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Locations of BJ Cafes, Hot Toc's, Blow 'and' Go's.
Lets use this thread as a guide to where to find the BJ Cafes, Hot Toc's etc.
Since there was only a general thread which users had to sift through inorder to find what they were interested in, Lets use this one to make it easier to sort through and find what you are looking for.
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Tuan Tam Blow & Go
Located at 84 Nguyen Phi Khanh far end of dist #1 200k and 200k, was 100k and 100k till this year. Still well worth it.
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Re: Locations of BJ Cafes, Hot Toc's, Blow 'and' Go's
[QUOTE=Mik Hcmc;1189908]Lets use this thread as a guide to where to find the BJ Cafes, Hot Toc's etc.[/QUOTE]Thanks Mik, excellent idea.
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[QUOTE=D Cups;1190310][Yes, Thanks, MH. When you say far end of D1, which direction, please? Can I walk there from Tao Dan Park? I don't see this street on my map. Thanks. QUOTE=NewTodd; 1190147]Thanks Mik, excellent idea.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]D-cups, throw out your map. Type "84 Nguyen Phi Khanh" into google maps. You can find it in 2 seconds.
You can walk to NPK from Le Van Tam Park, Dakao Market, or Tan Dinh Church.
Don't bother thanking me. Let's keep this thread on topic. The idea is not having to sift through a lot of stuff to find the addresses.
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Don't be a sucker!
[QUOTE=Dragonfly22;1190131]Located at 84 Nguyen Phi Khanh far end of dist #1 200k and 200k, was 100k and 100k till this year. Still well worth it.[/QUOTE]Do not pay 400k for a be&g. I've been going to these places for a long time now and recently they have been pushing harder but if you state the price 200k in Vietnamese when you walk in, they will honor the price. If you don't look like you know what you're talking about they may continue to push you but look as if you're going to walk out and they will quickly pull you back in. From then on just quote the price 200k as you walk in and you'll never have a problem. That's not saying you can't tip a little extra sometimes. If the girl does a great job, like slow sexy gf feel or licks ass, then by all means pay her a little extra (50k to 100k) but make sure they work for it.
As soon as you set 300k or 400k as the norm, they will push higher. If you look like a sucker, they will push for as much as they think they can get from you.
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[QUOTE=Carl Raze; 1193000]Do not pay 400k for a be&g. I've been going to these places for a long time now and recently they have been pushing harder but if you state the price 200k in Vietnamese when you walk in, they will honor the price. If you don't look like you know what you're talking about they may continue to push you but look as if you're going to walk out and they will quickly pull you back in. From then on just quote the price 200k as you walk in and you'll never have a problem. That's not saying you can't tip a little extra sometimes. If the girl does a great job, like slow sexy gf feel or licks ass, then by all means pay her a little extra (50k to 100k) but make sure they work for it.
As soon as you set 300k or 400k as the norm, they will push higher. If you look like a sucker, they will push for as much as they think they can get from you.[/QUOTE]Does that mean if you do not speak Vietnamese, you're stuck with paying 400K? Or is it hit and miss?
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Hi
Here's what I did the other day at 84 Nguyen Phi Khanh.
I got dropped off in front and a guy opened a door for me and wanted to get me in.
"Sir, come get blow job"
I asked how much?
He said,"$400k"
I said,"No, I come here before, $100k for massage"
He said,"Ok ok"
After the deed, on the way out.
I give my girl $100k as tip, and $100k to the mamasan and walk out.
She starts yelling at me,"NO, MORE MONEY. 400k"
I go,"No, that man said $100k"
He tells her "Oh he knows the real price" (I can understand vietnamese).
But basically the secret is to say the price BEFOREHAND. If they won't bulge, WALK AWAY. They will cave in.
If you get a blow job without talking prices, then they're going to fuck you over.
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i stopped by 110 dbp the other night, kinda late, around 8pm or so. the girl i got was a bit older, maybe early 30s long curly hair. not much of a looker maybe 6/10. but wow, did she give great service. a real gf experience, great massage in the chair, then when in the "room", she took her time to clean me up all over. she licked all over my body front and back! great blow skills, excellent speed control (fast and slow). its been a long time since i've had this kinda service at 110. or any bng shop. i will definitely see her again.
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[QUOTE=Tiger 888; 1226151]Or 4000 Dong by Bus no. 93 from Pham Ngu Lao Bus station. Get off after the bridge and walk a few meters.
On the way back I haven't found where the bus stops on the opposite site, as it seems impossible to cross there.[/QUOTE]Good info on taking the public bus to Ben Ny's B&G from Ben Thanh's bus station on Pham Ngu Lao. Didn't see a bus stop on the opposite side (yup, it takes nerves of steel to cross the busy side streets full of fast traveling moto-bikes; since there are no breaks, you have to walk and hope the moto-bikes avoid you). Info: the 93 bus going the opposite direction will cross the bridge and turn left at the circle; I guess you can get the bus there.
Hot Tocs near the corner of Nguyen Thi Thap and Le Van Huong: People have posted about it previously. Observed several on both streets. You can take public bus 139 (if you're staying in Pham Ngu Lao, walk up De Tham, pass Bui Vien, and then cross the major street of Than Hung Bao to take the bus on the bus station on that street in order to go left; the Vietnamese drive on the "right" side of the street). The bus will go on Le Van Huong and turn turn on Nguyen Thi Thap. As soon as you get off on Nguyen Thi Thap, there is a hot toc. Observed just 2 girls there. By means of sign language, the girl indicated she will take off her dress and do something to my penis. But it seems they wanted 400K dong total. Is local price less? Decided to go to Benny's later because there are many more girls there (maybe 20?) , and the service is fabulous with a no hassle 220K dong pricing policy (I've been giving an extra 50K or 100K dong tip; sorry, I'm "spoiling" the market for giving extra tips, but did I say the service is great:)).
Taxi info to NTT / LVH Quan 7: "They" got me again; no matter how hard I try, it seems the scammers get me at least once per trip. For some taxi drivers, you need to tell them the exact address.
I told the taxi driver to take me to Nguyen Thi Thap, and I told him I knew where to stop. But Nguyen Thi Thap is a long street, so he took me to the far end of NTT instead of the closer side. Taxi came out to 97K dong instead of 57K dong (from Pham Ngu Lao).
You can tell the taxi driver to take you to the corner of Nguyen Thi Thap and Le Van Huong.
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Benny's
Hit Benny's 3 times on my recent HCMC visit. No hassles and easy to find. All in all a better experience than NPK st #84 only reason being it's closer to where I stay and no price haggling. Some girls better than others.
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Clarification Of Locations
There are a lot (too many I feel) of confusing abbreviations in the Ho Chi Minh section. I arrived yesterday and worked things out but it took a while. Here is a concise report:
NPK = Nguyen Ph Khanh Street.
HBT = Hai Ba Trung Street.
BV = Ba Vi Street.
DBP = Dien Bien Phu Street.
Ba Vi is in the Korean Area near the airport. This area on the map is called Tan Binh District (this is NOT district 10. It is another area completely). This area I think is the best area for mongering in Ho Chi Minh although I realise that everyones take will be different. In my experience the action is not really on Ba Vi street itself but rather in the next parrallel street along. Can't recall the name but begins with a Q. Look for barber shops with forsted windows and I would suggest the best time to arrive is 2pm.
All of the above locations can be found on as follows:
Get your taxi into town from the Vinasun counter in the arrivals area and ask for their Vinasun City Map. The map isn't marked in rows and columns but assume each fold rectangle to be in columns of A to G aand the rows to be from 1 to 3.
NPK = F2 (actually right on the fold between column E and F)
HBT = The area near the Carvelle Hotel at F2 (bottom right hand corner of that rectangle)
BV = C1 (bottom centre of that rectangle)
DBP = Long Street and didn't go to Benny V's so don't know where on this map it is.
Hope this helps.
BB
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[QUOTE=Bowerboy; 1227993]There are a lot (too many I feel) of confusing abbreviations in the Ho Chi Minh section. I arrived yesterday and worked things out but it took a while. Here is a concise report:
NPK = Nguyen Ph Khanh Street.
HBT = Hai Ba Trung Street.
BV = Ba Vi Street.
DBP = Dien Bien Phu Street.
Ba Vi is in the Korean Area near the airport. This area on the map is called Tan Binh District (this is NOT district 10. It is another area completely). This area I think is the best area for mongering in Ho Chi Minh although I realise that everyones take will be different. In my experience the action is not really on Ba Vi street itself but rather in the next parrallel street along. Can't recall the name but begins with a Q. Look for barber shops with forsted windows and I would suggest the best time to arrive is 2pm.
BB[/QUOTE]The street parrallel to Ba Vi is Giai Phong
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Need some help to find Mai from Smiley's Bar
[QUOTE=Mik Hcmc; 1189908]Lets use this thread as a guide to where to find the BJ Cafes, Hot Toc's etc.
Since there was only a general thread which users had to sift through inorder to find what they were interested in, Lets use this one to make it easier to sort through and find what you are looking for.[/QUOTE]Hi Everyone I am new here and found some photos and posts from D Cups about this girl Mai from Smiley's Bar. She has the most amazing body I have ever seen. Just got to have it. I am travelling to Ho Chi Minh next month.
Has anyone seen her lately, is she still working at Smiley's?
Maybe not the right place to post this message but time is running out and I need some professional help from those who know.
Thanks so much!
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Location of Benny's
[QUOTE=Dragonfly22;1227393]Hit Benny's 3 times on my recent HCMC visit. No hassles and easy to find. All in all a better experience than NPK st #84 only reason being it's closer to where I stay and no price haggling. Some girls better than others.[/QUOTE]Hi,
Where is Benny's located?
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Address Ben Ny
[QUOTE=Snakey304; 1238007]Hi,
Where is Benny's located?[/QUOTE]110 Dien Bien Phu, on the right soon after the roundabout where Binh Thanh district begins.
You can't miss it, big gaudy flashing sign.
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Ben ny
[QUOTE=Mcpaul; 1241770]110 Dien Bien Phu, on the right soon after the roundabout where Binh Thanh district begins.
You can't miss it, big gaudy flashing sign.[/QUOTE]To Mcpaul,
I went there yesterday ask the vinasun taxi guy show the adress and he smile know where to go, there are about 8 girl
Avalible around 3 pm 220k for a ok BJ small room no massage is offer, also check out my tien they want 300k told them no and they drop to 250k so I just left, also check out Tan Dinh market area hot toc #84 Ngyuen Phi khanh 5 girl avalible 200k better attuide and service than Ben Ny I was the only customer around 5 pm the place is kind of hard to find.
Fast Eddie 48
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L6: She is usually there after 6 pm but not every day. I don't know when her days off are. If she's there, she'll take you to the 3rd lloor pool room, get on her knees and suck you like a hoover for $1M dong or less if you can negotiate. Expensive but incomparable boobs on a small frame. Probaby the biggest naturals in Vietnam. If she's not there go to 51 0r 91 on HBT. They have some busty ones, too.
Asia Rain, are you paying attention?
[QUOTE=LineSix; 1234202]Hi Everyone I am new here and found some photos and posts from D Cups about this girl Mai from Smiley's Bar. She has the most amazing body I have ever seen. Just got to have it. I am travelling to Ho Chi Minh next month.
Has anyone seen her lately, is she still working at Smiley's?
Maybe not the right place to post this message but time is running out and I need some professional help from those who know.
Thanks so much![/QUOTE]
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Hey Dragonfly,
Long time no see! Glad you are still on the circuit! Miss Ly at Benny's is my fave. Man, I would see her every day I am in HCM! Tried to get her to go to my hotel but no go.
Asia Rain, are you paying attention?
[QUOTE=Dragonfly22;1227393]Hit Benny's 3 times on my recent HCMC visit. No hassles and easy to find. All in all a better experience than NPK st #84 only reason being it's closer to where I stay and no price haggling. Some girls better than others.[/QUOTE]
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Is this still actual
I saved the following message time ago and I'm not able to find it anymore in the board.
<<267 Thi Tap has by far been the best value for the money. The place is very clean. Private areas (as private as
You would expect) , and great service. Four girls on the couches when I got in, all 7s and 8s. The price was
$200k. No tipping is required, or maybe even expected. I will be back!
Does anyone know if it's still actual, it seems to be the B&G nearest to the airport and I have a tight connection.
Otherwise any suggestion about B&G near to the airport?
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There are two 110 Dien Bien Phu's, only one is Bennies
Ben Nie's Hot Toc is at 110 Dien Bien Phu, but Dien Bien Phu's numbers start from zero and increase in both directions from the roundabout that is next to the river channel, so there are two 110's, one on each side of the roundabout (I guess one is east the other west, or north or south, but it isn't marked any differently). If you end up at the 110 that is a restaurant (that is where my taxi driver dropped me) , you have to keep going around the roundabout, over the river channel, about two more blocks to Bennies which is clearly marked with lit signage. About 10 storefronts away is My Tien, another Hot Toc I will try tomorrow.
As has been described, the girls at Bennies are all pretty cute, solid 7's or 8's. I asked to pick my gal which may not be standard procedure but they didn't care. The gal I picked thought it was funny that I picked her. She was a fun loving, spirited 25 whyear old with a nice body and ample rack. The customers are put in a room with a row of recliners, you hang out with your gal (along with all the other waiting customers) , until a private (if you can call it that) room opens up, you go in, she pulls down your pants and hers, pops her tits out of her blouse, and then gives you a nice oral massage of your torso finishing with a BBBJ. You are allowed to handle the exposed merchandise. At least that's the way it happened with me. My first $10 assembly line Hot Toc BJ and I loved it. 120, 000 admission. 100, 000 to the girl (she will whine for more but that is apparently the standard tip. I Gave mine an extra 20, 000 because she had a good attitude.
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My tien hot toc
[QUOTE=Mantid; 1250290]Ben Nie's Hot Toc is at 110 Dien Bien Phu, but Dien Bien Phu's numbers start from zero and increase in both directions from the roundabout that is next to the river channel, so there are two 110's, one on each side of the roundabout (I guess one is east the other west, or north or south, but it isn't marked any differently). If you end up at the 110 that is a restaurant (that is where my taxi driver dropped me) , you have to keep going around the roundabout, over the river channel, about two more blocks to Bennies which is clearly marked with lit signage. About 10 storefronts away is My Tien, another Hot Toc I will try tomorrow.
As has been described, the girls at Bennies are all pretty cute, solid 7's or 8's. I asked to pick my gal which may not be standard procedure but they didn't care. The gal I picked thought it was funny that I picked her. She was a fun loving, spirited 25 whyear old with a nice body and ample rack. The customers are put in a room with a row of recliners, you hang out with your gal (along with all the other waiting customers) , until a private (if you can call it that) room opens up, you go in, she pulls down your pants and hers, pops her tits out of her blouse, and then gives you a nice oral massage of your torso finishing with a BBBJ. You are allowed to handle the exposed merchandise. At least that's the way it happened with me. My first $10 assembly line Hot Toc BJ and I loved it. 120, 000 admission. 100, 000 to the girl (she will whine for more but that is apparently the standard tip. I Gave mine an extra 20, 000 because she had a good attitude.[/QUOTE]To Mantid,
I did check out MyTien first the manager have a bad attuide and the girl is not that pretty ask for 250, 000 and I go over to Ben nye not that the manager make me feel welcome either but the girl look a little better but service is not that good it is a quicky BJ place but for 10 USD I should not complain too much, I am just get spoil by all the 30 min BBBJ and cim and AR in China sauna in a large bed and shower table you guy in HMC don't know what you are missing.
Fast Eddie 48
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My Tien and Ben Nie's
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1250753]To Mantid,
I did check out MyTien first the manager have a bad attuide and the girl is not that pretty ask for 250, 000 and I go over to Ben nye not that the manager make me feel welcome either but the girl look a little better but service is not that good it is a quicky BJ place but for 10 USD I should not complain too much, I am just get spoil by all the 30 min BBBJ and cim and AR in China sauna in a large bed and shower table you guy in HMC don't know what you are missing.
Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]Sorry you had a bad experience at both places. They only charged me 150, 000 at MyTien and 125, 000 (as I recall) at Bennies. I chose a very attractive girl at My Tien (there were others who looked pretty good too) who gave a nice 20 minute or so BBBJ and lots of hugging. This first time during the day there were at least a dozen girls to choose from. Went again at night and there were not so many girls but the gal I used before was there and had another session with her. Paid her 200, 000K which may be high but it was only a few dollars extra for me and she was very sweet. The gal at Ben Nie's was quite attractive and will be going back there again today for another session. Not sure why you were charged more but insist on 150K at My Tien if you go back.
For $10. $15 I was happy with the experience although I am sure other cities have other and maybe better services.
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Please excuse the NOOBISH question!
I'm a old hand at Thailand, but I'll be visiting VN later this year for the first time.
Sorry for asking such a simple question, but what exactly is a "Hot Toc"? Does it differ from a BJ Cafe or B&G?
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[QUOTE=Naughty; 1253283]I'm a old hand at Thailand, but I'll be visiting VN later this year for the first time.
Sorry for asking such a simple question, but what exactly is a "Hot Toc"? Does it differ from a BJ Cafe or B&G?[/QUOTE]A hot toc is a hair salon; cafe om is the same as BJ cafe is the same as B&G, which is to say that they're cafes not hair salons. It's only certain hot tocs that perform that service by the way.
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[QUOTE=Wendella;1254380]A hot toc is a hair salon; cafe om is the same as BJ cafe is the same as B&G, which is to say that they're cafes not hair salons. It's only certain hot tocs that perform that service by the way.[/QUOTE]Your reply is by no means inaccurate, though may be a little confusing for a newcomer to Vietnam, Wendella.
'Hot Toc' simply means 'hair salon' in Vietnamese. 'Toc' = 'hair' (on one's head). Thing is, there are many varieties of hair salons in HCMC and in Vietnam in general. Straight up and real hair salons serving male and female clientele, eye-candy hair salons which provide a bit of a cocktease to a largely male clientele but no hanky-panky on premises, salons that provide a manual release, salons which provide an oral release (B&G) , and salons that are essentially a bordello.
While the local Vietnamese and the long term foreign residents in HCMC such as Wendella and myself can tell the difference between these salons by just looking at the storefront, short term visitors to HCMC will likely not, nor likely stray beyond the boundaries of District 1 and 3. As such, they are (mainly) limited to the first 2 varieties.
As for the more 'naughty' establishments masquerading as hair salons, they have all been talked about on this board. For example, B&Gs in Binh Thanh District and in District 7, Bordellos in Tan Binh District near the airport. Mind you, in Vietnam hair salons of all colours of the rainbow are available, just have to know what you're in the mood for at any given time and patronize accordingly.
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Thanks!
Thanks for the clarification. And thanks to all for all the info posted here over the years. I'll return the favor by posting my experiences this fall.
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Hot tocs
Has anyone tried the 2 hot tocs over in Q10 on Su Van Hanh, couple of blocks from 3/2 towards the small hospital? I'll be back in Dec. And its right up the street from my wife's house.
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Vinh Tu, Dist2
Out and about on my moto yesterday afternoon, was along Tran Nao in the An Kanh part of dist 2 (that's south of the highway across the Saigon bridge)
Spotted Vinh Tu, one of those hot tocs that's not open to the street with towels hanging to dry outside- had to stop for a look.
Left the moto outside and went in. No customers so the staff were dozing- they even have a barber in case you really want a haircut.
3 or 4 honeys in tight blue tops and short skirts.
"Massage?" No eengleesh and my Viet doesn't go much beyond mo hai ba, ba ba ba but we made ourselves understood. 250k.
Then it was in the back with my girl- probably a 6- couldn't get her name but she was quite a GFE.
Nice playful wash down with a cloth then to business with her tits out and knickers round her ankles. Lots of teasing and playing- she got wet pretty quickly on my finger, all the time doing a great job on the little man.
Best bit was that she kept sucking or 3 or 4minutes after I blew, rocking on my finger until her happy ending. No expectorating so there's only one place my goodness ended up- her daily dose of vitamin E.
Then more GFE before a quick cleanup.
250k, great attitude made up for the shabby shop.
On my way out 3 old guys are now waiting for a haircut- don't thnk many foreigners have been in there before from their reaction.
Must check out a few more of these hot tocs with the closed fronts- there must be some gems in some pretty convenient locations.
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[QUOTE=B Bardill;1256134]Has anyone tried the 2 hot tocs over in Q10 on Su Van Hanh, couple of blocks from 3/2 towards the small hospital? I'll be back in Dec. And its right up the street from my wife's house.[/QUOTE]I drove up and down Su Van Hanh today looking for any "Hot Tocs" and only found standard none BnG shops. There weren't any females in view, just guys getting haircuts, which leads me to believe there isn't any fun there. Well at least not for me. Haha.
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District 10
They all with give a rub and tug of varying quality. There are loads there and a few massage places.
No FS buy BJ and HJ.
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Nguyen thi that
had my first visit to be&g on ntt last night. maybe 5-6 places to go settled on 257 i think was the address on the right heading out of town. nice selection of girls young and cute. 300k firm for a foreigner. what i liked was no negotiating with the gitl. 300k up front. here you strip down to shorts. a / see she removes almost everything. a solid 6-7 and 19yo. wicked hot body with firm tits and hard nipples. great smile too btw. took instruction well, slow down, speed up. no cim but the service was excellent. would go back. full exploration inside and out. the hot toc was very clean and well kept.
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[QUOTE=Tra Zmo; 1270741]Out and about on my moto yesterday afternoon, was along Tran Nao in the An Kanh part of dist 2 (that's south of the highway across the Saigon bridge)
Spotted Vinh Tu, one of those hot tocs that's not open to the street with towels hanging to dry outside- had to stop for a look.[/QUOTE]Good find, anywhere distinctive that it is near? I've looked a couple of times and can't see the wood for the trees.
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[QUOTE=Jon Does;1275741]Good find, anywhere distinctive that it is near? I've looked a couple of times and can't see the wood for the trees.[/QUOTE]Heading north (towards the highway / Metro) it's maybe 200m past the Yamaha store.
I'm travelling this week- will be more specific next week.
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[QUOTE=Tra Zmo; 1275985]Heading north (towards the highway / Metro) it's maybe 200m past the Yamaha store.
I'm travelling this week- will be more specific next week.[/QUOTE]Cheers. Should be able to find it from there.
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[QUOTE=Jon Does;1275741]Good find, anywhere distinctive that it is near? I've looked a couple of times and can't see the wood for the trees.[/QUOTE]It's at 35b Tran Nao, P Binh An, Q2.
As I said it's a bit shabby but her continued sucking and swallowing until she'd been diddled enough was novel!
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[QUOTE=Tra Zmo; 1280184]It's at 35b Tran Nao, P Binh An, Q2.
As I said it's a bit shabby but her continued sucking and swallowing until she'd been diddled enough was novel![/QUOTE]Yep no worries found it.
Looks less shabby in evening when lit up.
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Thanks for the info
[QUOTE=Mantid; 1250290]Ben Nie's Hot Toc is at 110 Dien Bien Phu, but Dien Bien Phu's numbers start from zero and increase in both directions from the roundabout that is next to the river channel, so there are two 110's, one on each side of the roundabout (I guess one is east the other west, or north or south, but it isn't marked any differently). If you end up at the 110 that is a restaurant (that is where my taxi driver dropped me) , you have to keep going around the roundabout, over the river channel, about two more blocks to Bennies which is clearly marked with lit signage. About 10 storefronts away is My Tien, another Hot Toc I will try tomorrow.
As has been described, the girls at Bennies are all pretty cute, solid 7's or 8's. I asked to pick my gal which may not be standard procedure but they didn't care. The gal I picked thought it was funny that I picked her. She was a fun loving, spirited 25 whyear old with a nice body and ample rack. The customers are put in a room with a row of recliners, you hang out with your gal (along with all the other waiting customers) , until a private (if you can call it that) room opens up, you go in, she pulls down your pants and hers, pops her tits out of her blouse, and then gives you a nice oral massage of your torso finishing with a BBBJ. You are allowed to handle the exposed merchandise. At least that's the way it happened with me. My first $10 assembly line Hot Toc BJ and I loved it. 120, 000 admission. 100, 000 to the girl (she will whine for more but that is apparently the standard tip. I Gave mine an extra 20, 000 because she had a good attitude.[/QUOTE]I was on the lookout for some cheap thrills, your note on there being 2 110s was helpful, because at first the cab driver took me there, I told him to take me to the other location, and I hoped the driver understood my sign language and English. Anyway the receptionist at counter was pretty straight forward 300K and no negotiation, which was not good for me, because I didn't want to spoil the market for locals, so I acted to walk off and I was called back for 220K, as if I knew the price. (which I knew thanks to the forum members)
I chose a plump girl, with ample ass and nice big tits, even though the stomach was a bit bulging.
Had a nice quickie between 2 business meets.
Thank you guys, this thread is great
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Line Ups
Have never gotten a lineup per se at any of the BJ venues I've frequented. Usually there's a girl waiting to take you by the arm and lead you upstairs. The next girl in line I guess. Now I have a different tack. I brush past her and start looking. This infuriates the supposed next girl in line but I'm not settling for a 4-5 when there are 7-8 to be had. No 9-10s in these places as they can usually get anything they want on their looks anyway. Have had some really good experiences at Ben Nies and on NPK. Some of these girls have great skills. Not all allow inside exploration but most do. Out on NTT the little honey was so sweet until it was time to get down to business and that she did. I like the up front business of these BJ establishments. Hassle free and good service.
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Great post, more info.
[QUOTE=Raverboy; 1254598]Your reply is by no means inaccurate, though may be a little confusing for a newcomer to Vietnam, Wendella.
'Hot Toc' simply means 'hair salon' in Vietnamese. 'Toc' = 'hair' (on one's head). Thing is, there are many varieties of hair salons in HCMC and in Vietnam in general. Straight up and real hair salons serving male and female clientele, eye-candy hair salons which provide a bit of a cocktease to a largely male clientele but no hanky-panky on premises, salons that provide a manual release, salons which provide an oral release (B&G) , and salons that are essentially a bordello.
While the local Vietnamese and the long term foreign residents in HCMC such as Wendella and myself can tell the difference between these salons by just looking at the storefront, short term visitors to HCMC will likely not, nor likely stray beyond the boundaries of District 1 and 3. As such, they are (mainly) limited to the first 2 varieties.
As for the more 'naughty' establishments masquerading as hair salons, they have all been talked about on this board. For example, B&Gs in Binh Thanh District and in District 7, Bordellos in Tan Binh District near the airport. Mind you, in Vietnam hair salons of all colours of the rainbow are available, just have to know what you're in the mood for at any given time and patronize accordingly.[/QUOTE]This is a great and helpful post. Can you expand the detail on how to recognise the three levels? You said as a local or expat local you can tell. Can you give a guide to how to tell the different levels from the storefronts, for example.
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Hair salon
[QUOTE=Bb Creampie;1284559]I'm new to Saigon. I'm staying in D1 and there are plenty of hair wash joints with gorgeous girls just sitting around near the door. I'm guessing that these are more than meets the eye, but where to start with prices and negotiations? Would definitely love to know more.[/QUOTE]To Bb.
Most of this hair salon near Ben-Thanh market only offer hair cut and massage no FS, yes most o the girl are hot and they lure you inside make you think there is a happy ending, I don't why you don't go in and ask yourself are you too scare to do this yourself.
Fast Eddie 48
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[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1284849]To Bb.
Most of this hair salon near Ben-Thanh market only offer hair cut and massage no FS, yes most o the girl are hot and they lure you inside make you think there is a happy ending, I don't why you don't go in and ask yourself are you too scare to do this yourself.
Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]I went to Benny's instead. Arrived at 110 DBP Street and it was a restaurant. Two skeezy guys sitting outside yelled something to the taxi something which probably translated to,"drive this dirty fuck to the suck shop down the street, this is a restaurant damn it!"
When I arrived half the working girls were sleeping. Picked the one who looked the most awake and we went off to a dingy little room. Some grimy guy next to my stall, sounded German, was getting his pipe sucked like a champ. Finally he finished and then I heard him mumble something like,"no baby, Benny's only one week one time". I was wondering if it was one of you guys, was very tempted to knock on the divider.
The roundtrip taxi fare from my hotel cost the same as the blowjob. Would like to find some place closer but definitely a great deal for the money.
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First trip to Saigon
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1284849]To Bb.
Most of this hair salon near Ben-Thanh market only offer hair cut and massage no FS, yes most o the girl are hot and they lure you inside make you think there is a happy ending, I don't why you don't go in and ask yourself are you too scare to do this yourself.
Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]Hi guys. This is my first trip to Saigon and I am going alone. Will be there from 15th to 18th June. I am a local Malaysian Indian. Please advise me. I will staying in Dist. 1 at Tan Hai Lxxx 3 hotel.
Thanks in advance
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[QUOTE=Bb Creampie;1284993]I went to Benny's instead. Arrived at 110 DBP Street and it was a restaurant. Two skeezy guys sitting outside yelled something to the taxi something which probably translated to,"drive this dirty fuck to the suck shop down the street, this is a restaurant damn it!"[/QUOTE]Wrong Ward. If a street continues through another ward then the numbers will start again, Hense you need not only the number, street name and district but also the ward.
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Good area
[QUOTE=Venu Gopal; 1285007]Hi guys. This is my first trip to Saigon and I am going alone. Will be there from 15th to 18th June. I am a local Malaysian Indian. Please advise me. I will staying in Dist. 1 at Tan Hai Lxxx 3 hotel.
Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]To Venu,
This hotel is at HBT dist one where all the bar at there are pimp on the st at night offer girl for ST for 40 USD, the girl at the HBT bar will charge you 80 USD for ST, I think this hotel is GF, I just spend a few days in KL mongering is so expensive there vietnam is much cheaper if you know where to go, have the taxi driver take you to Korean dist massage place near the airport and get FS there.
Fast Eddie 48
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Hi
[QUOTE=Bb Creampie;1284559]I'm new to Saigon. I'm staying in D1 and there are plenty of hair wash joints with gorgeous girls just sitting around near the door. I'm guessing that these are more than meets the eye, but where to start with prices and negotiations? Would definitely love to know more.[/QUOTE]Most of hair salon in D1 are too expensive. Nowadays, local Saigonese just online looking for girls.
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[QUOTE=Bb Creampie; 1284993]I went to Benny's instead. Arrived at 110 DBP Street and it was a restaurant. Two skeezy guys sitting outside yelled something to the taxi something which probably translated to,"drive this dirty fuck to the suck shop down the street, this is a restaurant damn it!"
When I arrived half the working girls were sleeping. Picked the one who looked the most awake and we went off to a dingy little room. Some grimy guy next to my stall, sounded German, was getting his pipe sucked like a champ. Finally he finished and then I heard him mumble something like,"no baby, Benny's only one week one time". I was wondering if it was one of you guys, was very tempted to knock on the divider.
The roundtrip taxi fare from my hotel cost the same as the blowjob. Would like to find some place closer but definitely a great deal for the money.[/QUOTE]If you want to save the taxi fare, bus no. 95 runs from Pham Ngu Lao right to the door. Ring the bell 200-300m after crossing the bridge.
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[QUOTE=Rhinex;1287141]Nowadays, local Saigonese just online looking for girls.[/QUOTE]Be nice to find some of those sites occasionally.
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[QUOTE=Jon Guoren;1284503]This is a great and helpful post. Can you expand the detail on how to recognise the three levels? You said as a local or expat local you can tell. Can you give a guide to how to tell the different levels from the storefronts, for example.[/QUOTE]Maybe Wendella or Raverboy [or Tiger] can create a google map that pin points a couple of the more frequented venues. Or is there concern that LE monitors ISG?
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[QUOTE=Traveler1234;1287523]Maybe Wendella or Raverboy [or Tiger] can create a google map that pin points a couple of the more frequented venues. Or is there concern that LE monitors ISG?[/QUOTE]I wouldn't want to see that in public. In Vietnam things are tolerated to a certain point. Too much publicity is definitely going beyond.
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Xe Buyt (bus) to "Benny's".20 cents from the central bus station or Pasteur
[QUOTE=Tiger 888;1287303]If you want to save the taxi fare, bus no. 95 runs from Pham Ngu Lao right to the door. Ring the bell 200-300m after crossing the bridge.[/QUOTE]That would be the #93 bus, not the #95.
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[QUOTE=Clixtox;1287839]That would be the #93 bus, not the #95.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the correction. I wrote that out of (wrong) memory, as I am not in Saigon. The PNL Bus-station has only one bus with a 9x number though.
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84 Nguyen Phi Khan Street
After having a session at My Tien, walked to this place. Four women, two OK. Based on previous post, signed
200M dong. She signed 300M dong. I again signed 200M dong, to which she said no and allowed me to walk out.
Apparently, the price is no longer 200M dong (at least for me).
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84 npk
After the first couple of times going to this place. Paying 100k to the house and 100k to the girl when finished, on my 3rd or 4th trip the mama quotes $20 dollar to me. I walked. Didn't go back for a year. When I returned I paid the usual 100k and 100k The best thing to do is walk. That sends a message. The other places nearby 84 NPK are all HJ places and not BJ places. I went inot one by mistake afew times. So now I frequent Ben Ny or a place out on NTT.
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[QUOTE=Jimmy Boy 99; 1290004]After having a session at My Tien, walked to this place. Four women, two OK. Based on previous post, signed
200M dong. She signed 300M dong. I again signed 200M dong, to which she said no and allowed me to walk out.
Apparently, the price is no longer 200M dong (at least for me).[/QUOTE]We should be a little more precise what we talk about. I believe you mean "k" instead of "M".
200M Dong are about 10k US$.
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[QUOTE=Tiger 888; 1290519]We should be a little more precise what we talk about. I believe you mean "k" instead of "M".
200M Dong are about 10k US$.[/QUOTE]K means thousand only when referencing salary. M means thousand in non-salary contexts.
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Tips at Ben Ny Hot Toc
Have gone twice to Ben Ny. Both times the girls were not happy with 120M dong (the last one said not to choose her again because the tip was too low). I thought the tip for the girl was established at 100M dong, so 120M dong should have been fine. Has it changed? If so, what is the new tip amount?
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[QUOTE=Jimmy Boy 99;1290556]K means thousand only when referencing salary. M means thousand in non-salary contexts.[/QUOTE]Which part of the world does that apply to?
[QUOTE=Jimmy Boy 99;1290558]Have gone twice to Ben Ny. Both times the girls were not happy with 120M dong (the last one said not to choose her again because the tip was too low). I thought the tip for the girl was established at 100M dong, so 120M dong should have been fine. Has it changed? If so, what is the new tip amount?[/QUOTE]Well, inflation runs and prices adapt. I paid 150k last time, she demanded 200k but didn't complain long as I stood strong. Would be nice to get regular updates on the pricing structure.
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Directions to My Tien and Ben Ny
Ben Ny and My Tien are within 100 feet of each other at 90 and 110 Dien Bien Phu in the Bihn Thanh District (coming to Dien Bien Phu from the south, you make a right and cross the river. They are about 300 meters after you cross the river on your right). You should be able to get a moto driver to take you there for 25M dong. However, if you don't want to hassle with them (and also travel more safely) , the 93 bus (get on at the bus station on the other side of the roundabout from Ben Thanh market or at Pasteur on the north side of Le Loi) stops in from of My Tien after crossing the river (the first stop) and costs 4, 000 dong. The bus to return is across the street a little closer to the river crossing. The bus runs only until about 6:30PM. Bus #150 and #91 also stop there, but I don't know where to pick them up.
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K
Yeah okay a few observations on the use of k and its relationship to 1000, I remember the Y2K bug (year 2000 bug) that was supposed to shut down most of the worlds computer systems and there is the 30k service for your car. A kilogram is 1000 grams, a kilometre is 1000 metres, a kilowatt is 1000 watts and a kilobyte is 1000 bytes etc. In countries with the metric system you will find it refers to 1000. I think it has its origins in Greece!
BeNys pricing- I was in there the other day and the ticket was 120k. I went wih the girl and we did our thing, then it was tip time and she developed a sense of humour failure when I handed over 200k so I flicked her an extra 50k. She left the room to gargle etc and I heard a bit of dialogue then another girl opened the door where I was and said that everyone usually gives 400K. I seriously doubt the locals would be handing this amount of coin over. My girl came back into the room and asked me if I wanted a back massage (which means she could'nt have been too pissed off) which I said yes to, so it looks like they are used to getting a higher rate from foreigners.
Over and out.
Ef
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[QUOTE=Bb Creampie; 1290909]So I've been in and out of the SOS clinic because my cock has been dripping like a sink. I was diagnosed with clam and gonno. So in the past 3 weeks. Other that the 7 girls I bb'd from Go2Bar in Pham Ngu Lao, I got sucked off by 3 at Benny's. So I was dripping the most god awful bunch of cheese out of my cock. Just puss color yellow / green and it stunk like a dirty ass hole. Anyway, on the way to SOS for a shot of Rocephin, I stopped at Benny's. I picked the same girl that I think I got the clap from and I brought her in the room. This * sucked all the ooze pus out of my cock so good that I felt I didn't even need an injection. She even thought I came in her mouth! I blew a huge load of cum and infection into her mouth. She tried to swallow it all but started to gag. Maybe it was the taste of all that cheese coating her throat?
Always a thrill to re-infect.
Bareback creampie.[/QUOTE]You are a cretin, as well as a piece of shit, if you actually did this.
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[QUOTE=Efmeded;1291157]Yeah okay a few observations on the use of k and its relationship to 1000, I remember the Y2K bug (year 2000 bug) that was supposed to shut down most of the worlds computer systems and there is the 30k service for your car. A kilogram is 1000 grams, a kilometre is 1000 metres, a kilowatt is 1000 watts and a kilobyte is 1000 bytes etc. In countries with the metric system you will find it refers to 1000. I think it has its origins in Greece! Ef[/QUOTE]You are correct on its Greek origin (see.
[url]http://www.chemtutor.com/prex.htm[/url]
). K is generally used in measurements, while M is used for numbers (number of people, amount of currency, etc.).
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[QUOTE=Jimmy Boy 99;1291167]You are a cretin, as well as a piece of shit, if you actually did this.[/QUOTE]Maybe just a troll.
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[QUOTE=Efmeded;1291157]BeNys pricing- I was in there the other day and the ticket was 120k. I went wih the girl and we did our thing, then it was tip time and she developed a sense of humour failure when I handed over 200k so I flicked her an extra 50k. She left the room to gargle etc and I heard a bit of dialogue then another girl opened the door where I was and said that everyone usually gives 400K. I seriously doubt the locals would be handing this amount of coin over. My girl came back into the room and asked me if I wanted a back massage (which means she could'nt have been too pissed off) which I said yes to, so it looks like they are used to getting a higher rate from foreigners. Ef[/QUOTE]The third session I had at Ben Ny's, I asked the receptionist how much was the tip that was expected. She couldn't understand me. Of the 5 girls there on the couch. 4 were looking away, not wanting to be picked. I chose the only one who didn't look away. She was kind of mechanical about the service but did the job. When I gave her the 150M dong, she smiled and signaled 200M dong. I smiled back and shook my head no. She smiled back and said OK. Apparently. 150M dong is a sufficient tip from a Westerner.
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Be Nys tip
Have always given 100k tip and have had no complaints. Maybe a bit of growling but when you act like you know the price they don't complain. They will take what ever they can get, like anywhere else.
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[QUOTE=Bb Creampie; 1290909]So I've been in and out of the SOS clinic because my cock has been dripping like a sink. I was diagnosed with clam and gonno. So in the past 3 weeks. Other that the 7 girls I bb'd from Go2Bar in Pham Ngu Lao, I got sucked off by 3 at Benny's. So I was dripping the most god awful bunch of cheese out of my cock. Just puss color yellow / green and it stunk like a dirty ass hole. Anyway, on the way to SOS for a shot of Rocephin, I stopped at Benny's. I picked the same girl that I think I got the clap from and I brought her in the room. This * sucked all the ooze pus out of my cock so good that I felt I didn't even need an injection. She even thought I came in her mouth! I blew a huge load of cum and infection into her mouth. She tried to swallow it all but started to gag. Maybe it was the taste of all that cheese coating her throat?
Always a thrill to re-infect.
Bareback creampie.[/QUOTE]Truly one of the most disgusting posts I've ever seen on ISG.
" I picked the same girl I THINK I GOT THE CLAP FROM"
" other than the 7 girls I bb'd from go2 bar"
So you are judge and jury an inflict pain, and sickness, on others because you think I got the clap from her. Not that going bb with 7 others is much more indicative of picking up the clap than oral sex would be.
Pardon me while I go puke.
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" I picked the same girl I THINK I GOT THE CLAP FROM"
" other than the 7 girls I bb'd from go2 bar"
[/quote]
Pardon me while I go puke.[/QUOTE]There are many players, serial mongers, sex addicts ans those just wanting fun sex with hookers on this forum. Unfortunately there are also a fair few psychopaths. Being a psychopath doesn't mean you need necessarily to be locked up. Unfortunately again, for you, other members, society in general and in particular sex workers, I don't think you come under that category and you probably know this already, that's if you have any capacity for honesty whatever. Unless this was a sick joke to post your psychopathic tendencies I would suggest you as a human flesh search candidate for researchers and LE. People like you are what jail and serious sex offense programs ought to made for.
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Beware of drugs
[QUOTE=Whisper1;1228218]The street parrallel to Ba Vi is Giai Phong[/QUOTE]Be careful in this area, many ladies shoot heroin or smilar, that's why they are in the game. Couple of years back I met the most beautiful girl of Sgn there. Only after 3rd visit I saw the needle marks at the back of her legs, after enjoying a couple of BBFS this really got me (luckily nothing happened.) as nearly each and every drug addict is hiv+ thanks to sharing dirty needles. At least at that time it was illegal to distribute clean needles as this was considered as traffiking.
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[QUOTE=Uncle Ho Haha;1298738]Be careful in this area, many ladies shoot heroin or smilar, that's why they are in the game. Couple of years back I met the most beautiful girl of Sgn there. Only after 3rd visit I saw the needle marks at the back of her legs, after enjoying a couple of BBFS this really got me (luckily nothing happened.) as nearly each and every drug addict is hiv+ thanks to sharing dirty needles. At least at that time it was illegal to distribute clean needles as this was considered as traffiking.[/QUOTE]I think he was talking about massage places, different scene than what you are talking about, which seems to be street walkers. You're right though that incidence of drug use is high among that group (SW) , and dangerous therefore. Ones in massage places would be much lower risk. Of course STD's are always an issue with any working girl though. But SW are the highest risk group due to IV drug use plus high volume of customers. Generally, the more customers a girl has, the more risk of STD. Drug use adds more risk.
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[QUOTE=Wendella;1298862]I think he was talking about massage places, different scene than what you are talking about, which seems to be street walkers. You're right though that incidence of drug use is high among that group (SW) , and dangerous therefore. Ones in massage places would be much lower risk. Of course STD's are always an issue with any working girl though. But SW are the highest risk group due to IV drug use plus high volume of customers. Generally, the more customers a girl has, the more risk of STD. Drug use adds more risk.[/QUOTE]Hi, this thread is about Locations of BJ Cafes, Hot Toc's, Blow 'and' Go's.
Massage parlours is another thread.
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2 streets for fast success and good choice
hi, the best & fastest way to find a good barber, at least up to oct of last year :
1) dien bien phu, on way out of town : right side from 1st roundabout to 2nd one: some 10 shops. 2 or 3 on other side, the big shop is real barber. they all offer hj and bj, haircut only on special request, mostly there is one guy for this job, very cheap and not bad.
partly you go in a small cabin, partly in larger room with lots of action around you. these are very dark so no need to be embarrassed. if you are charming and persuasive or regular they will even agree to a quick fs for some 500k, don't push as if caught they are fired imdtly. nearly all will ask you to go to minihotel for boomboom so easy to get what you want.
covercharge in dbp seems to be a uniform 120k now. girls still accept 100k but bad vibes. 150 makes them more happy and doesn't ruin you. rep002 50k extra tip. 3 or 4 ladies for this special treat possible, no extra cover charge, only each 50k, they come, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] and go.
2) further down to 2nd roundabout, left into soviet nghe tinh. 1st real crossing left (ignore the very small lanes) , again 1st real left you are in dinh bo linh. left side again some 10 barbers, easy to spot as lots of very nice ladies in very short dress in front area. i went a few times for real back massage and fun without p4p, massage was 60-100k for 30 minutes + tip for the lady 20-50 made them happy enough to be welcomed back. small rooms with a few beds. only viets around who get excited when you come in, seems very few foreigners go there. didn't try anything, but bj shud be poss. all girls avbl to take out, they know small hotels around. didn't check prices as i was regular customer at 2 shops in dbp, was easier there and fs with real gfe avbl at that time some 5 years ago for 250k. many girls where excited to try a real sausage instead of small noodle so quite a few of them had fun too.
in dbl many looked great, dbp less for the eye unless you could choose from line up, always 1 or 2 gems avbl, but nearly all gave great service so i even accepted the 1st in line if i did not have special "friend" there.
3) there are another 1000 rep001tered around town. best is to rent a small motorbike and go around. just stop, look and by surprised. normaly easy to recognize : if there is more than 1 man working: good for a real & cheap trim. there is 1 man and lots of ladies: good for play, especially if all start to giggle when you enter. most places are viet only so you are the little extra. if not sure just ask for a massage. if no p4p- place this will cost some 60-100k + tip and most often you will get a decent head- & shoulder- rub and have the bonus to get a surprise every now and than for some extra tip.
a few years ago of course all of this was illegal too but the boys in green got a cut so closed the eyes. now things changed, the mammasans are very afraid of fs at their premises, le seems to be much more caring now.
by the way : 15 years ago every nihgt 100-150 ladies lined up on downtown part of ng thi minh khai in the dark. 50% real lookers. the st- hotel most of them choose was very next to a local police station, couples in and out like in a bee- hive but police never saw anything. only after long time they found out, by chance a very high ranking officer was caught in the raid, the only way to get rid of him. he lost his ranks, his daughter hanged herself. tiv.
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[QUOTE=Uncle Ho Haha; 1298871]Hi, this thread is about Locations of BJ Cafes, Hot Toc's, Blow 'and' Go's.
Massage parlours is another thread.[/QUOTE]True, but Whisper1 was replying about Ba Vi, Giai Phong and streets in that area, answering Bowerboy who was asking about locations in the HCMC section in general, not just this thread. Pretty sure Ba Vi/Giai Phong doesn't have bj cafes or blow'n'go's, but do have lots of massage places, which is what it's famous for. There's always been SW on Hoang Van Thu near there. But what type was the girl that you were talking about, the one with the needlemarks? And from which street?
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Currency Absurdity?
[QUOTE=Jimmy Boy 99;1291506]The third session I had at Ben Ny's, I asked the receptionist how much was the tip that was expected. She couldn't understand me. Of the 5 girls there on the couch. 4 were looking away, not wanting to be picked. I chose the only one who didn't look away. She was kind of mechanical about the service but did the job. When I gave her the 150M dong, she smiled and signaled 200M dong. I smiled back and shook my head no. She smiled back and said OK. Apparently. 150M dong is a sufficient tip from a Westerner.[/QUOTE]Are we talking 150M dong or VND 1. 5 million or even, VND 150. 000?
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Hoc Toc in Binh Thanh / District1
Gents,
I will be in HCMC for the first time in some weeks and do not speak any Vietnamese.
Unfortunately I am on a business trip with some (ugly female) colleagues and as such do not have extensive time to monger around. Need to sneak out during day for an hour or so.
We are staying in Binh Thanh / District 1.
Therefore the question is: Are there any Hoc Tocs close by, preferably walking distance?
If so, what is the procedure? I am used to massage parlors but never actually visited a hot Toc.
What do I need to say to get a decent BBJ with CIM?
I understand that damage for that is around 150 + 50k tip? Is that correct?
Thanks.
Hank
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[QUOTE=Bataviaboyo;1299749]Are we talking 150M dong or VND 1. 5 million or even, VND 150. 000?[/QUOTE]This guy has a completely confusing concept of writing numbers (mixing Arabic Numerals with a Roman one as a multiplier) and means 150. 000 VND (I'd abbreviate that as 150k).
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[QUOTE=Tiger 888;1299841]This guy has a completely confusing concept of writing numbers (mixing Arabic Numerals with a Roman one as a multiplier) and means 150. 000 VND (I'd abbreviate that as 150k).[/QUOTE]And 1. 5 million is not us$150.:)
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[QUOTE=Thehank; 1299840]What do I need to say to get a decent BBJ with CIM?
I understand that damage for that is around 150 + 50k tip? Is that correct?
Thanks.
Hank[/QUOTE]Hi,
Sorry don't remember the address. 2 places (before there where 4) still seem to operate. On way from airport to town taxi has to circle a small park, right behind there comes Hoang Van Thu, there are these shops, still opposite the park. Also ladies on motorbikes around, they know small hotels. Only beware of HIV as many are on the needle.
However re damage you are wrong. 120k is normal cover charge. In this area however they will ask for 150 or 200. Than at least 100 or mostly 150 for the lady. + a tip of 50 or 100 if she was nice. So minimum will be about 300k. Earlier they allowed FS, you will have to check if still possible, things changed drastically over the last few years.
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[QUOTE=Uncle Ho Haha; 1300128]Hi,
Sorry don't remember the address. 2 places (before there where 4) still seem to operate. On way from airport to town taxi has to circle a small park, right behind there comes Hoang Van Thu, there are these shops, still opposite the park. Also ladies on motorbikes around, they know small hotels. Only beware of HIV as many are on the needle.[/QUOTE]Was this answering MY question, or that other guy's? If it's me, I know roughly where you are describing. Anyway, the girl you mentioned before with needlemarks, was she a motorbike girl? Or hot toc girl? Or cafe om? (I would bet a motorbike girl, but it won't shock me if that's wrong)
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Dear Uncle,
Thanks for the info.
I just wonder about the procedure. If I understood the info in this forum correctly, a hot toc is more like a hairdresser than a bar. Is that right?
If so what do I do when I enter the shop. As I do not want a haircut but something compületely different.
Thanks,
The Hank
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Just go into the shop and ask for a massage, and ask to pick your own girl as there'll usually be one that trys to cling.
[QUOTE=Thehank; 1300966]Dear Uncle,
Thanks for the info.
I just wonder about the procedure. If I understood the info in this forum correctly, a hot toc is more like a hairdresser than a bar. Is that right?
If so what do I do when I enter the shop. As I do not want a haircut but something compületely different.
Thanks,
The Hank[/QUOTE]
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Needles = you have to check everywhere.
[QUOTE=Wendella;1300322]Was this answering MY question, or that other guy's? If it's me, I know roughly where you are describing. Anyway, the girl you mentioned before with needlemarks, was she a motorbike girl? Or hot toc girl? Or cafe om? (I would bet a motorbike girl, but it won't shock me if that's wrong)[/QUOTE]Hi, this particular beautiful lady was neither of this, she worked for an old pimp- lady out of a private house, no idea where else she was hunting. This reminds me of an odd experiece some 10 years ago in nha trang. A very nice lady named Misa. Apparently drugged. Took my hand and dragged me to the seaside for a BBBJ. As I couldn't come she just gave a full ride. When I asked for her the next day her collegue shouted to the other girls : "did somebody see HIV- Misa?"
Thank
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[QUOTE=Uncle Ho Haha; 1302140]Hi, this particular beautiful lady was neither of this, she worked for an old pimp- lady out of a private house, no idea where else she was hunting. This reminds me of an odd experiece some 10 years ago in nha trang. A very nice lady named Misa. Apparently drugged. Took my hand and dragged me to the seaside for a BBBJ. As I couldn't come she just gave a full ride. When I asked for her the next day her collegue shouted to the other girls : "did somebody see HIV- Misa?"
Thank[/QUOTE]That's the kind of story that needs to be up here more often. Just think, that girl is probably dead now.
On another forum, one regular member came on a few years back to announce that he had just tested positive. While risk is lower for vaginal sex and BJs, it's still a risk-and that guy said it could only have been one of those 2 ways. He was a Thailand regular, not that country matters.
But girls who do more customers per night increase their risk of being infected (multiply times number of customers-motorbike girls must have highest turnover of any type out there) and IV drug use also greatly increases risk, so both of those together is a pretty high risk situation.
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HIV. Another sad memory
[QUOTE=Wendella; 1302321]That's the kind of story that needs to be up here more often. Just think, that girl is probably dead now.
On another forum, one regular member came on a few years back to announce that he had just tested positive. While risk is lower for vaginal sex and BJs, it's still a risk-and that guy said it could only have been one of those 2 ways. He was a Thailand regular, not that country matters.
But girls who do more customers per night increase their risk of being infected (multiply times number of customers-motorbike girls must have highest turnover of any type out there) and IV drug use also greatly increases risk, so both of those together is a pretty high risk situation.[/QUOTE]Some 15 years ago I met a very nice girl in NaVy massage in Pnp for a couple of months, tall, slim, strong, smart and nice character. Some day she was gone. 2 yrs later a mutual friend told me her story: she was on the needle, H, and spent evry $ she earned for drugs, which where pretty cheap in Cambodia at that time so she must have used a lot. I never had any feeling something was wrong. People say you use H and still have a normal life if you are in a clean environment, I wudn't dare to try to find out but this seems to prove you don't "see" if somebody is fixing or not.
More customers & needle sharing = guarantee for HIV.
When she learnt she was HIV- positive she moved to Siem Reap and went on. At that time her body looked like a ghoul, no trace of her former glory, and no idea how many years she still had. So beware. A few minutes of fun can have a long and unpleasant consquence.
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All set to visit Benny's when I arrive in two days. RTFF, just want to make sure I have it all right. Walk in, point to a girl, do the deed, tip her 100,000, then on the way out plop down 250, 000 dong. Yay or nay?
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[QUOTE=Rick Rock;1320563]All set to visit Benny's when I arrive in two days. RTFF, just want to make sure I have it all right. Walk in, point to a girl, do the deed, tip her 100,000, then on the way out plop down 250, 000 dong. Yay or nay?[/QUOTE]Last time I was there (6 months back) it was 120k to the house as you enter and 100k or maybe 150k to the girl after the deed (depending on performance. Expect a complaint for more though). Any updates proving me wrong are welcome.
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Okay. I may have written down the wrong info. I thought someone said they upped the price. That's why I asked. I'll go along with your formula.
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Hot toc price
[QUOTE=Rick Rock;1320589]Okay. I may have written down the wrong info. I thought someone said they upped the price. That's why I asked. I'll go along with your formula.[/QUOTE]To Rick,
The price should be 220k at Ben ny and 250k at My Tien total if you want you can paid the girl a little more if service is good, there are another hot toc near Tan dinh market at # 84 Nygyuen Phi Knanh price is 200k I like this place the best more girl and cleaner place paid after on your way out.
Fast Eddie 48
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Benny-Here's the drill
[QUOTE=Rick Rock;1320589]Okay. I may have written down the wrong info. I thought someone said they upped the price. That's why I asked. I'll go along with your formula.[/QUOTE]Was there just a few weeks ago. After you walk in the door you'll see a desk on the left. Go to the desk and pay 120, 000. I would suggest having exact change ready. Tell the girl at the desk you want to look at all the girls. If you like the desk girl, you can choose her. All of the girls will assemble for you. Pick one and follow her back.
In my case they put me in a barber chair for a few minutes while she massaged my neck. I'm assuming they were getting the room ready. You'll then be led to a small, private cubicle where the fun begins. I'm not sure what the right amount is to tip but I tipped 200, 000 and the girl did not complain.
There is also the My Tien Hot Toc about three or four doors down but I never visited there.
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[QUOTE=Allover;1320854]...I'm not sure what the right amount is to tip but I tipped 200, 000 and the girl did not complain...[/QUOTE]The right amount used to be 100k. They try to get 200, so of course would most likely not complain. Even 150 should be fine now, but I haven't been in Vietnam for 6 months, so things could have changed.
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Ben Ny Tip
Since I got a positive reaction to my 200K tip I'm sure one could get by for 150K. Since my 200K tip amounted to about US$9. 50 I still felt I got good value and did not horribly overpay.
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One last question, what's the deal with the cafes with blacked out glass a little up from Ben Ny's and My Tien? Same road, up a few hundred meters on the right, some have pictures of sexy Asian women in bikinis on their signs.
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First visit and experience
Hello, I'm a newbie in this forum, an average guy, in my early 20' indochines south east asia usual looks, and met this site as I was about to visit HCMC.
I've read so many reviews but I'm attached to two places in DBP, bennys and my tien. Seems interesting yet I might try those in two days since I just came earlier tonight.
Before the visit, I wanted to ask a couple of things.
1. I don't speak Viet at all, so how do we usually negotiate?
2. Surely I wanted a bargain for massage, and a BJ, and a soft grope inside the cubicle, would bringing 250k dongs be enough?
3. What's the open and close time for each places mentioned above? And are the neighborhood safe enough for tourists?
4. Last, but no least, any other recommends besides Bennys and My Tien? Specifically around D1, pham ngu lao.
Thanks in advance, would be looking forward to get an answer ASAP, due to my only 4 days stay here.
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No need to negotiate. Walk in and put 120, 000 on the counter. Don't need to say a word. A girl will then lead you the lay down chair, give you a bullshit massage, then take you in a booth and blow you. You really don't have to say anything, and in 3 visits I've said maybe 10 words, all English.
After you blow, she'll wipe your unit off and pull your pants up. Give her the tip and she'll open the door, then walk out.
Easy as pie.
The neighborhood is a major highway. About as open as it gets. No safety issues.
I'd like to know open and close too, but can't seem to get the info. I've been as early as noon and as late as 9 pm.
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Nice visit again.
opening times : normally open 9-10 and close 21-23h depending on business. never pay when yo enter, payment is done on leaving and the cashier will give change without arguing, only exception i had was during new year when they asked for 10. 000 lucky money. half a usd, so it be. going rate nowadays seems to be 120t.
last weekend i went to dien bien phu. between the 2 circles, right side. again after longer absence for a round of dirty fun. 2 nice ladies gave rep002 each 50t, one gave a deep wet kiss after she finished a local cim = 100t. the lady who serviced me started with the usual procedure until i pointed my finger to her crotch and told her 500t in viet. last 3 yrs most girls if not all refused but she accepted without further ado. normally they are very afraid of being caught as boss will fire them instantly. either she was new and took the risk, or boss gave permission as i went there for 10 yrs and knows what i like. that's why no address mentioned, i want this place to stay open.
she had a stunning small and fragile body and ok- face, nice behaviour. so after some bj she laid down to receive a bbfs after peeking trough the curtain 10 times to make sure nobody else was near. nothing special but still nice. for better service they have a minihotel around, there any girl will go for fs, only on premises they do refuse, see above.
1 hour of fun set me back 820t which equals some 40 usd
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Phu Quoc
There is at least 1 blow job bar like Be Ny's in Phu Quoc. Maybe more. I've not RTFF'd this thread to see if they are mentioned. I was there a couple of weeks ago, standard set-up a load of girls, cubicles, tits out, pants down. I can't remember the damage. I think 150k tickets and 150k tip.
I was just crusing on a moto so not 100% of address, looking at google maps I'm pretty sure it was Nguyen Trung Tuc east of Hung Vuong intersections. I only went to one but saw another very close. There is a street market close and a sign that says massage outside. PQ town is not big so if you drove every street you'd find it quickly.
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Binh Thanh Hot Toc
(Just noticed I posted the below on Phu quoc in the wrong area, whoops!).
I think this post will mostly be useful for expats or long-term residents with there own transport as I don't know exact addresses and it is a bit out of D1.
I remember reading about these places on the forum somewhere before as there was a debate about D1 vs Duong D1 and what it meant so I guess these places have been mentioned before on the forum. There are three streets in this area and driving all of them (not far, maybe 1km) I saw 8 hot-tocs. The streets are Duong D2, Ung Van Khiem and Duong D1. It is kind of like a loop. Use diadem, it is much better than google maps. Put Duong D1 in the box and select Quan Binh Thanh.
I went into one of these places (it was the second to last before you get back to DBP when driving down D1, on the right hand side as you drive towards DBP). Pulled in, they opened the gate and I drove the bike in. 5 girls there. 5/7's I would say, luckily I got a 7. Nice chick with fair tits for VN and no saigon belly. This is standard hot-tocs set-up, out the back to a dirty room and I can see a couple of Viets getting suckled through the corner.
Standard routine, wash down of fingers, face, stomach and cock and she gets to work. Tits out, pussy out. This chick actively encourage me to finger her which is a first for me in hot-tocs (only been three times before). Fingering away and getting a suck job, then she totally through me by jumping on the bench thing and shoving pussy in face. I was totally unsure what to do, but ended up DATY and shoving my tongue in her ass. I'm now extremely worried that I will have caught something. But fingers crossed. I paid 250k to the girl (no ticket, not discussion on price before hand) and she seemed happy enough. This place was very dingy and the area was a bit ropey.
If I was a visitor I would ask to be dropped off at the junction of DBP and Duong D2 (the cabs can cross the road there heading from D1) and then just point at a random shop and get out. You can then walk the circuit and choose a couple of random hot-tocs. Cab should cost 100 or less from D1, Moto 40 or so.
Will explore again and try and remember the name this time.
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Only use Ben Ny if you are new
First time visitor to HCMC, couldn't wait to hit the streets after reading so much in the Forums. Thought I would play safe first time out and headed over to BDP to try Ben Ny's or one of the many others on that strip. Went in, did as others had advised and placed 120K down. Only 3 girls on show, all pretty poor looking. Took the biggest tits so I had something to play with. Laid me down out the back, one other guy there, local with two girls around him, I'm a fairly fat guy with not a single work of Viet spoken, felt pretty strange. After 3 minutes my girl took me into one of the small rooms, dropped my drawers and wiped me down. Dropped her panties and started licking me all over, actully pretty talented tounge but when I went the fingers she was so dry I had no access to either hole. Tried to lick the fingers to get some slide but she immediatley wiped them off. Somehow a clean westerner show showers twice daily carries more germs than the girls working there.
Nothing was a rush, took her time while I tried to get her wet and push in deep. Kept me hard but gave me no interest in wanting FS, not that I would have tried it there. When I was ready I gave her encouragement and blew a nice load, mae her stay on it for a while to enjoy it. Cleaned me up and asked for a second go, I declined as she didn't do it for me. She tried to make me give her 200k, ended up yelling at her and giving only 150k as she was not worth any more based on the Forums. I am very happy to pay for good time and good service, but it has to be earned.
Left and walked the street for a while to look into some of the other places, some obvious, some not. Looking forward to my next go, but finding it really hard to distinguish the good from the bad. Would love to find a local who speaks enough Viet to go everywhere with me, happy to pay him and even pay for his happy times as well. A local speaker really is an advantage.
Also trying to nail one of the hotel girls (5 star hotel in D1, very hard to get the staff as they are scared of losing their jobs) One of the cleaning staff was in my room one afternoon during turn down (they clean in pairs normally) , managed to get her interested enough to allow me to open her shirt and touch her tits. Will try and bed her tomorrow and post the details. Amazing how they change once they see some large bills on the dresser and think they have options! Got to make sure I am naked in a towel and ready to try it on.
Be safe.
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Nice report.
I wished I was there to chill with you, fluent in vietnamese. I won't get there until December.
Keep us posted with your adventures.
[QUOTE=AusMonger100; 1344600]First time visitor to HCMC, couldn't wait to hit the streets after reading so much in the Forums. Thought I would play safe first time out and headed over to BDP to try Ben Ny's or one of the many others on that strip. Went in, did as others had advised and placed 120K down. Only 3 girls on show, all pretty poor looking. Took the biggest tits so I had something to play with. Laid me down out the back, one other guy there, local with two girls around him, I'm a fairly fat guy with not a single work of Viet spoken, felt pretty strange. After 3 minutes my girl took me into one of the small rooms, dropped my drawers and wiped me down. Dropped her panties and started licking me all over, actully pretty talented tounge but when I went the fingers she was so dry I had no access to either hole. Tried to lick the fingers to get some slide but she immediatley wiped them off. Somehow a clean westerner show showers twice daily carries more germs than the girls working there.
Nothing was a rush, took her time while I tried to get her wet and push in deep. Kept me hard but gave me no interest in wanting FS, not that I would have tried it there. When I was ready I gave her encouragement and blew a nice load, mae her stay on it for a while to enjoy it. Cleaned me up and asked for a second go, I declined as she didn't do it for me. She tried to make me give her 200k, ended up yelling at her and giving only 150k as she was not worth any more based on the Forums. I am very happy to pay for good time and good service, but it has to be earned.
Left and walked the street for a while to look into some of the other places, some obvious, some not. Looking forward to my next go, but finding it really hard to distinguish the good from the bad. Would love to find a local who speaks enough Viet to go everywhere with me, happy to pay him and even pay for his happy times as well. A local speaker really is an advantage.
Also trying to nail one of the hotel girls (5 star hotel in D1, very hard to get the staff as they are scared of losing their jobs) One of the cleaning staff was in my room one afternoon during turn down (they clean in pairs normally) , managed to get her interested enough to allow me to open her shirt and touch her tits. Will try and bed her tomorrow and post the details. Amazing how they change once they see some large bills on the dresser and think they have options! Got to make sure I am naked in a towel and ready to try it on.
Be safe.[/QUOTE]
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I recently moved to HCM a few months ago. I live and work in D1. Can you tell me where I can get a lunch time blow job in D1?
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2 VK bound for HCMC, Nha Trang, Phnom Penh, and Bangkok in early Dec.
Hey,
My buddy and I are heading to SEA for a few weeks. Was wondering if anyone is visiting in December also or if any local expats want to meet up for some beer at the local hotspots. We're not familiar with hcmc and was wondering if some local / expert could show us around like mp's, bars, good eats. I'm fluent and can read and write in vietnamese (if it helps at all).
Thanks
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[QUOTE=AusMonger100; 1344600]First time visitor to HCMC, couldn't wait to hit the streets after reading so much in the Forums. Thought I would play safe first time out and headed over to BDP to try Ben Ny's or one of the many others on that strip. Went in, did as others had advised and placed 120K down. Only 3 girls on show, all pretty poor looking. Took the biggest tits so I had something to play with. Laid me down out the back, one other guy there, local with two girls around him, I'm a fairly fat guy with not a single work of Viet spoken, felt pretty strange. After 3 minutes my girl took me into one of the small rooms, dropped my drawers and wiped me down. Dropped her panties and started licking me all over, actully pretty talented tounge but when I went the fingers she was so dry I had no access to either hole. Tried to lick the fingers to get some slide but she immediatley wiped them off. Somehow a clean westerner show showers twice daily carries more germs than the girls working there.
Nothing was a rush, took her time while I tried to get her wet and push in deep. Kept me hard but gave me no interest in wanting FS, not that I would have tried it there. When I was ready I gave her encouragement and blew a nice load, mae her stay on it for a while to enjoy it. Cleaned me up and asked for a second go, I declined as she didn't do it for me. She tried to make me give her 200k, ended up yelling at her and giving only 150k as she was not worth any more based on the Forums. I am very happy to pay for good time and good service, but it has to be earned.
Left and walked the street for a while to look into some of the other places, some obvious, some not. Looking forward to my next go, but finding it really hard to distinguish the good from the bad. Would love to find a local who speaks enough Viet to go everywhere with me, happy to pay him and even pay for his happy times as well. A local speaker really is an advantage.
Also trying to nail one of the hotel girls (5 star hotel in D1, very hard to get the staff as they are scared of losing their jobs) One of the cleaning staff was in my room one afternoon during turn down (they clean in pairs normally) , managed to get her interested enough to allow me to open her shirt and touch her tits. Will try and bed her tomorrow and post the details. Amazing how they change once they see some large bills on the dresser and think they have options! Got to make sure I am naked in a towel and ready to try it on.
Be safe.[/QUOTE]Hello. I'm a vietnamese and I often go to beauty salon which have pretty girls for massage (HJ, BJ.) , washing hair. So if you want to have a company to go looking for girls you can send me a PM include Yahoo Messenger. My english Vocabulary is ok because of watching subtitle movies. But grammar is not good.
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I'm at HCMC. I change job so I get some free days: 14 25 Nov 2012. If any want to go fuck with pretty girl with 650. 000VND / s.
Mail me: [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue] (give me your Vietnamese call number if you have) and I shall show you a tour (3 persons is max)
If I just chose one or two person, please do not angry. Because I have not enough time for all
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My Tien
First time here as I usually frequent Ben Ny. Hot little spinner named Ny with a wicked hot body at 10:00am. Decent BJ skills but very dry for fingering. Would go back. 200k total all to her as no one at the desk.
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I fucked up guys. I finally made it to Benny's and I tipped the girl 200k and she asked for 300k and I didn't negotiate, so I gave her the extra 100, 000. Won't do it again.
I'm sticking with 200k, but it was my first time so newbie mistake. Otherwise I was satisfied with the place and will return.
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[QUOTE=Americanthief; 1360354]I fucked up guys. I finally made it to Benny's and I tipped the girl 200k and she asked for 300k and I didn't negotiate, so I gave her the extra 100, 000. Won't do it again.
I'm sticking with 200k, but it was my first time so newbie mistake. Otherwise I was satisfied with the place and will return.[/QUOTE]Don't do that again! That is an extra almost 5 USD
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Hey Guys,
Just went to bennys today, don't do these things too often. Walked in and the cashier girl said 320 and no tip? Wasnt too sure if things changed or something as I read its normally 150 shop and 150 girl? Is this right?
They walk me through the hall with all the girls sitting. They didn't ask me to choose. Can I? They sat me down in the private room and a girl walked in (around a 6, hotter girls were sitting down outside.)
Don't mind really but is there meant to be a massage? She started straight with some nipple play and goes straight to my member. Pretty decent job, are there any girls that deep throat there?
She let me finger her pussy and lick her tits. Tried to finger her ass no go haha wasnt really expecting to. Ended with CIM. Felt pretty bad not tipping. Then walked out. Not bad for 15 bucks haha
Only here for a few days in HCM, what signs are there to spot other hot tocs or should I just stick to benny and my thien? Will probably try one or 2 more times.
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Hot doc
[QUOTE=MoreRiceWong; 1364047]Hey Guys,
Just went to bennys today, don't do these things too often. Walked in and the cashier girl said 320 and no tip? Wasnt too sure if things changed or something as I read its normally 150 shop and 150 girl? Is this right?
They walk me through the hall with all the girls sitting. They didn't ask me to choose. Can I? They sat me down in the private room and a girl walked in (around a 6, hotter girls were sitting down outside.)
Don't mind really but is there meant to be a massage? She started straight with some nipple play and goes straight to my member. Pretty decent job, are there any girls that deep throat there?
She let me finger her pussy and lick her tits. Tried to finger her ass no go haha wasnt really expecting to. Ended with CIM. Felt pretty bad not tipping. Then walked out. Not bad for 15 bucks haha
Only here for a few days in HCM, what signs are there to spot other hot tocs or should I just stick to benny and my thien? Will probably try one or 2 more times.[/QUOTE]If you are clearly a foreigner whether white or from other asian countries who do not speak english then there is a mandatory 200k tip plus the usual entry fee of 120k up front at desk (the girl will still ask for more at the end but don't fall for it they are happy with the 200k you paid up front). If you are a vietnamese local or at least speak fluent vietnamese without an accent like me, you'd walk in say hi to the front desk and choose a girl in the hallway without paying anything first and 120k +100k tip will be accepted by your girl without much complaint (I usually just give my girl 250k which she then pays 120k to the house leaving her 130k). Sometimes the girls also hang out in the front cubical which means they are free as well. I prefer ben ny over my tien. The set up seems to be cleaner and the service is a little bit less rushed. Although my tien has less quality girls, some are still cute and you can choose but there are some fatties in there as well. I hop over to my tien when ben ny happens to be closed. There are so many hot tocs throughout almost every district in the city. I've tried other random hot tocs but it's usually not a good idea to always be a first time customer and some have higher entry fee than ben ny and my tien. You can spot these BJ spots when out front only has a sign that says "hot toc" with little or no other descriptions and often times has a neon flashing sign as well and are usually on main streets not smaller roads or alley ways. Ben ny is my favorite as I am a frequent customer and often take non vietnamese friends from the US in and they get the same deal as me unless they walked in on their own. But you know what, if you are a foreigner going into ben ny's, don't feel bad that you'd be tipping more than the average guy. I've seen some generous fools tip 500k and up. Even if you tip more than the usual it would't set a higher precedent. To each their own.
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Ben Ny
Quote "If you are clearly a foreigner whether white or from other asian countries who do not speak english then there is a mandatory 200k tip plus the usual entry fee of 120k up front at desk"
This simply isn't true at all. I'm white as they come. I walked in and they said 200 in Viet. I said 120 in Viet and put in down on the counter. Gave 100 as I walked out. It's one thing reporting your experiences, but to say it mandatory is another thing entirely and sets a bad precedent. How do you know it is mandatory? Did you talk to them in Viet to establish company police? Multiple reports on here about people paying 220 or 250 all in who are no locals.
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[QUOTE=DavePuppy; 1371203]Quote "If you are clearly a foreigner whether white or from other asian countries who do not speak english then there is a mandatory 200k tip plus the usual entry fee of 120k up front at desk"
This simply isn't true at all. I'm white as they come. I walked in and they said 200 in Viet. I said 120 in Viet and put in down on the counter. Gave 100 as I walked out. It's one thing reporting your experiences, but to say it mandatory is another thing entirely and sets a bad precedent. How do you know it is mandatory? Did you talk to them in Viet to establish company police? Multiple reports on here about people paying 220 or 250 all in who are no locals.[/QUOTE]Thanks for clarifying. I try to contribute from my experience and personal opinion but, please don't say "this simply isn't true at all". It is true at times and it is not other times as you've read pass reports. The experiences are variable. Maybe if you're a first timer or the desk person have not seen you before, they would have a standard up front payment. My experience is from talking to the different girls in there. Sorry for using the term "mandatory" but it's probably the usual standard procedure but also it depends on the front desk's discretion, mood and timing such as holidays. Some pay 220, 250, 320 up front and some pay on the way out. I've also read that some non locals chose to walk instead of paying the extra.
120k +100k tip seems like the bare minimum even for locals. I don't know why but after a hard rain here in saigon today I felt like hitting up ben nys as I know it would be slow and lots of girls are available to choose. This time I gave 300k to the girl which leaves her 180k since she was very enthusiastic the whole time. Ask for xuan (cute face with darling eyes) if you like an enthusiastic BJ with tongue action.
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I'm no local, European-American, but when I visited Ben Ny over the summer just plopped 120 down on the table when I walked in like I knew what I was doing and handed the girl 120 after she gobbled my gizzard in the room. No problems whatsoever. Came back the next two days and repeated with different women. I think a lot of western guys have a problem manning up, and that's why prices are going nuts in most of the places they visit. I imagine them looking like Jerry Lewis or something trying to negotiate. Grow a fucking spine and pay the pre-established prices!
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Not NOT NOT mandatory
[QUOTE=KnightsOfShame;1371029]If you are clearly a foreigner whether white or from other asian countries who do not speak english then there is a mandatory 200k tip plus the usual entry fee of 120k up front at desk (the girl will still ask for more at the end but don't fall for it they are happy with the 200k you paid up front). If you are a vietnamese local or at least speak fluent vietnamese without an accent like me, you'd walk in say hi to the front desk and choose a girl in the hallway without paying anything first and 120k +100k tip will be accepted by your girl without much complaint (I usually just give my girl 250k which she then pays 120k to the house leaving her 130k). Sometimes the girls also hang out in the front cubical which means they are free as well. I prefer ben ny over my tien. The set up seems to be cleaner and the service is a little bit less rushed. Although my tien has less quality girls, some are still cute and you can choose but there are some fatties in there as well. I hop over to my tien when ben ny happens to be closed. There are so many hot tocs throughout almost every district in the city. I've tried other random hot tocs but it's usually not a good idea to always be a first time customer and some have higher entry fee than ben ny and my tien. You can spot these BJ spots when out front only has a sign that says "hot toc" with little or no other descriptions and often times has a neon flashing sign as well and are usually on main streets not smaller roads or alley ways. Ben ny is my favorite as I am a frequent customer and often take non vietnamese friends from the US in and they get the same deal as me unless they walked in on their own. But you know what, if you are a foreigner going into ben ny's, don't feel bad that you'd be tipping more than the average guy. I've seen some generous fools tip 500k and up. Even if you tip more than the usual it would't set a higher precedent. To each their own.[/QUOTE]I visit the hot tocs quite often and I have never given any more than 120 + 120.
Please do not jack up the prices tourists.
Absolutely no need to negotiate,
Please please please go by the standard prices which is 120 by the table as you enter and 120 to the girl after the deed is done.
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[QUOTE=AssLover945; 1371442]I visit the hot tocs quite often and I have never given any more than 120 + 120.
Please do not jack up the prices tourists.
Absolutely no need to negotiate,
Please please please go by the standard prices which is 120 by the table as you enter and 120 to the girl after the deed is done.[/QUOTE]I consider it as very important that someone here updates at least every three months that prices are "still the same"/"if they have gone up, how much".
I won't be in Vietnam very soon.
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Hot Tocs
Excellent advice and assistance here from forum members.
I'm just back from visiting both places. Ben Nys had at least 15 girls sitting around and My Tien 10 or so.
I did the drop 120, 000vnd with the mama at Ben Nys cash and kept walking.
The girl who was "up" was cute (a 7. 5 where I'm from). Ie. Very doable. The service was good to very good. It's nice to be in the hands (mouth) of a pro.
She wasn't happy with the 120, 000 I gave her at completion. And like all visitors, I was tempted to tip more.
I just smiled as said see you next time. She replied, don't pick me next time.
As if I would! There are 24 other girls to try. .
[QUOTE=AssLover945; 1371442]I visit the hot tocs quite often and I have never given any more than 120 + 120.
Please do not jack up the prices tourists.
Absolutely no need to negotiate,
Please please please go by the standard prices which is 120 by the table as you enter and 120 to the girl after the deed is done.[/QUOTE]
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Hot Toc. 3 days Later
Well it seems as though they were waiting for me to return to Ben Nys (three days later).
I followed the same MO as first time, dropped my 120 at the desk and two girls came right up and said no, it's 320, 000 all included.
I guess they are-e-a-l-l-why wanted that 200, 000vnd tip.
The desk mamason-cashier looked a little perturbed with her flock. I said no and started to walk away slowly. Wondering if they would cave.
I guess Zero dong with 18 girls sitting around and not doing anything, was better than 120, 000vnd. Because they let me walk.
I took my business that night to My Tien, for a perfectly good session with a 6/10 happy, smiling appreciative girl!
All I could think about were my brothers living in Vietnam.
You guys owe me one for not wrecking the market <LOL
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Trang Anh. B&G
Went to Trang Anh on D5 Street (same owner as My Tien). Found Tu, a new girl with avg tits but great ass and body with good attitude. Great BJ and she seems to enjoy getting fucked as she was really into it. You can get FS if nobody else in the room and it might also depend on the girl. I gave her 400k for FS. Ticket was 150k for large room and 120k for small room. I also tried Tam (older girl) , she will allow anal but you have to really push for it. Bring your own condom.
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Trang Anh B&G
Went to Trang Anh barber shop on D5 Street (same owner as My Tien). The place is quite friendly. Met a new girl, Tu. Good attitude, great body, tits average but firm and a very nice ass. She gives a great BJ and managed to get FS from her. She seems to enjoy getting fucked so it made the experience that much better. I think FS here depends on the girl and if no one else is in the room. I gave her 400k. The ticket is 150k for large room and 120k for small room. Bring your own condom. BTW, I also tried Tam who is older but allows anal if you really push for it.
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Nguyen Phi Ky
Has anyone been out to NPK lately? That used to be my favorite place because it was more locals and very few foreigners. Then they got the fever and started over charging for foreigners so that's when I opted for DBP st. Used to be a great place on Nguyen Van Nguyen but it's been closed for awhile. Does anyone know where those girls ended up? They had excellent service and no haggling at all. 200k total.
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[QUOTE=Dragonfly22;1381426]Has anyone been out to NPK lately? That used to be my favorite place because it was more locals and very few foreigners. Then they got the fever and started over charging for foreigners so that's when I opted for DBP st. Used to be a great place on Nguyen Van Nguyen but it's been closed for awhile. Does anyone know where those girls ended up? They had excellent service and no haggling at all. 200k total.[/QUOTE]Yeah its TERRIBLE stay away rip off joints.
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[QUOTE=Cappy; 1380581]Well it seems as though they were waiting for me to return to Ben Nys (three days later).
I followed the same MO as first time, dropped my 120 at the desk and two girls came right up and said no, it's 320, 000 all included.
I guess they are-e-a-l-l-why wanted that 200, 000vnd tip.
The desk mamason-cashier looked a little perturbed with her flock. I said no and started to walk away slowly. Wondering if they would cave.
I guess Zero dong with 18 girls sitting around and not doing anything, was better than 120, 000vnd. Because they let me walk.
I took my business that night to My Tien, for a perfectly good session with a 6/10 happy, smiling appreciative girl!
All I could think about were my brothers living in Vietnam.
You guys owe me one for not wrecking the market <LOL[/QUOTE]WAY TO GO CAPPY!
(high five)
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Please pm
[QUOTE=Saigon Sam;1381286]Went to Trang Anh on D5 Street (same owner as My Tien). Found Tu, a new girl with avg tits but great ass and body with good attitude. Great BJ and she seems to enjoy getting fucked as she was really into it. You can get FS if nobody else in the room and it might also depend on the girl. I gave her 400k for FS. Ticket was 150k for large room and 120k for small room. I also tried Tam (older girl) , she will allow anal but you have to really push for it. Bring your own condom.[/QUOTE]Please pm addres to me.
Thanks
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Trang Anh Address
[QUOTE=Pnhsgn; 1386743]Please pm addres to me.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Sorry, I don't know the adddress but D5 is not more than 1km long. Its in Binh Thanh district near Van Thanh Park. Just google map D5 Street in Binh Thanh. Look for a street called D2 as D5 is perpendicular to it. You can't miss it, there is a large LED type sign displaying Trang Anh Hoc Toc on the front of the store.
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New FS Massage / Hoc Toc by airport
I usually go to the FS place in Korea Town on Ba Vi, but was told by the owner there to try a new place she opened near Superbowl (just down the street). I tried it and was ok. Its new so its clean. Lots more space here than the Ba Vi area and rooms are bigger. Anyway, the place is called Tay Ho and it on the side street of Superbowl. You have to go into a small ally about 50m in. Look for the light box that says Tay Ho in the front of the alley. The selection is not that good but was told new girls are on the way. Standard fare of 200k plus 500k. I was also told this place welcomes locals but forgot to ask about the price.
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Superb
[QUOTE=Cappy; 1380581]Well it seems as though they were waiting for me to return to Ben Nys (three days later).
I followed the same MO as first time, dropped my 120 at the desk and two girls came right up and said no, it's 320, 000 all included.
I guess they are-e-a-l-l-why wanted that 200, 000vnd tip.
The desk mamason-cashier looked a little perturbed with her flock. I said no and started to walk away slowly. Wondering if they would cave.
I guess Zero dong with 18 girls sitting around and not doing anything, was better than 120, 000vnd. Because they let me walk.
I took my business that night to My Tien, for a perfectly good session with a 6/10 happy, smiling appreciative girl!
All I could think about were my brothers living in Vietnam.
You guys owe me one for not wrecking the market <LOL[/QUOTE]So nice of you, you did the right thing dude, instead of listening to your dick. You did keep the price control
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[QUOTE=Dragonfly22;1381426]Has anyone been out to NPK lately? That used to be my favorite place because it was more locals and very few foreigners. Then they got the fever and started over charging for foreigners so that's when I opted for DBP st. Used to be a great place on Nguyen Van Nguyen but it's been closed for awhile. Does anyone know where those girls ended up? They had excellent service and no haggling at all. 200k total.[/QUOTE]A tout on a motorbike just took me there a minute ago. There were 3 hot tocs right there together. Before he took me he said a girl would cost me 300K. I thought it was for everything. When we arrived at the first HT I said man this place only costs 200K. He started laughing. I said by the way I thought you were taking me somewhere I could boom boom. I'm not much into blow jobs. I like to pound flesh. We went next door to another then across the street to another. Only BJs on the menu though. Then I had him take me to MT and BN but we couldn't find them. I didn't see any chicks on the bridge specified by Old New Guy who I could be sure were working, so I had him bring me back to the hotel. I gave him 100K and a meal at KFC. He wanted an additional 100K but I told him no way.
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[QUOTE=Saigon Sam;1391674]I usually go to the FS place in Korea Town on Ba Vi, but was told by the owner there to try a new place she opened near Superbowl (just down the street). I tried it and was ok. Its new so its clean. Lots more space here than the Ba Vi area and rooms are bigger. Anyway, the place is called Tay Ho and it on the side street of Superbowl. You have to go into a small ally about 50m in. Look for the light box that says Tay Ho in the front of the alley. The selection is not that good but was told new girls are on the way. Standard fare of 200k plus 500k. I was also told this place welcomes locals but forgot to ask about the price.[/QUOTE]Tried this place last night, nearly 2 weeks after Saigon Sam's post below. Opened the door to 3 disinterested girls, one of whom was in the middle of text messaging and did not even bother to raise her eyes to greet me.
Turned and walked out. One of the girls, in an attempt at some reverse marketing, told me they have another salon on Ba Vi and that I should pop over as they have 'more girls' there.
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Ben Ny's
Sorry guys,
Went back 6-8 pages but still could not get address of Ben Ny's. Would appreciate it if anyone could put this up here. Am going to me in HCM on SUnday and Monday night and if anyone wants to join in for a drink please send me PM.
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[QUOTE=Travel Buddy; 1406872]Sorry guys,
Went back 6-8 pages but still could not get address of Ben Ny's. Would appreciate it if anyone could put this up here. Am going to me in HCM on SUnday and Monday night and if anyone wants to join in for a drink please send me PM.[/QUOTE]Looking at your past posts this seems to be your usual MO, reading back x number of pages then saying you can't find the relevant info. A intelligent man, actually even a lab rat would learn from his past failures, so ill help you by pointing out the obvious as it has been stated Chinese axiom "Give a man a fish, and you have fed him once. Teach him how to fish and you have fed him for a lifetime." Well the answer to your problems is try reading back FURTHER.
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[QUOTE=MutantChicken;1407290]... Well the answer to your problems is try reading back FURTHER.[/QUOTE]Not even necessary. A simple google search would do instead of asking for being spoon-fed.
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Just returned from Ben Ny. Never take a new girl. Always take a strawberry blond girl that you've seen or had before.
New girls don't know how to satisfy.
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Trang anh barber
Well thanks to the info on this forum I found trang anh barber shop but I didn't get a hair cut. I went in asked for tu and was redirected to a very acceptable little morsel named lin. We didn't even discuss price until after she was already giving me a mediocre BBBJ and I was rubbing her lovely little sparsely haired beaver and suckling her firm young breasts. I offered to DATY which she refused but offered boom boom for 600k. I countered with 600k all in and she smiled and said yes, I gave her the 600k and we were off to the races. After the deed she washed me up. LOL I had to stand on my tip toes as she showered my package in the hair wash sink it was kinda funny but got the job done. After I was put back together she said you pay shop. I kinda laughed and said no baby you pay shop that was the deal. She said ok and smiled and said see you next time as I walked out the door.
My next stop will be korean town if I can figure out the location. So far I have had no luck, but I'm persistant when it comes to asian tang.
Have fun but look out for the boogy man he's out there trying to get your dong.
LuvAsianTang
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Local karaoke, hot toc
There are a lot of situations where the cheap and good value in the Ho Chi Minh.
But I now live in South Korea.
320,000 the. Benny price prices have risen a lot.
200,000 the, where possible, there are many.
Two people go drinking local karaoke 1,500,000, followed by the value of the degree the.
Vietnamese language study is most need.
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What's the difference between a Cat Toc and a Hot Toc? There are some Cat Toc places near my home. I see lots of men getting hair cuts, but what are the girls in uniform doing there? Massage? HJ? I guess no one can tell me, so I'll have to go inside on my own.
Was feeling conflicted today. My hot girl is a pain in the ass as usual, demanding I take her to a high end restaurant for lunch and Starbucks after.
***** drives me crazy until we fuck and then it's all good. I love young white skinned vietnamese girls with huge boobs and small bodies that fuck like porn star. Oh my god she's hot and you wouldn't believe she's mine if you met us, you just wouldn't.
But my baby girl wanted to meet me too, and I wasn't sure what to do because after we fuck I have to nurture her for hours and I wasn't up for that today. I'm going to meet her mid week.
So I went to Ben Ny's to blow my load and avoid the drama that my non pros dish out.
No thin girls. All have bellies bigger than mine. Not that it matter since it's just a BJ, but it kind of does to me.
Her service was great. She was nice and kind and offered me a second. I'm not complaining. I just want attraction.
Face 3.
Body 1.
Servie 8.
Typical of all my Ben Ny's experiences. But I'm kind of burned out. Good value and secure though, and that counts for a lot.
Oh her name was Bao Ngoc. But I like Thuy Tien. Tien does it nice and slow but she's gone.
Shit I don't have subscription. I was going to ask if anyone knows where the cat houses are. I know they exists, but need inside info.
PEACE!
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2 at Ben Ny's
Went to Ben Ny's at around 12.
Quite a good number of girls on bench,
The first one on queue wasnt attractive, but I went in anyway.
Handed the mandatory 120, 000 VND house fees to a young guy in counter and Thuy took me on from there.
My broken Vietnamese didn't help, but who needs to talk, when in there.
Nice boobs, nice ass, blew my wad in 10 mins or so and I was about to go out, when I spotted this girl on the bench on the way out. She told me her name was ying.
Oh my god what beautiful boobs!
I blew my wad again within the next 30 mins, which I thought was impossible and walked out with a happy smile!
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[QUOTE=Americanthief;1413175]What's the difference between a Cat Toc and a Hot Toc?[/QUOTE]One is the northern and one is the southern Vietnamese way of describing a haircut or a place to get one. They can be used interchangeably. So much so that I forget which is which!
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BJ style
Firstly, thanks to all those who post and give pointers on how to live la vids loca. Just joining the forum, but have read extensively.
I'm new to vietnam and tried a few of the hot tocs recently, noticed that lots of the girls (smoking hot most of them BTW.) have default style BJ of fast motion, usually not too deep, not as much suction. My vietnamese is a struggle and I've tried directing a little bit to get them to do it the way I like but sometimes not happenin.
Never experienced these types of bjs really. In Thailand they suck out your living being LOL, almost no direction.
Anyways. Any tips on how to ensure the right technique at these places other than what I'm doing, or any recs on specific hot tocs? I'm new to the area.
Thanks
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BJ technique
[QUOTE=AssLover945; 1413318]Went to Ben Ny's at around 12.
Quite a good number of girls on bench,
The first one on queue wasnt attractive, but I went in anyway.
Handed the mandatory 120, 000 VND house fees to a young guy in counter and Thuy took me on from there.
My broken Vietnamese didn't help, but who needs to talk, when in there.
Nice boobs, nice ass, blew my wad in 10 mins or so and I was about to go out, when I spotted this girl on the bench on the way out. She told me her name was ying.
Oh my god what beautiful boobs!
I blew my wad again within the next 30 mins, which I thought was impossible and walked out with a happy smile![/QUOTE]Do all the girls in vn do the quick up and down on the head only. My vietnamese is very little and it's hard to direct them to go deeper. Any tips on getting good service or places besides my tien and Benny's where they do it different? First post BTW and thanks.
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Deepthroating is what girlfriends do to show you their love or to seduce you into making you their boyfriends.
Deepthroating is what portstarts do to become more famous.
Working the head to make you cum as fast as possible is what blow job girls do because its only business.
However, there are a few older women at Ben ny's that go 3/4 of the way down to make up for their, uhm, fuglieness in hopes for a better tip.
And yes, I've found Thai girls to be much better at BJs than Viets
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Use the girls pinky finger to show what you want.
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9 photos
[QUOTE=JustinMouff;1414497]Do all the girls in vn do the quick up and down on the head only. My vietnamese is very little and it's hard to direct them to go deeper. Any tips on getting good service or places besides my tien and Benny's where they do it different? First post BTW and thanks.[/QUOTE]It's difficult to say what 'all' girls do in a country of 92 million people. How do 'all' girls do it in other countries, for example?
Most Vietnamese are very little, as you note. That's why I like them.
The best way to get them to go deeper is to put one or both of your big, strong meaty hands on the back or their head, neck or both, then pull it toward you if you are standing or push it down if you are lying down. Do this while your cock is as far inside her mouth as she is currently willing to do. At the moment you press down or toward, simultaneously use your hips to thrust your pelvis forward or upward. This will cause your cock to go deeper in her mouth and maybe to her throat. Be prepared for her to gag and / or choke from this. Expect lots of gooey saliva to emanate. Repeat these steps over and over until you are happy.
At Blow and Gos, I prefer one hand on the back of her head and one hand squeezing a little ass cheek very hard while snaking one or two fingers into her asshole. It's fun to feel the reaction in her asshole when she chokes or gags. Don't worry, they are used to it and can take it all. They do BJ all day every day for all types of guys, so they know what's up. But if they can make you cum from tip bobbing, then why not try that first? It's a dirty job but somebody has to do it.
Attached are some pictures of Kim Anh illustrating the procedure. Kim Anh is a hard-working girl who gives a way above average BJ and always takes cum in her mouth, but needs a little heavy-handed encouragement to go those last couple of inches.
JD
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[QUOTE=Djle7159;1416417]Use the girls pinky finger to show what you want.[/QUOTE]As in want to see a magic trick? Here pull my finger?
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Ben Ny's. Pricing
As per this report :
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2661-Ho-Chi-Minh-City-Massage-Parlors&p=1415114&viewfull=1#post1415114[/url]
Anyone else having issues with them complaining about the tip? I've had a couple of friends report that they are being stopped as they enter and told the price is higher than it has been reported. Same as this guy 300. 000vnd now?
And these aren't newbies reporting the prices. They are walking but it's kinda frustrating.
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[quote=justinmouff;1414497]do all the girls in vn do the quick up and down on the head only. my vietnamese is very little and it's hard to direct them to go deeper. any tips on getting good service or places besides my tien and benny's where they do it different?[/quote]
the illustrated reply from the expert (johndao) indicates that you need to get borderline rapey to force something resembling good service out of them. not being ironic, it's how things work here. if you're uncomfortable with that (as i am), too bad, vietnam is probably not for you. much as i like the $12 blowjobs, after ~20 attempts, i just gave up.
in vietnam in general it seems to be hard to get by without being a pushy demanding asshole (not a whiny one!). i guess the vietnamese are used to that. in thailand, the same attitude wouldn't work too well. cultural differences.
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Bj
Glad I'm not the only one who found that commentary from JD slightly disturbing.
I think calling it cultural differences is generous.
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[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1418240]Much as I like the $12 blowjobs, after ~20 attempts, I just gave up.[/QUOTE]This is how I feel too. The first few times were fine for a $12 blowjob, but yeah, each time I go I'm more and more unsatisfied. I took a new girl in her twenties. She was cute with a good body. She kept stopping mid blow to spit out her excess salava instead of using it. It was dry and just awful.
The next girl I had was doing the short and fast head suck, and even used her hand half the time. It took me a while but as soon as I unloaded she ran to the sinking gagging while I continued to ejaculate all over myself. By far the worst.
The vietnamese clients can tell the girls what to do, and sure you can use body language. I will force her head to stay on my cock the next time I cum in her mouth.
By the way, Viet clients pay after, not before like us foreigners. The just walk in, take the girl and she escorts him to the payment counter afterwards.
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I try to find out this place but not able to see Tay Ho sign board anywhere
[QUOTE=Saigon Sam;1391674]I usually go to the FS place in Korea Town on Ba Vi, but was told by the owner there to try a new place she opened near Superbowl (just down the street). I tried it and was ok. Its new so its clean. Lots more space here than the Ba Vi area and rooms are bigger. Anyway, the place is called Tay Ho and it on the side street of Superbowl. You have to go into a small ally about 50m in. Look for the light box that says Tay Ho in the front of the alley. The selection is not that good but was told new girls are on the way. Standard fare of 200k plus 500k. I was also told this place welcomes locals but forgot to ask about the price.[/QUOTE]Thanks for nice post and I am just living near by Saigon Superbowl mall but I never seen any shop with name Tay ho sign board. Can you please share location in little more detail. As there I can see one billiard pool club and few korean hot toc but no one have name Tay Ho.
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Tay Ho Exists
[QUOTE=LovelyBoy82;1419216]Thanks for nice post and I am just living near by Saigon Superbowl mall but I never seen any shop with name Tay ho sign board. Can you please share location in little more detail. As there I can see one billiard pool club and few korean hot toc but no one have name Tay Ho.[/QUOTE]I was walking in the area today and stumbled across Tay Ho. I believe it is in the fourth alleyway. Another way to describe it is the alleyway across the street from the entrance to the big company behind Saigon Superbowl. Asked for pricing and the lady said 700K. I had to pass since I just had a session at Saigon Superbowl (which I am about to write about in the massage section). I will probably go back to Tay Ho for a visit. The offerings looked decent.
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Npk #84
Visited my old haunt after a couple sessions at Ben Ny and My Fiend. Girls were much younger, acuter and no hurry or hassle with tips. Although $20usd for everything was more than DBP places the service was much better. No rush, excellent skills, total GE. Hadn't been there for 2 years but glad I returned. Try Tuyen. Little 20yo spinner with hot body and mouth. You won't be disappointed. Saw 4-5 others there with all same quality. Less visited and eager to please.
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Thanks D22. Where exactly is this place, please? (Not Benny's. Other one you mentioned)
Thanks
[quote]Girls were much younger, acuter and no hurry or hassle with tips. Although $20usd for everything was more than DBP places the service was much better. No rush, excellent skills, total GE. Hadn't been there for 2 years but glad I returned. Try Tuyen. Little 20yo spinner with hot body and mouth. You won't be disappointed. Saw 4-5 others there with all same quality. Less visited and eager to please.[/QUOTE]
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84 npk
[QUOTE=D Cups; 1423958]Thanks D22. Where exactly is this place, please? (Not Benny's. Other one you mentioned)
Thanks[/QUOTE]I assume it is 84 Nguyen Phi Khanh. NPK it starts at the junction of Dien Tien Hoang and Vo Thi Sau
Not been but may well check it out. Is it 200k ticket and 200k tip?
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Thanks Dave.
If any visitors to 84 NPK find a sexy little busty one there do tell please. I'll be there in July for a few days.
[QUOTE=DavePuppy; 1423991]I assume it is 84 Nguyen Phi Khanh. NPK it starts at the junction of Dien Tien Hoang and Vo Thi Sau
Not been but may well check it out. Is it 200k ticket and 200k tip?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Dragonfly22;1423944]Visited my old haunt after a couple sessions at Ben Ny and My Fiend. Girls were much younger, acuter and no hurry or hassle with tips. Although $20usd for everything was more than DBP places the service was much better. No rush, excellent skills, total GE. Hadn't been there for 2 years but glad I returned. Try Tuyen. Little 20yo spinner with hot body and mouth. You won't be disappointed. Saw 4-5 others there with all same quality.[/QUOTE]Not sure what you mean about 'tips'. I find that making the total payment to the desk as you leave (assuming you know / have agreed prices) the easiest way to go. I pay 250k there (about 12usd) and agree that performances are good, no hurry or hassle. I think this is split 100 to the desk and 150 to the service provider.
Please bear in mind that the total price at Benny's was 150k just three (?) years ago. Now it's 220k and even on this forum, punters being advised of this still think it's 300 or more.
IME the majority of the women at Tuan Tam are in their 30s.
[quote]Less visited and eager to please.[/quote]But we can fix that here.
Coincidentally. 84 was closed last night (police?). It was business as usual on Sunday.
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Doing my home work
Can't find a cross street so can locate ben ny's. Know it is on DBP. Can any body help with a cross street or address.
Thanks
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Just found it.
Just located a way to ben Ny's. Still, could anyone give a major cross street in that area.
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[QUOTE=Mackin;1425226]Just located a way to ben Ny's. Still, could anyone give a major cross street in that area.[/QUOTE]The major cross there is the river, not a street.
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Make Friends
HI every one. I was reading all your comment. You guys just around that area. If you guys want I could show you some new. Because I'm alway go alone just get for fun. I'm vietnamese can speak a bit english. I think enough for you understand and we could make friend go fun sometime. I know many place in dist street 1, 10, 5, BT (benny, my tien.) , TB. 3, So nice to know this page. Because this could be improved my english and have friend to talk. You guys can contact me by mail [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue] or phone [blue][Telephone Number deleted by Admin][/blue]. Thank every one for reading
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Hi Tl777,
You can contact me in private. I will be in Ho Chi Minh this Summer and that will be surely interesting to meet you and seeing around.
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Preggos
I like pregnant girls. Is there any place- bar, red light area, Street workers where pregnant girls can be available?
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[QUOTE=LovelyBoy82;1419216]Thanks for nice post and I am just living near by Saigon Superbowl mall but I never seen any shop with name Tay ho sign board. Can you please share location in little more detail. As there I can see one billiard pool club and few korean hot toc but no one have name Tay Ho.[/QUOTE]Tay Ho : Pham Van Hai street.
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Location of Ben Ny's
Dear friends,
I searched through the forum (s) and found many reviews and recommendations but could not find the address of Ben Ny's. Can anybody help with street name and house number? Alternstive GPS coordinates would also help to gind in google maps.
Additional I'm staying Hai Ba Trung Street. Any recommended places there?
Thanks for helping
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[QUOTE=Pekshy; 1429750]Dear friends,
I searched through the forum (s) and found many reviews and recommendations but could not find the address of Ben Ny's. Can anybody help with street name and house number? Alternstive GPS coordinates would also help to gind in google maps.
Additional I'm staying Hai Ba Trung Street. Any recommended places there?
Thanks for helping[/QUOTE]I'll get you started try, Bihn Thanh District and it is not at the restaurant with the same number. Ask the taxi driver.
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[QUOTE=Skippyboy;1429782]I'll get you started try, Binh Thanh District and it is not at the restaurant with the same number. Ask the taxi driver.[/QUOTE]I corrected the spelling of Binh.
Some streets are quite long hence there has been some confusion with Ben Ny's address.
When you take down an address you will note there is a P followed by a number, eg 123 (number) Vo Thi Sao (street name) P2 (ward) Q3 (district)
If you are at the correct number but wrong business its because you are in the wrong "Phuong" or roughly translated in english to "Ward"
To best describe a ward is to say something Quan 3 or District 3 broken down into smaller areas. Think of a suburb then broken down into mini suburbs.
If you don't get the full address then you may have some difficulties in finding your address.
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Hanoi
Hi guys,
I'm visiting Hanoi. Where can I go to get laid. Safely? A good massage and some gorgeous little Hanoi girls serving it up to me? Any advice welcome.
Thanks
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[QUOTE=Snowman5255; 1430057]Hi guys,
I'm visiting Hanoi. Where can I go to get laid. Safely? A good massage and some gorgeous little Hanoi girls serving it up to me? Any advice welcome.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Maybe you should post in the Hanoi thread. My info might be old but check out the KTV downstairs from Fortuna Hotel or Oasis 2 massage. Both are talked about extensively in Hanoi thread. Regarding Fortuna, you said laid and safe, you didn't say anything about being cheap. Expect to pay $2M and up.
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You might want to read the Hanoi thread.
[QUOTE=Snowman5255; 1430057]Hi guys,
I'm visiting Hanoi. Where can I go to get laid. Safely? A good massage and some gorgeous little Hanoi girls serving it up to me? Any advice welcome.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
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My girl wasn't working at My Friend today so I ventured to 84 NPK. Pretty good spot, small cute girl. She could speak a little English.
A few cute girls there and some lazy ones too lying flat out on the sofa LOL. Good GFE and pretty good BJ. She was complaining a little but not in a bad way, more like I'm the bad boy because I forced her face down on my cock while I blasted the back of her throat and she ended up swallowing some, so she was teasing me about that.
One strange thing is that she offered me a massage after the BJ. But I had to get back to work and not sure what she meant.
I'm done with Ben Nys and their lousy service and ugly girls. I'm staying with my #1 at My Friend until she leaves, and 84 NPK will always be my next choice. Now if I could only get these normal girls to stop asking me for a baby.
Was on BV a few nights ago, complete rip off.
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[QUOTE=Americanthief; 1430576]My girl wasn't working at My Friend today so I ventured to 84 NPK. Pretty good spot, small cute girl. She could speak a little English.
A few cute girls there and some lazy ones too lying flat out on the sofa LOL. Good GFE and pretty good BJ. She was complaining a little but not in a bad way, more like I'm the bad boy because I forced her face down on my cock while I blasted the back of her throat and she ended up swallowing some, so she was teasing me about that.
One strange thing is that she offered me a massage after the BJ. But I had to get back to work and not sure what she meant.
I'm done with Ben Nys and their lousy service and ugly girls. I'm staying with my #1 at My Friend until she leaves, and 84 NPK will always be my next choice. Now if I could only get these normal girls to stop asking me for a baby.
Was on BV a few nights ago, complete rip off.[/QUOTE]Lucky you, wishing I was staying in q1. I'm in q5, walked pass few hot tocs and the girls were ugly.
I've been twice to Dai Nam for massages, massage was good the girls are hot but touchy.
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Ben ny tip
[QUOTE=Meo Den; 1425059]Not sure what you mean about 'tips'. I usually pay 120k to the desk and pay 100k to the girl. Sometimes they whine and pout. None of that at PNK. As you pay upon leaving. 400k total. I know for people who live there that's more but for service provided and way acuter girls it works for me. None of the girls I saw looked anywhere near 30 and I'm an old hand that has been to Asia many times.
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[QUOTE=Dragonfly22;1430983]None of that at PNK. As you pay upon leaving. 400k total. I know for people who live there that's more but for service provided and way acuter girls it works for me.[/QUOTE]To repeat, I took three different girls at the shop you mentioned last month and paid a total of 250kvnd each time. Attractive women and good service works for me too.
Of course they will ask you for more, but as long as you make it clear what you will pay there is no 'whining' from them and they are happy to see you again.
I do not live in VN, but sure enough, as more rubes are misinformed or intimidated into overpaying the whole service attitude will go south. It always does.
By all means tip the desk girl 150k or whatever if you wish, but do not tell people on this site that 'the price is 400k'.
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Enough with Bennys
This place sucks and is overrun. You guys need to check out Q. 11, Q. 3, Q. 7, and Q. 5. I also have been going out to Nha Be. I have been frequenting a coffee shop with a Cambodian waitress (no lie) from Rach Gia. She is absolutely gorgeous. Normally coffee shop girls are gross, but she is a doll. And. And. And. She sucks the best cock in Saigon. Just amazing. Branch out fellas. Quoc Lo was fun for a while too. Ugly as sin though.
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Yes Benny does suck, I'm never going back there. I hope members stop the hype and give us some good info on other places.
At least tell me what too look for when I go around if not the actual location.
I still don't know how the coffee shops work or even how to find them.
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[QUOTE=Tiger 888;1432094]Everybody in his right mind should not publish information about better places but share them by PM to trusted friends instead. Unless he wants them to do downhill like Ben Ny's.[/QUOTE]+1.
More guys are leaving the traditional p4p destinations for pastures new. They have spoiled Thailand and Cambodia and are looking East.
They flee the plague: they carry the plague.
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[QUOTE=Americanthief; 1430576]My girl wasn't working at My Friend today so I ventured to 84 NPK. Pretty good spot, small cute girl. She could speak a little English...[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Tiger 888;1432094]Everybody in his right mind should not publish information about better places but share them by PM to trusted friends instead. Unless he wants them to do downhill like Ben Ny's.[/QUOTE]I agree with NOT sharing as the places I have shared have all gone down hill, but I do wonder why american thief comes here asking that others share but himself only mentions cryptic messages like "My Friend" and BV. My knowledge only goes to My Tien and B* V*.
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For fucks sake, it was dragonfly22 and Davepuppy who exposed the exact details.
Why are you busting my balls?
At least I encrypted my report.
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I was following a thread on flat-rate brothels in Germany and somehow landed on this website so here is my first post!
There are a lot of BJ shops in HCMC and vicinity and I have personally visited a dozen. I am a local and these are my personal
Experiences, they may or may not be useful to you. You can recognize these shops when you see a sign "Hot Toc, Goi Dau" in front.
Only some actually have BJ services and not all girls will give BJ. As a local, I never have to pay up front and I can ask before the.
Session starts whether my girl will give BJ and if she doesn't, I can ask for another one or just walk out. As a rule of thumb, if.
The price of a session is 100k, the expected tip would be at least equal to the session price, I. E. 100k
So where you can find these places? There 7 on Dien Bien Phu street, on the right after crossing the bridge.
At least 2 on Nguyen Phi Khanh. 3 on D1, 3 on D2 and 1 on D5. These are most accessible from District 1 and.
Reasonably clean. There are several on Nguyen Thi Thap, Dist 7. Also on Truong Sa near Phan Van Hai and.
Hoang Sa near Tran Quoc Thao, Dist 3. Further out, there are seedier shops on Phan Van Tri, Nguyen Van Dau,
Nguyen Oanh, Go Vap District and many shops on QL 22 (National Highway 22) in Hoc Mon District. On the upper.
Scale, there are shops on Su Van Hanh, Hung Vuong and Giai Phong; these are more expensive, may include full.
Services and are frequently raided by the police so I have not visited these places. The street that has highest.
Concentration of Hoc Toc, Goi Dau is Dinh Bo Linh, Binh Thanh Dist, at least 10 shops, but as far as I know only.
Two have BJ, all the rest HJ. In general, if you are a regular, patient and generous with tip, you can get extra
Treatment in just about any shop with most girls.
I live near Binh Thanh district and I visited frequently 3 shops on DBP. 1 shop on NPK. 1 shop on D2 and 1 shop.
On Nguyen Van Dau. In each shop, I latched on just 1 girl, I give a bit more tip and I get excellent service.
I hope the above information is good enough for further exploration.
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35, 37, 49 & 51 HBT get busted yesterday as reported on newspaper. 53 of them but only 9 detained for further investigation. I guess other joint will close for a few days until this over.
Benny also in the news a few weeks back.
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Here is the news in English:
[url]http://tuoitrenews.vn/society/10811/police-bust-prostitution-ring-that-served-foreigners[/url]
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Thanks a lot PinkDong for your post.
I will check some of the adresses mentionned once there.
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Ktv
Pinkdong, thanks for the info. Will try it out in July. Do you know of any good KTV (bia om)? It does not have to be cheap. Just fun and safe.
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KTV places
If you are foreigners of Asian descent, you can try KTVs on Ngo Van Nam, Dist 1. The street is short but there are at least 10 of them, they cater to Japanese so the girls speak some English, prices high. If you can speak Vietnamese, there are a bunch at Tran Quang Khai, also Dist 1. 13 Ly Tu Trong and 82 Vo Thi Sau are known for having beautiful girls, prices also high. For wild action but less beautiful girls, you need to go further out to Binh Thanh District. D2, Bui Dinh Tuy, No Trang Long are some of the streets but you really need to go with a local. Expect to pay 1 million and up for drinks, snack / food, and tips. It can get very expensive quickly in these places.
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[QUOTE=Kodanana; 1435643]35, 37, 49 &51 HBT get busted yesterday as reported on newspaper. 53 of them but only 9 detained for further investigation. I guess other joint will close for a few days until this over.
Benny also in the news a few weeks back.[/QUOTE]Three of the four bars are owned by the same women. She, her sister and cousin were arrested. I'm going to see her family tomorrow and will post what I hear later in the day.
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Go to Bangkok
[QUOTE=AdHome01;1435852]Three of the four bars are owned by the same women. She, her sister and cousin were arrested. I'm going to see her family tomorrow and will post what I hear later in the day.[/QUOTE]I think all ISG member should give HMC a pass and go some where else like Thailand or The Phillippine instead.
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[QUOTE=AdHome01;1435852]Three of the four bars are owned by the same women. She, her sister and cousin were arrested. I'm going to see her family tomorrow and will post what I hear later in the day.[/QUOTE]All nine people are still in jail and awaiting their court date. They're going through the usual channels (for Viet Nam) to get out, but not having much luck. It doesn't seem like this is not the typical shakedown and I don't see those four bars will opening any time soon. For whatever reason, it looks like they're going to make an example out of these people.
Eddie's right, anyone who isn't experienced in Viet Nam is better off going to another country for fun.
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Sampling
Thanks for all the useful info PinkDonk, I plan to try out your recommendations when I'm back in town next week.
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Cafe oms
Hello fellow pooners, I'm having a hard time finding cafe oms and have RTFF extensively. I'm staying out near the airport so if there are any near there I would love to try one or 50 While I'm here. If any one would like to share this info with me I would appreciate it. I have been walking the streets of tan binh and know of many hot toc and cat tocs and massage parlors as well if you need any info pertaining to them. I'm a little reserved about putting to much info in the public forum due to the recent "crack downs" (pun intended) so hence no fr's.
Please send me a private message, thanks and happy pooning, LuvAsianTang
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Manila, the Philippines
Eddie is right.
HCMC or Hanoi are rip off places for sex. You will waste a lot of time searching for girls, most are bad-looking with nasty attitudes. Then you will get rip off or robbed.
I had wonderful sexy times with young, good-looking, well-mannered girls in Manila, who speak excellent English, and are good companies in and out of beds. Was touring the Phil with good-looking young girls like honeymoons. They are more fun and far less mercenary than Thai girls.
It costs very little for the company for these pretty, sweet, gentle girls of the Phil, like $30-50 a day, depending on how you negotiate.
The Phil is my favorite place.
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1435859]I think all ISG member should give HMC a pass and go some where else like Thailand or The Phillippine instead.
Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]
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KTV's in vietnam
i went to 13 ly tu trong with a few friends, a very nice, clean, upscale place. the house called in their "stars" to entertain us. these girls were below average-looking compared to ktv girls in china, thailand and the phil. they look unhealthy, some even saggy and obese, and rather angry and unhappy. they were no fun. the guys knocked down a few cognac bottles at $400 each. damn. i only chipped in to pay for part of that. i didnt feel like spending big money to impress those ugly, nasty girls.
the ktvs on cuong de have some very good-looking young girls. they all wear skin lightening lotion, so they look very pale and sick. but these places are filthy. the bathrooms stink. i had to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] into a plastic can. there were no working toilets. damn. i liked the looks of those young girls, but they looked pale and sick. i thought they were infected so did not take them to the hotel. only later i found out they were wearing skin-lightening lotion.
i had better times in hanoi's ktv. hooked up with a very beautiful and very sexy girl, fucking her silly in the hotel. was also partying with a civilian who wanted me to set her up with a business in hanoi, yeah right.
i was staying at a hotel in nhatrang. the door guy was sending girls after girls to my room for my selection. as i recall, each girl charged only 200k dong, like about $15 then. i did not have to pay the guy. he took a cut of the girls' takes. if you want sex nonstop, then take the young girls for seafood at night, this is the place to go.
i read in this forum the bars in district 1 have been raided in the last few days, the girls arrested with their owners. this is bad news for visitors to vietnam.
will be in vietnam to do some business soon. any bros knowing where to find good-looking young girls, let me know.
[quote=pinkdong;1435804]if you are foreigners of asian descent, you can try ktvs on ngo van nam, dist 1. the street is short but there are at least 10 of them, they cater to japanese so the girls speak some english, prices high. if you can speak vietnamese, there are a bunch at tran quang khai, also dist 1. 13 ly tu trong and 82 vo thi sau are known for having beautiful girls, prices also high. for wild action but less beautiful girls, you need to go further out to binh thanh district. d2, bui dinh tuy, no trang long are some of the streets but you really need to go with a local. expect to pay 1 million and up for drinks, snack / food, and tips. it can get very expensive quickly in these places.[/quote]
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I am starting to believe that Eddie is right. Benny's is still closed and the action on HBT isn't what it used to be. If I didn't have to be here for work I wouldn't come here at all. The good news is I'll be in Cebu in a week to make up for lost time. Like the sign on the Manila runway says "It's more fun in the Philippines"!
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1435859]I think all ISG member should give HMC a pass and go some where else like Thailand or The Phillippine instead.
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[QUOTE=Jimmy Boy 99;1291418]K is generally used in measurements, while M is used for numbers (number of people, amount of currency, etc.).[/QUOTE]Old post, not sure if this got settled or not, but K means 1000 and M is very standardly used (check any major news source or publisher if you have doubts) for "million". (can you find any source that backs your version?) Your idea that M means 1000 is wrong. If you use M to mean 1000, you will instead be understood to mean million by about 100% of readers. You just confuse people by doing that.
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Prostitution Ring for Foreigners Busted in HCMC
Worth a read:
[url]http://www.thanhniennews.com/index/pages/20130723-another-prostitution-ring-for-foreigners-busted-in-vietnam-city.aspx[/url]
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[QUOTE=Pak Mike; 1449728]Worth a read:
[url]http://www.thanhniennews.com/index/pages/20130723-another-prostitution-ring-for-foreigners-busted-in-vietnam-city.aspx[/url][/QUOTE]Man, this sucks! I was planning to visit Vietnam when I go to Bangkok later this year. But I guess I will stay away from 'Nam for now. Such a pity. I always have a thing for Viet girls.
Thanks for sharing.
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[QUOTE=Wendella;1449036]Old post, not sure if this got settled or not, but K means 1000 and M is very standardly used (check any major news source or publisher if you have doubts) for "million". (can you find any source that backs your version?) Your idea that M means 1000 is wrong. If you use M to mean 1000, you will instead be understood to mean million by about 100% of readers. You just confuse people by doing that.[/QUOTE]Actually, he is not "wrong". M=1,000 in a variety of contexts. If you worked in the investment field, nobody uses "k". M=1,000, mm= million. If you use "k", you are basically telling people you are new and don't know anything.
I will agree, that outside of the financial field, k is more common. But I had to chime in when you so strongly told him he was wrong. Next time, perhaps google before such a diatribe.
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Crack down
[QUOTE=D Cups;1448376]I am starting to believe that Eddie is right. Benny's is still closed and the action on HBT isn't what it used to be. If I didn't have to be here for work I wouldn't come here at all. The good news is I'll be in Cebu in a week to make up for lost time. Like the sign on the Manila runway says "It's more fun in the Philippines"![/QUOTE]To D Cup,
I am going to PI next month also heard some crack down at AC they closed down some of the bar, even they closed down half the bar in AC still the action is much better than HMC and girl are GFE not like the Viet girl with shitty attuide.
Fast Eddie 48
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[QUOTE=Waste Mgmt; 1449733]Actually, he is not "wrong". M=1, 000 in a variety of contexts. If you worked in the investment field, nobody uses "k". M=1, 000, mm= million. If you use "k", you are basically telling people you are new and don't know anything.
I will agree, that outside of the financial field, k is more common. But I had to chime in when you so strongly told him he was wrong. Next time, perhaps google before such a diatribe.[/QUOTE]Sorry I must be confused, this must be the International Investment Guide. The audience here are not stock brokers discussing the markets. In general use, K means 1000 and M means million. Source: [url]http://news.google.com[/url] (every newspaper and magazine in the world) In his posts, he kept saying that M was correct and K was wrong, which is ridiculous, then stuck to his way of doing it and confused people with it. ANyway, old news. He's not here any more.
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Spot on, Eddie. I hope the AC situation is resolved by the time I go there in December. Meanwhile it's off to Cebu on Saturday for non-stop DIA sweet Cebuana action. Hopefully our paths will cross sometime and we can compare notes over some San Migs.
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1449735]To D Cup,
I am going to PI next month also heard some crack down at AC they closed down some of the bar, even they closed down half the bar in AC still the action is much better than HMC and girl are GFE not like the Viet girl with shitty attuide.
Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Waste Mgmt;1449733]Next time, perhaps google before such a diatribe.[/QUOTE]I think you and I both know that if we go look at almost any news article that abbreviates 'thousand' or 'million' that it is going to be with K and M respectively. And I feel pretty sure the same will be true even in financial publications (Forbes, The Economist, etc. Though I guess they would abbreviate million to M and spell out the zeroes in thousand). I think we also both would agree that if you were to google, you're not going to find something written for a general audience (a non-specialized audience such as an industry newsletter for traders) that uses M for 'thousand' and MM for 'million'. This website is written for and by a general audience, not a specialized one. It includes people who speak English as a 2nd language. The problem is that about 100% of people (which includes stock traders reading something other than industry newsletters) understand M to mean million, so if he is going to use M to mean thousand, that can only cause confusion. His posts are always followed by questions about the prices he mentions, with everyone confused about what amounts he really means. So for this forum, it is wrong. It causes confusion. And he knows it causes confusion, yet continues to do it. There's no sensible reason for him to keep using M for thousand, not here at least.
I hear what you say, that in certain specific contexts it can be correct, and I believe you. The problem is that this is not one of those specific contexts. And here he creates real problems with this.
I mean, imagine if I started referring to a certain service I get at a cafe om as FS, and post here about it. It's great. Just 100, 000. And then a guy complains that he went there and requested it, then got thrown out of that cafe om, and then I say well in Bhutan, 'full service' means hand job. Technically I'm not wrong, but in practical reality I'd be an idiot.
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[QUOTE=Waste Mgmt; 1449733]Actually, he is not "wrong". M=1, 000 in a variety of contexts. If you worked in the investment field, nobody uses "k". M=1, 000, mm= million. If you use "k", you are basically telling people you are new and don't know anything.
I will agree, that outside of the financial field, k is more common. But I had to chime in when you so strongly told him he was wrong. Next time, perhaps google before such a diatribe.[/QUOTE]With a nick like waste management and he claims to be in the investment field. I'm in the investment field and I don't see why any dield would deviate from the accepted norm that K= 1000= kil, M =mega= 1mill and mm=milli= 1000 to the power of negative 1.
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Tay Ho Barber Shop
[QUOTE=Viet Lover;1420968]I was walking in the area today and stumbled across Tay Ho. I believe it is in the fourth alleyway. Another way to describe it is the alleyway across the street from the entrance to the big company behind Saigon Superbowl. Asked for pricing and the lady said 700K. I had to pass since I just had a session at Saigon Superbowl (which I am about to write about in the massage section). I will probably go back to Tay Ho for a visit. The offerings looked decent.[/QUOTE]Hau Giang street. Look for a LED sign at the beginning of a small alley. The sign is on 24/7. Directly at the end of this alley is Tay Ho. Alternative name is New Moon. Good selection and price 700k.
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[QUOTE=UncleMikey;1450351]Hau Giang street. Look for a LED sign at the beginning of a small alley. The sign is on 24/7. Directly at the end of this alley is Tay Ho. Alternative name is New Moon. Good selection and price 700k.[/QUOTE]Hi everyone,
I read today the HCMC reports here and just like to tell all of you I mean all of you.
Keep yourself back at the line I mean hey we are all here just to enjoy our time & money for sure to communicate and share Our personal feedback about Our trips and experiences With Girls, hookers, SP, etc, prices, good or worse Places we `ve been and that`s it.
I mean I was a memebr in this site since more than 14 years (other name) and many years ago I stop my membership cause it was too much for me to pay my money as a student and insted of having some good information and dialogs which in general I have to say I had & have, but yet I see some come here and try to discuss a thing so long that I lost the feeling to enjoy it any longer so step aside, today I wish to give another try and pay again my membership and read few reports and come to Vietnam forum (cause I really love it) and again I see the half of the page is just fucking shit duell about who write what and try to teach each other that. What the fuck can we get some kind of Brotherhood and respect each other and get those infos which is needed to dig the bone?
So and please a suggestion talk & write clear I don`t understand when you mention you paied 700k (for example here) what you mean sure I know in Vietnam forum and talking abou HCMC services suppose to be in Dong but how can I follow what you mean when I read in XE. USD / VND is for today: 1.00 USD = 21, 209. 34 VND sure not only me but also the new person who is not such veteran here as you are will get 100% confuse which is surely not meant as a goal for this website isn't it so?
Thanks
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VIP Barber Shop
[QUOTE=Pak Mike; 1449728]Worth a read:
[url]http://www.thanhniennews.com/index/pages/20130723-another-prostitution-ring-for-foreigners-busted-in-vietnam-city.aspx[/url][/QUOTE]VIP at Ba Vi Street.
Interestingly enough this article indicates that the rate was 500k. I was quoted 800k some weeks ago.
Perhaps there is some bad karma occurring for owner as a result of various pricing quotes to vindictive customers.
As for those of us who are mathematically challenged, the 'k' means you add on a thousand.
For those who are geographically challenged, then imagine that this FR, results from a visit to VietNam were the currency is VND.
VIP offered same quality as other shops in the same district.
Has anybody else been quoted a lower price than than I received.
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[QUOTE=MutantChicken;1450241]With a nick like waste management and he claims to be in the investment field. I'm in the investment field and I don't see why any dield would deviate from the accepted norm that K= 1000= kil, M =mega= 1mill and mm=milli= 1000 to the power of negative 1.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the laugh. Frankly LOL funny that you were challenging my credibility based upon my nick when yours is MutantChicken! That's comedy.
All that I said was that they guy wasn't 100% wrong. I agreed that 'k' is more common. BTW, for someone in the "investment field", I would have thought you'd have read an annual report or 2 along the way. It is always MM for million. Just saying.
Moving on to more important matters: I'm kind of worried about the quality of my holiday fun in HCMC given the current crackdown. I'm starting to wonder if I should bring a girl from elsewhere!
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[QUOTE=John68;1450838]So and please a suggestion talk & write clear I don`t understand when you mention you paied 700k (for example here) what you mean sure I know in Vietnam forum and talking abou HCMC services suppose to be in Dong but how can I follow what you mean when I read in XE. USD / VND is for today: 1.00 USD = 21, 209. 34 VND sure not only me but also the new person who is not such veteran here as you are will get 100% confuse which is surely not meant as a goal for this website isn't it so?[/QUOTE]700k is 700, 000 vnd, which works out to around $33 according to the rate you quote. Not sure what you mean by your final point, but I get that you prefer not to see long reports about things other than the main topic. Ok that seems like a good point. Sorry about that!
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[QUOTE=UncleMikey; 1451047]VIP at Ba Vi Street.
Interestingly enough this article indicates that the rate was 500k. I was quoted 800k some weeks ago.
Perhaps there is some bad karma occurring for owner as a result of various pricing quotes to vindictive customers.
As for those of us who are mathematically challenged, the 'k' means you add on a thousand.
For those who are geographically challenged, then imagine that this FR, results from a visit to VietNam were the currency is VND.
VIP offered same quality as other shops in the same district.
Has anybody else been quoted a lower price than than I received.[/QUOTE]No you weren't ripped off the correct price is 500k to the girl and 300k for the shop.
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[QUOTE=Waste Mgmt;1451079]Moving on to more important matters: I'm kind of worried about the quality of my holiday fun in HCMC given the current crackdown. I'm starting to wonder if I should bring a girl from elsewhere![/QUOTE]Me too, I also worry about the quality of your holiday. Maybe a 3rd option, bring a girl from elsewhere to another destination. Something is up right now, the kinds of places that are easy for non-expats to deal with are in the worst state ever these days. If you're up for the kind of fun that would lead you to this website, I'd say this is not the place to come. Unless you're really keen on seeing the Cu Chi tunnels or something.
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Tay ho
[QUOTE=UncleMikey;1450351]Hau Giang street. Look for a LED sign at the beginning of a small alley. The sign is on 24/7. Directly at the end of this alley is Tay Ho. Alternative name is New Moon. Good selection and price 700k.[/QUOTE]Not any more, I went by 2 nights in a row but the led sign is down, lights off and the gate is locked. I'm afraid tay ho is closed.
Time to head for Thailand.
LuvAsianTang.
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[QUOTE=LuvAsianTang; 1452794]Not any more, I went by 2 nights in a row but the led sign is down, lights off and the gate is locked. I'm afraid tay ho is closed.
Time to head for Thailand.
LuvAsianTang.[/QUOTE]The worst PFP scene in SE Asia has recently gotten even worse. Hard to believe but VN wants to be last in nearly every category. Of course, there is still an amazing amount of tight, young pussy to be hard but it takes more time and effort than ever.
JD
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The bullshit govenment of Vitnam
There are just a lot of bullshit in every activities every where you go in Vitnam.
The stupid guys, who run the government, are not doing shit for the people, but constantly try to get inside everyone's pants to fuck them up their asses.
In Vitnam you constantly have to look behind your back, lest the government beast crawls up your crack.
In Vitnam you are not allowed to buy or sell sex. The civies are not even good-looking, but they all want you to spend lots of money before they let you fuck their stinking pussies.
Was set up with a girl in Hanoi, went to a hotel with her. US$100 a pop. She did not even act sexy. Damn. You end up having to spend lots of time just chasing bad-looking pussies, not what I want to do with my life.
It's very frustrating. I would prefer The Phil, China or Thailand, Hong Kong any day.
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[QUOTE=Johndao; 1453566]The worst PFP scene in SE Asia has recently gotten even worse. Hard to believe but VN wants to be last in nearly every category. Of course, there is still an amazing amount of tight, young pussy to be hard but it takes more time and effort than ever.
JD[/QUOTE]I can't totally agree, these crackdowns just gets rid off all the lazy leechers who can't be bothered going off the beaten track. I for one haven't felt any impact. My usual places are still in operation, if anything maybe with all the one week millionaires gone the prices will go back to local pricing.
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Benny's and My Thien?
Gentlemen.
Can anyone advise whether Benny's and My Thien on Dien Bien Phu Street have survived the current crackdown?
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Drove by 2 days ago. They are closed. But plenty of local places to go. Had a BJ with CIM yesterday in shop off the main roads.
Service was polite but BJ was rushed. I had to stop her which she didn't appreciate. She was determined to make me pop ASAP.
Some Korean guy was there when I went to pay. He was with some tout. The manger took me into the back room to complete the transaction.
Why she did that? I think because the Korean guy was about to get scammed big time. All the girls were out for him to choose unlike with me when they don't bother even sitting up as they lie around watching stupid dramas.
I have contact info for some girls that used to work at those other places. I'm going over to her house later today for a slow wet and sloppy porn style oral creampie.
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Local BJ cafes
[QUOTE=Americanthief; 1453984]Drove by 2 days ago. They are closed. But plenty of local places to go. Had a BJ with CIM yesterday in shop off the main roads.
Service was polite but BJ was rushed. I had to stop her which she didn't appreciate. She was determined to make me pop ASAP.
Some Korean guy was there when I went to pay. He was with some tout. The manger took me into the back room to complete the transaction.
Why she did that? I think because the Korean guy was about to get scammed big time. All the girls were out for him to choose unlike with me when they don't bother even sitting up as they lie around watching stupid dramas.
I have contact info for some girls that used to work at those other places. I'm going over to her house later today for a slow wet and sloppy porn style oral creampie.[/QUOTE]Thanks for info. Do you have any addresses for local places and prices. I don't want to spoil the market.
I speak fluent Vietnamese so can haggle if needed.
Cheers
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Sorry, you don't need my help.
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BJ shops
With the amount of BJ shops in Saigon it doesn't seem feasible that they all have been closed in this crack down. I was out on Nguyen Thi That last year and saw at least 6 or so. How about out by the airport? Anyone been to NPK lately? There has to be SOME action somewhere!
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[QUOTE=Dragonfly22;1454931]With the amount of BJ shops in Saigon it doesn't seem feasible that they all have been closed in this crack down. I was out on Nguyen Thi That last year and saw at least 6 or so. How about out by the airport? Anyone been to NPK lately? There has to be SOME action somewhere![/QUOTE]Yes the whole of NTT has been shut, the airport shops closed and / or relocated, and YES tere is definately action still out there, but the ones in the know, know better than to share otehrwise their own shops will be raided, plus what is it to their benefit. I remember some people saying that making pulblic knowledge about these joints will result in nothing as the vice police don't monitor these sites and how they paying the police off blah blah. Well see what happens.
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Point I would like to make, and it revolves a slight historical story, in thats back in 2008 when I first arrived the BBBJ hot tocs in dbl was 150k, the d7 BBBJ hotoc were 200k, but there the girls get completely naked rather than the usual unclasp bra and pull down panties. Shortly after the d7 shops were posted on a English sex forum, they naturally experienced a huge influx of whites and then the price automatically became 300k non negotiable take it or leave it even for people like me who had been going tehre for 1 yr+, and this was because my vietnamese had a accent, though based on local viet sites the price was still 200k. As such I posted a request for a boycott of those places. Don't know how much influence I had, probably shit all, but the shops were no longer promoted on the ang mo sites and in time the price went back to 200k.
But now 2013, dbl and most otehr BBBJ shops the standard price is 200-250k, d7 before it was raided and closed was 200k.
What I'm trying to illustrate is that with increased exposure to foreigners, there is be a naturally increase in pricing higher and above the natural inflation.
How do I prove this, well today due to the crackdowns and due to the fact taht these well known places have been spoilt I decided to explore and what I found was I went to a hot toc where I saw a slim 20yr old with eraser like nipples and a be cup. She gave me a BBBJ and a cat bath, I was getting quite excited watching her 8/10 face licking my penis, so I asked her if I can kiss her, meaning her nipples, instead she said you can kiss this pointing at her pussy with a tiny amount of fine hair. After sile time of me licking away and I looked at her face, there she was eyes closed, licking her lips and stroking my dick. The moment was priceless, soon I asked her to go back to sucking me, and momentgs later I released into a wet towel and then she wiped me dry then rested her head on my chest. Later at the end of the alotted time, I asked her how much expecting 200k, No she said 150K.
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I am a long time poster. Even though I've had my share of disputes with other users, I think even they would admit that I've contributed quite a bit to the board over the years. I am set to be sent to HCMC for work soon and was incredibly disheartened to hear about the recent events. I don't speak the language (I can speak French, but that's useless in Vietnam nowadays) and only ever visited the well known places like Benny's and the bars on HBT in the past. I was quite careful to follow pricing and tipping rules and had a good time.
If any one local or experienced could PM me some information I would very greatly appreciate it. I'm not going to have a lot of time to deal with civilians or scam artist moto drivers after hours of work each day.
I would be more than happy to share information on any of the places I am familiar with (South Korea, Japan, Philippines, Thailand, Cambodia, Hong Kong, Dominican Republic, New York). I've also pursued the hobby in a dozen other countries and can share what I know, but I'm no expert.
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Benny's
[QUOTE=Jvdairlie; 1453938]Gentlemen.
Can anyone advise whether Benny's and My Thien on Dien Bien Phu Street have survived the current crackdown?[/QUOTE]Yes, still open yesterday, but very quiet.
I was the only customer.
My Thien was closed and padlocked.
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Both open today August 9.
Went to a different spot though
Very friendly but terrible blow job
As soon as I blew she stopped and held a baby wipe over my.
Dick. What a fucking waste.
I'm taking a long break from these places and going to
Focus on local girls. I work for a viet company.
And my salary can't afford to cum in a napkin.
I could have done that myself for crissakes.
Peace out
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I went to Benny today. Only 2 girls available.
120 VND at the entrance. I had a great girl. She started with a face massage. So I was a bit surprised. Do they start usually with a face massage? I really enjoyed it, but I wanted her taking care of my little head, what she did. I could suck her nipples. A great girl, funny and she did a very good job. I gave her 150 VND and she smiled at me.
Cheaper than a BBBJ in Bangkok in a BJ bars.
I am pretty sure there are some others hot toc in the street Phan Van Han just after the bridge.
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I don't know if full field reports are necessary right now. Think about what has been happening over the last few weeks. It's probably best to just announce reopening when they occur. It's already known what goes on in these shops here.
The internet makes things easy enough, both for mongers and those who are against mongering. Exercise some discretion and stick to private messaging when required.
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Here's a quick summary of non q1 alternatives.
I been going to a pheripheral cafe om with BBBJ for a bit using the same gal a 22yr with a 6mth old child she is slim but for what ever reason her vagina is quite dry and her breast a bit saggy ie lost it's tone with child birth. The positives is that she is quite attractive a 7, she is hard working uses her mouth 90% of the time only uses her hand to give her mouth a break and before the finish. Hs then lies next to me cuddling.
But like anything I have gotton bored of her, further her particular area is being investigated by the police so I need to go to her shop which is unstaffed and then the guy will guide me to the secret location nearby. Which is a bit of a hassle. Cost 100k including a drink.
Today I had a date in another peripheral district, after the date I decided to try another hot toc in the area, the last time I was here I had a cute gal in her early 20's give me a good BJ with plenty of groping for 150k, so this time I noticed another pretty gal also about a 6.5-7, but upon closer inspection she is clearly older. Mid 20's.
This girl was very clinical. Only allows frontal access to the pussy whilst backing her ass away. So if you guys are familiar with female anatomy, you will know its hard to touch anything exect the pubic bone area and the bush etc, she allowed acces to her breast, with encouragement she did a decent BBBJ, and wants grumpy. And I came after about 15mins. Again 150k. Can't complain about the price.
Driving home I saw some cafes I have tried in the past, cost 120k. Normally as this area is further away than my usual area I don't normally go here, but due to the operation in the other area I thought I'd go in and have a look. WOW the girls here are quite pretty 6-7s, this is better than the usual 4-6's. And bets of all the room is cleaner and has aircon. Imagine some of plainer girls at the SYT cafe, these girls will give you a good BBBJ and cim for 120k, the gal I chose had the firm perky gravity defying be cups only found on 18yr old, she licked my sharf and balls and overall gave me a excellent time, again with makeup and darkness I would give her a 7.
So over all if you like BBBJ and you have a bike as thes eplaces would be 300k taxi ride and you know the location, its possible to get decent BBBJ for 5-8 USD. No need to pay 1.2 mill for a HJ.
Thanks and have fun.
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[QUOTE=MutantChicken;1462671]So over all if you like BBBJ and you have a bike as thes eplaces would be 300k taxi ride and you know the location, its possible to get decent BBBJ for 5-8 USD. No need to pay 1.2 mill for a HJ.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately few of us know the location and you want the rest of us to give you $100 US for a tour. Please stop posting.
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In my own defense
i have asked cimgong not to post anything in support of me as that would only add fire to the accusation i am using clones to support myself but i'm sure if the moderator was to check ip address the will see the truth. secondly this will be the last post concerning this matter if the moderator wishes me to stop posting then i will. regarding the matter of my so called useless reports the form of my reports ie lacking address hasn't changed in over 2years before that i definately provided info by pm to both johndao, hcmmik and another dude just now i am not willing to do that without either compensation or exchange of information. what is hypocritical is that rick rock himself suggests not to provide info openly seconly whilst asking me originally for information he praised me for my reports as did volpone. only when i refused to provide info as it was clear they didn't have anything i wanted and i asked for conpensation of my time did they react negatively. note the style of my reports have not changed in 3years. wendella who i have invited for coffee and a exchange of intell refused as i can only assume because he is a english teacher and he is worried about discover of his hobby. nevertheless he has been pm me for information which i provided by confirm or denials. and as he cannot get info from me he has joined the choir. those who have claimed my reports useless i can contradict that my saying my posts firstly gives the exact local pricing futher it confirms the alternatives rather than benny etc etc. no to look at how useful the posts of the supposed serious posters are rick rock last few posts are to attack me or request info. volpone says he went to benny and over paid. american thief tells about him fucking for free his 18yr old gf. getting a bj somewhere where he had to cum into a napkin. deliberate misinformation saying myfriend rather than mytien. going to bv and it being a ripp off. and then wendella now with his fav hbt bars gone he has gone quiet. so lets be adults about this the calls to ban me are the result of sourgrapes that i won't provide info. if what i was doing was wrong why didn't you speak up before.
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[QUOTE=MutantChicken;1463069]I'm sure if the moderator was to check ip address the will see the truth.[/QUOTE]Meaningless. Proxies and VPNs can take care of that.
The only thing more worthless than your recent posts are your sock puppets.
Before you were providing info and not asking money for it. Or if you were asking money, I didn't know about it.
This board is based on good will. We give info when we have it, request info when we need it. I've brought a ton of new spots to this board. Not in places you want to monger but that shouldn't matter.
Why don't you head back to the other Singapore boards were guys talk about everything except mongering? Or are you already banned there?
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I had personal business near d9 so I thought I'd revisit it and a few other nearby streets, this is what I found. Yes the barbar shops are still spread out, I went there at 3pm, so it was quite hard to look inside so I don't know how attractive the girls are, I saw 3-4 possible locations, more on other streets than the one mentioned. Again given the cost 200 vs 150k, and the distance to q11 I wouldn't male it a habit of going here.
I found 3 cafe BJ place. 2 had decent looking gals ie in there 20's slim and 6pointers. Cost for a drink and a BBBJ I CIM but it was like the initial hit only. 130k.
If I lived closer I would go more frequently but given the distance and the extra 10k I wouldn't make a habit of cumming to this area. But then given the crack downs, its better to know of alternatives right.
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I have heard a few guys make the excuse that the can't recce new places as they don't have the time it doesn't matter that they have been comming here since 2007 staying for a week and comming once a month.
I show you what 5 hours can do. So I let the cafe I go to at 4pm, filled my bike worth 50k of petrol and I went for a ride, close to one hour later I arrived at the street thanks to google map, by this time it was dark so it was clear to see which cafe were cafe om, I road up that street for about 2 km so I had a good idea what shops had the beter looking gals.
The first shop I went to I eyed a gal. Turns out to be 22yrs old slim small size a cups very tight pussy. I go to the back after have a drink and I confirm the price, she says its 100k. She then said that if she did it "nhiet tinh" will I give her a extra 30k. I joked back that she just do it to the best of her ability and ill tip her what I think its worth. This joking went back and forth 5 mins. Finally I said just do it as time running out. She was a real good bargainer. Anyway the BJ was pretty good all mouth and continous, so even tho she tried to bargain it was all in good fun. 130k for a 6.5 pointer good BJ, tight wet pussy and I got some more intell from her.
I then went to another cafe next. This one was set up different with hammocks. And in the past this style offered some FS. Again tere was a decent looking gal but she said no sex available. But cost drink was 15k.
Next I hit up some locals guys to see if they knew where I can get sex rather than just BJ, I hit him leaving a cafe. Again no luck.
Finally I hot up a xe om guy. And he pointed me int the right direction. Unfortunately the girls were older and in my eyes unattractive, tho in hindsight they werent any worse than some of the girls I have seen being paraded as gf of samsters I have met. Cost 300k for a fuck in a upstairs loft. Didn't look fun.
Then I drove home and I counted prob 20 other cafe oms in that 20km ride home, but before I reached home I saw a 7. 5pointer, turns out she was 28, but she had genuine see cups on a small frame. I definately had to try that. Cost 120k, decent BJ ball licking but more HJ than I'd like, aslo she claimed to be getting her period so pussy was off limites but great ass and great tits, so I came in the end.
I got home at 9pm, with a empty petrol tank and information on 15-20 new places and first hand info on 3. So that guy who I'm refering to, and you know who you are. Seems like its just laziness and that you want someone else to do the work so you can leech off. Surely you don't think by offering to buy me a coffee, that I would share that info just like that.
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First visit to Vietnam
Hi, any tips info on places to go and do would be highly appreciated. Would seek advice from seniors in the forum to provide some tips! Will be in Ke Ga Lighthouse Phan Thiet and HCMC between 1st October and 9th!
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Benny's
Is Benny's back to normal now? Any recent reports appreciated.
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[QUOTE=D Cups;1477945]Is Benny's back to normal now? Any recent reports appreciated.[/QUOTE]I don't know what normal means to you. If normal was how it was last year, it definitely did not go back to normal. If normal means, it is open and you can get a BBBJ for cheap, then yes. The quality + quantity of girls is significantly lower than last year. I remember young, cute girls that gave great service. The two times I went in August, there was 3-4 girls working max and they were gross. The service was fine, just no eye candy. I actually had great service and the girl was way better looking just down the road at My Thien? I forget the name. But if you're looking at Benny, go right and its only a few store / houses down. The number might be 115 or something close to that.
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[QUOTE=Appolyon;1478067]I don't know what normal means to you. If normal was how it was last year, it definitely did not go back to normal. If normal means, it is open and you can get a BBBJ for cheap, then yes. The quality + quantity of girls is significantly lower than last year. I remember young, cute girls that gave great service. The two times I went in August, there was 3-4 girls working max and they were gross. The service was fine, just no eye candy. I actually had great service and the girl was way better looking just down the road at My Thien? I forget the name. But if you're looking at Benny, go right and its only a few store / houses down. The number might be 115 or something close to that.[/QUOTE]OK thanks Appolyon.
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My Tien and Benny's
My Tien seems closed down.
Benny's is still open but its definitely not the same place as before. Basically legit.
Seems like there was a big shakedown cause none of these places are open anymore.
Just FYI
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My Tien is out of business. Sign removed and building materials in their front entrance, bricks, panels, steel and such.
Ben Ny's sucks so much these days. Overrun by foreigners with no respect or manners, not mention no more cubicles or privacy. Everything is out in the open, you can see everything going down. It's very uncomfortable. Some guys from Singapore were strutting around last weekend bragging about how they only tip 100 because they are superior over Vietnamese race. Reminded me of Korean men to be honest. Time to venture out and explore as Mutant Chicken advised. I've seen some places around Phu Nhuan area I think have promise. Also, I know some girls from bar 51. They are freelance now under me.
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Sad Scene
It's a pretty sad public scene out there right now as recent posts attest. However, as Mutant Chicken has written, if you take the time and go a considerable distance from the center and can speak some Vietnamese, there is stuff out there. But it does take a lot of work and it's hot and dusty and not everyone has the time or is up to it. I think everyone's best bet is to find a friend or two or three and make your personal arrangements. This won't really help short-time visitors who still have few if any options. BTW, you don't have to be shy about making offers to girls here as they won't usually be offended as girls back home. If you see they are attractive and working in what you know is a very low paying job, be friendly and see what's possible.
JD
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Other spots
As I remember weren't there some spots further down on DBP? Same side of the street just closer to the turn around. I vaguely remember seeing 2 places but they looked abit run down compared to BeNy and MyTien. Not that they were top of the line. How about 84 NPK. Still open?
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Unhappy with what's available I went back to NPK. It was like an opium den. Girls passed out, lying around as if. Service wasn't bad, but girl quality was poor. Old and ugly or young and fat was the choice. They also fear the raid; Hurry upstairs, quickly out the door, paying was like an undercover operation. Don't go.
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I can report that from my recent Tay Ho Barber Shop experience that business is back to 'normal'. In that FS service available. Price now VND 800k. Found a girl that I have meet before, no sign of any anxiousness or anxiety from her or any other staff. A great service provided.
A tour of other shops in the area showed that doors are open for business.
Enjoy
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Some weeks ago, I ventured into an outer suburb Hoc Toc, asking for a hair cut (really).
I was definatively told that a hair cut was not available but I could have massage!
So I took up the offer and a massage soon turned into a HJ and then a BBBJ.
Some mutual touching turned into FS, me nude with all my next door neighbours receiving BJs. Lots of slurping and moaning. Good service, no fuss, straight to business.
Unfortunately I still needed to find a Hoc Toc which provided a hair cut, which was subsequently achieved!
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[QUOTE=UncleMikey; 1493567]I can report that from my recent Tay Ho Barber Shop experience that business is back to 'normal'. In that FS service available. Price now VND 800k. Found a girl that I have meet before, no sign of any anxiousness or anxiety from her or any other staff. A great service provided.
A tour of other shops in the area showed that doors are open for business.
Enjoy[/QUOTE]You don't seem to have private messaging capability with your account.
Tay Ho? Where is this one? (airport area? If so, which street? Or even if not, which street?)
In your other post up here you mention going to an outer suburb hot toc, but no details of location.
I hope you can share some info with us.
Thanks!
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Tay Ho MP is in the airport area, price is now 800 for any places in that area.
I think the bribery money jsut got a lot higher nowadays. It was only 600k 15 months ago. It is still a good deal tho, no haggle, fixed price and you get choices.
Be aware of Mutantchicken, instead of paying 800, you will have to pay 2 mil or 2.5 mil when you go with him.
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[QUOTE=Starsboo; 1495767]Tay Ho MP is in the airport area, price is now 800 for any places in that area.
I think the bribery money jsut got a lot higher nowadays. It was only 600k 15 months ago. It is still a good deal tho, no haggle, fixed price and you get choices.
Be aware of Mutantchicken, instead of paying 800, you will have to pay 2 mil or 2. 5 mil when you go with him.[/QUOTE]Any streetname? Where is Tay Ho exactly?
Can someone give indications where to go in the Tan Binh district? What street are the bbs?
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I went with Mutant Chicken a couple months ago.
I think I paid 800. I covered MC's cost as well, so it was a little over 1.5mil. It seemed fair to me since he picked me up, brought me there, dropped me off, etc.
If you can find your own way there and are comfortable walking in and doing everything yourself. 800k is about right.
If you can't, I'm sure Starsboo would be willing to bring you there for free.
[QUOTE=Starsboo; 1495767]Tay Ho MP is in the airport area, price is now 800 for any places in that area.
I think the bribery money jsut got a lot higher nowadays. It was only 600k 15 months ago. It is still a good deal tho, no haggle, fixed price and you get choices.
Be aware of Mutantchicken, instead of paying 800, you will have to pay 2 mil or 2. 5 mil when you go with him.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=CimgOng;1496947]I went with Mutant Chicken a couple months ago. I think I paid 800. I covered MC's cost as well, so it was a little over 1.5mil. It seemed fair to me since he picked me up, brought me there, dropped me off, etc.[/QUOTE]If you're interested in a ride to the airport, let me know, I'd be more than happy to give you a slightly lower price. ;.)
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[QUOTE=CimgOng; 1496947]I went with Mutant Chicken a couple months ago.
I think I paid 800. I covered MC's cost as well, so it was a little over 1. 5mil. It seemed fair to me since he picked me up, brought me there, dropped me off, etc.
If you can find your own way there and are comfortable walking in and doing everything yourself. 800k is about right.
If you can't, I'm sure Starsboo would be willing to bring you there for free.[/QUOTE]LOL, a "confirmed" customer from Mutant Chicken, or is that MC himself? So now the offered price is lower heh?
I has been helping other newbies w / o any reimbursements and I am sure there are others who do the same things. We won't lower ourselves to a pimp level to suck on working girls' blood.
Ok here is my promise: As long as you purchase the subscription and give me a pm, I will offer noobs free rides, period. Not "over 1. 5 mil", it is 800k like everyone else.
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Open for business
Try looking in Hau Giang St, Ba Vi st, and close by Thang Long St. Look for Barber Shop.
As for Hoc Toc in outer suburbs, I suggest you venture out in any any direction, and try for yourself.
[QUOTE=Wendella; 1494024]You don't seem to have private messaging capability with your account.
Tay Ho? Where is this one? (airport area? If so, which street? Or even if not, which street?)
In your other post up here you mention going to an outer suburb hot toc, but no details of location.
I hope you can share some info with us.
Thanks![/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=UncleMikey; 1497743]Try looking in Hau Giang St, Ba Vi st, and close by Thang Long St. Look for Barber Shop.
As for Hoc Toc in outer suburbs, I suggest you venture out in any any direction, and try for yourself.[/QUOTE]Yes I think that that is a good guideline. I have been checking out those streets last days and it's for sure the place to go.
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DBP st.
Not much happening out on DBP and didn't find a sign or a light on for Be Ny or My Tien so I skirted the area and headed to NPK which I like much better anyway but farther out. Still 400k total. 20 girls to choose from but great skills. Not rushed and no badgering for more tips. Pay as you leave. Mostly 20-25yo 6-8 in looks. Did I mention the skill set these girls have? Some of the best BJ'S I've ever had.
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[QUOTE=Dragonfly22;1499581]Not much happening out on DBP and didn't find a sign or a light on for Be Ny or My Tien so I skirted the area and headed to NPK which I like much better anyway but farther out. Still 400k total. 20 girls to choose from but great skills. Not rushed and no badgering for more tips. Pay as you leave. Mostly 20-25yo 6-8 in looks. Did I mention the skill set these girls have? Some of the best BJ'S I've ever had.[/QUOTE]I went to DBP last week.
My Tien is 100% shut down. They had a sign they reloacted to NPK.
Ben Ny is still there but probably 10x worst than before. No lineup, and no curtains for privacy.
May I ask which number shop you went to on NPK? My experience in NPK has always been bad, the mamasan pushing to overcharge.
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[QUOTE=Lylaster; 1500073]I went to DBP last week.
My Tien is 100% shut down. They had a sign they reloacted to NPK.
Ben Ny is still there but probably 10x worst than before. No lineup, and no curtains for privacy.
May I ask which number shop you went to on NPK? My experience in NPK has always been bad, the mamasan pushing to overcharge.[/QUOTE]What do you mean by 'overcharge'? They will all try for whatever they can get.
For reference, I pay 250k at Phu Gia and Tuan Tam, paid 300k once at Quynh Ahn. They insist on 300k from me at Tuan Thanh because I paid it on my first visits and they won't back down so they lost my custom. A friend pays 200k there. Hoang Duc seems like a waste of time.
All of these prices are totals including desk fee, money to girl and so-called 'tips'.
I agree the price at the desk when I enter and pay the full amount to the desk on the way out. Make sure that you have established the total you will pay. If they try to move the price on you after the act get one of the door guys in and tell him to sort them out. You don't need to speak Vietnamese to successfully communicate this.
Note that it is very difficult to reduce the price from what you first paid.
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[QUOTE=Lylaster; 1500073]I went to DBP last week.
My Tien is 100% shut down. They had a sign they reloacted to NPK.
Ben Ny is still there but probably 10x worst than before. No lineup, and no curtains for privacy.
May I ask which number shop you went to on NPK? My experience in NPK has always been bad, the mamasan pushing to overcharge.[/QUOTE]Hi Guys,
Sorry to ask but what street name is NPK exactly? Full written name?
Thanks
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[QUOTE=GentleBright; 1500311]Hi Guys,
Sorry to ask but what street name is NPK exactly? Full written name?
Thanks[/QUOTE]At the top of the page you see abbreviations? Clic it and scroll to regional abbreviations, almost to the bottom of the page.
You'll find what you need there.
Happy hunting, LAT
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Report: December 28, 2013.
After doing some research and translating as best google can, I decided to go to a local place as reported by Vietnamese journalists. It was reported there was a row, a group, an alley full, of barbershops at DBL & N Xi in BT district.
So I headed out at 1pm and drove around, and around in all the side streets, alleys, parallel and perpendicular and I couldn't find a single "Hot Toc" that provided service. So after an hour and a half I gave up and headed down DBP, but I wan't going to the popular place that everyone goes to. I decided to try Kanh Linh. Upstairs was dark, very dark and uncomfortable. I couldn't see the chair or the girl. There service was terrible. Again it was a handjob with the tip of my dick in her mouth, and after a while and some ridiculous jerking I half heartedly came, and the girl quickly threw a napkin over my dick to make sure none got in her mouth or on her body. By far the worst service I've had in Vietnam. Oh, I also had to pay 300, 000.
So I don't care if you fools rush out to this place and over pay and drive the market prices up and ruin it for all the rest of us locals. I'm never going back there. I'm sticking to what I know and to hell with saving 100, 000. I'm paying extra to stay near my home.
Because as I was driving around I saw 3 accidents. The traffic was sketchy. Big trucks and busses driving very aggressively with no care for motorbikes. I saw one bike hit an old lady on a bicycle, one hit a pedestrian, and the last was a bus running over a guy.
Yes, this guy turn left into traffic without looking right as they all do, but this time it was a bus and with all its inertia, it couldn't stop in time. The man did a kung-fu leg spin reverse off his bike in time for him to avoid death and to watch his honda get crushed. It made this loud crunch sound as the parts were compromised between the pavement and bus.
So I'm a bit angry and have resentments, and if you want to go to Kanh Linh be my guest. It's 200 meters down from the famous B place.
And if anyone can PM me a better place, please. I can't go aimless wandering around anymore.
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[QUOTE=AmericanThief;1510278]Went to NPK today because it was rush hour and didn't want to travel far. I got a HJ with my dick in a girls mouth.[/QUOTE]Tuan Thanh is closed. Many of the staff have moved across to Tuan Tam and they told me the price (total) has gone up to 300kvnd.
They are still charging me 250k at Phu Gia, but one girl did ask for extra.
There's a newer (?) place near the Vo Thi Sau end, poor selection, similar to Quynh Anh, mama demanding 400k.
Mostly it's a HJ with your dick in the girl's mouth as described above, although I was luckier with girls I knew from before.
Advertised on the internet prices go up service and attitudes go down.
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After visiting family and getting to HCMC late yesterday, I decided to go for a R&T at Flamingo Spa based on a report earlier.
380k ticket and 300k for the HJ. If you're after a legit massage, go here. I had intended for that but girl was cute so went for a HJ.
13B Le Thanh Ton Street, District 1, Ho Chi Minh City is the address.
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[QUOTE=MrTran; 1529749]After visiting family and getting to HCMC late yesterday, I decided to go for a R&T at Flamingo Spa based on a report earlier.
380k ticket and 300k for the HJ. If you're after a legit massage, go here. I had intended for that but girl was cute so went for a HJ.
13B Le Thanh Ton Street, District 1, Ho Chi Minh City is the address.[/QUOTE]Very expensive for a HJ. 700k should be enought to get a hour with a hot girl. A HJ should be round 400k max for hot ones.
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Went to Benny's at 12PM yesterday.
Took a taxi from my hotel A&them on 280 Le Than Ton St, cost me 120K.
Prices have gone up, ticket price was 150k on the pricelist.
Paid it, went up 3 flights of stairs or so. Went to back corner room, she had a nice rack and average BJ skills but no CIM.
Would come again if I was wound for longer.
Tipped 230K
Exact address is 110 Dien Bien Phu, PH17, Binh Thanh District. Ensure that you mentiokn P17, otherwise drivers may now know where it is due to 2 110's in that district (based on what my driver told me).
Cheers
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[QUOTE=MrTran; 1530016]Went to Benny's at 12PM yesterday.
Took a taxi from my hotel A&them on 280 Le Than Ton St, cost me 120K.
Prices have gone up, ticket price was 150k on the pricelist.
Paid it, went up 3 flights of stairs or so. Went to back corner room, she had a nice rack and average BJ skills but no CIM.
Would come again if I was wound for longer.
Tipped 230K.
Exact address is 110 Dien Bien Phu, PH17, Binh Thanh District. Ensure that you mentiokn P17, otherwise drivers may now know where it is due to 2 110's in that district (based on what my driver told me).
Cheers[/QUOTE]Went there today. There seemed to be 3 girls there. Mine was cute and short, with a decent ass and tits. The setup of laying on the thing they put you on is a little weird, especially when you're right next to another dude (albeit through a screen). But the BBBJCIM was pretty great. Even though it is pricier than before, it is still a better deal than the BJ bars in BKK.
I'll probably be back a few more times before I leave next week.
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[QUOTE=Eddie Munster; 1530316]Went there today. There seemed to be 3 girls there. Mine was cute and short, with a decent ass and tits. The setup of laying on the thing they put you on is a little weird, especially when you're right next to another dude (albeit through a screen). But the BBBJCIM was pretty great. Even though it is pricier than before, it is still a better deal than the BJ bars in BKK.
I'll probably be back a few more times before I leave next week.[/QUOTE]Hey Eddie,
When you say you are separated by a screen. Is the screen on all 4 sides? Or is the screen just covering your left and right side with an open front? In Thailand I have been in bars where guys would be getting a BBBJ in plain site. Of course these things would happen when there are very few people in the bar. I don't thing it would happen if it was crowded.
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[QUOTE=TomSf; 1531942]Hey Eddie,
When you say you are separated by a screen. Is the screen on all 4 sides? Or is the screen just covering your left and right side with an open front? In Thailand I have been in bars where guys would be getting a BBBJ in plain site. Of course these things would happen when there are very few people in the bar. I don't thing it would happen if it was crowded.[/QUOTE]The screens covers your left and right with an open front. There are many stalls so customers are usually separated.
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Went back to NPK today. Tried a different place, just took a shot. Same deal, ugly girls sitting around playing Candy Crush on their phones. Upstairs to a room, curtains only separating 3 tables. I'm the only customer in the room though.
She complained that I was too big. He mouth / jaw was tired and it hurt. Furious hand job with my dick head in her mouth. Silly whining noises from her. Someone came into the room, she checked up and continued. This went on forever.
Ticket after was 200, 000 and tip up to me, but they pestered me for the usual amount. My stupid ever present American optimism that I'm going to find that "one," which I have on occasion, but eventually they quit and go back home, and so on and so forth.
Haven't found one in a long time. The one that does it right.
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Bennys Location
[QUOTE=Kuranyi; 1539509]After finding the exact adress tried to find bennys on 90 dien bien phu at around 10pm. Crossed the bridge over the river but found nothing there.
Told my driver to find another place around 200-300k for a BJ. He had no clue at all. Overall extremely frustrating and wasted 230k just on the taxi. I really wished I had found one of these superbushy local viet girls.[/QUOTE]Though I have never entered, I have seen the spot. I believe the correct address is 110 DBP. I believe there is a white sign with "Bennys" lettered in purple.
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[QUOTE=Kuranyi; 1539509]After finding the exact adress tried to find bennys on 90 dien bien phu at around 10pm. Crossed the bridge over the river but found nothing there.
Told my driver to find another place around 200-300k for a BJ. He had no clue at all. Overall extremely frustrating and wasted 230k just on the taxi. I really wished I had found one of these superbushy local viet girls. ([/QUOTE]You come from dist 1 to Dien Bien Phu? Should be 110 dbp. Anyway 10pm too late already, their opening hours around 9-10pm. Best to go early noon.
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[QUOTE=MutantChicken; 1542241]Most guys have heard about cafe om, but most haven't tried so I'll do my best to give a good FR of the one I went to today, this one has a aircon room. 3 partitions two with a massage table the other a mattress on the floor, normally has 4-5 girls. 2 are fatties, the other slim mid 20's, the last is a solid 7 19yrs old. Guess who my girl is. This is my 3rd time with her she is very sexually and lives having her pussy eaten. First time was just your standard BBBJ, the second BBBJ cim and I was sneaky brought a condom and convinced her to fuck, though I did all the work in missionary and scissors, this time today she rode me cowboy and reverse cowboy before finishing me by mouth. The normal cost is 120k for a 20-30min session, that's what I paid 1st time, second time with the fucking I paid 200k.
Today even though she wants initially keen to fuck but whilst I was gettinga BJ I fingered her till she got so excited and tried to mount me, lucky I came prepared so with a few second delay, today I had to ask for two session so even with her tip it just cost 300k for a 1hr session, with a BBBJ, me eating her pussy and making her cum, she then riding me and a another BBBJ CIM finish.
Great value and sexciting hour all for 15usd. Only in Vietnam. This is compard to the one position no BJ dry fucking in did in Phnom Penh also for 15usd.[/QUOTE][blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]
For everyone else, check 252A Ly Thai To, long time / old time HT / BnG, high cost 500K compared to Benny's, girls about the same but perhaps closer for many and something different.
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[QUOTE=Tespest;1566176]Hi members of this thread,
I'm not new to Vietnam, and certainly not new to mongering. But considering how fast the mongering landscape changes in hcmc, its hard for me to keep track of information.
I'll be in HCMC 23. 26 May, alone.
Would appreciate any help on the following:
BJ cafe.
Blow and go.
If you could just offer me street names, I could go look for specific places. Tried asking mutant chicken but was quoted 25per hr.
Your help is much appreciated.
Thanks all.[/QUOTE]My experience last week:
-Tach Thi Than: 4 BJ massages in the street (to be verified), I've tried 2 of them, 200 VND + Tip 200 VND and 300 VND + 200 VND tip.
-Hai Ba Trung in front of the Le Van Tam park at night some street workers, +-6, quite old but 1 or 2 ok, 500 VND + short time hotel 100 VND.
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Happy to pay a guide
I have just arrived in HCMC. First time in VN, first time in Asia! - but my brother who was supposed to meet me here had to return to UK. So I know nobody.
Is there anyone who for a fee would 'show me the ropes'? As well as the obvious I'm interested in the historical POIs. Knowledge of the French background would be especially interesting (but I think I am pushing my luck now).
Please PM me if you can help, or suggest someone who might be interested.
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I'm deleting any posts that don't have a address for a hot toc / blow and go or even MP and FSMP.
I can't believe how bad this thread turned out. So much bickering over 1 poster who we all know won't share without something in it for himself.
There are plenty of other places to discover.
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[QUOTE=MikHcmc;1570689]
I can't believe how bad this thread turned out. So much bickering over 1 poster who we all know won't share without something in it for himself.[/QUOTE]Why not put him to rest?
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Basic Roundup for Tourists/Newbies
First thing that must be said: "It's not great here now." The HBT hostess-for-hire bars got clamped down on last year and have not recovered. There are 2 of them that are still semi-worth a look now: Bin Bin at 13 Le Thanh Ton (I think that's the address) and another little one on on Nguyen Sieu street off of HBT, next to a restaurant (its a very short street, can't miss it). The rest of them are not really worth even poking your head in. There's Apocalypse Now on Thi sach near there, freelancers, not cheap. The discos and nightclubs are tough nuts to crack as a tourist. Also expensive nuts to crack. The backpacker area has a bunch of bars with over-priced mediocre looking ones, Do Quang Dau street has a few of them, and around the corner on De Tham has more. Hate to even mention these places because I doubt you'll find something decent there. I hear they're asking silly prices now in these backpacker places.
What some say are the best spots by far would be the massage places up near the airport. If you PM enough guys you will get those exact addresses for free. (if you PM the wrong guy, you will get a price quote of $100 or so for the same info) Ba Vi street has a couple of them (VIP and 4 Seasons). Hau Giang has at least one more (New Moon). If you find those streets, you should find the places. The streets are on Google Maps, they're in Tan Binh district. And one note, I haven't been up there in a couple months, so it's possible those places moved. (Can anyone confirm, or have current info?) There are also some side streets in Phu My Hung near Sky Garden that have more of these places at a slightly higher price. They're mostly in the back away from the main street Nguyen Van Linh. A bunch of them were closed recently, but there are still a few in there.
There's a hostess bar called VIC that is on one of the side streets off of Cach Mang Thang 8 street, it's either Ho Xuan Huong or else Ngo Thoi Nhiem. The girls are expensive to take out (price always changing, and I haven't been there in a long time), and you have to be really wary of bill-padding, but they usually have a decent selection.
There's a few spots around town with BJ massage / hot toc, Nguyen Phi Khanh in the north of D1 was a street that has at least one. (Address, guys? This isn't a place I go to. 84?) There's plenty of info about Benny's on Dien Bien Phu in Binh Thanh district. There are also MANY around town that do only HJ. In that case they often will cuddle with you on your little bed, some groping allowed, so it's not as bad as it sounds.
But honestly, if pickups are your goal, this place is a mistake if you can go to Thailand instead. Even Cambodia is better now. (and it's much worse there than it was in the early 2000's, but Vietnam / HCMC is a LOT worse than it used to be, it passed Phnom Penh on the way down).
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Addresses please!
[QUOTE=Niouts;1569977]My experience last week:
-Tach Thi Than: 4 BJ massages in the street (to be verified), I've tried 2 of them, 200 VND + Tip 200 VND and 300 VND + 200 VND tip.
-Hai Ba Trung in front of the Le Van Tam park at night some street workers, +-6, quite old but 1 or 2 ok, 500 VND + short time hotel 100 VND.[/QUOTE]Can you provide the full address for Tach Thi Than? Or at least landmarks or something?
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Private workers
Does anyone have any experience with any of the 'private' workers who advertise in CL? Eg: Rose?
I'm interested in getting a private girl to my room this week, but wary of rip offs and poor quality. Any experience welcome, and any particular recommendations also very welcome. On here or via PM.
Thanks all.
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[quote=caseystar;1572155]does anyone have any experience with any of the 'private' workers who advertise in cl? eg: rose?
i'm interested in getting a private girl to my room this week, but wary of rip offs and poor quality. any experience welcome, and any particular recommendations also very welcome. on here or via pm.
thanks all[/quote]i met rose last week. she is mad as a hatter (large glasses that stayed on until quite late in the procedures) and a loudish squawk in lieu of intelligible speech. however, she did give me a good natural oral, and then protected 'boum boum' (should that be double o's? the trick is not to let her manner cause droop. she quietens and looks away as the deed reaches fruition.
so overall, can recommend. not like the disastrous punt tonight with someone different (total robot, no warmth or recognition that there was a sentient human next to her).
i met the guy who has been blackballed by this forum. his knowledge of this town is formidable, capably described (he's a lawyer so good with words). i have no problem paying for a person's knowledge and experience. it's called the knowledge economy (duh). unfortunately he's out of the country for a month. so i'm playing blind and wasting money.
if you find a good one, please let me know.
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[QUOTE=HugFrancis;1572376]I met Rose last week.
I met the guy who has been blackballed by this forum. [/QUOTE]The guy's been reincarnated as HF.
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[QUOTE=Alleno151;1571841]Can you provide the full address for Tach Thi Than? Or at least landmarks or something?[/QUOTE]The street name is Thạch Thị Thanh, Q. 1. You can google map it.
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Snatching
[QUOTE=Whisper1;1572616]The street name is Thạch Thị Thanh, Q. 1. You can google map it.[/QUOTE]Hold the phone firmly when you googling.
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Maps
I remember having seen a post (few years ago) where one of the members here had some maps of HCMC where the hot toc areas were marked on these maps.
Now I'm about to go to HCMC and can't find those maps in this thread.
I have also looked in reports of distinction but also no luck there. Anyone?
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[QUOTE=HugFrancis;1572376]I met the guy who has been blackballed by this forum. His knowledge of this town is formidable, capably described (he's a lawyer so good with words). I have no problem paying for a person's knowledge and experience. It's called the Knowledge Economy (duh). Unfortunately he's out of the country for a month. So I'm playing blind and wasting money.[/QUOTE]The guy does seem to have a lot of knowledge, you are right about that. He hasn't been blackballed though. The moderator of this thread doesn't have the power to ban members (if that is what you mean), so as far as I know his account is still active. What irks a lot of long time members is that he only shares info for payment. He posts reports here as if he's a normal member sharing info, in order to lure mainly new members to send hm a PM where the sales pitch begins. The expectation of this site is that members will share info for free, that's its purpose, so if someone pays for a subscription just to find out that they then have to pay a lot more for info from this guy (typical reaction is WTF), that's not cool. He's pretending to be one of us normal members sharing info in order to trick newbies into sending him PM's and starting his sales pitch. Forum rules are that there's no advertising in the non-advertising threads, but that's what he's really doing. His FR's are effectively ads. And they have been leading to non-stop bickering in this VN section for a very long time now. What's more he's pretty damn rude in PM's, which clearly violates forum rules.
By the way, I drove past that VIC bar that I mentioned in a recent post. It's at 55 Ho Xuan Huong, just off of CMT8.
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[QUOTE=HugFrancis;1572376]
I met the guy who has been blackballed by this forum. His knowledge of this town is formidable, capably described (he's a lawyer so good with words). I have no problem paying for a person's knowledge and experience. It's called the Knowledge Economy (duh). [/QUOTE]Sorry, couldn't let this go. He's a lawyer? Did he tell you that? Hoo boy. This is getting stranger and stranger.
I noticed T1234's post saying that you were him, which I have to say, I'm not sure he's wrong on that. Your last line sounds very much like his standard condescending tone. You should start your own forum called the Knowedge Economy where people pay to sign up in order to then buy more knowledge from enterprising members. See how that goes.
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[quote=wendella;1574450]sorry, couldn't let this go. he's a lawyer? did he tell you that? hoo boy. this is getting stranger and stranger.
[/quote]when i first met him a number of yrs ago, it was with another member whom shall remain annon due to him not posting anything in the past few yrs.
he told me he was a day trader, only lived in saigon because he had access to a house, something he didn't have back in oz. he also took us to the barbershops in tan binh, the addresses he got off the ******** forum, also it was interesting to note, he had never been to these places, so it was like a reccon mission with a couple others. he took us to rose (now closed for a couple yrs) and then to tulip (also closed).
i personally don't have anything against him, i've said it before and i'll say it again, sure he has knowledge but its not exactly a big secret now. nothing stopping members from meeting up and going for a ride around, having a look. its how i found places before i knew of this forum, and its still how i find places.
i'm sure we all know what a blow and go looks like, there are thousands of these shops rep001tered around the districts. the constant bickering by some members who expect full addresses without offering anything in return kinda defeats the purpose of a open discussion forum, so due to these members this thread has evolved into what it has become. i along with others are also guilty in some way, not giving out addresses for the barbershops (but have through pm) for fear of le closing these places down, which has turned out not to be the case.
yes there was a big crackdown in tb district, most shops have closed or relocated on the side exiting the airport, however on the road entering the airport (right side when airport is infront of you) there are still a couple shops operating and have been for a couple of yrs.
what are the names and addresses of these shops? get off your ass, jump on a scooter and ride around and take a look. they are not hard to find.
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[QUOTE=MikHcmc;1574477]
Yes there was a big crackdown in TB district, Most shops have closed or relocated on the side exiting the airport, However on the road entering the airport (right side when airport is infront of you) there are still a couple shops operating and have been for a couple of yrs.
What are the names and addresses of these shops? Get off your ass, jump on a scooter and ride around and take a look. They are not hard to find.[/QUOTE]Man, I'm tired of getting off my ass. I'll go find them, and then they'll move them all again. Ugh. So no more on Ba Vi? No more New Moon on Hau Giang? Very few left in Phu My Hung too, now. Queen is stlll there, and Spalucky (I like the way they combine it as if it's one word, sounds like Splucky), anyone seen others? There were 3 on the street before the last one before, all closed now (Rose, VIP and one other whose name I can't remember).
With any of these forums there are always newbies asking the easy questions that are asked too much. Hopefully the ones who were just newbies a short time ago can handle those questions, and things flow smoothly. The problem in this thread and the VN section was when someone decided to set up their lemonade stand. I said one thing about him that wasn't fair, he's not as bad as the Toad. That guy was way out of control, especially on that other forum. He had like 30 fake accounts all talking to each other, and praising him. That's one guy pretending to be other members, all of them saying how great he is. That was just sick. What ever happened to that guy? He went by the name Chao Ech on the forum, which means Frog. So critics started calling him "the toad".
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You know VN much better than a lot of other punters, We all know how shops come and go, be it selling stickers, mobile phones, laptops, bars and other services. They pop up all over the place.
[QUOTE=Wendella;1574598]Man, I'm tired of getting off my ass. I'll go find them, and then they'll move them all again. Ugh. So no more on Ba Vi? No more New Moon on Hau Giang? Very few left in Phu My Hung too, now. Queen is stlll there, and Spalucky (I like the way they combine it as if it's one word, sounds like Splucky), anyone seen others? There were 3 on the street before the last one before, all closed now (Rose, VIP and one other whose name I can't remember).[/QUOTE]
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Take three steps back and take a deep breath
[quote=mikhcmc;1574477]i'm sure we all know what a blow and go looks like, there are thousands of these shops rep001tered around the districts. [/quote]no i don't know what one looks like. same for a ca phe om, restaurant om, et al. generally describing the appearance and signage of these places would be a real help.
[quote=mikhcmc;1574477]the constant bickering by some members who expect full addresses without offering anything in return kinda defeats the purpose of a open discussion forum, so due to these members this thread has evolved into what it has become. [/quote]i could not disagree with you more. some people really enjoy being helpful. they look forward to it. i can remember peering at a map in a major city and people stopping me and asking me if i was lost and offering help.
some people are takers and not givers but those few should not stop discourage those who want to help. as far as giving back, should we really expect a tourist to be able to give back substantive information to an experienced saigon expat? of course the information will usually be going in one direction. we should not be disappointed with this outcome.
some forum members may have been on the forum for too long. they get critical of newbies and abrasive towards other members. as familiarity breeds contempt so these longtime members no longer respect or understand the purpose of the forum. they should take a well-deserved break and come back when their attitude changes.
[quote=mikhcmc;1574477]what are the names and addresses of these shops? get off your ass, jump on a scooter and ride around and take a look. they are not hard to find.[/quote]wow. i think that you need to reevaluate your mission. i believe that you have been swirled up in the bickering and that you have lost your perspective. btw, i am on your side. you have a thankless job.
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[QUOTE=MikHcmc;1574720]You know VN much better than a lot of other punters, We all know how shops come and go, be it selling stickers, mobile phones, laptops, bars and other services. They pop up all over the place. [/QUOTE]I don't know, I think there's been a lot more going than coming in recent years, without much popping.
Speaking of which, you know now if I am signed in, I am not able to view my own posts. Seriously. Others say they can see my posts. (At least until you go delete them all.) But yeah, it's like I have myself on my ignore list. At first I thought Jackson had banned me. But if he did, he only banned me from seeing me.
Joking about the deleting, whatever you think works to keep the thread under control is fine by me, delete away. Maybe even this one if you want. I should say something really rude and make it worthwhile.
So back to the main thing, are you really going to make me drive up there again to find out which of these airport places are still open? Ugh.
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Bad information
I have just returned from Saigon and I have to wonder if the people writing here have any idea about what they are saying. This Ben Nys place is a dirty shithole. The girls are not that great. Even if the price is ok. The price they show you on a bit of cardboard is 150 for the shop and 200 for the girl. It might be the other way around. Either way I walked out after showing them the price quoted on this site. This annoyed them because I guess they don't believe this is the official price site. I wanted an excuse to leave anyway because they 6 girls were all 6's or 7's if you squint.
Most of the fancy District 1 Hot Tocs have closed. There are a few left and the girls still hang around in their short skirts etc. But the services in these are very limited. The good thing is that the tips are set before you start so know the total cost beforehand. Just do not be surprised if you do not get any extras.
I had a look around for the Om cafes with NO success. I have no idea if they exist anymore.
There are massage shops all over the place. Some offer more than others. The price is 150-200,000 for an hour. Then there is the tip. Instead of relying on this site I suggest that you just look around. I went to two that were notable.
1. In this place the girl is selected for you but you can send her back. Price 200,000. She was a 8 or 9. Happy ending and can touch everything. Tip 300,000 because I always talk to them and fall for them. But these girls are nice.
2. I was walking down the street when I noticed some legs in a tiny pink dress. I was stunned and started following them. I could not believe this body was real. I was tempted for the first time in my life to stop a girl in the street and offer her whatever she wanted to go with me. I followed her not even 50 m when she walked into a café and vanished before I could blink. I looked up at the signs on the shop and on the first floor there was a massage shop. I went in and asked if anyone did massages. This was an ordinary café with families eating.
The shop assistant walked upstairs and came back with my girl who said it was her job to get customers off the street and bring them in for the other girls. That's why she was so hot.
I told her that I only wanted a massage from her and as the shop had not yet opened she agreed. OMG. No. 1 she kept on her skirt and tight top but let my hands wander. Then I asked her to take off her panties and sit on me. Then began the best 3-hour session I have had in my life. She spent the next 3 hours rubbing my entire body with her naked arse, pussy and tits. We used the entire bottle of oil and were slipping and sliding all over each other. There was chest and ear and neck kissing. Fingering. You name it. Everything except sex which neither of us wanted. I can't remember the tip. I think it was $60. I was just ready to throw money at this girl. I went back 2 days later and saw the same girl. The session was the same but more relaxed. We could lie together and touch. But once again I received a massage of a lifetime with her using only her pussy and ass. She was pushing her pussy into my face to make me lick her but that's not my job and she was moaning as she rubbed her pussy up and down me. I got her contact details and am still in touch today. A week later. As I am going back to Saigon soon. This time I will get her to take a few days off work so we can spend more time together. I am actually flying back just for more of her body.
She was better than the 8-girl massage I got in Siem Reap. I'm going to save this post then write more.
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[QUOTE=Pompetus;1574807]No I don't know what one looks like. Same for a ca phe om, restaurant om, et al. Generally describing the appearance and signage of these places would be a real help.[/QUOTE]Just look for a sign that says Hot Toc, you will know by reading the descriptions of what the shop will look like.
If you see guys and / or girls dressed in jeans, teeshirt with a lot of customers sitting in chairs then clearly you are in the wrong place, If you see a Hot Toc with girls wearing short skirts, low cut tops then you MAY be in the right place, However this is VN, not all is what it seems.
Pretty much a small shop, pink or blue lights at night time inside the entry of the shop, girls wearing sexy outfits.
[QUOTE=Wendella;1575394]I don't know, I think there's been a lot more going than coming in recent years, without much popping.
So back to the main thing, are you really going to make me drive up there again to find out which of these airport places are still open? Ugh.[/QUOTE]Lots of business's have been closing down, Down turn in the economy.
As you may know I havn't visited a fuckshop since late 09. Yeah its been a while but I've been busy with my other places I visit and my 3 holer sex toy I'm training.
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Visited Benny's today.
They still renovate their premise. Tried to visit their place 2 weeks ago, but then cancelled it (right in front of their premise) when I knew that they had some construction inside. Today, took taxi from D1 around 1.30 PM. Surprised as there were lots of worker inside. Wanted to cancel again, but didn't want to feel wasted. So, I gave it a go. Went it and ask a boy in front if they were open, he pointed to inside so I assumed it was on. Met the reception and she showed me a paper (without ask or talk much): Fee 150 K, Tip 200 K. FYI, I never been here and usually it never smooth at first (as my face look like locals). One lady took escort me to back side, took the stairs, and entered small room (without door. Just curtain). Have the deed done, and she asked if I wanted more. Then replied "yes". She motioned 2 of her finger (2 hundreds? I didn't mind for that, so she then continued but my junior wasn't interest on her, after 15 minutes sucking all, I said stop. Gave her the promised 200 K and went off.
BJ: 6/10, Face: 6/10 , Body (6/10).
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[quote=mikhcmc;1574477]when i first met him a number of yrs ago, it was with another member whom shall remain annon due to him not posting anything in the past few yrs.
he told me he was a day trader, only lived in saigon because he had access to a house, something he didn't have back in oz. he also took us to the barbershops in tan binh, the addresses he got off the ******** forum, also it was interesting to note, he had never been to these places, so it was like a reccon mission with a couple others. he took us to rose (now closed for a couple yrs) and then to tulip (also closed).
i personally don't have anything against him, i've said it before and i'll say it again, sure he has knowledge but its not exactly a big secret now. nothing stopping members from meeting up and going for a ride around, having a look. its how i found places before i knew of this forum, and its still how i find places.
i'm sure we all know what a blow and go looks like, there are thousands of these shops rep001tered around the districts. the constant bickering by some members who expect full addresses without offering anything in return kinda defeats the purpose of a open discussion forum, so due to these members this thread has evolved into what it has become...[/quote]that's really weird man. i contacted him around the same time. we chat over other pm.
he told me he knew some cool places but things seemed to hit a snag.
he said before i tell you valuable info i want to know who i'm giving it to.
he kept asking about myself and how everything's give and take.
i guessed he was hinting i should pay him and so i asked flat out: "do you want money".
i said how much do you want.
i offered 200/400 k can't remember which.
he said that's like $10/ $20 aud only.
i said so what you want a hundred bucks?
then we both kinda ejected from the conversation.
p.s. i met the guy you said who met him with you. the young tall american schoolteacher guy.
he said that guy was a gym junkie and ok guy but serious. (or was it arrogant or bossy?
it was a long time ago but reading your account sounds right.
he is a really weird guy. can't figure his angle. surely he knows not enough people are going to pay $100 to be given an address?
or are there enough noobs that desperate to support his habit?
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In HCMC for first time
Hi pals. Staying at an upscale hotel in D1 and ventured out on my own yesterday towards Bui Vien area. Was asked almost 5-6 times by guys if I wanted a lady. However, I was just interested in getting to know the area to avoid getting into trouble. Lots of bars with mattresses outside and people sitting and drinking on the footpath. Was given card by a lady for a massage. While out on Tran Hung Dao was handed another card by a lady for a spa which was on the same street. May be I would try it tonight. Near my hotel, a lady on a scooter kept pestering me to come with her as she had some good girls, enough for me to feel embarrased on the road. Since this is a new country for me altogether, can anyone of the members here help me with a place near Tran Hung Dao / Bui Vien which is hygienic, clean and provides b2 b massage? Not looking for FS or even BJ. I have PM facility. Unfortunately due to ton of work, might not be able to go very far from my hotel. Thanks in advance.
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When you need a hug.
The cafe oms around HCMC that provided BJ seem to have moslty disappeared. (if you know where some are now, feel free to share).
But for those looking for less than that, basically for some cozy contact with a girl, then there is one street in D8 that has a bunch of this type.
The street is Pham The Hien, and if you head into D8 onto this street from D5 via the Nguyen Bieu bridge, then you will go over a very small bridge first before reaching the section of the street that has these places.
They're located at 538,572, 661 (next to a bar / karaoke called MTV), 698,714 and 728 (I think that's the number for the last one).
Be warned, there are some girls in these places that are not too lovely, but some or maybe most of the cafes will have one or 2 who are fairly cute and worth having sit in your lap.
The level of service varies. At best a girl will sit in your lap and be very touchy, and also allow you to be too. In one, a girl just sat there not seeming too interested in doing anything. In another she sat in the next chair and stayed put there, did not want to do more than that, would not even when asked. Allowed limited groping but also chatted with her girlfriend behind us for much of the time, so that was not very good service. When you get a good one, it's obvious.
Prices, you pay for your coffee or coke or whatever you order at 30 k or 50 k, and the tip expected seems to be somewhere between 50 k and 100 k. Once I tipped 100 K and the girl seemed surprised and a bit too happy about it, which made me think I had overtipped. But she was a total dead fish too, so maybe that was why.
If any one knows of other areas with these same types of places, I'd be glad to hear about it. I'm too busy to go out exploring like in the old days.
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[QUOTE=NguyenImproved;1583991]
He said before I tell you valuable info I want to know who I'm giving it to.
He kept asking about myself and how everything's give and take.
[/QUOTE]Nothing personal against MC, but the forum rules spell it out very clearly: it's a bad idea to be sharing your personal details with other members here. God forbid, if some member got into some trouble with police, and they have contact details of a lot of members here, then it goes without saying that this info will be shared with the police. Why would someone who is basically a stranger to you stick his own neck out to protect you. Maybe I'm paranoid, but it doesn't seem worth the risk. Also if a guy knows who you are, then they might eventually come in contact with people who know you and then share details about your secret exploits. I really don't get why he is so keen to find out personal info from other members, it has never felt good to me. There's another forum dominated by Singaporeans where they standardly meet up in real life, using the forum as a way to initiate contacts. Again, not being from that country, I don't get it. That forum really doesn't get into the nitty gritty details like this one, is really useless for good useable information or to find out what places are really like, what services available. It's a total waste of time for anyone who wants to find out those kinds of things. Good for chit chat though, especially if you're Singaporean (lots of Singlish used and local slang, even Chinese terms). So maybe MC, who I think did get socially involved with guys at that forum, liked that and wanted to import that ethic to this forum. But it's not a good mix, in my humble opinion at least. If we were holding back on the details like they do at that forum, maybe, but then this forum would not be worth coming to for info. That said, I don't think charging money for info would have gone over any better on that forum than on this one, actually I think the response would have been harsher.
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You would have to be crazy
[QUOTE=Wendella;1584250]It's a bad idea to be sharing your personal details with other members here. [/QUOTE]Wendella is 100 per cent correct. It's madness sharing your details with anyone on this site. It takes seconds to befriend you on Facebook and link up with your friends. They could then start posting screenshots of your ISG posts. Think blackmail. How much would you be willing to pay to stop someone showing your friends all your posts on ISG.
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[QUOTE=NguyenImproved;1583991]
P.S. I met the guy you said who met him with you. The young tall American schoolteacher guy.[/QUOTE]You got the wrong guy but anyway, MC's concern was he didn't want any undercover cops getting told and ruining the fun, also make sure you don't go blabbing to everyone on the forum about these places. His words were "Vetted".
This was a free service BTW, We met up, had some drinks, chatted about life in vn and then followed him to the destinations. Nothing wrong with that.
Why all the paranoia in this forum, We are almost as paranoid as the massage girls who keep pointing to the door saying polith polith.
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[QUOTE=Wendella;1570799]What some say are the best spots by far would be the massage places up near the airport. If you PM enough guys you will get those exact addresses for free. (if you PM the wrong guy, you will get a price quote of $100 or so for the same info) Ba Vi street has a couple of them (VIP and 4 Seasons). Hau Giang has at least one more (New Moon). If you find those streets, you should find the places. The streets are on Google Maps, they're in Tan Binh district. And one note, I haven't been up there in a couple months, so it's possible those places moved. (Can anyone confirm, or have current info?) There are also some side streets in Phu My Hung near Sky Garden that have more of these places at a slightly higher price. They're mostly in the back away from the main street Nguyen Van Linh. A bunch of them were closed recently, but there are still a few in there.
There's a hostess bar called VIC that is on one of the side streets off of Cach Mang Thang 8 street, it's either Ho Xuan Huong or else Ngo Thoi Nhiem. The girls are expensive to take out (price always changing, and I haven't been there in a long time), and you have to be really wary of bill-padding, but they usually have a decent selection.
There's a few spots around town with BJ massage / hot toc, Nguyen Phi Khanh in the north of D1 was a street that has at least one. (Address, guys? This isn't a place I go to. 84?) There's plenty of info about Benny's on Dien Bien Phu in Binh Thanh district. There are also MANY around town that do only HJ. In that case they often will cuddle with you on your little bed, some groping allowed, so it's not as bad as it sounds.[/QUOTE]Wendella,
I appreciate the information. In the interests of sharing, I rode a moto around Koreatown today, and this is what I saw-
Ba Vi- only one spa open, went in, fancier lobby than I remember, only 4 girls working, mama-san asked for 800 K for sex. Didn't see anything I liked so I went off to Hau Giang to look for New Moon. Saw the neon sign, but when I followed it down the side street, nothing was open. This was around 2 pm in the afternoon.
A tout spotted me doing the u-turn, asked me if I was looking for New Moon, and told me to follow him. Followed him across to the other side of Truong Son, went in a few blocks to 25 Cuu Long, a place called Thien Ly, though the card also says New Moon. Thought that Thien Ly might be Vietnamese for New Moon, but when I checked in Google Translate, it means God's justice- what a name for a massage place!
Anyway, there were around 15 girls, early 20's to late 20's, mainly doable. Standard 800 K fee, including tip, so if the tout got a commission, it didn't raise my price. I picked out one of the more slender ones, got good service though no BJ. I'd definitely say worth checking out.
Friendly.
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There are usually more girls in the evening at Ba Vi. Around 10 to 15.
[QUOTE=FriendlyPlanet;1587680]Wendella,
Ba Vi- only one spa open, went in, fancier lobby than I remember, only 4 girls working, mama-san asked for 800 K for sex. Didn't see anything I liked so I went off to Hau Giang to look for New Moon. Saw the neon sign, but when I followed it down the side street, nothing was open. This was around 2 pm in the afternoon.
Friendly.[/QUOTE]
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Paging Mr McHick
Mik HCMC, your inbox is full, so my private message to you is not going through. Guess you have to do some deleting.
W.
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Inbox has space now. Pm away mate
[QUOTE=Wendella;1592231]Mik HCMC, your inbox is full, so my private message to you is not going through. Guess you have to do some deleting.
W.[/QUOTE].
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My Trip to Bennys
Last night I did my obligatory trip to Benny's, Saigon's durable and reliable outlet for blowjobs at a reasonable price. An ISG contributor had stated that if you give the taxi driver these instructions then you will be taken there: 110 Dien Bien Phu St - - P 17 Binh Thanh. Sure enough there was no problem finding the place. Upon entry I was given a slip of paper which said 150,000 + 200,000 = 350,000. They wanted the money upfront.
My girl was slight, young, but nothing too great. Again this was not the issue. I was there to get the chrome sucked off my trailer hitch. The rest was foofaraw. I was taken up a steeply constructed staircase, instructed to sit down on a dentist style chair and the work began.
She first cleaned the family jewels and began to slurp on my nipples. Didn't really enhance anything. She pulled down her bra and pulled up her panties and offered me her privates. Time and again she would guide my hand to her pussy and gestured that I should play with it. But for me, a blowjob is not about her body and dreaming that I am f-cking her. Rather it is all about me and the enjoyment that I am getting as she skillfully brings me to orgasm.
After about 10 minutes, her enthusiasm began to wane. Soon she complains that I am not hard. I have been sick. Eating uncooked vegetables has given me diarear. My immune system is compromised and my dick is less effective. Her stopping and starting was not helping things.
Finally I got her to make a sustained climb to the summit and with me pushing my engines, we were able to complete the mission. I have had better blowjobs but it is really not a bad deal. I really expected that Bennys' was going to be a rat trap and although it was no Xanadu, I have seen much worse in my travels in Asia.
One more note; when I left Benny's I took a right in search of another BJ shop in proximity to Bennys which has been reported on the Forum. Sure enough, about 5 minutes later I passed the place. I did not note the name but the girls inside seemed a cut above the the ones in Bennys.
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[QUOTE=Wendella;1574448]The guy does seem to have a lot of knowledge, you are right about that. He hasn't been blackballed though. The moderator of this thread doesn't have the power to ban members (if that is what you mean), so as far as I know his account is still active. What irks a lot of long time members is that he only shares info for payment. He posts reports here as if he's a normal member sharing info, in order to lure mainly new members to send hm a PM where the sales pitch begins. The expectation of this site is that members will share info for free, that's its purpose, so if someone pays for a subscription just to find out that they then have to pay a lot more for info from this guy (typical reaction is WTF), that's not cool. He's pretending to be one of us normal members sharing info in order to trick newbies into sending him PM's and starting his sales pitch. Forum rules are that there's no advertising in the non-advertising threads, but that's what he's really doing. His FR's are effectively ads. And they have been leading to non-stop bickering in this VN section for a very long time now. What's more he's pretty damn rude in PM's, which clearly violates forum rules.
By the way, I drove past that VIC bar that I mentioned in a recent post. It's at 55 Ho Xuan Huong, just off of CMT8.[/QUOTE]VIC is very expensive. When you go early around 8:30 when the girls started to show up, you'll see alot. This place used to have like alot of 9's' but lately are just 6-8. Used to go out with a few that could be a super model (4 years ago). Last Dec. When I was back. I go every 6-9 mths, so I try to go at least once.
Most of the time I roam around bars, reg cafe and get the girls. Most of the time, I would get them to come back. Anyway, story short. Been reading and interested in seeing something different. So if you're free in 4 days, I'll land and we can meet for drinks and explore the city and share infos. PM me and let's get together.
BTW, I know I havn't share much infos on here, been really lazy and busy at the same time.
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[QUOTE=Wendella;1570799]First thing that must be said: "It's not great here now." The HBT hostess-for-hire bars got clamped down on last year and have not recovered. There are 2 of them that are still semi-worth a look now: Bin Bin at 13 Le Thanh Ton (I think that's the address) and another little one on on Nguyen Sieu street off of HBT, next to a restaurant (its a very short street, can't miss it). The rest of them are not really worth even poking your head in. There's Apocalypse Now on Thi sach near there, freelancers, not cheap. The discos and nightclubs are tough nuts to crack as a tourist. Also expensive nuts to crack. The backpacker area has a bunch of bars with over-priced mediocre looking ones, Do Quang Dau street has a few of them, and around the corner on De Tham has more. Hate to even mention these places because I doubt you'll find something decent there. I hear they're asking silly prices now in these backpacker places.
What some say are the best spots by far would be the massage places up near the airport. If you PM enough guys you will get those exact addresses for free. (if you PM the wrong guy, you will get a price quote of $100 or so for the same info) Ba Vi street has a couple of them (VIP and 4 Seasons). Hau Giang has at least one more (New Moon). If you find those streets, you should find the places. The streets are on Google Maps, they're in Tan Binh district. And one note, I haven't been up there in a couple months, so it's possible those places moved. (Can anyone confirm, or have current info?) There are also some side streets in Phu My Hung near Sky Garden that have more of these places at a slightly higher price. They're mostly in the back away from the main street Nguyen Van Linh...[/QUOTE]HCMC is actually getting really bad. Prices are almost as much as USA. Talents are getting better, but still, very expensive and hard to get because there are so many dai gia now. Only been hanging out with the group last few years to see them. They don't go with poor people anymore (which I am still belonging the this group). Only way is to really searching and be patience. Well, been lucky so far on my last few trips.
Anyway. Google my userid you'll see my email and we'll get in touch.
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Hi. Thanks for the invite, Xohai, I appreciate it. One thing I have to say though, I'm one of these paranoid neurotic types who doesn't meet other members. I keep all my meetings and communication here in the forum, either in the threads or else in PM's. I'm happy to share any info you want, whichever way you prefer.
Actualy since I wrote those words about the downtown District 1 bars, things have improved. There are a few less bars now, with more than half on HBT itself being closed. But the bars still standing have gotten friskier again. Prices have edged up, it's now necessary to bargain, but still possible to get one for about one point two mil plus barfine. It's also possible to completely relax upstairs in some of these places. Bin Bin, Nightfall and 29 for sure, not sure which others. I got spectacular treatment (short of complete relaxation) in one of them very recently. Oh and most importantly, the quality of what is on offer has been steadily improving the last few months. Even 91 seems to be bouncing back.
By the way, the term "completely relax" is CODE. It means something else. (see, I really am paranoid).
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Info about cafe om and massage
At present, most cafe om moved to suburb and Binh Duong province. Even though it is quite far from the city center like D1 or D3, price is inexpensive with 150 k to 200 k for BJ. The girls are young, mostly come from the countryside (the West of VN or provinces nearby Cambodia), low level of learning, of course they cannot speak English. My local friend guided me to some cafe oms in Di an town in Binh Duong . It took me more than an hour from the city center to there, but it is really worthy. After I got into the cafe om, a teen girl with cute face comes and sits on my lap. She asked me whether she could sit and duck soup with me. I am quite anxious because the girl is really young but my local friend reassured me. At here, the owner negotiated with the local government in the darkness, so it is safe. The tip is counted by the number of glasses called, usually 4 glasses for 20-30 minutes with 20 k for each. During the time she sits with you, you can touch her body. If you want to fuck, can negotiate with the girl and come to hotel (usually from 300 k to 500 k depend on girls). Leave the cafe om, my local friend and I came to DT743, cafe om BJ. We got into the cafe om named Phuong Nhi. At there, the girls use mouth 100% for BJ, not use hand and let us CIM free. Price for each shot in 20 minutes is 150 k. I chose a girl and came with her to a leaf hut. She let me sit on a chair and BJ. Compared with the massage girls in D1, the girls here are not beautiful, but teen and their tongue technique is very good. I cummed on the girl's face in only 10 minutes. If someone want to know these cafe oms, can inbox me, I will introduce you my local friend.
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[QUOTE=Galapagox91;1629329]At present, most cafe om moved to suburb and Binh Duong province. Even though it is quite far from the city center like D1 or D3, price is inexpensive with 150 k to 200 k for BJ. The girls are young, mostly come from the countryside (the West of VN or provinces nearby Cambodia), low level of learning, of course they cannot speak English. My local friend guided me to some cafe oms in Di an town in Binh Duong . It took me more than an hour from the city center to there, but it is really worthy. After I got into the cafe om, a teen girl with cute face comes and sits on my lap. She asked me whether she could sit and duck soup with me. I am quite anxious because the girl is really young but my local friend reassured me. At here, the owner negotiated with the local government in the darkness, so it is safe. The tip is counted by the number of glasses called, usually 4 glasses for 20-30 minutes with 20 k for each. During the time she sits with you, you can touch her body. If you want to fuck, can negotiate with the girl and come to hotel (usually from 300 k to 500 k depend on girls). Leave the cafe om, my local friend and I came to DT743, cafe om BJ. We got into the cafe om named Phuong Nhi. At there, the girls use mouth 100% for BJ, not use hand and let us CIM free. Price for each shot in 20 minutes is 150 k. I chose a girl and came with her to a leaf hut. She let me sit on a chair and BJ. Compared with the massage girls in D1, the girls here are not beautiful, but teen and their tongue technique is very good. I cummed on the girl's face in only 10 minutes. If someone want to know these cafe oms, can inbox me, I will introduce you my local friend.[/QUOTE]Tried to send you a private message, but your settings obviously don't allow for this.
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[QUOTE=Galapagox91;1629329]At present, most cafe om moved to suburb and Binh Duong province. Even though it is quite far from the city center like D1 or D3, price is inexpensive with 150 k to 200 k for BJ. The girls are young, mostly come from the countryside (the West of VN or provinces nearby Cambodia), low level of learning, of course they cannot speak English. My local friend guided me to some cafe oms in Di an town in Binh Duong . It took me more than an hour from the city center to there, but it is really worthy. After I got into the cafe om, a teen girl with cute face comes and sits on my lap. She asked me whether she could sit and duck soup with me. I am quite anxious because the girl is really young but my local friend reassured me. At here, the owner negotiated with the local government in the darkness, so it is safe. The tip is counted by the number of glasses called, usually 4 glasses for 20-30 minutes with 20 k for each. During the time she sits with you, you can touch her body. If you want to fuck, can negotiate with the girl and come to hotel (usually from 300 k to 500 k depend on girls). Leave the cafe om, my local friend and I came to DT743, cafe om BJ. We got into the cafe om named Phuong Nhi. At there, the girls use mouth 100% for BJ, not use hand and let us CIM free. Price for each shot in 20 minutes is 150 k. I chose a girl and came with her to a leaf hut. She let me sit on a chair and BJ. Compared with the massage girls in D1, the girls here are not beautiful, but teen and their tongue technique is very good. I cummed on the girl's face in only 10 minutes. If someone want to know these cafe oms, can inbox me, I will introduce you my local friend.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the write up!
Tried to message you but it says you don't have private messages turned on would love to know the location or general area to look feel free to PM me with details.
Cheers
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[QUOTE=Pompetus;1593923]
She first cleaned the family jewels and began to slurp on my nipples. Didn't really enhance anything. She pulled down her bra and pulled up her panties and offered me her privates. Time and again she would guide my hand to her pussy and gestured that I should play with it. But for me, a blowjob is not about her body and dreaming that I am f-cking her. Rather it is all about me and the enjoyment that I am getting as she skillfully brings me to orgasm.[/QUOTE]That must have been very uncomfortable giving herself a super wedgy like that LOL.
LuvasianTang.
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[QUOTE=FunwithColour;1629368]Tried to send you a private message, but your settings obviously don't allow for this.[/QUOTE]Hi friend,
I now rent a room at Pham Ngu Lao, D1 but maybe come back home country soon. Therefore, you can contact my local [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue]. He is very kind and may help you. These cafe om are in Binh duong province, you use google earth to find place name "Miếu Ông Cù".
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As you can't edit your post to correct the spell checker: I believe you mean Miếu Ông Cù, right?
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Hanoi
Does any BJ bars exist currently in Hanoi?
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[QUOTE=JohnCert;1631170]Does any BJ bars exist currently in Hanoi?[/QUOTE]I know the name of the thread doesn't say so, but this thread has always just incuded Saigon info, not Hanoi. You should go post this same question in the Hanoi thread, because that's a whole other group of people who post there, and not many of them look in this thread because it's for the opposite end of the country. Likewise, people who check this thread here will probably have no idea about Hanoi places. Good luck.
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[QUOTE=Wendella;1584250]Nothing personal against MC, but the forum rules spell it out very clearly: it's a bad idea to be sharing your personal details with other members here. God forbid, if some member got into some trouble with police, and they have contact details of a lot of members here, then it goes without saying that this info will be shared with the police. Why would someone who is basically a stranger to you stick his own neck out to protect you. Maybe I'm paranoid, but it doesn't seem worth the risk. Also if a guy knows who you are, then they might eventually come in contact with people who know you and then share details about your secret exploits. I really don't get why he is so keen to find out personal info from other members, it has never felt good to me. There's another forum dominated by Singaporeans where they standardly meet up in real life, using the forum as a way to initiate contacts. Again, not being from that country, I don't get it. That forum really doesn't get into the nitty gritty details like this one, is really useless for good useable information or to find out what places are really like, what services available. It's a total waste of time for anyone who wants to find out those kinds of things. Good for chit chat though, especially if you're Singaporean (lots of Singlish used and local slang, even Chinese terms). So maybe MC, who I think did get socially involved with guys at that forum, liked that and wanted to import that ethic to this forum. But it's not a good mix, in my humble opinion at least. If we were holding back on the details like they do at that forum, maybe, but then this forum would not be worth coming to for info. That said, I don't think charging money for info would have gone over any better on that forum than on this one, actually I think the response would have been harsher.[/QUOTE]This was an excellent post. I wanted to add meeting other mongers in person that you meet on this site and others. I always picture the other member a undercover police officer. They get you on tape talking about sex vacations. Specifically if you are meeting them in another country. Arrest you to make an example of you and use your own words on tape against you. What a stupid why to get caught and go to jail.
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Code
[QUOTE=Wendella;1598234]Hi. Thanks for the invite, Xohai, I appreciate it. One thing I have to say though, I'm one of these paranoid neurotic types who doesn't meet other members. I keep all my meetings and communication here in the forum, either in the threads or else in PM's. I'm happy to share any info you want, whichever way you prefer.
Actualy since I wrote those words about the downtown District 1 bars, things have improved. There are a few less bars now, with more than half on HBT itself being closed. But the bars still standing have gotten friskier again. Prices have edged up, it's now necessary to bargain, but still possible to get one for about one point two mil plus barfine. It's also possible to completely relax upstairs in some of these places. Bin Bin, Nightfall and 29 for sure, not sure which others. I got spectacular treatment (short of complete relaxation) in one of them very recently. Oh and most importantly, the quality of what is on offer has been steadily improving the last few months. Even 91 seems to be bouncing back.
By the way, the term "completely relax" is CODE. It means something else. (see, I really am paranoid).[/QUOTE]As in "completely relax" you, or just go "completely relax" yourself? Ha ha that's great code.
LAT.
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Bad information?
[QUOTE=Sidtip;1576720]I have just returned from Saigon and I have to wonder if the people writing here have any idea about what they are saying. This Ben Nys place is a dirty shithole. The girls are not that great. Even if the price is ok. The price they show you on a bit of cardboard is 150 for the shop and 200 for the girl. It might be the other way around. Either way I walked out after showing them the price quoted on this site. This annoyed them because I guess they don't believe this is the official price site. I wanted an excuse to leave anyway because they 6 girls were all 6's or 7's if you squint.
Most of the fancy District 1 Hot Tocs have closed. There are a few left and the girls still hang around in their short skirts etc. But the services in these are very limited. The good thing is that the tips are set before you start so know the total cost beforehand. Just do not be surprised if you do not get any extras.
I had a look around for the Om cafes with NO success. I have no idea if they exist anymore.
There are massage shops all over the place. Some offer more than others. The price is 150-200,000 for an hour. Then there is the tip. Instead of relying on this site I suggest that you just look around. I went to two that were notable...[/QUOTE]You mean stuff like reviews that tell absolutely nothing other then the fact you had fun. Very helpful right? How about a name and address. Pot kettle thing.
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Hot tocs
[QUOTE=FruitNinja;1644225]You mean stuff like reviews that tell absolutely nothing other then the fact you had fun. Very helpful right? How about a name and address. Pot kettle thing.[/QUOTE]If you want BBJ hot toc places don't go to ben nys.
Either go to Dinh Bo Linh near the bridge.
Or Nguyen Phi Khanh.
These places have been around for 5 yrs plus+++.
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Bennys closed
I went there on the 8th of this month and it was closed. Construction going on.
Number 90 on the same road which was also a Hottoc is also no longer there. It appears to be a café.
[QUOTE=Rokraida;1644528]If you want BBJ hot toc places don't go to ben nys.
Either go to Dinh Bo Linh near the bridge.
Or Nguyen Phi Khanh.
These places have been around for 5 yrs plus+++.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Rokraida;1644528] Either go to Dinh Bo Linh near the bridge. Or Nguyen Phi Khanh [/QUOTE]I'll be there pretty soon, it's tricky finding exactly where you mean though.
Dinh Bo Linh. Is this: Tiệm Hớt Tsee Anh Kim ** Đinh beộ Lĩnh?
Nguyen Phi Khanh. Is this: Tiệm seeắt Tsee Phi Khanh ** Nguyễand Phi Khanh?
Thanks!
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Maiden trip to Vietnam
I went to a Hot Toc / massage parlor in Nguyễn Phi Khanh. I believe it said 'massad' in the name of the place but the rest of the name has slipped my mind, sorry for that. It was approximately half way down the street on the right side coming from Dinh Tiên Hoàng. This was my very first visit to such a place in Vietnam so I was a little bit nervous and didn't know exactly what to expect. But the 24 yo girl who took me by the hand to lead me upstairs to the room was cute, very friendly and sweet and made me feel at ease pretty quick. She gave me a decent enough massage; not the best I ever had but certainly not the worst either.
When she had asked me to turn around she removed my underpants (I had kept it on but maybe it is standard to go naked right away?), slipped out of her panties and pulled her shirt down. OK, it was clear that the naughty part was about to start LOL! Then I realized I didn't ask for the price of the services when I entered the place. I asked the girl for the price but she didn't understand me (or pretended she didn't understand me). Oh well, we'll see about that later.
She played with my balls a little bit and licked them for a while and then she started a BBBJ. It was a bit mediocre to be honest. Too rushed and not as sensitive as I like it. She also made fake moaning sounds all the time. Sometimes she stopped for 10 or 20 seconds to lick my balls again or to give me a HJ and she even gave me a few kisses on the mouth. Meanwhile she allowed me to finger her pussy from behind which was a little bit wet. It took me quite some time to finish, I think 10 minutes or so, because she didn't do it exactly how I like it. But she kept on going and going without complaining until I finished in her mouth so I have to give her credit for that.
Downstairs the 'mamasan', or whatever these women are called here, presented me the bill: 800.000 VND. Hmmm, I don't think so. I smiled and said 'no way, no more than 400.000'. She insisted on 800.000 for a while, then dropped to 700.000 and 600.000 and finally after 5 minutes of arguing (in a firm way but not aggressive) to 500.000. She would not go lower than that. So I decided to take my chances, handed over 400.000 and walked away, just to see what would happen. Well, nothing happened. She didn't say anything anymore and neither did the two men (pimps?) that were hanging around. So I guess I still paid too much and they were satisfied?
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Not there
[QUOTE=Rokraida;1644528]If you want BBJ hot toc places don't go to ben nys.
Either go to Dinh Bo Linh near the bridge.
Or Nguyen Phi Khanh.
These places have been around for 5 yrs plus+++.[/QUOTE]I just walked every meter of Dinh Bo Linh and found nothing. I even walked down all of the side streets and found nothing. This isn't my first trip to vietnam either so I know what to look for and ask. I walked from bach dang to the bridge, all the way to the river then down the street running parallel to Dinh Bo Linh, and found nothing. I did find hot tocs with men in them and no sign of girls. Non asked me if I wanted massage and the ones that I asked just giggled like little girls and shook their hands in the air (no in vietnamese I guess). This is the second time I've tried to find hot tocs on Dinh Bo Linh, both times I came up empty handed.
Is this just bad intel or am I missing something.
LAT.
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Dbl
[QUOTE=LuvAsianTang;1645960]I just walked every meter of Dinh Bo Linh and found nothing. I even walked down all of the side streets and found nothing. This isn't my first trip to vietnam either so I know what to look for and ask. I walked from bach dang to the bridge, all the way to the river then down the street running parallel to Dinh Bo Linh, and found nothing. I did find hot tocs with men in them and no sign of girls. Non asked me if I wanted massage and the ones that I asked just giggled like little girls and shook their hands in the air (no in vietnamese I guess). This is the second time I've tried to find hot tocs on Dinh Bo Linh, both times I came up empty handed.
Is this just bad intel or am I missing something.
LAT.[/QUOTE]Nope you're about 2 years too late. I used to work up that way and there were at least 7 different places. All gone now. The whole district (and city) is being cleaned up. There are still some areas that have them. Nguyen Phi Khanh in D1, the D10 side of the Nhieu Loc canal road and there's a cluster at the side of Nguyen Bieu bridge in D5. Never been to any so can't comment.
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[QUOTE=LuvAsianTang;1645960]I just walked every meter of Dinh Bo Linh and found nothing. I even walked down all of the side streets and found nothing. This isn't my first trip to vietnam either so I know what to look for and ask. I walked from bach dang to the bridge, all the way to the river then down the street running parallel to Dinh Bo Linh, and found nothing. I did find hot tocs with men in them and no sign of girls. Non asked me if I wanted massage and the ones that I asked just giggled like little girls and shook their hands in the air (no in vietnamese I guess). This is the second time I've tried to find hot tocs on Dinh Bo Linh, both times I came up empty handed.
Is this just bad intel or am I missing something.
LAT.[/QUOTE]No you are right its old / bad intel. That wholes district was the subject of a Hanoi directive to crack down. So forget that whole district. Unless you like wasting your time. The owners of those shops have moved to other districts so life goes on.
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Another hot toc at NPK
I went to another Hot Toc at Nguyên Phi Khanh yesterday and this time I payed in advance: 200.000 for the 'mama' and 300.000 for the girl.
Got an early twenties cutie again but this girl was really horny. She lead my hand to her pussy almost right away when we were in the room and wanted to be fingered. She was a little bit wet already. I suggested to lick her and she climbed on top of me on the table immediately. Her pussy and butt hole were immaculately fresh and she became very wet. Meanwhile she gave me a decent blowjob. I thought about asking for boom boom but decided to save that for another time. I was having a real good time already.
After I had finished in her mouth, she cleaned me up and gave me a short massage. Nothing to write home about but nice nevertheless.
She escorted me all the way to the front door on my way out and I got the impression she was hoping to get a tip. But I think 300.000 was enough.
I'm starting to like these Hot Tocs! Although so far I didn't have a good fuck in this town and I'm beginning to miss that.
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Terrible News
[QUOTE=TomSf;1640632]This was an excellent post. I wanted to add meeting other mongers in person that you meet on this site and others. I always picture the other member a undercover police officer. They get you on tape talking about sex vacations. Specifically if you are meeting them in another country. Arrest you to make an example of you and use your own words on tape against you. What a stupid why to get caught and go to jail.[/QUOTE]This is terrible news! I never pictured such an event.
Now, all of us will desist from meeting fellow mongerers, enjoying each others company and going on joint mongering expeditions. My mongering life has now been decimated!
I assume that your report is not simply paranoia!
How often does this happen in S. E. Asia?
How often are westerners employed as undercover plainclothes police officers, in S. E. Asian countries, to lure mongerers to their doom?
Please respond! I am in shock!
Ikks.
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[QUOTE=Ikksman;1646737]
How often does this happen in S. E. Asia?
How often are westerners employed as undercover plainclothes police officers, in S. E. Asian countries, to lure mongerers to their doom?
Please respond! I am in shock![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ikksman;1646737]
How often does this happen in S. E. Asia?
How often are westerners employed as undercover plainclothes police officers, in S. E. Asian countries, to lure mongerers to their doom?
Please respond! I am in shock!
Ikks.[/QUOTE]I don't think anyone was talking about undercover plainclothes officers.
I think we all realize that foreigners do get caught doing things they shouldn't be doing here. There's stories every few days in local papers of these kinds of places being busted and foreign customers caught in the act. If you meet members here, they're essentially strangers. So you trust strangers to not name you as someone who does this? I do know of a few guys who had to leave the country permanently, it does happen.
There's also your local reputation to consider. Maybe that's not important for you, but for some people here it might be. Very easy for such info to leak out and become part of the grapevine.
And finally, forums like this one tend to attract a few people who are maybe a bit unstable, or maybe just not very nice. There are people out there who do go and try to cause trouble. I saw a battle on one forum (not this one) where some members were actively trying to get another member into trouble with authorities, working together via PM to do that.
But I guess if your reputation amongst locals here is not important, or your social standing is something you don't worry about, if you just live in a foreigner bubble (nothing wrong with that), or just visit here, then maybe your own risk is low.
I don't think it's silly for some people to not want to meet other members though, or to want to remain anonymous.
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[QUOTE=Wendella;1647080]I don't think anyone was talking about undercover plainclothes officers. {S N I P}
And finally, forums like this one tend to attract a few people who are maybe a bit unstable, or maybe just not very nice. There are people out there who do go and try to cause trouble. {S N I P}
I don't think it's silly for some people to not want to meet other members though, or to want to remain anonymous.[/QUOTE]I agree with you, except that a poster actually wrote about undercover police officers:
[QUOTE]This was an excellent post. I wanted to add meeting other mongers in person that you meet on this site and others. I always picture the other member a [b]undercover police officer[/b]. {S N I P} What a stupid why to get caught and go to jail.[/QUOTE]This same guy has also repeatedly (over a period of more than one year), made claims on the ISG China forums about plainclothes police bursting into hotel rooms, BBS rooms etc (usually claiming that a Chinese friend told him about it). This is why I asked for any evidence of these occurrences in Vietnam.
And I have met other members - usually longstanding members. I live in Shenzhen, and could have serious problems (professionally and visa-wise) if I was exposed, so obviously I am cautious.
[I][B]So, my tongue was very firmly planted in my cheek[/B][/I] (and I was not trying to use sign language to indicate I wanted a BJ).
Cheers.
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[QUOTE=Ikksman;1647115]
[I][B]So, my tongue was very firmly planted in my cheek[/B][/I] (and I was not trying to use sign language to indicate I wanted a BJ).
Cheers.[/QUOTE]Ha. OK. Thats what I get for not reading carefully. Sorry about that.
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[QUOTE=FruitNinja;1644225]You mean stuff like reviews that tell absolutely nothing other then the fact you had fun. Very helpful right? How about a name and address. Pot kettle thing.[/QUOTE]If you read all the messages that followed you would see that my clues were enough for someone else to find both places and he then went on to name one. These places are still there. Read the posts and you will discover it all. Saigon is hotter than hell if you know where to look.
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Hours of operation
What are the normal hours of operation for most of the places?
If I wander out of my hotel at 9 pm am I still in time for some fun or have I had it for the day.
Thanks
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Sorry!
[QUOTE=LuvAsianTang;1645960]I just walked every meter of Dinh Bo Linh and found nothing. I even walked down all of the side streets and found nothing. This isn't my first trip to vietnam either so I know what to look for and ask. I walked from bach dang to the bridge, all the way to the river then down the street running parallel to Dinh Bo Linh, and found nothing. I did find hot tocs with men in them and no sign of girls. Non asked me if I wanted massage and the ones that I asked just giggled like little girls and shook their hands in the air (no in vietnamese I guess). This is the second time I've tried to find hot tocs on Dinh Bo Linh, both times I came up empty handed.
Is this just bad intel or am I missing something.
LAT.[/QUOTE]The dinh bo linh places I haven't been to in the last few years. I knew some had closed but I actually had an argument with a taxi driver insisting the places still existed. He said he dropped customers off only last week ago. Sorry I haven't checked the intel.
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Prices for hot tocs BJ places
[QUOTE=Mogwai;1646722]I went to another Hot Toc at Nguyn Phi Khanh yesterday and this time I payed in advance: 200.000 for the 'mama' and 300.000 for the girl..[/QUOTE]Just a tip guys for prices at hot tocs BJ places.
The price is generally 100-150 k for shared rooms.
And 150-200 k for private room.
The tip for the girl is generally 100-150 k.
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[QUOTE=Sidtip;1648027]If you read all the messages that followed you would see that my clues were enough for someone else to find both places and he then went on to name one. These places are still there. Read the posts and you will discover it all. Saigon is hotter than hell if you know where to look.[/QUOTE]And why should we "follow clues?" Report where the place is. We all know that mongering is fun. So your report had no substance. What's the point man? Might as well say something like "I got a BJ. " Well great for you! I thought we were here to share info not play "clue. " And I find it very hard to believe that local authorities read these pages looking to shut down hot toks. I'm sure they know what's going on from boots on the ground or locals that call the police. Anyway. Good mongering to you.
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[QUOTE=Rokraida;1648764]Just a tip guys for prices at hot tocs BJ places.
The price is generally 100-150 k for shared rooms.
And 150-200 k for private room.
The tip for the girl is generally 100-150 k.[/QUOTE]Thanks, that's good info. I knew I paid too much.
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[QUOTE=FruitNinja;1648854]And why should we "follow clues?" Report where the place is. We all know that mongering is fun. So your report had no substance. What's the point man? Might as well say something like "I got a BJ. " Well great for you! I thought we were here to share info not play "clue. " And I find it very hard to believe that local authorities read these pages looking to shut down hot toks. I'm sure they know what's going on from boots on the ground or locals that call the police. Anyway. Good mongering to you.[/QUOTE]FN, I think in this case if you go back and read the forum around that time, you will see that in the posts after the clues, someone did go and post the address anyway. Sorry I don't remember the exact address but it was on Bui Vien, and you'll find it if you just go back and read. Sidtip explained his feelings about why he did it that way, and from what he said it was both because and also to make the sharing a bit fun. As you said, like a game. He's the type of guy who, if someone PM'd him saying they couldn't find the clues, he probably woud have just told them via PM.
About whether authorities read things here, I have no idea. I don't see why it would be hard to believe. In this city, so many places have been shut down. The district 1 bar scene has been nearly eliminated. Are they finding out by internet? Probably not in those cases, because the local cops knew where those places were already. But amongst the locals, discretion is always the rule. It could be that the way it works is that, if a place becomes too popular it gets to be too noticeable, and that's when the cops pull the plug. So maybe it's not cops reading the forum directly, maybe it's cops responding to the place being much too noticeable in the community, which has happened partly because of its being popularized through the forum.
Anyway, Sidtip wasn't being a dick, he came to the forum with his info very much in the spirit of sharing and also, something not too common here, fun.
I do know that there are some members who fit the description you give, but Sidtip just isn't like that.
One of my favorites is the tourist type who comes here, gets taken to some hidden place that a driver took him to, has a great experience that he reports in detail, and comes on here after he's left the country to tell us this. Then when you ask him where it is, he doesn't remember, he didn't get the address. He gives details that are useless (it was a narrow street, it was a few blocks after a bridge, there was a Vietcombank ATM a few doors down, but I can't remember how far away exactly, it was dark, etc etc.).
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Clueless
Dear friends,
This is my first trip to Asia and I am so overwhelmed by all the differences in culture etc that In totally lost orientation. I have even difficulties to cross a street and my search for girls has, despite all the reports here, being not successful. I am really keen to test a blowjob place so if anyone would have then time tonite or tomorrow afternoon / evening to make a joint excursion I would be really grateful. And yeah, I am not an undercover James Bond guy or something loke that. As you can see in the reports I am usually hunting in Eastern Europe!
Cheers
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[QUOTE=GoEast;1649554]Dear friends,
This is my first trip to Asia and I am so overwhelmed by all the differences in culture etc that In totally lost orientation. I have even difficulties to cross a street and my search for girls has, despite all the reports here, being not successful. I am really keen to test a blowjob place so if anyone would have then time tonite or tomorrow afternoon / evening to make a joint excursion I would be really grateful. And yeah, I am not an undercover James Bond guy or something loke that. As you can see in the reports I am usually hunting in Eastern Europe!
Cheers[/QUOTE]I can imagine that Saigon is a real culture shock if this is your first time here, LOL! Thailand might have been a better choice for you.
I'm not in Saigon at the moment but it is really not that hard to find a hot tóc. For example: write down 'Nguyên Phi Khanh' on a piece of paper (or on your phone if it can handle the spelling), show it to a taxi driver and off you go. Let him stop at the beginning of the street (he doesn't need to know where you're going) and start walking. It's not really a long street and the hot tócs are easy to spot because, well... most of them have a sign that says 'hot tóc'.
If you're too shy or afraid to enter one of these places then don't worry. There is often sitting a man or woman outside who will wave at you and invite you in.
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[QUOTE=GoEast;1649554]Dear friends,
This is my first trip to Asia and I am so overwhelmed by all the differences in culture etc that In totally lost orientation. I have even difficulties to cross a street and my search for girls has, despite all the reports here, being not successful. I am really keen to test a blowjob place so if anyone would have then time tonite or tomorrow afternoon / evening to make a joint excursion I would be really grateful. And yeah, I am not an undercover James Bond guy or something loke that. As you can see in the reports I am usually hunting in Eastern Europe!
Cheers[/QUOTE]GE, most hot tocs will not do BJ but you might get a HJ. Of course Benny's is one of the exceptions. Search Benny's in this forum and take a taxi there. I've always had a good time there but none of the Benny's girls will go to your hotel. I must've tried ten times but was never successful. Now I just go to PI and Thailand. Most all of those girls are BJ friendly.
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[QUOTE=DCups;1650085]GE, most hot tocs will not do BJ but you might get a HJ. [/QUOTE]So I was lucky to get a BJ both times I went to Nguyên Phi Khanh?
I thought massage parlors were HJ only (and sometimes a BJ if you're lucky) but that you can almost be certain to get a BJ in a hot toc.
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[QUOTE=Mogwai;1650249]So I was lucky to get a BJ both times I went to Nguyn Phi Khanh?
I thought massage parlors were HJ only (and sometimes a BJ if you're lucky) but that you can almost be certain to get a BJ in a hot toc.[/QUOTE]Congratulations! That must be one of the exceptions. I've never been to that one.
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Every one
Of the spots on NPK is Blow-and-Go, from my experience.
Granted, most of that experience is pre-austerity measures (in HCM, about a year ago).
But actually I think I did pop in to one of them a few months ago and it was the same.
(Just be careful not to either over-tip or get scammed on the price, as is common).
There are about 3 of them on the right side, and a couple on the left. I find that I used to.
End up in the last one down (yellow sign on the left I think?) the street because it was.
My last chance to test my nerve after balking at the earlier ones on the right!
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Thanks
[QUOTE=Wendella;1649074]Anyway, Sidtip wasn't being a dick, he came to the forum with his info very much in the spirit of sharing and also, something not too common here, fun.
I do know that there are some members who fit the description you give, but Sidtip just isn't like that.
One of my favorites is the tourist type who comes here, gets taken to some hidden place that a driver took him to, has a great experience that he reports in detail, and comes on here after he's left the country to tell us this. Then when you ask him where it is, he doesn't remember, he didn't get the address. He gives details that are useless (it was a narrow street, it was a few blocks after a bridge, there was a Vietcombank ATM a few doors down, but I can't remember how far away exactly, it was dark, etc etc.).[/QUOTE]Thanks Wendella,
I think some people miss the point sometimes. A lot of people come on here asking for addresses and stuff and you will find some on this site. But part of the fun is also the hunt. I am still in touch with so many of the girls I meet and I don't want them to suffer any problems because I post their addresses on this site. My posts are mostly to show that Saigon is an amazing place and there is plenty of fun to be had if you look around. Some people come on here and say it's slow and boring. They are so wrong. All you need to do is pound the streets and follow the clues. There are stunning girls everywhere and there are places offering a lot of fun. Go out and explore and find them FN and you will have a lot more fun than getting a taxi to a place for a simple blowjob and then a taxi home again.
Yes, there are better places. Yes, Thailand is fun. Yes, Cambodia is cheap. But these cities don't have anything that you can't find in Vietnam. You just need to look.
One little Thai experience that I can't stop thinking about since I got home. I met a girl in a bar. A working girl playing pool with her "brother" and "work mate". Anyway she knew I was interested because I stared at her bending over the table for an hour and she kept coming over for a chat between shots and we touched arms and hands. She said when her brother and friend left I should follow them all and she would meet me in another bar once they got in a taxi. I followed and we went into another bar. She was drunk because her group had bought a bottle of Scotch and she had drunk her fair share. So we were in this bad that didn't have lady drinks and she didn't need them anyway and we cuddled and touched and her bra came off and we touched and cuddled and got the waitress to join in the cuddles and touches until finally she forced me to go home with her. She already had a pocketful of money from me and I said she could just leave with it but she wanted to fuck. So we went back to the hotel and I got to try something new. She got me on the bed and started sucking my cock and then licking my butt and forcing her tongue inside it. She was extreme. Then came the good part. We lay beside each other and I started rubbing her. One finger inside then two. Then 3 then she said try 4 which I did. Then she said try 5.
And I did. And then OMG I kept going and I put my whole hand inside her. I'm not a big dude so its not a huge hand but OMG it felt amazing. Its tight and hot and wet and you can feel this part that makes her cum so easily. We used lube and put it back in a few times because she was as amazed at me that we did it and she wanted to see how it felt in different places. It hurts if you keep your hand straight and touch deep inside so just keep your hand in a ball. I can't stop thinking about it. We are still in touch now that I'm home and she sends me pics of her sexy butt and with her finger in the hole. She insists I come back and fuck her in the ass and I probably will. I met her the night before I was flying out. Such shit timing. Please respect girls and don't try to get your fist inside them but if a girl wants it I think I can feel good for them as well as for us. I had been inside her before I put my fist in her and she was not loose. She was slim and in her 20's. The reason I noticed her was because she dressed like an hot hot hot office girl and she runs a small company, so she is not a total working girl although she acts like one in bed. She might just be my most perfect girl yet. But I probably say that about all of them.
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NPK hot toc
[QUOTE=DCups;1650085]GE, most hot tocs will not do BJ but you might get a HJ. Of course Benny's is one of the exceptions. Search Benny's in this forum and take a taxi there. I've always had a good time there but none of the Benny's girls will go to your hotel. I must've tried ten times but was never successful. Now I just go to PI and Thailand. Most all of those girls are BJ friendly.[/QUOTE]To the Cups.
I got BBBJ in 2 of the NPK massage place on my trip to HMC 2 yr ago clean place with just a curtain and bed service is better than in Benny cost is more the girl is younger, I think it was 280 k back then they want to paid first I told them after they want to charge me more after I just drop 300 k on the desk and walk out.
Fast eddie 48.
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This man walks the walk
You're solid enough in my book, a man of few words, but also few moments wasted.
And your intel? I'd say pretty accurate.
In fact, the walkaway price may be a bit higher today (see the inflation spiel a few weeks back).
But that's to be taken in your stride. A beer isn't the same price as it was 10 years ago, is it?
So why should a shag? Or a BBJ?
I usually take the same tack as Eddie in these BnG's. Best to go in Commando! - go alone in the afternoon.
On your first visit don't betray sheepishness in your Body Language upon the approach. They can see you thru.
The tinted glass! Move about solidly and with purpose (this kind of advice works well in any endeavor my friends).
Once you've ascertained your venue is legit, walk right in like you're Norm from Cheers. Hmmm, maybe a bad.
Example. LOL.
Walk in like you are their favorite customer. They will treat you according to your BL if you sell it right. In the room.
However, is when it often can go wrong. Perhaps she impressed you with her (fill in this part with your own lascivious proclivities).
You've released your tension!
Unfortunately, you are now very vulnerable to tip demands. And if you're like me, you give her 200 k for her dedicated.
Customer service.
When you come back down, hopefully wearing a sheepish yet kingly grin, go up the counter and give 200 k more.
But if she doesn't squeeze you for tip upstairs. See Eddie's post.
But either way= Not more than 500 should be spent for the whole deal, unless there were amazing special services.
Ideally 300 k, but these days I feel like cheap Charles if I go below 4.
[QUOTE=FastEddie48;1652238]To the Cups.
I got BBBJ in 2 of the NPK massage place on my trip to HMC 2 yr ago clean place with just a curtain and bed service is better than in Benny cost is more the girl is younger, I think it was 280 k back then they want to paid first I told them after they want to charge me more after I just drop 300 k on the desk and walk out.
Fast eddie 48.[/QUOTE]
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Newbie in HCM
Following the instructions given by Macpaul went to NPK by myself mid afternoon and checked one of the BJ places. Mamasan tried to push me for 500 k all included which I declined. We finally agreed 200+200 and I actually paid everything at the end.
There was a Vietnamese guy at the time who was paying 200 k at the counter before taking the girl upstairs and mamasan saw I knew how much he paid.
That probably helped with the negotiation. I actually wonder how much locals pay.
Anyway one girl grabbed me to go upstairs then we entered the room and she took my shorts off once I was laying on the back.
She had big tits which I sucked heavily she took off her panty so I could play with her pussy.
Her BJ was very nice very noisy she even provided some ass rimming which I enjoyed. At one point she put her pussy in my face so we ended up in 69 position.
I m usually long to come so the whole thing probably lasts about 40/45 mn.
I wonder if it s possible to fuck these girls and how much it would be then.
Will come back. Nice experience in the center of the city.
If any member wants to meet I m in town until the end of the month.
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Newbie in HCM part2
After my first memorable experience I couldn't wait to go back to another BJ place in this street. I entered the premises was quoted 200+200 and tried to push for 150+150. And it worked hurrah!
So do locals pay 200 k including everything? I start thinking so.
This time I took my time and choose a girl I really liked.
Petite nice tits small ass. Nice smile. Promising.
We went to the room I laid down on the table she removed my shorts then removed her bras and panties and started giving me energetic BJ.
I tried to insert my fingers simultaneously in her ass and in her pussy and she didn't say anything so I spent all the time fingering her in both holes and came by grabbing her left tit with the other hand. Delightful.
Her service was a bit mechanical but still OK.
I entered another BJ place after this and was quoted 400 not 500 k. Probably can be bargained to 300 k too there.
Since Benny s is closed at this time this sounds the cheapest option in the center so far.
If anybody knows better please tell me I'd like to test it.
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Benny's area
Anyone knows if there are hoctoc places near the old Benny's, now that it is gone. I recently went by and don't see the two places anymore. I used to have some fun and nice take outs from the area. I am willing to share any info if anyone has some too.
Thanks in advance.
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I disagree
[QUOTE=DCups;1650085]GE, most hot tocs will not do BJ but you might get a HJ. Of course Benny's is one of the exceptions. Search Benny's in this forum and take a taxi there. I've always had a good time there but none of the Benny's girls will go to your hotel. I must've tried ten times but was never successful. Now I just go to PI and Thailand. Most all of those girls are BJ friendly.[/QUOTE]Sorry DCups, but I disagree, there are many hot tocs out there that give everything from just a hair cut and ear cleaning up to FS you just have to look around. Hell I don't even take taxis any more, unless I'm in a hurry, because you just breeze by some great hot tocs. I just hop a bus to a well known area, like out by the airport and use my shanks mares to do my searching of hot tocs. They are all over every district in ho chi minh. I can actually say that I had 3 FS hot tocs with in 5 minutes walk from my hotel on truong son near the airport during my last and very recent trip. All 3 had hot little 20 yr olds too and were 800,000 vd all in for full service. One did me so good I had to rest the next 3 hours before I could venture out for another (god bless viagra) . I love vietnam for several reasons, one of them being the food, cheap and good, the friendliness of the people, and the readily available hot wet young pussy.
If you are a well posted paying member of this board feel free to pm me for the addresses, and by well posted I mean some field reports that are helpful to other members and not just bragging about getting free pussy or asking where there are places to deposit your seed. And no I don't charge for this service like another well known a** hat on this forum.
Happy pooning, LAT.
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Tang is right except for the part about taking taxis in a hurry. Taxis only slow you down in this mad traffic.
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[QUOTE=LuvAsianTang;1657479]Sorry DCups, but I disagree, there are many hot tocs out there that give everything from just a hair cut and ear cleaning up to FS you just have to look around. Hell I don't even take taxis any more, unless I'm in a hurry, because you just breeze by some great hot tocs. I just hop a bus to a well known area, like out by the airport and use my shanks mares to do my searching of hot tocs. They are all over every district in ho chi minh. I can actually say that I had 3 FS hot tocs with in 5 minutes walk from my hotel on truong son near the airport during my last and very recent trip. All 3 had hot little 20 yr olds too and were 800,000 vd all in for full service. One did me so good I had to rest the next 3 hours before I could venture out for another (god bless viagra) . I love vietnam for several reasons, one of them being the food, cheap and good, the friendliness of the people, and the readily available hot wet young pussy.
If you are a well posted paying member of this board feel free to pm me for the addresses, and by well posted I mean some field reports that are helpful to other members and not just bragging about getting free pussy or asking where there are places to deposit your seed. And no I don't charge for this service like another well known a** hat on this forum.
Happy pooning, LAT.[/QUOTE]Good to know. Thanks, LAT. I don't know if I will be coming to Vietnam again anytime soon but I will PM you. .
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Visiting HCMC in February
I have visited HCMC 3 times, the last time was in April 2009. I went to Benny's many times. I used to pay 200 k up front (which I was told) and tipped the girls another 100 k which they did not expect. After reading the last 20+ pages of this thread, I realized that I was over-charged. But this thread in those days had very info on hoc tocs. I must say that I enjoyed every session. All the girls were very pretty, very nice and friendly and would not stop until I popped, no matter how long it took.
Anyway, I will be coming back to HCMC in the first week of February, staying for 5 days. I am looking forward to visiting hoc tocs again. I hope LE will ease up by then. In the mean time, I will keep reading this thread for new intel. Brothers, keep up the good work.
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[QUOTE=LuvAsianTang;1657479]I can actually say that I had 3 FS hot tocs with in 5 minutes walk from my hotel on truong son near the airport during my last and very recent trip.
[/QUOTE]Is the area around the airport a nice place to stay? With a lot of restaurants and coffee shops (with Western style coffee)?
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Correct me if I'm wrong
[QUOTE=AmericanThief;1657554]Tang is right except for the part about taking taxis in a hurry. Taxis only slow you down in this mad traffic.[/QUOTE]I do believe that there is a definite pecking order in traffic: first the Mercedes, then big trucks then buses then taxis then all other cars and minivans then motorbikes and bikes then the lowly pedestrian, in that order. No one will fuck with a Mercedes because there may be the driver of a rich and powerful man behind the wheel, trucks just push through traffic like fat Albert in a crowded park, as do buses, blaring their distinct sounding horns just to let you know that they are going to crush you like the bug you are as the motor bike riders look upon them in fear. Annoying taxis thread their way thru traffic honking and veering away from buses and trucks but thru hordes of motorbikes and pedestrians who look upon them with disdain and fear. Motorbikes, oh my god motorbikes, just go in a steady flow like a river of crocodiles, tail to nose in hunt of the lowly pedestrian who walks slowly and diligently thru the river of Mercedes, trucks, buses, taxis, and croco-bikes hoping to live long enough to see the other side of the street just one more time in their pitiful lives. Someone Please correct me on the order if I'm wrong.
Thats why I prefer to ride the bus in saigon and watch the river part as we saunter thru the rest of the insignificant others without fear.
And besides, sometimes I get to talk with a cute little viet college student who is desperate to practice her English on a real English speaking foreigner. I've actually gotten a few cell numbers that way from really cute girls, on my way to search for the hot tocs.
I do sin cerely enjoy vietnam. LAT.
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LAT.
I always rent a scooter from the local hotel where ever city I travel to. It is usually very cheap 80 k a day or 1 mil a month. Just ask the security or receptionist. I find traveling on scooter relaxing and enjoyable. Yea sometimes it's mad crazy dash during rush hours mornings and evenings but if you are patience and just follow the crowd instead of trying to beat them seems to work best for me. I been traveling this way for over five years in all cities of VN. No I don't have a VN license. I do have a US motorcycle endorsement as well as several bikes upto 1800 CC. I have been stopped on several occasions and just politely smile and showed a 100 k and I'm on my way again.
Mongering and sightseeing this way is definitely the most enjoyable way to travel. I definitely do not care to do xe om. Walk scooter or taxi are best options for me.
I wished there was a meetup for mongers to share some day. Might be fun.
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Renting a bike.
[QUOTE=CRLuverGuy;1658600]LAT.
I always rent a scooter from the local hotel where ever city I travel to. It is usually very cheap 80 k a day or 1 mil a month. Just ask the security or receptionist. I find traveling on scooter relaxing and enjoyable. Yea sometimes it's mad crazy dash during rush hours mornings and evenings but if you are patience and just follow the crowd instead of trying to beat them seems to work best for me. I been traveling this way for over five years in all cities of VN. No I don't have a VN license. I do have a US motorcycle endorsement as well as several bikes upto 1800 CC. I have been stopped on several occasions and just politely smile and showed a 100 k and I'm on my way again.
Mongering and sightseeing this way is definitely the most enjoyable way to travel. I definitely do not care to do xe om. Walk scooter or taxi are best options for me.
I wished there was a meetup for mongers to share some day. Might be fun.[/QUOTE]I agree with you and I have driven motorbike in saigon, and I'm considering renting one next time I'm there. I was a bit worried about the license but 100 k is doable its only 5 dollars after all. When I'm in thailand and there is a police stop happening I just stare straight forward and drive by ignoring them, ha ha it works every time. They are after the easy buck and can't be bothered actually chasing someone down just to make 10 bucks when they can just wait for the next 3 easy ones.
I have met several brethren in thailand and the phils and had a great time sharing info and bar hopping. Vietnam is a different kind of mongering place being that it's kind of underground and you can go to jail if you get busted, and get deported if you live there. Most of the mongers who live and work there are paranoid because if this, so a meet up for mongers would probably not include any expats. I would be up for a meet however, if we are there at the same time. But then I have more balls than brains ha ha. Any arrangements would have to be made through private messages though. I won't be going back for a while so this will be back burner until I make plans again.
Later LAT.
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Renting a motorcycle is no big deal, but two warnings.
1st. Carry two wallets. First wallet is your main wallet with everything. This is hidden away from police somehow.
2nd wallet has 200,000 vnd. This is the wallet you pull out when stopped by the mafia police. This is the typical fine for everything. 200,000 and you're on your way. Don't let them catch you with a load of dollars and dongs. They will [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] you and take your bike.
The other warning. A lot of rental bikes get stolen and then you're responsible to pay for the bike. Sometimes I wonder if the guy renting the bikes has another guy go and steal it. Last night I saw a guy steal a bike right in front of a very safe and crowded cafe. He must have had a key. Now the foreigner guy has to pay 11 million dong for the bike. I don't know. It seemed sketchy. Just be sure to always use parking lots and ticket services. Never leave you bike alone for 1 minute. Make sure there is always a guard and always get a ticket.
I fucked a barely legal girl last week. Short, chubby, brown skin, glasses, multiples, this is really what you get for free if you're over 30. Not complaining, but LAT do yo live in VN?
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AT,
You are spot on with moto driving and wallets. Exactly how I manga around the cities. Only carry a few hundred thousands and smaller bills in the show off wallet. Otherwise I don't carry extra cash on me but instead hidden on my moto or bags.
Are you living there now? I will be back to HCMC after holidays and before tet. Hoping to find new adventures with hoctoc takeouts or similar. I used to go to Benny's area airport and D1 hotels area. Any suggestions for daytime takeouts ST regulars that are full service fun? My old contacts are gone now and it's been over a year since I last had fun there. Next beer on me.
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[QUOTE=LuvAsianTang;1658696]I agree with you and I have driven motorbike in saigon, and I'm considering renting one next time I'm there. I was a bit worried about the license but 100 k is doable its only 5 dollars after all. When I'm in thailand and there is a police stop happening I just stare straight forward and drive by ignoring them, ha ha it works every time. They are after the easy buck and can't be bothered actually chasing someone down just to make 10 bucks when they can just wait for the next 3 easy ones.
I have met several brethren in thailand and the phils and had a great time sharing info and bar hopping. Vietnam is a different kind of mongering place being that it's kind of underground and you can go to jail if you get busted, and get deported if you live there. Most of the mongers who live and work there are paranoid because if this, so a meet up for mongers would probably not include any expats. I would be up for a meet however, if we are there at the same time. But then I have more balls than brains ha ha. Any arrangements would have to be made through private messages though. I won't be going back for a while so this will be back burner until I make plans again.
Later LAT.[/QUOTE]About going to jail. When I was in District 5 this year I saw most massage places have a window on the door. Any cop can walk by and see what is going on. A BJ was it. But it was very visible. I don't understand why they don't have hidden rooms like in China where a wall moves to another room where we are safer. My next trip next year I will request a more hidden room if possible or anything safer. Does not have to be nice but I would rather be in an uncomfortable room free from view than risking trouble. I will say that all the hot toc places where not the same and some where safer than others. But you don't know until you pick the girl and go to the room. I want to be a little safer next time.
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NPK massage
I took a cab and the driver dropped me off at NPK and Huyen. There are two hot toc's at the corner.
A guy took me in. Nothing fancy about the place. There were 5 girls who hardly spoke English and wrote 200 in a paper and said 500 total with tips. We agreed to 400 (200+200). I prepaid 400 and it was very stupid.
The girl took me in and signed me to change. I was butt naked and waited some time for her to reappear.
She came back and asked to put the pants on and lie down. She lowered her dress and dropped my pants and started to hand job me.
I signed showing mouth and she said something in Viet like problem in her nose or lips something and refused.
Once she cummed me, she cleaned and left. While I was waiting for a massage she came back and asked to dress up.
I asked for a massage but at this point I was pissed and decided to leave.
NPK doesn't look like a safe area to walk.
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[QUOTE=CRLuverGuy;1659066]AT,
Any suggestions for daytime takeouts ST regulars that are full service fun? [/QUOTE]No, this is a problem. The industry here doesn't cater for daytime. Girls work about 8 pm to 6 am. While its not impossible to find daytime action, your choices will be limited. The sexy girls come out at night.
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Where I live
AmericanThief,
Right at the moment I'm staying in the USA. I live mostly on airlines flying from one mongering venue to another, I'm retired now and living la vida loca (the crazy life).
Happy mongering, LAT.
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Bennys
[QUOTE=Dragonfly22;1227393]Hit Benny's 3 times on my recent HCMC visit. No hassles and easy to find. All in all a better experience than NPK st #84 only reason being it's closer to where I stay and no price haggling. Some girls better than others.[/QUOTE]Went yesterday. All seemed to be range of 6 looks but service was strong and good. Prince including tip was 400,000.
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[QUOTE=JswdJswd;1666483]Went yesterday. All seemed to be range of 6 looks but service was strong and good. Prince including tip was 400000.[/QUOTE]Again as I mentioned there is a place and girl in d10 she is known as the wonder tongue. Looks 7. Price 100+150 tip ie 250 k all in.
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Levy only a massage
Went to Levy's District 1 on the main tourist street. Girls were pretty but no service except a standard massage available. Wanted 200,000 plus 200,000 tip.
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[QUOTE=JswdJswd;1666483]Went yesterday. All seemed to be range of 6 looks but service was strong and good. Prince including tip was 400,000.[/QUOTE]Hi JswdJswd, I will be in HCM next couple weeks, can you up date the address of Benny's pleased. If I don't mistake, it's 110 of DBP, and on the other side of the bridge right?
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110 Benny is correct address. I stopped by this week around noon and only had about 4 girls inside and 2 local guys hanging outside. Girls were 5-7 at best young 20's. 400 k total for BBBJ 30 min or so. Forgot the name but mine was best looking and inexperienced so it took a bit. She kept stopping and going were mechanical didn't really want to do it. I felt for her. Roaming was allowed and very wet. She tried and didn't give up so made it worthwhile.
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[QUOTE=CRLuverGuy;1669439]110 Benny is correct address. I stopped by this week around noon and only had about 4 girls inside and 2 local guys hanging outside. Girls were 5-7 at best young 20's. 400 k total for BBBJ 30 min or so. Forgot the name but mine was best looking and inexperienced so it took a bit. She kept stopping and going were mechanical didn't really want to do it. I felt for her. Roaming was allowed and very wet. She tried and didn't give up so made it worthwhile.[/QUOTE]Hi CRLuverGuy, Thanks for the address it's 110 Dien Bien Phu?
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[QUOTE=Don1010ho;1669529]Hi CRLuverGuy, Thanks for the address it's 110 Dien Bien Phu?[/QUOTE]Yes take DBP away from nearest traffic circle towards district 1, ie. Cho Ben Thanh. Stay on right side after crossing bridge about 3 blocks on right. Large white number on door 110 and Benny. You have to slow down or you will miss it. It's small you can drive inside the gate or park outside. Otherwise taxi a few doors down and walk. They usually have food and other vendors in front.
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[QUOTE=CRLuverGuy;1669603]Yes take DBP away from nearest traffic circle towards district 1, ie. Cho Ben Thanh. Stay on right side after crossing bridge about 3 blocks on right. Large white number on door 110 and Benny. You have to slow down or you will miss it. It's small you can drive inside the gate or park outside. Otherwise taxi a few doors down and walk. They usually have food and other vendors in front.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info.
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Ben ny's
For those who want to go to Ben ny's using a taxi, DBP is a very long street and numbering is specific to a district. So there are several 110 DBP in HCMC.
The full address to give to the taxi is 110 DBP, Binh Thanh district.
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110 Benny
The same place on DBP. The old lady mgr will show you a piece of paper with 200 k + 200 k. She will then ask you for 400 k upfront. Just say no 200 k now and 200 k after. I just drop 200 k on counter and then walk in the door to tables. She just smiles and reminds the next girl up to remember to collect your tip. This time I didn't choose because I saw who was next. She was a hot 8 or 9 name Lan. She was tall 5-5 by Vn standard and about 100 lbs. She didn't waste anytime with chit chat in the barber chairs which is first rooms enter. She asked if I wanted to just go upstairs and relax. So up I went to the far stall. She dims the light and takes off my clothes. She takes off her bottoms and leer bra but pulls up her shirt. Wow amazing view in the dim lights and I can feel she had a hard body and the tightest pussy you can imagine. We seemed hit it off so pretty much all the roaming was allowed as well as kissing all over me. However I did not want to partake in lip to lip service because I'm sure it has been all over others. She seemed to enjoyed herself while giving me one of the best BBBJ and deep throat. She had to catch her breath I think because she was giving Os while I was fingering deep inside her. She smiled and blushed then continued on me. I spent well over 45 min with her. She took it all in like a champ and didn't miss a drop. She even continued through the climax and beyond nonstop. Afterwards she cleaned me up and asked me to rest a little bit. I tip her 200 k and another 50 k for water and short massage at the end. She was happy to please. I would repeat just for her. She would not do take out but maybe later as we get to know more on other visits. Anyone have other places around the area of DBP to share?
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New to the area
I am coming in town March 11 and know little of the area. I heard it is broken up into number districts like 1 2 3 and 4? If that is the case is 1 the best night life type place? Where would you suggest to go where the action is close and still be able to get a nice hotel, which any recommendation would be great?
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Try [URL]booking.com[/URL] search for two stars hotel in district 1 under $30 a night. Three stars hotels may not let a Vn girl into your room and if so you may have to pay for an extra room. Try Pham Ngu Lao aka backpacker street and area much action here all daylong.
[QUOTE=GeorgeSims;1674193]I am coming in town March 11 and know little of the area. I heard it is broken up into number districts like 1 2 3 and 4? If that is the case is 1 the best night life type place? Where would you suggest to go where the action is close and still be able to get a nice hotel, which any recommendation would be great?[/QUOTE]
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You CAN take a Vietnamese girl to a 3, 4, or even 5 Star hotel
Not sure why this is in this thread and not the Hotel thread, but...See my post earlier today. I ordered a girl via WeChat the other night at 9:00 pm from the Park Hyatt (5 star). Following a phone call from the front desk, she was in my bed without me ever leaving the room. Supposedly the front desks will let the girl come up if its before 10:00 pm. Not sure what happens if the girl stays the night, but I rarely am after that.
[QUOTE=CRLuverGuy;1674532]Try [URL]booking.com[/URL] search for two stars hotel in district 1 under $30 a night. Three stars hotels may not let a Vn girl into your room and if so you may have to pay for an extra room. Try Pham Ngu Lao aka backpacker street and area much action here all daylong.[/QUOTE]
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111 be Nguyen Phi Khanh. P. Tan Djnh
This was my first experience at a Hot Toc and it was pretty damn good I thought. An agent that I work with had set me up with a girl for a Thursday afternoon around 2:00 pm. She was billed as 18, thin with large breasts. He told me she had only been in the business 3 days and was very fresh. Well she turned out to be a little chubby for my taste, could barely do a blowjob, wouldn't let me finger her, and barely let me fuck her. I still paid the 1. 0 million ($50) but told the agent that I was going to try some other agent next time because I was unhappy with this experience.
He was clearly disappointed to hear me say this because he quickly offers to take me to a great Hot Toc shop where the girls are terrific and he would pay. Now, I usually don't like just a blow job, I like the full event, but you don't say no to an offer like this if you are an adventurous monger like me. So I jump on the back of his motorbike and we tool around for 15 minutes before stopping at the above address (google it if you want to know where it is). It was 3:30/4:00 pm and there were 4 -6 girls. He encouraged me to pick two. Ok, you're paying! I pick one cute spinner with a nice looking body, maybe 22 yrs old, and then one who was about the same age, a little bigger but with huge tits figuring that squeezing those would be good fun.
They took me upstairs into a room with 5 massage tables divided by curtains. Fortunately there was no one else in the room and they closed the door, showed me a massage table and had me strip down to my boxers which I tried to take off but they said no. I lay face down on the table and the came out with some towels and hand wipes which they used to sanitize my hands and feet. The massage then began with them lightly pounding on my back, legs, arms, etc for maybe 5 minutes. Then came the turn and one of them reached down and pulled my underwear to my knees. I then just took them off. They then handiwiped my whole body with special attention naturally to my cock. The small spinner went down between my legs and began licking and sucking my balls and working her way up the shaft with a fair degree of skill. I closed my eyes and let out a nice moan which had her giggling. Meanwhile the Big Tits began sucking and licking my nipples. It was about this time that I reached my right hand around to pat the ass of Spinner and my left to squeeze the ass of Big Titties when I noticed that both of them had pulled their panties down to their ankles. So I just began rubbing their pussies. They modestly resisted this but shortly I had a finger up each cnut and my dick in the little ones mouth with my mouth was sucking the tits of BT. This was all working out fine!
This and variations of this went on for 20 minutes as I did everything to not blow my load all over one of their faces as they traded off sucking me. The longer it took me the more willing they were to let me do what I wanted with their bodies, obviously hoping that this would have me cum and they could be done. So, naturally I didn't cum and kept getting more action. At one memorable point, by now they both had taken a foot out of their panties so that I could spread their legs apart and get decent penetration with my digits, I had the Spinner with one leg on the ground close to my hip and the other leg up on the table next to us with her tiny cnut gaping open as I stuck my middle finger in until I hit her cervix and rubbed her asshole with my index finger. (this is where I should say that her pussy was dripping wet and I felt her lips quiver and contract as she had a shaking, whimpering orgasam- but actually I don't think she was liking it very much she just was trying to get me to finish) Big Titties is now up on the table with her twat in my face and her lips on my balls. This put me over the edge and I wrapped a leg up over her head pushing her mouth on to my cock as I unloaded a massive hot sticky load with so much force some came out her nose (not really, but it was a load of cum)
So all in all it was a pretty good 40 minutes for free. I don't know how much my agent buddy paid but he likely paid a lot less than I would have. Maybe someone else knows of this place and their prices. I might try this again.
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[QUOTE=SteelBaton;1674868]This was my first experience at a Hot Toc and it was pretty damn good I thought. An agent that I work with had set me up with a girl for a Thursday afternoon around 2:00 pm. She was billed as 18, thin with large breasts. He told me she had only been in the business 3 days and was very fresh. Well she turned out to be a little chubby for my taste, could barely do a blowjob...[/QUOTE]Wow, great review I will check that place out this November 2015! Thanks.
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[QUOTE=SteelBaton;1674868]This was my first experience at a Hot Toc and it was pretty damn good I thought. An agent that I work with had set me up with a girl for a Thursday afternoon around 2:00 pm. She was billed as 18, thin with large breasts. He told me she had only been in the business 3 days and was very fresh. Well she turned out to be a little chubby for my taste, could barely do a blowjob, wouldn't let me finger her, and barely let me fuck her. I still paid the 1. 0 million ($50) but told the agent that I was going to try some other agent next time because I was unhappy with this experience.
He was clearly disappointed to hear me say this because he quickly offers to take me to a great Hot Toc shop where the girls are terrific and he would pay. Now, I usually don't like just a blow job, I like the full event, but you don't say no to an offer like this if you are an adventurous monger like me. So I jump on the back of his motorbike and we tool around for 15 minutes before stopping at the above address (google it if you want to know where it is). It was 3:30/4:00 pm and there were 4 -6 girls. He encouraged me to pick two. Ok, you're paying! I pick one cute spinner with a nice looking body, maybe 22 yrs old, and then one who was about the same age, a little bigger but with huge tits figuring that squeezing those would be good fun.
They took me upstairs into a room with 5 massage tables divided by curtains..[/QUOTE]Is that a photo of one of your girls at this place?
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Couldn't Find Benny's
[QUOTE=CRLuverGuy;1669603]Yes take DBP away from nearest traffic circle towards district 1, ie. Cho Ben Thanh. Stay on right side after crossing bridge about 3 blocks on right. Large white number on door 110 and Benny. You have to slow down or you will miss it. It's small you can drive inside the gate or park outside. Otherwise taxi a few doors down and walk. They usually have food and other vendors in front.[/QUOTE]I walked to 110 Dien Bien Phu and found a restaurant there. I had also read there was another place at 90 Dien Bien Phu but that was also a restaurant. See pics. I must have been in the wrong area. The good news it was only a 10 minute walk or so to NPK where I got good service at #49 and again at #84 the next day.
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You went to District 1. Ben Nys is down the road in Binh Thanh district.
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From NPK head towards DBP. It's one way so you will have to go in opposite direction until you get near the traffic circle which becomes a two way road. From the circle head over the bridge and 110 DBP is about 200 m on your right (about 2 blocks). Look for white number and letters 110 Benny with small gate and entrance. Just don't be shy and head in with confidence like you've been there before.
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Just to help people out regarding addresses here. It is a little more difficult than back "home".
Addresses here are usually numbers if there is a / then more numbers.
Then you need to look for a "hem" or side street / laneway. More / then more laneways.
Then you get to the street name.
After the streetname is a F with a number or Phuong. This is also known as a "ward" Each district has number of wards, the street you are on may go through more than 1 ward, Each ward has its own numbers starting from 1.
You need to make sure you are in the correct ward / phuong before looking for the correct number.
Its easy enough to see, pretty much every house is a shophouse with its address painted on or printed on the awning above the entry. Just keep cruising along until you hit the correct ward then start looking for the number.
Ben Nys is a prime example of people going to the wrong ward and the right number.
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Levy
[QUOTE=JswdJswd;1666525]Went to Levy's District 1 on the main tourist street. Girls were pretty but no service except a standard massage available. Wanted 200,000 plus 200,000 tip.[/QUOTE]Yes this is very true. But the girls are stunning and most likely have other things going for them. Its an eye opener for first time visiters. The only thing I would go there for is a haircut, not a BJ haircut or a hot toc haircut, an actual legit haircut. I went there knowing that still tried for some play, the them did agree for a 'happy ending" because it was my birthday. But she straight up lied and nothing but an 6/10 massage. And after I gave her 200 k tip "with no extra sirvice" she grabbed another 200 k note from my hand I don't like to nickle and dime these girls but damn.
Anyways we still keep in touch and she posts all these model like photos and hot girl photos of her alone. Typical.
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Confusing!
[QUOTE=MikHcmc;1677402]Just to help people out regarding addresses here. It is a little more difficult than back "home".
Addresses here are usually numbers if there is a / then more numbers.
Then you need to look for a "hem" or side street / laneway. More / then more laneways.
Then you get to the street name.
After the streetname is a F with a number or Phuong. This is also known as a "ward" Each district has number of wards, the street you are on may go through more than 1 ward, Each ward has its own numbers starting from 1.
You need to make sure you are in the correct ward / phuong before looking for the correct number.
Its easy enough to see, pretty much every house is a shophouse with its address painted on or printed on the awning above the entry. Just keep cruising along until you hit the correct ward then start looking for the number.
Ben Nys is a prime example of people going to the wrong ward and the right number.[/QUOTE]It looks like I'm in for a treat when I start looking for these places. I'm hoping I can hook up with someone in March who knows the lay of the land so my brain doesn't explode!
YM.
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Ben Ny's
Well, I went there at 12:50 and there were about 5-6 girls. I put down 200 k but the MMS insisted that I give her 400 k. She showed me a piece of paper which stated 200 k + 200 k tip pointing to the girl standing next to me who was going to service me. She looked very hot and having read the posts here, I was not worried that I would be short-changed, so I gave her the other 200 k. The girl's name was Tui, about 22-25 yo. She had a pretty face and was always smiling. Her body was slim and well-portioned.
A nice clean-cut white guy came in just after me. I was going to make conversation with him while we sat on the barber chairs in the waiting area but he did not make eye contact so I respected his privacy. Perhaps me being Asian, he thought I was a local. If you are on this board, I would love to see your review.
I won't go into details but her service was very nice and not rushed. Actually I had trouble popping (maybe jet lag or the heat) but she never gave up. She also was very cuddly putting one leg across my body while licking my chest. She had no trouble taking off her bra and lowering her pants. I was very satisfied and gave her a tip which she was very appreciative.
On the way out, I took a good look at the other girls by pretending to see what they were doing and joking with them. One was playing with an iPad, one was eating fish & rice, the rest, yes, you guessed it, they were playing with their mobile phones. Anyway, none of the them looked as good as Tui, not even close. I was very lucky.
By the way, I visited HCMC several times in 2009-2010, and patronized another Hoc Toc (I believe it was the one on #90 Dien Bien Phu) so I knew how to get there by bus. The bus ticket used to cost 3 k. Now it's 6 k, but still very cheap. The bus gets there about as fast as a taxi in HCMC traffic. I took The blue Bus #93 from Ben Thanh Station on Pham Ngu Lao which is just opposite the Backpackers area. Stop the bus as soon as it starts crossing the river (entering Binh Thanh District). You will get off at #82A Dien Bien Phu. Take a short walk in the direction of the traffic to #110. Other buses stopping at this bus stop are #12, 50, 91, 93 & 150.
When you are done and wish to return to the city, cross the main road DBP very carefully (your threat are the motor cyclists, not the cars and trucks). Remember, you are still very weak from your CIM and are still on Cloud Nine. Once across, walk in the direction of the traffic to the bus stop is in front of #47 HBT for Buses #45, 50, 91, 93 & 150. Don't know where #45 came from or what happened to #12.
When I crossed DBP after my session, I saw a real Hoc Toc (barbershop). I got a nice haircut for 50 k (about US $2. 40). Enjoy.
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Don't cross DBP on foot
[QUOTE=FunMan13;1678342]Well, I went there at 12:50 and there were about 5-6 girls. I put down 200 k but the MMS insisted that I give her 400 k. She showed me a piece of paper which stated 200 k + 200 k tip pointing to the girl standing next to me who was going to service me. She looked very hot and having read the posts here, I was not worried that I would be short-changed, so I gave her the other 200 k. The girl's name was Tui, about 22-25 yo. She had a pretty face and was always smiling. Her body was slim and well-portioned.
A nice clean-cut white guy came in just after me. I was going to make conversation with him while we sat on the barber chairs in the waiting area but he did not make eye contact so I respected his privacy. Perhaps me being Asian, he thought I was a local. If you are on this board, I would love to see your review.
I won't go into details but her service was very nice and not rushed. Actually I had trouble popping (maybe jet lag or the heat) but she never gave up. She also was very cuddly putting one leg across my body while licking my chest. She had no trouble taking off her bra and lowering her pants. I was very satisfied and gave her a tip which she was very appreciative.
On the way out, I took a good look at the other girls by pretending to see what they were doing and joking with them. One was playing with an iPad, one was eating fish & rice, the rest, yes, you guessed it, they were playing with their mobile phones. Anyway, none of the them looked as good as Tui, not even close. I was very lucky.
By the way, I visited HCMC several times in 2009-2010, and patronized another Hoc Toc (I believe it was the one on #90 Dien Bien Phu) so I knew how to get there by bus. The bus ticket used to cost 3 k. Now it's 6 k, but still very cheap. The bus gets there about as fast as a taxi in HCMC traffic. I took The blue Bus #93 from Ben Thanh Station on Pham Ngu Lao which is just opposite the Backpackers area. Stop the bus as soon as it starts crossing the river (entering Binh Thanh District). You will get off at #82A Dien Bien Phu. Take a short walk in the direction of the traffic to #110. Other buses stopping at this bus stop are #12, 50, 91, 93 & 150.
When you are done and wish to return to the city, cross the main road DBP very carefully (your threat are the motor cyclists, not the cars and trucks). Remember, you are still very weak from your CIM and are still on Cloud Nine. Once across, walk in the direction of the traffic to the bus stop is in front of #47 HBT for Buses #45, 50, 91, 93 & 150. Don't know where #45 came from or what happened to #12.
When I crossed DBP after my session, I saw a real Hoc Toc (barbershop). I got a nice haircut for 50 k (about US $2. 40). Enjoy.[/QUOTE]To Funman.
Don't cross DBP on foot too many traffic they don't slow down for no one even the local don't do this, I don't know why you don't take a motor bike back to Binh Thanh for 10 k is your life worth more than a few cents.
Fast eddie 48.
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Motor Bike
Fast Eddie,
I traveled extensively in Asia and never have a problem crossing busy streets. You just have to know the technique. Best to follow a local. My reluctance with taking motorbike taxi or Xe Om is the hassle of haggling with them. They always quote me a ridiculous price and we have to haggle. I prefer to just walk to take the bus. I guess I am very impatient. This also happens to me in AC.
By the way, what are the current prices? Say, Pham Ngu Lao to Ben Ny? PNL to the Rex-Intercontinental hotels area? I have been quotes as high a 60 k for this short trip even though I am Asian, I must look like a dumb tourist! I succumbed to 30 k.
Thanks.
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Hot toc fail
Went looking for a hot toc yesterday and today. On a small side detour from the wife I checked in at one to see if they do indeed do extras. Spoke to one of the girls. Ly. She assure me they do. Went back in afternoon booked a VIp room to assure discretion. Upon entering tried to talk about extras. Got shut down very quickly. Told definitely none of they here. Left and was quizzed from manager. I said my misunderstanding and left. Found an address on another site and went today over past Cho Benh Thanh. As I entered very sexily dressed girls all around. Chose a girl they said. I chose The sexy girl next door. Paid for 90 minutes VIP but let them know I could stay only for 40 minutes. Had me lay on my back and spread my legs. (I had on the supplied shorts) Good start I thought.
When I suggested anything even slightly sexual was shut down. They don't do this here she assured me. I let it go on with her massaging very softly my legs. The old fella rise to full attention but got none from her.
She asked if I wanted to turn over to do my back. I said she could do my thighs and bum but shut down again.
So I stayed as I was and she continued massaging and rubbing all around my rock hard. With no satisfaction. . I tried to entice her with 500000 vnd tip but nothing. Needless to say I walked out slightly frustrated. .
Need help to find out where an English guy can go to get some satisfaction without the stress. .
Cheers
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Go To Ben Ny's
Exactly what are you looking for? A hoc Toc is only a BBBJ place, unlike a Massage parlor. For our "needs" neither can be found in District 1 unless you live here and know the places. If you have limited time and are new to the city, my suggestion is to go to another hotel (to avoid embarrassment) and ask their doorman to get you on a motorbike taxi to a HT or MP. Ask him to negotiate the fare, should be 30,000 d. Be sure to tip the doorman. Good luck.
[QUOTE=GrassCutter2;1678592]Went looking for a hot toc yesterday and today. On a small side detour from the wife I checked in at one to see if they do indeed do extras. Spoke to one of the girls. Ly. She assure me they do. Went back in afternoon booked a VIp room to assure discretion. Upon entering tried to talk about extras. Got shut down very quickly. Told definitely none of they here. Left and was quizzed from manager. I said my misunderstanding and left. Found an address on another site and went today over past Cho Benh Thanh. As I entered very sexily dressed girls all around. Chose a girl they said. I chose The sexy girl next door. Paid for 90 minutes VIP but let them know I could stay only for 40 minutes. Had me lay on my back and spread my legs. (I had on the supplied shorts) Good start I thought.
When I suggested anything even slightly sexual was shut down. They don't do this here she assured me. I let it go on with her massaging very softly my legs. The old fella rise to full attention but got none from her.
She asked if I wanted to turn over to do my back. I said she could do my thighs and bum but shut down again.
So I stayed as I was and she continued massaging and rubbing all around my rock hard. With no satisfaction. . I tried to entice her with 500000 vnd tip but nothing. Needless to say I walked out slightly frustrated. .
Need help to find out where an English guy can go to get some satisfaction without the stress. .
Cheers[/QUOTE]
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Lighting at hot tocs and blow and go
What's the lighting like at hot tocs and blow and go, and cafe? Is the lighting bright enough for you to examine their vagina before you dine?
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[QUOTE=GrassCutter2;1678592]Need help to find out where an English guy can go to get some satisfaction without the stress.
Cheers[/QUOTE]I had plenty of teasing from massage girls and they wanted stupid amounts of money for anything else so I went to Nguyen Phi Khanh street and went into a hoc toc where the girls are dressed in short orange dresses and they will sort.
You out 400,000 vnd includes the table. Went there 3 times and no issues.
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[QUOTE=StrongBad;1683511]What's the lighting like at hot tocs and blow and go, and cafe? Is the lighting bright enough for you to examine their vagina before you dine?[/QUOTE]Really? Examination of the vagina? And I'm supposed to believe this is a serious question? Let's say the lighting is good enough for an examination. How are you going to proceed? Do you really think the girl is willing to spread her legs like some Japanese Porn? How is this not trolling? A Vietnamese girl? Examine her vagina.
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[QUOTE=StrongBad;1683511]What's the lighting like at hot tocs and blow and go, and cafe? Is the lighting bright enough for you to examine their vagina before you dine?[/QUOTE]Is this lighting bright enough for you to examine their vagina before you dine?
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One of the main reasons why I would go to a hot toc is to eat pussy. From what I have heard and read online, some hot toc places, the girls go all nude and do allow you to touch and examine them.
[QUOTE=AmericanThief;1685637]Really? Examination of the vagina? And I'm supposed to believe this is a serious question? Let's say the lighting is good enough for an examination. How are you going to proceed? Do you really think the girl is willing to spread her legs like some Japanese Porn? How is this not trolling? A Vietnamese girl? Examine her vagina.[/QUOTE]
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I hope this is the right section for SW and moto bike girls. Anyways,
Generally what's the quality of moto bikes girls and SW? A 4 to 7? I don't need stunners really, especially when I am just down to bang, cause when I am banging I could really care less what her face or my face looks like. I just prefer skinny girls with some tits and ass, you know some eye candy. I am not looking for marriage so as long as she is not horrendously ugly I am happy.
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[QUOTE=FunMan13;1678492]Fast Eddie,
I traveled extensively in Asia and never have a problem crossing busy streets. You just have to know the technique. Best to follow a local. My reluctance with taking motorbike taxi or Xe Om is the hassle of haggling with them. They always quote me a ridiculous price and we have to haggle. I prefer to just walk to take the bus. I guess I am very impatient. This also happens to me in AC.
By the way, what are the current prices? Say, Pham Ngu Lao to Ben Ny? PNL to the Rex-Intercontinental hotels area? I have been quotes as high a 60 k for this short trip even though I am Asian, I must look like a dumb tourist! I succumbed to 30 k.
Thanks[/QUOTE]There's no reason why you would not take an actual taxi in Saigon, that's ridiculous. You're safe from the heat and reckless motorbike drivers.
60 k is reasonable, why would you haggle down to 30 k. Xe om needs to eat too.
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The scenario
[QUOTE=SoloTravels;1686225]There's no reason why you would not take an actual taxi in Saigon, that's ridiculous. You're safe from the heat and reckless motorbike drivers.
60 k is reasonable, why would you haggle down to 30 k. Xe om needs to eat too.[/QUOTE]Ok you are right they do have to eat too. Now having said that, the scenario is, that they always highball you at first and in asia if you take the first offer you are considered an easy mark. After getting the 60 then the next time it will be 70 then 80 etc. Are you getting the drift? You have to allow for the greed factor with asians. Negotiating is the norm in asian cultures not the exception. So if you want to drive prices up then just give them what the ask. Oh and by the way. Carry with you, at all times, a wad of tissue and a tube of KY jelly, you will need them both.
Just my 2000 dong, L A T.
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[QUOTE=LuvAsianTang;1686654]Ok you are right they do have to eat too. Now having said that, the scenario is, that they always highball you at first and in asia if you take the first offer you are considered an easy mark. After getting the 60 then the next time it will be 70 then 80 etc. Are you getting the drift? You have to allow for the greed factor with asians. Negotiating is the norm in asian cultures not the exception. So if you want to drive prices up then just give them what the ask. Oh and by the way. Carry with you, at all times, a wad of tissue and a tube of KY jelly, you will need them both.
Just my 2000 dong, L A T.[/QUOTE]"Greed factor with Asians".
"always highball".
Racism at its finest, there are a lot of things you can't haggle. Try going to Hermes and haggle.
You speak with certainty, no one is asking you to accept their price point but haggling them to a point where they would make almost nothing for their work. But have to accept it due to their circumstances is beyond cheap.
To each his own, everything depends on your financial situation. I've personally only took a Xe Om (gave the old guy 500 k, it means nothing to me but its significant to him) once, and took taxis ever since and I've been here for almost 10 months now.
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"Racism at its finest, there are a lot of things you can't haggle. ".
Awe so cute, Solo flaunting his racism card.
I didn't find anything LAT wrote racist and I am Viet kieu. I hate to haggle but I hate more when they try to screw you. Don't tell me you only find righteous people in Vietnam that always give you fair price any services. With service, in the back of my head a little voice always ask me "how much they going to fuck you".
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[QUOTE=StrongBad;1685861]One of the main reasons why I go to a hot toc is to eat pussy. [/QUOTE]You need a girlfriend.
Examination Room 2 B.
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What do you guys like more, hot tocs or cafe BJ / HJ? Iam guessing the cafe are better because you can chat with the girls where as hot tocs are a quick in and out.
[QUOTE=AmericanThief;1686960]You need a girlfriend.
Examination Room 2 B.[/QUOTE]Well then it looks like on my next trip to Nam Iam going to have to bring a battery powered lamp.
I am only visiting for 3 weeks at the most, so not really wanting to waste my time finding a girlfriend. I am too busy visiting family, hanging with cousins, going on tours to different parts of the country.
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[QUOTE=StrongBad;1686982]What do you guys like more, hot tocs or cafe BJ / HJ? Iam guessing the cafe are better because you can chat with the girls where as hot tocs are a quick in and out.
Well then it looks like on my next trip to Nam Iam going to have to bring a battery powered lamp.
I am only visiting for 3 weeks at the most, so not really wanting to waste my time finding a girlfriend. I am too busy visiting family, hanging with cousins, going on tours to different parts of the country.[/QUOTE]There are a few areas which have streets filled with cafe m where you can enter have a drink and a BBBJ from a pretty syt for 120-150 k one such area I frequent has two street with 10-15 shops. Is now currently closed due to police operations. So whilst girls are indeed back from tet there are other factors limiting cheong activities. Luckily I know another street with 6-7 hottoc where for 200 k you can find 18 yr old 8/10 give you a BBBJ.
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I agree solo, the exchange rate between the Vietnamese dong and the American dollar, isn't fair so why should locals be fair? And if you feel like you are being ripped off, well just remind yourself that your money is worth a lot so it shouldn't be a big deal, unless you choose to make it a big deal.
[QUOTE=SoloTravels;1686820]"Greed factor with Asians".
"always highball".
Racism at its finest, there are a lot of things you can't haggle. Try going to Hermes and haggle.
You speak with certainty, no one is asking you to accept their price point but haggling them to a point where they would make almost nothing for their work. But have to accept it due to their circumstances is beyond cheap.
To each his own, everything depends on your financial situation. I've personally only took a Xe Om (gave the old guy 500 k, it means nothing to me but its significant to him) once, and took taxis ever since and I've been here for almost 10 months now.[/QUOTE]
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I prefer covered BJs, I find that if you sweet talk a girl, get to know her, tip her well, she usually puts in a better effort, and even if its a covered BJ, because she puts in more effort and technique the CBJ is still excellent. I am pretty careful about herpes so I prefer CBJ over BBBJ.
[QUOTE=MutantChicken;1690171]There are a few areas which have streets filled with cafe m where you can enter have a drink and a BBBJ from a pretty syt for 120-150 k one such area I frequent has two street with 10-15 shops. Is now currently closed due to police operations. So whilst girls are indeed back from tet there are other factors limiting cheong activities. Luckily I know another street with 6-7 hottoc where for 200 k you can find 18 yr old 8/10 give you a BBBJ.[/QUOTE]
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Racism
I am Chinese although I have lived in USA for many years. However, I return to Asia very frequently.
How can I be racist with my own people? It is because I know my own people that I haggle. It's the system, the culture. Yes, after living in the West for many years I find it irritating but I am more offended if I get ripped off. Also being Asian, I know the local prices. Moreover, the majority of these vendors live (not just survive, but live) by doing business with locals, not with tourists. They get their steak and lobster when they do business with foreigners who feel sorry for them.
Give you an example: I go to a "wholesale" or "knock-off" market in Beijing or Shanghai and can buy a set of three suitcases for about US $100. Locals can get them for as low as $80 but I am happy with my purchase. Then when I see a foreigner lugging a similar suitcase, I asked them how much they pay. They would pay $70-80 for one suitcase! The same thing happens with belts, wallets, shirts, backpacks, furniture, accessories, and of course, women.
I am not making judgement. If you want to pay more, go ahead, if you are okay with it. I am not. However, if I am happy with the service, I usually give a western-sized tip, as much as one-third of the price, or I take them to a nice dinner which I know they will never be able to afford (anyway, it's more fun to eat with company than alone).
A point about taxis: in some Asian countries like Japan, China and Singapore, taking taxis are okay because the drivers do not cheat you, either by over-charging, faulty meter or going on a longer route. Perhaps these drivers are better paid, or better regulated. But in some countries, it's a hassle.
Yes, like L.A.T., just my 2,000 dong too.
Funman13.
[QUOTE=SoloTravels;1686820]"Greed factor with Asians".
"always highball".
Racism at its finest, there are a lot of things you can't haggle. Try going to Hermes and haggle.
You speak with certainty, no one is asking you to accept their price point but haggling them to a point where they would make almost nothing for their work. But have to accept it due to their circumstances is beyond cheap.
To each his own, everything depends on your financial situation. I've personally only took a Xe Om (gave the old guy 500 k, it means nothing to me but its significant to him) once, and took taxis ever since and I've been here for almost 10 months now.[/QUOTE]
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Hi guys,
I'm wondering if the hot toc girls do CBJ too or only BBBJ?
Because I went to a massage place in HCMC before and I asked for a CBJ but the told me only BBBJ.
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Massage parlors across from Pullman hotel
I have been in HCMC a few months and recently had a good experience at one of the massage places across from the Pullman hotel. There are maybe ten girls to choose from and you pay 200-300 vnd for a massage room. Once up in the room you negotiate a price. I paid 500 VND for an excellent BBBJ that lasted about 20 minutes. I went back again and wasn't as lucky be / see the girl wouldn't give head only HJ. Its probably more expensive than other places be / see its in a tourist area but it was fun and easy. Vietnam is a good place for mongering, will try to contribute useful posts.
Cheers
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You sound very naïve. Most chicks would rather give a CBJ than a BBBJ. Just bring your own condom. And put it on.
[QUOTE=Bugattii;1717885]Hi guys,
I'm wondering if the hot toc girls do CBJ too or only BBBJ?
Because I went to a massage place in HCMC before and I asked for a CBJ but the told me only BBBJ.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=SteelBaton;1725462]You sound very nave. Most chicks would rather give a CBJ than a BBBJ. Just bring your own condom. And put it on.[/QUOTE]Some girls just don't like the taste of rubber / latex. More than one girls have told me that. And they actually enjoyed BBBJ or prefer that over CBJ. To that I just grin.
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[QUOTE=NguyetLang;1725720]Some girls just don't like the taste of rubber / latex. More than one girls have told me that. And they actually enjoyed BBBJ or prefer that over CBJ. To that I just grin.[/QUOTE]Yes, I brought my own condom, and she said to me its either a HJ or BBBJ but no CBJ.
But thanks for replying anyways guys!
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Hidden Gem
There is a little enclave out off the highway in BC. I don't know how I found it, but I have been going there about a year. The whole street has a number of dark coffee shops, hot tics, etc. A lot of ugly women, but some nice older ladies if that's you're thing. I was in a regular coffee shop and the lady serving had a fit body. She was probably mid-40's or early 50's. We talked some and after the other customer left I flirted some. She asked if I wanted to get a hotel, so I met her down the street. I guess she didn't want to be seen since she owned a coffee shop in the neighborhood. We went to a small but nice enough hotel. My tongue was immediately in her mouth and hands on her ass. I got her clothes off and sure enough, nice body. She sucked my cock standing up and then I pushed her on the bed and fucked her doggy style till I pulled off the cap and came all over her back. I have gone back to see her with the same results. 300 k.
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Bc
What does BC mean?
[QUOTE=Onuevos;1742046]There is a little enclave out off the highway in BC. I don't know how I found it, but I have been going there about a year. The whole street has a number of dark coffee shops, hot tics, etc. A lot of ugly women, but some nice older ladies if that's you're thing. I was in a regular coffee shop and the lady serving had a fit body. She was probably mid-40's or early 50's. We talked some and after the other customer left I flirted some. She asked if I wanted to get a hotel, so I met her down the street. I guess she didn't want to be seen since she owned a coffee shop in the neighborhood. We went to a small but nice enough hotel. My tongue was immediately in her mouth and hands on her ass. I got her clothes off and sure enough, nice body. She sucked my cock standing up and then I pushed her on the bed and fucked her doggy style till I pulled off the cap and came all over her back. I have gone back to see her with the same results. 300 k.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Pnhsgn;1742699]What does BC mean?[/QUOTE]Binh Chanh.
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[QUOTE=MutantChicken;1690171]There are a few areas which have streets filled with cafe m where you can enter have a drink and a BBBJ from a pretty syt for 120-150 k one such area I frequent has two street with 10-15 shops. Is now currently closed due to police operations. So whilst girls are indeed back from tet there are other factors limiting cheong activities. Luckily I know another street with 6-7 hottoc where for 200 k you can find 18 yr old 8/10 give you a BBBJ.[/QUOTE]Hi,
Your PM is full so cannot PM you, thanks.
Also anyone have a hot TOC map? Will be over on this Thursday at very sort notice and little time to research.
Thanks in advance.
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NPK Hot Toc
I visited the last one on the left a few weeks ago. Walked in, only one girl but not bad looking. She was a bit miserable. Paid up 200 k vnd and went upstairs. Place is semi private with 'beds' din cubicles. The girl did a good job, tipped her 200 k and left.
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Monger need guidance
Just landed here in Saigon been off the mongering scene for some time. Any advice or info a good massage / hot tocs around District 1. PM me glad to get directions.
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Bia Om
Hi Senior bros,
Am planning a trip to HCMC, staying in Quan 1.
Hope that I can have some information on the local Bia Om (Location Cost etc.).
Or anyone have a regular driver for day rates?
Sincerely,
Viet Love.
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Any details on how to get there or address please.
[QUOTE=Onuevos;1743159]Binh Chanh.[/QUOTE]
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Closest action to Hampton Hotel?
I booked myself into the Hampton Hotel for four nights at the end of July, as it's girl friendly and seems convenient enough to where I wanted to be. I'm saving the vast majority of the LT offerings for Phils, but I was hoping there was a place I could grab a quick BJ or bang that was a short walk from my hotel--if it helps any, it's near the Sheraton Saigon. Also down to grab some beers or shoot the shit over some quality local cuisine if anyone's in the area, so PM me if you're around.
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[QUOTE=Pnhsgn;1748638]Any details on how to get there or address please.[/QUOTE]Take NVL towards Mekong, go under the bridge and out on the interstate, turn right on a Quoc Lo 1. Follow straight turn right at the end, turn left at the market, then over the small bridge. Take your pick after that. Cafe om and hot tocs everywhere. Mostly 40 plus women. I had the best blow jobs out there and fucked some hot 45-55 year old pussy.
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[QUOTE=Pnhsgn;1748638]Any details on how to get there or address please.[/QUOTE]Do you have a bike, there aren't any regular bus or taxi hanging around to get to these places so unless you have access to a bike, having a address is useless. And if you do have a bike, then get on it and ride around. When you find some good ones get back to me and we will swap.
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[QUOTE=Advantageous;1749023]I booked myself into the Hampton Hotel for four nights at the end of July, as it's girl friendly and seems convenient enough to where I wanted to be. I'm saving the vast majority of the LT offerings for Phils, but I was hoping there was a place I could grab a quick BJ or bang that was a short walk from my hotel--if it helps any, it's near the Sheraton Saigon. Also down to grab some beers or shoot the shit over some quality local cuisine if anyone's in the area, so PM me if you're around.[/QUOTE]Good luck, you will need it, I'll let others clarify my statement for you. BTW if you read the post history you prob can guess the reasons for yourself.
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[QUOTE=Onuevos;1749455]Take NVL towards Mekong, go under the bridge and out on the interstate, turn right on a Quoc Lo 1. Follow straight turn right at the end, turn left at the market, then over the small bridge. Take your pick after that. Cafe om and hot tocs everywhere. Mostly 40 plus women. I had the best blow jobs out there and fucked some hot 45-55 year old pussy.[/QUOTE]I think most guys wouldn't be that keen on that demographic of women, and as someone who has personally been in that particular part of BC, I can say that for me, hot wouldn't be a very accurate adjective, in fact in VN hot and 40 yr old women are mutually exclusive as women here age quite badly, its very rare I find a women over 30 attractive. But whatever floats your boat. I thought I better make a balancing comment as its quite far to go for your average guy. Only to find "hot" has a different meaning for them.
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Yet Another NPK report
I had the time and opportunity to slip out to NPK today afternoon. Having sampled 2 of the HTs there (first one (90 or 92): nice, 2nd one (111 B): not so nice), I decided to try a third one (84 - intersection of NKP with LVP). As soon as I entered, a cute little thing took my hand and led me upstairs (better done up than the other 2 places). A quick semi-verbal discussion followed:
NI (verbal): no massage.
Nya (non-verbal): Touches you know what and smiles.
She got the toiletries and then, you know you're getting an awesome BJ when a girl clips up her hair. What followed was exactly that, as described in another post about the exact place by Advantageous (can't better his description,so might as well use it):
[QUOTE=Advantageous;1754568] Almost abruptly, up comes bottom of her dress, down comes the front, and here comes one of the most spectacular BBBJ with CIM I've ever had period. Light nuzzles and licks of my cock and balls, slow, loving, "My boyfriend bought me the shoes I wanted and the dress I wanted, so I need to step my game up" head. No mention of a clock, or coming soon, or "you finish baby" or anything. I alternated between fondling her firm ass and perky tits, eventually deciding on a finger in her snatch, occasionally sucking her tits when they came down low enough for me to reach. After 20 minutes or so of this, I blew a heavy load and she devotedly bobbed her way through my cumshot until I was done, popping off my dick with a sucking motion. She disappeared to the back for a few minutes to gargle and rinse, coming back after to wash off the hand that was between her legs and give me another 10-15 minutes massage.[/QUOTE]Same investment as him too, now that I had the pleasure of re-reading his post (400 K + 100 K).
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Do you have an address or specific location for this gem?
[QUOTE=Onuevos;1742046]There is a little enclave out off the highway in BC. I don't know how I found it, but I have been going there about a year. The whole street has a number of dark coffee shops, hot tics, etc. A lot of ugly women, but some nice older ladies if that's you're thing. I was in a regular coffee shop and the lady serving had a fit body. She was probably mid-40's or early 50's. We talked some and after the other customer left I flirted some. She asked if I wanted to get a hotel, so I met her down the street. I guess she didn't want to be seen since she owned a coffee shop in the neighborhood. We went to a small but nice enough hotel. My tongue was immediately in her mouth and hands on her ass. I got her clothes off and sure enough, nice body. She sucked my cock standing up and then I pushed her on the bed and fucked her doggy style till I pulled off the cap and came all over her back. I have gone back to see her with the same results. 300 k.[/QUOTE]I share your taste for the 40-50's demographic and would love to partake in their services.
Thanks.
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[QUOTE=DocBird;1765463]I share your taste for the 40-50's demographic and would love to partake in their services.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]I think BC stands for BinhChanh, and the highway is probably the one that becomes Nguyen Van Linh street, which runs through District 7.
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BC directions
[QUOTE=Wendella;1765981]I think BC stands for BinhChanh, and the highway is probably the one that becomes Nguyen Van Linh street, which runs through District 7.[/QUOTE]I'm wondering if anyone can tighten up these directions a bit?
I recently took a spin out there to see if I could find the area. One problem is the area itself is a mixed zone, sort of a highway area with neighborhoods that are not visible from the highway without a lot of difficult crossing back over.
Things get a little murky for me when you turn right off of Van Linh.
I realize there's a certain amount of discretion involved yet.
I'd also be interested in any other good cafes like this in Ho Chi Minh. The middle aged women demographic doesn't bother me.
For those new to the area, the run up Van Linh is not a 10 minute ride. Probably 40 minutes or so +/.
Also something of a cop zone for pulling in lots of motorbikes.
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Bennys
So after reading a lot on this forum, I wanted to give Bennys a shot!
Terrible!
As earlier post stated I just walked in, 200+200 up front, I tried first too pay 200 after but they did not agree.
Girl maybe 19. 7 in looks led me to the booth.
Washing, fumbling, giving long HJ. I tried to lead her head to BJ but she tried to kinda fake blow with wet tissue in her hand. I tried to play with booth pussy & ass but very very hard difficult.
Back HJ I said told her to go down. Finally I got my BJ.
I've had a lot better in HCMC!
TO bad, wish there were more girls but all were busy.
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[QUOTE=ILoveChicas;1776352]I'm wondering if anyone can tighten up these directions a bit?
I recently took a spin out there to see if I could find the area. One problem is the area itself is a mixed zone, sort of a highway area with neighborhoods that are not visible from the highway without a lot of difficult crossing back over.
Things get a little murky for me when you turn right off of Van Linh.
I realize there's a certain amount of discretion involved yet.
I'd also be interested in any other good cafes like this in Ho Chi Minh. The middle aged women demographic doesn't bother me.
For those new to the area, the run up Van Linh is not a 10 minute ride. Probably 40 minutes or so +/.
Also something of a cop zone for pulling in lots of motorbikes.[/QUOTE]Discretion has nothing to do with it for me at least. I just know as much as you do, but a bit more. I'm pretty sure he means Nguyen Van Linh as it becomes the highway as you head west out of District 7 (over the orange bridge, over another gray bridge). But that segment of the market is not something I'd go seek out so that's as far as I can describe.
Yeah I don't know why but people are pretty lousy with directions in the Vietnam section. Some try to do that, there's one here who deliberately does it so you PM him and then he'll offer to take you there for $50 or something. If I knew, I'd just tell you.
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[QUOTE=Wendella;1776635]Discretion has nothing to do with it for me at least. I just know as much as you do, but a bit more. I'm pretty sure he means Nguyen Van Linh as it becomes the highway as you head west out of District 7 (over the orange bridge, over another gray bridge). But that segment of the market is not something I'd go seek out so that's as far as I can describe.
Yeah I don't know why but people are pretty lousy with directions in the Vietnam section. Some try to do that, there's one here who deliberately does it so you PM him and then he'll offer to take you there for $50 or something. If I knew, I'd just tell you.[/QUOTE]Gotcha and thanks for the follow up in general.
Your story on getting hit up for money for having someone bring you places was worth a laugh. Vietnam shakedown online!
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Benny Report (Vietnam)(HCMC)(Saigon)
[QUOTE=Domboras;1776403]So after reading a lot on this forum, I wanted to give Bennys a shot!
Terrible!
As earlier post stated I just walked in, 200+200 up front, I tried first too pay 200 after but they did not agree.
Girl maybe 19. 7 in looks led me to the booth.
Washing, fumbling, giving long HJ. I tried to lead her head to BJ but she tried to kinda fake blow with wet tissue in her hand. I tried to play with booth pussy & ass but very very hard difficult.
Back HJ I said told her to go down. Finally I got my BJ.
I've had a lot better in HCMC!
TO bad, wish there were more girls but all were busy.[/QUOTE]I'm sorry to her you had bad experience at Benny. Personally, I'd never tried Benny until yesterday. I usually go to D10 or NPK for BBBJ Hot Toc. Sadly, Hot Toc that offers good BBBBJ with CIM ending is becoming rarer. Such Hot Toc is like a dinosaur. And I have a feeling that Saigon is at that final stage before the meteor hit the Hot Toc scene and it's gone forever (or retreat to outlier area where only locals can find).
At D10, average look is better but SOP tend to be bad (mostly HJ. Minimal BJ. HJ finish). At NPK, there are 3 houses out of 7 that offer good SOP (BBBJ with CIM finish). Suffice to say, my friends and I repeat with girls that we find acceptable (operating word here is 'acceptable') to the point of being unhealthy (more than 4-5 times with same girl being too much for us). There's a new one opened recently on Vo Thi Sau street but that place only has 1 girls we find acceptable to us.
So it is that we made our way to Benny over the weekend. Looked like they clean up the place quite a bit. It looked less seedy than most place we frequent. From its reputation, Benny offer pretty good SOP for a Hot Toc. Again, I'm sorry to hear of your bad experience. For both my friend and I, we get the kind of SOP we came to expect out of such Hot Toc, mostly BBBJ with CIM finish. The girl I chose looked youngish (she said 21 I thought more like 18). Super tight body. Very nice bubble ass. Again. Super tight body. The type that you can bounce a dime off it. While her BJ skill is average at best, I do like her enthusiasm and even some GFE feeling.
After I came, she even laid next to me with her head on my shoulder for the next 15 minutes making small talk. In all, I'm pretty happy although the amount of girls I find to be my spec is only 2 (from what I'd seen). I don't mind paying upfront 400 k VND total (200 hours + 200 tip). To me, it's better than to negotiate which can be a turn-off. Also fair to the girls because I heard sometime they get customer who just tried to stiff them.
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I was driving on my way somewhere, and I scan around typically to see what babes are visible as I drive by. On this one street I drove down, I saw out the corner of my eye a little cheap food shop selling lunch, and at the counter a cute girl in a short dress that looked a little bit out of place. I circled back to have a better look, and she was young and fairly hot. This is the kind of dress designed to show off her lovely legs. Very pretty face, my guess 18 or 19. I think about what to do and decide I can spare some time right now to see where she goes, perhaps I'll be lucky and she'll work in some venue where I can connect with her. She takes off on her motorbike with her takeaway lunch, and heads up this street in the direction I was going. After a few hundred meters, she signals left and crosses the street to opposite side, which is great because it means she is stopping soon, and I won't need to follow her a long time. Now as she pulls over, I get a surge of excitement. The place she is pulling into is what I believe is a cafe om, one I have never visited before. I drive past and up a way, then pull over to the side to see if she goes in. She goes in but comes straight back out with her food and sits at a table outside to eat now. In my mind, now I know that this is a lovely opportunity, but that I must wait for her to finish the food and time my entry for when she is done or nearly done. It's a sunny day and so this is not very comfortable. After about 10 minutes I decide to just go for it, go sit inside, better to sit and wait there. I drive up and do that. I pass her. Wow, she's really pretty, I notice. I sit inside where I have a good angle to see her at her table. The place is empty except for one other customer. I wait and wait and wait. The girl eats super slowly, and half an hour passes. In the meantime two other guys together have taken another pair of seats a few rows in front of me. Finally she stands up and makes her way inside. SHe walks straight to the very back of the cafe, passing me and not noticing. A couple minutes later she starts walking to the front, again past me. Instincts tell me that if she passes me, she will go to those probalby regular customer and that will be the end of this adventure. So I say something to her in Vietnamese to get her attention. She looks at me, not understanding. Another girls has now stopped next to her and is helping. This girl seems to be deliberately not understanding, and I gesture an invitation for her to sit with me. She doesn't get it, but the other girl (with a little annoyance in her voice) tells her what I mean in Vietnamese, he wants you to sit down, stupid. So she sits down in the chair next to me. Up close she looks quite young and pretty, and wow those legs. I see that she is not very comfortable, probably did not want to sit with me as I'm not Vietnamese. So we go slow. We make small talk chat. WHere do you live, brothers and sisters, etc. Some Google translation. Despite the early awkwardness, it starts going smoothly. I wasted so much time waiting for her to finish her lunch that now my free time is drawing to a close, I have somewhere I need to be in a few minutes. As that deadline approaches, I realize that having this plum in my lap is not going to happen on this visit. But rapport was established, and I get the check and give her a 50 K tip, which she seems quite happy about. I will need to return. I leave, but I'm frustrated that time ran out on me for this one. But wow, some excellent luck, that she turned out to be a cafe om girl.
By the way, this place is a strictly hug place, no BJ.
Also I need to not share the location, for the time being at least. Sorry.
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[QUOTE=LoveTool;1780371]By the way, this place is a strictly hug place, no BJ.
Also I need to not share the location, for the time being at least. Sorry.[/QUOTE]This wouldn't be th bunch of cafe om found on pth right?. FYI these places get rather boring quickly, esp if they the ones on pth as the girls only sit on your lap and you can grop out side their clothes. No breast grabbing inside the bra or feeling their wet pussies AND they will butterfly. And its still going to cost you 100 k incl the drink and tip.
I know a few that has soem decent looking girls not the best ill grant def not as good as the one you described. Bit they will allow all access. Again for 100 k, if you are prepared to drive around, I know of one I just went to this week up towards BD, there is def on on par with what you described 18 yrs old pretty naturally hairless pussy, BJ included with drink 120 k. Nevertheless enjoy your find whilst you are still enjoying the novelty. P.S. If you go around TP there is a street with street girls cost 300 k and they are as you described your girl. Tho the girl service is much to be desired but if I'm going to pay 100 k for a girl to sit on my lap or a similar quality girl that I can fuck for 300 k I know which is my preference.
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[QUOTE=MutantChicken;1780546]This wouldn't be th bunch of cafe om found on pth right?. FYI these places get rather boring quickly, esp if they the ones on pth as the girls only sit on your lap and you can grop out side their clothes. No breast grabbing inside the bra or feeling their wet pussies AND they will butterfly. And its still going to cost you 100 k incl the drink and tip.
I know a few that has soem decent looking girls not the best ill grant def not as good as the one you described. Bit they will allow all access. Again for 100 k, if you are prepared to drive around, I know of one I just went to this week up towards BD, there is def on on par with what you described 18 yrs old pretty naturally hairless pussy, BJ included with drink 120 k. Nevertheless enjoy your find whilst you are still enjoying the novelty. P.S. If you go around TP there is a street with street girls cost 300 k and they are as you described your girl. Tho the girl service is much to be desired but if I'm going to pay 100 k for a girl to sit on my lap or a similar quality girl that I can fuck for 300 k I know which is my preference.[/QUOTE]I'm still in the middle of this situation so if it's ok let me keep the location quiet for now. I had 2 more visits since then, and I was writing about my second visit last night and this forum ate my post. I typed for such a long time that I was logged out, then I used back button to go back to my written post and the page wouldn't load due to weak connection or overload server or some reason. Post gone. Wow you really know your way. In answer to your last idea, I have experienced the fast fuck you mention and also the girl in lap, both a few times, and honestly if there was a way to combine the girl in lap with a fuck then that would be ideal, and I know after I do it, after the 300 deal I feel bad and disappointed, and after the 100 deal I feel good, excited, but also sometimes frustrated. So for me at least it's not a simple choice. Getting that cafe girl to a hotel seems like it would be the ideal solution. Oh, one more thing. In the om places, I sure did experience touching breasts and vaginas, so maybe it depends on the girl you get, her attitude. Not always but on occasion. Butterfy, yes some do that.
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Second post or repost
[QUOTE=LoveTool;1780856]I'm still in the middle of this situation so if it's ok let me keep the location quiet for now. I had 2 more visits since then, and I was writing about my second visit last night and this forum ate my post. I typed for such a long time that I was logged out, then I used back button to go back to my written post and the page wouldn't load due to weak connection or overload server or some reason. Post gone. Wow you really know your way. In answer to your last idea, I have experienced the fast fuck you mention and also the girl in lap, both a few times, and honestly if there was a way to combine the girl in lap with a fuck then that would be ideal, and I know after I do it, after the 300 deal I feel bad and disappointed, and after the 100 deal I feel good, excited, but also sometimes frustrated. So for me at least it's not a simple choice. Getting that cafe girl to a hotel seems like it would be the ideal solution. Oh, one more thing. In the om places, I sure did experience touching breasts and vaginas, so maybe it depends on the girl you get, her attitude. Not always but on occasion. Butterfy, yes some do that.[/QUOTE]As I said I'm pretty familiar with this area and the "scene", the place I think you refer to is a cafe named Cat Bien, its around no500 of that street, there are some sexy looking girls who can be seen sitting and working tehre, the "best" one is one named Suong, she look good from afar, but up close, sure she is slim and slimmer, but her face is much older than her body would indicate, I say late 20's, and her face a bit horse. If this is your find, yeah not my type for a number of reasons.
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[QUOTE=MutantChicken;1780546]Again for 100 k, if you are prepared to drive around, I know of one I just went to this week up towards BD, there is def on on par with what you described 18 yrs old pretty naturally hairless pussy, BJ included with drink 120 k. Nevertheless enjoy your find whilst you are still enjoying the novelty. P.S. If you go around TP there is a street with street girls cost 300 k and they are as you described your girl. Tho the girl service is much to be desired but if I'm going to pay 100 k for a girl to sit on my lap or a similar quality girl that I can fuck for 300 k I know which is my preference.[/QUOTE]BD is Binh Duong? BJ I think I know that one. TP not sure what that is. Tan Phu district?
BTW, what do you think are the chances are that a cafe om girl would be willing to go to a hotel? I expect they would be relatively cheap but I could be wrong.
You meant the cafe oms in D8? Because it was in one of those that there was a girl who wanted my hands on all her parts. She took my hand and put it in her panties right down there, basically demanding I finger her. I had no choice but to do as I was told. That one had a super hot slim body, not as young as this current girl. Bad breath was her drawback. Her attitude was amazing though. Not sure if she still works there as that was nearly a year ago.
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[QUOTE=LoveTool;1781062]BD is Binh Duong? BJ I think I know that one. TP not sure what that is. Tan Phu district?
BTW, what do you think are the chances are that a cafe om girl would be willing to go to a hotel? I expect they would be relatively cheap but I could be wrong.
[/QUOTE]I have been able to do so on several occasions, from both beer-om and cafe-om places. All of them were after I became familiar face (been there several times, don't have to be with the same girl every time, although that will help). Typical price was 300 k-500 k for ST and about 1-2 mil for LT (overnight) depends on the girl. Most will claim that they can only go after closing time (11 pm or later). Also not all girls will do that. Some will not go to hotel for any price, mostly because she fears something (there were stories about WG lured to hotel then got robbed, beaten, raped, and even murdered). Becoming a "known" customer will help your chance.
Go ahead. Just ask, the worst thing is a NO answer!
Good luck!
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Address please
The place I think you refer to is a cafe named Cat Bien, its around no 500 of that street.
Can you give me the street name and district please.
Thanks
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[QUOTE=Nomes2015;1783238]The place I think you refer to is a cafe named Cat Bien, its around no 500 of that street.
Can you give me the street name and district please.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Nomes2015;1783238]The place I think you refer to is a cafe named Cat Bien, its around no 500 of that street.
Can you give me the street name and district please.
Thanks[/QUOTE]The street and district were in a previous post that was being referred back to. I don't know the exact address of the place he was talking about, but earlier in the conversation he said it was on PTH in District 8, and I am pretty sure that means Pham The Hien street. So if you just go drive along that street and keep your eyes open when you are near 500, I think you will find it. And a few more of them, six or so cafe oms there on a short stretch. They are the type where it is hug only, no BJ.
Myself and most others here don't agree that the general attitude here should be to not help with info unless there's 'something in it for me'. In fact it's against the stated philosophy of this forum. Recently a post was deleted by the admin for promoting that exact idea. (written by "Meo Den".
But if you scanned back to previous posts you would have seen he mentioned PTH in D8, and if you looked at a map you would have found that easily.
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Hoang Nhi.
Cat Toc. Goi Dau. Salon.
161 Nguyen Hong Dao P. 14 District Tan Binh (deep in Tan Binh too near An Phu) kind of a shit hole, but if you guys are engineers working out there then maybe ok for you but not a real destination as there were only two girls working.
There are only curtains separating the tables and the fan was blowing so hard the curtains kept moving around. 120 ticket and tip whatever.
A girl I've known for about 4 years was helping out and asked me to come by, so I did. She always gives me good non rushed sloppy and deep service.
She's not there anymore, but hey its an address, and I saw two more Hot Tocs on the next block with lots of girls in the window. Again good if you're in the area, but I wouldn't bother driving all the way out there fighting the traffic on CMT.
No parking either. You have to push your bike up the ramp and into the house, through the front room and into the stairwell, and the same to get back out again. I hate that shit.
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[QUOTE=MutantChicken;1783664]Looking at your post history anyone would see that you would feel the way your feel, in the 10 yrs or so that you have been in VN what real information have you yourself discovered, all you do is parasite off other peoples finds than then at best disseminate that information as your own, with the lack of new information you are now back on a sex forum you once disparaged, hoping to again leech off others.[/QUOTE]You're often going back to this motif of parasites and leeches. I wonder what a psychologist would make of that. Like yourself, I've found out some things from the grapevine, meaning here, and also by checking things out in person. Regulars here know I've contributed plenty more than my share, and regulars know you're one who just won't share any useable details unless you get paid to, one way or another. So you come to this forum not to share info, which is what this is supposed to be all about, but instead looking to lure newbies, get them interested in a general description of a place you won't tell where it is so they PM you asking, and then they find out there's a price. So who's the parasite here then. Ah whatever, I don't think you're a parasite. But I don't like this thing of trying to get newbies to pay you for info. It just doesn't seem cool. Or posting stuff that you won't share any details on.
Another forum I once disparaged? You know I still do. I just did last week, and looks like it was a popular post. Surprising. I expected to get zapped to hell for it and the opposite happened. Over there they all have this unwillingness to just talk about this hobby and share any details. You know you actually used to write good posts until you got infected by that crap selfish miserly attitude over there. Look if everyone came here and did what you want, basically never share any useable info (you get UPSET! If someone shares info here! Dude that's so messed up), then this forum would die. It would be boring as fuck, just like that other one is. Non-stop talk of exchange rates and where to buy such and such a soup, back-patting each other for inside jokes. It's a total crap forum. Oh and. You seem to not be there any more, what's up with that? OK yeah I heard. So now you're lurking there after you got banned? Creating clones? Dude. Take a step back. Whats going on here. Take a break from these forums, go out and enjoy yourself and forget these online turf battles, it's not healthy. Who gives a fuck. It's addicting, I know because I've caught that bug before. Just go cold turkey and get back to real life.
Anyway, I only come on these for one reason: to hear about new places I didn't hear of yet. Simple. If I there's an opportunity to easily help someone out who's asking, yeah whatever, do it. Karma.
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The pimps
I would never trust any low life who try to make money out of prostitutes.
Eventually their greed will take over and they may set their "friends" up for robberies and savage beatings.
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A thought just hit me. This is the thread for finding girls online. Regardless of our different philosophies about sharing, the stuff we are meant to talk about here is already shared online, for example on the various websites like [URL]danchoi.xxx[/URL] and [URL]thiendia.com[/URL] and banhmy. Us and [URL]kynu.net[/URL]. And of course there are more.
Myself, I've mainly checked out danchoi. I have to say that on banhmy there are lots of fake ads recently. For example this one:
[URL]http://banhmy.us/hangho-19972/ngoc-han-ms-189-ngoc-han-gai-goi-quan-10.html[/URL]
The girl looks quite good in picture after picture until you get to the last one and it's like whoa, who's that. That's the girl you get, I believe. The other pictures were all lifted from an ad that ran a few months ago on danchoi, a girl in D8 who charged 1 million 500, and her ad was up for just a week or so and got deleted. (my guess is she got enough replies to achieve her goal and deleted the ad when she had enough).
Banhmy also always has the setup where you have to pay for phone numbers using phone credit. But actually their ads seem to mostly be lifted (and reformatted) from other websites like these. From time to time, phone numbers leak into the ads, the girls (or whoever posts the ads) sneak the number into the ad and it goes up. Usually the site admin catches the numbers and deletes them. I've seen some periods when the phone numbers were getting included on most ads, but then a clampdown after that.
Someone told me there's backlash now against danchoi (among local VNese) due to bait & switch becoming too common, fake ads, etc. I don't know myself. Locals prefer the website thiendia. If I go look at that one, the first thing I notice is that the range goes from 300-600, where danchoi has a few at 300 but many at 400 or 500, and then it goes up higher all the way to 1. 5 million. To me it looks like danchoi still gets the most new ads though.
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[QUOTE=Wendella;1783850]You're often going back to this motif of parasites and leeches. I wonder what a psychologist would make of that. Like yourself, I've found out some things from the grapevine, meaning here, and also by checking things out in person. Regulars here know I've contributed plenty more than my share, and regulars know you're one who just won't share any useable details unless you get paid to, one way or another. So you come to this forum not to share info, which is what this is supposed to be all about, but instead looking to lure newbies, get them interested in a general description of a place you won't tell where it is so they PM you asking, and then they find out there's a price. So who's the parasite here then. Ah whatever, I don't think you're a parasite. But I don't like this thing of trying to get newbies to pay you for info. It just doesn't seem cool. Or posting stuff that you won't share any details on.
Another forum I once disparaged? You know I still do. I just did last week, and looks like it was a popular post. Surprising. I expected to get zapped to hell for it and the opposite happened. Over there they all have this unwillingness to just talk about this hobby and share any details. You know you actually used to write good posts until you got infected by that crap selfish miserly attitude over there. Look if everyone came here and did what you want, basically never share any useable info (you get UPSET! If someone shares info here! Dude that's so messed up), then this forum would die. It would be boring as fuck, just like that other one is. Non-stop talk of exchange rates and where to buy such and such a soup, back-patting each other for inside jokes. It's a total crap forum. Oh and. You seem to not be there any more, what's up with that? OK yeah I heard. So now you're lurking there after you got banned? Creating clones? Dude. Take a step back. Whats going on here. Take a break from these forums, go out and enjoy yourself and forget these online turf battles, it's not healthy. Who gives a fuck. It's addicting, I know because I've caught that bug before. Just go cold turkey and get back to real life.
Anyway, I only come on these for one reason: to hear about new places I didn't hear of yet. Simple. If I there's an opportunity to easily help someone out who's asking, yeah whatever, do it. Karma.[/QUOTE]I wish Jackson would create a like button so I can like this post.
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There's another forum besides these 2? I'm happy to hear about that other one in PM. Maybe it's one I know already or maybe not. I've been pretty dormant on these sites the last couple years.
From one thing he mentioned, it seemed as if Ecchi here had an ISG account a long time ago but let it go. Anyway, that's another way he could have met people from ISG, back when he was using that other account that I presume had PM.
Back to the matter at hand here, has anyone tried the higher end ones on the danchoi websites? I mean the 1 million or 1 point 5 million ones. I wonder what a customer gets for that extra money. Is it looks? Is it performance? Both? Neither?
It's strange how it goes 300,400, 500,600, 700, a very few 800's, but I have NEVER seen a 900, then yes 1 million, but then nothing from 1. 1 to 1. 4 but then yes at 1. 5 million. Myself, I've only gone with 500 and 600 so far. I've been tempted by some at the top prices but never did pull the trigger yet. Seeing a giant flower (or butterfly) over their faces may have had something to do with it.
I'll confess that the one in the pink jeans, I kind of did pull the trigger on that one. I put the number in my phone, but was too busy at work to find time to do it, but still kept checking to see if the ad was up and the number still working. One day the ad was suddenly gone, uh oh, but the number still worked. Just a few more days of work to go and I'd do it, I decided. Then at long last came that day when I was finally free, I set off for D8 and rang the number. Turned off! Ugh. It never did go back on again. I tried many times.
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Benny 110
Just got back from Benny at 110 DBP. About six girls working at 1:30 on a Saturday afternoon, the facilities are clean and kept nice. Price was 400 up front (which I don't mind), and we went straight upstairs. I asked if I could get CBJ, she said no, all the girls only do BBBJ. So I opted for HJ. I laid on the table, she pulled up my shirt and pulled down my pants to my knees, and cleaned me with wipes. Straight away she took her top down, and had a great pair on her. She turned off the light, but as I was the only customer at the time she asked if I wanted it turned back on, to which I said yes. She started kissing / licking and working it, and I reached under her skirt. As soon as she felt my hand on her rear she pulled her panties down to her knees and continued. I was free to explore everywhere, rubbing her clit, and inserting my finger. Now she wasn't the most beautiful girl I've met here (6/10), but her body was great and her technique was superb. She had a very light touch and when I got close the first time she stopped working it and continued with the kissing and the licking for awhile. She did turn out the light when another customer showed up, and as others have mentioned, you're in a single room with curtains and semi-transparent dividers so you can hear and see quite a bit. Again, not a problem for me. After about 10 more minutes I let loose, and she cleaned me up and told me to relax for a little while. Her name was Bich. All in all a great experience.
Compared to MPs here, you don't get a massage first (which is never great anyway), and quite often the girls at the MP don't want to take down their top or their panties. This is much better if you are just looking for a good release and more intimacy / roaming with the hands. I'll definitely be going back.
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[QUOTE=An349;1791133]Just got back from Benny at 110 DBP. [/QUOTE]Excellent report there, thanks. Can I ask, when you say "kissing" is that french kissing or her kissing your thing or her kissing your body or what?
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Re: kissing
[QUOTE=LoveTool;1791572]Excellent report there, thanks. Can I ask, when you say "kissing" is that french kissing or her kissing your thing or her kissing your body or what?[/QUOTE]The kissing / licking was on my nipples, chest, stomach and she also was very enthusiastic about licking my balls. I didn't ask or try to have her french kiss. She obviously would have kissed the heck out of my little man (since this is a BBBJ place) if I had wanted that instead of the HJ.
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Kissing
Great posts on Ben Ny's. I visit HCMC about once a year and always visit BN. There were never surprises. You know what you're getting. There were times when I could not pop (not because of the girl, it's just me) but every time the girl would keep trying. It seems like they felt they were failing in their job if you don't pop. I know you regulars / locals hate this for 'spoiling the market' but I would slip a 100 k in their hand after the deed if they were extra hard working.
Regarding kissing, I really don't fancy kissing these girls (definitely not French kissing) who BBBJCIM 10-20 unwashed cocks everyday. It's just me.
I was in HCMC last February. I am coming back in late November, also going to Hanoi.
[QUOTE=An349;1792975]The kissing / licking was on my nipples, chest, stomach and she also was very enthusiastic about licking my balls. I didn't ask or try to have her french kiss. She obviously would have kissed the heck out of my little man (since this is a BBBJ place) if I had wanted that instead of the HJ.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=AmericanThief;1783773]Hoang Nhi.
Cat Toc. Goi Dau. Salon.
161 Nguyen Hong Dao P. 14 District Tan Binh (deep in Tan Binh too near An Phu) kind of a shit hole, but if you guys are engineers working out there then maybe ok for you but not a real destination as there were only two girls working.
There are only curtains separating the tables and the fan was blowing so hard the curtains kept moving around. 120 ticket and tip whatever.
A girl I've known for about 4 years was helping out and asked me to come by, so I did. She always gives me good non rushed sloppy and deep service.
She's not there anymore, but hey its an address, and I saw two more Hot Tocs on the next block with lots of girls in the window. Again good if you're in the area, but I wouldn't bother driving all the way out there fighting the traffic on CMT.
No parking either. You have to push your bike up the ramp and into the house, through the front room and into the stairwell, and the same to get back out again. I hate that shit.[/QUOTE]It's been a while since the last time I visited one of these places. Can you let me know what a standard tip would be at a place like this?
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[QUOTE=CarlRaze;1795617]It's been a while since the last time I visited one of these places. Can you let me know what a standard tip would be at a place like this?[/QUOTE]As the ticket is 120. Locals would tip 150, max 200 if there was a really pretty girl or there was CIM or the fireand ice treatment. You foreigners prob expected to pay 300 or more but ID just give 200 and walk out don't bother hanging around to see her reaction.
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[QUOTE=MutantChicken;1795641]As the ticket is 120. Locals would tip 150, max 200 if there was a really pretty girl or there was CIM or the fireand ice treatment. You foreigners prob expected to pay 300 or more but ID just give 200 and walk out don't bother hanging around to see her reaction.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the enlightenment! I've got the whole afternoon today to explore and play. I'd bet the reason most foreigners overpay is due to ignorance.
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Where is bennies?
I was in HCM sometime last year, tried Benniees on my first attempt I walked into a house with a disabled child. The second attempt I walked into a building where the front desk was at the far end of the main entrance with stairs nearby. I approached the desk there was a woman behind it and a security guard sitting on the bench in front of it, both just gave me blank stares and neither said a word so I left fearing another mistaken address.
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French kissing
[QUOTE=LoveTool;1791572]Excellent report there, thanks. Can I ask, when you say "kissing" is that french kissing or her kissing your thing or her kissing your body or what?[/QUOTE]To Love Tool.
The only thing I want her to kiss and touch is my Johnny and nothing else, this girl blow and CIM about 10 guys a day why would you want to French kiss any girls at ben ny.
Fast eddie 48.
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[QUOTE=FastEddie48;1802006]To Love Tool.
The only thing I want her to kiss and touch is my Johnny and nothing else, this girl blow and CIM about 10 guys a day why would you want to French kiss any girls at ben ny.
Fast eddie 48.[/QUOTE]What's more, I've heard recently that girls there like ice cream. So unless that's also your favorite, might want to hold off on the kissing there.
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D2 Hot Tocs
Tran Nao has at least two hot tocs that I have used in the past. There was a third one which was the best but that has gone unfortunately. If you look for any hot toc on the street that has the words Goi Dau on the sign you should be good to go. None of them have cost me more than 200 k and one place I had two girls suck my dick at the same time. Awesome.
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[QUOTE=SgnShgr;1802288]Tran Nao has at least two hot tocs that I have used in the past. There was a third one which was the best but that has gone unfortunately. If you look for any hot toc on the street that has the words Goi Dau on the sign you should be good to go. None of them have cost me more than 200 k and one place I had two girls suck my dick at the same time. Awesome.[/QUOTE]New info for me. Thanks. Will try to look for this.
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[QUOTE=Goons;1800538]I was in HCM sometime last year, tried Benniees on my first attempt I walked into a house with a disabled child. The second attempt I walked into a building where the front desk was at the far end of the main entrance with stairs nearby. I approached the desk there was a woman behind it and a security guard sitting on the bench in front of it, both just gave me blank stares and neither said a word so I left fearing another mistaken address.[/QUOTE]Try looking it up on Google. They have a map as to where it is.
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[QUOTE=Ecchi;1802333]New info for me. Thanks. Will try to look for this.[/QUOTE]I'll drive past them tonight and try and take some pics. Send me a PM and I'll send them on to you. There is also a few rub and tugs near the round about. They will try and ask for 500 k for a HJ but I have been able to barter them down to 300 k which I still think is a bit over the odds.
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[QUOTE=SgnShgr;1802288]Tran Nao has at least two hot tocs that I have used in the past. There was a third one which was the best but that has gone unfortunately. If you look for any hot toc on the street that has the words Goi Dau on the sign you should be good to go. None of them have cost me more than 200 k and one place I had two girls suck my dick at the same time. Awesome.[/QUOTE]It helps if you give the exact location and name SgnShgr.
One of the shops is called Vinh Tu, from memory it is around 39 or 37 Tran Nao. 350 k in total (ticket and tip) should do the trick. I have had some good CIM action there, but also some cum in a tissue type experiences. If you find a girl that is good in this place, stick with her as the service levels fluctuate a lot in this shop. The one that closed down a few months ago was near the big petrol station. I am not aware of a 3rd one, but will have a closer look in the next few weeks and provide the exact details.
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[QUOTE=JD468;1802525]It helps if you give the exact location and name SgnShgr.
One of the shops is called Vinh Tu, from memory it is around 39 or 37 Tran Nao. 350 k in total (ticket and tip) should do the trick. I have had some good CIM action there, but also some cum in a tissue type experiences. If you find a girl that is good in this place, stick with her as the service levels fluctuate a lot in this shop. The one that closed down a few months ago was near the big petrol station. I am not aware of a 3rd one, but will have a closer look in the next few weeks and provide the exact details.[/QUOTE]The HT's are Thien Phuc at 86 Tran Nao and Vihn Thu at 35 b Tran Nao.
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I am currently in HCM
I am a Vietnamese American. I do not have a lot of money, so can not go to HCM very often. The last time was three years ago. My favorite area was Giai Phong St. I remember there was three sex shop on that one road. Just go in and pick a girl, go upstairs, have sex and pay 500 k downstair. It was easy, nice clean room and good price. I have read that the prices have been going up since the last time I was there. I read it jumped to 600 k then maybe 800 k. So, when I went there I was expecting it would be 600 k or 800 k.
It was worst, they were all gone. Could not find them anymore. So, I was walked around all the streets in that area, Giai Phong St, Ba Vi St then Thang Long St, for an hour to see if they moved or if new sex shop opened up in that area. The one shop that looked like a sex shop was near the top end of Thang Long St. The shop had no signs, there was many pretty girls in red uniforms. I went in and they told me to sit down and started to give me a shave. After the shave I ask for a massage or to go to the back room. They said they do not have one. I got a bill for 150 k for the shave.
I then walked to the Hau Giang Phuong St. I found two Hot Toc across from each other. Both had many girls in pretty uniforms. So, I when to the top one because I saw a girl was pretty. I asked them what was there rate there. They say they only do cut hair and shave, nothing else. So, I called the night a loss and will try again the next day, taxi and shave 350 k loss.
The next night, at 6 pm, I got a mototaxi to take me to Lotte Mart at quan 7. After getting something to eat there, I start walking north behind Lotte Mart on LE Van Luong St. I remember there were 200 k BJ Hot Toc on that road a few years ago. I went at night because I was hoping to see the BJ Hot Toc shops easy because they would be only shops still open that late, 7 pm. I walk up that road for 30 minutes and back down to double check, nothing. Then 30 min on Nguyen Thi Thap and back, also nothing.
I do not know if it is me but I think both areas are dead I got a mototaxi to take me baor am I just blind?
I got a mototaxi take me back to my hotel, but before I left. I ask the moto did he know any girls. He said sure. He will make a few calls. I told him I was looking to spent around 700 k. After waiting almost an hour he took me to an hourly hotel. He told me to get a room and wait for the girl. After, getting a room a girl knock on my door. She wanted 800 k I talk her down to 700 k. Pretty face, be cup, between normal and slim body, I think she was around 23 yrs old.
When we had sex, she was not very active and very quite. I want a BJ first. She only did it for 5 minutes, mostly hand and little mouth. I want her on top of me first. She said no and want me to do all the work. I get her to get on top later but for less then 5 minutes.
She was not good, OK at best. I would give both looks and service a 7. So the damage for the night was 80 k both way Lotte Mart, 100 k for ride both ways to hotel, hourly hotel was 60 k, girl was 700 k, and 100 k tip the moto driver for help getting the girl. Total = 1,040,000 dong.
Is this the current HCM? No more easy sex shop? Is my best and cheapest options now go to Benny for 400 k or Tran Nao Rd for 350 k, never been to them? Would it be better and Cheaper to hire a sex guide? If yes, any recommendation or tips would help?
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[QUOTE=XSilverTigerX;1805369]I am a Vietnamese American. I do not have a lot of money, so can not go to HCM very often. The last time was three years ago. My favorite area was Giai Phong St. I remember there was three sex shop on that one road. Just go in and pick a girl, go upstairs, have sex and pay 500 k downstair. It was easy, nice clean room and good price. I have read that the prices have been going up since the last time I was there. I read it jumped to 600 k then maybe 800 k. So, when I went there I was expecting it would be 600 k or 800 k.
It was worst, they were all gone. Could not find them anymore. So, I was walked around all the streets in that area, Giai Phong St, Ba Vi St then Thang Long St, for an hour to see if they moved or if new sex shop opened up in that area. The one shop that looked like a sex shop was near the top end of Thang Long St. The shop had no signs, there was many pretty girls in red uniforms. I went in and they told me to sit down and started to give me a shave. After the shave I ask for a massage or to go to the back room. They said they do not have one. I got a bill for 150 k for the shave.
I then walked to the Hau Giang Phuong St. I found two Hot Toc across from each other. Both had many girls in pretty uniforms. So, I when to the top one because I saw a girl was pretty. I asked them what was there rate there. They say they only do cut hair and shave, nothing else. So, I called the night a loss and will try again the next day, taxi and shave 350 k loss.
The next night, at 6 pm, I got a mototaxi to take me to Lotte Mart at quan 7. After getting something to eat there, I start walking north behind Lotte Mart on LE Van Luong St. I remember there were 200 k BJ Hot Toc on that road a few years ago. I went at night because I was hoping to see the BJ Hot Toc shops easy because they would be only shops still open that late, 7 pm. I walk up that road for 30 minutes and back down to double check, nothing. Then 30 min on Nguyen Thi Thap and back, also nothing.[/QUOTE]How about giving 84 NPK a try? From what I've read on this forum, there have been some rave reviews. Let us know how that goes.
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[QUOTE=XSilverTigerX;1805369]I am a Vietnamese American. I do not have a lot of money, so can not go to HCM very often. The last time was three years ago. My favorite area was Giai Phong St. I remember there was three sex shop on that one road. Just go in and pick a girl, go upstairs, have sex and pay 500 k downstair. It was easy, nice clean room and good price. I have read that the prices have been going up since the last time I was there. I read it jumped to 600 k then maybe 800 k. So, when I went there I was expecting it would be 600 k or 800 k.
It was worst, they were all gone. Could not find them anymore. So, I was walked around all the streets in that area, Giai Phong St, Ba Vi St then Thang Long St, for an hour to see if they moved or if new sex shop opened up in that area. The one shop that looked like a sex shop was near the top end of Thang Long St. The shop had no signs, there was many pretty girls in red uniforms. I went in and they told me to sit down and started to give me a shave. After the shave I ask for a massage or to go to the back room. They said they do not have one. I got a bill for 150 k for the shave.
I then walked to the Hau Giang Phuong St. I found two Hot Toc across from each other. Both had many girls in pretty uniforms. So, I when to the top one because I saw a girl was pretty. I asked them what was there rate there. They say they only do cut hair and shave, nothing else. So, I called the night a loss and will try again the next day, taxi and shave 350 k loss.
The next night, at 6 pm, I got a mototaxi to take me to Lotte Mart at quan 7. After getting something to eat there, I start walking north behind Lotte Mart on LE Van Luong St. I remember there were 200 k BJ Hot Toc on that road a few years ago. I went at night because I was hoping to see the BJ Hot Toc shops easy because they would be only shops still open that late, 7 pm. I walk up that road for 30 minutes and back down to double check, nothing. Then 30 min on Nguyen Thi Thap and back, also nothing.
I do not know if it is me but I think both areas are dead I got a mototaxi to take me baor am I just blind?
I got a mototaxi take me back to my hotel, but before I left. I ask the moto did he know any girls. He said sure. He will make a few calls. I told him I was looking to spent around 700 k. After waiting almost an hour he took me to an hourly hotel. He told me to get a room and wait for the girl. After, getting a room a girl knock on my door. She wanted 800 k I talk her down to 700 k. Pretty face, be cup, between normal and slim body, I think she was around 23 yrs old.
When we had sex, she was not very active and very quite. I want a BJ first. She only did it for 5 minutes, mostly hand and little mouth. I want her on top of me first. She said no and want me to do all the work. I get her to get on top later but for less then 5 minutes.
She was not good, OK at best. I would give both looks and service a 7. So the damage for the night was 80 k both way Lotte Mart, 100 k for ride both ways to hotel, hourly hotel was 60 k, girl was 700 k, and 100 k tip the moto driver for help getting the girl. Total = 1,040,000 dong.
Is this the current HCM? No more easy sex shop? Is my best and cheapest options now go to Benny for 400 k or Tran Nao Rd for 350 k, never been to them? Would it be better and Cheaper to hire a sex guide? If yes, any recommendation or tips would help?[/QUOTE]After several rounds of cleanup, the industry, at least for local VNse speaking customers, have gone online, and they are thriving like you wouldn't believe.
If you speak / read Vietnamese, even just barely, I recommend the following websites, they come with pic, feedback, review, many details on each girl, the only draw back is that they are in Vietnamese. Most of the girls are also no-English.
[URL]http://thiendia.com/diendan/forumdisplay.php?f=198[/URL]
[URL]http://kynu.net/gai-goi/[/URL]
[URL]http://danchoi.xxx********18-Trung-Tam-Giai-Tri-Mien-Nam-Mien-Dong-Tay.html[/URL]
Good luck and happy hunting.
Peter.
P.S. Also the sex shops have gone to Quan 10 and you will find them on either LE Hong Phong or Su Van Hanh as HTGD (barber shops), their price have gone up to 1 mil, give or take.
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[QUOTE=Tmackly;1805448]How about giving 84 NPK a try? From what I've read on this forum, there have been some rave reviews. Let us know how that goes.
T[/QUOTE]NPK is alive and well. Was there a few weeks ago, half way down the street, with the opaque doors. Massage, she wore a short yellow skirt, made sure I knew she had no panties on, then I licked her out until she clenched her thighs around me, blowjob, pulled back and all over her face. Shrieks of joy from another cubicle, think sex is probably available here. The usual 400 all up.
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[QUOTE=Peter1066;1806343]NPK is alive and well. ...[/QUOTE]An understatement if I ever saw one. Thursday, I know of 6 expats were there (me included).
The gentleman in the cabin next to mine was getting the girl to slow down her awesomeness to make the best of his time (he was finishing just as I was starting).
There was obviously me.
Then there was the group of 4 gentleman (US / Canadian / Australian? ), 3 of whom were guzzling beer downstairs while the last was getting guzzled upstairs.
Then there were the locals (one who walked out as I walked in, and another who followed a quick release cycle).
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[QUOTE=Tmackly;1805448]How about giving 84 NPK a try? From what I've read on this forum, there have been some rave reviews. Let us know how that goes.
T[/QUOTE]Excuse my ignorance, but what is 84 NPK?
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[QUOTE=Peter1066;1806343]NPK is alive and well. Was there a few weeks ago, half way down the street, with the opaque doors. Massage, she wore a short yellow skirt, made sure I knew she had no panties on, then I licked her out until she clenched her thighs around me, blowjob, pulled back and all over her face. Shrieks of joy from another cubicle, think sex is probably available here. The usual 400 all up.[/QUOTE]Excuse my ignorance but what is NPK?
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Thanks for the help Tmackly, NguyetLang and Peter1022
NguyetLang,
I tried your websites. I look for a girl in my price range, 600 k. I called a girl up. In Vietnamese, ask if she had time for me tonight. She said yes. I ask what hotel I could meet her at. She ask me for the password. I told her it but she said it was wrong or I was saying it wrong. So, she would not meet me.
[URL]http://kynu.net/gai-goi/chi-tiet/1127/song-nhi-e-xinh-va-de-thuong[/URL]
I tried again, I called Song Nhi. Her prices was also 600 k. She told me to get a room at Honey House hotel at 811 Lê Hồng Phong, Phư7901;ng 12, Hồ Chí Minh. So, I got a room there and the girl that came was nothing like the picture. The girl in the picture was skinny, long straight hair and cute breast. The girl that came to my room was short, average body, curly hair and bigger pointer breast. It was a total different girl. She was not pretty but not ugly, average a 6 maybe 7. Her BJ was good an 8. I bang her for 20 minutes. Paid her the 600 k and the hotel 80 k.
Was not the girl in the picture but only 680 k plus taxi.
Thanks again guys.
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[QUOTE=Amanintassie;1807267]Excuse my ignorance but what is NPK?[/QUOTE]Nguyen PhI Kanh. It's a street.
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[QUOTE=XSilverTigerX;1807458]NguyetLang,
I tried your websites. I look for a girl in my price range, 600 k. I called a girl up. In Vietnamese, ask if she had time for me tonight. She said yes. I ask what hotel I could meet her at. She ask me for the password. I told her it but she said it was wrong or I was saying it wrong. So, she would not meet me.
[URL]http://kynu.net/gai-goi/chi-tiet/1127/song-nhi-e-xinh-va-de-thuong[/URL]
I tried again, I called Song Nhi. Her prices was also 600 k. She told me to get a room at Honey House hotel at 811 L Hồng Phong, Phư7901;ng 12, Hồ Ch Minh. So, I got a room there and the girl that came was nothing like the picture. The girl in the picture was skinny, long straight hair and cute breast. The girl that came to my room was short, average body, curly hair and bigger pointer breast. It was a total different girl. She was not pretty but not ugly, average a 6 maybe 7. Her BJ was good an 8. I bang her for 20 minutes. Paid her the 600 k and the hotel 80 k.
Was not the girl in the picture but only 680 k plus taxi.
Thanks again guys.[/QUOTE]This actually sounds like a couple of bad experiences. I've never heard of a girl insisting on the password, or even asking for it at all. That's strange. Maybe she just wasn't keen on going with a foreigner. Just a guess. I always conduct all communication via SMS (smartphone, with Google Translate ready to go for all my translations). That might have prevented the girl from knowing you were a foreigner. And in the 2nd case, if the wrong girl showed up, I would have immediately sent an SMS to the same phone number saying that you want to meet the same girl as in the photo in the ad. For one, you will see if the girl in your room receives that SMS message -- if she does you can guess it was a fake ad -- if she doesn't, it means someone else has that phone number, so maybe original girl is off busy elsewhere. That happens, sometimes they will send a different girl if the original girl is busy. If you stand your ground, sometimes you can get to meet the correct girl if you are willing to wait. I had that happen to me 2 times, tho I didn't bother messaging to get the original girl. I just said sorry, you aren't the girl in the photo, and left. (once I gave the girl a small tip, which someone here pointed out was a mistake, so I wouldn't do that next time -0- the other time the girl who showed up was not attractive in any way, was just in the wrong line of work altogether, had no business working as a call girl, and was SO different than the girl in the picture it was insulting, so she got nothing.).
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Cat Tuong visit
Well this isn't much of a report but it may start a useful discussion?
I'd seen a small and somewhat dimly lit bar named Cat Tuong. The place had a fairly open feel to it and tonight it was slow so I figured I wasn't f'ing up anyone's night by not knowing the situation.
I went in and say down and a women in her late 20's with a rocking body sit down and over the next 20 minutes or so kind of draped herself on me. I got some nice feels in and it was pretty relaxed.
Unfortunately, it became apparent, that was the entire program. Something to drink and some hang out time with this woman. I made any number of gestures and two guys who'd come in before me left but obviously nobody's getting anything there really.
I'm curious if anyone knows if there's a wide variety of Cat Tuongs? Is that just the nature of the dimly lit cafe / bar thing?
Any other experiences or clues on what to look for would be appreciated by me and possibly others.
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[QUOTE=ILoveChicas;1808425]
I'd seen a small and somewhat dimly lit bar named Cat Tuong. [/QUOTE]Discussion will be more useful if we can start to narrow down its location. It's in Vietnam? Any particular city? Was it on a street that had a name? If in Saigon, which district?
All we have so far is "Cat Tuong" and it was a bar, or at least you think so, it was a slow night and you got served by a relatively older girl who draped herself over you. Actually that makes it sound more like it's a cafe om, not a bar. What kind of seating in this place? Was it bar stools or a kind of lawn chairs?
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[QUOTE=Wendella;1808718]Discussion will be more useful if we can start to narrow down its location. It's in Vietnam? Any particular city? Was it on a street that had a name? If in Saigon, which district?
All we have so far is "Cat Tuong" and it was a bar, or at least you think so, it was a slow night and you got served by a relatively older girl who draped herself over you. Actually that makes it sound more like it's a cafe om, not a bar. What kind of seating in this place? Was it bar stools or a kind of lawn chairs?[/QUOTE]It doesn't read like a cafe om to me, there are so many things that dispell that idea. To me its more like the new breed of bars that took over from bin bin, etc where the girls are there for company, for lady drinks and to help you buy more drinks. Cafe om are not something you kinda stumble into and there is no bar as no alcohol is served. And these places are found only in the outskirts of HCMC and given the posted previous problems tracking down some BBBJ places ID doubt he is now exploring.
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[QUOTE=MutantChicken;1808767]It doesn't read like a cafe om to me, there are so many things that dispell that idea. To me its more like the new breed of bars that took over from bin bin, etc where the girls are there for company, for lady drinks and to help you buy more drinks. Cafe om are not something you kinda stumble into and there is no bar as no alcohol is served. And these places are found only in the outskirts of HCMC and given the posted previous problems tracking down some BBBJ places ID doubt he is now exploring.[/QUOTE]Yeah ok but sprawling over the guy, that's typical cafe om thing. D1 bars like 29 maybe. Others not so much. Cat Tuong? Don't know one by that name. Maybe the guy will clarify.
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[QUOTE=Wendella;1808778]Yeah ok but sprawling over the guy, that's typical cafe om thing. D1 bars like 29 maybe. Others not so much. Cat Tuong? Don't know one by that name. Maybe the guy will clarify.[/QUOTE]Thanks for responding. BTW I'm not being intentionally vague I just took a chance on a place that looked interesting. There may not have been any alcohol at all on premises now that you mention it. I was offered a coffee energy drink type thing and decided that's what I wanted rather than complicate things at the outset.
The interior layout consisted of about 8 sets of a small table and two folding chairs together facing the street (no bar stools). Everybody faced the front opening of the place and more or less watched a TV that hung above the entryway.
I thought "cat toung" indicated it was a particular kind of bar not a name like Jimmy's Bar. Again, it's hard to know less than me in Vietnam.
On the face of it, it sounds like a new type of bar heh? I really don't think anything more is offered. Feel up an attractive woman for 30 minutes and head home. No heavy pressure to buy another drink from what I could tell. Out on Hong Bang, maybe as far as district 12?
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[QUOTE=MutantChicken;1808767]It doesn't read like a cafe om to me, there are so many things that dispell that idea. To me its more like the new breed of bars that took over from bin bin, etc where the girls are there for company, for lady drinks and to help you buy more drinks. Cafe om are not something you kinda stumble into and there is no bar as no alcohol is served. And these places are found only in the outskirts of HCMC and given the posted previous problems tracking down some BBBJ places ID doubt he is now exploring.[/QUOTE]I woulda edited my post but I can't, ISG blocks me doing that. He didn't actually mention that there was an actual bar in the place, he called the place a bar and then a bar / cafe, or that anyone had alcohol. District 8 cafe oms are fairly central, tho yeah a weird place for a newbie to show up. The "new breed" of bars, you mean the ones like Voodoo or the cruddy ghosts of the HBT bars. THOSE (HBT) sure do have old girls in them, so that's possible. Man I wouldn't want one of those draped over me. No sir. No thank you.
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Hot Toc. Tan Binh District
Went in and asked for a "goi dau". Two girls present, each about a 7 on a good day. Was pointed upstairs. Got an unremarkable shampoo. The girl was friendly and made chit chat in Vietnamese. After that, she asked if I wanted a massage. I agreed and she gave a decent massage. After that she asked if I wanted a tug. I said sure. She said that this was between me and her and don't mention it downstairs. I agreed. She allowed fingering. Tug was good but a little rushed as she seemed nervous about someone coming up. After, she mentioned that we could meet at a hotel sometime and we exchanged numbers. Went downstairs and saw that they had real haircut customers. The shampoo was 50,000, massage 100,000, tip 100,000. Total 250,000.
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[QUOTE=ILoveChicas;1808795]
On the face of it, it sounds like a new type of bar heh? I really don't think anything more is offered. Feel up an attractive woman for 30 minutes and head home. No heavy pressure to buy another drink from what I could tell. Out on Hong Bang, maybe as far as district 12?[/QUOTE]This really sounds like it's a cafe om of the hug-only type. (not the BJ type). It's not a bar. There's probably no alcohol there. I can see where you could think it was a bar going there for the first time, because they're dark.
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A street full of Hot Toc's
Will be posting a few reviews of my recent Saigon experiences.
First review is of Nguyen Phi Khan Street. There are at least 10-15 Hot Toc places all along this street. That seem to start opening around 11 am, but you will get more options as the afternoon progresses.
Originally taken there at night by my Viet guide, but went back a couple of times. The pimps out the front will welcome you in and if you act ignorant like me, just go in and have a look. If you don't like the goods, just smile say thanks and walk out. Not speaking Viet is actually a plus in this case, as you won't understand when they curse at you for not staying.
In the end I only participated with shop #84. It's a standard price 400 K for BBBJ (and CIM in my case). Tried twice, both experiences were great. Friendly girls, friendly mama, nice big room and great service. The 2nd time I went there I took 2 girls up for a double BBBJ / CIM fantasy session. 800 K bargain (compared to what I paid in little Tokyo on another day).
Other shops along the street had some cuties too, but I can't recharge fast enough to try out so many shops.
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Npk
Do you remember their names? I've been to a handful of other places on NPK and 84 is the best overall.
A few weeks ago there were more than a six girls in the early eve and three of them were 8's or 9's and I'm somewhat picky too.
[QUOTE=AsianLoverOz;1815836]Will be posting a few reviews of my recent Saigon experiences.
First review is of Nguyen Phi Khan Street. There are at least 10-15 Hot Toc places all along this street. That seem to start opening around 11 am, but you will get more options as the afternoon progresses.
Originally taken there at night by my Viet guide, but went back a couple of times. The pimps out the front will welcome you in and if you act ignorant like me, just go in and have a look. If you don't like the goods, just smile say thanks and walk out. Not speaking Viet is actually a plus in this case, as you won't understand when they curse at you for not staying.
In the end I only participated with shop #84. It's a standard price 400 K for BBBJ (and CIM in my case). Tried twice, both experiences were great. Friendly girls, friendly mama, nice big room and great service. The 2nd time I went there I took 2 girls up for a double BBBJ / CIM fantasy session. 800 K bargain (compared to what I paid in little Tokyo on another day).
Other shops along the street had some cuties too, but I can't recharge fast enough to try out so many shops.[/QUOTE]
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Benny
A few weeks ago I showed up at Benny's and it was no different from 8 months ago. A few girls in the front not to my liking so I asked to see more. A few min later about five more girls all in 20's came from back and upstairs and I saw two of them 8's or so. I picked the see cup and she also had a cute smile.
I drop 200 k at counter to old lady. We went up a flight into a stall. She pulls curtains starts taking off my clothes except for shorts. They started keeping on bottom of your feet. In case of fast getaway I suppose.
Anyway she did an excellent BBBJ to CIM and never stopped. She went to spit and came back and wiped me clean with wet towelettes. She gave me a nice hug I tipped her 200 k and she was ok with it. We walked down to front hopped on my scooter as she waved bye and I left.
Overall I think NPK has better looking girls but the job was as good here.
Enjoy all!
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[QUOTE=CRLuverGuy;1816053]Do you remember their names?.[/QUOTE]Of the girls at #84 ? No idea, all generic Viet names to me like Ngoc, Nha, Ngang.
On the 2 times I went there, was able to select from around 8 girls. All very nice. Esp for the price and these girls are real BJ technicians.
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86 Nguyen Phi kanh
So I've been going to 86 NPK for the past 2 weeks now. I've been seeing this girl named Nga. She's awesome. So anyways, today around 9 pm, I walked in and there was a line up of guys, now I'm not the one to wait around and be someone's sloppy second. I know what everyone's thinking, but it's the mental thing. So anyways, as I was contemplating on waiting, there was this foreigner who was being a douche. The manager was requesting for him to sit down and wait, he was giving some BS attitude telling people how he didn't like it when people ordered him to sit. He'll sit when he wants to sit. Guys, come the fuck on. Stop being idiots. Please! There's no need to act that way. Just relax and be polite. There's a language barrier. He didn't mean to be rude, do there's no need to get offended. Just sit your ass down and relax. People like this will ruin it for the rest of the foreigners.
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Bennys
So after realizing that 86 NPK was full, decided that I would rather go else where for a quick blow. So I walked back a few places down and saw this other Gio Dau place. I asked the door man how much, he said 400 k. I said 300 K and he said OK. So he opened the door and this old nasty looking woman, probably in her 40's with dark teeth tried to lead me up the stairs. I looked up the stairs and said to her in Vietnamese "I'll come back tomorrow" and left. I called a Xe Om and asked him to bring me to 110 (Benny's).
We arrived at Benny's. I walked in and all of a sudden this gorgeous girl walked up to me and led me to the sitting area. She then said to me 400 k. I said to her in Vietnamese "I will pay when the deed is done". She said that's not how it works here. So figuring how the last few places I went to was either busy or full of crappy ugly old ladies, I took my chances with this one. So I gave her the 400 k. I was then led upstairs to this massage table. I started taking off my clothes and the girl stopped me. She says that's not how it works here, please put your clothes back on and lay on the table facing up. I was a little stunned. I didn't come here for a rub down. Then I heard a sucking and moaning noise. That's when I was like "OK. I'm ready when you are! ". She smiled and unzipped my shorts and pulled my shorts and boxers to my ankles and started to wipe me down. Then she unzipped her top and pulled them down, exposing her huge tits. OMG. Those things were fantastic. Then I reached up her dress and pulled her panties down and grabbing and rubbing her snatch. She then started licking my nipples and gently rubbing my cock. After a few minutes I got bored so I pushed her head down and she says to me I guess you're ready to get sucked. Yes I am. At this point, am as hard and ready as I will ever be. So then moves to the balls. Started sucking and licking them. Then onto the shaft. She started sucking ever so gracefully. I was pushing her head down and she was giving me this wicked deep throat. I never in my wildest dreams have ever imagined a Vietnamese girl even consider doing deep throat. But this girl did it and man did it feel good.
So after I blew my load in her mouth, she continued sucking for an additional 10 seconds or so. Then off I went. What a great experience.
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86 or 84 npk
Hello,
Did visit this shop 3 days in a row.
First day I did get a bigger room and the girl appointed to me did a real good job. She did put one leg up on the bench while standing so I could touch her pussy really well.
The second day I got a smaller cabin and was offered to choose the girl myself. Again nice session.
The third day I did go for 2 girls. In fact when I talked to the first one she suggested to take 2. The girl did know her job very well but somehow I didn't get excited. The girls start talking Vietnamese probably about me. I want to touch one of the girls sexy fruits but all she could say was red.
Somehow it feed go downhill and I said we stop. They did look a bit scared, disappointed thinking I was going to Champlain to the manager after I did ask their names again. I didn't.
They did not want me to come in their face or hair so they covered their hair with a towel when kneeling down and were expecting me to cum.
Next time I will just repeat girl one or two or ask the manager which girl can do CIM.
After that did go other shop in the same street 111 b. Some nice girls there too. But the girls are not as naughty as I want them to be LOL.
It is of course also a bit of chemistry but if you cont speak their language it is a but hard.
Greetings.
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[QUOTE=FritsVanegter;1817296]Hello,
Did visit this shop 3 days in a row.
First day I did get a bigger room and the girl appointed to me did a real good job. She did put one leg up on the bench while standing so I could touch her pussy really well.
The second day I got a smaller cabin and was offered to choose the girl myself. Again nice session.
The third day I did go for 2 girls. In fact when I talked to the first one she suggested to take 2. The girl did know her job very well but somehow I didn't get excited. The girls start talking Vietnamese probably about me. I want to touch one of the girls sexy fruits but all she could say was red.
Somehow it feed go downhill and I said we stop. They did look a bit scared, disappointed thinking I was going to Champlain to the manager after I did ask their names again. I didn't..[/QUOTE]I prefer 86. Girls there are nicer and better looking. I had Nga a few times. She's really perky and fun.
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Any places in Thao Dien Quan 2?
I'm hoping to find a good place close to home in Thao Dien so I can visit more often.
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Another NPK 84 visit
Hello,
I think 86 is the number of the coffee shop next door.
Today did pay another visit. Did take the girl from my first visit plus another one. They did work more as a team.
Names were Nhi and Nha but hot were afraid as hell to get any cum on their face or hair.
Nga wasn't there. I want to have a session with a girl that will allow CIM preferably also swallow.
Will ask the guy sitting outside using google translate.
Some girls continue playing with their phones are watching Vietnamese soap after you enter. But only need a few to make a choice. It is not like snow white in BKK but in HCMC the girls are surely better looking. No stretch marks, firm tits and so far only dense jungle between the tights.
While drinking coffee next door did only see Vietnamese men go inside.
To me this place is a bargain but the girls should be more naughty!
Friday will probably pay another visit and try to find Nga.
Greetings.
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35 V Th SU, & a Kao, Qu 1, I hope I got the address right, I was taken here by a moto bike guy I now and this was the first time I got him to take me somewhere like this so as I was leaving I checked the location on my phone and made a not of landmarks as we were leaving, the Citilight Tower was just a short way further down the road.
I've put this in the Hot Toc section because that's what it said above the door and they do have the barber chairs but this was not one of those places like Benny's where you just go in, get sucked off and leave.
My driver did the negotiation for me and he knew I wanted full access and not just a quick BJ. I will say the place is a bit grotty but bearable, after all I wasn't there for the decor.
Once the negotiation was done I was told the fee was 1 m total, that was for massage, sex and tip, not cheap but cheap enough to still be pocket change so no problem and I agreed. Then 5 girls were called through for me to choose one, all OK looking, no stunners but all doable, I chose the cutest one, body 8/10.
I was led upstairs to a small room with a massage table and a hair washing basin, after all this is meant to be a Hot Toc. She told me to undress and get on the massage table while she went and got ready, she seemed a little surprised to find me totally naked when she returned, maybe other guys leave their shorts on but well we both know it's going in her mouth so she might as well see it at the start.
The massage was poor but she let me feel her up all I wanted and after a short while I just wanted to get on with it as I was getting nothing out of the massage. I got her to take her dress off and she had on a nice sexy matched bra and knicker set, I motioned for to stand back and let me look at her and she did have a good body, I reached out and got her spread her legs and I took her hand and put it in her knickers for her to play with herself which she willingly did. Anyway moving on she was clearly up for anything and keen to please, she was a fantastic kisser and I even had her gagging on my tongue, fantastic.
The highlight was one of the most amazing 69's I've ever had, she clearly loved having her pussy eaten, I'd got her wet before she got on top and once I started on her clit she just went off and started pushing her pussy in my face, she was working my cock nice and slow, she clearly wanted me to last until after she had cum and it wasn't long until she had tensed up and her thighs tightened, I even tried my luck and pushed a finger in her arse and she ever loved it or was an Oscar winning actor.
So to sum up, grotty place, lame massage but fantastic sex from a very enthusiastic girl so not sure if I'd ever go back.
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I've noticed we have some new members here and some guys who make the rounds to all the forum threads.
Please stop posting addresses and stop being so explicit in your reports because the boys in green want to keep this business on the down low. As long as everything is quiet its fine, but I've been here 4 years, and I've seen these places get raided about the same time there was a lot of activity on the forums and too much explicit talk about what and where things are happening.
So please for the love of Saigon, use code words, abbreviations and such. Feel free to send exact details through private messaging. I've seen Benny's closed 3 or 4 times since I've lived here and I don't want to be the sorry guy who's getting served when they come busting in either.
Please be more discreet when posting on a public forum like this.
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December 29,2015 Trip report
OK, I'm in Vietnam. I have not been here since last year. I noticed a lot has changed. Some places have closed and some new ones have opened. At the suggestion of American Thief I agree and will not post addresses. In Vietnam the two biggest things I can recommend is having exact change. If you give a big bill to the Hot Toc ect it just causes you problems. Second, there are two sides of Vietnam. If you come here as a tourist and just ask how much is the massage etc. You will get treated like a sucker. You will be fined and penalized for being stupid. You instead ask what is the price or cost of a ticket? The bill will shrink down from 500,000 to 150,000. I did get charged 250,000 for a ticket at one place and just was not in the mood to fight over a few dollars. But, maybe that was the ticket cost just seemed a little high. I went to District 3 today. Many many hot tocs. Cost is usually 125-150 for ticket and for a BJ yum yum it is 300,000. 300 is what seems to be the price girls are happy with. Some people posted cheaper but I am happy paying 300. If they think you don't know what the real price is you will pay from 500,000 to 1 million. Very hard to find FS. I did find it in a hot toc and the cost is 1 million. Some girls if they think you are clueless will ask for a tip after you already paid. You never pay any more tip. Now at some places guys lead you to the room and want 50-100,000. I am not sure how to deal with that. The guys will refuse to leave. At the FS place I found last year that was like filled with gangsters. There was a guy that took my money and refused to give me change. I had to chase him down and then he gave me an attitude for not letting him rob me. That place was closed down. I went to a different place down the street from the old place that closed down and guess who was working there and lead me to the room. It was him. He leads me to the room and wants 50,000 just for walking me to the room. I tipped him 15,000 which is the cost of maybe and ice tea. He was pissed and walked out. Anyway, sometimes no matter where you are there will be a guy attendant that walks you to the room or shower etc. They will start a scam by saying you want a beautiful girl right? You want good service from her right? You want boom boom right? Tip me and I will make sure you get real good service. He has nothing to do with anything. He is just trying to make money of the side.
There was a massage place I went to last year in district 3. This chick oiled me up stood on my back and slid back and forth. It was the best massage I ever got. She wanted 500 for a HJ and that all she did. I declined but still tipped her 200 for that massage. It was unbelievable. I went back to that place expecting the same service. This time the girl puts no oil on me. The massage sucked. She offered at the end a HJ or BBBJ. Cost of BBBJ was 500. I reluctantly agreed. She would just put the tip and and it was mostly a HJ. I told her want I wanted and she refused. I got up after like 3 seconds and said I'm leaving I will tip. I tipped her 300,000 and left. As I was leaving two guys run up asking me if I liked the massage and if the girl was beautiful. She was pretty. But I told them no I did not like the massage. That stopped everything right their and they did not ask me for any tip. The bathroom guy wanted 50,000. If I remember last year they had a tip slip and it started at 20,000. The smaller bill I had was like 50,000 so I just gave it to them. I just wanted to get out of there. Worried a little bit about the girl I walked out on.
On a side note. I went out eat last night at an outdoor restaurant. This Viet guy sat down at my table and started to talk to me. He was like 24 years old. He invited me to eat with him and his friends. I was waiting for him to scam me somehow. Then he wanted to buy me a beer and I told him I don't drink. Really weird. He goes back to his table and grabbed a fresh pork dish untouched. He puts in on my table and says this is a gift. He then says when the bill comes do not pay for it. Just pay for what you ordered. It was excellent pork. I don't know what that was about. Maybe he ordered me dog or something. But I don't think so. Anyway, no scam he was just know. I thanked him on my way out and left.
My trip continues.
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[QUOTE=TomSf;1819594]OK, I'm in Vietnam. I have not been here since last year. I noticed a lot has changed. Some places have closed and some new ones have opened. At the suggestion of American Thief I agree and will not post addresses. In Vietnam the two biggest things I can recommend is having exact change. If you give a big bill to the Hot Toc ect it just causes you problems. Second, there are two sides of Vietnam. If you come here as a tourist and just ask how much is the massage etc. You will get treated like a sucker. You will be fined and penalized for being stupid. You instead ask what is the price or cost of a ticket? The bill will shrink down from 500,000 to 150,000. I did get charged 250,000 for a ticket at one place and just was not in the mood to fight over a few dollars. But, maybe that was the ticket cost just seemed a little high. I went to District 3 today. Many many hot tocs. Cost is usually 125-150 for ticket and for a BJ yum yum it is 300,000. 300 is what seems to be the price girls are happy with. Some people posted cheaper but I am happy paying 300. If they think you don't know what the real price is you will pay from 500,000 to 1 million. Very hard to find FS. I did find it in a hot toc and the cost is 1 million. Some girls if they think you are clueless will ask for a tip after you already paid. You never pay any more tip. Now at some places guys lead you to the room and want 50-100,000. I am not sure how to deal with that. The guys will refuse to leave. At the FS place I found last year that was like filled with gangsters. There was a guy that took my money and refused to give me change. I had to chase him down and then he gave me an attitude for not letting him rob me. That place was closed down. I went to a different place down the street from the old place that closed down and guess who was working there and lead me to the room. It was him. He leads me to the room and wants 50,000 just for walking me to the room. I tipped him 15,000 which is the cost of maybe and ice tea. He was pissed and walked out. Anyway, sometimes no matter where you are there will be a guy attendant that walks you to the room or shower etc. They will start a scam by saying you want a beautiful girl right? You want good service from her right? You want boom boom right? Tip me and I will make sure you get real good service. He has nothing to do with anything. He is just trying to make money of the side.
There was a massage place I went to last year in district 3. This chick oiled me up stood on my back and slid back and forth. It was the best massage I ever got. She wanted 500 for a HJ and that all she did. I declined but still tipped her 200 for that massage. It was unbelievable. I went back to that place expecting the same service. This time the girl puts no oil on me. The massage sucked. She offered at the end a HJ or BBBJ. Cost of BBBJ was 500. I reluctantly agreed. She would just put the tip and and it was mostly a HJ. I told her want I wanted and she refused. I got up after like 3 seconds and said I'm leaving I will tip. I tipped her 300,000 and left. As I was leaving two guys run up asking me if I liked the massage and if the girl was beautiful. She was pretty. But I told them no I did not like the massage. That stopped everything right their and they did not ask me for any tip. The bathroom guy wanted 50,000. If I remember last year they had a tip slip and it started at 20,000. The smaller bill I had was like 50,000 so I just gave it to them. I just wanted to get out of there. Worried a little bit about the girl I walked out on.
My trip continues.[/QUOTE]LOL.
I don't drink either and the vietnamese say "A man that doesn't drink alcohol is like a flag without wind".
I am amazed at all the beer the people in the south drink, men and women. There is a huge alcohol and cigarette problem in VN as per the medical literature, cheap beer and cigarettes. Especially drinking and driving (they call drink driving).
GG.
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[QUOTE=TomSf;1819594]OK, I'm in Vietnam. I have not been here since last year. I noticed a lot has changed. Some places have closed and some new ones have opened. At the suggestion of American Thief I agree and will not post addresses. In Vietnam the two biggest things I can recommend is having exact change. If you give a big bill to the Hot Toc ect it just causes you problems. Second, there are two sides of Vietnam. If you come here as a tourist and just ask how much is the massage etc. You will get treated like a sucker. You will be fined and penalized for being stupid. You instead ask what is the price or cost of a ticket? The bill will shrink down from 500,000 to 150,000. I did get charged 250,000 for a ticket at one place and just was not in the mood to fight over a few dollars. But, maybe that was the ticket cost just seemed a little high. I went to District 3 today. Many many hot tocs. Cost is usually 125-150 for ticket and for a BJ yum yum it is 300,000. 300 is what seems to be the price girls are happy with. Some people posted cheaper but I am happy paying 300. If they think you don't know what the real price is you will pay from 500,000 to 1 million. Very hard to find FS. I did find it in a hot toc and the cost is 1 million. Some girls if they think you are clueless will ask for a tip after you already paid. You never pay any more tip. Now at some places guys lead you to the room and want 50-100,000. I am not sure how to deal with that. The guys will refuse to leave. At the FS place I found last year that was like filled with gangsters. There was a guy that took my money and refused to give me change. I had to chase him down and then he gave me an attitude for not letting him rob me. That place was closed down. I went to a different place down the street from the old place that closed down and guess who was working there and lead me to the room. It was him. He leads me to the room and wants 50,000 just for walking me to the room. I tipped him 15,000 which is the cost of maybe and ice tea. He was pissed and walked out. Anyway, sometimes no matter where you are there will be a guy attendant that walks you to the room or shower etc. They will start a scam by saying you want a beautiful girl right? You want good service from her right? You want boom boom right? Tip me and I will make sure you get real good service. He has nothing to do with anything. He is just trying to make money of the side.
There was a massage place I went to last year in district 3. This chick oiled me up stood on my back and slid back and forth. It was the best massage I ever got. She wanted 500 for a HJ and that all she did. I declined but still tipped her 200 for that massage..[/QUOTE]TLDR- I stopped when you said very hard to find FS. Here is where I know that you don't know.
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[QUOTE=AmericanThief;1819853]TLDR- I stopped when you said very hard to find FS. Here is where I know that you don't know.[/QUOTE]American Theif,
I am not really sure what your post means. Vietnam is no Thailand. 100's of Hookers are not just standing on the corner waiting for you to pick them up. There are the motor bike girls. But, the problem with them is they speak very little English so very hard to negotiate where to meet you etc with out drawing too much attention to yourself. So if you feel safe to hop of the back of their bike and go to a place they take you be my guest. I won't do that. In hot tocs the girls are basically independent freelancers. Some maybe 10 out of 100 will do FS and it will be rushed. Most of the time it is just a BBBJ. There are we chat girls.
Anyway, I did get a motor bike girl today. She had a woman driver that spoke good English. I keep my hotel card in my back pocket for situations like this. I gave the tout my hotel card and said just meet me here in 5 minutes. She drove off in front of me. Which was great because many people on the sidewalks watching us. They meet me at my hotel. As she walks in the front desk guy stops her and they ask for her ID. She gives it to them and she follows me to my room. She wanted money first but I convinced her money after. She was OK with that. Very nice experience. After she left I went back out to get something to drink and there she is again making circles on her bike waving Hi to me as she drives by. Kind of funny.
So I eat at this restaurant tonight after the motor bike girl. As I leave the restaurant this young guys about 23-24 years old starts talking to me in his broken English walking with me. He asks why I'm in Vietnam and how I like it etc. I notice his friend following us about 5 feet behind me. His friend was extremely small like 5'4 and 90 pounds. I was tracking him behind me. So then the guy that is walking with me ask me to help him. I'm thinking what do you want money? He said that a girl that he likes is waiting for him in this apartment building that we are in front of. He said he wants me to go in the apartment building with him and tell this girl that he loves her. This is the worst line I have ever heard in my life. If you want to rob me buddy get a better line. I did not feel in danger by him. Maybe there was a hooker inside or something. But, something was wrong. I told him sorry and kept on walking.
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Nonsense. The whole point of this thread is to share information. Like the men in green don't already know where these places are. Please. The sex trade drives Saigon. The only reason Benny's may close is because some corrupt cop didn't get his cut. It has nothing to do with this site. Nada. I encourage people to share good info. Use abbreviations for streets, sure, but don't hide the goods. Benny's is great, but variety is the spice of life.
[QUOTE=AmericanThief;1818215]I've noticed we have some new members here and some guys who make the rounds to all the forum threads.
Please stop posting addresses and stop being so explicit in your reports because the boys in green want to keep this business on the down low. As long as everything is quiet its fine, but I've been here 4 years, and I've seen these places get raided about the same time there was a lot of activity on the forums and too much explicit talk about what and where things are happening..[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=MeSoHornie;1822312]Nonsense. The whole point of this thread is to share information. Like the men in green don't already know where these places are. Please. The sex trade drives Saigon. The only reason Benny's may close is because some corrupt cop didn't get his cut. It has nothing to do with this site. Nada. I encourage people to share good info. Use abbreviations for streets, sure, but don't hide the goods. Benny's is great, but variety is the spice of life.[/QUOTE]Why is it always the guys who call nonsense and advocating unrestricted sharing the same guys who have zero reports and shared nothing themselves.
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Bogus logic, mate, and doesn't address my point about why his admonitions about revealing concrete info are completely irrelevant for the handful of times Benny's seems to have closed (funny, that, how it always somehow manages to open right back up). Now, to answer your question, I absolutely would share more if I could, but I'm relatively new in residence here. I visited for short periods several years ago, but had never lived here before now. So once I learn the lay of the land, I will certainly be forthcoming with my info. Count on it.
[QUOTE=MutantChicken;1822510]Why is it always the guys who call nonsense and advocating unrestricted sharing the same guys who have zero reports and shared nothing themselves.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=MeSoHornie;1822312]Nonsense. The whole point of this thread is to share information. Like the men in green don't already know where these places are. Please. The sex trade drives Saigon. The only reason Benny's may close is because some corrupt cop didn't get his cut. It has nothing to do with this site. Nada. I encourage people to share good info. Use abbreviations for streets, sure, but don't hide the goods. Benny's is great, but variety is the spice of life.[/QUOTE]I totally agree, of course the men in green know where they are and I've been told this by a local that has taken me to full service places. Benny's is a great example as it's talked about on so many websites, one that I read even had a google maps link because people were having trouble finding it because the street numbers were repeated in a neighboring district. To think that if we write in code somehow only us expats would be able to understand it and the men in green would be too stupid to understand is extremely naive. If we give enough info for an expat to find the place and to know what services are available the men in green will also understand and if we don't give the info then what's the point of this forum? If we post without giving a location then is it just to boast? Are we then meant to pm the member to ask for the location remembering the men in green are too stupid to join and pm? This then throws up another issue as we already have a member that will charge you for his information.
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[QUOTE=Higgins69;1822890]I totally agree, of course the men in green know where they are and I've been told this by a local that has taken me to full service places. Benny's is a great example as it's talked about on so many websites, one that I read even had a google maps link because people were having trouble finding it because the street numbers were repeated in a neighboring district. To think that if we write in code somehow only us expats would be able to understand it and the men in green would be too stupid to understand is extremely naive. If we give enough info for an expat to find the place and to know what services are available the men in green will also understand and if we don't give the info then what's the point of this forum? If we post without giving a location then is it just to boast? Are we then meant to pm the member to ask for the location remembering the men in green are too stupid to join and pm? This then throws up another issue as we already have a member that will charge you for his information.[/QUOTE]At the point of beating dead horse. When it comes to illicit business of corruption, LE (and Custom Dept) in developing countries are highly advanced / motivated. In other matters including do the job they swore an oath to, they can often times be unbelievably dumb. But I've seen inner working for LE in Thailand and VN and it's amazing how well organized they are at identifying prospects (MP, karaoke, and the likes) and not just follow up with with them (monthly legal extortion), but upselling (I. E. Oh we have New Year party coming and need donation for raffles).
I remember how LE in Bangkok contacted new hidden MP (those house type in neighborhood with zero sign). Less than 2 weeks after it opened! Most punters don't even know about it yet but here comes our beloved early adopters LE.
For custom, man, these guys know more about luxury brands (including esoteric ones) than average female shoppers. And know their retail worth (so they can properly extract right percentage for it). Too bad these diligent works only applied to corruption / extortion.
So, please share away if LE is your reason for not doing so. However, if you're concerned about some idiotic bros ruining your watering hole. Then that's personal discretion.
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142 npk
Tried a new place today, I was taken here by my 'tour guide' so I hope I got the number right, it was definitely the infamous NPK we here so much about and I looked at the number above the door as we left and it said 142. It was on the right just before the slight corner. I tried searching for any info on this place on here and I couldn't find any so I thought I'd share. Downstairs there is just motorbike parking and you have to go up 1 floor for where the girls are and you get serviced on the 2 floors above that. The choice of girls was OK, I chose 2 and I'd say they were 8/10.
Both had great tits, some of the best I'd had and they did a decent BBBJ and CIM but other than that it was fairly rubbish, it was rushed and they just went through their routine, every time I touched them they moaned with pleasure which was just very bad acting, no girl ever moans with pleasure the instant you touch their tits. It's the first time I got 2 girls and it was very disappointing and they kept talking to each other in Vietnamese. It wasn't awful but I wouldn't go back.
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68 npk
Quick one. My very last day in Saigon made a flying visit to NPK before the airport.
Was around 11 am, #68 was open and had 3 awesome girls avail. Was trying to decide, then a 4th rode her motobike in. Wow a total teen like body and cute face! Sold to ALO for 400 K. Amazed she was actually 22.
All girls / boss there were friendly. Another one to add to your lists.
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[QUOTE=AsianLoverOz;1835189]Quick one. My very last day in Saigon made a flying visit to NPK before the airport.
Was around 11 am, #68 was open and had 3 awesome girls avail. Was trying to decide, then a 4th rode her motobike in. Wow a total teen like body and cute face! Sold to ALO for 400 K. Amazed she was actually 22.
All girls / boss there were friendly. Another one to add to your lists.[/QUOTE]I have had a new Goi Dau that have FS in there, just PM me if you want the information.
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Last day in HCMC
After reviewing the forum and reports of distinction, I am hoping for a suggestion on my last day in HCMC. I am staying by the river in District 1, 5 minutes by moto and Southeast of Bin Tanh.
It seems FS is rarely on the menu, but would be my preference if it were easy to find. The BJ value offering works fine though. Also, I haven't seen any posts that are less than 15 minutes from District 1. Of the following places I found below, where would you choose to go? (It would also help if there was a little shopping nearby. I could go twice today and avoid Bin Tanh again if I can).
Nguyen Phi Khan Street.
Khch Sạand Kathy hotel - 795, L Hồng Phong P. 12, Q. 10.
LE Van Luong St & 15St, District 7.
(Bai Vi Street, Tan Binh District, near airport is probably too far, but would you be comfortable going to one of these places with all your bags at 2:30 pm before flying?
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[QUOTE=Cm6363;1840438]After reviewing the forum and reports of distinction, I am hoping for a suggestion on my last day in HCMC. I am staying by the river in District 1, 5 minutes by moto and Southeast of Bin Tanh.
It seems FS is rarely on the menu, but would be my preference if it were easy to find. The BJ value offering works fine though. Also, I haven't seen any posts that are less than 15 minutes from District 1. Of the following places I found below, where would you choose to go? (It would also help if there was a little shopping nearby. I could go twice today and avoid Bin Tanh again if I can).
Nguyen Phi Khan Street.
Khch Sạand Kathy hotel - 795, L Hồng Phong P. 12, Q. 10.
LE Van Luong St & 15St, District 7.
(Bai Vi Street, Tan Binh District, near airport is probably too far, but would you be comfortable going to one of these places with all your bags at 2:30 pm before flying?[/QUOTE]In my experience FS is more available at LE Hong Phong, most if not all, are FS. The level of service varies greatly (definitely YMMV). I used it mainly for quickies so I have no complain thus far. If you expect true GFE in Vietnam, it takes some time, may be repeat visits to get the girl warm up to you. Vietnamese women are slow to warm up, but once they are, they can be really hot.
I would NOT take any luggage to any of these places. You are safer just ask the hotel to keep your luggage after check out, go have your fun, and come back later to claim your luggage. Most hotel in D1 will do this for free, some would even do it for several days if you go on tours. Good luck.
Peter
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Girls at Hotel Kathy 795 LE Hong Phong Dist 10
About 130 girls list their contacts in district 10 and work out of 2 clusters of hotels on LE Hong Phong and Su Van Hanh. They are all probably within half a mile radius.
The girls usually work between noon and midnight. Don't know what time you have to be at the airport, but the taxi ride from Q10 to the airport is normally about half hour.
I PMeed you the list of about 12 of my preferred girls in Dist 10, IE. Pretty, small frame, slim, flat abs, nice skin, sexy attitudes etc. I would text a few girls to find out what hotel and what time they work and take my luggage to the ST hotel and leave it with the reception desk or the moto parking guys, and give them a tip. They will watch it for you while you screw the girls.
You can hire the moto guys to bring in the girls, or take short moto rides to whatever other ST hotels the girls want you to go to in that area. Or ask the reception girl to set you up with any girls at the hotel. That young chick working at hotel Cathy is so hot I wanted to do her so bad. Hehe. The ST hotels are all within 5 to 10-minute rides apart, costing only 10-15 K VnD. I rode all the way from Dist 1 to Dist 10, about 8-10 miles, on the back of a moto for 30 K VnD.
If you have 2 to 3 hours to spend in this area of Dist 10, you may be able to book and boink 3 to 4 girls before leaving for the airport. Some of the girls in this area were so young, hot and passionate in bed I repeated a couple times.
[QUOTE=Cm6363;1840438]After reviewing the forum and reports of distinction, I am hoping for a suggestion on my last day in HCMC. I am staying by the river in District 1, 5 minutes by moto and Southeast of Bin Tanh.
It seems FS is rarely on the menu, but would be my preference if it were easy to find. The BJ value offering works fine though. Also, I haven't seen any posts that are less than 15 minutes from District 1. Of the following places I found below, where would you choose to go? (It would also help if there was a little shopping nearby. I could go twice today and avoid Bin Tanh again if I can).
Nguyen Phi Khan Street.
Khch Sạand Kathy hotel - 795, L Hồng Phong P. 12, Q. 10.
LE Van Luong St & 15St, District 7.
(Bai Vi Street, Tan Binh District, near airport is probably too far, but would you be comfortable going to one of these places with all your bags at 2:30 pm before flying?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Cm6363;1840438]After reviewing the forum and reports of distinction, I am hoping for a suggestion on my last day in HCMC. I am staying by the river in District 1, 5 minutes by moto and Southeast of Bin Tanh.
It seems FS is rarely on the menu, but would be my preference if it were easy to find. The BJ value offering works fine though. Also, I haven't seen any posts that are less than 15 minutes from District 1. Of the following places I found below, where would you choose to go? (It would also help if there was a little shopping nearby. I could go twice today and avoid Bin Tanh again if I can).
Nguyen Phi Khan Street.
Khch Sạand Kathy hotel - 795, L Hồng Phong P. 12, Q. 10.
LE Van Luong St & 15St, District 7.
(Bai Vi Street, Tan Binh District, near airport is probably too far, but would you be comfortable going to one of these places with all your bags at 2:30 pm before flying?[/QUOTE]NPK is good for blow jobs, good service reported.
Kathy is a hotel used by website girls, but you can go there and ask for "room service".
LE Van Luong just has one cafe om of the hug type, very tame and not worth a visit IMO, especially that far away and isolated as it is. No BJ, no HJ, and surely no FS at that place.
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[QUOTE=Wendella;1840565]NPK is good for blow jobs, good service reported.
Kathy is a hotel used by website girls, but you can go there and ask for "room service".
LE Van Luong just has one cafe om of the hug type, very tame and not worth a visit IMO, especially that far away and isolated as it is. No BJ, no HJ, and surely no FS at that place.[/QUOTE]I call BS on the "room" service at hotel Khathy. I have used that hotel 12+ times, I have never been offered room service, I have never seen any activity by other guys that indicated room service is avail. The hotels does good business from the freelancers already, why would they risk "pimping" charges on top of whatever they are doing, where they can feign ignorance about. And just as a comparison, I got a lead to a bellboy who works at a hotel near Kathy, I went there looking for him, and the shift manager asked me why I was looking for said bellboy, I gave some answer like family issues, the manager made it very clean that prostitution was not tolerated there and that if the boy boy was offering me girls then he will be sacked immediately if discovered. Now you add this to the fact tat apart from the bike watcher, all the staff in Kathy is female, and the fact that in the past whenever hotel staff have been charged in related to prostitution, its because the staff, procured room service for hotel guests. Regardless of what another poster has written regarding Kathy, those in the know would have known that it was nothing more than baseless speculation, the said poster was more filled with hot air than factual so unless someone has been offered room service at Kathy which I believe isn't the case I call BS.
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[QUOTE=MutantChicken;1840591] I call BS.[/QUOTE]I PM'd you in response to this but for the forum I'll just say my experience at Kathy is very limited and no I never noticed room service there myself, but did notice girls seeming to be kept in rooms there ready to come serve a customer, so it didn't seem like that big a stretch. I have one VN friend who reported getting room service like Luke described but in a D8 hotel. And he goes to that one regularly and does it that way. So basically it seemed plausible to me. But you could be right. I'm not feeling like this is one I need to get to the bottom of myself. I'd never do the room service way, not my style. I hate that one girl at a time way they always like to show you girls here.
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[QUOTE=Wendella;1840670]I PM'd you in response to this but for the forum I'll just say my experience at Kathy is very limited and no I never noticed room service there myself, but did notice girls seeming to be kept in rooms there ready to come serve a customer, so it didn't seem like that big a stretch. I have one VN friend who reported getting room service like Luke described but in a D8 hotel. And he goes to that one regularly and does it that way. So basically it seemed plausible to me. But you could be right. I'm not feeling like this is one I need to get to the bottom of myself. I'd never do the room service way, not my style. I hate that one girl at a time way they always like to show you girls here.[/QUOTE]Like I PM you already, I think its not helpful to post stuff that is plausible or possible , without making its clear that is purely speculation on the posters part. Anything else would just lead to people going there expecting ABC as was written, and then wasting their time. And the girls aren't "Kept" in rooms there, some girls take rooms there for their short stay work stints, others stay nearby the come over by their bikes or ex om. The girls activities are whole independent from the hotel operators, well that's what the girls tell me, they tell me how the pimps and how the webmasters operate in terms of the division of money, so I can't see why they would lie about the hotel.
Further in regards to the other posters comments, 9/10 girls arrive and leave wearing that face mask, a lot of times girls will turn up at my room wearing it and until you get them in the room will you be able to see what they look like, you can't even look thru the keyhole to make a decision. So the idea of hanging around to check out the talent is foolish, secondly I have asked girls opinions how they would feel about someone going up to ask for their number, most are reluctant, some are willing to give their numbers. But the idea you can stop them in the middle of the hotel check them out and ask their price etc is again a foolish idea, these girls want to be discreet as possible. Trust me I have tried (in Hanoi), and its not very rewarding.
Likewise from what Wendella has indicated, getting the staff to provide room service is also not a very efficient way, as firstly the staff will want to make a commission and it won't be the measly 50 k someone suggested, think more getting a 300 k girl and selling it to you for 500 k, then you will be sitting there waiting for the delivery, one girl at a time, the longer it takes the better as you are being charged for the room. You will be going in totally blind, whereas with the websites you have at least a general idea. Even when you reject the room service you will be pressured to provide taxi money for the girls. And finally the hotel speaks very little English so the problems you have communicating whilst negotiating with the online girls will be there negotiating with the hotel staff.
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NPK vs. Bennys
Here now long enough to sample both. I've been trying out NPK based on some posting here. #68 did not live up to its review, but #84 is a keeper. Haven't had a bad experience there yet. Excellent technique by every lady I've encountered there as well. Better looking too, overall, than #68. And overall, I'd rank it ahead of Benny's for those same reasons. 400 k all-in. But I do have a couple of favorites at Benny's, so will be heading back. They just opened back up yesterday, I think. I haven't seen my fave there in a while now, hope she hasn't moved on.
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Room service
The hotels don't keep their own stable of girls ready for clients, but quite a few girls live and work out of these hotels. Reception people know who are working and can reach them.
If you are not selective who you want to fuck, you can discreetly slip a tip to the reception girl and tell her your needs. She could discreetly ring whoever is available and send her to your room. I was quizzing her and the moto guys about the other girls living / working in the hotel, but they were naturally reluctant to discuss them.
As long as you don't look like an undercover vice cop and are willing to spend a little money, you can have all kinds of personal services.
[QUOTE=Wendella;1840670]I PM'd you in response to this but for the forum I'll just say my experience at Kathy is very limited and no I never noticed room service there myself, but did notice girls seeming to be kept in rooms there ready to come serve a customer, so it didn't seem like that big a stretch. I have one VN friend who reported getting room service like Luke described but in a D8 hotel. And he goes to that one regularly and does it that way. So basically it seemed plausible to me. But you could be right. I'm not feeling like this is one I need to get to the bottom of myself. I'd never do the room service way, not my style. I hate that one girl at a time way they always like to show you girls here.[/QUOTE]
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Calrification re Room Service
My statement, re hotels Cathy and Hoang Ha on LE Hong Phong, seemed to have stepped on some toes of people with business motives.
To clarify my previous statement, the hotel does not maintain their own stable of girls on premises for clients to screw, literally as termed "room service. " But If you are in a hurry, don't have the girls' phones, are not selective and can take any girl available, the reception girl knows which girls just checked in and are ready to work. She can ring and send 1 of them to your room. Most girls are sexy and fun enough for a quick roll in bed.
Or you can hang out at the little cafe behind these 2 hotels and check out the girls who come out for coffee. Some were young and very good-looking.
I made appointments with a few internet girls based on their good looks in the pics, but quite a few showed up looked significantly older and chunkier than their pics, which turned me off. I got erections but had problem coming, even though the girls were obliging and did every thing I wanted.
Some of the hos in District 1 were so rough, rude, old and ugly, it was a waste of time and money. I have to see and check out the girls first hand and cannot just take any girl sent up by the hotel. Even if they got into the room but look significantly worse than their pics I would just send them packing and text others.
Hotel Cathy charges 50 K VnD ($2) for 1 hour but only 200 K VnD ($8) for the whole day. The room is large, clean and cool with A / see. It's worth renting a room all day to check out the girls and have longer, unrushed sessions with them.
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The 200 K VnD overnight
Error again.
Hotel Cathy charges 400 K Vnd overnight.
The 200 K VnD overnight deals are at hotel Dung Hanh and Cali, about half mile away, which actually have nicer rooms and in a better location, next to the sexy HTGDs on Su Van Hanh.
[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker;1840756]Hotel Cathy charges 50 K VnD ($2) for 1 hour but only 200 K VnD ($8) for the whole day. The room is large, clean and cool with A / see. It's worth renting a room all day to check out the girls and have longer, unrushed sessions with them.[/QUOTE]
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Identical twins
People are probably not going to believe this, but whatever. I recently went to a Hot Toc out on the edge of the city and stumbled on a very pleasant surprise. I had been there once before and only saw two of the girls. This was during Tet, so I only saw one working and it was the same girl. She is a tiny Can Tho girl. 22 with a very firm thin body and small tits. Very pretty face and nice legs. Dark skin and some tattoos. I pulled her the time before and liked her.
She said the fee was 250 k because of Tet, which I didn't argue. We went upstairs and she said she had to grab something downstairs. I asked her how many girls worked there and she said 6, but only two right now. I had some extra money, so I asked to double it up. She said OK, but was worried that I wouldn't like it because the other girl was her older sister and they look identical. I said. Great. No problem.
They returned giggling and being friendly and happy. They were indeed identical, identical twins. The one only looked different because of dyed blonde hair and different tattoos. We all got naked and I broke normal rules I have about Hot Tocs and made out with them both while they took turns sucking my dick.
I have them each 100 k extra to fool around with each other. They were fine with it and the girl commented on how it was like a foreign porno. I rubbed them and fingered the blonde while they went at it. After that they joint sucked my dick and then laid under me while I blew my load on their tits and stomachs.
It was crazy. Never ever had something like that happen. I have to get out there again before they quit. The turnover at HT's are high, so who knows if it will last. Absolutely not sharing the location, sorry. I'm thinking of asking if they will date me as a group LOL.
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[QUOTE=MutantChicken;1840677]Likewise from what Wendella has indicated, getting the staff to provide room service is also not a very efficient way, as firstly the staff will want to make a commission and it won't be the measly 50 k someone suggested, think more getting a 300 k girl and selling it to you for 500 k, then you will be sitting there waiting for the delivery, one girl at a time, the longer it takes the better as you are being charged for the room. You will be going in totally blind, whereas with the websites you have at least a general idea. Even when you reject the room service you will be pressured to provide taxi money for the girls. And finally the hotel speaks very little English so the problems you have communicating whilst negotiating with the online girls will be there negotiating with the hotel staff.[/QUOTE]I second the above opinion. My input is that in Vietnam pimping or soliciting will carry much heavier penalty than prostitution itself. If the staff get caught, he / she will get more severe punishment than either the johns or the hookers. The johns maybe let go after paying a fine, some lecture and a walk of shame. The hookers a bit more, may be to a vocational training or rehab center. The pimp / papa / mama will get the most severe, I. E. , both money and prison. Soliciting or help setting you up with a girl would make the staff a pimp. That explains the reluctance by many staff (big risk / consequence for little reward, as MutantChicken said "won't be the measly 50 k" The hotel owner would also get the same classification if they allow such activities. Hotel owners, if they know, will have no choice but to fire the staff to claim innocent or to have deniability. The web site will help all sides. Even if the girl is managed by a pimp, he / she will remain nameless / invisible.
Hope that helps.
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[QUOTE=Onuevos;1841043]People are probably not going to believe this, but whatever. I recently went to a Hot Toc out on the edge of the city and stumbled on a very pleasant surprise. I had been there once before and only saw two of the girls. This was during Tet, so I only saw one working and it was the same girl. She is a tiny Can Tho girl. 22 with a very firm thin body and small tits. Very pretty face and nice legs. Dark skin and some tattoos. I pulled her the time before and liked her.
She said the fee was 250 k because of Tet, which I didn't argue. We went upstairs and she said she had to grab something downstairs. I asked her how many girls worked there and she said 6, but only two right now. I had some extra money, so I asked to double it up. She said OK, but was worried that I wouldn't like it because the other girl was her older sister and they look identical. I said. Great. No problem.
They returned giggling and being friendly and happy. They were indeed identical, identical twins. The one only looked different because of dyed blonde hair and different tattoos. We all got naked and I broke normal rules I have about Hot Tocs and made out with them both while they took turns sucking my dick.
I have them each 100 k extra to fool around with each other. They were fine with it and the girl commented on how it was like a foreign porno. I rubbed them and fingered the blonde while they went at it. After that they joint sucked my dick and then laid under me while I blew my load on their tits and stomachs.
It was crazy. Never ever had something like that happen. I have to get out there again before they quit. The turnover at HT's are high, so who knows if it will last. Absolutely not sharing the location, sorry. I'm thinking of asking if they will date me as a group LOL.[/QUOTE]I can fully understand your reluctance to share, but can you give us hints, like which district or at least which part of the city North, south, east or west? Ahhaha, but if you willing to trade, I have the location of a hot toc with 4 barely legal girls 18-21's, all slim and cute, they will take off all their clothes, they willing to do 3 some and more somes, I have had offered to take all the girls at once if I wanted, they will do BBBJ CIM, and I had one girl who was willing to fuck as well (on the sly) all for the low cost of 160 k.
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[QUOTE=Onuevos;1841043]People are probably not going to believe this, but whatever. I recently went to a Hot Toc out on the edge of the city and stumbled on a very pleasant surprise. I had been there once before and only saw two of the girls. This was during Tet, so I only saw one working and it was the same girl. She is a tiny Can Tho girl. 22 with a very firm thin body and small tits. Very pretty face and nice legs. Dark skin and some tattoos. I pulled her the time before and liked her.
She said the fee was 250 k because of Tet, which I didn't argue. We went upstairs and she said she had to grab something downstairs. I asked her how many girls worked there and she said 6, but only two right now. I had some extra money, so I asked to double it up. She said OK, but was worried that I wouldn't like it because the other girl was her older sister and they look identical. I said. Great. No problem.
.[/QUOTE]I am trying to believe you. Your post count is only 8, which doesn't help (I seriously wonder how many identical twins are [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord128][CodeWord128][/url] while bringing a stranger as #3? Not many, so if true your're a lucky SOB.
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Vague location
[QUOTE=MutantChicken;1841292]I can fully understand your reluctance to share, but can you give us hints, like which district or at least which part of the city North, south, east or west? Ahhaha, but if you willing to trade, I have the location of a hot toc with 4 barely legal girls 18-21's, all slim and cute, they will take off all their clothes, they willing to do 3 some and more somes, I have had offered to take all the girls at once if I wanted, they will do BBBJ CIM, and I had one girl who was willing to fuck as well (on the sly) all for the low cost of 160 k.[/QUOTE]It is within 15 minutes of District 7. Many places there, so difficult to guess which one!
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[QUOTE=Onuevos;1841390]It is within 15 minutes of District 7. Many places there, so difficult to guess which one![/QUOTE]I assume you mean it is 15 minutes as you head out away from HCMC, right?
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[QUOTE=Onuevos;1841390]It is within 15 minutes of District 7. Many places there, so difficult to guess which one![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Wendella;1841450]I assume you mean it is 15 minutes as you head out away from HCMC, right?[/QUOTE]I know of two possible areas.
A. to get here you need to cross a big bridge from D7, there are many hot toc clustered together over a 1 km stretch and you can get BBBJ here for 150-200 k and even a fuck for 500 k.
Be. A straight run from D7 not so many hot toc but they spread thinly over 3-4 km, I recall it was 200 k for a BBBJ.
Care to comment on which one?
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Full service at A25 hotel 22
A25 has 5 or 6 locations near the back packers district, within 1 to 2 blocks. They all rent rooms by the hours, 150 K to 220 K per hour for couples to fuck.
I went to this location to meet an internet girl about 8 PM: A25 hotel 22 Nguyễn cư Trinh, Phạm Ngũ Lão, Hồ Chí Minh, Vietnam.
There were 3 girls sitting in the small lobby, waiting for someone. They were all nice, slim, good-looking with nice make ups, tasteful clothes, perhaps in late 20's. One of them spoke some English, was asking me what I wanted. She also gave me infos on a few internet girls who worked at that location. They were obviously hookers waiting for guys. Their rates are between 500 K to 1.5 M VnD, depending on how wealthy you look, and how well you negotiate. The 2 young guys at the reception were listening in on the conversation but they did not care.
Instead of going out of the way for BJs at HTGDs, perhaps you guys should come to these A25 hotels, wait for the girls to show up and make your deals for full services.
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New talent at Benny's
Three newbies there tonight I hadn't seen before. All are south of 25, darker complexioned, small chests. Also one 30-something who's been there quite a while now. Decent sized rack. I was set to try my luck somewhere else, but thankfully my fave is back. She had returned home for an extended Tet. She's been giving as close to GFE as I suppose you can get in a blow-and-go, maybe because I've been tipping her pretty well. She's getting really close to fully deep throat me now, and her skills just keep getting better and better. Tonight she even rimmed me, unasked. Still, will probably scope out NPK more and a cluster of shops I discovered in the .5. The street name escapes me at the moment, but will post it next time.
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[QUOTE=Onuevos;1841390]It is within 15 minutes of District 7. Many places there, so difficult to guess which one![/QUOTE]I found the identical twins.
It took a bit of effort but nothing that was too hard for myself, everything was as he stated except I wouldn't exactly agree with his description, regarding the girls. She / they are small and slim, not really that firm bodied like a dancer or a athlete, no ass. Face is not pretty very ordinary prob a 5-5. 5, (ha / han that Wendella knows would be considered more attractive even tho I rejected her), small eyes and flat nose. They are very hard working and keen to please, one sucking me the other licking my nipples and body, the one with black hair was directing the blonde haired girl telling her where to lick and what to do, when to swap over, I was just a passive victim, if they were prettier ID consider eating their pussy or kissing them but they too plain, the blonde one was on her period so I could touch everywhere except her pussy, the black haired had a wet hairy tight pussy, I started with the blonde on giving a BJ, but ended up with the dark hair sucking my balls and the blonde one sucking my dick then the black haired one sucked my dick whilst the blond one licking my groin until I came, CIM wasn't offered and I didn't ask, I only take CIM when its "freely" given IE no extra charge and without me asking.
Over all its a good experience only because they were twins, but not that great considering the looks, price wasn't bad 400 k in total for both girls.
And just to confirm to onuevos that I did inf act meet the twins, the black haired one is named Tuyet, the blonde (brown) haired one is named Suong, the shop is a name with two words, the second word starts with K. The owner is a fatter lady late 20's, there is also a guy working there as security / bike watcher. And there is a older girl IE mid 20's with a better body, IE bigger tits more hourglass figure. You go into the room and there is a grey staircase on your left leading to the BBBJ rooms.
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Thanks for making the effort
[QUOTE=Onuevos;1841043]People are probably not going to believe this, but whatever. I have to get out there again before they quit. The turnover at HT's are high, so who knows if it will last. Absolutely not sharing the location, sorry. I'm thinking of asking if they will date me as a group LOL.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=WanderLuster;1841376]I am trying to believe you. Your post count is only 8, which doesn't help (I seriously wonder how many identical twins are $$$$$ while bringing a stranger as #3? Not many, so if true your're a lucky SOB.[/QUOTE]Onuevos,
Firstly I'd like to thank you for informing us that such twins are available, even tho I know you have no intention of sharing, nevertheless it was enough that you had bothered to go out there and explore and find new contacts and resources, rather act like the majority of the guys found here, who want to leech off the work of people like yourself and claim that this place is about sharing, but when looking at their own post history, its either regurgitation of places already reported 100 times eg I went to Benny, npk blah blah, but they have the audacity to want new fresh intel. So regardless if you intend to share or not, I appreciate you telling us that such places exist and then its up to us to find them. So please don't feel disheartened by naysayers, who tell you they don't believe you, these are the same guys who think paying 100 bucks for some 40 yr old in apo is a good deal, and that some bar girl really lubes them. The fact you have the ability and the courage to go find new places, you are already standing on the shoulders of these lesser men. So don't feel that your reporting is unappreciated even if you don't have a intention of sharing and you want to keep your finds secret. Please continue enticing us with your finds. Maybe you should make more commentary type posts so you can obtain senior status or put out for a membership so you can get PM ability, I have lots of secret places filled with young girls willing to do all manner of stuff for 5-10 dollar, and ID be willing to exchange like for like intel. As to the guys who are naysayers, let them continue paying 2-3 x times the price for similar girls that you find yourself. Finally in regards to the comment that how many identical there, well these girls don't think they are as they don't have sex, they just massage (BBBJ). So its the same question as how many twins are nurses or teacher hahah. Go figure their rationale. Finally trust me, these girls aren't my type, so I won't be stealing them from you, neither will I be sharing with all the leeches and freeloaders out there so you secret is safe with me.
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[QUOTE=MutantChicken;1841292]I can fully understand your reluctance to share, but can you give us hints, like which district or at least which part of the city North, south, east or west? Ahhaha, but if you willing to trade, I have the location of a hot toc with 4 barely legal girls 18-21's, all slim and cute, they will take off all their clothes, they willing to do 3 some and more somes, I have had offered to take all the girls at once if I wanted, they will do BBBJ CIM, and I had one girl who was willing to fuck as well (on the sly) all for the low cost of 160 k.[/QUOTE]I can fully understand your reluctance to share, but can you give us hints, like which district or at least which part of the city North, south, east or west? ;.).
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[QUOTE=Wendella;1842119]I can fully understand your reluctance to share, but can you give us hints, like which district or at least which part of the city North, south, east or west? ;.).[/QUOTE]They are within 1 HR from district 1.
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Cafe om quality
Some girls found at cafe om, 120-150 BBBJ.
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Did anyone else see the latest post by MC where he posted half a dozen random pictures of girls claiming they worked at a cafe om, but looked more like they were copied from facebook or some social networking site? It appears to have been deleted by him or the admin, or I can't locate it anymore.
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[QUOTE=AmericanThief;1843244]Did anyone else see the latest post by MC where he posted half a dozen random pictures of girls claiming they worked at a cafe om, but looked more like they were copied from facebook or some social networking site?[/QUOTE]The post is visible to me right now. I wouldn't think it's unlikely that he actually met the girls, and took the pictures from their social networking accounts.
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[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker;1840836]Error again.
Hotel Cathy charges 400 K Vnd overnight.
The 200 K VnD overnight deals are at hotel Dung Hanh and Cali, about half mile away, which actually have nicer rooms and in a better location, next to the sexy HTGDs on Su Van Hanh.[/QUOTE]Is it possible to take a picture of the room at hotel Cathy next time if you visit again?
Thanks
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Hotels in district 10
Hotels in the 10 like Kathy, Hoang Ha, Dung Hanh, Cali ect. Rooms are about 20 x 20 ft or 7 x 7 meters, nice, clean, quiet, comfortable, each has 2 queen beds with firm mattresses and clean, fresh sheets, like you see in these pics. The pic with the flower on Linh Shisa's face was taken from her listing somewhere, not mine.
Most hotels in this area charge 50 K the for St and 200 K the for all day, except those on LE Hong Phong, like Kathy and Hoang Ha, which charge 400 K all day. They have elevators so you can go up 6, 7 floors easily.
There are restaurants and street foods nearby, but they all close by 10 PM. You can hang out at the many huge karaoke joints on Su Van Hanh, or go to the Hottocs nearby. As far as I know the only Hottoc that gives you full service is on Su Van Hanh, near hotel Cali.
You can rent a room here all day for 200 K the and text the hotel's name and address to the girls. They will recognize the sexy hotels and have no problems coming over.
[QUOTE=SadBoy1;1843491]Is it possible to take a picture of the room at hotel Cathy next time if you visit again?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=SadBoy1;1843491]Is it possible to take a picture of the room at hotel Cathy next time if you visit again? [/QUOTE]You can see some pictures on Agoda, but wouldn't be surprised if the rooms look worse in reality.
For some obscure reason this hotel seems to never have rooms available on Agoda.
[URL]http://www.agoda.com/khathy-hotel/hotel/ho-chi-minh-city-vn.html[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Sketchy;1843246]The post is visible to me right now. I wouldn't think it's unlikely that he actually met the girls, and took the pictures from their social networking accounts.[/QUOTE]While I have never seen any of these specific girls, I can say that I've seen ones who are this cute. The way it is in those cafes, you might see a bunch of cafes located close together and maybe or maybe not there's one or 2 cute ones in one of them. Or maybe in 2 of them. The other places will have girls who are less attractive. So if you think you will go to a cafe om and see a lineup where they are all as cute as MC's photos, then No, you won't. Very unlikely. But I was in one place recently where there were 3 girls who were that cute, so it does happen.
The only way to do it is to try them out, you can't really see who's there until you go in and sit down and hang out a while there. The girls could be in back somewhere, maybe with another customer, or taking a shower, or whatever. The place with the 3 girls, I drove past that place plenty of times over a couple weeks and never did try it because I could never spot any cute girls inside. Finally I did stop and go inside and was very pleasantly surprised to see what was on offer, when they emerged from behind the curtain in the back. Not all at once, but one by one over about 15 minutes.
If you go in, you can just sit and order a coke, it's like 20 k. Price for the BJ is like MC said. Though last week I was at another one on the outskirts where they charged 200 up front. I protested, was rejected, and then I gave in. It was fine, same quality as other places.
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[QUOTE=AmericanThief;1843244]Did anyone else see the latest post by MC where he posted half a dozen random pictures of girls claiming they worked at a cafe om, but looked more like they were copied from facebook or some social networking site? It appears to have been deleted by him or the admin, or I can't locate it anymore.[/QUOTE]His post is still there, I'm not sure why you can't see it. Did you block him in your control panel?
Screwy things happen sometimes on this forum. Bugs. Like, I'm unable to view my own posts here, and that means I can't edit them if I post something up that I later regret wrting. ;.) It's as if I blocked myself.
There's an idea: log out first and then come back to this thread, you should be able to see it then. Actually I'm able to view my own posts if I log out and come back to the same page.
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[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker;1843550]... As far as I know the only Hottoc that gives you full service is on Su Van Hanh, near hotel Cali...[/QUOTE]There are 2 more around the corner. Just walk 3 minutes to LE Hong Phong. There are two within 50 m of each other. It will be 1. 3 m vnd.
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[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker;1843550]Hotels in the 10 like Kathy, Hoang Ha, Dung Hanh, Cali ect. Rooms are about 20 x 20 ft or 7 x 7 meters, nice, clean, quiet, comfortable, each has 2 queen beds with firm mattresses and clean, fresh sheets, like you see in these pics. The pic with the flower on Linh Shisa's face was taken from her listing somewhere, not mine.
Most hotels in this area charge 50 K the for St and 200 K the for all day, except those on LE Hong Phong, like Kathy and Hoang Ha, which charge 400 K all day. They have elevators so you can go up 6, 7 floors easily.
There are restaurants and street foods nearby, but they all close by 10 PM. You can hang out at the many huge karaoke joints on Su Van Hanh, or go to the Hottocs nearby. As far as I know the only Hottoc that gives you full service is on Su Van Hanh, near hotel Cali.
You can rent a room here all day for 200 K the and text the hotel's name and address to the girls. They will recognize the sexy hotels and have no problems coming over.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the detail info you written. It very helpful it since have to do walk in to the hotel as the listing on agoda cannot book them. I update my findings once I there. Thanks again for the help.
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Call the hotels to book
Agoda steals 25% of the rents from the hotel, so the popular hotels would naturally not list vacancy until the last minutes if they are desperate. I called these hotels direct by noon and got rooms every time. You can call to book, don't have to walk in.
That pale little girl at hotel Kathy's reception did say the all-night rooms were going fast. Quite a few foreigners have the hard ONS for this cute little girl. She lingers with me every time we talked. So I think I can date her after work.
She blocked one of the bros from renting a room to fuck Linh Shisa without leaving his passport. That's the rule for most ST hotels. They are deadly afraid that foreigners may be terrorists and cause huge problems for them with the Security Police, so they want to hold the passports and everyone's IDs. Make a copy of your passport in case it get lost and leave only your passport card or Global Entry card with them.
But the hotel personnel would be in even much bigger trouble with the police if foreigners claim they steal passports. You just have to trust these hotel people since I have left my passport cards many times without problems.
[QUOTE=SadBoy1;1844319]Thanks for the detail info you written. It very helpful it since have to do walk in to the hotel as the listing on agoda cannot book them. I update my findings once I there. Thanks again for the help.[/QUOTE]
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The hottocs on LE Hong Phong near the huge pagoda
I know the 2 hottocs you mentioned, roughly across from the huge pagoda, but the girls are old and chunky. I would never let these crude, ugly girls touch my dick hehe.
You ever see any bald-headed monk from the pagoda cross the street in a hurry to get to the barber shops? They probably has regular urge and lots of money for the girls to wax and shine both heads.
[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1843806]There are 2 more around the corner. Just walk 3 minutes to LE Hong Phong. There are two within 50 m of each other. It will be 1. 3 m vnd.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker;1844436]I know the 2 hottocs you mentioned, roughly across from the huge pagoda, but the girls are old and chunky. I would never let these crude, ugly girls touch my dick hehe.
You ever see any bald-headed monk from the pagoda cross the street in a hurry to get to the barber shops? They probably has regular urge and lots of money for the girls to wax and shine both heads.[/QUOTE]I think you are looking in the wrong place. The places I am talking about are very close together. Did not see a pagoda. AND when I went in both places, there were only young looking ladies. There was about 10 - 12 ladies in each place all looked between the ages of 20 - 30.
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Hoping to avoid an argument breaking out over this. No one is being specific enough that we can know for sure which places these are. On LeHongPhong street other side of 3/2 street there's 2 we'll known HT's there in the 800's. Indeed there's a huge pagoda across the street from then with its entrance on 3/2. One of these two HT's usually has a good selection of ones in their 20's, the other a bit less so (just based on what I've seen). One's name begins with a see (one word) and the other HY.
If one of you is certain there's no pagoda, you must be talking about 2 different HT's.
As for quality, well, it's easy to go at the wrong time and see a worse lineup, like if the good ones are busy or having lunch or whatever.
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The hTGDs on block 800 LE Hong Phong
The 2 HTGDs on LHP are across the street from the side entrance of the huge pagoda.
I was there during daytime so the selection may be not too good. The girls at these HTGDs sit around all day in front of the glass door without customers.
BTW in Vietnam girls in their 30's are considered old. The harsh sun weathers their skin, making them look more like women in the 50's in temperate climate.
[QUOTE=Wendella;1844737]Hoping to avoid an argument breaking out over this. No one is being specific enough that we can know for sure which places these are. On LeHongPhong street other side of 3/2 street there's 2 we'll known HT's there in the 800's. Indeed there's a huge pagoda across the street from then with its entrance on 3/2. One of these two HT's usually has a good selection of ones in their 20's, the other a bit less so (just based on what I've seen). One's name begins with a see (one word) and the other HY.
If one of you is certain there's no pagoda, you must be talking about 2 different HT's.
As for quality, well, it's easy to go at the wrong time and see a worse lineup, like if the good ones are busy or having lunch or whatever.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker;1844773]The 2 HTGDs on LHP are across the street from the side entrance of the huge pagoda.
I was there during daytime so the selection may be not too good. The girls at these HTGDs sit around all day in front of the glass door without customers.
BTW in Vietnam girls in their 30's are considered old. The harsh sun weathers their skin, making them look more like women in the 50's in temperate climate.[/QUOTE]Yes iike yourself, I'm out on ones in their 30's.
I've driven past and seen HY packed with girls at times, and nearly empty at others. Why? No idea. If you saw some ones 30 and up there, I can't dispute that because I haven't been over there in a long time (and when I was there, it wasn't with you), but when I have looked they seemed to be all in their 20's, but not ones who looked 18-22, most seemed to be 23-27 or so. I have never tried this place but did go in once to have a look. At that price, I did not see something that seemed like a must. But overall it did look like one of the best selections out there, that I've seen at least. On the same street not far is Minh Tam massage. Have you tried there? I wonder how those compare to HY. MT doesn't offer FS or even BJ though.
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Luke, I forgot to mention, you should keep checking that place out to see how it is when all the good girls are working. But again, the price is high. Better service though, from what I hear.
Pipe, next time you go to your HT's on LHP, check if it's where we are talking about, in the 800's on LHP. If yes, look down toward 3/2 and you will definitely see the pagoda we are talking about. It's famous here.
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[QUOTE=Wendella;1844983]Yes iike yourself, I'm out on ones in their 30's.
I've driven past and seen HY packed with girls at times, and nearly empty at others. Why? No idea. If you saw some ones 30 and up there, I can't dispute that because I haven't been over there in a long time (and when I was there, it wasn't with you), but when I have looked they seemed to be all in their 20's, but not ones who looked 18-22, most seemed to be 23-27 or so. I have never tried this place but did go in once to have a look. At that price, I did not see something that seemed like a must. But overall it did look like one of the best selections out there, that I've seen at least. On the same street not far is Minh Tam massage. Have you tried there? I wonder how those compare to HY. MT doesn't offer FS or even BJ though.[/QUOTE]Just for clarity, are the HT's you're talking about in this area of the be-and-G variety, or is it FS massage? I was strolling SVH two weeks ago and happened across an HT on the upper reaches, near LHP right before the university, on the right hand side of the road going north. I saw 4 girls in there, they were in their mid-20's. But only one was what I would normally go for. I didn't sample because I wanted to find better options. May be hitting there later this week however.
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[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker;1844773]The 2 HTGDs on LHP are across the street from the side entrance of the huge pagoda.
I was there during daytime so the selection may be not too good. The girls at these HTGDs sit around all day in front of the glass door without customers.
BTW in Vietnam girls in their 30's are considered old. The harsh sun weathers their skin, making them look more like women in the 50's in temperate climate.[/QUOTE]That's the right location. I was there at night, maybe around 7 or 8 pm. I didn't bother looking across the street because it was dark and didn't see any lights or signs or anything like that. Besides I was specifically looking for a place with ladies. So I stayed on the the one side of the street. The ladies I did see in both places indeed looked younger to me. Definitely not old. To me, they looked to be between 20 to 30 (not in their 30's already). But of course so of them may age well.
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The chubbies in HTGDs
I went to a few HTGDs on Su Van Hanh and LE Hong Phong. Girls were mostly chubby and ugly. They all use skin lightener cream on their skin to look lighter but very unnatural.
The cream leaches the dark pigment from their skin, but they will cause skin cancer in the long run. Poor girls are not doing much business with the 1. 3 M fare. The assholes who own the joints probably take 1 M and give 300 K to the girls. They would have a hard time earning enough to eat.
I hate dealing with girls who are managed. I don't like places who only offer HJ or BJ in the barber chairs or in curtained cubicle. I prefer to have sex on full beds.
I prefer the independent girls who work for themselves and are free. They are more like real people and have more fun.
[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1845062]That's the right location. I was there at night, maybe around 7 or 8 pm. I didn't bother looking across the street because it was dark and didn't see any lights or signs or anything like that. Besides I was specifically looking for a place with ladies. So I stayed on the the one side of the street. The ladies I did see in both places indeed looked younger to me. Definitely not old. To me, they looked to be between 20 to 30 (not in their 30's already). But of course so of them may age well.[/QUOTE]
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The HTGDs
I never liked the formats of HTGDs, having sex in curtained off cubicles with people around fucking, sucking. Besides their girls are chubbies, not good-looking and prices are too high. I like to deal with independent girls who work for themselves and act like real people.
For the bros unfamiliar, these HTGDs are in district 10 which is 5 to 10 miles from district 1. Most will offer only hand jobs or blow jobs, except 1 or 2 that will do full service. It's easier to go to the A25 hotel on Nguyen see you Trinh about half mile from the back packer area. There are usually a few girls hanging out in the small lobby waiting for tricks.
WECHAT girls are not reliable. They all use fake pics and keep chaning them. I wanted to do video chat or call and talk, but they would not do it. So I suspect the chat is done by pimps who send fake girls.
[QUOTE=Wendella;1844986]Luke, I forgot to mention, you should keep checking that place out to see how it is when all the good girls are working. But again, the price is high. Better service though, from what I hear.
Pipe, next time you go to your HT's on LHP, check if it's where we are talking about, in the 800's on LHP. If yes, look down toward 3/2 and you will definitely see the pagoda we are talking about. It's famous here.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker;1845190]I never liked the formats of HTGDs, having sex in curtained off cubicles with people around fucking, sucking. Besides their girls are chubbies, not good-looking and prices are too high. I like to deal with independent girls who work for themselves and act like real people.
For the bros unfamiliar, these HTGDs are in district 10 which is 5 to 10 miles from district 1. Most will offer only hand jobs or blow jobs, except 1 or 2 that will do full service. It's easier to go to the A25 hotel on Nguyen see you Trinh about half mile from the back packer area. There are usually a few girls hanging out in the small lobby waiting for tricks.
WECHAT girls are not reliable. They all use fake pics and keep chaning them. I wanted to do video chat or call and talk, but they would not do it. So I suspect the chat is done by pimps who send fake girls.[/QUOTE]In this area, I frequent CN and HY on LHP (and TOP on SVH but it since moved. I have not had a chance to look for new address. Appreciate any info since I think the talents there were rather high quality). I always tell the guy / gal in charge that I prefer young and slim. After a while they know my preference and typically show me the right selection. I usually take my time and probe around to choose the right one (my language advantage). I have not been disappointed thus far. The girls working there usually wake up at noon time. I usually go around 4 pm-5 pm. Just enough time for the girls to have had their meal, done makeup, and becomes alive, ready for customers. Yet, it's still early enough that the male population are still busy somewhere else. More girls, less customer, my timing advantage.
Luke is right that the girl get only between 1/3 to 1/4 of the total price. They will be lucky if they get 500 k out of the total 1. 2 Mil VND (about $54 USD) we usually pay for FS at these places. About 1/3 goes to the house and the other third goes to papa / mama. For newer girls, maybe 1/2 to the house, 1/4 to papa, and the poor girl get her measly 1/4.
If I like the girl enough I tip her anywhere from 100 k to 300 k for a chance of set up overnight or long weekend (my score here is slightly better than 50/50). I once get a girl to spend a weekend with me for 10 Mil. She told me that the most relax 10 Mil she ever made (I. E. , she will need to see 20-30 customers to make that much). For ST setup at nearby hotel (better room, bath, and bed) my score is closer to 80%.
Hope that can be useful for some fellow mongers.
Cheers,
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Hottocs near Hotel Cali on SVH in D10
[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker;1843550]As far as I know the only Hottoc that gives you full service is on Su Van Hanh, near hotel Cali.[/QUOTE]Hi there. The hoctocs near Hotel Cali on SVH in District 10 from its outside looks like nothing but those near the Ben Thanh Market in District 1. I wonder if you have any more detailed reason why you think they give FS.
I happened to pass in front of the hottocs and wondered.
Waiting for your reply.
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Hottocs on Su Van Hanh
I looked in a couple hottocs in that area but did not find any with my preference in looks. They have mostly chubby girls with pale white skin who don't look too pretty. I am fairly picky in bed mates. If I don't find slim, pretty, healthy-looking girls, I just would not do it. Besides, I don't want to have sex in cramped places or on those damn barbers' chairs. So I just skipped and went to the hotels to fuck internet girls.
Some bros here said the 2 hottocs near Cali hotel on Su Van Hanh, and the 2 on LE Hong Phong across from the pagoda, do offer full service. Search back in this thread and ask them for details.
[QUOTE=Wr9999;1846016]Hi there. The hoctocs near Hotel Cali on SVH in District 10 from its outside looks like nothing but those near the Ben Thanh Market in District 1. I wonder if you have any more detailed reason why you think they give FS.
I happened to pass in front of the hottocs and wondered.
Waiting for your reply.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker;1846151]I looked in a couple hottocs in that area but did not find any with my preference in looks. They have mostly chubby girls with pale white skin who don't look too pretty. I am fairly picky in bed mates. If I don't find slim, pretty, healthy-looking girls, I just would not do it. Besides, I don't want to have sex in cramped places or on those damn barbers' chairs. So I just skipped and went to the hotels to fuck internet girls.
Some bros here said the 2 hottocs near Cali hotel on Su Van Hanh, and the 2 on LE Hong Phong across from the pagoda, do offer full service. Search back in this thread and ask them for details.[/QUOTE]I was offered FS at the one called Chino on SVH, so unless their policy has changed, that's ONE for sure. Don't know for sure about the others. At those I was told you can get massage (by guys out front) and that's it. But that could be true or it could be them showing more discretion than Chino.
I think your descriptions tend to be harsh of these (especially for HY on LHP), but my take is that HY seems to have some hot ones, the other places have attractive-enough ones but nothing special. I"m fine with white skin, for example, and they don't look FAT to me but also not the type you like (slim). I've surely seen tall slim ones at HY.
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What?
[QUOTE=MutantChicken;1842074]I found the identical twins.
It took a bit of effort but nothing that was too hard for myself, everything was as he stated except I wouldn't exactly agree with his description, regarding the girls. She / they are small and slim, not really that firm bodied like a dancer or a athlete, no ass. Face is not pretty very ordinary prob a 5-5. 5, (ha / han that Wendella knows would be considered more attractive even tho I rejected her), small eyes and flat nose. They are very hard working and keen to please, one sucking me the other licking my nipples and body, the one with black hair was directing the blonde haired girl telling her where to lick and what to do, when to swap over, I was just a passive victim, if they were prettier ID consider eating their pussy or kissing them but they too plain, the blonde one was on her period so I could touch everywhere except her pussy, the black haired had a wet hairy tight pussy, I started with the blonde on giving a BJ, but ended up with the dark hair sucking my balls and the blonde one sucking my dick then the black haired one sucked my dick whilst the blond one licking my groin until I came, CIM wasn't offered and I didn't ask, I only take CIM when its "freely" given IE no extra charge and without me asking.
Over all its a good experience only because they were twins, but not that great considering the looks, price wasn't bad 400 k in total for both girls.
And just to confirm to onuevos that I did inf act meet the twins, the black haired one is named Tuyet, the blonde (brown) haired one is named Suong, the shop is a name with two words, the second word starts with K. The owner is a fatter lady late 20's, there is also a guy working there as security / bike watcher. And there is a older girl IE mid 20's with a better body, IE bigger tits more hourglass figure. You go into the room and there is a gray staircase on your left leading to the BBBJ rooms.[/QUOTE]Not strange to think they would use different names, but those are wrong. There is no security ever in the three times I've been. No managers. All the girls are rail thin. What were the initials of the street? I would be blown away if you found a different pair.
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[QUOTE=Onuevos;1847041]Not strange to think they would use different names, but those are wrong. There is no security ever in the three times I've been. No managers. All the girls are rail thin. What were the initials of the street? I would be blown away if you found a different pair.[/QUOTE]Does the shop have a two-word name with the second name starting with K?
Which district is this place? I'm not interested in trying to locate it, but am curious to know if MC did actually find the place. All the clues that you dismissed are the types that can change from visit to visit. What about the stairs, etc. ?
It seems very unlikely there's another twins massage place.
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Yep
[QUOTE=Wendella;1847868]Does the shop have a two-word name with the second name starting with K?
Which district is this place? I'm not interested in trying to locate it, but am curious to know if MC did actually find the place. All the clues that you dismissed are the types that can change from visit to visit. What about the stairs, etc. ?
It seems very unlikely there's another twins massage place.[/QUOTE]I think he did find it, no idea how. I went back and the second name is a K. The staircase is on the left. Nothing else matched up though. The twins are long gone though. I got in 3 times, so be it. Full of ugly old hags now. I walked out. Prices are going up everywhere and quality is way down.
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[QUOTE=Onuevos;1853196]I think he did find it, no idea how. I went back and the second name is a K. The staircase is on the left. Nothing else matched up though. The twins are long gone though. I got in 3 times, so be it. Full of ugly old hags now. I walked out. Prices are going up everywhere and quality is way down.[/QUOTE]OK. I have to ask this question.
What is the BIG secret that members cannot post the names and locations of these places so that veterans as well as newbies can find them? As you know HCMC is a mess as far as streets, alleys, etc are, so let's quit this silliness. . I suspect that the authorities already know about this stuff (just like they know about the working girls in D1 and other areas).
Sheesh, what a waste of bandwidth, share information, that is the purpose of this board.
GG.
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BJ Sexpodition
Hi all,
I just wanted to share my adventure with you all. I decided to visit some relatives in Ho Chi Minh City back in December. Before I went, I did some research and read many forums on this site. I came across one of Mutant Chicken's ads. So I decided to contact him. We set up a date to meet up and on that day, he took me out to one of the most adventurous places filled with fantastic BBBJ from the most gorgeous and petite little Vietnamese girls I have ever came across.
The day started off with MC taking me to a very local area about an hour away from the city on his bike. Our first stop was at this little shop. I chose this one girl with big tits with a very cute face, but both the owner and MC said to choose two, I asked how much was he charging, the owner said 350 K, so why the hell not, 3 some BBBJ for 350 K. Great deal. The only problem was she that they didn't allow CIM. But can't complain for what I paid for.
After my first pop, We headed over to another shop about 10 minutes away from the first shop. There was only one girl there, she was very cute and adorable. I asked for CIM and she said no problem she charged me 150 K. I definitely could not complain about that.
After my second pop, we headed out for a quick bite, then after, it was on to the infamous Fire and Ice BBBJ. This was probably one of he most exhilarating BBBJs I have ever had. The girl that MC chose for me was the cutest of them all. Huge tits, very cute face with a smoking body. She started off with a mediocre massage. Then she asked me to flip over. She put some ice in her mouth and licked me up and down. Once she got me hard, she spat out the ice and replaced it with some hot tea. I swear, I didn't last more then 5 minutes when she was blowing me. Total for that was 300 K.
After, we went for a massage. It was probably one of the best massages I have ever had. It included a facial and a happy ending HJ. That was 250 K.
The very last thing that we did was the cafe om. The place was so dark, but as soon as I had the girl and my lap, somehow being able to see didn't really matter all that much any more. The girl that I had sitting on my lap had huge fantastic tits with very small nipples, she also had a hairy pussy. My hands were all over her and I was able to fit in a finger or two in her.
MC, thank you for a fantastic adventure. I hope that whoever is reads this and decides to give MC a call, please do post your adventures as well.
Tmackly
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[QUOTE=Tmackly;1853291]Hi all,
I just wanted to share my adventure with you all. I decided to visit some relatives in Ho Chi Minh City back in December. Before I went, I did some research and read many forums on this site. I came across one of Mutant Chicken's ads. So I decided to contact him. We set up a date to meet up and on that day, he took me out to one of the most adventurous places filled with fantastic BBBJ from the most gorgeous and petite little Vietnamese girls I have ever came across.
The day started off with MC taking me to a very local area about an hour away from the city on his bike. Our first stop was at this little shop. I chose this one girl with big tits with a very cute face, but both the owner and MC said to choose two, I asked how much was he charging, the owner said 350 K, so why the hell not, 3 some BBBJ for 350 K. Great deal. The only problem was she that they didn't allow CIM. But can't complain for what I paid for.
After my first pop, We headed over to another shop about 10 minutes away from the first shop. There was only one girl there, she was very cute and adorable. I asked for CIM and she said no problem she charged me 150 K. I definitely could not complain about that.
After my second pop, we headed out for a quick bite, then after, it was on to the infamous Fire and Ice BBBJ. This was probably one of he most exhilarating BBBJs I have ever had. The girl that MC chose for me was the cutest of them all. Huge tits, very cute face with a smoking body. She started off with a mediocre massage. Then she asked me to flip over. She put some ice in her mouth and licked me up and down. Once she got me hard, she spat out the ice and replaced it with some hot tea. I swear, I didn't last more then 5 minutes when she was blowing me. Total for that was 300 K.
After, we went for a massage. It was probably one of the best massages I have ever had. It included a facial and a happy ending HJ. That was 250 K.
The very last thing that we did was the cafe om. The place was so dark, but as soon as I had the girl and my lap, somehow being able to see didn't really matter all that much any more. The girl that I had sitting on my lap had huge fantastic tits with very small nipples, she also had a hairy pussy. My hands were all over her and I was able to fit in a finger or two in her.
MC, thank you for a fantastic adventure. I hope that whoever is reads this and decides to give MC a call, please do post your adventures as well.
Tmackly[/QUOTE]Great report.
You must be one horny young dude as you are able to just Cum and go so many times without much of a break. You probably did more in one day than I do in a week at my current age.
Glad you had a good time. I'm thinking you must be planning to visit your relatives more often now. LOL.
I've read some of mutants reports in the past but didn't realize he provided service as a "tour" guide. I had trouble finding honest places when last I visited as they seem to rip you off if you don't speak the language. I may use his services when I visit again next year. I didn't see his ad so could you PM me the details as to how much he charge for his services and for how long. Thanks.
Hope to read more reports from you.
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[QUOTE=AsianLoverOz;1815836]Will be posting a few reviews of my recent Saigon experiences.
First review is of Nguyen Phi Khan Street. There are at least 10-15 Hot Toc places all along this street. That seem to start opening around 11 am, but you will get more options as the afternoon progresses.
Originally taken there at night by my Viet guide, but went back a couple of times. The pimps out the front will welcome you in and if you act ignorant like me, just go in and have a look. If you don't like the goods, just smile say thanks and walk out. Not speaking Viet is actually a plus in this case, as you won't understand when they curse at you for not staying.
In the end I only participated with shop #84. It's a standard price 400 K for BBBJ (and CIM in my case). Tried twice, both experiences were great. Friendly girls, friendly mama, nice big room and great service. The 2nd time I went there I took 2 girls up for a double BBBJ / CIM fantasy session. 800 K bargain (compared to what I paid in little Tokyo
Other shops along the street had some cuties too, but I can't recharge fast enough to try out so many shops.[/QUOTE]I've read back about 10 pages or so just to see what prices are being paid. And to my surprise prices are all over the map.
1) Why are some paying 120-150 and others posted paying 400 k for BJs in same locations.
2) once you know the price, what would be the best procedure to follow, should I just pay the proper amount upfront at the counter or do you pay after the deed is done to the girl or to the counter on way out?
3) Also, I thought the price was all inclusive, meaning shouldn't have to tip after, but notice some actually pay a tip to girl that almost equal the price of the BJ.
Enlighten me as to what is the actual price and what (if any) tips should be paid. Don't want to be a cheap Charlie but also don't want to be taken either.
Note: I don't speak Viet as I don't know if that is a major factor.
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[QUOTE=GenevaGuy;1853284]OK. I have to ask this question.
What is the BIG secret that members cannot post the names and locations of these places so that veterans as well as newbies can find them? As you know HCMC is a mess as far as streets, alleys, etc are, so let's quit this silliness. . I suspect that the authorities already know about this stuff (just like they know about the working girls in D1 and other areas).
Sheesh, what a waste of bandwidth, share information, that is the purpose of this board.
GG.[/QUOTE]Here in HCMC we have had shutdowns many times. Sometimes it happens when places become too high profile. So generally we tend to spread this info via PM, to keep the places from becoming overexposed.
The kind of sharing of info that you talk about works great in places like Thailand or Cambodia where there's not much threat to the venues. In this country we have to keep it more discreet though.
I've seen all my favorite places closed for good, time and time again. That's just how it is here.
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[QUOTE=Freezone;1853343]I've read back about 10 pages or so just to see what prices are being paid. And to my surprise prices are all over the map.
1) Why are some paying 120-150 and others posted paying 400 k for BJs in same locations.
2) once you know the price, what would be the best procedure to follow, should I just pay the proper amount upfront at the counter or do you pay after the deed is done to the girl or to the counter on way out?
3) Also, I thought the price was all inclusive, meaning shouldn't have to tip after, but notice some actually pay a tip to girl that almost equal the price of the BJ.
Enlighten me as to what is the actual price and what (if any) tips should be paid. Don't want to be a cheap Charlie but also don't want to be taken either.
Note: I don't speak Viet as I don't know if that is a major factor.[/QUOTE]Prices differ at different places. 120-150 sounds like BJ cafe om. 400 sounds like NPK. Not the same places. If you name which place you refer to, people here can say what correct protocol is. Generally tip not expected at these lower end spots.
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Twins
[QUOTE=Onuevos;1853196]I think he did find it, no idea how. I went back and the second name is a K. The staircase is on the left. Nothing else matched up though. The twins are long gone though. I got in 3 times, so be it. Full of ugly old hags now. I walked out. Prices are going up everywhere and quality is way down.[/QUOTE]Yeah the clues you gave actually did narrow down quite a bit the possible locations.
Since you don't have PM and post infrequently, let me cut to the chase: was this place on Nguyen Thi Dinh in District 2? It's all moot at this point since the twins are gone, but just curious to see if my own guess was correct.
I thought you got their phone numbers, no? So you didn't stay in touch with them?
You could have role-played a Cat in the Hat fantasy, with Thing 1 and Thing 2. ;.).
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[QUOTE=Freezone;1853314]Great report.
You must be one horny young dude as you are able to just Cum and go so many times without much of a break. You probably did more in one day than I do in a week at my current age.
Glad you had a good time. I'm thinking you must be planning to visit your relatives more often now. LOL.
I've read some of mutants reports in the past but didn't realize he provided service as a "tour" guide. I had trouble finding honest places when last I visited as they seem to rip you off if you don't speak the language. I may use his services when I visit again next year. I didn't see his ad so could you PM me the details as to how much he charge for his services and for how long. Thanks.
Hope to read more reports from you.[/QUOTE]Check the ads section of the forum or simply PM him.
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Sexy cafe's
Going to be visiting in early April HCM. I have heard that the city has numerous sexy cafés where hot women sit with you and you can have a FS with them. Does this happen on premises or do you take them back to your hotel. It seems like this would be more of a GFE. For example, do places like cafe om fit this description? Any info would be great thanks.
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[QUOTE=Freezone;1853343]I've read back about 10 pages or so just to see what prices are being paid. And to my surprise prices are all over the map.
1) Why are some paying 120-150 and others posted paying 400 k for BJs in same locations.
2) once you know the price, what would be the best procedure to follow, should I just pay the proper amount upfront at the counter or do you pay after the deed is done to the girl or to the counter on way out?
3) Also, I thought the price was all inclusive, meaning shouldn't have to tip after, but notice some actually pay a tip to girl that almost equal the price of the BJ.
Enlighten me as to what is the actual price and what (if any) tips should be paid. Don't want to be a cheap Charlie but also don't want to be taken either.
Note: I don't speak Viet as I don't know if that is a major factor.[/QUOTE]1. as mentions 120-150 is usually a cafe om, its more basic setting, so cost less and def not foreigner exposure, 400 k is another location usually with lost of foreigners overpaying, as I said the places guys here pay 400 k locals going to the very same place pay 300-350 k. What makes it even worse is foreigners are TIPPING in addition to overpaying.
2. What I do is I just pay the proper amount after doing the deed, but then I speak the language and I look like I know what's going on and I don't look out of place. You can give to the girl, but its better to pay at the counter.
3. This is a tricky question as things are not very clear unless you know what you doing. Eg Cafe om, you just pay the going rate between 100-150 k, hot toc, the more local places have a flat rate of 160-200 k, which you pay going out, most places have a system where you have a ticket that you pay to the shop of 120-150 k, and then you would tip the girl a minimum matching that ticket, so another 150 k, hence the total cost is 150+150. This is what locals pay in NPK, they would pass the girl 150-200 k then pay 150 k at the counter, but for all you non Viet speakers or those that look like they can be scammed they will either ask 500 k upfront, and depending on how gullible the guy is they will settle on 400 k. Massage works on a similar manner, you buy a ticket of 100-500 k depending on the type of room you want. Then you will tip the massage girl a similar amount as to the ticket you bought. After the deed you would tip the girl get changed then pay the counter on your way out. In all these circumstances you tip because she doesn't get a wage from the shop, the word is TIP but its actually a payments for their service, there is no need to further tip the girl. Its fairly complicated and hard to understand and its not a uniform system, so its often more easier to get a local to show you, then later you will be recognized as someone who knows the correct price and procedure thus you won't be ripped off.
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[QUOTE=JamesOcla;1853362]Going to be visiting in early April HCM. I have heard that the city has numerous sexy cafs where hot women sit with you and you can have a FS with them. Does this happen on premises or do you take them back to your hotel. It seems like this would be more of a GFE. For example, do places like cafe om fit this description? Any info would be great thanks.[/QUOTE]No such thing here, sorry. Some guy fantasizes about such stuff and posts on the board as if it actually exists. It doesn't. There's some bars that have hostesses who are for takeout, but the ones for foreigners in the Hai Ba Trung area are low quality these days. Or bars on Bui Vien and / or Do Quang Do.
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Not close
[QUOTE=Wendella;1853356]Yeah the clues you gave actually did narrow down quite a bit the possible locations.
Since you don't have PM and post infrequently, let me cut to the chase: was this place on Nguyen Thi Dinh in District 2? It's all moot at this point since the twins are gone, but just curious to see if my own guess was correct.
I thought you got their phone numbers, no? So you didn't stay in touch with them?
You could have role-played a Cat in the Hat fantasy, with Thing 1 and Thing 2. ;.).[/QUOTE]No, not even close to Q2. Still other places out there, so don't want to narrow it down a lot. It's amazing how shitty the quality is at these places and at expensive massage parlors, just garbage. The girls used to be incredible. Model level. Oh well, on to Zalo I guess.
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[QUOTE=Onuevos;1853196]I think he did find it, no idea how. I went back and the second name is a K. The staircase is on the left. Nothing else matched up though. The twins are long gone though. I got in 3 times, so be it. Full of ugly old hags now. I walked out. Prices are going up everywhere and quality is way down.[/QUOTE]When you know HCMC as well as I do, knowing all the vice areas a few vague bread crumbs is all I need, often a description of a girl is enough if she had distinguishing features like big tits and glasses etc.
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[QUOTE=Onuevos;1853426]No, not even close to Q2. Still other places out there, so don't want to narrow it down a lot. It's amazing how shitty the quality is at these places and at expensive massage parlors, just garbage. The girls used to be incredible. Model level. Oh well, on to Zalo I guess.[/QUOTE]OK I see, you don't want to narrow it down further in order to, uh, shield us from the garbage. ;.).
Proper congrats to MC for finding this one. That was quite impressive. Like a magic trick. Classic moment in ISG Vietnam history, I say.
Seriously, Onuevos, how did you lose them? I thought you got their phone number?
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[QUOTE=MutantChicken;1853367]1. as mentions 120-150 is usually a cafe om, its more basic setting, so cost less and def not foreigner exposure, 400 k is another location usually with lost of foreigners overpaying, as I said the places guys here pay 400 k locals going to the very same place pay 300-350 k. What makes it even worse is foreigners are TIPPING in addition to overpaying.
2. What I do is I just pay the proper amount after doing the deed, but then I speak the language and I look like I know what's going on and I don't look out of place. You can give to the girl, but its better to pay at the counter.
3. This is a tricky question as things are not very clear unless you know what you doing. Eg Cafe om, you just pay the going rate between 100-150 k, hot toc, the more local places have a flat rate of 160-200 k, which you pay going out, most places have a system where you have a ticket that you pay to the shop of 120-150 k, and then you would tip the girl a minimum matching that ticket, so another 150 k, hence the total cost is 150+150. This is what locals pay in NPK, they would pass the girl 150-200 k then pay 150 k at the counter, but for all you non Viet speakers or those that look like they can be scammed they will either ask 500 k upfront, and depending on how gullible the guy is they will settle on 400 k. Massage works on a similar manner, you buy a ticket of 100-500 k depending on the type of room you want. Then you will tip the massage girl a similar amount as to the ticket you bought. After the deed you would tip the girl get changed then pay the counter on your way out. In all these circumstances you tip because she doesn't get a wage from the shop, the word is TIP but its actually a payments for their service, there is no need to further tip the girl. Its fairly complicated and hard to understand and its not a uniform system, so its often more easier to get a local to show you, then later you will be recognized as someone who knows the correct price and procedure thus you won't be ripped off.[/QUOTE]Thanks you for the explanation as I now have a better understanding on how this works. Also like to thank everyone, like Wendela for contributions to the hobby.
Some history:
I've actually been to Vietnam before (twice) but this was over 6 -7 yrs ago. Didn't go back since as I had hard time finding places for a good "release" and not get scammed as I almost never got the proper prices, or when I got close to correct price but had to mostly decline as they were not to my standards, meaning they were either old or fat or ugly or all the above.
I did have a reasonable good time mainly as a tourist as the city had enough tour sights to keep my interest. I also rented a motorbike so half the fun was riding around (although it's not for the newbie riders as traffic was shit and I truly hated the traffic circles).
I will be back maybe end of this year to give it another try.
Also been to Hanoi and liked the city better with the various surroundings as a tourist but hated it as a monger as I couldn't find any actions at all to my liking or on my budget. Hired a taxi and asked for action places but only took me to 2 places (brothels) with FS but that had all fat and old fruglies. Remember even 6 yrs ago it was $35 but IMO, wasn't even worth paying $5 what they had on offer. No need really as one look at them and no way I could get my equipment to work.
Stayed at the backpacker area in both HCMC and Hanoi with many guesthouses that had small room with private BR renting for about $6 a night but finally gave up as they kept doing switch and bait on me. Moved to a budget hotel instead for about $15-20 a night. Funny thing was some of the backpacker rooms were actually nicer than the budget hotels but didn't like the scams there.
Again, may give Hanoi another chance if I could find reliable action.
But in the meantime, it's back to reliable Angeles and Pattaya to get my release as Indonesia is no more for me after shutting down Dollyworld in Surabaya and now Kalijodo in Jakarta.
Side note, I Had just recently started mongering in Jakarta as I loved the RLD at Kalijodo. Many young and cute girls for FS for only $11-15 US and no tips required. Real budget brothel places with basic rooms and bucket and barrel showers. Conditions not for everyone though but damn some real hottie to be found there as turnover was very high.
Had planned for a return again in 2 months but sadly my friends told me govt evicted everyone and just torn down the whole fking neighborhood.
Hope to meet up with some of you chaps for a few beers and compare mongering experiences.
Cheers all.
FZ
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The cafes in back packers' district
On De Tham, at the corner of Bui Vien, there are a couple bars and and cafes worth checking out.
The newest and swankiest bar at that corner is the Crazy Buffalo. You can sit out in the sidewalk and drink beer, coffee or have food. The Crazy Buffalo looks legit, but next to it is the smaller cafe Lien and cafe Lily's across the street. Both places have a few very hot young girls, and half dozen other older women in sexy clothing, who will sit and chat with you and drink whatever you will buy.
The 2 cafes have tables and chairs on the sidewalk all night for mostly Australian guys to sit with girls, chatting away with their broken English. These girls don't always go to the hotel with every guy, but they will go with certain guys for about 1 M the ST, depending on how much they like the the guy and how he negotiates. You have to sit and chat with the girls to make your deals. There are no routine arrangements for girls and sex in Vietnam. But anything is possible and available in Vietnam if you are willing to pay. Most of these girls will fuck for money. Don't let the old guys in this thread discourage you.
8 AM there were a few guys sitting at Lily's cafe. I was trying to wake up with a glass of Saigon's famous iced milk coffee. They had tables and chairs out all night on the sidewalk and were stacking them up before the cops started coming by. There were groups of Australians in their mid 30's carousing on the street. The girls were out, giggling, yelling, trying to pull them into the cafe. Looked like they had been there before and knew each other.
An old unkempt Australian guy in his disheveled suit was sitting at the next table, looking very drunk, talking to the girls and the woman owner with his severely slurring speech. Looked like he had been out drinking all night. He wanted to pay his tab and got extremely pissed off that they had tried to cheat him by 1 drink. He refused to pay for that drink and shuffled off, swearing, cursing at the women.
The guys sitting inside the cafe were having their hands up the thighs of these girls. I was waiting for the best-looking young girl but she was not available. They tried to set me up with an older girl but I would not go for her. There are some very hot young girls at these cafes worth checking out and making deals.
[QUOTE=JamesOcla;1853362]Going to be visiting in early April HCM. I have heard that the city has numerous sexy cafs where hot women sit with you and you can have a FS with them. Does this happen on premises or do you take them back to your hotel. It seems like this would be more of a GFE. For example, do places like cafe om fit this description? Any info would be great thanks.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker;1853903]The newest and swankiest bar at that corner is the Crazy Buffalo.[/QUOTE]Newest? Crazy Buffalo opened up during early 2000 something (around that time).
[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker;1853903]next to it is the smaller cafe Lien and cafe Lily's across the street. Both places have a few very hot young girls, and half dozen other older women in sexy clothing,[/QUOTE]Not quite correct. At Lily's, the number of staff is not that high (less than 9). Also, half the staff are guys.
[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker;1853903]Most of these girls will fuck for money.[/QUOTE]Not correct. I normally hang around Lily's, drink their $1 beers, and watch the scenery (it is the main backpacker corner). I have never seen anyone pick up any of the staff.
[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker;1853903]There are no routine arrangements for girls and sex in Vietnam. But anything is possible and available in Vietnam if you are willing to pay.[/QUOTE]True. If you offer a waitress that makes 3 M Dong a month, 1 M or more for couple of hours, then she / anyone can be tempted.
There are more bars on De Tham next to those 2 bars you mentioned that has female staff. I don't normally go to those places. Maybe you can tempt the girls over at those bars. But Lily's does not have P4P. A Shame; the owner, Lily and her sister, are cute.
The real hostess bars (with hostess type of girls) are located on the other side of Bui Vien. I don't go to those bars, so I can't report on those.
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The bro was asking about cafes, not bars. There are dozens girlie bars on Bui Vien and Do Quang Dau, where girls hang out all night. They will go to hotel with you for 1 M.
You can order coffees in those bars too. They would have someone bring the coffees from the street.
[QUOTE=GreenBud;1854151]There are more bars on De Tham next to those 2 bars you mentioned that has female staff. I don't normally go to those places. Maybe you can tempt the girls over at those bars. But Lily's does not have P4P. A Shame; the owner, Lily and her sister, are cute.
The real hostess bars (with hostess type of girls) are located on the other side of Bui Vien. I don't go to those bars, so I can't report on those.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker;1854281]The bro was asking about cafes, not bars. There are dozens girlie bars on Bui Vien and Do Quang Dau, where girls hang out all night. They will go to hotel with you for 1 M.
You can order coffees in those bars too. They would have someone bring the coffees from the street.[/QUOTE]I tend to think the FS part was more important to him than having a cup of coffee. You directed him to a couple cafes where he almost definitely won't get offered FS. And you greatly exaggerated the quality of girls there.
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And there aren't [B]dozens[/B] of girlie bars on Bui Vien and Do Quang Do. One dozen is 12. That's about how many there are, 12.
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[QUOTE=Wendella;1854422]I tend to think the FS part was more important to him than having a cup of coffee. You directed him to a couple cafes where he almost definitely won't get offered FS. And you greatly exaggerated the quality of girls there.[/QUOTE]I would even go so far as to question of there are many "girls" at Lilly and lien, they may look like it (girl) but bring them home and you may find a something little extra. I have seem many a guy find that out for themselves.
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[QUOTE=GreenBud;1854151]The real hostess bars (with hostess type of girls) are located on the other side of Bui Vien. I don't go to those bars, so I can't report on those.[/QUOTE]So on the other side of Bui Vien the bar girls sit with you, drink with you and you can take them back to your hotel for a price correct. Clarity is always the best.
So from the convo, most cafe girls will just sit and chat with you but not necessarily go with you for ST FS? And the bar girls will sit there chat with you, drink with you and you can bar fine them back to your place if the price is right?
I think I got it down LOL.
Sorry for asking detailed questions. I've mongered around the world but never in Vietnam. I always try to do the most amount of research before I hit up a place.
Thanks everyone.
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[QUOTE=JamesOcla;1854574]So on the other side of Bui Vien the bar girls sit with you, drink with you and you can take them back to your hotel for a price correct. Clarity is always the best.
So from the convo, most cafe girls will just sit and chat with you but not necessarily go with you for ST FS? And the bar girls will sit there chat with you, drink with you and you can bar fine them back to your place if the price is right?
I think I got it down LOL.
Sorry for asking detailed questions. I've mongered around the world but never in Vietnam. I always try to do the most amount of research before I hit up a place.
Thanks everyone.[/QUOTE]OK I won't say I know for certain. But there are bars on BV etc where you can get drinks alcoholic and coffee, and the girls will sit and chat with you and quickly drink their Lady drinks, and most will be willing to go with you, though I have on occasion met a few that said they are there just to entertain but unless you are a regular there, expect to be pressured for a bit of money in form of their drinks before they agree to go out with you. Don't expect a drive thru experience and be warned many aren't real girls. The cafe on Detham, well they can only be called cafe because they don't have the set up look of a bar they also offer beers and coffee, there are mostly older bigger girls, and the younger hotter girls aren't really girls, I have heard guys sitting next to me being offered takeout and I have had offers made to myself directly, but I have never taken any myself. Nevertheless the feeling is that takeout is not as avail as the bars on BV, the advantage of the cafes is that there is less pressure to buy girls drinks, and from my observations they slowly drink their drinks.
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[QUOTE=JamesOcla;1854574]So on the other side of Bui Vien the bar girls sit with you, drink with you and you can take them back to your hotel for a price correct. Clarity is always the best.
So from the convo, most cafe girls will just sit and chat with you but not necessarily go with you for ST FS? And the bar girls will sit there chat with you, drink with you and you can bar fine them back to your place if the price is right?
I think I got it down LOL.
Sorry for asking detailed questions. I've mongered around the world but never in Vietnam. I always try to do the most amount of research before I hit up a place.
Thanks everyone.[/QUOTE]Correct. Standard price is 1. 5 million for ST at those bars. Someone here claims its 1 million and I'll be honest, I have not tried these bars myself so I can't say for sure but every report besides his I have heard is that the 1. 5 mil is correct. If you do go, please report bavk to verify what you find is correct price.
These places are all clustered round where Bui Vien meets Do Quang Do street, on those 2 streets. A blind man could find them.
I'd forgotten that one aspect of Lily's that MC pointed out. The more attractive girls there are usually not girls, but boys. In fact there are a bar or 2 down the other end where you need to check carefully before closing the deal.
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Prices for hookers
There are no set prices for girls in Vietnam anywhere. Each one of them set her own price and it varied all over the map. It's a free and very competitive market.
The bros should be able to find many bar girls who would do ST for 1 M the. A bar girl started asking 1.2 M ST but immediately accepted 600 K and went to my hotel. After she took her clothes off, her body was so saggy that I would not even fuck her if she pays me big money. I was so disgusted, lost my hard on a couple times.
Some bar girls are so ugly they would have very hard times finding local guys who would fuck them for free, yet some foreigners were proud they got a good deal with her for 1.5 M.
[QUOTE=Wendella;1854770]Correct. Standard price is 1. 5 million for ST at those bars. Someone here claims its 1 million and I'll be honest, I have not tried these bars myself so I can't say for sure but every report besides his I have heard is that the 1. 5 mil is correct. If you do go, please report bavk to verify what you find is correct price.
These places are all clustered round where Bui Vien meets Do Quang Do street, on those 2 streets. A blind man could find them.
I'd forgotten that one aspect of Lily's that MC pointed out. The more attractive girls there are usually not girls, but boys. In fact there are a bar or 2 down the other end where you need to check carefully before closing the deal.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker;1855923]There are no set prices for girls in Vietnam anywhere. Each one of them set her own price and it varied all over the map. It's a free and very competitive market.[/QUOTE]I don't know why you always say these things. Of course there are set prices in some places, you know that. The MP's on LE Hong Phong and Su Van Hanh for example, those have sets prices. The FS MP's in Phu Nhuan and Tan Binh have set prices. The website girls even list set prices. Just to name a few types of venues that have set prices.
And do the website girls set their own prices? Some yes, some no.
About the ones on BV and DQD, yeah I guess it's ultimately up to the negotiating powers of the individuals involved. I should have said "standard asking price". In other words, what they will tell you they go for. More popular girls won't budge from that. And some ask for more.
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[QUOTE=JamesOcla;1853362]Going to be visiting in early April HCM. I have heard that the city has numerous sexy cafs where hot women sit with you and you can have a FS with them. Does this happen on premises or do you take them back to your hotel. It seems like this would be more of a GFE. For example, do places like cafe om fit this description? Any info would be great thanks.[/QUOTE]This question was asked because someone had posted misleading info imply that you can go to those cafe DJ, sit with those young girls then later you can go FS with them, I said that this was NOT the case unless you made them your "GF" or dated with throwing around lots cash, or maybe some of the plainer girls was desperate for cash and made a indecent proposal to you since you were known as a carrot head who thinks with little head rather than big head. Likewise a senior member here pm me a cafe he thought where that was happening in d7, I subsequently visited there and not only did I not see any cute girls but definitely nothing dodgy was going on, he later said that he misread the situation and the girls that came to the cafe was freelancers, that's certainly possible but I'm my eyes unlikely unless the owner of the cafe was getting some commission, as its unlikely the owner will allow solicitation to happen in his / her cafe without any profit for her. Nevertheless I went there at 9 pm after exploring D9 and again there was the same 3 avg looking workers, no new girls and def no one that acted like they were freelancing WL.
The purpose of this post is to say that whilst you will strike out trying to hook girls for ST at cafe DJ, there are other cafes where this sort of thing happens.
If you travel 1 HR outside of HCMC proper, you will find little cafes, where for the cost of the drink 20 k, you will have girls ask you if you want to FS them at a nearby hotel, the cost is 200-350 depending on the location and quality of the girls. I haven't been tempted with the 200 k girls thinking whilst a few was cute I expected a pretty rushed experience, I have however tried the 350 k girl she was a solid 7, 19 yrs old, no BJ, no GFE. So not really worth it given the distance, price and experience.
Likewise in D6 there are some cafes, mostly staff by older girls who I wouldn't be interested in cost is 500 k, but today I revised them just out of curiosity and found a cute 20 yr old. I wasn't interested in trying because for that price you can get better looking girls elsewhere, but I sat with her and groped her pussy and tits whilst she was trying to get me sexually aroused so I would take her to the hotel. So to say there aren't cafes where you can have a cute sexy girl sit with you then later you can have FS with them at a hotel. Well that's not exactly true P.S. To grope them ist 100 k incl drink.
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This Lukeskywalker person used to post the same shit in the China forums a few years ago. Same nonesense and writing styles. I'm very skeptical he even lives or has been to Vietnam.
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[QUOTE=MutantChicken;1853367]so its often more easier to get a local to show you, then later you will be recognized as someone who knows the correct price and procedure thus you won't be ripped off.[/QUOTE]The 100% guarantee of getting ripped off is if someone contacts you for your 'tour' services, that's for sure.
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[QUOTE=MutantChicken;1853367]usually with lost of foreigners overpaying.[/QUOTE]The only 'overpaying' would be for those who want to contact you for your 'pimping' services.
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[QUOTE=Lost99;1864783]The only 'overpaying' would be for those who want to contact you for your 'pimping' services.[/QUOTE]To be quite honest, I believe it was a fair deal for what he charged. Not to mention that he was a great tour guide as well.
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Huynh tan phat
Huynh tan phat has been my go to street for quite awhile, mostly because I live close, but also because there were many places close together, and standard rate was 200 k. Then, about 6 weeks ago, many of them weren't open anymore, were closing much earlier, and it just seemed dead. Does anyone know this area, and know what happened to it? There is only one, the closest to the bridge, that was still open late at night, but when I ventured in, all the women were, seriously, about 40 or so, fat, and ugly. Then, the guy tried to charge me more! I left as fast as I could, but I miss that street being so active. Any ideas what happened, or where it all moved to?
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[QUOTE=Klmlbt6;1872628]Huynh tan phat has been my go to street for quite awhile, mostly because I live close, but also because there were many places close together, and standard rate was 200 k. Then, about 6 weeks ago, many of them weren't open anymore, were closing much earlier, and it just seemed dead. Does anyone know this area, and know what happened to it? There is only one, the closest to the bridge, that was still open late at night, but when I ventured in, all the women were, seriously, about 40 or so, fat, and ugly. Then, the guy tried to charge me more! I left as fast as I could, but I miss that street being so active. Any ideas what happened, or where it all moved to?[/QUOTE]Maybe due to the big holiday weekend? All the cafe oms in Binh Chanh off of Nguyen Van Linh got permanently shut down by police a couple weeks ago.
I have checked many of those HTP hot tocs you mentioned but never did find one with young / cute girls. Did you see something I didn't see?
Is the last one standing the one that you have to go way way back inside the shopfront to reach the front door? That's on right side as you head south past the market. I never did check that one.
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[QUOTE=Klmlbt6;1872628]Huynh tan phat has [/QUOTE]I just checked to see your old posts, you only have SEVEN, even though you've been on the forum since last September. If you posted more reports, not sure what the number is, but you would quality for PM privileges, which would make communicating about certain things easier.
You should do that! PM helps a lot.
I'd actually like to talk to you about things in that area but only via PM, not in the forum.
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I have checked many of those HTP hot tocs you mentioned but never did find one with cute girls. Did you see something I didn't see?
Is the last one standing the one that you have to go way way back inside the shop front to reach the front door? That's on right side as you head south past the market. I never did check that one.
It is the first one over the bridge past the little market on the right. Really not worth checking out. Before, there were some very nice girls at a few of them.
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Just a little report. I haven't been to NPK in over a year when the girl there tried to only do a HJ. Paid 200 and complained then walked out. I used to go there all the time when Na and her sister worked there. So young, cute with big boobs and nice smile with good attitude. Ok so there was a new stable and the girl at the door was small, cute and young so I went up with her. The man next to me was complaining so my girl and his girl switch. Now I got the older lady (27-34) but huge boobs and nice enough face.
She went wild though with a porn star BBBJ that had it all, and then after she insisted on giving me a body massage. I do enjoy the massage after you know so there's no anticipation since I already busted one. However after the massage she gave me another round but I paid normal rate of 400. Pleasantly surprised service. Haven't been back in over two weeks though.
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[QUOTE=AmericanThief;1890698]Just a little report. I haven't been to NPK in over a year when the girl there tried to only do a HJ. Paid 200 and complained then walked out. I used to go there all the time when Na and her sister worked there. So young, cute with big boobs and nice smile with good attitude. Ok so there was a new stable and the girl at the door was small, cute and young so I went up with her. The man next to me was complaining so my girl and his girl switch. Now I got the older lady (27-34) but huge boobs and nice enough face.
She went wild though with a porn star BBBJ that had it all, and then after she insisted on giving me a body massage. I do enjoy the massage after you know so there's no anticipation since I already busted one. However after the massage she gave me another round but I paid normal rate of 400. Pleasantly surprised service. Haven't been back in over two weeks though.[/QUOTE]I can't believe they would take your girl away after you chose her! That's insane! I'd be furious. What, the guy saw your girl and said, Hey let me take that one instead. Wow.
Preumably he picked that girl, and then she gave porn star quality service so what's his complaint?
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Fr
[QUOTE=AmericanThief;1890698]Just a little report. I haven't been to NPK in over a year when the girl there tried to only do a HJ. Paid 200 and complained then walked out. I used to go there all the time when Na and her sister worked there. So young, cute with big boobs and nice smile with good attitude. Ok so there was a new stable and the girl at the door was small, cute and young so I went up with her. The man next to me was complaining so my girl and his girl switch. Now I got the older lady (27-34) but huge boobs and nice enough face.
She went wild though with a porn star BBBJ that had it all, and then after she insisted on giving me a body massage. I do enjoy the massage after you know so there's no anticipation since I already busted one. However after the massage she gave me another round but I paid normal rate of 400. Pleasantly surprised service. Haven't been back in over two weeks though.[/QUOTE]Nice ABD FR and good luck bro.
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I went to Benny's this afternoon. The girl asked me for 400 k at the door to the barber chairs. Needless to say, I was a little unnerved that she asked for the money up front before sucking me off. I thought it was only NPK that was 400 k a pop? I'll try there tomorrow.
Anyway, I tried to bargain the girl down to 350 k; she was kinda ugly and I didn't think she was worth full price. She should paid me! She said no way, and I said bye.
Is this was Benny's is like? This is my first time trying to hunt down the hot tocs, and if all are ugly I think I'd rather date girls and get them to blow me for free and put the hours in instead.
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He didn't really take my girl. He was already in his cubicle and couldn't see her. He was just protesting a lot and didn't speak viet or english so the girls decided to switch to shut him up. Some days I would have been mad but that day I was pretty mellow.
Anyway it worked out great for me.
I headed over to my regular girl today but they were very busy so I didn't wait. I headed back to NPK and was the only guy there. I asked for a line up and got that girl I was supposed to have last time so it all worked out for me in the end. She looked really young, pretty cute, tiny and short.
She tried her best she really did, but she just wasnt able to handle me. She did something no other girl has done before though. She got onto the table in a 69 position at one point. He panties were off and her ass was in my face. I didnt DATY but it was nice to play with. It took her a long while to get sloppy and she was never really able get more than my head in her mouth but she wasnt acting foul or anything, she is really young and small and eventually I finished. She asked if I was ok, and asked my name. She said in english viet man small and then motioned to her forearm and started bobing her head joking about my size same as her arm, which I've heard many times before.
400 total.
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Went to 142 NPK yesterday (the place where the girls all wear skin tight short purple dresses. Looks like they're wearing grape skin). I picked a really good looking girl, about an 8-8.5 no older than 25 max. Her name was Hanh (Han? We went upstairs to the "VIP" room in the back as there was no one else in the house (was about 2 pm), and sat on the table. She undid my pants and pulled down the top of her dress to reveal nice natural see-cups, and boy did I like groping all over those. What a nice rack. She was a petite girl, so her having nice titties was pretty awesome. Honestly she could be a real stunner if she would just tone up a little, but as it is she was plenty hot. She undid my pants and told me to lie down, and then she proceeded to give me a nice but slightly toothy blowjob while I fingered her hairy pussy. She put her foot up on a stool next to the fully reclined chair that I can only assume was there just to allow easier access to her pussy. Now, I've never been a fan of the blowjob in the lying down position; I like the tongue on the bottom on the down stroke. So after a bit I sat up, and she knelt down on the floor in front of me so I could grope both of her tits while she blew me. I had to tell her a couple of times to ease up on the teeth, but she worked me faithfully up and down until I shot into her mouth. She kept right on blowing my brains out until I was done, and then she cleaned me off. I felt a little bad for her when I saw the size of the load she spit into the sink XD But she smiled and insisted I kept feeling up on her tits while she cleaned me up. She gave me a business card (which of course I tossed; can't have the "nice" girls seeing that shit!) with the place's address, insisting that I come back. Which I might. After I sample the rest of the market. After that we went downstairs, I paid mama 400 k, and I was on my way.
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I recently visit 84 NPK for the first time. 12 girls were available at 11 AM, I took the youngest and prettier one, 20 yo short skirt, 160 cm nice and slim with nice natural boob (85 B-cup). The place was clean but each room is only separate by a curtain. At 11 am I was alone but I don't think I would appreciate if somebody was just next to my "room".
The service was fine (massage, BBBJ, CIM), I was allowed to touch her everywhere but forbidden to finger her.
Cost: 200 k entry fees, 300 k tips.
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You overpaid
[QUOTE=Nautnza;1896912]I recently visit 84 NPK for the first time. 12 girls were available at 11 AM, I took the youngest and prettier one, 20 yo short skirt, 160 cm nice and slim with nice natural boob (85 B-cup). The place was clean but each room is only separate by a curtain. At 11 am I was alone but I don't think I would appreciate if somebody was just next to my "room".
The service was fine (massage, BBBJ, CIM), I was allowed to touch her everywhere but forbidden to finger her.
Cost: 200 k entry fees, 300 k tips.[/QUOTE]All of the NPK Hot Toc's are 400 k all in (200 k to the house and 200 k to the girl in "tip" so you got up sold. Next time just give the mamasan 400 k on your way out, and don't stop to bargain.
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Npk
Sorry for the late posting. I spent about two weeks in HCMC, mostly chasing non-pro girls. But I stayed close enough to NPK that I sampled all of the Hot Tocs there in that time. I had some bad stories (old hags walking into my cubicle trying to get my pants off, a girl trying not to puke from who knows what while she was washing her hands pre-BJ. Needless to say I left ASAP), and I had some good stories (a cute girl from one of the Hot Toc on the south side of the street kneeling down on the floor and urging me to fuck her face all the way back until her head was against the wall then accidentally swallowing my load); but my favorite place by far was 142. They have the hottest girls, they have the friendliest mamasan, the girls even gave me some water and a back rub while we were waiting for the mamasan while she was in the bathroom. Without a doubt, hands down, best place on NPK; personal opinion.
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[QUOTE=KenjiYoshioka;1902007]All of the NPK Hot Toc's are 400 k all in (200 k to the house and 200 k to the girl in "tip" so you got up sold. Next time just give the mamasan 400 k on your way out, and don't stop to bargain.[/QUOTE]You also have been upsold, locals post regularly they pay 300, max 350 when they find a nice girl 350,300 being the norm. So yeah just hand 300 k when leaving don't stop to bargain, I have done this even when bring foreigners with me, so not excuses.
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For the team
I took one for the team today. I was in D7, opened my GPS to find a lunch time quickie but found a Hot Toc Goi Dau near. It was either in binh chanh or Q8, but not sure: 74 ap, duong9 just off pham Hung Blvd. Decent space and cubicles but I got a horrible provider, she couldn't be bothered to service me so I had to psyche myself out to finish and get the fuck out. The guy 2 cubes to my right was having a great time with a soft tones high pitched girl who sounded real sweet anf I think he got two rounds too. On the way out two more girls were available, younger and cute but who knows without trying. Probably won't go back, passed a few others on the way so maybe try them. Good news it was 200,000 vnd no tip.
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I'm coming back
I'm the happiest person in the world right now. I just booked my ticket back to Cambodia and then I'll head to either Vietnam or Thailand. Thailand obviously has more choice but Saigon is still the most fun place I have ever been when it comes to getting girls. I can't remember if I posted this in a previous post but I wanted to visit the bar on top of a Saigon hotel that the war journalists used to sit in and do their work. It's in the guide books. But I didn't want to go alone. Its like level 10 in a hotel. So I stood on the street nearby and waited till I saw two good looking girls and I just walked up to them and asked if they spoke English and told them I didn't want to go to this posh bar alone and asked if they would join me. They looked at me like I was a creep and walked off. But I tried it on a second pair of girls and they agreed to come with me. I would never ever approach a girl in the street in my home city, but I did it here and we all headed upstairs (in the lift). They were nervous and a bit worried at first but its a 5 star hotel with a bar on top so they could see the door staff and feel a bit safe but it still seemed like I was taking them into a hotel so I had to pacify them a bit. And then we got up into the bar and I bought them a drink that cost too much and they shared a piece of round crusty bread with me that they had bought for their dinner and we talked and laughed and made friends. One was married and the other was single and looking. And I really think she wanted to spend more time with me once I decided that I wanted to leave, but her looks were not as good upstairs in the light as I thought they were downstairs in the dark street. And she had braces which can be cute but also can spoil a face. and even though the sex with her may have been free i would then have to chat and stay in touch and i didn't really want the baggage. But the point of this story is that Vn is an amazing and fun place and it should be on top of everyone's travel lists.
But the real reason I am posting this is to find out once and for all if what I want exists in Vn. Are there bars I can go to and sit with a girl who will fondle me in the bar in public (under the table) for a couple of hours. I don't need to take her out or have sex. I just enjoy the feeling of a hand on my cock sitting at a table in a bar. Does this exist or not? Please help.
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[QUOTE=Sidtip;1911430]I'm the happiest person in the world right now. I just booked my ticket back to Cambodia and then I'll head to either Vietnam or Thailand. Thailand obviously has more choice but Saigon is still the most fun place I have ever been when it comes to getting girls. I can't remember if I posted this in a previous post but I wanted to visit the bar on top of a Saigon hotel that the war journalists used to sit in and do their work. It's in the guide books.
But the real reason I am posting this is to find out once and for all if what I want exists in Vn. Are there bars I can go to and sit with a girl who will fondle me in the bar in public (under the table) for a couple of hours. I don't need to take her out or have sex. I just enjoy the feeling of a hand on my cock sitting at a table in a bar. Does this exist or not? Please help.[/QUOTE]Bars in VN are more for pick up, not for in-situ service. Most VNse girls rather do what you described in private to semi-private settings like a café-om (with some cover or somewhat dark settings) or KTV with a private or group-private room.
Good luck,
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More info
[QUOTE=NguyetLang;1911969]Bars in VN are more for pick up, not for in-situ service. Most VNse girls rather do what you described in private to semi-private settings like a caf-om (with some cover or somewhat dark settings) or KTV with a private or group-private room.
Good luck,[/QUOTE]Can you explain a bit more about these caf-oms. I tried to find one and just found lots of wrong addresses and wasted two hours a few years ago by following all the addresses on here. And is there a KTV in Saigon that has rooms that I can go into with a naked girl and have her dance for me naked. Does all this exist or am I just dreaming.
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Warning. The MutantChicken scam
This is just a little warning to new people. There are people on this site. Tom and MutantChicken are two of them. That send private messages to new people and offer to take them around Saigon. They take them to venues that give secret commissions to Tom and the others. So the punters ends up paying extra. Sometimes extra drinks and stuff are snuck onto the bill to get extra cash for Tom and the others.
If any new people get invited by Tom or his fake profiles to go on a tour then stay away. There are many good people on here who will tell you where to go for free. If you go to kaka spa, liberty 2 and Ben Nys you will be happy. If you want more than that just listen to the regulars who give out information for free.
Saigon has sex at every turn. You do not need help to find it.
Be safe and don't be scammed by the scammers like Tom and Mutant.
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Nice new guide
[QUOTE=Sidtip;1914520]Saigon has sex at every turn. You do not need help to find it.[/QUOTE]I haven't delved into spas etc. , but this seems like a very good source.
[URL]http://www.jakarta100bars.com/2016/04/best-massage-parlours-spas-saigon.html[/URL]
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Not quite a scam
MutantChicken has been very open about the fact that he runs a business of monger tourism (I don't know the details of his charges as I haven't availed it). You can see his advertisement in the Classified Ads section of the site: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2411-Classified-Ads&p=1854499&viewfull=1#post1854499[/URL].
On a side note, as with "every" travel agent in the world, I expect there will be some amount of understanding between him and the venues he takes his guests to.
[QUOTE=Sidtip;1914520]This is just a little warning to new people. There are people on this site. Tom and MutantChicken are two of them. That send private messages to new people and offer to take them around Saigon. They take them to venues that give secret commissions to Tom and the others. So the punters ends up paying extra. Sometimes extra drinks and stuff are snuck onto the bill to get extra cash for Tom and the others.
If any new people get invited by Tom or his fake profiles to go on a tour then stay away. There are many good people on here who will tell you where to go for free. If you go to kaka spa, liberty 2 and Ben Nys you will be happy. If you want more than that just listen to the regulars who give out information for free.
Saigon has sex at every turn. You do not need help to find it.
Be safe and don't be scammed by the scammers like Tom and Mutant.[/QUOTE]
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LE Duyen
LE Duyen do not offer BJ.
But the most pretty girl at LE duyen 4 truong dinh.
[QUOTE=SoloTravels;1916133]Which LE Duyen have BJ?[/QUOTE]
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I am a Singaporean in Vietnam.
I am new to this forum. I hope I can contribute some useful things.
There are members in this forum in my Singapore forum are troublemaker.
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[QUOTE=NoImbecile;1916451]MutantChicken has been very open about the fact that he runs a business of monger tourism (I don't know the details of his charges as I haven't availed it). You can see his advertisement in the Classified Ads section of the site: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2411-Classified-Ads&p=1854499&viewfull=1#post1854499[/URL].
On a side note, as with "every" travel agent in the world, I expect there will be some amount of understanding between him and the venues he takes his guests to.[/QUOTE]The clarify even though you say as with "every" travel agent, with me there is not such understanding or arrangement, I charge a fee, and there after there is no secret commission, the price you pay is what locals pay and it is dramatically cheaper than what is currently published online, how can you say there is a secret commission when you are getting a BJ for 6 dollars.
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Where to go
The following information is provided so that all newcomers to this site can easily find some of the best places in Saigon. This is a city that can be hotter than Bangkok and more fun than anywhere else in the world if you know where to look.
Most tourists only have a few days and do not have time to waste. For this reason it is recommended that you stay within 15 minutes of the main tourist areas. If you travel further than 15 minutes you can find places that are $5 cheaper but they are also dirtier. Almost all of the customers in the outlying shops are locals, many of who refuse to use condoms and who mistreat the girls. The incidence of disease including HIV is higher as you move further from the city in an attempt to save $5. And, if there are no pretty girls in the cheap venue you will have wasted a significant part of your day.
Keep in mind that the best looking girls all travel to where they can make the most money and this means the central D1 area.
There are many pimps on this site that will offer to show you around. Some of them are very dangerous. Some have taken photographs of their "clients" and then threatened to publish these photographs or send information to their wives or family members. One pimp. TomM - also uses the photograph of one of his past clients as his profile photo on this site. This is a low act and these people are not the type of people you want to have dealings with, unless you want to expose yourself to extortion or blackmail or even the police.
Cheap BJ.
Ben Nys or Bennys.
You walk in, pick one of the 6 or so girls and head upstairs where you can sit on a chair and get a BJ. Google old reviews and its address and you will see what its all about.
Massage with extras.
Kaka Spa.
This is a massage shop in one of the main tourist streets. Google the address and head over. Pick the girl of your choice and then start the fun. Each girl with offer different services ranging from a HJ up to leaving the shop with you for an overnight romp.
Here is an old review of the place:
I was walking down the street when I noticed some legs in a tiny pink dress. I was stunned and started following them. I could not believe this body was real. I was tempted for the first time in my life to stop a girl in the street and offer her whatever she wanted to go with me. I followed her not even 50 m when she walked into a caf and vanished before I could blink. I looked up at the signs on the shop and on the first floor there was a massage shop. I went in and asked if anyone did massages. This was an ordinary caf with families eating.
The shop assistant walked upstairs and came back with my girl who said it was her job to get customers off the street and bring them in for the other girls. That's why she was so hot.
I told her that I only wanted a massage from her and as the shop had not yet opened she agreed. OMG. No. 1 she kept on her skirt and tight top but let my hands wander. Then I asked her to take off her panties and sit on me. Then began the best 3-hour session I have had in my life. She spent the next 3 hours rubbing my entire body with her naked arse, pussy and tits. We used the entire bottle of oil and were slipping and sliding all over each other. There was chest and ear and neck kissing. Fingering. You name it. Everything except sex which neither of us wanted. I can't remember the tip. I think it was $60. I was just ready to throw money at this girl. I went back 2 days later and saw the same girl. The session was the same but more relaxed. We could lie together and touch. But once again I received a massage of a lifetime with her using only her pussy and ass. She was pushing her pussy into my face to make me lick her but that's not my job and she was moaning as she rubbed her pussy up and down me.
Liberty 2 Hotel / Spa.
This place is up some stairs next to the hotel. Google for the address.
The owner of this place is very choosy about which girls he hires. They are often amazing. Some of the hottest I have seen in Saigon. You walk in and head to a room. They pick the girl for you but if you are not happy you can ask for a new one. You do not pay till afterwards which is a great sign of how honest this place is.
The girls often limit their services to HJs; however I have managed to get the girls to take their panties and bra off and then you can touch anywhere. I have also had two girls at once in this venue and was so stunned by how good looking they were that I ended my massage, when outside for a fast fast fast dinner and then raced back for another session. The girls in this place can be simply amazing and no one should miss it.
Hot Toc.
These places are so much fun but they can be a little bit tame. Every time you visit one you will be up for a challenge to get the girl to do a little bit extra. Looks at the photos first and then you will see what I mean. You walk in and pick one or two girls and then sit back and let them pamper you. Go for a massage but also try the facial and the ear cleaning because its the most sensual experience having these hot goddesses pampering you.
LE Duyen 4.
•Address Truong Dinh and Nguyen Du (note, there are 5 locations, but to me, LE Duyen 4 is the best).
•Girls – 8/10 (about 50+ work there).
•Price – 120,000 VND ($6. 50 USD) for hair wash and massage — Tip, usually 200,000 VND ($11). Manicure / pedicure about 50,000 VND ($3).
[URL]https://jugsandbeaks.wordpress.com/v...ge/le-duyen-4/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.google.com.au/search?q=l...ih=814&dpr=0.8[/URL]
We will update this info from time to time but don't just reply on these places. Walk around and explore. You will find fun places in nearly every city street. Try new ones and have an adventure.
But the most important thing is to be safe. Do not share your personal details with anyone on this site and do no meet up with "pimps' and 'tour guides" who approach you on this site.
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Massage with extras.
Kaka Spa.
This is a massage shop in one of the main tourist streets. Google the address and head over. Pick the girl of your choice and then start the fun. Each girl with offer different services ranging from a HJ up to leaving the shop with you for an overnight romp.
[/QUOTE]Confirmed Kaka Spa (near the start of Bui Vien St) does offer extras.
It's a strange location, but go up the stairs and make sure to ask for the VIP room.
If it's after 6 pm, most of their girls will probably be out on the street below so they will call them up (or you choose one before you go in).
I had quite a few massages in various shops last week and can't recall the price here (maybe 200 K) for the room.
I had pretty decent massage by a cute 19 yo and she delivered a pretty damn impressive HJ. Kept her clothes on, but did allow quite unrestricted global roaming for the last 15 minutes.
Maybe 600 K for the tip sounds about right.
More reports to come soon.
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84 npk
Stopped by here after reading the reviews picked a girl named Ann. Showed me upstairs to a semi private room but no one else was there. Cute 28 y/o Asians with big tits. Got BBBJ, LFK, FIV and could roam wherever.
Total was 400 k and didn't pay until after. Was quite confused, gave 200 to her 200 to mamasan.
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[QUOTE=MutantChicken;1916615]The clarify even though you say as with "every" travel agent, with me there is not such understanding or arrangement, I charge a fee, and there after there is no secret commission, the price you pay is what locals pay and it is dramatically cheaper than what is currently published online, how can you say there is a secret commission when you are getting a BJ for 6 dollars.[/QUOTE]It's actually a really good deal. If you guys read my thread about my sexcapade, I also included the price and the adventure.
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Warning
[QUOTE=Tmackly;1921434]It's actually a really good deal. If you guys read my thread about my sexcapade, I also included the price and the adventure.[/QUOTE]Punters should be very careful about being show around. You are exposing yourself to blackmail. There are plenty of addresses on this site of places you can go for fun. You do not have to pay for it. Every big street has a fun place on it. Do not take a risk with agents.
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[QUOTE=Sidtip;1921473]Punters should be very careful about being show around. You are exposing yourself to blackmail. There are plenty of addresses on this site of places you can go for fun. You do not have to pay for it. Every big street has a fun place on it. Do not take a risk with agents.[/QUOTE]Absolutely, I completely agree with what you're saying. But being a foreigner and not to mention that it was my first time in HCM, I needed a tour guide and also wouldn't mind going to a couple of naughty places. It was a great experience. Being taken to places where the locals would go. I also went to Bennys and NPK while I was there. Found too many foreigners where there and it was quite pricey.
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[QUOTE=Tmackly;1921599]Absolutely, I completely agree with what you're saying. But being a foreigner and not to mention that it was my first time in HCM, I needed a tour guide and also wouldn't mind going to a couple of naughty places. It was a great experience. Being taken to places where the locals would go. I also went to Bennys and NPK while I was there. Found too many foreigners where there and it was quite pricey.[/QUOTE]It seems strange that you would think there was too many foreigners at Ben Nys. And you don't share a room so it's not really important who else is there.
There is free information all over the place and there is definitely no need to pay anyone. He charges $75 and might save you $5 on a massage so unless you plan to have 14 or so massages in a day you are going to waste money. There are so many fun places that you would have to be blind to miss them.
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[QUOTE=Sidtip;1921845]It seems strange that you would think there was too many foreigners at Ben Nys. And you don't share a room so it's not really important who else is there.
There is free information all over the place and there is definitely no need to pay anyone. He charges $75 and might save you $5 on a massage so unless you plan to have 14 or so massages in a day you are going to waste money. There are so many fun places that you would have to be blind to miss them.[/QUOTE]Some guys need to be spoon fed. There is a premium for that. Nothing wrong.
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[QUOTE=Tiger888;1921860]Some guys need to be spoon fed. There is a premium for that. Nothing wrong.[/QUOTE]I kind of agree with you. Once I paid a few dollars to a tout who then took me to the place he got commission. I walked past 20 good places with him so that he could take me where he got commission. I was young and stupid and got ripped off which made me feel silly afterwards.
The great news is that this site gives so many addresses that you don't have to look anywhere else.
So the warning is to be very very careful if you meet a tour guide.
There is no reason to leave the main area in Saigon because you can get everything you need in the center. And the girls are usually cleaner. In the outskirts they are more likely to deal with locals and many locals are uneducated and force the girls to have unprotected sex. The sad truth is that you are more likely to get a diseased girl if you venture away from the main areas. But you might save $10.
The good looking girls obviously go where the money is and that's where the tourists are so you will probably find the best girls in the center.
Don't ever be fooled by fake photos that tour guides show. If they have photos of girls ask them to send you a video of the girl holding up three fingers or today's newspaper as proof that the pic is real. There are so many scams and new punters need to be careful.
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Request for an update on HCH hot toc
Hi,
I am planning a week or so in HCH and need the latest info on BJ hot tocs. Is Benny's still up? Any other good venues? What are the rates? I gather your lady disrobes more or less and lets you roam. Is this still the case? I am very grateful for any info. The last tie I visited I stayed in District 1 in a street that had several MPs, opposite the Indochine Hotel in Ha Bai Trung street. Do these girls provide anything but massage?
Thank you.
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[QUOTE=RoamingViking;1927980]Hi,
I am planning a week or so in HCH and need the latest info on BJ hot tocs. Is Benny's still up? Any other good venues? What are the rates? I gather your lady disrobes more or less and lets you roam. Is this still the case? I am very grateful for any info. The last tie I visited I stayed in District 1 in a street that had several MPs, opposite the Indochine Hotel in Ha Bai Trung street. Do these girls provide anything but massage?
Thank you.[/QUOTE]Benny is still there its still crap compared to all the other places found thru out HMC, the only advantage is that is foreigner friendly, IE they charge you a higher price, the gals are below avg BTW and they don't disrobe, the pull up their squire, pull down their panties and pull down their dress and take off their bra. So if you call that disrobing then sure. I think the min at Benny is 400, it could be 450 nowi haven't been myself in 6 yrs I checked it out last year but left after seeing the girls.
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Massage
If it looks like something is going on usually means there's nothing going on! Most of those Duyen massage parlors the girls are just eye candy! They do offer good massages but usually nothing else.
[QUOTE=RoamingViking;1927980]Hi,
I am planning a week or so in HCH and need the latest info on BJ hot tocs. Is Benny's still up? Any other good venues? What are the rates? I gather your lady disrobes more or less and lets you roam. Is this still the case? I am very grateful for any info. The last tie I visited I stayed in District 1 in a street that had several MPs, opposite the Indochine Hotel in Ha Bai Trung street. Do these girls provide anything but massage?
Thank you.[/QUOTE]
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Regarding Ben Ny's
Greetings fellow hobbyists.
Arrived in HCMC this afternoon, and took uber to my hotel, a piece of cake and 90,000 d. After getting settled, I took uber again over to the "guitar street". I'm thinking of buyng a handmade guitar at a highly recommended shop and bringing it home with me, I just need to finalize all the logistics and pencil out the extra luggage costs.
I went from the guitar shop to try to find Ben Ny's at the addresses on both sides of the bridge, but didn't see hide nor hair of it. I have seen pics of the sign and entrance online, so I felt I new what to look for.
Any locals have intel on this? I'm just in town for a few days and felt obligated to give it a try. Of course I can try that other street, but it was getting late and a long day so I came back "home" tonight.
Thanks everyone for all your contributions.
Edit: Just searched online and saw posted July 2016 that Ben Ny's is still in business, but they have indeed moved to another address, which is ninety on the same street. It has either taken the place of, or shares, the address with a barber shop.
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Old NPK, new place for me
Nothing new. Old good NPK. I live nearby and I'm lazy so I visit hot tocs there from time to time even the price is quite high.
Actually I already had my favorite place and girl, but today I decided to try a new one and I don't regret.
That place is the last one on the street, on the right, almost next to Highlands.
A little chubby, but very cute girl met me, it was her turn. Nice face, big boobs (for Asians) and warm smile. Kinda my style. Why not? I followed her room (at least the farthest one) is much better than most of rooms on this street, it has bathroom with shower and just looks nice.
As you may now in some places it's only BJ and some give you 2 minutes super unprofessional terrible massage in the end or before this girl also asked me to turn first for massage. Okay. Massage was not professional of course, but still good! She wasn't in hurry, massaged everything from neck to feet in the same way as your GF could do. It's really surprised me.
Okay, it's time to turn around and get a BJ. Without bra & dress her boobs looked even better. Just the right size.
She started moving them on my body, kissing neck, nipples and so on. At the same time hugging me and "occasionally" touching my cock, playing with me.
Then she slowly moved to my balls, while I was enjoying her great boobs and already-getting-wet pussy.
During the main job she made breaks for cuddling and kissing me (no, not just stupid licking of my nipples). The best GFE that can be made in such a place.
Again for those who knows NPK it should look very unusual especially for the first visit.
After we had nice small talk and she really tried to understand and explain despite my low level vietnamese and terrible accent. So I also took a free speaking lesson: the I can't say anything about her english because we was talking in Vietnamese only, but I guess it's about zero.
What can be interested for you from that talk: She said she is 22. And sorry, but I forgot her name.
But be careful, when I paid I entered a room where girls rest. And only 2-3 of them are okay for me (18-23, good body, pretty face), the rest girls was too old or ugly. So if you decide to give a try never agree on the first girl unless you like her as it was in my case.
P.S. I heard moaning of another girl in next room. I'm sure somebody was fucking her. Experts, is it for real? I never heard about FS on NPK.
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Bennys
Bennys is indeed still there. Cross the bridge, go straight through the round about and when you see a parallel road to the main road on the right its close by. The sign is smaller than it used to be. Was #110 before but it's still in the same area. Go slow you will see it.
[QUOTE=Hooky;1933958]Greetings fellow hobbyists.
Arrived in HCMC this afternoon, and took uber to my hotel, a piece of cake and 90,000 d. After getting settled, I took uber again over to the "guitar street". I'm thinking of buyng a handmade guitar at a highly recommended shop and bringing it home with me, I just need to finalize all the logistics and pencil out the extra luggage costs.
I went from the guitar shop to try to find Ben Ny's at the addresses on both sides of the bridge, but didn't see hide nor hair of it. I have seen pics of the sign and entrance online, so I felt I new what to look for.
Any locals have intel on this? I'm just in town for a few days and felt obligated to give it a try. Of course I can try that other street, but it was getting late and a long day so I came back "home" tonight.
Thanks everyone for all your contributions.
Edit: Just searched online and saw posted July 2016 that Ben Ny's is still in business, but they have indeed moved to another address, which is ninety on the same street. It has either taken the place of, or shares, the address with a barber shop.[/QUOTE]
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Bennys
Found it today on what I would call the south side of the street, the address says 110 and there is a smaller sign as reported by Dragonfly.
I got a solid 5 there today, and by solid I mean she was a bit on the chubby side. I'll add a +0. 5 for youth, though. Quite energetic, though something was missing, I think it was the technique of building suspense. Perhaps she is new. Finally into her eagerly waiting mouth.
The rest of the ladies I spotted there seemed reasonably attractive, not particularly old nor young.
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Cafe oms
Dear fellow mongers.
I am returning to HCM over Christmas and for the first time have some time to myself and naturally want to indulge. I have been quite a few times before but never had the time and was unaware of some of the possibilities that exist. Thanks to posts on this board I have educated myself and now am aware of places like Benny's and the hot tocs on NPK. Perhaps they are like the BJ bars in Bangkok, a scene I know well and have described in my posts on that board. I will check them out for sure. I realize that posts can damage the business and lead to shut-downs, though at the same time I am sure the authorities are aware of what is going on.
I am especially intrigued by these CAFÉ OMS, the kinds of places where my hands are free to roam and maybe more. BUT I still do not know where exactly to look. Therefore I am appealing to my brothers on this board to share any actionable intell. The private board should be discreet enough, I imagine, so please shoot me a PM.
Many thanks. I will share my experiences, I promise, as I always do.
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Bennys
Went there yesterday at 6 pm. Google took me to wrong place on other side of the highway. So make sure you have correct address. Greeted by a nice girl and she showed me inside. I said I wanted to choose the girl and she said OK. And we went outside. There were 5 to 6 girls. All maybe 5/10 rating to me. Looking at the others girls I chose the one who greeted my first place. At least she had better face than anyone else. Slightly plump though but cute looking. May be 6. She relaxes me and went for it. This was my first time in this this kind of saloon bar. And the whole situation made me uncomfortable. It was 10 to 15 min hard on but no success. I have to say she kept trying and was very skillful. After 20 min or so I though my I should give up. Bubba was hard but no sign of coming. When she thought I am getting uncomfortable and wanted to give up. She gave me all access To her and now I am fingering her and grabbing her ass. Still no success. Finally I sat down and changes position so that I had her head in my hand and started stroking in and her mouth. Asked her to look at me so I can get visual. And finally it happens. Longest BJ for my lifetime- 30 to 35 min. Boy I never was such tenacious women who did not want to give up.
I was so relived that I gave her 100 k more tip. Total damage was 400+100 tip.
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Thanks for the update
Thanks for the update. I am headed to HCH over Christmas and for the first time will have a few days to myself. On other visits I have always had company. It sounds like Bennys is still worth a visit as well as the other places on NPK. As always any and all info is welcome. You can PM me. I am also interested in cafe bia oms.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=SamWise1;1945590]Went there yesterday at 6 pm. Google took me to wrong place on other side of the highway. So make sure you have correct address. Greeted by a nice girl and she showed me inside. I said I wanted to choose the girl and she said OK. And we went outside. There were 5 to 6 girls. All maybe 5/10 rating to me. Looking at the others girls I chose the one who greeted my first place. At least she had better face than anyone else. Slightly plump though but cute looking. May be 6. She relaxes me and went for it. This was my first time in this this kind of saloon bar. And the whole situation made me uncomfortable. It was 10 to 15 min hard on but no success. I have to say she kept trying and was very skillful. After 20 min or so I though my I should give up. Bubba was hard but no sign of coming. When she thought I am getting uncomfortable and wanted to give up. She gave me all access To her and now I am fingering her and grabbing her ass. Still no success. Finally I sat down and changes position so that I had her head in my hand and started stroking in and her mouth. Asked her to look at me so I can get visual. And finally it happens. Longest BJ for my lifetime- 30 to 35 min. Boy I never was such tenacious women who did not want to give up.
I was so relived that I gave her 100 k more tip. Total damage was 400+100 tip.[/QUOTE]
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Couple newer places on HTP
The late night MP's are opening again on HTP, but this time to the North of HQV. The first one, on the west side, is smaller but OK. The 3 girls I saw were bigger girls. Not fat, but thick and pretty. Built like westerners, but Asian. There was one petite one but I didn't get a good look at her. The guy at the front said they would do FS, but I opted for the BBBJ for 200 K plus tip. The next one if further north on the east side. You drive about 30 feet inside the building. Here you pay 200 up front and then tip the girl. They have a wide variety here, older, young, fat, thin, and a couple that are very pretty. I have heard FS here, but I haven't had a girl let me do it yet. The girl tonight was hot but terrible at BJ. I'll be going back to the other one next time.
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Thank you
Thanks for the intell. I am looking for some places for some downtown. I have been HCM many times before but this Christmas will be first time unescorted. Looking forward to any info on cafe oms and and hot tocs. How is Bennnys' these days?
Cheers!
[QUOTE=Klmlbt6;1949010]The late night MP's are opening again on HTP, but this time to the North of HQV. The first one, on the west side, is smaller but OK. The 3 girls I saw were bigger girls. Not fat, but thick and pretty. Built like westerners, but Asian. There was one petite one but I didn't get a good look at her. The guy at the front said they would do FS, but I opted for the BBBJ for 200 K plus tip. The next one if further north on the east side. You drive about 30 feet inside the building. Here you pay 200 up front and then tip the girl. They have a wide variety here, older, young, fat, thin, and a couple that are very pretty. I have heard FS here, but I haven't had a girl let me do it yet. The girl tonight was hot but terrible at BJ. I'll be going back to the other one next time.[/QUOTE]
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Field report: 142 NPK
First time in Saigon and went to 142 NPK at the recommendation of others on this board. The "bouncer" spoke English and knew exactly what I wanted. Went up and the next-in-line started leading me to the VIP room, but I wasn't interested in her, so I went back to the "staging" room with all the other girls. None were attractive to me (pretty chubby) so I started to leave. Bouncer / mama-san told me to wait, and three minutes later he brings back two girls, one with a cute face and nice body (6 on my scale) and the other passable (5). I asked how much, he offered both for 800 k, so I said yes. Both were very talented, and the 7 especially got me really turned on with her moaning. I finished up, mama-san was super nice, they offered me water, and I was on my way.
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[QUOTE=Klmlbt6;1949010]The late night MP's are opening again on HTP, but this time to the North of HQV. The first one, on the west side, is smaller but OK. The 3 girls I saw were bigger girls. Not fat, but thick and pretty. Built like westerners, but Asian. There was one petite one but I didn't get a good look at her. The guy at the front said they would do FS, but I opted for the BBBJ for 200 K plus tip. The next one if further north on the east side. You drive about 30 feet inside the building. Here you pay 200 up front and then tip the girl. They have a wide variety here, older, young, fat, thin, and a couple that are very pretty. I have heard FS here, but I haven't had a girl let me do it yet. The girl tonight was hot but terrible at BJ. I'll be going back to the other one next time.[/QUOTE]I know where you are talking about. No idea why you are tipping on top of 200 k. That's why the prices in this city are so fucked up now.
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[QUOTE=WhiteChocula;1954288]I'm trying to plan my first visit to a BJ Bar / Hoc Toc.
How much extra, if any, is it to COF instead of CIM?
Do you tip the girl directly or always pay the "house" / mama-san?
Any days or times to avoid?
As of October, which place is known for the cute girls?
Thanks![/QUOTE]I have only been to 84 NPK, you pay the mamasan directly (200+200). I found few good looking ones there. Time, I would say morning because they are fresh and less busy. Not sure about extras.
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New report
I am done with an area, so there is a space on Pham Huu Lau in Nha Be where the girls will go fuck you at a nearby hotel on request. It looks like a coffee shop, and they used to do onsite, but not now. I have fucked three girls from there, real decent looking and nuts in bed, will do anything. Try it out.
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[QUOTE=DarthInvader;1955422]I have only been to 84 NPK, you pay the mamasan directly (200+200). I found few good looking ones there. Time, I would say morning because they are fresh and less busy. Not sure about extras.[/QUOTE]Thanks! I'll try to check out one of them on NPK and report back.
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[QUOTE=Onuevos;1955535]I am done with an area, so there is a space on Pham Huu Lau in Nha Be where the girls will go fuck you at a nearby hotel on request. It looks like a coffee shop, and they used to do onsite, but not now. I have fucked three girls from there, real decent looking and nuts in bed, will do anything. Try it out.[/QUOTE]PHL is a long street. Can you tell us are the shops on left or right of the river?
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[QUOTE=Onuevos;1955535]I am done with an area, so there is a space on Pham Huu Lau in Nha Be where the girls will go fuck you at a nearby hotel on request. It looks like a coffee shop, and they used to do onsite, but not now. I have fucked three girls from there, real decent looking and nuts in bed, will do anything. Try it out.[/QUOTE]Does the place have hammocks? I went but could not find it.
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[QUOTE=Onuevos;1955535]I am done with an area, so there is a space on Pham Huu Lau in Nha Be where the girls will go fuck you at a nearby hotel on request. It looks like a coffee shop, and they used to do onsite, but not now. I have fucked three girls from there, real decent looking and nuts in bed, will do anything. Try it out.[/QUOTE]Price? Cross Street? Thanks.
Nha Be is pretty far to go unless the prices and service are outstanding.
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[QUOTE=AmericanThief;1957772]Price? Cross Street? Thanks.
Nha Be is pretty far to go unless the prices and service are outstanding.[/QUOTE]It's on Pham Huu Lao. That's the cross street. 400 k for everything. One girl will fuck raw, but I never tried. She is super sexy, but kind of mental. Will lick your dick after you cum and clean it all off.
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[QUOTE=Onuevos;1958483]It's on Pham Huu Lao. That's the cross street. 400 k for everything. One girl will fuck raw, but I never tried. She is super sexy, but kind of mental. Will lick your dick after you cum and clean it all off.[/QUOTE]There aren't any cafes on that street in Nha Be. Are you sure you don't mean district 7? Part of that street is in D7 and part in Nha Be. HTP where it meets that street is D7 still.
Cross street means what other street is it near. Cross as in intersection or crossroads or junction.
About how old are these girls? Does this place have any distinguishing features?
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[QUOTE=Wendella;1958645]There aren't any cafes on that street in Nha Be. Are you sure you don't mean district 7? Part of that street is in D7 and part in Nha Be. HTP where it meets that street is D7 still.
Cross street means what other street is it near. Cross as in intersection or crossroads or junction.
About how old are these girls? Does this place have any distinguishing features?[/QUOTE]It's in Nha Be. Look harder. It doesn't look seedy really. Normal chairs and people get coffee. Every girl in there will go to a hotel though. The two there most recently are mid-20's. There was one in her mid-30's, but haven't seen her recently. I fucked her in the store because she normally won't do it, but we were alone and she wanted money.
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[QUOTE=Onuevos;1961299]It's in Nha Be. Look harder. It doesn't look seedy really. Normal chairs and people get coffee. Every girl in there will go to a hotel though. The two there most recently are mid-20's. There was one in her mid-30's, but haven't seen her recently. I fucked her in the store because she normally won't do it, but we were alone and she wanted money.[/QUOTE]Would be great if you had an address or another cross-street. Are there many girls in the afternoon? Other foreigners have caught on? I'm interested in over 30's. Let me know if see more.
It's nicely located far from my house so I am really interested in checking it out! Cheers!
I actually live right by NPK but have never really liked the in-store experience, although lately I am thinking it might be a good option. Any decent late-20's over 30's in those shops? Also, any luck at convincing them to do hotel meetings on the side??
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[QUOTE=Onuevos;1955535]I am done with an area, so there is a space on Pham Huu Lau in Nha Be where the girls will go fuck you at a nearby hotel on request. It looks like a coffee shop, and they used to do onsite, but not now. I have fucked three girls from there, real decent looking and nuts in bed, will do anything. Try it out.[/QUOTE]Warning to all "real" members. This report is fake.
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[QUOTE=Onuevos;1961299]It's in Nha Be. Look harder. It doesn't look seedy really. Normal chairs and people get coffee. Every girl in there will go to a hotel though. The two there most recently are mid-20's. There was one in her mid-30's, but haven't seen her recently. I fucked her in the store because she normally won't do it, but we were alone and she wanted money.[/QUOTE]This is turning out to be like the twins scenario, those who are incapable of finding it will call out saying its fake, I for one found it just like I found those twins, in fact I found this coffee shop back when I was looking for those twins, I went back this week just to see what the big deal was. And yes I confirm that it exist but my opinion regarding it is very much like my opinion about his twins.
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Went to 84 NPK today. Asked for Ly (Lee), had some good sessions with her in the past. She has changed. Terrible service, hardly no BJ as all, just a HJ. Won't be her customer anymore. There is a new girl that answered the door. Seemed eager for business. Had an exotic face and nice thin body.
Will try her next time. Didn't get her name, but won't forget her face.
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84 NPK - 1st Hot Toc Experience
Been long time did not login into ISG, even forgot my old account and have to register a new one.
Went to 84 NPK yesterday, quite standard SOP, but the girls standard seems drop.
After go in, direct come a mid-20's girl, Tram, to held & guide me to upstairs, a very small room with head washing basin (for her to wash her mouth before and after work).
Nothing WOW, everything just standard:
Cleaning, kiss nipple, tummy, nuts, and play with my little bro, then come back to nipple and go down again. While she is doing her job, I am adventuring her north and south part.
Tram looked above ave, I will rate 6. 5, body slim, maybe A cup, butt was firm.
One added point is her tongue effect quite good, especially during BBBJ, she know how to spin to pleasure man, hehe.
She tried to deep throat (as I am requesting for it), but "kungfu yet reach home", hahaha, but overall worth for money, damage just 200 K + 200 K.
Yesterday night I met another girl that fished in Zalo for a month, and of course, that is another story, and tonight will be a good night for me, good luck bro out there, hehe.
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[QUOTE=AmericanThief;1963367]Warning to all "real" members. This report is fake.[/QUOTE]Just because you can't find it, doesn't make it fake.
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[QUOTE=MutantChicken;1963443]This is turning out to be like the twins scenario, those who are incapable of finding it will call out saying its fake, I for one found it just like I found those twins, in fact I found this coffee shop back when I was looking for those twins, I went back this week just to see what the big deal was. And yes I confirm that it exist but my opinion regarding it is very much like my opinion about his twins.[/QUOTE]Guess we just have different tastes. The owners daughter is nuts, she will try to suck you after you cum and has repeatedly tried to fuck without a condom, but I won't do that. She is a good looking girl, but seems a bit off. It has a hot toc attached to it if that helps American Thief out. The hot toc is not a service place though.
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Can anyone please pin the location on google maps on Benny's? There seems to be a lot of conflicting information out there. 110 or 90? I'm here currently and would like to take a visit and will confirm the actual location.
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[QUOTE=ThomKatt;1972675]Can anyone please pin the location on google maps on Benny's? There seems to be a lot of conflicting information out there. 110 or 90? I'm here currently and would like to take a visit and will confirm the actual location.[/QUOTE]Its already been pinned a long time ago, it even has 17 reviews.
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[QUOTE=AmericanThief;1973199]Its already been pinned a long time ago, it even has 17 reviews.[/QUOTE]Try google it has 10 references on the first page. Even blind Freddy could find it.
Skip.
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[QUOTE=ThomKatt;1972675]Can anyone please pin the location on google maps on Benny's? There seems to be a lot of conflicting information out there. 110 or 90? I'm here currently and would like to take a visit and will confirm the actual location.[/QUOTE]It's across the bridge. I found it using Google maps. If you're coming from D1, it'll be on your right hand side.
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So there's some confliction information about the location. I have confirmed that 110 is the location of the one I went to, and that 90 is some store selling apple products. On other sites however, they have 90 much further down the highway and located on the other side of the highway (left hand side if you're coming from d1, perhaps this was the old location? So I'm not actually sure if the one I went to is some sort of cheap / bad imitation and the real one is that one? I wrote a detailed report in General info for HCMC.
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[QUOTE=Skippy001;1975118]DearThomKatt,
Google is your friend.
Take your hand off Mr Wobberly and start punching the keyboard. Get a grip mate.
[URL]http://afarangabroad.com/blow-job-bars-saigon/[/URL][/QUOTE]Dear ShitforBrains,
Google isn't always accurate. Go ahead and type in the address and see where it leads you. Here are two reputable sex bloggerss who also have pointed at the other address:
[URL]http://singlemanstravel.com/ben-ny-ho-chi-minh-city/[/URL]
[URL]http://rockitreports.com/review-ben-nys-ho-chi-minh-city-vietnam/[/URL]
If you could take the penis out of your mouth for one second and read what I wrote, then you'd know I confirmed the location for 110, but not sure why the other one keeps popping up. But I'm glad 2/4 of all of your fantastic contributions were to reiterate the same thing. Stop gripping your dick mate, you're losing blood to your brains.
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[QUOTE=ThomKatt;1975111]So there's some confliction information about the location. I have confirmed that 110 is the location of the one I went to, and that 90 is some store selling apple products. On other sites however, they have 90 much further down the highway and located on the other side of the highway (left hand side if you're coming from d1, perhaps this was the old location? So I'm not actually sure if the one I went to is some sort of cheap / bad imitation and the real one is that one? I wrote a detailed report in General info for HCMC.[/QUOTE]Exactly last year from today, I was there. I walked from D1. Went across the bridge. Maybe about 9 meters away you'll see it. It'll be on the right hand side. Huge sign that says Benny. Hope it's the right one you found.
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Viking has landed
Greetings to all! I have arrived in HCH. My keepers arrive tomorrow so that left me with exactly half a day to check out the place. Although I have been here many times before, I was always chaperoned.
So I set out with a motorbike cabbie in search of the ever so elusive Café oms. I longed to sit back and grope and roam and maybe more. I had good intel from this board on Minh Phung street and thereabouts. General stuff but obviously not enough. Not very specific if you consider how big everything is. MP is a very long street indeed. My cabbie made an honest effort to find me a café om--for which I tipped him generously--but we failed. We drove around for a good 40 minutes cruising up and down MP and adjacent streets, stopping to ask other cabbies, but alas. It rained on and off the whole time. Not fun. Then it started to rain for real. To those of you in the know, please provide some actionable intel, such as street numbers. PM me please. I still have tomorrow until 6 PM.
Next he took me to Benny's. It is indeed on the other side of the bridge, on DBP, about 100 yards or so on your right.
I got the next girl in line, who was quite pretty. But, although she sucked with gusto, there was a lot lacking. No small talk, not even what is your name and where you from? She let me grope freely and had a nice body, top and bottom. Her name was Niew? And she has a scar on her throat and top chest from a motorbike accident, I assume. She wore loose fitting panties and pulled them down for me. I love the way those soft panties felt, and her firm little ass. But she would not release her tits, only opening her blouse for some light groping of her hush puppies. It is kind of awkward anyway lying on a minimal massage bed.
But she basically just went to work and didn't let up until I finished about ten minutes later. She kept on sucking though until I was spent, and I give her credit for that. Nothing memorable. Except I really didn't fit on the massage bed. I am not big but obviously 6'4" is too big for this bed. I almost fell off more than once and lost the pillow at least twice. She collected 400,000 dong ahead of time and did not hassle me for tips, which was nice. I hate haggling. In fact, when I left she just kind of closed the door behind me. I was expecting her to walk me down the stairs to the ground floor but no. When I looked back she was gone. Not exactly what I would call guest friendly service. I would not repeat. Maybe NPH is better. I will head there tomorrow.
I am staying at Hai Son, where there is an MP on the 6th floor. I checked it out. 250,000 for a ticket and I did see one or two doable girls. But they don't do room service and probably only do HJ and maybe groping. But I was too tired after Benny's. The hotel is fine but I don't see any other evidence of mongering except maybe a lewd painting on the wall of a bare breasted lady. Where are the ladys of the night at?
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All is well that ends well
This afternoon I ventured out again in search of a café om. He who seeks shall find. My motorbike cabbie took me to Pham The Hien street in District 8. Over the bridge about 500 m, especially on the right hand side, in the 700 block, there a few shops. PM me for specifics. Also, across PTH, around the corner over the very small bridge you will find a few places of dubious moral repute, including a karaoke and a MP. The road soon turns into a dirt road. I don't know if I would come here alone at night. My cabbie did not know this area well, so together we explored. He waited for me, I treated him to a coffee in the shop. Best to keep cabbie with you, though yesterday a girl at Benny's called a Uber bike for me. Only 20,000 back to my hotel In district 1.
Back to my shop. Dimmed lights, chairs were two and two facing the street with the door open! We sat in the back. She was very cute, I must say and allowed free groping but not exactly inside clothes and she didn't undo blouse or anything like that. I just barely got my roaming hands inside her underwear to check out top and bottom. Meanwhile she is straddling me and dryfucking me! Very firm body upstairs and downstairs. I stayed for about an hour. Total damage 120,000 for coffee and I gave her a reasonable tip of 100,000. Good tip, according to my cabbie. On my way out I met another girl who said she could provide BJ. Maybe next time.
Hope this is helpful. Any further tips much appreciated. Café om is a different concept and a nice way to while away an hour or so. Some of the girls are very pretty indeed by Viking's high standards.
Happy holidays!
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Cafe Om
Pham The Hien street in District 8. Over the bridge about 500 m, especially on the right hand side, in the 700 block, there a few shops. PM me for specifics. Also, across PTH, around the corner over the very small bridge you will find a few places of dubious moral repute, including a karaoke and a MP. Back to my shop.
What was the name of the shop Viking. I think I need to visit ASAP.
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Christmas in hcm
Happy New Year all, I have spent a week or so in HCM and have enjoyed myself overall. My experience was spoiled in part because I had to take care of my boss, a more than pleasantly plump, 200 pound+ 5 by 4 (five feet tall, four feet wide, you know the type) femi nazi and her ass-kissing male cohorts. "Fatty says." and they all kissed ass like there was no tomorrow. I don't know who was worse, the boss or my faggy, fatbag, limpdick coworkers, eager to please the boss, wankers every last one of them.
Anyway, I did manage to get away for a bit and monger on my own. Today, for example, I just walked around district 8. My motorbike deposited me in what looked like a promising venue for successful prospecting and I spent the next few hours walking around, more or less aimlessly. But the Viking has a nose for available pussy and likes to think he can smell one at 500 feet. I stopped here and there to sample the goods and did OK. In this one place I sat with a luscious little 19 year old. Tits to kill for. She wasn't wearing a bra and let me roam freely. But her cut-off shorts were like Fort Knox—no way in. And she would go off and sit with some of the locals before returning to me. Still, a nice way to spend an hour or so. I only paid a total of 100,000 today and she gave me a friendly kick in the butt when I left. I figure I wasn't exactly overpaying. In another place, I sat with a buxom Vietnamese. She was the exact opposite. She had huge boobs but they were locked up in a solid, steel-plated bra. BUT she let me roam in her panties and dry-fucked me for what seemed like an eternity. Another girl offered FS upstairs but I declined; she was not up to my admittedly standards and, besides, I could only think of my sweet little 19-year old (who would not go to hotel or upstairs). Most of these places have an upstairs for special guests, I might add.
I finished off in NPK with a lackluster BJ. 400 K total. Girl was OK, I guess, but she pulled away when I climaxed and did not follow through like the girls I tried the other day at Benny's. I was too excited from an afternoon at café om and did not last long. There are half a dozen or so places in NPK, but the girls did not seem very enthusiastic and were all lying around in lounge chairs snoozing.
Overall HCH has a lot to offer but unlike Bangcock everything is such a hassle. I have to look and look hard and then negotiate just as hard for mediocre performance. Just getting to a venue takes time and patience. The one delight was the café oms; I enjoyed just chilling and groping. I walked around back packer area Bui Vien but could tell the MPs were not going to deliver much if anything beyond an overpriced HJ. I will venture out one more time tonight and hope for better luck. I soon head back to home in Bangcock, where I will head straight to SnowWhite and then Kasalong, where, if I feel like it, I can easily upgrade to FS.
Cheers!
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Looking for a guide
Hey. There's a direct flight from Sihanoukville to HCM now and I am thinking of flying out there for a sex binge / extended weekend.
However, the last time that I was there (in May this year) I was lost- it's too big, crowded and crazy and huge language barrier.
I am looking for someone to hang out with who knows where the good spots (hot toc, massage parlors and brothels) are. I can pay for pussy+booze if you hang out with me and show me the good spots. Prefer a foreigner / expat or viet who speaks good English.
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I'm there on and off beginning Jan 3. PM me and we can meet.
[QUOTE=TonyIndian;1980179]Hey. There's a direct flight from Sihanoukville to HCM now and I am thinking of flying out there for a sex binge / extended weekend.
However, the last time that I was there (in May this year) I was lost- it's too big, crowded and crazy and huge language barrier.
I am looking for someone to hang out with who knows where the good spots (hot toc, massage parlors and brothels) are. I can pay for pussy+booze if you hang out with me and show me the good spots. Prefer a foreigner / expat or viet who speaks good English.[/QUOTE]
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Cafe Om
[QUOTE=Nomes2015;1978393]Pham The Hien street in District 8. Over the bridge about 500 m, especially on the right hand side, in the 700 block, there a few shops. PM me for specifics. Also, across PTH, around the corner over the very small bridge you will find a few places of dubious moral repute, including a karaoke and a MP. Back to my shop.
What was the name of the shop Viking. I think I need to visit ASAP.[/QUOTE]Hi bro,
Mind to share the full address or name of Cafe Om to me?
Thank you.
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[QUOTE=TonyIndian;1980179]Hey. There's a direct flight from Sihanoukville to HCM now and I am thinking of flying out there for a sex binge / extended weekend.
However, the last time that I was there (in May this year) I was lost- it's too big, crowded and crazy and huge language barrier.
I am looking for someone to hang out with who knows where the good spots (hot toc, massage parlors and brothels) are. I can pay for pussy+booze if you hang out with me and show me the good spots. Prefer a foreigner / expat or viet who speaks good English.[/QUOTE]Haha local here with plenty of exp (decent Eng too I would say).
Call me if you still need someone to show you around [blue][Telephone Number deleted by Admin][/blue].
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[QUOTE=Minmax321;1980588]Hi bro,
Mind to share the full address or name of Cafe Om to me?
Thank you.[/QUOTE]The address is quite messy over there mate.
Keep strolling around Pham The Hien. All cafes with coconut trees in front are providing "om" service. Everything is negotiable anyway so good luck!
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[QUOTE=FuckyBuck;1984404]The address is quite messy over there mate.
Keep strolling around Pham The Hien. All cafes with coconut trees in front are providing "om" service. Everything is negotiable anyway so good luck![/QUOTE]What are om services? Do you mean Only Massage (O. M)?
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[QUOTE=TonyIndian;1980179]Hey. There's a direct flight from Sihanoukville to HCM now and I am thinking of flying out there for a sex binge / extended weekend.
However, the last time that I was there (in May this year) I was lost- it's too big, crowded and crazy and huge language barrier.
I am looking for someone to hang out with who knows where the good spots (hot toc, massage parlors and brothels) are. I can pay for pussy+booze if you hang out with me and show me the good spots. Prefer a foreigner / expat or viet who speaks good English.[/QUOTE]Too bad, I should've seen your post earlier.
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"Om" is a Vietnamese word which translate to "hug" or "to hold onto somebody".
Thus cafe om= drink coffee and hold / touch a girl at the same time.
[QUOTE=BlueBaron;1985160]What are om services? Do you mean Only Massage (O. M)?[/QUOTE]
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Hot Tocs
More hot tocs on SVH. I found 2 new hot tocs (these were not there last year). One at 718 svh with some sexy ladies inside and another one 2 doors down (next to the Korean restaurant). Same price 1. 3 m Vnd. Have fun!
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Thanks bro
[QUOTE=FuckyBuck;1984404]The address is quite messy over there mate.
Keep strolling around Pham The Hien. All cafes with coconut trees in front are providing "om" service. Everything is negotiable anyway so good luck![/QUOTE]Thanks. Will go and explore myself.
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[QUOTE=FuckyBuck;1984404]The address is quite messy over there mate.
Keep strolling around Pham The Hien. All cafes with coconut trees in front are providing "om" service. Everything is negotiable anyway so good luck![/QUOTE]I have been going there for a few years there was one where you would go upstairs and for 100.000 vnd yuo get BBBJ but every time I go back they say no upstair Police must be 3 years since they have stopped.
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Stuck and feeling dry in Soc Trang
I've been here for 2 weeks and can't find a hot toc joint like Benny's I've been hearing so much about. Does anyone have any recommendations anywhere down here? I'll also be travelling to Saigon after New Years, so I'm definitely paying Benny's a visit.
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Found one
[QUOTE=TripScale;1990636]I've been here for 2 weeks and can't find a hot toc joint like Benny's I've been hearing so much about. Does anyone have any recommendations anywhere down here? I'll also be travelling to Saigon after New Years, so I'm definitely paying Benny's a visit.[/QUOTE]After a little bit of mongering about, I found a place, it's not a hot toc, but it's something. This AMP is called "Thuong Hai" located in Soc Trang and the experience was new. First, I had to drive by it a couple of times to get the jitters out of the way since there was about 6-7 males in the front, later to find out that they were the staff. When you walk in, they have 4 posters for their menu behind the reception giving the price and service that they provide. I didn't look at the first two, just the third and fourth option which was 150,000 and 190,000. Difference was the most expensive has hot rocks involved, so I opted for the third option which starts the VIP room. The room has a sauna for one, urinal, tub, sink, television and the massage table. After the boring stuff, she asks "how much you give me for massage here?" I gave her 3 fingers and told her 300 k and she did the BJJ with the nipple licking and ball tickling. Overall, I spent about 450 k. Less than $25 USD for a 40 minute session and mouth finish, I say that's a win!
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Earlier this afternoon I drove from my place (in Tan Binh, near the airport) way the hell over to D8 and cruised the length of Pham The Hien. I didn't see much of anything. I only saw one shady looking cafe shop on the left hand side which was totally dark inside, so don't know if this was one of those places. I also didn't see any with coconut tress in front. Not finding any action I went to my usual HTGD spot on Hoang Sa. Both Truong Sa and Hoang Sa (streets that run along the canal) have loads of HTGDs. I always pay 300 k (BBBJ, tossing salad, even 69 ed with the girl once.) I would like to try the Cafe Om experience but still need help locating a good one.
[QUOTE=FuckyBuck;1984404]The address is quite messy over there mate.
Keep strolling around Pham The Hien. All cafes with coconut trees in front are providing "om" service. Everything is negotiable anyway so good luck![/QUOTE]
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Cafe om
[QUOTE=DjWhyTee;1997770]Earlier this afternoon I drove from my place (in Tan Binh, near the airport) way the hell over to D8 and cruised the length of Pham The Hien. I didn't see much of anything. I only saw one shady looking cafe shop on the left hand side which was totally dark inside, so don't know if this was one of those places. I also didn't see any with coconut tress in front. Not finding any action I went to my usual HTGD spot on Hoang Sa. Both Truong Sa and Hoang Sa (streets that run along the canal) have loads of HTGDs. I always pay 300 k (BBBJ, tossing salad, even 69 ed with the girl once.) I would like to try the Cafe Om experience but still need help locating a good one.[/QUOTE]My driver brought me to many of those places a few weeks ago. They were all on Pham The Hien street. Luckily, I wrote down all the addresses of them. He took me to many on that street, and he also took me around the city to some other places where they have the cafe oms. The cafes on that street are the kind where you sit down and a girl will sit with you, or I think it is better to say on you. The man who wrote about them made a mistake. None of them have coconut trees in front of them. But they all have potted plants, and the potted plants are usually palm plants. Not trees, more like bushes.
There is a market near these places.
I hope this helps.
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Basic guide. What to look for when searching for Hot Tocs and Cafe Oms
Very interested to return to HCMC after many yrs. My first trip was rather uneventful as I had wasted many days in search of Hot Tocs and Café Oms. Only able to find about 2-3 during my last trip and all had below quality girls.
So what are the best ways to look for and spot a Hot Toc and Café Om as I assume the approach would be different.
Also, from what I read so far, the prices varies. Hot Toc BJ goes for about 200 k for girl and another 200 k for room.
Café Om seems to be about 100 k for groping only--do they also do BJ on site for 200 k?
Thanks.
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Benny's
Just a quick question.
Don't know if the Bennys BJ hot toc mostly written about here is the same Benny I had visited several yrs ago. I looked at the map for the place and location is different now. It is now on a major street but the Benny I remember was off in a small st branching off from a bigger street. So could be 2 different venues.
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[QUOTE=DjWhyTee;1997770]Not finding any action I went to my usual HTGD spot on Hoang Sa. Both Truong Sa and Hoang Sa (streets that run along the canal) have loads of HTGDs. I always pay 300 k (BBBJ, tossing salad, even 69 ed with the girl once.) I would like to try the Cafe Om experience but still need help locating a good one.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tip.
Just looked at a map and saw that both Truong Sa and Hoang Sa running along the river / canal is fairly long. Can you narrow down the area a bit, between what streets should I start my search and where does it end.
Is 300 k the all-in standard price in this area. Was it 100 k for room and 200 k for the girl?
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Hey,
If you decide to go to these places, please please please don't pay more than 3-400 k. I've been frequenting various spots along Truong and Huong Sa for 3 years now and never pay over 300 k and would rather not have the girls start expecting more. I give it all to the girl after she is done and she takes her share and gives the rest to the boss. Just walk in and ask for a "masa" and she will show up upstairs. Both streets (Truong Sa and Huong Sa) have quiet a few of these places. Look between Pham Van Hai and Trang Quang Dieu. Just pick one of the streets and slowly cruise along it. The Hot Tocs offering these services are easy to spot. The one I used to frequent a lot was on Huong Sa right before the train tracks. Now the girls here aren't always as "hot" as on NPK but they are cheaper. Let me know how you fare!
[QUOTE=Freezone;2000631]Thanks for the tip.
Just looked at a map and saw that both Truong Sa and Hoang Sa running along the river / canal is fairly long. Can you narrow down the area a bit, between what streets should I start my search and where does it end.
Is 300 k the all-in standard price in this area. Was it 100 k for room and 200 k for the girl?[/QUOTE]
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My trip to HCMC.
Thanks to the detailed report by Viking, my trip to HCMC was a lot more interesting than my previous trip.
As soon as you land, (and when you leave), the time between the plane and your hotel can easily be 3-4 hours! The immigration lines both ways are insane and if you are doing the visa on arrival, hours will tick by waiting for them to give you the stamp ad then standing in line again for immigration. Then there is the traffic (even on weekends and odd times). So one needs to be prepared and have a little Zen.
I decided to get things started with the cafe om experience and ended up spending a few lovely hours at different shops on Pham The Hein. The easiest way to recognize these places is that they have an exterior room / entry area and an interior room that is not visible from the street. In the entry area you will see some of the motorbikes of the local customers and a couple of big potted plants. At the entrance to the interior room also you will see the potted plants. So easy to spot them.
Cafe om experience is more about making out than sex, at least that's what my experience was. Depending on the girl and chemistry can actively participate in the make out session or just be passive. Most of the body (except the pussy itself) are accessible and how much ever I tried, it seems like they won't do any kissing on the mouth or BBBJ on the premises. One of them was willing to go to the hotel. So seems possible to get sex but I was too far away from the hotel, so didn't entertain the idea. One of the sessions I had was very good like a high school GF who didn't want to have sex but. All in all a very enjoyable experience for all of $7-8 for an hour including a beer. I think if they added a Benny's happy ending for an additional fee even in the bathroom (a la Sol in BKK), I think these would be mobbed! If you can speak a little Viet, I think you can have an even better experience as the girls don't seem to know any English.
After the motor having been revved up, I went to Benny's. Finding it was a nightmare and somehow Google maps was totally confused about which side and where it was. While I started with the next girl in rotation and paid for it, as I was entering the room, saw a cutie that had a nice set of tits on her. Asked specifically for her and after a litter bit of back and forth, got her. She turned out to have a great body, nice see cups and a round ass and allowed me to roam pretty much anywhere. However the position is awkward to do much with her boobs but I got to finger her and get her wet and with all that excitement, I didn't last too long even though it seems like it is a clinical operation, I guess you can get a little lucky sometimes.
In the night, a friend of mine who knows some locals ended up getting hold of 2 non pro girls with whom e had a nice dinner followed by a Korean style karaoke place was a lot of fun. The girl I had from the karaoke place ended up being fantastic and we made out like a long lost GF! She spoke great English as well. Drank a lot (between the 5 of us we finished a liter each of Bombay Sapphire and a JW Red, with the non-pro girls hardly drinking) and ended up taking her out from the place and we went to a small bar in District 1 culminating in a great few hours in the hotel room as I had to catch a very early flight. This was probably quite a bit more expensive but my friend took care of it, so don't know the exact amount.
I was also told by the local girls that Maxim is a great place where it seems more like a Cafe om experience in the night but with take out. I guess it is like a typical juice bar type of experience. They seem to recommend it highly!
Moral of the story. Cafe om a must try and easy to navigate. Benny is YMMV and a bit clinical. If you can, both in terms of contacts and budget, karaoke place is well worth it. Unfortunately I can't help in terms of the location etc as I have no idea. I believe it was in District 3 and a name like Vijs or Vin's or some such. Finally Maxim's might be worth a try. Happy hunting.
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Thanks DJWHY and Sad Sam for the feedback.
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Full Service
I was wondering if there is any more of specific FS locations. I know there are a lot of hoc tocs and massage but I was looking for more of a back to a hotel room or even at the actual place brothel. Any of you guys can please introduce me to the more local FS providers in Saigon.
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There's one on Truong Sa right before the train tracks. They offer FS right there in the room. I had my girl bent over the table going hard at it. I paid 500 k (she asked for 600 but my Vietnamese is decent and I was able to get her down to 500).
[QUOTE=Sayoma;2028043]I was wondering if there is any more of specific FS locations. I know there are a lot of hoc tocs and massage but I was looking for more of a back to a hotel room or even at the actual place brothel. Any of you guys can please introduce me to the more local FS providers in Saigon.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=DjWhyTee;2046452]There's one on Truong Sa right before the train tracks. They offer FS right there in the room. I had my girl bent over the table going hard at it. I paid 500 k (she asked for 600 but my Vietnamese is decent and I was able to get her down to 500).[/QUOTE]Moving west with the traffic along Truong Sa is it before the tracks or after? I recall there is a mural on that corner, near the sign for Dung's Gym 50 m along Mai Van Ngoc. What kind of signage does the place have, 'Hot Toc' 'Goi Dau' etc?
I tried a hot toc nearer the COOP, paid 300 k as advised, but not impressed with the quality or service compared to 400 k elsewhere.
Was the 500 k the total charge or plus a ticket?
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My bad man, the place I'm talking about is actually on Hoang Sa (the street on the other side of the canal going towards D1). Right before the train tracks on the right. It's got the typical HTGD signage.
[QUOTE=MeoDen;2047430]Moving west with the traffic along Truong Sa is it before the tracks or after? I recall there is a mural on that corner, near the sign for Dung's Gym 50 m along Mai Van Ngoc. What kind of signage does the place have, 'Hot Toc' 'Goi Dau' etc?
I tried a hot toc nearer the COOP, paid 300 k as advised, but not impressed with the quality or service compared to 400 k elsewhere.
Was the 500 k the total charge or plus a ticket?[/QUOTE]
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I just drove by it on my way home from work. It's got a white sign above the building with the words "Kim Yen" written in red text.
[QUOTE=DjWhyTee;2048404]My bad man, the place I'm talking about is actually on Hoang Sa (the street on the other side of the canal going towards D1). Right before the train tracks on the right. It's got the typical HTGD signage.[/QUOTE]
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Pham The Hien locations
Thanks for the earlier posts on the quiet bars on Pham the Hien. In looking the area over P.
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[QUOTE=DjWhyTee;2048754]I just drove by it on my way home from work. It's got a white sign above the building with the words "Kim Yen" written in red text.[/QUOTE]OK, got it. Many thanks.
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Pham The Hien Location
[QUOTE=ILoveChicas;2048833]Thanks for the earlier posts on the quiet bars on Pham the Hien. In looking the area over P.[/QUOTE]There are 5-6 cafe om in Pham The Hien street. They are quite easy to recognise. Have fun.
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Passed by that way again today and took note of the address. It's 1073 Truong Sa. 500 k total damage, boom boom in the room. Pay all money to the girl after you unload. Share your experiences!
[QUOTE=MeoDen;2049071]OK, got it. Many thanks.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=DjWhyTee;2049524]Passed by that way again today and took note of the address. It's 1073 Truong Sa. 500 k total damage, boom boom in the room. Pay all money to the girl after you unload. Share your experiences![/QUOTE]Thanks. It was easy to find the location from your previous posts.
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Kim Yen HTGD
1 pm in afternoon. I just got back from the HTGD. Very easy to find.
Picked a short girl, not a great looker but decent see cup boobs. Her name is My 25 from Mekong.
Upstairs in the room she wanted 800 k for FS. 200 for the house 600 for her. I declined and just took a BJ for 300 plus the house fee.
Service was OK, massage was as expected, average. Boobs awesome, firm and natural. Happy to drop her knickers but would not let me go knuckle deep.
Overall a reasonable service but not fantastic.
The other girls there looked well past their sell by date. Is there a better standard later in the day, anybody have any more info?
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[QUOTE=Minmax321;1980588]Hi bro,
Mind to share the full address or name of Cafe Om to me?
Thank you.[/QUOTE]I just posted this in another thread, but this is the info you need: Those places are all in the area on Pham The Hien from about high 400's to about low 700's on that street. Maybe five located on right side of street as you ride toward the market (the even number side of the street), but one is on the left side, same side of street as market. These places no BJ.
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I have a bit of a history with this place. Before, it was owned by a different woman and I went there for around 1.5 years, always had the same girl who took fucking great care of me for 300 k. This was all before the new owner took over and made it into a FS spot (before FS was never available). I have been there twice since it turned into a FS spot and yes, most of the girls the now are either (a) fat, (b), old or (c) both! There is 1 younger girl there (probably the one you had) and yes, she is the best looking one three from my experience. Never had her upstairs though. The two times I have been there I had FS for 500 k (after bargaining her down from 600). The only thing I don't like about this place now is the talking that must take place before the service, they always try and ask for more than they are worth and the one time I turned the girl down for 700 k FS and settled for a 300 k BJ she turned into a ***** who wouldn't even let me touch her. I know of at least one other spot in that same area that does FS and loads of other HTGD which offer BJ. Kim Yen is a good spot if you're looking for FS in the room, just be prepared to negotiate the price for what you want.
[QUOTE=Nomes2015;2051032]1 pm in afternoon. I just got back from the HTGD. Very easy to find.
Picked a short girl, not a great looker but decent see cup boobs. Her name is My 25 from Mekong.
Upstairs in the room she wanted 800 k for FS. 200 for the house 600 for her. I declined and just took a BJ for 300 plus the house fee.
Service was OK, massage was as expected, average. Boobs awesome, firm and natural. Happy to drop her knickers but would not let me go knuckle deep.
Overall a reasonable service but not fantastic.
The other girls there looked well past their sell by date. Is there a better standard later in the day, anybody have any more info?[/QUOTE]
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112 npk
Greetings to all.
Yesterday went down to 112 Nguyen Phi Khanh (NPK) street. For the newbies, NPK street in a one lane, one way street running east to west. Put this in your google map app 10°47'30.5"and 106°41'44.5"E. It is on the right side of the street. If you walk up to the establishment, there is a guy there that will slide the door open for you to walk in. If you are on a scooter, just ride up to the sidewalk then on to a small ramp straight into the front. Be careful not to hit the ladies sitting right there.
There were several young ladies there. Picked Ms. Bich (pronounced like bit), shoulder length black hair, 5'4, beautiful face, see-cup, medium built, mid-20's.
Went upstairs, she wiped me down and started to give me a tongue bath and kissed me all over. Even got pleasantly surprised by some rimming. She undressed partially to allow full access to her nice body. Those breasts were really nice to suck. Very friendly and open to anything asked; even asked me if I wanted to titty fuck her. Then she really went to town with the BBBJ finishing with a CIM. And she kept on going for another 5 minutes or so. Fantastic service.
200,000 d to the house and 200,00 for her time. I tipped her nicely for such an awesome service. Asked her if she is interested in spending an overnighter at my hotel, but she can't due to her job. Did not asked if she provide any other services there.
WIR: Hell yeah. Highly recommended.
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Hot Toc 42 Hoai
2-44 E Vo Thi Sau, District 1 corners with Thach Thi Thanh.
Nice looking ladies there in tight dresses. Only offering HJ. Good haircut and massage if you need them.
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[QUOTE=DjWhyTee;2049524]Passed by that way again today and took note of the address. It's 1073 Truong Sa. 500 k total damage, boom boom in the room. Pay all money to the girl after you unload. Share your experiences![/QUOTE]I just spent 2 weeks in Saigon. Some notes about current pricing and my experiences. Prices mentioned are inclusive of any payments to girls, fees to the houses and tips I. E. Total paid. I think almost all of the venues have already been mentioned on this forum.
Kim Yen had 4 women, one being the mamasan I presume although they all could have been mamas. Quick agreement to 300 k BJ upstairs but I had no interest. I found 4 similar places nearby, but all stocked with mature fatties. I had previously tried one on the other side of the canal up from the COOP (300 k) and found it unerotic. You can find shops like these on almost every street in Saigon, like NTT.
For that matter I had a thorough look at NPK (about 7 shops, all now asking 400 k) and found current talent pretty poor. Even the line up at Tuan Tam was unenthusiastic. I did get decent service from one new girl, but overall the vibe was down. Afterwards I walked over to Thien Ly at PN and it appears to be closed (was 900 k FS, school uniforms). Several hot girls around the cafe oms near the bridge at night however.
Re. Cafe oms I was dragged into Arabica on SVH one afternoon. Too loud and bright for me, silly girls doing the DJ thing, hostesses in denim shorts and fishnets. Evenings might be better. Plenty of hot girls however. Reportedly available but no confirmed kill.
AT LHP I didn't notice if China is still open. Kieu Moi seems to have replaced Tops from across the hem. They are now asking 1,300 k (as reported here) FS, the spartan rooms have massage plinths, not beds, and poor showers (access by lift). Hai Yen is also charging 1,300 k for similar accommodation. As to the women in these places, they are just not worth it. Mid-20's to early 30's, so much make up they look photoshopped in real life. Some are definitely doable but the simple fact is that they are sitting there waiting for a message on their phones to meet a punter in a 50 k ST hotel for a 400-600 k fee. At least 600 k of the Kieu Moi charge goes to the entrepreneurs, which is of no benefit to the girls or the punters.
Incidentally, on my last two visits I have tried to book a room at the desk in Ka Thy and have been refused. They told me 'no room'. Maybe all the rooms were already occupied by girls? Or perhaps they are worried about too much attention from foreigners on the internet following the Lin ShiSha debacle?
Hoa Ha Lan at PN is still a better deal than the FS shops at LHP. Comfortable, spacious bedrooms, good towels fans aircon, about 15 women in various ao dais. Price was 900 k now 1,000 k. The women are well-presented but not hot.
These prices are of course considered absurd by locals, given the quality of the women. A local contact took me over to Go Vap one evening and we visited three FS venues where the price was 300 k (100 k ticket, 200 k to girl). The area was full of them. The rooms were surprisingly ok although not luxurious, with massage plinths, showers and baths. But no fish bowl selection, so you got to see one woman at a time. Consequently I saw very few, and would put the quality at about the average of a BV hostess bar I. E. The heavy-thighed type you sometimes see walking behind a foreigner to a ST hotel, not the hottest younger girls who pull you in to buy drinks.
The small MPs on BV seem to be pushing more for 150 k / hour (I have only paid 100 k). For topless HJ relief with kissing I paid 100+300 k, fully nude BJ 100+500 k. There are some cute girls. DV is being torn up and resurfaced. With the rains this really put a damper on the MP business, but the small beer shops were still full of cute Vietnamese girls every night. Unfortunately they don't work in the bars.
To put these prices in the perspective of regional Vietnam, I got a BJ in a hammock in a ca phe om in Di An for 100 k plus 40 k for drinks. In My Tho a BJ in a cafe om was 150 k including my coffee. I'm fairly sure I was charged a foreigner supplement, as my guide told me it should have been 100+20 k. FS price in SD, LG, LC, tx etc. Is still 200 k for foreigners, although there is an upward pressure on prices in sd with some girls charging 250 k.
Finally one afternoon in the park at PNL a hot babe maybe around 28 yo planted herself on the bench opposite mine and lifted her skirt by way of advertising. No doubt she was wearing a thong but the illusion was impressive. Nicely dressed with good hair and a bright smile. Just as I was wondering if I should approach her a group of language students clustered round me and semi-blocked my view. Soon after a foreign guy in his late 50's joined her. They discussed something on his telephone (price?) and left separately but perhaps to meet at a hotel. My guess is that she was using wechat to hook up in the park.
Many options and opportunities in Saigon.
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Couldn't agree more with you Meo Den. 200 k should be the price for FS not HJ.
Last time I went to NPK even I was a newbie in HCM I succeeded to pay 250 k and you tell me it s 400 k now! S..t!
I tried to MP you but it isn't possible?
What do you mean by SD?
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[QUOTE=SimplyTheBest;2061085]Couldn't agree more with you Meo Den. 200 k should be the price for FS not HJ.
Last time I went to NPK even I was a newbie in HCM I succeeded to pay 250 k and you tell me it s 400 k now! S..t!
I tried to MP you but it isn't possible?[/QUOTE]Yes, the NPK prices have doubled in the last 5 years. And note that punters often post that they pay more on top.
No need to over-advertise the relatively unspoiled regions. I mention regional prices just to give a sense of the current going rate. Of course Saigon and tourist rates will be higher, but it's getting out of control.
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Addresses of HTGDs on Hoang Sa and Truong Sa.
All of these places are 300 k for BBBJ and two them FS can be had from 5-700 k. Use Google Maps if you don't know where Truong Sa and Huong Sa are! They are the street that run along the camel.
Address on Hoang Sa:
59/5 A (look for the red lights inside).
855 (look for the red sign that reads "Massage Mat", park you bike inside. FS available here for 500 k.
859 (almost directly next door from the above spot. Two girls work there. You can have FS with one for 500 or both at the same time for 700-1 mil).
Addresses in Truong Sa:
1006 (look for the small white sign with the usual HTGD writing in red text).
1020 (very similar signage to the above).
1416 A (almost at the very end of Truong Sa, it's just one middle aged lady. You could probably get a BJ for 250 k but I always gave 300 k).
Have fun boys! Report back!
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Thanks mate how would you rate the quality of the girls there? Compared to NPK or generally speaking?
I'm not a big fan of middle aged ladies.
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Quality. I've never had anything I'd rate above a 7 on a scale of 1-10. Most of them aren't the cutest but that generally is of no concern to me. They still get the job done!
[QUOTE=SimplyTheBest;2065590]Thanks mate how would you rate the quality of the girls there? Compared to NPK or generally speaking?
I'm not a big fan of middle aged ladies.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=DjWhyTee;2065536]859 (almost directly next door from the above spot. Two girls work there. You can have FS with one for 500 or both at the same time for ![/QUOTE]I'm super interested in this but concerned about the chemistry. Any reviews?
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I've only done it once with both of them. They always offer it to me but I always declined except for one time when I was super stoned and there and I thought "fuck it, why not?" The taller thinner one is definitely freakier than the shorter one (one time when I had the tall one alone she let me put it in her butt.) The taller one is into girls but the shorter one isn't so it was funny watching the taller one keep trying to touch and hump the other one and she kept hitting her away, I was laughing during this. Anyways, at this spot I have found that pretty much everything is on the table here, the girls are very very nice and welcomed me every time I went. I was always very respectful towards them. One time I didn't have enough to pay for FS but she let me do it anyway and I went to the ATM right after and got the money and went back and paid her. Just don't be a dick about anything and the experience is great. First time I paid a mil for both, they said if I wanted to do it again they would only charge me 700. One more bit of info. The tall girl will try and fuck you without a condom, so just make sure you tell her "bao" (Vietnamese for condom). They have plenty of rubbers there to provide you but just let her know you want to wear one (you're a god damn moron if you don't!
[QUOTE=LetThemEatSake;2066200]I'm super interested in this but concerned about the chemistry. Any reviews?[/QUOTE]
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That's funny! Thanks for the anecdote.
[QUOTE=DjWhyTee;2066465]I've only done it once with both of them. They always offer it to me but I always declined except for one time when I was super stoned and there and I thought "fuck it, why not?" The taller thinner one is definitely freakier than the shorter one (one time when I had the tall one alone she let me put it in her butt.) The taller one is into girls but the shorter one isn't so it was funny watching the taller one keep trying to touch and hump the other one and she kept hitting her away, I was laughing during this. Anyways, at this spot I have found that pretty much everything is on the table here, the girls are very very nice and welcomed me every time I went. I was always very respectful towards them. One time I didn't have enough to pay for FS but she let me do it anyway and I went to the ATM right after and got the money and went back and paid her. Just don't be a dick about anything and the experience is great. First time I paid a mil for both, they said if I wanted to do it again they would only charge me 700. One more bit of info. The tall girl will try and fuck you without a condom, so just make sure you tell her "bao" (Vietnamese for condom). They have plenty of rubbers there to provide you but just let her know you want to wear one (you're a god damn moron if you don't![/QUOTE]
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Canal
I go look at these places by the canal on both sides, but do not see any shops with cute girls. IMHO there are better options for BJ and or FS, at similar prices or cheaper.
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[QUOTE=MikHcmc;1189908]Lets use this thread as a guide to where to find the BJ Cafes, Hot Toc's etc.
Since there was only a general thread which users had to sift through inorder to find what they were interested in, Lets use this one to make it easier to sort through and find what you are looking for.[/QUOTE]I'm Vietnamese and traveling to SG now. The road Nguyen Phi Khanh is the best for BBBJ. The other place is overpriced or handjob factory or bad service.
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To DjWhyTee
Sorry mate, maybe you try to argue with me, I can't see your post. What I said maybe was too harsh and I offered no alternative to justify myself. I see some BJ cafes on Vuon Lai street, I think its Tan Phu district. I see more on QL 1 A and Phan Van Hon west of airport. Hoc Mon district has BJ cafes and hot tocs on nearly every street, even many FS places. Max price in all these is 200, the BJ cafes usually 150 or so. Go try to see girls in these places, let me know how you think. Some like older girls who give better service, which I understand. My own preference is for the younger prettier ones even if service is not top notch. So yes ok I understand I shouldn't judge another's preference because it differs from mine. Better is in eye (and groin) of the beholder. Your reports are excellent and fun to read, so thanks for them.
One more, the website girls, those are always younger, prettier than what I saw on the canal. Price varies from 300 up to some as high as 3 million. But at 500 to 800 or so, I'm sure they're going to be younger / prettier than any canal shop has.
Again, apologies. I hope my tips go some way to soothing things.
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[QUOTE=Tranhiep;2068664]I'm Vietnamese and traveling to SG now. The road Nguyen Phi Khanh is the best for BBBJ. The other place is overpriced or handjob factory or bad service.[/QUOTE]I wonder how much you pay there as a Vietnamese.
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Hey Baron,
Yes I did try and argue a little because you offered no alternatives but after reading your response I see you are a man of sense and I am very grateful for the information you have provided me. So absolutely no hard feelings at all mate! Unfortunately I'm up in Haiphong for the next couple of months but when I return to Saigon I'll definitely check out these places you mention. Thanks for the tips!
BTW. You got any good Intel about Haiphong? LOL.
[QUOTE=BlueBaron;2068711]Sorry mate, maybe you try to argue with me, I can't see your post. What I said maybe was too harsh and I offered no alternative to justify myself. I see some BJ cafes on Vuon Lai street, I think its Tan Phu district. I see more on QL 1 A and Phan Van Hon west of airport. Hoc Mon district has BJ cafes and hot tocs on nearly every street, even many FS places. Max price in all these is 200, the BJ cafes usually 150 or so. Go try to see girls in these places, let me know how you think. Some like older girls who give better service, which I understand. My own preference is for the younger prettier ones even if service is not top notch. So yes ok I understand I shouldn't judge another's preference because it differs from mine. Better is in eye (and groin) of the beholder. Your reports are excellent and fun to read, so thanks for them.
One more, the website girls, those are always younger, prettier than what I saw on the canal. Price varies from 300 up to some as high as 3 million. But at 500 to 800 or so, I'm sure they're going to be younger / prettier than any canal shop has.
Again, apologies. I hope my tips go some way to soothing things.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=DjWhyTee;2069004]Hey Baron,
You got any good Intel about Haiphong? LOL.[/QUOTE]Hi DjWhyTee,
See my info about Hai Phong in the section "Other areas". Plenty of options available.
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[QUOTE=DjWhyTee;2069004]
BTW. You got any good Intel about Haiphong? LOL.[/QUOTE]None, sorry. Never went there.
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"Many "Tam Quat" on NGO Gia Tu (go left a the end of Van Cao), 80 K entry, 200 K girl. ".
Hey man, I made this little drive today and saw two places exactly how you described above. I didn't go down the road too far before I turned back (my first time over there and didn't want to get lost). The two places I passed had signed that said "tam quat cafe" and both places also read 80 k (like you described) on the signs. So I'm guessing I can get me a cafe fe sua the here followed by a massage? You experienced these places yet? I'm curious as to the exact procedure. Thanks for the advice man!
[QUOTE=OneUw84;2069292]Hi DjWhyTee,
See my info about Hai Phong in the section "Other areas". Plenty of options available.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=DjWhyTee;2069864]"Many "Tam Quat" on NGO Gia Tu (go left a the end of Van Cao), 80 K entry, 200 K girl. ".
Hey man, I made this little drive today and saw two places exactly how you described above. I didn't go down the road too far before I turned back (my first time over there and didn't want to get lost). The two places I passed had signed that said "tam quat cafe" and both places also read 80 k (like you described) on the signs. So I'm guessing I can get me a cafe fe sua the here followed by a massage? You experienced these places yet? I'm curious as to the exact procedure. Thanks for the advice man![/QUOTE]It is not easy to get lost there: it is a straight road. Anyway, there are about 10 of these places on this road and so far I tried 2 of them. Both modus operandi are the same. Pay VND80.000 and be escorted to a small (shabby) cubical, get naked and be accompanied by a masseuse, which will perform what I call the back drums: hitting your back with their fists. What I mean is, don't expect too much from the massage itself. After a minute of 15 she will start to play with your private parts until you're finished. You pay her VND200 K and that's it. If that's what you looking for, go for it. If you need some better service, interaction and clean and decent massages, try the other options I posted. I never had coffee there (better go somewhere else for a coffee).
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[QUOTE=OneUw84;2071651]It is not easy to get lost there: it is a straight road. Anyway, there are about 10 of these places on this road and so far I tried 2 of them. Both modus operandi are the same. Pay VND80.000 and be escorted to a small (shabby) cubical, get naked and be accompanied by a masseuse, which will perform what I call the back drums: hitting your back with their fists. What I mean is, don't expect too much from the massage itself. After a minute of 15 she will start to play with your private parts until you're finished. You pay her VND200 K and that's it. If that's what you looking for, go for it. If you need some better service, interaction and clean and decent massages, try the other options I posted. I never had coffee there (better go somewhere else for a coffee).[/QUOTE]Correct me if I m wrong so you pay 280 k for only a HJ? What s the point?
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[QUOTE=SimplyTheBest;2071828]Correct me if I m wrong so you pay 280 k for only a HJ? What s the point?[/QUOTE]Yes, correct. 280 for a HJ and a short massage. The point? Well, its a quick release and you know exactly what you get: hassle free, no discussions about tips. Plus, most of the girls are interested in some more cash. This will have to take place outside of the parlour.
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[QUOTE=OneUw84;2071944]Yes, correct. 280 for a HJ and a short massage. The point? Well, its a quick release and you know exactly what you get: hassle free, no discussions about tips. Plus, most of the girls are interested in some more cash. This will have to take place outside of the parlour.[/QUOTE]Personally I pay for what I can't do alone thus I never paid for a HJ since I can do it better myself and for free. I pay for BJ and FS.
For the price you mention it s possible to get BBBJCIM according to many reports here.
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Unless you're willing to tell me where in Haiphong this is possible you shouldn't speak.
[QUOTE=SimplyTheBest;2072052]Personally I pay for what I can't do alone thus I never paid for a HJ since I can do it better myself and for free. I pay for BJ and FS.
For the price you mention it s possible to get BBBJCIM according to many reports here.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=DjWhyTee;2072258]Unless you're willing to tell me where in Haiphong this is possible you shouldn't speak.[/QUOTE]Too bad I can't MP you then you will know.
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[QUOTE=DjWhyTee;2065536]
859 (almost directly next door from the above spot. Two girls work there. You can have FS with one for 500 or both at the same time for 700-1 mil).
[/QUOTE]Any guidance on the hours of operation?
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I've been there early afternoon, late afternoon and evening on weekdays and on the weekend. They have always been open when I go there. Sometimes when I went the door would be locked but just stand there and knock on it. Most of the time they are fucking someone else but they will always come and open the door.
[QUOTE=Pita123;2072848]Any guidance on the hours of operation?[/QUOTE]
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Yea, I'm not trying to pay to use this website when I've always found out my info for free through these forums and by exploring the different cities I have lived in here in VN myself. Are we allowed to post email address on here or anything?
[QUOTE=SimplyTheBest;2072496]Too bad I can't MP you then you will know.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=DjWhyTee;2072867]Yea, I'm not trying to pay to use this website when I've always found out my info for free through these forums and by exploring the different cities I have lived in here in VN myself. Are we allowed to post email address on here or anything?[/QUOTE]Emails will be deleted. But post enough and you become a senior member who doesn't have to pay.
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[QUOTE=SimplyTheBest;2072496]Too bad I can't MP you then you will know.[/QUOTE]The purpose of this forum is to share the information we possess. Just write a new post with the info so everyone can use it.
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Exactly! Anyways, I have been to two Tam Quats down this road. The massages themselves were pretty nice and longer than I thought they would be. Consisted of more than the typical "back slapping" stuff you get at the HTGD in Saigon. Yesterday I went to one located at 653 on that road and got a pretty nice BJ after the massage. I paid a total of 400 k (I always pay a little more considering they always get much more of a mouthful than with the typical bite size Vietnamese cock. LOL) I speak decent Vietnamese and was chatting to the girl throughout, she told me there are four girls that work there so next week I'll go back and sample another. And yes, you we right, I drove almost to the end of the road and spotted around 8 similar establishments. This was exactly what I was looking for; quick, fast and no BS involved. I know exactly what I'm getting for my money. I really appreciate the tip man!
[QUOTE=OneUw84;2073213]The purpose of this forum is to share the information we possess. Just write a new post with the info so everyone can use it.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=DjWhyTee;2073367]Exactly! Anyways, I have been to two Tam Quats down this road. The massages themselves were pretty nice and longer than I thought they would be. Consisted of more than the typical "back slapping" stuff you get at the HTGD in Saigon. Yesterday I went to one located at 653 on that road and got a pretty nice BJ after the massage. I paid a total of 400 k (I always pay a little more considering they always get much more of a mouthful than with the typical bite size Vietnamese cock. LOL) I speak decent Vietnamese and was chatting to the girl throughout, she told me there are four girls that work there so next week I'll go back and sample another. And yes, you we right, I drove almost to the end of the road and spotted around 8 similar establishments. This was exactly what I was looking for; quick, fast and no BS involved. I know exactly what I'm getting for my money. I really appreciate the tip man![/QUOTE]Which town are you guys discussing? Is it Haiphong?
I notice there is no Haiphong section in this Vietnam thread, but do you reckon it is good enough there so that it should have its own thread? We could easily start one, I think.
This one here has always been used for Saigon places, but I guess there is no hard rule about this.
I never been to Haiphong but it's still interesting to hear about.
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DJYT, I will be visiting HCMC next month. Will you be available for some free beers? You pick the place and time. It will be my first time there and will give a newbie report when I am done.
GF.
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[QUOTE=BlueBaron;2073564]Which town are you guys discussing? Is it Haiphong?
I notice there is no Haiphong section in this Vietnam thread, but do you reckon it is good enough there so that it should have its own thread? We could easily start one, I think.
This one here has always been used for Saigon places, but I guess there is no hard rule about this.
I never been to Haiphong but it's still interesting to hear about.[/QUOTE]Actually this should be discussed in the Other areas thread.
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[QUOTE=SimplyTheBest;2073713]Actually this should be discussed in the Other areas thread.[/QUOTE]I did. Check post #891 in "other areas".
BTW: when will you share the info you mentioned earlier? No reason to use PM for that.
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I'd love to buddy but I'm working / checking out the option here in Haiphong until about mid October! Just refer to my posts below and don't be afraid to go alone. If you don't have a bike just download the Grabcar app on your phone and take a grabbike there! Just walk in there like you're a regular and it's not your first time. I've never had any problems whatsoever at any place I've even been to for the past 5 years of fun in Saigon.
[QUOTE=GoneFishin;2073589]DJYT, I will be visiting HCMC next month. Will you be available for some free beers? You pick the place and time. It will be my first time there and will give a newbie report when I am done.
GF.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=DjWhyTee;2074791]I'd love to buddy but I'm working / checking out the option here in Haiphong until about mid October! Just refer to my posts below and don't be afraid to go alone. If you don't have a bike just download the Grabcar app on your phone and take a grabbike there! Just walk in there like you're a regular and it's not your first time. I've never had any problems whatsoever at any place I've even been to for the past 5 years of fun in Saigon.[/QUOTE]Hope we can see some field reports from Haiphong. I really look forward to hearing what that place is like.
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[QUOTE=BlueBaron;2079970]Hope we can see some field reports from Haiphong. I really look forward to hearing what that place is like.[/QUOTE]Hi BlueBaron,
Please check my post #891 in "other areas". Enough info to find there.
Had another great experience at Do Dong Duong Hotel / Massage this week (NGO 200 Van Cao. Small side street from Van Cao street).
Entrance 200 K for sauna, bathtub wash and massage.
The masseuse was a girl I met before: great body, perky tits with bullet nipples and good attitude. During the sauna, she opened the door and gave me a kiss on the lips. After the sauna I jumped into the bath and she gave me a decent wash, no parts missed. Out of the bath she started to French kiss me. This is the first time a massage girl started to French kiss me so I was a pleasantly surprised. After some hugging (me naked) and kissing she undressed herself and escorted me to the corner of the bathtub where she gave a good BJ including deep throat, she really seems to enjoy that. Meanwhile, I was allowed to play with her and feel her getting wet. I took the chair from the sauna and placed it before the bathtub for me to sit down and ask her to sit on the bathtub corner and to have her spread her legs so I can have some play with clit and finger her. Tight, wet and moaning. After a few minutes she picked up a condom and off we go. We did a few positions and after business was done we went to the actual massage room. There is a window in the door and she doesn't want to get caught having sex. I laid down on the table and she just did lay beside me and we cuddle a bit. After 10 minutes just laying she asked me if I want a massage and I agreed with a short one.
All in all, very nice. I really enjoyed the action before the massage as you can really relax during the actual massage. Will return.
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[QUOTE=BlueBaron;2079970]Hope we can see some field reports from Haiphong. I really look forward to hearing what that place is like.[/QUOTE]Check my post #891 in the section "other areas". All you need to know is there.
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[QUOTE=OneUw84;2080287]Hi BlueBaron,
Please check my post #891 in "other areas". Enough info to find there.
Had another great experience at Do Dong Duong Hotel / Massage this week (NGO 200 Van Cao. Small side street from Van Cao street).
Entrance 200 K for sauna, bathtub wash and massage.
The masseuse was a girl I met before: great body, perky tits with bullet nipples and good attitude. During the sauna, she opened the door and gave me a kiss on the lips. After the sauna I jumped into the bath and she gave me a decent wash, no parts missed. Out of the bath she started to French kiss me. This is the first time a massage girl started to French kiss me so I was a pleasantly surprised. After some hugging (me naked) and kissing she undressed herself and escorted me to the corner of the bathtub where she gave a good BJ including deep throat, she really seems to enjoy that. Meanwhile, I was allowed to play with her and feel her getting wet. I took the chair from the sauna and placed it before the bathtub for me to sit down and ask her to sit on the bathtub corner and to have her spread her legs so I can have some play with clit and finger her. Tight, wet and moaning..[/QUOTE]Oneyouw84,
Did the girl tell your her tip price before hand? How much did she want?
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Benny's
Went to Benny's on Tuesday around 5 pm. 5 girls working, all over 30, chubby, none were doable. The girl at the cash register took me by the hand and led me upstairs. Before I could really say no, she was taking my money 400.000. Decided to just go with it, major regret. She did her best, but the fact that she was chubby and almost my age, or older, was really killing the mood. She encouraged me to touch her tits, butt and pussy, but I just wasn't in the mood. No tip.
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[QUOTE=TomSf;2081035]Oneyouw84,
Did the girl tell your her tip price before hand? How much did she want?[/QUOTE]No, she didn't. She did this the 1st time I met her. We negotiated down to VND500 K. As I was with her before and she recognized me she didn't bother to discuss money again. VND500-600 K seems to be the price for these kind of services in this hotel.
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Nguyen Phi Khanh street
I only have a few days in Vietnam before I end my trip to SEA. Decided to hit a street not far from me near Notre Dame church for the Hot Toc experience. There are more than 5 on this street and stuck my head in a few of them. All had like 10+ girls working and for me I would have let at least half of them slobber over my knob for the 400 k. Its different from the Thai experience as they don't wash your privates down even if there is a wash basin. My little cubicle had one so was expecting a wash so I stripped down to nothing and when the girl came back she had me put my shorts back on. I was alittle to eager I guess. She had me lie down and brought my shorts down to my knees. Out come the wipes and they clean you up with that. She makes her tits and ass accessible to your touch but leaves her uniform on. Does the job and cleans you up again. For 18 us or so it has it value. I plan to visit another one to see if the process is the same. I did ask for full service but they all said no. Not sure if you have to be a regular first before considering this an option but as a first timer I was shot down.
GF.
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Umm.
You may want to finds some new friends.
[QUOTE=FredrickSG;2083069]While bar hopping recently with a teacher friend, he related a very funny story about the dangers of Cat Tocs and how this was used as a method to pass a message.
A guy had his girl leave him for a new cock, but still got an occasional sympathy fuck. The guy decided to go to the dirtiest local cat tocs he could find for a BBBJ with the intent of getting a dose of clap, supposedly took him a few visits but he succeeded getting the aching balls and dripping dick syndrome. Afterwards, he pushed the ex for a sympathy fuck specifically to infect her and subsequently her new dick. Hope that he cured himself after the transmission!
Strange way to pass on a message, but for sure the new cock would realize his newish GF was still fucking around unless he was a complete dreaming moron. Because it was a recent event, there is no end to the story.
He proved that you can get gonorrhea and chlamydia from BBBJ in these 'dirty' local cat toc places, note to self avoid them.
Anyone here got a dose from cat tocs with just a BBBJ?[/QUOTE]
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Hi
Nice report, thanks. Did all your BJs include cum-in-mouth in the hot tocs you mentioned?
[QUOTE=GoneFishin;2083160]I only have a few days in Vietnam before I end my trip to SEA. Decided to hit a street not far from me near Notre Dame church for the Hot Toc experience. There are more than 5 on this street and stuck my head in a few of them. All had like 10+ girls working and for me I would have let at least half of them slobber over my knob for the 400 k. Its different from the Thai experience as they don't wash your privates down even if there is a wash basin. My little cubicle had one so was expecting a wash so I stripped down to nothing and when the girl came back she had me put my shorts back on. I was alittle to eager I guess. She had me lie down and brought my shorts down to my knees. Out come the wipes and they clean you up with that. She makes her tits and ass accessible to your touch but leaves her uniform on. Does the job and cleans you up again. For 18 us or so it has it value. I plan to visit another one to see if the process is the same. I did ask for full service but they all said no. Not sure if you have to be a regular first before considering this an option but as a first timer I was shot down.
GF.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=KrumLov;2084272]Nice report, thanks. Did all your BJs include cum-in-mouth in the hot tocs you mentioned?[/QUOTE]Yes they did, forgot to mention that. Mine always sucked me dry before finishing. They may expect a tip for that. I always gave 100 k so total damage was 500 k.
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Thanks for the info
[QUOTE=KrumLov;2084272]Nice report, thanks. Did all your BJs include cum-in-mouth in the hot tocs you mentioned?[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info, but could yu lease be a bit more specific with regard to exact location. I am planning a trip over Christmas and would like to check this place out. You can PM. Thanks a million.
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[QUOTE=RoamingViking;2085182]Thanks for the info, but could yu lease be a bit more specific with regard to exact location. I am planning a trip over Christmas and would like to check this place out. You can PM. Thanks a million.[/QUOTE]No need for specifics. Go to that road it is not very long and the places are scattered on both sides. Just walk up and down the road in my previous post. You can't miss them. There will be a guy sitting out front and an interior door you would enter. Don't worry they will call out to you.
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Nguy and Phi Khanh (NPK)
I recently was in Vietnam and was able to visit the hot tocs on Nguy and Phi Khanh. Well, actually one. Since I was going to be in Vietnam for 2-3 weeks, I thought I'd check out all of them. There are two entrances to the street on Nguy and Phi Khanh- from Vo Thi Sau and the second Tran Quang Khai / Nguyen Huu Cau. I started from the second entrance (Tran Quang Khai / Nguyen Huu Cau). There aren't any hot tocs until you get to Huyen Quang, I went to the first one on the right hand side which is right after the very popular com tam restaurant. When I went in, there were a few couches in a "you" shape and a couple girls there. One of them was young, mid-20's cute still in her pjs. Since she looked cute, I thought I'd try her out. The "rooms" are upstairs and you take a rickety ladder / stairway up. They've got about 4 rooms where the girls sleep and use for the clients.
Please note, the rooms aren't that clean and there's about 2-3 feet gap from the top of the walls to the ceiling. Oh well, as long as I'm getting my dick sucked, I'll roll with it. After I've gotten naked, she comes in with wipes and starts to clean me. Before she starts, I pull her into me and start feeling her up. Holy shit! She had a nice firm rack and a nice tight ass hiding under her loose pjs. I start pulling her pjs off AND her panties with no objection. I start sliding along her pussy and she says, "no boom boom". Got it. Damn. After a little bit of grinding she squats down in front of me and starts sucking like a porn star. Playing with it, licking it's length, sucking on my balls, deep throating (6 inches) easily. After a good 5 minutes of this, I pull her off and lay down on the table and use hand signals to tell her I want to eat her out. She understands and we get into 69. Nice, wet, and tasty pussy. Mmm. We go on until I cum in her mouth. She makes sure she drains it. Holy fucking hell!
She would have been fine without a tip, but I gave her $5 US. She was happy with the extra money. Once we were done, went down stairs and paid $400 K. The girl's split there is $100 K. And yes, locals only pay $200 K. The girl only gets $50 K for the local.
I came back here a few times after (Ok, more than a few times, she was fucking amazing! There are about 5 girls who work there. Two that are cute in there mid-20's, Another that's a little on the chunky side, and two that act as the mamasan that are in their late 20's-early 30's. The two cute ones are both amazing cock suckers and I highly recommend them. After your done, the com tam restaurants around the area are great.
Oh, forget about using standard taxis and download Grab or Uber and take motorbike taxis. It's so much cheaper and faster than any standard taxi.
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Thanks for your reply.
[QUOTE=GoneFishin;2085054]Yes they did, forgot to mention that. Mine always sucked me dry before finishing. They may expect a tip for that. I always gave 100 k so total damage was 500 k.[/QUOTE]
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Good one
Excellent report, thanks. Clear addresses, prices included, etc. I wish more people knew how to do this.
[QUOTE=Milongo811;2085696]I recently was in Vietnam and was able to visit the hot tocs on Nguy and Phi Khanh. Well, actually one. Since I was going to be in Vietnam for 2-3 weeks, I thought I'd check out all of them. There are two entrances to the street on Nguy and Phi Khanh- from Vo Thi Sau and the second Tran Quang Khai / Nguyen Huu Cau. I started from the second entrance (Tran Quang Khai / Nguyen Huu Cau). There aren't any hot tocs until you get to Huyen Quang, I went to the first one on the right hand side which is right after the very popular com tam restaurant. When I went in, there were a few couches in a "you" shape and a couple girls there. One of them was young, mid-20's cute still in her pjs. Since she looked cute, I thought I'd try her out. The "rooms" are upstairs and you take a rickety ladder / stairway up. They've got about 4 rooms where the girls sleep and use for the clients.
Please note, the rooms aren't that clean and there's about 2-3 feet gap from the top of the walls to the ceiling. Oh well, as long as I'm getting my dick sucked, I'll roll with it. After I've gotten naked, she comes in with wipes and starts to clean me. Before she starts, I pull her into me and start feeling her up. Holy shit! She had a nice firm rack and a nice tight ass hiding under her loose pjs. I start pulling her pjs off AND her panties with no objection. I start sliding along her pussy and she says, "no boom boom". Got it. Damn. After a little bit of grinding she squats down in front of me and starts sucking like a porn star. Playing with it, licking it's length, sucking on my balls, deep throating (6 inches) easily. After a good 5 minutes of this, I pull her off and lay down on the table and use hand signals to tell her I want to eat her out. She understands and we get into 69. Nice, wet, and tasty pussy. Mmm. We go on until I cum in her mouth. She makes sure she drains it. Holy fucking hell!
She would have been fine without a tip, but I gave her $5 US. She was happy with the extra money. Once we were done, went down stairs and paid $400 K. The girl's split there is $100 K. And yes, locals only pay $200 K. The girl only gets $50 K for the local.
I came back here a few times after (Ok, more than a few times, she was fucking amazing! There are about 5 girls who work there. Two that are cute in there mid-20's, Another that's a little on the chunky side, and two that act as the mamasan that are in their late 20's-early 30's. The two cute ones are both amazing cock suckers and I highly recommend them. After your done, the com tam restaurants around the area are great.
Oh, forget about using standard taxis and download Grab or Uber and take motorbike taxis. It's so much cheaper and faster than any standard taxi.[/QUOTE]
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You think you know
[QUOTE=KrumLov;2085978]Excellent report, thanks. Clear addresses, prices included, etc. I wish more people knew how to do this.[/QUOTE]To Krum Lov.
You newbie think you know last time I was at NPK 2 yr ago mamasan want me to paid upfront I told her no after, she ask for 400 k told her no I paid 200 k all the time I am Asian only my 2nd time there she say ok give the girl 50 k tip extra after and hand the front desk 200 k on my way out your guys over paid.
Fast eddie 48.
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Thanks Eddie, I'll keep that in mind.
[QUOTE=FastEddie48;2086264]To Krum Lov.
You newbie think you know last time I was at NPK 2 yr ago mamasan want me to paid upfront I told her no after, she ask for 400 k told her no I paid 200 k all the time I am Asian only my 2nd time there she say ok give the girl 50 k tip extra after and hand the front desk 200 k on my way out your guys over paid.
Fast eddie 48.[/QUOTE]
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Eddie is right but that was 2 years ago. Came back today and hit all the parlours there saying I paid 200 k last time. I even showed the card I had from last time. None would bulge from 400 anymore and some even dare to ask 500. F. k that! Thanks to all the stupid guys who ruined it for the rest of us.
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[QUOTE=SimplyTheBest;2089721]Eddie is right but that was 2 years ago. Came back today and hit all the parlours there saying I paid 200 k last time. I even showed the card I had from last time. None would bulge from 400 anymore and some even dare to ask 500. F. k that! Thanks to all the stupid guys who ruined it for the rest of us.[/QUOTE]At a popular shop on NPK last week. I saw a Vietnamese guy pay with a 500 k and get 200 k change.
As I understand it the local price is still 300 k, but all the shops I looked at hold out for 400 k now from foreigners (I've seen the cashiers hand the girls half I. E 200 k).
Yet guys continue to 'tip on top' of whatever they're charged.
300 k is still accepted at random BJ hot tocs I checked around town. No doubt Eddie was right, and locals there still pay 200 k at them, although I see them sometimes passing the girl and additional 20 k or 50 k as they leave.
But NPK has been spoiled. And let an Old Hand tell you that as the price goes up so the level of service will deteriorate.
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Npk
At NPK,
Never ask 'how much?
Choose girl, get CIM, pay 400 k, leave.
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[QUOTE=Matong36;2090061]At NPK,
Never ask 'how much?
Choose girl, get CIM, pay 400 k, leave.[/QUOTE]But 400 k is ripoff buddy.
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I am in Danang.
In Nguyen tat tranh exactly.
I find a hoc toc with some girl pretty the listing announce massage.
But it not look like they have a backroom.
I ask to be shaved I nice girl shave me with finger of fay very nice and kind but not a word of English.
The experience was perfect.
I pay 10 K but I not dare ask for something else.
Someone can tell me if all the hoc toc with massage girl offer special service or not?
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Yep
Agreed. Never ceases to amaze me who either overpay, tip unnecessarily, or both. All over Asia. The whole scene has been ruined over the last 20 years because of these jerks. The amount some people pay, they may as well just stay in their own country and use hookers there.
[QUOTE=MeoDen;2089926]At a popular shop on NPK last week. I saw a Vietnamese guy pay with a 500 k and get 200 k change.
As I understand it the local price is still 300 k, but all the shops I looked at hold out for 400 k now from foreigners (I've seen the cashiers hand the girls half I. E 200 k).
Yet guys continue to 'tip on top' of whatever they're charged.
300 k is still accepted at random BJ hot tocs I checked around town. No doubt Eddie was right, and locals there still pay 200 k at them, although I see them sometimes passing the girl and additional 20 k or 50 k as they leave.
But NPK has been spoiled. And let an Old Hand tell you that as the price goes up so the level of service will deteriorate.[/QUOTE]
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Comments of a viet newbie
Hello guys,
Intro.
Thank you for all your comments. Very helpful to get the first aid from specialists. So long time I didn't log into ISG, I m living in Thailand since few years where I get a nice gal. This is only my second visit in Vietnam, I'm checking out HCMC scene but not into spending millions vdn as I m here only for 2 weeks then back to Thai. It's funny I feel I m very familiar of this business and in the same time a real newbie haha.
Cheap HJ.
I want to share with you my reliable costs from October 2017, as I was a bit horny I just wanted to check around Bui Vien some massage parlors in the small alleys, there are dozens and dozens. All work the same, just search and find the girl you like, slim / young, to find one like this you won't need more than 30 mn in my opinion. Prices in those cheap shops are. For one hour of oil full body massage. From 150 k to 200 k (a bit less than hotel without the fucking random). Two remarks: first on the top of menus they write first with 1/2 hour, so be careful if you like one hour, second last night it was late around midnight a little thing of 40 kg bargain me hard 100 k for one hour so I said "you convinced me" haha. Then it's the same as everywhere, face down then up. I just wanted an HJ, my tip, flat tip I hope was 200 k, grabbing the gals everywhere, make her moaning, so guys you can use that amount. I don't think a westerner can give much less (starting with 1 m, then 700, then 500 and so on blabla.). I went few times to one girl and we got some good "feelings" she even offered me some food, so I m pretty sure 200 k was OK with her, so summarize guys for a quickly in D1 (if you are not into hotels style or wilder districts) 100 200+200, right now it's more 300 all included after few times. Of course I will check it out NPK, I counted 6 hot docs you can't miss it, papasans will greet you loud + 3 more in Võ Thị Sáyou.
Long time relations.
Viet gals are very sweet, not talking about hungry working girls. These days I'm starting to date a Viet girl I met in a coffee shop, I think such things are really possible here too but need some time for that and it's impossible if you get only few days. To compare with Thai GF relationships and see the way they handle their western BF.
Question.
Following up a old post, it was said Thiêand Hồng hotel ("Arc en Ciel") on Tảand Đà street had a steamed room and massage, is this finish or still open? It look like it's over, someone can confirm it?
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NPK Horrible Experience.
Ok so I'm going to focus this post specifically on NPK although I'll be posting more in the future.
Long time philanderer, brand new to mongering. Few weeks ago I met a business guy who insisted I go with him to get a massage that had a happy ending. He paid because I said I'm not at a point where I have to directly pay for relations, plus I don't want to spend 2 million for something I can do myself (Minh Tham Hotel & Massage 206 Ba Thang Hai). Anyway I experienced it and decided that this is something I could do in the future cause it's more time / cost effective. Going out on dates with girls I've met through life (not working girls) ends up costing between 1 million to 2 million (dinner at a nice place and going out for drinks) with no guarantee I get what I want at the end. Anyway so I figured 400 k for a BBBJ wasn't so a bad idea considering I wouldn't have to talk to her again (I've got several girls that put out but want me to make commitments.).
Anyway, I went out again with the business guy to Lush on LTT but had to go home early because I had a super important meeting this morning. I decided to say fuck it and checkout NPK cause it's a long the way home and I've been reading this forum like an addict for the past 3 weeks (since I decided P4 P wasn't as big an evil as I use to think after the experience at Minh Tham).
Horrible Experience or stroke of bad luck?
It's about 11:00 pm and I was pretty drunk and I walk in and directly ask the mama if this place included the "use of mouth" to which she said yes. No girls in sight but she promises the girl would be pretty. I ask her how much and she says 400 k so I agreed cause it just didn't seem like a ridiculous price compared to what the business guy paid for me to get a massage & HJ (1.75 million).
She leads me up to the room and tells me to get comfortable and I go into the bathroom to wash off my junk. I know girls appreciate that so I want to make them happy so they give me better service. The girl comes in and asks me to undress to my undies which I do. Shittiest massage I've ever had. She was slapping my back. After about 5-10 minutes she asks me to turn around and then starts giving me a HJ while licking and kissing my chest. I let her do this for a few minutes cause I want he to get comfortable with me while we talk and I feel her up. She's still in her clothes but let's me roam. Anyway after a few moments I tell her I want her to use her mouth. She refuses and then I say this is what I want. She tells me I smell which I think get annoyed with because I know I don't (I directly washed myself while waiting for her so that this wouldn't be an issue after all.) After I go back and forth with her over whether or not she's going to do it I get the impression she's serious so immediately dress and walk down. The mamasan downstairs wants to know what's going on and the girl tells her that she did her "job" and that I got my "service. " Obviously I disagree adamantly and refuse to pay. She says I still have to pay 200 k for the room. After we spend about 5-10 minutes arguing about what's what I decide to call my friend and ask him what he thinks I should do. He says just pay it and be on your way (I didn't want to initially out of principle but at this point was annoyed and just wanted to go home.) I ended up paying 200 k for a 5-10 minute massage with a little roaming and not the service I directly asked for. I know 200 k isn't the end of the world but it definitely sucks being cheated when you directly told them what you wanted and didn't get it (remember I told her I was only interested in the BBJ upon walking in.).
Take away for me is that you should ask them how much for the room, how much for the tip. I thought it was 100 k for the room and 300 k tip but she told me it's 200 k for the room regardless of whether or not I got what I wanted. This really annoyed me. Also I'd advise negotiating whether or not you can switch girls if she isn't up to your liking. Furthermore, I'd agree with one many previous people have said about not being rushed. I made this mistake too cause I was drunk and just wanted a quick service before going home and getting some sleep. Your power here is that they know there's dozens of other places within a short distance. Make sure you pull the mama / papasan aside before hand and tell them what you want or what you expect if it goes south (like with me).
Now that I think about it, maybe I shouldn't have immediately dressed but instead have asked her to get someone else? What do you experienced guys think about what happened to me?
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[QUOTE=CoderDoug;2098978]Ok so I'm going to focus this post specifically on NPK although I'll be posting more in the future..............[/QUOTE]What was the name / address of the shop? (Tip: always get a business card on a first visit).
Did you converse in Vietnamese? No communication issues? Just let the girls wash you in the cubicles. Don't expect a massage.
IMO girls do not like customers who are obviously drunk, unless they plan to rob them. If you have drunk a bit it's better to revisit a shop / girl who already knows you.
I wouldn't take a girl who was sent to me in a room or who grabbed me as I walked in the door. If you choose from a line up you get a chance to evaluate each girl's reaction and make an educated guess as to their attitude. Simply request a line up, and if they won't provide one, walk.
You probably should have gone down and demanded a replacement performer from the mama-san. Your friend was right to tell you to pay the 200 k, but no Vietnamese customer would have given them money for nothing but disrespect.
In general, it seems to me that foreigners have a tougher time punting in Vietnam than in most other countries in the region. It's a commercial encounter. It's natural for them to try to get as much as they can for as little as they can give. When they encounter any weakness or lack of experience it's like pushing at an open door for them. Compare the interactions with tourists at Ben Thanh market. And consider how few tourists want to return to Vietnam.
You are quite right about not being rushed. And walk. Practice walking away from transactions. Walk even when you see an attractive target. Make a polite excuse. You can always go back.
Being 30 (although uglier than your brother) you can find a gem outwith the P4P arena, but it will take time. Younger Vietnamese guys have the same problem. Hence the market for the hot tocs.
Also, not to cross threads, but I'd be interested in your experiences at 795 Ka Thy, taking a ST room and hanging around the elevator.
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Everyone likes a viking
I went back to NPH 84 and got Kim again. Third time this week. The other day I did sneak off for a 15 minute BJ that took almost two hours with traffic. My company was beginning to wonder. I was late for a business meeting. This time they only charged me 200!! So I tipped her extra. Because she took everything off and straddled my face in the middle of everything. She has a very firm body and A cups. Not much of a Bush but really long lips. Hope you like. The other shops on this street are quiet dismal.
Take care.
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Npk again.
Hello,
I arrived in HCMC a few days ago and visited npk street. Normally I would go nr. 84 because I have been there before. This time I entered the road on the west side where there is the highland coffee shop. I saw a man who used to work at nr 84 now sitting in front of nr 140. Maybe he got fired or expanded his business? Anyway I entered his shop and so far all the ladies were good. There are no stunners but if you behave properly they will all be nice.
So far there is one lady named TAM who surely try to give a bit extra to make me chm. First class rimming and although her English is poor she is nice company.
Did try Kim too at nr. 84 but for me it was like very ordinary.
It will always depend on if there is some kind of mutual understanding.
Sincere greetings, Frits.
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Went to NPK because my reg was back home in her province. I won't mention the exact shop but I took the young fresh faced girl with cute bangs and baby fat in her cheeks. She was playing a MOBA game on her phone and asked me to wait a minute. She died and then asked me to wait again. She died again and her team lost a tower, and I thought it was time to surrender as they were going to lose anyway. She asked me to wait a third time and I got up and went back downstairs and took another girl and she was worried I might be angry because of the girl and took care of me.
Went back the next day and didn't see the teen. A rush of Viet men came in and made the place uncomfortable. They were interviewing girls, and I heard them repeat the name of the girl I was waiting for. This sucks. One girl asked me to go up and she looked fine. She didn't know how to do a proper BJ. Her teeth injured me and I have a scab now. I'm really tired of the poor service in HCM. These Vietnamese girls want money for nothing.
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Best hot toc D1?
Am in D1 but willing to travel a little if worth it.
Preferably with bit of English. Maybe get a haircut too. Thoughts?
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Npk 140 again.
Hello,
Yesterday I return to number 140 again and found a new girl (never seen her before and there are not many girls working there, I think about 6).
She had a shy but nice smile. Her name Nhang, no English skills. After the session I wanted to know her age. But when do sign language about age they just can say money?
She did her best to please me. Rubbing her pussy on my body parts, making me suck her nice firm tits, and got naked within a minute! She offered me to lick her pussy using funny sign language. Of course Vietnamese pussy is usually surrounded by some Bush and can have some odour. But it was nice.
It could well have been her first day because I got the idea she got some instructions from mamasan.
She wouldn't take my load in her mouth but in the end it was more than nice. All the girls in that shop let me finish in their mouth if I could finish at all because of age and hot weather.
Sincere greetings from Frits.
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[QUOTE=Penguin69;2125227]Am in D1 but willing to travel a little if worth it.
Preferably with bit of English. Maybe get a haircut too. Thoughts?[/QUOTE]They don't blow you in the places where you can get a real haircut. Unless perhaps the barber is gay.
If you want a full package you could try LE Vy or one of the other clip joints where for a stiff price painted ladies will flirt with you, do your nails, maybe give you a shampoo after a haircut etc. Pay with exact money. Do not tip. Instead, take a cab over to NPK and spend the money on getting blown by an honest tart (400 k).
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NPK = Nguyen Phi Khanh.
Just to clarify.
NPK is Nguyen Phi Khanh street in D1?
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Npk.
[QUOTE=MeoDen;2125571]They don't blow you in the places where you can get a real haircut. Unless perhaps the barber is gay.
If you want a full package you could try LE Vy or one of the other clip joints where for a stiff price painted ladies will flirt with you, do your nails, maybe give you a shampoo after a haircut etc. Pay with exact money. Do not tip. Instead, take a cab over to NPK and spend the money on getting blown by an honest tart (400 k).[/QUOTE]Sounds like the solution. Maybe try no 84 as read mixed about Bennys, but for a newbie like me maybe the difference is debatable. The haircut can wait.
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84 npk.
Paid my first visit here earlier.
Walked in and girls lying about everywhere, barbers' chairs etc. And several in kitchen area through back. Couple of solid gals there but the one who open door to me was called what sounded like Jam or Giam. Cute as a button, spinner category I'd say. Quite petite and very slim with maybe A cups. Quite funny and playful. The perfunctory massage over she rolled down her top to reveal perfect little nipples. She let me slide my hand between her legs but had panties on. Damn. After I exploded and she cleaned up she lay on my chest for several divine minutes stroking my chest. Very soothing. 500 k plus nice tip for 'Jam'. Wish I could've STD her, it would have been a dream. Plus got bike back to hotel from guy who'd just been dropped.
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[QUOTE=Penguin69;2126148]Paid my first visit here earlier.
Walked in and girls lying about everywhere, barbers' chairs etc. And several in kitchen area through back. Couple of solid gals there but the one who open door to me was called what sounded like Jam or Giam. Cute as a button, spinner category I'd say. Quite petite and very slim with maybe A cups. Quite funny and playful. The perfunctory massage over she rolled down her top to reveal perfect little nipples. She let me slide my hand between her legs but had panties on. Damn. After I exploded and she cleaned up she lay on my chest for several divine minutes stroking my chest. Very soothing. 500 k plus nice tip for 'Jam'. Wish I could've STD her, it would have been a dream. Plus got bike back to hotel from guy who'd just been dropped.[/QUOTE]Did you read post 754 [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]? Even without tip you already overpaid pffff. No wonder prices increase like crazy for P4P here.
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BobMorane69,
Yes read it. So what. I'm suppose to negotiate with mamasan who comes out and says 500 k?! First timer at the place, you'd do different I suppose? Have read other blogs and on here and 400- 500 k has been mentioned.
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[QUOTE=Penguin69;2126294]BobMorane69,
Yes read it. So what. I'm suppose to negotiate with mamasan who comes out and says 500 k?! First timer at the place, you'd do different I suppose? Have read other blogs and on here and 400- 500 k has been mentioned.[/QUOTE]Absolutely.
If you don't negotiate in Vietnam as a foreigner you are screwed.
Wake up.
The normal rate isn't 400/500. That s stupid foreigner price.
Other members including myself pay less. Half of what you paid is still possible and even though it s still more than locals pay.
For 400/500 you can get laid in HCM you don't pay that for a BJ.
Wake up.
RTFF and no tip is required specially when you already overpaid.
It's like telling the mamasan oh you fuck me very nice I enjoy it please do it again.
Trust me they laugh at you next time they see you.
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[QUOTE=Penguin69;2126294]BobMorane69,
Yes read it. So what. I'm suppose to negotiate with mamasan who comes out and says 500 k?! First timer at the place, you'd do different I suppose? Have read other blogs and on here and 400- 500 k has been mentioned.[/QUOTE]Hi Penguin,
I mentioned in my reply that 400 k is the current price. If you had read the forum a little you would have understood that this is the full payment expected from tourists. In other words the highest, all-inclusive price. Locals tend to pay 200 k to the house and give 50-100 k to the girl. When you pay 400 k the mama-san takes her share and gives the girl her cut (you may call this the 'tip' - I would prefer to use the word 'fee'.
In the Western sense of the word, there is no 'tipping' in Vietnam, only overpaying. Bob is quite right about negotiating: it's standard to ask an inflated price to test if you are a sap / weakling / schmuck and then treat you accordingly, chasing more money and reducing quality of service.
[QUOTE]She let me slide my hand between her legs but had panties on.[/QUOTE]These girls remove their underwear to allow full roaming, fingering, will sit on your face or 69, kiss etc. Everything except penetration.
I suggest next time you try another shop on the street (400 k inclusive).
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Tam Ky.
I am visiting Tam Ky city next week. Can anyone help me out in that area with some leads? Please PM me.
Thanks.
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[QUOTE=Laloosh12;2125600]Just to clarify.
NPK is Nguyen Phi Khanh street in D1?[/QUOTE]There's a map attached on post #740.
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Open on new years?
Will be in HCMC on the 17th.
Since its new years for the locals, I hear a lot of businesses will be closed.
Does anyone know how this affects the businesses mentioned in this thread and if they will be open?
Thanks!
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From a quick run round D2 today, 15th.
Diva, Spa49, Thuy Moc, Harmony and Sweet are all open.
Addresses are all in the thread if you can't google them.
Don't tip more than 1 m or maybe an extra 100 "lucky money" for Tet.
D2 is about 150 k each way in a taxi from D1.
Bamboo has disappeared: I wasn't a fan of the over boiled cabbage smell anyway.
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[QUOTE=AussieFella;2136922]There's a map attached on post #740.[/QUOTE]Thanks.
I'll going to Saigon soon to visit some folks.
I looked at that post and google map. I'll check out NPK and some other places.
I'll add a report and that's hopefully worthy.
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Npk 84.
I was there last week. Horrible experience. The girl did not know what she was doing. She got tired of sucking and ended with HJ. Really? 400 k down the drain.
Benny's that I tried last year twice was excellent every time.
Maybe I got the wrong girl. She was good looking, mid 20's nothing special though. It was really late and my first day in Vietnam after a year, so I said to myself what the heck.
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Npk
I recently tried #140 and had a good experience. I can't remember her name but had a big tattoo over her breast. Good service, no rush.
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Any near Bui Vien street? I went to La Duyen by Ha My 3 hotel and they provided no extras.
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Npk 84.
Visited 84 today. On entering there was around 10 girls available; most I found to be pretty attractive. I picked a girl called Lin who was short, thin and looked around early 20's. I was happy with the service as the old fella wasn't performing at his best and she sucked and stroked like a trooper while I had a good time fingering her. The fake moans of pleasure were a little irritating and completely unnecessary but I do understand that they feel the need to do it as some guys like to indulge in a fantasy that the girls are having a great time and cumming whilst sucking the dick of a random stranger. Anyway, she did her job and took a load in the mouth which I would say was well worth the 400 I paid. She was pretty insistent on the fee being 500 but, thanks to the advice here, I stuck firmly to 400. I'm only in HCMC for a few days before I head to Vung Tau so I'm not sure if I'll get back there again but it was worth the trip.
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[QUOTE=AussieFella;2154044]Visited 84 today. On entering there was around 10 girls available; most I found to be pretty attractive... Anyway, she did her job and took a load in the mouth which I would say was well worth the 400 I paid. She was pretty insistent on the fee being 500 but, thanks to the advice here, I stuck firmly to 400. I'm only in HCMC for a few days before I head to Vung Tau so I'm not sure if I'll get back there again but it was worth the trip.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report. I'm interested in what other experiences you are comparing this with.
I was there last week and looked in a few shops, took from 84 and 112. My impression was that attitude and quality have really taken a dive in the last couple of years.
Kudos for knowing the foreigner price and sticking to it. The problem is that the previous customer may have had such a good time that he 'tipped' an extra 100 k, making the new 'price' in her mind 500.
When a tipping culture meets a haggling culture hyperinflation inevitably ensues.
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[QUOTE=MeoDen;2155216]Thanks for the report. I'm interested in what other experiences you are comparing this with.
I was there last week and looked in a few shops, took from 84 and 112. My impression was that attitude and quality have really taken a dive in the last couple of years.
Kudos for knowing the foreigner price and sticking to it. The problem is that the previous customer may have had such a good time that he 'tipped' an extra 100 k, making the new 'price' in her mind 500.
When a tipping culture meets a haggling culture hyperinflation inevitably ensues.[/QUOTE]In recent years I've spent most of my time abroad in Bali and Sihanoukville. The girl I picked was friendly and enthusiastic and, although I took a while to blow, didn't give me a feeling of being rushed. Most of the girls I had in Snooky were pretty good, but attitude and performance in Bali can be hit or miss.
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Hoi An.
Sorry for my first post to be a question, but what is the hot toc / BJ situation like in Hoi An?
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Hot Toc with FS on offer.
Anyone know of a HT with FS on offer. Especially looking for a girl with large breasts. Any recommendations appreciated.
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Past time fun!
By far one of the best options for mongering in VN. But in SGN / HCM in general. Went to the same shop on NPK about three times, and each experience was the same. So spectacular. From reading the forums I just remember 84 NPK. And just had my grab driver drop me off close to there. The street is filled with at least 5-6 shops, mostly on one side of the road, but a few on the opposite. For each time I went, I walked up and down the street, trying to stare through the windows to see how many girls were in each shop. Many of them will have at least two to three. There was one shop that always had many more. I don't remember the address but you can just do the walking method and look in. Anyways, there's usually a gentleman outside guiding you in, but you can always ignore. I politely decline. I know a little bit of Vietnamese, so declining wasn't difficult for me. Anyways, I always found myself back at the same shop, it just always had the most girls and the cutest, again sorry I forgot the address. They all wore yellow dresses. I do look Vietnamese, so I would walk in, ask how many girls, and usually they would all come out. I always pick the one that is most interested in me, not always the hottest. I like more the GFE vs hotness. So base it off her smile, eye contact, if they asked me how was my day, etc. Then upstairs we went. I won't go over details of the session, I am sure you can get that info by scrolling around. But only after I went downstairs again I paid 400 k usually to the receptionist or the lady herself. I tip the girl maybe 50 k. I did ask if there were extras, I got shot down immediately each time. And generally I thought we had a good connection, it is just something they don't do on premise. The last girl I was with, did ask what hotel I stayed at, and then offered to come after she got off. Unfortunately I was going to catch my flight in a few hours so that was off the table. I am sure she would have been fun but I didn't ask for a price nor number, because then I would just be teasing myself. Anyways, 400 k. Is the standard. I tried to give 300 k one time. But got the ugly stares so 400 k it was. Not bad, considering it is about 20 USD for a BBBJCIM. They work to please as well, and I always left emptied. Girls are definitely not the hottest, but going online was a gamble, going to the clubs like Apocalypse now was rip off. Each girl wanted 120 usd there, even after chatting them up, and offering to buy them a drink. Anyways, cheers!
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Guys, it's not even $20 for a BBBJCIM. That's the sad part! It's just 150,000 or 200,000 Dong. Seriously. Yes, even on NPK! You pay the house fee and you tip whatever you want. Sure you can tip up to 400 or even 500 if you wan't. It's your money. But why do that when you can just as easily pay the going rate of 200,000 or 250,000 ?
I found a lot of great HTGD in Saigon but I fear to share them. I'll come back a few weeks later and the expected prices will double or triple. You have to know the prices in Vietnam. If you don't the locals will eat you alive!
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About NPK.
I will go there next month, not sure which one is the best? I heard a lot about 84 112 and several others but I don't have much time so maybe a 1-2 visit during my trip at most.
Would love to have a place where I can 69 with the girls.
Please recommend guys.
Thank you in advance!
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[QUOTE=Name6363;2226706]I will go there next month, not sure which one is the best? I heard a lot about 84 112 and several others but I don't have much time so maybe a 1-2 visit during my trip at most.
Would love to have a place where I can 69 with the girls.
Please recommend guys.
Thank you in advance![/QUOTE]Whether or not you can 69 depends on you and the girl. Some do it and more. Others don't even drop their panties.
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[QUOTE=RickRock;2226930]Whether or not you can 69 depends on you and the girl. Some do it and more. Others don't even drop their panties.[/QUOTE]Hi Rick Rock,
Thank you for your fast reply!
May I inquire about the other HotTocs location that you mentioned in previous post? Promise that I will not exceed the rate you have been paying as I, my self, also don't want the rate to increase because if it good, I will come back and no one would love to pay more I know that.
Apology in advance if this post breach your privacy since I have not seen much places besides NPK and Benny (which the latter notoriously known for its deteriorate service lately.) with the reasonable price.
Your friend from another country.
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[QUOTE=Name6363;2227031]Hi Rick Rock,
Thank you for your fast reply!
May I inquire about the other HotTocs location that you mentioned in previous post? Promise that I will not exceed the rate you have been paying as I, my self, also don't want the rate to increase because if it good, I will come back and no one would love to pay more I know that.
Apology in advance if this post breach your privacy since I have not seen much places besides NPK and Benny (which the latter notoriously known for its deteriorate service lately.) with the reasonable price.
Your friend from another country.[/QUOTE]Name6363,
It is easy for a foreigner to claim he will not pay more. But once he is there and realizes that no-one there speaks English or barley can speak English his idea of negotiating goes out the window. Then he realizes how hard it is to find these places for foreigners that don't know where to go. So the foreigner ends up over paying. My point is easier said than done.
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[QUOTE=TomSf;2228945]Name6363,
It is easy for a foreigner to claim he will not pay more. But once he is there and realizes that no-one there speaks English or barley can speak English his idea of negotiating goes out the window. Then he realizes how hard it is to find these places for foreigners that don't know where to go. So the foreigner ends up over paying. My point is easier said than done.[/QUOTE]Actually, easier done than said since you don't even have to talk. You just pay the going rate and then go on your way. It's no more difficult than that.
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[QUOTE=Name6363;2227031]May I inquire about the other HotTocs location that you mentioned in previous post? Promise that I will not exceed the rate you have been paying as I, my self, also don't want the rate to increase because if it good, I will come back and no one would love to pay more I know that.[/QUOTE]You might not pay more but others read this forum. They will. We've seen it time and time again. I like to share info. Here it's not needed. There are 20 places posted here for the over payers to continue to visit. If you have a spine you can get away with paying the going rate in those places anyway. For now I have to keep the places I found to myself. But really they're not so difficult to locate. Just keep your eyes open and ask around. It's mostly Vietnamese guys who go to these places. In my experience, they're happy to show you where.
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[QUOTE=MeoDen;2126712]I mentioned in my reply that 400 k is the current price.[/QUOTE]Strange, last time two times I went there in Jan 2018, the guys outside said 300 k total. When I pulled out money in front of the girl, both times they just said pay at desk. No asking for tip. Really good performances too, I picked the skinniest/hottest ones.
Not sure if others know this, but they also rim your ass if you motion towards that area or ask.
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[QUOTE=Cwomd;2235671]Strange, last time two times I went there in Jan 2018, the guys outside said 300 k total. When I pulled out money in front of the girl, both times they just said pay at desk. No asking for tip. Really good performances too, I picked the skinniest/hottest ones.
Not sure if others know this, but they also rim your ass if you motion towards that area or ask.[/QUOTE]400 k has been the standard price asked from foreigners since 2015 at Tuan Tam, other shops caught up fairly quickly. Of course they can be flexible depending on how busy they are etc. Most locals pay 300 k total, so it's a fair price.
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Hanoi.
Good day everyone.
I am new here. Just touched down in Hanoi. Is there anything like Saigon's NPK here? Or any Hot tocs (BJ bars) in the 400 range?
Thanks in advance.
Beast.
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[QUOTE=MeoDen;2235828]400 k has been the standard price asked from foreigners since 2015 at Tuan Tam, other shops caught up fairly quickly. Of course they can be flexible depending on how busy they are etc. Most locals pay 300 k total, so it's a fair price.[/QUOTE]Actually, a "fair price" is 300 k, because that is THE price. What's fair about overpaying by 25%? What a strange concept. Pay whatever you want, but there is no standard price. There is a house fee and whatever you want to tip. In HCMC, that normally means you double the house fee. So at all these places where the house charges 125 k or 150 k, the "fair price" and indeed "the price" is 300 k, not 400 k, 450 k or 500 k. Facts.
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[QUOTE=RickRock;2242426]Actually, a "fair price" is 300 k, because that is THE price... Pay whatever you want, but there is no standard price.... Facts.[/QUOTE]Quite so. There is no standard price, there is no 'THE price'.
Agreed most hot tocs in SGN are 300 k, however I think it would be tough for a foreigner trying to pay less than 400 k at Tuan Tam, but not impossible. NPK got famous on the internet. In 2012 it was 200 k.
My comment about 400 k being a fair price there was made in the context of other punters regularly paying 500 k and more.
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Hot toc experience.
On my lunch break on Thursday I rode past a hot toc on hoang sa. Near McDonalds. Huge grey building with red writing. Doors always open with a couple of reclining barber chairs on show. I always look in and see a girl or 2 inside lounging on the chairs so though this time I will ride straight up the pavement, up the ramp and park my bike to see what is on offer.
Now I speak no Vietnamese so was always worried about the language in one of these places but it was simple. Should have tried a while back but always stuck to massage places.
As I walked in the lady on the chair who was playing on her phone got up. She had a lacey red night dress on only and some little heels. Not the sexiest. Mid 30's. Massive breasts though and almost popping out of her night dress. She gestured to follow her so I did. We went up one flight of stairs and in to a room with two massage beds and a small shower toilet room. She pointed to clothes and told to take off. No idea what was going to happen here. Was this just a massage I wondered!? .
She got straight on to cleaning my soldier and went in for a BBBJ. She lowered her dress revealing massive breasts and wanted me to roam so I did. She sucked pretty hard. Fairly enjoyable. Then as I went to cum she took the soldier out and let cum go everywhere over my body. Would have preferred CIM. She cleaned me and asked for 400 k. She offered boom boom for 800 k. Not sure if this was an extra 400 or another 800 on top so I declined.
Would I return? For a quick suck at 400 possibly. Be keen to see if other girls are there. Hopefully a bit younger.
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Thanks for detailed report. When you mention Hoang Sa are you referring to the large round-about that Mcdonalds is on or Hoang Sa along the canal? It takes all my concentration to avoid accidents while riding these streets, would like to minimize rubber necking as much as possible when looking for the shop.
Thanks again.
[QUOTE=LiamViet;2243994]On my lunch break on Thursday I rode past a hot toc on hoang sa. Near McDonalds. Huge grey building with red writing. Doors always open with a couple of reclining barber chairs on show. I always look in and see a girl or 2 inside lounging on the chairs so though this time I will ride straight up the pavement, up the ramp and park my bike to see what is on offer.
Now I speak no Vietnamese so was always worried about the language in one of these places but it was simple. Should have tried a while back but always stuck to massage places.
As I walked in the lady on the chair who was playing on her phone got up. She had a lacey red night dress on only and some little heels. Not the sexiest. Mid 30's. Massive breasts though and almost popping out of her night dress. She gestured to follow her so I did. We went up one flight of stairs and in to a room with two massage beds and a small shower toilet room. She pointed to clothes and told to take off. No idea what was going to happen here. Was this just a massage I wondered!?.[/QUOTE]
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Bennys Hot Toc
I am an avid reader, but this is my first post. I thought I would share my experience at Bennys.
I was in HCM earlier this week from Tuesday to Saturday. After work on Tuesday, I had two hours to kill and decided to get a grab to Bennys Hot Toc. I stayed at the LE Meridien so it only took me 10 minutes to get there in a grab. The grab dropped me right off in the front. The door is wide open and is open to a mezzanine area. You can see the girls looking down at you when you walk in the front door. There is a security guard setting behind a desk and he motions me to walk up the stairs. Walking into the air conditioned room on the second floor, there were maybe 7 girls there. One of the girls motioned me to follow her but I said I wanted to pick the girl. She agreed and motioned the girls to look at me so I can have a better view. I took 10 seconds and picked the receptionist. She was maybe a 7/10 (my standards are high) but I thought had a nice shaped face and prettier than the other ones.
This girls' name was "Pi" and she led me to the room. She went and grabbed some wet naps and closed the curtains. She helped pull down my pants and lifted my shirt and cleaned the relevant parts. Man. This girl was good. I usually like to take my time in multiple positions and enjoy 30-40 minutes until exploding. However, I was not able to do that with this girl. She knew her craft and how to use that mouth of hers. She payed attention to all my parts and made full eye contact when she could. She had a good pair of tits but I've had better and didn't need to grab or touch her for excitement. I lasted maybe 25 minutes before coming in her mouth. I thought I was fast until I chatted with her afterwards. She joked and called me superman. During the deed, I heard several customers come in and go within 5-10 minutes.
Some other notes about Bennys.
1. Slurping sounds will be heard from the girls servicing other customers.
2. You can hold the girls head for more control of movement.
3. Name of the location "Bennys Hair Saloon" shows up in Grab.
4. As you exit the saloon, there are local restaurants to the right if you want to grab a quick snake or drink while waiting for your grab.
5. I went back two other times before flying back on Saturday at 4 PM (Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday).
6. There are maybe 4 booths with tables.
7. Great deal in my book. (450.000 VND).
See attached picture of what the location looks like from the outside.
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[QUOTE=PainAlplz;2246408]Thanks for detailed report. When you mention Hoang Sa are you referring to the large round-about that Mcdonalds is on or Hoang Sa along the canal? It takes all my concentration to avoid accidents while riding these streets, would like to minimize rubber necking as much as possible when looking for the shop.
Thanks again.[/QUOTE]Very hard to miss that, I live very close by. You were lucky, the one with the big boobs is 28 and has a son, the other lady there is older, has big racks as well but always TP's or tries to get 500 k. Also up for FS for 800 if you want but I highly don't recommend her, try to get the one you got. (Usually wears white).
This is really not the best place to go to, I recommend Hoang sa 875 more.
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Thanks for the feedback BinhThanh. Interesting report as to the women there. Perhaps I will try somewhere else but difficult as not nany places other than NPK in that area.
Can you give any more of a report on 875? Or other Hoang Sa places.
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[QUOTE=LiamViet;2247806]Thanks for the feedback BinhThanh. Interesting report as to the women there. Perhaps I will try somewhere else but difficult as not nany places other than NPK in that area.
Can you give any more of a report on 875? Or other Hoang Sa places.[/QUOTE]I am not sure how many people know about Kahnh Linh (a bit farther up from Bennys from the bridge, before the big intersection), they always have many girls and the price seems to be 4-500 k as usual for a foreigner. I have a reputation there to take 2 girls instead of 1, for 800 so it's OK. They sometimes offer FS but since I take 2 they never offer it. I am basically overpaying because I never need blowjobs, I don't want to get anything, I basically pay for a handjob the 400 k.
But their lineup is nice, although if you take 1 girl, be firm on 400 and even if she does well don't tip any extra. Benny's has a new policy, that you can't get undressed yourself, the girl has to do it, not sure what happened. And they raised prices to 450 BTW.
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877 Hoang Sa?
[QUOTE=BinhThanh;2247561]Very hard to miss that, I live very close by. You were lucky, the one with the big boobs is 28 and has a son, the other lady there is older, has big racks as well but always TP's or tries to get 500 k. Also up for FS for 800 if you want but I highly don't recommend her, try to get the one you got. (Usually wears white).
This is really not the best place to go to, I recommend Hoang sa 875 more.[/QUOTE]Hi BinhThanh,
Are you sure about the address? Cause I pass by there yesterday and found a Vietnamese restaurant instead. On the other hand, at 775 Hoang Sa, there is a massage place called "Tokyo Massage".
Has anyone experienced this one yet?
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Cafe Om.
Any "cafe om" to recommend? Price range? Never tried it after many years in Saigon and getting really curious about it!
Thanks for sharing guys!
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[QUOTE=MeoDen;2243672]Quite so. There is no standard price, there is no 'THE price'.
Agreed most hot tocs in SGN are 300 k, however I think it would be tough for a foreigner trying to pay less than 400 k at Tuan Tam, but not impossible. NPK got famous on the internet. In 2012 it was 200 k.
My comment about 400 k being a fair price there was made in the context of other punters regularly paying 500 k and more.[/QUOTE]I have no idea what you all are doing. I have never ever paid more than 200 k at any Hot Toc. 300 k quote and I would walk out. 400-500 k quotes are mind blowing.
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[QUOTE=Onuevos;2249798]I have no idea what you all are doing. I have never ever paid more than 200 k at any Hot Toc. 300 k quote and I would walk out. 400-500 k quotes are mind blowing.[/QUOTE]Well, you're getting good prices.
Please clarify, you mean the visit costs you 200 k?
Sorry that I have to ask this, but there are many who say they are charged or asked for something like 200 k but end up paying that plus extra, so walk out having handed over a total of 300 k or even more. It's a common method some punters use to mislead others and themselves as to how much they are actually paying.
It does depend on location. Not that long ago I paid 150 k for a coffee in a cafe om in My Tho followed by a BJ in a cubicle through the back. And yes, a local told me I was overcharged: for him it was 100 for the BJ and 20 for a coffee.
But to be clear, that's what we paid. 150 k for me and 120 k for him. No other undisclosed so-called 'tips' or payments to the girl or house.
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Benny's
This is the first time that I have been to one of these or to Vietnam in general. Was surprised at how easy it was and how easy the whole process was.
Walked into Benny's and was directed to the second floor. Many girls sitting there, but one got up and directed me. Was told that the girls there were beautiful and young on other websites. Maybe beauty is in the eye of the beholder because they weren't all that attractive. As such, I didn't care who provided the service.
The service itself was pretty good. She knew how to please a man. Wet wiped everywhere and started with a tongue bath on the nipples and work her way down. Overall, an ok experience.
Damage was 400 k and left happy. It may have been over priced, but I was told that it was on par for the area D1. As it is a first time, it didn't matter to me anyways.
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[QUOTE=Remduc;2249007]Hi BinhThanh,
Are you sure about the address? Cause I pass by there yesterday and found a Vietnamese restaurant instead. On the other hand, at 775 Hoang Sa, there is a massage place called "Tokyo Massage".
Has anyone experienced this one yet?[/QUOTE]Tokyo Massage. Stopped there 2 days ago, they quoted 1 m for normal massage and 1.5 m for Nuru massage. I asked for a price list, of course they had none, I walked, no lineup, no nothing (haven't asked though) but I highly suspect that it includes some funny stuff at least.
Hoang Sa: I can't recall the exact number but there are I think 2-3 HTGD shops right near 850-880 in-between the two surely.
I also tried Truong sa 1416 a but could not find it, 1414 a is a hot toc though but a legit one, spent 1 hour there getting a shave and a shampoo for 50 k LOL. I am sure money better spent than at 1416 A if it still exists: the.
Khanh Linh. Dien Bien Phu. For normal guys who pop easy I recommend this, many girls, mamasan speaks no English but at least willing to let go with 200 k only if I don't pop.
NPK: Haven't been there since a while, tried 2-3 shops, mixed success, I really wish someone to point me in a direction where a good handjob can be obtained. Girls usually get tired after 10 minutes which is a shame.
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[QUOTE=MeoDen;2250103]Well, you're getting good prices.
Please clarify, you mean the visit costs you 200 k?
Sorry that I have to ask this, but there are many who say they are charged or asked for something like 200 k but end up paying that plus extra, so walk out having handed over a total of 300 k or even more. It's a common method some punters use to mislead others and themselves as to how much they are actually paying.
It does depend on location. Not that long ago I paid 150 k for a coffee in a cafe om in My Tho followed by a BJ in a cubicle through the back. And yes, a local told me I was overcharged: for him it was 100 for the BJ and 20 for a coffee.
But to be clear, that's what we paid. 150 k for me and 120 k for him. No other undisclosed so-called 'tips' or payments to the girl or house.[/QUOTE]What is so difficult about this?
Every HTGD has a house fee. It is usually 100 - 150 k. On top of that you tip. A tip is by definition up to you. In HCMC the standard is up to the price of the ticket. No Vietnamese guys pay more than double the ticket. Neither do I. Neither should you. Why would you? You don't get better service.
There is no "quote". You know the price, so you pay it. If you ask for prices in Vietnam, you are asking to get ripped off. Pay the house fee and double it. That means you would never spend more than 300 k on a blowjob. At most places you pay 200 k. That's it.
You talk about paying $25 for full service at the place on Street 252 in PP, while others are paying 50-100 for no reason. So why do you over pay in HCMC? It's strange.
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[QUOTE=MeoDen;2243672]Quite so. There is no standard price, there is no 'THE price'.
Agreed most hot tocs in SGN are 300 k, however I think it would be tough for a foreigner trying to pay less than 400 k at Tuan Tam, but not impossible. NPK got famous on the internet. In 2012 it was 200 k.
My comment about 400 k being a fair price there was made in the context of other punters regularly paying 500 k and more.[/QUOTE]This time last year I went to Thien Phu hot toc on Nguyen Phi Khanh street after seeing this website: [URL]http://www.singlemanstravel.com/thien-phu-ho-chi-minh-city-vietnam/[/URL].
A chubby middle aged woman took me upstairs. Wasn't sure if it was her doing the deed. It was, I asked to change girls. While coming down saw a hot girl on a couch. Asked for her. We went in cubicle and she did expert deed. But every time her baps were touched it was a slap on the wrist.
I think the chubby middle aged woman wouldn't have minded. Guys, if you want foreplay go with one with a few miles on clock.
Paid around 300-400 k (including ticket). I tried my best to reduce to 300 k. Didn't budge. I've not been to a hot toc since. Just found the whole thing a bit rushed.
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- I really like 84 NPK. I like the BBBJWCIM. I hate it when they rush you. IMO, 84 NPK is a lot better than Bennys. I haven't been back to Bennys for several years, not after I found 84 NPK. Since I've been happy with 84 NPK, I never really explored the other ones on that street. Once I went to 84 NPK during Saturday evening. Talent was horrible. I left and came back early on a Sunday. Several cuties there. I was shocked by the cuteness. But I never saw those girls again. It seems the girls change a lot. It seems talent is better early in the day. Is that assessment correct? My theory is that a lot of girls are working the night shift on some other venue. That's why most of the girls are sleeping on the couches or on the kitchen floor when you come early.
- Never tried to haggle on the 400 K price. I once met an ex-pat, and I told him I like NPK. He said, "Nooo! Too expensive. Go to District 5".
- I felt bored / adventurous a few days. I read about the last 12 pages of this thread. I jotted down some places, and attempted to find them. Hoc Mon district was too far away from me. Couldn't find anything on Ngo Gia Tu, but that street is fairly long. Definitely nothing on Truong Sa and Hoang Sa, both short streets along the canal. Those seem to be normal cafes, unless I'm missing something. Oh well, an afternoon wasted.
- Decided to take the public bus, and stop by places that look promising. Found few. I will write down the exact addresses of these places. No fuckin BS where people say, "I don't want to share and ruin my place", or even worst is one asking money for the info. THIS SITE IS FOR SHARING OF FREE INFO!
During the afternoon, I took Bus No. 34 from the Pham Nhu Lao bus station. I went to a place that was listed as, "214 Pham Hung, Binh Hung, Binh Chanh, AP 4". It wasn't listed as a Hot Toc. It said, "Tron Goi 200,000". Google translates it as "All in". Went in and paid 200 K. There were 2 average, not bad looking girls. The one I took got totally naked. That never happens in a Hot Toc. She brought a tube of of lube, and her pussy was well lubricated. It seems FS is available. I only wanted a BBBJWCIM. I ask for rimming. She wanted a tip. I said 100 K. She said OK. She was very happy with that tip. Does this place having no tipping, with 200 K all in price for FS? Wow.
Note: Google map will put 214 Pham Hung far away, north on the same street. Same problem trying to find Bennys. There's 2 businesses with the same number. You need more identifying info. But the place next door, 218 Pham Hung, comes up. This place is kind of across the street from Kim Dental.
Another obvious BJ Hot Toc is a little south of 214 Pham Hung. It has a sign that says, "Hot Toc May Lanh". Next door, the address displayed is, "C7/21 AB Pham Hung".
I took Bus 140 from the Pham Ngu Lao bus station. Finally found a Cafe OM. Just wanted to experience it.
Place is Cafe 714. It is on 714 Pham The Hien. There is a door at the entrance. It was one large dark room with chairs. 6 or 7 girls there. I ordered a coke. That girl, and the others were slightly below average. Good thing it was dark. Before the girl opened the coke, she asked, Cafe Om? I said yes by hugging her. Only fondling available. No BJs. The girl wanted 200 K. Wondering if that is the local price.
Another obvious place is at 698 Pham The Hien. There was one girl in front. She wanted to go the back. But she was on the ugly side. I passed. Wondering if more girls were in the back, or if more girls come at night, since these places cater to locals
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In HCMC, the address must include the district
Addresses in HCMC can confuse people because the same street address, meaning same street name and street number, exists in different places. It's because they are in different district, that's why all address will have the district (in vietnamese quan, or Q) and subdistrict (in vietnamese phuong or P). So it's best to report an address with its Q and P number, a Q can also be a name by the way.
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Note: Google map will put 214 Pham Hung far away, north on the same street. Same problem trying to find Bennys. There's 2 businesses with the same number. You need more identifying info. But the place next door, 218 Pham Hung, comes up. This place is kind of across the street from Kim Dental.
Another obvious BJ Hot Toc is a little south of 214 Pham Hung. It has a sign that says, "Hot Toc May Lanh". Next door, the address displayed is, "C7/21 AB Pham Hung".
I took Bus 140 from the Pham Ngu Lao bus station. Finally found a Cafe OM. Just wanted to experience it.
Another obvious place is at 698 Pham The Hien. There was one girl in front. She wanted to go the back. But she was on the ugly side. I passed. Wondering if more girls were in the back, or if more girls come at night, since these places cater to locals[/QUOTE]
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Visit with GF.
Can you take your GF to these BJ cafes and let them wait or watch? Can you get a girl or guy to eat your GF?
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Benny. First Time Visitor - 450 k.
First time to SGN (except a short backpacking stay ten years ago without any sex). Keeping it short:
Place can easily be found through Google Maps (Benny Hair Salon). Walked there as it was close by a cafe I went to before. Way back I took a motorbike through Grab. The place has a sign so cannot be missed.
Walked in, was led upstairs, and a girl asked me to follow her. Asked to pick a girl instead and chose the only one that I thought was cute. Total of 5 girls there all around 30+ and average looking. No stunners. Only my girl was a bit younger (25) and cute. Was around noon time.
Was led into one of the cubicles where the action happens. It's really only a BJ bar. Basically the same you can find in Bangkok. No different at all.
Girl asked me pay 450 k. I wanted to pay 300 k but she wouldn't budge so I just paid.
Laid down, clothes on, she only moved down my pants and my shirt a bit up. Was cleaned using wet paper towels which felt too cold. Would probably be more hygienic and comfortable if they just used warm water. She moved down her bra so I could see her nice boobs and also moved down her panties so I could play with her pussy. Overall she was quite pretty with a perfect body, except of a little bit of belly fat.
BBBJ was OK, but in the end I came through her using her hand while blowing me. Altogether nothing I would have to repeat. I normally don't visit BJ bars anyways.
P.S: Highly recommend to use Grab for motorbikes. Super easy and convenient. Living in Bangkok, I never saw a point using Grab and always thought it's mostly good for tourists who don't know the prices and language. No need to explain where you want to go or to negotiate a fare. Just put pickup and final destination into the app, wait for the driver, hop on and pay the price the app showed you when booking the ride. Couldn't be easier. And they all have a helmet for you.
[QUOTE=RickRock;2258228]What is so difficult about this?
Every HTGD has a house fee. It is usually 100 - 150 k. On top of that you tip. A tip is by definition up to you. In HCMC the standard is up to the price of the ticket. No Vietnamese guys pay more than double the ticket. Neither do I. Neither should you. Why would you? You don't get better service.
There is no "quote". You know the price, so you pay it. If you ask for prices in Vietnam, you are asking to get ripped off. Pay the house fee and double it. That means you would never spend more than 300 k on a blowjob. At most places you pay 200 k. That's it.
You talk about paying $25 for full service at the place on Street 252 in PP, while others are paying 50-100 for no reason. So why do you over pay in HCMC? It's strange.[/QUOTE]I wanted to follow your advice but there was no house fee or ticket. I was asked to pay 450 k in full to the girl directly before the action.
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Information For Sharing
- BusMap is a very good App for the public bus system for Ho Chi Minh. Only 5K or 6K. It seems you need to get out of District 1 to get lower prices.
- Thanh Thuy Hot Toc. Address: 15a Nguyen Hong, P1, Q:Go Vap. At least 5 girls. Mine was decent. BBBJ, but no CIM. Bummer. She offered FS. Is that normal for that place? No ticket. I gave her 200K. No reaction from her.
- Close by at 19? Nguyen Hong, there is a potential cafe. I suspect because the chairs were hidden.
- Close by is Massage Tieu Long Nui at 132 Tran Quoc Tuan. It looked promising because there was a tout in front.
- Massage place at 331 Nguyen Qanh, P17, Q:Go Vap. Massage tickets were between 100 to 800K. Clerk recommended the 300K ticket because the girl takes off her clothes. The room was old, but it had a tub and a steam room. BBBJ. Didn't ask about full service. Cost is more than a Hot Toc, but it seems you get more time. Girl was marginal. I left early. Gave 200K tip. She wanted 100K more. Did I under tip? Place is accessible via Bus No. 3.
- Mai Trang Massage at 740 Quang Trung, P8, Q:Go Vap. Didn't go in, but it looked promising because it was 100K for VIP massage at a grungy looking place. Next door is 2 more massage places that looked more upscale. Accessible via Bus No. 18.
- I listed massage places on this forum because the massage forum talks about hand jobs with 1 million dong tip. Probably upscale in District 1.
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[QUOTE=Amnesia;2268297]I wanted to follow your advice but there was no house fee or ticket. I was asked to pay 450 k in full to the girl directly before the action.[/QUOTE]Don't worry. It's not really your fault.
The problem is that's not really how it works. But foreigners have set it up so that some now think they can do this with white guys. In reality you pay AFTER. You can give a tip to the girl than pay the ticket to mom. Or you pay all to the mom and she gives the tip to your girl. Or you pay all to your girl. This works when you know the ticket price in advance. Then you just walk in and grab whoever you want. If they see that you're a newbie they will take advantage of you. Because this is Vietnam.
Funny thing is if you get away from the places where they see all the foreigners, they don't even know how to rip you off properly yet. So they won't even ask for the money up front. They just assume you know how it works since you're already there.
They only ask up front in places like Benny's and the NPK HTGD now because thousands of foreigners have wandered in looking clueless and asking "how much?
Next time, go to a place other than NPK or Benny's. They're not hard to find. Then just walk in. Grab the girl you like most, not whoever they try to push on you. Go to the room. Get head. Pay all to the girl after you're finished. All means 200 - 300 K. Usually 200. Then you walk out. They'll respect you as a seasoned old hand, and you'll be paying the proper rates.
I have been to HTGD literally hundreds of times and I have never paid up front even once.
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[QUOTE=Amnesia;2268297]P.S: Highly recommend to use Grab for motorbikes. Super easy and convenient. Living in Bangkok, I never saw a point using Grab and always thought it's mostly good for tourists who don't know the prices and language. No need to explain where you want to go or to negotiate a fare. Just put pickup and final destination into the app, wait for the driver, hop on and pay the price the app showed you when booking the ride. Couldn't be easier. And they all have a helmet for you.[/QUOTE]Grab Car is better, more comfortable, much safer. Price is usually like a dollar or two. Why would you bother choking on exhaust fumes in HCMC traffic or worse waiting for a bus? To save fifty cents?
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What time do these places open at?
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[QUOTE=Bopski;2276832]What time do these places open at?[/QUOTE]Normally around noon time, like 11 am, these girls wake up late, because they work until late.
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[QUOTE=DavidCohen;2276869]Normally around noon time, like 11 am, these girls wake up late, because they work until late.[/QUOTE]Thank you. Just got here from nha trang which I found the mongering non existent. However I've been spoilt by living in Pattaya for the last 5 years hoping the Saigon scene is good!
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Depends on the place. Some of them open early morning and close around 9 or 10. Most in the heart of the city open about 10-11 and close about 12 hour later.
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I found out that 2 pm is the best time. In the morning some girls might still sleep so early afternoon they are all there and you might be the first customer of the day which is always better than get your dick sucked after 10 local guys.
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[QUOTE=Bopski;2276905]Thank you. Just got here from nha trang which I found the mongering non existent. However I've been spoilt by living in Pattaya for the last 5 years hoping the Saigon scene is good![/QUOTE]Seriouosly? Nha Trang is filled with hookers.
[URL]http://www.jakarta100bars.com/2016/04/nha-trang-nightlife-vietnam.html[/URL]
You won't like HCMC if you didn't like Nhat Trang, or if Pattaya is your departure point. Vietnam isn't like Thailand. There's just as much prostitution. But very little of it is designed for westerners or comes with flashing neon lights and police overwatchers.
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[QUOTE=RickRock;2277251]Seriouosly? Nha Trang is filled with hookers.
[URL]http://www.jakarta100bars.com/2016/04/nha-trang-nightlife-vietnam.html[/URL]
You won't like HCMC if you didn't like Nhat Trang, or if Pattaya is your departure point. Vietnam isn't like Thailand. There's just as much prostitution. But very little of it is designed for westerners or comes with flashing neon lights and police overwatchers.[/QUOTE]Pool bar is no longer there, sailing club full of Russians, most sky bars empty and the local night clubs were full of Vietnamese blokes. Sure you had your rub and tug joints. This was only last week!
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[QUOTE=Bopski;2277408]Pool bar is no longer there, sailing club full of Russians, most sky bars empty and the local night clubs were full of Vietnamese blokes. Sure you had your rub and tug joints. This was only last week![/QUOTE]I don't go to night clubs, so I wouldn't know about that. But there are a lot of prostitutes in Nha Trang. Many massage parlors including a few full service places. Never had problems there at all.
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First time at NPK.
Thanks to the people that gave reviews and shared enough information to guide my trip to 84 Nguyen Phi Khanh. I took a grab there after reading up the price, how it works, and etiquette on how to approach it. Honestly I should've picked the girl because I ended with with a chubby one and left all the cute ones. Went upstairs and to a room with other customers getting serviced, I speak to my girl with what broken Vietnamese I have and she gives me a nice 3 minute massage and turns me around, wipes me down with something that resembled a Clorox disinfectant wipe, and proceeds to dive in and slurp the shit out of my nipples. As she's going on the nipples, she's rubbing my balls while swirling her hand over my dick like a magician about to pull a fucking rabbit out of her hat and takes that slurping technique and moves down and completely makes my cock disappear in those chubby cheeks like a hamster. After the deed is finished, I drop her 400 k and she smiles and thanks me, I'm also glad cause I heard some guys get taken for way more. So afterward I got to all downstairs and see myself out and while I'm walking out. I see even more cute girls that were probably finished with their clients, these new ones had a good sized chest, nice black hair tied back, nice creamy skin, and all staring into their phones. I wish I could've came in a little earlier to score one of these girls. Oh well, maybe next week when I come back to Saigon.
Oh yeah, if you guys are visiting on New Years (Tet) they're getting new girls and will be open!
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[QUOTE=RickRock;2275366]Don't worry. It's not really your fault.
The problem is that's not really how it works. But foreigners have set it up so that some now think they can do this with white guys. In reality you pay AFTER. You can give a tip to the girl than pay the ticket to mom. Or you pay all to the mom and she gives the tip to your girl. Or you pay all to your girl. This works when you know the ticket price in advance. Then you just walk in and grab whoever you want. If they see that you're a newbie they will take advantage of you. Because this is Vietnam.
Funny thing is if you get away from the places where they see all the foreigners, they don't even know how to rip you off properly yet. So they won't even ask for the money up front. They just assume you know how it works since you're already there.
They only ask up front in places like Benny's and the NPK HTGD now because thousands of foreigners have wandered in looking clueless and asking "how much?.[/QUOTE]Amen to that and as a general rule everywhere in the world once you paid you are screwed and won't get good service. Golden rule: always pay after for P4P or go away.
I used to go to NPK when it was 250 k without discussion and always paid after. Would be shocked to go there now if anybody would ask me 400 k upfront.
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Still didn't find.
Still looking for nice Cafe Om as I haven't try it yet and don't want to be disappointed for my first experience.
Any place to suggest guys? Price?
Much appreciated!
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[QUOTE=Remduc;2284950]Still looking for nice Cafe Om as I haven't try it yet and don't want to be disappointed for my first experience.
Any place to suggest guys? Price?
Much appreciated![/QUOTE]I can answer the price tho I haven't gone for about 6 months its around 150 k for a quick 15-20 min BJ incl the drink, then there are cafe om which the gal sits on your lap and you can grope her for as long as you like though she butterflies around after 30 mins you will probably be bored, that also is around 150 k as the drink is 50 k then you tip 100 k. I have been here in Vietnam since 2008 when it was around 80 k total and with work you can find 7-8's, now its really hard to find attractive girls so I have stopped as for 300 k you can find similar girls to FS and get a BJ. I might revisit the places I know to see how much it has declined and sometime and no I won't go into further details.
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[QUOTE=TripScale;2280054]After the deed is finished, I drop her 400 k and she smiles and thanks me, I'm also glad cause I heard some guys get taken for way more.[/QUOTE]What guys? How much more?? 400 k is already an overpay.
How do you get "taken for more" exactly? The ticket fee for the place is the only price that's actually set. Anything over that is a tip. By definition, how much you tip is up to you: the tipper.
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[QUOTE=RickRock;2285129]What guys? How much more?? 400 k is already an overpay.
How do you get "taken for more" exactly? The ticket fee for the place is the only price that's actually set. Anything over that is a tip. By definition, how much you tip is up to you: the tipper.[/QUOTE]A white friend of mine that paid a visit to Bennys last year told me they got him for 550 k. Also read through the earlier 806 posts and they too mention 3-400 k. At NPK, I was told 400 k from the girl I was with. If that is too much, what is the average amount to be paying?
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[QUOTE=MutantChicken;2285012]I can answer the price tho I haven't gone for about 6 months its around 150 k for a quick 15-20 min BJ incl the drink, then there are cafe om which the gal sits on your lap and you can grope her for as long as you like though she butterflies around after 30 mins you will probably be bored, that also is around 150 k as the drink is 50 k then you tip 100 k. I have been here in Vietnam since 2008 when it was around 80 k total and with work you can find 7-8's, now its really hard to find attractive girls so I have stopped as for 300 k you can find similar girls to FS and get a BJ. I might revisit the places I know to see how much it has declined and sometime and no I won't go into further details.[/QUOTE]What s the point to tell about prices if you don't give further details? Either you say nothing or you say everything. I thought this board was about information exchange?
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[QUOTE=IAmTheBest007;2285298]What s the point to tell about prices if you don't give further details? Either you say nothing or you say everything. I thought this board was about information exchange?[/QUOTE]I don't see anywhere saying either I say nothing or I say everything seem you feel its a dictatorship where its under compulsion to reveal everything, that's funny when it seems post posters are here asking for information and not giving back anything the key word is exchange is it not, that implies a two way direction.
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[QUOTE=TripScale;2285268]A white friend of mine that paid a visit to Bennys last year told me they got him for 550 k. Also read through the earlier 806 posts and they too mention 3-400 k. At NPK, I was told 400 k from the girl I was with. If that is too much, what is the average amount to be paying?[/QUOTE]Yes, 400 k is overpay but you are quoted that only if you go Benny or Kahn Linh further up. The best places are the ones for 200 k altogether and the girl is happy even if she just has to do a handjob and not bjcim for it.
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[QUOTE=IAmTheBest007;2285298]What s the point to tell about prices if you don't give further details? Either you say nothing or you say everything. I thought this board was about information exchange?[/QUOTE]It used to be. The results were that blowjobs went from 80 k to over 400 k. So you'll understand why people don't give information out here so freely anymore.
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[QUOTE=TripScale;2285268]A white friend of mine that paid a visit to Bennys last year told me they got him for 550 k. Also read through the earlier 806 posts and they too mention 3-400 k. At NPK, I was told 400 k from the girl I was with. If that is too much, what is the average amount to be paying?[/QUOTE]It's been explained many times.
Each shop has a ticket price. That's the price. It can be 80 k to maybe maximum 175 k.
Anything else is a tip. Tips are, by definition, up to the tipper.
I usually pay 200 k all together in a hot toc. I don't ask how much. I don't walk in looking for a menu. I give the money on the way out and leave. And they always welcome me back to suck me off again.
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D2 Hot Toc.
Hi guys,
At the risk of maybe increasing the price of my local htgd I'm going to share them because I'd like to find more places and if I see another post about Bennys or NPK I'ma freak!! So both of these places are on Tran Nao in D2, Vinh Tu is number 33 I think and on the side if your driving towards Thao Dien. Usual thing it's a small crap looking place and I think girls 30 + but no messing around. Straight in they pull down their top showing their big 30+ tits and drop their panties and encourage a full roam around. Good BJ but never CIM, when finished they tidy you up and just hand the girl 200 k and walk out. Next place is on the opposite side, don't know the number you will see the small Hot Toc sign outside. Nice girls here of different ages but this place is old so if you don't like a rough looking place I wouldn't advise it. Anyway literally the exact same as across the road but the BJ not as good in my experience. On the way out just hand the girl 200 k.
It would be great if people shared 1 place and then someone recommended a place. Happy Hot Tocs guys.
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[QUOTE=SgnShgr;1802653]The HT's are Thien Phuc at 86 Tran Nao and Vihn Thu at 35 b Tran Nao.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JD468;1802525]It helps if you give the exact location and name SgnShgr.
One of the shops is called Vinh Tu, from memory it is around 39 or 37 Tran Nao. 350 k in total (ticket and tip) should do the trick. I have had some good CIM action there, but also some cum in a tissue type experiences. If you find a girl that is good in this place, stick with her as the service levels fluctuate a lot in this shop. The one that closed down a few months ago was near the big petrol station. I am not aware of a 3rd one, but will have a closer look in the next few weeks and provide the exact details.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=CheapChips;2286693]Hi guys,
At the risk of maybe increasing the price of my local htgd I'm going to share them because I'd like to find more places and if I see another post about Bennys or NPK I'ma freak!! So both of these places are on Tran Nao in D2, Vinh Tu is number 33 I think and on the side if your driving towards Thao Dien. Usual thing it's a small crap looking place and I think girls 30 + but no messing around. Straight in they pull down their top showing their big 30+ tits and drop their panties and encourage a full roam around. Good BJ but never CIM, when finished they tidy you up and just hand the girl 200 k and walk out. Next place is on the opposite side, don't know the number you will see the small Hot Toc sign outside. Nice girls here of different ages but this place is old so if you don't like a rough looking place I wouldn't advise it. Anyway literally the exact same as across the road but the BJ not as good in my experience. On the way out just hand the girl 200 k.
It would be great if people shared 1 place and then someone recommended a place. Happy Hot Tocs guys.[/QUOTE]Sorry you are not sharing you are re-sharing or merely disseminating old info that has been shared previously.
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[QUOTE=MutantChicken;2286950]Sorry you are not sharing you are re-sharing or merely disseminating old info that has been shared previously.[/QUOTE]Hahaha one of your quoted posts was from 2015 on page 26 so my apologies for not going back 26 pages and 4 years to make sure my report wasn't previously mentioned!
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[QUOTE=CheapChips;2287131]Hahaha one of your quoted posts was from 2015 on page 26 so my apologies for not going back 26 pages and 4 years to make sure my report wasn't previously mentioned![/QUOTE]So according to JD468 it was 350 already in 2015 how come it would be 200 now? Just wondering if this place still exists. Can somebody confirm it?
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[QUOTE=IAmTheBest007;2287208]So according to JD468 it was 350 already in 2015 how come it would be 200 now? Just wondering if this place still exists. Can somebody confirm it?[/QUOTE]I would have thought someone who is Thebest007 would have known about something that was publically posted about 2015 and was intimately aware of it, so you should be the one to confirm or deny its existence.
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[QUOTE=IAmTheBest007;2287208]So according to JD468 it was 350 already in 2015 how come it would be 200 now? Just wondering if this place still exists. Can somebody confirm it?[/QUOTE]Confirm still open, as for the price I wasn't around then but if 400 k is considered high now I'm guessing 350 k was high then. Maybe someone from that time can info more on that. A nice crisp 200 k handed to the ladies on the way out always does the trick for me. I was in 86 Tran Nao just before Tet and paid 200 k on the way out. As I said I never got CIM in either place with any girls and the guy who paid 350 k did. I know the girls know me now so maybe I don't get the Royal treatment because they know what they get!!
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[QUOTE=CheapChips;2287272]Confirm still open, as for the price I wasn't around then but if 400 k is considered high now I'm guessing 350 k was high then. Maybe someone from that time can info more on that. A nice crisp 200 k handed to the ladies on the way out always does the trick for me. I was in 86 Tran Nao just before Tet and paid 200 k on the way out. As I said I never got CIM in either place with any girls and the guy who paid 350 k did. I know the girls know me now so maybe I don't get the Royal treatment because they know what they get!![/QUOTE]Thanks CC for your feedback I appreciate it.
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So this thread is only for HCMC right? I don't see anything for Hanoi.
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Nguyen Thi Dinh D2.
Hello all,
Quick report on HT on nguyen Thi Dinh in D2. It is a bit out of the way and I'm not sure of the number, it is in the 30's. It's a pink shop with big bike parking inside with usual hot toc signage. If you're coming from Hanoi highway it is just on the left as you come onto Nguyen thi dinh. I don't know why I'm going into so much detail explaining location because I don't recommend it. The girl was in her 30's with good boobs but skills very bad. Did the job but just not the way I like. I didn't see any other girls but I did hear one sucking beside me, maybe only 2 girls work here and maybe the other is stunning with the best BJ in the world. Doubt it though. So in the end I walk out and pay 200 k, wouldn't return but if anyone knows the place and says other girls are good I might pop back.
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Good info.
Cheapchips, some good info there. Tran nao would recommend vinh tu but not 86. Vinh tu was good. Does what you want for a hot toc. Went in. Washed me down thoroughly. Dropped her top and lifted skirt. Asked for a hand job no blow. Started HJ. Gave a ball suck but couldn't resist sucking LOL. Told her to just HJ only. Cum in to tissue. Cleaned up and she asked again to repeat. Wasnt sure how my soldier would react straight away so declined but thinking she would have went again for second shot if wanted. 200 k on way out. One lady said 300 k trying her luck and I laughed and gave 200 k.
Tried 86 but disgusting environment and rushed, unpleasant experience tbh.
Found another place down one of the hems on the even number side of the road. On tran nao few hems in from roundabout. Will revisit and check. Massage sign and few people outside on chairs. Drive straight in and then walk upstairs. No sign of price or what girls are like but will try tomorrow and report.
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[QUOTE=LiamViet;2293617]Cheapchips, some good info there. Tran nao would recommend vinh tu but not 86. Vinh tu was good. Does what you want for a hot toc. Went in. Washed me down thoroughly. Dropped her top and lifted skirt. Asked for a hand job no blow. Started HJ. Gave a ball suck but couldn't resist sucking LOL. Told her to just HJ only. Cum in to tissue. Cleaned up and she asked again to repeat. Wasnt sure how my soldier would react straight away so declined but thinking she would have went again for second shot if wanted. 200 k on way out. One lady said 300 k trying her luck and I laughed and gave 200 k.
Tried 86 but disgusting environment and rushed, unpleasant experience tbh.
Found another place down one of the hems on the even number side of the road. On tran nao few hems in from roundabout. Will revisit and check. Massage sign and few people outside on chairs. Drive straight in and then walk upstairs. No sign of price or what girls are like but will try tomorrow and report.[/QUOTE]Yes agree 86 is run down! It could be the worst. So if anyone is into that kinda thing you know where to go LOL!
This place you are talking about down a hem, is it VIP massage type place? If so I think I was at the one you are talking about. It was cheap, I think 100 k for massage and 200 k tip paid to the guy. I tip the girl a little too, can't remember how much now but I'm cheap chips so I promise you it wasn't much! Usual steam room and a wash followed by massage and HJ / BJ. Overall it was OK, wouldn't return though I just prefer the efficiency of a hot toc!
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Nguyen Thi Dinh.
When in town I always go to this street. They are many HT's, maybe 20 or more.
The most are small, with only one or two girls and not the best looking girls.
But they are experienced cock suckers, who also suck your balls and lick your asshole.
Make sure that you CIM and pay only 200.
I know also some other HT Streets, with 100 % nude and better looking girls.
But the service is not so good and most don't lick asshole.
Always the same story's about Benny and NPK is very boring.
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Sounds great, mate. What are some of the other streets? These are district 2 places?
Cheers.
[QUOTE=FredFun;2301612]When in town I always go to this street. They are many HT's, maybe 20 or more.
The most are small, with only one or two girls and not the best looking girls.
But they are experienced cock suckers, who also suck your balls and lick your asshole.
Make sure that you CIM and pay only 200.
I know also some other HT Streets, with 100 % nude and better looking girls.
But the service is not so good and most don't lick asshole.
Always the same story's about Benny and NPK is very boring.[/QUOTE]
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BJ Cafe in Hanoi
Are there any BJ CAFE in Hanoi? Or any Full service massage places in Hanoi? Unfortunately I don't speak Vietnamese, and visiting Hanoi few times a year. Any help will be apriciated. You can PM me if you can't post that information here.
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[QUOTE=BlueBaron;2303749]Sounds great, mate. What are some of the other streets? These are district 2 places?
Cheers.[/QUOTE]The other streets are in Distric 7, 8 and other.
Where do you go to let you suck off?
Please write also a report.
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Girlie bars.
Can someone suggest some bars that you can drink and touch the girls as much as you like? Where should I stay to be close to these type of bars? Some name of bars or addresses? Thanks!
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I went to try my usual near Hoang Sa but was shut, Bnys on DBP last night I rode too far past it so tried Khanh L a bit more up. Drove up ramp and straight in. Approached by 1 girl and went with her. Pretty gloomy room but did the job. Got a good suck job and ball lick and HJ. Didn't last long with little soldier. Paid on way out going rate. Off I went. Try khanh L same Road as Bnys.
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[QUOTE=LiamViet;2306250]I went to try my usual near Hoang Sa but was shut, Bnys on DBP last night I rode too far past it so tried Khanh L a bit more up. Drove up ramp and straight in. Approached by 1 girl and went with her. Pretty gloomy room but did the job. Got a good suck job and ball lick and HJ. Didn't last long with little soldier. Paid on way out going rate. Off I went. Try khanh L same Road as Bnys.[/QUOTE]I wonder if that is 400 for you like every foreigner now or less.
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[QUOTE=LiamViet;2306250]I went to try my usual near Hoang Sa but was shut, Bnys on DBP last night I rode too far past it so tried Khanh L a bit more up. Drove up ramp and straight in. Approached by 1 girl and went with her. Pretty gloomy room but did the job. Got a good suck job and ball lick and HJ. Didn't last long with little soldier. Paid on way out going rate. Off I went. Try khanh L same Road as Bnys.[/QUOTE]I literally just got back from hoang SA at 1 am now, I remember one being open nonstop, had pinkish decor and glass outside. But now found none, maybe that was your regular place. Also it was too late for the 850-ish other 2 hot tocs to be open. I wonder where the talent moves.
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Perhaps I got there too early then? Although I'm usually asleep at 1 am LOL.
This one is in the early 100's I think. Odd number side. Corner next to an eatery and a hotel. They always seem next to hotels. Do they ever go next store for a room? Should ask next time I'm free for an hour or so.
How much should khanh l be charging then? I paid that rate too.
A friend said there is somewhere bit further on DBP too but not sure if that is where he meant or another place? Info?
[QUOTE=BinhThanh;2306474]I literally just got back from hoang SA at 1 am now, I remember one being open nonstop, had pinkish decor and glass outside. But now found none, maybe that was your regular place. Also it was too late for the 850-ish other 2 hot tocs to be open. I wonder where the talent moves.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=FredFun;2301612]When in town I always go to this street. They are many HT's, maybe 20 or more.
The most are small, with only one or two girls and not the best looking girls.
But they are experienced cock suckers, who also suck your balls and lick your asshole.
Make sure that you CIM and pay only 200.
I know also some other HT Streets, with 100 % nude and better looking girls.
But the service is not so good and most don't lick asshole.
Always the same story's about Benny and NPK is very boring.[/QUOTE]Not bad street but two places I tried, one shitty quality shampoo followed by a 4 minute handjob which after she stopped complaining of arm strain (she was nice as personality, but 2 kid mom as with all the places on this street so far) then she just hugged and played with my nipples and moan in Vietnamese while I jerked off on her belly.
I know I am not a quick one but 4-5 minutes is unheard of at npk or bennys, okay, its 400 k there but at least you can take your time as 30 minutes. Most girls complain (I don't think it's just time pressure because one bui vien massage girl who has been doing it for years with foreigners and ha SA fucking card reader machine in her room to accept visa and MasterCard for FS, unbelievable LOL, I could not believe in my eyes. Even she told me why haven't I cum yet because usually it's 4-5 minutes for guys. And I am like WTF, seriously? I know I am not a quick type but all you guys finish in 5-10 minutes? OO I wish ffs.
No ass licking BTW, but asked me whether I want FS (showing a condom and google translating on her phone "do you want to go out" which was not super clear until she showed the condom.
She was a 4/10 BTW but I don't really go for looks.
Next time I try one of the bigger looking places and get 2 girls.
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[QUOTE=FredFun;2305823]The other streets are in Distric 7, 8 and other.
Where do you go to let you suck off?
Please write also a report.[/QUOTE]District 8, Pham Hung street, before reach to Nguyen Van Linh street. Can find some OK girls in some shops there, quite a few hot tocs plus one massage place that's also BJ place. Price about 200 usually.
Hope you can be a little more specific with your info. Which street in D2? Have to give the name of the streets OK? So I can read what you write and go find it.
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[QUOTE=LiamViet;2306661]Perhaps I got there too early then? Although I'm usually asleep at 1 am LOL.
This one is in the early 100's I think. Odd number side. Corner next to an eatery and a hotel. They always seem next to hotels. Do they ever go next store for a room? Should ask next time I'm free for an hour or so.
How much should khanh l be charging then? I paid that rate too.
A friend said there is somewhere bit further on DBP too but not sure if that is where he meant or another place? Info?[/QUOTE]Ah yes, I know that one, it's 77. Strangely it has been closed for many days now. I don't know who you used from there, the oldest gal has the most experience (and okay big boobs) and always upsells FS for 1 mil. But I don't like that she always time pressures, even at 500 k price. So I promised myself not to go, sometimes I stop and ask 2 girls for 600 k total but they always say 800. Well, I hope they closed for not getting business. 600 k for only handjob not even blowjob and 10 minutes of effort should be OK.
I wish I found a place where they do good oily handjob for fucks sake. (Spa 49 so far the best when 4 hands massage for it but it's way too expensive. If some hot toc would do it for 4-500 k with 2 girls, would be awesome and I don't think it's too much to ask for.) Even back in Europe you can get a decent handjob for 15 euros.
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[QUOTE=LiamViet;2306661]Perhaps I got there too early then? Although I'm usually asleep at 1 am LOL.
This one is in the early 100's I think. Odd number side. Corner next to an eatery and a hotel. They always seem next to hotels. Do they ever go next store for a room? Should ask next time I'm free for an hour or so.
How much should khanh l be charging then? I paid that rate too.
A friend said there is somewhere bit further on DBP too but not sure if that is where he meant or another place? Info?[/QUOTE]Sorry to answer in to replies, I did not notice your question. I don't think there is another one above Khanh Linh, although I think the quality of the girls is better there than at Bennys. Bennys I dropped when at the second time being there it took 15 minutes to understand that the girl doesn't want me to undress and SHE will need to do it. Wtf: the.
So DBP is kinda a no on htgd. If you want cheap action, go to ngoc diep near phan van tri near emart, or actually near NPK, but the park side of the hems, there is a place which has 3-4 okay looking girls. They have a hot toc ray tai goi dau led square stuff outside, and let me check the gmaps coordinates. I think it's cheaper than npk but I was there only once and because the girl was so cute (I still finished for myself tho) I was ok with giving 400 because it was an hour almost and she tried to massage and shit, a bit of GFE but not super cool. So I think they do 300 maybe, if you follow up, let me know.
Its here, small street, you will see the sign right away. Don't get the skinny girl with tatoo and no boobs, she is bad but giggly at least. 43 Huỳnh Khư417;ng Ninh, Đa Kao, Quậand 1, Hồ Chí Minh, Vietnam.
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[QUOTE=MutantChicken;2285012]I can answer the price tho I haven't gone for about 6 months its around 150 k for a quick 15-20 min BJ incl the drink, then there are cafe om which the gal sits on your lap and you can grope her for as long as you like though she butterflies around after 30 mins you will probably be bored, that also is around 150 k as the drink is 50 k then you tip 100 k. I have been here in Vietnam since 2008 when it was around 80 k total and with work you can find 7-8's, now its really hard to find attractive girls so I have stopped as for 300 k you can find similar girls to FS and get a BJ. I might revisit the places I know to see how much it has declined and sometime and no I won't go into further details.[/QUOTE]I am not sure that these café om places exist. No one has even been to once in the past 5 years. I haven't been able to find a place where the girls sits and fondles in a bar or café anywhere in Vietnam. Hope I am proven wrong.
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[QUOTE=BinhThanh;2306670]Not bad street but two places I tried, one shitty quality shampoo followed by a 4 minute handjob which after she stopped complaining of arm strain (she was nice as personality, but 2 kid mom as with all the places on this street so far) then she just hugged and played with my nipples and moan in Vietnamese while I jerked off on her belly.
I know I am not a quick one but 4-5 minutes is unheard of at npk or bennys, okay, its 400 k there but at least you can take your time as 30 minutes. Most girls complain (I don't think it's just time pressure because one bui vien massage girl who has been doing it for years with foreigners and ha SA fucking card reader machine in her room to accept visa and MasterCard for FS, unbelievable LOL, I could not believe in my eyes. Even she told me why haven't I cum yet because usually it's 4-5 minutes for guys. And I am like WTF, seriously? I know I am not a quick type but all you guys finish in 5-10 minutes? OO I wish ffs.
No ass licking BTW, but asked me whether I want FS (showing a condom and google translating on her phone "do you want to go out" which was not super clear until she showed the condom.
She was a 4/10 BTW but I don't really go for looks.
Next time I try one of the bigger looking places and get 2 girls.[/QUOTE]Thi Dinh ist a long street. If you coming from D2 better try the HT's at the end of the street. The HT's at the beginning of the street looking better but the service ist not so good, sometimes only handjob. The other HT's are more run down and dirtier but the service ist much better. Standard method is panties down, shirt up, play with pussy and ass, squeeze the tits, then the girl can start withe the blowjob. Don't forget to let lick your balls and asshole and later CIM. 30 min should be no problem. If you cum very fast have a break and stick your finger in the pussy, some girls like it. When you CIM give the girl 200 and have a nice day.
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[QUOTE=BlueBaron;2307121]District 8, Pham Hung street, before reach to Nguyen Van Linh street. Can find some OK girls in some shops there, quite a few hot tocs plus one massage place that's also BJ place. Price about 200 usually.
Hope you can be a little more specific with your info. Which street in D2? Have to give the name of the streets OK? So I can read what you write and go find it.[/QUOTE]In D2 I only know Thi Dinh and Tran Nao. Tran Nao are only 3 or 4 Hot Toc's.
I saw the HT's in Pham Hung street but never try one. Provide the girls CIM and ass licking? How is the massage place and do you know the name?
Nearby in ql 50 you can also find some HT's. If you go more far outside the town you can also find 3 or 4 cafe oms. To get a blowjob while you drink a coffee you can only find in Vietnam. Vietnam is the real Blowjob paradise.
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[QUOTE=FredFun;2308915]In D2 I only know Thi Dinh and Tran Nao. Tran Nao are only 3 or 4 Hot Toc's.
I saw the HT's in Pham Hung street but never try one. Provide the girls CIM and ass licking? How is the massage place and do you know the name?
Nearby in ql 50 you can also find some HT's. If you go more far outside the town you can also find 3 or 4 cafe oms. To get a blowjob while you drink a coffee you can only find in Vietnam. Vietnam is the real Blowjob paradise.[/QUOTE]As a matter off act at TND at the far end that you said as well on the left (from d2) there is a caphe om. I saw 3 skinny ladies bored outside on their phones, right next to the 2 htgd places. (It was 11:00 pm tho so maybe opens late).
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[QUOTE=LiamViet;2306661]Perhaps I got there too early then? Although I'm usually asleep at 1 am LOL.
This one is in the early 100's I think. Odd number side. Corner next to an eatery and a hotel. They always seem next to hotels. Do they ever go next store for a room? Should ask next time I'm free for an hour or so.
How much should khanh l be charging then? I paid that rate too.
A friend said there is somewhere bit further on DBP too but not sure if that is where he meant or another place? Info?[/QUOTE]Unfortunately mate 77 is closed for good. It's being renovated to probably a cafe or something. The owner probably got fed up with the low rent the girls were paying and it's a good location so it was inevitable.
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[QUOTE=BinhThanh;2306473]I wonder if that is 400 for you like every foreigner now or less.[/QUOTE]Are the hot tocs along NPK priced similar to Bennys (400-450 k)? And are they all paid up front like at Bennys??
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[QUOTE=Sharka;2312723]Are the hot tocs along NPK priced similar to Bennys (400-450 k)? And are they all paid up front like at Bennys??[/QUOTE]Last visit to Bennys was about 8 yrs ago. It was not famous back then and also I think they may have moved since then.
Remember walking into Bennys and saw 3 real beauties, all late teens to early 20's. All slim and nice body and legs. Reason I remember this was because I had a damn hard time choosing which to take. So I stopped looking at the faces and stared at the tits but all 3 had similar sizes. So used another tactic (no, couldn't just flip a coin as it's only 2 sided and there were 3 of them). I started making faces and see who would smile or laugh 1st.
Took that girl and although she was not the best sucker, she did try to please. Put a lot of effort into it but maybe lacked experience as she was still young.
Finished CIM and playing with pussy. Went downstairs and paid the guy at the counter. Don't remember what the exchange rate was but it was about $8 at that time all in. Maybe locals pay less than this but couldnt be sure, i was more than happy with the price. Handed the money and nobody stopped me from leaving.
Rode off on my rental motorbike and came back next day to try girl #2. Not bad, similar to 1st girl so I was ok with that. Same price. I never asked, just paid and go.
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[QUOTE=Sharka;2312723]Are the hot tocs along NPK priced similar to Bennys (400-450 k)? And are they all paid up front like at Bennys??[/QUOTE]I just walked along NPK and everywhere quoted 400 k no tip.
They are happy for you to go in and look at the girls, no need to be embarrassed about walking out. I walked into about 5 today and then back to the first one. Not too many cuties but a few.
I paid at the end, the girl had little English, quick wash down, suck on my nipples and down to kissing and licking the ole fella and plums, top of dress down and knickers down. She didn't like me playing with her nipples but happy to play with her pussy (huh?) CIM and then a clean up.
As I say paid at the end gave a small tip and chatted using google translate for a while and then rode off into the sunset.
Last time I was here (a few years ago) I went to Benny's but you couldn't choose your girl, wasn't happy with the one given me so I walked.
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[QUOTE=Jingo10;2313727]I just walked along NPK and everywhere quoted 400 k no tip.
They are happy for you to go in and look at the girls, no need to be embarrassed about walking out. I walked into about 5 today and then back to the first one. Not too many cuties but a few.
I paid at the end, the girl had little English, quick wash down, suck on my nipples and down to kissing and licking the ole fella and plums, top of dress down and knickers down. She didn't like me playing with her nipples but happy to play with her pussy (huh?) CIM and then a clean up.
As I say paid at the end gave a small tip and chatted using google translate for a while and then rode off into the sunset.
Last time I was here (a few years ago) I went to Benny's but you couldn't choose your girl, wasn't happy with the one given me so I walked.[/QUOTE]No wonder they are happy 400 k is 2 times more than you should pay. And then you still give her a tip after that!
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[QUOTE=IAmTheBest007;2314159]No wonder they are happy 400 k is 2 times more than you should pay. And then you still give her a tip after that![/QUOTE]I am not a local so I do not expect to pay local prices, my income us 15 x + that of locals so paying a tad more is not a problem for me. 400 k is really nothing to me and I always have an acceptable figure in mind and 400 k fits fine.
Regarding the tip, I always tip for good service, it was another small amount, the price of a beer LOL.
We all pay white man tax one way or the other, especially when vacationing, just learn to accept it.
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[QUOTE=BinhThanh;2309131]As a matter off act at TND at the far end that you said as well on the left (from d2) there is a caphe om. I saw 3 skinny ladies bored outside on their phones, right next to the 2 htgd places. (It was 11:00 pm tho so maybe opens late).[/QUOTE]Wherr is this? Sounds promising.
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[QUOTE=BinhThanh;2307207]Sorry to answer in to replies, I did not notice your question. I don't think there is another one above Khanh Linh, although I think the quality of the girls is better there than at Bennys. Bennys I dropped when at the second time being there it took 15 minutes to understand that the girl doesn't want me to undress and SHE will need to do it. Wtf: the.
So DBP is kinda a no on htgd. If you want cheap action, go to ngoc diep near phan van tri near emart, or actually near NPK, but the park side of the hems, there is a place which has 3-4 okay looking girls. They have a hot toc ray tai goi dau led square stuff outside, and let me check the gmaps coordinates. I think it's cheaper than npk but I was there only once and because the girl was so cute (I still finished for myself tho) I was ok with giving 400 because it was an hour almost and she tried to massage and shit, a bit of GFE but not super cool. So I think they do 300 maybe, if you follow up, let me know..[/QUOTE]I've tried that place before. And the place a few doors up on HKN but don't recommend either. NPK know what you are getting and price. My preference anyway.
Thanks for the info. I walked around DBP yesterday morning and you are correct. Nothing else exists on either side I think.
Tried no. 77 again bit as you said, something else. On to new adventures. Might try a few new roads or go exploring later on tonight. Feedback tomorrow.
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[QUOTE=IAmTheBest007;2314159]No wonder they are happy 400 k is 2 times more than you should pay. And then you still give her a tip after that![/QUOTE]
So from your reply, the Hot Tocs at NPK are priced like most regular shops (except for Bennys). Just walk in, dont ask prices or negotiate, pick a girl, do the deed, pay the girl 250 k after and walk out without anyone complaining or stopping you from leaving??
Thanks
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[QUOTE=Sharka;2314825]So from your reply, the Hot Tocs at NPK are priced like most regular shops (except for Bennys). Just walk in, dont ask prices or negotiate, pick a girl, do the deed, pay the girl 250 k after and walk out without anyone complaining or stopping you from leaving??
Thanks[/QUOTE]Who should stop me from leaving? A girl? That's funny.
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[QUOTE=IAmTheBest007;2314946]Who should stop me from leaving? A girl? That's funny.[/QUOTE]No, just saying that if they already announced ahead of time on the street before going in that its 400 k and thats what they expect. Then upon leaving didn't pay that amount (or anything close to it) potentially they could enforce it and won't allow to leave until payment in full (the 400k)
Not saying the girl will stop you but some goons might.
But happy to hear that's the case here.
Just for reference, the above situation did actually happen to me years ago in Cambodia. I knew what the going rate was for locals and that foreigners might need to pay more (nearly double.) After the deed, paid the local rate to girl but 2 guys blocked the door and prevented me from leaving until I paid the foreigner rate (about double local rate). And yes, one guy was holding a knife by his side. Not worth arguing or getting stab or slash over a few dollars so took a few dollars out of my wallet and handed it to guy with the knife. So its a rip off as its a surcharge being a foreigner. But once they got a few extra dollars no problems letting me leave. Remember having more than $50-60 in the wallet and they couldve easily taken it all along with my wallet but only wanted the few dollars they think I still owed them.
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[QUOTE=LiamViet;2314562]Wherr is this? Sounds promising.[/QUOTE]It's on NTD. You can't get cheaper action than this, although I am not happy to mention this because inherently some porkface lurkers from here will go and not stick with the 200 k. And we will be raised to npk levels in no time. If you come from D2, just ride all the way up to almost the end of the street till the roundabout. The cafe will be let's say 150-200 m on both sides left and right, scattered around some 1-2 girl htgd places.
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[QUOTE=BinhThanh;2315984]It's on NTD. You can't get cheaper action than this, although I am not happy to mention this because inherently some porkface lurkers from here will go and not stick with the 200 k. And we will be raised to npk levels in no time. If you come from D2, just ride all the way up to almost the end of the street till the roundabout. The cafe will be let's say 150-200 m on both sides left and right, scattered around some 1-2 girl htgd places.[/QUOTE]Never saw a caphe om at NTD, but mostly I am going there at daytime.
The last time I try a chaphe om was some moth ago at ql50. I choose two girls and tell them, who does it CIM get 100 extra. The girls started a real competion. While one girl sucking cock, the other girl lick balls and ass. After some minutes changed the positions. The caphe oms are cheap and dirty, but if you want to drink a coffee with some extra service you can have some fun.
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[QUOTE=FredFun;2318432]Never saw a caphe om at NTD, but mostly I am going there at daytime.
The last time I try a chaphe om was some moth ago at ql50. I choose two girls and tell them, who does it CIM get 100 extra. The girls started a real competion. While one girl sucking cock, the other girl lick balls and ass. After some minutes changed the positions. The caphe oms are cheap and dirty, but if you want to drink a coffee with some extra service you can have some fun.[/QUOTE]Did not see it during the day either. I think the time is around 8-9 pm to start for those.
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[QUOTE=FredFun;2318432]Never saw a caphe om at NTD, but mostly I am going there at daytime.
The last time I try a chaphe om was some moth ago at ql50. I choose two girls and tell them, who does it CIM get 100 extra. The girls started a real competion. While one girl sucking cock, the other girl lick balls and ass. After some minutes changed the positions. The caphe oms are cheap and dirty, but if you want to drink a coffee with some extra service you can have some fun.[/QUOTE]To be honest, on my last trip I went looking but never found one. Maybe I just passed it not knowing what to look for. What's the best way to spot one of these Cafe (Caphe Om) places that will perform such services, instead of a regular Cafe that just serves coffee?
Also, is it point to what you want from the girl as I don't speak the Viet language at all?
Thanks.
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Hello I am with Sharka.
Can someone please help me find some of these cafe Om kind of places where you can get your caffeine shot while your pipes are services and your balls polished.
I am back again In Saigon in July and would love to try these out.
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[QUOTE=Sharka;2318680]To be honest, on my last trip I went looking but never found one. Maybe I just passed it not knowing what to look for. What's the best way to spot one of these Cafe (Caphe Om) places that will perform such services, instead of a regular Cafe that just serves coffee?
Also, is it point to what you want from the girl as I don't speak the Viet language at all?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=BinhThanh;2318622]Did not see it during the day either. I think the time is around 8-9 pm to start for those.[/QUOTE]Okay, I hope to see it next time when I am in NTD.
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[QUOTE=Sharka;2318680]To be honest, on my last trip I went looking but never found one. Maybe I just passed it not knowing what to look for. What's the best way to spot one of these Cafe (Caphe Om) places that will perform such services, instead of a regular Cafe that just serves coffee?
Also, is it point to what you want from the girl as I don't speak the Viet language at all?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Ql50 is a street. Take this road and go a little bit far outside the town. I try the caphe oms on the left side.
I know two kinds of caphe oms, hugging and blowjob caphe oms. I think in ql50 are only blowjob shops. If you are not sure ask the girls yum yum (means blowjob).
To spot out a caphe om is very easy. Most shops have a sign like coffee shop. They have no chairs outside, but you see potted plants, specially coconut plants. Inside it looks dark, only some colorful LED lights. If you see those shops you can be sure, they service also your cock. If the service is good, like CIM, ass and ball licking or swallow I give 200 . I think locals pay less.
Caphe oms are everywhere, but mostly a little outside the town. But to visit a caphe om is a real funny tourist attraction, because drinking coffee and sucking cock you can get only in Wetnam.
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[QUOTE=FredFun;2318950]Ql50 is a street. Take this road and go a little bit far outside the town. I try the caphe oms on the left side.
I know two kinds of caphe oms, hugging and blowjob caphe oms. I think in ql50 are only blowjob shops. If you are not sure ask the girls yum yum (means blowjob).
To spot out a caphe om is very easy. Most shops have a sign like coffee shop. They have no chairs outside, but you see potted plants, specially coconut plants. Inside it looks dark, only some colorful LED lights. If you see those shops you can be sure, they service also your cock. If the service is good, like CIM, ass and ball licking or swallow I give 200 . I think locals pay less.
Caphe oms are everywhere, but mostly a little outside the town. But to visit a caphe om is a real funny tourist attraction, because drinking coffee and sucking cock you can get only in Wetnam.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply.
At least now I will pay more attention when passing one of these places.
I'm only use to having my cock sucked while holding a beer in hand (mostly from Thailand), it should be fun to try it with coffee.
BTW, Which districts have more concentrations of these cafes so I could narrow my search while touring the city.
Also, are these cafes mostly on the bigger main streets or more back alley, harder to spot areas?
And are these places only open daytime or at all hours (day and night?
Thanks again.
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[QUOTE=Sharka;2319160]Thanks for the reply.
At least now I will pay more attention when passing one of these places.
I'm only use to having my cock sucked while holding a beer in hand (mostly from Thailand), it should be fun to try it with coffee.
BTW, Which districts have more concentrations of these cafes so I could narrow my search while touring the city.
Also, are these cafes mostly on the bigger main streets or more back alley, harder to spot areas?
And are these places only open daytime or at all hours (day and night?
Thanks again.[/QUOTE]Most not open during the day. Try after 9 pm. We have covered it already that it's not that hidden away, look for plant concealed entrances and dark insides.
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[QUOTE=BinhThanh;2319393]Most not open during the day. Try after 9 pm. We have covered it already that it's not that hidden away, look for plant concealed entrances and dark insides.[/QUOTE]Thanks, good to know I don't need to ride down some dark small side street in the dark after 9 pm to find them.
Based on others, seem to recommend they are mainly located more "outside " the city (assuming outside the main city center like D1 and not really outside the city in the suburbs?? Are there districts that are better hunting grounds? And for reference how far out of D1 would you have to go for better chances of finding.
Oh, before I forget something important, how's the quality of the girls working these cafes (young and cute or more the older MILF types).
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[QUOTE=Sharka;2319754]Thanks, good to know I don't need to ride down some dark small side street in the dark after 9 pm to find them.
Based on others, seem to recommend they are mainly located more "outside " the city (assuming outside the main city center like D1 and not really outside the city in the suburbs?? Are there districts that are better hunting grounds? And for reference how far out of D1 would you have to go for better chances of finding.
Oh, before I forget something important, how's the quality of the girls working these cafes (young and cute or more the older MILF types).[/QUOTE]In Thailand the blowjob bars are for tourists, in Vietnam caphe oms are for the locals. I never saw a tourist there. The caphe oms are sleazy, run down and dirty and if you don't like it better go to a massage place. Mostly I am going to D2, 7 or 8, not so far away from D1. In D8 is a Street Pham The Hien there are some Caphe oms. Some years ago they provide blowjobs, but maybe after the raid there is only hugging. I don't know, was not there for a long time. Ql 1 a is also a street with many caphe oms.
The girls are young. Girls coming form little villages in the delta and want to live in the big city. The first job they get is sucking cock in a caphe om or hot toc. It is better then work the whole day in a factory. If the service is very good, sometimes I took a girl to a nearby hotel to fuck for one or two hours.
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Okay so I tried 3 caphe om's at NTD.
It's very hard as a foreigner to get any action if you don't speak Vietnamese or have a Viet friend with you who helps. Even if you have lots of money with you, they will just serve you with a "coke" which turned out to be a sprite and they have zero alcohol at these places. So I don't really know wtf is going on because like this you can't buy lady drinks. Probably the places are kinda like "bring your own beer and get a tug job / blowjob" or something like that. One place straight out told me to go to a regular beer place just in front of their cafe. In one I got a drink and two girls were rushing down from upstairs to mingle but they realized I am not viet so went back. The other one I got zalo off of one of the girls, she looked decent maybe I'll try to freelance her.
Anyway, on the way home I dropped in the NTD first pink, closest to d2 htgd, I asked for 2 girls but as I am over serviced through my girlfriend and side projects, I had to finish off myself because they could not get me to cum. I am sure it would have been okay with 400 k as well but I had an 500 note only for the 2 girls so I did not want to start a google translate hassle. It was 1 am anyways.
The girls are a bit run -down by the way there, did not see any stunners, the way out two fat ones invited me to try their food because they were having. Dinner I guess for their schedule. ?
Next up I will try the one and only NURU massage place I found accidentally, which is super unique at HCMC, called Tokyo massage but not the one you think, this one is at the middle of Hoang Sa and costs around 1. 5 mil including tip (but not including full service most likely). If it includes full service, even better but I can't fuck in a condom so I can't care less about it.
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[QUOTE=BinhThanh;2323302]Okay so I tried 3 caphe om's at NTD.
It's very hard as a foreigner to get any action if you don't speak Vietnamese or have a Viet friend with you who helps. Even if you have lots of money with you, they will just serve you with a "coke" which turned out to be a sprite and they have zero alcohol at these places. So I don't really know wtf is going on because like this you can't buy lady drinks. Probably the places are kinda like "bring your own beer and get a tug job / blowjob" or something like that. One place straight out told me to go to a regular beer place just in front of their cafe. In one I got a drink and two girls were rushing down from upstairs to mingle but they realized I am not viet so went back. The other one I got zalo off of one of the girls, she looked decent maybe I'll try to freelance her.
Anyway, on the way home I dropped in the NTD first pink, closest to d2 htgd, I asked for 2 girls but as I am over serviced through my girlfriend and side projects, I had to finish off myself because they could not get me to cum. I am sure it would have been okay with 400 k as well but I had an 500 note only for the 2 girls so I did not want to start a google translate hassle. It was 1 am anyways..[/QUOTE]A caphe om is a blowjob coffee shop, it is not a blowjob bar like in Thailand. Nobody would drink beer in a caphe om, better drink a coffee next time. Maybe they thought you don't know what's going on and you want to drink beer. Before ordering a drink ask for yum yum (means blowjob) and they know why you are there. But I never try a caphe om at NTD, maybe there is only hugging.
In NTD are many Hot Tocs and I try a lot. It is true that the girls are not the best looking, but mostly the service is perfect. Blowjob, ass and ball licking and CIM only for 200. Please don't pay more. In other Hot toc streets the price is 250 and the girls are younger and better looking, but mostly no ass licking and CIM. To take two girls is always a lot of fun. Next time I'll take also two girls again.
Nuru massage I only know from China and after the massage there is always fucking. Please write a report about the massage in Hong Sa.
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[QUOTE=FredFun;2323653]A caphe om is a blowjob coffee shop, it is not a blowjob bar like in Thailand. Nobody would drink beer in a caphe om, better drink a coffee next time. Maybe they thought you don't know what's going on and you want to drink beer. Before ordering a drink ask for yum yum (means blowjob) and they know why you are there. But I never try a caphe om at NTD, maybe there is only hugging.
In NTD are many Hot Tocs and I try a lot. It is true that the girls are not the best looking, but mostly the service is perfect. Blowjob, ass and ball licking and CIM only for 200. Please don't pay more. In other Hot toc streets the price is 250 and the girls are younger and better looking, but mostly no ass licking and CIM. To take two girls is always a lot of fun. Next time I'll take also two girls again.
Nuru massage I only know from China and after the massage there is always fucking. Please write a report about the massage in Hong Sa.[/QUOTE]I don't like rimming. Ball licking actually makes me go soft in 5 seconds so we are different.
However, with some coaching htgd is still the best place to use to get a "good" oily handjob. Some D1 massage places have a 250 k ticket then around 3-500 k (which starts from 800 k LOL before negotiation!) for a simple handjob with clothes on do it well because they are experienced and NTD hot tocs are not the best when it comes to handling a cock but as I said, with a bit of coaching (and if you bring your own baby oil, because they tend not to have any lubrication LOL) they are okay and I still pay less for 2 girls than for an 1 girl session at the massage places. I really don't like blowjobs either so I think they are happy not to have to suck a cock for the 200 k but I am a harder case to get off so they usually work for the money. Although 30% the times I just jerk off myself why they fake moan and kiss my nipples and such.
I'd love to find a place which does decent 60-90 min 4 hands massage and only handjob without any other extras (I don't even need them to be naked) for sub 1 m but it's a dream.
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[QUOTE=BinhThanh;2323302]Okay so I tried 3 caphe om's at NTD.
It's very hard as a foreigner to get any action if you don't speak Vietnamese or have a Viet friend with you who helps. Even if you have lots of money with you, they will just serve you with a "coke" which turned out to be a sprite and they have zero alcohol at these places. So I don't really know wtf is going on because like this you can't buy lady drinks. Probably the places are kinda like "bring your own beer and get a tug job / blowjob" or something like that. One place straight out told me to go to a regular beer place just in front of their cafe. In one I got a drink and two girls were rushing down from upstairs to mingle but they realized I am not viet so went back. The other one I got zalo off of one of the girls, she looked decent maybe I'll try to freelance her.
Anyway, on the way home I dropped in the NTD first pink, closest to d2 htgd, I asked for 2 girls but as I am over serviced through my girlfriend and side projects, I had to finish off myself because they could not get me to cum. I am sure it would have been okay with 400 k as well but I had an 500 note only for the 2 girls so I did not want to start a google translate hassle. It was 1 am anyways..[/QUOTE]Yep as the other reply says please write report on this nuru massage, is sounds amazing.
I've tried 2 htdg on NTD and the experience wasn't fantastic but for 200 k I can't complain. I was in the one you said and it was actually the worst I've ever had haha.
There is so much talk about caphe om but no real reports. Are they exclusively for Vietnamese or can a foreigner get lucky there?
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[QUOTE=CheapChips;2323962]Yep as the other reply says please write report on this nuru massage, is sounds amazing.
I've tried 2 htdg on NTD and the experience wasn't fantastic but for 200 k I can't complain. I was in the one you said and it was actually the worst I've ever had haha.
There is so much talk about caphe om but no real reports. Are they exclusively for Vietnamese or can a foreigner get lucky there?[/QUOTE]Of course you can try a caphe om as foreigner, if you like coffee and blowjobs.
I wrote everything you must know before. As a newbie you can go to ql50. Drive south and after and Van Linh on the left side you will see the caphe oms.
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[QUOTE=BinhThanh;2323946]I don't like rimming. Ball licking actually makes me go soft in 5 seconds so we are different.
However, with some coaching htgd is still the best place to use to get a "good" oily handjob. Some D1 massage places have a 250 k ticket then around 3-500 k (which starts from 800 k LOL before negotiation!) for a simple handjob with clothes on do it well because they are experienced and NTD hot tocs are not the best when it comes to handling a cock but as I said, with a bit of coaching (and if you bring your own baby oil, because they tend not to have any lubrication LOL) they are okay and I still pay less for 2 girls than for an 1 girl session at the massage places. I really don't like blowjobs either so I think they are happy not to have to suck a cock for the 200 k but I am a harder case to get off so they usually work for the money. Although 30% the times I just jerk off myself why they fake moan and kiss my nipples and such.
I'd love to find a place which does decent 60-90 min 4 hands massage and only handjob without any other extras (I don't even need them to be naked) for sub 1 m but it's a dream.[/QUOTE]Okay, I understand you are a handjob guy. Maybe you can try a massage outside D1. Mostly Ticket 200 and 200 tip for one hour massage and a oily handjob.
Cause I like blowjobs, I visit sometimes Boss Massage in D3. Ticket 250 and tip 250 for one hour massage and a nice blowjob / handjob combo.
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[QUOTE=FredFun;2324982]Okay, I understand you are a handjob guy. Maybe you can try a massage outside D1. Mostly Ticket 200 and 200 tip for one hour massage and a oily handjob.
Cause I like blowjobs, I visit sometimes Boss Massage in D3. Ticket 250 and tip 250 for one hour massage and a nice blowjob / handjob combo.[/QUOTE]How far out and could you maybe just give a direction of an area? I have been to countless spa's at go vap and other places but nothing had remotely close in prices.
Cheers Fred!
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[QUOTE=BinhThanh;2325259]How far out and could you maybe just give a direction of an area? I have been to countless spa's at go vap and other places but nothing had remotely close in prices.
Cheers Fred![/QUOTE]Okay, I visit sometimes a massage in D7. If you drive Huynh Tan Phat south turn right in and Thi Thap and take the second massage on the right side. First massage is at the corner, but 50 meters further you will see the second massage sign. Try this massage. 200 Ticket and 200 tip for one hour massage and handjob.
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Hot Toc in D7.
Last night I try a HT at Tran Xuan Soan and it was nice. 6 good looking teens working there. The set up is like the NTT Hot Tocs in the good old days. Fixed price 250, good looking tens, 100 % naked, good blowjob with ball licking and CIM. I don't know if it is standart but my girl swallow the whole load.
This Hot Toc I can highly recommend.
I don't know why people go to the overpriced tourist Hot Tocs benny or NPK.
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[QUOTE=FredFun;2325561]Last night I try a HT at Tran Xuan Soan and it was nice. 6 good looking teens working there. The set up is like the NTT Hot Tocs in the good old days. Fixed price 250, good looking tens, 100 % naked, good blowjob with ball licking and CIM. I don't know if it is standart but my girl swallow the whole load.
This Hot Toc I can highly recommend.[/QUOTE]Thanks. What's its name and / or address then?
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[QUOTE=MeoDen;2325781]Thanks. What's its name and / or address then?[/QUOTE]I don't know the name but it is easy to find.
If you coming form Lam Van Ben turn left and 100 m further you will see it.
Have a nice blowjob and pay only 250.
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[QUOTE=FredFun;2326503]I don't know the name but it is easy to find.
If you coming form Lam Van Ben turn left and 100 m further you will see it.
Have a nice blowjob and pay only 250.[/QUOTE]OK thanks.
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District 6.
Anyone know of any places around district 6?
I heard there might be something way down by the Mc Donald's on Kinh Duong Vuong.
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[QUOTE=CheapChips;2323962]Yep as the other reply says please write report on this nuru massage, is sounds amazing.
I've tried 2 htdg on NTD and the experience wasn't fantastic but for 200 k I can't complain. I was in the one you said and it was actually the worst I've ever had haha.
There is so much talk about caphe om but no real reports. Are they exclusively for Vietnamese or can a foreigner get lucky there?[/QUOTE]Which district is NTD in?
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Correct me if I'm wrong.
[QUOTE=FredFun;2325561]Last night I try a HT at Tran Xuan Soan and it was nice. 6 good looking teens working there. The set up is like the NTT Hot Tocs in the good old days. Fixed price 250, good looking tens, 100 % naked, good blowjob with ball licking and CIM. I don't know if it is standart but my girl swallow the whole load.
This Hot Toc I can highly recommend.
I don't know why people go to the overpriced tourist Hot Tocs benny or NPK.[/QUOTE]Hot Tocs are beauty / Hair salons with extras right?
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[QUOTE=Eagle2972;2327673]Anyone know of any places around district 6?
I heard there might be something way down by the Mc Donald's on Kinh Duong Vuong.[/QUOTE]Blowjob Hot Tocs are everywhere. One year ago I try a Hot Toc in D6 at Duong So 7. Blowjob was okay, but nothing special.
Try it a write a report. I am always interested in good service.
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[QUOTE=BlueBaron;2327830]Which district is NTD in?[/QUOTE]NTD is in District 2.
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[QUOTE=Penetrador;2328145]Hot Tocs are beauty / Hair salons with extras right?[/QUOTE]Yes, but look for Hot Toc Goi Dau with frosted glass door. Goi Dau means hairwash. If you can not look into the Hot Toc, you can be sure the girls never cut hair.
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Looked for 10+ pages, I guess this thread is about HCM only.
I'm visiting Hanoi next week, does anyone know where I can find some BJ coffee shops? Thanks a lot.
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Hello Peepz!
I just posted the Nuru experience in the massage parlor topic but on the way there I noticed our Hoang Sa places reopened / moved a bit.
So From Hoang Sa 820 definitely be on the lookout but everybody will come from the higher end of the street (best is if you ride to the start of Hoang sa at the west and work your way down to the 900+ 800+ numbers. I saw at least 4-5 shops with the usual frosted glass, some with named hot toc signage as well. The girls inside were the usual quality but the locations changed a bit so you can definitely find 3-4 shops at least in-between 800 and 1000. It's a 4 minute ride so just watch carefully. I don't like the places where lots of middle aged dudes sit outside, so even if the girls are cute, I won't stop there. (They should do something about it but I know mostly it's for the bikes to be kept safe.).
Enjoy, report back while I am sure they are the usual 200-300 k places. (Although most of them will try the 400 magic LOL).
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[QUOTE=BinhThanh;2331012]Hello Peepz!
I just posted the Nuru experience in the massage parlor topic but on the way there I noticed our Hoang Sa places reopened / moved a bit.
So From Hoang Sa 820 definitely be on the lookout but everybody will come from the higher end of the street (best is if you ride to the start of Hoang sa at the west and work your way down to the 900+ 800+ numbers. I saw at least 4-5 shops with the usual frosted glass, some with named hot toc signage as well. The girls inside were the usual quality but the locations changed a bit so you can definitely find 3-4 shops at least in-between 800 and 1000. It's a 4 minute ride so just watch carefully. I don't like the places where lots of middle aged dudes sit outside, so even if the girls are cute, I won't stop there. (They should do something about it but I know mostly it's for the bikes to be kept safe.).
Enjoy, report back while I am sure they are the usual 200-300 k places. (Although most of them will try the 400 magic LOL).[/QUOTE]Thanks for the nuru massage report, maybe to expensive for the service.
Good to know that some Hoang Sa Hot Toc's reopened.
Before the raid one of my favorite HTGD named Nam Phong was at Hoang Sa.
In this Hot Toc the girl was 100% naked and give you for half an hour a massage only with her tongue. She lick really every part of your body, while you play with tits, ass and pussy.
Then the massage was finisched with a very long blowjob with CIM.
Can't remember exactly, but the price was 400 or 500.
I really miss this Hot Toc.
Maybe anybody know a Hot Toc with this kind of service?
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[QUOTE=FredFun;2332839]Thanks for the nuru massage report, maybe to expensive for the service.
Good to know that some Hoang Sa Hot Toc's reopened.
Before the raid one of my favorite HTGD named Nam Phong was at Hoang Sa.
In this Hot Toc the girl was 100% naked and give you for half an hour a massage only with her tongue. She lick really every part of your body, while you play with tits, ass and pussy.
Then the massage was finisched with a very long blowjob with CIM.
Can't remember exactly, but the price was 400 or 500.
I really miss this Hot Toc.
Maybe anybody know a Hot Toc with this kind of service?[/QUOTE]Honestly, if you ask for it, I think for that price any shop at NTD would do it for you and you can enjoy your rimming as well.
Do you ever do bars? I am so bored sometimes, although I don't drink at all, I play with the idea to go to some d1 bar and see what's what. The bar topic here is very outdated and the info inside is not too good either. I find it odd a bit to actually just "pay" for company, especially if they don't speak good English but I guess at D1 they are ok.
I have tough time to manage the side projects beside my GF so not really needed but you know, just in case at midnight I hop on my motorbike and want to have some fun.
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[QUOTE=FredFun;2332839]Thanks for the nuru massage report, maybe to expensive for the service.
Good to know that some Hoang Sa Hot Toc's reopened.
Before the raid one of my favorite HTGD named Nam Phong was at Hoang Sa.
In this Hot Toc the girl was 100% naked and give you for half an hour a massage only with her tongue. She lick really every part of your body, while you play with tits, ass and pussy.
Then the massage was finisched with a very long blowjob with CIM.
Can't remember exactly, but the price was 400 or 500.
I really miss this Hot Toc.
Maybe anybody know a Hot Toc with this kind of service?[/QUOTE]Where was this on Hoang Sa? Around 55, where not too long ago, 1-2 months ago one closed? There was some guy sad about that one getting closed but not sure if it wa syou or not. Yes, the prices there were 500 k firmly on one girl and 400 k on the other one but I always got the shittier one LOL. I don't think that is the place, your probably was somewhere else and much earlier in time.
Right?
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[QUOTE=BinhThanh;2333109]Where was this on Hoang Sa? Around 55, where not too long ago, 1-2 months ago one closed? There was some guy sad about that one getting closed but not sure if it wa syou or not. Yes, the prices there were 500 k firmly on one girl and 400 k on the other one but I always got the shittier one LOL. I don't think that is the place, your probably was somewhere else and much earlier in time.
Right?[/QUOTE]No, it was some years ago, before the big raid. Can't remember the number, but the Hot Toc Signs were in yellow and green color. The facilities were much better than the NTD Hot Tocs and the standard set up was half an hour tongue massage and then the CIM blowjob. In the sleazy NTD Hot Toc's it is okay when I let myself suck off quickly.
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[QUOTE=BinhThanh;2333107]Honestly, if you ask for it, I think for that price any shop at NTD would do it for you and you can enjoy your rimming as well.
Do you ever do bars? I am so bored sometimes, although I don't drink at all, I play with the idea to go to some d1 bar and see what's what. The bar topic here is very outdated and the info inside is not too good either. I find it odd a bit to actually just "pay" for company, especially if they don't speak good English but I guess at D1 they are ok.
I have tough time to manage the side projects beside my GF so not really needed but you know, just in case at midnight I hop on my motorbike and want to have some fun.[/QUOTE]No, I never go to girlie or billiard bars, it more for the tourists.
If you speak a little bit Vietnamese you can try a hugging cafe om, if you want some company.
I like more the blowjob Cafe oms, but at midnight its a little to late to have some fun.
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[QUOTE=FredFun;2334463]No, I never go to girlie or billiard bars, it more for the tourists.
If you speak a little bit Vietnamese you can try a hugging cafe om, if you want some company.
I like more the blowjob Cafe oms, but at midnight its a little to late to have some fun.[/QUOTE]Sometimes I see some massage places that seem to be naughty type, and the sign outside might say 200.000 VND. These are places that are for locals, and they are in locations where it's way far from city centre, there are naughty hot tocs very close nearby. So if we get that and it's 200, you think that already includes the BJ, or they want tip for that. And if so, how much.
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[QUOTE=BlueBaron;2335137]Sometimes I see some massage places that seem to be naughty type, and the sign outside might say 200.000 VND. These are places that are for locals, and they are in locations where it's way far from city centre, there are naughty hot tocs very close nearby. So if we get that and it's 200, you think that already includes the BJ, or they want tip for that. And if so, how much.[/QUOTE]No. If you see VIP 80 k-150 K that basically mean that you get a private room (plus around 2-300 k for a blowjob or handjob). So that's basically a room for an hour and a girl, who you usually tip the amount I stated before. If you are very far out, like I was at Ben Tre a couple of days ago, 100 k ticket like in HCMC and I gave 200 k for the girl, I think she expected only 100 (it was a handjob only place according to her). So I think there you can do it via 100-100 with steam bath sauna and shower. But that's very "countrysideish" and you won't travel so much.
Generally, whenever you see "Massage" or XOA BOP XONG HOI in any order, those are handjob / blowjob massage joints.
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[QUOTE=BinhThanh;2335275]No. If you see VIP 80 k-150 K that basically mean that you get a private room (plus around 2-300 k for a blowjob or handjob). So that's basically a room for an hour and a girl, who you usually tip the amount I stated before. If you are very far out, like I was at Ben Tre a couple of days ago, 100 k ticket like in HCMC and I gave 200 k for the girl, I think she expected only 100 (it was a handjob only place according to her). So I think there you can do it via 100-100 with steam bath sauna and shower. But that's very "countrysideish" and you won't travel so much.
Generally, whenever you see "Massage" or XOA BOP XONG HOI in any order, those are handjob / blowjob massage joints.[/QUOTE]This type of advice will only lead to price appreciation, I'm guessing you guy want to go further away from D1 due to price appreciation and yet you are then again over tipping.
The general rule if for a HJ the tip matches the ticket trip rounding up slightly so for example if the ticket = 80, tip = 100, if ticket is 150 then tip is 150 k.
For a BJ you would generally add another 100 k so on avg a BJ would be 200-300 k. To say you would tip 2-300 k just for a HJ will allow others to tip more again for BJ.
I have stated this a few times already but the message never gets out, I know places where I can get a VIP room for 80 k, then a BJ and I tip 150 k, or places where a girl get fully naked gives me a b2 b massage with a BJ and it only costs me 100+400 K, but there is no way I'm be sharing those places when guys here can't even get pricing right after 15+ yrs of forum posts.
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[QUOTE=MutantChicken;2335362]This type of advice will only lead to price appreciation, I'm guessing you guy want to go further away from D1 due to price appreciation and yet you are then again over tipping.
The general rule if for a HJ the tip matches the ticket trip rounding up slightly so for example if the ticket = 80, tip = 100, if ticket is 150 then tip is 150 k.
For a BJ you would generally add another 100 k so on avg a BJ would be 200-300 k. To say you would tip 2-300 k just for a HJ will allow others to tip more again for BJ.
I have stated this a few times already but the message never gets out, I know places where I can get a VIP room for 80 k, then a BJ and I tip 150 k, or places where a girl get fully naked gives me a b2 b massage with a BJ and it only costs me 100+400 K, but there is no way I'm be sharing those places when guys here can't even get pricing right after 15+ yrs of forum posts.[/QUOTE]Every time when I tried such a cheap massage place the massage was only 10 minutes and shitty. The blowjob or handjob was also bad. My tip was therefore very little. Is the bad service at such cheap places standard or did I have no luck?
If I visit a massage place I want a good massage, not only a blowjob and if I want a blowjob I can going to a Hot Toc.
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[QUOTE=FredFun;2336872]Every time when I tried such a cheap massage place the massage was only 10 minutes and shitty. The blowjob or handjob was also bad. My tip was therefore very little. Is the bad service at such cheap places standard or did I have no luck?
If I visit a massage place I want a good massage, not only a blowjob and if I want a blowjob I can going to a Hot Toc.[/QUOTE]Generally all or most massages that give BJ is shitty massage, the ones that give HJ can be good, so yes all depends on luck or knowledge, the girls in massage that give BJ are generally younger and prettier than those in hottocs which is the only plus. Last few days I went to cafe om where you can get a BJ and a water for 140-160 k, one gal even got fully naked.
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[QUOTE=MutantChicken;2337138]Generally all or most massages that give BJ is shitty massage, the ones that give HJ can be good, so yes all depends on luck or knowledge, the girls in massage that give BJ are generally younger and prettier than those in hottocs which is the only plus. Last few days I went to cafe om where you can get a BJ and a water for 140-160 k, one gal even got fully naked.[/QUOTE]Location please.
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Location:
353 Trầand Xuâand Soạand, Tâand Kiểng, Quậand 7, Hồ Chí Minh.
Price: 350 k VND BBBJ CIM.
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I went to this after reading a report of a 200 k BBBJ. The provider is maybe in her early 30's and still quite pretty IMO. There were two working when I visited at around 7 pm. It's very small. Just a back room with three massage tables side by side separated by opaque mesh. No air conditioning, just a fan. No shower. No massage.
There's no reception or anything. The providers do everything themselves. She locked the door when I entered and she puts a chain around the front wheel of her motorbike, so the area must not be too secure.
She wanted 350 k for CIM, but I thought it was 200 k. I offered 300 k but she said only 350 k.
I said OK and the BJ was nice and the CIM was great. It's hard to find normal girls who will do CIM. No massage after or before but she allowed full roaming around her body.
I gave her 500 k and she could only find a single 200 k for change, so she handed me 200 k and I gave her back 50 k.
The fact that she couldn't find 50 k makes me think that I got the foreigner price and everyone else gets a BBBJ CIM for 200 k.
What do you think?
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When you say "NTD" do you mean Nguyen Tih Dinh?
As in, this street right here. They are all on the main strip or the side streets? What times do they open and close?
68-228 Nguyễn Thị Đ7inh, seeát LáI, Quận 2, Hồ Chí Minh.
[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/Y6xAfVBfkWHCnSgVA[/URL]
I don't know what to look for. How do you know what is a BJ Hoc Toc or a Ca Phe Om?
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Location:
10°46'28.4"and 106°46'08.3"E.
784 Nguyễn Thị Đ7883;nh, Quận 2, Hồ Chí Minh.
[URL]https://goo.gl/maps/5DLLvBH4LFsbXAEv9[/URL]
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There are two hot tocs side by side. I went to the one on the left, right beside the side street, at around 6 pm.
Two providers were working there. Both in their 30's. I gestured 200 k for a BJ and they said OK.
One of them took me to the back and proceeded with a handjob and BBBJ but it was 90% a handjob. She would blow me but only for maybe 3 seconds and then back to the handjob. I wanted CIM and she said OK for another 100 k, but she continued with the handjob. When I came it wasn't in her mouth. After I cleaned up she gestured for the 100 k, saying that it was for CIM, which obviously didn't happen. I didn't want to argue or explain, so I just paid the money and left. 300 k in total.
I don't recommend this shop at all. It has Hot Goi Mai written on its doors in red letters.
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[QUOTE=IAmTrout;2338872]When you say "NTD" do you mean Nguyen Tih Dinh?
As in, this street right here. They are all on the main strip or the side streets? What times do they open and close?
68-228 Nguyễn Thị Đ7inh, seet LI, Quận 2, Hồ Ch Minh.
[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/Y6xAfVBfkWHCnSgVA[/URL]
I don't know what to look for. How do you know what is a BJ Hoc Toc or a Ca Phe Om?[/QUOTE]Yeah, that's right. A Hot Toc looks like a barber shop and a caphe om looks like a coffee shop, with potted plants in the front.
The Hot Toc's are open the whole day and the blowjob coffee shops open later.
Pay only 200 for a blowjob with CIM.
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[QUOTE=IAmTrout;2338835]Location:
353 Trầand Xuand Soạand, Tand Kiểng, Quậand 7, Hồ Ch Minh.
Price: 350 k VND BBBJ CIM.
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I went to this after reading a report of a 200 k BBBJ. The provider is maybe in her early 30's and still quite pretty IMO. There were two working when I visited at around 7 pm. It's very small. Just a back room with three massage tables side by side separated by opaque mesh. No air conditioning, just a fan. No shower. No massage.
There's no reception or anything. The providers do everything themselves. She locked the door when I entered and she puts a chain around the front wheel of her motorbike, so the area must not be too secure.
Never ask for the price. You pay the tourist price. After you cim give the girl 250.
She wanted 350 k for CIM, but I thought it was 200 k. I offered 300 k but she said only 350 k.[/QUOTE]Never ask for the price. You pay the tourist price. After you CIM give the girl 250. In this area is the standard price 250.
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[QUOTE=IAmTrout;2339277]Location:
1046'28.4"and 10646'08.3"E.
784 Nguyễn Thị Đ7883;nh, Quận 2, Hồ Ch Minh.
[URL]https://goo.gl/maps/5DLLvBH4LFsbXAEv9[/URL]
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There are two hot tocs side by side. I went to the one on the left, right beside the side street, at around 6 pm.
Two providers were working there. Both in their 30's. I gestured 200 k for a BJ and they said OK..[/QUOTE]Please don't pay more than 200 at any Hot Toc in NTD for a blowjob with CIM.
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[QUOTE=FredFun;2339381]Please don't pay more than 200 at any Hot Toc in NTD for a blowjob with CIM.[/QUOTE]OK, so what I'm getting is that you're not supposed to even discuss price at all. Don't even mention it.
But that's assuming that they will automatically start doing BBBJ. In the case of my NTD experience she just did mostly a HJ.
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[QUOTE=MutantChicken;2339641]And this why anyone who knows anything knows better to openly share, I'm certain your reports stated you paid only 250 k, and yet we have someone who is inapt and incompetent to use this information and only pay 250 k but then proceeds to pay a extra 50%, well done fishman, you have successfully added to the inflation, if you are going to pay 350 k might as stay in the 400 k d1 shops.[/QUOTE]Yes, really incompetent. When the price is 200 for good service I don't know why anybody pay 300 for a HJ.
Once again I explain how to act if you visit a Hot Toc in NTD.
If you can't do it better go to the D1 places.
Occur self-consciously and show the girl that you know the service and the price.
If the girl is too old or not good looking go to an other Hot Toc. In this streets are many.
Make sure that the girl is 100 % naked.
Squeeze the tits, play with pussy and ass.
Make sure that the girl lick your balls and asshole.
Take your time, it is not necessary to cum in 10 minutes.
Take a break, play again with tits and pussy and stick a finger in pussy and ass.
Make sure that you CIM.
Then give the girl the 200 and you can leave.
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Benny Hair Salon
I went to Benny Hair Salon in Ho Chi Minh.
They told me it was 450,000 VND upfront when I went in the door.
After I paid I pulled down my pants but the lady told me to leave my pants on at the ankles. She had me lay on the bed with my shirt on.
She didn't let me touch her except for the outer bra, but the blow job was pretty good.
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[QUOTE=DoppelH;2343975]I went to Benny Hair Salon in Ho Chi Minh.
They told me it was 450,000 VND upfront when I went in the door.
After I paid I pulled down my pants but the lady told me to leave my pants on at the ankles. She had me lay on the bed with my shirt on.
She didn't let me touch her except for the outer bra, but the blow job was pretty good.[/QUOTE]I hope she was pretty because for that price you could have fucked this one.
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I got to set a few things straight here. Whenever we hear about these "200 K BJs and no more" and "you could have fucked this one for 450 K" you need to take this with a pinch of salt.
FredFun keeps saying 200,200, 200, but it sounds to me like he had his hart broken by his Hot Toc girlfriend and now wants to get even.
Is a 200 K BJ possible? Yes it is, but as a person mongering in the central districts or someone who is not 100% familiar with local practices / places, this is simply unlikely to result in having a good time in an easily found centrally located BJ shop.
MutantChicken keeps wowing us with the pretty looking girls for 400 K, but the fact is that the come from a variety of websites like kynu where the experience more often than not is extremely average.
Again, is it possible? Yes it is, but it is a needle in haystack. It is more likely that she walks in, looks nothing like her pictures, looks at you in disgust, asks for an extra 400 K because "you foreigner" (like that comes as a surprise after my English messages? Gets annoyed because you don't cum within 3 minutes, and has her clothes back on so fast, you have not even stopped dripping yet.
Now, I am not advocating that we all just simply pay what is being requested. As we all know prices would become absurd pretty quickly. I am just saying that guys with good local know-how talking about their anecdotal best experience does nothing apart from giving the wrong impression about what is available.
Again, I am not saying it is impossible. I did similar girls that FredFun and MC are describing at dirt cheap prices. But for anyone coming to Vietnam for a few weeks, or not being a regular monger, don't expect your experience to be in-line with what they describe. You are going to be disappointed.
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[QUOTE=JD468;2344618]I got to set a few things straight here. Whenever we hear about these "200 K BJs and no more" and "you could have fucked this one for 450 K" you need to take this with a pinch of salt.
FredFun keeps saying 200,200, 200, but it sounds to me like he had his hart broken by his Hot Toc girlfriend and now wants to get even.
Is a 200 K BJ possible? Yes it is, but as a person mongering in the central districts or someone who is not 100% familiar with local practices / places, this is simply unlikely to result in having a good time in an easily found centrally located BJ shop.
MutantChicken keeps wowing us with the pretty looking girls for 400 K, but the fact is that the come from a variety of websites like kynu where the experience more often than not is extremely average.
Again, is it possible? Yes it is, but it is a needle in haystack. It is more likely that she walks in, looks nothing like her pictures, looks at you in disgust, asks for an extra 400 K because "you foreigner" (like that comes as a surprise after my English messages? Gets annoyed because you don't cum within 3 minutes, and has her clothes back on so fast, you have not even stopped dripping yet.[/QUOTE]Yeah but isn't that just common sense and is a given EG some guy in Singapore / LA / NY talking about the best chilli grab / burrito / pizza with their local knowledge of best hole in the wall eatery with dirt cheap prices and I'm a tourist and I walk in the first place I see and my meal is nothing like what was described and costs 5 x as much.
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[QUOTE=JD468;2344618]I got to set a few things straight here. Whenever we hear about these "200 K BJs and no more" and "you could have fucked this one for 450 K" you need to take this with a pinch of salt. ...... Again, I am not saying it is impossible. I did similar girls that FredFun and MC are describing at dirt cheap prices. But for anyone coming to Vietnam for a few weeks, or not being a regular monger, don't expect your experience to be in-line with what they describe. You are going to be disappointed.[/QUOTE]Well said.
To make a crude comparison, say Bangkok rates 7/10 as a destination for punters.
I would rate Saigon 10/10. Then,
Subtract 1 if you are unusually tall or heavy, or make that 2 if you are obese.
Subtract 2 unless you speak at least modest Vietnamese.
Subtract 2 if you are not Vietnamese, 3 if you are Caucasian.
Then consider how the typical Bangkok gogo or beer bar patron will fare here.
I will say this in support of those who caution against the rampant overpaying by newbies: for the most part it will not improve their experience, in fact it often has the opposite effect, with overpaying customers being seen as marks to be clipped, not as customers to be satisfied.
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Hue
Are there Hot Tocs or Blow 'and Go in Hue (or Hoi An)? No reports here about it.
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Hoc Tocs vs Nail Salons
I've recently been exploring the hoc tocs around the Nang. Lots of the obvious places on the outside borders of the city fucking suck. These are the places that have a sign out front saying hot toc nam with a picture of a sexy girl on the sign. That's how you tell them apart from the legit places since the real ones say hot toc name but have pictures of men on the signs. You go in and you can shag for 100 k but the chicks are in the 2/10 and 3/10 range. Your lucky if you find a 5. Most of these girls never service foreigners so they're eager to try it. Some will charge you 200 k thinking they're clever for getting double the price, but for 100 k who cares. But I would gladly pay more for a decent looking girl.
I see the nail salons have much prettier girls inside but never worked up the courage to go in and ask if they have extras. I'm wondering if anyone here has experience with nail salons. Most of the girls I meet on online apps say they work in nail salons and are very happy to meet for some extra cash but I've never gone into one looking. Any advice appreciated.
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[QUOTE=IAmTrout;2339277]Location:
1046'28.4"and 10646'08.3"E.
784 Nguyễn Thị Đ7883;nh, Quận 2, Hồ Ch Minh.
[URL]https://goo.gl/maps/5DLLvBH4LFsbXAEv9[/URL]
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There are two hot tocs side by side. I went to the one on the left, right beside the side street, at around 6 pm.
Two providers were working there. Both in their 30's. I gestured 200 k for a BJ and they said OK.
One of them took me to the back and proceeded with a handjob and BBBJ but it was 90% a handjob. She would blow me but only for maybe 3 seconds and then back to the handjob..[/QUOTE]I also come to this shop, service is not good, I also don't recommend this ship.
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[QUOTE=FredFun;2334463]No, I never go to girlie or billiard bars, it more for the tourists.
If you speak a little bit Vietnamese you can try a hugging cafe om, if you want some company.
I like more the blowjob Cafe oms, but at midnight its a little to late to have some fun.[/QUOTE]Fred where are these hugging café oms. No one has ever found one in the past 5 years.
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[QUOTE=JD468;2344618]I got to set a few things straight here. Whenever we hear about these "200 K BJs and no more" and "you could have fucked this one for 450 K" you need to take this with a pinch of salt.
FredFun keeps saying 200,200, 200, but it sounds to me like he had his hart broken by his Hot Toc girlfriend and now wants to get even.
Is a 200 K BJ possible? Yes it is, but as a person mongering in the central districts or someone who is not 100% familiar with local practices / places, this is simply unlikely to result in having a good time in an easily found centrally located BJ shop.
MutantChicken keeps wowing us with the pretty looking girls for 400 K, but the fact is that the come from a variety of websites like kynu where the experience more often than not is extremely average.
Again, is it possible? Yes it is, but it is a needle in haystack. It is more likely that she walks in, looks nothing like her pictures, looks at you in disgust, asks for an extra 400 K because "you foreigner" (like that comes as a surprise after my English messages? Gets annoyed because you don't cum within 3 minutes, and has her clothes back on so fast, you have not even stopped dripping yet..[/QUOTE]Is a 200 K BJ possible? Yes it is very easy. Grab a motorbike to Huỳnh Tấand Phát in D7 and visit a Hot Toc Goi Dau after the intersection and. Thi Thap.
Last week I visited three times the second Hot Toc on the left side. Pay 200 at the counter, choose a girl and the action can start. The cabins have showers and the girls are good looking and 100 % naked. Service is good, but no ass licking and CIM.
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[QUOTE=Sidtip;2352526]Fred where are these hugging caf oms. No one has ever found one in the past 5 years.[/QUOTE]As I wrote before: Pham the hien in D8.
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[QUOTE=FredFun;2352977]As I wrote before: Pham the hien in D8.[/QUOTE]Thanks but it that just the sex / massage shops or is it the so-called café om that you can sit with the girl and have a drink while she fiddles with your bits and chats with others around.
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[QUOTE=FredFun;2352977]As I wrote before: Pham the hien in D8.[/QUOTE]I am US Vietnamese, and I visit HCM often. I have been to Café om but no sex was allowed in all of the ones I have been to. Was it different with yours?
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[QUOTE=Sidtip;2354053]Thanks but it that just the sex / massage shops or is it the so-called caf om that you can sit with the girl and have a drink while she fiddles with your bits and chats with others around.[/QUOTE]The cafe oms at Pham The Hien is only hugging.
If you like blowjobs like me you can try a cafe om at ql50.
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[QUOTE=FredFun;2325561]Last night I try a HT at Tran Xuan Soan and it was nice. 6 good looking teens working there. The set up is like the NTT Hot Tocs in the good old days. Fixed price 250, good looking tens, 100 % naked, good blowjob with ball licking and CIM. I don't know if it is standart but my girl swallow the whole load.
This Hot Toc I can highly recommend.
I don't know why people go to the overpriced tourist Hot Tocs benny or NPK.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=FredFun;2358824]The cafe oms at Pham The Hien is only hugging.
If you like blowjobs like me you can try a cafe om at ql50.[/QUOTE]I just rode like 30 mins slowly across a huge stretch of ql50 but I didn't find anything. Its like 2 pm now. Am I here at the wrong time? I'm looking for caphe oms that does BJ. Got to try BJ with coffee. Anyone in Saigon that wants to go around looking for value for money fun please hmu. Looking for buddies to explore around. I can speak basic Vietnamese; enough to get around.
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Wish I could join you punters! Will check out some locations shared here and report back!
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MagicKid. Lets hang out
[QUOTE=MagicKid;2364384]I just rode like 30 mins slowly across a huge stretch of ql50 but I didn't find anything. Its like 2 pm now. Am I here at the wrong time? I'm looking for caphe oms that does BJ. Got to try BJ with coffee. Anyone in Saigon that wants to go around looking for value for money fun please hmu. Looking for buddies to explore around. I can speak basic Vietnamese; enough to get around.[/QUOTE]Hey MagicKid,
I'm interested in making some new friends in this world.
Matthew.
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Thanks for the information
[QUOTE=FredFun;2352975]Is a 200 K BJ possible? Yes it is very easy. Grab a motorbike to Huỳnh Tấand Pht in D7 and visit a Hot Toc Goi Dau after the intersection and. Thi Thap.
Last week I visited three times the second Hot Toc on the left side. Pay 200 at the counter, choose a girl and the action can start. The cabins have showers and the girls are good looking and 100 % naked. Service is good, but no ass licking and CIM.[/QUOTE]Hi FredFun,
Thanks for the information. I went to this area last night and I had a hard time finding any Hot Toc's. I'm also new to the city and probably got lost. Would you be willing to give a me a street number that's in the area. Or even better want to get a beer?
Matthew.
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[QUOTE]The cafe oms at Pham The Hien is only hugging.
If you like blowjobs like me you can try a cafe om at ql50.[/QUOTE]What is the name of the cafe om that you mentioned at ql50? It's hard for me to find a cafe om that does more than HJ.
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[QUOTE=FredFun;2358824]The cafe oms at Pham The Hien is only hugging.
If you like blowjobs like me you can try a cafe om at ql50.[/QUOTE]Still seems no one has actually found one of these. I really think its a myth. Who really have been to a café om where there are girls that will sit with you and fondle you in public?
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[QUOTE=MagicKid;2364384]I just rode like 30 mins slowly across a huge stretch of ql50 but I didn't find anything. Its like 2 pm now. Am I here at the wrong time? I'm looking for caphe oms that does BJ. Got to try BJ with coffee. Anyone in Saigon that wants to go around looking for value for money fun please hmu. Looking for buddies to explore around. I can speak basic Vietnamese; enough to get around.[/QUOTE]Later, later, it must be dark outside. Look for coffee shops with potted plants outside and colorful lights.
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[QUOTE=MatthewRyan;2367060]Hi FredFun,
Thanks for the information. I went to this area last night and I had a hard time finding any Hot Toc's. I'm also new to the city and probably got lost. Would you be willing to give a me a street number that's in the area. Or even better want to get a beer?
Matthew.[/QUOTE]Do you know the intersection Nguyen Thi Thap / Huynh Than Phat?
Drive Huynh Than Phat north an you will see some hundreds meters away two Hot Tocs on the left side. You will see a guy in the front, who is watching the motorbikes. I try the second Hot Toc. The guy is very nice and speak a little bit English. When you leave he ask you if the blowjob was good and said hope to see you again. Beöowjob is only 200.
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Bad Experience at Hoang Sa Heading West Just Past the Train Tracks
Went in to A Hot Toc on Hoang Sa and paid 500 K previously for a half hour. I went again and saw the same girl and after 20 minutes wanted 1 million dong for full service. Since she she wasn't letting me touch anything I declined and paid the 500 k to avoid any trouble and left.
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[QUOTE=DoppelH;2368727]Went in to A Hot Toc on Hoang Sa and paid 500 K previously for a half hour. I went again and saw the same girl and after 20 minutes wanted 1 million dong for full service. Since she she wasn't letting me touch anything I declined and paid the 500 k to avoid any trouble and left.[/QUOTE]Don't understand this kind of behaviour. Why guys pay for nothing? What are you afraid of seriously? 500 k for a hot toc is already too much so she s trying for more why not? Then you say no and you leave period. Why pay for no service? If you go to a restaurant and you don't eat you pay too?
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[QUOTE=FredFun;2368723]Do you know the intersection Nguyen Thi Thap / Huynh Than Phat?
Drive Huynh Than Phat north an you will see some hundreds meters away two Hot Tocs on the left side. You will see a guy in the front, who is watching the motorbikes. I try the second Hot Toc. The guy is very nice and speak a little bit English. When you leave he ask you if the blowjob was good and said hope to see you again. Beowjob is only 200.[/QUOTE]This place is very close to the hotel I am staying at. I'm going to check it soon. Thanks, Fred.
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[QUOTE=FredFun;2324973]Of course you can try a caphe om as foreigner, if you like coffee and blowjobs.
I wrote everything you must know before. As a newbie you can go to ql50. Drive south and after and Van Linh on the left side you will see the caphe oms.[/QUOTE]Can you take a photo of the outside. It is so hard for anyone to find this mystical place. You are virtually the only person in 3 years to have said they have been to a café om.
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[QUOTE=Sidtip;2369234]Can you take a photo of the outside. It is so hard for anyone to find this mystical place. You are virtually the only person in 3 years to have said they have been to a caf om.[/QUOTE]I agree with you, there are many cafe on ql50, I still have't found the cafe om he said.
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[QUOTE=Muzungufotsy;2368968]Don't understand this kind of behaviour. Why guys pay for nothing? What are you afraid of seriously? 500 k for a hot toc is already too much so she s trying for more why not? Then you say no and you leave period. Why pay for no service? If you go to a restaurant and you don't eat you pay too?[/QUOTE]Well I was getting service for those 20 minutes but I didn't finish because half the time I was being asked for boom boom. She gives a good blow job. She's a little on the chubby side (but not Khanh Linh chubby) and is still curvy and one of two I saw there that had any breasts. The others had washboard like chests. It was maybe 11-11:30 PM and all the other hot tocs had closed.
I went back today (Saturday) around 4:30 PM and only saw 2 hot tocs open heading west before you get to the train tracks. First one has young looking ladies and the second one had quite a bit older ladies. I paid 300 K. Service was OK. She looked like the girl that was over at Benny's Hot Toc in my other report. Might have been the same one. Nice breasts but could have been a little bigger. Nice body though.
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[QUOTE=DoppelH;2370548]Well I was getting service for those 20 minutes but I didn't finish because half the time I was being asked for boom boom. She gives a good blow job. She's a little on the chubby side (but not Khanh Linh chubby) and is still curvy and one of two I saw there that had any breasts. The others had washboard like chests. It was maybe 11-11:30 PM and all the other hot tocs had closed.
I went back today (Saturday) around 4:30 PM and only saw 2 hot tocs open heading west before you get to the train tracks. First one has young looking ladies and the second one had quite a bit older ladies. I paid 300 K. Service was OK. She looked like the girl that was over at Benny's Hot Toc in my other report. Might have been the same one. Nice breasts but could have been a little bigger. Nice body though.[/QUOTE]Guys like you are great for the girls and their business so accepting of low hanging fruit and so willing to pay top dollar for me ill pay 500 k to fuck this girl if I'm going to pay for a MILF I will pay 100-150 k for CIM.
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Hot Toc Questions: Dry Blow Job?
A couple of times that I've been to a hot toc the lady would be giving me a blow job and while the mouth was wet and moist, there was no spit or lubrication on my cock while their hand jerked me off underneath their mouth, which made my cock sore and in one instance started bleeding.
I gestured that I need spit or some sort of lubrication and I let them know I did not want them using their hand by moving it away from my cock.
One lady acted like I was nuts for not wanting her to jerk me off without lube.
Oh and when I get cleaned before the deed the lady will use a baby wipe and put it in the sink and rinse it out in the sink and wipe me with it.
What is up with that?
Is the wet wipe not wet enough that it needs water from the sink added to it?
And after I cum the same thing. I cum on the wet wipe and she rinses it out and wants to wipe me with it again.
I bring my own wet wipes anyway to avoid being cleaned with a wet wipe I just came on. Not something I want to end a session with.
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Disappointed
Based on reading this thread, I went to the hot tocs located on this street.
Nguyen Phi Khanh, Tan Dinh, District 1, Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam.
I tried 2 different ones and both times they asked me for 400 k. I started with 200 k and went up to 300 k but they wouldn't budge from 400 k so I said why not. The girls barely used their tongue or mouth at all, it's more like a mediocre hand job. They try to jerk you off as fast as possible so they can take the money and leave. One wouldn't even let me touch her boobs, like barely and seemed like she wanted to get it over as quickly as possible. I never had that experience before where they felt repulsed. Anyways, I don't think I'll be mongering in Vietnam. Language barrier is too big of a gap and the girls don't seem into it (at least when it comes to me). I get more satisfaction and enjoyment from watching porn and using my own hand then paying them $17 for a quickie.
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[QUOTE=Aganex01;2371255]Based on reading this thread, I went to the hot tocs located on this street.
Nguyen Phi Khanh, Tan Dinh, District 1, Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam.
I tried 2 different ones and both times they asked me for 400 k. I started with 200 k and went up to 300 k but they wouldn't budge from 400 k so I said why not. The girls barely used their tongue or mouth at all, it's more like a mediocre hand job. They try to jerk you off as fast as possible so they can take the money and leave. One wouldn't even let me touch her boobs, like barely and seemed like she wanted to get it over as quickly as possible. I never had that experience before where they felt repulsed. Anyways, I don't think I'll be mongering in Vietnam. Language barrier is too big of a gap and the girls don't seem into it (at least when it comes to me). I get more satisfaction and enjoyment from watching porn and using my own hand then paying them $17 for a quickie.[/QUOTE]This what happens when foreigners ruin a place IE paying 400-500 k when locals were paying 300 k, now NPK have charged locals 400 k also so it would be impossible for foreigners to pay less than that and given that foreigners are too clueless why should they bother to make a effort as you not likely to be a repeat customer unless you lived, and just as I wouldn't care whether you decided to monger in Vietnam or not so would be the attitude of the girls. IE no loss if you came or not (pun intended).
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[QUOTE=Aganex]The girls barely used their tongue or mouth at all, it's more like a mediocre hand job. They try to jerk you off as fast as possible so they can take the money and leave. One wouldn't even let me touch her boobs, like barely and seemed like she wanted to get it over as quickly as possible.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MutantChicken;2371477]This what happens when foreigners ruin a place IE paying 400-500 k when locals were paying 300 k...[/QUOTE]Unfortunately this is exactly right. I been told by numerous people and have my own experience that service and attitude at NPK has taken a nose-dive since around the time the first shops started asking foreigners for 400 k. Some suggest that it's gone the way Benny's and My Tien did a few years ago, 'a bad BJ is worse than no BJ'. It's undoubtedly related to foreigners paying whatever is asked and even tipping extra on top of being overcharged 'because it's cheaper than on Mars'.
In a previous mild disagreement with another poster I suggested to a newbie that he should agree to 400 k at NPK because 1) I knew they would otherwise let him walk and 2) in an effort to [B]restrict[/B] what he gave to 400 k and not to 'not have change' or 'not want to be cheap' etc. But it was game over at NPK by then.
I mentioned the general principle of tipping leading to poorer service to a friend at the weekend and got the usual puzzled reaction. I understand it is counter-intuitive, but he is the type who will tip big even if the sevice is bad to make them like him more next time. Economic masochism. Financial Domination is a real thing.
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_domination[/URL]
God help us all.
It doesn't matter to me if the price for a great BJ is 200/400/600/800 k. This point I can never get through to the tippers. It's not about the money. It about the bad attitude and service that appear to result from overpaying, and the way that it seems to make the women less amenable (panties up, don't suck my breasts etc.). The more I give the less I get from you, as the old song goes.
Coincidence does not necessarily imply causation. When demand goes up quality often goes down simultaneous to prices rising. But my hunch is that there is more to it than this.
Mark my words, this is a broader problem. Look at the horror stories coming out of Little Tokyo, Pasteur, Bui Vien bars and massage joints, the hundred dollar hags in Vung Tau. Everywhere we read about foreigners being overcharged and underdelivered, and then tipping, which is like a red rag to a bull.
Being polite, friendly and empathic can get you further with an unspoiled service provider than showing weakness. Pay a fair price and reward them with repeat business.
Disclaimer: I have overpaid and tipped on occasion. But I try to keep it tightly in check.
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[QUOTE]Based on reading this thread, I went to the hot tocs located on this street.
Nguyen Phi Khanh, Tan Dinh, District 1, Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam.
I tried 2 different ones and both times they asked me for 400 k. I started with 200 k and went up to 300 k but they wouldn't budge from 400 k so I said why not. The girls barely used their tongue or mouth at all, it's more like a mediocre hand job. They try to jerk you off as fast as possible so they can take the money and leave. One wouldn't even let me touch her boobs, like barely and seemed like she wanted to get it over as quickly as possible. I never had that experience before where they felt repulsed. Anyways, I don't think I'll be mongering in Vietnam. Language barrier is too big of a gap and the girls don't seem into it (at least when it comes to me). I get more satisfaction and enjoyment from watching porn and using my own hand then paying them $17 for a quickie.[/QUOTE]Sorry for your experience. Not sure where you went to but I have pretty good experience with hot toc on NPK.
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[QUOTE=Morton219;2371819]Sorry for your experience. Not sure where you went to but I have pretty good experience with hot toc on NPK.[/QUOTE]What is "pretty good" is relative, what I call pretty good is having a 6. 5 22 yr old give me a BBBJCIM when she is 69 on me for the cost of a drink and 120 k, or recently a 6.5 27 yr old who will get fully naked rim my ass catbath me all over give me a BBBJ CIM for 150 k incl drink or a busty slim 28 yr old who will rim me give me a BBBJCIM for 150 k, me paying 400 k for a similar girls to do similar things I wouldn't call pretty good as I'm paying 3 x as much. The girl would have to be much prettier. Note I'm pretty such my ratings are conservative IE my 6.5 is prob most peoples 7-8's.
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[QUOTE=Morton219;2371819]Sorry for your experience. Not sure where you went to but I have pretty good experience with hot toc on NPK.[/QUOTE]These 4 girls work in a hottoc will get naked give a BBBJ no CIM for 200 k.
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[QUOTE=MeoDen;2371732]Unfortunately this is exactly right. I been told by numerous people and have my own experience that service and attitude at NPK has taken a nose-dive since around the time the first shops started asking foreigners for 400 k. Some suggest that it's gone the way Benny's and My Tien did a few years ago, 'a bad BJ is worse than no BJ'. It's undoubtedly related to foreigners paying whatever is asked and even tipping extra on top of being overcharged 'because it's cheaper than on Mars'.
In a previous mild disagreement with another poster I suggested to a newbie that he should agree to 400 k at NPK because 1) I knew they would otherwise let him walk and 2) in an effort to [B]restrict[/B] what he gave to 400 k and not to 'not have change' or 'not want to be cheap' etc. But it was game over at NPK by then.
I mentioned the general principle of tipping leading to poorer service to a friend at the weekend and got the usual puzzled reaction. I understand it is counter-intuitive, but he is the type who will tip big even if the sevice is bad to make them like him more next time. Economic masochism. Financial Domination is a real thing..[/QUOTE]Agree, not sure why people would tip for bad service. I sure didn't and I try to keep it in check as well. Part of the game is getting a bargain price. This shows up in even normal day to day things and I just don't have the energy to argue when I am traveling with other people about over tipping and overpaying for everything. For example, I was traveling with a westerner on a scooter and he got a flat tire. Now, flat tires are generally in the 50 k range but the guy who fixed it asked for 150 k starting. My friend paid him 140 k, I'm like you can go lower it's typically 50 k but he said he "did a good job" and didn't want to spend time arguing over a few dollars as he is only here for a week. Thus, this inflates the price for every foreigner and will become expected / a norm. No way to really control that.
On the other hand, I think my mongering days are behind me. I would only have a handful of girls a year but I noticed that service has gone down the drain and not worth paying for anymore.
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[QUOTE=Aganex01;2373131] . Now, flat tires are generally in the 50 k range but the guy who fixed it asked for 150 k starting. My friend paid him 140 k, I'm like you can go lower it's typically 50 k but he said he "did a good job" and didn't want to spend time arguing over a few dollars as he is only here for a week. Thus, this inflates the price for every foreigner and will become expected / a norm. No way to really control that.
On the other hand, I think my mongering days are behind me. I would only have a handful of girls a year but I noticed that service has gone down the drain and not worth paying for anymore.[/QUOTE]Sorry to inform you is 15 k one five to patch a flat tire and 80 k to replace inner tubing so is you paying 50 k just to patch you already overpaying if he paying 150 x that's 10 x as much tell your buddy well sone letting a uneducated bike repairman treat him as a fool.
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[QUOTE=Aganex01;2373131]Agree, not sure why people would tip for bad service. I sure didn't and I try to keep it in check as well. Part of the game is getting a bargain price. This shows up in even normal day to day things and I just don't have the energy to argue when I am traveling with other people about over tipping and overpaying for everything. For example, I was traveling with a westerner on a scooter and he got a flat tire. Now, flat tires are generally in the 50 k range but the guy who fixed it asked for 150 k starting. My friend paid him 140 k, I'm like you can go lower it's typically 50 k but he said he "did a good job" and didn't want to spend time arguing over a few dollars as he is only here for a week. Thus, this inflates the price for every foreigner and will become expected / a norm. No way to really control that.
On the other hand, I think my mongering days are behind me. I would only have a handful of girls a year but I noticed that service has gone down the drain and not worth paying for anymore.[/QUOTE]I would never tell anyone what to pay (I might advise, give price information). We are all free to choose how we spend our money.
In some situations I might try to point out that overpaying will ultimately lead to a lack of respect on the part of the service provider, and thus bad service. But many don't really care what they pay. Unfortunately they often don't have any real sense of what they could or should be getting in the way of quality and attitude.
I say by all means reward good service, just don't assume that more money is the best way to do it.
There are times to tip. But if someone always tips or never tips, they don't know how to tip.
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[QUOTE=MutantChicken;2373312]Sorry to inform you is 15 k one five to patch a flat tire and 80 k to replace inner tubing so is you paying 50 k just to patch you already overpaying if he paying 150 x that's 10 x as much tell your buddy well sone letting a uneducated bike repairman treat him as a fool.[/QUOTE]If the tyre guy is smart enough to get 150 k for a repair he'll be smart enough to scatter some tacks and old nails on the road the next time he sees a sucker coming.
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[QUOTE=MutantChicken;2371993]These 4 girls work in a hottoc will get naked give a BBBJ no CIM for 200 k.[/QUOTE]Chicken. I've read your post over the past years and used this forum for my trip to VN. You like to post what you get or the girls you've slept with. But never drop any useful knowledge for the rest of us. Each person skill level on negotiation varies but empark your techniques and how to "make a deal. " I've been all over the World exploring, for all the places that overcharge I walk away. In VN is no different and I understand the language a bit and push back. Most of the time I'm walking away looking elsewhere but with time constraints it gets tough walking away from the committed time.
Investment. But in short share us your stories, techniques, trip reports. We know that you youreslef have expressed your appitude to "crush it" on several occasions. But obviously by the amount of people on here spending more than what you think, surely more can use some of your tricks. As for me, I say fuck it, go to PI. At least it's direct, GFE is the norm, you're going to get scammed anyways.
And side note, what's up with Quat Lam? I can barely find info on the place. Been to do son. Not really worth the work to get there but I exploring is part the fun.
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[QUOTE]These 4 girls work in a hottoc will get naked give a BBBJ no CIM for 200 k.[/QUOTE]Feel like I met the girl in the 4th pic, but I forgot where I met her. Can you tell me the name of that hottoc?
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[QUOTE=Morton219;2375196]Feel like I met the girl in the 4th pic, but I forgot where I met her. Can you tell me the name of that hottoc?[/QUOTE]I looked at your post history and I can't see any reports on a 200 k hottoc, so either you don't know and this is a duplicious way to find out or that you do know and kept that intel secret for yourself.
But no I don't bother to pay attention to names of shops or even note addresses I just know how to get there any other information has no purpose or value for me.
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[QUOTE=MutantChicken;2375267]I looked at your post history and I can't see any reports on a 200 k hottoc, so either you don't know and this is a duplicious way to find out or that you do know and kept that intel secret for yourself.
But no I don't bother to pay attention to names of shops or even note addresses I just know how to get there any other information has no purpose or value for me.[/QUOTE]OK. Sorry for bothering you for hottoc and cafe om name in my recent posts.
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[QUOTE=MutantChicken;2371993]These 4 girls work in a hottoc will get naked give a BBBJ no CIM for 200 k.[/QUOTE]Number 3 is gorgeous!
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[QUOTE=Mushuu09;2373712]Chicken. I've read your post over the past years and used this forum for my trip to VN. You like to post what you get or the girls you've slept with. But never drop any useful knowledge for the rest of us. Each person skill level on negotiation varies but empark your techniques and how to "make a deal. " I've been all over the World exploring, for all the places that overcharge I walk away. In VN is no different and I understand the language a bit and push back. Most of the time I'm walking away looking elsewhere but with time constraints it gets tough walking away from the committed time.
Investment. But in short share us your stories, techniques, trip reports. We know that you youreslef have expressed your appitude to "crush it" on several occasions. But obviously by the amount of people on here spending more than what you think, surely more can use some of your tricks. As for me, I say fuck it, go to PI. At least it's direct, GFE is the norm, you're going to get scammed anyways.
And side note, what's up with Quat Lam? I can barely find info on the place. Been to do son. Not really worth the work to get there but I exploring is part the fun.[/QUOTE]From what I understand, I think he sells his services and will give tours for when you are visiting VN for the appropriate price. MutantChiken, please correct me if I'm wrong but that was the impression I got from some previous posts I read a while back.
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Greetings all. So I was in HCH last spring and stayed in LE Lai street in a $20 a night place. Very good except they don't like me bringing in visitors. Across from my hotel there is a park that extends for about a good 500 meters or so and features a small stage where there is live music in the evening. On this evening I met a 45 something lady who immediately asked me to dance. We talked and one thing led to another. For the next few days she showed me around town on her motorcycle. BUT she was almost always accompanied by her teen age son who had some kind of emotional disability. Most annoying. One evening she did come back to my hotel with me for. We exchanged emails and phone numbers but, try as I may, I cannot reach her. Her phone simply does not work but she did say that she was short on money so maybe that's the explanation. She does not have access to email and phone and then changed numbers. At any rate I was wondering if anyone has come across her. She was very pleasant and quite the looker. And she kept saying that she was not a "taxi girl," BUT We hit it off well and I am keen on seeing her again on my next visit. Please PM me with any information you might have.
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Npk
Good evening. I haven't done NPK for a while but I have always had good luck. Fully nude by exquisite girl. What has changed? I will be back soon. That said, there is really only one venue on NPK that is worthwhile. Please see my previous reports. I am also interested in cafe OM, if anyone has any good intell. I have a few good places which hopefully are still up and running.
Cheers!
[QUOTE=MutantChicken;2371892]What is "pretty good" is relative, what I call pretty good is having a 6. 5 22 yr old give me a BBBJCIM when she is 69 on me for the cost of a drink and 120 k, or recently a 6.5 27 yr old who will get fully naked rim my ass catbath me all over give me a BBBJ CIM for 150 k incl drink or a busty slim 28 yr old who will rim me give me a BBBJCIM for 150 k, me paying 400 k for a similar girls to do similar things I wouldn't call pretty good as I'm paying 3 x as much. The girl would have to be much prettier. Note I'm pretty such my ratings are conservative IE my 6.5 is prob most peoples 7-8's.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=RoamingViking;2377081]Good evening. I haven't done NPK for a while but I have always had good luck. Fully nude by exquisite girl. What has changed? I will be back soon. That said, there is really only one venue on NPK that is worthwhile. Please see my previous reports. I am also interested in cafe OM, if anyone has any good intell. I have a few good places which hopefully are still up and running.
Cheers![/QUOTE]Your post was in 2017, 2 yrs in Vn means a lot of changes, both in locations, girls and service levels. I stopped going to npk when it started charging more and had less attractive girls.
To put things in perspective in 2017 your were paying from your rp 200 to the shop and then you tipped 200-300 k, at that time the local price was 150+150 and shops not on npk were 100+100. Today I can still find shops charging 100+100 though on average its 150+200. Given that you were already overpaying in 2017 and now the official price even for locals on npk is 200+200 you will probably feel that is acceptable. Also given that you have expressed sexual interest in a 45 yr old then the girls looks may be acceptable for you.
As to your cafe om, I believe your were grossly overpaying, 120 k for your coffee and the your would tip 100 k, at that time in 2017 it was 120 k incl the tip it was something like 40 k for the drink and normally you would round up to 100 k. FYI the official price for locals now is 60-80 k for the drink and 100 k for the girl. I never found that area very good as the girl were too old for my liking, sure you can find a few gems around if you are lucky but for that price I could find a girls who would give me a BBBJ.
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Clarification
So, I did not post about my latest explorations in HCM last year, but I can assure you that they were most enjoyable. At 594 with the flowerpots I had a superb experience, which is highly unusual in this venue from all that I have heard and observed first-hand. I checked this twenty-something bunny out to a nearby hotel a day or two later for 800 K.
And my moto bike driver took me to a few exceptional places around town where everything was possible. Prices are what they are for a farang and sometimes it just isn't possible to bargain.
At NPK 84 I have many good experiences, but 400 K is standard fare. I was not disappointed. Full nude and very yummy-looking late teen ager who let me grope and more to my hearts delight. Money well-spent if you ask me.
It sure beats Bennys. With my much larger than average body frame I could hardly fit on the so-called massage table and my lady serviced me on her knees with me leaning backward. I haven't been back since and don't plan to anytime soon.
About the mystery lady I guess all I can say is that sometimes the pleasure lies half in the hunt. She was exceptionally nice and in the end we were both more than fulfilled. Asian ladies age amazingly so age ultimately matters less than appearances. Beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder, right.
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Still possible to pay 300 k at NPK as of yesterday at least in one venue if you know the mamasan. Quality of girls and service is definitely down. Girls have been used to overpaying customers who tip even for bad service. I didn't. Next time will meet a Kynu girl I know for 400 k instead. This will be good FS and not poor BJ.
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[QUOTE=MeoDen;2371732]Look at the horror stories coming out of Little Tokyo, Pasteur, Bui Vien bars and massage joints, the hundred dollar hags in Vung Tau. Everywhere we read about foreigners being overcharged and underdelivered, and then tipping, which is like a red rag to a bull.[/QUOTE]By and large I've been very impressed with the girls I've seen in Little Tokyo and Vung Tau, and the guys I've talked to in Vung Tau seemed happy enough as well. Though I tend to stay clear of full time expats, as invariably they ***** about everything. I've visited Vung Tau for near on a decade now, sporadically, but aside from girls that don't go with customers period, had no complaints. A little vetting goes a long way. I've seen guys with girls that so clearly aren't interested, I don't know what they're thinking. If the girl is not giving you positive signs, move on. That's going to take care of 90% of the problems. Far more effective that speculating on the perfect tip amount that won't ruin service.
Little Tokyo, very expensive, but the quality is off the chart. IMO the only place that compares for highest density of hotties in a small area, was the now closed Alexis hotel in Jakarta. I'm biased as I have a thing for Vietnamese women, I see what I consider model quality girls there, that I can't find anywhere else. I visit Thai gogo's a lot, but in comparison hardly ever barfine, as the quality doesn't justify the price. At Little Tokyo massage places I typically get asked 500 k for HJ, 1 m oral, 2 m for full service (FS varies 1.5 m-3 m, but normally 2 m). Service is outstanding for some girls, things like putting your shoes on afterwards. More often than not they're quite warm upstairs, a contrast to the stony expression many have downstairs. I would say 20% of the girls gave me a forgettable experience, the rest have been good. Since you can't vet these girls, I consider that not bad at all.
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[QUOTE=Sam588;2390344]By and large I've been very impressed with the girls I've seen in Little Tokyo and Vung Tau, and the guys I've talked to in Vung Tau seemed happy enough as well. Though I tend to stay clear of full time expats, as invariably they ***** about everything. I've visited Vung Tau for near on a decade now, sporadically, but aside from girls that don't go with customers period, had no complaints. A little vetting goes a long way. I've seen guys with girls that so clearly aren't interested, I don't know what they're thinking. If the girl is not giving you positive signs, move on. That's going to take care of 90% of the problems. Far more effective that speculating on the perfect tip amount that won't ruin service.
Little Tokyo, very expensive, but the quality is off the chart. IMO the only place that compares for highest density of hotties in a small area, was the now closed Alexis hotel in Jakarta. I'm biased as I have a thing for Vietnamese women, I see what I consider model quality girls there, that I can't find anywhere else. I visit Thai gogo's a lot, but in comparison hardly ever barfine, as the quality doesn't justify the price. At Little Tokyo massage places I typically get asked 500 k for HJ, 1 m oral, 2 m for full service (FS varies 1.5 m-3 m, but normally 2 m). Service is outstanding for some girls, things like putting your shoes on afterwards. More often than not they're quite warm upstairs, a contrast to the stony expression many have downstairs. I would say 20% of the girls gave me a forgettable experience, the rest have been good. Since you can't vet these girls, I consider that not bad at all.[/QUOTE]Your information about Vung Tau is much more up to date than mine. I was last there in 2004. I do talk to people who live there, and most say they wouldn't be there for the prostitution scene.
I agree regarding attractiveness of women working in Little Tokyo versus Thailand gogos, but way back there were many cute and barfinable hotties working in Bangkok. Times have changed.
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I am sorry, jesus christ, they charge you 1 m for a blowjob at little tokyo? The oral is 500 k and the handjob is 3-ish and you can have full sex with just about anybody for 1.2 m there if you are not an asshole and look semi decent.
Are we talking about a different little tokyo? Yes, the girls are prettier than the usual street urchins and hot tocs but nowhere near as beautiful as you describe so I believe maybe yours is different.
[QUOTE=Sam588;2390344]By and large I've been very impressed with the girls I've seen in Little Tokyo and Vung Tau, and the guys I've talked to in Vung Tau seemed happy enough as well. Though I tend to stay clear of full time expats, as invariably they ***** about everything. I've visited Vung Tau for near on a decade now, sporadically, but aside from girls that don't go with customers period, had no complaints. A little vetting goes a long way. I've seen guys with girls that so clearly aren't interested, I don't know what they're thinking. If the girl is not giving you positive signs, move on. That's going to take care of 90% of the problems. Far more effective that speculating on the perfect tip amount that won't ruin service.
Little Tokyo, very expensive, but the quality is off the chart. IMO the only place that compares for highest density of hotties in a small area, was the now closed Alexis hotel in Jakarta. I'm biased as I have a thing for Vietnamese women, I see what I consider model quality girls there, that I can't find anywhere else. I visit Thai gogo's a lot, but in comparison hardly ever barfine, as the quality doesn't justify the price. At Little Tokyo massage places I typically get asked 500 k for HJ, 1 m oral, 2 m for full service (FS varies 1.5 m-3 m, but normally 2 m). Service is outstanding for some girls, things like putting your shoes on afterwards. More often than not they're quite warm upstairs, a contrast to the stony expression many have downstairs. I would say 20% of the girls gave me a forgettable experience, the rest have been good. Since you can't vet these girls, I consider that not bad at all.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=BinhThanh;2390586]I am sorry, jesus christ, they charge you 1 m for a blowjob at little tokyo? The oral is 500 k and the handjob is 3-ish and you can have full sex with just about anybody for 1.2 m there if you are not an asshole and look semi decent.[/QUOTE]Hand job for 3-ish, less than the shop ticket price of 400 k? How many other massage shops do you know of, where standard HJ prices are less than the shop ticket price? I'm sorry this stretches credibility for me. First how many girls at 400 k a piece did you have to ask to finally get that price? How many times did you have to endure the words 'not lucky' from the girl, during prolonged negotiations (my personal record has been several dozen).
As for 1. 2 m for FS, I suppose we should all be celebrating. As it's known the massage parlors for local men, are frequently getting charged 800 k-1000 k for FS at the more popular venues. Which means Japanese tourists have hardly caused any price increase at all. Happy days. Except does anyone actually believe that to be the case? I can you link you to multiple reports, in Vietnamese (from locals), stating tips of 800 k-1000 k, where they don't even get to choose the girl.
[QUOTE=BinhThanh;2390586]Are we talking about a different little tokyo? Yes, the girls are prettier than the usual street urchins and hot tocs but nowhere near as beautiful as you describe so I believe maybe yours is different.[/QUOTE]Cherry massage for instance, I've made take it or leave it offers for 1.5 m, and they left it. That doesn't mean some girls won't do 1.2 m if they're less popular, but when you've had over 10 girls, without exception, quote prices at or above 500/1000/2000, you know that's in the ballpark. That was very consistent, and will be the opening gambit for the majority for western mongers in 2019. It's higher for Asians, I know for a fact some are paying 3 m FS, though I don't know how common that is.
In terms of whether they have some of the prettiest girls you can find, the burning question is where is better (near that price point)? If you can't say, then I must take that as tacit agreement, the girls there are top notch. The Duyen Dang girls give them a run for their money, but short of high end KTVs, I can't think of any places I can more easily spot a head turner.
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No and no.
Because you are not a local, your prices, like every fucking where in Vn start exactly 200% compared to what you should be paying. Every single girl knows and utilizes this. Ticket price not counted of course. And yes, there are a few places where they still don't differentiate between foreigners and locals, like Phan van Tri Ngoc Diep, 90 k ticket, 200 handjob 300 blowjob 500 FS (if they accept FS, varies). But the prices are set in stone there.
So if you are coerced to pay 1 m for a blowjob, for 10% better looking ladies, then its your own fault to lose so much money. And yes, if you look at kynu or the locals, 300 k for FULl FS with a gorgeous chick or 500 for an hour FS definitely puts it in perspective that the massage salons you visit prey on customers like you.
Take it or leave it? Then leave it, who cares, you have a lot better options.
[QUOTE=Sam588;2390932]Hand job for 3-ish, less than the shop ticket price of 400 k? How many other massage shops do you know of, where standard HJ prices are less than the shop ticket price? I'm sorry this stretches credibility for me. First how many girls at 400 k a piece did you have to ask to finally get that price? How many times did you have to endure the words 'not lucky' from the girl, during prolonged negotiations (my personal record has been several dozen).
As for 1. 2 m for FS, I suppose we should all be celebrating. As it's known the massage parlors for local men, are frequently getting charged 800 k-1000 k for FS at the more popular venues. Which means Japanese tourists have hardly caused any price increase at all. Happy days. Except does anyone actually believe that to be the case? I can you link you to multiple reports, in Vietnamese (from locals), stating tips of 800 k-1000 k, where they don't even get to choose the girl.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Sam588;2390932]Hand job for 3-ish, less than the shop ticket price of 400 k? How many other massage shops do you know of, where standard HJ prices are less than the shop ticket price? I'm sorry this stretches credibility for me. First how many girls at 400 k a piece did you have to ask to finally get that price? How many times did you have to endure the words 'not lucky' from the girl, during prolonged negotiations (my personal record has been several dozen).
As for 1. 2 m for FS, I suppose we should all be celebrating. As it's known the massage parlors for local men, are frequently getting charged 800 k-1000 k for FS at the more popular venues. Which means Japanese tourists have hardly caused any price increase at all. Happy days. Except does anyone actually believe that to be the case? I can you link you to multiple reports, in Vietnamese (from locals), stating tips of 800 k-1000 k, where they don't even get to choose the girl.
Cherry massage for instance, I've made take it or leave it offers for 1.5 m, and they left it. That doesn't mean some girls won't do 1.2 m if they're less popular, but when you've had over 10 girls, without exception, quote prices at or above 500/1000/2000, you know that's in the ballpark. That was very consistent, and will be the opening gambit for the majority for western mongers in 2019. It's higher for Asians, I know for a fact some are paying 3 m FS, though I don't know how common that is.r.[/QUOTE]One more thing, I never said their quotes are not the same. I am just saying they are always ready to half their price in a heartbeat if you don't like a complete idiot. Minimal negotiating and some frame really drops even condomless FS from 3 mil to 1 mil very quickly. If a girl offered FS, you can be sure she will say yes for it for 700-1. 2 m depending on how used she is.
What I am trying to say is I have been living here for 3 years almost now which is not too much but did quite a few dozen tens of millions of mongering and I always get back to the point where I realize the best way to get FS or a decently priced handjob is to either go NTD or pick a spa where FS is available, have a good smelling body and dress decently and treat them with respect, then they will be begging for you to spend money on them and lower their prices. Its low seasons after all, that's the other thing.
Never heard "unlucky". I always just heard: Noooo, pleeease.
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[QUOTE=BinhThanh;2391265]I am just saying they are always ready to half their price in a heartbeat if you don't like a complete idiot. Minimal negotiating[/QUOTE]I just told you I offered 1.5 m and they refused, then you come back with 'always ready to halve their price'? That's plainly misleading, they very evidently don't *always* drop their price. I don't care to speculate on the precise ratio of girls that will or won't negotiate, but I can tell you plenty have played hardball on price. Certainly enough that any new mongers should be prepared to be knocked back. Hell 10 years ago, I had trouble negotiating FS down from 1 m Post Office in Vung Tau, which was the last time I bothered to visit a massage place in Vung Tau as the quality didn't justify the price (nor did you get to choose the girl).
Kynu has girls ranging from 250 k to 2. 5 m, you can't cherry pick the 500 k girls and hold that up as evidence locals get it for cheaper. Never mind the inconvenience for a foreigner to organize with a kynu girl who, who may not respond to foreigners, and in most cases you don't get to see her face before hand.
[QUOTE=BinhThanh]or the locals, 300 k for FULl FS with a gorgeous chick or 500 for an hour FS definitely puts it in perspective that the massage salons you visit prey on customers like you.[/QUOTE]You don't seem to understand me. Locals are paying 1 m for FS as some of these massage places. Yes they have the cheaper places, but they're paying more where they feel the quality merits it.
Here's a challenge for you, go visit the congdongmassage website, it's filled with reviews from Vietnamese men. Now search for reviews of Amis massage, or Post Office massage, some of the more popular (heavily reviewed) massage shops. Now find me a single review, where the tip was less than 800 k for FS. Just one. You'll find loads where the price of 800 k-1000 k is what they paid, on top of the shop fee.
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[QUOTE=Sam588;2391700] Here's a challenge for you, go visit the congdongmassage website, it's filled with reviews from Vietnamese men. Now search for reviews of Amis massage, or Post Office massage, some of the more popular (heavily reviewed) massage shops. Now find me a single review, where the tip was less than 800 k for FS. Just one. You'll find loads where the price of 800 k-1000 k is what they paid, on top of the shop fee.[/QUOTE]You do know congdongmassage is a page created by the owners of the massage parlors right? And a vast majority of the reviews are written by fake users who then post inflated prices, and the rest are local newbies who if you were fluent in vietnamese and not using google translate would be able to pick that up as they state that clearly in their post anyway (HCMC reviews). I know for a fact the girls accept less than what is posted on congdongmassage.
Secondly you mention amis and postoffice which is in vungtau, prices in vungtau are different than those in saigon, this is compounded by the fact that that reviews for amis etc are written by saigonese tourist visiting vung tau not local vungtau men.
The point is there are guys who bargain well and get local prices and there are chumps even amongst local men who are not hardcore mongerers. When someone tells you that a certain product can be gains for a cheaper price most people will say thanks ok next time ill pay that price, but as soon as the product is pussy well all sorts of chest thumping and bravado comes out.
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[QUOTE=MutantChicken;2391859]You do know congdongmassage is a page created by the owners of the massage parlors right? And a vast majority of the reviews are written by fake users who then post inflated prices, and the rest are local newbies who if you were fluent in vietnamese and not using google translate would be able to pick that up as they state that clearly in their post anyway (HCMC reviews). I know for a fact the girls accept less than what is posted on congdongmassage.
Secondly you mention amis and postoffice which is in vungtau, prices in vungtau are different than those in saigon, this is compounded by the fact that that reviews for amis etc are written by saigonese tourist visiting vung tau not local vungtau men.
The point is there are guys who bargain well and get local prices and there are chumps even amongst local men who are not hardcore mongerers. When someone tells you that a certain product can be gains for a cheaper price most people will say thanks ok next time ill pay that price, but as soon as the product is pussy well all sorts of chest thumping and bravado comes out.[/QUOTE]Talk about moving the goalposts. First it's locals pay less. Now it's locals except for local newbies, or locals from 2 hours away. I asked for a single review, just one, where they got 'local prices'. Fake reviews or not, you would think there would be one in there. Not claiming it hasn't happened, you shouldn't have read that into my comment, I'm pointing out that no, westerners aren't the only people paying these prices.
Prices are, as a rule, cheaper in Vung Tau, especially compared to a Japanese tourist hotspot. This is evident everywhere you go in Asia. If it's a Japanese hotspot, prices tend to be higher. So not sure why you think pointing out it's Vung Tau supports your argument.
I know for a fact, many girls will not negotiate down. Not just one or two, multiple. It's not about saying you can't get prices lower, but having your expectations calibrated going in. It is good to know that some people are getting better deals, and this is important information for mongers. What is not helpful, is saying all girls will negotiate down heavily, or that you must be doing something wrong ('be an arsehole') if you don't get these prices.
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Newbies guide
For all the one post wonders out there who come on here and asks dumb questions that has been answered a dozen times I present the easiest way to bust a nut in town.
On the street pictured there's at least 10 Hot Tocs that will happily accept your seed. They're all 400 K dong with no tip expected and you choose your girl from a lineup. There's always a guy sitting out front who will ask you to go in and take a look.
The first 2 times I went I found a girl that was acceptable but when I went tonight I tried 2 places with girls who weren't up to scratch before the third one I tried was good.
Service each time I've been has been excellent. BBBJ with CIM is what you will receive and these girls certainly know what they're doing. Two out of three allowed fingering. Every time so far the girls have been very friendly and put you entirely at ease.
Security is not a problem.
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[QUOTE=Grrrr;2396206]For all the one post wonders out there who come on here and asks dumb questions that has been answered a dozen times I present the easiest way to bust a nut in town.
On the street pictured there's at least 10 Hot Tocs that will happily accept your seed. They're all 400 K dong with no tip expected and you choose your girl from a lineup. There's always a guy sitting out front who will ask you to go in and take a look.
The first 2 times I went I found a girl that was acceptable but when I went tonight I tried 2 places with girls who weren't up to scratch before the third one I tried was good.
Service each time I've been has been excellent. BBBJ with CIM is what you will receive and these girls certainly know what they're doing. Two out of three allowed fingering. Every time so far the girls have been very friendly and put you entirely at ease.
Security is not a problem.[/QUOTE]You should say newbie rip off instead. Quality and service is way down since Western guys started overpaying. Normal price for a BJ is 200 in HCM. You can get FS for 400 easily. Just have to be a less lazy than most guys who come here and pay without thinking. Why mentioning security? This is Vietnam not Africa.
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[QUOTE=Grrrr;2396206]For all the one post wonders out there who come on here and asks dumb questions that has been answered a dozen times I present the easiest way to bust a nut in town.
On the street pictured there's at least 10 Hot Tocs that will happily accept your seed. They're all 400 K dong with no tip expected and you choose your girl from a lineup. There's always a guy sitting out front who will ask you to go in and take a look.
The first 2 times I went I found a girl that was acceptable but when I went tonight I tried 2 places with girls who weren't up to scratch before the third one I tried was good.
Service each time I've been has been excellent. BBBJ with CIM is what you will receive and these girls certainly know what they're doing. Two out of three allowed fingering. Every time so far the girls have been very friendly and put you entirely at ease.
Security is not a problem.[/QUOTE]Yes, NPK is the tourist go to place for semi-decent service. If you go NTD, the girl quality looks wise might deteriorate but the price is half of the 400 k but if you go, please stay firmly at 200 k (and pick 2 girls for your 400 k) and have double the fun.
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[QUOTE=BinhThanh;2396623]Yes, NPK is the tourist go to place for semi-decent service. If you go NTD, the girl quality looks wise might deteriorate but the price is half of the 400 k but if you go, please stay firmly at 200 k (and pick 2 girls for your 400 k) and have double the fun.[/QUOTE]I spent 4 days in HMC last year & I visited a Hot Toc on NPK street twice. I chose a different girl each time, both very good looking, white skin, early twenties. I had them both strip down to their panties & got an excellent BBBJCIM both times. Neither of them would remove their panties completely however although one let me roll them down to mid thigh. No money was requested up front & I gave the mms 400 k on the way out. I was being quite picky & walked in to several different establishments & saw the line up before deciding which one I'd go to & no one had a problem with that.
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[QUOTE=Grrrr;2396206]For all the one post wonders out there who come on here and asks dumb questions that has been answered a dozen times I present the easiest way to bust a nut in town.
On the street pictured there's at least 10 Hot Tocs that will happily accept your seed. They're all 400 K dong with no tip expected and you choose your girl from a lineup. There's always a guy sitting out front who will ask you to go in and take a look.
The first 2 times I went I found a girl that was acceptable but when I went tonight I tried 2 places with girls who weren't up to scratch before the third one I tried was good.
Service each time I've been has been excellent. BBBJ with CIM is what you will receive and these girls certainly know what they're doing. Two out of three allowed fingering. Every time so far the girls have been very friendly and put you entirely at ease.
Security is not a problem.[/QUOTE](3rd night) Thanks for this reference! I found a shop with a lady I'd rate as a 7. 5 in looks after visiting 6 shops up and down the street. I was only in HCMC for 3 days and visited this location on the last day. I had already gone to Queen Bee earlier in the day and I have a hard time climaxing with just a BBBJ, especially if I already came before, so she wasn't able to get me to finish. The price was as you said: 400 k. I should have asked her if FS was available, but I lost motivation after 15 minutes or so into the BBBJ. I'd rate most of these girls a 5. 5.
After the hot toc, went to JTown again and into a bar. Spent about 2.5 hours and about 1 mil with a very beautiful 20 yo. Pic is of her in the black dress and front in the lineup.
I understand there's a bunch of you guys that get all riled up when guys like me pay such high prices. But 1) to me, that's worth it. $45 to spend 2.5 hours drinking with a beautiful girl (half of which were my drinks). 2) If you're looking for a bargain, you're probably not going to be looking at JTown anyways, so there's no conflict of interest here. 3) With only 3 days to play, I wasn't interested in banging 5's for 400 k. Nor did I have the time to search for that beautiful 9 unicorn offering her FS for less than 500 k.
(3rd day) Queen Bee was an interesting experience. 400 k for entrance fee. I was first quoted 1. 4 mil for FS when I told them I was Korean. Inside, when I told them I'm American, they quoted me 1 mil. I chose a very attractive girl from the lineup (I'd rate her a 9). Tip was asked for upfront, which got me nervous, but all was well. She wouldn't take off her top, but I was able to put a couple digits inside her as she was doing her BLS and BBBJ. Basic positions were covered (CG, ACG, mish, and k9).
2nd day / night. Planned on hitting JTown and a couple other spots. Never made it past JTown. Gorgeous women in all these massage spas all offering FS for a much MUCH higher price than your average shop. I settled on Kawaii spa. 600 k for 90 min VIP room. 2 mil for FS from the girl in the pink scarf (looks: 9). I don't regret it one bit. Amazing service from an amazing girl. After that, went to the alleys of little Tokyo and found a stunning girl (blonde hair in pics) after walking around for about 45 min. I don't think the pic does her justice. She's a 10 in my books. 500 k for about 1.5 hours of drinking and talking to her. Thoroughly enjoyed my 2nd day.
1st night. I read that the Bui Vien exchange closes at 10 PM, but they were already closed when I got there at 9. So I just walk around. This guy walks up to me and shows me a bunch of pics of beautiful girls on his phone. He said it's OK to just go and look. Stupid me hops onto the back of his bike and he takes me on a 5-10 min bike ride to a building, up the stairs and into a room. He has a bunch of girls walk in for a lineup. He says 1. 5 mil for FS. I tell him I only have USD, which he says it's ok. He'll give me change. Since I didn't want my first night in VN to end with blue balls, and I didn't have VND, I said OK. I chose a pretty cute girl. But she's super cold. After the guy leaves, she tells me to give her more money for better service because the boss takes all the money. I tell her no, walk out and find the guy. He says to relax and she'll provide FS. He takes me back up the stairs, tells the girl something, and she reluctantly says OK. I take a shower (brought my clothes and wallet into the bathroom with me). She starts literally whacking my dick up and down with very little enthusiasm. I don't give a shit. I start feeling up her breasts and start getting hard. She puts the cover on and lays down like a dead fish. I go to town on this girl and I can feel her breath getting heavier and pussy getting wetter. A few minutes later, I'm done. As we're cleaning up, she asks me for taxi fare and I tell her no.
This first night is probably my biggest regret of my HCMC trip. One thing led to another and ended up in a poor situation, making a bad decision.
Sorry for the weird review format with the backwards timeline. I started with a reply to Grrr's post and went from there.
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[QUOTE=Grrrr;2396206]For all the one post wonders out there who come on here and asks dumb questions that has been answered a dozen times I present the easiest way to bust a nut in town.
On the street pictured there's at least 10 Hot Tocs that will happily accept your seed. They're all 400 K dong with no tip expected and you choose your girl from a lineup. There's always a guy sitting out front who will ask you to go in and take a look.
The first 2 times I went I found a girl that was acceptable but when I went tonight I tried 2 places with girls who weren't up to scratch before the third one I tried was good.
Service each time I've been has been excellent. BBBJ with CIM is what you will receive and these girls certainly know what they're doing. Two out of three allowed fingering. Every time so far the girls have been very friendly and put you entirely at ease.
Security is not a problem.[/QUOTE]Great info post! Thanks for sharing. I was in HCM for a few days and found Hot Tocs easily as detailed by this post.
I found the girl quality to be very low compared to Queen Bee and JTown, commonly range 3-6/10. With effort, looking into ~7 Hot Tocs on the street, found an 8. Good service for 400k.
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Getting PMs asking for info on the specific Hot Toc.
The man out front said photos were OK, so I'll post here.
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Where to go in Hanoi for No Condom Blow Job Price?
Hi guys,
Would appreciate address in Hanoi where to go for mo condom CIM blow job. Price and address please.
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NTD and NPK
Hey guys, just curious. I know that NPK = Nguyen Phi Khan, but what's NTD?
Thanks.
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[QUOTE=Tmackly;2399492]Hey guys, just curious. I know that NPK = Nguyen Phi Khan, but what's NTD?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Probably Nguyen Thi Dinh D2, there are lots of Hottoc and cafe on that street.
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YMMV, depending on the girl.
- 901 Huynh Tan Phat, Q. 7 (Recommended).
There are 4 girls working there. One has a decent face, but a great body. The other had a better face, but slightly chubby.
I took a girl, and the guy said, "money". He showed me 250 K. I paid up front. Different from my other experiences where I paid afterwards. Wondering if that is standard. Wondering if that is the local cost. The 250 K was all in, no additional money required. BBBJ. FS was on the menu for that girl. Wondering if additional tip is required. I asked for rimming. She said no. I said money, then she performed without telling me the tip amount. She was happy with 100 K. The other girl said money when I asked for CIM.
- 84 NPK Q. 1 (Recommended).
This is the famous one. Many girls here. People whine about the 400 K price. But IMO, there wouldn't be many cute girls if the price wasn't that high. But for the very cute girls, you have to go early. Many girls will be sleeping. My guess is that the very cute girls are working 2 jobs, maybe at a Karaoke, and they come here to sleep and earn some extra money. I don't see those stunners late in the day.
- 90 NPK Q. 1 (Not recommended).
There were only 3 girls working. No doorman. 2 were ugly. 1 was decent, but she seemed to be in an angry mood. I picked her. Big mistake. No A/C in the room. In the room, she slapped my hand away when she wanted to change position. She refused to continue after 10 minutes. You pay 400 K afterwards. I wanted to only pay 200 K. But I paid the entire amount because I didn't want to create a scene.
- 112 NPK Q. 1 (Recommended).
There's a doorman and many girls here. I picked a girl that had a good smile. She might have been the 3rd cutest girl I saw in my 2 visits at that place. BBBJ, rimming and CIM. Best GFE I've had at a Hot Toc.
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Queen Bee
What is the address for Queen Bee? Will be in HCMC next month.
TIA!
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What's the latest on cafe oms?
Hi all, I am planning a trip soon. It has been almost a while.
So, what is the latest on cafe oms, places where you can get you know more than just a hug?
You see an pm me f you like.
Cheers!
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[QUOTE=Winnerforever13;2401011]What is the address for Queen Bee? Will be in HCMC next month.
TIA![/QUOTE]It's in Google Maps mate, easy to find.
27-28 Đ432;7901;ng Số 2, Hưng Gia, 5 Phú Mỹ Hưng, Phư417;ng, Tâand Phong, Quậand 7, Hồ Chí Minh.