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have anyone of you tried the escort services advertised on "buy and sell"? any recommendations?
Agent Orange
Not out of the buy and sell, but below are "agents" who i have known for the last three years.
P3,000 will get you anything you want.
Jean 0917 9645405
Jo-Ann 0916 4046515
Len Len 0917 8988045
Susan 0916 3427692
GROpapa
There is a girl called stella who works at the landmark in their novelties (ironic really) section and freelances at night.
Jean (above) has her details.
Also, a student called Lyca living in merville.
Susan (above) has her details.
Good luck and keep us posted
TS
TS,
The ladies you listed below, how are they in hte LOOKS department? Are they cool to checking them out first? I will be in Manila in a few weeks.
Thanks,
Sajora
[QUOTE]Originally posted by sajora
[i]TS,
The ladies you listed below, how are they in hte LOOKS department? Are they cool to checking them out first? I will be in Manila in a few weeks.
Thanks,
Sajora [/i][/QUOTE]
Are these girls available in Makati? Or only in Manila??
nite_runner
Available in Makati and Manila.
Sajora
The numbers listed are Ex-Working girls, now networking workers with clients.
Tell them exactly what your preference is and, within a few hours, they could even get you siamese twins, if thats your bag.
Enjoy
TS
Tonyshimada,
I tried last night to text these numbers:
Jean 0917 9645405
Jo-Ann 0916 4046515
Len Len 0917 8988045
Susan 0916 3427692
Jo-Ann refused to deal with me and even went to ask me where I got her number. I had no choice but to mention your name. She said she called you and you even said you didn't know my name.
Too bad, I was willing to pay them their regular fee.
Next time,
Roubaix
Roubaix,
Had a similar problem with the "lady" in question. Seemed educated enough but backed off on the goods. Only one other has responded (Jean) but seems too provincial.
Suggest sticking to MP's....they are more experienced and provide the service expected.
S
Was just wondering about the numbers in buy and sell. I saw their web site on the net and their escort adds had some lines like celebrities or starlets. Has anybody tried calling these people and ask about these so-called celebrities or starlets? That would really be an experience that may be worth spending on especially for us locals. I wouldnt advise foreigners to take that up since you guys probably wont be able to recognize them anyways and you could probably find a better bargain with similar looks.
Anyway, if anybody has any kind of info on these celebs or starlets or where we could possibly find them, it would be appreciated.
im planning my xmas vacation... where in rp is the best place for action... some say its in angeles or cebu... in terms of rates and quality... justify your response...
agent orange
dont be lazy,look up the past posts,magbasa ka naman,it is bad enough you insult people like me by saying i like girls who look like maids,now you want me to guide you about cebu,i have spent 12 years in cebu and consider it my home and i got out my information the hard way when you own a travel agency and partnerships in a hotel and two beach resorts,why dont be switch this discussion into cebuano so you know that it is impolite to insult people in a language they cannot understand.i am not angry just pointing out that you do insult people and think that the dayuhan cannot speak tagalog
cebu local: im not asking you to guide me about cebu coz i know more about cebu than you do. im not insulting you.. but im just merely stating a fact that most angeles girls do look like maids and i think most local posters here would agree.
kahibalo ko ma-estorya og bisan unsa nga lenguahe para imo masabtan
ayaw pagsamoksamok sa ako
Agent orange
Pasay loa ko kay nasuko ko,nasayran nako nga wala nimo gi gituyo ang pagpasakit sa imong isig kataw,going back to english,i am sorry for my outburst,i realize you did not mean to offend,i just hope you realize how irritating it is sometimes to be insulted by somebody who thinks you dont understand.i agree that the girls in AC look like what most maids look like,but this is pretty to expats,i personally prefer chinita,but i dont make fun of my friends companions even if they look like....regards
I guess its lucky for us locals that foreigners actually have different tastes in chosing girls. I guess they prefer the native, exotic type. Makes it a little more exciting I guess. But I wont complain about that and neither should you. To each his own right?
qc boy
correct,in fact it is good thing that foriegners prefer the short and dark and filipinos prefer chinita and tisay,that way all girls depending on how they look will have customers,when the us forces where here in cebu they went wild driving up the prices of girls,the only ones left where the chinita and the tisays hehehe,since the locals and those with pinoy tastes had a good time.but of course i get hurt when people say that my friends date looks like a chimay,so i guess i really shouldnt argue,since with my looks and my language skills,i pass myself off as mestizo.next time be sensitive to the feelings of foriegn posters with different tastes regards
We locals should be very grateful that foreigners USUALLY have tastes different from ours. This way, we have less competition on the tisays. :) I personally prefer the really hot tisays lounging on the popular upscale bars in Makati and Libis, but they're usually 'not for sale' and has to be courted even just a little bit.
I have friends who are foreigners (both Asians and Caucasians) and most of them explained their own reasons for choosing dark, exotic looking Filipinas. My own thinking is that it is really just a matter of looks versus performance. I think it is logical to believe that in the Philippines, meztisas are the preferred 'beauty choice', and they're looked upon with a certain kind of adoration, not to mention lust :) Therefore, it is also logical to think that these mestizas are the ones less likely (but possible, and it happens) to perform any acts of depravation and/or perversion, compared to their Ermita/Burgos/Angeles City counterparts.
I have never liked these Ermita types and have in fact turned down a lot of free offers. However, let me stress that I definitely respect the tastes of my foreign friends. One thing these Ermita types have going for them is better service not just in the realm of sex, but in entertaining guests in general (especially those Japayuki returnees).
Like I said, I welcome the decrased competition. And as the saying goes "To Each His Own". :) Cheers and Happy Hunting!!!
Yep I'm all for the fact that the foreign types desire the descendants of the aetas, they account for a big percentage of the population and economy after all.
I think it's all part of God's plan to beautify the world, I came upon this theory while working in the American Midwest states of Ohio, Nebraska and Wyoming for around 4 months. During this time period I saw about a dozen mixed couples where the wives look like chimays and the husbands look the way they look ...and wouldn't you know it their kids looked adorable, downright good looking.
There might be something deeper to what we're witnessing now...*x files theme plays*
hehe
Hi! I'm a spanish man who wants to travel to the Orient soon..but I have some questions about it.
What is the best country to find good pussies. Philippines or Thailand?
Are the thai girls better than ph girls?
Are Ph girls more cheap?
Are Ph girls good lovers or you prefer thai girls?
Its Philippines cheapest than thailand?
I dont know what country to choose
Please help me
[QUOTE]Originally posted by roelix
[i]Hi! I'm a spanish man who wants to travel to the Orient soon..but I have some questions about it.
What is the best country to find good pussies. Philippines or Thailand?
Are the thai girls better than ph girls?
Are Ph girls more cheap?
Are Ph girls good lovers or you prefer thai girls?
Its Philippines cheapest than thailand?
I dont know what country to choose
Please help me [/i][/QUOTE]
Each girl is differeent and YMMV anyway ... pero hay adobada en las Filipinas!
Hi friends,,
I am not fully sure of the expressions "chinita and tisay", but kind of understand that they are kind of "pale" compared to those guides you meet at El Nido and similar places, that are canooing with you, swim and have a good time with you. From myh RP-friends I have understood that they are "pessants" (farmers), since they have this nice tan that you seldom see on pinays working in Manila.
Me - having met a few during my work - I must say that I would prefere the spanish looking ladies, such as the moviestar ??? Cuneta/Luneta (forgot her name now - sorry). It is some time ago since I saw her pics first, so I guess that she has become older/fatter... :))) compared to the first pics shown of her.
For sure - also the mestiza-girls makes you hot - Me - I usually stay at the Manila Hotel, and they have a few staff there that is just adorable. However - they know it, and are very hard to get aquainted with - or to ask out for a dinner :))))).. I fail all the time. :(((
Can I ask a Q: this GROpapa - is he for real? He is repeating his "commercial" for JayR. To me - this sounds kind of strange... Not my intention to offend anyone, so if any of your guys have a positive experience to share after seeing JayR, please share.
Marconista,
yeah i'm the real deal, hobbyist Xtreme :) If you're curious about Jay R give him a call or txt him - please only do so if you're seriously in the market for a girl in Makati or Metro Manila.
I've actually asked on another post for anyone who has used his services to post on here, Jay R told me he got about a dozen clients from this board just in the month of October so I'm curious on how good his girls are at the moment since I"m going down to Manila last week of November.
By the way I'm heading down to Bicol for a couple of days last week of Nov, anyone know what kind of action Legaspi and Tabaco city has to offer?
marconista,
the term "chinita" means chinese looking, you know, the slant eyed look.
the term "tisay" is a slang for "mestiza", which means a mixed blooded girl, usually referring to a filipino-spanish or caucasian mix.
these two types of ladies are also fairer or lighter skinned than the normal girl, hence their added attraction.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by roelix
[i]Hi! I'm a spanish man who wants to travel to the Orient soon..but I have some questions about it.
What is the best country to find good pussies. Philippines or Thailand?
Are the thai girls better than ph girls?
Are Ph girls more cheap?
Are Ph girls good lovers or you prefer thai girls?
Its Philippines cheapest than thailand?
I dont know what country to choose
Please help me [/i][/QUOTE]
Roelix: basically, Filipinos speak English and can also speak or understand Spanish, so you can probably strike up a conversation with people you meet. Being able to communicate is one very important aspect of choosing a destination (at least for me, it is!). There are several areas in the islands where their dialects are adaptations of the Spanish language.
Mabuhay,
I am a 51 y.o. American from Hawaii. I will be coming to The PI on January 5, 2003, planning to spend time in Manila, Cebu and anywhere else that anyone recommends as having a vibrant nightlife. I'm not a fan of Angeles, having been there numerous times. Any recommendations outside the Manila-Angeles-Puerto Galera-Cebu loop? I used to come to the PI regularly during the heyday of M.H. Del Pilar in the late 80's and early 90's but have been going to Thailand these past few years. I'm searching for some lady who speaks passable-to-decent English as well as knowing her way around the bedsheets. I would be interested in meeting anyone who will be in the PI during the next couple of weeks and chatting over a beer or two. Please email: bigmangoman@yahoo.com
Good decriptions of the different kinds of Philippinas....
I have a question (which has been asked before by roelix). I have been to Thailand a few times and I know what to expect but Philippines may be a new experience. Can someone say something about the girls in the Philippines - in what way do they look different to Thais ? and attitudes and culture ? What is the scene like compared to Thailand ?
If I just had 3 or 4 days for hobbying, which would be the best place in the Phillipines to get the best quality action ?
I guess the best answers would be from those who has been to both but I would appreciate comments from all quarters !
Thanks.
Cheers.
Hi gents,,,
I am off to Manila and more tomorrow...
I have followed the advice of fellow hobbyists, and have lined up 5 dates to meet when there.
I have also become a member of the www.manilatonight.com, and have been invited to parties together with members also.
First - I will go to Batangas for some diving at a resort at Anilao with a "friend", then head back to Manila for a few days, then off to another resort, then back to Manila for the weekend to meet those I established contact with through MSMessenger and YahooMessenger... If only I would have more days to stay - he he,,,
Will report back if any positive FR's.
To protect the innocents, I cannot at this stage reveal names/email-addresses of those I'll meet. But two of them are hot.
jackdaniels,
regarding looks ... PI girls have similar physique & size as thai girls, skin color similar brownish type, petite, breasts are b-cup normally. Many filipinas have the spanish look and filipinos have the spanish temperament, hot & passionate, while thais are a bit cool on the passion side.
The biggest plus in PI is that most people can speak english, which is great for you to carry on conversations with them. The filipinas also have a tendency to fallin & out of love quick with caucasians, and think you're "handsome".
Thailand has more working women, in terms of sheer numbers, but how many can you really handle? The Metro Manila area is the best place to go womanizing in the PI. Costs are comparable to Bangkok for similar fun (when calculated in US$).
For those needing a trusted and reliable guide in Manila aka City of Man please contact my guide Jay R, feel free to browse the various field reports in this board of past clients.
0917 414 5416
I'm also in town, perhaps I'll go along for the ride. Don't worry I bring my own budget :)
Does anyone have any information on the scene on Mondoro Island? I am going diving there in a few months (Sept-Oct) and looking for some information on the nightlife.
bhall,,
I guess you mean Mindoro Island.
If you do a search for Puerto Gallera on this board you will find a lot of information... However, some of the contributors in this forum will suggest that you bring the entertainment (girl) yourself, to make sure you will have a real good time.. But I do know that there are ladies there ready to entertain the scubadivers.
I have only been to one resort on Mindoro, the Coco Beach. That is kind of a private place, owned by a danish-italian guy, nice place, nice food, good service, but no entertainment other than the staff singing for you in the evenings... :(.
I was in Sabang (PG) about a week ago. I can confirm that there were lots of lovely ladies available. Sabang Disco seemed to have the highest concentration of pretty girls. Some of them looked a little too young, however. I didn't inquire into how much (had my honeyko with me). Big Apple has a few freelancers but I was not impressed with any other them.
...(prog)
There's someone who I won't name who owes this forum a "trip report", who in fact is a really nice guy who's since probably just gotten way too tied up with life or whatever.
It's about a year ago now that I noticed him here looking for advice. I offered what I could. He wrote back and eventually did come here in the fall of '02 on my recommendation with the info I passed to him. Alas, for whatever reason I lost touch with him after.
I remember giving enough advice to help him connect with a very nice little innocent virgin who cared for him and looked after him from the moment he showed up a the airport to the moment he left. She was in love. I hope they still are - I don't know.
I remember them coming over to our place when we had the Malate condo and the four of us having dinner twice in our place. I went nuts on the groceries and my wife (then gf) spent all day preparing.
I remember showing him around Malate; places to go, women to do.
I remember sharing quite a few beers and picking up a few tabs.
I remember laughing with him about the way-too-young girl who sat on my lap and said her name was "YumYum" who I sent over to sit on *his* lap, on the way out of LA Cafe as we left to go back to the bar where I had things all set up and ready for him for a time he'd remember.
I remember taking him around to help him find a suitable hotel room in Ermita for some private fun and then making sure that fun happened for him.
I remember introducing him to one of my *real* friends. I remember him telling me that he had a pretty +good+ time on the cheap with her friend when she promptly hooked him up with her. (Not to mention what I heard from my good filipina friend privately after - who incidentally asked me yesterday ---- what ever happened to **** !)
I remember giving what advice I could for him to try to get his filipina gf into his country.
He was kind enough to send me some of the pics he took of us all together, but what I +haven't+ seen is his trip report here, nor have I heard from him.
We met +in+ this forum. He promised he'd share what he learned and experienced here, here. Yet, wala! :(
The point is ... to those who benefit from us worn Tshirts in this Forum, please *do* give something back to the community, ok? Help the next guy, ok? If you remember this, post. If you remember anything like this, courtesy of any other veteran, and suddenly feel guilty ....
Cancontrib,
Even thoughI am not the one you helped, reading your post made me feel good, since I have done the same thing for someone ( a nice guy). Its good to know that I am not the only one who goes Above & Beyond The Call Of Duty.
Cheers to you and more good times.
Hello board
I have been reading this board for a while now, and believe it is one of the most informative, honest and freindliest I have read.
Now a big question, and I do need some help. I'm 56 in good shape, play golf and still love my pussy, which reminds of a joke:
What is the difference between **** and pussy? A pussy is a soft, warm, furry little thing, and a **** is the ***** that ownes it!
Okay, back to biz: I am addicted to lorazapam. and I need to get off the shit. The doc says the best thing is to get away from my normal stressful world of x wifes, kids, and my business. It takes 2-3 months to really clean up off this super addictive drug. going to Betty Ford or a clinic is cost prohibitive. I am very familiar with Thailand, but do not like the droves of tourists and the seedy scene like in Pattaya, nor the fact that you cannot have a conversation with most girls. I think what I am looking for is a place to rent a bungalow on a beach that is quiet and very safe, with amenities close by eg. good food, internet, some entertainment.
I'm thinking from my research (Puerto Gallera area) now the biggy, a pretty little nurse :) someone who can hold and administer my drug, and slowly lower the doseage until I'm clean. If I have control, I can't do it. Yes, it is that addictive, so if I have a pretty little nurse to watch over me for 2-3 months, then maybe she can double duty. So, what I need is a pretty spinner in her twenties or early thirties who is honest and needs a job for a few months. Obviously I will pay all her expenses and treat her very well. I'm not Cheap Charlie. I will pay her well and give a large bonus incentive tip in the end if she is successful.
I like to golf, swim, snorkel, I believe all of this can be found near Puerto Gallera?
Thank you in advance,
Redcork
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As a new member to this board , and learning how it works. I would at this time like to thank Jackson for all his work. I ignorantly flamed WSG not knowing how it works. It has been a source of valuable info for me as I travel. I have only just begun posting.
Thank you all for your postings also.
Regards
Redcork.
ps. Also , if you are a veteren traveller to the Phillipines , i would appreciate a comment to my other post.
Thanks again , and happy safe travelling and pussy hunting .
Hello board , it has been along time since anyone has made any postings here or in the phillipines section. Why? Is it because no one is in the phillipines anymore ? or This board is no longer being used by fellow pooners ? This section should have postings everyday. Is it because it is slow? Lets be honest without offending please. Anyways i see this board slowly dying and i don't think it should go that way , so let's support it and post your experiences and info please.
Redcork,
you may not know this, but, the site was down for almost 10 days. You may notice that there are NO postings from 04Sept to 13 Sept.
As for your other posts, I can't comment on addiction or nurses. Sure you can find any filipina to hang out with you as long as you want. But the odds of finding a bona fide nurse to do that are not that good.
If I can make a suggestion: Go to BKK, and take a trip to Cha-Am or Hua Hin. The best golf in Asia is there, and you can relax on the beach and snorkel. I love the PI, and am fluent in Tagalog. But the resorts PI have gone to hell (in my opinion), and the resorts in Thiland are better.
good luck
Lalake
I'm not sure whether or not this is the appropriate section for this question, but being new here I'll just go for broke.
I'm at a place in my life where I will be forced to change careers at 53 years of age. I will re-entering college for additional schooling for whatever career I select soon. My question is this: Being very fond of the Philippines through only one trip in the early 70's, and reading many of the posts on here, I am determined to enter into whatever career will afford me opportunities to visit the Philippines every so often. I have been in sales/marketing for the past 28 years, in the midwestern U.S.
Can anybody tell me what businesses or career opportunites would be most likely to afford opportunites to travel to the Philippines based on which companies/industries customarily do business with that country? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated, as I will be determining my career objective in the very near future.
I don't have too much to add, just that maybe you should use your 28 yrs of experience to get a job with TGIFridays, or Dunkin Donuts, Starbucks, or any big U.S. firm that does business in the PI and need a sales or marketing manager.
Try Global Gateway's International section for jobs. Do a search on it.
The only other thing I can think of is hotel management, or something like that, or do marketing or sales for a big hotel corp.
Cell phones are big there....apply to Nokia.
If your're in the US now, look for a Fil-Am (Filipino-American) Chamber of Commerce or something.
cheers, Lalake
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If it helps feed needy children, I'm all for it! Prostitution is a whole different issue. The girls are of age and can make their own moral choices. No one here is advocating forced prostitution. If they want to play, then we come and pay. This has nothing to do with another form of charity that helps feed innocent starving children!
I think using a forum such as this to help promote donations is a fine idea. The reason is simple. Many of us mongers have traveled to these places and have seen first hand some of the despair these children face, so we are more likely to give. Nothing wrong with that. As for paying for sex, if an adult women, so chooses to sell her body, then it's her CHOICE, on the other hand a starving child, has no choice!
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I'm planning to come back in the Philippines for the second time, after 4 years (01-2000) - I'm looking any information about prices and nightlife in Puerto Galera (Sabang) and Boracay.
I remember 3 go-go bar in Sabang. Are them still open? Boracay was already expensive 4 y ago, but I remember some nice discos on the beach and the Charlie's Bar for a beautiful Sunset.
Thanks for any info.
Hi guys,
I'm planning a trip to the phillipines soon but a lot of my friends tell me that it is extremely unsafe. Is this so? My Fillipino pals tell me that parts of the country is like the wild west. And there are a lot of kidnappings.
I've never been there but would like to go as I think the women there are amongst the prettiest in the world.
Plugger....
Read the report by Cancontrib in "Filipinas - opinions and advice"
it says it all.
The Flying Scotsman
I'm married to a Filipina.
I was there twice the last 2 years for 10 weeks.
Never meet any kind off trouble.
Only the Mindanau region can be dangerous.
I was in Manilla 4 weeks, no problems.
Cebu also
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Planning a trip in early March. Haven't been in about 10 years. Anyone have suggestions as to where to find the best airfare from the Westcoast to Manila? Got enough FF miles to get to a major westcoast airport.
sprokit69,
You did not say what city in the US you're from? If you're in the midwest you can call 411 for GLOBALINK TRAVEL in DARIEN, ILLINOIS. They have the reduced fares airlines can't sell you.
OTOH, you can try www.evaair.com to book thru EVA Airlines from SFO/LAX to MNL via TPE(Taipei). Then book your own FF miles yourself.
Sprokit69,
Fares from San Fran or L.A. to MNL are about the same, so whichever you can get to more cheaply.
A couple of the "old salts" here have had good luck with Orbitz and Travelocity. Another friend swears by the aforementioned Eva Air. I have had very good luck with a full service travel agent who specializes in the Philippines: Amor Travel (213) 386-6156.
Good Luck
FD
www. angel travel . com
My 2 cents.
Guys,
Something of interest ? Too expensive for me but may be of interest to some. Have a look at her website. The pics alone are worth a look..!!
http://www.face-pic.com/honey18f
The Flying Scotsman
Thanks for all the replies for ticket prices. My plans are on hold pending a situation at work that needs to be finalized, but I should be headed down there sometime in March, hopefully earlier rather than later.
If anyone runs across a good fare pls post.
Thanks again
"honey18f" website is a major waste of time.
What a stuck up *****.
Sorry if this is not allowed in this board but I anyone is planning to leave for Manila this month. I have a Asiana Ticket that I need to dispose of. If anyone is interested and want to get some info about it please PM. It's a good deal!
To anyone who cares to respond:
I have a real fondness for Filipinas here in the states; to me they are the most beautiful and the sexiest women in the world. But my mongering has been limited to Thailand, and mostly Pattaya. I found Pattaya to be great; the girls and the prices.
Tell me, please, how does the Philippines compare to Pattaya in terms of prices and overall experience with the girls? And what parts of the Philippines offer the best experience for the money.
Thanks,
LJohnson
lJohnson,
The prices in the PI are so low, just like Thailand, that its not worth worrying about.
Re the girls: they are beautiful and friendly, and most speak good english. The problem is the infrastructure, which is horrendous in the PI. I wrote several reports in August '03 wherein I tried to go beyond the dollar/cent and anecdotal format. I hope they give you a feel for the place.
I would recommend going to a beach area that way you will have something to do daytime, but everyone has to experience Manila at least once.
Don
As of today, Feb. 21, the Dollar to Philippine Peso rate is $1=56.35 Php. The higher US dollar value generally has a strong influenced on your spending power. However a lot of high end places to stay in the Philippines will quote you in U.S. dollar so I am not sure if this is relevant. As far as how much the girls will charge if the dollar is up, I have no idea. It is likely that they will adjust prices when the Philippine peso is devalued. I have no first hand experience.
The Peso to Dollar exchange rate maybe P56.35 = $1.00 but actual exchange in the many Dollar changers varies. As of yesterday, my $100.00 = P 5,790 but it could be a couple of hundred of pesos under or over what I got.
As for prices, I did not see any changes last night while scoping the Malate area. I was still able to negotiate a P1,000 LT with a 20 y.o. student last night. As for her tip, well, I'll let her sleep for a moment and let her earn it when she wakes up. Its a weekend anyway. ;)
I am looking for your advice about the Phillipines. I am currently planning a long trip to SE Asia. I am defintely going to Thailand, but have always been curious about the Phillipines. I like the fact that English is widely spoken and the girls seem passionate. the airfare from Singapore and Hong Kong is rather expensive, so I just want to make sure I will find what I am looking for before heading out that way.
I am not sure I am up for a lot of time in Manila though and am wondering if there are any places in the Phillipines like Phuket where there is at least some nightlife and a beach with bungalows and some activites? What about safety?
Anywhere else in SE Asia recommended? Indonesia?
thanks for your help...will report back...
LJonson,
Must be new to the Philippine Section. Read the Makati, Cebu & Davao Posts for the information you need.
I have been going to Pattaya Thailand for 16 years now. I enjoy it but find it more expensive than the Philippines. Not much chance of hooking up with a regular girl there unless you speak good Thai or have the "balls of Godzilla" to go up and try chatting them in English. I often fly into Thailand, get a taxi direct to Pattaya and then go to the Philippines.
I prefer the Philipines. Women are much more genuine and less likely to hit you up for large sums of money when they become your woman. My Daughter's Mom, former beauty contest winner, never asked me for anything for years. Not until she became pregnant with my little girl (of course, since the baby was born she has been making up for all those yrs of not asking for $$$)
I have met more than a dozen ladies in the Philippines over the last 13 yrs that I would probably be happy settling down with here. Problem is just that. I met too many ladies I would be happy with here.
Parts of the Philippines offering best price/$$$ is easy. Two words: DAVAO and DUMAGUETE. You will need an extra cock is the only problem. The one gets worn out pretty fast. Read the posts for both areas.
Have Fun.
Dragon Slayer
FKK Krazy,
Okay you are new here. So I will repeat again. Read the Posts. Go to the "Other Areas" section and read my Post of about 6 weeks ago on Dumaguete. This is exactly what you are seeking. Fly from Manila direct and hit the Boulevard. Hotel I stay at is out of town quite a bit in a secluded section but has a lovely pool and is next to the beach.
Several nice Hotels right on the Boulevard. I checked with a travel agency in one and got quoted $ 258 US R/T to Hong Kong from Manila plus 2 nts hotel. This is awesome as a couple weeks ago on a last minute purchase I paid $ 195 1 way on Cathay Pacific from Manila to Hong Kong.
Tons of young women in Dumaguete. If you do not fuck yourself silly, it is your fault. After Davao, this is my favorite place in the Phils. Davao also has what you are seeking and Posts there tell you all about it.
You can fly direct to Davao, hook up with me and GoodEnough and "live it up". Then, fly to Cebu and head directly to Pier 4. Take the daily Supercat boat to Dumaguete. Lets you off just before the Boulevard with plenty of fine Hotels. If you travel in late April and are more or less a "good guy" you can accompany me on trips to both places. GoodEnough will most likely be along to keep the "Team" intact. We do very little sightseeing though. Cuts into our time drinking fine Wines, Premium Champagne and fucking gorgeous, young filipinas.
Good luck.
D.S.
I'm an experienced Filipina hunter and will be arriving again in the country Sat. March 6 (Manilla, later to Angeles)
Anybody interested to join me on a tour around the hotspots?
Sorry for cross posting, but I'm not sure where this one fits:
While on vacation, I want to take a few days to a week to visit Vietnam and possibly the PI. Since I would be starting out from Thailand, are there any special visa requirements coming or going?
I am assuming that you are asking about visa requirements if one is planning to visit the Philippines. As far as I know, if you are a U.S. citizen, no visa is required, if you stay 30 days or less. But you need to show that you have a rountrip ticket to your home country. Same thing applies if you are a citizen of a country that is a member of ASEAN. (Association of Southeast Asian Nations). I would recommend to either check on the website of the Philippine's Department of Foreign Affairs or go to the Philippine consulate or embassy nearest you.
Actually, I'm more concerned with getting back into Thailand from the PI. I'm going for an extended stay in LOS and want to take a sub-vacation to the PI (almost certain now after reading the reports here). I'm worried about how my visa will work.
You did bring up something I hadn't thought of: my return ticket will be back to Thailand, not my home country. Will that be a problem?
For 14 years I have been flying from Thailand to Manila and back. I just recently altered my route to go Bangkok - Manila - Hong Kong. At Bangkok Airport they check for your ticket back to Thailand or from Manila to your next City and then home
Have a R/T ticket to Thailand before going to te Airport.
D.S.
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Jackson, I hope you don't mind me posting this same msg on a few boards.
Where can I rent a GSM phone? Is there a shop in the Manila airport? If so, where is it exactly and how late is it open. I only ask the time because I'm arriving late (11:30 p.m.). I understand that SIM cards are plentiful and cheap, but you need a GSM phone which I don't have. Thanks for any information.
Ball 44
Ball 44
[i]"Where can I rent a GSM phone? Is there a shop in the Manila airport? If so, where is it exactly and how late is it open. I only ask the time because I'm arriving late (11:30 p.m.). I understand that SIM cards are plentiful and cheap, but you need a GSM phone which I don't have. Thanks for any information"[/i]
Ball44
I am not sure if there is anywhere to rent telephone in the airport as I personally, couldn't find anywhere to buy or notice any places renting cell phones, but here is an extract taken from my last post:
The mobile telephone revolution has hit the Philippines and you must have a cell phone and the two companies to choose from are Globe and Smart, I choose Smart simply because this was the easiest to find when my taxi driver stopped of at a local petrol station, open 24 hours, and the cashier was helpful enough to change and load the sim card and top up the phone, as easy as that, available in minutes. [url]smart.com.ph[/url]
Sim card services are relatively cheap at about 500 Pesos (U$9) anyway and good value so providing you have a GSM compatible phone (some Nokias and Sony Ericssons are already compatible) then you can be operational in minutes.
Juniour
Quote taken from Mikster’s post of: 3-23-04
[i]“I get a hoot listening to this Juniour character lecturing me on morality, exploitation, how to treat women, etc etc., as he just finished P4P in the Philippines for several days, unbelievable.
Juniour, my son, I didn’t go to AC to look for a regular girl. I went to bang my cock off and mission was accomplished. I ask around about regular girls and was told it was not a good idea in that neck of the woods and I believe that to be true. Just because a few girls went out with you doesn’t mean anything son. The websites are full of AC girls looking for men, most of them pros and semi-pros. But, you can do what you want, I don’t care”.[/i]
[i](PS, I have corrected the few grammatical errors in Mikster’s post to make it easier to read)[/i]
My views on women: What I find strange is that someone can actually think that I cannot not respect women that I have been banging? (your words not mine) Its weird that some of you think that its incompatible to respect someone who sleep with people for money, why? Why do you have such a low opinion of women anyway?
A strange thing to say really, so just because someone has been sucking your dick doesn’t make them any less a human being than you and I? I cannot see what is wrong with respecting someone you are sleeping with? Would someone like to explain me?
Fortunately, because of the way I was brought up I was always taught to respect ALL people, this is not a religious thing but if you want respect you should also give it, just because someone is sweeping the streets for a living, a mortician or a hooker doesn’t make them any less a human being and everyone wants to be respected.
Maybe this is one reason why I have no problems with GFE because without boasting here, about 80% of the girls I have met have always wanted to meet up with me again socially and I have met girls from Brazil, in [i]Centaurus[/i] in Rio, girls from Latvia, Czech Republic, Thailand and believe me the Philippines has to be the easiest place on earth to have GFE; Brazil is second in my books.
When I talk to girl, [i] (now please take notes here)[/i] I have one secret weapon that never fails… and what is that you are asking? [b]First, I talk with them...... not too them. Second, I never talk about myself...... I always ask about the girls[/b] and [b]third,[/b] most important thing I do is[b] I always listen carefully to what they have to say?[/b] I want to know about their family, where they are from, etc.
Do you know how many bars I have been in and seen some arsehole who somehow is always talking loudly, saying he is some big shot or high flyer earning hundreds of thousand dollars a year and very rich [i]blah, blah, blah.[/i] Please guy come on, get real this is so sad and pathetic really; just imagine how many guys must come out with that bullshit every day and every night and these girls automatically switch off. The other thing I never do is make any promises to these girls, I never do this, especially these guys that play on bullshit that somehow by telling this girl that they will take care of them, take them back to their country, like this girl is going to suck their dick harder and longer is pure fantasy. I may give my word but always stick to it.
Naturally, I am a man I want to fuck most girls I meet, (don't we all?) but hey if you can get it for free, then even better, why not. In Germany I can recall meeting this stunningly beautiful Lithuanian girl and during our conversation, when I was trying to arrange to meet up with her later she asked me why I wanted her number and where I would take her, and I replied to McDonalds and I might buy her a cheeseburger…if she was lucky. And the following day she turned up at my place, but not for a meal in McDonalds, I am not that mean.
So Mikster [i]my son,[/i] when I say to you that if you changed your attitude to women you might find it easier to have GFE in Angeles City, Manila or Cebu, I mean it because I do not know another city on earth, that I have been too yet that is soooo easy to find GFE, and I stand to be corrected on this.
Next time I am in AC I will make a point of checking out the Ponderosa Hotel next time and ask about Mike from USA who had the ladies parked outside the entrance at all times waiting for him, no doubt all local beauty queens – [i]"whooa careful stud, you are the man".[/i]
[i]There is no charge for this lesson for today but if you take my advice and are successful I suggest you donate say $25 dollars to this web site and help out Jackson who is doing a wonderful job here for all us mongers.[/i]
Juniour
[i]Hey guys so there are no hard feelings one small peace offering a photo for you, taken in Bangkok on my recent trip[/i]
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Gents,
I was hoping that this flaming was about to stop soon, but no. It seem to me that none of you guys will grow up, ie being the one to stop replying to the others comment.
You guys are just ruining this forum by your nonsense; and JUNIOUR - that was not a nice gesture, posting that last picture.
If you guys dont stop now, we will make Jackson aware that most guys in this forum are getting tired of the shit you throw at each other, him perhaps banning you from the forum.
SO, SHUT THE F**K UP, and get back to posting FR.
peace
[blue]Gentlemen,
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.
Let's get back to the subject.
Thank You,
Jackson[/blue]
Guys,
Agreed, let’s get back to posting, useful information, something I have wanted to do all along.
For the record, I posted a report and was attacked for what reason I do not know? Then others who posted were attacked and we defended ourselves, which is how we arrived at this impasse.
[i]And I thought the Thai post was suppose to be the difficult threat.[/i]
Juniour
Guys,
Where chicks can be found in Baguio City?
Guys;
* I'm thinking about a holiday in PI, never been there before and don't know where to go. Been reading these boards, but am getting mixed messages!
* Want to pick up hot girls, don't mind paying extra for quality.
* Like to drink, but don't want to get rolled, so security and peace of mind is important.
* Willing to travel to any city/town if the trip is worthwhile.
* Don't care about sports or other day-time activities.
Any ideas out there?
All the best, and good hunting!
Jackson,
Thank you for your intervention. I have followed the same flaming across 3 boards now and enough is enough. Thanks from a member.
Rio.
Ball 44,
"Where can I rent a GSM phone? Is there a shop in the Manila airport? If so, where is it exactly and how late is it open. I only ask the time because I'm arriving late (11:30 p.m.). I understand that SIM cards are plentiful and cheap, but you need a GSM phone which I don't have. Thanks for any information."
You are better off either bringing an unlocked Triband GSM phone with you, or just pick up a used phone the next day. There are phone shops all over and you can probably get a good nokia for a few thousand pesos.
I have seen rentals (Online) and it would be cheaper just to buy one. if you don't need it when you leave it will make a great tip for someone!
Vent,
For mongering and absolutely nothing else, Angeles would be your best bet. IMHO.
FD
The chip is around 270 pesos with some airtime. Yes, you can buy a used phone for 100 USD, which is decent.
Go to the malls, there are many there.
I think getting a cell phone depends on how long you want to be there. It is consider a toy there in the Philippines, and a necessity item to have to run around in the Philippines. You cannot use a pay phone, or a regular phone to call a cell phone. Believe me, I try, that is why I have a tri-band phone that I use when I am in all of Asia. I really need it, but I don't like the Pussies calling me all the time I have a girlfriend, and it ain't too cool have all the ladies call you, when she is around, lol!
What a Wonderful sight this is. It has been so informative. My wife and I are heading to the Philippines in the early part of May, It will be my first time. My wife being a native of the Philippines is somewhat leary of letting me roam freely over there, and I must say after finding and reviewing some of the posting's in here I can see why, the way in which you guys describe it. My God, it sounds like the true defination of Paradise. She will be visiting her family over there, I met her about ten years ago over here in the States, and although I truly do Love this woman with all of my Heart. Umm, the idea of not at least having a little fun over there seems almost criminal to me. I mean life is short, right? And taking into account that this is my first vacation in years. I can see no harm in it. I suppose my question would be along these lines. Umm, I am sure that a lot of you too, are also married, and so, How do you manage it? I had come to the conclusion that I will probably have to rent two hotel rooms. The one that She and I can meet up in, and the one to 'party' in, as for the Girls That I meet. I think it would be best just to be honest regarding my marital status, I have managed to meet a few woman on here in the chat rooms, and have been totally honest in this regard, and so far umm. It seems not to be a problem and they have still been very open to meeting me. My buddies at work keep giving me a hard time about my trip as they are like 'Ohhhh Dudde, why are you bringing sand to the beach?' Don't bring your wife to P.I.! But since this trip is essentially for her. I really have no choice in the matter. Well guys, thanks for all the info and when I get back I will be sure to share my experiances.
Peace,
Camelot
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Camelot,
Most of us here in this site are not married. I do have my Woman and Daughter in Leyte at my home here. My Firm and my personal residence are both here in USA.
For my info check Cebu and Davao where the "Davao Team" Rules. My trip in 3 days will be Trip # 76 to S.E. Asia from USA and Trip # 62 to the Philippines. I speak 4 languages and some Vasayan, language of Leyte where my Family lives.
No one here EVER listens to my advice but you may be the 1 exception. So here goes:
1) DO NOT get a 2nd room at the Hotel unless you want to be divorced. Get a room at a second Hotel or go to one of the Clubs mentioned in my Posts where you can get a VIP Room for 1- 4 hours.
2) I alwyas travel for at least a week with my Family. I insist on "discretion" by the Hotel Staff. in the Philippines this is almost impossible to get, but I stay at the same Hotels, bring gifts oF fine American whiskey for the Hotel Manager, Asst Mgr and Chocolates for the ladies at reception. No women are EVER told I am at the Hotel when my Woman and Daughter are with me. I tip the Bartenders and others also, very handsomely, I might add.
3) Arrange for "free time" on your own when your wife goes to visit her Family. To be honest, you will probably find it unbelievably boring hanging with her Family. There must be something you enjoy doing that requires a couple days on your own away from her "Group". Scuba diving near Dumaguete City, shopping in Cebu City, meeting old friends in Davao (PM us ), etc.
4) No One in her Family can be trusted to be discreet no matter how much you pay them. On leyte, I do not even look at another Woman, and there are 1,000's of beautiul ladies there. Read Posts in "other Areas', Davao, Cebu and Manila for ideas. Go back to Jan 1, 2004 at least.
Good Luck
Dragon Slayer
Yes, it is true that they don't care if you are married, or not. Of course, it depends on the girls. If you are meet the one to have a good time, then they don't care. Some are hoping that you will leave your wife, and some are just hoping that they can be you mistress, so that you can support them. They are willing to have a baby with you, so that you can send them so money.
The bottom line is that they are looking for a better life, or a steady income stream to support them, or their families.
I talked to some Filipinos, and they told me that if a Filipino, make it to the states, that their lives will improve 10X. This is lower, or middle class. The Rich don't need this, and won't go for this.
P.S. If you are going to get a room, there are many short time hotel, like Sogo, and couples of other one. The girls will tell you. The cost is around 500 pesos a room for ST. There is a sign with a woman whispering. I don't remember the name. They are all over Malate/Pasay area.
Victoria court http://www.victoriacourt.biz/main.htm
is the "whispering lady" short time hotel.
FD
firedick,spidey and dragon slayer,
thank you for the follow-up to my posting.we have just 15 more days to go before we head off to p.i , will be flying out of s.f on philippine airlines. the name of the hotel that you two suggested is aptly named, taking into account my situation, it's a name that is easy enough to remember.
and dragon slayer, that is pretty impressive, you speak four languages? my wife is like that, she is fluent in four also, could not help but to ponder for a moment the thought of the two of you together, imagine the fights that you two could have, expletives times four, pretty scary!!
as for your advice about 'time with her family', 'seperate hotel' and 'alone time', it was all well received, although i have met some of her family from p.i here in the states and have grown to love them, i think you were right when you said that i would more than likely be 'bored' at her reunion with them. that sounds harsh, but the reality is that they do have lots to catch up on timewise,as it has been more than ten years since they have any personal contact with one another. well being that i am not exactly sure as to the protocal in here, i guess i shall cut this short for now. i was worried that maybe 'thank you' letters are frowned upon for taking up to much room.
and jackson, thanks for the speedy entry into the forum. this has been some of the best reading that i have done on the internet. i love this sight.
Does anyone have opinions on filipinaheart.com?
Call me cynical but I am not convinced that all those profiles are 100% genuine. I have been on websites such as sentimente.ro and 90% (if not higher) reply to instant messaging. On this website, the ration is around 1:10 or perhaps even worse. When some do reply, it is almost script-like on how they answer to be almost reminiscent of a scene in a film (can’t remember but think it was in Las Vegas) where a adult chat lines are answered by OAP’s knitting while talking dirty.
Compared with the Romanian website, filipinaheart.com isn’t cheap to join and I wondered if it’s not some elaborate scam.
Next week, Roswell. Why did no-one even keep one piece of that downed spacecraft?
My friend like to stay at the Executive on Mabini st./ Pedro Gil. I think it is around 1,500 pesos.
He like it there, b/c he can go to LA Cafe for a drink, or pick up some kiki.
Yes, they are genuine, for now. After they get you in their grasp, then they will grow horns within 2 years in your country.
You must realize that all the profiles are almost the same. Either, they know each others, or they are just not very creative people. I think the word is "Simple."
I did meet some girls from Asianeuro, who own Filipinahearts. It is easy, and they don't really get the opportunity to meet who they are talking to. I use to go to the Philippines 2-3 times a year, so no problem, if I want to meet them. Of course, they will bring their friend, so you have to be prepare to pay double, or triple, if you don't understand this.
Ignore my post below, suddenly the IC has gone into overdrive and I am getting replies. Must have been a problem with their server because everyone now seems very genuine.
Anyone with information about employment anywhere in Asia would be helpful. High level sales.
Thanks
Does anyone know of any good yahoo groups of the Philippines? I started one (sendmetothephilippines) but it just hasnt gotten off the ground. Any advise will be appreciated.
The Filthy One
I'll be in Thailand for 3 weeks starting in Late May.
Is it worth it to travel from Thailand to Angeles City for a few days? If so, how many days before returning to Thailand? I hear it's a ways from the Manila airport.
Any suggestions on how to get to Angeles City from Bangkok or some other Thai international airport?
Spidey - or anyone else who may know
I have a retired Motorola nexus phone that uses a Sim card. Do you know if this would be compatible with the cell phone cards in PI? Are all SIM type cell phones compatible with all cards? I can probably haul it along just in case.
I will post this in a couple other forums so please forgive me if you get tired of seeing it.
J Boy,
If it uses a SIM card, then it would be compatible with the SIM cards for sale in the Philippines.
But you have to check whether your phone is the same bandwidth. Most, if not all (GSM or PCS), U.S. phones are locked to the 1900 Mhz frequency. The Philippines uses the 900 or 1800 Mhz. If that Motorola is a "tri-band" phone (meaning using all three abovecaptioned freqs), then it can be used here.
If not, you can just buy a "used" local phone with SIM card for less than 2K php. Just ask around, I am sure you will get to find one.
Good luck.
Hi guys,
For those of you that send money back to the PI for your lady, have you found a convienient way to do it.
I was thinking paypal but it doesn't work in the PI. I was thinking of a bank account such as at Equitable PCI and wiring the money in but that sounds expensive, as it's gonna only be $100 or so a month.
What have you guys done?
Mook
Mookman,
Look for a PNB (Philippine Natl. Bank) remitance center. (there is another company also, but I will have to look up their name and PM you with it later). You can send money bank to bank, the person receiving the money must have an account with that bank. The cost is $8.00 per trasnaction. It goes by the transaction not the dollar amount such as Western Union. If you really get serious and want to send I think its $3,000.00 to $4,000.00 they will wave the $8.00 fee. So if you have that much send me some also.
This is the cheapest way I have ever found & they get the money the next banking day. Hope this helps Mook, I will PM you with the other company later today.
Have fun.
MookMan,
You can try http://paydirect.yahoo.com. Just follow the steps there and you can send money several ways. One way I find interesting is you can send someone an ATM card and yu just transfer money to the card. The cost to send 100.00 is only 7.45 USD.
The Filthy One
If this is a special woman and you want to do it on a regular basis. Try this, open up a checking account here. Make sure it's a stand alone account not connected to any of your other accounts. Then ask for and get a atm/debit card. Send her the card via fed ex, ups or any of the other couriers out there.
This makes it easy for you to send her money, deposit it in the account and tell her when the money would be available. This way all she has to do is go to any atm machine to withdraw the set amount up to the daily limit. You get a statement at the end of the month so you can see how much was set and where it was withdrawn from. The atm cost can't be more the 1.50 to 2.00 usd.
However, I highly recommend you make sure it is a stand alone account. But if you keep it within the same bank you can transfer money into via phone anytine of the day or night.
Thanks for the suggestions,
I think Robert Lee's idea is the easiest. Didn't even dawn on me to do that. I think last time I used my ATM in the PI to withdraw money from my checking it only cost a total of $2 from an Equitable PCI ATM, this bank seems to have all the big ATM networks, like STAR and PLUS.
I already have a Paypal only linked checking account so opening a sending money to the PI account shouldn't be a big deal. There's a lot of banks offering free checking such as Washington Mutual and Union Bank at least in California. Just have to remember to not have overdraft protection on it because you never know with these girls.
As for remittance I will look into PNB and LBC.
Everyone knows obviously to be careful when supporting a girl there cause some of the bad ones probably have many guys sending money and plus they ask for money from everything from "my parents can't give me tution this semester" to "my mother is dying of cancer". How many times I got that email and even letters from the girls I've met is too many to count.
Thanks for the advice guys.
Mook
I try this way with CitiBank, b/c it is worldwide, but when I went to CitiBank, or the ATM to withdraw some money. It was rejected. I called the Citibank in the Philippines, and they told me that they will not accept ATM outside of the Philippines, b/c of too many scams with the ATM cards there.
I don't have the problem in Hong Kong. I, also use BofA. I think maybe some people should look into HKBC, b/c it is all over SE Asia, and the worldwide. Problem is they are expensive in fee.
Spidey.
I don't know why you had problems with that atm. All I can say is that I have used this method for a filipina I was interested in. So I know it works. I know there is the chance of abuse, but their is any method out there. I eventually stop dealing with this filipina( got too greedy). All I had to do was call the bank and cancel the card. End of that problem.
How ever I still stress this should only be with someone you consider special and you have them on an allowance of some type.
Also it gives in an insight into how she can or could manage a credit card. Useful if you plan on marrying her.
Mookman,
If you qualify to join a credit union, you might want to consider that option.
I belong to a credit union in the U. S. , and they charge no fees whatsoever for ATMs anywhere in the world. Sometimes the local banks will have a fee, but I haven't found that to be the case anywhere outside the U. S.
Even if you do not think you qualify, you may just want to call around. The enrollment restrictions are typically quite lenient. Often times you can join for just living in a particular county, or having a relative at a certain company.
Good luck,
Pacific Blue
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Robert,
Which bank are you using? Anyway, I did think of this ideal, and that some day, if I live in SE Asia, this is how I would do it.
How is that for Automation. I love putting my life on auto. Of course, I am still working on it.
I will be visiting Angeles (on a side-trip from Thailand) for the first time from 15th June to 30th June.
Please can anyone recommend a (mid-price) hotel for me to stay during that time.
This is probably a stupid question, but are ALL hotels in AC girl-friendly?
Also, am I right in thinking that June is low-season in AC? and if so, can I expect a discount if staying 2 weeks?
Finally, I would be interested in meeting anyone from the forum who 'just happens to be' in AC during that time to learn the scene/benefits/hazards of life in AC.
Thanks for any help guys.
Filipinas, Malaysians, or Indonesians:
I've asked this question on the Malay and Indo section; I'm curious what's the difference for those who really know:
This question is for those rare people who know all three. I'm asking this question in the Malaysian and Indo sections too. Women from these three countries, in general, look similar. Which do you prefer? I have been to the PI several times and understand Filipinas reasonably well. I worked with a Malaysian woman who looked like she could've been from the PI. She was equally as beautiful but, more "intelligent". I have no experience with Indonesians.
what is the situation like in the phillipines? Is it still to dangerous to go?
I have been mongering in Thailand for some years and have recently taken to using Apcalis (generic Cialis) to enhance the number of shags per night. I will be going to AC for the first time in June.
Can anyone tell me if Viagra and Cialis (in either original or generic form) available over the counter anywhere in AC, or are they strictly prescription drugs in the Philippines?
(A forum search doesn't reveal much info on this)
If they are prescription only, does anyone know Doctor/Pharmacy that distributes in AC?
Finally does anyone know if it is OK to take a (small amount) of Viagra/Cialis through NAIA customs- or is it restricted?
Thanks for any help.
Very dangerous! Don't go!
Solomon:
I have been able to buy both in Manila. I know its available without a prescription there.
I know you are specifically curious about AC, but, since its available in Manila, I assume its easier to get in AC.
cheers
There are several Fields area pharmacies which will offer both Cialis and Viagra in generic forms as well as in originals.
Expect to pay more than what you pay in Thailand, but not that much more pricey.
They are available. Just asked. The only precaution is one will never know the integrity of the product you are buying. Just be extra cautious. My advise is get in from somebody who had access to a reputable doctor.
Solomon,
You could take a small car through customs at NAIA without anyone noticing.
FD
from the new york times:
june 8, 2004
u.s. is pursuing americans who commit sex crimes overseas
by eric lichtblau and james dao
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/08/national/08mole.html?hp=&pagewanted=print&position=
washington, june 7 — one suspect was a convicted **** from
baltimore accused of molesting boys in two asian countries.
another was a doctor from georgia who the russian police said
drugged his young victims in a st. petersburg hotel. a third was
a retired army sergeant from seattle who may have molested up to
50 children.
the three men would once have almost certainly fallen outside
the grasp of united states prosecutors. but with the long arm of
american law growing ever longer, all three could face
significant prison sentences in the united states because of a
measure passed by congress last year that gives federal
officials much more power to prosecute people suspected of
molesting children on foreign soil. officials have already used
their expanded authority to prosecute five american men, four of
whom are awaiting trial. dozens more investigations are under
way from sri lanka to costa rica.
american officials are hoping their investigations will help
break what they believe are shadowy internet networks used by
****s to share photographs of children and travel tips
about countries with thriving child sex industries.
but so far, prosecutions under the new law have focused on
people who traveled on their own.
the initiative dovetails with two priorities for the bush
administration: adopting a more aggressive agenda abroad to
protect american interests at home and attacking what president
bush has called the "special evil" of **** and
exploitation. in the process, federal officials have forged an
alliance with humanitarian groups in exposing havens for
so-called sex tourists.
"we're no longer having to fight alone on this," said joseph
mettimano, child protection policy adviser for a christian-based
group called world vision. "we have a very active and very
engaged government power working with us now."
but that new power is also prompting debate in federal courts
and in public policy circles over how far the united states can
and should go to combat child exploitation abroad.
some critics of the initiative, including defense lawyers and
law professors, question why, at a time of pressing
counterterrorism needs at home, investigators from the
department of homeland security are using scarce resources to go
after molesters abroad. others accuse the bush administration
and congress of overreaching by seeking to create what amounts
to a global police presence. "what we're seeing is the
ever-expanding authority of the federal government in the
criminal justice arena," said mike filipovic, a public defender
in seattle who represents michael l. clark, the former sergeant
picked up in cambodia.
"stopping child abuse is a laudable goal, but it's really
somewhat patronizing to these other countries to say that we
feel that the only way to solve this problem is for us to do it
for you," mr. filipovic said. "the issue here is should our
government be able to prosecute our citizens for acts committed
anywhere in the world?"
some child-advocacy groups estimate that as many as 25 percent
of all sex tourists abroad come from the united states. although
the data is inexact, americans who have sex with children abroad
are thought to number in the thousands, with hard-core
****s, casual tourists and business people taking advantage
of lax enforcement, child advocacy groups and american officials
say.
indeed, some countries in southeast asia and latin america are
now seen as havens for molesters, turning a blind eye or even
tacitly welcoming such tourists to promote their economies,
experts say. against that backdrop, agents for the bureau of
immigration and customs enforcement, within the department of
homeland security, have mounted an aggressive effort with their
new power. investigations number in the dozens, officials said,
with targets in cambodia, the philippines, thailand, sri lanka,
india, russia, mexico, costa rica and elsewhere.
american agents are careful to open investigations only with the
cooperation of host countries, said michael j. garcia, who
oversees immigration and customs enforcement. in cambodia, for
instance, the police have in several cases charged americans
under local ordinances, then held them for extradition in close
coordination with american officials.
and in the washington suburbs, several analysts at the
immigration agency's cybercrimes unit now peruse the internet
and follow tips about sex tourism networks abroad.
the government's expanded legal authority to pursue molesters
abroad comes as part of a 2003 federal law known as the protect
act, a package of child-protection measures best known for the
creation of the amber alert for missing children. a more obscure
provision eliminated an obstacle for prosecutors seeking charges
against americans accused of molesting children abroad.
previously, prosecutors had to prove that a suspect left the
united states "for the purpose" of molesting a child, a standard
that authorities said made it almost impossible to bring
charges. the protect act eliminated that and imposed a 30-year
sentence for a conviction.
"the big change here," said charles a. ray, the american
ambassador to cambodia, "is that we can actually take aggressive
action against these people and see results."
mr. clark, who lived in cambodia for about five years before his
arrest and had returned occasionally to seattle, is the first to
challenge the new law. according to the criminal complaint
against mr. clark, he told investigators that he had molested
"approximately 40 to 50 children, stating that some of them may
have been 18 years old." he was charged with molesting two boys
and pleaded guilty to the charges in march. but he also argued
that the legal expansion was unconstitutional and an abuse of
congress' authority to regulate commerce.
on april 26 a federal judge in seattle upheld the
constitutionality of the law, saying congress had acted within
its power. mr. clark is to be sentenced june 25 but may still
appeal the ruling.
american officials acknowledge that privately, some countries
remain wary of working so closely with united states agencies.
but so far, american officials say, foreign nations have been
largely receptive.
cambodia, in particular, is considered "a paradise" for foreign
****s, said aarti kapoor, a lawyer with a cambodia-based
group that assists prostitutes and abuse victims. many residents
are young and impoverished, the country's judicial system is
prone to bribery and corruption and neighboring thailand- also a
favorite destination for sex tourists - has cracked down on the
sex trade, ms. kapoor said. "u.s. law enforcement represents the
only hope of finding justice," she said.
federal officials point to richard arthur schmidt as just the
kind of person that the new law was intended to snare.
mr. schmidt, 61, is a former schoolteacher from the baltimore
area who was repeatedly arrested in the mid-1980's for abusing
boys.
in 1987, mr. schmidt was sentenced to an 18-year prison term
after being convicted of multiple counts of sexually abusing a
12-year-old boy in baltimore, court records show. he served 13
years, spending part of that time enrolled in a sex-offender
program, officials said.
in 2000, he was released early for good behavior and settled in
an upscale neighborhood in north baltimore. but in 2003, state
investigators said that he had tried to take pornographic
photographs of two boys in the baltimore area, state officials
said. a warrant for his arrest was issued, but he fled, first to
north carolina and then to the philippines.
last year, the philippine police arrested mr. schmidt and
charged him with having sex with **** boys. he fled again,
this time to cambodia. and within weeks, he was again spotted
having liaisons with young boys.
this time, workers with private child welfare organizations
spotted mr. schmidt taking a cambodian boy to his apartment in
phnom penh. according to court papers, the workers called the
cambodian police, who arrested mr. schmidt. cambodian officials
notified american investigators, who interviewed mr. schmidt him
and began building a case for his indictment in the united
states.
two cambodian brothers, ages 10 and 13, told investigators that
mr. schmidt had taken them to his apartment several times,
teaching them english and computer games, then photographing
them naked in the shower. a cambodian judge released mr. schmidt
last dec. 25, but confirep001ed his passport and placed him on
police watch.
two days later, a social worker with a french group, action for
the children, saw mr. schmidt check into a guesthouse with a
12-year-old boy, officials said. the social worker, who had been
tailing mr. schmidt, called the police, who arrested mr. schmidt
again. the boy later told investigators that mr. schmidt had
sodomized him.
mr. schmidt was returned to baltimore in february to face
charges under the protect act and is in jail awaiting trial. his
lawyer could not be reached for comment.
one group, the international justice mission, has investigators
who build cases against suspected offenders, then turn the
evidence over to law enforcement officials. the group has also
been training cambodian police in collecting evidence that can
be used in american courts.
another group, world vision, serves as a clearinghouse for tips
on foreign sexual predators and has mounted a $2-million
advertising campaign, financed in part by the state department,
to warn americans against committing sexual offenses abroad. the
group plans campaigns in thailand and costa rica, and with
billboards near the airport in phnom penh and elsewhere in
cambodia.
"abuse a child in this country," reads one poster, "go to jail
in yours."
Intransit. And your point is?
i'd rat out a **** to the us authorities if i saw it in my travels to the pi. i hope they do a good job of prosecuting for it more often.
mook
Indeed. But one must wonder, how much further is the long arm of US law going to go?
intransit,
a bit of a waste of space. posting the link would have been fine.
i have no sympathy for ****s, they should get what ever the local judicial system can dish out. but, the thought of a government prosecuting for crimes committed outside their own borders sets a pretty scary precedent.
FD,
I will accede to your outranking me as a Senior Member. I posted the entire article to save people the hassle of registering for the NY Times Web site.
No harm no foul. :)
Hey Guys,
I need a recommendation for a cell phone shop. I know about the used cell phone shops already, checked out the upstairs of Harrison Plaza last time, the girls there are very low quality at the mall, don't waste your time. So, I decide this time to buy a cell phone. Anybody have experience buying from the cell phone store in Glorietta Mall in Makati, you know the one on the 2nd floor with the phones in the display. I'm not looking for dirt cheap prices but the prices they give are fair prices right.
If you have a recommendation for a good store with fair prices in a big mall, ie, Mega Mall, SM Makati, etc. Post it here so we know where to go.
Mook
Mookman,
I bought my Sony Ericsson from this store in Greenbelt 1 close the 'The Spa'. Sorry, I can't remember the name but good service and was able to haggle for some freebies and discount.
Avsurfer or Avid Video in Greenbelt 3 also sells lots of cell phones and they have plenty of locations and reputable.
Goodluck.
IB
The one thing I did learn in the PI is that you can haggle with the price on everything including the hotel rooms. I found the same phones can be had for cheaper outside Manila, I don't remember the model exactly, but got an Ericcson for about 3000 pesos cheaper in Naga City. Also you might find the "corner" stores maybe cheaper than the malls. (Overhead)
Do cell phones in the PI have different area codes for where you buy it or where you request it. Like I would like a Manila cell phone area code for my cell. Or is it like other countries where there are separate area codes for cell phones so it doesn't matter.
Thanks
Mook
Mookman:
No. Cell phone numbers all seem to begin with 0916 or 0917 regardless of location. There may be some differences among the various service providers, primarily Globe and Smart, but that's about all. Area codes only seem to apply to land lines.
Alright, I think this is my last question about cell phones.
How much is charged for recieving calls, say from the US? And calling the USA from the cell phone is it at least the same rate as when you use the PLDT card which I think is around 22p a min?
Thanks
Mook
Mookman,
There's no charge to receive calls using a cell. The cost of calling to the US using the cell phone is about the same as using a PLDT card. The only advantage in using a PLDT card to call out is the quality of the line. Physical area codes don't apply to cell phones. Mobile area codes are sold as blocks to mobile service providers such as SMART, Globe, Sun, etc. You can buy a 0919, for example, in both Manila or Mindanao. I believe 0919s are sold by SMART. The codes available right now are 091x to 092x.
Mookman:
MasterBlaster is correct. The Globe prefix is 0917, and there's no charge for receiving calls. Also you can buy recharge cards almost anywhere. The system seems to be pretty reliable most of the time, but there are "dead zones" even in the middle of some of the bigger cities.
Here is some information about bar girls that some dude emailed me:
Lets talk about the type of Bargirls you will encounter on your trip
to PI. This small guide covers and describe the entire bargirl
population in PI. Bargirls are individual human beings and should be treated as such.
A bargirl is a dancer, waitress or doorgirl that works in a bar in PI and can be EWR’d (Early Work Released aka barfined).
Probably the easiest way to understand the PI bargirl is by looking at the various stereotypes. Rarely will a bargirl fit neatly into one stereotype. Most girls have a complex set of motivations while working the bar scene in PI. Understanding those motivations allows you to have more fun during your travel in PI. Of course, since bargirls are women you and I will never truly understand them. But it can be fun trying.
Here are the different types of Bargirls found in PI.
SHY GIRL
Most Filipinas are actually very shy around foreigners. A girl fresh
from the province is almost certain to be shy. This shyness might only last a few weeks or months but it will be unmistakable.
Body shyness is a big part of this. Proper attire for a Filipina swimming in the provinces is not a bikini. It is mostly long pants or shorts and a heavy shirt over an undershirt and a bra. Take a body shy girl from the province and put her on stage in a bikini and watch the fun. She will try to stand behind the other girls on stage and hide various body parts with her hands if she catches you looking too closely.
Body shy girls are often verbally shy as well. You can buy them a LD and they can easily remain silent or give one word answers to your questions for the entire time you are in the bar. I have found real gems among the shy girls as they are often quite new to the bar scene. It may take a few days to get the shy girl to relax with you but the result may be worth it.
STUNNER
Maybe it is her skin tone, her beautiful face but mostly it is her
entire shape and body that makes a stunner. Sure beauty is in the eye of the beholder but some girls are just simply maganda to many foreigners - speacially after a few drinks, lol.
Unfortunately the stunner will realize this about five minutes after she starts working inside a bar and sees all the attention directed at her. At this point her attitude starts to change. She starts thinking about what the customer can do for her instead of what she can do for the customer to make him happy.
My experience with stunner girls is that usually her bad attitude overpowers her beauty. Stunner girls often quickly develop into high maintainence girls. More so when you date them for a fews days or for a while.
HIGH MAINTAINENCE GIRL
These girls are easily spotted from across the bar by the glare from their gold jewelry. A cherry girl or a girl fresh from the province will have very little jewelry. Jewelry is often given when the girl makes the guy very happy. If he didn’t buy the gold jewelry then he gave her enough pesos for her to buy it herself.
On the plus side it means that she is capable of making someone very happy. Unfortunately her boyfriend or honeyko may have her so emotionally wrapped up that she will not make you very happy.
In my experience a high maintainence girl is a risky EWR. If you are only looking to butterfly - a series of one night stands, then it is doubtful that she will forget her boyfriend(s) long enough to show you a good time in one night.
PROFESSIONAL GIRL
This girl knows what you want and is prepared to deliver it to you
with minimal hassles. She doesn’t waste time telling you much about herself and her problems. The professional girl will be asking you if you want short time or long time and what positions would be required.
If she is very professional she may even want to discuss the size of her tip before she has even left the bar. Some prefer this directness but it lacks a little of the GFE (Girl Friend Experience) that I enjoy so much in PI. On the plus side, the professional girl may be the only honest bargirl that you will meet in your stay in PI.
BOLLA BOLLA GIRL
Some will argue that every bargirl in PI is a bolla bolla (liar) girl.
They may be right. Some girls will even lie to you for no reason. In
their defense they have to listen to all the foreigners lie to them
constantly also. It is only natural for them to want to return the
favor. They simply don’t think that it is inappropriate for them to
lie to you. It takes a long time for most bargirls to trust you enough to be honest with you.
Sadly, for some bargirls it is simply not possible for them to be honest. If any single stereotype can be found in combination with others then this is one that fits all of the stereotypes.
SUPPORT GIRL
This girl’s objective is to get you interested enough in her to send
her monthly support payments. The fact that she has three other guys already sending her support will not deter her in the slightest.
Honesty is a joke. She will literally do or say anything to get what
she wants. She may test you early on by asking if she can stop at JJ’s supermarket before going to your hotel. Of course you are expected to pay. If she says she needs hair conditioner but you walk out of JJ’s with three or more items than she may be testing you.
If your pockets are deep and your hotel room expensive then she will take note. You can expect the magic word ‘support’ to be mentioned in the morning. You might think it strange that a bargirl would even mention the word support after only one night but believe me it happens. On the plus side, it might be a great night as she could be very motivated.
SECOND TIER
These are the girls that make up the bulk of the lineup in any bar.
They aren't stunners but are still decent looking girls with fair to
good figures. Maybe a skin condition, a small rice belly or some bad teeth keeps them from being a stunner. One thing that you will notice in the PI is that girls from the poorer provinces have rarely if ever visited a dentist and an orthodontist would be impossibly expensive.
The advantage of a second tier girl is that they don’t have the
attitude of the stunners. They are very happy that you chose them for EWR and their performance in the bedroom is usually great.
You probably have the best chance of a GFE with one of these girls. They have no intention of leaving after one session. Your aircon hotel room with cable TV and minibar is heaven to them, compared to their tiny apartments with three bargirl roommates. Often times they will develop into Cinderella girls, particularly if you EWR them more then one night.
CINDERELLA
She is looking for Prince Charming to rescue her from her life of
poverty and prostitution. Her favorite movie is ‘Pretty Woman’. If she thinks you are her prince then you are in for a wild ride. She will do and say almost anything in order to be with you. Honesty about her past is forgotten in her desire to present herself to you in the best possible light.
She desperately wants to hear the magic words ‘mahal
kita’ (I love you) from you. If you are foolish enough to say the
magic words then she will instantly start planning your lives together as newlyweds. Children’s names will be suggested by her. On the plus side you can expect some great times in bed as she tries her very best to please you.
However, when you ask her to go home in the morning the
tears will be histrionic. Spending a week or more with one girl can
often turn her into Cinderella but it can also happen in one night, if you are very nice to her.
CHERRY GIRL
In my experience there are three kinds of cherry girls in AC. The
obvious one is the true cherry girl (virgin) that is looking for a
husband. Filipino culture values virginity quite highly. A Filipino
man with an education and a good job would never marry anything but a virgin. A cherry girl believes that must be true for foreigners as well. If she is husband shopping then she has to hold on to her credit card.
The second type of cherry girl is actually selling a product and you
can expect intense negotiations with mamasan over the price. Of
course, as with any verbal sales agreement, packaging and freshness are not guaranteed.
The third kind of cherry girl is the one that really doesn’t want you
to EWR her. A bargirl telling you that she is cherry when you suggest going back to your hotel may be just politely saying no to you. Maybe you need to shower and brush your teeth more often. If you have already bought the girl six ladies drinks then you might be disappointed.
Shame on you, for not asking her earlier, if she was a cherry girl. If the girl doesn’t want to go back to your hotel with you then it is pointless to persist. Neither of you will have a good time. With such a high bargirl population in PI you are sure to find many others that will like you or at least like your wallet.
MARTYR GIRL
A lot of girls fresh from the province will fall into this stereotype.
The girl will say that she has been forced by her family to work in
the big cities and send money home to them every month. She will tell you that she is actually a good girl and she may even believe it herself for a long time. Other jobs would not allow her to send enough support to her family.
Unfortunately the attention and money from foreigners’ changes them over time. The fact that she has an expensive cell phone, nice clothes, manicures and pedicures twice a week is ignored. In her mind she is still forced to work in the bar in order to support her family.
She wants your sympathy. She wants you to feel guilty. She also wants a big tip. The martyr girl can’t really enjoy herself or be your girlfriend in your hotel room or she wouldn’t be a martyr.
WESTERNIZED GIRL
These girls are easy to spot as they will often have dyed hair,
stylish haircuts, heavy makeup and white faces. They embrace the
western culture and reject their own heritage. If you watch Filipino television and movies you will notice that the ‘good’ characters have western noses and skin colors. The Westernized girl will often accessorize herself with western clothes, cigarettes and body jewelry.
I am not sure why they think that a guy would travel across the globe to be with a western looking Filipina.
FALLING STAR
Filipinas normally look much younger than their years. Even so, a
bargirl that works for too many years in PI will start to look older.
If she has had one or more children then it will likely have taken a
toll on her figure. A falling star will often work as a waitress and
may wear a fair bit of makeup. A waitress uniform hides the years
better than a bikini. When the other girls in the bar are 18 or 19
years old, then a 25 year old falling star has some serious
competition. That translates into fewer ladies drinks and fewer EWRs.
Anyone who has experienced a drop in income will know that it is a difficult adjustment. For a Filipina, whose family is demanding ever increasing amounts of support money, the pressure can be enormous. The falling star may not be wearing much jewelry but they probably have some pawnshop slips in their purse. These girls can be aggressive in the bar. They can’t let you spend 15 minutes looking at the bikinis on stage.
They will be flashing their susu’s (breasts) or other body
parts in your direction. Lap dancing and heavy petting are often on the menu. They will be asking you to EWR them and not be concerned with getting more than one ladies drink. In my experience they can make excellent EWR’s. They will often be more willing to accommodate your specific sexual requests than a younger and more popular girl.
Their years in the bar scene will also give them a lot more skill than some of the newer girls. Turn the lights off in your hotel room and have fun.
AGGRESSIVE GIRL
It seems that most bars have one or two very aggressive girls working for them. The aggressive girl is usually the first to greet you when you walk into the bar. She is often has the loudest voice in the bar.
She is probably not shy about revealing various body parts to you, even from on stage. She will sit down beside you or even on your lap without an invitation. A ladies drinks will magically appear, again often without your consent. The bar tolerates her aggressiveness because of the number of ladies drinks that she sells in an evening.
Typically, she is not very interested in EWR as that costs her time
from the bar that she could be making commissions on ladies drinks. If she does go EWR then it is probably short time or she could very well be a runner.
It is easy to distinguish the falling star from the aggressive girl. If you are under a lot of pressure to buy ladies drinks then you are dealing with an aggressive girl. Fortunately it is also easy to avoid the clutches of an aggressive girl in the bar.
Simply refuse to buy her a ladies drink and she will be on the lap of another bar patron in an instant.
TBIRD
Most bars have one or two Tbirds (lesbians) working in the bar. They may not be obvious but certainly the other bargirls know which girls are the Tbirds. I really can’t say what proportion of Tbirds are bisexual. I have seen some Tbird's be barfined by a lesbian foreigner.
I know of one that goes to PI to do just that. Once you know which girls in the bar are Tbirds it can be fun to watch them interact with a straight bargirl. Imagine EWRing two Tbirds to put on a show in your hotel room while you are getting it on with a heterosexual bargirl!
COMMITTED GIRL
Some AC bargirls already have boyfriends (foreigner or Filipino) or
even husbands. They are working in the bar because they need the money to keep their partner(s) happy. Sadly, some level of domestic abuse may be involved.
They are not likely going to make you happy in your
hotel room when their life is so sad. They are often adept at keeping the fact of a boyfriend a secret from customers. If they seem reluctant to agree to long time or discuss particular sexual positions then there is a good chance that they are committed to another guy.
They are often under pressure from the bar to get more EWRs. If
mamasan is pushing you to EWR, but the girl seems reluctant, then you may be dealing with a committed girl. If you do EWR a committed girl then you have a much higher than normal chance of dealing with a runner on your hands.
SHABU GIRL
Sadly, the illegal and addictive amphetamine shabu is readily
available in the PI. Some girls are working in bars simply to finance their shabu addiction. The medical symptoms of a shabu user are: increased energy, perception, self confidence as well as a sense of euphoria.
However, they also commonly experience irritability, impulsivity, impaired judgement, and insomnia, as well as nausea, dizziness and anorexia. Personally, I avoid the moody, skinny girls that appear to be high. It is really not something that you can totally avoid, so I would not worry about it too much.
ALCOHOLIC GIRL
A bargirl consuming tequila shots every evening will eventually
develop a dependence on alcohol. If you think that the only alcoholics in PI are the foreigners and the expats then you are fooling yourself.
Yes, 19 year old bargirls can be alcoholics. It doesn’t take much
tequila to get a 90 lbs. bargirl drunk. If you think that a drunk or
hungover bargirl is going to be a wildcat in bed then you are sadly
mistaken. You are far more likely to be cleaning up after her,
listening to dry heaves all night or staring at her comatose body. If its 10 pm and a bargirl has already had a few too many then ask her when her shift starts. You can always come back another day and rescue her from the evil demon tequila by EWRing her when her shift starts.
Just don’t take her barhopping for six hours or at least make sure she is drinking something other than booze.
THREE HOLER GIRL
If you are really interested in a three holer girl then I think you
would have better luck asking the mamasan first. Be sure to buy the mamasan a drink before you pop that question. Few girls in the bars are three holers and shy to talk about it inside the bar. Like I said ask the mamasan. They know which are the three holers in the bar.
Hope you get to enjoy at least once each of the type of bargirls in
PI. It will fulfill your PI dream in some sort of way.
Great post Sun Devil! Shows a lot of experience and it is highly entertaining. I will surely have a grin on my face as I begin to associate these categories with the b****** I meet.
Sun Devil, you are great. I go through all those classifications, but subconsciously whenever I am in a bar. Also watch for those girls 'on heat' that sit, cross their legs and masterbate by leg swinging. They are ready but seem unaware their body language is giving the game away.
I would love to see a Filipina's classification of the guys who go to bars!
Masterblaster,
I guess we will be doing plenty of association with Sun Devil's list this coming November along with NYP.
IB
I'd like to hear from someone with experience in mongering in Latin America and Asia. I am looking for a trip this year. I am really into pinays and latinas. Is a better trip to be had in Thailand or The Phillipines? Columbia/Peru or SE Asia. I have a thing for beautiful and young and cheap and into anal. Any suggestions?
IB,
No doubt! A few more months and we will be in monger's heaven. NYP is such a lucky dog. I'd like to hear his FRs from his most recent trip. NYP, where are you?
MasterBlaster
I had joined the Filipinaheart site some months ago. When I joined the site I created a new email address with AOL for which I would only give that email address out on Filipina Heart.
I didn't take long for the spamers to come crashing in.
This complete prick of a person has an email address that I can put here because of the rules. This fucker is taking guys for a complete ride. I wish I know how to stop his game. I have attached his latest email to me for your review.
Check this shit out! I copied his email to me below.
The cheapest deal he is offering is $3,230.00 for 4 night and five days. Not including air fare. Hell you could get what he is offering for 25% of that price and live good while there. The pictures in his email did not copy, but the girls pictures he is using are from various web sites all over the Internet. I'm sure he is just lifting the pictures without permission.
If anyone wants his email address or would like for me to forward this pricks email to them send me a private message.
I thought the Philippines was a heaven for us all to enjoy. It is a shame that some prick is taking fellow monger newbies for such an expensive ride.
FF
Our original singles service has now been become redundant due to the popularity of the Executive Service and we now want to just concentrate on this level of service and make it as good as we possibly can for every client.
It seems the quality of the girls was far more important to the majority of our clients than quantity and as we always suggested.....when you see the quality of the girls wanting to meet you.....who needs quantity!
And we've kept the price for this exceptional service way down!!
And all clients will now have access to our very exclusive club.
LIKE NOTHING LESS THAN MODEL STANDARD AS A
WIFE,
MISTRESS
or
GIRLFRIEND?
Never had the opportunity to be with 10/10 caliber girls and have them truly wanting to please you and simply be with you in the hope of being your girlfriend or wife.
And we do mean STUNNINGLY BEAUTIFUL, MODEL FIGURES, INCREDIBLY SEXY and SWEET YOUNG GIRLS who are all very well groomed in every way to please their western partner.
Our EXECUTIVE SERVICES offers you this very exclusive opportunity.
This service is really designed for the discerning man who seriously wants the best looking girl on his arm and by his side......and close with him everywhere else as well.
Why not feel good about being with a stunning looking girl......enjoying her gorgeous face, super sexy body, flat and tight tummy, tanned and silky soft skin like you wouldn't believe, long dark hair and brilliant smile that will melt your heart.....all the things we love to look at and be excited by.......but never get the chance to have.
And with our girls, you also get a girl with a very sweet personality, loving, naturally sexy, non-materialistic, very loyal to you and with a genuine desire to please their man.
And the grooming of these girls has taken time and money but at least guarantees you will be very well pleased in every way......these girls never look anything less than perfect!
And let's face facts, how and where can you meet girls with such model looks like our girls but without the bad attitudes of western women........and feel secure knowing that they really want to meet you and be with you and please you..........?? These girls may be absolutely gorgeous but they are still so sweet, affectionate, devoted and their attention is 100% on you......it's a refreshing change right!
They're all here waiting for you now!!
Generally aged between 18 and 26yo (or as you desire), and ALL wanting to meet a friendly, gentle and older western man for a serious relationship and/or marriage.
All are English speaking (the majority speak very fluent English).
Why Us?
Because this is what we do. And we do it very well. We have the girls, the service, the know-how and the experience.......and we can offer you all this at a very low cost.
The Schedule
Day 1 Arrive Manila Philippines and be met by your personal assistant & driver.
You will also have a very beautiful young lady waiting to greet you and keep you close company and pamper you your first night just to start your holiday off in the perfect way.
Your personal assistant will take you both to your 4 star hotel in the heart of the business and entertainment district of Manila. This is a great hotel and we have a deluxe room booked for your total comfort. You have a huge variety of restaurants, bars, nightclubs, shopping centers and the famous 'girlie' bars all right on your doorstep. And a brilliant rooftop pool and cafe to take in the breathtaking views of the city..... a very romantic place for you and your favorite girl........or girls.
Relax and be spoiled the first night and get ready for your introductions the next day.
Day 2 Your assistant will begin arranging your introductions. You will meet 4-6 model quality girls during the day in cafes and quiet bars to make it a friendly relaxed atmosphere for you both to talk and get to know each other better. From there you may wish to spend the remainder of the day with one or two of the girls and/or arrange to go out that night. Whatever you want to do your assistant will arrange.
At night, your assistant will take you to our exclusive club where you can select from over 50 model quality girls to join you in a private room to talk and get to know each other. You may wish to spend the whole night with her or you can simply select another girl......it's all up to you.
Your hardest decision will be which girl to spend the remainder of the night with.....the girls from the day meetings or the girls you meet in our club.......tough decision!!!!
Day 3-20 Same format where you continue daytime meetings most days and have full access to our exclusive club every second night (check pricing guide for details).
Or until you say 'stop....I've met enough girls'......or you find the girl of your dreams and just want to spend the remaining days and nights just with her.
Many clients meet their dream girl within the first week and prefer to spend the remaining time just with her......or at least their favorite few.
We totally understand and appreciate that so from that point on, we simply provide the driver and car each day and night at your service. However, if you did want to start meeting girls again.....then just say the word.
We have never had a client not find his dream girl so we are well used to taking a back seat and just let you enjoy her company and develop your exciting new relationship.
You will be the only client during your particular dates so that our staff can dedicate 100% of their time and attention to you.
And of course, the girls will be meeting only you.
So if you're tired of fat bulging waistlines, lack of attention, boring sex life, materialistic ideals and a lack of excitement and love in your life, then this service is your answer.
Pricing Guide
As always, please use the prices below as a guide. Once we receive your interest and know exactly what you want and how long you wish to stay, we will provide fixed prices.
7 night package US$3230
(5 days daytime meetings, 3 nights in our club, 1 special night)
10 night package US$4380
(8 days daytime meetings, 5 nights in our club, 2 special nights)
14 night package US$5500
(11 days daytime meetings, 7 nights in our club, 3 special nights)
20 night package US$7120
(14 days daytime meetings, 10 nights in our club, 4 special nights)
* Special nights - before you travel we distribute your photo and details throughout our network so girls know of your upcoming visit and they will let our agents know they really want to meet you. We then just pick the most beautiful and sexy of these girls and arrange her to meet and be with you that night...... or if you stay 10 nights then we pick and arrange the best 2, 14 nights you will have 3 and 20 nights you will have 4.
So that's more sensational girls to meet and more exciting nights to enjoy!! You will be pleased!
All prices above include -
airport pick up and return
your personal assistant day and night
your personal car day and night
7-20 nights deluxe room accommodation (taxes included) at this leading tourist hotel
Beautiful young lady to meet you at the airport and accompany you your first night
INTRODUCTIONS arranged for you each day and night of your stay or as long as you require. All model quality girls. Daytime meetings of 4-6 girls and nighttime in our exclusive club where we have over 50 model quality girls for you.
Personal guide and car for nightlife exploring should you want a night or two off from your introductions.
Day trips sight-seeing with your girl(s)
A few other very special surprises for our discerning clients using this service.
There are NO hidden costs. Just your basic living expenses, food, drink, nightly entertainment etc. and additional fuel and car costs for trips outside 50km from your location should you want to go sightseeing in the country areas with your girls......these additional costs are very low as your dollar goes a long way in Philippines.
There are NO marriage fees or 'finders fees'. We just provide you the best possible service and introduce you to the best girls you will ever find.....and when you find your perfect girl, then that's our reward. Although we do hope you will tell your friends about us.......
You can see we have developed an amazing service for you and thought of everything to make your holiday as exciting and successful as possible.
You can be assured of not only meeting the most beautiful sweet and sexy girls in the world, but also of having a sensational holiday.......definitely the trip of a lifetime.
What to do Now?
Simply email us your preferred dates and we will either confirm these dates or advise on alternative dates....remember we don't double up on our clients.
We will need a 20% deposit to secure dates, and payment in full (in US$) 3-4 weeks prior to your departure. Payments can be made by cheque, money order, western union money transfer or electronic deposit.
PARADISE IS JUST A SHORT PLANE TRIP AWAY - AND YOUR PERFECT
PARTNER AWAITS YOU........WE URGE YOU NOT TO MISS OUT.
Hello all,
I'm currently planning a trip to either the PI or Thailand and one of the things that I would like to do there is make a porno. Actually, i'm planning on creating an adult website that features asian women and figured both those places would be idea for talent. Now I've read on here that pornography is illegal in Thailand, is it also illegal in the Phillipines? Also, regarding that prostitution is also illegal in Thailand but generally accepted, does anyone else here know if the same could be said for producing porn? Also, I heard that the women were somewhat camera shy but you wouldn't know it considering some of the pics that I've seen here. Anyone here know what there attitude would be about videos?
Love this forum and would appreciate any info that anyone has.
Hey there,
Am married to a Filipina and been in PI several times - enough to know "my way around" the topics typically discussed. The wifey wants to return home, and I wouldn't mind it except I've gotta keep working since I'm not rich, and I'm not old enough to think about retiring.
So, my question is this - got any input for a guy like me who's in the drug/biotech industry? My impression is why would someone in the PI hire me, asking for U.S. wages, when they can hire some Filipino for pennies a day? However, having been there, I see expats gainfully employed. I wanna live in the PI, but I gotta make something close to U.S. wages.
Responses would be gladly accepted, especially if you want to take this off-line and communicate via email.
Nomad
I just spent 6 weeks in the country and I just want to emphasize that advance preparation is key to getting the most out of your trip.
If you can chat with lots of girls in places like Yahoo Messenger. Find out what they're like and what they'll do. Eventually you'll have a stable of willing, high quality performers and you may not even need to hit night life places to find your bedwarmers.
And of course read all the information here that you can by all the experienced posters so you don't waste your time on wild goose chases.
Mahku,
I recently joined some sites featuring "available" Filipinas. Question to you. With all of these "God Fearing", "Conservative", and "Marraige Minded" females floating around how do you find the friskey ones? Are there any hints that they leave in their profile or is futher interrogation the only way to discover this?
KnickFan,
With the 'nice' girls time is the most important factor. If you're only making one visit for 3 or 4 days then stick with pros. But if you can make several visits of several weeks each then you have time to loosen her up. Take her and her friends out to dinner, movies, romantic view places like Tops if you're in Cebu, etc. The first couple of times make no moves at all. Then when you do make advances she'll probably say no at which point you should stop immediately. I've found that lots of girls are actually turned on because I respected their wishes and they end up attacking me a short time later.
Another important factor is if she lives with her family or not. The ones who live in boarding houses away from their relatives are better bets than the ones that have Mommy and Daddy waiting at home every night. Of course there are lots of girls like that in the big city but even smaller university towns like Dumaguete and Cagayan can have girls living on their own.
It takes time and effort but if you make several trips eventually you'll have a stable of girls waiting for you in different towns.
Frequent Flier:
You did a great service to everyone by posting that asshole's email. It's amazing to me that people can be naive enough to buy this crap, especially if they have the intelligence to do even a minimum amount of research on sites such as this one. I wonder if people realize that the price he's charging is about 3 times the annual income of families in the Philippines. I wonder how much he pays the girls to fall in love with these guys.
Knick Fan:
Do not worry about the "God Fearing" and "Conservative" labels. Filipinas pretty much tell you what they think you want to hear. These girls describe themselves this way to convince you that they are marriageable. My advice would be to ignore the labels, concentrate on looks, and see where the meetings take you. I doubt that you will be disappointed in the outcomes.
KnickFan,
I posted this once but it seems it never made it here. I'll try again.
With the conservative, God-fearing thing you have to take each girl case by case. I would say with the majority it's an Asian public face thing. They say these things for the benefit of their family and whoever else is watching. But if you can get them alone then anything goes. You do often have to take some time to win them over, maybe 2 or 3 dates with no physical moves. Then they decide that you're a 'nice guy' and are more likely to jump in the sack. Go figure.
Also, when you do begin to make advances, the girl will often say no. At this point I usually back off completely, and it's not long before the girl starts making moves on me. I guess because I showed her respect it made her want it more. Again go figure.
Some girls actually are chaste and will not go to your room ever.
One important factor in all this is whether the girl is living with her family or not. The ones that are living on their own are much better bets than the ones who go home every day to Mom and Dad. That's why the big cities and even the smaller university towns like Cagayan and Dumaguete are such good hunting grounds.
Mahku and GoodEnough,
Thanks for that info. I can be persistant if need be.
Hallo to all,
I have tried to find the information I need trough the whole forum but I wasn't able to find it.
I would like to visit PI next year, and I would like to travel around for about 3 months. Anyone can tell me if it is possible to get a visa for 90 days?
In my country PI embassy will give a visa for a stay not exceeding 59 days. Somebody said to me that in Bangkok is possible to get a visa for 3 months stay, but this information come from a not verifiable source.
I will be pleasing to anyone who will be able to help me.
Thanks
Leo
Leo Monti:
The 59 days is the duration of the average tourist visa for which you need only your passport. If you want a visa for a longer term, it's simple. Go to any Philippines Embassy and apply for a longer-term stay. You will get it in a day by just explaining that you want to travel around for three or four months. I did this when I first came here. You can go to the Embassy in Bangkok, Washington, DC., or wherever.
Leo,
It's also pretty easy to extend visas in country (in the Philippines).
FD
FD & GE,
Thanks for your quick answer and suggestion. As I will spent some days in Thailand before my trip to PI, I will try first to get a long term visa in BKK.
With my poor english, hope to be able to report some good experiences from my trip.
Thanks again,
Leo
Leo Monti,
I got the 59 day visa last year in Bangkok for the equivalent of US$33. I can’t recall any information about longer term visas, but I think they were available. When you go to the embassy make sure you have the following items:
• Your ticket to and from the Philippines showing the arrival and departure days. I once tried showing them a ticket with open arrival, but they wouldn’t take it. Also have a photocopy of the ticket with you.
• Photocopy of your passport information page.
• Photocopy of your Thai entry stamp page. I don’t know why in the world they wanted this. It’s just dumb bureaucracy.
• A couple of passport photos. I think I only needed one but it pays to err on the side of too many.
You’ll probably have to wait about a day for the processing. But waiting in Bangkok isn’t too much of a hardship.
If you think this process is a pain you should try the Philippine Consulate in Dubai. They wanted all of the above plus:
• A professional translation of my Emirates visa.
• A notarized letter from my employer verifying my job and salary.
• A bank statement showing my bank balance.
• And they wanted $70, more than double most other places.
Like others have said you can just enter the Philippines without a visa and get an extension before your 21 days are up.
I may be wrong but I think extra taxes start kicking in after 59 days. Maybe some of the longer staying guys can answer that.
Lucky for the Philippines that the charm of the women lets us put up with all these hassles. There are plenty of countries in the region and elsewhere that let us stay for 90 days visa free and are glad to take our tourist spending.
Gentlemen, I am looking to buy a O/W from Manila to BKK.
Kuwait air had a good deal R/T from BKK, but the one way is rather expensive, at least online.
Does anyone have email contact for a reliable and honest company in Manila, so that I might buy a tix there?
Thank you
Hey 1ball,
Welcome.
If there is any way you can swing it, buy your round trips in BKK. Much cheaper than buying in the RP. Just leave the return open and use it later.
FD
FD,
my plan is to fly to PI from the States, then onto BKK, hence my reason for a O/W from Manila. Any ideas of some good travel agents in Manila ?
1ball,
You can't reverse the direction ? Too bad, you'd save a couple hundred.
I do not use T.A.'s in the RP. My favorite in the states is Amor at (213) 386-6156.
A "circle" fare starting in L.A. is often a cheap way to do it, but I've never seen the RP included in the routes.
Cathy Pacific also offers an "All Asia Pass" that does include BKK and MNL. But all regional flights are in and out of HK. $999, originating on the west coast ( LA, SF or Seatle). You can upgrade to Biz or 1st for a large fee. I know you don't mind paying for the comfort. :)
Good luck.
FD
Hi,
Anyone planning to be in AC starting the last day of Sept 2004? I'll be there with friends until mid October.
I think the rules say no phone numbers or emails - so that leaves pm's if you are interested.
Flying from BKK to MNL through CRK.
Pleasure loves company -- holler if you want a share a drink and a story.
J
LOS,
I arrive the same day into MNL, but will get to AC about 11.30pm. Will be at the Blue Nile from midnight. I'll be with a lurid looking, short (about 5ft 3in), old fella with glasses and a grey beard. Hope we can have a beer or 10 together.
Hi guys,
I'd like to take vacation in RP next month. I'm looking for a city with a beach nearby, decent night life, and a chance to meet a "non professionals as well as professionals. What's my best bet: Manilla, Cebu, Davao, or Angeles?
KnickFan,
You could try Bauang, La Union.. 5 hrs north of Manila.. nice little beach resorts with clubs nearby. You can meet club girls and non pros alike. It s cheaper in the province too. I stayed at Bali Hai resort couple of months back,which is basic but with a great bar and restaurant. Its quieter than the more popular beach resorts but it depends on what you're looking for.
Have fun
Flying Scotsman
Any thoughts on the best places for mongering young real blondes on both ease ,gfe , and less important price(under 200) I really enloy young natural blondes but Moscow seems like a forbid place, any thouths really aprreciated.
Holy crap Marc,
Maybe it's time to quit vodka ! :)
FD
I've seen numerous posts lately about the need for cell phones here, all of which are true. However, do not worry about bringning a phone that has been "locked" by a service provider. The country teems with small shops that will unlock any phone for a small fee.
Marc:
Maybe you should study a little before your next post. This country is not exactly known for it's population of blond women. Aren't you the same guy who is thinking of marrying his Filipina girlfriend?
Bottled blond came be arranged. Natural blond is rear.
to whoever may be interested:
i'll post this in the other appropriate areas as well.
while doing internet searches for other reasons concerning the philippines i found this site that gives semi-street maps of certain areas. there have been times on this site where persons have requested to know or have an idea where a certain area may be. this may help
in the upper left corner there is a street search that can be slow.
in the middle there is a select destination choice and this works very quickly. i am on a high speed connection, so i'm not sure how fast this would load on a phone line (56k) connection.
the maps are flash animated and you can zoom in and out and use the arrow keys on your keypad to move the map around once you zoom in.
i'm not sure how accurate the maps are, but they seem pretty good for the makati area, which is all i'm familiar with. i found p. burgos street pretty easy by doing a select destination for makati and going to where i thought p. burgos street may be down makati avenue.
http://www.onthemap.com.ph
ff
I am going to AC the first week of Nov. I have not arranged my flight. I will departing from LAX, any suggestions on a good travel agenency?
Question2: I need to make phone calls from PI, I need the caller ID to show my FL phone number here in the states. Maybe I could call my number and have someone here make a three way call with my FL phone to the person I am fooling.
(Smoke and Mirrors) Any suggestions?
Bone order,
Not sure how to do the home number bit other than the way you described.
You can buy a phone card in the USA that will show you as dialing from a number in the USA. Any convenience store has these and you can test them by calling your cell phone or home phone and looking at the number that comes up.
You can also buy these on line. You have to write down the numbers or if your memory is good enough hold them there. I have seen cost of calling the PI as low as 7.5 cents a minute, not sure what the price is for calling the USA from the PI though.
Just do an Internet search, if you can't find any PM me and I will see if I can't locate the site again.
FF
Hello guys!
I am new to mongering scene. I am not really looking to screw enormous amounts of pussy, but I would love to find young submissive obidient wife. I have heard remote area's of Phillippines are best places for it. But where exactly and how?
Are there any agencies or private people who can help you?
Can somebody hook me up with them?
Whoever has been there done that please advise.
Thank you
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Bone Order,
The TA that I use is L.A. based. Amor Travel (213) 386-6156.
Cork,
RTFF
Bone order,
As another monger put it recently in another section, are you seeking a companion or a slave? In any case I hope you find what your looking for and that you treat her well.
I have found that going to the web sites of the airlines will give you the best prices. You have to look over the site to find the links for discount flights to certain parts of the world, but they all have them.
Also, look at traveling from a different location than your home city. The airlines, nor the travel web site like Travelocity.com, will do this for you. You have to do it yourself. Try looking at flights from Los Angels, San Francisco, New York City and even Seattle. Then, if you find a low cost flight, see what the cost is for a round trip to the departure city from your home town. A little detective work in this way can go a long way. Travel agents are not necessarily looking for the cheapest flight for you, just the best commission flight for themselves.
Most travel sites and airline sites will give you the option to select a date to leave within a few days of your desired departure date. This can also save you cash if your schedule is flexible.
Personally, I have never found a cheaper price than I can find on my own directly from the airline web site and I have tried many phone numbers or web sites listed on this site and other web sites.
FF
Cork Sucker,
You don't have to go to some remote area in the Philippines o find what you looking for. In fact the more remote places are usually more conservative and you WONT find what you want. The Promdi girls who show up in Manila to "make their fortune" can be found all over Manila, they are looking to "trade up" life styles and will do just about anything for you to make it happen. You just hae to invest the time.
Can anyone notify me of the current visa rules for Americans?--Could I get a 3-week visa upon arrival at Manila airport without having to show a ticket for a flight out of the country?
In terms of personal safety and P4P rates, are there certain spots in the country that rank way higher than others, or is it pretty much the same all over?
There are no visa requirements for Americans in the Philippines. You have automatically 21 days you can stay when you arrive. You just need a US Passport.
As far as personal safety, its pretty much safe anywhere except the very far southern islands of Mindino.
Manila is the most expensive for P4P, but has the best looking women. Angeles City is probably the cheapest, with the most in one place. The rest of the country is pretty much in between those two.
Go back to January 1, 2004 and read all the posts in each section that you might be interested in visiting. You will find the answers to most of your questions.
LK
As for the VISA you have your answer from Lion Killer. But you also brought up an interesting point about your ticket. You do have to have a return flight when traveling to the Philippines.
A few times when traveling from Hong Kong to the Philippines and once when traveling from South Korea to the Philippines when I was trying to purchase one way tickets to Manila I was requested to show a valid ticket leaving the Philippines. If your not a Philippine resident or citizen then you have to show a ticket returning or traveling out of the Philippines.
FF
Jakers,
There are other ways of getting the little buggers that will turn you into a bathroom camper. There is the lettuce that is washed with the tap water and then placed on a sandwich and other ways as well. As for the mixed drinks and ice with the alcohol, I think the alcohol in your drink will kill them before they enter your system.
I have been to the Philippines many times and have had newbies with me a few times also. I have had only one person who did not succumb to the little intestinal buggers. Which by the way are of no harm other than the little amount of time you lose control of your back side.
I always take Imodium-AD with me for myself and any friends along with me. I actually do not have the problem anymore as if you are exposed enough you become accustomed or build up resistance. Not sure which.
Just follow the directions on the package of the Imodium-AD. At the first symptoms take the medication as directed and you will be fine. It has worked for everyone I know who had any problems.
FF
I recently had to leave PI (in order to remain in PI legally) as my 1yr deadline was approaching. Cheapest flight/hotel package was Hong Kong. I was warned by my travel agent that I would not be permitted to leave the Hong Kong airport without furnishing an onward ticket to depart PI within 21 days.
Sure enough I was asked. Yes I was asked in the HONG KONG AIRPORT, even though it seems (to me) that it should not be any of their fucking business. I thought I'd be asked this when returning to Manila, but I wasn't.
I don't know if this occurs in other destinations, i.e. Bangkok, Singapore, etc, but if you will be going to Hong Kong my recommendation is DON'T RISK IT. After you buy yourself a round trip Hong Kong ticket be sure to also purchase a cheap &/or refundable 1 way ticket for a departure out of PI valid for travel < 21 days after your expected return to PI.
Supposedly, Hong Kong officials prohibit those not capable of furnishing such a ticket to return to PI.
p.s. the cheapest onward ticket is for a boat from Zamboanga to Sandakan (Malaysia). If you can't get down to Zambo to pick up a ticket or have someone from there mail you one then be sure to check into the refund policy of your onward airline ticket.
Yes Augie,
I have spoken to this in the past in this and other forums as well as have others.
Leaving Hong Kong, South Korea and other areas traveling to the Philippines.
This has been the policy for many many years.
If you are not a citizen of the Philippines or a permanent resident then you need to have an exit ticket out of the Philippines when you are exiting any country and traveling to the Philippines.
FF
Augie
FYI, many countries impose an obligation on the airline to ensure that the passengers it is carrying have correct visas etc. This can only be done at the check-in counter.
In other words, assuming you were flying on say Cathay, if you arrived in PI without the correct paperwork (eg outward ticket), Cathay could be fined by the PI authorities. And they may also be obliged to fly you of the country again when you are deported.
So it certainly would be their fucking business, and also good business, for them to comply with the law.
jack
Alcohol in drinks does not kill intestenal parasites. However, touristed places (yes even Angeles) use purified water for ice making. Handling after the process is another story. Uncooked produce, as FF points out, is always suspect. You will adjust to it with continued exposure. My biggest problems occur when I return to the US. I have to get used to chlorinated water all over again.
FD
fyi
gentlemen,
some knuclehead was arrested today at lax. i'm not sure if he was joking, but apparently, when asked the reason for his traveling he said something like "i've been teaching filapina girls about sex for the last 20 years" ! idiot.
keep in mind that due to laws enacted within the last several years sex tourism is illegal. you can be prosecuted for acts that are illegal in the usa when outside the usa ! sure doesn't seem constitutional to me, but that's another argument.
this law was adopted primarily to pursue ****s, but if you're dumb enough to admit other indiscretions to an immigration official, you can expect a similar outcome. immigration officials, by design, have no sense of humor in this regard.
lets all keep our hands off kids and keep our mouths shut about the rest.
fd
Hi guys,
Just a question that one of you might be able to help me with.
I was looking at a few sites to meet girls on-line before travelling and came across this site that looked interesting. Its one of those dating web sites and although its probably not a competing web site I won't post the webby for fear of Jacksons wrath :)
Anyway once you log on to the site you get spammed by lots of girls asking for on-line chat. There are heaps of girls listed as members and most are from the Philippines. My question is how can so many girls over there have so much internet access?
I asked a couple of them and didn't get an answer. I suspect its a scam.
Hope someone can help me out.
zos
[quote=firedick]fyi
gentlemen,
some knuclehead was arrested today at lax. i'm not sure if he was joking, but apparently, when asked the reason for his traveling he said something like "i've been teaching filapina girls about sex for the last 20 years" ! idiot.
keep in mind that due to laws enacted within the last several years sex tourism is illegal. you can be prosecuted for acts that are illegal in the usa when outside the usa ! sure doesn't seem constitutional to me, but that's another argument.
this law was adopted primarily to pursue ****s, but if you're dumb enough to admit other indiscretions to an immigration official, you can expect a similar outcome. immigration officials, by design, have no sense of humor in this regard.
lets all keep our hands off kids and keep our mouths shut about the rest.
fd[/quote]i just read this in the ny daily news today and couldn't believe an old guy like this can be given 270 yrs!!!!
[url]http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime_file/story/254549p-217987c.html[/url]
ol' dirty guy
traveled for sex
santa ana, calif. - an 86-year-old man was found guilty of trying to travel to the philippines to sexually molest girls, in the first trial under a new federal law aimed at fighting sex tourism.
a judge found john seljan guilty of six counts, including attempting to travel for the purpose of having sex with minors and possession of child pornography.
seljan, who attended his trial in a wheelchair, faces up to 270 years in prison.
the retired business owner is one of about a dozen men who have been arrested under the protect act, which was enacted last year to prosecute sex tourists.
seljan was arrested at los angeles international airport, where he allegedly tried to board a flight while carrying child pornography, sexual aids and nearly 100 pounds of chocolate.
the associated press
i know i've never posted here before or have never been to the philippines but damn i can't believe the laws that are out there. i never even new about them!
anyone here have a link that might show what the laws are for travelling (besides the obvious and sick stuff)?? i would like to make sure that i don't do anything stupid.
In AC, a budding young entrepeneur has come up with a website that is free for all the girls. He provides an internet cafe on Fields Ave., where all the girls also have free internet access on PCs that have webcams. This cafe is always full of both working and non-working girls. However, there is a word of caution. If you chat or take out one of the girls, ALL of them will know what you are up to, as they constantly talk to each other of the people they chat with. You may only have chatted to one of the girls, but you wil already be known by everyone in the Internet Cafe !! If you need the name of the chat site, PM me !
Hey Zos, whats happening?
I'm a member of Cherry Blossoms and getting spamed by women is a common occurance that you should not be worried about. Many women have internet cafes in there towns and frequent them regularly. I have a girlfriend who works at a cafe and it is loaded with customers everyday. Many schools have internet access as well. Most people cannot afford a computer so the next best thing is a internet cafe.
Peace out, Mattrick
i'm no expert, but i believe that you can be prosecuted for traveling abroad to commit any act that is illegal at home. including smoking a joint.
but, that being said, if the law is applied carefully (such as to sick fucks like ****s) then maybe we can live with it. i have no sympathy for seljan. who cares if he's an old man. just means he's been a criminal for a long time.
fd
Hello: I will be taking a holiday in the Ph in mid February. I arrive late in Manila and fly out early in the morning so I will spend a few days there on either end. As I will be travelling mostly from here to then, I have a few questions:
1. I have a about a week to travel outside of Manila. Should I fly to Davao in Mindanau or is there a nearer and better place to go? I want an easy, relaxing but interesting time. Lots to do but little stress.
2. Angeles does not really appeal to me. Is there a place where there is not full on sex but which is cheaper to hire pussies?
3. last time I was there - about 15 years ago, the green Manila taxis were al rip offs. The black taxis were fine. What is the story there now?
4. Kiddies: Well, those of you familiar with the Thai thread will be aware that it is impossible to get through to the molesters. They live in a world of their own. On the positive side, a lot of that seems to have been cleared up or clamped down on the in the Ph. Locking that old guy up can only help.
5. I have read the forum reasonably carefully: I found the comments about yahoo dating particularly useful. I also found it useful that on line or pre booking brings no discounts. However, as I am a last minute man, I wil probably decise where to go once I hit Manila. But some good leads would be welcome. The main thing is to get a nice week soemwhere outside of Manilsa that is easy enough to get to by land, sea or air.
Thanks
[quote=firedick]i'm no expert, but i believe that you can be prosecuted for traveling abroad to commit any act that is illegal at home. including smoking a joint.
but, that being said, if the law is applied carefully (such as to sick fucks like ****s) then maybe we can live with it. i have no sympathy for seljan. who cares if he's an old man. just means he's been a criminal for a long time.
fd[/quote]the only times you can be prosecuted abroad is if you are military and the us goverment has a sofa (status of forces agreement) with the host nation or if there is damage to us property or personnel during offical business. that being said if some sick pervert molested a child and vidoe taped it and then brought the tape back to the us, the us could has the host goverment to assume juristiction and prosicute on behalf of thehost goverment. but as far as smoking a joint, your safe
Gentlemen,
Most of you do not know Domino well. Just keep in mind that he's an "off the beaten track" kinda guy.
Dom,
What do like to do during the day ? Are you a diver, a beach bum or do you prefer inland jungle locales ?
Three areas close to Manila that come to mind are: Puerto Galera, Boracay and Iba (north of Subic in Zambales province). PG has good diving and nightlife but shitty beaches, Boracay has beautiful beaches some OK diving but limited lady action. Iba has peace and quiet, beautiful beaches and no nightlife (but Subic City is 30/45 minutes away).
You might want to consider Cebu as well, but having never been there, I'll defer to my fellow posters.
Hope this helps. PM me at will.
FD
Firedick
Thanks for that. Quite a while ago, Posterlion wrote a proposed 1-2week initnerary in the Thai board, which was very highly appreciated by a large number of respondents.
I am more into cultural and political things, believe it or not. to gettng a feel of the place and getting closse, but not too close to the people there. I have already gone north from Manila and this time I feel the urge to go south to Mindanau where the security situation could be better. I also don't want to end up stranded from Manila for my return.
Puerto Galera: too many US retirees?
Boracay: too popular?
Iba: been there.
Is it possible to pick up good or interesting travel deals in Manila?
Mindanau seems to be the magnet but I don't want to do jungle treks etc with dudes who will hold me to ransom for a looong time.
Domino,
You'll find Davao with enough things to do and the girls are more affordable. Just how "off the beaten track" would you like to explore. Nature, Historic or Leisure?
Funny, I let the other guys know you're an "off the beaten track" guy then I post suggested places that are just the oposite. Idiot !
Anyway, PG does not have too many retirees. Not like Angeles or Subic, but does have VERY large numbers of transient tourists. Same can be said of Boracay.
Sorry I was of no help. Further south you'll have to get help from the other guys here.
Good luck.
FD
Outside chance I'll be there. I'll let you know.
Deep Diver,
I was referring to being prosecuted upon returning to the states. The host country has nothing to do with it. The "knucklehead" arrested at LAX will be prosecuted for breaking US laws while being in the Philippines, as was the old man Seljan.
Where do you dive ? I am "Jonesing" to get out to the Similans (Thailand).
FD
[color=blue][b]Firedick[/b][/color]
Whilst you explained the US situation, the position from Europe is that all EU countries are signed up to prosecute any paedophiles caught committing a crime in another country (ie having sex with minors) can be prosecuted at home. Throughout Asia, Africa and much of the developing world it is still rear for them to prosecute foreigners for paedophile activity. These countries tend to just expel paedophiles, because to bring a successful prosecution you need conclusive proof added to the fact that in some place corruption is rife.
However, the European Union, which was 13 now up to 20 countries will prosecute anyone going overseas to commit such crimes and I believe, they will also prosecute where there is “intent” to commit such act, basing it on the fact if they do this overseas then they will surely do it home. Whilst in the UK have been slow to prosecute in the past as the media highlighted a case of some guy who had been kicked out of Cambodia and the Philippines several times and nothing happened to him, but I know other countries in Europe have successfully prosecuted people.
But be rest assured if you were going overseas to smoke a bit of weed or take drugs you are not going to be arrested for that no matter how much drugs you intended to consume. If that were the case, then Amsterdam would have been closed down, long ago. But if you are planning to import it back home this is a different matter.
[color=blue][b]Domino[/b][/color]
From Manila’s domestic airport you are within 60-90 minutes of most of the country, due to the various airlines now operating in the country, its really up to you where and what you want as the Philippines has much to offer.
Mindanoa I have been there three times since 1987 and have stayed with a local family in their home and survived on well water for brushing my teeth with no ill-effect whatsoever. However, when I was first there it was only the NPA that I had to worry about and they didn’t bother me, but now with [i]Abu seif[/i] amongst other groups operating in the area and with the spread of these ideas of kidnapping which is now seen as a business (a good way to make money and raise the profile of your cause) you need to be careful. My advice is to stick to the larger cities.
[color=blue][b]Juniour[/b][/color]
I think I might head for Palawan. I read the US and British government warnings [url]http://www.fco.gov.uk/servlet/Front?pagename=OpenMarket/Xcelerate/ShowPage&c=Page&cid=1095423800990[/url]
Mindanau seems a drag (don't go to the north, south, east or central:(;) or at least getting beheaded after being held in some jungle shit heap there does. Palawan by plane seems a good bet as long as there is no repeat of that mass kidnapping and murder of a few years ago. Tourism there seems dead so maybe I can help as long as I don't die. Again my best bet seems to be to go to Manila and play it from there. Any ideas?
Dont give up on Mindinao so fast. Davao is still quite safe, has a night life, and great beaches. Palawan also has some great resorts but they are on the pricey end of the scale and the night life is not as good.
If you think Borocay is to well travelled then think about Bohol just a bit further south. Puerta Galeria is also fine and makes for a great weekend out of Manila.
All of the above are easily accessable through Manila, which any respectable Manyuk should spend at least a night or two mongering in.
Juniour,
While what you say is correct, I feel that I must have been taken out of context. I was merely lamenting the fact that, while not acted upon, the laws exist to go after "normal" mongers like us. And, if the authorities wanted to, recreational drug users such as those who go to Amsterdam or elsewhere, could be prosecuted as well. Thankfully, our "crimes" have not been a high priority as of yet.
I would never travel with MJ.
FD
[quote] I was merely lamenting the fact that, while not acted upon, the laws exist to go after "normal" mongers like us.[/quote]
[color=blue][b]Firedick[/b][/color]
You almost had me worried there for a minute; I had to check that it wasn’t a late April 1st joke. But take my advice on this, going overseas to have sex with women of a legal age, who are not coerced into this profession or physically abused is not an offence. I know there are some women’s and religious groups who wish there were such laws in place.
But no one is dictating to me where and when I stick my dick and how I spend my money on my vacation.
[color=blue][b]Juniour[/b][/color]
Junior and Firedick,
It is my understanding that the law states that if you break USA laws in another country, matters not the laws in the foreign country, they can prosecute you in the USA if they can prove the offense took place, if you are a citizen of the USA.
Now I'm no lawyer, although I would love to play one on TV someday, prostitution is legal in the great state of Nevada in certain cities. I believe that this would then make trying to prosecute you for engaging in the activity in another country hard to prosecute.
That said, I also believe that the law in the Philippines also prohibits this activity and the local law enforcement only ignores the law?
I know in Hong Kong it is ignored as the law is that a girl can offer herself independently, but there are laws against being a pimp or owning a brothel. Of course they overlook this there as well, but do bust some of the pimps from time to time.
As we all know, this law was enacted to catch those who truly commit offensive acts. Especially acts against children. The good thing about this is that since this act is considered to be offensive by the majority of people of all societies all over the world, even trying to accomplish this act overseas takes some covert communication, which should result in a trail for a good cyber detective to uncover or good detective work to uncover. That is how they have so far caught and prosecuted those in the USA. Not by just having evidence from the country where the offense had taken place or was to take place.
Now what I am about to write is maybe a stretch, but it show the hypocrisy of the law sometimes. We all know that there are USA corporations involved with manufacturing in other countries using children for manufacturing jobs that would be illegal in the USA. So why aren't all the DA's all over the good ole USA lining up the executives of these companies to prosecute for these offensives. It should be very easy to prove and prosecute. That would also limit the moving of jobs over seas quite a bit. Not that I'm approving or disapproving of corporations doing that. I have mixed emotions on this subject, but in my opinion, if you like paying less than US $100.00 for a DVD player than you can't really be in support of limiting companies in the USA from moving their work force off shore.
On another note, Firedick? I have always wondered what your name refers to?
Where I am from to have a firedick is not such a good thing? lol?
Be safe and have fun.
FF
A very interesting conversation going on here. The US has the Protection Act which allows the federal government to prosecute "Sex Tourism". Currently the definition of "Sex Tourism" is having sex with someone under 18 years old.
Intriguing that they didn't call it "Sex Exploitation of Minors" or some similar term that made it clear they were going after child molestors. Down the road, all it will take is a simple amendment of the definition to change it's focus from minors to say, any sexual activity illegal where you reside in the US. That would be a fairly easy sell to a conservative congress. Simply makes it so that you have to behave overseas much as you are expected to behave at home.
Note that the defense has to prove that there was reason to believe the partner was of legal age. Given that most of us that read the threads here are aware that there are readily available false ID's would, in the hands of a skillful prosecutor, work against us in court. We know that ID's may be false. A reasonable individual then cannot use them as a refuge, or so the prosecutor would argue. And it would be up to the jury (or judge) to decide if it made a whits difference that she flashed you an ID that said she turned 18. It very well might not.
Then there is the two strikes component of the Protection Act. What's that? An automatic life sentence. Say they prosecute you for an alleged offense in Pattaya, get a conviction, and then prosecute you for a separate offense in Phuget a week later, guess what your sentence would be for the second offense. Free room and board for life. No more worrying about your 401K or what Bush will do to the Social Security system.
I do not mean this in any way to be construed as a defense of child explotation, but simply that there are potentially some serious consequences to even the most unintended mistakes. And in a US society that is growing more conservative things are changing.
US Protection Act URL: http://www.worldvision.org/Worldvision/imagelib.nsf/main/US_Law_ChildSexTourism.pdf/$file/US_Law_ChildSexTourism.pdf
Tatoosh
Interesting points guys. I'm going with what I've always done. Just keep it legit aged girls and not worry about it, as Juniour suggests. I just can't believe the feds would be interested in my sex habits abroad. Just not that interesting.
FF,
I am a Hash House Harrier and Firedick is my hash name. I'll PM you details if you're that curious.
FD
[quote=firedick]interesting points guys. i'm going with what i've always done. just keep it legit aged girls and not worry about it, as juniour suggests. i just can't believe the feds would be interested in my sex habits abroad. just not that interesting.
ff,
i am a hash house harrier and firedick is my hash name. i'll pm you details if you're that curious.
fd[/quote]
most of this discussion is much ado about nothing. in the first place the law requires that in order to prosecute someone, the court must first find that the court has jurisdiction over the case. in the case of the "protection act" this is being construed to mean that since the subject accussed is a us citizen, that the court would have jurisdiction, a questionable theory that has yet to stand the test of an actual court case. be that as it may, assume the jurisdictional requirement is met, the next requirement is that a us law would have to be violated. the reason the law targets exploitation of under-age minors is that is a violation of a u.s. federal statute, having indiscriminant sex even under the terms of prositution is not, hence examples such as nevada where it is perfectly legal. it is the state, not the defense which has to prove the "exploited party" was **** as suggested in an earlier posting. for the state to prove that, the offense will either have to be extremly notorious (read a really stupid idea in the first place) or the state will have to come up with some interesting incentive to the would be "victim" to prove its case, which offers up a huge opportunity for a good defense attorney, and at the same time opens the door to some back-door immigration which will not settle well with the same parties who whould like to close down overseas nookie in the first place.
in summary if you just behave reasonably as far as your search for exotic delights, and admit nothing and deny everything if accused, you stand little chance of trouble with the application of this law. if on the other hand you are a target of the feds for some other reason, this is just one more harrassment tool available to them. i would worry far more about some local parasite police doing his usual shake down than i would about being a potential victim of this particular law.
now can we get back to our more informative issues of mongering in general?
Jakers,
This subject has been beaten to death as well as the "law" issue. Normally, I'd just give you a "RTFF" and you should. But:
Used cell phones are cheap and available. Prepaid time is also cheap.
I am "cell phone challenged" so I keep two Nokias (3300 series). One for Thailand and one for the Philppines and just buy new minutes when I return. If I'm gone a long time, such as now, I have to buy a new SIM card as well. But it can be a plus to get the new number that the new SIm card gives you from time to time.
Calling the states from the RP with prepaid minutes is very cheap.
FD
Hi Jackson,
I would like to ask you if you could open a hotel section here. It would be helpful.
Thanks in Advance
Sting
My first visit to the islands was one of wonder. Decent motel, decent food, decent time. However, this place is an environmental hell hole!! Trash is everwhere, children begging in the streets running naked etc. The storms are horrible and and the smell is one you don't forget. There are some very nice places in the Philippines but jeez they are usually behind walls. If the Philippines are SO great then why don't they clean it up and make something of it? If the environment is beyond description just think about the pussy you are buying. AIDS is rampant in Asia. Oh well be safe and double bag yourself.
Puff,
Perhaps you should just stay home. Or, perhaps that's the problem. I have my doubts that you've ever been to the Philippines. Nobody here is moved by your "heart felt" warnings.
FD
Although not to tactful, pretty close to the truth.
Puff,
Double bagging is considered less safe than using a single, actually. If you want to continue your preaching, perhaps the safe sex forum is more appropriate for this. BTW HIV is not "rampant" in the Philippines.
[color=blue][b]puff [/b][/color]
whilst there is no single answer to this question here are a couple of factors to take into consideration.
the country is faced with debts of around 40% of it’s national income.
many of its state run industries power, farming etc are very inefficient (still too many brownouts), haemorrhaging money and not brining in the revenue it could be, as in other countries.
added to this the country is forced to take out further loans to meet its current day-to-day commitments, corruption is rampant, illegal logging etc so the money it should receive through taxation is reduced because many major corporations are looking at ways to avoid paying taxes, there is currently a shortfall of p80 billion in tax revenue.
remember this is a country that still relies heavily on the remittances from its overseas worker, just like the dominican republic. poverty and inequality are widespread throughout the country the gap between rich and the poor is large, there is no halfway house here.
so on top of this all when faced with natural disasters, like the typhoons that has just hit the country, recently you can understand why the president is not too focused on cleaning up the open sewers in the shanty towns rep001tered around manila, luzon and the country when she will now have to find money to replace damaged bridges, broken power lines and provide fertiliser to the many rural farms that have just had their top soil washed away and consider importing food to meet the short fall in their food needs within the next few months.
whilst there is no conclusive answer to your question but this allows you to see the problems they face. i once suggested that the easiest way to help the country was to rent different islands to another countries, for example singapore has plenty of assets and skills in business development, but not enough land, resources or labour if they took over cebu for a short lease of 50 years you would see some major improvements – but the only problem with this idea is as the island becomes more prosperous it draws people from less developed parts of the country and unless its managed properly it becomes uncontrollable. plus, many philippinos would not be too happy with this idea.
on the aids situation i am certainly not qualified to comment on the current situation.
[color=blue][b]juniour[/b][/color]
I would add to Juniour's excellent analysis that the population growth rate here is out of control, and, this being a Catholic country, the notion of family planning is not going to take hold anytime soon. The economy, although growing at a rate of 5-6% cannot expand quickly enough to create jobs for the burgeoning number of workers entering the labor force every year. Also, given the Government's chronic cash shortfalls, it cannot afford to invest in Education, so the Philippines lages further and further behind in this investment as well. It's a vicious cycle that's compounded by corruption, inequitable distribution of wealth and sporadic social unrest.
Fellas,
I will arrive in Manila on Sat Jan 8 for a nine-day stay. It will be my fourth visit in recent years. I would like to visit Siargao Island in Mindanao because the beaches and surfing are supposed to be good. Does anyone have any info on the girlie scene there? Or the lack thereof?
Its kind of critical because if I have no monger info I'll probably take two girls from EDSA with me for the week--something I've never done before, and quite a committment on my part, I might add. The alternative would be to spend a week in the Phils with no action--kind of ridiculous considering I'm coming all the way from New York.
Any info appreciated.
Also, if any other guys will be in Manila drop me a pm and we'll hook up. Through a Cathay Pacific special, I'll be staying at the Mandarin Oriental in Makati for $77 a night!
hey don,
i can't tell you what it is like finding girls in siargao. i can tell you that some of the most beautiful women i have met come from sairgao. my experience has been that it can be a drag if you assume you will find someone in the provinces and you don't. some places it is easy, and some places it is not. depends on your personality as well.
what i suggest, as you have 9 days, land in manila. first night go to la cafe and see if you find someone you fancy. if not go to angeles the next night. stay at orchard inn. find the girl you love and ask her to go with you for a few days, let’s say two nights. after the two nights you can ask her to stay on, or if you see other opportunities, send her home.
this will ensure that you keep your options open, a filipino tradition. going to la or angeles will also keep the prices down. if you pick up a girl in a makati burgos bar you can do the same, but it will cost you more.
be sure to ask the oriental, before you arrive, if your room includes high speed internet access. else they charge $20 per night for it.
Buy a Smart SIM and load upon arrival. SMS your number to your relatives in the States. Have them use [url]http://www.chikka.com/[/url] to text with you. It will save you and them pesos. Also you can use it when you return to keep up with your new friends.
[QUOTE=jakers]I need some advice on cell phones in the Philippines.
A buddy and I will be in Manila for about a week and I want to have a mobile phone with me in order to stay in contact with the ladies that we meet during our stay. Should I bring my own phone or buy one while I'm there? My mobile service Sprint (USA) uses GSM technology and my buddy uses CDMA. I would also like to use the phone to stay in contact with family in the US. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
J[/QUOTE]The problem is that unless your cell phone is a tri-band phone it wont work here. In the U.S. cell phones use 19000 Mhz and in some cases 900 Mhz (GSM), while in the PI cell phones use 18000 Mhz (and in some cases 900 Mhz). Most cell phones tend to be dual band exceot for the high end models which can handle all three frenquency bands. As for CDMA, it is a different coding scheme all together and is only used in Japan and Korea, so CDMA phones wont work here regardless of the frequency used.
At P1800 for a cell and P200 SIM included (at Greenhills) invest the $35 and buy the throw-away for ue in the PI.
Besides, the pre-paid SIMs offer absolute anonymity as a side benifit.
Happy hunting
Jan 13 I arrive in Manila for my first trip to the Philippines. If anyone is going to be there on the 13th to the 17th or so (before i move on to Cebu) and want to catch up for a few drinks, pm me.
I might buy a cell phone this trip to keep up with the girls. Usually I just buy a phone card for the four or five daily calls back to the States.
I had an interesting experience while booking this trip. I searched the dates that I wanted to go, on Travelocity, among others. Consistently, I was quoted a fare from New York to Manila via Hong Kong, of $1300+. I tried to book it online but kept getting an error message. So I called Cathay Pacific direct. They charged me only $980!! I always thought that it cost more if you called the airlines direct.
Don
We in the travel industrie can help find the lowest rates . Just call a travel agent next time you need to fly. The internet is not always the cheapest way to go.
Ticket prices depend on availability.
IF you are buying a seat thru an on-line agency (Travelocity, Expedia, among others) the cost and availability is based on inventory listed by THE AIRLINE ITSELF and aside from the agency fee, the price will be the same whether you go direct or thru the agency - word of caution, though - some itineraries available thru the net are not exactly available thru the airlines (it happens - you might have to jump thru ALL the hoops to get THAT fare).
The way to get generally consistently lower fares is to go thru a consolidator - otherwise called a "bucket shop" - (but you might have a problem with getting credit for the frequent flier miles, if that's important to you)
I know that in Thailand, I went thru an agency for a Thai air ticket BKK-Chiang Mai (promo fare) for less than it would have cost over the net (3200B RT - in OCT) They (Thai) still operate on "commission" so no added fee.
Northwest Airlines is having a sale on web fares to certain cities in Asia. Tickets must be purchased by Dec. 14, for travel begining Dec. 24 through Jan. 31, 2005. All travel must be completed by March 2, 2005. My internet fare to HK from Detroit was only $700! So get up off it and book those tickets asap!
Any Brits tried to get a tourist visa for their Filipino GF?
I've read that the embassy ask for bank statements.
Any one know more about this?
I going to add my information and experience here as well.
I have found the best way is to use the Internet and use it well.
Check the services as Dinghy has advised and also check the airline web sites. Neither the Airline web site or the on line agency, i.e., Travelocity, will list completely all the flights available all the time.
This is for international travel and domestic travel
I have found and purchased tickets on Travelocity for AA that when I checked the AA web site or called AA direct they could not find or quote and vise versa and I am a member of the AA Platinum Frequent Flier program.
This has also been true for Delta, Northwest and others.
Once I found a ticket on Travelocity and their site was so slow that day that I became inpatient and called Delta direct to book the flight.
The ticket was $100.00 cheaper when I booked it with the agent over the phone.
FF
Hello Mongers.
My american friend wants to marry a nice filapina that he met on the internet. He is very determined to do so! They want to live in the US. Should he marry her in the Philippines and then apply for the visa? Or is it better to apply for a fiancee visa and marry in the US?
He wants to marry her in the Philippines because she will not have sex with him until after they marry, and he is very anxious to get into her knickers.
He does not have much money and only a small income. What will the embassy require of them? Any advice to help these two love birds make their nest will be very much appreciated.
No, she is not a bargirl. Thank you and Merry Mongering! from Santa
[QUOTE=Santa]Hello Mongers.
My american friend wants to marry a nice filapina that he met on the internet. He is very determined to do so! They want to live in the US. Should he marry her in the Philippines and then apply for the visa? Or is it better to apply for a fiancee visa and marry in the US?
He wants to marry her in the Philippines because she will not have sex with him until after they marry, and he is very anxious to get into her knickers.
He does not have much money and only a small income. What will the embassy require of them? Any advice to help these two love birds make their nest will be very much appreciated.
No, she is not a bargirl. Thank you and Merry Mongering! from Santa[/QUOTE]
So the filipina will not have sex w/ him until after they are married. Good for her and Bad for him. Why does he want to marry her - is the most important question (LOVE or SEX)? If sex, then just visit the PI for a week and get laid big time. If love, the quickest way to bring her to the USA is apply for a Fiancee Visa (about 6 months till she gets there) which my cousin did when her married his wife. Marrying in the PI and then applying for the spouse visa will take about 12-18 months till she gets there. His choice.
Fiance visa is still a bit quicker, about 6 months vs. 9 months for a spousal visa (best cases). Both could take longer.
[quote]
Any Brits tried to get a tourist visa for their Filipino GF?
I've read that the embassy ask for bank statements.
Any one know more about this?
[/quote]
[color=blue][b]Cows Rule[/b][/color]
I would suggest that you check out the web site and follow the instructions;
[url]www.ukvisas.gov.uk/servlet/Front?pagename=OpenMarket/Xcelerate/ShowPage&c=Page&cid=1006977149962[/url]
Generally, if you have a legitimate reason for her visit tourism or other you should have no problem.
[I] (Please don’t ask me to define what is meant by “legitimate”)[/I]
[color=blue][b]Juniour[/b][/color]
Thanks guys. We hope to be in the Philippines soon, so watchout for the fella with a big beer belly and red nose.
Do you know why Santa is so jolly? It's because he knows where the bad girls live!!! Ho! Ho! Ho!
1) What is the national language of the Philippines, I speak Spanish and English, will I be understood?
2) What are the best months to go?
3) How do I protect myself from any STD's?
4) Is it safe to go by myself?
5) If you meet a P4P girl, can you stay with her for 3 days, or is it just for the night.
I'm sure your post will elicit several responses, and most of the answers to your questions are probably provided multiple times on this Board. However, the brief answers are as follows:
1. The National Language is Tagalog, though most Filipinos speak several local dialects as well. From Jr. Secondary School onwards, the langauge of instruction is English, so almost everyone speaks at least some English. Spanish is not spoken widely.
2. The best time to go depends where you're going. The Philippines, with it's 7,000+ islands, covers alot of territory. For me, the best time in the Mindanao/Visayas Region is December through February, when it's cooler. April is the warmest month here in Mindanao.
3. The degree of your safety also depends on where you are. In general, the Philippines is reasonably safe and if you use common sense and a little prudence, you should experience no difficulty.
4. STD monitoring here is at best sporadic and no one really knows the extent of the problem though the official Government line is that there's no major problem. Protecting one's self is easy. Use a condom. Always.
5. With some exceptions, the girls will go with you for as long as you want them, be it an hour or several weeks. Girls who work in clubs though, must pay a penalty for every day they do not work, so you should factor this into your cost projections.
Probably the first thing you need to decide, if you're planning to come here, is where you want to be.
GE
Player33,
15% of Tagalog is composed of Spanish loan words. So you'll pick out quite a few words you know, like reloj for watch, cerveza for beer, the days of the week, numbers and the telling of time. But in general you won't understand the general discourse.
There is a dialect called Chavacano, spoken around Zamboanga. It's said to be mostly understood by Spanish speakers. However, Zamboanga isn't such a recommended destination for the monger.
I was reading today that Japan is set to drastically slash the number of entertainment visas given to Filipinas, from something like 80,000 to 8,000. Hmm, 72,000 extra Filipinas out of luck and stuck in the Philippines. The WSG brotherhood should make efforts to comfort these poor girls, give them a soft landing as it were.
The speculation in the press here is that the Japanese capitulated to pressure brought by the US, to stem the tide of "sex trafficing." There's been quite a lively debate in the local press about whether the entertainers know what they're getting into and should thus be left alone to ply their trade, or whether the whole thing is just a masquerade for prostitution, the women are being exploited, and the whole thing should be shut down.
Even the President here has gotten involved, and it's become a hot foreign policy issue.
As of last Sept i spend half the year in Cebu for work. I've been here 3.5 months since Sept. I've messaged with I think almost 100 girls through filipinoheart.com and met scores. Trouble is I'm married, so this method does not work very well for getting laid. My wife is never able to come to the Phils 'cause of her work back home so I'm alone for 2 months here-- my SOB story if I were not to get laid for 2 months.
It is VERY easy for me to have girls here attracted to me, but of course it's too much work to go beyond friends cause they know I'm married and I won't lie.
I've spent too much money in bars so that's not my thing anymore.
Question: it would seem to me that "adultfriendfinder" would be a great place to meet freelancers in Cebu. Anyone have ideas about that. If it's true for Manila than probably also for Cebu. Angeles is another story. There are "freelancers" posting all over the dating sites from Angeles.
Because of the forum being down, I have not been able to post anything new about my trip to the Philippines. My memory is pretty sketchy at best. I stayed there for about 2 weeks, staying mainly in Makati and Manila.
For those who have not yet been to the Ayala Center, it seems that area of Makati is part of the US. I couldn't believe the Greenbelt area. People kept on going to these restaurants until about 2 am, and they are going to wake and go to work around 7 am. For those interested, freelancers tend to sit in front of the Starbucks near Cafe Havana. If somebody smiles at you, they are working girls. I was able to pick up 2 girls and bring them to my hotel across the street at the Manila Pen for 8,000 pesos.
All the hotels in the area are used to seeing freelancers go up in the room with their guests. At the Manila Pen, the lobby serves as a restaurant as well. It was kind of funny when I had something to eat there after a night on the town to see a number of good looking women in sexy clothing exit the area without any escort. You can guess what they have been doing. This was a daily occurrence.
For those interested, there is a web site of all the establishments that is owned by the company which owns Starfleet, Pegasus, and Don Palacio, among others. This is ktvphil.com. It has all the addresses of the various places that they own, including those that I just mentioned.
The girl at the front of the website, Wyn, is a especially nice girl and a mixed Filipina and Mexican. After she gave me the Thai massage at Starfleet, we just did it on the wet mattress and did not bother going to the bed. Talk about a soapy experience.
In addition, for those who have the cell phone numbers of the girls, there is a web site called chikka.com whereby one can text them for free, rather than paying for a long distance call or emailing them.
What happened to the Angeles topic? Did they just forget to start one for 2005?
I'll be arriving in May, with some buddies and Im anxious to read some fresh reports!
O.D.
I plan on going to AC in a few months, maybe in April 2005, I'm looking to meet someone there so I hang out. If anyone plans on going to AC in mid April please let me know.
I just got an 4 month assignment in Cebu. I was in The Philippines 20 years ago and loved it. Let's hope this 50 year old can still handle the 20 year olds. I'm looking forward to a lot of fun and lots of mongering.
Most of my experience lately has been in Argentina and Costa Rica.
I've read a lot of the posts on PI, but want to ask a few questions.
I think I read that I can get Viagra or Cialis easily, right?
Any good shopping, like for clothes or electronics (MP3 player, digital camera, etc.)? I'm wondering if I should buy in the States and bring them, or buy them locally.
Can I get a cell phone and receive calls from the US? Make calls to the US with calling card at reasonable rates? Would it be the type with a SIM card?
Looking forward to contributing to the forum. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Dboy]I just got an 4 month assignment in Cebu. I was in The Philippines 20 years ago and loved it. Let's hope this 50 year old can still handle the 20 year olds. I'm looking forward to a lot of fun and lots of mongering.
Most of my experience lately has been in Argentina and Costa Rica.
I've read a lot of the posts on PI, but want to ask a few questions.
I think I read that I can get Viagra or Cialis easily, right?
Any good shopping, like for clothes or electronics (MP3 player, digital camera, etc.)? I'm wondering if I should buy in the States and bring them, or buy them locally.
Can I get a cell phone and receive calls from the US? Make calls to the US with calling card at reasonable rates? Would it be the type with a SIM card?
Looking forward to contributing to the forum. Thanks.[/QUOTE]
You will need a script for Viagra, but Cialis can be bought over the counter. The price for a tablet is about $10.
As for electronic goods, it is cheaper to buy in the States rather than the PI. I went to SM and the prices there for a good name brand, i.e. Panasonic, Sony, etc., cost more. As for clothes, it is more advantageous to buy in the Philippines.
I don't know much about the cell phone situation. Hopefully, others can answer that question.
Can anyone recommend a reputable dentist in either Manila or AC. Planning to be in the PIs for about a month and could use the time for some maintenance and cosmetic works, cost an arm and leg in the states when you don't have insurance. Really appreciate the helps
This is what I have found in response to Dboy's inquiries. Others may differ.
Sundevil was right on with electronics. Better, cheaper in US. MP3 are still a novelty and expensive in PI, but they are also a target for theft. I recommend bringing the cheapest stuff in case you want to give it away or it is permanently borrowed. A $35 portable CD player is a great easy gift for any friends in PI.
Per phones, buy one in country. You can splurge on a triband that will work anywhere in the world and they start at $300 and up. It would be a target for someone to borrow, however. I recommend getting the cheapest Nokia (around $70) and a SIM card ($4) and go from there. The one I got is the best phone I have ever used and it works all over Asia if you get different SIM cards.You will learn to text like a champ. Also, have someone show you how to send load for as we all know, filipinas are either "low batt" or "no load."
You may also want to consider getting two SIM cards (i.e two different phone numbers). One for work and the other for fun. Sometimes you will get bombarded with text messages and this can be a pain unless it is from someone you truly want to hear from alot.
No prescriptions are needed except for controlled substances in the PI. It will be very helpful to have your doc at home write a prescription for the pharmacists in the PI for any pharmaceuticals including Viagra, Cialis or Levitra. It is also quite inexpensive and easy to see a doctor in the Philippines as compared to the United States.
Thanks Golazo and Sun Devil . . .
. . . for the advice. I’ll bring my own MP3. They keep getting cheaper. On my next trip, a month later, I may bring several for gifts.
The phone situation seems to be pretty simple and inexpensive. I've got the Vitamin V script, just in case.
Hope to meet many of you in the next 5 months.
If you've got a little time before you go, I would highly recommend [url]www.rx-mex.net[/url] as a good source for Viagra, Cialis and Levitra. No script needed. I've been buying there for about a year and a half and have saved a shitload of money. The generic Viagra goes for about $3 per pill and is of high quaility. Same for generic C and L. They also have a deal that if you can find generic V, C or L cheaper on the net, they will match the price plus take off another 5%.
I have been using rx-mex as my source. the prices seem to be the best.
O.D.
Colombia again or the Philippines?
I spent a week last month in Cartagena in Colombia, where if you need pussy all you have to do is inhale. It was so good I'd like to make it a regular stop in my mongering tours. I really recommend this place for you Asia lovers who are looking for a change of pace. It has abundant numbers of pros and non-pros, and all shapes and sizes. There's even good wife material, for those of you who are mad enough to be considering this step.
So June to August I have another 8 weeks to play with and it's a tough choice deciding where to go. I'd love to see other places in Colombia, like Medellin, where a lot of the girls in Cartagena actually come from. And of course there's the rest of South America to be explored. But in the end I guess I'll fall back into old habits.
The Philippines still has the best combination of price, quality, GFE and almost everything else. It's also a lot closer to here in the UAE. To South America from here takes half of forever. Also, I can make that detour into Burma that I've been wanting to do.
It's good to have lots of choices in places to go. But it's also frustrating not to be able to go to each place as often as one would want. I look forward to seeing some fellow mongers in the Philippines this summer.
[QUOTE=Columpuss]Can anyone recommend a reputable dentist in either Manila or AC. Planning to be in the PIs for about a month and could use the time for some maintenance and cosmetic works, cost an arm and leg in the states when you don't have insurance. Really appreciate the helps[/QUOTE]I don't know about AC. But for Manila recommending a dentist depends a bit on where in Manila you intend to be, as it covers a fairly large area. That said, I can recommend highly the dentists who take care of my child (4yrs) & her mother. Initially I stayed to monitor their treatment but that proved uneccessary as the dentists (we used two) were quite competent.
Curiously the office name is the White House Optical/Dental Clinics (it's a mini chain with offices in several malls). It is a hybird shop because the owners are a Dentist married to an Optician!
There are several locations: Sampaloc, Sta. Mesa, Mandaluyong & the Fairview SM. PM me if you think exact addresses & #'s would be helpful.
Sir James
Golazo is correct in his statement about electronics, though I have found one exception. In Manila, directly across from the Dusit Hotel, there's a one level mall called Plaza One, which is devoted to electronics. It has dozens of stores, selling all of the newest gizmos, and the prices are quire competitive with Hong Kong, the States, and others centers of electronic commerce. I bought a blue tooth head phone and a nice pair of Senheiser phones for my MP3 player there last week. These places also sell the range of IPOD players, and the prices are slightly less than I found in the US.
GE
Columpuss,
In regards to your post about dentist in Manila, I can recommend a dentist office in Malate that I have been to. The facilities and dental work were excellent, better than anything I ever had in the US (and definately better than what I had in the US navy). It is the dental office of Dr. Bolanos, located on the 5th floor of the Magsaysay building along Roxas. It is across from the Manila Diamond Hotel. The dentists there were excellent, I heard the US Ambassador goes there. I work for a US govt org, so they send us there as well.
Best wishes.
I submited a profile on Filipinaheart.com as a total newbie 2 weeks ago saying that I would be in Cebu in 2 weeks and entered my age range as looking for an 18-20 year old. No photo was added (don't know how to do it) and a general line of 'I'm coming to Cebu and would like to meet someone nice during my stay'. I was honest about my age (less than 40 but not by much) and honest about the type of girl that I was looking for 'clean, happy, likes being spoilt and good listener/talker'.
Anyway, I nailed it all down to two that seemed to fit the requirements / liked the photos of, both girls were 18 and both looking only for a friend. I met one one night, and the next the following night. Rose (1st night) I liked immediately so gave her lots of attention whilst we had tea with her cousin in the lobby (this seemed a better idea than the bar of course). Her cousin was interesting, and I made my excuse to leave to make a call to HQ from my room. Of course I called Rose instead and asked if we could talk in private in my room and would she come up for a chat. Which went well, with the right ground work sort of spelled out and she left asking if we could meet the next day.
However, I met Joann the next night whilst messaging Rose during the day to show that I was VERY interested to meet the following day before I left Cebu. I also spelt out in a reply message to her my exact intentions of going to bed with her if we did meet again the next day as she'd asked. She agreed!
She turned up at Waterfront on time to meet me for lunch, wearing a very pretty dress and a pearl necklace (hehe) and looked fantastic drinking a glass of wine and eating a superb pizza in a deserted lunchtime La Gondola restaurant. I think we caused a stir with her being 18, drinking wine and dressed for an evening out at midday, but we loved it.
She was absolutely wild when her clothes were off and I was apprently only the second guy that she had slept with, whilst also being the first foreigner! (yes, of course I used a condom). She was absolutely lovely and it was a fantastic way to get laid.
I gave her some money of course, which she refused, so I put it in her bag when she wasn't looking. I also brought her a nice red lipstick in the duty free shop in the lobby for P.500 which was probably more for my benefit and which looked fantastic on her as she sucked my little head like a lolly.
I'll probably end up sending her an 'exam' fee here and there, but I'm also likely to be back in Cebu soon so win/win imho.
Faulk,
Good job, nice report, your not a cheap charlie and you treated them well. I hope other guys do the same. We all need that attitude when we visit.
LK
Hello,
Maybe I spend too much time on the photos page because I didn't realize there was such good information here in the "general" section.
I have a specific question. Last year during holiday I bought a used phone in Cebu City (based on advice I got here). Well, it was very good advice.
I live in Tokyo where we have a completely different cell phone system. When I visit the Philippines in April, will my phone and phone number still be working? Someone told me there is an expiration date on the SIMM. Is that true?
Thanks.
Some mates and I are going to PI in May. One or two of my mates are considering staying longer than allowed for tourists without a visa. Do you think there will be a problem getting the visa for extended stay while in Manila? where do you go to get this done? Fees?
O.D.
How far is Butuan City from Davao? Is Davao the nearest major city? Would any of you visit Butuan City? Is it as safe as Daveo or Cebu City? Any other comments?
[b]J Boy[/b]
Butuan City is somewhere that I am very familiar with, having stayed there a couple of times in a family’s home, fifteen years ago. Personally, I enjoyed the experience and yes I did see a few guys riding around with M16s slung over their shoulders but they always had a warm smile for any tourist who comes down to the place.
You have a couple of options to get there from Cebu, flying which takes around 35 minutes on a noisy turboprop aircraft or the ferry overnight both are relatively inexpensive – but I would suggest that if you are going onto Davao, from Butuan do not travel overland.
PM me if you require any more information.
[color=blue]Juniour[/color]
It is usually not a problem to extend a tourist visa by visiting the Office of Immigration and requesting a 30 day extension. Even overstaying the visa is not much of a problem and requires only the payment of a fairly modest fine at the airport prior to departure.
Why not visit your local book store and read yp on the visa situation in the tour books they sell there? LP warns about problems extending the visa.
Concerning Visa Extensions:
Most travel agents can do this in one or two business days. You pay them a fee, they collect your passport and they take it to the local immigration office, then return it back to you with a stamp in it extending your stay.
Standard stamp you get when you come in the country is 21 days. The travel agent will get additional 38 days to it, bringing it to 59 days. There is a service charge for rush service by the govt (they stand in a different line at the Board of Immigration to process it, you dont have to be there, they send a courier to do it for you), the travel agency will tack on their own processing charge. Its not much and is hassle free.
Then if you need another extension you can do it again. You can daisy chain these up to about 6 months, just go through the process when you get close to expiration. Just plan on getting an extension a week before it expires.
If you forget, you pay a fine at the airport of around 2500 pesos, but that is not the recommended way to do things. Let a travel agent get the extension the legit way. Immigration people have a way of remembering things in this country, and later you may need something and they will find this in their records just when you need it the most.
Regards,
Ricksan
many travel agents within the pi are set up to do the legwork on visa extensions for a small fee. saves much time and hassle. the republic of the philippines is not widely known for ruthless speed and efficiency in the operation of government offices, to put it as tactfully as possible.
tourist visa extensions are routine for up to a year, and many thousands of people live there permanently this way, making only a brief annual "visa run" to bangkok or hong kong to re-enter as tourists again for another year of regular "extensions."
i find that recent editions of the philippines version of lonely planet are often wrong about practically everything.
cebu local is a helpful guy who's information has been trustworthy on these forums for a long time, and he happens to be a travel agent. if he sees this and feels like commenting i would trust his remarks, but i have lived there for six months at a time on extensions of a tourist visa, and found it easier than sending my clothes out to be laundered when using a local travel agent who is set up to process batches of these things.
After 4 travels to the beachgirls of Pattaya I went to Malagasy and Dominican republic, but was disappointed; pain in the ass doing anything in Malagasy with girls I met more pro than GF, still worse in RD because of rough and gready girls asking me 60USD for a ST (with no picture and no possibility to bring them in my hotel, so I took none!...).
I noticed lot of cute talkative Philippina ladies on the net, however most seem only looking for husband. Some claim they only want to be friend ; are they likely to be hookers as you can find somany in Thailand?
I feel closer to them because they speak better american , so I would be rather tempted to go to PI.
Angeles seems close, will I find freelancers as on Pattaya beach? will they allow pictures? (malagasy girls were very reluctant); and as I'm not a great monger (2 ST a day), what other leisure or trips are available during the day in AC?
After, I want to visit Visayas 1 week with some mongering during at night; which cities are the best for that ; I look for cheap hotels with lot of GF girls around as in Pattaya. If I have to take bargirls, what are the prices? is prostitution illegal? is it safe to walk at night (in Antananarivo, it's risky).
Davao seems another option , but I fear muslims attacks , and as it's very large, can I find hotel with girls near too?
I know the pavements of pattaya too much, but after my bad experience in RD, I need to take more information , your advices will be useful.
Thanks
My aunt died of hepatitis she got from a Dentist in India. Don't make any jokes about how she got it. She was elderly, wasn't involved in the business. I would warn mongers and travelers that unfortunately even "good" medical practicioners in the 3rd world don't necesarily take what physicians in the US call 'universal precautions." Personally I would aviod medical care in the 3rd world unless completely necesary becuase you could potentially get a deadly disease.
Outside of hookers, viagra and its generics, rip off CDs/DVDS, clothes, is there anything worth buying in the Philippines for personal consumption/use? It feels a shame to go there, where everything seems so cheap and return home with an empty suitcase/backpack? I did buy a bag there with a 3 year guaranteee; I got 3 days out of it. I have noticed some electronics are markedly cheaper (and, most likely, markedly inferior) to what is on offer in Japan. But, as my choice of women attests, I like a bargain.
2300: I have gone to dentists in the Philippines and Thailand and I will go again. Minuscule risk for a clean I think.
Small Butterfly: I guess you will have to go to find out. I posted some information on Davao when the bomb or bombs went off; don't sweat the small stuff. The yahoo chat babes are not p4p, though there is an increasing tendency with some of them tyo go to a private room and jerk off or whatever for you for a small fee. Hookers are too busy for that.
[b]Domino[/b]
[quote] Outside of hookers, viagra and its generics, rip off CDs/DVDS, clothes, is there anything worth buying in the Philippines for personal consumption/use? [/quote]
I would certainly recommend the dried mangos, personally I don’t touch the Viagra and as for the DVDs/CDs or electronic stuff, etc I buy them elsewhere but the dried fruit stuff is good quality and worthy presents to bring back home.
You may also consider the handicrafts of bamboo trays, etc they make excellent presents at Christmas time; oh and don’t forget a bottle of Banana ketchup it always raises a smile.
[color=blue]Juniour[/color]
Juniour, I see you do not buy the cd's or DVD's, how come. I went to the PI and brought a ton of good quality dvd's. I made sure before I brought it the DVD's were not the kind which were filmed with a camcorder. I agree, I would not mess with V since I do not know what it is they put inside or if its reallt V at all. I do plan on buying a ton of shit while I'm over there, but I do not know if customs will allow dried friut to enter the country, do you?
Agreed, there is not much to buy in the Philippines. Two things may interest you. Books are quite cheap. I bought a 2004 US printed Que book on Microsoft XP for 495 Peso at National Bookstore; book showed US price $19.99 / Canada $ 30.99 / UK Ł14.50. Also Batangas coffee is excellent value and great quality. Of course, the women...well you know already.
As far as things to bring home. I just came back from 3 weeks there and I was told the Tanduay Rum is good so I brought 5 bottles of that home for souvenier presents for my kids. Was advised to get the 5 year Gold Seal Dark. Could'nt believe the price. 21 pesos at the Robinsons liquor store in Manila for 375ml. The guy saw them in my carry on at the airport and asked what was in the 5 bottles and I told him I had 5 children and they all like to drink so thats why there were 5 bottles. He just smiled. LOL.
Handicrafts, T-Shirts, custom made shoes and clothes. Dried fruit is OK if sealed; buy it in Cebu or the province since it is more expensive at Robinsons in MNL. I also like Baguio Coffee and the Batangas (there's some "Brothers" <Monks> coffee from Butuan, but not crazy about it.
P.S. You can only bring 1 woman home at a time and it takes about 1 year, LOL. Ah, the dried mangos are gone, but she is still here, I'm happy to say.
Gents
One can get ok silver hand crafted via the good nuns at St Louis, Baguio.
I found the DVDs/CDs at Quiapo to be very very cheap, much cheaper than Thailand, but I did not buy any. Nearly all porno, which, as a paid up member of the Moral Majoritym bores me, and some good movies but I had seen any I wanted to see.
I guess the only people who come out ahead here are guys with set hobbies such as diving, where they can shop till they drop, knowing thye will use the stuff all year round.
The tourist stuff looks gauche when one brings it back to base, I think. Banana ketchup might raise a smile, but so does everything else.
Lonely Planet and such like go on about big makrets but who wants all the tourist trinket shit they sell? Not
John T Domino, patron to the hookers of SE Asia and beyond,
Yes, the Tanduay Rum is GOOD stuff.
About five years ago I took an EDSA girl with me to the mall. I was looking at back packs and she highly recommended the ones by Illustrazio, which I believe are made in the Philippines. They were more expensive than the others, but i took her advice.
I still have that bag and it shows very little wear and tear despite having a lot of mileage. Also, I never experienced the problem that is mentioned in this article:
[url]http://www.ironwulf.net/inmotion/tarak/07_running_under_sun.html[/url]
And what might be a good gift to bring for a lady?
I asked one of the ladies and she said, "a wedding ring". You have to admire her honesty.
This is a long way to come for a few bottles of rum, though the Tanduay Dark is quite good. I notice that no one here has mentioned furniture. If you have the time, you can order really nice stuff at prices that are extremely low. The Batik is also fairly nice, though it's pretty much the same stuff you see in Indonesia. You can also buy most, if not all of the same counterfeit crap you buy in Thailand, Indonesia, Vietnam or elsewhere in the region. Clothes, DVDs, fake rolexes, etc. abound in the cheap markets and on the streets.
This is not what you would call a shopper's paradise, and most of the "snob appeal" merchandise is imported. Even the jewelry comes from China (cheap) or Italy (expensive). There's no local electronics industry to speak of. The high end stuff comes from Europe or Japan and the lower end from Korea or China. Prices are reasonably competitive, but hardly provide a reason to come. Even the diving gear is not a bargain, and most of the stuff I buy locally was actually manufactured in Italy.
Unfortunately, the Philippines' most popular export items tend to be its workers and agricultural products.
GE
Well, I am getting under this ones skin whoever it is.
She or it has a fake pictures on her profile so I immediately send this message to her. I usually do this to all the fake pictures, but rarely get a response.
This is her profile.
[url]http://www.filipinaheart.com/Member_Profile.cfm?CFID=59593718&CFTOKEN=e3c2de56589a47c5-0DC03820-E7FA-E7F3-1A0CEB6C81726F48&ID=49056[/url]
I sent her a message titled "Got ya!" and in the message I put "fake pic"
Here is the response I get:
"If that's your way of getting my attention, then tell me what does fake mean to you. Would it be fare enough if I say you have a fake picture? "Got ya" as you said. I am not hiding anything or covering up from anyone so why is it as if you sounded you found me. On the side note, I am really curious why you are looking for asian women? Can't you find someone of your same race? Perhaps you can't handle american women. True? "
So I respond to her:
Yes, when people on here post fake pictures that is what I do.
Why? Guess? You pretend to be so smart.
Of course you can tell my pictures are real as they are natural pictures. So I do not have to worry about them being mistaken for fake.
Now to give you a little advise about how to react to those you are trying to fool. To respond in anger and then to try to imply that I have some sort of problem meeting women in America or my own race only shows that I am right. Your reaction to being caught is evident by your response.
Of course I can handle American women. I just do not like liars. Like you. So are you even female? How has your scam worked so far.
You will see as in a few days FH will be removing your ad. Then you will have to go out and find another picture to post and you will because of the type of person you are.
It is also funny that you would make such a remark about me seeking an Asian girl. Then wouldn't that same question apply to you and your desire to seek a person outside your culture?
See? You really have to learn to think a little more before you try to play these games. Go ahead learn from your mistakes here, go and find another picture and try again.
Her responce to me. She sent two messages to me so here are both:
1st message:
Big deal because I don't really care if my account gets deleted. Not the end of world pal. Though people like you, excuse me I mean loosers like you spend time looking for people like us? Is this your way to attract attention? What a shame. Poor guy you are. Go find your own race. Perhaps you never had any experience yet that is why you want to be with someone so you feel dominant. You are not worth it to be with asians. Your one hell of an ugly guy Todd. In and out, you really are. Look at yourself in the mirror.
2nd message, which she titled in the subject to me as "Inspector Cruso":
On the side note, I am very curious to ask you if you get paid and how much for your time catching people posting fake pictures. That is what you do here right? As a matter of fact you are the one who told me that I have a fake picture. So prove it. Prove it that I have a fake picture. Perhaps you just want to have more pictures of me you pervert. Todd wake up. Smell the roses. You must have a very difficult childhood. So sorry to hear that. Remember, you were the one who started communicating to me. As if you own this site. You may be a "president" of your career but that does not impress anyone at all.
Haven't responded to either of these yet. I really am under it's skin it appears.
I'm going to report "it" in a few days after one more message back.
Calling me pal in the message seems like this is a man from another country other than the PI.
So what is the guess as to what this really is?
Male?
Female?
Local?
Foreigner in PI?
Other?
FF: So what if she puts up a fake photo? Maybe she does not want some people to see her. The ad looked genuine enough and so does the English: there are all levels of ability there. Attacking you the way she does seems fair enough too. All these ladies bring to the party really are their pussies and they do have to preserve some self respect, even if that means answering you back.
[QUOTE=Domino]FF: So what if she puts up a fake photo? Maybe she does not want some people to see her. The ad looked genuine enough and so does the English: there are all levels of ability there. Attacking you the way she does seems fair enough too. All these ladies bring to the party really are their pussies and they do have to preserve some self respect, even if that means answering you back.[/QUOTE]
Domino?
I have always said it is not what someone says to you, but the way that you take what they say that is the meaning. It is up to each to take the information and decipher as they see fit. So I appreciate that you see this differently.
However, she is not required to post a picture. You may leave it blank as many do. So based on that do you still believe that this photo from a magazine is there for this poor honest girl to find a BF?
And do you really find the language as from a girl in the PI?
It is not the fact that she or it, defends the ad they posted. It is wording itself.
If this is the type of girls you are meeting in the PI, then I would like to monger with you one day or night and see where you are finding your prey.
FF
I posted on the Davao board that I fucked real beauties. I would rate them higher than her, not that that means much. I am known on these boards as boasting about the ugly toothless hags I bonk btw;)
There are so many beauties in the Pi why bother about her. Talk about more fish in the sea. In my own particular case, I find it amazing I refuse to fuck beauties for chump change. Several of the Davao women were movie star potential in looks. Not that that matters. It is under the bonnet, performance, that matters.
I take it you did not intend to marry this lady. If you feel ok lying to her, why not also feel ok with her lying to you? That is how I feel now with skanks and I sleep a lot better at night as a result. I use them for my pleasure and then return to the real world.
In fact, if I was not such a lazy good for nothing, I would make a compilation of all the lies I have been told by these women. My hard disk, about 100 gb, is not big enough:(
[QUOTE=Frequent Flier]
So what is the guess as to what this really is?
And do you really find the language as from a girl in the PI?
[/QUOTE]Frequent,
Instead of drawing a conclusion or offering my opinion on the matter I will scrupulously confine myself to reporting my recent direct personal experience.
This morning I stumbled into the coffee shop of one of the old downtown Las Vegas joints for their cheap steak and eggs breakfast special. Like so many of the hotel/casinos in town, they employ a number of Philippine-Americans. Becuase of my fondness for people from the Islands, I chatted her up and learned, among other things, that this articulate lady in her fifties came to the USA when she was a very young woman, and is now preparing to take retirement after about three decades of serving her working class American customers all day and going home to her American ex-Navy husband every night ever since she emigrated and became an American herself about thirty years ago.
Her communication was nowhere near as Americanized as those you received from he/she/it from the personals website. Not close.
Wastrel
I would have to add that a filipina with a Bachelors degree and working in avionics(flight attendant?) most likely would have excellent command of the English language.
It isn't something I spend my life worrying about.
Of course I could move on and go plant a garden and do some yoga, but I'm not upset by this.
I just saw this ad and as I do sometimes I hit her with the fake pic message. Trust me this is a scanned magazine pic.
The reason I do this is that they are obviously out to scam some guy, so I figure I'll give them a little aggravation on the way. I just like to play games with those on these sites who try to pull the scam.
I will sometimes respond to those Nigerian get rich emails to see how far I can get them to go with me. I used to have some standard responses to get them to waste their time with me, but that hard drive crapped out a few years ago.
I thought her or it's response was very unlike a Filipina. That is all and as others had showed interest about FH or other Internet sites here in the past, I thought I would show what is out there to be careful of and as a little game see what others may have thought I was really dealing with.
FF:
I thought I was the only one to respond to the Nigerian scammers! I typically try to interest them in buying shares in the Eiffel Tower, and once I tried to sell the Verrazano Narrows Bridge. Funny how it never seems to work for me. I did actually go a couple of rungs up the ladder with a scammer in Ghana once, and then I turned the cops on him. I'm not sure what happened after that, but I never saw him again.
GE
If any of you fellow monger want to try good Filipino Cuisine. There is a place called "Kamayan". It has a Filipino/American/Japanese cuisine it's a buffet place. The Filipino dishes are specialties from different towns. Lunch cost around $6-$8. They also have snack (merienda) that cost $1.25.
Also never drink from a faucet, if you plan to ruin your stay. Always buy bottled water.
Where is Kamayan, seems I've heard of it.
In Davao, I liked Apung Kula (small chain) on Rizal and also across the river; Jack's Ridge, the scene of my "famous" dinners (one time, me, a colleg dean friend from Gensan, my "sister" Mildie, 36 Cherry Blossom Chatters (one stunner, 5'5", 18 YO came from Gensan) and a father of one of the girls. I think it cost me P2200. More would have come but the Jeepnies don't run by there, you have to take a taxi, didn't know that till after I left. My wife and Mildie loned Dencia's around the corner from the Apo and there was another place that sounded like Dencia that they also liked. Haranna for ribs, loved the place, but the ribs were eclipsed by other dishes in 2003.
In Cebu, love the Marriott breakfast. There's also a "Nipa Hut" place not far from the casino that was good, one of the "cultured" Filipina businesswomen that I met in MNL took me there for dinner early on in my first trip. There are a couple of restaurants on stilts just off Olango Island that were good but one of them had a spyglass to see when "foreignors" were coming, got slightly ripped off there and always went to the other one afterwards.
In Baguio, the Cooks Inn, part of a hotel that I stayed in just up from Burnham Park (The Burnham?) was good, great seafood stew and coffee. Also "Cafe by the Ruins" in Burnham Park (northern end) was good.
Bali Hai in Bauang, Aussie owned resort was great (except for Mongolian Night, had better here in US, I don't think their wok gets hot enough. Great breakfasts tho. I had my fiance and another "friend" (kind of like an old GF of mine-her point of view, friend was mine) with me on last trip there in 2002 and I told them to try the Mango Shake (P90) and then they did at every meal, LOL, meanwhile I'm now counting my Pesoes, LOL and not ordering one for myself! Funny story about the "friend". I gave my fiance my neat Panasonic cell phone, after erasing the numbers (wrong). After I retuen to US and she gets home from HK, she call me and says"Oh honey, guess what? So ans so texted me and thought I was you!" This happened a few times, but when she said my "friend" texted me, I called my "friend" who said that she actually got a text and a call from her, LOL. They became great friends and met a few times (this was a purely platonic friendship, so no worries on my part), so when we were in Laoag, I invited her to join us and she did for the next week and a half. So guys, before giving your cell away, buy a new sim for it!
If you are in Makati. There is a place in Glorietta, as always the best way to get there is via taxi. Just tell the taxi driver, "Glorietta", then "Kamayan". They should not have a hard time finding it.
If you are in Manila, tell the taxi driver "Parde Faura", then "Kamayan".
You will find the better Filipino cuisines in the "Kamayan" restaurant.
[QUOTE=Harvey WB]Where is Kamayan, seems I've heard of it.[/QUOTE]
I guess I saw the one on Padre Faura, will try it next trip, thank you.
Tried Zamboanga on Adriatico, was with 2 other couples, couldn't attend one of the couple's wedding in Davao later that week, so I picked up the tab, nearly choked, P7,000! The Korean fiance of the best man had asked to see a crab and a lobster, believe she ordered th crab (both were huge) and of course, they served both. Food was good but I wouldn't call it great.
DimSum place across from Robinson's Mall was good, ate there a couple of times when I wanted a good, quick meal.
My wife is fond of Kenny Rogers' in Robinsons and the food court there also. I usually get a headache the first couple of visits to the food court (not from eating), then I'm fine.
It's actually a chain of restaurants throughout Manila and suburbs. The one in Ermita is on Padre Faura four blocks west (towards the bay) from Robinson's Mall across from the PAL office. The main name on this location is Dad's. Its an all you can eat buffet style restaurant. Dad's combines Kamayan with a Japanese all you can eat buffet that also includes sushi and sashimi. The total cost for Dad's (both) during lunch was 495 pesos. Whee else can you sample the delicacies of the Philippines with all you can eat sushi for less than $10 USD.
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Hey friends,
Where would you stay, for a few days. I've got eight days that I'll spend in Angeles and Manilla, but would like some advice on where to stay in the big town.
[b]Genghois[/b]
Depends on what your preference is in Makati you are nearby to the bars of Burgos Street and Greenbelt, the malls of Rockwell and Ayala. A big plus, the area has plenty of accommodation, ATMs and wide choice of eateries, all within walking distance. It really depends on whether price is a factor, type of deal you can get or how long you are looking to stay, but l would go with Makati personally.
[color=blue]Juniour[/color]
I would stay near EDSA. Its alot cheaper and you have EDSA and LA Cafe in very close proximity, then you will have more cash for AC. Try the Copacabana Hotel, you can get a great deal there, a beautiful swimming pool and you can walk across the street to EDSA, 15 minutes to LA Cafe. Burgos St. bars are way more expensive, booze and chicks alike. You can always grab a taxi and run over to Burgos one early afternoon or night to check it out. At the Copacabana, you can literally walk across the street, find a girl, and within ten minutes be banging her if you wish. Only ad another 15 for LA Cafe chicks. There are other bars around LA Cafe that you can hit as well. Not far from the airport either. They can get you a safe taxi that works for the hotel to AC for a decent price, or the Swagman Bus is not far for very cheap.
Have a good time whatever you decide.
Milkster
I'm with Juniour here in that I would go with Makati. True, the price and proximity of women is lower in EDSA, but Makati represents a truly nice, livable urban environment whereas EDSA does not. There's just more to do in Makati during the time you're not getting laid and even aside from Burgos, there is probably a greater variety of places in Makati than ini EDSA. Besides, during the evening, EDSA is only a ten minute cab ride away, and LA Cafe and its environs are only about 20 or 25 minutes.
GE
glad i caught this thread today. i'm booking my room for june this week. i'm leaning towards makati as well. can you reccommend a nice hotel with high speed, girl friendly, etc.
i was leaning towards the renaissance as it looks like prime location and has high speed. i'm assuming they're guest friendly as most of them are. rates are showing up around 140 us per night but i havent tried priceline.com.hk yet. mandarin and penninsula look similiarly priced.
my other option is the westin philippine plaza using frequent flyer points. its in pasay.
any thoughts? i searched the threads but could find the specifics i was looking for. thanks much and obrigado.
I am kinda biased being a Makati Resident whenever I am in Manila,But there is a greater variety of restaurants and bars,the place is cleaner and safer also.Like GE said,Edsa and Ermita are only 20 minutes away.The Burgos area is particularly "Kano" friendly and is safe to wander around even at 3 am in the morning,Pasay(Edsa) is defenitely not as safe.Prices are higher though,but put it in perspective,would you make a big deal if stuff was 5$-10$ more expensive,if the tradeoff was safety and convenience,.
It seems like the Mandarin Oriental and Penninsula have really good rates when I'll be in town. Are the higher class hotels girl friendly?
Thanks again for the trouble.
The women are definitely more than $5 or $10 higher in Makati bars than in EDSA and LA Cafe is dirt cheap. I guess it depends on what you want and how much you want to spend.
Good Luck
Mikster
Surfer:
I have stayed in both. No problem with either of them, or for that matter with any hotel in which I have ever stayed here.
OK. I have a question for anyone who wants to answer. How many of you have started to actually care about a girl you spent time with? I know that the regular mongers know not to let emotions ever play a part in their mongering but for those of us who only monger on occasion like me, have you ever started to have feelings for a girl?
The first time I went to a KTV last year, I was with my wife's 2 brothers and father and we each had a girl sitting with us. I was too embarrassed to even touch the girl due to my brother-in-laws and father-in-law being there with me but I started to actually enjoy talking with the petite, 19 year old student I was sitting with. I felt like she was someone I could spend time with if situations were different (if I wasn't married...) but fortunately I never got her number.
About a month ago, I went to another club and spent some time with a girl and enjoyed the conversation even though I don't speak Tagalog. Her English wasn't as good as the girl from the year before but she was much more beautiful and had a fun and "innocent" personality. Saw the same girl a second time and she gave me her #. Saw her a third time and we had a great time again and we have been texting each other on a regular basis.
I know one of the first rules of mongering is not to let emotions play a part in your hobby. But, I am by no means a regular monger and I'm just wondering if a similar situation has happened with anyone here.
If you go back and read the forum, this has been talked about before. Many guys start to get feelings for these girls, but wake up when he realizes that she is only after your money or she is begging you to marry her and take her back to your home country. These bar girls are taught to be manipulative so that they can get the most money out of you as they can. While she is talking to you, she is also talking to who knows how many other men. They only have a short time that their looks are attractive enough to make money, then they spend it on their family back in the provinces since they are the only ones with an income.
Now, my advice would be to be friendly with her, text/see her as long as you can afford it, she may actually give it to you for free. Just be ready for her big letdown when she finally learns you are married and she moves on.
Just my 2 cents from someone who almost ruined a 13 year marriage for the fantasy of the younger beautiful girls the PI has to offer.
Ted
Hi Ted,
I actually read about this before but I think this is a little different (aren't they all...) :). I have read the entire forum but I have to admit that when I read it, it was several months ago and now I just check every day or so for updates so I don't remember everything.
I am not thinking about ruining a marriage but she has known I am married from the beginning. She knows I am in the US and do not have an anticipated return date and has never asked for a thing. I have sent her a couple of cell phone loads which she has used almost entirely to text me.
I have to say that at first I didn't fully believe her and thought she might just be after money and even thought one of her friends might have been the one texting me at times but I know that is not the case. I have called and spoken with her several times and I am pretty sure I know her pretty well. She has been upfront with me on several things and told me several things she did not need to tell me and several things she could have easily lied to me about.
I am 100% positive that she will give it to me for free. The times we "fooled around" at the club she never asked for money and one time she even left to perform on stage before I gave her anything. I decided to wait for her and give her some money even though my friends were telling me to leave.
I have seen other girls who will play that game with people as you mentioned but I know she is not like that. As I was thinking about her I just began wondering if others had encountered similar situations.
Thanks for your input.
Sugoi
It was in the Philippines, in the modest home of a woman in Zambales, that I saw a DVD for the first time. “It looks just like a CD,” I remarked. She replied that I should know since I live in the US and have worked in the electronics industry for many years. I told her that I don’t even own a radio or a TV and that the cell phone I used to communicate to her was the first one I ever had.
When I depart, she wants me to take the tricycle or jeepney. I tell her I’ve been sitting all day and need to walk for a while. Whenever I go somewhere with a Filipina and we walk for a minute or two to reach the next jeepney stop or whatever, she asks if it’s ok to walk. The idea is that since I’m rich, I’m probably used to going everywhere by car and that taking 100 steps using my own feet must be demeaning.
In my view, the noise and pollution caused by tricycles and the benefit of physical exercise is enough reason to view walking as the nobler means of transportation. Yet it makes sense to me that someone might view motorized transport as more modern and prestigious and thus walk only when there is no alternative. What doesn’t make sense to me is how tricycles can fit in the budget of the average Filipino.
Paying 15P to save yourself a 10 minute walk or 30P to save yourself a 20 minute walk seems nonsensical, and that is ignoring the fact that foot traffic sometimes moves faster. When you try to support multiple people on a 10000P/month salary, most of that would have to go to pay for transportation. When I observe how Filipinos spend money on food, I conclude that most of it must go to pay for food. It seems at least 20-30% of income is needed to pay for rent and utilities. From what I’ve seen, 10% seems like a conservative estimate for how much is spent on cell phones. Perhaps 20% goes to pay for gifts, presents, celebrations, not to mention weddings. And there’s the school tuition to pay for and the alcohol and cigarettes. Filipinos don’t skimp on pharmaceuticals either. Regular visits to the barber for 30-40P are in the budget as well. And don’t the women use pantiliners?
I am fortunate to have lived with a lower-class Filipino family for about a month in a self-made home with no plumbing. As a result, I know of other types of expenses that I wouldn’t otherwise have thought of.
The family would purchase all items in small quantities. For example, detergent, shampoo, cigarettes, toilet paper, or candy are purchased in single use packages or one at a time from a neighbor’s store, making the price a little higher than at the supermarket. (I wouldn’t be surprised if the neighbor actually buys the items at the supermarket and then resells them locally for a profit.)
Every couple of days, the lottery guy would come by to announce some winning number and to collect the new bets. This lottery is not a true game of chance, but based on the stories I heard, it seems they’ll let you win on purpose the first or second time you play to convince you that it’s a game worth playing and to get you hooked. This simple trick is remarkably effective.
The most interesting surprise, however, was that the husband, a driver by profession and the breadwinner of the family, had been spending half his salary on another woman for several years. He would go out with her on weekends with the excuse that he had to work overtime.
Can the Filipinos’ ability to spend more money than they have be explained? When I brought up this question to one of the girls I met in the Philippines, she said, that’s why you have to pray to God and hope for the best.
My friends and acquaintances in the US appear to be much more sensible with regard to personal finance. They’re savvy enough to shop around for good deals and are sensitive to prices of smaller ticket items such as gasoline and food. They have at least ten times the income. With superior money management skills and higher income, one would expect them to lead better lives. As far as I can tell, Americans work longer and harder and have less leisure. The least we could do is retire at a young age or work only part of the year.
[b]Pure Logic[/b]
I don’t think you can ever understand the mind of a Philippino 100%, I agree that when I am there walking in the sunshine is one of the few things I actually enjoy. But to do this with a local they think you’re mad. In Makati I walked several times to Ayala Mall a journey of no more than 20 minutes, but if I had someone with me, this was nearly impossible. I managed this once dragging the girl from every passing jeepney, maybe they think only poor people walk.
In Angeles city, I would walk to Robinsons Mall there is not much up there to do in AC but it helps to pass 15 minutes in the sunshine listening to music. I have also stayed with a Philippino family in Butuan City, Mindanoa in the late 80’s and despite thinking I understood them I still find I am learning something new every day.
What always strikes me is that when you take them out instead of drinking freshly squeezed fruit juice or boco (coconut) water (which is expensive here) what do they want, a bottle of coca cola, which in some places is more expensive than the natural – better for you alternatives. When some of these girls do have a little money on them they don’t tend to have the mind-set to spend some, save a bit for later (a rainy day) – but instead fritter it all away, as fast as you can, then remain broke until they have money again. Ask yourself, how many girls have you ever met who actually have a bank account in the Philippines? And I am talking about middle class girls I know, who don’t have bank accounts.
[color=blue]Juniour[/color]
I've wondered about a lot of those things too. Everyone seems to have a cell phone with a camera but the last time I looked, they go for about 5000+. Considering that a decent monthly salary is about 10,000, that's half of their monthly income. Many people have phones that are even nicer than that. That's like saying if the AVERAGE monthly income is $3000/month in the US that someone would spend $1500 on a cell phone.
I am sure that most of us make much more than that and we would never consider spending $1500 on a cell phone...
Other than cell phones, Philippines is also the capital for network marketing AKA pyramid schemes. I hate to generalize but it seems that majority always want the 'get rich quick' scheme where at the same time it took them so long to save all that money only to throw it all away.
But at the end of the day, you can'te blame them given that they probobly only had elementary education and don't know the basics. Its a country where the rich keeps getting richer and smaller and the middle class and the poor keeps getting larger and the purchasing power of the peso gets weaker.
IB
[QUOTE=Sugoi]I've wondered about a lot of those things too. Everyone seems to have a cell phone with a camera but the last time I looked, they go for about 5000+. Considering that a decent monthly salary is about 10,000, that's half of their monthly income. Many people have phones that are even nicer than that. That's like saying if the AVERAGE monthly income is $3000/month in the US that someone would spend $1500 on a cell phone.
I am sure that most of us make much more than that and we would never consider spending $1500 on a cell phone...[/QUOTE]
they can buy them on installment plans of up to 2 years to pay,Thats why they can afford them
I'm not sure that Western logic exists here, even as a theoretical concept, and I am relatively certain that there's no understanding whatsoever of the laws of cause and effect. The absence of any paradigm that makes sense to Westerners makes this a difficult country to understand and I often say that the longer I live here the less I truly "get it."
Unlike the more developed countries, there's no system of ready credit here, but I've noticed an informal system of paying on time. As far as I can see, basically everyone owes money to everyone else, and the money is repaid in dribs and drabs. This may explain the expensive cell phone phenomonon. There's also very little here in the way of preplanning. I've said before that for a typical Filipina, long range planning is deciding at breakfast what you might like to have for dinner. I don't know if this is because day-to-day survival is such a hassle for most people that planning is an irrelevant concept, or if there's something deeper in the culture that discourages thinking ahead. This whole place functions on the basis of a "let's see what tomorrow brings" philosophy.
The lack of any planned follow through is also reflected in the politics (and politicians) of the country, which are characterized by the highly-publicized announcement of grandiose plans, few if any of which are actually implemented...ever. That's why it's possible for the President to announce a major fiscal crisis one month, and three or four months later announce that because of the effective government programs put in place less than six months ago, the crisis has abated. It's all pure crap, but people pretend at least to believe it.
In short, this is a place ruled almost entirely by fatalistic impulsiveness the best metaphor of which is probably the erratic behavior of drivers in Davao and elsewhere.
:D
GE
Most funds used to buy cars, mobiles, house and lots comes principally from remittances sent by Philippine people working abroad and to a lesser extent, from foreign men. Major sectors of the economy live on this flow, namely retail trade, banks and real estate.
Has anyone any news of budget airlines flying the MNL BKK route? If so kindly give details. I heard that a Thai budget airline was going to do the route in the near future?
The paradox I initially tried to communicate was that according to western logic, the sum of expenditures cannot exceed the sum of incomes.
Most of the discussion related to how Filipinos don’t spend money wisely. This discussion hinted at a related paradox: Common sense suggests that when you’re poor, you must budget wisely or suffer unpleasant consequences, such as having no food to eat, no clean clothes to wear, or being homeless. I find it remarkable how well the poor are able to make ends meet.
Perhaps GoodEnough suggested the best explanation for the second paradox. The Filipinos have a social network in which everyone lends money to everyone else. This doesn’t produce any net gain, but if you don’t spend your money right away you’ll be obligated to give it away to someone else. The person who has nothing can ask for help, so it’s better to have nothing.
To the first paradox, Cebu Local suggested installment plans, but what would prevent someone from running away with a new cell phone without having paid for it? Or how would one force someone to make payments who doesn’t have any money? However, the explanation is logical in that it shows how something can be obtained for no payment. Bartering would be another example of this type of explanation because it shows that the overall expenses are less than what one would expect.
A second type of explanation involves a hidden source of income as Fastpiston suggested. I think his explanation resolves most of the paradox. It would be an interesting social experiment to outlaw sending money back home and to observe if the economy would continue to support all the fast food places, the compulsive text messaging, Bingo halls, and movie theaters.
A third type of explanation would be to argue that Filipinos only appear to consume a lot on the surface. An example would be to argue that the typical family will starve for several days when they run out of funds, but continues spending money on expensive items to make it appear like they are well off.
Whatever the explanations may be, I would like to argue that the Filipinos’ carefree spending habits make them saner than those who live in wealthier countries. Since money by itself has no meaning or value, it is only sensible to exchange it for something meaningful whenever possible. Even when they make questionable choices in their purchases, they are avoiding the more foolish mistake of saving it in order to derive pleasure from the mere possession of something. The Filipinos spend what they earn and therefore live good lives.
The high-income earners, on the other hand, cannot possibly spend all the money they earn in a way that is personally meaningful. The sane remedy would be to work less and to enjoy more leisure time. Quite on the contrary, the more we earn (think doctors, lawyers, and engineers), the harder we tend to work and the more stressed we tend to be.
Modern technology has increased productivity to the point where the only way to keep us all working 40 hours a week is to invent huge industries that make each other necessary, but provide no meaningful value to us. As an example, observe how efficient the transportation system is in Manila compared to Los Angeles, which to my knowledge is the city most dominated by private transportation in the whole world.
In LA, private transportation keeps many people employed from car salesmen and auto mechanics to insurance agents and construction workers. Yet all the “work” they do doesn’t improve life. The use of jeepneys would reduce air pollution and relieve traffic congestion and would allow the city to shrink (by removing unneeded parking lots and roads) so that less transportation is needed in the first place.
By buying houses and cars with our money, we are doing precisely what I praise the Filipinos for not doing. We are deriving pleasure from the mere possession of something. The ownership, in turn, creates more responsibility and work for us, which are in addition to working full-time. I conclude that the citizens of developed countries work more for less and must therefore be considered more insane than the Filipinos.
A great example of such an insane person is myself. I truly believe in the conclusion I have drawn and yet I continue to work like I’ve been deprived of my wits. I have no need to work, yet I work because I have nothing better to do with my time and money. I have been trained and taught my whole life to live to work, and now I can’t seem to find a way to stop.
About economics and our chosen hobby, etc. here is something a friend sent me:
The daughter had not been to the house for over 5 years. Upon her return, her father cussed her out:
"Where have you been all this time, you ingrate! Why didn't you write us? Not even a line to let us know how you were doing? Why didn't you call? You little tramp! Don't you know what you put your Mom through??!!"
The girl, crying: "Sniff, sniff.. dad.. I became a PROSTITUTE..."
"WHAT? Out of here, you shameless harlot, sinner! You're a disgrace to this family! I don't ever want to see you again!"
"OK, Dad. As you wish. I just came back to give Mom this fur coat and title to a mansion, a savings account certificate of $5 million for my little brother, and for you, Daddy, this gold Rolex, the spanking new BMW that's parked outside and a lifetime membership to the Country Club.. and an invitation for you all to spend New Years' Eve, on board my new yacht in the Riviera,
and ..
"Now what was it you said you had become?"
Girl, crying again: Sniff, sniff "A prostitute Dad!"
"Oh, Gee! you scared me half to death, girl! I thought you said "A PROTESTANT! Come here and give your old man a hug!"
[QUOTE=Fastpiston]Has anyone any news of budget airlines flying the MNL BKK route? If so kindly give details. I heard that a Thai budget airline was going to do the route in the near future?[/QUOTE]
I did BKK-MNL one way in February on Philippine Air for around $200 IIRC.
There are several LCCs operating out of BKK and SIN as well as KUL. You can book BKK-SIN for as low as 25 or 30 dollars, though that fare isn't always available.
If you want to save some money you may be able to book a couple of tickets on AirAsia, Jet*Asia, TigerAir, ValueAir and a few others that don't recall now. Just do a Google search.
You will have to connect in KUL or SIN and change planes / airlines, and it will cost you some time. OTOH, a couple of those airlines actually fly into CRK (Clark Air Base in Angeles), which will save you the hassle of getting from Manila to AC. Don't believe all the airlines fly to CRK 7 days a week.
Tiger is one of the airlines that flies to CRK, but that will normally set you back more than $50.
EMK
Thanks Mahku!
I would how things are in Angeles City around Xmas time and New Years. i am planing a trip some in Dec. 25. Would I be wasteing my time, or should I go in late March?
Thank you,
Dog face
[QUOTE=Fastpiston]Has anyone any news of budget airlines flying the MNL BKK route? If so kindly give details. I heard that a Thai budget airline was going to do the route in the near future?[/QUOTE]
Thai Air Asia is planning to in the near future and Thai Airways is going to be flying to Cebu soon also
[QUOTE=emailkid]I did BKK-MNL one way in February on Philippine Air for around $200 IIRC.
There are several LCCs operating out of BKK and SIN as well as KUL. You can book BKK-SIN for as low as 25 or 30 dollars, though that fare isn't always available.
If you want to save some money you may be able to book a couple of tickets on AirAsia, Jet*Asia, TigerAir, ValueAir and a few others that don't recall now. Just do a Google search.
You will have to connect in KUL or SIN and change planes / airlines, and it will cost you some time. OTOH, a couple of those airlines actually fly into CRK (Clark Air Base in Angeles), which will save you the hassle of getting from Manila to AC. Don't believe all the airlines fly to CRK 7 days a week.
Tiger is one of the airlines that flies to CRK, but that will normally set you back more than $50.
EMK[/QUOTE]
Tiger Airways will be going from 3 times a week to Daily from Singapore,Air Asia is 3 times weekly from KL.Both flying directly into Clark.Value Air does not fly into the Philippines yet and Jetstar flies into Manila
[QUOTE=Pure Logic]The paradox I initially tried to communicate was that according to western logic, the sum of expenditures cannot exceed the sum of incomes.
Most of the discussion related to how Filipinos don’t spend money wisely. This discussion hinted at a related paradox: Common sense suggests that when you’re poor, you must budget wisely or suffer unpleasant consequences, such as having no food to eat, no clean clothes to wear, or being homeless. I find it remarkable how well the poor are able to make ends meet.
Perhaps GoodEnough suggested the best explanation for the second paradox. The Filipinos have a social network in which everyone lends money to everyone else. This doesn’t produce any net gain, but if you don’t spend your money right away you’ll be obligated to give it away to someone else. The person who has nothing can ask for help, so it’s better to have nothing.
To the first paradox, Cebu Local suggested installment plans, but what would prevent someone from running away with a new cell phone without having paid for it? Or how would one force someone to make payments who doesn’t have any money? However, the explanation is logical in that it shows how something can be obtained for no payment. Bartering would be another example of this type of explanation because it shows that the overall expenses are less than what one would expect
Actually I have a good insight because Smart and Globe Telecom are both clients of mine and there is a high 25% default rater on phones bought on installment under the different plans.But since the markup is so high,they are still ahead even with the 25% default rate
In my view, the evolutionary reasons for humor lie in teaching morality. By laughing at something, we make it clear that it is completely inappropriate and not to be taken seriously. As adults, we are hardly being taught anything, since we've heard the same type of thing many times before. Yet eventually a joke will find its way to a younger more impressionable audience.
Mahku's joke teaches that
[list][*] prostitution is cause for moral indignation[*] it is inappropriate to regard money as so much more important than one's moral values[*] hypocrisy is bad[*] forgiveness should not be based on self-interest[*] one should not be so obvious about one's hypocrisy[/list]Without these moral assumptions, the joke wouldn’t be funny.
The practical effect of the joke, as well as most jokes of our time, is to affirm a kind of cynicism, a certain hopelessness and pessimism that permeates our culture. It’s absurd that the father values the material junk that his daughter brought home, but oh, well, there’s nothing we can do about it. That’s human nature. People have lost the ability to take themselves or the world seriously; hence, their preference for laughing things off with a good sense of humor.
I will be working in the Ortigas area for a little over a month and am looking for a decent hotel with a decent monthly rate. I am starting a call center so the room is coming on my dime so I would like to get something decent at a reasonable price.
Any suggestions?
Sugoi,
Try this website [url]www.asiatravel.com[/url] and see if you can find something in the Ortigas area to stay.
[QUOTE=genuis8]Sugoi,
Try this website [url]www.asiatravel.com[/url] and see if you can find something in the Ortigas area to stay.[/QUOTE]
I looked at that but not knowing the area nor the hotels, I don't know which ones are any good. So, I'm looking for people who know the area who can offer a hand.
Thanks.
Anyone have some good tips for me, either makati or edsa, besides LA Cafe? is it pronounced L.A. Cafe or la cafe?
To all that pm thanks.
Thanks all.
Black 04:
The L.A. Cafe is in Ermita, not Edsa or Makati. However, if you're walking up Del Pilar (the street on which LA Cafe is located) you will find three or four bars, including Amazon and then there's Jarrasic directly across the street. The EDSA complex has about 15 bars, but there are several others throughout the area. Also the new entertainment complex in Paranaque is supposed to be decent, though I've never been. In Makati itself there's Burgos St. and it's 10 or 15 bars, and dozens more throughout the area, including all the places in Green Hills.
Better to decide where you want to be. For me, it's always Makati, but others like different places.
GE
[QUOTE=GoodEnough]Black 04:
The L.A. Cafe is in Ermita, not Edsa or Makati. However, if you're walking up Del Pilar (the street on which LA Cafe is located) you will find three or four bars, including Amazon and then there's Jarrasic directly across the street. The EDSA complex has about 15 bars, but there are several others throughout the area. Also the new entertainment complex in Paranaque is supposed to be decent, though I've never been. In Makati itself there's Burgos St. and it's 10 or 15 bars, and dozens more throughout the area, including all the places in Green Hills.
Better to decide where you want to be. For me, it's always Makati, but others like different places.
GE[/QUOTE]Thanks GE.
Am I right to assume that Makati is the closest to the center? And from there I can get to Edsa, Ermita, QC in a reasonable amount of time? I kinda want to hit a different city every other night, but well see.
I'm not going to stress myself out, it's not like Manila and surrounding cities are as huge as LA or NY metros.
I realize people always put up travel agent info. I am looking for new updated info if anyone has any. I have to go from NYC to Manila. Cheapest I have seen is $1199 and that is Korean Airlines going from NYC to Seoul and then on to Manila from there. I am going to assume there is a refuel stop in there somewhere but the travel agent never emailed me that info.
I know there are packages during the winter (US WINTER) that are as low as $700 or so. Unfortunately, I am moving there for a job opportunity and I am responsible for my own ticket. I am not happy about that but the money is good and it is a chance to get paid to live in the land of booze and broads. Adult Disneyland here I come!
As I said earlier. If anyone has any new updated info for travelling to Manila during July/August I would be mighty grateful.
Vinnie:
I would suggest you contact a travel agent in the PI and ask for a quote on PAL. If you need the name, address and email contacts of some agents here, send me a PM and I will forward them to you.
Black04:
Actually the metro Manila area is pretty enormous, and the idiocy of the drivers, the lack of many large freeways, and the sheer volume of traffic combine to make it difficult, during certain times, to travel from one part to another. It has taken me more than 90 minutes, on occassion, to get from parts of Quezon City to Makati. However, during prime womanizing hours, you can get fairly easily from Makati to Ermita in about 20 minutes and to EDSA in 10 or 15. You can also make it from Makati to the new complex in Paranaque in 20 minutes or so by taxi.
:D
GE
[QUOTE=Vinnie1369]I realize people always put up travel agent info. I am looking for new updated info if anyone has any. I have to go from NYC to Manila. Cheapest I have seen is $1199 and that is Korean Airlines going from NYC to Seoul and then on to Manila from there. I am going to assume there is a refuel stop in there somewhere but the travel agent never emailed me that info.
I know there are packages during the winter (US WINTER) that are as low as $700 or so. Unfortunately, I am moving there for a job opportunity and I am responsible for my own ticket. I am not happy about that but the money is good and it is a chance to get paid to live in the land of booze and broads. Adult Disneyland here I come!
As I said earlier. If anyone has any new updated info for travelling to Manila during July/August I would be mighty grateful.[/QUOTE]
actually PAL is NOT the best option to the PI from New York,Can I suggest checking the travel agents who advertise in the Philippine newspapers.They give them for free at Filipino stores and Restaurants.Asiana and Northwest have proven more competititive,Cathay is also quite aggressive at times.Hope this helps
[QUOTE=Vinnie1369]I realize people always put up travel agent info. I am looking for new updated info if anyone has any. I have to go from NYC to Manila. Cheapest I have seen is $1199 and that is Korean Airlines going from NYC to Seoul and then on to Manila from there. I am going to assume there is a refuel stop in there somewhere but the travel agent never emailed me that info.
I know there are packages during the winter (US WINTER) that are as low as $700 or so. Unfortunately, I am moving there for a job opportunity and I am responsible for my own ticket. I am not happy about that but the money is good and it is a chance to get paid to live in the land of booze and broads. Adult Disneyland here I come!
As I said earlier. If anyone has any new updated info for travelling to Manila during July/August I would be mighty grateful.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.cathay-usa.com/dotm/dotm.asp[/url] $778+taxes = $836.65
For those that are in the P.I. already are the rumors of a coup de'ta during or a little after Philippine Independence coming up in the news at all?
Black04
[QUOTE=Huitzli Smokapetl][url]http://www.cathay-usa.com/dotm/dotm.asp[/url] $778+taxes = $836.65[/QUOTE]
I just got $662 total with taxes from LAX to MNL using EDWARD MABUNGA
[url]WWW.EMABUNGA.COM/[/url] 1-888-622-8642 (1-888-MABUNGA)
You might get a quote from him.
As I will be spending some time soon (about 8 weeks) in the Phils, mostly in backwoods, skank rich places, I would like to know:
1. Will Japanese electrical instruments and plugs work all over the Phils? [red] so are adopters easy to find [/red]
2. Just how safe are these ladies? if I go long time, what are the chances of my goods being stolen? Is it advisable and safe to bring lap tops, cameras, video cameras etc? I would dearly like to try some Southern tribes but safety first!
I have some 3 sums and more sums lined up. I have been a busy boy :D I am also bringing an incredible array of vibrators, butt plugs, tit clamps etc. Should I travel lighter? Don't want hassle at immigration or in the bedroom.
Ireckon the Phils is much sluttier than Thaland btw:)
[QUOTE=Domino]As I will be spending some time soon (about 8 weeks) in the Phils, mostly in backwoods, skank rich places, I would like to know:
1. Will Japanese electrical instruments and plugs work all over the Phils?NO
2. Just how safe are these ladies? if I go long time, what are the chances of my goods being stolen?GENERALLY NOT SAFE BE ON YOUR GUARD.THATS WHY THEY HAVE ROOM SAFES
3. Is it advisable and safe to bring lap tops, cameras, video cameras etc?YES AS LONG AS YOU EXERCISE CAUTION I would dearly like to try some Southern tribes but safety first!I TOTALLY AGREE[/QUOTE]Hopefully this answers your questions
[QUOTE=Domino]As I will be spending some time soon (about 8 weeks) in the Phils, mostly in backwoods, skank rich places, I would like to know:
1. Will Japanese electrical instruments and plugs work all over the Phils? [red] so are adopters easy to find [/red]YES READILY AVAILABLE AT PLACES LIKE SM OR ACE HARDWARE
2. Just how safe are these ladies? if I go long time, what are the chances of my goods being stolen? Is it advisable and safe to bring lap tops, cameras, video cameras etc? I would dearly like to try some Southern tribes but safety first!
I have some 3 sums and more sums lined up. I have been a busy boy :D I am also bringing an incredible array of vibrators, butt plugs, tit clamps etc. Should I travel lighter?BE CAREFUL,IF YOU BRING TOO MUCH,IMMIGRATION OR CUSTOMS WILL STOP AND HASSLE YOU,YOU CAN BUY WHAT YOU NEED AT ADULT STORES IN MANILA. Don't want hassle at immigration or in the bedroom.
Ireckon the Phils is much sluttier than Thaland btw:)[/QUOTE]Hopefully this answers your other questions
Hi all,
I've been lurking and reading for a while. I used to write a few posts now and then, but the mongering life has been pretty dry lately.
Planning a trip to Phil in Nov, and I was just wondering if anyone has had any experience when it comes to girls they meet in Chat rooms and websites such as Flip Heart? I've got a few lines up, but I am just wondering if I should be up front and expect action from them, or are they mostly good girls looking for marriage?
Also, the girls I'm chatting with are all over the map. I am thinking of travelling to the following places, any advice/suggestion would be greatly appreciated (I know I will get a few "read the thread" responses, but I have already read the threads, and are looking for additionla info.
Place I plan to go: Cebu, Dumaguete, Davao, southern Leyte - may be Maasin (Whale Shark and girls), Cagayan De Oro. I don't think I want to go to General Santos, although I've been chatting with a few hotties there. And of course, Manila and Angeles City.
Problem is, I don't have all the time in the world to do this, so, I have to get from one place to the next quick.
What's the best itinerary for this? I was thinking flying in to Cebu, then take the fast ferry to Dumaguete, then back to Cebu, and on to Southern Leyte by ferry. Hop another ferry to Mindanao, go to Cagayan De Oro and Davao, then fly to Manila. All in a span of 2 weeks. Do-able?
Appreciate all input.
Diver
[QUOTE=Diver69]Hi all,
I've been lurking and reading for a while. I used to write a few posts now and then, but the mongering life has been pretty dry lately.
Planning a trip to Phil in Nov, and I was just wondering if anyone has had any experience when it comes to girls they meet in Chat rooms and websites such as Flip Heart? I've got a few lines up, but I am just wondering if I should be up front and expect action from them, or are they mostly good girls looking for marriage?
Also, the girls I'm chatting with are all over the map. I am thinking of travelling to the following places, any advice/suggestion would be greatly appreciated (I know I will get a few "read the thread" responses, but I have already read the threads, and are looking for additionla info.
Place I plan to go: Cebu, Dumaguete, Davao, southern Leyte - may be Maasin (Whale Shark and girls), Cagayan De Oro. I don't think I want to go to General Santos, although I've been chatting with a few hotties there. And of course, Manila and Angeles City.
Problem is, I don't have all the time in the world to do this, so, I have to get from one place to the next quick.
What's the best itinerary for this? I was thinking flying in to Cebu, then take the fast ferry to Dumaguete, then back to Cebu, and on to Southern Leyte by ferry. Hop another ferry to Mindanao, go to Cagayan De Oro and Davao, then fly to Manila. All in a span of 2 weeks. Do-able?
Appreciate all input.
Diver[/QUOTE]Yes,Cebu ,Fast Ferry dumaguete then to Ormoc by same Fast Ferry,Then back to Cebu by Fast Ferry,Then Fast Ferry Cagayan De Oro but suggest you fly rather then travel overland to Davao from Cagayan De Oro,Have the Gen San Girls visit you in Davao,Since it is only 3-4 hours drive from Davao.good luck
Thanks Cebu Local. You're always a wealth of info.
May be we can hook up for a beer or two when I'm in town in November.
Diver
[QUOTE=Diver69]Thanks Cebu Local. You're always a wealth of info.
May be we can hook up for a beer or two when I'm in town in November.
Diver[/QUOTE]
Sure,No problem just PM me when you get into town and lets hook up.BTW are you sure about the whale sharks in Maasin??.Always thought that was in Donsol,Sorsogon and Bohol.Check on this.You should try to see the thresher sharks of Malapascua in Cebu if you can also as well as the friendly dolphins of Tanon Straits.That is one thing about the Philippines,WARM water.I tried scuba diving before of the coast of Vancouver island and even with the wet suit ,thermal stuff etc Brrrrrrr.Hope you had a nice long CANADA DAY weekend
I have also joined Filipina Heart and have met so many sweeties from all over the Phil that I need to keep notes now to keep them all straight. I am planning another trip in mid August to meet some in person. Just wondered if any of you have found a good way to let them down gently and not cause too much anguish when you want to move on to the next Filipina. I don't believe any of these girls are pros and they all want some kind of relationship even if they know i am married. I of course am only interested in their sexy bodies but I also want them to enjoy themselves while we are together and plan on treating them to nice dinners and trips to the malls and beaches. They all believe I am coming to meet only them so I can't say I have another hottie waiting in the wings. Being the hedonistic male that we all are here we all want to enjoy more than one pretty Filipina but I just don't know how to get away. Any Ideas would be greatly appreciated. I have decided to concentrate on the larger cities of Davao, Cebu, CDO, Butuan and Manila. Hope 21 days is sufficient.
Don't set too aggressive a schedule when visiting the Phils. I did and wound up getting sick from jumping around too much (allergies, then sinusitus). Finally took a friend's advice and just stayed put in Cebu for a couple of weeks (it was a 9 week trip, ah, the good old days!).
Even flying from MNL to Davao seems to take a whole day, what with leaving your hotel 3 hours before the flight, the 3 hour boarding/flying/deplaning and the 1 hour airport/hotel check in/ah, I'm finally in my room sequence.
I still tend to "overbook" before I go and scale back when there. Remember, if you are travelling by bus, figure 25 MPH, so a trip of 100 miles is 4 hours - I wondered why my wife and friends could never tell me how many miles/KM to a place, just the hours, which got cut by 1/3 if you took the "overnight" bus.
Happy Trip.
[QUOTE=Harvey Wb]Don't set too aggressive a schedule when visiting the Phils. I did and wound up getting sick from jumping around too much (allergies, then sinusitus). Finally took a friend's advice and just stayed put in Cebu for a couple of weeks (it was a 9 week trip, ah, the good old days!).
Even flying from MNL to Davao seems to take a whole day, what with leaving your hotel 3 hours before the flight, the 3 hour boarding/flying/deplaning and the 1 hour airport/hotel check in/ah, I'm finally in my room sequence.
I still tend to "overbook" before I go and scale back when there. Remember, if you are travelling by bus, figure 25 MPH, so a trip of 100 miles is 4 hours - I wondered why my wife and friends could never tell me how many miles/KM to a place, just the hours, which got cut by 1/3 if you took the "overnight" bus.
Happy Trip.[/QUOTE]IMHO As a frequent Philippine Traveler between Cebu and Manila,I do the trip about 6-8 times a month.I disagree Check in for either PAL or Cebu Pacific is 45 minutes before the Flight.So try leaving your Hotel 30-40 minutes from either Makati or Malate to the Airport.Check in 45 Minutes before, 1 hour flight to Cebu then 15 Minutes to get your bags 30 Minutes Max from the Airport to downtown even at rush hour 45 minutes travel to airport plus one hour flight plus 15 minutes to get your bags plus 30 minutes to the hotel is only 2 and a half to three hours max.I could point out that the Cebu to Dumaguete Supercat trip takes only 3 hours,Cebu to Maasin Southern Leyte is 2 and a half hours.If you plan your schedule well it is doable very easily.PS Notice at no point did i recomend taking a bus.Avoid them as much as possibile,stick to plane and fast ferry.I would be more then happy to customize a schedule for you in my spare time.Just PM me
OK... Here is the challenge for the RP experts... After scanning this board, I decided that my first visit next March would be to Cebu. HOWEVER, after reading more and checking out the Phillipines, I decided that I really don't want to wait so I am going to take 10+ days out of a September SEA trip and visit the PI.
Unfortunately, I could not get a free ticket into Cebu and will instead arrive in Manila from HKG. My question is simple... Should I focus on the area around Manila this trip and then Cebu the next visit OR should I just head straight to Cebu and venture out from there. I've got several girls in Cagayan, Surigao and Davao who seem to be hot to show me their local color!
Of course, even if I decide to meet some of these girls, I still would like to have the option of fresh company whenever I wish.
So... Help me out... Stay around Manila or head south immediately?
Any comments would be greatly appreciated and reciprocated should you ever decide to head to the FSU... i.e. Russia/Ukraine.
[QUOTE=CA Traveler]OK... Here is the challenge for the RP experts... After scanning this board, I decided that my first visit next March would be to Cebu. HOWEVER, after reading more and checking out the Phillipines, I decided that I really don't want to wait so I am going to take 10+ days out of a September SEA trip and visit the PI.
Unfortunately, I could not get a free ticket into Cebu and will instead arrive in Manila from HKG. My question is simple... Should I focus on the area around Manila this trip and then Cebu the next visit OR should I just head straight to Cebu and venture out from there. I've got several girls in Cagayan, Surigao and Davao who seem to be hot to show me their local color!
Of course, even if I decide to meet some of these girls, I still would like to have the option of fresh company whenever I wish.
So... Help me out... Stay around Manila or head south immediately?
Any comments would be greatly appreciated and reciprocated should you ever decide to head to the FSU... i.e. Russia/Ukraine.[/QUOTE]IMHO I would stay in Manila to rest overnight then head south to Cebu immediately.Cebu is closer to Davao,Cagayan and Surigao then Manila.Cheers
I agree with Cebu Local. Take a night or two to rest up and visit one or two of the local establishments that you've read about here, and then get to Cebu. It's cheaper, more pleasant, and a much more convenieent location for the girls with whom you've been corresponding.
GE
CL/GE... I think that is pretty sound advice. That way I'll at least have a taste of the north. Everyone seems to be pretty down on the Renaissance in Makati... I have normally had very good girl-friendly results all over the world with the Marriott chain. Do you think that the clamp down will continue for several months or just blow over?
CA Traveler:
Why take the chance? Unless you have a truly spectacular rate at the Renaissance, stay at the Dusit, the Peninsula, the Mandarin or the Shangri La, where they do not give you any hassles, ever.
GE
Thanks, sounds good... I'm actually only going to stay one night then head south. I'm looking forward to sampling the delights of the PI.
Here is a little change of pace from the Asian girls if you'd like to see some of the Russki variety...
Thanks for the advice and invitation. We'll hook up for a few cold ones when I get there.
I read in Lonely Planet that the whale sharks go to Sogod Bay and Liloan Bay near Padre Burgos, so I'm hoping to go for a few dives there and hope to see them.
I've heard about thresher sharks at Malapuscua, but I hear they are seen very often anymore. I'm going to Apo Island near Dumaguete this trip, and according to Dragon Slayer, chicks are ripe for the picking in Dumaguete. However, last time I was there, I couldn't find anythig. Have to make sure to get detailed info before I go this time.
Thanks for the suggestion to fly to Davao instead of travelling by road. How much is the flight from Cagayan to Davao? Also, can you fly from Davao directly to Manila? And how much? I want to go to Manila and try Angeles City this trip. Heard so much about it - gotta try it.
As far as diving in Canada goes - I got certified here, and that was the last time I dove here. Way too cold.
Hope to see some of the members in Asia when I get there in Nov.
Keep cool.
Diver69
Well, as long as the old timers are out, I guess I'll get my feet wet again.
The rumors of my demise have been BS. I just got tired of the petty bickering and had some computer issues as well.
Anyway, howdy all !
Diver69, as usual, I agree with CL. I've always heard that Donsol is THE place for whale sharks.
I was in Puerto Galera in Feb this year. It's the same ole arm pit with a little above average diving, but I loved it ! For you non divers, check out the floating bar, the blue "Sunshine resort" one. They will lend you snorkeling gear to use right off the bar. In a 20 minute snorkel I saw a couple rays, a snowflake moray, a school of coral cats, and a mantis shrimp plus lots of little common fish. They no longer allow the girls to fish and they feed the fish. So there's lots of life around.
I stayed at the "Steps" resort (formerly kn own as the Terraces). Great place. Get a cottage high up (number 15 is my favorite) without aircon. The breeze is enough. Great service, friendly folks and a super value. Oh, and it's far enough away from the bars that it's quiet enough, but still pretty easy access.
The same was not true of my former favorite Ermita hotel. Lotus Garden screwed me. I showed up, as I usually do, without a resrv. They were full. I asked them to call City State Tower, as I was using Si-kat to get to PG. I was told by the Lotus Garden staff that City Tower was full. So they booked me into one of Lotus Gardens partner hotels. OK room but 3500 piso. Too much. I was tired and took it. Later, while cruising around, I stopped into City State to make my Si-kat resvr. and decideed to talk to the front desk. They told me they had lots of rooms and I could have stayed for 1700 P. I've been a long time fan of Lotus Garden but, no mas.
I also got crap service from the Puerto Galera dive center of Atlantis. Another former favorite.
I am awaiting news of a job possibility, so all trips are on hold for now.
Good travels,
FD
PS: I will post additional dive reports in the Phuket section.
Hello
I expect to spend a pleasant few months in the Philippines, mostly Mindanao, over the next several months.
1. If I go around Mindanao by bus, what are the chances of hijacking, thefts?
2. Where precisely can I buy sex toys in Manila?
3. Is there anywhere in Mindanao in particular with cheap, local and dirty "anything goes" sex? I am particularly interested in holing up in a cheap, local brothel and fucking my brains out with as amny skanks as I can get through. Places like AC do not interest me at all. Thanks.
Domino:
PM me and I will give you some places here in Davao, CDO, and Zamboanga if you like. You should be okay taking buses during the day, but don't even think about it after sunset as the risk is just too high. There are dozens of "casas" here in Davao that should meet your needs.
GE
Firedick:
In the last two weeks, I've seen a manta ray, two turtles and a lot of squid in Davao Gulf. My friends saw a whale shark, but I was not with them. The Coral Gardens in Tillikud and the dive sites off Big Ligid are not bad at all. We've also seen a lot of small tuna around lately, and innumerable giant clams. All of this stuff has been between 25-30 meters.
GE
[QUOTE=GoodEnough]Domino: PM me and I will give you some places here in Davao, CDO, and Zamboanga if you like. You should be okay taking buses during the day, but don't even think about it after sunset as the risk is just too high. There are dozens of "casas" here in Davao that should meet your needs. GE[/QUOTE]
Why not just post the places here? I have seen no reports of same and I scored ok on that front in Davao last time out.
Are bus hijackings common? What happens at night that we should not even think about it? And if we should not even think about traveling at night, why do people travel at night? I intend to just ramble and go wherever the buses go. I expect most of my travel to be done early morning but I would like to know the risks and the rewards.
No, bus hijackings are not common, but they're not unknown. Neither are robberies mixed with violence, and neither is kidnapping, though the latter is admittedly somewhat farfetched. The fact is, as an expat using public transportation in Mindanao, you are vulnerable and during the night, the roads are not protected and shit happens. Is it likely? No it's not, but it's a hell of a lot more plausible during the night than during the day for reasons I've stated elsewhere.
As to the addresses, I do not have them as I do not go to these palces any more and the locations change frequently. I have several friends however, who do go, and I can get you a list if you like.
GE
OK. Please don't flame, and I don't mean to turn this into a scuba forum. But just a couple of more scuba diving question and I promise I'll return to the topic of muff diving:
1. Any suggestion on dive outfit in southern Leyte and Davao? I know Donsol IS the place for whale shark, but November I believe is out of season. Anyone has any experience with whale shark in southern Leyte?
2. Good Enough - who did you go with in Davao? How are the prices?
OK. Back to the subject of muff diving :
Good Enough - if you have the list, I wouldn;t mind getting a copy from you too. It's always been my fantasy to go to a cheap brothel and screwed my head off (little head). I'm looking at Davao, Cagayan De Oro, Cebu, Dumaguete, Southern Leyte, and Manila. I'm also going to Angeles City on my trip, but I think I shouldn't require any assistance in finding th ***** houses there?? LOL
CA Traveler - It's kind of funny - all the places you listed, I've got chicks kind of lined up too. Hope they're not the same ones you have. Let me know how you make out. A naive question (as I'm new to these chatroom chicks), how are they with you online? Mine are all behaving properly and seems like nice girls - I'm hoping they'll be totally different and naughty when I get there. Have you been talking to them explicitly about sex?
nightrider1 - same questions about chicks from Filipina Heart. I'm actually printing out the page for each girl just to keep them straight. Sometimes I have 4 Yahoo messenger going at the same time. Boy, it a lot of work. I sure hope it pays off. However, I tell each that I may meet 2 or 3 other ladies while I'm in Phil, but they're the first one I'm meeting so I may change my mind and not meet anyone else after I've met her. I find it more credible if I tell them I "may" meet 2 or 3 other women while I'm there. I don't think anyone would really believe you if you tell them you're flying halfway around the world to meet them only. My dilemma is, do you come right out and tell them you want to screw their brains off? Or do you play the nice guy until you get there? I really think these girls kind of have some inkling as to what we're after...I mean Filipina Hearts is really a meat market, right? Anyway, so far, I haven;t really been naughty with any of the girls I've met online yet.
Any advice?
Diver69
CA Traveler!
You are bad!
Me - I'm a scandinavian, traveling frequently also to the baltic countries and Russia, but we seldom see such ladies that you posted here. Blondes are fun, right?
In Manila, if staying a night or two, I would stay at The Heritage which is a few minutes walk to the EDSA complex, and 10 minutes from Ermita, or 10 minutes from Bourgos Street. Also about 10-15 minutes from the New Entertainment Centre near the old domestic airport, where you will find little competition, since very few customers yet, but PLENTY of ladies. And not least - Only 15 minutes (or maybe even less) from the airport when you are leaving for the south.
I am sure you will be succesful throughout the 7107 islands of the RP. :)
[QUOTE=CA Traveler]Thanks, sounds good... I'm actually only going to stay one night then head south. I'm looking forward to sampling the delights of the PI.
Here is a little change of pace from the Asian girls if you'd like to see some of the Russki variety...[/QUOTE]
marconista.... Variety is the spice of life! Don't we know! :)
D69... would not surprise me in the least! However, I don't use the chat rooms... only email. Who knows there are so damn many fil chicks available. However that said, there have been a couple that I thought were playing games and were probably 50 y.o. guys looking for a way to scam a poor old American out of his pension check. Unfortuntely for them, I don't have pension check so I am very protective of what little I have! :)
[QUOTE=Diver69]OK.
1. Any suggestion on dive outfit in southern Leyte and Davao? I know Donsol IS the place for whale shark, but November I believe is out of season. Anyone has any experience with whale shark in southern Leyte?
2. Good Enough - who did you go with in Davao? How are the prices?
OK. Back to the subject of muff diving :
Good Enough - if you have the list, I wouldn;t mind getting a copy from you too. It's always been my fantasy to go to a cheap brothel and screwed my head off (little head). I'm looking at Davao, Cagayan De Oro, Cebu, Dumaguete, Southern Leyte, and Manila. I'm also going to Angeles City on my trip, but I think I shouldn't require any assistance in finding th ***** houses there?? LOL
Diver69[/QUOTE]
Diver 69:
There are three dive shops here: Pro Dive, Wind and Wave and Carabao. The first two organize dives every week end, but in my opinion Wind and Wave is a rip off and I never go with them. Pro Dive charges only for the cost of the boat (usually about PhP300 per head) and the tanks (usually 2 at PhP150) so the entire day will cost you somewhere around PhP600, or about $11.00. I usually do not dive with any dive shop, but with a group of friends, all of whom like to dive every week. Today, for example, we had two great dives (and saw a beautiful turtle) and the cost per head was PhP280 for the boat and again, PhP150 per tank since we used Pro Dive's tanks. If you're interested in joining us while you're here, send me a PM and we can include you easily. If you need equipment, it will cost you about PhP1,000 ($18.50) for the day, not including tanks.
I will try to get a list together this week after I check with some friends. As I said before, the locations of these places change so frequently that I'm sure my information is out of date.
:D
GE
[QUOTE=Diver69]Thanks for the advice and invitation. We'll hook up for a few cold ones when I get there.
I read in Lonely Planet that the whale sharks go to Sogod Bay and Liloan Bay near Padre Burgos, so I'm hoping to go for a few dives there and hope to see them.
I've heard about thresher sharks at Malapuscua, but I hear they are seen very often anymore. I'm going to Apo Island near Dumaguete this trip, and according to Dragon Slayer, chicks are ripe for the picking in Dumaguete. However, last time I was there, I couldn't find anythig. Have to make sure to get detailed info before I go this time.THERE ARE LOTS OF THEM ALONG RIZAL BOULEVARD AND THE BARS NEAR SILLIMAN UNIVERSITY,PART TIMING STUDENTS
Thanks for the suggestion to fly to Davao instead of travelling by road. How much is the flight from Cagayan to Davao? Also, can you fly from Davao directly to Manila? And how much? I want to go to Manila and try Angeles City this trip. Heard so much about it - gotta try it.YOU CAN FLY DIRECTLY FROM DAVAO TO MANILA BY CEBU PACIFIC OR PAL,ITS ABOUT 3 THOUSAND PESOS OR 55 US DOLLARS ONE WAY,HERE IS ANOTHER OPTION ASIAN SPIRIT AND SEA AIR FLY DAILY FROM CEBU TO BORACAY,THEN THEY BOTH HAVE DAILY FLIGHTS FROM BORACAY DIRECTLY TO CLARK(ANGELES).EITHER TRANSIT OR SPEND A DAY OR SO IN BORACAY THEN HEAD ON TO CLARK
As far as diving in Canada goes - I got certified here, and that was the last time I dove here. Way too cold.I TOTALLY AGREE
Hope to see some of the members in Asia when I get there in Nov.
Keep cool.
Diver69[/QUOTE]Best Regards See you when you get down here
[QUOTE=Domino]Hello
I expect to spend a pleasant few months in the Philippines, mostly Mindanao, over the next several months.
1. If I go around Mindanao by bus, what are the chances of hijacking, thefts?
2. Where precisely can I buy sex toys in Manila?
3. Is there anywhere in Mindanao in particular with cheap, local and dirty "anything goes" sex? I am particularly interested in holing up in a cheap, local brothel and fucking my brains out with as amny skanks as I can get through. Places like AC do not interest me at all. Thanks.[/QUOTE]
Better than Bare Ground Floor BSA Mansions,Benavidez Street,Legaspi Village,Makati, a 5 minute walk from greenbelt mall,Bare Neccesities, Ali Mall,Cubao,Quezon city.Hope this solves your problem
Marco
New Entertainment Centre near the old domestic airport, where you will find little competition, since very few customers yet, but PLENTY of ladies.
Tell us more !
D69,
Sometimes I wonder if the online girls are worth the hassle. Well, nice to have such troubles. Have you done this before? Well, I'm certainly no expert, but....here's what I've learned.
My experience is they will almost always show up with one or more chaperones. Often one of the chaperones looks better than the original target. Getting laid the first night is probably about 20% or less...depending on how charming you are and how naughty the chaperones might be. One lady showed up with an older chaperone -- a single mom. She slept in the next bed while I banged her friend. :-) Months later, we crossed paths in the chat rooms and she (the chaperone) told me how much SHE wanted to meet me.
Often they will invite you to their homes...where they'll show you off to they're friends and family. If you do this, your chances go up considerably -- but at a later time obviously. Depends on how much time you want to invest. Even if things don't pan out, these trips to local areas can be quite interesting.
You want to weed out the virgins and innocents right away. I do that by mentioning the beach. Then joke with them , "Please send me a bikini picture." If they seem offended....that's a bad sign. Of course, if she already has a child, you can be pretty sure she'll put out.
Generally, I play the nice guy, but lay down some hints as I have described above. Like you, I prefer to be honest. I say something like, "I'm just looking for friends, but if something clicks...."
And my favorite "joke" is copyright protected so you owe me a beer every time you use it. "Please don't send me any nudes, I'm shy."
BTW, I found that CB tends to have a lot of Mindanao ladies. How's FilH? Many at CB definitely seem be wary of guys coming over for fun, but not a committment. Too bad.
And GE, I'd like a copy of that list too if you get it compiled.
[QUOTE=Diver69]Good Enough - if you have the list, I wouldn;t mind getting a copy from you too.
CA Traveler - It's kind of funny - all the places you listed, I've got chicks kind of lined up too. (SNIP) I'm hoping they'll be totally different and naughty when I get there. Have you been talking to them explicitly about sex?
(SNIP)
Any advice?
Diver69[/QUOTE]
Guys,
My suggestion regarding the online chicks is to let them know you'll be in a nearby area (perhaps a neighboring town) and see if they are willing to travel to meet you. I think it is much less likely that you will have problems if it is clear to them that they will be expected to travel to the location where you are staying and spend the night. It would be easier to duck out before the evening is over if you were in the same town where she lived.
They won't always have the money to travel far, but perhaps you can arrange your stay so that you will be within a short bus ride and yet get them out of their environs.
Hi FD,
Here is the link to my post in February this year.
[url]http://www.*************.info/forum/showpost.php?p=339448&postcount=975[/url]
Spending a few nights there might do you good, as they were all over us when we entered each bar :)
[QUOTE=Firedick]Marco
New Entertainment Centre near the old domestic airport, where you will find little competition, since very few customers yet, but PLENTY of ladies.
Tell us more ![/QUOTE]
Thanks Marco,
I'll check it out, whenever I can get back.
FD
Full tilt has some good advice about getting them out of their "environs". I've never made any special effort to travel to their place for the FIRST meeting, although I've had many ask me if I wanted to go back to their place shortly after the first meeting. By "back to their place" I mean they wanted me to meet their firends and family.
Having them come to you is fine, but like I said already....they'll usually show up with chaperone(s). Show the chaperone what a nice guy you are....that's one way to get off on the right foot.
X
Hi mongers
Where is the best place to go in Philippines if you have 3 days; women, women, women.............nothing else
[QUOTE=ManonsanBoy]Hi mongers
Where is the best place to go in Philippines if you have 3 days; women, women, women.............nothing else[/QUOTE]
Everywhere Angeles City-go wild on Fields Avenue Manila-Pasay,LA Cafe etcMakati-Burgos Street,Cebu,Davao......
Thanks to all who responded to my posts.
CA Traveler - I have had quite a few who asked for money - what I do is to turn around and tell them to send me nude pics, that will end it right then and there. There was one who sent me pics from a magazine (of a white girl) and claimed it was her. It was kind of funny actually. I also don't chat or e-mail anyone who don't send me her pics...So, I hope that will weed out the 50 y.o. imposters.
GE - I will pm you and we can hook up for some diving (I have both kinds in mind). Thanks for the great info. Looking forward to your list.
Cebu Local - I'll pm you as well and we'l hook up for beers and girls.
X Man - I'm brand new to the internet chicks. I'm hoping a few of them will work out. I don't mind paying for playing, but it's the hunt that adds to the excitement, I guess. Besides, if these girls don't work out, I can always find some pros to satisfy the needs. Thanks for the great advice, 20% success rate on the first night is not bad. I'll try to get the ones with kids, if as you said, they're more willing.
That's a funny story about the cheperone who wanted you. Did you kick yourself for not doing them tag team right then and there? :-)
I'm not really into meeting the family and stuff...kind of make me nervous, plus, I don't really have too much time to invest into that kind of things.
A sign of how ne I am with this internet chicks thing - I don't even know what CB is.
Well, I've a few months to start getting naughty with the girls. Actually, one has already agreed to accompany to a resort - any resort (I didn't mention any specific name), I guess that's a good sign. I've also been dropping hints about their looks and their bodies, and so far, only one has been offended enough to turn off the webcam on me. I'll be owing you quite a few beers when we meet, because I fully intend to pirate your copyrighted joke!
I think I would prefer to have them bring female cheperone instead of male ones. One has asked me if she could bring her brother with her. I'm kind of scratching my head - don't these guys and gals have any clue what we're after? What's the point of bringing a cheperone if you know that you're gonna have to put out eventually (hopefully sooner than later). And the male chaperone, if they have half a brain, they'll know what we're after, right? So, being a chaperone is almost like being a pimp, but in a nice way. Sorry if I offend anyone with my comments/thoughts. May be I'm missing some cultural stuff here.
Anyway, I'll be posting more questions before my trip, and I promise I will report once I've had my trip.
Diver69
Diver 69,
As for the chaperones, that's just the way things are done in PI. Anyway, it makes sense for safety reasons.
When I first visited PI many years ago I seem to remember taking a woman to a movie had sexual connotations. I guess it's dark inside and the Fil boys would get a feel. Is this still true? Has anyone heard anything like this before. I bring it up because you might ask a girl out to a movie...if she's willing, you're on first base.
I've attached a picture taken on the moutain above Cebu city. Online friend and two chaperones....OOPS, maybe not. Apparently I've already uploaded this picture in the Cebu file and WSG won't let me upload it again.
ALSO....I'll be in the Philippines July 21 - Aug. 8. Anyone have time to meet up. I'll probably Do MLA, Cebu and maybe Davao.
[QUOTE=X Man]Diver 69,
As for the chaperones, that's just the way things are done in PI. Anyway, it makes sense for safety reasons.
When I first visited PI many years ago I seem to remember taking a woman to a movie had sexual connotations. I guess it's dark inside and the Fil boys would get a feel. Is this still true? Has anyone heard anything like this before. I bring it up because you might ask a girl out to a movie...if she's willing, you're on first base.
I've attached a picture taken on the moutain above Cebu city. Online friend and two chaperones....OOPS, maybe not. Apparently I've already uploaded this picture in the Cebu file and WSG won't let me upload it again.
ALSO....I'll be in the Philippines July 21 - Aug. 8. Anyone have time to meet up. I'll probably Do MLA, Cebu and maybe Davao.[/QUOTE]
Xman, if you decide to come through Davao, drop mr a PM and we can get together for a few beers, a meal or whatever.
Thanks folks.
I think dinner and movie will be the first move for me. For those who have shown "potential" (playfulness online), I may try to move a little faster.
Hopefully CA Traveler will share his stories with us upon his return.
Good luck, pal.
Keep us posted, and I will do same at the end of my trip.
Diver69
d69... you'd better be thankful that she didn't want to bring her dad along! So far, I have had much better results writing the Fil girls than I have writing the Russian/Ukrainian girls. So far, no one has suggested bringing along a chaperone. Although most have asked me to send money for their travel to Cebu.
However, from what I read, I am a little worried that it may be very hard to get rid of one of these girls once you've actually hooked up with her. This can happen in Russia, but it is a pretty common practice to balance out your first dates with a second date later in the evening where you are virtually assured that before the night is over you will have had a chance to lose your PBF... Precious Bodily Fluids... If that fails there are still several other options that are available for most of the night to relieve the symptoms of the late-night blue balls... I hate when that happens!
So, I continue pounding out responses to the Fil girls, not really knowing if I would be better off just waiting until I arrive and then head out prospecting on my own anyway... I guess time will tell which is the best approach.
Right now, I am on my way to Odessa in the Ukraine to study Russian in the day and party at the beach bars all night... Should be an interesting month!
Don't worry... you will be able to read all about Odessa in July/August and Cebu and Thailand in September with photos with any luck!
CA Traveler,
That's funny, bring her dad. Why bother when she can find a sugar daddy waiting to bang her?
I am always more encouraged when they want to bring a sister or a cousin, but one actually mentioned bringing sister AND brother when I mentioned going to a resort. Why pass up a goo ddeal when someone is picking up the bill. You can guess my response to that request. At least with a sister or a female cousin, there's always a possibility of scoring both the subject and her chaperone - nothing better than a good tag team :-)
As for whether all the effort is worth it, I guess you will have to let us know at the end of your trip. I guess the primate in us still live for the hunt!
Have fun.
Diver69
[b]Gentlemen,[/b]
In my time l have received a number of pm’s but I recently something appeared in my in-box that I had to think long and hard about before I could answer it.
[b]Clandestine782[/b] sent me a pm asking me for advice on where to find bareback sex in the Philippines, as he was getting mixed messages? I was confused as to why he was asking me as I don’t believe he had actually read any of my posts to know of my views on the subject?
I appreciate that this is a web site dedicated to exchanging information about sex, but we should not be promoting dangerous sexual practices. One, if such a place existed I would not say period! And two, even if it did we should not be promoting such practices here.
I say this because if we are promoting bareback sex all that will happen is we are sending out the wrong message, and believe me that a lot of information that appears in this forum also appears on others. The last thing I want to do is say to guys who have HIV, Herpes and various other things that its OK to go to the Philippines and spread your shit about, if you toss these girls a few Pesos.
And if you think that’s a gross exaggeration, just this week in the UK a 20 year old woman, who has been HIV positive since she was 15, was jailed for having unprotected sex with up to 50 men, while she had a boyfriend who didn't know she was HIV positive, passing on the virus. A guy in Sweden was jailed a couple of years ago for much of the same thing and on and on. So the last thing I want to do is give the green light to anyone coming to the Philippines just to spread their shit.
Yes, I have strong views but Clandestine782 if you want bareback sex in the Philippines I suggest that you simply put a ring on that finger and marry the girl - it’s as simple as that. If you can get it, as you would in any other country like Thailand, Brazil or the Dominican Republic all well and good but its an exception to the rule and not the norm, let’s not send out the wrong messages here.
It concerns me that people often believe that to an extent its OK to exploit Philippinos judging from some of the things I have seen posted in the past. But I do actually keep in touch with many girls there by e-mails and text messages and connect with many, I will be regularly going back, so you tell me do I want to ruin the market?
The golden rule is enjoy yourself but we should leave it as we find it for others.
Junior, I agree.
There are also those who do use protection, but are so drunk that they usually end up doing bareback anyway, without being aware of it. I always use protection and prefer bar girls rather than freelance such as in LA Cafe - at least bar girls have to take regular blood tests for employment, which is some assurance. Worth checking for genital worts as well, these are so contagious that one can get these nasties even around a condom or hand transmission (see websites).
I posted an article in the section "The Truth about HIV," which stated that the HIV infection rate in sex workers in the PI was less than 1% almost everywhere. And in the places that it was greater than 1%, it was less than 2%.
If you calculate the probability of coming back with an HIV infection (knowing that HIV is one of the most deadly viruses but NOT one of the most virulent) after, say, a week of bareback sex you would find that the chance that you died in a car crash in the PI was actually higher.
I appreciate your consideration for the working girls, but could you please remember that a new pontiff has already been elected (Benedict XVI).
I think the number one reason for using condoms should be to protect the girls, not the educated monger. The chances of the girl getting HIV from an infected barebacking monger is very high, because she is receiving the infected sperm. She must also worry about unwanted pregnancies and other infections. The girls will go bareback because they need the money.
The reason to encourage the use of condoms should not be for selfish reasons, that is, "protect myself". Instead, use a condom to protect the girl!
Clandestine. Sorry man, not trying to flame you, but I disagree. I apologize if you think I'm also pontificating. However, 1% (or less) may seem to be a small number, but 1% of a large population adds up to a very large number of poor girls with HIV. That is sadly 1% too many!
The Pope also believes we should not use condoms and, therefore, some pharmacies in Manila refuse to sell them. It's ironic, on this issue the Pope would agree with you.
Santa,
Don't waste your time trying to turn around Clandestine's way of thinking. At the risk of sounding like a racist, this African-American (Clandestine) makes it a sport of infecting and impregnating as many people as he can because he just does not care about hurting poor ignorant third world girls. According to his previous posts, he doesn't like black chicks and the only white chicks he could get in the U.S. are pigs. The P.I. is the perfect place for a person like him to take out his aggression on the world for making him black. Until he reaches the age where he actually develops a conscience, Clandestine will continue to behave in the exact manner of the brothers he hates back home.
Hi,
After I’ve spent a dozen times in Thailand, Laos, Cambodia and Vietnam, I am planning my 1st trip to the Philippines next January where I’ll spent the most of my 3 weeks scuba diving and sightseeing on Palawan (Coron, El Nido and Puerto Princessa I guess).
I will be arriving in Manila on the 10th Jan and want to take the ferry from Manila to Coron on the 14th Jan, so I will only have 3 nights on Luzon to find the “girl of my dreams”! Where do I have the best chance to find Miss Right? Angeles (and perhaps steady barfine)? Subic (I could dive during daytime then), Manila or any other places?
Any do’s / don’ts while taking a girl for 3 weeks?
I want a girl in her early twenties (I am only 31 myself), fun to be with, good looking (although attitude is more important then looks though), speaking some English so we can have some conversations, and a BBJCIM is my big turn on!
Since you have a lot of months before the trip I would prepare the way by meeting girls online. You can find girls in 3 days in all those places you mentioned but it will be a bit of a crap shoot whether you'll find one that you want to spend serious time with. Just enter into several chat services, make sure you do webcam chats so you can be more sure if she's your type.
Also, the days you mentioned may still be winter break for some university girls. So you could find one that's free to travel with you. No need to limit yourself to bar girls. Happy hunting.
[QUOTE=Face Pisser]
Clandestine talks about having the worst case of Gonorrhea in the "history of the world", yet he's he's still looking for bareback sex...HELLO McFly...! His attitude is common amoung AA's (selfish and lazy). They should be banned from PI. Let's face it, PI is one of the last places on EARTH where a good, decent person can find the girl of his dreams. A girl that has not been VICTIMIZED by the diseases of Clandestine, Asian Rain and "lil' fella" Deep Diver. The less PI is exposed to these diseased "homies" the better. IMHO.
FP[/QUOTE]
[b]Face Pisser[/b]
Frankly, I am amazed at your pathetic rant has actually been posted here. As a [b]BLACK MAN[/b], and proud of the fact, I guess I would qualify as an [b]“AA”[/b] even though I am from the UK, my parents are from Jamaica, but my skin is not white. So does this mean Asian Rain and Deep Diver are also black?
According to you I am a [i]selfish, lazy and a diseased homie[/i] that should be banned from the Philippines? My dick has seen more action by aged 35, than you are likely to in a lifetime to pal and you call me lazy? I am not selfish but admit to being arrogant, if I wasn’t I would not have got to where I am in life, listening to fools like you.
Clandestine readily admits he is not a proud black male – however I am, so don’t generalize with your rubbish; there is no room here for your stereo typical racist banter, so do us all a favour and [b]Shut The Fuck Up![/b] How about renaming yourself again to [b]"Talking out of your Arse?"[/b]
Juniour
Hey Juniour,
A Jamaican living in the U.K.? By any chance have you been in any London subways lately? Seriously dude, you need to lighten up a bit (no pun intended). Remember it was you who put it most eloquently by saying "you should leave the market as you find it."
[QUOTE=Tee It Up]Hey Juniour,
A Jamaican living in the U.K.? By any chance have you been in any London subways lately? ."[/QUOTE]
Just to correct you on a couple of points first, I said my parents are from Jamaica, I was born here, in the same way in which Colin Powell is an American citizen I am a British citizen (get it!)
Second, we don’t have subways in the UK we have an underground system, Paris has a Metro and yes thanks I use them every day, when I am home.
Third, I don’t intend to lighten up,(pun or no pun intended) when we have people who are obviously racist – your pal's comments were not funny nor clever just plain and simple racist, as were the comments earlier to Deep Diver who is of Mediterranean origin. I suggest you go and check the Forum guidelines because to me that was race bating.
Fourth, I have been to near on 40 countries and I have always left the market as I have found it – if not with a positive attitude of people of colour.
I have met plenty of assholes like your pals, all over the world in my travels, who have nothing going on in their lives but regret arriving in these third world countries about 200 years too late to lord it over the locals like they are “The Man”. I once met an American writer in Bangkok many years ago who described people with your pal’s attitude as “Ugly Americans” who should never be allowed to leave the country, because people then have the impression that all Americans are like that, when as we all know this is not the case.
So finally, when are you two actually going to contribute something positive to the forum instead of tittle tattle of golden rain related nonsense?
Juniour, Juniour, Juniour, you need to lay off the caffeine for a while and get back on the Jamaican buds. I think it’s a stretch for you comparing yourself to Colin Powell. Yep, you are right when you called yourself arrogant.
I’m sure you have met plenty of assholes (Birds of a feather flock together). In fact, you have your own thread! I’m curious, when you visit the P.I., do you get shutdown a lot when you want to barfine a chick based on your color and dreadlocks? The only reason I ask is I’ve been a little surprised at the lack of talent in you photo’s. The mongers here should realize there’s MUCH better talent here than you have displayed.
Anyway, I think we can resolve this by you, me and Mikster meeting next time you are in town. You bring the buds and I’ll bring the Bob Marley CD’s and the three of us can solve all the world’s problems. Ah Ha Ha Ha...
[QUOTE=Juniour]Your pal's comments were not funny nor clever just plain and simple racist. I suggest you go and check the Forum guidelines because to me that was race bating.[/QUOTE]The day of the apocolypse has arrived, a snowstorm grips Makati:
I always knew there would come a day I would be forced to agree with Juniour about something. This is that day.
If post #378 is not vile enough to get someone booted off this forum, what possibly could? Is any responsible adult minding this store? The resort to crude racial slurs is sickening, and renders any other content of the post irrelevant. Disgusting behavior, stupid beyond words, and there is nothing American about it. Pardon me while I go vomit.
Under no circumstances should any man with any shred of character or integrity ever "lighten up" in the face of this kind of evil sickness. It has killed more than any physical illness. The only acceptable response is to get up in his face and stay there.
Sincerely,
An American
Wastrel,
After reading your post I can picture you, Juniour and Clandestine at LA Cafe locked arm in arm, swaying back and forth singing “We Are The World” with the ladies giggling in the background.
Seriously, even though FP’s “selfish and lazy” comment was out of line remember the “race card” was first played by Clandestine, and Juniour even admits Clandestine hates the color of his own skin. Has this forum become so “politically correct” that a white person cannot discuss these things without being called a racist?
As a fan of your many postings, let’s get back to your dry wit reports and stop taking this shit too serious. We are fortunate to be able to exchange thoughts on touchy subjects of race, religion and even sex and I don’t think you should bash the owner of this forum for allowing this kind of discussion.
Now do me a favor, go catch a Celine Dion show out there in Vegas and stay out of the sun.
[b]Tio & FP[/b]
Amazing, I don’t know whether to be angry or sad for you both, because looking at your last couple of posts I think I am dealing with two 15 year old boys here; what happened did some girl turn you down because your shit is too small? I am not surprised in the way you are voraciously defending your racist rants, come on guys by now you should realise that the English drink of choice is tea not coffee, what did you ever learn in school? However, I must admit you two are spot on with my description, as an [i]aggressive dreadlocked, black male or even a diseased "homie”[/i], have you been spying on me?
To answer your question, yes you may be right about my experiences being shutdown or [i]blown out[/i] as we call it here, in the LA Café I can never understand why it is that I am left with only all the vile old toothless dogs at 3000+ pesos short time while the other guys, no doubt like yourselves are with the models, part-time students, beauty queen and solid 10s and the likes at only 500 Pesos all night.
You are not the first person to mention that many of the girls in my photos are not all that, so let’s see why don’t you two actually try posting a report and share your photos something I have also mentioned to the other clowns – up to this date I can not find one single post from the pair of you nor one single photo. However, I can find posts from many others you have flamed in your short time on the forum Asian Rain, Deep Diver but let’s see what you’ve got here boys.
I look forward to seeing your posts; keep this up and Dumb and Dumber will be soon out of a job. Now come on guys after me, one, two, three...[i]"We are the world"[/i]
[b]Juniour[/b]
[QUOTE=Juniour][b]Tio & FP[/b]
Now come on guys after me, one, two, three...[i]"We are the world"[/i]
[b]Juniour[/b][/QUOTE]Perhaps after you sing “We are the world” you guys could quickly chime in with “Ebony and Ivory”. You guys will have the LA Café girls howling with laughter as Clandestine escorts them away to catch the next latest and greatest STD.
I’m glad to see you are finally loosening up a little bit. I’m leaving next week for the P.I.. I’ll try and get some photos just for you but please don’t track them down if they send a message saying they don’t like Rastafarian’s. Deal?
[QUOTE=Tee It Up]Has this forum become so “politically correct” that a white person cannot discuss these things without being called a racist?[/QUOTE]I hope the forum is not so far into the sewer that a racist isn't even identified as a racist. Those remarks were the definition of racism; it's not a close call. That sickening crap would get you thrown in the stockade in leg irons with a dishonorable dischange from the US military, kicked to the curb by security and banned from the premises from any casino in Vegas, fired by any major employer, evicted by any property manager. Polictical correctness has nothing to do with it. I am a politically conservative white guy, and I would personally do the firing and evicting with great enthusiasm if some scum did that in my place of business, and so would virtually anyone else. One should be called racist when they are, in fact, clearly racist, and not feign surprise when others react with revulsion.
[QUOTE=Wastrel]I hope the forum is not so far into the sewer that a racist isn't even identified as a racist. Those remarks were the definition of racism; it's not a close call. That sickening crap would get you thrown in the stockade in leg irons with a dishonorable dischange from the US military, kicked to the curb by security and banned from the premises from any casino in Vegas, fired by any major employer, evicted by any property manager. Polictical correctness has nothing to do with it. I am a politically conservative white guy, and I would personally do the firing and evicting with great enthusiasm if some scum did that in my place of business, and so would virtually anyone else. One should be called racist when they are, in fact, clearly racist, and not feign surprise when others react with revulsion.[/QUOTE]Wastrel,
You would have fit right in on the jury of the O.J. Simpson trial. All it takes is for a black man (OJ) to call a white man (Mark Furman) a racist and a jury let's the guy off for murder. That's almost what you are endorsing for Clandestine.
Congratulations. Whatever makes you feel better.
[quote=tee it up]wastrel,
you would have fit right in on the jury of the o.j. simpson trial. all it takes is for a black man (oj) to call a white man (mark furman) a racist and a jury let's the guy off for murder. that's almost what you are endorsing for clandestine.[/quote]
tiu,
you seem to be missing the point here, so let me break it down for you.
fp made some racists remarks that have no place in a civilized society, but for some reason he is unable to speak up for himself, which is why you are speaking for him.
but i suggest before you start typing some clever response that you actually go back and read what your pal had said and then read it again. because those sweeping racist comments were not in any way anything to do with discussing racial issues, they were.
[center][b]“plain and simply racist comments”[/b][/center]
you keep defending this freedom of speech line, that is acceptable but what fp did was dragging the forum to a new low. from what i can understand what you and fp are saying is that: [b][i] “all black people share the same views as clandestine, are all diseased homies, and if we are not with you we are all against you?”[/i][/b]
oj simpson is a “rich celebrity”, who happened to be black i am sure any other "rich celebrity", black, white, hispanic or asian with have no doubt got the same verdict. it was certainly not a black or white issues it’s a simple rich famous celebrity issue. do you know how many people have accused police of being racist and are currently behind bars doing life sentences or on death row?
everybody on this forum has their own opinions on what constitutes “a hot girl”, the best places to go for mongering and how much they want to pay. however, one thing we are agreed on is that the comments were way out of line.
Juniour and Wastrel,
I must say how happy I am for bringing you two together on this race issue. It seems like only yesterday you whankers were quibbling over whether or not you can drink the tap water in the P.I. Just think how close you two are now. I feel I should send you a bill for my services. Believe me, it’s not easy bringing together a paunchy, balding, middle aged conservative guy living in Las Vegas suffering from “White Guilt” with an angry, arrogant, dreadlocked Jamaican living in the U.K while roaming the subways of London.
Wastrel, I used to think you were a pretty intelligent guy. After reading post #388 suggesting you could throw me in the stockade with leg irons or evict me from my home suggests you have never been in the military nor know much about U.S. Law. In the meantime, continue to point your boney finger at me and call me a racist. Like I said, whatever makes you feel better.
Juniour, what can I say about you that has not already been said by countless other mongers. You are an arrogant, know-it-all Rastafarian who hates it when you get trumped with the ladies by a white guy. I can only suggest if you want to upgrade next time you are in the P.I., then lose the dreadlocks.
Clandestinie, an angry African-American who hates his skin color, where are you? Are you in a hospital being treated for HIV for your proclivity for bareback sex? How many innocent girls have you infected? Do you think they can afford the medical treatment you are getting?
Anyway boys, I’d love to continue this discussion but I’m about to begin my journey to the beautiful Philippine Islands. While Wastrel and Juniour are keeping themselves busy whacking themselves off, I will be with a couple of beautiful Filipina ladies having the time of my life. In the meantime, I will let the management at LA Café know you guys are practicing your “Ebony and Ivory” lyrics to entertain the ladies upon your arrival. Here are the lyrics:
Ebony and ivory live together in perfect harmony.
Side by side on my piano keyboard, oh lord, why don’t we?
We all know that people are the same where ever we go.
There is good and bad in everyone,
We learn to live, we learn to give.
Each other what we need to survive together alive.
Ebony and ivory live together in perfect harmony
Side by side on my piano keyboard, oh lord why don’t we?
Ebony, ivory living in perfect harmony
Ebony, ivory, ooh
why can't we all get along...and get back to posting about sex in the pi?
frankly this "race card" playing is getting old. slavery - which of course was a terrible thing - has been abolished for long now. nobody of us whities around now did partake in it. guaran-friggin-teed. unless you believe in inheritable sins, i think we should be considered innocent on that count.
in fact, some of us would argue that, today, more whites are being killed and raped by blacks than the other way around, and that many of those crimes are, if not outright racist, at least racially biased. but that's another discussion, perhaps more suitable to carry on on another board.
now, gentlemen, can we please get back on topic? thanks!
Thanks for some witty posts, TIU. I know I was chuckling when I read them, and I assume many others were too.
Without getting into who is right or wrong, I'll note that last year I posted a trip report on my one and only visit to Cartagena, Colombia wherein I had the temerity to note that this Caribbean city, unlike other Colombian cities, had a large black population that was poor. Well you can guess the rest. In this case, the 'white guilt contingent' was led by a humorless knowall named Surfer, a kind of Colombian version of Junior, if you will. I tried to engage them intelligently, even proffering the fact that I am married to a dark South American myself, and therefore, highly unlikely to be a racist, but it was futile. I was treated like I was Bull Connor or something. Your humor-laden approach is much better.
Like you, I was surprised at Wastrel. I remember him writing some very intelligent stuff.
I'll be in the PI myself in two weeks. The Peninsula in Makati offers an internet rate of $135 plus tax, which would get you a holiday Inn in the US, so I'll be there for several days, and then on to Boracay probably. This is an outstanding hotel and a perfect place to entertain female friends.
If anyone is in town 8/19-8/27, give me a shout.
Don
I was out, alone, last night in Zamboanga, and I happened to meet two US Mlitary guys, one black and one white, who invited me to join them. I had an excellent evening, and I was quietly reflecting to myself, being of an advanced enough age to remember some of the bitter struggles of the 60's, how far we had come as a nation. For one thing, the black guy, who was from Tennessee, outranked the white guy, who was from Detroit. For another, they were best friends. and for still another, the issue of race never came up. Amazing. And here are the two of you verbally duking it out like the last forty-five years or so have never happened. If you want to hate each other, fine with me. But for the sake of the rest of us, take it private, and base it on something a little more substantial than skin color and hair styles.
GE
[b]Pute Nut,[/b]
Agreed with your comments, but I am not aware of anyone playing the “race card”, here. I suggest you actually read back from post #388 and the following to get a clearer idea about what this argument is about. It was my understanding this is about a racist comments being posted on the forum, nothing to do with who has the biggest dick here (me).
[b]TIU[/b]
Yes, you sure told me a thing or two about myself; anyway we are waiting here with bated breath (and large box of tissues) for your post and photos, have a good trip!!
Just a couple of points:
“Wankers” is commonly spelt without the “h”
I believe Wastral and I disagreed about the quality of the ice in the bars and not the water.
We still do not have subways in London, it's an [u]Underground System.[/u]
But wait [b]Shock and horror[/b] what is this scandal on the forum?
[Quote=TIU] After reading post #388 suggesting you could throw [u]me[/u] in the stockade with leg irons or evict me from my home suggests you have never been in the military nor know much about U.S. Law. In the meantime, continue to point your boney finger at me and call me a racist. Like I said, whatever makes you feel better.[/quote]
If I am not mistaken it was your pal [b]FP[/b] who wrote those offending remarks in post #388? But you responded without any clear and rational thinking by saying:[b] “me”[/b], looks like you slipped up here pal, so TIU & FP are really the same person????? So you are logging onto the forum with two different ip addresses and e-mail address, just hope your boss doesn’t catch you at work posting on the ISG.
It all fits into place now, as to why you were so eager to defend your ‘alter ego’ – its kind of sad really that someone has to invent a second identity to make themselves look – like, well whatever you are trying to do there. Especially your silly golf [I]pissing[/I] incident, what the hell was that all about? It would have been more plausible if you had made up a story about scoring with five beauty queens that you picked up from the LA Café at 500 Pesos for 24 hours – even I would have believed that!
On your other comments What can you say that has not already been said about, [i]geeze thanks[/i] but I don’t come here for the platitudes, I don’t need you to kiss my ass as well, I leave that for the ladies, maybe there are people in Davoa who enjoy that type of thing but I am not one of them. On being “a know it all”, may I offer you some free bits of information, that you will find useful in your life ahead of you.
First, “If you want friends then buy yourself a dog." The second, if you want to appear intelligent then you should only discuss things that you know about. I get paid for what I know, not what I think.
I recommend that you also consider taking a vacation to London and Jamaica because you obviously have some warped ideas about Jamaica and Jamaicans [I]per se.[/I]
Thanks for your advise on upgrading my life, but [i]geeze thanks again[/i] for the tip but my life is pretty good right now, I usually fly business class on certain carriers where I can accumulate sufficient rewards to use for more flight or can pay for my stay in certain hotel chains used by the carriers. I personally don’t believe in trying to do things on the cheap because it’s a false economy you only get what you pay for in life – girls included.
But I am wondering how to be more like you because when I meet girls they always tend to hang around and keep in touch with me – I wish I could be more like you in a being a [I]wham bam, pay them, they’re gone type of guy.[/I] :D
Juniour
[QUOTE=Tee It Up]...suggesting you could throw me in the stockade with leg irons or evict me from my home suggests you have never been in the military nor know much about U.S. Law...[/QUOTE]No sir, I did not "suggest" it, I said so very directly and explicitly. Every recruit in the US Military is informed of this in no uncertain terms by an officer and an NCO as soon as they get off the bus in basic training, and that behavior while in the uniform of the USA most definitely will and has resulted in an immediate trip to the stockade and a dishonorable discharge. That has been true for decades, becuase it has long been the the policy that racist crap such as that will not be tolerated as it destroys unit cohesion and gets people killed in military operations, as well as being repugnant to everything the US military exists to defend. Please enlist in any branch of the service and try it and see what happens to you. I would pay to go back and watch. You will quickly find your jailhouse lawyering will not help you with the Uniform Code of Military Justice any more than it will get you to require a property owner or businessman to put up with you on his premises, and nearly any American business of any size INCLUDING THIS ONE has an explicit policy to throw out anyone engaging in such disgusting behavior. I have indeed evicted and terminated individuals engaging in that behavior, and will no doubt have occasion to do so again, and have never lost a contested case for such termination of tenancy or employment. Smell the coffee. Very few people of any political persuasion outside of a prison yard wish to tolerate crude sleazy racial slurs. You have every right to be a vile racist in your private life in your own trailer park if you wish, but not to require others to accomodate you or to be exempt from consequences when engaging in such sickening behavior. And no man of any character would ever give it indirect support through silence and let it pass. I think you knew that when you did it.
But just in case you are really so dense that you think that kind of thing is actually acceptable outside of some "polically correct" environment, or someone out there gets the idea this would actually be condoned by Americans, this is from the United States Air Force personnel manual describing offenses which every officer is required to report for disciplinary action or prosecution:
7.1.1.1. Incidents motivated by race, color, national origin...
7.1.2. Incidents may include, but are not limited to, the following elements: The use of a slur(s) based on race, color, national origin, religion or sex, vandalism/degrading graffiti, hate group activity, discriminatory epithets, signs or symbols.
Page 66,
AIR FORCE INSTRUCTION 36-2706
29 JULY 2004
Give me a f'in break Wastrel!
The AFA is the largest haven of extreme right-wing 'Christian' conservatives the federal government has ever hosted.
The second-in-command has had is second star held up and is possibly up for investigation for his heavy-handed discriminatory rhetoric.
You have some nerve holding up the USAF as a bastion for 'tolerance', citing code, blah, blah.
[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/22/AR2005062200598.html[/url]
[Quote=Face Pisser]Face Pisser and Tee it up are two different people. I'm sure when Tee it up takes a break from banging one of the hottest gals I've ever seen in the PI and reads your accusation about he and I being one in the same, he'll post a response. Just ask Jackson to check on the origination location of his post vs. mine[/Quote]
Yes, we believe you :) you're a sad, sad, sad, sad, pathetic man - give it up, you have been caught out! Get some help!
Juniour
What is a good daily budget not including plane fare but including:
- A clean well air-conditioned room with hot water and safe
- Meals
- Light to moderate drinking
- One girl a night, mostly but not exclusively the light-skinned KTV types
I plan to stay in the Manila area. My tastes are pretty discriminate, since there are plenty of philipinas in my home town, and I am not in the least dazzled by the exotica factor. I am pretty accurate with ages, and am looking for young hotties only.
[Quote=Face Pisser/ Tee It Up/ Dashing Don aka Jakers] Juniour, pay attention, this is typical defense mechanism. Whenever someone is getting their ass handed to them in a debate, they simply change the subject and try to discredit the person they are debating.[/quote]
[b][u]Yes this is true exactly what you are doing now, [/b][/u]so why don’t you explain yourself and your earlier comments, (down below) instead of jumping from subject to subject trying to steer us away from the real truth. Get some help man!!
Be careful in the internet café pal :D
Member 4020:
It really depends on the class of place in which you want to eat and where you will go for drinks. If you hang around the more upscale places, even if you're only spending $50 a day for a room, you better plan on about $200 per day. If you're ready to settle for a little less, you should be able to get by with about $125 - $150. If you want to eat at fast food joints, and drink beer in places like LA Cafe, then obviously you can get along for a lot less. Remember, if you pay bar fines, about the minimum you're going to have to pay is PhP2,000, which is about $36, so that will also put a hole in your wallet.
:D
GE
Junior,
Once and for all, I have no connection to FP or TIU. What made you think I did? Read my posts that span several years and places. There's no way that stuff could be made up.
If necessary, email jackson, who I've met on several occasions. Or Good Enough, who I've also met. They'll verify that I'm no cyber creation.
This is getting ridiculous.
If you keep this up, I'll be forced to enlist the assistance of Mikster to straighten this out. I know you don't want that.
Don
Actually Juniour, I don't want any part of this mess, but it's true, I did meet Dashing and my lady and I had dinner with him. I can certainly attest that he's an actual person, and a nice guy to boot.
GE
[QUOTE=Dashing Don]Junior,
Once and for all, I have no connection to FP or TIU. What made you think I did? .
If you keep this up, I'll be forced to enlist the assistance of Mikster to straighten this out. I know you don't want that.[/QUOTE]
[b]Dashing Don/ TIU/ FP,[/b]
I suppose you are not too familiar with the word “Embarrassment” you have reacted exactly as I would have expected.
[u]The bottom line is, keep your racist comments off the forum,[/u] you have been caught out pal. But honestly, how can you take seriously any man who has to resort to pathetic public threats?
Remember talk is cheap, but PM me I would love to meet up with you someday.
Juniour
Hey Jamaican Boy,
Whoa, just checked into my hotel here in Makati and fired up the laptop to discover how many personalities I have! Gee, in addition to being an alleged racist, now you’ve got me pegged as a person with more personalities than Cybil. After reading your many postings I can only assume you are suffering from an early stage of Mad Cow disease, a late stage of Syphilis or more likely been taking too many tokes off that Jamaican weed you’ve been selling in the London subways. Dude, you’re getting paranoid and your mind has turned into mush. I suggest you get some help ASAP.
I’ve got some more bad news for you. Remember recently a fellow monger mentioned to one of the ladies here in town that swallowing semen will make their skin turn white? Apparently, this rumor is rampant here on P. Burgos. Last night the topic was brought up at one of the bars I visited. Anyway, one of the gals asked me what would happen if a girl swallowed semen from an African (her words, not mine). I immediately thought of you and responded with a non committal “What do you think?” At that point, I noticed a rather unattractive gal (obviously one of Juniour’s conquests) staring at her forearms with a worried look on her face.
Seriously Juniour, instead of lecturing people here why don’t you just start your own forum and decide yourself who is worthy of posting. I’m sure you will have 2 hits per day, and I’m not talking about Jamaican weed here.
FP/TIU/Jakers & Dashin Don,
I must say I am disappointed by your last post I was expecting something full of “wit” there, (that’s what you keep telling yourself) instead I found a sad post from a pathetic man full of racial slurs. [u]Semen drinking??[/u] Do get real here buddy, where do you think you are, this is the Philippines not Mars. But I am not angry, I am just sorry for you, what went so terribly wrong in your life pal?
For a correction point, I did not say “alleged” racist, however, from your last tirade I would have to say “confirmed”. You have never acknowledged that post #388 was wrong instead you keep changing the subject, throwing dirt and attack anyone who also says it was wrong as being a white person filled with “white guilt” over slavery, frightened to discuss racial issues.
Anyway I am looking forward to reading your post and viewing your photos, should your fat ass manage to get it up. But you must be a genius pal, don’t you know in the bars at night there is only one color that matters and that is the color of your money. Keep shelling out the dough pal, the girls all need the latest cameraphones and we’re all waiting to read your posts.
Well, here’s a song for you: [i]“Oh, yes, I am the great pretender ♪ oh woo woo♪…..pretending that I’m doing well”[/i]
[size=1][b]GE,[/b] I appreciate that you have met DD but believe the others characters are all imaginary.[/size]
Why dont you kids (not gentlemen) SHUT THE FU*K UP, and get back to the mission of this forum, discussing ladies and P4P.
[QUOTE=Marconista]Why dont you kids (not gentlemen) SHUT THE FU*K UP, and get back to the mission of this forum, discussing ladies and P4P.[/QUOTE]
Kamusta Marconista
FYI there is an IGNORE function on the board,If the debate bothers you,It can be activated so you dont have to see their posts.Some people are using it on Sugar Bubba in the China Photo thread.So when will you be back?
Hey Rastafarian Boy,
You and your tubby friend from Las Vegas keep referring to post #388. Didn’t this start on #371 when you ratted on your bro Clandestine who sent you a PM asking about where to get bareback sex in the P.I.? I think you devastated the poor bastard when you outed him. Perhaps he was really coming on to YOU.
Anyway, I’d like to start a collection for you two guys to pay for your next mongering trip to Nigeria. WSG could use some fresh postings there and I’m sure you boys will enjoy your stay much better than the P.I.. OK with you?
Wastrel, your post #396 was a real knee slapper. You really have a lot of time on your hands. How many hours of google search did it take to come up with the USAF Personnel Manual? Are you still pretending to have served in the U.S. Military? If you had, your commanding officer would have shown you what to do with your pointing finger of accusation and sent your fat ass back to work in the latrine.
[quote=TIU/FP/ Dashing Don] You and your tubby friend from Las Vegas keep referring to post #388. Didn’t this start on #371 when you ratted on your bro Clandestine who sent you a PM asking about where to get bareback sex in the P.I.? I think you devastated the poor bastard when you outed him[/quote]
Hey I am still looking for this “wit” you profess to claim to have, I read your posts several times, forwards and backwards and could find no evidence of your so-called wit. If it’s any consolation to you I do find "you" funny or rather a joke, in the effort you are putting into this charade.
Anyway, l know you are not psychologically balanced right now, anyway just for clarification:
In post #371 it was simply two men in a discussion, there were no insults thrown between us [u]Nowhere[/u] did race come into this and why should it? It was You that brought race and the race card into the forum with post #388 and down to a new low.
Naturally, you are enjoying this thread being an asshole in life, I guess in your regular 9-5 no one takes notice of you, people walk past you on the street and don’t know or care who you are. I bet in school you never dated the popular girls and possible lost your virginity well into late in your teens, after large sums of money changed hands or on your wedding night. So of course you are excited by some attention in your life here hiding behind the anonymity of the forum to post your pathetic racist views.
But on your point the other day about my women and photos not being up to your “high” standard, with over 200 photos posted and on average 2,500 views each, this adds up to around half a million views of my photos. Now let me see how many photos have you posted? hmmmmm let me see, one, two zero? How many decent posts have you actually put up on this site? Hmmmmm, stuck again?? However, you are correct about one thing because since late last year, I have not been posting my best photos after someone contacted me and asked me why I was giving away all my good stuff for free when I could sell them. I have been approached three times with regards to this very subject and if they are so bad why do people want to buy them maestro?
So I am waiting to be blown away here and see what you’ve got here; so why not try 'actually' posting something?
For the last 3 days (and 14 posts) I've found nothing having to do with "General Info" about the Philippines. Sorry about the sad state of your forum Jackson.. hope it'll get back in order soon.
[QUOTE=Juniour] However, you are correct about one thing because since late last year, I have not been posting my best photos after someone contacted me and asked me why I was giving away all my good stuff for free when I could sell them. I have been approached three times with regards to this very subject and if they are so bad why do people want to buy them maestro?[/QUOTE]Ah, Ha Ha Ha Ha! Juniour, that was the funniest thing I have ever seen you say about yourself. I almost died laughing when I read this. This is the kind of humor we have been waiting for from you. I’m sure you have Hugh Hefner shaking in his slippers worried about his empire falling apart because you allegedly have some photos which people want to buy from you. I mean seriously, are you for real? Without question you are a legend in your own mind.
Actually, you are doing a great service for the ladies here in the P.I.. You have set the bar of expectations so low for any rookies who are coming into town; they will be blown away with the talent here compared to your conquests. So please keep your “good stuff” to yourself so Hugh Hefner will not be driven into bankruptcy.
Anyway, let’s bring this debate to an end. Even I am getting bored with this now. I’m also getting worried you are about to have another special thread with your name attached. Does that tell you anything?
[quote=FP/TIU/DD] Juniour - Legend In His Own Mind....[/quote]
FP/TIU/DD,
Actually I could have sworn it was Larry Flint and not Hugh Hefner, but who knows??
Anyway dude keep working at it, one day you could be like me, well apart from the small pecker and of course you can never be black, but apart from that just loose the big belly, double chin, diet and look and learn.
I can hardly contain myself here with excitement at reading your post and view your photos with hot Filippina babes, which you will no doubt be posting. Now I know how all those kids much have felt at the release of the latest Harry Potter book.
:D
[QUOTE=Juniour]FP/TIU/DD,
Actually I could have sworn it was Larry Flint and not Hugh Hefner, but who knows??
Anyway dude keep working at it, one day you could be like me, well apart from the small pecker and of course you can never be black, but apart from that just loose the big belly, double chin, diet and look and learn.
I can hardly contain myself here with excitement at reading your post and view your photos with hot Filippina babes, which you will no doubt be posting. Now I know how all those kids much have felt at the release of the latest Harry Potter book.
:D[/QUOTE]
I am so tired of flames - by both sides.
Fellow members,
I would appreciate any suggestions for the best place online to get low airfares to the Philippines. I plan to travel there in December. Would appreciate any suggestions.
I had good luck on airfares last December with [url]www.bt-store.com[/url].
[url]http://www.philembassy.se/consulr/info/prprpfr.htm[/url]
Is the following true: if you invest US$50,000 in the Philippines, you get a long term visa. This sounds like a very interesting business proposition and seems very different from the set up in Thailand etc. When I get back to civilization, I will check this up more but I have been made a business offer and I want to move it along. Thanks for any relevant leads.
Does anyone know if here have been any major problems with this?
[QUOTE=Domino][url]http://www.philembassy.se/consulr/info/prprpfr.htm[/url]
Is the following true: if you invest US$50,000 in the Philippines, you get a long term visa. This sounds like a very interesting business proposition and seems very different from the set up in Thailand etc. When I get back to civilization, I will check this up more but I have been made a business offer and I want to move it along. Thanks for any relevant leads.
Does anyone know if here have been any major problems with this?[/QUOTE]You can also leave the money in the bank,If you are at least forty five years old and apply for the special retiree visa.This program is under the Phillipine Leisure retirement Authority.Likewise being a resident of the Subic Free port also gives you a visa,but you have to invest or rent a house in subic.But this allows you to bring in your car and import all your needs duty free.This are other options,just feel free to ask if you have more questions
I was looking at condo prices and they seem quite cheap (like everything else in the Philppines). Has anyone bought a condo in PI, even though they don't live full time in the country? Apparently you avoid some of the problems regarding the law that doesn't allow foreigners to own LAND.
It seems a lot of guys are doing this just to have a place for their girlfriend, but that isn't what I had in mind.
If you could rent the place out when you aren't there, plus appreciation, I wonder if this would be a good investment, especially considering the money you WOULD NOT spend on hotels.
There are a lot of agents doing this kind of business. One that I found, with an interesting name is condomillion.com
X Man
I guess the tihng about buying a condo is location. As the Phils is such a fucked up place, don';t count on appreciation: though lots of big developments in Manila; Robinsons have one in Ermita.
Cebu Local: please check your pms.
[QUOTE=Domino]I guess the tihng about buying a condo is location. As the Phils is such a fucked up place, don';t count on appreciation: though lots of big developments in Manila; Robinsons have one in Ermita.
Cebu Local: please check your pms.[/QUOTE]Hi Domino You got mail,I am more then happy to help.Regards
Think very very carefully before buying. Do you really want to stay in the same location and country? Do you want to invest your money in the Philippine Peso long-term: consider that some say the financial position of Philippines is not far off that of Argentina before it defaulted-in which case you will not get your money out even if you could sell. Check carefully the 'actual' service charges. Are you sure the building was built properly, especially against earthquakes (most builders take hefty short-cuts on this)? With hotel costs so cheap maybe the best and most flexible solution is to stay in hotels. You can negotiate special rates with hotels if you want to stay longer term.
The late Cardinal Sin quipped that, though they got Ali Baba (Marcos), the 40 thieves escaped. The Phils has a lot more than 40 thieves, or 40 Ali Babas for that matter. Politics seems to consist of local clans running private fiefdoms as they see fit. And the Chinese.........
What about the Asian Development Bank? How come that is based in Manila. Is the ABD just another Goodfellas racket? I should think so.
Also, how easy is it for foreigners to legally arm themselves to the hilt in the Phils? Like enough to deter a mini army? Without an independent militia, any outside group would be prone to Abu Sayef dropping by.
It seems to me that the Phils is much more wretched than any big Latin American country. Is there any organization in that country which is not totally and utterly corrupt? Is there any building block there>
The Phils has all kinds of so called financial incentives to live there. But its GDP/cap continues to slide while Thailand's forges ahead. Also, the concept of rule of law seems to be unknown there. This means that foreigners would have to either live anonymously or behind massive security defenses such as those in Manila's Greenhills or thorw themselves to the mercy of the wolves, who being Pinoy, would be assuredly hungry.
Had a great time here for just over a month. I got to spend time with regular GFE type girls in Manila, Cagayan, Cebu and Davao. Of course in between there were numerous other less regular encounters. I also had the pleasure of meeting forum members DBoy, Spam Hog and Good Enough. There were a couple of others I might have met but they were sadly unavailable.
ATMs
My Cirrus card from the States worked just fine anywhere. The Plus card I had from HSBC in the UAE was another matter. I went all over Cagayan de Oro trying it in machines that said they accepted Plus but they all spit it back saying the PIN number was wrong. When I got to the HSBC branch in Cebu it worked just fine. It could have been a problem with having a 6-digit PIN number. Banks that say they accept Plus include Equitable PCI, China Bank and Metrobank. But if you have a choice between using a Cirrus card or a Plus card I would use Cirrus.
Connections into the country besides Manila.
The number of international flights into Cebu are scheduled to increase by quite a lot in the near future, mainly to other Asian destinations. Existing routes like Seoul and Hong Kong will add flights. New routes will open to mainland China. Silk Air to Singapore is every day and Qatar Airways also will increase to every day, going to Singapore on the way to Doha. I think there's also Malaysian to Kuala Lumpur. This way you can avoid Manila, one of the worst airports in Asia if not the world. I haven't heard about increased connections to Davao. Silk Air flies to Singapore every day. Each day the route alternates between going to Cebu first or Davao first. There are also some connections to Indonesia which I hear aren't very dependable. There's also a lot of news about flights to Clark from various points in Asia.
Costs
Hotels rates have gone up noticeably in the last year. For example Marriott in Cebu was 1000 more than this time last year. Understandably with the price of oil these days, domestic flight fares have gone up somewhat. Both hotels and flights are more and more likely to be full so it's harder than it used to be to just pick up and go somewhere on a whim. Taxi fares have only gone up a little, but you have to wonder how long before they go up even more.
Happily, costs for mongering seem to have held steady. Barfines and ST prices are the same as before.
Politics and Stability
Like Domino and others have said, the place is a hopeless mess and not looking to get better anytime soon. In a jackal and vulture like way this is good for the monger, creating more and more women in 'need.' But if things get much worse then the security situation could start to go bad. Only the monumental patience of the common people holds things together now and hopefully they won't reach their limit anytime soon. I won't want to be around when they do. There's not much point in looking to the politicians for hope. I never hear of a single one that has the common good in mind. It goes without saying that any investment here is very high risk.
So how are things for the monger now?
Well, fantastic really. I felt like it was easier than ever to meet stunning women for any purpose: one night stand, wham bam, GFE, longer term commitment. It's all there. This trip was as good or better than any of the 23 other times I was here. As long as the place stays stable then it should stay one of the best places in the world for the hobby.
Finally, a girl from Club Exotica in Cebu.
Some questions to the members:
- Any more freelnacer bar at Manila same LA cafe ?
- Where is recommend to stay ( area + hotels )if I wanna be close to LA cafe ?
- How safe is to walk by night at Manila vs. BKK ?
Hello fellow mongers,
I'm looking to get some of the girls I met on the chatline to meet me in Cebu, and I was wondering what's the best way to go about this.
I need to buy them plane tickets (from Gen San and from Manila), and I want to have a relatively safe way of doing this. Does anyone have a reliable travel agent in Gen San who can take my oder over the phone or by e-mail?
Cebu Local mentioned that local agents sell tickets a little cheaper than booking online; so I figured this would be the best way. By the way, Cebu Local, aren't you in this travel business? Do you do small potatoes like this or is this too small for your company (from your posts, it sounds like you're into bigger transactions). Send me an e-mail and let me know, will you please?
I really don't want to send the girls money directly to buy the ticket, because I don't want to be left holding the bag (or in this case, unused condoms) waiting for a no-show at the airport. Now, I know, even if I buy her the ticket, she can probably still sell the ticket and cash it in.
Does anyone know anyway around this dilemma?
Also, I'll need a flight from Cebu to Manila for myself, which I plan to get once I arrive in Cebu. Any suggestion for a travel agent in Cebu?
Appreciate your help.
Thanks.
Diver69
[QUOTE=Diver69]Hello fellow mongers,
I'm looking to get some of the girls I met on the chatline to meet me in Cebu, and I was wondering what's the best way to go about this.
I need to buy them plane tickets (from Gen San and from Manila), and I want to have a relatively safe way of doing this. Does anyone have a reliable travel agent in Gen San who can take my oder over the phone or by e-mail?
Cebu Local mentioned that local agents sell tickets a little cheaper than booking online; so I figured this would be the best way. By the way, Cebu Local, aren't you in this travel business? Do you do small potatoes like this or is this too small for your company (from your posts, it sounds like you're into bigger transactions). Send me an e-mail and let me know, will you please?
I really don't want to send the girls money directly to buy the ticket, because I don't want to be left holding the bag (or in this case, unused condoms) waiting for a no-show at the airport. Now, I know, even if I buy her the ticket, she can probably still sell the ticket and cash it in.
Does anyone know anyway around this dilemma?
Also, I'll need a flight from Cebu to Manila for myself, which I plan to get once I arrive in Cebu. Any suggestion for a travel agent in Cebu?
Appreciate your help.
Thanks.
Diver69[/QUOTE]Hi Diver
Even though I do large deals,I also do retail stuff also.The solution is to buy the girls e tickets or electronic tickets.That way they cannot sell the ticket or have it used by any other person,but themselves.That way all they need to show valid ID and the confirmation number to fly.Cebu Pacific and PAL have e tickets.But for Cebu,Try getting Cebu Pacific,For a Cebu Travel agent You can contact(not my agency but a friend)AAI travel and Tours Jacky Veloso Inbound Manager 63-32-3410990-92,341-4650 cell no 63-917 -328-7063 Jacky is a friend and real helpful,Her office is right near the airport in Mactan.
Let me know when you get in.There is no need for a General Santos Travel agent,If you use e tickets,You can just email her confirmation number.Best part,She cannot use a fake name since she has to use a valid ID to use her e ticket.Cheers
Hey Cebu Local,
Thanks for the info and recommendations. I will go the e-ticket route.
Do you know if AAI will do the reservation over the phone with me with payment by credit card?
Also, I check the Cebu Pacific website, and they don't fly between Gen San and Cebu, so I assume you meant Cebu to Manila, right?
How far in advance would you recommend booking the tickets?
Also, any opinion on the price I was quoted for Metropolis Court Hotel (2050 pesos incl b/f for 2)?
Much appreciated.
Diver69
I just bought a Cebu - Manila one way for about PHP2800. A few things to keep in mind:
You must buy at least 3 days in advance if you buy online. I bought over the phone, and then had to get to the airport a little early to actually get my ticket from the ticket office at the airport.
The price used to be more like PHP3200. Maybe it's a seasonal change. Check out Mubahay Class, which is similiar to Business Class. I paid about PHP4200 for Mubahay Class. Less than $20 compared to the PHP3200 fare. It allows more checked baggage, access to the Lounge with food and internet, plus a meal onboard, and a much better seat.
Also, the traveller may be asked to show the credit card that was used for the purchase. This could be a problem for the girl. I'll defer to Cebu Local on this, just wanted to bring it up for discussion.
[QUOTE=Diver69]Hey Cebu Local,
Thanks for the info and recommendations. I will go the e-ticket route.
Do you know if AAI will do the reservation over the phone with me with payment by credit card?
PM ME IF YOU HAVE ANY PROBLEMS AND I WILL GIVE JACKY A CALL
Also, I check the Cebu Pacific website, and they don't fly between Gen San and Cebu, so I assume you meant Cebu to Manila, right?CORRECT THE PAL FLIGHT IS ALWAYS LATE,YESTERDAY MY FLIGHT BACK To CEBU WAS DELAYED FOR ABOUT AN HOUR
How far in advance would you recommend booking the tickets?AT LEAST 3-4 DAYS
Also, any opinion on the price I was quoted for Metropolis Court Hotel (2050 pesos incl b/f for 2)?IT IS HIGH FOR THAT QUALITY OF HOTEL
Much appreciated.
Diver69[/QUOTE]GLAD TO BE OF HELP
[QUOTE=Dboy]I just bought a Cebu - Manila one way for about PHP2800. A few things to keep in mind:
You must buy at least 3 days in advance if you buy online. I bought over the phone, and then had to get to the airport a little early to actually get my ticket from the ticket office at the airport.
The price used to be more like PHP3200. Maybe it's a seasonal change. Check out Mubahay Class, which is similiar to Business Class. I paid about PHP4200 for Mubahay Class. Less than $20 compared to the PHP3200 fare. It allows more checked baggage, access to the Lounge with food and internet, plus a meal onboard, and a much better seat.
Also, the traveller may be asked to show the credit card that was used for the purchase. This could be a problem for the girl. I'll defer to Cebu Local on this, just wanted to bring it up for discussion.[/QUOTE]This wont be a problem as long as she has valid ID and she just has to explain her "boyfriend" payed for it
Good info on interisland travel. Let me add my two cents.
As for the really small airlines, I preferred SEAir over Asian Spirit. Other folk have seconded my opinion here and elsewhere. SEAir doesnt fly to Mindanao as far as Iknow. They have a excellent magazine as well, which you can access online if you register.
Cebu Pacific offices can often me found in the malls. At Ermita Robinsons it's just to the left of Starbucks (outside the mall).
In late July, I purchased these tickets. They were e-tickets.
MLA-Davao 2790 pesos
Davao-Cebu 2864 pesos
Cebu Manila 2034
Also, Cebu Pacific has some special with hotels so that you can get a discount.
BUT, I could do without their silly in flight games.
X Man
[QUOTE=X Man]Good info on interisland travel. Let me add my two cents.
As for the really small airlines, I preferred SEAir over Asian Spirit. Other folk have seconded my opinion here and elsewhere. SEAir doesnt fly to Mindanao as far as Iknow. They have a excellent magazine as well, which you can access online if you register.
Cebu Pacific offices can often me found in the malls. At Ermita Robinsons it's just to the left of Starbucks (outside the mall).
In late July, I purchased these tickets. They were e-tickets.
MLA-Davao 2790 pesos
Davao-Cebu 2864 pesos
Cebu Manila 2034
Also, Cebu Pacific has some special with hotels so that you can get a discount.
BUT, I could do without their silly in flight games.
X Man[/QUOTE]Sea Air has a better safety record in fact a perfect safety record.Being German owned and run might be a reason,Iren Dornier the Chairman is the grandson of the Legendary aircraft pioneer Claude Dornier.Games???Dont you just love Bring Me at 35,000 feet especially when they ask for shoes,Socks etc
The most recent price I paid for a Davao-Manila round trip on Cebu Pacific was PhP 5450, and I am pretty sure that PAL (plane always late) offers tickets for the same price.
XMan - I agree that the stupid games are a total pain in the ass, but the Filipino flying public seems to love them. I like Cebu Pacific because it at least tries hard to be interesting and to deliver service, even if it does not always succeed. The attitude of the Cebu Pacific staff is preferable to the humorless demeanor of the PAL ground staff and flight attendants, who never even bother to apologize for the chronic taridness of their flights.
Cebu Pacific, by the way, recently put on some new Airbus planes, which are clean and more comfortable than the old timers they fly.
:D
GE
GE
You forgot about the Karaoke singing contests which is a pain in the ears imagine 3-5 awful singers just as you are trying to get some sleep.They have introduced these in the Airbuses.PAL is also known as PAL-PAC which means failure in Tagalog.Plane always late Plane always cancelled.
CL
[QUOTE=Cebu Local]
You forgot about the Karaoke singing contests which is a pain in the ears imagine 3-5 awful singers just as you are trying to get some sleep.[/QUOTE]
Please, the flight from Manila - Cebu is only 55minutes and last September I actually won one their competitions on-board, however, I didn’t take the prize, a Cebu-Pacific t-shirt and wash bag, I have hundreds of the things and suggested they give it to the second place person. :)
A couple of tips however, its worth checking if PAL is running any special offers, silly me at the time could have got a cheaper price on PAL. The other thing to note is baggage allowance on Cebu Pacific they charge you for more than 20 kilos, on PAL if you typically travel with 30 kilos, like myself, they never charge me, when I say I am off an international flight.
In case it wasn't already clear, I do prefer CP over PAL. The first time I flew PAL was in the days when you had to confirm flights....but no one ever answered the phone. Nice way to spend half a day of your holday....trying to call an airline to confirm a ticket you already paid for.
Second time, more recently, the interior looked pretty ragged which made me nervous about the rest of the plane. Of course I once did a ten hour flight on United where my reading light wouldn't work. At first it was still daylight so I opened the shade, but was scolded by the cabin attendatn (were these women ever beautiful???) who asked me to consider the other passengers who were trying to watch the movie.
What the F? Sit quietly in the dark for the next five hours.
Dornier. Great stories with this guy and this airline. Anyway, the owner of SEAIR is the grandson of a German guy who built airplanes / seaplanes during the war years. Company still exists and I suspect the grandson has not intention of tarnishing the image of the family name / business / airplane.
And did I mention before that the female staff wear miniskirts.
Just want to keep the post on topic so that Mr. Slim doesn't start complaining.
X Man
[QUOTE=Cebu Local]GLAD TO BE OF HELP[/QUOTE]
Thanks.
I'll be calling Jacky in the next day or so.
I'll also try calling Metropolis Court directly to see if they can give me a better quote.
After checking SE Air
s website, I'm tempted to adjust my itinerary to fly directly from Cebu to Angeles (well, not really direct, with a stopover) instead of flying into MNL and then taking a taxi/bus. The only problem is they only fly twice a week...
I'll see if I can adjust.
Thanks all for the help. Will keep everyone posted and will try to meet for a beer or two.
Diver69
I tried calling a couple girls in PI. I think they have SMART phone service on their mobile. when I call from my US phone, I dial +63 to call PI, and then the cellular number, but it doesnt go through. Am I supposed to leave out the first digit which is a zero for a cellular phone or something like that? Can somebody help me out with this?
Thanks Guys.
O.D.
[QUOTE=Orgasm Donor]I tried calling a couple girls in PI. I think they have SMART phone service on their mobile. when I call from my US phone, I dial +63 to call PI, and then the cellular number, but it doesnt go through. Am I supposed to leave out the first digit which is a zero for a cellular phone or something like that? Can somebody help me out with this?
Thanks Guys.
O.D.[/QUOTE]
Yes, leave the ZERO out (first digit) - +63920 then phone number.
IB
Thanks for that quick response Ilongo Boy! Cheers!
O.D.
Guys,
I need some advice. I am currently living in the Philippines but I am new to using the web to meet girls. What Online Dating/Romance sites are you using and/or what Chat Rooms are you using to meet girls. Any advice is appreciated.
[QUOTE=Coochielover]Guys,
I need some advice. I am currently living in the Philippines but I am new to using the web to meet girls. What Online Dating/Romance sites are you using and/or what Chat Rooms are you using to meet girls. Any advice is appreciated.[/QUOTE]Adult friend finder,Manila tonight,Friendster
I'll Be in Angeles on the 9th of September. Could one of you senior members in the local area tell me what the current exchange rate is? Thanks in advance for any info you may provide.
Yella Man
[url]http://www.xe.com/ucc/[/url]
Anyone know off-hand what it cost to take a flight outta Clark to Cebu? Gonna be in Angeles for about ten days and was thinking about trying some place new in the RP.
Yella Man
[QUOTE=Yella Man]Anyone know off-hand what it cost to take a flight outta Clark to Cebu? Gonna be in Angeles for about ten days and was thinking about trying some place new in the RP.
Yella Man[/QUOTE]
Try SEAIR at the following website
[url]http://www.flyseair.com/flightsched/ratesheet.pdf[/url]
Cebu Pacific tell me they now, suddenlty, have a 30%+ surcharge. Can anyone else confirm this?
I dont know about Cebu Pacific! But here in Australia every air line is putting fuel surcharge on! I just bought ticket to Manila and because it is 2 sectors the fuel surcharge was 120 dollars! But hey with the price of fuel, you have to expect that they want to make the same money! Any way its still cheap!
[QUOTE=Domino]Cebu Pacific tell me they now, suddenlty, have a 30%+ surcharge. Can anyone else confirm this?[/QUOTE]I am an Authorized Cebu Pacific Agent,The answer unfortunately is YES
Hey all,
Could you please help. I was in Thailand last Christmass / new years and January. This year I am planning to go on the same trip, but am thinking about hitting Philpines instead of Thailand. Could the experts help in comparing the two places, in terms of women, fun, quality and cost. I would realy appreciate it as I have to make a decision soon.
Thank you!
I will be going to the PI in November and have a one night layover in Manila.
Do any Senior Members have any advice and where is the best place to go to find good looking girls?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Brad98]I will be going to the PI in November and have a one night layover in Manila.
Do any Senior Members have any advice and where is the best place to go to find good looking girls?
Thanks[/QUOTE]RTFF -polite form and then i will be more then happy to answer your SPECIFIC questions,on Burgos,Edsa Complex etc.Have a great trip to the PI
Skyway,
Your question is perhaps the most frequently asked in the Philippines forum. You will find much more in the site achives.
Very briefly, costs of girls in Bangkok vs Manila are approximately the same. Philippines. is cheaper if you go to Angeles City - but then you have to get there. Thailand has a far better tourism infrastructure, more things to see and do other than mongering and is much safer for first time visitors. Philippines spoken English is better than in Thailand, but then more action and less talk is not such a bad thing.
Brad 98,
You'll probably find good looking girls on the airplane. If you are fllying any of the American airlines, you'll be especially delighted with the flight attendants. Although I've never indulged, they strike me as the type who would be happy to tie you up and spank you.
Good looking girls....you should try the Ukraine pen pal lists. The Filipina tend to be titless, 90lb and have flat noses. No one wears glasses in the Philippines 'cause of their noses....the glasses slide right off. Course they can't afford contacts, so if you're ugly this is a plus. The country girls tend to have scars on their legs....from the leaches. Hard work in the rice fields. Last I heard, the few remaining Filipina beauties were working in Japan, or already married to some pensioner in the 1st world.
One night layover, huh? Well, if you can't change your plans, just ask the taxi driver to take you to Smokey Mountain. I heard it's kind of romantic at the mountain. You never know what could happen.
If smokey moutain doesn't work out, try Burgos Ave.
So, where you headed "Brad" who graduated from high school in "98"?
X Man
Fastpiston gives and excellent summary.
Thailand is certainly a wonderful place to go. I love the food and I love how 20ish women can be naturally ....bald. Love the bald girls. If you've been to Thailand you know what I mean. The beaches are better, more history...
I think the original question was rather narrow....something about mongering. If that is all you worry about, I can't see how you could have a bad time in either place.
Somehow I end up in the Philippines these days. The English edge means you might be invited to parties, have "normal dates", can give directions to a taxi driver, can meet people at the drop of a hat, etc, etc.
I truly envy the guys who've learned one of the more difficult languages inthe world....Thai.
ONE POINT......
Althought Thailand far surpasses the Philippines with regard to "infrastructure", you still have to be VERY careful with water and washed veggis in Thailand.
Does anyone know why this is? I've had no problems with tap water in the Philippines, although I don't recommend it. I've been deathly sick in Thailand on two occasions ...after eating salads....(although the real problem may be something entirely different...who knows).
Let me sum this up by quoting FP
X Man
Thailand has a far better tourism infrastructure, more things to see and do other than mongering and is much safer for first time visitors.
Hello all,
I am sorry that my quistion must have upset the members of this board. It was not my intention. I have been reading this board for about a year and have always found it to be friendly to new members posting. I did not graduate in 98 but the system would not let me use my regular screen name.
I find most of the ladies I have seeen pictures of on this board to be nice looking, but there seems to be some large differance of opinion on were to meet them. I have never been to the PI and I am going to gensan for my friends wedding, so I will have a one night stay in manila and wanted to go out and see some of the places I have read about on this board. I would like some advice from anyone who could help. I just dont want to end up having a poor time because I go to the wrong place and waist my one night in Manila.
Thank you for your help
Brad98
[QUOTE=Brad98]Hello all,
I am sorry that my quistion must have upset the members of this board. It was not my intention. I have been reading this board for about a year and have always found it to be friendly to new members posting. I did not graduate in 98 but the system would not let me use my regular screen name.
I find most of the ladies I have seeen pictures of on this board to be nice looking, but there seems to be some large differance of opinion on were to meet them. I have never been to the PI and I am going to gensan for my friends wedding, so I will have a one night stay in manila and wanted to go out and see some of the places I have read about on this board. I would like some advice from anyone who could help. I just dont want to end up having a poor time because I go to the wrong place and waist my one night in Manila.
Thank you for your help
Brad98[/QUOTE]Ok for one night,you could either hit the EDSA complex infront of the Heritage hotel or go try the Bars on Burgos street.Do not go to the garbage dump,Smokey Mountain,Good one though X Man.Be sure to the see the sexy ASIAN babes,which Northwest uses during the Asian legs of your trip.Say hello and be nice to the American LOLAS,on the US legs.btw LOLA is Filipino for grandmother.You can also score in GenSan.Good luck
[quote=Brad98] I am sorry that my quistion must have upset the members of this board. It was not my intention. I have been reading this board for about a year and have always found it to be friendly to new members posting. (Posted 9/12/2005)
Do any Senior Members have any advice and where is the best place to go to find good looking girls? (posted 9/11/2005) [/quote]
[b]Brad98[/b]
I don’t know why you would believe that anyone here would or should be upset by your questions? Obviously this type of question is simply too wide for anyone to give you a simple straight forward answer. However, I must ask why is it you feel that only Senior members could answer your question – :) I have seen this written many times on various threads and I often wonder what skills does a senior member possess that a regular member does not, to enable them to answer these types of questions?
Anyway as you to question my opinion is that generally every one of the members here has a different take on what constitute a good looking woman, some people here base their judgement on price/ body/age/ skin fairness etc. But one thing is for sure is that if we were here for 1000 years we would never agree on what is a good looking women.
Nevertheless, as is the case in any other country good looking women = higher price, its simply a case of supply and demand. There are no beauty queens going for 500 Pesos in Manila, more like 5000 Pesos – if there are I am yet to find one. So I don’t know what your circumstance are but I would suggest that as you are obviously [I]“time poor”[/I] but I am not sure if you [I]“cash rich”[/I] but as you desperate to sample at least one night in Manila, price is not too much of a factor here. Japanese businessmen are "cash rich" (Yen/Peso) but "time poor" hence they pay more for the types of girls they like in thier clubs.
Following on from the earlier advice I would also suggest you at least read Steve Naďve’s useful post to Manila, below, it may be one year old but it still gives an accurate reflection of the scene in Manila today. It provides all the information you require if you are too lazy to [b]RTFF.[/b]
[url]www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=307743&postcount=581[/url]
Enjoy
Cebu Local,
Been trying to reach AAI Travel's Jacky as you recommended, but she's not returning my e-mail. She doesn't answer her cell phone, and the business numbers you gave received no answer.
Any one with any other suggestion? I think I want to get the tickets purchased soon. So I can pay off the credit card bill before I leave on the trip.
What about your own company? Would you take my business?
I've sent you an e-mail too.
Thanks for your help.
Thai food is quantum leaps better, as is the infrastructure, the organization, the quality of city life and the exoticism. The girls are (in my opinion) pretty much of a toss up. On the other hand, the whole sex scene in the PI is less commercial (notwithstanding Burgos St. and its imitators) and it's much easier to meet non-professional women (okay maybe semi-pros) in the PI than in Thailand. I think that for foreign tourists, safety concerns in the Philippines are overblown and overstated, I've lived and worked in both countries, and I cannot see any real difference in the security of foreigners.
The bottom line is that if you're searching for a place where places of cultural interest are accessible, in addition to frequent sex with beautiful young women, then Thailand may be a better bet for you. If, on the other hand, you want a more laid back, less commercial scene (especially outside of Manila) and your primary motivation is sex, then the PI is a better bet perhaps.
Finally, it's unlikely that, without prior introduction, you're going to get invited into the home of a "real" Thai family, whereas in the Philippines, it's a relatively common occurance.
:D
GE
WHat is blindingly obvious to anyone whe has been to both countries is that in the Phillippines people do speak English and in Thailand they generally do not. Thailand is a far better place to take a vacation and if you are the type who prefers to point (at the ***** you want to screw) and be back in the room 15 minutes later....and get rid of her when you're spent, Thailand would be better.
If you want to make friends, or learn the name of the lady before you slip it in, or even hope to get invited into people's homes, or invited to parties, or chat with sweeties online before your arrival....the Philippines is far superior.
I will disagree with GE on one point, subjective as it may be....I think the Thai women are the most gorgeous in the world. Slender, high cheek bones, big mouths with big smiles, generous breasts (usually) and ....if you're really lucky, a naturally peach fuzzed crotch (of age of course!!!).
X
I ma planning my first trip over to look for a great gal and also have a good time. What could you guys give me for a heads up on where to go ect. I would like to know about cell service, money exchanges, and what type of cash if any to bring to exchange. I have read these boards for some time and would like to know if a November trip would be ok. I think a 12-14 day stint will be about my limit the first round.
Thanks and PLAY SAFE.
I would suggest that you look at the archived messages on this web site that will give you all, and more, of all the information you will need. You will also see multiple opinions and views.
Weather wise ! November is one of the wettest months in Cebu ! Not sure about Manila but I think much the same all over the philippines.
Use your atm card is best way. Traverlers cheques are a hassel to cash, try to get some pesos before you leave at aiports but only $50.00 worth , if you can get 100 peso notes.
On the board it seems so easy ! but we get carried away with success more often than failures!
It takes time and practise to stop paying to much! Hysr be comfindent on who you are but many seasoned mongers use the first time act to pay little.
First you need to deceide on a hotel. Whether it is Manila, Makati, etc, then do some searching and read all reviews. then after you deceide that them read the boards for that area. it takes about 5 hours ok. Don't forget to take notes!
Good luck.
Does anyone have a report on the ferrys doing this trip!
The Qestions are:
How long?
Which is the better service ( Saftey not sinking)?
The price for GOOD cabin?
I know when i took the ferry from cebu to Bohol, I did it in business class upstairs and was only one there, except for the hostest and received free drinks and food.
Any with disco on board for pick ups?
As I recall in 2004 Ithink one ferry caught fire Or had bomb on board, but hey also planes these days are falling from the sky, I think in the last 3 months 4 have gone done all over the world, I know i can swim but my flying is now only in the bed!
Would appreciated any help. Promise to write report of the adventure of the ferry!
Common sense tells me that, filipinos dont have money, so a lot of students might be going home by ferry and could be very good mongering on board!
Thanks
Porty,
Sorry I can't answer you in detail, since I'm not of that persuasian. But the fairys probably have varying lenghts. (Umm, you asked "how long")
As for the safety....surely you can't expect us to know which ferry will sink or not. I'd say your odds are best if you don't board a ferry at Basilan. I've often thought of taking a girl on an overnight ferry ride... to Boracay or whereever...
But you have a good idea. Try to get a "steerage" girl into your cabin....kind of reverse Titanic style. Just hope the ship doesn't sink....
x
PORTY;
Thanks for the help on the money and other info. I would like to know if all atm transactions will go through using us banks? And would I be better off buying a cell phone over there and using on other trips?
Thanks for all the imput and I will now start studying all the boards.
Play Safe
Porty!
SuperFerry is the most reliable service from Manila to Cebu, even though they experienced the bomb about a year ago. I know that they have increased the security a lot since then. Seamanswise, their crew have the best competence and experience, for what ever it is worth, compared to the few competitiors left in this service. I know this for a fact!
Regarding the schedule, that differs, depending on the ferries, no 1, 11, etc. You can find info abotu the cost on their homepage: [url]http://www.superferry.com.ph/ratespromos/rates.asp[/url] , which start on about Php 1750 one way for supervalue (big room with many beds in two hights, if I recall correct. If wrong, then it is seats like on board airplanes). I stayed in a suite on the upper deck, but dont know the fare ;) . A Japanese room for two persons cost about Php 4000 one way.
The sailing is about 22 hours.
X-man!
Care to explain the expression, since it is not a maritime one? :D
[QUOTE=X Man]Porty,
.... Try to get a "steerage" girl into your cabin....kind of reverse Titanic style.
[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Marconista]X-man!
Care to explain the expression, since it is not a maritime one? :D[/QUOTE]
Hi Marconista
For somebody from the Maritime Industry like yourself,I am surprised you are not familiar with the term"steerage".It is an old term for the cheapest tickets on the boat.What WG&A calls Super value or Economy Class.It is no longer in use of course.Regards and Hope things are well.
Can anyone help with travel agent? Anyone??? Cebu Local???
[QUOTE=Diver69]Cebu Local,
Been trying to reach AAI Travel's Jacky as you recommended, but she's not returning my e-mail. She doesn't answer her cell phone, and the business numbers you gave received no answer.
Any one with any other suggestion? I think I want to get the tickets purchased soon. So I can pay off the credit card bill before I leave on the trip.
What about your own company? Would you take my business?
I've sent you an e-mail too.
Thanks for your help.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the help on the money and other info. I would like to know if all atm transactions will go through using us banks? And would I be better off buying a cell phone over there and using on other trips?
With the atm machines philipinnes bank ( Red Colour) work as well as metro, Some dont work but in all shooping centers they have so many you will find one that works. Just a point try to do it before 4 pm as everyoine shops late and cues appear ok.
Ask your cell phone agent if you have tri band, most cells these days are tri band. As from the usa is different to asia and australia . Forget about using your cell if you go to japan , completley different system.
But buy a sim card for around 10 us that will give you 200 peso load as well.
remember one tip, as most filipino's text only. their system is if they have no load they will call their friends and the friends will text them This is how they get their friends to text, they dont answer the cell just see who has called. Most times its a sginel for their friend to send load. So dont expect them to answer you if you call them, you will have better luck texting okay
Marconista!
Thank you for the information on the ferry! 22 hours cool, if you think about it, by paying 4000 for suite ( he he he nice name) well it saves the price of a hotel room for the night! I think it would be like having sex on a water bed too, have not done that since the 80"s
I will check out the site you meantioned,
What is an internet cafe? Do the girls that go there work in the bars or is this a place for everyone to use a pc?? I do not want to sound dumb but the place is a little different than newengland.
Play Safe.
It's cheap enough to buy a cellphone, about $40 US or so, then just add 300 Peso or 500 Peso loads as you need them. You can then leave the phone as a gift with someone or reuse on the next trip (but you will probably have to buy a new SIM card if you are going to be gone for more than 90 days, a cost of about P500).
Internet cafes are where most people go in RP to browse the net, Chat, play PC Games (so stay away right after school lets out) and even do homework. Most people in RP do not have PC's and Internet at home. It can be a good place to meet someone also.
Diver,
Try Beeline travel in AC. They have been around a while and are reliable.
Porty:
My advice is to buy a cell phomne before you even hit your first bar or hit on your first woman. It's essential to have one here, and you can buy a used one for as little as $30. You need to establish a means for all of the young lovelies to contact you and contact you they will.
If you want to go up market, and buy a tri band or a quad band, there are dozens of varieties available. These will work virtually anywhere in the world, except Japan which still uses CDMA. They'll even work in the US which (finally) has GSM providers. If you have no use for such a phone in your home country, or on your travels. then it's probably silly to go to the extra expense. Just buy a basic, simple phone that will send and receive text messages and calls. You can pick them up in any mall, any pawn shop and any phone store on the street as the ladies here are forever trading up and pawning their phones.
GE
Another reason is don't make the same mistake I did, and use the phone in your hotel room. Those pesos add up quick. Get a cell.
A cell phone is worth its weight in gold. Last year I bought a cheap new cell phone for $60. You will find almost all the ladies have cell phones. In fact, last time I was in the P.I., I read in the Manila Times that the average citizen spends more on their cells than they do on food.
Once you have your cell you can roam from bar to bar and give your number to whichever lady you would like to meet up with either after they get off work or the next day when you are in need of a nooner. This alone will save you the 3000 pesos for the bar fine since they are basically sneaking out to be with you. The only problem you will have is trying to remember which ladies you gave your number to since every one of them will be ringing or texting you at all hours of the morning and daytime. Since I travel to the P.I. every 3 months, I keep the numbers of the ones I like the best and text them when I get into town and let the good times roll.
[QUOTE=Porty]
...
With the atm machines philipinnes bank ( Red Colour) work as well as metro, Some dont work but in all shooping centers they have so many you will find one that works. Just a point try to do it before 4 pm as everyoine shops late and cues appear ok.
...
[/QUOTE]
Any ATM machine with the Visa, Mastercard or Cirrus logo sticker will take a US ATM card. Banks such as PCI Equitable, HSBC, BPI Family Bank, Metro Bank and Citibank carry the three logos.
Okay guys i know the airlines are putting a fuel surcharge on !
Now the Superferry's start their surcharge on the 16 th september !
Whats next ??? maybe the taxi's will be next !
Why dont they just increase the ticket prices in the philippines and be done with it. Because the price of fuel will never go back to where it was!
OR
Next we here will be the girls putting a sucharge on us for the lubricate they use, or the oil in the massage parlours will attrcated a surcharge! I will check this post in a year and see if it happens ! ha ha ha ha.
Just a thought!!
I agree with Tee it Up on the cell phone issue. It's a must have while your in the Philippines. Buy a used one for around 2000 Pesos ($36) and then give your number to a girl in every bar you visit. By the end of your trip the phone will have paid for itself in freebies. I passed up on a lot of freebies in Angeles simply because I didn't have the time to fit them in or I had a bar-fine on my hands already. If you really want to do it right, get a tri-band cell phone like the one I have. It will work in most asian countries (Except Korea which uses CDMA not SIMM cards) and North America too. I use mine in the USA all the time. Just change SIMM cards and buy time in whatever country your in. A friend of mine paid 3300 Pesos ($60) for a new tri-band phone in Angeles a few weeks ago. A worthy investment.
Yella Man
I had to re-post Sun Devils very accurate and interesting post because I ran into most of these types of women while in Angeles, including the Three Holer. Fellow mongers read up and study, because if you understand the different types of girls you will encounter in the Philippines you can avoid some pitfalls I see a lot of guys get hammered with over there. You gotta be one step ahead of the bar girl, not two steps behind or she will eat you alive!
Yella Man
[QUOTE=Sun Devil]Here is some information about bar girls that some dude emailed me:
Lets talk about the type of Bargirls you will encounter on your trip
to PI. This small guide covers and describe the entire bargirl
population in PI. Bargirls are individual human beings and should be treated as such.
A bargirl is a dancer, waitress or doorgirl that works in a bar in PI and can be EWR’d (Early Work Released aka barfined).
Probably the easiest way to understand the PI bargirl is by looking at the various stereotypes. Rarely will a bargirl fit neatly into one stereotype. Most girls have a complex set of motivations while working the bar scene in PI. Understanding those motivations allows you to have more fun during your travel in PI. Of course, since bargirls are women you and I will never truly understand them. But it can be fun trying.
Here are the different types of Bargirls found in PI.
SHY GIRL
Most Filipinas are actually very shy around foreigners. A girl fresh
from the province is almost certain to be shy. This shyness might only last a few weeks or months but it will be unmistakable.
Body shyness is a big part of this. Proper attire for a Filipina swimming in the provinces is not a bikini. It is mostly long pants or shorts and a heavy shirt over an undershirt and a bra. Take a body shy girl from the province and put her on stage in a bikini and watch the fun. She will try to stand behind the other girls on stage and hide various body parts with her hands if she catches you looking too closely.
Body shy girls are often verbally shy as well. You can buy them a LD and they can easily remain silent or give one word answers to your questions for the entire time you are in the bar. I have found real gems among the shy girls as they are often quite new to the bar scene. It may take a few days to get the shy girl to relax with you but the result may be worth it.
STUNNER
Maybe it is her skin tone, her beautiful face but mostly it is her
entire shape and body that makes a stunner. Sure beauty is in the eye of the beholder but some girls are just simply maganda to many foreigners - speacially after a few drinks, lol.
Unfortunately the stunner will realize this about five minutes after she starts working inside a bar and sees all the attention directed at her. At this point her attitude starts to change. She starts thinking about what the customer can do for her instead of what she can do for the customer to make him happy.
My experience with stunner girls is that usually her bad attitude overpowers her beauty. Stunner girls often quickly develop into high maintainence girls. More so when you date them for a fews days or for a while.
HIGH MAINTAINENCE GIRL
These girls are easily spotted from across the bar by the glare from their gold jewelry. A cherry girl or a girl fresh from the province will have very little jewelry. Jewelry is often given when the girl makes the guy very happy. If he didn’t buy the gold jewelry then he gave her enough pesos for her to buy it herself.
On the plus side it means that she is capable of making someone very happy. Unfortunately her boyfriend or honeyko may have her so emotionally wrapped up that she will not make you very happy.
In my experience a high maintainence girl is a risky EWR. If you are only looking to butterfly - a series of one night stands, then it is doubtful that she will forget her boyfriend(s) long enough to show you a good time in one night.
PROFESSIONAL GIRL
This girl knows what you want and is prepared to deliver it to you
with minimal hassles. She doesn’t waste time telling you much about herself and her problems. The professional girl will be asking you if you want short time or long time and what positions would be required.
If she is very professional she may even want to discuss the size of her tip before she has even left the bar. Some prefer this directness but it lacks a little of the GFE (Girl Friend Experience) that I enjoy so much in PI. On the plus side, the professional girl may be the only honest bargirl that you will meet in your stay in PI.
BOLLA BOLLA GIRL
Some will argue that every bargirl in PI is a bolla bolla (liar) girl.
They may be right. Some girls will even lie to you for no reason. In
their defense they have to listen to all the foreigners lie to them
constantly also. It is only natural for them to want to return the
favor. They simply don’t think that it is inappropriate for them to
lie to you. It takes a long time for most bargirls to trust you enough to be honest with you.
Sadly, for some bargirls it is simply not possible for them to be honest. If any single stereotype can be found in combination with others then this is one that fits all of the stereotypes.
SUPPORT GIRL
This girl’s objective is to get you interested enough in her to send
her monthly support payments. The fact that she has three other guys already sending her support will not deter her in the slightest.
Honesty is a joke. She will literally do or say anything to get what
she wants. She may test you early on by asking if she can stop at JJ’s supermarket before going to your hotel. Of course you are expected to pay. If she says she needs hair conditioner but you walk out of JJ’s with three or more items than she may be testing you.
If your pockets are deep and your hotel room expensive then she will take note. You can expect the magic word ‘support’ to be mentioned in the morning. You might think it strange that a bargirl would even mention the word support after only one night but believe me it happens. On the plus side, it might be a great night as she could be very motivated.
SECOND TIER
These are the girls that make up the bulk of the lineup in any bar.
They aren't stunners but are still decent looking girls with fair to
good figures. Maybe a skin condition, a small rice belly or some bad teeth keeps them from being a stunner. One thing that you will notice in the PI is that girls from the poorer provinces have rarely if ever visited a dentist and an orthodontist would be impossibly expensive.
The advantage of a second tier girl is that they don’t have the
attitude of the stunners. They are very happy that you chose them for EWR and their performance in the bedroom is usually great.
You probably have the best chance of a GFE with one of these girls. They have no intention of leaving after one session. Your aircon hotel room with cable TV and minibar is heaven to them, compared to their tiny apartments with three bargirl roommates. Often times they will develop into Cinderella girls, particularly if you EWR them more then one night.
CINDERELLA
She is looking for Prince Charming to rescue her from her life of
poverty and prostitution. Her favorite movie is ‘Pretty Woman’. If she thinks you are her prince then you are in for a wild ride. She will do and say almost anything in order to be with you. Honesty about her past is forgotten in her desire to present herself to you in the best possible light.
She desperately wants to hear the magic words ‘mahal
kita’ (I love you) from you. If you are foolish enough to say the
magic words then she will instantly start planning your lives together as newlyweds. Children’s names will be suggested by her. On the plus side you can expect some great times in bed as she tries her very best to please you.
However, when you ask her to go home in the morning the
tears will be histrionic. Spending a week or more with one girl can
often turn her into Cinderella but it can also happen in one night, if you are very nice to her.
CHERRY GIRL
In my experience there are three kinds of cherry girls in AC. The
obvious one is the true cherry girl (virgin) that is looking for a
husband. Filipino culture values virginity quite highly. A Filipino
man with an education and a good job would never marry anything but a virgin. A cherry girl believes that must be true for foreigners as well. If she is husband shopping then she has to hold on to her credit card.
The second type of cherry girl is actually selling a product and you
can expect intense negotiations with mamasan over the price. Of
course, as with any verbal sales agreement, packaging and freshness are not guaranteed.
The third kind of cherry girl is the one that really doesn’t want you
to EWR her. A bargirl telling you that she is cherry when you suggest going back to your hotel may be just politely saying no to you. Maybe you need to shower and brush your teeth more often. If you have already bought the girl six ladies drinks then you might be disappointed.
Shame on you, for not asking her earlier, if she was a cherry girl. If the girl doesn’t want to go back to your hotel with you then it is pointless to persist. Neither of you will have a good time. With such a high bargirl population in PI you are sure to find many others that will like you or at least like your wallet.
MARTYR GIRL
A lot of girls fresh from the province will fall into this stereotype.
The girl will say that she has been forced by her family to work in
the big cities and send money home to them every month. She will tell you that she is actually a good girl and she may even believe it herself for a long time. Other jobs would not allow her to send enough support to her family.
Unfortunately the attention and money from foreigners’ changes them over time. The fact that she has an expensive cell phone, nice clothes, manicures and pedicures twice a week is ignored. In her mind she is still forced to work in the bar in order to support her family.
She wants your sympathy. She wants you to feel guilty. She also wants a big tip. The martyr girl can’t really enjoy herself or be your girlfriend in your hotel room or she wouldn’t be a martyr.
WESTERNIZED GIRL
These girls are easy to spot as they will often have dyed hair,
stylish haircuts, heavy makeup and white faces. They embrace the
western culture and reject their own heritage. If you watch Filipino television and movies you will notice that the ‘good’ characters have western noses and skin colors. The Westernized girl will often accessorize herself with western clothes, cigarettes and body jewelry.
I am not sure why they think that a guy would travel across the globe to be with a western looking Filipina.
FALLING STAR
Filipinas normally look much younger than their years. Even so, a
bargirl that works for too many years in PI will start to look older.
If she has had one or more children then it will likely have taken a
toll on her figure. A falling star will often work as a waitress and
may wear a fair bit of makeup. A waitress uniform hides the years
better than a bikini. When the other girls in the bar are 18 or 19
years old, then a 25 year old falling star has some serious
competition. That translates into fewer ladies drinks and fewer EWRs.
Anyone who has experienced a drop in income will know that it is a difficult adjustment. For a Filipina, whose family is demanding ever increasing amounts of support money, the pressure can be enormous. The falling star may not be wearing much jewelry but they probably have some pawnshop slips in their purse. These girls can be aggressive in the bar. They can’t let you spend 15 minutes looking at the bikinis on stage.
They will be flashing their susu’s (breasts) or other body
parts in your direction. Lap dancing and heavy petting are often on the menu. They will be asking you to EWR them and not be concerned with getting more than one ladies drink. In my experience they can make excellent EWR’s. They will often be more willing to accommodate your specific sexual requests than a younger and more popular girl.
Their years in the bar scene will also give them a lot more skill than some of the newer girls. Turn the lights off in your hotel room and have fun.
AGGRESSIVE GIRL
It seems that most bars have one or two very aggressive girls working for them. The aggressive girl is usually the first to greet you when you walk into the bar. She is often has the loudest voice in the bar.
She is probably not shy about revealing various body parts to you, even from on stage. She will sit down beside you or even on your lap without an invitation. A ladies drinks will magically appear, again often without your consent. The bar tolerates her aggressiveness because of the number of ladies drinks that she sells in an evening.
Typically, she is not very interested in EWR as that costs her time
from the bar that she could be making commissions on ladies drinks. If she does go EWR then it is probably short time or she could very well be a runner.
It is easy to distinguish the falling star from the aggressive girl. If you are under a lot of pressure to buy ladies drinks then you are dealing with an aggressive girl. Fortunately it is also easy to avoid the clutches of an aggressive girl in the bar.
Simply refuse to buy her a ladies drink and she will be on the lap of another bar patron in an instant.
TBIRD
Most bars have one or two Tbirds (lesbians) working in the bar. They may not be obvious but certainly the other bargirls know which girls are the Tbirds. I really can’t say what proportion of Tbirds are bisexual. I have seen some Tbird's be barfined by a lesbian foreigner.
I know of one that goes to PI to do just that. Once you know which girls in the bar are Tbirds it can be fun to watch them interact with a straight bargirl. Imagine EWRing two Tbirds to put on a show in your hotel room while you are getting it on with a heterosexual bargirl!
COMMITTED GIRL
Some AC bargirls already have boyfriends (foreigner or Filipino) or
even husbands. They are working in the bar because they need the money to keep their partner(s) happy. Sadly, some level of domestic abuse may be involved.
They are not likely going to make you happy in your
hotel room when their life is so sad. They are often adept at keeping the fact of a boyfriend a secret from customers. If they seem reluctant to agree to long time or discuss particular sexual positions then there is a good chance that they are committed to another guy.
They are often under pressure from the bar to get more EWRs. If
mamasan is pushing you to EWR, but the girl seems reluctant, then you may be dealing with a committed girl. If you do EWR a committed girl then you have a much higher than normal chance of dealing with a runner on your hands.
SHABU GIRL
Sadly, the illegal and addictive amphetamine shabu is readily
available in the PI. Some girls are working in bars simply to finance their shabu addiction. The medical symptoms of a shabu user are: increased energy, perception, self confidence as well as a sense of euphoria.
However, they also commonly experience irritability, impulsivity, impaired judgement, and insomnia, as well as nausea, dizziness and anorexia. Personally, I avoid the moody, skinny girls that appear to be high. It is really not something that you can totally avoid, so I would not worry about it too much.
ALCOHOLIC GIRL
A bargirl consuming tequila shots every evening will eventually
develop a dependence on alcohol. If you think that the only alcoholics in PI are the foreigners and the expats then you are fooling yourself.
Yes, 19 year old bargirls can be alcoholics. It doesn’t take much
tequila to get a 90 lbs. bargirl drunk. If you think that a drunk or
hungover bargirl is going to be a wildcat in bed then you are sadly
mistaken. You are far more likely to be cleaning up after her,
listening to dry heaves all night or staring at her comatose body. If its 10 pm and a bargirl has already had a few too many then ask her when her shift starts. You can always come back another day and rescue her from the evil demon tequila by EWRing her when her shift starts.
Just don’t take her barhopping for six hours or at least make sure she is drinking something other than booze.
THREE HOLER GIRL
If you are really interested in a three holer girl then I think you
would have better luck asking the mamasan first. Be sure to buy the mamasan a drink before you pop that question. Few girls in the bars are three holers and shy to talk about it inside the bar. Like I said ask the mamasan. They know which are the three holers in the bar.
Hope you get to enjoy at least once each of the type of bargirls in
PI. It will fulfill your PI dream in some sort of way.[/QUOTE]
I have a friend that is over in the city of BARRIO BARRETTO and wants me to visit him. He said that there is a place called BARTS RESORT where I can stay. Have any of you fellas stayed here or know of another place around the area that is a better choice. He said this town is 4 hours by cab from Manilla??
Is there any other way to get there?? Are there any bars in this city?? I have only sopoken once to him via telephone so I did not ask him all the questions I had about the area. Ant info on the related subject would be helpful.
Play safe.
[QUOTE=Full Tilt]Diver,
Try Beeline travel in AC. They have been around a while and are reliable.[/QUOTE]
Tried e-mailing them, no reply yet.
I also tried booking online, but they would only accept credit card purchase if I am in the travelling party (ie, one of the passengers). I'm not. I'm only buying this ticket for the girl.
Cebu Local - is there anyway around this restriction? I know it's there for our protection, but it kind of puts me in a bind here.
So, I need a travel agent who can sell me e-ticket (that cannot be cashed) from Gen San to Cebu and back over the internet or phone and accept credit card payments.
Anyone able to help???
how much is a flight (in USD) roughly from BKK to PI, is it worth a 3-4 day visit in Dec and what would be a great beach city and nightlife to visit for first timer. Is safety situation in PI of concern these days? - thank you.
[QUOTE=Diver69]Tried e-mailing them, no reply yet.
I also tried booking online, but they would only accept credit card purchase if I am in the travelling party (ie, one of the passengers). I'm not. I'm only buying this ticket for the girl.
Cebu Local - is there anyway around this restriction? I know it's there for our protection, but it kind of puts me in a bind here.
So, I need a travel agent who can sell me e-ticket (that cannot be cashed) from Gen San to Cebu and back over the internet or phone and accept credit card payments.
Anyone able to help???[/QUOTE]
If you are looking for Travel Agent within the Phil I suggest:
Action Travel
Stall 44, Fields Avenue, Balibago
Angeles City, 2009
Philippines
Tel PI: +63-45-892 5407
Tel PI: +63-45-625 6357
Cell PI: +63-919-497 9292
Tel US: +1-818-435 4167
MSN Messenger: [email]action_travel@hotmail.com[/email]
e-mail: [email]info@actiontravelac.com[/email]
[url]http://www.actiontravelac.com[/url]
I used them to book a hotel in Manila at a very favorable rate.
Bcarting 1,
BARRIO BARRETTO is a suburb of Subic City on Subic Bay. I believe that it actually fails into Olongapo's jurisdiction and the "girlie bars" fell out of favor with Mrs. Gordon. So, they have moved a short distance up the road into Subic City proper. Check out that board for more details.
FD
Sean EZ,
Right now flights are in the low $200's BKK MNL BKK. About $100 more if you do it the other way MNL BKK MNL. Go figure.
Worth it for 3-4 days? Not to me. Beach with night life: Puerto Galera or places further south that I am not familiar with, such as Cebu.
Safety: Your comfort level may be completely different than mine, so I'll pass on that one.
FD
Firedick,
Thanks for the info on B.B. I have see what you are talking about in reference to the dance clubs/bars in this city. The mayor said that he wanted all that stuff cleaned up years back. As for Barts Resort anyone have in fo on this place? I have ben told the price is 25 per day. Sounds like it might be a rat trap?
Thanks again guys, I do get great info from this board from all that post here. I am sure it will make life easy when I take my upcumming trip over.
Play Safe.
[quote=Sean EZ]how much is a flight (in USD) roughly from BKK to PI, is it worth a 3-4 day visit in Dec[/quote]
Just following on from Firedick’s advice might I suggest you look check out the [url=www.philippineairlines.com/tempfiles/1004.asp?nivSel=3_1_1]PAL[/url] website as they have some special on-line prices available until early next year, on the BKK-MNL-BKK route.
On whether its worth going for only 3-4 days I have done that, coming from Hong Kong for only 3 days and yes it was certainly worth it. Many people in the region make such trips because you have many options open to you within the Philippines.
Is it safe – it’s up to you to determine that for yourself.
With respect, kinda "apples and oranges" IMHO. If I were in Hong Kong, then a 3-4 trip would be worth it. But from BKK ? Not for me.
FD
[b]Firedick,[/b]
I agree 100% with what you say, but you know what human nature is like, no matter how good the game we’re always curious about trying something new. Bangkok has the edge over the Philippines but despite the many faults of the Philippines the women are probably the easiest in the world for GFE.
What is the process of marrage in the phil. What is the first step in the process after you get there? How long will the process take?? How long after you have a new bride will it take to get here over to the U.S?
Will it take long to get the papperwork so that you will be able to wed in a 15-18 day trip over? Is the visa to enter the U.S. a long and hard process.
I will be interested in any info from you fellas about my post. All the members here have ben of great help and I do thank you for that.
Play safe.
Whether you marry her there or not the process will take at least 6 to 8 months and cost at least a thousand after application,health,forms etc, not to mention your own costs,,understand this if you do a fiancee visa you must marry in 90 days or she goes back but you sign a form saying you will support her a minimum of 2 years. It is not a quick process and there could be problems.. you must show income , she must show she is single,lots of things.
I'm told it's fairly easy to arrange a civil marriage here, however that makes it more difficult to secure a visa to the US or Europe. I've also be told by friends that the easiest, quickest means is to apply for a fiance visa, but at Marc 25 said, this too is going to entail a lengthy wait with no guarantee of success at the end.
It's getting increasingly difficult to secure any kind of exit visa to the west.
GE
[QUOTE=GoodEnough]I'm told it's fairly easy to arrange a civil marriage here, however that makes it more difficult to secure a visa to the US or Europe. [/QUOTE]
If Europe is difficult then the UK is even harder, to obtain a visa to come to the country, it is no different for a Philippino national, than a Australian or American national. Most Brits who have been through this process will tell you that you should be prepared for a long wait (two years plus) and many interviews along the way.
Here is a link:
[url]www.ukvisas.gov.uk[/url]
INS form 129-F (fiancee'). Took me just about a year. (Prior to 9-11) Everything added time. My girl had no birth record, so we were starting from scratch.
Keep it simple, stick to girls that already have a Rep. of Philippines passport and you may shave months off the ordeal.
Better yet. Marry her there and leave her there. Or skip the marry part.
Bcarting,
I am assuming that you have a lot of experience with Filapinas, otherwise you would not be considering it. If not, TAKE YOUR TIME.
FD
Can anyone tell me how far from Manila is Laguna and is it north or south of Manila. Thanks for any information . as it is important to know this.
Porty!!
Laguna the province is on the south side of "Laguna de Bay" south of Manila. For an accurate ETA we'd have to know where in Laguna.
FD
[QUOTE=Firedick]Laguna the province is on the south side of "Laguna de Bay" south of Manila. For an accurate ETA we'd have to know where in Laguna.
FD[/QUOTE]San Pedro,Binan,Sta Rosa about 30 minutes,Cabuyao,Calamba,Los Banos,Bay or Alaminos about an hour,San Pablo,Victoria,Pila,Sta Cruz,Pagsanjan,Calauan,Cavinti,Kalayaan,Paete,Liliw,Nagcarlan and any other town about one and a half hours to two hours.This is the driving time for ALL the towns in Laguna from Makati.This should cover all areas
[QUOTE=Candyman2005]I am looking to make a wise investment in the PI, just wondering if any of you have or would invest in the PI. I am not quite sure what area I would invest in (clubs, cell phones, security) but it seems like they are trying very hard to attract more tourist into AC and from what I have seen it may be a good investment move.
What do all of you with wisdom of the PI think?[/QUOTE]
Forget owning a [i]go go bar[/i], an internet café or security company how about starting a themepark /waterpark in Angeles City?
[QUOTE=Juniour]Forget owning a [i]go go bar[/i], an internet café or security company how about starting a themepark /waterpark in Angeles City?[/QUOTE]Not that I am advocating investing in a Water Theme Park,But there is one already one called Fontana inside Clark
Hi all,
This is my first post here, I should first off apologize for my long post; I do have a tendency to be long winded at times. I have been a long time lurker on this great site and I’ve finally decided to step up and start posting. I have personally gained a wealth of information from this site ranging from travel and cultural info to where to find the hot spots and what’s a good price for a bar fine. I want to join this site for intelligent and thoughtful conversation and to share relevant experiences that I’ve had. It is clearly not my intention to flame or be flamed.
Let me introduce myself; my story may or may not be similar to others who post here. I’m 38, never been married and am in decent shape, I haven’t had the best of luck with American women and relationships, but I also don’t consider myself to be a desperate loser either. I started my mongering adventures about five or six years ago as a lonely single guy looking for love in all the wrong places. I’ve gone to many an Asian massage parlor here in the states and have had some great and not so great encounters. One result of these numerous experiences is that I have developed an almost unhealthy attraction to Asian women.
I am a monger by actions for sure, although I believe in treating women with respect, I think that comes from the “nice guy” tendencies that are buried inside me. I prefer passionate encounters that are mutually satisfying. I enjoy giving women passionate physical satisfaction, for me that is truly arousing and erotic. In my view, nothing beats a horned up honey in a state of jubilant ecstasy that has dropped all her inhibitions. In short; I seek the girl friend experience.
Several years ago I turned to the internet and started a quest with the sincere intention of finding a relationship with a foreign woman that could eventually lead to marriage. I made contact with several Filipinas, although it was always on a friendship only basis as I never believed in getting involved in some kind of long distance virtual relationship with someone I have not even met. I decided to get off the fence and take the plunge about a year ago and took my first trip to the Phils last December. I can honestly say that I had the time of my life; I visited Manila, Davao and Boracay.
My first impressions were that of absolute culture shock, I was not prepared for the scenes of abject poverty that I witnessed countless times on my month long stay. My general impression of the Filipino people is that although they are often times very poor, they are rich in spirit, living in adversity but with a smile on their faces.
I have often wrestled with my conscience over my mongering tendencies against my desire to be the “nice guy” that I want to be. Nothing illustrates this better than my first trip to the Phils. On one hand, I went there to meet sweet young Filipinas, on the other hand I wanted to sow some more of my seemingly endless supply of wild oats. Let me say that my mongering side won. Sometimes I visualize myself with little cartoon characters on my shoulder, one the little angel who tells me to be that nice guy, the other shoulder has the little devil who says have some fun and live a little. Needless to say, it’s the devil that often wins the argument!
Literally within hours of landing at Ninoy Aquino Airport I was at the EDSA Center with eyes wide open and tongue hanging out, I was in heaven! I brought home a lovely local named Jenny from a bar called, I believe, My Fair Lady. We actually spent the next 48 hours together, and by that I mean constant companionship like we here joined at the hip, or I should say joined at another appendage! I decided to let her go after a few days as I didn’t want to spend all of my time with just one girl, although in reality I really enjoyed her company and was reluctant to say goodbye.
After we said our farewell I went to a cyber café down the street and before I knew it I was chatting with a little 22 year old babe from Cebu sitting at the computer next to me. Her name was Anna and the next thing I know we were holding hands strolling down Bay Walk along Roxas Blvd. We then stopped at one of the café’s for a drink where she confessed to me that she works at LA café as a bar girl. She comes to Manila a few months out of the year to make some extra cash. To make a long story short, we ended up at my hotel for a good all night romp, the next morning she wanted to stay with me for the day but I didn’t want to get any more involved. She never did ask for any money but I gave her some anyways just to keep things on a “professional” level.
That night I hit a bar called G Spot in Ermita that was practically across the street from the Lotus Garden Hotel where I stayed. I sat at the bar, ordered a San Mig and before I took my third swig there was a Filipina hottie sitting next to me asking my name. Her name was Lorie and as it turns out she works at some bar on Burgos St. I started to think that every girl in this city works as a bar girl! Anyways, the same story; back to my hotel, an all night GFE, wanted to stay with me all day and never asked for money although I gave her some anyways. To this day I’m still not sure if she was a bar girl on her night off looking for a boyfriend or turning a trick on the side.
I decided to call Jenny up, the girl from my first night as I actually missed her. I ended up spending the rest of the week with her. She was more of a girlfriend than a bar girl, I did not pay any bar fines and I actually had an emotional scene on my hands later in the week when I tried to give her money. She was deeply hurt and insulted that I wanted to pay for her company. I’m not sure of the lesson learned here, other than that I believe that there are a certain number of women who work in these bars and they are filled with shame because of it. Maybe the moral is that a little kindness goes a long way with a lot of these women. Keep in mind that this isn’t necessarily a bad thing depending on what you’re looking for.
I flew to Davao on Cebu Pacific and stayed at Casa Leticia for the next two weeks. One of the main reasons I went to Davao was to meet in person a young 20 year old lady who I had been corresponding with for several months before my trip. I had met her, along with several other women, through the Cherry Blossoms website. She was a very sweet girl, a true Filipina gem. She had recently finished school and just started a job working at a call center. I should mention that she was a virgin, she was from a good family that raised her and her sister right. They showed me very generous hospitality; they invited me to dinner and several family outings. However, as nice as she was there lacked a certain chemistry that one cannot know until you have met in person.
I also met some other “normal girls” in Davao, most of who were virgins; I went from one extreme to the next, either bar girls or virgins! Interestingly enough they all seemed to think that I was a great guy full of morals and decency. I couldn’t help but think that these particular women could do better than a guy like me. Don’t get me wrong, It’s not that I’m putting these women on too high a pedestal or put myself too low in the gutter, it’s just that it bothered me is that I wasn’t being totally honest with them. For if they truly knew of my mongering tendencies they would probably not want to have a thing to do with me. In a certain irony, I am more honest with the bargirls than with these sweet things. Let me say that I have no intention of deflowering any of these women. I respect their choices and do not want to change them. One thing I did learn from this experience was to avoid virgins in the future as I am not compatible with them for anything more than friendship.
For the last week of my trip I decided to splurge and go to Boracay for a few days, I took Jenny from Manila and had a great time. I still talk with her to this day and I genuinely care about her well being. I have sent her some money from time to time, not much. For the record she has never once asked for it.
In conclusion, I actually have the desire to live in the Philippines. I think it would be great to get the mongering out of my system so I can think straight! After a month there of fucking myself silly, I had an entirely new perspective on just about everything; including myself, a greater understanding of women and of the human condition in general. I have come to admire the Filipino spirit and truly would like to find a good woman to marry someday. I can think of no better way than to live there full time so I could not only pursue women on a full time basis, but also try and understand the life and culture there as well. I actually envy some posters here that have found a way to have a successful career in a third world country.
I will be traveling for my second trip to the Phils this upcoming November and December; my tentative stops will be in Manila, Angeles, Cebu and Davao. If any of you expats, mongers, conversationalists or adventurers want to meet up for a drink or two and perhaps and evening of debauchery, then the first round is on me!
Cheers,
Sagramore
Perhaps start a new bus service Manila - AC for foreign visitors. Fly-the-Bus has monopolized the route with buses that can only be called junk. The buses are very old discarded Japanese used vehicles and I am sure not safe. Many people have experienced breakdowns in transit, including myself. Have more pick-up points and have very very friendly beautiful stewardesses on the new bus service with a private partitioned area at the back!
Hi Sagramore,
Welcome to the board and great job on your first post, much better than I have ever attempted. I always get to caught up in the action while there to report much. Plus I put a big value on pictures that I try to post when I can.
I've also been on the Asian Massage Table on more than one occasion in the USA, although it has been some years since I have. I live close to Greensboro, NC and there used to be a large number of Asian Massage Parlors there, but at last the crooks...I mean cops caught up to them and closed them all down a few years ago. We used to travel 90 minutes each way on some Friday nights just to have some fun there. The reason I bring this up is that these massage parlors were almost exclusively Korean woman which I found much more willing to please than other Asian women. I also have found more luck with Korean women in strip clubs as well, when jabbering with them and getting them to leave the bar for outside entertainment.
However I found that Filipina's in the USA were very difficult to deal with when compared to other Asian women, but when you travel to their home countries I found that it was the exact opposite. In Korea it was not near as nice as the Philippines nor in China.. Just some observations on my part.
For your semi-girlfriend who became somewhat upset at you paying her, I have had the same problem in the past. What I learned to do was wait, but stay in touch with the girl if I really like her. At some point she will need some money and will make the need known to you. Then I will send them some money or if I am in the Philippines still I will arrange another meeting where I can help her out. The difference is very important to them at times. Of course this is not always possible and you may not want to stay in touch. In this case I take her shopping or try to slip some money in their pockets or purse if they have one. I almost always receive a text thank you later when I slip them some money.
Enjoy and take it from semi-long term monger. I don't think I will ever get it out of my system and I also want to marry I nice Filipina one day and have a family. It is so readily available when there. I guess I have no will power. Ah, what to do what do to?
FF
Hi FF,
Thanks for the reply and kind words.
I too have found an overwhelming majority of women in stateside AMPs are Korean and will definitely go the extra mile if you get the right one. I live in Michigan now where the pickin’s can be pretty slim, although I’ve found a few good ones where they know me by name. I used to live out in Los Angeles and had some great times with both Hispanic and Asian masseuses. Although it seems more and more wherever you go the LE has taken it upon themselves to protect the helpless public from the dangers that lie behind closed doors in private establishments.
As to the lack of will power when it comes to some mongering action, I’m willing to bet that you and I aren’t the only ones on this board with that problem!
Cheers!
Sagramore
Nice post Sagramore. You are not alone in your spiritual tug of war and most of the guys I know encounter the same dilemma. I think the problem is that it's just so easy here and the women so lovely that it's not possible to resist for very long. You should hhowever, keep in mind, that living here is not without its frustrations as well. As in most third world countries, things do not work here as well as they do in the West. The general administrative incompetence, at all levels, is sometimes diificult to deal with, espeically if you're trying to get something accomplished in the business sector.
Let me know when you plan on coming to Davao, and I'll take you up on the beer, if not the night of debauchery.
:D
GE
Hi sagramore
I will be more then happy to have a beer with you either in Manila or Cebu.Curious to get your take on deflowering virgins,Cheers
GE,
I will probably be in Davao either the last week of November or the first week in December; it would be my pleasure to share a drink or debauchery.
You bring up an interesting point about just how easy it is to find and bed the lovely women of the Philippines, yes it’s so easy for us foreigner guys to get lucky, the question of the day is; do Filipino men enjoy the same success that we Westerners do? I do not know the answer to this, I would be curious to know of other opinions on this subject.
Cheers,
Sagramore
Hi Cebu Local,
It would be great to share a beer or ten while discussing the virtues of deflowering virgins, perhaps an appropriate place for said discussion could be a dimly lit smoky bar with loud music and dancing girls. ;)
Cheers!
Sagramore
Sagramore:
Just send me a PM after you have confirmed your dates for Davao and we'll get together. We can even introduce you to a "normal" woman or two.
The answer to your question is that it's not as easy for most Filipinos. however, for those with decent educations and well-paying jobs, it's not too difficult either. I work with a few such guys and they do just fine. How ver, those guys can't offer them the hope of getting out of here, while we of course can.
GE
[QUOTE=Sagramore]GE,
I will probably be in Davao either the last week of November or the first week in December; it would be my pleasure to share a drink or debauchery.
You bring up an interesting point about just how easy it is to find and bed the lovely women of the Philippines, yes it’s so easy for us foreigner guys to get lucky, the question of the day is; do Filipino men enjoy the same success that we Westerners do? I do not know the answer to this, I would be curious to know of other opinions on this subject.
Cheers,
Sagramore[/QUOTE]IMHO I hang out a lot with the Local elite and can say that the rich or powerful or good looking ones do quite well ,Thank you.There are a lot of freebies available to local men in the above 3 categories.Sunflower is one such place in Cebu,just my 2 centavos opinion
In the Philippines we often barfine LT girls that probably don't want to be with you. Many are innocent and don't know how to play the game. I have found an effective tactic that works surprisingly often. "Sure you can go home early, but first I want your ass." I was shocked how this was accepted. In 5 times 3 capitualted and left their cherries behind and the other 2 stayed.
Please ask to go home early babe.
[QUOTE=Fastpiston]Perhaps start a new bus service Manila - AC for foreign visitors. Fly-the-Bus has monopolized the route with buses that can only be called junk. The buses are very old discarded Japanese used vehicles and I am sure not safe. Many people have experienced breakdowns in transit, including myself. Have more pick-up points and have very very friendly beautiful stewardesses on the new bus service with a private partitioned area at the back![/QUOTE]If anyone needs, I have a GREAT contact (driver) that I have used for years that has door-to-door service as well as "hook-up" help...
n_r
Where should I look for a multi night deal in the Manila area?? I will try and travel to Cebo and Bahol for a 2-3 night stay and get back to the Manila area around the 15th day of december. I am flying out on the 28th day of dec. I just was thinking of a weekley rate stay hotel or suite. I do not need the ritz but a nice clean setting would be my request.
Sagramore,
Your post inspired me to do my own first post on since about 3 months ago (is the WSG name still used around here) because I share some of the same ways of thinking and have become "a changed man" from spending time in the Phils. I've been posting and lurking on WSG since about 1995.
Some of you have maybe seen my posts before. I've had an IT business in Cebu for 1 year now. I fly back and forth between the US and Cebu. I have a wife in the US and that is an impossible situation. Had I known I'd start the biz I would not have married.
I work about 80 hours a week when in cebu so I don't even have time to meet girls. This is not hard for me if I had time, as I have the look the Cebuanos love in Americans. I also don't have any trouble meeting very attractive woman in the US who will fuck (but it takes so much longer and it's not 1/10 as easy!)
So, out of sheer lack of time I've spent countless nights in the bars in Cebu when I could just go out and meet someone. I generally go into bars like a hawk: very goal oriented. I don't let girls approach me: I find the best looking/best attititue (for my tastes) and swoop in on her when I know who she is
Sometimes I go to 5 bars in 40 minutes doing quick surveys to see if I want to wait a bit more before spending the time to talk up someone that really looks like they would be a worthy catch. Rush, rush, rush: that's me in the Phils.
At this point I'd say I've had 4 girlfriends over the past year who I met in bars. I like the arrangement, because they let me fool around on the side (they are!) but I don't have to spend money on them any more than a regular girlfriend.
What is very interesting from my last stay is that some of the girls in the bars only let themselves be bar-fined a couple times a month or less. That was the case with my latest "girlfriend" from a bar. While I was with her for about 6 weeks she only left the bar with 1 other guy. She let me fool around a little with other bar girls at other bars but just a little. She will let and must let guys buy lady drinks, which means they're feeling her up, but she doesn't leave with them. Believe me, she gets A LOT of drinks. I don't know if she tells guys that she won't be "available" in advance.
I like that the girls can choose to not be bar-fined. This is a decent way for some of them to make some quick cash for a couple months if they come out of a family with no money (she got part way through college and dropped out when they money ended).
If you are lucky, you will find girls (in my case one of the hottest/best attitiude girls I've met in bars) that you treat very nicely -- and if you have what they would look for in a Western boyfriend (and MONEY does not have to be the big factor)-- they will spend time with you and just dance while at work (I know, you're all saying she's full of shit and she just doesn't tell me that she's leaving with 65 year old guys 3 days a week, but I have my ways of knowing that she just dances and leaves the bar once every month or so, one of which is that I call her at bar-close without advance notice and ask her to meet me).
So, if you live in the phils or are there for a LONG vaca and are VERY busy like me, this is a good alternative. Oh, and i'm not wealthy-- every cent is in the biz.
As far as mongering, I don't know what to do about my passion for fucking at least 10 different girls a month (when i don't have the "girlfriend" arrangement I used to do that all the time). I treat woman well and there's nothing I love more than tasting the flavor of so many woman. I do think sleeping with many women, if they enjoy it and it's mutual which it is for me most of the time because I go out of my way to please them in bed, is about the most enjoyable thing I know of in life.
So, to leave my marraige or not...that is the 1 mm USD question. Trouble is lately my wife and I get along well which wasn't the case before. I HATE the lies and for SURE she will find out one day. This biz of mine in the Phils with a small office in the US is not going away in the next 10 years.
Well that's my Sunday ramble. Back to WORK for me.
Hi Wander Luster,
So you peaked my curiosity or I'm just being nosey. Is your wife Asian? American? born in the USA?
Thanks,
FF
Wunder Luster: Nice post and I'm sure most of it is true from my experience in the Philippines. What I do doubt though is your US wife's part of this. No woman is happy in a relationship being left alone for long periods of a time whilst their 'husband' is (as she well knows) working 'hard' for her. I would suggest and guess that she is working as hard as you. Just my 50 centavos.
Hey there!
I am considering where in Asia to go for about 2 1/2 weeks. One thing I love to do on my trips is to chase girls, for sure. While I'm not above going for a pro now and then, I generally like to go places where I(as a very fit,31 year old American) have a good shot at meeting non-pros at clubs, etc. It's usually hit or moss and I don't get upset if nothing come up. So, I have two questions about Phillipines:
1. How easy is it to meet women here? I realize this is subjective but your best opinion is most welcome.
2. What is the safety situation like? I've done some searching here and gotten a little info., but would like some current opinions. I know all about the south,but what's it like in Manila? Cebu? Angeles city? How is it compared to Thailand? Mexico?
I've searched both of these topics here but would love your opinion. Wherever I go, I'll make sure and report back(w/pics...bwah-ha-ha!!).
S-
#1- easy in the extreme. You will not meet a more flirtaious girl in the world than the Filipina. All, not just the pros.
#2- IMHO, if you stick to the tourist areas, I would say that the RP is a little more danergous than Thailand, but not greatly so. and a little safer than TJ.
You will quite probably get different opinions.
FD
[QUOTE=Sam5935]Hey there!
I am considering where in Asia to go for about 2 1/2 weeks. One thing I love to do on my trips is to chase girls, for sure. While I'm not above going for a pro now and then, I generally like to go places where I(as a very fit,31 year old American) have a good shot at meeting non-pros at clubs, etc. It's usually hit or moss and I don't get upset if nothing come up. So, I have two questions about Phillipines:
1. How easy is it to meet women here? I realize this is subjective but your best opinion is most welcome.
2. What is the safety situation like? I've done some searching here and gotten a little info., but would like some current opinions. I know all about the south,but what's it like in Manila? Cebu? Angeles city? How is it compared to Thailand? Mexico?
I've searched both of these topics here but would love your opinion. Wherever I go, I'll make sure and report back(w/pics...bwah-ha-ha!!).
Sam,
If I was you I would go and visit both Manila/Makati and Angelas City.
The reason I prefer both is you get to experience two different types of atmospheres. In Manila, especially on Burgos Street you will get overwhelmed with attention. When you walk into a bar there it is like walking into a atmosphere where you will feel like the party is made especially for you. It is almost like a fantasy happening or you are in a dream world!. Immediately you have groups of girls surrounding you and trying to talk to you as well as hustle you for drinks, which you do not do as the prices are high there for ladies drinks. To get that type of attention is exciting to me, as it makes you feel like you are someone who is very special, even if it is for only a few minutes. It is a very uplifting feeling that gives you a high that you rarely in your life will probably experience. Just something about having a group of 10 girls or so around you at one time all trying to talk to you is a lot of fun. In Angelas City you will not recieve this type of attention as it is more laid back. I would really encourage someone to go to Burgos Street who has never been there before. The same goes for going to the EDSA Complex, but again you will be experiencing a different type of atmosphere there than you would on Burgos Street.
As far as cost goes, you can find a nice hotel walking distance to Burgos Street or right on Burgos Street that is comparably priced to the Orchid Hotel which is the hotel I woud recommend to you if you elect to go to Angelas City. ($35-$45.00 per night). The La Cafe drink prices are very similar to Angelas City. You will pay more for drinks on Burgos Street, at the EDSA Complex, and the new complex, but for the experience you will get I find it well worth it, especially if you do not go wild on buying ladies drinks. Barfines I very rarely pay as I always arrange for the girls to meet me after there work is done for the night by arranging dates for the next day, or by finding the one I want to spend the night with and providing them my hotel information, or going back and meeting them a half hour to an hour before they get off of work. Food prices are very similar to Angelas City so there is no cost differential there. The only added cost comparably to A.C. is you might have to use a taxi to go from Burgos Street to Manila but the cost is very very minimal.
The other advantage to spending some time in Manila for a new comer to the Philippines is they get to experience the culture of Manila and see what life and the lifestyle is like in a city such as Manila, in addition to the mongering scene. In Angelas City there is NO LIFE other than to monger. Manila just provides more opportunities is the bottom line. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND TO A FIRST TIMER TO THE PHILIPPINES TO CHECKOUT BOTH PLACES AS THEY BOTH CONTAIN DIFFERENT ATMOSPHERES AND EXPERIENCES.
As far as being safe goes. It is like in any area including your home area. Get to know your surrounding and do not put yourself in situations that can jeopardize your safety. I actually own a home in Puerto Vallarta and have been to Thailand on numerous occasions. Following the common sense rules I find the Philippines to be just as safe if not safer than the other areas I mentioned.
One last point I would like to make is you. You will find a better quality of girls in the Manila/Makati area and you will not become known to all the girls which is a plus in my opinion. In A.C. you will be seeing the same faces day after day while you are there. This is just my perspective on it and it is just an expression of my thoughts to your question.
Hotels, I would encourage you to check out the hotels listed below if you plan to stay in Makati as these are reasonably priced, secure, clean, and centrally located within walking distance to Burgos Street and shopping areas. The cost for the hotels I have posted is $35.00 to $45.00 dollars a night. I use various websites to locate the best price as you can save yourself some money by doing a little research as the same hotel will be priced differently on these websites. You can also do a search for discounted hotels in Makati and in Manila.
[url]http://www.asiatravel.com/[/url]
[url]http://www.hoteldirect.com/[/url]
[url]http://www.directrooms.com/[/url]
[url]http://www.precisiontravel.com/[/url]
Best Western Astor
Citadel Inn Makati
[quote=sam5935]hey there!
i am considering where in asia to go for about 2 1/2 weeks. one thing i love to do on my trips is to chase girls, for sure. while i'm not above going for a pro now and then, i generally like to go places where i(as a very fit,31 year old american) have a good shot at meeting non-pros at clubs, etc. it's usually hit or moss and i don't get upset if nothing come up. so, i have two questions about phillipines:
1. how easy is it to meet women here? i realize this is subjective but your best opinion is most welcome.
2. what is the safety situation like? i've done some searching here and gotten a little info., but would like some current opinions. i know all about the south,but what's it like in manila? cebu? angeles city? how is it compared to thailand? mexico?
i've searched both of these topics here but would love your opinion. wherever i go, i'll make sure and report back(w/pics...bwah-ha-ha!!).
s-[/quote]
to sam
i like the girl in philippines better more of gfe type not pro type like in bkk
but in manila the city is very dirty and too many street hustler and begger
will drive you nuts , cost manila is a bit cheaper over all than bangkok .
thai woman is more sexual than pi woman better in bed but i will married an
philippina before i will hook up with a thai woman ,
i will go to cebu is a beautiful island with many place to see and a good place
to find hot college girl very gfe , if you like [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord121][CodeWord121][/url] and scubadiving ,bohol
island dumaguete and talibaran city is also good to get hot girl.
angeles city you can skip is a shit hole is full of hard core monger and very
average girl but is a cheap if you like dirt cheap sex .
fast eddie 48
Wow! You guys are really helpful! And does this flirtatiousness exists at regular bars, on the street, etc.? Any more advice is certainly wemcome. Thanks!
S-
Counterpoint.
You'll find quite a few guys who have an axe to grind about Angeles. I enjoy it, and suggest you give it a look. Real easy to get to.
FD
[QUOTE=Firedick]Counterpoint.
You'll find quite a few guys who have an axe to grind about Angeles. I enjoy it, and suggest you give it a look. Real easy to get to.
FD[/QUOTE]
well firedick
good for you different taste for different folk , i am just a little picker some
time , there is nothing wrong with angeles if you like cheap sex , i just like
the ocean town like boracay , saband and cebu that all . one good thing
is only 2 hr bus from manila .
fast eddie 48
They are flirts everywhere ! You go in to pay your electric bill, the girl behind the counter flirts with you. You buy groceries, she flirts, you pick up your laundry... you get the idea. It is not just in places where the young lady is hoping for a tip, it's everywhere. Probably my favorite thing about the RP.
FE
There is more to Angeles than cheap sex. I have money, I just prefer the attitude in AC. There is also more to do than most people think, but it is harder to find. IE: dirt bike riding, hiking around Pinatubo, Angeles Flying club for ultra light rides, a great Hash House Harriers chapter and the most talented (per capita) pool players in the world. True, if AC was at the ocean, it would be a huge improvement.
FD
I just recieved notice from travelocity of a airfare from Denver to Manila roundtrip for $600.00 dollars on United. The flight times are actually decent as I called United. You fly from Denver to San Francisco with a short layover, then you fly into Hong Kong and fly to Manila on Philippine Air. You arrive at 11pm.
I'll be in the Angeles City, Philippines area from 15-20 Nov if anyone wants to hook up for a drink.
Yella Man
[QUOTE=Yella Man]I'll be in the Angeles City, Philippines area from 15-20 Nov if anyone wants to hook up for a drink.
Yella Man[/QUOTE]What up Yella Man, I take you up on that offer for a drink, you buying?
Yeah. I'm really having a tough time deciding where to go. I'm leaning towards the Philipines as I want this trip to be pretty party oriented. I'm concerned that it won't have that exotic, "holy shit" culture shock that I crave as well. I'm also considering Vietnam.
Thoughts anyone?
Does anybody know about any other forums relating to the Philippines especially in regards to women? Preferably not about mongering. I'll stick to this forum for that.
[QUOTE=Sam5935]Yeah. I'm really having a tough time deciding where to go. I'm leaning towards the Philipines as I want this trip to be pretty party oriented. I'm concerned that it won't have that exotic, "holy shit" culture shock that I crave as well. I'm also considering Vietnam.
Thoughts anyone?[/QUOTE]
If culture is just as high on your list as hot babes, my vote would be Vietnam. Hanoi has an incredible about of culture, the food is fabulous, the chicks are hot and the prices are reasonable for everything!
[QUOTE=Wulfe13]Does anybody know about any other forums relating to the Philippines especially in regards to women? Preferably not about mongering. I'll stick to this forum for that.[/QUOTE]
I can suggest one: google.com. They have tons of information re non-mongering forums!
i will be in the philippines this december. i plan on first going to a/c.
i was going to spend some time in manila, however, i have been reading numerous articles in asian newspapers about the alleged [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] of a philippine woman in subic by 5 u.s. marines. naturally, its all bad. has anyone been subject to any anit us remarks, incidents? based on the collecitive experience, any opinion on whether i should skip manila?
thanks.
Hi
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[QUOTE=Candyman2005]What up Yella Man, I take you up on that offer for a drink, you buying?[/QUOTE]
Candyman, You know your always good for a drink or three Big Dawg! Gotcha covered! Four days and counting......
Here's a crazy question, sorry, LOL. How much is a can of Spam in RP? How about those small round cans of New Zealand corned beef? I'd hate to lug a case of Spam as pasalubong only to find it cheaper there (it's about $2.15 a can here). My inlaws love it.
[QUOTE=Harvey Wb]Here's a crazy question, sorry, LOL. How much is a can of Spam in RP? How about those small round cans of New Zealand corned beef? I'd hate to lug a case of Spam as pasalubong only to find it cheaper there (it's about $2.15 a can here). My inlaws love it.[/QUOTE]
I don't remember the exact price but I know that it is very close in price. However, many people have told me that the taste is different. Therefore, we bring a few cans from the States to give to family members over there. Also, we always have to bring back Pure Foods brand Corned beef because people over in the States like it.
Can someone direct me to the thread that has the "best of" photos? I can't find it anywhere!
S-
[QUOTE=Sugoi]I don't remember the exact price but I know that it is very close in price. However, many people have told me that the taste is different. Therefore, we bring a few cans from the States to give to family members over there. Also, we always have to bring back Pure Foods brand Corned beef because people over in the States like it.[/QUOTE]Its about 10 cents more expensive at Duty Free Philiippines and about 25 cents more expensive at SM Supermarket.Do your back a favor and buy it here.btw The reason for the difference in taste is that Philippine corned beef is a cara-beef blend which is moist and fattier compared to 100% all beef American corned beef.Read the labels of Phil corned beef,Water Buffalo or Carabao is blended into the Corned Beef Cheers
[QUOTE=Harvey Wb]Here's a crazy question, sorry, LOL. How much is a can of Spam in RP? How about those small round cans of New Zealand corned beef? I'd hate to lug a case of Spam as pasalubong only to find it cheaper there (it's about $2.15 a can here). My inlaws love it.[/QUOTE]
to harvey
I do find canned meat price is much higher in asia ,spam in US is around 2.00
usd , i just came back from thailand is 148 bht a can , in manila robinson is
almost 4.00 usd , i have a philipina friend she alway bring alot of canned spam
and corned beef every time she go back to pi , i think she is crazy to carry so
many canned food back .
fast eddie 48
I really don't get why people like spam so much. Hawaiians go bonkers over the stuff too. Even eat it for breakfast. I think the US armed forces got people hooked on the stuff in WW II. I suppose it is an aquired taste.
[QUOTE=Mattrick]I really don't get why people like spam so much. Hawaiians go bonkers over the stuff too. Even eat it for breakfast. I think the US armed forces got people hooked on the stuff in WW II. I suppose it is an aquired taste.[/QUOTE]In Korea Spam is prestige food served in Spam sushi,Spam teppanyaki etc.Manila has a restaurant called Spam jam which offers spam cooked in over 100 ways,In Spam Burritos,Spam Spaghetti,Spam Sushi etc.
[QUOTE=Cebu Local]Its about 10 cents more expensive at Duty Free Philiippines and about 25 cents more expensive at SM Supermarket.Do your back a favor and buy it here.btw The reason for the difference in taste is that Philippine corned beef is a cara-beef blend which is moist and fattier compared to 100% all beef American corned beef.Read the labels of Phil corned beef,Water Buffalo or Carabao is blended into the Corned Beef Cheers[/QUOTE]Spam isn't corned beef, it's made from Pork. I didn't notice a difference in taste when I was in the Phils, and I eat Spam fairly often here in the States. And it was about the same price. There is a big difference in taste if you buy the generic version.
Guys,
I posted somethiing about my situation, but I think it was on wsg.com. That was very confusing when this board moved. I'm still not sure about the transition.
Anyway, I am in a win/win or maybe loose/loose situation.
I'm attractive and in mid 30s. Compared to other western guys who would be judged the same as me in the US, somehow PH girls seem to like me a lot more.
Married to a lovely woman in the US. Pretty good marriage but not great.
I split my year going back and forth between PH and here cause I own a biz in one of the top 3 cities and have employees there. When I'm there I can't stop thinking about how amazing it would be to not sneak around and not lie.
To have incredible freedom to go to beaches with whomever I want when I want without worries. I am my own boss.
When I'm home it would seem lonely to be single.
And then there's the option of just being not married and living in the PH for 10 months of the year.
So I'm especially interested to hear from you guys that are married and somehow "restricted" by a marriage and who are older than me.
I have no kids, I could break this if it's the right thing. You may have kids which is a different story for the break. Do you wish you got married if you live in the PH a lot of the year.
Cebu Local, I've gotten so much from you're posts over the past couple years, what do you say if you are or are not single about this issue?
Thanks!
Anyone know the fastest way to get a local id in makati,my hotel has local rates one half the regular and it would really help ,appreciate any imput
Wow, thanks for all of the comments. Cebu Local, you are right, will probably buy it there. We will bring back some corned beef, as ours is quite different from what my wife is used to. We do eat it for breakfast and I was introduced to Spam by my GI father in the 1950's, reintroduced to it by my Filipina wife, now with rice and Filipino style fried eggs for breakfast. Never thought I would like rice in my breakfast menu! Yesterday we had Longenesa (sp?) rice and eggs here in NJ, USA, one of my favorites.
On another note, from another thread, I believe that 90 "something" % of Filipinas would make "somebody" a good wife, you just have to take the time to meet the one that is right for you, so don't be in a rush. Remember, the searching can also be very rewarding, LOL, just be careful of other's feelings.
[QUOTE=Harvey Wb]Wow, thanks for all of the comments. Cebu Local, you are right, will probably buy it there. We will bring back some corned beef, as ours is quite different from what my wife is used to. We do eat it for breakfast and I was introduced to Spam by my GI father in the 1950's, reintroduced to it by my Filipina wife, now with rice and Filipino style fried eggs for breakfast. Never thought I would like rice in my breakfast menu! Yesterday we had Longenesa (sp?) rice and eggs here in NJ, USA, one of my favorites.
On another note, from another thread, I believe that 90 "something" % of Filipinas would make "somebody" a good wife, you just have to take the time to meet the one that is right for you, so don't be in a rush. Remember, the searching can also be very rewarding, LOL, just be careful of other's feelings.[/QUOTE]
I agree with your assessment of Filipina's as wives. I know more that are positive and going strong then the other. I'm still considering one for myself, but to something or another to make the commitment.
But my real question here was to your diet? I couldn't help but wonder if you keep track of your blood pressure with that diet? I had a friend who recently had to take notice of his blood pressure, which has caused me to take notice of mine. I now average 115 over 75 and dropped 15 pounds in 6 weeks.
FF
[QUOTE=Harvey Wb]Wow, thanks for all of the comments. Cebu Local, you are right, will probably buy it there. We will bring back some corned beef, as ours is quite different from what my wife is used to. We do eat it for breakfast [/QUOTE]Remember to paraphrase the old Wendy s slogan in the 90 s",Where s the Buffalo"!!!!
I have Spam maybe 3X a year, LOL and ditto for Tapa, Longanisa (wifey corrected my spelling, LOL, and said "you're on that site again". I told her I'm here for the gastronomical reviews only and never look at the pics!) and the other Filipino Foods. When in RP, I try to eat a "Filipino Breakfast" every day, but since it's been almost 3 years, I'm sure my system has recovered. BP and cholesterol are fine (well 185 for cholesterol sounds good to me after 220, LOL), especially since I quit smoking in March (still miss it).
Looking forward to a possible trip in March: MNL, Romblon, Baguio, a couple of nights at Bali Hai in Bauang, La Union and then, Sinait, Ilocos Sur for maybe a week (between Vigan and Laoag). I'm holding out for a solo trip to Davao just prior to my return to US for a few days, wife and baby will stay in Sinait for a few months. No massage in Sinait though, so I'll be heading to Laoag and/or Vigan for theraputic treatments.
Well, here I sit all excited in Seoul waiting to catch my flight to the Philippines like it’s my cherry voyage again or something. But you know what? It seems like it’s my first time every time every single time I book a trip to the Philippines. It’s just that darn exciting! I’m like a kid on Christmas Eve waiting anxiously for the crack of dawn so I can rip open my presents…only, these presents are much more fun to unwrap, your able to ride them doggy style once you do get them unwrapped, you can unwrap as many as you want (subject to funds and hard wood availability of course), you don’t have to worry about following instructions to put them together, and best of all, you definitely don’t have to wait in the Customer Service line to return the ones you don’t like (just kick them the hell out the room!) Anyway, anyone available for a few drinks hit me with a PM between 16-20 November. More to follow in a few….
Yella Man
NEW YORK (AFP) - Match.com, one of the top Internet dating websites, has been accused of hiring people as "date bait" to date some of their one million customers to encourage them to keep paying for the service.
A Los Angeles racketeering lawsuit said the lonely hearts website secretly recruited people to send enticing emails to its customers and to go out on dates with them as a way of getting them to keep up their 30 dollars monthly subscription.
The company's ringers, branded "date bait", went on as many as 100 dates a month -- three per day -- with Match.com customers, who use the site to search for boyfriends, girlfriends, and possible husbands and wives.
[QUOTE=On The Go]NEW YORK (AFP) - Match.com, one of the top Internet dating websites, has been accused of hiring people as "date bait" to date some of their one million customers to encourage them to keep paying for the service.
A Los Angeles racketeering lawsuit said the lonely hearts website secretly recruited people to send enticing emails to its customers and to go out on dates with them as a way of getting them to keep up their 30 dollars monthly subscription.
The company's ringers, branded "date bait", went on as many as 100 dates a month -- three per day -- with Match.com customers, who use the site to search for boyfriends, girlfriends, and possible husbands and wives.[/QUOTE]
So do you get boom boom or at least a BJ? Which girls [screen names] are they? This could be a good deal!!
[QUOTE=J Boy]So do you get boom boom or at least a BJ? Which girls [screen names] are they? This could be a good deal!![/QUOTE]I'll pay $30 for that deal too!
Over and out,
Guinness
[QUOTE=J Boy]So do you get boom boom or at least a BJ? Which girls [screen names] are they? This could be a good deal!![/QUOTE]
I only copied and pasted it off the Yahoo news this morning as I felt many of my fellow members on here might have previously used the site, are using it, or were thiinking of using it, and I hate to see someone throw there hard earned money away on false hopes or dreams.
[QUOTE=On The Go]I only copied and pasted it off the Yahoo news this morning as I felt many of my fellow members on here might have previously used the site, are using it, or were thiinking of using it, and I hate to see someone throw there hard earned money away on false hopes or dreams.[/QUOTE]I appreciate you looking out for us all.
Over and out,
Guinness
Those damn dating sites are such a scam! I had some Russian girl contact me thru a Yahoo personal. We emailed each other for about a week and I got a strange feeling about her. She never seemed to answer my questions. I decided to search the internet under "russian women scam men" and low and behold who's pic do you think I found? Yep, she had about 4 or 5 aliases and they showed a sample letter that these women would send out after emailing you a few times. The next day I received an email from her that was almost word for word the same as the "sample". I sent her a reply saying "Fuck off" and never heard from her again.
I've also noticed the same exact pic of a girl, with 3 different names and locations, several times on those sites.
I think it's better to just chat on Yahoo or whatever and then just go there (Phils).
Wulfe
Hi,everybody,
I just want some info on Cherry Girls in AC. This girl wants 40,000 pesos and she is ready to go with me for a few days on vacation. She also told me I need not use any condom. Also I have to pay 1200 pesos barfine per day.
Is it worth It? Has anybody did pop cherry on these girls? If so how was the experience?
I am thinking seriously about this. By the way this girl is drop dead georgeous and only 18 years old.
[QUOTE=Sammon]Hi,everybody,
I just want some info on Cherry Girls in AC. This girl wants 40,000 pesos and she is ready to go with me for a few days on vacation. She also told me I need not use any condom. Also I have to pay 1200 pesos barfine per day.
Is it worth It? Has anybody did pop cherry on these girls? If so how was the experience?
I am thinking seriously about this. By the way this girl is drop dead georgeous and only 18 years old.[/QUOTE]
hmmmmmm...let me do the math: if say the 'average LT' is 2000/day and she wants 40,000, that means she'll spend the next 20 days with you. and what bar is charging you 1200/day....can i get some of this action?
1200 pesos is the regular barfine per day in AC.
40,000 pesos is for the girl for her virginity. It seems all of 40,000 belongs to her and none of it goes to the bar.
The deal is like this. I pay 40,000 pesos and 1200 pesos to the bar per day. The bar will hold the money for the girl. After we come back I have to to the bar and inform them of my satisfaction with the girl. And then only they will release the money to the girl. If in any case the girl does not allow me to pop her cherry the 40,000 pesos will be returned to me by the bar. The bar apparently vouches for the vrginity of the girl . How they do this i don't know. Maybe they get a doctor's certificate before they allow her to work at the bar as a cherry girl.
It is not the question of money. I can easily afford this. I just want to know if anybody has experience doing this?
Please don't give me an accounting 101 class lecture.
[QUOTE=Sammon]1200 pesos is the regular barfine per day in AC.
40,000 pesos is for the girl for her virginity. It seems all of 40,000 belongs to her and none of it goes to the bar.
The deal is like this. I pay 40,000 pesos and 1200 pesos to the bar per day. The bar will hold the money for the girl. After we come back I have to to the bar and inform them of my satisfaction with the girl. And then only they will release the money to the girl. If in any case the girl does not allow me to pop her cherry the 40,000 pesos will be returned to me by the bar. The bar apparently vouches for the vrginity of the girl . How they do this i don't know. Maybe they get a doctor's certificate before they allow her to work at the bar as a cherry girl.
It is not the question of money. I can easily afford this. I just want to know if anybody has experience doing this?
Please don't give me an accounting 101 class lecture.[/QUOTE]
Fellow mongers, can you help out Sammon. I'm a business and accounting type of guy and it looks like he doesn't need help on this front. My apologies.
I think he needs biology major and maybe even a psyc major to give him some feedback and advice :-)
Sammon,
It sounds like a good deal. Doctors do certify whether a dancer is a virgin or not. The money back guarantee you have been quoted is fabulous. You will not get that everywhere. The price sounds about right. I've heard of more than that being spent for a willing cherry girl. The only risk you seem to be taking is on the performance of the girl. Popping her cherry and having multiple sessions might cost you the P40,000 whether you enjoy the three days with a [former] virgin or not. But it sounds like money is no object here. Maybe time, convenience and the cherry are the all important factors. If so, I say go for it. Just be ready for anything, lol.
Sammon,
I haven't paid for a Cherry girl as you are considering.
For me, I would consider what kind of time I want to have on this vacation. You are looking at paying a much higher than going rate to have a hot girl with no experience.
If you like the idea of taking a girl who probably doesn't know what she's doing and "teaching her" and showing her the ropes while being very patient, you'll have a gorgeous companion for your time. There are hot babes available who are not virgins at a lower cost, and if you connect with the right girl will probably be better service.
My experience is that a virgin can make a great LTR if you treat her right. And eventually the sex can be awesome. But usually not the first few times.
CS
Relishing the experience of a virgin's fear, pain, tears, and the sight of plenty of blood points to a sick and sadistic mind. By preying on young virgins in the way Sammon seem's to enjoy has me thinking his hosts other lower depravities.
The Philippines can do without his ilk, and in my humble opinion he should be banned from this board.
Daring Mood
[QUOTE=Traveler1234]Fellow mongers, can you help out Sammon. I'm a business and accounting type of guy and it looks like he doesn't need help on this front. My apologies.
I think he needs biology major and maybe even a psyc major to give him some feedback and advice :-)[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sammon]1200 pesos is the regular barfine per day in AC.
40,000 pesos is for the girl for her virginity. It seems all of 40,000 belongs to her and none of it goes to the bar.
The deal is like this. I pay 40,000 pesos and 1200 pesos to the bar per day. The bar will hold the money for the girl. After we come back I have to to the bar and inform them of my satisfaction with the girl. And then only they will release the money to the girl. If in any case the girl does not allow me to pop her cherry the 40,000 pesos will be returned to me by the bar. The bar apparently vouches for the vrginity of the girl . How they do this i don't know. Maybe they get a doctor's certificate before they allow her to work at the bar as a cherry girl.
It is not the question of money. I can easily afford this. I just want to know if anybody has experience doing this?
Please don't give me an accounting 101 class lecture.[/QUOTE]
I'd say it just depends on how much a girls virginity means to you and whether or not you believe she's really a virgin. If that's what you want then go for it.
[QUOTE=Daring Mood]Relishing the experience of a virgin's fear, pain, tears, and the sight of plenty of blood points to a sick and sadistic mind. By preying on young virgins in the way Sammon seem's to enjoy has me thinking his hosts other lower depravities.
The Philippines can do without his ilk, and in my humble opinion he should be banned from this board.
Daring Mood[/QUOTE]
I don't see it that way at all. Some guys have never had that experience and being a womans first is kind of special. Like you've been "where no man has gone before" It's a nice feeling I guess. I think banning someone for that is a little extreme. He never said anything about relishing her fear, pain, and tears. She is a bargirl, so is selling her virginity to him. Somebody is going to get it, and if he wants to be her first and is willing to spend that kind of money, then I say let him.
Wulfe
I have been good friend's with the girl having barfined her a few times.
She wants me to be the first. It is not at all like I am forcing myself on her.
The deal I have mentioned in my previous report is told to me by the girl herself. I did not approach mamasan at all. Well ofcourse she knows she can get the money for her virginity. If not me somebody else she may or may not like.
She also mentioned that we should go on a short vacation. She wants to enjoy it as much as I do.
I have seen many cherry bar girls in AC ,more than I have seen anywhere else. I would not even think of taking a cherry girl anywhere unless I know her. How am I sure we are going to have a good time?
Also this is not going to be my first virgin girl. I have had my share like anybody else. The motivation here is not because she is a virgin as much . It is because we have a good time together except sex,which we can't do. Like going to movies, dance places etc.
I only like to remind you of previous alarming posts in the forum about girls offering their cherry which has proven to be a scam. This in case you have not read all threads the last few months. I think it was in the Angeles-thread.
[QUOTE=Daring Mood]Relishing the experience of a virgin's fear, pain, tears, and the sight of plenty of blood points to a sick and sadistic mind. By preying on young virgins in the way Sammon seem's to enjoy has me thinking his hosts other lower depravities.
The Philippines can do without his ilk, and in my humble opinion he should be banned from this board.
Daring Mood[/QUOTE]I have had about 8 or 10 girls on Filipina Heart offer me their Cherry for peso compensation and the stories most of them tell is that if they don't sell it some Filipino boyfriend will get it for free and they are just being practicle. Life is tough in the Phil and almost all are in need of tuition assistance or even basic necessities. I see nothing wrong with them doing it if they are 18 or more and i don't see anything wrong with a guy accepting and paying for it, as long as he treats her with respect and gentleness. So far I have not accepted only because I'm a cheap Charlie and think the asking price has been too high but I would have no problems ethically doing it if I liked the girl as a person and we both felt some feelings toward each other.
Nightrider1,
I would be very untrusting of a scam if a girl advertise to seel her cherry. I do believe 90% are scam. when a girl gives her cherry to her pinoy BF I do not think it is planned. I do know a girl that sold her cherry so I do know it does happen. I myself has never had a cherry girl.
If you've never had a cherry girl, I can tell you that you aren't missing much.
I've done two Japanese ladies and one Filipina. Since you are the first one, she will latch on to you something fierce. Blood in the beginning and tears at the end.
I would never pay for a cherry...but will oblige if some sweet thing decides she wants to lose it.
X
Alright felllas, I need a little help here.
I am in the process of making vacation plans and I need some advice on where to go. On my last two trips I went to Cambodia and Thailand and both were great but I am now in Taiwan and I think The philippines will be a lot easier to get to as I dont have much time for this trip (probably 4 or 5 days).
So here are my questions in order of importance:
1. What is the mongering scene like in PI? Is it similar to Bangkok with bargirls (barfines, etc.)? Or, is there a better alternative?
2. Relatedly, what is a good price for LT? I dont want to get ripped off so what should I expect to pay to take a lady home for the night?
3. Any advice on where I might be able to pick up some free-lancers? I am 26 and decent looking. I never have any troubles here so I wouldn't mind trying my luck in PI?
4. Is four days enough time to check out one of the Islands (if so, any recommendations?) or should I just spend my time in Manila.
I guess that is about it. Any advice or suggestions would be much appreciated.
Mongerman
MyOwnHome,
1. The scene in PI is a bit like Thailand and also different. There are Massage Parlors, Go-Go Clubs, Nightclubs, and regular places.
2. MPs cost P600-P2500 for the session, and tip for FS range from P1000-P2500. LT(Overnite) from Go-Go clubs will range from P1000-P2000 for the barfine and another P1500-P2500 for her services. Nightclubs have full strip shows, modelling shows, and will cost P8000-P13000 for barfine, which includes everything including the minimum 1 hour table charge .... Note that you will be dealing with the FM/GRM (Floor Manager/Guest Relations Manager) for this. Make sure that you agree to the fact that the girl will not leave earlier than 8AM, as some will try to leave at 4-5AM with many reasons.
3. Dont try to pick up freelancers. It is not safe, healthwise or financially as they might steal/drug you.
4. For 4-5 days, just enjoy Manila's food. If you get the right girl, go on a day trip to Tagaytay City (Volcano w/in volcano, Lake w/in lake) for its cool weather and scenics ... another day trip to Pagsanjan Falls & shoot the rapids. Bring an extra change of clothes, you will get soaked wet.
Book your hotels using [url]www.asiatravel.com[/url] I have used them and their rates are very competetive/good. The P2,000/$40 maximum hotels are of decent quality.
1. What is the mongering scene like in PI? Is it similar to Bangkok with bargirls (barfines, etc.)? Or, is there a better alternative?
2. Relatedly, what is a good price for LT? I dont want to get ripped off so what should I expect to pay to take a lady home for the night?
3. Any advice on where I might be able to pick up some free-lancers? I am 26 and decent looking. I never have any troubles here so I wouldn't mind trying my luck in PI?
4. Is four days enough time to check out one of the Islands (if so, any recommendations?) or should I just spend my time in Manila.
I guess that is about it. Any advice or suggestions would be much appreciated.
1.Mongering Scene is almost the same as elsewhere. Read the forum and you will get all the info needed.
2. Manila short time out of LA cafe is 500 to 1000 pesos. Long time is generally 2000 pesos. No barfine.
Other places like EDSA, Makati bars there are barfines. THe girls are expensive anywhere from 3000 to 5000 pesos.
3. Freelancers definitely from LA cafe and other bars around. Looks generally has nothing to do with it. Money talks and gets the girl.
4. Four days is not enough. You need atleast seven days to travel around. Don't forget to visit Angeles city.
I found a video cam site that when you are on it you can talk to the girls and you can buy credits an take them to pvt and they will do anything you ask them to do. It went off line the other day.Have other guys found this site and is it off line or is it my computer that cant get throug to it.
I dont know if i can give the name of the site so if you pm i will give you the name.
All the girls where working out of a house in Manila.They all where very friendly and didnt really push for you to go pvt to watch there show.
hope someone can help
I can't believe that you haven't gotten a "RTFF". But this is a "kinder, gentler" board. But, let's keep it this way. Everything that you have asked has been asked and answered ad nauseum (sp?). Please do some homework, read the forums.
My less than 2 cents.
1. Similar, but differences. Alterantive ? What do you mean ? Different place ? Different sex ? Different species ?
2. So who DOES what to get ripped off ? Prices ? RTFF.
3. So you're a stud. Why asked us old fat ugly fucks how to score ?
4. Four days is barely enough for Manila. Maybe a couple days in Angeles. Forget the "Islands". You could spend months and not see anything more than a tourist would.
Read brother.
FD
Read The Forum First OK FD,Polite form
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Tee It Up is no serial antagonist. This I firmly believe. The root of the problem is his tete-a-tete with the all-knowing, Junior.
I firmly believe JUNIOR to be the serial antagonist. He gets into fights worldwide. If this guy wrote a report from the Galapagos, he'd be sure to start a fight with the Galapagans. If he went to Mars, his field report would generate a fight with the Martians. And so on.
Furthermore, everytime I log on, I have to read about how Junior is lumping me in with some of his many enemies, and claiming that we're all one. What nonsense!
Junior should be given his own thread, like SA in Thailand or Nibu. I know I never read those threads, and it would be great never to have to read Junior again.
It would also end the Tee It Up controversy, who, I believe, is a poster who just wouldn't lie down to Junior.
Don
[QUOTE=Dashing Don]Tee It Up is no serial antagonist. This I firmly believe. The root of the problem is his tete-a-tete with the all-knowing, Junior.
I firmly believe JUNIOR to be the serial antagonist. He gets into fights worldwide. If this guy wrote a report from the Galapagos, he'd be sure to start a fight with the Galapagans. If he went to Mars, his field report would generate a fight with the Martians. And so on.
Furthermore, everytime I log on, I have to read about how Junior is lumping me in with some of his many enemies, and claiming that we're all one. What nonsense!
Junior should be given his own thread, like SA in Thailand or Nibu. I know I never read those threads, and it would be great never to have to read Junior again.
It would also end the Tee It Up controversy, who, I believe, is a poster who just wouldn't lie down to Junior.
Don[/QUOTE]Well said my friend. Have fun in the PI next month sorry we just missed each other.
Guinness
I thought I was civil enough. :)
[QUOTE=Firedick]I thought I was civil enough. :)[/QUOTE]
I think you where very civil, you even said please !!
If a person is really interested he would read all prior post, then ask for information and updates etc. That is what i did to start even now i go back to earlier post to check information.
[QUOTE=Guinness]Well said my friend. Have fun in the PI next month sorry we just missed each other.
Guinness[/QUOTE]
I'm not Junior and many others are not as well.
TIU only wishes to post very bland reports and then always responds to others post with insults as if he is the final say on everything. He has already admitted that in dealings with DM, it is not what she offered and I'm sure others will find the same. If other girls were allowed to place ads it would be worse. That was my point among others. TIU only wanted his opinion heard, so if someone had a different opinion from his, he responded in a derogatory manner. Did I respond in kind? Yes, Should I? Maybe not.
But TIU always resorts to this behavior to everyone when he feels someone has an opinion different from his own.
There is a thread for this, why post here?
Hopefully Jackson will move my and all other responses to the proper section.
FF
Hi to all,
I was searching the forum for info about Puerto Galero and found some posts, also did my search on the web about places to stay. I fly to Phils in 3 days and decide to take my gf to Puerto galera.Im not a newbie, but new to go to Mindoro. Any suggestion on hotels there? I go with my filipina gf (not from bar) and looking for middle priced place (up to 2500p a day). quiet, maybe seaview.
I checked info about Franklyn highland resort, Garden of Tabinay..they looked nice..anyone can give info on that??
After that I go Angels City for christmas and new year and will give an update about that.
Any PM s welcome.
Happy hunting to all.
[QUOTE=Traveler1234]Fellow mongers, can you help out Sammon. I'm a business and accounting type of guy and it looks like he doesn't need help on this front. My apologies.
I think he needs biology major and maybe even a psyc major to give him some feedback and advice :-)[/QUOTE]Guys,
Lest we forget, in the PI "Cherry Girl" can simply mean she has not been with anyone other than a Filipino!
Not a "virgin" as such.
I live here and have talked with many "Cherry Girls" and most say they are "Cherry Girl" because they have not been with a foreigner.
Besides, unless you are into the blood, fear, and pain, my money is better spent on someone with experience.
JMHO
Thanks Porty,
But I'm sure CL was just taking a friendly poke at me, as friends do.
But I am trying not to be so impatient, as I've been in the past.
Later,
FD
[QUOTE=Easyecm]Guys,
Lest we forget, in the PI "Cherry Girl" can simply mean she has not been with anyone other than a Filipino!
Not a "virgin" as such.
I live here and have talked with many "Cherry Girls" and most say they are "Cherry Girl" because they have not been with a foreigner.
Besides, unless you are into the blood, fear, and pain, my money is better spent on someone with experience.
JMHO[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. That is the first time I've heard the real definition of a "cherry girl".
At one time "Cherry Girl" meant that she wasn't in the business before, and hadn't been paid to play, not that she was virgin. In AC, you were a "Cherry Boy" if you hadn't paid for sex in AC before.
[QUOTE=Easyecm]Guys,
Lest we forget, in the PI "Cherry Girl" can simply mean she has not been with anyone other than a Filipino!
Not a "virgin" as such.
I live here and have talked with many "Cherry Girls" and most say they are "Cherry Girl" because they have not been with a foreigner.
Besides, unless you are into the blood, fear, and pain, my money is better spent on someone with experience.
JMHO[/QUOTE]
If you're staying in Sabang, the Atlantis is nice. It's couples friendly, not overun with BG's. OK, but small pool. The seaview suite is very nice, but a long climb up the steps. Great resturant and decent (for the Philippines) wine list.
La Laguna and Small L.L. have nice places too, but I've never stayed that far from the action.
Good luck,
FD
I'll second FD's assessment of the Atlantis; I stayed in the oceanfront 'suite' last year. However, it should be said that the room was about the size of a closet. So small that there wasn't even enough room to unpack.
As for two people in the bed; thats going to be uncomfortable. Thats why I did 'short time' only. The sound of the waves breaking on the beach was very nice though. And right downstairs, there's good food and all the bars etc.
Don
May I suggest a family-resort. It's called Coco Beach, and is located on the northeast coast of Mindoro. It is a quiet place, but not to far from puerto galera, and you can go there with a banca to party. I never did, as with family. They have both aircon and non-aircon huts in classic style. Good restaurant. OK pool. The beach is not too good, but you can use their services/bancas and go to better beaches in the area. You may call them in Malate on (63 2) 521 52 60, (63 2) 526 45 94 or (63 2) 523 03 19 and ask their rates. They will also pick you up at the airport. You can also rent diving gear and go with their experienced dive masters, which I did a few years back.
You find it here: [url]http://www.cocobeach.com/web/index.htm[/url]
[QUOTE=Blink157]Hi to all,
Any suggestion on hotels there? I go with my filipina gf (not from bar) and looking for middle priced place (up to 2500p a day). quiet, maybe seaview.
[/QUOTE]
On an earlier trip this year, I snorkelled and swam both in Puerta Galera and Davao's Pearl Farm. In both places, we were bitten constantly by transparent jellyfish. If the sun's rays hit the water at the right angle, it is possible to see the jellyfish; I would guess they are about three inches long and the color of glass. Impossible to avoid.
The Coral Gardens near Sabang was the worst as we snorkelled there for about an hour and spent the next several days scratching the bites. When we got back to the Atlantis, we asked the guys at the dive shop about this but they were non-committal. One said that it was a seasonal thing.
Its definitely something to keep in mind. Anyone else have this problem?
Don
No problem..........just wear a wetsuit!
Jellyfish do tend to be a seasonal problem. So Dashing Don, when are jellyfish in season?
x
When my wife and I were in Cebu we decided to go to Blue Water Resort one day so we could swim at the beach. We were in the water for maybe 15 to 20 minutes and started itching really bad. It really affected my legs and back while it affected my wifes back and arms. It was almost like a rash. We decided to swim in their pools instead. The next day we were fine. I never saw anything in the water. I even looked for Jellyfish but I didn't see anything. I've always been a little paranoid since I saw Jaws when I was 6 or 7. ha ha ha...
I was really disappointed as we didn't spend much time at the beach during my trip and the resort we stayed at the most in Bohol (Bohol Tropics) didn't have a beach for swimming.
Any ideas....
[QUOTE=Marconista]May I suggest a family-resort. It's called Coco Beach, and is located on the northeast coast of Mindoro. It is a quiet place, but not to far from puerto galera, and you can go there with a banca to party. I never did, as with family. They have both aircon and non-aircon huts in classic style. Good restaurant. OK pool. The beach is not too good, but you can use their services/bancas and go to better beaches in the area. You may call them in Malate on (63 2) 521 52 60, (63 2) 526 45 94 or (63 2) 523 03 19 and ask their rates. They will also pick you up at the airport. You can also rent diving gear and go with their experienced dive masters, which I did a few years back.
You find it here: [url]http://www.cocobeach.com/web/index.htm[/url][/QUOTE]You have a nice enviroment at Cocobeach,But Atlantis is in the middle of the action,But since you are with your GF,Cocobeach has its own beach compared to the relatively dirty beach at Sabang.
[QUOTE=Wulfe13]When my wife and I were in Cebu we decided to go to Blue Water Resort one day so we could swim at the beach. We were in the water for maybe 15 to 20 minutes and started itching really bad. It really affected my legs and back while it affected my wifes back and arms. It was almost like a rash. We decided to swim in their pools instead. The next day we were fine. I never saw anything in the water. I even looked for Jellyfish but I didn't see anything. I've always been a little paranoid since I saw Jaws when I was 6 or 7. ha ha ha...
I was really disappointed as we didn't spend much time at the beach during my trip and the resort we stayed at the most in Bohol (Bohol Tropics) didn't have a beach for swimming.
Any ideas....[/QUOTE]Well Plantation Bay has packages for the day and you swim in a Saltwater Pool with an Artificial Lagoon,Shangrila s beach has a fine mesh net to keep the jellyfish out.These are 2 expensive but jellyfish free options
Another suggestion to Mindoro's places to stay or visit is White beach.You can take a bangka from Sabang or Puerto galera.You can also get to White beach by jeepney or tricycle,upon arrival to Puerto.The accomodations in White beach are basic,but if you prefer solitude with your GF,it is quieter than sabang beach and it has a much better beach.It is also less seedy.If you stay in Sabang,I will suggest you take a look at the Big apple dive resort.It has quiet rooms in the back from the beach(and their own bar,which is open 24/7),surrounding a nice pool.Their food is ok too and their location is close to everything.For swimming,thought,I will advice you to go Big La Laguna.The water there is cleaner and clear.You can walk there from Sabang(about 10-15 minutes),or you can take a bangka.
Enjoy your trip,
Avioneto
But when I asked if anyone had any ideas, I was actually refering to ideas about what caused the terrible itching... we won't be able to afford going back any time soon. Sorry, I should have worded that better. Do you think it was Jellyfish or maybe polluted water??? We were ok late that night and the next day.
Wulfe
I had a similar experience when I was in Anilao one weekend with a friend scubadiving (Anilao is close to Batangas with a lot of simple dive-resorts with mainly Pinoys visiting from Manila during weekends ).
The afternoon we arrived we went out snorkling in swimwear only and experienced a lot of itching when we were swimming and afterwards. We were using masks and fins only, but I could not see any jellyfish while in the water.
The dive-master told us afterwards that there are a lot of loose threads from the jellyfish that causes this. The other days, when scubadiving, I tried to look for the jf, but never saw any, so they were not present.
If this is seasonal, I dont know. But ask locals next time, and use a wetsuit, as another contributor mentioned earlier.
Hmmmm... loose threads from the Jellyfish. That makes sense. We didn't know what the hell it was! We sure as hell weren't gonna stick around to find out either. Thanks,
Wulfe
Just did a search on jellyfish and it appears that the 'box jellyfish' is the most deadly in the world and they are very common in the PI. One website claimed that 20-40 people die every year in PI due to stings from this, but that the real figure is probably higher because a death certificate is not required for burial in PI, and thus other deaths which should properly be attributed to jellyfish stings, are not.
That annual 'Manhattan island swim' is looking better. Worse thing that can happen is swallowing a turd or coming in close contact to a 'floater', the NYPD's affectionate term for a body.
Don
I forgot to mention that the search also turned up articles on (a) a power outage in Manila in '99 due to millions of jellyfish clogging the intake pipes of a power station, and (b) over a hundred Phillipine anti-terrorist police getting sick in '03 during exercises which involved drills in the water--I think it was the Cebu area--during which they got badly stung by jellyfish.
Now I know why we don't get bombarded with ads for beach vacations in the Phillipines, unlike the Caribbean getaways. Its the jellyfish, kidz.
Don
[QUOTE=Dashing Don]On an earlier trip this year, I snorkelled and swam both in Puerta Galera and Davao's Pearl Farm. In both places, we were bitten constantly by transparent jellyfish. If the sun's rays hit the water at the right angle, it is possible to see the jellyfish; I would guess they are about three inches long and the color of glass. Impossible to avoid.
The Coral Gardens near Sabang was the worst as we snorkelled there for about an hour and spent the next several days scratching the bites. When we got back to the Atlantis, we asked the guys at the dive shop about this but they were non-committal. One said that it was a seasonal thing.
Its definitely something to keep in mind. Anyone else have this problem?
Don[/QUOTE]On the west coast of Canada , jellyfish are not a big problem but can sting if incountered.
A few tips #1 . Jellyfish tend to be more abundant around fresh water mouths,something to do with salinity.
#2 . Carry MSG meat tenderizer. It breaks down enzimes [sp]. Jellyfish stings are enzime based, as are most animal stings. Make a paste of MSG and rub on sting. Hope this helps. Happy diving from a old seal
The 'itchy sting" is most likely is seasonal hydroid bloom and not technically a jelly. Very common in PG. A lycra suit will proect you if you'd rather not hassle with a wet suit.
I hadn't heard about the box jellies. But they do follow a predictable season, at least they do elsewhere. I'll post anything further I find.
FD
Box Jelly season is Oct to May. A suit will protest you. Remember, lethality depends upon the number of nematocytes fired into you. Small stings are just painful. So any skin covering is better than nothing.
Found a lot of good info on this at: [url]http://www.mja.com.au/public/issues/dec2/fenner/fenner.html[/url]
Good luck,
FD
[QUOTE=Cebu Local]You have a nice enviroment at Cocobeach,But Atlantis is in the middle of the action,But since you are with your GF,Cocobeach has its own beach compared to the relatively dirty beach at Sabang.[/QUOTE]Yes but the beach at Cocobeach is tiny and not much fun for swimming. Also, to get to Cocobeach you take their outrigger boats which are really too small to be safe. I've heard that one of these outriggers that Cocobeach uses has capsized before.
[QUOTE=On The Go] "I am in the midst of establishing a million dollar start up
company" [QUOTE]
This is from the Colombia thread...don't laugh! :-)
As you can see, OTG is "in the midst of establishing a million dollar start up company". Please send your resumes to: Amway International, ATTN: Juniour.
Just having some fun. Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night.
Guinness
[QUOTE=Guinness][QUOTE=On The Go] "I am in the midst of establishing a million dollar start up
company" [QUOTE]
This is from the Colombia thread...don't laugh! :-)
As you can see, OTG is "in the midst of establishing a million dollar start up company". Please send your resumes to: Amway International, ATTN: Juniour.
Just having some fun. Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night.
Guinness[/QUOTE]
[I]Homo Boy[/I] aka Dashing don/Tee It up/Guinness/Teed Off/Face Pisser/Jakers/ tbc/ etc
Is there any reason why you have had to put my name, once again, in your pathetic post? Is this for some dramatic effect?? Dude, shit that happens in Colombia should stay in the Colombia thread. We don’t need you to spread this useless information.
What happened are you applying for the position of press spokeman?
If the man wants to start up a million, 500 million or Billion dollar start up how would this effect you?
Can someone tell me is this how you now get to senior status with posting pure and utter nonsense all over the forum, because last week you were only a regular member, with not one proper post to your name.
After several visits to Sabang, I would say don't go there for general swimming. Sabang beach has several channels of raw sewerage flowing from Sabang town into the small bay. A walk along the beach will reveal all. As for Cocobeach, I found the slimy seaweed everywhere very unattractive. Cocobeach is good for a chill out (BYO), no swimming break. Sabang is a rubbish town but can be fun for sex and diving. Maybe I am the worrying type, but I also find those bankas used for travel between Sabang and Batagas Port rather fragile and unsafe, especially when the sea is rough. If they capsize, then one is in real trouble as I understand the current in the strait is very fast.
[QUOTE=Juniour]
Can someone tell me is this how you now get to senior status with posting pure and utter nonsense all over the forum, because last week you were only a regular member, with not one proper post to your name.[/QUOTE]
How long should one be a member before reaching the "elite" senior status? A question Jackson may want to think about. Thanks for bringing it up, you are brilliant.
BTW: I'll be in Manila in late January through early February. If anyone is interested in meeting for a beer just PM me.
Guinness
[QUOTE=Guinness]
BTW: I'll be in Manila in late January through early February. If anyone is interested in meeting for a beer just PM me.
Guinness[/QUOTE]I may be there about the same time. I'll send you a pm with details. I'm just wrapping up this million dollar startup deal first. I was just given exclusive rights to sell Amway in the Galapagos Islands. :D
Newbie poster here. I've been mongering and traveling to Makati since the early 90's. I will finally have a chance to visit Boracay (either Friday's or The Regency- not finalized yet) and am taking two young ladies that visit me regularly in my Makati hotel.
My dumb question for the board is: do locals need some kind of picture ID to fly from Manila to Boracay? I know they don't have passports and probably not driver's licenses either- is there anything else that would suffice if something is indeed needed?
Thanks,
Dood53
I don't use them often, but every now and then, "C" or "V" pills come in handy. I usually buy over the counter in Bangkok, but have been on the road for over a month... Can they be bought in Phil pharmacies? I'm currently in Manila (Edsa Shangri-La).
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Yi Ren]I don't use them often, but every now and then, "C" or "V" pills come in handy. I usually buy over the counter in Bangkok, but have been on the road for over a month... Can they be bought in Phil pharmacies? I'm currently in Manila (Edsa Shangri-La).
Thanks![/QUOTE]
You can buy them over the counter in Manila, but it's not strictly legal so you may have to shop around a bit for a cooperative pharmacist. Do not buy from the guys on the street as I hear most of the crap they sell is counterfeit. If you cannot find someone at Mercury Drug, Rose Pharmacy or the like, go to any Dr. and pay him (or her) about 2 bucks and they'll give you a prescription. Then you can buy them at any pharmacy. The price is about PhP450 per pill.
:D
GE
[QUOTE=GoodEnough]You can buy them over the counter in Manila, but it's not strictly legal so you may have to shop around a bit for a cooperative pharmacist. Do not buy from the guys on the street as I hear most of the crap they sell is counterfeit. If you cannot find someone at Mercury Drug, Rose Pharmacy or the like, go to any Dr. and pay him (or her) about 2 bucks and they'll give you a prescription. Then you can buy them at any pharmacy. The price is about PhP450 per pill.
[/QUOTE]
Pretty much as I suspected -- thanks for the info, GE!
[QUOTE=Dood53]Newbie poster here. I've been mongering and traveling to Makati since the early 90's. I will finally have a chance to visit Boracay (either Friday's or The Regency- not finalized yet) and am taking two young ladies that visit me regularly in my Makati hotel.
My dumb question for the board is: do locals need some kind of picture ID to fly from Manila to Boracay? I know they don't have passports and probably not driver's licenses either- is there anything else that would suffice if something is indeed needed?
Thanks,
Dood53[/QUOTE]
The answer is: YES. Locals need a picture ID to fly. This will be thoroughly checked at the airport, to make sure that the name of the ticket is the same as the person flying. The girls need either school picture ID, or get them or ask their barangay (local) officials how to get a picture ID (either for tax purposes, SSS ID, employment ID, etc).
I will be in Naga for a couple of days. Desperate for a contact for some action in hotel at night! Please PM me. I can reciprocate in Manila or in China.
[QUOTE=genuis8]The answer is: YES. Locals need a picture ID to fly. This will be thoroughly checked at the airport, to make sure that the name of the ticket is the same as the person flying. The girls need either school picture ID, or get them or ask their barangay (local) officials how to get a picture ID (either for tax purposes, SSS ID, employment ID, etc).[/QUOTE]Many thanks, Genius8- much appreciated.
Dood53
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I was asked by a co-worker who is traveling to the Philippines and Thailand with 5 friends next month a good question I do not have the answer for. One in the group has a bench warrant issued for him for a gross misdemeanor driving after cancellation here in the United States. He also has a felony drug conviction on his record that he served time for. His friends are not worried about him getting to Thailand, but when he clears US Customs on reentry into the United States, will he be arrested on this gross misdemeanor traffic warrant?
[quote=on the go]i was asked by a co-worker who is traveling to the philippines and thailand with 5 friends next month a good question i do not have the answer for. one in the group has a bench warrant issued for him for a gross misdemeanor driving after cancellation here in the united states. he also has a felony drug conviction on his record that he served time for. his friends are not worried about him getting to thailand, but when he clears us customs on reentry into the united states, will he be arrested on this gross misdemeanor traffic warrant?[/quote]
well i am not sure ! but this happened to a friend of mine ! he was cuaght speeding in texas, returned to australia. went back to the usa and was refused entry at customs cos of the unpaid speeding fine and was forced to return to australia. so the computers in customs are linked to the fbi and police in texas!
my advice for him is not to take chance as he might find himslef arrested at the airport and no days with all the tight sercurity on terrists its all linked !! he might not even get on board locally as their copmuters might show this up to !!
Does anyone have any info on the Castle Peak Hotel in Cebu? It seems to have really good room rates. Is it close enough to all the action and worth booking? I'll be in the Philippines in March and I'm looking for an inexpensive but clean Hotel in Cebu. Castle Peak is at:
[url]http://castlepeakhotel.net/index.htm[/url]
Thanks for any info you can provide.
Yella Man
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I'm taking my first trip to the Philippines after 14 times to Thailand, and I would like to get some suggestions of where I should head when I reach Manilla,
I'm looking for some where I can find pussy in discos instead of bar fines. A place close to a beach would be preferable.
Also, whats the deal with non ***** action?
Thanks
First of all, bit surprised to see the post by Danielson who has 14 visits to Thailand but has contributed only 5 of his own reports at ISG. With that kind of contribution, as all I can say is.....go read the old posts.
Not sure if anyone is interested in this. Medical tourism?
[url]http://news.inq7.net/breaking/index.php?index=1&story_id=62641[/url]
[QUOTE=X Man]First of all, bit surprised to see the post by Danielson who has 14 visits to Thailand but has contributed only 5 of his own reports at ISG. With that kind of contribution, as all I can say is.....go read the old posts.
Not sure if anyone is interested in this. Medical tourism?
[url]http://news.inq7.net/breaking/index.php?index=1&story_id=62641[/url][/QUOTE]It looks like the Philippines want to copy some of the success that Thailand had with medical tourism in the last few years. There they offer it kind of as a vacation. You come in for an operation in a first class hospital and after you're fit again its time to enjoy the beach.
Besides the advantages for the tourists it might also have a positive effect on the flow of medical personnel out of the Philippines. If the result would be that wages can be increased less doctors and nurses would be willing to go abroad.
X Man is absolutely right! Fourteen trips and only 5 reports. WoW! Don't skimp on the reports guys. Any piece of info you might have may be valuable to us other members. Perform your duties and post them damn reports!
Yella Man
[QUOTE=Danielson]I'm taking my first trip to the Philippines after 14 times to Thailand, and I would like to get some suggestions of where I should head when I reach Manilla,
I'm looking for some where I can find pussy in discos instead of bar fines. A place close to a beach would be preferable.
Also, whats the deal with non ***** action?
Thanks[/QUOTE]If you want a beach you should get out of manila asap and head for some nice places like cebu, boracay, palawan or bohol. And if you're looking for pussy without a pay you'll find those even in Manila. The Makati area has some nice clubs which don't have a high number of working girls but in the end you still pay. If not directly then by having to please them, buy them drinks, dinner, movies ;-)
Here is my story. I have been on web site that is a video site that you can talk to the girls and pay a fee to see them naked. For some reason I cant get to the site and I'm trying to get there email so I can talk to them. If someone could pm I will give the the site name . ISG does not allow me to give the site name out. I hope that someone can help. This site has all Philippno girls. An they are really hot. I really enjoy talking to them
So please help.
Thanking you in advance.
I suspect there are a few different places that you describe. One that I looked at was Asian babes or something like that.
I can't imagine paying for such a service though. I'd rather save my money, travel, and get a live show.
X
[QUOTE=Yella Man] Fourteen trips and only 5 reports. [/QUOTE]
YM
If you look at the "reports", there aren't any.
Just always the same type of question, where to find, where to go etc blabla.
Cheers!
Most countries require you to clear customs/immigration before you depart overseas. they stamp your passport to determine how many days you have been away and they pull up your crim history at the same time. good luck!
[QUOTE=On The Go]I was asked by a co-worker who is traveling to the Philippines and Thailand with 5 friends next month a good question I do not have the answer for. One in the group has a bench warrant issued for him for a gross misdemeanor driving after cancellation here in the United States. He also has a felony drug conviction on his record that he served time for. His friends are not worried about him getting to Thailand, but when he clears US Customs on reentry into the United States, will he be arrested on this gross misdemeanor traffic warrant?[/QUOTE]
Hi guys,
I am having my first trip to manila, 27 to 30 January,
Please I need your advice where to found beautiful girls?
Iamsure should have every where haha.
Please let me know where re the best place to hang out, I will; sty in makatin in a smal hotel called El Cielito Hotel anyone tried it?
Thanks for your help and information.
I'm making my first trip to Cebu on March 28 thru the 31st. If any one wants to hook up and hang out, have a drink or two and chase ladies, hit me with a PM. I head to Angeles City (my stomping grounds) on April 1st. Same thing applies there.
Yella Man
Glad to see that Manny has made his way back to the top of his profession. I remember seeing him fight a few years ago when he came out of no where to clean a few of the top contenders clocks.
This guy is a fantastic boxer
[url]http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=2301214[/url]
[QUOTE=Frequent Flier]Glad to see that Manny has made his way back to the top of his profession. I remember seeing him fight a few years ago when he came out of no where to clean a few of the top contenders clocks.
This guy is a fantastic boxer
[url]http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=2301214[/url][/QUOTE]I saw a replay of their first fight it ended in a draw but I thought Manny clearly won that fight.
[url]http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/ceb/2006/01/29/news/lawyer.says.undercover.cops.liable.for.prostitution.html[/url]
I guess the Filipino police figure that this is a crime for some other reason than that it is taking advantage of women.
Not my take on the situation, but those who make these laws figure that every girl who has sex for money is being abused in some way.
The Filipino police do a sting and actually take the girl back to a room and while having sex with the girl someone breaks in the room and takes pictures. The police actually attached the pictures to the official report.
The fact that this law can be applied to us all is disturbing as well. If they were to start to apply this law I believe that tourism would drop to little more than a trickle.
FF
The assumption typically made here when raids such as this occur, is that the bar owner did not pay the police or other law enforcement officials the expected amount, or did not pay at all. Usually, when such clubs get raided here, they're shut down for a week or so, and then reopen as if nothing untoward had occurred. Again, the assumption is generally made that the payoff situation got straightened out.
It's very difficult (try impossible) for me to believe that there's any moral concern, on the part of the authorities, about prostitution. Everything in this country always comes down to money, payoffs, and simple graft. The bars on Burgos St, the EDSA complex, and other, similar areas of Manila are major tourist attractions. When is the last time that anyone heard of these places being shuttered due to a police action? In fact, there are cops all over Burgos all of the time and I always assumed they were present to ensure that the tourists didn't get in trouble.
Remember, there are laws on the books here about virtually everything. They are enforced sporadically and only when the authorities want or need a rationale to do something. Hell, if even half of the traffic laws in Davao were enforced consistently, this might even become a safe place in which to drive. I imagine that the anti-prostitution laws here exist largely to placate the Catholic church, which weilds enormous power and influence in this country.
The fact is, prostitution is a booming (pun intended) business, and many of the glitzier strip bars are own by or connected to powerful political families. This is not a sector which is going out of business any time soon.
:D
GE
[QUOTE=GoodEnough]The assumption typically made here when raids such as this occur, is that the bar owner did not pay the police or other law enforcement officials the expected amount, or did not pay at all. Usually, when such clubs get raided here, they're shut down for a week or so, and then reopen as if nothing untoward had occurred. Again, the assumption is generally made that the payoff situation got straightened out.
It's very difficult (try impossible) for me to believe that there's any moral concern, on the part of the authorities, about prostitution. Everything in this country always comes down to money, payoffs, and simple graft. The bars on Burgos St, the EDSA complex, and other, similar areas of Manila are major tourist attractions. When is the last time that anyone heard of these places being shuttered due to a police action? In fact, there are cops all over Burgos all of the time and I always assumed they were present to ensure that the tourists didn't get in trouble.
Remember, there are laws on the books here about virtually everything. They are enforced sporadically and only when the authorities want or need a rationale to do something. Hell, if even half of the traffic laws in Davao were enforced consistently, this might even become a safe place in which to drive. I imagine that the anti-prostitution laws here exist largely to placate the Catholic church, which weilds enormous power and influence in this country.
The fact is, prostitution is a booming (pun intended) business, and many of the glitzier strip bars are own by or connected to powerful political families. This is not a sector which is going out of business any time soon.
:D
GE[/QUOTE]That is so true,I brought Crazier to Air Force 1 and He and I were talking to one of the people in senior management.It has NEVER been raided,He even shared a story where a police raiding party arrived only to discover 2 Congressmen,The Mayor and a Police General being serviced.Needless to say the Cops were slapped in the face publicly by the General,Disarmed,Suspended and Transferred To Rebel Fighting duty in Mindanao the following week.There are "untouchable places" like PDP in Makati,Pesgasus in QC etc.Has Edsa ever been closed????All is not always as it appeares to be on the surface
Cebu Local gives us a story that is a bit far fetched. As much as I appreciate his numerous informative contributions, I find it hard to believe the police would be so out of touch as to raid a high class parlor that was servicing the elite of the city....hmmmm. urban myth?
No so long ago, I posted (Cebu thread) a news article from a newspaper about the raid at a well-known Cebu establishment. Is it still closed?
Just curious. X Man
[QUOTE=X Man]Cebu Local gives us a story that is a bit far fetched. As much as I appreciate his numerous informative contributions, I find it hard to believe the police would be so out of touch as to raid a high class parlor that was servicing the elite of the city....hmmmm. urban myth?
No so long ago, I posted (Cebu thread) a news article from a newspaper about the raid at a well-known Cebu establishment. Is it still closed?
Just curious. X Man[/QUOTE]Actually I do a lot of business with Air Force 1 as well as Most of the Hotel Concierges send their high end clients there,Since We Travel agents get a generous commision paid promptly and the confidence of knowing our tour groups will never suffer the embarassment of a police raid.You should see the tour buses parked there,sometimes 3-4 of them at one time.The next time you are in Manila,Ask around if you know of Air force 1 ever being raided.You may be surprised by the answers you get from the locals,Ask the Hotel Concierges especially those of the 5 star hotels and out of curiosity Have you visited AF 1???Drop me a PM the next time you are in Manila and I would be more then happy to bring you there as their guest totally free and fully hosted by AF 1 like I did for Crazier 2 weeks ago,
Being in the travel business He needed a "safe"place to bring his tour groups to also.It is more then a MP,The KTV,Club and MP operations employ over 800 women per shift at 2 shifts daily with over 400 support staff.During the last ATF 2 weeks ago in the Philippines,The Laotian and Burmese Tourism Ministers and their support staff were here accompanied by their Philippine hosts.Would the Philippines dare risk an International incident by raiding and arresting them???I dont think so.When Crazier was with me,inspecting the place,The following were inhouse.Several diplomatic staff,a party from the office of the First gentleman,the city Administrator of Paranaque where AF 1 is located,a navy commodore,and at least 3 congressmen and 2 mayors.I think it would have been a career ending move for any cops raiding.You dont screw around with the people of the First gentleman Mr Arroyo.His wife only happens to be THE PRESIDENT OF THE PHILIPPINES.Anyway just my viewpoint and You never know what the future holds,But it hasnt been raided in the last SEVEN years.So I will continue to bring my Chinese,Japanese and Korean tour groups there in forseeable future.Just my personal experiences with them
[QUOTE=Cebu Local]Actually I do a lot of business with Air Force 1 as well as Most of the Hotel Concierges send their high end clients there,Since We Travel agents get a generous commision paid promptly and the confidence of knowing our tour groups will never suffer the embarassment of a police raid.You should see the tour buses parked there,sometimes 3-4 of them at one time.The next time you are in Manila,Ask around if you know of Air force 1 ever being raided.You may be surprised by the answers you get from the locals,Ask the Hotel Concierges especially those of the 5 star hotels and out of curiosity Have you visited AF 1???Drop me a PM the next time you are in Manila and I would be more then happy to bring you there as their guest totally free and fully hosted by AF 1 like I did for Crazier 2 weeks ago,
Being in the travel business He needed a "safe"place to bring his tour groups to also.It is more then a MP,The KTV,Club and MP operations employ over 800 women per shift at 2 shifts daily with over 400 support staff.During the last ATF 2 weeks ago in the Philippines,The Laotian and Burmese Tourism Ministers and their support staff were here accompanied by their Philippine hosts.Would the Philippines dare risk an International incident by raiding and arresting them???I dont think so.When Crazier was with me,inspecting the place,The following were inhouse.Several diplomatic staff,a party from the office of the First gentleman,the city Administrator of Paranaque where AF 1 is located,a navy commodore,and at least 3 congressmen and 2 mayors.I think it would have been a career ending move for any cops raiding.You dont screw around with the people of the First gentleman Mr Arroyo.His wife only happens to be THE PRESIDENT OF THE PHILIPPINES.Anyway just my viewpoint and You never know what the future holds,But it hasnt been raided in the last SEVEN years.So I will continue to bring my Chinese,Japanese and Korean tour groups there in forseeable future.Just my personal experiences with them[/QUOTE]
Hi CL,
I took the post from X-man as saying that he only thought the story about being raided once and the police being scolded or whatever for being so stupid as to raid the place where all their politicians hang out as an urban myth. I certainly didn't think that he was saying that you were telling stories. I think he was saying that the story told to you was a urban myth told for the effect of safety to patrons or for entertainment, as the police would certainly not raid this place as even as ridiculous as the police are sometimes in Manila, they would never make that big a mistake.
Just my two cents on how I read his post.
FF
What is it like for the more mature woman in AC ?
any pics pls.
Philippines HIV cases double over three years Tue Jan 31, 9:49 PM ET
MANILA (AFP) - An AIDS crisis threatens the Philippines as the number of people who are HIV carriers has doubled in just over three years, the health department warned.
A health department study projected the number of Human Im***odeficiency Virus (HIV) carriers to have risen to 11,168, from about 6,000 in 2002, Health Secretary Francisco Duque told reporters.
The widespread practice of unprotected sex makes AIDS a serious threat in the Southeast Asian country, he added.
Many people who are likely living with the virus are mixing with the general population and are unaware that they are infected, Duque said.
Men who have sex with other men, female sex workers, their male clients, and injecting drug users are the groups most at risk, Duque said.
However, these groups account for only 2,942 of the total HIV carriers estimated in the Philippines, said health department epidemiologist Enrique Tayag.
"A significant change in this estimation is that 8,000 of these HIV positives are now found in the general population. This means that current interventions miss a hidden population that would benefit and thus avert a major catastrophe," Duque said.
In the health department survey, one percent of injecting drug users in Cebu, the country's number-two city, are HIV-positive, Duque said.
"For the first time after nearly a decade of surveillance, another IDU (injecting drug user) has tested positive. This means that the transmission among IDUs has begun and, if left unchecked, will cause the repetition of an epidemic similar to that of Thailand," Duque warned.
World Health Organization country representative John Marc Olive said the discovery of HIV-positive injecting drug users should serve as a "red flag" for the Philippines taking into consideration Thailand's experience when those infected by the virus transmitted HIV by sharing needles.
Duque said many injecting drug users had multiple sex partners, did not practice safe sex, and shared needles.
Duque said the government had set aside 20 million pesos (383,000 dollars) to stockpile anti-retroviral drugs for HIV/AIDS sufferers. The virus destroys the human body's im***e system.
"It's a dilemma for the (health department) to have to manage opposition from the (Roman) Catholic Church because it views condoms also as a family planning method and not just a tool against HIV/AIDS," Duque said.
He urged the church to allow the government to promote condom use among the faithful in this mainly Catholic country.
[QUOTE=Cebu Local].Has Edsa ever been closed????All is not always as it appeares to be on the surface[/QUOTE]
Actually it has been raided on several occassions with business "suspended" while the under-age girls were removed. Then it was back to business as usualy within the hour.
A curious post. Are you a mature woman considering a trip to AC ? Slightly more specific questions would probably yeild better results.
FD
I have been to the PI many times but never in August. I am planning a trip there this August. Is there much rain in August?
Thank you.
[QUOTE=Billpsu]I have been to the PI many times but never in August. I am planning a trip there this August. Is there much rain in August?
Thank you.[/QUOTE]
You will find that august is nostly dry ! but still quite hot !
As its the end of summer.
So you dont have to worry. But as you kbow anywhere has some rain , but august would be a good time to go.
[QUOTE=Porty]You will find that august is nostly dry ! but still quite hot !
As its the end of summer.
So you dont have to worry. But as you kbow anywhere has some rain , but august would be a good time to go.[/QUOTE]
to porty
I was at MANILA and CEBU in dec last year , It rain almost every day that i was there and should be dry season in dec . but the weather is cool in the
evening .
fast eddie 48
December is the PEAK of the rainy season in Cebu... August is dry but still hot... I was there from Sept. 6 to Oct. 6 and it rained almost everyday but for only a short while.
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]to porty
I was at MANILA and CEBU in dec last year , It rain almost every day that i was there and should be dry season in dec . but the weather is cool in the
evening .
fast eddie 48[/QUOTE]
Eddie decmber in the northern hemisphere is winter time !! in manila and most of the philippines the wetest months are decmeber and january !! Thats why the weather is cool ! does not start to heat up until late febuary march then summer is very hot in June and July !
A site deveoted to chasing tail and here we are talking about the weather.
BTW, May is the hottest month.
[url]http://www.pagasa.dost.gov.ph/cab/climate.htm[/url]
X
[QUOTE=Porty]Eddie decmber in the northern hemisphere is winter time !! in manila and most of the philippines the wetest months are decmeber and january !! Thats why the weather is cool ! does not start to heat up until late febuary march then summer is very hot in June and July ![/QUOTE]
Porty, I'm not sure what you are smoking but have you ever been to the P.I.? The wettest months are around August, not December dumbass. December and January are two of the dry months. Same goes to you Wulfe13, get a clue dude. Wait a minute, aren't you the same dude who married your wife after one day? Never mind. :)
You are all right,The Philippines has 4 distinct Climatic zones,But the the Wet and dry seasons vary depending on the region,For example Quezon has no wet or dry season but has rains evenly all year round,Mindanao and Palawan have no typhoons etc..So the wet or dry season will depend on what part of the PI you are in.December and January are dry seasons for Manila,AC etc but wet seasons for Bohol,Cebu etc.Hope this clarifies things
To quote the Climatic zones Manila and AC are under climatic zone 1 which is defined as Long dry season from November to May and intense rainy season from June to October.Most Mongers experience this weather.Cebu where I stay and where Porty regularly visits is under Climatic Zone 2 which is defined as Short dry season from March to May and a rainy season from June to Febraury.Climatic zone 4 which covers Davao where GE lives has no distinct wet or dry season.Case closed
[QUOTE=Cebu Local]To quote the Climatic zones Manila and AC are under climatic zone 1 which is defined as Long dry season from November to May and intense rainy season from June to October.Most Mongers experience this weather.Cebu where I stay and where Porty regularly visits is under Climatic Zone 2 which is defined as Short dry season from March to May and a rainy season from June to Febraury.Climatic zone 4 which covers Davao where GE lives has no distinct wet or dry season.Case closed[/QUOTE]
Salamat Cebu Local . i am sure that if any memeber would know about the weather you would be the one to ask as you are every where in the Philippines all year round. I was only going on my experiences on the months that i have visited over the 10 times that i have been there.
I enjoyed your report on Davao. Just a question as your in the travel industry.
From cebu where would a great place to go , for 3 days trip ! Must be romantic. Say for honeymoon ! taking into account of short travel time which everything is short by air ? Salamat CL
[QUOTE=Porty]Salamat Cebu Local . i am sure that if any memeber would know about the weather you would be the one to ask as you are every where in the Philippines all year round. I was only going on my experiences on the months that i have visited over the 10 times that i have been there.
I enjoyed your report on Davao. Just a question as your in the travel industry.
From cebu where would a great place to go , for 3 days trip ! Must be romantic. Say for honeymoon ! taking into account of short travel time which everything is short by air ? Salamat CL[/QUOTE]Bohol,A 2 hour ferry trip away,Try Panglao Nature Report and Bohol Beach Club on Panglao Island.Dumaguete again a 3 hour ferry trip away from Cebu,Antulan Beach resort and Atlantis Dive Resort,The Rizal Boulevard is kinda romantic at night.Boracay a 1 hour Seaair trip away,Seawind,Nami Private Villas,Waling Waling are romantic.Camiguin an island a 30 minute Seaair trip away,Rustic peaceful quiet island where the cops dont even carry guns.Hope this helps
[Camiguin an island a 30 minute Seaair trip away,Rustic peaceful quiet island where the cops dont even carry guns.Hope this helps[/QUOTE]
As I've done bohol and i think boracay has to many people ! I think this might be great.
Can u give me some information about a special hotel, With honeymoon suite !
Yes Thats correct , the time has come after 2 years ! Dont worry cos Niko is living next door to me now and he will make sure everything is good while i am in australia. I have taken your advice many times Salamat.
My wife and I went on our honeymoon in Bohol. It is very nice there. Nice beaches and you can go on a tour of the island. I really enjoy the the little monkeys, the chocolate hills, and the riverboat cruise I went on. If you go on your honeymoon there you will love it.
Bigchez
[QUOTE=Porty][Camiguin an island a 30 minute Seaair trip away,Rustic peaceful quiet island where the cops dont even carry guns.Hope this helps[/QUOTE]
As I've done bohol and i think boracay has to many people ! I think this might be great.
Can u give me some information about a special hotel, With honeymoon suite !
Yes Thats correct , the time has come after 2 years ! Dont worry cos Niko is living next door to me now and he will make sure everything is good while i am in australia. I have taken your advice many times Salamat.[/QUOTE]
Porty,I will check it out during Visayas Travel Mart Next week and let you know.Regards to Nico
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Porty,I will check it out during Visayas Travel Mart Next week and let you know.Regards to Nico[/QUOTE]
Salamat CL, just finished talking to Niko. Its hard to give him your best as i dont know your real name ! Pm if you want.
He is well and his wife is home from the USA until till the 23rd of febuary.
I am god father to his son which turns 1 this month, also my appartment is next door to his. So I can say that we are so close! I am very lucky to have such a friend as niko dont you think !
Would love to ctach up with you when i am there maybe we have a drink with Niko one night ! I am there from the 17th of march to the 17th of april !
Salamat once again , cos i really want to suprise my wife with a simple but very sweet honeymoon !
[QUOTE=Porty][
Porty,I will check it out during Visayas Travel Mart Next week and let you know.Regards to Nico[/QUOTE]
Salamat CL, just finished talking to Niko. Its hard to give him your best as i dont know your real name ! Pm if you want.
He is well and his wife is home from the USA until till the 23rd of febuary.
I am god father to his son which turns 1 this month, also my appartment is next door to his. So I can say that we are so close! I am very lucky to have such a friend as niko dont you think !
Would love to ctach up with you when i am there maybe we have a drink with Niko one night ! I am there from the 17th of march to the 17th of april !
Salamat once again , cos i really want to suprise my wife with a simple but very sweet honeymoon ![/QUOTE]
You can go to the Visayas Travel Mart at SM from Friday the 17th to Sunday the 19th.All the different resorts including Camiguin will have booths there and Lets get together for a drink when you get in .Best Regards
You can go to the Visayas Travel Mart at SM from Friday the 17th to Sunday the 19th.All the different resorts including Camiguin will have booths there and Lets get together for a drink when you get in .Best Regards[/QUOTE]
I hope that travel fair is on in march !!
as the 17th is friday in febuary and the same in March !
So the Fair is on the 17th of MARCH to the 20th of MARCH is that correct !
Will pm you my cell number when i get there in cebu ! Salamat CL
My head hurts trying to determine who's talking to whom here. :)
I may be in country around the same time.
Later.
FD
Does anyone know of any sites that have Filipinas in bondage?
I'm looking at today's Cebu Sun Star- VisMin travel fair is Feb 17 to 19.
thanks all- keep on 'rhymes with' truckin.
Don
I may have asked this question before and I am sure many have as well. But here goes (again?).
I cannont believe the incredibly low rates on women in the PI are. Really, only 20-30USD?
Is that fee paid to the bar and you negociate with the lady for her fee or is that rate lock, stock and barrel?
Man I can't wait to save enough money I make on LOJ to go to the PI this summer. Mexicanas are great but this kid needs something exotic, or at least a change of pace.
Forgive my ignorance but any clarification would be greatly appreciated.
The Filthy (stranded in North America) One
[QUOTE=Mahalit]Does anyone know of any sites that have Filipinas in bondage?[/QUOTE]
Do a search on the web...
[QUOTE=Mugroso]I may have asked this question before and I am sure many have as well. But here goes (again?).
I cannont believe the incredibly low rates on women in the PI are. Really, only 20-30USD?
Is that fee paid to the bar and you negociate with the lady for her fee or is that rate lock, stock and barrel?[/QUOTE]
It depends. In Angeles City you pay the bar and they pay the girl her part. Your cost is 1000p to 1300p depending on the bar. That's for all night. Most guys tip from say 200 to 500p but it is not required.
In Manila the Ermita area [LA Cafe, G-Point etc] there is no barfine. You make the deal with the girl. Normally from 1000p to 2000p You rarely need to pay more than 1500p
On Burgess St and EDSA in Manila you pay the bar and then pay the girl. Burgess is most expensive and then EDSA. It can be as high as 5000p I think. I don't really monger in these areas.
All of the above are for all nighters. I don't do short-time so am not sure of short-time pricing.
While nothing beats the price/quality ratio at LA Cafe, provided that you're patient and willing to wait until the one you love comes along, EDSA has a good cost/benefit ratio as well. The bar fine is PhP1000, but the girls are never more than PhP1,500 for as long as you like. Also, if you attach a monetary value to your time, the ratio increases, since there's a higher percentage of good looking women in EDSA than in LA Cafe, and therefore you need to spend less time looking. Burgos, on the other hand, is ridiculous and does not represent much value for money.
It is somewhat amazing so me though that so many first timers stick to the well-trodden path to Manila when there are so many more attractive, and less expensive options available to anyone with even a smidgen of adventurous spirit. To each his own I suppose.
:D
GE
I'm heading to Angeles for my 2nd trip, but I still haven't figured it all out yet :)
After you take the first girl from a bar and have a great time, the next time you go in there she sticks to you like glue.
How do I take the second girl from the same bar and not have her feel bad or not give as good a performance?
[QUOTE=MIA Man]I'm heading to Angeles for my 2nd trip, but I still haven't figured it all out yet :)
After you take the first girl from a bar and have a great time, the next time you go in there she sticks to you like glue.
How do I take the second girl from the same bar and not have her feel bad or not give as good a performance?[/QUOTE]
Don't let it worry you. Most times when girl 1 pouts it's a sales pitch. They want another 500p. Just tell her up front you are a butterfly and want to have other girls. Remind her of this if she pouts.
To get good performance from girl 2 try telling her that girl 1 was great and ask if she is as good. It can tend to bring out her competitive spirit.
CAVEAT. Do not lie to the girls to make them feel like you have long-term plans for them. If you lead them on they can be very vengeful.
Hey,
I'm new to this, so I don't know exactly what to do. My friend told me about this site, but that was it. He's not really into Filipinas, but I am. What do you guys think about the women? Can anyone lead me in the right direction?
How do they look?
How do I get into contact with them?
What should I be aware of?
Is it strictly business? They don't reveal anything about their personal lives, do they?
CRD176
[QUOTE=Crd176]Hey,
I'm new to this, so I don't know exactly what to do. My friend told me about this site, but that was it. He's not really into Filipinas, but I am. What do you guys think about the women? Can anyone lead me in the right direction?
How do they look?
How do I get into contact with them?
What should I be aware of?
Is it strictly business? They don't reveal anything about their personal lives, do they?
CRD176[/QUOTE]
I do not mean to be rude, by why are you asking these questions? This forum is packed with information on every tangent of life over here, and all you need to to is read. Then, if you have any specific questions, pose them and I'm sure the guys here would be willing to answer.
[QUOTE=GoodEnough]While nothing beats the price/quality ratio at LA Cafe, provided that you're patient and willing to wait until the one you love comes along, EDSA has a good cost/benefit ratio as well. The bar fine is PhP1000, but the girls are never more than PhP1,500 for as long as you like. Also, if you attach a monetary value to your time, the ratio increases, since there's a higher percentage of good looking women in EDSA than in LA Cafe, and therefore you need to spend less time looking. Burgos, on the other hand, is ridiculous and does not represent much value for money.
It is somewhat amazing so me though that so many first timers stick to the well-trodden path to Manila when there are so many more attractive, and less expensive options available to anyone with even a smidgen of adventurous spirit. To each his own I suppose.
:D
GE[/QUOTE]
GE,
I will be in Cebu at the end of March and I like to get off the beaten path. Lend me your hiking shoes, and your well worn map to help me get acquainted with the ladies in places other than what's on the beaten path. I've read the forum and have formulated a plan of places to visit, but maybe you could enlighten me on a "must see, must visit" place to hook up with some nice non pro action. I will be ever in your service!
Yella Man
[QUOTE=Yella Man]GE,
I will be in Cebu at the end of March and I like to get off the beaten path. Lend me your hiking shoes, and your well worn map to help me get acquainted with the ladies in places other than what's on the beaten path. I've read the forum and have formulated a plan of places to visit, but maybe you could enlighten me on a "must see, must visit" place to hook up with some nice non pro action. I will be ever in your service!
Yella Man[/QUOTE]
Yella Man, I would like to help, but I am not even an expert on the "beaten path" in Cebu. I've only been to Cebu a couple of times. Cebu Local is the man for this advice. If you want some information about Davao or even Mindanao in general. I would be happy to help.
I can however, send you my worn hiking boots if this would be any help.
:D
GE
I will be visiting Davao for the first time. Can you give me some advice on good bars, massage partlours, or a general idea of where I should be casting my line.
Thanks
Hey Guys -
Sorry to intrude on a pay-for-play discussion, but out of curiosity, why are there so many young ladies in their early twenties from the Philippines who are looking to marry guys up to 60 years old?
The sex trade in many other countries is just as strong, (Thailand, Costa Rica, etc.), but if you browse the various "buy a wife" sites you only get a few hits for young women who will marry an old fart like me. (I'm 50, more or less, stuck in the land of do-it-yourself, the ol' USA.) Not so in the Philippines!
I assume most of these women are pros or semi-pros. (Heck, you guys may have spent some time with a few. Why not go to [url]www.blossoms.com[/url] and see if you recognize anyone? **PLEASE DON'T BLOW HER COVER!** But it should be good for a few grins.)
I'm gathering that if I have any interest in a Philippine lady, I shouldn't spend a cent on a dating service, but rather drag my old butt over there.
teenieweenie, Some of the girls at the online sites are pros or scammers. See the post I just made at the Filipina section. I think the majority are legit. I think it's a great way to set things up especially if you want to visit some new places.
As for your WHY question.... well, the answer could very well be a master's dissertation, but I'll give my quick take...and expect a few others will also.
In addition to being poor, they have a heavy reliance on money coming in from relatives overseas...often from Filipinos working overseas and sometimes from someone who married a foreigner. There are also quite a few Filipinos that made it to the USA by joining the military, not to mention the many ladies who married a serviceman when the bases were open. There is a Max's restaurant in San Diego
These relatives send money / bring gifts and they appear to be rich. So, there's that aspect ... getting to a developed country seems a bit like hitting the lottery. I went to a small mountain town in the hills one hour out of Cebu. I saw a really nice home, very well kept. I pointed it out and my companion said, "Oh, she married a foreigner."
I'd say there is the added element of it being fashionable and acceptable to have a foreign guy, even an older one. Once enough people do it, it becomes okay. My mountain girl (I met at CB) is a regular girl living in the big city and working in a factory on Mactan. She 26 and me 46. I met her father who is the only one left up on the mountain. She actually asked her father if she could accompany me during my visit. I just about crapped when I heard that...but he apparently allowed it because she stuck with me for the next three days. Not nearly as beautiful as some of the bar girls, but never made a fuss, never asked for money and was ready and willing every time I, ummm, felt the urge. Life is good in the Phil islands.
I was also reading another web site recently ...I searched for Camiguin and found the site of a German diver..lots of pictures. I think the term "single" or "single traveler" is in the URL. Somewhere in his adventures he mentions going to a village between CDO and Butuan and meeting a 60 yr old Filipino guy with an 18yr old wife. Wow.
X
i have recently been using a service called skype. [url]www.skype.com[/url] is the link.
this service is really good and is better voice connection than talking by cell phone. especially in the usa with all the compression they use at peak times. making it so you can't understand the other person you are talking with.
these internet phone services are going to change the way phone companies operate and i hope put a few of those blood sucking companies out of business.
if you have high speed connection you can buy a head set and call and talk to anyone using this type of system.
you can buy phone that works within a wireless lan area and pick up all your messages and other task that are available. if the other person also has skype you talk for free. ... no cost and it is very clear and no delays.
you can also buy time to call regular phone numbers and the rates are very good and again very clear reception.
it is working good for me, may not be for everyone, but i would check it out if you make lots of international or long distance calls.
there are other services available other than skype that do the same thing.
ff
Like yourself [b]Frequent Flyer[/b] I have been using [url=www.Skype.com]Skype[/url] for the last seven months and have used in Australia, Japan, New Zealand, Thailand, Indonesia, The Philippines, Poland, The Czech Republic and Dubai. It works very well although I have detected that at certain times of the day, when it is busy the drop out rate is quite high.
However, I have topped up my account and put ten Euros on it and it’s cheap enough, its great for calling out to any fixed line phone or mobile but the minor drawback is that you cannot be called back from a mobile or landline, only someone else on Skype, plus you cannot call the police. Skype also works on dial up lines if your hotel doesn’t have a broadband connection.
You are correct this is the future for telephony and already here in the UK we have three companies offering a similar service, one of them is a telephone company but to get it you have to have a fixed line phone (??) as well as Yahoo. I did read that Google is looking to start a similar service. I still believe in buying a local [i]sim[/i] card when I am in country as a complement to Skype, but I have yet to try out Skype on an aircraft that offers in-flight internet service, Lufthansa, Singapore Airlines and Emirates offer Internet access on some flights, but I am curious about the results.
You can be called back from a mobile or landline. You can use skypein for this. [url]http://www.skype.com/products/skypein/[/url]
You can buy skypein in any of these countries and people can ring you up by calling a local number.
Brazil
Japan
Denmark
Poland
Estonia
Sweden
Finland
Switzerland
France
United Kingdom
Germany
United States
Hong Kong S.A.R., China
If you're for instance in the Phils and you have a US skype in number, people in the US can call the US skype in number to contact you against a local tariff.
[QUOTE=Juniour]Like yourself [b]Frequent Flyer[/b]
.. but the minor drawback is that you cannot be called back from a mobile or landline, only someone else on Skype, plus you cannot call the police. Skype also works on dial up lines if your hotel doesn’t have a broadband connection.
.[/QUOTE]
Whats the deal with FilipinaHeart.com?
I tried to reply to a message yesterday, and up popped a questionaire. It took up an entire screen. They have a notice that reads in part:
[quote] The US Congress has recently passed legislation that requires most online dating companies to collect information regarding the criminal and marital history of US citizens or residents who will communicate with foreign nationals. The purpose of this legislation is to protect foreign women from domestic violence.[/quote]
Then ask a bunch of personal stuff relating to your marital status, children, court orders. Then they close with:
[quote]I understand that US law requires that the above information must be accessible to every foreign national whom I correspond with.[/quote]
They don't really cite the legislation, but have a link to some protest site at [url]http://www.internationalmarriagebrokers.com/[/url]
Strange. Especially since this is an Australian web site. To my knowledge, no US-based E-commerce site complies with European laws on data collection, privacy, and especially, taxation. For example, under European law, email lists must be opt-in. Sites like Amazon.com require you opt-out of their list after you place an order.
I don't really understand why they are caving in so easy on this issue--assuming its legit. Could this site have been hijacked? Seems not, since the form has remained over 24 hours.
[QUOTE=Joel Goodson]You can be called back from a mobile or landline.[/QUOTE]
Thanks [b] Joel Goodson[/b] but there is a charge for this service, hence the reason I am sticking with local sim cards
I posted an update regarding FilipinaHeart.com in the Dating Services forum at
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1823[/url]
guys,
just some advice - it's worth your time to have two hotel rooms should your finances permit. one that you play from, and the other where you actually live. never bring any girl you pick up back to your apartment or long term hotel. you are in a very poor country - desperation breeds creativity and opportunity - and you, my brother, are the opportunity. i just experienced my first, and hopefully my last stalker.
cute, met in greenbelt, a popular and upscale mall - about 4'11, incredible body, great smile - charming. not a pro, but very weird and exceptionally hard to get rid of - very curious about my business and "contacts." she spent the night - wanted me to take her "shopping." (ah, so this isn't for free - wound up donating about p3000, way too much - espically considering the followup hassles), not an espically great experience and when i saw her in the morning i was seriously worried about having slept with a 16 year old. (said she was 24... and her id was stolen, of course with her assets - i'd have believed anything) made the mistake of bringing her back to my place - days later she started leaving notes with building security and sending lots of txt messages. "i really miss you, can i see you again?!? muah!" not good...
like an idiot - i went out with her one last time (did i mention her rack?) - she kept mentioning that someone was following her, it got weirder and weirder - i had a very bad feeling about the situation. told her (multiple times) that she was not coming back to my place, we were just friends, and that we were not spending the night together. i was ready to dash into a cab, she was demanding to go use the restroom (ie. make another phone call) - i hopped in a cab and took off with her knocking on the window. she sent me text messages until 4:00 am with questions, comments, insults, ect. the whole scene just had the look of a setup or shakedown - which happens frequently here.
stories in the pi abound with tales of guys who get nailed on trumped up [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] charges. any girl can get 10 locals to swear under oath that they saw you stuff the girl into a cab - or hell, that you nailed her right on the platform of the ayala mrt. when you have nothing, you also have nothing to lose.
i am still getting pinged by this girl, i've alerted building security, will likely get a new sim card for my phone, worst case - i have her exported to the provinces (i work with the government).
let's recap...
1. the philippines is a devoutly catholic country, odds are strong that you are not brad pitt - therefore, if you are getting laid on the first "date," she is a prostitute.
2. ask for id, if she looks 16 - she's 31, if she looks 28 - she's 17. if she can't produce id - don't fuck her. it'll flatter her if you tell her she looks 16 anyway - unless she's 14!
3. never bring a girl back to your place - espically if you own the place, have money (meaning, nice things - expensive furnishings), or value your privacy.
4. never overpay - she'll latch onto you faster than a thirsty tick. if you are a rich expat - you set yourself up for future shakedowns or worse - a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] charge.
5. always use a condom (for all the obvious reasons), the not so obvious one is if you blow the winning load into her - it will medically support a fradulant [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] charge or worse, lifelong child support... (ah, and that includes her, her children (you didn't think junior was going to be an only child? did u?), her bothers and sisters, unemployed family, friends and filipino boyfriend)
and all this time i though i was paying for the girl to go away in the morning! :)
cheers, sa
[quote=shadowaxis]guys,
just some advice - it's worth your time to have two hotel rooms should your finances permit. one that you play from, and the other where you actually live. never bring any girl you pick up back to your apartment or long term hotel. you are in a very poor country - desperation breeds creativity and opportunity - and you, my brother, are the opportunity. i just experienced my first, and hopefully my last stalker.
cute, met in greenbelt, a popular and upscale mall - about 4'11, incredible body, great smile - charming. not a pro, but very weird and exceptionally hard to get rid of - very curious about my business and "contacts." she spent the night - wanted me to take her "shopping." (ah, so this isn't for free - wound up donating about p3000, way too much - espically considering the followup hassles), not an espically great experience and when i saw her in the morning i was seriously worried about having slept with a 16 year old. (said she was 24... and her id was stolen, of course with her assets - i'd have believed anything) made the mistake of bringing her back to my place - days later she started leaving notes with building security and sending lots of txt messages. "i really miss you, can i see you again?!? muah!" not good...
like an idiot - i went out with her one last time (did i mention her rack?) - she kept mentioning that someone was following her, it got weirder and weirder - i had a very bad feeling about the situation. told her (multiple times) that she was not coming back to my place, we were just friends, and that we were not spending the night together. i was ready to dash into a cab, she was demanding to go use the restroom (ie. make another phone call) - i hopped in a cab and took off with her knocking on the window. she sent me text messages until 4:00 am with questions, comments, insults, ect. the whole scene just had the look of a setup or shakedown - which happens frequently here.
stories in the pi abound with tales of guys who get nailed on trumped up [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] charges. any girl can get 10 locals to swear under oath that they saw you stuff the girl into a cab - or hell, that you nailed her right on the platform of the ayala mrt. when you have nothing, you also have nothing to lose.
i am still getting pinged by this girl, i've alerted building security, will likely get a new sim card for my phone, worst case - i have her exported to the provinces (i work with the government).
let's recap...
1. the philippines is a devoutly catholic country, odds are strong that you are not brad pitt - therefore, if you are getting laid on the first "date," she is a prostitute.
2. ask for id, if she looks 16 - she's 31, if she looks 28 - she's 17. if she can't produce id - don't fuck her. it'll flatter her if you tell her she looks 16 anyway - unless she's 14!
3. never bring a girl back to your place - espically if you own the place, have money (meaning, nice things - expensive furnishings), or value your privacy.
4. never overpay - she'll latch onto you faster than a thirsty tick. if you are a rich expat - you set yourself up for future shakedowns or worse - a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] charge.
5. always use a condom (for all the obvious reasons), the not so obvious one is if you blow the winning load into her - it will medically support a fradulant [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] charge or worse, lifelong child support... (ah, and that includes her, her children (you didn't think junior was going to be an only child? did u?), her bothers and sisters, unemployed family, friends and filipino boyfriend)
and all this time i though i was paying for the girl to go away in the morning! :)
cheers, sa[/quote]
hi sa
i regret to inform you that according to one of my retainer lawyers,who is a moonlighting city prosecutor,she can claim that you have commited the following crimes statuatory [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] and seduction.that even if it consentatory,you can be facing 10 up to 12 years in jail.she can easily run to one of the left leaning femenist groups like gabriela and they will provide lawyers who will prosecute you for free.get rid of her as quickly as you can.good luck and i will pm you some advice to deal with this
I am an open bisexual male who will be making a tour of the Philippines and Thailand beginning in May, and will be spending one month at this time in the Manila/Makati area and the rest of my vacation in Thailand, and I was wondering if anyone has any information on swingers clubs that are located in these areas, as I would love to explore that type of lifestyle. Thank you for any information you can provide me!
I am a bisexual male and will be in the Philippines the beginning of May with my travel partner and will be spending one week in Makati and then we would like to go to see the tribes and the culture that is located in Bagio City. There does not seem to be much information available on Bagio City so I was wondering if it is a safe area for us to go to, and what the mongering is like in that area. Any other information you can provide would be very helpful to my friend and I. In advance thank you for your kindness in helping us prepare our trip and making it safe.
[QUOTE=Prov 01]I am a bisexual male and will be in the Philippines the beginning of May with my travel partner and will be spending one week in Makati and then we would like to go to see the tribes and the culture that is located in Bagio City. There does not seem to be much information available on Bagio City so I was wondering if it is a safe area for us to go to, and what the mongering is like in that area. Any other information you can provide would be very helpful to my friend and I. In advance thank you for your kindness in helping us prepare our trip and making it safe.[/QUOTE]The Philippines is a tolerant society towards different sexual orientation,Why dont you visit any of the Gay bars and nightclubs in manila and Baguio to try it out.In Manila,Go to the Malate gay bars and clubs,In Quezon city Try Chicos.Makati doesnt have any Gay bars and clubs.If you want more detailed info,I can ask my Gay staff or just buy the gay magazines on sale in the larger bookshops..Cheers
I don't want to start any conflict, but i can't let this pass.
This is a really stupid thing to say. And if you think about it you'll admit it was inappropriate.:
*** 1. The Philippines is a devoutly catholic country, odds are strong that you are NOT Brad Pitt - therefore, if you are getting laid on the first "date," she is a prostitute. ***
Other than that, thanks for the interesting post.
X
[QUOTE=X Man]I don't want to start any conflict, but i can't let this pass.
This is a really stupid thing to say. And if you think about it you'll admit it was inappropriate.:
*** 1. The Philippines is a devoutly catholic country, odds are strong that you are NOT Brad Pitt - therefore, if you are getting laid on the first "date," she is a prostitute. ***
Other than that, thanks for the interesting post.
X[/QUOTE]I totally agree,I personally have got normal girls on the first dateand so have several of my buddies.The key was We showed them kindness and respect.We were neatly dressed,polite,held good jobs,looked at least average and had foriegn passports.Cancontrib is another good example this is very possibile.Look at his posts in the Manila thread
Prov 1, I haven't been to Baguio in years, but I can't imagine any safety issues other than the obvious: don't pick fights, don't be overtly rude to ANYONE, use condoms and don't get falling down drunk.
I've lost two wallets in the Philippines. One was taken when I was in a crowded jeepney in Angeles, the other I dropped in a taxi (duh) in Makati.
As for your particular sexual quirks, I also cannot imagine not being able to find what you are looking for.
To add to what CL wrote, I notice there are quite a few comedy clubs that feature gays. These guys would likely have lots of info. The one place I visited in Remidos Circle (MLA), was good for a few laughs, but the humor was generally crude. They tend to generate their laughs by humiliating members of the audience. For example, my date was asked if I "had a big one".
X
I've managed a few myself CL. At least one tried to return the spending money I had given her during our two day foray to Bohol, so I'm willing to bet she wasn't selling skin.
I'm finding the more I visit the Philippines, the fewer bar fines I pay.
But what's this about "average looking"? I'm bald, bearded, beer-gutted, middle-aged and ugly as sin.
X
[QUOTE=X Man]I've managed a few myself CL. At least one tried to return the spending money I had given her during our two day foray to Bohol, so I'm willing to bet she wasn't selling skin.
I'm finding the more I visit the Philippines, the fewer bar fines I pay.
But what's this about "average looking"? I'm bald, bearded, beer-gutted, middle-aged and ugly as sin.
X[/QUOTE]Average looking is relative,To the average Pinay being Foriegn Means you are exotic looking,Middle aged can be matured compared to childish.More power to you
The only tribes in Baguio are some older members from Ifugao who hang out at the Botanical Gardens and let you take thrir picture for a small fee.
[QUOTE=Prov 01]I am a bisexual male and will be in the Philippines the beginning of May with my travel partner and will be spending one week in Makati and then we would like to go to see the tribes and the culture that is located in Bagio City. There does not seem to be much information available on Bagio City so I was wondering if it is a safe area for us to go to, and what the mongering is like in that area. Any other information you can provide would be very helpful to my friend and I. In advance thank you for your kindness in helping us prepare our trip and making it safe.[/QUOTE]
Looks like Dashing Don aka Face Pisser, Guinesss, Prov 01, Toss it Off, I mean Tee It Off , Has finally come out of the closet here, not that we had any doubt about which way he was swinging since he's never posted about a woman.
I don’t know why you are posting here, forget Bagio, there are many gay bars in Davao you should feel right at home down there with a big gay community. You should send a pm to our own man among men Dragon Slayer for more information.
Please ignore the posts from Prov 01. This is one of On The Go's many monkiers. You can also find him under "On The Fly". He's still can't get over being banished to his own thread in the Thai Section.
Anyway Juniour. I'm glad to hear you and OTG are still maintaining your "close" relationship. Too bad the convicted felon cannot leave the U.S. for a while. Perhaps you can come to visit him in his home town. I'm sure he has lots of friends who would enjoy your company :)
If you guys are having some kind of lovers spat on the Thai board, please don't bring it over here. The Philippine boards have been relatively peaceful with lots of good posts.
X
[QUOTE=X Man]If you guys are having some kind of lovers spat on the Thai board, please don't bring it over here. The Philippine boards have been relatively peaceful with lots of good posts.
X[/QUOTE]
I second the motion (but please don't go back to the Thai board!).
No offense directed at the gay community but this forum is for heterosexuals - I'm sure there are comparables for bi-sexual.
IMHO
[QUOTE=Traveler1234]I second the motion (but please don't go back to the Thai board!).
No offense directed at the gay community but this forum is for heterosexuals - I'm sure there are comparables for bi-sexual.
IMHO[/QUOTE]
The fag who is posting as "Prov 01" has done this to confuse people because I helped get him banned under his original name of "On The Go". You can look up his history. Another handle he is now using is "On The Fly". He is a convicted felon who cannot leave the U.S. because he has violated the terms of his parole and would be arrested as he enters the U.S. border. Just ignore him.
By now, its obvious to everyone that On The Go is back, masquerading under the handle Prov 01, a patently obvious effort to impugn the sterling reputation of Prov1. Obvious to everyone except Junior that is.
It really makes you wonder at the quality of Junior's reports when he can't figure out something as basic as this. Could it be that 'girls' Junior said he was with weren't really. If OTG could pull the wool over Junior's eyes, then so could a tranny or ladyboy. I think it just makes all his reports suspect.
Of course, pot-smoking rastafarians like Junior are never given great credibility to begin with, so perhaps I worry too much.
Don
[QUOTE=Dashing Don]By now, its obvious to everyone that:[/QUOTE]
You are here to start flame wars and assasinate peoples character.
[QUOTE=Dashing Don]impugn the sterling reputation of Prov1 [/QUOTE]
Thats a laugh, what reputation? He has posted no info whatsoever.
[QUOTE=Dashing Don]It really makes you wonder....[/QUOTE]
What sort of drugs you are on; maybe you should try smoking some pot, you will be less depressed.
[QUOTE=Dashing Don] I think it just makes all his reports suspect.[/QUOTE]
You Think? Everybody thinks you are the main suspect.
[QUOTE=Prov1] Just ignore him.[/QUOTE]
Finally you have come up with some good advise!
Mattrick, Talk about too much time on your hands. Nice job of cutting and pasting. You must be a Junior High School English teacher the way you continue to make comments about every sentence of a post. Are you also one of Juniour’s butt buddies? :)
[QUOTE=Juniour] Yes thanks, I am pretty proud of my big dick, in fact when I am next in Angeles City maybe I should organise a "who’s got the biggest dick in the bar competition" and what I can do is use my mouth to judge members.[/QUOTE]
Whatever floats your boat Juniour. I'm sure OTG would like to join you but he cannot leave the U.S. Anyway, have fun...
I just learned a new trick....inserted a list of names on my ignore list and now there's peace on this thread. Damn...thanks a bunch Jackson!
I'm curious. The correct spelling of the word 'impugn' is just that, impugn. Lo and behold, Mattrick the Great, quotes me as using 'impune', and he uses the forums's quote feature to quote me as saying 'impune the sterling reputation of Prov1'. But I never wrote that! I wrote 'impugn the sterling reputation of Prov1.'
Whats going on here?
Mattrick, tell us all how you managed to use the quote function AND rewrite the quote at the same time.
Don
Only Junior could write a post that begins by calling everyone a homosexual and ends by describing his own member at length. Going so far as to ask other males to check the measurements of said member.
The absurdity of this escapes Junior.
As always, the inverse ratio of dick size to brains applies.
But I digress.
Now where should this dick checking experiment take place? Angeles is a little out of the way for me; I can't stand that place. How about neutral ground? Like LA Cafe for ex. Upstairs? I'm sure we could arrange something soon, maybe in the next few weeks.
Prov, are you going to be around so we can meet up with Junior?
[QUOTE=Dashing Don]
Prov, are you going to be around so we can meet up with Junior?[/QUOTE]
I will be there the week of April 10th. I say Rastafarian boy doesn't have the stones to show up....
Where the hell is my invite?
[QUOTE=Prov1]I will be there the week of April 10th. I say Rastafarian boy doesn't have the stones to show up....[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Latina Passion]Where the hell is my invite?[/QUOTE]
Of course you are invited. However, if Juniour wants to do a pecker check on you with his mouth then I cannot be held responsible. Anyway, I only wish OTG could get out of the country so we could take turns making him cry.....
Ok, its all set but the date.
Myself, Prov, and Latina Passion will examine Junior's pride, and see if it measures up. The only thing we have to decide on is the date. Any other thoughtful, reflective members, conscious of the seriousness of the matter are also welcome.
My only concern is a substitute. Should Junior decide to send a sub, how can we be sure of his identity? An on-the-spot writing sample could help prove Junior's id.........but still. The civil servant in me wants more backup.
And what about standards? For example, if Junior becomes excited and erect, would that measurement be his de facto 'size', or his 'half mast' measurement.
I need input from the membership on this as I'd like to conduct as rigorous an examination as possible, considering what's at stake.
Don
[QUOTE=Dashing Don]
My only concern is a substitute. Should Junior decide to send a sub, how can we be sure of his identity? An on-the-spot writing sample could help prove Junior's id.........but still. The civil servant in me wants more backup.
Don[/QUOTE]
How many dumbass African-Jamaican’s can there be in Manila masquerading as a British citizen?
[QUOTE=Dashing Don]
And what about standards? For example, if Junior becomes excited and erect, would that measurement be his de facto 'size', or his 'half mast' measurement.
Don[/QUOTE]
If “On The Go” were to be in town that could be a real problem however he cannot leave the country now due to legal problems so this should not be an issue.
[QUOTE=Dashing Don]Ok, its all set but the date.
Myself, Prov, and Latina Passion will examine Junior's pride, and see if it measures up. The only thing we have to decide on is the date. Any other thoughtful, reflective members, conscious of the seriousness of the matter are also welcome.
Don[/QUOTE]
Gentlemen,
As if any more proof were needed about which way this guy swings, only a 100% fag would volunteer to travel half way around the world to inspect another guy's dick. I bet he’s got a boner just thinking about this.
I rest my case.
We all know the type. The guy that brags about the size of his dick is usually the guy with the smallest dick in the crowd. Maybe his "monkier" relates to the size of his HIV infested wee-wee...or his IQ. I really hate to point this out but if you look up "mental midget" in the Websters Dictionary you will see the following picture...truly sad for my good friend and mentor, Juniour.
I think the word for which you're searching is "moniker."
Hey guys,
One of my ladies keeps using the term "no na lng".
Anyone help with translation? Much appreciated.
Dood53
[QUOTE=Dood53]Hey guys,
One of my ladies keeps using the term "no na lng".
Anyone help with translation? Much appreciated.
Dood53[/QUOTE]
It means: Man of small dick.
Sorry Dood! :D
[QUOTE=Guinness]It means: Man of small dick.
Sorry Dood! :D[/QUOTE]Hah ha ha!
Guinness, you just made me drop off my seat laughing!
I can read, speak the language (tagalog) and that is
Not exactly what it means although indirectly it might,
As I will explain:
The phrase is actually written as follows "No Na Lang"
And pronounced as such with "Lang" pronounced nasally,
Which actually means "No Thank You".
Your translation is not that farfetched if the lady is using
The phrase in this way: "No Na Lang. Maliit ang Titi mo"
Which translates to "No Thank You. You got a small dick. "
Cheers!
I'll be in Tagaytay in a month or so. Are there any bars of note in the area or do i need to do my mongering in Manila.
[QUOTE=New Kid]Hah ha ha!
Guinness, you just made me drop off my seat laughing!
I can read, speak the language (tagalog) and that is
Not exactly what it means although indirectly it might,
As I will explain:
The phrase is actually written as follows "No Na Lang"
And pronounced as such with "Lang" pronounced nasally,
Which actually means "No Thank You".
Your translation is not that farfetched if the lady is using
The phrase in this way: "No Na Lang. Maliit ang Titi mo"
Which translates to "No Thank You. You got a small dick. "
Cheers![/QUOTE]
Thanks, New Kid. The context was her asking me if I wanted her to secure a 3rd girl for our vacation: "Should I ask Ella to come with us, yes or no na lng?"
Guinness- I didn't realize Jackson let 12 year-old's register here, but thanks anyway.
Dood53
[QUOTE=Dood53]
Guinness- I didn't realize Jackson let 12 year-old's register here, but thanks anyway.
Dood53[/QUOTE]
This means: Dood of no humor :)
Guinness
Actually the words "na lang" when tacked onto almost any verb, add emphasis to whatever is being expressed. Thus, "no na lang" is a much stronger way of saying "no" than the word itself. Maybe a polite translation would be closer to "emphatically not!" Combining "na lang" with "oy" as in "No na lang oy!" adds even more emphasis.
I do not speak fluent Tagalog, but I am studying it, and this is the teacher's explanation.
:D
GE
Actually this phrase is actually what is known in Filipino slang as "Taglish" as in "Tag-Lish" as in "Tagalog + English".
"No" is what it is in english and as GE has explained "na lang" provides emphasis. The tagalog word for "No" is actually "Hindi" or "Huwag", which actually is the english "Don't" or "Do Not", and is interchangeable with "No" such as "Hindi Na Lang" to mean 'Never Mind' or likewise "Huwag Na Lang" to mean 'It don't matter' or 'It does not matter'.
Also 'Taglish' is not a dialect but is comparable to California's 'Valley Talk'. Filipinos mainly used this to make themselves know as belonging to the upper level strata of Filipino society. You could hear this kind of talk among filipinos/filipinas in the Metro-Manila area such as Makati, Ortigas, Alabang etc.
[QUOTE=GoodEnough]Actually the words "na lang" when tacked onto almost any verb, add emphasis to whatever is being expressed. Thus, "no na lang" is a much stronger way of saying "no" than the word itself. Maybe a polite translation would be closer to "emphatically not!" Combining "na lang" with "oy" as in "No na lang oy!" adds even more emphasis.
I do not speak fluent Tagalog, but I am studying it, and this is the teacher's explanation.
:D
GE[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Juniour]
But I am happy for you to endorse that as my photo, [size=1](yes guys that’s definitely me!) [/size] however, you will have to answer the question as to why it is that I have obviously had far more women than you? [/QUOTE]
Please take a look at an example of one of Juniour's many conquests at the bottom of this post: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=408942&postcount=451[/url]
Now I ask, would you actually brag about doing this pathetic hosebag? If your name is Juniour then the answer is Otay! I must be fair to poor Juniour. This was quite an improvement to the tranny who blew him a week earlier in Australia. Please keep those field reports coming Juniour. They are a laugh a minute...
I found this below non-profit organization and checked into it as a way to get in touch with others who share your same interests, and it sounds like a great way to meet others other than in the typical settings. Follow the rainbow and enjoy it all.
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Hey Otg,
If you are coming out of the closet again please do it somewhere else.
Nobody wants to read this shit.
Well, I'm certainly in no position to criticize someon's second language skills, but I found this particular ad a bit humourous.
"hello my aall dear friend im here to tell you that im a loving well edicated woman seeking fhr the same thing like you think...im here to fine a guy who is honest and someone i can trust i wish that i can fine the right special someone here god bless all...."
Hmmm, "seeking the same thing like you think". I guess that means shes looking for some really hot, nasty sex.
X
[QUOTE=X Man]
Hmmm, "seeking the same thing like you think". I guess that means shes looking for some really hot, nasty sex.
X[/QUOTE]
I'll bet she's "well educated" in cock sucking!
Guinness
I have a tri-band phone I use in Thailand. Will I be able to use it in the PI? Or should I ask, are sim cards and pre-paid mobile phone use as common in the PI as in Thailand?
Thank you.
JW
[QUOTE=J Wow]I have a tri-band phone I use in Thailand. Will I be able to use it in the PI? Or should I ask, are sim cards and pre-paid mobile phone use as common in the PI as in Thailand?
Thank you.
JW[/QUOTE]
to j wow
Pre paid sim card in pi is one of the cheapest in asia , global tel sim cost 200 peso $ 4usd with 50 free text add 100 peso usage good for 45 min local call
and you can keep adding as you need, yes you need a tri band phone and
harrison plaza or robinson mall have many vendor for sim card.
fast eddie 48
HI Guys,
Does anyone know (for 100% sure) of aany hotels in Makati that have ABCasiapcificTV (Aust TV)?
Will be in Manila on May 6th and must must must see a particular AFL footy match.
Failing a list of hotels, does anyone know any Aussie (sports) bar that always shows the games?
Bangkok is usually my stomping ground and I know the hotels and bars there but Im sadly lacking this info in Makati.
Cheers and Thanks,
Johnny
Although we all have heard the bar girl sob stories and assume it's all bllsht, this is a seriously impoverished country. Just last week in Cebu I was hanging out with a girl and we went back to her place for a change of clothes. I've seen these places before and it never fails to amaze me. When I was a teenager some friends and I built a tree fort that was nicer and more spacious. And what's with the magazine pages as wallpaper? The two ladies living in the room shared a bed made for one with only a fan for cooling. Can you imagine how hot and uncomfortable that must be sharing a small bed with another human in the typical hot and humid weather of the Philippines.
** Hmmm, maybe that's why she spent three days with me, no barfine, never asked for a penny, and no rules except, "don't fk my friends or coworkers".
from:
[url]http://news.monstersandcritics.com/health/article_1161675.php/More_people_going_hungry_in_the_Philippines_in_2006[/url]
Manila - The number of people going hungry in the Philippines rose in the first three months of the year, despite the highly publicized poverty alleviation programmes of President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo and strong economic figures, a survey said Saturday.
'The percentage of households reporting having experienced hunger, with nothing to eat at least once in the past three months, reached a record high of 16.9 per cent in March 2006,' the Social Wealth Stations (SWS), which conducted the survey, said.
That equates to 2.8 million families and surpassed the previous peak of 16.7 per cent recorded in December 2005, the survey indicated.
The survey came as the Philippine government predicted better- than-expected growth of 5.5 per cent for the year's first quarter. The actual growth figures were expected to be released later in the month.
'Severe hunger, defined as families going hungry often or always in the last three months, was at 4.2 per cent in March 2006, or almost 700,000 families,' the SWS said.
'Moderate hunger, defined as those experieincing it once or a few times in the last three months, was at 12.7 per cent in March 2006 or equivalent to 2.1 million families,' it adeed.
The SWS said that the number of families going hungry has been on the rise since the end of 2003.
The Philippine economy has been badly hurt by rising oil prices, as well as political turmoil brought about by questions over Arroyo's legitimacy as president.
More than one third of the country's 85.2 million people live in poverty, surviving on a daily income of less than one dollar.
The guy that wants to use a triband phone here, the answer is yes and a quad band phone works here also. You might have to take the phone to the mall and get the "line opened" and this should cast around 4-800-p depending on weather you or your gal takes it to the counter.
Whenever any foreign person goes to a market or a store they generaly charge us whats called "WHITE SKINN TAX" this is where its open season at a business to charge more than normal to a person other than a local. I found this to be true in most cases at many different stores on mant different goods.Cigarettes are the most common thats why I sent my gal to do all the dealing with everyone when I wanted to get food,furnature, anything over and above what I needeed to get by for an hour or two.
They can tell me a price and she can beat up the sales person after I go around the corner.You can also play a game when you both look at something together tell her to give you a heads up as to the item you or she wants and have her get the item later.
They were all like that at the markets when I went alone thats why I shop for things and send here back later to buy what I wanted.
The street vendors can also be talked down from the skin price to a better one just by letting them know you think it's too much.The rumor is they see CASH and they don't want it to walk out.So never try and and pay the long dollar or peso, but make an argument and see how fast the price goes down.
Play Safe, B.C.
I have seen many guys get taken from fellow countrymen in business deals they are offered ti INVEST IN. Yes the word here is "INVEST" and it is another way to say I WANT TO TAKE YOUR MONEY. The best thing to do in this country is KEEP A LOW PROFILE.Thats my honest opinion and mine only. There are guys here that want to tell everyone I GOT MORE MONEY THAN GOD.Who cares thats nice, but you never know who might use that statement against you in what might look like a great investment deal. And the problem is the court sistem takes years to sort these things out.
The best thing to do here is if you want to start a business here stick to what you know. Do not go into something you have no idea about and let someone else do the thinking.I would not do this kind of thing in my own country and I surely would never do it in another place 9000 miles from home.Remember the only friend you have here is your ability to support yourself and your family in other words your hard earned MONEY.You will see and here of all the guys that are rich and making big money here,Thats all as they say "BULA BULA"
You will never make money if you have peso's cumming in and you are spending the same.The real money is have dollars cumming in and spending Peso's.The thought of cheep living is a smoke screen of the truth, in some ways you can live cheeper and yes it is cheeper but electric is more, and oil, and gas is more. If you want to live like an average philippino you can live cheep but if you want the same style as at home be prepared to spend some money.If you are in the transportation biz at home get a van and transport people to manila from an area like subic many guys do that and make aboyt 60 dollars a trip to the airport doing this. Is it big money no but it is a living and it gives you something to do.
Thats the deal here after a while you get stale, things are not fun anymore unless you have a strucyur in your life."A JOB OR HOBBY" I do not mean 8-10 hours per day just someyhing to pass the time not going from bar to bar drinking and playing darts. Thats good way to get old and stale in a hurry.I know a guy that stayed here for 4 years and invested his money and lost 2-3 million pesos and was married to a gambling local gal and he is now dead and gone.He told me of the good times and I saw first hand the bad times right up to the end when he died in febuary this year a guy 53 years old. He got suckered in and was going from person to person wanting a loan until his reletive in another country sent hime more cash. He lived this way fo over 2 years of his life.
Stick to a business you know, think before you spend, and find a hobby besides bar to bar every day and you can have a great life here.And when you here the local millionare bragging about what he has see how long he crows about his big bucks before you see him at the airport going home or stand in the corner calling his family trying to get there money to get him through.
THINK MORE PLAY SAFER, B.C...
I got my old name back and will be posting under BILL Buxton not Bcarting1 anymore.
I'm new to the Philippines.
I just would like to know if it is possible to find generic Viagra/Cialis (like Vigora, Zeagra, Camagra, Tada, ect. etc.) in the Philippines (Cebu City and smaller cities).
How much does it cost for 4 - 100 mg tablets?
Thanks!
L.
[QUOTE=Lorenz]I'm new to the Philippines.
I just would like to know if it is possible to find generic Viagra/Cialis (like Vigora, Zeagra, Camagra, Tada, ect. etc.) in the Philippines (Cebu City and smaller cities).
How much does it cost for 4 - 100 mg tablets?
Thanks!
L.[/QUOTE]Not generally
[QUOTE=Bcarting1]The guy that wants to use a triband phone here, the answer is yes and a quad band phone works here also. You might have to take the phone to the mall and get the "line opened" and this should cast around 4-800-p depending on weather you or your gal takes it to the counter.
[/QUOTE]
Usually I have paid around 2-300 pesos each for unlocking, and I didn't bring any girl lol.
[QUOTE=Bcarting1]Whenever any foreign person goes to a market or a store they generaly charge us whats called "WHITE SKINN TAX" this is where its open season at a business to charge more than normal to a person other than a local. I found this to be true in most cases at many different stores on mant different goods.Cigarettes are the most common thats why I sent my gal to do all the dealing with everyone when I wanted to get food,furnature, anything over and above what I needeed to get by for an hour or two.[/QUOTE]
The white skin tax is usually optional. Just smile and joke a little and take your time negotiating. In 90% of the cases you WILL get filipino price, or even better sometimes. If the vendor is in the 10% hardhead cat, just move on. There's not exactly a shortage of vendors in PI.
BTW for cigs your best buy will probably be buying whole cartons at Makro for instance. They have a fixed price, locally made Marlboros will be like 240 pesos for a carton of 10 packs, for example.
Enjoy PI
the following is a mirror of a site that the fbi put up to find sex tourists looking for **** sex partners.
[url]http://www.thesmokinggun.com/wickedadventurestravel/[/url]
there is virtually nothing on the site about sex, though, and any of us might have been taken in. after reading the story at
[url]http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0511061web1.html[/url]
i did see that on the information form there is a question about the age of the sex partner in which you are interested and it includes primarily **** categories. also, the meta tags are supposed to include words that would cause hits if one was searching for **** partners.
yet another thing to be cautious about.
[quote=jpf]the following is a mirror of a site that the fbi put up to find sex tourists looking for **** sex partners.
[url]http://www.thesmokinggun.com/wickedadventurestravel/[/url]
there is virtually nothing on the site about sex, though, and any of us might have been taken in. after reading the story at
[url]http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0511061web1.html[/url]
i did see that on the information form there is a question about the age of the sex partner in which you are interested and it includes primarily **** categories. also, the meta tags are supposed to include words that would cause hits if one was searching for **** partners.
yet another thing to be cautious about.[/quote]yes ,better to play safe,but again a guy should not be doing 10 year olds,that is wrong and illegal to the greatest majority of people,somehow i dont have much sympathy for guys caught banging 10 year old kids.just my personal opinion
the problem goes deeper than this,the bars sometimes get a gal that is **** working for them that falls through the cracks.she provided the right paperwork that was from another person.the problem with a barfine like this is,the bar is in trouble and the guy is also in big trouble because he is with her.
the answer to this is go with gals that look old enough,never go if there is a shadow of doubt in your mind.these gals are young looking anyway why would you get in a jackpot over a young gal? the 30 year old gals look 20, go figure.
play safe; think first.
b.b.
In 2001, I was in Cebu to meet a girl that I thought was the one. I was waiting in front of the Marriott when this taxi pulls up and out jumps (I thought) this 16 YO beauty - it actually was the 22 YO I came to meet, LOL. 2 years later, I'm in the gift shop with my wife (not the same lady) and one of the attendants asked me (discretely) about the other one - they thought she had been about 16 YO also, but I cleared that up.
Pals,
In So China. For the guy who wanted to know you can get viagra at the Silver Dollar Club on Osmena Blvd south of the Circle and the generic V is sold at Club Exotica on General Mazilom norht of the Circle.
Dragon Slayer
[QUOTE=Pute Nut]Usually I have paid around 2-300 pesos each for unlocking, and I didn't bring any girl lol.
The white skin tax is usually optional. Just smile and joke a little and take your time negotiating. In 90% of the cases you WILL get filipino price, or even better sometimes. If the vendor is in the 10% hardhead cat, just move on. There's not exactly a shortage of vendors in PI.[/QUOTE]
Very true on all points. My Pinoy wife is a born bargainer. If she's with me, I stay out of the way and often out-of-sight. If she doesn't get the right price, I wait for her to move off and then I move in. Sometimes I do better, surprising her. Sometimes nothing will work (especially with those from one particular non-western specific religeous belief - that's not an ethnic slur, just an observation of local reality similarily well known by Pinoys). Yes, if you can't bargain in one place, move to the next one until you get a decent price. Anyone who _doesn't_ bargain is labeled a fool as they walk away stupidly poorer. Sorry, this doesn't work at Petron and Shell. :-)
[QUOTE=Pute Nut]
BTW for cigs your best buy will probably be buying whole cartons at Makro for instance. They have a fixed price, locally made Marlboros will be like 240 pesos for a carton of 10 packs, for example.
Enjoy PI[/QUOTE]
Sh*t I tossed my receipt, but RFC is just over P240 Marlboros soft-pack - on credit-card! Cash price at Malvar is P237.25 right now. Makro is about the same, yes, cash-only, but you have to show some "proof" that you have a local biz licence to get Makro membership, though Makro is hungry for biz so that shouldn't be too much of a problem unless you run into some protocal-brainwashed-hard-head clerk.
[QUOTE=Lorenz]I just would like to know if it is possible to find generic Viagra/Cialis (like Vigora, Zeagra, Camagra, Tada, ect. etc.) in the Philippines (Cebu City and smaller cities).
How much does it cost for 4 - 100 mg tablets?
L.[/QUOTE]
Obviously you've not bothered to read all my and others comments on that, so one more time, if you're in any tourist-prone area (like Malate) you will be deluged by offers to sell you such. I wouldn't be inclined much to trust any of them for anything I would injest, nor would I want to injest any of it, but reportedly some do. Price, I have no idea, I just do my best to make them understand I'm not a tourist and I'm a terrible target for their "sales" endeavors. If you want a *guess*, I'd bet it's probably less than a prescription in a western country, which here is way too much.
You really need that stuff ???
[QUOTE=Cebu Local]Yes ,Better to play safe,But again a guy should not be doing 10 year olds,That is wrong and illegal to the greatest majority of people,somehow I dont have much sympathy for guys caught banging 10 year old kids.Just my PERSONAL opinion[/QUOTE]
Grabe! No excuse for that sort of s*it. Give them a chance to get a few years past puberty! Besides, if they haven't had a local boyfriend initiate them, why the hell would someone want that task? Better, much much better to be #2 and make their life much better than their #1 did.
The other night my (PNP) friend told me he wants to give me a 15-year-old birthday present next time around. 15? Ok, I respect his desire to be good to me (and yes, I know him well enough that it's not a trap, anything but), but hey, 15!!!! I'm trying to figure out how to just sway him into a night out with some 17-year-olds, or maybe even 22-with-half-a-clue.
Anyone abusing 10-year-olds should get what they deserve with no sympathy from anyone I know.
[QUOTE=X Man]Although we all have heard the bar girl sob stories and assume it's all bllsht, this is a seriously impoverished country. Just last week in Cebu I was hanging out with a girl and we went back to her place for a change of clothes. I've seen these places before and it never fails to amaze me. ....
** Hmmm, maybe that's why she spent three days with me, no barfine, never asked for a penny, and no rules except, "don't fk my friends or coworkers". [/QUOTE]
Most Pinays, whether recently from the province, or when they were little, or their parents came from the province, are simply hoping for a better life. In all too many cases, their most immediate desire is to get their first decent meal in 4 days, and thereafter to feed and clothe (never mind educate) their kids and dream to someday help their families. No wonder they look at foreigners as their only possible hope, most often having been taken for an abusive ride by some deadbeat Pinoy kid. If you want a good one, then thee hard part is to pick out the ones who've not been too hardned by their life before they meet you. Then you'll have someone who really would like to fall in love and dreams of some chance to do so with a decent guy. If you find such a girl (there are literally milllions!) then treat her well and if you choose well she'll do the same for you. Just don't take her overseas to be "westernized" unless you already truly have a life-partner.
More than once I've handed a decent girl a few hundred or more pesos in return for nothing more than her appreciation for her daughter's birthday or some very immediate need. At the same time, those who read my postings know very well "koriput ko" when it comes to paying for "services" but I'm totally stupid and mushy when it comes to helping someone really deserving and in need.
The above of course doesn't apply to sex-tourists, who match up perfecly with the hard-core sexworkers at some ridiculous per-shot payout.
[QUOTE=X Man]** Hmmm, maybe that's why she spent three days with me, no barfine, never asked for a penny, and no rules except, "don't fk my friends or coworkers".
[/QUOTE]
Another followup to this specific point. I have at least 3 and if I was to try to remember surely more long-time female friends who have pointedly told me they would not be at all offended if I go with someone else while they're "busy", and offhand I now remember that #1, 3, & 4 tried very hard to instroduce me to friends to keep me happy until they could get around to renewing old pleasures with me. Then again, we're all honest with each other, have real-life conversations, etc. That's what good friends do, eh?
[QUOTE=New Kid]Actually this phrase is actually what is known in Filipino slang as "Taglish" as in "Tag-Lish" as in "Tagalog + English".
... mainly used this to make themselves know as belonging to the upper level strata of Filipino society. You could hear this kind of talk among filipinos/filipinas in the Metro-Manila area such as Makati, Ortigas, Alabang etc.[/QUOTE]
This goes back a couple or 3 years, it may have changed, but I rememer the PLDT customer service menu was "English, Tagalog, or 'taglish'", and I've also seen 'taglish' on an ATM menu, don't rememer which bank. Was amused at the time.
It appears that it may be getting easier to bring that special girl over to the USA if she is a Nurse. Or even better, maybe there is the possibility of meeting that Filipina without having to fly half way around the world.
[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/24/world/americas/24nurses.html?ex=1149134400&en=f1aed1614303bada&ei=5059&partner=AOL[/url]
As for the PNP giving out birthday gifts,Never think that they will not try to set you up and extort money's from you.Never forget that anything under 18 yrs old will get you TWENTY in the big house.And who wants to eat fishheads and rice three times per day in jail.
Think more,Play Safer.
B.B.
[QUOTE=Bill Buxton]As for the PNP giving out birthday gifts,Never think that they will not try to set you up and extort money's from you.Never forget that anything under 18 yrs old will get you TWENTY in the big house.And who wants to eat fishheads and rice three times per day in jail.[/QUOTE]
Depends on the individual. Some make their "living" a bit beyond the edge more than others, and that's not just limitd to PNP but to all right down to traffic enforcers and office clerks. I have some friends at all levels, but at the same time one particular traffic-"enforcer" and I exchange knowing glances every time we pass each other. I just happen to now know where he "earns" his living and how and how to ensure he can't trap me for BS again.
On the other hand, I completely trust certain friends in uniform here with my life. I'm still alive.
[QUOTE=Bill Buxton]
Think more,Play Safer.[/QUOTE]
Yup!!!!!!
Never fall for anyone trying to get you a gal that you think you can trust. What I am saying is you befrend a cop or other official and they might see a way to get some revenue from the deal. Use your head "on top" and you will be fine. Things here are just loie at home, think before you strike and never forget you are a walking "ATM" and everyone knows that you can get money if you need it.
My girlfrend lost her passport in a taxi in manila and went to the police in subic to get a report. She needed a report to get her new passport, and the law there asked if she had a boyfrend here? She answered "yes" where is her from they saked? She said America, they told her if she ever had trouble with me to come see them and they would help her. What they saw was a chance to get some cash for her and them. After all when was the last time you went to mickey-D'S and had a happy meal looking at a guy with a "twelve gauge shotgun hanging from his shoulder". People are people wherever you go, never let your guard down and allways look around you and get a feel for the area.
They take your picture and send it to guys down the street you have never ever seen before. The cell phone is a great tool in the hands of scammer. Just do not be over trusting with anyone even guys from your own country.
I trusted a guy at the maii in manila to fix my cell and after he got it in his hand he walked out around the counter and ran from the store! Thats how fast things happen you never know. From sails clerk to on the fly cell phone thief in the mall!
Be ready, Play safe. B. B.
[QUOTE=Bill Buxton]Never fall for anyone trying to get you a gal that you think you can trust. What I am saying is you befrend a cop or other official and they might see a way to get some revenue from the deal. Use your head "on top" and you will be fine
[/QUOTE]
Well, depends. My long-time neighbor has always paid back every centavo I've lent him to help him out in the past, and he's as likely to buy me drinks at his house as I might if he walks over here. But that's *my* neighbor, when we get together and party at our homes out here in the province. Not only did he offer, but much later when I took him up on it he also helped me out with one little problem. Another time he chided me for not calling him on the spot so that he could tell a street cop not to hit on me for Christmas cash. Recently when there was serious political trouble brewing he made a point of warning me to stay home one particular day, just in case, especially if I might notice that the TV stations might go off the air at the same time as all cellfone service stops working. Fortunately all I noticed the next day on TV was that by strange coincidence some coup plotters had been arrested, and he came back from "alert" safe and we shared some beer, with no further mention of that.
Is the person you know one who will seize your drivers licence, or is he who will rescue it for you from the bad guys? There's a world of difference between the two.
Maybe the difference is that he's a neighbor and friend who happens to wear a uniform when he goes to work, not just someone in a uniform who wants to pretend to befriend you. Certainly be very vary of the latter, as my neighbor himself advises his real friends.
I'm going to Manila for 1st time in December for 2 weeks. Can you tell me the best way to spend my time and also where to meet like minded blokes to hook up with while i'm there?
Tthanks in advance.
Jeff
[QUOTE=Splottboy]I'm going to Manila for 1st time in December for 2 weeks. Can you tell me the best way to spend my time and also where to meet like minded blokes to hook up with while i'm there?
Tthanks in advance.
Jeff[/QUOTE]I spent lots of time in Barrio Baretto,many retired guys there and not very expensive. There are many hotels,restaurants,bars with out and with gals.The crime rate is Nil and the owners of most places there are interactive with customers. Many owners from all over the world, sweeds, aussi, american, ect. Good mix and quite friendly area. Always remember if you ask a group of guy's a question and there are 12 guys there you will almost always get 10-12 different answers. Why? who knows?just use common sense and think for yourself. Filter out the BS to beer ratio and you can decide what advice best fits you.
B.B.
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[QUOTE=CanContrib]This goes back a couple or 3 years, it may have changed, but I rememer the PLDT customer service menu was "English, Tagalog, or 'taglish'", and I've also seen 'taglish' on an ATM menu, don't rememer which bank. Was amused at the time.[/QUOTE]
That's still the same and almost all ATM's I used include the taglish language option. Actually they have no tagalog option .. which isn't that strange cause many of the words used in the ATM screens don't have a tagalog translation. They have to use english terms to make it work.
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MANILA to Bataan ( ORION)or Bataan(ORION) to Manila.This service is a 45 minute ride in a complete aircon equipped ferry.It also has bathroom and tv and a bar for your convienence.The terminal in Orion has secure parking for those coming from Olongapo or Angelis side,they do not operate in bad weather.The Manila terminal is located across from the cultural center on roxas Blvd.you may call for times of travel at (047) 244-6951/6936
There are also buses available on the Bataan side linking you to subic and Angelis.Van service is also an option for your travel needs.
Olongapo city and subic freeport are nice places to visit if a day or two travel is what you want.
B.B...
You can now get your peso's thru ebay
[url]http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&Item=9742553172&Category=4369[/url]
I just found this very interesting. I guess collectors would buy this.
FF
[QUOTE=White Wolf]That's still the same and almost all ATM's I used include the taglish language option. Actually they have no tagalog option .. which isn't that strange cause many of the words used in the ATM screens don't have a tagalog translation. They have to use english terms to make it work.[/QUOTE]
Right. & a BPI ATM refreshed my memory the other day as to where I first saw it, which was amusing at the time but just a fact now. :-)
I have been to Phil 6 times now in the last 3 years and it seems like every trip at some point I will get sick with a runny nose, stomach cramps and or diarreaha or as the girls call it LBM. It usually lasts 3 or 4 days and may or may not return during the 30 some days I'm there. I always drink bottled water and eat at decent places ( no street vendors ) Just wondered if any of you other mongers have these problems and if so what do you take? Maybe its just too much sex but I never heard of pussy causing these symptoms.
Never travel without imodium and whenever you get a drink soda,icetea always get it without ice.The Ice at all or most places micky d's jolly b,any fast food place can get you sick.As far as the cold goes the dirt in the air and too much a/c can contribute to a sore throat.Good thing is most places "drug"stores can give you what you want over the counter.
B.B...
Bill, Could you give us a little more information about this. Maybe I missed an earlier question, but I'm confused about why you gave this information.
If you take the ferry across Manila Bay to Orion (east side of Bataan Peninsula), you are still quite a way from Olongapo. Is there something of interest at Orion, or the nearby capital of Bataan - Balanga? I presume you then take a bus to Olongapo (west side of Bataan Peninsula). Is the bus station near the ferry dock or did you use a taxi?
According to my Lonely Planet 2003, the service is run by Mt. Samat Ferry Express three times a day.
[QUOTE=Bill Buxton]MANILA to Bataan ( ORION)or Bataan(ORION) to Manila.This service is a 45 minute ride in a complete aircon equipped ferry.It also has bathroom and tv and a bar for your convienence.The terminal in Orion has secure parking for those coming from Olongapo or Angelis side,they do not operate in bad weather.The Manila terminal is located across from the cultural center on roxas Blvd.you may call for times of travel at (047) 244-6951/6936
There are also buses available on the Bataan side linking you to subic and Angelis.Van service is also an option for your travel needs.
Olongapo city and subic freeport are nice places to visit if a day or two travel is what you want.
B.B...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=nightrider1]I have been to Phil 6 times now in the last 3 years and it seems like every trip at some point I will get sick with a runny nose, stomach cramps and or diarreaha or as the girls call it LBM. It usually lasts 3 or 4 days and may or may not return during the 30 some days I'm there. I always drink bottled water and eat at decent places ( no street vendors ) Just wondered if any of you other mongers have these problems and if so what do you take? Maybe its just too much sex but I never heard of pussy causing these symptoms.[/QUOTE]
Go to any pharmacy and buy 10 500 mg. tables of generic Ciproflaxin. At the first onset of diarreaha, start to take it and take two per day for five days. It will disappear within hours after taking the first pill. This is a seriously excellent antibiotic and it works wonders.
[QUOTE=nightrider1]I have been to Phil 6 times now in the last 3 years and it seems like every trip at some point I will get sick with a runny nose, stomach cramps and or diarreaha or as the girls call it LBM. It usually lasts 3 or 4 days and may or may not return during the 30 some days I'm there. I always drink bottled water and eat at decent places ( no street vendors ) Just wondered if any of you other mongers have these problems and if so what do you take? Maybe its just too much sex but I never heard of pussy causing these symptoms.[/QUOTE]By the way, LBM is "lose bowel movement." Unfortunately, I've had it on every visit. One doc told me that warmer climates will produce a higher bacteria count on everything compared to cooler climates. However, even if you do eat at decent places, if you ever seen a local meat market or "palengke," even the FDA will run for the toilet.
[QUOTE=Darth Sushi]By the way, LBM is "lose bowl movement." Unfortunately, I've had it on every visit. One doc told me that warmer climates will produce a higher bacteria count on everything compared to cooler climates. [/QUOTE]I regularily drink "tap water". I rarely pay ridiculous restaurant or worse yet bar prices for "mineral water". I can do that for months on end with absolutely no problem. Then, I can sit at home for a week drinking "safe" "purified water" and wham! LBM! I have however noticed that LBM tends to bite shortly after drinking too much with relatives or barkada. Too much alcohol will do it every time, especially combined with pulpy fruit juice, strangely just the same as back in that cooler climate I used to live in.[QUOTE=Darth Sushi]However, even if you do eat at decent places, if you ever seen a local meat market or "palengke," even the FDA will run for the toilet.[/QUOTE]Um, yup! So always make sure whatever you buy, palenke or supermarket, is well cooked! Walang "Steak Tartar" galing palenke, di ba? Sushi and sashimi fish is however a different story since you can't very cook it and call it sushi or sashimi! However, as long as you keep your raw salmon or tuna or whatever on ice on the way home, it won't suffer from a one-hour FX ride home from Baclaran and you shouldn't suffer LBM from it either. Just be observant how the vendor stores it when you're buying, and don't drink too much alcohol that same night, lest your bowels get confused between good and evil.
I think I'll go mix myself some 50/50 local gin & green manga puree now. I keep a supply of Loperamide handy anyway. :-)
[QUOTE=GoodEnough]Go to any pharmacy and buy 10 500 mg. tables of generic Ciproflaxin. At the first onset of diarreaha, start to take it and take two per day for five days. It will disappear within hours after taking the first pill. This is a seriously excellent antibiotic and it works wonders.[/QUOTE]
Yes it works and if you do it often enough, might possibly build up resistance...and when you then really need it for something serious, it won't work. Tread lightly when self-medicating.....
X-MAN thats where the boat comes in it will not go to subic.Go straight to angelis or turn left for olongapo.
Your Choice...
B.B...
I got sick the very first time I went to the Phillipines. It wasn't bad diahhrea but it stayed with me for like a week. I still don't know what caused it as I am pretty careful where I eat and drink. It went away on it's own. The Immodium didn't seem to help much but I wasn't in real trouble with what I had either. I wonder sometimes about eating lettuce and tomatoes and stuff with sandwiches and burgers as if they wash it with tap water it's probably not a good thing for sensitive stomachs that aren't used to it. I would be careful about taking antibiotics too much if it is not something major as you could become immune to it later and might really need it at another time.
I agree, you should not take the stuff like candy. On the other hand, my gastroenterologist advised me to begin by taking Immodium. He said that if Immodium did not cure the diahhrea I should conclude that I had dysentery and start a course of Cipro. That advice has always worked for me.
GE
After the immodium tales over get some Zithromax for the "littlefella"if and when he gets a nose bleed...
Yes you can buy this over the counter also.
More pearls from DR,Buxton...
[QUOTE=GoodEnough]Go to any pharmacy and buy 10 500 mg. tables of generic Ciproflaxin. At the first onset of diarreaha, start to take it and take two per day for five days. It will disappear within hours after taking the first pill. This is a seriously excellent antibiotic and it works wonders.[/QUOTE]I've had the same problem both times I've visited the PI. Not sure what causes it either since I am careful to only drink bottled water and pretty careful about what I eat. However, when the problem arose a week or so ago during my visit, I looked on the Internet and found information recommending taking an antibiotic and immodium. I bought some immodium and Ciproflaxin (antibiotic). The Ciproflaxin worked great - within a day, no more problem. From now on when I visit, I'll keep some on hand just in case.
Yes, I understand that Orion is not Olongapo, nor Angeles. Sorry if my post was confusing.
Can you tell us the pros and cons of such a route? What is in Orion? Where did you go after arriving in Orion?
"go straight or turn left" isn't very helpful. Have you actually taken this trip?
X
[QUOTE=Bill Buxton]X-MAN thats where the boat comes in it will not go to subic.Go straight to angelis or turn left for olongapo.
Your Choice...
B.B...[/QUOTE]
Some MP info I found and will utilize when I go to the PI this coming July:
For the best MP, I would have to say that it is Flight 168 (the MP of Airforce One), especially the “presidential” section which is the floor below the KTV. Nice big rooms. Queen-size bed. They even have aromatherapy stuff. Steam. They used to have Manila Bulletin but lately it has not been consistent. Flight 168 is in the airport road going to Sucat.
Starfleet, which is close by to Flight 168, is also a good MP. Rooms are not as spacious as Flight 168, but its good enough. Starfleet has a Presidential suite where they offer Thai Massage, wherein the attendant bathes you and lathers you with her body. I tried it once and honestly it is an over-rated experience. It was cold, chilly, and I think I got a bad cold right after.
Sylvanus (below Pegasus) sports probably the most number of attractive attendants, many of which are tall, long-legged, slim, with long-hair. My guess is that they are GROs who did not make the cut. The rooms, however, leave much to be desired. Yes they have showers and all the standard condiments, but the place just screams “sleazy” with its worn-out rug and hard matress.
I’ve also been to Skyline once, only to accompany a foreign guest from Singapore. They use the hotel rooms so it does look comfortable, but I ended up waiting in the lobby as I did not find an attendant to my liking.
Others in my list: Palacio Don Pedro, Wilderness, and Goodlife. Palacio is in Makati, near P. Burgos. Wilderness is the MP of Hearbeat KTV and can be found in Quezon Avenue. Goodlife is the MP of Genie KTV and can be found in Sta. Lucia.
Orion is a small town barrio if getting off the hw going towards Subic you go right at the statue in Bataan ND go straight post it to Orion.It will save you time and traffic if you are staying in olongapo or other local areas.In other words it's just across the bay from Manila.Straight shot.
B.B...
[QUOTE=Key Master]I got sick the very first time I went to the Phillipines. It wasn't bad diahhrea but it stayed with me for like a week. I still don't know what caused it as I am pretty careful where I eat and drink. It went away on it's own. The Immodium didn't seem to help much but I wasn't in real trouble with what I had either. I wonder sometimes about eating lettuce and tomatoes and stuff with sandwiches and burgers as if they wash it with tap water it's probably not a good thing for sensitive stomachs that aren't used to it. I would be careful about taking antibiotics too much if it is not something major as you could become immune to it later and might really need it at another time.[/QUOTE]
Never eat uncooked vegetables or greens whether in salads, burgers or sandwiches when in a lesser developed country. They are often grown in night soil (manure) because the local farmers can't afford to use large quantities of inorganic fertilizer. This is good for the environment but bad for you when it comes to avoiding gastrointestinal parasites or Hep A which both cause LBMs.
SunDevil, an excellent post about massage parlors. Good info even though I'm not a mp fan.
Bill Buxton, I love to hear about alternatives!!! Nevertheless, I'm still confused about your post regarding the ferry from Manila to Bataan. Is there a story there somewhere? What are the pros and cons.
x
Unexpectedly, ISG asked me to log in. I'm in east Asia at the moment. I did, and was allowed access with no problem. Which means the password in my head was in fact correct....
A few months ago, in the Philippines, I could not log in. My friend GE in Davao suggested that I was being blocked, but I really thought I had forgotten my password. But, I guess GE is correct.
Has anyone else had problems logging in while in the Philippines?
X
[QUOTE=X Man]SunDevil, an excellent post about massage parlors. Good info even though I'm not a mp fan.
Bill Buxton, I love to hear about alternatives!!! Nevertheless, I'm still confused about your post regarding the ferry from Manila to Bataan. Is there a story there somewhere? What are the pros and cons.
x[/QUOTE]
XMAN :I just wanted you to know about the option rather than to drive and the price is cheeper than a van.
B.B...
[QUOTE=X Man]Unexpectedly, ISG asked me to log in. I'm in east Asia at the moment. I did, and was allowed access with no problem. Which means the password in my head was in fact correct....
A few months ago, in the Philippines, I could not log in. My friend GE in Davao suggested that I was being blocked, but I really thought I had forgotten my password. But, I guess GE is correct.
Has anyone else had problems logging in while in the Philippines?
X[/QUOTE]
I logged in at a few Internet cafes here in the Philippines with no problem over the last couple of years.
X Man,
Sometimes I've been in internet places that block ISG. One example is the closest place to the Marco Polo in Davao. I guess they have a program that blocks sites with obvious words like 'sex' in the URL. You can probably get through by logging in with the IPO number (whatever it is, we would have to ask to find out).
to find an IP number - go to "computer prompt" (under accessories in the start menu)
type this - ping internationalsexguide.info
209.172.34.102 is the response (works for any DNS named site)
anything new on the marines accused of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] in subic???what a sham this is. the gal was a bar gal.
like i said watch your ass. it is there country.yes a bar girl can get raped but when she has multible people to extract money from thats a real good score.
any intelligence would be forthcoming.
b.b...
I've got mixed feelings about this.
Why was she dumped half naked out of a van?
X
She was getting serviced on the base in subic and was caught by the base police in the act Inside of a van.The gal had spent 3-4 days with the men accused of the crime.She was from Calapandayan. The driver of the van was a local and forced to lie about the situation.This was later brought out into the media after the smoke cleared.A friend of mine bodyguard for mayor "JAMES (BONG)Gordon" YES BROTHER TO SENATOR RICHARD GORDON, said the charges are a way to get money.He has seen the reports and statements and it's a sham.
See how easy it is to get fucked over in this wonderful place.This is not a bullshit something I heard it is a true case going on now.The boat that they were on sailed out and got underway fast.Local prosecutors want to try the men in court there.They even wanted to keep them in local jails until the trial.The U.S. said they will be secured at the U.S. embassy until further notice.
When the ships get to the base the guys have to stay on base.This meens the local flesh peddlers "gals" in droves go and hang out on the base "FREEPORT".What a show, van loads of gals swarming onto the base to get some "GREEN".
This is just how fast shit can happen if you [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] in the wrong place.You make a promise over there you better be shore and keep it.
B.B...
Everything the media has to say about this is bull.They twist the facts like they do everywhere and tell it the way they want.It is a serious case these guys have no chance on a fair outcome over this.
B.B...
It is a great place to come and yes I would recormend it to all my frends.But like everywhere you have to play nice and think before you act.
I had lots of fun there and met some nice locals.Just be yourself you can get whatever you want here just remember you gotta prove nothing.They all look at us like movie stars and that's the fact jack.
They see white skinn and they see money,thats just how easy it is.Much different than home you can have the one you want no problem.No bula,Just be a gentleman and see how long the line is at your door.
SH, and the others might be right,I was with dickheads in the subic area.They were all trying to prove and do one better than the next guy.Buying and bragging about banka boats and how much cash they got.Just like home,I guess you can't escape the BS where ever you go.
BE HUMBLE, BE NICE;
B.B...
B.B...
bb: your "this place" post is very appropriate and accurate, but your opinion on the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] case makes you look preety out there. just because the alleged victim was a bar girl does not mean she is lying, was asking for it, or is trying to extort money from the soldiers. to me knowledge you have not heard all the evidence, nor have i, so it appears you are assuming the soldiers were set up. i do not know the truth and wonder how you can be so adamant?
i am curious if you know more about the case than the public does, or whether you just assume our soldiers are innocent. i urge you to read up on the conduct of us forces in iraq (including the recent [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] and killing of the 15 yo iraqi girl and her parents and 7 year old sister) before passing judgment. or the okinawa incidents that have caused so much hatred (and local pressure on tokyo to ask us to leave). or, going back a bit further, the my lai massacre in vietnam.
if you do have inside information about the case, then i apologize for presuming your reasons for exonerating the soldiers, but i hope you base your judgment on more than merely the status of victim and accused (filipina bargirl vs. us soldiers).
it's extremely difficult to get an accurate picture of the case from the local media here. the only "facts" on which anyone seems to agree is that she was drinking with these guys and got into their van willingly. after that, it's anyone's guess what happened. however, all of the ingredients for disaster were present: young horny guys, plenty of whisky, lovely and available women, and a socio-political atmosphere that makes it easy and tempting to make accusations. i have no idea what actually happened, but i sense from the sensationalism in the papers, that this is not going to come ot well for the american servicemen because a "not guilty" verdict would reinforce that public perception that americans still control the country. the saddest thing for me is that these guys probably are not getting a fair trial.
i don't know if they're guilty of anything but stupidity and bad judgment, or if they actually raped the young women and i don't think anyone will ever know.my best guess is that they will be found guilty and that some kind of a deal will be struck and ultimately, they will wind up back in the states as i doubt seriously that the us military would permit any of its soldiers to spend any time in a prison in the philippines. in a sense, this case speaks to the frailty of a viable "rule of law" here, where virtually all controversial cases become the fodder for media circuses and where the judicial system itself is so corrupt.
on the other hand, the filipino paranoia about american hegemony is not entirely unfounded. for example, about two years ago in davao, an american man checked into a small hotel in the city. he attempted to build some sort of explosive device, made some mistakes in its construction, and blew off one of his own legs and destroyed part of the hotel. these facts do not appear to be in dispute. despite the facts however, "agents of the us government" were allowed to spirit this guy out of the country, thereby circumventing philippines law. the mayor of davao was justifiably furious, and asked whether, had the situation been reversed. filipino authorities would have been permitted to spirit a felon out of the us. there's no doubt at all that this happened, and it merely added to the often ridiculous paranoia about the "power" of the us in the pi.
in a perfect world, the american soliders would be judged impartially, on the basis of evidence, and a fair judgment would be rendered. this ain't gonna happen here, and their guilt or innocence appears less important to the outcome than does the preservation of philippines honor.
what a world.
:d
ge
ge,
who knows but they would like us to think they are bad guys,wouldnt you say?the media circus is in full swing waiting the outcome on this trial.
only sad thing is people might think if it goes there way anyone can say anything about a foreigner and get away with it??stranger things have happened.
as for me saying a bar gal can't get raped,i never said that at all.just wanting unfamiliar people to know what she is or was and what she was doing.before i came home this gal was in the paper for some anti woman's abuse thing.her pic with a big crowd of people .she might just get poster gal for how to set the trap.
like ge said the courts are corrupt and makes you wonder is it true or not.i would like to take it one further,the corruption starts at the top or bottom and goes both ways.please dont ever loose sight of this ever.
its a great place do what you want.afterwards all you gotta do is pay.
b.b...
Hello friends, I haven't used the philippines thread for a while.
There have been some very angry posts in the Photo Gallery about going bareback, I guess all of you have seen them. Since I don't contribute pictures I'll post my commentary here.
Viral and bacterial infections ARE a very serious problem and we should do what we can to avoid them, and to avoid spreading them.
Attacking other members who say they go bareback is not nice and will not prevent them from doing so. They will either keep their barebacking behaviour a secret or they will attack you back, calling you a "religious fundamentalist" or a "preacher" or something of the kind. Your self-righteous attitude will be viewed with contempt.
So the best we can do is educate ourselves and each other, without getting into fighting words.
For example, I recently heard that 3 to 4 million people now die each year from HIV, resulting in 10 million new orphans every year. Don't know how accurate that is, but yes, a very serious international health problem.
If you like barebacking please don't give me an angry reply, I'm not telling you not to. What you do is your business! But I think the wise thing to do is to avoid the temptation and always wear a condom.
And I hope you have all had your hepatitis shots. Good luck and happy fucking.
Just my point of view.
If you find a site you want to go to is blocked, go to a proxy site. If you have AOL you can log in and then go to the site.The other option (that I use when traveling) is "eatmoreblueberries" dot com. It is a proxie server. You can then put the url of any site in the box on the site and viola, your in!
[QUOTE=Mahku]X Man,
Sometimes I've been in internet places that block ISG. One example is the closest place to the Marco Polo in Davao. I guess they have a program that blocks sites with obvious words like 'sex' in the URL. You can probably get through by logging in with the IPO number (whatever it is, we would have to ask to find out).[/QUOTE]
I have not used my PI phone since January, I will be going back next month. Can someone tell me if I will need a new SIM card, or can I just load up.
Thank you.
I am planning on being in AC from the 28th Aug - 10th Sep
From what I have read with the weather web sites I can expect a fair bit of rain and thunder storms.
Please tell me this isn't likely to effect the nightlife ?
[QUOTE=Billpsu]I have not used my PI phone since January, I will be going back next month. Can someone tell me if I will need a new SIM card, or can I just load up.
Thank you.[/QUOTE]
Nope, your SIM card will work. You just need to re-load.
Thank you.
[QUOTE=Prov1]Nope, your SIM card will work. You just need to re-load.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Billpsu]I have not used my PI phone since January, I will be going back next month. Can someone tell me if I will need a new SIM card, or can I just load up.
Thank you.[/QUOTE]
to billpsu
I purchase a Global sim card last dec at Harrison plaza at Malate cost is around 6 usd with 50 free text you can reload min 50 peso at a time if you
don't used the sim card for a 4 month period it will be terminated but not sure
if you can buy a new sim and keep the number .
fast eddie 48
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]to billpsu
I purchase a Global sim card last dec at Harrison plaza at Malate cost is around 6 usd with 50 free text you can reload min 50 peso at a time if you
don't used the sim card for a 4 month period it will be terminated but not sure
if you can buy a new sim and keep the number .
fast eddie 48[/QUOTE]
If they resell your number you can't get it back. Sometimes even though it was expired it has not been reused so they will give it to you. Just go check it out when you get there.
[QUOTE=J Boy]If they resell your number you can't get it back. Sometimes even though it was expired it has not been reused so they will give it to you. Just go check it out when you get there.[/QUOTE]
TO J BOY
Is no big deal I will just get another next time in PI is so cheap anyway ,I do
have some girl phone number on the sim but don't think I will contact them
again any way .
FAST EDDIE 48
it seems that everyone's opinion is based on a partial set of facts .... and start blasting off about being set up / she deserves it, etc. please read the online pi newpapers [url]www.tribune.net.ph[/url]
the basic facts are: the raped girl came w/ her sister to subic for a vacation w/ a gi, but financed by the raped girl's boyfriend (another gi) who is abroad. during their nite out, she (victim) met the alleged [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126][CodeWord126][/url] in a bar, got plastered/drunk, and left (?) with the defendant - witnesses saw him almost bodily carrying her as she was drunk.
the next clear set of facts are: witnesses saw her being dumped from a van by the defendant, her pants around her legs, in physical disarray, and probably in shock/weeping,etc. she claims [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url].
let me ask the question then: if she was too drunk to give consent (or voice out her disagreement), then the man who has sex with her commits [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]. this case has been dragging around the pi courts w/ even the sec of justice at one time stating that they could downgrade the case, which is why there is a lot of local furor of this matter, as the defendant is protected by their vfa visiting forces agreement. that sex occurred between the defendant and victim is established. the only question is: consensual or not.
[quote=genuis8]it seems that everyone's opinion is based on a partial set of facts .... and start blasting off about being set up / she deserves it, etc. please read the online pi newpapers [url]www.tribune.net.ph[/url]
the basic facts are: the raped girl came w/ her sister to subic for a vacation w/ a gi, but financed by the raped girl's boyfriend (another gi) who is abroad. during their nite out, she (victim) met the alleged [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126][CodeWord126][/url] in a bar, got plastered/drunk, and left (?) with the defendant - witnesses saw him almost bodily carrying her as she was drunk.
the next clear set of facts are: witnesses saw her being dumped from a van by the defendant, her pants around her legs, in physical disarray, and probably in shock/weeping,etc. she claims [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url].
let me ask the question then: if she was too drunk to give consent (or voice out her disagreement), then the man who has sex with her commits [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]. this case has been dragging around the pi courts w/ even the sec of justice at one time stating that they could downgrade the case, which is why there is a lot of local furor of this matter, as the defendant is protected by their vfa visiting forces agreement. that sex occurred between the defendant and victim is established. the only question is: consensual or not.[/quote]
to add to the drama, the prosecution's "star" witness (who had recanted his [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] testimony) yesterday refused to testify in court, claiming his right not to incriminate himself. the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] victim had tried, unsuccessfully, to have the van driver included in the list of defendents, claiming him as a participant in the whole sordid affair.
remember, that the philippines does not have a jury system, and all cases are tried by judges alone, who are solely responsible for determining guilt or innocence.this makes the outcome of trials more subject to political/public pressure than might be the case elsewhere. i have no idea what the outcome of the trial may be, but given the propensity here to endlessly appeal every verdict, and given the huge hierarchy of courts in which appeals may be lodged, the whole thing may drag on for years.
:d
ge
OK, guys, sound off with your opinions. I have been to the PI several times over the last couple of years, but only Manila, AC, and Subic. I'll be coming back in August and plan to spend a few days in AC followed by work in Manila and then 4 - 5 days somewhere else. Where do you suggest? I'm in my 40s, overweight, etc. - the typical guy on this board. I would like to learn to scuba dive, so it has to be coastal. I'd also like for there to be other daytime activities, and at least a few bars (regular or naughty) worth hanging out in at night. I'd also like to keep the cost down as much as possible, but that is pretty easy to do in the PI. If necessary, I can bring my own girls from AC, but would like it even better if they are available locally. Thinking of Palawan (Coron), Boracay, Puerta Galera or Cebu, but completely open to suggestions.
Hippie,
For the short time that you plan to stay,I would suggest Sabang Beach.It's only around 5 hours from Manila and easy to get to. There are plenty of dive shops, plus 4 bars(go-go type) for some P4P.Not too many freelancers, and the ones available are only 4-5 IMHO.If you find a gem in AC, it wouldn't be a bad idea to bring her along.
Avioneto
Hello Hippie,
Try Cebu because it has a combination of things your looking for. You can learn how to dive on Mactan Island (part of metro Cebu)during the day. The numerous bars and MP's will keep you busy at night. The attitude of the people in Cebu seems to be different than Luzon. But if your looking for some peace and quiet, skip Cebu since it is the 2nd largest city in the P.I. If your looking for a low key place, Palawan is the way to go.
[QUOTE=GoodEnough]Remember, that the Philippines does not have a jury system, and all cases are tried by judges alone, who are solely responsible for determining guilt or innocence.This makes the outcome of trials more subject to political/public pressure than might be the case elsewhere. I have no idea what the outcome of the trial may be, but given the propensity here to endlessly appeal every verdict, and given the huge hierarchy of courts in which appeals may be lodged, the whole thing may drag on for years.
:D
GE[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately for the filipina, the problem is their VFA only allows one year for this case to be resolved. Otherwise, the GI goes free. Knowing this, it should be understandable why the filipinos are pissed off at all the foot dragging, by their govt officials and the GI's attorneys (naturally).
I'm at Hong Kong airport waiting for my flight to Cebu, getting ready to start my longest stay in the Philippines yet, 2 months or 59 days to be exact. Besides the usual suspects I hope to meet any and all who are on the ground in the country during this time.
Is the barfine still P2,000 or has it gone up? Thought I saw a post somewhere the barfine is P4,000 but that doesn't seem right. Heading to Manila then hopefully Puerto Galera for a couple of days but want to check before I go.
cheap diving schools (cheaper than Mactan and better diving-Mactan has been devastated by dynamite fishing). Ditto for Subic (not as cheap and terrible visibility). No dive school at yet at the Swagman's Pool so I guess AC is out!
Boracay is expensive, diving not too good for beginners especially, and damn rainy this time of year. It is insect season on Palawan and not the ideal place to find girls in any event.
Sabang in Puerto Galera is the other option I would consider (seconding Avioneto's suggestion). In fact, Sabang is so compact your dive school could be next door to the bar where you find company LOL
I like Bohol best of all of these, and it is only 2 hours by hydrofoil from Cebu city (Mactan locations like Shangri La can take an hour driving!).
At Moalboal there are also plenty of sw available to occupy your time when not water diving. Plenty of dirt bikes available, At night plenty of muff diving.
I will be visiting Cebu next month. Can you provide more information. How to get there from Cebu, places to stay, places to monger, etc.
Thank you.
[QUOTE=Chevy 68]At Moalboal there are also plenty of sw available to occupy your time when not water diving. Plenty of dirt bikes available, At night plenty of muff diving.[/QUOTE]
Been several years since I was in Cebu so Chevy's info is obviously much more current so I'd be interested in his perspective. Perhaps placing it in Cebu folder would be more appropriate than in this thread. Thanks Chevy
[QUOTE=Billpsu]I will be visiting Cebu next month. Can you provide more information. How to get there from Cebu, places to stay, places to monger, etc.
Thank you.[/QUOTE]It is 90 km or about 60 miles from the city via a 3-4 hour road trip.The best places to stay are Ranging from the most expensive Badaian Island Resort for 5 star,then Mid range Quo Vadis Beach Resort,Sunshine Pension House to basic Eva s Kiosk.Monger along the bars of Panagsama beach.Hope this helps
Thank you.
How about transportation. Should I rent a car, or is there regular bus service?
[QUOTE=Cebu Local]It is 90 km or about 60 miles from the city via a 3-4 hour road trip.The best places to stay are Ranging from the most expensive Badaian Island Resort for 5 star,then Mid range Quo Vadis Beach Resort,Sunshine Pension House to basic Eva s Kiosk.Monger along the bars of Panagsama beach.Hope this helps[/QUOTE]
Hi,
I'm travelling through the Visayas next August (Boracay, Cebu, Malapascua.)
I'm interested in mongering but also about picking up some western girls (that could be there for tourism & travel).
Do you know if there are a lot of young female tourists there?
Where are the best places for night life and parties?
Thanks a lot!
P.S. Consider that I'm young and quite good looking.
Everyone,
Where is it a good place to go in the PI with a companion? I want to go to a resort type place and just relax and explore the land. I was looking at Boracay but it seems it's too crowded and hyped up. Any suggestions and places to stay. Someone mentioned Pearl farms in Davao, bohol?
Thanks for any suggestions.
Mook
Mookman,
This island has cold springs and hotsprings, dirt bikes and italian rest. But you will be impressed with the resort nicest on island and pool is wonderful.
I'm planning to go to Cagayan de Oro, City. Which dentist do you recommend that is more qualified? How cheap is it comparing to american dentist? What would prices be in US dollars? (give any example) I needed my tooth to be repaired.
I thank you for any good helpful info! thanks!
Hey Lorenz - I've done a little travelling in the Visayas (although not nearly as much as some posters or even better locals there). 5 trips over the past 2 years.
I assume you are asking about non-Filipina tourist girls (like from Australia or Europe). In Cebu, Dumaguete, and 3 visits to Southern Leyte, rarely saw western girls. Those I did see were in Cebu and Dumaguete. A really hot German girl at a resort in Dumaguete. But all of the lookers were with their husband or gf. No strays in those places. Of course, plenty of beautiful, hot Filipinas.
The one place in the Philippines I've seen a decent number of western looking women was in Boracay. Didn't try to pursue myself, as I had a Filipina gf with me.
Hey Billpsu - I was in Moalboal this past April.
Two options to get there are private van hire or local shared van (there are also busses, I don't have details on the bus service).
For private van - cost should be around P1600 to P2000. I paid P1800. Will take you and your guest and your luggage door to door (assuming you are heading there from a Cebu hotel). AC, comfortable, will stop for drinks and snacks if you want. If I can find the contact info for the van driver I used, I'll post it or pm it to you. Your hotel can probably recommend a van.
Shared van - from Cebu this is from one of the bus terminals. You can ask at your hotel which terminal you need to go to. Cost is P150 per person and does not include luggage. If you're just bringing duffle bag, probably no extra charge. Suitcase will be charged, up to the cost of a rider (as your suitecase may take up a seat, no space set aside for luggage). I was staying for nearly a week and my gf and I both had small suitcases plus 1 other bag, so cost me P450 for the 2 of us including our stuff for the return trip. Departure from Moalboal is at the corner of the 2 big main roads (I have no clue the names, but Moalboal is a pretty small place, anyone there can tell you where to get the van back to Cebu). Vans line up near the outdoor street market. Fun to travel the local way, but be aware that they really "pack 'em in". A van that would comfortably seat 8 or 9 people will have 12 to 15.
CS
[QUOTE=Bumbo]I'm planning to go to Cagayan de Oro, City. Which dentist do you recommend that is more qualified? How cheap is it comparing to american dentist? What would prices be in US dollars? (give any example) I needed my tooth to be repaired.
I thank you for any good helpful info! thanks![/QUOTE]
Okay Bumbo, most dentists in the Pi operate at a fraction of what they do in the USA. Im talking like less than $20 to have your tooth pulled. Cleaning and filling are in the P300 to P500 range in Davao, probably the same in CDO city.
My sources tell me that there is a compitant (female) dentist right across the street from "oro-rama" shopping plaza. This is in Barangay Lapasan. Her office is wedged in between the BPI bank and some commercial buildings. She has a sign out front ("Teresa") is all the contact remembers, something like P200 for a cleaning so other services should be just as cheap. So firgure around $10 for what you need.
Good Luck
Spamhog
P.S. sorry I cant be more specific re address phone etc but that is how things are in the Phils, everybody knows the person, where they are but addresses are abstract.
[QUOTE=Mookman]Everyone,
Where is it a good place to go in the PI with a companion? I want to go to a resort type place and just relax and explore the land. I was looking at Boracay but it seems it's too crowded and hyped up. Any suggestions and places to stay. Someone mentioned Pearl farms in Davao, bohol?
Thanks for any suggestions.
Mook[/QUOTE]
Mook:
I was in Boracay about two months past, I think I posted something about it in other areas thread mid June(?) Personally, I would avoid Boracay even with a companion, and I seriously suggest you bring a companion as mongering was at a bare bones minimum. To me it was expensive, even though off season. I stayed at the cocomangas resort which was sort of quiet but anything you want to do in the way of entertainment is expensive, my angel wanted to ride a jet ski so it was P3800 for a half hour.
I'm going to suggest three places all of which I have visited within the past six months. I also suggest you do bring your own squeeze as local talent is sparse and all the other horney lads around you are like starving wolves due to lack of available poon.
First i suggest you come to Cebu directly, easier to operate and safer. cleaner and cheaper than Manila. From here you can try Moalboal as CL suggests. Not bad, you can go to the north terminal bus station and work it out. Ask a taxi driver to take you to the "van pool" that C.L is talking about.
You have your choice by bus/van of Malapasqua or Bantayan island. Both about 3 hours by A/C bus and less than P100. I particularly recommend Malapasqua as it is VERY economical and quiet, few western tourists, very laid back and very friendly.(Get the Bust to Maya port then private banca tot he island). You can do most of the diving/scuba/fishing stuff one usually does anywhere else but cheaper. Small place you can hike around the island in about an hour (I did).
Second choice is Bohol, Jet boat 2 hrs from Cebu Wharf. Not the mad house Boracay is but a level or two below it. Check out a place called Flower Garden for a good rate, You can explore in land to chocolate hills and a few old churchs, also see the tarsier monkey along with a river boat ride but you have to hire a driver.
Third from Cebu check out tran asia or superferry for their special float to Camiguin island which is near CDO city. Great place, very freidnly people here and plenty to do if you want but laid bakc enough if you don't. U can climb a volcano or snokel the under water grave yard.
regards
Spam hog
Mook, Pearl Farm near Davao is worth a visit. You get there by boat from downtown Davao. It has bungalows on stilts on a private beach. There is a central area with a bar and restaurant, pool etc. They also have diving.
There appeared to be a very limited number of cottages and the place was serene when I daytripped there a few years ago. The facilities are very very nice.
Its quiet and you'll have to bring someone. You will sleep, swim, eat, dive, and bang your girl 'al fresco' if you like, on the private beach. Very relaxing.
Don
[QUOTE=Dashing Don]Mook, Pearl Farm near Davao is worth a visit. You get there by boat from downtown Davao. It has bungalows on stilts on a private beach. There is a central area with a bar and restaurant, pool etc. They also have diving.
There appeared to be a very limited number of cottages and the place was serene when I daytripped there a few years ago. The facilities are very very nice.
Its quiet and you'll have to bring someone. You will sleep, swim, eat, dive, and bang your girl 'al fresco' if you like, on the private beach. Very relaxing.
Don[/QUOTE]
The Pearl Farm is as Don described, and it would be an okay sort of place if the prices were not so ridiculous. The last time I checked. double rooms were going for almost $200 a night, and that skews the value:quality ratio to the negative. This is not a very well-equipped resort in the sense that there are no jet skis, or boats or any of the other amenities that you would normally associate with a resort hotel that charges these kinds of prices. The diving is operated by Wind and Wave, a private concession, and costs extra. Finally, the beach is just average. It's not very wide and not very long.
All in all, though it's a nice get away, it doesn't offer much in the way of value for money in my opinion.
:D
GE
Two hundred dollars a night is a little expensive but extra activities like jet skiing etc always cost more, in any resort anywhere. I've never seen a place that includes this stuff in the nightly rate.
I've often wondered why there is little tourism in PI and have reserved judgment because as yet, I haven't been to Boracay which supposedly has great beaches. Within 4 hours of NYC we have fabulous beaches in the Caribbean and truth be told, the beaches that I saw in Bohol (Alona and the other one by the Bohol Beach Resort) had sand that was difficult to walk on. It wasn't grainy as much as 'pebbly'. Balicansig island had sand that was very difficult to walk on because of the pebbles. Pearl Farm's beach was of the same subpar quality that I had seen in Bohol and Sabang, but I put it down to the PI. By now, I assume that the PI doesn't have the same quality of beaches that other places have and that is one of the reasons that there is less tourism there than other places.
Don
[QUOTE=Dashing Don]Two hundred dollars a night is a little expensive but extra activities like jet skiing etc always cost more, in any resort anywhere. I've never seen a place that includes this stuff in the nightly rate.
I've often wondered why there is little tourism in PI and have reserved judgment because as yet, I haven't been to Boracay which supposedly has great beaches. Within 4 hours of NYC we have fabulous beaches in the Caribbean and truth be told, the beaches that I saw in Bohol (Alona and the other one by the Bohol Beach Resort) had sand that was difficult to walk on. It wasn't grainy as much as 'pebbly'. Balicansig island had sand that was very difficult to walk on because of the pebbles. Pearl Farm's beach was of the same subpar quality that I had seen in Bohol and Sabang, but I put it down to the PI. By now, I assume that the PI doesn't have the same quality of beaches that other places have and that is one of the reasons that there is less tourism there than other places.
Don[/QUOTE]
Agreed about beaches in Phils. A warning about Boracay beach, I lay on it for 30 minutes and was bitten to hell by sandflies. Had to take medication and had a miserable subsequent 7 days. My doc in Hong Kong even gave me antibiotics to prevent secondary infections...
Whats the deal with this place?? I have never been there and the Mrs, wants me to go stay there with her.I would like some input on where to stay and what to do in Baguio.My feeling is she wants to keep me away from the bar gals so take the asshole "ME" to the hills.
I am gonna hit the area 4-5 days before she knows I am in town so I can let off some steam with the party gals in Makati.I will then move to another hotel the day before she gets into town.YES PLEASE REMEMBER THEY ALL TALK AND SHE WOULD SURELY FIND OUT I ARRIVED 4-5 DAYS EARLEY.
Also what about CEBU,what about the waterfront in this area.Is this a good choice or can you guys recommend a clean quiet place not to far off the beaten path.
THANKS, PLAY SAFE,
B.B...
IMHO Baguio is WAY overrated. The main appeal is the chance to escape the oppressive heat and humidity on the coast (and as the passageway to the awesome Halsema highway to Bontoc, Banaue etc.). Their season is more February-May ("hot" season) and it is VERY rainy in Northern Luzon during the other months.
Bohol has superlative SCUBADIVING, but not superlative beaches. Yes Boracay's World Famous White Beach (ranked #1 in the World by many travel magazines) is spectacular, but the PI has LOADS of good beaches. Very few are anywhere near Luzon however (#1 exception is Pagudpud in the VERY far far north of Illocos Norte). Palawan and Mindanao are both LOADED with fine beaches, but they are far from the World of neon lit gogo bars. I have been to several upscale beach resorts in El Nido and Dakak (Dipolog area). ShangriLa beach on Mactan is damn nice if you need to be close to gogo bars (they import the sand, as do Costabella, Maribago and some of the others!)
But great beach resorts also exist for those who do not spend like the Japanese (main customers at Dakak & El Nido), but they are less fancy.
Pururan on Catanduanes (Bicol region) and Lajaonsa (in the Siargao Islands off Surigao City) are two of my favorites. Great places to BRING a girl, not so great for FINDING one (though I did have a half Black, half Filipina (father was US solider) local girl come to my bungalow at night and provide great bb service several times. I will try and scan the pictures as it has been long enough I would not feel funny about posting them here.
SURFER,
I have been told SIARGAO is great and also beautiful.What is the area sporting In the way of hotels?? What is the average price as you remember and Yes I need aircon.Clean air-con and quiet is what I want this trip me and the wife only no monkey business this trip.Arive Saturday depart for home Sept 28.
Thanks again,
B.B...
BB: As it has been several years since I have been out there, I am not the best guy to ask about Hotels situation. Costs are VERY reasonable, you can count on that. But it is VERY difficult to get out there requiring a long trip on a banca from Surigao city. Maybe there is a flight by now to General Luna (there was an airstrip up island but no commercial flights)
Most the foreigners going out there are surfers, but the Frenchman who owns (or OWNED back then) Lajanosa is not just for surfers.
[QUOTE=Bill Buxton]Whats the deal with this place?? I have never been there and the Mrs, wants me to go stay there with her.I would like some input on where to stay and what to do in Baguio.My feeling is she wants to keep me away from the bar gals so take the asshole "ME" to the hills.
I am gonna hit the area 4-5 days before she knows I am in town so I can let off some steam with the party gals in Makati.I will then move to another hotel the day before she gets into town.YES PLEASE REMEMBER THEY ALL TALK AND SHE WOULD SURELY FIND OUT I ARRIVED 4-5 DAYS EARLEY.
Also what about CEBU,what about the waterfront in this area.Is this a good choice or can you guys recommend a clean quiet place not to far off the beaten path.
THANKS, PLAY SAFE,
B.B...[/QUOTE]
Just a few suggestions for B.B. You refer to the "waterfront" and staying near there. I dont know if you mean the waterfront hotel (which is no where near the water) which is IMHO the best place in Cebu the Marriot not withstanding, or if you are asking about a hotel closer to the real waterfront.
I would suggest you disregard the later as the waterfront (wharf) area
in Cebu is a kind of lousy, you might find a short time hotel there but nothing like what you are looking for. I would suggest if you do not wish to stay at the waterfront hotel you look into Regal park business hotel which is DIRECTLY across from Ayala Mall, you can walk to it,not a bad place it runs about P1400 a night for a basic room probably higher for a delux. Also check out the Richmond hotel, prices a bit cheaper, both are within walking distance of Ayala Mall and everything is within a few block of Waterfront hotel and its casino Filipino.
Now if you are interested in Sarigao, you can take the overnight ferry from Cebu to Surigao city, from there you get a jet boat to Dapa Isl/ Sarigao this is the prime sufing area. No taxi's on the island so you have to hire a guy with a motorcycle, he can take you to the "resort" area. Most of these places (two years ago) were owned by foreigners and their local wives. I recall an aussie and an Englishman who had small places with cottages or A/C rooms, wasn't much like P1000 a night.
There was a more sumptious hotel nearby, owned by a Filipino congressman
and something like you'd find in Bohol, but the whole place is VERY isolated and very low key. The surfing season is fast approaching and the place will soon be crawling with drunken Aussie surfers.
Good luck
Spamhog
The surfing season is fast approaching and the place will soon be crawling with drunken Aussie surfers.
This is the "progress" that I had feared. As Indo got more crowded, more ozzie surfies startinmg coming to the PI (and Siargao in particular) and I am sure the Sari Club bombing and tsunami have only accelerated that. ):
On the advice of someone from one of the boards I monitor, I joined Cherry Blossoms near the start of July. I regret I can’t remember who it was or on what board, but the poster’s idea was that he tended to join the board in the months before a visit to SE Asia in order to “qualify” some women to meet when he was there. I thought this sounded like a good way to meet some women who weren’t likely to be hanging around the bars, so I followed the advice. I’m hoping to make a trip to the Philippines in September. I thought readers might find my experiences interesting.
Cherry Blossoms ([url]www.blossoms.com[/url]), for those who don’t know, is an e-mail self-introduction service focusing on the Philippines, Thailand and other countries to a much lesser extent. China is pretty well represented, too. Because of the way it works – members contact other members by email or to chat – it is apparently not covered by recent ‘mail-order bride’ legislation. There is no charge except for membership.
In the slightly more than four weeks since I joined, I have been contacted with no effort on my part by 2-6 women per day. In addition, I have contacted quite a few myself, identifying them either by using the site’s search utility or by scanning those who are chatting when I’m online. There are so many riches that it took me a week to begin to evolve a system. I have sent nearly 250 e-mails and received nearly 500. Many of the latter have been “smiles,” which are basically winks from a potentially interested female. I’ve sent a few of them myself but lately I’ve send a brief introductory email instead. I think it’s more likely to receive serious attention.
Now I should mention that I’m nearing 62 years old and about 30 pounds overweight. I’m not ugly, but the years are beginning to show on my face. If I were younger, thinner or better looking, I think I would be deluged with mail. As it is, there are plenty of younger women, especially Filipinas, who don’t seem to give a damn. (I think they really want to get out of there, or at least move up.)
I should also say that I have been pretty honest. My goal in going to the Philippines is not to find a bride but to scout out potential places for retirement. I say in my profile that I’m recovering from a bad relationship and not entirely sure I’m ready for another. That just makes some of them want to mother me.
What I’m trying to say is that I’m not trying to lay a line on the ones I’ve talked to. I’m a good writer and a pretty fair conversationalist, so I come off well, but I don’t lie (much) or pretend (much). If they ask if I’m talking to others, I tell them I am, although I don’t say how many. Frankly, it would be too complicated to maintain lies with so many women. The only way through the maze is to have a simple story and stick to it.
At this point, I wish I’d waited another month or even more before joining. I now have a group of six to twelve good prospects. While I don’t get into talking dirty with them, several had volunteered to be my “guide” when I come and three have been pretty clear what they mean. For example, here’s part of a chat from Sunday morning:
Her: yes ido anything 4 my love
Me: Oh really
Her: yes
Me: I may make you prove that
Her: yes
Me: So you like to make love?
Her: yes y not
Me: Good answer. Why not, indeed
Her: im reallly realy want make love wth u
Me: I'm thinking of things I'd like to do with you
Her: really
Her: love u
Me: You might even like it
Her: yes
Or this, from an email:
“One of my dreams is to see the whole part of my country, and to travel around the world. If you need a tour guide and a companion I am willingly go with you. Please…”
This is my most recent contact:
Me: But you'd guide me, right?
Her: yes
Her: open arms
Me: Just in case I couldn't figure out what to do with a pretty woman?
Her: lol
Me: I'm not THAT old
Her: ok
Her: u mean ur sexually active yet?
Her: excuse for that
Her: ok
Her: just asking.?
Me: There is no excuse for that
Me: except...
Her: ?
Me: Active
Her: o ic
Me: And you, my dear?
Me: Are you old enough?
Her: matured enough
Her: lol
My biggest problem at this point is how to schedule them all. In fact, I can’t. As the date gets closer, I’m going to have to drop a few. These are all in addition to my longtime friend in Angeles City whom I met more than two years ago. She’s pretty much in love with me. I would be in serious trouble if I went to the Philippines and didn’t visit her. I won’t quote her, since she’s not a CB girl, but there is no question what we’ll be doing when I go there.
Many of the women, by the way, prefer to shift out of CB and continue in Yahoo. While there is a webcam utility in CB, I haven’t tested it. Most of those who use webcams seem to prefer Yahoo. I bought one two weeks ago at the insistence of one of the girls and it has been a lot of fun. As a USB device, setup was a no-brainer and it has worked flawlessly. Being able to see the girls and watch their expressions adds a great deal to the experience. On more than one occasion it has also helped me spot that a girl was talking to at least two guys at the same time. I don’t do that and I don’t allow it.
The women who have contacted me can be categorized several ways. First, there are the obvious nos – women who are over 40, overweight, sometimes both. For the purposes of this trip, I’ve also ruled out women who are not in the Philippines, although I occasionally chat with two women from Thailand. I’ve been contacted by several very attractive Chinese women, some in Hong Kong but most from the mainland.
Some of the girls are scammers who want money. One has pictures of two different women in her profile (CB has room for three). In one bad stretch, three out of five new contacts hit me up for money in the first chat. My usual response is that I’m old but not stupid. Some are apologetic and keep talking. Others go away. Either way is fine with me. One girl claimed to be an orphan who lives in a church sanctuary and bathes in the restrooms. It might be true, but her picture is awfully pretty. It’s hard to believe she hasn’t found an alternate way to get money.
Another girl – the first quoted above – has persisted, politely but definitely wanting me to buy her a webcam for home. Since she’s also one of my “volunteers,” I may give in, but I’ll send her the webcam, not the money to buy one. She went to an Internet café (dressed up for me) and it’s the same girl as her Yahoo Messenger picture. She also moved the camera around to make sure I got a good look at her. {Late news: Yesterday she announced that she was relocating to Cebu. I’m glad I didn’t buy a camera for her sister’s computer.)
To reduce the correspondence workload, I’ve generally ignored anyone who doesn’t have a picture and anyone who sends me a “smile” instead of a letter. If they have a hot profile picture and there are no turn-offs in their self-description (“Want God-fearing man to support me and two children”), I sometimes violate my own rules. Some of them are so dang pretty.
Oddly enough, it’s the 18-year-old girls who most often say that age doesn’t matter. I always tell them that it actually does, but that I’m willing to trade a little of my experience for some of their youth. So far, I’m not seriously contemplating hooking up with any of the younger ones. My preferred age is around 25 -- old enough to have some experience. The last thing I want is a “vergen” as one girl described herself.
The hardest part is keeping it all straight. I save copies of both emails and chats, naming them with the girl’s first name, the date, and either “To” or “From.” This works pretty well except that some of the girls have several names and it can get confusing. For example, one girl is Marian but her Yahoo chat name is Marina plus a last name and on CB she has two other names. Sometimes, when I launch a chat, I have to scramble to remember who I’m talking with and what I know about them.
I’ll have an update before I leave. Things have already changed since I started writing this. And, of course, there will be lots more to say after I come back from my September trip. It could be a lot of fun or a real letdown. Since I’ll be traveling to parts of the Philippines that I haven’t seen, it will be interesting scenery even if the girls don’t live up to expectations. I’m pretty sure at least some of them will.
Titmouse
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Titmouse let me echo your thoughts and report. Last year i followed the same routine, meeting a lot of good looking girls in Filipina Heart and talking and viewing them via the webcam and Yahoo Messenger. same experience with me - lots hit you for money on the first chat, some take longer, say the second or third chat - but the request usually comes sooner or later.
When I travelled to Manila last December I had intentions of hooking up with a couple of them but found it was so easy at LA cafe and just generally picking up at the malls etc that it was easier not to get tied down to one girl cos I was only there for about 9 days.
What has happened since my return has been that I have continued in contact with several of them and when i return again this december i intend to try hooking up with the one girl for a few days, just to see how it goes.
All of my contacts on FH and now also on Cherry Blossoms give their cell no. readily so contact when I get back will be easy.
But you are spot on with your analysis of them having different pics and different names. My advice to all newcomers is take your time - don't go for the first girl who smiles at you - you can't miss out and the choice is staggering! really its only once you've experienced it that you really appreciate it. Good luck!
Titmouse
I did the same stuff you are doing before my first trip. I found it to be a waste of time. It is too much hassel to get the girls this way. The scheduling, the pretending they aren't screwing you for money. Also they are generally not as good looking as the bar girls - there is a reason they are not working in the bars - too old usually but it could be STDs. Just go to AC and enjoy the barhopping. You get to choose in person from 100s of girls.
Anyway that's my $ .02 worth.
J Boy - Thanks. You may be right, but I won't know unless I try it. I've been to Angeles City and will go back this trip to meet a repeater from the last trip whom I expect to take very good care of me. So I won't exactly be dying of lust by the time I head out to other places.
And these girls aren't ugly, not the ones I've talked to online. Not 10s, to be sure, but all are at least solid 8s. The two I haven't chatted might be a surprise, but I will be in cities where I can drop them and go monger, so.
'Mouse
When Pete said the choice is staggering, he wasn't exaggerating. Just on Cherry Blossoms, just Filipinas, just age 21-35, just non-smokers, just without children -- I matched with more than 2000 members. Well more than half of them say they don't care about age. It's more than I can get a handle on. I pick one in a hundred to send a note to. And my hands are so full at present that I've quit doing that. I MAY respond to a good first contact note.
This wealth of opportunity is in addition, of course, to all those in the business (which may overlap somewhat with CB) and the many, many, many who are neither in the business nor on CB. Truly staggering.
Maybe I'll be proved wrong, but I don't think the majority of the girls on CB are scammers. Several have made it clear in various ways that they're in tight circumstances, but only two have made direct pitches for money. Most have made a point not to ask for anything. In one case, when I began to hint to one girl that it might be worth it to send her some money to cover online costs, she changed the subject. She was just saying that she could only be on for so long because that's what she could afford.
And I think I can tell the difference. Some of these girls are just so sweet it's hard to explain. Yes, they're all pretty well interested in serious relationships and most would probably jump at an opportunity to go to the US. I don't think I blame them for that. But I'm frank in saying I'm not looking for a wife to bring back to the States. It's more likely I will live there. And that hasn't chased the more interesting (and interested) ones away.
'Mouse
Titmouse:
For a Filipina, living with an expat in the PI is as good as being in the United States, given the standard of living at which many, if not most expatriates live here. They get to live in a nice house. They get to go on vacations and to dine often in restaurants, and they don't have to worry about money.
If you think the choice is staggering in the virtual world, wait until you venture into the real world of the Philippines, where the choices multiply geometrically. In virtual reality, you're only "meeting" a self-selected sample, whereas once you get here and establish contact with the whole universe of possiblities it's really overwhelming.
This is not to denigrate the motivation of these ladies, most of whom have never known freedom from want. From a certain perspective, living here, but at a reasonably high standard is even better for them as they don't have to try to fit in to an alien culture. For us it's better too, since we don't have to try to explain how we were lucky enough to wind up with beautiful women half (or less) our age. It's a win-win situation for all concerned.
:D
GE
I met 40+ CB Chatters in Davao and more elsewhere and only found maybe 2 that (if I had to) that I might classify as scammers. One was already engaged and was trying to cut me out from the pack for her sister, then when that failed, a friend of hers. She really wasn't probably a scammer, just a really good looking chick with an attitude and I did not need that.
The other girls (we went to Jack's Ridge for dinner, 32+ of us, LOL) were making jokes about her "high faluttin" attitude, but she soon dropped from sight.
I know there are some on there (scammers), just use your head (on your shoulders) and you will detect 99% of them; the other 1% can be dealt with in person.
My take on Cherryblossoms:
1) nobody asked me for $ yet and I have corresponded with a fair number
2) girls with sexy piuctures or suggestive profiles are more likely to be scammers I think, as are girls from Manila or Angeles area
3) I would not rely on it exclusively, but it is nice to have a couple regular girls lined up in each city you plan to visit to supplement the p4p girls
4)I find MANY good girls that are not wild at all; I have not found almost any that look like date for pisos girls, though it may be because I avoid the Manila/Angleles ones
Hello,
I am going to Manila in at the begining of October for 1 week and I would like to ask how much money should I take with me, as my hotel and flight is payed for it is only the other elements such as meals and the girls. I have read some of the forums but so many diffirent prices as to make me think I will need a gold card.
Thank you in advance.
bring an ATM card and don't worry about it.
This is how I do it...
No traveler's checks: too much bother
Cash: I generally take quite a bit of cash, but remember that the more you take the more you risk. Most of it stays in the hotel safe deposit box. I change some of it into pesos at the airport so that I have enough for the taxi and the first 24- 48 hours of activity.
Two cards: ATM or credit cards, although ATM cards are probably the cheapest way to go. I keep the two seperate...for example one is always in the hotel safe deposit box.
One time I lost my wallet to a jeepney pick pocket. I took a taxi back to my hotel and told the taxi to wait (I had no money). Opened the hotel safe deposit box which had enough peso to pay for the taxi. Then to the bank where I got a cash advance on my credit card. Back in action in less than one hour.
We'll be looking forward to hearing about your exploits in October.
X Man
[QUOTE=Macro69]Hello,
I am going to Manila in at the begining of October for 1 week and I would like to ask how much money should I take with me, as my hotel and flight is payed for it is only the other elements such as meals and the girls. I have read some of the forums but so many diffirent prices as to make me think I will need a gold card.
Thank you in advance.[/QUOTE]
Harvey, you're a brave man. I'd sooner sit in the lion cage at the zoo wearing a side of beef than do what you did.
[QUOTE=Surfer]My take on Cherryblossoms:
1) nobody asked me for $ yet and I have corresponded with a fair number
2) girls with sexy piuctures or suggestive profiles are more likely to be scammers I think, as are girls from Manila or Angeles area
3) I would not rely on it exclusively, but it is nice to have a couple regular girls lined up in each city you plan to visit to supplement the p4p girls
4)I find MANY good girls that are not wild at all; I have not found almost any that look like date for pisos girls, though it may be because I avoid the Manila/Angleles ones[/QUOTE]
1) Someone asks me for money almost every day I chat but I just shut them down cold.
2) More likely to be scammers bus also more likely to dive into bed with you. It's all fine as long as you don't have your heart set on finding the love of your life.
3) Absolutely. Have several different sources and ways of meeting to guarantee some action. Try to avoid the situation where you've got nothing and you're just trolling the mall looking for anything.
4) There are lots of good girls and I find nothing wrong with the ones that go out on dates but don't come back to my room. I enjoy the quality female company and over time usually even these girls give it up. This trip my 'success' rate so far is about 75%. But we'll see how that holds up as I move to more provincial areas.
I think GoodEnough has it right, or at least it matches my expectations. Most of the women would, I think, be only too happy to meet someone who could give them a nice place to live and a comfortable life. Sure, some -- maybe all -- would jump at a chance to move to the US or other 1st World country, but there are advantages to staying closer to home, too. Not the least of which would be lording it over her friends. [grin] If I know women.
I don't really plan to get hooked on this visit, just scouting the territory. If I find a place I like, I can come back after I retire [SOON-SOON-SOON!] and then see what I can turn up. GE and others have made it clear that there is a world of opportunity much larger than the limited subset available on introduction boards.
Have you ever been caught in buyer's remorse -- you know the feeling when you walk down the street with the girl you've rented for the night and pass several others who are stunning and obviously available? I wouldn't want to do that by pulling one from the boards and kicking myself for being too hasty.
I wonder if it's worth the effort to share notes about CB ladies we've dealt with. Besides the hours and hours of chatting, I've met CB girls face to face in Manila, Cebu, CDO and Davao. I've had pretty good luck too.
Harvey, did you meet 40+ face to face? Man, you must be very well known in Davao
BTW, there is a seperate thread just for discussion of online ladies.
X Man
[QUOTE=Harvey WB]I met 40+ CB Chatters in Davao and more elsewhere and only found maybe 2 that (if I had to) that I might classify as scammers. One was already engaged and was trying to cut me out from the pack for her sister, then when that failed, a friend of hers. She really wasn't probably a scammer, just a really good looking chick with an attitude and I did not need that.
The other girls (we went to Jack's Ridge for dinner, 32+ of us, LOL) were making jokes about her "high faluttin" attitude, but she soon dropped from sight.
I know there are some on there (scammers), just use your head (on your shoulders) and you will detect 99% of them; the other 1% can be dealt with in person.[/QUOTE]
I’ve lived in the Philippines for a total of five years but generally don’t go to bars. I don’t drink or smoke and hate loud music and the general atmosphere.
For one thing, it’s really very easy to get girls for free almost anywhere I go. At the mall, at the market, etc. I’m in my early 70’s but still healthy, straight, strong and attractive. So I have a preference for women in their 30’s and they are really much easier to get into bed right away because a woman in her 30’s in Asia frequently believes that her chance for romance has already passed her by. Of course a woman in her 30’s is only a baby to me. I can also get girls in their early twenty’s almost as easy but find them less satisfying.
I could give a lot of reports on getting freebies but I’m not sure it would interest many here. For one thing I speak fluent Tagalog which makes a big difference in making a quick opening dialogue. But I’ll give just a little on that, just in case. If at the market I’ll select my target then say something in Tagalog like. “the vegetables really look fresh today but can you help me to select some (different kinds of veggies)?” Speaking in Tagalog (which few Caucasians do) gives the impression of permanence which of course is desirable to them, (they all want someone to look after them and provide a comfortable life) and they’ll fall all over themselves rendering assistance after which I’ll invite then for a free lunch. I’ve never had a woman refuse unless she was married. and many, married women even accept. They believe that older white guys are great lovers because that is what they have been told and they ALL know where this is leading. We usually end up having sex at their place or mine, I take the married ones to my place.. I’m reminded of the old country song, “Older Women Make Beautiful Lovers” and it’s true. These ladies were raised to be very submissive to a man and they’ll do anything I ask. After sex, I continue to see them, if they are good in bed, but tell them I’m just not ready for a long term commitment. Which is true. I have two housemaids to take care of things and a morning hard on.
But for the sole purpose of being able to furnish a report here, Last Tuesday night I went to a girly bar in Santa Rosa, Laguna (30 miles south of Manila) called “The Barracks.” It is a Filipino joint with no Caucasians ever going there. I decided in advance to speak only English so as to be able to realize what kind of treatment the average American sex tourist might receive.
I found it to be very clean and neat. It was past 11:00PM but there weren’t very many people there. There were five Filipino men sitting together at a large table drinking beer, but with no women. Of course they were watching me because no white guy was ever seen there before. so I ordered a beer for each @ PhP40 per beer. Then they were all smiles and I understood them, they were telling each other what a nice guy I was. They invited me to join them so I did. Only one of them spoke no English and kept asking the others what I was saying
The place was quite large with a huge raised dance floor and a new dancer every few minutes. But only one dancer at a time. As each dancer came out to dance it soon became clear that they were showing off just for my benefit, as their eyes remained glued to mine. The place had a total of 12 girls on duty that night, being a Tuesday night, it was a slow business night for them. Three of the girls would range from 7 to 9 while the rest were 5 to 7. The Mamasan came over and ask if I wanted a girl to sit with me, so I ask her about the bar fine. She said they didn’t have a bar fine so I assumed that meant the girls couldn’t leave for sex.
I moved to a private table and she sent a girl named Gloria over. Gloria was 19 years old and really beautiful, an easy nine, wearing tight short shorts, bare legs and bare feet which I thought was very sexy. She was very small, perhaps 5feet only and with long black hair down past her ass. She sat on my lap and I began to feel her up. When I shoved my hand inside her shorts I found her pussy was tight and after I played with her pussy for awhile she became very wet and she ask if I wanted to go some place and fuck. I ask how she could do that since there was no bar fine but she assured me that she could go.
I had no intention of paying for pussy but decided to negotiate to determine her price. She started at PhP3,000 and I nearly fell off of my chair laughing. After haggling, she slowly settled on PhP800. I thanked her, gave her a PhP200 tip for sitting with me, bought the Filipino guys another round of beer and left. It’s a different experience from the Manila bars, they made me feel very special.
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Yes, met 32 chatters, face to face and took them all to Jack's Ridge for dinner, along with a couple of Filipino friends. I was a Boy Scout on that trip, was going to propose to my now wife at the end of the month in HK, also knew it would be better to do PFP rather than string anyone along. We still keep in touch with about 12 of the young ladies, now in US, Australia and Europe.
I met others in MNL, Cebu and Negros, but not in a group, LOL.
Great Trip!
Hello guy’s I need some help her.
I am somebody that always goes to Thailand but I want to go to the Philippines.
I am on my way to Thailand in about 20 days from now but I want to go to Philippines for 3 or 4 nights where to stay and what to do in the Philippines.
It will be my first time to the Philippines.
What I want to know is:
-What hotels are good in manila?? (I mean no pay extra to take a lady that spends the night).any website the see at is ok.
-Where are the good bars in manila or the good night life?
-Or shut I go to Angeles city for 3 or 4 nights?
-If so what hotels are good in Angeles city?? (I mean no pay extra to take a lady that spends the night). Any website the see at is ok.
-Where are the good bars in Angeles city or the good night life?
-And how to go to Angeles city??(Taxi I know but what to pay)?
-And where to change money in the Philippines?(My money is Euro).
-Are the bars the same as in Thailand?
-Any website to the subject is welcome to me guy’s.
Ok guy’s all help is good to start my first trip to the Philippines ok.
Thanks a lot for the help guy’s and maybe see you there ok if so the first drink is on me ok.
[QUOTE=Goa Master]Hello guy’s I need some help her.
I am somebody that always goes to Thailand but I want to go to the Philippines.
I am on my way to Thailand in about 20 days from now but I want to go to Philippines for 3 or 4 nights where to stay and what to do in the Philippines.
It will be my first time to the Philippines.
What I want to know is:
-What hotels are good in manila?? (I mean no pay extra to take a lady that spends the night).any website the see at is ok.
-Where are the good bars in manila or the good night life?
-Or shut I go to Angeles city for 3 or 4 nights?
-If so what hotels are good in Angeles city?? (I mean no pay extra to take a lady that spends the night). Any website the see at is ok.
-Where are the good bars in Angeles city or the good night life?
-And how to go to Angeles city??(Taxi I know but what to pay)?
-And where to change money in the Philippines?(My money is Euro).
-Are the bars the same as in Thailand?
-Any website to the subject is welcome to me guy’s.
Ok guy’s all help is good to start my first trip to the Philippines ok.
Thanks a lot for the help guy’s and maybe see you there ok if so the first drink is on me ok.[/QUOTE]
May I suggest you check the forum previous postings. ALL you asked for is there in detail. That way you will see many opinions and recommendations easily. I am sure most forum users do not want to see these questions and answers repeated over and over.
i’ve been ask in a private message to furnish my technique for getting free filipino pussy.
i may be wrong but i think most guys here just want to find the best looking pussy they can pay for. they don’t have much time and wanna get laid in a hurry.
but if you will have some time here, let me suggest my favorite techniques which is the open air vegetable markets. and it is just so easy. keep in mind that these girls are poor and desperate. they can’t find a man to take care of them because of the poor economy and no available jobs. so when a westerner appears, he is an extremely exciting prospect. but be careful, these girls are submissive and sweet, many are virgins, you may fall in love with them and end up married.
if you are younger than me and that really is to your advantage if you want younger girls. though i’m age 72, i keep my hair and moustache dyed black (with “just-for men“) and since i’m tall, still strong and not wrinkled, i can easily pass for age 50- 55. so it’s not like i look like some doodling old codger. also as i mentioned before, girls believe that an older man is an excellent lover. if you are over 40, you fit the description of an “older man” in their minds, beautiful gals in their 30‘s will fall all over you.. if you’re **** 40, just go for the girls in their 20’s. younger than twenty is possible for this technique, but less probable.
i speak fluent tagalog which does give me an advantage because they seek permanence above all else. but all you have to do is dummy up, ask questions and give the impression that you’re looking for woman to live with you in the u.s.
try this:
1) select your target and make eye contact to let her know you are interested. she may blush and that ‘s good!
2) dummy up - you don’t know anything and desperately need help.
3) you are hungry for fresh vegetables and fruit but everything looks so different to you from what you are accustomed to (and it will).
4) ask her for assistance in making a selection then engage her in conversation.
5) ask her frank questions, “how old are you?” - “are you married?” - “do you have a boyfriend?” - “what kind of music do you like?” (if she has a husband or boyfriend, go no further, just invite her to lunch to see if she is interested, if not start over, with another girl.)
6) laugh and ask her if she’ll prepare you a nice home cooked meal then immediately invite her to lunch at a nearby fast food place like jollibee or mcdonalds.
7)
(a) if she accepts, you’ve got it made. take her to lunch, tell her about yourself, remember she is looking for financial stability, so tell her what you do for a living and that you are single hoping to meet a nice filipina to marry. if she seems interested, ask if you can spend the day together, go to a mall or something, listen to see if she has any ideas. if not, ask if she would go to a movie with you tonight. i usually at this point invite her to my home to sing karaoke and to see my art work (i’m a good singer and an artist and i know this will impress her and/or watch tv but you’re not gonna have those things and an invitation to a hotel room has a different connotation. you wanna move in quickly but not stupidly. take her to a mall, buy her a trinket, or some flowers and or chocolate candy, but don’t be foolish, no more than php100, she doesn’t want a fool, but flowers and chocolates will win any filipina’s heart. try to get her to a private place and start kissing her. suggest she go to the beach with you for a week. i know you know what to do from there.
(b) if she doesn’t accept you lunch invitation, tell her it was so nice to meet her, select another target and start over.
i usually drive my 4x4 mitsubishi diesel van and park nearby. sometimes i meet one so horny we’ll fuck right there in the van - it has very dark tinted windows so no one can see inside, the rear seats are already folded into a comfortable bed and it has dual air con.
oh i almost forgot one important thing. when i lead the subject to sex talk i always let them know i love to eat pussy and make them cum and cum, because while most filipino men think that’s nasty, filipino women just love it!
hope this helps - good luck!!
[quote=holton cowboy]i’ve been ask in a private message to furnish my technique for getting free filipino pussy.
i may be wrong but i think most guys here just want to find the best looking pussy they can pay for. they don’t have much time and wanna get laid in a hurry.
but if you will have some time here, let me suggest my favorite techniques which is the open air vegetable markets. and it is just so easy. keep in mind that these girls are poor and desperate. they can’t find a man to take care of them because of the poor economy and no available jobs. so when a westerner appears, he is an extremely exciting prospect. but be careful, these girls are submissive and sweet, many are virgins, you may fall in love with them and end up married.
if you are younger than me and that really is to your advantage if you want younger girls. though i’m age 72, i keep my hair and moustache dyed black (with “just-for men“) and since i’m tall, still strong and not wrinkled, i can easily pass for age 50- 55. so it’s not like i look like some doodling old codger. also as i mentioned before, girls believe that an older man is an excellent lover. if you are over 40, you fit the description of an “older man” in their minds, beautiful gals in their 30‘s will fall all over you.. if you’re **** 40, just go for the girls in their 20’s. younger than twenty is possible for this technique, but less probable.
i speak fluent tagalog which does give me an advantage because they seek permanence above all else. but all you have to do is dummy up, ask questions and give the impression that you’re looking for woman to live with you in the u.s.
try this:
1) select your target and make eye contact to let her know you are interested. she may blush and that ‘s good!
2) dummy up - you don’t know anything and desperately need help.
3) you are hungry for fresh vegetables and fruit but everything looks so different to you from what you are accustomed to (and it will).
4) ask her for assistance in making a selection then engage her in conversation.
5) ask her frank questions, “how old are you?” - “are you married?” - “do you have a boyfriend?” - “what kind of music do you like?” (if she has a husband or boyfriend, go no further, just invite her to lunch to see if she is interested, if not start over, with another girl.)
6) laugh and ask her if she’ll prepare you a nice home cooked meal then immediately invite her to lunch at a nearby fast food place like jollibee or mcdonalds.
7)
(a) if she accepts, you’ve got it made. take her to lunch, tell her about yourself, remember she is looking for financial stability, so tell her what you do for a living and that you are single hoping to meet a nice filipina to marry. if she seems interested, ask if you can spend the day together, go to a mall or something, listen to see if she has any ideas. if not, ask if she would go to a movie with you tonight. i usually at this point invite her to my home to sing karaoke and to see my art work (i’m a good singer and an artist and i know this will impress her and/or watch tv but you’re not gonna have those things and an invitation to a hotel room has a different connotation. you wanna move in quickly but not stupidly. take her to a mall, buy her a trinket, or some flowers and or chocolate candy, but don’t be foolish, no more than php100, she doesn’t want a fool, but flowers and chocolates will win any filipina’s heart. try to get her to a private place and start kissing her. suggest she go to the beach with you for a week. i know you know what to do from there.
(b) if she doesn’t accept you lunch invitation, tell her it was so nice to meet her, select another target and start over.
i usually drive my 4x4 mitsubishi diesel van and park nearby. sometimes i meet one so horny we’ll fuck right there in the van - it has very dark tinted windows so no one can see inside, the rear seats are already folded into a comfortable bed and it has dual air con.
oh i almost forgot one important thing. when i lead the subject to sex talk i always let them know i love to eat pussy and make them cum and cum, because while most filipino men think that’s nasty, filipino women just love it!
hope this helps - good luck!![/quote]
i am going to go out now and buy myself a 4x4 mitsubishi diesel van with dark windows. an truly excellent post. you are the professor. one thing, i always tell the girls after connection is made that i am a very naughty boy (i am over 50), they love that.
The first thing I want to say about Holton's excellent post, and FastP reply is that it's great to get the proper persepective. Getting an age focuses everything. In fact, if you're too young, you might as well not come to the Philippines. There are plenty of young guys here and most of the ladies know how your hormones work. Sperm back up into the brain and and such.
I have to reply to these posts...later
X man
You sure have become wise during your 70+ years LOL!
So glad you did not let the fearsome threesome (though now down to 2 as Prov was banned) drive you off the board cowboy. You add such a unique perspective that losing you would be a tragic loss for ISG.
I understand a fair bit of Tagalog, not like you of course, and it is so fun to NOT let on because Filipinos assume whites don't understand tagalog so you can hear what people are saying about you. (:
I’ll just pass this along for whomever may need it. For me, age, diabetes and high blood pressure medications have taken their toll over the years requiring something to combat erectile dysfunction otherwise known as limp dick. Up until two years ago I was using Viagra and though I can buy it cheaper here than back home, it was relatively expensive. A 100mg tablet always caused “blue vision” and sometimes made me feel like shit. Worse yet, sometimes it was fake and didn’t work at critical times even though purchased at a regular drug store.
A Filipino told me of an ancient Chinese herbal remedy, no chemicals, it is truly made up of herbs. I was skeptical but tried it anyway. I’ve used it ever since. No chemicals, no blue vision and it has me rock hard and ready to go in about 20 minutes. The affect last 8 to 10 hours. It is called “Honeymoon Tea” and it’s cheap and readily available at any Mercury Drug store. Mercury Drug stores, the country’s largest chain, are located almost everywhere you’re likely to be. The cost is only PhP 94 per packet (a single dose). It is in powder form and I stir it into a half cup of warm liquid (usually coffee). The taste is just tolerable. Needless to say, I keep plenty on hand. I buy a box of 30 at a time but you can buy a single packet just as well. Since there are no chemicals, I feel comfortable in taking more than one dose per day since fucking is my favorite past-time. My two horny housemaids wake me up every morning with a fresh mixture. Ahhh such is life!
It is manufactured in Hong Kong and I’ve never had a problem with fakes.
Surfer, unless you are simply nothing more than an instigating little ***** you could have easily responded to H Cowboys posts without trying to reignite one of your more recent flame wars. Additionally, while you are free to express your opinion that the targeting of desperate women with promises of marriage and a happy meal at Mickey D's amounts to some valuable "unique perspective", I find it deplorable and pathetic. But that is just my opinion.
Slick: While this is your first post in the phillippines, and while I note you have been personal friends with Cowboy's primary antagonist for well over two years, you certainly have the right to your opinion. My point was to make Cowboy feel reassured he would not be viciously slandered again merely for expressing his opinions. I urge you to look in the fight club section to see the disgraceful way your friend Don started a flame war against cowboy for no reason.
I never saw the part of Cowboy's post suggesting making false promises of marriage to seduce any "desperate" girls and agree with you that is not cool. Perhaps you could point out where he said that.
We already get the perspective from those that prefer neon lit gogo bars in Manila, and isn't the purpose of the forum gathering of information from divergent sources so the reader can consider ALL of his options?
Finally, I looked back at your posting history and note you have contributed good material on my beloved Colombia (which we both first visited in the same month) as well as on Argentina. Peace.
[QUOTE=Slick1]Surfer, unless you are simply nothing more than an instigating little ***** you could have easily responded to H Cowboys posts without trying to reignite one of your more recent flame wars. Additionally, while you are free to express your opinion that the targeting of desperate women with promises of marriage and a happy meal at Mickey D's amounts to some valuable "unique perspective", I find it deplorable and pathetic. But that is just my opinion.[/QUOTE]
I agree with you, taking advantage of desperate girls and giving them false hopes of financial stability and marriage, just to get in their pants for free, is not right. To think that some of the victims are virgins makes it even more deplorable. IMHO.
Guinness
[QUOTE=Holton Cowboy]I’ll just pass this along for whomever may need it. For me, age, diabetes and high blood pressure medications have taken their toll over the years requiring something to combat erectile dysfunction otherwise known as limp dick. Up until two years ago I was using Viagra and though I can buy it cheaper here than back home, it was relatively expensive. A 100mg tablet always caused “blue vision” and sometimes made me feel like shit. Worse yet, sometimes it was fake and didn’t work at critical times even though purchased at a regular drug store.
A Filipino told me of an ancient Chinese herbal remedy, no chemicals, it is truly made up of herbs. I was skeptical but tried it anyway. I’ve used it ever since. No chemicals, no blue vision and it has me rock hard and ready to go in about 20 minutes. The affect last 8 to 10 hours. It is called “Honeymoon Tea” and it’s cheap and readily available at any Mercury Drug store. Mercury Drug stores, the country’s largest chain, are located almost everywhere you’re likely to be. The cost is only PhP 94 per packet (a single dose). It is in powder form and I stir it into a half cup of warm liquid (usually coffee). The taste is just tolerable. Needless to say, I keep plenty on hand. I buy a box of 30 at a time but you can buy a single packet just as well. Since there are no chemicals, I feel comfortable in taking more than one dose per day since fucking is my favorite past-time. My two horny housemaids wake me up every morning with a fresh mixture. Ahhh such is life!
It is manufactured in Hong Kong and I’ve never had a problem with fakes.[/QUOTE]
I can confirm it works however there is a warning that people with high blood pressure and Heart conditions should not take it.It has the same effect as Viagra without many of the side effects.Cheers
[quote=holton cowboy]i’ve been ask in a private message to furnish my technique for getting free filipino pussy.
i may be wrong but i think most guys here just want to find the best looking pussy they can pay for. they don’t have much time and wanna get laid in a hurry.
but if you will have some time here, let me suggest my favorite techniques which is the open air vegetable markets. and it is just so easy. keep in mind that these girls are poor and desperate. they can’t find a man to take care of them because of the poor economy and no available jobs. so when a westerner appears, he is an extremely exciting prospect. but be careful, these girls are submissive and sweet, many are virgins, you may fall in love with them and end up married.
if you are younger than me and that really is to your advantage if you want younger girls. though i’m age 72, i keep my hair and moustache dyed black (with “just-for men“) and since i’m tall, still strong and not wrinkled, i can easily pass for age 50- 55. so it’s not like i look like some doodling old codger. also as i mentioned before, girls believe that an older man is an excellent lover. if you are over 40, you fit the description of an “older man” in their minds, beautiful gals in their 30‘s will fall all over you.. if you’re **** 40, just go for the girls in their 20’s. younger than twenty is possible for this technique, but less probable.
7)
(a) if she accepts, you’ve got it made. take her to lunch, tell her about yourself, remember she is looking for financial stability, so tell her what you do for a living and that you are single hoping to meet a nice filipina to marry. if she seems interested, ask if you can spend the day together, go to a mall or something, listen to see if she has any ideas. if not, ask if she would go to a movie with you tonight. i usually at this point invite her to my home to sing karaoke and to see my art work (i’m a good singer and an artist and i know this will impress her and/or watch tv but you’re not gonna have those things and an invitation to a hotel room has a different connotation. you wanna move in quickly but not stupidly. take her to a mall, buy her a trinket, or some flowers and or chocolate candy, but don’t be foolish, no more than php100, she doesn’t want a fool, but flowers and chocolates will win any filipina’s heart. try to get her to a private place and start kissing her. suggest she go to the beach with you for a week. i know you know what to do from there.
[/quote]here it is surfer and i agree that offering the prospect of marraige to seduce desperate poor virgins is deplorable.however we have to respect each persons "hunting" style no matter how one personally feels about it.there is room for for diversity of opinion and style.just my 2 centavos opinion
There is no call for derogatory remarks about my report on obtaining free pussy. There can be NO MORAL HIGH GROUND for this subject whether one leads a girl to think he may marry her or encourages young girls to continue prostitution with cash. One is as bad as another, if one is deplorable, then so is the other.
Let’s try to keep in mind that the reason we are here is to exchange information on HOW to get pussy without criticizing each others methods. I didn’t wish to stir up those who love to flame. Actually, I wrote the report at the request of another member. I tried to send it to him by private message first, but it was too long for the ISG mail system so I subsequently posted it as a report at his request.
Thanks Jackson for implementing the “no crosstalk rule.” We don’t need another “Philippine Fight Club!”
I just got of the phone with my friend who is an Assistant City Prosecutor and He confirmed that the act of obtaining the virginity of a girl below the age of 21 through misrepresentation of promises of marraige etc is a FELONY punishable by a fine or imprisonment of not more then 2 years under the crime of Seduction.So whatever your personal opinion of the matter,it is ILLEGAL and a FELONY to use that method.Just stating the PHILIPPINE PENAL LAW
so now we go from a moral to a legal argument. personally i see no point in this. what is it with these people?
i see no conflict with philippine law in my report in as much as i target those only above the age of 21.
also as far as age is concerned, my report stated, “beautiful gals in their 30‘s will fall all over you.. if you’re **** 40, just go for the girls in their 20’s” there was no suggestion to target women below age 21.
as stated in my report, my preference is women in their 30’s. therefore my opinion is proven to be legal. making the sought after opinion a moot point in itself.
however, while pointing out laws and if we are going to start searching and relying on legal opinions, one might confirm that prostitution itself is blatantly illegal in the philippines. perhaps the seeker of such legal opinions might do well to determines the punishment for pursuing prostitution in the philippines. if you wish i can do it for you, i know a whole battery of filipino lawyers, including a judge and three prosecutors.
ever visted bilibad prison? i have and it is not a nice place.
Does this mean that the internet dating and mail order bride scene for the Philippines is immoral. Isnt internet dating illegal in the Philippines, as in agencies cant be based there?
Isnt it all about the unfortunate economic circumstances there, making the girls look to countries with higher standards of living?
What about the morality of the girls giving up their virginity and having sex with the goal being to get with a wealthy guy?
But of course being moral is a lot easier with a full stomach and a roof over your head.
I congratulate Holton on some fine reporting. The one thing that stands out, for me, is the need to initiate conversation/first contact yourself. I've said often in this forum that Davao, where I live, is one of the easiest cities in the world in which to meet "normal" women. Yet many of the guys who come here leave disappointed in not having met any. The reason for this (at least as I see it) is that they fail to start a conversation on any pretext at all. It only gets easy once the ice is broken, but you have to have the balls to break it in the first place.
I've observed that a lot of guys wait for women to make the first move. Most of these guys are still waiting.Whether you ask a woman whom you find attractive to help you pick out veggies, or ask her opinion about what color shirt you shouild buy or simply ask her for the name of a decent restaurant, doesn't matter. What does matter is giving her a pretext for talking to you. Sure, you will get shot down some of the time, even in the PI, but not very often.
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GE
[quote=holton cowboy]so now we go from a moral to a legal argument. personally i see no point in this. what is it with these people?
i see no conflict with philippine law in my report in as much as i target those only above the age of 21.
also as far as age is concerned, my report stated, “beautiful gals in their 30‘s will fall all over you.. if you’re **** 40, just go for the girls in their 20’s” there was no suggestion to target women below age 21.
as stated in my report, my preference is women in their 30’s. therefore my opinion is proven to be legal. making the sought after opinion a moot point in itself.
however, while pointing out laws and if we are going to start searching and relying on legal opinions, one might confirm that prostitution itself is blatantly illegal in the philippines. perhaps the seeker of such legal opinions might do well to determines the punishment for pursuing prostitution in the philippines. if you wish i can do it for you, i know a whole battery of filipino lawyers, including a judge and three prosecutors.
ever visted bilibad prison? i have and it is not a nice place.[/quote]i was in no way suggesting that holton cowboy is breaking the law,i was doing a public service notice that some people might not be aware that you may get into trouble if you do this.i dont believe in preaching or moralizing my opinions on others,i just pointed out an obscure philippine law.i have a friend who got into trouble with his 19 yo penpal he broke in.when he broke up with her,her cop uncle arrested her using this law and he had to give them 15,000 pesos to drop the case.i in no way intend to start any flame wars and apologize to any party offended.ok cl out
First off gentlemen be CAREFUL of any concoction you buy over the counter in the Philippines at mercury drug or any other Pharmacy. Remember there is no such thing as an FDA here and many drugs which are controlled substances in western countries are sold over the counter here. The current hoopla over the so called chinese diet pills are a great example, there are phenmetrazine based and highly addicitve, one of the most damaging drugs one can take.
The spamhog perfers "natures viagra" vs pills of any sort I.E.
Take PLENTY of vitamins especially centrum silver for men and double up on vitamin E, this will increase your testosterone level.
Cut back on your alcohol intake and cigarettes (most guys do the opposite when here and wonder why they can't raise wood the second time around)
Watch your diet and avoid the fried dishes Filipinos love, watch your salt intake and don't over do it, raises your BP. You might even try to lose weight
Exercise, you don't have to go at it like an olympic athlete but try to get out and walk around a bit if that's all you can do. Remember, if you are not used to it, the heat here can be a killer and you can dehydrate, most Hotels of any decent sort have a gym, airconditioned, try going there if you find yourself bored.
I will tell you guys my secret, in addition to the overdose of Vitamin E, I drink a cup of Korean ginsing tea every day, it will work wonders on your willy.
Re getting charged for seducing virgins and any other such violations of the law concerning females. Remember technically a female is under the control of her family (parents) until age 24, thats why you need a permission slip from Mom and dad to marry if shes 23.
ASIDE : I can't for the life of me understand what some of the brethern want with a virgin. Give me a sexualy experienced woman any day.
Of course you can be arrested here for just about anything. IF SOMEBODY REALLY WANTS YOUR ASS THEY CAN CHARGE YOU WITH ANY DAMN THING THEY CAN COME UP WITH. There are some laws on the books that would be laughed out of existance if applied to a filipino but can be enforced with particular relish and enthusiasm towards an offending foreigner coz they want to vaccum your pockets, be prepared to fork over pesos to get your butt out of a jam and hope the other sides honors their part of the "bargain".
Ever hear of "concubinage"???? well having a live in partner is just that. Your wife can also charge you with "adultery" here and arrest you and the bar girl you BF'd ;last night. I know of these laws being enforced on certain foreigners by irate wives or jilted GF's however no one would use them against
a filipino, especially the rich and powerful who keep whole stables of mistrisses.
Spam hog
An excellent report from Spam Hog. He makes many good points. I have been using Honeymoon Tea for two years with no side effect at all. Perhaps I should point out that I drink no alcohol nor do I smoke. I also take multi-vitamins, as well as large doses of vitamins E and C every day. My diet largely consists of Rice and vegetables, none of which are fried.
I am diabetic and suffer high blood pressure but it is all controlled. I check my blood pressure at least 4 times each day and it remains like that of a teenager 120/60. It may surprise some that the Filipino Doctors have far exceeded the American Doctors who were unable to control either before I came to the Philippines. My cholesterol, Tryglcerides, blood glucoses and blood pressure are all within healthy range. I only wish I’d been this well at age 50.
I’m not promoting the use of Honeymoon HerbalTea. I’m just passing along information and personal experience which others may or may not choose to explore.
Here are the actual ingredients for Honeymoon HerbalTea contained within each packet. I’ll let others decide for themselves if it might be harmful to them. I can only relate that it has been good for me, I take it every day and at times, 2 to sometimes 3 times each day with no problems. It’s cheap and very available and works amazingly well. I can fuck now as good as when I was age 20.
Ingredients for Honeymoon Herbal Tea
Herbs Epimedu……………….0.525kg
Herbs Cynomoru…………….0.525kg
Woodwardia Japonica…… 0.500g
Fructua Polygacia………… 0.475g
Yang Gong Cao……………..0.425g
Radix Polygacia……………..0.475g
Semen AstragaliComplanti…0.400g
Radix Ginseng……………… 0.400g
Pilose Antler………………… .0.325g
It's four weeks and counting for my trip to the Philippines. I thought I would update the situation.
As a recap for those who didn't read my earlier note, I decided this trip to see what could be done via an online introduction board. I chose Cherry Blossoms ([url]www.blossoms.com[/url]) about a month ago. Since then I've been writing to or chatting with a number of girls. Now, a month before the trip, I'm down to five and taking no new applicants. Five girls in two weeks is plenty for this old man.
It's fair to say I'm no supermonger. On two previous trips to the Philippines and Thailand, I've pulled my share from the bars and discos and generally had a good time, but I haven't set any records. Now that I'm in my 60s, I thought it might be fun to experiment with a kinder, gentler ride. Like moving up from a Camaro to a Buick, if you know what I mean.
As things have progressed, I admit to some misgivings. I dropped two girls that seemed most ready to play because they were just too money-hungry, and that's not counting a couple that I didn't even get into it with because they were obviously in the business as opposed to needy. But that leaves me with my five pretty nice girls, all attractive, all at least a little in love with me. I'm going to break at least four hearts, maybe all five. Or so my ego assures me.
That's the advantage of dealing with professionals, I guess. No pain, just business. I'm going to have to be a bit of a cad. Either that or a polygamist. All of this assumes I'm not being deluded, of course. But I'm not entirely stupid, and I don't think so. So here's the cast for my mid-September play. All names are false.
1. Lina (Manila)
Until a couple of days ago, I thought Lina had slipped off the hook. She was one of the first I met but not a voluminous correspondent. She offered to be my tour guide about the second e-mail. But when we discussed taking a trip to Tagaytay and I asked (facetiously, I thought) whether I should reserve one room or two, she said "Well, since you ask, two rooms, please." Bummer.
I wrote back saying I was disappointed and that I had just kind of assumed we were going to spend a fun, sexy trip together. Now what?, I asked. After a pause, she wrote back to say one room would be just fine. So we're back on. Lina said that, having never met, she couldn't guarantee anything but she would try very hard to see that I wasn't disappointed again. Latest word is that she's excited with my hotel selection in Tagaytay and has agreed to meet me at my hotel in Manila the night before we'd leave, bringing her suitcase. I'd say we'll be in bed before we leave on the trip as long as I don't blow it.
Speaking of blowing it, that's one of my biggest reservations about this amateur trip. Somehow I doubt they'll be the kind of girl to gobble on the first date. Or the second. Training would be required, and I don't have that much time.
2. Melissa (Angeles City)
Melissa is really in a different category, as she is a pro. We met nearly two years ago on my first trip to the Philippines. At the time, she was a dancer at Brown Sugar. Now she's a door girl at another bar. We've kept in touch, off and on, since I was there. I sent her a pair of earrings that I bought in Thailand after I left. She might be playing me, but I don't think so. She has never asked for anything except that I not butterfly in front of her in Angeles. That seems fair.
Melissa is in love with me, I'm pretty sure. She doesn't exactly say it, because she doesn't think I'm going to swoop down and carry her away. But she's really looking forward to seeing me again, and our lovemaking will be just that. And if I offered, she'd jump at the chance to get out of the life. But I won't, even though it's tempting, because I don't think you can cure a bar girl after several years in the business.
3. Fannie (Cebu)
Fannie is living in Ozamiz City (Mindanao) with her folks and will come to meet me in Cebu by ferry. I'll pay for the trip and a room for her and her cousin. She is the youngest (20), least experienced and most traditional of the girls. She admits to having "slipped" with her first boyfriend "when she was young" but can't make up her mind what she will do with me. On the other hand, she has made her cousin promise to stay in her room and made it clear that nearly anything else is possible and probable. Hmmm. I wonder how far I can push THAT?
I'm pretty sure I can get Fannie if I want to. The pot is simmering and ready to boil if I turn up the heat. I sent her a romantic, sexy poem that went down very well. On the other hand, I'm not sure I want to have her, as it would be the most serious betrayal of the trip. After Lina and Melissa, this old body may need a two-day break. Maybe we'll just fool around and I'll use the non-satisfaction of my manly needs as an excuse to break it off. Devious shit, ain't I?
In the past week, Fannie and I have made contact via weblog (always a dangerous moment) and passed with flying colors. She's maybe not quite as pretty as I first thought, but she more than makes up for it in personality.
4. Georgina (Zamboanga)
Xena, as I call her, has been pretty clearly in the "Hurry up and get here so we can bonk" column for some time. I started calling her Xena because the first time we chatted, she had her knees up in front of her chest. In the webcam it looked like a breastplate.
We talk almost daily by webcam, and she has a great smile. She thinks I'm funny, which I am. She's a tiny little girl of 5'1" and we were joking about my size -- 6' and 200 pounds. I told her she'd have to be on top to keep from getting crushed. "Hehehehe" she said. It wasn't the first time she has indirectly indicated she's ready to roll over.
I don't get too explicit with any of these girls, you understand. While I'm sometimes pretty suggestive, it's in reasonably good taste. No bad words, no bald statements. These girls are not the kind to talk about it. But they don't seem to mind the hints, and don't mind hinting back. Could I be misunderstanding any of them? Well, it's possible of course. None of them, not even Melissa, is going to come right out and say they want to f*ck me or will let me f*ck them. But I'm an old guy who's had a lot of experience. I pretty well know where they are. I could mess it up, but otherwise I expect they will deliver eagerly.
Xena has already said she's in love with me and has understood that I won't say that back to her, not yet. We haven't even really met, I point out, and I won't lie to her. Like all of them, she's a sucker for honesty. She dropped an Australian guy who was my closest competition because "hes a lier." We're going to a family picnic the day I arrive but she says we don't have to stay long. I'd bet we'll be in bed an hour later. She's the most desperate of the girls and I'm sure she wants to nail me down. But I'll do the nailing.
Out last contact wasn't so good. I cut it off to chat with Fannie, pretending it was a computer problem. Xena has been having a string of bad luck -- some family problems she won't discuss, a good friend injured in a car wreck, and the loss of her cellphone. She isn't asking me for any help, but the endless discussion of her upsets are not my favorite thing. I sure hope this works out as I'm committed to Zamboanga, and I don't know if there's anything else to do there if we don't click. Worth the risk, I think.
5. Marisol (Davao)
This girl is maybe the sweetest of them all -- the best mix of looks, attitude, experience and interest. On one hand, I'm glad she's last. On the other hand, I hope I have something left by the time I get to her. She's actually from pineapple country north of Davao and will come down by bus to meet me. She has a son but will leave him with relatives. She'll also come with her best friend who was her translator at first. But now she's writing to me directly. That's because of what we're talking about. And because I complained: "It's as if I kissed your friend and then she kissed you," I said. "Not the same thing at all." Bye-bye friend.
But Marisol is very unassuming. When she first started to signal her interest, she said she'd like to take care of my son for me. Then she changed her online profile to say she wasn't interested in meeting anybody else. A comment that her stepfather had warned her not to sleep with me unless we got married led to a series of jokes about everybody knowing and her relatives camping in the hallway outside my room while she was in there with me. (I volunteered to order room service for them.) She's definitely planning on being in there with me and doesn't want anybody hanging around.
Finally made contact via webcam last night with Marisol. She's another who isn't quite as pretty as I thought. Her main picture on CB is her at her best. But she's pretty enough for an old man like me. And she's very eager to meet me.
Well, that's the run down. I'm not sure I'd recommend this approach for most. I'm not even sure whether I will like it. I'm not cruel by nature and this is shaping up to be an emotional trip. I'm tough enough, I guess, and there's no way I can fulfill all the dreams pointing my way, but I can't help feeling a little bad for the girls.
It's also not for the verbally challenged or even bad typists. A significant part of my ability to attract these girls has been my quickness of word, wit and fingers, and a plausible aura of sincerity. Besides being funny, I'm a fair poet, which always gets them wet.
But regrets or second thoughts are of little consequence now. I'm on the rollercoaster and the only way off is forward. Tickets are bought, rooms are reserved, plans are agreed. In a month, I'll be on my way.
Now all I have to do is tell my wife I'm taking a two-week vacation without her.
Titmouse
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This is first time here in Manila - doing some call center business.
Interested in the local experience, and from the posts it appears Quezon City and EDSA are worthwhile venues - however, I'm here alone - and both fri/sat eve the conceirge recommended I not go out alone after dark.
So while I have the call center business to attend to during the days, I would rather not spend my nights alone and in this hotel (Astoria, Ortigas).
Any recommendations for making it a safe night out - should I go it alone - any particulars to watch for - I'm sure I can get some real advice here, thx.
allow me to reiterate a previously point. initiating conversation is the key to obtaining free pussy.
where you attempt this and how you conduct yourself, is equally important.
1. never try to make contact with a girl walking down the street. she will be viewed as cheap, be embarrassed and she’ll possibly even run from you. i don’t even ask young women for directions. they usually back away and look frightened, ready to run if i even flinch.
2. if attempting conversation in a mall, do not approach a girl who is just walking by. it is the same as if she is walking down the street. it is ok, of course if she approaches you, but don’t count on that ever happening..
looking for gils in a movie is a waste of time, it won’t work.
3. make sure she is shopping, perhaps looking at some items, then ask her advice on something, anything just to get a conversation started. then invite her to share a pizza (they all love pizza) or a meal at jollibee and take it from there. those places are in every mall. give her the choice. it’s more difficult with shopping girls than with the sales ladies.
4. you’ll find the sales girls to be very attractive, helpful, underpaid and frequently anxious to meet someone. i’ve personally had good luck with many of the pretty little sales ladies. there are plenty of them but if there is more than one standing there, you’ll get no where. either get her lone by asking for specific help on something or find one that is alone or has no other sales ladies around her. it’s helpful if you make a small purchase or two, something that you can use, a t-shirt or belt, or anything.
5. another bit of useful information regarding sales ladies. they are only paid about php200 ($3.00) per day. they have to model themselves to get the job. they must be attractive (at least to the person(s) hiring them. must be over 21 and **** 30. must be at least 5’2” or taller. they are not hired permanently, but instead, they are hired by contact only, which expires usually in six months. for them it is a short window of opportunity to meet someone so it enhances your opportunity also. these girls are very attractive but are little young for my personal taste.
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6. i like open air vegetable markets better. but it’s easier for me because i shop there for veggies anyway. visitors will probably feel out of place and deplore the smells but i‘m used to it.. there is a wider assortment of women in all age groups, and while some are pretty, many are very ugly.
just a bit of trivia. while you’re not likely to try to get an ugly one (i sure won’t) believe it or not, the ugly ones are more difficult to get that the pretty ones. they know they are ugly and you have no credibility in pursuing them. don’t even try! but if they are borderline, it is ok.
the pretty ones, however, know they are pretty and are more receptive to your come-on. asking about veggies or “what kind of strange looking fish is that?” this usually works for me to get things started. thy will laugh at my ignorance and fall all over themselves rendering assistance. after making one purchase, i’ll ask her to assist me at another vendor’s stall and so on until she has almost become my co-conspirator. in the meantime, i’ve learned her name, age, marital/boyfriend status. then i invite her to lunch. everything is so cheap so that i’ve probably spent maybe php200 ($3.88) on all of my purchases. i usually just later give them to her, telling her frankly that i just wanted a chance to meet her. she is flattered by this which furthers my cause. her lunch may cost another $4.00 so i don’t have much invested if i fail and i’ve had a hellava good time in the pursuit.
i rarely miss in the open-air market once she renders assistance to me, but do miss frequently in the mall.
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I really enjoyed reading about the detailed preparations. We have all been there and are seriously envious. Good luck with the wife though :-)
I tried the same approach but got so muddled between which girl was which [Is Lizbeth the fitness instructor from Angeles or is that Irin the care giver from General Santos?] and which city they were from that I found myself having to constanty review message archive to get back on track (I even had an MS Excel worksheet set up for God sakes). Then last week with about 25 of them on the go I blew it... accidentially deleted the Excel / Yahoo archives and other stuff... :-(
Bummer. Now the plan is to walk out of Manila airport and take a taxi to the nearest fish market as per Holton Cowboy's instructions
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I persuaded one of my housemaids, Lisa to allow me to take photo’s of her. I shamelessly bribed her by taking her to the mall and buying her some clothes and new shoes. Her only request, “Don’t show my face.”
I bought nothing for my other housemaid Regina who refused to be photographed. No bribe - no way!!
Lisa is 33 years old but has a fine body, terrific fuck and gives great head and is always ready, available and willing, never married and both house maids live-in, with separate quarters in the house for each. When I bring a woman here, they disappear, knowing NOT to show their face.
Regina also has a great body, 31 years old and has a very pretty face as well, she is also a great fuck and just loves to give head. She loves to sneak under the table (thinking I don’t know she is there) and give me a surprise blow job, I love it! She does all of the cooking and some cleaning but Lisa is responsible for all cleaning. They both do an outstanding job. I pay each PhP2000 per month (slightly higher than the going rate here) plus an occasional bonus. They both send most of their pay to their families.
I’ll keep working on Regina to allow me to take her pictures, it has become a challenge - lol
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In your travels can you advise which country / city in your experience offers best quality / prices?
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Born, perhaps you can see why I prefer women over age 30. These are just regular women available everywhere. I met both of them in the market, struggling to make it with no job. They didn't have enough money to buy any rice, so I offered them domestic helper positions @PhP1,500/month and they jumped at it. About two months later, after the sex began, I raised them to PhP2000/month, sorry no trades! - lol
Lisa is very light colored because her father was Chinese, her mother, Filipino. The other maid, Regina, is peanut butter color. Both are delicious.
Occasionally, they invite some of their friends over for parties, which I encourage, we have karaoke, foods, drinks, fun and I fuck them free too.
My painting studio in in my home and I frequently bring girls there to model for me nude. (there is a huge demand for nudes from my art collectors) The maids are required to never show themselves when I bring in any woman but they see the nude paintings later and are amused. It is funny that Regina is expressing an interest in me painting her nude yet won't let me photograph her. I'm going to paint Lisa nude tomorrow.
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Regina is my other 31 year old housemaid. When I first saw her I guessed her to be 10 years younger. She is really the prettiest in the face but Lisa has the nicest body. Regina's claim to fame is her ability to give the worlds finest blow-job. She is truly dedicated to the task. She is also a fantastic cook, She has learned to make my favorite American dishes and they're just as good as eating her pussy which we both like. Regina is a screamer and when she gets off the whole neighborhood knows it.
She had refused to let me photograph her until she watched me start painting Lisa, my other housemaid in the nude, then she had a shit fit because she has wanted me to paint her nude for quite some time. She is really cute when she gets mad.
When I told her no painting until I took her picture she agreed to some pictures but no face or full body shots. Sorry guys, best I could get from her. Remember they are maids, not working girls.
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there are many reports of maids claiming that they were raped and sexually abused by their employers .while i am sure holton knows what he is doing and the sex is consensual,for those who are not familiar with the shakedown here is how it goes,maid sleeps with employer,claims [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url],employer is arrested and jailed,employer pays her 50,000 pesos or more to drop the case which is split with the cops.the trick is have enough proof that the sex is consensual pictures of you out together,shopping eating out etc.plus if you can get her to sign something stating she is a girlfriend so much the better.holton lives here and surely is covering his ass,this advice is directed more at the newbie.i live near an adb diplomat from korea who was just charged with [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] by his housemaid,rather then face the hassle and investigation,he paid the young woman 2,000 dollars.play safe guys
of a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] allegation, but that is true at any time you are ever alone with any woman. my fellow lawyers say that [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] is a charge easily made, yet difficult to defend against, so the truly paranoid should never let themselves be alone with any woman (including your wife as many states recognize marital [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] and it is a charge often used for leverage in divorces).
these anecdotes about incidents that could happen are legion, yet misleading imho. for every maid that cries [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], there must be millions of maids happily servicing their employers in the rp every day. and how many prosecutions are there each year for "seduction" (deflowering a virgin under 18 with false promises of marriage)? my guess is you can count them on one hand.
i remind the forum that all prostitution is technically illegal in the rp so those members who are so concerned about avoiding "illegality" should never offer to pay for it lest they end up in muntilupa (prison).
note to jackson: i saw several pleasant exchanges in the thread that appeared to involve "crosstalk" and surmised (incorrectly) that compliments would be allowed. sorry, next time i will pm my compliments to cowboy instead of posting them.
[quote=surfer]of a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] allegation, but that is true at any time you are ever alone with any woman. my fellow lawyers say that [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] is a charge easily made, yet difficult to defend against, so the truly paranoid should never let themselves be alone with any woman (including your wife as many states recognize marital [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] and it is a charge often used for leverage in divorces).
these anecdotes about incidents that could happen are legion, yet misleading imho. for every maid that cries [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], there must be millions of maids happily servicing their employers in the rp every day. and how many prosecutions are there each year for "seduction" (deflowering a virgin under 18 with false promises of marriage)? my guess is you can count them on one hand.
i remind the forum that all prostitution is technically illegal in the rp so those members who are so concerned about avoiding "illegality" should never offer to pay for it lest they end up in muntilupa (prison).[/quote]you are correct, however think of me as your friendly travel agent,which i really am in real life,i point out scams commonly practiced but it is up to you whether to follow the advice or not.the bottom line is i have been called to help bail my clients out of trouble enough times to know how it works.if you read the tabloids hardly a week goes by without some employer getting jailed for [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125][CodeWord125][/url] his maid.i believe the latest was a 62 year old aussie in paranaque last week or some jordanian student.
to cite an example a fellow canadian was accused by his girlfriend of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url],he brought out pictures and tickets of their trip to boracay,tagaytay and batangas together with the proof they slept together in one room.[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] case dropped.have a nice day
I am NOT responding directly, but will say to all that cautionary tales ARE important to bear in mind and, as always, using good judgment is key. IMHO most guys that got into trouble took unreasonable risks and ignored warning signs.
If a particular applicant does not pass the smell test (and No I do not mean is her pekpek mambajo, although that is a good think to check for also LOL), don't hire her. Try and befriend her family members, and be GENEROUS with them (the nicer you are to her and her family, the less likely she will resort to mischief). Being a Koriput has its dangers.
Or keep a trusted old woman in the house AT ALL TIMES to be your witness.
Or get a written contract specifying that sex is part of her job duties.
I Do NOT suggest trying that in the US or Canada; a fellow California lawyer did just that, he made his new secretary sign an agreement that she consented to ANYTHING, then the State Bar publically discilpined him for bringing the profession into disrepute!
As has been noted, ALWAYS CYA in the PI or elsewhere. Whenever possible, DOCUMENT things just in case. But I bet dollars to donuts the majority of those cases involved the employers being assholes towards the help. And while Filipina bosses treat their domestics like subhuman trash, as do 99% of arabs (many Indonesian maids simply refuse to work for arabs because the stories of mistreatment are so common) do NOT do the same if you want to avoid trouble.
[quote=cebu local]you are correct surfer,however think of me as your friendly travel agent,which i really am in real life,i point out scams commonly practiced but it is up to you whether to follow the advice or not.the bottom line is i have been called to help bail my clients out of trouble enough times to know how it works.if you read the tabloids hardly a week goes by without some employer getting jailed for [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125][CodeWord125][/url] his maid.i believe the latest was a 62 year old aussie in paranaque last week or some jordanian student.
to cite an example a fellow canadian was accused by his girlfriend of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url],he brought out pictures and tickets of their trip to boracay,tagaytay and batangas together with the proof they slept together in one room.[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] case dropped.have a nice day[/quote]
it's always good to error on the side of caution in matters such as this and follow the advice of experienced people like cl. imho
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claiming [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] by an employer is a scam that happens with some frequency, though for most it is safe. my two maids have been with me for two years and are like family, so it's unlikely but still possible, so i do have my ass covered, just incase one of them gets mad at me and decides to claim [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] which is possible!.
i have pictures as well as sworn affidavits that sex between us is consensual, which i recommend to all. i update these affidavits about every six months. my lawyer keeps copies in his office as well as the ones i have at home in hard copy and scanned to disks. currently i have 5 affidavits from each maid effected at different dates, so i'm not worried. better to be safe than sorry. i didn’t really hire them for the purpose of sex, it just worked out that way and it’s dammed convenient. but sex regardless of how it’s acquired is not always with out pitfalls. a westerner looks vulnerable and is always a potential target.
BINGO! I just figured out how to make a living as a lawyer in the RP: every guy who has a maid needs affadavits, evidence and a defense in case of an allegation. This is BRILLIANT! Wonder what kind of billing rate could charge over there. Hmmm. Thanks to all who contributed to this thread.
I drew up my own affidavits (they're boiler plated on my computer) and my lawyer notarizes them for PhP100 - I doubt that you could live on that. He even makes a house call to do that - of course he always gets a nice meal! He charges me nothing to keep them on file.
I was advised to do this by my PNP (Philippine National Police) buddies.
I love the service of house calls available in the Philippines. For example my vet makes house calls to take care of my German Shephard dog. Charges me PhP100 plus cost of medicine.
My computer expert comes to my house anytime to take care of any computer problems.
My mechanic makes house calls to service my vehicles for PhP100
None of these services were ever available back home and if they were it would have cost plenty.
If I were you I would have a couple of backups in each town. As much as a girl seems good to go it can be a different story when you actually arrive. For example in Zamboanga last week the girl that I thought was a sure thing was a complete MIA. She finally made contact, too late, after I was back in Davao. A lot can happen to make a girl unavailable: A relative can die and she has to go to the province, she can get sick, her family could get overprotective, or her boyfriend could lock her up just to name a few. Better to have a Plan B, or a Girl B or whatever.
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1. Lina (Manila)
Until a couple of days ago, I thought Lina had slipped off the hook. She was one of the first I met but not a voluminous correspondent. She offered to be my tour guide about the second e-mail. But when we discussed taking a trip to Tagaytay and I asked (facetiously, I thought) whether I should reserve one room or two, she said "Well, since you ask, two rooms, please." Bummer.
I wrote back saying I was disappointed and that I had just kind of assumed we were going to spend a fun, sexy trip together. Now what?, I asked. After a pause, she wrote back to say one room would be just fine. So we're back on. Lina said that, having never met, she couldn't guarantee anything but she would try very hard to see that I wasn't disappointed again. Latest word is that she's excited with my hotel selection in Tagaytay and has agreed to meet me at my hotel in Manila the night before we'd leave, bringing her suitcase. I'd say we'll be in bed before we leave on the trip as long as I don't blow it.
Speaking of blowing it, that's one of my biggest reservations about this amateur trip. Somehow I doubt they'll be the kind of girl to gobble on the first date. Or the second. Training would be required, and I don't have that much time.
2. Melissa (Angeles City)
Melissa is really in a different category, as she is a pro. We met nearly two years ago on my first trip to the Philippines. At the time, she was a dancer at Brown Sugar. Now she's a door girl at another bar. We've kept in touch, off and on, since I was there. I sent her a pair of earrings that I bought in Thailand after I left. She might be playing me, but I don't think so. She has never asked for anything except that I not butterfly in front of her in Angeles. That seems fair.
Melissa is in love with me, I'm pretty sure. She doesn't exactly say it, because she doesn't think I'm going to swoop down and carry her away. But she's really looking forward to seeing me again, and our lovemaking will be just that. And if I offered, she'd jump at the chance to get out of the life. But I won't, even though it's tempting, because I don't think you can cure a bar girl after several years in the business.
3. Fannie (Cebu)
Fannie is living in Ozamiz City (Mindanao) with her folks and will come to meet me in Cebu by ferry. I'll pay for the trip and a room for her and her cousin. She is the youngest (20), least experienced and most traditional of the girls. She admits to having "slipped" with her first boyfriend "when she was young" but can't make up her mind what she will do with me. On the other hand, she has made her cousin promise to stay in her room and made it clear that nearly anything else is possible and probable. Hmmm. I wonder how far I can push THAT?
I'm pretty sure I can get Fannie if I want to. The pot is simmering and ready to boil if I turn up the heat. I sent her a romantic, sexy poem that went down very well. On the other hand, I'm not sure I want to have her, as it would be the most serious betrayal of the trip. After Lina and Melissa, this old body may need a two-day break. Maybe we'll just fool around and I'll use the non-satisfaction of my manly needs as an excuse to break it off. Devious shit, ain't I?
In the past week, Fannie and I have made contact via weblog (always a dangerous moment) and passed with flying colors. She's maybe not quite as pretty as I first thought, but she more than makes up for it in personality.
4. Georgina (Zamboanga)
Xena, as I call her, has been pretty clearly in the "Hurry up and get here so we can bonk" column for some time. I started calling her Xena because the first time we chatted, she had her knees up in front of her chest. In the webcam it looked like a breastplate.
We talk almost daily by webcam, and she has a great smile. She thinks I'm funny, which I am. She's a tiny little girl of 5'1" and we were joking about my size -- 6' and 200 pounds. I told her she'd have to be on top to keep from getting crushed. "Hehehehe" she said. It wasn't the first time she has indirectly indicated she's ready to roll over.
I don't get too explicit with any of these girls, you understand. While I'm sometimes pretty suggestive, it's in reasonably good taste. No bad words, no bald statements. These girls are not the kind to talk about it. But they don't seem to mind the hints, and don't mind hinting back. Could I be misunderstanding any of them? Well, it's possible of course. None of them, not even Melissa, is going to come right out and say they want to f*ck me or will let me f*ck them. But I'm an old guy who's had a lot of experience. I pretty well know where they are. I could mess it up, but otherwise I expect they will deliver eagerly.
Xena has already said she's in love with me and has understood that I won't say that back to her, not yet. We haven't even really met, I point out, and I won't lie to her. Like all of them, she's a sucker for honesty. She dropped an Australian guy who was my closest competition because "hes a lier." We're going to a family picnic the day I arrive but she says we don't have to stay long. I'd bet we'll be in bed an hour later. She's the most desperate of the girls and I'm sure she wants to nail me down. But I'll do the nailing.
Out last contact wasn't so good. I cut it off to chat with Fannie, pretending it was a computer problem. Xena has been having a string of bad luck -- some family problems she won't discuss, a good friend injured in a car wreck, and the loss of her cellphone. She isn't asking me for any help, but the endless discussion of her upsets are not my favorite thing. I sure hope this works out as I'm committed to Zamboanga, and I don't know if there's anything else to do there if we don't click. Worth the risk, I think.
5. Marisol (Davao)
This girl is maybe the sweetest of them all -- the best mix of looks, attitude, experience and interest. On one hand, I'm glad she's last. On the other hand, I hope I have something left by the time I get to her. She's actually from pineapple country north of Davao and will come down by bus to meet me. She has a son but will leave him with relatives. She'll also come with her best friend who was her translator at first. But now she's writing to me directly. That's because of what we're talking about. And because I complained: "It's as if I kissed your friend and then she kissed you," I said. "Not the same thing at all." Bye-bye friend.
But Marisol is very unassuming. When she first started to signal her interest, she said she'd like to take care of my son for me. Then she changed her online profile to say she wasn't interested in meeting anybody else. A comment that her stepfather had warned her not to sleep with me unless we got married led to a series of jokes about everybody knowing and her relatives camping in the hallway outside my room while she was in there with me. (I volunteered to order room service for them.) She's definitely planning on being in there with me and doesn't want anybody hanging around.
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[QUOTE=Holton Cowboy]I drew up my own affidavits (they're boiler plated on my computer) and my lawyer notarizes them for PhP100 - I doubt that you could live on that. He even makes a house call to do that - of course he always gets a nice meal! He charges me nothing to keep them on file.
I was advised to this by my PNP (Philippine National Police) buddies.
I love the service of house calls available in the Philippines. For example my vet makes house calls to take care of my German Shephard dog. Charges me PhP100 plus cost of medicine.
My computer expert comes to my house anytime to take care of any computer problems.
My mechanic makes house calls to service my vehicles for PhP100
None of these services were ever available back home and if they were it would have cost plenty.[/QUOTE]Wow, sounds like everything costs PHP100. Can't buy much of anything for that here in the U.S. I might have to move to the PI so I can live the filthy rich lifestyle.
[quote=paulothai]did you make the painting of both already.
if possible can you post pics of that painting ?[/quote]
i haven’t started painting regina yet and it’s taking too long to complete lisa‘s painting. probably because i keep fooling with her delicious body then fucking her - it’ll be the same regina - heh heh
i won’t be able to post them however. i posted a number of my paintings yesterday but admin deleted them. i guess admin does not consider paintings to be consistent with this site and i’m nor complaining it’s their call to make. it’s just that someone else had requested that i post them and so i did.
i did not post any nudes, however, nudes are in high demand by my art collectors and are sold faster than i can paint them. my clients pay high dollar for them and don’t want prints floating around. i can’t blame them. anyway, i have a continuing contract that does not allow me to publish purchased paintings in any manner. i retain the copyright to any publishing however, so they can’t sell prints of them either. so the paintings that i posted here were paintings that i’ve given to friends and family. if i publish a painting in any way, i cannot sell it.
i paint a lot of nudes because they sell so good, until i’m sick of doing that type of painting, (though playing with my models is always fun) then i have to paint something else for awhile. landscapes, seascapes, wildlife, florals, anything or i’ll go nuts!
i don’t try to hire professional models, there are too many beautiful regular women for that. they are very shy at first and hate to take their clothes off but need the money so bad and i promise no sex. i pay them p500 for posing until the painting is completed, usually about three days. they are happy to get the money. by agreement however i do tweak their nipples and finger their pussies to keep them aroused for a sexy expression which does sometimes (not always) leads to sex when they get too horny. i require them to sign an affidavit that the sex between us is consensual. sometimes they get cold feet at signing this document and we have no sex but at least i don’t run the risk of being charged with [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url].
[QUOTE=Steve74]Wow, sounds like everything costs PHP100. Can't buy much of anything for that here in the U.S. I might have to move to the PI so I can live the filthy rich lifestyle.[/QUOTE]
The trick is to have a Filipina call and canvas prices for you, both of my housemaids are very good at that and are very protective of me. They can get the lower Filipino price and they are able to bargain them down from even that whereas I would be stuck with the higher American price. Speaking flient Tagalog is no advantage for me in bargaining because of my American face.
[QUOTE=Holton Cowboy]The trick is to have a Filipina call and canvas prices for you, both of my housemaids are very good at that and are very protective of me. They can get the lower Filipino price and they are able to bargain them down from even that whereas I would be stuck with the higher American price. Speaking flient Tagalog is no advantage for me in bargaining because of my American face.[/QUOTE]I once booked a room for a local expat using the local residents rate and when they saw his white face,they suddenly raised the rate to the higher tourist rate.He had to produce his drivers license,ACR,Residence Certificate before they relented to let him pay at the local resident rate.Go figure,a guy who lives in the PI,pays taxes in the PI is not a resident because he is white?????
I always used to have my wife book the room and by keeping a low profile usually could get the Pinoy rate for a few days before the Hotel got wise. It is VERY irritating to be charged the roundeye surtax, which is supposedly based on ability to pay, yet wealthy Pinoys still can get the local rate. The PRC is even worse. Happens in Africa and South America too, though not to the same extremes as in SE Asia. But let's face it; there are so many advantages to being anglo that you reall cannot complain too much about having to pay a bit more for hotels and hookers. IMHO 99% of people without white skin would give most anything to have it.
The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence. White women envy their natural tans while Filipina's envy white women’s white skin.
All the stores here are well stocked with heavily advertised "whitening creams" - The girls and even the guys wear light jackets or sweaters even when it is quite hot, to avoid getting more sun while riding on motorcycles.
[QUOTE=Holton Cowboy]The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence. White women envy their natural tans while Filipina's envy white women’s white skin.
All the stores here are well stocked with heavily advertised "whitening creams" - The girls and even the guys wear light jackets or sweaters even when it is quite hot, to avoid getting more sun while riding on motorcycles.[/QUOTE]
But on the other hand Tanning Salons do great business during the rainy periods in my native Vancouver,Just like in other north american cities.Funny but thats how things are,I have customers leaving the PI to escape the heat for a vacation,while I have customers arriving in the PI to escape the cold.
I tried to PM this question to Cebu Local but your box is full - I understand you are in the travel business. I will be visiting my GF in Feb and she would like to visit Cebu for a few days to maybe as long as a week. I don't like the beach, don't swim and don't scuba dive. She loves the beach. We both like night clubs with good bands - rock, blues, jazz, we enjoy nice restauarants and a little site seeing. [I enjoy mongering but not this time. GF would do a Bobbit on me! LOL]
What would you recommend? Travel from Makati to Cebu, hotel, things to do and places to see...
J Boy
[QUOTE=J Boy]I tried to PM this question to Cebu Local but your box is full - I understand you are in the travel business. I will be visiting my GF in Feb and she would like to visit Cebu for a few days to maybe as long as a week. I don't like the beach, don't swim and don't scuba dive. She loves the beach. We both like night clubs with good bands - rock, blues, jazz, we enjoy nice restauarants and a little site seeing. [I enjoy mongering but not this time. GF would do a Bobbit on me! LOL]
What would you recommend? Travel from Makati to Cebu, hotel, things to do and places to see...
J Boy[/QUOTE]
I'll take a stab at this one. Cebu is full of interesting night clubs, most popular is the sunflower (Thursdays is ladies night) place rocks on until 4 Am on Saturday. You can try Ratskys for a littel smaller better behaved crowd. Also check out Sinners and Saints across from Country Mall, mostly pinoy but every one is cool, nice to westerners. You might even try going into Lapu Palu city to a place called "The Cadillac club" run by a down home boy from Alabama, they give a westerner the royal treatment. All the aforementioned have live bands and dance floor, drinks and food of course.
You can do some sight seeing, the GF would enjoy a pilgrimage to Santo Nino Catherdral, check out the Chinese temple over looking the city. Go up to the Marco Polo Hotel in Lahug Hills and you can find some spectacular views in these little outdoor resturaunts, breath taking at night.
There are more amenities here for westerners, food, cafe's etc. If you get bored you can always go bowling or play nine Ball in any of the Malls like Sm or Ayala.
Check out some Hotels like the Richmond or castle peak which are centrally located.
Last but not least Bohol is a two hour jet boat ride away, I know you dont like the beach etc but Chocolate hills tour, Tarsier monkey farm, riverboat ride are all available.
Good luck
Spamhog
I’ve been traveling to the P.I. for over 20 years. Without question, the P.I. is the best in the world for barebacking and gfe. I have sired no less than 20 kids that I know of and I’m sure there are even more I’m not aware of. I do support most of them with monthly transfers of cash and I must say I’m proud of each and every one of the little bastards.
Here are some of the tricks I use to bareback these unsuspecting gals:
1) Ask her upfront if she is willing to have your child. If you are a decent looking white guy, you probably stand at least a 50% chance, especially if you are willing to support them in a small way.
2) Get her really drunk by having her drink at least 12 tequila shots before taking her to your room. By the time she knows what hit her, you’ve already ejaculated a couple times into her vagina.
3) Agree to wear a condom but then slip it off just before penetration using your face as a shield so she doesn’t catch on.
Yes, I have contracted my share of std’s but it’s like my kindergarten teacher once said, “If you go out to the playground, you will get nicked up from time to time.” Anyway, I notice many of you guys talk about barebacking so why not be honest and admit you’ve used some of these techniques. Feel free to publish your own tricks.
Yeah yeah its all good and easy when the kids are young, but just think when they be of your age. I'm sure that time you won't even reconize them: D. May be you would support some of the kids or get them visa etc. But it would have being much easier if you offered the girls a pregancy control PILL. That way you don't have to lie or care for anything. And the money you spent now have being much lower:)
I know its hard to pursue that line. But I have done it and it takes time for a women to understand the stuff. But once they agree. I go full blown in their pussies.
There is a pill which you insert inside the vagina and its kills the semens after few hours. And its dilutes inside the pussy and becomes liquid after some time. No worries after momentary bliss: D
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I appreciate the honesty but quite mind boggling. 20 kids, monthly transfers of cash and STD's-a-plenty? Wow.
I've found barebacking in the PI to be the norm and I'm usually the one insisting on a condom but my condom use has less to do with getting the girl pregnant and more to do with contracting STD's. It's hard to monger when you've got a big blister on your unit.
Guinness
I’m afraid you guys are 100% right about the risks of barebacking. This is the reason I never kick a fair skinned shoe shine boy while walking down the street since I may be related. However, I believe I am benefiting the gene pool by having as many kids as possible in the P.I. before I die. Anyone who has been to the P.I. would probably understand what I mean. In addition, most of you know that a fair skinned citizen has a leg up in their society which is an added benefit in my mind.
Regarding the std’s, you name it I’ve had it. I’ve never had an HIV test so I have no clue about that one but all the others I plead guilty. The most annoying ones are Herpes and Genital Warts since it takes a few weeks before I’m back in action. I usually don’t get the warts treated until I have several on my cock. In fact, during my last trip to the Dermatologist he referred to me as “Mr. Corncob” since there were so many warts he needed to burn off with a laser. I refer to it as the cost of doing business.
[QUOTE=Bareback Bill]Regarding the std’s, you name it I’ve had it. I’ve never had an HIV test so I have no clue about that one but all the others I plead guilty. The most annoying ones are Herpes and Genital Warts since it takes a few weeks before I’m back in action. I usually don’t get the warts treated until I have several on my cock. .[/QUOTE]Unfortunatrely, I have to tell you that herpes and warts are entry door for hiv the risk of contracting hiv is not that great on a healthy dick, they say that one in a hundred is a fair stats but with some outside lesion on your dick the risk is greatly increased perhaps I would said one in 5 or 10. Who knows?
But the sadest in that is not you my friend it is the poor girls who is getting bonked all my sympathy goes to her.
Bareback,
You are great and you have the guts to say it all openly, Hats off man :D
Last night I saw on TV, A man got arrested in US for bigamy etc. He was Top Ten most wanted men in FBI list. I don't know why...
He has a large following of polygamist across US..he reportedly has 24 wifes and 100 Kids :D
you can read it more here..
[url]http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/08/30/jeffs.arrest/[/url]
[QUOTE=Bareback Bill]I’m afraid you guys are 100% right about the risks of barebacking. <...> In fact, during my last trip to the Dermatologist he referred to me as “Mr. Corncob” since there were so many warts he needed to burn off with a laser. I refer to it as the cost of doing business.[/QUOTE]
BB,
I can't quite figure out if you're serious or having a big laugh on all of us, but either way, your posts are interesting. :)
Cheers,
-Y
Well then, If you do indeed support them financially I can't really fault you for your actions. The libertarian in me refuses to do so.
It does astonish me how the filippino has been conditioned to take just about anything one can throw at them with a remarkable amount of resilience and still keep their smiles.
BBB, your posts are humorous and disgusting at the same time. Any kind of poll would be statistically unsound, but I'll say that I usually go for the protection. And in those cases when I don't, I pull out at the most opportune moment. And if you're quick enought you can give her the "facial whitener". Darn, the whitening only works until she wipes it off...but don't tell her that.
I have only one confirmed kid in PI, and I was assured he was in good care. I was 19 and the mother was already engaged to a guy shooting blanks...so the story goes that they started a family. I hope it worked out for them.
How many of these children have you actually met BBB? I hope a few of them take a moment of their time and visit you...and kick your butt. You probably deserve it.
Like watching the aftereffects of a car accident, I can't stop looking at the BBB posts.
X
[QUOTE=Bareback Bill]However, I believe I am benefiting the gene pool by having as many kids as possible in the P.I. before I die.
Regarding the std’s, you name it I’ve had it. I’ve never had an HIV test so I have no clue about that one but all the others I plead guilty. The most annoying ones are Herpes and Genital Warts since it takes a few weeks before I’m back in action. I usually don’t get the warts treated until I have several on my cock. In fact, during my last trip to the Dermatologist he referred to me as “Mr. Corncob” since there were so many warts he needed to burn off with a laser. I refer to it as the cost of doing business.[/QUOTE]One word comes to mind: Vasectomy
I'd like to think BBB is joking, but if not, I hope he'll consider this operation.
In the spirit of the no crosstalk policy, I won't give my opinion on whether he's benefitting the gene pool. The above BBB/Mr. Corncob quote might give us some clues as to the quality of his genes.
BTW, let me put in a vote for Asian Rain: at least he posts some good pix and a lot of great info.
PB
Does anyone know why all the flights from the U.S to Manila arrive at 10:45pm or at 4 or 5 in the morning no matter where you depart from in the U.S?. This seems so strange to me, so if anyone has an answer for it it would be greatly appreciated.
Well, first we are talking about a 12 hour flight, and a 10 hour time difference. Trying to find a convenient arrival AND departure time could be a bit complicated.
Second point, is a lot of these flights connect somewhere. There are a lot of cities (HK, Tokyo, Taipei) which attract more high-paying passengers than MLA. For example, arrival time in Tokyo is convenient, but the last leg to Manila put you in around Midnight. (I'm thinking NWA on this)
x
[QUOTE=Chivas 1]Does anyone know why all the flights from the U.S to Manila arrive at 10:45pm or at 4 or 5 in the morning no matter where you depart from in the U.S?. This seems so strange to me, so if anyone has an answer for it it would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=X Man]Well, first we are talking about a 12 hour flight, and a 10 hour time difference. Trying to find a convenient arrival AND departure time could be a bit complicated.
Second point, is a lot of these flights connect somewhere. There are a lot of cities (HK, Tokyo, Taipei) which attract more high-paying passengers than MLA. For example, arrival time in Tokyo is convenient, but the last leg to Manila put you in around Midnight. (I'm thinking NWA on this)
x[/QUOTE]Thank you for your imput X Man and I fully understand where you are coming from, but with the number of travelers coming to Manila you would surely think that some airline would leave the United States at a time that would connect to a connecting flight into Manila that would get you into Manila at a reasonable time.
[QUOTE=X Man]Well, first we are talking about a 12 hour flight, and a 10 hour time difference. Trying to find a convenient arrival AND departure time could be a bit complicated.
Second point, is a lot of these flights connect somewhere. There are a lot of cities (HK, Tokyo, Taipei) which attract more high-paying passengers than MLA. For example, arrival time in Tokyo is convenient, but the last leg to Manila put you in around Midnight. (I'm thinking NWA on this)
x[/QUOTE]X Man hit it on the nail.It is the last connecting leg that makes it inconvinient..But many people like to arrive at night,So they can get some sleep to adjust to the jetlag.
[QUOTE=Cebu Local]If you take the New York-Manila Flight of Cathay Pacific,You arrive around 9 AM in the morning.[/QUOTE]
I've taken this Cathay Pacific flight several times and it gets you into MNL at around midnight, just like all the rest. The flight leaves JFK at 3:45pm every day, I think six days out of seven.
In a constant effort to reduce travel time, I've researched and tried different ways to get from New York to Manila in the shortest possible time. Cathay Pacific's NY-Hong Kong-Manila is the fastest by several hours, mainly due to the quick turnaround time in HKG.
Don
[QUOTE=Dashing Don]I've taken this Cathay Pacific flight several times and it gets you into MNL at around midnight, just like all the rest. The flight leaves JFK at 3:45pm every day, I think six days out of seven.
In a constant effort to reduce travel time, I've researched and tried different ways to get from New York to Manila in the shortest possible time. Cathay Pacific's NY-Hong Kong-Manila is the fastest by several hours, mainly due to the quick turnaround time in HKG.
Don[/QUOTE]
Senator
Sorry This was a few years back,I guess the schedule has since changed.Sorry for the Error,I will edit my post.
Mining the Online Introduction Boards, Part 3
I hope I’m not boring everybody with this pre-report stuff. Reactions have varied from praise to pan. The biggest criticism has been along the lines of ‘why bother?’ when there are so many opportunities just waiting for a traveler to take. I can’t refute that viewpoint. I’m doing this partly out of curiosity and partly from boredom while waiting for the time to pass until I can leave again. But in the process I have met and written to and chatted with some truly charming women – some little more than girls – and generally had an entertaining two months. But if I ever do this again, it will be in country, not from the US. Anyway, I'm off tonight, and we shall see how it goes.
There’s another aspect, too. I’m a writer and I’ve saved nearly all the emails and chats. I don’t know exactly what to do with it all, if anything, but I think it’s fascinating. Maybe I’ll try to turn it into something commercial, or at least into art.
Lots of things have changed since my last update. For those who have been following, I had already suggested as much in Part 2. For those who haven’t, I decided this trip to see what could be done via an online introduction board. I chose Cherry Blossoms ([url]www.blossoms.com[/url]) almost two months ago. Since then I've been writing to or chatting with a number of girls. Now, just days before the trip, I think I’m in love with five different women. Oh my, oh my. And they are not quite the same five as I ended the last report with. One has definitely dropped off and another is a maybe. But there are replacements in the wings.
As before, names have been changed to protect the wicked and innocent alike.
The one who definitely dropped was the one I said was the sweetest of the bunch last time – Marisol (Davao). What a tangle that turned out to be!
Marisol originally wrote to me through a friend whose command of English was better. Marisol and the friend wound up exchanging angry emails through me accusing the other of being money-grubbers. In the process, it turned out that several lies had been told, and that Marisol was not the semi-innocent (if anyone with an illegitimate baby can be called an innocent) she had seemed. In fact, she had been a Japayuki – a bar girl in Japan.
I didn’t care about that so much as I didn’t like being lied to. And I really didn’t like the tangled situation in which what was true was very unclear. So I dropped her like a rock, despite pleas that continued for two weeks. Nope, not doing that. I have a contact in Davao with whom I hope to have a drink and get some local guidance, perhaps a guided tour. And there’s a new girl that I will meet on the second day of my visit.
Right now, she seems like a great find. She won’t meet me without a chaperone, but she promises the chaperone will mind her own business. By that stage of the trip, I probably won’t care whether it goes very far or not. But she is so sweet I just had to meet her.
So the tail end of the trip has changed, and so has the front end, perhaps. I might still hear from Lina, who is supposed to meet me in Manila and tour guide me to Tagaytay. She isn’t on-line much. But her CB profile has changed to make it clear she is still very much searching for the right guy, which implies I am not it. And we haven’t written very much, especially compared to the others. Maybe she’s simmering in Manila, just waiting for me to fly in and grab her, but maybe not.
But that’s a minor problem as there are plenty of opportunities in Manila for entertainment. If Lina doesn’t show, I plan to head for the LA Café. As a matter of fact, I half hope she doesn’t, as I’d really like to check out the café while it’s in its prime. Great places like that have a tendency to come and go. (I just learned yesterday that the Cafe has closed. Sigh.)
If that’s the way it works out, I’ve got a couple of options for the days freed up by the change. I might go up to Subic Bay and Barrio Barreto for a night or two, or I might slip into Angeles City a day earlier than my second appointment is expecting me. I’d like to check out the perimeter bars, which I didn’t have time for last visit. I understand that afternoons at the Rio can be entertaining.
In any case, things are still on with Melissa in Angeles City for my second stop. As previously mentioned, Melissa is in a different category. She is not a Cherry Blossoms girl, she’s a door girl that I met on a visit nearly two years ago. We’ve been chatting and writing steadily for the past two months, and we’re both eager to renew our acquaintance. I’ve booked two nights at the Orchid Inn and one night at L’Tinio’s Jaccuzi Suite. Should be sweet.
When I stagger out of Angeles City, the next stop is Cebu (via Manila). What was a somewhat cautious involvement with the youngest of my serious correspondents has gotten hot and heavy. Fannie has made it pretty clear that she will likely throw caution to the winds and bonk my brains out. She’s asked if I would be sure to use a condom. I take that as a pretty clear hint.
Fannie is more fun than anybody so far. She is funny, frank and suggestive without being gross. She is also as crazy in love with me as you can be without ever meeting in person. Like my new girl in Davao, she will come to Cebu with a chaperone, but we have joked many times about how bored the cousin will be confined to her room while Fannie is in mine.
Fannie’s family is dirt poor. She sent me a picture of her house and an interior shot. They were pretty shocking, although I doubt she thought so. And that ‘house’ has since been torn down by the owner, who wanted the land for another purpose. They are slowly building another and sleeping on the floor at a cousin’s house meanwhile. The trip to Cebu will be a first for her. Sleeping on a hotel bed and eating in a restaurant will be firsts for her. She hasn’t asked for a thing, but if all goes well I will send her home with a gift to help with the house.
After Cebu is Zamboanga and Georgina, who is also crazy in love with me. Georgina is fun but not as much fun as Fannie. She is a little more aggressive with her questions, where Fannie is tactfully quiet. Georgina wants to know where I’m going and who I’m meeting. She is 28 but looks much younger in some of her pictures. I joke that I will have to check her ID first.
Georgina has also had some trauma during our correspondence – lost cell phone, undisclosed troubles involving a cousin, serious auto accidents involving friends, a neighbor who shot her cat and the resulting legal efforts to get him in trouble. I almost eased away from her, but I was left with a prepaid flight to Zamboanga and a lack of information about who might be there as an option. I probably could have found someone to fill in, but Georgina already knew where I was staying, even if she doesn’t know my real name.
And despite the rocky road, I think Georgina will turn out to be lots of fun. She has a good sense of humor and a great smile. Our last few chats have been both heavy and suggestive. But I have to be careful. Zamboanga is not that big of a town. Her family knows I’m coming. I need to get out on good terms if I want to get out alive.
Finally, with my last breath, I’ll push on to Davao. As mentioned, I hope to connect with an expat living there for an orientation and perhaps some hands-on guidance. (That doesn’t sound right, but I’ll leave it.) I’d like to visit Ground Zero.
The next day, I’m meeting Annamarie. She’s a late-comer to the party. I don’t expect to score a touchdown with her, and that will probably be a relief. This poor old body may be worn out by then. Correction. It surely will be worn out by then. So some kiss and cuddle will be plenty.
But Annamarie is worth meeting. We connected immediately. You know how that goes? We just liked each other, and each time we talked it got better and better. She’s a potential keeper. I only told her yesterday that I was coming to Davao. It was a gamble, but I just couldn’t let the opportunity to meet her pass by.
Although I said at the end of Part 2 that I was not looking for any more contacts, I lied to myself and you. I kept responding to emails and checking the CB lists of matches and of people who had checked me out. Annamarie is one result. There are several others, including Janie in Manila, Annie in Talisay (south of Cebu), and Layla in Cagayan de Oro. Annie and Layla are really too young, but they are so encouraging, so enticing, and so beautiful that I haven’t been able to let go. Janie is a little older and also very pretty. She is recovering from a severely broken heart. I told her my own sob-story and she latched on to me as an understanding and kindred spirit. Then there is Joey in – damn, I’ve forgotten – a small town on the west coast of Negros Occidental, the daughter of a drunk who is struggling to help her mother pay back her college loans. And Reina, a student in Manila, who wants to connect with me but just can’t overcome her shyness.
I wish I could have them all. I wish I could marry them all and live in connubial excess for my remaining days. A month ago, I was sure I would not wind up with any of them. That’s still my best guess, but I’m slipping. If any of them were willing to live with me without marrying, I might consider it. Fortunately or unfortuanately, that’s not likely to happen.
Oh, one final drama. I told my wife I was taking this vacation, which led to a rough two days before the storm passed. I haven’t been explicit but she knows what I’m up to. She’s not happy but she accepts that the consequence of various decisions she has made leave me little choice. I floated the concept of separate vacations in the future.
Right now, she’s still on probation at her new job and can’t take any time off until next year. She might go see her parents then. That would be okay with me. Maybe I can take another trip then. I doubt we can stay together much longer, but her present tolerance has extended the time for decision.
My next report will be after my return. Hang on. It should be an interesting ride.
Titmouse
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New York Times. Sept 19
New Species Found Off Indonesia.
Scientists have discovered dozens of new species, including a shark that walks on it's fins and a shrimp that resembles a praying mantis.
The team from Conservation International warned that the area, known as Bird's Head Seascape, is in danger from fishermen who use dynamite and cyanide.
"It's one of the most stunningly beautiful landscapes and seascapes on the planet," said a senior adviser.
The new shark is called the Indonesian speckled carpetshark. It looks like a leopard shark.
Hope this is not misplaced. Recently had a friend, much older and wiser than me, and fellow monger, pass on. Just my way of remembering him:
- he began to believe that in time even death itself might be abolished.
Reliving his mongering in words he began to wish he could relive it in fact, and he came to believe that he and his fellow mongers might one day be able to do just that. If not here on earth, then afterwards in Val Halla.
Who knows he asked as his narrative drew towards its close, but it may be given to us after this life to meet again in the old quarters; to play chess and cards, to get up at the crack of 11 to answer a morning phone call, to go to breakfast, then supper and after that to again hastily don our evening wear while a monotonous patter of a disco/karaoke music summons us to battle.
Who knows but again the girls, dressed in bikinis, dancing to a slow beat, face each other and giggle, pursuing and pursued, while the cries of lustful joy fill a warm night.
And after the humping, then the tired and winded will arise and all will meet together for breakfast, all sound and well. They'll be talking and laughter and cheers, and all will say:
- did it not seem real, was it not as in the old days.
[QUOTE=Sagramore]Hi all,
Several years ago I turned to the internet and started a quest with the sincere intention of finding a relationship with a foreign woman that could eventually lead to marriage. I made contact with several Filipinas, although it was always on a friendship only basis as I never believed in getting involved in some kind of long distance virtual relationship with someone I have not even met. I decided to get off the fence and take the plunge about a year ago and took my first trip to the Phils last December. I can honestly say that I had the time of my life; I visited Manila, Davao and Boracay.
My first impressions were that of absolute culture shock, I was not prepared for the scenes of abject poverty that I witnessed countless times on my month long stay. My general impression of the Filipino people is that although they are often times very poor, they are rich in spirit, living in adversity but with a smile on their faces.
I have often wrestled with my conscience over my mongering tendencies against my desire to be the “nice guy” that I want to be. Nothing illustrates this better than my first trip to the Phils. On one hand, I went there to meet sweet young Filipinas, on the other hand I wanted to sow some more of my seemingly endless supply of wild oats. Let me say that my mongering side won. Sometimes I visualize myself with little cartoon characters on my shoulder, one the little angel who tells me to be that nice guy, the other shoulder has the little devil who says have some fun and live a little. Needless to say, it’s the devil that often wins the argument!
Literally within hours of landing at Ninoy Aquino Airport I was at the EDSA Center with eyes wide open and tongue hanging out, I was in heaven! I brought home a lovely local named Jenny from a bar called, I believe, My Fair Lady. We actually spent the next 48 hours together, and by that I mean constant companionship like we here joined at the hip, or I should say joined at another appendage! I decided to let her go after a few days as I didn’t want to spend all of my time with just one girl, although in reality I really enjoyed her company and was reluctant to say goodbye.
After we said our farewell I went to a cyber café down the street and before I knew it I was chatting with a little 22 year old babe from Cebu sitting at the computer next to me. Her name was Anna and the next thing I know we were holding hands strolling down Bay Walk along Roxas Blvd. We then stopped at one of the café’s for a drink where she confessed to me that she works at LA café as a bar girl. She comes to Manila a few months out of the year to make some extra cash. To make a long story short, we ended up at my hotel for a good all night romp, the next morning she wanted to stay with me for the day but I didn’t want to get any more involved. She never did ask for any money but I gave her some anyways just to keep things on a “professional” level.
That night I hit a bar called G Spot in Ermita that was practically across the street from the Lotus Garden Hotel where I stayed. I sat at the bar, ordered a San Mig and before I took my third swig there was a Filipina hottie sitting next to me asking my name. Her name was Lorie and as it turns out she works at some bar on Burgos St. I started to think that every girl in this city works as a bar girl! Anyways, the same story; back to my hotel, an all night GFE, wanted to stay with me all day and never asked for money although I gave her some anyways. To this day I’m still not sure if she was a bar girl on her night off looking for a boyfriend or turning a trick on the side.
I decided to call Jenny up, the girl from my first night as I actually missed her. I ended up spending the rest of the week with her. She was more of a girlfriend than a bar girl, I did not pay any bar fines and I actually had an emotional scene on my hands later in the week when I tried to give her money. She was deeply hurt and insulted that I wanted to pay for her company. I’m not sure of the lesson learned here, other than that I believe that there are a certain number of women who work in these bars and they are filled with shame because of it. Maybe the moral is that a little kindness goes a long way with a lot of these women. Keep in mind that this isn’t necessarily a bad thing depending on what you’re looking for.
I flew to Davao on Cebu Pacific and stayed at Casa Leticia for the next two weeks. One of the main reasons I went to Davao was to meet in person a young 20 year old lady who I had been corresponding with for several months before my trip. I had met her, along with several other women, through the Cherry Blossoms website. She was a very sweet girl, a true Filipina gem. She had recently finished school and just started a job working at a call center. I should mention that she was a virgin, she was from a good family that raised her and her sister right. They showed me very generous hospitality; they invited me to dinner and several family outings. However, as nice as she was there lacked a certain chemistry that one cannot know until you have met in person.
I also met some other “normal girls” in Davao, most of who were virgins; I went from one extreme to the next, either bar girls or virgins! Interestingly enough they all seemed to think that I was a great guy full of morals and decency. I couldn’t help but think that these particular women could do better than a guy like me. Don’t get me wrong, It’s not that I’m putting these women on too high a pedestal or put myself too low in the gutter, it’s just that it bothered me is that I wasn’t being totally honest with them. For if they truly knew of my mongering tendencies they would probably not want to have a thing to do with me. In a certain irony, I am more honest with the bargirls than with these sweet things. Let me say that I have no intention of deflowering any of these women. I respect their choices and do not want to change them. One thing I did learn from this experience was to avoid virgins in the future as I am not compatible with them for anything more than friendship.
For the last week of my trip I decided to splurge and go to Boracay for a few days, I took Jenny from Manila and had a great time. I still talk with her to this day and I genuinely care about her well being. I have sent her some money from time to time, not much. For the record she has never once asked for it.
In conclusion, I actually have the desire to live in the Philippines. I think it would be great to get the mongering out of my system so I can think straight! After a month there of fucking myself silly, I had an entirely new perspective on just about everything; including myself, a greater understanding of women and of the human condition in general. I have come to admire the Filipino spirit and truly would like to find a good woman to marry someday. I can think of no better way than to live there full time so I could not only pursue women on a full time basis, but also try and understand the life and culture there as well. I actually envy some posters here that have found a way to have a successful career in a third world country.
I will be traveling for my second trip to the Phils this upcoming November and December; my tentative stops will be in Manila, Angeles, Cebu and Davao. If any of you expats, mongers, conversationalists or adventurers want to meet up for a drink or two and perhaps and evening of debauchery, then the first round is on me!
Cheers,
Sagramore[/QUOTE]
Great post dude. I think there can be a "boy's club" culture on here, and we all sometimes want to show the less soft side. But Identify with what you say. I guess I've become a bit hardened after being with counless pros. I'm almost the same age as you.
One of the "hardened" area relates to "making her happy". I totally agree with you. By now I'm damn good at oral, as most mongerers become. So going down on a 9 an watching her twich and knowing she may NEVER HAVE GOTTEN ORAL LIKE THIS if she is new to the industry, that's great.
Then there is a side that is not so nice and I'm not sure what to think about my attitude. I remember one of the most sexy girls I ever did in Cebu. She was brand spanking new and very recently over 18. I was very nice with her and made her feel at ease before we did the wild.
But, the fact is that when someone is new, they can not go at it for very long or they get sore. In this case, and a couple like it, she was in discomfort. NOT to the point of pushing me off or saying stop.
She was still wet and I was in absolute heaven. The CONTROL of the situation I guess is part of what made this so kinky to me. And again, I'd been with few in the past that were model material like this. So, I guess that's the bad guy (not so bad).
I have a friend that like P4P and it turns him on when the girl has a bad attitude and doesn't really want to fuck for more than 60 secs but is being paid for it. He's a decent catch in the US, so it's not as though he turns girls off like this. Again, I guess this about conrol.. His attitude is a bit much for me.
You also mention "get it out of your sytem". Does that happen? I don't know and I don't think so. I've spent almost a year of the past 2 working in the Phils and I could not count how many babes I've done in that time. Before that I had at least 100 sessions P4P going back to age 28. But I don't think the ones now are any worse then the ones half way through this hobby.
I do think I'm more picky, and that's the irony, becausse I'm approaching an age were the 18 year olds are not as thrilled, but I still can thrill most any babe that is 20 if I chat with them in a bar. So there must be diminishing returns. But I don't think there is anying to "get out of my system"
I am just worried that when I am at an age where the girls are doing it for money (the 8s or especially 9s) that that will lose it's fun for me.
I OFTEN calculate how much less I'll have to offer physically at different age. What is it like at 50 and with a 25 year old? What is it like at 55 and with a 25 year old. Yes, I am considered a big catch there and in the US and there, but at that 55, I don't know what happens. If someone is doing just for the money, then the vast amount of the time, it just won't be the same.
You said a very important thing when you said that sleeping with, say 20 different girls, in a not too long period of time...it DOES give you a new outlook on life. One is that it makes me wonder how anyone could go through life and NOT do that.
But you know it is maybe somthing like compairing to somone who gets to travel on a private jet and stay and their dream hotels/resorts (remove thought of girls for a moment, maybe they just go with the regular girlfriend) for 2 months. Most of us never get that chance.
I've asked something similar in the past, but that was 2 years ago. I'm going to change some facts a little because I think they will help you all to give me unbiased advice.
I need to decide soon whether to divorce in which case I will be living and working in the phils about 10 months of the year where I own a biz. I doubt I would marry again. I'd be a player to at least some extent, although I'm not a drinker or someone that likes to show off materialistically.
My situation as it now stands...well you can read the below post. And/or assume the following:
1. I am married to someone that everyone seems to think is the sweetest, most beautiful thing. She is so NICE. That's part of what is disarming. She's a catch, but trouble is we are quite different. At the same time, all couples have to "work through" differences. Ours seem pretty big, although at the same time there is a very strong connection when we are not arguing.
2. We've been together about 5 years since we met. No children.
3. I CARE a lot about her and she about me. We will always care about each other. But man, we fight and bicker like hell much/most of the time. I am concerned about what might happen with her. She is sooo picky about guys, and really it makes no sense why she thought I was so much more unusual then a lot of other guys that would be interested in her. Again, she is a GOOD person, very few would deny that.
3A. If she doesn't find someone in the next few years and marry, she will be getting to an age were childbirth is a bit dangerous. But she and I can't do that I don't think because we are too unstable anyway in our relationship. she is not happy about marrying a guy who's already got a kid...does not want to be a step mom.
4. She is just not into sex. Is she good in bed? I guess, but mostly because of her great looks. More importantly, I'm not into the sex because there's something weird with me about sex and her. Maybe I'm just so damn turned on by the NEWness of screwing someone I've not been with for 5 years.
5. She LIKES sex and she likes it with me more than boyfriends she had. But, on a scale of 1-100, she would be as into sex as to place her at about number 10. For me I would be at about 90 compaired to guys (as would most of you :) .
6. I have a biz that would operate better if I lived in the Phils 10 months of the year.
7. Finances are important. I do not want to live there unless I have comfortable savings. I want to help people in the 3rd world, but given all the hard work I've done in the US, I do not want parts of my life to feel very 3rd world.
Actually, I've been there done that when traveling on the cheap in my 20s with little money. So the success of my company has a lot to do with whether I would want to be there 10 months of the year. I would say chances are 3/4 that the company would stay at a perfectly satisfactory level. They are 1 in 5 that it would go below my comfort level.
8. Very important: getting divorce has big consequence on your family when they all think your wife is a perfect catch and say things like a person wouldn't even MEET a person like her, let alone have her be interested. Of course they only see one side! There is another side that would drive many guys crazy and cause a lot of arguments.
So you all can be a big help. I have been on this board and another run by a guy who's first initial is B. I've been on both for close to 10 years.
Cheers
[QUOTE=Wander Luster]I've asked something similar in the past, but that was 2 years ago. I'm going to change some facts a little because I think they will help you all to give me unbiased advice.
I need to decide soon whether to divorce in which case I will be living and working in the phils about 10 months of the year where I own a biz. I doubt I would marry again. I'd be a player to at least some extent, although I'm not a drinker or someone that likes to show off materialistically.
My situation as it now stands...well you can read the below post. And/or assume the following:
1. I am married to someone that everyone seems to think is the sweetest, most beautiful thing. She is so NICE. That's part of what is disarming. She's a catch, but trouble is we are quite different. At the same time, all couples have to "work through" differences. Ours seem pretty big, although at the same time there is a very strong connection when we are not arguing.
2. We've been together about 5 years since we met. No children.
3. I CARE a lot about her and she about me. We will always care about each other. But man, we fight and bicker like hell much/most of the time. I am concerned about what might happen with her. She is sooo picky about guys, and really it makes no sense why she thought I was so much more unusual then a lot of other guys that would be interested in her. Again, she is a GOOD person, very few would deny that.
3A. If she doesn't find someone in the next few years and marry, she will be getting to an age were childbirth is a bit dangerous. But she and I can't do that I don't think because we are too unstable anyway in our relationship. she is not happy about marrying a guy who's already got a kid...does not want to be a step mom.
4. She is just not into sex. Is she good in bed? I guess, but mostly because of her great looks. More importantly, I'm not into the sex because there's something weird with me about sex and her. Maybe I'm just so damn turned on by the NEWness of screwing someone I've not been with for 5 years.
5. She LIKES sex and she likes it with me more than boyfriends she had. But, on a scale of 1-100, she would be as into sex as to place her at about number 10. For me I would be at about 90 compaired to guys (as would most of you :) .
6. I have a biz that would operate better if I lived in the Phils 10 months of the year.
7. Finances are important. I do not want to live there unless I have comfortable savings. I want to help people in the 3rd world, but given all the hard work I've done in the US, I do not want parts of my life to feel very 3rd world.
Actually, I've been there done that when traveling on the cheap in my 20s with little money. So the success of my company has a lot to do with whether I would want to be there 10 months of the year. I would say chances are 3/4 that the company would stay at a perfectly satisfactory level. They are 1 in 5 that it would go below my comfort level.
8. Very important: getting divorce has big consequence on your family when they all think your wife is a perfect catch and say things like a person wouldn't even MEET a person like her, let alone have her be interested. Of course they only see one side! There is another side that would drive many guys crazy and cause a lot of arguments.
So you all can be a big help. I have been on this board and another run by a guy who's first initial is B. I've been on both for close to 10 years.
Cheers[/QUOTE]
I guess I'll take a stab at this one as I've been married and divorced lived in the PI and other places in Asia so I suppose that qualifies me for my 2 cents.
I was married to a western woman for twenty years had two kids, a house, a cabin, a boat two cars and was a sucess in my job i suppose a "good husband" BTW me and the X had a GREAT sex life so I never felt the need to cheat on her (NOTE THIS POINT, WILL RETURN TO IT) but when my son turned 18 the X decided it was time to go her way, coulda knocked me over with a feather. So I retired, took my pension and went to work for a UN subcontractor in the worlds arm pit; E. Timor. Turned into a total monger, realized I wasted a great deal of my life with one woman, got it out of my system and Married a Filipina again, now I reside in third world luxury.
Lessons learned with women in general
No matter how "beautiful" she may be, educated and "Nice" it doesn't mean SHIT if you are not SEXUALLY COMPATABLE. Lets be honest, male sex drive is a powerful thing, if it wasn;t there wouldn;t be sites like this, if your "other" is on the same level as you then whatever else may be wrong in your life you are both satisfied in bed, when people are satisfied sexually there is less tension between them, less arguement and bickering in their lives. I may be reading into your post here but I get the imnpression that neither of you are sexualy compatible.
If you aren;t happy or satisfied in your marriage now, it will only get worse, as women get older they get bitchier, sex is less important for biological reasons that impacts on their psych (menopause). You sound like you are coming to the Phils to work and the wife will be in the US, seperation in a realtionship can only strain it, make no mistake, your wife knows exactly what you are gonna be doing over here she will argue and fight with you more over it, never let you forget it etc.
Finances: One MUST have an income to survive in Asia, yeah I know some guys work here and have successful businesses, if you have an established business great but by and large most guys live here are retired and draw a monthly pension, 401 K whatever as most businesses FAIL. So financially you may be able to cover your expenses easily, however I take it you still must support your wife "At home" how much does it cost to support her? Your mortgage etc. can you make more money in the US or will it average out with the cheap cost of living in the PI...do the math.
Depending where you stay in Asia you can live well on as little as $1000 a month, factor in more for manila due to rent etc.
My advise: If you don't get along get out, end it, don't waste your time. Do the honerable thing, a fair divorce settlement and uphold your end of the bargain then you are free to do what you want if there are no kids yet then this may be a good time to exit before there are, children complicate everything finacialy and emotionally.
Good luck
Spamhog
[QUOTE=Spam Hog]I guess I'll take a stab at this one as I've been married and divorced lived in the PI and other places in Asia so I suppose that qualifies me for my 2 cents.
Spamhog[/QUOTE]
Very good reasoning in your response, and the best part of all is that I think you said what I want to hear. I say THINK, because my whole life I've been a dreamer...always looking to "what's better and what's next".
And my big question is....do you feel like you need a soul-mate. I hate even using the word, but is life like yours (which sounds like what mine would be) "lonely". I think if I were living off too little money it would. But to be able to travel in SEA and have at least decent money to kick around. Well, that may bridge the gap.
[QUOTE=Spam Hog]
No matter how "beautiful" she may be, educated and "Nice" it doesn't mean SHIT if you are not SEXUALLY COMPATABLE. Lets be honest, male sex drive is a powerful thing, if it wasn;t there wouldn;t be sites like this, if your "other" is on the same level as you then whatever else may be wrong in your life you are both satisfied in bed, when people are satisfied sexually there is less tension between them, less arguement and bickering in their lives. I may be reading into your post here but I get the imnpression that neither of you are sexualy compatible.
Spamhog[/QUOTE]
I don't think Sex is that much an extreme in a relationship for me. The girls that I've been with in the Phils as "girlfriends" I've been with 50% for their looks and great sex. But that was worse then a wife you love be around but rarely have sex with and instead J. off to a DVD now and then. BUT, having a new girlfriend every week or two at once and being honest that you're doing that, well that has been, when i've had time in the phils, the most enjoyable.
[QUOTE=Spam Hog]
If you aren;t happy or satisfied in your marriage now, it will only get worse, as women get older they get bitchier, sex is less important for biological reasons that impacts on their psych (menopause). You sound like you are coming to the Phils to work and the wife will be in the US, seperation in a realtionship can only strain it, make no mistake, your wife knows exactly what you are gonna be doing over here she will argue and fight with you more over it, never let you forget it etc.
Spamhog[/QUOTE]
yea, the sex will only get worse. What i wonder is if the bickering will get worse. I've seen it both ways with other couples. Do we grow together or apart?
You further mentioned that if I'm over there then she will not like it and we'll grow apart. That's part of the problem. If I stay with her I will have to cut down on time over there. She is naive about me over there. But some day she will find out if I'm spending 3 months a year there, right? I can't imagine after 10 years her not finding out.
And you mention honorable. Well it feels a bit dis-honerable to say "bye" when this could be worked out somehow. But if she is a willing party, then that's different and is what is making this more possible. if I keep this company and even only go for 2 months a year and am fooling around...well that's what all Phil guys do...but for me it wouldn't sit so well I guess after many, many years. Some guys do it and I wouldn't put them down for it.
Financially, she's a career woman. Splitting might put me in a little bit of a better situation.
The bigger issue is that my company is quite large. i've gone into a lot of debt to build it to where it is. Now we are profitable. If it sinks, then I'm in pretty bad shape. But most of the money could be paid back over a long period of time because the debt comes from friends who would let me do that at low interest.
So worse case financially, I live more modestly than I ever have and start a small company-- maybe one out of a house with just a few IT guys working with me. I would make at least 2000K bare minimum a month while paying back debt over decades (earnings after debt payments). No children, no wife. My hightest paid employee there makes about 1000K a month. Pretty funny for me to think of earning even in the ballpark with him given how very low salaries and costs are in the Phils (out of Manila).
It all sounds fine, but this is a fine, fine person I'd be leaving. don't know if I'd ever find someone to be with that is such a great companion.
By the way, she didn't grow up in the US or Phils, but I won't say where.
I have an itch to live in the Phils and also work from the road in other countries. That's the other thing, I'm in IT, so I can do a lot of work from the road. Like Bankok road or Phnom Penh road.
All other suggestions more than welcome! Thanks Spamhog!
Dude, you have no kids to complicate things, be VERY thankfull! It is real simple. Sell your belongings with her and SPLIT, GET THE FUCK OUT. Your one of the lucky ones.
[QUOTE=Wander Luster]I've asked something similar in the past, but that was 2 years ago. I'm going to change some facts a little because I think they will help you all to give me unbiased advice.
Cheers[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dafacer]Dude, you have no kids to complicate things, be VERY thankfull! It is real simple. Sell your belongings with her and SPLIT, GET THE FUCK OUT. Your one of the lucky ones.[/QUOTE]
That's what I'm beginning to move towards, and post from you guys have actually had an effect in that direction.
This is a woman no wise guy would say bye to easily. And with her age I'm not psyced about the posibility of leaving her child-less IF she decides that's what she wants.
This may end up being something I do to a degree out of selfish-ness. I never thought that would be the way.
Like the Spam Hog, I've been there and done that in the US and, like him, made a decision to alter my life radically by leaving it all behind and coming over here. Of course, prior to moving to the PI, I had spent approximately 6 months of my life on the road for 15 years, which is what probably created the problems with my US marriage in the first place. There's no cure apparently, for the infection of wanderlust.
I don't know how valid it is to generalize from my experience, but in my case I've come to realize that you can never quite have it all. Money is not the problem, but for me, the guilt never goes away entirely. Further, if you choose to live in SE Asia, you will never fit in quite as completely as you did in your native country. I lived in France for years, and I speak the language well. I never experienced any sense of "otherness" there. I guess it's because, though it wasn't the US, it was still the West, and there's a common cultural/social context to which I could relate. Asia is different and I (and you) will always be looked upon as a foreigner. Neither I, nor you, will ever fully understand the culture, the customs or the people and you will never find a woman with whom you can share the same thoughts, dreams and feelings as you could in your homeland. How could you? Your experiences are radically different, as are your education and your cultural roots.
That's the down side. The upside is obvious. You can live extremely well, and in most cases far better than you could in the US or Europe. No matter your age, if you're reasonably presentable, you can indulge yourself with an unending throng of young, beautiful women. If you get tired of endless women, you can, most likely, find a permanent relationship which is as different from your relationship in the US as night is from day. You can find someone who is utterly devoted to your care and well-being, who goes out of her way to please you, and who takes your happiness and comfort as the central focus of her life, while asking for little other than kindness and a reasonable standard of living in return. True, she (probably) will not be able to discuss the great books with you, and might not share your passion for any intellectual pursuit, but she will not mind at all if you find such needs met with expat friends wherever you're living.
To me, the upside usually outweighs the downside of the equation, but it's never a total "win-win" situation in the long haul. If my experience is at all common, you will always have some doubts, and may occassionally feel some guilt, never entirely banishing the "what if I had stayed" thoughts from your mind. On the other hand, if you decide to stay where you are, you're never going to entirely get rid of the "what if I had gone" thoughts either.
I don't regret the choice I've made, but I did want to point out that there are always nuances to the decision.
:D
GE
Dear Fellow Mongers,
I will be doing my first trip to the Philippines in Feb. I only have one week there and hence have to pack in as much as I can in about a week.
My only requirement is I would like to spend some of my time there scuba diving. I was thinking of flying into Manila and spending a few days there and then taking a quick flight to Cebu and eventually fly out of there.
What are the girl quality/quantity & concentration in both cities. I appreciate all input.
Thanks
MM
Mofo: Diving near CEbu City sucks. Go tro Puerto Galera, mIndoro, about a 2 hour bus ride south of Manila to Batangas wherer you catch a boat for the 90 minute crossing. Sabang is the nightlife area and there are diive shops too.
[QUOTE=Mofo Monger]Dear Fellow Mongers,
I will be doing my first trip to the Philippines in Feb. I only have one week there and hence have to pack in as much as I can in about a week.
My only requirement is I would like to spend some of my time there scuba diving. I was thinking of flying into Manila and spending a few days there and then taking a quick flight to Cebu and eventually fly out of there.
What are the girl quality/quantity & concentration in both cities. I appreciate all input.
Thanks
MM[/QUOTE]
Since you are a tourist and only have one week, I think maybe you should try Boracay. It is very touristy but also has a lot to offer. Great beach, good diving, lots of bars, good restaurants and some discos. There are girls available but sometimes pickings are slim. You might find a girl in Manila you like and take her with you. There is an airport near Boracai.
Puerto Galera is ok too. Not as nice, some girls, less tourists. That's my opinion.
There is plenty of mongering in Cebu City but the good dive sights are very far away from the city and require a lot of travel time.
Of course, there are more girls available in Manila than in Cebu.
There are many remote and private beaches with great diving, but they are not good for a single guy looking for diving + pussy.
I took my former Quezon City sweetheart to Boracay and will agree with Santa, it's a nice place for diving, dining, drinking and debauchery (bring your own pinay). There are some 'freelance' girls to be had but I'm very glad I had mine with me.
Boracay is the 'holy grail' for Filipinos as most never get the chance to go there.
Speaking further as a one-time visitor to the PI myself, I'd say don't miss spending at least 2 nights in Angeles City. As Boracay is to Filipinos, AC's the 'holy grail' for 24/7 mongering in Asia.
If your past monger experience(s) have sharpened your 'spidey senses,' I bet you'll find an AC sweety fit for a Boracay trip with you. I'd also bet she'd love you for it, especially if she's not been there before.
SeaAir now offers daily direct flights from AC to Boracay. Check with an online travel service serving Asia (Beeline Travel comes to mind) and by all means enjoy your first PI trip!
Just my nickels worth.
Mr. Plumber
[QUOTE=Mofo Monger]Dear Fellow Mongers,
I will be doing my first trip to the Philippines in Feb. I only have one week there and hence have to pack in as much as I can in about a week.
My only requirement is I would like to spend some of my time there scuba diving. I was thinking of flying into Manila and spending a few days there and then taking a quick flight to Cebu and eventually fly out of there.
What are the girl quality/quantity & concentration in both cities. I appreciate all input.
Thanks
MM[/QUOTE]
So do you guys think me staying in Manila is good for the week and just do the short trips/dive spots from there?
[QUOTE=Mofo Monger]So do you guys think me staying in Manila is good for the week and just do the short trips/dive spots from there?[/QUOTE]
No, there are no good "short trips/dive spots from Manila. Puerto Gallera can be reached by bus but it is a long ride, don't remember how many hours. There are some girls available and no need for an air ticket, so Gallera may be your better option.
I would not recommend Angeles, but that is just my opinion. However, if you can get a cheap flight into Angeles and a flight from there to Boracay, then that might be a good option.
Angeles is a bunch of old bars with very experienced bargirls. Many of them have had more pricks than the old dartboards. Nothing wrong with that, just want you to know what to expect. Some guys love it! I enjoyed it but I have no desire to return. You might find a good companion there.
I think it's better to bring your own girl if you go to Boracay. The local authorities like to keep the hookers away, they want it to be more family oriented.
There is a tourist information center in Boracay with safety deposit boxes.
[QUOTE=Mofo Monger]Dear Fellow Mongers,
I will be doing my first trip to the Philippines in Feb. I only have one week there and hence have to pack in as much as I can in about a week.
My only requirement is I would like to spend some of my time there scuba diving. I was thinking of flying into Manila and spending a few days there and then taking a quick flight to Cebu and eventually fly out of there.
What are the girl quality/quantity & concentration in both cities. I appreciate all input.
Thanks
MM[/QUOTE]If you really want to do some diving and it is not too far away then Puerto Galera is the only place within reason. Forget Cebu and forget Boracay as they are both boring in the diving area. Diving on flat sandy bottoms is not of interest to me. Galera has much better diving and the place has improved since I first dove there in 1994. Lots of waste from dynamite fishing. My last dive there (2005) showed a dramatic improvement in the underwater landscape. You can dive flat areas or do wall diving down as far as you can safely handle. Do day diving or night diving, your choice.
As far as Angeles is concerned the earlier statement seems to be an overstatement. Older bars depends if you are talking in existence for 1 year or 15 years. Most fall in the new 2000 and up years. Very experienced girls? Don't think I would call an 18-20 year old experienced especially when compared to her Makati sisters. Off the top of my head I would have to say that more than half the girls have been in AC 6 months or less. Most have a shelf life of 1 year based on whether they get a money-ko, burn out fast or simply move on. This is based on being there at leat every 5 months or so since 1990 and I am always hard pressed to find the same girls twice in a row.
[QUOTE=Tbm Fan]If you really want to do some diving and it is not too far away then Puerto Galera is the only place within reason. Forget Cebu and forget Boracay as they are both boring in the diving area. Diving on flat sandy bottoms is not of interest to me. Galera has much better diving and the place has improved since I first dove there in 1994. Lots of waste from dynamite fishing. My last dive there (2005) showed a dramatic improvement in the underwater landscape. You can dive flat areas or do wall diving down as far as you can safely handle. Do day diving or night diving, your choice.
As far as Angeles is concerned the earlier statement seems to be an overstatement. Older bars depends if you are talking in existence for 1 year or 15 years. Most fall in the new 2000 and up years. Very experienced girls? Don't think I would call an 18-20 year old experienced especially when compared to her Makati sisters. Off the top of my head I would have to say that more than half the girls have been in AC 6 months or less. Most have a shelf life of 1 year based on whether they get a money-ko, burn out fast or simply move on. This is based on being there at leat every 5 months or so since 1990 and I am always hard pressed to find the same girls twice in a row.[/QUOTE]
The diving in Boracay is not good, but also not all bad. It is good for new divers and there is a wall called Yapak. But Boracay also has the beautiful white-sand beach and some nightlife, so it's good for a one week tourist.
It has been several years since I was in Angeles. Sounds like business is very good and things have improved. Probably because the airport is busy with lots of new flights. When I was in Angeles the airport was closed and the bars were not busy.
[QUOTE=Santa]The diving in Boracay is not good, but also not all bad, there is a wall called Yapak. But it also has the beautiful white-sand beach and some nightlife.
It has been several years since I was in Angeles. Sounds like business is good and things have improved.[/QUOTE]
Well, Yapak if good visibility is a very nice dive site (Its just if there is current you got to be quite precise in dropping off and go staight down), and also Crocodile. And a night dive at the wreck is not bad either.
yapak is 40 meters so short bottom time (under 10 minutes) to be expected. basically race down the anchor line to the reef, short time with strong currrent and soso lighting day i was there and it is not great for pi.
if mofo is serious about diving, bohol's balicasag is reliably much more impressive imho. some girls available in tagbilaran town, and bohol is famous for beautiful girls, but probably better to bring one overnight from cebu on the waterjet (high speed ferry) unless you have lots of time and /or game.
[QUOTE=Santa]The diving in Boracay is not good, but also not all bad. It is good for new divers and there is a wall called Yapak. But Boracay also has the beautiful white-sand beach and some nightlife, so it's good for a one week tourist.
It has been several years since I was in Angeles. Sounds like business is very good and things have improved. Probably because the airport is busy with lots of new flights. So Angeles fans, don't get mad at me, I was only giving my opinion and trying help.[/QUOTE]For example the bar to go to is Nero's at the moment. Tons, and I mean tons, of girls working there (reminds me of Superstar in Ermita) along with Martin the manager. If anyone had the luck of visiting Martin, while at Wild West/Geronimos in Makati, back in 2000-01 then you know what I mean. That place was rockin every night I was in there. Neros is a larger stage for him but already he is working on the girls to change their attitudes if you know what I mean. I will be in Wild West & Flamingo on the 13th followed by Roadhouse (my booze is there) and Nero's on the 14th.
[quote=surfer]
if mofo is serious about diving, bohol's balicasag is reliably much more impressive imho. some girls available in tagbilaran town, and bohol is famous for beautiful girls, but probably better to bring one overnight from cebu on the waterjet (high speed ferry) unless you have lots of time and /or game.[/quote]
i have also been there and agree with surfer. if you skip manila and angeles, fly straight into cebu, then bohol becomes a third option. depends on if mofo is more interested in diving or more interested in party and girls.
not many girl options in tagbilaran so look for a girl in cebu. unfortunately, he only has one week.
There was a young woman named Melanie
Who was asked by a man, "Do you sell any?"
She replied, "No, siree"
I give it for free.
To sell it, dear sir, is a felony!" :D
My name is Jose Rodriguez
I earn tres pesos a day
I give it to Lucy
She give me some pussy
And takes my pesos away :(
Surfer said "waterjet". He may have meant "ocean jet". If I recall, it's about 90 min ride from Cebu to Bohol.
[url]http://www.oceanjet.net/[/url]
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Wander:
Sorry about not getting back to you but I was in Hong Kong & Macau with the Mrs spending all my money etc. Anyhow a belated reply re your decision and a few of my cockeyed philosophies:
And my big question is....do you feel like you need a soul-mate. I hate even using the word, but is life like yours (which sounds like what mine would be) "lonely". I think if I were living off too little money it would. But to be able to travel in SEA and have at least decent money to kick around. Well, that may bridge the gap.
To sum up, every body needs somebody, we are genetically engineered to
seek a mate, sow our genes and pass them on just like a bull among cows.
Thats nature, now what seperates us from animals (Or from some mongers on this board he he he) is our need to be with one person, raise a family, care for that family and provide for them. It depends on how you were raised, I came from Irish working class stock, coal miners and grew up in western Penna in the fifties and sixties. Divorce came hard for me, I understand that it can be a scary thing even for us big tough guys, the feasr of the unknown is what is holding you back, it was for me and Im not ashamed to admidt it, thought I could salvage a marriage but I couldn't and didn't. leaving my culture and dwelling among strange peoples was equally scary but here is where the "swashbuckler" theory comes in, read on and I'll explain.
"I have an itch to live in the Phils and also work from the road in other countries. That's the other thing, I'm in IT, so I can do a lot of work from the road. Like Bankok road or Phnom Penh road."
All other suggestions more than welcome! Thanks Spamhog![/QUOTE]
AHA!!! A fellow swashbuckler!!!! Yes wander you are what the SH calls a Swashbuckler, (Like most of the people on this board!) Do you read? Well get ahold of James Mitchner (Spelling?) Author of "Hawaii" and read his book
"Rogues and rascals in Paradise" He chronicles true storys of our forebearers the original expats who first came to Asia through and after WW2.
You see, I agree with the authors acessment that some men yearn to live among alien people in "tropical paradise" setting, a place on the beach with a warm, willing, uninhibited brown woman. To adventure, the conquest that is what drives us, not just laying LBFM but the whole experience, business the desire to succeed against a culture that is against you, earn fantastic wealth just like the early "yankee traders" who set foot on stange lands and wrested
a fortune from it , damn all risk and danger. Nowadays we dont get on a ship and stuff a cutlass in our belts we come here armed with credit cards and
western inginuity using the skills we learned in our world to get by and profit in this one. It takes balls Wander, just to live here but once you do you weill see the kick you get from it.
The phils is centrally locted and you can always hop on a plane and go to bangkok for a hoot in nanplaza or "the png" or even to singapore with it high brow mongering or to hongkong and stay out all night in "the Wanch"
Get over your fears, muster your finances, work out a plan and do it!
Good luck
Spamhog
man, what a ride!
i'm too tired still to write up my adventures in detail, but i visited manila, olangapo, angeles city, cebu, zamboanga, and davao in the two weeks between 9/14 and 9/29.
(for those who don't know yet, la cafe is back in business. i checked it at 4 pm, 9 pm and 8 am. do-ables at all hours.)
nearly all my plans worked out. pal threw me a curve ball by changing the familiar two-hop flight with a stop in hawaii into a non-stop, which meant the flight left an hour later and arrived almost two hours earlier. i walked out of aquino international at 5:15 am, so i decided to skip my first date and head to angeles city. hopped a cab and grabbed a bus. first time i'd done that. it worked out fine.
checked into hotel hana, then went to club rio, which was hard to find because it's on a side street back from garfields, and wound up having a two-party sample in the corner booth, switching girls from time to time -- one sampling and one kissing me with my finger in her. it was an incredible experience but wound up costing me because one of them scraped me with her teeth and left me wounded for days. later, i met a really cute girl at dr holm's out on perimeter and had a great time with her. nice substitute for my original first.
then up to olangapo where i was too tired and sore to party but the bars of barrio barretto had plenty of low-key candidates and good prices. stayed at the blue rock. the floating bar is not all year, it turns out. it will be back in october they said. went back to angeles city and back on plan. met my friend from a previous visit. she was a great lay and a little bit of a disappointment. she wasn't in love with me, after all, just nostalgic. oh well. i dropped her after one night and grabbed my cutie from dr. holm's again.
on to cebu and on with the plan. met this sweet, 20-year-old correspondent who came with aunt and niece as chaperones. auntie was very understanding. we all had a great time going out to eat and taking a tour of cebu. also had plenty of time alone with the sweetie. i could have but didn't, but did everything else. stayed at the montebello villa and it was a perfect, somewhat out of the way location. not monger central and not cheap, but very nice.
flew down to zamboanga to meet another correspondent who was this odd mix of experience and inexperience. she claimed i was her second, and she was tight enough for me to believe it. yet she had this natural easy way that was one of the most comfortable experiences i've ever had with a woman. just naturally sexy in her entire being. she had me sit next to the tub while she bathed, and it was an incredibly intimate experience. unfortunately, she's not very pretty and her family environment is a complete mess.
in davao, i talked with goodenough, who was good enough to give me some pointers. unfortunately, he had to leave on business and couldn't join me for dinner. i roamed around the first night, had dinner at de bonte koe, checked out hot legs (or is it lips) too, wound up picking up a street girl near gound zero. she was so cute and bouncy and nice i couldn't believe it. also had the nicest set of lungs i've personally inspected in the philippines.
next afternoon, my last correspondent rolled in, and my oh my what a sweetie she was. i didn't really expect to sleep with her (and was tired enough i didn't care) but wound up doing it three times counting the next morning. oh, what a lovely girl. i'm ready to run away with her.
so that's it in brief. naysayers on the value of cherry blossoms may be revealing more about themselves than anything else. yes, it's easier and less involving to rent your pussy. i agree entirely. this was an experiment that paid off in advance entertainment and some wonderful, real, sweet, entertaining involvement, not to mention some great sex. my only problem now is how to weed them down. i may have to disappear.
titmouse
[QUOTE=Spam Hog]Wander:
Sorry about not getting back to you but I was in Hong Kong & Macau with the Mrs spending all my money etc. Anyhow a belated reply re your decision and a few of my cockeyed philosophies:
And my big question is....do you feel like you need a soul-mate. I hate even using the word, but is life like yours (which sounds like what mine would be) "lonely". I think if I were living off too little money it would. But to be able to travel in SEA and have at least decent money to kick around. Well, that may bridge the gap.
To sum up, every body needs somebody, we are genetically engineered to
seek a mate, sow our genes and pass them on just like a bull among cows.
Thats nature, now what seperates us from animals (Or from some mongers on this board he he he) is our need to be with one person, raise a family, care for that family and provide for them. It depends on how you were raised, I came from Irish working class stock, coal miners and grew up in western Penna in the fifties and sixties. Divorce came hard for me, I understand that it can be a scary thing even for us big tough guys, the feasr of the unknown is what is holding you back, it was for me and Im not ashamed to admidt it, thought I could salvage a marriage but I couldn't and didn't. leaving my culture and dwelling among strange peoples was equally scary but here is where the "swashbuckler" theory comes in, read on and I'll explain.
"I have an itch to live in the Phils and also work from the road in other countries. That's the other thing, I'm in IT, so I can do a lot of work from the road. Like Bankok road or Phnom Penh road."
All other suggestions more than welcome! Thanks Spamhog![/QUOTE]
AHA!!! A fellow swashbuckler!!!! Yes wander you are what the SH calls a Swashbuckler, (Like most of the people on this board!) Do you read? Well get ahold of James Mitchner (Spelling?) Author of "Hawaii" and read his book
"Rogues and rascals in Paradise" He chronicles true storys of our forebearers the original expats who first came to Asia through and after WW2.
You see, I agree with the authors acessment that some men yearn to live among alien people in "tropical paradise" setting, a place on the beach with a warm, willing, uninhibited brown woman. To adventure, the conquest that is what drives us, not just laying LBFM but the whole experience, business the desire to succeed against a culture that is against you, earn fantastic wealth just like the early "yankee traders" who set foot on stange lands and wrested
a fortune from it , damn all risk and danger. Nowadays we dont get on a ship and stuff a cutlass in our belts we come here armed with credit cards and
western inginuity using the skills we learned in our world to get by and profit in this one. It takes balls Wander, just to live here but once you do you weill see the kick you get from it.
The phils is centrally locted and you can always hop on a plane and go to bangkok for a hoot in nanplaza or "the png" or even to singapore with it high brow mongering or to hongkong and stay out all night in "the Wanch"
Get over your fears, muster your finances, work out a plan and do it!
Good luck
Spamhog[/QUOTE]
It's 4:15AM but I feel like a prick for taking so long to reply so at least something now and something later.
Spamhog, most of what I've had in "support" or the decision to split is "no, no, no" from family. Hearing your words of encourgement have been a very large help. They've made this a more BALANCED decision.
A friend from Taiwan said to me the other day "I hear you can live like a King in Cebu". I almost spat my food out. He was referring to things other than woman....cause I'm married now...but I am going to push through and get seperated. Then he will see it's nothing to do with being like a king. It's being a fuking SULTAN.
I also recall someone somewhere saying something to the effect that "marraige is for people that are not financially wealthy". Right now I'm not rich in the USA, but give me 1 more year of my IT work in the Phils, and with the costs there I will be rich. That being the case, and given that I've never had trouble getting girls anywhere anyway, why would I not want to spend my extra time with two girls wrapped around me, 15 years younger than me, on a beach that makes anywhere near my 1/2 respectible east coast USA city look like hell. (I've got Bohol in my miind right now).
I do come from a family where the "alternative" lifestyle of moving to a 3rd world country and staying divorced is an odd thing. There are no Playboys anywhere in my family...well they play with there wives and but they all work hard as hell and are well behaved. I'm going to be working hard also and other than my woman cravings have no real "vices", so other guys in my family will be a sorry sort in the "playing" department. Plus, I've already been to about 30 countries in SEA and Latin America (on the cheap when I was younger). No relative I know has done anything like that.
What makes this all easier is that my wife is not 100% good about the marriage. We're very different even though we truly will wish each other the best and even watch over each other. I haven't said anything final...but we're going to be making a semi-mutual decision in the next few weeks. And my decision is now final.
I'm so excited I can hardly contain myself. I know my company will finally make good money once I'm acually THERE. I've already got a year-round working visa. When I have total freedom, I'm going to travel my ass of with a laptop that has free-very cheap voice over the internet. I'm going to be ALL over SEA for a good 2 months.
Yea, I'm afraid "the grass is greener" is what is really going through me now...but I don't think so. The worste part of this will be having to answer questions from relatives as to why we seperated since we were supposedly such a great couple (who the fuk knows if a couple is great unless you've got their home wired!)
Hope to meet some of you since my 4-5 months over there will soon be about 10 a year.
Cheers.
I can only wish you all the best in your decision to try life in the Visayas.But I want to warn you Its not going to be a bed of roses.You will need to work hard and have a bit of luck.Basically though Cebu has become a little too small for me,That is why I started exploring Business oppurtunities in Manila ,Davao and China.
But you will be able to live extremely well in Cebu for a fraction of what it would cost in North America.To cite my personal example,My brothers graduated with MBA s from Stanford and MIT and opted to work for Multinationals for six figure salaries.But even with those salaries and the cost of living in San Francisco and New York.They have much lower standards of living then I do.I opted to follow the path of the entreprenuer and am the only one without an ivy league MBA.But again I feel the need for challenge,since doing business in Cebu no longer challenges me.Spam Hog hit it on the nail,that it takes a Swashbuckler personality to try a different path then your kith and kin.Growing up in a well off family in Vancouver should have geared me to a safe path with a Multinational company,But I found life too boring in Canada and that is what brought me to the PI to try my luck here.Good luck and Best Wishes on following the path less trodden.
Greetings from one former coal-cracker to another. Comforting to know some of us made it out.
[QUOTE=Spam Hog]Wander:
Sorry about not getting back to you but I was in Hong Kong & Macau with the Mrs spending all my money etc. Anyhow a belated reply re your decision and a few of my cockeyed philosophies:
And my big question is....do you feel like you need a soul-mate. I hate even using the word, but is life like yours (which sounds like what mine would be) "lonely". I think if I were living off too little money it would. But to be able to travel in SEA and have at least decent money to kick around. Well, that may bridge the gap.
To sum up, every body needs somebody, we are genetically engineered to
seek a mate, sow our genes and pass them on just like a bull among cows.
Thats nature, now what seperates us from animals (Or from some mongers on this board he he he) is our need to be with one person, raise a family, care for that family and provide for them. It depends on how you were raised, I came from Irish working class stock, coal miners and grew up in western Penna in the fifties and sixties. Divorce came hard for me, I understand that it can be a scary thing even for us big tough guys, the feasr of the unknown is what is holding you back, it was for me and Im not ashamed to admidt it, thought I could salvage a marriage but I couldn't and didn't. leaving my culture and dwelling among strange peoples was equally scary but here is where the "swashbuckler" theory comes in, read on and I'll explain.
"I have an itch to live in the Phils and also work from the road in other countries. That's the other thing, I'm in IT, so I can do a lot of work from the road. Like Bankok road or Phnom Penh road."
All other suggestions more than welcome! Thanks Spamhog![/QUOTE]
AHA!!! A fellow swashbuckler!!!! Yes wander you are what the SH calls a Swashbuckler, (Like most of the people on this board!) Do you read? Well get ahold of James Mitchner (Spelling?) Author of "Hawaii" and read his book
"Rogues and rascals in Paradise" He chronicles true storys of our forebearers the original expats who first came to Asia through and after WW2.
You see, I agree with the authors acessment that some men yearn to live among alien people in "tropical paradise" setting, a place on the beach with a warm, willing, uninhibited brown woman. To adventure, the conquest that is what drives us, not just laying LBFM but the whole experience, business the desire to succeed against a culture that is against you, earn fantastic wealth just like the early "yankee traders" who set foot on stange lands and wrested
a fortune from it , damn all risk and danger. Nowadays we dont get on a ship and stuff a cutlass in our belts we come here armed with credit cards and
western inginuity using the skills we learned in our world to get by and profit in this one. It takes balls Wander, just to live here but once you do you weill see the kick you get from it.
The phils is centrally locted and you can always hop on a plane and go to bangkok for a hoot in nanplaza or "the png" or even to singapore with it high brow mongering or to hongkong and stay out all night in "the Wanch"
Get over your fears, muster your finances, work out a plan and do it!
Good luck
Spamhog[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Cebu Local]I can only wish you all the best in your decision to try life in the Visayas.But I want to warn you Its not going to be a bed of roses.You will need to work hard and have a bit of luck.Basically though Cebu has become a little too small for me,That is why I started exploring Business oppurtunities in Manila ,Davao and China.
But you will be able to live extremely well in Cebu for a fraction of what it would cost in North America.To cite my personal example,My brothers graduated with MBA s from Stanford and MIT and opted to work for Multinationals for six figure salaries.But even with those salaries and the cost of living in San Francisco and New York.They have much lower standards of living then I do.I opted to follow the path of the entreprenuer and am the only one without an ivy league MBA.But again I feel the need for challenge,since doing business in Cebu no longer challenges me.Spam Hog hit it on the nail,that it takes a Swashbuckler personality to try a different path then your kith and kin.Growing up in a well off family in Vancouver should have geared me to a safe path with a Multinational company,But I found life too boring in Canada and that is what brought me to the PI to try my luck here.Good luck and Best Wishes on following the path less trodden.[/QUOTE]
CB,
I've always admired and learned a ton from all the great advise you've given on this board. Actually, I think you and I have a lot in common. Your family situation and mine is the same. As far as Cebu being too small, that's why I will be working on the road a lot. I can work from other cities for months at a time if I want and be in touch with my office.
Also, I'm "on an island" there work-wise. My office may as well be in a bubble there. All the work I do is for US IT clients. My only work interaction in cebu is with employees-- who I enjoy very much.
I do zero business in Cebu itself.
"life to boringing Canada....". Same for me. I just can't imagine a life in the suburbs with the picket fence and the contsraints and lack of freedom.
I'm looking forware to meeting you sometime. I bet i've seen you after spending 12 of the past 24 hours there. I'll be doing a lot of travel from Cebu, so I would look forward to buying some plaine tickes to other gems of the world like Bangkok and Phnom Pehn.
Cheers.
Somewhere else on this board I told one of the brethern who I thought was interested in moving to the Phils permanently that one could live like a "fuedal warlord", I was quite suprised at his response which included vilification heaped upon yours truly and others, but since I appear to be dealing with sane ration people here let me repeat:
In the Philippines and in most of Asia one with a western "income" be it pension, 401 K or just doing well in business can live like a Fuedal warlord. Servants, high walls, security subdivisions, people treating you like you are special even though your just another Joe average.
Just a note, the Spamhog lives on a generous US pension, dabbles in "consulting" here and there and sometimes plays the US stock market (Experimenting in the Philippines stock exchange lately also). Of all the worries I have, those financial are the LEAST, how many of the brethern living in the Western world can say that??? I have a very good lifestyle indeed. Just finished a tour of Hong Kong and Macau with my lady, had a great time, now thinking about Thailand after the first of the year.
But as Cebu local says, it aint all a bed of Roses, there IS A DOWNSIDE. Having lived, worked and mongered in Davao, Cagayan De Oro and now living in CEBU I must say there are things I miss about the good ol US, so it is a trade off.
Yes the ladies are the main atttraction and dont take this wrong but after a while the mongering lifestyle appeals to those who first arrive here but after awhile the novelty wears off and you will be looking for some stability. But first you must play around so Wander luster and the rest of you guys by all means visit and enjoy the PI but also use it as a central base from which to launch your mongering operations to Thailand, Singapore and Hong kong.
PS Wander luster if you do get to the Phils and want to have a sit down, just PM me and I'll give you my digits, I now reside in Cebu and I suggest you look into the place, better by far than Manila, lots of growth potential for new businesses of ANY sort and an international airport, cost of living cheaper than Manila too.
PPS You guys are EXACTLY what Im am talking about when I say ....Swashbucklers!!!
To HORSE! HAHHAHAHA! (Or is it "horse style"???)
The Spamhog
SpamHog,
When you say that someone with a "western income" can live like a feudal warlord, how much income are you talking about? I'm thinking about moving to the PI sometime in the future & although I make a pretty good income in the U.S. & have a 401k and a little other savings, I don't have a fortune saved up. I wouldn't need to live like a king, but would like to live decently & I wonder how much monthly or yearly I might need somewhere like Cebu. Obviously, it would depend on how much you spend, but if you or anyone else can give me any rough ideas, I'd appreciate it.
[QUOTE=Spam Hog]Somewhere else on this board I told one of the brethern who I thought was interested in moving to the Phils permanently that one could live like a "fuedal warlord", I was quite suprised at his response which included vilification heaped upon yours truly and others, but since I appear to be dealing with sane ration people here let me repeat:
In the Philippines and in most of Asia one with a western "income" be it pension, 401 K or just doing well in business can live like a Fuedal warlord. Servants, high walls, security subdivisions, people treating you like you are special even though your just another Joe average.
Just a note, the Spamhog lives on a generous US pension, dabbles in "consulting" here and there and sometimes plays the US stock market (Experimenting in the Philippines stock exchange lately also). Of all the worries I have, those financial are the LEAST, how many of the brethern living in the Western world can say that??? I have a very good lifestyle indeed. Just finished a tour of Hong Kong and Macau with my lady, had a great time, now thinking about Thailand after the first of the year.
But as Cebu local says, it aint all a bed of Roses, there IS A DOWNSIDE. Having lived, worked and mongered in Davao, Cagayan De Oro and now living in CEBU I must say there are things I miss about the good ol US, so it is a trade off.
Yes the ladies are the main atttraction and dont take this wrong but after a while the mongering lifestyle appeals to those who first arrive here but after awhile the novelty wears off and you will be looking for some stability. But first you must play around so Wander luster and the rest of you guys by all means visit and enjoy the PI but also use it as a central base from which to launch your mongering operations to Thailand, Singapore and Hong kong.
PS Wander luster if you do get to the Phils and want to have a sit down, just PM me and I'll give you my digits, I now reside in Cebu and I suggest you look into the place, better by far than Manila, lots of growth potential for new businesses of ANY sort and an international airport, cost of living cheaper than Manila too.
PPS You guys are EXACTLY what Im am talking about when I say ....Swashbucklers!!!
To HORSE! HAHHAHAHA! (Or is it "horse style"???)
The Spamhog[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Spam Hog]PPS You guys are EXACTLY what Im am talking about when I say ....Swashbucklers!!!
The Spamhog[/QUOTE]
Sorry for foolish question, but what the heck is a "swashbuckler"?
Me from Europe, never heard the word........ Some US or Aussie slang word?
Cheers!
[QUOTE=Ekspat]Sorry for foolish question, but what the heck is a "swashbuckler"?
Me from Europe, never heard the word........ Some US or Aussie slang word?
Cheers![/QUOTE]Its a synonym for PIRATE.You know seeking adventure,wenches,treasure etc.
[QUOTE=Steve74]SpamHog,
When you say that someone with a "western income" can live like a feudal warlord, how much income are you talking about? I'm thinking about moving to the PI sometime in the future & although I make a pretty good income in the U.S. & have a 401k and a little other savings, I don't have a fortune saved up. I wouldn't need to live like a king, but would like to live decently & I wonder how much monthly or yearly I might need somewhere like Cebu. Obviously, it would depend on how much you spend, but if you or anyone else can give me any rough ideas, I'd appreciate it.[/QUOTE]Here you can live reasonably well for 1000 dollars a month.Heres a breakdown rent 100 dollars for a decent apartment,40 dollars maids salary for 1 month,Cost of eating out DAILY for Lunch and Dinner at Midrange restaurants 100 -120 dollars.Girl on Junquera 10 dollars,Girl at bar 20-30 dollars,Beer at a Bar sixty cents.Massage at a Spa 5 dollars.Have fun
[QUOTE=Cebu Local]Here you can live reasonably well for 1000 dollars a month.Heres a breakdown rent 100 dollars for a decent apartment,40 dollars maids salary for 1 month,Cost of eating out DAILY for Lunch and Dinner at Midrange restaurants 100 -120 dollars.Girl on Junquera 10 dollars,Girl at bar 20-30 dollars,Beer at a Bar sixty cents.Massage at a Spa 5 dollars.Have fun[/QUOTE]
Perhaps Earl Flynn exemplified hollywoods version of a "swashbuckler" and coined the term in reference to his movies meaning anything but dull and usually colorful, full of action etc, however, some say his private life was more ribal,exciting, exhuberant and well... anyhow a few technical answers.
Regarding income and living large it depends on what you consider extravagant also, as any real estate agent will tell you Location, location, location. So here are a few figures from different areas. Please NOTE all theese number are DIRRECTLY RELATED TO YOUR BIGGEST EXPENSE: THE RENT!!! so here goes.
A. DAVAO CITY. Retired, disabled, lives on social security of about $1,200 a month, rents a house P 12,000 a month which is "Foreigner grade" amenities including hot water heater) has a nice wife and two kids. She drives him around in a little van, Lives very well considering he was living in his parents basement three years ago.
B. DAVAO CITY, Retired, Social security $1,100, NO SAVINGS, married young wife just had a baby, bought a house for P 1.3 mil. furnished, nice, guy is a master chef his kitchen looks like something martha STuart would whip up a meal in.
C. Cagayan De oro, US Military Disabled, I estimate around $2500 a month. His rent is cheap around P5000 a month for a three BR Apartment. Bought his wife a car, Guys drinks a lot too.
D. Know a Aussie in CDO who just bought a nice house near the new SM mall paid around 2 Mil P for it, place looks like a palace, Big Screen TV etc.
E. Guy in Butuan runs a small fishing trading business, wife owns a beauty parlor, claims he lives entirely on his income from the fish, I estimate about P30,000 a month saves his pension to go back to Aussie land every year.
E. CEbU, break down of Bills etc.
Most rents here range from Cheap (P 7,500 for an efficiency apartment) to rather expensive like P25,000 for a two story house and lot some Expat US is advertising completely furnished. I rent a nice house in a Guarded subdivision for P14,000 a month. Prices to rent or buy are a little more here, compared to Davao city and CDO. Rents and buys are cheaper in Mandaue or Lapu Lapu city but not that much.
MY BILLS:
Electricity P1200 to P2,000 a month depending on AC and computer use
Cable. P690 a month, Phone (PLDT) P720 unless I start making long distance to the US without using a phone card, Water (Bi monthly) P366.
Some other expenses: Drinking water P180 A month,
Cell phone: Me negligable Mrs Spamhog who texts the world about P1000 a month. Insurance for Car P8,500 a year. Gym Fees P 800 to P1000 a month.
FOOD: Here is the big variable, gnetleman I like my US cereal and campbelss soup etc. This is my largest expense outside of Rent, Also a varienace on entertainment depending onwhat you like to do. I dont drink or smoke, usually take the Mrs out dancing every so often, somethimes go to Casino Filipino or visit a nice resturaunt like the tinderbox where I can get western food, Movies of course.
Cut through all the BS and My monthly expenses come to around P60,000 a month. My expenses in Davao were a bit less. This includes a stipend of course to needy relatives and Nieces nursing school. Yeah YOU are gonna end up paying the relative tax here IF you got a steady GF or wife so get used to it!
Hope this helps, I imagine Manila expenses are gonna be more.
Spamhog
[QUOTE=Spam Hog]
Cut through all the BS and My monthly expenses come to around P60,000 a month. My expenses in Davao were a bit less. This includes a stipend of course to needy relatives and Nieces nursing school. Yeah YOU are gonna end up paying the relative tax here IF you got a steady GF or wife so get used to it!
Hope this helps, I imagine Manila expenses are gonna be more.
Spamhog[/QUOTE]That was very helpful. It seems that living expenses in Cebu / Davao are 20% to 25% of those which one would incur in Canada.
Here's my take on some costs:
Best deals are service related:
Haircut is I about $1 for same as a $15 cut in usa.
Legit message is one of best deals...yep, $5 and I recomment a GUY and let him be a little on the rougher side (wear some body armor around private parts if your scared). I go to Body and Sol, and so should you. When a woman does it I there I tend to get a woody which can be frustrating because I don't even think you could get a hand-job at any of Body and Sol.
I paid a crazy low price for a beutiful 1 bedroom fully furnished...forget maybe $220 8 minute drive to Ayala. Maid came once a week. Adorable 20 year old lived with the family that owned the building and washed clothes. Would have loved to bone her, but they already saw me come home with different girls all the time and someone might have gotten pissed at me.
On another note, the best peice of advice I have is do outsourcing! Doesn't matter what the scale is. Point is if you have contact in the US you can save them money by have the work done in the phils and be giving work and better pay to someone that reallllllly needs it.
Think of simple computer work for example. be the go between for 1 or more small businesses and people in cebu. run an ad to recruit people (and if you can't hire them they might end up wanting to sleep with you). Office is your home or Net cafe if you want.
A 1/4 page ad in the mostly highly read sunday employment section, sun star, is about $125. Interviews in cafe...that's what i did before signing office space.
With an ad like that you could easily get 200 applicants for siimple computer work. NETWORK this way. Just don't BS, because you don't want people getting pissed off at you.
By the way, it's been asked a million times I'm sure, but what do you all think the ASEAN summit will do for real estate investment? It will bring a lot of new biz to cebu and make the city more prosperous. Will also bring new RE investors with the new jobs.
Is there any kind of buble there now? I wouldn't be wanting to buy for another 6-12 months.
How do condo and housing costs in good areas compare to in average places in US? I guess on average about 60K for a nice "foreigner" 1 bedroom condo in cebu....something like that. Haven't looked at houses yet but I think 150K could buy a pretty nice house that would be 300K in US in a very average US neighborhood?
Interesting post. Comparing posters on the Philippines thread with those on the Argentina thread, there seems to be no equivalent of Dickhead. I mean no one seems to go native or near native price wise.
Your first mate, $1,200 a month, that would be big money in Davao. Why can he not live on half of that, keeping the other half for back up? I imagine, lke Thailand, a goodly number of foreigners [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] it all way and then wake up.
Also, some of your other examples bought houses. But foreigners can't own houses, right? Davao girls do sound a better bet than Angeles bicycles.
Wander Luster: some good ideas there. But I wonder how dependable the Pinoys would be for outsourcing work? Not very, I should imagine.
Thanks guys for those breakdowns of costs helps me get a good idea what I can do once there.
[QUOTE=Martians]Interesting post. Comparing posters on the Philippines thread with those on the Argentina thread, there seems to be no equivalent of Dickhead. I mean no one seems to go native or near native price wise.
Your first mate, $1,200 a month, that would be big money in Davao. Why can he not live on half of that, keeping the other half for back up? I imagine, lke Thailand, a goodly number of foreigners [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] it all way and then wake up.
Also, some of your other examples bought houses. But foreigners can't own houses, right? Davao girls do sound a better bet than Angeles bicycles.
Wander Luster: some good ideas there. But I wonder how dependable the Pinoys would be for outsourcing work? Not very, I should imagine.[/QUOTE]Actually there are about 500,000 pinoys working in the outsourcing industry.Convergys alone has 9,500 employees.There are a lot more incoming,Regarding land ownership Pinay wives can own property and since Land can be conjugal.It is your house as a couple and Yes Davao normal girls are a world away from Angeles Bar girls.Thats why a lot here MARRIED them.Cheers
[QUOTE=John Dust]That was very helpful. It seems that living expenses in Cebu / Davao are 20% to 25% of those which one would incur in Canada.[/QUOTE]
It's true, it's a hell of a lot less expensive to live here, but there are some caveats. The purchase of imported goods here, including western food and Japanese cars is expensive and can often cost more than in North American and/or Europe. Ditto for imported electronics including Sony TVs, stereos, computers, and the like. Fuel costs are about equivalent to US prices and fuel shortages (though rarer now) are not unheard of. The cost of electricity is not very different from what you would encounter in the US, though it's not as reliable. If you have kids, and you want to send them to a good private school, it's going to cost you $7-$9,000 per kid per year.
The bottom line here is that to the extent you want to live like a westerner, the more expensive life is going to be for you in certain respects.
:D
GE
Comparing the QUALITY of real estate, condos houses etc to US and other Developed nations is hard to do, remember that most houses here are made of LOCALLY PRODUCED material which is all that great. I'v'e been in P10 Mil homes and the pipes leak and toilets dont flush just like they dont in some
low cost Luan/plywood tin roof deal in a a squatter area.
I often mention "foreigner" grade houses that means that you have a roof that doesn't leak, plumbing that kinda works and breaker switches instread of a jury rigged circuit box. Probably has a tile floor and US style appliances perhaps even a frost free fridge and a microwave oven, the "biggie" is a hot water heater so you dont have to heat up water with a tea kettle and pour in a pail to take a bath. These are the best you can hope for. I've seen some houses where they get down right gaudy with the architecture and fixtures.
Many of the Condo's I've seen in the Cebu area are nice, if you want to live in a condo, personally I couldn't stand it, but the up side is that you can "own" it in a sense w/o a Wife, rather its like a 50 year lease. Rule of thumb here concerning cost is: ALL THINGS ARE DETERMINED in SQUARE METER (sqm2) Houses generally go for between P3500 to P10,000 per SQM2 in Cebu, cheaper else where, (Davao) Raw land also in that range depending on location.
Many small developments like Ayala land, Pryce corp etc are selling house and lot packages most of the houses/lots are the 110 to 150 SQM2 range.
with many payment plans and built to suit with 20% down. Once again your wife can own TITLE to the land, you can't.
I've got a lot of hopes for this ASEAN summit, hope they get more international business going in CEBU, I personally feel the potential for business here is many times greater than in Manila and Davao is just oo out of the way, sorry.
Outsourcing, Im suprised MORE outsourcing by US companies is not being done in the Phils, it seems India is getting a lot of that business. My understanding is also that some is being done in Manila, once again with all the good schools here and eager young talent I think Cebu would be an excellent place for any sort of outsourcing. A few years back I met a guy in Davao who was trying to start outsourcing in Davao, plenty of qualified applicants, but I don;t know why he never got off the ground.
Regards
Spamhog
[QUOTE=Martians]
Wander Luster: some good ideas there. But I wonder how dependable the Pinoys would be for outsourcing work? Not very, I should imagine.[/QUOTE]
You know, I have two employees that I would trust as much of a sibling. They are very loyal people! But ANYONE in a DESPERATE situation will so bad things. So if your trust is with someone that is settled in the community and is not poor and you are really a "boss" figure that they look up to and admire, you have tremendous respect. The mere fact that a "boss" is given so much respect as compared to the US means something to me.
Do you know that they even call some people in the office "Master" as in "you are a 'master' of your trade". That's amazing.
And then it is so odd that a white guy dressed like crap (as I might do when going to the beach) is "sir" but i don't think a 1/2 decent dressed guy would be called sir if he is native.
In terms of the money. It's all the same as being in your home country. I will always want to save money when I'm living there just as here.
[QUOTE=GoodEnough]It's true, it's a hell of a lot less expensive to live here, but there are some caveats. The purchase of imported goods here, including western food and Japanese cars is expensive and can often cost more than in North American and/or Europe. Ditto for imported electronics including Sony TVs, stereos, computers, and the like. Fuel costs are about equivalent to US prices and fuel shortages (though rarer now) are not unheard of. The cost of electricity is not very different from what you would encounter in the US, though it's not as reliable. If you have kids, and you want to send them to a good private school, it's going to cost you $7-$9,000 per kid per year.
The bottom line here is that to the extent you want to live like a westerner, the more expensive life is going to be for you in certain respects.
:D
GE[/QUOTE]
A lot of this comes down to whether you have said "BYE!" to your western country. I've not intention of that. At least one trip a year back home. When you come back you bring all electronics..like even computer....and the many other things that are more expensive. unfortunately, can't bring a car on a plaine.
I usually pay $1200 for a round trip ticket from a not too big city on the east coast usa to cebu via HK direct into Cebu and the #1 airline in the world, Cathey (rated #1). After flying a lot with them, they give me all biz class privilages accept my seat.
I can cut line, I get tons of free food in HK or LA in there great lounge, and more.
[QUOTE=Spam Hog]Comparing the QUALITY of real estate, condos houses etc to US and other Developed nations is hard to do, remember that most houses here are made of LOCALLY PRODUCED material which is all that great. I'v'e been in P10 Mil homes and the pipes leak and toilets dont flush just like they dont in some
low cost Luan/plywood tin roof deal in a a squatter area.
I often mention "foreigner" grade houses that means that you have a roof that doesn't leak, plumbing that kinda works and breaker switches instread of a jury rigged circuit box. Probably has a tile floor and US style appliances perhaps even a frost free fridge and a microwave oven, the "biggie" is a hot water heater so you dont have to heat up water with a tea kettle and pour in a pail to take a bath. These are the best you can hope for. I've seen some houses where they get down right gaudy with the architecture and fixtures.
Many of the Condo's I've seen in the Cebu area are nice, if you want to live in a condo, personally I couldn't stand it, but the up side is that you can "own" it in a sense w/o a Wife, rather its like a 50 year lease. Rule of thumb here concerning cost is: ALL THINGS ARE DETERMINED in SQUARE METER (sqm2) Houses generally go for between P3500 to P10,000 per SQM2 in Cebu, cheaper else where, (Davao) Raw land also in that range depending on location.
Many small developments like Ayala land, Pryce corp etc are selling house and lot packages most of the houses/lots are the 110 to 150 SQM2 range.
with many payment plans and built to suit with 20% down. Once again your wife can own TITLE to the land, you can't.
I've got a lot of hopes for this ASEAN summit, hope they get more international business going in CEBU, I personally feel the potential for business here is many times greater than in Manila and Davao is just oo out of the way, sorry.
Outsourcing, Im suprised MORE outsourcing by US companies is not being done in the Phils, it seems India is getting a lot of that business. My understanding is also that some is being done in Manila, once again with all the good schools here and eager young talent I think Cebu would be an excellent place for any sort of outsourcing. A few years back I met a guy in Davao who was trying to start outsourcing in Davao, plenty of qualified applicants, but I don;t know why he never got off the ground.
Regards
Spamhog[/QUOTE]
A lot of the bright kids from mindinau will tell you that the "word is out" that Cebu is the place for them to go for a better job market.
I don't know the numbers of US companies coming in, but I see a huge increase in competition for my area of computer work. Look at the IT park, there's a heck of a lot of ground being broken. These buildings are not for Phils companies, and I know of one going up that will bring a lot of high profile outsourcing jobs (fairly "glamorous" work for a lot of people).
Already there aren't nearly enough good english speakers for the call center jobs.
I often try to talk some of the bar girls into applying at call centers. They have gone 1/2 through university and there English in a couple cases is definately better then the many call center employees I've met (the've applied for jobs or I met them through online dating sites).
As for the education, I don't read up on it but I really wonder if it's over-rated. People iin the Phils seem to have a lot of pride for schools like San Carlos, but I really don't know if they are anything like what you would get at a good uni in Europe or US. I know one thing is the profs get paid shit. I mean just dirt pay if they are locals.
Some interesting posts gents.
Related to the discussion is this articl I just came across. Apparently 266,000 Filipinos are now working in the call centers.
[url]http://www.voanews.com/english/2006-10-12-voa17.cfm[/url]
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[QUOTE=Wander Luster]I often try to talk some of the bar girls into applying at call centers. They have gone 1/2 through university and there English in a couple cases is definately better then the many call center employees I've met (the've applied for jobs or I met them through online dating sites).[/QUOTE]
Yeah, most bargirls are graduates of the famous Chicken Shit University...they tell me exactly the same story!!! Often right after calling me handsome guy..so they can't be lying!...Still they have to suck titis for a living..amazing...
Seriously though..halfway thru uni won't cut it usually. While it is often NOT required that they have graduated..AT LEAST 3-4 yrs of uni studies is usually the requirement to work in a call center. If they will work taking phone orders for US porn companies, this may be disregarded though. Part of the reason why these jobs are located in Phils is that the US porn buyers often make sexual jokes, wank off, make noises etc while placing their orders. Of course filipinas are better cut out to handle these calls than their more sensitive American sisters.
[QUOTE=Wander Luster]A lot of the bright kids from mindinau will tell you that the "word is out" that Cebu is the place for them to go for a better job market.
I don't know the numbers of US companies coming in, but I see a huge increase in competition for my area of computer work. Look at the IT park, there's a heck of a lot of ground being broken. These buildings are not for Phils companies, and I know of one going up that will bring a lot of high profile outsourcing jobs (fairly "glamorous" work for a lot of people).
Already there aren't nearly enough good english speakers for the call center jobs.
I often try to talk some of the bar girls into applying at call centers. They have gone 1/2 through university and there English in a couple cases is definately better then the many call center employees I've met (the've applied for jobs or I met them through online dating sites).
As for the education, I don't read up on it but I really wonder if it's over-rated. People iin the Phils seem to have a lot of pride for schools like San Carlos, but I really don't know if they are anything like what you would get at a good uni in Europe or US. I know one thing is the profs get paid shit. I mean just dirt pay if they are locals.[/QUOTE]
Last month's IT Conference was held in Cebu, which is investing millions of pesos in trying to create a strong IT backbone to attract foreign investors. In this regard, it's ahead of many other places in the southern Philippines. Davao too is investing heaviliy, and is in the midst of completing its first IT center. That's the good news.
The bad news is that the skill level of the available labor pool in terms of program, computer animation and the more creative side of IT is fairly shallow, and the quality of computer education/computer engineering here is not where near the standard that you would find in the US or, for that matter in India. Unfortunately, the country is either unwilling or unable to invest in improving the quality of IT-related education here. That's not to say that there's no talent, but the talent pool is fairly shallow.
Virtually all call centers here require a BS or BA of their employees. Even then, an estimated 95% of the applicants fail the English Language test.
:D
GE
Spam Hog and Cebu Local:
I wish to offer a sincere thank you for taking the time to document and share some very helpful economic intel for guys like myself who are considering retiring in Cebu in the future. Really some good insights here! Would be happy to buy you guys a round or two then next time I am in Cebu, although at this point it is uncertain as to when that will be.
Cebu Local, I have gone through some of your posting history, and we share a lot of things in common in terms of relationships and geography. I am certain that we could have some interesting talks one day. Sorry that I missed when I was in Cebu back in February.
Raz
For the mongers who are interested in retiring or otherwise moving to the Phils, there are groups on Yahoo that are aimed at the expats who live there or are considering it. The groups I know about are moderated by Americans with the exception of one that is moderated by an Aussie. I'm sure if I searched harder, I could find more groups, but I have enough to look at already. Mongering is barely mentioned in those forums, but then we have ISG for that. These other groups are good for reading about many other aspects of life in the Phils, both cultural and practical. That could be helpful to someone who's considering a temporary or permanent move.
I joined this site 48 hours ago and the e-mails have been pouring in.
Now i need advice from those in the know.
How many are scammers on this site, as some have wasted no time in hinting that i should send them money.
(No I don't have mug stamped on my head)
I am not stupid but of the ones i have spoken to 50% were asking for money at the first chat.
Are there genuine people there?
Any advice is appreciated
Peter
[QUOTE=Budgie]I joined this site 48 hours ago and the e-mails have been pouring in.
Now i need advice from those in the know.
How many are scammers on this site, as some have wasted no time in hinting that i should send them money.
(No I don't have mug stamped on my head)
I am not stupid but of the ones i have spoken to 50% were asking for money at the first chat.
Are there genuine people there?
Any advice is appreciated
Peter[/QUOTE]
I have long been a detractor of this site, I know of MANY horror stories originating from CB, but to be honest as many from Filipinaheart, adultfriendfinder and from the plain old Yahoo chats etc. So I suppose that
nowadays the 50% odds would be prevailant no matter where you seek. yes there are legitimate females seeking honest relationships as long as you understand that you are not the only one they are corresponding with, they will go and meet the first guy who comes to see them and likely snag him (marriage) if they can, so my advise is if you are seeking sincere relationship (or just a few fun flings) dont hesitate too long, also keep good relations with several of them so if one dont work out you have a fall back plan.
As far as getting hit up for money the first time or two you chat, well that is an obvious scammer or operator, what you have to be careful of is the ones who seem so damn sincere and then hit you up three months down the road when you have some feeling towards them.
Honesty is the best policy, tell the girls upfront you are not a fool and you dont send money just coz they ask and if they do ask you will wave them on just like you have with the ones who pulled that shit on you before that should weed out most of them, the rest is up to you.
good luck
Spamhog
Well thanks for the advice.
I am now running out of mailbox space as so many have replied.
Its 100% now for those I have replied to all mention not having money to scan photos, etc.
One has a UK visa and needs a ticket to come here.
Do they think we are led by our penis and are walking ATM's.
I think this site has more scammers that real people.
Thanks for the advice.
Peter
ditto what Spamhog said. I will offer another bit of advice: I put right on my profile that I was NOT into chatting. The scammers will rarely take the time to enage in lengthy email exchanges with personal detail, so the key is no matter how cute the picture (which may well be fake) , I weed them out from the very start by the amount of personal detail that is in their emails.
Perhaps nobody will believe this, but I never had one come right out and ask for money. Yes some will hint about their economic problems, but a mere response like "yea, I know times are hard in the Philippines" (rather than an offer to send money) seems to quell the urge to outright ask for $.
I can only speak for myself, but I met several regular girls through Cherryblossoms, including one that has become my girlfriend whom I may well keep for a real long time.
[QUOTE=Surfer]Perhaps nobody will believe this, but I never had one come right out and ask for money. I can only speak for myself, but I met several regular girls through Cherryblossoms[/QUOTE]
Yes I believe! I've been a member for over 2 years and never once been asked for money. Also met plenty of quality women some of which I consider good friends.
From my experience, the quality of the individual that applies to me for a job is very bright, eager and has a good work ethic.
Somebody asked about the quality of the graduate/education here? Take a typical example of a terrific young student taking Computer Studies at University. In most cases he/she will not have a computer at home. Even if they did, they could not afford the software packages necessary for them to gain competence (although you can often buy some pirated software for 100p, many programs are inaccessible).
Where else can they get the practice they need to become good at their profession? The University? The computer labs are small, so each student only has very limited access. Even then, the University cannot afford to buy too many copies of expensive software such as in animation.
The end result is that a graduate comes out of university with theoretical knowledge, but very little practical. If the student has to find his/her own way to gain the practical knowledge.
The problem here is the one faced all over the Philippines - a lack of money. What money there is is often skimmed-off by less-than-honest officials. So, although many of these young applicants are bright and ready to learn, they really don't have much of a university education. If you hire them, you must be willing to do most of the educating yourself.
I don't want to seem too disparaging. There are plenty of great people to hire here in the Philippines. Just be aware of what you will likely be getting.
Cheers,
Like Mattrick and Surfer, I've had pretty good luck with CB. I've met several women, screwed about 40%, and had few problems with scammers. I wonder if some of you guys have something in your profile that attracts the parasites. ***Side note...had a lot of fun with a real cuty in Davao, but she tried to scam me after the fact. I might just meet her again in January.
Oh, just 'cause a woman says she doesn't have money for scanning her pictures doesn't mean she's a scammer. Many of these girls are poor, I can assure you that.
Surfer doesn't chat, but I recommend it. CB doesn't allow you to send your email address on the first message. This is an inconvenience. Get her in the chat room, and you can share info as you please. I recommend getting her email address and phone number as soon as possible.
Keeping track of all your booty is the difficult part. I don't go to CB much anymore, but I used to print out pages of women I was interested in and then write the contact info on the paper. If you travel with a laptop, record keeping would be much easier. Next best alternative is a memory stick.
I also use a screen capture to copy the images when girls are on cam. good for record keeping, and you never know when someone is going to show you skin.
On cam, you might want to see the bod? I would never say "stand up", but some guys do it. Making comments about their blouse often gets them to show you more --- works best when they have some wording on their t-shirt..."hey, baby, I can't read what it says." Another ploy is to ask about favorite colors..."Huh, your favorite color is blue, so why are you wearing pink pants?" She just might stand up and show you.
As for scams: the most disgusting one was some btch from Leyte who said her family lost everything in the mudslide. Hmmm, lost everything, just barely survived...and the first thing she does is go to a Net cafe to chat. Yea right.
A few others...need money for food (huh, but you have money for the Net cafe?)
...sick and need money for medicine (huh, if you are sick, why are you in the Net cafe?)
BTW, I've bumped into a few ladies who were very sensitive cause some dickhead accused her of scamming. Just because a few try, is no reason to insult Filipina women in general. Look up stereotype and racism and ugly American if you don't get it.
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[QUOTE=Pute Nut]Yeah, most bargirls are graduates of the famous Chicken Shit University...they tell me exactly the same story!!! Often right after calling me handsome guy..so they can't be lying!...Still they have to suck titis for a living..amazing...
Seriously though..halfway thru uni won't cut it usually. While it is often NOT required that they have graduated..AT LEAST 3-4 yrs of uni studies is usually the requirement to work in a call center. If they will work taking phone orders for US porn companies, this may be disregarded though. Part of the reason why these jobs are located in Phils is that the US porn buyers often make sexual jokes, wank off, make noises etc while placing their orders. Of course filipinas are better cut out to handle these calls than their more sensitive American sisters.[/QUOTE]
EVERYONE says they spent time in uni-- I'm not that dumb. Even if I were dumb, after 12 full monthys of spending time in one Phils city with a limited number of bars you get at least some idea of the real deal. I remember one girl told me she went to uni. That same time when we went for a beer in a bar, she asked me "Is Thailand a country" and I nearly spat the brew all over her. Grade 4 graduate?
Personally I would rather talk to someone with just a high school degree that speak in I way I understand vs. some of the college grads in India who work in call centers, may be great people, but who have accents which cause serious problems in communicating.
Notice I referred to a very small number that I would refere as able to apply for those jobs...very small. In cebu, I do think you are estimating how many have a year or 2.
Don't know where you got the "AT LEAST" part. That's not true in Cebu. They're so fucking desperate they would hire someone out of the gutter if they thought the english skills were good enough. But that is CEBU...and there is a massive shortage of people to fill the jobs. Maybe you work in this industry?
Your info about the porn industry is very insightful. Didn't know about that, but do know about all kinds of other "Adult Industry" work that is "outsourced" and very secrative-- None of which I want anything to do with since much of it can land a person in big trouble.
[QUOTE=GoodEnough]Last month's IT Conference was held in Cebu, which is investing millions of pesos in trying to create a strong IT backbone to attract foreign investors. In this regard, it's ahead of many other places in the southern Philippines. Davao too is investing heaviliy, and is in the midst of completing its first IT center. That's the good news.
The bad news is that the skill level of the available labor pool in terms of program, computer animation and the more creative side of IT is fairly shallow, and the quality of computer education/computer engineering here is not where near the standard that you would find in the US or, for that matter in India. Unfortunately, the country is either unwilling or unable to invest in improving the quality of IT-related education here. That's not to say that there's no talent, but the talent pool is fairly shallow.
Virtually all call centers here require a BS or BA of their employees. Even then, an estimated 95% of the applicants fail the English Language test.
:D
GE[/QUOTE]
You are spot on about all this, Good Enough. There are really a lot of great posts on this thread with info about the talent pool that is the sort that doesn't take their painties of for money.
I've been trying to fill TWO , just TWO, IT jobs for 4 months and am advertising and having my HR head interview constantly. STILL no one. A year ago, the same size ad drew litterally 40 times more responces. We don't want to have to do a lot of training, but the may be the only option.
Best service outsourcing to do is hiring people out of college who are then doing semi skilled jobs (semi skilled is what many recent college grads do when out of a US college).
Tooch, what you say is also concise and so true. If you want someone that already has skills, they didn't get them in college..but there are ways in which the college work does help. Really I know about IT work...something like trying to export stuff...hiring for that I don't know.
[QUOTE=Spam Hog]I have long been a detractor of this site, I know of MANY horror stories originating from CB, but to be honest as many from Filipinaheart, adultfriendfinder and from the plain old Yahoo chats etc. So I suppose that
nowadays the 50% odds would be prevailant no matter where you seek. yes there are legitimate females seeking honest relationships as long as you understand that you are not the only one they are corresponding with, they will go and meet the first guy who comes to see them and likely snag him (marriage) if they can, so my advise is if you are seeking sincere relationship (or just a few fun flings) dont hesitate too long, also keep good relations with several of them so if one dont work out you have a fall back plan.
As far as getting hit up for money the first time or two you chat, well that is an obvious scammer or operator, what you have to be careful of is the ones who seem so damn sincere and then hit you up three months down the road when you have some feeling towards them.
Honesty is the best policy, tell the girls upfront you are not a fool and you dont send money just coz they ask and if they do ask you will wave them on just like you have with the ones who pulled that shit on you before that should weed out most of them, the rest is up to you.
good luck
Spamhog[/QUOTE]
Great advice. I agree the worste are those you don't expect and even THEY may not expect until their brother convinces them.
I had the sweetest thing for a part time GF. Then she started having "problems" and needing money for things. For 5 months I was with her off and on (depending on our scedules and where we were geographically, RE: that was casual and she like that) didn't really buy her much too special because I refused to let us be about money.
[QUOTE=Wander Luster]You are spot on about all this, Good Enough. There are really a lot of great posts on this thread with info about the talent pool that is the sort that doesn't take their painties of for money.
I've been trying to fill TWO , just TWO, IT jobs for 4 months and am advertising and having my HR head interview constantly. STILL no one. A year ago, the same size ad drew litterally 40 times more responces. We don't want to have to do a lot of training, but the may be the only option.
Best service outsourcing to do is hiring people out of college who are then doing semi skilled jobs (semi skilled is what many recent college grads do when out of a US college).
Tooch, what you say is also concise and so true. If you want someone that already has skills, they didn't get them in college..but there are ways in which the college work does help. Really I know about IT work...something
ike trying to export stuff...hiring for that I don't know.[/QUOTE]
Ultimately, everything in the PI comes down to one variable; the lack of money. It explains the motivation of the women that most of us chase and bed, and it explains the lack of an adequate talent pool as well. There's simply no money to invest in education and, even if sufficient funds somehow magically appeared, there's no substantive instructional pool who could teach the students to an acceptable level of international skill.i really think, in the light of the experience of my own company, which has been in business here for more than 30 years,the only viable alternative is to find bright people and train them yourself. Every now and then you can also "steal" someone from a competitor; someone who has already been trained by someone else, but such people are tough to find as well.
Another problem, and one that's just as difficult to solve, is to find people who are willing to be held accountable and conversely, who are comfortable, or at least wiling to make decisions. If you're trying to create a management structure, it's critical that at some level managers be held accountable for performance. Not here.
I'm now--on behalf of my company--part of a group that's trying ti figure out how to attract more ICT business to Mindanao and it's obvious that it's going to be a long, hard struggle. Not only is there a need to strengthen the IT "backbone" which suffers from frequent power failures, too few ISPs, lack of tech support, etc., but the people needed to fill the positions just aren't there. And of course, there's no money to train the people who aren't there unless non-governmental sources are willing to fund the skills training.
It is not a hopeful situation.
:D
GE
[QUOTE=GoodEnough]Ultimately, everything in the PI comes down to one variable; the lack of money. It explains the motivation of the women that most of us chase and bed, and it explains the lack of an adequate talent pool as well. There's simply no money to invest in education and, even if sufficient funds somehow magically appeared, there's no substantive instructional pool who could teach the students to an acceptable level of international skill.i really think, in the light of the experience of my own company, which has been in business here for more than 30 years,the only viable alternative is to find bright people and train them yourself. Every now and then you can also "steal" someone from a competitor; someone who has already been trained by someone else, but such people are tough to find as well.
Another problem, and one that's just as difficult to solve, is to find people who are willing to be held accountable and conversely, who are comfortable, or at least wiling to make decisions. If you're trying to create a management structure, it's critical that at some level managers be held accountable for performance. Not here.
I'm now--on behalf of my company--part of a group that's trying ti figure out how to attract more ICT business to Mindanao and it's obvious that it's going to be a long, hard struggle. Not only is there a need to strengthen the IT "backbone" which suffers from frequent power failures, too few ISPs, lack of tech support, etc., but the people needed to fill the positions just aren't there. And of course, there's no money to train the people who aren't there unless non-governmental sources are willing to fund the skills training.
It is not a hopeful situation.
:D
GE[/QUOTE]I face a Similiar problem in the hospitality Industry,The level of service and training is simply not there.The moment They get a little experience,Off they go overseas.I recently lost 3 staff at the same time to the Somerset In Dubai and the IT I trained for 2 years is now in the Intercontinental Dubai.I cannot blame them given the lack of oppurtunity in the PI.I suspect the talent is still there,Just not in the PI.
ge says the lack of money is the root of the problem. but the families who own the philippines are loaded and their family relatives who are bishops and generals do not lack for a buck either.
cl complains those he trained high tail it to dubai. maybe they prefer a living wage to a pittance. cl has also previously praised “venture capitalists” funding pawn shops as some kind of budding pioneers instead of the leeches that they are and that they were in dickens’ time in england. no country needs those people. they are an utter disgrace to humanity and should not be consorted with but avoided like the moral lepers they are.
ge goes on about the lack of infrastructure for it in mindanao. but what infrastructure is there for anything? comparing india to the philippines is like comparing oranges to mondays. if the attraction is dirt low wages, don’t expect growth. plus any projects would have a swarm of connected families around the honeypot; their greed is as insatiable as their sense of moral and social moral purpose is non existent. they are the ultimate sore on the people of the philippines.
as regards university graduates, most are picking up a yellow pack degree so they have some chance of a job, any job. as regards the white tsunami of nurses, they have a bad name overseas. great bedside manners but not able to change a bandage. the fact that the great state of texas relies havily on pinoy teachers is also of interest
compare and contrast with thailand, a country most of its natives wish to stay in and which has a sizeable expat population and a structured tourist industry. thailand has progressed whereas the philippines has regressed. why? poverty is not the reason. pinoys have good names on building sites and as merchant seamen. they work. but in their own country, they get ripped off by the biggest shower of thieves ever assembled since christopher colombus and the ayala family set sail to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], plunder and pillage.
end of rant: the blades get put to the sword today. onward and upward.
I was wondering if anyone here would know of a ferry guide or a guide that lists all the boats and ferry crossings available in the Phillopines
[quote=martians]ge says the lack of money is the root of the problem. but the families who own the philippines are loaded and their family relatives who are bishops and generals do not lack for a buck either.
cl complains those he trained high tail it to dubai. maybe they prefer a living wage to a pittance. cl has also previously praised “venture capitalists” funding pawn shops as some kind of budding pioneers instead of the leeches that they are and that they were in dickens’ time in england. no country needs those people. they are an utter disgrace to humanity and should not be consorted with but avoided like the moral lepers they are.
ge goes on about the lack of infrastructure for it in mindanao. but what infrastructure is there for anything? comparing india to the philippines is like comparing oranges to mondays. if the attraction is dirt low wages, don’t expect growth. plus any projects would have a swarm of connected families around the honeypot; their greed is as insatiable as their sense of moral and social moral purpose is non existent. they are the ultimate sore on the people of the philippines.
as regards university graduates, most are picking up a yellow pack degree so they have some chance of a job, any job. as regards the white tsunami of nurses, they have a bad name overseas. great bedside manners but not able to change a bandage. the fact that the great state of texas relies havily on pinoy teachers is also of interest
compare and contrast with thailand, a country most of its natives wish to stay in and which has a sizeable expat population and a structured tourist industry. thailand has progressed whereas the philippines has regressed. why? poverty is not the reason. pinoys have good names on building sites and as merchant seamen. they work. but in their own country, they get ripped off by the biggest shower of thieves ever assembled since christopher colombus and the ayala family set sail to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], plunder and pillage.
end of rant: the blades get put to the sword today. onward and upward.[/quote]true,even if i pay above average wages by pi standards i cannot afford to pay them dubai wages.i do not fault them for that,in fact i wish them well but it is a hassle to train again sigh....regarding the philippine culture of corruption,i totally agree with you,i see how they steal steal and steal.the main business of the powers that be is still mining and peace and order.thats mine thats mine thats mine......... and give me a piece of your business and thats an order!!!!!!
This site has a good list of ferry services in the Philippines.
[url]http://www.philippines-travel-guide.com/ferry-list-philippines.html[/url]
They are fun a couple of hours. I don't recommend long distant, day or overnight trips, unless you are really into exotic adventures and exploration. They are not luxury liners and depends on weather, may be a little too bumpy.
I also recommend you take a dramamine an hour before you board.
:)
[QUOTE=Member #2001]I was wondering if anyone here would know of a ferry guide or a guide that lists all the boats and ferry crossings available in the Phillopines[/QUOTE]
Had to go to Cebu on business in August so I took a little time to check out an open air market. Met this little hot number who took me to her place and nearly fucked me to death. She was a little skinny for my taste but God she couldn’t get enough, she loved to fuck in all three holes. Didn’t even cost me the price of a hamburger, in fact she cooked me a delicious meal.
If you look closely at the picture in the frame on #3 you will see me.
[QUOTE=Holton Cowboy]Had to go to Cebu on business in August so I took a little time to check out an open air market. Met this little hot number who took me to her place and nearly fucked me to death. She was a little skinny for my taste but God she couldn’t get enough, she loved to fuck in all three holes. Didn’t even cost me the price of a hamburger, in fact she cooked me a delicious meal.[/QUOTE]
I've been talking to a girl from Baguio. Met her through CL. Wants me to come and meet her and her family. Never has asked for money. YET. Quite an age difference but seems very mature. Told me about another guy who is writing her.
Any comments?
I plan to have a holiday in the Philippines and I would like to stay about 3 or 4 weeks. Now I have read that citizen of the EU (I am German) get a Visa for 21 days. If I want to stay longer I need to prepare a Visa by the Philippines Embassy in Germany. Is this true or can I get such a longer Visa also at the Airport in Manila or somewhere else in Manila?
[QUOTE=DG69]I plan to have a holiday in the Philippines and I would like to stay about 3 or 4 weeks. Now I have read that citizen of the EU (I am German) get a Visa for 21 days. If I want to stay longer I need to prepare a Visa by the Philippines Embassy in Germany. Is this true or can I get such a longer Visa also at the Airport in Manila or somewhere else in Manila?[/QUOTE]Any Serious PI Travel Agent can get you an extension up to 59 Days easily from the Immigration people without too much hassle.
Any comments about what? You don't give us enough information.
Baguio is a nice place, go see her. It will probably be a great experience.
[QUOTE=Larry 56]I've been talking to a girl from Baguio. Met her through CL. Wants me to come and meet her and her family. Never has asked for money. YET. Quite an age difference but seems very mature. Told me about another guy who is writing her.
Any comments?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=X Man]Any comments about what? You don't give us enough information.
Baguio is a nice place, go see her. It will probably be a great experience.[/QUOTE]Nice response. What I was attempting to ask if it usual for her to ask me to meet her parents? That would seem like a good sign under normal circumstances.
What other information do you need to know?
[QUOTE=Cebu Local]Any Serious PI Travel Agent can get you an extension up to 59 Days easily from the Immigration people without too much hassle.[/QUOTE]
Thank you for the info! Do you mean I just have to go to a travel Agent, let say in Manila after my arrival and pay him some money and he will arrange an extension?
[QUOTE=DG69]Thank you for the info! Do you mean I just have to go to a travel Agent, let say in Manila after my arrival and pay him some money and he will arrange an extension?[/QUOTE]
Correct,But try to stick to the larger Reputable ones,Not the hole in the wall s.Somebody with a PHILTOA Philippine Tour Operators Association or PTAA Phililippine Travel Agents Association Sticker Displayed.These guys get expelled if they rip people off.So the have to behave
Well, I met a woman at 2pm, then met her parents at 3pm, was giving her a good root at 5pm, and then she tried to scam me after I left the city.
A good sign for what? Geesh.
Okay, I'll assume you are looking for a good girl to marry. Meeting her family is a great way to get the ball rolling. If you just want to get laid, it might be a bad sign. I've had some interesting experiences meeting family and friends, although some guys here wouldn't be bothered. For many "good" Filipinas you'll have to meet a family member or expect a chaperone. Unfortunately, a good family doesn't always guarantee a good girl.
Wait, what am I saying! Fortunately, a good family doesn't always guarantee a good girl.
Hope that helps. X
[QUOTE=Larry 56]Nice response. What I was attempting to ask if it usual for her to ask me to meet her parents? That would seem like a good sign under normal circumstances.
What other information do you need to know?[/QUOTE]
Larry, in the Philippines meeting her parents is an important step (for her) in establishing a permanent relationship. It is one way for her to test your seriousness to such end. I’ve done it on several occasions and never had family to interfere but they will frequently talk your ear off asking you very personal questions about yourself. So be prepared.
[QUOTE=Larry 56]Nice response. What I was attempting to ask if it usual for her to ask me to meet her parents? That would seem like a good sign under normal circumstances.
What other information do you need to know?[/QUOTE]
I don't know any specific places in MNL, but I did use a T/A located at the now torn down MNL Midtown Hotel.
In Cebu, the concierge at the Marriott took care of it, adding P500 to the total cost (I think the "quick" extension was P2,100. Marriott just took it to the T/A on 3rd Flr at Ayala and had them process it). You want to be careful, as you have to also provide your passport and I'm skeptical about trusting anybody with it.
In La Union, staff at Bali Hai Resort had it processed for me. Ditto for the P500 fee.
In Davao, no T/A knew what the H*ll I was talking about, but offered to accompany me, for a fee, to the office. I declined, dressed up (long pants, shoes, socks and a collar shirt) and had it done in a couple of hours. Dressing "appropriately" (business casual) is a must or they will turn you away. This gave me a total of 59 days (original 21 days included) to stay in the Phils.
There are Immigration offices in MNL, Cebu, Davao, San Fernando (La Union) and Laoag City in Ilocos Norte. There are probably others, these are just the ones I know of.
Good Luck.
see [url]http://www.gov.ph/faqs/visa.asp[/url] for a FAQ on visas.
Notes:
* you can find the extension forms on the website and apply yourself. For the 500 P service fee - why bother?
* if you get someone else to present the application, it must be an approved agent. Don't worry, there are plenty available
* the first extension will cost you 2100 P. This includes the 500P expresslane fee which means it is processed in one day. Add the service fee
* the first extension is for 38 days - which gives you 59 days total (including original 21 days). Your second extension is for another 59 days, although this extension costs around 4000 Pesos. Add the service fee
* if you are only going to overstay for a little while, you might consider just paying the visa fee at the airport. It will cost you approximately 2500P, depending on how much they try to squeeze out of you for a penalty. I was late 2 weeks once and it cost me around 2500P (less than paying an agency to file my extension -with the agency fee). My friend was late for a few days and it cost him 2250P. Why the difference, I don't know. They tried to charge my friend a 1000 P penalty, but he argued it and they subsequently dropped it.
Hope this helps
Tooch
when dealing with "authorized extension agents" one can usually find such
touts working around or near the immigration offices, without going into much details they are usually rip offs IMHO. Yes most will render the service they ask a fee for but many times it is simply providing forms that you can down load for free or obtain in person and fill out in five minutes at Immigration. You should al know these folks have very little influence or pull in "la migra" despite their implications of being able to expidite things for a little extra swag money. (excuse me there are no bribes in the Philippines...only gifts in appreciatin of expiditious service).
Most hotels will provide such servies but charge a premium, all they do is send and authorized agent around to sit and wait until a number is called.
My advice is to get to the offices early, have everything xeroxed and all your forms ready, make sure you got change and can cover the fees even be prepared for any untoward "rate hikes" you didn;t know about. Dress decently and NEVER, NEVER give the clerks a hard time or complain loudly.
I really dont like the idea of "authorized agents" having copies of my passport and personal information, never know who they might pass that info to and for what purpose. Course im paranoid as hell.
Spamhog
mates,
have been informed, the best time to travel to philippines is september. is this indeed so? i would obviously be interested in any wisened advice in this regard. i`m looking at spending some time in manila and bangkok, thailand - time constraints 10/14 days.
speed13
[quote=speed13]mates,
have been informed, the best time to travel to philippines is september. is this indeed so? i would obviously be interested in any wisened advice in this regard. i`m looking at spending some time in manila and bangkok, thailand - time constraints 10/14 days.
speed13[/quote]
tecnhically, september is the start of winter here, means the temp goes from 95 to a frigid 90. but sept, oct and november are notably cooler, such as it is. another factor is typhoon season is during this time, the season the filipino's call "habagat" meaning big waves/wind, great for surfing too. some services/travel can be affected as floods are common in some areas especially visayas.
now i know a lot of aussie's like to go to surigao area for surfing during this time and october there is a big event there.
there are a number of festivals and such during this time nov 1st is a big national holiday when they honor the dead, so things get a bit crowded regarding hotel space during oct/nov, the of course the world shuts down in mid december for xmas.
now none of this should seriously affect mongering which is not a seasonal event.
regarding thailand, they have a number of holidays also during oct/nov and december dec 7th being the kings birthday when all bangkok shuts down for three or four days.
good luck
spamhog
Holiday "activities" came up last year. My experience was that people ask for a bit more money since "it is Christmas." Christmas in Manila was great fun. A lot of people go out and about that day. Baywalk was absolutely packed. The taxi driver said something that has stuck with me. "Even if they have no money, they go out on Christmas."
New Year's Eve is another matter. Bars in Cebu closed up early and then World War III began. I watched the battle from the top of Holiday Plaza which seemed relatively safe.
I recommend having a date all lined up and confirmed sometime before New Year's eve. And if you don't get to the bars early. I don't know what happened the evening of Jan 1 because I was already on Alona Beach, Bohol by that time.
X
[QUOTE=Spam Hog]
There are a number of festivals and such during this time Nov 1st is a big national holiday when they honor the dead, so things get a bit crowded regarding hotel space during Oct/Nov, the of course the world shuts down in mid December for Xmas.
Now none of this should seriously affect mongering which is not a seasonal event.Spamhog[/QUOTE]
Guys,
I am planning my virgin trip to the PI in 07...to Manila, Cebu, and Angeles City within a 2 week period. My intention it to eventually retire in Cebu...what time of the year weatherwise would you suggest?
I'm still searching and researching the forums for info, but if you want to throw some ideas on where to stay temporary and possible future homestead spots, Im all ears!
Thanks,
DF
[QUOTE=Dafacer]Guys,
I am planning my virgin trip to the PI in 07...to Manila, Cebu, and Angeles City within a 2 week period. My intention it to eventually retire in Cebu...what time of the year weatherwise would you suggest?
I'm still searching and researching the forums for info, but if you want to throw some ideas on where to stay temporary and possible future homestead spots, Im all ears!
Thanks,
DF[/QUOTE]
Seasons are ass backwards in this hemispehre and they really are not like what you experience in the US or Europe. Heat index wise I cant tell the difference although my spouse and her filipina counterparts can, complaining of the "cold" right now, only about 85.
Thing you have to worry about here (and it is NOT a major worry) is Typhoon season. They come off the Pacific every so often and bash into the eastern side of Mindanao, bounce off the mountains and head north to smash into Leyte, samar then tear ass though the flater central Visayas. CEBU does not get much of the battering the costal area get. It translates into rain, heavy at times, some flooding in the streets where the sewer drains are stuffed up with garbage but really nothing to worry about. I wouldn't plan any sail boat trips during September. October but I've ridden the commerical ferru back and forth to Mindano a lot without any probelems other than some heavy rain.
The weather turns hotter in March and remains so until about June, which is when the kids go back to school.
Look into staying in the lahug area temporarily from which you can hit all the major shopping centers and most things we foreigners like to do. (Mongering sites and go go bars are close by). You can rent a place for under $300 a month but most landlords want a one year lease.
Also look into moving across the line to Mandau city or Lapu Lapu, personally I think its cheaper to buy property in those areas than Cebu city proper.
Regards
Spamhog
Thanks again Spamhog.
[QUOTE=X Man]Well, I met a woman at 2pm, then met her parents at 3pm, was giving her a good root at 5pm, and then she tried to scam me after I left the city.
A good sign for what? Geesh.
Okay, I'll assume you are looking for a good girl to marry. Meeting her family is a great way to get the ball rolling. If you just want to get laid, it might be a bad sign. I've had some interesting experiences meeting family and friends, although some guys here wouldn't be bothered. For many "good" Filipinas you'll have to meet a family member or expect a chaperone. Unfortunately, a good family doesn't always guarantee a good girl.
Wait, what am I saying! Fortunately, a good family doesn't always guarantee a good girl.
Hope that helps. X[/QUOTE]That does help. Thank you!
Larry!
[QUOTE=Holton Cowboy]Larry, in the Philippines meeting her parents is an important step (for her) in establishing a permanent relationship. It is one way for her to test your seriousness to such end. I’ve done it on several occasions and never had family to interfere but they will frequently talk your ear off asking you very personal questions about yourself. So be prepared.[/QUOTE]I've continued to have long conversations with her. She has never asked for money. She lives in Baguio. No, it's not just about sex. It sounds like it is worth a trip.
Thanks to all for the info.
Larry!
To all it may concern:
Here is a recent article from [url=http://newsinfo.inq7.net/breakingnews/metroregions/view_article.php?article_id=28067]INQ7[/url]
It's worth a trip? Larry, that's what I said in my first post.
I think you realized that before you ever sent your post. I'm still not sure what you are looking for.
If this is your first trip to the Philippines, I recommend you hit the town
(not Baguio) ...have some fun...play with some girls...and then go to Baguio.
Things will be in better perspective then...
Have fun.
X
[QUOTE=Larry 56]I've continued to have long conversations with her. She has never asked for money. She lives in Baguio. No, it's not just about sex. It sounds like it is worth a trip.
Thanks to all for the info.
Larry![/QUOTE]
This is a relative new site alot simliar to the other already on the internet. The site host alot of girls from the Philippines. The girls are very pretty and are so temping to chat with for an alleged $1 fee per minute. I purchased the service for 25 minutes at a cost of $25. I chatted with two girls for about 5 minutes each. When I got my creditcard bill, a total of $100 dollars was charged to my cardcard. I contacted the website and CCbill and neither would take responsiblity for this apparent frauduligent charge to my creditcard! Has anyone here had a experience similar or any suggestions other than avoidance?
Smartmone