Safe sex in The Philippines

Cautionary tale from a Filipino mongering site (yes, they do exist!). Didn't know which thread to put it on so created this one. With the amount of openly admitted barebacking that goes on here, maybe it is long overdue. The Thai board has had a ' safe sex' thread for a while.

I have not translated the Tagalog so skip them bits unless you are fluent. Also the Filipino mongering terms might be unfamiliar but are self evident. A PSP is a tart, the GM is the punter. The walk is the dirty deed and CD is covered sex. To go live is to bareback. Got that. I'll be asking questions later:).

[QUOTE]I'm a GM most of you know by name around here, but to protect my privacy and my family I'm using an alternick. By the title of my thread I guess you already know what I'm going to tell you. Nevertheless, I want to share my story hoping that other GMs may learn something from it.

I was a 33-year-old stockbroker and businessman married to an accountant working in a top 1, 000 corporation. I love my wife so much. She is smart, beautiful (a deadringer for Andrea Del Rosario) , and sexy. We have three beautiful kids aged 8 (a girl).5 (a boy) , and 2 (a girl). We were a happy family. We are not filthy rich but we can buy most of the things we want and we can go on vacation whenever and wherever we want. My wife and I earn quite a sum so we are able to send our kids to good schools. My in-laws love me and my wife is adored by her in-laws as well. Because we are career people, my wife and I planned to have kids at least 3 years apart. This year was the time we should be having our fourth child. That was the plan.

I discovered the world of PSP through an officemate, who I caught browsing. Org one day. But I was not new to escort girls. Even when I was still a bachelor, my friends and I would go to KTVs and take out GROs. I also got to pick up girls at some universities or malls. I'm not as handsome or as hunk as a Sam Milby or a Derek Ramsey, but I've got my own kind of charm that got me a lot of girls even when I was in college. There were times when I even had more than one girlfriend at a time. But I remained clean and disease-free up until I met my wife and we got married. We had the medical certificates from our respective employers to prove it. Our kids are healthy and bright. When I met my wife, I promised to myself I will stop fooling around because she is more than enough for me and I love her very much. But promises are made to be broken, so to speak.

About two years ago, as I was lying in bed due to flu, bored with nothing to do, I turned on the TV set and went channel surfing. I chanced upon a channel called chat TV and saw this ad: "Pretty college girl here in need of cash". I didn't know what got into me but I got her cellphone number displayed on the screen and texted her right away. To make the long story short, we agreed to meet the following day. The moment I saw her, I instantly got turned on because she was cute, chinita, boobsy, and still wearing her uniform. And so we proceeded to a motel, did our thing, and gave her the money she needed. I used CD that time. I told her to text me if she needed money again, but instructed her what to say (some sort of a secret code) para hindi mahalata ni misis. Naulit nang naulit ang pagkikita namin, in fact, we would meet once a week for 3 months. During our trysts, hindi na ako gumagamit ng CD dahil komportable na kami sa isa't isa at alam kong malinis siya due to the simple fact that she is a nursing student. One day nagpaalam siya. She had to go to her province because her mom died so we parted ways. I never heard from her since. But I missed the sex part.

Even though my wife and I had regular sex, something in me wanted more. So I started going out with my friends to have fun at KTVs, after which we will take out GROs of our choice. I would always wear CDs during the first encounter but when I felt like it's safe to do it without, I will do it live during the next encounters. Not long after, I discovered. Org, started looking at the girls there, and found one I liked. As always, I wore CD during our encounter but when I met her the second time, hindi na at payag naman siya. Then I picked another PSP, and another, and another. I also discovered. Org so my choices broadened, so to speak. I picked one from there, and another, and another. And everytime, I would only wear CD during the first encounter. Lagi kasi ako nag-uulit ng PSP except when I don't like her face or her attitude. At lagi naman sila pumapayag na walang CD as long as may dagdag bayad. Yung iba nga, sila na ang nag-vovolunteer na hindi na ako mag-CD. Malinis at mabango naman daw ako, they would say. Naging addict na yata ako sa PSP so I would always hire once or twice a week. I made sure I was careful with my excapades so my wife won't find out. And she wasn't able to notice anything. May sarili rin akong ATM so money was not an issue. By my count, I was able to walk 60 times in a span of approximately 15 months.

I decided to undergo electrocauterization a week after I found out about my disease. After a month, however, the warts returned and this time mas madami pa. I went to a male dermatologist this time and underwent another electrocauterization. Nagpa-injection na rin ako ng HPV vaccine para hindi na bumalik ang warts (as the doctor told me). By the way, regular namang nagpapatingin sa ob-gyne ang wife ko so hindi siya nahawa sa akin ng warts, thank God. At saka gumagamit ako ng CD ever since she gave birth to our third child dahil nga family planning kami. But since she left the house with our kids, I started to feel depressed. Wala na akong ganang pumasok sa office at wala na rin akong ganang kumain. But the worse is yet to come. Upon my doctor's advice, I underwent an HIV test and. You guess it right. I'm positive. Nagpaalam ako sa opisina namin na magbabakasyon muna ako ng isang buwan. Right now andito lang ako sa bahay, living in an empty house with an empty feeling. I cry hard every night, hindi ko masabi sa wife ko o sa pamilya ko. Ang alam nilang reason kung bakit ako hiniwalayan ng asawa ko ay dahil may iba akong babae. Hindi na rin ako dumadalaw sa mga anak ko dahil nandidiri ako sa sarili ko. I don't know what to do. I don't want to die a lonely man pero ito siguro ang kapalaran ko na ako rin ang gumawa. Sana merong institution for HIV / AIDS patients para don't na lang ako titira.

PS: By the way, some of the PSPs I had sex with are still in the business. Nakikita ko pa rin ang threads nila dito at sa isang site. If you can't drop the PSP habit, use protection ALL the time. Just PM me if you want to know kung sino-sinong PSP ang naka-encounter ko. Of course I'm sure they will deny na nagpapa-live sila. Bahala na kayo kung maniwala kayo. Pero ayokong mangyari sa inyo ang nangyari sa akin. Laging nasa huli ang pagsisisi.

Thanks for the space. God bless.[/QUOTE]Stay safe.

I have first hand experiance of a bar girl in Cebu who did bare back sex and she had aids. Her bf was not a local and knew he had aids and gave it to her. She was still working until she found out after a long fever.

I know of bar girls who have other STD as my gf is ex bar girl I know alot more than most that the girls do not care that they get a STD and pass it on. I still pick up girls from the bars from time to time but always use a condom I will never DATY a bar girl. Rember I live in Cebu I still now alot of the girls still working in the bars. I see guys posting in these forums talking aboout unprotected sex and I can not be bothered to pull them up.

[QUOTE=Frenzy3;1207329]I see guys posting in these forums talking aboout unprotected sex and I can not be bothered to pull them up.[/QUOTE]I agree Frenzy.

It is a waste of time saying anything. It just attracts derision and insults. I just look after myself now.

My reading of the WHO reports show that Philippines has low incidence of AIDS. References below. This is in contrast to what is expected. The most at risk are male-to-male sex, injecting drug users and then sex workers.

For the original post content, he must have been unlucky as AIDs is less likely to be spread through heterosexual activity.

Anyway, I guess if people go bareback in enough working girls then they will be getting exposed to a lot of nasty bugs.

Moral, always wear a raincoat.

References:

[url]http://apps.who.int/globalatlas/predefinedReports/EFS2008/full/EFS2008_PH.pdf[/url]

[url]http://www.who.int/countries/phl/en/[/url]

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV/AIDS_in_the_Philippines[/url]

Aussie Jo

[QUOTE=Red Kilt;1207331]It is a waste of time saying anything. It just attracts derision and insults. I just look after myself now.[/QUOTE]Agreed, you cannot legislate against the stupidity of individual human beings. Unfortunately some people will take extra risks in order to get that extra kick despite full cognizance of the dangers posed by ordinary STDs and worse. And if this only had relevance and concern for them alone it would be of little consequence to the rest of the more responsible mongering community. But not everyone is as responsible as the quoted Filipino in warning his fellow 'walkers'. I am sure that there are many out there (perhaps reading this now) who are fully aware of their positive status of infection with HPV, herpes or the big incurable nasty and couldn't give a shit who they infect and in fact are encouraged to bareback because of their status. Why should they care when they will be out of the country and far away before the girl exhibits symptoms (if she does). And the dirtier the pool, the more likely it is that some poor unsuspecting dupe will pick up something nasty and incurable to take home. He maybe read on ISG about other mongers boasting about bareback adventures and gets the idea that it is somehow safe.

So, despite making somber and uncomfortable reading for some, these cautionary stories are worthwhile if they encourage just one punter to take adequate protection when perhaps he was considering the riskier option.

We all know that mongering is a high risk sport but who would really want to go sky diving without a parachute?

Forgive me, I am the last to be in a position to 'preach' to other mongers. Just thought the post was interesting and very relevant.

[QUOTE=Aussie Jo; 1207489]My reading of the WHO reports show that Philippines has low incidence of AIDS. References below. This is in contrast to what is expected. The most at risk are male-to-male sex, injecting drug users and then sex workers.

References:

[url]http://apps.who.int/globalatlas/predefinedReports/EFS2008/full/EFS2008_PH.pdf[/url]

[url]http://www.who.int/countries/phl/en/[/url]

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV/AIDS_in_the_Philippines[/url]

Aussie Jo[/QUOTE]Lies, damned lies and statistics.

When was the last time there was a comprehensive screening programme in The Philippines?

The average Jose on the street has probably never been tested for anything. The only time they need a mandatory test is when they require one as an entry requirement to gain employment in certain countries.

Admittedly, the projected infection rates are considered to be quite small in The Philippines. But that is no need to be blase about the risks as our stockbroker found out to his cost.

No expert on the PIs. Only was in Cebu once. But one girl showed me her hygyene test that she claimed to do monthly (she was from silver doolar).

And she had to have her test which her when she was working at the bar.

What are they testing there, or are there too many loopholes in the system? Is this worht anything?

Anyway, I would never go BB, but even with a condom there is risks and I like to keep them as low as possible.

My understand is the "hygene" is a gram stain test which will catch gono and some other bacterial STDs but not much else.

It is not a blood test as pointed out it is a basic test done weekly or monthly. It will not show all STD and girls will get the STD between test and still be doing sex. I point out living here with a ex bar girl for 5 years I have had girls from the bars tell me first hand that they have a STD and most live peso to peso and need to borrow money to pay the doctor and for the medicine. The girls who can not borrow some will do freelance work. The other problem is they stop taking the drugs to keep the pills for next time. Also I should point out most girls get STD from thier bf which they will not tell you that they have a boyfriend, who would have sexed her before she went to work, so asking questions does not help you.

[url]http://www.healthzone.ca/health/newsfeatures/article/1023285--gonorrhea-superbug-resistant-to-all-antibiotics[/url]

The above article is not just related to Japan in my experience, but Gonorrhea in general across Asia is putting up a mighty struggle to antibiotics. I speak of personal experience. My honeybabes gifted me Gonorrhea in the Philippines, it was hell trying to rid myself of her gift. Tried the various antibiotics, no success, ten days later I was still seeping custard. Back in the UK, shot myself off to the local Sexual Health Clinic. A jab of Ceftriaxone 1g did the trick in a matter of hours. I was mightily relieved, and have since been given the all clear after various tests.

I personally would advise you Gentlemen to have Hepatitus innoculations, mine was a series of three jabs.

I informed honeybabes of the little gift, she broke all comunication and is currently freelancing in Manila, so take care Gentlemen. I presume she has not been treated. Barebacking is costly, however, when inebriated I seem to abandon all saftey concerns, did so this last trip, I shan't be doing so in future.

[QUOTE=Share Xprience; 1211924]I had sex with a person from craiglist, the second time I didn't use condom and I had done little anal too.

This was in early October. I started having irritation in my penis.

I was diagnozed with Urinary Tract Infection, I was given a course of antibiotics for 7 days. Still the irritation was there. Now I am again on a course.

I have spent arround 10, 000 on medication. (a good lesson to use condom always,

Has anyone else experienced this.

I m really scared if it will be treated soon. No sex till then. Wt about masturbation?[/QUOTE]Yes you can get UTI from doing anal sex. Sounds like you need a better doctor. And 10k (peso I hope) how most docs charge 300 plus 300 for test and 500-1000 for meds. 2k at most.

Ciprofloxacin, used for the treatment of Gonorrhea, Urinary Tract infections and various std's. This drug was no match for the strain of Gonorrhea gifted to me, perhaps this varies for individuals. [b]Share xperience[/b], judging from my own experience, I urge you. Seek professional help. As I mentioned in the Manila thread, you require a visit to a Sexual Health Clinic who are versed in just such cases. Do not self medicate.

I visted one hospital and my own GP before taking myself off the the local Sexual Health Clinic, solveing my Gonorrhea in hours with a jab, Ceftriaxone 1g. 500mg dose. Mr Gonorrhea cleared in a matter of hours. I was wanking around with Doctors.

What I did recently was purchase Azithromycin 250mg (Azycin, Thailand) 315 Baht. I popped two of these a third of the way through my trip. Cleans out the system, getting rid of those little travel bugs. Sound practice? I think so.

[QUOTE=Osuul; 1207781]No expert on the PIs. Only was in Cebu once. But one girl showed me her hygyene test that she claimed to do monthly (she was from silver doolar).

And she had to have her test which her when she was working at the bar.

What are they testing there, or are there too many loopholes in the system? Is this worht anything?

Anyway, I would never go BB, but even with a condom there is risks and I like to keep them as low as possible.[/QUOTE]Only way to know if the girl or you are clear is my doing tests. Hygiene test I believe is just look and smell and check for redness.

Surprising as is some girls are resistent to STD while others are prone to yeast infections all the time even if they eat something wrong.

Fee for the hygiene test often goes to the girl most of the time and I am sure for these working girls there is no way to afford the battery of tests. I think they should do a battery of tests every 3-6 months to all these working girls. Same should be done for us mongers too.

But the problem lies atleast here is USA is if the doctor finds soimething it is reported and all sorts of questions like who is your sexual partner etc comes into play. Besides it will become part of your medical record.

I used to work at a hospital lab during my student years. I know this is the procedure to follow if amnybody is positive to STD. I am sure very few will come out with the real story.

However I believe it is cheaper and anonymous to get tested and treated in places like Phi and Thailand. I had no problems so far with regular girfriends or occassuional bareback with working girls.

[QUOTE=Noddy;1212219]What I did recently was purchase Azithromycin 250mg (Azycin, Thailand) 315 Baht. I popped two of these a third of the way through my trip. Cleans out the system, getting rid of those little travel bugs. Sound practice? I think so.[/QUOTE]Great advice. I have been doing the same for the past few years but I tend to take it after the trip is over. 1 pil to kill it all.

[QUOTE=Aussie Jo;1207489]My reading of the WHO reports show that Philippines has low incidence of AIDS. References below. This is in contrast to what is expected. The most at risk are male-to-male sex, injecting drug users and then sex workers.[/QUOTE]Yes, PI has a low incidence of hiv / aids. One of the reasons could be that the majority of men are circumsized. Anyhow, with the increase of foreigners arriving every year to fuck, Pi will probably see a rise in hiv infection rates.

[QUOTE=Noddy;1212219]What I did recently was purchase Azithromycin 250mg (Azycin, Thailand) 315 Baht. I popped two of these a third of the way through my trip. Cleans out the system, getting rid of those little travel bugs. Sound practice? I think so.[/QUOTE]Self medication is almost always a bad idea. Untargeted and indiscriminate use of antibiotics only causes drug resistance.

[QUOTE=Mc Don;1212250]Great advice. I have been doing the same for the past few years but I tend to take it after the trip is over. 1 pil to kill it all.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately you are very misinformed about this or if you are informed then you do not care about putting the rest of us at risk. Taking any antibiotics without the examination and diagnosis of a DR. Is what a major cause of the many drug resistant forms of bacteria and has put the health care industry in a threatened situation. If the antibiotic does not kill all of the bacteria it was aimed at them the "survivor" bacteria can mutate into drug resistant form and that is not a good thing!

Surely taking taking half a dozen antibiotics a year is not going to cause drug resistance. Come on Gentlemen, it's not as if you are taking them, daily, weekly or for that matter even monthly.

Na (t) I've Humper, you need to check your facts. You should for example consider the amount of consumed antibiotics by native humpers, as well as the rest of the population, in for example the Philippines. In my country we have a saying about mosquitoes and camels, and even if I can't be bothered to try to translate it I think you understand what I mean here. Noddy's Azithromycin has zero effect in the big picture of a country like the Philippines.

Before anyones begins to argue I urge you to consider for example this resource on the topic: [url]www.psmid.org.ph/vol26/vol26num2topic6.pdf[/url]

B.

My 2 cents or 2 pesos. I also posted in another thread where this topic started.

My cure all for the last 4 years has always worked for me except 1 time and that is because I had a prostate infection. I have and many of my friends and monger friends has used the following:

Zithromax or Zithromiaycin. Take 1g or 2 500mg at night. You can follow the same 24 hous later if you want to be double sure. If this does not cure you or start to help in 48 hours or less then you better see a doctor. Its called a Z-Pack and you can Google search it.

Oh I am not a Doctor but I did sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night. LOL That is a popular commercial in the USA in case you did not know.

@Amjeck.

How stupid can you get. Its rumors only that being circumsized is of any help avoiding HIV. Talking about foreigners compared to natives. Same same. STUPID. You must be a native pinoy to give such statements.

@the other contributers saying selfmedication is the right way: TOTALLY WRONG. See a medic. All other is black magic, and only a few believe in it.

[QUOTE=Marconista;1213169]@the other contributers saying selfmedication is the right way: TOTALLY WRONG. See a medic. All other is black magic, and only a few believe in it.[/QUOTE]Thank you, Marconista for your initiated advice.

I am experiencing challenges with some Fourier transforms. Maybe you have some well founded insight on this topic as well?

Over and out.

B.

Of real concern, report in the BBC. Is it a matter of time before Gonorrhoea turns untreatable? Found this in the Safe Sex thread.

[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-15238613[/url]

[QUOTE=Marconista; 1213169]@Amjeck.

How stupid can you get. Its rumors only that being circumsized is of any help avoiding HIV.[/QUOTE]Before making any bold statements you should do your homework. Being circumcized does make the chance on transmission of HIV lower. Search on the internet, there are enough reliable medical articles about that.

i met a dia contact mid-february. remember, i have been mongering for almost 15 years, and have been around. this girl was sweet, is 21, and was very very nice. we did the deed or many deeds, and after the first few times, and with a little bit of alcohol in my bloodstream; i just let go of my guard, and stopped wearing my condom (s). what a perfect body and ass. i still miss it!

anyway, along with the nice and wonderful time, she gifted me the big g. i knew i caught something by the time my flight landed in honolulu for my stop-over to lax.

i found a std specialist in la, and yes, this is all he treats, only stds. this doctor has a special entrance at the back of his clinic for vips. unfortunately, expensive. i did not want to use my insurance.

he did a full spectrum lab tests of my [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url], blood and took custard samples. this is the first time i caught something my entire life. really frightening. he diagnosed it as gonorrhea, and said he will fix my problem. but he needed to know where i had been. told him i was in phillipines. he responded, 'for phillipines. hmmm. i have to get something strong. '

he gave me a very powerful shot of pennicillin. he made me swallow 1000mg of azithromycin, and he put me on a 1 week regiment of ciprofloxalin. it cleared up in less than 24 hours. but he did talk about antibiotic resistant strains of gonorrhea in phillipines. so, be warned!

be warned that sometimes, those sweet little things we find from online dating sites, are a bit stained! i have had many encounters, close to a hundred, from online dating sites in phillipines, and this is the first time.

[QUOTE=Cool Traveler;1267620]Anyway, along with the nice and wonderful time, she gifted me the big G. I knew I caught something by the time my flight landed in Honolulu for my stop-over to LAX.[/QUOTE]If you go out to the playground, you are going to get nicked up from time to time. Next time you may want to consider [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord112][CodeWord112][/url] shortly after the deed which has proven to lower you chances of getting the clap.

More and more guys are getting STD on their visits here, due to the lack of money and education I am sure the STD are going to get worst

[QUOTE=Cool Traveler; 1267620]He responded, 'for Phillipines. Hmmm. I have to get something strong. '

He gave me a very powerful shot of Pennicillin.[/QUOTE]Your "specialist" is a quack. He should have done a bacteria culture test to see what resistances your strain has, before prescribing random toxic crap. Penicillin hasnt been used for decades to treat Gonorrhea, its ineffective now, thanks to overprescription by quacks who handed it out to everyone in large doses.

Ceftriaxone and azythromicyn are still effective, next time save money, bring your [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] to a lab, ask for bacteria resistance culture, it takes 3 days and costs 300 pesos. The result will tell you what antibiotic is working, you can buy it over the counter here. If you do it in the west, you need prescription for both.

Or much better, condom always! Dont get infected with that crud in the first place.

[quote=screaming beaver;1267996]next time you may want to consider [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord112][CodeWord112][/url] shortly after the deed which has proven to lower you chances of getting the clap.[/quote]simple but sensible advice. i normaly [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord111][CodeWord111][/url] and wash, however, prior to my brush with the dreaded gonorhea i actually rolled over and went to sleep post sex without even cleaning up. i think this is where the little crettins went to work on me. really silly.

[quote=barba; 1212397]before anyones begins to argue i urge you to consider for example this resource on the topic:

[url]www.psmid.org.ph/vol26/vol26num2topic6.pdf[/url]

b.[/quote]interesting piece. while i am grateful that i can buy most medication without prescription over the counter in phils, saving time and money, i am also well aware this leads to medication abuse on a large scale, leading to multiple drug resistances being developed and spread around the world.

however, before you conclude that its best to go to the clinic everytime your [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] burns, keep in mind the absolute worst infections and the most resistant pathogens are domiciled in hospitals and are spread through poor use of hospital equipment.

[QUOTE=Cool Traveler; 1267620]He gave me a very powerful shot of Pennicillin. He made me swallow 1000mg of Azithromycin, and he put me on a 1 week regiment of Ciprofloxalin. It cleared up in less than 24 hours. But he did talk about antibiotic resistant strains of Gonorrhea in Phillipines. So, be warned!

Be warned that sometimes, those sweet little things we find from online dating sites, are a bit stained! I have had many encounters, close to a hundred, from online dating sites in Phillipines, and this is the first time.[/QUOTE]It's common knowledge that DIA girls work with more sausages than a butcher shop and have no hygiene checks. This is your first time rooting a cyber tart bareback or your first time catching a dose of the clap in your custard launcher?

[QUOTE=Amjeck;1212269]Yes, PI has a low incidence of hiv / aids.[/QUOTE]Can you, sir, then tell me how low it is? I'm inclined to believe that at least part of PI's "success story" (so far) is being achieved by reluctancy in testing. For example, social hygiene checks do not usually include a HIV test. This is at best offered at irregular intervals and they are voluntary. That said, some girls with half a brain do pay out of their own pocket for a test, sometimes. Most pinoys do NOT know their status!

Another reason for PI:s relatively low rate is probably that IV drug use is less frequent.

[QUOTE=Amjeck;1212269]Anyhow, with the increase of foreigners arriving every year to fuck, Pi will probably see a rise in hiv infection rates.[/QUOTE]It sounds like you're buying in to the "dirty poreigner" myth. While it's likely a contributing factor, main vector for HIV transmission to Philippines has been OFWs. Again, if memory serves some recent study also pointed out call centers as a hotbed for HIV! So better beware of those frequent callers, and stick to fresh DIA virgins. LOL.

Personally, I cover up as much as possible in uncharted Pinay wetlands.

[QUOTE=Pute Nut; 1268333]. SNIP. While it's likely a contributing factor, main vector for HIV transmission to Philippines has been OFWs. .

Personally, I cover up as much as possible in uncharted Pinay wetlands.[/QUOTE]Pute's right.

There are literally thousands of pinoy OFW seamen who are largely uneducated about the perils of mongering in some of their ports of call (think Africa and PNG for starters). Remember also that the girls who "service" the ships are ALWAYS the lowest of the bottom feeders on the food chain.

These guys bring back their microscopic pasalubong and spread it around into the pool.

Maybe some of these DIA lonely women actually have hubbies who are riding the high seas for 45 weeks of the year. I know at least one DIA woman who lists herself as "separated" and who plays a lot because hubby is away most of the year so for her, "separated" is a valid descriptor.

Covering up is a sensible thing to do.

[quote=cool traveler; 1267620]i met a dia contact mid-february. remember, i have been mongering for almost 15 years, and have been around. this girl was sweet, is 21, and was very very nice. we did the deed or many deeds, and after the first few times, and with a little bit of alcohol in my bloodstream; i just let go of my guard, and stopped wearing my condom (s). what a perfect body and ass. i still miss it!

anyway, along with the nice and wonderful time, she gifted me the big g. i knew i caught something by the time my flight landed in honolulu for my stop-over to lax.

i found a std specialist in la, and yes, this is all he treats, only stds. this doctor has a special entrance at the back of his clinic for vips. unfortunately, expensive. i did not want to use my insurance.

he did a full spectrum lab tests of my [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url], blood and took custard samples. this is the first time i caught something my entire life. really frightening. he diagnosed it as gonorrhea, and said he will fix my problem. but he needed to know where i had been. told him i was in phillipines. he responded, 'for phillipines. hmmm. i have to get something strong. '

he gave me a very powerful shot of pennicillin. he made me swallow 1000mg of azithromycin, and he put me on a 1 week regiment of ciprofloxalin. it cleared up in less than 24 hours. but he did talk about antibiotic resistant strains of gonorrhea in phillipines. so, be warned!

be warned that sometimes, those sweet little things we find from online dating sites, are a bit stained! i have had many encounters, close to a hundred, from online dating sites in phillipines, and this is the first time.[/quote]thanks for the post, cool traveler. i am sorry to hear about your situation. i can relate to those "moments of weakness". the next time i have a "moment of weakness", i'll think of your post.

When doing multiple different girls, to protect everyone, perhaps it is better to get tested rapidly in between each girl. Does anyone have some ideas on where to go in Cebu City and Manila where one can quickly get

Chlamydia / gonorrhea testing?

[QUOTE=Sopwith; 1285472]When doing multiple different girls, to protect everyone, perhaps it is better to get tested rapidly in between each girl. Does anyone have some ideas on where to go in Cebu City and Manila where one can quickly get

Chlamydia / gonorrhea testing?[/QUOTE]Just not practical nor realistic, Sopwith. How much thought did you apply to this idea of yours mate, not that I'm being sarcastic? Having had the dreaded Gonorrhea, one is supposed to take precautions by wearing the horrendous raincoat or else abstain from the sex act. Having between two to three sessions a day, getting checked in between would be ludicrous, time consuming, costly and forget finding a test facility, wait your turn, wait for results. When do I eat, sleep and take a dump?

Besides, the Beer is going to be warm.

[QUOTE=Sopwith; 1285472]When doing multiple different girls, to protect everyone, perhaps it is better to get tested rapidly in between each girl. Does anyone have some ideas on where to go in Cebu City and Manila where one can quickly get

Chlamydia / gonorrhea testing?[/QUOTE]It is practically impossible to test yourself in between girls. Most STD do not show up right away. There is a latent period and onset of symptoms depends on body resistence.

Best thing to do is get the girl and yourself tested and keep the girl for a long time.

I am sure there are some places where you can get tested quickly but reliability maybe in question. In Philippines everybody tries to make money without quality service.

Realistically you are better off going to the doctor and get tested for everything once you get back. If there is something will be treated. Worrying about girls is of no use. You really do not know how many people.

She has sex with. She will never tell the truth. Remember these are young girls with hormones raging. They will not sit idle to have sex once a year or whenever you meet them.

[QUOTE=Sopwith; 1285472]When doing multiple different girls, to protect everyone, perhaps it is better to get tested rapidly in between each girl. Does anyone have some ideas on where to go in Cebu City and Manila where one can quickly get

Chlamydia / gonorrhea testing?[/QUOTE]I agree with the other posters but I knew someone who had the girls he saw tested (took 2 days max) before he did the dirty etc. He used Makati General (obviously Makati) and Chong Hua (spelling?) or Cebu Doctors (both in Cebu). Said these were reliable and quick but if you are seeing multiple girls a day this is likely imparactical and costly. And as Noddy said the beer gets warm.

Again the person above knew who he was meeting in advance and they stayed with a few days at a time

i test each new girl beforehand, using this [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] dipstick test:

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you can purchase online there, or a similar kit through amazon. com. but no one will ship to the philippines.

the test will identify the presence of leucocytes and other things (including blood, indicating menstruation). this indicates the presence of bacterial infection-except chlamydia, which does not produce leucocytes. for that, using the smell-after-fingering test. but it could also be a simple, non-infectious non-gonococcal uti. a lab uses the same test, but also examines through a microscope. maybe you can see something cloudy or otherwise amiss by examining the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] through a clear glass. i have been saved from gonorrhea this way several times.

please excuse the incorrect spelling of medical terms.

[quote=sopwith;1285472]when doing multiple different girls, to protect everyone, perhaps it is better to get tested rapidly in between each girl. does anyone have some ideas on where to go in cebu city and manila where one can quickly get chlamydia / gonorrhea testing?[/quote]

[quote=cbea20;1285826]i test each new girl beforehand, using this [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] dipstick test.[/quote]i personally never leave the house without a microscope and a fully equipped portable std testing laboratory. the first thing i do when i hit the room with a new chick, is to romantically suggest that she gives me a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] sample (i will helpfully position myself under her with my test tube at the ready). its a lovely way to break the ice and us punters can never be safe enough.

the only problem is that the girl invariably think that i'm taking the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url]!

[quote=cbea20; 1285826]i test each new girl beforehand, using this [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] dipstick test:

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you can purchase online there, or a similar kit through amazon. com. but no one will ship to the philippines.

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for the vagina, some important notes: bacterial vaginosis (bv) , the pussy smells fishy when you put a finger up and sniff. candida. the pussy will have white "chunky" stuff in it (like cottage cheese) , often all over it. in both conditions, the girls will be sore when having sex with you. there is no quick test for chlamydia (and no smell) , hiv (other than the saliva test) , hepatitis b or c (get yourself vaccinate against hep b, there is no vaccine for hep c) , hep a (esp if you lick the arsehole, get yourself vaccinated against hep a. 100% effective) gonorrhea (the majority of women don't have symptoms like men do, there is no smell and no white blood cells in the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url]) , or syphillis.

sorry, but wanted to bring some rationality to this discussion (but i did love another poster's comment about bringing a test tube to "romantically" collect [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url], hehehehe)

gg

[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1286105]The only problem is that the girl invariably think that I'm taking the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url]![/QUOTE]I admire your thoroughness, CS. One can never be too careful. And of course, much better to be pissed on than pissed off.

[quote=cool traveler; 1267620]i met a dia contact mid-february. remember, i have been mongering for almost 15 years, and have been around. this girl was sweet, is 21, and was very very nice. we did the deed or many deeds, and after the first few times, and with a little bit of alcohol in my bloodstream; i just let go of my guard, and stopped wearing my condom (s). what a perfect body and ass. i still miss it!

anyway, along with the nice and wonderful time, she gifted me the big g. i knew i caught something by the time my flight landed in honolulu for my stop-over to lax.

i found a std specialist in la, and yes, this is all he treats, only stds. this doctor has a special entrance at the back of his clinic for vips. unfortunately, expensive. i did not want to use my insurance.

he did a full spectrum lab tests of my [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url], blood and took custard samples. this is the first time i caught something my entire life. really frightening. he diagnosed it as gonorrhea, and said he will fix my problem. but he needed to know where i had been. told him i was in phillipines. he responded, 'for phillipines. hmmm. i have to get something strong. '

he gave me a very powerful shot of pennicillin. he made me swallow 1000mg of azithromycin, and he put me on a 1 week regiment of ciprofloxalin. it cleared up in less than 24 hours. but he did talk about antibiotic resistant strains of gonorrhea in phillipines. so, be warned!

be warned that sometimes, those sweet little things we find from online dating sites, are a bit stained! i have had many encounters, close to a hundred, from online dating sites in phillipines, and this is the first time.[/quote]got a picture of the dia? would like to avoid it. your doctor should have given you a pack of condoms.

[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1286105]The only problem is that the girl invariably think that I'm taking the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url]![/QUOTE]I believe it's other ISG regulars who think you're taking a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url].

I read.

Candida. The pussy will have white "chunky" stuff in it (like cottage cheese) , often all over it.

Someone I had sex with had this.

I never ever contracted any form STD in my life or been treated for anything related to STD. Is there any way for this woman to contract this even if I never had STD?

I have licked the downstairs of this woman and of course had protected sex with others but never contracted.

[QUOTE=Skip Kost;1286526]I believe it's other ISG regulars who think you're taking a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url].[/QUOTE]It's actually "taking THE [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url]" Skip.

A well-known Aussie saying. Look up one of the slang sites, such as [url]http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=taking[/url]%20the%20piss.

CS was trying to be extremely clever and succeeded beyond all expectations. He had me ROFLMFAO.

[QUOTE=Jp Slicky; 1286534]I read.

Candida. The pussy will have white "chunky" stuff in it (like cottage cheese) , often all over it.

Someone I had sex with had this.

I never ever contracted any form STD in my life or been treated for anything related to STD. Is there any way for this woman to contract this even if I never had STD?

I have licked the downstairs of this woman and of course had protected sex with others but never contracted.[/QUOTE]Women can get candida for many reasons. Taking antibiotics, douching, wearing polyester panties (should wear cotton) , taking oral contraceptives, usuing contraceptive creams and gels. Generally this isn't passed onto a man. But if a man gets it, it is on the outside of the penis only. YOu go out and get yourself some clotrmazole or terbinafine cream (both sold as athletes foot cream, yes you can use it on your dick) and use it twice a day for a week, and get your groin too cause its there. Technically it is an STD and easy to get rid of if you identify you have it. For women, they can use vaginal cream (sold specifically for the pussy) or take an oral pill. Fluconazole. 200 mg, one dose ONLY! (yes, one does does it)

The "chunky stuff" that looks like cottage cheese is inside the vagina. You may see it more easily on women that have labia that aren't so "fat" (so you can see the pussy opening better) or you may see it on your dick when you pull it out. NOTE: Cum does not form chunky stuff when you put it in the girls. Even if you are a huge cummer (no names here, hehe but I love to hear you guys brag about how much you cum inside a girl, WOW).

[QUOTE=Sammon; 1285593]It is practically impossible to test yourself in between girls. Most STD do not show up right away. There is a latent period and onset of symptoms depends on body resistence.

Best thing to do is get the girl and yourself tested and keep the girl for a long time.

I am sure there are some places where you can get tested quickly but reliability maybe in question. In Philippines everybody tries to make money without quality service.

Realistically you are better off going to the doctor and get tested for everything once you get back. If there is something will be treated. Worrying about girls is of no use. You really do not know how many people.

She has sex with. She will never tell the truth. Remember these are young girls with hormones raging. They will not sit idle to have sex once a year or whenever you meet them.[/QUOTE]Department of Health / Bureau of Health Facilities accredites HIV testing facilities in the Philippines. They used to publish a s list at this link: [url]http://www.doh.gov.ph/hiv.[/url] Ask the testing lab for their license nubmer. This link shows the lastest HIV / STD statistics in the Philippines: [url]http://www.doh.gov.ph/disease-surveillance.[/url]

I make my gf in Cebu get tested at Prime Care Cebu (SM Mall, second floor) , and it costs about 5000 pesos. My gf in Manila gets tested at St Luke and it costs about 10,000 pesos.

[quote=cunning stunt;1286105]i personally never leave the house without a microscope and a fully equipped portable std testing laboratory. the first thing i do when i hit the room with a new chick, is to romantically suggest that she gives me a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] sample (i will helpfully position myself under her with my test tube at the ready). its a lovely way to break the ice and us punters can never be safe enough.the only problem is that the girl invariably think that i'm taking the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url]![/quote]you got to admit that you are a quite smart and creative rep002 pervert! lol

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Drug-Resistant Gonorrhea: WHO Agrees It's An Emergency.

[url]http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/06/resistant-gonorrhea-who/[/url]

If interested.

Slim

Does the following accurately describe the state of affairs in PI these days?

[QUOTE=]Despite the efforts of health authorities and the NGOs, very few Filipina prostitutes use condoms, as they have been brainwashed by the Catholic church into believing it's a mortal sin.

All women working in girly bars in the Philippines must be licensed. They are compelled to be tested weekly for STDs and are HIV tested annually. If they don't, they lose their licence.

When I lived in Angeles City, they averaged 8, 000 licenced bargirls. In the 6 years I lived there, the highest HIV positive result was 4. For 2 years there was a zero result. The results weren't fake-I knew the people doing the testing and they were worried when the number hit 4. The latest results turned up 12 out of 15, 000 and they're talking about an epidemic.

So what is missing? Needles, anal and lies. Heroin is virtually non-existent in the Philippines. The drug of choice is Shabu (Ice) and they smoke, not inject. They don't hit up with vitamens or treat intravenous drips like a toy to be shared. Unlike here, anal is virtually non-existent on the bargirl menu. Add it up.

During the 6 years I lived in the Philippines, I had unprotected sex with hundreds of bargirls-their choice, not mine-and used a condom twice. I returned to Brisbane in 2003 and was tested for HIV and all other STDs at the government clinic-negative for everything. I asked the doctors if they had experienced a wave of infected sex tourists who got the bug in Asia. They finally admitted it hadn't happened. I have been tested since and remain negative.

Are 20% of Phnom Penh bargirls HIV positive? I seriously doubt it.[/QUOTE]What's your experience?

Chlamydia has evolved and is now becoming resistant to Azithromycin. Philippines has high levels of chlamydia accompanied by very poor phamacutical practices where girls with possible STD get wrong treatment from pharmacy hands who are not qualified to dispense, let alone diagnose.

Even though a diagnosis is spot on, the girls can only afford meds for say 2 days, promising to come back later for the rest. If the ailment clears, they don't return. If it doesn't clear, they seek a different medication aiding in resistance. Some can't afford to get the remaining dose and hope the infection goes away.

With more diverse travellers comming to Angeles, expect something to fester soon as the Japs, Malaysians have their own crawlies in their pants.

[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1370731]Does the following accurately describe the state of affairs in PI these days?

What's your experience?[/QUOTE]Actually, this is exactly what a doctor in the Philippines told me as well. He said IV drug use is non-existant in the PI because Filipinos are devoutly Catholic and are afraid that "evil spirits" will enter the body when injected by a needle. Also, he mentioned that anal sex is not common among heterosexuals, but did mention the HIV problem does exist among gay filipinos.

I have no idea if what he said is true, but personally, I don't worry about HIV in the Philippines as a straight male. I've been tested every twelve months the last three years because of work visa requirements and always came up negative. Same with being tested back in the USA. So, my last trip to the Philippines in June I didn't even bring any condoms; it would have been like packing a sweater, I'm not going to use them and it will just take up space in my carry-on luggage.

You do have to watch out for other STDs though. From reading other boards, herpes is currently being passes around in Angeles like beads at Mardi Gras.

[QUOTE=Ezinho; 1370865]Actually, this is exactly what a doctor in the Philippines told me as well. He said IV drug use is non-existant in the PI because Filipinos are devoutly Catholic and are afraid that "evil spirits" will enter the body when injected by a needle. Also, he mentioned that anal sex is not common among heterosexuals, but did mention the HIV problem does exist among gay filipinos.

You do have to watch out for other STDs though. From reading other boards, herpes is currently being passes around in Angeles like beads at Mardi Gras.[/QUOTE]Ok, I have been properly spooked about AC and Manila. But how about other places in the PI. I have been wanting to go the PI for a mix of hobbying and regular tourism; places like the rice fields up north, Donzol for whale watching, surfing in Siargo, and diving at Cebu. Are the problems with STDs prevalent in other parts of the country too?

BTW, I agree that it is not HIV, but the other stuff that is more concerning. If you are straight male and always use a condom, female to male transmission through hetero, non-anal sex is just about zero. Herpes and MDR gonorrhea are scarier.

[QUOTE=Manny51; 1370903]Ok, I have been properly spooked about AC and Manila. But how about other places in the PI. I have been wanting to go the PI for a mix of hobbying and regular tourism; places like the rice fields up north, Donzol for whale watching, surfing in Siargo, and diving at Cebu. Are the problems with STDs prevalent in other parts of the country too?

BTW, I agree that it is not HIV, but the other stuff that is more concerning. If you are straight male and always use a condom, female to male transmission through hetero, non-anal sex is just about zero. Herpes and MDR gonorrhea are scarier.[/QUOTE]Recently got a case of gonorrhea from a DIA girl in Manila. Profile is crisca04. Beware gents. She plays innocent but she's a pro and a wild ride 4 sure.

[QUOTE=Cheapy;1371326]Recently got a case of gonorrhea from a DIA girl in Manila. Profile is crisca04. Beware gents. She plays innocent but she's a pro and a wild ride 4 sure.[/QUOTE]Not too sure about the advisability of 'naming and shaming' here. I take it that you are certain that she was the carrier and it might not be another provider?

Twice in the last few months, I have met with girls who have turned out to have serious HPV wart infections. This is the most common of STDs and is rampant in The Philippines. It is not always so obvious to spot and some types of HPV has been linked to the increasing incidence of throat cancer in young adult males. Before indulging in oral (or any other) sex with a Filipina, I would advise a digital vaginal cavity check (easily performed in the shower) followed by a visual inspection on the bed. At the same time you can perform the 'sniff' test. If she is freshly showered and her pek-pek still smells wrong, suspect the worst and take extra care.

Read the current medical literature, not the internet rip rap. There are no sexually active humans who don't have at least one of the many forms of HPV that exists. Whether that manifests itself as warts one or multiple times and whether a person's body is able to suppress the infection is dependent on any number of circumstances, but that's the reality. It's not really a serious thing. I've never had visible warts on my genitals, but with years of experience with hundreds of sexual partners there is absolutely no doubt that I harbor HPV. And so do you.

Same goes for herpes. It's alive in 85% of the world's population. Has been for centuries. Has never caused any major problems for anyone and never will. It wasn't even commonly known as a "disease" until the 1980's when, coincidentally, the first herpes medications were created by big pharma in the United States.

Just observing what I had noticed. I wouldn't want to sink any part of my anatomy in a girls bits which were infected with active HPV warts. Would you?

You might also like to look at [url]http://www.officialhealth.org/HPV-Throat-Cancer.html.[/url]

85% of the worlds population has genital herpes? I think not. I take it you mean HSV-1, most commonly seen as mouth sores.

[QUOTE]The most commonly acquired sexually transmitted infections (STIs) in the USA, chlamydia and gonorrhea, are usually cleared out swiftly and easily with a dose of oral antibiotics. But one of these infections is growing bold and finding ways to evade treatment.

More than 321, 000 cases of gonorrhea are reported each year in the USA alone-and the actual number of annual infections is probably much higher because many people do not experience symptoms. The infection has lost much of its social stigma since antibiotics were enlisted to fight it off earlier last century. But left untreated today, it can still cause pelvic inflammation, severe pregnancy complications and female infertility. Its presence increases the odds of an infection with HIV, and babies born to women with untreated gonorrhea are at risk of blindness.

Although antibiotics have reduced this infection to little more than a modern-day inconvenience for most, the bacterium (Neisseria gonorrhoeae) has been steadily evolving to knock out medical weapons. Sulfonamides ceased to be effective in treating it in the 1940s; penicillins and tetracyclines lost effectiveness in the 1970s and '80s; and fluoroquinolones were taken off the treatment table in 2007.

The last simple treatment, a class of antibiotics called cephalosporins, appears to be weakening against gonorrhea infections worldwide. And that drug resistance has now reached North America in sizable numbers, according to a new study, published online January 8 in JAMA, The Journal of the American Medical Association.

Resistance to the commonly prescribed oral antibiotic cefixime (a cephalosporin) was first detected several years ago in Japan. Since then, public health officials have been watching the phenomenon spread to Europe and now to North America.

For the new study, researchers led by Vanessa Allen, of Public Health Ontario, examined people who were treated for gonorrhea with cefixime at a clinic in Toronto. The clinic required people to come in for a follow-up appointment two to four weeks later to make sure their infection had been cleared; it also surveyed patients about whether they might have been exposed to the infection since their initial visit. These practices allowed the researchers to gather data on how often the drug failed to work.

Of 133 patients who received treatment and returned for their follow-up appointment for testing. 6.77 percent had failed to respond to treatment, which corresponds to about one in 15 infections. Drug-resistant gonorrhea has officially arrived in North America.

Other experts in the field call "its arrival deeply troubling; clinicians now face the emergence of cephalosporin-resistant N. Gonorrhoeae without any well-studied, effective backup treatment options," observed a team of researchers led by Robert Kirkcaldy, of the Division of STD Prevention at the CDC, in an essay published in the same issue of JAMA. And, they noted, as there are no proven alternative treatment waiting in the drug development wings," the antibiotic pipeline is running dry."

And our ability to track this spreading resistance has actually been hampered by the advent of rapid genetic screening. Traditional tests grew cultures of the bacteria in the lab, which could then be analyzed for strain variety and resistance profiles. Genetic testing, however, just detects the presence of the infection without revealing further details. A survey completed in 2007 showed that even then only about 5 percent of USA laboratories tested for gonorrhea via culture. And follow-up tests after treatment are not technically recommended for most cases.

The clinic used in the study might present a higher-than-average rate of gonorrhea infection in general because many of its patients are men who have had sexual encounters with other men, a population that, so far, has shown a higher rate of infections with genetic propensity to resist antibiotic treatment.

Previous research had pinpointed the presence of genes in USA cases that would indicate a possible resistance to cefixime. But this study was able to establish the rate at which the drug actually failed to treat the infection.

In light of growing drug-resistance worldwide, the USA Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) recently recommended clinicians no longer prescribe a single antibiotic treatment. Instead, they now advise that patients receive an injection of ceftriaxone as well as a week-long course of oral azithromycin or doxycycline. Kirkcaldy and his colleagues also recommend that,"all patients treated for gonorrhea should be given risk reduction counseling, offered condoms and retested for gonorrhea three months after treatment," they noted in their essay.

"Clinicians must remain vigilant for cephalosporin treatment failures and report suspected cases to the local or state health department," Kirkcaldy and his colleagues wrote."Patients with persistent or recurrent symptoms shortly after treatment should be retested for gonorrhea by culture."[/QUOTE][url]Http://news.yahoo.com/common-std-grows-resistant-treatment-north-america-220300738.html[/url]

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[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt; 1371528]Just observing what I had noticed. I wouldn't want to sink any part of my anatomy in a girls bits which were infected with active HPV warts. Would you?

You might also like to look at.

[url]http://www.officialhealth.org/HPV-Throat-Cancer.html.[/url]

85% of the worlds population has genital herpes? I think not. I take it you mean HSV-1, most commonly seen as mouth sores.[/QUOTE]No. 85 percent of the world's population has HSV (1 or 2). Despite the common names of "oral" and "genital" either variety can in fact manifest itself on any part of the human body. They can spread during break outs or during latency, with simple skin contact. Viral shedding is only sometimes accompanied by noticeable lesions. Many times the person would not know they are shedding. It's a lifelong infection that cannot be eradicated. That's why it's so common. Luckily it causes almost no harm whatsoever.

On HPV, this is what one of the foremost STD specialist in the USA wrote recently:

"For better or worse, at present HPV is a 'fact of life' and most people have it or will have it at some point in the future. Despite this fact, only a tiny minority of persons with HPV get the major consequences of infection (primarily women and primarily cancer and pre-cancerous lesions). HPV is the most commonly acquired STD. Over 85% of sexually active women will have HPV infection at some time in their lives. The figure for men is less well studied but similar. In some HPV will cause genital warts, in others it will not cause warts but may lead to changes in PAP smears. In nearly everyone who gets HPV, warts or otherwise, the infections will resolve by themselves without therapy in 8-24 months. In a very small minority of women, HPV infection can persist and lead to the pre-cancerous lesions that PAP smears detect and which can then be treated."

[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt; 1371528]You might also like to look at.

[url]http://www.officialhealth.org/HPV-Throat-Cancer.html.[/url][/QUOTE]HPV strains can certainly cause lesions in the throat / larynx and in a very small subset bordering on rare transition to cancer which of course is a terrible way to die if not treated early; it is more responsive to more common form of squamous throat cancers which are much more prevalent associated with risk factors of smoking and drinking.

The Gardisil / HPV vaccine is very effective in preventing HPV lesions / malignancies (cancers) but not 100% as there are over 30 different strains of the papilloma virus and Gardisil might be effective against 2/3 or so of them. I'm not currently well read up on the immunology and microbiology of the HPV, but I think the vaccine is fairly analogous to the influenza vaccine whereby at least a slight majority of the strains are effectively immunized against.

Since cervical cancer is a leading cause of death in younger women (associated with HPV lesions going bad), the Gardisil vaccine has appropriately caught on at least in the US for females, but not quite yet so for males. The threat of laryngeal cancer is enough for me to have my 14 yo son get the vaccine series. Too late for us old buzzards, probably carrying several of the strains already.

For the warts, better living through (bio) chemistry. Liquid nitrogen and podopylline work very well.

[QUOTE=Pete Benetar; 1371688]HPV strains can certainly cause lesions in the throat / larynx and in a very small subset bordering on rare transition to cancer which of course is a terrible way to die if not treated early; it is more responsive to more common form of squamous throat cancers which are much more prevalent associated with risk factors of smoking and drinking.

The Gardisil / HPV vaccine is very effective in preventing HPV lesions / malignancies (cancers) but not 100% as there are over 30 different strains of the papilloma virus and Gardisil might be effective against 2/3 or so of them. I'm not currently well read up on the immunology and microbiology of the HPV, but I think the vaccine is fairly analogous to the influenza vaccine whereby at least a slight majority of the strains are effectively immunized against.

Since I had the honor of working on one of these vaccines, let me add to this. Both Gardisil (Merck) and Cervarix (GSK) are quadravalent vaccines (meaning that they are designed to cover 4 strains of HPV). These 4 strains of HPV were selected since they account for most of the cervical cancer cases cause by HPV. And they are also able to protect against some of the other strains through cross-immumogenicity. The vaccines are highly effective and now are suggested for both young women and men (at least in the USA). The vaccines cannot cause HPV because they are only "particles' of the virus, not live virus (just like you can't get the flu from a killed flu vaccine. Even though some people think you can, you cannot).

The HPV strains that cause warts in general don't cause cervical or anal cancer, although the vaccines seem to protect from some cases of genital warts.

I have gotten HPV vaccine for some of my filipina GFs. The cost is approximately 4000 pesos per injection. 3 injections required at 0, 1 and 6 months and its lifetime protection. The main side effect. Sore arm that can be pretty sore for a few days. I believe in this vaccine so I usually send the girls "lay person" information and ask them to read it and consider getting it. To date, all have said "yes" and I don't twist their arms.

Enjoy filipinas.

GG

[QUOTE=Geneva Guy; 1371786]

[QUOTE=Pete Benetar; 1371688]Since I had the honor of working on one of these vaccines, let me add to this. Both Gardisil (Merck) and Cervarix (GSK) are quadravalent vaccines (meaning that they are designed to cover 4 strains of HPV). These 4 strains of HPV were selected since they account for most of the cervical cancer cases cause by HPV. And they are also able to protect against some of the other strains through cross-immumogenicity. The vaccines are highly effective and now are suggested for both young women and men (at least in the USA). The vaccines cannot cause HPV because they are only "particles' of the virus, not live virus (just like you can't get the flu from a killed flu vaccine. Even though some people think you can, you cannot).

The HPV strains that cause warts in general don't cause cervical or anal cancer, although the vaccines seem to protect from some cases of genital warts.

Enjoy filipinas.

GG[/QUOTE]Only Gardisil from Merck is tetravalent while Cervarix is only bivalent and only Gardisil I think is really effective in preventing genital warts. The CDC states 90% of warts are caused by HPV 6 and 11. Gardisil protects against HPV 6, 11, 16 and 18 while Cervarix only infers immunity for HPV strains 16 and 18.

Is the following still the practice in effect:

"Entertainers in Manila and in Angeles City are registered with the local municipality and participate in a "Social Hygiene Program". The entertainers have to go in for a weekly "smear" which is a gram stain test for gonorrhoea. They are also checked periodically for syphilis and HIV. No test, no work."

[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1374044]Is the following still the practice in effect:

"Entertainers in Manila and in Angeles City are registered with the local municipality and participate in a "Social Hygiene Program". The entertainers have to go in for a weekly "smear" which is a gram stain test for gonorrhoea. They are also checked periodically for syphilis and HIV. No test, no work."[/QUOTE]Yah, but the test just takes a few minutes.

If you are one of those who don't believe on living on the fast lane. Take the girl for your own test LOL

[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1374044]Is the following still the practice in effect:

"Entertainers in Manila and in Angeles City are registered with the local municipality and participate in a "Social Hygiene Program". The entertainers have to go in for a weekly "smear" which is a gram stain test for gonorrhoea. They are also checked periodically for syphilis and HIV. No test, no work."[/QUOTE]PP.

Given this FR and the other where you sound wimpy and girlie regarding safety in Manila (see my reply) suggest you stay away as this is not the place for delicate sould like yourself LOL.

Leave the totty to those who more experienced and less afraid is my advice.

And why ask this is a safe sex thread when you will be using condoms but there are normal tests you can do before shagging (if you RTFF you will find the adivice)

But stay away from the Philippines you seem too frightened to be a monger LOL

[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1374044]Is the following still the practice in effect:

"Entertainers in Manila and in Angeles City are registered with the local municipality and participate in a "Social Hygiene Program". The entertainers have to go in for a weekly "smear" which is a gram stain test for gonorrhoea. They are also checked periodically for syphilis and HIV. No test, no work."[/QUOTE]And guess who employs the doctor. The club. So go figure. A girl makes her money banging guys every day. For sure she will catch something now and again. But a club with no girls isn't a club. So. As many girls have told me,"Sir its all for show".

If you go you go knowing what you know. If you don't go, thats your choice.

Less questions and more reports is how this forum works best.

[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1374044]Is the following still the practice in effect:

"Entertainers in Manila and in Angeles City are registered with the local municipality and participate in a "Social Hygiene Program". The entertainers have to go in for a weekly "smear" which is a gram stain test for gonorrhoea. They are also checked periodically for syphilis and HIV. No test, no work."[/QUOTE]No test, no work is the rule. Only the reliability of the test is in question.

In Phi there are many laws on the books. There are no checks to make sure if they are followed. Even if an investigation takes place some bribing will definitely make it go away.

[QUOTE=Sammon; 1374949]No test, no work is the rule. Only the reliability of the test is in question.

In Phi there are many laws on the books. There are no checks to make sure if they are followed. Even if an investigation takes place some bribing will definitely make it go away.[/QUOTE]What kind of checks are you referring to? Why would STI testing in Angeles City be any more "in question" or less reliable than anywhere else in the world? It seems the reported low HIV rate amongst bar girls goes hand in hand with the claim the bar girls are being regularly tested.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1374853]And guess who employs the doctor. The club. So go figure. A girl makes her money banging guys every day. For sure she will catch something now and again. But a club with no girls isn't a club. So. As many girls have told me,"Sir its all for show".[/QUOTE]So what are you saying? That a doctor takes the hookers blood sample for an HIV test but, since it's all "just for show", he doesn't really do a HIV test on the blood sample & tosses it in the garbage can? That no records are kept of individual workers STI history? How do you know the clubs employ the doctors, rather than an acredited clinic or hospital?

[QUOTE=Econo Tech; 1374354]If you are one of those who don't believe on living on the fast lane. Take the girl for your own test LOL[/QUOTE]In BKK I take streetwalkers for HIV testing at Bumrungrad, a world class hospital. Can this be done in AC? What about giving bar girls a rapid HIV test in my hotel room, that gives a result in minutes? Where can these be purchased?

[url]http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/local-news/2011/03/26/over-8t-positive-stds-2010-cebu-city-tests-show-146989[/url]

[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1375145]What kind of checks are you referring to? Why would STI testing in Angeles City be any more "in question" or less reliable than anywhere else in the world? It seems the reported low HIV rate amongst bar girls goes hand in hand with the claim the bar girls are being regularly tested.

So what are you saying? That a doctor takes the hookers blood sample for an HIV test but, since it's all "just for show", he doesn't really do a HIV test on the blood sample & tosses it in the garbage can? That no records are kept of individual workers STI history? How do you know the clubs employ the doctors, rather than an acredited clinic or hospital?[/QUOTE]See, you are missing the point.

Officially, Prostitution doesn't exist, as it is illegal, and the bar girls are their to have a drink with clients and spend some time. No sex involved.

Ever figured out how the Bar fines are classified as? They are classified as Early Work Release. I. E. Client pays money to spend time with the girl outside the bar. NOT IN A ROOM Screwing. Atleast officially. And that goes for PNoy's friends who used to frequent AC.

Oh, well, even in Manila, rich men go to Gentleman's clubs, to socialise. No. They don't take private rooms to have sex.

If you are still wondering what I am on, stay away from Philippines LOL.

Over and out. No offence

[QUOTE=Econo Tech; 1375580]See, you are missing the point.

Officially, Prostitution doesn't exist, as it is illegal, and the bar girls are their to have a drink with clients and spend some time. No sex involved.

Ever figured out how the Bar fines are classified as? They are classified as Early Work Release. I. E. Client pays money to spend time with the girl outside the bar. NOT IN A ROOM Screwing. Atleast officially. And that goes for PNoy's friends who used to frequent AC.

Oh, well, even in Manila, rich men go to Gentleman's clubs, to socialise. No. They don't take private rooms to have sex.

If you are still wondering what I am on, stay away from Philippines LOL.

Over and out. No offence[/QUOTE]Sorry, but I don't see the connection of your post to mine, or the subject of this thread, which is titled Safe Sex in the PI.

Your post is about the legality of prostitution & barfines in PI, while mine that you replied to was about STIs, HIV & Safe Sex.

Perhaps you should consider reposting in the thread titled General Info.

[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1375935]Sorry, but I don't see the connection of your post to mine, or the subject of this thread, which is titled Safe Sex in the PI.

Your post is about the legality of prostitution & barfines in PI, while mine that you replied to was about STIs, HIV & Safe Sex.

Perhaps you should consider reposting in the thread titled General Info.[/QUOTE]PP.

I say again don't COME TO THE PHILIPPINES.

Clearly you are too scared and think you will get HIV and STDs from looking at pinays.

Your repeated FRs show a lack of understanding and fear neither of which will do you well in Manila etc and you may end up doing a FR on robbed (see the other thread)

[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1375935]Sorry, but I don't see the connection of your post to mine, or the subject of this thread, which is titled Safe Sex in the PI.[/QUOTE]ET's point involves a chain of logic. 1. Prostitution is illegal in the Phils, and therefore all these various clubs are hiding their real purpose behind other names-in fact, a series of veiled labels. 2. If the clubs hide their real reason for existence, then they probably are not committed to making sure STI tests are done carefully (in other words, it's all just a show).3. If the tests are a sham, mongers should not put much stake in any claims the girls or bars make about the "proof" of girls being STI-free. Whether or not you agree with his argument, there really was a logic to it, and it really does relate to safe sex in the Philippines.

ET, WR, and FF are experienced Phils mongers, have been following the Phils Forum for many years, and know their way around the mongering scene here. You can learn many factoids about the Phils from online sources, but they're not of much value if you can't relate them to some context that comes from experience on the ground. An "average" STI rate is not a meaningful point of reference, since it's an arithmetic mean calculated across the entire population. What it doesn't show is whether there are vast areas with essentially no STIs, and other small areas where most of the STIs are concentrated. Similarly, a crime rate for Manila is calculated across the entire metro area. It includes gated communities with essentially no crime and numerous horrendous slums where men's typical employment is scavenging recyclable materials--or crime. Experienced expats and mongers stay out of those areas unless escorted in by Filipinos. By sticking to areas that are generally safe, not displaying expensive jewelry and watches, carrying only small amounts of cash that are carefully secured on your person, and not getting drunk in public you can avoid becoming a crime statistic.

Following ET's lead, I mean no offense by this: please step back from some of these feuds you're fighting and consider that these experienced mongers know what they're talking about--whether it's about general safety in Manila, STI testing, or behind the scenes activities that keep these establishments in business. You'll get more candid advice from guys who know the Phils scene if you refrain from feuding with experienced Phils mongers before you've ever set foot in the country. Or you can jump back defensively at me, and then one more guy will stop responding to your many questions.

[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1375145]In BKK I take streetwalkers for HIV testing at Bumrungrad, a world class hospital. Can this be done in AC? Where can these be purchased?

[url]http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/local-news/2011/03/26/over-8t-positive-stds-2010-cebu-city-tests-show-146989[/url][/QUOTE]Sure it can be done in AC. Would I trust the results of a 5 minute test? Clearly you don't know the Philippines yet. Just buy condoms or don't go.

[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1375935]Sorry, but I don't see the connection of your post to mine, or the subject of this thread, which is titled Safe Sex in the PI.

Your post is about the legality of prostitution & barfines in PI, while mine that you replied to was about STIs, HIV & Safe Sex.

Perhaps you should consider reposting in the thread titled General Info.[/QUOTE]What you are missing is that it is incredibly difficult to contract HIV from normal vaginal sex with a woman. Now, if you believe otherwise you will be a mental wreck, so stay at home, hide under the bed and stay safe. Of course, you may pick up an STI, but hey, that's experience we all will have one day, no biggie.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1376114]Sure it can be done in AC. Would I trust the results of a 5 minute test? Clearly you don't know the Philippines yet. Just buy condoms or don't go.[/QUOTE]Buy condoms, like the guy who just reported in the AC thread who brought a box of 40 with him & left with it still unopened?

To answer your query, I'd trust the results of a quality rapid HIV test about the same as I'd trust a plastic baggie for sex.

[QUOTE=Skip Kost;1376111]ET's point involves a chain of logic. 1. Prostitution is illegal in the Phils, and therefore all these various clubs are hiding their real purpose behind other names-in fact, a series of veiled labels. 2. If the clubs hide their real reason for existence, then they probably are not committed to making sure STI tests are done carefully (in other words, it's all just a show).3. If the tests are a sham, mongers should not put much stake in any claims the girls or bars make about the "proof" of girls being STI-free. Whether or not you agree with his argument, there really was a logic to it, and it really does relate to safe sex in the Philippines.[/QUOTE]That's quite interesting speculation or conspiracy theory type stuff.

Is there any solid evidence or reasons to back it up?

[QUOTE=AussieDoug;1376164]What you are missing is that it is incredibly difficult to contract HIV from normal vaginal sex with a woman. Now, if you believe otherwise you will be a mental wreck, so stay at home, hide under the bed and stay safe. Of course, you may pick up an STI, but hey, that's experience we all will have one day, no biggie.[/QUOTE]Not all women are made equal, so the difficulty is largely a matter of luck or the lack thereof. It would be impossible to contract HIV from a HIV negative woman.

But if your woman is HIV positive, has a high viral load, other STI or abrasions or sores that increase the liklihood of transmitting her HIV, and if you are not immune to HIV, not circumcised, and rough sex occurs with a big cock on a tight pussy, then it's not that difficult.

I'd estimate it would be around a 1 in 100 chance her partner would become HIV infected from one session of condomless sex with her. And about the same if it's anal sex with a condom. Add a condom to the vaginal sex and it's about a 1 in 1000 risk of getting HIV. Quite a number of studies, BTW, have been done re the rate of transmisability of HIV.

But I still engage & am not a "mental wreck" because I take precautions, have the benefit of safe sex measures, and am willing to live with the consequences should they fail.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1376114]Sure it can be done in AC. Would I trust the results of a 5 minute test? Clearly you don't know the Philippines yet. Just buy condoms or don't go.[/QUOTE]PP is basing his position on his experience in more sophisticated places in that he assumes that all laboratory tests will be done properly and that everything will be logged in well-organised records. He cannot accept the fact that we are ALL saying that this does NOT happen in the Philippines, and he cannot believe it or understand it so he is challenging those of us who know what really happens.

When 100s of tests are done each day in 100s of different jurisdictions all over the Philippines it is simply not feasible for these tests to be done accurately and proper records to be kept. I asked for a detailed account from a friend who went for her monthly swab at Makati City Hall along with 100s of her co-workers. She was in and out in 15 minutes. Results in the afternoon. No time to do any sort of culture test.

It is all done as "window-dressing".

The costs alone to do these tests properly are extreme and for sure nobody is paying for it out of government coffers.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt;1376189]I asked for a detailed account from a friend who went for her monthly swab at Makati City Hall along with 100s of her co-workers.[/QUOTE]Are the tests done weekly or monthly, or does it vary from bar to bar?

You say monthly re your friend, yet in post 66 of this thread ET answered in the affirmative to weekly tests & everything else I quoted being in effect, including HIV testing.

Yet in PMs I've recieved from a veteran PI monger his vast experience knows nothing of regular HIV testing of all bar girls.

[quote=red kilt; 1376189]when 100s of tests are done each day in 100s of different jurisdictions all over the philippines it is simply not feasible for these tests to be done accurately and proper records to be kept. i asked for a detailed account from a friend who went for her monthly swab at makati city hall along with 100s of her co-workers. she was in and out in 15 minutes. results in the afternoon. no time to do any sort of culture test.

it is all done as "window-dressing".

the costs alone to do these tests properly are extreme and for sure nobody is paying for it out of government coffers.[/quote]in fact, if anybody knows how the bar raids happen- suddenly the target of the raid is quoted as having employed under-age girls, and charged etc. etc. and how do the cops conclude that the owner had under-age girls? by doing a [b]'dental' [/b]check. no kidding, and add to it, the test is done by a dentist. to certify the girls are ****.

and when the parents turn up and produce birth certificates showing the girls are really above age, suddenly the cops scratch their arse and admit their testing is flawed. normally this happens when the bar owner has 'paid up' the penalty fees.

if you believe the medical tests are comprehensive. well, let me spill this to you. my former gf, who was working as a ob gyn in san fernando (that's like away from ac). she was wondering why the "gros" have a high incidence of stis. i asked her how she know they are gros, and she said that they did mention they are working as gro in bars.

i didn't dare tell her that gro = official name for pros. after all, again, prostitution doesn't exist in philippines.

she did say that they don't do comprehensive tests, as the philhealth will not cover sti tests, the bar owners / agents only want basic health checks. no detailed tests. btw.

[QUOTE=AussieDoug;1376164]Now, if you believe otherwise you will be a mental wreck, so stay at home, hide under the bed and stay safe. Of course, you may pick up an STI, but hey, that's experience we all will have one day, no biggie.[/QUOTE]PP.

You have been given so much advice it is ridiculous! Are you not reading what is said? There is no 100% test unless you take her to a clinic yourself, you pay and you keep her tied up for the 48-72 hrs it may take for the test result to provide an answer!

If you let her go outside (ie out of your sight) in between the test and result she may shag another guy and then you are back to squarre one again!

So ET, SK, RK, AD, myself and others have told you various things. Stop asking more inane questions and go elsewhewre, leave the Philippines to much sronger and wiser men LOL Clearly you are becoming a mental wreck already and you are not even in the country.

Or use condoms but even that had you worried or something.

Hiding under the bed as AD said is probably best for you as am sure you can't get HIV, STDs from your hand? Or can you. Best ask that question as well LOL

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1376568]PP.

You have been given so much advice it is ridiculous! Are you not reading what is said? There is no 100% test unless you take her to a clinic yourself, you pay and you keep her tied up for the 48-72 hrs it may take for the test result to provide an answer![/QUOTE]Actually I hope he carries on with his questions.

Its quite amusing to read the levels of fear that a trip to Pussyland can invoke in someone.

If you spot a guy in seat 62A shaking like a leaf, white faced, knuckles clenched, sporting a cross of garlic in one hand and silver bullets in the other (imitation bullets, no live rounds on planes) and a giant, giant roll of clingfilm in his carry on, it may just be our question asking PP.

When he completes "reason for visiting Philippines" on his entry card what will he write." hoping to have sex but too damn scared to actually do so "

[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1376181]Not all women are made equal, so the difficulty is largely a matter of luck or the lack thereof. It would be impossible to contract HIV from a HIV negative woman.

But if your woman is HIV positive, has a high viral load, other STI or abrasions or sores that increase the liklihood of transmitting her HIV, and if you are not immune to HIV, not circumcised, and rough sex occurs with a big cock on a tight pussy, then it's not that difficult.

I'd estimate it would be around a 1 in 100 chance her partner would become HIV infected from one session of condomless sex with her. And about the same if it's anal sex with a condom. Add a condom to the vaginal sex and it's about a 1 in 1000 risk of getting HIV. Quite a number of studies, BTW, have been done re the rate of transmisability of HIV.

But I still engage & am not a "mental wreck" because I take precautions, have the benefit of safe sex measures, and am willing to live with the consequences should they fail.[/QUOTE]Cast your mind back to the TV series Starsky & Hutch, the curly haired boffin was named Paul Michael Glasser. Now after he finished jumping over car hoods he mmet and married a like minded sould in Hollywood and they had two daughters. What he did not know was that she had contracted HIV in her younger days by intravenous drug usage. Now it is feasible to assume that our TV star popped the cherry more than 100 times in his married life, but when his kids were about 10 yrs old, Mum was tested and came up positive, not so husband, kids were positive too. It is very difficult to catch HIV from normal vaginal intercourse, but for god's sake stay away from bumholes. Got it? Everything you are sprouting is the AIDS industry poppycock, let me tell you another story. When HIV was "discovered" here in Australia the then President of the AMA (Doctor's union) went on TV and advised the simple single way to stop the spread of HIV was to get all faggots (he did not use that word) put them in one spot and build a fence around them, problem fixed. He was the only doctor who never got a second term as President and was never interviewed on TV again in his life. It was made into a heterosexual disease because the politics at the time would not support money being spent (viewed as wasted) on faggots and druggies.

[QUOTE=AussieDoug;1376635]Cast your mind back to the TV series Starsky & Hutch, the curly haired boffin was named Paul Michael Glasser. Now after he finished jumping over car hoods he mmet and married a like minded sould in Hollywood and they had two daughters. What he did not know was that she had contracted HIV in her younger days by intravenous drug usage. Now it is feasible to assume that our TV star popped the cherry more than 100 times in his married life, but when his kids were about 10 yrs old, Mum was tested and came up positive, not so husband, kids were positive too. It is very difficult to catch HIV from normal vaginal intercourse, but for god's sake stay away from bumholes.[/QUOTE]If in 10 years he had sex with his HIV positive wife once a week that's about 500 times. Many married guys don't get that much, but let's go with it. Assuming he's not immune, and the chance of infection from her is 1 in 1000 times, he had roughly a 50 percent chance of being infected. So basicly a coin flip, and hardly an example that would support the theory that HIV is extremely hard to transmit via normal heterosexual penile to vaginal sex.

OTOH I've seen several claims, that went to court, of a HIV positive guy infecting a number of ladies within a few years. Though I can't say whether any anal sex was involved or not and evidently it's easier for the female to be infected via vaginal sex than the male. The following story was also in the news:

"A German national is believed to have deliberately infected more than 450 young women with the HIV / AIDS virus in Thailand's northern Chaiyaphum province."

[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1376980]evidently it's easier for the female to be infected via vaginal sex than the male. ."[/QUOTE]Umm right. Most males don't have pussies. LOL

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1377383]Umm right. Most males don't have pussies. LOL[/QUOTE]That is a strange comment. Where do you stick yours in?

[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1376181]It would be impossible to contract HIV from a HIV negative woman.[/QUOTE]This is 'fuzzy logic'! Please say: "It would be possible to contract HIV from a HIV negative tested woman"!

The quite popular ELISA HIV Test (3rd generation) is giving a 95 % to 99 % (according to the source of information) correct result about 12 weeks after the HIV infection.

I think you better avoid any sexual relationship all around the world and prefer ending your life any other way.

[QUOTE=Ganesha;1377592]This is 'fuzzy logic'! Please say: "It would be possible to contract HIV from a HIV negative tested woman"![/QUOTE]Not if she's HIV negative.

Secondly, it would also be "possible to contract HIV" when using condoms.

[QUOTE=Ganesha;1377592]The quite popular ELISA HIV Test (3rd generation) is giving a 95 % to 99 % (according to the source of information) correct result about 12 weeks after the HIV infection.[/QUOTE]In BKK we get both an antigen and antibody test for HIV. A doctor there said the window period is 2 weeks. Results in 1 to 2 hours.

BKK also offers the NAT HIV test with an even shorter window period. Results in about 72 hours.

What tests does AC have? The other day I read a site that spoke of a clinic there that offers free HIV testing. It also spoke of a 300 peso test and a pricey do it yourself test that can be purchased online:

Couragephilippines dot blog spot dot com / 2011/07 / hiv-testing-centers-in-Philippines dot html

According to the following UNAIDS 2012 report on the Philippines:

"The AIDS epidemic in the Philippines has been rapidly changing in the past five years. The increase in the number of new HIV infections is at a pace the country has never seen before. From one new case every three days in year 2000, to one new case every three hours by the end of 2011. Cases are mostly concentrated among males who have sex with males and people who inject drugs in certain geographic areas.

". In general, the Philippines has a low HIV prevalence, estimated at 0. 036 percent in 2011 or 36 cases per 100, 000 adult Filipinos. Based on the current trend, HIV prevalence will likely double but remain below one percent by 2015, or 0. 063 percent, or 63 per 100, 000.

". Percentage of eligible adults and children currently receiving antiretroviral therapy. 84. 91%

". Percentage of people who inject drugs who are living with HIV. 13. 56%

". Percentage of men reporting the use of a condom the last time they had anal sex with a male partner. 36. 29.

". Percentage of men who have sex with men that have received an HIV test in the past 12 months and know their result. 5.17.

". Percentage of men who have sex with men who are living with HIV. 1.68.

". Percentage of sex-workers reached with HIV prevention programmes. 63. 11.

". Percentage of sex workers reporting the use of a condom with their most recent client. 64. 93.

". Percentage of sex workers who have received an HIV test in the past 12 months and know their results. 16. 53.

". Percentage of sex workers who are living with HIV. 0.275. FFSW: 0. 43 (20/4, 603)

[url]http://www.unaids.org/en/dataanalysis/knowyourresponse/countryprogressreports/2012countries/ce_PH_Narrative_Report.pdf[/url]

[QUOTE=Ganesha;1377592]I think you better avoid any sexual relationship all around the world and prefer ending your life any other way.[/QUOTE]Your post gave no reason for this opinion.

[quote=pinkpearl;1377713]your post gave no reason for this opinion.[/quote]the reasoning was reasonably implied. you can get hiv tested regularly or as often as you can afford. when you seroconvert, get on a retroviral regimen. you will live a long and productive life imo. ask magic johnson.

current retrovirals have eliminated sexual transmission between both gay and hetero partners alike (nih hptn 052). what the hptn 052 data tells me is that state of the art retrovirals shut the hiv down.

[url]http://www.niaid.nih.gov/news/newsreleases/2011/pages/hptn052.aspx[/url]

or, keep posting about it and stop sexing for the next 10 years until an hiv vaccine or therapeutic agent is developed. biotechs are in the midst of an antiviral/immunotherapeutic boon and i think it's realistic to expect either a vaccine or an effective hiv purging agent within the decade.

PP all these FRs on HIV and all your daft questions are annoying and many have said same but no so directly. Why keep asking all this as by the time you arrive in PI you will be so worried you won't even jerk off in case you get HIV from the sheets in the hotel LOL, do you think you can get HIV and STDs from toilet seats even if your todger not touch the seat LOL

Your FRs are becoming more ridiculous. Either come to PI find out for yourself and sit with a doctor at a hospital all day every day and refrain from shagging as some have said or don't COME ANYWHERE NEAR here as you have no clue, will be a nervous wreck and an ideal candidate to be scammed.

Now no more telling us about HIV while using condoms etc as we can all google and RTFF if we want to.

So decide. Do you come to PI or go BKK where you seems to wait 2 weeks for a shag LOL.

Rant mode off LOL

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger;1377891]PP all these FRs on HIV and all your daft questions are annoying and many have said same but no so directly.L[/QUOTE]Touche. Ok, that is all I SHOULD have said! LOL

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger;1377891]So decide. Do you come to PI or go BKK where you seems to wait 2 weeks for a shag LOL.[/QUOTE]I don't wait 2 weeks for a shag, even though waiting through the window period is what is generally recommended by the medical profession, for the practice of Safe Sex.

You appear to have misconstrued my comment about certain HIV tests done in BKK & the doctor who said the window period is 2 weeks. My purpose in having myself & my partners tested is because, like condom use, it is commonly considered to be a Safe Sex measure. You are significantly safer having sex with a AC or BKK P4P gal who has just tested negative for HIV using AN / AB or NAT tests than one whose status you have no clue about or who claims to have never been tested.

[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1377941]I don't wait 2 weeks for a shag, even though waiting through the window period is what is generally recommended by the medical profession, for the practice of Safe Sex.

You appear to have misconstrued my comment about certain HIV tests done in BKK & the doctor who said the window period is 2 weeks. My purpose in having myself & my partners tested is because, like condom use, it is commonly considered to be a Safe Sex measure. You are significantly safer having sex with a AC or BKK P4P gal who has just tested negative for HIV using AN / AB or NAT tests than one whose status you have no clue about or who claims to have never been tested.[/QUOTE]PP.

Who cares as you seem the only person who endlessly wants to tell us about this.

Noone else gives a sh*t and you can't read the FRs and the subtle (in my case non too subtle) message to stay off PI board and stay away from PI

If BKK does it how you like and you wait the required period who gives a damn, just shag the cuties and have. Go to Thailand again and bore the pants of those there (am sure IBall and Giotto would love to converse at length on this subject.)

You make it sound so medical that I think you like dressing up in a doctors outfit or maybe you prefer the nurses uniform LOL

I don't understand why so many forum members are ganging up on PP here. Although I admit that he seems slightly overly cautious, he still raises some excellent questions and doubts that are worthy of discussions that I want to follow. I am not a self-righteous saint, but I do want to continue to keep myself clean. What's wrong with putting some facts and inside information out there for debate? The opinions on his posts are all thoughtfully and intelligently written. This forum is at its best when people post their experiences, ask others of theirs, and wrestle with discussion.

And whenever I read the bravado from posters who boast that how they are 'strong' enough to go without protection, and beat their chests, telling him to stay away from the PI because he's not 'man' enough, it just makes me roll my eyes. They are clearly just trying to rationalize something about themselves (Hmmmm.) Anyway, the title of this thread is 'Safe Sex in the Phillipines, ' so if you don't want to discuss this issue, then just go to another thread! There is no point in unleashing such vitriol and poisoning the well. Just go to the general city / country threads and upload your Penthouse Letters. Nothing screams "loser" like trolls and forum haters.

Amjek said:

"Yes, PI has a low incidence of hiv / aids. One of the reasons could be that the majority of men are circumsized. Anyhow, with the increase of foreigners arriving every year to fuck, Pi will probably see a rise in hiv infection rates."

Very interesting, Amjek. If this is true, it is a huge factor in hindering the spread of HIV in the Philippines:

"The overall prevalence of circumcision (tuli) in the Philippines is reported to be 92. 5. Most circumcision in the Philippines are performed at the age of 11 to 13. [49][50]"

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prevalence_of_circumcision[/url]

BTW I've noticed some comments about AC bars being full of old codgers. I suggest they'd be more likely to be have been circumcised, especially if they were from the USA, than the youth of today.

[QUOTE=Noddy; 1285534]Just not practical nor realistic, Sopwith. How much thought did you apply to this idea of yours mate, not that I'm being sarcastic? Having had the dreaded Gonorrhea, one is supposed to take precautions by wearing the horrendous raincoat or else abstain from the sex act. Having between two to three sessions a day, getting checked in between would be ludicrous, time consuming, costly and forget finding a test facility, wait your turn, wait for results. When do I eat, sleep and take a dump?

Besides, the Beer is going to be warm.[/QUOTE]With all the old codgers in AC, I wonder if 2 or 3 sessions a day is their experience? Personally that could easily do me for a week or a month. I'd be mighty bored of it thrice daily for a couple weeks, let alone a couple months or years.

Time consuming? If your in AC, there's nothing to do but sex & drink, & if you don't drink, what are you going to do all day, watch cartoons? Getting checked for STIs in one's spare time is a good investment of time & money towards one's own health, besides the effect that will have on others. And while I'm at it, I'd get a bargirl or two checked out too.

Costly? In the Phillipnes?

Finding a test facility? How difficult can this be?

Wait your turn & for results? Maybe purchase test kits online?

[QUOTE=Manny51;1379969]And whenever I read the bravado from posters who boast that how they are 'strong' enough to go without protection, and beat their chests, telling him to stay away from the PI because he's not 'man' enough, it just makes me roll my eyes. .[/QUOTE]You are totally missing the point. Nobody is chest thumping here.

Those who are politely telling anybody to steer clear of Philippines if you are looking for "SAFE SEX" is. In my eyes. 99. 9999% correct.

Safe sex doesn't exist in Philippines. That's what we are trying to say.

Forget about all the HIV / STD stuff.

I personally squirmed at a girl, whos vagina's external area had warts and I refused to screw her. And my Filipino friend had no qualms screwing her bareback.

So if the natives have that mentality, what do you think? And don't for fucks-sake think only the rich foreigners are screwing the working girls exclusively. More than a fair majority of the bar girls do have regular local boyfriends as well. Or more than one at times.

[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1380166]2 or 3 sessions a day is their experience. Personally that could easily do me for a week or a month. I'd be mighty bored of it thrice daily for a couple weeks, let alone a couple months or years.[/QUOTE]Wow. My sexual disorder is worse than originally thought. Are there any 12 step programs for this in the PI?

[QUOTE=Pete Benetar;1380463]Wow. My sexual disorder is worse than originally thought. Are there any 12 step programs for this in the PI?[/QUOTE]Step 1: You visit 12 times, you feel better.

Step 2: Repeat step 1.

WC1

[QUOTE=Westcoast1; 1380465]Step 1: You visit 12 times, you feel better.

Step 2: Repeat step 1.

WC1[/QUOTE]LOL. Amen. Some say: "He who dies with most toys, wins" with another bastardization: "He who dies with most notches in unit, wins"

I look a short way down the road and see this plague being quarantined. 'It' is determined to infect all who post on South East Asia threads.

[Those who are politely telling anybody to steer clear of Philippines if you are looking for "SAFE SEX" is. In my eyes. 99. 9999% correct.

Safe sex doesn't exist in Philippines. That's what we are trying to say. ]

Thanks for clarifying. Wow that's pretty alarming. I posted a question about general safety on this thread myself a few posts back, asking just how bad it was. But I read your opinion to mean that, even using protective measures, that STDs in general are so rampant, and sexual behaviors so loose, that it is impossible to bring the risk down to a reasonably conservative level. Is it like that everywhere, at tourist places like Donsol or Siargao, where I was thinking of going anyway? Or just AC and Manila?

I had to ask because, after reading through the forum, I have noticed that the term 'Safe Sex' was being used in two ways, with widely different implications.

In the first way, I use the term 'safe sex' to imply the use of condoms or any other prophylactic measure to prevent the acquisition of STDs. In the second way, I have noticed that many posters always go bareback because they like it and presume it as the norm, and then imply 'safe sex' to mean the odds of acquiring something while going bareback.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Pete Benetar;1380463]Wow. My sexual disorder is worse than originally thought. Are there any 12 step programs for this in the PI?[/QUOTE]One easy step. Use your imagination while wacking off as many times a day as you like. I usually keep it under 10.

How does that commercial go."Save your money".

And isn't abstinence a Safe Sex method recommended by the PI CC.

After a few days in a row of ST TGs I get quite bored. Just the thought of LT PI girls makes me suicidal.

Hopefully all my girls are "runners" & I can go from entering bar to hotel bed with girl in under 5 minutes. Why dick around.

"More rock, less talk."

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na8oDCKp6AU[/url]

[QUOTE=Econo Tech; 1380398]You are totally missing the point. Nobody is chest thumping here.

Those who are politely telling anybody to steer clear of Philippines if you are looking for "SAFE SEX" is. In my eyes. 99. 9999% correct.

Safe sex doesn't exist in Philippines. That's what we are trying to say.

Forget about all the HIV / STD stuff.

I personally squirmed at a girl, whos vagina's external area had warts and I refused to screw her. And my Filipino friend had no qualms screwing her bareback.

So if the natives have that mentality, what do you think? And don't for fucks-sake think only the rich foreigners are screwing the working girls exclusively. More than a fair majority of the bar girls do have regular local boyfriends as well. Or more than one at times.[/QUOTE]My definition of Safe Sex (SS) must be different from yours. Safe Sex is any measure taken to make sex safer from STIs. Although no method, including the consistent & proper use of condoms, is 100 percent effective.

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safe_sex[/url]

In that sense SS exists in theory and in practice in every country, including the Phillipines.

"Although "safe sex" is used by individuals to refer to protection against both pregnancy and HIV / AIDS or other STI transmissions, the term was primarily derived in response to the HIV / AIDS epidemic. The concept included limiting the number of sexual partners, using prophylactics, avoiding bodily fluid exchange, and resisting the use of drugs that reduced inhibitions for high-risk sexual behavior. [6]"

One SS topic I'm interested in is the relative HIV risk between P4P girls in Bangkok and bargirls in AC. I take it that in BKK they usually have uncircumcised BFs who they are fucking BB. At least the girls BFs in PI are probably circumcised, which is a significant SS measure. On this info alone I'd think if I BBed in AC I'd be significantly safer from HIV than the BBing I've already been doing for some time with streetwalkers in BKK. Although in BKK I have often had them tested for HIV.

BTW I've only had one STI, Chlamydia, over a year ago, and two weeks ago tested negative for HIV using AN & AB tests. STI testing is another way to practice Safe Sex. Word is that a number of customers of P4P gals in PI take these ladies for proper STI testing.

This comment explains some, though certainly not all, of the Safe Sex practices being used in the Philipines. A number of other measures for SS are described at the above url.

[QUOTE=Econo Tech; 1380398]You are totally missing the point. Nobody is chest thumping here.

Those who are politely telling anybody to steer clear of Philippines if you are looking for "SAFE SEX" is. In my eyes. 99. 9999% correct.

Safe sex doesn't exist in Philippines. That's what we are trying to say.

So if the natives have that mentality, what do you think? And don't for fucks-sake think only the rich foreigners are screwing the working girls exclusively. More than a fair majority of the bar girls do have regular local boyfriends as well. Or more than one at times.[/QUOTE]Maybe a way to get a better conversation going is to ask the question differently. The term "safe sex" in the question implies that I am asking about techniques in prevention, or how effective people think that condoms are in preventing transmission in the phillipines. That's a loaded question, as people have different personal habits and levels of comfort and use different degrees of protection, some stricter, some looser.

I will just concede that all safe sex practices probably have at least a very small failure rate; condoms breaking, etc.

Assuming that, what I really want to know is; How bad is the prevalence of disease there? What kinds of stuff is spreading around and how fast? Are there parts of the country that are "cleaner?"

I am not necessarily asking for statistical studies. People's own personal opinions, based on their own experiences, is very helpful too. I just want people to start sharing what they know and think. Thats what this forum community is all about.

Although I have not been a member for as long as some, nor travelled as much, I always try to post my opinions on the places that I have gone. There is always someone new to a thread asking "What's it like?" As for myself, I have never been to the phillipines and was planning to go. But reading through the forum, I have acquired some concerns. And that's why I am asking.

Take a look in "The Truth about AIDS" in opinions in and editorials. I have written some posts in that that I hope will be helpful.

I think you are all forgetting the point or losing the plot. Sex in the Philppines is just as safe as anywhere else in the world. You don't cover up. You don't take precautions. Well that's your issue. Don't blame the whole damn country for unsafe practices. Its not their responsibility it's yours!

You catch something blame yourself for being stupid enough not to take precautions.

Cover up. Stay clear of the freelancers. Stick to the bar scene. 99. 9999% of the bargirls are clean. Health checked by the Gov. They don't have the med clearance they don't work.

Really irks me when guys ask this question about safe sex. The only reason it's asked is because they don't want to take the responsibility of protecting themselves. Take responsibility for your own actions there like anywhere.

Safe sex in the Philippines. Really a stupid question. It's as safe as you want to make it. No different to here or anywhere else.

[QUOTE=TheOtherDave; 1381814]I think you are all forgetting the point or losing the plot. Sex in the Philppines is just as safe as anywhere else in the world. You don't cover up. You don't take precautions. Well that's your issue.

Cover up. Stay clear of the freelancers. Stick to the bar scene. 99. 9999% of the bargirls are clean. Health checked by the Gov. They don't have the med clearance they don't work.

Really irks me when guys ask this question about safe sex. The only reason it's asked is because they don't want to take the responsibility of protecting themselves. Take responsibility for your own actions there like anywhere.

Safe sex in the Philippines. Really a stupid question. It's as safe as you want to make it. No different to here or anywhere else.[/QUOTE]Your angered reply just reads like venting.

Firstly, I do use protection. Every time. But to assume that using a condom protects you from everything all the time is naive. Just because I am wearing kevlar doesn't mean that I want to walk into a gunfight.

Secondly, the point that some people are making on this form is that the bargirls are NOT clean, and that their health ISN'T effectively checked by the government. And that laws are NOT enforced. Many people are arguing that the STDs are indeed more prevalent in the PI. Doesn't it bother you that so many seemingly knowledgeable people are discounting all these assumptions about safety that you thought were valid?

Third, the fact that I and other people are intelligently having this discussion means that we ARE responsible members of the community.

Dude, if you feel like this is a stupid question, then just flip to another page of the forum! I promise you, plenty of close up photos of vaginas await you.

[quote=manny51; 1381924]your angered reply just reads like venting.

firstly, i do use protection. every time. but to assume that using a condom protects you from everything all the time is naive. just because i am wearing kevlar doesn't mean that i want to walk into a gunfight.

secondly, the point that some people are making on this form is that the bargirls are not clean, and that their health isn't effectively checked by the government. and that laws are not enforced. many people are arguing that the stds are indeed more prevalent in the pi. doesn't it bother you that so many seemingly knowledgeable people are discounting all these assumptions about safety that you thought were valid?

third, the fact that i and other people are intelligently having this discussion means that we are responsible members of the community.

dude, if you feel like this is a stupid question, then just flip to another page of the forum! i promise you, plenty of close up photos of vaginas await you.[/quote]yes my response is one of anger. the reason. because the thread instigates anger. yes you can throw as many stats in as you like. i can quote stats as well. statistics mean nothing. stats can be read how you want to read them. the bottom line is that it is our responsibility to alleviate the risks.

maybe the stupid question comment wasn't the right comment to use. the topic is a serious topic but unfortunately the tone of the thread lays all the blame with the girls for passing stds on. it has very little discussion about us taking responsibility to decrease the risk ourselves. how about the "monger" who is carrying and in most instances knowingly spreads, there is very little discussion about that.

i wonder how many times i'll see "mongers" bragging about unprotected sex in the forum, whether it is here or anywhere else. not only are they increasing the risk for themselves they are increasing the risk for the girls.

i have travelled to the philippines on numerous occassions (not purely for mongering). stds are no more prevalent in the philippines than they are in thailand or any se asian country. the point i am making is that quite often after a couple of weeks of mongering in the philippines or any like country someone will cry over spilt milk why? because they fail to take precautions then it is the entire country that is to blame.

your point about the bgs being unclean is not a statement of fact. the government (hypocritically i might add) does enforce health checks on the girls. weekly. check out the clinic in angeles city. get first hand experience. talk to the girls about the checks. see how legitimate they see they are. if the bg misses a health check. she doesn't get her clearance to work. the only exception to the rule is the "cherry" girl who undergoes a check monthly.

i know many bargirls or waitresses in angeles city who have missed their health checks for legitimate reasons. the bars themselves do not allow them to work until they get their clearance. that is the fact.

the only real issue with "unclean" girls lays with the freelancers. you take a freelancer. unprotected. then you take the risk as well as other associated risks such as **** etc etc.

the whole point of my post is to get rid of the stats. they can be read anyway you want. and to bring a balanced view from personal experience into the thread. if you want to lessen the risk of both transmitting and catching then take the responsibility and take precautions. don't lay all the blame with the girls.

[QUOTE=Manny51;1381924]But to assume that using a condom protects you from everything all the time is naive.[/QUOTE]What? Are you serious? If you are that paranoid then why are you mongering? Might I suggest you change hobbies, maybe risk needlepoint.

[QUOTE=David_33;1382163]What? Are you serious? If you are that paranoid then why are you mongering? Might I suggest you change hobbies, maybe risk needlepoint.[/QUOTE]It seems to me his comment was just Safe Sex 100 or 101.

Something a person who knows nothing about Safe Sex would learn in their first class.

[quote=theotherdave; 1382037]i have travelled to the philippines on numerous occassions (not purely for mongering). stds are no more prevalent in the philippines than they are in thailand or any se asian country.

(snip)

the whole point of my post is to get rid of the stats. they can be read anyway you want. and to bring a balanced view from personal experience into the thread.[/quote]i wonder how you reach this conclusion, since you believe stats are useless. surely your experience, even if you mongered daily in se asia for the last 500 years, would be less than useless as regards info about sti prevalence in these countries today.

btw, peeking in briefly at the brazil thread on safe sex the other day, info was being posted that sex workers there have a huge hiv rate of over 6 percent. too many ass lovers & too much ass fucking there, i guess. you might want to add that country to your list of african and other nations to avoid for international sex hobbying.

[quote=theotherdave;1382037]the only real issue with "unclean" girls lays with the freelancers. you take a freelancer. unprotected. then you take the risk as well as other associated risks such as **** etc etc.[/quote]sometimes freelancers are just occasional sex workers looking to pay a bill, buy food, or acquire the latest gadget. as such they would probably be far less likely to be "unclean" than those ft hardcore condom forsaking bargirls in ac.

even streetwalkers in ac may be doing so for other reasons besides being "unclean". maybe they just don't like working in bars, with their rules, noise, drinking & such. or they like to be independent & keep 100 percent of what a customer pays. or they like choosing their own customers. if they were such a high risk, why would informed veteran mongers like sir lancelot and westcoast1 regularly make use of their services?

[QUOTE=TheOtherDave; 1382037]Yes my response is one of anger. The reason. Because the thread instigates anger. Yes you can throw as many stats in as you like. I can quote stats as well. Statistics mean nothing.

Maybe the stupid question comment wasn't the right comment to use. The topic is a serious topic but unfortunately the tone of the thread lays all the blame with the girls for passing STDs on. It has very little discussion about us taking responsibility to decrease the risk ourselves. How about the "monger" who is carrying and in most instances knowingly spreads, there is very little discussion about that.

I have travelled to the Philippines on numerous occassions (not purely for mongering). STDs are no more prevalent in the Philippines than they are in Thailand or any SE Asian country.

Your point about the BGs being unclean is NOT a statement of fact. The government (hypocritically I might add) does enforce health checks on the girls. Weekly. Check out the clinic in Angeles City. She doesn't get her clearance to work. The bars themselves do not allow them to work until they get their clearance. That is the fact.

The whole point of my post is to get rid of the stats. They can be read anyway you want. And to bring a balanced view from personal experience into the thread. If you want to lessen the risk of both transmitting and catching then take the responsibility and take precautions. DON'T lay all the blame with the girls.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your clarified response.

I am not demanding the use of verified statistics, nor am I out to blame anyone. And I always advocate personal responsibility. I am the one just asking the question. Let me state for the record that I have never been to the PI, and have no experience of the scene there. I am a world traveller who is looking to make some plans, and want to know how prevalent the situation is. That's all. Believe me, I was hoping that I could just put the question out there and follow the discussion.

However, the posts have been surprisingly venomous, probably for the reasons that you stated. I have therefore felt the need to try and moderate. The answers have also been very divergent. One the one hand, I have one person saying that safe sex in the PI is 99. 99% impossible, describing people having bareback sex with external warts. On the other hand, I have someone saying that 99. 99% of the bar girls are clean, and that the bars don't let anyone work who doesn't have a reliable government issued clean bill of health. It's getting hard to form an impression.

I just wanted to hear as many opinions as possible; statistical, anecdotal, whatever.

[QUOTE=Manny51;1382417]I just wanted to hear as many opinions as possible; statistical, anecdotal, whatever.[/QUOTE]Do not know what you are really looking for. If you get infected it is 100% for you.

Short of running full blown tests on the girls you are going to have sex with there is no way to guarantee if a girl is safe. After all you are dealing with prostitutes who fuck for money.

Only safe sex anywhere in the world is how you follow safe sex guidelines. Nothing more nothing less.

[QUOTE=Sammon; 1382424]Do not know what you are really looking for. If you get infected it is 100% for you.

Short of running full blown tests on the girls you are going to have sex with there is no way to guarantee if a girl is safe. After all you are dealing with prostitutes who fuck for money.

Only safe sex anywhere in the world is how you follow safe sex guidelines. Nothing more nothing less.[/QUOTE]Dude, for the tenth time, I am NOT asking about techniques in safe sex, statistics, who's to blame, or how to guarantee anythiing.

All I want to learn from people in the know is how prevalent diseases are there; what's going around and where, and how bad it is.

Don't jump into threads of conversation if you are not willing to pay attention to what's been said, especially if you are going to take judgmental tones. And if this topic doesn't interest you, then go to another thread.

[QUOTE=Manny51;1381516]Assuming that, what I really want to know is; How bad is the prevalence of disease there? What kinds of stuff is spreading around and how fast? Are there parts of the country that are "cleaner?"[/QUOTE]Manny51,

I think no one has answered your questions, because quite frankly, they are unanswerable. Your first question,"how bad is the prevalence of disease there?" I don't know, it can't be that bad. Certainly, it seems like many of the bargirls have Chlamydia and/or Gonohrrea, but those are infections, not diseases. Of course, this new 'incurable' gonorrhea sounds awful and that is what I'm worried about the most, along with Herpes which even if you use a condom you can still catch.

(To the guy that said 99. 9999% of bargirls are clean, I haven't laughed that hard since I was a little boy. I know for a fact, from my dick's own experience, that that's not true!)

"What kind of stuff is spreading around and how fast?", again I would be worried about herpes and warts in AC and Manila, and gonorrhea and chlamydia as well, but you said you always use a condom so you shouldn't be worried about the last two. How fast are they spreading? How is anyone suppose to answer this question? I have no idea.

"Are there parts of the country that are cleaner?" I'm sure there are, but you have to remember that the Philippines is a country made up of over 7, 000 islands.

David_33 makes a good point about finding another hobby (needlepoint LOL!) but have you considered skipping the Phils and mongering in another country instead? You might like Geylang in Singapore, the houses there are very well regulated and everything was covered the times I went. They even had signs on the wall that said condoms must be used at all times. Or, if you're in the USA how about heading down to Tijuana? Everything usually covered there as well, although I find it to be a mediocre mongering destination, but some guys like it. Or maybe the brothels in Nevada? I've never been but I've heard everything is covered there, too.

Maybe skipping the Philippines is your answer?

[QUOTE=Ezinho; 1382540]Manny51,

I think no one has answered your questions, because quite frankly, they are unanswerable. Your first question,"how bad is the prevalence of disease there?" I don't know, it can't be that bad. Certainly, it seems like many of the bargirls have Chlamydia and / or Gonohrrea, but those are infections, not diseases. Of course, this new 'incurable' gonorrhea sounds awful and that is what I'm worried about the most, along with Herpes which even if you use a condom you can still catch.

(To the guy that said 99. 9999% of bargirls are clean, I haven't laughed that hard since I was a little boy. I know for a fact, from my dick's own experience, that that's not true!)

"What kind of stuff is spreading around and how fast?", again I would be worried about herpes and warts in AC and Manila, and gonorrhea and chlamydia as well, but you said you always use a condom so you shouldn't be worried as much about the last two. How fast are they spreading? How is anyone suppose to answer this question? I have no idea.

"Are there parts of the country that are cleaner?" I'm sure there are, but you have to remember that the Philippines is a country made up of over 7, 000 islands.

Maybe just skip the Philippines?[/QUOTE]Thanks for your honest reply.

I have been to both Singapore and TIjuana. I have also visited Thailand, Vietnam, Colombia, DR, CR, Aruba, Curacao, SXM, Switzerland, and probably a few more that I am forgetting.

The reason why I want to visit the PI is because I have this theory. I have observed what I think is a global trend of declining service. More and more women are getting poorer attitudes. Just trying to shake you down for money. Poor service. I can't put my finger on the cause. Maybe its the internet making the world a smaller place. Maybe its the younger generation being more spoiled or full of self loathing. I don't know why. I haven't been travelling long, but I have noticed that as the years have gone by, that the my dissatisfaction each time has been steadily growing.

But the PI has a reputation where everyone is happy / friendly, with great service and an excellent experience. That's why I want to give it a try. Before I go somewhere, I try to get the lay of the land. But for the PI, the opinions are WIDELY divergent. Some people say that everyone is tested and that infection / prevalence is minimal. Others describe it as a total cesspool. It also seems like a place that especially attracts barebackers.

People have been chiming in and giving their impressions. I was just surprised how defensive and hostile so many people are regarding this topic.

I'm not looking for God's truth, or CDC verified statistics. But the PI is the first place that I've researched where its difficult just to get an overall impression.

There are various reasons why it's difficult to provide an accurate, substantiated answer to your questions. First, as is the case in many third world countries, the government does a lousy job aggregating reliable statistics and publishing information on pubic health. As far as I know, there's no requirement here to report STDs and no reiiable central database for assessing the extent of such diseases. Second, though testing is mandatory for girls who work in bars, the quality of the testing is, or can be minimal, and since corruption is so pervasive, it's not difficult to imagine that even infected women could bribe a doctor to certify the absence of disease. Third, condom use is, as widely reported by others, largely optional and Filipino men often disdain their use, or so I'm told. This means that the SWT you're blissfully shagging today may have been blissfully screwing the brains out of her local boyfriend, sans condom, the night before. Fourth, thanks largely to the catholic church, there's no sex education provided in schools and many girls from poor families are thoroughly ignorant of the transmission patterns of disease.

All told, it's a crap shoot here. On the one hand, the reported incidence of HIV is fairly low, but said to be increasing. On the other hand, there are no reliable reports I've seen on the incidence of more routine STDs. That said, I doubt that more common STDs are any more prevalent here than in Thailand, but that's a subjective judgment with no hard statistics to back it up.

One alternative to playing here, and one that might alleviate your concerns, is to find a lady you really like being with, make a deal to stay with her the entire time you're here, and take her to visit a doctor in one of the more reputable medical centers on the first day you're with her. If she tests clean, and thereafter spends every night with you, it might provide some reassurance that your risk of infection is minimal.

GE

A week ago, in the evening at the streetside pharmacy convenience store a few doors down and across from the Lancelot while shopping for some advil or equivalent two girls walked up and each purchased a single 250 mg zithromax pill. Wonder what they're for? And taped right to the countertop is the pricing for these single pills. Must be selling quite a few of them. Wonder why (that's rhetorical please). Of course there are diseases here. Every kind there are.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1382552]Second, though testing is mandatory for girls who work in bars, the quality of the testing is, or can be minimal, and since corruption is so pervasive, it's not difficult to imagine that even infected women could bribe a doctor to certify the absence of disease. GE[/QUOTE]I actually think the incidence of std's in phils has actually decreased over the recent decades due to vast improvements in medical care which really did not exist in the 70's. If a poor bargirl from Subic caught the clap back then, she usually was not treated in a timely manner and thus infected the next horny American sailor coming into port. In addition, there is a somewhat effective public healthcare system now in Phils which the USA is still trying to implement.

[QUOTE=Screaming Beaver;1382610]I actually think the incidence of std's in phils has actually decreased over the recent decades due to vast improvements in medical care which really did not exist in the 70's. If a poor bargirl from Subic caught the clap back then, she usually was not treated in a timely manner and thus infected the next horny American sailor coming into port. In addition, there is a somewhat effective public healthcare system now in Phils which the USA is still trying to implement.[/QUOTE]Screaming Beaver,

It's amusing to see a monger so scared of catching diseases from sick beavers in the developing world. These Howard Hughes type mongers are always preoccupied with the sexual maladies associated with cheap rental beaver. They totally ignore the many other common communicable diseases that an aging immune system would have a hard time fighting off, like a case of drug resistant tuberculosis acquired from close contact with a beaver that resided in a squatter's camp at some time or other. There are plenty of other viral and bacterial diseases, and parasites that can be picked up in impoverished regions while seeking low budget beaver. I suspect these high anxiety mongers would wrap themselves in a full body condom before banging many of those sweet Filipina beavers if they ever took a trip to their slums to see where they eat, sleep, shit and bathe. Frankly, a good case of the claps or AIDS is the least of their worries.

[QUOTE=Chocha Monger; 1382626]Screaming Beaver,

It's amusing to see a monger so scared of catching diseases from sick beavers in the developing world. These Howard Hughes type mongers are always preoccupied with the sexual maladies associated with cheap rental beaver. They totally ignore the many other common communicable diseases that an aging immune system would have a hard time fighting off, like a case of drug resistant tuberculosis acquired from close contact with a beaver that resided in a squatter's camp at some time or other. There are plenty of other viral and bacterial diseases, and parasites that can be picked up in impoverished regions while seeking low budget beaver. I suspect these high anxiety mongers would wrap themselves in a full body condom before banging many of those sweet Filipina beavers if they ever took a trip to their slums to see where they eat, sleep, shit and bathe. Frankly, a good case of the claps or AIDS is the least of their worries.[/QUOTE]Oooh, if only the rest of us could be a strong as you are. We travellers born with a silver spoon in our mouths just can't handle the harshness of the real world.

Please.

There's nothing elitest about discussing STDs. And just because some of us want to discuss the lay of the land, that doesn't mean that we don't care about them as a people and a country. You are the one calling them "cheap rental beavers" living in "squatter camps." Think twice before posting such condescending comments.

"Safe sex" as a title almost always connotes the option of having sex without catching any disease.

For me, the more insidious problem is the fact alluded to my my friend GE about the absence of sex education at any level in the Philippines which means that getting pregnant is an unplanned accident that happens with unfortunate regularity. Filipino parents are conservative and reluctant to discuss sex with their kids. I have had numerous discussions on this very topic with a number of mixed secondary school classes (girls and boys) and their levels of ignorance are mind-boggling. For example: virgins cannot get pregnant the first time they have sex; you will get very sick if you have sex during menstruation; you will get cancer of the mouth if you have oral sex (boys and girls) etc etc.

Very few filipinas have even a basic idea about their menstrual cycle; when they are most fertile; how they can get pregnant; how the contraceptive pill works; what a condom is and does etc etc. The boys are equally ignorant and should also be included as an integral part of the sex education mission so that they understand what damage they can do by reckless sex with random girls.

My point is that for those guys who have NOT been vasectomised and who eschew the use of condoms with their filipina partners are placing way too much responsibility onto the uneducated filipina to ensure she doesn't get pregnant. I suspect that many of you have unknowingly fathered kids throughout the Philippines. This may not matter to many (most) guys, but it would worry me. Fortunately, I use condoms despite being vasectomised, so my comments are moot, but it wouldn't hurt to quiz the girl before you leave the bar about her reproductive status (are you on the pill? If we don't use a condom how will you prevent yourself from getting pregnant? Etc) If she has no idea what you are talking about then you are playing Russian roulette with her.

I have heard guys say "Well it's not my responsibility; it's her problem".

Sad but I have heard it said more than once or twice.

now that the subject of pregnancy has been raised, the following is a repost from a discussion in the ac forum. i would also note that not cumming inside a sex worker not only reduces the risk of pregnancy, but also of her getting stds, sexually transmitted diseases.

condoms do not prevent pregnancy. in fact as regards bc (birth control)"some authors suggest that actual effectiveness of withdrawal could be similar to effectiveness of condoms".

". for couples that use coitus interruptus correctly at every act of intercourse, the failure rate is 4% per year. the condom has a perfect-use failure rate of 2%", so when so used there is little difference between the two methods of bc. moreover:

". it has been suggested that the pre-ejaculate ("cowper's fluid") emitted by the penis prior to ejaculation normally contains spermatozoa (sperm cells) , which would compromise the effectiveness of the method. [10][11] however, several small studies[12][13][14][15] have failed to find any viable sperm in the fluid. while no large conclusive studies have been done, it is now believed the primary cause of method (correct-use) failure is the pre-ejaculate fluid picking up sperm from a previous ejaculation. [16] for this reason, it is recommended that the male partner [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord111][CodeWord111][/url] between ejaculations, to clear the urethra of sperm, and wash any ejaculate from objects that might come near the woman's vulva", such as hands and penis.

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/coitus_interruptus[/url]

[QUOTE=Manny51;1382651]i." Think twice before posting such condescending comments.[/QUOTE]Ignore his prattles. Theres not much that he ever says thats worth reading. Place him on Ignore as I have done and the world is a way better place.

[quote=chocha monger;1382626]i suspect these high anxiety mongers would wrap themselves in a full body condom before banging many of those sweet filipina beavers if they ever took a trip to their slums to see where they eat, sleep, shit and bathe. frankly, a good case of the claps or aids is the least of their worries.[/quote]yeah great. i've done extreme sports and i tell you there is nothing that gets the adrenaline pumping more than hard shagging a tondo street girl taken from slummy carriedo. in between depositing a load down her probably tb infected throat and pounding her with god knows what infected snatch and ass, you can help her pick her scabs! caring is sharing. the bigger the risk, the bigger the thrill. those nanny-mongers who expect a sex trip to a third world country, such as our beloved philippines, to be totally risk free would be better off staying at home with an asian street meat dvd and a box of kleenex. like sb aka whimpering pussy does.

p. s don't do it anymore but i survived several carriedo trips and wild encounters with 500 pesos street ho's completely unrep001hed. call me lucky but they were the one of the highlights of my rather extensive manila mongering experiences.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1382681]Ignore his prattles. Theres not much that he ever says thats worth reading. Place him on Ignore as I have done and the world is a way better place.[/QUOTE]Actually, FreebieMan would be on my ignore list if not for the fact he is a great source of humor. Keep up the good work Freebie. Your fantasy posts of banging five, six or even seven beavers a day keeps me in stitches.

[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1382686]Yeah great. I've done extreme sports and I tell you there is nothing that gets the adrenaline pumping more than hard shagging a Tondo street girl taken from slummy Carriedo. I survived several Carriedo trips and wild encounters with 500 pesos street ho's.[/QUOTE]LOL. Like dawg in heat. Dreamy memory from undergrad, walking through campus after bartime said hello to a chica I'd never met we spoke few words kissed then walked 50 feet to the Pharm bldg and boinked there in the bushes. I don't even remember bidding each other farewell.

Street sex and too easy cheap girls AMPs the feeling their function in life taking care of Unit in exclusivity. God says "in heat", limbic system commands do anything smells estrogenic pheromones, superego, no. Wait. EASY GIRL. Go Time. Fav p4p here at home: SW for BJ behind the wheel; extra tip if she gets me to cop while driving. Cheap and easy. What a rush.

Ps; nice pic but Gold Star for daily funnies, lmao

[Quote=Screaming Beaver]Actually, FreebieMan would be on my ignore list if not for the fact he is a great source of humor. Keep up the good work Freebie. Your fantasy posts of banging five, six or even seven beavers a day keeps me in stitches.[/Quote]Agreed. Le petit clown writes some amusing posts about banging 7 young beavers multiple times daily despite being splayed and neutered. I missed his yarns during my absence.

[QUOTE=Screaming Beaver;1382855]Actually, FreebieMan would be on my ignore list if not for the fact he is a great source of humor. Keep up the good work Freebie. Your fantasy posts of banging five, six or even seven beavers a day keeps me in stitches.[/QUOTE]Its funny how whenever you post, the other " ignored" one (ignore and ignorant are related words?) CM always appear.

Like a regular Pinky and Perky, or Tom and Jerry or Toothless Twosome. Always a double act you and your brother.

No matter. Would be glad to meet you one fine day and show you the pics. You can even bring along your little sidekick.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1382664]"Safe sex" as a title almost always connotes the option of having sex without catching any disease.

For me, the more insidious problem is the fact alluded to my my friend GE about the absence of sex education at any level in the Philippines which means that getting pregnant is an unplanned accident that happens with unfortunate regularity. Filipino parents are conservative and reluctant to discuss sex with their kids. I have had numerous discussions on this very topic with a number of mixed secondary school classes (girls and boys) and their levels of ignorance are mind-boggling. For example: virgins cannot get pregnant the first time they have sex; you will get very sick if you have sex during menstruation; you will get cancer of the mouth if you have oral sex (boys and girls) etc etc.

Very few filipinas have even a basic idea about their menstrual cycle; when they are most fertile; how they can get pregnant; how the contraceptive pill works; what a condom is and does etc etc. The boys are equally ignorant and should also be included as an integral part of the sex education mission so that they understand what damage they can do by reckless sex with random girls.

My point is that for those guys who have NOT been vasectomised and who eschew the use of condoms with their filipina partners are placing way too much responsibility onto the uneducated filipina to ensure she doesn't get pregnant. I suspect that many of you have unknowingly fathered kids throughout the Philippines. This may not matter to many (most) guys, but it would worry me. Fortunately, I use condoms despite being vasectomised, so my comments are moot, but it wouldn't hurt to quiz the girl before you leave the bar about her reproductive status (are you on the pill? If we don't use a condom how will you prevent yourself from getting pregnant? Etc) If she has no idea what you are talking about then you are playing Russian roulette with her.

I have heard guys say "Well it's not my responsibility; it's her problem".

Sad but I have heard it said more than once or twice.[/QUOTE]I agree. I got mine many years ago and want no more kids. But if you have not and are a sex addict like me, you can get vasectomized, and freeze your sperm for future babies if you want.

[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1384936]I agree. I got mine many years ago and want no more kids. But if you have not and are a sex addict like me, you can get vasectomized, and freeze your sperm for future babies if you want.[/QUOTE]Thanks for bring up the topic: safe sex is about avoiding STDs and unplanned pregnancies. I think it is archaic to take the attitude,"it's her problem." She doesn't get pregnant without your participation and we all know the Philippines is predominantly a Roman Catholic country. No surprise Filipinos know little about sex other than what gets stuck where. But we have the knowledge and should use it wisely and be considerate.

I wish to underscore Luvpuss' comment about vasectomies. I had mine in my mid-30's after my second child was born. One of the best decisions I ever made. Never had to worry. Condoms were only necessary if I was worried about an STD. In my forties I was going through a divorce and having an affair with a much younger wench. Well surprise, surprise one day she tells me she's pregnant and I'm the father. Fuck off I said. When I was in my mid-50's I was in a relationship with a great lady in her late 30's. She was a physician, making great money in her specialty, very independent and a great lady. She thought it was a shame I had a vasectomy, otherwise she wanted to have a baby with me. Thought the fetus would get a double dose of great genes (which I took as a compliment). A year later we stopped seeing each other. One of the things that want through my mind at the time was how much more complicated it would be if we had an infant to take into consideration. A problem I didn't want to deal with as a man approaching 60. Guys, unless you really want children and are prepared to be an involved father, get a vasectomy.

It's a simple out-patient procedure; extremely low risk of complications; done under a general; minimal discomfort if any after the procedure; your quickly back in business. And as Luvpuss points out, if you want to cover your bases, just make a deposit at a sperm bank.

[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1384936]I agree. I got mine many years ago and want no more kids. But if you have not and are a sex addict like me, you can get vasectomized, and freeze your sperm for future babies if you want.[/QUOTE]Vasectomies may also be reversed with good results, approaching 90%+ return of sperm within 3 years and dropping down near 70% following 10-15 years post vas.

[QUOTE=Pete Benetar;1384955]Vasectomies may also be reversed with good results, approaching 90%+ return of sperm within 3 years and dropping down near 70% following 10-15 years post vas.[/QUOTE]Yes, the MD girlfriend I mentioned in my previous post and I discussed this. After she did her research, she ruled it out for me (I was 20+ years post op) and this was about 7 years ago. I had a friend many years ago who had one then lost one of his children, he had it successfully reversed and that was thirty years ago. Regardless, my advice, don't have it done if you have any intention of having it reversed in the future.

[QUOTE=Pete Benetar;1384955]Vasectomies may also be reversed with good results, approaching 90%+ return of sperm within 3 years and dropping down near 70% following 10-15 years post vas.[/QUOTE]That may be true nowadays but back when I had my vasectomy (1990) they cut a piece out of the vas and burned up the ends so that it couldn't accidentally "re-connect". None of the guys in my age circle with vasectomies have had success with reversal operations.

I understand that nowadays they cut and put a small cap over each end and so reversal is more straightforward but I do not know anyone who had had a successful reversal, despite Pete B's no doubt well-researched statistics quoted above.

I had to undergo a quite thorough Q & A session before I had the operation, and the doctor insisted my (now ex)-wife accompany me so that he was reassured that we were both in agreement. We had a medical reason (on her side) for having the op so it proceeded. If you go in for a vasectomy with no good reason other than that "you want to fuck your brains out with many different women and don't want them to get pregnant" then it is possible only "shonky" doctors will do it (for the fee of course). If you go in for a vasectomy and immediately start talking about a possible need to have it reversed in the future you may find that a doctor will want to know if you really do want to have the operation. Of course, having a vasectomy may also leave one more prepared to indulge in bareback sex which has its own set of additional risks but that's another topic (discussed endlessly on most chat boards).

BTW, filipinos (men and women) have this false impression that a vasectomy changes your masculinity (like having your balls removed). When I told a woman recently that I was "safe" because I was vasectomised she said "Oh, so we cannot have sex then. Vasectomy makes you impotent". I needed to disabuse her that there is a difference between "impotent" as in not having sperm and erectile dysfunction which means not getting hard. After a practical session she eventually understood the difference, but so many people, and not only in the Philippines, do not understand that it has no effect on the libido. In fact, for me, it increased it. Just sayin.....

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1384965]That may be true nowadays but back when I had my vasectomy (1990) they cut a piece out of the vas and burned up the ends so that it couldn't accidentally "re-connect". None of the guys in my age circle with vasectomies have had success with reversal operations.

I understand that nowadays they cut and put a small cap over each end and so reversal is more straightforward but I do not know anyone who had had a successful reversal, despite Pete B's no doubt well-researched statistics quoted above.

When I told a woman recently that I was "safe" because I was vasectomised she said "Oh, so we cannot have sex then.[/QUOTE]This makes sense. As I said in a previous post I knew a guy in the 80's who had a successful reversal. He said it worked and his wife subsequently got pregnant again. Who knows, maybe a cover story. The urologist who did mine, by the way no shit his name was Paul Hacker and claimed to have a brother named Peter; at any rate he cut out a segment and tied the loose ends. And as I also mentioned in the previous post my MD girlfriend told me not bother with trying to have it reversed. Like I said earlier, only do it if you never plan to have it reversed.

Did the young lady think you had been castrated and had fake balls inserted? Know a guy who had testicular cancer who's walking around with fake balls.

All of this reminds me of a funny cartoon. Dog is in the back seat of a car pulling out of the drive way. Dog's head is hanging out the rear window. Dog says to his next door beagle buddy,"Hey Ralph, guess what! They're taking me to get tutored.". Well I thought it was funny.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt;1384965]BTW, filipinos (men and women) have this false impression that a vasectomy changes your masculinity (like having your balls removed). When I told a woman recently that I was "safe" because I was vasectomised she said "Oh, so we cannot have sex then.[/QUOTE]Hey Red, those numbers are for sure all over the place and are most representative of experienced urologists who are trained in microsurgery and experienced at that, which is the kind of surgeon you would want. There are also different numbers for technical success (the numbers I gave, which is simply sperm getting back through the vas deferens and into the spooge) and clinical or pregnancy success, which is the % of couples who are able to get pregnant following vas reversal. Pregnancy rates are invariably going to be lower not just because there will invariably be lower sperm counts post reversal (compared to younger days or normal population) but also at least some failures due to the woman's reproductive tract. But most trials show over 50% pregnancy success if reversed earlier than 10 years post the vasectomy.

The modern vas techniques I bet do enhance success of reversal, but an experienced microsurgeon should be able to cut away the scarred tube and re-ligate. They may only need to fix the vas end to end, but if the vas is blocked most ways, then the surgeon has to do an anatomosis between an open stretch of the tube into the epidydimis itself, which is small stretch of coiled tubing that matures the sperm on top of the testicle. That also reduces technical success.

All this to say there are a lot of variables that complicate the end goal of pregnancy success. I look at technical success more because at that point I know the guy is at least then on live fire. The best thing a user can do is make sure the surgeon has trained / is certified in microsurgery and how many reversals the surgeon has done.

[QUOTE=Pete Benetar; 1384988]<<<<< SNIP (rather a good term given the topic (LOL)

The best thing a user can do is make sure the surgeon has trained / is certified in microsurgery and how many reversals the surgeon has done.[/QUOTE]

The very BEST thing is not to get cut if you think you will need a reversal in the future.

The obvious candidates are the "older" guys who suddenly discover the Philippines with its abundance of young women who want a mestizo baby and who do not have the will-power / discipline / balls (whatever the word is) to just say to her "let's be friends but if you want a baby then I am NOT your guy".

I make this clear to any woman who hits on me in chat or anywhere else and talks about having a "loving family". I have one at the moment who is sexy as hell and whose profile is dripping with "Brady Bunch" scenarios.

I told her upfront before we even met about no family and no babies. It didn't faze her at all. She was still good to go, and obviously realised that all that sentimental stuff could come later after she had some fun with the foreigner.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt;1385022]I told her upfront before we even met about no family and no babies. It didn't faze her at all. She was still good to go, and obviously realised that all that sentimental stuff could come later after she had some fun with the foreigner.[/QUOTE]IME, the whole issue of baby and family become a very distant objective when even the slightest of possibilities of traveling to a developed country (or at least the US) is entertained. Though for short term engagements it's never been a serious source of discussion. I'm always vague and nebulous to any prospect in part because it's genuine. I don't want kids now but that might change depending on if I really care that much to make her happier than she is now (wife grew up in a central african village; moving to an affluent, very well devoloped metro area in US, she's still very happy as is 18 months later). But there are several alternatives to having a child with her (if reversal or frozen sperm aren't options). Adoption or artificial insemination or I've got an I'd twin too, etc, etc.

I don't feel an iota of guilt; my present girl has made it clear she is interested in having children eventually. Several years from now if I decide that's not going to happen, we may part ways and in that case I am fully confident both the lass and myself will be better off; me with some very good years of companionship and she with a new life and citizenship here.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1385022]The very BEST thing is not to get cut if you think you will need a reversal in the future.

The obvious candidates are the "older" guys who suddenly discover the Philippines with its abundance of young women who want a mestizo baby and who do not have the will-power / discipline / balls (whatever the word is) to just say to her "let's be friends but if you want a baby then I am NOT your guy".

I make this clear to any woman who hits on me in chat or anywhere else and talks about having a "loving family". I have one at the moment who is sexy as hell and whose profile is dripping with "Brady Bunch" scenarios.

I told her upfront before we even met about no family and no babies. It didn't faze her at all. She was still good to go, and obviously realised that all that sentimental stuff could come later after she had some fun with the foreigner.[/QUOTE]Hear, hear! Don't get cut unless you are 100% sure you're never going to want to reverse it. Not 99. 999% sure. 100% sure.

Having said that. When I got cut, it was one of the best decisions I ever made. It's never gotten in the way of any of my relationships. I didn't breakup with the girlfriend who wanted a baby with me over that; and since then she has not had a child. I've had a number of young girlfriends over the years who said they loved the fact that I didn't have to use a condom and they didn't have to worry about getting pregnant. Even though many were on the pill they said they liked the fact that preventing a pregnancy was not entirely up to them and they could be absolutely certain it would not happen. After all, even the pill is not 100% effective. Almost, but not quite. They were adamant that it made the sex much more enjoyable for them, and more willing to try new things I might add. Yes, in addition to not having to worry about getting pregnant, bareback feels better for the woman too! One lady told me fucking with a condom was like shaking hands wearing a glove.

If you're a monger and inclined to ride bareback, personally I think it is irresponsible unless you've had a vasectomy. If you want to risk contracting an STD, that's your business so long as you take care of it promptly and don't spread it around. Of course I realize you may have sex with other women before the symptoms appear, so I take that back, but this string of posts is about vasectomies and unplanned pregnancies, so I'll try to stick to the topic. The point is most STD can be treated and cured. Terminating a pregnancy is another matter. Sure she can get an abortion, but realistically how likely is that in the Philippines?

[QUOTE=Pete Benetar;1385035]I don't feel an iota of guilt; my present girl has made it clear she is interested in having children eventually. Several years from now if I decide that's not going to happen, we may part ways and in that case I am fully confident both the lass and myself will be better off; me with some very good years of companionship and she with a new life and citizenship here.[/QUOTE]Good strategy Pete. No need for any guilt at all.

I actually wasn't directing my general comments about "having babies" to you in particular (just so it's clear). I was talking about the "generic" older guys who find places like the Philippines later in life.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt;1384965]BTW, filipinos (men and women) have this false impression that a vasectomy changes your masculinity (like having your balls removed). When I told a woman recently that I was "safe" because I was vasectomised she said "Oh, so we cannot have sex then. Vasectomy makes you impotent". I needed to disabuse her that there is a difference between "impotent" as in not having sperm and erectile dysfunction which means not getting hard. After a practical session she eventually understood the difference, but so many people, and not only in the Philippines, do not understand that it has no effect on the libido. In fact, for me, it increased it. Just sayin.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Paul Kausch;1384978]Did the young lady think you had been castrated and had fake balls inserted?[/QUOTE]Along the same lines, I've had several filipinas express similar thoughts, either because of the vasectomy, or just my age."You have vasectmee you dick not get hard." I hope she was pleasantly surprised at her misinformation. Most recently was a provincial gal in mindanao, who was unaware of my vas. While in the throws of banging she asked me not to cum in her poosy: "I don't want a pregnant." I was too busy to explain a vasectomy and was not sure she even knew what that was. So I pulled out and came a ton across the roof of her mouth, upper lip, and across her nose (she swallowed without blinking). Later she said: "Can I ask? Next time sex you cum my poosy. I want baby to you." Wait. Wait. You said before you DIDN'T want a baby."Yes I said that. But I am wrong. I'm thinking you too old to have a sex. I'm thinking you cannot have good feenish. But you feenish strong I can taste its big to me." She went on to explain that after seeing pics of my kids, she was sure our baby would be a boy, and "have a blue eye." Somehow in the few hours between the time we f*cked and the time we had this last conversation, she had worked a fantasy of our child into her mind, and thought the amount of my ejaculate measured my child-making potency. How the f*ck could she be THIS hot, and THIS misinformed? She's provincial filipina, that's how.

I had to laugh when I read WC's story about vasectomy and potency, etc. Couple of things I have heard from filipinas:

-When they get fucked a man puts "air" into their bellies so if their bellies seem bigger after fucking, its the man's fault for putting air in there. My solution was to tell her that I can let the air out by squeezing her belly button (now this girl was a more educated one from manilla)

-Another story. One said I "took her ass" because I fucked her doggy style. In the pussy. Tried to explain that was not anal sex. But she was insistent. We meet in Singapore in March. So may try to introduce her to real anal sex hehehe.

-I have been successful in teaching a few of them how to use continuous oral contraceptives (so they don't get their menstrual period, which most of them think is dangerous, but I have worked on convincing them this is OK). So they use OCs and since I'm not vas safe, I can still cum in them.

GG

[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1385185]Later she said: "Can I ask? Next time sex you cum my poosy. I want baby to you.".[/QUOTE]I virtually never use a cover and don't tell them I'm vasectomized either and cannot recall any of these poor underdeveloped world girls asking me NOT to cum in them. My thoroughly ego and ethnocentric mantra is they ALL want to be seeded by some affluent responsible "1st World" citizen. There was a day I did indeed dream of seeding every damn one of them. Days long gone, LOL. Not condoning irresponsible fathering by any means, etc, just IMO.

[QUOTE=Pete Benetar;1385200]My thoroughly ego and ethnocentric mantra is they ALL want to be seeded by some affluent responsible "1st World" citizen. There was a day I did indeed dream of seeding every damn one of them. Days long gone, LOL.[/QUOTE]I still have "the dream" haha.

This was being discussed in the General thread though seems to belong here:

[QUOTE=Paul Kausch; 1385284]My issue is 12 cost $39, plus S&H. I might spend that much if they are worth it. But as I've said in other posts I'm toying with the idea of going bareback whenever possible. I have no great fear of contracting an STD (except for HIV / AIDS. Which I know is less likely) , but I do worry about spreading it around if I do catch something. My mongering tends to be feast and famine. I might go for a month with nothing because I'm up in the Andes working on a project and there's nothing worth fucking around; then I'll be in a city with a good mongering scene for two weeks where I'll fuck a dozen or more different women. At least I don't have to worry about getting the girl pregnant, but I'll read about withdrawal as a method of reducing the risk of spreading an infection. I always thought the pre-ejaculatory fluids could transmit an STD.

Thanks again guys, you're a big help![/QUOTE]Pre cum can carry HIV, but with a load of cum added would be more risky for the girl recieving it into her bare pussy, of course. From what I've read, how dangerous pre cum is depends on the guy. Some guys have lots of precum and others have none. IME I don't have a lot & usually know when it is coming out, so can stop intercourse to clean myself before it touches her or alert her to clean herself.

I get myself tested regularly for STIs, especially for HIV, which serves to protect my partners in a similar degree to condom use.

My favorite lube is virgin coconut oil with lauric acid, which serves as a barrier against STIs & seems to also kill them, besides having a pleasant smell & taste & being pussy (though not condom) friendly:

"Lauric acid has been claimed to have antimicrobial properties. [5][6][7][8]"

I guess this can be purchased in the PI or brought in one's luggage when going there.

[QUOTE=Geneva Guy; 1385196]I had to laugh when I read WC's story about vasectomy and potency, etc. Couple of things I have heard from filipinas:

-When they get fucked a man puts "air" into their bellies so if their bellies seem bigger after fucking, its the man's fault for putting air in there. My solution was to tell her that I can let the air out by squeezing her belly button (now this girl was a more educated one from manilla)

GG[/QUOTE]Hilarious! I don't think that I could have said that with a straight face. If this represents the level of sex education in the community, then no wonder stuff is spreading like wildfire.

[QUOTE=Geneva Guy;1385196]-When they get fucked a man puts "air" into their bellies so if their bellies seem bigger after fucking, its the man's fault for putting air in there. My solution was to tell her that I can let the air out by squeezing her belly button (now this girl was a more educated one from manilla)[/QUOTE]Little Johnny comes into the bedroom to find Mummy bouncing up and down on top of Daddy.

He turns and goes back to his room but Mummy saw him and was embarrassed that he might get the wrong idea so she jumped off and went to Johnny's room.

" You know how Daddy has such a big belly. It is full of air and I was just bouncing up and down on it to try to get the air to go down out of it".

Little Johnny replied "Well you are wasting your time because as soon as you go to work Mrs Brown from the house next door comes straight in and blows it back up again"

Paddy's wife goes to the doctors and says that she is pregnant. Doctor examines her and tells her she is not pregnant but it is only trapped air.

The following day she is back 'Doctor, doctor, I'm pregnant'. He examines her again and again tells her it is only wind.

The next day Paddy himself marches into the the doctors office, whips out his cock and slams it onto the desk in front of the startled doctor and says 'Bejesus doc, what do you think this is, a fucking bicycle pump! '

[QUOTE=Geneva Guy; 1385196]I had to laugh when I read WC's story about vasectomy and potency, etc. Couple of things I have heard from filipinas:

-When they get fucked a man puts "air" into their bellies so if their bellies seem bigger after fucking, its the man's fault for putting air in there. My solution was to tell her that I can let the air out by squeezing her belly button (now this girl was a more educated one from manilla) [/QUOTE]Sounds like the medical grad girl I was going out with. Her name wouldn't be starting with a D by any chance? LOL.

[QUOTE]-I have been successful in teaching a few of them how to use continuous oral contraceptives (so they don't get their menstrual period, which most of them think is dangerous, but I have worked on convincing them this is OK). So they use OCs and since I'm not vas safe, I can still cum in them.

GG[/QUOTE]For OC, I have had mixed results, one too many time, they mix up or 'save the tablets'. In case they felt my cum was stronger and needed double dose. I gave up. Just buy and give and let them manage it anyway they want. Is my current policy!

The following is an article I found today.

[quote](Reuters). The USA Food and Drug Administration warned on Tuesday that the popular antibiotic azithromycin, sold as Zithromax (Z-Pak) , can cause a potentially fatal irregular heart rhythm in some patients.

The agency said the move follows its review of a study by medical researchers as well as a company study assessing the drug's potential for causing abnormal changes in the electrical activity of the heart.

Last May, a study in the New England Journal of Medicine compared the risk of cardiovascular death in patients who took Zithromax with those who took several other antibiotics, including amoxicillin. It found that patients who took Zithromax, made by Pfizer Inc, had higher rates of fatal heart rhythms.

Generic versions of Zithromax are also available.

In its warning, the FDA said the drug can alter the electrical activity of the heart, which may lead to a potentially fatal heart rhythm known as prolonged QT interval, in which the timing of the heart's contractions becomes irregular.

The FDA said doctors should use caution when giving the antibiotic to patients known to have this condition or who have certain risk factors. The at-risk group includes people with low levels of potassium or magnesium, a slower-than-normal heart rate, or people who take certain drugs used to treat abnormal heart rhythms, or arrhythmias. The drug could also cause problems in people with torsades de pointes. A specific, rare heart rhythm abnormality.

The FDA noted that other drugs in the same class as azithromycin known as macrolides also have the potential for causing QT prolongation, as do non-macrolide antibiotics, such as fluoroquinolones, and doctors need to consider all of these risks when choosing an antibiotic.

The FDA said it has updated the drug's labels with information about the risk of QT interval prolongation and torsades de pointes.

Pfizer stressed in an emailed statement that most patients will not be affected by this label change, and that other antibiotics in the same class have similar risks.

"Patients who are currently prescribed Zithromax should talk to their doctors or healthcare providers if they have questions regarding their treatment," the company said.

Zithromax, or Zmax, is a popular choice because patients can take fewer doses over a shorter period than many other antibiotics. USA sales of the drug in 2011 exceeded $450 million, according to IMS Health.

"Zithromax has had a well-established benefit risk profile for more than 20 years and continues to be an effective treatment option for patients all over the globe suffering from many types of bacterial infections," Pfizer said in the statement.

Shares of Pfizer were down nearly 1 percent at $27. 07 in late trading on the New York Stock Exchange.

(Reporting by Caroline Humer in New York and Julie Steenhuysen in Chicago; editing by Gerald E. McCormick, Matthew Lewis and Dan Grebler)[/quote]

What's the best and quickest and least dramatic way to get checked for STD's here in PH specifically Manila? The is more of a preemptive question because I'd like to go home knowing I am "clean".

[QUOTE=IM Punter;1489948]What's the best and quickest and least dramatic way to get checked for STD's here in PH specifically Manila? The is more of a preemptive question because I'd like to go home knowing I am "clean".[/QUOTE]Personally I would go to the A&E of one of the main hospitals nearest to the Oxford Suites (Makati Doctors or Makati Medical. I think but I stand to be corrected) and ask them for a test if you are worried and don't see any unusual unusual discharge for your todger (which is a bit of a giveaway about STD IMHO).

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger;1489964]Personally I would go to the A&E of one of the main hospitals nearest to the Oxford Suites (Makati Doctors or Makati Medical. I think but I stand to be corrected) and ask them for a test if you are worried and don't see any unusual unusual discharge for your todger (which is a bit of a giveaway about STD IMHO).[/QUOTE]Makati Med (MM) is near Ayala Ave and Buendia (aka Gil Puyat). Dr. Echiverri in room 155 is the infectious diseases specialist and a nice lady. Tests for HIV, gonorrhea, chlamydia, syphilis, and herpes II (two tests) will run approx. P15000. Most of the test results are ready by the next day except for one of them (herpes, I recall) which takes three days. If MM is too far or too expensive you may want to check out the Research Institute for Tropical Medicine (RITM) in Malate. I believe the HIV test there is free if you tell 'them you're gay.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;1385185]." I was too busy to explain a vasectomy and was not sure she even knew what that was. So I pulled out and came a ton across the roof of her mouth, upper lip, and across her nose (she swallowed without blinking). Later she said: "Can I ask? Next time sex you cum my poosy. I want baby to you." Wait. Wait. You said before you DIDN'T want a baby."Yes I said that. But I am wrong. I'm thinking you too old to have a sex. I'm thinking you cannot have good feenish. But you feenish strong I can taste its big to me." She went on to explain that after seeing pics of my kids, she was sure our baby would be a boy, and "have a blue eye." Somehow in the few hours between the time we f*cked and the time we had this last conversation, she had worked a fantasy of our child into her mind, and thought the amount of my ejaculate measured my child-making potency. How the f*ck could she be THIS hot, and THIS misinformed? She's provincial filipina, that's how.[/QUOTE]Send you thankyou note to the all the previous Popes. The current one has generously donated US$ 150, 000 of the Vaticans money for disaster solutions. About the cost of one of his gold threaded robes. Mind, they have also spent US$ 2. 2 billion on payments to abuse victims so its all relative.

[QUOTE=Fifty Pesos; 1490925]MANILA—The number of HIV cases in the Philippines is rising at a 'fast and furious' rate, with the rise concentrated among males who have sex with males and people who inject illegal drugs or narcotics, according to the executive director of the Philippine National AIDS Council.

[url]http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/476453/one-filipino-gets-hiv-virus-every-1-5-hours-group-says[/url][/QUOTE]As much as I am tempted to visit the PI, the more that I read of STDs there, it just scares me.

[QUOTE=Manny51;1496274]As much as I am tempted to visit the PI, the more that I read of STDs there, it just scares me.[/QUOTE]You're right. You had better just stay away. Avoid it like the plague.

[QUOTE=Manny51;1496274]As much as I am tempted to visit the PI, the more that I read of STDs there, it just scares me.[/QUOTE]It is very bad here I agree and the newspaper article is the tip of the iceberg

Leave the Philippines to the professionals and those with tungsten tipped condoms. Best you stay away as this is not the place for the faint hearted as many contributors here will advise.

[QUOTE=David_33;1496344]You're right. You had better just stay away. Avoid it like the plague.[/QUOTE]Good advice. In addition I would add this is a monger's forum. Do not post here again if you are not a hobbyist. In fact avoid all women to be safe. STD even here in USA among college girls are high one study says.

Better become a celibate monk high in the Himalayas.

[QUOTE=AussieDoug; 1376635]Cast your mind back to the TV series Starsky & Hutch, the curly haired boffin was named Paul Michael Glasser. Now after he finished jumping over car hoods he mmet and married a like minded sould in Hollywood and they had two daughters. What he did not know was that she had contracted HIV in her younger days by intravenous drug usage.

She was an AIDs activist. She got AIDs by a blood transfusion during the birth of her first child. Wow, such misinformation and what's with the faggot comments. Small minded. I know this is an old post but couldn't help myself.

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1496394]It is very bad here I agree and the newspaper article is the tip of the iceberg

Leave the Philippines to the professionals and those with tungsten tipped condoms. Best you stay away as this is not the place for the faint hearted as many contributors here will advise.[/QUOTE]You are such a man.

[QUOTE=Manny51;1496468]You are such a man.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the compliments Manny.

It is what the girls say also but in a very different context LOL.

Sammon. You know a celibate monk?

[QUOTE=Sammon; 1496413]Good advice. In addition I would add this is a monger's forum. Do not post here again if you are not a hobbyist. In fact avoid all women to be safe. STD even here in USA among college girls are high one study says.

Better become a celibate monk high in the Himalayas.[/QUOTE]Wasn't this a "Safe sex" forum? Why are you hanging out here, trolling on people with legitimate interest in the subject?

The only guys that talk with so much bravado about STDS are the guys that already have them. Their bravery is just disguised resignation to their diseased state. We see right through you bro. Live with that.

[QUOTE=Fifty Pesos; 1490925]MANILA—The number of HIV cases in the Philippines is rising at a 'fast and furious' rate, with the rise concentrated among males who have sex with males and people who inject illegal drugs or narcotics, according to the executive director of the Philippine National AIDS Council.

[url]http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/476453/one-filipino-gets-hiv-virus-every-1-5-hours-group-says[/url][/QUOTE]I'm feeling kind of safe, I only have sex with females and I don't do drugs.

[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1376980]If in 10 years he had sex with his HIV positive wife once a week that's about 500 times. Many married guys don't get that much, but let's go with it. Assuming he's not immune, and the chance of infection from her is 1 in 1000 times, he had roughly a 50 percent chance of being infected. So basicly a coin flip, and hardly an example that would support the theory that HIV is extremely hard to transmit via normal heterosexual penile to vaginal sex.

OTOH I've seen several claims, that went to court, of a HIV positive guy infecting a number of ladies within a few years. Though I can't say whether any anal sex was involved or not and evidently it's easier for the female to be infected via vaginal sex than the male. The following story was also in the news:

"A German national is believed to have deliberately infected more than 450 young women with the HIV / AIDS virus in Thailand's northern Chaiyaphum province."[/QUOTE]The Starsky and Hutch actor, Paul Michael Glaser, has a genetic mutation that has enabled him to stay healthy despite having been exposed to HIV. Additionally, his son whom is HIV positive, Jake, carries the same mutation. Specifically, their mutation is in the CCR5 (chemokine receptor type 5) gene. This mutation prevents HIV from infecting white blood cells, thus thwarting HIV from ravaging the immune system. However, most people do not carry this mutation, including bare-back riders. Therefore, the 'brave' bare-back riders that we see all too often in the photograph section will most likely have a CCR5 that will enable HIV to infect their white blood cells, thus enabling them to become immuno-compromised (I. E, develop AIDs).

Bottom line, of course bare-back feels the best, but if you choose to live in a fantasy world based on misinformation and therefore contribute to a global epidemic that is not yet over, have at it. As a man, whatever that means nowadays, may mean having screwed a lot of women, but as a man, take responsibility for trying to shape the future by screwing somewhat responsibly. Use a goddam condom.

[QUOTE=Fifty Pesos; 1513107][url]http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/553643/hiv-infections-still-on-the-rise-in-ph[/url]

MANILA, Philippines — Almost 400 new cases of infection with the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) , which could lead to the fatal Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome (AIDS) if not suppressed, were reported last November. 35 per cent more than in the same month last year, according to the Department of Health.[/QUOTE]That is about one case for every 258, 000 people in the Philippines. Sounds like an epidemic.

[QUOTE=Vvvvvvroom;1508678]Bottom line, of course bare-back feels the best, but if you choose to live in a fantasy world based on misinformation and therefore contribute to a global epidemic that is not yet over, have at it. As a man, whatever that means nowadays, may mean having screwed a lot of women, but as a man, take responsibility for trying to shape the future by screwing somewhat responsibly. Use a goddam condom.[/QUOTE]I use other methods instead of plastic baggies for safety during sex.

As detailed in the Siam safe sex thread and here:

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safe_sex[/url]

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safe_sex[/url]

Other precautions.

I was considering travel soon to PI, but after doing some travel research I see am I missing some vaccines. In particular I don't have a hepatitis be vaccine, and its a 3 dose series that takes 6 months. I also need a Typhoid vaccine, but I believe I have time for that.

I'm ok on most of my vaccines (MMR, Tetanus, polio, chicken pox, hepatitis A).

I'm just curious for people on this board, are you up on your vaccines when you go to PI?

[QUOTE=MrThomas;1576452]I'm just curious for people on this board, are you up on your vaccines when you go to PI?[/QUOTE]Yes. Or any other of the prime mongering destinations.

[QUOTE=MrThomas;1576452]I was considering travel soon to PI, but after doing some travel research I see am I missing some vaccines. In particular I don't have a hepatitis be vaccine, and its a 3 dose series that takes 6 months. I also need a Typhoid vaccine, but I believe I have time for that.

I'm ok on most of my vaccines (MMR, Tetanus, polio, chicken pox, hepatitis A).

I'm just curious for people on this board, are you up on your vaccines when you go to PI?[/QUOTE]Hepatitis B is something well worth having anyway. PI or not, its a serious disease that is easily preventable, so definitely get it. Check the CDC website. They have lists for what is endemic in certain areas and make recommendations. They are usually slightly overkill, so if you go for all their recommendations, you are definitely covered.

[QUOTE=Manny51;1581228]Hepatitis B is something well worth having anyway. PI or not, its a serious disease that is easily preventable, so definitely get it. Check the CDC website. They have lists for what is endemic in certain areas and make recommendations. They are usually slightly overkill, so if you go for all their recommendations, you are definitely covered.[/QUOTE]If you are hanging around in provincial areas then JE vaccine Japanese Encephalititis is advisable. Rabies prophylaxis is not practical but get to a hospital quickly if bitten by dog. Yeah, I've got them all & up to date.

AV.

Yes, I always get the vaccines recommended by the CDC and / or my local travel health clinic before traveling. I'm not a doctor and I may be wrong, but I think you get some level of protection after the first dose, so personally I'd get it even if there is not time for the entire three-dose series before your trip. Do follow up with the remaining doses after you return, and you'll be good for next trip.

[QUOTE=MrThomas;1576452]I was considering travel soon to PI, but after doing some travel research I see am I missing some vaccines. In particular I don't have a hepatitis be vaccine, and its a 3 dose series that takes 6 months. I also need a Typhoid vaccine, but I believe I have time for that.

I'm ok on most of my vaccines (MMR, Tetanus, polio, chicken pox, hepatitis A).

I'm just curious for people on this board, are you up on your vaccines when you go to PI?[/QUOTE]

The number of AIDS cases in the Philippines confirmed by testing appears to be relatively low although the number doubles every two years. However, recent reports indicate that the actual number of AIDS cases is much larger than that officially acknowledged by the government:

The 17,948 HIV-Aids cases from 1984 to 2014 is still far from one million, which represents one per cent of the country's population, statisticians said.

But existing data should be multiplied by 1,000 to find actual estimated cases since there is no law in the Philippines to make HIV-Aids testing mandatory, statisticians said, adding the true and actual estimated HIV-Aids cases in the Philippines from 1984 up to the first quarter of 2014 is 1. 794 million cases, a figure that represents almost two per cent of the country's population.

"The figure arrived at is really alarming," said one statistician who requested for anonymity because of the sensitivity of his revelations. .

Furthermore, the 498 new cases from January to March this year represents a 35 per cent increase for the same period in 2013. Annual HIV-Aids cases have doubled every two years since 2008, according to the data of the health department. [URL]http://gulfnews.com/news/world/philippines/government-raises-alarm-over-rise-in-hiv-aids-cases-in-philippines-1.1333086[/URL].

Health officials believe that the steady increase in HIV-Aids is driven in part by internet driven casual sex hookups allowing multiple partners. This is something mongers can relate to as everyone knows that DIA and Cupid cuties can rack up scores of cream pies from various corners of the globe within a couple months.

A lot of mongers take the position that the risk of catching AIDS in the Philippines is low because the disease affects mainly homosexual males and intravenous drug users. However, those familiar with the sexual predilections of Filipinos will find cause for concern. When foreigners hear the term "men who have sex with men" they assume it is strictly limited to the gay male or "bakla" community. They may be surprised to find out that Filipino men who fuck bakla are not considered gay. This means that "straight" Filipino men working as OFW in countries where sex with women is not readily available resort to fucking the baklas within their group for the duration of their overseas assignment. If these "straight" males assume the receiving role in homosexual activities purely for financial gain they are still not considered gay as "it was only for money. " Once they return home they resume sexual relations with Filipina women without their male gender identity ever coming into question. This creates a situation where HIV is readily transmitted from the gay male community into the sexually active female population. So, rising HIV rates in the men who have sex with men group in the Philippines is a forecast for increased HIV infection in Filipina women.

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;1591596]The 17,948 HIV-Aids cases from 1984 to 2014 is still far from one million, which represents one per cent of the country's population, statisticians said.

But existing data should be multiplied by 1,000 to find actual estimated cases since there is no law in the Philippines to make HIV-Aids testing mandatory, statisticians said, adding the true and actual estimated HIV-Aids cases in the Philippines from 1984 up to the first quarter of 2014 is 1. 794 million cases, a figure that represents almost two per cent of the country's population.

"The figure arrived at is really alarming," said one statistician who requested for anonymity because of the sensitivity of his revelations...[/QUOTE]What's alarming is the reason to up the number from under 18,000 to 2,000,000, a 1000 fold increase they say, because there is "no law making HIV testing mandatory". Imagine if every country did that? How many countries in the world have a law making HIV testing mandatory? Is there even one? Should all those that have no such law multiply the HIV cases by 1000 to get a proper estimate? Do they? Where is the justification in that? I wonder what organizations & agendas are behind that article, and would suggest it seems like a bunch of fear mongering BS.

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[QUOTE=ErrolFlynn;1671515][URL]http://time.com/3673991/pope-francis-contraception-philippines-asia-like-rabbits/[/URL][/QUOTE]And a few senators are shocked and insisting the pope was misquoted. Yes, those staunch anti RH no-do-gooders. Who are causing more misery to the poor while breeding their own dirty dozens.

Hello all,

Recently joined this forum and will post my conquests soon. I was treated for chlamydia after initially contracting that in Angeles. No burning, just testicular and lower back joint pain. I have since tested negative 3 x but notice a faint smell and white-ish / frothy pre cum that has a fishy smell. Just curious if anyone else has experienced this? I was given azythromycin and doxycyclene for 10 days. Doctors don't know what to do now. I was treated for trich also in case it was that. Smelly / foamy pre ejaculate remains.

Men are more at risk of developing mouth and throat cancer linked to oral sex, which can spread human papillomavirus (HPV), one of the most common sexually transmitted infections, which according to the USA Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) affects more than 90 percent and 80 percent of sexually active men and women, respectively.

A new study presented at the annual meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS) on Friday showed that men have twice the risk of getting HPV-related cancers compared with women. Middle-age white men, in particular are at high risk of developing the diseases compared to men of other races.

Gypsyamber the'Souza, from Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore, said that nearly two of three of these oral cancers in the USA And in many other western nations can be attributed to the HPV 16 strain infection and that the risk for oral HPV increases with the number of oral sex partners that men have.

The association appears to have the opposite effect in women. The number of sexual partners does not seem to affect women's risk for these cancers and that women who have more vaginal sex partners appear to have lower risk for oral HPV infection.

The'Souza explains that this could be because when women were first exposed to HPV vaginally, their body mounts an immune response that provides protection that prevents them from getting oral HPV infection. Men do not appear to have the same robust immune responses.

"Our research shows that once you become infected, men are less likely to clear this infection than women, further contributing for the cancer risk,"D'Souza said. The study was published in the Journal of the American Medical Association.

Although high-risk HPV infection may go away within one or two years and do not cause cancer, some cause cellular changes in the mouth and throat that if left untreated, may become cancerous. The symptoms may develop years after a person has had sexual contact with someone who is infected.

Other factors that can up risks of infection include smoking or chewing tobacco, a weakened immune system, and poor oral hygiene.

Most Americans have, at one point or another, removed hair from down there. But new research suggests that the grooming practice is linked to a major downside: an increased risk of STIs, or sexually transmitted infections.

[URL]http://time.com/4590329/grooming-pubic-hair-sex-sti/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Manny51;1581228]Hepatitis B is something well worth having anyway. PI or not, its a serious disease that is easily preventable, so definitely get it. Check the CDC website. They have lists for what is endemic in certain areas and make recommendations. They are usually slightly overkill, so if you go for all their recommendations, you are definitely covered.[/QUOTE]About after a month after dating a provincial girl she went missing for a few days and returned quite distraught. She had tested positive for Hep-b. As a 24 year old she is diagnosed as a chronic sufferer most likely having contracted it from her mother at child birth. She sent me the various test results. She was not looking for money from me.

In my case I had not previously completed A Hep-b vaccination course, I think I had one dose a few years ago.

I attended my GP and due to the amount of time passing since I may have been exposed there was no use for a prophylaxis response (bit late for that, although it may be successful in the case within a week of exposure). I had a Hep b test that day as well as starting the three dose Hep-be vaccination program. I had a further Hep-b test a month later. All clear on both tests.

My reading on Philippines and Hep be reveals close to a 25% infection rate across the nation. Given that many working girls come from provinces, I think they are more likely to have Hep b.

My advice, for people considering being in the Philippines, is to complete a Hep be course. About $60.

Happy days.

[QUOTE=BrainDrain;1971495]About after a month after dating a provincial girl she went missing for a few days and returned quite distraught. She had tested positive for Hep-b. As a 24 year old she is diagnosed as a chronic sufferer most likely having contracted it from her mother at child birth. She sent me the various test results. She was not looking for money from me.

In my case I had not previously completed A Hep-b vaccination course, I think I had one dose a few years ago.

I attended my GP and due to the amount of time passing since I may have been exposed there was no use for a prophylaxis response (bit late for that, although it may be successful in the case within a week of exposure). I had a Hep b test that day as well as starting the three dose Hep-be vaccination program. I had a further Hep-b test a month later. All clear on both tests.

My reading on Philippines and Hep be reveals close to a 25% infection rate across the nation. Given that many working girls come from provinces, I think they are more likely to have Hep b.

My advice, for people considering being in the Philippines, is to complete a Hep be course. About $60.

Happy days.[/QUOTE]FYI. I believe they have available now a combined hep "A" and hep "B" vaccine on the initial injection (shot). Also I believe the extra cost for vaccine for A is pretty inexpensive.

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;1971163]Most Americans have, at one point or another, removed hair from down there. But new research suggests that the grooming practice is linked to a major downside: an increased risk of STIs, or sexually transmitted infections.

[URL]http://time.com/4590329/grooming-pubic-hair-sex-sti/[/URL][/QUOTE]What is this BS?

The article clearly states "The results don't imply that shaving, waxing or trimming will increase a person's chance of getting an STI."

My theory is shaving will decrease the chances of getting crabs or lice!

I caught Hep A on my first road trip down to Mexico and Central America after college. It absolutely knocked me out for 5 days. I couldn't eat or drink anything without throwing it up. It was nauseatingly hard / painful to even stand up or raise my head off the pillow, let alone make it to the bathroom in time. LOL. I just laid in my hammock in Oaxaca going deeper and deeper into my dark fantasy dreams about my own death. It was like being on a really powerful and unpleasant hallucinatory death trip. In reality, my liver was under serious attack and was not functioning normally. This biological fact altered everything. On the 5th day I was finally able to eat a small sample box of plain Kellogg's cornflakes (no sugar) and I managed not to throw it up. A few hours later I drank my 1st glass of bottled water and kept it down. From then on I knew I was back on the road to recovery.

I should add that the reason I did not crawl onto the 1st plane back to the USA upon falling desperately ill was that I had the good luck of running into two resident Doctors on a BMW motor cycle holiday from the University of Chicago School of Medicine who just happened to be staying at my hotel. They took one look at me and said, "You have Hepatitis." I asked them what I should do about it and they said, do nothing. 555. Just rest and drink a lot of water, eat very plain food. No fried or fatty food. And just rest. They added that I could go home or go to a hospital if I wanted to, but it would't improve my condition any faster than just staying put in this nice colonial hotel. Naturally I was pretty incredulous at first, but these guys were straight shooters, REAL American doctors, and from my home town, so I trusted them and I stuck it out for 5 fevered hallucinogenic days in Oaxaca on a hammock.

After I could eat and drink again I began to feel better and the death fantasy dreams ended. On the 2nd day of eating again, I got off the hammock and said to my wingman, lets get the fuck out of Oaxaca, I hate this place, I want to get out of this fucking country. So we drove further south to a little village on the coast called La Ventanas or something. I recuperated there for another week just lying in the shade on a hammock, watching the local kids play around with deadly poisonous sea snakes that had washed up on the beach and eating fresh BBQ fish, boiled rice and water. I was now able to walk along the desert beach for a hundred meters or so without feeling weak or nauseous.

Finally 2 weeks after I got sick, we drove down to Guatemala where we rented a 2 bedroom house by the lake shore in Panajachel for $60 a month and I got better, a lot better. Then the partying began! So I have very fond memories of Guatemala, Nicaragua, and later Costa Rica where we ended up. The Ticas, especially, loved us and gave us their pussies for free. The whole trip lasted 6 months. But I never got over Mexico. To this day I don't like that country and I am not fond of it's people either.

So take it from me guys, Hep A is no joke! It was the sickest I have ever been in my life. It felt like I was dying. No Shit!

P.S. "Having a Hepatitis A infection provides lifelong immunity against Hepatitis A, but not against Hepatitis "B" or Hepatitis "C".
P.S.S. This all happened a long long time ago in the 70's. I love travelling and I have had some amazing good times back then and now. The above trip was one of my all time favorite trips. It was also my worst trip. Ha Ha.

So stay thirsty & stay well.

N.B.

Let me chime in here since I was involved in this area for some time.

-For Hep A, about 30% of the US population has had this (due to food contamination). You cannot get it from blood, it comes from people with Hep A handling food and contaminating the food (think taco bell outbreaks). If you traveled to areas with poor sanitation (Mexico, south america, etc). You probably have been exposed through the food (even if you eat in "restaurants" and now you are immune for life. There is a 2 dose vaccine, 100% effective to protect for life also. Adults that get Hep A can get pretty sick kids, they don't get sick from it, just a mild infection.

-HepB: If you are American and under 35-38 years of age, you probably got HepB vaccine at birth (3 doses over 6 months). No booster is needed for life (even when your protection in the blood decreases, if you are exposed, your immune system kicks in to kill the virus). If you are a fat, over age 50, male, smoker and get HepB vaccine now, your chances of responding to the standard 3 doses is about 65%. So if you haven't had the vaccine yet and fit that category, your doctor should check your antibody levels 1 month after the 3rd dose of vaccine and revaccinate if the levels are not greater than 10. Otherwise, if you get the 3 doses and don't fit those categories, then no need to check your antibody level after the 3rd dose. HepB is much more infectious than HIV. The amount of blood on the tip of a pin is enough to infect someone. Not all people who have HepB are infectious, if they don't have antigen detected in their blood, the chances of them being infectious are reduced, so that may be why the OP didn't get infected. In Asia, the incidence of HepB is relatively high (versus developed countries) and yes, most younger people get it from transmission from the mother. China in particular has a high incidence of HepB infection, but SE Asian countries (except Singapore and Thailand) are high also.

-HepC: No vaccine and none in the future (virus has many forms or types, hard to made vaccine to cover all). There are very good (and expensive) oral drug treatments for HepC. In general, it is transmitted via blood, sexual transmission is quite low (CDC data). This is a curable disease.

-HIV: No vaccine to date, effective treatments to control (but not cure) the disease. Risk of getting HIV from an infected person (heterosexual sex) is about 1/200 so its not zero, but its low. Less infectious than Hep be.

-HPV: A more common infection, the types that cause genital warts are NOT the types that cause cancer. I routinely had the girls I met long term get the vaccine (expensive, about $300 USD /3 doses), but I think its worth it. The vaccine is not approved for use in people over about age 26, but men and women under that age should get it. A new form of the vaccine gardisil-9 is available and currently provides the greatest range of protection versus gardasil or ceravarix. Ceravarix is cheaper so some people get it because of cost (about 25% less expensive), but I think its worth getting the broader coverage vaccine.

No vaccine for gonorrhea, syphillis, or chlamydia. Unfortunately, gonorrhea is becoming more resistant to antibiotics, its a big problem actually.

And, as an FYI. The incidence of HIV infection in the PHIL is rising. Primarily in young women. Just keep that in mind when you are dumping load after load of cum into those nice tight Asian pussies (I like that too by the way hehe).

GG.

[QUOTE=GenevaGuy;1971686]No vaccine for gonorrhea, syphillis, or chlamydia. Unfortunately, gonorrhea is becoming more resistant to antibiotics, its a big problem actually.

And, as an FYI. The incidence of HIV infection in the PHIL is rising. Primarily in young women. Just keep that in mind when you are dumping load after load of cum into those nice tight Asian pussies (I like that too by the way hehe).

GG.[/QUOTE]In 2015 (July), there were 682 new cases registered, 17 per cent more than the same month the previous year. Ninety-four per cent of them were male and the average age was 27. Half of the individuals diagnosed as HIV positive belong to the 25-to-34 year age group, while 30 per cent were youth aged 15 to 24.

In terms of modes of transmission, the most common was sexual contact (663 cases), and 86 per cent of the sexually transmitted cases were among males who have sex with males. The other modes of transmission were needle sharing among drug users (17 cases) and mother-to-child transmission (two cases).

So, unless a monger walks on the wild side with trannies and drug injected street meat the odds of joining the Dallas Buyers Club are relatively low. Also, the current purging of drug addicts and sellers should put a dent in the drug related HIV transmissions. Of course, the NGOs are doing their best to make it seem like young women are the ones with the fastest growing membership in the Dallas Buyers Club in order to drum up financial contributions to their coffers. Trannies and drug addicts do not get the same degree of sympathy from charitable donors.

In Region 1, there are a total of 696 HIV-AIDS cases from 1984 to 2016. Of this total, Pangasinan has the highest number with 341 full blown AIDS sufferers, La Union with 130 cases, Ilocos Sur 89 and Ilocos Norte with 50 cases.

Eight of the top ten municipalities with high number of HIV-AIDS cases are in Pangasinan: (1) San Fernando City, (2) Dagupan City, (3) Urdaneta City, (4) San Carlos City, (5) Bauang, Laoag, (6) Lingayen, (7) Villasis, (8) San Juan, (9) San Fabian, Bayambang, Binmaley, (10) Vigan.

Rosario, a veteran phsycian said there could be more affected but are not yet reported because they are ashamed to come out.

He said the provincial board's Committee on Health will conduct hearings to formulate legislation to address the problem on HIV / AIDS in Pangasinan.

DOH data reveals that 46 percent of the positive cases were acquired through homosexual contact, 31 percent through bisexual contact, 22 percent through heterosexual contact; other transmission modes are through pregnancy from mother to child, blood transfusion and sharing of needles in injecting drugs.

The DOH report added that 60 percent of those found positive for HIV-AIDS are 15 to 25 years old.

Dr. Ceilo Almoite, provincial health officer 1, said they only have the figures of the HIV-AIDS cases. The identities of the infected individuals remains confidential.

Data from the DOH HIV / AIDS situation in the Philippines in the prevention and control update shows that the Philippines is one of the top three countries with increasing number of HIV cases with 34,999 reported cases from January 1984 to June 2016, with 26 new cases reported every day.

Almoite said the 300 plus full-blown cases in Pangasinan are being treated with anti-retro viral drug given for free at DOH's treatments hubs but they are not confined although their activities are closely monitored.

Ma. Cristina, one of the alleged victims of HIV-AIDS told The Manila TImes that she was diagnosed by an internal medicine physician in Region I Medical Center in October and she was recommended to be treated in a hospital in Manila but decided to go home due to lack of money to pay for the rent of her boarding house, and other expenses.

Ma. Cristina is a former 2nd year nursing student in a private college in Dagupan City where she is also working in a videoke bar to support her studies.

She is a native of Cagayan de Oro City and she has been staying with her cousin, a prostitute, in Pangasinan for more than six years now.

Ma. Cristina admitted to this writer that she got her HIV-AIDS from her costumers when she has sex with them at least three times in one night.

She also suspects that her boyfriend, a policemen in active duty, could be the one who transferred the HIV-AIDS virus to her because he is a womanizer and he is the only last person to have sex with her when she started to feel the said illness.

Ma. Cristina refused to go home to her home province when she was offered a free plane ticket and extra budget by a businessman friend of this writer. Eanwhile, Sison opposed the planned distribution of condoms to schools as a means to prevent the spread of HIV-AIDS.

[URL]http://www.manilatimes.net/pangasinan-cases-hiv-aids-region/302481/[/URL]

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;1975719]Ma. Cristina admitted to this writer that she got her HIV-AIDS from her costumers when she has sex with them at least three times in one night.

She also suspects that her boyfriend, a policemen in active duty, could be the one who transferred the HIV-AIDS virus to her because he is a womanizer and he is the only last person to have sex with her when she started to feel the said illness.
[/QUOTE]Fucking costumers. So theatrical. Put people in preposterous fancy dress that gives them the AIDS. Corsets. Ill-fitted shoes with 7" heels. A fascinator. Three costume changes a night will certainly make anyone feel unwell. I now have a headache just thinking of it. "I've started to feel the AIDS. " It's like the flu, that way. A day or two after being exposed you've got a scratchy throat and a runny nose.

[QUOTE=GenevaGuy;1971686]HIV: No vaccine to date, effective treatments to control (but not cure) the disease. Risk of getting HIV from an infected person (heterosexual sex) is about 1/200 so its not zero, but its low. Less infectious than Hep be.[/QUOTE]You can take Truvada for PrEP.

Truvada: [URL]https://www.drugs.com/truvada.html[/URL].

Prep: [URL]https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/risk/prep/[/URL].

[QUOTE]Pre-exposure prophylaxis, or PrEP, is a way for people who do not have HIV but who are at substantial risk of getting it to prevent HIV infection by taking a pill every day. The pill (brand name Truvada) contains two medicines (tenofovir and emtricitabine) that are used in combination with other medicines to treat HIV. When someone is exposed to HIV through sex or injection drug use, these medicines can work to keep the virus from establishing a permanent infection.

When taken consistently, PrEP has been shown to reduce the risk of HIV infection in people who are at high risk by up to 92%. PrEP is much less effective if it is not taken consistently.[/QUOTE]

Vaginal sex hiv transmission from male to female is a lot less then 1\200 maybe 1\1000 asuming the girl has no std's. Anal sex rate is very high same as man man sex. Lately there seems to be an upsurge of men wanting anal sex with women, especally in Germany and thailand (they call it A+). You can use doxycycline to reduce your chance of getting chlamydia, syphilis and gonorhea. Google doxycycline std prevention. See betablog in 2015, and aidsmap in 2015. The problem is condoms help reduce the pay for play business, which is what the authorities want. So I think the condom is here to stay, even if they have vaccines for all std's.

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;1975719]Ma. Cristina admitted to this writer that she got her HIV-AIDS from her costumers when she has sex with them at least three times in one night.

She also suspects that her boyfriend, a policemen in active duty, could be the one who transferred the HIV-AIDS virus to her because he is a womanizer and he is the only last person to have sex with her when she started to feel the said illness.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Hutsori;1976255]Fucking costumers. So theatrical. Put people in preposterous fancy dress that gives them the AIDS. Corsets. Ill-fitted shoes with 7" heels. A fascinator. Three costume changes a night will certainly make anyone feel unwell. I now have a headache just thinking of it. "I've started to feel the AIDS. " It's like the flu, that way. A day or two after being exposed you've got a scratchy throat and a runny nose.[/QUOTE]A witty riposte that is much appreciated.

It's worth noting that the erratum is not from Chocha Monger, but was in the original Manila Times article. Isn't that supposed to be the "best" newspaper in the Philippines?

[QUOTE=DoubleShooter;1981212]It's worth noting that the erratum is not from Chocha Monger, but was in the original Manila Times article. Isn't that supposed to be the "best" newspaper in the Philippines?[/QUOTE]Didn't seem like errata to me, just a change in the reporter's voice. CM often quotes directly from news reports he's found online without making his role distinct from the author's.

Manila Times the "best" newspaper? I think "best" is usually relative to the reader's likes and interests. The link below suggests the Inquirer, Star, and Bulletin, in that order, and the Times a couple notches lower on the list. Notice that the ones atop this list are English-language. It's not clear what criteria they used in their evaluation, but it might simply be circulation numbers. Size of circulation doesn't necessarily capture "best," but it probably reflects the paper's influence. Historically, the first three comprised a sort of continuum of political slant, from most liberal, or critical toward those in power (Inquirer), to most conservative, or complimentary to elites (Bulletin). Some of the well-established expats probably have a better, more recent handle on this.

Probably a better thread for this, but doubt anybody will care enough about it to comment, so let it die here.

[URL]http://www.4imn.com/ph/[/URL]

By: Tina G. Santos. Reporter / at santostinaINQ.

Philippine Daily Inquirer / 05:16 AM March 09,2017.

A total of 844 new cases of the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV), including nine pregnant women, were reported in January this year, the highest number since 1984, according to the Department of Health (DOH).

In effect, an average of 27 cases were reported every day that month.

"This was 5 percent higher compared to the same period last year, which had 804 cases," the DOH said. The latest figure also topped the 841 cases recorded in June 2016.

HIV could lead to the fatal acquired immune deficiency syndrome (AIDS).

Out of the 844 cases, 90 developed into full-blown AIDS, based on the latest HIV / AIDS Registry of the Philippines. Thirty-three died from HIV / AIDS in January.

Ninety-six percent of the cases were males. More than half belonged to the 25-34 year age group while 31 percent were aged 15 to 24 years.

The report also showed that 38 females were diagnosed with HIV in January, including the nine pregnant women, seven of whom came from the National Capital Region, one from Region 1 and one from Region 7.

The regions with the most number of reported cases were NCR with 307 cases, Calabarzon with 151 cases, Central Luzon with 91 cases, Central Visayas with 62 cases, and Davao Region with 50 cases.

Majority of the new cases were transmitted sexually (826), including the 85 percent coming from the male-having-sex-with-male (MSM) sector.

Homosexual contact accounted for 469 cases, followed by bisexual contact with 245, and heterosexual contact with 112.

There were also 16 cases transmitted through sharing of infected needles among drug users. The last two cases were found to be mother-to-child transmissions of HIV.

A total of 65 overseas Filipino workers were also found to have acquired HIV, all by sexual contact.

Since 1984 HIV cases have risen to 40,466, including 3,755 full-blown AIDS cases, and 2,002 deaths.

Read more: [URL]http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/878959/9-pregnant-women-among-844-new-hiv-cases[/URL]#ixzz4 ambFzQ44.

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Many hardcore mongers choose vasectomy as a method of birth control because it allows them to cream pie random pussies with relatively low risks of impregnation. However, this decision may increase their odds of developing ball cancer and mental retardation later in life.

According to a study conducted by Emard et al. (2001), there is a link between vasectomy and increased risk of prostate cancer a decade after the procedure. Approximately, 60-70% of vasectomized men experience an increase in antibodies that neutralize spermatozoa that leak into the bloodstream. Apparently, this alters the immune system in a way that promotes the development of cancer. Vasectomy may also cause a decrease in prostate secretions leaving the gland more vulnerable to carcinogenic factors.

Vasectomy has also been identified as a risk factor for primary progressive aphasia which is a dementia syndrome. Physicians have noted that after vasectomy, healthy men in their 30's and 40's developed serious disorders which could only be explained as long-term clinical and immunologic abnormalities secondary to the surgical procedure. These secondary conditions include thrombophlebitis, pulmonary embolism, a unique migratory arthropathy, various allergies and skin eruptions (erythema nodosum, erythema multiforme, systemic mastocytosis), severe infections, metabolic abnormalities, multiple sclerosis, scleroderma, and kidney stones.

It seems like a high price to pay for cream pies, especially since a vasectomy does not prevent one's dick from being infected with sexually transmitted diseases. So, from a mongering perspective a vasectomy does not rule out condom use with random women of unknown health status. Also, vasectomies have a 10-17% failure rate with efficiency increasing after the surgeon has completed a minimum of 50 procedures. This means that a vasectomy only reduces the odds of pregnancy for bareback sex and cream pie but does not completely eliminate it. That means that guys who were vasectomized several years ago could still be delivering potent cream pies with viable spermatozoa into girls' pussies unknowingly. So, when a girl claims she has been impregnated by a vasectomized bareback monger, he still needs to have his semen checked for viable spermatozoa to rule out the possibility that he was the culprit.

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2036518]Many hardcore mongers choose vasectomy as a method of birth control because it allows them to cream pie random pussies with relatively low risks of impregnation. However, this decision may increase their odds of developing ball cancer and mental retardation later in life.

According to a study conducted by Emard et al. (2001), there is a link between vasectomy and increased risk of prostate cancer a decade after the procedure. Approximately, 60-70% of vasectomized men experience an increase in antibodies that neutralize spermatozoa that leak into the bloodstream. Apparently, this alters the immune system in a way that promotes the development of cancer. Vasectomy may also cause a decrease in prostate secretions leaving the gland more vulnerable to carcinogenic factors.[/QUOTE]Very timely discussion as I have been contemplating this procedure.

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2036518]Many hardcore mongers choose vasectomy as a method of birth control because it allows them to cream pie random pussies with relatively low risks of impregnation. However, this decision may increase their odds of developing ball cancer and mental retardation later in life.[/QUOTE]I do agree these risks sound somewhat disconcerting however I have no regrets getting a vasectomy a number of years ago. I am aware of more than one monger who sees no problem in dropping his seed throughout Angeles City. A couple of these have sired close to 20 little bastards between the two of them. They do not support these kids at all however you can see them three times a week playing golf together at Mimosa Golf Club. I would rather suffer the risks you describe than to have to face the guilt of not taking care of any kids I would be responsible for.

I've been thinking about getting a vasectomy lately. I'm 50, single, and at my stage in life do not want any kids.

I know a few Filipinas and none of them like using condoms. All love it natural.

I'm thinking about getting one, so that no accidents happen and I can still enjoy the pleasure of natural unprotected sex with non working women!

[QUOTE=DanTheMan;2038574]I've been thinking about getting a vasectomy lately. I'm 50, single, and at my stage in life do not want any kids.

I know a few Filipinas and none of them like using condoms. All love it natural.

I'm thinking about getting one, so that no accidents happen and I can still enjoy the pleasure of natural unprotected sex with non working women![/QUOTE]Suggest you talk to someone who has had the snip, the feeling is not exactly the same as pre snip.

[QUOTE=DanTheMan;2038574]I've been thinking about getting a vasectomy lately. I'm 50, single, and at my stage in life do not want any kids.

I know a few Filipinas and none of them like using condoms. All love it natural.

I'm thinking about getting one, so that no accidents happen and I can still enjoy the pleasure of natural unprotected sex with non working women![/QUOTE]I had mine done for the same reason at about age 54. In my experience, the subsequent poster is correct. My feeling down there has never quite been the same. Now, at 60, I constantly struggle with ED issues. And since the vasectomy, my cum output is almost zero. After the procedure, they instruct you to bring in a sample a few weeks after to see if you have any sperm. The volume of my samples has never been sufficient for them to test. Before the procedure, I had normal feeling and cum output. After, the cum just dribbles out from milking it post-orgasm.

If I had to do it again, I wouldn't. Just my opinion.

Here is the bottom line on any elective medical procedure (surgery): Don't do it unless your life depends on it. Leave well enough alone.

[QUOTE=Bubby;2038677]I had mine done for the same reason at about age 54. In my experience, the subsequent poster is correct. My feeling down there has never quite been the same. Now, at 60, I constantly struggle with ED issues. And since the vasectomy, my cum output is almost zero. After the procedure, they instruct you to bring in a sample a few weeks after to see if you have any sperm. The volume of my samples has never been sufficient for them to test. Before the procedure, I had normal feeling and cum output. After, the cum just dribbles out from milking it post-orgasm.

If I had to do it again, I wouldn't. Just my opinion.[/QUOTE]You need to get checked out. Over 70% of the fluid volume comes from the prostate and other glands that are not affected by the vasectomy. I am 62 and had my last vasectomy 28 years ago and I still produce a good amount of cum and have no ED issues.

Take care my friend.

[QUOTE=ScreamingBeaver;2038400]I do agree these risks sound somewhat disconcerting however I have no regrets getting a vasectomy a number of years ago. I am aware of more than one monger who sees no problem in dropping his seed throughout Angeles City. A couple of these have sired close to 20 little bastards between the two of them. They do not support these kids at all however you can see them three times a week playing golf together at Mimosa Golf Club. I would rather suffer the risks you describe than to have to face the guilt of not taking care of any kids I would be responsible for.[/QUOTE]It is true that vasectomies reduce unwanted pregnancies. However, guys who are willing to let a surgeon slice into their nuts or stab their nut sacks with a large needle are demonstrating that they are responsible enough to take care of any unintended pregnancies even if they were not vasectomized. The two duffers that play golf three times a week at the Mimosa Golf Club obviously intend to impregnate random women without supporting their bastard offspring. Given that they have about 20 little bastards between them, none of which they support, serves as evidence of some sociopathic agenda beyond having a fondness for bareback sex and cream pies.

On the other hand, responsible mongers deserve to be thoroughly informed about the potential consequences of submitting their nuts to scalpel, needle, and cauterization instruments. Kravetz (2002) reported in the journal Urology Times that after non-scalpel vasectomy, 25% of the men experienced persistent testicular pain, 11% experienced pain during sexual intercourse, and 2% experienced erectile dysfunction.

Some mongers also gave personal accounts after being vasectomized of reduced pleasurable sensations in their cocks, precipitous declines in seminal volume to a few drops, and ejaculatory force significantly weakening from a vigorous spurt to a feeble dribble. Such complications have the potential to prematurely end an otherwise promising mongering career, especially for bukkake practitioners.

In spite of all the risks, some guys will still roll the dice on a surgeon potentially butchering their nuts but at least they will be giving informed consent. The less adventurous may decide to use condoms and forgo random bareback engagements. For bareback connoisseurs who are unwilling to settle for anything less but don't wish to chance vasectomy related complications, they can always choose to limit bareback to pinays using verifiable birth control methods like implants or intrauterine devices. It all comes down to individual risk tolerance.

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2038888]Some mongers also gave personal accounts after being vasectomized of reduced pleasurable sensations in their cocks, precipitous declines in seminal volume to a few drops, and ejaculatory force significantly weakening from a vigorous spurt to a feeble dribble. Such complications have the potential to prematurely end an otherwise promising mongering career, especially for bukkake practitioners.[/QUOTE]I guess I'm one of the lucky ones. I've never experienced any of those unwanted side effects described by AussieDoug and Bubby. The erectile dysfunctions they describe can only be characterized as a nightmare. If you read their posts it appears they may both be candidates for penile implants since their original equipment has become null and void. It seems Bubby's ejaculation produces just a few grains of sand and any future plans for a bukkake finish are just a dream sequence. For me, it's been quite the opposite. It actually improved my sexual appetite knowing I can spray with immunity and impunity into any flip beaver I bed down with. As far as lack of semen which Bubby describes I'm afraid that dude has some kind of prostate problems not related to the vasectomy since only 3 percent of the seminal fluid comes from the testicles. He should see a doctor immediately.

[QUOTE=ScreamingBeaver;2039212]I guess I'm one of the lucky ones. I've never experienced any of those unwanted side effects described by AussieDoug and Bubby. The erectile dysfunctions they describe can only be characterized as a nightmare. If you read their posts it appears they may both be candidates for penile implants since their original equipment has become null and void. It seems Bubby's ejaculation produces just a few grains of sand and any future plans for a bukkake finish are just a dream sequence. For me, it's been quite the opposite. It actually improved my sexual appetite knowing I can spray with immunity and impunity into any flip beaver I bed down with. As far as lack of semen which Bubby describes I'm afraid that dude has some kind of prostate problems not related to the vasectomy since only 3 percent of the seminal fluid comes from the testicles. He should see a doctor immediately.[/QUOTE]I have never been a gambling man. Frankly, the horrible side effects of erectile dysfunction, decreased penile sensitivity and loss of ejaculatory ability described by AussieDoug and Bubby after their vasectomies should terrify any monger who takes their sexual satisfaction seriously. The prospect of being able to shoot multiple loads into any fertile Flip beaver without paternal consequences sounds appealing. However, ending up with a crippled cock because some sausage fingered surgeon rummaged through one's ball sack to find and snip the vas deferens would preclude any future enjoyment of hot Flip snatch.

Also, since the globalization of the Flip sex tourism industry, new antibiotic resistant strains of cock crud have become relatively commonplace in AC, Cebu and Manila. The movie "Bakit Lahat ng Gwapo may Boyfriend?" (Why Does Every Handsome Guy have a Boyfriend?) has convinced many pinays that having a bakla boyfriend is fashionable, and this is facilitating the crossover of the growing AIDS epidemic among Flip gay men into the female population. So, the days of care-free bare-backing with a vasectomy in the Philippines are long gone.

There is also the cost aspect involved with getting a vasectomy and correcting the side effects. A vasectomy from a reasonably competent urologist costs about $2,500, and an installed penile implant without complications costs approximately $25,000. Under proposed healthcare reforms in the USA, implants for crippled cocks are considered elective surgery and will not be covered by insurance. Cock refurbishment and rehabilitation with implants can restore an erection but not sensitivity and ejaculation. So, it probably makes more sense to forgo the vasectomy and use that $27,500 to build a nipa hut, and buy some farmland and animals to support any unplanned little bastards.

Here is some information about the hazards of eating pussy and dropping loads in Angeles City. It is something to think about next time a pinay asks, "Do I look like I have a sick?

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuNfM4k4iAA[/URL]

[URL]https://youtu.be/voep2OXr2ig?t=39[/URL]

[QUOTE=Bubby;2038677]I had mine done for the same reason at about age 54. In my experience, the subsequent poster is correct. My feeling down there has never quite been the same. Now, at 60, I constantly struggle with ED issues. And since the vasectomy, my cum output is almost zero. After the procedure, they instruct you to bring in a sample a few weeks after to see if you have any sperm. The volume of my samples has never been sufficient for them to test. Before the procedure, I had normal feeling and cum output. After, the cum just dribbles out from milking it post-orgasm.

If I had to do it again, I wouldn't. Just my opinion.[/QUOTE]Bubby,

You may try Maca powder. I know it's not tested by the FDA but I have had some amazing results with it. I discovered it while doing a cleanse and it was one of the ingredients. During the cleanse my cum out put almost tripled. I couldn't believe it. I wasn't sure what one of the ingredients that was causing it, so I read up on them all. I continued to use the Maca powder in my protein shakes and I continued to have the biggest cum outputs ever and all the time. Give it a try, it can't hurt and it may work. Good luck.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2038700]Here is the bottom line on any elective medical procedure (surgery): Don't do it unless your life depends on it. Leave well enough alone.[/QUOTE]Some supposedly non-elective surgeries are arguably worse than the ailments they are meant to treat. I know of guys who allowed surgeons to talk them into undergoing bilateral orchiectomy to lower testosterone levels in order to slow the spread of prostate cancer. Now their sex lives are limited to licking pussy. Imagine being able to lick your favorite foods and taste them but never actually consume them. Such a life is more like some cruel torture thought up by Dr. Josef Mengele. Remember the surgeon always gets paid for cutting up your choice bits. It is up to you to decide whether or not the quality of life after the cuts is worth it. Deferment of death by any and all means is not always worth it as the extension of the lease on life for a few more years can sometimes prove to be more agonizing than a more hasty departure.

After bilateral orchiectomy guys experience all of the symptoms of a postmenopausal women including osteoporosis, fatigue, cardiovascular disease, hot flashes, no sex drive, declining muscle mass, weight gain, and forgetfulness. As if the menopausal symptoms are not enough, after the procedure men grow large feminine breasts and no longer have boners. They pretty much live out their remaining days as older women. Of course, the surgeons do not pitch this part of the surgical outcome because they have expensive cars, homes, ex-wives, children and student loans to pay for. They need to do as many surgeries as possible because they get paid by the cut.

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2047521]Some supposedly non-elective surgeries are arguably worse than the ailments they are meant to treat. I know of guys who allowed surgeons to talk them into undergoing bilateral orchiectomy to lower testosterone levels in order to slow the spread of prostate cancer. Now their sex lives are limited to licking pussy.[/QUOTE]It's bad enough some guys sign up for the operation to remove their prostate glands which leaves them with little sex drive and having to wear a pair of nappies. I can't believe some agree to having their testicles removed just to lower their testosterone. The only person who should consider that is Bruce Jenner.

It appears that some girls in Manila have caught on to the practice of dick tweaking where a mixture of shabu and water is injected into the monger's dick resulting in massive prolonged erections with extremely intense ejaculatory sensations. Some guys claim it causes a significant portion of the third of the penile shaft normally retained within the body to extend outwards increasing the length of the boner. The boner can last for several hours. However, this is where things can get a bit risky as repeated use of the super boner can cause one's cock to become worn out and die. At first, I thought that it was just another one of those crazy "remedies" that girls heard from some joker in the bar or on Facebook. Some quick research revealed that it is a real thing in Britain, and some fella actually got a prosthetic cock from NHS out of it. [URL]https://youtu.be/QrpJ4N0ffgk?t=43[/URL].

A recent news article titled 'Orgies and Tinder: Millennials are having sex, some with a deadly price' expressed concern that HIV has been reinvigorated thanks to a combination of social networking technology, acceptance of unsafe sex, and increasing bisexuality. An HIV coordinator in the Visayas observed that finding sexual partners with tech is as easy swiping right, clicking a follow button, or sending sexually provocative photos and messages to strangers online. He said Filipinos are using Grindr, Facebook, and Twitter, to meet strangers for risky sex. They use Facebook to facilitate the organizing of monthly 'group activities' or orgies.

The online coordination of these orgies attracts gays, bisexuals, and straight couples. According to the Filipino HIV coordinator, these individuals have sex with both males and females but do not consider themselves gay; transgender women have sex with males; teenage girls have sex with males who have had sex with other males. This has resulted in the 15-24 year age group becoming the group experiencing the fastest growth rate for HIV infections in the Philippines. In March 2017, the Department of Health reported 42,283 HIV-positive individuals in the country, out of this 11,550 belong to the 15-24 age group. Many were already exhibiting symptoms of secondary infections, indicating that they were probably infected at 13,14, while attending high school. About 91% of the recorded HIV cases in the Philippines live for years after contracting virus unaware of their HIV-positive status before they experience the symptoms of full-blown AIDS and seek testing. There is no telling how many of them are unaware of their infection and having sex, unknowing infecting others with HIV. According to AIDS Epidemiology Modeling, around 62% of the estimated newly-infected are coming from the 15-24 age group, meaning that the Philippines is only diagnosing only around 23-25% of that 15-24 group. So many others are living with the virus, and without treatment it is slowly but steadily breaking down their immune systems. Meanwhile they are having sex, and that's fact.

Many will discover their HIV-positive status upon being tested during the medical screening process to become an Overseas Foreign Worker or seafarer. This highlights the danger the youth HIV epidemic represents to the Philippines which relies heavily on the exportation of labor to prop up its economy. Left unchecked the HIV epidemic will also lead to increases in opportunistic communicable diseases like tuberculosis which already strain a fragile health system.

In early 2017, the Philippine government cracked down on popular porn sites less than two weeks after the country ranked as having the third highest viewership for online porn worldwide. However, the country has a long history of tolerating homosexuality, and popular television shows feature gay personalities feeding the public a constant stream of gay sexual innuendo. Gays even have their own lingo known as Swardspeak or Chuva. When the Spaniards arrived in the Philippines centuries ago, they were astonished to see native men dressed and acting like women in respected leadership positions. They discovered that native women occupied important positions as priestesses and matriarchs who were able to divorce their husbands, name their children, own property and accumulate wealth. Some of the male natives decided to access these benefits by becoming gay and dressing like women. Although these transsexual native men had sex with other men, they also had sex with women to produce children. This was an affront to Spanish machismo and Catholicism. The Spaniards colonized the Philippines, quickly set about indoctrinating the natives and put the women in their place. However, three-hundred years of Spanish colonial rule and Catholicism failed to stamp the gay out of the natives. The United States replaced the Spaniards as colonial masters but the Americans and their white-Protestant values fared no better in eliminating cross dressing, effeminacy, and homosexuality from Philippine society.

The fact that Filipino men who have sex with gay male cross dressers do not consider themselves homosexuals, and Philippine society does not see them as gays creates a situation where young women are being exposed high risk sex with bisexual men who do not identify as such. This means as the number of HIV-positive men continue to skyrocket in the gay community, a lagging increase HIV-positive women can be expected. As a result, heterosexual men having sex with women in the Philippines may be at an elevated risk of HIV infection.

The World Health Organization reported that bareback blowjobs are creating incurable super-gonorrhea and helping it spread. Three cases of incurable gonorrhea that resisted every drug thrown at them were declared untreatable in Japan the land of bukkake, France the home of fellatio, and Spain. [URL]http://www.bbc.com/news/health-40520125[/URL].

If these incurable super gonorrhea strains strike Angeles City where BBBJCIM, BBCIP and BBCIA are standard, it could be a real disaster.

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2057173]The World Health Organization reported that bareback blowjobs are creating incurable super-gonorrhea and helping it spread. Three cases of incurable gonorrhea that resisted every drug thrown at them were declared untreatable in Japan the land of bukkake, France the home of fellatio, and Spain. [URL]http://www.bbc.com/news/health-40520125[/URL].

If these incurable super gonorrhea strains strike Angeles City where BBBJCIM, BBCIP and BBCIA are standard, it could be a real disaster.[/QUOTE]Damn, I recently did all 3 of the acronyms mentioned in CM's post within the last couple days and so far the tool seems to be working just fine. I have a feeling there are some suppressed jerk offs who are not enjoying sex the way we do here in AC and have to invent all kinds of scare tactics to prevent us from spraying loads onto and into these little flips. Not going to stop. I'm on a mission.

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2056226]
The fact that Filipino men who have sex with gay male cross dressers do not consider themselves homosexuals, and Philippine society does not see them as gays creates a situation where young women are being exposed high risk sex with bisexual men who do not identify as such. This means as the number of HIV-positive men continue to skyrocket in the gay community, a lagging increase HIV-positive women can be expected. As a result, heterosexual men having sex with women in the Philippines may be at an elevated risk of HIV infection.[/QUOTE]This is the most interesting paragraph for me and could be a big difference between RP & other countries.

In my experience I am very successful at picking up infections whenever I BB a filipina. These are usually girls that I've known a while, I use condoms the first few times. As my trust grows it really is not good at detecting things.

The STI tests in Philippines seem to be very basic to identify "an infection somewhere" and they do not have the rage of specific tests that we enjoy when we get home to the west.

On that note, for visitors, no need for a doctors referral for a blood test, you can just go to a blood testing center and request what you want.

BD.

In addition to the possibility of getting something requiring medical attention there is also the permanent addition of a child either yours or not, but asking for support. I had a college girl insist on BB session. Immediately my spidey scenes when off and in my mind "No F**king way" echoed.

I recently spent a week or so enjoying the fruits of Angeles City. I had one condom break, received a BBBJ at the same time by 2 lovely ladies, and had a week of BBFS with a regular of mine who I know see's other customers on and off.

Now that I am back home and sobered up, I want to do get STD testing. My question for you is, what are the standard tests you sign up for after having engaged in similar types of activities?

There are web sites out there where you can simply order a specific test you're interested in or you can sign up for various STD packages, all varying in price of course. For instance, you can google 'request a test' and they offer a menu of options.

Any help in this area is appreciated. And hopefully useful for others as well.

Hootas.

[QUOTE=Hootas;2091185]I recently spent a week or so enjoying the fruits of Angeles City. I had one condom break, received a BBBJ at the same time by 2 lovely ladies, and had a week of BBFS with a regular of mine who I know see's other customers on and off.

Now that I am back home and sobered up, I want to do get STD testing. My question for you is, what are the standard tests you sign up for after having engaged in similar types of activities?

There are web sites out there where you can simply order a specific test you're interested in or you can sign up for various STD packages, all varying in price of course. For instance, you can google 'request a test' and they offer a menu of options.

Any help in this area is appreciated. And hopefully useful for others as well.

Hootas.[/QUOTE]Just order a full panel STD screening including HIV. If you nutted in the girls' pussies when the condom broke or during the two weeks of bareback fucking, order them the pregnancy tests. If the girls' pregnancy tests turn up positive, order the paternity test.

[QUOTE=Hootas;2091185]I recently spent a week or so enjoying the fruits of Angeles City. I had one condom break, received a BBBJ at the same time by 2 lovely ladies, and had a week of BBFS with a regular of mine who I know see's other customers on and off.

Now that I am back home and sobered up, I want to do get STD testing. My question for you is, what are the standard tests you sign up for after having engaged in similar types of activities?

There are web sites out there where you can simply order a specific test you're interested in or you can sign up for various STD packages, all varying in price of course. For instance, you can google 'request a test' and they offer a menu of options.

Any help in this area is appreciated. And hopefully useful for others as well.

Hootas.[/QUOTE]I have ordered the full panel of tests in the past. In USA you can order it online and make an appointment for the lab and they will draw blood and get a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] sample from you. Pretty quick and painless. The results will be emailed to you. It did cost about $200 out of pocket. I did not want to use my insurance for privacy reasons.

I hear you can go to local county places for much cheaper. Even Planned Parenthood.

The girl can get a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] PT test for P100. The problem might be if you trust her or not. They can easily show you a pregnant friends test. The paternity DNA test after birth is available in the Philippines and there is a office located in Angeles. The swabs are Fed-Ex to a lab in USA for the testing. At the same time swabs are mailed to you and you mail the swabs to the lab. Results are within a week. I believe the costs was P15,000.

I ordered the same DNA kit and testing online for $120. They will send you the swabs for the alleged father, child and mother. I took the swabs on my next trip to Phil and got samples from the child and mother and upon my return I sent them to the lab. Results were emailed to me in less than a week. Besides confirming whether you are the father or not they will confirm if she is the mother or not.

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2091354]Just order a full panel STD screening including HIV. If you nutted in the girls' pussies when the condom broke or during the two weeks of bareback fucking, order them the pregnancy tests. If the girls' pregnancy tests turn up positive, order the paternity test.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the feedback. I went ahead and ordered up "the Peace of Mind" STD panel which is setting me back $250. Got to do what I got to do. Keeping the fingers crossed.

Interesting thing that you also bring up the paternity testing. What are the woman's rights if you get a Filipino pregnant? Does she have the legal rights to get financial support if you are the true father? If so, does it vary from country to country? For instance, maybe some countries cooperate with the Philippines in enforcing financial support. Reading back some of the threads and searching via Google was not very conclusive.

The reason why I ask is because the regular I was seeing recently got pregnant by one of her customers. A real shame because this girl is already struggling to support one baby, herself, and her extended family. Now here comes another. I don't think her Korean customer is taking a position of providing her with support which I personally think is a cold move.

Bottom line: Is getting a Filipina pregnant simply a matter of dealing with your conscience or does this bring about legally-backed financial obligations as well?

Hootas.

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2091354]Just order a full panel STD screening including HIV. If you nutted in the girls' pussies when the condom broke or during the two weeks of bareback fucking, order them the pregnancy tests. If the girls' pregnancy tests turn up positive, order the paternity test.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2091354]Just order a full panel STD screening including HIV. If you nutted in the girls' pussies when the condom broke or during the two weeks of bareback fucking, order them the pregnancy tests. If the girls' pregnancy tests turn up positive, order the paternity test.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the feedback. I went ahead and ordered up "the Peace of Mind" STD panel which is setting me back $250. Got to do what I got to do. Keeping the fingers crossed.

Interesting thing that you also bring up the paternity testing. What are the woman's rights if you get a Filipina pregnant? Does she have the legal rights to get financial support if you are the true father? If so, does it vary from country to country? For instance, maybe some countries cooperate with the Philippines in enforcing financial support whereas others may turn a blind eye. Reading back some of the threads and searching via Google was not very conclusive.

The reason why I ask is because the regular I was seeing recently got pregnant by one of her customers. A real shame because this girl is already struggling to support one baby, herself, and her extended family. Now here comes another. I don't think her Korean customer is taking a position of providing her with support which I personally think is a cold move.

Bottom line: Is getting a Filipina pregnant simply a matter of dealing with your conscience or does this bring about legally-backed financial obligations as well?

Hootas.

[QUOTE=Hootas;2091709] Interesting thing that you also bring up the paternity testing. What are the woman's rights if you get a Filipino pregnant? Does she have the legal rights to get financial support if you are the true father? If so, does it vary from country to country? For instance, maybe some countries cooperate with the Philippines in enforcing financial support. Reading back some of the threads and searching via Google was not very conclusive.[/QUOTE]In a word, yes. A Filipina has the right to sue the 'daddy monger' for financial compensation. The Philippine 1987 Constitution has provisions concerning child support that combine with the law on Violence Against Women and Children. Reciprocal agreements for collection of child support exists for some countries but not for others. For example, Australia has a reciprocal agreement with the Philippines for the collection of support while the USA does not. However, the Filipina can obtain a child support order from the Court in the Philippines and file it with a USA Court for recognition and enforcement. The USA Court will consider the matter and issue a ruling in the best interest of the child. Then Daddy Monger's life may get very interesting.

[QUOTE=Hootas;2091709]The reason why I ask is because the regular I was seeing recently got pregnant by one of her customers. A real shame because this girl is already struggling to support one baby, herself, and her extended family. Now here comes another. I don't think her Korean customer is taking a position of providing her with support which I personally think is a cold move.[/QUOTE]From the Korean monger's point of view, he was a customer that paid a professional hooker for sexual services, and it was understood that she relieved him of all responsibilities and liabilities for consequences that may result from partaking in the services she provided for a fee. After all, mongers pay for sex precisely because they do not want to assume the liabilities that come with free sexual relations. If a doctor is infected with a disease as the result of treating a patient without taking adequate precautions, he / she cannot sue the patient for compensation.

Your girl most likely made a unilateral decision to become impregnated with the Korean customer's sperms as she thinks he is a handsome man and she wanted a cute Korean baby who will grow up to be a big star in the telenovelas. Any child support from the Korean monger was an afterthought. She already had a child before so she was well acquainted with the process. She knew that letting the Korean monger bareback her pussy and squirt his load inside with impunity would result in a little bastard. Harden up and do not let the girls draw you into their self-imposed tragedies.

[QUOTE=Hootas;2091709] Bottom line: Is getting a Filipina pregnant simply a matter of dealing with your conscience or does this bring about legally-backed financial obligations as well?[/QUOTE]Yes and maybe. Many mongers have no conscience and spray their geriatric sperms willy-nilly into the beavers of fertile Bush women only to drop dead shortly thereafter, leaving scores of half-breed bastards to fend for themselves. These children often survive as scavengers called 'mambabatchoy' who subsist on a Filipino delicacy called 'pagpag' that consists of discarded food salvaged from dumpsters and garbage heaps. The children often consume pagpag directly from garbage heaps but they also take home any excess food waste where it may be fried or used to prepare soups such as 'pagpag a la kaldereta'. Fried chicken waste from Jollibee and KFC are favorite ingredients and it is common to see foreign-looking children raiding the dumpsters behind these fine restaurants in Angeles City, Cebu, Davao, and Manila.

If you father a bastard on a Filipina hooker, she is unlikely to come after you because you were just business to her. However, should a Western funded anti-mongering NGO get involved, they may encourage and assist her in filing a case against you in Philippine Court. With a child support order in hand; she can inform the police when you return for your next sexual rampage with the Filipina fuck monsters. The police will happily throw you in jail until you pay up. If you are particularly uncooperative or belligerent during the arrest, they may decide to hand you over to BI for deportation and blacklisting as an undesirable sex tourist. She must know your personal details to make this happen though, and most girls fuck so many different foreign mongers and local trike driver boyfriends that they have no clue who filled them up with the winning load.

In the event that you are the jackpot winner of the pregnancy lottery and decide to volunteer support, be aware that no matter the amount of money you send, it will never be enough for the girl and her family. They will always ask for more. There will always be reasons why the child needs more money. When you fail to send more money, the girl will call you a cheap bastard and tell you that your baby will suffer. At some point, you may decide like many other mongers that they are better off without your involvement.

[QUOTE=Hootas;2091710]Thanks for the feedback. I went ahead and ordered up "the Peace of Mind" STD panel which is setting me back $250. Got to do what I got to do. Keeping the fingers crossed.

Interesting thing that you also bring up the paternity testing. What are the woman's rights if you get a Filipina pregnant? Does she have the legal rights to get financial support if you are the true father? If so, does it vary from country to country? For instance, maybe some countries cooperate with the Philippines in enforcing financial support whereas others may turn a blind eye. Reading back some of the threads and searching via Google was not very conclusive.

The reason why I ask is because the regular I was seeing recently got pregnant by one of her customers. A real shame because this girl is already struggling to support one baby, herself, and her extended family. Now here comes another. I don't think her Korean customer is taking a position of providing her with support which I personally think is a cold move.

Bottom line: Is getting a Filipina pregnant simply a matter of dealing with your conscience or does this bring about legally-backed financial obligations as well?

Hootas.[/QUOTE]Considering having a baby or babies out of wedlock is rampant in Philippines, girls who fuck foreigners is minuscule percentage. Most get pregnant from Philippine boys. Even in AC.

Unless the girls had monogamous relationship with a visiting foreigner they would not know who fathered her child. Even if the girl knows it will be an uphill battle costing lots of money to establish paternity. Besides there is no guarantee that any child support is forthcoming.

Everything starts with a dna test. For that to happen parties should be willing and sign papers. I met an American expat who lives in Angeles. He was trying to get his wife and a very pretty baby girl USA citizenship. He said at that time even after dna proved he fathered the child there were many interviews an the embassy denied visa. So he went and filed in Guam because he is ex military. Denied again after interviews. When I talked to him he was still trying. So at least trying to collect child support from an American father is impossible unless the alleged father is willing. Do not if it is easier with other countries.

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2092822]Your girl most likely made a unilateral decision to become impregnated with the Korean customer's sperms as she thinks he is a handsome man and she wanted a cute Korean baby who will grow up to be a big star in the telenovelas. Any child support from the Korean monger was an afterthought. She already had a child before so she was well acquainted with the process. She knew that letting the Korean monger bareback her pussy and squirt his load inside with impunity would result in a little bastard. Harden up and do not let the girls draw you into their self-imposed tragedies.[/QUOTE]Interesting feedback and will keep in mind for future endeavors. At the present time, I'm simply pissed because the situation impacted my ability to have the ultimate amount of fun with the gal. Do I believe she got impregnated for the reason you list. My answer is 'no'. But at the same time, I have no clue why she got into the situation she is in right now. She has one baby that she is already supporting, aborted 2 others, and now comes a fourth (or second). Simply defies all logic and ability to learn from mistakes.

But based on reading past reports, I have learned to accept that the Filipina perspective is much different than my western perspective. So I simply say 'whatever. Time to move onto the next honey'.

Hootas.

The total number of new HIV infections in the Philippines increased by 140 percent from 2010 to 2016, making it the fastest growing HIV epidemic in Asia and the Pacific region, according to the Philippine Department of Health (DOH) and UNAIDS, the United Nations agency on HIV and AIDS.

Some 10,500 HIV cases were reported in 2016 - up from 4,300 in 2010. Based on the current trend, the DOH estimates there could be 142,400 people infected by HIV by 2022. The DOH has identified more than 100 cities where about 80 percent of new HIV infections are clustered.

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2140844]Some 10,500 HIV cases were reported in 2016 - up from 4,300 in 2010. Based on the current trend, the DOH estimates there could be 142,400 people infected by HIV by 2022. The DOH has identified more than 100 cities where about 80 percent of new HIV infections are clustered.[/QUOTE]Perhaps we should be reassured by these numbers. 2022 population for the Philippines is estimated at 111,538,333. If the 142,400 number is to be believed, this is a rate of .0012. This means that just slightly more than one tenth of one percent of Filipinos will be positive for HIV in 2022. The current HIV rate in the United States is .003, so roughly three times this projected 2022 rate for the Philippines. Armed with these data, perhaps we should be promoting a mass exodus from the states to the Philippines.

The idea that new cases are clustered especially in about 100 cities is not particularly informative. The clustering could simply be a function of population: higher numbers of new cases are most likely to arise in more populous cities. This clustering is significant only if they have first controlled for population in their analyses. Furthermore, since the Philippines also reports that new cases are particularly prevalent among intravenous drug users and men who have sex with men, this further contributes to clustering new cases in population centers. Simply put, men looking for same-sex partners and readily available drugs are likely to move to population centers to find what they're looking for.

There is also a likely problem in data collection. Health statistics are probably more accurate in some communities than others; the accuracy of data depends on the skills of those gathering the data and the precision of their calculations. I have been exposed to data gathering and analysis in another arena of Philippine life, and I am flabbergasted by the imprecision of their methods. I love Filipinos, so this is not a knock on the people, but as some of our well-informed members have pointed out, the quality of education in the Philppines has a lot of room for improvement. Given that the quality of higher education is probably related to city size, we would expect the skills of data analysts will be better in the population centers.

Whenever there is an upward trend in data such as these, there is also the possibility that much of the change is due to better (or at least different) data collection rather than an actual change in the incidence of HIV. Making it easier for people to be tested or to report HIV, educating health care professionals about detecting and reporting HIV in their patients, and focusing local health offices on collecting data all make a difference in trend lines.

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2140844]The total number of new HIV infections in the Philippines increased by 140 percent from 2010 to 2016, making it the fastest growing HIV epidemic in Asia and the Pacific region, according to the Philippine Department of Health (DOH) and UNAIDS, the United Nations agency on HIV and AIDS.

Some 10,500 HIV cases were reported in 2016 - up from 4,300 in 2010. Based on the current trend, the DOH estimates there could be 142,400 people infected by HIV by 2022. The DOH has identified more than 100 cities where about 80 percent of new HIV infections are clustered.[/QUOTE]Do you have a link for that report? I am interested in seeing if there is a breakdown for new HIV cases acquired through tainted blood transfusion/needle sharing vs through sexual activity, further breakdown for females acquiring it sexually vs males acquiring it sexually, further breakdown for specific sexual activity transmitting it such as unprotected receptive anal vs unprotected receptive vaginal/oral sex, further breakdown still for men acquiring it from unprotected vaginal/oral sex vs unprotected receptive anal sex, co-factors such as large open genital sores, etc.

If the breakdown is similar to other reports, the largest method of transmission by far in number and/or percentages would be through tainted blood transfusion/needle sharing, followed by unprotected receptive anal sex, followed by a distant third through unprotected receptive vaginal sex, with virtually all other sexual activities being so small as to be statistically insignificant. If they encountered so much as one foreign punter who can be proven conclusively to have acquired HIV from unprotected vaginal/oral sex or even unprotected penetrative anal sex with a P4P lady without him having an obvious co-factor involved like a large open sore on his penis at the time he would likely be highlighted as the rare star of stars in these HIV transmission studies, such a celebrity for the cause of cautionary HIV transmission tales we might already know him by name.

Why is catching the clap / super-clap such a big deal? Well, gonorrhoea significantly increases the likelihood of catching or spreading the AIDS, a five fold increase in the spread of the virus. This increased efficiency in transmission of HIV is due to the recruitment of inflammatory cells to the mucosal surface during a about of the clap. These inflammatory cells are the same phagocytic and CD4+ T cells that HIV attacks to invade the body, increasing the odds of catching HIV. In fact, the viral load in the cum of HIV positive gonococcal-infected men is up to eight times that of HIV positive men without gonorrhoea. This means that a monger infected with a combination of the AIDS and gonorrhoea is extremely efficient at spreading the AIDS to the girls he inseminates, and to fellow mongers who fuck the same girls unknowingly marinating their cocks in the remnants of his high viral load cream pies deposited in the pussies.

What is the "super-clap" or untreatable gonorrhea? Super-clap is a strain of multidrug-resistant gonococcal bacteria that has rendered all treatments useless including penicillins, tetracyclines, quinolones, and cephalosporin antibiotic groups. In other words, super-clap loves your dick long, long time!

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2141334]Do you have a link for that report? I am interested in seeing if there is a breakdown for new HIV cases acquired through tainted blood transfusion/needle sharing vs through sexual activity, further breakdown for females acquiring it sexually vs males acquiring it sexually, further breakdown for specific sexual activity transmitting it such as unprotected receptive anal vs unprotected receptive vaginal/oral sex, further breakdown still for men acquiring it from unprotected vaginal/oral sex vs unprotected receptive anal sex, co-factors such as large open genital sores, etc.

If the breakdown is similar to other reports, the largest method of transmission by far in number and/or percentages would be through tainted blood transfusion/needle sharing, followed by unprotected receptive anal sex, followed by a distant third through unprotected receptive vaginal sex, with virtually all other sexual activities being so small as to be statistically insignificant. If they encountered so much as one foreign punter who can be proven conclusively to have acquired HIV from unprotected vaginal/oral sex or even unprotected penetrative anal sex with a P4P lady without him having an obvious co-factor involved like a large open sore on his penis at the time he would likely be highlighted as the rare star of stars in these HIV transmission studies, such a celebrity for the cause of cautionary HIV transmission tales we might already know him by name.[/QUOTE]One excellent source of real facts (other than poorly informed mongers) is the CDC page. [URL]https://www.cdc.gov/globalhivtb/where-we-work/philippines/philippines.html[/URL].

6,400 Estimated new HIV infections (2014).

36,000 People living with HIV (2014).

< 0. 1% Estimated HIV prevalence among adults 1549 Years (2014).

< 500 Estimated AIDS-related deaths (2014).

[QUOTE=BrainDrain;2161526]One excellent source of real facts (other than poorly informed mongers) is the CDC page. [URL]https://www.cdc.gov/globalhivtb/where-we-work/philippines/philippines.html[/URL].

6,400 Estimated new HIV infections (2014).

36,000 People living with HIV (2014).

< 0. 1% Estimated HIV prevalence among adults 1549 Years (2014).

< 500 Estimated AIDS-related deaths (2014).[/QUOTE]The CDC would be one of the better sources for data on HIV. However, I don't see anything on that page or the link that accompanies those stats that provides the breakdowns I mentioned. For example, how many of those 6,400 Estimated new HIV infections in 2014 were among needle-sharing drug users, men who have sex with men, women who have sex with men, etc. Maybe that info is in that website somewhere. But it looks like too much work for me to start digging.

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2161303]
What is the "super-clap" or untreatable gonorrhea? Super-clap is a strain of multidrug-resistant gonococcal bacteria that has rendered all treatments useless including penicillins, tetracyclines, quinolones, and cephalosporin antibiotic groups. In other words, super-clap loves your dick long, long time![/QUOTE]"untreatable" and "rendered all treatments useless" are terms that don't appear in the latest report I have seen regarding How A Man Caught The World's Strongest Super Gonorrhea To Date. Instead, it states that it was only found to be resistant to the two most commonly used antibiotic treatments but was susceptible to a third treatment already on the market:

[URL]https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2018/03/28/how-a-man-caught-the-worlds-strongest-super-gonorrhea-to-date/[/URL]#7 ba1 c3 fc19 c5.

[QUOTE]The bacteria turned out to be resistant to the standard antibiotics for gonorrhea, azithromycin and ceftriaxone, and was susceptible only to spectinomycin.[/QUOTE]

"There is a drug to keep AIDS in check and a new antibiotic for Super-clap" is exactly what the fellas in the boardrooms at Big Pharma Inc. Want to hear, as they can charge $100,000 USD for a course of treatment for whatever ails your cock. Not a big deal if your country offers 100% government paid socialized medicine. Curing an infected cock with Super-clap may not be so enjoyable in countries where healthcare is not that affordable even with insurance coverage. Expect premiums to go up once they discover that you are a sex tourist and caught a dose of Super-clap in Southeast Asia raw dogging street meat.

Anything is potentially curable or manageable with unlimited financial and medical resources. If one has several years to survive on a wait list for a donor, even a cock and balls transplant is possible. Nevertheless, would you want one? Who wants AIDS just because there is a pill to manage it?

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2161826]"untreatable" and "rendered all treatments useless" are terms that don't appear in the latest report I have seen regarding How A Man Caught The World's Strongest Super Gonorrhea To Date. Instead, it states that it was only found to be resistant to the two most commonly used antibiotic treatments but was susceptible to a third treatment already on the market:

[URL]https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2018/03/28/how-a-man-caught-the-worlds-strongest-super-gonorrhea-to-date/[/URL]#7 ba1 c3 fc19 c5.[/QUOTE]It's good that we are talking about facts and figures and legitimate sources of information. It is very liberating.

The other stats you want are in the CDC site.

BD.

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2161932]"There is a drug to keep AIDS in check and a new antibiotic for Super-clap" is exactly what the fellas in the boardrooms at Big Pharma Inc. Want to hear, as they can charge $100,000 USD for a course of treatment for whatever ails your cock. Not a big deal if your country offers 100% government paid socialized medicine. Curing an infected cock with Super-clap may not be so enjoyable in countries where healthcare is not that affordable even with insurance coverage. Expect premiums to go up once they discover that you are a sex tourist and caught a dose of Super-clap in Southeast Asia raw dogging street meat.

Anything is potentially curable or manageable with unlimited financial and medical resources. If one has several years to survive on a wait list for a donor, even a cock and balls transplant is possible. Nevertheless, would you want one? Who wants AIDS just because there is a pill to manage it?[/QUOTE]As long as you are open to the distinct possibility that money is a motivator behind these issues, it might be worth noting that this First-Ever Case of Antibiotic Resistant Superbug just happened to come along oh so coincidentally at the very moment of "dramatic cuts that have been delivered to the public health budget," Dr. Williams told BBC News and when public health officials are actively pushing for, yep, more money.

[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/super-gonorrhea-man-first-ever-201826422.html[/URL]

I'm back in the Philippines after many years and have a couple of girlfriends to spend time with and travel.

At the end of it, I want to get checked for STD's, and get the results before I go back to the US.

Whats the best, less troublesome, less embarassing way.

Any recommendations for Makati Thanks.

[QUOTE=IMPunter;2168394]I'm back in the Philippines after many years and have a couple of girlfriends to spend time with and travel.

At the end of it, I want to get checked for STD's, and get the results before I go back to the US.

Whats the best, less troublesome, less embarassing way.

Any recommendations for Makati Thanks.[/QUOTE]I too am interested in this information. Except I would like to do it including my preferred girl before we start getting intimate.

Is Research Institute for Tropical Medicine a good place for this?

Pradoe.

[QUOTE=Pradoe;2168413]I too am interested in this information. Except I would like to do it including my preferred girl before we start getting intimate.

Is Research Institute for Tropical Medicine a good place for this?

Pradoe.[/QUOTE]If I remember the name right, there is Makati Medical Clinic somewhere in Makati that has 50+ doctors. Just go in to the first floor reception and tell them you to do a STD test. They will direct you to the available staff.

[QUOTE=Pradoe;2168413]I too am interested in this information. Except I would like to do it including my preferred girl before we start getting intimate.

Is Research Institute for Tropical Medicine a good place for this?

Pradoe.[/QUOTE]Please report back with report.

Where did you get the test done at?

Cost?

Time frame?

Type of test?

For which STD?

Any treatment?

Cost of treatment?

Bad news, rubber-less shaggers: There's a new strain of super gonorrhea afoot in Britain, and it's heading your way.

As it's evolved, this strain of the sexually transmitted disease informally known as "the clap" has become resistant to the drugs previously used to combat it. Following an outbreak of this super gonorrhea in the north of England at the end of last year, there are now fears it's spreading across the country, with cases popping up in the West Midlands and the South East, according to Public Health England (PHE).

While the term "super gonorrhoea" might, at surface level, sound quite funny, there's a much darker side to this story. The drug-resistant STD is indicative of other bacterias becoming resistant to treatments problem that Chief Medical Officer Dame Sally Davies says is as bad as the threat of terrorism. George Osborne also warns that antibiotic-resistant diseases could be the biggest killer in the world in 30 years. Gonorrhoea can also damage the womb to the point of infertility, which is obviously very worrying when it comes to these increasingly untreatable strains.

The drugs used to treat the disease, a jab of ceftriaxone and a pill of azithromycin, are losing ground to the STD, with the former now the only one that still works.

Away from the whole super-strain news, the number of people in the UK diagnosed with gonorrhea has more than doubled in the past few years, making it second only to chlamydia as the top sex disease of choice. And it's not only the clap that's on the rise; reported cases of syphilis rose by 63 percent between 2010 and 2014, according to PHE.

[URL]https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/4wbzjb/super-gonorrhoea-coming-for-us-all[/URL]

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2169877]Bad news, rubber-less shaggers: There's a new strain of super gonorrhea afoot in Britain, and it's heading your way.
[URL]https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/4wbzjb/super-gonorrhoea-coming-for-us-all[/URL][/QUOTE]"The drugs used to treat the disease, a jab of ceftriaxone and a pill of azithromycin, are losing ground to the STD, [B]with the former now the only one that still works[/B]."

Oh, thank goodness. For a moment there I was concerned that nothing on the market was working to combat this strain. But, according to this article, a drug that is already on the market still works.

Contrary to popular belief when a bar girl comes up positive for AIDS, she does not stop working at the bar and Social Hygiene does not inform the bar. Bar girls can continue working and giving bareback mongers doses of whatever they happen to carry at the time. According to a news report based on interviews with Dr. Teresita Esguerra, chief of Angeles City Social Hygiene Center:

Esguerra cited limitations provided by Republic Act 8524 of the Philippine National AIDS Law that prevent health authorities from tracking down probable sources of HIV in the city's foreign community.

"We also cannot control the activities of the HIV patients. We cannot forbid them to return to the bars to work, neither can we warn the bars on the health of the patients," she said.

Esguerra and Velasco said attempts to provide the patients with other forms of livelihood have failed.

"The cash given them just vanishes. It seems that their experience in bars has developed an outlook for easy money," Velasco said.

[URL]https://www.philstar.com/nation/2011/01/05/644916/10-new-suspected-hiv-cases-reported-angeles-city[/URL]

So I've been in Cebu most of the past year. And had a lot of unprotected sex with girls here. I'm pretty sure I got something pretty nasty, or actually more like a myriad of nasty somethings, from this one young girl with perfect tits that was coming by regularly for a while. It started with an ugly swelling around the shaft, glans and head of my penis and some tiny lesions that looked like small scabs. I went to a doctor. He gave me a shot of ceftriaxone in my arm (super painful) and a prescription for azithromycin. I took 1 g of azithromycin.

The swelling went away, but around the same time I noticed an itchiness, urethral inflammation, a mild milky discharge, and a minor stabbing pain inside my cock. I took another gram of azithromycin and I stopped having sex with anyone.

That was 2 months ago. The symptoms abated somewhat. The pain went away. But the itchiness, inflammation and discharge never completely disappeared. I saw a different doc. He gave me another shot of ceftriaxone in the arm and a prescription for doxycycline. I can't remember now but I think I might have only gotten a week of doxy when you're supposed to take it for 15 days, maybe that was my mistake. But anyway symptoms went away for about 5 days then came back. Doc gave me another gram of azithromycin.

I went to see an infectious disease specialist. She ordered a lot of expensive tests. I still haven't gone for a gene based urinalysis which she said would be the best way to detect chlamydia because it costs 8000 pesos here. But I had two swabs and gram stain tests with culture and sensitivity studies. The first was all negative the 2nd found some bacteria but the doc said that it was the most common bacteria normally found on human skin and so probably they just scraped it off the inside of my dick. I had an HIV and syphilis screen, negative. Hep screen negative. Tested for diabetes, my thyroid, all normal.

When I was at the doc she wanted to see the discharge but it's so minor, usually only noticeable in the mornings or if I haven't taken a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] in a long while, that she couldn't see anything. And she acted like I was just imagining things. But I know something is still wrong. I still have the ithiness, the inflammation, and the discharge.

She told me if I went and got the expensive urinalysis and they found chlamydia they would just prescribe me more azithromycin. But what would be the point of that when I've taken it 3 times already. She said it could be reinfection. But I haven't had sex in 2 months. She doesn't think it's antibiotic resistant chlamydia because she hasn't seen cases in the Philippines before, which just seems ignorant to me since of course there are lots of sex tourists here bringing all sorts of things.

Has anyone here experienced this? Did you find any treatment that worked? I read online a story of some woman with chlamydia that was resistant to azithromycin and she treated it with a combination of 3 different antibiotics but she doesn't give the doses.

[QUOTE=Theystolemyname;2192687]That was 2 months ago. The symptoms abated somewhat. The pain went away. But the itchiness, inflammation and discharge never completely disappeared. I saw a different doc. He gave me another shot of ceftriaxone in the arm and a prescription for doxycycline. I can't remember now but I think I might have only gotten a week of doxy when you're supposed to take it for 15 days, maybe that was my mistake. But anyway symptoms went away for about 5 days then came back. Doc gave me another gram of azithromycin.

I went to see an infectious disease specialist. She ordered a lot of expensive tests. I still haven't gone for a gene based urinalysis which she said would be the best way to detect chlamydia because it costs 8000 pesos here. But I had two swabs and gram stain tests with culture and sensitivity studies. The first was all negative the 2nd found some bacteria but the doc said that it was the most common bacteria normally found on human skin and so probably they just scraped it off the inside of my dick. I had an HIV and syphilis screen, negative. Hep screen negative..[/QUOTE]While I have not this have you visited Chong Hua as this is the only hospital I would go to in Cebu. Another ISGer got a nasty dose last year and I told him same. He did and the doctors cured it.

Now the fact that they seem only give you a small doe is an issue I faced as I had a nasty cold, got 3 days not 7 went back and got 3 more- totally stupid when I know I needed more. Now my doctor overseas prescribes me certain medicines (due my health conditions).

A girl I know has a persistent yeast infection not from sex. But every time she goes to a cheaper hospital such as Sotto or Cebu Doctors she is given 3-4 days meds at most when basic research tells you that 7 days is the minimum.

If you have been to Chong Hua please PM me. If not then don't go to the main reception go to 'Art's' Centre' (something like that) as that is where you need to be for this. But be prepared to wait as at times there is a queue (so get there very early) and sometime the doctors don't run up.

PM if you need any more info.

[QUOTE=Theystolemyname;2192687]So I've been in Cebu most of the past year. And had a lot of unprotected sex with girls here. I'm pretty sure I got something pretty nasty, or actually more like a myriad of nasty somethings, from this one young girl with perfect tits that was coming by regularly for a while. It started with an ugly swelling around the shaft, glans and head of my penis and some tiny lesions that looked like small scabs. I went to a doctor. He gave me a shot of ceftriaxone in my arm (super painful) and a prescription for azithromycin. I took 1 g of azithromycin.

The swelling went away, but around the same time I noticed an itchiness, urethral inflammation, a mild milky discharge, and a minor stabbing pain inside my cock. I took another gram of azithromycin and I stopped having sex with anyone.

That was 2 months ago. The symptoms abated somewhat. The pain went away. But the itchiness, inflammation and discharge never completely disappeared. I saw a different doc. He gave me another shot of ceftriaxone in the arm and a prescription for doxycycline. I can't remember now but I think I might have only gotten a week of doxy when you're supposed to take it for 15 days, maybe that was my mistake. But anyway symptoms went away for about 5 days then came back. Doc gave me another gram of azithromycin.

I went to see an infectious disease specialist. She ordered a lot of expensive tests. I still haven't gone for a gene based urinalysis which she said would be the best way to detect chlamydia because it costs 8000 pesos here. But I had two swabs and gram stain tests with culture and sensitivity studies. The first was all negative the 2nd found some bacteria but the doc said that it was the most common bacteria normally found on human skin and so probably they just scraped it off the inside of my dick. I had an HIV and syphilis screen, negative. Hep screen negative..[/QUOTE]Well, that is one terrible dose of chlamydia or whatever STD (s) it is that the doctors have tried in vain to cleanse from your dick! Based on your account of the matter, it appears to be a truly incurable dose of highly aggressive multi-drug resistant chlamydia. Perhaps, you can tell us a bit more about young Miss Perfect Tits, as you were fucking her bareback frequently and believe she is the one who gave your dick this demonic gift that you cannot rid yourself of.

Do you have any idea who else she was fucking for pesos? If her clientele were other foreign mongers, OFWs, or seamen, that nasty dose of chlamydia could have come from any corner of the globe. With so many mongers dropping loads in Cebu, it could be an exotic variety of STD recently imported or an entirely new strain of chlamydia brewed in Miss P. Tits' pussy with a mutation making it invulnerable to all of the antibiotics on the market. You may need to return to the West for treatment with one of the highly restricted last-ditch antibiotics.

Perhaps, you need to check into hospital and undergo an intravenous course of antibiotics. Since the infection went away and returned without further bareback fucking of girls for two months, it appears that it took up residence in your seminal vesicles. Hence, your balls are acting as a reservoir for the pathogens. During your next round of antibiotic treatment, you must beat your dick 3 to 6 times a day to flush out your seminal vesicles as much as possible. Drink at least 8 glasses of water for proper hydration each day, it will help build volume to ejaculate the infectious jizz.

It makes sense that you did not fuck and spread your STDs for two months, but you needed to beat your dick as if it stole your money to help expel whatever made its way into your prick from that bad young Cebuana pussy. Think of it as giving your penis a purge!

The first doctor fucked you up when he gave you the jab without sending you to the lab to have your STDs analyzed. Based on the amount of P4P you fucked raw dog, tests were essential to determine just what combination of STDs were present to plan an effective course of treatment. Unfortunately, for you, the doctor chose to treat your dick for the most common STDs based solely on symptoms. That only complicated matters because one of them was a multi-drug resistant strain, and now you have to pay more to work backwards sorting it out because of the initial blind treatment.

Meanwhile, Miss P. Tits is out there spreading that incurable chlamydia around to other bareback mongers and trike driver boyfriends, meaning it is going to show in up in other pussies in Cebu and beyond. Many mongers fly into Cebu to drop loads before moving on to AC or Manila, so we can expect it to show up in the form of more swollen, itchy, drippy, scabby cocks in those locations. If you manage to get it sorted out, report on how you knocked it out.

Any info that will help other fellas steer clear of Miss P. Tits and her box with unforgettable gifts is much appreciated. Hopefully, Wicked Rodger's medical referral gets you sorted out. Walking around with a dick that is itching on the inside for two months would drive most men insane trying to scratch that itch.

T,

I would first follow WR's directions.

If 3 doctors gave you the same advice, medication you could try another. You can try an Urologist specialist or another Internal Medicine or Tropical specialist and get a full STD panel. A post or pre treatment test is a better way to see what is really ailing you. Take pictures and you can take you own sample to show them that it is really there. Just use a clean glass jar. I would also wash your underwear in hot water and use bleach.

I prefer to see US doctors or US trained. There is a medical evacuation clinic in Manila that might have some on staff. Also, it sounds like you travel. In your home country there are probably specialist clinics dealing with STDs. Good luck. Use a wrapper, my 2 cents.

[QUOTE=Theystolemyname;2192687]So I've been in Cebu most of the past year. And had a lot of unprotected sex with girls here.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=WickedRoger;2192749]If you have been to Chong Hua please PM me. If not then don't go to the main reception go to 'Art's' Centre' (something like that) as that is where you need to be for this. But be prepared to wait as at times there is a queue (so get there very early) and sometime the doctors don't run up.

PM if you need any more info.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Theystolemyname;2192687]Has anyone here experienced this? Did you find any treatment that worked? I read online a story of some woman with chlamydia that was resistant to azithromycin and she treated it with a combination of 3 different antibiotics but she doesn't give the doses.[/QUOTE]A proper diagnosis determines if the bacterium is gram negative or gram positive (or multi-strain) and matches the antibiotic to the pathogen (insofar as it's possible). At any rate, how soon you anticipate returning to rolling barebacking fun times? (just wondering).

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2192833]You may need to return to the West for treatment with one of the highly restricted last-ditch antibiotics.

Perhaps, you need to check into hospital and undergo an intravenous course of antibiotics.
The first doctor fucked you up when he gave you the jab without sending you to the lab to have your STDs analyzed. Based on the amount of P4P you fucked raw dog, tests were essential to determine just what combination of STDs were present to plan an effective course of treatment. Unfortunately, for you, the doctor chose to treat your dick for the most common STDs based solely on symptoms. That only complicated matters because one of them was a multi-drug resistant strain, and now you have to pay more to work backwards sorting it out because of the initial blind treatment.

Any info that will help other fellas steer clear of Miss P. Tits and her box with unforgettable gifts is much appreciated. Hopefully, Wicked Rodger's medical referral gets you sorted out. Walking around with a dick that is itching on the inside for two months would drive most men insane trying to scratch that itch.[/QUOTE]If Chong Hua advice does not help go home or Bangkok as the hospitals there are good. Many have done that also as the standard is generally much better but CH is a good hospital despite looking chaotic at times.

To quote a doctor friend " some of the Asian STDs have claw, long ones".

Lets us know how you get along either on the board or PM.

I did indeed go to Chong Hua for one round of tests. (after Hi-Precision came up with nothing) And they recommended me to the infectious disease doc I'm seeing as she's apparently one of the five best in Cebu.

I'm sure whatever I've got is all over the place. There was some French guy sitting next to me in the waiting room 2 months ago when this started, the whole time flipping through his Tinder matches. He went in before me and the doc said he had the exact same thing but he didn't appear to be slowing down.

As for the girl with the perfect tits, very poor, spoke almost no English. Met her and her friends when they were sitting outside the 7-11 at Mango. She would show up at my hotel unannounced, sometimes with friends she brought along, until I told her to stop doing that. She kept pressuring me to see her again but I told her that I thought I caught something from her and she should get checked out. I don't know if she understood, major language barrier. She persisted in trying to see me. I told her I had something and was trying to get better and had sworn off pussy in the meantime. She didn't like this answer and blocked me so I don't know what she's up to. She really did have amazing tits. Oh well.

The infectious disease doc told me I should just wait and see. Let my healthy flora return to normal, see if the symptoms go away. This is frustrating, but for now that's what I'm doing. Symptoms are very very mild, don't seem to be getting better or worse. The doc said the mild discharge could just be seminal fluid, but I've never had that before. Never had wet dreams. Never had pre-cum. And I'm almost 40. Plus it doesn't explain the itchiness or inflammation but those symptoms are mild, too.

Oh, also, I looked it up on the CDC and there are actually 2 different recommended treatments using doxycycline- one lasts 7 days and one lasts 15. So I guess what I did was at least within guidelines.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2192972]A proper diagnosis determines if the bacterium is gram negative or gram positive (or multi-strain) and matches the antibiotic to the pathogen (insofar as it's possible). At any rate, how soon you anticipate returning to rolling barebacking fun times? (just wondering).[/QUOTE]With a cock that has stabbing pains and itchiness on the inside, and oozes Elmer's wood glue every morning, it is going to be quite a while before the poor fella goes raw dog on a feral pussy again. The last one was rabid, and his prick is still suffering the effects of the long sharp claws and fangs that were lurking inside that sweet-looking pussy hole. The last thing he needs now is a double dose of that plague from another innocent-looking Cebuana alley cat. He is still trying to sort out the first dose that is gnawing on the insides of his dick. He probably is not so eager to stick his skinless cod back into the sizzling frying pan for another taste. LOL!

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2193106]Many advice here, some are good and one with syphiliic damaged brain cells. [/QUOTE]I would call this "smart bomb" accuracy. ROTFLMAO.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2193106]Stolennameman.

Get a few different Doctor's opinions and tests done and don't hesitate. Many advice here, some are good and one with syphiliic damaged brain cells. Best to get professional medical help on this.

One question, are you diabetic or border line? If so I have heard it might hinder recovery.[/QUOTE]One of the many things I was tested for was diabetes. I am not diabetic. Seem to be in perfect health from all the tests I had done.

[QUOTE=Theystolemyname;2193048]I did indeed go to Chong Hua for one round of tests. (after Hi-Precision came up with nothing) And they recommended me to the infectious disease doc I'm seeing as she's apparently one of the five best in Cebu.

I'm sure whatever I've got is all over the place. There was some French guy sitting next to me in the waiting room 2 months ago when this started, the whole time flipping through his Tinder matches. He went in before me and the doc said he had the exact same thing but he didn't appear to be slowing down.


Oh, also, I looked it up on the CDC and there are actually 2 different recommended treatments using doxycycline- one lasts 7 days and one lasts 15. So I guess what I did was at least within guidelines.[/QUOTE]You are the right place and the lady etc is correct as a few girls I know in the past have been there with a scare (one know but is really nasty yeast infection bit still uncomfortable etc and worrying for her).

And yes 2 type but you may need tell the doctor you know there a re 2 types and ask which one. Prompting of Phil doctors can help at times LOL.

As for the French. We blame the pinoys for that behaviour but some of us are as bad or worse then them. And he is French so what do you expect as Bushes alluded to LOL.

[QUOTE=Theystolemyname;2193245]One of the many things I was tested for was diabetes. I am not diabetic. Seem to be in perfect health from all the tests I had done.[/QUOTE]Having been in this situation before I sympathise with you. The good news is if the discharge is now less, it may be on the way out. It's funny how when a question like this pops up everybody weighs in with opinions.

Tests are always the first step, the docter takes a swab or you do a "first catch", test. That is, what (the politically correct word police won't let me put down the word for going to the toilet), you first let go after you wake up in the morning. Get that through the labs and you are at a starting point as you can see what you are dealing with.

You would be surprised how often it is something else. But! Your symptoms sound disconcerting. I would recommend the tests. You could probably fly to Singapore and get checked there for less than the cost and risk of a dodgy test in Phils. Countries like Singapore take public health very seriously and would certainly have a comprehensive response if you indeed have something. Sometimes the discharge is just dead DNA, so the test will detect chlamydia but you have already killed it if you have been eating azithro.

The other aspect of STD's is that of your mental health, you can feel like a total loser and having to lay off sex can drive you double crazy. Relax!, those bacteria were around way before you got here. Julias Ceaser died of syphilis. Its not so bad, you will get better if not already thanks to modern medicine and you are still a good guy. It's just a shame your dick is all fucked up.

OS loves BB and will do it any chance he gets and does it an awful lot. Here's some hard won tips.

The bacteria need an opportunity to exit her infected cesspit of a snatch to your big thing. So.

1 Avoid coming inside if you can, pull out. She will thank you for it too.

2 if you drink lots of water and after sex you can flush out the little fellows as they are trying to get in.

3 Lastly, get yourself a little bottle of betadine soap and wash liberally afterwards. Maybe OS has been lucky all these years but having had some wild BB sessions with multiple multiple girls, the times he has caught a STD are not that many and usually after digressing from the above rules.

Hope that helps and get well soon.

Regards.

OS.

[QUOTE=Theystolemyname;2193245]One of the many things I was tested for was diabetes. I am not diabetic. Seem to be in perfect health from all the tests I had done.[/QUOTE]When I was married years ago my then wife would pass on her yeast infections to me. Just a thought you might test for it.

[QUOTE=SoapySmith;2193122].... But here's a rule of thumb I have learned from working in many different kinds of organizations: assume incompetence before malevolence. Malevolent conspiratorial actions require skills and coordination; incompetence requires neither of these.

I....[/QUOTE]Something I have also always believed.

This is a great way of putting it Soapy, I think I'll "borrow" this quote and use it myself LOL.

[QUOTE=OffshoreSwell;2193313]Having been in this situation before I sympathise with you. The good news is if the discharge is now less, it may be on the way out.

.....[/QUOTE]I was under the impression that some STD's went asymptomatic after a period of time, the person can still be a carrier and spread the disease but show no symptoms.

[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2193455]I was under the impression that some STD's went asymptomatic after a period of time, the person can still be a carrier and spread the disease but show no symptoms.[/QUOTE]I think that's correct, there's just so much information out there when you search it. My experience is I think I have a STD. Eat the Azithro, get tested almost immediately, some tests have come back negative. Wonder if I am going crazy. (syphilis). Start the loop again ha ha.

A proper test should take several days, if they actually do the labs.

[QUOTE=Theystolemyname;2193048]I did indeed go to Chong Hua for one round of tests. (after Hi-Precision came up with nothing)[/QUOTE][QUOTE=OffshoreSwell;2193644] get tested almost immediately, some tests have come back negative.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Bushes;2192917]You can try an Urologist specialist[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bushes;2193668]A proper test should take several days, if they actually do the labs.[/QUOTE]Correct again! That is get tested immediately I have a discharge, have pain peeing etc etc. The results do take several days.

[QUOTE=OffshoreSwell;2193313] Julias Ceaser died of syphilis. [/QUOTE]Julius Caesar was famously stabbed to death. I point this out as your information is an criminally uninformative as all the others. This guy needs high quality tests which are cheaply available in Phils. His report is as off the wall as yours. It takes months for HIV and herpes results to come back. Posts like yours are dangerous as they give mongers the wrong read on the risks they run.

Thanks! Though I think I am not making myself totally clear. It is not unheard of for one to pay for medical tests and get made up results. No actually lab test were actually done. Like with Theranos in the US. Doing the actual lab works cost time and money for the laboratory. If it is an independent laboratory, how might it boost its profits?

If you are having questions or not getting better, have the doctor use a different laboratory or use a doctor that uses a different laboratory or both. Most hospitals have their own laboratory on site and thus tend to be a little safer, though it is no guarantee.

[QUOTE=OffshoreSwell;2193917]Correct again! That is get tested immediately I have a discharge, have pain peeing etc etc. The results do take several days.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2193982]Julius Caesar was famously stabbed to death. I point this out as your information is an criminally uninformative as all the others. This guy needs high quality tests which are cheaply available in Phils. His report is as off the wall as yours. It takes months for HIV and herpes results to come back. Posts like yours are dangerous as they give mongers the wrong read on the risks they run.[/QUOTE]Correct about Caesar, obviously. But Christopher Columbus and Napoleon Bonaparte are alleged to have died of syphilis or from arsenic or mercury treatments that were presumed antidotes. Some allege that George Washington also died from syphilis, although history books report that he died of pneumonia.

I have had tests for HIV, herpes, and other STIs completed within four days by my local county health clinic. YMMV in Cebu or anywhere else in the Philippines.

[QUOTE=Bushes;2193995] I think I am not making myself totally clear. It is not unheard of for one to pay for medical tests and get made up results. No actually lab test were actually done. Like with Theranos in the US. Doing the actual lab works cost time and money for the laboratory. If it is an independent laboratory, how might it boost its profits?[/QUOTE]A few years ago I experienced some itchy symptoms and took myself and the partner I'd been with for a couple weeks to a clinic on Mabini Street in Ermita. I should have been suspicious that there were no diplomas or licenses displayed on the walls, and that employees were smoking and snacking in the lab area. I was swabbed by a young female medical assistant who needed instructions from an older woman who appeared to run the place. After about 30 minutes the older woman took me off separately and told me I had a mild case of clap, but my partner had a very serious case of something else. She insisted my partner needed an injection--which would cost about 8000 php. I asked for alternative prescriptions that we could fill at a pharmacy. She doubled down on the need for the injection, but we left with written prescriptions, having paid only for the tests, about 250 php each.

My partner was devastated. She was crying and angry with me for humiliating her. We refrained from sex for the remaining four days I was in country. She then went to a local trusted physician and got tested again: all negative. I went to my county health clinic immediately after getting home and got tested for everything; results four days later: all negative. The clinic staff suggested I'd probably had some mild form of non-sexually transmitted urethritis or even prostatitis.

Clearly the Mabini clinic folks saw me as a rich and gullible foreigner, but they didn't get 8000 php from me. I assume that Bushes' depiction is not necessarily a rare occurrence.

I reported back in February how I tackled a dose of the clap one or more of the providers gave me.

Getting a discharge, I went into one of the BS clinics near Dau bus station. Having listened to them, I took a jeepney up to the main hospital in Angeles City where I and other happy clappies was dealt with professionally. I paid my dues and took my prescription to several pharmacists. I took double the recommended dose for 10 days.

After the 10 days, I took myself into a clap clinic in London attached to a major hospital. They did professional tests on me, something I had not time for in Angeles. I had to return three months later to be sure there was no HIV or herpes infection. According to the British staff at the acclaimed clinic, the follow up tests were necessary. They were also free.

I have no doubt there are many sham or cut price places about but I did not use them. The overall cost of the hospital and antibiotics was negligible for me but I am sure way out of the price range of the hookers who live more or less hand to mouth.

I am posting this as fake news is very dangerous on this topic. It costs peanuts to get tested, cured (if possible) etc. Bonking in Angeles is a clap shoot. All fake news does not help. Although I have been relatively fortunate clap wise in my long mongering career, I know there are many infected bullets out there. I have done some have bonking over the last few weeks and almost all the hookers have no concept or concern about STIs. There were exceptions, one of whom had an aunt a nurse and gave her the low down.

European medics regard bonking SE Asian hookers as high risk and they specifically ask if you have been with one or more providers. Why would that be?

[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2194159]I reported back in February how I tackled a dose of the clap one or more of the providers gave me.

Getting a discharge, I went into one of the BS clinics near Dau bus station. Having listened to them, I took a jeepney up to the main hospital in Angeles City where I and other happy clappies was dealt with professionally. I paid my dues and took my prescription to several pharmacists. I took double the recommended dose for 10 days.[/QUOTE]Agree with this and I think another comment you made in another thread about also getting the girl tested. I had a small issue in AC last year. I wet to AUF (Angeles University Foundation) in Merisol. I also took the girl on the same appointment. I did my consult with her in my presence. I thin left the room to let the doctor talk to her in private and explain things. I bought her the meds and we both took them. I cannot recall what they were.

Happy days.

PL.

PM, suggest sticking with the dosage the Doctor recommends and giving the extra dosage to the girl. There are bad consequences to taking double the dosage and bad consequences to not giving the girl a dosage. LOL

[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2194159]I paid my dues and took my prescription to several pharmacists. I took double the recommended dose for 10 days.

After the 10 days, I took myself into a clap clinic in London attached to a major hospital. They did professional tests on me, something I had not time for in Angeles. I had to return three months later to be sure there was no HIV or herpes infection. According to the British staff at the acclaimed clinic, the follow up tests were necessary.[/QUOTE]Clap Clap Clap. PL. The costs are significant to the lady so better for everyone to do it and to ensure it is done.

[QUOTE=PinaLove;2194355]I also took the girl on the same appointment. I did my consult with her in my presence. I thin left the room to let the doctor talk to her in private and explain things. I bought her the meds and we both took them. I cannot recall what they were.

Happy days.

PL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bushes;2194853]PM, suggest sticking with the dosage the Doctor recommends and giving the extra dosage to the girl. There are bad consequences to taking double the dosage and bad consequences to not giving the girl a dosage. LOL

Clap Clap Clap. PL. The costs are significant to the lady so better for everyone to do it and to ensure it is done.[/QUOTE]I bought 3 doses on one prescription and gave one of the women an entire set of pills. I did discuss condom sex with many of them. The smart ones are aware of the risks they run through clinics they attend but most don't care. One even gave away the condoms I gave her. Most of them have not even the barest of educations and that is a huge factor.

I generally don't take any pills and I am / was aware of the double dosage risk. It is a year ago since I got the clap and the only pills I have since taken are a handful of pills to stop the runs.

Bottom line is our individual actions will not change the risks they pose. I don't want any diseases but I know I am responsible if and when I get clapped again and I would take it, regretfully, as just punishment.

As always, I will try to be a good boy but I have a weakness, perhaps fatal, for putting my little head into their ATM machines and I am fully aware of the considerable risks involved. That is how Good made me.

You will be surprised at how US smart girls are sometime pretty ignorant about sex. Thank goodness they know how find the right clinic to end their problem.

Funny story. Had a girl pull out a strip of 12 condoms from the Uni health services when we met for the second time. Think she was expecting too much of me.

[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2194961]The smart ones are aware of the risks they run through clinics they attend but most don't care. One even gave away the condoms I gave her. Most of them have not even the barest of educations and that is a huge factor.[/QUOTE]

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Be careful sticking your cock in that crazy Candida infected pussy, the clumpy white discharge may cause more than an itchy yeasty cock.

One night I'm barhopping with a girl. I will call her Despacito. I did not barfine her. She just came over. At a bar, Despacito meets a friend of hers. She wants me to buy her a drink. Sometimes I say yes. Sometimes I say no. This time I say no. Then Despacito gets up and leaves. OK, no problem. It's MGTOW night for me.

So I continue on my own. I end up barfining a girl at another bar. I will call this girl Monkey. Why? Because her real first name sounded like Monkey. The bar shall remain nameless. I'm not trying to protect them. But naming the bar may spoil the fun for the rest of us.

After sex at the hotel, I go to the bathroom to take the condom off. I always inspect the outside of the condom before I take it off. Sometimes, it is spotless. Sometimes, there is white gooey stuff on it. Other times, there are thick patches of wine-red-colored blood. However, this time, there are hundreds of minuscule red spots on the outside of the condom. I am very puzzled at this. After I wash off, I go back to the bed and ask her, "Do you have menstruation?" Then she answers, "No, I have infection. " WTF. She isn't thinking. She knows she has an infection. Well, it all makes sense now because it sure did not look like menstruation to me. Then Monkey continues, "Last night, I'm barfine and the customer finger me. " Hmmm, that is very debatable.

In the morning, I do not make her stay. And she does not seem too keen on leaving either. She says she has to go to hygiene for pussy check-up and wants to stay until noon. OK, no problem. At noon, we leave the hotel. What to do? I tell her I will go with her to hygiene. As an underground investigative journalist, I feel it is my duty to follow up on her predicament down south. The hygiene clinic is located way past Wild Orchid Resort. You have to do a number of zig-zags to get there. I do not recommend that anyone do this. It was two hours of hellish waiting in the outdoor heat. I was in the shade but it was still very hot without A/C.

After two hours, Monkey gets her results. It says gonorrhea in English. That's great. Her workmates do not seem too surprised. They've probably seen it too many times. I give Monkey 100 pesos for her trike and we say goodbye.

It's almost 4 pm when I get to my hotel. I get a "Call me" text from Despacito who I have forgotten about because of all the infection nonsense. I call her and she says she is heading to my hotel now. "Sure honey, you can come now. " So it is true. The no contact rule does work.

When Despacito arrives, I tell her about Monkey's infection. Then she says, "I think she boom boom customer no condom many times. " I rest my case.

Next time I get a girl in AC, I will ask her if she has an infection. I'll make sure I'm ready for any dirty looks or punches that may land in my face.

Peace be with all.

[QUOTE=Falcon95;2354236]One night I'm barhopping with a girl. I will call her Despacito. I did not barfine her. She just came over. At a bar, Despacito meets a friend of hers. She wants me to buy her a drink. Sometimes I say yes. Sometimes I say no. This time I say no. Then Despacito gets up and leaves. OK, no problem. It's MGTOW night for me.

So I continue on my own. I end up barfining a girl at another bar. I will call this girl Monkey. Why? Because her real first name sounded like Monkey. The bar shall remain nameless. I'm not trying to protect them. But naming the bar may spoil the fun for the rest of us.

After sex at the hotel, I go to the bathroom to take the condom off. I always inspect the outside of the condom before I take it off. Sometimes, it is spotless. Sometimes, there is white gooey stuff on it. Other times, there are thick patches of wine-red-colored blood. However, this time, there are hundreds of minuscule red spots on the outside of the condom. I am very puzzled at this. After I wash off, I go back to the bed and ask her, "Do you have menstruation?" Then she answers, "No, I have infection. " WTF. She isn't thinking. She knows she has an infection. Well, it all makes sense now because it sure did not look like menstruation to me. Then Monkey continues, "Last night, I'm barfine and the customer finger me. " Hmmm, that is very debatable.

In the morning, I do not make her stay. And she does not seem too keen on leaving either. She says she has to go to hygiene for pussy check-up and wants to stay until noon. OK, no problem. At noon, we leave the hotel. What to do? I tell her I will go with her to hygiene. As an underground investigative journalist, I feel it is my duty to follow up on her predicament down south. The hygiene clinic is located way past Wild Orchid Resort. You have to do a number of zig-zags to get there. I do not recommend that anyone do this. It was two hours of hellish waiting in the outdoor heat. I was in the shade but it was still very hot without A/C.

After two hours, Monkey gets her results. It says gonorrhea in English. That's great. Her workmates do not seem too surprised. They've probably seen it too many times. I give Monkey 100 pesos for her trike and we say goodbye.

It's almost 4 pm when I get to my hotel. I get a "Call me" text from Despacito who I have forgotten about because of all the infection nonsense. I call her and she says she is heading to my hotel now. "Sure honey, you can come now. " So it is true. The no contact rule does work.

When Despacito arrives, I tell her about Monkey's infection. Then she says, "I think she boom boom customer no condom many times. " I rest my case.

Next time I get a girl in AC, I will ask her if she has an infection. I'll make sure I'm ready for any dirty looks or punches that may land in my face.

Peace be with all.[/QUOTE]I have always thought that a yellowish vaginal discharge on the condom is a sign of gonorrhea, blood a sign of menstruation but I have never observed minuscule red spots; that would freak me out. Going bareback with a girl who has blood in her vagina is very, very dangerous and I am certain you guys out there know why. Kudos to Falcon 95 as to how the situation was handled.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2354572]I have always thought that a yellowish vaginal discharge on the condom is a sign of gonorrhea, blood a sign of menstruation but I have never observed minuscule red spots; that would freak me out. Going bareback with a girl who has blood in her vagina is very, very dangerous and I am certain you guys out there know why. Kudos to Falcon 95 as to how the situation was handled.[/QUOTE]I am certainly not an expert in infectious diseases. However, the lack of yellow vaginal discharge indicates to me that she was still in her incubation period. I believe she passed (negative result) the check-up that was conducted a week earlier. So most likely, she was infected within 7 days prior and the yellow discharge appeared perhaps a day or two after the positive result. How did she know? I think she had minor discomfort down there because visibly she did not look uncomfortable.

[QUOTE=Falcon95;2354236]

So I continue on my own. I end up barfining a girl at another bar. I will call this girl Monkey. Why? Because her real first name sounded like Monkey. The bar shall remain nameless. I'm not trying to protect them. But naming the bar may spoil the fun for the rest of us.

After sex at the hotel, I go to the bathroom to take the condom off. I always inspect the outside of the condom before I take it off. Sometimes, it is spotless. Sometimes, there is white gooey stuff on it. Other times, there are thick patches of wine-red-colored blood. However, this time, there are hundreds of minuscule red spots on the outside of the condom. I am very puzzled at this. After I wash off, I go back to the bed and ask her, "Do you have menstruation?" Then she answers, "No, I have infection. " WTF. She isn't thinking. She knows she has an infection. Well, it all makes sense now because it sure did not look like menstruation to me. Then Monkey continues, "Last night, I'm barfine and the customer finger me. " Hmmm, that is very debatable.

In the morning, I do not make her stay. And she does not seem too keen on leaving either. She says she has to go to hygiene for pussy check-up and wants to stay until noon. OK, no problem. At noon, we leave the hotel. What to do? I tell her I will go with her to hygiene. As an underground investigative journalist, I feel it is my duty to follow up on her predicament down south. The hygiene clinic is located way past Wild Orchid Resort. You have to do a number of zig-zags to get there. I do not recommend that anyone do this. It was two hours of hellish waiting in the outdoor heat. I was in the shade but it was still very hot without A/C.

After two hours, Monkey gets her results. It says gonorrhea in English. That's great. Her workmates do not seem too surprised. They've probably seen it too many times. I give Monkey 100 pesos for her trike and we say goodbye.

It's almost 4 pm when I get to my hotel. I get a "Call me" text from Despacito who I have forgotten about because of all the infection nonsense. I call her and she says she is heading to my hotel now. "Sure honey, you can come now. " So it is true. The no contact rule does work.

When Despacito arrives, I tell her about Monkey's infection. Then she says, "I think she boom boom customer no condom many times. " I rest my case.

Next time I get a girl in AC, I will ask her if she has an infection. I'll make sure I'm ready for any dirty looks or punches that may land in my face.

Peace be with all.[/QUOTE]I cannot believe you went to hygiene clinic. Unless you did DATY you have nothing to worry about since you used condom. No need to know the results.

I generally do ginger and smell test on all the girls. If they ask I tell them why I am doing it. They do not seem to mind. In AC majority do not use condom.

[QUOTE=Sammon;2354620]I cannot believe you went to hygiene clinic. Unless you did DATY you have nothing to worry about since you used condom. No need to know the results.

I generally do ginger and smell test on all the girls. If they ask I tell them why I am doing it. They do not seem to mind. In AC majority do not use condom.[/QUOTE]What do you mean no need to know the results?

You make it sound like you are the authority. I had nothing to worry about but I still went. And I'm glad I did because I learned something new and maybe even valuable.

And I'm also glad to share this information with others in the forum. And I hope other members, even if not all, are appreciative of this information.

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[QUOTE=Sammon;2354620]I cannot believe you went to hygiene clinic. Unless you did DATY you have nothing to worry about since you used condom. No need to know the results.

I generally do ginger and smell test on all the girls. If they ask I tell them why I am doing it. They do not seem to mind. In AC majority do not use condom.[/QUOTE]I cannot believe you do a ginger and smell test on the girls. Do you stick the ginger in first and then smell or is it the other way round? I cannot believe the girls did not call you a pervert when you stuck the ginger in. Many members are asking you to elaborate. But I cannot believe you have chosen to ignore them. One member suggested you meant a finger and smell test. If that is true, I cannot believe you do not know the difference between a finger and a ginger. I cannot believe you do not proofread before you upload.

[QUOTE=Falcon95;2356817]I cannot believe you do a ginger and smell test on the girls. Do you stick the ginger in first and then smell or is it the other way round? I cannot believe the girls did not call you a pervert when you stuck the ginger in. Many members are asking you to elaborate. But I cannot believe you have chosen to ignore them. One member suggested you meant a finger and smell test. If that is true, I cannot believe you do not know the difference between a finger and a ginger. I cannot believe you do not proofread before you upload.[/QUOTE]Stuff like the Ginger test make this site. I wouldn't fancy licking it ooff though and I have a lot of ginger in the kitchen but I'll pas on it for a while.

[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2356955]Stuff like the Ginger test make this site. I wouldn't fancy licking it ooff though and I have a lot of ginger in the kitchen but I'll pas on it for a while.[/QUOTE]What does that mean?

"Stuff like the ginger test make this site".

[QUOTE=Falcon95;2354236]Next time I get a girl in AC, I will ask her if she has an infection. I'll make sure I'm ready for any dirty looks or punches that may land in my face.

Peace be with all.[/QUOTE]Will be interesting to hear the answers. Most Filipinos are not well educated on STI or even family planning. Of course to provide such education would admit to their being sex in the city.

[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2365544]Not many can keep up with the gruelling schedule involving late nights, alcohol, cigarettes, drugs, a different cock each night and sexually transmitted diseases.[/QUOTE]This brings to mind a question I have been wondering about. What is the incidence of STD s in the Philippines? I hear comments that it is high, Statistics can be tricky to get to the truth. An incidence rate of .01% in one group and .02% in another group is "WOW" twice as high according to the press, except that the actual numbers are exceedingly low. Does anyone know what is actually happening? The real numbers may be unknowable or at least kept hidden. I keep hearing HIV and other STD s are rampant in the Philippines. I always like to know the numbers behind the stats to form my own opinions. Public health officials are too often guilty of moralizing and using scary statistics they cherry pick from the data.

[QUOTE=ForkTruck;2366293]This brings to mind a question I have been wondering about. What is the incidence of STD s in the Philippines? I hear comments that it is high, Statistics can be tricky to get to the truth. An incidence rate of .01% in one group and .02% in another group is "WOW" twice as high according to the press, except that the actual numbers are exceedingly low. Does anyone know what is actually happening? The real numbers may be unknowable or at least kept hidden. I keep hearing HIV and other STD s are rampant in the Philippines. I always like to know the numbers behind the stats to form my own opinions. Public health officials are too often guilty of moralizing and using scary statistics they cherry pick from the data.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.euractiv.com/section/health-consumers/news/madagascars-aids-epidemic-rages-on-undetected/[/URL]

Found some actual STI rates for various areas in this report:

Gonorrhea 25 positive out of a sample of 450 females sex workers.

[URL]https://www.aidsdatahub.org/sites/default/files/documents/RTI_STI_Prevalence_in_Selected_Sites_in_the_Philippines.pdf.pdf[/URL]

[QUOTE=PilotPaul;2366308]Found some actual STI rates for various areas in this report:

Gonorrhea 25 positive out of a sample of 450 females sex workers.

[URL]https://www.aidsdatahub.org/sites/default/files/documents/RTI_STI_Prevalence_in_Selected_Sites_in_the_Philippines.pdf.pdf[/URL][/QUOTE]Hard to find a study date, but some of the tables suggest these data are from 2002.

[QUOTE=SoapySmith;2366360]Hard to find a study date, but some of the tables suggest these data are from 2002.[/QUOTE]The tests done were pretty thoroughly explained including the Whiff Test that we are familiar with. (The Whiff Test. A sample of vaginal discharge / secretion was obtained on a swab from the vagina (or from the speculum after removal) placed on a slide that has a drop of 10% potassium hydroxide (KOH) solution. The presence or absence of an ammoniacal (fishy) odor was noted, suggestive of bacterial vaginosis.) ƒ.

STD / HIV. The inconvenient truth is a lot is imported via planes and ships, as it had been over the centuries. Like the POX. But not devastating the population yet. Malaria and dengue are more indigenous.

[QUOTE=ForkTruck;2366386]The tests done were pretty thoroughly explained including the Whiff Test that we are familiar with. (The Whiff Test. A sample of vaginal discharge / secretion was obtained on a swab from the vagina (or from the speculum after removal) placed on a slide that has a drop of 10% potassium hydroxide (KOH) solution. The presence or absence of an ammoniacal (fishy) odor was noted, suggestive of bacterial vaginosis.) ƒ.[/QUOTE]You can ease your worried mind with the certified super gonorrhea-free money back guarantee at Bottoms. A fellow bareback monger swears by the delightful raw-dog fun he enjoys there.

To me, the aim of sex is for me and my partner is to achieve an orgasm. Getting on now and vaginal sex is not that exciting. Being older I sometimes have trouble cumming but find if I "help" myself I can achieve an orgasm. Also I hate condoms. Basically condom = flaccid.

My question is would the girls think it weird that I didn't want to horizontally dance with them? I would imagine being paid but not pounded would be a good nights work. Most times I would expect girls expect a good rogering and I sometimes do it just as like its the thing to do. I keep thinking its my money. They do what I want. Also it lowers my risk factors enormously obviously. Any thoughts, comments, feedback please.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2380542]To me, the aim of sex is for me and my partner is to achieve an orgasm. Getting on now and vaginal sex is not that exciting. Being older I sometimes have trouble cumming but find if I "help" myself I can achieve an orgasm. Also I hate condoms. Basically condom = flaccid.

My question is would the girls think it weird that I didn't want to horizontally dance with them? I would imagine being paid but not pounded would be a good nights work. Most times I would expect girls expect a good rogering and I sometimes do it just as like its the thing to do. I keep thinking its my money. They do what I want. Also it lowers my risk factors enormously obviously. Any thoughts, comments, feedback please.[/QUOTE]LBFMs bonk for $$. Very many prefer older as they pay more and do not pound them all night long like a trike driver or a US Marine, who still have fire in the belly. I gave up Vitamin V etc ages ago. You pay, your rules. Just get your money's worth by your scales. I had one LBFM tell me me jerking off turned her on. She really meant that would mean less work for her. Stay on your game. Get what you want. Then send them on their way.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2380542]To me, the aim of sex is for me and my partner is to achieve an orgasm. Getting on now and vaginal sex is not that exciting. Being older I sometimes have trouble cumming but find if I "help" myself I can achieve an orgasm. Also I hate condoms. Basically condom = flaccid.

My question is would the girls think it weird that I didn't want to horizontally dance with them? I would imagine being paid but not pounded would be a good nights work. Most times I would expect girls expect a good rogering and I sometimes do it just as like its the thing to do. I keep thinking its my money. They do what I want. Also it lowers my risk factors enormously obviously. Any thoughts, comments, feedback please.[/QUOTE]Just tell them you prefer other things. They won't even give it a second thought.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2380542]To me, the aim of sex is for me and my partner is to achieve an orgasm. Getting on now and vaginal sex is not that exciting. Being older I sometimes have trouble cumming but find if I "help" myself I can achieve an orgasm. Also I hate condoms. Basically condom = flaccid.

My question is would the girls think it weird that I didn't want to horizontally dance with them? I would imagine being paid but not pounded would be a good nights work. Most times I would expect girls expect a good rogering and I sometimes do it just as like its the thing to do. I keep thinking its my money. They do what I want. Also it lowers my risk factors enormously obviously. Any thoughts, comments, feedback please.[/QUOTE]I guess you are looking for company to sleep with but not have sex. I am sure some girls would love it. Money with no damage.

It will work with prostitutes and bar girls. Will not work with dating site girls. They want good pounding to keep them interested. Sex bonds people. Good satisfying sex bonds even more.

Yes, you can avoid all risks of sexual transmitted diseases. But this is a mongering forum and we love to pound the hell out of their vaginas.

But it is true as we all get get older the ejaculation and amount will decrease but it is no reason not to make girls happy. Thanks to Viagra men of any age can pound if they are half way healthy.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2380542] My question is would the girls think it weird that I didn't want to horizontally dance with them? I would imagine being paid but not pounded would be a good nights work.[/QUOTE]Well, as the taxi driver said: "Filipinos are physical people". I think she would be disappointed, and might think she wasn't pretty enough / sexy enough for you to want to penetrate her. Might say to her friends (bar or wherever) she suspects your 'gay' , LOL.

Overall, I think it would be an embarrassing night for both parties, unless you came up with a fabricated medical condition (other than STD) that currently prevents you from boinking.

Filipina's understand sex and money. Enduring love is very much the exception. I do not plan anything on the basis of exceptions, I operate on "general probabilities". Generally, if you supply the Filipina of your choice with sex and money, she will stick to you like super glue. And during the night too, when you want to have a good sleep (her arms wrapped around you).

[QUOTE=NewImage;2380542]My question is would the girls think it weird that I didn't want to horizontally dance with them? I would imagine being paid but not pounded would be a good nights work.......I keep thinking its my money. They do what I want. Also it lowers my risk factors enormously obviously. Any thoughts, comments, feedback please.[/QUOTE]Girls get it all the time. And yes, they consider it as easy money. I know many who have been barfined weeks on end or even been taken on extensive holidays all around PI and the guy hasn't touched them. Most have spoken kindly about him (why wouldn't they?) rather than as a dirty old man who can't get it up. 😁.

In our hobby there are plenty of weird requests so you are right to spend your money how you see fit.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2380542]To me, the aim of sex is for me and my partner is to achieve an orgasm. Getting on now and vaginal sex is not that exciting. Being older I sometimes have trouble cumming but find if I "help" myself I can achieve an orgasm. Also I hate condoms. Basically condom = flaccid.

My question is would the girls think it weird that I didn't want to horizontally dance with them? I would imagine being paid but not pounded would be a good nights work. Most times I would expect girls expect a good rogering and I sometimes do it just as like its the thing to do. I keep thinking its my money. They do what I want. Also it lowers my risk factors enormously obviously. Any thoughts, comments, feedback please.[/QUOTE]Yes, many of us have experienced that conundrum. As Sammon has mentioned, there is no way you are going to be able to skip fucking a dating site girl. Zero chance. Even if she doesn't drop her panties after the first meeting at Jollibee, she is going to want to ride your disco stick on the second meeting. Machismo is alive and well in the Philippines and there is an expectation that you are going to fuck her, and fuck her hard. If you don't fuck her, they will be questioning your sexuality and wondering if you are poofter who prefers it up the ass from a LB.

Pinays are the biggest blabber mouths in the world. Before you have even bought your plane ticket, she would have discussed you in detail with her family, friends and work colleagues. Those innocent photos you sent her would have been circulated from Baguio in the north to Zamboanga in the south and all points in between. Everyone is expecting you to fuck her. Her friends will want all the details about the size of your schlong, how hard it was and whether you gave her pussy a proper work out. The news of your performance (or lack of) will be circulated from Baguio in the north to Zamboanga in the south and all points in between. If you don't want to fuck a girl, you should stay away from dating sites.

Having given your problem considerable thought, there are three ways you can approach this and leave with your masculinity intact.

1. Go into a gogo bar and barfine a chick who is on her period. Rules of probability state that one in six chicks will be on their period. Just ask the waitress or mamasan and they will bring you a chick who is menstruating. She can keep her panties on and keep you warm in your bed. We all do it at home, so you can do it too in your AC hotel room. No one will expect you to fuck her. Bear in mind that you will be the only man who would have ever have knowingly barfined a girl on her period. Some may gossip that you have a blood fetish, but let them gossip. You're rich and they are not.

2. Go into a gogo bar and find a girl who has been bruised and battered the previous night by a big, black cock. A 10 inch, black anaconda can do a lot of damage to a poor little Pinay's pussy, regardless of it's mileage. What little tread is left will be worn beyond repair. She will be the girl who is hobbling around in pain and you will be able to spot her easily. Or just ask the mamasan. Take pity on the girl and bar fine her on the condition that you won't be sticking your dick in her that night. She will appreciate the money and the fact that you are a real gentlemen. There's only one thing that Pinays like more than machismo and that's chivalry.

3. Barfine a girl, take her to your room and give her a couple of glasses of Night Train. If you can't get it, just ask the Wine List Guys (WLGs) in Davao and they will tell you were to get it. Now Night Train is sickly sweet, and Pinays will just love it. She will think it is the nectar of the Gods straight from the Elysian Fields. There will be no need for you to recite Virgil's Ecologues to her as after two glasses of Night Train, she will be out for the count. You may then sleep with her and not need to fuck her. No one will ever know. It will be our little secret.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2380628]Girls get it all the time. And yes, they consider it as easy money. I know many who have been barfined weeks on end or even been taken on extensive holidays all around PI and the guy hasn't touched them. Most have spoken kindly about him (why wouldn't they?) rather than as a dirty old man who can't get it up. 😁.

In our hobby there are plenty of weird requests so you are right to spend your money how you see fit.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]The G man is, as usual, correct. The best policy is to simply be honest. Tell them you're afraid to do it without a condom but wearing one makes you soft and you hate them, so you'll have to figure out with her a more effective means of achieving orgasm. These girls won't think it's weird or even rate, and they have heard it all. Most will likely; figure it's just easier money for them.

GE.

[QUOTE=Sxxxx;2380565]Well, as the taxi driver said: "Filipinos are physical people". I think she would be disappointed, and might think she wasn't pretty enough / sexy enough for you to want to penetrate her. Might say to her friends (bar or wherever) she suspects your 'gay' , LOL.

Overall, I think it would be an embarrassing night for both parties, unless you came up with a fabricated medical condition (other than STD) that currently prevents you from boinking.

Filipina's understand sex and money. Enduring love is very much the exception. I do not plan anything on the basis of exceptions, I operate on "general probabilities". Generally, if you supply the Filipina of your choice with sex and money, she will stick to you like super glue. And during the night too, when you want to have a good sleep (her arms wrapped around you).[/QUOTE]Filipinas certainly love their rogue elephants and walking ATMs, and both need not come in the same package. LOL! They are very practical people. He would be much better off confessing to the girls that he has a broken boner, give them the lizard's lick, and carry a tool bag filled with an assortment of vibrators and dildos.

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2380832] He would be much better off confessing to the girls that he has a broken boner[/QUOTE]Be careful. This may backfire.

After confessing that I don't actually need to get a shot away everytime to have a good night, several girls have insisted on putting in additional effort just to fix my 'broken' dick and return it to full functioning condition. 😁.

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2380832]give them the lizard's lick, and carry a tool bag filled with an assortment of vibrators and dildos.[/QUOTE]Many girls are full of surprises. I latched on to a quiet cutie once. Unfortunately, fucking her was far less interesting than fucking a sheet of plywood with a hole drilled in it. I think she was comatose through out the whole session. However, later one finger lead to a second which lead to power fisting while she was writhing around, bouncing off the ceiling. With this MO, she became easily the most animated fuck I've ever had. A real box of chocolates!!

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2380542]To me, the aim of sex is for me and my partner is to achieve an orgasm. Getting on now and vaginal sex is not that exciting. Being older I sometimes have trouble cumming but find if I "help" myself I can achieve an orgasm. Also I hate condoms. Basically condom = flaccid.[/QUOTE]The aim of sex in Philippines is for the punter to be happy. Just tell them what you want and it will work. I often finish on their stomach or in their mouth.

From your previous posts you've mentioned you have partner back in Aust. I assume you want the protection of protection to keep her safe also.

In Australia there are larger condoms for sale. Better to travel with them than those tight ones from available in Ministop.

Also, as other have said, it the Viagra, bu it before you leave. It's cheaper.

I think the reality is that you will be barebacking your way through Philippines. Get used to the guilt and just book a STI screening as soon as you get home.

PP.

[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2380663]Yes, many of us have experienced that conundrum. As Sammon has mentioned, there is no way you are going to be able to skip fucking a dating site girl. Zero chance. Even if she doesn't drop her panties after the first meeting at Jollibee, she is going to want to ride your disco stick on the second meeting. Machismo is alive and well in the Philippines and there is an expectation that you are going to fuck her, and fuck her hard. If you don't fuck her, they will be questioning your sexuality and wondering if you are poofter who prefers it up the ass from a LB.

Pinays are the biggest blabber mouths in the world. Before you have even bought your plane ticket, she would have discussed you in detail with her family, friends and work colleagues. Those innocent photos you sent her would have been circulated from Baguio in the north to Zamboanga in the south and all points in between. Everyone is expecting you to fuck her. Her friends will want all the details about the size of your schlong, how hard it was and whether you gave her pussy a proper work out. The news of your performance (or lack of) will be circulated from Baguio in the north to Zamboanga in the south and all points in between. If you don't want to fuck a girl, you should stay away from dating sites..[/QUOTE]This is very well my thoughts as well.

Dating site experience (especially cupid like websites not tinder) and the way to engage in activities are entirely different to people used to bar hopping. Doing it right will bring a lot of fond memories to get one back to these places.

[QUOTE=CodeName47;2407048]This is very well my thoughts as well.

Dating site experience (especially cupid like websites not tinder) and the way to engage in activities are entirely different to people used to bar hopping. Doing it right will bring a lot of fond memories to get one back to these places.[/QUOTE]My experience is that pinay mainly make each other jealous about the gifts they get and even more the gifts the family (the mama) gets.

They only give sex quick so they have a white baby you can pay for. They are crazy about white babies and about future money!

But most most most important is that you spent 20.000 p on food and drinks when you go to her poor family so the whole village knows how rich (stupid) foreigner they did find!

In my view sex is the same for pinay as eating a bread for us. Next day they don't know or care anymore who they had yesterday haha. But they remember how much money you promised forever.

When I talk like this to other foreigners who have a pinay with them on holidays I get fights.

I take my pinay to Bali, Thailand, Vietnam, don't accept she gets fat, give her tips when she dances on stage for me. Even more tip if she dances without panty.

I must say I hate the selfish sharing amongst themselves culture so much, but that's the only reason an old man can get a young girl. Or why pinay (and thai) work in bars or on street.

In my view me and my pinay mis use each other and the only who has benefit are the family of my pinay.

Or maybe nobody profits, cause the family only gets more lazy and will be only happy with the money they get more from the white next time.

Sorry for this realize, I com 16 years in the Phil and have the last 3 years a relation, I meet her 5 times 2 weeks a year.

R.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2380542]To me, the aim of sex is for me and my partner is to achieve an orgasm. Getting on now and vaginal sex is not that exciting. Being older I sometimes have trouble cumming but find if I "help" myself I can achieve an orgasm. Also I hate condoms. Basically condom = flaccid.

My question is would the girls think it weird that I didn't want to horizontally dance with them? I would imagine being paid but not pounded would be a good nights work. Most times I would expect girls expect a good rogering and I sometimes do it just as like its the thing to do. I keep thinking its my money. They do what I want. Also it lowers my risk factors enormously obviously. Any thoughts, comments, feedback please.[/QUOTE]Haha I think at some stage of our lives we will all have the same issue. There have been a lot of comments also on this topic. Here is my 2 c worth. Life in Philippine is hard for regular girls or working girls. So if you treat the girls nice, give them some respect and treat them to nice dinner and few drinks having sex may not be that big deal for them. I think most of us mature mongers know it's not just about penetration. I am assuming you are like me who appreciates trust and mutual attraction and wants to see the same girl on a regular basis otherwise this would not be a problem. Besides working girls may want to get out of the hotel and pick the next client. They won't mind this at all. The non working girls may appreciate a good time and may be even turned on by some honesty.

I met this chick on PL she has a regular job in mall. The first time we met we had a nice romantic dinner and then I took her to the room with excuse to show something. And we got cosy and she got so wet and started biting my lip. That got me so hot and I came early. In my next trip after a few months we kind of repeated the same thing and again I came quickly. I thought this chick will not meet me again as she may be used to sex and I may not have been able to satisfy her. We kept in touch and she was still keen to meet me. Last year on the third trip we met again. This time we had built enough connection and had amazing sex. I could hold longer and oh boy that was good. This made me realize everyone needs a escape from their daily grind specially in Asian countries where these girls are single mothers and raising a family. Most men in these countries seem to be lazy, or drunk and treat the women badly. Mind you no money was ever exchanged with my girl. So over Christmas I sent some cash for her to buy some gift.

I think the aim of the game is to have fun. Sometimes you have to take a more selfish approach. Then there are plenty of girls in Philippine who want to make you happy. If you are paying for the night have it your way.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2380542]To me, the aim of sex is for me and my partner is to achieve an orgasm. Getting on now and vaginal sex is not that exciting. Being older I sometimes have trouble cumming but find if I "help" myself I can achieve an orgasm. Also I hate condoms. Basically condom = flaccid.

My question is would the girls think it weird that I didn't want to horizontally dance with them? I would imagine being paid but not pounded would be a good nights work. Most times I would expect girls expect a good rogering and I sometimes do it just as like its the thing to do. I keep thinking its my money. They do what I want. Also it lowers my risk factors enormously obviously. Any thoughts, comments, feedback please.[/QUOTE](Excuse me if my reply has been posted twice. It seemed there was a problem and forum signed me out.).

Haha I think at some stage of our lives we will all have the same issue. There have been a lot of comments also on this topic. Here is my 2 c worth. Life in Philippine is hard for regular girls or working girls. So if you treat the girls nice, give them some respect and treat them to nice dinner and few drinks having sex may not be that big deal for them. I think most of us mature mongers know it's not just about penetration. I am assuming you are like me who appreciates trust and mutual attraction and wants to see the same girl on a regular basis otherwise this would not be a problem. Besides working girls may want to get out of the hotel and pick the next client. They won't mind this at all. The non working girls may appreciate a good time and may be even turned on by some honesty.

I met this chick on PL she has a regular job in mall. The first time we met we had a nice romantic dinner and then I took her to the room with excuse to show something. And we got cosy and she got so wet and started biting my lip. That got me so hot and I came early. In my next trip after a few months we kind of repeated the same thing and again I came quickly. I thought this chick will not meet me again as she may be used to sex and I may not have been able to satisfy her. We kept in touch and she was still keen to meet me. Last year on the third trip we met again. This time we had built enough connection and had amazing sex. I could hold longer and oh boy that was good. This made me realise everyone needs a escape from their daily grind specially in Asian countries where these girls are single mothers and raising a family. Most men in these countries seem to be lazy, or drunk and treat the women badly. Mind you no money was ever exchanged with my girl. So over Christmas I sent some cash for her to buy some gift.

I think the aim of the game is to have fun. Sometimes you have to take a more selfish approach. Then there are plenty of girls in Philippine who want to make you happy. If you are paying for the night have it your way.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2380542]To me, the aim of sex is for me and my partner is to achieve an orgasm. Getting on now and vaginal sex is not that exciting. Being older I sometimes have trouble cumming but find if I "help" myself I can achieve an orgasm. Also I hate condoms. Basically condom = flaccid.

My question is would the girls think it weird that I didn't want to horizontally dance with them? I would imagine being paid but not pounded would be a good nights work. Most times I would expect girls expect a good rogering and I sometimes do it just as like its the thing to do. I keep thinking its my money. They do what I want. Also it lowers my risk factors enormously obviously. Any thoughts, comments, feedback please.[/QUOTE]First of all, it doesn't matter what anyone thinks.

Some girls really don't like to do sex all the time contrary to what these great Don Juan's (they do Juan and they are Don) will tell you. Most of the girls actually hate their life of doing sex for money.

I think it would be refreshing for them to not have to do it. Just tell them initially you have "no power". They will assume you had your fun already and not think much about it. Later on you can explain it to them if you want to.

[QUOTE=Retgilpo;2420976]My experience is that pinay mainly make each other jealous about the gifts they get and even more the gifts the family (the mama) gets.

They only give sex quick so they have a white baby you can pay for. They are crazy about white babies and about future money!

But most most most important is that you spent 20.000 p on food and drinks when you go to her poor family so the whole village knows how rich (stupid) foreigner they did find!

In my view me and my pinay mis use each other and the only who has benefit are the family of my pinay.


R.[/QUOTE]Look at the Facebook of a pinay. Full of mindless photos of gifts they get (however trivial and stupid like a bar of chocolate, cheap perfume etc) and half eaten food regardless if a Jollibee or a proper meal.

Many have endless picture of food in some restaurant etc plus the obligatory ones of hotels, beaches etc.

Why? To wind their friends and relatives up and make them jealous as Ret say. One I know would be sure post lots of photos of her dads birthday with crab and lobster etc. Tone of shell fish. Just to show the neighbours she was better than them but all paid for by some stupid white fellow (who I knew and advised not to but his brains in his small head sadly).

When she was later dumped by him and had little the neighbour all enjoyed her misery and would not help.

Just plain stupidity that I can never understand but I see a lot of most days.

[QUOTE=Retgilpo;2420976]My experience is that pinay mainly make each other jealous about the gifts they get and even more the gifts the family (the mama) gets.

They only give sex quick so they have a white baby you can pay for. They are crazy about white babies and about future money!

But most most most important is that you spent 20.000 p on food and drinks when you go to her poor family so the whole village knows how rich (stupid) foreigner they did find!

In my view sex is the same for pinay as eating a bread for us. Next day they don't know or care anymore who they had yesterday haha. But they remember how much money you promised forever.

When I talk like this to other foreigners who have a pinay with them on holidays I get fights.

I take my pinay to Bali, Thailand, Vietnam, don't accept she gets fat, give her tips when she dances on stage for me. Even more tip if she dances without panty..[/QUOTE]To a Pinay, sex is the same as taking a shit. It matters not to them who their do it with and is quickly forgotten. Do not expect them to be loyal to you. Sex is prized in Rich Whiteman Land and most couples expect exclusivity within relationships. In Flipsville, sex is a commodity traded cheaply, and 'virginity' can be had for a pack of Tim Tams. Understand this. Guard your heart and wallet, regardless of what the girls and lost expats tell you. LOL! You are there for the sex. She is there for the money and visa to Rich Whiteman Land, where she will forge the first link in chain migration for her tribe.

If you cream-pie, you must pay the baker 300 Euros monthly for the bun in the oven for the next two decades. Both parties mutually exploit each other and their offspring for the benefit of the Flip parents, aunts, uncles, brothers, sisters, cousins, etc. What are you willing to do for sex with a brown fucklet? Are you willing to put in the work and sacrifice to keep her family and barangay happy? Her family will want growing amounts of money and the barangay needs pig meat and liquor. In Flipsville, the fly sits atop the water buffalo.

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2421356]In Flipsville, the fly sits atop the water buffalo.[/QUOTE]Truer words. Never spoken.

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2421356]To a Pinay, sex is the same as taking a shit. It matters not to them who their do it with and is quickly forgotten. Do not expect them to be loyal to you. Sex is prized in Rich Whiteman Land and most couples expect exclusivity within relationships. In Flipsville, sex is a commodity traded cheaply, and 'virginity' can be had for a pack of Tim Tams. Understand this. Guard your heart and wallet, regardless of what the girls and lost expats tell you. LOL! You are there for the sex. She is there for the money and visa to Rich Whiteman Land, where she will forge the first link in chain migration for her tribe.

If you cream-pie, you must pay the baker 300 Euros monthly for the bun in the oven for the next two decades. Both parties mutually exploit each other and their offspring for the benefit of the Flip parents, aunts, uncles, brothers, sisters, cousins, etc. What are you willing to do for sex with a brown fucklet? Are you willing to put in the work and sacrifice to keep her family and barangay happy? Her family will want growing amounts of money and the barangay needs pig meat and liquor. In Flipsville, the fly sits atop the water buffalo.[/QUOTE]You have a pretty one-dimensional view of Filipinas, my friend. I do not blame you though, as you have probably only bonded with the kind of Pinays you are talking about.

Coming from someone who has lived here majority of his life (since childhood), I had different experiences. My income bracket by Philippine standards ranges from middle-class to upper middle-class, so I could be referred to as "rich guy" from people living in poverty. Even so, not all girls from those economic class would be attracted to me by default. I even got dumped in favor of someone who has lower income than me. The girl told me that I am too much for her and she does not dream to be on my level.

That's one of the main reasons I got a vasectomy. I can go bareback and spread my semen 'juice' around the country with reckless abandon. Since I got home a couple days ago, 1 girl already has messaged me that; 'I am pregnant'. LOL. I am not even going to respond, not worth my time. They are scammers who think nothing about fleecing you to no end. Just enjoy those tight little brown pussies and go home to live another day.

[QUOTE=Retgilpo;2420976]My experience is that pinay mainly make each other jealous about the gifts they get and even more the gifts the family (the mama) gets.

They only give sex quick so they have a white baby you can pay for. They are crazy about white babies and about future money!

But most most most important is that you spent 20.000 p on food and drinks when you go to her poor family so the whole village knows how rich (stupid) foreigner they did find!

In my view sex is the same for pinay as eating a bread for us. Next day they don't know or care anymore who they had yesterday haha. But they remember how much money you promised forever.

When I talk like this to other foreigners who have a pinay with them on holidays I get fights.

I take my pinay to Bali, Thailand, Vietnam, don't accept she gets fat, give her tips when she dances on stage for me. Even more tip if she dances without panty.

I must say I hate the selfish sharing amongst themselves culture so much, but that's the only reason an old man can get a young girl. Or why pinay (and thai) work in bars or on street.

In my view me and my pinay mis use each other and the only who has benefit are the family of my pinay.

Or maybe nobody profits, cause the family only gets more lazy and will be only happy with the money they get more from the white next time.

Sorry for this realize, I com 16 years in the Phil and have the last 3 years a relation, I meet her 5 times 2 weeks a year.

R.[/QUOTE]I haven't had enough experience in Philippines.

During my last trip to Indonesia, I just visited Manila and A regional town. I had a glimpse of what you have wrote already. I had wonderful experiences in Jakarta, Bali, Medan on my every visits. However, mostly whenever I was approaching a girl from dating website, they were trying to scam me.

[QUOTE=TruthTeller;2502097]It's question about your fucking chicks without condoms. What about std and hiv from female to male. I am just waiting curious for your answer. Thank in advance.[/QUOTE]1) Your post answered here in the 'Safe sex' forum where it belongs.

2) TT the Photo Gallery is for posts that actually have a pic, its not for general comments or questions. Feel free to post us a pic of your condom-covered tool (preferably with a Filipina).

3) I'm not sure why I'd bother answering your question, as the information must be easily discovered with a Google search. Maybe I can find someone to help you do simple things, like a Google search.

4) Don't do as I do, do as I say you should do. I say: Don't do as I do. Maybe consider a condom and enjoy the pinay less. Using a condom is like chewing candy with the wrapper still on.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2502134]1) Your post answered here in the 'Safe sex' forum where it belongs.

2) TT the Photo Gallery is for posts that actually have a pic, its not for general comments or questions. Feel free to post us a pic of your condom-covered tool (preferably with a Filipina).

3) I'm not sure why I'd bother answering your question, as the information must be easily discovered with a Google search. Maybe I can find someone to help you do simple things, like a Google search.

4) Don't do as I do, do as I say you should do. I say: Don't do as I do. Maybe consider a condom and enjoy the pinay less. Using a condom is like chewing candy with the wrapper still on.[/QUOTE]Your great grand daddy of mongering. I just taste 4 or 5 chick per year. I just want to know about health related. Is std and hiv is real or fake.

[QUOTE=TruthTeller;2502140]Your great grand daddy of mongering. I just taste 4 or 5 chick per year. I just want to know about health related. Is std and hiv is real or fake.[/QUOTE]Dude its 2020, if you haven't learnt whether STD and HIV is real or not then only god can help you. The Philippines is the unsafe sex heaven for those who like to engage in that activity, if you are concerned about this then you shouldn't go there, and definitely not follow any advice provided here as you will definitely be getting sloppy seconds or thirds.

[QUOTE=TomMAffolter;2502165]Dude its 2020, if you haven't learnt whether STD and HIV is real or not then only god can help you. The Philippines is the unsafe sex heaven for those who like to engage in that activity, if you are concerned about this then you shouldn't go there, and definitely not follow any advice provided here as you will definitely be getting sloppy seconds or thirds.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your valuable reply.

[QUOTE=TomMAffolter;2502165]Dude its 2020, if you haven't learnt whether STD and HIV is real or not then only god can help you. The Philippines is the unsafe sex heaven for those who like to engage in that activity, if you are concerned about this then you shouldn't go there, and definitely not follow any advice provided here as you will definitely be getting sloppy seconds or thirds.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TruthTeller;2502140]Your great grand daddy of mongering. I just taste 4 or 5 chick per year. I just want to know about health related. Is std and hiv is real or fake.[/QUOTE]TT: Apology my sarcasm. Its real. Follow Tom's advice and cover up.

[QUOTE=TruthTeller;2502140]Your great grand daddy of mongering. I just taste 4 or 5 chick per year. I just want to know about health related. Is std and hiv is real or fake.[/QUOTE]It is only real when it burns your cock or makes you sick.

[QUOTE=TruthTeller;2502140]Your great grand daddy of mongering. I just taste 4 or 5 chick per year. I just want to know about health related. Is std and hiv is real or fake.[/QUOTE]Statistically, HIV rate is low in the PHILS. NSU though has caught up with the Gunz only in the Phils. Face it, the Pinay are dead broke for check up, and a bit uninformed with those matters.

I don't recall anyone mentioning PrEP. The barebackers, me included, should be on this. Look into it.

[URL]https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/basics/prep.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=NiceGuy99;2503052]I don't recall anyone mentioning PrEP. The barebackers, me included, should be on this. Look into it.

[URL]https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/basics/prep.html[/URL][/QUOTE]It does say to use it if you are at risk. I would consider this to be if you know your partner has HIV. If you are using it for protection on random hookups that's going to be overkill I think. Just use condoms.

[QUOTE=BrizLad;2503095]It does say to use it if you are at risk. I would consider this to be if you know your partner has HIV. If you are using it for protection on random hookups that's going to be overkill I think. Just use condoms.[/QUOTE]Screwing third world female SWs is considered risky behavior, even if not high risk such as doing anal top or (worse) bottom. To be continuously on prep seems a bit overkill, but it's also possible to do "holiday prep" only. This will put less strain on liver / kidneys.

[QUOTE=BrizLad;2503095]It does say to use it if you are at risk. I would consider this to be if you know your partner has HIV. If you are using it for protection on random hookups that's going to be overkill I think. Just use condoms.[/QUOTE]Respectfully, Briz, I don't believe "know your partner has HIV" is the usual interpretation. If you are having bareback sex with anyone you are "at risk". As for using a condom. I just don't do that.

[QUOTE=Paladin30;2421454]You have a pretty one-dimensional view of Filipinas, my friend. I do not blame you though, as you have probably only bonded with the kind of Pinays you are talking about.

Coming from someone who has lived here majority of his life (since childhood), I had different experiences. My income bracket by Philippine standards ranges from middle-class to upper middle-class, so I could be referred to as "rich guy" from people living in poverty. Even so, not all girls from those economic class would be attracted to me by default. I even got dumped in favor of someone who has lower income than me. The girl told me that I am too much for her and she does not dream to be on my level.[/QUOTE]For 10 years now, I always bareback in Thailand, Cambodia and PH, I never catch any disease. Usually I pay more but I fuck only very sexy young girls! I love sexy girls who are between 18 to 25. I'm an addict of creampie! I always come inside their pussy. But to be sure they're not pregnant, each time before I buy a dozen of pills for girls to not be pregnant. I never get any problems.

[QUOTE=Gilolo;2505466]For 10 years now, I always bareback in Thailand, Cambodia and PH, I never catch any disease. Usually I pay more but I fuck only very sexy young girls! I love sexy girls who are between 18 to 25. I'm an addict of creampie! I always come inside their pussy. But to be sure they're not pregnant, each time before I buy a dozen of pills for girls to not be pregnant. I never get any problems.[/QUOTE]Then you have not fucked enough.

[QUOTE=NiceGuy99;2503374]Respectfully, Briz, I don't believe "know your partner has HIV" is the usual interpretation. If you are having bareback sex with anyone you are "at risk". As for using a condom. I just don't do that.[/QUOTE]I'm asking this question as I want to understand what is best.

You would subscribe to prophylactic use of PrEP on a daily basis but you won't use condoms?

[QUOTE=Gilolo;2505466]For 10 years now, I always bareback in Thailand, Cambodia and PH, I never catch any disease.[/QUOTE]Impossible.

[QUOTE=BrizLad;2505571]I'm asking this question as I want to understand what is best.

You would subscribe to prophylactic use of PrEP on a daily basis but you won't use condoms?[/QUOTE]In a word. Yes. My doc says there is little risk of side effects from long term use of PrEP. It greatly reduces the probability of catching HIV. Even though HIV is controllable now days it is a much tougher STD than most. I have bareback sex with girls and. Uhh, also the unmentionables.

[QUOTE=BrizLad;2505571]I'm asking this question as I want to understand what is best. You would subscribe to prophylactic use of PrEP on a daily basis but you won't use condoms?[/QUOTE]I was going to Private-Message you an answer, but you don't have PM capability.

[QUOTE=Gilolo;2505466]For 10 years now, I always bareback in Thailand, Cambodia and PH, I never catch any disease. Usually I pay more but I fuck only very sexy young girls! I love sexy girls who are between 18 to 25. I'm an addict of creampie! I always come inside their pussy. But to be sure they're not pregnant, each time before I buy a dozen of pills for girls to not be pregnant. I never get any problems.[/QUOTE]Bareback sex has its inherent risks. It does not matter if they are sexy or young.

I have barebacked many over the years. I do get check ups and blood test for STD. Only one time it came out positive for chlamydia. Course of antibiotics took care of it. I had no symptoms so did not know which if the girls I fucked had it. Since then I do take long acting antibiotics for the duration of my trip although it is not effective for HIV. So far so good. I used to always use condom if I am taking bargirls in any country. Since I switched to dating girls only I do not use condoms.

Except for Philippines, Thailand, Indonesia most girls want you to use condom. Dating girls will allow without condom once they get to know you after repeated encounters.

[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2505764]Impossible.[/QUOTE]Hypothetically it probably is possible, but I think Dg has it right: he needs to fuck a lot more, as soon and as fast as possible.

[QUOTE=Gilolo;2505466]For 10 years now, I always bareback in Thailand, Cambodia and PH, I never catch any disease. Usually I pay more but I fuck only very sexy young girls! I love sexy girls who are between 18 to 25. I'm an addict of creampie! I always come inside their pussy. But to be sure they're not pregnant, each time before I buy a dozen of pills for girls to not be pregnant. I never get any problems.[/QUOTE]No pill is 100% effective and some girls could be using medication or herbs that neutralize the effects of the pill. Therefore, there is a good chance that there are some little bastards out there looking for their Papa Gilolo.

Chairman Mao was allegedly a 'silent' STD-carrier who had sex with thousands of village girls, likely infecting some, yet never exhibiting symptoms himself. He refused treatment from his Chicago-trained Chinese doctor and didn't even clean the area saying, "I'll wash it in my sexual partners". A psychopath in sex as well as politics! According to the 'Terrain Theory' of disease, opportunistic bacteria, like Chlamydia trying to jump to new territory through sexual congress, is dependent on how healthy and well-nourished is the individual harbouring it. So, pathogens only flourish in sickly or toxic persons. STD-transmission, such as it was historically, was certainly no hindrance to humans' colonisation of the world!

After three weeks of fucking pinay bareback I had a STI screen when I returned. Sure enough chlamydia and its friend gonorrhea had come home with me. Of course the doctors say to notify previous partner (s) which is a waste of time in Ph as the girls will unlikely to get tested, unlikely to take any medication and probably re-infected by more of you horny mongers. None of the girls I fucked were bargirls. All dating site girls.

Everything has been cleared up by a round of antibiotics and a shot in the bum.

[QUOTE=AsianPursuits;2708496]After three weeks of fucking pinay bareback I had a STI screen when I returned. Sure enough chlamydia and its friend gonorrhea had come home with me. Of course the doctors say to notify previous partner (s) which is a waste of time in Ph as the girls will unlikely to get tested, unlikely to take any medication and probably re-infected by more of you horny mongers. None of the girls I fucked were bargirls. All dating site girls.

Everything has been cleared up by a round of antibiotics and a shot in the bum.[/QUOTE]But if you don't try and find some / all of the girls they will spread it further to more mongers so I would let them know and offer pay a test / meds to clean it up.

We all take risks with BB. I have I know but if I get the dreaded STI I would make an effort.

Just my 2 cents!

[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2708905]But if you don't try and find some / all of the girls they will spread it further to more mongers so I would let them know and offer pay a test / meds to clean it up.

We all take risks with BB. I have I know but if I get the dreaded STI I would make an effort.

Just my 2 cents![/QUOTE]Dude was fucking around for 3 weeks. So even at one girl per day that's over 20 girls. Thats a lot of testing and treatment! And just to show that there is no difference between bar girls and dating site girls in terms of STD risk. Bar girls are probably more likely to observe their coochie and get treatment anyway!

[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2708905]But if you don't try and find some / all of the girls they will spread it further to more mongers so I would let them know and offer pay a test / meds to clean it up.

We all take risks with BB. I have I know but if I get the dreaded STI I would make an effort.

Just my 2 cents![/QUOTE]I get your point but many poor prostitutes, the Pampanga crowd, don't want to know. Their horizons only go as far as their next gambling / yabba hit. That was my experience with one spare wheel.

That said, as I previously reported, two Pampangites I did a boring 3 some with stole my condoms, on the recommendation of their sister, a nurse, (3 some was a bore).

These women do industrial levels of bonking and I guess you get what you pay for.

I would imagine a lot of them are asymptotic as they don't get cleaned up and / or won't spend the cash to do so.

Another issue is BS info / bias confirmation on the Internet. We want to beleive it is safe so we listen to Sirens.

[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2708905]But if you don't try and find some / all of the girls they will spread it further to more mongers so I would let them know and offer pay a test / meds to clean it up.

We all take risks with BB. I have I know but if I get the dreaded STI I would make an effort.

Just my 2 cents![/QUOTE]

I completely agree, it happened to me afew years ago, the first thing I did was take the antibiotics for a week and then I was completely cured, it only cost like 200 php, so texting all the girls I had sex with was a no-brainer for me.

Is about morals and caring about people's lives, remember if the girls you slept with get the disease from you and she doesn't know about it for a long period of time (75 to 80% of women may have no symptoms), they can easily develop cervical cancer or other serious health problems if it goes untreated for a long period of time.

Even if the girls I text got mad at me for giving them stress, at least I can sleep better at night knowing that I did my part, and if anyone who didn't get test it develop anything in the future, it won't be my fault because I told them about it, and BTW getting test it for STD in Philippines is free, and the antibiotics cost only like 200 php. I even told them if they were positive I can help them pay for the antibiotics, but none of them asked me for money, not sure if all of them got test it, but at least 5 of the 9 girls I told were negative, the other 4 girls didn't reply back, so maybe they were positive and they were piss at me, but not sure because they haven't unfriend me. I also text 3 girls back in Canada, but they were all negative. Good thing this happened in my first 12 days in Philippines, and I only slept with 9 girls. Can you imagine if this happened after 1 or 2 months!

One thing, if you feel lazy to text all your girls, just write one message, copy and paste, change their names, and send to all of them.

And by the way, all the girls I slept with are good girls, they are not escorts, freelancers, or bar-girls.... So not sure if this applies to them, since someone here said they get test it all the time.

If I was them I will text them anyway and let them know, because they are still humans, well I will only text the ones I have their number of course.

For anyone looking for STD testing and treatment in Manila, Makati Med is still a good option, albeit a premium / expensive one. Just go to the information desk on the ground floor (right at the entrance) and they'll tell you which doctor is available that day. Prices as of January 2023:

* Doctor consultation fee: 2,000.

* Lab fee for a urine test for gonorrhea and chlamydia: 7,500.

* Pharmacy fee for antibiotics: 2,000.

The whole process (doctor, lab, pharmacy) takes less than two hours.

Urine labs have results within 6 working hours (same day if you do them in the morning). You can get the results online. Make sure to ask them for the instructions while you're there, or you can come back for a physical copy if you forget. If you have symptoms, the doctor will likely prescribe you the antibiotics on the spot without waiting for the lab results.

If you have medical insurance and you plan to file a claim with them, make sure to request a medical certificate from the doctor. Insurance will deny your claim without it.

The doctors only appear to accept cash, but the lab and pharmacy accept credit cards.

[QUOTE=Hutsori;1490557]Makati Med (MM) is near Ayala Ave and Buendia (aka Gil Puyat). Dr. Echiverri in room 155 is the infectious diseases specialist and a nice lady. Tests for HIV, gonorrhea, chlamydia, syphilis, and herpes II (two tests) will run approx. P15000. Most of the test results are ready by the next day except for one of them (herpes, I recall) which takes three days. If MM is too far or too expensive you may want to check out the Research Institute for Tropical Medicine (RITM) in Malate. I believe the HIV test there is free if you tell 'them you're gay.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2710792]I get your point but many poor prostitutes, the Pampanga crowd, don't want to know. Their horizons only go as far as their next gambling / yabba hit. That was my experience with one spare wheel.

That said, as I previously reported, two Pampangites I did a boring 3 some with stole my condoms, on the recommendation of their sister, a nurse, (3 some was a bore).

These women do industrial levels of bonking and I guess you get what you pay for.

I would imagine a lot of them are asymptotic as they don't get cleaned up and / or won't spend the cash to do so.

Another issue is BS info / bias confirmation on the Internet. We want to beleive it is safe so we listen to Sirens.[/QUOTE]Most all girls know in AC they can get testing and treatment free.

I don’t know what kind of girls you hang with?

[QUOTE=FuriousGeorge;2831147]Because I said so. And also because I said I've smelled plenty of odor, just not in AC. There is nothing wrong with sharing experiences, and we all understand that this is ANECDOTAL. Nobody's doing a peer reviewed study on this, so it's just conversation that may be of interest.

I always shower with the girl, and that will certainly wash away some of the funk (we have it too BTW), but if she has a real infection, that's not going to cut it. The weekly health checks are designed to find exactly that. Hell, they could test positive for the clap every week, take the antibiotic, and be back in the game in a few days for all we know.[/QUOTE]For the sake of information to the board and those that might not know, claiming the weekly pap smear tests the girls sometimes attend is just what it says on the tin a pap smear test.

Trying to claim that these very simple checks are able to detect serious venerial diseases are just not true and is supplying wrong information to the board and its members, why do I say this, well no blood is taken from the girls therefore its impossible to check for any venerial diseases which might be causing that terrible Angeles pussy stench that multiple members are reporting.

Quite happy that you report your own experiences but in saying that members are free to not believe your account due to their own experiences, hence why so many members expressed exactly that at your claims.

This is just not true. A vaginal smell is caused by a bacterial infection. The only bacterial infections classified as STIs you are likely to encounter are chlamydia or gonorrhea. Both of these will cause an odor. These are both identified with a pee test which a bargirl gets weekly. If the girl has HIV she will not smell. This is a viral infection only detected by a blood test. You will not likely get HIV from a bargirl even if she has it. Woman to man HIV transfer is almost impossible as it requires blood to blood or semen to blood. And if you're worried about this you could just take PreP and that would protect you. The fact that you think there's a weekly pap smear test shows that you don't know what you're talking about. A pap smear checks for papillomavirus in women which is generally done yearly. Most all women have HPV and get it at a young age if they haven't been vaccinated against it (the vaccine is new). The pap smear is to see if the strain of HPV has developed into something serious. Come on now, get educated.

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;2831221]For the sake of information to the board and those that might not know, claiming the weekly pap smear tests the girls sometimes attend is just what it says on the tin a pap smear test.

Trying to claim that these very simple checks are able to detect serious venerial diseases are just not true and is supplying wrong information to the board and its members, why do I say this, well no blood is taken from the girls therefore its impossible to check for any venerial diseases which might be causing that terrible Angeles pussy stench that multiple members are reporting.

Quite happy that you report your own experiences but in saying that members are free to not believe your account due to their own experiences, hence why so many members expressed exactly that at your claims.[/QUOTE]

This is annoying but let's get serious here. People like to talk abstractly about 'venereal diseases' without specifics. So let's get specific. Here's your risk.

Chlamydia: Common. Pee test detects it. Easily quickly cured with antibiotics. You can get this through oral sex but less likely.

Gonorrhea: Fairly common. Pee test detects it. Fairly easily quickly cured with antibiotics. You can get this through oral sex but less likely.

Syphilis: Pretty rare. Requires a blood test. Treated with antibiotics.

HPV: You already have it. She already has it. Condoms don't prevent it. There is no test for men. The test for women is pretty new. Certain strains can cause cervical cancer in women which is why they should get a regular pap smear.

HSV 1 and 2 (herpes): You already have had some exposure and so has she. There is no accurate test unless you have a sore. They can test for antibodies which essentially means nothing if you haven't had a breakout. There's a social stigma but it doesn't hurt you. Condoms do not prevent it.

Hepatitis A and be: Extremely rare to catch through sex but curable through antiviral medication. There are vaccines for these. You should get them.

Hepatitis see: Extremely difficult for a man to catch through sex because it requires blood to blood transference. Completely curable nowadays but it's expensive.

HIV: Requires a blood test. Extremely difficult for a man to catch during vaginal sex because it requires blood to blood or semen to blood to transfer. You can take PreP beforehand which will completely mitigate your risk. You can't get it if you are on PreP.

Life is risk / reward. Know your risk, evaluate your reward, and live.

AC bars have weekly swab tests for the bar girls. The swab is either done at the bar or at a contracted clinic. The bg shows up at a certain time interval on a certain day of the week and gets swabbed. Most labs are on Surla Street. Most labs will smear a small glass slide with the swab and later look at it under a microscope. Just like in high school lab. Some labs might, I say might have a more modern high tech microscope that does the exam. But I doubt that.

I have been to 2 labs on Surla Street in the past to test a couple of friends for UTI. At one lab the owner showed me around to see how the tests are done while we waited. One friend had a severe case of UTI. The owner showed me the respective slide under the microscope and how to count the whatever per space to determine the severity of the UTI.

She also stated that is how they do the weekly bg swab tests. Of course this was about 4 years ago but I doubt if things have changed. BTW, while I was there a few bg's came in for their clearance test. The owner told me they also dispense the meds for STD infections and then retest them a week later for clearance.

[QUOTE=FuriousGeorge;2831322]This is annoying but let's get serious here. People like to talk abstractly about 'venereal diseases' without specifics. So let's get specific. Here's your risk.

Chlamydia: Common. Pee test detects it. Easily quickly cured with antibiotics. You can get this through oral sex but less likely.

Gonorrhea: Fairly common. Pee test detects it. Fairly easily quickly cured with antibiotics. You can get this through oral sex but less likely.

Syphilis: Pretty rare. Requires a blood test. Treated with antibiotics.

HPV: You already have it. She already has it. Condoms don't prevent it. There is no test for men. The test for women is pretty new. Certain strains can cause cervical cancer in women which is why they should get a regular pap smear.

HSV 1 and 2 (herpes): You already have had some exposure and so has she. There is no accurate test unless you have a sore. They can test for antibodies which essentially means nothing if you haven't had a breakout. There's a social stigma but it doesn't hurt you. Condoms do not prevent it.

Hepatitis A and be: Extremely rare to catch through sex but curable through antiviral medication. There are vaccines for these. You should get them.

Hepatitis see: Extremely difficult for a man to catch through sex because it requires blood to blood transference. Completely curable nowadays but it's expensive.

HIV: Requires a blood test. Extremely difficult for a man to catch during vaginal sex because it requires blood to blood or semen to blood to transfer. You can take PreP beforehand which will completely mitigate your risk. You can't get it if you are on PreP.

Life is risk / reward. Know your risk, evaluate your reward, and live.[/QUOTE]Tommy Morrison and magic got hiv. You bang enough chicks bareback it's not hard to get hiv.

It's extremely hard. Think of all the heterosexuals you know with hiv. Um yeah almost none. For a heterosexual man to get it, you'd literally have to have an open weeping sore on your dick and she bleeds on it. So, not impossible, but unlikely. Anyone worried should be on PreP.

The most common way is receiving an anal creampie. Your blood vessels get exposed during the sex, then the semen gets in there. In fact, for the few times in porn that it's gotten into the hetero group, they've been able to trace it back to an anal creampie from a guy who was swinging both ways. If you ever check out The Erotic Review website, they mix in trans reviews also. A lot of times you'll read some guy's review of how he took it in the ass, and then you'll look at his review history and there are a ton of regular chicks mixed in. So, for Magic Johnson, I've always been curious. I'm guessing he either shared a needle, or experimented with receiving anal. We'll probably never know.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2831355]Tommy Morrison and magic got hiv. You bang enough chicks bareback it's not hard to get hiv.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FuriousGeorge;2831411]
So, for Magic Johnson, I've always been curious. I'm guessing he either shared a needle, or experimented with receiving anal. We'll probably never know.[/QUOTE]Honestly I feel he got it because he was fucking WAY to many females in the ass. Fucking multiple random females consecutively in the ass, going back and forth like you in a porn movie is NO BUENO. Its the reason why the disease spread so rapidly in gay males. Theres documented proof that the person giving anal caught hiv as well. The reciever has a higher probability of getting it no question but like I said the giver can still get it which is the reason why I never fuck a random female in the ass. I don't care how magnificent that ass is and how good her hygiene is at the moment I'm not rolling that dice.

If you enjoy fucking females in the ass like my man Billy Bob Thornton off Bad Santa then I highly recommend that you get her tested first to have a peace of mind.

[QUOTE=FuriousGeorge;2831411]It's extremely hard. Think of all the heterosexuals you know with hiv. Um yeah almost none. For a heterosexual man to get it, you'd literally have to have an open weeping sore on your dick and she bleeds on it. So, not impossible, but unlikely. Anyone worried should be on PreP....[/QUOTE]Contracting a STD that leads to warts or sores in the penis can dramatically increase those odds by providing a pathway. Continue ploughing though women and it's a recipe for disaster. Tommy was doing enough drugs to have Escobar on speed dial while also enjoying the groupies. Hence, the specific cause may be a mystery but it can't be a surprise.

Its a shame as both were at the very top of their sports in their prime and great to watch.

[QUOTE=CoolieHigh;2831422]If you enjoy fucking females in the ass like my man Billy Bob Thornton off Bad Santa then I highly recommend that you get her tested first to have a peace of mind.[/QUOTE]"She won't sh*t right for a month!" Billy Bob, as Bad Santa.

If you have anal with a condom you are protected as vaginal. Quit making scenarios up about magic and Tommy Morrison. We have proof they had sex with thousands of groupies bare back which is dangerous and almost guaranteed. There is a lady on YouTube that caught hiv from bareback sex from a guy she met at a bar. She was sick right after and tested positive a few weeks later. All you guys that have bareback sex with hookers are crazy. At least buy a bunch of home hiv test from Amazon and test them before. I did my home hiv test last week and tested negative as usual. In the last 20 years, I've had BBBJ from over 200 hookers and protected vaginal from 100 of those and anal from maybe 5 of those. That's a pretty good sample size to say condoms work and you can't get hiv from BBBJ. I would have caught it by now if you could get it from BBBJ.

[QUOTE=FuriousGeorge;2831313]This is just not true. A vaginal smell is caused by a bacterial infection. The only bacterial infections classified as STIs you are likely to encounter are chlamydia or gonorrhea. Both of these will cause an odor. These are both identified with a pee test which a bargirl gets weekly. If the girl has HIV she will not smell. This is a viral infection only detected by a blood test. You will not likely get HIV from a bargirl even if she has it. Woman to man HIV transfer is almost impossible as it requires blood to blood or semen to blood. And if you're worried about this you could just take PreP and that would protect you. The fact that you think there's a weekly pap smear test shows that you don't know what you're talking about. A pap smear checks for papillomavirus in women which is generally done yearly. Most all women have HPV and get it at a young age if they haven't been vaccinated against it (the vaccine is new). The pap smear is to see if the strain of HPV has developed into something serious. Come on now, get educated.[/QUOTE]There is and always has been a weekly pap smear test done in angeles paid for by the bars, its the only test that is done on the girls, the test costs 40 pesos, yes only 40 peso so exactly what do you expect to be checked? Blood tests for std screening cost upwards of 2,000 peso in angeles, yes the pap smear test its not performed the same as in the west as in angeles they only use a cotton wool bud to take the sample and then transfer to slide, its a total farce, it does not screen for anything apart from possible cervical cancer.

Therefore for the last time, get yourself educated before trying to pass on totally false statements to the members of this board, google any of the more dangerous std, s including syphillis, hepatitis, genital herpes, hiv and a host of others and you will find they can only be detected by taking a blood sample, end of story, no BS, if, s or buts.

Members for your own safety do your own reasearch and disregard those that have convinced themselves that everything is under control and little chance of catching anything that might just ruin ones life by barebacking prostitutes, the mind really does boggle at some members ignorance and what's worse they try to educate others.

Once again, it's not a pap smear. That would be pointless to do weekly. They all have HPV and likely we do too. There's no test for men. The van is a pee test or a swab test, which would only find a bacterial infection, which would be the most common thing you would get weekly. If you read my post, I went over all of the 'diseases' you mentioned, and yes many require a blood test. None of my statements were false. Genital herpes is dangerous?? It may be a little annoying, and it certainly has a social stigma, but it is not dangerous. I am not advocating for anyone to do anything. Hell I hope everyone uses a condom except for me, that would be awesome. I'm saying know your risks and make a risk / reward decision, and take pharmaceuticals to mitigate your risks if you feel you need to.

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;2831499]There is and always has been a weekly pap smear test done in angeles paid for by the bars, its the only test that is done on the girls, the test costs 40 pesos, yes only 40 peso so exactly what do you expect to be checked? Blood tests for std screening cost upwards of 2,000 peso in angeles, yes the pap smear test its not performed the same as in the west as in angeles they only use a cotton wool bud to take the sample and then transfer to slide, its a total farce, it does not screen for anything apart from possible cervical cancer.

Therefore for the last time, get yourself educated before trying to pass on totally false statements to the members of this board, google any of the more dangerous std, s including syphillis, hepatitis, genital herpes, hiv and a host of others and you will find they can only be detected by taking a blood sample, end of story, no BS, if, s or buts.

Members for your own safety do your own reasearch and disregard those that have convinced themselves that everything is under control and little chance of catching anything that might just ruin ones life by barebacking prostitutes, the mind really does boggle at some members ignorance and what's worse they try to educate others.[/QUOTE]

FG's post is not quite complete and some of the info is incorrect.

First, let me complete the list. The bacterial STDs that are most common are chlamydia, gonorrhea and syphilis. All are curable, although gonorrhea may become completely resistant in the near future. Lymphogranulopma venereum is a type of chlamydia that is distinct with painful ulcers; after these heal, lots of big lymph nodes, some of which may ulcerate. It can be very painful and lead to numerous horrible complications like anal strictures and pus filled lymph nodes. It is not common, thank God and is curable with a long course of antibiotics. Mycoplasma genitalium is a bacterium that is common but mostly asymptomatic. Its hard to diagnose and doesn't respond well to antibiotics when diagnosed. It causes pain on urination, usually goes away on its own and the long term effects are probably minimal but a lot is unknown. Probably not a major concern, even though it is common.

Hemophilus ducreyi should be added to the list. It is a bacterium and it causes chancroid, a painful disease with ulcers and big lymph nodes. It is easily cured if diagnosed (not hard to diagnose, but it is rare and some doctors are amazingly uneducated). Really rare is shigella, which is most easily caught with receptive anal sex (ie, getting fucked in the ass). Most guys on the ISG don't need to worry. One should never forget pubic lice and scabies. These are easily cured but really, really annoying. Trichomoniasis is common, doesn't cause symptoms in men, but mongerers might bring it back home where the wife or GF might get infected.

Second, this part of the post was not entirely correct: Hepatitis A has no therapy. But, it goes away on its own but one can get pretty sick. There is an excellent vaccine to prevent. Hepatitis B. can be suppressed with medications, but sometimes poorly. It is very preventable with a multidose vaccine. It is associated with cancer. As correctly stated, Hepatitis C. is curable, but the cure is expensive.

Then we get into the super rare STIs: Ebola, probably COVID19, meningococcus, maybe a large number of viruses, but who knows. These infections are curiosities, and not important considerations for your average mongerer.

[QUOTE=FuriousGeorge;2831322]This is annoying but let's get serious here. People like to talk abstractly about 'venereal diseases' without specifics. So let's get specific. Here's your risk.

Chlamydia: Common. Pee test detects it. Easily quickly cured with antibiotics. You can get this through oral sex but less likely.

Gonorrhea: Fairly common. Pee test detects it. Fairly easily quickly cured with antibiotics. You can get this through oral sex but less likely.

Syphilis: Pretty rare. Requires a blood test. Treated with antibiotics.

HPV: You already have it. She already has it. Condoms don't prevent it. There is no test for men. The test for women is pretty new. Certain strains can cause cervical cancer in women which is why they should get a regular pap smear.

HSV 1 and 2 (herpes): You already have had some exposure and so has she. There is no accurate test unless you have a sore. They can test for antibodies which essentially means nothing if you haven't had a breakout. There's a social stigma but it doesn't hurt you. Condoms do not prevent it.

Hepatitis A and be: Extremely rare to catch through sex but curable through antiviral medication. There are vaccines for these. You should get them.

Hepatitis see: Extremely difficult for a man to catch through sex because it requires blood to blood transference. Completely curable nowadays but it's expensive.

HIV: Requires a blood test. Extremely difficult for a man to catch during vaginal sex because it requires blood to blood or semen to blood to transfer. You can take PreP beforehand which will completely mitigate your risk. You can't get it if you are on PreP.

Life is risk / reward. Know your risk, evaluate your reward, and live.[/QUOTE]

Thank you. I consider this a validation of my post, since it was off of the top of my head and had only a small Hep A error. And, as stated, get the vaccine and you won't have to worry. The rare ones I didn't list because they don't factor into my risk / reward equation, but yes they are good to mention for those who think they should factor into their personal equation.

[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2831860]FG's post is not quite complete and some of the info is incorrect.

First, let me complete the list. The bacterial STDs that are most common are chlamydia, gonorrhea and syphilis. All are curable, although gonorrhea may become completely resistant in the near future. Lymphogranulopma venereum is a type of chlamydia that is distinct with painful ulcers; after these heal, lots of big lymph nodes, some of which may ulcerate. It can be very painful and lead to numerous horrible complications like anal strictures and pus filled lymph nodes. It is not common, thank God and is curable with a long course of antibiotics. Mycoplasma genitalium is a bacterium that is common but mostly asymptomatic. Its hard to diagnose and doesn't respond well to antibiotics when diagnosed. It causes pain on urination, usually goes away on its own and the long term effects are probably minimal but a lot is unknown. Probably not a major concern, even though it is common.

Hemophilus ducreyi should be added to the list. It is a bacterium and it causes chancroid, a painful disease with ulcers and big lymph nodes. It is easily cured if diagnosed (not hard to diagnose, but it is rare and some doctors are amazingly uneducated). Really rare is shigella, which is most easily caught with receptive anal sex (ie, getting fucked in the ass). Most guys on the ISG don't need to worry. One should never forget pubic lice and scabies. These are easily cured but really, really annoying. Trichomoniasis is common, doesn't cause symptoms in men, but mongerers might bring it back home where the wife or GF might get infected.

Second, this part of the post was not entirely correct: Hepatitis A has no therapy. But, it goes away on its own but one can get pretty sick. There is an excellent vaccine to prevent. Hepatitis B. can be suppressed with medications, but sometimes poorly. It is very preventable with a multidose vaccine. It is associated with cancer. As correctly stated, Hepatitis C. is curable, but the cure is expensive.

Then we get into the super rare STIs: Ebola, probably COVID19, meningococcus, maybe a large number of viruses, but who knows. These infections are curiosities, and not important considerations for your average mongerer.[/QUOTE]

Google it, watch it. I have had it on my FB for 2 years and I even reported it as fake news with my other account and it was never taken down.

STD's = BS.

Ways to remain healthy into your 100's.

First. Fast (no food or calories only water) for more than 72 hours and your body actually creates new stem cells.

Second. Buy an oxygen concentrator with full mask and do cardio exercise for 10 minutes a day breathing 91%+ oxygen.

Third. Cold Shock Therapy for 6 minutes a day and it can be done lots of ways by either a walk-in freezer or emerging yourself in cold water.

Fourth. Drink enough water every day so your pee is clear and not yellow, if it comes out yellow, drink more water. Most people need to consume less than a gallon a day.

Fifth. Eat green vegetables like spinach, arugula, kale, broccoli, and red or dark fruit like blackberries, blueberries, raspberries, cranberries, and pomegranate.

Sixth. Stretch daily, there is no coincidence that every animal stretches before moving. This will prevent injuries and pain.

Seventh. If you do get sick 2 milligrams of Azithromycin will cure almost anything. Ozone shots will stop pain.

Anyone who has had a relationship with a female would know or should know that a Pap smear test is done every 1-3 years depending on the age of the female. It is not done on a weekly basis nor is it for STD testing. The Pap smear test is done solely to test for cervical cancer. The smear is on the cervical area.

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;2831499]There is and always has been a weekly pap smear test done in angeles paid for by the bars, its the only test that is done on the girls, the test costs 40 pesos, yes only 40 peso so exactly what do you expect to be checked? Blood tests for std screening cost upwards of 2,000 peso in angeles, yes the pap smear test its not performed the same as in the west as in angeles they only use a cotton wool bud to take the sample and then transfer to slide, its a total farce, it does not screen for anything apart from possible cervical cancer.

Therefore for the last time, get yourself educated before trying to pass on totally false statements to the members of this board, google any of the more dangerous std, s including syphillis, hepatitis, genital herpes, hiv and a host of others and you will find they can only be detected by taking a blood sample, end of story, no BS, if, s or buts.

Members for your own safety do your own reasearch and disregard those that have convinced themselves that everything is under control and little chance of catching anything that might just ruin ones life by barebacking prostitutes, the mind really does boggle at some members ignorance and what's worse they try to educate others.[/QUOTE]Always a great source of information. Thank you for clearing up a murky situation.

Does anyone know where in AC I can get an full STD blood and piss test?

I'm ok with paying for that.

And how about an full blood panel with testosterone, free Test, SHBG, prolactin, estradiol and so on?

Does anyone know an good (even private) clinic for that?

[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2832698]Does anyone know where in AC I can get an full STD blood and piss test?

I'm ok with paying for that.

And how about an full blood panel with testosterone, free Test, SHBG, prolactin, estradiol and so on?

Does anyone know an good (even private) clinic for that?[/QUOTE]Sorry, can't help for AC bit of you are going to Subic it's 2700 P, literally around the corner from SM Olongapo. Results back the next day.

[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2832698]Does anyone know where in AC I can get an full STD blood and piss test?

I'm ok with paying for that.

And how about an full blood panel with testosterone, free Test, SHBG, prolactin, estradiol and so on?

Does anyone know an good (even private) clinic for that?[/QUOTE]There is a small clinic facing Queens Hotel it is on your left. I don't know the name of the street but it is small. You can ask about the other tests you want.

Or else I believe any of the doctors or pregnancy clinics you walk by should be able to do it. It is just a matter of drawing blood and sending it to a lab.

[QUOTE=FuriousGeorge;2831966]Thank you. I consider this a validation of my post, since it was off of the top of my head and had only a small Hep A error. And, as stated, get the vaccine and you won't have to worry. The rare ones I didn't list because they don't factor into my risk / reward equation, but yes they are good to mention for those who think they should factor into their personal equation.[/QUOTE]I did not mean to imply that FG's list was substantially off, only to fill out the list and correct a small error. Most of the risks of STDs can be mitigated by an STD check when one gets home from traveling-for those of us who are not ex pats. PrEP and antibiotic prophylaxis are pretty good as well, although at some time in the future the bugs will become antibiotic resistant- and doxycycline does not agree with my stomach! Of course, one can always use condoms.

We are adults here and can act upon this knowledge in accordance with our own personal calculations of risk and reward. It seems appropriate on the 4th of July to quote Thomas Jefferson: "the important truths {are} that knolege is power, that knolege is safety, and that knolege is happiness".

Many of you know I have been espousing this technique during my trips for years to great affect. Recently The New York Times recently confirmed that a single dose of doxycycline after sex is highly effective.

Some interesting excerpts from the article:

"Sexually transmitted infections have soared in recent years in the United States, prompting an urgent search for solutions. New research suggests that a widely available antibiotic, taken after sex, may help stem the tide.

A single dose of doxycycline taken within 72 hours of unprotected sex dramatically cuts the risk of a bacterial S. T. I. , studies have found. The approach seems most effective for preventing chlamydia and syphilis, and slightly less so for preventing gonorrhea.

The men who took doxycycline after sex were 84 percent less likely to contract chlamydia or syphilis and about half as likely to contract gonorrhea, compared with those who did not get the antibiotic.

The idea that doxycycline might be widely used to prevent S. T. I. S has provoked some worry about antibiotic resistance. The drug has been used for decades to treat chlamydia and syphilis without the emergence of resistant strains, but antibiotic-resistant gonorrhea is already a serious concern in many parts of the world.

In the United States, about 26 percent of gonorrhea cases in 2018 were resistant to tetracyclines. So far, however, doxycycline's use to prevent S. T. I. S does not seem to contribute to drug resistance, Dr. Luetkemeyer said. ".

[QUOTE=FuriousGeorge;2849372]Many of you know I have been espousing this technique during my trips for years to great affect. Recently The New York Times recently confirmed that a single dose of doxycycline after sex is highly effective.

Some interesting excerpts from the article:

"Sexually transmitted infections have soared in recent years in the United States, prompting an urgent search for solutions. New research suggests that a widely available antibiotic, taken after sex, may help stem the tide.

A single dose of doxycycline taken within 72 hours of unprotected sex dramatically cuts the risk of a bacterial S. T. I. , studies have found. The approach seems most effective for preventing chlamydia and syphilis, and slightly less so for preventing gonorrhea.

The men who took doxycycline after sex were 84 percent less likely to contract chlamydia or syphilis and about half as likely to contract gonorrhea, compared with those who did not get the antibiotic.

The idea that doxycycline might be widely used to prevent S. T. I. S has provoked some worry about antibiotic resistance. The drug has been used for decades to treat chlamydia and syphilis without the emergence of resistant strains, but antibiotic-resistant gonorrhea is already a serious concern in many parts of the world.

In the United States, about 26 percent of gonorrhea cases in 2018 were resistant to tetracyclines. So far, however, doxycycline's use to prevent S. T. I. S does not seem to contribute to drug resistance, Dr. Luetkemeyer said. ".[/QUOTE]Today I was in the pharmacy purchasing ulcer (Tums) medication in Angeles. I heard the guy next to me asking for Doxycycline. The young lady told him he needed a doctor's prescription. Sounds like the authorities are clamping down on antibiotic use among other things. If why'all plan to dip in these ladies 🫣129763;128561; without protection bring all your own medications with you 🤭. The threat is real!

[QUOTE=Undakovabrotha;2852330]Today I was in the pharmacy purchasing ulcer (Tums) medication in Angeles. I heard the guy next to me asking for Doxycycline. The young lady told him he needed a doctor's prescription. Sounds like the authorities are clamping down on antibiotic use among other things. If why'all plan to dip in these ladies 🫣129763;128561; without protection bring all your own medications with you 🤭. The threat is real![/QUOTE]The crackdown of more pharmacies asking for the script started a few years back, possibly around Covid. However its hit / miss. Some pharmacies rarely* ask, others usually ask. Also depends on how busy the pharmacy is at the moment you walk in the door, and might depend on which clerk you get. Be willing to try several pharmacies.

* As an example, the pharmacy inside Robinson's Malate grocery store entrance (Adriatico St, named STAR?) has never asked me for a script for vitamin V (5-pill pack, 100 MG, p1300). Not sure about AC.

[QUOTE=FuriousGeorge;2849372]

In the United States, about 26 percent of gonorrhea cases in 2018 were resistant to tetracyclines. So far, however, doxycycline's use to prevent S. T. I. S does not seem to contribute to drug resistance, Dr. Luetkemeyer said. ".[/QUOTE]Who could trust a dude with a name like that?. Doctor Papafaggis?. He forgot to tell you how you wipe out all your gut flora each time you pop a broad spectrum antibiotic, but never mind, it's about priorities. OS has just got results back today after 4 years of bb'ing everything he could get his hands on in Indonesia and all those hardened old Chinese boilers in Australia and all negative. The hack in OS's perverted mind. Betadine soap for a wash afterwards and don't blow your load inside the lady although OS regularly falls foul of his own guidelines on this one.

OS has a close friend that was the go to high level antibiotic consultant within the UK NHS and who is convinced that antibiotic resistance is shaping up to be one of the major health issues of the next generation.

A tricky job balancing our lustful needs against the greater public good.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2852355]The crackdown of more pharmacies asking for the script started a few years back, possibly around Covid. However its hit / miss. Some pharmacies rarely* ask, others usually ask. Also depends on how busy the pharmacy is at the moment you walk in the door, and might depend on which clerk you get. Be willing to try several pharmacies.

* As an example, the pharmacy inside Robinson's Malate grocery store entrance (Adriatico St, named STAR?) has never asked me for a script for vitamin V (5-pill pack, 100 MG, p1300). Not sure about AC.[/QUOTE]West Coast dropping the knowledge.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2852355]The crackdown of more pharmacies asking for the script started a few years back, possibly around Covid. However its hit / miss. Some pharmacies rarely* ask, others usually ask. Also depends on how busy the pharmacy is at the moment you walk in the door, and might depend on which clerk you get. Be willing to try several pharmacies.

* As an example, the pharmacy inside Robinson's Malate grocery store entrance (Adriatico St, named STAR?) has never asked me for a script for vitamin V (5-pill pack, 100 MG, p1300). Not sure about AC.[/QUOTE]I thought I was the only person who knew about that pharmacy. They do sell without a prescription. Much better than Watson's or Mercury.

[QUOTE=MrHawaii;2852628]I thought I was the only person who knew about that pharmacy. They do sell without a prescription. Much better than Watson's or Mercury.[/QUOTE]Price-wise, yes, much better V price than other pharmacies. Its about p260/ pill. You can break them in half for 50 MG each, and get 10 doses (p130/ dose). The stuff's effects last for hours, giving 1-2-3 pops per dose (lets call it 2 pops, p65/ pop). Is that math right? Its possible that I've been having too much pink-joy lately and my mind is a bit fried.

The same pharmacy has similar prices on other products as other pharmacies. They also accept credit card.

Is the morning after pill legal in the Philippines? Are the girls there on birth control? Trying to plan a trip in January. Was just curious.

[QUOTE=Yungtwntysluvr;2862172]Is the morning after pill legal in the Philippines? Are the girls there on birth control? Trying to plan a trip in January. Was just curious.[/QUOTE]Bring your own pills. You can order on Amazon. Most are not on birth control. Curious or be responsible.

Daphne is easy to get otc in any pharmacy in Philippines. If you arrange with a girl before your visit, ask her to take it for a couple of days before you arrive and you will be fine. Just remember that it is still risky because if she fucks you without a condom, she is probably doing the same with everyone else she sees.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2852355]The crackdown of more pharmacies asking for the script started a few years back, possibly around Covid. However its hit / miss. Some pharmacies rarely* ask, others usually ask. Also depends on how busy the pharmacy is at the moment you walk in the door, and might depend on which clerk you get. Be willing to try several pharmacies.

* As an example, the pharmacy inside Robinson's Malate grocery store entrance (Adriatico St, named STAR?) has never asked me for a script for vitamin V (5-pill pack, 100 MG, p1300). Not sure about AC.[/QUOTE]Maybe its just me but there are several Mercury drug stores in Makati and I've never had any trouble with V as they offer generic or the real thing. I generally use the store beside the Berjaya Hotel. Don't know about antibiotics as I always bring a couple Z-packs with me. As far as morning after pill that's a no no in the Philippines. I pick those up in Vietnam where they are readily available at any drug store.

I have cheap and legit source of tadalafil in my country and I wanted to bring it the to the Philippines for my own use. Has anyone encountered any problem with bringing your own tadalafil?

[QUOTE=Locamotive;2863283]As far as morning after pill that's a no no in the Philippines.[/QUOTE]Are you sure about that? I've never bought it myself but have known several girls who have said they use it. Whether it was the real deal or not, I have no idea.

Maybe it was just an overdose of the regular pill.

Cheers. G.

[QUOTE=Locamotive;2863283]Maybe its just me but there are several Mercury drug stores in Makati and I've never had any trouble with V as they offer generic or the real thing. I generally use the store beside the Berjaya Hotel. Don't know about antibiotics as I always bring a couple Z-packs with me. As far as morning after pill that's a no no in the Philippines. I pick those up in Vietnam where they are readily available at any drug store.[/QUOTE]Unless you are going to a high-end Watson's that for some reason documents prescriptions received (and probably not even then) you don't need a real doctor's prescription to get anything in the Philippines. Any piker capable of using Microsoft Word or Adobe can write a decent looking script on their own and simply show it digitally on the phone at a Mercury drug store to get what they want. Just like the COVID reporting forms we used to have to fill out for entering the country, there is a lot of data entry but is anyone doing anything with it?

[QUOTE=Goferring;2863330]Are you sure about that? I've never bought it myself but have known several girls who have said they use it. Whether it was the real deal or not, I have no idea.

Maybe it was just an overdose of the regular pill.

Cheers. G.[/QUOTE]Pretty sure of course anything is possible. While they know me at my favorite Mercury I had a tablet pack from Vietnam which I showed the Pharmacist. Do you have this. No. Not available in the Philippines.

As I mentioned I just pick up a ample supply while in Vietnam. Are the girls taking something with a similar effect, its possible, are they getting it at a Drug store, I doubt it.

[QUOTE=RegsyReg;2863322]I have cheap and legit source of tadalafil in my country and I wanted to bring it the to the Philippines for my own use. Has anyone encountered any problem with bringing your own tadalafil?[/QUOTE]Never had a problem, I always bring the original script Bottle for "just in case" questions at baggage check but have never been asked.

Are Filipinas agree with take morning pill after a creampie? Pros or amateurs? City or province? Not guilty feeling after it? I'm really curious about it.