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I have been in BJ for about 4 days and I thought I'd try the famous Maggies last night for New Years Eve thinking that they must do something special. As I had never been before I wasnt sure what to expect, I learnt quite a lot and wanted to share with any of you newbies and visitors to BJ (non- expats).
The bar is in a quiet area and quite safe, the style is of an American country bar with a pool table and a large central bar area (doesnt apeal to me but some will like it). Basically, the bar is for foreigners ONLY, this includes WGs. The only Chinese there are all working for Maggies as bar girls or bar men, no Chinese patrons are allowed. The 'bar girls' are in fact hostesses whose sole function is to entertain you and to get you to buy them drinks, they will nearly always ask for a long island iced tea at 80RMB each (about USD11). I sipped one and it didnt seem to contain any alcohol. One of my hostesses was very honest and explained the deal. The bar girls are not allowed to leave with the customers or they will get sacked, (some do anyway). They have to bring in about 5 drinks per night to keep their jobs, if they do not chat to enough people and drink plenty of drinks, they get 'talked' to by the boss. For this reason I suspect that their drinks are specially formulated to omit alcohol as they will not be much good plastered. Also they will take frequent 'bathroom' breaks to make sure they can drink more.
They will happily assist you in picking out the Mongolians (they themsleves refer to Maggies as a Mongolian bar) though there is one Pakistani as well as a few Russians apparently, though I didnt see any. The Mongolians have a very different appearance than the Chinese to those who can tell these things (i can) they do not have the same refinement of features and internal grace of the Chinese and tend to be all North - South with not much going on in the equatorial region, though they usualy have good stacks. I didnt see any above about 8, mostly around 6-7 on the Richter scale, even saw some 4-5s if that takes your fancy.
Even on New Year's Eve there was nothing going on before about 12am. The problem with this is that if you pick up a girl and take her back to your hotel then you can't be certain that you will be able to get her in (I stayed at the Pen and already talked to one of the guys and agreed that I will be bringing someone, although I didn't after all) but I am not sure that you will be able to get girls into some hotels at around 1-2am. So this means that unless you are an expat and actualy live in BJ in your own apartment then you might want to stay clear of Maggies, due mainly to the lateness of any availability. The going rate is 700-800RMB for 'all night', but remember 'all night' starts at around 2am.
The hostesses I talked to were charming and not pushy at all and were happy enough to give over their phone numbers for post maggies contact but they claim to be virgins (and I am quite certain they were).
They also work for tips so they will ask you for some money before you leave, I didn't give any as I had bought lots of drinks. They are happy enough to crawl all over you and are very tactile, clearly programmed to get you to stay longer at the bar.
Overall even I found Maggies a bit sleazy and lacking class (and I am no saint) I am not sure I would recommend this place to any newbs or plain vistitors to BJ, or those who find Chinese women extraordinarily attractive like I do, hence I left empty handed and after looking forwards to a New Yers eve filled with debauchery I went to sleep like a saint....ahhhh.
I am not sure where else to recommend (I might try the Pig in the Holiday Inn Lido tonight though this is well out of downtown) as I havent had much luck while in BJ but unless you live here and/or can't tell the difference between a Mongolian and a Chinese then Maggies may not be your best options.
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Some places are just legit. Some places are very specific in not offering services that are not requested.
There's a Korean sauna that I went to a couple of times that offered me and seemed to offer nothing but legit services (perhaps we're talking about the same place). Only recently did I find out there's another side to the business, but still have never tried it. It's on the list for 2007.
I have been to Chun Xiu Lu several times. I still like the plance (I think). I always going with the same girl (No. 863). She my style girl. I agree that the place is a little mechanical, but I enjoy the going in and being able to take off afterwords. For some reason since my GF moved out of China, the stay overs with the Maggie girls just has not worked for me.
Intersted in feedback about a couple of things (i) First can someone tryout 863, let me know their thoughts on her.
Any thoughs on why I am no longer into the overnighters?
[QUOTE=Senu]Anybody tried buying V from the sex shop.....[/QUOTE]
Why try? Why not just go to ANY pharmacy and buy there? They all have Viagra posters outside. Seems one of their main selling items.
[QUOTE=Jason1831].....Home Inn, and found out that they actually have a short term stay. .....
Home Inn is a relatively new hotel chain in Beijing...[/QUOTE]
Home Inn has 25 locations in Beijing and probably 150+ all over China. The 6 hour short term stay near GuoMao Subway Station is rmb120. Normal stay is about a bit below 300 (or so). All rooms have broadband internet.
If you read Chinese you can get info here: [url]http://www.homeinns.com/[/url]
Note: Home Inn's are also quite in demand with Chinese people, you REALLY SHOULD book in advance! I tried 2 Beijing locations and both were full. I finally stayed in "Mei Shan York Hotel", near FuChengmen Subway, 010/68520018 - double is 238, clean and also has broadband in every room.
[QUOTE=Feet 6279]I have been to Chun Xiu Lu several times. I still like the plance (I think). I always going with the same girl (No. 863). She my style girl. I agree that the place is a little mechanical, but I enjoy the going in and being able to take off afterwords. For some reason since my GF moved out of China, the stay overs with the Maggie girls just has not worked for me.
Intersted in feedback about a couple of things (i) First can someone tryout 863, let me know their thoughts on her.
Any thoughs on why I am no longer into the overnighters?[/QUOTE]I have been to Chun Xiu twice and both times saw 863, definately the best of the group. Nice attitude and definately GFE. Have not tried overnighters, don't think they are worth it. Find a non-pro instead, they won't be in a hurry to leave.
Just my 2 RMB.
BYW, why is BJ so damn expensive? I had a 20 year old in Shanghai for only 150.
I was at Chun Xiu in late November - went quite late at night - and had a very mediocore experience. The place clearly has potential but it was a ghost town when I was there, and my girl was pretty big /tall /husky (not overweight) - even by western standard, and that basically turned me off. I mean, Jesus, she had huge tits for a Chinese gal but she was just too tall. I haven't done anyone my own size in a long time and that turned me off. My detailed Report is in the works and will appear soon.
[QUOTE=Ragnarok42]I have been to Chun Xiu twice and both times saw 863, definately the best of the group. Nice attitude and definately GFE. Have not tried overnighters, don't think they are worth it. Find a non-pro instead, they won't be in a hurry to leave.
Just my 2 RMB.
BYW, why is BJ so damn expensive? I had a 20 year old in Shanghai for only 150.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ChickenLover]I have been in BJ for about 4 days and I thought I'd try the famous Maggies last night for New Years Eve thinking that they must do something special. As I had never been before I wasnt sure what to expect, I learnt quite a lot and wanted to share with any of you newbies and visitors to BJ (non- expats).[/QUOTE]If you went there New Year's Eve, the you picked the singlemost worst night of the year: Most laowei safely back in the US or Europe, all the good bar girls had their day off. We were there that night and it was dead. The few representatives of the Mongolian Embassy complained about not enough business. Come again in a few weeks and re-evaluate!
Apart from that, the report is pretty accurate. I applaud the poster for collecting all that info in one slow night. I'd take objection against Maggie's being "seedy." Old Maggie's was seedy, and that gave it charm. New Maggie's is the best and safest bet in town. And the Mongolian talent usually is more enthusiastic than the local variety.
Update for the regulars: We lost Sissy, the most beautiful of all the hostesses. She decided to hang up the job. Be nice to Linda, and tip her well, she's now in charge of the bar girls.
Current best bet: Doogie (yeah, that's her name) Tall Mongolian, average face, but huge tits. My comment to her after a long night in which neither of us slept: "Sweetheart, this is supposed to be work for you." She had her sister come visit around Christmas, and if you missed that: You could have had bonafide sisters, two years apart, and equally stacked.
Message for the cheapskates: Tip the bar girl RMB 500. They are working hard for that. Spend one evening in a Tokyo hostess bar, and you will appreciate the value.
[QUOTE=Intransit] I actually went for Midnight Mass on Christmas Eve, of all things. Brothers, it's good to be back.[/QUOTE]Midnight Mass on Christmas Eve was great, Amen. Good to have you back, brother.
DayNight I thought you need doctor prescriptions to buy viagra at drug stores / pharmacies.
Also, are they real, I heard from some posts that they sell fake ones.
I don't know, and never bought them before so I was wondering if you bought them at drug stores/pharmacies before without prescriptions.
[QUOTE=Tonicma]DayNight I thought you need doctor prescriptions to buy viagra at drug stores / pharmacies. [/QUOTE]
Not in China. Or maybe in theory. In practice they sell over the the counter. Why not just walk in and try to buy?
[QUOTE]Also, are they real, I heard from some posts that they sell fake ones.[/QUOTE]
Pfizer is selling A LOT in China, so they can't be all fakes. But for exactly THAT reason I rather buy in a large chain pharmacy then a small one or a sex shop.
PS: I would stay away from all those herbal or whatever stuff. There are no clinical trials and the manufacturers give a damn if you die or not.
[QUOTE=DayNight]PS: I would stay away from all those herbal or whatever stuff. There are no clinical trials and the manufacturers give a damn if you die or not.[/QUOTE]The herbals are mostly junk.
For a really good time, try Cialis instead of Viagra. Much smoother, and lasts much longer.
Hi,
Does anyone know any place in Beijng where they offer the red rope services? If you dont know that it is, check the photo section.
Red rope places? Anyone knows?
Hello everybody,
I'm a semi-lurker who comes to China frequently for work; the typical monger profile. I generaly spend time in Shanghai and Southern china/HK and do not know Beijing well at all. I'd love to get together with somebody from the board in the next few days if possible as I'm leaving on the 7th. If you guys are in Shanghai or down towards the South china area, I'd gladly recprocate. Mongering always seems more fun in numbers. Anyway, pm me if any of you have time.
Thanks
Only red ropes places I know are based in Shanghai.
Please refer to that thread for more information.
[QUOTE=Pathfinder222]Red rope places? Anyone knows?[/QUOTE]
Hey guys,
I'll be laying over in beijing on the way home to central asia for two days, looking to stay in a girl friendly hotel near maggie's. Any quick suggestions?
Cheers,
JM
Sammy are you around on Tuesday night?
I will be meeting Intransit at Maggies and would love you to 'bless' us with your presence.
Any others want to hook up simply look for 2 astonishingly handsome, worldly and debonair gentlemen aproximately mid bar.
[QUOTE=Jan Michael]Hey guys,
I'll be laying over in beijing on the way home to central asia for two days, looking to stay in a girl friendly hotel near maggie's. Any quick suggestions?
Cheers,
JM[/QUOTE]Dear Jan Michael,
When planning to visit a new location for P4P, its always a good idea to RTFF, as you never know when you might uncover a post or two of interest. As an example, check the post below to see if there is anything helpful for you.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=542217&postcount=4916[/url]
I am looking for a guide who is available to help me chase down hot girls in Beijing. I can find the Pig and Maggies by myself- I am looking to check out the places in the city that an outsider with NO CHINESE LANGUAGE SKILLS can experience.
If you are such a person, or know of such a person, please send me a PM. Thanks F
[QUOTE=Forest]I am looking for a guide who is available to help me chase down hot girls in Beijing. I can find the Pig and Maggies by myself- I am looking to check out the places in the city that an outsider with NO CHINESE LANGUAGE SKILLS can experience.
If you are such a person, or know of such a person, please send me a PM. Thanks F[/QUOTE]
Forest..............Forest..............Forest.............my good friend.............I probably will not be around to 'babysit' you this time.............just kidding mate.............I will only be in Beijing Jan 9 for 1 night...........when are you due in town?
Sammy T will be your best bet.................or Intransit.............hopefully I will see both of them Tues night.
I will fill them in as to your devious, depraved nature...............I am sure they will be willing to help such a 'man of the world' as you.
By the way...................when are you in Rio next?
I don't think I can get to Rio until June.
Did you get to Africa?
Now one place you gotta try this time is Hollywood - Sammy can steer you there.............it will knock your sox off...............50+ blonde Russian hookers all dying to get naked with you.
BUT
It aint no Rio - no GFE experience with these 'ladies'...............strictly business...............but I know you just HAVE to see this place.
Have fun my friend.
Hi,
Does anybody know where I can buy real Victoria Secret products here in Beijing? I have been to several major shopping centers but have not seen the name. I want my girl to buy some sexy victoria secret lingeries for me to see.
Hope you guys can help.
[QUOTE=Tonicma]Hi,
Does anybody know where I can buy real Victoria Secret products here in Beijing? I have been to several major shopping centers but have not seen the name. I want my girl to buy some sexy victoria secret lingeries for me to see.
Hope you guys can help.[/QUOTE]
I have seen some lingerie places while driving around Beijing, albeit no VS.
Unfortunately, I did not stop in, and I would like to find a local lingerie place in Beijing as well.
You can order online from Victoria Secret USA and have them delivered to an address in China. There is some international shipping fee, but it is not too bad. Of course, the girl may find out your address in the US and other info. You can have it sent as a gift with no receipt in order to minimize the info she can get from the package.
Please let me know how it turns out, I would like to get my girl some sexy lingerie as well and prefer not to have too much China activity on my US credit card, VC account, etc, and it is equally troublesome for me to shop and transport lingerie from the US when I visit.
It is also preferable to go to the place together and make sure to get all the correct sizes and clothing that she will enjoy wearing and you will enjoy rogering her in in case either of you is a picky type.
Of course, some of these country girls think lingerie is just additional underwear and will wear it around the house mixed with other items in completely non-sultry conditions that just make me shake my head.
And, having not been in a local place, I have no idea as to the quality or selection, and am concerned that both will be lacking.
Should you pass through Japan, it is very easy to buy good quality lingerie from a wide selection at the Don Quiote stores. They are cheap, stretchy, one-size fits most costumes that will please anyone.
I just have visions of sack cloth and canvas when I think of buying lingerie in China.
I hope you will let us (me) know how you fare.
CJW
[QUOTE=Tonicma]Hi,
Does anybody know where I can buy real Victoria Secret products here in Beijing? I have been to several major shopping centers but have not seen the name. I want my girl to buy some sexy victoria secret lingeries for me to see.
Hope you guys can help.[/QUOTE]You can usually find branded clothing items in small shops. I know in Shanghai, there are numerous factory overrun shops that get the factory seconds. I have seen Gap, Tommy, Timbuktu bags, even lingerie. However, I am not sure where these shops are in Beijing.
I plan on being in Beijing from Jan 27 to Feb 1 and will be staying near Tsinghua University.
What are good hotels near to the University and P4P places?
Or would it be better to stay somewhere else and commute to the University in the morning?
What are the main P4P places I should hit?
Anyone interested in should a newby around? I understand some Chinese since I am ABC.
Thanks
Atapchee,
I would recommend investing in a tube of your favorite hand lotion. There isn't much action out that way, and commuting from the city center to Tsinghua would be long and brutal. However, as an ABC who understands some Chinese, you could try picking up university students, although that's hit-or-miss.
[QUOTE=Atapchee]I plan on being in Beijing from Jan 27 to Feb 1 and will be staying near Tsinghua University.
What are good hotels near to the University and P4P places?
Or would it be better to stay somewhere else and commute to the University in the morning?
What are the main P4P places I should hit?
Anyone interested in should a newby around? I understand some Chinese since I am ABC.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't count on getting a freebie over such a short time period.
It's only a few days, what is a taxi one way going to cost? 30-40 RMB (5$)?
I recommend that you stay somewhere more central and take a taxi to/from the U.
Worst case, just dial "0" and order room service from the hotel massage.
It will also give you an excuse to ditch people from the U who might impede your playing.
Remember, you will also have the nights of the 27th and the 31st to party, don't want to be stuck at the U.
Let's keep our priorities straight: get pussy then worry about other crap.
CJW
One option is to buy online [url]http://shop33838998.taobao.com/[/url] I have bought here, I just sent the money to the bank account and got the stuff delivered. You can also use Paypal.
She is based in SH but deliveres anywhere as long as she gets the money.
Is best to email her a few times to make sure you are getting what you want and that size etc is OK. If you are fussy then its maybe not the best option as you can't see the actual item before you buy.
I was happy with what I bought,,ie I ripped it off my girl very quickly,,,
[QUOTE=Crazy Jim Wood]I wouldn't count on getting a freebie over such a short time period.
It's only a few days, what is a taxi one way going to cost? 30-40 RMB (5$)?
I recommend that you stay somewhere more central and take a taxi to/from the U.
Worst case, just dial "0" and order room service from the hotel massage.
It will also give you an excuse to ditch people from the U who might impede your playing.
Remember, you will also have the nights of the 27th and the 31st to party, don't want to be stuck at the U.
Let's keep our priorities straight: get pussy then worry about other crap.
CJW[/QUOTE]
I agree that freebies are not easy to find on short notice but low cost sex (200-300 RMB) is available near Qinghua. There are posts about saunas and "tea houses" on this board. If you have further questions. PM me.
My international flight arrived to Beijing and I arranged a meeting here and stayed overnight. I styaed in Hotel Taiwan, four star near Tianmen square. The hotel was old, lousy, and deprived of KTV or sauna. Next to the hotel, there were three saunas-MP.
I tried one, and the lady spent an excellent hour of full massage, no sex! She claimed that it is forbidden, even to come to my room. On the way to MP, I met a mamasan, who offered me lady at 300 RMB, saw the lady, and deceided to go for it, but the hotel rejected her entry in.
That was my disappointment, although I knew that KTVs were already down in Beijing, I believe a cover up for the upcoming Olympic games.
I did not have a chance to go over latest reports to try another choice. Hope next time I wont be in Beijing or read in advance.
Masum
Saw this today in the new scientist.
The rate of syphilis in China has skyrocketed, increasing 25-fold since the early 1990s, according to a new report from a government health agency. Researchers blame the re-emergence of the sexually transmitted disease on increases in prostitution and premarital sex, inadequate screening services, and other factors.
When the Communist party assumed power in China in 1949, the country was experiencing one of the worst syphilis epidemics in human history. At the time an estimated 5% of people in some large cities carried the disease.
The new government enacted swift changes to stem the syphilis epidemic. For example, it implemented wide screening and free treatment for the disease and clamped down on prostitution. These changes led to the virtual elimination of syphilis within China.
However new data from China suggest that the rapid social and economic changes there over the past two decades have encouraged the re-emergence of the disease. Data from hospitals and STD clinics around the country report that the rate of syphilis has jumped from 0.2 cases per 100,000 people in 1993 to 5.7 per 100,000 in 2005. In the city of Shanghai the rate is estimated to be as high as 55 cases per 100,000 individuals. The data comes from an analysis by China’s National Center for STD Control in Nanjing.
Myron Cohen at the University of North Carolina in Chapel Hill, US, who worked with the Chinese researchers on the study, expects the rate of syphilis infection to continue rising: “It’s going to get worse before it gets better.”
newscientist.com/article/dn10940-syphilis-rates-skyrocket-in-china.html
[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]Now one place you gotta try this time is Hollywood. Sammy can steer you there. It will knock your sox off. 50+ blonde Russian hookers all dying to get naked with you.
BUT
It aint no Rio. No GFE experience with these 'ladies'. Strictly business. But I know you just HAVE to see this place. Have fun my friend. [/QUOTE]I'm gonna have to disagree. I've been to BJ twice in the last two years and I have have three outstanding GFE experiences from gorgeous Hollywood girls. One to the point that I kept her all night several nights. Getting a GFE at Hollywood is no different than getting a GFE anywhere else. Yes a lot of the girls at Hollywood are all attitude (unfortunately including at least one with a spectacular rack) but my advice is to try and strike up a conversation and see if you can detect anything friendly.
Time of year matters a bit too. If you can get girls that have been in-country for a month or less I think your chances of a good experience are better. Be kind, courteous, clean, and respectful and you might just be surprised (*I* was certainly surprised the last time I was there).
I sure wish I was with one now, but I guess the weather is probably pretty brutal right now.
I have got Pfizer viagra, however I have been trying to find Cialis without a prescription somewhere, asked several pharmacies but they all say I need prescription.
I like Cialis over Pfizer since I heard Cialis lasts 24 to 36 hours while Pfizer only last 4 hours. That means I get a better bang for the buck with Cialis plus the fact that I can have sex with my girl anywhere anytime.
Have anybody seen Cialis been sold without prescription, if so please message me.
For now I will just have to do with my limited 4 hours a day.
I was hesitant to put up this second installment of a trip report (for Beijing), following my first post (Part I - Zhuhai at [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=544705&postcount=884[/url]) due simply to the lack of substantial information - be suitably forewarned:
Social engagements in Beijing did not allow much time for any serious mongering. I wasnt particularly interested in the MP/sauna scene having partaken in Zhuhai and so spent the available time at hand mainly on the FL scene at discos.
Checked out Mix (Workers' Stadium) and Banana (behind Scitech Plaza) on 2 seperate evenings. Didnt encounter any FLs at Mix, which seemed to have a younger hip-hop crowd. Maybe I didnt stick around long enough.
The scene is alive and well for FLs at Banana! On the first visit was approached by several ladies while nursing 40 RMB whiskey and cokes in the main room - picked a little spinner from Haerbin who ended up spending most of the evening (till about 4 am - they close at 6) dancing and drinking with me. According to her there are quite a few ladies who work the main room - they blend in with the crowd but will approach unaccompanied males. She seemed to report to a 'mamasan' but this may refer to an 'elder sister' who also works. By the time 4 am rolled by I was definitely ready to take her home and so communicated my intentions but she wouldnt put out, not at any price!!! Told me she could introduce me to those who would, but also that she'd go with me if I were to return the following night to see her but I didnt want to play this game. Disengaged and tipped her RMB 400 for her time. She was great company and a really good dancer who knew how to be the perfect little c***tease. Maybe that was what I was in the mood for that night.
I was in Beijing for a couple of days on my way to Mongolia to visit my non-pro gal pal. I received an amazing foot massage from a fresh faced little sweetheart from Anhui. If you walk toward Jiangoumen from the Scitech plaza and hang a left at McD's and another left as the street curves left you will see a massage place. I was actually looking for a legit foot massage, which I got and I made friends with the xiaojie who said why dont you come back for shoulder massage. Sounded good so I came back and got a 168 yuan full body oil massage. She had really powerful hands for a little xiaojie and it was a very serious massage. At the end she was working around my tool and she says 400 for happy end. I tried to bargain but she was not budging from the price, I did the math and what the hell she was real cute so I said OK. She gave me a hand job with a smile and I walked out a happy man.
Later I stopped by the new Maggie's on Saturday night. It is swell and everyone should stop whining about the quality; it was a full-on festa of babes from the steppes. Still one of the great bars on the planet and good to see guys my age out having a good time.
Peace out from the Blue Mist
I am in BJ for the first time in 2 days. Staying at Holiday Inn central plaza. Is this place girl friendly? Also how go get to Maggie's or the Pig from here? What are these places actually called? Also I am of African origin. Does this pose a problem picking girls in BJ?
Thanks in advance
Kunna
[QUOTE=Kunna]I am in BJ for the first time in 2 days. Staying at Holiday Inn central plaza. Is this place girl friendly? Also how go get to Maggie's or the Pig from here? What are these places actually called? Also I am of African origin. Does this pose a problem picking girls in BJ?
Thanks in advance
Kunna[/QUOTE]
I will be the first to tell you and I am sure I will not be last. RTFF Kunna!!!
All your questions are answered there already.
ES
Gentlemen,
Thank you all for the great advice. I am a better consumer because of what I read on this forum. I recently arrived in Beijing for work and I will be here for six months. Last night I tried HRC. It was great and I took out a girl from An Hui. Besides a great figure, she did everything I wanted. The only issue is she wanted 2000 at first and I said no way because everyone said 600 is max you should pay for a short period. She replied that every girl is different. So I paid 1000. Is she right?
Best,
Rast
Ever since Xmas i have had a lot of difficulty accessing this site outside my work (I am not to keen on accessing this site at work). Someone told me that the problem is common in beijing and could be linked to the earthquake in Taiwan. Anyway i finally decided to risk posting something at work.
I went down memory lane this weekend and visited passions – the place is still basically the same layout but extensively renovated. I found the techno lights good, but the bar has been extended making the whole place look smaller. In fact most of the renovations have seemed to make the whole place smaller – upstairs has been blocked off with privacy screens and downstairs have rather large booths which are semi-private. I get the impression they started out by trying to duplicate the babyface decor – which has lots of private areas for you to entertain with only a small public area. However babyface depends on a lot of locals turning up – and i get the impression this is not occurring. So its falling back to its old business model, which is as follows;
Pay RM100 to get in, this give you a drink. You can then sit at the bar, or one of the very uncomfortable small tables around the almost non-existent dance floor. There are also high tables located in the centre of the old dance floor, but this is rather exposed. (I think they do this on purpose so you don't hang around) Eventually someone will come around and ask you if you wish a girl – once you have selected someone you can then retire to one of the semi-private booths. I did not partake in the “booth” experience so have no idea how much it costs – it use to be RM500 back in the old days. Based on previous posts the girls are available for take-out, but i do not know how much they ask for – i assume a lot up front.
As for the girls, they are the normal passions style – tall and thin. Some had very nice faces, some so-so – but all had very nice bodies. For those who hang around the pig, or even the local KTVs close to Passions, where a lot of the girls are rather solid, this will come as a pleasant surprise. I only counted a dozen girls free, with about 3 booths occupied down stairs. Passions use to have a large KTV set-up, so its possible there are many other girls in the KTV rooms.
The biggest different is the aggressiveness – back in the old days you would normally be confronted by about a dozen girls demanding you select one immediately. This new place allows you to buy a drink and actually sit down before 1 or 2 girls come up to you, politely asking if you wanted a girl. As i only wanted to check the place out i appreciated this lack of aggression.
As for an update on the other regular hangouts, it seems the Chinese girls are back at the pig, i can' say there are any stunners, but a good average supply of local ladies. I noticed the aggression level is high at the pig right now and as normal the aggressive girls are all ugly, beware.
The mama-sans are back in force at the Sheraton parking lot, but not around starbucks. There are only a few very low-keyed free-lancers who stay well away from the starbucks entrance – so clearly the guards are keeping them away.
Hollywood is as weird as ever, i dropped by on Thursday evening and there were almost no guys in the place and a good supply of CIS girls. I was too tired to partake, but the selection was very good for this time of year. However on Friday the situation was reversed, most of the girls i saw on Thursday were no-where to be seen and there were a lot of guys, in short not a good ratio. My theory is business is slow and on Friday and Saturday evenings the girls go elsewhere, perhaps the Den or the Hard Rock.
Why not just go get a prescription then? Doctors in China don't give a shit. Say you can't get it up, pay your fee and they will give you one. Tell them you want Cialis. It should't take too long and doctors are cheap here.
[QUOTE=Tonicma]I have got Pfizer viagra, however I have been trying to find Cialis without a prescription somewhere, asked several pharmacies but they all say I need prescription.
I like Cialis over Pfizer since I heard Cialis lasts 24 to 36 hours while Pfizer only last 4 hours. That means I get a better bang for the buck with Cialis plus the fact that I can have sex with my girl anywhere anytime.
Have anybody seen Cialis been sold without prescription, if so please message me.
For now I will just have to do with my limited 4 hours a day.[/QUOTE]
Does anyone hanve any info on the SAS Radisson being girl friendly?
[QUOTE=Econ Man]Does anyone hanve any info on the SAS Radisson being girl friendly?[/QUOTE]No problems when I last stayed there (12 months ago - tend to stay at the Rosedale now)
I've changed focus from Thailand to China in several ways, also concerning the sourcing of personal supplies. I'd like to find a new, reliable tailor for suits in Beijing. My preferred tailor in Bangkok can make a great quality suit (jacket and pants) with Japanese cloth for USD 130 and with Italian cloth for USD 200 all-in (labor and material costs, several fittings, fixed price for all customers) in 10 days.
Does anybody have experience buying such stuff in Beijing and are there some specific shops to be recommended?
I'm not looking for shops that cater only to foreigners/tourists or that sell pseudo Armani/Boss etc. suits. I will be on the road with locals so language won't be a problem and I can bring a sample suit to show the design.
Any recommendations highly appreciated.
Thanks
Does anyon have information about the Lilly Health Club in Beijing?
[url]www.sayoli.com[/url]
Thanks
Tried the above again a few days ago, had been there last year and some decent experience. This is on the road between the Hard Rock and the small river, before you then get to Lufthansa Center.
I said 'tried', although that's not true strictly speaking, as I got so pissed off by the Mama's behaviour that I left.
First she wants 1100 for full service in the normal room and 1500 in the private room (Last year, I paid 800 and 1100 respectively, even got a deal 1200 for two once). I agree to take the private room, then she doesn't want to bring in a line-up for me to pick (cause it's unfair to the girls ...). Then she wants 200 in cash upfront, with no real explanation why? At that point, I left.
Maybe I just had a bad day and over-reacted a bit ... or am just overly sensitive, but I really dislike this kind of going back and forth and trying to tell me what a great deal I am getting when I know that I paid a lot less last year ...
Anyway, just thought I'd mention it. Not much else to post these days in BJ.
Am currently thinking about a new 'freebie' tactic, namely getting into the panties of some of the ubiquitous language tutors, mostly students or recent grads charging between 50 and 80/ hour to teach you Chinese (which can be a side-benefit)
Heard from a Korean friend that within that 'scene' (I. E. Korean guys learning Chinese), it is very common that after two or three sessions, you sleep with your teacher. Also heard from a Chinese girl-friend that these teachers have a reputation for sleeping around. So two data-points already. Anyone has any experience?
I can asure you that this is a possibility. But why pay at all? You can make friends first in an online chat. Then you have also more details on hand before you meet.
It works, trust me.
Can you help a brother out with some successful chat sites?
Dunka
[QUOTE=DayNight]I can asure you that this is a possibility. But why pay at all? You can make friends first in an online chat. Then you have also more details on hand before you meet.
It works, trust me.[/QUOTE]
QQ is by far the best. They have 10 million or so users. All links you find here with a search. qq.bur.st is a good starting point.
Had an interesting experience today, I'm new to all of this (2nd time) and checked out a BBS in Haidian. Anyway, went in asked how much for a massage and they said 50RMB, so I agreed and went through the back.
The girl started with a normal massage but after less than 10 minutes suddenly started kissing my chest, then started to get me to touch her. After that she just wanted to ley on me and for her to touch her everywhere - she sounded like she enjoyed it without going overboard with the faking but who knows. The thing was that I just kept touching her and she lay there, it actually got to the point where I wondered if she was just tired.
Anyway, after a while she said a HJ (which was all I wanted) was another 50 and she went to get some oil, then she kept asking if I wanted FS, which I didn't. When she finished, I motioned to leave she didn't want to and just hung her arms around me chatting.
It wasn't at all what I would expect, but does this sound normal for these kind of places? I expected that they would want you in and out as quickly as possible... What do you make of it?
[QUOTE=Pepsi60]Had an interesting experience today, I'm new to all of this (2nd time) and checked out a BBS in Haidian. Anyway, went in asked how much for a massage and they said 50RMB, so I agreed and went through the back.
The girl started with a normal massage but after less than 10 minutes suddenly started kissing my chest, then started to get me to touch her. After that she just wanted to ley on me and for her to touch her everywhere - she sounded like she enjoyed it without going overboard with the faking but who knows. The thing was that I just kept touching her and she lay there, it actually got to the point where I wondered if she was just tired.
Anyway, after a while she said a HJ (which was all I wanted) was another 50 and she went to get some oil, then she kept asking if I wanted FS, which I didn't. When she finished, I motioned to leave she didn't want to and just hung her arms around me chatting.
It wasn't at all what I would expect, but does this sound normal for these kind of places? I expected that they would want you in and out as quickly as possible... What do you make of it?[/QUOTE]As a matter of coincidence, I am going to be in Haidian/Zhongguancun area next week. Where is this BBS? Do you remember her name?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Producer]I've changed focus from Thailand to China in several ways, also concerning the sourcing of personal supplies. I'd like to find a new, reliable tailor for suits in Beijing. My preferred tailor in Bangkok can make a great quality suit (jacket and pants) with Japanese cloth for USD 130 and with Italian cloth for USD 200 all-in (labor and material costs, several fittings, fixed price for all customers) in 10 days.
Does anybody have experience buying such stuff in Beijing and are there some specific shops to be recommended?
I'm not looking for shops that cater only to foreigners/tourists or that sell pseudo Armani/Boss etc. suits. I will be on the road with locals so language won't be a problem and I can bring a sample suit to show the design.
Any recommendations highly appreciated.
[/QUOTE]
If you are larger than the average Chinese male I would be very careful in buying suits in China. The tailors seem to have trouble in getting the fit right and if you want quality it will cost . Light weight summer suits are OK but they do not seem to last that long and lose their "feel" after a couple of dry cleans.
I would suggest that you check out the shopping forum in That's Beijing
( [url]www.thatsbj.com[/url]) There are a couple of posts about men's tailors and the experience various posters have had. From what I can read there are a variety of opinions about quality and prices so I guess it will come down to personal tastes and budget
I am planning a trip to Beijing . Is Holiday Inn Lido is girl freindly and is it a good place to stay , and how far is it from Maggies and HRC .
[QUOTE=Love Sex 22]I am planning a trip to Beijing . Is Holiday Inn Lido is girl freindly and is it a good place to stay , and how far is it from Maggies and HRC .[/QUOTE]It is about a 20 minute cab ride with no traffic. I don't know if it is girl friendly or not but the pig is downstairs.
[QUOTE=Me10]SidTheSexist: Thanks for the recommendation, overall good value for the Wangjing rug/tub place. Also tried the housecall and can't complain. The damage for housecall was steeper RMB160+cab+tip. I got away with a RMB150 tip for full service.[/QUOTE]I finally found this place though there was no address provided yet in this forum. It is on the opposite side of the Wangjing Mall around the corner. Ask the taxidriver to go to the Wangjing Mall, on the opposite side of the entrance there is a few hundred meters away a KFC. Pass this KFC and turn right around the corner. At the corner is an appartment building and there is are signs "Natural Beauty NB" on the building. Above these NB signs in the 2nd or third floor of the building you can see some dental business (just for orientation to make sure you are at the right place). To enter the NB massage place you have to pass the guards, turn immeadiatly right and go to the building and enter the door with the NB sign on which leads downstairs. It is the first door on the right with some foot signs on (for foot massage). They have a menu in Chinese on the wall, so just ask for the 160 Kwai massage (Yi bai liu), the you will get what you want. I had girl #16, she was very nice, not a stunner, but easy going. I asked her to open her bra, she didn't do it fully. But I could touch her tits under the bra, her ass and so on with no complaint, she even kissed me. So overall I think it is a honest good place where you can have fun 90 minutes for 160 Yuan. Not a bad deal at all. If you want FS I don't know if you can get it there unless you call the girl to your hotel room or appartment.
I had slept with a couple of them in Shanghai, some months ago.
However, I believe that percentage of success can be similar to other categories. In case of language tutor maybe it is easier to work that out, as lesson is a good ice breaking situation.
[QUOTE=Farmer Joe]Am currently thinking about a new 'freebie' tactic, namely getting into the panties of some of the ubiquitous language tutors, mostly students or recent grads charging between 50 and 80/ hour to teach you Chinese (which can be a side-benefit)
Heard from a Korean friend that within that 'scene' (I. E. Korean guys learning Chinese), it is very common that after two or three sessions, you sleep with your teacher. Also heard from a Chinese girl-friend that these teachers have a reputation for sleeping around. So two data-points already. Anyone has any experience?[/QUOTE]
no. they don't provide fs at the mp in wangjing. not even when you call them to your home or hotel. i've tried several different girls there, and all of them said so, unless they were not telling me the whole truth.
but you're right. most of the girls i've tried there are very easy going and very nice. i've had some of the best hj's there. and the massage before and after the hj are usually very decent too.
[quote=peepingtom]i finally found this place though there was no address provided yet in this forum. it is on the opposite side of the wangjing mall around the corner. ask the taxidriver to go to the wangjing mall, on the opposite side of the entrance there is a few hundred meters away a kfc. pass this kfc and turn right around the corner. at the corner is an appartment building and there is are signs "natural beauty nb" on the building. above these nb signs in the 2nd or third floor of the building you can see some dental business (just for orientation to make sure you are at the right place). to enter the nb massage place you have to pass the guards, turn immeadiatly right and go to the building and enter the door with the nb sign on which leads downstairs. it is the first door on the right with some foot signs on (for foot massage). they have a menu in chinese on the wall, so just ask for the 160 kwai massage (yi bai liu), the you will get what you want. i had girl #16, she was very nice, not a stunner, but easy going. i asked her to open her bra, she didn't do it fully. but i could touch her tits under the bra, her ass and so on with no complaint, she even kissed me. so overall i think it is a honest good place where you can have fun 90 minutes for 160 yuan. not a bad deal at all. if you want fs i don't know if you can get it there unless you call the girl to your hotel room or appartment.[/quote]
I've been to that place a few times and I've given it up.
First of all, they don't have a good line-up of girls. One girl told me once that they had 7-8 girls on duty at one time at best. That's probably why the manager did not want to bring the "line-up" in for you to choose.
I found their price to be very high. True, they do have a decent place. but given the other choices available, like Chun Xiu Lu and other sauna, which are providing FS at RMB 600-700 or 800, their price is very high.
Then I found most of the girls to be very mechanical. They do provide you with a lot of variety, like different kind of licking, fire and ice, etc. But it was just like doing them one by one to complete the job. If you have tried it once, the second time would not be that exciting anymore.
At my last time there, the girl I had tried very very hard to push me into taking FS. She wasn't a real GFE to start. And then to pay RMB 300 extra for the FS? I could get FS overnight in some cities in China! I was crazy enough to have paid RMB 800 for the massage and HJ and all the rub and tug! So thanks but no thanks!
[QUOTE=Farmer Joe]Tried the above again a few days ago, had been there last year and some decent experience. This is on the road between the Hard Rock and the small river, before you then get to Lufthansa Center.
I said 'tried', although that's not true strictly speaking, as I got so pissed off by the Mama's behaviour that I left.
First she wants 1100 for full service in the normal room and 1500 in the private room (Last year, I paid 800 and 1100 respectively, even got a deal 1200 for two once). I agree to take the private room, then she doesn't want to bring in a line-up for me to pick (cause it's unfair to the girls ...). Then she wants 200 in cash upfront, with no real explanation why? At that point, I left.
Maybe I just had a bad day and over-reacted a bit ... or am just overly sensitive, but I really dislike this kind of going back and forth and trying to tell me what a great deal I am getting when I know that I paid a lot less last year ...
Anyway, just thought I'd mention it. Not much else to post these days in BJ.[/QUOTE]
Brothers,
I was formerly a regular at the old St. Margaret's, at gongti dongmer. Basically lived there from 2000-2004. I have since relocated to southeastern Europe but my thoughts frequently return to the paradise that is Maggie's. Just wanted my brother mongers in BJ to know that, having traversed the German FKKs, the saunas of Lima, the Bangkok Sois, the dens of Phnom Penh and many other of the world's choice hobbyist spots, Maggies is far and away the best establishment I have ever come accross. Hands down. Those of you who have been around for a while will appreciate my memories of Zula, Uzbek Maria and the divine Tuuya, although I'm sure the new crowd there is making new impressions of their own. Just wanted to say Hello,, and let you guys know how lucky you are. Have fun, stay safe and treat those Mongol beauties with kindness they (most of them at least) deserve. You don't know what you got till it's gone.
Q
Sammy / Intransit - Are you guys in Beijing Feb 17 and 18?
I will be in Shanghai Feb 14, Nanjing Feb 15 and either Shanghai or Beijing Feb 16 and 17.
Shanghai has the red ropes at Shanghai Hotel - Beijing has Maggies.
Shanghai has Borbon St, Manhattan Bar and Park 97 / Beijing has The Den, The Pig and Hollywood.
Should I go back to Shanghai or try to come visit you social deviates?
Maggie's was insanely mobbed Saturday night. I walked in about 1:30 after being at a party, and it was absolutely wall-to-wall. Looked like some college civilians trying to show how clever they are by having an event there. Whatever. It was still the first time I've seen 20 people in line at coat check. Maggie's staff said it was the busiest they had ever seen it, and considering the new place is bigger than the previous premises, that's significant. Anyway, I molested my hostess friend Wendy for a while, then left alone when she got off work.
Billy--I will likely be away then. Great meeting you the other night, I didn't see who you left with. Feel free to send a review and photos.
Qiqihar--we're Zula blood brothers. Welcome back. Many of the regulars remain and there is much new talent. If you were there 2000-2004 then we must have met.
[QUOTE=Intransit]Maggie's was insanely mobbed Saturday night. I walked in about 1:30 after being at a party, and it was absolutely wall-to-wall. Looked like some college civilians trying to show how clever they are by having an event there. Whatever. It was still the first time I've seen 20 people in line at coat check. Maggie's staff said it was the busiest they had ever seen it, and considering the new place is bigger than the previous premises, that's significant. Anyway, I molested my hostess friend Wendy for a while, then left alone when she got off work.
Billy--I will likely be away then. Great meeting you the other night, I didn't see who you left with. Feel free to send a review and photos.
Qiqihar--we're Zula blood brothers. Welcome back. Many of the regulars remain and there is much new talent. If you were there 2000-2004 then we must have met.[/QUOTE]Intransit,
Sorry to hear you will not be about - there will be plenty of other occasions mate - I might just stay in Shanghai - do the 'red rope' dance each day.
Qiqhar - we too are Zula blood brothers also - would it be a fair bet that the complete compliment of 'Zula blood brothers' if lined up single file might just about stretch all the way back to Ulaanbaatar?
Have fun guys - keep safe - make sure you treat those gorgeous young ladies like the angels they are.
Brothers,
Thanks for indulging an old old hand, and making me feel so welcome. It truly warms my heart.
Intransit - I'm fairly certain I know who you are. I remember a certain sweltering summer evening, probably 2002, when we sat at the tables outside with a certain New Zealander (God bless her) who shall remain nameless. Ring any bells, or am I completely off base here?
Bad Boy Billy - Actually, I'm quite sure the line would stretch to Bishkek and we would all consider ourselves lucky to have had our chance to enjoy that bespectacled beauty. I keep in sporadic contact with several members of the BJ Horde. Last I heard Zula was in Singapore, had married, and was preparing to move to Germany. Any truth to this?
Q
Hi All,
Would like to ask for help in getiing massage parlour with HJ provided around World Trade Centre with good fun. I am staying at Traders Hotel.
Is there any walking distance massage parlour?
I will be here for another week.
I saw some massage parlour around there which near to KFC area in World Trade but I guess those are clean massage centre. Clean? hahahha
Hope to hear from you and PM me if possible.
Thanks
Transaction.
Last I heard Zula was indeed in Singapore, hadn't heard beyond that. Great personality although I never thought she was any good as a lay. Sammy_T's one of our Zula brethren as well.
[QUOTE=Transaction]Hi All,
Would like to ask for help in getiing massage parlour with HJ provided around World Trade Centre with good fun. I am staying at Traders Hotel.
Transaction.[/QUOTE]I have visited the Oriental Palace which is directly across the road from Trader's. It is in the first alley/street after a large building that is shaped like a penis. Service was in the 1200 - 1600 range depending on room. It was clean. However this was a year ago and since I have not seen it mentionned lately it could be gone?
here my report about my last stay in beijing. it focuses on cheap barbershop action and one special project i undertook during this visit around january 6th to 11th.
a bit about myself: i am caucasian and travel / visit / worked on and off in china since 1996. i speak enough mandarin to talk myself into troubles and out again. the last point is important because the places i write about all come without english-speaking personnel. i have no idea how well one will do there without mandarin.
i will split this report into several paragraphs along locations. i will only tell the roads where the shops can be found, but will not go into detail with every single shop. there are just too many for that and the report would become unwieldy.
i will be in beijing again till february 2nd, so if anyone wants to meet up with me, sorry - no pm possible. i am not a subscribed member and have no means right now to become one.
[b]general notes[/b]
the girls and shops vary widely in the services they provide as well as in ages and looks. i had girls telling they do only hand jobs. others offered fuck & suck. others again only offered blow jobs. some are fine with french kissing. many are not. as my report covers about a couple of dozen shops you can imagine i don’t know what the service in each shops turns out to be. not only that i would lack the time and stamina to put them all to test, but i seriously believe that no human body carries enough body fluid to do so.
besides that, i was looking for something entirely different from fuck & suck this time.
[b]area 1 project “fake barbergirl”[/b] (deshengmen neidajie)
the special project i engaged in was about a lady friend of mine (asian) who is a bit into bdsm and likes to be humiliated and “treated bad” during sex. all in good humor of course. out of curiosity i investigated a bit in advance if it were possible to have her meet me in a barbershop, with the girls there treating her badly, humiliating her and acting as if she were some stuck up office lady out of luck.
what i expected was: “no way sir.” that the idea would be rejected by the barber girls as too odd, too foreign, too unknown, too dangerous and too strange. that most shops would just not agree and if any would, they’d go overboard with what they’d charge for it.
this turned out not to be the case at all. i inquired at about half a dozen shops near the houhai lake area (directions will follow below) and only one shop rejected the idea. the other five got along with the concept pretty well and bout half of them were even reasonable when it came to prices. i was very surprised by that, i really imagined this to be a lot harder.
anyhow, first a bit about directions: the places i visited were mostly on deshengmennei dajie (sorry, but right now i only have a map without chinese characters to copy from). deshengmennei dajie runs north-south from deshengmen qiao (doh!) which is very close to the jishuitan subway station (ring line). the other way round expressed: go to jishuitan station by subway, head east along the ring road, then turn south into deshengmennei dajie. another way to get to deshengmennei dajie is to head to the very northern tip of houhai lake (which locals may know very well because of its bars and cafes like the starbucks at its very southern end).
the barbershops there are rep001tered all along deshengmennei dajie between deshengmen dongdajie (2nd ring) to the north and dianmen xi dajie to the south. i.e. this is not one compact bloc of several shops clustered together door by door but instead one shop here, the next one a short walk down the road, the next one again down the road a short walk etc. etc.. the shops are all along the eastern side of the street or just a few meters into the little alleys leading east because everything on the western side has been torn down for reconstruction recently. as far as i can tell the shops close rather early at about 22:00 (generally speaking).
the shops are all simple and low end - i.e. unbearable dirty if you grew up in an anti-septic, air-conditioned bubble but perfectly right if you ever had the pleasure to travel in an ordinary chinese long distance bus. besides beauty, dirty also seems to be in the eye of the beholder. anyhow - my special project asked for “dirty” anyways. :p
negotiations in the shops i always started with a bit small talk and after that pretending i wanted an ordinary short time fuck and blowjob. quotes for that usually started around 300 rmb, but was no problem to get an agreement on 200 rmb. but they also went down to 150 rmb if one would just leave.
after establishing this basic price for a short time job i told i am actually interested in any of that and began to explain gradually what i am actually here for. started it off with asking if whether besides fucking and sucking they would also “qifu” (treat bad) someone. question back then was usually whom to treat bad and from there i started to tell about my lady friend and what she likes.
the idea was received with varying levels of enthusiasm, but in general very well. one girl was really keen on it, giving examples of what to call my lady friend (including a couple of cuss words i myself was not familiar with yet) and how to slap her, but regretfully was a bit too keen on money and getting a deal too. some shops were a bit tardy and reluctant (though still open to the idea) but we eventually found one with the right attitude. i.e. interested in treating some well off lady badly, but doing so in good humor and not too greedy when it came to money. what we finally agreed on were 200 rmb for all girls (three of them) treating my lady friend like trash when she arrives and talking not too polite with her, me later arriving and acting as a customer and the girls advertising my lady friend as a cheap (if substandard) ***** to me. what was also agreed on was that they would be present while i “use” her to ensure that she gives me proper service. money was to be paid afterwards - they did not even ask for payment in advance. i attribute this on me taking time to talk with them and establishing some level of trust.
the girls all held up their end of the deal performed and played their part and balanced this fine line between verbal abuse and good humor properly. the only one bugging out was eventually my lady friend who just was not up to undress in front of the girls. not a big problem though, i just switched the story-line then a bit, “complained” about the “lousy service” and “what scam is that?” and said i’ll take her to my hotel instead to “make up for my time wasted”. no problem with the barber girls - they trash talked my lady friend for her lousy performance some more and then let me take her with me.
rest of the evening did not involve any of the barber girls anymore so my report stops here :p
[b]area 2 spin of from project “fake barbergirl” [/b] (gulou xidajie)
when screening deshengmennei dajie i was also walking down gulou xidajie (drum tower west road) in search of barbershops. i only found one obviously fake on there amongst many other genuine hairdressers, but that one i still remember because of the girls in there being dressed most “professionally”. most barber girls try to dress not too provocatively, i guess for security reasons. in that shop though one girl wore the classic combo of leather skirt with fishnets and heels while the other had some black see-thru dress neatly walking the line between “dress” and “sexy excuse for a dress”. what i also remember is that this shop closed rather early, probably around 20:00. i suspect the girls only do a bit business there during the day and move on to more upscale places in the evening. their quotes for my project where also more upscale - 600 rmb. i liked the slightly arrogant attitude of the girl with the see-thru (probably useful to put my lady friend down a peg or two) but did not want to go thru the hassle to haggle them down to a reasonable price.
anyhow, in case anyone wants to take a look: gulou xidajie forks off in south-eastern direction from deshengmenqiao all the way to the drum tower. i.e.: go to jishuitan subway station again, head east to get to deshengmenqiao and then, instead of heading south along deshengmennei dajie you head southeast along gulou xidajie. the shop is on the northern side of the road, close to a bus station.
[b]area 3 screw it like the qing[/b] (near qianmen)
most locals will know the hutong area just south of tiananmen square. i am talking about the area where dazhalan (or rather “da shi lar” as beijingers call it) is situated and which gets an upgrade now thanks to the olympic games next year.
a less well know fact is, that this area was just [i]the[/i] red light district of beijing during the qing dynasty called “the eight hutongs”. i seriously recommend every *****monger in beijing to visit the area and show a bit respect to our host’s local culture and history with regard to our hobby. okay, forget about the “serious” but i still recommend a visit of the area before it is bulldozed so you later can mumble to your grandchildren “i still remember when here all we had were cheap hookers and rocks.”
of the old red light hutongs, only one seriously caters to prostitution anymore. there are still other brothel barbers rep001tered all over the area, but the hutong i suggest to visit still holds about half a dozen or so, rep001tered all along its length until it hits xuanwumenwai dajie. it is the very first one heading to the east, running parallel to qianmen xi dajie in east-west direction. to get there all you have to go is get off the subway at qianmen station and then head down the new road (meishi jie) heading south-west off from the semi circle at qianmen. the first hutong heading west from there is where you should walk down. please act cultured and respectful - this is a historical site for whoring in beijing. well, at least it should be :p
during investigation, short time fuck & suck was offered for 150 rmb in some shop- once i told 200 rmb is too much and left the places. with regard to my special project - the shops here were less enthusiastic about that than the one at deshengmennei dajie, but only a couple rejected the idea outright.
the areas above (1-3) i investigated while still arranging for my special project. but also afterwards i stumbled upon some barbershops here or there while sightseeing in beijing and checked them out superficially.
[b]area 4 fuck the system … or at least fuck close to it. [/b] (xi huangchenggeng nanjie)
zhonghai - the “new forbidden city” is the seat of our beloved chinese government officials, who relentlessly struggle to keep china’s economic miracle on track, corruption low and harmful western decadence far away. with regards to prostitution it managed to push it about two blocks east because this is where xi huangchenggeng nanjie runs north-south parallel to the forbidden cities and where i again spotted half a dozen or so barbershops rep001tered along the street.
to get there, let a cab drive you to xianmen dajie as if you were going to the xishiku catholic church, but then turn south into xi huangchenggeng nanjie instead of north into xi huangchenggeng (you guess it) beijie. the shops are again rep001tered all along the street and end when xi huangchenggeng meets the lengjing hutong. as a general trend, the girls there tend to be older and prices thus more reasonable. i was not quoted more than 200 rmb for suck, fuck and kiss and often less very fast.
[b]area 5 royally fucked[/b] (nanchizi dajie)
it may not be the imperial harem, but if you look for any action close to the forbidden city, probably nothing can beat nanchizi dajie. to get there, all you need to do is to leave the forbidden city thru its eastern gate and then just turn south into nanchizi dajie. either that or you go by subway to the tiananmen dong station and then head north into nanchizi dajie.
either way, you’ll find again half a dozen shops on that street. upon inquiry it turned out that fucking was in general not available, but blow jobs were on offer. in one shop the offer was 100 rmb for that. i assume the girls there prefer to not undress because the area is nice, neat and probably regularly checked by the police. either that or enough foreign tourists come by so that the girls get by with offering less.
[b]conclusions[/b]
to make any definite statement about prices and services, i’d have had to actually try a place and go thru with a job (besides the one which was part of my “special project”). nevertheless, by the sheer volume of shops i visited and interviewed, i feel comfortable making the following estimations.
i consider it very possible to find short time suck & fuck without any extras in beijing for 150 rmb and probably as low as 100 rmb if one drives a hard bargain. from there, extras like better service (unhurried procedures, kissing,whatever) should be possible to get. overnight should be possible to get at 300 rmb, maybe 400 rmb for better service and attitude.
in case you got any further questions – you are stuck with posting them here. sorry, but as said, i will not be able to set up a subscribed membership over my last couple of days here as i already leave beijing again on saturday 3rd so pms are not an option.
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[QUOTE=Intransit]Great personality although I never thought she was any good as a lay.[/QUOTE]
Now Intransit, how can you say that about our Zula when you know she reads this board? She was one of the best I have ever had! I still have a fond memory of getting a BJ from her as I watched the USA invade Iraq on CNN. Ah, the memories.... :)
[QUOTE=Andreas Wang]I will be in Beijing again till February 2nd, so if anyone wants to meet up with me, sorry - no PM possible. I am not a subscribed member and have no means right now to become one.[/QUOTE]
Andreas - Great post! I would love to buy you a beer and hear more details. Any chance you can make it to the pig before you leave on Friday? I can make it Wednesday or Thursday. Just post a day and a time and I will meet you. Others from the board are of course welcome to join us as well.
Sammy
[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]Sammy / Intransit - Are you guys in Beijing Feb 17 and 18?
I will be in Shanghai Feb 14, Nanjing Feb 15 and either Shanghai or Beijing Feb 16 and 17.
Shanghai has the red ropes at Shanghai Hotel - Beijing has Maggies.
Shanghai has Borbon St, Manhattan Bar and Park 97 / Beijing has The Den, The Pig and Hollywood.
Should I go back to Shanghai or try to come visit you social deviates?[/QUOTE]
Billy - February 18th is the first day of the lunar new year, and I imagine a large majority of the girls will be in their home town. The Mongolians follow the same lunar calandar as the Chinese, and a majority of them will also be traveling back to UB for the week of Spring Festival. I imagine the Pig, Den, and Maggie's will all be dead. I would save the airfare and stay in Shanghai.
I hope we can get together some other time,
Sammy
[QUOTE=Ontario Boy]I have visited the Oriental Palace which is directly across the road from Trader's. It is in the first alley/street after a large building that is shaped like a penis. Service was in the 1200 - 1600 range depending on room. It was clean. However this was a year ago and since I have not seen it mentionned lately it could be gone?[/QUOTE]Hi Ontario Boy,
Thanks for the information.
Will be looking around and Andreas did a great report on the area around Tiananmen Sq I think.
Well hope to find something or else I might call room service.
Saw some touts around the area and offer me RMB500 ST and 800 to 1200 LT. Guess thats the going price. That guy can really speak good English. I am impressed.
Cheers,
Trans
[QUOTE=Sammy_T]I would love to ... hear more details. [/QUOTE]That’s no problem. Can you already post what in particular you like to hear more about? Would be stupid to meet up if all I can tell you will be “Err, urm … dunno either.”
[QUOTE=Sammy_T]... and buy you a beer.[/QUOTE]Very minor problem. I drink no alcohol. But feel free to drink for two yourself.
[QUOTE=Sammy_T]Any chance you can make it to the pig before you leave on Friday?[/QUOTE]Now that’s more of a problem. I got no clue where The Pig is. A short google search told me we got the year of the pig soon (Doh! No shit!) and not much else.
Sounds like a bar of the Pig & Whistles chain. But I am not too much into bars, so my guess could be wrong. Is it at the Lido, i.e. at the expressway to the Airport? In that case, forget about it – I will pass by that place once on Sunday when I leave. I can wave in your general direction if you insist, but that’s about it already.
Btw, the thing about leaving on Friday – I only wrote that because I am too stupid to handle a calendar. I actually leave on Sunday. And next week I learn how to count higher than 10 with my socks on.
[QUOTE=Sammy_T]I can make it Wednesday or Thursday. Just post a day and a time and I will meet you.[/QUOTE]Tricky – tomorrow Thursday maybe works out best, but there is always the chance it does not and I dislike standing people up.
All I could offer is to meet up somewhere near the Lufthansa Centre sometime late in the day. I will have to be in that area before I leave anyways, so I as well make it tomorrow. It is the closest I will get to the Lido.
So what I suggest: if it’s convenient for you let’s say Thursday about 18:30 (give and take) in the Lobby of the Kempinski. Just be so kind and tell me how to recognize you so I can rat you out to the Gong An in advance. :P
And as mentioned above be so kind to post here a bit what you like to know more about.
[QUOTE=Transaction]Hi Ontario Boy,
Saw some touts around the area and offer me RMB500 ST and 800 to 1200 LT. Guess thats the going price. That guy can really speak good English. I am impressed.
Whatever you do do not, repeat "NOT". go with any tout to their place or any place they suggest. There are many horror stories on this board about mongers getting ripped off at overpriced bars and KTV's.
[QUOTE=Andreas Wang][b]Area 3 Screw it like the Qing[/b] (near Qianmen)
Of the old Red Light Hutongs, only one seriously caters to prostitution anymore. ... It is the very [i]first one[/i] heading to the East, running parallel to Qianmen Xi Dajie in East-West direction.[/QUOTE]Me stupid long time. It is the [i]second[/i] one leading [i]West[/i]. [u]Second[/u] like: "2nd", "第一个", "that number between 1 and 3". And [u]West[/u] like "where the sun sets" "西" "direction where the desert starts".
Sorry for that.
[QUOTE=Andreas Wang]
[b]Conclusions[/b]
To make any definite statement about prices and services, I’d have had to actually try a place and go thru with a job (besides the one which was part of my “special project”). Nevertheless, by the sheer volume of shops I visited and interviewed, I feel comfortable making the following estimations.
I consider it very possible to find short time suck & fuck without any extras in Beijing for 150 RMB and probably as low as 100 RMB if one drives a hard bargain. From there, extras like better service (unhurried procedures, kissing,whatever) should be possible to get. Overnight should be possible to get at 300 RMB, maybe 400 RMB for better service and attitude.
In case you got any further questions – you are stuck with posting them here. Sorry, but as said, I will not be able to set up a subscribed membership over my last couple of days here as I already leave Beijing again on Saturday 3rd so PMs are not an option.
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Andreas Wang,
Excellent post. I find regular Beijing dirty enough and haven't had the courage to explore the BBSes beyond the Wang jing area. This thread needs more intrepid explorers like yourself to flesh out Beijing's BBS scene, especially since it turns out that the prices are about the same as Shanghai's (RMB150). I was put off by earlier reports of Beijing BBSes costing RMB300+ (that's what I paid in Wangjing), but RMB150 is more like it. Next time I'm in Beijing, I'll explore the BBS option and bargain for 150 or less. Thanks again!
[QUOTE=Xiangjiao]I find regular Beijing dirty enough and haven't had the courage to explore the BBSes beyond the Wang jing area.[/QUOTE]You mean Wangfujing? The central shopping street running North from the Beijing Hotel up to the Beijing Art Museum?
That must have been quite some while ago. I still remember barbershops in that area [i]before[/i] the area got a major upgrade and renovations. But they disappeared already some years back then and afterwards I never saw anything to be of interest there anymore.
Either that or you know of some place I missed. Care to share? :P
When and where did you visit the BBS you referred to above?
Either
[QUOTE=Ontario Boy][QUOTE=Transaction]Hi Ontario Boy,
Whatever you do do not, repeat "NOT". go with any tout to their place or any place they suggest. There are many horror stories on this board about mongers getting ripped off at overpriced bars and KTV's.[/QUOTE]Thanks Ontario Boy for your advise.Read about the horror stories from here and I will never want to go with them.
Area 5 Royally fucked (Nanchizi Dajie)
I will be going to the place above from Andreas' report.WIll report out once I have the results. Its fairly easy to go from my area through the subway.
Lets see what happened.
Trans
[QUOTE=Andreas Wang]You mean Wangfujing? The central shopping street running North from the Beijing Hotel up to the Beijing Art Museum?
That must have been quite some while ago. I still remember barbershops in that area [i]before[/i] the area got a major upgrade and renovations. But they disappeared already some years back then and afterwards I never saw anything to be of interest there anymore.
Either that or you know of some place I missed. Care to share? :P
When and where did you visit the BBS you referred to above?
Either[/QUOTE]
Hey Andreas Wang,
Actually, I mean this place called, "Wang Jing," 望京 which is near the Lido area. Whenever I'm in Beijing, I'm usually doing business around the north 4th ring road area, so Wang Jing isn't so far for me. The epicenter of the BBS scene there (at least when I checked last year) was "Wang Jing Xin Cheng" (Wang Jing New City). If you take the subway (aboveground light rail) to Wang Jing station, the cab ride from there to the Wang Jing Xin Cheng apt complex should only be about RMB10. Almost every apt building in the complex had one or two BBSes. They were cleaner than the ones I've seen in Houhai. But b/c Wang Jing houses a lot of Koreans and other foreigners, the BBSes there get away with charging higher rates (RMB300+). I might have been able to get it lower than RMB300 for 1.5 hours, but I didn't do the "walk away" technique. When I was there last, there were over a dozen of these BBSes in that apt complex.
Cheers!
[QUOTE=Andreas Wang]That’s no problem. Can you already post what in particular you like to hear more about? Would be stupid to meet up if all I can tell you will be “Err, urm … dunno either.”
[/QUOTE]
Andreas - No big deal, I was just being friendly. It seems you have spent a lot of time doing research in our fair city, and I was just interested in hearing some of your stories. You are correct in that the Pig is in the Holiday Inn Lido. Early in the evening it is a nice place to sit and chat, as the girls do not typically start to show up in force until after 9 pm. Since you do not drink, and it sounds like you are busy, we can skip it.
Speaking of the Pig, last night must have been some type of record. For those of you who vist often, you know that on any give night you will find a hand full of Chinese working girls starting around 7 pm, and the Mongolian girls roll in around 9 pm. The Chinese then typically leave, letting the Mongolian's have control of the bar. Well, last night around 8 pm I counted at least 20 Chinese girls, and they stuck around until at least 11 pm. I spoke to a couple of the new girls, and they are simply girls home early for the holiday looking to make a quick buck. All shapes, sizes, and ages. If you have never been to the Pig because you prefer Chinese girls now might be the time to make your first vist. The Mongolian Girls still arrived on time, and the female to male ratio last night was at least 2 to 1. All of the girls I spoke with (Chinese and Mongolian) said they do not plan to work the week of Spring Festival, so get 'em while their hot :)
Sammy
[QUOTE=Sammy_T]You are correct in that the Pig is in the Holiday Inn Lido. Early in the evening it is a nice place to sit and chat, as the girls do not typically start to show up in force until after 9 pm. Since you do not drink, and it sounds like you are busy, we can skip it.[/QUOTE]What I was thinking just today - how about you just tell me when it is a good chance that you are at the Pig anyways and how to find you or whom to ask how to find you?
In that case I could just drop by if time permits, and if not - nothing lost on your side if you wer headed for the Pig anyways. It is just a bit hard for me to predict wheter or when I am free at any given time.
[QUOTE=Sammy_T]Billy - February 18th is the first day of the lunar new year, and I imagine a large majority of the girls will be in their home town. The Mongolians follow the same lunar calandar as the Chinese, and a majority of them will also be traveling back to UB for the week of Spring Festival. I imagine the Pig, Den, and Maggie's will all be dead. I would save the airfare and stay in Shanghai.
I hope we can get together some other time,
Sammy[/QUOTE]Thanks mate for that - I was not aware the 'hordes' followed the Lunar calender.
Yes I will stay in Shanghai.
Had a great couple of hours with Intransit in Maggies that night you could not make it.
Will try to be back in Beijing late March - we better hook up for dinner next time - keep safe.
Jason1831, you reported about a month ago that
"I think action of this kind is better in Vancouver, Canada though its reaching around 4-500$ in vancouver for something like this. The service there will last around 4 to 5 hours. If anyone ever does go to vancouver, let me know ahead of time and I will definately give a grand tour."
I live in Vancouver and haven't seen anything like you describe where the service goes 4-5 hours. Where do you go for that?
I was in Beijing a couple of months ago and had a very good full body massage with a really great happy ending (nice ball massage, followed by HJ with great prostate-massage). Price was ok. The place was called Roses Massage or so, was more like a private appartment with Mama and two girls working for her.
Unfortunately I lost their number - does anybody know this place and their phone-number?
Thanks a lot,
Alex
Hi fellow enthusiasts,
I went to Pig tonight. I had a bad experience and I want to share with you so you can be more knowledgeable. I was approached by a lady in her 30s, long hair, nice size boobs and knows English really well as in being able to read some words. She goes by the name xiang xiang but I don't think she uses that name for foreigners (I am Chinese American and I can speak the language). She promised a nice massage before sex. The massage was very superficial and sex was poor as she wouldn't allow you do anything (for me, penetrate her pussy with my fingers). I was almost ready to ask her to leave but we were in the middle of it and I thought you have to take the good with the bad.
The board has been great to me and I hope you will become more knowledgeable as a result of this post.
Best,
Rast
If it's the one close to the power station between 3rd and 4th ring road, then the number is 85913528.
[QUOTE=Flying Alex]I was in Beijing a couple of months ago and had a very good full body massage with a really great happy ending (nice ball massage, followed by HJ with great prostate-massage). Price was ok. The place was called Roses Massage or so, was more like a private appartment with Mama and two girls working for her.
Unfortunately I lost their number - does anybody know this place and their phone-number?
Thanks a lot,
Alex[/QUOTE]
Does anyone know the name, or have seen a very short, and petite Mongolian girl at the Pig? I was there about a year ago, and had a little fun with her. She has very long black hair and was the littlest girl in the bar.
I'm going back next Tuesday, looking for her.
Thanks,
Jackpine8888
Jackpine8888,
The vast majority of mongolian girls that ply their trade in Beijing are transient. Very few stay for very long, and even fewer are regulars.
I suggest you try another girl, though if you hang out at the Pig or Maggie's enough, she could turn up. Besides, if she was a super GFE with you a year ago, she may or may not offer the same GFE service after a full year of being "on the job" so to speak. She very well could be quite hardened and smart about her chosen line of work and decide that she can make a lot more money by cycling through more customers by not being so GFE and learning how to make you come faster.
I don't want to seem cold and sarcastic about it, but I have known some Monglian girls who were fresh on the job, absolutely sweet GFE's and a few months later, she wants you to get your rocks off asap, all for the same price.
Have fun! MAB
[QUOTE=Jackpine8888]Does anyone know the name, or have seen a very short, and petite Mongolian girl at the Pig? I was there about a year ago, and had a little fun with her. She has very long black hair and was the littlest girl in the bar.
I'm going back next Tuesday, looking for her.
Thanks,
Jackpine8888[/QUOTE]
I'm attending a trade show in Beijing next week and am staying at the Shangrila (China Wall?) next to the convention centre. Does anyone know whehter the hotel is girl friendly? Does it depend on whehter I'm bringing a Chinese girl or Russian? Do the Russians at Hollywood have their own places if the hotel won't let them in?
Thanks mates!
Banana at Scitech Plaza.
Went in alone and paid RMB20 and ordered a drink.
Soon enough a girl came and chat with me.
I am a chinese guy but I don't speak Mandarin, so communication was tough.
She asked whether she could sit and dance with me for RMB300. My motive was to check out the place, so I passed.
There were like about 4-5 ladies coming to me and asked me the same thing. One even offered RMB 1k for a nite and RMB 600 ST.
She wasnt a looker but. Was ok.
Met another girl who also gave me her number. She is a looker but a bit thin for me. Maybe will try her for some dance act next time. Her name is Chang Li Men (I am not sure whether this is the right spelling)
Maybe will go again tonight or tomorrow as I will be leaving this Friday.
Maggie's.
Maggie is so near to where I stay, Traders Hotel.
I didn't know that until I had a biz dinner next to Maggie's yesterday nite.
Went in, and at first was told that it was for member's only (As I am a chinese). Don't try to fool me, I was thinking. As I am not from China, I was beginning to speak some English and told them where I am from, Malaysia. They soon allowed me to go in without any 'membership' problem.
Went in and saw like about 40-50 ladies, it was about 10pm ish.
Sat down and soon enough was approached, not my type, politely turned down.
Few approached me but not my type so. I turned down again, politely, saying I want to play some pools.
I wasnt swamped by many, maybe due to my appearance, chinese looking. But saw some pretty ones and approached them.
I approached 3 actually, all mongolians.
1. Lily wanted RMB1 k for ST, and once I said its too expensive, she left me. No negotiation in Maggie's?
2. Another 'Lily' wanted the same amount, and again she left me when I said the same thing. She said 'I have to leave you if no RMB1 k', I said bye.
3. Can't remember her name but I bought her a drink, gin tonic, as I thought she was worth it. We sat down, and she was pretty. Chatted for a while and damn she can't speak much english. Basic yes. Wanted RMB800. It was OK for me but it was already 1am so I got her number and will instead call her tonight. We were kissing passionately DFK at one time. So it was quite enjoyable.
Just want to check with you all on the rates stated. Is that the normal price? Tonight might check out Pig or San Lin Tun area.
Rgds Trans
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[QUOTE=Transaction]No negotiation in Maggie's?
Wanted RMB800...
Just want to check with you all on the rates stated. Is that the normal price? [/QUOTE]
Transaction,
Everything is negotiable in China, including Maggie's girls.
Not all Maggie's girls will negotiate, but 800rmb is not bad. If you negotiated a bit, or had another drink or two with her, she may have lowered her price depending on how late it is, how new to the business, desperate she was, etc.
It also depends on how desperate the customer is!
Many of the Mongolians are realistic and are willing to give a discount and make some money rather than go home empty handed, versus holding out.
It also helps if the girl likes you.
I know people who have stayed so late, they have gotten freebies. Though you have to work on technique to do this.
MAB
[QUOTE=Transaction]Banana at Scitech Plaza.
Went in alone and paid RMB20 and ordered a drink.
Soon enough a girl came and chat with me.
I am a chinese guy but I don't speak Mandarin, so communication was tough.
She asked whether she could sit and dance with me for RMB300. My motive was to check out the place, so I passed.
There were like about 4-5 ladies coming to me and asked me the same thing. One even offered RMB 1k for a nite and RMB 600 ST.
She wasnt a looker but. Was ok.
Met another girl who also gave me her number. She is a looker but a bit thin for me. Maybe will try her for some dance act next time. Her name is Chang Li Men (I am not sure whether this is the right spelling)
Maybe will go again tonight or tomorrow as I will be leaving this Friday.
...
Just want to check with you all on the rates stated. Is that the normal price? Tonight might check out Pig or San Lin Tun area.
...[/QUOTE]
Can only comment on your experience at Banana.
The 'sit and dance' rate quoted is indeed the 'normal price', as I was quoted the same in Dec. 2006. The ST and LT rates seem to be fairly 'standard' but there probably will be room for negotiation should it be late in the night, say 3 or 4 am (I believe they close at 6 am). Not all girls there do full service, meaning some girls accompany guests at the club ONLY.
[QUOTE=Mock A Bee]Transaction,
Everything is negotiable in China, including Maggie's girls.
Not all Maggie's girls will negotiate, but 800rmb is not bad. If you negotiated a bit, or had another drink or two with her, she may have lowered her price depending on how late it is, how new to the business, desperate she was, etc.[/quote]Hi Mock A Bee,
Thanks for the input. BTW, the money quoted are all for short time in Maggie's.
I have had the guys near the Traders Hotel providing girls for a night at
RMB 600, RMB800 and RMB1500.
So I thought RMB800 is a bit steep for a short time.
One more question, where is Holiday Inn lido? Cant find it in the map as I want to get to the Pig tonight.
Or else I will end up in Maggie's again or Passion.
Cheers,
Trans
Trans,
Ask any doorman or concierge at Traders, they can tell you where the Lido is, it's in the northeast part of the city in the direction of the airport.
Yesterday, I managed to find a barbershop(with massage or we call it fake barbershop) at Dongdaqiao Lou, the street along Silk Market and its actually nearer to Silk Market 2 opposite a mall with ZARA in it.
There are 3 or 4 shops there and all the girls were sitted at the sofa near the entrance looking bored. Walked past and spotted a beauty in the 2nd shop.They are all closed to each other, I cant read chinese so I dont have the names of the shop.
Asked how much for a massage, was quoted RMB50 for 50mins..I said not bad! I could speak a little chinese like 'how much' and 'massage'.
Condition of the room is so so but i dont think they changed the towel on the bed.
Was clean though when I went in.
Had the girl call Xiao Ching, 20 yo mother of 2 kids.
Massage was average, as I requested 100mins massage.
Half way through the initial massage, I asked whether I can massage her, she said lovely!Then she lied down and asked me to unhook the bra.
I did...and I guess I did a good job massaging her as she moaned a bit(might be fake but I was enjoying it)
Then we switched back, she is the masseur now.
Started playing with my nipple and asked the magic question on HJ for RMB100.
Went out to take tissue and came back..started the massage on my....(i think I will spare the details on all that, not good in writing the details part)
Good looking, and excellant boobs and yes, managed to take off the bra.
Origin: NanFang
Face: 8/10
GFE: 9/10
Massage: 4/10
HJ: 8/10.
Boobs: 10/10.
Thats all.Just want to share with you the excellant location, shop and service.
Tonight i will go back to Banana, for my last nite in Beijing.
ps. Found Holiday Inn Lido in the map yesterday night. Thank you all!
Cheers
Trans.
[QUOTE=Intransit]Trans,
Ask any doorman or concierge at Traders, they can tell you where the Lido is, it's in the northeast part of the city in the direction of the airport.[/QUOTE]
Yes the concierge in any 4 or 5 star hotel in China is YOUR BEST FRIEND IN CHINA - except for Sammy or Intransit - they will be your best friends..................apart from the fact that they always take the best girls.
I was in the Pig on Tuesday night. Now it seems the Chinese girls completly out number the Mongolian girls through out the entire night. They all tend to stay on the right side of the bar (as you come in the front door), leaving the left side to the few remaining Mongolian girls. I spoke to several of the new Chinese girls, and they range anywhere from 18 years old (I saw her ID card) to 34. When asked a price they all started off at 1000 RMB, quickly dropped to 800 RMB, and I could finally get them to 600 RMB. I think it might be difficult to get them to stay all night because they all have homes to go home to, with someone there expecting them to be home at some time, even if it is late.
By the way, I came across Fu Lan, who Arctic1 has posted a picture of in the photo section. When I read his description I had a feeling I knew who she was, and when I chatted with her on Tuesday she was wearing the same necklaces she is in one of the photos. I have know her a long time and she is exactly as advertised. PM me if you would like her mobile number.
I also chatted up a former Passion's girl that was giving the Pig a try. When she walked in the door you could tell she was something special - tall, beautiful, and very large breasts. As I introduced myself to her she told me very plainly that she was just there to drink and get tips, and was not looking to go home with anyone. She spoke perfect English and we had a great conversation. I bought her a few drinks and a couple of shots of tequila, and after she was a little tipsy I offered her 2000 RMB to go with me. She still declined saying she only wanted to chat and drink. I tipped her 300 RMB, which would have been the rate had I met her at Passion's.
Now before I get jumped on by the cheap Charlies on this board I really had no intention of taking her home for 2000 RMB, but I wanted to see if she was serious about only drinking. That being said, she was certainly of Passion's quality and it reminded me of how beautiful the girls there really are.
Sammy - A friend to all only because I have a large expense account :)
Hi,
I had a great experience at Hollywood. I met a russian blonde named Linda. about 5"6, B to C cups and can speak English. She was supernice and even helped me avoid the rip-off taxis in the front. She was attentive, a little inexperienced but a squirter. Great fun.
BTW, I noticed Hollywood has an influx of koreans and some of them speak really good Chinese. If you like Koreans, I recommend you stop by.
Best,
Rast
Sammy you stupid fuck! You tipped a girl 300 RMB just for talking with you? What are you, a big pasha or something?
Oh, wait, I'm not Midea... ;-)
[QUOTE=Transaction]Went in, and at first was told that it was for member's only (As I am a chinese). Don't try to fool me, I was thinking. As I am not from China, I was beginning to speak some English and told them where I am from, Malaysia. They soon allowed me to go in without any 'membership' problem.
Went in and saw like about 40-50 ladies, it was about 10pm ish.[/QUOTE]
Not going to get any cheaper than you were quoted, at 10pm ish. But a bit later on when they have either already turned a few tricks, or getting desperate to get one, the price can come down quite considerably. Actually, some of the best deals Ive ever had from Maggies have been when negotiating for 2 birds at once. Almost always managed 2 for 1000rmb so long as you are happy with her friend. A mate of mine had this same deal 2 weeks ago, but Ive only just got back to town this week to find out.
Sid
[QUOTE=SidTheSexist]Not going to get any cheaper than you were quoted, at 10pm ish. But a bit later on when they have either already turned a few tricks, or getting desperate to get one, the price can come down quite considerably. Actually, some of the best deals Ive ever had from Maggies have been when negotiating for 2 birds at once. Almost always managed 2 for 1000rmb so long as you are happy with her friend. A mate of mine had this same deal 2 weeks ago, but Ive only just got back to town this week to find out.
Sid[/QUOTE]
Sid you are 100% correct on 1000RMB for 2 - especially Sunday, Monday or Tuesday nights when things are a little quieter - I have done this regularly over the last 3 or 4 years.
I'm a regular visitor to BJ (and other parts of China) I'm here a week before the Chinese New Year. Staying in BJ for a few days. Dissapointed that most of the girls who I have a number with, have gone home already for the holiday.
Made a few stops at several bars on Saturday night with nothing catching my eye. Went to the HRC about 11:30. I have tried to stay away from the place for awhile because I know many of the girls there. I like variety, and it is difficult to tell someone to get lost. Went in, and before I could order a beer, a cute tall Chinese girl was by my side. I turned my head and immediately noticed her 35C's. And they looked natural. She was cute, but not a knock out, but I decided to talk with her. About 10 minutes later, another girl who I knew, (actually sent me an sms the day before) came up and said hi, but she politely did not stay as she saw I had company.
Ended up negotiating from 1000 to 600 and went back to the room. I was right, she had gorgeous natural breast, and a fit body. Showered and in the sack. Her BJ was ok, but I gave her a few pointers, which she tried to do. Not bad. While sucking her breast she was making some fake moaning sounds. Fake, but it was good. She kept telling me how big I was, and how she wanted big one inside. We started round one, and her fake moaning turned to real moans. She was very focal, and saying, "oh so hard. So big for me. I like it. Harder. Harder." I turned me on quite a bit. Used some cialis before venturing out, so I was quite primed. Good finish, and I wanted to rest. She layed there a few minutes and started another BJ. I wanted to relax, but she got me up again, and without asking, put on another condom, and jumped on top. Wild ride for both of us.
Got her number, and thought I would see her again before I left.
Sunday, I was tired, and decided to go to the P & G, have not been there for awhile. Not on a hunt, but if I saw something that caught my eye, ok, if not, ok too. Walk in, and the other girl from HRC is by the door. Shit! Have some small talk, and she asked me if I had a good time last night with the other girl. I told her a few details, said she was really horny, and loud. She told me the girl is her friend. And she is a good girl. Always horny. 5 minutes later, the girl walks in. Strike 2! They talk in Chinese. And I can understand some. Basically about me, and they both like me in bed. I pretend not to understand and ask them what they are saying. And they say, "nothing bad about you, just girl talk". Then they ask me if I want to take both of them to my room. And I said, sure, but I don't have much money. Thinking I could get a deal. But girl 1 just mention the ATM, how I am a rich American. She is always like that, and one reason I do not like her much. Anyways, tell them I am just relaxing. Not iterested tonight, and they decide to go the HRC. The girl from the night before says I want to see you again before you leave BJ as she leaves.
As soon as they leave, a girl that was stand close comes up to me, and makes her move. She asks me to take her home, as she is horny. Not a dog, but no beauty. Mentions that she thinks I am a strong man, and she needs good sex. (must have been listening to the other two girls. I tell her she has to pay me, and she says "no problem, I have money" and opens her purse and pulls out a wad of 100's. I politely decline telling her I am tired, maybe another night.
By this time only the Mongo's are left at the P & G, and I head out. Stop at Nashvilles for a few beers and listen to the guitar player (good Philipino guy that plays there all the time)
Last Thursday I went to the pig with some friends. As has been the case recently, it was heavily concentrated with Chinese girls, with a fair representation of Mongolians too. I hooked up with the former Passion's girl again. I sent her a text message when I arrived, and she showed up about 15 minutes later. She said the night before (Wednesday) she had collected 1800 RMB in tips from various guys at the Pig. This just for for talking and drinking. I am sure the guys were each hoping to take her home, but in the end when they went to close the deal she would say she does not go home, and only ask for a tip. I guess that it just goes to show that it is good practice that when chatting up a girl in the Pig you should establish your intentions early in the conversation. This should be applied to all situations - if you want to take her, perhaps want to take her but are unable to do so, or would never take her in a million years. This way you do not waste your or her time. If I am in the Pig and just want to relax and enjoy my beer I will tell the girls within the first few minutes that I have no intentions of taking them. The girls that are a little hard up / unattractive may continue to push me, but if I want to get rid of them I will simply ignore them from that point. The attractive girls always seem to appreciate my honesty and will typically circle the room looking for business, and eventually come back to me to chat if they do not find any.
Around midnight we all decided to head to Maggie's. Passion's girl had heard of it, but had never been before and wanted to see what it was like. Upon arrival our group of around 10 was not given any trouble, even though we were a mixture of American, Chinese, and Mongolian. I noticed that Maggie's has moved the coat check right next to the front door. This kind of threw me off a little, but I guess it is to allow better monitoring of what girls can come in or not. If they are not wanted they can simply be turned around when they go to check their purse or coat. I have noticed an increased number of both Mongolian and Chinese girls telling me that they are no longer allowed to go to Maggie's. I ask if they have caused some type of trouble, but they said no, they have just been turned away at the door. Maybe soon Maggie's will have a velvet rope out front with a bouncer deciding who can come in, and who must stay out :)
At the end of the night I gave the Passion's girl 400 RMB, along with purchasing whatever she wanted to drink all night long. She stuck to me like glue, fending off advances from various other guys. For me it was well worth it just to have what I perceived to be the most beautiful girl in the place only have eyes for me.
The last 2 Fridays I have knocked off of work early for a relaxing afternoon at the ShiYi sauna with some Chinese business collogues. Please see my previous post regarding this sauna for a map and directions. In this previous post I had mentioned 2 different room types - "standard," which consisted of a small room with a full size bed, and "VIP" which was more like a suite with a sitting area, small bathroom, and bedroom with 2 single beds. The advantage of the VIP room is that there a locking door between the bedroom and the sitting room, giving you more privacy. In the standard room the main door has a small window allowing anyone to peak inside and see what is going on. This seemed to make my girl nervous the few times I tried the standard room.
Having now visited with some Chinese friends I have learned that what I thought was a VIP room was only a "standard suite", and there are actually 2 large VIP rooms. These rooms consists of a large sitting area, 4 side rooms, and a large bathroom. In the large sitting area is a sofa similar to what you would find in a KTV room, and a large TV with KTV setup. 2 of the side rooms contain Mahjongg tables. One of the side rooms contains a twin bed, and the last one contains a double bed. The bathroom has a shower as well as a large whirlpool tub, big enough for 2 people.
Each afternoon we would start off enjoying the sauna's facilities on the first floor before heading upstairs to the VIP room. Once we got to the room we would order a late lunch (after 6 pm they have a food buffet setup, but you can order dishes anytime through the day), and eat. We would then ask to see the lineup of girls. During the day there are only a handful of girls on duty, with the first major shift arriving after 3 pm. From what I recall the girls charge 288 RMB for a 90 minute massage. If you want "full service" the girl will charge you for 2 sessions, but only give you 90 minutes. On my last visit I enjoyed her services twice during the 90 minutes for no additional charge, but this my depend on the girl. After the massage you are free to relax in the room, or even go back down and soak in the pools again and shower before getting dressed and leaving.
As someone has pointed out, the sauna experience can be very mechanical unless you take control of the situation. Leave the girl in control and you will receive the same scripted performance with very little variation regardless of which girl you choose (the script does change from sauna to sauna, but in my experience they are all very similar). Sometimes this is not bad you generally know what you are getting, but it does take some of the anticipation away. I have never had a problem getting the girl to change things up, so do not feel like you are tied into their routine.
All said and done there were 4 of us that were at the sauna for around 3 hours. We each utilized the sauna facilities, shared the VIP room, had lunch, and received a full service massage. The total cost was 3700 RMB. By the way, they do take credit cards and offer fa piaos described as a "meal". For reference a standard room is 50 RMB per hour, a Standard Suite is 60 RMB per hour, and one of the VIP rooms is 1000 RMB per day (I do not know if there is an hourly rate). Add to this around 50 RMB for use of the sauna facilities, and whatever massage you choose starting at 128 RMB for a straight, no funny business massage, 288 RMB for a massage with happy ending, and 288 RMB X 2 (576 RMB) for a full service massage.
I have to say that the sauna is becoming my favorite medium for the hobby. So far I have only tried the ShiYi and the ChunXiuLu. The ChunXiuLu is "nicer," and seems to have a better selection of girls, but it is also more expensive. I know they also have large VIP rooms available, but I would imagine a similar experience would cost double at ChunXiuLu then it would at ShiYi. That being said, I have not taken my Chinese business friends there yet, so I will have to give it a shot and see. I find the ShiYi to be a very good value for the money. I am open to try other saunas recommended by board members, but I must admit I do not read Chinese, and I am terrible with directions, so the location will need to be very carefully described.
Good luck, and enjoy Chinese New Year!
Sammy
[QUOTE=Sammy_T]Last Thursday I went to the pig with some friends. As has been the case recently, it was heavily concentrated with Chinese girls, with a fair representation of Mongolians too. I hooked up with the former Passion's girl again. I sent her a text message when I arrived, and she showed up about 15 minutes later. She said the night before (Wednesday) she had collected 1800 RMB in tips from various guys at the Pig. This just for for talking and drinking. I am sure the guys were each hoping to take her home, but in the end when they went to close the deal she would say she does not go home, and only ask for a tip. I guess that it just goes to show that it is good practice that when chatting up a girl in the Pig you should establish your intentions early in the conversation. This should be applied to all situations - if you want to take her, perhaps want to take her but are unable to do so, or would never take her in a million years. This way you do not waste your or her time. If I am in the Pig and just want to relax and enjoy my beer I will tell the girls within the first few minutes that I have no intentions of taking them. The girls that are a little hard up / unattractive may continue to push me, but if I want to get rid of them I will simply ignore them from that point. The attractive girls always seem to appreciate my honesty and will typically circle the room looking for business, and eventually come back to me to chat if they do not find any.
Around midnight we all decided to head to Maggie's. Passion's girl had heard of it, but had never been before and wanted to see what it was like. Upon arrival our group of around 10 was not given any trouble, even though we were a mixture of American, Chinese, and Mongolian. I noticed that Maggie's has moved the coat check right next to the front door. This kind of threw me off a little, but I guess it is to allow better monitoring of what girls can come in or not. If they are not wanted they can simply be turned around when they go to check their purse or coat. I have noticed an increased number of both Mongolian and Chinese girls telling me that they are no longer allowed to go to Maggie's. I ask if they have caused some type of trouble, but they said no, they have just been turned away at the door. Maybe soon Maggie's will have a velvet rope out front with a bouncer deciding who can come in, and who must stay out :)
At the end of the night I gave the Passion's girl 400 RMB, along with purchasing whatever she wanted to drink all night long. She stuck to me like glue, fending off advances from various other guys. For me it was well worth it just to have what I perceived to be the most beautiful girl in the place only have eyes for me.
The last 2 Fridays I have knocked off of work early for a relaxing afternoon at the ShiYi sauna with some Chinese business collogues. Please see my previous post regarding this sauna for a map and directions. In this previous post I had mentioned 2 different room types - "standard," which consisted of a small room with a full size bed, and "VIP" which was more like a suite with a sitting area, small bathroom, and bedroom with 2 single beds. The advantage of the VIP room is that there a locking door between the bedroom and the sitting room, giving you more privacy. In the standard room the main door has a small window allowing anyone to peak inside and see what is going on. This seemed to make my girl nervous the few times I tried the standard room.
Having now visited with some Chinese friends I have learned that what I thought was a VIP room was only a "standard suite", and there are actually 2 large VIP rooms. These rooms consists of a large sitting area, 4 side rooms, and a large bathroom. In the large sitting area is a sofa similar to what you would find in a KTV room, and a large TV with KTV setup. 2 of the side rooms contain Mahjongg tables. One of the side rooms contains a twin bed, and the last one contains a double bed. The bathroom has a shower as well as a large whirlpool tub, big enough for 2 people.
Each afternoon we would start off enjoying the sauna's facilities on the first floor before heading upstairs to the VIP room. Once we got to the room we would order a late lunch (after 6 pm they have a food buffet setup, but you can order dishes anytime through the day), and eat. We would then ask to see the lineup of girls. During the day there are only a handful of girls on duty, with the first major shift arriving after 3 pm. From what I recall the girls charge 288 RMB for a 90 minute massage. If you want "full service" the girl will charge you for 2 sessions, but only give you 90 minutes. On my last visit I enjoyed her services twice during the 90 minutes for no additional charge, but this my depend on the girl. After the massage you are free to relax in the room, or even go back down and soak in the pools again and shower before getting dressed and leaving.
As someone has pointed out, the sauna experience can be very mechanical unless you take control of the situation. Leave the girl in control and you will receive the same scripted performance with very little variation regardless of which girl you choose (the script does change from sauna to sauna, but in my experience they are all very similar). Sometimes this is not bad you generally know what you are getting, but it does take some of the anticipation away. I have never had a problem getting the girl to change things up, so do not feel like you are tied into their routine.
All said and done there were 4 of us that were at the sauna for around 3 hours. We each utilized the sauna facilities, shared the VIP room, had lunch, and received a full service massage. The total cost was 3700 RMB. By the way, they do take credit cards and offer fa piaos described as a "meal". For reference a standard room is 50 RMB per hour, a Standard Suite is 60 RMB per hour, and one of the VIP rooms is 1000 RMB per day (I do not know if there is an hourly rate). Add to this around 50 RMB for use of the sauna facilities, and whatever massage you choose starting at 128 RMB for a straight, no funny business massage, 288 RMB for a massage with happy ending, and 288 RMB X 2 (576 RMB) for a full service massage.
I have to say that the sauna is becoming my favorite medium for the hobby. So far I have only tried the ShiYi and the ChunXiuLu. The ChunXiuLu is "nicer," and seems to have a better selection of girls, but it is also more expensive. I know they also have large VIP rooms available, but I would imagine a similar experience would cost double at ChunXiuLu then it would at ShiYi. That being said, I have not taken my Chinese business friends there yet, so I will have to give it a shot and see. I find the ShiYi to be a very good value for the money. I am open to try other saunas recommended by board members, but I must admit I do not read Chinese, and I am terrible with directions, so the location will need to be very carefully described.
Good luck, and enjoy Chinese New Year!
Sammy[/QUOTE]
Great Report.
I'll be back in Beijing at the end of the month. I'll have a few days with no business and I appriciate the info on the Saunas. I am staying at the Holiday Inn Lido. Are the suanas you mention close to there?
[QUOTE=Sammy_T] I have noticed an increased number of both Mongolian and Chinese girls telling me that they are no longer allowed to go to Maggie's. I ask if they have caused some type of trouble, but they said no, they have just been turned away at the door. Maybe soon Maggie's will have a velvet rope out front with a bouncer deciding who can come in, and who must stay out :)[/QUOTE]I was told by a Mongolian regular I had last summer, that the girls will get knocked back if they are found out to lack a certain high standard for example have the same clothes on more than twice a week.
[QUOTE=Sammy_T]All said and done there were 4 of us that were at the sauna for around 3 hours. We each utilized the sauna facilities, shared the VIP room, had lunch, and received a full service massage. The total cost was 3700 RMB. By the way, they do take credit cards.
Sammy[/QUOTE]This sauna sounds like fun. Having just came back from a marathon in Thailand, I can honestly say its going to take something very special to beat my Massage Parlour experiences down there, again! But as my sauna experience in Beijing, has been more towards 1200+rmb per person, this place definatley sounds alright. And I love the way you can pay for pussy with a credit card but other than that, they're practically useless in china. Very handy when for when you rack a high bill by falling asleep on the job in a room charged at 168rmb/hour :D ooooops!!!
Sid
Mark,
Great post -- sounds like you're keeping the girls on their toes. I too, like the chase, but it's always nice to have a little bit of background info.
Would you be willing to share the contact info of girl #2 (the "good girl")? I am partial to busty locals and her attitude sounded good. You're not receiving PMs -- are you able to drop me one?
Cheers
[QUOTE=Mark17]I'm a regular visitor to BJ (and other parts of China) I'm here a week before the Chinese New Year. Staying in BJ for a few days. Dissapointed that most of the girls who I have a number with, have gone home already for the holiday.
Made a few stops at several bars on Saturday night with nothing catching my eye. Went to the HRC about 11:30. I have tried to stay away from the place for awhile because I know many of the girls there. I like variety, and it is difficult to tell someone to get lost. Went in, and before I could order a beer, a cute tall Chinese girl was by my side. I turned my head and immediately noticed her 35C's. And they looked natural. She was cute, but not a knock out, but I decided to talk with her. About 10 minutes later, another girl who I knew, (actually sent me an sms the day before) came up and said hi, but she politely did not stay as she saw I had company.
Ended up negotiating from 1000 to 600 and went back to the room. I was right, she had gorgeous natural breast, and a fit body. Showered and in the sack. Her BJ was ok, but I gave her a few pointers, which she tried to do. Not bad. While sucking her breast she was making some fake moaning sounds. Fake, but it was good. She kept telling me how big I was, and how she wanted big one inside. We started round one, and her fake moaning turned to real moans. She was very focal, and saying, "oh so hard. So big for me. I like it. Harder. Harder." I turned me on quite a bit. Used some cialis before venturing out, so I was quite primed. Good finish, and I wanted to rest. She layed there a few minutes and started another BJ. I wanted to relax, but she got me up again, and without asking, put on another condom, and jumped on top. Wild ride for both of us.
Got her number, and thought I would see her again before I left.
Sunday, I was tired, and decided to go to the P & G, have not been there for awhile. Not on a hunt, but if I saw something that caught my eye, ok, if not, ok too. Walk in, and the other girl from HRC is by the door. Shit! Have some small talk, and she asked me if I had a good time last night with the other girl. I told her a few details, said she was really horny, and loud. She told me the girl is her friend. And she is a good girl. Always horny. 5 minutes later, the girl walks in. Strike 2! They talk in Chinese. And I can understand some. Basically about me, and they both like me in bed. I pretend not to understand and ask them what they are saying. And they say, "nothing bad about you, just girl talk". Then they ask me if I want to take both of them to my room. And I said, sure, but I don't have much money. Thinking I could get a deal. But girl 1 just mention the ATM, how I am a rich American. She is always like that, and one reason I do not like her much. Anyways, tell them I am just relaxing. Not iterested tonight, and they decide to go the HRC. The girl from the night before says I want to see you again before you leave BJ as she leaves.
As soon as they leave, a girl that was stand close comes up to me, and makes her move. She asks me to take her home, as she is horny. Not a dog, but no beauty. Mentions that she thinks I am a strong man, and she needs good sex. (must have been listening to the other two girls. I tell her she has to pay me, and she says "no problem, I have money" and opens her purse and pulls out a wad of 100's. I politely decline telling her I am tired, maybe another night.
By this time only the Mongo's are left at the P & G, and I head out. Stop at Nashvilles for a few beers and listen to the guitar player (good Philipino guy that plays there all the time)[/QUOTE]
I know this question doesn't get raised a lot here, but has anyone heard whether online sites, private parties, or any similar venues exist for couples to meet up with other couples (or singles)?
These are a dime a dozen in Europe, Japan, and the US, but an exhaustive google search turned up almost nothing besides one site with maybe 2 dozen or so couples, mostly older. Surprisingly, 75% were Chinese.
I have to believe that with an expat population the size it is here, something must exist to meet that market demand (or maybe I need to quit my job...)
Anyone hear anything about the scene?
[QUOTE=Travelers25]I know this question doesn't get raised a lot here, but has anyone heard whether online sites, private parties, or any similar venues exist for couples to meet up with other couples (or singles)?
These are a dime a dozen in Europe, Japan, and the US, but an exhaustive google search turned up almost nothing besides one site with maybe 2 dozen or so couples, mostly older. Surprisingly, 75% were Chinese.
I have to believe that with an expat population the size it is here, something must exist to meet that market demand (or maybe I need to quit my job...)
Anyone hear anything about the scene?[/QUOTE]Have you tried the other AFF (Adultfriendfinder)? You can guess the URL, I'm sure. Have seen quite a few postings for Beijing. Good luck and keep us posted.
There is definitely swinging going on, both mixed couples and pure Chinese couples. The best way to get into it is to get an AdultFriendFinder membership and start making contact.
I went to the 6th club today for the first time for lunch and had a look around their Sauna area. There were loads of very attractive ladies around and fantastic facilities. Have any of you tried the place out? Can you give some advice? Is Chinese only and mine is non-existant.
As I understand, Passion club in Sheraton is now closed. Anybody knows if a replacement is in the offing where we can see some nice slim tall ones ? Is Diamond Age as good ? Haven't seen any report on it.
Are you sure Passion's is closed? My collegue was just there during the Xmas Holidays.
'lad
[QUOTE=Legal Lad]Are you sure Passion's is closed? My collegue was just there during the Xmas Holidays.
'lad[/QUOTE]I read one report on this board that it was closed. Any Beijing denizens are welcome to jump in here to clarify and while we are at that feel free to mention any other high end clubs.
OMG, I am being sent to Beijing for 3 weeks on the company dime. Been reading posts, but am clueless as to some jargon. I honestly need some advice on protocol and procedure. Can someone help a fellow monger out? All I know are AMPS in PA & MI.
JKtravl:
here's all the jargon you need to know : "RTFF"
It means read the fucking forum. If you can't get clarrification on the jargon by reading the forum, then you have no business mongering in China - you will get burned.
I'd have to say your post was the most insulting I've read in at least 2 years. Jeezus...
Passions is open; was there 2 weeks ago.
Thoughtless, hasty, and out of sync with forum. But insulting?
JKTravl: spend some time reading the many excellent posts here. There is a link at the top of the page for abbreviations. That should explain most of the strange words you see. But mostly, take more than 5 minutes to read and research things here. It isn't hard to figure out.
[QUOTE=Lao Ma]JKtravl:
here's all the jargon you need to know : "RTFF"
It means read the fucking forum. If you can't get clarrification on the jargon by reading the forum, then you have no business mongering in China - you will get burned.
I'd have to say your post was the most insulting I've read in at least 2 years. Jeezus.
Passions is open; was there 2 weeks ago.[/QUOTE]
Hi
I tried to search for GF hotels to stay at, but as the format of this site is one huge thread, all I get back is the entire thread.
I would like to come to Beijing for a few days, I have read a few posts about clubs to try, but can not really see anything about GF hotels, or is there no problems?
Any advice would be welcome, before I fly.
[QUOTE=Lao Ma]JKtravl:
here's all the jargon you need to know : "RTFF"
It means read the fucking forum. If you can't get clarrification on the jargon by reading the forum, then you have no business mongering in China - you will get burned.
I'd have to say your post was the most insulting I've read in at least 2 years. Jeezus...
Passions is open; was there 2 weeks ago.[/QUOTE]
Easy on these newbies to the china forum. we all started with training wheels ...
JKTRAVEL..... read a bit before asking....a word from the wise.
have fun...play hard and safe... will be back in china in late march...
[QUOTE=Badboy27]I read one report on this board that it was closed. Any Beijing denizens are welcome to jump in here to clarify and while we are at that feel free to mention any other high end clubs.[/QUOTE]
I was their last month so i suspect its still open. Often places will close for Xmas and reopen after chinese new year, but as Passions was open in mid-January i suspect it should still be rocking. However its chinese new year, so it may be rather quiet this week and could be closed for the chinese new year week.
[QUOTE=Sa Fican]I went to the 6th club today for the first time for lunch and had a look around their Sauna area. There were loads of very attractive ladies around and fantastic facilities. Have any of you tried the place out? Can you give some advice? Is Chinese only and mine is non-existant.[/QUOTE]Where is the 6th Club? I did a search but could not find it. Is it a sauna? Sounds interesting.
Phenyl: How is that post insulting ? It's insulting to every single contributing member who has ever posted useful information (doesn't include you, obviously), as this chap obviously has not spent time going through the thread. It's insulting because on the toolbars, there is a "Rule" button, as well as a "FAQ" button, as well as an "Abbreviations" button. It's insulting because there is a whole reports of distinction section that this guy obviously hasn't looked at.
More importantly, it's insulting because I don't have a clue what kind of help this guy wants - does he want help on where to go ? does he want help on how much to pay ? does he want help on where to stay ? does he want help on how to say blow me in chinese ? does he want help on calling his momma ? All he said was (and I paraphrase) Oh my god ! I'm going to Beijing ! What should I do ? Help !
I jus think that's a lame post, and it's insulting.
Phenyl, you don't have any posts and you've never contributed. So why would you be insulted ? You're either a noobie, who has not yet taken the time and actually gone out to report something to the forum that helps the others, or else you are one of the 95% of the viewers of ISG who never report a friggin thing, and who just lurk and take, take, take.
TSLondon,
If I understand you correctly, you're having troubles turning up the actual results of your search. Best way is to specify on the search page that you want results to display as POSTS, not threads. Then, you probably want to increase number of characters to display, so that you can see just by scrolling the relevant info.
Hope this helps.
[QUOTE=TSLondon]Hi
I tried to search for GF hotels to stay at, but as the format of this site is one huge thread, all I get back is the entire thread.
I would like to come to Beijing for a few days, I have read a few posts about clubs to try, but can not really see anything about GF hotels, or is there no problems?
Any advice would be welcome, before I fly.[/QUOTE]
No luck connecting from China and have been surprised if others have -- that was what I was hoping for. For those that use QQ, etc, have you had any success for this purpose? Am thinking of something along the lines of a Yahoo group for Beijing swingers.
Anyhow, don't want to lead this forum off its main intent -- if someone knows of a private group, even one or two insiders that may know the closed community, please PM me.
PS, apparently Chinese swingers and wife swappers have gotten arrested since it is technically against the law (but what isn't?)
[QUOTE=Intransit]There is definitely swinging going on, both mixed couples and pure Chinese couples. The best way to get into it is to get an AdultFriendFinder membership and start making contact.[/QUOTE]
Hi,
Hope I dont get flamed for this.
I have searched the forum and so far found the following hotels described as friendly.
I needed this for myself, but also wanted to create this for others trying a similar search.
Please add to the list any more hotels or comments about the hotel.
Would also help to say where to avoid, as it will save people asking.
SAS Radisson
Hilton
Jing Guang New World Centre serviced apartments to the list. Location is along the 3rd Ring ROad and its about equidistant to the HRC, The Den, and Maggies.
The Ascott
Ascott (Ya She Ge) serviced apartments
Fu Kingston Apartment, 58 East san huan, block C. Number is 5867 4000.
Courtyard
holiday inn
The "Fu Jian" Hotel
Dong Jiao Ming Xiang Hotel.
Lido,
Great Wall Sheraton,
Kerry Centre,
Traders
Swissotel
[QUOTE=Travelers25]No luck connecting from China ..... (in regards to AdultFriendFinder site)[/QUOTE]I have also experienced the efficiency of the Great Firewall of China when trying to access this particular site. As a workaround, try navigating to XMatch rather than AdultFriendFinder. The XMatch site is like a mirror, so your normal login name & password should work, and it seems like the emails stored in each location are *usually* in sync too.
Of course, I can only assume it will soon be added to the list of blocked sites, but it is still working as of today
[QUOTE=TSLondon]Jing Guang New World Centre serviced apartments to the list. Location is along the 3rd Ring ROad and its about equidistant to the HRC, The Den, and Maggies.
The Ascott
Ascott (Ya She Ge) serviced apartments
Fu Kingston Apartment, 58 East san huan, block C. Number is 5867 4000.[/QUOTE]I cant imagine how any serviced apartment buildings could possibly prevent you from taking guests? I can understand some hotels but surely the idea of an apartment is that it is up to you?
Anyway, for some strange reason, I ended up in the Howard Johnson Paragon Hotel on friday night at a very early hour. I didnt notice a single security guard at all and we barely even got an eyelid raised from the girl on reception. Cant remember much apart from that but I've never even heard of the place so I thought I would give it a mention. Its off Jiang Guo Men and only rmb10 (rmb11 at night) from Maggies.
Sid
TS,
The Sheraton is definitely not girl-friendly.
[QUOTE=Asbguy]Where is the 6th Club? I did a search but could not find it. Is it a sauna? Sounds interesting.[/QUOTE]
The 6th Club is new and is in a recently developed area south of Jiangguomen Wai Dajie at Young Anli It is a large hotel like building and according to the ads in my apartment building and pictures out front it has a restaurant, lounges, fitness club pool, shops and what appears to be hotel rooms. I guess it is a private club that you pay to belong to and then have use of the facilities. It is modern and looks expensive.
Not sure about the girl-friendlyness about the hotels that someone enquired here earlier.
However, here's a work-around, although it involves a bit of effort and works better if the girl speaks English and / or you speak Chinese. It also helps if she doesn't look like an obvious working girl.
1. Get two room keys made when you check in.
2. Give one to the girl and ask her to go up first, a minute or so of time difference is ok, you can even enter the same lift as long as the security or other staff don't see you come into the hotel together.
3. Ask her to hold the card casually, and walk in as if she belongs there.
4. Also, if you know the girl from before, see her outside of the hotel and give her your PC bag to carry when she walks in. Holding a shopping bag from a nearby see-store also helps.
5. Security guards will not typically risk a scene by stopping someone who looks legit, even if they have a suspicion they are not.
Alternatively, consider staying at a different place for the action. Maybe a bit laborious and better suited to 'locals' than the one-off traveler, but worth knowing about.
1. Home Inn, that chain of low-budget hotels, offer 4-hour half-day rates for Y 150 plus Y 50 refundable deposit. You check in as usual and then sms the girl your room number or take her in. The rooms are clean and comfortable and have everything you need. I have not tried this at night, but during day-time, it's a great option, also for those with nosy neighbors.
2. The '8' entertainment complex near Chaoyang Park (forgive me for not putting the address here, I just don't know it) has sauna facilities and you can rent private rooms there. All you do is check in together, change separately and then meet in the room. I have not used it myself, but friends have, and it works.
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[QUOTE=Travelin Guy]I have also experienced the efficiency of the Great Firewall of China when trying to access this particular site. As a workaround, try navigating to XMatch rather than AdultFriendFinder. The XMatch site is like a mirror, so your normal login name & password should work, and it seems like the emails stored in each location are *usually* in sync too.
Of course, I can only assume it will soon be added to the list of blocked sites, but it is still working as of today[/QUOTE]This 'Great Firewall' can be avoided.
Try to have a look at [url]http://www.http-tunnel.com/html/[/url]. With this prog you can access any website. Even from China.
[QUOTE=Jktravl]OMG, I am being sent to Beijing for 3 weeks on the company dime. Been reading posts, but am clueless as to some jargon. I honestly need some advice on protocol and procedure. Can someone help a fellow monger out? All I know are AMPS in PA & MI.[/QUOTE]
When will you be in Beijing? I'll be there on March 1st staying at the Holiday Inn Lido for the week. I've been the china about 10 times in different parts. If you’re around the Holiday Inn let me know and let’s have a drink. I'll let you know what little knowledge I have gathered.
Hello,
I have to go to a business trip to Beijing. Does somebody have any idea if there is any action at this or arround this hotel? (it is at the chongwen district)
Thanks for the information.
Finally got round to checking out the above place.
In terms of address/ location, it is really not difficult to find. Coming from Dongzhimen Daijie from the direction of the German and Canadian embassy,i.e. away from the 3rd Ring, just turn right into Chun Xiu Liu. As described by another post, there's a Pizza Hut on the opposite corner.
Walk on the left side for about 100 meters. The Sauna is the building with a lot of neon lights outside, it is also higher than the other buildings (4 or 5 stories). If you pass a Supermarket and , after that, the Red House hotel, you have gone too far.
The place itself was soso in my view:
1. I found it relatvely dirty, compared to saunas in Shanghai or Hong Kong, e.g. changing room floor has a lot of dust, shower area has stains and empty packaging lying around. Maybe it's just quite local in a sense and more mid- than up-market. I am not being squeamish, I think it's decent and 'doable', but not a 4-star.
2. Up on the fourth floor, rooms are actually better / cleaner, although stair carpets etc also not too clean.
3. Service for the 840 package included fire & ice, lackluster massage, and FS. Girl was ok, but just going thru the motions. At least no fake moaning.
Paid 888 altogether, including the entrance fee of 48. They take card (no AMEX though) and give you an official, machine-printed fapiao.
Maybe it was because of CNY week or so (hence slow biz, fewer grrls, no cleaners etc) but I wasn't too impressed. More of an option when you can't hook up with anyone else or for the intrepid explorer.
Anyway, other folks obviously liked the place, so this is really just my perspective.
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Guys,
I will be in Beijing tomorrow night and since I'm alone, I guess if anybody is interested to visit some russian club or other places toghether.
Please answer me on the forum.
Bye
[QUOTE=Asd Qwert]When will you be in Beijing? I'll be there on March 1st staying at the Holiday Inn Lido for the week. I've been the china about 10 times in different parts. If you’re around the Holiday Inn let me know and let’s have a drink. I'll let you know what little knowledge I have gathered.[/QUOTE]Expect to be there around the 26th. Not sure where I'm staying, just know it's a starwood property, so most likely a sheraton or affiliate. Loa Ma, thanks for your advice and thanks to those who came in my defense. My concern going to a communist country is protocol and procedure and want to make sure I have proper ettiquette so I don't end up calling an embassy for help. Now can everybody get past flaming my neophyte experience? I'm learning and reading.
Hi guys,
Thanks for all good informations in this forum. I've been in China many times and know that the business change fast.
But now I have a very nice chinese girlfriend and she enjoys various games. So we want to meet some couples, groups or join some parties.
She's bi, 26years, slim and very cute. I am 36 and a normal caucasian.
Would be nice to share some experiences and maybe organize some parties.
Have a good time.
SH
I agree with you. I do not know many people that give this place a good review. It's the fact that, there are not many options in Beijing. At least if there are, they are not too well known. Like Shanghai and other places.
I was there once, and the girl would not give a BJ, and the sex was mechanical at best. Waste of time and money. Better to take a chance on a FL from HRC or P&W.
[QUOTE=Farmer Joe]Finally got round to checking out the above place.
In terms of address/ location, it is really not difficult to find. Coming from Dongzhimen Daijie from the direction of the German and Canadian embassy,i.e. away from the 3rd Ring, just turn right into Chun Xiu Liu. As described by another post, there's a Pizza Hut on the opposite corner.
Walk on the left side for about 100 meters. The Sauna is the building with a lot of neon lights outside, it is also higher than the other buildings (4 or 5 stories). If you pass a Supermarket and , after that, the Red House hotel, you have gone too far.
The place itself was soso in my view:
1. I found it relatvely dirty, compared to saunas in Shanghai or Hong Kong, e.g. changing room floor has a lot of dust, shower area has stains and empty packaging lying around. Maybe it's just quite local in a sense and more mid- than up-market. I am not being squeamish, I think it's decent and 'doable', but not a 4-star.
2. Up on the fourth floor, rooms are actually better / cleaner, although stair carpets etc also not too clean.
3. Service for the 840 package included fire & ice, lackluster massage, and FS. Girl was ok, but just going thru the motions. At least no fake moaning.
Paid 888 altogether, including the entrance fee of 48. They take card (no AMEX though) and give you an official, machine-printed fapiao.
Maybe it was because of CNY week or so (hence slow biz, fewer grrls, no cleaners etc) but I wasn't too impressed. More of an option when you can't hook up with anyone else or for the intrepid explorer.
Anyway, other folks obviously liked the place, so this is really just my perspective.
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Been to Bejing recently. I was not looking for any action due to the fact that I was with company. However, it doesn't take more than 30 secs before the action comes to you (at least concerning non-Asians who apparently stick out in the crowd). I was shopping and strowling around several times around the Wangfujian area and shopping malls. Literally within seconds of being alone and waiting (and looking anything but horny), I got approached several times by girls proposing services.
Most of these girls take up "strategic" positions around the railings of the second floor in malls where they can watch the scence and spot potential customers. The girls seemed to be around 20 to 24, speaking basic to intermediate English, "normally" dressed; rather school girl type than provincial. Since I didn't engage in negotiations, I cannot tell anything about prices. In terms of looks, 6-8 range, didn't look like "professionals"; GFE very much imageinable.
Hope this helps Bejing travellers who are concerned about not finding any action. If I stayed near Wangfujian alone, I'd certainly give it a try instead of travelling to far away massage places in seedy neighborhoods.
[QUOTE=Producer]...around the Wangfujian area and shopping malls. Literally within seconds of being alone and waiting (and looking anything but horny), I got approached several times by girls proposing services.
[/QUOTE]
Are you quite sure they are offering a sex service? Just checking they are not trying to scam you by inviting to an overpriced KTV/Coffeeshop/Art Gallery
BJK
[QUOTE=Producer]Been to Bejing recently. I was not looking for any action due to the fact that I was with company. However, it doesn't take more than 30 secs before the action comes to you (at least concerning non-Asians who apparently stick out in the crowd). I was shopping and strowling around several times around the Wangfujian area and shopping malls. Literally within seconds of being alone and waiting (and looking anything but horny), I got approached several times by girls proposing services.
Most of these girls take up "strategic" positions around the railings of the second floor in malls where they can watch the scence and spot potential customers. The girls seemed to be around 20 to 24, speaking basic to intermediate English, "normally" dressed; rather school girl type than provincial. Since I didn't engage in negotiations, I cannot tell anything about prices. In terms of looks, 6-8 range, didn't look like "professionals"; GFE very much imageinable.
Hope this helps Bejing travellers who are concerned about not finding any action. If I stayed near Wangfujian alone, I'd certainly give it a try instead of travelling to far away massage places in seedy neighborhoods.[/QUOTE]
I am interested in whether the propositions were specific or whether this was a scam attempt. Most of us have been approached by young girls, often in pairs, who are really interested in nothing more than steering a sucker to a restaurant or bar where some exorbitant charge will eventually be presented. This seems to be a popular and lucrative pastime for girls on Nanjing Road in Shanghai. In the case of a scam, specific requests or suggestions for services are deflected.
it's no scam - I lived in Oriental Towers for a long time, and maybe 20% of the time when I went downstairs to the mall, I'd run into working girls. Saw a few of the Pig girls, the ocassional mogolian. Mainly chinese girls. They go between the mall and the lobby of the Hyatt. And of course on Wangfujing itself there are hookers - that's where the infamous Mary plied her trade almost exclusively.
I agree its for real as I followed a beautiful girl entering Oriental Plaza mall from subway when she was stopped by security and detained at the police station just off the subway station into the Mall. As Mall was closing several girls follwed me all the way back to the Crowne Plaza. They were still there when I later went out for a walk after finishing with a beauty parlour beauty from the Hotel pool of service providers. Relatively expensive though at 1200 but pretty good variety of positions and services. Many mamasans will provide service providers to your room at between 800 and 1000 for LT. Even got one into the Prime Hotel once after the elevator guy left at 11. Had STs off of Wanfujing for 500 and repeaters from HRC for 600 after initial 3 hour session for 800. Just don't follow the touts amd waste your time in some underground KTV away from Sanlitun. Enclosed is pic of parlour girl that was totally wild.
[QUOTE=Producer]Been to Bejing recently. I was not looking for any action due to the fact that I was with company. However, it doesn't take more than 30 secs before the action comes to you (at least concerning non-Asians who apparently stick out in the crowd). I was shopping and strowling around several times around the Wangfujian area and shopping malls. Literally within seconds of being alone and waiting (and looking anything but horny), I got approached several times by girls proposing services.
Most of these girls take up "strategic" positions around the railings of the second floor in malls where they can watch the scence and spot potential customers. The girls seemed to be around 20 to 24, speaking basic to intermediate English, "normally" dressed; rather school girl type than provincial. Since I didn't engage in negotiations, I cannot tell anything about prices. In terms of looks, 6-8 range, didn't look like "professionals"; GFE very much imageinable.
Hope this helps Bejing travellers who are concerned about not finding any action. If I stayed near Wangfujian alone, I'd certainly give it a try instead of travelling to far away massage places in seedy neighborhoods.[/QUOTE]
I seem to have brought up a topic of interest. As mentioned before, I have not used any services due to personal company during my stay in Beijing. On most occasions, however, the girls approaching me in the malls and on the street have been very direct with their propositions (sex, stolen mobile phones etc.).
It's certainly possible that some girls try to scam you in one way or the other but that's the case in any mongering place and the reason why it is important IMO to make it clear to the opposite "working" party within the first minute what the service/expectations/prices are. I've been to discos, dinners etc with working girls / escorts but it was always my proposition and I decided where to go and what to do (not going to "an uncle's place" or whatever). Never experienced any problem in terms of scam that way; worst thing that can happen is that the girl is bored (losing time on further paid encounters) or that she feels uneasy because of an environment, such as a posh restaurant which is unknown to her.
[QUOTE=Producer]I seem to have brought up a topic of interest. As mentioned before, I have not used any services due to personal company during my stay in Beijing. On most occasions, however, the girls approaching me in the malls and on the street have been very direct with their propositions (sex, stolen mobile phones etc.).
It's certainly possible that some girls try to scam you in one way or the other but that's the case in any mongering place and the reason why it is important IMO to make it clear to the opposite "working" party within the first minute what the service/expectations/prices are. I've been to discos, dinners etc with working girls / escorts but it was always my proposition and I decided where to go and what to do (not going to "an uncle's place" or whatever). Never experienced any problem in terms of scam that way; worst thing that can happen is that the girl is bored (losing time on further paid encounters) or that she feels uneasy because of an environment, such as a posh restaurant which is unknown to her.[/QUOTE]
I understand better now. Thanks to all those who clarified. As a cultural aside, they tell me the "jing3" (井)in Wangfujing means "well", as in water source. There is a plaque in the pavement to indicate the location of this old well.
Hello all,
I am attending the 2008 Olympics in Beijing and I would like all of the imput I can get on which hotel to select. I can select from three 4 Star and three 5 star hotels. Need the experts help.
And is it worth it to go to 5 star over 4 star as it will be $2000 more for my 10 day stay.
4 star
Beijing Zhengxie conference center
Holiday Inn Lido
Beijing Freindship Hotel
5 Star
Grand Hyatt
Jing Guang New World Hotel
Beijing International Hotel
My wish list is the following:
CLEAN.CLEAN
Working A/C and hot water
Girl Friendly
IF possible, please give your input and rank them if you wish.
I appreciate it and I look forward to meeting some of you next year.
Drinks on me for great insight !
C
[QUOTE=TheGun]Hello all,
I am attending the 2008 Olympics in Beijing and I would like all of the imput I can get on which hotel to select. I can select from three 4 Star and three 5 star hotels. Need the experts help.
And is it worth it to go to 5 star over 4 star as it will be $2000 more for my 10 day stay.
4 star
Beijing Zhengxie conference center
Holiday Inn Lido
Beijing Freindship Hotel
5 Star
Grand Hyatt
Jing Guang New World Hotel
Beijing International Hotel
My wish list is the following:
CLEAN.CLEAN
Working A/C and hot water
Girl Friendly
IF possible, please give your input and rank them if you wish.
I appreciate it and I look forward to meeting some of you next year.
Drinks on me for great insight !
C[/QUOTE]
I think you are out of luck Mr Gun. From my memory, none of the 4 or 5 star hotels in Beijing have airconditioning, only very occasional hot water, and are unclean most of the time.
But girl friendly is usually not a problem, unless things change for the Olympics.
Good luck anyway. And I look forward to the drink.
jack
Gun, you posted a virtually identical question in December. Did you not go to China ? If you had, maybe you wouldn't ask such a stupid quesion. (not saying you are stupid, just the question you asked).
Here's some really breaking news: Virtually all of the 4 star and 5 star hotels in China have A/C, and running water that gets hot if you turn the knob in the right direction. And they have elevators, and internet access, and the minibars tend to have Snickers bars, or else Kit Kat's.
During the Olympics, do you really think that the government will allow hotels to have bad A/C and hot water ? The star rated hotels in Beijing during the Olympics will ALL be clean, have new bedsheets, probably new mattresses, and rumour has it, doors with locks and even televisions.
I won't even touch the question of girl friendly hotels. If i did, I'd probably get a pissed off and just say read the damn forum. But I won't do that. The nice guy I am, I'll give you a recomendation. Stay at the Grand Hyatt. Jing Guang is sterile and boring; Beijing International Hotel is more like a 3.5 star.
[QUOTE=Lao Ma] Stay at the Grand Hyatt. Jing Guang is sterile and boring; Beijing International Hotel is more like a 3.5 star.[/QUOTE]He's absolutely right.
Sorry you feel the question was stupid. Maybe you were having a bad day. And yes I posed a similar question in December and the agency I am working with has sent me updated information on the hotels and they need to have my decision within a few weeks as to which hotel I want to stay in for their coordination purposes.
Yes, I have been to China and as my friend below Jack has stated most are not always clean, have hot water or even working A/see.
I was trying to use this forum to get some accurate information because I can't stay in every hotel and most reviews from several travel web sites are spotty and dated at best.
I know the Holiday Inn has the Pig so I again, was just asking for help. I know the Sheraton has Passions but it is not one of the hotels I can get my rates for.
In the future, you can ignore my questions and keep your negative comments to yourself. Have a nice day.
C
[QUOTE=Jack Spratt]I think you are out of luck Mr Gun. From my memory, none of the 4 or 5 star hotels in Beijing have airconditioning, only very occasional hot water, and are unclean most of the time.
But girl friendly is usually not a problem, unless things change for the Olympics.
Good luck anyway. And I look forward to the drink.
Jack[/QUOTE]Jack,
How long you don't stay at a 4 or 5 star hotel in Beijing ?
I agree with Lao Ma's statement: they are all CLEAN and equipped with all desirable features.
As far as girl friendliness, in some hotel you must be careful when bringing a girl (Great Wall Sheraton just to mention one).
Gun,
May I suggest you to have a look at serviced apartments as an alternative ?
Normally, in those locations they don't care about whom you get to your room.
Unfortunately the agency dictates the hotels and you can't ala carte the trip. So I am stuck with one of the 6 hotels.
It seems that Holiday Inn maybe the best bet? Agree?
[QUOTE=Albert Punter]Jack,
How long you don't stay at a 4 or 5 star hotel in Beijing ?
I agree with Lao Ma's statement: they are all CLEAN and equipped with all desirable features.
As far as girl friendliness, in some hotel you must be careful when bringing a girl (Great Wall Sheraton just to mention one).
Gun,
May I suggest you to have a look at serviced apartments as an alternative ?
Normally, in those locations they don't care about whom you get to your room.[/QUOTE]
Sorry Albert - it's called irony.
They are, after all, 4 and 5 star hotels in a major world city. I would hesitate to ask anyone on a public forum about whether such hotels had aircon, hot water etc. The words naive and ignorant (not you) spring to mind.
jack
I guess some people always look into or read into things.
My comments about A/C and working Hot water were attributed to my extensive research on many travel web sites.
Many, many reviews state very clearly that rooms did not have working A/C the whole time and that the hot water was on/off, etc.
I have been to China, Macau, HK, and many other countries.
MY point of my post was to find if the members here have better or more accurate information that is posted on the sites I have reviews BECAUSE many reviews are dated and there is generally only one review for each hotel and I don't want to take one person's opinion for my decision.
Again, I was only looking for some help. Not for some bashing or statements to RTFB or that I am ignorant, etc.
Have a nice day.
If your looking for action during the 2008 Olympics in Beijing, you may be in for a big disappointment.
Have friends and acquaintances very familar with the Beijing "clean up" in preparation for the Olympics. Would be very very surprised if you are going to find anything. LE will be out in force to protect the "tourists." I'm sure if your don't mind some non air/no running water BBS, you may have some luck :)
Cheers
Thanks Legal. Don't mind that at all. Just not where I am staying.
Have to think there will be some fun though.
You will not have any problem with any of the facilities at a 4 or 5 star hotel in Beijing, or anywhere else in China for that matter. I would suspect that the 3 stars will probably be OK as well. Don't get me wrong, I have stayed in the no aircon/hot water hotels outside of Beijing, but these are never listed as 4 or 5 star hotels.[QUOTE=TheGun]It seems that Holiday Inn maybe the best bet? Agree?[/QUOTE]Everyone knows that I am a huge fan of the Lido and the Pig, but I think the Grand Hyatt is the best all-around hotel in Beijing. It is located down town within in a major shopping area, and within walking distance of one of the major tourist attractions - the Forbidden city. Even though the Lido is a 4 star hotel, it is getting old and run down. I would almost give them 3.5 stars, and they still charge 5 star prices. I am surprised to hear it is going to cost you $2000 extra (that is $200 extra per day over a 10 day trip) to stay at the 5 star vs the 4 star. I would expect it to be about $100 extra per day, but the rates must be jacked up for the Olympics. I still think that I would choose the comfort of the Hyatt and watch this board for where to find the girls over the Olympic week.
As a trial run for the Olympics Beijing put in to effect many of the measures they have planed during the African Summit that took place here this summer. It is the only time in the last 10 years that I have been going to Maggie's (has it really be 10 years, wow!), that they closed their doors to working girls due to government pressure. They were still open, and had their Chinese bar girls there, but the Mongolian girls were not allowed in. On the other hand, The Pig was packed every single night. Traffic was also well controlled, so if they put the same rules into effect staying down town will not be a huge traffic problem.
While we are on the topic, I agree with Albert Punter that a serviced apartment would be a very good alternative. I understand that this will not suit TheGun's needs, but for other that are considering traveling to Beijing you could probably book a service apartment for the whole month for the same cost of 10 days in a 4 or 5 star hotel. The benefits include all of the amenities of a hotel, plus a kitchen and the ability to (generally) bring back anyone you want, anytime you want.
Good Luck!
Sammy
That was a great reply and one that I was hoping to receive.
The cost is rated per day for everything not just the hotel.
It basically is for the flight, hotel, side trips, their help while you are there and help in getting tickets.
What i am paying right now for 10 days s little over $1000 more than what people are now paying for 6 days due to my registration a year ago with 1/3 deposit.
Is the Grand Hyatt girl friendly then?
I love the idea of the apt. but the biggest draw to this agency is them getting you tickets to any event , especially the closing ceremonies.
Now, if you can tell me of a reputable company in China that will be selling tickets at face value for all events, and I can get 2 tickets to any event, then please PM me or list your suggestion here because I may change my itinarary and do my trip piece by piece.
I will be there from 8/16-26 so i hope to see some of you guys there and buy you a drink for all of your direction.
I will even buy you one Lao. I know sometimes people get caught up in things so no worries!
Thanks again for everyone's insight.
Sammy / Intransit
You guys around Mar 17 to 21?
Will be in town for 4 nights - want to catch up if we can?
Intransit - Hollywood here we come!
Guys some interesting info from Shanghai over CNY.
Several Russian girls in Tongren Lu asking RMB2,000 to 2,500 ST - up to RMB3,500 LT - un-fucking-believable - just typical Hollywood quality - certainly not 'model' types.
2 Mongolian girls in Manhattan Bar on Tongren Lu on a Sat night stood with VERY LITTLE conversation with 'would-be' punters for 4 hrs before eventually being 'escorted' out the door.
Price offered to BBB 5 minutes after they arrived - RMB1,500 LT - 5 minutes before they left - RMB1,500.
Quality I hear you ask?
About very much 'MIDDLE OF THE ROAD' for a typical Maggies line-up.
Give me Beijing anytime - however I do just love that 'RED ROPE' at Shanghai Hotel.
Just as an update for those interested in experimenting, Viagra and Cialis are both available in many of the local neighborhood 'adult/ sex shops' (I saw it in three, so not a representative sample but nevertheless).
Hard to say whether they are real. If not, then at least the packaging and leaflets are copied to perfection (I. E. No spelling errors, plastic film covered cardboard box etc.) Sticker-price also suggests they are real, 200. 250 for a Cialis and around 400 for Viagra. Of course, that can all be done to make you believe it's not fake, but my sense is that these shops cater to locals who have more of a sense of what's real and what's not. The owner would therefore sell this stuff decidedly cheaper if it wasn't real. In fact, they do sell a local alternative at least to V, with similar packaging and naming, for much less.
Howdy!
I'll be passing through BJ (my first time) from March 22nd-April 2nd. I've read a lot about Maggies, Hollywood, Pig etc and am looking to get some (read a lot of) action -- since I've never had mongol,russian or chinese -- I'd like to try each. I'll be staying in the Haidan district and I was wondering if anyone has tips about joints / bars in that area? If not, I guess I'll have to move to prime downtown.
On another note, are FS massages typical even in high-end hotels?
Went to Tianlun Hotel's Capital KTV. Only two of us, so we decided not to get a room and sat in the bar area. Minimum charge per person is rmb 220. Drinks are pricy: rmb 60 for a beer; rmb 60 for mineral water.
Mamasan brought a few girls for us to select. she said because of Chinese New Year there were only 30 girls (normally 100+). The girls we selected were 6, 6.5 in looks. Takeout is available: we were quoted 1500 ST, 2000 LT.
When we left we gave each girl rmb 400, but one of them (both were very new. They started a few days ago) said we needed to pay mamasan as well. We were surprised because previous reports did not mention this. Anyone care to comment on this? Perhaps the girls were too new and gave us wrong information?
Total cost for two: (220 x 2) + (400 x 2) + 400 = 1640
We thought this was pricey. The experience was average, especially because there were not many girls and we did not get a room (which is rmb 1300 for a small one). Does anyone know if we need to pay mamason the rmb 400 for takeout?
There is a sex shop on the side street between the HRC and the Lufthansa center. Have several small shops. This store is about the second last one.
They sell some toys, and have Viagra and Cialis lin the package sealed that look legit. And have the generics, and other stuff. I bought the Cialis there several times, and it appears to work like the real stuff.
They ask 200RMB for one package (4 pills). I buy two packages for 300.
Have not tried the Viagra there, or the generics.
Does anyone have good mid-range KTV's that are suitable for entertaining western guests and also offer take-out? Passions is way too expensive. The girls are asking $3000 to start now. I was there this past week and saw the Kandi Club bar area. The quality seems to range from 6-10. The girls to guy ratio at the bar area seems to be 3:1. I would avoid it since I sense there are better options. I also checked out the Tianlun Dynasty KTV, the girls there are hotter I believe with a great selection. I went early at 9:30 and saw the girls strolling in. Take out costs will range about $2000-$2500 if you just view the girls from the bar area.
Both these KTV's are way too expensive. I remember Sammy writing about a Lido Area KTV. Sammy can you go into more details about the location and costs? Any English speaking staff or girls?
I consider Mid-Range costs around 2-4-8. KTV's with bar area to view girls also seem to be rare in the Mid-Range KTV's.
I will travel to Beijing in a few months.
Can anyone tell me anything about the following escort service?
[url]http://www.escortschina.com/[/url]
Is it worth the fee to join?
Alternatively, can anyone recommend any other Bejing escort service?
Call 13601190483 and get directions directly form the mamasan. The location is north east second ring, in the building with the huge NEC neon sign on top, which you can see when you drive on the second ring.
Mid room is 800RMB including 24 bottles of beer. 300RMB tip per girl. A plus there is that they also have some English speaking ones. Take out is possible, but as in every KTV you should ask about this when you pick the girls, since not every girl will be available for that (but 80% will).
[QUOTE=Nynyny]Does anyone have good mid-range KTV's that are suitable for entertaining western guests and also offer take-out? Passions is way too expensive. The girls are asking $3000 to start now. I was there this past week and saw the Kandi Club bar area. The quality seems to range from 6-10. The girls to guy ratio at the bar area seems to be 3:1. I would avoid it since I sense there are better options. I also checked out the Tianlun Dynasty KTV, the girls there are hotter I believe with a great selection. I went early at 9:30 and saw the girls strolling in. Take out costs will range about $2000-$2500 if you just view the girls from the bar area.
Both these KTV's are way too expensive. I remember Sammy writing about a Lido Area KTV. Sammy can you go into more details about the location and costs? Any English speaking staff or girls?
I consider Mid-Range costs around 2-4-8. KTV's with bar area to view girls also seem to be rare in the Mid-Range KTV's.[/QUOTE]
Normally you pay in KTVs:
1. The room, depending on size and whats included (drinks, snacks, etc.). A room good for 10-12 (5 or 6 guys plus 5-6 girls should be 600-1000 RMB, depending on room standard and drinks included. drinks included might be 20+ bottles of beer or 2 bottles of Whiskey incl. mixers)
2. The girls: Tip.. depending on the place, usually 200-300
3. Mamasan: 100-200
4. Waiter: 100, sometimes.
5. Toilet boy: 10, not mandatory
So, your experience in my opinion was a bit pricey if the girls were only "soso", but not outrageous. If the girls would be really nice, pretty and make a good show above standard, I would even say it would be a normal price for that.
[QUOTE=Asbguy]Went to Tianlun Hotel's Capital KTV. Only two of us, so we decided not to get a room and sat in the bar area. Minimum charge per person is rmb 220. Drinks are pricy: rmb 60 for a beer; rmb 60 for mineral water.
Mamasan brought a few girls for us to select. she said because of Chinese New Year there were only 30 girls (normally 100+). The girls we selected were 6, 6.5 in looks. Takeout is available: we were quoted 1500 ST, 2000 LT.
When we left we gave each girl rmb 400, but one of them (both were very new. They started a few days ago) said we needed to pay mamasan as well. We were surprised because previous reports did not mention this. Anyone care to comment on this? Perhaps the girls were too new and gave us wrong information?
Total cost for two: (220 x 2) + (400 x 2) + 400 = 1640
We thought this was pricey. The experience was average, especially because there were not many girls and we did not get a room (which is rmb 1300 for a small one). Does anyone know if we need to pay mamason the rmb 400 for takeout?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Asbguy]Went to Tianlun Hotel's Capital KTV. Only two of us, so we decided not to get a room and sat in the bar area. Minimum charge per person is rmb 220. Drinks are pricy: rmb 60 for a beer; rmb 60 for mineral water.
When we left we gave each girl rmb 400, but one of them (both were very new. They started a few days ago) said we needed to pay mamasan as well. We were surprised because previous reports did not mention this. Anyone care to comment on this? Perhaps the girls were too new and gave us wrong information?
Total cost for two: (220 x 2) + (400 x 2) + 400 = 1640
We thought this was pricey. The experience was average, especially because there were not many girls and we did not get a room (which is rmb 1300 for a small one). Does anyone know if we need to pay mamason the rmb 400 for takeout?[/QUOTE]
Mama-san Fee : This is reasonably pricey considering you were only in the bar, however i have come across it a few times - especially in the high class KTV's in shanghai - but i have never experienced it in Beijing in a bar. Its common if you take a room, but even then RM400 for the mama-san seems a bit steep - unless you got a great experience and intend to come back again. I normally give the mama-san from RM200-RM300 - but only if i am in a room. But i don't think you were massively ripped off - Passions or Diamond Age girls ask RM500 to just talk - but then there are no mamma-san's in the bar.
I do notice that my friends from Hong Kong, Singapore and taiwan seem to get asked to pay for a lot of extra's - if they are old timers they normally don't pay, if they are new they sometimes pay because they don't know the system. I suspect if you speak pudongwa and are new the locals have a greater latitude to ask for these extra's.
[QUOTE=S Ron Mi]I will travel to Beijing in a few months.
Can anyone tell me anything about the following escort service?
[url]http://www.escortschina.com/[/url]
Is it worth the fee to join?
Alternatively, can anyone recommend any other Bejing escort service?[/QUOTE]
I joined this for a time last year, but never had a chance to try it. There are too many more attractive, less expensive options. This site uses English, so the target audience is the well-heeled foreigner, us. Using this site will cost a premium, although the girls are probably legit. Many of the pictures are the same as [url]http://www.banwan.com[/url] or [url]http://www.travelion.com[/url] .
[QUOTE=Nynyny]I remember Sammy writing about a Lido Area KTV. Sammy can you go into more details about the location and costs? Any English speaking staff or girls? I consider Mid-Range costs around 2-4-8. KTV's with bar area to view girls also seem to be rare in the Mid-Range KTV's.[/QUOTE]
I am not sure what additional details you might need. The KTV scene can be a lot of fun but in my opinion it is better suited for a large group. Think of it more like a strip club environment back in the USA. Sure, you can go by yourself, but it is more fun when you go with a bunch of your friends.
The major downside is you really need to speak some Mandarin, or have a local friend who does, to truly take advantage of just about any KTV in China, including Beijing. Sure, you can get by at Passion's just speaking English, but that place can set you back thousands of US$, literally.
The KTV near the Lido on which I reported is reasonably priced, and it is possible to take girls out. Not every girl is available for take out, and none of the girls speak much English beyond very basic conversation "hello, where are you from, how old are you"
Tips for the girls runs 300 RMB for the whole night (paid at the end). For this the girls will let you touch them all over, and they will get naked and dance for you if you want too. When you are ready to go you will need to negotiate with the individual girl as to how much. A friend had no problem taking his girl out for only 400 RMB, but my girl would not go home with me regardless of the money I offered.
Location (you should take a taxi as it is a little beyond walking distance) - go out the main Lido gate and turn left. Go under the airport express way and through the first and second light. You will see a large Siemens building on your right. Keep going straight and you will see a McDonalds and KFC on your left. Make a "U" turn and get out of the taxi in the complex where the McD and KFC are located. There are actually 2 KTVs in this complex. The one I have been to is the 2nd one, past the KFC. Basically it goes McD, KFC, KTV1, Chinese Medicine store, KTV2.
Hope this helps
Sammy
Just a quickie as I dont get online as much these days. Hit the Chun Xiu Lu sauna again on the weekend. Went in about 5.30am after Maggies. All very much the same as usual only I managed to stay awake and actually get my moneys worth from the girl. Certainly the most GFE one Ive had from what is now 4 times of asking. The VIP room was occupied so we had to take seperate rooms. Total damage, 2300rmb ( 2 x girls, top tariff + obvious extra charges).
Sammy, from your description, I figure the KTV you are talking about is actually the only KTV Ive been to in Beijing. That was about a year ago. From what I can remember, the girls were 300rmb tip each but noone participated in take out. They did do all the usual naked games and dancing though and was actually quite fun. Just not my scene.
Sid
PS, anyone noticed the two young russian girls working the den recently. Massive tits!!! However yet to try!
[QUOTE=Arctic1]I joined this for a time last year, but never had a chance to try it. There are too many more attractive, less expensive options. This site uses English, so the target audience is the well-heeled foreigner, us. Using this site will cost a premium, although the girls are probably legit. Many of the pictures are the same as [url]http://www.banwan.com[/url] or [url]http://www.travelion.com[/url] .[/QUOTE]
Arctic1: can you explain what these web sites are? I was fooling around on travelion.com an noticed that one could obtain photos of pretty women and their email addresses. Some of the sites had enough Enlish characters so I saw they charged money. Occasionally, there was a sentence or two in English such as, "I am currently working as an interpreter and part-time tour companion in shanghai."
Is this the Chinese way of saying that she will shack up wih me for a few days and show me around Shanghai? Or does that remain to be determined (in my last experience in China, my guide never said anything abour sex. However, she sold her services to me by pointing out in her emails that she was very nice to look at and wanted to make new friends).
In short, what type of site am I looking at?
[QUOTE=Forest]Arctic1: can you explain what these web sites are? I was fooling around on travelion.com an noticed that one could obtain photos of pretty women and their email addresses. Some of the sites had enough Enlish characters so I saw they charged money. Occasionally, there was a sentence or two in English such as, "I am currently working as an interpreter and part-time tour companion in shanghai."
Is this the Chinese way of saying that she will shack up wih me for a few days and show me around Shanghai? Or does that remain to be determined (in my last experience in China, my guide never said anything abour sex. However, she sold her services to me by pointing out in her emails that she was very nice to look at and wanted to make new friends).
In short, what type of site am I looking at?[/QUOTE]
I don't think there's any mystery. These sites provide contact information for travel guides and companions, male and female. (Well, I take that back. I don't remember seeing any males on banwan.com.) Normally I concentrate on the females (that's a joke). Of these, I estimate about 75 per cent provide p4p. If a girl offers herself as a travel companion without explicitly stating no sex, then I have no qualms about asking whether special service is available. They all understand the meaning of this term. Their ad language may vary. If I am interested in a girl in Hangzhou, then I just say upfront that I need 特朱服务。
[QUOTE=S Ron Mi]I will travel to Beijing in a few months.
Can anyone tell me anything about the following escort service?
[url]http://www.escortschina.com/[/url]
Is it worth the fee to join?
Alternatively, can anyone recommend any other Bejing escort service?[/QUOTE] This site is a rip-off. Looked good, so I joined. Most of the girls are fake. I emailed many many girls, and only got a few responses. Many have an email with chinaescorts as the end name. Never get a response from them.
I sms'd several, when I was in China. And I think got 2 or 3 hits. One wanted $150. One was 600RMB, but when I asked if it was her picture on the site, she said no. I asked her to email me a picture, and she never replied.
I got sms replies from a few in Chinese. I asked my local bartender friend, what it said. And he said something like. "I do not know why you are asking me such a thing! "
Maybe there are a few legit girls on the site, but I have not found a good one yet.
Don't waste your money.
[QUOTE=Nynyny]Does anyone have good mid-range KTV's that are suitable for entertaining western guests and also offer take-out? I consider Mid-Range costs around 2-4-8. KTV's with bar area to view girls also seem to be rare in the Mid-Range KTV's.[/QUOTE]
There are very few reasonably priced KTV which can cater for English speakers - the only one i can think of is in the same building as the Mariott - its Singapore style with a public area as well as rooms. Go to the mariott and ask for the KTV. Make sure you confirm the girls are take-out.
Marriott Beijing West
98 XiSanhuan Beilu
Beijing, 100037
China
[QUOTE=Sammy_T]I am not sure what additional details you might need. The KTV scene can be a lot of fun but in my opinion it is better suited for a large group. Think of it more like a strip club environment back in the USA. Sure, you can go by yourself, but it is more fun when you go with a bunch of your friends.
The major downside is you really need to speak some Mandarin, or have a local friend who does, to truly take advantage of just about any KTV in China, including Beijing. Sure, you can get by at Passion's just speaking English, but that place can set you back thousands of US$, literally.
The KTV near the Lido on which I reported is reasonably priced, and it is possible to take girls out. Not every girl is available for take out, and none of the girls speak much English beyond very basic conversation "hello, where are you from, how old are you"
Tips for the girls runs 300 RMB for the whole night (paid at the end). For this the girls will let you touch them all over, and they will get naked and dance for you if you want too. When you are ready to go you will need to negotiate with the individual girl as to how much. A friend had no problem taking his girl out for only 400 RMB, but my girl would not go home with me regardless of the money I offered.
Location (you should take a taxi as it is a little beyond walking distance) - go out the main Lido gate and turn left. Go under the airport express way and through the first and second light. You will see a large Siemens building on your right. Keep going straight and you will see a McDonalds and KFC on your left. Make a "U" turn and get out of the taxi in the complex where the McD and KFC are located. There are actually 2 KTVs in this complex. The one I have been to is the 2nd one, past the KFC. Basically it goes McD, KFC, KTV1, Chinese Medicine store, KTV2.
Hope this helps
Sammy[/QUOTE]That's a lot of additional details. Thanks for the advice and description of the tipping at the KTV. When you said a left out of the main gate, is that the Holiday Inn Lido or the Lido office building?
[QUOTE=Nynyny] When you said a left out of the main gate, is that the Holiday Inn Lido or the Lido office building?[/QUOTE]
Go out the main hotel lobby gate.
[QUOTE=Nynyny]Does anyone have good mid-range KTV's that are suitable for entertaining western guests and also offer take-out? [/QUOTE]I just went out with some friends last night to a KTV place recommended to me on the third ring road. If you purchase a bottle of whisky (the ubiquitous Chivas) for an inflated ~1500 RMB you get the room for as long as you want, plus all the fruit/beer/green tea you can take. Girls are 300 RMB each for the duration, plus some random tips for mamasan, waiter, anyone else that wanders into the room when they see laowai, etc. There was an additional fee for taking the girls out later - can't remember exact amount. All said and done, for three of us for three or four hours it was around 3000 RMB. Not exactly cheap, but not extortionate by Beijing standards either.
As previously mentioned, it really does help to speak a bit of Mandarin - at least so you can enjoy yourself more with the girls, but the folks there know what you are wanting so don't stress it. I told the mamasan beforehand we wanted girls who would do takeaway - don't know if they all do or not. Certainly the girls were flashing their tits, allowed all manner of groping, and I'm sure would oblige with a little more in-room fun if they liked you (though no sex). They had a reasonably good selection of Western songs as well, so it should work for entertaining your Western guests.
As an aside - it's a shame that the foreign music industry has leaned on the government to make the KTV places pay to license music, as the last few KTV places I've been to in China have had absolutely atrocious backing music for the songs - in the past I recall proper original backing music. So the KTV places have gone legit in one aspect, but are still effectively brothels - go figure.
The place is on the third floor of a hotel (forget the name of the hotel) on the Third Ring Road about 4 kilometers South from Jianwai SOHO. Tell your taxi driver to take you to Jing Rui Da Xia on South Third Ring Road ("dong san huan nan lu") - apparently every taxi driver in Beijing knows Jing Rui Da Xia. Just in case you get one that is so flustered by seeing a foreigner that he forgets how to understand spoken Chinese, the Chinese characters for the building are 竟瑞大厦 and the address is 17 Dongsanhuan Lu. The phone number is 6766 8866
Enjoy
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[QUOTE=Yelper] Just in case you get one that is so flustered by seeing a foreigner that he forgets how to understand spoken Chinese, the Chinese characters for the building are 竟瑞大厦 and the address is 17 Dongsanhuan Lu. The phone number is 6766 8866[/QUOTE]
Very good first time post! Especially liked this bit!
Keep it up
Sid
I am a new user to this guide, so please bear with me as I post my first report. This evening, I made my first trip to the Chunxiu Sauna, armed with the previous information posted in this forum. The directions that other users posted made it easy to find, bright lights and all. Please bear in mind that this report is from someone who is new to this kind of activity, and is usually quick to agree to things, so others who are more experienced will pay less (I'm sure). My Chinese skills also aren't that good.
Upon entering, there is a cashier's station on the left, where you are immediately given a key & number to wear on your wrist. This is how they keep track of your charges. A sauna attendant (who spoke some English) accompanies you into the changing room on the first floor. Here, you get naked before heading to the shower and/or sauna. I didn't see any foreigners.- this was a Thursday evening around 9: 30. Only Chinese. After locking up my clothes, I went to the showers and cleaned up. After showering, or using the tubs or sauna if you wish, you're offered a toothbrush and razor.
After this, it's pretty clear to the attendants what you are there for. I was asked if I wanted "massage" and "make love" in English. One of the towel attendants asked if I needed a condom and handed one to me, though I don't know why this is necessary since all the girls have them. Maybe he just wanted a tip? I was also presented with the "special pajamas" cabinet, where I could buy some expensive PJs, as mentioned in other reports. I kept telling them (in Chinese) that I didn't want to buy clothes, but in my agreeable nature, I finally relented to some 120 RMB pajamas. I don't think these are needed, but hey, they look nice.
Now dressed in my new fancy clothes, I was sent to the fourth floor, past the restaurant on the 2nd floor and the resting room (I think) on the third floor. An usher brought me into a pleasant room, decorated like a standard hotel room with a double bed, and saw some girls along the way. I don't know if it was a VIP room or not.- probably not.- and think it was just a regular one. Overall, I thought the room was clean.
The usher gave me the international motion for sex, and I asked for a menu (in Chinese), which he brought. It was in Japanese and English, and based on the previous reports, I asked for the 504 RMB service, which includes massage & FS. (I don't remember exactly what it said on the menu.) I also saw the 800 RMB service listed on there, but don't recall what the differences were on the menu.
Shortly thereafter, three girls were brought into the room. All pretty, I thought, but #830 was the cutest, and I chose her. Again, this was about 9: 45 p. M. , so I don't know how busy it was and whether it is usual to get such a decent selection. After a few minutes, she came back, put a sheet down on the bed, and helped me take my clothes off. She had me lie face down, and then took her clothes off, and started with the massage. Best of all, she had a tub of hot water, which felt good. Much attention to the lower back and ass.
Pretty soon, she asked me to flip over, and then talked me into the 800 RMB service. Honest, I'm not sure of exactly what "extras" I was getting, since my Chinese isn't too good. But, this is my weakness. I'll agree to things like this, although I know it will cost more. Oh well. Pretty soon, she was giving a BBBJ, lots of smiles, very good provider. Then, proceeded into FS, and alternated with BJ until the inevitable occurred. After this, she gave me a nice massage, and we had a small chat. I'm sure we could have gone a second time, but I was ready to head home. My decision.
Overall, I thought it was a good experience. The facilities were good, I thought the girl was pretty & enthusiastic. Some other commments indicated that the girls seem mechanical, but at least #830 gave a good level of service. Next time, I might just stick with the 504 RMB service. Everyone I asked said a lot of foreigners go there. It helps to know some Chinese, but I think it can be done without knowing the language well. Oh yes, and the total damange? 1, 016 RMB. I already know that's high so I don't need it pointed out to me, but I bought the PJs and opted for the 800 RMB service. Next time, it shouldn't be so much.
I hope some of you find this report useful.
This hotel is called the King Wing Hot Springs Hotel. As you are driving south on the 3rd ring road you will see a cloud on the top of the hotel on the right side of the stree.
There is also a good sauna just one long block south of it.
I have been here before but always found the KTV to be too expensive.
Harihara[QUOTE=Yelper]I just went out with some friends last night to a KTV place recommended to me on the third ring road. If you purchase a bottle of whisky (the ubiquitous Chivas) for an inflated ~1500 RMB you get the room for as long as you want, plus all the fruit/beer/green tea you can take. Girls are 300 RMB each for the duration, plus some random tips for mamasan, waiter, anyone else that wanders into the room when they see laowai, etc. There was an additional fee for taking the girls out later - can't remember exact amount. All said and done, for three of us for three or four hours it was around 3000 RMB. Not exactly cheap, but not extortionate by Beijing standards either.
As previously mentioned, it really does help to speak a bit of Mandarin - at least so you can enjoy yourself more with the girls, but the folks there know what you are wanting so don't stress it. I told the mamasan beforehand we wanted girls who would do takeaway - don't know if they all do or not. Certainly the girls were flashing their tits, allowed all manner of groping, and I'm sure would oblige with a little more in-room fun if they liked you (though no sex). They had a reasonably good selection of Western songs as well, so it should work for entertaining your Western guests.
As an aside - it's a shame that the foreign music industry has leaned on the government to make the KTV places pay to license music, as the last few KTV places I've been to in China have had absolutely atrocious backing music for the songs - in the past I recall proper original backing music. So the KTV places have gone legit in one aspect, but are still effectively brothels - go figure.
The place is on the third floor of a hotel (forget the name of the hotel) on the Third Ring Road about 4 kilometers South from Jianwai SOHO. Tell your taxi driver to take you to Jing Rui Da Xia on South Third Ring Road ("dong san huan nan lu") - apparently every taxi driver in Beijing knows Jing Rui Da Xia. Just in case you get one that is so flustered by seeing a foreigner that he forgets how to understand spoken Chinese, the Chinese characters for the building are 竟瑞大厦 and the address is 17 Dongsanhuan Lu. The phone number is 6766 8866
Enjoy
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I have a trip to PEK coming up in a couple months. Last time I was there was a couple years ago and I did all my pulling from HJ Bean. Reading through several weeks posts on this site, I haven't seen it mentioned once. Has it dried up? Changed names?
attached is a google earth placemark for the KTV I have recently described...
[u][b]Sammy_T's Beginners Guide to Beijing[/b][/u]
[u][b]General Introduction[/b][/u]
Beijing has a large variety of girls available, both domestic girls from all over China, to international working girls from Russia and Mongolia, making it a good town for mongering. The only down side is that the prices are generally higher in Beijing then other Chinese cities for similar services.
Prostitution is illegal in China, but it is generally tolerated. A few times a year the government will try to clean up the town. This cleanup occurs when the Peoples Congress is in session, as well as right before the October National holiday. If one of the bars gets raided (which is rare) the cops will come in and ask to see everyone’s passports. I have never heard of a foreigner being detained, but I guess it could happen.
Beijing is one of the safest cities in the world. Crime is low, and considering the population the odds of getting in a physical altercation are almost zero. Regardless, if you are stupid you can fall victim to any number of petty crimes or scams. Common scams include a pretty girl coming up to you on the street, flirting with you, and then suggesting you go to some local restaurant or tea house. She orders the tea, but when the bill comes it is much higher then you would ever expect. A similar scam is for “art students” to invite you back to their gallery to view their air. They will then hit you up to buy their art at very inflated prices. Mostly harmless, but it is still something to be avoided. More dangerous scams do exist, but typically involve someone convincing you to follow him/her to a nearby bar/ktv to see beautiful girls. Once you get to the room a couple of things can happen. You might have a nice KTV experience, but at the end presented with an outrageous bill. When you refuse to pay some large men will come in and threaten you until you agree to pay, or turn over all the money in your wallet. In another twist the girl will get very friendly with you, and while you are in the throws of passion some large bouncer looking guys will bust in and claim that you have broken the law and if you do not pay them off they will call the cops. The best way to avoid such scams is to [b][red]NEVER go with someone claiming they will take you to the best bar/ktv or a lot of “beautiful girls”. [/red][/b] If they have girls, ask them to bring the girl to you.
During certain times of the year girls are harder to come by then other times. Times of the year to avoid include the Chinese New Year (locally called the Spring Festival), the first week in May (international Labor holiday), and the first week in October (China National Holiday). There is also a crack down whenever the Chinese People’s Congress is in session.
I do not claim to know everything about mongering in Beijing, but I believe this document covers the basics. Feel free to send me a PM with corrections or additional information, and if you cannot PM just post it on the board as an FAQ addendum.
[b]Code Phrase[/b]
If you are in one of the common mongering spots mentioned in this document you can use the following “code phrase” to try and identify other members who read this board. Simply say to the guy sitting next to you at the bar [b]“Sure are a lot of girls in here.”[/b] If the place is currently empty then it can be said in a sarcastic tone. If you hear this phrase you can reply [b]“Yea, I read about it on the internet”.[/b] Vola! You now have a buddy with whom you can compare notes.
[b]How to use this forum[/b]
The goal of this forum is to share information. Senior members generally feel that someone who only posts questions without contributing information is not worth helping. It is strongly recommended that you [red]read this document from start to finish before posting a question.[/red] At the same time you may want to post any limited information you might have. For example, you once stayed at XYZ hotel, and saw what looked to be working girls in the hotel lobby. You could even post that you saw absolutely zero working girls at the hotel. If you have posted information in this or other forums on this board you will typically you will be well received.
[b][size=2]Beginners Pub Crawl[/size][/b]
The most basic itinerary is to start at the Pig and Thistle in the Holiday Inn Lido. The Pig opens at 5 pm and is a great place to meet your friends for a beer after work. From 5 pm until 8 pm is "happy hour" which will get you 2 for 1 drinks. Chinese girls start to show up early (around 7:30 pm), Mongolian and Russian girls later (around 9:30 pm). As this is a major 4 star hotel everyone will speak English, and they will accept credit cards. There is an ATM machine in the hotel, as well as many restaurants. At about 11 pm you can move from “The Pig” to the Hard Rock Café (HRC). A taxi ride should cost you around 15 RMB. You can always ask one of the girls in the Pig to go with you, and then dump her later if you find someone better. They will all know how to get there, and be happy to get into the Hard Rock as they typically cannot get in alone without paying off the bouncers. The Hard Rock will cost you 100 RMB cover charge, but they will have a live band and you will get 1 drink for “free”. You can go earlier, but the girls do not start to show up until after 11 pm. At 1 am the band is finished for the night and everyone heads to Maggie's. Taxi’s will be queued up outside The Hard Rock and you can simply tell the driver “Maggie’s” and they will know where to go. It is that simple. If you are not a late night person I suggest you still make this trek one night early in your visit. You can then collect mobile phone numbers from various girls you encounter during the evening, and then give them a call to meet you later during your stay.
[b]The Girls[/b]
Every week there are new girls coming to Beijing. At the same time, I have known many girls that have worked in Beijing for years. It is often difficult to discuss specific girls because many of them go by the same name, but once you become a regular you will start to realize which girls are regulars too. China will grant the Mongolians a 90 "tourist" visa, so most of the girls have apartments and spend 3 months in Beijing, then go home for a week or 2 to get a new visa. Since they have apartments it is possible to go back to their place if you do not want to bring them back to your hotel, but you should confirm this first because they all have several room mates. Often when you go back with a girl to her apartment (Chinese or Mongolian) they will offer for their room mate to "join in". This of course will cost you more money. While tempting, in my experience the 3-some in China is typically you have sex with one girl, then the other, rather than the orgy the movies make it out to be.
The girls all talk to each other, so if you screw one over the rest of them will quickly find out and either avoid you, or ask for a premium, up front payment before going with you.
[b]Mongolian Vs. Chinese Vs. Russian[/b]
The old joke is "what do you call a Chinese girl with tits and ass? Mongolian!" Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. There are some girls in the bar that I would not look twice at, but they still manage to find business. In my opinion the Chinese have a more classic beauty, but the Mongolian's have nicer bodies. I have found the Mongolian's to be more passionate. They are more likely to drink with you and have a good time in the bar before going home with you. Once you get them home they truly seem to enjoy their work. The Chinese girls in Beijing tend to be true "professionals" or inexperienced girls straight from the countryside. The Russian's attitude seems to be a cross between the two - they will drink with you in the bar to a certain extent, but they will quickly ask if you want to go with them. If you say no they will move on to the next guy. There are always exceptions, so your mileage may vary.
You can find Chinese girls on the street that are working for "mamasans", but most of the girls I encounter in the bars are all independent providers. I have not encountered a Mongolian girl yet that is working with/for a pimp, but it seems all of the Russian girls are. I suspect this has something to do with their travel expenses - the pimp up-fronts the travel money and expects to make a profit.
[b]Taking Girls back to your room[/b]
It is against the law to have a visitor in your hotel room after 11 pm. Many hotels will stop you if you try to take a guest to your room starting around 10:30. The girls will know the situation better then we do - If you pickup a girl in the hotel's bar then she probably will have a way to get upstairs. If you are taking her back to your hotel simply ask her if it will be a problem. If you see security guards posted at the elevators then they will probably stop you. You wont get in any trouble, but they will not let the girl up. If you are bringing back a Russian or Mongolian girl to your hotel then you can officially register her as a "guest" at the hotel front desk. All this means is that the hotel will make a copy of her passport. The girl must have a valid visa in order for this to work, so you may want to ask her if she has her passport before you head back to the hotel. Keep in mind that when she registers at the front desk then her name may appear on your bill when you check out. If this will be a problem you can always ask them to reprint it, removing the girls name. On the plus side if the hotel has the girls passport information there is no way she will try to rip you off.
[b]Cost[/b]
Many factors impact the price - short time vs. all night, age and experience of the girl, time in the evening (early/late), venue (Pig, Hard Rock, Maggie's), and so on. I am a firm believer in the idea that you get what you pay for. I want a good experience, so I am willing to pay a little more. I believe the price schedule I use is fair to both parties.
Chinese Farm Girl from off the street who speaks no English. One shot - 300 RMB
Chinese Girl from a bar who speaks English - 600 RMB (all night is rare because they have a home to go to)
Young Mongolian Girl early evening, one shot: 800 RMB. Early evening all night: 1,200 RMB. Late night one shot: 600 RMB, late night all night: 1,000 RMB
Older Mongolian girl 600 RMB
Russian girl: anywhere from 600 RMB - 1,000 RMB depending on how busy they are.
[u][b]Barbershops (BBS)[/b][/u]
There are many barber shop/hair salons all over Beijing. Some of these shops are legitimate places to get your hair cut, while others offer massage and "extras". The best way to tell the difference is to look inside. If you see several young girls dressed in short skirts then they probably offer extras. At some of the places the girls are standing in the doorway of the shop trying to get customers to come in. They all have some type of back room where the massage will be performed. Conditions vary widely from shop to shop - some have a nice back room with a small table or bed and a locking door, others just have an area partitioned off with a Curtin.
I have personally investigated the BBSs near the Lido hotel. They all are very aggressive and promised a massage, but they wanted to be paid 300 RMB up front. This will get you a so-so massage and a hand job. Once you are in the room a 2nd and 3rd girl will come in asking if you want them to join in. They will each want additional money. I know a (naive) western friend who went looking for a hair cut, and was talked into a massage for 300 RMB. After the girl had got him "excited" she told him she would give him a hand job for $100 US. This is way out of line price wise. Service will vary from shop to shop, or even from girl to girl. It has always been my impression that to take full advantage of the BBS scene you need to be able to speak good mandarin.
An alternative to the BBS is the Cigar Bar down the street from the Lido called “Café del Mar”. In the basement they have several small rooms where they offer massage. Friends have told me that for 600 RMB you can get full sex. I have also been told that the massage girls are available for take out. On the first floor are some girls that will sit in drink with you (similar to the Chinese girls at Maggie's), but only a few of them will offer massage. There are also different girls that are completely dedicated to massage, so before you spend a lot of time/money chatting up a girl find out if she will go the extra mile with you.
[u][b]Saunas[/b][/u]
Sometimes when you are stuck in the middle of nowhere the only bright spot might be your hotel's "sauna". Most of the Chinese hotels will have some type of massage or sauna place down in the basement, and almost all of these places will perform extra services. These services will range from a hand job to full sex, depending on the place and the girl. Your biggest hurdle will be to convince them to service a westerner, so this is the time when you will need the help of your Chinese business partner. Ask him to arraign your first visit, and you can then go down whenever you want after that and negotiate on your own. There are several saunas in Beijing and this can be a nice alternative if you cannot bring a girl back to your hotel.
The way a sauna works is as follows – you walk in and are greeted by someone at a check-in counter. They will take your shoes from you and give you a pair of slippers. I guess this is there way to ensure you don’t walk the bill – you would have to do so leaving your shoes behind! They will give you some type of tag with a number on it. This is your locker number, and also the way they track your bill. You then go to a locker/changing room and take off all of your clothes and lock them up. You will then be shown into a room with showers, large pools of different water temperatures, and a traditional sauna room. You first take a shower and are free to use the pools and sauna. Sometimes you will see guys sitting around naked playing Chinese chess. They may also have a body scrub room where a guy will scrub all over you to defoliate your skin. When you are finished you go get a towel and dry off and go back into the locker room. They will have some pajamas you can wear for free. They may try to up-sell you and talk you into purchasing some of their special pajamas, but this is not required.. You will then typically go upstairs and be escorted to a hotel like room. There are different sizes of rooms, for different prices. They may take you to a small one first, or a big one. You can always ask to see other sizes of rooms. Next you will be shown a menu of services. Sometimes they have English, sometimes they don’t. If they don’t then you need to get it across to the person who is showing you to the room what you want as some girls will do the extra services, and some will not. You can get a standard massage which will almost always end with a hand job. Some saunas offer “cat baths” where the girl licks all over your body, “fire and Ice” where she will give you a blow-job first with warm tea in her mouth, and then with cold water. If full sex is not on the menu, but the girl will do it, she will typically charge you for 2 standard massages. Once your massage is finished you can go back down to the sauna area and shower before getting dressed.
You generally pay a fee just to use the sauna’s facilities, another hourly fee for the room, and a fee for the massage. Depending on what type of massage you choose the total package should run from 500 RMB to 1000 RMB.
For specific sauna locations please search the forum as it is easier to follow directions to the sauna rather than find it by address.
[b][u]Bars[/u][/b]
[b]Pig and Thistle (Holiday Inn Lido)[/b]
Pig and Thistle in the Holiday Inn Lido Hotel
Jiang Tai Rd., Chaoyang District
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[url]http://www.beijing-lido.holiday-inn.com/[/url]
Located outside off the 4th ring road, north east of the city along the way to the airport. Tell the taxi driver "Li Du Fan Dian" and he will know where to take you. For those historians on the board the Pig and Thistle was once called the Pig and Whistle, but they were forced to change their name a few years ago because there is some other bar in China with the name Pig and Thistle that has registered it as a trademark in China. It is easiest to simply refer to it as "The Pig". The Pig has a decent 2 for 1 "happy hour" from 5 to 8. You pay hotel bar prices for your drinks, but when they are 2 for 1 it is not so bad. Some Chinese working girls will start to show up as early as 6, and the Mongolian and Russian girls are usually in force by 10. If the Chinese girls are not in the Pig they can often be found sitting at either the Starbuck's or Baskin Robins in the Lido complex around the corner. All of the Chinese girls at the Pig are "regulars", there night after night. They are all very friendly and will be more than happy to act as a tour guide for you during the day. I have arraigned this for friends on several occasions and they have always been pleased. The Pig closes at 2 am, and last call is 1 am. Typically the girls will gauge the crowd and start to leave for either the Hard Rock or Maggie's around midnight. If you don't know what you are doing, just sit down at the bar and strike up a conversation with another guy. There is an ATM in the Lido complex that accepts international debit and credit cards. Since The Pig is located in a major international hotel chain it will accept credit cards for payment.
The Pig is an oasis in the middle of hostile territory. The Lido is still a haven for much of the expat population in Beijing, so there is always a chance you will run into the wife of one of your expat partners. If it is early simply tell the girl to follow you at a safe distance, and to keep walking should you stop to chat with someone. There are currently a couple hundred American construction workers in town building the new American Embassy. They work 6 days a week, and are off on Sunday. It is best to avoid the Pig on Saturday night as the male to female ratio shifts the supply and demand curve to demand.
[b]Hollywood[/b]
Located in the Russian district just south of the Ritan Hotel (Re Tan Fan Dian), Hollywood is within walking distance of Maggie’s. It is styled like a bad rip off of a Planet Hollywood restaurant. There is a 40 RMB cover charge to enter, and this gets you your first drink. Hollywood has the highest population of Russian girls in Beijing, as well as some Mongolian girls. Unlike The Pig, Hard Rock, and Maggie's, the girls are all sitting at tables waiting for the guys to approach them. Be sure and watch the bartenders - they have a tendacy to keep the change from large bills unless to push them to give it to you.
[b]Treasure Island[/b]
Located in the Russian district just north of the Ritan Hotel, Treasure Island is more a restaurant than it is a bar. When you go in you will be shown to a table, and a live band will be playing contemporary Russian music. It will be full of Russian working girls, but no one typically shows up until after midnight.
[b]Hard Rock Cafe[/b]
8 Dongsanhuan Beilu,Landmark Hotel, Chaoyang District
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[url]http://www.hardrock.com/locations/c...es.aspx?Lc=BEIJ[/url]
Located right next to the Great Wall Sheraton Hotel. You standard Hard Rock Café you will find in many big cities around the world, except working girls start to show up around 11:00 pm. You have to pay a 100RMB cover charge to get in every night except Wednesday. The cover includes your first drink. They usually have a Pilipino band playing that is not too bad. To get a good view hang around the stair case behind the bar. I would venture to say that 99% of the single girls there are working, and they can all speak some English. The Hard Rock is a tourist trap, so there are some non-working girls, but it is easy to distinguish the pros from the straight girls. You will find Chinese, Mongolian, and some Russian girls at the Hard Rock. Talk, flirt, enjoy the view and the music. If you find a girl you like she will be happy to go with you. The girls have to pay a cover to get in every night, plus they must pay security monthly or they will be turned away at the door, so expect to pay a slight premium ( 800RMB) for them to go with you. If you want to make a friend, offer to take one of the girls from the Pig and Thistle to the Hard Rock with you. If they go with a foreigner then they do not have to pay the bouncers extra to get in. Once at the Hard Rock you can ditch her if you like, she will just be happy to be in the prime hunting grounds. Around midnight people will start leaving for Maggie’s.
In the past I have suggested Wednesday night be deemed "beginners" night at the Hard Rock. There is not cover charge on Wednesday, and they play retro music. If you are new in town and looking for advice hang out on the staircase behind the bar. If you are an old hand and see some guy hanging out on the stairs by himself say hello and offer to show him the ropes.
[b]Passion's [/b]
Passion’s in the Great Wall Sheraton has reopened, and seems to be back to it’s regular form as a high-end bar/ktv. You will find some of the most beautiful Chinese working girls at Passions. You will need to pay 100 RMB cover to get in, and the girls will expect a 300 RMB tip just to take to you. If you want to take one home it can run you 2000 RMB. Spending time in the KTV can cost you $1000US, so make sure you know what you are getting yourself into.
[b]The Den[/b]
4 Gongti Donglu, Chaoyang District
(next to City Hotel's main entrance)
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6592 6290
The Den is a restaurant and bar downstairs with a bar and dance floor upstairs. The food is good, and it is a nice pickup spot. There is a good mix of Chinese, Russian and Mongolian girls on any given night. There has been some talk about the bouncers at The Den getting a little carried away with people who get drunk and stupid, so if you fall into that category I would suggest you avoid The Den.
[b]Bar One (formally Maggie's Club)[/b]
Dongfanglu, Dongsanhuan Beilu, Chaoyang District
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[url]http://www.barone.com.cn/[/url]
Located down the street from the Hilton hotel. Nice bar with lots of girls, but almost all of them work for the bar and are there to drink and talk with you, but not go home. If you sit and chat with them for a while they will expect you to buy them dirnks, and tip them at the end of the evening.
[b]Maggie's[/b]
Ritan Park South Gate, Chaoyang District
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8562 8142/8143
Sun-Wed, 7.30pm-4.30am; Thu-Sat, 7.30-5am
[url]http://www.maggiesbar.com[/url]
Probably the best know bar for our hobby in Beijing. The new location is at the South gate entrance to Ritan Park. Go to their website for a map, but most late night taxi drivers should know "maggies". There is no cover charge, but they sometimes give non-Anglos a hard time at the door saying membership is required. You may have better luck on a non-weekend night, and then once you establish yourself as a regular I don't think they will stop you. At Maggie's you will find Chinese, Russian, and Mongolian girls. Almost all of the Chinese girls in Maggie's work for the bar - their job is to sell you drinks, and get you to buy them drinks. They will also sometime ask you for a tip at the end of the evening. While it is possible to hook up with a girl who works for Maggie's, I have found it is rare. Maggie's stays open until everyone goes home. There have been times when I have walked in, found a girl, and left quickly, and other times I have not left until the sun came up. The main attraction of Maggie's is the Mongolian girls, and they will all end up at Maggie's around 1 am if they are not already taken. For those familiar with the scene in HongKong Maggie's has been described as similar to Fenwick or Neptunes in Wanchai.
[b]Cafe del Mar[/b]
Within walking distance from the Lido hotel. You can get a draft beer for 10RMB, and they have bar girls that will sit and drink with you. In the basement they have massage rooms, where it is possible to get extra services. The girls upstairs may make you promises, but when it comes to taking them down stirs they will all differ you to one of their “friends” who specialize in massages. On Wednesday they do a "poll dance" at 10 pm that is rare in Beijing
[b][u]Hotels[/u][/b]
[b]Kempinski Hotel[/b]
German owned 5 star hotel. Girl friendly and working girls can sometimes be found in the hotel lobby.
[b]Crown Plaza WuZhou[/b]
Part of the Holiday Inn chain. The WuZhou is located in the Olympic Games area, not to be confused with the other Crown Plaza located downtown. It is a very nice 5 star hotel that is girl friendly. In the evenings guys can often be found out front of the hotel offering girls. Remember: never go with one of these guys, but instead as them to bring the girls to you.
[b]Crown Plaza Downtown[/b]
Nice 5 star hotel located down town on Wangfujing. Girl friendly.
[b]Holiday Inn Lido[/b]
Semi-girl friendly, the Holiday Inn Lido is an older 4 star hotel in the north east part of the city. Security will often stop you if you try to take a girl to your room after 11 pm. The Lido is mainly known for The Pig and Thistle bar, which is the starting point for many working girls each evening.
[b]Great Wall Sheraton[/b]
5 star hotel located on the 3rd ring road. Not very girl friendly, but does have Passion’s located on the 1st floor.
[b]Wangfujing Hotel[/b]
5 star girl friendly hotel that has a sauna as well as in room massage available.
[b]Grand Hyatt Beijing[/b]
One of the nicest 5 star hotels in Beijing located in the heart of the city in the Oriental Plaza complex. Girl friendly with a in house sauna and massage available. Girls also often hang out in the hotel lobby looking for business.
[b]China World Hotel[/b]
1 Jianguomenwai Dajie, Dongcheng District
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6505 2266
Girl friendly 5 star hotel located inside the 3rd ring. Girls can be found in the hotel lobby, as well as the Starbucks around the corner.
[b]Mariott Beijing West[/b]
98 Xisanhuan Beilu
Hang Tian Bridge
Girl Friendly 5 star hotel with good KTV in basement that caters to westerners.
[b]Landmark Hotel[/b]
Across the street from the Great Wall Sheraton, and around the corner from the Hard Rock. Girl friendly with KTV in basement.
[b][u]KTVs[/u][/b]
A KTV is the Chinese version of Karaoke. They are 2 types of KTVs, ones that have girls and ones that do not. A “straight” KTV is a place where friends can gather together and sing songs, et cetera, just like you see in the movies. The other type is where guys go to grope all over girls. Think of it as the Chinese version of a strip/gentleman’s club. You would never really go to a KTV alone, but some do have a common bar area where you can get a drink and talk to some of the girls. When you arrive at the KTV you will first be shown to a large room with sofa, a large table, and audio visual equipment. There are 2 major costs associated with KTV'ing - The room, and the girls. You will first be quoted a price for "the room". This price is based upon the size of the room, but think of it as a minimum purchase - if they say it will cost 1000RMB, that means you will need to purchase at least 1000RMB worth of food/snacks and drinks. This does not include the tips for "the girls". Once you get settled the Mamasan will bring in a lineup of girls for you to choose from. If you do not find anyone you like there will probably be another group for you to choose from. I always ask the group if any of the girls speak English. Finding an English speaking girl at a KTV is rare even in Beijing (and non-existent out side of Beijing).
[b]A KTV Tip:[/b]
Once you find a girl who speaks English it is wise to get her mobile number, that way, if you plan to go to the KTV in the future you can give her a call and she will wait for you instead of joining the line-up for other guys. I have noticed that most of my Chinese friends all have "regular" girls they call before we arrive at the KTV bar so their girl will be waiting for them. Once you have picked your girl she will wait on you, pour your drink, toast you, offer you food, ect. If you get stuck with a non-English speaker that ask to play the dice game. You can usually do this without her having to know any English, and it allows you and her to drink and flirt together. I have been told that these girls expect you to do just about anything but penetrate them, so feel free to let your hands roam. The girl will typically respond to your cue - if you are bold, she will be bold, if you are shy, she will be shy.
The last few times I have been in a KTV we have played "sex games". These are actually more innocent then they sound, the kind of games you would play at parties when you were in High School, but they are still kind of fun. For example, one of the guys would be blind folded and get to feel up each of the girls and try to guess which tits belong to which girl. Or the opposite, a girl is blind folded and grabs the crotch of each guy. Most of these little games involve the girl getting naked in one capacity or another, so it can be kind of fun. Recently I have also been exposed to "sex shows" where the normal KTV girls leave the room, and another girl comes in and does a Bangkok style sex show. To be honest, I can do without that, but if that is your thing it is now available in Beijing. My last visit when we played the dice game each time I would loose I had to drink, but each time the girl lost she took off an article of clothing. As I have played dice a few times in the past we soon had the cloths off all of the girls.
When it is time to go you will be brought your room bill. Have your Chinese buddy review it and make sure you are not getting cheated. If the place takes credit cards you can typically add the tip onto the room fee, and they will write you a receipt that says "meal" or "food" in Chinese. I have been to several KTV places in Beijing, and never tipped anyone but the Girl who sat with me (and the girls of my customers if I am entertaining them), and then a max of only 300RMB. I have been told by my Chinese friends that 100RMB minimum, 200RMB average, and 300RMB if you had a good experience. Maybe I am being too cheep, but the girls never seem to get angry or complain. I will typically buy the Mamasan a drink, but I do not give anything to the waitress. Remember that this tip does not include any take out fee - if you want the girl to go to your room you will need to negotiate this deal separately. I have never been in a KTV were there was not at least some girls that were willing to go with you. You just need to specify that this is what you want with the Mamasan before you pick your girl, and she will steer you in the right direction.
Just like everything else, I think the key to good service it to become a regular customer at some bar/KTV. The first few times you go have your Chinese buddy look over the bill and make sure you were not cheated, but once the Mamasan recognizes that you will come back, and bring other potential customers, then she will never try to cheat you.
For specific KTV locations please search the forum as it is easier to find them by following directions rather than by address.
[u][b]Escorts / Incall[/b][/u]
You can find ads for “massages” in the local English magazine “That’s Beijing”. People who have called these numbers never report a truly positive experience. The only thing you can be sure about is that the girl in the picture will not be the girl that turns up at your door.
[u][b]Street Scene[/b][/u]
Girls can be found in various places around the city. You will also find mamsans who will tell you she has girls available. [red]I cannot stress enough that you never want to follow anyone to see the girls.[/red] Have them bring the girls to you. These girls will be fresh off the farm, in experienced, and speak no English, but they will be cheep.
[b]Special Thanks...[/b]
I hope you all find this information helpful. While I called this Sammy_T’s guide, it is really the product of all the members who regularly post in the Beijing thread. I have spend many nights conducting research with InTransit as we attempt to understand the inner workings of the Mongolian working girl culture. This is as much his guide as it is mine. Please PM or post any additions or changes you would like to see in this document, and I will incorporate them next time.
Happy Hunting!
Sammy_T
[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
[QUOTE=Sonny19]I have a trip to PEK coming up in a couple months. Last time I was there was a couple years ago and I did all my pulling from HJ Bean. Reading through several weeks posts on this site, I haven't seen it mentioned once. Has it dried up? Changed names?[/QUOTE]Henry's Jiu Bar is no more. Transformed into a branch of HSBC about 2 years ago. Such is progress. Think they ran out of customers willing to pay 5 star prices for very average food and service and some of the worst music in Beijing. Certainly used to be a good spot to to pick up a takeaway on a cold winter's evening but I don't think anybody in Beijing has been forced into celibacy by the demise of Henry's. Plenty of better alternatives as have just been set out in some detail this thread.
Mcavity
[QUOTE=Sonny19]I have a trip to PEK coming up in a couple months. Last time I was there was a couple years ago and I did all my pulling from HJ Bean. Reading through several weeks posts on this site, I haven't seen it mentioned once. Has it dried up? Changed names?[/QUOTE}
If you are referring to the one that used to be across from the Star Bucks at China World Hotel, it is long gone and now an HSBC Bank You can get screwed there too by their exorbitant banking charges!
I have updated my Beijing Map Guide - lots of places have closed but until i absolutely confirm this has occurred i have left them in my guide with a closed comment. I have not included temporary mongering spots which have sprung up since the various crack downs which have occurred in the last 4 months - such as mama-sans hanging around the Grand Hyatt entrance after 11pm and wandering around Ritan park - as i suspect once these lady's can go back to their normal business locations they will disappear.
[QUOTE=Gao Xing]Overall, I thought it was a good experience. The facilities were good, I thought the girl was pretty & enthusiastic. Some other commments indicated that the girls seem mechanical, but at least #830 gave a good level of service. Next time, I might just stick with the 504 RMB service. Everyone I asked said a lot of foreigners go there. It helps to know some Chinese, but I think it can be done without knowing the language well. Oh yes, and the total damange? 1, 016 RMB. I already know that's high so I don't need it pointed out to me, but I bought the PJs and opted for the 800 RMB service. Next time, it shouldn't be so much.I hope some of you find this report useful.[/QUOTE] Another very good first post. I just came out of the this place having spent last night there. Another enjoyable performance from the girl although I can barely remember much of it. I have to stop falling asleep in the room after the job. For some reason they only charged me about 500rmb for the upstsairs but the bill came to 1500rmb because of the 168rmb/hour room rate I had. I actually went up to the 5th floor which I've never done before. Just the same.
So to answer your guilty feeling, no you certainly didn't get overcharged in there. They had ran out of expensive PJs this morning so I had to settle for the crappy ones!
Sid
I have found two BBS near Lishilu Metro station . South Gate may have described them in an earlier post but his directions gave a long walk.
To get to the BBS you get off on the south west entrance for Lishilu on the south side of Fuxingmenwei Dajie. Walk west about 100 metres to the next major street Baiyun Ly (south side) and Sanlihelu Donglu ( north) There is a large grocery store, Chang'an market ,on the north east corner. Turn south down Baiyun and go under the overpass foot bridge. Turn left ( east) at the first street after the overpass. The BBS are about 50 metres in There sre three in a row but they are all connected at the back.
There were several girls available and a variety of services depending on your bargaining.The back room had a bed and was relatively clean given it is a BBS but bring your own wipes. No english but I made myself understood using terms found in the chinese word thread. I had a good full time, although a little rushed ,with a cutie from Hubie around 22 for 500rmb.
Sammy T.
Great job on the Guide. I'm an old China hand but out of country for a few years. Looks like not much has changed except for Beans closing up. Surely some of my old chickens are still working the beat.
I'm going to print out your guide for any of my buddies heading to Beijing. You covered it all, I'm impressed.
Xie Xie Peng You.
Already posted it in the Photo section. But as it might be a usefeul advise especially for late night mongering, I'll add it here as well.
Was just on my way home from Gongti Area - almost 4am -, when four guys approached me on Sanlitun asking if I want a girl. Quotation was first 600, later we agreed on 400 (probably 100 too much) as they promised me a really beautiful girl. As you can see [see Photo section] she turned out as a solid 7. So we went to my place. Sex was "mamahuhu" (so so) as she said that my Xiao Di Di was too big for any oral action. Nevertheless she was a really nice girl and after having her number now, I even might do her again.
This is my first report, so please bear with me if I make any mistake.
This was my first time in Beijing and stayed in Kerry Center Hotel. I tried their in-room massage 4 times. The price is pretty high, but I like the convinence part of it. (Don't remember the exact amount: $400/90 mins for body massage) Among the 4 trials, I got a HJ from a mid-aged lady w/o extra fee and she also let me touched her tits. For the other 3 trials, the ladies are young and one of them is Mongolian (nice! ). They were asking $1000 for just HJ. I used my big-brian and remembered all of the post in this forum and said "Nope". All of the massages are very good though.
I also tried the foot massage place, which is located opposite to the main door of KC Hotel (walk out from the lobby, and the massage place is at your left hand side. You need to cross the road). I got a full-body massage for $260 for 60 mins.completely legit (even asking me to wear a short pant). The massage was very strong and I enjoyed it.
The last night in Beijing, I called up LotusPlace (got that from "That's Beijing") and asked them to send a lady for body massage. Full-body oil massage is $300/90 mins. The lady is pretty and is around 24 yrs old. I asked her to be naked and give me a HJ. She asked for $800. Got down to $600. (I know it is pricey. But is part of my learning fee. Please bear with me here.) She has nice and firm tits. She also let me suck her breasts. Had a great moment.
Going back in a couple of weeks and thinking to try WangJing MP (Thanks for Sniffer to provide me the phone#). During my last visit, I did take a taxi to WangJing Mall but I couldn't find the MP. There were a lot of new construction around the WangJing Mall, and I just got lost.
Beside WangJing MP, I am thinking to try out the "Spa deFeng for Men only" ([url]http://www.linfengspa.com[/url]) and Chun Xiu Lu Sauna. I am still in the "massage and HJ" phase, and is not yet ready to advance to "FS" phase yet. (Kind of chicken on disease and guilt.) I suck!
Enjoy and if you have another other suggestions for me, I appreciate if you let me know and I will try it out and send out report.
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SammyT is the undisputed King of Beijing. All the girls in the Pig bow down when he enters the bar. He has done nearly every one in the place. I remember the night he took BadBoyBilly and myself to Maggies. They really treated him like the royalty he is and gave us the VIP room adjacent to the dance floor with the best view in the house.
Great report my friend!
OAH
Sorry guys, but I need your help.
I've been reading the board searching for a cheap hotel that is girl friendly but all that I can find is 5 stars hotel that are way to expensive.
Can someone suggest me a cheap alternative, I'm looking for a girl friendly hotel or motel that is in the 30-60 dollar per night bracket. I do not care if is not in the center of the action or if is a 2 or 3 stars. Please help I'll be going to Beijing at the end of april for few days and this is my first visit.
Thank you!
[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]SammyT is the undisputed King of Beijing. All the girls in the Pig bow down when he enters the bar. He has done nearly every one in the place. I remember the night he took BadBoyBilly and myself to Maggies. They really treated him like the royalty he is and gave us the VIP room adjacent to the dance floor with the best view in the house.
Great report my friend!
OAH[/QUOTE]
OldAsiaHand - I too will never forget that night - you and I walked 6 inches taller that night whilst in the company of the "Modern Day Messiah".
And what about the never ending stream of honies coming to greet and 'offer' their services to the king?
All you and I had to do was step back a bit - and sort through Sammy's rejects until we found what we liked - works for me.
try www elong net.
CJW
[QUOTE=Disaster53]Sorry guys, but I need your help.
I've been reading the board searching for a cheap hotel that is girl friendly but all that I can find is 5 stars hotel that are way to expensive.
Can someone suggest me a cheap alternative, I'm looking for a girl friendly hotel or motel that is in the 30-60 dollar per night bracket. I do not care if is not in the center of the action or if is a 2 or 3 stars. Please help I'll be going to Beijing at the end of april for few days and this is my first visit.
Thank you![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Disaster53]Sorry guys, but I need your help.
I've been reading the board searching for a cheap hotel that is girl friendly but all that I can find is 5 stars hotel that are way to expensive.
Can someone suggest me a cheap alternative, I'm looking for a girl friendly hotel or motel that is in the 30-60 dollar per night bracket. I do not care if is not in the center of the action or if is a 2 or 3 stars. Please help I'll be going to Beijing at the end of april for few days and this is my first visit.
Thank you![/QUOTE]I am sorry all the hotels I know that are girl friendly of are in the US$100+ range. You could try Holiday Inn Express at Shangdi - however i do not personally know if its girl friendly so you may need to take a chance.
[QUOTE=Mcavity]Henry's Jiu Bar is no more...
Mcavity[/QUOTE]I'm glad I asked. Now I'll need to study up on Sammy's guide! Too bad though; I had some pretty good luck there.
[QUOTE=Disaster53]Can someone suggest me a cheap alternative, I'm looking for a girl friendly hotel or motel that is in the 30-60 dollar per night bracket. [/QUOTE]I can't totally vouch for this place as I've never stayed there, but colleagues have. Try the Winterless Hotel (温特莱酒店, phone +86 10 65812288) at the corner of Dawang Lu and Guanghua Lu. I'd rate it a 3-4 star (from looking in the windows), its reasonably close to the center of things (a five minute taxi ride from Kerry Centre/China World, or 10 minutes to Maggies), and supposedly is girl friendly.
I believe rooms there should be about RMB 488 (~US$60) per night.
Another place you might try - but will need someone else on the forum here to give more details - is whatever hotel the Q Bar is in (the Q Bar is on the top floor). It's a pretty nondescript hotel, but gay friends in Beijing claim it is a notorious place for them to bring their dates, so can't imagine you'd have any problems bringing a girl in. It's near to Workers Stadium and Sanlitun, so again reasonably close to the action. The bar itself serves up awesome drinks, and I have even seen the odd working girl in there, although I wouldn't choose the place as my first stop for a mongering expedition.
[QUOTE=Disaster53]Sorry guys, but I need your help.
I've been reading the board searching for a cheap hotel that is girl friendly but all that I can find is 5 stars hotel that are way to expensive.
Can someone suggest me a cheap alternative, I'm looking for a girl friendly hotel or motel that is in the 30-60 dollar per night bracket. I do not care if is not in the center of the action or if is a 2 or 3 stars. Please help I'll be going to Beijing at the end of april for few days and this is my first visit.
Thank you![/QUOTE]
I noticed a lot of those Home Inn budget hotels sprouting all over town, try googling "Home Inn Beijing", you'll have to check if they're girl friendly though.
In the Wudakou area and would like to know if there is anything out there over here on the west side of town? Or do I have to head out to the east side to get some?
[QUOTE=Kalibugan]I noticed a lot of those Home Inn budget hotels sprouting all over town, try googling "Home Inn Beijing", you'll have to check if they're girl friendly though.[/QUOTE]It's girl friendly (no questions).
Man, in these cheap ass Chinese hotels, this walk in like you own the place. The security guard will get the elevator door for you and your love of the evening.
Of course, I didn't bring in anyone after 10 pm, bring in any Russians, or anyone drunk or half naked.
Ask for an economy studio, it will cost less than a business suite.
CJW
[QUOTE=Disaster53]Sorry guys, but I need your help.
I've been reading the board searching for a cheap hotel that is girl friendly but all that I can find is 5 stars hotel that are way to expensive.
Can someone suggest me a cheap alternative, I'm looking for a girl friendly hotel or motel that is in the 30-60 dollar per night bracket. I do not care if is not in the center of the action or if is a 2 or 3 stars. Please help I'll be going to Beijing at the end of april for few days and this is my first visit.
Thank you![/QUOTE]Disaster,
Though cheap, I don’t think chain hotels like Home Inn are girl friendly, they have quite strict rules and sometimes even don’t accept foreigners (the one at Shuangjing bridge for example). You can try the following that should be within your budget (upper part): it is small service apartment. You have a bedroom, separate guest room, kitchen and bathroom for the price of a single room in other hotels (about 300-400RMB). And as it is apartment-like, I think it is no problem to bring in girls.
The address is about 200m west from Shuangjing Bridge (3rd ring) on the south side of the road. Or in Chinese:
北京国贸世纪公寓
北京市朝阳区广渠门外大街(东三环路双井桥西侧)
Tel 67792288
It is quite clean and from there, you are about 15RMB taxi ride from maggie’s.
Thanks guys you gave me a lot of places to check out. I will google all of them and then decide and on my return I will post my report and with a bit of luck a lot of pictures. In the meantime if any of you have any other suggestion please feel free to tell me.
Cheap hotels- I would go for Home Inn. Theres 2 I know of very close to sanlitun. Next door to the KunLun Hotel and also on DongZhiMen Wai. The DongZhiMen one is 2 minutes from DongZhiMen subway and also has a good snooker hall in the basement for legitimate entertainment. Theres been a mixed reaction as far as Girl Friendliness is concerned but I would personally lean towards the opinion of CrazyJim as opposed to Pier (no flame).
WuDaoKou- Depending on your social status, there shouldnt be a problem for scoring in WuDaoKou. Propaganda bar, is 50rmb all you can drink on wednesdays and is a live meat market. Note, beer is not included in this price, only spirits and mixers!!!!! As far as P4P play up there, Im not entirely sure, but the korean and japanese students sure make up for it.
Sid
Haven't heard much from the crowd on this place -- praised as a good alternative to Hollywood. But then have also heard that this is where the Russians clique together and may be less friendly for the less than hardcore.
Another I'd like to try is Studio 54, near Dongzhimen. Have heard good things as well if you speak Mandarin (or would like to learn). Apparently, their marketing hook is to offer free lessons from the girls in exchange for buying them drinks.
Any recent reports back from anyone on either?
Does anybody know a bar in Beijing where I can watch Premier League soccer this weekend and pick up a girl for some extra time afterwards?
Thx,
AL
[QUOTE=Autumn Lover]Does anybody know a bar in Beijing where I can watch Premier League soccer this weekend and pick up a girl for some extra time afterwards?[/QUOTE]The den, Guarenteed!
I gotta say, as I am about a month away from my first visit to Beijing, and I don't speak the language, I had been despairing of being able to find my way around the various sex venues in Beijing. But your Beginner's Guide and annotated maps have really cleared it up for me. I cannot thank you enough!
I only wish that I had had access to all of your info before I booked myself into the Great Wall Sheraton - at least it's a freebie stay using Starwood Points - So if I need to also get a cheapie room for shagging at a nearby Home Inn, it won't be too tragic.
You can change to the st. regis. It's a lot closer to the bar scene and a much better hotel too.
[QUOTE=Member #2041]I gotta say, as I am about a month away from my first visit to Beijing, and I don't speak the language, I had been despairing of being able to find my way around the various sex venues in Beijing. But your Beginner's Guide and annotated maps have really cleared it up for me. I cannot thank you enough!
I only wish that I had had access to all of your info before I booked myself into the Great Wall Sheraton - at least it's a freebie stay using Starwood Points - So if I need to also get a cheapie room for shagging at a nearby Home Inn, it won't be too tragic.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=S Times]You can change to the st. regis. It's a lot closer to the bar scene and a much better hotel too.[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately, the St. Regis is also A LOT more Starwood Points - Like more than twice as many as I used for the Sheraton, and more than I happen to have.
When I booked it, the Sheraton was a Category 3 (now it's a cat 4), and 5 nights cost me 28K points. The St. Regis is a Category 5 in peak season, and it would cost me 64K points for 5 nights. To me, spending an extra 36K SPG points is comparable to spending an extra $1100 for the privilege of staying there.
As for the St. Regis being a much better hotel, well, DUH! I would expect that a $450/night hotel would be A LOT better than a $200/night hotel in the same city owned by the same company. That's why it costs more than twice as much - either in dollars or in SPG points.
Is Jinglun Hotel girld-friendly?
In some of the saunas, in Taiwan, Beijing and Shanghai, they seem to expect you to sleep overnight on the couchettes, though not in privacy. Your valuables are in the locker anyway, so no big deal. This seems to apply to sauna users in general, not just mongers.
There was some ridiculous price, like US$10 to use the spa, and you can spend the night in a couchette, overnight ferry style, in a large room with about 20 couchettes, all snoozing away. I think it was cheaper than staying in a youth hostel. Effectively it's a dorm bed in a spa!
So potentially you could turn up with a weekend bag, visit one sauna per night, and only check into a proper hotel if you want to get a take out. Plenty of laundrettes to refresh your clothes. Obviously you need to clarify it's not one of those per hour deals.
I tend to travel with a big suitcase, with some home comforts, but it is possible to leave the luggage with a hotel for a few days once you have stayed with them.
Probably end up with a load of backpackers living in spas from now on.
Just got to Beijing from Xi'an. Met a nice girl named Laura. She took me to some place called Suzy Wongs. It was interesting. After we came back to my place at Century Towers. Up all night with her. VERY responsive and super GF. Didn't even want cab fare. Have another freebie lined up but if it doesn't work out I'll find one in a bar hopefully. Still have two more numbers to tap and a couple for my return trip through Shanghai. Thanks to everyone on the forum that posts. You guys have made this trip a lot of fun. OK, Iadmit I screwed up in Xi'an but that wasn't your fault. If I had to do it again I'd find a girl and keep her for the entire stay there. Too much trouble otherwise.
Hey Travelers25,
I just returned from Beijing last week. I have been to Treasure Island a couple of times now. The first I was escorted by a group of Russian working girls from Hollywood for some dinner. They have a show that starts there at about 12: 30 and prior to that is a house band that is kind of lounge-act quality. The show was great with some very hot pole dancers, acrobats, theme dancers, etc. I really enjoyed it. The food there is so so.
There are lots of the same women who work in Hollywood who show-up there around midnight. 1: 00 and the game seems to be the same. There are probably some there earlier as well but I am sure less than Hollywood. There are a lot of Russian dudes hanging around also and they can get quite loud and roudy. On the way to the pisser once, I bumped a guy who got pretty bent out of shape but I just smile and waved and he calmed down. I am a pretty big guy though (6'5" 225lbs) so I rarely have much to too worry about. I would say though that this is not a place for the timid however, I did not feel uncomfortable at any time and of course one guy, no matter what size, is no match for a few angry Russkies!
Worth a try I think. It was a sureal experience my first time there.
[QUOTE=Member #2041]As for the St. Regis being a much better hotel, well, DUH! I would expect that a $450/night hotel would be A LOT better than a $200/night hotel in the same city owned by the same company. That's why it costs more than twice as much - either in dollars or in SPG points.[/QUOTE]Newbie here. I had intended to make a fine contribution of my research on this thread, until one of the senior members stole my thunder late last week. What can I say -- between Sammy T, Intransit, and more than a few others, this thread is a goldmine. I need to revise my "not-yet-post" and will get it up soon.
I'm seeing offseason rates at the St Regis around $214 on Expedia. Too bad it isn't up on Priceline (as far as I can tell). Tempting, maybe, maybe, for a night, but I'd agree with 2041. A perfectly good room AND enjoyable company to boot almost anywhere else, for the price of one night at the St. Regis and only my right hand? Not a difficult decision for me.
NBG
[QUOTE=Picaresco03]Is Jinglun Hotel girld-friendly?[/QUOTE]Don't go there, facilities are old, and too many doormen. I'd rather to find an apartment nearby, same price, big room, and no one bothers you.
Unfortunately, the 3rd week in April in Beijing is no longer the off season. The Best rate I could find for the St. Regis during that week is over $500/night including taxes (4200 Yuan complete on the Starwood site, $458 + 15% tax and service on Expedia) the week I will be in Beijing. I think those Sub-$300 rates disappear by the 1st week in April.
For the difference between the Sheraton and the St. Regis, I could sleep in an upscale KTV with a very hot lady polishing my nob as I fade off to sleep.
[QUOTE=S Times]You can change to the st. regis. It's a lot closer to the bar scene and a much better hotel too.[/QUOTE]Exactly which bar scene is the st regis closer than the Sheraton too? The den? The Pig? Franks? Hard Rock? Sanlitun? or just maggies and hollywood?
I was in BJ a few months ago and needed to kill some time before the action at Maggie's picked up so a friend of mine told me to go hang out at Centro (Kerry Center), enjoy the music and atmosphere. It was enjoyable but it didn't occur to me then to check out whether there were girls available there.
Can someone tell me if they've seen or taken pros or semi-pros there? Also would you consider Centro a good place to pick up freebies?
LG
Just came back from the Kerry Centre recently. That bar definitely has working ladies. Just a word of caution, the Kerry Center for some reason now has an employee standing at the lift at night. I didn't use to. Making it a less than simple process to get your lady to your room now
If you don't like trying to sleep in a haze of smoke, this is not a preferred option.
[QUOTE=Cocoon]In some of the saunas, in Taiwan, Beijing and Shanghai, they seem to expect you to sleep overnight on the couchettes, though not in privacy. Your valuables are in the locker anyway, so no big deal. This seems to apply to sauna users in general, not just mongers.
There was some ridiculous price, like US$10 to use the spa, and you can spend the night in a couchette, overnight ferry style, in a large room with about 20 couchettes, all snoozing away. I think it was cheaper than staying in a youth hostel. Effectively it's a dorm bed in a spa!
So potentially you could turn up with a weekend bag, visit one sauna per night, and only check into a proper hotel if you want to get a take out. Plenty of laundrettes to refresh your clothes. Obviously you need to clarify it's not one of those per hour deals.
I tend to travel with a big suitcase, with some home comforts, but it is possible to leave the luggage with a hotel for a few days once you have stayed with them.
Probably end up with a load of backpackers living in spas from now on.[/QUOTE]
These FR's are from last fall, so are a bit dated, but may still be relevant.
Regarding the following two posts:
[QUOTE=Great Wall]FS at YanXiang Hotel: FS is available at YanXiang hotel MP. Depends upon your negotiating skills. Quoted price was Y1000, negotiated to Y500.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Great Wall]Full service at Yongan hotel massage center: Actually there is no real massage but FS. Just RMB 100 above the listed price for 1 hour massage. Young and tight girls are there.[/QUOTE]
I went to both places, FS was not offered (and I speak Mandarin, and have not had much trouble getting service in various Chinese cities).
Regarding the following:
[QUOTE=Mojo888]Jiuxian Qiao Rd/lido Area Sauna: Went to this sauna recently and had a good experience with a young and fresh 20-year old with blonde hair; from Dalian. Slim, average height, small breasts. No model, but very good looking and a nice personality. Like a party girl you would see at a dance club. #12. RMB600 for deluxe FS. Here's an updated address for those who have not been able to find it...From the Ambassador Hotel on Jiuxianqiao Rd, continue South past McD's;past the canal the road veers LEFT a bit, continue until next LIGHT; go through the TRAFFIC LIGHT and you'll pass through a neighborhood with shops, car parts store on LEFT; go past the next TRAFFIC LIGHT and you'll see a see POST OFFICE on RIGHT side of the road; a few doors from that on RIGHT also is THE SAUNA. It is distinguished by FOUR BIG RED LANTERNS hanging over storefront. 2 shops PAST the SAUNA is a WUYUTAI TEA SHOP plainly written in English. You know you have missed the sauna if you see the world's largest gas station on the RIGHT[/QUOTE]
This sauna, a typical, although medium-to-lower-end, Chinese sauna on Jiuxianqiao Lu has FS. However, you need to speak Chinese, and watch out for them nickel-and-diming you by adding fees, e.g., giving you the extra-fee pajamas or towels, when free ones are available, or putting a "room fee" on your bill that they didn't tell you about (better to clarify this upfront). The girls are of OK looks, with varying attitudes. I made friends with one who I've seen off-premises, she told me the whole neighborhood will be razed in June. FS starts at 400 (no BJ or anything special), 600 for something more (I did only the 400).
I also cruised the 3rd Ring Road near Lufthansa a couple times last fall, it looked pretty sparse, hardly any girls around 11 PM, and none in front of the HRC at all. Much different from a couple years ago. Haven't been by there lately.
Anyway, just thought I'd post this better-late-than-never info. Best of luck to all.
Hi,
I have been trying to sample a variety-Chinese, Russian, Korean. I found the Russian and Korean in Hollywood. Chinese are everywhere. Does anyone know where to find Japanese girls in Beijing?
Much thanks,
Rast
Hi Guys
I'm just about to confirm on a week in BJ and found the below apartments.
Anyone give any advise on them.
Or when you guys say go for apartments as they are safer do you mean private apartments?
Beijing Hua Wei Business Apartment Hotel
Average price*: $76 130 Xidan North Avenue
Xicheng District
Beijing 100032 , China
Lee Garden Service Apartment Beijing
18, Jinyu Hutong
Wangfujing
Beijing 118305, China
Mas,
A friend and I had some luck our first night visiting the Centro. He was staying in the hotel and I met him in the bar for a visit. We were getting "the eye" from numerous girls in the bar, most dressed in evening wear. We started to chat up three girls near us and another came to the bar and sat near us as well. We thought we better try and move things along so we picked the two we liked best and asked them if they wanted to go somewhere else with us. Well they all wanted to go as a group so we finally had to just get up and say we were leaving and if the two we were interested in wanted to join us, they could. We paid for everyone's drinks though and I was floored by the prices. We dropped over 1000 rmb in a couple of glasses of wine for each of us. High even for the US.
All the girls there spoke pretty good English and wanted to "practice" their language skills. The two we were with were in their mid-twenties, were nice looking and supposedly had real jobs. If I saw them in Maggies however, I would probably not go for either of them. We went to another bar, had some more wine (cheap this time), got touchy-feely with them and then closed the deal. We parted as couples and went off to our separate hotels. My buddy said he got down to the deed but had no condoms so didn't quite get as far as he wanted. Mine was concerned about a one-night-stand and got cold feet so I dropped her off before getting to the hotel and I then went to Maggies!
Both girls seemed to be looking for long-term hookups, not short-term money. Not really what I am looking for but I think if you work it right, "freebies" are easily available in Centro.
YMMV
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[quote=travelers25]if you don't like trying to sleep in a haze of smoke, this is not a preferred option. [/quote]i have not actually stayed all night, but the ones that i did have a peek at were meant for sleeping. they give you blankets and the only thing that disturbs you is snoring. the only concern i have is gangsters like to sleep this way, because they don't have to show id, unlike checking into a hotel.
when somebody is talking about mongering on "starwood points", and the difference between off season and presumably off-off season, i can't help but point out the ultra-frugal alternatives.
oh yes, let's not forget the washable (hence re-usable) condom (it actually existed in wwii, or was it wwi? ) and what about the no-frills airline approach to staff utilisation? instead of two girls for twice the money, what about one girl for two mongers, so you have avoided the single person supplement.
i look forward to hearing how it's possible to buy girls mineral water and nursing one beer for two hours. has anyone ever thought to ask the girl to go dutch on the cab fare?
[QUOTE=Rast1863]Hi,
I have been trying to sample a variety-Chinese, Russian, Korean. I found the Russian and Korean in Hollywood. Chinese are everywhere. Does anyone know where to find Japanese girls in Beijing?
Much thanks,
Rast[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately i have never found Japanese providers in Beijing. I have met some Japanese business women (normally translators) in various hotels in Beijing - but they are not providers.
I think you may find many of the Koreans in Hollywood are actually northern Chinese or from Russian (A lot of North Koreans went to St Petersburg during the Korean war). As for North Koreans, most North Koreans in China are illegal and they get out of beijing asap - but you will find them in shanghai. There are a few "legal" north Koreans which i have seen work in various Korean restaurants close to the north korean embassy, but i don't think they are providers. I have never met any South Korean providers in Beijing. Some chinese in Hollywood will say they are Korean, to add to the spice i suppose. I speak some Korean so can quickly determine if i am getting the run around.
I think if you want variety you may need to try HK or Singapore. Beijing is a Chinese, Mongolian and Russian provider town and is rather unique in all of asia.
[QUOTE=Papi Putito]A friend and I had some luck our first night visiting the Centro.[/Quote] [QUOTE=Papi Putito]We dropped over 1000 rmb in a couple of glasses of wine for each of us.[/Quote] [QUOTE=Papi Putito]We parted as couples and went off to our separate hotels. My buddy said he got down to the deed but had no condoms so didn't quite get as far as he wanted. Mine was concerned about a one-night-stand and got cold feet so I dropped her off [/Quote]
Nice report. Strange idea of luck though? Or did you mean bad luck?
Sid
Hi guys,
Just a short description of my experience at Chun Xiu as thanks for all the good advice that I've read here during the beginning of my one week stay (ending on Saturday).
I arrived about 9:30 PM (about three hours ago that is, still exhausted :) ). I was a bit concerned regarding if they were about to close soon. My Mandarin skills are non-existant so it took me three minutes of gesturing before I understood that they weren't about to close soon. Their English is very poor (and I didn't encounter one single caucasian besides myself, only two of African american origin I would presume).
I got in, they gave me a pair of very unsexy underwear (about the model I got in the military service, probably very durable though) and a minimal towel. I took a quick shower and then asked for a foot massage. They wanted me to buy one of their over-priced pyjamas and the language barrier was great. They wouldn't take no for an answer (since they didn't understand the word "no" apparently) and I gave up and bought one. "Luckily" I got to keep it so I guess I can bring it next time and save 98RMB. I was shown to their most expensive type of room (90RMB/hour and I didn't have the strength to try to get a smaller room without all unneccessary stuff this room had - TV, sofa, big bathroom). A lockable door was a nice touch though. I ordered a Coke, 10RMB so no scam there.
I got to see the menu and then saw the famous 840RMB price, without a description. I pointed at it and got the message through. I tried to get them to take me to all their available girls but to no avail (mental note - practice Mandarin until next time). However after a while the guy returned with five chinese girls. I would rate them somewhere between 5-7. They all looked quite nervous (who wouldn't :)). I chose a small, petite and young-looking girl. More cute than a classical beauty if you understand what I mean. She has number 828 (I checked my receipt).
They all went out and after a while the girl of choice returned with some necessary items (condoms, hot water...). She didn't speak more than 2-3 words of English (how good are the other girls in this respect?). We soon got down to business. She obviously had a programmed order in when to do what and she instructed me what to do. Well I played nice and let her start of with some nice back and buttocks massage (using hair and titties). Then she used her tounge in a secret place, but only for perhaps 20 seconds, she obviously didn't like that at all. Well well, then I explored her some, but she only let me use my hands and not everywhere. I didn't mind too much anyway. Following this she gave me a BJ with some hot water (tea?) in her mouth, never any ice though, did I miss something out here? After that we had some nice intimacy for about one hour. She seemed to get very exhausted and asked me (with her few words) to please hurry up (not hearing that very often :) ) and I didn't want to wear her out completely. She seamed to enjoy herself during the act though (at least it looked convincing).
Afterwards she just crawled up in the bed and looked like she'd run around Beijing. A minute or so later she dressed up and we parted. To sum things up, she seemed nervous and shy but still didn't seem to try to fake too much. I dressed up in my fashionable excuse for a pyjamas and headed down to the shower and sauna. From what I saw the place looked much cleaner than some of the stories here had me belive. All staff was friendly and really tried to understand my poor sign language. The bill ended at 1086RNB, well worth the experience I think. And I will most likely return to this place on my next visit to Beijing.
Next experience for me will be Maggie's :) Wish me luck!
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Hey Sid,
Yeah, bad luck indeed. I am not a fan of the freebie hunt myself. I rarely have the time and I am a believer in the old adage, "variety is the spice of life". A regular for me is about once every two months! I am more the Maggies, hollywood fan. Always something tasty and plenty of variety.
I was however, answering Mas' questions about freebies in Centro and while these girls ended-up not beijng anywhere near free, they did not seem to be working girls. I imagine you might normally have to invest more than a couple of hours of drinking to get most "freebies" in the sack anyway but I am sure there are exceptions. No matter. Its never my quest.
Cheers
chat.tom.com is gone.
Can anyone recommend some chat sites for meeting SW in Beijing?
[QUOTE=John Lee]chat.tom.com is gone.
Can anyone recommend some chat sites for meeting SW in Beijing?[/QUOTE]Install QQ, but you need to know Chinese. im.qq.com.
Yahoo chat room is also popular.
[QUOTE=Thirtysomething]They wanted me to buy one of their over-priced pyjamas and the language barrier was great. They wouldn't take no for an answer (since they didn't understand the word "no" apparently) and I gave up and bought one. "Luckily" I got to keep it so I guess I can bring it next time and save 98RMB.[/QUOTE]Good report. I also have a pair of Chun Xiu PJs. Does anyone have advice on how to get around this? My experience was that they wouldn't take "no" for an answer, so I talked them down to a less expensive set. I tried to look around and see where the free PJs were, but didn't see it. I also asked in Chinese, "So, all these other guys have to buy fancy pyjamas?", but that didn't get me anywhere.
[QUOTE=Gao Xing]Good report. I also have a pair of Chun Xiu PJs. Does anyone have advice on how to get around this? My experience was that they wouldn't take "no" for an answer, so I talked them down to a less expensive set. I tried to look around and see where the free PJs were, but didn't see it. I also asked in Chinese, "So, all these other guys have to buy fancy pyjamas?", but that didn't get me anywhere.[/QUOTE]
I think that this is just another of the little scams against foreigners that China is famous for. Probably the locker room crew gets a part of the sales so it is not to their advantage to give in.
I see two possible alternatives. One bring your own PJ's - good for return visitors. Put them on and walk right by them.The second alternative is to walk out, refuse the PJ's go back to your locker and start getting dressed.
I don't like the Chun Xiu at all - it is too hit and miss as to both quality and cleanliness. I prefer the Regency down at Guamao It works out to about 400Y per category more but is worth the extra. I have tried the 1260 and 1560 service and there is another level available for 1860 . The main difference is the size and quality of the rooms. Red Rope service is available in the higher level rooms.
Just back from a few days in BJ. First night I met a pre-arranged aff girl. Most aff girls seem to want money, in BJ anyway. Thought I would try it nevertheless. Pic sent to me in advance, rules agreed: no anal, no swallow. Price was 1500. Dinner, back to hotel, overnight. She was obviously fairly low mileage, a nice girl who tried her best. Her clit was difficult to find, and she could only come by sitting on top and vigorously rubbing herself on my pubic bone. Quite uncomfortable, at times! Anyway, I like spending a night with a girl, and she was up for morning sex too. Not sure I would ask her again, though. Being able to see a girl in the flesh is usually better than a photo, and certainly no worse. Also, amateurs are, well, amateurs!
I don't really like loud bars or discos, and so decided on another night to get the hotel massage. I stayed in the Crowne Plaza Wuzhou, near the Olympic Stadium. Girl who came up was rather a cutie. Young, lovely breasts. She was also responsive, and willing (DATY, BBBJ). She enjoyed the session a lot, and so did I. However, damage was high. About 1700 including massage fee. Session was rather short, however. 50 mins. Keeping her longer would have meant another 300. For the convenience and the fact that I didn't need to go out on a cold, wet night, it was worth it though. She was happy to give me her no. for future contact, but as I'm rarely in BJ, I threw it away.
Next time, when it will be warmer and I have more time, I will try Maggies or the Pig.
Incidentally, thanks to a previous poster for letting me know that the Den has sport and girls. Unfortunately, on the night I went, it wasn't football, and there was only one girl, not to my taste.
AL
What does AFF stand for?
[QUOTE=Autumn Lover]Just back from a few days in BJ. First night I met a pre-arranged aff girl. Most aff girls seem to want money, in BJ anyway. Thought I would try it nevertheless. Pic sent to me in advance, rules agreed: no anal, no swallow. Price was 1500. Dinner, back to hotel, overnight. She was obviously fairly low mileage, a nice girl who tried her best. Her clit was difficult to find, and she could only come by sitting on top and vigorously rubbing herself on my pubic bone. Quite uncomfortable, at times! Anyway, I like spending a night with a girl, and she was up for morning sex too. Not sure I would ask her again, though. Being able to see a girl in the flesh is usually better than a photo, and certainly no worse. Also, amateurs are, well, amateurs!
I don't really like loud bars or discos, and so decided on another night to get the hotel massage. I stayed in the Crowne Plaza Wuzhou, near the Olympic Stadium. Girl who came up was rather a cutie. Young, lovely breasts. She was also responsive, and willing (DATY, BBBJ). She enjoyed the session a lot, and so did I. However, damage was high. About 1700 including massage fee. Session was rather short, however. 50 mins. Keeping her longer would have meant another 300. For the convenience and the fact that I didn't need to go out on a cold, wet night, it was worth it though. She was happy to give me her no. for future contact, but as I'm rarely in BJ, I threw it away.
Next time, when it will be warmer and I have more time, I will try Maggies or the Pig.
Incidentally, thanks to a previous poster for letting me know that the Den has sport and girls. Unfortunately, on the night I went, it wasn't football, and there was only one girl, not to my taste.
AL[/QUOTE]Last time when I was in BJ, I visited a sauna place where FS is not provided. But we made appointment on the second day and she came to my hotel. It was very nice, she stayed more than 2 hours, and enjoyed each other, it is much better in the sauna place. Damage was less than 800.
Bro, you should consider this option next time.
Hi,
Will be in Beijing next week and would like any info on where to find some russian girls, and price.
Thanks very much
[QUOTE=Sbwonder 2006]Last time when I was in BJ, I visited a sauna place where FS is not provided. But we made appointment on the second day and she came to my hotel. It was very nice, she stayed more than 2 hours, and enjoyed each other, it is much better in the sauna place. Damage was less than 800. Bro, you should consider this option next time.[/QUOTE]Yeah, really good option. I think we all know exactly what and where your talking about. Useless!
Hello friends,
I am in the Crowne Plaza Wuzhou since some days and as I am for the first time in BJ I just walk in front of the hotel to find a "mamasan". She propose me a girl for 1000 RMB and bargain to 600 RMB. 15 minutes later a girl was ringing my room bell: young, shy... She was not talking any english word.
I bring her to the bathroom first, to take a bath but she just wash her pussy... Then in the bed: I show her a dildo and she was surprised and even afraid, then I wanted to take a picture of her nice breast but no way. Lets go for the stuff: she leck my nipple but I show her my cock, then she took a condom I had (it seems she did't have one). I explain: no condom for suck, condom is only for pussy. She didn't wanted to suck then I say to stop and I show her the door. Then we leave the room and I went in front to the hotel with her to explain to the "mamasan" (a girl) than this girl has no clue. I try to explain I want good sex, not a lower price (she proposed me even 200 RMB!). I say she can send another girl but a good one.
15 minutes later arrives 2 girls (!) at my door. They proposed me massage. Again no one was talking english so I show them porno pictures to explain what I want. Then I ask (with my hand) if one of them is agreed to do the same with me. As I understood yes (?!) I send one back and stay with the other. But then it was the same like with the first girl: she refuses to suck. Then I stop and send her back. I left her 100 RMB.
15 minutes later the first girl came again and ring my bell but I didn't open.
This girls was really only interested in money. In fact the "mamasan" didn't understand what I said.
Is it usually like this with girl coming from a "mamasan"? Is it because the price of 600 RMB was too low?
If somebody can give me a phone number of a good sex girl, please do it (PM)!!! I stay here until monday 26.
The positive point is that this demonstrate that the hotel is girl friendly: in one hour 3 girls came and go without trouble.
Thanks for help!!!
Sweetboy07
AFF stands for Asian Friend Finder ([url]www.asianfriendfinder.com[/url]) which is website where Eaglestar is used to harvest his preys
[QUOTE=Slacker80]What does AFF stand for?[/QUOTE]
Sweetboy,
The price of 600 RMB was more than reasonable. You can even get it a little cheaper. I suggest that you leave your hotel and go to The Pig for Chinese, Hollywood for Russian and Maggies for Mongolian. A thread search for these places will tell you all you need to know.
Happy Hunting!
OAH
[QUOTE=Sweetboy07]Hello friends,
I am in the Crowne Plaza Wuzhou since some days and as I am for the first time in BJ I just walk in front of the hotel to find a "mamasan". She propose me a girl for 1000 RMB and bargain to 600 RMB. 15 minutes later a girl was ringing my room bell: young, shy... She was not talking any english word.
I bring her to the bathroom first, to take a bath but she just wash her pussy... Then in the bed: I show her a dildo and she was surprised and even afraid, then I wanted to take a picture of her nice breast but no way. Lets go for the stuff: she leck my nipple but I show her my cock, then she took a condom I had (it seems she did't have one). I explain: no condom for suck, condom is only for pussy. She didn't wanted to suck then I say to stop and I show her the door. Then we leave the room and I went in front to the hotel with her to explain to the "mamasan" (a girl) than this girl has no clue. I try to explain I want good sex, not a lower price (she proposed me even 200 RMB!). I say she can send another girl but a good one.
15 minutes later arrives 2 girls (!) at my door. They proposed me massage. Again no one was talking english so I show them porno pictures to explain what I want. Then I ask (with my hand) if one of them is agreed to do the same with me. As I understood yes (?!) I send one back and stay with the other. But then it was the same like with the first girl: she refuses to suck. Then I stop and send her back. I left her 100 RMB.
15 minutes later the first girl came again and ring my bell but I didn't open.
This girls was really only interested in money. In fact the "mamasan" didn't understand what I said.
Is it usually like this with girl coming from a "mamasan"? Is it because the price of 600 RMB was too low?
If somebody can give me a phone number of a good sex girl, please do it (PM)!!! I stay here until monday 26.
The positive point is that this demonstrate that the hotel is girl friendly: in one hour 3 girls came and go without trouble.
Thanks for help!!!
Sweetboy07[/QUOTE]
Hey, do any of you guys know Ai Qing Hai? , (the sea of love? )
Its apparently around yansha? And sanyuanqiao? .
What about another KTV near an zhen qiao? I think called lan bao fang? , I went there once but forget the address: (can someone enlighten me. Its impossible to google or baidu these places!
Is it possible to start listing addresses in Chinese? I'm very new to this game but have been in Beijing for a couple of years, I'm sure these places are all over, Everytime you see the characters Xi Yu? ! But if you can't speak mandarin, you can't get go. I can speak and I wanna find out some good Chinese places, not the places where lots of foreigners go like chun xiu? . Also the more upmarket places like number 8 and howard johnson, girls seem a bit stuck up and require alot of $$$, not that fun.
Take care
[QUOTE=Mas 147]Just came back from the Kerry Centre recently. That bar definitely has working ladies. Just a word of caution, the Kerry Center for some reason now has an employee standing at the lift at night. I didn't use to. Making it a less than simple process to get your lady to your room now[/QUOTE]I stay in Kerry Center routinely (in fact, sending this from there now) and never have any problems bringing in ladies at any time, even very late. Of course, most of the guys at the hotel are also used to seeing me. I don't particularly recommend Centro however. The girls there are overpriced compared to other places mentioned here, probably because they figure if you can afford Centro's pricey drinks, you can afford to spend money on them.
I went into Maggies a little too early last night and eventually ran into the legendary Zula. Apparently she had just spent 2 months in San Francisco with her sister and was very glad to be back. Her sister does not allow sex of the random kind in her house it seems and I guess expected Zula to behave.
Every Mongolian girl who walked came over and asked her where she had been and she gave me a good run down on all the girls and some of the guys in the bar. She seemed toknow which girls were the best sex partners, guess based on what her men friends told her. Anyway she is a wealth of knowledge and wonderful to talk to even when horny.
Anyway I eventually decided to go home with a Mongolian lovely who was talking to Zula. Zula seemed disapointed with my choice but she did give me permission to go ahead and talk to her friend. We had a reasonably good time but I was so tired that I gave up on round two and told her that she could go back to Maggies which she was eager to do.
Maggies is great but dont go too early as you will just be waiting an have all the bar girls trying to get you to buy them a drink.
Anyway she told me that she was pretty horny and I told her was pretty tired and would not be a good party for a seriously horny girl.
I searched a directory but could not find the two KTV's you listed. If you can read Chinese take a look:
[url]http://bj.8j.com/biz/barclubs/bek/BJS001[/url]
The listing seems fairly comprehensive (frequently mentioned places such as Howard Johnson, Sunshine Club, Oriental Palace), but no reviews.
I like going to KTV's and am always looking for people to go with to both share cost and, more importantly, fun. If anyone is interested in exploring together or sharing experiences, please pm me. I speak Chinese and will be happy to organize/negotiate.
By the way, where is "number 8"? I have not heard of it.
[QUOTE=James Haiyun]Hey, do any of you guys know Ai Qing Hai? , (the sea of love? )
Its apparently around yansha? And sanyuanqiao? .
What about another KTV near an zhen qiao? I think called lan bao fang? , I went there once but forget the address: (can someone enlighten me. Its impossible to google or baidu these places!
Is it possible to start listing addresses in Chinese? I'm very new to this game but have been in Beijing for a couple of years, I'm sure these places are all over, Everytime you see the characters Xi Yu? ! But if you can't speak mandarin, you can't get go. I can speak and I wanna find out some good Chinese places, not the places where lots of foreigners go like chun xiu? . Also the more upmarket places like number 8 and howard johnson, girls seem a bit stuck up and require alot of $$$, not that fun.
Take care[/QUOTE]
Anyone still in town and want to hit it up tomorrow (Monday) night? I'm down for Maggie's, Pig, etc. staying at the Grand Hyatt.
How can one go about identifying this zula at the bar? Would be fun to try her out.
Thanks and best wishes for future mongering.
[QUOTE=Ontario Boy]I prefer the Regency down at Guamao It works out to about 400Y per category more but is worth the extra. I have tried the 1260 and 1560 service and there is another level available for 1860 . The main difference is the size and quality of the rooms. Red Rope service is available in the higher level rooms.[/QUOTE]
Ontario Boy - This is the first I have read about Red Rope service in Beijing. Is this the same Regency massage that is over by the LiangMa Fower Market and Durty Nellies? If not, can you provide some detailed directions?
Sammy
i have been to maggies the last three days and maybe i have been to early but there really have not been a lot to pick from. i have stayed past midnight but perhaps the real stars arrive much later. i have had some of my best experiences in beijing with maggies girls.
if you are one of those guys who has to work early the next day this can be tough and i have found that hollywood which is just a walk away is much more reliable -- the odds are much more in your favor a lot more russian girls but there are a few mongolians as well in the corner of the bar.
i picked up an uzbeki girl the other night whose name i forget, it was really hard to hear what she was saying in the bar and i was surprised to find out that she had a serious speech impediment once we got out -- so much so that i could not understand much of what she said. she had some rules about daty becuase she did not want to cum but she did give a really spirited and expert bbbj. i was having a hard time coming beciase of my recent activity but she would not quit and was surely at it for 30 mins or more, always with vigor. unfortunately she talked a lot when she did not have a dick in her mouth and given the speech impediment i felt like i was in some kind of strange movie. it was the usual stuff about a kid and struggle and the tough life back home. anyway if you can keep her quiet she is a real trooper and keeps going when most girls batteries would run out.
i also had a quickie with the lovely erica from hollywood who rushed me becuase se was going to drive that very night after she finsihed with me to inner mongolia to take care of her visa. a pse but still service with a smile as only the mongolians can do.
i have been trying to find the lovely sonie but just my luck that she is out for awhile.
hollywood was swamped with maybe 20 russian girls with no punters in sight . they might be willing to bend the rules a bit given the lack of prospects.
i am also told that monday is a really bad night so girls will make extra promises at our usual haunts.
happy hunting
i have been to maggies the last three days and maybe i have been too early, but there really have not been a lot to pick from. i have stayed past midnight but perhaps the real stars arrive much later. i have had some of my best experiences in beijing with maggies girls but have been disapointed with the pcikings in the last week.
if you are one of those guys who has to work early the next day this can be tough and i have found that hollywood which is just a walk away is much more reliable -- the odds are much more in your favor a lot more russian girls but there are a few mongolians as well in the corner of the bar.
i picked up an uzbeki girl the other night whose name i forget, it was really hard to hear what she was saying in the bar and i was surprised to find out that she had a serious speech impediment once we got out -- so much so that i could not understand much of what she said. she had some rules about daty becuase she did not want to cum but she did give a really spirited and expert bbbj. i was having a hard time coming beciase of my recent activity but she would not quit and was surely at it for 30 mins or more, always with vigor. unfortunately she talked a lot when she did not have a dick in her mouth and given the speech impediment i felt like i was in some kind of strange movie. it was the usual stuff about a kid and struggle and the tough life back home. anyway if you can keep her quiet she is a real trooper and keeps going when most girls batteries would run out.
i also had a quickie with the lovely erica from hollywood who rushed me becuase se was going to drive that very night after she finsihed with me to inner mongolia to take care of her visa. a pse but still service with a smile as only the mongolians can do.
i have been trying to find the lovely sonie but just my luck that she is out for awhile.
hollywood was swamped with maybe 20 russian girls with no punters in sight . they might be willing to bend the rules a bit given the lack of prospects.
i am also told that monday is a really bad night so girls will make extra promises at our usual haunts.
happy hunting
[QUOTE=Sammy_T]Ontario Boy - This is the first I have read about Red Rope service in Beijing. Is this the same Regency massage that is over by the LiangMa Fower Market and Durty Nellies? If not, can you provide some detailed directions?
Sammy[/QUOTE]
I may have the name wrong as this is what the place was called a year or so ago then interest in it just dropped off on the board as newer saunas were featured.
The suana I will call it Regency ..until corrected ..is on the north east side of Dongsanhaunzhongu Lu (the 3rd Ring Road) which is directly across the road (east) from Trader's Hotel and China World TradeHotel/Plaza. You start on the North East corner at the China fashion Design Centre a tall building with a silver pointed top that several wags here refer to as "The Penis building".
Walk north about 150 metres or so and you see a yellowish brick building with a UBC Coffee shop. Immediately past that building the area appears to be under construction but keep looking to the right and you will see a large neon sign - may or not be lit - at the front of what used to be a hutong but is now under construction. The only building is a white hotel looking building with a KTV sign. Go to the centre doors where the door men are and indicate you want a massage. They show you a check in desk you leave your shoes and are given rubber thongs and then are taken into the sauna itself. The sauna is clean and PJ's are free.
Normal sauna procedures from there on in. After your shower sauna you are taken upstairs to a longe type area where you should indicate your interest in a full service massage. My mandarin is lousy but they certainly pick up on my hand signals and I have not been disappointed. At this point someone should explain the price schedule based on size of room etc.I am usually shown a lineup of three girls in evening dress and have always found one in the first three. What individual girls do vary and even a little English is rare. Again it would be good to speak Chinese to check who does what when checking out the girls. I don't want to get too specific in case it comes back to hurt the sauna.
The last time I was there ( last Thrsday) I took the 1260 option and the room was a single with no sitting area etc. The time before I took the middle price 1560or so and the room was much larger with a separate sitting area. there was no red rope in the small room but there was one in the large. I did not use it . It would probably help if you asked up front about availability and costs for the redrope and what girls do it.
I'm kind of a newbie to this board (but have over 100 reviews on *** of US girls). Quick question first. At the end of the week, whould I stay at the Hilton or the Great Wall Sheraton. I know the latter has the great Passions, but its kind of pricey and supposedly the hotel itself isn't that girl-friendly. Should I stay there anyway? What about the Hilton? Anyone want to meet Friday 30 March?
So this is my first time to BJ (hence the above questions) and unfortunately soon off to the barren wasteland of Wuhan. Though haven't had any time at all to sightsee. Which is really ugly American of me, business seems to be going well so that I might be coming back more regularly.
Haven't had the opportunity to search out talent, and given my hours, out for dinner and sometimes drinks and all day meetings beginning in the morning, I have stuck with hotel service at the Crowne Plaza downtown (I know, I know, sounds like the Wuzhou location is the place to be for mongering). Still the health club is pretty mediocre, but the in-room massage is decent. Both nights I've ordered in and struggled with language and negotiation. But finally ended up with expensive but good service.
First night, girl with pretty much the biggest breasts of any Chinese girl I've been with, could have been Mongol, but she was pretty pale and more delicate features. She was slightly thicker builld (compared to other Chinese girls), but fine and did I mention the breasts? I wanted to take a pic of just the breasts, but she wasn't having it. These were a large see/small-D cup, the kind that were firm but when she lay on her back, slightly spread to each side. Great! She also gave a very firm oil massage, then a CBJ and lay on her back to let me in. I kind of expected CG, as in Korean places, but this was plenty good. Though I was still slightly drunk and jetlagges, so was quick. Price 1300 (down from 1500).
Next night, I ran into the manager in the elevator and instead of the health club, he brought me to the beauty salon to pick. And I chose a very cute little girl with nice little body. Alas, her breasts were enhance by her bra, but still very cute. She was a teaser, but spoke more english and we joked a lot and negotiated 1700 for a 2-time session with a promise that I'd only pay her 1500 if it was bad and more if it was really good. We jumped in the sack for #1 and it was good. Rubbing, tugging, CBJ and not a short missionary, then doggie. Then talking, joking, laughing, she showed me her private website (sorry guys, password protected) and then oil massage. She seemed interested in penetrating me (actually so did yesterday's girl), but I was having none of it. Then she got me hard with a HJ and seemed to want to get me off. I knew that I'd never get it up again in the hour (rare these days for 3/hr) so I insisted on getting with the main event, which she poutedly agreed. So cute. CBJ and then banging away. I simply couldn't come, but I didn't stop banging away in every position, till almost 25 minutes of non-stop pounding later (I was facing the clock), the explosion ensued. Not a word of complaint from her, took it like a champ. Yes, I tipped her. Too much? I know most will think so, but it was an investment for tonight!
Doc
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Doc
If I am not mistaken the Hilton is undergoing some major expansion or reconstruction now, so you may be able to get a better construction rate. It's only a 5 or 10 minute stroll from Passion anyway. Hilton has a trendy swish bar that has gotten some good reviews recently. Sheraton is nice too but in an early 1990's sort of way.
BTW, with the prices you seem to be willing to pay, I think you'll enjoy Passion. It's your business what you pay, and ocassionally I have paid that kind of money, but in Beijing you can get seriously fine tang for 600 to 1000 rmb.
Lao Ma:
Thanks, I knew I was overpaying for convenience, but I didn't think it was double! Perhaps, I just get too tired of the constant haggling in BJ.
Of course, I got this note after I just got serviced too, by another cute, tall, thin 'masseuse' who I could only negotiate down to 1200. Somehow, at the health club the 800 RMB I had agreed to, became 1600 in my room and finally 1200. She did give me the best massage so far, but still too much butt play, but otherwise good with no complaining about how long I was taking!
Hey Lao Ma, or anyone else, are you interested in mongering Friday 30 March?
Doc
Sorry guys but I need your help again.
Not so long ago I asked if any of you could suggest me a cheap hotel and you gave me a lot of good info, but now, after a quick search on the net, I found out that is possible to rent an apartment at hotel prices.
Can someone suggest me a trusted agency to book with?
There are quite few on the net and I do not know the one I can trust and the one I can't.
There was one apartment suggested to me in a previous message but the adress is in chinese caratters and so I cannot find it on the net.
Any help will be aprecciated.
[QUOTE=DocInHeat]I'm kind of a newbie to this board (but have over 100 reviews on *** of US girls). Quick question first. At the end of the week, whould I stay at the Hilton or the Great Wall Sheraton. I know the latter has the great Passions, but its kind of pricey and supposedly the hotel itself isn't that girl-friendly. Should I stay there anyway? What about the Hilton? Anyone want to meet Friday 30 March? [/QUOTE]
FYI, in the same general area as the Hilton and Sheraton, one can normally book the Renaissance on Priceline for $97 U.S. per night plus tax. I just dumped my Starwood points reservation with the Sheraton because I was able to get this rate with a successful Priceline bid for a 5* in the Sanlitun area in mid-April, IMHO, the Starwood points that I would have had to use to stay in the Sheraton were worth $140/night, and the rate with cash money was nearly 2000 Yuan/nt.
I also have heard that the Renaissance is more girl-friendly than the Sheraton.
After 3 days in Beijing, I don't really get what is going on here. I have been to Maggies and to Hollywood, each place twice. In both places, I had to look hard to find really good looking girls. When I finally found one the first evening, I took here out without talking details of the service, just to find out that she only gave CBJ.
Second evening, in Hollywood, I tried to be smarter, asking girls before what they do - with the result that the only 3 really attractive girls made it very clear that they would never do BBBJ. As I was a little tired anyway, I left alone.
Tonight, I went to Hollywood again, asking two of the few attractive girls the same question. With the first one, I received the same answer as the day before: "BJ no problem, but only condom." With the second one, it got worse - when I asked about blow job, she told me "no, I don't do - you need other girl". Finally, as I did not want to spend the whole night there, I just took the next good-looking one without even discussing details. Turned out that although overall she was quite good, she again rejected even a covered blow job.
What is going on here? In this city, I can drive in a taxi for an hour for just 50 RMB, but for one shot, I pay 800 RMB, and I have to get lucky to even get a CBJ? Isn't that the developing world, where things should be cheaper? In my home country (Germany), I get BBBJCIM for 75 Euro with much better looking girls... Am I doing something wrong here?
No need for agencies, I think you can do by yourself.
Just look into asiatravel.com or just google for "beijing & service & apartment" and you will find plenty of options.
[QUOTE=Disaster53]Sorry guys but I need your help again.
Not so long ago I asked if any of you could suggest me a cheap hotel and you gave me a lot of good info, but now, after a quick search on the net, I found out that is possible to rent an apartment at hotel prices.
Can someone suggest me a trusted agency to book with?
There are quite few on the net and I do not know the one I can trust and the one I can't.
There was one apartment suggested to me in a previous message but the adress is in chinese caratters and so I cannot find it on the net.
Any help will be aprecciated.[/QUOTE]
Vino,
Don't despair. I know the FKK clubs in Germany are a pretty good deal, the best in the world maybe for a huge supply of white girls, all walking around in nothing but high heals. That is my only experience in Germany and I am very fond of those places. Very fond indeed! Hard to compare that with Maggies or Hollywood but they are truly different experiences. In China, these girls will go back to your hotel with you and in my experience, will always spend much more time with you and often spend the night giving you a second, third or ??? pop later.
I have found a few girls that don't give BBBJ and fewer still that won't give a BJ at all but I have also found many willing to do anything I wanted. I agree that you have to search for the ones many western men would consider hotties but they are around and come in all flavors. Over all, I prefer the experience I get in China as compared to the FKK clubs and the cost is comparable. Of course, you probably have much more knowledge of what is available in Germany than I but don't give up on china so soon.
You also need to try a Shanghai sauna. Its good to be a man in China.
Vino-try the bar in the lounge at SAS Radisson. Be patient, polite and generally unobtrusive, You may be plesantly suprised at what turns up.
I've been to a few places in the world, but I have to admit I love the FKK. The Germans make the whole thing VERY organized, what else would you expect? Though I speak some German, even my friends who only speak English, get along quite well.
But I love ALL beautiful women, and am hot for the ones I see on Chinese TV, and haven't given up on China yet!
Doc
Does anyone know of any girls that do massages in your hotel room + extras? Are there agencies for this kind of stuff. What's the price range?
Thanks!
I have always enjoyed reading various postings in this forum. Great stuff.
After nearly 4 years absence, I am finally heading to Beijing on April 18th for a couple of weeks. I was borned and raised in Beijing, but spent last 17 years in the States.
I have always kept a special relationship with my ex girlfriend in china. Everytime I go there, we hang, we bang.
I asked her about having a white guy joining us for a MFM session, and she is excited about it. She is in her early 30s, petite, cute, horny as hell, yet appear shy on the outside. (don't they all?)
PM if you are interested, maybe you can come to my hotel, (or we go to yours), have a drink or two, then let the fun begin. If you have a gf want to do a 4sum, even better.
[QUOTE=Vino71]After 3 days in Beijing, I don't really get what is going on here. I have been to Maggies and to Hollywood, each place twice. In both places, I had to look hard to find really good looking girls. When I finally found one the first evening, I took here out without talking details of the service, just to find out that she only gave CBJ.
What is going on here? In this city, I can drive in a taxi for an hour for just 50 RMB, but for one shot, I pay 800 RMB, and I have to get lucky to even get a CBJ? Isn't that the developing world, where things should be cheaper? In my home country (Germany), I get BBBJCIM for 75 Euro with much better looking girls... Am I doing something wrong here?[/QUOTE]
Most of the girls who speak english are educated - thus they understand herpes, clamyidia, thrush, etc. The cost of the antibiotics to resolve the curable diseases is very high - higher then the RM800 they earn. (Even treatment for Thrush sets the girls back RM400) Thus they tend to not do it. You need to find girls who are lower down the socio-economic ladder - but they typically don't speak much english. I would suggest getting a girl from the sheraton parking lot - you may have a better chance of getting a BBBJ.
For the incurable diseases - well down south i spend a lot of time making sure the girls don't have Herpes simplex-I on their lips - because they do BBBJ. So i would suggest it may be safer to cover up. As for the Russians, who do the best BJ's in town - asking for a BBBJ will probably guarentee no BJ that night - they will be scared you will force it. Most of these girls are not "professional" so tend to be very cautious.
Guys,
Surely someone must have given the new russian girl who is working the den, a go? Admitedly, I havent yet, but I would certainly consider her the best looking thing thats been in the Den for a long while. The other girls just sit there with their tails between their legs. I believe her name to be Erina. Very good body, good rack, and weird kind of hair which makes her look even better IMHO. She's pretty much in there all the time. When she's drunk, she makes no doubt about what shes there for. Last night she dissapeared with a guy and was back in a very short hour.
Sid
As some of you may know, i have been contemplating this fro awhile.
Finally made the decision (the company got off a few more ducks) and I will be in Beijing end of June 2007 -2008.
Anyone on the ground in Bejing want to give a newbie some advice now and eventually meet up let me know.
Thanks,
Oreally
[QUOTE=Oreally]As some of you may know, i have been contemplating this fro awhile. Finally made the decision (the company got off a few more ducks) and I will be in Beijing end of June 2007 -2008. Anyone on the ground in Bejing want to give a newbie some advice now and eventually meet up let me know.
Thanks,
Oreally[/QUOTE]
If you try the monger trail - pig-hardrock-den-hollywood-maggies you will be ok by yourself. Remember never go with touts, but roaming mama-san's are ok as long as you ask for the selection only, don't walk far, pick a girl and go - don't go to any bars in this case. Also, if a pair of girls want to practice english with you, just say you are busy and walk away. Nothing is free in this world.
I usually stay at the Wuzhou Crowne Plaza and I always knew the P4P options were expensive here, but I had no idea until I read some earlier reports...ouch. But then I guess that is Beijing in general.
The touts who used to hand out business cards outside are very spotty now, you might see them 2-3 times per week. They used to be a quick and convienent way to arrange for a gal to come to your room for 500-800 RMB ST, depending on your negotiation skills. And the girls who do come are not directly affliated with the pimps and will gladly re-negotiate to come at a later/earlier time with a lower price and cut out the original pimp, ha ha...
1314*020004
13366655*79
(missing digit for both..."the number of the Beast is 66*")
Here are the only two numbers I have for these pimps, I can't vouch for them, they are from 2 cards I got last time in Beijing and might help some desperate monger out there staying at the Crowne and doesn't want to spend in the neighborhood of 1500-2000 RMB ST for in-room service. Their English sucks but I bet you could get by with simple descriptions and clear agreement on price. I used Chinese after some initial testing of waters in English so I had no problems.
J
I went to try this but it seems that chat.tom.com is gone. I automatically redirects to bbs.tom.com, which is the forums.
Anyone know of anyplace similar?
[QUOTE=Pier20]Today as I had time to kill, I went again on [url]www.tom.com[/url] to have a look (see my previous posts for details). I was there only to chat and decided not to go out for a SP quest, whatever the girls promise. The main reason is I have been disappointed each time before :
1- The girls are usually not the girls on the pictures
2- They say they live alone but you find at least 2 girls when you arrive
3- Their service is different from what they told you on the net
4- They may refuse to provide or overcharge the service if you are a foreigner
[/QUOTE]
It's been well established in the Forum (and thanks from the PMs I've received from some of you) that the Great Wall Sheraton is not girl friendly.
Does anyone have any opinions regarding any of the Starwood properties in Beijing in terms of location (close to Maggie's, etc.) and girl friendliness?
The Starwood hotels are:
* Westin Financial Street
* St. Regis
The reason I'm asking is that I have status with Starwood and get bonus points and upgrades (and want to maintain my status next year), so I'd have to throw away good points by staying at another chain's hotel.
In a recent report I reviewed the Regency Sauna near Guomao ( China World) where red rope service was possibly available.
Today I went back and found the place was closed - can't tell if it was for renovation or demolition. As it is in the middle of a development zone I suspect the latter.
Typical, you find a place that you like and are comfortable with and it closes.
That's Beijing !!
St. Regis is walking distance to Maggies. Nice hotel; maybe 30% overpriced. But you are using points, so no worries. The embassy neighborhood is really pleasant to walk around in duing the springtime - quiet, nice greenery.
Cannot vouch for the girl-friendliness of the place - its pretty high brow clientelle
My experience is dated, but it was not girl friendly when I stayed there a couple of years ago. We had to bring the girls up from the side entrance on the left end of the building as you are facing the hotel. The rooms were nice but a little dark. May have been the furniture.
Just my POV
OAH
[QUOTE=Lao Ma]St. Regis is walking distance to Maggies. Nice hotel; maybe 30% overpriced. But you are using points, so no worries. The embassy neighborhood is really pleasant to walk around in duing the springtime - quiet, nice greenery.
Cannot vouch for the girl-friendliness of the place - its pretty high brow clientelle[/QUOTE]
Stayed at Swissotel and was feeling lazy to go out. Found Lily Massage in the Yellow pages and called up. The mamasan speaks good english. The girl arrived in 30 minutes to my room. The massage is just a front - the action started from the time the girl walked into the room. She was a 6 to 7 in looks and body but was very responsive in action (she did not speak a word of english although the mamasan said she could speak a bit). Did a nice slow CBJ and did another BBBj in the shower. She was wet all the time but extremely tight so the first part of banging her started slow. Overall it was a good experience with a total cost of RMB 1200.
I have stayed several times at the St Regis recently and had no trouble bringing in a girl at all though I did use the side entrance by the Sizzlers to avoid any problem.
One time one of my Mongolian girlfirends was escorted up to my room by one of the butlers and I had no problem at all with Chinese girls from CWTC either. It is much easier than the Sheraton where I used to stay until they started stopping me from taking girls up to my room.
Stayed in Jinglun Hotel 5 nights . After one hour of checking in some one inserted a card for a massage under the door , I didn't even call them because i remember from my last visit that out side around the hotel the lady pimps offering girls . I went out around 10 PM and this girl approached me and ask if i need a sex massage , I said i am looking for a young and beautiful girl for all night she asked for 1000 rmb and i said 700 RMB we agreed on 700 . She asked me for my room # and said she would send the girl to my room .She said if you don't like the girl i will send you another one . After about 20 minutes knock in my door and 3 girls showed up.
i picked the one that i liked she was about 20 years old and really nice , but hardly spoke a word of English but the sex was great .The only draw back that the mama sun wanted the money up front that i refused first but she told me in the phone just pay her 400 now and the rest in the morning because i don't know you , and from tomorrow you don't need to do that . I didn't want to loose that sweet girl so i agreed even it was against my policy , but every thing worked out well .
she sent me new girls every night to my room and it was great experience . I really wanted to go to maggys because i never been there but maybe next time .
[QUOTE=Love Sex 22]Stayed in Jinglun Hotel 5 nights. After one hour of checking in some one inserted a card for a massage under the door, I didn't even call them because I remember from my last visit that out side around the hotel the lady pimps offering girls. I went out around 10 PM and this girl approached me and ask if I need a sex massage, I said I am looking for a young and beautiful girl for all night she asked for 1000 rmb and I said 700 RMB we agreed on 700. She asked me for my room # and said she would send the girl to my room. She said if you don't like the girl I will send you another one. After about 20 minutes knock in my door and 3 girls showed up.
I picked the one that I liked she was about 20 years old and really nice, but hardly spoke a word of English but the sex was great. The only draw back that the mama sun wanted the money up front that I refused first but she told me in the phone just pay her 400 now and the rest in the morning because I don't know you, and from tomorrow you don't need to do that. I didn't want to loose that sweet girl so I agreed even it was against my policy, but every thing worked out well. She sent me new girls every night to my room and it was great experience. I really wanted to go to maggys because I never been there but maybe next time. [/QUOTE]Hi Love Sex 22,
I will be in Beijing sometime mid April 07, can PM me mama sun name and contact no? Thank you.
Sorry to bother you guys. Does anyone know if Howard Johnson Paragon on Jianguomen (lu/jie/dao?) is girl-friendly? I searched the thread, but could find only one comment by someone who visited the KTV there. Appreciate any help you can give.
I'm a Newbie to the Beijing board, with my first visit scheduled for the summer. I've made minor contributions on the Prague and Vienna boards, with most of my "activity" being back on USG.
Partly as a service to this community, partly to prove I'm not a LAZY WANKER, I'm working on a series of "cliff notes" from my research. I started at the beginning of the thread, realized that some of the info was dated and that there were too many pages for this approach. More recently, I started working backwards, and did some searches based on topics that interested me.
Anything I post in my cliffnotes is intended to guide conversation and give attention to what (in my humble opinion) were particularly deserving posts. I apologize for errors or omissions.
I'm sure I'll have questions down the line, and I'm sure the regular members will make helpful comments to supplement this little list of mine. Thanks in advance.
Painfully Obvious Observation #1. Sammy T and Intransit rock, with more than a few others deserving mention in the same paragraph. Albert Punter? I'm going to risk offending a few by exclusion (Hello23 from many older posts, for example), but c'est la vie. Do you realize that Sammy T has a mere 149 (and slowly counting) posts, most of which are substantial? I'm not talking "dude, I agree, she rocked!" So, at the risk of getting my nose even browner than it is, but let's face it -- reports of substance, with thought and integrity, will keep this board hopping.
Which brings me to:
----- Installment #1 of Newbeijingguy's cliffnotes. -----
Don't read further without reading Sammy_T's Beginners Guide to Beijing:
[url]http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=571272&postcount=5152[/url]
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- Topic #1. Afternoon mongering.
Not all of us can stay up until the wee hours at Maggies, and the potential late-night hotel difficulties lurks in the back of my mine. Here's a few thoughtful posts that caught my eye:
Post #1. Hello2003 on an afternoon with a Passions girl. I can already see that as soon as I arrive in Beijing, I'll need to buy a SIM for my cell phone so I can start storing numbers as the opportunities arise.
[url]http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=542021&highlight=afternoon#post542021[/url]
Post #2. Sammy_T's report on daytime fun with colleagues at a sauna, including a meal. Now, I wish I had colleagues like that! Maybe I can connect with one of you guys during my visit.
[url]http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=562030&postcount=5072[/url]
Post #3. Xingjiao's post, where the theme was partly "afternoon mongering has its charms".
[url]http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=467856&highlight=safety#post467856[/url]
NBG
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[QUOTE=Typical Tourist]Sorry to bother you guys. Does anyone know if Howard Johnson Paragon on Jianguomen (lu/jie/dao?) is girl-friendly? I searched the thread, but could find only one comment by someone who visited the KTV there. Appreciate any help you can give.[/QUOTE]Last time (late 2006) I went, mamasan told my friend that he can take a KTV girl to a hotel room and the room fee was rmb 600. I think the hotel should be girl-friendly.
[QUOTE=Econ Man]Vino-try the bar in the lounge at SAS Radisson. Be patient, polite and generally unobtrusive, You may be plesantly suprised at what turns up.[/QUOTE]
Econ Man,
Went to the SAS Radisson Saturday night (arrived close to 10 p.m.). Stayed for an hour in the lounge, and took a look in the bar (both on the first floor). There were many hotel guests in the lounge and bar, but little else (and Singapore Airlines flight attendants on their way to the airport). Was I too early/not patient enough? What should I be looking for?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Asbguy]Last time (late 2006) I went, mamasan told my friend that he can take a KTV girl to a hotel room and the room fee was rmb 600. I think the hotel should be girl-friendly.[/QUOTE]
Absolutely girl friendly. I have been there many time and NEVER have had anyone stop or question me.
ES
Hi
I've just returned home after being in Beijing.
Here is my trip report.
I will say that this is my findings and based on not ever being in China before or speaking any Chinese.
So you may have a different view and better time than me.
Let me start by saying that I underestimated how hard it would be to travel to Beijing with no knowledge of Chinese.
There are some simple things I would do differently and this would make a big difference if I go back.
The main problem is that very few people speak english and every taxi I took spoke no english.
That left me in a postion where I could not get about by myself or even go and get something to eat.
Even in Macdonalds I had to point to pictures to order something.
So for anyone esle wanting to go, let me give you a quick survival guide, that will work.
1. Phrase book with Chinese characters, as you will have to point and show words.
2. Camera Phone, so you can take pictures of things like a hotel or shop and then show this to people and the taxi.
3. Street map in Chinese and have places of interest marked out, so you can show people and they can understand (I had an english map which was no good)
4. Collect the Chinese names of where you want to go, as they are not transaltions of the english name, so if you say Holiday Inn Hotel, you will get no where.
5. Get a local GSM SIM at the airport with EXTRA credit, (as how will you buy more after) this will save money.
6. If you have a Pocket PC phone, then you can get the Dictionary, camera and phone and have less to carry about.
Anyway back to the report.
I stayed at the New world Apartments ($60 per night) pleasent enough, but nothing 5 star (but I would stay again as good location and lots of modern shops) As it was an aprtment the Girls had no procedure to go through, so great for me.
During my time I only went to 2 places. The Pig and Maggies.
Let me start with a warning:
I found a Thai ladyboy in Maggies who got upset when I said that "IT" had a Thai accent and features.
I did not have to look too hard to see it was a LadyBoy.
So every evening for me started at around 22: 00 at the pig which is about 15 mins from my apartment.
It has a few Chinese and a lot more Mongolian.
Its a small place, around 50 people would fill it up, but I nice friendly atmosphere in the Lido hotel (Lee Doo for the taxi)
From here I took a Mongolian for RMB 800 (may be too much, but I was not sure) Good GFE and well spoken, BBBJ etc.
The next day I started at the Pig but wanted to go to maggies.
I mentioned this to a few girls at the Pig who said If I go, they will come with me as I would then pay for the taxi (about 0 mins from the Pig).
This was ok for me as they would know where to go and Taxis are very cheap. I tried to tell the Taxi driver "Maggies" and he did not understand!
Maggies is a disco as against a bar and inside I found all the working girls are Mongolian all the Chinese are there to sell yuo drinks or make you buy them. It was a god atmosphere, but as it is a long bar, you will find that you end up in one place and not able to easily see what is at the other end of the room.
The quality is very good, but that also means that they can reject you (or at least me)
Rates here I found were around RMB 900. 1000.
Experience was again good, but I did find that one evening when I took one of the better looking ones I got a lesser experience, wanted me to finish quickly then wanted to sleep etc.
So after that I tended to go with ones that were cute and talked well.
The surprise for me on this trip was that I came to China, for Chinese girls, but found very few in the Pig, none and Maggies and the Mongolian girls were much much better looking, In fact I did not have a Chinese girl at all in my entire stay.
Maybe I'll add a part two to this, but wanted to get something down quick, before I forget.
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[QUOTE=TSLondon]Hi
I've just returned home after being in Beijing.
Here is my trip report.
I will say that this is my findings and based on not ever being in China before or speaking any Chinese.
So you may have a different view and better time than me.
Let me start by saying that I underestimated how hard it would be to travel to Beijing with no knowledge of Chinese.[/QUOTE]Thank you for this report, which I placed in the "distinction" area as Jackson requested. My first reaction was "holy crap, what am I in for?" My second reaction was "wait a minute, it can't possibly be that bad." I'm guessing the truth is somewhere in the middle and would be interested in the experiences of other non-Chinese-speakers visiting Beijing.
Many of these tips are quite good (some appear elsewhere in the thread but should probably be repeated frequently). For instance, some of the members have previously attempted to post "business cards" of useful places, which would obviously be helpful with taxi drivers. If any of you guys in Beijing happen to get hotel business cards, please post them. The more the merrier!
However,
0. Chinese street map: great idea. In fact, I'm thinking one in Chinese, and one as similar as possible in English.
1. I have no intention of staying in the hotel. I'd rather walk around, get lost, and have to bail out, getting a taxi or doing whatever it takes to find some notable, easily described landmark. Tiananmen Square, for example? Then take it from there once back on familiar territory. Life should be an adventure!
2. I intend to avoid MacDonalds as long as possible.
3. Come on, saying "IT" would offend many people in most countries around the world. I'm not sure what the point of that warning was. Is there some significance to TS in TSLondon, or is that a wild coincidence? I tend to think it's a coincidence, given your choice to use "IT" in public. So I think I'm trying to take the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] out of you (translation: make fun of you in a good-natured way, no offense intended).
4. I like your take that going with the ones that were "cute and talked well" is probably the way to go. Again, probably true in most places, not unique to China.
My apologies, this isn't a report, just a collection of random thoughts based on TSLondon's report. I'm more interested in hearing how others have managed as non-Chinese-speakers in Beijing.
NBG
Dear All ,
I will be transit in Shanghai for one night,so not much time to search around. Therefore try to find a good hotel with a lot of extra activities.
The forum did mentioned Shanghai Hotel ? Is there any other recommendation?
Thanks in advance.
Cheer
I went to Korea back in 1998 for the first time.
Damned if those people there only spoke korean ! No one spoke english !
I was surprised. It was difficult to get around
[quote=newbeijingguy]1. i have no intention of staying in the hotel. i'd rather walk around, get lost, and have to bail out, getting a taxi or doing whatever it takes to find some notable, easily described landmark. tiananmen square, for example? then take it from there once back on familiar territory. life should be an adventure!
2. i intend to avoid macdonalds as long as possible.
3. come on, saying "it" would offend many people in most countries around the world. i'm not sure what the point of that warning was. is there some significance to ts in tslondon, or is that a wild coincidence? i tend to think it's a coincidence, given your choice to use "it" in public. so i think i'm trying to take the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] out of you (translation: make fun of you in a good-natured way, no offense intended).
[/quote]hi,
just to be clear, as i do not want to offend.
the single thread format of this site, makes it difficult to find information and related posts ie, this reply will be some posts after the reply to my post.
the biz cards would make a good "sticky" and then it is there as a reference and not a post in rep001tered in am larger thread.
(but i know im not the 1st to say this and the pros outweigh the cons)
finding a landmark is a good idea, but saying the english name, will get you now where, even the chinese / english translation was no good as the accent was so far out.
i tried saying "ritan" and "lee doo fian dian" and got no where.
also beijing is a big place and even though i was near tiananmen square, you would still need a taxi and then at least learn "left, right straight, go back...."
a camera phone picture of tiananmen square would solve that in one hit.
the ladyboy.
i only said "it" here in this group.
to the person (he she) i said where are "you" from?
are "you" from thailand?
"you" have a thai accent.....
this ladyboy was trying to pass it self off as a woman.
but don't get me wrong, i did enjoy myself and if the oportunity presents itself, i would go again and be prepared.
I agree Beijing is a more difficult mongering destination since the language is a bigger barrier there. It is the only place I can think of where many taxi drivers don't understand the word "hotel". I would not recommend an apartment for a first time visitor because of this. In a hotel you can ask the front desk to write the name of your destination on a business card. Then just hand it to the taxi driver.
Beijing is an exotic city with great places to visit as a tourist. Potential language problems should be anticipated, but it shouldn't stop any of us from visiting.
Thanks for your report.
[QUOTE=Lao Ma]I went to Korea back in 1998 for the first time.
Damned if those people there only spoke korean ! No one spoke english !
I was surprised. It was difficult to get around[/QUOTE]
to Lao ma
Do you mean south korea not north korea , if you go to Seoul today many people speak some english south korea have change the last 10 yr many people are well educated . I think you will have a easier time there than in bejing .
fast eddie 48
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]to Lao ma
Do you mean south korea not north korea , if you go to Seoul today many people speak some english south korea have change the last 10 yr many people are well educated . I think you will have a easier time there than in bejing .
fast eddie 48[/QUOTE]
English is a difficult language for Koreans to master, don't know why, just know it's hard for them to learn how to speak. Taxi understand hotels but not much else; and while English better than in Beijing, don't expect to get around easily without having a lot of hand written notes re where to go, etc.
From reading the board, i think Seoul prices for BBS are also higher...no personal experience for comparison??
[QUOTE=Traveler1234]English is a difficult language for Koreans to master, don't know why, just know it's hard for them to learn how to speak. Taxi understand hotels but not much else; and while English better than in Beijing, don't expect to get around easily without having a lot of hand written notes re where to go, etc.
From reading the board, i think Seoul prices for BBS are also higher...no personal experience for comparison??[/QUOTE]
English is difficult for them because grammatical patterns and phonics are very different than Korean. That said, almost everybody under the age 35 can speak basic English. One reason Korea it's easier than most other Asian countries is that things don't change their name in Korea. For instance, in China, they call Starbucks by the Chinese name, Xing ba, in Korea, they call it Starbucks. The same goes for everything else. A Red Bull is a Red Bull and not Hong Niu.
[QUOTE=Moody]That said, almost everybody under the age 35 can speak basic English. [/QUOTE]
From my experience, 'basic' is being complimentary :)
Most companies I deal with have at least one junior exec, fresh out of school usually who does nothing else but translate for the senior guys :(
Hi Fast Eddie
My last post was written in sarcasm. I read a post about being frustrated that chinese people speak chinese, and taxi drivers not understanding english, and it makes me roll me eyes :)
Thanks, London, for the clarification. I took "IT" out of context, my bad. I'm already trying to figure out whether my cell phone is "unlocked" and will be receptive to a SIM card immediately upon arrival. And it has a camera, so I'll start snapping pictures and collecting business cards as quickly as possible. Good tips.
----- Installment #2 of Newbeijingguy's cliffnotes. -----
Anything I post in my cliffnotes is intended to guide conversation and give attention to what (in my humble opinion) were particularly deserving or interesting posts for one reason or another. I apologize for errors or omissions. Don't read further without reading Sammy_T's Beginners Guide to Beijing. I posted this advice before, and will do so again until someone manages to top Sammy's work. Yeah, right!
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- Topic #2. Safety, scams, etc...
In a nutshell: don't get lured into bars for high-priced drinks and chat with girls. Don't follow men (particularly, but I suppose the same caution should be taken in general) to someplace (e.g. a dark basement) where there will be lots of beautiful girls. Duh. Back when I was young-20s, I got nailed on this in London, and counted myself lucky to get away with all my ID and credit cards, only 50 pounds lighter in the wallet. Can happen anywhere, not just Beijing.
Post #1. Maybe a scam, maybe not, but a possibility for us all to be aware of. See the Maggies reference, too.
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Post #2. Funinchina.com: stay away unless you need a tour guide or translator? This is an old 2002 post, and the site seems to be a collection of links now, rather than anything real. However, it might be interesting to get together a little collection of web sites that people have had luck with (or not).
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Posts #3-5. Dealing with police? This could be an interesting topic to discuss, as a "just in case...". I wonder how many guys have had real problems with police? The second post brings up the possibly getting stopped travelling at night with a Chinese girl? And, of course, the hotel access topic, which seems to be discussed about every week in this forum. Best to search on the hotel name if you have questions.
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Post #6. Word of advice: when someone offers to take you someplace, avoid it (2002 post by Dick Johnson). I think he was lucky to get away as he did!
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Post #7. Health cautions (not specific to China, though perhaps some places CBJ is the default, BBBJ unusual, and I gather this isn't true in China). Note the credit due to Intransit in the post re: safety and different types of girls and their willingness.
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Posts #8-10. Art student scam. The first post because it's such a great post (lots of other things discussed) by Hello2003 with a nice little warning about the student scam. The second (and related posts immediately adjacent) about this scam. The third, by Sebastian My, is a little goldmine with nuggests of wisdom. It quotes a Badboy27 post that also talks about "English Practice" scams. This hits home with me because I've recently tried making a few connections over the internet with girls supposedly interested in language exchange, or tour guide work, etc... and I realize I need to be really careful. Sort of partway between a freebie and a WG. I've gotten the feeling that 3/4 of them are fishing, and 1/4 seem pretty sincere. I worry about this latter 1/4 because the last thing I need is a clingy GF. I may just give it up. Impossible to know how much time I'm wasting or which might be a real risk, even if one or two might pay off.
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A question: I would think that it's wise to leave the passport/visa locked in the hotel safe, and carry photocopies around town? A variant on this question: I may have a business location, but then take off and check into another hotel now and then for fun (business location is not discreet). Is the original passport/visa a requirement for hotel check-in, or is any photoid (US drivers license) good enough? Or copies of passport/visa? I don't remember reading this anywhere.
NBG
[QUOTE=Traveler1234]From my experience, 'basic' is being complimentary :)
Most companies I deal with have at least one junior exec, fresh out of school usually who does nothing else but translate for the senior guys :([/QUOTE]
Excuse me for putting my head into this, if I am not wrong, English is one of the compulsory language in Japan, Korea and China hugh school.
All of them learnt the language understand basic English however a lot chose not to practice or use it. Before they knows it, they lost it!
Enjoy.
AG
Seoul is becoming an English friendly city, especially when compared with Beijing. Its very easy to get around town as the modern subway system has signs in English. And younger people know a little bit of English, too.
The biggest problem with the English language in Seoul is that none of the hotter girls in the Red Light Districts will do white men.
P.S. In no way do I mean to criticize a country where English is not widely spoken. I don't fly to the other side of the world looking for McDonald's and English speakers.
[QUOTE=Newbeijingguy]Don't read further without reading Sammy_T's Beginners Guide to Beijing. I posted this advice before, and will do so again until someone manages to top Sammy's work. Yeah, right!
[/QUOTE]Thanks! I am here to help! I like your clift's notes version of the forum. It certainly highlights the gems that are worth re-reading for both information and enjoyment! [QUOTE=Newbeijingguy]A question: I would think that it's wise to leave the passport/visa locked in the hotel safe, and carry photocopies around town? A variant on this question: I may have a business location, but then take off and check into another hotel now and then for fun (business location is not discreet). Is the original passport/visa a requirement for hotel check-in, or is any photoid (US drivers license) good enough? Or copies of passport/visa? I don't remember reading this anywhere.NBG[/QUOTE]
I think it is a good idea to carry a copy of your passport rather than the real thing. I have checked into a hotel before with just a copy, but in addition to your photo page and visa page you need to be sure and also copy the page that has your entry "stamp" on it. The hotel needs to know the date of your arrival in China for their paperwork. I have actually checked into hotels without any documentation, but that is always a big hassle. I guess you could always give the money to the girl for the room and have her register it in her name.
When is your expected arival in Beijing?
Guys, Come on! Lao Ma was joking. [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=249[/url]
[QUOTE=Sammy_T]I have checked into a hotel before with just a copy, but in addition to your photo page and visa page you need to be sure and also copy the page that has your entry "stamp" on it.
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When is your expected arival in Beijing?[/QUOTE]That extra page of photocopying may save me several hours of trouble. Thank you!
I arrive in late July, but it will probably be into August before I'll be able to shake free and get down to the business of fun. But I'll be there for over a month (barring unforseen circumstances). Plan of attack: learn the lay of the land even before I can start to partake. Visit and scope out the well-documented destinations, the hotels I've already booked for weekends away from work, and collect business cards and snap pictures. Confidence and comfort is everything in this game.
NBG
[QUOTE=Lao Ma]I went to Korea back in 1998 for the first time.
Damned if those people there only spoke korean ! No one spoke english !
I was surprised. It was difficult to get around[/QUOTE]I've always tried to learn a few phrases of the local tongue prior to my arrival or during my stay in a foreign country. I've often found that if they think you know some of the language, they'll be less likely to steal from you.
Better luck next time.
Guinness
[QUOTE=Ace Gallant]Excuse me for putting my head into this, if I am not wrong, English is one of the compulsory language in Japan, Korea and China hugh school.
All of them learnt the language understand basic English however a lot chose not to practice or use it. Before they knows it, they lost it!
Enjoy,
AG[/QUOTE]Elementary school students are learning English now in Korea.
[QUOTE=Lao Ma]Hi Fast Eddie
My last post was written in sarcasm. I read a post about being frustrated that chinese people speak chinese, and taxi drivers not understanding english, and it makes me roll me eyes :)[/QUOTE]
to lao ma
You are lucky if taxi driver in Bejing even know where to go , most taxi driver in big city are new from small town outside of the area and don't know most of the street , I have been on a taxi in Shanghai or Shenzhen I know the city better than they do and I speak good mandarin and fluent cantonese , I think you Lao wai will be in trouble next yr 2008 olympic so learn some mandarin.
fast eddie 48
I am a long time watcher but rare poster. I have a general question I'd like to put out there first, and then some notes about Beijing.
Question: Do people know of BBS's where takeout is an option? I've been sampling a variety of BBS-type little massage joints around the city (I speak Chinese) and have been generally impressed by the looks of the girls---some really cute young girls in lots of these shops. The thing is, HJ is all that seems to be offered, even with coaxing, offers of more money, etc. These girls don't seem willing (or allowed) to do more. Takeout (or "takeaway" for UK English speakers) also does not seem to be an option, and yet I have heard of spots where it is. The going rate at these places (the ubiquitous pink-lit little barbershop-esque stores) seems to be 100-150 for a massage and HJ. Most won't even allow you to remove your clothes or offer oil massage, although some do. The girls will let you grope in varying degrees, sometimes will lift up their shirts. Anyway---just looking for more discussion, info about these types of spots. There are old posts but I think many are out of date in this fast-changing market.
Notes:
A couple of brief notes that answer some questions posted in here and may give others some helpful info.
Six Club: Total disappointment. This place (in Jian Wai SOHO) does not seem to offer anything more than straight up massage (unless I missed something huge). I went around the new year's holidays and ended up paying more than 600 for what I thought must be an oil massage plus...and ended up being an oil massage where I wasn't even allowed to remove my shorts----? Very weird.
A Sauna: Ok, this seems to be a standard place for cab drivers to take you to if you ask for a bathhouse really late at night. I am sorry to say that I am always drunk/exhausted when I end up there and I truly can't remember the name. All I know is that the middle character in the 3 character name is "long" (dragon). Anyway, this place is highly variable but generally crappy. In one visit, the girl looked good, but would not stop trying to convince me to pay 1500 for FS (which she said she wasn't allowed to do there but would with me because she liked me. Yeah, right). It got to be really obnoxious, then on top of it all she tried to add in an additional 300 for a tip which hadn't been mentioned at all to begin with. I refused to pay this, we ended up at the desk with me asking to see a manager and no managers would come out. I finally paid the originally agreed upon price and left. The next time I went there the girl was not as good looking but much more chill. Ended up sticking with a full oil massage and an HJ for a few hundred.
Another Sauna: I've got to start writing down the names of these places. This one is on Guang Qu Lu. Just head east from the third ring and you'll get there in just a few minutes. It's huge and on the right. This place has some very cute girls and the regular sauna routine. Straight, quick FS with no BJ or extras is 488, throw in some body to body oil rubbing and a CBJ (or BBBJ if you can convince her) and pay 688, add in a tongue bath (which may or may not be delivered) and pay 888. Some nice kissing from one girl here. One came to my apartment another day for a mere 300, another wanted some crazy amount and wouldn't bargain.
I'll try to add in the names of these places when I get them. Finally, anyone have info on Chongqing Fan Dian (Chongqing Hotel) or Da Du Hui (another sauna)---these also seem to be in the repertoire of places taxi drivers know.
Be safe. Be nice. Good luck.
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48] I think you Lao wai will be in trouble next yr 2008 olympic so learn some mandarin.fast eddie 48[/QUOTE]Its unbelievable how much trouble we're/they're going to be in! And even more unbelievable how much they (chinese) dont seem to care.
Sid (suffering post thailand blues)
I am a long time watcher but rare poster. I have a general question I'd like to put out there first, and then some notes about Beijing.
Question: Do people know of BBS's where takeout is an option? I've been sampling a variety of BBS-type little massage joints around the city (I speak Chinese) and have been generally impressed by the looks of the girls---some really cute young girls in lots of these shops. The thing is, HJ is all that seems to be offered, even with coaxing, offers of more money, etc. These girls don't seem willing (or allowed) to do more. Takeout (or "takeaway" for UK English speakers) also does not seem to be an option, and yet I have heard of spots where it is. The going rate at these places (the ubiquitous pink-lit little barbershop-esque stores) seems to be 100-150 for a massage and HJ. Most won't even allow you to remove your clothes or offer oil massage, although some do. The girls will let you grope in varying degrees, sometimes will lift up their shirts. Anyway---just looking for more discussion, info about these types of spots. There are old posts but I think many are out of date in this fast-changing market.
Notes: A couple of brief notes that answer some questions posted in here and may give others some helpful info.
Six Club: Total disappointment. This place (in Jian Wai SOHO) does not seem to offer anything more than straight up massage (unless I missed something huge). I went around the new year's holidays and ended up paying more than 600 for what I thought must be an oil massage plus. And ended up being an oil massage where I wasn't even allowed to remove my shorts----? Very weird.
A Sauna: Ok, this seems to be a standard place for cab drivers to take you to if you ask for a bathhouse really late at night. I am sorry to say that I am always drunk/exhausted when I end up there and I truly can't remember the name. All I know is that the middle character in the 3 character name is "long" (dragon). Anyway, this place is highly variable but generally crappy. In one visit, the girl looked good, but would not stop trying to convince me to pay 1500 for FS (which she said she wasn't allowed to do there but would with me because she liked me. Yeah, right). It got to be really obnoxious, then on top of it all she tried to add in an additional 300 for a tip which hadn't been mentioned at all to begin with. I refused to pay this, we ended up at the desk with me asking to see a manager and no managers would come out. I finally paid the originally agreed upon price and left. The next time I went there the girl was not as good looking but much more chill. Ended up sticking with a full oil massage and an HJ for a few hundred.
Another Sauna: I've got to start writing down the names of these places. This one is on Guang Qu Lu. Just head east from the third ring and you'll get there in just a few minutes. It's huge and on the right. This place has some very cute girls and the regular sauna routine. Straight, quick FS with no BJ or extras is 488, throw in some body to body oil rubbing and a CBJ (or BBBJ if you can convince her) and pay 688, add in a tongue bath (which may or may not be delivered) and pay 888. Some nice kissing from one girl here. One came to my apartment another day for a mere 300, another wanted some crazy amount and wouldn't bargain.
I'll try to add in the names of these places when I get them. Finally, anyone have info on Chongqing Fan Dian (Chongqing Hotel) or Da Du Hui (another sauna)---these also seem to be in the repertoire of places taxi drivers know.
Be safe. Be nice. Good luck.
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Wow, this discussion about the English language and its use in China is so enthralling that I may never want to nail a Mongolian woman ever again! Can we please get back to the topic?
Yours truly fought off the urge to take one of any of four Mongolian hotties from the Cathedral last night (Lent is over! Yay!). Willpower...failing...blood flowing to extremities...I think the spring mating season is nigh, not to mention that Intransit will likely have to add seven new experiences to the forum in celebration of his upcoming 700th post.
Hey Fast Eddie
What's up with you attacking me ? WTF is your problem ? I lived in BJ for years and years and now I live in Shanghai. My chinese is just fine, thank you. Point me to a post where I have attacked chinese people, or deserve to be mocked by you and I'll apologize. Until then, fu$# off.
[QUOTE=Lao Ma]Hey Fast Eddie
What's up with you attacking me ? WTF is your problem ? I lived in BJ for years and years and now I live in Shanghai. My chinese is just fine, thank you. Point me to a post where I have attacked chinese people, or deserve to be mocked by you and I'll apologize. Until then, fu$# off.[/QUOTE]I don't think Fast Eddie has a problem with your Chinese speaking skills. Rather, he seems to be taking issue with you being a taxi driver from a small village. You've got nothing to be ashamed of, we all put our pants on one leg at a time.
Guinness
Asbguy and Eaglestar, thanks for the reply. Hope I have something to report soon!
[QUOTE=Eaglestar]Absolutely girl friendly. I have been there many time and NEVER have had anyone stop or question me.
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[QUOTE=Luster]I have always enjoyed reading various postings in this forum. Great stuff.
After nearly 4 years absence, I am finally heading to Beijing on April 18th for a couple of weeks. I was borned and raised in Beijing, but spent last 17 years in the States.
I have always kept a special relationship with my ex girlfriend in china. Everytime I go there, we hang, we bang.
I asked her about having a white guy joining us for a MFM session, and she is excited about it. She is in her early 30s, petite, cute, horny as hell, yet appear shy on the outside. (don't they all?)
PM if you are interested, maybe you can come to my hotel, (or we go to yours), have a drink or two, then let the fun begin. If you have a gf want to do a 4sum, even better.[/QUOTE]Hi Luster,
I would like to join your MFM session but I have never done this before. I don't know if this will work for me or us. I came here to Beijing 6 weeks ago and will stay for 1 year to learn Mandarin. I don't have sex for more than 1 month so I'm quite horny and ready to try almost everything. It is so hard to get sex without knowledge in speaking mandarin and not staying in a hotel downtown.
I'm 29, but I'm not a white guy. I do not look like Brad Pitt but also not like Dr. Frankenstein. My father is chinese and my mother is vietnamese. I grow up in Europe and do speak German and English as well. Do you look for a white guy only? I'm glad when I can join your session or we can also go out to have some fun together.
Be safe. Be nice. Good luck.
To night I was out walking and found a large sauna in the Yabao Lu ( Russian Street) area to the north and west of Ritan park. It was a largish building and had three large signs on the roof, Sauna in English, Russian and Chinese. There was also a sign out front with some english and I think I read " Golden ...."- something. It appears to have been there for a while. There are lots of Russian stores and restaurants in the immediate area.
I did a search on the Beijing Forum but was unable to find anything about it. As it is in the Russian area I was a little leery about going in on my own . Has anone anything to report on facilities, costs and type of girls?
thank you
but tries hard. Real good, open to everything.
Number is available.
Wouldn't let me film her in the nude.
[QUOTE=Maxmaxmax]I am a long time watcher but rare poster. I have a general question I'd like to put out there first, and then some notes about Beijing.
Question: Do people know of BBS's where takeout is an option? I've been sampling a variety of BBS-type little massage joints around the city (I speak Chinese) and have been generally impressed by the looks of the girls---some really cute young girls in lots of these shops. The thing is, HJ is all that seems to be offered, even with coaxing, offers of more money, etc. These girls don't seem willing (or allowed) to do more. Takeout (or "takeaway" for UK English speakers) also does not seem to be an option, and yet I have heard of spots where it is. The going rate at these places (the ubiquitous pink-lit little barbershop-esque stores) seems to be 100-150 for a massage and HJ. Most won't even allow you to remove your clothes or offer oil massage, although some do. The girls will let you grope in varying degrees, sometimes will lift up their shirts. [/blue][/size][/QUOTE]I've not known takeout to be an option, but in Beijing anything is possible.
As for services beyond HJ, you just need to try some more BBS. I was recently in Beijing and by wandering around the neighborhood of my hotel I found 5 BBS. At 3 of them I got HJ, with my hands on bare breasts, and with their pantyhose down and my fingers in both their front and back sides. At the fourth one I was offered the opportunity to put the little bot between her thighs (but no penetration). At the fifth I was offered BBBJ and FS.
There's another BBS I know of not too far from Wanfujing where I've always been able to get FS, and occasionally anal, depending on the girl.
So there is more than HJ out there, it just takes some trying places out.
[QUOTE=TSLondon]Hi,
Finding a landmark is a good idea, but saying the english name, will get you now where, even the Chinese / english translation was no good as the accent was so far out.
I tried saying "Ritan" and "Lee Doo Fian Dian" and got no where.[/QUOTE]Certainly knowing some Chinese is useful, but one option is to use the internet. For example: go to the Lido hotel's website, and click on the flag of China. That will take you to their page in Chinese. Print it out, and show it to the cab driver.
I've used this technique to get to many places in Beijing despite my deplorable Chinese language skills.
[QUOTE=Ontario Boy]To night I was out walking and found a large sauna in the Yabao Lu ( Russian Street) area to the north and west of Ritan park. It was a largish building and had three large signs on the roof, Sauna in English, Russian and Chinese. There was also a sign out front with some english and I think I read " Golden ...."- something. It appears to have been there for a while. There are lots of Russian stores and restaurants in the immediate are.
I did a search on the Beijing Forum but was unable to find anything about it. As it is in the Russian area I was a little leary about going in on my own . Has anone anything to report on facilities, costs and type of girls.
thank you[/QUOTE]Ontario Boy,
I lived in that area for a while last year. It was some time before I discovered the sauna, and was fascinated by its size. It's big as you know, and right in the Russian area. I have had unfortunate meetings with Russians and generally avoid, so I didn't sample the sweeties, but I can say it stays open until well after midnight, having walked past it on my way home on several occasions.
A continual irritation in that area for any white-skinned person is the horde of bicycle taxis. Drivers will always hail you with 'hunda, biackerley' and expect business. I don't know what hunda biackerley means, but I guess it must be Russian. These guys could take you to xiaojie if you wished but I wouldn't trust them. Yabaolu itself, where they gather in the late afternoons looking for work, is a dodgy area at times, where you could get pick-pocketed if you are not careful. This only applies to Yabaolu, the rest of the area is very safe.
Within a quarter mile of that sauna I found about 9 or 10 bbs, quality varied from a top of 8 down to 5, with more at the lower end. There was also one place which had Russian women, if you like them.
If you stand in front of the sauna, then turn left and walk on to the nearest road and then turn right you should see a couple of bbs ahead of you on a tree-lined street branching off to the right. This is a pleasant place to do on-street shopping, but I can't vouch for the quality of the goods in the bbs. The girls always looked very bored. Some looked young and inexperienced, others looked like seasoned pros, the mamasans I guess.
At the back of this street and heading north to Chaoyangmen ditie and the foreign ministry is a residential area called San Feng Li. It's a quiet, safe area, with a couple of bbs and independent girl suppliers working out of whatever room with a roof they can get. One bbs in there continually had good quality girls. The independents would set up alone, sometimes in condemned rooms, and I guess they were providing a cheap hand-job service to the temporary construction site workers who worked round the clock on several large sites close by. They lived 8-10 to a room and I suspect they also had their beds on a shift basis. A HJ from a xiaojie would be one of their few luxuries.
Good luck with the sauna if you choose to go!
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Have any of you heard of InterLingvo dot com? I signed up because one girl sent me there for translation. It has some incredible women's profiles and they keep writing to me, but you must pay for the correspondence service.
Ripoff or legit?
If there is a more gracious and generous host in Beijing than our brother Sammy T, I have certainly not met him. Saturday at his kind behest, I had the opportunity to try the Chun Xiu Lu sauna, also known as the Ou Lu Jian Kang Hui Suo.
For those who've been to red rope saunas in Shanghai, this sauna pales in comparison. There's nothing wrong with it, but it is smaller and less opulent. Actually the sauna rooms are quite nice, and there are a variety of them. Connoisseur that he is, Sammy insisted upon us having the VIP room, but someone has booked it for a month, and as such, was not available.
Sammy's eye for quality and his demand for it ultimately resulted in him wanting to change venues. I give him real credit for that--it's not easy to turn down a bunch of girls when you're already in the room and decide that you're going to leave.
However, Intransit chose to accept our brother's hospitality and selected #820, a Harbin girl with average height. When we saw the original afternoon line-up, which included a total of five girls--one who looked downright terrified--#820 stood out as the best looking. Undressed, she has quite a nice body and a butterfly tattoo on her right breast.
I had an evening appointment and therefore didn't have the full 80 minutes to enjoy the full massage/body lick/baby powder body rub/blow/etc., so she gave me an abbreviated version of each. Service was very satisfactory, and as it ends a long Intransit dry spell, it was about time. Because the sauna is walking distance to one of my favorite hangouts, it will now be added to regular rotation.
If the sauna visit taught Intransit anything, it is that the de facto leader of the Beijing board is Sammy T, without doubt. His informative reports, his eye for quality, but more than anything, his generosity as a friend and fellow hobbyist are are unmatched.
Newbies, if you wish to study at the foot of the master, his name is Sammy T.
[QUOTE=Intransit]If there is a more gracious and generous host in Beijing than our brother Sammy T[/QUOTE]
I cannot agree with you more. Mock-A-Bee and I was up in Beijing the last few days, met up with Sammy T. He proves to be a great host and 100% fun guy to hang around with.
Unfortunately I did not get a chance to PM you , Intransit in advance but will certainly look you up when I come back up to Beijing soon. I am back in my home base; please feel free to PM me if you are coming down to Shanghai or South China and may be we can grab a beer together.
My reports on my Beijing trip will follows in the next few days. Sorry for the delays.
Enjoy!
AG
Intransit made it two for two today, by boinking an old favorite of many members of this board--although at her request, I will not mention her name. I ended up partially shooting in her eye; apparently that burns.
I had thought jokingly about doing seven for my upcoming 700th post, but I didn't think I'd actually start making progress towards it.
[QUOTE=Lustforthrust]but tries hard. Real good, open to everything.
Number is available.
Wouldn't let me film her in the nude.[/QUOTE]A big WOW.. she is gorgeous.
Can I plz have her numbers?
BTW, was she worth?
[QUOTE=Intransit]Because the sauna is walking distance to one of my favorite hangouts, it will now be added to regular rotation.[/QUOTE]Just wondering which hangout that would be? The den?
[QUOTE=Lustforthrust]but tries hard. Real good, open to everything.
Number is available.
Wouldn't let me film her in the nude.[/QUOTE]Dear Lustforthrust,
Coming to Beijing on 17 April 2007 , so can PM me the number
Take out? Well, just yell "da bao" and wait for the styrofoam boxes ... oh no wait, we talk girls again ... my bad.
[QUOTE=Maxmaxmax]Question: Do people know of BBS's where takeout is an option? I've been sampling a variety of BBS-type little massage joints around the city (I speak Chinese) and have been generally impressed by the looks of the girls---some really cute young girls in lots of these shops. The thing is, HJ is all that seems to be offered, even with coaxing, offers of more money, etc. These girls don't seem willing (or allowed) to do more. Takeout (or "takeaway" for UK English speakers) also does not seem to be an option, and yet I have heard of spots where it is. The going rate at these places (the ubiquitous pink-lit little barbershop-esque stores) seems to be 100-150 for a massage and HJ. Most won't even allow you to remove your clothes or offer oil massage, although some do. The girls will let you grope in varying degrees, sometimes will lift up their shirts. Anyway---just looking for more discussion, info about these types of spots. There are old posts but I think many are out of date in this fast-changing market.[/QUOTE]I posted one, but that was in January.
BBS are exactly what you call them: hit and miss. Read my post about them and you will see your experience with them is very normal.
Btw, my last post was just the first time I got my ass of the ground and wrote a report. I have checked these places since 1997 and whenever I come back it is the same. A numbers game, a numbers game. But oh so much fun: P
Regarding the take out option. It is AGAIN a numbers game. I only once encountered that a girl came home with me right the first time I hired her. All the other times it was girls who I had visited before.
That said, I have the impression it is mainly a security issue. I. E. They do not go with you the first time around because they do not know you. You could be a sicko or maybe have your three drinking buddies at your place waiting for you to bring some hapless girl along. That one story of a trick turning into an involuntary gangbang I heard from a couple of directions.
Once they know you though I had the impression they actually LIKE you to take them along. And not just for the money extra money. The reason is that your place is probably nicer than theirs, curiosity and then of course again safety. I mean. When was the last time the police raided your flat. I mean real police. Not your mama telling you to clear out your pigsty.
Another reason is that they maybe see you as a potentional regular if you bother to show up a second time. And from this regular routine there is always this road to become "second wife" "side wife" "mistress" whatever.
One girl I had over at my place three times in a row offered free service the fourth time around. I was off to travel South and I forgot why, but I had to meet her because of some non-sex related issue before that trip. She was also nice in many other regards like telling me "you should not pick me up at the shop, pick me up after my work, then you can save the fee to the shop. "
Anyhow when I returned from the South I found out she had been arrested meanwhile. There is only one girl I personally know about to get arrested and it of course had to be this one. : (
To this day I wonder what this offer of free sex at the last meeting was all about. Opinions?
[QUOTE=Psoe1]A big WOW.. she is gorgeous.[/QUOTE]I definitely concur. With the glasses she definitely has this naughty secretary / personal assistant look.
Filming her in the nude? Yawn.
You get her in a smart suit, high heels and a bit more from the side then post the results here.
Pretty please.
Visited a sauna that I don't think has yet been reported on in Beijing, called Jin Hai An. It's in the Chaoyang district. Address from the business card is as follows:
金海岸商务会馆
潮阳区亚运村慧忠北里418号楼
Phone: 010-6488-1122
Cost was 600 RMB for one pop (I think via HJ) and 800 RMB for one pop with BM, BJ, and FS. The environment was clean and even came with a nice buffet dinner (38RMB) between 6:30PM to 8:00PM. So, you can get your pipes cleaned, and then have a small snack afterwards.
For this place, it helps to speak Chinese. Not too many laowais at this place.
Nightwing
[QUOTE=Nightwing88]Visited a sauna that I don't think has yet been reported on in Beijing, called Jin Hai An. It's in the Chaoyang district. Address from the business card is as follows:
金海岸商务会馆
潮阳区亚运村慧忠北里418号楼
Phone: 010-6488-1122
Nightwing[/QUOTE]
Hi Nightwing
I would like to take a taxi but, as you know, Chaoyang is a huge district .Is it possible to either provide a Pinyin translation of the address or an approximation of where the sauna is located ? is this the one on Guangoumen Waidajie ??
thank you
[QUOTE=Ontario Boy]Hi Nightwing
I would like to take a taxi but, as you know, Chaoyang is a huge district .Is it possible to either provide a Pinyin translation of the address or an approximation of where the sauna is located ? is this the one on Guangoumen Waidajie ??
thank you[/QUOTE]
Jin Hai An Shang Wu Hui Guan -- 金海岸商务会馆
Chao Yang Qu -- 潮阳区
Ya Yun Cun -- 亚运村
Hui Zhong Bei Li -- 慧忠北里
Si Bai Shi Ba Hao Lou -- 418号楼
You can also have the taxi driver call for directions, have the concierge at your hotel call for directions and show you where it is on the map, etc.
[QUOTE=Crazy Jim Wood]Jin Hai An Shang Wu Hui Guan -- 金海岸商务会馆
Chao Yang Qu -- 潮阳区
Ya Yun Cun -- 亚运村
Hui Zhong Bei Li -- 慧忠北里
Si Bai Shi Ba Hao Lou -- 418号楼
You can also have the taxi driver call for directions, have the concierge at your hotel call for directions and show you where it is on the map, etc.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the translation; you beat me to it; your Pin Yin is quite good! When I went, I didn't even know the address; I was just given the phone number. Just get into a taxi, call the place, and give the phone to the driver. It's off the North 4th Ring Road.
A couple of things to note: Go in, check all your stuff at the locker, take a nice bath (also has a hot pool and sauna as well). Change into their pajamas, and head up to the 2nd floor. I was surprised in that this is a mixed-sex sauna place. There are male and female customers here! On the 2nd floor, you can get some small snacks to eat. Afterwards, ask for a private room for massage. In the room, they will show you a menu with massage options. Ignore the menu, and tell them that you want full service massage ("quan2 tao4 an4 mo1"). The waiter will then go back out, and bring back in a parade of girls (I picked one out of seven). Have fun picking. After you're done, relax, go back downstairs, shower and leave. Price is either 600 or 800 depending on the service you select.
No one speaks English here, so good luck if you don't speak Chinese!
Nightwing
For Ontario Boy and others looking to translate chinese characters into pin yin, I posted a link to a nice site on the Chinese Words & Phrases page
[QUOTE=Psoe1]A big WOW.. she is gorgeous.
Can I plz have her numbers?
BTW, was she worth?[/QUOTE]
You see that? I gave her # to 11 mongers (with reporting history) and not one has reported back. Here's the butterball again in Siam. Gosh, she's putting on weight by the day!
I haven't actually been to this place, but here's some linguistic info:
"Quan tao an mo" means "complete set massage". In this place it may just mean fucking, but in some places I have been it includes other things than fucking (the guy drying your back after the bath, fruit platter, deluxe pajamas, masseuse, etc) that wil raise price.
You can ask "quan tao an mo bao kuo shenme fu wu?" (what services does the complete set include?) tu see what you are actually paying for.
"Ru guo wo jiu yao zou ai bu yao bie de fu wu duo xiao qian?" can clarify how much it is just for sex.
[QUOTE=Nightwing88]Thanks for the translation; you beat me to it; your Pin Yin is quite good! When I went, I didn't even know the address; I was just given the phone number. Just get into a taxi, call the place, and give the phone to the driver. It's off the North 4th Ring Road.
A couple of things to note: Go in, check all your stuff at the locker, take a nice bath (also has a hot pool and sauna as well). Change into their pajamas, and head up to the 2nd floor. I was surprised in that this is a mixed-sex sauna place. There are male and female customers here! On the 2nd floor, you can get some small snacks to eat. Afterwards, ask for a private room for massage. In the room, they will show you a menu with massage options. Ignore the menu, and tell them that you want full service massage ("quan2 tao4 an4 mo1"). The waiter will then go back out, and bring back in a parade of girls (I picked one out of seven). Have fun picking. After you're done, relax, go back downstairs, shower and leave. Price is either 600 or 800 depending on the service you select.
No one speaks English here, so good luck if you don't speak Chinese!
Nightwing[/QUOTE]
Just a quickie!
Chun Xiu Lu Sauna over the weekend. Not 100% sure but I think number 823. Absolutley brilliant service. She started with the usual cat bath and really couldnt get enough of rimming me. She dragged me off the bed and made me stand as she administered a wonderful BBBJ. Followed by great FS and finished with a complimetary load all over her tits. And just as I thought it was time to crash out and fall asleep, she jumped back on board and would not let me settle until she HJ'ed another shot. Wow! I thought this was a strict 1 shot session so for no extra tip or rip off, I have to say that was the best time yet. Total damage, 2300rmb for my mate and myself.
Got mixed up with a couple of Uzbeks from Maggies over the weekend too. Really nice girls and one of them has a great dark complexion. Almost Indian looking from what I remember. We all went back to their place down near Blue castle. Lovely international apartment, fully stocked with all sorts of wine and booze. Enjoyed a really fun session alongside my mate who had the other one. Damage was 800 each but they squeezed us for an extra 200 each as a tip for the orgie. Not too sure what the story is with their apartment though. Got the feeling there was a lot more behind the scenes than met the eye (organised work) although their GFE was unbeatable and no hints of being forced. They also speak good english, much better than the mongies and chinese.
Sid
After agonizing over this report for several weeks I decided that I should share it with the brothers, having made few contributions in the past few or so.
I was in Beijing for two nights about a month ago and had a great experience with an outcall provider. Her name was Wang Xiaoli, and she worked for one of those home-style massage places in the Soho area. It was called Charming Massage, if my memory is correct, and you can find its ad in one of those directories like That’s Beijing. According to the ad, they provide a one-hour “royal treatment” (massage by two girls) for 400 yuan.
After dinner that night, I called the number in the advertisement and asked for a two-girl massage. The woman at the other end of the line, who was able to speak decent English, told me she would get me two girls in about 15 minutes. I called back a while later, and was told that one girl had arrived at my hotel and that the other girl would get there in another five minutes. I called her again to confirm that both had arrived, and went downstairs to pick them up. (I was staying at the Grand Hyatt. For better security, the lifts must be activated by room keys after 11pm. That’s a bit inconvenient, especially if you’re traveling with some business associates).
The older girl, who seemed to be in her early 20s, was of medium built and looked barely okay. She’s just a 5 or 6 – no pretty face, no tits, no ass – and I don’t even remember her name. The other girl, Wang, at first glance looked like she was about the same age, but when you looked closer you could see that she was actually very young. She confessed to be just over 18, or 19 by Chinese way of reckoning (you’re one year old as soon as you’re born). She was quite pretty and sweet – the girl next door type – and was tiny – barely five feet tall. The tall girl could speak some English, but Wang could not.
The two girls got into my room without any problem. I then undressed (but still with my underwear) and got on bed. They got to work right away, one on each side, one doing my thighs and the other my back. The older/taller girl took off her jeans after getting on the bed, but the tiny sweetie remained full clothed except for her overcoat. After a few minutes of massage the tall girl asked if I wanted any extra service, and started to sell me a threesome for 3,000 yuan all in. I countered 1,000 yuan, and after a bit of haggling settled for 800 each.
The tall girl suggested that we all washed up, so we headed to the bathroom which had a tub and a shower. She jumped into the tub to wash her private part, and I went to the shower room. Wang came in last, and I was amazed to find that even though she was so tiny her body was actually well proportioned. Now of course she’d only got A-sized tits, but they looked great on her. I pulled her into the shower room, and she reluctantly allowed me to wash her. Then I found another pleasant surprise – she had virtually no pubic hair. We washed each other, it was fun but not really a hot session, probably because she was still quite shy.
We then congregated on bed again. Before they started to caress and blow me, I had Wang lying on her back and kissed her silky body all over. Their sex skills were just so-so, and Wang was clearly not very experienced. After a short while I decided that I must eat Wang, because her **** was so pink and tender and clean. I lied on my back and got her to sit on my face, and soon she was jumping up and down on me.
After I finished my meal I told the tall girl to put a condom on me, and entered her in missionary style. I only fucked her for some three to five minutes, and switched to work on Wang. The tall girl changed the condom, and I enter Wang’s incredibly tight hole. After a little bit of action on bed I decided to move to the sitting room. I picked her up with her legs wrapped around my waist and my dick firmly in her hole, and went out to continue the action on the sofa. The tall girl thought she had done her job, and started to put on her clothes. So I told her to come to the sitting room and sit on the coffee table with her legs wide spread. It was great to be fucking Wang’s tiny tight hole and fingering another **** at the same time. Then I got a bit tired, and sat down on the sofa so that Wang could ride me. As she wasn’t very experienced, the ride was no good and after only a few attempts I picked her up again and put her on the dinner table to continue with the action. It also proved a bit tricky for her, so I carried her to the single-seat sofa, and started to really work her hard. Finally I exploded violently in her, after what must have been half an hour of pure ecstasy. It was certainly my best session in a long time.
I have used outcall services in Beijing several times in the past couple of years, but they were nothing to write home about, except for this encounter with Wang. With these kind of massage places, I guess it really is a matter of luck.
[QUOTE=WooVictor]After agonizing over this report for several weeks I decided that I should share it with the brothers, having made few contributions in the past few or so.
I was in Beijing for two nights about a month ago and had a great experience with an outcall provider. Her name was Wang Xiaoli, and she worked for one of those home-style massage places in the Soho area. It was called Charming Massage, if my memory is correct, and you can find its ad in one of those directories like That’s Beijing. According to the ad, they provide a one-hour “royal treatment” (massage by two girls) for 400 yuan.
After dinner that night, I called the number in the advertisement and asked for a two-girl massage. The woman at the other end of the line, who was able to speak decent English, told me she would get me two girls in about 15 minutes. I called back a while later, and was told that one girl had arrived at my hotel and that the other girl would get there in another five minutes. I called her again to confirm that both had arrived, and went downstairs to pick them up. (I was staying at the Grand Hyatt. For better security, the lifts must be activated by room keys after 11pm. That’s a bit inconvenient, especially if you’re traveling with some business associates).
The older girl, who seemed to be in her early 20s, was of medium built and looked barely okay. She’s just a 5 or 6 – no pretty face, no tits, no ass – and I don’t even remember her name. The other girl, Wang, at first glance looked like she was about the same age, but when you looked closer you could see that she was actually very young. She confessed to be just over 18, or 19 by Chinese way of reckoning (you’re one year old as soon as you’re born). She was quite pretty and sweet – the girl next door type – and was tiny – barely five feet tall. The tall girl could speak some English, but Wang could not.
The two girls got into my room without any problem. I then undressed (but still with my underwear) and got on bed. They got to work right away, one on each side, one doing my thighs and the other my back. The older/taller girl took off her jeans after getting on the bed, but the tiny sweetie remained full clothed except for her overcoat. After a few minutes of massage the tall girl asked if I wanted any extra service, and started to sell me a threesome for 3,000 yuan all in. I countered 1,000 yuan, and after a bit of haggling settled for 800 each.[/QUOTE]Dear WV,
800 yuan each is definately on the high, i can speak very well Chinese, so i pay 300 yuan for ST and 500-600 yuan for threesome. PM me if you need the Mamasan contact, but provided you can speak Chinese. On my recent trip i event got a young 18 years old student for 300+ 50 tips.
TSLondon,
Another good advice is to grab several of your hotel's business cards so you can give one to your taxi.
Second, if you found a good place to monger where there are lots of pretty girls, get there business cards as well.
Just want to share my experience with you.
I took a girl called Zaya from Maggie's for over night. She agreed with 1k for one night. I was so tired and falled in sleep right after some actions. When I waked up around 3am, she was no where but left a few empty bottles from the mini bar. I was a little scared because I have my stuff everywhere in my room. Fortunately, she only took 1k plus 100 rmb for cab but left everything else in my room. I believe she searched everywhere because the money was in one of many pockets. She didn't take things like my passport, credit cards, expensive phones away. She was nice enough and left a short message saying " I am leaving now. I take 1000 plus 100 for cab from your packet. I will sms you ok. "
Next evening, I saw her in Maggies but she seemed not bothered at all. She asked me if I was still interested in taking her.
I ended up with another Zaya and took her to my room. Since I learned from the previous night, I locked up everything that may be interesting to this Zaya. I am sure she tried to do the same thing to escape in the middle of the night. I can tell because she opened the room door without unlocking the security chain. I purposely locked the security chain before we go to bed. I believe she searched around but couldn't find money so just stay until when I waked up.
So. Lock valuable stuff including money before go to bed and play safely.
[QUOTE=Harley Man]I took a girl called Zaya from Maggie's for over night. She agreed with 1k for one night. I was so tired and falled in sleep right after some actions. When I waked up around 3am, she was no where but left a few empty bottles from the mini bar. I was a little scared because I have my stuff everywhere in my room. Fortunately, she only took 1k plus 100 rmb for cab but left everything else in my room. I believe she searched everywhere because the money was in one of many pockets. She didn't take things like my passport, credit cards, expensive phones away. She was nice enough and left a short message saying " I am leaving now. I take 1000 plus 100 for cab from your packet. I will sms you ok. "Next evening, I saw her in Maggies but she seemed not bothered at all. She asked me if I was still interested in taking her..[/QUOTE]This is unjust IMO. You obviously took her from maggies very early, if you then fell asleep and woke up at only 3am. Yikes, I usually dont even get to Maggies till this time. She had every right to walk out on you. You had agreed to pay her the 1K, and taking an extra 100rmb (even though wrong of her) is surely not the end of the world if you had 1K to splash out anyway. She even left you a note telling you! And the next night, she wanted to go with you again. Ive absolutely no doubts you could have gotten her for half price that night if you had of worked it correctly.
Sorry, but this report is being very harsh on her, especially as you have named her too. Ive been robbed plenty of times to know that this is not the mark of a thief. They wouldnt even look you in the eye the next night, never mind offer to go again. You could have easily agreed to take her home and then beaten shit out of her in you pad. Which sensible thief is going to fall for that???
Sid
[QUOTE=SidTheSexist]This is unjust IMO. You obviously took her from maggies very early, if you then fell asleep and woke up at only 3am. Yikes, I usually dont even get to Maggies till this time. She had every right to walk out on you. You had agreed to pay her the 1K, and taking an extra 100rmb (even though wrong of her) is surely not the end of the world if you had 1K to splash out anyway. She even left you a note telling you! And the next night, she wanted to go with you again. Ive absolutely no doubts you could have gotten her for half price that night if you had of worked it correctly.
Sorry, but this report is being very harsh on her, especially as you have named her too. Ive been robbed plenty of times to know that this is not the mark of a thief. They wouldnt even look you in the eye the next night, never mind offer to go again. You could have easily agreed to take her home and then beaten shit out of her in you pad. Which sensible thief is going to fall for that???
Sid[/QUOTE]
But she agreed to over-night, not short-time, right? :confused: It's not "obvious" he took her "very early", he didn't say, right?
Anyway, she wasn't so bad, another girl might have robbed him. His post is a useful warning. LOCK IT UP!!!
Bit on the pudgy side.
but tries hard. Real good, open to everything.
Number is available.
Wouldn't let me film her in the nude.
Hi Lust,
I think she looks cute. I will be in town on the 28th. Appreciate if you could PM me her contact. Promise to follow up with FR.
*Sorry but I did not pay for the private PM services. Wanted to. Anyone care to share what will appear on the credit card statement. My wife is always on the lookout on this due to my poor history ;) *
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[QUOTE=Harley Man]Just want to share my experience with you.
I took a girl called Zaya from Maggie's for over night. She agreed with 1k for one night. I was so tired and falled in sleep right after some actions. When I waked up around 3am, she was no where but left a few empty bottles from the mini bar. I was a little scared because I have my stuff everywhere in my room. Fortunately, she only took 1k plus 100 rmb for cab but left everything else in my room. I believe she searched everywhere because the money was in one of many pockets. She didn't take things like my passport, credit cards, expensive phones away. She was nice enough and left a short message saying " I am leaving now. I take 1000 plus 100 for cab from your packet. I will sms you ok. "
Next evening, I saw her in Maggies but she seemed not bothered at all. She asked me if I was still interested in taking her.
I ended up with another Zaya and took her to my room. Since I learned from the previous night, I locked up everything that may be interesting to this Zaya. I am sure she tried to do the same thing to escape in the middle of the night. I can tell because she opened the room door without unlocking the security chain. I purposely locked the security chain before we go to bed. I believe she searched around but couldn't find money so just stay until when I waked up.
So. Lock valuable stuff including money before go to bed and play safely.[/QUOTE]
IMHO:
Most girls will try to get out early if you take them early. They can pop back to Maggies or whereever in order to try to get a second customer. I can say 100% of the Mongolians or working girls are there to make their money fast, if not what will they be there for?
Having said that, I have a question for you; Did you negotiated for a "over night" or "one night" and told her that you want her to stay till morning?
If yes, it is for "overnight and you told her that you want her to stay till morning"; likely they will asked for more than 1000 if you take them early, If no, they have all rights to leave.
On the second girl, since she did not find any money, why would she try to leave? I don't understand?? May be she was trying to go out to get something? Rightfully, at that point she would wake you up and try to get her money before trying to leave.
IMHO: Rule of thumb; Always lock everything up if you are bringing girls back. Even if she is your regular.
Enjoy!
AG
[QUOTE=Harley Man]Just want to share my experience with you.
I took a girl called Zaya from Maggie's for over night. She agreed with 1k for one night. I was so tired and falled in sleep right after some actions. When I waked up around 3am, she was no where but left a few empty bottles from the mini bar. I was a little scared because I have my stuff everywhere in my room. Fortunately, she only took 1k plus 100 rmb for cab but left everything else in my room. I believe she searched everywhere because the money was in one of many pockets. She didn't take things like my passport, credit cards, expensive phones away. She was nice enough and left a short message saying " I am leaving now. I take 1000 plus 100 for cab from your packet. I will sms you ok. "
Next evening, I saw her in Maggies but she seemed not bothered at all. She asked me if I was still interested in taking her.
I ended up with another Zaya and took her to my room. Since I learned from the previous night, I locked up everything that may be interesting to this Zaya. I am sure she tried to do the same thing to escape in the middle of the night. I can tell because she opened the room door without unlocking the security chain. I purposely locked the security chain before we go to bed. I believe she searched around but couldn't find money so just stay until when I waked up.
So. Lock valuable stuff including money before go to bed and play safely.[/QUOTE]
Mate was this the Zaya who 'absconded' early after agreeing to all night?
If yes then I had a similar experience with her a month or so back.
She agreed at about 3am to ALL NIGHT for RMB1,000.
After fucking for an hour or so she decides she wants to leave because she must get up early in the morn.
I gave her RMB500 and booted her arse out.
It is TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE for the girl to change her mind after agreeing to a deal and expecting full payment.
If this is the girl then she should be 'outed' and fellows mongers warned.
BUT
For fucks sake - Rule #1 as AG said - lock everything up - if you do not you are begging to be robbed.
A FOOL and his money are soon parted.
[QUOTE=SidTheSexist]Sorry, but this report is being very harsh on her, especially as you have named her too.[/QUOTE]I agree with Sid that Harley Man was not "robbed", but I will say he was "ripped-off". Harley Man state in his post that she agreed to stay all night for 1000 RMB. A reasonable price, even if it was early take out from Maggie's. She ended up getting paid 1100 RMB for short time when the going rate for short time is from 600 - 800 RMB. Leaving a note makes things a little better (did she put her mobile number on it?), but taking 100 RMB extra "taxi money" is out of line in my book unless Harley Man was staying out by the airport.
Since she made more than the going rate the first time I am not surprised she offered to go with him again. Plus, as Sid points out, he proved to her that he was not crazy. Girls would much rather go with a guy they know not to be crazy for a repeat then risk taking someone new and a potential pervert. I think he was right to turn her down as everything else aside she was dishonest.
Lesson here is - lock up your stuff. After you do the deed if the girl seems restless tell her if she wants to leave early (after committing to all night) she can go, but you will not pay her the full amount. Don't try to force her to say if she does not want to as you will not get anything out of it and just be looking over your shoulder all night. Certainly don't offer to pay her more money to stay - you have already closed the deal for a specified price.
Another good point that Sid makes is that the regular girls will almost certainly take less money for the 2nd and successive nights should you choose to take them. They know that "a bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush". Now the young, new, or very popular girls will probably not lower their price for you the 2nd time, but I have found that taking a girl a 2nd or 3rd time almost always leads to better performance on her part. She is more relaxed and knows what to expect from you, and you know what to expect from her. Watch out though - if you take the same Mongolian girl several times, say every night when you are in town for a week, you might get elevated to "boy friend" status. Along with this come some perks - true GFE and rock bottom prices, but at the same time word will get out that you are her boy friend. Her friends become your friends, and her enemies become your enemies. They will remember this even if you go away 6 months and then come back. Trust me, I have been there.
No matter what they say, some girls will simply not stay all night. Some have family/kids here in Beijing and need to get home (a lot more than you think). Others cannot resist the call of Maggie's and 1 more potential customer that night. Still others want to take their new earned money back to the bar and spend it on drinks. I have had a girl tell me straight up that once finished she will make up an excuse after committing to all night, like "my girlfriend called and needs my help" just to get out of the room. She said the guys expect to do her all night long if she stays, and she can't get any sleep. Needless to say, I have never taken her again after that, and have made it clear to anyone who has asked me about her that she is only good for short time, no matter what she says.
Sammy
Sorry I was too held up and had to delay my trip report till now.
My trip was 2 weeks ago. It is nice to meet up with Sammy T at Maggies and ISG friend Mock-A-Bee was kind enough to make this trip together, who again was kind enough to show me around.
Maggies....What can I report? I am sure whatever needed to know about Maggies was well covered by members of the board who are here in Beijing. Except that interesting enough; I did not pick up any working girls from there!
On the first night, when I was with MAB, I was told the rules of the house; Those girls wearing a tag that shows they are waitress, bar-tenders work for the bar. They are good to chat with, you buy them drinks, they make the commission. BUT they do not go out with you! If they do, and the management found out, they get fired. Those girls that don't work for the Bar will out with you, but if you are not interested in bringing them out, don't buy them drinks and chat up with them, cause if you do, they will try to convince you to take them out!
I look around, as it was dam early! 9pm! Obviously its too early for a take out. I landed chatting up with a Waitress buying a few drinks. At this point, Our Man; Sammy showed up! He, who spotted MAB (old friends), came and immediate took me in; this poor dieing soul who was barking up the wrong wall.... (No just joking back to the real stuff....) We introduce each other. I continue chatting up with this waitress of mine and the conversation had leaded us into this talk about her going to Shanghai to find work in the bar. In which I had “kindly” offered her B&B (Bed and Breakfast) while she comes to Shanghai! (Of course I’ll have her for Breakfast on my Bed!.... hmhmhmhahaha!!!! “Evil laugher”) I think it is true that they are not allowed to sleep with the customer or at least not during work hours??? Why I said so? She reminded me that she only get off work at 4:30am. We continued chatting for a while exchanged cell#, breaking off only when MAB came to get me to join Sammy at his private booth. Before we parted she told me that she will call me later. At that point, I thought she was referring to arrangement to meet in Shanghai!
I must say, Sammy was more than accommodating, he, on seeing that I was empty handed, went off to pulled some girls to join us in the booth and encourage them to chat with me. Well… Sammy if you are reading these Thanks! However I was not in the naughty mood that night. I sent two of those girls off and Sammy started asking me: what king of girls you like?” I told him not to worry…. I am no newbie; I’ll get my girl if I want to. At 1am I left Maggies with MAB heading back to my Hotel.
Here is the strange part; at 4am I received a call from my little waitress telling me that she is off work in half an hour and asked me whether I would like to have something to eat, she will bring it over. Of course earlier on, she had asked and I had told her which hotel and room number I was staying in. I do not get to bed early but I don’t really eat in the middle of the night so I told her no, I do not want anything. She said, “See you later!” and hung up. At 4.45am… she was at my door. I was puzzled totally as I was “educated by MAB that they are not to sleep with customer. I was wondering what this lady wants with me? There were no negotiations of any kind. She got in, started asking for a shower, came back out with Bathroom robe and went straight to bed asking me to join her, exclaiming “Why are you not in bed at this time?” At this point I cannot hold it back longer but to ask her, “What you want me to do? I did not agree to buy any service from you… what are you doing here and naked under my blanket?” She answered; “Must two good friends sleeping together naked on the same bed have sex? Come, all I need is some loving care from man; it’s been over one year since I left my BF that I have a shoulder to lean on to sleep.” With that, I was more comfortable and went to bed with her.
I know a lot of you guys will start saying that I am bullshitting but that night, although I was naked with her on bed, I did not fxxk her. As a regular monger, I don’t have to fxxk every girl that sleeps on my bed do I? She woke up at about 12pm saw me working on my computer; (I don’t sleep a lot). Asked me for the time, on knowing the time, she said she got to leave because she has to arrange for her trip. (I was wondering what trip?). She left my hotel at 1300 after washing up. She did not ask for money, but just said “If I don’t see you tonight, I’ll call you when I am in Shanghai.” At this point she left me wondering; what’s the deal?
To be continued……
AG
I have recently been going to the Cafe Del Mar near the Lido hotel. You go out the main lobby door and turn right. Cafe Del Mar will be on the right had of the street in the little shopping center. If you get to the traffic light you have gone too far.
They have a nice little setup there. First, the draft beer is only 10 RMB all night long (unlike the 40 RMB draft beer at the Lido). After around 7 pm there will be Chinese girls hanging around to drink with you, and they are all on the game. You can tell them apart from the wait staff as the wait staff all wear the same shirt. If it is early and there are not any girls there you can tell the bartender that you want a "massage" and they will call some girls in. It takes about 5 minutes for them to start showing up. In the basement they have a "VIP" area where you will find several individual "massage rooms". Each has a bed and a sliding door which offers a decent amount of privacy. You can take one of the girls from upstairs down to the basement for a "massage", or even take them out of the bar all night. In each case you give the bar 200 RMB, and you negotiate separately with the girl for her service. I negotiated a hj from 2 girls for a total of 400 RMB (the house did not charge me that night), and a simple massage with bj for 200 RMB to the house and 300 RMB to the girl (I know, a little high, but I was in research mode).
I have seen some Mongolian girls in there, but only once in a blue moon. The bar certainly does not run them out when the do come in. I have taken Mongolian girls from The Pig to Cafe Del Mar for a drink, but I have not yet tried to then take her down to the basement. I am sure the bar would not care as long as they got their 200 RMB. This might be a good alternative for you guys that otherwise have no place to take a girl.
Since you have to pay the house to use the room the prices are a little higher than the if you went to one of the rub-and-tug shops directly across from the Lido (there you would pay 200 RMB total for a hand job only), but it is a much better atmosphere and more services are available (depending on the girl). In addition, the bar has recently been black-listed by the US Embassy so the construction works cannot go there anymore. Something about drugs, which the bar denies. I love going to the Pig, and am happy to buy a beer for just about any other American I come across, but sometimes the young, brash construction workers who hang out at The Pig are a bit too much to take. After the Pig starts to fill up it is nice to have someplace else in the area to escape.
Speaking of The Pig, is it 5 o'clock yet?
Happy Hunting!
Sammy
Its funny while I am writting my second day report and was mentioning about Pigs, when I saw Sammy posted about Pig here....:D:D
Day two …. Or shall I say; Night two?
Met up with MAB again and headed out to PIG. It’s a long ride there but we got there. We got our drinks and I was immediately surprise by the slight of so many girls in a small little place! I guess there is no place in Shanghai compared to this. Even the famous Manhattan Bar on TRL, Shanghai is a far cry from t e PIG. There are lots of Mongolians and Chinese Pros. Upon eye to eye contact, they will approach you for a drink. (I guess the system is the same, these girls will get a commission out of the drinks). MAB and I chatted up with two Chinese girls. Negotiation time; we are surprise they asked for 1500 – ST, We told them they are fxxking crazy! They started giving us the crap about they working there part time, they need to pay bar fines to get out, blah blah blah… yah right! Further negotiation brought us to 1000 for my girl and 1200 for MAB girl. That was 1 hour later. Seeing that the negotiation is getting nowhere, we call it quit. I was told that Mongolian is between 600 – 800 for ST and a little less for Chinese. (Courtesy of good ISG members on Beijing Board, efforts appreciated). The girls wouldn’t let us go as they were giving us all sort of excuse that they were sitting with us for over an hour. I nicely told them that that was 2 two drinks each for them totaling up 24RMB on Commission for them. They were a little surprised but continued to pester us to bring them out. Not wanting to be held back any longer, I gave my girl a 50 RMB, stood up and left. MAB on seeing that, he tips his girl too and we headed out. Of course we don’t need to tip them but I don’t like to feeling of girls pestering me. I would like to apologize to members here who think I am spoiling the market.
Leaving PIG, we headed out to Hollywood to check out the Russian chicks. Advice needed here: The entrance fee, I was told that it includes one drink or does it not? MAB told me that the waiters at the entrance will take away the coupon and not let you have the free drink if you are not the regular there. We asked likewise but they said there is no free drink and just snatch away our coupon. But if there is no free drink, why do we even bother to pay and get a coupon? Just pay and enter! Anyways… what the hell… not going to kick up a fuss over a 40RMB drink. But I am just curious to know.
Once in Hollywood, we were in little Russia! Scouted around, there are some pretty nice ones and a lot of Fat or Old or Ugly or All of three . I think the main problem here is communication; the nice one of my type all does not speak enough English! Stupid me… I do not speak Russian. Should had beef up my Russian when I had that Russian GF back than! Again after 30 mins, we gave up! But its nice to finally made it into Hollywood after my first 2 attempts failed. In all my previous trip I’d ended up been hijacked outside Hollywood, by Russian girls going to work, while I was walking towards Hollywood. (Had reported that previously).
Once again, we were on the street walking towards Maggies. Made it in at around 22:30, it’s a Thursday night, the place is half filled. My little waitress came to me on the slight of me entering the bar. Gave me this strange grin in her face and said “Its all done!” Again she left me wondering “What the Fxxk is she talking about?????”
Chatted up with a couple of Mongolians, brought a few drinks here and there just enjoy the chat with a couple potentials take outs. Got Hungry, had a Hotdog at the Counter near the Entrance of Maggies. Saw a number of fresh girls coming to “work”. Its 00:30 MAB left as he had a long day. I return back inside chatted with one of the previous Mongolian girl, strike a deal at 700 for ST. Headed back to hotel. I will spare the details for the deed.
Personal Details
Name is Winnie or Wendy or some fxxking name that I did not catch… must be the Hot Dog! (not the Alcohol!)
Breast Size: 38C bra size (checked it while she was in the showers).
GFE rate: 7/10
Looks: 7/10
About: 168m
Weight: 50 – 55KG
Hair: Long and Black
Language: English – good, Chinese – Sucks
Others: BJ – 5/10, Sex – 5/10, She must be rushing to get back to Maggies for second customer!
Finished off at around 3:30, gave her 700 + 50 for Taxi (Although she pester me for more, sorry … not that great service, so I told her she should be lucky I even gave her the cab fare!)
End of Part two…. To be continued
AG
[QUOTE=Sammy_T] I love going to the Pig, and am happy to buy a beer for just about any other American I come across, but sometimes the young, brash construction workers who hang out at The Pig are a bit too much to take. After the Pig starts to fill up it is nice to have someplace else in the area to escape.
Speaking of The Pig, is it 5 o'clock yet?
Happy Hunting!
Sammy[/QUOTE]
What about buying a beer for your Australian mates?
Part 3 and final part.
The Mongolian left at 3:30 so I thought I should take some rest. Guess what? At 4am, I received a call from my little waitress; she said that she will come over in 30 mins. Now I was thinking… shit! Am I going to be stuck to this one or what? If she get down to Shanghai, looks like she is never going to leave??? I decided to state it clear to her tonight.
She arrived at around 4:50 and did the same thing as what she does the night before. But this time, I made my move, I ask her: “You are a nice girl and I like you, but can I know what you want from me? Let’s be direct!” Her answer was; “Nothing! I just found that you are a nice guy, I felt safe with you, I’ll will take up your offer for a Bed when I am going down next week to look for a Job, I find a job there, all I need from you is to temporary put me up till I find a place to stay. You are a good friend to me.” I was still not convince so I further asked her: “I think this is a bit crazy… but we only know each other less than 48 hours, how can you say we are good friends, how can you trust me?” Her answer: “Because you did not took advantage of me last night!” My next question: “What if I did take advantage of you?” Her answer: “Consider it as advance payment for Shanghai” With that, we went off the sleep till we got up at 1000 she left for home while I headed to the airport. Yes, yes, I did not fxxk her again! This is because I am still suspicious of her.
This is not the end of the chapter!
When I was back in Shanghai, I received a text message from her that she will be arriving Shanghai the next day and hope that I have my bed ready. She got into town, got into my house, got onto my bed and this time I knew for sure she was not lying about payback with her body for taking her in. I will cut the story short on what happened in Shanghai and post it separately in Shanghai thread, and yes I finally decided and fxxk her in Shanghai! For this case, I am not sure shall I classify her as freebie or paybie as I did put her up in Shanghai for 2 nights.
Enjoy!
AG
I nearly always seem to have trouble with long-time arrangements. Usually, they want to get up early and leave quickly. Sometimes the girl is not as good as I had hoped and I wish I had only agreed to short-time.
I think it is always better to negotiate for short-time only. If the girl is great in the room, very girlfriendly and good sex, then you can offer to give her extra money to stay the night.
[QUOTE=SidTheSexist]This is unjust IMO. You obviously took her from maggies very early, if you then fell asleep and woke up at only 3am. Yikes, I usually dont even get to Maggies till this time. She had every right to walk out on you. You had agreed to pay her the 1K, and taking an extra 100rmb (even though wrong of her) is surely not the end of the world if you had 1K to splash out anyway. She even left you a note telling you! And the next night, she wanted to go with you again. Ive absolutely no doubts you could have gotten her for half price that night if you had of worked it correctly.
Sorry, but this report is being very harsh on her, especially as you have named her too. Ive been robbed plenty of times to know that this is not the mark of a thief. They wouldnt even look you in the eye the next night, never mind offer to go again. You could have easily agreed to take her home and then beaten shit out of her in you pad. Which sensible thief is going to fall for that?
Sid[/QUOTE]It is about 5 mins drive from Maggies to my hotel. I took her to my room around 2am. She agreed 800 for one hour but willing to stay for overnight with 1000. She agreed to stay until 6am or later in the morning. I don't mean to blame anyone but just want to share the experience with you guys - lock up your valuable stuff. You never know what could happen. Since there are so many Zaya in Maggies, I don't think putting her name here will make anything different to her.
AG
Definitely no free drink at Hollywood with your 40RMB entrance fee.
Now doesn't that place just have the coldest and weirdest atmosphere for a bar full of hookers you ever seen?
It is primarily aimed at Chinese customers - make no mistake about that - non-Chinese are tolerated but certainly not warmly welcomed by either management OR the hookers.
Many Russians, quite a few Uzbeks, some Chinese, some Mongolians, the odd Korean, quite a smorgasboard of nationalities in terms of providers.
BUT
The 'Terms of Engagement' are quite definitive here:
1. Short time only - 1 shot RMB800
2. No kissing
3. No pictures
YES YES YES - I know many have negotiated variations to this - but as a GENERAL RULE these are the terms that most girls will ask / demand.
Why is it aimed at Chinese customers - simnple - they DO NOT argue over price and they are finished fucking in about 2 mins flat and the girlie gets back for a second or third 'sucker' each night.
Still Billy goes there most nights he is in Beijing - just love looking at the blonde Russians - and I try toi get best deal I can out of whoever I choose.
Footnote: Watch your change here - change delivery after buying drink is conveniently delayed / forgotten about by bartenders if they can.
I went Hollywood on Monday night briefly, so my surprise, I saw many familiar faces even though I haven't been there for almost 7 months. I guess not much new blood coming from USSR and the current selection is as good as previous times. After circled around several times, I spotted a 22 yr old Russian baby called Svetlena with good figure and friendly attitude. Once agree at 800rmb (not much room for negotiation), we went back to my hotel. Oh, boy she has got real nice body with a pair of beautifully hung boobs and shapely ass. One drawback, she had pretty bad breath from smoking (a common defects in Russian girls in Hollywood). Throughout the act, she was accomodating and slow to warm up and refuse to kiss. However, she wanted cuddle after I came but I declined as I feel she wasn't too engaging enough at the beginnning. Anyhow, her nice body and ok attitude made up for the worth.
[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]AG
Definitely no free drink at Hollywood with your 40RMB entrance fee.
Now doesn't that place just have the coldest and weirdest atmosphere for a bar full of hookers you ever seen?
It is primarily aimed at Chinese customers - make no mistake about that - non-Chinese are tolerated but certainly not warmly welcomed by either management OR the hookers.
Many Russians, quite a few Uzbeks, some Chinese, some Mongolians, the odd Korean, quite a smorgasboard of nationalities in terms of providers.
BUT
The 'Terms of Engagement' are quite definitive here:
1. Short time only - 1 shot RMB800
2. No kissing
3. No pictures
YES YES YES - I know many have negotiated variations to this - but as a GENERAL RULE these are the terms that most girls will ask / demand.
Why is it aimed at Chinese customers - simnple - they DO NOT argue over price and they are finished fucking in about 2 mins flat and the girlie gets back for a second or third 'sucker' each night.
Still Billy goes there most nights he is in Beijing - just love looking at the blonde Russians - and I try toi get best deal I can out of whoever I choose.
[/QUOTE]
Thanks Billy for these great tips!
I had found these to be very true for at least those two Russians that on both accassions "hijacked" me on my previous trip, outside Hollywood.
[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]
Footnote: Watch your change here - change delivery after buying drink is conveniently delayed / forgotten about by bartenders if they can.[/QUOTE]
Yes, MAB told me this. We actually prepared small change and paid the exect amount when he delivered our drinks. Not that we are cheap but I think this sort of behaviour is acting like thieves and should not be courage. If he ask for a tip or deliver the drinks with a smile, I am sure we are more willing to ask him to keep the change.
Unfortunately my schedule was too tight to PM you and perhaps meet up with you in my last few trips. But I am sure I would love to hang out for a drink with you. Till next time!
Enjoy!
AG
Oh... just in case you guys are wondering what's the name of the "Little Waitress" from Maggies, that I had as freebie; Sorry, I promised her not to tell anyone that she came to my Hotel after work. This is because after the trip to Shanghai, she returned to Beijing and is still working there till End of April. If she got fired by the manangement, she will get a lot of salary deductions (Bar fines).
A fellow member here just asked me over MSN; why I keep referring her as "Little Waitress" instead of naming her.
Enjoy!
AG
This week in Beijing.
I was exploring the Hollywwod a couple of nights ago (11:00pm) and I can confirm it was a "cold" environment and girls were mixed and nothing to bring back home. I just chatted to Dely (UZB) and Maya? (MON) and they both asked for 800 ST and 2500 ST. Bargained only on LT but then left them in and I went back to the hotel as I was not in the right mood.
I'm staying at Park Plaza hotel in Jinbao road (10 min taxy to Ritan Park) and I've tested the in-house massage service as it's a very nice 4 star hotel. I went to the health centre and asked for a massage and I kindly asked for a "relaxing and pleasuring ending" and the lady asked me "go to the room" "go to the room speak there". Finally I got my good oil-massage by a very shy young lady and she was happy to provide the "HJ" after seeing the 200 RMB for her. Nice experience.
P.S. :
I wanna try HRC or Maggie's tonight but I'd like to have a beer-mate to make the right choice for the night. Someone wants to helping me in choosing the right chick? I'd appreciate it.
Bye
Beijing girls want 800 ST and 2500 LT? That really sucks!
Hi Guys,
Just to clarify. I did not mean to come across as an all out flame. I just thought there were a feew discrepencies in Harleys post that needed questioning. Its fine to warn fellow mongers about potential traps and rip off girls, but sometimes it can be your own stupidity that leads you to believe you were done; when actually you werent. Now that Harley has cleared a few grey areas, it does appear that she was acting rather out of turn on this occassion. We still dont know if he had already given her the money upfront or whether she took it from his pockets? If it was the latter, then this is out of hand. But had she already received the 1K and only took a sly 100, then although still not on, its maybe not quite as bad as helping herself to an undeserved 1K. "Taxi money" is the biggest rip off going. 100rmb would get you from Guo Mao, to the Airport. None of the Girls live this far away. I would rather they just asked for a tip than this stupid Taxi money bullshit. Whats 20rmb from the 1K you've just paid?? Dont say, "a lot to them."
To conclude, I do agree with the overall message which is keep your valuables out of site and that the girls can be very well known for taking the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url]. However, without condoning the "grab and run" behaviour, when outlining an individual case, lets just take a look at all the factors, before jumping to general conclusions.
Peace :D
Sid
PS May hols approaching. Anyone staying in town?
[QUOTE=Ace Gallant]Thanks Billy for these great tips!
Unfortunately my schedule was too tight to PM you and perhaps meet up with you in my last few trips. But I am sure I would love to hang out for a drink with you. Till next time!
Enjoy!
AG[/QUOTE]
AG
I am not a Beijingite - I actually live in Australia - but am lucky enough to get to Beijing 5 or 6 times each year - I have been coming here for 10 years - I am far from the most knowledgeable guy on the Beijing scene but I have gained a fair amount of experience in that time.
I will actually be in Shanghai May 3 to 7 - will be in Manhattan Bar on Thuir night May 3 - maybe we can catch up whilst I am there.
[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]AG
I will actually be in Shanghai May 3 to 7 - will be in Manhattan Bar on Thuir night May 3 - maybe we can catch up whilst I am there.[/QUOTE]
Darn.... Its long holidays and I am returning to States during that time. Sorry miss you this trip... next time ok?
Just a little on Shanghai since you are on this subject; Last night we were out mongering and we had found that a lot of nice girls, who had made their money before, had left for home early for this holiday season. I am referring to the Bars in TRL, the girls in BBSs, the KTV too!
Enjoy!
AG
[QUOTE=Santa]Beijing girls want 800 ST and 2500 LT? That really sucks![/QUOTE]
Santa that has been the going rate for the Ruskies in Beijing for several years - they are not the easiest people in the world to negotiate with - especially out of Hollywood.
Regularly there are a few working Hard Rock - these girls are all 'freelancers' where most of the Hollywood girls are working for pimps - the Hard Rock girls can and will bend a bit if negotiations are done sensibly.
I have found that rather than try to 'discount' price - try to get them to 'up' what they deliver slightly for same money.
They will want RMB800 for ST which will not include kissing - offer them RMB800 with kissing - or even RMB800 for 2 shots - trust me both these offers have been accepted on several occasions from the Russians inside Hard Rock - but I only ever once got 1 Russian out of Hollywood to kiss and allow pics - even video of the blow job - 18yo Lola - pics attached - just be nice - negotiate - you mighht get a surprise.
[QUOTE=Ace Gallant]Darn.... Its long holidays and I am returning to States during that time. Sorry miss you this trip... next time ok?
Just a little on Shanghai since you are on this subject; Last night we were out mongering and we had found that a lot of nice girls, who had made their money before, had left for home early for this holiday season. I am referring to the Bars in TRL, the girls in BBSs, the KTV too!
Enjoy!
AG[/QUOTE]
Thanks mate - I am sure I can still find a 'mattress worker' or 2 that will occupy my time.
Last time I went to Beijing, a few years ago, I was shocked by the high prices. I went to Maggies, Hollywood, Hard Rock Cafe and Pig, didn,t like any of them. Some of the girls were ok but I refused to pay their prices. I did manage to find a few bbs girls that were ok, but it took many many hours of searching, and the service was only so so. I also found a nice girlfriend, but I ran away when she became too clingy.
I did post, but I did not want to be critical. I think Beijing is a great city with lots of interesting places to visit and a good nightlife. However, I don't think it's a good mongering town, unless you have lots of money to spend and don't mind spending it.
The first time I went to Beijing was 25 years ago. I have since been there several times.
Peroxide blonds from Russia are not part of my fantasy.
[QUOTE=Santa]Last time I went to Beijing, a few years ago, I was shocked by the high prices. I went to Maggies, Hollywood, Hard Rock Cafe and Pig, didn,t like any of them. Some of the girls were ok but I refused to pay their prices. I did manage to find a few bbs girls that were ok, but it took many many hours of searching and the service was only so so. I also found a nice girlfriend, but I ran away when she became too clingy.
I did post, but I did not want to be critical. I think Beijing is a great city with lots of interesting places to visit and a good nightlife. However, I don't think it's a good mongering town, unless you have lots of money to spend and don't mind spending it.
The first time I went to Beijing was 25 years ago. I have since been there several times.
Peroxide blonds from Russia are not part of my fantasy.[/QUOTE]
Santa all valid points - but different strokes for different folks.
I have been in China 5 to 8 times each year for last 10 years - I am not a BBS type of guy - I just love to get the girls back to my hotel room - shower them up nice and clean - and spend a few hours with them to 'savour' the experience.
RMB800 for 1 shot is high end for me also - but I now have a 'group' of Mongolian, Chinese, Uzbek girls in Beijing who will willingly come to my hotel during day / early evening for RMB800 for 3 hours - 3 shots - that is the ground rules I have laid out for them - all are fantastic providers or the get the boot.
LT or overnight from Maggies now costs RMB1,000 min - too much I think - but I am not one of the guys paying over the odds.
But yoiu either pay what is now the gooing rate - or you go home I alone - Billy never goes home alone.
Sounds like you are doing it right Bad Boy Billy. Good on ya mate. If I go to Beijing again Santa will buy you a pint.
The real problem with Beijing is the big spenders who fuck-up the market. I expect it will get even worse with the Olympics.
[QUOTE=Santa]Sounds like you are doing it right Bad Boy Billy. Good on ya Ozzie. If I go to Beijing again Santa will buy you a pint.
The real problem with Beijing is the big international spenders who fuck-up the market. I expect it will get even worse with the Olympics.[/QUOTE]
Yes those with way too much money do make it kinda difficult.
My daytime 'playmates' all work Maggies or Hard Rock - they tell me stories of what some of these guys pay them - UNBELIEVABLE.
In some cases - 100's of US $'s without any negotiation at all - it does make it a tad difficult for those who want some fun at a reasonable price.
Still we gotta soldier on right - treat the girls nice - pay a fair price - and in most cases you will get a great time.
[QUOTE=Maxmaxmax] Another Sauna: I've got to start writing down the names of these places. This one is on Guang Qu Lu. Just head east from the third ring and you'll get there in just a few minutes. It's huge and on the right. [/QUOTE]
Hi MaxMaxMax--no offense, and I'm never one to turn up my nose at great intel, but could I use your post to illustrate something that really bugs me? To wit: posting great adventures with inadequate "how to get there and do it myself" information.
So here's my advice to all: let's provide more and better location information. Check out my recent post here: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=588707[/url] for a sample: complete "how-to-get-there" and even a couple of pictures.
As an alternative, and possibly more practical possibility, consider firing up Google Earth, zoom in to the place, and once you are staring at the building from our eye-in-the-sky note the latitude and longitude and post it in your report.
I'm aware that in some circumstances it may be desirable to prevent the MIB from *easily* knowing the locations about which we post, but that can be handled on a case-by-case basis.
I remember an overweight and ageing mongolian lady telling me she charges 1500 rmb for short-time. Fucking unbelievable! Of course she negotiates down from there, but I'm sure some guys are happy to pay that and give a big tip.
I later met an Exxon executive at an english pub who had no idea about "where the pussy's at". I'm sure he would have been happy to pay.
I do not know if this is normal, but what I saw in HRC was pathetic. The girls were mostly ugly and even 4 whiskey-colas did not change that fact.
I came with an idea to pick up a Russian or Mongolian. 1 good Mongolian, big tits, good body, wearing striped shirt. I saw three guys approach her, but I guess she wanted too much - they all left her alone. There were 7 Russian girls in the place: 1 - 2/10 (looked like mamasan actually), 4 - 6/10, 1 - 7/10 and 1 - 8/10. 8/10 got picked up before i made a move, the 3 of 6/10 got themselves a bunch of Indian or Pakistani dudes, 1 6/10 and 2/10 continued to hang at the bar with typical Russian ***** faces - so sad, you want to give them money for not fucking them. The 7/10 stood by herself and I made a move. Name was Katherina from the City of Irkutsk, 23 y.o. Dressed in 1992 and forgot to change. Peasant hands. Everything was fine until she smiled: one of the front teeth was black. Spoke some English. I am a native Russian speaker, but never told her that. Announced 1000 ST, 2000 LT. I said thank you, I'm going to pass and went back to hotel empty handed.
I'm staying at Holiday Inn, Temple of Heaven. No action here at all, however I did go to the street next to the hotel where I saw a number of BBS. Most were closed, but one was open. Please note, I passed it a few times today and there were customers getting haircuts there. I figured out nobody will cut hair at 01:30 in the morning and went in. A so-so HJ cost me 200 - more than norm, but considering time. The girl was fat and ugly, but it still was better than to give a HJ to myself - I'm even uglier.
Good hunting!
[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]Thanks mate - I am sure I can still find a 'mattress worker' or 2 that will occupy my time.[/QUOTE]
Billy,
Good news for you.
I had just confirmed last night with several managers, Mama sans of KTV, Bars and BBSs that most of the girls had gone home this week and will be back to work next week. This is to catch the holiday crowd.
So ditch your dreams about doing those mattress worker!
Enjoy!
AG
[QUOTE=Silver Guy]This week in Beijing.
I was exploring the Hollywwod a couple of nights ago (11:00pm) and I can confirm it was a "cold" environment and girls were mixed and nothing to bring back home. I just chatted to Dely (UZB) and Maya? (MON) and they both asked for 800 ST and 2500 ST. Bargained only on LT but then left them in and I went back to the hotel as I was not in the right mood.
P.S. :
I wanna try HRC or Maggie's tonight but I'd like to have a beer-mate to make the right choice for the night. Someone wants to helping me in choosing the right chick? I'd appreciate it.
Bye[/QUOTE]
You don't really need a buddy at maggies, solo works very well in this establishments. I would suggest trying the Pig at Lido first. You will have to beat the women off with a bat. As for HRC, i typically don't like it very much for many reasons, main one is supply and demand, so if you see lots of punters and a few girls, having a buddy with you is of minimal use. Vica versa, you don't need a buddy.
As for Hollywood, i was at Hollywood last night and the girls are very aggressive - basically business is not so good and i assume over golden week it will get worst. Just remember there is no negotiation, you will have to fork out RM800 for ST - if that works out you can ask what the LT upgrade price is before she goes. If you try and negotiate they will think you are cheap and likely to rip them off, thus you will get crap service and they will ask for money up front.
The aggressive ones provide very good service, but they can be very business like and quick - the shy ones provide not so good service, but if you treat them nice will stay around longer. Make it clear you are not Russian or eastern European and walk around the bar until you see someone you like - and go for it. If you get a reject, don't worry - its not personal - normally its because the girl is being forced to turn up by her mama-san and does not really want any business that night - or she suspects you are Russian.
Update - I did a detailed check last night and i have to agree with an earlier post, the quality is not very good. I could not find any new nice Uzbeks and there is only a few nice Russians - one short blond bird with a massive exposed mid-rift was very nice, but she was selected rather early in the evening.
One auxiliary comment, my main thing is Chinese birds, but i always like having at least one regular Russian - i suppose to remind me what European women are like. As a result i like and get on rather well with the Uzbeks and reasonably well with the Russians, so i am definitely a russianphile. However saying this there is one thing about there girls which is rather unfortunate - they age very quickly. I use to have a model type regular about 3 years ago, i saw here again recently and she has not weathered very well. Still great body, but 3 years of this business has not been kind to her face. As a result i normally stay with the amateurs, even though the service level is not so good. They tend to not age as quickly.
Another comment, these girl remember everything they see – i did not recognise my regular from 3 years ago (combination of poor eye sight, poor lighting and the fact her face had aged) but she proceeded to tell me what i had been doing in Hollywood's for the last 2 years and had demanded to know why i had not approached her. (Lets ignore the fact she could of approached me?) Christ – i think i need to lay off Hollywood for a while. So let this be a lesson – if you go to somewhere like Hollywood all the girls know you and they remember everything you had done in previous visits – so if you treat a girl badly – all the other girls will know it.
[QUOTE=Gamma Ray 007]Hi MaxMaxMax--no offense, and I'm never one to turn up my nose at great intel, but could I use your post to illustrate something that really bugs me? To wit: posting great adventures with inadequate "how to get there and do it myself" information.
So here's my advice to all: let's provide more and better location information. Check out my recent post here: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=588707[/url] for a sample: complete "how-to-get-there" and even a couple of pictures.
As an alternative, and possibly more practical possibility, consider firing up Google Earth, zoom in to the place, and once you are staring at the building from our eye-in-the-sky note the latitude and longitude and post it in your report.
I'm aware that in some circumstances it may be desirable to prevent the MIB from *easily* knowing the locations about which we post, but that can be handled on a case-by-case basis.[/QUOTE]
GR007,
I am not flaming you but just my POV:
This is ISG, this is an open board, not everyone are writers here. It is very often; while out mongering, we forgot our cameras or the girls bang the shit out of us and we totally forgot what is the street name we had just returned from. :D
But to some sense you are right, there are calls for more informative posts here however, if the poster did not post sufficient information you can always post your questions. Which in turn you may get your answers from members that not neccessary is the original poster. This is what kept the board alive!
As for the newbies to posting a good report, I had highlighted it before in one of my post. Read it if you have time.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=514572&postcount=75[/url]
A true monger can be parachuted down into an unknown city and sniff out the pussies by himself.
Enjoy!
AG
I hope anyone who reads this board will strive to keep the 'gifts' in line! I saw many chumps dishing out 1000 - 2000 st to maggies girls. Jeez!! This is insane by any place in the planet - let alone prc!
Some tips -
1) If you take them early, then do a dinner or drink somewhere else. Like pick them from the Pig and go to a dumpling place. Get a little personal. Then back to the hotel/apt for a little fun time. Pay no more than 500 total. And make sure you go back to Mags or the Pig or wherever with them. Key is - develop a little BFE and you'll get alot more mileage and lower costs.
2) If you take them late (3am +) Then don't discuss any prices at all until you're back to the pad. Then , just undress and get in bed. They'll eventually bring it up and probably ask something crazy like 1500 or whatever. Thats fine. Just say, 'if you want to stay with me tonite, you're welcome'. 'but I will pay you xxx (300-600) plus breakfast in the morning if you're nice'. 'Otherwise, you're free to go and here's 50rmb for your taxi. 9 out of 10 they'll stay. If not - so what - you can go back to M's and find one that will.
Personally I prefer the late takes as opposed to the early ones. They are either hungry, already been paid at least once, a little drunk, tired or combination. So , if it's a girl I dont know, this is the safest and least risk way to check her out.
I know alot of you guys are coming from FAW's, stretches with only left-hand sally as your fun, padded expense accounts, etc -- but you don't need to raise the prices by stupid spending.
That's my 2rmb worth..
S.
Last year I took some girls in Wangfujing street. They hanged around at night and worked with a mamasan. I found some cute young slim girls (like 18/20 y.o.) and paid 500 RMB for ST. It was not a GFE but the girls tried to do a good job and had a good attitude. I will try again next month.
Is it the right price for this type of girls, or should I negotiate better?
I've been reading this thread, getting ready for my first trip to Beijing in July. But I have not seen the following issue addressed:
Suppose you take a Mongolian out of Maggies, say at 1PM, for LT (say, agreed until 9PM). After a night-time romp and then some sleep, is it standard to have another romp in the morning?
Thanks, Race
[QUOTE=Soujourn]
1) If you take them early, then do a dinner or drink somewhere else. Like pick them from the Pig and go to a dumpling place. Get a little personal. Then back to the hotel/apt for a little fun time. Pay no more than 500 total. And make sure you go back to Mags or the Pig or wherever with them. Key is - develop a little BFE and you'll get alot more mileage and lower costs.
S.[/QUOTE]S,
Thanks, this one is interesting. By early (given the dinner/drinks comment) do you mean 7PM-10PM? Take them for dinner, pay ST rate, might occupy 3 hours of their time and yet get them back to Maggies/Pig before midnight? This has the advantage of (a) avoiding late-night hotel trouble, and (b) still getting to bed early. Total cost: dinner plus ST (500 seems lower than I remember in other posts, am I wrong for early ST)? Do you negotiate this whole thing up front? "Let's get something to eat, then go back to my place for an hour?"
On a somewhat related note: what would 2-3 hours, 2 shots translate as?
NBG
[QUOTE=Race Track]I've been reading this thread, getting ready for my first trip to Beijing in July. But I have not seen the following issue addressed:
Suppose you take a Mongolian out of Maggies, say at 1PM, for LT (say, agreed until 9PM). After a night-time romp and then some sleep, is it standard to have another romp in the morning?
Thanks, Race[/QUOTE]
Absolutely - confirm it with her before closing the deal - DO NOT PAY UNTIL SHE IS READY TO LEAVE.
Make it clear to her - 1 or 2 pops tonight - another fuck in the morning before you leave - payment then.
If she does not agree - [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] her off and grab another one.
DO NOT RELENT BACK IN ROOM IF SHE ASKS FOR MONEY FIRST - NEVER PAY UPFRONT.
[QUOTE=El Frances]Last year I took some girls in Wangfujing street. They hanged around at night and worked with a mamasan. I found some cute young slim girls (like 18/20 y.o.) and paid 500 RMB for ST. It was not a GFE but the girls tried to do a good job and had a good attitude. I will try again next month.
Is it the right price for this type of girls, or should I negotiate better?[/QUOTE]
Sounds like you are doing a pretty good job - yes of course try to get the price down a bit if you can - but most of all ENJOY if this is what you are after.
Quck calculation:
2 x girls @ 500ea = RMB1,000
3 x girls @ 300ea = RMB900
Get the picture?
[QUOTE=Soujourn]I hope anyone who reads this board will strive to keep the 'gifts' in line! I saw many chumps dishing out 1000 - 2000 st to maggies girls. Jeez!! This is insane by any place in the planet - let alone prc!
S.[/QUOTE]
A Maggies regular who I have been 'doing' for 3 years now - and whom I trust implicitly - told me in March that the previous night some dumb ass guy just walked up to her and said "US$300 for 1 hour - take it or leave it".
Guess what she did?
Now how fucking stupid is that guy?
Remember - most of the girls will hit the Pig earliest at around 7 or so - this is what I mean by 'early'. After you know the girls and call direct - then 'early' could mean just about anything from noon on. BTW - Mongolian girls don't like butterflies too much - so if your started to seeing many girls differently, they'll eventually start to diss you. Put them on your side by developing a less sexual friendship with one or two. Then just clearly explain that you love sleeping with Mongolian girls and ask 'your friend' to help you find the good ones you can both trust. They respect more a man who is a good friend and relatively upfront about his lust. Once you get this kind of rapport, you'll be lucky to spend a night alone under any costs, and keeping them out of your room will be your biggest hassle.
[QUOTE=Soujourn] BTW - Mongolian girls don't like butterflies too much - so if your started to seeing many girls differently, they'll eventually start to diss you. [/QUOTE]
You hit the nail on the head Soujourn. When I lived in BJ I took a Mongolia one night and she ultimately became a freebie. That is until one day she found a pair of ladies shoes another girl had left in my apartment. She dropped me like a bad habit. Butterflies are definitely at the bottom of their list.
ES
I'm noticing a lot of the guys on the board here keep mentioning dinner plans with some of the local providers. I'd like to ask you guys how often you run across someone you know during these plans? And how do you introduce the person you're with? As far as I can tell the expat community is tightly knit, so it would seem easy to be caught out an about with one of the ladies. Certainly it's none of their business who you are with, but some of you must still share this concern. Any advice to offer?
Recently I was approach by girls outside Lufthansa shopping mall, 5 minutes walk towards the north of Hardrock cafe when I was there for "Marlboro"shopping.
I chat with them. Some dont speak english but 1-2 of them speak little english.
I ask them and come to know that they are the gang from "Sichuan". Anyone tried before and has any interesting story to share?
What is the price, compare to HRC? and is it safe to pick them on the street?
Pro Hunter,
In the past, I had some SW from the street in front of LH shopping mall and HRC. All my experience there is negative. They might charge you less than a HRC girl (e.g. 400 for ST), but the quality and / or attitude is low. Once I had a quite pretty one of about 20 years. But she was so horribly dry that event the condom broke. Not a nice imagination.
On the other hand, I had several girls from the HRC and was never really disappointed. The prices were somewhat higher, though (e.g. 800 for LT).
I also had once a girl from the Pig. She was really great.
From Maggies I also had a few, and the experiences were mixed. One agreed only to ST, and then when we wanted to start, she received (or pretended to receive?) a phone call from a "good customer". I.e. she told me that she has only limited time, because she needs to see him. I was so pissed off and was about to through her out. But then, she agreed to stay for 2 hours, which was enough for me. Then, her attitude and talent was not even so bad.
My next try is probably the Pig again.
Wonderer
Old timers on this board will remember Intransit's long-standing fornication with one of the industry's all-time greats: Kitty. If you don't know who Kitty is, go back into the 2003-2004 posts and look it up.
Anyway, Kitty is coming out of retirement, and as an old friend I got a preview. I can tell you that her skills are as fine as they have ever been. She is enthusiastic, talented, and intelligent, as appropriate and comfortable at your dinner table as in your bed, an excellent escort and far more than just a good lay.
She's around during May 1 for those of you with free time and looking for someone truly extraordinary. PM me for contact info.
[QUOTE=Pro Hunter]Recently I was approach by girls outside Lufthansa shopping mall, 5 minutes walk towards the north of Hardrock cafe when I was there for "Marlboro"shopping.
I chat with them. Some dont speak english but 1-2 of them speak little english.
I ask them and come to know that they are the gang from "Sichuan". Anyone tried before and has any interesting story to share?
What is the price, compare to HRC? and is it safe to pick them on the street?[/QUOTE]
Mate the 'price' is whatever you can negotiate.
I have had double headers off the street for RMB300 each - these girls are all freelancers and free to charge whatever the 2 of you agree on.
Go for it - it is little money - if the experience is no good what have you lost?
I’M going to be in Beijing the week of May 20th, after coming from Japan. I heard its pretty rough in Tokyo for foreigners to find some action. I have never been to China before and this is my first time in BJ, so I don’t have much information to share with you. I’ve done some in-depth research reading through this message board, and I read the "Beginners Guide", which I’m very grateful for. I’m just looking to have a good time, and want to see if anybody wants to meet up while they are mongering.
I was wrong, I will be in BJ the week preceding May 20th, I leave on the 20th.
[QUOTE=Silentman]I’M going to be in Beijing the week of May 20th, after coming from Japan. I heard its pretty rough in Tokyo for foreigners to find some action. I have never been to China before and this is my first time in BJ, so I don’t have much information to share with you. I’ve done some in-depth research reading through this message board, and I read the "Beginners Guide", which I’m very grateful for. I’m just looking to have a good time, and want to see if anybody wants to meet up while they are mongering.[/QUOTE]
Good Lord, if you are coming from Japan and have no issue in the land of the rising sun, you will find Beijing a breeze. It will take only a few nights to assemble a brevy of young female friends if you follow the beginners guide.
Flying into BJ on May 2nd for short visit. Did not realize that it is a holiday. Can anyone tell me if the young ladies will be gone. Or will they be in greater demand due to the holidays?
[QUOTE=Johnthomas0519]Flying into BJ on May 2nd for short visit. Did not realize that it is a holiday. Can anyone tell me if the young ladies will be gone. Or will they be in greater demand due to the holidays?[/QUOTE]
Things are generally "quieter" since many head home to be with their families. What you'll find are the die-hard pros left
[QUOTE=Johnthomas0519]Flying into BJ on May 2nd for short visit. Did not realize that it is a holiday. Can anyone tell me if the young ladies will be gone. Or will they be in greater demand due to the holidays?[/QUOTE]
Based on my observations yesterday The Pig at Lido had a good supply of mongolians - i must admit i did not speak to any Chinese so the number of them may have been down. As i am in my "Russian" phase right now (I go though this each 2 months for about a week) Hollywood had about 50 girls last night - which is down, but the number of Chinese customers was dramatically down. At 9pm there were only two Chinese customers - by 10pm this had grown to about 20. So i would suggest that these two venues will be ok over the holiday period. Any other comment i could make would only be a guess, so i will refrain. However i will ask my regular Chinese friend this evening what she thinks - but as she is not a professional i will probably not get any good info about supply over the Golden Week from her.
My careful investigation of Hollywood last night has caused me to re-assess my last posting on this venue, where i indicated there were not many nice looking girls.
Between 9pm and 10pm all the girls who work this place will arrive, and because of the low number of customers almost all are present as a group during this period. Thus i was able to observe and speak to an average sample, and i can say their are some very nice ones working.
Of the Russians on the entrance side of the bar i observed 1 very young and cute thing with frizzy blond hair - which actually looked natural. She was tall and thin and while not model quality, was almost their. Her two friends were also very nice, as were at least another 3 girls. On the other side of the bar i observed at least 3 almost model quality Russian girls.
The uzbecs had a good supply of less than attractive girls, but there was one tall, blond model type and at least 4 other very nice. One of these girls had the most beutiful face i have seen for a while, she was also taken out by 9:30pm and was the only girl i saw who got any business before 10pm.
In summary i would say there was a nice mix. I suspect when business is good the good looking girls go quickly, so if you turn up after 10pm on such a night you will not see a good selection.
As Golden week is normally very quiet at Hollywood i would suggest this is a good time to drop by - before 10pm if you wish to see the full range.
Answer to your question concerning going home - PRC gets about 2-3 week long holidays - everyone tries to go home for these periods if possible as its the only chance they get of seeing their mothers, fathers, etc. Thus the girls and local mongers go home if possible. The issue is that you can get a lot of tourists in town, the police and security makes it hard for the providers and the guys who normally go home in china target a different, lower cost, girl than the laowai's - so its normally not a great time for mongering if you are a laowai looking for Chinese providers. But you can still be serviced if the price is right - i just suspect the low cost options are less - but this is my opinion and other may disagree.
[QUOTE=Firebird]Things are generally "quieter" since many head home to be with their families. What you'll find are the die-hard pros left[/QUOTE]This is Labour Day, not Chinese New Year. Why would they go home to be with family? Are all the mongers gone to be with families also.
That might improve my odds :)
[QUOTE=Sebastian My]Based no my observations yesterday The Pig at Lido had a good supply of mongolians - i must admit i did not speak to any Chinese so the number of them may have been down. As i am in my ....
As Golden week is normally very quiet at Hollywood i would suggest this is a good time to drop by - before 10pm if you wish to see the full range.[/QUOTE]Thanks to last two posts. Maybe I'll run into you guys. Hope so since i could use some pointers. You will recognize me since I will be completely jet-lagged out.
[QUOTE=Nakatani]I'm noticing a lot of the guys on the board here keep mentioning dinner plans with some of the local providers. I'd like to ask you guys how often you run across someone you know during these plans? And how do you introduce the person you're with? As far as I can tell the expat community is tightly knit, so it would seem easy to be caught out an about with one of the ladies. Certainly it's none of their business who you are with, but some of you must still share this concern. Any advice to offer?[/QUOTE]
If you have a real job here, you can be certain that you will be seen by someone. I am convinced that I cannot go anywhere without having someone report to my Taiwanese wife that they saw me, even when all I am doing is shopping or going to the bank. I can't tell you how many times I have heard a story about how so and so was seen in the elevator of his building, out to dinner, or at Maggies etc. If you are dumb enough to take one home, you can be certain the entire building and everyone who knows anyone in the building will know. I have heard about so many of my friends from my Ayi, who heard it from another Ayi, who heard it from a security guard.
So, if you want to get laid, do it discretely in a sauna, and try not to get seen going in or out. Even then, you are taking a chance. Or just wait till you can get out of town, where the odds are better.
Those of us who have professional reputations to uphold must be careful. BTW, if you have not noticed, Maggies is a popular drop in destination for expats with wives and friends in tow. Show them the freak show, and when they see you there, you bet the wives are talking.
Last week I went to a sauna near the Xibahe bus stop. I forget the name, but one the outside of the building it says KTV and has Korean lettering, the only one in the area. Oddly enough there's a police station right by there.
I went in for the sauna, and chatted with the attendant for a while. There aren't a lot of foreigners around Xibahe so it was kind of new for them. The guy says he loves foreigners, but I imagine he loves all foreigners. Did a quick shower and asked my "helper" for a massage. Took him a few minutes to understand what I meant when I asked for a "terbie" (special) massage.
At that point he told me I had to go to the 3rd floor and I had to buy some clothes. I had my choice of the silk pajamas or paper. If my local gf didn't come over all the time I would have bought the silk ones and used them at a lot of places, but seeing as I know if she saw them I'd be busted, I went for paper. I think it was 5 kuai.
Went up to the 3rd floor, I asked for a line up, but the guy said no. He said he'd send in a good girl and if I didn't like her I could change. I might have gotten a line up if I went later, but it was at about 3:30 in the afternoon. The girl came in and she was pretty cute so I decided to keep her. About mid 20's, nice ass, fairly thin, but not sick looking. Her tits were a little small, but ok.
I went for the 80 minute massage and fuck. It started with an oil massage, she started on my back, payed a lot of attention to my ass. Later she slid under me and fingered my ass. She asked first, which was nice, and I don't mind. She did a little rimming too, good thing I washed up earlier. Flipped me over, massaged me and eventually got to my dick. Then a little tit fucking, followed by bbj then capped me for some fs. She'd be worth a repeat if I could remember her number.
After I finished she stuck around and continued to massage me for the rest of the time. After I went back down, showered off and paid. My "helper" didn't ask for a tip and he really didn't do anything so I didn't feel a need to. Next time I'm hoping he'll get me something nicer, then I'll tip. All-in-all I paid 500 kuai. A little expensive, but the massage was really good and it was fun because they more than happy to help a foreigner since we're so rare around there.
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Theres a WG operating in the alley which leads to the tree, in sanlitun. She's offering 50rmb BBBJs and will go as low as 30. Dont worry, this is not from experience, rather a very reliable source. She'll take you into one of the dark corners. This has to be the lowest I've ever heard of.
Sid
Hi guys,
I am new here! I am planning to visit Beijing. Can someone tell me some sauna's addresses?
Thanks
Whcih hotel have you stayed in that has the most comfortable western (relatively soft) beds?
Thanks
[QUOTE=SidTheSexist]Theres a WG operating in the alley which leads to the tree, in sanlitun. She's offering 50rmb BBBJs and will go as low as 30. Dont worry, this is not from experience, rather a very reliable source. She'll take you into one of the dark corners. This has to be the lowest I've ever heard of.
Sid[/QUOTE]
Try back country Cambodia or Bangladesh if you want even cheaper.
Sorry "Member 2041," I am so sorry to actually specify on the BeiJing board that I actually meant IN BEIJING! So sorry that I didnt mention my umpteen experiences in Isaan or Sunuk'ville.
This might sound strange. But can someone recommend a nice clean legit massage establishment near the Forbidden City or Kerry Center.
Went to Hollywood a couple of nights ago at about 8 PM. Very slow. How far is Maggis from Hollywood? The old place is an ice cream polor.
You're joking, right? Hi, I'm new, can you guys do all my homework for me?
RTFF.
[QUOTE=KingDiamond]Hi guys,
I am new here! I am planning to visit Beijing. Can someone tell me some sauna's addresses?
Thanks[/QUOTE]123 Fake St.
Hey, give me a break. Thought this is a forum to share and help minimize legwork. Especially for us visitors on sever jet lag. I am perfectly capable of taking a cab to Maggies. Actually walked over there this afternoon. There are plenty of comments and advice on the how to have fun. At least for me, a legit massage is part of the visit.
In terms of contributing, go to the Berlin site. You'll enjoy some of my recommendations. It is a big world and there are far too many opportunities. We can't do homework at each site. Think it as contributing to the collective good.
Cheers
Speaking from my limited number of visits here, Hilton, St. Regis, Raffles, Beijing Grand.
For my education, where do you normally stay?
Report on recent trip to Shanghai. Not much time to explore, so all of the places I went to were previously mentioned in the forum. I still hope it is useful to some. My tastes in girls might also be different from some (I prefer “girl next door” to “model” type) so I found about half of the girls below the age of 30 that I saw on the street in China attractive. So take my ranking with a grain of salt. Advice to novices like me: get a good map with English and Chinese names of the streets and you will be able to find most of the places described in the forum.
Free lancer: First night, decided to go to the Pig at the Holiday Inn Lido. All the taxi drivers seem to know it (just say “lee doo fun dee ann”). The driver was lazy so he dropped me off on the street at the front entrance. I walked a few meters and saw two slender young ladies standing at the beginning of the drive way before the gate. One tall, the other medium height. I smiled at the shorter one, and she smiled back and asked me if I wanted her tonight. I took one look at her and thought: I would not mind that at all. I asked how much, and she replied “do you have a condom”. I said yes, and asked the price again. She said 600, I said 500 and she said yes right away. She said that she is from Beijing, college student, 21 or 22 can’t remember. Decent English, without the usual bar English repertoire. Judging from her body, face, clothes, behavior, way of talking, very believable story. She was worried that my hotel was far away. Did not shower, but wash clothed herself (was clean anyway). Washed her feet in the sink. Kept on text messaging her friends in the taxi. Very non professional, and therefore refreshing, but also not interested in acting as a girlfriend to any extent. Asked for money first. I put it on the table, and she was ok. No attempt at BJ, and I did not insist. Reasonable willing sex. The whitest skin on an Asian girl I’ve seen in a while. Left right away. Seemed to be in a hurry to get back. Left me her number without me asking for it. I might have given her 30 for taxi. Overall looks 8, mediocre service, but very refreshing.
The Pig: Next day I decided to try a Mongolian, so I went to the Pig again. This time I made it (it is actually closer to the back entrance of the hotel where the starbucks is). It was a weekday, but the male-female ratio was not impressive. The quality was not great either. Many 6s, though some 7s and a few 8s. Seemed to be a number of past 30 types. One Russian girl that was not bad. Girls are fairly aggressive in approaching you. Was able to talk to a couple while waiting for a beer. Both Chinese. One girl (a 7) approached, saying that she liked my body and few seconds later her friend joined. The friend had an extremely beautiful face and smile. Just a shade darker than average urban Chinese. Not fashion model type, but the type of girl that all the guys in the school dream of having for a girlfriend. So I aborted the Mongolian plan, and started gradually concentrating on the friend. I eventually asked how much, she said 1000, I said that last night I went for 500, she said that street girls are not trustworthy and countered with 800. I said 700. She said 800, but her friend said right away that she will go for 700. So I went with the cutie for 800. None of the other girls in the bar seemed that interesting. Arrived at the hotel. She puts glasses on before entering the lobby. Very cute! Money first routine. Shower. Bed. No BJ, did not insist. Nice body even with a tiny bit of fat. Very pleasant. Very passionate and responsive in bed. Gets the most passionate girl in China award. The only thing is that she kept on trying to get more money any way she could, even if in a cute joking way. I joked that I wanted to watch her shower and she said ok for 100. When we were done, she wanted to give me a massage for 200. I asked for a good bye kiss before she left and she “joked” that it would cost me another 20. Bargained the taxi money up to 50 too.
Maggie’s: Next night was my last chance for a Mongolian experience. Went to Maggies around midnight. Told the driver south gate of Ritan park. Did not see any park or gate, but he took me to right to maggie’s. Nice bar, decent music, good guy to girl ratio. All the girls were Mongolian, I was told, ranging from 5-9, many 8s. Two western girls dancing (not p4p, but you could probably pick them up). Did not have the feel of a hostess bar at all, but more of a freelance joint. Got approached by a girl that was a 5 right away, but other girls were not aggressive, just responsive. Saw a cute one in a flower print dress, and approached. Started talking. Good English. She is a student in Mongolia. Just came back from there after extending her visa. Bought her a drink – only 30rmb. Danced with her. Extremely charming! A lot of fun! Asked about going back with me. She said 800. I agreed thinking it was LT. I would have probably agreed anyway because I was falling in love. Got to the hotel at 2am. In the light, she did not seem as good looking, but still pretty and charming. She did not seem in a hurry. Started talking about Mongolia, etc. Then when she realized that I was ready for more than talk, she asked for money in advance. Kind of killed the mood. She did not shower, though she was clean. She said no kissing, which turned out to mean she did not want me to go down on her. Kissing, BBBJ, and various positions. Willing, but not very passionate or responsive. She got a call after we were done. Said it was another client and that she needed to go. It was 4am! Did not ask for taxi money.
Qianmen BBS: Checked out BBSes reported in the forum. I went there one day to check and next day for service. Very easy to find. Qianmen subway station. Go to the southwest corner of the intersection that itself forms the southwest corner of the TianAnMen square. Walk south two small blocks, and turn right. You will be in a small local street, very busy right after working hours – restaurants, shops, beauty salons, and a few BBS. You should see a public toilet on your right 30m from the big street. In a couple of BBSes the girls will even wave at you. The quality is poor mostly 6s. The first day I saw a pretty girl (8) in a red evening dress sitting in one place (way down the street on the south side of the street), but she did not wave to me, and next day I did not see her. Also, the first day, saw a girl (7) walking down the street, but could tell that she was a working girl. She saw me looking at her and invited me for massage. Next day I could not figure out where she was going to lead me to (a small alley). So there is probably more there than meet the eye. Anyway, the day that I went there for real I went into one place on the north side of the street. One girl that was 6, who actually turned out to have a decent body pulled to the back room right away. She offered HJ for 100. I asked for FS, she wanted 300, I countered 150, and settled on 200. She brought tissues and a condom lifted her skirt, pulled down her underwear and took a quick turn to let me look. I started to take off my shoes, but she said no! Strictly keep your shoes on place. At times like this Scottish kilts have a definite advantage. A few hand strokes, condom on, legs spreading, and off you go. Did try different positions (limited by my pant width, of course). Must admit. Very tight, however. The tightest equipment I had in China. Very satisfying because of that and the novelty of the situation. Also a good effort on her part to be responsive.
Overall opinion from my limited experience is that all p4p girls in china have their own agenda. The lower down the service pole you go, the more straightforward that agenda becomes. No really positive experiences with saunas! Overall, the best service I got on this trip was not in China, even though I spent the most time there. There was an amazing amount of beautiful girls in china to fit the taste of any asiaphile, so maybe worth exploring more.
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Report on recent trip to Shanghai. Not much time to explore, so all of the places I went to were previously mentioned in the forum. I still hope it is useful to some. My tastes in girls might also be different from some (I prefer “girl next door” to “model” type) so I found about half of the girls below the age of 30 that I saw on the street in China attractive. So take my ranking with a grain of salt. Advice to novices like me: get a good map with English and Chinese names of the streets and you will be able to find most of the places described in the forum.
Free lancer: First night, decided to go to the Pig at the Holiday Inn Lido. All the taxi drivers seem to know it (just say “lee doo fun dee ann”). The driver was lazy so he dropped me off on the street at the front entrance. I walked a few meters and saw two slender young ladies standing at the beginning of the drive way before the gate. One tall, the other medium height. I smiled at the shorter one, and she smiled back and asked me if I wanted her tonight. I took one look at her and thought: I would not mind that at all. I asked how much, and she replied “do you have a condom”. I said yes, and asked the price again. She said 600, I said 500 and she said yes right away. She said that she is from Beijing, college student, 21 or 22 can’t remember. Decent English, without the usual bar English repertoire. Judging from her body, face, clothes, behavior, way of talking, very believable story. She was worried that my hotel was far away. Did not shower, but wash clothed herself (was clean anyway). Washed her feet in the sink. Kept on text messaging her friends in the taxi. Very non professional, and therefore refreshing, but also not interested in acting as a girlfriend to any extent. Asked for money first. I put it on the table, and she was ok. No attempt at BJ, and I did not insist. Reasonable willing sex. The whitest skin on an Asian girl I’ve seen in a while. Left right away. Seemed to be in a hurry to get back. Left me her number without me asking for it. I might have given her 30 for taxi. Overall looks 8, mediocre service, but very refreshing.
The Pig: Next day I decided to try a Mongolian, so I went to the Pig again. This time I made it (it is actually closer to the back entrance of the hotel where the starbucks is). It was a weekday, but the male-female ratio was not impressive. The quality was not great either. Many 6s, though some 7s and a few 8s. Seemed to be a number of past 30 types. One Russian girl that was not bad. Girls are fairly aggressive in approaching you. Was able to talk to a couple while waiting for a beer. Both Chinese. One girl (a 7) approached, saying that she liked my body and few seconds later her friend joined. The friend had an extremely beautiful face and smile. Just a shade darker than average urban Chinese. Not fashion model type, but the type of girl that all the guys in the school dream of having for a girlfriend. So I aborted the Mongolian plan, and started gradually concentrating on the friend. I eventually asked how much, she said 1000, I said that last night I went for 500, she said that street girls are not trustworthy and countered with 800. I said 700. She said 800, but her friend said right away that she will go for 700. So I went with the cutie for 800. None of the other girls in the bar seemed that interesting. Arrived at the hotel. She puts glasses on before entering the lobby. Very cute! Money first routine. Shower. Bed. No BJ, did not insist. Nice body even with a tiny bit of fat. Very pleasant. Very passionate and responsive in bed. Gets the most passionate girl in China award. The only thing is that she kept on trying to get more money any way she could, even if in a cute joking way. I joked that I wanted to watch her shower and she said ok for 100. When we were done, she wanted to give me a massage for 200. I asked for a good bye kiss before she left and she “joked” that it would cost me another 20. Bargained the taxi money up to 50 too.
Maggie’s: Next night was my last chance for a Mongolian experience. Went to Maggies around midnight. Told the driver south gate of Ritan park. Did not see any park or gate, but he took me to right to maggie’s. Nice bar, decent music, good guy to girl ratio. All the girls were Mongolian, I was told, ranging from 5-9, many 8s. Two western girls dancing (not p4p, but you could probably pick them up). Did not have the feel of a hostess bar at all, but more of a freelance joint. Got approached by a girl that was a 5 right away, but other girls were not aggressive, just responsive. Saw a cute one in a flower print dress, and approached. Started talking. Good English. She is a student in Mongolia. Just came back from there after extending her visa. Bought her a drink – only 30rmb. Danced with her. Extremely charming! A lot of fun! Asked about going back with me. She said 800. I agreed thinking it was LT. I would have probably agreed anyway because I was falling in love. Got to the hotel at 2am. In the light, she did not seem as good looking, but still pretty and charming. She did not seem in a hurry. Started talking about Mongolia, etc. Then when she realized that I was ready for more than talk, she asked for money in advance. Kind of killed the mood. She did not shower, though she was clean. She said no kissing, which turned out to mean she did not want me to go down on her. Kissing, BBBJ, and various positions. Willing, but not very passionate or responsive. She got a call after we were done. Said it was another client and that she needed to go. It was 4am! Did not ask for taxi money.
Qianmen BBS: Checked out BBSes reported in the forum. I went there one day to check and next day for service. Very easy to find. Qianmen subway station. Go to the southwest corner of the intersection that itself forms the southwest corner of the TianAnMen square. Walk south two small blocks, and turn right. You will be in a small local street, very busy right after working hours – restaurants, shops, beauty salons, and a few BBS. You should see a public toilet on your right 30m from the big street. In a couple of BBSes the girls will even wave at you. The quality is poor mostly 6s. The first day I saw a pretty girl (8) in a red evening dress sitting in one place (way down the street on the south side of the street), but she did not wave to me, and next day I did not see her. Also, the first day, saw a girl (7) walking down the street, but could tell that she was a working girl. She saw me looking at her and invited me for massage. Next day I could not figure out where she was going to lead me to (a small alley). So there is probably more there than meet the eye. Anyway, the day that I went there for real I went into one place on the north side of the street. One girl that was 6, who actually turned out to have a decent body pulled to the back room right away. She offered HJ for 100. I asked for FS, she wanted 300, I countered 150, and settled on 200. She brought tissues and a condom lifted her skirt, pulled down her underwear and took a quick turn to let me look. I started to take off my shoes, but she said no! Strictly keep your shoes on place. At times like this Scottish kilts have a definite advantage. A few hand strokes, condom on, legs spreading, and off you go. Did try different positions (limited by my pant width, of course). Must admit. Very tight, however. The tightest equipment I had in China. Very satisfying because of that and the novelty of the situation. Also a good effort on her part to be responsive.
Overall opinion from my limited experience is that all p4p girls in china have their own agenda. The lower down the service pole you go, the more straightforward that agenda becomes. No really positive experiences with saunas! Overall, the best service I got on this trip was not in China, even though I spent the most time there. There was an amazing amount of beautiful girls in china to fit the taste of any asiaphile, so maybe worth exploring more.
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[QUOTE=Spooje]Last week I went to a sauna near the Xibahe bus stop. I forget the name, but one the outside of the building it says KTV and has Korean lettering, the only one in the area. Oddly enough there's a police station right by there.
Which district spooje? Is there a metro station close??
I checked out Hollywood a couple of days ago around 10 pm. The ratio of guys to gals was about 1:3. Most of the Russians were about 5-7, their were a few Mongols and Koreans, but I since I was there for the Ruskies, I ignored the Mongols and Koreans. It was hard to miss a stunning 19-20 yr old peroxide blond model type sitting by the bar, who was clearly the only 10 in the joint. Unfortunatly she was a cold fish. I saw a few guys try to chat her up but she just ignored them and smoked her cigarettes. She must have the older woman as her agent because the older woman would always speak with the guys. She must have a lot of special conditions for this model because none of the guys ended up taking her out. I didn't want to waste my time with a cold fish so I walked around and saw a friendly looking 8 who had just walked in. Before she could put her purse down, I approached, struk a deal and we were out the door. She said we had to take the club's taxi, which cost 50rmb, otherwise the club would get mad. Having no choice, we jumped in one and went to the Grand Hyatt. She was very friendly, was a student studying medicine in Russia and on her second trip to Beijing. I can't remember her name, but she had nice firm be cups and a beaurtiful body. The best part was she spoke perfect english which was very helpful. CBJ, Doggie (her favorite) and then pounded her hard in missonary to completion. We cuddled after I finished and then both jumped into the shower. She kissed me goodnight and asked that I see her again at the Hollywood as she'd be here for 3 months. Definitely will!
Does anyone know whether what she said about the 50rmb club taxis is true?
[QUOTE=Danahaste] She was very friendly, was a student studying medicine in Russia and on her second trip to Beijing. I can't remember her name, but she had nice firm be cups and a beaurtiful body. The best part was she spoke perfect english which was very helpful. CBJ, Doggie (her favorite) and then pounded her hard in missonary to completion. We cuddled after I finished and then both jumped into the shower. She kissed me goodnight and asked that I see her again at the Hollywood as she'd be here for 3 months. Definitely will!
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Can you tell us how much you paid for your lovely doctor?
I was in Beijing for a week last year. The maid came into my room and I tipped her, because I knew it was unlikely I would see her again.
This may have been a coincidence but that evening two cards had been slipped under the door of my room. No doubt the maid noticed that I was a foreigner and I was generous! One was for a Chinese girl and the other for a Russian. I was too busy to bother last year. I will be going to Beijing again in a few weeks and I want to be more adventurous this time. Has this happened to anyone else? If so did you make use of the offer and how successful was it?
Unfortunately, I cannot venture out of the hotel because I will be with a female colleague who happens to be Chinese. She would either worry like hell or would know what I was up to if I left the hotel for any length of time.
I would appreciate any advice and of course would report back on my experience.
[QUOTE=KingDiamond][QUOTE=Spooje]Last week I went to a sauna near the Xibahe bus stop. I forget the name, but one the outside of the building it says KTV and has Korean lettering, the only one in the area. Oddly enough there's a police station right by there.
Which district spooje? Is there a metro station close??[/QUOTE]Guanximen station isn't too far. Xibahe is on 3rd ring road, in the North East corner.
[QUOTE=Danahaste]She said we had to take the club's taxi, which cost 50rmb, otherwise the club would get mad.
Does anyone know whether what she said about the 50rmb club taxis is true?[/QUOTE]
Yes, Hollywood will threaten to not renew her "membership" card if she does not use the official cars for the clients on a regular basis. Sometimes the cars will take the girl back as well, for an extra RM50, so you may occasionally be asked for this as well - but normally the girls don't bother as they even consider the cars a rip off. If no-one is looking the girl will sometimes sneak you past the cars - but as bussiness is slow right now its unlikely this is possible right now. Too many Club Taxi drivers waiting for business.
"who was clearly the only 10 in the joint. Unfortunatly she was a cold fish. I saw a few guys try to chat her up but she just ignored them and smoked her cigarettes. She must have the older woman as her agent because the older woman would always speak with the guys. She must have a lot of special conditions for this model because none of the guys ended up taking her out. I didn't want to waste my time with a cold fish"
Good call. I was also there. She was in a cluster. Being from the States and lusted all over Europe, she was a 8 at most. Nice little body though. Long legs etc. But why would anyone want to bone someone with an attitude like that. She is a hooker for Christ's sake. Attitude is critical for me. Given how slow that night was, I hope they went home dry and broke. What's with the 800 RMB and 1 pop thing?
Thanks for info on the hotel limo service. Also fell for waiter selling me a warm beer for 35RMB. Like they say, a sucker born every minute.
For me this is as much sport as getting laid. Happy hunting.
[QUOTE=Wonderer]Pro Hunter,
In the past, I had some SW from the street in front of LH shopping mall and HRC. All my experience there is negative. They might charge you less than a HRC girl (e.g. 400 for ST), but the quality and / or attitude is low. Once I had a quite pretty one of about 20 years. But she was so horribly dry that event the condom broke. Not a nice imagination.
On the other hand, I had several girls from the HRC and was never really disappointed. The prices were somewhat higher, though (e.g. 800 for LT).
I also had once a girl from the Pig. She was really great.
From Maggies I also had a few, and the experiences were mixed. One agreed only to ST, and then when we wanted to start, she received (or pretended to receive?) a phone call from a "good customer". I.e. she told me that she has only limited time, because she needs to see him. I was so pissed off and was about to through her out. But then, she agreed to stay for 2 hours, which was enough for me. Then, her attitude and talent was not even so bad.
My next try is probably the Pig again.
Wonderer[/QUOTE]
Hi Wonderer,
Good to have your reply at this hour as I am about to try those on the street. You are right. They charge from 300-600 but I guess they will ask for more when they are in the room.
I have nto been to Pig and think of explore one day after seeing a lot of positive feedback abt the girls in pig.
[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]Mate the 'price' is whatever you can negotiate.
I have had double headers off the street for RMB300 each - these girls are all freelancers and free to charge whatever the 2 of you agree on.
Go for it - it is little money - if the experience is no good what have you lost?[/QUOTE]
Maybe you are right, what we have to lose is the price is only 300, but just wonder if any syndicate or gangster that will "follow" to the room after you both entered. That is another worry.
If you have heard anything abt that, do you mind to share?
[QUOTE=Johnthomas0519]"who was clearly the only 10 in the joint. Unfortunatly she was a cold fish. I saw a few guys try to chat her up but she just ignored them and smoked her cigarettes. She must have the older woman as her agent because the older woman would always speak with the guys. She must have a lot of special conditions for this model because none of the guys ended up taking her out. I didn't want to waste my time with a cold fish"
Good call. I was also there. She was in a cluster. Being from the States and lusted all over Europe, she was a 8 at most. Nice little body though. Long legs etc. But why would anyone want to bone someone with an attitude like that. She is a hooker for Christ's sake. Attitude is critical for me. Given how slow that night was, I hope they went home dry and broke. What's with the 800 RMB and 1 pop thing?
Thanks for info on the hotel limo service. Also fell for waiter selling me a warm beer for 35RMB. Like they say, a sucker born every minute.
For me this is as much sport as getting laid. Happy hunting.[/QUOTE]
Just a note, sometimes the girls act "cold" because they are very new to the game and are afraid. I am not sure which "10" or whatever is the "Cold Fish" in this posting, but there are 2 tall (175cm+), thin girls with long blond hair working right now, who are model, or close to model class.
1. One stands near the bar near the entrance, normally with 2 other girls. She is about 19yr old, has long frizzy blond hear (real) and comes from St Petersburg and has been working for about 3 weeks. Because she does not speak much english one of her friends, a tall older olive skinned girl helps out. She certainly acts like a cold fish, but after speaking with her, she becomes very friendly. Her problem is she is new to the game and scared. If you go up to her and ask how much, try and negociate, ask for any strange sexual service, or you appear rough and scary - she will be too scared to say yes.
2. On the other hand the other girl is uzbek, stands around the pool table, or the tables close to the pool table, or sometimes at the bar on the corner closest to the pool table. This girl is a real professional, speaks good english, is in my opinion model class, has a very nice face and is also tall and thin and is about 21. If she is cold, its because she thinks you are a bad risk. She also prefer's chinese customers and she tends to get several tricks an evening. Best time to tackle her is about 11:00.
So, while i agree these girls are not the best sales folks, they often are remote and cool to hide their fear or to maximise their revenue and minimise their risks.
One other note, once you find someone you like "Be Quick". These girls observe all the new customers as they come, they may make eye contacts or move around in a sexy manner for about 5 min, if you do not approach them they think you are only their to look and they ignore you for the rest of the evening. I know this is a pain, i like to observer for a while, but them are the rules it seems.
[QUOTE=Pro Hunter]Maybe you are right, what we have to lose is the price is only 300, but just wonder if any syndicate or gangster that will "follow" to the room after you both entered. That is another worry.
If you have heard anything abt that, do you mind to share?[/QUOTE]
Pro Hunter -
Assuming you are staying in a 3+ star hotel I think there is very little chance of gangsters following you to your hotel room. Even if the girl called them and told them what room you were it, they would be taking a big risk as the hotel would be on your side.
If you went with the girl back to her place, then that would be a different story. You are then taking a risk that her "brother" or "boy friend" will bust in and try to get more money from you. This has never happened to me, but one time I went with a Chinese girl back to her apartment and she locked her front door on me. She then tried to extort more money from me. I told her that if she did not open the door I would just start shouting. I knew her neighbors would not be too pleased with a visitor shouting in the middle of the night, even if they already knew what she did for a living. Needless to say, she opened the door up very quickly for me.
Sammy
Hollywood Experts -
I have been to Hollywood several times at different times in the evening, and it is always hit-and-miss for me. Can someone help me out by answering the following questions:
What time do the girls start to show up at Hollywood, ie. the absolute earilest you would every want to go and have someone of a selection?
When is the "peak" time when there is the best representation of girls?
When does it empty out, ie. the latest you would ever want to go and still have somewhat of a selection?
Does a drink come with the cover charge, or not? I seem to remeber that it did in the past, but on my last visit I do not think it did.
Are the taxi's that the girls are required to take real taxis, or just guys in cars? Is it a flat 50 RMB anywhere in the city, or if they take me to the lido area are they going to hit me for 100 RMB? I do not want to get the girl in trouble, but at the same time I am not going to pay some taxi to rip me off when I know better.
Sammy
Jin Hai An Shang Wu Hui Guan -- 金海岸商务会馆
Went there a bit before the may holidays. As this was the first sauna I've been to. I have no comparision. But I thought the place was relatively clean but rather a bit small. The sauna is at least 2 floors. Checked in. Showered. Went up. Ordered the 600 service. That included BJ and fs. The girl asked me if I wanted a BBBJ at no extra charge. But I declined. Don't know if thats offered to everyone. But hey. I like to be safe. As reported before. There is a 800 service. But that only includes getting oiled down and having your own hole played with on top of the 600 service. I heard there was a 1000 service. But I have no idea what that throws in. As I mentioned earlier the place isn't that big. And so they only have around 10 girls to choose from. At any given day they have around 7-8ppl to choose from. They do let you choose who you want but the choices arent many. Though there are pretty good looking for the most part. Which brings me to my question. Which sauna in beijing is relatively bigger with a more diverse pool of ladies to choose from? I don't like the whole we'll just send some random chick to your room. And you can keep turning them down until you find the right one. That wastes a lot of time.
Pro Hunter,
Wish you good luck at the Pig, and don't forget to report about your experience. It's all learning from each other.
Pro Hunter and Sammy_T,
I have been hunting in China for many years and have never had any bad experience with the "brother" or "boyfriend" threatening me. I have to admit that it was very rare, though, that I followed to her (or their - if they were two) room.
Only once, many, many years ago, I think it was in 1994, I followed a pimp in Beijing. They brought me to a remote place in a dark street. As soon as I was in that dark bar, two girls were around me and started to drink. One promised to visit me in my hotel - all BS, of course.
After about 5 minutes the situation was clear to me, and I wanted to leave. At the end I was lucky that they "only" wanted about 1000 Rmb... As I refused, a number of tall guys were around, and I decided to give in. It was certainly better like this.
Then, I was lucky again. When I left the bar, a taxi just arrived bringing some 4 Japanese to the bar. I immediately jumped into the taxi and left the place of horror. Had there been no taxi just arriving, I still don't know how I could have found my way out in a street without any light and without knowing where the hell I am.
This was an important lesson, and I'll never forget.
Wonderer - and safe hunting!
[QUOTE=Sammy_T]Pro Hunter -
Assuming you are staying in a 3+ star hotel I think there is very little chance of gangsters following you to your hotel room. Even if the girl called them and told them what room you were it, they would be taking a big risk as the hotel would be on your side.
If you went with the girl back to her place, then that would be a different story. You are then taking a risk that her "brother" or "boy friend" will bust in and try to get more money from you. This has never happened to me, but one time I went with a Chinese girl back to her apartment and she locked her front door on me. She then tried to extort more money from me. I told her that if she did not open the door I would just start shouting. I knew her neighbors would not be too pleased with a visitor shouting in the middle of the night, even if they already knew what she did for a living. Needless to say, she opened the door up very quickly for me.
Sammy[/QUOTE]
Shout it out loudly is a good one. I like it, yeah!
I am not staying in hotel. I work here as expat and stay in my own apartment. I have never followed a girl back to her house as I know the risk is there. I used to take them back to my apartment and now I started to feel bad as they will come back to disturb sometimes.
Thanks for the follow up threads, guys.
LittleGoomba, I paid 800RMB for the Russian medical student (not yet a doctor). It's the same for all the girls at Hollywood.
Sebastian, thanks for the info on the club taxi.
JohnThomas, that 10 that I didn't go after was not a 8, but a true 10. She had a knockout face and looked like she should be in a magazine covershot. She was wearing a dress tht night and looked very high class--almost the opposite of all the other girls that night. She may be the first one Sebastian mentioned in his 2nd post. She sat with 2 other girls at the bar. The difference is that she sat on the inside part of the bar facing the tables to the back and she had curly blond hair. But no way was that natural blond. It was too bright. She wasnt there when I went last night.
SammyT, the club cabs are regular cars parked in front of the club entry. They have no markings and no meters. Their were 4 parked in front when I came out, my girl motioned to the group of drivers smoking cigaretes and one guy jumps up and drives us off. The driver was actually a nice and funny guy. I was there at 10 pm and it looked like most of the russians were already there. The place is dark and I dont feel particularly safe with the gangster looking "bouncers' at the front door. But it's interesting.
Most of these girls say they have an apartment that they share with another girl and we can use that if we don't want to go to a hotel. Has anyone done that and is it safe?
From the reports I have read, it seems that the best paces to visit in Beijing are:
The Pig
Hollywood
Maggies
Can some one please give me full addresses for these places as most taxi drivers in beijing don't speak english and probably won't understand just by name. Please list any other similar bars with top end girls if I missed in the list.
[QUOTE=Sammy_T]Hollywood Experts -
I have been to Hollywood several times at different times in the evening, and it is always hit-and-miss for me. Can someone help me out by answering the following questions:
What time do the girls start to show up at Hollywood, ie. the absolute earilest you would every want to go and have someone of a selection?
When is the "peak" time when there is the best representation of girls?
When does it empty out, ie. the latest you would ever want to go and still have somewhat of a selection?
Does a drink come with the cover charge, or not? I seem to remeber that it did in the past, but on my last visit I do not think it did.
Are the taxi's that the girls are required to take real taxis, or just guys in cars? Is it a flat 50 RMB anywhere in the city, or if they take me to the lido area are they going to hit me for 100 RMB? I do not want to get the girl in trouble, but at the same time I am not going to pay some taxi to rip me off when I know better.
Sammy[/QUOTE]
1. Girls start showing up from 8:30pm - but 9:00pm is the time most of the girls target on a reasonable day. IF business is bad the girls may come in at 10:00pm, but never later.
2. Between 9pm and 10pm is the best time - all girls are on deck and the number of customers are reasonable so not many of them would of gone. After 10pm the customers start taking the best one out, so by 10:30pm you may be left with only average girls.
3. By midnight its dead, the girls start existing from 11:30pm if it looks like there is minimal business, but they normally all go for dinner at midnight. They try and get a bite to eat next door before the russian guys get too drunk.
4. IF you are a western guy, you get no free drink. I am pretty sure if you are a local, or even if you are a russian girl doing a one-off, you get a drink.
5. Taxis are guys in cars. I have never had any issues. They charge RM50 if you are not too far away, RM100 if you are far away. Very rarely you will be asked for some money so the taxi can wait and take the girl back, but this has only ever happened once to me, out of about 50. If you are unsure ask for the price before you leave. One option i have tried is give the girl you hotel address and arrange to meet her 30min later in the lobby. The girls often prefer this, especially if the police are active. But the girl has to have good english and you may need to offer to pay the normal taxi fare.
But the situation changes so much from evening to evening its possible to turn up and have a crap time one evening, yet other times when all you wish to do is to have a drink and a perv, you are bombarded with such a good selection you end up taking out someone.
[QUOTE=Spooje][QUOTE=KingDiamond]Guanximen station isn't too far. Xibahe is on 3rd ring road, in the North East corner.[/QUOTE]Thanks Spooje
You can walk to Maggies from Hollywood. Neighborhood is very safe since a number of embassies are there. Full of security. Only danger is being run over by the crazy drivers. No one seems to obey the traffic lights.
Hollywood is definitely full of russians. The range varies. Some real babes along with some dogs. Trouble with this place is attitude of doormen and staff. Air quality is another problem as it is defintely marlboro country.
Maggies is actually tasteful. The bouncers are polite, unless you are a local Chinese. Not clear given the number of locals who make good money (often much more affluent that the deadbeat tourist and ex-pat), they are turned away. I have traveled all over the world and have never experienced this.
BTW, thanks for info on the bar taxis in front of hollywood. Was confused why all those cars are parked there with drivers. Also does anyone know what the going rate is for the russian girls for an overnite?
Hi all,
I will be staying at Tianlun beginning june and intend to visit the KTV. I was wondering how much I should prepare for a visit to the KTV. I did a search but it was rather old reports just hope to get an update. The prices stated are for groups of 5-6 guys also.
Since I intend to visit alone as I do not know anyone in Beijing - May i know if there are rooms for a small party (maybe 2-3 people) and how much will it cost. To my understand it will cost appx 1000RMB which will include 2 bottles? The next question is if I can't finish the liquour, will the KTV be able to hold it for a next visit and how much will this next visit cost me?
Just to re-confirm the appx amount is
Mami : 200-300RMB
Girl tips : 400RMB
Takeout (may i ask if this is LT?) : as high as 2000RMB?
Of course I take this chance to have any seniors to join me and show me the ropes if you are free and I am not bringing you any trouble. Also helps to split the cost :P Will post my FR for my 6 day trip to PEK. :)
Cheers!
Brass
[QUOTE=Johnthomas0519]
Maggies is actually tasteful. The bouncers are polite, unless you are a local Chinese. Not clear given the number of locals who make good money (often much more affluent that the deadbeat tourist and ex-pat), they are turned away. I have traveled all over the world and have never experienced this. QUOTE]
Maggies keeps the local authorities happy by only having Laowai working girls for Laowai guys, ie not a problem for China. Thats why they can operate openly and in the embassy area. If they had a lot of Chinese customers then I guess they would be closed down.
I was approached by a mongolian in maggies (suprisingly) last weekend. It was about 4am. She asked me straight up, you want to go with me? I asked how much and she said 1000rmb. I said no, too much. She asked me how much I would pay. Told her 400, expecting a slap in the face. She came back with 600 so I said OK. She said, back to her place so I put her through the usual questioning of where abouts, roomates, chinese building etc? It was all good, so off we went. Intl building in WangJing, roomates out for the night, and 600rmb for LT.
Done the deed, which was nothing much, never mind memorable for me. I was out like a light on the bed and the next thing I know, its 7am and shes got me up. Theres two angry mongolian roomates (of whom, I think 1 I had, had previous dealings) sitting in the front room and my girl is zipping up the biggest suitcase Ive ever seen. We ended up rushing out of the apartment and down to the taxi rank where she jumped in and sped off to the airport to catch her flight to Ulan Bator!!!! so much for my LT!!!
Another Maggies experience ticked off the list!!
Sid :D
[QUOTE=MikeInSeattle]From the reports I have read, it seems that the best paces to visit in Beijing are:
The Pig
Hollywood
Maggies
Can some one please give me full addresses for these places as most taxi drivers in beijing don't speak english and probably won't understand just by name. Please list any other similar bars with top end girls if I missed in the list.[/QUOTE]Easiest way is to go to the conceirge desk at the hotel you are at, and ask him to write directions to each place on separate hotel cards. Write a note in English on them so you know which one is which, and you can easily go from one place to another. Have one for the Pig, Suzy Wong's and HRC too. And you should be able to find someone during the course of the night.
I came back from my first time holidays in China 3 weeks ago. Not a mongering holiday but I keep my eyes open. Priority was being a regular tourist. My first stop was Beijing with the regular tourist sites, the Wall, Forbidden City. I did some reading in the forum in advance, and I have to say the China forum very active. Thanks to you guys who invest your time in creating and posting maps with actual locations and even satellite images from Google Earth, just a fantastic tool for a guy who just landed in town. I had just one night out, Saturday. I started by going to Sanlitun, and I just landed in the middle of it. I was actually looking for an ordinary bar, but there was only ladybars. I walked the street from north to south and when I finally came to the end of the street, I took some time to talk to a mama. She claimed 800 for a night take-away, which didn’t sound to bad considering the prices stated in this forum. It’s still more than 100 USD. Actually find China quite pricy compared to other Asian destinations. According to the business card she is a Supervisor Manager at Beijing ShiXin Girl Club. But I had plans for the night so I walked to Mix, a potential freebee place? Well, not my kind of place really, one of those to noisy discos with bad music. Was a 50 RMB entry fee, no drinks included. Had a beer and looked around a bit. Took a taxi to Suzy Wong. Better place for me. Not so much people there, obviously ladies night on Wednesday is the night. Looked into a pub on the other side of the street, G&D, but was almost empty. It was late, so took a taxi back to the hotel. Very convenient using taxi inn Beijing. Never had any problems and they switch on the meter as soon as they start. Should have done my night out in the other directions, but had a good time.
Off to Yangshuo. See Guilin
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I love Mongolians and your city has a lot of hot ones to offer. I had the Pleasure of spending time with Erka and Onorro when I was in Beijing over a year ago. They were unfortgetable experiences.
I will be in town around May 20 and would love to get together with them again. Anyone knows if they are in town?
Thanks,
Joe
[b]Saturday[/b]
Nothing doing - too early - on the 3rd Ring Road as we headed to a restaurant at 8pm... except guys who wanted to take us to bars for ladies. By 9pm one slim and reasonably ok lady was offering massage (means sex). But I'm with a colleague I don't know well, so I ignored her. Alone, I would be stopping to chat, at least.
Coming back to Hilton on Saturday night, three girls in the lobby, on a couch or chair not far from the elevator area, one giving me the look. I did not do more than get her number then, again trying to be discreet.
Later on, after a "clean" massage at the place next to Hilton, only one girl left in the lobby. How much? She said "two dollars" but I think she meant $200. I opened my wallet to show Chinese money and she said 1000.
These girls rated 5-6. With better ladies, good attitude on the sidewalk south of here towards Great Wall Sheraton / Hard Rock, it's generally 500-600, so I see little reason to pay more for less-attractive women in the Hilton lobby... well, there's the convenience factor, I suppose, which is why they command a higher price. And perhaps they had to pay someone to be there in the first place. I have never seen lobby girls here in previous visits.
Yes, I know about the bars and other options, but I like the convenience of the strip.
[b]Sunday[/b]
Afternoon: called Lili. She wants 1000. Too much, I say, and hang up.
9pm: A walk along 3rd ring road, Luftansa in the direction of HRC. There are usually ladies on this strip between 9-11pm. Before I got to "the strip" proper, I was greeted by a cute petite Chinese girl, Li Xue, about a 7 on my scale. How much? You tell me. So I say 500. She asks 600 but settles on my offer. I figure if I'm totally pleased I tip her to her amount or more.
A happy, giggly, puppy dog of a girl, she is very pleasant to be with. Petite, ample boobs, small amount of chub on her waist. Smiles and laughs a lot, teases me a bit. Showers me nicely. No BJ, though, and I didn't ask. I like that as an appetizer, but it isn't a huge thing for me. She was enthusiastic enough but rushed me a little, so I was less than satisfied, but it was nice. Another shower. An offer to stay for another 400, but I have a long day tomorrow.
I have reasonably good luck on this strip, getting girls who are cute enough and have a cheerful attitude (one I reported last year was singing as we headed to the hotel). I have also talked to (and walked on from) girls who are a bit more hardened. Never a problem with security in my room, though I don't leave things out and they usually don't spend the night. Hilton staff greets me as I walk in with a girl, never a question.
What I especially like is that with a 7 minute walk I can quickly get company in the middle evening. The only thing better would be if they were available all day and night, but 9-11pm seems to be prime time here.
[QUOTE=Kunshan][QUOTE=Johnthomas0519]Maggies is actually tasteful. The bouncers are polite, unless you are a local Chinese. Not clear given the number of locals who make good money (often much more affluent that the deadbeat tourist and ex-pat), they are turned away. I have traveled all over the world and have never experienced this. QUOTE]Maggies keeps the local authorities happy by only having Laowai working girls for Laowai guys, ie not a problem for China. Thats why they can operate openly and in the embassy area. If they had a lot of Chinese customers then I guess they would be closed down.[/QUOTE]To clarify further, prostitution is illegal in China. So Chinese men paying foreign (Mongolian) girls for sex is illegal. Sex between consenting foreigners even if one pays the other is tolerated.
I have stayed more than 100 nights at the Hilton and never had any problems bringing girls in. If you take one from Maggies after 1 am or so, reception is normally deserted. There will only be a guard who will look ostentatiously the other way.
Personally, I wouldn't touch the sidewalk girls as I don't think it is safe or even clean.
Besides, Mongolians are much more to my taste, both in physique and attitude. But 1000 RMB is indeed the price for LT, unless you are picking her up after 3 AM (beware you may be her second catch of the night).
[QUOTE=Steve Naive]Nothing doing on the 3rd Ring Road as we headed to a restaurant at 8pm... except guys who wanted to take us to bars for ladies. By 9pm one slim and reasonably ok lady was offering massage (which means sex). But I'm with a colleague I don't know well, so I ignored her.
Coming back to Hilton on Saturday night, three girls in the lobby, on a couch or chair not far from the elevator area, one giving me the look. I did not do more than get her number then, again trying to be discreet.
Later on, after a massage, only one left in the lobby. How much? She said "two dollars" but I think she meant $200. I opened my wallet to show Chinese money and she said 1000. The one whose number I got, when I called next day, also said 1000.
These girls were 5 or 6 at best. I have often found worthwhile ladies with a nice attitude on the sidewalk south of hear towards Great Wall Sheraton / Hard Rock, generally 500-600, so I see little reason to pay more for less-attractive women in the Hilton lobby... well, there's the convenience factor, I suppose, which is why they command a higher price. And perhaps they had to pay someone to be there in the first place. I have never seen lobby girls here before.
Yes, I know I can do much better by going farther afield.
If anyone has current numbers to get a girl sent to my room, I'd be grateful, as it is convenient when I have to be discreet. If you do PM me, please include expected price. Thanks.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=joes]I love Mongolians and your city has a lot of hot ones to offer. I had the Pleasure of spending time with Erka and Onorro when I was in Beijing over a year ago. They were unfortgetable experiences.
I will be in town around May 20 and would love to get together with them again. Anyone knows if they are in town?
Thanks,
Joe[/QUOTE]Erka was still in Beijing a few weeks ago. I spent one evening with her at Maggies, and even if she ended a little drunk, she showed a very nice attitude, especially for the morning call :-)
I was interested in how the Chinese scene here in Beijing works compared with the FKKs over in Germany. So I dropped by all three places, The Pig, Hollywood and Maggies to see what differences there would be.
The Pig - I did a quick drop by this place, the standard of girls was about a 5-6 to me when I went at about 10pm. There was a good selection, ranging from young to old, short to tall, etc. There were only 2 caucasian girls, I assume to be russian, I'd rate them an 8 and a 7. I didn't stay long as the place was too small and I wasn't interested in any of the women anyway.
The Hollywood - I spent more time here, so more comments. There was much more action here, the place seem to be a little bigger. I arrived here at 10.30pm. For both the asian / mongolian as well as the russian / caucasian women, I'd say there was a pretty good range of 4-9. The better ones get picked fast and go off to the hotels with their clients. Going early and hard in on the person that first turns you on might be a good idea, as you have no idea when she might be returning. The standard price here seems to be 800 ST, 2400 LT for both the asians as well as the russians. The turnover rate here seems to be very high, as in, people come in and leave fast. Once they've found their partner, they leave the place.
Maggies - I wasn't allowed in, I later found out from the Taxi driver that it was because they only allowed caucasians in (I am asian). No matter, from the outside I could more or less tell the situation, which I was more interested in. The women seem to only be chinese / mongolian, I was intrigued and asked the taxi driver who later sent me home, he said that that is the case for this club. So for those who like these kind of women, please go ahead. I saw about 10 girls total enter the club, they ranged from 4-7.5. The bad thing I noticed about this place was that there seem to be quite a number of men leaving alone. I only saw 2 guys leaving with women while about 6 guys left alone.
FKKs - For those who haven't been to the better FKKs in Germany, you are definitely missing out. After a 65 Euros entrance fee, for 50 Euros (~500RMB) you can get a good fuck with a girl of your choice and they parade around naked. I find the standard of women in the better FKKs definitely better than my experience here for the night. I'm personally more into caucasian blonds, so perhaps I'm a little bias and more suited there. One disadvantage I found in FKKs is that you can't go LT with them. But of course, there have been quite a number of horror stories regarding girls leaving early here in China.
Overall I think it is a matter of taste, in what kind of women you like. China is definitely a great place for asian pussy, and a lot of women seem to be throwing themselves at most caucasian men. Eithercase, good luck all.
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Hi Patricklim1234
the following is the best way to get in to Maggies if you are Asian
1. Walk in with a group of white guys, speak English to the bouncers IF they challange you. Normally the bouncers won't say anything if you are in a foreign looking group.
2. Show your passport
What ever you do, do not speak Chinese to the door staff if you are Asian looking.
Haven't posted anything for quite some time and thought it's about time for me to contribute my exprience with this MP in WangJing. I've been visiting WangJing MP on and off for the past few months and for the last three visits instead of going to the MP I've ordered out. The girls have been coming to my hotel to provide a massage and handjob, or so I thought. On two occasions (two different girls) I managed to get a whole the whole shebang FS with totally GFE. The first time I just thought the girl just really digs me and wanted a boyfriend but the second girl who came a couple of days later was also the same. Both girls stayed longer that the allotted 90 minutes actually they stayed for 180 minutes so I had to pay for two sessions plus taxi fare. I'm starting to wonder if most of the girls provides this service when they're at the hotels? The great thing was no mention of any extra payment for the extra services, maybe it's included in the second session? Obvisously I've visited these girls at WangJing before but never expected to get FS for the price of a HJ.
66.66% hit rate is not to bad. Anyone have a similar exprience there?
MazterMac
[QUOTE=Fredo24]I have stayed more than 100 nights at the Hilton and never had any problems bringing girls in. If you take one from Maggies after 1 am or so, reception is normally deserted. There will only be a guard who will look ostentatiously the other way.).[/QUOTE]
You have been to Hilton much more htan me, but I never had a problem bringing a girl into Hilton (or Sheraton GW or Trader's). At the latter two the same (invited) girl managed to get to my door with no problem. My only reason for being discrete at Hilton is a work colleague I don't know well.
[QUOTE=Fredo24]
Personally, I wouldn't touch the sidewalk girls as I don't think it is safe or even clean.[/quote]
I keep reading that here, and I don't know why. My experiences, though limited, have been both safe and clean. I even made it a point to look and smell last night, even though there was no direct contact there. Sure, there have been some I have passed by that I could imagine neither clean nor safe. But I didn't take them to find out.
[QUOTE=Fredo24]
Besides, Mongolians are much more to my taste, both in physique and attitude. But 1000 RMB is indeed the price for LT, unless you are picking her up after 3 AM (beware you may be her second catch of the night).[/QUOTE]
I was quoted 1000 ST by two (separate) Chinese ladies in the Hilton. Not worth it to me, since I have better choices for less.
I've never had the pleasure of a Mongolian, but hope that might change during this trip. Attitude-wise, the sidewalk girls I have had have been pleasant, though this recent one rushed me a bit too much. GFE-wise, I still like Thai girls the best... in Thailand.
What's the EARLIEST time for reasonably getting one from Maggie's? I'm not a late night guy.
I'm confused. Their Web site (on What's New) says that they will move in [b]July[/b], but the map on their Location page shows the bar located at Ritan Park. Is it Ritan Park now, or still near the Worker's Stadium?
[quote=www.maggiesbar.com]
The worker'S stadium is expending space for the Olympic Game in 2008. The current site of Maggie'S bar has been included in the expending area. As a result, we have found a new location in RiTan Park and we are moving in mid of July. We will keep updating the moving information on the web site and posters inside the bar.
[/quote]
Yes, this is old, Maggies is currently located near the South Gate of Ri Tan Park. It's at the intersection of Jian Hua Road and GuangHua Road. The place they're saying they "will be" moving to is the spot that they're been at already for a while. In fact it's been there since I first visited about 10 months ago.
G
[QUOTE=Steve Naive]This is perhaps old news to locals and regulars, but according to their Web site they will move again in July. It was news to me, but I'm neither local nor regular here.[/QUOTE]
Yes, this is old news. Maggies is directly next to the south gate of Ri Tan park, at the intersection of GuangHau Road an JianHau Road. It's been there for at least the last 10 months or so, which was the first time that I visited there.
G
[QUOTE=Steve Naive]I'm confused. Their Web site (on What's New) says that they will move in [b]July[/b], but the map on their Location page shows the bar located at Ritan Park. Is it Ritan Park now, or still near the Worker's Stadium?[/QUOTE]
I reported a few months ago that Wangjing MP did offer FS when you call the girls to your place... Anyways, visited a soapland in Shanghai and they are kick ass, any place similar to those in Beijing?
Will be in Beijing and staying in Comfort inn & suites in Gongti Beilu. Anybody know if this is guest friendly place?
Next month I will stay at The Great Wall Sheraton - Beijing. Is there any night club inside the hotel building, where I can pick up girls to bring to my room? What are the girls rates?
Many thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=Steve Naive]I'm confused. Their Web site (on What's New) says that they will move in [b]July[/b], but the map on their Location page shows the bar located at Ritan Park. Is it Ritan Park now, or still near the Worker's Stadium?[/QUOTE]Maggie's has been at the south gate of Ritan Park for almost two years now.
[QUOTE=Steve Naive]I've never had the pleasure of a Mongolian, but hope that might change during this trip. Attitude-wise, the sidewalk girls I have had have been pleasant, though this recent one rushed me a bit too much. GFE-wise, I still like Thai girls the best... in Thailand.
What's the EARLIEST time for reasonably getting one from Maggie's? I'm not a late night guy.[/QUOTE]Earliest to get one from Maggie's is probably 11 PM. But if you are in need of a Mongolian earlier than that, you can try either the Pig or Hard Rock. Not all of them go there though. They all go to Maggie's.
Allow me to disagree on the other point. Although I do like Thai girls in Thailand, GFE wise there is nothing like Philipinas. In Philippines (although cariocas can also be great. In Rio).
[QUOTE=Steve Naive]I'm confused. Their Web site (on What's New) says that they will move in [b]July[/b], but the map on their Location page shows the bar located at Ritan Park. Is it Ritan Park now, or still near the Worker's Stadium?[/QUOTE]If you're in Hilton tonight I'll be glad to show you.
[QUOTE=Pier20]Erka was still in Beijing a few weeks ago. I spent one evening with her at Maggies, and even if she ended a little drunk, she showed a very nice attitude, especially for the morning call :-)[/QUOTE]Thanks Pier20, I hope Erka is still there next week. What a hot body and attitude. Can't wait.
Nice to see the Wangjing MP is still turning over. I havent been for ages. Maybe even 1 year!
Sid
[QUOTE=Maztermac]Haven't posted anything for quite some time and thought it's about time for me to contribute my exprience with this MP in WangJing. I've been visiting WangJing MP on and off for the past few months and for the last three visits instead of going to the MP I've ordered out. The girls have been coming to my hotel to provide a massage and handjob, or so I thought. On two occasions (two different girls) I managed to get a whole the whole shebang FS with totally GFE. The first time I just thought the girl just really digs me and wanted a boyfriend but the second girl who came a couple of days later was also the same. Both girls stayed longer that the allotted 90 minutes actually they stayed for 180 minutes so I had to pay for two sessions plus taxi fare. I'm starting to wonder if most of the girls provides this service when they're at the hotels? The great thing was no mention of any extra payment for the extra services, maybe it's included in the second session? Obvisously I've visited these girls at WangJing before but never expected to get FS for the price of a HJ.
66.66% hit rate is not to bad. Anyone have a similar exprience there?
MazterMac[/QUOTE]It's been some time since I last contributed to the board. Have been laying low. As per MazterMac report, yes, I did encounter the same incident, but it was only 1 girl. Guess you are either charming or handsome.
I suppose they have their needs as well, cause they don't demand extras, but of course I do give them some extra tips to make up for their GFE.
Have to thank Sid again for the information as he is the one that shared this information to all here in the board!
[QUOTE=Patricklim1234]I was interested in how the Chinese scene here in Beijing works compared with the FKKs over in Germany. So I dropped by all three places, The Pig, Hollywood and Maggies to see what differences there would be.
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Comparing these 3 establishments with FKK clubs in Germany (or Czech) may be a bit unfair. Maggies and the Pig are designed for foreign guys, rather than locals. Hollywood is designed for locals, like FKK clubs, but this is a unique establishment in China and only exists because of the large number of Russians in Beijing during the cold war. I think a better comparison would be KTV's, BBS and Massage places. While not Beijing, the massage in the shanghai hotel compares quiet favourably with FKK's and i bet you can't get girls swinging around like monkeys using red velvet ropes while servicing you in a FKK club - or girls licking out your anal passage.
[QUOTE=Atlante18]Next month I will stay at The Great Wall Sheraton - Beijing. Is there any night club inside the hotel building, where I can pick up girls to bring to my room? What are the girls rates?
Many thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I haven't been inside the Sheraton for a long time, and from what I recall here, the nightclub inside isn't to be recommended and is overpriced. However, if you step outside the Sheraton, especially late at night on the walk over to Hard Rock Cafe, chances are you'll be accosted by several madams and pimps with offers of girls that are waiting in cars nearby. Alternatively, head into the Hard Rock Cafe after 11 pm, and you may find some selections worthy of consideration. Finally, there is often street action along the walkway from HRC to Lufthansa Center, just up the road.
I have been to Beijing many times over the years. It is amazing how the city has been changing. Hotels get better, traffic gets worse, only the girls stay the same.
My time is limited this time, so after a customer dinner, I went to Maggie's last night. Also wanted to check the advice I had given Steve Naive about the earliest time to pick someone from there. So I got there just before 11 PM and I think I was right. There were a fair share of girls there, although, as usual, it only became busy around 00:30
I was disappointed though by the lack of quality. Perhaps because this was Monday, although I have been there before on Mondays when the quality was good. Now most of the Mongolians were 4-5 in my book, and I only take out 8 or 9 (tastes fortunately differ of course).
Started chatting to one of the bargirls and even paid her a drink. As the regulars will know, normal drinks are 30 RMB (which is quite cheap in Beijing) but the bargirls drinks are 100 RMB. If you buy a drink for a Mongolian, that is a regular drink. Anyway, she was quite nice, from Guilin, fun to talk to, though not a stunner by far. She told me she earns 50 RMB per day, which is a piece of info I didn't have yet. Plus tips, but far from everyone tips her. So if you tip her 100 RMB (which is only 10 bucks guys), she is very happy.
More Mongolians had arrived by 00:30 but still no one I truly liked. So I declined repatedly when I was sollicited. There was one girl with shorter false blonde hair that was striking. I learnt from the bargirls she was very popular and it showed in her attitude, so I didn't pay too much attention either. I had been hoping to meet one of my favourites, but they may not be in Beijing at all.
Anyway, after a while Anna slid into the seat next to me. She was obviously tipsy, drinking Gin & Tonic, but she was good looking enough to talk to. I was not showing too much interest, and she was grabbing my leg and moving and you know. Suddenly I had this very funny experience with her. Her friend came up to her with another guy in tow, whispered something to Anna, she turns around and lost all interest in me in a split second and started chatting him up. That was so funny. Particularly after 15 minutes or so, she did exactly the same thing to him, turned back to me and put her hands to work again.
Asked about her price, which she said was 1000 RMB, but over the next hour it decreased to 800, 700, 600, without me negotiating at all. I hesitated as she was pretty drunk by then, but as she hit me with 500 I thought, what the heck and went for it anyway. Took her back to the Hilton, no sweat to get in as usual, I didn't even spot a guard at that time (it was just after 2 AM). Hit the shower before her and when I came back into the room she was sleeping on my bed. Hmm, what to do? Switched on the telly and watched HBO for a while. She woke up after 30 minutes or so, but was not in a state for fun anylonger, so I sent her on her way with only taxi money (she was ok with that after having checked herself if we had had sex or not and obviously found out negatively).
So I went to sleep as well.
By the way, even if you don't take out anyone, Maggie's is a good and fun bar. The drinks are not too expensive, the music is very much to my taste, the bartenders are friendly and although I always run a tap for which I have to give them my visa in advance they have never cheated me.
Tonight I will try Hollywood as I have never been there. I don't expect to take out anyone though as when I want Russians, I go to Russia. Just want to see it once what it is like.
I've been in Beijing for the past week and I tried two nights at Hollywood without any luck. The place is a bit creepy; dark and smokey, with lots empty tables that make you question whether its a bar or a restaurant. Drinks were expensive. There were small groups of 3-6 Russian girls huddled together talking and chain smoking, with a few Mongolian girls sprinkled in. No one was really that friendly, and there wasn't a single stunner in the whole bunch. I'd say that they were mostly 5s and 6s, but the only ones with any rack at all were older or more manly than me!
Both nights I tried to stick if out and wait for "fresh meat" to arrive, but gave up about 90 minutes and walked over to Maggies.
This is my last night in Beijing this month, if anyone's in town and wants to meet up, send me a PM. I doubt you'll talk me into heading back to Hollywood though. I'd love to compare notes and prepare for my next trip. ;-)
I'll post a report of my antics in the next few days.
-G
[QUOTE=Fredo24]...
Tonight I will try Hollywood as I have never been there. I don't expect to take out anyone though as when I want Russians, I go to Russia. Just want to see it once what it is like.[/QUOTE]
The talk of Erka below reminds of a funny story.
A couple of years ago, after a wonderful couple of hours with Erka, she allowed me to snap a photo of her, waist-up in the nude on my cell phone. I completely forgot about it and I rarely use my cell phone as a camera or look in the archives. I have since gotten a new cell phone but last month, my 14 year old son lost his phone so I rumaged arouond and found my old phone for him to use. Low and behold he finds the picture in about 5 minutes and wonders what the heck? For some reason the date on the photo was wrong and read the year 2000, well before I had the phone, so I just shrugged and replied that it must have been a refurbished model that someone had used previously.
When he's 18 I just might have to take him to Maggies and tell him the real story! I don't want to expose him to the hobby just yet.
Hi folks,
I'm in Beijing and want to have some fun of course.
I tried yesterday to go to Chun xiu Lu Sauna but albeit I found the street, actually I didnt find the sauna itself.
I passed by the Red House Hotel but afterwards there was nothing similar to a Sauna.
Will you please give m e the exact address or further informations h ow t o reach it?
Any other useful sauna address will be warmly appreciated as well.
Many thanks to everybody .
Will be making my first visit to Beijing next week and would appreciate contact details of some massage parlours or outcall girls in Beijing. Anything similar to ****** website for Hong Kong?
Thanks and hope to return the favour
[QUOTE=Expatriate Guy]Will be making my first visit to Beijing next week and would appreciate contact details of some massage parlours or outcall girls in Beijing. Anything similar to ****** website for Hong Kong?
Thanks and hope to return the favour[/QUOTE]Expat,
I expect to be in Beijing for a few nights from the 24th through the 26th. Perhaps we can meet up and compare notes. Saturday night would be best for me.
I haven't booked my hotel yet but will stay probably depending on availability at the Beijing International Hotel, the Kerry Centre Shangri-La or the Traders hotel.
From my experience in Beijing, in terms of Sauna's etc. It makes one appreciate Zhuhai and Shenzhen.
If any other readers have some suggestions, I would appreciate them as well, particularly for a high end sauna with a real good massage and then the choice of extras as an option.
If you can send me a private message, if you are not a member it's not that expensive to join so that you can include in your private message to me an email where I can reach you without having to go through the forum.
[QUOTE=Fredo24]
Started chatting to one of the bargirls and even paid her a drink. As the regulars will know, normal drinks are 30 RMB (which is quite cheap in Beijing) but the bargirls drinks are 100 RMB. If you buy a drink for a Mongolian, that is a regular drink. Anyway, she was quite nice, from Guilin, fun to talk to, though not a stunner by far. She told me she earns 50 RMB per day, which is a piece of info I didn't have yet. Plus tips, but far from everyone tips her. So if you tip her 100 RMB (which is only 10 bucks guys), she is very happy.
I found Fredo's comments to be interesting - the bar girls are quite nice and great to talk to. Do they get any commission on the 100 RMB drinks or only tips ?
[QUOTE=Fredo]Started chatting to one of the bargirls and even paid her a drink. As the regulars will know, normal drinks are 30 RMB (which is quite cheap in Beijing) but the bargirls drinks are 100 RMB. If you buy a drink for a Mongolian, that is a regular drink. Anyway, she was quite nice, from Guilin, fun to talk to, though not a stunner by far. She told me she earns 50 RMB per day, which is a piece of info I didn't have yet. Plus tips, but far from everyone tips her. So if you tip her 100 RMB (which is only 10 bucks guys), she is very happy.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Ontario Boy]I found Fredo's comments to be interesting - the bar girls are quite nice and great to talk to. Do they get any commission on the 100 RMB drinks or only tips ?[/QUOTE]First of all, I dont know which bars you frequent to come up with the belief that 30rmb for a Tsingtao is cheap in Beijing. (unless you meant in the 3-4 mongering joints?)
Personally, I dont see the point in talking to the chinese girls in Maggies. Why visit Maggies to spend money on girls who will not leave with you?? I'd rather go to one of the hundreds of other joints in town where you do not have to pay extortionate rates to talk to a bird. They might be really nice girls, but if you want to give to the poor, no need to go to Maggies to do so. Most of them know me now too! So they wont even talk to me anyway :D
Sid
Hello all,
First of all hello new to the forum not new to Beijing being here for two years now. I've been reading the forum and I have the feeling most is about Maggie's the pig and hollywood. If you have a car I would like to suggest the following place to you. Get on the highway to Tianjin and take exit No. 5, I think its called LAngfang. At the end of the exit just keep going straight to a wide road. There's a lot of BBS's there. I went there now couple of times lots of girls price FS ST about 100 RMB. Enjoy!
Maztermac:
Great report and thank you for sharing. I do visit the Wangjing MP from time to time too. I also find a lot of the girls there to be very GFE. But I haven't yet got one that would do FS, even when I do an outcall. That's including a girl that I'm getting very intimate with.
Can you please share the numbers of the two girls that did it for you?
Thanks!
Sniffer
[QUOTE=Maztermac]Haven't posted anything for quite some time and thought it's about time for me to contribute my exprience with this MP in WangJing. I've been visiting WangJing MP on and off for the past few months and for the last three visits instead of going to the MP I've ordered out. The girls have been coming to my hotel to provide a massage and handjob, or so I thought. On two occasions (two different girls) I managed to get a whole the whole shebang FS with totally GFE. The first time I just thought the girl just really digs me and wanted a boyfriend but the second girl who came a couple of days later was also the same. Both girls stayed longer that the allotted 90 minutes actually they stayed for 180 minutes so I had to pay for two sessions plus taxi fare. I'm starting to wonder if most of the girls provides this service when they're at the hotels? The great thing was no mention of any extra payment for the extra services, maybe it's included in the second session? Obvisously I've visited these girls at WangJing before but never expected to get FS for the price of a HJ.
66.66% hit rate is not to bad. Anyone have a similar exprience there?
MazterMac[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Atlante18]Next month I will stay at The Great Wall Sheraton - Beijing. Is there any night club inside the hotel building, where I can pick up girls to bring to my room? What are the girls rates?
Many thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]
Hi Atlante18,
All the information you want can be found in this forum without having to read too far back. Check out [b]Sammy_T's Beginners Guide to Beijing[/b] a few pages back (or try the search feature). Read my report on the 3rd Ring Road sidewalk girls (a page or two back) that are near SGW for prices they charge. Find out about the favorite bars, and alternative places that offers services, like massage and sauna places.
You did not ask, but SGW is reasonably girl-friendly. I've never had a problem there.
And please, write a report about your experiences - where, when, who, what, and how much. This is a two-way forum.
Thanks, and welcome.
Steve Naive
As of the bargirls at St. Margarets and Bar One, they earn like a 5% commission per drink but they need to complete a quota. If they don't complete it, they get their salaries deducted. Actually coming to think about it, its quite tough for these girls to have to chump up $1500 per month for the bar only for her drinks and only take away at the most $200. Actually the 50rmb per day is quite high, of the girls I know, they only get rmb30 a day. That's why I always leave a small tip and they give me all the tips about the girls.
I suppose this is a funny question, but I am looking for a quality provider that is top of the line. Money is not a question, if the girl is worth it.
Anyone have any ideas? Thanks in advance for the suggestions.
[QUOTE=Dutchboy7908]Hello all,
First of all hello new to the forum not new to Beijing being here for two years now. I've been reading the forum and I have the feeling most is about Maggie's the pig and hollywood. If you have a car I would like to suggest the following place to you. Get on the highway to Tianjin and take exit No. 5, I think its called LAngfang. At the end of the exit just keep going straight to a wide road. There's a lot of BBS's there. I went there now couple of times lots of girls price FS ST about 100 RMB. Enjoy![/QUOTE]Hmmmmmm, Dutchboy, this LangFang spot sounds interesting as I have business down there too. If you have PM feature, I should maybe contact for more details.
AllDay,
I have a suggestion,
How about you use all this money you have to pay the forum $20 and take full advantage of the information on offer. Fuck sake!!!!
Sid
You are BRILLIANT! But, what happens if I have already done that, yet still hope that someone is nice enough to provide a little directed information my way. I guess, in such case, that nice person wouldn't be you.
[QUOTE=AllDay]I suppose this is a funny question, but I am looking for a quality provider that is top of the line. Money is not a question, if the girl is worth it.
Anyone have any ideas? Thanks in advance for the suggestions.[/QUOTE]I realize this guy is a newbie (as am I, to Beijing anyway), but I think this is an interesting question. Most of the topics on this board are about a different market segment. I think Passions (still in business, I forget?) girls are pricey, I assume quality is pretty high. Sammy's guide has some mention, I think -- do a search AllDay. I'll go back when I get a moment.
If I were in Europe or the US, this would be easy. My googling of China has been unsuccessful. I also seem to remember some of the senior members saying something along the lines of "the really hot ones don't need to be WG with foreigners, they can do very well with some extremely wealthy Chinese."
But correct me if I'm wrong, further the discussion, etc.
NBG
[QUOTE=AllDay]I suppose this is a funny question, but I am looking for a quality provider that is top of the line. Money is not a question, if the girl is worth it.
Anyone have any ideas? Thanks in advance for the suggestions.[/QUOTE]To all day,
Go to paradise ktv basement of landmark hotel , I was there 2 night ago many top quality model most want 1000rmb and up for LT and the ktv room cost 2000 rmb and up they even have some russian there.
Fast eddie 48
[QUOTE=AllDay]You are BRILLIANT! But, what happens if I have already done that, yet still hope that someone is nice enough to provide a little directed information my way. I guess, in such case, that nice person wouldn't be you.[/QUOTE]Hmm, Suppose I do tend to over react sometimes. Especially if you note the time I posted and understand I was absolutely wankered.
I do believe there is a certain limit however. Passions for example being almost as high as you can possibly pay. Going above that would involve a money sucking Girlfriend which, unfortunately, would probably be the only thing she was good at sucking. I havent came across direct P4P much more than the 2500rmb LT you hear about for Russian girls. But then, their service is often nowhere near as good as it should be. For quality providers, I would actually recommend dropping your standards. You will actually SAVE money, and have twice the experience. You didnt specify the quality of looks after all.
Sid
How did the story go on? Last thing I remembered she wanted to show up in Shanghai. Any news to tell.
Not to be pushy, but I really liked that story in the making. :D
[QUOTE=Ontario Boy][QUOTE=Fredo24]
Started chatting to one of the bargirls and even paid her a drink. As the regulars will know, normal drinks are 30 RMB (which is quite cheap in Beijing) but the bargirls drinks are 100 RMB. If you buy a drink for a Mongolian, that is a regular drink. Anyway, she was quite nice, from Guilin, fun to talk to, though not a stunner by far. She told me she earns 50 RMB per day, which is a piece of info I didn't have yet. Plus tips, but far from everyone tips her. So if you tip her 100 RMB (which is only 10 bucks guys), she is very happy.
I found Fredo's comments to be interesting - the bar girls are quite nice and great to talk to. Do they get any commission on the 100 RMB drinks or only tips ?[/QUOTE]
She told me she didn't get any commissions, except on Saturday when she would get 15%.
[QUOTE=SidTheSexist]First of all, I dont know which bars you frequent to come up with the belief that 30rmb for a Tsingtao is cheap in Beijing. (unless you meant in the 3-4 mongering joints?)
Personally, I dont see the point in talking to the chinese girls in Maggies. Why visit Maggies to spend money on girls who will not leave with you?? I'd rather go to one of the hundreds of other joints in town where you do not have to pay extortionate rates to talk to a bird. They might be really nice girls, but if you want to give to the poor, no need to go to Maggies to do so. Most of them know me now too! So they wont even talk to me anyway :D
Sid[/QUOTE]
I should have qualified that 30 RMB is indeed cheap only for the mongering bars or hotel bars. Elsewhere you can drink cheaper.
I don't understand why you seem aggravated that I like to talk to the Chinese girls at Maggie's. I like to understand their world. They are also quite knowledgeable about some of the Mongolians, who is nice and who is not. For me it is part of the fun.
[QUOTE=Dutchboy7908]Hello all,
First of all hello new to the forum not new to Beijing being here for two years now. I've been reading the forum and I have the feeling most is about Maggie's the pig and hollywood. If you have a car I would like to suggest the following place to you. Get on the highway to Tianjin and take exit No. 5, I think its called LAngfang. At the end of the exit just keep going straight to a wide road. There's a lot of BBS's there. I went there now couple of times lots of girls price FS ST about 100 RMB. Enjoy![/QUOTE]Langfang / Xianghe exit is about 35kms from BJ 3rd ring. I don't remember seeing BBS by going straight after the exit: it's a wide new road with nothing on the side except companies and a small countryside village at the end (T crossroad). Is it in this area? On my side, I would say you have to turn right at the exit and then go straight. You have BBS on this wide road, after the university city gate.
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]To all day,
Go to paradise ktv basement of landmark hotel , I was there 2 night ago many top quality model most want 1000rmb and up for LT and the ktv room cost 2000 rmb and up they even have some russian there.
Fast eddie 48[/QUOTE]
Eddis yes I have seen the 'stunners' in basement of Landmark - literally dozens of them.
Can you arrange take-out without utilizing the KTV first?
Was getting bored, so went to Hollywood to pick up some chick. Ended up leaving with this russian girl name elaine/elena? Tall, skinny and really small boob. Bad skin, but she looked better at hollywood when its dark. She doesn't speak any english at all and it was difficult to communicate. Standard price, no kissing, everything is safe.
I wandered in there once on my own. Since I can't speak a word of Mandarin, I had a hard time figuring out exactly what the options were. After a couple of false starts trying to get information out of the staff, I found out that you could take out the girls but that is cost 3000 RMB to do so. Maybe it's less if you speak the language. I never did figure out the protocol for choosing a girl.
The KTV seemed prohibitively expensive to do on my own, and frankly didn't seem like it would be all that fun to be "singing and drinking" with half a dozen girls that couldn't really speak English.
Maybe it would be worth trying the KTV experience with couple of ISG buddies...
G
[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]Eddis yes I have seen the 'stunners' in basement of Landmark - literally dozens of them.
Can you arrange take-out without utilizing the KTV first?[/QUOTE]
Hi,
May I know if the Holiday Inn Central Plaza is girl friendly?
[QUOTE=Dutchboy7908]Hello all,
First of all hello new to the forum not new to Beijing being here for two years now. I've been reading the forum and I have the feeling most is about Maggie's the pig and hollywood. If you have a car I would like to suggest the following place to you. Get on the highway to Tianjin and take exit No. 5, I think its called LAngfang. At the end of the exit just keep going straight to a wide road. There's a lot of BBS's there. I went there now couple of times lots of girls price FS ST about 100 RMB. Enjoy![/QUOTE]Hello Dutchboy,
Is this the area near the Oriental University town ? I mean...the wide road on the right just as one exits the toll gate.
Thank you to anyone for tips here. I'm going to land in BJ in 10 days. Its my first time coming to China, I'm a caucasion english speaking guy. One goal for my holiday in PRC is to fullfill my lifelong fantasy of having 2 women at once, and having them be completely interactive with each other. Anything goes. Its something I want to experience at least once in my lifetime!
So my question is where would I go to fullfill such a quest. I'm assuming that in the MP/BBS its a 1 on 1 experience. I guess I'm hoping that someone experienced in BJ can point me in the right direction.
JS
Hi there,
Im a newbie in Beijing hanging out until May 28th. Is there anyone in Beijing now that wouldn't mind I tag along to hang out? Im from the states in my early thirties, pretty easy going.
From what i read in the forum, it seems Pigs, Hollywood and Maggies are places to go. Can anyone recommend any good sauna or massage places as well?
Thanks in advance,
Pete
I would also be interested in forming a group for the Landmark KTV. PM me and we'll talk about it.
[QUOTE=Brasscork]Hi,
May I know if the Holiday Inn Central Plaza is girl friendly?[/QUOTE]They all are. According to local rumors, 50% of the guests at the Holiday Inn Lido are there with local talent.
Gary,
I would be interested in going with a group to 'inspect' and report on the situation. Any other takers? PM me, Gary, and we'll work on setting up a time.
[QUOTE=Fredo24]I have been to Beijing many times over the years. It is amazing how the city has been changing. Hotels get better, traffic gets worse, only the girls stay the same. .[/QUOTE]
Not really. Quality of St. Margaret BAR girls definitely went down after Tony, the previous manager, left, and his successor made some not so brilliant staffing changes. Quality of Mongolian workers still same, YMMV.
[QUOTE=Fredo24]Anyway, after a while Anna slid into the seat next to me. She was obviously tipsy, drinking Gin & Tonic, but she was good looking enough to talk to. I was not showing too much interest, and she was grabbing my leg and moving and you know. Suddenly I had this very funny experience with her. Her friend came up to her with another guy in tow, whispered something to Anna, she turns around and lost all interest in me in a split second and started chatting him up. That was so funny. Particularly after 15 minutes or so, she did exactly the same thing to him, turned back to me and put her hands to work again. [/QUOTE]Ah, what you experienced was the attempt to set up a 3some. The other guy (it may have been me) had picked the friend and instructed her to pick another girl she's comfortable to get naked with. Obviously in your case, that transaction wasn't closed, and attention reversed back to you.
[QUOTE=Fredo24] Hit the shower before her and when I came back into the room she was sleeping on my bed. Hmm, what to do? Switched on the telly and watched HBO for a while. She woke up after 30 minutes or so, but was not in a state for fun anylonger, so I sent her on her way with only taxi money.[/QUOTE]That's the risk of doing business a bit too late. Some of the Mongolians have been in the sauce quite heavily at that point. This can either get you a low priced LT .... or nothing at all.
[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]Eddis yes I have seen the 'stunners' in basement of Landmark - literally dozens of them.
Can you arrange take-out without utilizing the KTV first?[/QUOTE]To bad boy silly
If you slip a bill to the host and let them know you just want a take out and have done this without getting a room and I don't even drink but the girl want 2000 rmb for all night and the hot one will not go for any less than 1500 rmb even if you try to bargin, you can also try the lobby or outside the hotel some freelancer but quality is only 5-6 I even saw a few russian .
Fast eddie 48
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]To bad boy silly
If you slip a bill to the host and let them know you just want a take out and have done this without getting a room and I don't even drink but the girl want 2000 rmb for all night and the hot one will not go for any less than 1500 rmb even if you try to bargin, you can also try the lobby or outside the hotel some freelancer but quality is only 5-6 I even saw a few russian .
Fast eddie 48[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the info mate.
I actually sat at a table at the top of the excalator with a friend of mine about 12 months ago - we were there about from 7pm on for 2 hours waiting for 2 girls to show up to go to dinner.
I just could not believe the continual stream of stunners going down the escalator - we went down the following night and said we just wanted to drink at the bar but could get virtually no service at all.
I will try again next visit - thanks again.
[QUOTE=Fredo24]I don't understand why you seem aggravated that I like to talk to the Chinese girls at Maggie's. I like to understand their world.[/QUOTE]Im not aggravated at all. I was only stating that I find no point in going to Maggies to talk to a "normal" girl. If you think about it, it does seem a bit odd. I have been through it already. They respond to adverts for waitress work in a expat/international club. The adverts play on their desire to practice English and the interview basically involves some guy deciding whether she is good enough looking. They then get the job and go on to shit themselves on the first night when they discover what they have signed up for. Very nice girls, but they are by no means WGs.
Just trying to help the newbies.
Sid
[QUOTE=Gentle01]Hello Dutchboy,
Is this the area near the Oriental University town ? I mean...the wide road on the right just as one exits the toll gate.[/QUOTE]Yes its just after the toll. Anyway there are two exits both called langfang if I'm not mistaken. It should be the second one. It is very obvious. Really a street full!
Hello All,
Just went for my lunchbreak to the Wangjing MP. It's difficult to find but the reward is big. I had girl No. 9 a slim petite who licked me while see was giving me a HJ. And a nice massage as well! Really worth trying!
Grtz,
Dutchboy
Some time ago it was debated the obvious here: it is hghly recommendable to have chinese address written down for taxi drivers in order to get to desired destination.
Therefore, I remembered that some time ago I had posted a few business cards.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=537505&postcount=4853[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=541067&postcount=4905[/url]
Some I had taken, some I had stolen from someone else's report.
I don't know the number in BJ, but in Shanghai you can send a text message to 85887 and give the name of the hotel, restaurant or bar and you will receive a return message with the address and phone number in English.
Then if you "reply" the letter "C" you will receive the same info in Chinese which you can then show the taxi driver.
Work well.
ES
Well, i'll tell you that I haven't been to BJ in about 2 years since I moved away. I had lived there for about 5 years.
Went to a few regular haunts-
-a great KTV place down south of Guomao by about 3 km
-The Den
-Maggies
--the usual
-- Also, I attempted to chat up a few locals in ICQ to get a freebie or two.
1. KTV- as usual, it was a great place. Girls will easily get naked for you, go out with you for 600 rmb, good looking girls, it's just out of the way so it's a little less expensive than the norm in Chaoyang.
2. The Den- Other than the surrounding buildings, not much has changed. A boatload of Russians one night, a few very nice looking too.
3. Maggies- Now, for those of you that think the quality is down, alL I can say is I think you're wrong. After not having been there for a couple of years, I was amazed at how good looking the girls were. It was a pleasant surprise as I was expecting the same old gals. Although, there were still a few I banged a couple of years ago, so not all has changed.
4. ICQ, I chatted up a girl on ICQ that lived near Chaoyang and 4th Ring. We chatted for about 1 hour and I told her to come on over and I'd teach her some things. She's 32, fairly good looking, and very nice. She says she can't, cuz she's on her period, I told her OK, that I only expected a blow job then.
next day, she shows up, gets to the BJ and takes it like a champ.
Next day, she does it again, but during the BJ, asks if I want to try anal sex. Now, I wasn't sure if she was talking about me or her. Luckily she meant that I'd bang her. So, I did. she was great.
She knew I didn't live there any more and she was coming to a hotel for a evening of fucking a stranger. hhmm, this place is great, what an easy place to get laid......
5. Next night, coming home alone- and a little drunk, I was accosted by one of those little tout gals- You know the ones- "lady bar", "massage",
"young beautiful chinese girl" ringing in your ears as you try to ignore her. well, she was actually OK looking. A little older, about 30, but cute looking. I told her I didn't want a young girl, I wanted her. She said no, she's not a xiaojie and that she would call one for me. Nope, want YOU, if not you, then don't bother. Then, I walked to my hotel as she walked behind me. She repeated that she was not a hooker (year right) but, since i looked nice, she'd go with me. 400 rmb. Nope, too much.
At this point, i was just trying to get my drunk ass to my room and go to sleep. She said, 300rmb, nope, gotta go.......followed me to my elevator and said 200rmb....OK, hell...that's almost free.......
She came up, bbbj, fuck, bbbjtc-----said she loves me..gave her 200, CYA later.
What a great city.
Good luck brothers
Just Me
Here is my first report at Dadi Garden Hotel in Haidian District near Beijing DaXue:
They appear to be girl friendly. The lobbyists and security dont seem to care whenever girls come along with me late at night. Im sure they must know whats going on. You can get rooms at this hotel at bargain prices at around 280 yuan/night or something. But dont expect a five star hotel.
They apparently have a massage clinic on the first floor that has "terbie de" service. I dont know the name of it, because I dont read a lick of chinese. Every night the mamasan calls my room asking if I want a massage. Originally I thought it was a legit place with regular massages and the girl that came to my room was very attractive. But after massaging for about 30 minutes, she starts massaging my special area and asks if I want other services. She wasn't cheap though, HJ 400, BJ 600, and FS is 1000. Her name was Li Feng and she has a good attitude but unfortunatley pushes a lot for FS in an alluring way. She has pretty face and very nice slim body, unfortunately I haven't learned how to coerce girls into letting me take their pics, so I can show you guys to see. Unfortunately she had small boobs and which Im a boob lover, but the rest of her was hot enough to get me going.
If anyone knows of any hot girls with biguns and a good body in Beijing please let know. Also the mamasan herself charges 168 an hour, so you're gonna have to learn how to negotiate with the girl to bring the price down.
I just spend a week in beijing and I would really reccomend to all of you this agency, the adress is: [url]www.stayinbeijing.com[/url].
You will interact with a girl named cin that speak perfect english and she is willing to help you with all you need.
The apartment that I booked was 5 min (with taxi, or 15 walking)from tiennamen square and the forbidden city, and if you stay for a week or more there is also a free tour of the great wall of china.
I payed 235 for a one bedroom apartment cleaned everyday and I had not problem with guest!
I needed to go to the train station to buy a ticket for shanghai and cin did it for me without asking any extra money and she gave me all the info I needed. She told me that she manage about 25 different apartment all close to the touristic staff, if you want a place to bring your chinise conquest without worrying about anything check the site out, I was very happy about the all thing and I hope you will be too.
As for the mongering I was a bit disappointed with what was on offers, the girls were really good looking and willing to please me in any way I wanted but what I really wanted was chinise pussy and what I got was a lot of philippinas and russians.
[QUOTE=varrick]Hi folks,
I'm in Beijing and want to have some fun of course.
I tried yesterday to go to Chun xiu Lu Sauna but albeit I found the street, actually I didnt find the sauna itself.
I passed by the Red House Hotel but afterwards there was nothing similar to a Sauna.
Will you please give m e the exact address or further informations h ow t o reach it?
Any other useful sauna address will be warmly appreciated as well.
Many thanks to everybody .[/QUOTE]If you are standing on the street looking at the Red House, the sauana is down the street to the left. The sign is all Chinese. There are glass doors on the entrance, and you see a fairly large lobby with a desk to the left side. This is the place. Someone will be standing in the lobby and take you to the desk for you to tell them what you want.
Hello Folks,
I just got to Beijing on business and am staying at the Ritz. Anyone want to hang out and have a drink or so, or may be get me initiated to the pleasures this wonderful city offers?
Shoot me a PM, I usually get done around 5:30p and have really not much to do after that.
Thanks
Okzgen
[QUOTE=Disaster53]I just spend a week in beijing and I would really reccomend to all of you this agency, the adress is: [url]www.stayinbeijing.com[/url].
You will interact with a girl named cin that speak perfect english and she is willing to help you with all you need.
The apartment that I booked was 5 min (with taxi, or 15 walking)from tiennamen square and the forbidden city, and if you stay for a week or more there is also a free tour of the great wall of china.
I payed 235 for a one bedroom apartment cleaned everyday and I had not problem with guest!
I needed to go to the train station to buy a ticket for shanghai and cin did it for me without asking any extra money and she gave me all the info I needed. She told me that she manage about 25 different apartment all close to the touristic staff, if you want a place to bring your chinise conquest without worrying about anything check the site out, I was very happy about the all thing and I hope you will be too.
As for the mongering I was a bit disappointed with what was on offers, the girls were really good looking and willing to please me in any way I wanted but what I really wanted was chinise pussy and what I got was a lot of philippinas and russians.[/QUOTE]
Disaster - you paid 235 what? RMB? US$? Euro?
You were disappointed in the girls on offer where?
Filipino girls in Beijing - have I missed something - I know there is a shitload in Shanghai but Beijing?
Where did you get the Russians my friend?
If you wanted Chinese girls did you not RTFF?
Chinese girls in droves at Lido, Hard Rock, outside Lfthansa Centre / Sheraton areaor just walk any street in Beijing and make eye contact with every cutie - tell us more please.
This place is easier to find at night. The first time I went there I walked past it 3 times and finally ended up going down the alley next door to the building to a different (low end) massage place. I punted and went to the Pizza Hut across the street for dinner; when I came out I figured I'd take one last look around. It was starting to get dark then and they had turned on their neon lights so it was easy to spot. I went in, confirmed it was the place I was looking for, and got a business card from them so I could show it to a taxi driver to get back there again.
Good luck trying to navigate without speaking Mandarin. I went very late at night for my visit there, and I ended up buying a set of ridiculous, ill fitting pajamas that I wore to walk up the stairs then later discarded when I came back down to get showered and changed back into my street clothes. Since I was the only person in the Sauna (so I couldn't copy what others were doing) and couldn't speak the language, I didn't know the protocol. I would have saved a few bucks and been much more comfortable showering, getting redressed in my own clothes, then going upstairs. Is this acceptable? Without being able to communicate I just ended up going with the flow.
I hesitant to go back until I can get some local help ;-)
G
I paid 235 rmb, it would have been way to expensive in any other currency.
As for the girl, it's true that there are a lot of Chinese to be had but not at the price I wanted to pay, so it exclude Hard Rock, saunas and so on. I'm too used at the price I pay in Thailand and Philippines and Cambodia.
The russian I saw where in the pig.
[QUOTE=Brasscork]Hi,
May I know if the Holiday Inn Central Plaza is girl friendly?[/QUOTE]Yes, it is. I've had no problems there in the past ocassions.
I paid another visit to the Chun Xiu Sauna and had mixed experiences.
I went around 8PM so the place was not crowded. I also found out that it is a mixed place as I saw some European ladies ( Russians ??) on the stairs heading for the 2nd Floor bar area. They were in robes so appeared to be patrons.
The changing room staff tried the PJ game again starting off with ridiculous prices I just ignored. I understand a lttle mandarin but in a situation like this it is best to use the dumb Laowai act and just say no and at one point I even made like I was going to leave. Eventually we settled on a 30 RMB pair which is OK but a pain in the a-- getting there.
Upstairs I was presented with a grand line up of "2" (apparently no one else was available - more likely it was these girls' turn ) - they were 823 and 828. I had been with 823 and while she was good it was not spectacular as I had experienced in other places. This left 828 . I checked 828's reviews after I got back and wish I had done so before, An earlier report said that she was mechanical and a bit of a "cold fish" I agree - very mechanical no undo touching and definetely no kissing. I had to threaten to throw her out to get her to even loosen up a bit. This is very unusual for me as I usually have a good rapport with the girls -being in my 50's helps. Total damage for the "hour" was 919 which i s too much based on what I got in return.
I don't think speaking Manadrin would improve anything as I do fine elsewhere with my limited vocabulary and sign language. The stafff all know what we are there for so once you confirm they take it from there. The only thing I regret is not being able to complain properly about poor girl service or the little scams people try.
In summary I am becoming more and more dissatisfied with Chun Xiu both with the PJ game and the wide variety in girl cooperation. I will probably not return
BTW someone earlier mentionned a sauna on Guanggu Lu or Guanggumen in south east Beijing - do you have any more details ??
I also went to Chun Xiu Sauna and I won't go to that place again.
Here my reason for not going:
- they try to sell you a stupid pajamas
- could not choose the girl
- the girl was "cold fish", no kissing, no BBBJ
- massage itself was not as good as I had in Shanghai
- too expensive, more than 900RMB. In Shanghai I paid only 550RMB for a much better service (kissing, BBBJ, 2x coming, rimmjob) with a very beautiful and motivated girl.
Someone mentioned another Sauna for 500RMB near the XiBaHe bus station. I found the bus station and checked the area but couldn't find the Sauna.
This week I met up with a few friends mid-week and we decided to check out the Russian hang-outs. First we went to Absinthe. If you are walking from Maggie's you would head west (right), down the street. The first intersection with a stop light you will see the Moscow Restaurant. You should cross the street and keep heading west. At the next major intersection turn right (north). You will walk down the street and see a large building on your left. Absinthe/The Elephant Bar is located in the basement of this building. There is a lot of neon, and escalators take you down stairs, so it is hard to miss.
We arrived around 10 pm on a week night, and it was not that busy. First impression is that it is an upscale place. We sat down at a table and ordered some drinks. It is setup similar to a dinner theater, with a large stage area will they will do some performances - dancing and singing in both Chinese and Russian. Girls in show-girl style outfits, but nothing special to look at. There were maybe 4 girls sitting at the bar. I made eye contact with them and got a smile, indicating they were in the game, but none of them were worth crossing the room. A majority of the tables were empty, but a few tables had girls sitting at them. I approached a table of 3 girls and asked them if they would like to join me and my friends for a drink. They were not rude, but not friendly either, and simply told me they were waiting for someone.
We did order some of the bars name sake liquor. It was served in a very interesting way - they bring out 4 martini glasses and fill them with liquor. They then take several bar glasses and stack them one on top of another, on top of the martini glasses. Next they take a snifter of brandy, set it on fire, and pour it down the glasses. It flames up, and you drink from the martini glasses with a straw while it is flaming. Worth a trip to the bar just to order this drink!
Around 11 pm we headed over to Hollywood. It is also in walking distance from Maggie's. This time you turn north at the first intersection, where the Moscow Restaurant is located. Hollywood is located on the left side of the road, just before you get to the Ritan hotel. Paid the cover to get in, and learned that no, this does not include a free drink. 4 big Chinese bouncers at the door took our tickets. Once inside we made a loop around the bar. It was full of Russian girls, and a few Mongolian girls. As we looked around the room some girls said hello, and others made eye contact, but this was mostly the less attractive ones. The attractive ones just sat there talking amongst themselves. We settled at a spot at the bar and ordered some beers. There was a group of girls standing next to us so I tried to strike up a conversation with one that I thought was cute. Her only reply was "800 RMB, one shot we go back to your hotel." That was it. She smiled, and seemed friendly, but was not about to engage in any additional conversation. We saw what looked like a female Russian pimp - a woman too old and unattractive to be on the game, who looked like she was in charge of the girls. I approached her and asked if she was in charge. She just said I was mistaken and turned and walked away. I could understand all of this negative attitude if the place was crawling with guys and the business was so good that they could turn people away, but there were very few other guys in the joint. After my friends struck out in a similar manor we decided to walk down to Maggie's where we all felt at home, and had a great time.
While the Russian girls intrigue me, I do not think I will be heading back that way anytime soon.
Sammy
Hi Sammy,
While I too am always baffled by the distant and seemingly unfriendly attitude of the Russian women, I think that it is mainly a different mindset that causes them to appear so aloof. (Eastern European women, especially Russian are a different breed mentally) I have had take-out from Hollywood many times and without exception, once free of the Hollywood, each girl was a good companion and occassionally bordered a GF experience. It usually takes a bit of affable coercion on my part but what the hell, the return is always worth the effort.
Once, as I detailed in a previous report, the she-pimp invited me to Treasure Island to join them for dinner and drinks. This was after the usual cold fish attitude from a couple of her girls when testing the water and even boss lady was never all that warm to me. Amongst themselves that evening, they still never appeared to be all that happy. But, the she-pimp even offered to pay when I was leaving and pulling out some cash.
Just my experience and I'm 47, I'm not male model or even close to it but I am in good shape and know how to close a deal with a smile. Once in the taxi, it has always been well worth my time and money to pick-up Russian take-out and often the service has been memorable.
My two yuan.
Sammy
Welcome to Hollywood - hasn't it just got the weirdest atmosphere?
But do remember - you are not Chinese and will take longer than 3 strokes to cum - so you are not a desireable customer for them.
And these is more to the story too - RMB800 as quick as they can get you off - no kissing - no pics - I have even had 1 stunner from there who would not undress totally - rolled her top down - dropped her pants and said get on.
Now that is 'mechanical service'.
Still I have had a couple of gems from here too - once again - luck of the draw - chemistry - you know how it goes.
Makes Maggies look like heaven on earth doesn't it?
See you next month my friend - was Intransit with you this night?
I reckon I have done around 100-150 Russian girls over the years in different parts of the world. I can only think of a couple that were not mechanical. I specifically remember one in Macau and another in Singapore. Most others were very technically proficient, but absolutely zero GFE. The girls from other parts of the former USSR in Hollywood have resulted in simiar experiences. I think that this is just the "nature of the beast" so to speak. It is purely business for them. I am curious how the girls inside Russia perform. Anybody tried them on their local turf?
Just my POV.
OAH
[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]Sammy
Welcome to Hollywood - hasn't it just got the weirdest atmosphere?
But do remember - you are not Chinese and will take longer than 3 strokes to cum - so you are not a desireable customer for them.
And these is more to the story too - RMB800 as quick as they can get you off - no kissing - no pics - I have even had 1 stunner from there who would not undress totally - rolled her top down - dropped her pants and said get on.
Now that is 'mechanical service'.
Still I have had a couple of gems from here too - once again - luck of the draw - chemistry - you know how it goes.
Makes Maggies look like heaven on earth doesn't it?
See you next month my friend - was Intransit with you this night?[/QUOTE]
I saw 6 BBSes on the east side of Chunxiu Lu between Dongzhimenwai and Gongti Lu. A cluster of three were just 200 meters south of the Chunxiu Lu sauna. There was also a larger BBS on the west side of Xindong Jie (which runs parallel to and is just east of Chunxiu Lu) just south of Dongzhimenwai. I was with my GF here, so wasn't able to go in to inquire about prices, etc. From the street, the selection looked good, about 3-4 girls in each, and some of them looked hot--very leggy and some were actually busty.
I did a search on BBS and Chunxiu, but only got reviews on the Chunxiu Lu sauna (which is quite expensive, even for Beijing--most local saunas are no more than Y600 for 1 hour of FS, though they are not generally as big or flashy as the Chunxiu Lu one). Any info?
Happy mongering!
Xiangjiao states that he saw "6 BBSes on the east side of Chunxiu Lu between Dongzhimenwai and Gongti Lu. A cluster of three were just 200 meters south of the Chunxiu Lu sauna. "
I reported on some of these some time ago. In sum, the place I visited offered only hand jobs and was not terribly friendly. However, it could be that the other places are better.
Sometimes BBS girls are better than sauna girls in that it is easier to date them later and take them out of the shop if you have a place to go. I would be interested in hearing more.
[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]I reckon I have done around 100-150 Russian girls over the years in different parts of the world. I can only think of a couple that were not mechanical. I specifically remember one in Macau and another in Singapore. Most others were very technically proficient, but absolutely zero GFE. The girls from other parts of the former USSR in Hollywood have resulted in simiar experiences. I think that this is just the "nature of the beast" so to speak. It is purely business for them. I am curious how the girls inside Russia perform. Anybody tried them on their local turf?
Just my POV.
OAH[/QUOTE]
OAH - Absolutely on the money mate - just business.
I did get an exception from Hollywood once - 18yo Lola from Moscow - absolutely everything on the table no probs - except anal.
Even let me video the blow job - no time limit at all - but they are a rarity.
I will PM you with a Russian girls details in Shanghai - she works Manhattan and Tongren Lu - she definitely provides GFE but details not for public consumption.
Ontario & other Chun Xiu'ers,
I had a great session with 817 over the weekend. It was pretty late (4am) and I was almost off the planet with drink, but from what I do remember, she was real good fun. Great body, good service, and GFE. She told me that she actually lives in the sauna but thats a new one to me so not sure how true it is. As were into it, she offered me a rather odd looking condom which had a vibrating base. I would have given it a go, but for 88rmb, I decided to proceed without.
I also discovered that it is only 190rmb/person for 12 hours in the normal double rooms. Obviously, excluding the girls but I'm sure if you were to take your own girl with you, there would be no problem using this as an overnight stoppover. These are really nice rooms too, the only problem being that there is no toilet so you must put your pyjamas back on and walk down the hall (not far).
PS, the foreign credit card machine was down over the weekend so best to check before hand if you want to use it. This was the first time in 6 months I ever had a problem.
Sid
Unfortunately, I didn't have many experiences with Russians like you had. I say unfortunately, as all those I had were very mind blowing.
I can only report comments from a friend of mine who usually mongers in Russia, who states that Russian girls are best possible experience.
So, maybe they export bad quality and keep good quality for them.
[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]
...
I am curious how the girls inside Russia perform. Anybody tried them on their local turf ?
[/QUOTE]
I was in Beijing last week and decided to call for a Russian girl with a number from one of cards that were lying around in the cab...big mistake and
a total waste of RMB1,500. Two girls came to my room and I chose the prettier one. Totally mechanical experience...no kissing, CBJ and then just lay there as I took her missionery. Had much better experiences Russian girls in Moscow and Dubai, but the best experience was with a Russian-Chilean girl in Santiago.
Back to Beijing...was at Maggies on a Thurs night and the place was rocking from 10 pm and more girls kept pouring closer to midnight. Took a 23-year-old Chinese girl for RMB1,200 for a total GFE.
[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]I reckon I have done around 100-150 Russian girls over the years in different parts of the world. I can only think of a couple that were not mechanical. I specifically remember one in Macau and another in Singapore. Most others were very technically proficient, but absolutely zero GFE. The girls from other parts of the former USSR in Hollywood have resulted in simiar experiences. I think that this is just the "nature of the beast" so to speak. It is purely business for them. I am curious how the girls inside Russia perform. Anybody tried them on their local turf?
Just my POV.
OAH[/QUOTE]
This place is an upscale sauna that looks about as big as the Chunxiu Lu sauna. It's called Taipingyang 太平洋 (Pacific), and it's right off of Gongti Lu just east of Chunxiu Lu. You have to drive or walk inside a big set of gates and then follow the signs into an alley off the right that leads you to the parking lot (with BMWs and Benzes) in front of the main entrance. I haven't bothered to do a search on this place, so there may be other reviews.
I was looking for FS, and this place intrigued me. I kept saying to the guy who arranged for the girl that I wanted full service--quan tao, quan shen, shenme dou baokuo (everything's included). He kept nodding, and the place had all the signs of a FS sauna. Unfortunately, I should've been much more specific. I should've asked if they offered "zuo ai" (making love) or "xingjiao" (intercourse). So I didn't find out that they only offer HJs until I had picked my girl, and she gotten all her stuff, and I was naked and told her to take her clothes off too. What a surprise. Apparently, they would get fired if they were caught doing FS. But she was so cute and sexy with curves in all the right places that I went ahead with it. Y568 for 1.5 hours of HJ with lots of cuddling, DFK, and a little digits play. She got me off twice in the 1.5 hours.
So if you're looking for a luxurious HJ, try this place. Otherwise, don't bother.
The first floor is intimidating, with three bao an guards manning the door and the elevators. You have to take an elevator a floor up to register and take your shower/bath. The massage rooms are on the fifth floor. I saw female clients too checking out. This place is a club of some sort, so I think you can get a discount if you buy a membership card.
I did manage to meet the cute girl after her shift at 1am and got a freebie out of it. But Y568 for HJ is really steep! Btw, YMMV.
I visited the six BBSes along Chunxiu lu between Dongzhimenwai and Gongti Lu. Only one offered FS. The rest offered HJ. I only wanted FS, so I didn't bother to inquire about HJ prices, but I was quoted a range of Y50-168 for the HJ.
The place that offers FS is the second one down when walking from Dongzhimenwai. Walking south, you'll pass the Chunxiu Lu sauna and go around a slight bend in the road. After you pass a bigger BBS, you'll see two right next to each other. It's the northern one.
The first, bigger BBS had a better selection of babes. If I just wanted a HJ from a hot babe, I'd go to that one.
At the FS BBS, I picked the cutest, tightest looking one. She first quoted me Y300 for FS. After a little bargaining, I was offered Y200 for FS but without BJ. I then remembered that I don't like BBBJ in BBSes for health reasons, so I counter-offered with Y150 for the FS with CBJ. We settled on Y200. I might've gotten Y150 if I tried to walk out, but I didn't bother.
The CBJ was fantastic. Good suction. Very enthusiastic. Multiple positions. LFK. We got hot and sweaty b/c they only turned the A/C on once I got in the little booth. The cleanliness of the place is normal for BBSes. Really cute girl!
Happy mongering!
All right guys, here is my first post. I have been hobbying succesfully in various parts of the world regularly by reading blogs posted by fellow members. Thanks to you all. I decided to visit Maggies and Hollywood today evening after reading various Beijing posts. The guy at the Concierge scribbled "Maggie's" in mandarin and off I went. The address stated "South entrance of Riten Park". The taxi driver dropped me off at "Moscow Restaurant" which is located at southern side of Riten Park.
I walked one block in the direction of various Chinese restaurants and finally saw "Maggies". Outside, it clearly said that you need to show your membership card to the doorman. I was carrying my passport on the advice of fellow members. As soon as I entered Maggies, I was shocked. It was totally empty. That's what you get when you arrive at 8:30 pm on Monday night. Anyways, I sat at the bar and had a beer. 15 mins later, I paid and tipped generously (just in case I had to return again when it was packed" and walked back to Moscow restaurant.
From Moscow restaurant, I took a right turn and walked two blocks straight to find Hollywood. As soon as I walking in 3 gorgeous Russians walked in. I paid 40 RMB entrance and sat at the bar and ordered another beer. I saw a group of 8 Russians hanging at the othe side of the bar. As soon as I finished my drink, I walked up to one pretty girl I was eyeing and asked her out. Lost in translation! She couldn't speak English and I couldn't speak Russian. Anyways "Russian mommy" (40's smoking) came to my rescue and asked what I wanted. We agreed on ST for 800 RMB. She suggested we go to the girl's apartment which was only one minute by taxi. I agreed.
As soon as we stepped out, the girl summoned a "private car" and not a taxi. We arrived at her apartment complex in less that one minute and I was made to pay 50RMB for the short ride!
I was thinking I am in for a big scam. I walked with her to her apartment on the 9th floor. Even her apartment was little Russia. The idea was kind of erotic to fuck her in her own apartment. She asked me to pay 800 rmb first. (I am thinking another scam! ). Reluctantly, I paid her.
I showered first and she showered after me. She had soft music on in her room while I had gone for the shower.
She came back and gave me a totally GFE experience. Lots of kissing, CBJ, sucking her tits and finally fucking her. I could only last for 15 minutes.
I gave her a kiss and took a " real taxi" back to my hotel.
In the end I would say that "Hollywood" turned out to be a great experience for me tonight. Thanks!
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Hey Ex Pat.
A Chinese girl in Maggies? A rare find indeed, at least for take out. Any details would be appreciated. The only ones I have known there are from xinjiang and are a mix of Chinese and Turkish, a great combination in my book. My favorite in Beijing presently is a "Chinese" girl from xinjiang I met two years ago in Maggies. In the dark, I thought she might be Russian at first. Her hair was colored very light and her features are not typical Chinese, especially her ass! She and her "sister" are Muslim at that! Strange combo but what a great time.
Don't think I can be of much help...she landed on my lap literally. Petite with shoulder-length wavy hair. Came from someplace about 3 hours from Shanghai. Forgot her name and didn't bother to get her number since I was leaving the next day and Beijing was not on my usual travel map.
[QUOTE=Papi Putito]Hey Ex Pat.
A Chinese girl in Maggies? A rare find indeed, at least for take out. Any details would be appreciated. The only ones I have known there are from xinjiang and are a mix of Chinese and Turkish, a great combination in my book. My favorite in Beijing presently is a "Chinese" girl from xinjiang I met two years ago in Maggies. In the dark, I thought she might be Russian at first. Her hair was colored very light and her features are not typical Chinese, especially her ass! She and her "sister" are Muslim at that! Strange combo but what a great time.[/QUOTE]
[quote=expatriate guy]i was in beijing last week and decided to call for a russian girl with a number from one of cards that were lying around in the cab...big mistake and
a total waste of rmb1,500. two girls came to my room and i chose the prettier one. totally mechanical experience...no kissing, cbj and then just lay there as i took her missionery. had much better experiences russian girls in moscow and dubai, but the best experience was with a russian-chilean girl in santiago.
back to beijing...was at maggies on a thurs night and the place was rocking from 10 pm and more girls kept pouring closer to midnight. took a 23-year-old chinese girl for rmb1,200 for a total gfe.[/quote]
i try and stay out of these type of discussions, because i have discovered one mans poison is another mans food, thus it all depends on the perspective of the viewer, but as i have a reasonable amount of experience with russians i though i would add my two bits.
what's good about russians
1.for those who like european features, or are even neutral, russians can be gorgeous. russians in russia, as long as you are not cheap, are gorgeous. some mongers like looks, i am one of those and i spend a lot of effort finding good looking birds – although i can testify that the more average looking girls will provide better service. sometimes having a gorgeous model type russian (or thai, or chinese) under you moaning away while you are pumping away like a crazy man has a certain aphrodisiac effect. russian in beijing can be very nice also, although the ratio is not as good as good quality clubs in russia, especially the lap top dancing clubs in moscow. but i have always been able to find some one who is near model-quality.
2.typically russians give better blow jobs than chinese. i know there are exceptions, but as a rule 10 russians will give 9 excellent blow jobs while 10 chinese will give 4 excellent blow jobs. the best chinese blow jobs come from girls who work in massage places, i suppose they get trained, but even in this case i find chinese in shanghai better than chinese in beijing.
3.if you work it right you can establish a nice relationship with a russian girl, and she will rarely become clingy.
what's bad about russians
1.rarely will they shower will you. i have found one exception, but only 1 out of 20 will shower and engage in a bit of playful foreplay in the shower. not sure why, but them are the facts.
2.no pictures. as i don't really care about pictures this is not an issue with me.
3.minimal anal. as i don't really care about this this is not an issue with me.
4.if you let them dominate the script, it will be rather mechanical and boring. they often don't like being told what to do, but if you are nice and they trust you they will allow you to take the lead. this is important because the script is all about getting the guy to cum in the shortest possible time frame, however if foreplay is your thing then this may be good.
5.they look like someone is [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125][CodeWord125][/url] their mother before you come up to talk to them – but once you talk with them and they like you, they will actually smile (amazing, but true).
so if you like anal, pictures, showers and a girl telling you constantly they love you and you are very handsome, even when you know they are lying – don't try russians.
for me i like a bit of variety, chinese 1st and a bit of russians every now and then for spice.
[QUOTE=Sebastian My]... a girl telling you constantly they love you and you are very handsome, even when you know they are lying – don't try Russians. [/QUOTE]I have often joked that going to Maggie's is like being the captain of the football team back when you were in high school - all of the girls think you are the greatest thing on earth. Since I was no football captain I enjoy the attention. For me it is not just “the kill” but also “the thrill of the chase”, and at Hollywood anyway there is no chase.
Every now and then you will find Russian girls at The Pig and Maggie's. It seems these girls have figured out that if they play the same game as they do at Hollywood they will not get much business, so they are much more outgoing and chatty. Last night I chatted up a very cute Uzbekistan girl at the Pig, and we later went to Maggie's together. She was a true pleasure to be around.
Everyone knows that I have a strong preference for Mongolian girls, but I like to throw a Chinese or Russian into the mix every now and then, as Sebastian says, for spice. I don’t think I will bother with the Russian bars as the atmosphere just is not for me.
Sammy
[QUOTE=Sammy_T]I have often joked that going to Maggie's is like being the captain of the football team back when you were in high school - all of the girls think you are the greatest thing on earth. Since I was no football captain I enjoy the attention. For me it is not just “the kill” but also “the thrill of the chase”, and at Hollywood anyway there is no chase.
Every now and then you will find Russian girls at The Pig and Maggie's. It seems these girls have figured out that if they play the same game as they do at Hollywood they will not get much business, so they are much more outgoing and chatty. Last night I chatted up a very cute Uzbekistan girl at the Pig, and we later went to Maggie's together. She was a true pleasure to be around.
Everyone knows that I have a strong preference for Mongolian girls, but I like to throw a Chinese or Russian into the mix every now and then, as Sebastian says, for spice. I don’t think I will bother with the Russian bars as the atmosphere just is not for me.
Sammy[/QUOTE]
Sammy same 'improved' attitude from the Russians at The Den and at Hard Rock - so different to Hollywood.
They are still not aggressive - but are more than willing to chat.
There was a shortish dark haired Russian girl working HR some time back - her name was Lana - she was kinda like the 'captain' of the Russian girls in HR - not there pimp - just kinda directed traffic.
She was a 'star performer'. Still mechanical for ST one shot bookings - but if you negotiated 2 hours or more - she changed dramatically.
I had her 2 times - 2 hours each time - RMB1,200 first time and a 'discount' to 1,000 on a Sunday night - totally GFE - loved having her pussy licked.
I did talk to her in HR for 2 hours before we left first time - bought her drinks and generally got her to 'thaw' before leaving - that helps dramatically if you can take the business side out of the equation slightly.
Sammy - Intransit - I will be in Beijing June 8 to 11 - thats Fri, Sat and Sun night - best we blow the froth off a couple and go a'pussy hunting together - what do you think?
Billy,
Thanks for the invite but Intransit is on the wagon for now.
I just return to the US after 3 week in China for business took 5 day off in Bejing to see the city, this is my 2nd trip here climb the great wall see the forbidden city and the peking duck is great have it every night I was here and I can eat this every day.
I did go to Maggie talk to manager Harry and some local on mongering in bejing, I didn't see any one hot there and they all want too much also check out hard rock and pig and the girl is just very average, there are also bbs all over the city, I was stay at the new century nikko near the Bejing zoo and there are bbs near the bus stations but most girls only offer HJ no full fs and the girl are old late twenty the one that offer fs want 300 rmb plus 50 for the tiny room and she is only a 4, I can get girl like this in dongguan for 100 rmb easy, freebie is avalible if you have alot of time to hunt that I don't have.
I guess that after mongering in guangzhou and asia for over 15 yr Bejing is just not a good place to go for mongering but I will return for the 2008 game and the Peking duck.
Fast eddie 48
Came across this ad via a posting in [url]www.thatsbj.com[/url] (which by the way is a decent source of freebie and a few semi-commercial offerings, although for the former, you have to work it).
[url]www.kittyasia.com[/url] tries to position herself as a high-class escort, with a starting price at USD 480 for two hours. Is there truly a market for this in China? I know there's a whole segment out there that most foreigners don't even touch, i.e. the high-end mistresses who get the apartment, car and shopping trips to Paris, but this? Just curious if anyone has any experience?
Also, heard that you can, if you know 'the right people' get bona fide models and starlets to spend the night with you (they apparently even bring copies of magazines with their pics as proof). Again, anyone any experience with this? Sounds intriguing.
Less than US$3/mo get's you a web hosting package that you could build a site like [url]www.kittyasia.com[/url]. She's either crazy or just picking up the uninformed. What she's asking for is just over the top. I've seen websites like this for prostitutes before in other countries; I'm not sure what they're all thinking, but it seems that they feel that by charging high-end consulting rates that they've somehow legitimized their "business" and that they aren't selling sex for money. The whole FAQ is a hoot! "What do I need to know if I invite you to some foreign countries?", my gosh what arrogance and entitlement! The glowing reviews are a laugh as well! All this on top of the fact that the pictures suggest that she's neither hot enough or young enough to demand normal "model" (or even hot girl) rates in the 1000-1500RMB range.
Actual leads on finding "model" quality girls would be useful. Sebasitan My posted a useful "[url=http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=498425&postcount=4266]Guide to finding Models in Beijing[/url]" about 9 months ago. Maybe it's time for an update ;-)
G
[QUOTE=Farmer Joe]Came across this ad via a posting in [url]www.thatsbj.com[/url] (which by the way is a decent source of freebie and a few semi-commercial offerings, although for the former, you have to work it).
[url]www.kittyasia.com[/url] tries to position herself as a high-class escort, with a starting price at USD 480 for two hours. Is there truly a market for this in China? I know there's a whole segment out there that most foreigners don't even touch, i.e. the high-end mistresses who get the apartment, car and shopping trips to Paris, but this? Just curious if anyone has any experience?
Also, heard that you can, if you know 'the right people' get bona fide models and starlets to spend the night with you (they apparently even bring copies of magazines with their pics as proof). Again, anyone any experience with this? Sounds intriguing.[/QUOTE]
To oldAsiaHand and brothers
I do not post for the China area It’s a wile ago I have been there but I know the Asia P4P very well and just like to contribute on the Russian girls questions due to my reasonable amount experience with them.
I agree for a big part with Sebastian and no need to repeat all this.
The export girls are different from what you get in Russia itself when it comes to GFE or the cold time cutting and money only attitude outside EE. , the girls from St Petersburg are having a much better attitude than Moscow and are a lot better looking also.
In Russia there are a fortune of great looking girls, mainly available or just looking for foreign boyfriend, they have more competition between them in bars, clubs and dancing’s and they working (mainly) independent or having a normal daytime job and trying to earn a bit extra money at evening and having a good time with a westerner at the same time. We took many models or 6/7 looking girls to my friends apartment for LT and for low money and a mainly have had a great time, took them out for lunch the next day and a fine GFE for the following day’s was guaranteed.
Most Russians or other EE women working outside there home country, in Dubai or Asia and some parts of W. Europe are the real professional hookers, having a pimp or working for a gang, only money counts from now on. But hang on a minute, that is partly the same problem with Thai or Chinese girls (not with S. A. Latinos) that are working in the European bars or massage places, they get also quickly spoilt and losing there home country service or kindness, Russians want just a quick cold fc. K with the hurry and cum attitude or a mechanical HJ, no GFE, advance money only and ready for the next rip off.
This counts for 95% of the EE hookers, when they speak a bit English the conversation starts directly it in the following order – buy me a drink (champagne) – the price – can we go upstairs now (drink un touch) – take so long, you not come quickly?. By by now.
I must say, I had a few good GFE with Russian girls in Southern Spain several years ago when " leaving Russia " became flexible for them. The GFE works only after the 2e or 3e time you meet them and as far as I could see, these girls have been living on there own or withy friends and no pimp behind them, just looking for a rich boyfriend and to marry,
I took them several times to my place from the club till the next day w. O. Extra money. The shower story is true, they are mainly a bit shy, they never approach you as the first in a bar or club but just wait on the site and don’t go with someone they don’t like.
I personally like them for the looks, most Russian girls are having a nice ass and beautiful body and a fine lovely shaved pussy, they are sometimes shy to undress at first (with the light on), not easy to warm them up when having a party with more people in one room, they have to " defrost " first, but when alone with them and they know you a bit better they can turn wild and great BJ and the love game can go crazy.
I banged a few in Bangkok, Macao and Japan years ago. And the question was why? Simple, after a few weeks between al these Asian beauty’s, you spot a western or EE girl and you think WAW never seen before. Your dick takes the lead. And thinking something white will taste different for a change and that is right but the hurry up type of experiences are mot my cup of tea anymore.
I have been recently in a few bars in Bangkok where some not good looking Russian chicks are hanging out and I did not go on with them, don’t like or trust the attitude or way of behaviour with there pimp a few meter behind them. The real stunning beauties are working now in the mayor European cities as a escort and earn a fortune, so why should they play the bang game in Asia for low money or with a Jap or a Korean.
There is one important rule that I learned and now try to stay with it, when in Italy eat Italian food and when in China, Chinese food but not the opposite and that works always the best so far.
John Euro
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Gary,
I've been with Kitty many times, and she is spectacular, for most guys she'll be an all-time best. The more seasoned members of this board know of my experiences with her and the whole-hearted endorsement she receives from me. She's not crazy and she's not picking up the uninformed. Kitty caters to those who want more--much more--from an experience with a woman than just a moist orifice in which to explode.
What you've demonstrated with your post is that it is you who are uninformed. Six posts? Five, actually, since you duplicated your first post. "I can't speak a word of Mandarin, I had a hard time figuring out exactly what the options were." I would guess from the quality of your writing that applies to more areas of your life than simple mongering.
Whoa, flame off please.
Her website seems just like lots of others that I've seen, and I'm technically accurate that it costs little to set up one like it. Her prices are out of line with the rest of the market, I'm not sure how that can be disputed.
Am I new to this, clearly so anyone can read the post count. In fact the first "double" post was because I didn't know that posts waited in a queue for moderator approval and I thought it hadn't worked. So feel free to subtract one for my official total. Saying that I'm stupid because I haven't posted often is just insulting. If you don't want my comments I'm happy to stop posting.
Sorry I've touched a nerve, I'm not trying to make enemies here.
G
[QUOTE=Intransit]Gary,
I've been with Kitty many times, and she is spectacular, for most guys she'll be an all-time best. The more seasoned members of this board know of my experiences with her and the whole-hearted endorsement she receives from me. She's not crazy and she's not picking up the uninformed. Kitty caters to those who want more--much more--from an experience with a woman than just a moist orifice in which to explode.
What you've demonstrated with your post is that it is you who are uninformed. Six posts? Five, actually, since you duplicated your first post. "I can't speak a word of Mandarin, I had a hard time figuring out exactly what the options were." I would guess from the quality of your writing that applies to more areas of your life than simple mongering.[/QUOTE]
As a bit of background, I would fall in the seasoned "former" members of this forum who had the pleasure to experience Kitty. In fact, I believe if memory serves me correctly, I was one of Kitty's first regulars and I second Intransit's view that Kitty is far more than just another "ho".
I retired from actively contributing to the forum quite some time ago primarily because of these too frequent, generally non productive comparisions of what constitutes value, particulary those based on the premise that any woman in a country like China is crazy to think she can charge what her cohorts in the Western world routinely earn for far less "service". Doesn't that imply a bit of an attitude. We are better than them?
I always though the intended purpose of the forum was to offer information. Whether Kitty is worth what she charges is a very subjective matter, and IMHO anyone who has experienced her will agree that she offers far more than the average BBS, KTV or street girl who most are using as their economic yardstick of the "value" of pussy in China.
Maybe I am off base here, but this whole discussion got some juices flowing. There is a thread available called "Cheap sex in China" for those of you who are so inclined. I believe that Kitty will do well enough without you.
I have not had the pleasure of her experience. I am pleased to know that those of you that have enjoyed yourselves so much for whatever reason. I believe some punters perception may be influenced by the price they pay e.g. "if it is expensive, it must be good". This may or may not apply to Kitty or the members of this forum that have tried her. For example, I know Intransit is a seasoned punter and has an enormous point of comparison.
However, flame me if you will, but I agree that her prices are way over the top for China regardless of the service. I personally cannot imagine what she could do to justify the price.
Having said that, I did pay 1,100 US$ one time for a "semi-famous" porn star in the USA, but it was a "once in a lifetime" experience.
Just my POV.
OAH
John,
This is totally true.
As I already said, I had limited experience with Russians, but your lucubrations applies to all nationalities.
Also, I feel exactly the same after some time tasting same food: I need a break and surely looking at some out-of-asia bodies revitalizes the appetite.
In terms of price, it is a fact that local food is generally cheaper.
[QUOTE=John Euro]
...
The export girls are different from what you get in Russia itself when it comes to GFE
...
In Russia ... they have more competition between them in bars, clubs and dancing’s and they working (mainly) independent or having a normal daytime job
...
Most Russians or other EE women working outside there home country ... are the real professional hookers, having a pimp or working for a gang, only money counts from now on. But hang on a minute, that is partly the same problem with Thai or Chinese girls (not with S. A. Latinos) that are working in the European bars or massage places, they get also quickly spoilt and losing there home country service or kindness
...
I banged a few in Bangkok, Macao and Japan years ago. And the question was why? Simple, after a few weeks between al these Asian beauty’s, you spot a western or EE girl and you think WAW never seen before. Your dick takes the lead.
...
when in Italy eat Italian food and when in China, Chinese food but not the opposite and that works always the best so far.
John Euro
[/QUOTE]
From time to time we start to debate, and unfortunately in some cases to flame each other, about prices we pay. Like in some other occasions we start to debate how good looking or bad looking is a girl whose pics someone posted.
Personally, I don’t think we should fight on this subjects which are totally subjective.
Our perceptions and emotions differ, this is the beauty itself of human beings, so nobody is right or wrong in these cases.
Particularly in case of prices, it is like discussing how expensive or cheap is a restaurant.
It is individual evaluation of food, drinks, atmosphere, service, etc. that makes us thinking one or the other. IMHO, same happens for women.
Like in case of Kitty, all we can say is “prices are above market average” or “I would be available to pay those prices” or “I am not available to pay those prices under no circumstance”.
I don’t feel like criticizing some people for paying what Kitty or others so-called high-end escorts require for their services. These mongers are happy to do that, I am happy they are happy.
ISG is here to supply information on every single country, area, city.
Therefore, information on price range is widely available and, provided we RTFF, we cannot make mistakes or be ripped off. So, in case someone feels comfortable to pay much more than price range to enjoy a certain experience, others shouldn’t bother.
Dick Tracy,
I think you have a few things confused.
One, just because someone is not going to pay 4 times the market rate, that does not make them cheap.
Second, that Kitty is a little long in the tooth, if you know what I mean.
Third, don't insult others, and also claim you leave the forum becuase you of flaming. Seems a little strange, right?
[QUOTE=Dick Tracy]As a bit of background, I would fall in the seasoned "former" members of this forum who had the pleasure to experience Kitty. In fact, I believe if memory serves me correctly, I was one of Kitty's first regulars and I second Intransit's view that Kitty is far more than just another "ho".
I retired from actively contributing to the forum quite some time ago primarily because of these too frequent, generally non productive comparisions of what constitutes value, particulary those based on the premise that any woman in a country like China is crazy to think she can charge what her cohorts in the Western world routinely earn for far less "service". Doesn't that imply a bit of an attitude. We are better than them?
I always though the intended purpose of the forum was to offer information. Whether Kitty is worth what she charges is a very subjective matter, and IMHO anyone who has experienced her will agree that she offers far more than the average BBS, KTV or street girl who most are using as their economic yardstick of the "value" of pussy in China.
Maybe I am off base here, but this whole discussion got some juices flowing. There is a thread available called "Cheap sex in China" for those of you who are so inclined. I believe that Kitty will do well enough without you.[/QUOTE]
Hopefully this is the last post I make on this issue, in the past senior members on this forum have admonished other members for overpaying and "ruining" the market. I'm not sure how this is any different. If western prices are praised, aren't we encouraging everyone to setup a $3 website and increase their prices 5-10x? I do seem to remember the a common theme was that inflationary price changes ruin the service level and creates an entitlement culture. I could go sort through hundreds of messages and get some quotes, but I really don't want to keep this thread alive, so I won't.
It was never my impression to insult anyone's friend, or to invite a personal attack.
It WAS my intention to post here about my experiences, but if the general consensus is that I don't know what I'm talking about, and that I can't write well, then I won't bother. As you all know it take some effort to put together reports, please let me know if I shouldn't do this work.
Thanks Albert for trying to normalize things, my first post wasn't trying to criticize anyone, I had no idea that anyone had even visited her before.
B.T.W. before anyone posts a reply saying that I should have know that she was Intransit's favorite and that I should RTFF, I'll say in advance, I have read the forum. It's 367 pages of posts dating back to 2002. I've read back about a years worth and done lots of searches on specific topics, but who's going to read old reports from 2004 when all the information is out of date.
Having a strong endorsement from a senior member adds a lot of credibility and changes the situation. In fact any "tested" service of any sort adds credibility that can't be achieved through advertising. I'm sorry I wasn't more diligent with my research before commenting, if I had know it would turn into this much hassle, I would have done it differently. But having made 700 posts doesn't make you a rock star, and attacking new contributors is an easy way for the forum to get stale pretty quickly.
-G
[QUOTE=Albert Punter]From time to time we start to debate, and unfortunately in some cases to flame each other, about prices we pay. Like in some other occasions we start to debate how good looking or bad looking is a girl whose pics someone posted.
Personally, I don’t think we should fight on this subjects which are totally subjective.
Our perceptions and emotions differ, this is the beauty itself of human beings, so nobody is right or wrong in these cases.
Particularly in case of prices, it is like discussing how expensive or cheap is a restaurant.
It is individual evaluation of food, drinks, atmosphere, service, etc. that makes us thinking one or the other. IMHO, same happens for women.
Like in case of Kitty, all we can say is “prices are above market average” or “I would be available to pay those prices” or “I am not available to pay those prices under no circumstance”.
I don’t feel like criticizing some people for paying what Kitty or others so-called high-end escorts require for their services. These mongers are happy to do that, I am happy they are happy.
ISG is here to supply information on every single country, area, city.
Therefore, information on price range is widely available and, provided we RTFF, we cannot make mistakes or be ripped off. So, in case someone feels comfortable to pay much more than price range to enjoy a certain experience, others shouldn’t bother.[/QUOTE]
I just wanted to share give a quick report on my experience in BJ. I didn't go to any place mentioned in the forum. Honestly the BBS shops are all over the place. I stayed on the back side of the forbidden city and its pretty easy to find a handjob, pretty standard i was charged 300 total for a massage and H/J. The only girl i actually cacked was a hotel massage gal for 1k. I never even went looking for it, it really does find you. For a truly satisfying experience, order a foot massage then oil massage. 200 tip for a total of 500 and you feel completely spoiled after a long day of sight seeing.
CHeers guys wish i had more to share, but i'm actually concentrating on a girl i met through AFF so not a lot of time to mess around, and mostly i messed around before i met her. I'm off traveling now currently in Xian, but i'll be back in BJ before my trips end and maybe then i'll try the pig or maggies.
Jack
Hi - I'm planning to stay at the Kempinski for two weeks this summer (last time at China World, which I very much liked, but my company for absurd reasons can't book this time).
There's one post from 2005 that worries me:
[url]http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=414203&postcount=3520[/url]
According to this post, Kempinski is not gf and charge a 15% nightly fee if you bring a girl to your room.
Any ideas about the current accuracy of this?
Gary,
I was going to let your last post go, but then I re-read it. If you had left off the last two lines, it would have been ok, but you didn't.
Having 700 posts doesn't make me a rock star, especially considering there are members of this board with thousands of posts, and in their presence I am humbled. What it does mean is that I've been around, and that I have demonstrated that I know way, way, way more about fucking, and getting fucked, in Beijing than you do.
It doesn't bother me that you insulted someone that I know and like. It's the way you did it. I don't attack new members--read back and you'll see that my praise for new members can be downright effusive, but only when they have gone out, spent their own money, spent their own time, did their own research and experimentation, and posted information (and even photos) that is useful not only to new members of this community, but to seasoned veterans as well. THAT'S what prevents this board from getting stale.
What you did was demonstrate not only a lack of knowledge, but a lack of respect. At its core, this board is indeed a community--Sammy T, Just Me, Bad Boy Billy, we all know each other, along with some of the other members. Anyone who has met Sammy knows that he is the kindest, most hospitable guy you could ever hope to meet, a true friend. That kindness extends in many directions, including welcoming new members and offering them guidance and sometimes even free beer.
By coming in, announcing that you don't speak Chinese, and then slagging off someone that you've never even tried, you've indicated that you don't know anything and that you don't give a shit. I see guys like that at Maggie's--no respect for the bar, no respect for the women, and no respect for the rules of the road, and they bring all of us down.
A lot of guys come and go here, both in Beijing and on ISG. Six months ago, Midea took a swipe at the "big pashas," and stirred up so much trouble he got his own thread, a thread that died shortly afterward. And yet the big pashas are still here, answering questions, providing information, and sharing experiences.
If you want to establish cred, there are better ways to do it than by telling us what you don't know. Instead, go out, try some providers, try some places, tell us how it went. There are LOTS of guys just like you who end up in Beijing, not speaking a word of Chinese, and those experiences could be valuable to them. They will also be valuable to you in finding your way in this environment, and eventually, you'll become good at it. Sammy T's Chinese is by no means fluent, but I've never seen him in a situation where he didn't own the room.
You are a welcome addition to this board, this community. Now show us that you're worthy of it.
I never had a problem at either the Kempinski or the World, except for chicks taking shit from the mini-bar.
There is also a condom pack in the minibar (condom, tampon, disposable underwear, etc) that will set you back 88 RMB or so if the girl takes a condom from it.
But, there was never a charge for a second (or third) person in the room.
Jimbo
[QUOTE=Fedora]Hi - I'm planning to stay at the Kempinski for two weeks this summer (last time at China World, which I very much liked, but my company for absurd reasons can't book this time).
There's one post from 2005 that worries me:
[url]http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=414203&postcount=3520[/url]
According to this post, Kempinski is not gf and charge a 15% nightly fee if you bring a girl to your room.
Any ideas about the current accuracy of this?[/QUOTE]
Jimbo - thanks a lot. v useful.
I'll stay off the mini-bar condoms; the disposable underwear is a different matter, those might just be too tempting...
fedora
... thinking at your face when at check out following morning girl at reception asks: did you have anything from mini-bar last night ?
[QUOTE=Crazy Jim Wood]
...
There is also a condom pack in the minibar (condom, tampon, disposable underwear, etc) that will set you back 88 RMB or so if the girl takes a condom from it.
...
Jimbo[/QUOTE]
Intransit,
Well said, my friend, well said.
I find it amazing that folks would come to Beijing (or China for that matter) and not find it a great place. But, that's just me.
I remember moving to Beijing in 1999 and not knowing a lick of Chinese and simply having a grand time. I laugh at myself now, but when I first move to BJ, I didn't know squat....but thought I did. haha
---like going to Maggie's II at 9pm and chatting with all the cute chinese girls thinking I was top shit....(now looking back at it, I was just the tallest midget)
--getting ripped off in Shanghai by a gal when I feel asleep after the deed. I woke up, she was just closing the door, I had no money in my pockets and I ran into the hallway nude and snatched my money out of her pocket.
--being in the back room of a bbs in BJ when the police walked in to the front room. Scared shitless, but survived.
--getting a GREAT blowjob from a freebie while I was driving and sitting in an intersection with police looking on--she kept going and I scooted out as soon as the light turned
--having to change my favorite eating places on a few occasions cuz I banged one of the waitstaff and didn't want to go thru the drama
--the feel of the softest damn skin of a gorgeous Mongolian gal from Maggies, and waking up with her giving a great BJ while I watched the sunrise thru the window. almost makes me teary eyed while I type this
--More freebies than I can even remember (thanks Starbucks and ICQ- that is their purpose, right?)
--holding the hands of numerous newbies as I walked them thru the crash course of BJ punters (HJBeans- God rest their soul, Hard Rock, Maggies, Den)
--jumping into the back seat of a car (at 2.am) with two gals in it, with the driver yelling out the window "massage, massage".. I thought I'd take them to my apartment. I just ended up getting a BJ in the back seat with the male driver driving us thru the streets of BJ. boy, was I stupid- alchohol, alcohol, alcohol
I realize that most of you could just "change the name" and put your's in place, but those are some of my fond memories.
How could you say anything bad about BJ? not me, or the BJ punter community....
Good luck all
Just me
[QUOTE=Albert Punter]... thinking at your face when at check out following morning girl at reception asks: did you have anything from mini-bar last night ?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, it was livid with rage. It has some inoxious name on the bill, and I was getting in an argument with the check out girl, when the manager came over and explained to me what it meant. What bullshit. Imagine if you had this discussion while you at the front desk with your SO...
I visited these two places but they seems to be offering only massage. I went over a few posts on this forum and found they offer extra services as well but I didn't see anything of that sort there. I asked them but they said no extras was possible. What is the trick? Any help!
[QUOTE=Great Wall]I visited these two places but they seems to be offering only massage. I went over a few posts on this forum and found they offer extra services as well but I didn't see anything of that sort there. I asked them but they said no extras was possible. What is the trick? Any help![/QUOTE]To Great wall
Bejing sauna is a big hit and miss most sauna only offer massage and HJ only and most only offer to local and regular only , you can go to same sauna in one month and go back 6 month later and they offer massage only .
There will be more and more of this because of clean up before the 2008 game many bbs and sauna that offer FS already been raid but there are still alot of p4p actions if you know who to contact.
Fast eddie 48
[QUOTE=Great Wall]I visited these two places but they seems to be offering only massage. I went over a few posts on this forum and found they offer extra services as well but I didn't see anything of that sort there. I asked them but they said no extras was possible. What is the trick? Any help![/QUOTE]
There's nothing wrong with asking for information, but it would be nice if you provided some honest-to-god FR's a bit more often (especially being a Senior Member). Just a thought.
Also, I'd like to know if you can still get FS at the two places you recommended before (I found them to be dead-ends, as I reported), and if so, how you talked them into offering it.
My main experience in BJ lately was 600Y ST from Maggies and 300Y ST on 3rd ring road near Kinkos. For the 300Y girls, I found the quality and selection lacking compared to what you can get in other cities, for even less money. This is one reason I'm planning to move. Cheers!
[QUOTE=Great Wall]I visited these two places but they seems to be offering only massage. I went over a few posts on this forum and found they offer extra services as well but I didn't see anything of that sort there. I asked them but they said no extras was possible. What is the trick? Any help![/QUOTE]Hmm, I've visited the WFJG over the past 3 years and had no problems gettting service. Were you trying the 6th floor which may be more restrictive depending on your provider? Also the CP on WFJ is pretty straight forward at least it was for me in Feb/Mar. Who did you talk to in each place? Maybe things have changed?
[QUOTE=Sansnick]Hmm, I've visited the WFJG over the past 3 years and had no problems gettting service. Were you trying the 6th floor which may be more restrictive depending on your provider? Also the CP on WFJ is pretty straight forward at least it was for me in Feb/Mar. Who did you talk to in each place? Maybe things have changed?[/QUOTE]
In WFJG, I went to basement section. There is one BBS offering massage and one SPA. I enquired at both the places and they said NO.
In CP on WFJ, I took elevator (don't remember the floor) but it was there massage section. On enquiry, I was told the same i.e. no extras.
Good morning everybody.
Please forgive me if I ask something redundant. I stumbled across this wonderful page and wanted to consult someone with experience.
I've got 2 weeks in China at the end of July. I'm primarily in Beijing but I'd be more than happy to visit a few other nice areas. I've heard some positive things about Shenzhen, and it would seem that a lot of people prefer the south.
While I'm in Beijing I won't be able to bring anyone home, which limits me I think. What advice could you all give to a first timer? I read the report of BBS there and that sounds promising.
Finally I have found the KTV (or Sauna) near XiBaHe bus stop. The easiest way to get there is taking the subway. Get out at the station: guangximen (光熙门) and then cross the big street. Turn right (walk to the east), you will see a PC-mall. Don't turn into the small street where the police station is, turn left to the next one. The KTV is about 20 meters after you turned into the street.
I didn't go in because I wasn't sure if that place is a massage place. It's nothing written at the outside of the building about massage. I was to chicken to ask. There was nice girls at the desk and my chinese sucks.
Can anybody confirm that place is a massage place? Is it both, a KTV and massage/sauna?
I will post a report.
Hello fellow mongers. I will stay for a few days in Beijing at the Beijing Asia Hotel, 8 Gongti, Beilu, Xinzhong Xijie. First time in China. I read FRs but did not see much regarding that hotel and area. Anyone with advice for MPs, I'd be very grateful.
Arrived last night got checked in and went to the Pig around 10:30. Surprised to see 7 Russian girls in the bar. One blond haired girl seemed to be the boss and did all the negotiating. She started at 1500 RMB ST and 2500 RMB LT for any of the girls. I negotiated for awhile as there was one girl that I really liked. A small brunette from Uzbekistan with a sizeable chest. She came down to 800 RMB ST and 1500 RMB LT so I started talking to the brunette who didn't speak great English but communicated OK. Her attitude was terrible and after talking to her for a few minutes I decided the looks did not compensate for the attitude and I walked. This is the most Russian girls I have ever seen at the Pig and the prices and attitudes were similar to Hollywood.
Is this a new gathering spot for Russians?
Went to Maggies about midnight and found a stunning Mongolian that I was real interested in and seriously considering taking her but just as I was deciding a regular Mongolian that I have been with numerous times walked in and I decided to take her home as I knew exactly what I was getting.
Canada -
Those Russian girls have been hanging out at the Pig for the last several weeks. You are right in that they have a "Hollywood Bar" attitude. I did hang out with the short brunette from Uzbekistan one night, and we had a good time. Of course, this is after I got a few shots of vodka in her. All of her friends are strickly business and not very fun to be around.
There have always been a few Russians that have hung out at The Pig, but thoses girls were always the independent (i.e. no pimp) type. I am sure this new set is being run by a pimp, so I doubt they will last very long in the Pig's atmosphere.
Sammy
[QUOTE=Canada]Arrived last night got checked in and went to the Pig around 10:30. Surprised to see 7 Russian girls in the bar. One blond haired girl seemed to be the boss and did all the negotiating. She started at 1500 RMB ST and 2500 RMB LT for any of the girls. I negotiated for awhile as there was one girl that I really liked. A small brunette from Uzbekistan with a sizeable chest. She came down to 800 RMB ST and 1500 RMB LT so I started talking to the brunette who didn't speak great English but communicated OK. Her attitude was terrible and after talking to her for a few minutes I decided the looks did not compensate for the attitude and I walked. This is the most Russian girls I have ever seen at the Pig and the prices and attitudes were similar to Hollywood.
Is this a new gathering spot for Russians?
Went to Maggies about midnight and found a stunning Mongolian that I was real interested in and seriously considering taking her but just as I was deciding a regular Mongolian that I have been with numerous times walked in and I decided to take her home as I knew exactly what I was getting.[/QUOTE]
Hey guys, where are some "cheap" places to go in Beijing? Are they open late? I don't want to be seen by my colleagues doing this. Do they offer full services?
I heard that some of these girls are linked to the police and it can eventually lead you to being arrested. Is this true? How can I ensure my safety?
Hey guys,
I'm just wondering where is a cheap and safe place in Beijing with cute girls? This is my first time here and would it be safer to do this late at night? I heard about undercover cops working and what should I do to ensure my safety?
Well thanks for the advice. I may buy the Uzbekistan girl a couple shots and try her also before I leave.
I tried a massage company in the phone book today. Celebity Massage. I wanted a good massage and if more happened ok The girl came over about an hour late and started giving a mediocre massage and after about 15 minutes came the upsell which I was expecting. She wanted 500 RMB HJ and 1200 additional for FS. I told her she was crazy but she wouldn't budge and I am not stupid so then all I ended up with is a half assed massage for 200RMB. Girl was 21, cute and great body but definately not worth 1200 additional for ST. Would not recommend this service
Hello all,
Just the other day I made a last minute decision to fly to China due to a very attractively priced ticket. I litterally packed my backs in a few hours and rushed to the airport. So here I am now sitting in Beijing at the Oriental Garden Hotel trying to figure out where Pig and Maggies is? Are there any hotels people would recommend? This hotel am at now is way to expensive. I'm a complete newbie here so any info people can pass along is greatly appreciated. I walked around today trying to find a BBS that offered more than just a HJ but had no luck.
Guys,
I know this is usuaully about budget sex.
But I need something totally different. I need a place in BJ where you get pampered silly for an afternoon in luxurious surroundings. Sauna, shower, a bath, FS with two women who speak passable English, unhurried. It's to entertain some special guests.
The place that comes closest to it is Regency (or "Regify" as they call themselves on the business card) near Lufthansa. Tina, the manager/mamasan can be a little pain to negotiate with. The female selection however is pretty good.
Is there something better? For a lazy afternoon?
The "Pig" is at Holiday Inn Lido. Make sure you go to LIDO. Through the lobby, on your left then.
Maggies [url]http://www.maggiesbar.com/[/url] is in the embassy district. [url]http://www.maggiesbar.com/weizhi.htm[/url] print out, and show to taxi driver.
[QUOTE=Sing001]Hello all,
Just the other day I made a last minute decision to fly to China due to a very attractively priced ticket. I litterally packed my backs in a few hours and rushed to the airport. So here I am now sitting in Beijing at the Oriental Garden Hotel trying to figure out where Pig and Maggies is? Are there any hotels people would recommend? This hotel am at now is way to expensive. I'm a complete newbie here so any info people can pass along is greatly appreciated. I walked around today trying to find a BBS that offered more than just a HJ but had no luck.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sing001]Hello all,
Just the other day I made a last minute decision to fly to China due to a very attractively priced ticket. I litterally packed my backs in a few hours and rushed to the airport. So here I am now sitting in Beijing at the Oriental Garden Hotel trying to figure out where Pig and Maggies is? Are there any hotels people would recommend? This hotel am at now is way to expensive. I'm a complete newbie here so any info people can pass along is greatly appreciated. I walked around today trying to find a BBS that offered more than just a HJ but had no luck.[/QUOTE]
Did you RTFF?
First you will find a lot more information.
Second, few people are likely to help lazy people. You will get more help if you demonstrate that you did your homework first.
I realize you are on an impromptu trip, but everything you need has been posted already.
Just a suggestion.
MAB
[QUOTE=Mock A Bee]Did you RTFF?[/QUOTE]Funny thing is, he could practically WALK to St. Margaret's.
[QUOTE=sniffer]Is this sauna you were referring to the one at corner turning off from Jiu Xian Qiao Road, just across from the Da Zhong Appliance Shop? I think that one is called "Shi Yi" ( 世一 ), and they have a big sign saying the "bath charge" is RMB 48.
Sniffer[/QUOTE]
Do they speak any English?
A short report here, as a warning to others.
Met a cute young Mongolian girl this evening in Maggies. So sweet in the bar, discussed prices and specifically that I enjoy blowjobs. Agreed on RMB800 if she stayed for 2 hrs, with a hint of more for staying longer and good service. Of course, everything is OK when we leave the bar. All sweetness and kisses in the taxi.
Get to the room, and it all changes. The real personality came out as soon as the clothes came off. "Pay money first! I always take the money first..." After a short discussion on this topic, we finally agreed to put the money on the counter and I thought we were going to be fine. But no, now the lights go off. Told her I like the lights on. "No! I don't like the lights on!" So the lights go off except for the table lamp by the computer desk. "I am thirsty..." and she goes to the fridge to take an Evian. I offer her a bottle of the complementary water, but no, she doesn't like that.
Finally I realized that this wasn't going to happen, so I offered up the taxi money to get her back to Maggies. "F*ck you! F*ckin men! I hate men! All men are this way!"
Jesus, I could get married again if I wanted hear all this sh*t before having sex. Sent her on her way with RMB50 and a courtious tip that she could make more money next time if she treats the guy a little nicer. The favor was returned with a raised middle finger salute as she walked out the door....
She goes by the name Anya. She's cute, with a prominent chin, short and just a little thick. 21 yo with nice breasts, looks great in the bar. But be warned that the attitude is just not what some of us are looking for in a Maggies girl.
[QUOTE=Slacker80]Jin Hai An Shang Wu Hui Guan -- 金海岸商务会馆
Went there a bit before the may holidays. As this was the first sauna I've been to. I have no comparision. But I thought the place was relatively clean but rather a bit small. The sauna is at least 2 floors. Checked in. Showered. Went up. Ordered the 600 service. That included BJ and fs. The girl asked me if I wanted a BBBJ at no extra charge. But I declined. Don't know if thats offered to everyone. But hey. I like to be safe. As reported before. There is a 800 service. But that only includes getting oiled down and having your own hole played with on top of the 600 service. I heard there was a 1000 service. But I have no idea what that throws in. As I mentioned earlier the place isn't that big. And so they only have around 10 girls to choose from. At any given day they have around 7-8ppl to choose from. They do let you choose who you want but the choices arent many. Though there are pretty good looking for the most part. Which brings me to my question. Which sauna in beijing is relatively bigger with a more diverse pool of ladies to choose from? I don't like the whole we'll just send some random chick to your room. And you can keep turning them down until you find the right one. That wastes a lot of time.[/QUOTE]Does anybody know hot to get to this place? Is Jin Hai An Shang Wu Hui Guan name of the sauna or the street? I guess it is the sauna name.
[QUOTE=Fritzli]Finally I have found the KTV (or Sauna) near XiBaHe bus stop. The easiest way to get there is taking the subway. Get out at the station: guangximen (光熙门) and then cross the big street. Turn right (walk to the east), you will see a PC-mall. Don't turn into the small street where the police station is, turn left to the next one. The KTV is about 20 meters after you turned into the street.
I didn't go in because I wasn't sure if that place is a massage place. It's nothing written at the outside of the building about massage. I was to chicken to ask. There was nice girls at the desk and my chinese sucks.
Can anybody confirm that place is a massage place? Is it both, a KTV and massage/sauna?
I will post a report.[/QUOTE]Yesterday after midnight, I went to this place. It is a sauna inside. The place is not that clean and a little bit strange to other places. The customers there were only locals and they look for me like gangsters. I felt uncomfortable. On the second floor is a big hall with sleeping beds in it. I heart a lot of snoarring. Strange chinese, why do they come to such places to sleep? Massage is on the third floor. I asked for special massage, but they don't have it. For 300 something you get an oil massage and if I get it wright and HJ included. So I left that place without doing anything. The girl wasn't pretty, too.
Usual (and unsusal) exeriences
- 800: The going rate at M's
- Pay money first: Unusual. Actually, I'm trying to educate the fair maidens to collect first from first-timers. Possibly, my education drive is having effect. Usually, we don't (risky behavior) discuss price, and in the morning, they collect with a how-much-did-I-get-this-time look on their faces.
- Lights out: Unusual
- Perrier. You were lucky. Usually, they try for the champagne in the mini bar.
- "I hate men! All men are this way!" Unusual: You found one who speaks fluent English!
Was her English real, surprisingly good? Was she a little on the shorter side, but dressed elegantly, maybe a string of pearls? If she was the one I'm thinking of, then you were lucky again. She worked as a femdomme in Singapore and Hong Kong. She has exquisite taste, likes females in private, and needs to be handled with special care. For the discerning gentleman, she can be a joy. Rub her the wrong way, she can be a *****.
[QUOTE=Travelin Guy]A short report here, as a warning to others.
Met a cute young Mongolian girl this evening in Maggies. So sweet in the bar, discussed prices and specifically that I enjoy blowjobs. Agreed on RMB800 if she stayed for 2 hrs, with a hint of more for staying longer and good service. Of course, everything is OK when we leave the bar. All sweetness and kisses in the taxi.
Get to the room, and it all changes. The real personality came out as soon as the clothes came off. "Pay money first! I always take the money first..." After a short discussion on this topic, we finally agreed to put the money on the counter and I thought we were going to be fine. But no, now the lights go off. Told her I like the lights on. "No! I don't like the lights on!" So the lights go off except for the table lamp by the computer desk. "I am thirsty..." and she goes to the fridge to take an Evian. I offer her a bottle of the complementary water, but no, she doesn't like that.
Finally I realized that this wasn't going to happen, so I offered up the taxi money to get her back to Maggies. "F*ck you! F*ckin men! I hate men! All men are this way!"
Jesus, I could get married again if I wanted hear all this sh*t before having sex. Sent her on her way with RMB50 and a courtious tip that she could make more money next time if she treats the guy a little nicer. The favor was returned with a raised middle finger salute as she walked out the door....
She goes by the name Anya. She's cute, with a prominent chin, short and just a little thick. 21 yo with nice breasts, looks great in the bar. But be warned that the attitude is just not what some of us are looking for in a Maggies girl.[/QUOTE]
I was in Hua Du hotel in Beijing, very convenient to the international airport and to the embassy compound.. Not even so far from city centre.
Here link with descriptions:
[url]http://www.elong.net/hotels/details.aspx?m=details&hotelid=30101022[/url]
Mongering situation is not good at the hotel:
a) From 5-6 pm you usually find one or two couples of girls sitting in front of the reception looking for customers. Girls is a big word, in my opinion they are well over 30 y.o. so nothing for me.
b) There is a guard at the elevator block, usually looking for the papers of the girls. You see a big note (the old Soviet rule) that all the gusts have to be registered and no one is allowed after 23.00 in the room.
c) There is a unisex hairdresser in the hotel. Inside at the left you will find a massage. They asked me if I wanted but the girls was not what I expected… by the way I do not know if there is a FS or only a massage.
d) In the hotel there is, after the elevator block, at the left, the usual hotel shop with a little bit of everything: razor, toothpaste, some underwear, etc. Including Viagra and Cialis! But this will be a chapter on Viagra section, because it’s quite interesting…
In front of the hotel you just have a barber shop with massage sign. Two “miniskirted” girls inside. No idea of what’s going on.
On the road in front of the hotel if you turn right you will find a second hotel (five star) do not remember the name, but in front it’s full of pimps trying to sell you your girls or giving out brothel cards. Some of my Chinese friend warned me because some, not all, of the pimps are a system to rip you off. You agree for so much and the girl want ten times…
It’s more interesting if you turn left get to the first crossing (just 30 meters from the entrance of Hua Du Hotel) and then go over on the other side of the street. You will see a big sign Massage and some time like 11.00 to 2.00. There is a black stair going to the upper floor. Unfortunately I had no time, on ground I was usually out for work up to 1.30 or so, and very tired. But I saw at least three girls getting out from there. Young and nice, some, in my opinion, too petite and curvy to be Chinese. Next time I’ll try.
Soon some interesting facts on Chinese Cialis in Viagra section…
IT
I stayed at the Plaza (Chuanbo Zhonggong) Hotel. I wondered down to the spa/sauna/massage service in the hotel. They had a choice of 3 girls, all Chinese. I picked the girl with the biggest breasts (Chinese girls are not known for big breasts). Looks wise, she's probably a 5. She looks like she's in her early 20s. I managed to negotiate RMB 1500 for 1.5hr of service.
Started with us taking a shower together. When she took off her bra, I noticed that she has pencil eraser nipples. Very attractive! She gave me a thorough wash, gave my dick a soapy massage, while I was fingering her pussy. Got her a bit excited. Then we proceeded to the bed, where she gave me a body massage with her sliding over me. After the massage, she gave me a blowjob which was very enthusiastic indeed. She stopped to ask me if I wanted to fuck her, but I got her to continue blowing me while I fingered her pussy, getting her very excited. I then put her in such a position where I cradled her a bit while she was also supporting herself with one hand, and I sucked on her pert breasts while massaging her clit. She started making lots of noise, before convulsing and cumming. After she calmed down a bit, she pushed me down before mounting me cowgirl style. I was quite big for her. We tried several times to enter her before I finally plugged her **** nicely with my cock. She adjusted to having a big cock in her and we fucked in that position for a while. She then rolled backwards and we ended up in a Cobra position, allowing me to fuck her **** while massaging her clit with my thumb. The multiple senses sent her through the roof again, and I felt her pussy gripped my cock when she came. As I had just arrived in Beijing after a long flight, it took me a while to cum. I continued fucking her for a good while with varying rhythm while she was screaming away. As I sensed that I was going to cum, I pulled out, took off the condom and came over her tits and face. It was not just an excellent fuck, but simply a marvelous fuck!
Before she left, she tried all sorts of ways to get me to pay her more than what was negotiated, but I firmly said, "No." It was a very good non-rushed session.
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I stayed at the Plaza (Chuanbo Zhonggong) Hotel. I wondered down to the spa/sauna/massage service in the hotel. They had a choice of 3 girls, all Chinese. I picked the girl with the biggest breasts (Chinese girls are not known for big breasts). Looks wise, she's probably a 5. She looks like she's in her early 20s. I managed to negotiate RMB 1500 for 1.5hr of service. Started with us taking a shower together. When she took off her bra, I noticed that she has pencil eraser nipples. Very attractive! She gave me a thorough wash, gave my dick a soapy massage, while I was fingering her pussy. Got her a bit excited. Then we proceeded to the bed, where she gave me a body massage with her sliding over me. After the massage, she gave me a blowjob which was very enthusiastic indeed. She stopped to ask me if I wanted to fuck her, but I got her to continue blowing me while I fingered her pussy, getting her very excited. I then put her in such a position where I cradled her a bit while she was also supporting herself with one hand, and I sucked on her pert breasts while massaging her clit. She started making lots of noise, before convulsing and cumming. After she calmed down a bit, she pushed me down before mounting me cowgirl style. I was quite big for her, plugged her **** nicely with my cock. She rolled backwards and we ended up in a Cobra position, allowing me to fuck her **** while massaging her clit with my thumb. The multiple senses sent her through the roof again, and I felt her pussy gripped my cock when she came. As I had just arrived in Beijing after a long flight, it took me a while to cum. I continued fucking her for a good while with varying rhythm while she was screaming away. As I sensed that I was going to cum, I pulled out, took off the condom and came over her tits and face. It was not just an excellent fuck, but simply a marvelous fuck!
Before she left, she tried all sorts of ways to get me to pay her more than what was negotiated, but I firmly said, "No." It was a very good non-rushed session.
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[QUOTE=Travelin Guy]A short report here, as a warning to others.
....
She goes by the name Anya. She's cute, with a prominent chin, short and just a little thick. 21 yo with nice breasts, looks great in the bar. But be warned that the attitude is just not what some of us are looking for in a Maggies girl.[/QUOTE]
Recently Maggie's has been very good about only letting in girls that they think are good for business. This means keeping out girls who do not meet their "beauty" standards (ie, over weight, have the same dress on night after night, ect). While I don't want to open a floodgate of complaints to Maggie's managment, if you point out a girl that has wronged you they will certainly do something about it. This can run from a sit down between you and her to "discuss" the problem, to banning her for good from entering the bar.
Some girls have an off night, just like everone else, so just because you have a bad experience is not necessarly cause to complain. If you truly feel you were wronged then I think you should certainly say something. Just ask for the head of security. Keep in mind that some of these girls have been around for years, and if you are just a guy who has been to Maggie's once you will probably just be told "sorry" and that will be the end of it, but if they have seen your face around sevhey will certainly take your complaint seriously.
Sammy
[QUOTE=Great Wall]Do they speak any English?[/QUOTE]
I haven't tested that as I can speak Mandarin. But I don't think they could.
My favorite Spa got chai'ed, so I decided to try one of the massage places that advertise in That's Beijing. Lots of them have sprung up in apartments in Jianwai Soho and the apartments around Kerry Centre.
I picked on at random. They all have the basic same charges RMB 180 - 280 for a one hour massage. That, of course, is for a massage, and the tip is what counts.
The place was listed at one apartment in Jianwai Soho, but when I called the number they had me go to another one in the same complex. Nice apartment, nicely furnished - looked like three bedrooms set up with king size beds. The mamasan, who was hot herself, albeit probably mid 30s, spoke excellent English.
She takes me into one of the bedrooms, and a few minutes later brings in three girls, all very nice. I never negotiate up front in these places, since I enjoy letting the process unwind. I get naked, and she gives me an excellent oil massage on my back and legs. Then she starts working on my butt, and between my legs, brushing up against my balls. Really sexy. Finally she asks about a sex massage, and after a little haggling about the tip, she gets naked and the fun really begins. She is a small girl, and has these absolutely perfect breasts. They are not big, but seem just as large as they could be on her small frame without looking funny. They are firm and perky, but don't seem to be filled with silicone. They are just amazing.
We had agreed on FS, but the BBBJ was so incredible I just wanted her to go on. And she did. And it was unbelievable.
A few days later I decided to try another place - this one near Kerry Centre. The set up was similar, but this apartment was really nice - I wish I could live in one this nice. Nice music, nice lighting - the girls keep pointing out how amazing it was. The mamasan here was really hot - spoke great english, and had these schoolgirl glasses that made her look like a horny librarian. I should have asked her to join me.
Instead I picked another small cute girl. I showered in the nice marble bathroom, and hopped in the king-size bed. Negotiations began a bit quicker, and I decided I needed to do this one. She seemed a bit distressed at my size - I used to think I was average until I came to China. She was really tight and a bit distressed when we got going, but it loosened up and I pounded away. I pulled out to flip her over, and she gushed out blood all over the bed. I really freaked out, and the staff all ran in to help her. I headed to the shower, and when I came out another girl was their to "help" me through my troubles. I was not interested in sticking it in anywhere at that moment, but this girl gave me the most incredible bbbj. When I finished she would not take any money, so this one ended up a bizarre freebie. I think the girl started her period with me on her, I don't think I split her in two.
Despite the shocking experience, I liked the second place better.
[QUOTE=Sammy_T].... If you truly feel you were wronged then I think you should certainly say something. Just ask for the head of security. [/QUOTE]Thanks for the idea Sammy. I seriously never would have considered to complain to management about a girls attitude outside of the bar. In this case, I don't think I will. There were a few small hints of things to come in the bar while we were talking. She had said she couldn't stay LT due to some family flying into Beijing at 3:00am. I didn't believe it when I heard it, sounded like just a ready-made excuse to leave after ST. Since it was a Friday eve, I was looking for a keeper for the night and was hoping for a breakfast companion too. I even walked around for a while after our initial conversation before bumping into her again and then we left together. As soon as we got to the hotel, she was on the phone to call "her sister" and I suppose it could have been a real story. I just didn't expect a girl to be working the same night that family is flying in. Anyway, I'll just chalk it up to a bad experience and let the next good experience wash this memory away. Its not like she tried to steal from me or anything like that.
By putting her name in the forum like this, if anyone else suffers a similar issue, then it becomes less of "he said - she said" and more of a pattern....
[QUOTE=Zhuren].... worked as a femdomme in Singapore and Hong Kong.[/QUOTE]Wow, a Mongolian girl who worked as a femdomme? Sounds intriguing! The girl I write about did have pretty good english, but I'm guessing she's not the same girl. She did say she had visited HK though, I remember asking because I was also surprised about her good use of english. But in the taxi ride to the hotel, when we were still freinds, she told me the typical sob story about being 21 yo, had been working in BJ for almost 2 years, and had a 2 yo little boy back in Mongolia. Maybe we just had the wrong type of conversation and had her thinking about all the serious problems in her life rather than the hot and juicy sex I was dreaming about.
Thanks for a great report! Can you share bit more of where exactly the establishments are and how much you have paid for each event?
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Worm]My favorite Spa got chai'ed, so I decided to try one of the massage places that advertise in That's Beijing. Lots of them have sprung up in apartments in Jianwai Soho and the apartments around Kerry Centre.
I picked on at random. They all have the basic same charges RMB 180 - 280 for a one hour massage. That, of course, is for a massage, and the tip is what counts.
The place was listed at one apartment in Jianwai Soho, but when I called the number they had me go to another one in the same complex. Nice apartment, nicely furnished - looked like three bedrooms set up with king size beds. The mamasan, who was hot herself, albeit probably mid 30s, spoke excellent English.
She takes me into one of the bedrooms, and a few minutes later brings in three girls, all very nice. I never negotiate up front in these places, since I enjoy letting the process unwind. I get naked, and she gives me an excellent oil massage on my back and legs. Then she starts working on my butt, and between my legs, brushing up against my balls. Really sexy. Finally she asks about a sex massage, and after a little haggling about the tip, she gets naked and the fun really begins. She is a small girl, and has these absolutely perfect breasts. They are not big, but seem just as large as they could be on her small frame without looking funny. They are firm and perky, but don't seem to be filled with silicone. They are just amazing.
We had agreed on FS, but the BBBJ was so incredible I just wanted her to go on. And she did. And it was unbelievable.
A few days later I decided to try another place - this one near Kerry Centre. The set up was similar, but this apartment was really nice - I wish I could live in one this nice. Nice music, nice lighting - the girls keep pointing out how amazing it was. The mamasan here was really hot - spoke great english, and had these schoolgirl glasses that made her look like a horny librarian. I should have asked her to join me.
Instead I picked another small cute girl. I showered in the nice marble bathroom, and hopped in the king-size bed. Negotiations began a bit quicker, and I decided I needed to do this one. She seemed a bit distressed at my size - I used to think I was average until I came to China. She was really tight and a bit distressed when we got going, but it loosened up and I pounded away. I pulled out to flip her over, and she gushed out blood all over the bed. I really freaked out, and the staff all ran in to help her. I headed to the shower, and when I came out another girl was their to "help" me through my troubles. I was not interested in sticking it in anywhere at that moment, but this girl gave me the most incredible bbbj. When I finished she would not take any money, so this one ended up a bizarre freebie. I think the girl started her period with me on her, I don't think I split her in two.
Despite the shocking experience, I liked the second place better.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Worm]
I picked on at random. They all have the basic same charges RMB 180 - 280 for a one hour massage. That, of course, is for a massage, and the tip is what counts.[/QUOTE]
Worm,
Besides the basic charge, how much should we expect to pay in tips?
Please also give more info on specific locations.
Thanks for the report,
MAB
[QUOTE=Disaster53]Sorry guys, but I need your help.
I've been reading the board searching for a cheap hotel that is girl friendly but all that I can find is 5 stars hotel that are way to expensive.
Can someone suggest me a cheap alternative, I'm looking for a girl friendly hotel or motel that is in the 30-60 dollar per night bracket. I do not care if is not in the center of the action or if is a 2 or 3 stars. Please help I'll be going to Beijing at the end of april for few days and this is my first visit.
Thank you![/QUOTE]Not sure if you still need an answer, but while RTFF end-to-end for upcoming visit, stumbled upon your question; I found and tried the next option:
Times Holiday Hotel, No. 57 Dengshikou Street Dongcheng District (close to Wangfujing), 2 yrs ago about 35-40$. Rooms OK, GF. The action is just a taxi-ride away.
IT Travel,
To give you some info on your surroundings (I would know, as I lived across the street from the Hua Du for about 4 years).
You can get a HJ in the Hua Du hotel salon, no full service as it's curtains only and no private rooms (as of about a year ago).
The hotel you see when you turn right is the Kunlun Hotel. I've never had an issue with any of the girls on the street or the pimps.
The hair salon directly across the street from the Hua Du gives massage with HJ's and some other play if you go in there often enough.
The Salon you mentioned when you turn left from the Hua Du, go 30 meters, and then turn right is legit as it's tied in with a fairly large upscale hair salon.
If you turn left out of the Hua Du, and keep going straight and cross the large street, you will run directly into a masage place that can actually be quite fun. The girls are there for obvious reasons, and they are light hearted and fun and can certainly provide what you're looking for. They also have take-out.
So, if you go to Hua Du again, there's a little more lay of the land for you.
Just Me
[QUOTE=It Travel]I was in Hua Du hotel in Beijing, very convenient to the international airport and to the embassy compound.. Not even so far from city centre.
Here link with descriptions:
[url]http://www.elong.net/hotels/details.aspx?m=details&hotelid=30101022[/url]
Mongering situation is not good at the hotel:
a) From 5-6 pm you usually find one or two couples of girls sitting in front of the reception looking for customers. Girls is a big word, in my opinion they are well over 30 y.o. so nothing for me.
b) There is a guard at the elevator block, usually looking for the papers of the girls. You see a big note (the old Soviet rule) that all the gusts have to be registered and no one is allowed after 23.00 in the room.
c) There is a unisex hairdresser in the hotel. Inside at the left you will find a massage. They asked me if I wanted but the girls was not what I expected… by the way I do not know if there is a FS or only a massage.
d) In the hotel there is, after the elevator block, at the left, the usual hotel shop with a little bit of everything: razor, toothpaste, some underwear, etc. Including Viagra and Cialis! But this will be a chapter on Viagra section, because it’s quite interesting…
In front of the hotel you just have a barber shop with massage sign. Two “miniskirted” girls inside. No idea of what’s going on.
On the road in front of the hotel if you turn right you will find a second hotel (five star) do not remember the name, but in front it’s full of pimps trying to sell you your girls or giving out brothel cards. Some of my Chinese friend warned me because some, not all, of the pimps are a system to rip you off. You agree for so much and the girl want ten times…
It’s more interesting if you turn left get to the first crossing (just 30 meters from the entrance of Hua Du Hotel) and then go over on the other side of the street. You will see a big sign Massage and some time like 11.00 to 2.00. There is a black stair going to the upper floor. Unfortunately I had no time, on ground I was usually out for work up to 1.30 or so, and very tired. But I saw at least three girls getting out from there. Young and nice, some, in my opinion, too petite and curvy to be Chinese. Next time I’ll try.
Soon some interesting facts on Chinese Cialis in Viagra section…
IT[/QUOTE]
Well, well, well, after a long process and schedules that could be matched it seems I will be in Beijing soon.
Any locals that whould like to comment on the scene for:
[url]http://www.ewoo.com.cn/hotelpage/shiqiao_en.html[/url]
Please do.
Oreally
Worm,
Nice. I actually found a few long-term freebies out of similar massage incalls.
Here's a note on how to write a proper field report. First, you failed to post the prices you negotiated. This is really key in most guys' decisions to follow up on your report. Second, you also need to provide enough details on the location so that other guys can find the place.
Happy playin'
Zhuren,
I just wanted to thank you for the info on Pig and Maggies, it was greatly appreciated. I ended up stumbling on Maggies by accident while hitting a few bars with some fellow backpackers; however, didn't go for anything due to the people I was with at the time. But at least now I know for future trips.
Thanks again!
[QUOTE=Xiangjiao]Here's a note on how to write a proper field report. First, you failed to post the prices you negotiated. This is really key in most guys' decisions to follow up on your report. Second, you also need to provide enough details on the location so that other guys can find the place.Happy playin'[/QUOTE]Disagree somewhat here.
First, he published the basic charge which was expensive to start with. Anyone happy paying this much for a "massage" should know that the rest is going to be expensive. If I was happy paying this much for a massage from the dodgy ad's in Thats BJ, then I doubt I would worry too much about the price for the FS/BBBJ; which btw, he did point out was a great service. He publishes the price he paid and I bet anyone, at least half a dozen posts will appear criticising him for overpaying.
Secondly, He quite clearly mentions that he got the info from the back of Thats BJ and that they were located in JianWai Soho. Do you honestly need the exact apartment number on the public board? PM him.
I thought that was a good report and enough information. Keep it up Worm!!
Sid
This is my 2nd report and please bear with me if I made any mistake.
Stayed in Beijing for 2 weeks and explored several massage places:
99 Center Massage: E-Tower01-Rm703 (South of Kerry Center). They advertised on "That's BJ". The place is very clean and high-end. The place is legit, and the massage is so-so, and the ladies are around 24 and up. They have several massage packages, and I got the oil one around 200RMB (don't remember the exact price). I wouldn't go there again since there are much better legit massage places than it.
[url]www.clublesfleurs.com: [/url] (north of Kerry center). It is again 100% legit massage: (Their massage is slightly better than 99, and they have a special price (50% off before 6pm). I got a relaxing oil massage for around 100RMB. The place is large and pretty high-end. They have LCD TV in the massage room.
I stayed in Kerry Center, and called their hotel-massage to send someone to my room. 90 mins for 380RMB. (I know it is pricey, but is very convinence). Unfortunately, the lady is on her 30s. I wasn't interested to ask about extra, and she did not hint anything. So, 100% legit massage and the massage is worse than 99 and [url]www.clublesfleurs.com[/url].
Two nights later, I called Kerry Center hotel-massage again. This time, they are sending me a Mongolian (21 yrs.). I was so happy and my "little brother" was also very happy and was trying to get some attention from the lady. I was touching her, and she kept moving my hands away. I was getting frustrated and asked her whether there is any "special service". She said 1000RMB for HJ. I was tellling her to finish off the massage and she was giving me a lecture on why I should not think about "special service".
Another night, I called up Wang Jing massage and asked them to send someone to Kerry Center. The communication is challenging since I don't know much about Mandrian and they don't know English at all. After some challenging moment, they acknowledged to send someone to my hotel. 30 mins later, a 5-6 level lady showed up. She started with back-massage and went on with butt massage 20 mins later, which was awesome. I started touching her and she was okay with it. At one point, I was moving her T-shirt and bra up to check out her nice breasts. She also let me suck her nipples couple of times. Towards the end, she gave me a great oil HJ. During the session, she asked me whether I am interested in fucking her virigin friend for 3000RMB. I said "not really". The price was 168RMB + taxi (Awesome deal)
I am going back to Beijing next month. I am actually looking for a nude body massage with HJ in Beijing. Since I am chicken to get BJ or FS (disease and others.), nude body massage with HJ is the farthest I can go. ; ) So far, I am not having much luck getting what I want.
[QUOTE=Zhuren]Guys,
I know this is usuaully about budget sex.
But I need something totally different. I need a place in BJ where you get pampered silly for an afternoon in luxurious surroundings. Sauna, shower, a bath, FS with two women who speak passable English, unhurried. It's to entertain some special guests.
The place that comes closest to it is Regency (or "Regify" as they call themselves on the business card) near Lufthansa. Tina, the manager/mamasan can be a little pain to negotiate with. The female selection however is pretty good.
Is there something better? For a lazy afternoon?[/QUOTE]My favorite luxury sauna/massage place is in FENGTAI DISTRICT (South Beijing), between 2nd and 3rd Ring Roads. Take 3rd Ring Road south from GUO MAO/JIANWAI SOHO. When you get to YANG QIAO (? /Yang Bridge), which is about 15 minutes from GUOMAO, make a right turn on MAJIABAO DONG LU. It’s No. 8. Place is called WAN BAO. Something. It’s on right side of road, about 5 minutes from Yang Qiao. It’s a huge restaurant / entertainment center. The sauna is in basement. You will feel like an emperor in this place. Attendants to help you disrobe and put your socks on, comb your hair, whatever. They have the normal sauna scene, including a lounge area with individual TVs to watch. The rooms are luxury bedrooms with their own bathrooms, some have saunas. Also MIRRORS on the ceiling and walls. Red velvet wallpaper and silk sheets. They used to have porn DVDs on the TVs in the room too, not sure if they still do. (I have not been there is 6 months or so.) The prices were RMB900 for an hour of FS and an amazing routine of pre-sex massage and licking, starting with extensive work on the back/butt/legs/feet. (As I remember, the RMB900 includes EVERYTHING, no other charges.) You can choose from a whole lineup of girls and the girls are stunning –or most of them are. Many model quality one there the last time I was there. They will bring 3 at a time to your room. Sometimes the manager will let you go to the girl staging area to pick girls too.
Have fun.
My first BBS experience.
I was driving in a taxi on Ritanbei Lu when I saw a BBS with this nice girl looking out the window. (on the first block on the right side if you come from Gongtidong Lu) I didn't have a lot of time but decided to give it a try. I went in, and there were 4 girls, ranging from ok to nice, plus the one I had seen who was very young (19-20? ) and really beautiful. An 8 or even a 9.
Since I don't speak Mandarin at all I pointed to the pretty one and said "Massage? ". Nobody there spoke English at all, and there was some confusion, so finally I made made a hand job motion. They understood, and said something like "100", we negiotiated a little and came out at 50, or so I thought. It was really difficult because we all did not understand what the other was saying, not even the numbers.
Anyway, I was led to the back room with a massage bed, I opened my pants, and she was getting her stuff. She came back in and started to touch my private parts. Then another of the girls came in and kept talking to me in Chinese, the only thing I could make out was something like "two massage", and I guessed that she wanted to offer two girls. I declined, she insisted, I declined, she insisted etc etc, until she finally left the room.
I was alone with the pretty one now, and she kept talking to me, too, trying to upsell to whatever. She pushed up her blouse so I could play with her perfect tits, and kept whispering to me in Chinese with that very sexy, raspy voice and looking me directly in the eyes. She could have been reading Chinese phone books to me, I wouldn't have cared. It was great!
She didn't go into full motion, though, she tried to sell my some additional service but I couldn't figure out what. Sign language revealed that it was not FS or BJ, but whatever it was, it would've been 200. After I had not agreed to that, she tried to sell me something else for 100, and because I really really wanted her to finish the job by this time, I just said OK after a while.
Then came the nice part, and I was really really really happy soon thereafter.
Of course it was a rip off, because we had already agreed on a lower price, and I'm sorry if I did my part to spoil prices, but even the upselling part was incredibly sexy, and she was worth every penny.
I guess it's just the price I had to pay for being a newbie, and speaking no Chinese at all.
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[quote=travelin guy]wow, a mongolian girl who worked as a femdomme? sounds intriguing! the girl i write about did have pretty good english, but i'm guessing she's not the same girl. she did say she had visited hk though, i remember asking because i was also surprised about her good use of english. but in the taxi ride to the hotel, when we were still freinds, she told me the typical sob story about being 21 yo, had been working in bj for almost 2 years, and had a 2 yo little boy back in mongolia. maybe we just had the wrong type of conversation and had her thinking about all the serious problems in her life rather than the hot and juicy sex i was dreaming about.[/quote]the girl i'm thinking of stands out because she has exceptionally good english. way better than any at m's. she's always dresses elegantly (small black number,) usually a simple string or pearls. can't miss her. sometimes a bit aloof.
speaking of english: ever since sissy left, and ever since karen was demoted from her job as mother superior, the conversational abilities (and the looks) of the new drinking girl talent has been slipping a bit. still, m's is the place to go. there ain't nothing better in town.
if you want a lot of sex: doogie (yeah, that's her name.) looks a bit harsh, but gets better when make-up is off. huge, natural tits. tall, fake blonde. but incredibly enthusiastic in bed. submissive streak.
once, we fucked all night. and she woke me up twice to have another go. finally, i croaked: "girl, this is supposed to be work for you. you are having way too much fun." occasionally, her sister is in town. similarly stacked. real sisters ...
the st. maragaret's best bbbj award goes to the girl from kazakhstan (whatever her name is.) has a slight speech impediment. probably not used to talking without her mouth being full. best head in town.
the "2 year old kid at home" story is common (and often true.) the "i need to go to the airport in the morning. my parents will come visit. they think i'm a cleaning lady" is a favorite story with much less credibility.
[QUOTE=Mojo888]My favorite luxury sauna/massage place is in FENGTAI DISTRICT (South Beijing), between 2nd and 3rd Ring Roads. Take 3rd Ring Road south from GUO MAO/JIANWAI SOHO. When you get to YANG QIAO (? /Yang Bridge), which is about 15 minutes from GUOMAO, make a right turn on MAJIABAO DONG LU. It’s No. 8. Place is called WAN BAO. /Quote
Thank you for the report I would like to try the place out. I could not find a street called Majiabao Dong Lu in Fengtai I did find a MAJIAPU Dong Lu which runs North/South across the third ring road and is s/e of Tiantan . Is this the street??
thank you
Hi Guys,
Just Come Back To A Trip In Beijing I Want To Write Something About Chungxiu Sauna. The Entrance Fee Is 48 Rmb.
I Found It Very Nice,at The Bottom A Cold Bathtube Waiting For You After A Sauna. The Only Negative Thing In The Sauna Is Buying Pyjamas, They Have Different Prices (from 130 Rmb To 360 Rmb), But If You Have One There Are No Problems, And If You Buy One It's Yours,yuo Can Use It Other Times.
And Then You Go Upstairs, They Have An English Menu:
After Regular Massages It Starts With A Massage With Hand Job 340 Rmb, Massage With Sex (unfortunately Without Blowjob) 504 Rmb, Complete Massage (tongue Plays With Hot And Cold Water,ice,blow Jobs And Sex) 840 Rmb. All 1 Hour Stay.
In The Sauna I Have Seen Only Beautyful Girls, They Have A Number So You Can Remember. I Stayed With A Nice Girl Called Miao Miao Nr. 868 (unfortunately She Doesn't Speak English), Good To Make You Everything!!!!
I Advise This Sauna!
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Hi,
I sincerely appreciate your reports, but...
[red][u]Would you please REFRAIN from capitalizing the first letter of EVERY word in your reports![/u][/red]
It's difficult to read, it's time consuming to fix, and it takes you more work to write like that.
On behalf of myself and your fellow Forum Members: [i]Thank You![/i]
Jackson[/blue]
Hi Guys,
I stay in Beijing for some weeks and try to test the massage-services advertising in That's Beijing and trying to catch some clients in the street in front of the hotel.
2 experiences from today:
1) Tried Apple Massage Service in Jianwei soho. Apartment, clean, 2-3 girls, 5-6, Massage: soso. Offers CBJ and FS, about 800 Y
2) Mamasan in front of the hotel. Name of massage service: miao miao, very late, to much drinks. Bad massage, ugly girl. 500 Y for a bad experience.
Maybe tomorrow is a better day.
[QUOTE=Ontario Boy][QUOTE=Mojo888]My favorite luxury sauna/massage place is in FENGTAI DISTRICT (South Beijing), between 2nd and 3rd Ring Roads. Take 3rd Ring Road south from GUO MAO/JIANWAI SOHO. When you get to YANG QIAO (? /Yang Bridge), which is about 15 minutes from GUOMAO, make a right turn on MAJIABAO DONG LU. It’s No. 8. Place is called WAN BAO. /Quote
Thank you for the report I would like to try the place out. I could not find a street called Majiabao Dong Lu in Fengtai I did find a MAJIAPU Dong Lu which runs North/South across the third ring road and is s/e of Tiantan . Is this the street??
thank you[/QUOTE]Re LOCATION of this LUXURY SAUNA: no, it is not MAJIAPU Dong Lu. It is MAJIABAO Dong Lu--this road turns into Taiping Jie when it goes north of 2nd Ring Road. At 2nd Ring Road, a landmark is the Taoranting Park: this road runs along the southeast corner of that park. Looking at the big picture, MAJIABAO Lu is the next major street WEST of QIANMEN DA JIE, which also runs and-S.
Thanks Sid, If I had putdown what I actually paid you know I would have gotten twice as many comments bitching about how we are ruining the market.
I am not going to name places, because the man does read things like this. But one was a misspelled one of a kind and the other sounded like a place to take your wife on easter. Figure it out yourself.
I don't hobby that frequently, but when I do, I want two things - quality and discretion. I can't get either one at Maggies or the Pig. Price is not my object. In fact, if I could get the kind of quality I know my Chinese friends can get I would gladly pay thousands.
[QUOTE=SidTheSexist]Disagree somewhat here.
First, he published the basic charge which was expensive to start with. Anyone happy paying this much for a "massage" should know that the rest is going to be expensive. If I was happy paying this much for a massage from the dodgy ad's in Thats BJ, then I doubt I would worry too much about the price for the FS/BBBJ; which btw, he did point out was a great service. He publishes the price he paid and I bet anyone, at least half a dozen posts will appear criticising him for overpaying.
Secondly, He quite clearly mentions that he got the info from the back of Thats BJ and that they were located in JianWai Soho. Do you honestly need the exact apartment number on the public board? PM him.
I thought that was a good report and enough information. Keep it up Worm!!
Sid[/QUOTE]
Mojo888 in 05 you wrote this post:
"Here are three saunas in in Chaoyang area of Beijing. All are close by to each other. Start from Zhaolong Hotel, which is on corner of 3rd Ring Rd. East and Gongti Bei Rd, the same road that the Sanlitun Bar Street is on. Continue east from Zhaolong Hotel (the direction of 4th Ring Rd). When you cross 3rd Ring Rd. the road name changes from Gonti Bei Rd to somethng else. Not sure what it is, but continue east and pass over 4th Ring Rd. Past 4th Ring, turn RIGHT at the second traffic light. Then, on the left side of the road, about 100 meters down the road, is a big sauna place. At this place they offer a massage/blow job/breast massage combo for around RMB300-350. Nice clean upscale place. The girls vary month to month. Always best to decline and see the next one if you don't like the one they bring."
I tried finding this, has it closed since then? I know in Chaoyang a lot of the sauna's have been shut down.
I've been frequenting the Wang Jing MP but that is really far away from the Chaoyang Guomao area. The more expensive apartment style places don't interest me since the service is usually worse than the Wang Jing MP.
Anyone have new places in Chaoyang to enjoy a full body massage/breast massage? That 300-350 price that Mojo mentions a while back is amazing. It's double the Wang Jing charges but offers much more service.
[QUOTE=Worm]Thanks Sid, If I had putdown what I actually paid you know I would have gotten twice as many comments bitching about how we are ruining the market.I don't hobby that frequently, but when I do, I want two things - quality and discretion. I can't get either one at Maggies or the Pig. Price is not my object.[/QUOTE]I was in the Pig the other night. What a mess! Admitedly, I was mixing in with the chinese corner, but jeez!! I dont think there was a single girl in there above a 5. Its not that Im having a go at the Pig, I actually like the place. It makes me wonder two things. Firstly, the nerve some of these girls have going in there expecting guys to pay 800rmb to root them, and second, what the fuck are some of these guys thinking actually doing it!?!?! I've seen way better SW's than the majority of those I witnessed the other night. I wouldnt be so bothered if it wasnt 40rmb for a beer. I should at least be allowed to expect a bit of quality in such establishments.
Sid
Xie xie! We'll have the place identified, and will check it out.
Any others, gents?
ZR
[QUOTE=Mojo888]My favorite luxury sauna/massage place is in FENGTAI DISTRICT (South Beijing), between 2nd and 3rd Ring Roads. Take 3rd Ring Road south from GUO MAO/JIANWAI SOHO. When you get to YANG QIAO (? /Yang Bridge), which is about 15 minutes from GUOMAO, make a right turn on MAJIABAO DONG LU. It’s No. 8. Place is called WAN BAO. Something. It’s on right side of road, about 5 minutes from Yang Qiao. It’s a huge restaurant / entertainment center. The sauna is in basement. You will feel like an emperor in this place. Attendants to help you disrobe and put your socks on, comb your hair, whatever. They have the normal sauna scene, including a lounge area with individual TVs to watch. The rooms are luxury bedrooms with their own bathrooms, some have saunas. Also MIRRORS on the ceiling and walls. Red velvet wallpaper and silk sheets. They used to have porn DVDs on the TVs in the room too, not sure if they still do. (I have not been there is 6 months or so.) The prices were RMB900 for an hour of FS and an amazing routine of pre-sex massage and licking, starting with extensive work on the back/butt/legs/feet. (As I remember, the RMB900 includes EVERYTHING, no other charges.) You can choose from a whole lineup of girls and the girls are stunning –or most of them are. Many model quality one there the last time I was there. They will bring 3 at a time to your room. Sometimes the manager will let you go to the girl staging area to pick girls too.
Have fun.[/QUOTE]
Hi, sorry, I have not been to these places in a while. The first one mentioned is likely to still be there. Just my hunch. Re finding the first sauna I mention: It's in a small retail complex. Has one of those oversized neon signs and is on right side of the retail complex. Next to it (on left) is a restaurant and a hairdresser. Plus there is a small hairdresser in the right side inside the sauna lobby itself, which you can see from outside door)
[QUOTE=Nynyny]Mojo888 in 05 you wrote this post:
"Here are three saunas in in Chaoyang area of Beijing. All are close by to each other. Start from Zhaolong Hotel, which is on corner of 3rd Ring Rd. East and Gongti Bei Rd, the same road that the Sanlitun Bar Street is on. Continue east from Zhaolong Hotel (the direction of 4th Ring Rd). When you cross 3rd Ring Rd. the road name changes from Gonti Bei Rd to somethng else. Not sure what it is, but continue east and pass over 4th Ring Rd. Past 4th Ring, turn RIGHT at the second traffic light. Then, on the left side of the road, about 100 meters down the road, is a big sauna place. At this place they offer a massage/blow job/breast massage combo for around RMB300-350. Nice clean upscale place. The girls vary month to month. Always best to decline and see the next one if you don't like the one they bring."
I tried finding this, has it closed since then? I know in Chaoyang a lot of the sauna's have been shut down.
I've been frequenting the Wang Jing MP but that is really far away from the Chaoyang Guomao area. The more expensive apartment style places don't interest me since the service is usually worse than the Wang Jing MP.
Anyone have new places in Chaoyang to enjoy a full body massage/breast massage? That 300-350 price that Mojo mentions a while back is amazing. It's double the Wang Jing charges but offers much more service.[/QUOTE]
The Tianlun Dynasty is going to be closing (not sure when or how long) for renovations. Too bad, the sauna/KTV sounded like promising backups and the price was right. Back to the drawing board, reservation cancelled.
I believe the Regent is close by, and has some good reviews (as a hotel) on other sites. I didn't find it in this page, though. Would anyone like to comment (or offer comparisons to other well-reviewed higher-end hotels) with respect to the important matters pertaining to this board?
DrN
[QUOTE=SidTheSexist]I was in the Pig the other night. I dont think there was a single girl in there above a 5. Firstly, the nerve some of these girls have going in there expecting guys to pay 800rmb to root them, I should at least be allowed to expect a bit of quality in such establishments.
Sid[/QUOTE]
If the PIG is anything, its variable. I have been to the PIG when it was full of very nice lookers, and other nights where it was terrible. I think you have to be prepared to go elsewhere by 9:30pm if you can't find anything to your liking. As for why to guys pay a lot for low quality - convenience i would suggest. However I have found the girls are normally willing to negociate and do provide good service (esp the chinese), so while far more expensive than SW's - its not too outragious.
However in general i agree with you - I like the PIG, but I have to admit that on most nights I end up elsewhere to get my hit.
Update - There are a lot of new girls in town at Hollywood and while i have to admit the selection can very very variable also - esp if the girls think its a slow night - it looked pretty good to me last friday. I also went back to the China World to see if the SW's and mama-sans had returned - they had not. Even the bench across from the Bobbins ice cream parlour was gone. What a shame.
First report, first try.
Forgive me my lingual mistakes, not a native speaker.
Come to Beijing since a couple of years. At the end nothing essential has chanced over the past decade. It is still the PIG, Hardrock, and Meggies tour which you have to do.
If you are not speaking any chinese like me, you are lost in the majority of any other places which are recommanded in this forum. I dislike Den because you cannot stand there for a second without being asked by a waiter what you would like to drink, even you are still holding a glass in your hand.
On the other side, I try on every visit Treasury Island the russian restaurant/bar next to the Hollywood. The atmosphere their had changed, because recently I saw much more non Russians in there like ever before. You will find freebies and professionals their, but if you are alone and not a James Bond type of a guy, you have to wait until they ask you to dance with them which is normally very late ( after 2.30). Same in Absinta but much more chinese professionals their now as before.
In Meggies my alltime faverite the question of choice is sometimes complicated. If you are not making your decision on time you will be lost because somebody else is faster. I can recommand all the Ladies around the billard table specially the two chinese girls (Sky and her friend). Not the best looking but nice personalities and good performers. The advantage in Meggies is that the price for 90% of the girls is fixed ($100/night). Don t pay more. From the Mongolian fraction the older girls are nicer than their younger competitors. The majority of the girls is in the 5-7 range, but try to please you. Just try one and change her the next evening if you are not happy with her service. The place is totally relaxed with a lot of hugging when you see old friends.
I have been told that they will shutdown for the Olympics because that is required by the government. Can somebody confirm this?
Arrived in Beijing two days ago. Just tried to call WangJing MP's phone, and the message (from the phone company) said that the phone service is not operational (or something like that). [I used the same phone number before and it was working]
Not sure what happens w/ WangJing MP. Any folks have any insight?
Will try to go there myself over the weekend if time permits.
It looks like Hooters is opening up outside the Den.
[QUOTE=DogRice]Arrived in Beijing two days ago. Just tried to call WangJing MP's phone, and the message (from the phone company) said that the phone service is not operational (or something like that). [I used the same phone number before and it was working]
Not sure what happens w/ WangJing MP. Any folks have any insight?
Will try to go there myself over the weekend if time permits.[/QUOTE]
I think they are undergoing some major renovation and expansion. They are taking over the space of the Korean restaurant next door. When I visited them about 2 weeks ago, it was business as usual. But I'm not sure whether phone line might have been affected by the renovation?
Sniffer
[QUOTE=George 6969]I have been told that they will shutdown for the Olympics because that is required by the government. Can somebody confirm this?[/QUOTE]There are A LOT of rumors of what is going to happen (or not to happen) during the Olympics. According to popular wisdom, Beijing will be cordoned-off by military, only green cars with a license plate ending in a 7 will be allowed inside 3rd ring road on Thursdays, you will be able to see a deep blue sky and breathe normally. Don't believe any of it - yet.
If there is a clamp-down, M's will be last to be clamped down on.
[QUOTE=SidTheSexist]It looks like Hooters is opening up outside the Den.[/QUOTE]There goes the neighborpood. Is it a real or a fake Hooters? To lazy to go over there. And how will they ever get properly stacked waitpersons in this land?
Can someone recommend a decent hotel in 100USD range that is GF and close to the action. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Zhuren]There goes the neighborpood. Is it a real or a fake Hooters? To lazy to go over there. And how will they ever get properly stacked waitpersons in this land?[/QUOTE]
In Shanghai the Hooters restaurants are real.
I suspect the Beijing Hooters will be real.
Anyway, they end up getting chubby Chinese girls, at least in Shanghai that is what they get.
They are not particularly interesting unless you are into this sort of body type.
MAB
[QUOTE=Mock A Bee]In Shanghai the Hooters restaurants are real.
I suspect the Beijing Hooters will be real.
Anyway, they end up getting chubby Chinese girls, at least in Shanghai that is what they get.[/QUOTE]Well, they could employ our most favorite ambassadors from Ulan Bator.
I saw that sign the other day too. It's a brilliant choice for a location, and guarantees a lot of american television coverage during the Olympics:
"Here in todays Beijing, the cradle of the communist party, they even have a Hooters restaurant".
don't forget that the stadium across the street is a major venue for the 2008 games. That Hooters will make a ton of money.
[QUOTE=Zhuren]There are A LOT of rumors of what is going to happen (or not to happen) during the Olympics. According to popular wisdom, Beijing will be cordoned-off by military, only green cars with a license plate ending in a 7 will be allowed inside 3rd ring road on Thursdays, you will be able to see a deep blue sky and breathe normally. Don't believe any of it - yet.
If there is a clamp-down, M's will be last to be clamped down on.[/QUOTE]
I am surprised Maggies has lasted this long. When they moved to the new site I was sure they would end up getting some ambassadors wife all wound up, and she would bend the right ear at some function and the place would be empty the next morning. The new site is a bit in the face of the diplomatic community - particularly the American Ambassador and UK ambassador's residence. I guess all of Bush's political appointees are not right wing fundamentalist christians!
At any rate, Maggies seems to be well connected, but good connections will run away if the heat gets too hot. I expect they will close Maggies for the Olympics, mainly to make sure that no reporter gets a great scoop about some athletes getting some late night exercise, and a story about China's sex industry instead of the economic miracle.
[QUOTE=Worm]I expect they will close Maggies for the Olympics, mainly to make sure that no reporter gets a great scoop about some athletes getting some late night exercise, and a story about China's sex industry instead of the economic miracle.[/QUOTE] Last year there was an African summit that took place in Beijing. Around 6,000 people from Africa traveled to Beijing for various meetings. This was described as being a trial run of many of the procedures that will be in place when the Olympics is held next year. Things actually ran very smoothly. During this time Maggie’s was open, but they did not let in any out-side girls. The girls that worked for the bar were still there, but there was certainly no funny business. I suspect Maggie’s will follow the same routine – keep the doors open, but the Mongolian and Russian girls out.
Sammy
[QUOTE=Worm]I am surprised Maggies has lasted this long. When they moved to the new site I was sure they would end up getting some ambassadors wife all wound up, and she would bend the right ear at some function and the place would be empty the next morning. The new site is a bit in the face of the diplomatic community - particularly the American Ambassador and UK ambassador's residence. I guess all of Bush's political appointees are not right wing fundamentalist christians!
At any rate, Maggies seems to be well connected, but good connections will run away if the heat gets too hot. I expect they will close Maggies for the Olympics, mainly to make sure that no reporter gets a great scoop about some athletes getting some late night exercise, and a story about China's sex industry instead of the economic miracle.[/QUOTE]Actually M's is a favorite hangout of the contractors who work on the NEW US embassy. If you see the rugged, tool-belt types wih western hats: Construction workers with a clearance.
The US Embassy itself has taken an interest in the Chinese sex industry as this link attests: [url]http://www.usembassy-china.org.cn/sandt/sex-industry.html[/url]
That article even has a link to a proverbial business manual of the Chinese sex business: [url]http://www.unchina.org/unaids/enews5.html[/url] . Visits to Maggies can probably be charged as "research expenses" by US Embassy staffers.
[QUOTE=Mojo888][QUOTE=Ontario Boy]Re LOCATION of this LUXURY SAUNA: no, it is not MAJIAPU Dong Lu. It is MAJIABAO Dong Lu--this road turns into Taiping Jie when it goes north of 2nd Ring Road. At 2nd Ring Road, a landmark is the Taoranting Park: this road runs along the southeast corner of that park. Looking at the big picture, MAJIABAO Lu is the next major street WEST of QIANMEN DA JIE, which also runs and-S.[/QUOTE]I have shown this description to my indigneous support personnel, and they could not identify the place. I have enclosed a clip from my most favorite on-line Beijing map ([url]http://www.mapmatrix.com/asia/02101.pdf[/url] ) showing the Taoranting Park. Could someone please mark that sauna with a dot? Come to think of it, maps with dots could come in handy for the local cabbies.
[QUOTE=Zhuren]The US Embassy itself has taken an interest in the Chinese sex industry as this link attests: [url]http://www.usembassy-china.org.cn/sandt/sex-industry.html[/url][/QUOTE]According to the (slightly outdated) data published on the US Embassy website, in China "the contribution of the 'sex industry' to the GDP comes in at about 12.1 - 12.8 percent."
A more recent and in-depth study of the Chinese sex business can be found at [url]http://www.xingfu.se/kina/Prostitution%20in%20China.pdf[/url] This is a Masters Thesis presented to the Department of Chinese of the Center of for Language and Literature of the Faculty of Humanities at Lund University, Sweden.
According to this study, "the entire country may have ten million or more prostitutes at any given time, in a conservative estimate. If every prostitute brings in two hundred yuan each day on average—a conservative assumption—, the daily turn-around is two billion yuan, or seven hundred billion yuan a year. This is of the same scale as the total Shanghai GDP in 2004, or five percent of entire China’s GDP the same year, still in a conservative hypothesis."
(This is a very detailled study. Maps on pages 26 and 27 for instance show every sex oriented establishment in the Shanghai Jiading district. I wish the study would have been conducted in Beijing.)
The US pushes China to change from an export oriented economy to a consumption oriented economy. A totally consumption oriented industry (sex) coming in at between 5% and 13% of GDP should have all the attention of the US Commercial Attaches. Which may be one of the many explanations why Maggie's, a proverbial showcase of that industry sector, is very welcome in the embassy district.
Soho "New Town" (the oldest SOHO with the colored buildings) sports a number of apartment style massage places.
These establishments are usually advertised in magazines targeted at Japanese expats. A good one is "Concierge" magazine (the pocket version.) It will be in Japanese, advertising Chinese places, but there is some English.
The establishments purport to be in the "A" tower of Soho New Town, but actually they are across the street in the "Orange" and "Red" building. Call the number in the magazines, or simply go to Soho New Town (Jian Guo Lu, which is an extension of Chang an Ave, between 3rd and 4th Ring Road, corner of Dawanglu) and call any of the phone numbers prominently displayed in the windows of the "Orange" and "Red" buildings. Dawanglu subway station. The mamasan sometimes has a little English. They need to give you a room number. You give the number to the building guard, he smiles and buzzes you in.
It's FS with the usual bath & lick & fire & ice treatment. Asking price is 800. 1000 RMB for the full course, the actual price is left to your negotiation skills.
The girls are quite enthusiastic. Given that they are geared towards Japanese clientele, Caucasian members may be a tight fit. The A tower across the street has some Japanese hostess bars hidden away.
Zhuren,
Thank you. You named the asking prices that you were quoted. That was what I was hoping Worm would provide. No offense, Worm. In all other respects, your report was very welcome and helpful and got me thinking about exploring these venues again.
A couple of years ago, I had some great experiences from the MPs listed in the Japanese magazines with their awesome insert maps. FS was around Y600. After a lot of searching, I found some real model quality. However, those places were no longer operating when I looked again a year later.
Then the problem became how to choose among the dozens of incall MPs listed, especially since there is so little to go on to make a decision. I really didn't have the time to go look at the selection at each one. That's why the detailed report by Worm earlier on Soho MPs was great. But to really benefit me, I would need to know how to find the two incall places he mentioned among the dozens listed in the mags.
Some of the incalls are owned and run by the same operation, so they share their girls. I found this to be the case a couple of years ago. I became friends with one of the mamasans and found out that she ran three different apartment incalls. One was near the 21st century hotel and had a traditional Asian costume theme that was kinda kinky (they dressed in qipaos and cheap kimonos). If a customer wanted to see more girls, she would arrange for girls at one of her other incalls to taxi over. It would be helpful to have current information about which incalls are run by the same people.
If you think that the incall MPs are all the same quality, then you wouldn't be interested in the details. I, however, think the quality and service of the various girls in the various places can differ drastically. Hence, I am interested in seeking out the one or two incalls that are the best among the dozens listed.
Maybe we can pool our resources and divide the numbers among us. Then we can report back to each other on the quality and prices at each location. Actually, I was thinking about doing this with regard to some saunas in Chaoyang, too. PM me if interested.
[QUOTE=Zhuren]Soho "New Town" (the oldest SOHO with the colored buildings) sports a number of apartment style massage places.
These establishments are usually advertised in magazines targeted at Japanese expats. A good one is "Concierge" magazine (the pocket version.) It will be in Japanese, advertising Chinese places, but there is some English.
The establishments purport to be in the "A" tower of Soho New Town, but actually they are across the street in the "Orange" and "Red" building. Call the number in the magazines, or simply go to Soho New Town (Jian Guo Lu, which is an extension of Chang an Ave, between 3rd and 4th Ring Road, corner of Dawanglu) and call any of the phone numbers prominently displayed in the windows of the "Orange" and "Red" buildings. Dawanglu subway station. The mamasan sometimes has a little English. They need to give you a room number. You give the number to the building guard, he smiles and buzzes you in.
It's FS with the usual bath & lick & fire & ice treatment. Asking price is 800. 1000 RMB for the full course, the actual price is left to your negotiation skills.
The girls are quite enthusiastic. Given that they are geared towards Japanese clientele, Caucasian members may be a tight fit. The A tower across the street has some Japanese hostess bars hidden away.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Worm]I am surprised Maggies has lasted this long. When they moved to the new site I was sure they would end up getting some ambassadors wife all wound up, and she would bend the right ear at some function and the place would be empty the next morning. The new site is a bit in the face of the diplomatic community - particularly the American Ambassador and UK ambassador's residence. I guess all of Bush's political appointees are not right wing fundamentalist christians!
At any rate, Maggies seems to be well connected, but good connections will run away if the heat gets too hot. I expect they will close Maggies for the Olympics, mainly to make sure that no reporter gets a great scoop about some athletes getting some late night exercise, and a story about China's sex industry instead of the economic miracle.[/QUOTE]
I can assure you Maggie's is exceptionally well connected.
However yes, even good connections have a limit.
MAB
[quote=xiangjiao]
a couple of years ago, i had some great experiences from the mps listed in the japanese magazines with their awesome insert maps. fs was around y600. after a lot of searching, i found some real model quality. however, those places were no longer operating when i looked again a year later.
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maybe we can pool our resources and divide the numbers among us. then we can report back to each other on the quality and prices at each location. actually, i was thinking about doing this with regard to some saunas in chaoyang, too. pm me if interested.[/quote]according to my (limited) research, the japanese magazines and especially the detail offered in them change faster than the massage places themselves. from one issue to the other, detailled offerings (such as "ed course") go down to "therapeutical massage. " the places however stay the same. accepting reasearch assignments.
[QUOTE=Zhuren][QUOTE=Mojo888]I have shown this description to my indigneous support personnel, and they could not identify the place. I have enclosed a clip from my most favorite on-line Beijing map ([url]http://www.mapmatrix.com/asia/02101.pdf[/url] ) showing the Taoranting Park. Could someone please mark that sauna with a dot? Come to think of it, maps with dots could come in handy for the local cabbies.[/QUOTE]A foolproof way to get there is to approach it from the SOUTH: follow third-ring road to YANG QIAO and turn right on MAJIABAO Rd and proceed to No. 8 MAJIABAO RD. Looking at your map, south third ring road is not shown, but MAJIABAO RD is shown (though misspelled as MAJIABOA RD). It's just south of YONGDINGMEN XIBINHE RD (which runs east-west) and MAJIABAO RD is the continuation of TAIPING ST (next to TAORANTING PARK) when it goes south of YONGDINGMEN XIBINHE RD. [also, MAJIABAO RD is just east of BEIJING SOUTH STATION in your map] In my original instructions I was wrong to mention that 2nd Ring road is just north of MAJIABAO RD. Also, I see from your map, the road YONGDINGMEN NEI (which runs and-S and is west of Tiantan Park is called QIANMEN in other maps.
Hope you find it. Also note that not speaking Chinese is no big deal here. They know what you want and just go with the flow. Also, many if not all rooms have showers/bathrooms. A trend the ladies were using last time I was there was to use fizzing/hot/popping candy in their mouths while doing blow jobs.
Wangjing area, which is not far from Lido Hotel, is populated by many Koreans and to a lesser extent, Japanese people. Therefore there are many massage parlors in apartment buildings in this area to service the needs of the community. The huge complex called Wangjing New City (Wangjing Xin Cheng) is one of the biggest apartment complexes in the area and is "shopping center" full of massage opportunities. The complex is broken into areas: building names in the 300s are Area 3; in the 400s are Area 4, and so forth. One fine establishment is in Building 419, near Guangshun South Street, not far from the Starbucks and Nirvana Fitness in this area. This place is just finishing renovation now and has lots more private rooms with double beds. Excellent oil massage and hand jobs are offered in a nice friendly environment for RMB160. No, sex, at least IN HOUSE. The girls are pretty good, but you have to shop around. No. 56 is excellent! No. 22 is good too. (not sure if she is still there). After you get to know the girls, most will let you feel them up, even--depending on the chemistry you create and your charm--take their shirts off and even skirts off. Also, outcall is available and if you are a regular of one of the girls, additional services COULD be available, depending on the girl for a modest tip. Anyone have other places in the area, or favorite girls to report on?
Got you now. Xie xie. Yes, the fizzing candy seems to be a new trend. Reminded me of centuries back when we had it as kids in Germany, was called "Brausepulver." Something similar would be Pop-Rocks in the US. It was supposed to be mixed with water, with the intended end-product being soda-pop. We used to pour it into the navel and the girl licked it out. Or the pussy and we licked it out. First literary mention in Guenther Grass, "Die Blechtrommel." The Chinese girls use it similarly. Most of the "rimming" by the way is being done with yello-cones. When you are on your tummy, it feels just like a tongue in you ass. But it's a cone of (kindof harder) yello the girl has in her mouth. Whatever works, and more sanitary anyway. At our last visits, we secured some of the cones as evidence.
[QUOTE=Mojo888][QUOTE=Zhuren]A foolproof way to get there is to approach it from the SOUTH: follow third-ring road to YANG QIAO and turn right on MAJIABAO Rd and proceed to No. 8 MAJIABAO RD. Looking at your map, south third ring road is not shown, but MAJIABAO RD is shown (though misspelled as MAJIABOA RD). It's just south of YONGDINGMEN XIBINHE RD (which runs east-west) and MAJIABAO RD is the continuation of TAIPING ST (next to TAORANTING PARK) when it goes south of YONGDINGMEN XIBINHE RD. [also, MAJIABAO RD is just east of BEIJING SOUTH STATION in your map] In my original instructions I was wrong to mention that 2nd Ring road is just north of MAJIABAO RD. Also, I see from your map, the road YONGDINGMEN NEI (which runs and-S and is west of Tiantan Park is called QIANMEN in other maps.
Hope you find it. Also note that not speaking Chinese is no big deal here. They know what you want and just go with the flow. Also, many if not all rooms have showers/bathrooms. A trend the ladies were using last time I was there was to use fizzing/hot/popping candy in their mouths while doing blow jobs.[/QUOTE]
Last night I had an opportunity to visit the Pig. It is easy to understand the negative comments recently about this place. The time was about nine o’clock, and the crowd seemed about 50/50 male/female. In appearance, I would describe the female customers as highly variable. One young lady approached me shortly after my entrance, and the only word that comes to mind is “ghastly”. Where does “ghastly” rank on the scale? I am sure she is a fine person and beloved by her parents, but completely unsuitable from a mongering point of view. Anyway, I made some small talk with more passable attendees and bought a couple drinks for them.
Later I did spot one quite attractive girl, tall, Mongolian-looking, great figure, dressed to accentuate her advantages, slightly exposed midriff revealing a rose tattoo. I would award her a 7+. She claims to be from Shenyang. Seymour and I were fantasizing about what we could do with those tits, for starters. We began to discuss price, and she happened to have her pocket calculator handy. I was not surprised to see an opening offer of 1,500. I scoffed, bidding 400. After some discussion, I could not penetrate below 800, so we reluctantly parted. I felt reluctant, don’t know about her.
A few minutes later I enjoyed an enriching cultural experience, talking to an ethnic Kazakh from southern Xinjiang. Her family raises horses there. She is 27 and divorced. Mesmerized, I invited her to my room for an inspection of my etchings. She turned out to be a good sport, good BBBJ, and patient. She offered to guide me in Xinjiang when she returns there for a summer vacation. Six hundred, but no pictures.
[QUOTE=Nynyny]Mojo888 in 05 you wrote this post:
"Here are three saunas in in Chaoyang area of Beijing. All are close by to each other. Start from Zhaolong Hotel, which is on corner of 3rd Ring Rd. East and Gongti Bei Rd, the same road that the Sanlitun Bar Street is on. Continue east from Zhaolong Hotel (the direction of 4th Ring Rd). When you cross 3rd Ring Rd. the road name changes from Gonti Bei Rd to somethng else. Not sure what it is, but continue east and pass over 4th Ring Rd. Past 4th Ring, turn RIGHT at the second traffic light. Then, on the left side of the road, about 100 meters down the road, is a big sauna place. At this place they offer a massage/blow job/breast massage combo for around RMB300-350. Nice clean upscale place. The girls vary month to month. Always best to decline and see the next one if you don't like the one they bring."
I tried finding this, has it closed since then? I know in Chaoyang a lot of the sauna's have been shut down.
I've been frequenting the Wang Jing MP but that is really far away from the Chaoyang Guomao area. The more expensive apartment style places don't interest me since the service is usually worse than the Wang Jing MP.
Anyone have new places in Chaoyang to enjoy a full body massage/breast massage? That 300-350 price that Mojo mentions a while back is amazing. It's double the Wang Jing charges but offers much more service.[/QUOTE]Re this first sauna I mention, it is definitely open: start from Sanlitun / Zhaolong hotel and head east ( Gongtibei rd/ Nongzhanguan rd); after you pass 4th ring road on the road make right on second traffic light (not counting one crossing light). You will see a home inn on the left after you make the turn. Go to second small retail cluster on the left. It has a hair salon / restaurant / sauna. Building no. Is "114" and it is just before the first intersection and a kfc.
I was just at this place the other day, and the problem in finding it is they always have the lobby lights on dim and it looks like it is closed. But it is very much open. A sichuan girl (no. 20) is amazing. Again, rmb300 for oil massage with breast massage. Moderately nice place, clean and decent nice overall. Friendly service.
Today I went to WangJing MP (named Yong Mei Zi) and they still open. They got a new phone number. If any of you want to know the number, please PM me.
[QUOTE=DogRice]Arrived in Beijing two days ago. Just tried to call WangJing MP's phone, and the message (from the phone company) said that the phone service is not operational (or something like that). [I used the same phone number before and it was working]
Not sure what happens w/ WangJing MP. Any folks have any insight?
Will try to go there myself over the weekend if time permits.[/QUOTE]
I had only a single afternoon in Beijing while transiting to Central Asia. Due to jet lag and an early morning departure I opted for an escort, Hebe from [url]http://www.sexyescortads.com/escort-146-80279/[/url]. I had emailed her a few times over a period of weeks and she agreed to be available early in the day. When I finally flew in, I called her from my hotel at 11:00 in the morning and she came right over.
Hebe was cute, had medium bolt-ons, and was friendly and accessible. Her English was good, but her choice of turn-on talk was a little creepy! Example, "You are a grandfather?!? You can be my grandfather and I your little girl! I am very sympathetic to needs of grandfather!" Ick.
She was completely cool with everything we had agreed on in advance for the flat $100, but tried to upsell for another $100 when I suggested some minor variations. I declined in a friendly way and all continued cool. I got no bad vibes about safety or security, and her skills were considerable. All in all, a fun way to spend a dead afternoon of transit.
Cheers everybody
I tried one of the sauna places prveiously described. Take a left on 3rd Ring road at Zhaolong Hotel and turn right 2nd light after 4th ring. I was walking around a bit and found several saunas. One was on the right side of the road, a flat building but communication was a bit difficult. I headed back and entered the place with a large red chinese neon light.
The place is quite clean and friendly. It was around midnight already and there were not many people anymore. Sauna and pools seemed ok. I headed straight upstairs and picked a taller girl with nice breasts. Went to the room and she start right away with breast massage on my back. Was not overly exiting and I asked for a regular massage. Also this was not very professional but she was very kind. I turned around and she concentrated on the hot spot using some baby oil. Now here her skills came far better out. Was quite nice and then she took her legs under my body so I came to rest in her lap and my slipped right between her breasts which she nicely lubed before with babyoil. What a sight and finish. Was very relaxing. Overall good performance and damage was 381 including one drink and pyjamas which I had to buy. Blowjob and taking off her dress fully was denied. Overall not bad and recommendable.
The next evening I headed to my favourite, Maggies, at around 11, was still pretty empty so I decided to take a walk to Absenta since I was never there.
For those who don't know just walk the street from Maggies along the embassies and turn right at the Mexican restaurant which is on the left. After 100 m Absenta is on the left. Went down and ordered a drink, a russian band was playing and some were dancing but overall pretty boring. Some good lookers walked by but all with companions already. So I left and headed back to the holy grail by midnight.
Maggies was back to its usual life and I spotted right away some old favourites . My lovely blond provider from S.t Petersburg was already busy with another buddy so I kept looking alround. Focused on a nice looking girl about 1,6 m short and not overdressed ( or should I better say underdressed ) like the mongolians. I was right away caught by her beautiful smile. Started a nice small talk and found out she was from Ukraine. I asked her the price and she smiled, you know it anyway, do you?
We quickly agreed on the terms, 800 RMB for the whole night, and went back to my Hotel which is the Landmark. Sometimes they ask girls after midnight for the passport but only chinese or mongolian. We walked by the security guys, smiled and went to the elevators.
Back in the room she turned out to be one of the best girls I had in a long time. The whole night was really like being with a longtime girlfriend. She had a veryy sexy voice when she spoke english with that nice russian accent.
She started off with a long and very sensitive bbbj, licking all the way up and down, deep-throating, using her hands very skillfully not the typical Stroke-up-and-come. She really enjoyed to keep me on the edge.
We change to daty and she responded immediately with all sorts of boy motions. She pulled her legs up to her neck and spread her pussy for me fingering herself in between and then shed came like a volcano. You can tell by the flow of her juices and her breath. After a short break and she went back down for another session of bbbj where she kept looking at me.
Fellow mongers there is nothing better in the world than having a nice girl between your legs taking you in, looking at you with beautiful sexy eyes and she is very obviously having real fun with that.
This is definitely the way I want to die.
She then put the rubber on, very slowly still always looking at me and we go the whole round with all positions. After about half an hour we were both fully exhausted and I still did not come, tried to keep it back too long to enjoy the time.
So we both fell back for a rest and another round of chats. Since she felt obliged to return what I did to here with my daty she went back down again fora bbbj and brought me up again. With a nice smile again, she said " I want to see you come now" and did not stop before her promise was fulfilled. Some come was dripping out of her mouth into her hand which she kept until she went into the bathroom. What a nice girl, don't even made a mess on the bedsheet. We fell asleep and repeated the session the next morning or should I better say at lunch.
What a bargain for 800 kwai. Sad for all of you is that she is leaving in 5 days heading back home.
What really puzzled me that she was talking about her boyfriend she even showed me an sms that he had sent her the next morning.
Now heading back to Maggies to see whether I can repeat last night but I am worried this is ain't get any better.
Happy hunting to all in Beijing
Opticus
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[QUOTE=Gamma Ray 007]I had only a single afternoon in Beijing while transiting to Central Asia. Due to jet lag and an early morning departure I opted for an escort, Hebe from [url]http://www.sexyescortads.com/escort-146-80279/[/url]. I had emailed her a few times over a period of weeks and she agreed to be available early in the day. When I finally flew in, I called her from my hotel at 11:00 in the morning and she came right over.[/QUOTE]You were lucky. Those escort site usually are rip-offs targeted at first-time China visitors. If you paid no more than $100, then you were especially lucky. Congratulations.
I found a new centrally located BBS during one of my wanderings this week. It is on Waijiaobu Jie which is a hutong running west of Chaoyangmen NanxiaoJie. Nan is the street running north from the main railway station and the International hotel is on the north east corner of Janguomennei Dajie.
The BBS is about 5o metres in on the right ( north) side just past a refrigeration store. The young lady was attractive , mid 20's and a good body and personaity with a little English. The BBS routine is typical with a broad range of services I paid 500 RMB and was fully satisfied. I probably could have bargained down a little but 500 is OK and she was worth it. I will go back later and service should even be better the second time around.
It is fairly clean if you don't mind the tissue wipe and has a side room and lockable door. There are a couple more BBS in the area but I went to this one due to the pretty girl and her welcoming smile. I was not planning on going in but could not resist her smile and it was a good place to cool off on a hot day.
[QUOTE=Mojo888]Wangjing area, which is not far from Lido Hotel, is populated by many Koreans and to a lesser extent, Japanese people. Therefore there are many massage parlors in apartment buildings in this area to service the needs of the community. The huge complex called Wangjing New City (Wangjing Xin Cheng) is one of the biggest apartment complexes in the area and is "shopping center" full of massage opportunities. The complex is broken into areas: building names in the 300s are Area 3; in the 400s are Area 4, and so forth. One fine establishment is in Building 419, near Guangshun South Street, not far from the Starbucks and Nirvana Fitness in this area. This place is just finishing renovation now and has lots more private rooms with double beds. Excellent oil massage and hand jobs are offered in a nice friendly environment for RMB160. No, sex, at least IN HOUSE. The girls are pretty good, but you have to shop around. No. 56 is excellent! No. 22 is good too. (not sure if she is still there). After you get to know the girls, most will let you feel them up, even--depending on the chemistry you create and your charm--take their shirts off and even skirts off. Also, outcall is available and if you are a regular of one of the girls, additional services COULD be available, depending on the girl for a modest tip. Anyone have other places in the area, or favorite girls to report on?[/QUOTE]ADDITIONAL INFO:1) this place I mention is IN THE BASEMENT of Building 419. Door to massage palor is right as you get to bottom of stairs. 2) Building 419 is first building when you enter "Area 4, Gate A" (si qu A men)
ADDITIONAL MASSAGE PLACE: the next building over, Building 421 also has a massage place in the basement. (Seems like almost every building in Wang Jing Xin Cheng has a basement massage place & a place on the first floor. Many of these buildings have signage in windows with pictures of pretty girls.... Most have in-house and outcall...) It's set up like a teahouse/bar. You can sit and have a beer and chat with girls then get a massage or FS. Massage is 160, FS is 300. Girls vary and usually only 3 girls. Saw a decent one in there.
Was in Beijing and visited Maggies over this weekend.
Great to see Sammy on Monday night - man you really lit up that dance floor mate - Patrick Swayze eat your heart out.
Had 2 great Mongolian providors on succesive nights - Aagi and Belgi - RMB800 each all night - no limit to pops or positions - just great girls.
Phone numbers available to Senior Members ONLY if you want.
[QUOTE=Mojo888]ADDITIONAL INFO:1) this place I mention is IN THE BASEMENT of Building 419. Door to massage palor is right as you get to bottom of stairs. 2) Building 419 is first building when you enter "Area 4, Gate A" (si qu A men)
[/QUOTE]I just went for the first time today. A couple of additional pieces of hopefully useful information:
1) Location - go in Gate A, and immediately to your right is building 419. Don't go in the main door for the apartment building (up a couple of steps), as I did, and then try explaining to the guard what you are looking for. Instead, about 15 meters to the right of the main door is a side door (over where the bicycles are parked), and there are some steps and a ramp going down. Go down the steps, the place is immediately on the right as you get to the bottom of the stairs as Mojo888 mentioned.
2) Price - I am happy to report that for the month of July they have a special going - 20% off all prices. So the 160 kuai massage is now 130 kuai.
I had number 39 today - not bad, can't really recommend compared the glowing reports for other masseuses. She did the job, however. I will try some others next time - I imagine with the "sale" on I'll be there quite a few times in the upcoming days. I think someone else mentioned the girl at the front desk - she is certainly highly doable.
[QUOTE=Yelper]I just went for the first time today. A couple of additional pieces of hopefully useful information:
1) Location - go in Gate A, and immediately to your right is building 419. Don't go in the main door for the apartment building (up a couple of steps), as I did, and then try explaining to the guard what you are looking for. Instead, about 15 meters to the right of the main door is a side door (over where the bicycles are parked), and there are some steps and a ramp going down. Go down the steps, the place is immediately on the right as you get to the bottom of the stairs as Mojo888 mentioned.
2) Price - I am happy to report that for the month of July they have a special going - 20% off all prices. So the 160 kuai massage is now 130 kuai.
I had number 39 today - not bad, can't really recommend compared the glowing reports for other masseuses. She did the job, however. I will try some others next time - I imagine with the "sale" on I'll be there quite a few times in the upcoming days. I think someone else mentioned the girl at the front desk - she is certainly highly doable.[/QUOTE]A few additional Wang Jing Xin Cheng Exploration Tips: 1) As YELPER mentioned, all the basement operations are easy to access since you don't have to go past a guard--direct access from the outside, separate stairs 2) don't be afraid of the guards! They are helpful and used to guiding people to these massage places. They are fine about letting foreigners in to the first floor massage places. For some, you need to input room code to enter the building (for Room 101, the input code would be 0101). The guards will normally help you, our just tail someone else going in the building.
Is the massage place behind the Hilton ok?
FS? Saw an old report but nothing recent.
[QUOTE=Big Tom]Is the massage place behind the Hilton ok?
FS? Saw an old report but nothing recent.[/QUOTE]
The one right next to where the lobby entrance was before the rebuild? I was there once. Got NS as in "No Service."
This place sounded like my cup of tea. Indeed, the service was impeccable---although the looks of the girls seemed variable. Also, the price mentioned before (900) is not right. I speak excellent Mandarin and tried very hard to bargain but the lowest price available (including everything, door fee, room fee, etc.) was 1152 (supposedly discounted from 1250). There is another option for 1550 which includes oral entertainments while kneeling on a stool designed for the purpose and a strip dance. Seemed gimmicky to me though and you get the whole program for the lower price minus the stool and the dance anyway. Can't afford this place more than once in a blue moon, but it was nice. Similar services are available in other saunas too, and the facilities here were just so-so---not incredible. Can't complain about anything though.
[QUOTE=Mojo888][QUOTE=Zhuren]A foolproof way to get there is to approach it from the SOUTH: follow third-ring road to YANG QIAO and turn right on MAJIABAO Rd and proceed to No. 8 MAJIABAO RD. Looking at your map, south third ring road is not shown, but MAJIABAO RD is shown (though misspelled as MAJIABOA RD). It's just south of YONGDINGMEN XIBINHE RD (which runs east-west) and MAJIABAO RD is the continuation of TAIPING ST (next to TAORANTING PARK) when it goes south of YONGDINGMEN XIBINHE RD. [also, MAJIABAO RD is just east of BEIJING SOUTH STATION in your map] In my original instructions I was wrong to mention that 2nd Ring road is just north of MAJIABAO RD. Also, I see from your map, the road YONGDINGMEN NEI (which runs and-S and is west of Tiantan Park is called QIANMEN in other maps.
Hope you find it. Also note that not speaking Chinese is no big deal here. They know what you want and just go with the flow. Also, many if not all rooms have showers/bathrooms. A trend the ladies were using last time I was there was to use fizzing/hot/popping candy in their mouths while doing blow jobs.[/QUOTE]
Someone in Europe told me Tea Houses in China offer what BBSs offer. Is this correct? I am in China and wants to explore Tea Houses that is not very well covered on this forum. Where should I start from? Any idea/address in Chinese characters!
Wangjing New City is an endless resource of reasonably priced mongering possibilities. Here's two places that I've explored many times, with good success. They are close to the gate called Area 3, North Gate (san qu, bei men). Both are FS places that pose as normal massage palors. They do have normal foot massage setups as you walk in and do offer that service, but also offer more.
Prices: Both places below are RMB300 for FS. The girls vary from average to good. I've found some cute nubile gems with great attitudes and service many times. You have to just look and if you don't find something that suits your fancy, go on to the next place. The selection changes frequently at each place.
No. 1: in Building 323, Room 105. (first floor). What's cool about this place (and it's not the only one like this in the area) is that for FS customers, they take you up to the 13th (? ) floor to a normal apartment and you have a private room with adjacent shower all to yourself. Usually about 8 girls to choose from. Occassionally there could be other occupants in other rooms in the apartment. Of course you can shower before/after.
No. 2: Building 325, Room 102. Very close to above place. Unlike most buildings in this area, there are two main entrances to this building. Go in the entrance on the LEFT--you'll know you are at the correct entrance if you see a basement stairs with a sign "Cheese cake cafe". From lobby, go to right and enter door. Need to input code. Guard will gladly do so for you. There are 2 massage places at end of the hall. The place you want is on the right (Rm 102). At this place, you have a private bedroom, but it is on the same floor as the massage place. Good, friendly managment. Usually about 4 or 5 girls.
Unless they are scam, they can be place for fun.
Just read this [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=518784&postcount=4543[/url]
[QUOTE=Great Wall]Someone in Europe told me Tea Houses in China offer what BBSs offer. Is this correct? I am in China and wants to explore Tea Houses that is not very well covered on this forum. Where should I start from? Any idea/address in Chinese characters![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Maxmaxmax]This place sounded like my cup of tea. Indeed, the service was impeccable---although the looks of the girls seemed variable. Also, the price mentioned before (900) is not right. I speak excellent Mandarin and tried very hard to bargain but the lowest price available (including everything, door fee, room fee, etc.) was 1152 (supposedly discounted from 1250). There is another option for 1550 which includes oral entertainments while kneeling on a stool designed for the purpose and a strip dance. Seemed gimmicky to me though and you get the whole program for the lower price minus the stool and the dance anyway. Can't afford this place more than once in a blue moon, but it was nice. Similar services are available in other saunas too, and the facilities here were just so-so---not incredible. Can't complain about anything though.
[QUOTE=Mojo888][/QUOTE]Wow. Can't believe that price! It's been 6-8+ months since I've been there. When I first started going several years ago, it was RMB700. They renovated the place and then raised the basic price to RMB900.But the place was always full at night even with the price hike, so I guess they figure they might as well charge even more...
At these prices, I would insist on seeing the line up of girls and opt out if you don't see anything you are thrilled about. Problem is, at night (after 9), sometimes you have to wait for girls, so selection is not always ideal. Before, they used to have a range of girls, from stunning to so-so. The manager would always let me select from a lineup.
Best time to go for best girl selection is daytime/early evening (before 8 is ideal). Also, surprisingly, weekend nights are less crowded than weekdays nights.(Most Chinese men can pretend to be at business entertainment events during the week, but are with the family on weekends....)
I've been following the thread a bit. Noticed that the average M's price seems to be creeping into the 8-- range?? Hmmm, I've never left more than 5-6 for a nice gift and been pleasantly rewarded in exchange (lt). Is this a firming trend by the girls - or are you guys softening up on the prices??? I can understand the newbies getting over enthusiastic , but are you more experienced brothers having to pay out these premiums??
My experience has been that even 1 or 2 nights of 5-6 will generally result in even lower requirements (or just plain free) in subsequent outings. I never do ST or early takeaways - always LT and after 2am - so maybe that's the difference..
Feedback??
First report; I've been lurking and conducting research, thanks to all of your advice. I hope to post more detailed info as I learn, but I've already noticed something that may help.
I, too, was pressured into buying silk pajamas at ChungXiu Sauna before I knew anything. Now I just ignore the staff and get my own. As you exit the shower/sauna area heading back into the locker room, there is a glass front cabinet immediately to your right, containing all of the complimentary, yellow pajamas. They often cover it with a towel so that you don't see it. Just reach in and grab yourself a pair. At that point, the staff already knows that you know the score and they won't say a word.
Other than that little scam, I love the place. 817 and 823 are good to me. I saw a petite beauty in the hall last time but didn't get her number. I've got to try that!
Though I can't confirm I suspect they offer FS as well. There is a massage in the range of 359 or so (don't remember) that includes FS. Though they don't speak English they tried to explain using sign language.
Since I was not sure I would get I went in for 298 massage. It was inclusive of a nice HJ but she didn't undress.
Total damage was 298+48+60.
[QUOTE=sniffer]Sammy:
Thank you for a nice and detailed report. Is this sauna you were referring to the one at corner turning off from Jiu Xian Qiao Road, just across from the Da Zhong Appliance Shop? I think that one is called "Shi Yi" ( 世一 ), and they have a big sign saying the "bath charge" is RMB 48. The place does look more upscale from the outside than what you described. Well, I guess you really can judge a book by its cover.
I've gone past there so many time and always wondered what kind of service they provide. I will probably give that a try in the next few days.
Do they allow you choices of girls? And do they have a large selection?
Thanks!
Sniffer[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mojo888]Wangjing New City is an endless resource of reasonably priced mongering possibilities. Here's two places that I've explored many times, with good success. They are close to the gate called Area 3, North Gate (san qu, bei men). Both are FS places that pose as normal massage palors. They do have normal foot massage setups as you walk in and do offer that service, but also offer more.
Prices: Both places below are RMB300 for FS. The girls vary from average to good. I've found some cute nubile gems with great attitudes and service many times. You have to just look and if you don't find something that suits your fancy, go on to the next place. The selection changes frequently at each place.
No. 1: in Building 323, Room 105. (first floor). What's cool about this place (and it's not the only one like this in the area) is that for FS customers, they take you up to the 13th (? ) floor to a normal apartment and you have a private room with adjacent shower all to yourself. Usually about 8 girls to choose from. Occassionally there could be other occupants in other rooms in the apartment. Of course you can shower before/after.[/QUOTE]
Quality is very poor here.
Beware of this scam in Biejing. my experience happened at Wangfujing walking street. here it goes.
I was walking early afternoon when I was approached by this reasonably beautifull young girl tall with big boobs. She said do you speak english. I said yes. She said in effect she wants to learn more english and she is going to school to learn english and she wants to practice with a foreigner. I said ok. To get acqainted better I told her to eat lunch with me. She tried to take me to a tea house but I did not like the look of it and did not feel safe. So I said I wanted to go to KFC to which she agreed. We talked for an hour about lot of things exchanged phone numbers and parted. So far so good.
In the evening she called me and asked me to meet her at KFC. When I went she introduced me to her male "friend" saying he is her classmate. She then insisted we go to a bar to have a drink. In the bar both of them order a bottle of wine and I stuck with jack daniels. My mistake was not looking at the menu. They also ordered a fruit platter.
To cut the long story short when the bill came it was 1600 RMB. All this time she behaved like My GF kissing touching etc. I asked the waiter why the bill was so high. He showed me the menu and for a bootle of Chinese wine it was more than $100 US. What can I do. I paid the bill. I was furious at myself for falling into this scam. I left them saying i had a meeting.
Next day she called me again and wanted to drink wine. i had already wised up. I said ok just you and me go for drinks. She said her friend wants to come also. I firmly said no. So I met her . She was alone. After walking few steps she got a call. She said her friend wanted to give her a book and she has to wait for him. Very soon he was there and he insisted he wants to come with us too. I said no. We started walking again in the direction of same bar, to which I said I am going to take you to a better bar. In spite of her objection I took her to a bar restaurent. She did not want to order the wine anymore. So we had dinner and parted. Later I called her and told her I know all her scams and if she wants to be my friend she has to quit scamming and be my friend. She apologised profusely and became my friend . We went to forbidden city, great wall etc together. I still could not get her into bed because she said she is a virgin and seventeen years old. She is trying make money during the summer time doing this scam.
Just thought I would warn fellow mongers
Hi guys, I post a lot in the HK forum but this will be my first experience in Beijing. I've tried to RTFF, but I couldn't find quite what I wanted and I know nothing about Beijing. I speak Cantonese but very limited Mandarin.
I suddenly learned this evening that I'll be in Beijing Monday night only, staying at the Hilton. I'd like to find a place where I can get incall FS there; I don't want to bring the girl back to my hotel and the nosy eyes of my colleagues. The Hilton's bar is obviously out.
If anyone could give me easy directions, I'd be much obliged!
[QUOTE=Sammon]Beware of this scam in Biejing. my experience happened at Wangfujing walking street. here it goes.
I was walking early afternoon when I was approached by this reasonably beautifull young girl tall with big boobs. She said do you speak english. I said yes. She said in effect she wants to learn more english and she is going to school to learn english and she wants to practice with a foreigner. I said ok. To get acqainted better I told her to eat lunch with me. She tried to take me to a tea house but I did not like the look of it and did not feel safe. So I said I wanted to go to KFC to which she agreed. We talked for an hour about lot of things exchanged phone numbers and parted. So far so good.
In the evening she called me and asked me to meet her at KFC. When I went she introduced me to her male "friend" saying he is her classmate. She then insisted we go to a bar to have a drink. In the bar both of them order a bottle of wine and I stuck with jack daniels. My mistake was not looking at the menu. They also ordered a fruit platter.
To cut the long story short when the bill came it was 1600 RMB. All this time she behaved like My GF kissing touching etc. I asked the waiter why the bill was so high. He showed me the menu and for a bootle of Chinese wine it was more than $100 US. What can I do. I paid the bill. I was furious at myself for falling into this scam. I left them saying i had a meeting.
Next day she called me again and wanted to drink wine. i had already wised up. I said ok just you and me go for drinks. She said her friend wants to come also. I firmly said no. So I met her . She was alone. After walking few steps she got a call. She said her friend wanted to give her a book and she has to wait for him. Very soon he was there and he insisted he wants to come with us too. I said no. We started walking again in the direction of same bar, to which I said I am going to take you to a better bar. In spite of her objection I took her to a bar restaurent. She did not want to order the wine anymore. So we had dinner and parted. Later I called her and told her I know all her scams and if she wants to be my friend she has to quit scamming and be my friend. She apologised profusely and became my friend . We went to forbidden city, great wall etc together. I still could not get her into bed because she said she is a virgin and seventeen years old. She is trying make money during the summer time doing this scam.
Just thought I would warn fellow mongers[/QUOTE]
Thanks, Sammon. From reading the forum, this seems like another variation on a common theme, and the advice of the senior members applies: don't go with anyone, anyplace of their choosing. Art students, etc... you name it. You set the rules. This is particularly important for those of us who don't speak the language in any country. I don't remember if I've done my "safety" cliffnotes, yet. I meant to, there is a wealth of good information here.
I've lined up 2 young ladies (rather, they claim to be young ladies) on the web, one looking for language exchange, the other which seems more like an independent or non-pro (let's not quibble over these terms, she may be a complete pro of course) just looking for a little something on the side of her regular job. I plan to meet them in the hotel bar, or a starbucks, KFC, whatever. Nothing is free. Even if they seem like "freebies" you still pay one way or another, and you need to control it and manage the risk or exposure. If I order a bottle of wine with my GF in the US, I look at the price. If I'm eating out with an SP in the US, I look at the price. If I can't see the price in China, I'm gonna ask, dammit, before I order. If that offends someone in the restaurant, I'll take my business elsewhere. If that offends the girl, then she is probably scamming me. If she needs money, I'm happy to pay for what I want. If she's 17 and a virgin and just wants sightseeing, well, that isn't my cup of tea. Each to his own.
I think more than a few mongers also advised mongering sober in Beijing, particularly for lowei without Chinese skills (is "without Chinese skills" a necessary qualification, or is that implied by "lowei"?). As much as I love a good drink, I think this is excellent advice.
NBG
1) I checked out the Saunas in Maijiabao Rd and I finally found it.
Tried the Sauna, manicure and a Fullbody massage (really proffessional) and later the extraservice. I talked to the manager (mike) about the prices because they only have a pricelist in Hansi. He told me that the Usual (fire&ice, catbath; BJ, FS) for 70min. Is about 1280 Y. Thats quite expensive. But I tried a nice girl from Sichuan an she was worth the money. Cute, friendly. Lovely. No good massage but. Very sensitive. End up with rd about 1600 Y for 5 hours.
2) Didn't find the SaunaPlace near 4th ring road. And decided to go to Chunxiulu for the regular program. 80 min. FS- Nr. 802. A little bit to slim but with a nice smile. Very loud. During the intercourse. I gave DATTY and she was really interesstent in my butt. So I had 2 nice hours there for normal price (with the normal pyama. No money) 928 Y.
Fellow mongers,
I took a mongolian out of Maggie's last night. When I tried to take her picture, she refused because she saw her friend naked on this site. Apparently she reads this site regularly and I can only assume her friends know as well. Just want to pass along the information.
Best,
Rast
[QUOTE=Soujourn]I've been following the thread a bit. Noticed that the average M's price seems to be creeping into the 8-- range?? Hmmm, I've never left more than 5-6 for a nice gift and been pleasantly rewarded in exchange (lt). Is this a firming trend by the girls - or are you guys softening up on the prices??? I can understand the newbies getting over enthusiastic , but are you more experienced brothers having to pay out these premiums??
My experience has been that even 1 or 2 nights of 5-6 will generally result in even lower requirements (or just plain free) in subsequent outings. I never do ST or early takeaways - always LT and after 2am - so maybe that's the difference..
Feedback??[/QUOTE]
800 is the rack rate. The rest depends on your negotiation skills and, as you have noticed, the time of the night.
On a slow night, at 2 or 3am the girls get desperate and often are drunk. At that point, any money made is better than none at all.
After you have established a repeat business relationship, price often isn't even discussed. I pay the maiden in the morning, and she takes it with that "how-much-did-you-give-me-this-time" look on her face.
Ever since I've known St. Margaret's (and I've known it back when it was behind the Worker's Stadium,) 800 was the asking price, because back when, 800RMB equalled 100 USD. If you want to do a little currency arbitrage, pay the girl $100, and you get her for around 760 ...
Hi all,
I know about the Chunxiu Lu Sauna, but I am wondering if in the same area there are some massage parlors similar to what can be found in Wangjing. I've noticed some places (foot and body massage), but never had a chance to try. Anybody ?
BTW, I read the f..king forum ;-)
Thanks,
Guits
[QUOTE=Mojo888]Re this first sauna I mention, it is definitely open: start from Sanlitun / Zhaolong hotel and head east ( Gongtibei rd/ Nongzhanguan rd); after you pass 4th ring road on the road make right on second traffic light (not counting one crossing light). You will see a home inn on the left after you make the turn. Go to second small retail cluster on the left. It has a hair salon / restaurant / sauna. Building no. Is "114" and it is just before the first intersection and a kfc.
I was just at this place the other day, and the problem in finding it is they always have the lobby lights on dim and it looks like it is closed. But it is very much open. A sichuan girl (no. 20) is amazing. Again, rmb300 for oil massage with breast massage. Moderately nice place, clean and decent nice overall. Friendly service.[/QUOTE]
This place seems to be total rip-off. They charged 349 Y and what I got in return was a HJ and half an hour of just light touching in the name of massage. Girl # 6 was just average and her skills in massage was absolutely nil.
They made a mistake (on upside) while totaling the bill and corrected after a lot of hassles and also while returning the change they made a mistake (on downside).
WangJing MP is by far the best solution cost wise.
[QUOTE=Slacker80]Jin Hai An Shang Wu Hui Guan -- 金海岸商务会馆
Went there a bit before the may holidays. As this was the first sauna I've been to. I have no comparision. But I thought the place was relatively clean but rather a bit small. The sauna is at least 2 floors. Checked in. Showered. Went up. Ordered the 600 service. That included BJ and fs. The girl asked me if I wanted a BBBJ at no extra charge. But I declined. Don't know if thats offered to everyone. But hey. I like to be safe. As reported before. There is a 800 service. But that only includes getting oiled down and having your own hole played with on top of the 600 service. I heard there was a 1000 service. But I have no idea what that throws in. As I mentioned earlier the place isn't that big. And so they only have around 10 girls to choose from. At any given day they have around 7-8ppl to choose from. They do let you choose who you want but the choices arent many. Though there are pretty good looking for the most part. Which brings me to my question. Which sauna in beijing is relatively bigger with a more diverse pool of ladies to choose from? I don't like the whole we'll just send some random chick to your room. And you can keep turning them down until you find the right one. That wastes a lot of time.[/QUOTE]
I found a guy who could speak broken English. He told me they have a normal massage that costs 300 and all inclusive package for 1000. There was no choice in-between as you mentioned.
I went to the Wangjing 419 MP today. It's all that everyone says it is. I got #22 and as someone else has said, she's good. I do wish they had a shower though. The wipe down afterwards just doesn't do it for me. Also, I asked for the 160 yuan massage but when I went to pay, they only charged me 130. Don't know why.
It's really easy to find. Just get off at the subway Wangjing west subway stop. The bridge back over has a left and right exit. Take the left and just walk straight on that road. Eventually you will reach an intersection with a big nautilus like sculpture on it. The Starbucks is also on that intersection. Just cross that intersection and it will be on your right. Go down the ramp to the right of the guard and it's the first door on your right. It's just a regular massage place. You pass all these old ladies getting foot massages.
[QUOTE=JustGotBack]Also, I asked for the 160 yuan massage but when I went to pay, they only charged me 130. Don't know why.[/QUOTE]
During July month, 20% discount is on offer.
I also went to Wangjing 419. They are having a 20% discount so that's why you got a different price. I can also attest to the great service of #22. She's a nice girl. I think I should have tipped her, but I felt shy at the counter.
They live and work there, barely seeing the sun. She told me that it would make her day just to get something from outside because their 30 minute breaks barely suffices them time to buy treats for themselves from a local store.
I am looking for a girl for a couple of hours. I cannot seem to find a nice place for a pickup, any suggestions. Or can any girls contact me. At holiday inn temple of heaven. Or any contact info sent to me. I like around the age of 18-20.
I arrived late at the Hilton and when I finished prepping for all my meetings over the next few days I ordered a massage. I got my order in just in time as supposedly they close at 1 AM. Price listed is 200 for 45 min, 350 for 90 min. Some other massages are on offer such as oil, detoxifying and foot.
I asked for the 45 min for 200 as I need some sleep. Answered the door in the bathrobe. The girl was ok, not that hot but still young and relatively fresh looking. She immediately tried to upsell me to the longer massage and the oil massage. I politely refused. Massage was decent but nothing to write home about.
After she turned me over she pointed to my dick and said, I massage here, you give me tips. I said how much? She said you tell me. I said it depends on how much we can do together. So I went down the list. Make love? No. You kiss it (I made a BJ motion with my head)? No. Only massage. Okay. I kiss you there? No. I touch you there? No. You take off any clothes? No.
So we had established the menu, which she was firm about. (She said she had never made love. I doubted that, but neither of us knew enough of the other's language to argue. And plus, maybe she really is a good girl who just needs money and earns it giving HJs to businessmen.) Then we talked price. She wanted 1000. I told her that was nuts. I said I happen to know you can make love for less than that. She said no, maybe in Guangzhou yes, but this is Beijing, capital of China, and it's very expensive here. I said I'm not stupid. She said 1000, you can touch me there. I said with your clothes off? No. Oh come ON. She offered 500. I said still too much. She said it's big discount! Normally massage there 1000! I said better just finish up the regular massage. She relented and settled for 300.
I agreed and she got the oil out and did start out nice and slow and built it up gradually over about 15 minutes, I have to give her credit for that. She did laugh while I was coming however, which didn't really affect anything but I thought was not exactly a nice touch.
So what happened was about what I expected to happen. I hope someone can answer my earlier post, I'll be freer Monday night and I would really like to find some incall FS that's easy to reach. Much appreciated guys.
I am looking for some help looking in beijing. I am in Holiday Inn. Can anyone tell me how to get some fun.
[QUOTE=Richard Chan]I am looking for some help looking in beijing. I am in Holiday Inn. Can anyone tell me how to get some fun.[/QUOTE]
I suggest you RTFF and do a search.
Look up Maggie's for a start.
I see you are staying in Shanghai as well, I suggest you RTFF for Shanghai as well.
Everything you need is already posted.
MAB
The WangJing MP certainly is attracting more and more ISGers these days. I havent visited for probably over 1 year now. I cant believe theyre actually reducing the price and not increasing it! Make the most of it. Remember, the thing I always liked best about this place, is it's open 24hrs. I used to rock up at 2-3am in the morning, get the massage+HJ, sleep until 8-9am then pay the same rate, and go home.
Sid
[QUOTE=Worm]Thanks Sid, If I had putdown what I actually paid you know I would have gotten twice as many comments bitching about how we are ruining the market.
I am not going to name places, because the man does read things like this. But one was a misspelled one of a kind and the other sounded like a place to take your wife on easter. Figure it out yourself.
I would like to thank WORM for bringing these places to my atention. The Jianwei Soho places are very close to home and sure beats treking off to some sauna where you have to bargain like heck for what could be minimal service. These places offer a clean, safe and discrete incall option and are great for day and evening services.
I have been twice to the misspelled one and like Worm was sent to a second building. The lady answering the phone speaks English and can confirm location. The apartment was very clean and I was able to have long warm showers both before and after. The girls were attractive and provided excellent service which could improve if you get along well with the lady. Both times I was there for about 90 minutes and was not rushed.
Like Worm I am not going to name places or be specific on prices as these places are also legit spas and I don't want to cause them trouble. Let's just say that the overall cost is worth it for quality and that the prices are comparable to what you would pay in a high end massage place like Tianlun. Look in the back of That's Beijing or City Weekend for contact info. Being in these magazines show that they welcome foreign business.
What is RTFF?
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[QUOTE=Ontario Boy][QUOTE=Worm]Thanks Sid, If I had putdown what I actually paid you know I would have gotten twice as many comments bitching about how we are ruining the market.
I am not going to name places, because the man does read things like this. But one was a misspelled one of a kind and the other sounded like a place to take your wife on easter. Figure it out yourself.
I would like to thank WORM for bringing these places to my atention. The Jianwei Soho places are very close to home and sure beats treking off to some sauna where you have to bargain like heck for what could be minimal service. These places offer a clean, safe and discrete incall option and are great for day and evening services.
I have been twice to the misspelled one and like Worm was sent to a second building. The lady answering the phone speaks English and can confirm location. The apartment was very clean and I was able to have long warm showers both before and after. The girls were attractive and provided excellent service which could improve if you get along well with the lady. Both times I was there for about 90 minutes and was not rushed.
Like Worm I am not going to name places or be specific on prices as these places are also legit spas and I don't want to cause them trouble. Let's just say that the overall cost is worth it for quality and that the prices are comparable to what you would pay in a high end massage place like Tianlun. Look in the back of That's Beijing or City Weekend for contact info. Being in these magazines show that they welcome foreign business.[/QUOTE]
This has my nomination for the most obtuse post in the last two weeks.
Anyone heard of a girl named ai. Is it true that Chinese girls in there cannot go out. And only mongolian girls can go out.
It is 2:05AM standard Maggie’s time and I am calling it a night after this report. I am in my hotel room. She just left after I called hotel security but they haven’t shown up yet. She is a Pig-pick-up by the name of Lilly. I sat down next to her at about 11PM after my business obligations were met for the evening. Petite perfect little Chinese body with a very average face. I was earnestly dismissive in my tone when asking her for a price as I was self-convinced that I was going to go to bed early and alone and that I was only at the Pig for some time killing and some drinks. I believed that this was the reason that when I asked her what her price was and she replied 1000, I gave only a deep shrug and took a deep drink of Guinness. Quickly (too quickly), her response was "tonight, for you, only 600". I did not reply directly but offered her a drink. After some choppy Engrish conversation about her upbringing in Shanghai and some stories about her drunken mother, I announced that we would leave after the current drink. We taxied back in a normal 12AM laowei-with-a-Chinese-girl kind of way.
She showered while I made tea. Then I showered and went to lie on the bed. In good spirit and totally unencouraged, she proceeded to do a stunning catbath routine from head to toe using just a sip or two of the tea that I had made. My thought was that since she came from Shanghai, which from my experience might just be the catbath capitol of the universe, perhaps the other girls of the city ran her off in jealousy due to her unapproachable technique. The catbath was such that I sincerely regretted the two or so mouth kisses that we had exchanged during the taxi ride over. I also thought, "repeat tomorrow" but with no kissing ever again.
After a lot of this combined with some digital play on my part, I reached over for the condom that she took briefly, and examined and pronounced "OK". I applied said condom and proceeded accordingly. In a few short moments, I was on my way to the bathroom for the clean up procedure.
More massaging occurred along with talk about tomorrow’s repeat and how I would recommend her to friends (you slugs, BTW).
It was time to go as everything had been said and done. I made a withdrawal from the room safe and explained that I was quite satisfied and happy to give her the 600 plus a 100 tip plus 50 for the taxi.
Her reply was "no no no" as she found a pen and paper to explain that 600 was for the massage and 1000 for the "makelove". Oh for Christ sake! I tried to kick her out verbally, then as she broke into hysterical tears and intelligible screaming, I even put her purse and the cash on the floor of the hallway out side the door. She would not budge and the volume was not going down. Finally, I picked up the phone and asked for security. Somehow she left. Gracias a mi dios!
I have little experience in Beijing and was initially happy that my travel schedule was adjusted to allow for an encumbered Friday through Sunday weekend to explore the city before some business obligations for the early part of the week. My experiences this past weekend include being harangued by touts at the Forbidden City as I baked in the smoggy sunny heat. I fell for the "tea house scam" twice, yes twice. But to my credit, I only graciously paid the bill once. But I am getting text messaged from the second girl asking when I will pay her the money that I owe her as she had to pay the tea house (the absolute nerve of this 20 year old girl! ). My Beijing experiences also include a short time with a Mongolian girl from Maggie’s who insisted on telling me how disgusted she was that she had to be with me but that she needed the money and had no choice. Another night at Maggie’s this weekend, I found myself in a nightmarish scenario of being horny in a crowded Maggie’s with at least 10+ unattached girls and a Chinese hostess/guide to assist and by God I swear not one was doable by my standards. Not one. Not one and I drink heavy, gentle reader. My drinking draws attention from bartenders and waitresses in most locations that are not downtown Detroit. I can "comp-pa" (SP? ) the Mountai with any Chinese bloke all night, period. Irish and Ukraine heritage combined into a True American Mutt. ‘Nuff said.
Lest you condemn me back onto the "turnip truck", I would like to say that I have been going to the developing world as part of my job for about four years. I have spent over 30 weeks in China in small towns and major cities. I have experience in at least a dozen countries. And probably too many hours of my life have been spent right here, RTFF.
Perhaps I have been so blessed with my past experiences that this rough patch is being blown out of proportion. But Beijing is kicking my ass this time!
I just want some sympathy or to be told to "shut up and grow a pair". Feel free to comment. BTW, I feel better already. Sometimes you eat the bear, sometimes the bear eats you.
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[QUOTE=Ontario Boy]I am not going to name places, because the man does read things like this... Like Worm I am not going to name places or be specific on prices as these places are also legit spas and I don't want to cause them trouble.[/QUOTE]
Do you really think "the man" doesn't know about these places? Gimme a break. Who do you think they have to bribe to stay in business? I even saw a PSB dude once in one of the MPs while he was collecting "protection money." I was in one of the rooms, and my girl made me get dressed while we waited in our room for him to leave. Afterwards, one of my girlfriends, who had worked as a massage parlor girl, stayed in touch with a PSB officer for advice and protection after she quit her job.
For other reasons, though, I agree that it's best if obliging senior members PM'ed each other for the exact contact info. I'd be happy to continuing giving out what knowledge I have to other senior members as a way of paying back ISG for helping me along. I wouldn't want all the lurkers, though, who probably greatly outnumber contributing members, flooding these places and ruining it for the rest of us.
Happy mongering!
RTFF more closely. I wrote a review on the BBSes along Chunxiu Lu, focusing specifically on getting FS. However, they all offer HJ. Good luck!
[QUOTE=Guits]Hi all,
I know about the Chunxiu Lu Sauna, but I am wondering if in the same area there are some massage parlors similar to what can be found in Wangjing. I've noticed some places (foot and body massage), but never had a chance to try. Anybody ?
BTW, I read the f..king forum ;-)
Thanks,
Guits[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Xiangjiao]Do you really think "the man" doesn't know about these places? Gimme a break. Who do you think they have to bribe to stay in business?
The quote you cite is from Worm's original post, it is not mine.
Your second comment is valid I hate to see places either swarmed by lurkers or raided and that is why I try to be a little "obtuse" as Zhuren notes in another post. My purpose was to confirm the existence and quality of the places mentionned in the earlier reports. I know of at least three examples in Canada where places, reviewed on this board, were raided the very next day so while I am in China now I am still reluctant to be too specific. At least it is better then not posting at all.
Re PM's between Senior members- I agree 100%. It would be great if it happened in reality. I sent 2 PM's to Worm first ( June 26) requesting some additional info and the second ( July 7) to report my findings and there is no indication that he has read them to date Granted he may not have access to the Board.
[QUOTE=Verde99]I just want some sympathy.[/QUOTE]Oh well, that's not a big deal in your case. I really like the style you write. In specific ...
[QUOTE=Verde99]- It is 2:05AM standard Maggie’s time ...
- We taxied back in a normal 12AM laowei-with-a-Chinese-girl kind of way ...
- Not one. Not one and I drink heavy[/QUOTE]Were particularly witty, just to mention a few. Small consolence, but while you maybe had a lousy day in Beijing your report at least made me chuckle a couple of times today.
So just keep up the good work, hope to read more from you written with the same kind of wit.
[QUOTE=Verde99]Sometimes you eat the bear, sometimes the bear eats you.[/QUOTE]Dude: "I like your style."
[QUOTE=Richard Chan]Anyone heard of a girl named ai. Is it true that Chinese girls in there cannot go out. And only mongolian girls can go out.[/QUOTE]
Richard your posts are a waste of bandwidth. 6 posts,,,,,, one asking about Ai, one asking what is RTFF and four asking for girls.
Into the ignore bin for you.
ES
I am sure people are new to this area. Not like you. So bear with us. If you don't mind. Sheesh
just a quick note about novotel xiang due to a search on this thread where some questions were asked in the past.
overall, this is a good deal at $70ish usd in beijing booked through orbitz the day before arrival.
good location for the subway at 50m to the station entrance.
close to major shopping street and forbidden city.
rooms are adequate with very reliable and fast internet. actually best speed i have had in a hotel for a while at a cost of 80 per day unlimited. also wifi in the bar area.
taxi:
maggie’s 15rmb
pig 35rmb
silk rd 11rmb
zero problems with guests at any time. tested day after day as late as 2 am. the doorman staff is helpful.
has ktv which i tried to check out upon my very late arrival at 2am. received negative report from a turkish guy in the elevator about cost. then the manager of the ktv told me that they were closed but walked me back upstairs to the hair salon (look for checkered pole). i was offered massage by a 6/10 for 300 and oral for 1300 more. did not partake for obvious reasons. the ktv manager did tell me that at earlier hours, the have 12 girls to choose from. but i wanted to explore the beijing landmarks like the pig and maggie’s so no further research was done.
i did have an unusual problem with the food in the buffet restaurant. i ate two breakfasts and one dinner there and every bite of every cooked food item, from fried eggs to bacon to veggies just did not taste right. i am not one to have high expectations about hotel buffets. some are ok and some are better and they all just serve a basic purpose. but there is a problem here with ingredient selection or maybe the soap that they use in the kitchen is causing a problem. i do not know. strange really.
but there is a japanese restaurant on the second floor that was surprisingly good. order the buffet and it is menu based. order, eat, and order some more. all small plates of hot and cold dishes and all just well done. there is one buffet option for 160 rmb which includes all you can drink beer or saki. this can be a real value for some. of course you can order booze from the bar ala carte. i had a lunch and a dinner there and was happy with both. service is better at 6pm than when they get busy at about 7pm.
be aware that there is another novotel only a few blocks away that this can cause confusion with drivers.
[QUOTE=Verde99]Sometimes you eat the bear, sometimes the bear eats you.
[/QUOTE]
That some kinda Eastern thing? :)
Seriously though, sorry for your run of luck. It'll pick up.
hey guys,
well thanks to the one guy who pmed me trying to help. are there no incall places in the vicinity of the hilton?
anyway, last night, my colleagues having called it a night earlier than i expected, and knowing that i'd therefore be safe, i ventured down the the hilton's bar. sitting at a table right in front of the door was a decent girl who gave me the look. i smiled back and entered the bar, but didn't see anything special. so back outside, and she asked me if i wanted a massage. i sat. sure, how much? she used her mobile to quote me 1000. i typed back 500. after a couple rounds of this we settled on 700. okay.
then i remembered i had no condoms. there were some in the hotel's minibar, but then they'd show up on the bill, which my company would see. so that was out. i told her i'd be right back. i went down to the hotel shop which amazingly was still open and two girls were working there. their toiletry items were just thrown in a drawer. but the condoms were a well-known brand and wrapped, so i figured okay. but nothing had a price tag. how much? 100. wtf? i said, that's crazy. she said, yes it's expensive but in a hotel... yes, well judging by the price of everything else there she was right. but still the ones in the minibar were only 35. what was i going to do? i paid it and headed back to the bar. saw the girls giggling as i left--maybe because they were thinking about what the golden-haired westerner in a suit might be needing the condoms for, but probably because they ripped off the laowei. fucking cunts.
so back to the bar, she was still there waiting. i told her my room number and told her to follow me after 5 minutes. her name is lisa or lit-ze, couldn't quite get it. she is half chinese and half russian. i could tell right away she was mixed. she was north of 30, but not by too much. she looked her age but her face was not bad at all, and it didn't show in her body at all. her tits were very chinese in shape and nipple type, but substantially larger, like a typical russian woman. her pussy lips looked western but her bush was chinese looking. very interesting.
we showered, then moved to the bed. she played with my dick for a while and rubbed her tits on it and on me. i daty and she came (yes, really). then on with the condom for a quick bj and then i mounted her. spent a while on top, went to doggie, then her on top, then back to doggie, then corkscrew, then back to mish, where i came. i like to switch positions and i usually go for 20-30 minutes, so i get hurried probably more than other guys. but not a peep from her. after i came she told me i was "number one." i guess that ties me for first place with the dozens of other guys she's called "number one." but it was a nice touch.
after another shower, she got a call on her mobile and sat on my bed for like 10 minutes. hey i wanna go to bed already. i let her know she needed to wrap it up and she did. i paid her. then she asked if she could have some chocolates from the minibar. i said no, sorry, very expensive. (i just paid you 700, go get your own friggin chocolates.)
anyway a bit pricey compared to what i am used to in hk but not at all a bad experience. worth it for you other guys to try out.
[QUOTE=Richard Chan]I am sure people are new to this area. Not like you. So bear with us. If you don't mind. Sheesh[/QUOTE]
Richard Chan,
A small bit of advice.
If you do your homework first by RTFF, and ask thoughtful questions, you will get a lot more information. People will actually HELP you and freely volunteer information, but only if you show you did some homework first.
Nobody on this board likes to offer help to lazy ass bastards. We all put in a lot of effort and spend a lot of money on our little hobby.
Also, most questions are answered by searching first. I recommend you do this as well. All the Seniors did this when they were newbies.
MAB
[QUOTE=Verde99] But Beijing is kicking my ass this time!
I just want some sympathy or to be told to "shut up and grow a pair". Feel free to comment. BTW, I feel better already. Sometimes you eat the bear, sometimes the bear eats you.
- Beautifully written Verde! You have summed up the totality of Beijing in a wonderful and funny way. You certainly deserve a Senior membership based on this post alone.
Yeah Beijing gets to everyone and that is it's charm as when BJ rocks there is no better place. You take the bad and the good. I agree with you on the point that the available talent pool can certainly be shallow at times. I look in envy at the Photo gallery and the beautiful girls from other regions posted there and then read that some lucky stiff ( pun intended) has done them for 300 or even lower. Here we can pay 5times as much or more and we are the ones that get screwed.
Like you ,we will all be back in the saddle again even if we keep falling off because that next one could be the wonderful mind blowing exerience we have all had before and will have again.
Good luck and thanks for your illuminating post.
Thank you for great report from Mojo888.
I was able to find this sauna place. When I first walked in, they require me to take off my shoes and then go into the shower/sauna/pool area. I took a quick shower and the changing boy wanted to sell expensive PJ. Fortunately, my limited Mandarin helped me out to take the cheapest PJ. Then I went upstairs.
The upstairs staff asked me to go to large room or private room. I asked for private room. Then she spoke to me (in Mandarin) about the pricing. I asked for oil massage (BTW, she did not mention about oil massage in the beginning). She said 280RMB including the room. I said "ok" and requested her to let me choose the girls. She said she can only bring one at a time. I asked the first one to go back, and the 2nd one is okay but w/ huge breast. I asked the 2nd one to stay (#9).
She started w/ breast massage on my back (pretty okay). After 15 mins, she started breast massaging my manhood until I am done w/ smile. She got the skills and huge breast do make a difference.
Damage is about 360RMB (drinks+entrance fee+oil massage). The place is not as clean as I would expect (does not really meet my standard), but the breast massage is cool. (I wish WangJing MP provides breast massage, but no luck there)
For folks been in this sauna and "ChunXiu Lu" or "Shi Yi", would be interested to know how you compare them. Sammy T mentioned that he rated "ChunXiu Lu" as 4 star while "Shi Yi" as 3 star. I will try to go to "ChunXiu Lu" and "Shi Yi" next time I am back to Beijing. Leaving Beijing tomorrow.
[QUOTE=Mojo888]Re this first sauna I mention, it is definitely open: start from Sanlitun / Zhaolong hotel and head east ( Gongtibei rd/ Nongzhanguan rd); after you pass 4th ring road on the road make right on second traffic light (not counting one crossing light). You will see a home inn on the left after you make the turn. Go to second small retail cluster on the left. It has a hair salon / restaurant / sauna. Building no. Is "114" and it is just before the first intersection and a kfc.
I was just at this place the other day, and the problem in finding it is they always have the lobby lights on dim and it looks like it is closed. But it is very much open. A sichuan girl (no. 20) is amazing. Again, rmb300 for oil massage with breast massage. Moderately nice place, clean and decent nice overall. Friendly service.[/QUOTE]
Anyone knows whether Best Western is GF and has safe box in the rooms. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket]maybe because they were thinking about what the golden-haired westerner in a suit might be needing the condoms for, but probably because they ripped off the laowei. Fucking cunts.[/QUOTE]About somebody put it that straight Johnny! Your obviously a well seasoned monger. Apologies that not a lot of info was put up for your trip. Maybe if your parameters were a bit wider then there would have been more than one PM. Im sure we'll try harder for you next time.
And about the chocolates, too fucking rite. The day these moles appreciate how much more they are making than their far away sisters, I'm sure my activity reports will double.
If you reckon 700 is more dear than HK, then I cant wait to visit. I've been assured in the past that it can get quite pricey down there.
Sid
I will be in Beijing at the end of this month. Anyone tried this service?
You can even search by city.
[url]http://www.escortschina.info/indexfrm.asp[/url]
Thanks for all of the comments.
IM (not-so-H) O, I think it was a good post because it was at the moment of capitulation. A final straw had come at 2:05 that evening.
Also, I have come to realize that excluding our spiritual side, we can be considered walking talking contained chemical reactions. And over the course of our maturity, it pays for one to consider, analyze, and remember the effects of various inputs to this continual reaction.
Experience, both over-time and immediate are of course major inputs as they can be the equivalent of a centrifuge’s spinning vs. a gentle clockwise stir with a glass rod in a Pyrex beaker. The other inputs are chemical. And some inputs are more potent and immediate than others. What I am getting at:
Beer: Makes my groggy and slow.
Wine: I cannot physically take the acidity and mentally I cannot absorb the preoccupation with pretension that always seems to accompany the consuming.
Vodka: Enlightenment. Although I cannot seem to remember it later nor can I impart any evidence to others at any time during or after consumption.
Tequila: Violence and destruction.
Scotch and the other fine brown distillations: Humor, wit, and deliberateness.
Disclaimer: An unneeded but overused abbreviation in this forum: YMMV.
Special kudos to Johnny Walker’s marketing department. I noticed, some couple of years ago when I began to travel to Central America that their brand has an unsurpassed representation in the developing world. There is an executive in Scotland who hopefully has received his due.
It reminds me of how KCF is eating McDonalds’ lunch from Cape Town to Xi’An. As a USA businessman, I cannot help but to appreciate things like this.
But, I digress. The point is: pay for the Black Label. And use the Red Label to remove unwanted dried paint from otherwise sturdy surfaces.
I am in Wuhan as of that last couple of hours or so. But, typical of my visits to China, I will be hosted each evening. This results in precious few opportunities to take the advice offered by the contributors of this forum. In the China forum, I have always appreciated the “Newbie guides” as they are perfect for me when I find myself with a free night in a given city. Tonight, as I write, I have in front of me, a piece of Novetel stationary that I prepared this morning in Beijing.
It says:
Sh la hotel, go left. Right at 778 Rest. 1 block left. 200-500 RMB. BBS.
Taipei Club.
Cluster
500-300 RMB
100M north
xhou dao quan bei lu
lou yu rd
Novotel
Right
150 ft
Left
Ho Jo sauna
These are the distillation of the most recent posts in the Wuhan thread.
I visited the ATM and walked a few feet out of the Shangri La and then turned around. You see, I will be picked up tomorrow at 7AM for a ride out to the countryside where I will be hosted. It is already too late. Perhaps tomorrow.
I was in Beijing earlier this year and I had a great time one night at Maggies. I made eye contact with a girl and she came over to talk, within about 2 minutes her tongue was in my mouth, nice. We headed back to the cubicles by the bathroom and sat down to talk. It is hard to talk with a tongue playing with your tonxsils so I strted exploring her body with my hands. I finally stopped just short of bringing her to orgasm and told her we should go to my hotel to which she eagerly agreed. We got there and she immediately took off her clothes faster that I could get my shoes off.
It was a great night, the only problem was that she kept getting on tip with out a condom and I had to stop her. In the morning she was on top of me before I was even awake and again no condom. A little scarey for me. Great time and she never even mentioned money, though I gave her a good tip before she left.
Now I recommended Maggies to a friend who went there a few weeks ago and when he gout there it was being raided by the police. I thought they were partly owned by the police or army? Anyone know what the raid was about and if they are back to normal?
Thanks
PIT
I started off my Holiday in China in Beijing. Sex was not the reason for my trip, but I am a healthy single young man.
I was mostly in tourist area's and BBS seems to be the easiest lay to find. 300 for a shitty massage and h/j 500 b/j... So yeah i skipped it. I checked out Maggies one night and really wasn't impressed. I think the youngest gal in there was maybe 35. Focked one of the hotel massage gals for 100USD. I think the best thing was just getting legit massages. Anyways all I can say is that my trip got better. Don't get me wrong here, I absolutely loved beijing short of the sex scene and horrible smog.
My next stop was Xian which had a great little sauna in my hotel. 340rmb got you a choice of young hotties who all did fire and ice and had nothing but a smile on there face. Needless to say thats how i started my morning off everyday there. What a great way to start a day :) My Hotel... [url]www.xananfanghotel.com[/url] Next to the checkin desk is a "bath house".
The next place of interest was Shanghai. OMGWTFBBQPWNED! Shanghai kicks ass! Honestly I only went to 1 sauna a few times. I ordered 2 girls both times i went there for 1200rmb. True bliss is being rimmed by a hot young asian while having another giving you BBBJ! Seriously thats like 150 bucks for a 3some with 2 hot girls that spin in circles suspended in the air and lick your ass slowly and methodically and completely unrushed... Best brothel experience of my life. The Sauna I went to is listed on this forum, 825 some street. Search a little and you'll find it.
More than anything, Thanks everyone for making there contributions here. I really appreciated having this resource and am just adding my 2cents to it.
Hi folks - I will be visiting Beijing next month and staying in the Chongwen district, specifically at the New World Marriott. Though this won't my first trip to Beijing, it'll be the first time staying in this part of town and so I don't know the area at all. Are there good mongering joints nearby, perhaps a BBS type place or some good massage/sauna establishments? I did a search and didn't come up with too much for this part of the city. Thanks in advance for your help!
Thought I'd give the girls at WangJing MP a break, as I've been using the July discount quite a bit the last couple of weeks, and went back to a place I hadn't been to in awhile - the MP in Tower B (2510) of Sunshine 100. I've tried a number of the girls there, but keep coming back to number 1 - a neimonguoren, cute smile, decent A-cups, will let you finger her while you're getting your HJ. They only offer HJs at this place, and it is expensive (~280 RMB for a 90 minute massage, plus 200 for the HJ), but the massage itself is actually acceptable.
Details:
Xin Yue Xing Cheng Massage Center (心悦星城 ) - Sunshine 100, Tower B 2510.
Apparently (from Thats BJ or Cityweekend - can't remember which) there's an MP in Tower A - second floor, I believe. Has anyone tried it? Also, the one on 2nd or 3rd floor of Tower E used to be totally legit, but has some dodgy-looking adverts in the magazines, so will make my way back there at some point, or will perhaps try across the street at SOHO where there's been some good reports in this forum.
I must get out at some point and try some of the other MPs in WangJing as well. Will do next week, report back. Or, more likely, I'll wait till the July sale at 419 is over and then start exploring :-)
[QUOTE=Yelper] ...perhaps try across the street at SOHO where there's been some good reports in this forum./QUOTE]
Hi Yelper
You will certainly get more at Soho up to and including full service. The quality of the massage may not be that good. Expect to pay about three times for what you paid for a massage/HJ.
Enjoy
Hey Sid,
Thanks for your response. I know I had strict parameters--dictated by my short stay and lack of knowledge. But I think I learned a lot even during my short stay. And thanks to the 2 guys who PMed me.
As for your comment about HK, what you heard about it getting pricey is probably saunas or the Filipina bar scenes. In fact you can have excellent incall experiences for HKD 300-500 (about RMB 270-450) or less. HK is a great mongering destination. If you're ever down here I'll help you out.
Good luck and stay safe everyone!
Passin Thru:
I had the same experience with a Mongolian girl in Maggies a few months ago where she would just get on top of me and she would get on top of me, start rubbing on me and then start putting the tip in. Happened both evening and morning. Once she just started the same way started to get worked up and then started screwing me without a condom. I stopped her and put a condom on though. Maybe the same girl. What was her name?
Checked out the place last night. Was a bit difficult to find first. It is on the left (not right) side, when you come from the 3rd Ring.
Opted for the full course: RMB 1280 (added up to 1480). Left 3.5 hours later as a happy and a truly satisfied man. The girl was great. Yes, expensive, but I agree, worth the money.
I only wish the water in the pool would be hotter (I come from Japan)
Know only one sauna (in Shanghai) that is cleaner than this one.
[QUOTE=Sir Henry]1) I checked out the Saunas in Maijiabao Rd and I finally found it.
Tried the Sauna, manicure and a Fullbody massage (really proffessional) and later the extraservice. I talked to the manager (mike) about the prices because they only have a pricelist in Hansi. He told me that the Usual (fire&ice, catbath; BJ, FS) for 70min. Is about 1280 Y. Thats quite expensive. But I tried a nice girl from Sichuan an she was worth the money. Cute, friendly. Lovely. No good massage but. Very sensitive. End up with rd about 1600 Y for 5 hours.
2) Didn't find the SaunaPlace near 4th ring road. And decided to go to Chunxiulu for the regular program. 80 min. FS- Nr. 802. A little bit to slim but with a nice smile. Very loud. During the intercourse. I gave DATTY and she was really interesstent in my butt. So I had 2 nice hours there for normal price (with the normal pyama. No money) 928 Y.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Richard Chan]Anyone heard of a girl named ai. Is it true that Chinese girls in there cannot go out. And only mongolian girls can go out.[/QUOTE]
That is true.
The most you can get from a Chinese bar girl at Maggie's is a phone number "to meet in the afternoon to go shopping."
And then you meet in the afternoon and go shopping.
As for Ai: If you've found a girl by that name, then you have found true love.
[QUOTE=Oreally]I will be in Beijing at the end of this month. Anyone tried this service?
You can even search by city.
[url]http://www.escortschina.info/indexfrm.asp[/url][/QUOTE]
Stay far, far, far away from them.
[QUOTE=Canada]Passin Thru:
I had the same experience with a Mongolian girl in Maggies a few months ago where she would just get on top of me and she would get on top of me, start rubbing on me and then start putting the tip in. Happened both evening and morning. Once she just started the same way started to get worked up and then started screwing me without a condom. I stopped her and put a condom on though. Maybe the same girl. What was her name?[/QUOTE]
Canada, Passin: Pls describe the girl. Big girl, big tits, (fake) blonde hair?
Re raid: Nobody has heard of a raid, and news is travelling fast in the Nation's Capital. It's also the Capital Of Unfounded Rumors ... Ur source probably mistook the formidable security force of Maggie's for the law ....
[B]Update: According to sources close to Maggie's Management, there were no, repeat no raids on Maggie's. Expect the sky to fall shortly before the law desecrates an officially recognized place of worship to sex godesses. [/B]
[QUOTE=St Germain]Don't know how many of you folks get up to the Huilongguan area (north of Beijing in Changping District).
I recently tried a sauna just off the Huilongguan exit of the northbound expressway.
Damage for an hour of FS was RMB 788 + 40 or so for the showers, etc. Seems to me quite a bit cheaper than the FS places in town. (Although still more expensive than my favorite saunas in Shanghai.)
They let me choose among 3 girls. Ended up with a 7 with a very nice smile. Got the tongue bath routine, breast oil massage, CBJ and then FS in several positions.
Easiest way to get there is to get off at the second exit for Huilongguan and then parallel the expressway northbound for about 300 meters. Then there is a road going off to the right. Make a right, and then on the left side you'll see one big red Chinese character "Yu" (meaning shower). That's the place.
I thought it was kinda cute that you could buy a membership card for RMB 30,000, for which you get RMB 40,000 worth of service (i.e. 25% off). That's a lot of pre-paid banging.
Count[/QUOTE]
Quite far from Beijing (5th ring road). This is a very dirty and untidy place. Selection is quite poor and even getting a return taxi is big problem.
[QUOTE=PassinThrough]
Now I recommended Maggies to a friend who went there a few weeks ago and when he gout there it was being raided by the police. I thought they were partly owned by the police or army? Anyone know what the raid was about and if they are back to normal?
PIT[/QUOTE]
The police occasionally target Hollywood - last week was one of those week. I understand they caught 2-3 Russian girls which was a shame. They normally just follow you once you leave, raids are very rare. I normally am aware of only one each year and its not the normal time of year for this type of activity.
If you are a laowai the police will never bother you if you take out a Russian - but if you leave Hollywood with a Chinese girl - or even a Mongolian who looks Chinese - beware. I suspect it will be back to normal by next week.
If you are worried, when you enter look around the road for white or black cars with at least 2 men sitting in them. The police normally observe the place before they conduct a raid. Its normally so obvious that no local Chinese guys turn up, so if there are no local Chinese guys in the place at 10pm that could be another sign something is up.
However i have heard its getting harder to get a visa if you are a young lady, so I strongly suspect there will be a general tightening of the business until after the Olympics.
NOTE : As indicated by another member, this only applies to Hollywood. Never to maggies. I have never heard of maggies being raided or of police following folks leaving maggies. Sorry for any confusion.
[QUOTE=Sebastian My]If you are worried, when you enter look around the road for cars with men sitting in them. The police normally observe the place before they conduct a raid. Its normally so obviouse that no local chinese guys turn up, so if there are no local chinese guys in the place at 10pm that could be another sign something is up.[/QUOTE]
Not applicable to Maggie's AT ALL.
There are no mainland Chinese guys allowed into Maggie's, period. And the cars with men sitting in them are called taxis.
Newbie looking for BBBJ near Silk Market. Hoping to pay less than 400 kuai. Any advice? Thanks!
A few years ago, somebody on this board reported about a police raid on a bar in Beijing. Everybody with a proper ID was allowed to leave, everybody else had to stay for questioning.
May I suggest keeping a good photocopy of your passport and visa with you at all times.
[QUOTE=Santa]A few years ago, somebody on this board reported about a police raid on a bar in Beijing. Everybody with a proper ID was allowed to leave, everybody else had to stay for questioning.
May I suggest keeping a good photocopy of your passport and visa with you at all times.[/QUOTE]
Yes you are right. I was involved in a raid at the Pig a few years back. All Chinese girls in one side, all Mongolian girls on the other and all men with proper ID allowed to leave. Others were questioned but ultimately allowed to go.
Was kind of scary though.
ES
Had the pleasure of a massage in the hotel, last nite and got a FS for $600 including the massage fee. PM me if you want to know, the girl was a 7 and her technique was so good. She would not let me take pic of her, but she was 27.
The hotel was near the Temple of Heaven site.
Re: Girl in Maggies. The girl I was with was Mongolian slender about 5 3" B cup with light colored hair. Can't remember her name though. The one you are talking about has to be a different girl
Orignally Posted by Oreally:
I will be in Beijing at the end of this month. Anyone tried this service?
You can even search by city.
[url]http://www.escortschina.info/indexfrm.asp[/url]
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Zhuren Quote:
Stay far, far, far away from them.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Zhuren,
Ok, I will take your advice. But now you have me wondering why?
Any one piont me in right direction?
Any in town can meet and check out the best spots?
Staying at a Home Inn in Beijing, I get these cards slipped under the door, so I called one up on Friday in the daytime to arrange a "nooner." (The service I tried has a phone number ending in 3665, we spoke Chinese.) They start the negotiation at 600 but will accept 400. They said it would take 30-40 min. for the girl to arrive, but I waited for an hour. The girl was somewhere between dumpy and cute, so I'll give her a 5. Attitude-wise, she was a 5 or less, just cold and businesslike. I didn't want to wait another hour to see a different girl, so I went ahead. As usual, I did simple mish, no BJ. I gave her the 400 plus 30 for taxi (she showed me a taxi receipt for 25), and she complained that I should pay for taxi both ways. I didn't, and she left.
My suggestion is not to try this service unless you have the time and patience to turn girls away and see different ones. Maybe you can ask them to send two or more, and pick one. Also, clarify with the agent what is expected in terms of taxi fare, and whether you will be charged for that on girls you turn away.
Bottom line: The above reinforces my perception that, for Chinese FS providers, Beijing offers half the quality at twice the price.
PS: I plan to hit Maggie's tonight (Saturday night). If anyone's going, please PM me. Cheers.
[QUOTE=Canada]Passin Thru:
I had the same experience with a Mongolian girl in Maggies a few months ago where she would just get on top of me and she would get on top of me, start rubbing on me and then start putting the tip in. Happened both evening and morning. Once she just started the same way started to get worked up and then started screwing me without a condom. I stopped her and put a condom on though. Maybe the same girl. What was her name?[/QUOTE]
Can you complete the picture - did you also get (almost) free service like Passin Thru? If so, it is very likely to be the same girl - can't imagine that there are 2 or more free Mongolians working at the Chapel.
[QUOTE=Oreally]Orignally Posted by Oreally:
I will be in Beijing at the end of this month. Anyone tried this service?
You can even search by city.
[url]http://www.escortschina.info/indexfrm.asp[/url]
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Zhuren Quote:
Stay far, far, far away from them.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Zhuren,
Ok, I will take your advice. But now you have me wondering why?[/QUOTE]
Hahahaha! LOL!
Do you really need to ask why?
You could of course ignore the advice and find out firsthand, then report back to the forum.
Please be sure to let us know. I suspect curiosity will kill this cat.
MAB
[QUOTE=Jack Spratt]Can you complete the picture - did you also get (almost) free service like Passin Thru? If so, it is very likely to be the same girl - can't imagine that there are 2 or more free Mongolians working at the Chapel.[/QUOTE]
I urge you to report exceptional behavior (good and bad) of the ladies to Maggie's Management. Your first contact would be Linda (elegant slim Chinese bargirl, currently the best looking in the line-up.) She doubles as the den mother. Linda will also recommend to you a nice girl after you have made the proper donations in terms of drinks and tips.
[QUOTE=Oreally]
Zhuren,
Ok, I will take your advice. But now you have me wondering why?[/QUOTE]
Very simple: You'll get screwed.
(old report by jobbons) Dirty KTV, Wangjing, and Kinky Sauna
Hello! I’m going to post my first report, because I feel like some of you need some help. There’s a real nice “dirty” KTV in Wangjing. Do I have anyone’s attention?
By the way, the standard price for FS in Wangjing (massage joints) is three hundo not four (same for takeout).
Anyone interested in a kinky sauna where girls are in cop and nurse uniforms with implants providing FS for eight hundred? I haven’t checked it out, but I have an approximate address and it’s near Hepingli.
The Mongolian girl I was with did not ask for any money either at Maggies or at the hotel. In the morning at about 9:00 AM after round 3 she said she had to go home never asked for money but I gave her 500RMB as I told her she probably neeeded some taxi money as I expected to pay something and the service was great. I thought if she was working she would correct me on price but she was very appreciative and never said anything just gave me a kiss and was on her way. Not sure if she expected any money but was definately worth every cent.
[QUOTE=Holden Man]Any one piont me in right direction?
Any in town can meet and check out the best spots?[/QUOTE]
Holden, you came to the right place the wrong way. There is a wealth of information here. Start with Sammy's guide:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=571272&highlight=beginners+guide#post571272[/url]
NBG
[QUOTE=Canada]The Mongolian girl I was with did not ask for any money either at Maggies or at the hotel. In the morning at about 9:00 AM after round 3 she said she had to go home never asked for money but I gave her 500RMB as I told her she probably neeeded some taxi money as I expected to pay something and the service was great. I thought if she was working she would correct me on price but she was very appreciative and never said anything just gave me a kiss and was on her way. Not sure if she expected any money but was definately worth every cent.[/QUOTE]
Well, you either are a regular, or she treated you as a regular. A Maggie's regular is supposed to know what the rate is (the standard is 800 RMB.) And if no money is discussed, the regular is supposed to pay what is regularly paid. We're all professionals here. 500 RMB would be a bit much for taxi money. If the service was great, she deserves the regular price. Maybe even a bonus on top. She did expect the money, otherwise she wouldn't work at Maggie's. She expected 800, but apparently was content with getting 500. Contempted, if no money would have been produced, she would have raised the issue.
I could be totally wrong. In that case, a Mongolian maiden has fallen in love with you and will move in with you shortly. Did you exchange phone numbers?
Dear Friends,
I spend 50% of my time in Beijng and Shanghai. I'm now a bit tired of constant trials and errors at places like Maggie's, Saunas, etc.
I'm now looking for something a bit more 'constant' on a retainer fee and who speaks English.
Any ideas or suggestions about how to go about finding someone like that?
Thank you for your help.
Living in Asia for more than 6 years already, but a newcomer to Beijing and and this forum. Congrats to the fantastic work my friends (I wish I would have known earlier! ) & big thanks for all the information provided!
[QUOTE=Richard Chan]Had the pleasure of a massage in the hotel, last nite and got a FS for $600 including the massage fee. PM me if you want to know, the girl was a 7 and her technique was so good. She would not let me take pic of her, but she was 27.
The hotel was near the Temple of Heaven site. [/QUOTE]Hey Richard,
Tks for your report, looking since quite some time for an experience I had in Shanghai, when the girl was throwing my legs over hers. Me lying on my stomach. Grapping my dick from behind & massaging the whole area.
Its very hard to describe (I'the have to make a drawing) but you know what I mean if she has used a similar technique. Did she?
Anyway please let me know the name of that hotel. Tried to PM you, but that's blocked for some reason.
Tks & cheers
Conor
I was at the Hollywood for take-out last week and willingly fell victom to the taxi scam which I was already well aware of. I ALWAYS walk past the dudes at the front of the bar and walk on to the street to catch a cab driving by instead of paying the set rip-off rate. This has been my method for more than a year. As I was leaving with my little Russian 19 year-old hottie, she insisted that if she did not use the cabs in front, she would get into trouble. Yeah, OK, maybe... 100 kuai for what is normally an 18 kuai ride. Since I was already into "take her home and fuck her eyes out" mode, I was not in the mood to walk away from the deal. Call me a dick but all in all, the little thing was worth it and the little head was in control.
This will be a negotiating point before leaving from now on. Perhaps I'll just wipe my ass with a 100 note and save it in a baggie to give to the driver next time. That would be well worth the extra few bucks.
[QUOTE=Papi Putito]I was at the Hollywood for take-out last week and willingly fell victom to the taxi scam which I was already well aware of. I ALWAYS walk past the dudes at the front of the bar and walk on to the street to catch a cab driving by instead of paying the set rip-off rate. This has been my method for more than a year. As I was leaving with my little Russian 19 year-old hottie, she insisted that if she did not use the cabs in front, she would get into trouble. Yeah, OK, maybe... 100 kuai for what is normally an 18 kuai ride. Since I was already into "take her home and fuck her eyes out" mode, I was not in the mood to walk away from the deal. Call me a dick but all in all, the little thing was worth it and the little head was in control.
This will be a negotiating point before leaving from now on. Perhaps I'll just wipe my ass with a 100 note and save it in a baggie to give to the driver next time. That would be well worth the extra few bucks.[/QUOTE]
Mate ALL the *****s in Hollywood will use that line - just tell them fuck them and walk to the road - she will be 1 mtr behind you when you get there - I do it EVERY TIME - it always works ok.
NEVER EVER will I give any of those VERMIN taxi drivers a penny / cent whatever - they are just germs.
[QUOTE=Beijing Fox]Dear Friends,
I spend 50% of my time in Beijng and Shanghai. I'm now a bit tired of constant trials and errors at places like Maggie's, Saunas, etc.
I'm now looking for something a bit more 'constant' on a retainer fee and who speaks English.
Any ideas or suggestions about how to go about finding someone like that?
Thank you for your help.[/QUOTE]
Firstly what breed are you looking for?
Chinese? Mongolian? Russian? Other.
Ok so you spend 50% of your time split between Beijing / Shanghai right?
50% of what?
1 day a month?
1 week a month?
Full time?
[QUOTE=Conor Troy]
Tks for your report, looking since quite some time for an experience I had in Shanghai, when the girl was throwing my legs over hers. Me lying on my stomach. Grapping my dick from behind & massaging the whole area.
Conor[/QUOTE]
This is standard procedure for oil massage, and could find it easily in most places.
Enjoy
GlenEagle
Hi,
Thanks for your answer. Would be interested in a Chinese, but flexible. I'm 50% of one month in Beijing, though not in one piece.
Best Regards
[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]Firstly what breed are you looking for?
Chinese? Mongolian? Russian? Other.
Ok so you spend 50% of your time split between Beijing / Shanghai right?
50% of what?
1 day a month?
1 week a month?
Full time?[/QUOTE]
Anyone interested in sharing info about PIG & WHISTLE LADIES? How do they rate? Any that should be avoided? My own P&W LADIES GUIDE:
TIAN TIAN: She is the giggly, pretty "girl next door" and daytime office lady. Age 26. Very nice smile and pretty face. Dresses in loose clothing that makes her look slightly chubby, but actually her body is superb. She is warm and cozy in bed, and has a good attitude. Does not rush you, but actually not too passionate, but OK. Nice to hang out with. Limited English.
SOPHIE: Tall and thin. Late 20s/early 30s. Pretty face. Works as a model during the day. Friendly. Knows some English. Pads her bra quite a bit. Has very tiny breasts actually. Very nice in bed though: passionate and enjoys it. Has her own apartment nearby LIDO that is available for action.
[QUOTE=Beijing Fox]Hi,
Thanks for your answer. Would be interested in a Chinese, but flexible. I'm 50% of one month in Beijing, though not in one piece.
Best Regards[/QUOTE]
So you are in Beijing 2 weeks out of 4?
And you split your time equally btw Beijing and Shanghai - so I guess that means you are in China full time?
What do you mean "though not in one piece"?
Is this a typo?
I will be staying in XinQiao Novotel hotel in Chongwenmen area. Where should I go to pick up girl for all night play? I am ABC and speaks perfect Mandarin.
[QUOTE=Beijing Fox]Dear Friends,
I spend 50% of my time in Beijng and Shanghai. I'm now a bit tired of constant trials and errors at places like Maggie's, Saunas, etc.
I'm now looking for something a bit more 'constant' on a retainer fee and who speaks English.
Any ideas or suggestions about how to go about finding someone like that?
Thank you for your help.[/QUOTE]
The best place for "on retainer" arrangements used to be adultfriendfinder. It's usually blocked in China, so use xmatch.com instead. I'd say 90% of the single ladies listed as living in China on AFF expect some money in return. Beware, multiple personalities are rampant on AFF.
[QUOTE=Visio]I will be staying in XinQiao Novotel hotel in Chongwenmen area. Where should I go to pick up girl for all night play? I am ABC and speaks perfect Mandarin.[/QUOTE]
Visio - here is the best advice anybody could ever give you - RTFF!
[QUOTE=Sir Henry](old report by jobbons) Dirty KTV, Wangjing, and Kinky Sauna
Hello! I’m going to post my first report, because I feel like some of you need some help. There’s a real nice “dirty” KTV in Wangjing. Do I have anyone’s attention?
By the way, the standard price for FS in Wangjing (massage joints) is three hundo not four (same for takeout).
Anyone interested in a kinky sauna where girls are in cop and nurse uniforms with implants providing FS for eight hundred? I haven’t checked it out, but I have an approximate address and it’s near Hepingli.[/QUOTE]
Sir,
Which massage joint are you talking about in Wangjing?
Can you please provide me addresses? If possible, please PM me.
I have read the forum for a few days already. What I want is a little different from others. I would like to get a young Chinese girl, maybe a college student. And I also don't want to travel too far. I want to get one in the Chongwenmen area.
[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]Visio - here is the best advice anybody could ever give you - RTFF![/QUOTE]
By 'not in one piece' I mean, not 2 weeks in Beijing and 2 weeks in Shanghai, but normally on 5-6 day intervalls.
Will try adultfinder, as I'm currently abroad on a business trip, and xmatch.com from China.
Thank you for the hint.
[QUOTE=Zhuren]The best place for "on retainer" arrangements used to be adultfriendfinder. It's usually blocked in China, so use xmatch.com instead. I'd say 90% of the single ladies listed as living in China on AFF expect some money in return. Beware, multiple personalities are rampant on AFF.[/QUOTE]
I agree with Zhuren.
As you spend so much time here, best option for you is to find a freebie.
[QUOTE=Beijing Fox]Dear Friends,
I spend 50% of my time in Beijng and Shanghai. I'm now a bit tired of constant trials and errors at places like Maggie's, Saunas, etc.
I'm now looking for something a bit more 'constant' on a retainer fee and who speaks English.
Any ideas or suggestions about how to go about finding someone like that?
Thank you for your help.[/QUOTE]
Read this report by Sebastian who reports some activity in that area
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=371765&postcount=2920[/url]
[QUOTE=Visio]I have read the forum for a few days already. What I want is a little different from others. I would like to get a young Chinese girl, maybe a college student. And I also don't want to travel too far. I want to get one in the Chongwenmen area.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Albert Punter]Read this report by Sebastian who reports some activity in that area
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=371765&postcount=2920[/url][/QUOTE]
That's a VERY GENERAL description, applicable to most of BJ .... However, our friend wants Chinese talent, in walking distance from Chongwenmen, and college students to boot.
Well, the University is on summer holidays, and the only "college students" within walking distance will most likely invite him to look at art or quaint Chinese tea houses .....
[QUOTE=Albert Punter]I agree with Zhuren.
As you spend so much time here, best option for you is to find a freebie.[/QUOTE]
Nothing is ever truly "free" in China :) However, girls for long term lease are best to be found in the provinces.
I have been around here too long to have made this mistake, but perhaps I can feel better about it if I share my problem with others.
I drive by a bunch of BBS on my way to work every day. They are on Chaoyang Da Jie just to the west of the 3rd ring road, next to the Jing Guang hotel, across the street from the Ford dealer. There are four or five of them on this street, all with the chinese version of the international barber pole (twirling tube light). The girls in there always seem well dressed, and quite attractive.
So, my little friend tells me he is bored working, and maybe a hand job would help, so I wander over. Girls very friendly, all wave me in as I make two passes down the street. Finally stop in one, and she immediately takes me to the back room, which has a bed and a curtain. 300 RMB for a massage and HJ. Ok, a bit steep, but I ain't going back to surf porn in my office. Collect the money first. Pants down, I am feeling her up, and in comes another girl. Stone cold fox. And don't I want two girls, and the second one will give me a BJ? Another RMB 300 more out the wallet, and another RMb 100 for the boss. Now, they both have their tops off, the first girl has her pants down, and my hands are everywhere, and the BJ commences. the stone cold fox takes her pants off and climbs up to sit on me. I decide I need to screw her. Nope, but of course, there is another girl... She is ugly, but I am stupid, and another 300 goes out of the wallet. Now I got two naked girls sitting on me, I am in one of them (the ugly fat one) and kissing the pretty one with my fingers up the first one. I don't even want to add up what I spent, but it was an interesting experience, but not one I will repeat.
[QUOTE=Zhuren]Nothing is ever truly "free" in China :) [/QUOTE]
Just curious where it is free.
have visited this place few times. can report that best service I have received from no 16. sure 22 and 56 are fine, but can't beat 16.
on the other side, 68 was less good.
[QUOTE=Mojo888]Wangjing area, which is not far from Lido Hotel, is populated by many Koreans and to a lesser extent, Japanese people. Therefore there are many massage parlors in apartment buildings in this area to service the needs of the community. The huge complex called Wangjing New City (Wangjing Xin Cheng) is one of the biggest apartment complexes in the area and is "shopping center" full of massage opportunities. The complex is broken into areas: building names in the 300s are Area 3; in the 400s are Area 4, and so forth. One fine establishment is in Building 419, near Guangshun South Street, not far from the Starbucks and Nirvana Fitness in this area. This place is just finishing renovation now and has lots more private rooms with double beds. Excellent oil massage and hand jobs are offered in a nice friendly environment for RMB160. No, sex, at least IN HOUSE. The girls are pretty good, but you have to shop around. No. 56 is excellent! No. 22 is good too. (not sure if she is still there). After you get to know the girls, most will let you feel them up, even--depending on the chemistry you create and your charm--take their shirts off and even skirts off. Also, outcall is available and if you are a regular of one of the girls, additional services COULD be available, depending on the girl for a modest tip. Anyone have other places in the area, or favorite girls to report on?[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the information. Is the hotel's coffee shop or bar a good place to pick up girls? I am going to stay in the XinQiao Novotel hotel. I believe there are barber shops nearby. Are they worth visiting? Am I allowed to take the girls away from the barber shops?
[QUOTE=Zhuren]That's a VERY GENERAL description, applicable to most of BJ .... However, our friend wants Chinese talent, in walking distance from Chongwenmen, and college students to boot.
Well, the University is on summer holidays, and the only "college students" within walking distance will most likely invite him to look at art or quaint Chinese tea houses .....[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Zhuren]That's a VERY GENERAL description, applicable to most of BJ .... However, our friend wants Chinese talent, in walking distance from Chongwenmen, and college students to boot.
Well, the University is on summer holidays, and the only "college students" within walking distance will most likely invite him to look at art or quaint Chinese tea houses .....[/QUOTE]
Humm - I agree this is asking a bit much. I am not aware of any college student in that area, you could try the KTV's to the west - you may find a student in one of them, but none of them are really high-class enough for college students. The only time i scored a college student was when I lived in Beijing and she liked to stay over because my place was large (by her standards) clean and had a TV. But I met her through my niece who was studying at Beijing University - so my experience is not a good guide. My strong advice is to use Q or AFF, at a pinch go to some high class KTV's, in some, very rare places, students may work part time to earn a bit of extra cash. The disco's - like babyface - may be good. But apart from these "high-energy" investment options - I have no idea where you will score a real college student.
I do find it puzzling why guys go crazy about college students - professionals normally give much better service and in many cases can look a lot better. However I do admit getting tempted with in-experienced girls (not students) and in every case the experience was crap, but I did develop some real - non-sex based relationships - but I suspect that is not what is being asked for in this this case.
Dear Friends,
Thank you for your advice and the idea of a freebie.
The 'problem' is I'm married in SH, plus, I have a steady girlfriend.
I don't need any more emotional complications that a freebie might bring.
Just want to come to Beijing and pay for straight sex with the knowledge and guarantee of getting good and friendly service.
I completely agree with one comment, that nothing is free, neither in China nor anywhere else: Everyone, the wife, the girlfriend, the *****, they all want money
Cheers
[QUOTE=Albert Punter]I agree with Zhuren.
As you spend so much time here, best option for you is to find a freebie.[/QUOTE]
Does anybody have any recommendations for places close to Palm Springs or Park Avenue apartments on the south side of Chaoyang Park?
[QUOTE=Beijing Fox]Dear Friends,
Thank you for your advice and the idea of a freebie.
The 'problem' is I'm married in SH, plus, I have a steady girlfriend.
I don't need any more emotional complications that a freebie might bring.
Just want to come to Beijing and pay for straight sex with the knowledge and guarantee of getting good and friendly service.
I completely agree with one comment, that nothing is free, neither in China nor anywhere else: Everyone, the wife, the girlfriend, the *****, they all want money
Cheers[/QUOTE]
OK OK - now you have clarified things a bit.
The best advice I could give you is go to Maggies early in the week - Sun, Mon, Tue or Wed night - take out something that takes your fancy.
Pay her the 'normal' fee first time - RMB800.
Treat her VERY VERY well - like she really is SPECIAL - if she provides what you want - then negotiate again for future visits to yours and her mutual satisfaction.
If the first night is no good - go and repeat over and over until you get what you want.
I have 4 or 5 'regulars' who visit me daytime / evening in hotel at 'reasonable' rates - always first class service and we are BOTH happy.
It aint that complicated - do a bit of leg work and it will happen for you.
Now the picture is clear.
First of all, let me tell I admire you that after wife and gf still have energy for others. You (and many other members, including myself) are the living proof that males need variety of females.
Other than that, I would do what BBB suggests: make trials until you find the right one(s).
Again Thanks for your all of your advice.
The problem so far was, that I had found one or two nice girls in Maggies's but the sex had been mediocre: No to on-the-balcony (looking out on the 2nd ring road), no to anal, no to . . . .
Actually last weekend I found a nice Mongolian at Maggie's. Looks OK, but really pro-active and dedicated to the cause. We had a nice time.
I'm abroad now, but we've started to exchange e-mails. We agreed to meet again next Friday.
Maybe she will be the one?
[QUOTE=Albert Punter]Now the picture is clear.
First of all, let me tell I admire you that after wife and gf still have energy for others. You (and many other members, including myself) are the living proof that males need variety of females.
Other than that, I would do what BBB suggests: make trials until you find the right one(s).[/QUOTE]
Guys,
College girls, ChongWenMen, Jeeyzus!!!!
Chongwenmen is about a 20rmb taxi ride from Maggies. Its also a subway station to take you ANYWHERE else that Beijing has to offer mongers; for 3RMB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What is the big deal with college students???? Come on!!! I'll tell you I'm a college girl if it means making 10 times more than my monthly salary!! Get what im saying??
Screw your heads back on!!
Sid
I agree and disagree with Albert Punter. Fox, you have a wife and a girlfriend, and you need more? Maybe you need something besides more pussy.
BBB's methodology is sound, give it a shot.
[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]OK OK - now you have clarified things a bit.
The best advice I could give you is go to Maggies early in the week - Sun, Mon, Tue or Wed night - take out something that takes your fancy.
Pay her the 'normal' fee first time - RMB800.
Treat her VERY VERY well - like she really is SPECIAL - if she provides what you want - then negotiate again for future visits to yours and her mutual satisfaction.
If the first night is no good - go and repeat over and over until you get what you want.
I have 4 or 5 'regulars' who visit me daytime / evening in hotel at 'reasonable' rates - always first class service and we are BOTH happy.
It aint that complicated - do a bit of leg work and it will happen for you.[/QUOTE]
This is very good all-around advice. Treat the girls like humans and with a bit of respect, and you will usually be treated the same way.
Thank you for your comment, but what are you trying to indicate with the remark 'something besides more pussy'? Are you possibly suggesting to have a boy instead? Please clarify.
The Fox at your service
[QUOTE=Intransit]I agree and disagree with Albert Punter. Fox, you have a wife and a girlfriend, and you need more? Maybe you need something besides more pussy.
BBB's methodology is sound, give it a shot.[/QUOTE]
Well, I have a negative report from Beijing.
Arrived in the Capitol city this afternoon. Took a cab from the airport to my hotel - The Landmark. It has been previously recommended as a girl friendly hotel.
After showering, getting caught up on some emails, and taking a bit of Viagra (I had just come in from the US and thought I would need the lift), I headed over to the HRC about 10:00.
There was not alot of play there at that time, but there was one gorgeous Eurasian babe with whom I exchanged smiles. I took a seat at the bar and eventually she joined me. She was about 5'9" with perfect breasts and of Russian/Chinese origin. I love Eurasian mixes and thought I hit the jackpot. We hit it off well and agreed on the standard 800 rmb.
About 11:15 we headed out to my room. I always give the girl my room number in advance in case of questions. Well, we were stopped at the elevators to the Landmark by security. They were adamant about not letting her up to the room. I offered to register her (and the scene was mildly embarassing), and it was no go. The kept repeating that no guests were allowed to be registered in the room or allowed in the room after 11 pm. Frankly, I was a bit taken aback as this had not happened to me in China in over 8 years when I actually checked in with someone (a girlfriend), and they would not allow her up to the room.
One of the problems is that I don't think the girl had proper ID on her, but the Landmark staff was pretty adamant that she was not coming to my room.
The end of the story is that we walked out of the hotel, exchanged phone numbers (I gave her 100 rmb for her efforts) and promised to meet at 6 am. Meanwhile, I was really psyched up about this particular p4p (and I rarely get that way about any p4p chick), and now I may just have to search the forum for a nearby onsite locale. Someone had mentioned a bar where they had rooms and I wish I had remembered that for this instance.
Regardless, I would not recommend the Landmark if you have any intention of mongering here in Beijing.
[QUOTE=Softy]Well, I have a negative report from Beijing.
Arrived in the Capitol city this afternoon. Took a cab from the airport to my hotel - The Landmark. It has been previously recommended as a girl friendly hotel.
After showering, getting caught up on some emails, and taking a bit of Viagra (I had just come in from the US and thought I would need the lift), I headed over to the HRC about 10:00.
There was not alot of play there at that time, but there was one gorgeous Eurasian babe with whom I exchanged smiles. I took a seat at the bar and eventually she joined me. She was about 5'9" with perfect breasts and of Russian/Chinese origin. I love Eurasian mixes and thought I hit the jackpot. We hit it off well and agreed on the standard 800 rmb.
About 11:15 we headed out to my room. I always give the girl my room number in advance in case of questions. Well, we were stopped at the elevators to the Landmark by security. They were adamant about not letting her up to the room. I offered to register her (and the scene was mildly embarassing), and it was no go. The kept repeating that no guests were allowed to be registered in the room or allowed in the room after 11 pm. Frankly, I was a bit taken aback as this had not happened to me in China in over 8 years when I actually checked in with someone (a girlfriend), and they would not allow her up to the room.
One of the problems is that I don't think the girl had proper ID on her, but the Landmark staff was pretty adamant that she was not coming to my room.
The end of the story is that we walked out of the hotel, exchanged phone numbers (I gave her 100 rmb for her efforts) and promised to meet at 6 am. Meanwhile, I was really psyched up about this particular p4p (and I rarely get that way about any p4p chick), and now I may just have to search the forum for a nearby onsite locale. Someone had mentioned a bar where they had rooms and I wish I had remembered that for this instance.
Regardless, I would not recommend the Landmark if you have any intention of mongering here in Beijing.[/QUOTE]
Softy and others - once again you need to do your reserach.
In several posts I have clearly indicated to avoid both Landmark and Sheraton as they will on MOST occasions refuse you entry after 11pm.
I do sympathise with you - I hate this practice and it really does stuff your night.
Next time stay at Kunlun Hotel - just around corner from Landmark - a bit more pricey but contact them directly and ask for CHEAPEST ALL INCLUSIVE price and you should get about RMB1,100 weekends or RMB1,300 weekdays.
Better luck next time mate.
[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]Softy and others - once again you need to do your reserach.
In several posts I have clearly indicated to avoid both Landmark and Sheraton as they will on MOST occasions refuse you entry after 11pm.
I do sympathise with you - I hate this practice and it really does stuff your night.
Next time stay at Kunlun Hotel - just around corner from Landmark - a bit more pricey but contact them directly and ask for CHEAPEST ALL INCLUSIVE price and you should get about RMB1,100 weekends or RMB1,300 weekdays.
Better luck next time mate.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the info on Aagi & Belgi, I hope to find them when I hit Beijing.
Before you tell me to RTFF, I was not able to find any info on the Lee Garden Serviced Apartments. Is it a good place to stay? Also (and most importantly), is it GF?
House
[QUOTE=House]Thanks for the info on Aagi & Belgi, I hope to find them when I hit Beijing.
Before you tell me to RTFF, I was not able to find any info on the Lee Garden Serviced Apartments. Is it a good place to stay? Also (and most importantly), is it GF?
House[/QUOTE]
Mate NFI - I know nothing about it.
But I assume if they are actually 'serviced apertments' you should not have a prob - Sammy or Intransit or another local may know.
[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]Softy and others - once again you need to do your reserach.
In several posts I have clearly indicated to avoid both Landmark and Sheraton as they will on MOST occasions refuse you entry after 11pm.
I do sympathise with you - I hate this practice and it really does stuff your night.
Next time stay at Kunlun Hotel - just around corner from Landmark - a bit more pricey but contact them directly and ask for CHEAPEST ALL INCLUSIVE price and you should get about RMB1,100 weekends or RMB1,300 weekdays.
Better luck next time mate.[/QUOTE]
Thanks Bad Boy.
I did see some posts that indicated the Landmark was girl friendly, but did not see yours indicating that it was not, unfortunately. Thanks for the recommendation. I normally stay at the Hilton and have never had a problem. I stayed at the Landmark to try to save a bit, and it, obviously, did not work out. I will try the Kunlun next week.
Postscipt to the story, the girl showed up at 6 am as promised and I am now off to my next destination satisfied.
Thanks again Bad Boy.
[QUOTE=House]Before you tell me to RTFF, I was not able to find any info on the Lee Garden Serviced Apartments. Is it a good place to stay? Also (and most importantly), is it GF?
House[/QUOTE]Most service apartments are GF. Guards often pretend they didn't see you when you go in with a girl.
I actually managed to catch a 30+ freebie in one of my recent stay. I met her in the elevator and asked her if she liked to have dinner together. After dinner, I invited her to my room for a drink because she was staying in the same apartment. She agreed. To cut the story short, we made out and she was extremely wet & horny. Very nice GFE session. So you can be daring in the service apartment too. Many female locals traveling from other cities often stay in service apartments. BTW, you must speak some broken Potunghua to attract them.
[QUOTE=Softy]Thanks Bad Boy.
I did see some posts that indicated the Landmark was girl friendly, but did not see yours indicating that it was not, unfortunately. Thanks for the recommendation. I normally stay at the Hilton and have never had a problem. I stayed at the Landmark to try to save a bit, and it, obviously, did not work out. I will try the Kunlun next week.
[/QUOTE]
As a rule of thumb, the more stars a hotel has (and the more money it costs) the higher its gfriendlyness. In China (and not only in China,) you can always try to drop a tip on the guard, a smoother transaction than registering a short-time guest.
The more sophisticated ladies working the Great Wall hotel circuit usually have a change of sedate clothes. That (and a tip if she comes often) usually gets her by the guard. Just don't waltz in with a babe in hot pants and her boobs hanging out. (In more sophisticated markets, the girls also carry a stash of the approriate key cards ... but this practice hasn't made it to China - yet.)
Decent hotels such as the Hyatt or the Hilton won't dare to disturb the well-being of their paid guests. If you stay there often, the concierge or bellman will even see to your well-being .... just keep it smooth and discrete.
Many Chinese hotels have their in-house operations (a "health club" and a KTV on premises) and they try to keep out the competition. Again, a small donation to the guard may change things. If it doesn't, change hotels.
The Landmark and the Sheraton may be special cases. Both are in a district which is often mobbed by very aggressive touts. I hate having business meetings at the Landmark, because sometimes the taxi can't even get through the throngs of touts, and twice I had to physically remove one who came through the taxi door ... The Sheraton, home of the pricey Passion, has own business interests to protect also ...
One more item: In an international hotel, it sometimes helps to request the manager to come to your room immediately. Don't argue with the guard. Politely get the guard's name - write it down in front of him. Then go to your room, don't waltz to the front desk. Call for the manager to come to your room. Sit him down and tell him brazenly that a stupid guard by the name of ..... ruined your evening, and that you lost money, and that you are highly dissatisfied, and that you will change hotels tomorrow. You appreciate the hotel's concern for the security and safety of the guests. But management also must care to the well-being of same. Yadda, yadda. I did that once or twice, and it worked miracles.
PS: Another brazen approach is to inform the front desk that you want "the second breakfast and the video on demand on a separate bill" when you check out. That tells them that you are a professional player who's not to be trifled with. If they don't get it, change hotels.
FYI, rumors that Maggie's will be closed during the Olympics are ... well ... just rumors. Actually, they are unfounded garbage.
To the sounds of "We built this city on rock'n'oll" ISG conducted an exclusive live interview with a representative of Maggie's management.
ISG: "People say, you will close down during the Olympics."
M: "How many drinks have you had already?"
ISG: "Answer the question."
M: "We'll be wide open."
ISG: "Wide open, but all Mongolians will be sent to Ulan Bator?"
M: "Easy on the alcohol. The place will be in full operation. Actually, we will expand the place shortly to allow for more guests."
Well folks, there you have it. Soon, there will be a little drywall work in the back, and the bar will be made a bit longer.
During a spot check tonight, this reporter saw many new and pretty faces, both behind the bar and along the walls. Some real stunners were spotted.
Like all BJ establishments, Maggie's has its up and downs. It's definitely in its 'up' phase now, in all respects of the word.
I've had inconsistent results with both Landmark and Sheraton. Somewhat slightly better with Sheraton, though. The best was when the particular Maggie's girl carried ME into the hotel since I had lost severely while playing the 'dice game' !! It also depends who is staying at the hotel. For example if there is a foreign delegation that may have sensitive government guests, you'll find it more difficult. If you come to Beijing to play, then I suggest staying in the 3-4star business hotels that cater more to Chinese businessmen. There are many in town, and some are definitely as good as the 5 star ones. The prices are right, too - once I rented the entire top floor wing ( 6 rooms) for less than a single night at Traders!
[QUOTE=Soujourn]I've had inconsistent results with both Landmark and Sheraton. Somewhat slightly better with Sheraton, though. The best was when the particular Maggie's girl carried ME into the hotel since I had lost severely while playing the 'dice game' !! It also depends who is staying at the hotel. For example if there is a foreign delegation that may have sensitive government guests, you'll find it more difficult. If you come to Beijing to play, then I suggest staying in the 3-4star business hotels that cater more to Chinese businessmen. There are many in town, and some are definitely as good as the 5 star ones. The prices are right, too - once I rented the entire top floor wing ( 6 rooms) for less than a single night at Traders![/QUOTE]
I have been to Beijing numerous times, but have only been in a position to monger a few times. It appears that the "girl friendliness" of a hotel is a big issue to enjoying oneself on a visit to monger there. Maybe we should start a definitive list of hotels and their "girl friendliness".
My own personal experience is in three hotels.
Hilton: Several mongering experiences and never hassled with a girl, even late at night.
Landmark: One experience and one rejection.
Sheraton: One experience and no problem, but others have indicated many problems bringing girls into the rooms.
So...
Hilton = Girl Friendly
Sheraton = Not Girl Friendly
Landmark = Not Girl Friendly
I would be happy to develop a list, but would need the participation of some of the Beijing regulars (although the quality of the girls will have me coming to Beijing more frequently...LOL).
[QUOTE=Zhuren] In China (and not only in China,) you can always try to drop a tip on the guard, a smoother transaction than registering a short-time guest.
.[/QUOTE]
That's not a tip, that's a bribe. And when he stops guests who didn't pay, that's extortion.
[QUOTE=Santa]That's not a tip, that's a bribe. And when he stops guests who didn't pay, that's extortion.[/QUOTE]
True, we must always take the moral high road ....
Actually, I think it's more accurate to say -- 'Thats China'. Since the staffs of any Hotel or service are very low paid any money that they can receive extra of their salary is welcome. And for that little extra they will accomplish many positive things for the gift giver. Including easing of the bureaucratic restrictions, plenty of extra towels, good food service or even that perfect '3 am massage' . Personally I prefer to be off on the right step with my doorman and concierge from the moment I arrive.
As for posting a list of hotels - hmmmm. YMMV since many things come into play. Th official rules are quite strong on this policy of no guests after 11. So - any relaxing of this policy is based on a case by case basis by the hotel staff. Combined with crackdowns, other visitors, the guest's attitude, KTV competition, etc etc , there will always be some variation.
For example in the Sheraton I've probably had better than 88% positive experience, and where I had any issues, they could be solved rather quickly with the doorman or manager. In the Landmark the situation is a little more difficult. I even had problems with my Chinese GF - but again, they were solved after careful explanation of the circumstance.
By and large, if you are polite, firm and confident then you'll have no problem working out any issues. On the woman side it always helps to make sure she is dressed properly like any other guest on a 'dinner date'. It also doesn't hurt for her to have a small briefcase. Another tip - if you KNOW you are going to have evening guests in your room, AND you are staying in a grand hotel, then you should definitely pre-register for a second occupant. You will avoid many of the hassles.
[QUOTE=Softy]I have been to Beijing numerous times, but have only been in a position to monger a few times. It appears that the "girl friendliness" of a hotel is a big issue to enjoying oneself on a visit to monger there. Maybe we should start a definitive list of hotels and their "girl friendliness".
My own personal experience is in three hotels.
Hilton: Several mongering experiences and never hassled with a girl, even late at night.
Landmark: One experience and one rejection.
Sheraton: One experience and no problem, but others have indicated many problems bringing girls into the rooms.
So...
Hilton = Girl Friendly
Sheraton = Not Girl Friendly
Landmark = Not Girl Friendly
I would be happy to develop a list, but would need the participation of some of the Beijing regulars (although the quality of the girls will have me coming to Beijing more frequently...LOL).[/QUOTE]
Maybe a better idea would be if we could get Admin (Jackson) to add another thread simply titled "Girl-Unfriendly Hotels".
We do not need to list hotels that ARE girl-friendly - saimply those that ARE NOT.
If a series of posts start to indicate continual problems in access for our darlings - then readers can simply cross that hotel off the list.
Whichever way it is done - it would be a wonderful addition to this forum.
I have been refused entry at both Sheraton and Landmark - that was 5 or 6 years ago - NEVER WILL I RETURN.
China World and Kunlun have NEVER EVER challenged me - even with 2 of the most sluttily dressed *****s you could imagine at 3am - thats how it SHOULD BE.
Just my 2c worth.
[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]Maybe a better idea would be if we could get Admin (Jackson) to add another thread simply titled "Girl-Unfriendly Hotels".
We do not need to list hotels that ARE girl-friendly - saimply those that ARE NOT.
If a series of posts start to indicate continual problems in access for our darlings - then readers can simply cross that hotel off the list.
Whichever way it is done - it would be a wonderful addition to this forum.
I have been refused entry at both Sheraton and Landmark - that was 5 or 6 years ago - NEVER WILL I RETURN.
China World and Kunlun have NEVER EVER challenged me - even with 2 of the most sluttily dressed *****s you could imagine at 3am - thats how it SHOULD BE.
Just my 2c worth.[/QUOTE]
Hey Bad Boy , I have heard that the training for WG's is porn films and maybe the papasan teacher getting his free pussy for one week. Then she starts work. What they really need is training films on enthusiasm. In the past 3 years I have spent about one full year in China and never once has enthusiasm except for my translator.
I never did read that book "Happy Hooker" because I am sure there is not one Happy Hooker in this world. This is the nature of the beast. We must learn to deal with it.
Happy mongering , tile man
[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]Maybe a better idea would be if we could get Admin (Jackson) to add another thread simply titled "Girl-Unfriendly Hotels".
We do not need to list hotels that ARE girl-friendly - saimply those that ARE NOT.
If a series of posts start to indicate continual problems in access for our darlings - then readers can simply cross that hotel off the list.
Whichever way it is done - it would be a wonderful addition to this forum.
I have been refused entry at both Sheraton and Landmark - that was 5 or 6 years ago - NEVER WILL I RETURN.
China World and Kunlun have NEVER EVER challenged me - even with 2 of the most sluttily dressed *****s you could imagine at 3am - thats how it SHOULD BE.
Just my 2c worth.[/QUOTE]
That sounds like a perfect format Bad Boy.
[QUOTE=Nosebleed]I have tried this great sauna near Wudaoko a couple times. The massages there have been the best in my short career. It's north of the Xueyuan Lu/Chengfu Lu Intersection, on the eastern side. Bright mirrored place. Definitely classy, but with classy prices.
No. 326 is this Wenzhou girl (7)with a friendly attitude slim, toned figure and a nice pair of firm tits with pink nipples I could not say no too. So I had the 2-1/2 hr w/ breast rub. Damage: 750+80entrance
No. 338 is from Sichuan, but when I was with her, she told me her breasts were tender from giving birth recently. Otherwise, was very friendly. Back then, it was a bit cheaper. They raised the price later. But it was 450 for 2hrs +80entrance.
This Business club is also a great place to sleepover if you're not bothered by the com***al room. You have clean sofas that lean back, TV, and snacks. Drinks are extra. The massage rooms also can be rented for the night for 200. These rooms really could be 5star hotel rooms except they don't have bathrooms. If you want the bathroom, you probably will find one at the executive room. I never tried. but that was 300, I think.
All in all, they've got some sweet techniques and super clean rooms. I don't mind it not being fs.[/QUOTE]
Made attempts on two different dates but couldn't find the place. Please throw us more clues reagrding its location.
[QUOTE=Tile Man4]Hey Bad Boy , I have heard that the training for WG's is porn films and maybe the papasan teacher getting his free pussy for one week. Then she starts work. What they really need is training films on enthusiasm. In the past 3 years I have spent about one full year in China and never once has enthusiasm except for my translator.
I never did read that book "Happy Hooker" because I am sure there is not one Happy Hooker in this world. This is the nature of the beast. We must learn to deal with it.
Happy mongering , tile man[/QUOTE]
Easy on the blanket statements, Tile-Man.
- First off, this is - was - a thread on hotels, not on training sessions, you've "heard" of. (In any case, the mamasan is more prevalent in China than the pimp anyway.)
- Second, if you've never found enthusiasm, then you need to get out some more, or change your attitude. Treat them nicely, and often (not always) you will get nicer treatment.
- Third, the statement that "there is no Happy Hooker in this world" is unadulterated BS.
Working girls are humans, and they are as diverse as humans are.
Just because you found someone who's an idiot doesn't mean that all mankind consists of idiots.
In my life studies, I've seen them all: Heroin-hos, uninterested robots, mistreated girls with a pimp who's done time for murder, professionals with a hard pro attitude, enthusiastic givers, girls who kept me up all night to do it again and again, housewives who "combine the pleasurable with the useful."
I've met the good, the bad, and the ugly. I've met several guys who married a WG (falling in love is an occupational hazard) and who lead a happy life.
I've even met - and this may amaze you - women who do it for the mere kicks of it. The latter is more prevalent than you may imagine.
I know of a group of MILFs in Northern New Jersey wo do tricks in the afternoon - because it excites them.
"Call girl" is a common fetish amongst upper class submissives. I know several society women, one of blue-blooded pedigree, who once a month morph into a sleazy hooker, because it excites them. Often, their husbands know about it and get a kick out of it too. I know a woman banker in Berlin who has a strong call girl fetish. And when her husband refused to "pay" 50 Euro for a blow-job, she divorced him, and [URL=http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/frames_e.htm]signed up with a fancy escort agency (she somewhere on that page, won't say which one[/URL] . She's a buttoned-up banker during the day, and one of the wildest of the team at night.
These are rare gems, and like with gems, you have to shovel through a lot of dirt to find one. Start shoveling. ISG will give you some clues of where to dig.
[QUOTE=Mojo888]Here are three saunas in in Chaoyang area of Beijing. All are close by to each other. Start from Zhaolong Hotel, which is on corner of 3rd Ring Rd. East and Gongti Bei Rd, the same road that the Sanlitun Bar Street is on. Continue east from Zhaolong Hotel (the direction of 4th Ring Rd). When you cross 3rd Ring Rd. the road name changes from Gonti Bei Rd to somethng else. Not sure what it is, but continue east and pass over 4th Ring Rd. Past 4th Ring, turn RIGHT at the second traffic light. Then, on the left side of the road, about 100 meters down the road, is a big sauna place. At this place they offer a massage/blow job/breast massage combo for around RMB300-350. Nice clean upscale place. The girls vary month to month. Always best to decline and see the next one if you don't like the one they bring.
The second sauna: from the one just described, continue about 30 meters or so and make the first right turn. Then the sauna is on the right about 50 meters down the road. This place isn't as upscale, but they have FS for 400 and generally a good selection.For RMB600 you also get blow job and extra fake moaning; for 800 add on breast massage and sweet whispers in your ear.
Also, there is a third sauna in this area: from the first sauna described, continue straight ahead (south) on the road, past the intersection, and it's on the right around 100 meters down the road. Services are similar to the first sauna described. And a bit cheaper. RMB250? Haven't been there in a while though so don't quote me on that.
Enjoy.[/QUOTE]
While I could find the first one described above, I couldn't find the second and the third one despite extensive search.
Any further suggestions.
Again this is a late report as I was in Beijing at the beginning of June. Heard a lot about Mongolian girls at the PIG and Maggies so decided to go to one of those places. I chose the PIG as I thought it's a bit further away so I would not bump into my colleagues or anyone I knew. I stayed at the Westin in Finance Street but the taxi trip was quite far to the PIG (inside the Liddo Hotel) which was almost half way to the airport. As this was only my third or fourth time in Beijing, I wouldn't have a clue. Next time I should try Maggies which is closer. Arrived at the PIG after a long drive (must have costed me RMB 100) and no surprise there were a lot of gals. Some Chinese, some Mongolians and a few Russians, I believed. Found this Mongolian girl at the bar counter by herself so started talking to her. She's not the best looking but out of curiosity, I would like a Mongolian for takeout for the evening so after agreeing on the price, we headed back to my hotel. She's a good talker and told me she was from UB. She lost her virg... to her boyfriend at 19 but one day, she found out that her best friend was banging her boyfriend and she got really mad and dumped both of them. She told me she has a regular in Beijing now, a Scottish gentleman whose girlfriend is at home. I didn't see any difference between this relationship and the one she had with her old boyfriend in UB. Anyway, that's not my business. We did the usual after we got back to my hotel and I had a great time. She smoked and drank a least 4 bottles of beers which I found amazing. Anyway, I achieved what I wanted to achieve so may be next time when I'm in Beijing, I'll go to pay Maggies a visit.
SM.
[QUOTE=Tile Man4]Hey Bad Boy , I have heard that the training for WG's is porn films and maybe the papasan teacher getting his free pussy for one week. Then she starts work. What they really need is training films on enthusiasm. In the past 3 years I have spent about one full year in China and never once has enthusiasm except for my translator.
I never did read that book "Happy Hooker" because I am sure there is not one Happy Hooker in this world. This is the nature of the beast. We must learn to deal with it.
Happy mongering , tile man[/QUOTE]
Whatever mate.
I have no idea what you have been smoking, inhaling or chewing - but I would like to try it!!
[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]Maybe a better idea would be if we could get Admin (Jackson) to add another thread simply titled "Girl-Unfriendly Hotels".
We do not need to list hotels that ARE girl-friendly - saimply those that ARE NOT.
If a series of posts start to indicate continual problems in access for our darlings - then readers can simply cross that hotel off the list.
Whichever way it is done - it would be a wonderful addition to this forum.
I have been refused entry at both Sheraton and Landmark - that was 5 or 6 years ago - NEVER WILL I RETURN.
China World and Kunlun have NEVER EVER challenged me - even with 2 of the most sluttily dressed *****s you could imagine at 3am - thats how it SHOULD BE.
Just my 2c worth.[/QUOTE]
This sounds like a good idea. I have spent quite a bit of time on the phone trying to determine GF-ness of hotels. Found a couple good ones. My inquiries on GF-ness of hotels were un-answered in this thread. I believe they simply were lost among many other posts. So, I support the idea of having a thread on GF hotels/apartments.
[QUOTE=Great Wall]While I could find the first one described above, I couldn't find the second and the third one despite extensive search.
Any further suggestions.[/QUOTE]
Is there a subway station near by?
[QUOTE=S Times]Is there a subway station near by?[/QUOTE]
I just found KFC as stated in the original post. The first one is just before KFC. No SUBWAY I found.
I had exactly same experiences.
I can only add that I have had many repeat WG in different locations around the world, meaning they were more than enthusiatic and GFE in all senses: GirlFriendExperience and GreatFuckingExperience.
[QUOTE=Zhuren]
...
- Second, if you've never found enthusiasm, then you need to get out some more, or change your attitude. Treat them nicely, and often (not always) you will get nicer treatment.
...
In my life studies, I've seen them all: Heroin-hos, uninterested robots, mistreated girls with a pimp who's done time for murder, professionals with a hard pro attitude, enthusiastic givers, girls who kept me up all night to do it again and again, housewives who "combine the pleasurable with the useful."
I've met the good, the bad, and the ugly.
...
[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Great Wall]Made attempts on two different dates but couldn't find the place. Please throw us more clues reagrding its location.[/QUOTE]Nosebleed was probably talking about the Lang Tao Sha Spa. The directions he gave made sense to me, but then again I live in the area. To elaborate, the address is
北京市海淀区学院路6号
NO. 6 Xueyuan Road
Haidian District, Beijing
It's across the street from the east gate of the Beijing Language and Culture University. From the Wudaokou subway station, you head east on Chengfu Road until you reach Xueyuan Road. Then head north (should be making a left) until you pass a pedestrian bridge overhead. It should be immediately to your right.
If you still have trouble, here's some more info:
phone: (010)82396988
fax: (010)82396388
website: [url]www.langtaos.com[/url]
And if that doesn't help, I'll lead you there myself.... :D
Also to elaborate a little bit on Nosebleed's report:
From what I've found from the one time I've been there, you need to do at least an hour massage before they offer "additional services". The prices, at least for the first hour, vary depending on what type of massage you want. The actual prices can be found on the website. As for additional services, I did not end up accepting the offer. From what I remember it was to be an additional 300RMB or so for the next hour. Also there is an entrance charge as Nosebleed mentions, which I guess is 80RMB.
Hello there,
I used to visit Maggie quite frequently - and I can only say good words - be patient and you’ll get it - also for 500
Now I am situated in the North by the Olympic rowing park (Shunyi) and I can’t find where to start. Can you please give a clue?
Thanks,
Tony
Lang Tao Sha Spa was one of my first Beijing mongering experiences. The spa area (showers, tubs, etc.) was better than many and the rooms were very pleasant with large beds. You can order the deluxe package with the host as soon as you get to the room. If I remember, total charges came to around 1,100 kuai.
Providers I had were all 6-7 on looks, about the same on service. No FS available. It wasn't until I saw one outside that this was possible. As far as I can tell, the management must check the girl's kits to make sure that they don't have any condoms. Twice I got CBJ, once with a sandwich baggie and once with shrink-wrap. Once, I just laid back and enjoyed what I thought was a great BBBJ. It turned out to be a neat trick with baby oil and using the crook between her chin and her neck.
All in all - won't repeat now that I know of better options.
[QUOTE=Joe Chen]
Also to elaborate a little bit on Nosebleed's report:
From what I've found from the one time I've been there, you need to do at least an hour massage before they offer "additional services". The prices, at least for the first hour, vary depending on what type of massage you want. The actual prices can be found on the website. As for additional services, I did not end up accepting the offer. From what I remember it was to be an additional 300RMB or so for the next hour. Also there is an entrance charge as Nosebleed mentions, which I guess is 80RMB.[/QUOTE]
Thanx. Any idea what I tell them for the extra services. I had a bad experience at The Bigeast Ocean Gymnastic Club (200m east of Huawei Bridge). This place has a huge sauna. They didn't have the English menu and I went for the most expensive service there. After the shower I was taken to a private room. After a while a boy in white coat with a big medical box/kit arrived. I had no idea what was going on and immediately left the place.
The point is I didn't ask for the right service and the most expensive service may not be the right service that we are looking for.
Please advise what I tell them. I have no Mandarin skills.
Looks like I'll be staying in the Gulou area on my little excursion. Does anyone have any recommendations for areas nearby?
....I saw your post. Thanks for putting a smile on my face and making me laugh out loud...
Here's hoping your next experience blows your mind...in the right way, of course. ;-)
Cheers
Cooler
[QUOTE=Beijingrichard] All in all - won't repeat now that I know of better options.[/QUOTE]
What better options do you have now?
[QUOTE=Great Wall]After the shower I was taken to a private room. After a while a boy in white coat with a big medical box/kit arrived. I had no idea what was going on and immediately left the place.
[/QUOTE]
Ha, ha. That was the pedicure ....
[QUOTE=Zabadak 55]Now I am situated in the North by the Olympic rowing park (Shunyi) and I can’t find where to start. Can you please give a clue?[/QUOTE]The taxi rank!! If you live in ShunYi then you have two options. The lowest of the lowst knocking shops which target the country farm boys. No thanks!! otherwise its a trip into town I would say.
Talking of the lowest of the lowest, I was down LangFang on business the other day and on exiting the toll gate to come into to the town (trading estate) the two chinese guys in the car confirmed immediatley that there is a "red light" area if you take the first right. We did not go, so I cannot expand, but I may have to go back this week, so I will at least try and get them to drive past to see how bad it looks!
Sid
Sorry Great Wall. Just a few recently reported here: ChunXiu lu and one on the south side. I really haven't found anything worthwhile in the Haidian area.
Thanks Sid for your support. I could't find the massage place. I walked around the city center. Many barber shops but they are quite inocent. So I did what I had to do. Took a taxi driver. Paid him 20 rmb and he took me on a one hour tour. Showing me so many places. With some nice girls. Price. Around 500 for full service. I got so tired that I skipped the action and saved it for another day.
Thanks again,
Tony
[QUOTE=SidTheSexist]The taxi rank!! If you live in ShunYi then you have two options. The lowest of the lowst knocking shops which target the country farm boys. No thanks!! otherwise its a trip into town I would say.
Talking of the lowest of the lowest, I was down LangFang on business the other day and on exiting the toll gate to come into to the town (trading estate) the two chinese guys in the car confirmed immediatley that there is a "red light" area if you take the first right. We did not go, so I cannot expand, but I may have to go back this week, so I will at least try and get them to drive past to see how bad it looks!
Sid[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Great Wall]Thanx. Any idea what I tell them for the extra services. I had a bad experience at The Bigeast Ocean Gymnastic Club (200m east of Huawei Bridge). This place has a huge sauna. They didn't have the English menu and I went for the most expensive service there. After the shower I was taken to a private room. After a while a boy in white coat with a big medical box/kit arrived. I had no idea what was going on and immediately left the place.
The point is I didn't ask for the right service and the most expensive service may not be the right service that we are looking for.
Please advise what I tell them. I have no Mandarin skills.[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear about your previous experience. As far as I know, all of the providers at Lang Tao Sha should be female (at least in the men's section). After the shower, you head up the elevator to the men's floor. Once there, a guy should greet you and ask what service you want (he should be the host). I did end up picking the most expensive one (the 328RMB one I think), but as far as I can tell I don't think it matters which service you start out with first. The service you order should always be a regular massage, and it will only be towards the end of the massage that the provider will ask if you want additional services. I don't think you should have any trouble getting them to offer you more. I had a French friend who went there for all the wrong reasons (went hiking that day, sore muscles, actually wanted a massage). The massages there are somewhat touchy-feely, so he was pretty shocked when the provider started massaging his chest and ass. This lead to a growing problem of another sort, and the provider offered to take care of it if he got another session. I would caution that you make sure of the cost of this additional session. If you have trouble communicating in Chinese, I think hand signals would work well enough to know how much you can expect to pay at the end, in additional to the first session and the entrance fee. Oh and for your information, they accept cash and UnionPay cards, but no Visa/Mastercard/AMEX.
That's about it from my experience at this place. The deluxe package that BeijingRichard mentioned a couple of posts back intrigues me, but I have no idea how to order it. I would invite BeijingRichard to add in any other comments or advice that I missed, especially since he has been there quite a few more times than I have.
And lastly for your amusement, I've taken the list from their website and translated all the services that I understand. I also added pinyin in case you know how to pronounce it. Otherwise, you can just memorize the prices and point to the one you want on the menu. I don't think they have English menus, but I remember that the host I had spoke a little English.
SPA 减压疗法 328 元 /90 minutes
梦幻之恋 268 元 /45 minutes
泰式按摩 258 元 /60 minutes
清宫火疗 228 元 /60 minutes
中式按摩 158 元 /45 minutes
泰式足道 98 元 /60 minutes
香薰足疗 68 元 /45 minutes
头部按摩 68 元 /45 minutes
局部按摩 68 元 /30 minutes
修脚 58 元 / no time limit
刮痧 58 元 / no time limit
拔罐 58 元 / no time limit
捏脚 58 元 / no time limit
刮脚 58 元 / no time limit
采耳 58 元 / no time limit
Whoops, accidentally pressed the enter key a bit too early. I just read the FAQ and saw that I won't be able to edit my post, so here's the list again:
SPA 减压疗法 jian3ya1 liao2fa3 328 RMB /90 minutes
SPA reduced pressure therapy
梦幻之恋 meng4huan4 zhi1lian4 268 RMB /45 minutes
泰式按摩 tai4shi4 an4mo2 258 RMB /60 minutes
Thai-style massage
清宫火疗 qing1gong1 huo3liao2 228 RMB /60 minutes
中式按摩 zhong1shi4 an4mo2 158 RMB /45 minutes
Chinese-style massage
泰式足道 tai4shi4 zu2dao4 98 RMB /60 minutes
Thai-style foot massage?
香薰足疗 xiang1xun1 zu2liao2 68 RMB /45 minutes
Some sort of foot massage
头部按摩 tou2bu4 an4mo2 68 RMB /45 minutes
Forehead massage
局部按摩 ju2bu4 an4mo2 68 RMB /30 minutes
Partial massage
There were a few more after this, but I got really weirded out after that. Some of them were like pinching your feet or picking out your earwax and stuff.
[QUOTE=Beijingrichard]Sorry Great Wall. Just a few recently reported here: ChunXiu lu and one on the south side. I really haven't found anything worthwhile in the Haidian area.[/QUOTE]
I have already tried both but liked the sauna on the south side.
Joe,
Thanks for your detailed report.
Could you please tell us more details about the additional service Lang Tao Sha is providing? HJ? FS? BJ?
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Joe Chen]Sorry to hear about your previous experience. As far as I know, all of the providers at Lang Tao Sha should be female (at least in the men's section). After the shower, you head up the elevator to the men's floor. Once there, a guy should greet you and ask what service you want (he should be the host). I did end up picking the most expensive one (the 328RMB one I think), but as far as I can tell I don't think it matters which service you start out with first. The service you order should always be a regular massage, and it will only be towards the end of the massage that the provider will ask if you want additional services. I don't think you should have any trouble getting them to offer you more. I had a French friend who went there for all the wrong reasons (went hiking that day, sore muscles, actually wanted a massage). The massages there are somewhat touchy-feely, so he was pretty shocked when the provider started massaging his chest and ass. This lead to a growing problem of another sort, and the provider offered to take care of it if he got another session. I would caution that you make sure of the cost of this additional session. If you have trouble communicating in Chinese, I think hand signals would work well enough to know how much you can expect to pay at the end, in additional to the first session and the entrance fee. Oh and for your information, they accept cash and UnionPay cards, but no Visa/Mastercard/AMEX.
That's about it from my experience at this place. The deluxe package that BeijingRichard mentioned a couple of posts back intrigues me, but I have no idea how to order it. I would invite BeijingRichard to add in any other comments or advice that I missed, especially since he has been there quite a few more times than I have.
And lastly for your amusement, I've taken the list from their website and translated all the services that I understand. I also added pinyin in case you know how to pronounce it. Otherwise, you can just memorize the prices and point to the one you want on the menu. I don't think they have English menus, but I remember that the host I had spoke a little English.
SPA 减压疗法 328 元 /90 minutes
梦幻之恋 268 元 /45 minutes
泰式按摩 258 元 /60 minutes
清宫火疗 228 元 /60 minutes
中式按摩 158 元 /45 minutes
泰式足道 98 元 /60 minutes
香薰足疗 68 元 /45 minutes
头部按摩 68 元 /45 minutes
局部按摩 68 元 /30 minutes
修脚 58 元 / no time limit
刮痧 58 元 / no time limit
拔罐 58 元 / no time limit
捏脚 58 元 / no time limit
刮脚 58 元 / no time limit
采耳 58 元 / no time limit[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DogRice]Thank you for great report from Mojo888.
I took a quick shower and the changing boy wanted to sell expensive PJ. Fortunately, my limited Mandarin helped me out to take the cheapest PJ. [/QUOTE]
Selling PJ in sauna seems to be standard thing in BJ. I also has the same experience. I told them using sign language either I go upstairs in towel or leave the sauna but won't buy PJ. The buggers then gave me the free one.
[QUOTE=Sammy_T]Sniffer -
Yes, that's it! The Shi Yi right across the street from the Da Zhong electornics store. It really is not bad at all, but it is a step down from the Chun Xiu Lu sauna. Anyone acustom to local places will not have a problem with it, but someone on their first visit to Beijing might raise their eyebrows a little.
The first time I went they brought in the girls one at a time, but let me keep seeing different girls until I saw one I liked. The other 2 times they brought in a small line-up of 5 girls and let me pick. I am not sure if they had other girls in reserve as each time I picked from the first group.
I hope this helps. If you check it out let me know.
Sammy[/QUOTE]
I can confirm FS is available at this sauna but quality is not that good as you find at sauna on Majiapu Rd but so is the price - only Y 600 quoted but is negotiable. The manager Mike Ho speaks little English and can be of help.
[QUOTE=SidTheSexist]The taxi rank!! If you live in ShunYi then you have two options. The lowest of the lowst knocking shops which target the country farm boys. No thanks!! otherwise its a trip into town I would say.
Talking of the lowest of the lowest, I was down LangFang on business the other day and on exiting the toll gate to come into to the town (trading estate) the two chinese guys in the car confirmed immediatley that there is a "red light" area if you take the first right. We did not go, so I cannot expand, but I may have to go back this week, so I will at least try and get them to drive past to see how bad it looks!
Sid[/QUOTE]I've been here twice. Actually pretty nice FS for 100 RMB and some of them are real nice too! Enjoy. Maybe I can catch a ride with you ne4xt time
[QUOTE=Yelper]Thought I'd give the girls at WangJing MP a break, as I've been using the July discount quite a bit the last couple of weeks, and went back to a place I hadn't been to in awhile - the MP in Tower B (2510) of Sunshine 100. I've tried a number of the girls there, but keep coming back to number 1 - a neimonguoren, cute smile, decent A-cups, will let you finger her while you're getting your HJ. They only offer HJs at this place, and it is expensive (~280 RMB for a 90 minute massage, plus 200 for the HJ), but the massage itself is actually acceptable.
Details:
Xin Yue Xing Cheng Massage Center (心悦星城 ) - Sunshine 100, Tower B 2510.
Apparently (from Thats BJ or Cityweekend - can't remember which) there's an MP in Tower A - second floor, I believe. Has anyone tried it? Also, the one on 2nd or 3rd floor of Tower E used to be totally legit, but has some dodgy-looking adverts in the magazines, so will make my way back there at some point, or will perhaps try across the street at SOHO where there's been some good reports in this forum.
I must get out at some point and try some of the other MPs in WangJing as well. Will do next week, report back. Or, more likely, I'll wait till the July sale at 419 is over and then start exploring :-)[/QUOTE]I visited the place quite a few times and love it especially No. 16 is great value ! Didn't know about the July sales though! Can you please eleborate on that?
Thnx,
DB
I had the pleasure of my first Maggies' experience in quite some time on this past Tuesday.
With my passion for Eurasian types, I must say that Maggie's rightfully deserves its designation as a shrine to many. Unfortunately, I had not been there in quite some time. Fortunately, Tuesday night reminded me that my frequency of visits must increase.
I had taken up Bad Boy Billy's suggestion of hotels and stayed at the Kunlun, which I must say is an exceptional hotel choice in terms of value and girl friendlienes. On the way out to Maggies, I was tempted by a petite and attractive Chinese girl in the Lobby who was standing discretely by the elevators. Fate and good fortune allowed me to avoid this particular temptation and I proceeded to exit the hotel and enter a cab bound for Maggies at around 11 pm.
Courtesy of a taxi driver who became completely lost on the way to Maggies, I did not get there until almost one hour later. Other than some very funny exchanges between the driver and I with my limited but conversational Mandarin, there really was no harm as he ultimately did not charge me and things were just getting rolling when I arrived.
Upon entering, I grabbed a beer at the bar and started chatting with one of the Chinese bar girls. She was fun to chat with so I bought her a couple of drinks and practiced my Pu Tong Hua for a bit. She was an excellent instructor whose English was fairly proficient so I was not unhappy with the 160 RMB spent to chat with her awhile. I think I may have been able to hook up with her eventually because she seemed genuinely upset that I wanted a take home - "THOSE MONGOLIANS will leave the bar, but Chinese girls want nice guy" was her comment.
Parting from Kelly (the Chinese girl), I made the rounds a bit, and settled into one of the few open seats at the bar. By this time, around 12:30, the bar was filling up with girls - almost all Mongolian which is quite fine by me. Most of the girls, as usual, were quite provacatively dressed and some downright kinky looking. In general, I prefer the more casual type look as I find that those not overly agressive tend to provide better services. Much to my good fortune of the evening, a slightly built, reasonably tall (about 5'7"), casually dressed chick was sitting next to me. I was still checking out the bar, and we chatted up just a bit. But, she was so casual and unremarkable at first glance, that the conversation was casual. After about 10 minutes, I excused myself to go to the boys room.
Upon cruising back through the bar the only open seat was the one I had vacated, so I sat down - again next to this seemingly unremarkable Mongolian girl. The first thing out of her mouth when I returned was - "I guess that all the pretty girls here make you horny so you have to go to toilet." I laughed my ass off, turned around to face her and took a closer look. And, I liked what I saw - greenish eyes, auburn hair (she claimed the color to be natural), and long legs connected to protruding hips, the girl was had a very subtle sexiness beneath her causalness. 45 minutes of conversation later, we were headed from Maggies to my hotel. When I asked her about services, she responded that she would like to do whatever I wanted. When I asked her about the price, her response was whatever I wanted to pay. Either she was a bit of a newbie or she simply liked me or she has a very unique MO.
Once again, proving my point that the best service is from more causual women in the 6-8 range, the girl was simply terrrific. She had a very slim body (almost extreme), almost no ass, small suckable tits, shaved pussy (after a week in China, this made me happy), and beautiful lips which all added up to a unique and sensual look. She matched that sensual look by a completely passionate preformance from the striptease, to the shower, to the first POP, to the second Pop (for which she awakened me about 2 hours after the first pop with a BBBJ), to the third pop in the morning to the farewell kiss. Excellent BBJ skills, tight pussy, great pussy muscle control, horny, and sopping wet the moment her panties were off.
The whole experience was exceptional, and probably my best lay in China in about a year. As she was leaving, I gave her 1000 RMB and another 50 for taxi fare - and she was quite happy with that. As I pass through HK more than Beijing, the whole experience made me miss the Mongolian participation at Bananas from years ago, made me commit to myself that I had to increase the frequency of my visits to BJ, and reminded me of why I have a passion for Mongolian meat
Hi man,
I just went there tonight but it is member only? How to get the membership?
[QUOTE=Softy]I had the pleasure of my first Maggies' experience in quite some time on this past Tuesday.
With my passion for Eurasian types, I must say that Maggie's rightfully deserves its designation as a shrine to many. Unfortunately, I had not been there in quite some time. Fortunately, Tuesday night reminded me that my frequency of visits must increase.
I had taken up Bad Boy Billy's suggestion of hotels and stayed at the Kunlun, which I must say is an exceptional hotel choice in terms of value and girl friendlienes. On the way out to Maggies, I was tempted by a petite and attractive Chinese girl in the Lobby who was standing discretely by the elevators. Fate and good fortune allowed me to avoid this particular temptation and I proceeded to exit the hotel and enter a cab bound for Maggies at around 11 pm.
Courtesy of a taxi driver who became completely lost on the way to Maggies, I did not get there until almost one hour later. Other than some very funny exchanges between the driver and I with my limited but conversational Mandarin, there really was no harm as he ultimately did not charge me and things were just getting rolling when I arrived.
Upon entering, I grabbed a beer at the bar and started chatting with one of the Chinese bar girls. She was fun to chat with so I bought her a couple of drinks and practiced my Pu Tong Hua for a bit. She was an excellent instructor whose English was fairly proficient so I was not unhappy with the 160 RMB spent to chat with her awhile. I think I may have been able to hook up with her eventually because she seemed genuinely upset that I wanted a take home - "THOSE MONGOLIANS will leave the bar, but Chinese girls want nice guy" was her comment.
Parting from Kelly (the Chinese girl), I made the rounds a bit, and settled into one of the few open seats at the bar. By this time, around 12:30, the bar was filling up with girls - almost all Mongolian which is quite fine by me. Most of the girls, as usual, were quite provacatively dressed and some downright kinky looking. In general, I prefer the more casual type look as I find that those not overly agressive tend to provide better services. Much to my good fortune of the evening, a slightly built, reasonably tall (about 5'7"), casually dressed chick was sitting next to me. I was still checking out the bar, and we chatted up just a bit. But, she was so casual and unremarkable at first glance, that the conversation was casual. After about 10 minutes, I excused myself to go to the boys room.
Upon cruising back through the bar the only open seat was the one I had vacated, so I sat down - again next to this seemingly unremarkable Mongolian girl. The first thing out of her mouth when I returned was - "I guess that all the pretty girls here make you horny so you have to go to toilet." I laughed my ass off, turned around to face her and took a closer look. And, I liked what I saw - greenish eyes, auburn hair (she claimed the color to be natural), and long legs connected to protruding hips, the girl was had a very subtle sexiness beneath her causalness. 45 minutes of conversation later, we were headed from Maggies to my hotel. When I asked her about services, she responded that she would like to do whatever I wanted. When I asked her about the price, her response was whatever I wanted to pay. Either she was a bit of a newbie or she simply liked me or she has a very unique MO.
Once again, proving my point that the best service is from more causual women in the 6-8 range, the girl was simply terrrific. She had a very slim body (almost extreme), almost no ass, small suckable tits, shaved pussy (after a week in China, this made me happy), and beautiful lips which all added up to a unique and sensual look. She matched that sensual look by a completely passionate preformance from the striptease, to the shower, to the first POP, to the second Pop (for which she awakened me about 2 hours after the first pop with a BBBJ), to the third pop in the morning to the farewell kiss. Excellent BBJ skills, tight pussy, great pussy muscle control, horny, and sopping wet the moment her panties were off.
The whole experience was exceptional, and probably my best lay in China in about a year. As she was leaving, I gave her 1000 RMB and another 50 for taxi fare - and she was quite happy with that. As I pass through HK more than Beijing, the whole experience made me miss the Mongolian participation at Bananas from years ago, made me commit to myself that I had to increase the frequency of my visits to BJ, and reminded me of why I have a passion for Mongolian meat[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Softy]I had the pleasure of my first Maggies' experience in quite some time on this past Tuesday.
With my passion for Eurasian types, I must say that Maggie's rightfully deserves its designation as a shrine to many. Unfortunately, I had not been there in quite some time. Fortunately, Tuesday night reminded me that my frequency of visits must increase.
I had taken up Bad Boy Billy's suggestion of hotels and stayed at the Kunlun, which I must say is an exceptional hotel choice in terms of value and girl friendlienes. On the way out to Maggies, I was tempted by a petite and attractive Chinese girl in the Lobby who was standing discretely by the elevators. Fate and good fortune allowed me to avoid this particular temptation and I proceeded to exit the hotel and enter a cab bound for Maggies at around 11 pm.
Courtesy of a taxi driver who became completely lost on the way to Maggies, I did not get there until almost one hour later. Other than some very funny exchanges between the driver and I with my limited but conversational Mandarin, there really was no harm as he ultimately did not charge me and things were just getting rolling when I arrived.
Upon entering, I grabbed a beer at the bar and started chatting with one of the Chinese bar girls. She was fun to chat with so I bought her a couple of drinks and practiced my Pu Tong Hua for a bit. She was an excellent instructor whose English was fairly proficient so I was not unhappy with the 160 RMB spent to chat with her awhile. I think I may have been able to hook up with her eventually because she seemed genuinely upset that I wanted a take home - "THOSE MONGOLIANS will leave the bar, but Chinese girls want nice guy" was her comment.
Parting from Kelly (the Chinese girl), I made the rounds a bit, and settled into one of the few open seats at the bar. By this time, around 12:30, the bar was filling up with girls - almost all Mongolian which is quite fine by me. Most of the girls, as usual, were quite provacatively dressed and some downright kinky looking. In general, I prefer the more casual type look as I find that those not overly agressive tend to provide better services. Much to my good fortune of the evening, a slightly built, reasonably tall (about 5'7"), casually dressed chick was sitting next to me. I was still checking out the bar, and we chatted up just a bit. But, she was so casual and unremarkable at first glance, that the conversation was casual. After about 10 minutes, I excused myself to go to the boys room.
Upon cruising back through the bar the only open seat was the one I had vacated, so I sat down - again next to this seemingly unremarkable Mongolian girl. The first thing out of her mouth when I returned was - "I guess that all the pretty girls here make you horny so you have to go to toilet." I laughed my ass off, turned around to face her and took a closer look. And, I liked what I saw - greenish eyes, auburn hair (she claimed the color to be natural), and long legs connected to protruding hips, the girl was had a very subtle sexiness beneath her causalness. 45 minutes of conversation later, we were headed from Maggies to my hotel. When I asked her about services, she responded that she would like to do whatever I wanted. When I asked her about the price, her response was whatever I wanted to pay. Either she was a bit of a newbie or she simply liked me or she has a very unique MO.
Once again, proving my point that the best service is from more causual women in the 6-8 range, the girl was simply terrrific. She had a very slim body (almost extreme), almost no ass, small suckable tits, shaved pussy (after a week in China, this made me happy), and beautiful lips which all added up to a unique and sensual look. She matched that sensual look by a completely passionate preformance from the striptease, to the shower, to the first POP, to the second Pop (for which she awakened me about 2 hours after the first pop with a BBBJ), to the third pop in the morning to the farewell kiss. Excellent BBJ skills, tight pussy, great pussy muscle control, horny, and sopping wet the moment her panties were off.
The whole experience was exceptional, and probably my best lay in China in about a year. As she was leaving, I gave her 1000 RMB and another 50 for taxi fare - and she was quite happy with that. As I pass through HK more than Beijing, the whole experience made me miss the Mongolian participation at Bananas from years ago, made me commit to myself that I had to increase the frequency of my visits to BJ, and reminded me of why I have a passion for Mongolian meat[/QUOTE]
Excellent report!
Some remarks:
- Taxi: Take a (or plenty of) Maggie's business cards to show to driver. Without them (or even with them) they get lost.
Ask the hotel doorman to instruct driver where to go.
- Bargirls: For conversation only. They make NO money on the drinks. They are on a small salary and their job is to increase the bar bill. Their main source of income is the tip you give them. Drinking a lot on your part makes their job safer, but doesn't make them any money. They are all friendly and charming. Good conversation deserves a tip. RMB 500 for the evening, less for a few drinks.
- The bar girls are a good source of knowledge re the Mongolian talent. They can pick a girl for you.
- Ditch ALL HOPES of 'eventually hooking up' with a Maggie's drinking girl. She would get immediately fired.
- If you don't discuss price with the take-out, you are supposed to know the going rate. 800 is standard. 1000 for all night is an honest deal. Taxi money not necessary when paying the fee.
- Taking the more plain looking ones is good advice. They usually provide better GFE for what they lack in the make-up dept. The true connoisseur transcends outside appearances ...
- Don't short-change a Maggie's girl. Their security staff is formidable, and a valid complaint will result in denied entry.
- Likewise, if a go-home girl provides bad service, complain. Ask the bar girls for Linda or the Manager (short, younger Chinese) A valid complaint will end a Maggie's career.
HI Softy and Zhuren,
I just went there last night but cannot get in because the guy at the door said it is member only?! How to get one and get in?
I still in BJ and really want to try it out!
KS
Hi Softy and Zhuren,
I just went there last night but cannot get in because the guy at the door said it is member only?! How to get one and get in?
I still in BJ and really want to try it out!
KS
[QUOTE=Zhuren]Excellent report!
Some remarks:
- Taxi: Take a (or plenty of) Maggie's business cards to showbto driver. Without them (or even with them) they get lost.
Ask the hotel doorman to instruct driver where to go.
- Bargirls: For conversation only. They make NO money on the drinks. They are on a small salary and their job is to increase the bar bill. They are all friendly and charming. Good conversation deserves a tip. RMB 500 for the evening, less for a few drinks.
- The bar girls are a good source of knowledge re the Mongolian talent.
- Ditch ALL HOPES of 'eventually hooking up' with a Maggie's drinking girl. She would get immediately fired.
- If you don't discuss price with the take-out, you are supposed to know the going rate. 800 is standard. 1000 for all night is an honest deal. Taxi money not necessary when paying the fee.
- Taking the more plain looking ones is good advice. They usually provide better GFE for what they lack in the make-up dept. The true connoisseur transcends outside appearances ...[/QUOTE]
Due to various complaints regarding the girl friendlyness in certain Beijing hotels, Jackson thankfully started a new section dedicated to BJ Hotels only.
It can be found at [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2659[/url]
A list of GF and UGF hotels is being maintained. This list depends on YOUR input and YOUR experiences.
Please file your reports and help your brothers out. [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2659[/url] is for BJ hotels only, and only reports filed in that section will be reflected in the list.
Hi Softy and Zhuren,
I just went there last night but cannot get in because the guy at the door said it is member only?! How to get one and get in??
I still in BJ and really want to try it out!
KS
[QUOTE=Zhuren]Excellent report!
Some remarks:
- Taxi: Take a (or plenty of) Maggie's business cards to show to driver. Without them (or even with them) they get lost.
Ask the hotel doorman to instruct driver where to go.
- Bargirls: For conversation only. They make NO money on the drinks. They are on a small salary and their job is to increase the bar bill. Their main source of income is the tip you give them. Drinking a lot on your part makes their job safer, but doesn't make them any money. They are all friendly and charming. Good conversation deserves a tip. RMB 500 for the evening, less for a few drinks.
- The bar girls are a good source of knowledge re the Mongolian talent. They can pick a girl for you.
- Ditch ALL HOPES of 'eventually hooking up' with a Maggie's drinking girl. She would get immediately fired.
- If you don't discuss price with the take-out, you are supposed to know the going rate. 800 is standard. 1000 for all night is an honest deal. Taxi money not necessary when paying the fee.
- Taking the more plain looking ones is good advice. They usually provide better GFE for what they lack in the make-up dept. The true connoisseur transcends outside appearances ...
- Don't short-change a Maggie's girl. Their security staff is formidable, and a valid complaint will result in denied entry.
- Likewise, if a go-home girl provides bad service, complain. Ask the bar girls for Linda or the Manager (short, younger Chinese) A valid complaint will end a Maggie's career.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ken Stanley]Hi Softy and Zhuren,
I just went there last night but cannot get in because the guy at the door said it is member only?! How to get one and get in??
I still in BJ and really want to try it out!
KS[/QUOTE]
Ken,
I have never had a problem entering Maggies or being asked for a membership. I know that some bars in China that cater to Westerners will ask that of men of Asian origin. I take it from your nick that you are not of Asian origin, but I could be wrong. I also do not think that Maggies has this particular restriction, but, again, I could be wrong.
Try again is my best advice.
[QUOTE=Zhuren]Excellent report!
Some remarks:
- Taxi: Take a (or plenty of) Maggie's business cards to show to driver. Without them (or even with them) they get lost.
Ask the hotel doorman to instruct driver where to go.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, and I forgot to grab a new card this time there....rats!!
[QUOTE=Zhuren]- Bargirls: For conversation only. They make NO money on the drinks. They are on a small salary and their job is to increase the bar bill. Their main source of income is the tip you give them. Drinking a lot on your part makes their job safer, but doesn't make them any money. They are all friendly and charming. Good conversation deserves a tip. RMB 500 for the evening, less for a few drinks.[/QUOTE]
That I did not realize, Zhuren as this was the first time at Maggies that I chatted up one of the employees. I am sure that info is somewhere in the forum -- RTFF, LOL. I figured the girls made money from the drinks. I will have to tip Kelly the next time I am there as she was quite a good conversationalist. Probably good for the guide thing too!!..
[QUOTE=Zhuren]- Ditch ALL HOPES of 'eventually hooking up' with a Maggie's drinking girl. She would get immediately fired.[/QUOTE]
Probably true, but this particular girls seemed to want to risk it, but, then again, she never proffered her mobile number. Indicative of what our ego will do to us.
[QUOTE=Zhuren]- Taking the more plain looking ones is good advice. They usually provide better GFE for what they lack in the make-up dept. The true connoisseur transcends outside appearances ...
- Don't short-change a Maggie's girl. Their security staff is formidable, and a valid complaint will result in denied entry.[/QUOTE]
Two of my three mongering pricinciples
1. Pay the market price as both higher and lower encourages bad results.
2. Take the 6-8's and avoid the 9-10's.
3. Treat the girls with respect.
[QUOTE=Zhuren]- Likewise, if a go-home girl provides bad service, complain. Ask the bar girls for Linda or the Manager (short, younger Chinese) A valid complaint will end a Maggie's career.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the advice. It sounds like you spend quite a bit of time in BJ. I would love to buy you a drink for your feedback sometime.
Cheers!!
[QUOTE=Ken Stanley]Hi Softy and Zhuren,
I just went there last night but cannot get in because the guy at the door said it is member only?! How to get one and get in??
I still in BJ and really want to try it out!
KS[/QUOTE]
Ha, ha.
Maggie's turns into a "Members Only" club if you don't fit the admittance profile. Trust me, I'm a regular "member" and never ever possessed a membership card, or paid club dues (well, I kindof did, at the bar and to the ladies.)
[B]Maggie's is no membership club if:[/B]
The guest is male and caucasian
[B]Maggie's definitely is a membership club if:[/B]
The guest is mainland Chinese
[B]Maggie's can be hit & miss if:[/B]
The guest looks Chinese
The guest looks Indian or South Asian and is sloppily dressed
The guest is black and not obviously American
The guest is too young
If you are denied entrance:
- Develop a haughty attitude. Don't beg, don't argue, develop an "excuse me???" posture
- Don't understand what he's saying. Don't understand or speak a word of Chinese. Speak rapid fire English.
- Say "Since when is Maggie's a membership club. It wasn't the last three times I've been here. You've got to be kidding me, my friend."
(The above ploys may or may not work. The Maggie's security force is the best in Bejing. They are well trained and sharp. They have a keen eye for regulars. Trying to bribe them is useless.)
- Go there with a regular. Sometimes, I take a Chinese friend and make his day (or night.) It's kindof sick that a Chinese is denied entry to a bar in his home country, whereas the foreigner is welcome. In Tokyo it's just the other way around. But this is China.
According to informed sources, the above policy, that may look like racial profiling, actually has to do with operational security. By keeping the local populace out, the local populace cannot be offended. Also, undercover law enforcement would have to undergo plastic surgery first. An effective barrier to entry. Keeping the supply side of the P4P to non-Chinese also has to do with the above safety measures.
You are in good hands at Maggie's.
[QUOTE=Softy]
That I did not realize, Zhuren as this was the first time at Maggies that I chatted up one of the employees. I am sure that info is somewhere in the forum -- RTFF, LOL. I figured the girls made money from the drinks. I will have to tip Kelly the next time I am there as she was quite a good conversationalist. Probably good for the guide thing too!!.. [/QUOTE]
They don't get a cut. Rumors to the contrary are false. Couldn't believe it myself first. I'm friends with the former Manager of Maggie's (who doesn't need to lie to me,) I'm friendly with the current one, and have an excellent relationship with several barmaids. The info is correct. The girls get big round eyes when I tell them that in Tokyo, the girl gets 40% of the drink money ....
[QUOTE=Softy]Probably true, but this particular girls seemed to want to risk it, but, then again, she never proffered her mobile number. Indicative of what our ego will do to us.[/QUOTE]
Abandon all hope. That girl is just good. She makes you feel you might be able to date her "after we know each other better - maybe over a bottle of champagne?" but she never will. The only way to date a Maggie's bar girl is her to quit her job and move in with you. Trust me, I have the numbers of most Maggie's drinking girls in my phone, and they have mine. We went shopping (their taste is exquisite ... Lufthansa or Guo Mao are favorite destinations,) we dined (they know the number of the Green Tea House ... one of BJ's finest eateries, off the tops of their pretty heads,) but we never went beyond. And only because I know and observe the rules, we spent the (somewhat expensive) afternoons. You stand better chances dating a nun than a Maggie's drinking girl.
Anyway, she might even have slipped you a false name. There is no "Kelly" known amongst the Maggie's drinking staff. Neither by real nor by working name, just checked with Maggie's HR ...
[QUOTE=Softy]Thanks for the advice. It sounds like you spend quite a bit of time in BJ. I would love to buy you a drink for your feedback sometime. [/QUOTE]
We live here. We might be there tonight. If we meet up, we'll interview Kelly.
[QUOTE=Zhuren]Ha, ha.
Maggie's turns into a "Members Only" club if you don't fit the admittance profile. Trust me, I'm a regular "member" and never ever possessed a membership card, or paid club dues (well, I kindof did, at the bar and to the ladies.)
[/QUOTE]
In my April's trip to Beijing; Mock A Bee and I went to Maggie's. Both of us are ABC and definitely have the local looks. Mock A Bee was an ex-regular there for 5 years before he moved to Shanghai 2 years ago.
At the entrance (where the 5 RMB hotdog stand is) we were stopped by the security who said: "Member Card please" (in Chinese). Both of us knew this would happen and we started speaking American English. Mock A Bee said: "Come on man.... What's a member card?", I said: "Hahaha... they meant our American Driver's license".... The security guard smiled at us, stood aside and signaled us to enter.
I guess the membership card is our spoken English? :D
In my trip, I visited Maggie all three nights and got to know one of the bars girls. She told me then that she is quiting work there and will come to Shanghai to find a job. One month later she showed up in Shanghai and stay over my place for 2 nights before heading back to Beijing. I will not brag about what happened in those 2 nights but just say that we had a good time together. Last month she moved to Shanghai, now working as an office lady and is living in an apartment which she found through my housing agent.
Enjoy!
AG
I'm hankering for a little bit of Shanghai in our fair city and wondered why I had not seen any references to the soapland-style saunas that I've seen down south. These are where you have a private room with half "wet-room" with a plastic covered table that you get showered and washed with a sudsy naked girl, and a standard bedroom on the other side. Here's an earlier posting I did on one place I liked: (sorry for the anonymizer - post #7560 on SH board)
[url]http://youhide.com/nph-info.pl/010110A/687474703a2f2f7777772e696e7465726e6174696f6e616c73657867756964652e696e666f2f666f72756d2f73686f77706f73742e7068703f703d35343036333926706f7374636f756e743d37353630[/url]
Are there any of these at a comparable rate: 600-900rmb, around here?
Also, I miss the kind of place where you can sit and lounge with the girls first before taking them into the back for various services. Obviously Beijing is a little less forgiving than SH, but I was hoping there was a variant of the very popular pub in SH where you can chat and have pleasant conversation with a nice young lady before taking her into the back and unloading your children in her mouth. The girls there are known for their skills -- would be great if there was a similar place here.
[QUOTE=Zhuren]
Anyway, she might even have slipped you a false name. There is no "Kelly" known amongst the Maggie's drinking staff. Neither by real nor by working name, just checked with Maggie's HR ....[/QUOTE]
Curly haired girl with fair skin, average height, cute but not "hot", fairly good English...LOL. Thanks for the feedback on the bar girls.
[QUOTE=Zhuren]
We live here. We might be there tonight. If we meet up, we'll interview Kelly.[/QUOTE]
I wish I was there tonight...:)
I am back in US now. I live about 25% of the year in China where I have a home base in Zhejiang province, about 25% of the year travelling in Asia, about 25% of the year travelling in the west, and about 25% of the year living in the US. Unfortunately, I pass through Beijing far too infrequently. If you don't mind, I would love to hit you up on a PM on my next pass through and repay you for your excellent Beijing guidance.
Thanks and Cheers!!
[QUOTE=Softy]Curly haired girl with fair skin, average height, cute but not "hot", fairly good English...LOL. Thanks for the feedback on the bar girls.
[/QUOTE]
Ah, ok, I know who you mean. New girl. Any time you are in BJ, drop me a line.
Hi Zhuren,
The rapid english strategy is work last night, but I didn't pick any M's lady. Do you know any other similar place like Maggie in BJ?
[QUOTE=Zhuren]Ha, ha.
Maggie's turns into a "Members Only" club if you don't fit the admittance profile. Trust me, I'm a regular "member" and never ever possessed a membership card, or paid club dues (well, I kindof did, at the bar and to the ladies.)
[B]Maggie's is no membership club if:[/B]
The guest is male and caucasian
[B]Maggie's definitely is a membership club if:[/B]
The guest is mainland Chinese
[B]Maggie's can be hit & miss if:[/B]
The guest looks Chinese
The guest looks Indian or South Asian and is sloppily dressed
The guest is black and not obviously American
The guest is too young
If you are denied entrance:
- Develop a haughty attitude. Don't beg, don't argue, develop an "excuse me???" posture
- Don't understand what he's saying. Don't understand or speak a word of Chinese. Speak rapid fire English.
- Say "Since when is Maggie's a membership club. It wasn't the last three times I've been here. You've got to be kidding me, my friend."
(The above ploys may or may not work. The Maggie's security force is the best in Bejing. They are well trained and sharp. They have a keen eye for regulars. Trying to bribe them is useless.)
- Go there with a regular. Sometimes, I take a Chinese friend and make his day (or night.) It's kindof sick that a Chinese is denied entry to a bar in his home country, whereas the foreigner is welcome. In Tokyo it's just the other way around. But this is China.
According to informed sources, the above policy, that may look like racial profiling, actually has to do with operational security. By keeping the local populace out, the local populace cannot be offended. Also, undercover law enforcement would have to undergo plastic surgery first. An effective barrier to entry. Keeping the supply side of the P4P to non-Chinese also has to do with the above safety measures.
You are in good hands at Maggie's.[/QUOTE]
Btw, forgot to mention that im from HK, thats why I got denied on first night!
I think I talked to her last night. I didn't ask her name though. Will go back to Shanghai tonight after 3 nights in Beijing. Maggie's was great as usual. I saw lots of new girls (at least for me) The one that accompanied me home last night, was just fresh of the plane (though it is not her first visit to Beijing). Looking forward to my next visit.
[QUOTE=Zhuren]Ah, ok, I know who you mean. New girl. Any time you are in BJ, drop me a line.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ace Gallant]At the entrance (where the 5 RMB hotdog stand is)Enjoy!AG[/QUOTE] Ha! I wish they were that cheap!! try 20rmb. I was heading to Absenta last week and just had to stop the taxi outside of maggies and have him wait while I ran in for a hotdog!! I havent been in Maggies for sometime actually, but the membership criteria offered by Zhuren is spot on.
Ps, on the second ring road in between DongSiShiTiao and DongZhiMen, there is a sauna/spa which has a sign saying "Thai Spa". Anyone have any more than that on this place? Do they have Thai girls??
Sid
[QUOTE=SidTheSexist]
Ps, on the second ring road in between DongSiShiTiao and DongZhiMen, there is a sauna/spa which has a sign saying "Thai Spa". Anyone have any more than that on this place? Do they have Thai girls??
Sid[/QUOTE]
They have Thai Girls (she looked worse than Chinese option) and offer Thai massage for RMB 298 but I am not sure if they offered any thing more than massage. Place is relatively cleaner.
Due to language barrier I couldn't come to any conclusion. Near that place (on the other side of Oriental Garden Hotel) there is another massage parlour. I also was unable to gauge them as to what they offerred.
[QUOTE=SidTheSexist]Ha! I wish they were that cheap!! try 20rmb. I was heading to Absenta last week and just had to stop the taxi outside of maggies and have him wait while I ran in for a hotdog!! I havent been in Maggies for sometime actually, but the membership criteria offered by Zhuren is spot on.
Ps, on the second ring road in between DongSiShiTiao and DongZhiMen, there is a sauna/spa which has a sign saying "Thai Spa". Anyone have any more than that on this place? Do they have Thai girls??
Sid[/QUOTE]
Sorry, I stand corrected because I never ate the Hotdog there. But what go for 5RMB on the sign? I can't remember?
Enjoy!
AG
I'm a newbie to the board but have been a lurker for some time so it's my turn to pay-up.
Here is a report from my recent trip to BJ..
(Thanks to Sammy and the others who spend so much time helping the rest of us non-residents out in your town.)
Like many others I'm there for work, the clock is running and I need to be discreet. Would love to go to maggies - but like others here have said, I'm getting abit long in the tooth to hang around til 2 or 3 AM to take a girl back to a hotel that I may or may not be able to get her into! (not to mention that I'm there for work - oh yes, I already mentioned that).
So thanks ever so much for the tip about Regency. I agree that others should also do their own research (as I did) so I'll leave it there. The cost was 800 RMB for massage with hj OR bj. 1,100 gets you the full fire and ice treatment, rim job, CBJ and FS to finish. 1,500 gets you a VIP room - pretty stunning looking - but I didn't book that one (she showers with you too).
I did 800 and 1,100 service. The 1,100 girl was number 56 - great body and reasonable looking. The 800 wasn't bad either and allowed 2 finishes incl CBJ and boob sandwich.
Hard Rock Cafe is a drag early and later..the food sucks too, even though it's three times the price of other places..The Den waas great for their cheap beer and pizzas...really nice waitresses too (not great looking but very pleasant and friendly women - what a switch from the rest of China).
Stay clear of the massage place across the street from the Kunlun (actually across and toward the intersection nxt to Korean restaurant). It was 250 for HJ and then spent every 15 seconds trying to 'upsell' me to 2 girls or 'touchy-touchy' - otherwise no touch. Then she wiped me down with some towel that looked like it may benn previously 'used' - yik.
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[QUOTE=SidTheSexist]Ps, on the second ring road in between DongSiShiTiao and DongZhiMen, there is a sauna/spa which has a sign saying "Thai Spa". Anyone have any more than that on this place? Do they have Thai girls?[/QUOTE]Sid,
This place is about 95% legit. I've been there numerous times and there is no hinting towards extra service by the girls there. Then again, there was one time, and I mean only one time, that a girl hinted at extras and I obliged. She only offered a HJ for a price of 200RMB. Unfortunately, I never saw her again, so she was probably trying to make a quick buck before leaving.
If anyone else has had luck there, please let me know.
What is the standard price for courting a Russian girl for a night from Hollywood?
I would like to publically thank Zhuren for the tremendous contribution he is making to the Beijing community. His monitoring of the Beijing Hotel Board is priceless and in addition he posts informative and interesting reports . This from a member with less then a 100 posts !!
All of us owe this man a beer whenever we meet him as well as our thanks.
[QUOTE=Ken Stanley]Hi Zhuren,
The rapid english strategy is work last night, but I didn't pick any M's lady. Do you know any other similar place like Maggie in BJ?[/QUOTE]
There's only one Maggie's in all of China ...
The pickin's can get a bit slim on week-ends. Try now, beginning of the week.
Tue and Wed are fine. Or try Fridays, but go early. The good looking ones can be picked out quite quickly.
[QUOTE=Ontario Boy]I would like to publically thank Zhuren for the tremendous contribution he is making to the Beijing community. His monitoring of the Beijing Hotel Board is priceless and in addition he posts informative and interesting reports . This from a member with less then a 100 posts !!
All of us owe this man a beer whenever we meet him as well as our thanks.[/QUOTE]
You are very much welcome.
[QUOTE=Zhuren]There's only one Maggie's in all of China ...
The pickin's can get a bit slim on week-ends. Try now, beginning of the week.
Tue and Wed are fine. Or try Fridays, but go early. The good looking ones can be picked out quite quickly.[/QUOTE]
Absolutely the pickin's can get slim on Fridays and Saturdays - the good ones WILL go early.
And the 'superstar' are more than likely to go through 2 or 3 cycles each Friday and Saturday night - so the 'stunner' you grab at 2.30 or 3 may well have already been poked twice earlier that night.
I love Sun to Wed nights - last time I was there on a Sunday night the first line I got out of the girls mouth was "800RMB - you can do whatever you want to me as many times as you want".
Aint that just music to your ears?
[QUOTE=Visio]What is the standard price for courting a Russian girl for a night from Hollywood?[/QUOTE]
Standard price for S/T 1 shot / no kissing / no pics / no BBBJ is RMB800.
L/T is totally negotiable with the girl - expect RMB2,000 to 2,500 as normal - if not more.
As to the service - up to your negotiating skills and the chemistry.
I know you will probably be sick of hearing it - BUT - the Mongolian alternative from Maggies at RMB800 all night / all services on offer is far better.
[QUOTE=Ronniemonger]
So thanks ever so much for the tip about Regency. I agree that others should also do their own research (as I did) so I'll leave it there. The cost was 800 RMB for massage with hj OR bj. 1,100 gets you the full fire and ice treatment, rim job, CBJ and FS to finish. 1,500 gets you a VIP room - pretty stunning looking - but I didn't book that one (she showers with you too).
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Is it at 39 Maizidian Road? I was told on this board that it is closed now. Are they still open?
[QUOTE=Great Wall]Is it at 39 Maizidian Road? I was told on this board that it is closed now. Are they still open?[/QUOTE]
Regency (also sometimes misprinted as "Regify" on the business card) aka Lichi Massage Club Ltd-. is at 39 Maizidian Road. Close to lufthansa, other side of the canal.
They are very much alive. I get an outbound telemarketing call from Tina about every second day. Sometimes she calls me when I'm still waiting at the luggage carousel at PEK airport ....
Their facilities are great. If you don't have to watch the money, get the VIP rooms with sauna and bathtub (make sure it works..), and the two girl treatment. Full monte with two girls will set you back about 3000 (depending how hard a bargaign you drive with the manageress...) The girls can be stunning, and the ones from up north have nice racks.
They used to come with nice skimpy uniforms (nurse, police etc.) but recently, that had been slipping a bit.
This place definitely is not for the budget minded, but discerning tastes won't be disappointed. Weekend afternoons provide the best selections.
[QUOTE=Zhuren]Regency (also sometimes misprinted as "Regify" on he business card) aka Lichi Massage Club Ltd-. is at 39 Maizidian Road. Close to lufthansa, other side of the canal.
They are very much alive. I get an outbound telemarketing call from Tina about every second day. Sometimes she calls me when I'm still waiting at the luggage carousel at PEK airpoort ....
Their facilities are great. If you don't have to watch the money, get the VIP rooms with sauna and bathtub (make sure it works..), and the two girl treatment. Full monte with two girls will set you back about 3000 (depending how hard a bargaign you drive with the manageress...) The girls can be stunning, and the ones from up north have nice racks.
They used to come with nice skimpy uniforms (nurse, police etc.) but recently, that had been slipping a bit.
This place definitely is not for the budget minded, but discerning tastes won't be disappointed. Weekend afternoons provide the best selections.[/QUOTE]
Thanx. I know the place but was under impression it was closed down. The real problem here is TINA. It is quite hard to negotiate with this lady.
On the contrary, I found the the broken English speaking guy at South Side (Majiapu Rd) easy to deal with.
[QUOTE=Great Wall]Thanx. I know the place but was under impression it was closed down. The real problem here is TINA. It is quite hard to negotiate with this lady.
On the contrary, I found the the broken English speaking guy at South Side (Majiapu Rd) easy to deal with.[/QUOTE]
True. Tina can be a bit of a pain. Haven't been there for weeks, but still getting calls ....
It's the start of August, no more July specials at WangJing, time to try some new places. Went to the massage place on the ground floor of building 7 at China Central Place (Hua Mao Zhong Xin.? ) near Sunshine 100, around the corner on Dawang Lu. Building 7 is down near the strange round building in the middle of the compound; can't remember the name of the massage place but you can't miss it as they have a sign out front.
Took the Thai oil massage at 150 RMB for 45 minutes. Massage itself was so-so, the girl was not at all remarkable (maybe a 5), but as hoped for about half-way in she started massaging my balls and did the international signal for "you want handjob? ". A quick negotiation led to 100 RMB for the deed. No problem feeling her titties under her top (top remained on).
Overall, can't really recommend going out of your way for this place, but it was cheaper (for me) than a taxi to WangJing and cleaner than a BBS. On the other hand I can highly recommend going to the mall (Shin Kong Place) next door for potential amateur action. Tons of stunning girls both shopping and working there. Got the number of one of the perfume-counter girls working the ground floor, will be banging her this weekend if my putonghua is up for the job.
Glad to hear about Regency up by Lufthansa. Have gone past a few times, will have to check it out now. Also, what about the place around the corner on Lucky Street (I think its called "Lilly Massage" from memory, could be wrong). It's got a bunch of neon Korean writing on the outside which is usually a good sign for what could be on offer, but often a bad sign for pricing.
Number 16 at 419 is remarkable. I would rate her better than # 22.
There are almost one MP in every building. MP in building 417 offers FS but quality may not be upto mark. Didn't try. That in 411 also offers BJ like 419 and the price is same i.e. Y 160 but 419 is matchless.
Hi together,
Shame that I did not found this community earlier, stumbled upon after searching some action in Hong Kong about 2 weeks ago.
This is really a great forum, would have spared me some experiences I made in the past.
Regarding Beijing, not much new I can contribute about Beijing (been here about 15 times from 1 to 3 weeks during the last years, staying about half of the year in Germany and half of the year in China).
I did not found anything on the pages I have read so far about the SW scene between China World Trade Center and Jianguo Hotel on Jianguomen Dajie. Was quite active in December last year and February this year. Just walk along at around 9:30 p.m. and you will be adressed by the girls, going prices were about 300 ST and 500 LT (after bargaining). But take care, also a lot of art students around there. Though i am not sure if it is still active at the moment. (Still in Guangzhou, which bar and street scene is pretty dead by the way)
Even if this is my first post I have to disagree with you Zhuren:
[QUOTE=Zhuren]Ditch ALL HOPES of 'eventually hooking up' with a Maggie's drinking girl. She would get immediately fired.[/QUOTE]I agree that you should dish every hope to just go to Maggies and "Pick up" a bar girl with "Hi, what´s your name, where are you from, would you like to come to room". But it might happen (first hand experience) that you go to M just for a beer and some good time and end up in a very personal conversation with one of the bargirls. (I will not post her name because she might get into trouble) So after i decided it is time to go home i asked her about coming with me (more to end the conversation) and to my surprise she said yes. So stayed until they closed and took of course different taxis. Actually when i was at the hotel i still had slight doubts about her showing up but she did.
But be alert, the bar girls are on a different level than the "normal girls". If you decide to give it a try be nice and friendly. If she does not really like you hell will freeze before she will go with you. Do not be a cheap charlie, by her drinks, if she asks sometimes for a drink for a friend, buy it. This strengthtens her position among the other girls. (As Zhuren said, they don´t get a commision on the drinks, they have a salary but a certain turnover is expected.) Do not be too straight inside Maggies, a little cuddling and touching is ok, but do not push it to far. If it is time to go just say goodbye and leave, if she agreed to come she will come.
And now comes the point were it can lead to heaven or hell: On the first night please her, make her feel comfortable give her a good time. You will be paid back three times. Actually this was/is the far best p4p experience i had till now. Next afternoon if she asks for money you can try to give her the usual 800, but probably she will ask for maybe 500 more. Give it to her and you are on your way to heaven. Behave rude and mechanical during the first night, bargain and hassle about the money and your on your way to hell, at least at Maggies. You can be sure as hell that on the next evening the bargirls will know about her time with you. Remember, if she came with you she really kind of likes you. So probably she will be really into it if you give her a good time.
From now on there are two possibilities: It is about you to decide if you want to repeat your experience. If not and she had a good time with you, you will have a great time in Maggies because she will help you to pick up other girls, will ask you what girl you like, what qualities you prefer and so on. If you decide to repeat (as i did, the experience was just too great) things change drastically after the second or third night. First you will recognize that you become off limits for the other girls at maggies. Which is not so bad at all, as long as you are happy with your girl. You get in contact with the other bargirls, nearly no waiting time at the pool table (most of the time your girl will immediatly arrange a double with one of her friends who is playing or will be playing next), so you will have a great time. Though also a quite expensive time, you will easily spend 1000 RMB in a night just for drinks. Sooner or later you will not pay your girl with money but you will go out shopping, for dinner and so on. And as Zhuren said, they normally have a quiete exquisite taste. Though i am not yet at that point, i think it might become kind of difficult to break up in the future. Chinese girls/woman can become quite bitchy. Anyhow, maybe i just wait till she leaves Beijing and goes back home. At the moment she makes me feel kind of "comming home" when i come to BJ. And there are a lot of other places for P4P in China. I will add one or another report in the different China Forums in the next days.
So to sum up, it is possible to get engaged with a bargirl, but it is everything else but easy. I don´t think that it is everyones cup of tea, if you are just into a quick P4P do not waste time and money. If you are really into one of them you might give it a try, but think you might fail and even in case of success there are consequences.
Take care
[QUOTE=Great Wall]Number 16 at 419 is remarkable. I would rate her better than # 22.
There are almost one MP in every building. MP in building 417 offers FS but quality may not be upto mark. Didn't try. That in 411 also offers BJ like 419 and the price is same i.e. Y 160 but 419 is matchless.[/QUOTE]Cool. If you haven't already, do try No. 56, my all-time-fav at 419... (wonderful, delicate hand techniques. Pay attention to the way she smoothly and clearly makes the transition from "health massage" to "sensuous massage". Remarkable!) I haven't tried 16 yet, but will do so!
[QUOTE=Great Wall]Number 16 at 419 is remarkable. I would rate her better than # 22.
There are almost one MP in every building. MP in building 417 offers FS but quality may not be upto mark. Didn't try. That in 411 also offers BJ like 419 and the price is same i.e. Y 160 but 419 is matchless.[/QUOTE]I fully agree with you, Great Wall.
These two girls, number 16 and 22, are really great.
I go quite often for a session with #16, and we're sort of good friends now. She's the one I prefer :-)
Went yesterday, and she was occupied, so I had #22 instead: just great. She was wearing no bra, and I could play with her very nice tits while having my other hand in her short pants, playing with her pussy.
I need to head down there. Any idea what I tell the taxi drivers?
[QUOTE=Great Wall]Number 16 at 419 is remarkable. I would rate her better than # 22.
There are almost one MP in every building. MP in building 417 offers FS but quality may not be upto mark. Didn't try. That in 411 also offers BJ like 419 and the price is same i.e. Y 160 but 419 is matchless.[/QUOTE]
I'm here in Beijing and can finally post a report.
There's an OK place on Gulou Dajie abot midway down between the large intersection and the Tower itself. If you are heading to the tower, Its on the right. You'll walk up a flight of stairs with english and Chinese writing.
First off, its "legitimate" or at least seems to be on the surface.
Was there for "Chinese Massage". This apparently is the proper word. The lady came in and we discussed rates. HJ was 500 FS was 800. I got her down to 400 w/o any real arguements.
The plus side is that the girl that I got was definetly a 9. Great body, amazingly sweet voice. Spent about 45 mins with her. Pretty good.
The minus sude is she insisted on being fully clothed the entire time. Bummer.
Gotta say she did a pretty good job though.
[QUOTE=FrequentTravel]So to sum up, it is possible to get engaged with a bargirl, but it is everything else but easy. I don´t think that it is everyones cup of tea, if you are just into a quick P4P do not waste time and money. If you are really into one of them you might give it a try, but think you might fail and even in case of success there are consequences.
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It is possible to get engaged. Quite literally. And married also. I could name some cases. If she goes to bed with you, she's breaking the Maggie's law, and she's doing it, because she intends to move out of Maggies and in with you. As you said, there are consequences. Not only are their tastes exquisite, they also know what a Schengen Visa is ....
Also, 1000 for drinks alone is very low. Your favorite girl expects you to give her a 500 RMB tip, and they drink brandy like fish .....
One more hint: Should you get "serious" with a Maggies girl, then I recommend to keep it to yourself.
It's true the girls talk about everything, but they NEVER EVER talk about having gone to bed with a customer. The few times it happens, it's a big secret. All bargirls will know the next day that you took one to Guo Mao and bought her the latest Nokia phone. But they will NEVER hear that you spent the night together ( if it was her free day.)
Also, they are very sharp. They are Chinese girls and good with math. They can put one and one together. If you like your girl, protect her privacy. Or you need to marry her.
Gary, the manager, is an avid reader of ISG.
Stating "Though i am not yet at that point, i think it might become kind of difficult to break up in the future. Chinese girls/woman can become quite bitchy. Anyhow, maybe i just wait till she leaves Beijing and goes back home" --- that is not a brilliant move IMHO.
If she truly went with you, she went with you because she loves you, and she's taking a big risk.
Announcing here on the forum that you may not come back, while making her (and your) identity quite transparent to someone "in the know," destroys her hope, and then her career on top of it. A Maggie's bargirl makes good money (between 10000 and 20000 RMB a month if she's good) and her chances of getting a job in a "regular" profession are slim.
And Chinese girls can become quite bitchy? Ha! They know what they want, that's for sure. But compared to their German counterparts (who you should know quite well,) they are angels. Don't clip their wings.
[QUOTE=Guits]
These two girls, number 16 and 22, are really great.
I go quite often for a session with #16, and we're sort of good friends now. She's the one I prefer :-)
Went yesterday, and she was occupied, so I had #22 instead: just great. She was wearing no bra, and I could play with her very nice tits while having my other hand in her short pants, playing with her pussy.[/QUOTE]
Both allow to play with their tits and pussy but the attitude of 16 is a bit better than 22.
BTW, my survey indicates almost 50% of MPs in that area offer FS for Y 300:-. You got to sample the right quality and that may take time. The only downside is they don't have bathing facilities but takeaway might be the final solution if you hit a pussy of your choice.
[QUOTE=Mojo888]Cool. If you haven't already, do try No. 56, my all-time-fav at 419... (wonderful, delicate hand techniques. Pay attention to the way she smoothly and clearly makes the transition from "health massage" to "sensuous massage". Remarkable!) I haven't tried 16 yet, but will do so![/QUOTE]
Thanx Mojo. I will sample 56 as well. During July I tried only 22. I tried 16 only on two occasions but will try 56 as well.
It is an art and I am sure all girls have their own tactics.
Back a year or so ago when I was in WangJing 419 almost twice a week, I'm sure on the odd occassion that I requested a shower, they allowed me to use their basic facility. It may have only been the shitty pipe hanging off the wall in the WC but its enough for a clean down before/afterwards.
Sid
[QUOTE=Guits]I fully agree with you, Great Wall.
These two girls, number 16 and 22, are really great.
I go quite often for a session with #16, and we're sort of good friends now. She's the one I prefer :-)
Went yesterday, and she was occupied, so I had #22 instead: just great. She was wearing no bra, and I could play with her very nice tits while having my other hand in her short pants, playing with her pussy.[/QUOTE]Sorry mate! I might have been the one she was busy with. Another great experience. Will try No. 56 on a next ocassion.
DB
[QUOTE=Capn Spudz]I need to head down there. Any idea what I tell the taxi drivers?[/QUOTE]
WANGJINGXIYUAN 419. At least this is what I see on the building. Do RTFF also.
Go to the basement of building 419. Explore other buildings as well.
[QUOTE=Great Wall]WANGJINGXIYUAN 419. At least this is what I see on the building. Do RTFF also.
Go to the basement of building 419. Explore other buildings as well.[/QUOTE]Been there again today, but both number 16 and 22 were not free. Since I didn't know about number 56, I went with 39.
She's definitely worth a try. She's friendly, good looking, and does some nice things in the sensual part of the massage. Actually, I had been with her some time ago, but she was a bit lazy for the non-sensual part; but today she was really very good :-)
Have fun.
I went to the Chunxiulu sauna for the first time in about six weeks or so. I am happy to say that the front room boys have stopped the pyjama scam and once they see that you are insisting on the free pj's they give up .
I went on a weekday mid afternoon and it was fairly quiet with three or four Chinese guys in the shower sauna area. I had a shower/sauna then went upstairs to the third floor and was shown to a room. They showed me a larger room but I asked for and got a smaller one .The room boy showed me the menu in English where you can choose variously price services all set out. I chose the 854 full package. He went outside and brought back a girl
( 868) who was rather cute and seemed fine to me so maybe i was lucky there as I am not sure how many girls were there that day. She was fine - early 20's cute - good figure - good service and close to a GFE although no English. She eased up as the time went on as she saw I was in no rush to finish so she ended up taking her time. One pop a time is all I am good for these days unless I use some chemical stimuli.
The packakge lasted 90 minutes or so with the last 30 being resting holding etc but not much pillow talk. At the end I was well rested and satisfied. It's a great way to escape the heat of a BJ summer. Total damage for sauna. service and a couple of cokes was 898 , I will probably go back now that they got their act together and hopefully will keep on gertting lucky with the choice of girls. Going midday means that you have fewer to choose from I would be happy to take 868 again
[QUOTE=Great Wall]Number 16 at 419 is remarkable. I would rate her better than # 22.
There are almost one MP in every building. MP in building 417 offers FS but quality may not be upto mark. Didn't try. That in 411 also offers BJ like 419 and the price is same i.e. Y 160 but 419 is matchless.[/QUOTE]Tried 417 and it was remarkably clean (surprising considering the dark basement corridor that leads to it), the girl Xiao-zou was maybe a 5 but very enthusiastic. Had a very enjoyable time for less than 500 for FS.
Take the stairs that lead down to the basement, turn right and follow the signs. The other girls there looked all about 5 or 6, so I may not try that place again.
At Maggies last night 3 quality regulars told me that they just returned from Mongolia within the past 24 hours. At Midnight the ratio of mongers to Northern guest workers was at least 4 to 1, felt like a Fraternity reunion. At 3am it was 1 to 4, with a surprising number of lovelies. Must be a lot of early short-time business activity on Friday. If you're shopping late, make sure you thoroughly wash the battleground if you're partial to DATY.
[QUOTE=Ragnarok42]Tried 417 and it was remarkably clean (surprising considering the dark basement corridor that leads to it), the girl Xiao-zou was maybe a 5 but very enthusiastic. Had a very enjoyable time for less than 500 for FS.
Take the stairs that lead down to the basement, turn right and follow the signs. The other girls there looked all about 5 or 6, so I may not try that place again.[/QUOTE]
Fantastic! You made it. Do they have shower facility? I was looking for it but they didn't understand what I wanted. You should have bargained a bit harder. It should be 300 for FS.
You can try 414. There are two establishments - one MP and the other a Korean Club. FS is available at both the places.
Hi mongers!
I have a problem with "Wangjingxiyuan"
Wangjing is also a subway station.
Wangjing xi is also a road between 4th and 5fth located above Shaoyaoju.
So where is this famous Wangjingxiyuan?
Thank you!
[QUOTE=Great Wall]Fantastic! You made it. Do they have shower facility? I was looking for it but they didn't understand what I wanted. You should have bargained a bit harder. It should be 300 for FS.
You can try 414. There are two establishments - one MP and the other a Korean Club. FS is available at both the places.[/QUOTE]Paid 350 for FS + 150 for the masage, guess its hard to think straight when the girl is massaging your little Didi. Will keep that in mind the next time. Guess I was finally happy to find someplace that doesn't begin with 1000 RMB.
A Korean club? What is the difference btwn that and a regular MP? Maybe I will hit both when I have time.
[QUOTE=Ragnarok42] A Korean club? What is the difference btwn that and a regular MP? Maybe I will hit both when I have time.[/QUOTE]
I was there during day time and there was no activity in the Korean Club. I just knocked at the door and 4 girls popped up. As much as I see there is no difference as far as our business goes. Both offer massage and extra. I really didn't look beyond that. Please post your research.
Fridays and Saturdays are tricky at M's.
That's when the working stiffs show up. And the true stunners only show on these days also. So there is quality supply and high demand.
So the weekend strategy is: Show at 11. If you see a beauty, grab her and off into a taxi. She'll want to leave soon for some repeat business.
Unless you are ready to offer a financial inducement for more quality time, simply get dressed and share the cab back to M's for an encore of ur own.
The true, hardcore connoiseurs avoid Fri night and go Sun, or Tue, Wed.
[QUOTE=Meiguoguizi]At Maggies last night 3 quality regulars told me that they just returned from Mongolia within the past 24 hours. At Midnight the ratio of mongers to Northern guest workers was at least 4 to 1, felt like a Fraternity reunion. At 3am it was 1 to 4, with a surprising number of lovelies. Must be a lot of early short-time business activity on Friday. If you're shopping late, make sure you thoroughly wash the battleground if you're partial to DATY.[/QUOTE]
Dear Sirs,
I have been in Beijing for about a week now, and after some inprocessing, briefings, etc., I will be going to the night shift today.
I did a thread search for "Chao Yang massage" and it came up with some info but nothing specific.
OK, I admit, I am lost.
I am looking for some action during the day and I guess my best bet is going to be a massage place or a BBS.
I would appreciate any and all comments that could point me in the right direction in the Chao Yang District, (East Third Road Central).
[QUOTE=Infomatic]Hi mongers! I have a problem with "Wangjingxiyuan" Wangjing is also a subway station.Wangjing xi is also a road between 4th and 5fth located above Shaoyaoju.So where is this famous Wangjingxiyuan? Thank you![/QUOTE] Try Guang Shun Bei DaJie. You should locate a new Shopping mall which actually very nice and has decent shops. From there, head north approx 200metres and the road will bend off to the right at traffic lights. The entrance is just down there.
Saw it on board and heard about it. Finally went there, pretty much a local joint.
It's BJ, can't compared with south. 1280 * .9 = 1152. total-. Good selections, nice attitude. I don't have time and don't like to hunt (risk to bring back a bad girl), so go there and just lay down to enjoy, easier.
馬家寶東路8號 (No 8, Ma-Jia-Bao East Road)
Have a 170cm Ching-Dao Pretty to serve me and, for some reason, she ml with me like crazy. Silk skin and sweet voice.
Has queen size bad with mirrors all over the room. Again, can't compare with the setup in south China, but good enough consider in BJ.
Went to Hollywood at 22:00 on Sunday night. The crowd was small and the choices were not great. There were one bunch of Russian girls who were apparently under the control of one mamasan. They stick and play together at a corner of the bar table and did not show any enthusiasm to approach guests for business. I saw some chinese guys only dealing with the mamasan. I approached one of the girls who had great body and sex appeal but rather covered up in her long-sleeve shirts and long pants and the response was "NO ENGLISH". "How much?". "NO". WTF!?!
To cut the story short, I ended up with taking back a girl from Uzbezkistan. Some problems bringing her back to the hotel at 01:00 at this local-chinese 4-star hotel around WangFuJing. The manager in-charge asked for ID and stuff. So I registered her at the reception and off we go. I would rate this hotel semi-GF-ly. One reason is probably the hotel has in-house KTV which they are tring to protect their own business interests. Anybody has any good experience with any 4-star hotel around WangFuJing?
Back in the room, she asked me to prepare hot-water while she was looking for ice. No ice in the fridge but cold water would do the job. My hands were busy all over her sexy body and kissing while waiting for the water to boil for around 10 minutes. After that she did her ice-and-fire CBJ for about 10 minutes and her skill was wonderful. Then my turn. I DATY her for about 15 minutes and her moan broke the silence of the hotel aisle.... "yes...yes...ah...ah...". Then I started to mount her in conventional style and bonk until I came..... We were both happy "couple" lying on the bed and fondle before heading to the shower room together. I paid her RMB20 extra on top of the RMB800 market rate and I am happily satisfied.
[QUOTE=Oreally]Dear Sirs,
I have been in Beijing for about a week now, and after some inprocessing, briefings, etc., I will be going to the night shift today.
I did a thread search for "Chao Yang massage" and it came up with some info but nothing specific.
OK, I admit, I am lost.
I am looking for some action during the day and I guess my best bet is going to be a massage place or a BBS.
I would appreciate any and all comments that could point me in the right direction in the Chao Yang District, (East Third Road Central).[/QUOTE]O'really
some mongers will tell you to RTFF, but having done that before I can tell you there's not a lot about BBS massage in the Chaoyang area.
I have some experience of the inner part of this area, close to third ring road, and Chaoyangmen ditiezhan. If you come out of ditiezhan and make sure that you are on the same side of the road as the Foreign Ministry take the first right past the foreign ministry. This area may have changed since I was last there because there's a lot of building going on, but keep walking down in a southerly direction. You enter, via a narrow lane, a residential area with some blocks of flats from the 60s and 80s. The road forms a T-junction and you can go left or right. Both are fine. Left and then first right and you come across at least one and possibly two bbs. One of these is probably legit, but you could try it on, that'll be the one with adverts for foot massage.
If neither of these please you, carry on until you come to a wider tree-lined street, with shops on the northern side, the side you have arrived from. About three or four of these walk-up shops are bbs, and I'm pretty sure all are safe bets for P4P. Keep going down this road and take the first left, now going south towards Yabaolu, and you will see a big building with sauna in neon on the top of it. This is a Russian area so they will likely speak to you in Russian. If you can hack that, then there are probably goodies to be found inside.
If you chose to go right, way back, then you will end up here but have passed two different bbs. There are other bbs in some of the back alleys, but it's too difficult to describe.
Good luck,
Xue
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I finally found the building after a fair amount of searching. Turns out I was almost right there the whole time. Where is the MP? I see a sign for SPA but I don't see how to get to it.
[QUOTE=SidTheSexist]Try Guang Shun Bei DaJie. You should locate a new Shopping mall which actually very nice and has decent shops. From there, head north approx 200metres and the road will bend off to the right at traffic lights. The entrance is just down there.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Swatch Guy]I paid her RMB20 extra on top of the RMB800 market rate and I am happily satisfied.[/QUOTE] 20rmb???? Is that a miss print for 200? Sorry, I'm just laughing too myself wondering about the look on her face for an extra 20!!!
Sid
I'm on the ground. Ok, so a little off the beaten track (5-6 blocks from a ring road, so really back alley territory between 4th-5th ring road) I keep walking by this place that looks like a hairdresser or "barbershop". Some people definitely seem to be getting haircuts, but inside there are quite a few girls just sitting around (and a couple guys). My instinct says that if (big if) there are P4P opportunities, this place is for locals in the know, but that it is probably legit.
Q: is a BBS painfully obvious (with girls strutting in the doorway) or is there something more subtle I should key upon? Obviously this would be easier if I could escape to one that has been well-documented, but I can't manage that right now.
I also found a sign for "special massage" with hours 9h-24h, and tried following the signs with no luck. Only the first sign had non-Chinese characters, and I lost the rest after one or two tries. Need a camera. It sounds more promising, but of course could also be legit. The hours seem to indicate something more, though.
Thoughts? Advice?
NBG
NBG,
In my experience BBS are quite "obvious" as you say, with slutty dressed girls smiling and waving at you, while they invite to enter the place.
As far as I know, in BBS is not possible to get haircut.
Girls you see in that specific joint may be together with patrons or provide some feet massage or other type of legit massage.
[QUOTE=Newbeijingguy]
...
I keep walking by this place that looks like a hairdresser or "barbershop". Some people definitely seem to be getting haircuts, but inside there are quite a few girls just sitting around (and a couple guys). My instinct says that if (big if) there are P4P opportunities, this place is for locals in the know, but that it is probably legit.
Q: is a BBS painfully obvious (with girls strutting in the doorway) or is there something more subtle I should key upon?
...
NBG[/QUOTE]
For those of you on the west side of Beijing, there is a KTV on the intersection of the West 4th ring road and Fucheng Lu. I am attaching the map from the mamasan’s business card and her number is 1391**50829 where th ** is the first 2 digits of James Bond’s agent number. Almost no English is spoken so you will need to have a Chinese speaker in your group to enjoy this place.
This KTV is attached to a 2 star quality hotel and the layout is similar to the non-highend ktv's in the Changping/Dongguan areas of South China and the quality is good but not close to 5 star quality. Of course the prices also were much less than 5 star prices.
For the large deluxe ktv room which easily accommodated our party of 7 guys plus their “dates” the total damages for the night was around Rmb1200. I believe this was the minimum room charge since we only drank beers (a lot!) and were told we still did not drink up to the minimum charge.
The charges were 2, 6, ?. We forgot to ask for the LT rate as we all opted for the short term in the hotel rooms arranged for the night at the adjoining hotel. The hotel rooms were Rmb250 per room. It was an interesting evening, as one by one each guy would wander out then back in after finishing his business while the party continued in the KTV room.
Overall looks of the dates ranged from around 5 to about 7 – no stunners or models. However the quality of service was overall around a 7 and the attitudes of the hostesses while in the KTV rooms was very very friendly. None of the stuck up attitude you sometimes get in the 5star quality KTV’s where the hostesses seem to think we should be entertaining them!
Overall, a very enjoyable KTV experience. Nothing extraordinary. Just a very comfortable and friendly atmosphere. We will go back!
BX
Nice report, Swatch Guy.
Since it is already late, did you ask her to stay for the night?
[QUOTE=Swatch Guy]Went to Hollywood at 22:00 on Sunday night. The crowd was small and the choices were not great. There were one bunch of Russian girls who were apparently under the control of one mamasan. They stick and play together at a corner of the bar table and did not show any enthusiasm to approach guests for business. I saw some chinese guys only dealing with the mamasan. I approached one of the girls who had great body and sex appeal but rather covered up in her long-sleeve shirts and long pants and the response was "NO ENGLISH". "How much?". "NO". WTF!?!
To cut the story short, I ended up with taking back a girl from Uzbezkistan. Some problems bringing her back to the hotel at 01:00 at this local-chinese 4-star hotel around WangFuJing. The manager in-charge asked for ID and stuff. So I registered her at the reception and off we go. I would rate this hotel semi-GF-ly. One reason is probably the hotel has in-house KTV which they are tring to protect their own business interests. Anybody has any good experience with any 4-star hotel around WangFuJing?
Back in the room, she asked me to prepare hot-water while she was looking for ice. No ice in the fridge but cold water would do the job. My hands were busy all over her sexy body and kissing while waiting for the water to boil for around 10 minutes. After that she did her ice-and-fire CBJ for about 10 minutes and her skill was wonderful. Then my turn. I DATY her for about 15 minutes and her moan broke the silence of the hotel aisle.... "yes...yes...ah...ah...". Then I started to mount her in conventional style and bonk until I came..... We were both happy "couple" lying on the bed and fondle before heading to the shower room together. I paid her RMB20 extra on top of the RMB800 market rate and I am happily satisfied.[/QUOTE]
I'm in Beijing and will be coming back frequently. What are the top 3 KTVs in Beijing? Since I'll be entertaining clients, price isn't much of an option.
I'the like hot girls, some english spoken, and a consistent reliable experience. A place that rewards a frequent high-end customer.
I've read most of the reviews, but was hoping someone could put them into some type of quick ranking for me. It seems that Passions in the Sheraton and the Peninsula have high-end KTVs, but if there are better places to go on a recurring basis please let me know.
I also travel to Shanghai and Shenzhen and I'm looking for the same info on those cities, so if you have any info on them please see my other posts.
Thank you.
[QUOTE=Capn Spudz]I finally found the building after a fair amount of searching. Turns out I was almost right there the whole time. Where is the MP? I see a sign for SPA but I don't see how to get to it.[/QUOTE]
Go to the basement.
[QUOTE=Swatch Guy]Went to Hollywood at 22:00 on Sunday night. The crowd was small and the choices were not great. There were one bunch of Russian girls who were apparently under the control of one mamasan. They stick and play together at a corner of the bar table and did not show any enthusiasm to approach guests for business. I saw some chinese guys only dealing with the mamasan. I approached one of the girls who had great body and sex appeal but rather covered up in her long-sleeve shirts and long pants and the response was "NO ENGLISH". "How much?". "NO". WTF!?!
To cut the story short, I ended up with taking back a girl from Uzbezkistan. Some problems bringing her back to the hotel at 01:00 at this local-chinese 4-star hotel around WangFuJing. The manager in-charge asked for ID and stuff. So I registered her at the reception and off we go. I would rate this hotel semi-GF-ly. One reason is probably the hotel has in-house KTV which they are tring to protect their own business interests. Anybody has any good experience with any 4-star hotel around WangFuJing?
Back in the room, she asked me to prepare hot-water while she was looking for ice. No ice in the fridge but cold water would do the job. My hands were busy all over her sexy body and kissing while waiting for the water to boil for around 10 minutes. After that she did her ice-and-fire CBJ for about 10 minutes and her skill was wonderful. Then my turn. I DATY her for about 15 minutes and her moan broke the silence of the hotel aisle.... "yes...yes...ah...ah...". Then I started to mount her in conventional style and bonk until I came..... We were both happy "couple" lying on the bed and fondle before heading to the shower room together. I paid her RMB20 extra on top of the RMB800 market rate and I am happily satisfied.[/QUOTE]
Mate it sounds like you got a pretty good experience with this one - almost GFE - most of the Hollywood girls will just want you to finish ASAP so they can get back and turn another trick.
Did you scoop up this Uzbek girl on LHS of bar as you enter? This is usually the side the Uzbeks stand on - but also they are usually quite firm in there fuck me quick, CBJ only, no pictures, no GFE demands - so you did quite well with this one.
The Russian girls that you first mentioned - they almost always stand at opposite end of bar to where you enter - yes they are controlled by a dark haired Russian mamasan - total mechanical experience with these girls.
But my god are some of them stunning - these girls come direct from Russia to work this beat - often returning over and over - but also some of them branch out and freelance.
[QUOTE=Jax Dude]I also travel to Shanghai and Shenzhen and I'm looking for the same info on those cities, so if you have any info on them please see my other posts.Thank you.[/QUOTE]'Dude, I dont have much on KTVs but I wont tell you to RTFF either. This was a decent request and I am also looking forward to the responses. BUT, you're a regular member with 1 post. How can we see your others???
Sid
I'm a chronic lurker.
I've been to Macau (Sauna 18. Twice) but I'm too lazy to post what's typical and well known. I'm planning on checking out the Rio in a few weeks and I'll post on that should I remember cause there's less postings on that.
I've also been to Fenwick's in HK where I picked up a beautiful Colombian blonde back in September. Experience was rather mechanical though. I have determined that the Island is great during the week and drops off dramatically on Friday night. So weekends in HK seem better on the Kowloon side or in Macau.
In Beijing during my last stay, I was at the Grand Hyatt and got comped a massage by the hotel. At the end I was asked if I wanted a HJ. I declined, but I did think it was weird to get offered at the Grand Hyatt.
In the USA I usually pickup strippers in South FL or NY city.
[QUOTE=SidTheSexist]'Dude, I dont have much on KTVs but I wont tell you to RTFF either. This was a decent request and I am also looking forward to the responses. BUT, you're a regular member with 1 post. How can we see your others???
Sid[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]Mate it sounds like you got a pretty good experience with this one - almost GFE - most of the Hollywood girls will just want you to finish ASAP so they can get back and turn another trick.
Did you scoop up this Uzbek girl on LHS of bar as you enter? This is usually the side the Uzbeks stand on - but also they are usually quite firm in there fuck me quick, CBJ only, no pictures, no GFE demands - so you did quite well with this one.
The Russian girls that you first mentioned - they almost always stand at opposite end of bar to where you enter - yes they are controlled by a dark haired Russian mamasan - total mechanical experience with these girls.
But my god are some of them stunning - these girls come direct from Russia to work this beat - often returning over and over - but also some of them branch out and freelance.[/QUOTE]The Uzbek girl was sitting at the bar facing the entrance. The girl I scored was Monica.
You are right that some of the Russian girls are quite stunning. They also returned quite often to Beijing. I saw one of the stunning girls whom I fucked last year. I don't think she remembered me.
Monday night, headed to Hollywood after work at 22:00. Grab a beer, sat at the bar opposite the entrance next to where the "mechanical" Russian girls were sitting. These days there is growing number of Mongolian girls working in Hollywood. Most of them left at 00:00 to Maggies' after scoring some quickies business at Hollywood. So I chatted up some of the Mongolian girls, played a pool with one sexy Russian girl. She offered RMB1000 one-pop in her room which I declined. Reason was she had bad experience with hotel takout and she was really sexy. Chatted up with one businessman about work and all the bad business encounters in China. We had a couple of beers before his business partner arrived at around 00:00. Then our conversation turned to girls and bars and how much we don't like Carlsberg!!!
So three of us decided to hit the road, take a RMB11 cab to Maggies'. There we had TsingTao, (nice beers!); each of us went on our own business with "shopping", playing pools, dancing and picking up girls for our next final bar-hopping. 2 hours passed and 3 of us left with 4 other Mongolian girls. This time, we hopped onto 2 cabs which took us to "Pectropar" (sorry for misspell) Russian bar around the corner from Hollywood. Heard of and passed by this bar many times but it was my first time having a chance to patron the bar. Great bar and the thundering music could be heard from just outside the bar. 02:00. We had 2 tables for ourselves, some bottles of Vodka. Great bar with great disco music and live performances. After some sips of the Vodka and cigaretes, we went dancing at the dance floor at the front and the great disco music was great enough to take you into new heights. I saw the bunch of "mechanical" Russian girls working in Hollywood dancing at the dance floor! Looks like they were happier there than working for the mamasan in Hollywood! This fat-burning Vodka-dance-Vodka round went on relentlessly for some 3-and-half hours before all of us were exhausted. I was happy I had picked up a very nice Mongolian girl who was a good drinker, and excellent dancer, without her I wouldn't have been able to perform that well on the dance floor.... So I left with her at 05:30 in the morning, half-drunk! God the sky was bright, just to realize amidst my drunkenness that it was Summer!
Back at the hotel, we showered and just slept. A few hours later, I woke her up to have a pop. Then, slept until evening the next day before taking her for dinner, paying her RMB800 and send her home with some food that we could finish at a Chinese restaurant in WangFuJing. I saw a Maggies' chinese waitress in the restaurant having dinner with 3 caucasians and she didn't pick up the call when I rang her up on the spot.
3 bars, 3 types of alcohol (Carlsbreg, TsingTao, Vodka), 3 guys, and a great party night that I call "Golden Triangle" all within walking distance!
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[QUOTE=SidTheSexist]20rmb???? Is that a miss print for 200? Sorry, I'm just laughing too myself wondering about the look on her face for an extra 20!!!
Sid[/QUOTE]
What Sid said ....
[QUOTE=SidTheSexist]20rmb? Is that a miss print for 200? Sorry, I'm just laughing too myself wondering about the look on her face for an extra 20!
Sid[/QUOTE]No, just cab fee.
ok, my first real newbie report. i realize this could probably
be in the "general" or "living in china" section, but because i'll
fill in detail once i have it (and because i focus on the beijing
list) i'll post it here.
** warning: don't read the following if you are looking for something
really juicy. it isn't here. it might be there in a subsequent
post. **
in a recent post, i wondered about a possible bbs, not every having
seen one myself. as the venerable ap indicated, this is almost
certainly not a bbs, i looked more carefully today. i did find
massage opportunities in a pool locker room, but it was an older
man offering. probably would have been a great massage, actually.
so, determined to venture out, i went a-wandering. i figured,
"damn, let's just see what i can find, how hard can this be?"
so i walked, and walked, probably a mile inside of the 4th ring
road. i turned off a major road (no idea which one) and tried some
of the side streets.
i passed a huge apartment complex, and there was a whirling
lit sign that caught my eye! so i went in gate, and walked around
a bit, going by it several times. there were words on the whirling
sign, something like "mei rong me fa" which i think is like a
beautician. i had my pocket dictionary with me, but it was pitch
dark in most places. i had to go out onto the street to read
anything. not exactly very discreet, but i probably stick out like
a sore thumb, anyway.
so, i did a few more passes, peering inside. there was a fairly
attractive girl in a bright red slinky dress! ah - making progres,
i thought. but, what if it were a nail salon, or a proper business?
i've never seen anything like it. i think she saw me, but she didn't
get up to try to get me inside or anything. i didn't know what to
think.
so i walked out of the complex, down the street, looking for other
places. i thought they might cluster together if the neighborhood
were appropriate. didn't see anything else, but got lots of stares.
so i head back for another pass, and this guy comes out. so i figure,
what the hell. i go up to him with my dictionary open, and point
to "massage parlour" which is "anmoyuan" i think. he looked at me,
gave me a big smile, and said, "anmoyuan, anmoyuan". at least, i
think he did.
at that point, i was getting pretty tired and hungry. and i didn't
really know what the protocol was for an off-the-track bbs. so i
wanted to get back here to the security of isg, and to save the
toftt for another day.
so - here is the only question of the post. i speak no chinese.
suppose i walk in, pull out my dictionary, point to "anmoyuan" and
"duoshao qian" (how much?) - i assume i'll get escorted to some
room. would she write a price down, and if so, what would this be,
for a straight massage? i'd probably get undressed. i actually
wouldn't mind a massage. i would expect an upsell on the flip,
perhaps? off the beaten track, what is typical pricing for a
massage and hj, for example? based on what i read in sammy's guide
i'm guessing 200-300 off the beaten track might get massage with hj
included. and who knows how negotiations for fs might progress
with only a pocket dictionary. but for starters a cheap massage and
hj would be just fine with this newbie monger to beijing.
<removed rambling about dinner experience with a waitress coming on to me, because clearly that didn't interest at least two readers>
ok. i would appreciate any advice on the bbs front, and i'll report
back.
nbg
[QUOTE=Swatch Guy]The Uzbek girl was sitting at the bar facing the entrance. The girl I scored was Monica.
You are right that some of the Russian girls are quite stunning. They also returned quite often to Beijing. I saw one of the stunning girls whom I fucked last year. I don't think she remembered me.[/QUOTE]
I have also had some good luck with russian women. One particular nice interaction I remember is with Olga. She has been in China for several years and speaks both English and Chinese.
nbjg:
cripes allmighty, stop acting like a teenager and just freakin' go for it. do you have confidence issues ? no risk, no reward. bj is one of the easiest towns to get laid in in the world. at your pace, you won't get your rocks off until the olympics next year.
not trying to be too harsh on you, but your last post could very well be the most boring post of all time. go to maggies and get yourself raped by a hot mongolian who takes command. or come over to shanghai and get some girl to tongue fu@! your butt and give you a blowjob while she is dangling upside-down from red ropes. then spooge on her tits. or, if you want to check out the bbs's in beijing , just walk in, point to your dick, then the girls mouth or crotch. wtf you need a dictionary for ?
have fun brother, at least you are coming to the boards. that's got to count for something.
At Newbeijingguy
There is nothing wrong for being cautious nowadays in BJ, providing that games are coming and that the PSB is on the look up.
Between Jun till today, I counted 27 BBS shut down in only 2 districts.
It is also an A+ to be nice to working staffs, I. E. When they are nice to you.
In regards of BBS, yes, you don't need to speak any words, and playing shi is also another big +
Let them undress you! They always enjoy it.
BBS are easy to spot, they are little sops with those (useally blue) barber lights rotating vertically. You will see one to six or more girls seating inside and waiting. They will rarely invite you in unless you are standing by the glass door.
ALWAYS chose the girl wearing the skirt. Most of the time she will let you finger her. 80% of streets BBS offer HJ only. Regular price for HJ is 100RMB. Locals have it for 50 to 70RMB.
(I have been in China for 4 years please trust me)
When you come into the litle BBS, pickup the girl. Don't play around and start to walk inside whatever corridor you see. Act like you are in control. But always be kind and smile A LOT!. The girl will manage to pass you, and show you her working station. Narrow working separated with long curtains or plywood.
Announce your price!
"e by" = 100. DO NOT FALL into her game, she will go to 200, then 150. Act like you are walking away, she will grab you and agree to 100.
Keep smiling it is all a game. You have guys here getting their "didi" jerked off for 1000RMB.
You, you are the man and get your HJ for 100RMB.
Yes you can touch her tits, and more.
Remember this is about HJ.
Have fun bargaining! I dare you to get a HJ for 50RMB!
200 = r by
250 = r by who sh
300 = san by
350 = san by who sh
exactly. instead of wandering around in residential areas "a mile inside of 4th ring road" (omg) the first order of business of any healthy heterosexual newcomer to the nation's capital should be:
- [url]http://www.maggiesbar.com/weizhi.htm[/url]
- print out the map
- hand it to the taxi driver (not earlier that 10:30 pm)
- pick any of the available mongolians (= asians with hips & chests)
- go for it
no dictionary necessary. dick suffices.
but the "fliend in restaurant" is a new one. she wasn't a beijinger, they have no plobrems with l & r. which lestaulant was that anyway? the steak joint at the lido?
the 300 rmb kobe steak was from australia, if you are lucky.
[quote=lao ma]nbjg:
cripes allmighty, stop acting like a teenager and just freakin' go for it. do you have confidence issues ? no risk, no reward. bj is one of the easiest towns to get laid in in the world. at your pace, you won't get your rocks off until the olympics next year.
not trying to be too harsh on you, but your last post could very well be the most boring post of all time. go to maggies and get yourself raped by a hot mongolian who takes command. or come over to shanghai and get some girl to tongue fu@! your butt and give you a blowjob while she is dangling upside-down from red ropes. then spooge on her tits. or, if you want to check out the bbs's in beijing , just walk in, point to your dick, then the girls mouth or crotch. wtf you need a dictionary for ?
have fun brother, at least you are coming to the boards. that's got to count for something.[/quote]
[quote=lao ma]nbjg:
cripes allmighty, stop acting like a teenager and just freakin' go for it. do you have confidence issues ? no risk, no reward. bj is one of the easiest towns to get laid in in the world. at your pace, you won't get your rocks off until the olympics next year.
not trying to be too harsh on you, but your last post could very well be the most boring post of all time. go to maggies and get yourself raped by a hot mongolian who takes command. or come over to shanghai and get some girl to tongue fu@! your butt and give you a blowjob while she is dangling upside-down from red ropes. then spooge on her tits. or, if you want to check out the bbs's in beijing , just walk in, point to your dick, then the girls mouth or crotch. wtf you need a dictionary for ?
have fun brother, at least you are coming to the boards. that's got to count for something.[/quote]
dude, i'm a working stiff during the week with barely a free moment to get stiff. maggies is on the schedule but i can't to take-out until the weekend. between trying not to get ripped off by taxi drivers and dealing with this bloody heat, i feel like i've got my hands full right now. sorry to bore you. as i warned very clearly at the head of the long post, it wasn't going to be for everyone. i probably screwed up, it should have been in "living in china". and maybe i just don't have your libido -- i'm an old fart.
just trying to contribute something new. surely i won't have anything to say about maggies that hasn't been said before. but i hope i'm wrong about that. ha.
nbg
[QUOTE=Zhuren]Exactly. Instead of wandering around in residential areas "a mile inside of 4th ring road" (OMG) the first order of business of ANY healthy heterosexual newcomer to the Nation's Capital should be:
- [url]http://www.maggiesbar.com/weizhi.htm[/url]
- print out the map
- hand it to the taxi driver (not earlier that 10:30 pm)
- pick any of the available Mongolians (= Asians with hips & chests)
- go for it
No dictionary necessary. Dick suffices.[/QUOTE]
Very helpful advice for someone staying downtown with lots of free time. If that is your situation, great! Lucky you. But not everyone follows that plan when visiting Beijing I expect. Gimmie a break, maybe everyone would be happier if I just lurked like the 1000's of others you never hear from on the board.
You have good intentions, I realize. No offense intended.
NBG
Hello Folks,
Does anybody hav any experiences with girls putting their ad in That's Beijing?
Are they usually heading for sex and money or not?
First of all, let me thank you for the adjective you used to qualify me.
I agree with others, don't worry about language and don't be afraid of not being understood/not understanding.
I don't speak a word of chinese, but I never had a problem to manage situations in BBS.
People there know what you may want, so they know how to make themselves understood. As Lao Ma well said, use your hands to explain what you desire. Don't be shy, if you can put your pants down, you can talk "dirty" with hands and face gestures too.
I should be in Beijing again in a few weeks.
As I have never been to Maggie's (hard to confess for a "venerable"), maybe I can invite you to join for a visit to that club.
No, actually you will guide me, as by that time you will be a Maggie's regular ;-)
If you insist on taking a passive approach to things, you could try something like walking around fairly late and taking note of those places that still appear to be welcoming people in. Though certainly no guarantee, I imagine not too many people are getting haircuts and shampoo at that hour. Then, at your leisure, visit them for a massage. They'll probably manage well enough to figure something out that you want. All this and you won't have to initiate a single sentence.
[QUOTE=Newbeijingguy]Very helpful advice for someone staying downtown with lots of free time. If that is your situation, great! Lucky you. But not everyone follows that plan when visiting Beijing I expect. Gimmie a break, maybe everyone would be happier if I just lurked like the 1000's of others you never hear from on the board.
You have good intentions, I realize. No offense intended.
NBG[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Albert Punter]First of all, let me thank you for the adjective you used to qualify me.
I agree with others, don't worry about language and don't be afraid of not being understood/not understanding.
I don't speak a word of chinese, but I never had a problem to manage situations in BBS.
People there know what you may want, so they know how to make themselves understood. As Lao Ma well said, use your hands to explain what you desire. Don't be shy, if you can put your pants down, you can talk "dirty" with hands and face gestures too.
I should be in Beijing again in a few weeks.
As I have never been to Maggie's (hard to confess for a "venerable"), maybe I can invite you to join for a visit to that club.
No, actually you will guide me, as by that time you will be a Maggie's regular ;-)[/QUOTE]
A Maggie's regular? No. But it is undeniably a "must do" at the very least, as anyone on here knows, even if they have never been to Beijing. Let's settle for the "blind leading the blind", then.
Another worldly "must do" is Babylon in Vienna. If you don't know, do a search on those two words. If you do know, then, well, you know. So I realize it is a different market segment from the BBS, but if you can't do take-out, is there a Beijing version of Babylon?
Heading out to do battle, unfazed...
NBG
No, I didn't know Babylon.
For what I understand from website, it is a place where you go to meet girls, only if you like as they don't push you (but you like, otherwise why spending so much money just for a dinner). Then you can book a room and go upstairs with the girl (you pay the girl direct for the service).
I remember some similar places in Sao Paulo, Brazil.
Here in China you cannot find such places.
Of course you can have sex on premises, in saunas and BBS, but I believe atmosphere is different from that Babylon.
[QUOTE=Newbeijingguy]
...
So I realize it is a different market segment from the BBS, but if you can't do take-out, is there a Beijing version of Babylon?
...
NBG[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Newbeijingguy]
Another worldly "must do" is Babylon in Vienna. If you don't know, do a search on those two words. If you do know, then, well, you know. So I realize it is a different market segment from the BBS, but if you can't do take-out, is there a Beijing version of Babylon?
NBG[/QUOTE]
There is no Beijing version of Babylon, nor a Chinese version. AFAIK, there isn't even a real strip club anywhere in China (except underground.) I wish there would be a Maggies in Berlin .... Or a Kitkat Club in Beijing.
Now seriously, if you can't do take-out in Beijing (the best and safest option) and if you like places like Babylon, then you should opt for the up-scale saunas. Lots of references to them right in that forum.
Every country has its specialties. Enjoy.
[QUOTE=Zhuren]There is no Beijing version of Babylon, nor a Chinese version. AFAIK, there isn't even a real strip club anywhere in China (except underground.) I wish there would be a Maggies in Berlin .... Or a Kitkat Club in Beijing.
Now seriously, if you can't do take-out in Beijing (the best and safest option) and if you like places like Babylon, then you should opt for the up-scale saunas. Lots of references to them right in that forum.
Every country has its specialties. Enjoy.[/QUOTE]
Yes, I remember reading about them and will certainly give one a try. In Berlin, I think FKK is popular there, which I expect many on this board would find as interesting as Maggies (although again, probably not for takeout).
NBG
First BBS: I walk in, try to indicate what I want. The girls
are sitting around playing cards and barely look up. I think
a few looked a little scared, one looks at me, without getting
up, and says something that I can only assume meant "Ugly
Foreigner, you are not welcome here." I took off. Maybe it
wasn't BBS. Nothing lost by trying though.
Second BBS, the one I scoped out in my earlier tediously long
pseudo-report:
Walked in, was immediately taken by the hand by a real cutie
and ushered into a cubicle with a massage table and a chair.
I tried to follow rule #1: immediately strip so she knows you know
the game. Except she wouldn't let me get my buckle undone and
had me get up on the table shirtless. A very interesting massage
followed, which was rather frantic rather than sensual, but
good enough. All the while she was trying to talk with me.
I tried talking back to her, but her command of English seemed
significantly worse than my three words of Chinese. This was
probably 30 minutes or so.
She had me flip, and gave me the universal signal for HJ,
to which I smiled and nodded. Mission accomplished. After
cleaning up, she went back to work for another 15 minutes.
I should note, she had beautiful silky-smooth hair and was petite
(I'm sure you know the girl !-)). She also had spectacular teeth.
The only Brits I know with teeth that perfect had braces and
bleaching, and I could make the same statement about Americans.
I was surprised, but perhaps in my ignorance I shouldn't have
been.
So I get dressed and grab my wallet, having no idea what she
was saying. I think it could have been "You want to be the
father of my children, even though your dick isn't that big?"
But it might also have been, "Mr. Ugly Foreigner, you pay me
now." So I handed her 300, figuring I definitely just wanted
a clean escape my first time out and that seemed more than fair.
She looked perplexed, and I braced for the negotiation, gathering
my wits about me. She held out the 200, gesturing that she would
keep the 100. WTF? I'm no dummy, I stayed strong and looked
very serious to convince her I was a worthy opponent. I took the
100, leaving her the 200. Overcome by my brilliant tactics,
she flashed me a 1,000,000 Yuan smile that cost only 100 Yuan
extra. Priceless.
Now, I deserve some shit for this, and will take it like a man.
Come to think of it, some normal shit would be welcome right now.
I seem to have the intestinal fortitude of a British schoolgirl. But I
eat anything put in front of me, and clearly there are consequences.
AP, and anyone else, I will go to Maggies on Sunday. If you test
out the ISG code phrase and I immediately offer to buy you a beer,
you might have found me.
NBG
[QUOTE=Newbeijingguy]Yes, I remember reading about them and will certainly give one a try. In Berlin, I think FKK is popular there, which I expect many on this board would find as interesting as Maggies (although again, probably not for takeout).
NBG[/QUOTE]
Actually, Berlin was one of the last cities to hop on the FKK bandwagon, but with introduction of the Artemis, they did so with abandon.
And no, absolutely no take-out in an FKK, these places operate on inventory velocity.
To get back to Beijing: A place full of buck-naked blondes would be a hit here (for two days, whereupon it would be made an example for the unacceptability of hooliganism.) The pricing structure however would not survive in this market:
[B]Berlin FKK[/B]
Entrance fee FKK - 70 EUR
30 minute FKK action - 60 EUR
(For a true, bottom-line accounting, see [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=620307#post620307[/url] )
[B]Maggie's[/B]
Entrance fee: 0
Drink: 6 EUR
One night Ms. Ulan Bator - 80 EUR
However: Congratulations on getting somewhere in BJ! The rest will be easy.
Maybe we should all go to M's on Sunday for the introductionary event.
Doogie is back in town, a sweet member of the Mongolian embassy with HUGE breasts. She'll keep you up all night.
I'll withhold comment on your negotiation strategy.
We all pay our tuition fees in a strange new town. It reminds me of my first week in the Nation's Capital years ago. I had been introduced to wonderful local (Chinese) talent at "The House" - a BJ institution that is sadly gone. At the time, the nightly fee for a 8-9.5 beauty was quoted at US 200. Very satisfied - and used to Manhattan prices - I tipped her $100 in the morning. She was happy, came back every evening after 5, even supplied one or two other beauties for a lesser fee.
Then one Monday, I was called into a meeting with my new boss, and several stern looking Vice Presidents were sitting around the table. I was clearly in trouble.
Boss: "It has come to my attention that you paid $300 to a Chinese female."
Me: "Well, Sir, you know, how shall I say ...."
Boss: "Have you been briefed on the proper conduct in that city?"
Me: "Ah, well, I guess, maybe I did not listen carefully, I apologize ..."
Boss: "How DARE you, you effing moron!"
Me: "It won't happen again, I promise."
Boss: "I'll only say this once, and never again: The standard fee for the night is $200 for a Chinese, and $100 for a Mongolian, get it in your head and write it down. If we catch you again ruining the prices, we'll kick your sorry ass out of here! Several gentlemen in this room have received OUTRAGEOUS requests of $300 based on your totally unacceptable behavior! We all suffer for your stupidity! Expect your salary to be docked. Out!!!!"
Live and learn ....
[QUOTE=Infomatic].(I have been in China for 4 years please trust me)
200 = r by
250 = r by who sh
300 = san by
350 = san by who sh[/QUOTE]Most of what you said was spot on. But for someone who seems to know everything and has been in BJ for 4 long years, this has got to be the poorest attempt at pinyin Ive seen! :D
Sid
I think city of Bejing is not ready for the 2008 game and city planning is poor. When I was there a few months ago the airport is a mess, lack of sign in english, and I have a time even finding a exit to the street and I speak and can read chinese. The airport is old and need upgrade badly.
Bejing should have planned for a new subway line and new airport long ago and I just learn that 2 new subway line from city to airport will not be complete until 2009 after the games. Vry poor planning .
Just my IMHO,
Fast eddie 48
[QUOTE=Zhuren]I'll withhold comment on your negotiation strategy. We all pay our tuition fees in a strange new town. It reminds me of my first week in the Nation's Capital years ago. I had been introduced to wonderful local (Chinese) talent at "The House" - an BJ institution that is sadly gone. At the time, the nightly fee for a 8-9.5 beauty was quoted at US 200. Very satisfied - and used to Manhattan prices - I tipped her $100 in the morning. She was happy, came back every evening after 5, even supplied one or two other beauties for a lesser fee.
Then one Monday, I was called into a meeting with my new boss, and several stern looking Vice Presidents were sitting around the table. I was clearly in trouble.
Boss: "It has come to my attention that you paid $300 to a Chinese female."
Me: "Well, Sir, you know, how shall I say ...."
Boss: "Have you been briefed on the proper conduct in that city?"
Me: "Ah, well, I guess, maybe I did not listen carefully, I apologize ..."
Boss: "How DARE you, you effing moron!"
Me: "It won't happen again, I promise."
Boss: "I'll only say this one time, and never again: The standard fee for the night is $200 for a Chinese, and $100 for a Mongolian. If we catch you again ruining the prices, we'll kick your sorry ass out of here! Several gentlemen in this room have received OUTRAGEOUS requests of $300 based on your totally unacceptable behavior! We all suffer for your stupidity! Expect your salary to be docked. Out!!!!"
Live and learn ....[/QUOTE]
Absolutely. It could be that I missed something in the pricing structure reading the boards, in which case I certainly deserve to have my salary docked. My choice of 300 was based on Sammy's guide, since nobody answered my questions about off-the-beaten track BBS pricing. However, I did another quick search, and turned up a few interesting posts:
1. At 250 for HJ, I did better than this fellow.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=626970&highlight=pricing#post626970[/url]
2. This fellow only got a bad massage, no HJ for his 200.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=609242&highlight=sammy#post609242[/url]
Of course, we all dream for the 2-girls for 300 deal that I vaguely remember seeing somewhere.
NBG
[QUOTE=Newbeijingguy]AP, and anyone else, I will go to Maggies on Sunday. If you test out the ISG code phrase and I immediately offer to buy you a beer, you might have found me.
NBG[/QUOTE]
Sunday is not a bad night to go to Maggie's, but it is slower than a normal week day night. Do not expect to find much there before 11 pm. If you are killing time you may want to stop by the Pig in the Holiday Inn Lido around 10. This should at least give you a preview of things to come.
I have some straight laced business partners in town, so it will be difficult for me to sneak away on Sunday, but I will try. Hope to see you at Maggie's!
Sammy
[QUOTE=Sammy_T]Sunday is not a bad night to go to Maggie's, but it is slower than a normal week day night. Do not expect to find much there before 11 pm. If you are killing time you may want to stop by the Pig in the Holiday Inn Lido around 10. This should at least give you a preview of things to come.
I have some straight laced business partners in town, so it will be difficult for me to sneak away on Sunday, but I will try. Hope to see you at Maggie's!
Sammy[/QUOTE]
For an introductory session, Sunday is hao hao. Too much male competition on Fri & Sat. On Monday, my favorite bar maidens all have their days off.
Sunday it is.
I recommend against the Pig, but that's just me.
[QUOTE=SidTheSexist]Most of what you said was spot on. But for someone who seems to know everything and has been in BJ for 4 long years, this has got to be the poorest attempt at pinyin Ive seen! :D
Sid[/QUOTE]That wasn't pinyin per say - But phonetically speaking.
[QUOTE=Infomatic]That wasn't pinyin per say - But phonetically speaking.[/QUOTE]
On the grounds that your English is also phonetically written - you are excused ;)
[QUOTE=Zhuren]For an introductory session, Sunday is hao hao. Too much male competition on Fri & Sat. On Monday, my favorite bar maidens all have their days off.
Sunday it is.
I recommend against the Pig, but that's just me.[/QUOTE]
Slow and laid back is great with me. Now I need to go back and read up on the tipping protocol. Hope to meet a few of you Sunday.
NBG
[QUOTE=Newbeijingguy]Now I need to go back and read up on the tipping protocol.
NBG[/QUOTE]
I do come to Beijing regularly and had met a couple of great guys like Sammy T, etc..
Please excuse me as I was not following that much on this threads but I do have a question:
Is tipping a requirement in Beijing?
I been living in China (Shanghai) for the past 2 years and had travelled to different parts of China. However it does seems like tipping is not a must for all those cities I had been to. Occassionally if I do bring girls back to my hotel, I may tip her 20 or 30RMB for trnasport if she gives me good services. However as I knew, a lot of guys on the board are against tipping policy.
So please tell me if I am doing something wrong in here. Appreciate if I get your expert advices from Beijing Regulars / Residents.
Thanks.
Enjoy!
AG
NBG: Sorry, no flaming intended but I really like to know the answer.
[QUOTE=Newbeijingguy]Slow and laid back is great with me. Now I need to go back and read up on the tipping protocol. Hope to meet a few of you Sunday.
NBG[/QUOTE]
Don't take Maggie's tipping cues from me ... I'm generous with my girls.
- No sitting, no tipping.
- Sit and entertain you all night by Chinese bargirl: 300-500
- No tips for the Mongolians at the bar. They are happy if you buy them a drink.
- Rack rate for Mongolians (and do they ever have racks: ) 800 RMB
- Tipping after good service: Optional
We'll assist you. You'll be in good hands. No dictionary necessary.
[QUOTE=Ace Gallant]
Is tipping a requirement in Beijing?
[/QUOTE]
Generally: No.
If you tip a taxi driver, he'll think you are crazy (and he'll take the money.)
In a popular restaurant, tip the girl that gets you a table (if you want to come back.) It will assure you a better table and priority service next time.
At Maggie's, if you sit with a bargirl (=Chinese) you are EXPECTED to tip her. She doesn't make any money off your drinks, as weird as it may sound. 300-500. If she starts pushing too many drinks ( = job security) explain to her that you'd rather tip her personally than add to the bottom line of the establishment. She'll understand - if she trusts you.
Maggie's take-out: If you pay the rack rate (800) no tipping required. Not even taxi money (if you lodge within reasonable distance.) If you pick her up early, and she's a looker, then she'll want to go back for more customers. Up to you to strike a deal if you want her for the night. If you pick her up late, and she's already been in the sauce, she'll usually happily sleep in your bed than going home to an apartment shared with 3-4 sisters from Ulan Bator.
Interesting piece of trivia: They usually collect after the fact. Don't cheat them. Word gets around quickly, and the Maggies security detail is effective and well connected.
So who's in for the [B]NewBeijingGuy Maggie's Introductionary Seminar[/B], Sunday 8/12 at say 11pm? First round (of drinks ... ) on me.
- Member Club or Open Access? - Maggie's Security Staff
- Drink a Blowjob - Maggie's Bar Staff
- Learn the difference between a Chinese and a Mongolian - Linda & Doogie
- To tip or not to tip? - Karen and Gary
- How not to behave at Maggie's - a demonstration by Zhuren
- Maggie's for $5 a night - presentation by Infomatic
How to get there: [url]http://www.maggiesbar.com/weizhi.htm[/url]
On your GPS: Maggie's lat=39.9121507206, lon=116.437509916
Satellite view: [url]http://maps.google.com/?q=Beijing,+China&hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=39.912044,116.437168&spn=0.011057,0.011415&t=k&z=16&iwloc=addr&om=1[/url]
[QUOTE=Ace Gallant]Is tipping a requirement in Beijing?[/QUOTE]You are an old timer in this country, and BJ ain't that different comparing to other PRC's large cities.
Tips come from your heart, no matter the situation.
Taxi drivers will gladly take your 2Y change from a 20Y fare.
I often leave few kuais behind me. However, I never gave 300RMB to any girl seating beside me, wile smiling for 20 minutes.
Others do it for me.
[QUOTE=Zhuren]So who's in for the [B]NewBeijingGuy Maggie's Introductionary Seminar[/B], Sunday 8/12 at say 11pm? First round (of drinks ... ) on me.
- Drink a Blowjob
- Learn the difference between a Chinese and a Mongolian
- To tip or not to tip?
- How not to behave at Maggie's - a demonstration by Zhuren
How to get there: [url]http://www.maggiesbar.com/weizhi.htm[/url][/QUOTE]
Jeez guys I would love to be in this but alas I do not arrive Beijing until Aug 20.
I will be in Maggies on Aug 20, Aug 25, 26 and 27 - hope to meet you then Zhuren.
Sammy? Intransit? You guys around on any of those nights?
[QUOTE=Infomatic]
Stick with your *****s going for 1000's RMB, and give me some slacks.
[/QUOTE]
Gladly. Your current pair of pants looks a bit faded anyway.
[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]Jeez guys I would love to be in this but alas I do not arrive Beijing until Aug 20.
I will be in Maggies on Aug 20, Aug 25, 26 and 27 - hope to meet you then Zhuren.
Sammy? Intransit? You guys around on any of those nights?[/QUOTE]
Except 8/20, I should be available.
[QUOTE=Zhuren]On the grounds that your English is also phonetically written - you are excused ;)[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Infomatic]You really sound like a pompous hot shit!
Stick with your *****s going for 1000's RMB, and give me some slacks.
What makes you God in here?
[By the way your posts aren't that great or accurate by any means.][/QUOTE]
I do not see anything in Zhuren's post that commands a personal attack like this.
Gentlemen, let's concentrate on the subject of
“Finding women for the purpose of sex”.
and as my good friend from the South said:
"Where's the Pussies at?"
(Copyright of OldAsiaHand, Senior Member, ISG)
Enjoy!
AG
[QUOTE=Ace Gallant]I do come to Beijing regularly and had met a couple of great guys like Sammy T, etc..
Please excuse me as I was not following that much on this threads but I do have a question:
Is tipping a requirement in Beijing?
I been living in China (Shanghai) for the past 2 years and had travelled to different parts of China. However it does seems like tipping is not a must for all those cities I had been to. Occassionally if I do bring girls back to my hotel, I may tip her 20 or 30RMB for trnasport if she gives me good services. However as I knew, a lot of guys on the board are against tipping policy.
So please tell me if I am doing something wrong in here. Appreciate if I get your expert advices from Beijing Regulars / Residents.
Thanks.
Enjoy!
AG
NBG: Sorry, no flaming intended but I really like to know the answer.[/QUOTE]
No, it is a very good question. When I wrote it, I was thinking about what I read earlier about tipping a girl in Maggie's if she stays with you for the evening (even if you don't do take-out). But I need to go back and read more carefully, my memory is fuzzy.
NBG
[QUOTE=Infomatic]You are an old timer in this country, and BJ ain't that different comparing to other PRC's large cities.
Tips come from your heart, no matter the situation.
Taxi drivers will gladly take your 2Y change from a 20Y fare.
I often leave few kuais behind me. However, I never gave 300RMB to any girl seating beside me, wile smiling for 20 minutes.
Others do it for me.[/QUOTE]
IMHO:
Generalizing is bad; A wise friend taught me "Assumption is the mother of all fuckups!"
I do not assume that Beijing is like all other big cities in China. Although Beijing is Big like other big cities in China, it is also the capital city of China. The capital cities of most countries are exposed to tourists and foreigners who had brought their culture from their own homeland. For this case; we are also ones who brought from the States the habit of tipping.
I agree with you that tips comes from our heart, I would tip a waitress a little more if she provides good service, I would tip the pros if she gave me good and satisfying time. But in understanding from what the Zhuren said that the Bar girls do not gets a commission from your drinks, I would tip them as a standard practice from now onwards. Like what you said; its from your heart so; whether its 30 RMB or 300RMB it’s a matter of how much appreciation you are showing to her. Zhuren thinks that a 300 – 500RMB tip is in appreciation of the bar girls for spending a whole night sitting and chatting with him, he feel happy about it, so he wants to pass on the happiness to her, so let that be it. If you think the 20 mins smile of your bar girl is not even worth 30RMB so let’s that be it.
For provider who gave me bad service, I would even take the last 1RMB of change while for provider that makes me happy, I do not mind leaving a little more in tips.
I would rather walk away with someone been happy with me than someone who would curse at me.
Enjoy!
AG
I see a few guys will be meeting at Maggies.
I will be here for a year, I just got here two weeks ago. I am working the night shift, 12 hours (6 to 6) 7 days a week.
My first day off will be on the 19th.
I have been looking forward to finally getting to Maggies for a long time.
Anyone want to meet, let me know.
Also, how will I recognize you?
And my request for day time action in a Massage or BBS preferably close to East Third Ring Road (Central) still stands.
I got a reply from Xuehanyu but when I matched the directions with the map, I got even more confused. That does not mean I will not possibly try to find the place some day.
OK, looking forward to seeing you guys.
Pete
[QUOTE=Newbeijingguy]No, it is a very good question. When I wrote it, I was thinking about what I read earlier about tipping a girl in Maggie's if she stays with you for the evening (even if you don't do take-out). But I need to go back and read more carefully, my memory is fuzzy.
NBG[/QUOTE]
NBG: On the curriculum of tomorrow's hands-on lesson is the difference between Chinese Girl and Mongolian Girl as pertaining to Maggie's:
Chinese Girl: At or behind bar. For communication only. Strictly not for take-out. Sit & Tip.
Mongolian Girl: At wall, pool table, couch areas. For take-out. No tipping necessary.
Caucasian Girl: Advanced matter. Sometimes a WG from Siberia. Sometimes the wife of a customer. Proceed with caution.
Tipping trivia: Japanese males (if they can make it past Maggie's security, where they are routinely mistaken as Chinese and denied entry) are held in the lowest regard with Maggie's bar maidens: "Because they don't tip."
I explained:
- In Japan, tipping is regarded as gauche.
- In Japan, a bargirl routinely gets a 30% to 50% cut, and it is not unusual for a hostess in a Ginza bar to go home with $1000 - $2000 per night, and she'll go alone, no sex involved.
Usual reaction: "Can you get me a Japanese visa?"
[QUOTE=Zhuren]NBG: On the curriculum of tomorrow's hands-on lesson is the difference between Chinese Girl and Mongolian Girl as pertaining to Maggie's:
Chinese Girl: At or behind bar. For communication only. Strictly not for take-out. Sit & Tip.
Mongolian Girl: At wall, pool table, couch areas. For take-out. No tipping necessary.
Caucasian Girl: Advanced matter. Sometimes a WG from Siberia. Sometimes the wife of a customer. Proceed with caution.[/QUOTE]
Hm... wife of a customer, or worse, a co-worker. I'll give that particular species a wide birth.
However, for this evening, I'm staying in. I just discovered a set of cohones that I never realized existed. The story involves a nice hotel, an elevator meeting, dinner (20 minutes from now), and we'll see what else. Not sure if it is a possible freebie, but I'd be very surprised if she is a regular WG. A complex situation, though, hopefully with more than a happy ending, to be dissected over drinks in between lessons Sunday PM.
NBG
[QUOTE=Newbeijingguy]Hm... wife of a customer, or worse, a co-worker. I'll give that particular species a wide birth.
However, for this evening, I'm staying in. I just discovered a set of cohones that I never realized existed. The story involves a nice hotel, an elevator meeting, dinner (20 minutes from now), and we'll see what else. Not sure if it is a possible freebie, but I'd be very surprised if she is a regular WG. A complex situation, though, hopefully with more than a happy ending, to be dissected over drinks in between lessons Sunday PM.
NBG[/QUOTE]
Good hunting & see u Sun.
Maggie's finally has rated an entry in Google Earth:
[url]http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=mybusiness&Number=971589[/url]
Too bad that Google still doesn't provide a map of Beijing, the sat image must do.
For as good interactive map of most of China, use [url]http://map.baidu.com/#word=%B1%B1%BE%A9%CA%D0&ct=10[/url]
How about we'd all cooperate and make enties of our favorite spots in Google Earth?
Here a RAR file.
It is a KMZ file from Google Earth, I will update it with BBS soon. (I still need to mark the Pig)
[The key in using Google Earth is to ZOOM in]
My bad. No RAR here, only ZIP.
So here we go:
I have marked +6 nightclubs. 1 area where to drink, dance, and to pickup freebies... 1 street to avoid at all cost. (walk one the opposite sidewalk...)
And 4 pro houses.
So who's in for the [B]NewBeijingGuy Maggie's Introductionary Seminar[/B], Sunday 8/12 at say 11pm? First round (of drinks ... ) on me.
PM for details.
[QUOTE=Zhuren]
- Member Club or Open Access? - Maggie's Security Staff
- Drink a Blowjob - Maggie's Bar Staff
- Learn the difference between a Chinese and a Mongolian - Linda & Doogie
- To tip or not to tip? - Karen and Gary
- How not to behave at Maggie's - a demonstration by Zhuren
- Maggie's for $5 a night - presentation by Infomatic
How to get there: [url]http://www.maggiesbar.com/weizhi.htm[/url]
On your GPS: Maggie's lat=39.9121507206, lon=116.437509916
Satellite view: [url]http://maps.google.com/?q=Beijing,+China&hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=39.912044,116.437168&spn=0.011057,0.011415&t=k&z=16&iwloc=addr&om=1[/url][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Zhuren]
[B]Berlin FKK[/B]
Entrance fee FKK - 70 EUR
30 minute FKK action - 60 EUR
[B]Maggie's[/B]
Entrance fee: 0
Drink: 6 EUR
One night Ms. Ulan Bator - 80 EUR
[/QUOTE]
I just spent 2 wonderful days in FKK Oase in Frankfurt in June. 65 Euro entry and 50 per pop, I did 9 girls over the 2 day period. Although, I did not see any Mongolian girls, there must have been 10-12 other countries represented from which I tasted nearly all of them. You cannot compare prices with Beijing, but it worth every penny to me for this experience and I will do it again in a heartbeat. On the other hand, you cannot even compare Beijing with the rest of China, for example. IMHO, the pussy in Beijing is the most expensive in the country. 100RMB+ for a HJ in a BBS? Most BBS places in Guangdong include a HJ for 35 RMB with a one hour massage. Every place has its specialities and prices. Mongolians are a Beijing speciality that I truly enjoy, as well.
Just my POV.
OAH
[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]I just spent 2 wonderful days in FKK Oase in Frankfurt in June.
OAH[/QUOTE]
I know it well ....
Sorry to bug you, but that's just not how it works.
First, the overlay you uploaded just has the 3rd Ring Road in it, and most people will know where that is. Maybe I'm dense, but I could not find the rest you mentioned.
Second, developing an overlay in Google earth, and then sending it around, does not provide a community service. The secret is to
- mark the spot
- add helpful information
- and then post it in the appropriate Google Forum (such as Travel)
This way, the information is available to all. And references can be sent around as easily as sending a link.
It did it for the Pig. It's a place which I'm not terribly fond of, but anything for the cause.
The Pig on Google Earth: [url]http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=973017[/url]
[QUOTE=Infomatic]My bad. No RAR here, only ZIP.
So here we go:
I have marked +6 nightclubs. 1 area where to drink, dance, and to pickup freebies... 1 street to avoid at all cost. (walk one the opposite sidewalk...)
And 4 pro houses.[/QUOTE]
Guys............Guys.............Guys
Come on - where is the report on NBG losing his virginity in Maggies last night (Sun night).
Did it happen?
Did he score?
Who got drunk and made an arsehole of themselves?
Who hit the jackpot and snared the DOLLY that all the rest were drooling over - come on Guys - give it up please?
[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]Guys............Guys.............Guys
Come on - where is the report on NBG losing his virginity in Maggies last night (Sun night).
Did it happen?
Did he score?
Who got drunk and made an arsehole of themselves?
Who hit the jackpot and snared the DOLLY that all the rest were drooling over - come on Guys - give it up please?[/QUOTE]
Nothing to report that hasn't appeared elsewhere on the board, but I suppose a
summary of some various pearls of wisdom might save someone some trouble. Special
thanks to Zhuren for meeting me there earlier than planned, and making sure I didn't
stray and do something stupid earlier in the evening when I was thinking of
trying to land a quickie before going to Maggies. In approximate chronological
order:
1. If you haven't done this before, there is no substitute for hands-on experience,
particularly with a lot of "hands-on" activity. No matter how well-prepared I
thought I was, and with the benefit of Zhuren's Introductory Seminar, I still
made at least one mistake, and would do things differently next time.
2. Not all Mongolians have curves. My girl (Anna) had family ties to Korea,
though, so may be atypical. However, all the girls are happy to tell you where
they are from. Don't be shy, just ask.
3. Don't get suckered into a game of pool for any stakes (money or drinks)
unless you really know what you are doing. Some of these girls can play.
4. Mixed drinks at Maggies and at the few other bars I've been to taste like there
is no alcohol in them. Watered down? Beats the hell out of me. If you care, have
a beer.
5. At 10 PM, there were 3-5 guys and 20-30 Chinese, 1 Mongolian. Sunday night,
by the way.
6. By 11 PM, the Mongolians magically appeared, along with another dozen guys or so.
Things were in full swing at 11:30, with the ratio starting to be a little worrying.
So, keeping in mind the advice to "grab and go" without hesitation to avoid losing to
another guy, I jumped. I also didn't want to be out until 3 AM. In retrospect, on
a Sunday night, perhaps I jumped too soon.
7. If anyone helps you negotiate (perhaps because the girl's
English is really bad, or your Chinese is worse), be careful. You really want to be
absolutely clear before leaving Maggies what the deal is. ST? LT? LT until when?
Price? You might even want to communicate something along the lines of "look, I don't
want to waste my time or yours, so let's agree now so I don't have to send you packing
from the hotel with only 40 RMB for a taxi."
8. Everyone there seemed really friendly. Got a question about anything? Just ask.
It's not like they haven't seen or heard it before.
9. Plan ahead and figure out what you are going to say when she wants something from
the minibar. "Yes" is one possibility. The answer may vary depending on whether you
are ST (probably easier to say "No" without being a jerk) or LT.
10. Tipping the hotel doormen as you get in the cab to go to Maggies and then again
when you arrive back at the hotel after 11 PM with company will probably help
avoid any trouble at the hotel if you are concerned that it might be "semi-girl-friendly."
11. If you have no language skills, you might want to try to break your Maggie's
cherry with a girl who speaks a fair bit of English. Just a thought.
12. No matter how sweet and GFish she is in Maggies, when it comes to money later,
she's all business, an actress, psychologist, and you are hosed if you aren't ready.
Go back and read #7 and #11.
13. The lighting in Maggies hides makeup detail. Didn't matter in my case, I did
well, but in the light of day she went from model-hot to very attractive. I imagine
it could be worse, so pay attention.
Ok, to wrap up: Anna caught my eye early on, and there seemed to be some
chemistry. Unfortunately, her English was terrible and my Chinese is worse. I didn't
dance around waffling, I said, "You go with me?" "Ok." I dragged her over to the
bar for some translational assistance and to get advice on protocol. Zhuren gave
the appropriate warning that I should have heeded: "It's too early, it's gonna
cost you for LT." The reason, of course, is that she could do ST, be back by 2 AM or
something, and score again, so it needs to be an attractive proposition. However,
I didn't follow rule #7, above. My mistake, and then of course later the big head
is no match for the little head. So she did well by me.
Smoking firm body, small chest, big nipples. HOT. Snuggled in on the taxi, very GF.
No trouble at the hotel (see #10). Showered (nice!), round #1 (good), drinks (see
#9 above), round #2. Round #2 was either not interesting to her and she wanted to sleep,
or else she was really hurting. Finished quickly to avoid distressing her further.
I'm average, nothing to write home about. Slept until 9 AM. Chinese food not agreeing
with me, so I just got dressed and took her downstairs. Seemed like a sweet girl, a little
sad when leaving.
By the way, read the end of that last paragraph. That's the advantage of WG over
Freebie. Treat a WG well, and even if she's sad to go, she goes. I'll post later
re: other pursuits where this train of thought was relevant and the big head won.
Next time: ST, most likely not LT. I figure that if ST turns out great, you can
always negotiate up or cut it off if the terms aren't good. In general I've had
great LT experiences -- on a different continent. Might be a little rarer here.
NBG
[QUOTE=Infomatic]My bad. No RAR here, only ZIP.
So here we go:
I have marked +6 nightclubs. 1 area where to drink, dance, and to pickup freebies... 1 street to avoid at all cost. (walk one the opposite sidewalk...)
And 4 pro houses.[/QUOTE]
I am intriqued.
Please provide more details on the street to avoid "at all costs "
What's its name ? Where is it ?? and Why should we avoid it ??
thank you
[QUOTE=Zhuren]Sorry to bug you, but that's just not how it works.[/QUOTE]What are you ranting about, over and over. I have marked 13 spots in this zip file. Ain't enough?
Do you mind me posting on this forum?
Wtf has been scratching your annal lately?
He's a very nice guy and picked a very nice girl.
One of the new arrivals.
Usually, the Mongolians speak English quite well.
As NBG said, don't be afraid to ask.
NBG was introduced to Management and will be treated as a VIP in the future. His handle will be OBG soon.
[QUOTE=Zhuren]He's a very nice guy and picked a very nice girl.
One of the new arrivals.
Usually, the Mongolians speak English quite well.
As NBG said, don't be afraid to ask.
NBG was introduced to Management and will be treated as a VIP in the future. His handle will be OBG soon.[/QUOTE]
Actually, I'm now confused as to whether she was a new arrival. At first, I thought she was here only two weeks. But she is going back to Mongolia very soon, which implies she may have been here longer. I wonder if she worked doing something else, but has only been at Maggies for two weeks? Maybe an initial job (not at Maggies) didn't work out and she was stuck. Many things were obviously lost in translation.
NBG
[QUOTE=Newbeijingguy]Actually, I'm now confused as to whether she was a new arrival.
NBG[/QUOTE]
According to Maggie's HR, she's a new arrival.
[QUOTE=Newbeijingguy]Next time: ST, most likely not LT. I figure that if ST turns out great, you can always negotiate up or cut it off if the terms aren't good. NBG[/QUOTE]
Congrats NBG...Sounds like you received the premium introduction to Maggies.
The last quote above is actually quite applicable anyplace you monger where take out is the norm, and is quite a good strategy.
[QUOTE=Softy]
The last quote above is actually quite applicable anyplace you monger where take out is the norm, and is quite a good strategy.[/QUOTE]
Well, since I'm a strong believer of "safety in numbers," a much better strategy is to take two home and to send the one on her way who's not performing to your expectations ......
[QUOTE=Zhuren]Well, since I'm a strong believer of "safety in numbers," a much better strategy is to take two home and to send the one on her way who's not performing to your expectations ......[/QUOTE]
Zhuren...I wish I was headed to Beijing this month. I love the way you think.
Hi everyone,
I've followed this forum for quite a while now. I am in Beijing for a few days and would urgently require some good phone numbers for nice outcall girls. Can anybody give me their recommendations? I don't want to spend more than 600 for the whole package if that's possible.
Thanks in advance!
[QUOTE=Beijingandmyself]Hi everyone,
I've followed this forum for quite a while now. I am in Beijing for a few days and would urgently require some good phone numbers for nice outcall girls. Can anybody give me their recommendations? I don't want to spend more than 600 for the whole package if that's possible.
Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]
Yeah me too - I will be coming to Beijing next week - I want Miss Universe 'lookalike' types and I do not want to pay more than RMB800 (US$50) for whole night and day.
I also want them to speak PERFECT english.
And I do NOT want to do any work to find them - I want other guys reading this to hand feed me with contact details please.
Oh I would also like you guys to provide pictures for me so I DO NOT waste any of my time doing any leg work myself.
Oh yes - this is my first ever post.
FOR FUCKS SAKE MAN - RTFF - YOU WILL NOT BE SPOON FED.
[QUOTE=Beijingandmyself]Hi everyone,
I've followed this forum for quite a while now. I am in Beijing for a few days and would urgently require some good phone numbers for nice outcall girls. Can anybody give me their recommendations? I don't want to spend more than 600 for the whole package if that's possible.
Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]
No problem. You can have three beautiful Chinese outcall girls for 600.
US.
600 EUR, if they are really good. Two for 600 EUR for stunners with an university degree and passable English ....
[QUOTE=Infomatic]What are you ranting about, over and over. I have marked 13 spots in this zip file. Ain't enough?
[/QUOTE]
Did anyone have more success with that file than I?
The only 'new' placemark I can see is 3rd Ring Road ...
[QUOTE=Infomatic]I have marked +6 nightclubs. 1 area where to drink, dance, and to pickup freebies... 1 street to avoid at all cost. (walk one the opposite sidewalk...)
And 4 pro houses.[/QUOTE]
Infomatic -
Your zip file just contained 1 placemark with an arrow pointing to the West 3rd ring road. Even though you can probably see several placemarks in your google Earth, each one must be saved individually.
I have attached a zip file with several placemarks that have been previously posted on this forum, including:
Absinthe (The Elephant Bar)
Bar One (Owned by Maggie's, was once Maggie's Club)
Cafe Del Mar
Chun Xiu Lu Sauna
Hard Rock Cafe
Hilton Hotel
Hollywood
Lido Area KTV
Lido Area Sauna (Si Yi)
Maggie's (current location)
Maggie's (old location for reference)
Shearton Hotel (Passion's Club)
The Den
Sorry I missed the gathering at Maggie's on Sunday night. I hope to get together with you guys some other night.
Sammy
[QUOTE=Sammy_T]Infomatic -
Your zip file just contained 1 placemark with an arrow pointing to the West 3rd ring road. Even though you can probably see several placemarks in your google Earth, each one must be saved individually.
I have attached a zip file with several placemarks that have been previously posted on this forum, including:
Absinthe (The Elephant Bar)
Bar One (Owned by Maggie's, was once Maggie's Club)
Cafe Del Mar
Chun Xiu Lu Sauna
Hard Rock Cafe
Hilton Hotel
Hollywood
Lido Area KTV
Lido Area Sauna (Si Yi)
Maggie's (current location)
Maggie's (old location for reference)
Shearton Hotel (Passion's Club)
The Den
Sorry I missed the gathering at Maggie's on Sunday night. I hope to get together with you guys some other night.
Sammy[/QUOTE]
Not THAT's how it's done. The final step to evereybody's happyness is to have the placemarks posted on the keyhole bbs. That makes them available to all, no KMZ file necessary. I'll do that within the next few days. It's a bit of work.
Thank you, Sammy!
ZR
I don't get it - I downloaded my own zip posted on the forum, and all my markers were there.
I even uploaded Sammy_T's.
Thanks by the way.
What was NGB damaged? Just curious, hehehe!
I'm here in Beijing from 2 weeks. This Sunday I'll return in my home in Europe.
So I want to do something before I go away from here. Seen that 300pages are too mutch to read for me now, because I don't have a lot of time to surf the net, please can someone just tell me the address/telephone no. Etc. Of some massages centres or something similar where I can go, choose the girl I like and do something with the girl?
I think my maximum limit is around 800-900RMB.
Thanks
[QUOTE=T Riky]I'm here in Beijing from 2 weeks. This Sunday I'll return in my home in Europe.
So I want to do something before I go away from here. Seen that 300pages are too mutch to read for me now, because I don't have a lot of time to surf the net, please can someone just tell me the address/telephone no. Etc. Of some massages centres or something similar where I can go, choose the girl I like and do something with the girl?
I think my maximum limit is around 800-900RMB.
Thanks[/QUOTE]You probably won't get much sympathy from the forum, if you have been here 2 weeks and have not bothered to read at least part of forum.
That being said, use the "search" feature and look up the key words you want, it can at least narrow your search down to the posts you want to read. Or just go to Wangjing New Town and walk around, every building has a place to get laid.
the hotel has spa and they will provide extra services.
i have stay at a hotel in beijing, received 2 call from some girls asking whether i want massage services.
walking around the street also approached by girls. ample there....
[QUOTE=T Riky]I'm here in Beijing from 2 weeks. This Sunday I'll return in my home in Europe.
So I want to do something before I go away from here. Seen that 300pages are too mutch to read for me now, because I don't have a lot of time to surf the net, please can someone just tell me the address/telephone no. Etc. Of some massages centres or something similar where I can go, choose the girl I like and do something with the girl?
I think my maximum limit is around 800-900RMB.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=T Riky]I'm here in Beijing from 2 weeks. This Sunday I'll return in my home in Europe.
So I want to do something before I go away from here. Seen that 300pages are too mutch to read for me now, because I don't have a lot of time to surf the net, please can someone just tell me the address/telephone no. Etc. Of some massages centres or something similar where I can go, choose the girl I like and do something with the girl?
I think my maximum limit is around 800-900RMB.
Thanks[/QUOTE]You do not need to read 300 pages. Since you are too lazy to do your own research simply take a look at Kitty Asia, who is listed in the Classified section. You can have her for an hour and a half for only 400 Euro, no research required.
OR you could read just 1 page back and see some execllent information from Zhuren and BeijingNewGuy. In addition, the FAQ provides a simple summary of Beijing for Beginners: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=571272#post571272[/url]
I would wager that every senior member who contributes to this board has a full time job. We all find the time to do research, as well as post our results.
In case you don't get it, this is my nice way of saying what my good friend BadBoyBilly said just 6 posts before yours:
[QUOTE=BadBoyBilly]FOR FUCKS SAKE MAN - RTFF - YOU WILL NOT BE SPOON FED.
[/QUOTE]
Sammy
[QUOTE=Sammy_T]You do not need to read 300 pages. Since you are too lazy to do your own research simply take a look at Kitty Asia, who is listed in the Classified section. You can have her for an hour and a half for only 400 Euro, no research required....
In case you don't get it, this is my nice way of saying what my good friend BadBoyBilly said just 6 posts before yours:
Sammy[/QUOTE]
I am laughing my ass off!
I can't believe how many lazy ass people treat the forum as if it is a help desk. Btw, T Riky if you are in Shanghai, I suggest you pay a visit to Dragon D.
Note to newbies: The ISG forum is not a help desk. Even if you only read a month or two of postings, you will find most everything you need, plus the most recent months are the most up to date info anyway.
MAB
I apologize.
I'm new to this forum and i didn't thought about use the search button. I'm not in Shangai, I'm in Beijing, and I'm not in an Hotel but in the University dorm for foreigners, this I why I can't invite girls in my room.
Also sorry if my english is not perfect, but it's not my mother language. Now I'll search the forum and maybe tomorrow I'll let you know where I'm gone.
Thanks again.
[QUOTE=Mock A Bee]I am laughing my ass off!
I can't believe how many lazy ass people treat the forum as if it is a help desk. Btw, T Riky if you are in Shanghai, I suggest you pay a visit to Dragon D.
Note to newbies: The ISG forum is not a help desk. Even if you only read a month or two of postings, you will find most everything you need, plus the most recent months are the most up to date info anyway.
MAB[/QUOTE]
Not a help desk? Damn, and I was waiting for my first paycheck to help offset the expenses. I figured Sammy and the other must be millionnaires for all the work they have put into this board.
Oh well. At least working here is fun.
NBG
[QUOTE=Mock A Bee]I am laughing my ass off!
I can't believe how many lazy ass people treat the forum as if it is a help desk. Btw, T Riky if you are in Shanghai, I suggest you pay a visit to Dragon D.
Note to newbies: The ISG forum is not a help desk. Even if you only read a month or two of postings, you will find most everything you need, plus the most recent months are the most up to date info anyway.
MAB[/QUOTE]
What? You mean we are not? We are not obligated to answer these wankers’s PM too? Then can someone please tell these wankers to stop PMing me!
To newbies:
Having a large posts count does not means I have to be your helpdesk! Ask nicely and you will be answered.
Enjoy!
AG
Gentlemen,
I will be in Beijing for a couple of days from next Monday, Aug 20. I am planning to hook-up with my good mate Bad Boy Billy for a night of thrills. Unfortunately, "The King", SammyT, will not be around, however, we will definitely put a few back at Maggies in his honor. If any of you esteemed mongers want to join us, PM for details.
On the other hand, can anybody please tell me where I can find some pussy in Beijing? I am just another newbie wanker too lazy to RTFF!
Happy Hunting!
OAH
P.S. Dragon D, good opportunities in Beijing! Why don't you open a branch office?
Thanks to Sammy T, BMOGE (Beijing Mongers On Google Earth) is off to a nice start. I have combined his placemarks into one file and added some comments.
Some places, such as Cafe Del Mar, Chun Xiu Lu, Lido Area KTV, Si Yi Sauna etc need some descriptions.
Here is what to do:
1.) Install Google Earth from [url]http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html[/url]
2.) Create an account unless you already have one
3.) Open the enclosed Beijing.zip file, and unzip as Beijing_Mongers.KMZ
4.) You will see the places as yellow pushpins
5.) In the left "Places" window Beijing_Monger.kmz will show up under "Temporary Places"
6.) If you want to edit or update a comment, right click on the place name, select "Properties" and edit. If it's in the wrong place, now is the time to move the blinking placemarker.
Give the place a [B]GREEN pushpin (icon to the right of "Name" field in properties) to mark that it has been edited.[/B]
7.) If you want to add a place (PLEASE,) select the pushpin icon in the top of the window, place the placemark in the right spot, name the place, add some comments, and save it with a [B]BLUE pushpin to mark a new place.[/B] Please be careful and make doubly sure that the placemark is in the proper place. For instance, someone (not one of us) put the Outback Steakhouse right on the goal line of the Worker's Stadium ....
8.) Once done, go to "Beijing_Mongers.kmz," right click it and "Save as..." a new file. A good file format would be to add your handle, as in Beijing_Mongers_Zhuren.kmz"
9.) Post the file here. (You need to zip it, ISG doesn't akzept unadulterated KMZ files)
I'll try to organize the different edits and new places into one file, which will be then re-posted. But please, stick to the GREEN (edits) and BLUE (new placemark) format.
Extra credit for:
- Visit the place with a GPS and make sure of the exact coordinates,
- Take a picture of the place and add.
- Add the website (if it has one) of the place
Let's do it!
[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]Gentlemen,
I will be in Beijing for a couple of days from next Monday, Aug 20. I am planning to hook-up with my good mate Bad Boy Billy for a night of thrills. Unfortunately, "The King", SammyT, will not be around, however, we will definitely put a few back at Maggies in his honor. If any of you esteemed mongers want to join us, PM for details.
On the other hand, can anybody please tell me where I can find some pussy in Beijing? I am just another newbie wanker too lazy to RTFF!
Happy Hunting!
OAH
P.S. Dragon D, good opportunities in Beijing! Why don't you open a branch office?[/QUOTE]
OAH my friend - I just cannot wait to get their to meet you again either my friend.
Slight change of plans today - our Chinese partners have f**ked up productions dates - Jeez aint that a surprise - so now I gotta spend 3 days in Beijing Aug 20 to 23 - then head to Tianjin.
Maggies, Hollywood, Lido - here we cum.
Hey to all you guys reading this - the BEST advice I will ever give any of you - TREAT THESE GIRLS LIKE THEY ARE ANGELS AND IT WILL PAY OFF IN SPADES
Just received an email from a former 25yo blonde Turkish great f**k in Beijing from a couple of years ago - was always MORE than WILLING to come to my hotel in daytime hours for as long as I wanted her for 500rmb max - many times for nothing - apparently her German b/f sent her back from Berlin - novelty obviously wore off for him - so she is now back in Beijing 'hawking the fork' again.
She tells me she misses me so much - wants to give me a 'freebie' gift as soon as I arrive.
Now guys - BBB is a seriously ugly fucker - so it aint my looks that can get this result - TREAT THEM WELL - THEY NEVER FORGET.
[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]OAH my friend - I just cannot wait to get their to meet you again either my friend.
Slight change of plans today - our Chinese partners have f**ked up productions dates - Jeez aint that a surprise - so now I gotta spend 3 days in Beijing Aug 20 to 23 - then head to Tianjin.
Maggies, Hollywood, Lido - here we cum.
Hey to all you guys reading this - the BEST advice I will ever give any of you - TREAT THESE GIRLS LIKE THEY ARE ANGELS AND IT WILL PAY OFF IN SPADES
Just received an email from a former 25yo blonde Turkish great f**k in Beijing from a couple of years ago - was always MORE than WILLING to come to my hotel in daytime hours for as long as I wanted her for 500rmb max - many times for nothing - apparently her German b/f sent her back from Berlin - novelty obviously wore off for him - so she is now back in Beijing 'hawking the fork' again.
She tells me she misses me so much - wants to give me a 'freebie' gift as soon as I arrive.
Now guys - BBB is a seriously ugly fucker - so it aint my looks that can get this result - TREAT THEM WELL - THEY NEVER FORGET.[/QUOTE]
I'll be back 8/22. 22 & 23 good.
[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand] Unfortunately, "The King", SammyT, will not be around, however, we will definitely put a few back at Maggies in his honor.[/QUOTE]
Sammy_T will actually be in town Wednesday the 22nd. I guess I could meet you guys for a drink or two, but after 2 days you may already have done all of the available girls :)
We can plan dinner, then the Pig. After the Pig we can do an hour or two of naked KTV, followed by a quick run though Absnith and Hollywood before heading to Maggie's. After all, if we are going to do it we might as well do it right! Since there is no cover charge at Hard Rock on Wednesday we can even stop by there and check out the talent.
It is fine with me if beginners join us. We can PM to determine our starting point (ie, restaurant).
Sammy
[QUOTE=Sammy_T]Sammy_T will actually be in town Wednesday the 22nd. I guess I could meet you guys for a drink or two, but after 2 days you may already have done all of the available girls :)
We can plan dinner, then the Pig. After the Pig we can do an hour or two of naked KTV, followed by a quick run though Absnith and Hollywood before heading to Maggie's. After all, if we are going to do it we might as well do it right! Since there is no cover charge at Hard Rock on Wednesday we can even stop by there and check out the talent.
It is fine with me if beginners join us. We can PM to determine our starting point (ie, restaurant).
Sammy[/QUOTE]
I'm on for the 22nd. Love your plan. How about dinner in one of the Lido places?
I will be visiting Beijing on Aug 25-26.
Any of you guys are there?
I'm ready to post a new report on a upscale sauna that has been well-documented a while ago in the thread. I have a few things to add, including more info on locating it I think, and possibly even a photo.
When such detail is accompanied by info regarding extras, what is the protocol? Is there any worry about posting too much, in terms of getting a place into trouble? Or does everyone know what goes on, so posting here won't have any implications.
Just wanted to ask first rather than apologizing later.
NBG
PS Maggies Sunday 19th or 26th anyone? Might join on the 20th for drinks, though I can't partake.
[QUOTE=Newbeijingguy]Hm... wife of a customer, or worse, a co-worker. I'll give that particular species a wide birth.
However, for this evening, I'm staying in. I just discovered a set of cohones that I never realized existed. The story involves a nice hotel, an elevator meeting, dinner (20 minutes from now), and we'll see what else. Not sure if it is a possible freebie, but I'd be very surprised if she is a regular WG. A complex situation, though, hopefully with more than a happy ending, to be dissected over drinks in between lessons Sunday PM.
NBG[/QUOTE]
Sorry, I forgot to finish this report.
So the girl on the elevator turned out to be an Expat (Malaysian) working in the hotel. I'd rate her a 9, seriously hot. We had a drink in the lobby bar area, and she was careful to point out her general manager. I suppose fraternizing with the clients might pose a problem, at least out in the open. She said she had eaten, so she only cost me two drinks, I got her number, and that was it.
The next day, I meet up with this Chinese potential freebie. About a 5-6, I'd say. Probably just should have run. Decided to take her for a few drinks, which temporarily elevated her to about 6.5-7 (and she was coming on to me, even though she knew I wasn't boyfriend material). So I took her back to the hotel, and just my luck, the 9 was sitting there in the lobby, we had to walk right by her. Damn. She knew what was up, and she probably wan't impressed by my companion. Ah well. We got up to the room, and I was regretting my choice, so I bailed. Potential freebie stickiness (and she had slipped back down to the 5-6 range) from previous reports in the forum were on my mind. Why bother? Maggies was on the horizon.
The next day, the 9 was still friendly. I may try staying at a different hotel and invite her over. If she accepts, great! If not... see you at Maggies.
NBG
[QUOTE=Newbeijingguy]I'm ready to post a new report on a upscale sauna that has been well-documented a while ago in the thread. I have a few things to add, including more info on locating it I think, and possibly even a photo.
When such detail is accompanied by info regarding extras, what is the protocol? Is there any worry about posting too much, in terms of getting a place into trouble? Or does everyone know what goes on, so posting here won't have any implications.
Just wanted to ask first rather than apologizing later.
.[/QUOTE]
Just post away. Nobody assumes they are selling rosary beads there. Location and picture fine. I'd personally would refrain from showing girls with recognizable faces. Just do the old who, where, what, how much, happy or not.
Will be in the provinces over the weekend. Recommend Sammy T's 22nd.
[QUOTE=Sammy_T]Sammy_T will actually be in town Wednesday the 22nd. I guess I could meet you guys for a drink or two, but after 2 days you may already have done all of the available girls :)
We can plan dinner, then the Pig. After the Pig we can do an hour or two of naked KTV, followed by a quick run though Absnith and Hollywood before heading to Maggie's. After all, if we are going to do it we might as well do it right! Since there is no cover charge at Hard Rock on Wednesday we can even stop by there and check out the talent.
It is fine with me if beginners join us. We can PM to determine our starting point (ie, restaurant).
Sammy[/QUOTE]
I am in Sammy - sounds like 'Christmas on a stick' to me.
Whichever way you guys want to play it out - dinner first - or just an arrival time at the Pig - lets set it in stone.
NBG
PS Maggies Sunday 19th or 26th anyone? Might join on the 20th for drinks, though I can't partake.[/QUOTE]I will be there on the 19th. First time as I have only been in Beijing for two weeks and work 12 hour night shifts, first day off.
How will I recognize you?
Pete
How can I turn this offer down? I may not be able to make it for dinner, but will definitely hook up with you guys at some point in the evening.
[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]I am in Sammy - sounds like 'Christmas on a stick' to me.
Whichever way you guys want to play it out - dinner first - or just an arrival time at the Pig - lets set it in stone.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Oreally]I will be there on the 19th. First time as I have only been in Beijing for two weeks and work 12 hour night shifts, first day off.
How will I recognize you?
Pete[/QUOTE]
You should join the forum so you can receive/send PMs. I'll probably be at the pool table. Drop the code phrase, "boy, there sure are a lot of girls here" or something like that.
NBG
[url]http://www.langtaos.com[/url]
PM me if you want the phone # or email of the VIP manager.
Other reports on this place, including some directions and Chinese characters, which I can't do:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=624117&postcount=5747[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=623723&postcount=5738[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=623513&postcount=5736[/url]
Getting there: the subway (Wudaokou) is above street level. When you get to the street, there is a set of train tracks for a commuter train to the east. Cross the tracks and walk. Immediately on your left you will see a movie theater, so you will know you are headed in the right direction.
On the corner of Chengfu and Xueyuan there is a bookstore (southeast corner) and a big hotel, MengXu (northeast corner). Turn left going north up Xueyuan. I didn't see Beijing Language and Culture University, and when I asked for directions to that I was pointed the wrong way. Instead, I found the spa in the area of the Mining and Technology University, clearly marked with English, directly next to the pedestrian overpass as described by others.
Entrance fee depends on time of day. Peak is 128, off-peak (before 4 PM and possibly in the evening) is less, perhaps 88.
Take off your shoes in the foyer, put on the flipflops. You want to go to the basement, where you strip. Lots of male attendants, no women. Very nice facility, hot tubs (including one with little fish that will nibble you), sauna, steam room, and massage areas (which you probably don't want -- read on). Take a shower, try the hot tub, get a lay of the land.
When you are good and horny, say "anmoyuan". Now, if a beefy guy wearing a tanktop starts to look at you like a piece of meat, start gesturing 1, 2, 3, UP, with your fingers. You want them to take you upstairs to the 3rd floor where the girls are. You don't want to be in the basement massage area.
The rooms on the 3rd floor are very nice, extremely clean, with TV (channel 9 is in english). Tea may be offered, for 28 RMB. Don't get on the bed immediately, let the girl lay down the towels.
Girl was a solid 7 for me. Base price 268/45 minute Chinese massage, the second item on the price list. One of the male attendants did some sketching on paper before the girl walked in, indicating that 268 + 268 = HJ during the extended massage. And 268 + 268 + 268 had something to do with my ass, the girl's boobs, and the universal sign for fucking. Now I easily could have misunderstood, so don't hold me to that. I chose the 268 + 268 version given previous reports about no condoms and I didn't feel like an ass tickling.
Very good massage, happy ending, more tea, some attempts to talk. I think she tried to upsell me to FS at that point for round #2 but I knew I didn't have a condom, and unless I missed something in her little bag that was open, she didn't, either. I don't know if she might have gone out to be given one officially. Might try next time I return.
Also received the tour. Free buffet on 4th floor at lunch, dinner, and perhaps late night. Also have plush chairs for lounging, some with TVs. I imagine a nap would be very easy.
Finally, I hit the spa again, which left me completely exhausted.
Total damage: 128 + 268 + 268 and I think they didn't charge me for the tea. There didn't seem to be any charge for the colorful PJs, either, which you have to put on before going up to the 3rd or 4th floors.
On the way out, you might get the VIP salespitch. If you want to be a regular, they have a few deals that are worth looking at I think. Like bonus money (you get 6000 for your 5000) and free entrance tickets (I think), and 20% discount on services (again, I think). If I return I'll try to confirm this.
Summary: pretty impressive and enjoyable. Could spend hours there. Not for everyone, but again, a nice alternative when takeout is not possible.
NBG
I know a girl who speaks good english. She says she is half Thai. 28 Yrs old. good looking but service is poor. She is money hungry but negotiate. She can get you any type of girls you want. She said she works as a mamasan in one of the upscale joints. Do not know whether it is true or not. She has a nice car and said she owns two condos.
I was busy with business so just had one night with her only. She was calling me next several days to see if I want a beautifull girl. But I have a semi GF in Beijing. If anybody wants her number PM me. She will bring the girl to your room. Remember to negotiate hard. She quoted me 1200 RMB LT for a beautifull girl of my choice.
Remember to put all valuables in the safe deposit box and do not spoil her by giving too much money. She is very persuasive.
Can someone help me with a budget hotel, around 25-30 dollar/night. Looking fore hotel with good location for fucking and shopping.
[QUOTE=Klamydia]Can someone help me with a budget hotel, around 25-30 dollar/night. Looking fore hotel with good location for fucking and shopping.[/QUOTE] NO, we cant help you!
[QUOTE=Klamydia]Can someone help me with a budget hotel, around 25-30 dollar/night. Looking fore hotel with good location for fucking and shopping.[/QUOTE]
First, try [URL=http://www.cdc.gov/std/Chlamydia/STDFact-Chlamydia.htm] spelling Chlamydia right [/URL]
Second, take a single dose of azithromycin or bunches of doxycycline (if you are cheap,) and Chlamydia is gone. Which is good for all involved.
Sammy_T,
Wow What a nice report!
I am in Philippines and my Canadien friend ask me to visit him in Beijing. But I didn't know nothing about the city.
I am planning to go at the end of August My budget is limited so I will like to find a friendly hotel not too expensive.
Regards
Tylenol
I will be visiting Beijing next month and staying at the New World Marriott in the Chongwen district. Now, before everyone says RTFF I've already searched through the forum and found relatively little information on potential mongering joints in this area. I stayed at the same hotel a few months ago and I walked around the neighborhood but didn't find anything promising either. This was surprising to me, as the area is bustling at all hours of the day and seems to be a favorite shopping district for the local Beijing youth. Anyway, if you happen to know of any good BBS, massage or sauna type places in the area I would be most grateful to hear your recommendations. I know that Maggie's is also pretty close to where I'll be staying (at least according to the map), so that will be a possibility for me as well.
[QUOTE=Squib Boy]I will be visiting Beijing next month and staying at the New World Marriott in the Chongwen district. Now, before everyone says RTFF I've already searched through the forum and found relatively little information on potential mongering joints in this area. I stayed at the same hotel a few months ago and I walked around the neighborhood but didn't find anything promising either. This was surprising to me, as the area is bustling at all hours of the day and seems to be a favorite shopping district for the local Beijing youth. Anyway, if you happen to know of any good BBS, massage or sauna type places in the area I would be most grateful to hear your recommendations. I know that Maggie's is also pretty close to where I'll be staying (at least according to the map), so that will be a possibility for me as well.[/QUOTE]
Your observations are correct. Your area is dead. You will have to go out of the area. There used to be some BBS near Qianamen to the west of you but there is no guarantee of what's left because of all the construction. There are some BBS near you but you have to go down side streets and the quality and type of service are questionable. You are right about Maggies see Zhuren's recent posting re Coogle earth postings Take out from those back to your Hotel is an option
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=632413#post632413[/url]
You can also take a cab to the Guo Mao/Soho area where there are lots of upscale massage places. Look in That's Beijing for details.
Re saunas "the Saunas in Maijiabao RD is relatively short cab ride to the west of you which should be even faster in the evening and Chunxiulu Sauna is to the north east of you and again in short cab range.
I don't know if your hotel is "girl friendly "or not .Zhuren's post says the Marriott west is but no mention of Chongwen. There are some good maps and write ups there as well.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2659[/url]
Good Luck and have fun If you find anything in Chongwen please post details.
Beats me why some newcomers are always so fixated on "action within walking distance."
- Even short looking distances can get quite long is this big city
- It's hot
- Taxis are dirt cheap. Hard to spend more than 20 RMB for a ride. 2 Euro!
- The girls get miffed when they have to walk back to the hotel
My suggestion to any newcomer:
- Print out [url]http://www.maggiesbar.com/weizhi.htm[/url]
- Hand it to the taxi driver (don't forget a card of the hotel for the trip back home)
- Don't go before 11.
You'll be in paradise.
Geezuz Klamydia, you are one lazy bastard. You looked for exactly the same help in Cuba, and in Venezueala. Because I am a nice guy, here's 2 suggestions:
1. Hotels.com, Travelocity.com, or Priceline.com. All have great help on getting your freakin hotels.
2. Pick up Dale Carnegie's "How To Win Friends and Influence People". It's a good read, and could potentially cure you of your case of accute selfishness
[QUOTE=Newbeijingguy]You should join the forum so you can receive/send PMs. I'll probably be at the pool table. Drop the code phrase, "boy, there sure are a lot of girls here" or something like that.
NBG[/QUOTE]Hi NBG and Oreally,
This is Taiwan Guy in Beijing. I am from Taiwan and have been working in Beijing for almost 2 years since Nov. 2005. I am new to this forum and I would like to meet you very much at the Maggies on the 19th (today), and if you may not know, 19th is the Chinese Valentine's Day!
However I am having credit card problems (long story) so I could not pay the subscription to be able to send / receive PMs. :(
May I ask when you guys will arrive there and what kinds of clothing you guys will be wearing? I will be wearing a bloody red Roots branded shirt printed with a small Canada flag at chest and Canadian Olympic Team logo at right shoulder (I'd been in Vancouver for one year.) I will also drop the code phrase, so please pay attention when a Chinese-looking 30-something guy is approaching with the phrase. :)
Cheers!
Taiwan Guy
[QUOTE=Taiwan Guy]Hi NBG and Oreally,
This is Taiwan Guy in Beijing. I am from Taiwan and have been working in Beijing for almost 2 years since Nov. 2005. I am new to this forum and I would like to meet you very much at the Maggies on the 19th (today), and if you may not know, 19th is the Chinese Valentine's Day!
However I am having credit card problems (long story) so I could not pay the subscription to be able to send / receive PMs. :(
May I ask when you guys will arrive there and what kinds of clothing you guys will be wearing? I will be wearing a bloody red Roots branded shirt printed with a small Canada flag at chest and Canadian Olympic Team logo at right shoulder (I'd been in Vancouver for one year.) I will also drop the code phrase, so please pay attention when a Chinese-looking 30-something guy is approaching with the phrase. :)
Cheers!
Taiwan Guy[/QUOTE]
Playing pool, tan trousers, white shirt. 10 PM-ish for me, I'll keep my ears open for friendly voices. Tonight (19th).
NBG
[QUOTE=Taiwan Guy]Hi NBG and Oreally,
This is Taiwan Guy in Beijing. I am from Taiwan and have been working in Beijing for almost 2 years since Nov. 2005. I am new to this forum and I would like to meet you very much at the Maggies on the 19th (today), and if you may not know, 19th is the Chinese Valentine's Day!
However I am having credit card problems (long story) so I could not pay the subscription to be able to send / receive PMs. :(
May I ask when you guys will arrive there and what kinds of clothing you guys will be wearing? I will be wearing a bloody red Roots branded shirt printed with a small Canada flag at chest and Canadian Olympic Team logo at right shoulder (I'd been in Vancouver for one year.) I will also drop the code phrase, so please pay attention when a Chinese-looking 30-something guy is approaching with the phrase. :)
Cheers!
Taiwan Guy[/QUOTE]
Just remember: Don't understand, don't speak one word of Chinese when the guards stop you and explain (in Chinese) that it's a membership club. Say "excuse me?" (in English) and you are in.
There were a few requests looking for budget 3-star hotels in Beijing. Though I haven't been to Beijing, I managed to do some research online and I figure I'll share my results. I am planning to go to Beijing in September, stay at a hotel for a week and then look for an apartment.
I got information about eijia hotel from the link below It is 168 rmb per night.
[url]http://www.chinese-forums.com/showthread.php?t=15973[/url]
The hotel is in Haidian district where my school is. Whether the hotel is Girl Friendly, I have no idea. Can anybody confirm/deny?
The attachment is directions to the hotel I found on the net. My plan is to print it out and hand it to the Taxi driver when I get to Beijing airport.
Another option for cheap stay from my experience backpacking Europe is:
[url]http://www.hostelworld.com[/url]
Hope that help.
Sam247
[QUOTE=Sam247]There were a few requests looking for budget 3-star hotels in Beijing. Though I haven't been to Beijing, I managed to do some research online and I figure I'll share my results. I am planning to go to Beijing in September, stay at a hotel for a week and then look for an apartment.
I got information about eijia hotel from the link below It is 168 rmb per night.
[url]http://www.chinese-forums.com/showthread.php?t=15973[/url]
The hotel is in Haidian district where my school is. Whether the hotel is Girl Friendly, I have no idea. Can anybody confirm/deny?
The attachment is directions to the hotel I found on the net. My plan is to print it out and hand it to the Taxi driver when I get to Beijing airport.
Another option for cheap stay from my experience backpacking Europe is:
[url]http://www.hostelworld.com[/url]
Hope that help.
Sam247[/QUOTE]
Sam -
I want to thank you for taking the time to do some research and posting it to the board. Even though you have never visited Beijing you still made an effort to contribute.
While I am not an expert on the freebie scene, please feel free to contact me after your arrival on September 5 and I will be happy to show you the pay-for-play ropes. If you are here long term you may find that it is easier and actually cheaper.
I have several friends who hit the normal bars and pick up Chinese girls. They have a great time, but at the end of the day they often find they cannot get rid of the girls. The girls call them all of the time, and even stop by their office (note - never give a girl your business card)! Check out the following post on the "That's Beijing" website about a guy's horror story with freebie: [url]http://www.thatsbj.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15043[/url]
I have said many times in the past that I do not pay the girl to go home with me, I pay her to leave in the morning.
It is also easy to fall in love with a working girl. Sure, you start to get the sex for free, but trust me as someone who has been there that it will only cause you grief in the long run.
If you want a girlfriend I do not think you will have any trouble finding a nice university girl. You have the best of both worlds in the eyes of a local girl - Chinese heritage, and a Canadian passport (coupled with a western sized bank account). I am sure all would agree that the best way to learn Chinese is to live with a native speaker for a few months. This will of course spoil you, and you will never look at another western woman again :)
Ah, to be mid-20's, single, and living in Beijing. You are in for a great semester. Good luck, and have fun!
Sammy
[QUOTE=Zhuren]Beats me why some newcomers are always so fixated on "action within walking distance." [/QUOTE]
I prefer to be within walking distance to the action since it is easier and quicker to have multiple STs. It saves time. Going back to one of the questions I asked in this thread - "does anyone know whether Ritan Hotel by Hollywood is GF?".
[QUOTE=Zhuren]Just remember: Don't understand, don't speak one word of Chinese when the guards stop you and explain (in Chinese) that it's a membership club. Say "excuse me?" (in English) and you are in.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your advice. It was actually very easy for me to get in: I just said I am from Taiwan and showed my entry permit (as PRC does not honor Republic of China passport, we have a special type of passport-like entry permit for Taiwan travelers), and the guards just responded: "You are from Taiwan, so you are also a Chinese. Please come in." :) Then I was told by the Maggie's Chinese girls that only the mainland Chinese people cannot come in for security reasons, and Taiwan / Hong Kong / Macau Chinese have no problems, and they have most Chinese customers from Taiwan, which I haven't met one yet. Last night was my 2nd time of visiting the Maggies. The 1st time was June 2005 (the Old Maggies.)
May I ask if you or anyone else will come to the Maggies on 20th (tonight)? I did run into some problems with two Mongolian girls (yes I took out w/ two) that they broke the prior agreed upon LT deal to get home much earlier. While I did pay them less (was 1000 RMB for both LT, then I paid 500 RMB, which was still too much I thought, but I wanted a quick resolution w/o troubles), I would like to have some explanations behind this because the two girls could not explain in English nor Chinese at that time.
I am planning to visit the Maggies tonight to meet the management lady that you introduced NBG to. The two girls didn't even know the management lady's name, but I figure she can do the translation. I'd wish if you or someone else would be around to backup me if needed. NBG knows my cellular phone number so you may PM him to get my number, and I will arrive around 11PM-ish wearing a purple shirt and a jean.
Thank you,
Taiwan Guy
So, NBG pays his dues by introducing two newbies to Maggies, Taiwan Guy and a lurker. The lurker was/is here for the week only, definitely suffering from jetlag. When I left Taiwan Guy (about 1:30 AM) he was deep into conversation/negotiation with a Mongolian, having met the management and tossed back a few drinks. I hope he reports in. I have their contact info and we may have a growing group later this week for Sammy T's 22nd.
Arrived at 10 PM. Shot some pool, and quickly hooked up with the hottest little Chinese girl in the place for a partner. Completely my type. I think her name is Ai. So after a few hours on and off the table, I had bought her a few drinks and gave her a tip because she spent so much time with me. She wasn't pretending she would go anywhere with me, it was a pretty straight conversation. I knew the game (thanks to you all) and she knew I knew the game and was happy to play along.
So then the newbies were pushing me to get in gear and show them how to get down to business. So I see this totally hot Mongolian walk buy, and <snap> I almost get whiplash! I point her out as she walks away from us (a great view, and I was hoping she was as pretty from the front). The newbies seem impressed, and follow me as I drift around trying to catch sight of her again.
Found her, move in, and ..... DOH ..... it's the girl I took home last week. Well, I had good taste then, and good taste now. We tried chatting, I think she tried to explain why she had not gone back to Mongolia, some change of plans. Ok, maybe. I'm friendly, she snuggles in a bit, I introduce her to the newbies (kind of) and then she drifts off. She probably knows that if I want her again, I'll come get her. Now, remembering advice on the forum, I didn't want to wind up with a Mongolian girlfriend. Go read my previous report for other reasons.
So I started scoping out the scene, find another looker at the bar, and move in. After a few minor distractions (the lurker leaving to crash and Taiwan Guy growing a serious set of cohones), I grabbed her and headed out. To make a long story short, ST was less than 1/2 the price of last week's adventure, and I got my bed to myself when she decided to leave (though I gave her the option of staying). Perfect (probably) for both of us. I gave it the old college try, and she was definitely wet. Enough said.
Final note. St Regis is girl-friendly. And, if you don't know, it's very close to Maggies, although I didn't walk. I was strolling around the hotel after dinner, and I see two girls in short skirts get out of a taxi. I start walking after them, and they head towards the hotel side door. They see me, and immediately ask me if I want a massage? It wasn't what I was after, but I took their cell number if anyone wants it, PM me. I'd put them around 7s. Didn't ask the price (sorry, I should have but didn't want them to start giving me the hard sell that I would decline anyway). A little later, they were sitting at a table right in the lobby, and 30 minutes later they were gone.
That's all I can think of right now. Hope to meet some of you on Wednesday.
NBG
Happened to go to the Hard Rock Cafe with a female friend of mine last week. Noticed a couple of good-looking Chinese girls plying their trade there. Think I want to go back without my friend. What is the going rate of the girls there. With all the foreign tourists there, I guess they may be spoiled.
Anybody any idea or expereince?
Please advise.
I think we all vote that NBG changes his handle. It doersn't apply no more. He's a local now. See you Wed.
Since NBG (or OBG?) has posted his report, so here is mine:
My Chinese Valentine's Day experiences didn't come with a happy ending, unfortunately, but here is a lengthy report for your reading pleasure.
It was my 2nd visit to the Maggies. The 1st one was June 2005, so it was the old Maggies. I went with my then boss, who is a Norwegian. At that time there were full of older WGs, so I left my boss (who's having fun) there. I was told neither of them took any girls out. Sometime later my ex-boss told me he also had a few freebies there (he's a large guy, but somehow many non-WG female said he's cute. I will never understand why.)
Now it was Chinese Valentine's Day (Lunar calendar July 7th) in 2007 for my 2nd visit to the Maggies, and the main purpose was to meet the legendary NBG. It was very easy for me to get in: I just said I am from Taiwan and showed my entry permit (PRC does not honor Republic of China passport, so we have another kind of passport-like entry permit), then the guards said "Please come in! You are also a Chinese!"
NBG is a handsome guy, and I bet many girls will like him, and the another forum lurker speaks and jokes in perfect Chinese (his Chinese is far better than most Mongolian girls, and yes, even better than mine Taiwan-style Chinese.
Actually when NGB locked his target in and ready to go, I was still looking for my target. I bought some drinks for the Chinese manager lady (NGB told me she's managing the Mongolian girls, but the girls I took out seem like they don’t know her at all), so she was helping to introduce girls to me. I talked with a first few girls introduced, but didn't really like anyone of them When NBG is leaving, I wasn't "negotiating" but just "chatting" with a Mongolian girl who can speak better Chinese. The manager lady told me the girl was thirsty. I was too kind to buy the girl a drink, even though I didn't like her. I did this to let the manager "have face", so she can continue to introduce more girls.
I admit I am a picky guy (not necessary meant my selections were always better though.)
Then a Chinese bar girl was walking by, had some chat, I semi-joked to her that I was looking for a girlfriend for my Chinese Valentine's Day, then the manager also joined us the conversation. I bought drinks for both of them, again, to show my nice attitude in order to have a better chance to get a better girl out. I did some math some time later and found out I spent 500RMB in all these drinks for them. The "overhead" cost was kind of high. I should have had been looking for girls on my own.
Finally the manager introduced me to a beautiful girl. She's tall, white skin, charming eyes and smiles, however her breast is not large (I do prefer big tits, but no fatty girls), so her body shape is more like some thin models. Her name is Ogii. She has another friend, Zavy, who has large tits and also cute but later it turned out she's a bit fatty, and she's wearing tight underwear to make it looks thinner.
So as you can imagine, yes I took both of them out. Actually I was sort of hesitant. I was thinking whether I shall move on to Banana to try my luck (I remember I had been to Banana in 2001, and many Chinese WGs there, but it was 6 years ago.) Another concern was I couldn't find a budget hotel room around 200RMB nearby (yes I am too cheap to pay more. Taiwan guys’ salary is not as much as the mainland Chinese imagine.) Then I sneaked out of the Maggies to Banana a few minutes before 4AM, only to find out it's going to close in a few minutes right after my arrival. There were many girls waiting taxi. I tried to identify who's WG, but failed to find any. I was thinking whether I shall go back home, or shall I get back to the Maggies. I didn't know why I made the decision, but I went back to the Maggies. When I arrived back to the Maggies front gate it was 4:20-ish and it's also closed.
I called Ogii's cellular phone. She told me she's going to the Den. The Den is also one of my ex-boss favorite bars. My 1st time to the Den, all the waitress was hailing excitedly "(my ex-boss's name), long time no see!" Ogii, Zavy and another older Mongolian girl were there sitting in one table. We ordered some cokes (20RMB x 4 = 80, more cost than the food! I made another mistake to order that!) And some American type food (the food was tasty, probably because I was hungry.) We chatted there for some time. I was watching Zavy's large boobs and Ogii's lovely smile (she didn't put bras so I can see her smaller boobs), then my small head told me to take both out for the best of the both worlds. But for the lack of hotel room problem? My small head was stupid enough to risk to take them to my rented not-fancy-at-all apartment.
Then it was close to 6AM-ish. We started to negotiate the rate. In the Maggies Ogii once told me her rate is 600RMB for one hour, but she didn't have a rate for LT. Then I was asking how much she was asking for both, and then Ogii said "it's up to you." I almost wanted to say "free?" :D So the bargaining started from 500RMB for both, gradually up to 1000RMB for both and for staying until noon (around 6 hours.) They agreed.
So I took them to my apartment, on the taxi ride, the girls said they also used to rent in the same community (the building next to mine) a few months ago!
Here is the not-happy-ending part: when I was making love with Ogii and sucking Zavy's big breasts at the same time for some while (prior to my cum), I thought it's time to let Zavy to have more actions on me, so I told Zavy that it's her turn to make love with me. It was 7-to-8AM-ish. Suddenly, Zavy jumped up and said she wanted to leave now! I asked them why, but none of them was able to tell me why! Both of them don't speak good English or Chinese, so I thought it's the language barrier. I was still very upset and disappointed, and decided to ask both of them go back home (even Ogii said she could stay, but asked for more money.) I offered to pay them 500RMB for both (were asking 600RMB, 100 for Zavy, 500 for Ogii, but I said 500 for both and you two split), and I think 500RMB was still too much considering I didn't even cum, but I didn't negotiate too hard to avoid future troubles. I decided to go to the Maggies today to look for the manager to do the translation for the explanation. So I went to the Maggie again today, and met the manager and Zavy (didn't see Ogii, even I called her prior to my departure and she said she's there.) Then the manager translated that Zavy said I was paying too less, so they wanted to leave. I told the manager that they could just tell me that directly (I don't think it's language barrier anymore) at that time, and they could just say no before I took them out. I thought they agreed my 1000RMB for both girls LT offering, or they would not go with me, so it didn't sound right if they thought my offering was not enough but still went home with me? Comparing to what happened that morning, when I was asking them why broken our agreed upon deal, Zavy danced around saying she didn't like my place, etc. And at the time when they were leaving my apartment, Ogii gave me a hug and kiss, and Zavy's facial expression was not too happy. So it may be something went wrong with Zavy? Perhaps Zhuren or Sammy_T could help me to find out the true root cause on Wed, if both the two girls and the manager are around.
I didn't take out any girls at the Maggies today; in fact I just took a look around after the manager "translated" what Zavy said. I thought it's better to save my money for Wed actions. I did went to Banana once again, and there were so many people today. One girl was asking me whether I wanted to play with her together, but she just wanted 300RMB for tipping without going out with me. I could not identify other WGs, so I would need more suggestions from you guys (perhaps we can talk about it on Wed.)
So I look forward to meet you guys on Wed! I have some more questions around how to hide my expending so I would like to talk with you guys more about this face to face.
Cheers,
Taiwan Guy
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[QUOTE=Newbeijingguy]So I started scoping out the scene, find another looker at the bar, and move in. After a few minor distractions (the lurker leaving to crash and Taiwan Guy growing a serious set of cohones), I grabbed her and headed out. To make a long story short, ST was less than 1/2 the price of last week's adventure, and I got my bed to myself when she decided to leave (though I gave her the option of staying). Perfect (probably) for both of us. I gave it the old college try, and she was definitely wet. Enough said.[/QUOTE]Hi NBG,
May I kindly ask what did you mean by "Taiwan Guy growing a serious set of cohones"? I am sorry but my English is not that good. And sorry for pushing you into the action and making distractions.
I met the same girl right after 1-2 hour (I didn't pay attention to the time) back to the Maggies. Just as you said, they will be back to look for more business!
May I ask what is the ST and LT price you said on the two girls, if you don't mind? You can look up how much I paid from my report.
Thanks,
Taiwan Guy
[QUOTE=Sammy_T]Sam -
I want to thank you for taking the time to do some research and posting it to the board. Even though you have never visited Beijing you still made an effort to contribute.
While I am not an expert on the freebie scene, please feel free to contact me after your arrival on September 5 and I will be happy to show you the pay-for-play ropes. If you are here long term you may find that it is easier and actually cheaper.
I have several friends who hit the normal bars and pick up Chinese girls. They have a great time, but at the end of the day they often find they cannot get rid of the girls. The girls call them all of the time, and even stop by their office (note - never give a girl your business card)! Check out the following post on the "That's Beijing" website about a guy's horror story with freebie: [url]http://www.thatsbj.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15043[/url]
I have said many times in the past that I do not pay the girl to go home with me, I pay her to leave in the morning.
It is also easy to fall in love with a working girl. Sure, you start to get the sex for free, but trust me as someone who has been there that it will only cause you grief in the long run.
If you want a girlfriend I do not think you will have any trouble finding a nice university girl. You have the best of both worlds in the eyes of a local girl - Chinese heritage, and a Canadian passport (coupled with a western sized bank account). I am sure all would agree that the best way to learn Chinese is to live with a native speaker for a few months. This will of course spoil you, and you will never look at another western woman again :)
Ah, to be mid-20's, single, and living in Beijing. You are in for a great semester. Good luck, and have fun!
Sammy[/QUOTE]Thanks Sammy_T. I will definitely try to meet up with fellow mongers in this forum when i get to Beijing and contribute with field reports.
“There are sure are a lot of girls in here...” =)
[QUOTE=Taiwan Guy]Hi NBG,
May I kindly ask what did you mean by "Taiwan Guy growing a serious set of cohones"? I am sorry but my English is not that good. And sorry for pushing you into the action and making distractions.
I met the same girl right after 1-2 hour (I didn't pay attention to the time) back to the Maggies. Just as you said, they will be back to look for more business!
May I ask what is the ST and LT price you said on the two girls, if you don't mind? You can look up how much I paid from my report.
Thanks,
Taiwan Guy[/QUOTE]
You have balls (cohones, probably spelled incorrectly, sorry)! Jumping right in, excellent post, I will add it to the "distinction" section later today when I get a chance. Hope to see you tomorrow. ST: rack rate 800. LT: more than twice that but we left early so I think it was more like LLT. Live and learn. You are a better negotiator than I am.
Sammy, BBB, OAH & friends: great to meet you last night, thanks for the intro to the Pig and Hollywood! I am in awe. You're stand-up guys (to use another confusing laowei term). I wish I could have followed you longer, but such is life.
I propose 9 PM at the Pig Wednesday as a good meeting time. Although I would vote to try KTV, I'm game for anything.
NBG
Is it me? Or is this forum starting to read like a screenplay of 'Mr. Bean and Felix Unger meet at St. Margarets'?
I'll be happy to find out for you. My hunch is you spent too much energy in bargaining. And jeez, Banana's! Who was the Manageress, Linda?
We'll figure it out Wednesday. When & where?
[QUOTE=Taiwan Guy]Since NBG (or OBG?) has posted his report, so here is mine:
My Chinese Valentine's Day experiences didn't come with a happy ending, unfortunately, but here is a lengthy report for your reading pleasure.
It was my 2nd visit to the Maggies. The 1st one was June 2005, so it was the old Maggies. I went with my then boss, who is a Norwegian. At that time there were full of older WGs, so I left my boss (who's having fun) there. I was told neither of them took any girls out. Sometime later my ex-boss told me he also had a few freebies there (he's a large guy, but somehow many non-WG female said he's cute. I will never understand why.)
Now it was Chinese Valentine's Day (Lunar calendar July 7th) in 2007 for my 2nd visit to the Maggies, and the main purpose was to meet the legendary NBG. It was very easy for me to get in: I just said I am from Taiwan and showed my entry permit (PRC does not honor Republic of China passport, so we have another kind of passport-like entry permit), then the guards said "Please come in! You are also a Chinese!"
NBG is a handsome guy, and I bet many girls will like him, and the another forum lurker speaks and jokes in perfect Chinese (his Chinese is far better than most Mongolian girls, and yes, even better than mine Taiwan-style Chinese.
Actually when NGB locked his target in and ready to go, I was still looking for my target. I bought some drinks for the Chinese manager lady (NGB told me she's managing the Mongolian girls, but the girls I took out seem like they don’t know her at all), so she was helping to introduce girls to me. I talked with a first few girls introduced, but didn't really like anyone of them When NBG is leaving, I wasn't "negotiating" but just "chatting" with a Mongolian girl who can speak better Chinese. The manager lady told me the girl was thirsty. I was too kind to buy the girl a drink, even though I didn't like her. I did this to let the manager "have face", so she can continue to introduce more girls.
I admit I am a picky guy (not necessary meant my selections were always better though.)
Then a Chinese bar girl was walking by, had some chat, I semi-joked to her that I was looking for a girlfriend for my Chinese Valentine's Day, then the manager also joined us the conversation. I bought drinks for both of them, again, to show my nice attitude in order to have a better chance to get a better girl out. I did some math some time later and found out I spent 500RMB in all these drinks for them. The "overhead" cost was kind of high. I should have had been looking for girls on my own.
Finally the manager introduced me to a beautiful girl. She's tall, white skin, charming eyes and smiles, however her breast is not large (I do prefer big tits, but no fatty girls), so her body shape is more like some thin models. Her name is Ogii. She has another friend, Zavy, who has large tits and also cute but later it turned out she's a bit fatty, and she's wearing tight underwear to make it looks thinner.
So as you can imagine, yes I took both of them out. Actually I was sort of hesitant. I was thinking whether I shall move on to Banana to try my luck (I remember I had been to Banana in 2001, and many Chinese WGs there, but it was 6 years ago.) Another concern was I couldn't find a budget hotel room around 200RMB nearby (yes I am too cheap to pay more. Taiwan guys’ salary is not as much as the mainland Chinese imagine.) Then I sneaked out of the Maggies to Banana a few minutes before 4AM, only to find out it's going to close in a few minutes right after my arrival. There were many girls waiting taxi. I tried to identify who's WG, but failed to find any. I was thinking whether I shall go back home, or shall I get back to the Maggies. I didn't know why I made the decision, but I went back to the Maggies. When I arrived back to the Maggies front gate it was 4:20-ish and it's also closed.
I called Ogii's cellular phone. She told me she's going to the Den. The Den is also one of my ex-boss favorite bars. My 1st time to the Den, all the waitress was hailing excitedly "(my ex-boss's name), long time no see!" Ogii, Zavy and another older Mongolian girl were there sitting in one table. We ordered some cokes (20RMB x 4 = 80, more cost than the food! I made another mistake to order that!) And some American type food (the food was tasty, probably because I was hungry.) We chatted there for some time. I was watching Zavy's large boobs and Ogii's lovely smile (she didn't put bras so I can see her smaller boobs), then my small head told me to take both out for the best of the both worlds. But for the lack of hotel room problem? My small head was stupid enough to risk to take them to my rented not-fancy-at-all apartment.
Then it was close to 6AM-ish. We started to negotiate the rate. In the Maggies Ogii once told me her rate is 600RMB for one hour, but she didn't have a rate for LT. Then I was asking how much she was asking for both, and then Ogii said "it's up to you." I almost wanted to say "free?" :D So the bargaining started from 500RMB for both, gradually up to 1000RMB for both and for staying until noon (around 6 hours.) They agreed.
So I took them to my apartment, on the taxi ride, the girls said they also used to rent in the same community (the building next to mine) a few months ago!
Here is the not-happy-ending part: when I was making love with Ogii and sucking Zavy's big breasts at the same time for some while (prior to my cum), I thought it's time to let Zavy to have more actions on me, so I told Zavy that it's her turn to make love with me. It was 7-to-8AM-ish. Suddenly, Zavy jumped up and said she wanted to leave now! I asked them why, but none of them was able to tell me why! Both of them don't speak good English or Chinese, so I thought it's the language barrier. I was still very upset and disappointed, and decided to ask both of them go back home (even Ogii said she could stay, but asked for more money.) I offered to pay them 500RMB for both (were asking 600RMB, 100 for Zavy, 500 for Ogii, but I said 500 for both and you two split), and I think 500RMB was still too much considering I didn't even cum, but I didn't negotiate too hard to avoid future troubles. I decided to go to the Maggies today to look for the manager to do the translation for the explanation. So I went to the Maggie again today, and met the manager and Zavy (didn't see Ogii, even I called her prior to my departure and she said she's there.) Then the manager translated that Zavy said I was paying too less, so they wanted to leave. I told the manager that they could just tell me that directly (I don't think it's language barrier anymore) at that time, and they could just say no before I took them out. I thought they agreed my 1000RMB for both girls LT offering, or they would not go with me, so it didn't sound right if they thought my offering was not enough but still went home with me? Comparing to what happened that morning, when I was asking them why broken our agreed upon deal, Zavy danced around saying she didn't like my place, etc. And at the time when they were leaving my apartment, Ogii gave me a hug and kiss, and Zavy's facial expression was not too happy. So it may be something went wrong with Zavy? Perhaps Zhuren or Sammy_T could help me to find out the true root cause on Wed, if both the two girls and the manager are around.
I didn't take out any girls at the Maggies today; in fact I just took a look around after the manager "translated" what Zavy said. I thought it's better to save my money for Wed actions. I did went to Banana once again, and there were so many people today. One girl was asking me whether I wanted to play with her together, but she just wanted 300RMB for tipping without going out with me. I could not identify other WGs, so I would need more suggestions from you guys (perhaps we can talk about it on Wed.)
So I look forward to meet you guys on Wed! I have some more questions around how to hide my expending so I would like to talk with you guys more about this face to face.
Cheers,
Taiwan Guy
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[QUOTE=Zhuren]I'll be happy to find out for you. My hunch is you spent too much energy in bargaining. And jeez, Banana's! Who was the Manageress, Linda?
We'll figure it out Wednesday. When & where?[/QUOTE]Thank you very much. Yes it was Linda. But the girls Ogii and Zavy seem didn't know Linda at all. And Zavy didn't show much respect to Linda last night (Monday), as when I asked her to walk with me (just several steps away) to talk with Linda, she refused and said Linda should walk to her to talk. So it's not like Chinese KTV mamasan. Does the Maggies charge any fees for the Mongolian girls to look for opportunities in the Maggies? Ogii told me they don't spilt the money with the Maggies, so I wonder what the business model is?
Look forward to meeting you on Wed.
Thanks,
Taiwan Guy
If someone of you is out for a massage with a happy ending, I can recommend Cici. She is quite tall for a Chinese woman, but also very thin, almost feeble.Definitely not every one's type.
Her massage though is really nice, she knows how to use her hands.
Never left unsatisfied. No FS though.She posts in Chinadaily.
Does anyone know, if those incall places around SOHO have some 8ish girls, preferrably tall ones available?
Thanks for hints and happy hunting.
[QUOTE=Zhuren]I'll be happy to find out for you. My hunch is you spent too much energy in bargaining. And jeez, Banana's! Who was the Manageress, Linda?
We'll figure it out Wednesday. When & where?[/QUOTE]Yes: let's be supportive of Taiwan Guy and his sidekick, New Beijing Dude. God knows, getting some in Maggies with only a 1000 RMB in your pocket can be daunting!
First, this Oogi that you picked is a surly, sneaky wench. Last summer she tried to renegotiate with me at 3am in the cab a block from my hotel. And I had already been with her a few weeks prior for the earlier agreed upon amount. Negotiation is fine, but once in the cab. The deal is done! But: "No problem", I said, opened the cab door in front of the hotel, helped her out, got back in, closed the door, and directed the cabdriver back to Maggies, leaving her standing with the Bellman in front of the Kunlun Hotel. Needless to say, she doesn't return my bright smiles and 'Sign ban no s' in Maggies anymore!
Secondly, making your choice at the pool table limits you to workers making a living hustling drinks and to those ladies who know they're not going anywhere until the good looking gals are gone and you are too drunk too notice their age and extra horsemilk pounds.
Thirdly, taking recommendations from 'Management' is suspect. Do you ask for condom recommendations at Watson's? Try asking the manager at The Lido which Chinese girls give the best rimjob. Please let me know before you ask.
Fourthly, you are not ready to 'take two' from Maggies. It's much more complex, for a variety of reasons. First, if any individual girl decides to take less, you think you've negotiated well. But she thinks she's less valuable. Maybe that's okay with her if only she knows. And I guarantee you that she does not tell her friends when she accepts 500 or 600 when she is used to always getting 800 or 1000. But when you have two girls, she cannot lie. These lovelies are not in Maggies to get laid, they are there for the money, always the money. Also I suspect that somehow you may have suggested paying Oogi more than her chubby partner. NEVER EVER DIFFERENTIATE PAYMENT FOR A TAG TEAM! I don't care if one girl gives you every orifice multiple times while playing the violin and her friend only plays with herself while watching Pay TV. YOU MUST PAY THEM THE SAME. Why? Again, too complex for these short paragraphs. But it's the law.
Whatever, lets get the other esteemed readers of this forum to help you with your situation. You are in bed with Oogi. She is on top (because she is a pro and knows not to be on the bottom in a 3way with a fat friend in case you decide to swing her chubby buddy onto her face). You are nursing the big gal. You suggest that it's time to switch and for some reason the big gal gets pissed. What happened? What do our wise experienced helpful forum readers think?
I'll start the ball rolling. You say: "time to switch". She says she wants "another condom", a reasonable request.
1) You offer her yesterday's condom sitting in a glass of water on the end table. She decides to leave.
2) You think she says 'another costume', so you take off your Spiderman jumpsuit and slip into the Japanese school girl outfit. She decides to leave.
3)? Help us out readers!
[QUOTE=Meiguoguizi]Is it me? Or is this forum starting to read like a screenplay of 'Mr. Bean and Felix Unger meet at St. Margarets'?[/QUOTE]I would urge everyone, including newbies, not to forget a certain amount of caution when talking publicly about "meet ups" on the main board. Share the stories, but remember the PM system is there too. Theres an awful lot of expat women as well as others with undesirable motives, in Beijing, who hold contempt towards our hobby and would jump at the chance of exposing you. Anyway, just a reminder. You dont need to be a senior trusted member to read when and where these meetings will take place. Keep up the info.
Sid
[QUOTE=Taiwan Guy]Thank you very much. Yes it was Linda. But the girls Ogii and Zavy seem didn't know Linda at all. And Zavy didn't show much respect to Linda last night (Monday), as when I asked her to walk with me (just several steps away) to talk with Linda, she refused and said Linda should walk to her to talk. So it's not like Chinese KTV mamasan. Does the Maggies charge any fees for the Mongolian girls to look for opportunities in the Maggies? Ogii told me they don't spilt the money with the Maggies, so I wonder what the business model is?
Look forward to meeting you on Wed.
Thanks,
Taiwan Guy[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry I was out of town. However, the arrival of the NBG Group had been telegraphed to me.
Nothing (especially movements of our guests from the 52nd province) remains unreported in the Nation's Capital.
Linda is the supervisor of the (Chinese) drinking=bargirls.
The drinking girls and the working girls are strictly separated at M's.
Drinking girls are employed (at low wages.) Their main source of income is tips from customers. They do not get a cut from the drinks.
There is no mama (or papa) san at M's.
The working girls act and work as independents. They pay no fee to M's. They pay for their drinks.
A supervisor like Linda has no authority over them.
However, people like Linda
- Can provide helpful feedback re: qualty and customer satisfaction based on feed-back received.
- Can instruct security to deny the WG further entrance to M's in case of valid customer complaints.
See you Wed.
[QUOTE=Zhuren]The working girls act and work as independents. They pay no fee to M's.[/QUOTE]Hi Zhu, Are you sure they pay no admission/security. I could have sworn they pay a monthly/weekly admission, albeit insignificant compared to what they make. I know the hot dogs are nice, but they're not that good:D
Sid
Unless various policies have changed:
To my knowledge the WG's do pay a fee to the house. I have seen them do this while eating a hot dog at the stand.
Only with rare exceptions, and I have indeed met a Chinese WG inside before, the Chinese girls in Maggie's are only allowed to sell drinks, not flesh.
The Hot Dogs are ok (no I would not call them great), and in the wintertime, the condiments are stone cold. However, if you are hungry, it beats wasting time at a restaurant instead of being inside where the action is!
Maggie's management can have an influence on WG's who cheat customers or do not abide by the common rules of fair play. (you could argue that taking a fee is implicit endorsement of a WG, there is at least slight culpability, and if nothing else Maggie's acts as an agent, providing a suitable working environment)
There is not an official Mamasan at Maggie's. Holy crap! That would make Maggie's a ***** House instead of a bar! :)
Sammy_T want to add or clarify any of this?
MAB
[QUOTE=Mock A Bee]Unless various policies have changed:
To my knowledge the WG's do pay a fee to the house. I have seen them do this while eating a hot
[/QUOTE]
Re: Fees. According to information provided independently by two Maggie's Managers, past and present, girls pay no fee.
Try sending your wife or GF alone to Maggie's, and she will be welcomed with open arms.
The manager's job is to make Maggie's the most pleasant destination for the monied male testosterone-driven expat. And roosters go where the chicks are.
The stupidity of charging a fee can be experienced nightly at a wasteland called Hard Rock.
Now if a chick feels compelled to tip a guard, and if he's dumb enough to take it, then that's a totally different story.
It's Tuesday night. I'm back in town. And the question is wide open:
[B]Where's the wednesday party at?[/B]
Hello everyone,
I am the "lurker" alluded to in NBG's and Taiwan Guy's posts about Maggies last Sunday, and I'm here to report on an excellent Maggies experience I had on Monday night, which would not have been possible had it not been for all the valuable information on this forum that I've been reading for the past month or so. Let my (until now) lurker status be a testament to the effectiveness of RTFF, which is really all I needed to do. Many thanks to everyone who has contributed (and to NBG and Taiwan Guy in particular for introducing me to Maggies on Sunday), and here is my humble addition:
I got to Maggies around 11 on Monday night, got a beer from the bar, and hung out near the pool table on my own, trying to scope out the situation but a bit nervous about approaching someone since I'm still new at this. Eventually, a fairly hot girl came up to me and started flirting with me. In my naivete, I was pretty sure she was a WG, because I didn't think bar girls were as physically forward as she was with me without any kind of provocation on my part. In hindsight, though, I should have known she was a bar girl because (a) her Chinese was perfect and (b) she insisted on me buying her a drink rather than leaving with me right then and there. I kept asking her where she was from and she never gave me a straight answer; she joked about being from another planet.
This ended up working out extremely well, though, because after buying her the ridiculously overpriced blueberry "drink" and continuing to chat with her on the couch, our discussion eventually became serious, and I was able to get her to bring me a Mongolian girl fit to my standards in exchange for a 300 RMB tip, all without me even having to get up from the couch. Talk about service.
The girl I was introduced to spoke no Chinese and hardly any English, but she was incredibly sweet, and I'd rate her as at least a 7.5. Soon after meeting her I took her out of the bar, and was able to get her into my hotel (Swissotel) without a problem. (So, we can probably add Swissotel to the list of GF places, although things there are a bit disorganized now with the main lobby closed for renovation, plus I think my entrance with the girl was particularly discreet).
I was originally planning to have her stay for just one time for the standard 800 RMB, which had been agreed on at the bar, but she was so sweet (and, of course, looked so good with no clothes on) that I couldn't bear to see her leave, and so I ended up having her stay until the next day for double the price. We went at it about 3 or 4 times altogether, with sleep dispersed intermittently, and I was particularly impressed by the fact that her smile never let up the whole time (maybe that's normal; I don't know...you tell me), and she seemed perfectly content with whatever I wanted to do. After one more go in the morning, she got up to shower, and I saw her off some time after 10, feeling satisfied beyond expectation. There's truly no place like Maggies!
BTW, I regret that I will probably not be able to make it to the party on Wednesday, but I wish everyone a good time.
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[QUOTE=SidTheSexist]I would urge everyone, including newbies, not to forget a certain amount of caution when talking publicly about "meet ups" on the main board. Share the stories, but remember the PM system is there too. Theres an awful lot of expat women as well as others with undesirable motives, in Beijing, who hold contempt towards our hobby and would jump at the chance of exposing you. Anyway, just a reminder. You dont need to be a senior trusted member to read when and where these meetings will take place. Keep up the info.
Sid[/QUOTE]
I share your concern for caution. My wife is bisexual. If she finds out about these meets, she'll want to join, and grab the hottest talent. Pls PM time & location. Xie xie!
[QUOTE=Zhuren]I share your concern for caution. My wife is bisexual. If she finds out about these meets, she'll want to join, and grab the hottest talent. Pls PM time & location. Xie xie![/QUOTE]Zhuren (the host / master / owner in Chinese),
I still cannot use my credit card to pay the subscription fee yet, as my local card is still pending, and I cannot risk to use my Taiwan card as the bills will be sent to my parents, even though it will only show a charity organization's name, it's still difficult to explain why I would ever want to make a donation. I am still waiting my local credit card. :(
Thanks,
Taiwan Guy
Dear All,
Will be staying next week in the Beijing Ritz Carlton which is apparently located inside the financial district of Beijing.
Any chance to find actions inside the Hotel (Bars, in room massage). If not is there any place close to it that you would like to recommend me.
Many thanks in advance for your answer.
Yours faithfully
I'll get the ball rolling. I think I have a good enough collection of cell numbers to handle the organization, and then hopefully we'll get at least one experienced senior member (if anyone is still alive after Monday night) to lead the charge in the field.
PM me for details to keep them offline in case anyone cares, and I'll reply before 6 PM. Taiwan & Lurker, I'll text you.
NBG
[QUOTE=Jim Daili]Dear All,
Will be staying next week in the Beijing Ritz Carlton which is apparently located inside the financial district of Beijing.
Any chance to find actions inside the Hotel (Bars, in room massage). If not is there any place close to it that you would like to recommend me.
Many thanks in advance for your answer.
Yours faithfully[/QUOTE]
You are in the nicest hotel in hell, my friend. Resign yourself to some taxi rides, otherwise I think you will be frustrated.
NBG
[QUOTE=Meiguoguizi]Yes: let's be supportive of Taiwan Guy and his sidekick, New Beijing Dude. God knows, getting some in Maggies with only a 1000 RMB in your pocket can be daunting!
...
[/QUOTE]
You are a very funny guy, I like your posts thus far. But with thanks, I'm just a Guy, not a Dude yet. You also have some good insights on Taiwan's experience, I think. Keep it up.
NBG
[QUOTE=Taiwan Guy]Zhuren (the host / master / owner in Chinese),
I still cannot use my credit card to pay the subscription fee yet, as my local card is still pending, and I cannot risk to use my Taiwan card as the bills will be sent to my parents, even though it will only show a charity organization's name, it's still difficult to explain why I would ever want to make a donation. I am still waiting my local credit card. :(
Thanks,
Taiwan Guy[/QUOTE]
Mei wen ti, 52nd province ren. LBG has my mobile and I assume you have his. Let's stay in touch via mobile.
At the moment, nobody seems to have a real plan. If none materiizes, then the default meet will be 9p at the Pig.
I know most destinations on the agenda,with exception of the naked KTV (any input?)
Let's have fun.
[QUOTE=Taiwan Guy]Here is the not-happy-ending part: when I was making love with Ogii and sucking Zavy's big breasts at the same time for some while (prior to my cum), I thought it's time to let Zavy to have more actions on me, so I told Zavy that it's her turn to make love with me. It was 7-to-8AM-ish. Suddenly, Zavy jumped up and said she wanted to leave now! I asked them why, but none of them was able to tell me why! Both of them don't speak good English or Chinese, so I thought it's the language barrier. I was still very upset and disappointed, and decided to ask both of them go back home (even Ogii said she could stay, but asked for more money.) I offered to pay them 500RMB for both (were asking 600RMB, 100 for Zavy, 500 for Ogii, but I said 500 for both and you two split), and I think 500RMB was still too much considering I didn't even cum, but I didn't negotiate too hard to avoid future troubles. [/QUOTE]
This is just a guess, but maybe it was Zavy's time of the month. I have seen this happen often when girls agree to go in pairs - one will let you have sex with them, but the other one will only let you "play" with them. Their goal is to get you to have sex with the first girl, with the hope that you will be too tired to do it with the 2nd girl. When you said you wanted to have sex with Zavy she did not want to reveal her situation because you certainly would have wanted to pay her less anyway.
As a rule the "threesome" in China is not the orgy people expect, and it does not seem to matter if you take Chinese, Mongolian, or Russian girls. Sure, it is possible to have a great threesome exierience, but this will typically be with girls you have taken before. They know what to expect from you, and you know what to expcect from them.
Sammy
[QUOTE=SidTheSexist]I would urge everyone, including newbies, not to forget a certain amount of caution when talking publicly about "meet ups" on the main board. Share the stories, but remember the PM system is there too. Theres an awful lot of expat women as well as others with undesirable motives, in Beijing, who hold contempt towards our hobby and would jump at the chance of exposing you. Anyway, just a reminder. You dont need to be a senior trusted member to read when and where these meetings will take place. Keep up the info.
Sid[/QUOTE]
I hate to sound paranoid, but I agree with Sid. Let's make a plan to meet at 9 pm, but change our starting location from the Pig to someplace to be disclosed via PM. I am sorry if this leaves some non-senior members out of the loop, but hey, you might be my bosses spouse lurking anyway trying to catch me :)
[RED]Please send me a PM with your mobile number (I will reply with mine), as well as where we will start our evening. We can also spread the word via SMS to those that do not have PM ability.[/RED]
Once we gather at the starting point we can have a beer and discuss our plans for the rest of the evening. I will make sure there are a variety of girls at our first location to keep us distracted :)
Sammy
[QUOTE=Mock A Bee]Unless various policies have changed:
To my knowledge the WG's do pay a fee to the house. I have seen them do this while eating a hot dog at the stand.
Only with rare exceptions, and I have indeed met a Chinese WG inside before, the Chinese girls in Maggie's are only allowed to sell drinks, not flesh.
The Hot Dogs are ok (no I would not call them great), and in the wintertime, the condiments are stone cold. However, if you are hungry, it beats wasting time at a restaurant instead of being inside where the action is!
Maggie's management can have an influence on WG's who cheat customers or do not abide by the common rules of fair play. (you could argue that taking a fee is implicit endorsement of a WG, there is at least slight culpability, and if nothing else Maggie's acts as an agent, providing a suitable working environment)
There is not an official Mamasan at Maggie's. Holy crap! That would make Maggie's a ***** House instead of a bar! :)
Sammy_T want to add or clarify any of this?
MAB[/QUOTE]
To follow-up on MAB's post -
The working girls entering Maggie’s (Mongolian, Chinese, and Russian) must pay a door fee if they come in by themselves. They make the payment at the hot dog stand. The fee is around 30 RMB, and gets them 1 drink. This policy was started when they moved to the new location at the south gate of Ritan park because the owner got tired of all the girls coming in and not buying any drinks. Typically if the girl comes in with a guy she does not have to pay because she is bringing business to the bar.
A Chinese working girl in Maggie’s is rare, but possible. It seems all the Chinese working girls know about Maggie’s. I have taken Chinese girls from the Pig, Hard Rock, and KTV with me to Maggie’s before. They probably cannot get past the front door on their own, but if they are with a westerner it is no problem. At that point I typically tell them they are free to work (while I look for a Mongolian) so you never know what you might find.
The Chinese girls working for Maggie’s are not available for take-out, but they will flirt, drink, and dance with you. They get a very small base salary, and do not get a cut of the drinks they sell, BUT in order for them to keep their job they must sell a certain number of drinks each month. If they do not meet their drink quota then they are out. When I buy a bar girl a drink I often take it from them and smell it to see if there truly is alcohol in it. I'm not going to by a high priced juice for them! If you buy a bottle of liquor or champagne this counts as several drinks towards their quota.
The Chinese bar girls are always a good source of information regarding which working girls are good/bad. Just be sure and take care of them as well by buying her drinks and giving her a tip. I consider myself generous, but never tip these girls more than a couple hundred RMB.
One time I caught a Mongolian girl stealing cash from me. She gave me a real "so what are you going to do about it" attitude. I went to Maggie's the next night, pointed her out to security, and she was never allowed back in. Maggie's knows that in order for them to continue to be successful they must first keep their customer basis happy.
There is a bar manager who makes sure everything run smoothly over all, a security manager, and then a manager for the girls. She is by no means a mama san, but just there to make sure the girls that work directly for the bar are out pushing drinks, ect.
Sammy
[QUOTE=Meiguoguizi]Yes: let's be supportive of Taiwan Guy and his sidekick, New Beijing Dude. God knows, getting some in Maggies with only a 1000 RMB in your pocket can be daunting! [/QUOTE]Thank you very much, Meiguoguizi. (I can read it's a Chinese phrase, but Taiwanese do not know Pinyin, due to we have an older spelling symbol system established before 1949.) Your guidance is much appreciated! I hope I will be able to meet you tonight.
Consider I already paid 500RMB for the drinks to Linda and other 2 girls, it's really daunting. It looks like Lurker also paid some tipping and drinks to a Chinese bar girl for "introducing" Mongolian, so I learned a lesson that I shall look for girls on my own.
[QUOTE=Meiguoguizi]First, this Oogi that you picked is a surly, sneaky wench. Last summer she tried to renegotiate with me at 3am in the cab a block from my hotel. And I had already been with her a few weeks prior for the earlier agreed upon amount. Negotiation is fine, but once in the cab. The deal is done! But: "No problem", I said, opened the cab door in front of the hotel, helped her out, got back in, closed the door, and directed the cabdriver back to Maggies, leaving her standing with the Bellman in front of the Kunlun Hotel. Needless to say, she doesn't return my bright smiles and 'Sign ban no s' in Maggies anymore![/QUOTE]Since we know Ogii has at least two records of breaking done deals, and Zavy is also involved in one. Sammy also said the managers want to make sure we customers are happy, so perhaps we shall talk to the managers to ban Ogii and Zavy?
[QUOTE=Meiguoguizi]Secondly, making your choice at the pool table limits you to workers making a living hustling drinks and to those ladies who know they're not going anywhere until the good looking gals are gone and you are too drunk too notice their age and extra horsemilk pounds.[/QUOTE]We actually moved away from the pool table when we started to take actions to look for girls.
[QUOTE=Meiguoguizi]Thirdly, taking recommendations from 'Management' is suspect. Do you ask for condom recommendations at Watson's? Try asking the manager at The Lido which Chinese girls give the best rimjob. Please let me know before you ask.[/QUOTE]I thought people said the management got the feedback of the girls, and the management did not want the customers not returning. But you are right that "management" recommendations are suspect. Again, lesson learned: do not reply on someone else to find girls for you.
[QUOTE=Meiguoguizi]Fourthly, you are not ready to 'take two' from Maggies. It's much more complex, for a variety of reasons. First, if any individual girl decides to take less, you think you've negotiated well. But she thinks she's less valuable. Maybe that's okay with her if only she knows. And I guarantee you that she does not tell her friends when she accepts 500 or 600 when she is used to always getting 800 or 1000. But when you have two girls, she cannot lie. These lovelies are not in Maggies to get laid, they are there for the money, always the money. Also I suspect that somehow you may have suggested paying Oogi more than her chubby partner. NEVER EVER DIFFERENTIATE PAYMENT FOR A TAG TEAM! I don't care if one girl gives you every orifice multiple times while playing the violin and her friend only plays with herself while watching Pay TV. YOU MUST PAY THEM THE SAME. Why? Again, too complex for these short paragraphs. But it's the law.[/QUOTE]I didn't suggest paying Ogii more. During the negotiation, I always offered the total price for the two. And you are right that I am not ready for the complex games due to two different girls have different bottom lines, and their feelings about their own "values", etc.
[QUOTE=Meiguoguizi]Whatever, lets get the other esteemed readers of this forum to help you with your situation. You are in bed with Oogi. She is on top (because she is a pro and knows not to be on the bottom in a 3way with a fat friend in case you decide to swing her chubby buddy onto her face). You are nursing the big gal. You suggest that it's time to switch and for some reason the big gal gets pissed. What happened? What do our wise experienced helpful forum readers think?
I'll start the ball rolling. You say: "time to switch". She says she wants "another condom", a reasonable request.
1) You offer her yesterday's condom sitting in a glass of water on the end table. She decides to leave.
2) You think she says 'another costume', so you take off your Spiderman jumpsuit and slip into the Japanese school girl outfit. She decides to leave.
3)? Help us out readers! [/QUOTE]Wow, you really scared me! You knew what happened exactly, except the condom part! It was actually me asking Ogii to be on the top, then I thought it would be more fun if I can nurse Zavy's tits. Didn't you put some spy cam on Ogii, after you dumped her in front of Kunlun Hotel? :)
Hope I can meet you up tonight.
Cheers,
Taiwan Guy
Ok, tonight I'll be at the Pig at (or soon after) 8:00 PM. From there I will proceed via taxi to the subsequent top secret rendez-vous location with the group at 9:00.
Please: if you want to meet me please PM, or text (Lurker and Taiwan who have my #), or worse case, post. So I know who is coming, who maybe to wait for. Then I can pass on a body count to Sammy.
And if I don't know you, please explain who you are (e.g. your ISG handle in SMS, please).
NBG
[QUOTE=Newbeijingguy]Ok, tonight I'll be at the Pig at (or soon after) 8:00 PM. From there I will proceed via taxi to the subsequent top secret rendez-vous location with the group at 9:00.
Please: if you want to meet me please PM, or text (Lurker and Taiwan who have my #), or worse case, post. So I know who is coming, who maybe to wait for. Then I can pass on a body count to Sammy.
And if I don't know you, please explain who you are (e.g. your ISG handle in SMS, please).
NBG[/QUOTE]
I'll meet with NBG at the Pig at 8 and help him herd the unititiated to the Undisclosed Location at 9p.
My wife has read the traffic, took my credit card and left with my secretary for a tour of Guo Mao, Lufthansa, Oriental Plaza, and China Central Place shopping areas.
Right on on all counts, including the drink coupon. I did not count that drink coupon as an entry fee. Actually, it's a discounted drink coupon.
[QUOTE=Sammy_T]To follow-up on MAB's post -
The working girls entering Maggie’s (Mongolian, Chinese, and Russian) must pay a door fee if they come in by themselves. They make the payment at the hot dog stand. The fee is around 30 RMB, and gets them 1 drink. This policy was started when they moved to the new location at the south gate of Ritan park because the owner got tired of all the girls coming in and not buying any drinks. Typically if the girl comes in with a guy she does not have to pay because she is bringing business to the bar.
A Chinese working girl in Maggie’s is rare, but possible. It seems all the Chinese working girls know about Maggie’s. I have taken Chinese girls from the Pig, Hard Rock, and KTV with me to Maggie’s before. They probably cannot get past the front door on their own, but if they are with a westerner it is no problem. At that point I typically tell them they are free to work (while I look for a Mongolian) so you never know what you might find.
The Chinese girls working for Maggie’s are not available for take-out, but they will flirt, drink, and dance with you. They get a very small base salary, and do not get a cut of the drinks they sell, BUT in order for them to keep their job they must sell a certain number of drinks each month. If they do not meet their drink quota then they are out. When I buy a bar girl a drink I often take it from them and smell it to see if there truly is alcohol in it. I'm not going to by a high priced juice for them! If you buy a bottle of liquor or champagne this counts as several drinks towards their quota.
The Chinese bar girls are always a good source of information regarding which working girls are good/bad. Just be sure and take care of them as well by buying her drinks and giving her a tip. I consider myself generous, but never tip these girls more than a couple hundred RMB.
One time I caught a Mongolian girl stealing cash from me. She gave me a real "so what are you going to do about it" attitude. I went to Maggie's the next night, pointed her out to security, and she was never allowed back in. Maggie's knows that in order for them to continue to be successful they must first keep their customer basis happy.
There is a bar manager who makes sure everything run smoothly over all, a security manager, and then a manager for the girls. She is by no means a mama san, but just there to make sure the girls that work directly for the bar are out pushing drinks, ect.
Sammy[/QUOTE]
Ok, guys, this is it.
The balls are in motion.
This is the plan:
1.) The Initiated already have the Undisclosed Location and will meet Sammy T there at the given time.
2.) The unititiated, people without PM capability, and others will meet NBG and Zhuren at 8pm at the Pig & Thistle, situated in the Holiday Inn Lido.
From there, you will be brought to the Undisclosed Location.
A Royal Tour of Beijing's Nightlife will await you, something that even oldtimers rarely experience, at least not in one evening.
- The Infamous Pig
- A really infmamous (but interesting place, rarely known.)
- A naked KTV
- Get a Hard On at Hard Rock
- Russians at Absinth
- More Russians at Hollywood
- Maggie's, the Holy Grail
The tour is free, BYOB, BYOG
We are at the undisclosed location. Sammy, NBG, 52nd Province Man (5PM), Bad Boy Billy (BBB,) & moi.
Sammy is in total control.
He ordered 10 Chinese girls. And 10 Mongolians for good measure. 4 girls for every guy. Paradise. And the night is young.
Eat your heart out if you ain't here.
Stay tuned for more.
After reading this board and posting when appropriate, I find myself very jealous of the groups tour. I only hope that I can meet someo of you next year when I come for the olympic games. I wish you all well on your night of fun and debauchery. Looking forward to the great reports and hopefully some even better pix
Be safe
[QUOTE=Zhuren]Ok, guys, this is it.
The balls are in motion.
This is the plan:
1.) The Initiated already have the Undisclosed Location and will meet Sammy T there at the given time.
2.) The unititiated, people without PM capability, and others will meet NBG and Zhuren at 8pm at the Pig & Thistle, situated in the Holiday Inn Lido.
From there, you will be brought to the Undisclosed Location.
A Royal Tour of Beijing's Nightlife will await you, something that even oldtimers rarely experience, at least not in one evening.
- The Infamous Pig
- A really infmamous (but interesting place, rarely known.)
- A naked KTV
- Get a Hard On at Hard Rock
- Russians at Absinth
- More Russians at Hollywood
- Maggie's, the Holy Grail
The tour is free, BYOB, BYOG[/QUOTE]
And so the party ended (not quite,) when two busloads of ISG members and ladies of the Mongolian persuasion arrived, where else than at man's Mecca, Maggie's.
The remainder of the stories shall be told by the individual participants.
Hi,
Am new to this forum and beijing. My client has asked me to bring them to the mentioned karaoke. Is this expensive place? Or is there any place near by?
Please help. Thanks!