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Hi Zork!
I was in Colombia the last years in two cities. Cartagena and Cali. The women in Cali are really more prettier and sensuals than in Cartagena, but Cartagena is a more beautiful city than Cali.
The best zone to meet girls in Cartagena is in "Boca Grande", the tourist distric of the city, with lots of hotels,restaurants. There are a long beach, but is better to go to "Isla del Rosario" if you are looking for a calm beach with clear water.
The nightlife in Cartagena is concentrated in a avenue where is the disco "La Escollera".
I hope to hear from you.
Greetings.
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Guys,
I am emailing with two chicks now....and they are BOTH not from Cartagena. But I heard this is Colombia's savest city and has a nice beach....so....
Any info on decent low profile hotels is welcome and GF-friendly offcourse.
Will travel there in February next year.
regards,
Johan.
PS: Jackson it looks real nice.....!
Cartagena, Colombia: July 2002- Part 1
I recently returned from a month traveling around beautiful Colombia (in July). Starting off with a couple of weeks in Cartagena (with a quick weekend trip to Barranquilla), I jumped over to Medellin for a week and a half. This report will be divided into three parts for easy reference: Part 1 will deal with Cartagena, Part 2 with Barranquilla, and Part 3 with Medellin.
Special thanks to Hunter for letting me shack up at his Cartagena apartamento at a good rate. It was a pleasure to hang out with Hunter, BonVvnt, UWPhoto (from TSM and WSA). Also, thanks to Gator and others for Medellin info.
Having a month to kill for my July, 2002 vacation, I was torn between Cartagena and Medellin. Cartagena was a known quantity to me where I had contacts, I felt very comfortable, and I knew I would have a good time; kind of like an ex-girlfriend I keep going back to. Medellin represented the thrill of the unknown and had so much potential upside that I was almost obsessed at the thought of what I might experience there. It was a tough call and after flip-flopping several times, I surmised that it would be “safer” for me to hit Cartagena again because of the recent events with Uribe, FARC, etc.
However, after about 2 ½ weeks in Cartagena (and a quick weekend in Barranquilla), I became restless. I took off for Medellin for 10 days and it was a good decision. I hope this report will shed some light on this much discussed, but rarely documented (at least in terms of potential chica opportunities) city. For specific Medellin info. look for Part 3 of my report in about a week.
For those of you who have never read any of my reports- even though I fully enjoy and participate in P4P opportunities, I usually make an effort to meet non-pros as well while exploring a new place/city. Thus, I will write about both pro and non-pro interactions (most non-pro interactions happened in Medellin), along with anything else of cultural or interesting significance to me. I have taken a few pictures, however, I find the endless pursuit of pictures to be, quite frankly, a pain in the ass.
I flew into Cartagena eager to check into Hotel Las Velas and head out to La Dolce Vita to see if my “old” favorita is still around. A lot has been said about HLV and what a dump it is but for my money, it is the best value in Cartagena at 90,000 pesos a night (something like US $32). The first room they gave me had shitty aircon (a common complaint concerning this hotel), so I simply returned to the lobby, explained my concern, and they immediately moved me with no problems to another room with much better aircon.
I did check out the Charlotte Hotel again just to get prices (I stayed there for a few days last December) and they now charge 130,000 which I don’t think is worth it, personally. Add to the fact that the night manager on duty had an attitude and acted like a complete DICK when I tried to negotiate (and he wouldn’t budge- surprising considering Cartagena was empty of tourists during July), I was happy not to patronize the Charlotte. My biggest problems with the Charlotte, as I have said before, are the “looks” you get as you leave the hotel in the morning. It is such a small hotel that you and your chica are quite conspicuous walking down that stairs into the lobby. But, hey, I know many that prefer Hotel Charlotte so to each, their own.
Anyway, Cartagena has been pretty well documented and the only thing I can really add is that during this latest trip the quantity and quality of chicas were noticeably down (compared to my trips in Dec. 2001 and March 2002). I stayed a couple of days at Las Velas before switching to Hunter’s apartment after BonVvnt (**********) left.
It seemed to me that only the most hardened of chicas have stuck around and I rarely came across a chica who was new in town (which was relatively common my first couple of trips). I hit all the usual places (La Dolce Vita, La Garita, etc.) and hung out at the beach in the day. I didn’t get a sense that there were a lot of college students in town on vacation (or tourists in general) which I was hoping for non-pro opportunities. The “normal” bars such as Mr. Babillas, Barbar, and to an extent Tu Candela were pretty much all (in general) disappointments. Babillas and the bars in that area were absolutely DEAD any night besides Saturday. Tu Candela would get busy late Wed-Sat, however, my observations are that there were a mix normal couples and mediocre (at best) pros.
Though disappointed overall with the “state” of chica-ness during this third trip, I still enjoyed the ambience of the old city and hanging out at the beach, the casinos, and with a few people a have befriended there over my 3 trips. The atmosphere of Cartagena is so unique and special that I know I will be going back there regularly. And I still found a couple of chicas with whom to spend some time (more on them later).
I ran into an old “favorita” (Alexandra- former LDV girl) in Casino La Perla early in my trip with whom I had spent a good deal of time during my first two trips. Previous to me running into her, I had heard from a friend that Alexandra was now “unavailable” because she now had a “novio” in Miami who was sending her (what must be) a shit-load of money (at least for Cartagena). Because of her new-found fortune, anytime someone runs into Alexandra, she tells them that she is leaving Cartagena for her hometown of Barranquilla soon. But, interestingly enough, she never does. She seems to pass her time now by plopping herself in front of the roulette wheel at La Perla at about 10pm and playing until closing time, 4-5 times a week! We talked a couple of times at the casino and she was cordial, yet somewhat cold to me- basically making it extremely obvious that she wasn’t available any longer. How fortunes change! I just hope for her sake I don’t return to Cartagena in a year or two and she is back working at La Dolce Vita after this latest “novio” gets tired of her.
I met one chica at La Garita named Geraldine with whom I spent a few days and with whom I had a pleasant time. She has been in Cartagena for a while, however, I have never gone with her (or even met her) before this trip. She was sweet and nice and I took her out, I think, four separate times since, quite frankly, I couldn’t find anything better.
Funny story concerning Geraldine- The second time I took her out, we were crashed in Hunter’s apartment. Well, Hunter happened to walk by my bed (he wasn’t aware I had brought a chica back the previous night) to see a topless, sleeping Geraldine sprawled out. Fast forward a couple of hours and Geraldine is gone and Hunter says he “fancies” her (to get the full affect you have to say “fancies” with a THICK English accent). So he asks me (the gentleman that he is) if he could “have a go at her sometime”. Now I think I have a very healthy, realistic take on the whole professional scene in Cartagena in that I don’t believe it is my “right” to “claim” a girl or whatever. In my opinion, this is her job and who I am to say “No, you can’t go with her. She’s mine!” Especially, if I did not have any intention of taking out Geraldine every night of my trip (I am more of an “every other day” type of guy). So I basically tell him it’s not my place to answer that question. Well, I returned from Barranquilla a few days later and Hunter tells me that the previous night he had a wonderful time with Geraldine! Shit, I didn’t think he would move that quick. So I’m like, shit, now I have to find someone else since I certainly don’t want her now after Hunter had her (I’m sort of odd that way- I would much rather go with a pro that hasn’t been with someone I know).
I then see Geraldine at LDV a couple of days later and she approaches me immediately. I inform her that I wouldn’t be going with her because of this “policy” I have. But we can still be friends and I feel bad so I buy her a drink. She starts flirting with me and getting touchy/feely. I look around for anything better or even of similar quality but there was nothing (as I said quality was way down). So I gave in and ended up with her 2 more days and Hunter got a good laugh out of the whole situation (since I had explained to him earlier that I was positively, absolutely done with her).
NOTE: SKIP THIS NEXT PARAGRAPH IF YOU GET GROSSED OUT EASILY
You have been warned. Another girl I met in La Garita was an absolute tiger in bed- I think her name was Isabell (I believe she is pretty well known commodity in Cartagena). The only thing I really have to say about her is that during my evening with her, she said that she wanted to give me a “regalo” and pointed to her very nice ass. Now, I have experienced anal sex a few times in my life and thought, “Cool, let’s go.” So she is on-top of me doing her thing and appears to be really into it (apparently she prefers this type of sex over “regular” sex). She obviously has an orgasm (or faked it real well, all the same to me) and I was a bit disappointed because I wasn’t finished. Too bad because she is finished and she tries to take me out of her without losing the condom up that sweet ass of hers. Well, apparently this move loosened some things up because as I slipped out of her I was SHOCKED and HORRIFIED to see that the condom on my manhood was actually LAYERED with a thick coating of doody. And, the smell was beyond words (I am talking BAD)! When Isabella realized what had happened, she was HORRIBLY embarrassed and immediately brought me to the shower to clean me off. Although I had heard of this phenomenon happening to other guys, it had never happened to me. I was actually laughing about it to try and cheer her up about it since she was clearly humiliated.
One night I took off with a couple of friends to a Colombian discoteca out towards the mall called “Carumba”. There were some real possibilities in there for “normal” Cartagena chicas. I didn’t see any 9 or 10’s, however, there were a few 7’s and 7.5’s who did not appear to be pros. I was (and would continue to be) a little edgy about venturing out into that part of Cartagena with the increased FARC/ELN activity, however, it was nice to go to a place with different options.
Cartagena is really a magical city but you missed out on some places - the brothels that cater to tourists during the day and the sailors during the night.
There are a great deal of them but they are not located in the centro like club Dulce Vita and Gavita. The best one is Manila House but there are dozens of others that all the cabbies know about, although some can be fairly rough.
And also there is Escorilla in Bocagrande, a bit past its prime.
Manila house has some 8's but mostly 6's. Inhouse the price is about $40 USD and to take them out it will cost about $70 for all night.
Colombia really is a wild card now. For example the highway between Cartagena and Barriquilla is really dangerous, with FARC, ELA and just plain bandits working it at night. If they think they can make a bit of money from kidnapping you they will, as they have nothing to lose. 93% of murders in Colombia go unsolved, so they can do what they want. There is little risk in crime, particularly with a foreigner.
During the day....the chances are better but you take your chances.
Overall in Colombia chica wise.
All the girls are very sentimental (romantic). Compared to ultra sophisticated American girls (at least the ones I know in New York City) they are almost like children
On the coast - Santa Marta, Barranquilla, Cartagena you have your mullato
"tropical" girls and they can be far more beautiful than in say the Domican Republic, particularly if they have that added drop of Indian blood. And they are really nice, sexually and personally.
Bogota - the girls are so so. It's a big city, without a clear cultural identity like Medillion or Cali.
Medellin is know for the winners of the Colombian beauty pageants and you have some really hot girls there but they are kind of reserved and materialistic. And it's really family orientated. That's why you can't get fucked so easily with an amateur in a few days. You have to put in your time, meet the family, etc. It's an agrarian society.
In general everyone is trying to get out of Colombia. The countries is a really bad state - massive violence in the countryside, now spreading to the cities- and there is real danger there - take it from me, someone who has been coming down there to monger for ten years. It's now a war zone.
I suggest you consider other places in Latin America- Cuba, Argentina, Costa Rica (Mc Sexlandia).......
Zippy,
Loved your report man.....:-)I myself am still In doubt IF going to Cartagena,BQ Or even Cali.
At all costs I will avoid Bogota. (I spend 2 weks in Lima...dearly missing the beach and the sea)As I also am looking for serious wife. I don't like snobs or high profile attituded wome.
Besides that I like the sea and beach.
Did those street vendors in Cart. gave you a hard time??
wtf you mean with "doody"???blood??? [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] or what??(sorry I am non-native english!)
Any suggestions for cheap (hehe) decent GF-friendly hotels??
Did you travel by land to BQ Zipy???
Keep up the good work.
Johan.
Johan...
By "doody" I basically meant that the girl crapped on me. Wasn't a pretty sight, let me assure you.
The street vendors (touts) are a pain on the ass in Cartagena and you are better off ignoring them whenever possible.
As far as hotels, I am only familiar with what I mentioned in my reports.
And yes, I took a cab during the day from Cartagena to Barranquilla.
Zippy....
that ho crapping on you.....fuck....that is REAL NASTY!!!:-(
Never had that before.
I hear Indians (from India) do that all the time during sexgames....??
I don't see were the fun is.......I just think it's disgusting.
Johan.
Well, the girl didn't crap on me purposely...it just sort of slid out after a little anal sex. It happens sometimes and the girl (who was VERY sweet) was very embarrassed!
[QUOTE]Originally posted by FANTASY
[i]i have finally worked up the courage to travel to colombia. i need help. i figure the place to go for a first timer in the region is carta.
i am an experienced sex traveler (over 29 countries), i speak fair spanish, as it is my fourth language. can anyone suggest girl friendly hotel on the beach, in close proximity to the action. not looking for a real budget place, or a five star, something in between. also where are some safe places to go for some reasonable hot action. thanks in advance for your help. also cali info would help. [/i][/QUOTE]
I'm kind of an sexpert on Cartagena, since I've been there about ten times.
In Colombia I would say that NOW Cartagena is the only city that is reasonably safe. It was quite safe a few years ago but with the civil war really heating up now there are about 2 million internal refugees that have moved from the countryside to the relative safety of the city and these people will do what they can to survive.
To start off Cartagena is devastingly beautiful, a completely intact sixteenth century colonial city with a wall around the city- built to keep out the English and French pirates - that the locals stroll up and down at sunrise. It's one of those places that you just have to see one time in your life. There's really nothing like it. Think of the great colonial Spanish cities, Puerto Rico, Havana and multiply it by five. It's a stunner. See the movie "The Mission" shot in Cartagena and set in the sixteenth Century and you get the idea of what it looks like today. And the people are really cool.
If you are on a no budget budget you can stay on one of the el cheapo backpacker hotels in the old city on calle media luna between $6 and $15. A nice cheap fish meal is about $4, beers are around $1.
On a normal tourist level I recommend the hotels in Bocagrande, such as the three star Bahia (my favorite and chica friendly) for around $34....and the five star Caribe, around $60 (but not chica friendly - you have to pay for a double to take take a girl up.)
There are plenty of SW in the old city and the main drag of bocagrande for about $25 or less but some are TV's and the quality isn't great.
Club Escorilla after midnight is where you will meet some great chicas, some from Cali and Medillin, where the most beautiful girls come from, that are around 7 and 8's for $50 or less for todo el noche, sometimes with GFE (YMWF).
Be careful about walkling around the area at night , as there are muggers. I recommend taking a taxi to the hotel with the girl, even if it is just a few blocks away.
In the old cities are several places also, although I can't remember the names as they change often but everyone knows them. One was La Dolche Vita but I'm not sure it it is closed or not.
There are lots of brothels near the port that cater to tourists from the Cruise lines during the day and sailors at night. The most famous is Manila house, run by a really nice Italian guy. Some really nice girls there, for about $40 in or $70 to take out and the place is safe. The taxi drives know about this place and several others.
As for the rest of Colombia....Cali has the prettiest girls by far, and Medilin is a close second don 't go there now. You really have no idea what can happen.
I read a post from Nibu about the emerald district and the brothels there but those areas are like an old West mining town and about as dangerous for foreigners as probably anywhere on the planet.
As for me it seems that all the action now is in Buenos Aires and that's where I monger next.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Nibu Raphael
[i]Saw on the travels with Michael Palin video that Cartegena seemed pretty colnial and nice at least in centro. Yes I would say definetly one beautiful city. Hey What are the newspapers in Cart. you find sex ads in?
> newspapers with Sex ads in Cartagena don't exits. The way to find out about the hobby scene is from posts on WSG and from taxi drivers.
Jamesbond,Zyppy,Nibu,others,
As I said My German buddy Dieter and I will travel to cartagena in february 2003 AND TO CALI!!!(YES). This is most likely between 11-feb. and 1 March.
If anyone of you mongers feel to join EMAIL me privately at:
johan_nl@eudoramail.com
I will try to find more guys that will join up. Canadian Pete?? Forget about Cuba and come to Colombia! US Pete (he is punting right NOW in Moscow....;-)
I am also want to organise a MEGA GANGBANG there with at least 4-6 women.
Jamesbond: 50 US $ sounds ok with me for an allnighter!! But I don't pay 60 bucks for a hotel.....no way Jose..!
******* if ye read this I hope some day we will meet in Colombia because I know you are one of the Greatest Mongers of us all!!!!!:-)
btw An Argintina trip for me in September 2003????(that is if I not get "stuck" in Locombia....) I hear the Argie ho's are willing and pretty.....hehe.
CU
Johan.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by johan007
[i]Jamesbond,Zyppy,Nibu,others,
> I will travel to cartagena in february 2003 AND TO CALI!!!(YES). This is most likely between 11-feb. and 1 March.
If you are going to Cartagena around that time set the days to cover the first week in March. That's when the Cartagena Film Festival takes place and there are lots of parties, with non pro chicas that are open minded and of course, for the back up later in the evening, the standard pro action.
Also it's a bit more lively during the festival, as more people are in town.
hey realy like what i hear it isa beach town has it been safe there for gringos. I realy dont want to fly to bogata or cali but miami has a direct flight so how about march there how is it
I will be in cart near carnival any one been to baq for it staying in a apt a few days any interesting places I should go feb25
Cartagena Film Festival
28 February-7 March 2003
Baluarte de San Francisco, Calle San Juan de Dios, AA 1834, Cartagena, Colombia
Tel: +57 5 664 2345/660 0966
Fax: +57 5 660 0970
Email: festicine@telecartagena.com
Website: www.festicinecartagena.com
Festival director/programmer:
Victor Nieto
Competition: The Catalina Indian Award
Previous winner: At the Left of the Father (Luiz Carvalho, Brazil)
Entry deadline: 30 January 2003
how is cartegena scene lately disco tec s and the clubs plaese give details
Well here is how my first day in Columbia.
K11, Dave and myself arrived in Cardegena yesterday at 1:30. We were the only tourists on the plane. We went through customs which was pretty interesting. They searched everything we had, it took almost 40 miniutes. We decided to stay at the Almirante Hotel, which is very nice. We got a travel agent rate of $60.00 per night for a double room with a king size bed.
After unpacking we decided to hit the streets. The local area of BocaGrande is a long strip with hotels on the beach. The area is full of "touts" that bug the hell out of you every 30 seconds. I was very unimpressed with the girls walking the streets. The Columbian girls in Panama are 10x as beautiful. Around 5:00 we decided that we wanted to find here the chica´s were. We hired a local to take us around for the night. (cost $20.00).
The first place he took us was terrible. I believe the name was Aeropostale. The girls were gross. There wasn´t a 5 in the place. About this time I was really getting pissed that I made the trip. We decide to go eat and return to some other places later hoping that the selection would be much better.
After dinner the second place we went was the Pleyboy club (yes the spelling is correct). We arrived at about 9:00. There were about 6 or 7 girls there, with the quality being much better. I would say that out of all the girls there were 4 or 5 that were 6-7 range. Still very unimpressed we headed to our third place. At this point I was ready to head to the airport to change my ticket back. By the way the cost quoted at Aeropostale was $50.00, on site for 1 hour ( I wouldn´t have paid $5.00 for a whole month). The quote at Pleyboy club was $130.00 for the whole night at your hotel.
The third stop was Manilla (sp?) house. The place was kind of interesting. There was a room up front, then another samll room, a bar and a patio with tables and chairs in the back. There were aprox. 10-12 girls there in every different color, size, and shape. We decided to sit for awile and have a couple of drinks. The girls are very shy in Cardegena and can come off as very cold. Not one girl came up to us at any of the stops. All of the initial contact has to be made by you. K11 started doing his magic tricks which actually broke the ice and warmed the girls up a little.
I was still not impressed. There were a couple of "cute" one´s there but nothing you would travel all this way for. Then Viviana walked in. She was AWESOME. She is a beautiful 20 year old form Baraquilla. This was what I was looking for. I smiled at her and she asked me to come sit by her. After talking with her for awhile, we started to hit it off. It wouldnt have mattered how beautiful she was if she was a "cold one".
The next thing that happen was probably the highlight of the evening. While Lonnie was doing his magic trips he lost his "magic" pen cap. He started to freak out. He offered a $50,000 peso reward for whoever found it. It was histerical, there were 10 girls, our guide, 2 guys who worked there and K11 looking for this thing. It is amazing what people in these countries will do for a little money. They looked for a good hour before our guide found it. When he found it you would have thought that he won the lottery.
After this "circus" we decide to leave. Dave took a girl with him and I took Viviana with me. Total cost was negotiated at $20.00 for the Salida and $50.00 for her. This was for all night and all morning. We decided that we wanted to have some fun before heading back to the hotel. We went to Mister Babilla´s. This place is a blast. There were alot of people there for a Wednesday night.The crowd was mostly tourist´s and a few "working " girls. I would highly reccomend taking a girl here if you are looking for the GFE.
The girls had an absolutly great time. We ended up closing the place and heading back to the hotel. Viviana was great. She was a blast last night and was ready again this morning. So after a slow start the night turned out to be great. I was tempted to have Viviana stay with me today since I didn´t see very much last night, but I didn´t want to lock myself in in case things got better. I told her to call me later and that I would have her come back tonight or tommorrow. We are headed to the old city today to check things out there. I will email you later and let you know what we found.
MAV
*******...
Go check out La Dolce Vita in Laguito or La Garita in the old city. But make sure you wait until AFTER 11:30. The casas you visited are hit or miss at best.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Zippy
[i]*******...
Go check out La Dolce Vita in Laguito or La Garita in the old city. But make sure you wait until AFTER 11:30. The casas you visited are hit or miss at best. [/i][/QUOTE]
Also check out the Casa de Munecas and the International Club (although I doubt you will find anything you like at the International Club) Both are in the same general area as the Manila House.
My opinion: the Manila House is the best house in Cartagena. Also curious to know if there is any action anymore in Escollera in Bocagrande? Is it still open?
I checked out La Escalera twice in December and it was pretty dead, pro-chica wise (1 or 2 very poor looking chicas). If it weren't for the chivas putting this bar on their nightly schedules, the place would have had to close months ago.
Oh, and street action Calle 5 is dead now also. They arrested all the pros, pimps, and drug dealers a couple of months ago and are now making an effort to keep the streets quiet. Not sure where they moved...
I have been following you guys since panama and you are very detail oriented but the prices are cheaper in cart not saying you should be with dogs but keep in mind panama is very high to me but you guys had such a blast i will go there soon keep postin much appreciated
Heading to Cartagena next week, are there any WSG members there the same time?
I know about manilla and ldv from other post yes stay away from touts so any other options for pickn chicas up will be there for fim festival and then to baq for carnival nedd a game plan.
Dave and I arrived at from Miami at 5:15. We flew Aces Airline from Miami. It was beautiful. It is about a two and a half hour flight with a decent meal and a ful movie. The planes are new and have plenty of leg room. We decided to rent 2 one bedroom apatments from Eddy.Eddy had his driver, Gustavo,and Gustavos brother Peter waiting for us at the airport. I was in the condo Eddy owned (503) and Dave was in another renter´s (403). My condo was nice. It was decorated nice, had a good bed, and safe and hot water. Daves condo was terrible. It was dirty, no safe, ugly as hell and no hot water. We decide to stick it out one night and look the next day for an alternative. After getting settled I was feeling a little frisky so I agreed to let Freddie the cabbie outside find me a women. We agreed that I would pay 10,000 pesos to him and 50,000 pesos to the girl if he found one I liked. After about 20 miniuted he returned with a beautiful, but very young looking chica. I asked her how old she was and she sadi 18. I asked Freddie how old she was and he said 18. I did not believe either one, but decided to take a chance. We agreed to a one hour session, since I was headed out in an hour. When we got upstairs she started with a massage, which I needed terribly after the flight. After about 5 miniutes she started to grind me. Well that was it I flipped he 98lb body over and had my way with her. The session was solid, a little mechanical but very good never the less. The session ended up taking an hour and a half so I was late meeting Dave downstairs. When I got downstairs I apologized to Dave and we headed out for the night.
We decided to use Peter as our guide/taxi for the evening. I asked him how much and he hesitated to anwser. He told me taht he would figure it out later. Well I am smart enough never to go anywhere with agreeing ahead of time on the price. I told him I need to know how much. He said that he would take us to a place and if we liked it he would charge us $10.00 us each. I laughed, I told him I would give him 10,000 peso and hour and that was it. He tried for more and I told him we would find someone else. He quickly agreed and we headed out. The first place he took us was The International (casa). We got there about 10:00 and there were aprox. 15 girls there. We decided to sit have a few beers and check out the talent. After about 10 miniutes a girl from Madellin came and sat with me. A few miniutes later she got her friend to sit with Dave. The place had some decent talent but mostly 6´s & 7´s with possible 1 eight. The girls who sat with Dave was the eight, from Barranquilla. My girl was very friendly, but did nothing for me. Daves´s girl was beautiful, but as cold as it is in Michigan right now. After about a hour my girl tried to coax me back to the condo with her. I told her I was tired from the trip and couldn´t do it tonight. For the hell of it I asked how much it was for the night. She told me $70.00 us (way to much), and since I wasn´t interested I did not try to negotiate. She gave me her phone number and we headed out. We told Peter we didn´t like anthing there and wanted to head somewhere wlse. I content on looking at this point since I has just released my urage earlier, but I wanted Dave to find something. The next place Peter took us was Manilla House. Well any of you who read my last report know that I have a girl here that I really enjoy. I had promised Dave and myself that I would not go there until later in the trip since I would end up keeping her for a long time. Well when I got in front of the place I cracked. Dave told Peter to go somewhere else, but I said wait. Dave begged me not to go in by I didn´t listen. He refused to go in with so I went by myself and told him I was just going to say hi and I would be right back alone (Who was I kidding). When I got in there everyone remembered who I was. I have only been there once but the people here have great memories. The owner came up and said hi and asked if I wanted Viviana, I sais yes and he sent one of the girl´s for here. When Viviana turned the corener she screamed and came running up to me a kissed me until I almost fell over. Talk about an ego boost. Here is this beautiful 20 year old gril estatic to see me. At that point there was no way I was leaving alone. I asked her if she wanted to go back with me (Gratis of course) and she screamed yes. I sent her for her stuff and went to tell Dave. I know Dave wasn´t going to be happy, but Viviana agreed to go with us to looke for a girl for Dave. Well Dave took th news a lot worse then I thought. He screamed, yelled and called me every name in the book. He told me that I was ruining his trip on the first day and that he would never have came if he knew I was going to get her the first day. I explained that she was goin to he us find Chica´s for him but he didn´t care. He yelled and screamed some more and took off with the cab. I waited for Viviana and took another cab back to the condo. You have to understand that Dave doe not know anyone here and does not speak a lick of Spanish. At this point I am feeling like crap. When we get back I went to Dave´s room but he was not there. I went back upstairs, wrote him a note, and slid it under his door. At this point I had done everything I could and headed back to my room for Viviana. I proceded to have an incredible night with Viviana making everything else go away. I was falling farther into lust.
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[u]Day 2:[/u]
Well I woke up in the morning with a huge smile on my face from the night before, but I felt really bad about the altercation with Dave. After dragging myself out of bed I went down to Dave´s to talk. He was awake and we both cleared the air and decided to start over. I went back to my room and told Viviana that I was going to hang out with Dave for a fews days and then come back and get her so we could hang out. I explained everything to her and she was sad but understood.
Dave and I decided to look at other condos in the area to see if there was an alternative plan. Eddy also said that he was going to talk to the other American in his two bedroom to see if he would move to the one bedroom. Well in our travels we say a complete array of condos. You can rent a condo here for as little as $20.00 a day (really nasty) all the way to $100.00. The common factor is that almost every condo does not have hot water. After looking all day we decided to see what Eddy came up with. Eddy was able to move the other American to his one bedrrom and we took the two bedroom(801). The condo is Ok. It is clean, has two double beds in the bedrooms and has HOT water. We decided that it would work.
After wasting half the day looking Dave decided that he wanted to take a nap. There was no way I was wasting more time in that condo, so I headed for the beach. While I was walking to the beach I was stopped by this black guy asking me where I was from. Turns out that it was the infamous beach tout Tony. He told me that there were a couple of other American on the beach that were staying in Bruces condo. He walked me over to them and introduced me. They were both TSM vets and two of the nicest guys you could ever meet. They had both been there several times, so I ended up spending the rest of the afternoon picking there brains. It was very educational. Tony brought over a couple of girls to are cabana. One ws from Barranquilla and the secon one was from the other city in Colombia that starts with a M ( I cannot pronounce it). Two very nice girls that hung out for awile and lets us take a couple of pictures.
After the beach the two TSM guys were headed to the old city to a steakhouse and invuted Dave and I . I accepted and we headed out. This steakhouse was Awesome. We all had filet´s that were incredible(I will post the name under the food section of the Colombia board). This was the best meat that I have had outside the US. After dinner we Dave and I made a plan to head to La Doce Vita.
We headed up to La Doce Vita around 10:30 that evening. The place was pretty dead with a few girls. Within an hour the place was hopping. This place is great. The owner is Aldo, an Italian, and he make you feel completely welcome. I introduced myself and he told me if I needed anything just to let him know. La dolce Vita is a disco that is full of freelancers, similar to High Caribe in DR... but better quality. By 11:30 there were over 30 girls in the place with aprox a dozen Very Very nice prospects. Of all the places I have been so far this is the best combination of atmosphere, quantity, and quality. After about an hour I decided to make my move. I saw a girl that wasn´t the best looking girl in the place , but had something about here. She was very tall (which normally I do not like, being 5? myself), with great looking rack. She came over and sat with me for about 2 hours. There is no salida at La Dolce Vita, but the drinks are pretty expensive. After having a few to many drinks I negotiated with my girl. She asked for $150,000 pesos ($50.00US)to start but I was able to get her down to $100.00($33.00). I told her for the whole night but she said that she had to go to school tomorrow and could only stay until 5:00am. I agreed. This girl was incredible erotic at the bar. She danced incredible sexy and was totally turning me on. The one thing that she lack was affection(clue number 1), but I was willing to overlook this. I was ready for a wild night. After we left we headed to the condo, on the way she ran into some Italian´s that she knew really well(clue number 2). When we got up stairs she agreed to a couple of photos, but only with here cloths on. I didn´t push the issue and started to shoot. After a couple of miniutes she asked for the money for the night(clue number 3), I thought this was a little strange but gave it to her. When she put away the money she started to become a little agressive, I liked this. She got undressed and started to do her thing. She had an incredible body and her tit´s were even better then I thought. She gave a very nice blow job, but stopped fairly quickly to move on to sex. When hitting the bed I started to caress her body and found out that her tit´s were too nice. They were fake(clue number 4). Now I am all for fake tit´s , but you never ever see this in these countries. They don´t have enough money to eat let alone spend $5000.00 on new tits. Well then things started to change, she started to rush me big time. I hate to be rushed and this was a huge turn off. I tried to get her to slow down and relax but she just kept pushing and pushing. At this time I started to get really pissed. I told her that we agreed until 5:00 in the morning at that it was only 2:15. Out of the blue she jumped up, told me that I was a big problem and stormed out. After this I was about to explode. After venting with Dave for awhile , I decided to go back and talk to Aldo. Even though he doesn´t have anything to do with the girls there, he does screen them to let prople know who is good and who isn´t. He was very apologetic and said he would talk to the girl. I thanked him and headed back to the condo. Needless to say this put a really bad taste in my mouth and left me saying...... Where is Viviana? After doing all this so Dave could have fun, he ended up going home solo. I am starting to wonder......
[u]Day 3[/u]
Well after my bad experience the night before I kind of woke up with an attitude. Dave and I went to the normal bakery(El Pandora) for our two cappachinos to start the day. After a little roaming around the city we decided to hie the beach. Dave has quite smoking this trip and it is really killing him right now. He has been a sport and gone everywhere I have suggested, but it is really affecting him. When we got to the beach we meet up with Tony and got a cabana. I was really looking to jump back into the ¨fire¨to get the experience from the nght before out of my head. I told tony that I was looking for a chica and wanted her ASAP. He brought over a attractive(aprox. 7) girl that seemed very friendly. I was not Wowed by her beauty but was intrigued by her energy. After having a couple of drinks I asked her how much for an hour. She started at $70.00 us. I just laughed. I told her to quote me in pesos. She then said 100,000 pesos($35.00) I said too much. Well after some negotiating we settled on 60,000 pesos($20.00). At this point I was ready. I left Dave with my chica´s friend and headed for the hotel. When we got there I started with my usual massage setup. She was not going to have anything to do with that and flipped me over. From there she went to work, she was great in the sack. Willing to do whatever and truely enjoying it. She had a little ¨mala¨streak in her which I loved. After a full hour of service and two completetions, she was in no hurry to head out. So the next step was naturally bringing out the camera. This girl was not camera shy. I got some great up close and personal shots that I will post tomorrow(when the internet here is working better). After the photo session I got her number and sent her on her way.
After a quick nap and a shower Dave and I headed to Riquisimo for dinner. This place has been posted about before and is a complete steal. The food is great and it is one of the cheapest places I have been to. After dinner we headed over for some cappachinos and talked with Eddy. We decided that we were going to hit La Dolce Vita again that night. Even though I had a bad experience there I loved the place and knew there was quality there.
We headed to La Dolce Vita about 10:30. I like getting there early so I can see all the girls as they come in. It is a great place to relax and start your drinking early. When I started to gaze over the crowd I noticed that the girl from my bad experience was there. At this point I had already moved on and wasn´t going to say anything. Well as I was looking around she caught my eye and put her face in her hands. I just shook my head and the next thing I know she was headed over. When she got there she apologized and told me that she was having problems. She tried to explain to me but as she talked quickly I could not understand. I told her no problem and thanked her for apologizing. She then offered to go back with me ¨gratis? I said thank you but that it would not be neccesary. Now I don´t know if this was Aldo´s doing or her true feeling, but it was a nice gester on someones part and very much appreciated. As I scoped the room I was feeling a little out of it. I´m not sure if it was the little amount of sleep catching up with me or some bad news I got from home that day, but I was really feeling down. There were probably 30 girls there again and about the same quality. thre was a group of Italians that came in about 12:00 and wasted no time in scouping up the five best looking girls in the place. Dave had headed out at 11:00 to meet a girl back at the apartment and at 1:00 I decided to call it a night a head back. When I got back to the apartment I was really feeling like shit. All I could think was I don´t want to feel likes this on vacation. At that point I knew that there was only one thing that was going to get me out of my funk... Viviana. So I went down stairs and got a taxi and headed for Manilla House. When we got ther (about 2:00) the place was closed. The taxi went up to the door but the manager told him that they wern´t open. I sent him back and told him to tell them that MAV was there for Viviana. Well that did the trick. The opened the doors let me in and went for Viviana. It is amazing how well they treat americans after they get ot know them. Viviana came down we headed back to the condo and all was GOOD. So times you need that little extra special feeling to get you back in the groove. I will post the pictures of the beach girl tomorrow (I think that you will like them).
[u]Day 4[/u]
Well after my incredible night with Viviana we decided that we were going to hit the beach. I took Viviana shopping in the late morning for a new bathing suit. We strolled the streets through Boca Grande and I caught quite a few eyes watching us as we walked the streets. Most of the local ¨good?girls are always intruqued when they see Americans with girls shopping. It is a great ego boost and a great way to make that girl that is with you really appreciate what she has. Well after we bought the bathing suit we headed back to the condo. We we got there Viviana was going to show me what she has that all thoses girls looking didn´t have. WOW. I would highly reccomend any jelous Colombian women in bed (as long as you arn´t the one who made them jelous). This was a whole new girl. Viviana is sweet and elegent and shows in the beedroom. But this time she was a little bit nasty and I really liked it. Well so much for the beach we ended up spending the whole afternoon in the bedrrom.
Well that night Dave, Viviana, and I decided to have dinner at Santo Domingo Square in the Old City. SDS is a area in the old city thta has restuarnats, cafes, and performers. It is a great place to sit and watch people. There are different street performers about every 30 miniutes that perform for tips. They are also girls seeling flowers and guys sell pictures of you and your someone special. It is completely romantic. I would highly recommend taking a girl here for the total experience. After dinner at Paco´s we had a couple of cappachinos in the sqaure and enjoyed the talent. As far as mongering goes, there are always plenty of beautiful women roaming the streets of the old city during the night. Some are working girls and some are regular girls alll looking for the ¨someone special¨for the night. HA HA HA . Well after SDS we decided to walk to city and head toward Tu Candilla Disco. Walking the city is a really different experience. You really get the feeling of what a cityin the old country looks like. The only problem is the young kids that will come up to you and beg you for money. This is more depressing then annoying. After the walk we got to Tu Candilla. It is located near the big clock tower. Now I had heard about this place from other mongers, but didn´t know what to expect. The place is located upstairs and is very small. It is not really a disco, but more like a small bar. It has a mixture of couples and ¨single¨girls. It was fairly early (10:30) and there were about a dozen girls there. The quality was not as good as La Dolce Vita, but the girls seemed different. They seemed more like reugular girls. The were dressed more conservative and were a bit more shy. After about an hour there we headed to La Equerquilla (sp?) Disco. This is located in Boca Grande. When we got there they had a $5000 peso cover charge. Some of the more popular regular discos have cover chargers on the weekend. This place is HUGE. They have a dance floor in the middle and a bar at the far end with tables everywhere. It was Saturday night and the place was packed with locals. Usually Friday and Saturday nights have a ton of locals and the good discos. From what I have heard this place has quite a few working girls there the rest of the week. I will confirm this later in the week. For our last stop we headed to La Dolce Vita. I was the only guy there that walked in with a girl and boy did I get a few looks from the girls. Even though this place is more of a ¨working¨bar, it is very comfortable to just hang out drink and watch the scenery. A lot of ¨date?girls would be uncomfortable here, but Viviana is great about that. She has no problem letting me look at the ¨merchandise¨as long as I don´t buy. We ended pounding a bottle of rum and staying until close. Total again there were about 30 girls there when we got there. At the end of the night there were easily 12 - 15 girls that left alone and would have gladly paid for 5 or 6 of them. This place needs Americans bad. Guys.... the country is full of Italians who are cheap here (very dishearting to me being a Italian American myself), a few Germans who seem to look more then purchase, and locals. It is amazing how many of these girls just love you if you are American. We are the ¨savior¨here. Most american that come here come to have a good time and the girls know that. This is something that we need to take advantage of now. Well enough of that. After La Dolce Vita, Viviana and I headed back to the condo for another night of pure pleasure. Sorry no photos of this night (I forgot my camera), but I will have plenty more in the next two weeks.
[u]Day 5[/u]
Sunday. Sunday is pretty dead here. The best bet by far is to head to the beach for the day. The beach is loaded with locals that come from all over. You can find all sorts of girls here. After a very long days and night Viviana and I decided to lock ourselves in my room for the day and watch DVD´s. Dave headed to the beach with the two other TSM guys in town. About 3:00 I decieded to head down to Riquisimo for some grub. While I was waiting Dave walked up with ¨Robhay¨who had made the trip over from Barranquilla. Well any of you who read his post here of his first day in Barranquilla probably thought that he headed bach to the states. Well it turned out that he had the time of his life in Barranquilla. Almost the same thing as my first day ever in Cartagena. We talked a bit and he came up to the condo for a while. He had meet a girl in Barranquilla and was really into her, but I will let him post about that. After he left I locked myself in my room again with Viviana for some TLC. Pretty boring days post wise... , but very enjoyable for me.
[u]Day 6[/u]
I decided to take it easy again today as the long nights were starting to catch up. Being here for three weeks you really have to pace yourself. Dave, Viviana, and I headed out in the late morning to exchange money and get some breakfast. We went to Lloyds bank to exchange money. They give the best rate here, but it take for ever. You have to hve your passport with out an fill out a million forms. Unless you are exchanging a lot of money I would suggest using the exchange house iit takes about 5 miniutes. I was in Lloys for about a half hour. The difference in exchange is about $2.00 per hundred. After this we headed to Crepes & Waffles. When we got there we found that they did not open until 12:00. Breakfast is not very big in Cartagena and the best place to find it is the nice hotels (Almirante and Hilton). After we finnaly found a little whole in the wall for breakfast we headed back to the condo. We were moving today from Eddys condo (801) to Bruces Condo (802). What a difference. Bruce´s condo is twice as much as Eddys per night , but is incredible. It is easily the nicest I have seen here. I has an incredible ocean view with a complete glass window wall. There are three bedrooms (one is Bruces private and not availble for rent), three bathrooms, four TV´s, a DVD player, all new appliances, a washer & dryer, and the best HOT water I have found here. Now I am normally not into ¨touting¨another person place, but if you number one goal is comfort and not price this is the place to stay. After moving our stuff it was about 2:00. Viviana and I decided to take a shower and head to the ¨mall? Well after the shower and a little ¨fun? we headed out about 3:30. I posted before about the ¨mall¨here, which is more like an open shoppin area then a mall in the states. Again there were a ton of women here. I decided that I wanted to flirt a little so I sent Viviana here way and I went my way. I was very curious to see if theses girls were approachable. They were, I was able to strike up quite a few conversations (with bad spanish) and I got two phone numbers. I also had a very interesting experience of a girl in a women sotre modeling underware for me. After about an hour and a half, I meet back up with Viviana and headed back to the condo. That might we decide to try CIN-CIN Italian resturant. The food was good and the prices were very cheap. After dinner Viviana and I decided to stay in since it would be our last night together for a week or so. Viviana is heading to Barranquilla a week or so ahead of me to spend time with her little girl. It sounds like my posts will start to get a little more interesting. HA HA HA
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WHAT I HAVE LEARNED my pre trip knowledge is stay away from the beach touts dont pay over 40 bucks all night, but with the peso almost3000-1 is 40 bucks still fair or lower don,t want to make this costa rica .i have learned dont OVER pay I will be there feb 25 any pointers please post if i start singing i wish they could all be columbian girls then you guys better get down here
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Viviana is heading to Barranquilla a week or so ahead of me to spend time with her little girl. It sounds like my posts will start to get a little more interesting. HA HA HA
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Nice posts. Keep them coming. Cartagena is really a beautiful place. Hope you make it to the film festival. It's starts on Feb. 28th and goes on for a week. There are lots of wild parties. The best ones are outdoors in the plazas of the old city, such as Santo Domingo.
You can check out the local talent at the festival. If that doesn't work out there is always LDV and Manila House.
Be careful walking around late at night around Escollera in Bocagrande. Some of those kids on the street will rob you if they see an opportunity.
Great report, Mav! Please keep them coming!
Day 7
I spent the morning in my room with Viviana saying ¨goodbye¨. After we had lunch she headed back to Barranquilla about 1:00 and I started on the prow. I headed to the beach and it was completely dead. Tony wasn´t even there and that is amazing. Next I decided to take a walk through Boca Grande, on my way back I ran into Tony. He gave me a big sob story about how dead the beach was and how he didn´t have any money for food. Then of course he tried to ¨borrow¨money, I told him no chance but I would let him go find a girl and he could earn that way. He agreed and told me he would be back in 30 miniutes. I headed up to the condo and realaxed a little.
About 45 miniutes later Tony showed up with two girls. The first one was one he had brought to the beach the my second day here and the other one was a girl I had not seen. We sat around a little a had a couple of beers and I told tony that I would take the new one. I litterally had to kick himm out of the condo and send him on his way. Tony is not a bad guy, but you have to be forceful with him or he will eat you alive. Nini, 18 and I went down to my room.We negoriated 60,000 pesos($20.00) for one hour. After a quick shower she started to give me a massage. She seemed very timid and shy. I asked her if there was anything wrong and she said no, she was new at this. Well I took that as a good sign and decided to be very gentle. We had a very nice hour and a half session with two completions.Next it was on to the photos. She loved the camera and let me take a dozen different shots.(I will post these later, if you guys don´t want me to post all 12 of them let me know). After she said that she really liked me a wanted to see me again. I am not planning on having any repeaat sessions this week, but got her name and number just in case. I sent her on her way and took a afternoon nap to recharge my battery.
That night Dave and I headed to San Diego Plaza in the old city for dinner. We went to a wonderful Italian resturant called Fellini. I highly reccomend this place. It is expensive in Colombiam terms, but is truely authentic. The chef waited on us himself and told us his specialties. After dinner we talked with a fellow American working there (conversation under general topics in Colombia forum.) We had a couple botlles of wine adn decided to head to La Dolce Vita around 11:00. I was pretty mellow from my afternoon session and was not sure if I was going to take anyone back with me. Dave headed back to the condo about 12:00 and I started some heavy drinking. I meet some Italians in town that worked for Versace and spoke English. They invited me to join them and I accepted. Aorund 1:00 I started to get frisky and called over Maria, 19. SHe was a solid 8 from Cali with a beautiful body. We agreed on 100,000 pesos($35.00) until the morning. I made sure that she knew about my bad experience before and understood that I wanted her for the whole night. Around 2:00 we headed back to the condo. I had a ton to drink and started to worry a little about performing, but she took her time and made sure this was not a problem. She was great. I only wish that I would have cooled it a little on the drinking so I could have enjoyed her over and over. After a wondrful hour session I passed out and that was it. I was so out of it I didn´t even take any photos. Oh well maybe I break the no repeat rule with this one and get photos the next time.
I will post the photos of Nini in the morning.
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Day 8
Woke up in the morning and sent my chica from the night before on her way. I was really feeling like shit (bad hangover), so I decided to take it easy in the afternoon and get ready for the night. I orderd in myself
a pizza from Pizza Hut and watched a couple of DVD´s. About 4:00 I started to get a little dose of cabin fever, so I decided to head to the internet cafe. while I was there I overhead another American and went over a introduced myself. Randy is from Colorado and left Costa Rica and decided to come to Cartagena for 6 weeks. Spoke with him for a while and heard some interesting stories. He is alone and does not speak much Spanish, so I invited him to dinner with Dave and myself.
Randy, Dave , and I headed to Carbon de Pala in th old city for dinner. This is the place I wrote about before that has great beef. The have a HUGE filet for 24,000($8.00) that is awesome. After dinner we decided to head over to Tu Candella an La Garita. We got to Tu Candella about 11:00 and thing were just starting to pick up. Within 30 miniutes the place was jammed. This place is very small and is mostly ¨good¨girls not pros. There was a group of six girls next to us that were really ¨nice¨. Dave headed home about 11:30 and Randy and I decided to stay and work the room a little. I the group next to us I noticed an incredible chica that as absolutly beautiful. I was having a hard time catching her eye so I sent over the Camera girl to ask her if it was ok for me to get a picture with her. She said no problem and came over. I talked to her for a few miniutes and found out that she had a boyfriend and believe it or not she was loyal to him. Of course all this did was turn me on more, but I figured taht it wasn´t going anywhere so I moved on. At about midnight Randy and I decided that we weren´t in the mood to ¨work¨regular girls so we headed down to La Garita. La Garita was dead with only a few girls inside. I believe that this place is a Friday or Saturday stop. After that we decided to head to old reliable La Dolce Vita. There was the typical 25 - 30 girls there and very few customers. When I walked in I saw a girl that I had been eying for awile and sat and talked with her. She said that she was waiting for a guy to return from earlier so we decided to meet up Friday or Saturday. Randy and I sat at the bar and scouped the room. A girls that I had seen from a couple of nights before caught my eye and gave me a big smile. With a bg smile back she headed over to talk. She is not my typical type ( I like them very small and pettite), but there was something about her. It may have beed her large rack or the fact that she couple give little jabs as well as recieve them. WE had a couple of drinks and started to break the ice. Meanwhile Randy was talking with a girl he had the night before. Aldo came over and I asked him how my girl was (Rosario 25, from Barranquilla). He is very honest with the customers and will tell you what people had said about different girls. He told me the reports on Rosario were great and that some people claim she gives the best service. I was really starting to get intrigued. When Rosario heard us talking she asked Aldo what we were talking about and he told her. Her response sealed the deal for me. She told Aldo that tomorrow morning I would know she was the best and that I would tell Aldo personally. I love a girl with confidence. We negotiated 120,000 pesos for the night, but she wanted to leave at 6:00 in the morning. I tried to get her to agree to 8:00, but then I figured who cares I am goin to be dead anyways. Randy took the girl from the night before and we headed to his Condo to party a little before heading for the bedroom. Randy rented a HUGE penthouse condo, that is not narly a nice as Bruces, but is very adaquete for $28.00 a night. When we got to his place e broke out the rum and started to dance and have a really great time.Rosario was amazing, she was incredible erotic, affectionate, and a total blast. At about 3:30 I decided that I had been teased enough and took Rosario back to my condo. Randys girl (name -? , 27 from medellin was really starting to get trashed and was ready to hit the hay). When we got to my room Rosario headed for the shower while I got ready in the room. When she came out she took CONTROL. This girl was incredible. She completely wore me out. Her oral skills were second to none. We really meshed well together in the bedroom and were really starting to like eacj other. We spent two solid hours of straight HEAT. Needledd to say she never left at 6:00. In fact when I woke up about 8:30 we went for round two. WOW is all I can say. She was right , she was the best i had here and I will tell Aldo tonight. After round two we spent the morning and early afternoon together until 1:30. What a night. Pictures to follow.Day 11
Day 11
Well my ¨virgin¨Ha Ha left at 9:30(two and a halk hours late) after a quick morning session and I decided to hit the streets. Dave an I headed to the old city to pick up a few gifts for back home. One great non mongering thing here is the character and history of the old city. After spending most of the morning and early afternoon there we headed to Crepes an Waffles for a late lunch. This place is great, the food was great and the women that eat there on the weekend are incredible. We saw a group of five that were amazing, but they also had the wicked ***** of tyh west attitude. My money was on them working in COsta Rica or Panama. They all had huge racks, small waists, and big egos. I also saw the girl of my ¨dreams¨, she was a regular girl that was eating with here mother and father. I gave her some nices looks and she gave me a big smile. I could tell that her father was not pleased with my interest, but oh well. I did not have the gumption to go up to there a table and ask for her number and I will probably regreat that for a while. After lunch we headed to the pharmacy for some little blue miracles. I have not need anything up to this point , but I felt that I would need a little boost pretty soon. The are able to sell the generic equivilant here for only $3.50 per 50mg pill. Next I headed back to the condo to meet Headhunter who was coming in at 5:15.
When Headhunter arrived I showed him where his condo was and gave him a quick tour of mine. I asked him when he wanted to head out and he said he was ready now(you got to love it). We decided to meet up with Randy at 7:00 at El Pandora. Randy was at El Pandora waiting for us with his girl for the night Rosa. We had a couple of capachinos and headed to Santo Domingo Plaza for dinner. The plaza was pretty busy but lacking the single female quoto. After dinner we decide to head to Tu Candella and La Garita. Both places were pretty dead at 11:00. We hung around at La Garita until about 11.30 , then Headdunter and I decided to head to La Dolce Vita. I was going to make sure that he did not have a bad first night in Cartagena like I did my first trip. When we were leaving La Garita, the bartender came running out and told me that my new regular girl , Rosario was going to be there later, I told him to tell her I went to La Dolce Vita and we left. When we got to La Dolce Vita it was kind of slow. There were about 20 girls there but a few lookers. Headhunter saw one that intrigued him a he headed in for the kill. In the mean time I wasn´t really interested in anything I saw. Just as I was thing of bolting to look for my sex slave I turned around and there she was. Rosario had tracked me down and was ready for more. I had wanted to try something new but also could not get away form the great sex, it is like crack. I headed over to see how headhunter was doing. After taking to his girl for a while he had decided that she was a ¨*****¨and had problem written all over her. He pulled away and scouted the room for another victim. This time he found a very attractive 20 year old from Barranquilla, Valentina. We were interested in all heading cback to La gartita for a little parting before heading back to the condo. We sent Rosario in to feel out Valentina to make sure she was going to be game. She was and we headed out. When we got back to La Garita the place was jammed. There were about 20 girls there and some real lookers. About now I was upset that I didn´t give this place more time earlier. We meet up with Randy who was still there and had polished off a full bottle of Tequilla with his girl. We all strted to ¨loosen¨ up at have a good. Next thing I knew Rosario was up on the bar with Randys girl showing everyone how she could move. About this time I remembered why I had spent a lot of time with her. We closed La Garita and headed to Randys condo. All six of us preceeded to drink more , which was probably not a good idea. Headhunter couldn´t wait any longer and headed to the other bedroom with Valentina. I proceeded to have a unnecessary long conversation with Rosario. At about 4:00 hHeadhunter came out and Rosario and I headed to my condo. When we got there were jumped right into some hot and heavy ¨make-up¨sex. Now I hate to have to have ¨make-up¨sex when I am on vacation, but this may have been worth it. The worst part of the evening was that I had forgot my camera. This will never happen again. More to come soon......
Day 12
Started the day off with my usual morning session with Rosario and sent her on her way at 12:30. headhunter and I decided to hit the beach since it is really the only thing going on Sunday. We ended up hading to the beach around 2:00pm. The place was packed for so late in the afternoon. Eddy joined us and brought three regular girls with him. One of the girls was really cute , but I did not have the time to put in to make it worth my while. We saw a lot to look at and really enjoyed socializing with all the girls. Around 5:00 we decided to talk to Tony and see what kind of girls he could come up with for some afternoon fun. The picking were kind of slim this late in the day and her brought over the girl I had earlier in the week and her friend. Headhunter liked her friend so I decided to take another afternoon shot at the one I had earlier. We negotiated the usual 60,000 pesos for one hour and headed out. I headed up to the condo and proceed to fullfill my needs. The afternoon girls here are nothing like the evening girls. The total purpose of them is to get you to the evening. For $20.00 the session is pretty quick and robotic, but well worth it.
That evening we decided to have a quick dinner at Riquisimo and take a tour of the casa´s. Headhunter, randy, Dave and I headed to Manilla House as our first stop. Thee were only 5 or 6 girls there and only one was anything worth looking at. After having two beers each we headed for stop number two. Stp two was Casa Del Marino, I never made it here on my last trip and now I know why. The place is very big, but very dark and the quality is terrible. The girls need the dark light to hide there large boddies. We didn´t even finish our beers and headed to The International Club. There were about 25 girls here, but again the quality was pretty bad. Randy was looking for a specific girl but she was knowwhere to be found. All in all I have to say that this place SUCKS. I have been there three times now and have never seen any quality. The next stop was The Pleyboy Club. The quality of the women here was much better. The girls also seemed to much more interested in getting you interested. The problem here is the price. The ¨salida¨alone is 120,000 pesos ($40.00), this is the price that you can get any La Dolce Vita girl for the night. The girls price for the night is 180,000 pesos for a total of 300,000 pesos ($100.00), which is just not worth it. After our beer here we decided to stop messing around and head for La Dolce Vita. I was really starting to feel like shit about right now. 12 straight days of 3 or 4 hours of sleep was starting to catch up. When we got there Randy saw a girl he had a couple of other times and decided to take her. Headhunter found Tatiana, 23 (pretty damn hot)and decided to take a a shot at her. I was going to actually take the night off and rest , but Rosario was there and said she would come home with me and take care of me for FREE. Being a smart man there was no way that I was goin to turn this down. Randy, his girl, Rosario, and I headed out and got a late dinner and Riquisimo and decided to head back to the condo. I was really feeling like garbage, but was feeling much beter with Rosario there. We ended up having a little bit of fun and falling a sleep at 1:00. Headhunter seemed to have a really good time, but he will tell you all about that in his post. I will give you a sneak peak and tell you that you will not ant to miss the photos from Day 13.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by *******
Keep it coming.
Tony el tout is in every Cartagena post. The guy is a legend.
The thing about Cartagena is that its a tourist place, where Colombian girls go to have a good time and make some money, so that equals semi-pro.
Very few girls from Cartagena are pros; hence your experience with the girl in Candela who said she was with her boyfriend. It's probably true. Check out Sr. Babilla in the centro near the Convention Center.
There it is all locals and non-pros. If you have success there let me know.
hey guys keep them cuming the reports and girls ha !!!hey i will be there wed are you guys gonna be there i am staying at eddys place soy solo
[QUOTE]Originally posted by jamesbond69
[Check out Sr. Babilla in the centro near the Convention Center.
There it is all locals and non-pros. If you have success there let me know. [/i][/QUOTE]Never had even a sniff of success at Mr. Babilla's. Others have though :-(( Lovely girls though, least at the weekend. Can be dead midweek.
La Escollera looks a better bet. (I was always there accompanied, so never tried it out). (Don't think the mgmt let the pros in unaccompanied though: there's always a group hanging round outside looking for someone to pay for 'em to get in.) Though sometimes that's empty too. Or "sellado". Guess they ain't paying their taxes.
And do watch out for those kids. In an absent-minded moment I had the young lady on my shoulders, and one tried to pinch my camera. And failed. I ain't *that* stupid. I went for him and he drew a fork on me. That's right, a fork.... Admittedly it had its middle prongs bent back so I suspect it might have done some damage, but I didn't rate it. Had the little f*cker on the floor 5 seconds later. Back on the street the following day of course.
I´m here in Cartagena with Mav. The chicas here are incredible.
Day 1: Arrived in CTG Saturday evening. Immediately headed to La Dolce Vita with Mav. Left with Valentina. Very cute and very sweet. She said she would stay with me until 4AM but wound up staying until 1PM the next day. Definitely got off to a good start.
Day 2: (Sunday afternoon diversion) Tatiana from the beach--one of Tony´s girls. Later that day, checked out the Casas but they were slow on Sunday night, so wound up back at La Dolce Vita which is quickly becoming from favorite place. Left with Angie. Another solid performer.
Day 3: (pending...) Hey, I just woke up!
I have to thank Mav for talking me into coming here to CTG. I´ve been talking about Colombia for a long time, and he really kicked me in the ass to buy a plane ticket and come here. I absolutely hate traveling but after my first night I already knew it was worth it.
Over and out, HH
hey guys i am here itis hot and the touts evan follow you to the banos where can i find yall
pesos 2800 -01 usd i speak some spanish or bring a translater bookok day 1 went to the beach picked up a chica 40,000 pesos from tony skinny for 1 hour later mi casa went to manill house i met lilyanna about 5-5 125 lbs nice rack bbbj and reg sex about 100,00 on site but qualiy is real good here colombinas like to snuggle and shit after sex .she wanted to meet later no way then went to a place on the main drag a rip off but got a number from lizbeth we will meet thursday .this place about 120000 or higher on site beer is to hi here then didnt have a chica here. last but not forgotton ldv is la dolce vita i think it is a disco meeting place for working girls beer about 5000 pesos the local beer is good so i danced some ofthe girls act like they never seen a gringo dance to latino music the girls do not approach you or make eye contact about 130 i felt like making a move to early to know who. i met patrica and bought a drink talked some aranged 90,000 pesos till 5 so off we went right across the street to a cheesy apt for 25 usa haffta leave here in the morning so it is thursday tony calls me wakes me up i am pissed i am gonna kick his ass so i go to hotel international 50,000 pesos big mistake i call lizabeth we meet at kokiricos at 11 we walk around and go back to my hotel oops not chica freindly so we got a cab and he took us o casa grande on the beach 60,000 pesos but no one speaks ingles me and this girl have some of the best sex i ever had till 3 she only charged 60,000 till 4 so we get something to eat felt the gfe thing with her we kissed and she left would see each other before i leave ok took a nap and now it is night my cab driver picked me up and we hit the other houses prices about 110 pesos at the place said fuck that we went to eat and he dropped me off at babillas it was dead but got to drunk and that is not good at 1 went to ldv still buzzing i met a fellow poster name we can call him bill so bill and i head to ldv la dolce vita we talked and started eyeing some girls so he leaves at 2 i am better looking ha but has game ha i struck out no one was into 90,000 pesos so i started walking home stupidoto and this skinny street girl said 30000 pesos since i was drunk what the hey a 100 lbs soaking wet checked her id it said 20 off we go i am a big guy did not want to hurt this girl remember i have 2 hotel rooms so i go to intrnational the night guy said no off to casa grande so after 20 min with her she said no mas and tightend her legs up my body exploded like a m-80 ears poped like 16 years again first nut ha get the picyure she actualy bled so felt kinda bad but felt like a stud to gave her money for cab fare and she left
[QUOTE]Originally posted by jamesbond69
Tony el tout is in every Cartagena post. The guy is a legend. [/QUOTE]Where can one find Tony?
day 3 in cart amigo find tony but why in front of hotel velves near la dolce vita iam feeling allthe crazy sex need to slow down take a tour of th city i meet acool guy ingles good he is a local very mellow looks like mike tyson offers his tour services marcos310-6544916 so he shows me arond rest of old town introduce me to some college girls very fine about 50000 not hookers but need some extra money .we hung around old town got their numbers and rolled out had a date with a local gir at 8 went back to boca grande struck out this girl went to see my amigo cab driver i wanted to go to manilla he told me about navigater near play pen this place is cheap that is when i see alexandria blonde latina big teetes we arrange 80000 for 1 hour on site she made me relax so much felt the gfe thing with her but the night is young back to babilas met a girl from bogata we danced real hot woul this be the free pussy have been looking for she started kissing an thank god she spoke ingles we go back to casa grande and had sex with her she wanted money to gave her 50000 and she rolled out getting tired bed time
there are several casas rep001tered around cartagena. the quality of the girls varies widely.
"pleyboy" - some cute girls here, but too goddamn expensive. the bar-fine is 120,000 and the girls ask for 180,000. 300,000 pesos is just ridiculous, especially when who consider that you can get equally cute girls from la dolce vita for 1/3 of that.
"las navigantes" - this place caters to sailors. the bar-fine is 60,000 and the girls are cheaper and a little older. nothing to my liking, but i negotiated a deal for another gringo named dave who spoke no spanish. he gave 2 girls 100,000 pesos each. the deal was for them to perform a lezzie show for us to photgraph, then they would both have sex with him, and spend the night with him. the girls really got into performing for us, licking each other's pussies and assholes. we took our photos then left dave alone. i was afraid he might have a heart attack, but the next morning he had a big grin on his face.
"manila house" - this place is a more relaxed atmosphere. this is probably my favorite. i think the salida is 60,000.
"noches de america" - i know why they call this place "american nights"--all the girls are fat are the beers are expensive! no fucking thanks! ran out of there after 2 minutes!
"manuecas" - all the girls were kind of thick and wearing just bras and g-strings. the problem was it is so fucking dark in there you can't see the girls. for all i know they may have been transsexuals. take a flashlight if you go there!
there are others too but i can't remember the names. all in all, i prefer to pick up the girls from "la dolce vita" or "la garita." at these places there is no bar-fine, you just negotiate directly with the girl.
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day 4 in cart last day totaled about 10 chicas 3 days no mas i thought so i spend day at beach then to las negatintor near pley boy or whatever see a new chic there 80.000 pesos then head to babillas to dance that is when i see the big clock tower some how that reminds me of a place i saw on the net la gargatia and la candelierea so i walk over there and want to dance i am seduced by this short but darkskin chica vivanna no way she is a pro i buy drinks and dance kissing touching etc we head to my place casa grande and have some great sex then when she wants to leaves at 4 with no english skills she says 100.ooo pesos i start to flip but then i notice she has red hair streaked on some other boards they have pics then i relize this is the girl i beat my dick over a few times in the states so what the fuck a get to fuck a girl i drooled over on the net. broke tired and crazy i head to baq
Hi Vagringo,
Viviana is well-known and hangs out at places like La Garita and ocasionally, La Dolce Vita. She is very nice and has huge tits, though. I've never been with her but I know many who have taken her for a ride and she is supposed to be fantastic in the sack.
yes top 2 in cart seduced me and it was the gfe thing i liked very good and she knows it
forgot i have vivanna number but her ingles is bad must have some spanglish skills 310652320 or e-mai viviana0402@yahoo she seems to know she is well known on the forums i do have a pic of her and me if it comes out i can send it --top 2 for me in cart hangs out at lagargitoa chica freindley hotel casa grande 60 pesos
I was in Fortaleza, Brazil just 2 months ago and getting an itch to take another mongering trip to South America. I need help of you sexperts!!!!
I have a few free tickets from different airlines that i can use to travel to South America (frequent flyer miles).
I can not make up my mind b/w Fortaleza and Cartgena. Any ideas there?? pros and cons???
Besides, the prices seem to be the same.
I had a GF from Cali, Colombia to whom I almost got married, Therefore, I know their culture too. I have been to Cali once.
Thanks to all of you.
I'll be in Cartagena for two weeks staying at the Almirante Hotel. Are there any action near that hotel? Thanks.
For my money the Almirante is the second-best hotel in the city. That would be secod-best only to the spectacular Santa Clara. Only the pool(s) at the Hilton are better.
Closest action to the hotel I guess would be at the thatched bar on the sea road, La Escollera. But don't sweat it, the city centre's only about 5 - 10 mins away by taxi, so if nothing there takes your fancy jump in a cab.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ho_chaser
[i]I'll be in Cartagena for two weeks staying at the Almirante Hotel. Are there any action near that hotel? Thanks. [/i][/QUOTE]
AddictedtoWomen, thanks for the tip, but what is going on at the La Escollera? I am sure I'll hit all the good ones in the city center also, but it is nice and convenient to be able to pick up at a nearby establishment when one doesn't feel like taking a taxi anywhere.
Does La Escollera have quality chicas? How much are the rates if I may ask. Lastly, is it walking distance from the Almirante Hotel?Again, thanks for your quick response, amigo.
Its rather variable. Take a look back in the forum, its been mentioned a few times (most recently by me 02-22-03).
Left out of the A, one block to the sea road, left about 3 blocks. Huge open sided two story construction with a thatched roof. Sometimes its a carry in, other times the girls are inside. Other times its closed. YMMV. Considerably.
Welcome to Locombia.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ho_chaser
[i]AddictedtoWomen, thanks for the tip, but what is going on at the La Escollera? I am sure I'll hit all the good ones in the city center also, but it is nice and convenient to be able to pick up at a nearby establishment when one doesn't feel like taking a taxi anywhere.
Does La Escollera have quality chicas? How much are the rates if I may ask. Lastly, is it walking distance from the Almirante Hotel?Again, thanks for your quick response, amigo. [/i][/QUOTE]
Anybody knows if the Hotel Almirante is girl-friendly or not? Thanks. I'll be in Cartagena this Friday...will start chasing ho's once I get settled in.
If the hotel is not girl-friendly then I am gonna have to arrange something to facilitate my hobby elsewhere. Please advise...
when you get there you will see a millon guys selling you things including ocean front condos 25 bucks the hotel you seek info is exspensvive for my tastes 60 and up-- the most you should pay is 25 all you do is sleep and fuck there is also the casa granda about 20 bucks i brought a few there----------------------------- pay every thing in pesos
Well, I spent my first night (Good Friday) at Cartagena at the Almirante Hotel thinking where to pick up girls since La Dolce Vita and La Garita are both closed.
The cab driver ended up driving me to this dive called the Venus Club...about 20 minutes away from the Almirante...in some neighborhood...away from the Old City and everything else. According to him, it's the only place that's open due to Good Friday. I felt uncomfortable at first because there were no tourists in there--strictly local folks. I am glad I didn't get rolled, but then again, I am not a white gingo also. (-:
Anyway, there's about 15 chicas that work there... "okay" quality. I ended up picking up a 19 y.o. named Lucia (nice big tits). Took digital photos and will submit them to the WSG Photo gallery once my stay in Cartagena is finished. I believe I paid the gringo price for 180,000 to take her to the Almirante. I learned my lesson last night, but I was horny and had the cash to throw away...so what the fuck, I said!
The answer to my last question on Almirante being girl-friendly is a "yes". The hotel staff will check for ID's to verify the chica is 18 and older, and will require the guest to sign her in at the front desk...no problems! No extra room charges.
Tonight is the second night and I believe La Dolce Vita and La Garita is open. So, that's where I'll be at! Is La Garita located at the old city also?
LaGarita is in the old city just below Tu Candelas. I heard a rumor that it had closed permanently. There are several clubs in that same general area. Nothing happens until midnight. I had nice luck picking up chicas in the courtyard outside between 11:00 pm and midnight. The going rate is 70,000 to 100,000 COP for all night for hot chicas.
I believe that La Dolce Vita is in El Laguito. Any taxi driver should know it.
Also try the Pleyboy and the International.
Glad you're having fun!
Don't know what neighbourhood you ended up in, but you might want to take a bit of care venturing out of the main city areas... last time I was there, even with a Colombian girlfriend, we were BOTH advised not to by locals, taxi drivers, hotel staff, you name it.
If you had just got rolled, you would have been lucky. Kidnap, murder, drugging (nothing you want, believe me) are par for the course.
Enjoy... but come home safe, eh?
(180k? You made *someone's* day! Bet it wasn't the girl's though)
Hope we'll see those fotos soon!
Well, I finally got to see the famous La Dolce Vita. It's somewhat close to the Almirante. Anyways, I picked up a 26 y.o. babe with huge tits named Camilla for 120,000. She said her tits are natural, but when I felt them they were somewhat kinda hard at the bottom parts, but otherwise soft on most of the areas...telling me that they are good quality transplants...no scarring that I can detect. She provided good service, not in a hurry to finish and, although my spanglish was kinda bad, we were able to conversate quite a bit, and took pictures as well.
I am here not on an official vacation, but work. So, although tomorrow is my first work day, I'll try to hit LDV again tonite and see if I can get a chica named, Natale for an early session.
Happy Easter to my fellow mongers! Keep on having fun!
My first night back in CTG wasn´t so great. I went to LDV and there were only a few mediocre chicas. I then headed to La Escollera. I had never been there before but I saw it mentioned on this board. No chicas there either. I later found out that there was a big concert last night and that´s why all the whoring venues were dead. I guess the entire week preceding Easter, Santa Semana, is dead mongering-wise. I am hoping it will pick up again now that it´s over.
After La Escollera, I headed back to LDV and picked up Carolina, 20 years old. Not great looking, but the best thing I saw on the slow night. I got her back to my apartment then I realized where I recognized her from--she was one of Tony´s beach girls when I was here in Feb! That kind of turned me off so the session was only mediocre. Hopefully I will do better tonight.
Thanks for the updates, guys! Keep 'em coming. I have a couple of months until I return so I'm living vicariously through you guys...
Headhunter, hey man, where the heck do I find this guy, Tony? What part of the beach? As mentioned before, I am staying at the Almirante and that strip of the beach goes a long ways...What does he look like? Thanks in advance for the info.
Ho-chaser,
Tony can be found every day on the beach in front of Las Velas hotel. Just walk around and he will probably find you! He is dark-complexioned and speaks good English.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Headhunter2000
[i]Ho-chaser,
Tony can be found every day on the beach in front of Las Velas hotel. Just walk around and he will probably find you! He is dark-complexioned and speaks good English. [/i][/QUOTE]
Trust me, you don't want to get involved with Tony or guys like that in Cartagena that survive by hustling the tourists on the beach.
All you have to do is go to to La Dolce Vita or Manila or Escorella.
Also....I was attacked in Bocagrande near Escorella at about 3am by some of the kids around there. They came behind me, pushed me to the ground and went through my pockets.
I didn't have much money on me but they put an arm around my throat and as a result I lost my voice for a few weeks, because they damaged my vocal chords.
It wasn't really violent - they didn't have guns or knives or anything like that- but my point is that as a gringo you have to be careful walking around alone at night in that area.. These little kids that you see on the street and probably older kids regard you as a mark and will mug you if they see an opportunity. You can't depend on the police to keep an eye on the area.
That said, I do think Cartagena is a great place, to monger and just to hang out but you have to be careful. Like Rio there is an element of danger.
Thanks for the heads up guys! Due to the nature of my duties, I have traveled extensively around the world...lately both Eastern and Western Europe and had also punted in those areas, and I am an advocate on personal "force protection" issues; I always watch my back, although sometimes I force the envelope by going to bars like the Venus Club when I know I shouldn't. (LOL)
Indeed, your local knowledge and advises are greatly appreciated, especially in this forum.
Knowing that I had to go to work this morning, I showed up at the LDV early and immediately picked up Natale. She asked for 120,000 for 1.5 hours at my hotel. I didn't complain about her arrangements since I do need the sleep for work for the next day. This chica was kinda freaky; did a short truncated sexy strip dance and started to suck on my fingers...yeah! Then the disappointment: she refused to give me a BBBJ...covered. Nevertheless, it was a so-so session. Natale was kinda aggressive in bed...doing all the work, albeit all the moans and dirty talk sounded kinda fake. LOL To her credit, she looks fuckin' good, nice ass, cute face, and has an active jolly personality. She informed me that she works at the LDV every night, and seems to be there early (based on the two times I was there).
Next project is the La Garita. Based on past reports, I gather this establishment is located in the old city? I'll try to hit it tonight.
Next report pends...
[QUOTE]Originally posted by jamesbond69
[i]Also....I was attacked in Bocagrande near Escorella at about 3am by some of the kids around there. [/i][/QUOTE]
Same time, same place, same brats... Only mine had a *fork* :-) And I got him rather than vice-versa.
If I'd known they were regulars...
By the way the police will kick you off the beach if they see you there late at night. I guess I found out why.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by AddictedToWomen
[i]Same time, same place, same brats... Only mine had a *fork* :-) And I got him rather than vice-versa.
If I'd known they were regulars...
By the way the police will kick you off the beach if they see you there late at night. I guess I found out why. [/i][/QUOTE]
My God. You were on the BEACH at night in Bocagrande. Now that is REALLY dangerous and tempting fate.
I got mugged across from Escorella, near the main street San Martin....there was an area that was a little bit dark...and that's when they made there move and jumped me. I actually didn't expect it. I've been going to Cartagena for years and never had any problem in Bocagrande....but it's becoming a dangerous place, as the economy gets worse and worse each year.
I did a little better at LDV last night. I met ´Viviana.´ I had never seen her before but recognized her from a pic posted on WSA. She has been positively reviewed there as well as here on WSG so I decided to give her a try. I can now vouch that she is indeed very skilled sexually and generally fun to hang out with. After leaving LDV, we went to ´Tu Candela´with her friend ´Joanna´and another Gringo for a little dancing and drinking. Viviana used to be a regular at ´La Garita´but now that it is closed I suspect she will be at LDV most nights. I recognized a couple LDV girls at Tu Candela but I wouldn´t recommend going there alone and trying to score since most of the girls were already with guys. Viviana pissed me off a little bit by pressuring me for more money as she was leaving, but I suppose that is the nature of the beast when dealing with prostitutes--they always want more, more, more.
Headhunter, is La Garita permanently closed? Where is it located?
La Garita used to be downstairs from Tu Candela. My Spanish isn´t good enough to figure out exactly what happened, but it seems La Garita is permanently closed.
Thanks Headhunter. I guess I´ll just target LDV during the remainder of my time in Cartagena.
Well, last night I picked up a 23 y.o. named Rosario for 100,000 at the LDV. I could have picked up a lot more better looking chica, but there was something about her that made me chose her. Whatever it was, it was not worth it. This Rosario was a lame lay...didn´t even suck dick...oh well...neeexxxtt!
Will probably try again tonite. Same bat cave, same bat hour.
I stayed in LDV until closing time, and I didn´t realize that the place closes at 2:00 AM. Somehow, I thought everything closes here at 5 or 6 am...European style, but I guess not. I was able to meet Aldo and informed him that I was a WSG member. He also informed me that La Garita is indeed closed.
I got a 21 y.o. chica named Yenny (that´s her real name) from Medellin; I can´t seem to remember the name she uses at LDV. Anyway, she was pretty sweet...gives BBBJ´s and has a body/ass that I prefer. I am going out to a regualr disco tonight with a bunch of people, but I told Yenny to meet me at my hotel´s lobby at 2:00 am for another session. LOL.
Yenny (pronounced Jenny) also has a cousin who works at the LDV named, Angie. She´ll be my next ´project´. Interestingly, I ask Aldo about Viviana, and he seem not to know which one since according to him there a few Viviana´s who work in LDV. So, the hunt continues for the elusive Viviana.
hi --ho vivanna has red streaks in her long black hair with big tits and a sexy smile look at my posts late march i have her phone and e-mail posted the goin rate is 100--120 with her but she is best of the best a real pro
Yes, that is always a problem. There are only about 5 different female names in this whole Goddamned country, so when you ask for so-and-so, nobody knows which one you are talking about.
I took ´Angie´ home one night alone, and another night together with her cousin for a threesome. Angie is a great fuck, but she is also a hardcore drug user and will only stay with you one hour unless you don´t mind her indulging in a little blow in your apartment (or hotel). Of course, this may not be the same Angie you are refering to, who knows... The Angie I know is short, has long straight black hair, and big tits. I am not saying you should avoid her necessarily, I am just warning you of the baggage that comes with her. YMMV.
I took ´Olga,´18 years old, out of LDV the other night. She gives a really half-assed BBBJ but the straight fucking was good with her. She only likes to fuck once though, then she wants to go to sleep. I can´t see paying for an all-nighter if the girl is just going to sleep. Maybe I´m just hard to please, I don´t know...
Over and out, HH
Met headhunter last night at the LDV. I talked to Angie´s cousin, Yenny last night, and she informed me that Angie is ´booked´ throughout the week with some Italian guy...what a fucking hoard! Not to mention, he definitely needs to consider some variety in his punting lifestyle, LOL.
Headhunter, I came out empty-handed last night. Those girls rapidly dissipated as the night approached 2:00 AM....took me by surprise. That girl, Kelly, (the one we both priced) left too quickly before I can consummate the deal...oh well, I guess she didn´t need the dinero that bad. The other one at the bar was asking 200,000...too much.
I´ll hit LDV early tonight mainly because of work tomorrow. I am hoping that I´ll be just in and out so I can finish my ´business´ and get ready for a heavy workload at work on Monday. What I am really looking for is a chica who will do BBBJ´s with CIM like they do in Eastern Europe...love Russian girls, man! Anybody knows of any girls in LDV who meet these requirements?
Same bat cave, same bat channel at 10:30 PM .
BT
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These LDV girls that ask for ridiculous prices crack me up! The going rate has been 80,000-100,000. I don't even discuss prices with a chica before I leave the bar with her. In the morining, if she was good, I give her 100,000 CP, and nmediocre or less 80,000 CP. Also, if I take a chica out several days, a sliding scale is involved.
Tourism is down and it's a buyers market. I hope you guys laugh at these chicas who artificially inflate prices.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Zippy
[i]In the morining, if she was good, I give her 100,000 CP, and mediocre or less 80,000 CP.[/i][/QUOTE]Zippy, that sounds fair to me, but have you ever had to drag a puta out by her hair? I almost had to last night...
I left with ´Camila,´26 years old, from Medellin. She was wearing a sexy outfit, and ´Ho_Chaser´ told me she was a good fuck, so I decided to give her a try. I prefer to do all the negotiating upfront, and we agreed on 100 kilo-COP for the night. Things went downhill from there...
We go to a disco called ´AfterParty.´ This place turned out to be different than the other discos I´ve been to in that it is open all night, there are a ton of gay guys there, and much open drug use. Camila sucked down about 10 beers in 30 minutes, which I got to pay for, of course.
Next, I get robbed by the taxi driver. I give him a 10k bill because that is the smallest thing I have, and he refuses to give me any change. Back at the apartment, Camila manages to consume every drop of alcohol in the place in about 3 minutes.
Finally, we get to the fucking and it was pretty good. She starts with some nice bareback deep-throating and ball-licking. Then we proceed to straight fucking. She has a huge clit, and is very orgasmic. On the downside, her ´chochita´smelled like maybe a mid-size sewer rat burrowed inside and died a few weeks ago, so definitely no pussy-eating on the menu. I manage to cum despite the stench, and things proceed from bad to worse.
She starts demanding 120 kilo-COP and refuses to leave. I´ve never struck a woman in my life, but I came damn close to slapping this burnt-out alcoholic cokehead. I yell ¨Cien! No mas! Intiendes?¨in her ear and she finally gets the point. Then she starts crying, telling me what a hard life it is being a prostitute. At this point, I really wanted to drag her out by her hair. Instead I just grab her by the arm and lead her out semi-forcifully. The shit I go through to get fucking laid...
If I sound a tad cynical, this is the second time I´ve had to throw an LDV cokehead out in the middle of the night. There are some nice girls there too, but they are lousy lays. And the good lays come with so much baggage and unwanted drama. Oh well, I´ll go back tonight and roll the dice again...
I *knew* there was reason I didn't like Medellin chicas! :-))
btw the taxi driver stunt is bau. It happens *so* often I've decided its probably sincere. If they ever have to go buy gas when you're in the back, check it out: they never put in very much. I suspect, given the fares, that its a hand-to-mouth existance for em.
And $3 aint so much. But on the other hand if you even suspect they're trying it on then make them come into the hotel with you and make change at reception. Or given them your room number and tell them to come back when they've got change. I've done both. Change has *never* suddenly materialised.
Went back to LDV last night. I´ve been there so many nights in a row now, I get the VIP treatment. Aldo, the Italian owner, shakes my hand and talks to me a few minutes when I get there.
I didn´t see Ho_Chaser, but I didn´t get there until midnight, so perhaps he had already found his companion for the night.
Picking were slim since it was Sunday. I left with ´Claudia,´23, from Cali. My first Caleña. Agreed to 100 kilo-COP which she later told me is the lowest she will go. She is getting ready to go to Costa Rica where she ¨can make $100 an hour¨ in her own words. This girl speaks very good English--the first one I have met here who does. She told me all she has to do is go to Bogota, pay $600 for a visa, then she will head to CR. It is a shame Colombia loses all it´s quality girls to CR and Panama. Claudia was the best overall I have had so far on this trip.
She has 2 kids but her body is in good shape--no C-section scars or stretchmarks on her stomach like so many of the girls. Nice soft skin and large sensitive nipples. She only does CBJ, but the straight fuck was the best I´ve had so far.
My mongering may be over now--my Barranquilla novia is coming to visit me and I´m not sure how long she is staying. Perhaps I will make it back to LDV for a few more rounds--we´ll see.
Yep, I was pretty much in and out...got a 21 y.o. named Dahian (Medellin)...big tits...no ass...CBJ...so-so robotic fuck....her pussy also stunk like a motherfucker...neeexxxt; still waiting for the famous Viviana to show up.
Headhunter, that's one of the reasons I just want a short time session with these ho's. Too much drama, too much baggage...no GFE for me. I can get the romance and the rest of that stuff with my esposa at home. For me, it is all business, LOL! Plus, I have so much valuable stuff in my hotel room...laptop, digital camera, etc.
I am trying to ask around about the possibility of a FS in local MP's if they even exist here in Cartagena, similar to the AMP's we have in the States. If none of these ho's will give me a BBBJ with CIM, then maybe I can just pursue this instead, LOL!
I have a light day at work tomorrow, so I can spend a little longer time at the LDV tonight. On second thought, there's this waitress at the Almirante who looks like Vanessa Williams! I am tempted to offer her 120,000 and make some 'real' dinero for a change, he, he, albeit I'll probably get slapped. Oh well...
Same bat cave, same bat channel, same bat hour.
Shit HeadHunter! What a fucking drag with that nutsy chica! I think you handled it well under the circumstances. I would have said "Cien o nada! Es tu eleccion!" And if she still was getting crazy, threaten to call la policia. Thank God you didn't pay her the extra 20,000 or she would keep pulling that stunt!
I guess I've been lucky with my choices (knock on wood since I return to Cartagena in late June!)...
HoChaser...I've looked around Cartagena for MP and have been unsuccessful at finding a decent one. I found a pretty good one in Cali but not Cartagena. If you find one, let me know!
Well, I got a break and got Angie last night (100,000 COP). Her real name is actually Kristina Mazo. I guess her Italian regular decided to take a break from her. Needless to say, I took advantage of this opportunity. Headhunter was right on...that chica can fuck like a duck. Good technique!
Unlike, Headhunter's experience, Angie did not pull the cocaine stunt with me. So, it was a pleasant experience for me last night. Even let me took some cool digital pictures.
I was hangin' around the sidewalk in front of the Almirante at around 7:20 PM last night and two streetwalkers just happened to walk by...one was black and the other one was your 'regular' brown-skinned chica with the biggest tits I've seen in my time here! Beatrice, the SW, was not pretty at all, but she wasn't coyote-ugly, either...but her huge titties were her best asset.
She was asking for 50,000...deal! All I wanted from her was some oral sex anyway. In my room, she asked if I have condoms, I said I wanted it bare-back...no problem for her. So, FINALLY, I got my first Colombian BBBJ with CIM, albiet from a SW rather than from someone from LDV.
One of my Colombian counterparts, is bringing an escort named, Isabell to the Almirante at 8:30 PM tonight. I'll see if she's good to go. I got three more nights in Cartagena; I plan to make all three nights memorable!
Two more nights and a wake up. I got 20 y.o. Kelly last night at the LDV. Kelly seems to be a nice girl, but a so-so lay...nothing to brag about.
The escort named Isabell never happened. Apparently, she has a 'manager' named Clara, and Isabell is also a college student of some sort. She calls me at the hotel, and through my translator, told me that she'll be an hour late because of school. I may be a little too spoiled, but with the state of their current economy and considering it's a buyer's market right now, I would think she'll do anything to earn that 120,000 that she's asking for. Nevertheless, I canceled the deal; it was just poor 'customer service' in my opinion.
The MP scene in Cartagena is a no-joy. Not even the locals here are aware of any. In fact, I was recommending to some of my local friends here to start considering that idea as a future business venture. They'll monopolize that service market for a time and earn good money, LOL. -Absolutely no competitions! They can start with 2-3 girls and expand from there...
Ho,
I was approached by two SW´s while walking along Cra. 2A in the same area you mentioned. But the two I saw appeared VERY young and I´m not a ¨lollipop and trenchcoat¨ kind of guy, so I passed. See ya at LDV.
I invited Yenny in my hotel for a quick afternoon session since I am enjoying my Colombian labor day off from work. Lately, I`ve been doing some reconaissance on the SW scene around the Almirante. So far, the quality is not good as the LDV scene, indeed beside for Beatrice, the big titty SW, I haven`t seen anything worth even a BBBJ session.
I am not sure if I`ll even swing by the LDV tonight since I`ve already gotten my `nut`for the day, but I am interested in doing some more surveying of the SW scene on a more later hour tonight. I`ve always been intriqued by SW`s. I only wish that I have my personal car here so I can pick èm up like I do in the States and get my regular BBBJ`s in some dark street corner some where---that represents a thrill for me!
If I ever get busted back home...that would be my m.o.
EXECUTIVE SUMMARY REPORT:
I am finishing my stay in Cartagena and I am submitting this report to summarize my time mongering in this beautiful city. Total days in Cartagena was 15 days. To date, I've fucked 8 different girls in LDV...some multiple times, one girl from the Venus Cub, and a straight oral only session from a SW. Indeed, it has been a very 'productive' two weeks in Cartagena.
I have verified that the Almirante Hotel is girl-friendly and that I paid an all-inclusive rate of $96.00 per day. The rate is within the published max lodging per diem rates.
Through Headhunter's keen attention to detail (and his astute negotiating skills), I was able to finally meet the 'famous' Viviana for 120,000 last night. So here is my 2 cents on Viviana:
Viviana's jolly and very friendly personality made up for her
lack of command of the English language. No wonder several
of our fellow punters enjoyed her services; she's definitely GFE
material for those who are desiring that type of treatment.
However, Viviana's hype did not match her performance in bed.
She did not give BBBJ's nor did she adequately gave a quality
CBJ. I would recommend Angie for a much better fuck and a
better all-around package althogether...good value for your
money! Also, Viviana was quick to ask for 'taxi money' after
our session; a definite no-no in 'customer service'.
All in all, it's my opinion that other than a GFE experience,
Viviana is not worth the hype that our fellow mongers had
given her. She is over-rated and average at best. I rate her
two stars out a posibble of five.
The SW scene around or near the Almirante Hotel is dismal and disappointing. I surveyed the area both in the afternoon and at night, and can safely state that other than for a cheaper rate (50,000 COP), you are better off spending your gringo budget at the LDV.
My quest for an American-style (or Asian-style) FS MP resulted in negative results. Thus, I would highly recommend to any business-oriented investors to seriously consider this venture in the near future. The financial possibilities stemming from this new niche market can be of enormous monetary gain and business success as one can quickly monopolize (zero competition) this service area...there is a demand for this service in Cartagena, especially from the Americans (and the Asian tourists as well).
Finally, I don't see myself coming back to Colombia in the near future, but from time to time, I will read some of your postings (just in case). I appreciate all your past reports, advises and the local knowledge that all of you had posted in this board. I, for one, had use those valuable data to successfully plan my nightly mongering activities for the last two weeks. Thank you.
Adios to all!!!
Ho_chaser...signing off
WOW
I ended up standing up Headhunter on this trip as I never got out of DR. From his report as well as ho chaser's, it sounds like things have gone down hill quite a bit. On our last trip in Feburary, Headhunter and I had nothing but good experiences. I had quite a few women on that trip and always got the bbbj.
Thanks for the updates, guys! Now how about those pics???
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My last night in Cartagena I decided to do something a little different, so I walked around and talked to the SW's, pimps, and coke dealers who come out late at night, along with the rats and cockroaches. My kind of people, heh heh.
The SW's in CTG range in age from about 15 to 50+. Most of them are too old, too young, or just plain too ugly to work in a club like La Dolce Vita. 'Danielle,' 20, was one exception I found though--she is easily on par with the LDV crew. So naturally I asked why she chose to work the street. She said she used to work LDV but it was boring just sitting there every night waiting for a guy to approach her. And what's more, she makes more money on the street. Less yield per capita times greater volume equals larger gross. *****nomics 101. I also found out that the SW's do get hassled by the Policia from time to time although I didn't witness this personally. The only thing the pigs were copping were a few Z's on this particular night.
Next I talked to a "candy man" with a used-car salesman grin and an admirable command of the English language. He quoted me US$20 for 1 gram of fine Colombian cocaine. He even offered me a free trial sample. Mighty white of him, no? Now I just happen to know that a gram of quality blow in my hometown of Orlando sells for $100. 500% markup--one can see the appeal of smuggling, da? Fair warning: the second I got off the plane in MIA, I was met by a Customs officer with a K-9 pooch. Better to be poor than incarcerated, I suppose.
Over and out, HH
The gameplan was as follows: 15 nights, 15 discrete vaginas...
But it didn't quite work out for a couple reasons:
1. My novia spent 3 days with me.
2. I repeated with 2 girls due to lack of any viable alternatives.
I did 9 LDV girls, listed in chronological order for convenience:
1. Carolina AKA Nini Joanna, 20
2. Viviana, ?
3. Olga, 18 [3x]
4. Valentina, 20
5. Camila, 26
6. Claudia, 23 [2x]
7. Aura, 22 [Nini's cousin--they're all fucking related...]
8. Paola, 23
9. Jane, 21
It is worth noting that Claudia speaks excellent English, and that is the main reason I repeated with her. I rarely repeat, and the three-peat with Olga is totally unprecedented for me. Obviously, these two were my favorites, and I also spent some time with them during the day. GFE shit, ya know?
It is also worth noting that girls can sometimes be found next door to LDV at "La Perla" Casino. This is where I introduced 'Ho' to the famous Viviana.
In addition, I booked one girl through Tony. Another 'Carolina,' this one 18 (she claimed). I may also have had one street girl. My memory is a bit sketchy on this...
That is only 12 vaginas [vaginae?] (including my novia's) so I fell short of the goal. It's all fucking MAV's fault. He's a closet homo for sure.
This trip was a let-down overall compared to my first. None of the girls were spectacular in looks or performance. All the really beautiful Colombianas set sail for Panama or Costa Rica in search of highroller Gringo greenbacks.
[i]What you get in Cartagena is average girls at an affordable price.[/i]
Over and out, HH
A closet Homo? Too many people know better then that.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Zippy
[i]Thanks for the updates, guys! Now how about those pics???[/i][/QUOTE]Zippy, my pics can be found on:
[url]http://********************************Mav/[/url]
[url]http://www.umvclub.com/[/url]
HeadHunter and Mav,
Thanks for the link for UMV Club. Looks like a very promising site and I'm surprised it took me this long to come across it!
But I just want to let you guys know that I was browsing through the Colombia section at UMV and lo and behold, I see someone with the handle, Shaggy2D, has stolen 2 of my pictures from WSA or TSM, uploaded them there, and subsequently, tried to pass them off as his own! Even claimed he met her in CR and that she was from Bogota!
I took those photos of Kelly (the chica with the nice rack) on my Medellin, Colombia trip in July of 2002. If anyone wants proof, check out my Medellin report in the archives of WSA (posted August/September of 2002) or TSM (under "reports of distinction" - 12/2002). Run a keyword search for "Zippy" and you will find a comprehensive Medellin report along with Kelly's smiling face.
I'm quite shocked and disappointed that my photos were swiped (plagiarized) by Shaggy2D. I guess I should be flattered but doesn't this break the "monger-code" (swiping another monger's photos and claiming as one's own)??????!!!!!!!
I have nothing personal against Shaggy2D but I feel he should explain himself and set the record straight so I get proper credit for my contribution. Shit like this makes you think twice about posting photos at all...
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Zippy
[i]But I just want to let you guys know that I was browsing through the Colombia section at UMV and lo and behold, I see someone with the handle, Shaggy2D, has stolen 2 of my pictures from WSA or TSM, uploaded them there, and subsequently, tried to pass them off as his own! Even claimed he met her in CR and that she was from Bogota![/i][/QUOTE]Shit, that does suck! I met Shaggy in person in the DR and he seemed like a great guy. I am surprised he would do something like that. He definitely owes you an apology.
Ok, Shaggy and I settled our issue and he apologized. It's water under the bridge as far as I'm concerned.
Looking forward to contributing more on UMV- I think I'll be ditching WSA since the Colombia info. is lacking...
what the fuc%$# no one has been there since may I am probaly going to dr with no one posting is the scene dead in cart
Guys,
I need help on this one.
I am mailing with this pretty 24 yo girl from Cartagena.(mulatta)
She sais that she is venezuelan and studies at the militairy university there.
She allready sended me several emails with detailed info about her with pics:-)
I mean I heard of thousands illegal immigrants from Colombia in venezuela.
But a venezuelan chica that studies IN Colombia???
What say the experts??
Thanks
Johan.
GUys,
can anyone give me more info about private appartments in Cartagena!!!
I will be there between 25 oktober to 21 November.
I also will be visiting Santa Martha.
What are the price levels in Cartagena regarding appartments??
Is it wise to fly in via Miami directly...or fly in Bogota and there take an inland flight??
Any suggestions???
thanks
Johan.
Guys,
make that 23 Oktober till 19 November.
!!!
Johan.
from mia to cart airlines avianca has a deal 261 check it out-- later
Any odf you mongers got the latest update on the XXX scene in Cartagena???
I love street girls.....but also club *****s are my game:-)
My new GF seems to be somehow catholic (go figure!!) and she told me that she could not stay the night with me.
WEll...that;s fine with me. Then I'll do her during the daytime....and in the evening I just go and discover Cartagena;-)
hehehehe It's a cruel world outthere;-)
Im will try to make pictures and write tripreports aswell.
Johan.
Cartagena, Colombia is the last place in this world where a girl should leave her boyfriend alone. You will have lot's of fun. Instead of telling you where to find the girls it would be easier to tell you where not to find them. Have fun.
La Dolce Vida had better looking girls at cheaper prices. LDV is in the commercial center in front of Las Velas Hotel.
Nevertheless, here are the adresses of other P4P places:
1. Pleyboy
Bosque, Cj. Del Nilo Dg 21 #48-04 Tel 662-0717
The girls are for the most part cute. This is the second best option. It's twice as expensive as taking a girl out of LDV.
2. Manila House
Bosque Transv. 49 # 21B96 Tel 672-2794
I was unimpressed by the selection.
3. Rosa del Mar-Casa del Marino
Nuevo Campestre Calle 10 # 56B51
(According to the cabbie that took me there, this is where the sailors and oil company workers are taken to. The mayor decided to clean up the old city, so, he ordered all the ho houses out.
The girls are in bikinis.)
This club is far, about 25 minutes by car. The taxi driver told me that foreigners become alarmed when he takes them there the first time. It's one lonely stretch of road.
4. Penthouse
Bosque Av. Buenos Aires # 53-74 Tel 662 2215
More unspectacular girls.
Some pics from my Sept. Trip to Cartagena.
A Penthouse Club Girl
2 girls who I found on the Beach
Maritza of LDV
Another LDV girl (Sandra)
Girls who were procured at International Club.
Girl from Pleyboy Club. I do NOT recommend this place. The girls are double the amount as LDV and not as good in the sack. The room was not air conditioned and I was sweating my white ass off. The drink prices are also outrageous.
Chica from Penthouse Club
Chica who was found wandering about near my apartment in el Laguito. Her name is Kelly and is really good in the sack. She also hangs around LDV at night.
A sweetheart from Medellin. She said it was her second day working at LDV. Whatever!
Contact information for Pleyboy Club (if yo actually want to go there), International Club, and a casa.
Another one of Maritza
Pics of La Dulce Vita (LDV) Club in the day. It is to the left of the casino, in the corner of the complex. It is kind of secluded, so just walk up and head toward the casino. The place doesn't open until 11pm, and doesn't get really happening until about 1am.
PROFESSIONAL bilingual tour guide and business man provides gringos with beautiful latin chicas with warm friendly attitudes, sensual bodies and a non-stop desire to party your away.
Also gets you excellent and reasonable accomodation in one of the nicest area in Cartagena, lagito.
REMEMBER: You are gringo that means you're in big demand in CARTAGENA, COLOMBIA. Speaking Spanish helps, but I can even help you get past that.
On top of that I can get you the services below:
1. One free cab ride checking the wildest chicas in the most fascinating casas in town (Cartagena)
2. Excellent simultaneous translation during first and second base, so you and your chica can reach a precise and awesome understanding.
3. Crash spanish courses
4. Reviews and suggestions for major establishments (bars, restaurants, hotels, jewerly shops) and smaller ones as well.
5. You can get anything to party on.
6. Detailed suggesstions and guides to make your adventures more safer, more enjoyable and more fun.
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YOUR trustworthy guide and business man who can take you to nice bars on weekdays or weekends where you can meet nice young ladies willing to spend time with you, know how to treat you and make you feel like a man.
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One free cab ride checking the most fascinating discos and bars
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JT
another chica who I found roaming around el Laguito.
Another one. This is the last one I will post of Cartagena unless some more people post some. I have over 200 pics and will be going back next month. I have no problem matching chica pics, but I don't want to be the only one who is posting pics. I know many of you have pics, it's time to share!
JT
As a "special request" for Nibu, here's your big titty chica.
Hey Fellow Mongers
After the reports from this board and a few chicas I have met at amigos.com. I'm canceling my plans to go to the DR, and I will come to Cartenga instead.
Can somebody recommend a good safe and cheap hotel. I don't want to pay over $50.00 a day. A chica friendly hotel, but of course a hotel I can bring normal chicas to as well. In a location that is good as well of course.
I probably will spend more of my time goinging after normal chicas, but I'll at least try a few establishments.
I should be there between December 11th through December 16th.
Happy Hunting
Octatron,
After visiting Cartagena, I guarantee you won't look at the DR the same, ever!
In Cartagena, I go through a real estate agent whose name is Juan Ventura. Please contact me via a private message using the WSG Forum's Private Message service for his email address.
He is a good guy and a shitload of mongers use him. He has a vast list of girl-friendly apartments with security. He will give you an apartment for the same cost or cheaper than a hotel room. I highly recommend an apartment versuses a hotel. It is like home! Tell him JT from Ohio recommended you to him. He will know exactly what you are looking for.
I will be in Cartagena next weekend.
Good luck!
JT
JT, good to see you on here too.
I'm in the planning stages now to make my 1st trip to CTG. I was hoping for 9 nights or so in early January, but the ticket costs about $1,050 from JFK to CTG using aa.com or orbitz.com.
Anyone have any less expensive options?
Many thanks,
Mister_NYC :D
Updated prices...
Quoted $700 if I leave onJan. 19th and come back on the 29th. Better itinerary.
See all of you soon! Many PICS to come.
Mister_NYC :D
Get a flight to Miami, then a roundtrip to CTG from there. Check Amer. Airlines site for "Netsavers Rates." One week in advance trips, right now the Miami to CTG roundtrip is $329.
American Airlines does not fly to Cartagena. Only Avianca.
Airfare:
Yeah Beavis is correct AA does not fly to Cartagena, they only fly to Bogota and Cali. From there it's another $115 - $200 on the average to fly from those cities to Cartagena.
Although I could of saved between $40 and $50 dollars booking online, I booked my airfare through an agent. I paid $634.00 for roundtrip air from Miami flying Avianca.
Here is the bummer though. Lowestfare.com has a posted fare from Delta nonstop for $533.00 via Miami. So I would recommend everybody to always check out Delta as well. Wish I did. The times are the same as the Avianca flight I'm taking so perhaps Delta is in partnership with Avianca.
Happy Hunting.
Regarding Delta & Avianca...they have what is called a "code share" agreement. Not really partners per se...but DL has block of seats on avianca routes. So yes, you can book Delta via Miami
to CTG, BOG, and Cali. All these flights from Miami carry a Delta flight number, but are operated by Avianca using their equipment.
eric7
Ok Fellow Inmates! I am a veteran of Panama City wars but am going to make my first visit to Colombia. I am going to the Cartagena Hilton from 12/17 until 12/22. Here are my questions:
1. How is this time of year for chica hunting?
2. Should I venture out to the beach and find Tony the Tout or hang around the Hilton pool in the day?
3. How are the clubs like Mr. Babillas, La Escollera, and Te Candela for semi and non-pros?
4. Does anyone want to hook up and go hunting?
Any other advice would be greatly appreciated. Cowboy1.
There is a dude who lives in Ohio most of the year who when he isn't in Cartagena, he rents out his condo, which is located near the heart of the city. His website is http://www.cartagenacondos.com. He has some pretty decent prices. You can view the condo at his site.
All Cartagena Experts,
I need some information on Cartagena, I am interested in finding really hot Colombianos who are excellent in many ways. What is the p4p action look like and what about the non-working girls? If someone could give me a breakdown of the best pro-places with the hottest chicks and also with regular clubs with normal non-pros, It would be greatly appreciated. In return I can give you a breakdown of either Panama City, republic of Panama / Paris,France / South Florida-from west palm beach to Miami. Someone give me a thorough update, thanx.
ILS
Hi all, I'm new to this site.
I'll be in Cartagena from December 21-28. Can anyone recommend a condo with an ocean view for around $40-50 per night? Mark's condo is occupied for that time already. Or do you recommend I just look once I get there at 9pm?
If anyone's in town then, I make a pretty good wingman.
Guapo Gringo
Hey guapo gringo: You are asking for trouble arriving over Xmas with no reservation. The person to book with is Mery, manager of Torre Centauro (3 buildings down from the Hilton and MUCH nicer than Conquistador or other Laguito rental buildings). You can email her through TSMtravel@aol.com (ask Bruce to forward the email to Mery). BOOK SOON!
Hey fellow inmates. I will be switching from the Panama Board to this one for the next couple of weeks. I will be arriving in Cartagena on Wednesday and will be leaving on Monday. I am hooking up with some TSMers on Wednesday and Thursday, and my Mexican buddy will be with me the rest of the trip. Thanks to all of the advice, I picked up a 2 BR apt. in Torree Centaura with Mery.
Since I have thoroughly enjoyed Colombianos in PTY, I am heading to the source. My plans are to go to La Dolce Vida, La Escollera, Tu Candeles, and Mr Babillas. I am also going to work the beach with the infamous Tony the tout!! I have 3 amigos.com girls set up and 2 dancers from PTY who will be in town to see their families. How will this all end up, stay tuned.
Any last advice form anyone? Surfe? Yeaa, I promise not to pay not a cent more than 30 for anything including a TLN. Cuidate mucho y portate bien.
Cowboy1
Long time, First time. Heading to Cartagena over Xmas and New Year. Been here several times but never over the holidays. Anybody wants to hook up send me a private message. From my experience it is not that difficult to meet slightly above average women who will fall in love with you, but you have to be decent looking and willing to wine and dine your lady.
To meet the 9's and 10's is very difficult because they already have their rich Colombianos taking care of them.
Also in my experience, not that many vgl pros. I mainly go for the relaxed atmosphere, warm climate, good food, and the occasional amateur that comes your way.
Far better pro action in Costa Rica and Brazil.
Adios
Hey EZ,
I respect anyone's opinion ... but if you think Costa Rica is better for mongering than Cartegena or any part of Colombia ... we definitely DISAGREE.
Costa Rica is great for the guy who doesn't want to mix the potential danger aspect of Colombia with his mongering ... but Colombia absolutely blows away Costa Rica and the over-priced, largely egotistical chicas from the 'Gringo Gulch'.
Brazil, yes, is awesome but from what I hear it's turning into a "Puff Daddy" wannabe convention ... in Rio that is.
Every man has his opinion I guess ... take care.
Suerte!
I got to go with Ricker here. Been to Costa Rica 19 times and have spent almost 2 months in Cartagena since August. I was there during the Miss Colombia Pageant and never in my life have I seen so many beautiful girls. If you pick out the best looking girls in the Blue Marlin where are they from........................................................ Colombia. If you want a drink of water go to the head of the stream. Ray Charles could see that. The girls in Costa Rica are looking for their clothes as soon as she thinks you are ready to come. In Colombia you have to kick them out.
Costa Rica vs. Colombia not,
thats like fresh Lobster vs. Mrs. Pauls Fish sticks
I got to go with Ricker here. Been to Costa Rica 19 times and have spent almost 2 months in Cartagena since August. I was there during the Miss Colombia Pageant and never in my life have I seen so many beautiful girls. If you pick out the best looking girls in the Blue Marlin where are they from........................................................ Colombia. If you want a drink of water go to the head of the stream. Ray Charles could see that. The girls in Costa Rica are looking for their clothes as soon as she thinks you are ready to come. In Colombia you have to kick them out.
Costa Rica vs. Colombia not,
thats like fresh Lobster vs. Mrs. Pauls Fish sticks
Ok time for my two cents.
First of all I work on a cruise ship, and I’ve pretty much mongered everywhere. I could modestly say that I think I am in the top 5% of all the members in terms of quantity of countries that have been visited.
Now a week ago I would of told anybody that wants to get free sex from local girls the best place was Peru. In Peru it is so easy to pick up girls from anywhere with no effort. You would just have to sit at a park bench or go to a normal disco or bar or a mall, and you would have bites in no time.
Well my friends after visiting Cartagena this past week. No discussion, no debate Colombia is numero uno. Anybody who disagrees with this statement is frankly either a lurker or has not been to Colombia.
Although I did not hobby in Cartagena, I can’t provide information on that aspect. But you will have no problem in Cartagena. I also felt reasonably safe, of course I was super cautious, but nonetheless nothing in Cartagena scared me.
Now my plan was to do all the popular pfp spots along with going after local girls. But I had a change of plans. I met this girl from amigos.com, and I spent all my time with her. She was drop dead gorgeous. In fact I have never had better sex with any prostitute ever in my life, not Argentina, not Brazil, and definitely not Costa Rica or god help us, Thailand. But this girl had a heart of gold, great since of humor, danced better than Shakira, and again was a fucking machine. She was just a normal girl, who is sick of Colombian men and wants out for a better life. The scary part is that I think my mongering days are going to get scarce, as she will be visiting me next month. The point here is that amigos.com is one of many great sites to make contact with girls from Colombia or any other Latin country for that matter.
I did have a chance to stray around a little without her, and I can’t count the times a normal girl would approach me, or wink at me. I’ve heard that Cali is debatably the best city in Colombia for hot Colmbianas but Cartagena deservers a look, I also understand it is considered the safest city in Colombia. Don’t let what you have heard about Colombia keep you away! If you stay smart you will be fine.
Happy hunting!
I loved Cartagena when my ship made port there back in ’92! Found a really pretty 18 year old roaming the beach and in chatting with her I found out she was available for a small contribution. I brought her back to my beachfront hotel, much to the consternation of the staff and she was a real GFE at the incredible price of $20, plus a small increase in the price of my hotel room. We played, showered, screwed, showered again, played some more and then screwed once more. Totally pleasant girl, as were all the women I met in that lovely city.
Octatron,
My buddy hooked up with a chica on Amigos.com last month when I visited CTG. She was a tight little 18 yr old spinner from Barranquilla. She came up during his first night there and banged the living daylights out of him. The next day he told her a bullshit story about how he was going to the Rosario Islands for two days and couldn't take her with him and she had to go back home for a few days. She left, but the next evening we went to LDV and guess who we saw working there.....lil Ms. Barranquilla. These girls are really sweet, but be careful what you believe.
The one below is my LDV girl, Yulie, from Cali. Soooo sweet! Soooo passionate!
Yulie pic 2
This girl rocked!
JT
No I truly believed I have found a jewel. We pretty much chat from like 10:00 PM to 2:00 AM everyday. Sometimes much later. She has a good family, and a repectable job for a Colombiana. I've have talled to her many times at her work, and I visited her work. So I know that she is sleeping through the night and not on any programs.
She is the ultimate GFE! She even closed her amigos.com account for me. So I have her eating out of my hands. heheheheh.
But of course I know there are many amigos.com girls that are players. But it's always a good option to get contacts before you arrive. With that being said. Anybody who comesd to Cartagena will in no time be enjoying that great GFE or hard core sex.
Damn, I love Comumbia!
Happy Hunting
Hey EZ,
I'll be down there late on Sunday night. If you'd like a wingman, let's get in contact. I can assure you that I hold my own. I'll be working the amateurs and what ever else comes along. I'll PM you as soon as I can figure out how to edit my profile.
I already rented an apartment in El Laguito, which is supposed to be right next to the beach and LDV. It set me back a bit, but I'm sure it'll be worth it.
Guapo Gringo
Octatron,
I just read your private message to me from November! Sorry man. I rarely check my messages here. I know, I need to get my head out of my ass and check it more often. I respended to it, so you may want to read it.
JT
This one is "Monica". She is a Club Int'l chica and is another sweet heart!
JT dont you know that as a MODERATOR you are not supposed to post on other sites. This could result on your moderator status being removed.
Monica 2
Monica 3
This is my buddy's biggins.
Scoot over GW, JT. for President!
You're going to cause me to make some early travel plans.
Thx for the fotos!
Hello friends,
Can anybody advise if it is worth it to stop over in Panama City for afew days on the way back from Cartagena to the States or if it would be a complete waste of time and money.
I have been to Colombia several times and enjoyed not only the pro action but also meeting some very lovely ladies in everyday situations (like hanging out near a University or shopping areas or the beach).
Could anybody comment if Panamanians are equally friendly and curious to meet gringos as Colombian ladies? Or have they been corrupted by years of heavy US presence and adopting the attitudes of the ladies in the good old USA?
Mac, thanks for the compliment. More pics coming soon.
EZ, I have not been to Panama, but have friends who lived there. They all said that Panama is a wast of time if you are going there instead of Cartagena. IMHO, Cartagena is the best place that I have mongered so far. Beavis can attest to this too.
To my Norweigian buddy I met on my recent Cartagena trip (December). Hey dude, this is the guy who hung out with you (at the Israeli cafe, the beach and LDV). I hope you are ok and still enjoying yourself. It was blast to meet you. You are one cool ****** and it just brings home another reason why I enjoy meeting traveling, meeting other like minded souls.
BTW, that snobby chica that I was dancing with my last night turned out to be a total affectionate TIGER at my place. Just a fitting end to a wonderful trip. Hope the weather is better.
I've already bought a return ticket and will be there the end of January until the beg of February. I have an apt arranged in Laguito and will be in Cart a minimum of 10 days (maybe more).
PM me dude. I want to chat!
That's weird, it starred out the word 'h ombre'. Wonder why?
poobah, that "H" word is a competing website. That may be the reason why it is not allowed here?
This is a chica from Medellin who I took from LDV. She is HOT! Very nice girl. 19 yrs old
Another of my Medellin Sweetie.
This is Liz, from LDV. She loves anal! Incredible GFE too!
This is Karen from Los Navigantes Casa (AKA: Carmello's Casa).
This is petite Alijandra from LDV.
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Meet a chica from www.cartagena-hot.com
18 yrs old from Barranquilla.
This escort service's pics on the web are NOT accurate, but every one of my 3 chicas from the service rocked. Great personalities. 100K per hour (no rush, one stayed for 3 hours and charged me for one!). The guy you call for an appointment speaks English.
Meet Dayanna from www.cartagena-hot.com
Great GFE!!!
This is Jannys from LDV. Little petite spinner! One of my personal favorites there. 22 yrs old
She's a Cartagena native.
JT: Good work & thanks for posting the pics. People paying 100K per hour in Cartagena is NOT something I support or encourage, but it is hard to argue with the good results you are getting. Keep up the good work!
JT, thanks for the great pics.
I like them slim and petite as well.
Seems like most are beautiful and personable as well.
Seems like the total package is not so rare in Cartagena.
I would have a hard time saying adios to some of these lovely chicas.
As much as I like variety, I often have a hard time saying adios, no mas, and vamos.
Salut.
Thanks Surfer
Meet Shirly from www.cartagena-hot.com
21 yrs old from Medellin
Great Ass!
Shirly Pic 2
Don't you love staring at ass!
JT.
Very nice pics of extremely attractive and sexy young women. The posts regarding Columbian girls as one of the prettiest (knockouts) in SA seems to be true. The offers on the website are highly desirable. I booked a trip to DR for Easter. Perhaps I should have given my travel plans more consideration. Will reciprocate with pics at that time.
HAPPY NEW YEAR. Have a good one. Have many.
Thanks NYC Expat,
I am looking forward to seeing your pics.
From past experience conversing with fellow mongers who, unlike me, are experts in the DR, they all have one thing in common. When they visit SA (i.e., Colombia, Brazil, Venezuela, Argentina, etc...) they ALL say that these countries smoke the DR. I am not bashing the DR, I haven't been and don't want to prejudge, I am just stating what my monger buddies have said.
Happy New Years Everyone!
Monger Forever!!
SHHHHHHH! The more guys who go to the DR, CR, Mexico etc the less there are to go to the GOOD places!
Ok fellow inmates, here is the promised download from my first trip to CTG and Colombia. As usual, I thank the many who gave me great advice beforehand.
1. Awesome place!!!! CTG has my highest recommendation. I will go there again in late January.
2. Safe. The Colombian Navy is based about 2 miles from the tourist areas. I never felt unsafe even though I was careful.
3. Chicas Everywhere. Gringos are walking rock stars in their world. There was not a chica that didn't smile at me or give me eye contact the whole visit ( I am average looking on a good day)
4. Not many gringos. I stayed in the El Laguito area which is the upclass area on the beach and only saw a handful of Americans at best.
5. Cheap. Everything is cheap. The best looking chicas from Medellin go for $ 20 for 2-3 hours and $ 50 for all night. The hardest part is getting them to leave. They will try their damnest to latch on to you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
6. Non-pros. Very easy to find if you have the time and patience ( which I do not).
7. Bocagrande beach. Full of vendors and chicas trying to latch on to you. I like the private beaches attached to apartment buildings a little better unless you want some action.
8. Old City. Alot of history here to see. This place is gorgeous. Full of discos, restaurants, and chicas trying to latch on to you.
What else can I say? I am working on my return. Cowboy1
You hit the nail on the head Cowboy1.
CTG is one of the great places in this world to monger. With the exception of the damn touters chasing you around to buy crap from them, I have no complaints what-so-ever! The chicas are among the sweetest on Earth!
Have fun and rock on!! I am looking forward to reading your reports!
Change of plans - I'm convinced.
I had no idea CTG was only an extra 45 min. flying time from MIA compared to POP in DR. From your pics and posts on this thread, I will try to cancel my flight on AA and re-book on Delta for CTG instead.
I would like to find a girl friendly hotel close to the beach. Found Caribe Hotel on Bocagrande, but they want $125 a night for standard. Any recommendations for similiar quality more affordable. Is El Laguito area near or same for Bocagrande?. Thanks.
Of course, a full report to follow. I use a Canon G3 for digiphotos. Read my posts for Copenhagen if interested.
NYC Expat,
I highly recommend Hotel Las Velas. It is across the street from Monger paradise (LDV). It is only about $35 low season and $45-ish high season. I also have an email for a real estate agent who is honest and can hook you up with a great apartment for $35-65 per night depending on size. All these are located in El Laguito.
Email me or PM me if you want his email because Jackson doesn't want emails posted in forums anymore.
JT
NYC Expat: Can't beat THE LOCATION of Las Velas, but the 4 star rating is a cruel joke. Imagine an older Howard Johnson, with OLD airconditioning units, but with a VERY central location. Caribe is MUCH nicer, as is Almirante (my favorite, but several blocks further away), Hilton etc.. And Las Velas location is NOT a plus at all if you want to avoid running into chicas you have already patronized (if you get my drift).
That $125 rate for Caribe is likely from travelocity or something and you CERTAINLY will get a better rate calling hotel directly IN SPANISH! Or just book for one night then ask around. I've seen the Hilton for $80 on travelocity before, and can get that down another $10 or so. The upscale hotels are a tad stricter on guest policy, but still not too bad really.
If you like to invite MANY chicas (like more than 1 at a time), apartments are the way to go. Do NOT rent from a Belgian scumbag named EddySalence, however! HIs exwife Mery, a SWEET colombiana, runs Torre Centauro, about 3 buildings down from the Hilton. I can give you her email (and a link to many pictures of the apartments) if you private message me.
NYC Expat: Just saw you are going at Easter: DO BOOK IN ADVANCE as that is HIGH season!
Actually, Eddy the scumbag's ex-wife is Iranian, and yes she is sweet.
I just rented an apartment from her in December ... she wanted 120,000 CP per night ... high season. Since the place was having AC problems ... the unit was always breaking and people always coming to work on it ... we halved the price.
I will definitely always go thru her.
By the way, Eddy actually came to my apartment trying to lure me away from Mery.
And ... two other Gringos I met accidently over paid Eddy a bit and could never find the guy for the refund ... he just disappeared ... when before they said they could never get rid of him.
I have also heard negative things about Eddy, although I we haven't met. I did meet Mery. Bruce introduced us back in September. She translated some things for me. She is a very nice lady. I haven't rented from her because I usually rent from Juan Ventura. I used him originally and had great experiences with his apartments. When I find a good thing, I usually try to stick with it. If Juan ever had problems accommodating me, I would definitely utilize Mery's apartments. Mery does look hispanic, but she is indeed Iranian.
Thanks guys, esp. JT and Surfer.
Lots of helpful info here. I originally purchased flight on AA for DR but I changed my mind. Prefer CTG instead. Got a problem now with non-refundable ticket on AA. AA flies to CTG from MIA via BOG. 4 hrs. extra travel time. Delta is non-stop saving over 4 hrs. ea. way. Will sort out asap.
In the meantime, searched the net and came up with a good deal in an apartment very close to the Hilton. Only $35 a night in a 2 room apt. I must admit it looks good.
Also contacted JT's recommendation. Thanks. As stated, I must battle the airlines and fares before deciding how. I know when.
I'll get there one way or the other. First trip south of Key West so I'm looking forward to latinas. I was in Casablanca last July. Gorgeous gals, but it got expensive since hotels get piece of the action (she must register, buyer pays).
More soon.
Have a good one. Have many.
NYC EXPAT,
I was also in Morocco last year. Trust me, the girlies in South America smoke anything on Earth! (IMHO of course). $35 seems awefully cheap for a 2 bedroom apartment. Do you know which building it was in? I have a feeling it is in the Conquistador. If so, you may want to pay a little extra and go to Excelarus, Torre Centauro, Torre Marina, Carib Real, or another apartment building.
As with your airline ticket. If you cancel it, you may be charged like $100 or so to have the remainder as a credit on that airline. If that airline flies to Colombia, take it. I can give you a phone number where you can get a good rate from point A to point B within Colombia. For example, I flew from Bogota to Cartagena for $99 roundtrip, and the published fare was $400.
Can you please post the phone number for this contact re airfares within Colombia?
Thanks in advance
NYCExpat: Neither Delta nor AA flies to CTG (MUST be a code share with Avianca). The MIA-CTG nonstop is MUCH more convenient than routing through BOG.
JT: $99 BOG-CTG-BOG is a GREAT deal (NEVER buy domestic tixs outside Colombia, but even on aerorepublica $99 would be a GREAT deal). Please PM me the contact if you do not mind.
Guess my ability to determine Colombiana isn't as good as I thought as I had NO IDEA Mery was Iranian. She could be Osama's daughter but I would still trust her WAY more than the Belgian dwarf! And she is a hell of a lot better looking than 99.9% of American women near her age.
JT.
I missed your post in time regarding cheap flight from BOG-CTG. Next time will be different. It’s a done deal because I’m limited on time. I’m only in S. FL. this trip for 14 days with 7-11 April in CTG. If I enjoy myself, I’ll spend more time in CTG another trip. I bet you guys agree I will.
Surfer.
I knew about Avianca flying MIA-CTG which I now have confirmed reservations on. Couldn’t see changing AA flight, pay $100 service charge and use extra 4-5 hrs. travel time via BOG. As stated, time is more important than money. AA flight from MIA leaves 8.20 AM for BOG. Roundtrip on website today is $501.50. AV leaves MIA 2 PM arriving 3.40 PM. I like that. Also return to MIA, AV arrives 12.30 PM. AA from BOG arrives in MIA 5.30. I have Easter Sunday afternoon to enjoy in South Fl.
I’m impressed JT. You know your stuff. I booked in El. Q. The photos look good and owner’s sister will pick me up at the airport (for a small fee). It’s OK. They have indoor pool, a little grocery, security and the price is affordable. While I’m there, I’ll check around the other locations you suggested for future reference. You didn’t say in your last post why the other locations were worth investigating.
I feel really optimistic about CTG as they have a website full of info. Sosua has gotten much negative postings the past few days. I choose it first only as a matter of convenience to MIA. I would have preferred Sao Paulo, but I will need more time in FL. to relax after jetlag from Europe, then another long flight to SAO. Not this trip. CTG is just fine. The website with HOT escorts are knockouts and reasonable, if I need company. Expect to find her locally though. Cross your fingers, maybe she’ll be sitting next to me on the plane.
Mucho gracias amigos. I’m starting lessons early next month. I’m buying in CTG if we meet.
Meet Laura.
She was found wandering the beach. She is the sweetest girl you could ever meet!!
Laura Pic 2
Laura Pic 3
Meet Yulie
Yulie 2
Yulie 3
Three Hotties
ahhh, the great Maritza
Maritza 2
Two Hotties
My sweetheart from Medellin.
Guys, these pics don't do her justice!!
Pic 2
Pic 3
I just love that smile. She reminds me of Jessica Alba ("Dark Angel").
Your sweetheart is very pretty.
Are these pics recent?.
Hope to find similar beauty in April.
Have a good one. Have many.
They are from November-December 2003
I am curious about the climate in Cartegena at this time. Is it safe. I am reading reports by US State Department that it is not. Please advise me, as I wish to travel to Cartegena and or CAli in March. What are the do's and don'ts for gringo travelers ? Is it Safe?
Fast Eddy
Fast Eddy,
You are talking about two extremes. Cartagena is touristy and is completely safe for the American tourist. Cali has FARC runing around the mountains just a few miles away. I am not saying not to go to Cali. I would venture there in a NY minute, but you have to realize that it is a little more dangerous there, especially if you want to go to the beach (Buenaventura).
Dayana from Medellin. She was found at CTG beach.
Dayana 2
Pic 3
Meet Alijandra from Club International
Eddy: Cartagena is VERY heavily policed because it is the one place in Colombia with signifigant numbers of foreign tourists. The tourist areas are likely safer than where you live. Not so in Cali. While FARC-EP, the urban group (ejercito poblacion) is in Cali, being kidnapped in the city itself is highly unlikely (unless you flash lots of wealth and act like a stupid gringo). As JT notes, however, leave the city and all bets are off. The road to Buenaventura is NOTORIOUS for trouble, even many locals won't use it, and the beaches are rough and NOT very nice (seen pictures, but I aint going in that tunnel under the mountain-no sir!).
ESPECIALLY if you are not fluent in Spanish and have LOTS of third world travel experience, stick to Cartagena. The inexperienced or non Spanish speakers that DO go tend to go on organized trips through marriage agencies and they rarely (ever) leave the Hotel InterC).
Gentlemen, regarding the safety in Cartagena, I agree that is the safest city in Colombia. However, this does not mean you should venture around at night in dark places, especially alone!
I have been there several times and with some common sense precautions your trip should be enjoyable.
I cannot say the same thing about Cali. Several of my friends have been held up at gunpoint in the city and robbed very recently-and this is in very good areas. Please don't let your guards down in these big cities. Always take cabs where ever you go and stick to the busier areas of town.
Regarding the women, I find Cali has the prettiest ladies if you are into a little bit darker skin tone. To land a non-pro girl will take some effort and time, however.
Three Hotties
Fanny, Alijandra, and Natalia
All from LDV.
Fanny was my chica de la dia. Total Sweetheart!!
Fanny and Alijandra 2
This is Fanny solo
Natalia solo
Ass shot of Natalia
Natalia's jewels
The beautiful Fanny again.
Cartagena Beach with two other buddies and our chicas. It was a blast!!!
Fanny's tatitcas.
Fanny "surprised" in the shower.
My buddy and his chica of the day.
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JT,
Glad to see that Fanny is still in the biz. I hooked up with her for a couple of nights back in September. Tried to get both her and her friend Jenny up to my room, but Jenny didn’t have a valid cedula and they wouldn’t let her go up, so Fanny and I went solo. She called me a couple of night later and came by for a couple of hours. Still in contact with her by email every once in a while. She was very very good.
Have fun
Alijandra! Wow, very very cute. I am going back in two days and have an apt. in Laguito. Can't wait!!
Tonight have to break it to the stateside GF that I'm leaving for two weeks. Hmmm.... wonder if I'll be gettin' any! :(
Poobah: WHY eat a last meal at bland Mickey D's, when you will soon be at the muliticultural rodizo (all you can eat meat buffet!). Save your energy man.
Also, having "been there and done that", IMHO you are better off waiting until the day you leave to break the news or she will use the next two days to guilt trip you.
Meet "Cata"
Catalina Pic II
Catalina Pic III
This girl was one of the sweetest and best GFE's that I have had in Cartagena! I picked her up at LDV. I highly, I mean HIGHLY, recommend her! Great personality and awesome performance!
JT,
Cuantos $$ por Alijandra?
ST or TLN?
Are most chamacas also little mamas who need to earn money for bebe?
MM
Kinda wild. I actually told her after the movie tonight (we saw 21 Grams, a pretty cool movie by the same guy who did Amores Perros) and we ended up having a great slam anyways. It's kinda funny because you get that 'I'm going to get laid in two days' attitude.
Considering our relationship is probably going to have the lifespan of a Mayfly I'm not going to sweat it if she bails by the time I come back.
But yeah!! Colombia here I come!
Great work JT, looks like you had a ball.
Hi JT
Wouldn't mind meeting Catalina in Cartegena. Exactly what is LDV abrev. for and where?. Thanks
LDV is the great MONGER HEAVEN of Cartagena. It is purely the BEST place for P4P in the area, PERIOD! It stands for La Dolce Vita. It hides under the classification of a discoteque, but is actually a pic up joint. Kind of like a computer mouse, you walk in, point and click! Doesn't get easier than that! It is one of the best P4P places I have ever experienced. So many hotties from all over Colombia in such a compact place.
Damn, I miss that place!
Mangus,
Alijandra cuesta ochenta mil pesos para mi amigo.
Thanks JT.
"The Good Life" (it certainly must be) will be my first visit.
NYC Expat: LDV is in the same shopping complex as La Perla Disco. Cannot miss it right as you enter Laguito (once you pass the CLASSIC old style Hotel del Caribe there will be a Y intersection-or get out as Hotel Las Velas and cross the street).
Do NOT got before 11pm (better from 12-2). Word is there are currently TONS of chicas, but there are also TONS of paisanos (Italians) in town.
Excellent advice Surfer.
I hear though gringos get preference.
NY,
Anyone with $$$ get's preference. YMMV
Gotta disagree with JT here. The chicas do NOT like going with the "ugly American" types who act like convicts seeing their first women after long prison sentences. And if they don't like you, you WILL pay more and get less. Not suggesting you are "one of them", NYC, but act like a respectful ADULT and you will do fine.
Surfer
Re.: Talk about convict behavior.
Have you read some of the other threads on this forum?
Some reports are highly disrespectful and not self-critical with their use of language.
I can assure you I am a VERY respectful adult and treat women with utmost respect. I know what you mean by "ugly" individuals and their behavior. I live in Europe and see it all the time. Not just US citizens but also from other countries. I am also "home" once or twice yearly to re-charge my batteries. I see some things I am amazed at.
Anyway, I am quite confident I will not encounter problems. I dress also accordingly. I am starting spanish lessons in 2 weeks for 18 intensive hrs. I don't expect to speak fluently, but some ability must be an advantage. Do you approve?
Finally, there are a few latinas here I visit periodically. They are very sweet and they approve of my visits.
Have a good one. Have many.
NYC: Sounds like you'll do just fine. Have a great trip, but keep your wits about you AT ALL TIMES.
Meet Andrea from LDV
18 or 19 yrs old. Nice personality.
Another "angle" of Andrea
Yet another angle
Oh yea, Andrea spreads!!!
Meet Yurani from Medellin. I plucked her from the fields of LDV. Great "crop". Very sweet. Great body. 18/19 yrs old. Nice personality and performance is about a 7-ish. Not bad for roughly $28.
I just love Yurani's ass.
Another of Yurani
Last of of Yurani
Nice fotos JT. Keep up the good work.
JT now that Yurani is one primera chica. From Medellin you say? Can't wait to get to that city.
Keep the pics coming,
Rufus
Rufus,
Yurani is from Medellin, but was working in LDV in Cartagena. LDV is a "meat market" where you will find the hottest chicas in CTG, PERIOD. Anyone who say's otherwise is trying to cover up their " secret paradise".
I mongered in just about every discoteque and casa in CTG and LDV is where it's at. Since LDV has the hottest chicas, I recommend only staying there for about 5 days. You will soon get bored if you stay longer. I was there in Sept for 3 weeks and fucked damn near all the hotties in LDV. I returned in Nov/Dec for another 3 weeks and did the same. This time I had to bang chicas more than once because LDV ran out of 7-10's. I shit you not. If going to Colombia, you should hit CTG for a few days then check out other cities and return to CTG in the end for a couple days. This is my recommendation.
Happy Hunting
Meet Mila with yours truly. If there ever were a chica who should be in Porn, Mila would be her! She has a great open attitude and will do virtually anything! She even broke my buddy's dildo in her!
Mila again.
Believe it or not, she's 29 years old!
"Fake Tatas" courtesy of her Italian exboy-toy. Thanks Italian dude!
Another of Mila
Another view of her big ass titties.
A dirty one for you all.
JT: That's sounds like some sound advise, very much apperciated.
I'll be in Colombia for at least 3mos. so I'll definatly detour to CTG.
Hey JT,
Very good pics.
Where have you find the beautiful Mila?
Thanks for info!
Stay cool,
Mad Frax
JT!
You Sir are on a major roll! Your post of these girls are some of the best I have seen. Do any of them speak any English? Did you keep most of these girls for all night? Were they all about the same as far as the pesos? Thanks for sharing your great photos!
Rufus,
I am happy to be of assistance.
Mad Frax,
Mila was taken from the beach area just behind Hotel Las Velas (across the street from LDV). Talk to Tony 1 (the touter with the silver tooth and who squints). He has hundreds of phone numbers in his adress book on his cell. Stay away from the short Tony, he's a piece of work. The little shit tried to rip me off numerous times. In fact, use Tony 1 for his chicas, but negotiate price and tips BEFORE he does anything for you. Trust nobody!
Good & Plenty,
A small percentage of the chicas in CTG speak English, and the ones who do usually don't speak it well. It is not necessary to be fluent in Spanish if you are picking up chicas in LDV. My buddy doesn't speak a lick of Espanol and he does just fine. I would not let language deter you from visiting CTG and LDV. The chicas there are used to tourists. Bottome line: they love $$$, no matter what language you speak.
If you plan to venture out of CTG, you will have to learn basic Spanish. I suggest Pimsleur's Language Series.
Happy Hunting
EXCELLENT advice JT. I avoided BOTH Tony 1 & 2 whenever possible, but Tony #1 DOES have more contacts with beach girls than anybody. The Superchulo.
Anyone knows of a hotel in Cartagena that gives you internet access through a lap top in the rooms?
I must use my personal lap top to connect to the Internet, and regular lobby internet are no good to me.
Help?
Try the Hilton. You will be paying big bucks and it is hit or miss regarding being girl-friendly.
Meet Signey, or "Cindy.
18 yrs old
Petite hard body and definitely know it!
I paid about 70K for a few hours of afternoon fun. She was one of Tony's chicas.
Cindy pic II
Cindy III
Pic IV
Cindy Pic V
Cindy Pic VI
Cindy Pic VII
Cindy Pic VIII
JT
A real knockout. Can't wait for my trip.
Meet Yulie
19-ish from Cali
Works at LDV
I posted some of her before, but these are digital.
Yulie pic 2
Yulie and yours truly
Yulie again
Girl from Bogota
Works at LDV
A view of the LDV compound from my balcony at Hotel Las Velas.
JT,
Them little tiny pictures don't really do you or us justice.
Just some feedback.
Another LDV girl.
Pic II
Pic III
Pic IV
'Semana Santa'
Does anyone have any info or experience regarding this holiday in April?.
Is it a waste of time to visit the city that week or is it business as usual?. Thanks.
Is there a difference, action wise, whether or not I should visit on the weekend, or during the week?
MAN,
From my personal experiences in LDV, Friday and Saturday nights are the best. The worse night is Sunday by far. Sunday is reserved for casas when I visit CTG. You may also try some escort agencies. Cartagena-hot . com worked well for me on three different occasions.
Hey Guys,
I know you get this a lot, but Ive been reading your past posts and it doesn't really make sense to me. Are there any good contacts as far as apartments to rent for about ten days, and is late May early June a good time to go. I'm pretty sure I got all the names of the clubs down, just wondering about this is all. And if any one wants to hang out for a few days, I'm going to be travelling solo on my first trip to Colombia.
Thanks
I use Juan Ventura, a real estate agent. He has very nice condos at good prices. His email is itts @ excite . com
JT, and anybody else
What is your impression of the El Conquistador apartments in Laguito? Which is a stone throw from the Hilton. I’m thinking about buying an apartment there. Then renting it out. Also anybody have any experience with the Realtor named Paul Juan, is he honorable?
Happy hunting!
IMHO, they are a shithole. Try Excelarus, Torre Centauro, or other buildings on the other side of the road.
So, as my 3 month visa will be up in Costa Rica the end of March I'm going to have to leave my beloved San Jose for a few days before I can re-enter for another 3 months. I've been wanting to check out Cartagena and today found a really cheap package deal from San Jose, about $500 for five nights at the Decameron Beach Hotel on Bocagrande beach, all-inclusive with airfare, transfers, meals, booze etc. Too good to pass up.
Questions for some of you Cartagena experts.
First, does anyone know if the Decameron is chica friendly. Somehow as it is an all-inclusive place I kind of doubt it. My Spanish is fluent and I plan to be working the Decameron's bars and disco for vacationing talent but will also be taking chicas out of LDV I'm sure.
If Decameron is not chica friendly I'll need to rent another cheap hotel room where I can take chicas from LDV, the beach and other places. Can anyone point me towards a couple of hotels that might work for this purpose?
Most of the rest of the info I need I have found already posted. I'm looking forward to CTG. I love Colombianas but the ones who make it here to San Jose and frequent the Del Rey are mostly out of my price range, particularly during the high season. Some of these hot Colombiana ho's are asking and getting up to $200 an hour here. Unreal! I'm looking forward to tapping some of this fine poontang at the source.
Thanks for your help.
Mexpat
Photo is of a Colombiana I know who is now asking $200 in the Del Rey in San Jose and getting it from some of the tourists.
Mexpat,
All reports have the Decameron not chica friendly. I saw the same package deal, it is a hell of a deal and hard to pass up.
The hotel you want for your needs is The Las Velas hotel. Location could not be better! You pick up your chica in LDV, you walk out the door, down some steps, cross the street, and you are at Las Velas. It is also smack dab on the beach right where the action is.
You'll love La Dolce Vita. LDV is a friggin smorgasboard :-)
The same chica going for 200 an hour in Costa Rica will struggle to get 40 dollars for the night in Cartagena.
I'll be there myself in for a few days in Mid March. Have a ball amigo!
The below article is in today's El Universal (newspaper of Cartagena). It basically says HIV/Aids cases in Cartagena is on the rise from the previous year. Put a hat on that Jimmy!
Aumentó el Sida en el 2003 en Cartagena
ANÍBAL THERÁN TOM
El Universal
Un total de 290 casos de Sida se detectaron en el 2003 en Cartagena, de acuerdo con el informe del perfil epidemiológico de la ciudad presentado por el Dadis ayer.
Según el informe, el Sida se incrementó en un 15% con relación al 2002. Aunque Alexis Ramos, médico epidemiólogo del Dadis, dijo que se estima que el contagio de los casos detectados se presentó progresivamente en los últimos 10 años, lo que indica el incremento de la prevalencia de la enfermedad.
También es preocupante, agregó, que se hayan aumentado los casos de enfermedades de transmisión sexual en el 2003 en un 50% con relación al 2002. "Cuando estaban casi controladas volvieron a presentarse casos de sífilis, herpes genital, gonorrea y otras enfermedades que se contagian por el no uso de preservativo y la promiscuidad sexual", dijo.
En Cartagena se han registrado en los últimos 15 años 1.500 casos de VIH Sida. Por esa enfermedad han muerto cerca de 480 personas, según las cifras del Dadis.
Indicó que el Dadis realiza controles no sólo en las personas que se dedican al comercio sexual, sino en el resto de la población. "Nuestros funcionarios dictan charlas en colegios y universidades sobre los peligros del sexo sin protección", dijo.
Así mismo, el director del Dadis, César Pión, dijo que se ha iniciado la búsqueda activa de casos en toda la ciudad, pues se busca bajar la incidencia de esta enfermedad. "Hay que reducir el estigma y la discriminación hacia los enfermos de VIH y por el contrario debemos reconocer que es una realidad social", indicó.
Greetings,
I'll be in CTG from 7-11 April. Looking forward to first trip to S.A. and LDV is highest priority.
BTW, has anyone else noticed Cartagena-hot website is closed?.
Thank you Vallenato
Here are a few choice translations
[280 Aids cases detected in 2003]
[STD's are up 50% in 2003 compared to 2002.]
[Herpes, gonorreah, syphilis have made a resurgence, because condoms are not used.]
[Over the last 15 years 1500 cases of AIDS have been diagnosed.]
Well, I´ve got a few weeks off from work so I´m off for a Colombia adventure ... a few days in Cartagena ... to Pereira, Manizlaes, Armenia region ... to Cali (got to meet a chica I met on the internet) and to top things off ... of course Medellin.
I have got to say that Mery Salence is a true gem for finding a condo here in Cartagena ... on very short notice she found me an awesome place ... it´s a 2 bedroom but she´s only charging 1 room rates because I´m solo.
Her email is: oficerna@yahoo.com phone: 575-655-0384
she´s a sweatheart and she speaks english and spanish.
I never made it to LDV last night like I wanted .... as soon as I got to the condo, I put on the shorts and hit the beach ... on the way there I saw a real cutie walking with her baby in her arms and I approached her and said I wanted to help her a little with some plata $$$ ... I said I didn´t want anything ... just that it made me feel good to help out a mother with her baby ... I gave her 20,000 pesos ($7).
I walked her to her apartment where she lives with her Mama and she asked where I was staying and if she could visit me sometime ... of course I said yes.
When I came back from the beach about an hour later ... I saw her waiting for me and we went up and had a cerveza and she asked if she could give me a massage to relax me and I think you know the rest ....
Great time ... tried to give her some more plata $$$ but she refused ... I promised to see her again soon.
Then I go out for a walk to find comida (food) and I run into the famous Maritza and some of her friends. I took a liking to one of her friends ... a beautifull Costenanita (local chica from Cartegena) ... pictures later (tastefull type).
We all sat at Riquisimos for some comida and cervezas and the Costena and I played footsies and of course again ... you know the rest of the story ... we spent the rest of the evening and night together and damn if she didn´t like sex more than me ... which is almost impossible.
She never asked for plata $$$ but of course, being with Maritza, I knew she was a worker ... but very sweet. I gave her 120,000 pesos ... that was all I had with me ... she was happy ... I was ´muy contento´ (satisfied).
I promised to call her later too.
Now I´m off to the playa (beach) to see what kind of trouble i can find there ...
Tonite ... gotta check out the LDV to see how things are there ... report soon.
Monday, I´m off to another city and adventure.
Suerte!
Hello all fellow pooners.
Firstly, thank you all for your information. I just got back to Vancouver from Thailand which I have been many times. But will not repeat. I'm looking for new material. Cartagena really has my interest. I speak a bit of spanish and love those latin girls. I am planning a trip a.s.a.p. for a couple of weeks just to get a feel for the place. Can someone recommend a nice lady freindly place to stay that is not noisey. I am 55 and very active , but cannot stand loud techno music all night. Now, the important stuff. Chica's, what and where is it and how does it work? I'm sure the same as all places. I'm not a cheap charlie but i don't like to throw my money away. I would be happy for variety or if I get lucky then hang with a stunner the whole time. Do you have to go to the clubs to pick up a girl or are most gorls approachable on the street. Always nicer to get a non-pro. we know they are all the same. Have pussy will travel. But there is something about a non-bar girl that makes me feel better. But I do have picky high taste and love the slim trim stunners.
Thanks in advance.
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Could someone please report on when is the best time to visit Cartagena? In particular, I would like to visit at a time when it is still warm enough to go swimming in the Pacific. It looks like it is close enough to the equator that it might be possible to go all year around. Is this true?
Thanks in advance for your help.
DfB
DfB
Cartagena is an all-year round resort.
However, it is not on the pacific, rather on the atlantic and more specific on the caribbean sea.
High season is June-August and late DecemberJanuary.
Low season (very low) is Feburary-late June.
It´s really good in early November because they have the annual beauty pagent.
Take care
Latintraveller
LT,
Thanks for the info. Is "low season" only low in terms of prices and number of tourists? that is to say, is it a good time for mongering?
DfB
You have to really look to find an ugly girl in Cartagena. IMHO the low season is the best time to go. Stop worrying about it. The biggest problem you will ahve is not beng able to get another hard on fast enough.
Some sources including travel forums maintain that Cartagena continues to be totally safe destination for tourists. Can anyone comment on this? Obviously kindapping is the worst scare. But have there ever been any abductions in this city?
Also I hear nowadays ship call into the port of Cartagena. So how touristy this place really now is? Please help get a feel for what it's like security-wise and as a fun place to spend time in.
Thanks
Sean EZ,
Cartegena is safe. To quote from a movie, "This isn't Switzerland." But it's safe.
I was there last year and walked about at two in the morning and no one bothered me, except for the beggars. There are lots of beggars.
In terms of fun. I put up a small list of chica clubs in this sub-group a while back. There's the ever so popular "Dolce Vida" in front of Las Velas hotel.
There are also the regular dance clubs at Plaza del Reloj and in Calle del Arsenal, such as Mr. Babilla.I found regular clubs to be jumping from Thursday to Saturday, quite empty the rest of the week.
The old town is a trip back in time to colonial Spain. You could get a guide and do a four hour tour through the town. My experience is that it is best to arrange tours it through the best hotels in town.
Ferolga
I am going to Colombia for the first time and I hope someone could advise me about the following not only gor Cartagena but for Bogota, Cali and Medellin as well
-Girl friendly hotels for 20$ or less.
-Discos/nightclubs/etc where you find freelancers ( I am not too interested in places where you just pick a girl, pay a barfine etc).
-Prices for ST and LT for freelancers.
I am going in less than a month and I am thrilled. Grateful for answers.
Hotel in Cali aprox $23.50 US per night - no hot water however they will tell you that there is hot water - girl friendly Opposite this Hotel is Hotel Imperial same price same owner with Hot Water. Very safe however at night the place looks dismal.
Address and Name Hotel Americana CRA 4 No 8-73 Cali Tel 882-4370 -72
I know a few places in the other cities but the price is more in the region of $45-100US I like to stay in suites with some fancy stuff like pools stuff like that. But I know there are some very safe and reasonable hotels in these cities, but its hard to find a decent and safe place under $20 bucks.
HAPPYC
I was in Cartagena for 5 days during the Easter holidays. I was told the city is safe. I walked a great deal around the city, both the old Spanish district and the area known as Bocagrande. I saw many police patrols during the day as well as military groups during the day and night patroling and conducting road blocks. I escorted my girl friend from my apt. to her home very late in a taxi, roundtrip over ½ hr., and saw no questionable activity whatsoever. Did see active military patrols at night. I walked the neigborhood of Bocagrande at night where there are many small restaurants and the La Perle Casino. Very peaceful. LE and MP are visible.
Sure there is one area or two to stay away from. The same holds true in NYC, LA or other major metropolis.
In conclusion, Cartagena is probably Colombia’s safest city for tourism and hobbying. I recommend you go. You won’t regret it. The Bocagrande beach area is something to experience, both the positive (women, friendly population, warm Carib. Sea) and the negative (HOT, salty sea and all the aggressive sellers). Feel unsafe, plenty of taxis to choose from. A 3-4 mile (4-6 km.) ride costs only 3000 pesos (less than a NYC subway token).
I am going back this summer for minimum 2 weeks.
So far so great - the hell with Thailand, Manila, Costa Rica. Its all true here. Tony 1 is a bit of a fleecer on the beach behind Las Velas but he delivers. You dont really need him anyways. Only problem is the club doesnt open until 10 pm. The good news is the place is crawling with them all day. Great service here and good prices.
NYC Expat
Good insights.
Tell me, did you happen to go into the casino to make a monetary contribution? What's the action like in the casino(s)? Would you recommend them as a diversion once one tires on, and needs a respite from, the hokie-pokie?
Ez
If you play blackjack you have to be careful because Colombians do not hit 13,14,15,16 against a 10 I do not understand why. The dealer only draws one card and they are assuming the card will be a low card I am not quite sure on the odds. I know from reading Blackjack strategies that this is a no no. Just my 2 cents.
HAPPY C
I am thinking about a trip. How safe is it for American gringos? Thanks, Hondo
Hondo,
This place not really for Gringos. It is Colombia after all. However if you exercise caution and stick to Boca Grande area and the old city and maybe Central city it is okay. Expect to get bribed by the cops who are in military fatigues and carrying your passport around is a death wish.
Jwilly,
I am also considering going. From all the forums I could find on internet everyone is being very positive and says plenty of gringos/europeans in Cartagena, and that it's safe.
You are making strong discouraging statements ? Passport death wish, militaries, being bribed by cops, what does this all mean - can you elaborate more on these? Have you had any bad experiences yourself?
Thank you
Hola Amigos!
This city sounds unreal. I have not read anything here about the weather. Anyone know anything about June July weather. Are the clubs/ hotels/ girls still busy in June July?
I found this at weather.com (sorry it would not keep the format)
Month Avg.High Avg.Low Avg.Precip.
January 88.2° F 73.8° F 0.30 in
February 88.2° F 74.1° F 0.00 in
March 88.3° F 75.0° F 0.00 in
April 88.7° F 76.6° F 1.20 in
May 89.1° F 77.5° F 3.60 in
June 89.2° F 77.5° F 4.50 in
July 89.4° F 77.0° F 3.70 in
August 89.4° F 77.0° F 4.90 in
Septem 88.9° F 76.8° F 5.70 in
October 88.2° F 76.3° F 9.60 in
Novem 88.3° F 76.5° F 5.20 in
Decem 88.5° F 74.8° F 1.50 in
Is June July a bad time to go? Will any of you be there Then?
Thanks
Nuevo
Sean EZ,
Well it is Colombia. YEs I have had some unfortunate things happen with police. Dont carry your passport just a copy because they have to kill you to use it. And its worth 10K. Stick to the areas below and its basically ok.
Will be arriving May 5th- 12th with my good friend Dashing Don. Staying at the Almirante. !st time in Cartagena but looking forward to being back in Colombia. Drop a message if anyone is in town and have a cerveza on me. Later.
Hondo Lane
Cartagena is safe, that's Colombia-safe. Not Switzerland-safe. Go enjoy yourself and follow the advice jwilly gave you.
Get the Footprint Colombia Handbook. All the best advice is there. Better than Lonely Planet.
I posted a list of chica places a while back look it up if you are interested.
Get a Hotel in Bocagrande, it's safer and cheaper. Get Las Velas, the staff is used to seeing men with obvious rent-a-girls.A thing I learned a long time ago. Don't make too much noise when you are making love. People are trying to sleep.
Leave the passport at the safe at the hotel, you don't want to lose it. Carry a copy of your passport in your secret pocket, you are supposed to carry I.D. on you.
Chances are that you'll be fine if you watch your ass and your mouth. In other words, don't fuck your girl on the balcony or in public.
Don't talk about politics with anyone. Agree with everyone on everything and do your own thing. Even if they are bad mouthing your country.
Never pay the first price that a girl quotes you. Always try to negotiate. Listen, to the penny pinching cheapstakes and pay 10 to 20 percent above what they pay for the really pretty girls.
Are you a sex tourist? Try to be also a regular tourist. Call the five star hotels and see if you can join one of their tours. Do you know Spanish? Learn as much as you can beyond the sex words and cantina words.
I always give the guy at the hotel desk a small tip on my way out on the girl hunt. I don't tip them in front of the girl. These guys are there for my protection and I need them happy to see me.
If you go to restaurants, wear long pants and a nice shirt and shoes. Try not to show the world that you are consorting with prostitutes. There are families around and they don't like to see that. It's about traveling sensibly.
Previously, the girly bars used to be located inside the old city. The reason why they were forced out was that increase in sex tourists. I know this because I asked the locals about it.
Carry small coins in your pockets and give them to beggars that approach you. They are not like New York beggars, they are the real deal. They are called disposable people.
Just read the Footprint Colombia Handbook and then ask more specific questions.
When I travel I carry a few extra toothbrushes and traveler's toothpaste to give to the girl. I also buy at the local pharmacy a nice, fruty liquid soap. I want the girl nicely showered and minty fresh.
Hello board room fellow pooners.
There is alot of very good info on here, except no one really has touched on the prices one has to pay. If I have a nice apartment or hotelroom and find a girl to stay with me for a week or two what would be the cost? I'm not cheap charlie but if a girl stays long term i would treat her well. I'm older and not one to go clubbing for a different girl every night. But I do like quality stunner 20/30 years old. Please post prices when giving reports.
Good luck and happy punting to all.
Ferolga's advice is excellent.
I was 5 days in Cartagena. Read my previous post.
I was stopped late at night by a military patrol near La Perla Casino. He asked a question. I replied in very limited Spanish and sign language. No problem. He didn't even ask for ID. I carried photocopy of my passport. His buddies in the van smiled to me as I walked away.
I walked past the naval hospital with armed guards. I said hello and they replied.
During the day, you can wear t-shirts and shorts as the locals do also in Bocagrande. Anywhere else, wear long pants and dress nice in the evening. You'll get respect from everyone and you may get an evening to remember. Politeness and smiles goes a long way.
One afternoon around lunch time, I walked the beach towards the Hilton’s private beach with beachside luncheonette with offerings around US$10.-. Was able to enter their outdoor pool area crowded with young and old. It looked like Miami during summer vacation. Waiters running around serving guests. It was easy to blend in. After about 10 min. observation, I left. Had lunch under a palm tree. A woman had a wok frying those corn meal patties (pita bread size) called arepa de huevo with some meat, cheese and egg inside. 2 for 3000 pesos, $1.15.
For dinner, there are many restaurants in the Bocagrande area serving national and intern’l cuisine. I had a steak, fries, a little salad and a beer for about $6.- the night I was alone. BTW, LDV was closed that night. While out with my date, we ate much nicer and much more expensive. One night 2 course fish, another night 2 course meat. Approx. $30-45.
On the beach try a delicious fruit plate enough for lunch with watermelon, melon, mango, papaya and other local fruit for only $1.50. Extremely refreshing in the heat. The english speaking beer stand owners will approach asking if you need anything from a beer, 2-3000 pesos to a beautiful girl (in their opinion). I took the beers but not the girl as I already had my non-pro.
Some taxi drivers will try to overcharge late at night. Its equivalent to 50 cents-2 dollars. It isn't worth the discussion. A half hour ride for US$6. Exact same trip following night $4.50. Otherwise ask first.
I gave coins to many invalids which you'll see. They'll give a big smile and thanks. Give. You can afford it.
The doorman where I stayed asked for 1000 pesos one night. That's a 40 cent tip. You have to smile.
I'm going back for 18 days.
So I've finally decided to go down South (America). A huge question of mine is the manner in which Black Americans are treated, namely in Colombia. Having mongered in many Asian countries, I have run into an occasional problem. So before heading to Colombia, what's the 411 on treatment of Black Americans? Certainly anyone can respond, but it would be great to hear firsthand accounts from a brother.
Red Cork,
You can deals there for week long girls. Just buy them stuff like they are yours to take care of and they will treat you really well.
As far as baseline prices you can a get a girl off the beach in the day for 25 bucks and in the club for 40 and up this is for short time but you can convert her into your desires and buy her nice dresses and perfumes and dinners and stuff.
After reading expat's review, I am now familiar and educated on the price of a taxi ride and how much to tip a door man. All good info. But what about the real reason for this board and web site?
How much for the chica's? Maybe we should go to the world taxi guide board and then we will get the info and the ho's.
Red cork.
Answers to your questions ST are found in the archives on this thread. LT is your ability to negotiate.
My woman was non-pro. Therefore cost for nice dinners, some dancing with non-alcoholic drinks, taxi fares and an inexpensive gift.
I treated her like a GF and she treated me like a BF. Couldn't ask for anything better. Some dreams come true.
Red Cork,
I did a forum search on you because I recognized your handle from the Thailand and Philippine boards, and, as I suspected, you have contributed absolutely nothing to WSG. No trip reports, nothing. Just lots of posts asking questions. So who are you to criticize NYC Expat?
Its true that Cartagena is short on reports that really lay out the city and give a feel for it. About fifty percent of the 'reports' are actually photos. Not to worry, Slick1 and myself will arrive in Cartagena tomorrow for a weeks vacation and will deliver reports on matters of import, such as humping, hotels, food, and general impressions of the city.
Don
All,
I was in cartagena about 7 years ago. I made several trips there with the navy. Good town, good food, good women. I would love to go back. The town is safe but don't put yourself in a sitution where you will get yourself in trouble. We used to call the ***** houses the "beatem down house" so the taxi cab drivers after our first visit everytime they saw one of us they would say "beatem down house". They took us to a lot of houses. If you speak spanish they can take you to whatever kind of girl you want. Be safe and hopefully I can return for some much needed fun.
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Hey Red Cork, probably the best way for you to enjoy Cartagena would be this.
Go there with your attitude and insult the local people. Call the women *****s and tell anybody to "Fuck Off" that bothers you. After all you are superior to them because you have money.
Mr. Red Cork ... the price of chicas, especially longer term. actually, believe it or not depends on if they like you or not ... especially the hotties.
Can you speak Spanish? Are you nice or a jerk? Are you good in the sack? Yes, this does matter.
Believe it or not, these chicas, even the pros are real people with feelings ... if you can dazzle them with a little kindness, it goes a long way.
Prices in the LDV can go from 60,000 to 250,000 pesos for all night ... depending on the quality of the chica, how busy it is and if you can make them laugh, i.e. ... make them like you a bit.
Trust me, if a 'hot' chica doesn't like you, she'll move on to better ... unless you offer her ridiculous money.
Suerte ... and be nice
Dear Slick1 and Dashing Don,
Just to let you know your not the only dons in town, I'll be there on the 6th of May. I'd love to have a free beer, don't know where I'm staying yet, but I give your hotel a ring.
Sinceramente,
Don
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Dear fellow Mongers,
I will be coming to Cartagena in mid-June for about 2 1/2 months, while I have an enormous sexual appetite, mongering is never my main agenda when I embark on a new adventure.
Truth Be Told, I was only with 3 prostitutes prior to the age of 25 when I took my first trip to China. While in China for about one year and a half I only engaged about 10 different women in pay for play out of more than 250 women that I shared souls with. Last year at the age of 28 I went to Indonesia (Bali to be precise) where pay for play was offered to me extensively and in 62 days I was with about 32 pay for play's. After discovering this web site accidentally, looking for information on a Latin American adventure, I have been with about 40 pay for play women in the United States and Canada in the last four months. That is only a total of about 85 pay for play women out of around 700 women that I have had the delight of soul sharing with.
Getting more to the point, my first goal when arriving in my new adventurous destination is to learn the language. Second would be to absorb the culture, economy, and geographical layout. Third would be to have as much adventurous fun as possible, which always will include women.
To achieve my first goal and half of the second, I have found that it is advantageous to take on a new name in the same language you are learning.
In China - I am known as "Cao Cao" Famous Prime Minister
In Indonesia - I am known as "Gajah Mada" Famous Prime Minister
For Latin America I am toying with two different names that I would like your opinion on, Simon Bolivar or Che Guevara.
I don't choose these names out of arrogance alone, but more to prove to the people that I care about their history and their country enough to know who these people are.
Any comments are welcome.
Happy mongering,
Master Monger
In regards to how blacks are treated in Cartagena (this is coming from a brownskin puerto rican) bro, 70% of the people in the coastal cities are brown. This includes C/gena, B/quilla and Santa Marta. I have been traveling to those cities and others for about 7 yrs. I HAVE NEVER EXPERIENCED ANY RACIAL PROBLEMS. Now I have met women who prefer brothers and some who prefer whites. But most I have met (the non-pro type) would just like a man who treats them like a lady!
I went to Medellin and Bogota a few years ago and I had just as much play in those cities as I do in the coastal cities. Hit me up via PM and I'll share some personal stories with you.
Vallenato aka El Negrito
Harold Rivera El Nuevo Rey Vallenato
NC EXPat
This is the most idiotic bleeding heart attitude I hear from people,
"I gave coins to many invalids which you'll see. They'll give a big smile and thanks. Give. You can afford it."
It is not a question about whether you can "afford it" it is a question about whether you want a legion of beggars to hound you all around wherever you, and the next tourist goes.
Try a trip to the Philippines, EX Pat. You can afford to give money to everyone you see. They all claim some good reason for not working, sleeping all day and sending their women out to work.
The last time I saw one of these "invalids" along a freeway exit in US near my home with a sign saying "Hungry will work for food" I said, "Get in I have some bushes you can cut down." He replied, "Do you think I want to work like a Ni**er? I make more money than you do here on this corner!"
Just like overpaying prostitutes. You can afford to do it, but you leave a bad attitude for the next guy who expects a reasonable price.
for Master Monger ...
To each his own ... but it seems to me you make this mongering / adventuring too complicated.
I just travel and meet people along the way ... both chicas and hombres.
Enjoy yourself, respect and learn from others and your first two stated goals will happen automatically ... the language part might take some studying though ... though practice is the best way to learn.
As far as your different names for different regions / countries ... again, to each their own but I find the locals appreciate it when you give your real name.
Do you expect foreign travelers to use made up names when they visit your country?
Using Simon Bolivar down in Colombia / Venezuela would be like a Venezuelan visiting the USA and using George Washington as his name ... I don't think the locals will think you are cool or sophisticated for calling yourself Simon Bolivar ... maybe a little loco.
I do have to say at least you are trying to be a respectful guest of the country ... your methods just seem odd to me but I am no expert ... all I voice is my humble opinion and I do live in Colombia.
Good luck to you Simon.
Master Monger,
No offense...but that is the single most moronic question that I have ever seen asked on WSG.
DfB
Dear Ricker,
My real name is Travis, a name that I realized early on in China was not only very difficult for them to pronounce but almost impossible to remember. So I chose a Chinese name but since I had the option to choose my name I decided to choose a really cool name. The famous name that I chose in China and in Indonesia were smashing successes with about 80% of the people. Even the other 20% who didn't quite care for the name that I chose still found it incredibly difficult to not smile every time they saw me and I guarantee you no one ever forgets me after they meet me the first time. I think a smile is probably the best reaction that you can get out of anyone when you first acquaint yourselves with them, even if it is because they may think your a fool. It's kind of like using brand recognition advertising in personal human relations. I think the name Che Guevara sounds cooler but I fear he may be too controversial. I'm 99% sure I'll be going with Simon. I do thank you for your response though Ricker you are definitely an Icon on the Columbia board and I hope you'll allow me to buy you dinner sometime.
As for DICK for brains,
Do you really think I could be offended by anything said by someone who has a self chosen name of "Dick for brains"... exactly!
Happy mongering,
Simon Bolivar
Hey Master Monger,
You should go with Che Guevarra, even though he really didn't have anything to do with Colombia, people know who he was. If you don't like the name Che maybe you could try, Manuel Marulanda, Alfonso Cano, Rodrigo Londono, German Briceno, Ovidio Ricardo, Efrain Guzman or Joaquin Gomez. You should also let it be known that you are associated with the FARC, this will open a lot of doors and let you see parts of Colombia most tourists never have the opportunity to visit. The country has had a civil war going for around 50 years, so, if you choose the name of a revolutionary leader then the people will really know that you respect the local customs and traditions.
NYC Expat
You got my support, big guy. Your actions, or attitude, are not idiotic.
Ferolga[a.k.a. Master of all that can be fucked or fried. ;>} ]
Dear Master Monger,
You should scrap both of those lame names and instead go by Juan Valdez! You can even have a hot pot of 100% Colombian coffee in your room for the prostitutes. When you drop your drawers tell them that they get the honor of riding Juan's donkey.
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Sir Charles!
First of all I have to say to the board thanks for all the research done all Colombia and all the other places.
Black man here! I was in Cartagena from 04/2704 to 05/02/04 I'm a 41 year light skin black guy with green eyes! Not sure if my point of view is the best one, because they considered me white, go figure.
However I was there with my 25 year old nephew and some college buddy's of his and there was no mistaking that they where BLACK.
To answer your question, the place is absolutamente black male friendly, half the natives there tought we where from Bogota, I guess because when we spoke in our limted espanol we have a Bogota accent. The other half thought we where in the Navy.
Stayed in the Laquito area in an apartment down the street from the Hilton, right on the beach, price per night $50 usd.
First night there order some room service. 5'2" very yummy looking, but could not handle Maxnum size. Price 120k I know way to much.
My Nephew and his friends arrive, from Margarita Island around 10pm, we head out to LDV. Thanks to this board I knew like all of my other trips, I would feel like a kid in a candy shop! LDV wall to wall chicas.
I had a blond light skin 5'6" around 24 or so, nice tits very nice body, price para todo la noche 100k. Sex was so so attitude so so.
Day2 Had to see the old city and worth the trip, however do not buy anything there prices are 4 times higher then other parts of the city. The old city is a must see!
Night 2 hit the Casino next to LDV, my first night there I exchanged $200 usd, and that was all I needed I won $583 that night.
After my sucess, I hit the LDV hooked up with a 23 year old brown skin beauty, great looks good attitute at the club. Overall tan tan. Price 100k.
A few years ago one of my Nephew's friends was one week away from getting married, and backed out. My hereo!
I told him for that move if he ever went on vacation with us, that I would buy him a little somethin somthin, and damn he held me to it. He had a 28 year old knock out, great personality great tits just a fun girl to hang with. Price 90k.
Day 3 Headed back to the old city, this place is absolutely breath taking, and they have good food! Did some shoping in but not at the old city.
Night 3 Back to LDV, I hook up with this 23 year old chica that lived in Houston for a few years, kick ass body great attitude, body for days. Price quoted nada.
We talked for a long time my kind of a connection so the sex was off the hook, damn as I write this, my ass is sporting a shit eatin grin from ear to ear. It is all about attitude your as well as the chicas.
Day 4 my girl comes by with 3 of her friends for me and my boys letthe party begin!
Night 4 Normal stuff took the girls out to dinner hit the club, got simi shit face, and great sex, she damn near made me cry, mas mami mas.
Charles spanish talks and english walks, so learn a little.
LDV Price 65k to 120K
Taxi 3k for a local ride.
Food 3k to 25 k
Local beer good not sure of the price.
An apartment on the beach $50 usd a night two bedroom
Racism: Did not really see that much, hard to judge compared to the states, I do know that they do not see dark skined folks with money or seeing us stay in the best part of town.
By the way I'm head back to Cartagena 05/27/04 to 05/30/04
Love my Latinas!
Master Monger ... Simon B.
... I look forward to meeting you too. I´m in Venezuela at the moment, let me know when you´re passing thru Medellin.
By the way, the currency here in Venezuela is callede Bolivares after Simon himself.
.... please, don´t call yourself Pablo Escobar in Medellin ... jejeje
Suerte!
OK mongers, a few observations on Cartagena since Slick1 and myself arrived on Wed.
The defining thing about Cartagena is not the women, its the touts. And I´m surprised that previous reports don´t dwell on it. It´s like this: you leave your hotel and within seconds are approached by someone selling sunglasse, or plastic sandals, or crabs, or pictures, or ´Cuban cigars´, or trips to here and there, or drugs, or fruit, or candy, or beads, and any other worthless piece of junk you can think of. You brush past the first guy, but the next one is coming up on you 5 seconds later. Get past him, and another one is waiting for you on the corner. Stop at the corner for the traffic to pass and meanwhile there are now three of them shouting ämigo amigo and pushing stuff under your nose, gesticulating wildly and grabbing your arm or shoulder. You break free, moving briskly, but some of them are following you. They know that deep down, you really want those 99 cent sandals. Meanwhile more of them are waiting for you up ahead. There´s no fucking escape in Cartagena. And guess what, it gets worse. When you go to the beach. More on that later.
The best part of town is Boca Grande which is where the better hotels are and is on the water. Nearby is the Old Town. These are the only parts of C that a monger will see or want to see. Naturally, this is where the touts congregate and they vastly outnumber the tourists, who, are almost entirely Colombian from other cities, from what I have seen. The hotels are high rise for the most part and if you saw a photo, it might look quite nice. But when you hit the street, well, thats when you know you´re not in Miami.
Arrivals at Cartagena airport will have all their luggage opened and examined. Everyone was subjected to this, including us gringos. Then, out of the terminal and into the throng of yelling taxi drivers. A $4 cab ride to the Hotel Almirante in Boca Grande where we were staying. No sense of fear anywhere, but there were soldiers stationed about every hundred yards along the way from the airport to Boca.
We are both paying $150 a night for a reasonable room with ocean view, couch, and barely working a/c. The weather is hot and very humid. The food in the hotel is good. Like a previous poster said, the ocean is very warm and salty and not at all refreshing.
Our first night, we went to La Dolce Vita. It starts about 11pm. Lots of beautiful girls of every different shape and color. Its basically a nice bar with music playing and a dance floor. There is no barfine or ladies drinks. The girls are freelancers. They stand around and expect you to approach them. A few approached us but mostly you have to approach them. Its 100,00 pesos for short time, about $40. Slick and I made our selections after about an hour and left for the hotel. The Almirante told that the girls had to be out by 5am. Other people have told us that this is the norm at the other hotels too.
Next day: the beach.
The beach is across from the hotel. By the time I got there the next morning, Slick1, who was already there, had acquired a reputation for generosity with the touts. He had bought beads. Had had a manicure. A massage and pedicure. And had purchased drinks. He had also tipped generously. It could be said of Slick that he never met a tout he didn´t like. By the time I arrived, a swarm of touts surrounded the cabana. Some had missed out on Slick´s generosity and focused on me. Big, fat, black women who referred to themselves as ´negritas´were determined to give me a massage. Basically, they carry around a small plastic bucket filled with some kind of goo and will harass you for 10 minutes at a time to get you to acquiesce to a greasy massage. They tout their blackness as ´proof´of their prowess. When they take a break, the sunglass guys jump in. Followed by the guys selling crabs. You can fight and fight, but there´s always another tout coming. The most relentless, however, are the massage ladies. There´s no escape because you are stationery. They just keep coming at you. I´ve been on the beach in Havana and Rio, but never saw anything like this. At one point, a ´band´came by. A bunch of toothless old guys playing an accordion, a drum and some other thing that makes a scratching noise. For fifteen minutes we explained that we were not interested, to no avail. Suddenly, they started singing and playing. Awful shit. Anyway, when it was over, about ten minutes later, of course we were óbligated to contribute. I tell you, you can´t beat these guys. And just when you think the worst is over, they send in the cripples. Yeah! Thats right. First a wheelchair with a guy with MS followed by an amputee. As I closed my eyes to block this out, Slick reached for his wallet.
Thursday night, we went to the old town which is spactacular in its size and for how well maintained it is. On that night, we ate in the main plaza, Plaza Santo Domingo. It was very nice and the food was good. After, we walked some of the nearby streets. While fighting off the inevitable touts, I saw Isabel, an 18 yo visiting C for a few days. She was spectaculary beautiful and sexy in her manner and walk, as are many of the Colombian women. Femininity is a virtue here, unlike the states. Anyway, I approached her and we spoke briefly. After a few minutes of talk, both her and her friend accompanied us to a bar and later to the hotel. These were not pros, just ordinary girls from the provinces. Problem was that Isabel didn´t have her ID and try as I might, the hotel would not let her up to my room.
The next day, we all met up and I rented a room just for the Isabel and I at a hotel across from the Almirante for $40 for the night. Its been a long time since I enjoyed the fruits of an 18 yo regular girl and it was great. She returned to the province on Saturday morning.
I can´t write anymore. I´m tired, but will continue later. Warning! Cartagena is not for the monger who is by himself. The touts will finish him off. If you are with someone else, you have a better chance.
More later,
Don
DashingDon: Even the RACK RATE at Almirante is nowhere near $150 per night, ESPECIALLY during the "low season" which started in mid April (just afer Semana Santa). If you book it through a Colombian travel agent, it is less than half of what you are paying. 100K should be OVERNIGHT rate from LDV if you negotiate a little (preferably in Spanish) and the girl likes you.
Agree with you that the touts are quite annoying, but if you go to beaches away from Bocagrande it is MUCH less offensive. Also, IGNORING them is the best response (wearing a walkman even better). If you acknowledge them you embolden them.
Disagree with you that Bocagrande is the "best" part of town. Also, the "best hotels" are NOT in Bocagrande: THE best is the Sofitel (Old City), plus there is a second hotel in the old city plus the Hilton in Laguito that are better than ANYTHING in Bocagrande. Further, the old city is where ALL of the charm is. Bocagrande is like Miami Beach (but with a MUCH lousier beach and tons of touts!).
I met up with Dashing and Slickone at there hotel in bocagrande on friday. they baught me a couple of drinks and a buffee, thanks guys, and we met up with those girls he mentioned, they seemed nice but Im not sure about their story they were selling. "just a couple of country girls." I went to the bathroom and those guys were gone so I went down the street looking for the Chiva de Rumba, Bus Party, I saw earlier but it had left so I ask a guy standing on the street where it went and he proceed to pawn a cute but obviously hardened chick from medellin on me ,a blond haired freckled girl, who I was attracted to simple for the change of pace. She looked like a girl next door in my home town. we took a taxy met up with a diffent bus, not the one I saw leave with a 12 hot chicks, but it was all locals and loud music and rum but unfortunately the girl was one of those latin chicks that hate salsa music and there own culture so it was ruining the night for me when she refuse to dance and quoted me 100,000 for two hours I sent here home with cab fare from the dance club. My advice is to take the chiva de rumba bus for 4$ with a bottle of rum and a bottle of coke but leave the street girl alone.
Best of luck,
Don
Dashing Don
Great report. I was feeling persecuted by touts just reading it.
When I was in Cartagena, sometimes I had to yell at the touts, "No quiero nada!" [I don't want anything!]
They are like spammers. They will never give up.
Ferolga
Ferolga: Trying saying "no tengo plata" and if you are persuasive they'll disappear in a hurry. Or tell them you'd LOVE to buy a fake Rolex IF they will extend you credit!
All this about the touts is making me reconsider visiting Cartegena this December. Is it really worth going there for (a) mongering and (b) general tourism ?
My plans are: London - Cartegena - Buenos Aires. I have already been to BsAs and since I heard so much about the Columbian chicas, I figured it is worth visiting. Are the touts bad enough to put people off visiting?
Vallenato, Latina Passion, et al:
Props to you for giving me the lowdown on the CTG scene for brothers. Needless to say, thanks to your response my friend and I will be there in June tappin' that ass.
Thanks again,
Chas.
ferolga777
Thanks for the support.
Npaul
You have the wrong attitude. The ”invalids” I gave to were amputees, not street beggars you saw in Asia or see in major cities. I was NOT hounded after giving change on the street to a wheelchair invalid without legs nor hounded on the beach giving change to an invalid carrying a sack between his arms because both hands were amputated above the wrist. Nor was I hounded when I bought ice cream for four while on the beach. Nor was I hounded buying a fruit plate for a teenage girl while on the beach. If you can’t accept their culture, go somewhere else.
The touts
Just say no gracias firmly and they will disappear. There are many of them. Unemployment is high. They have to make a living. Ignore them. Don’t make eye contact. Continue walking and generally speaking you won’t have problems. If you’re under a cabana, you will be approached. Just say no.
Try the beaches around El Laguito towards the Hilton. Just a few min. walking from the main Bocagrande beach. Much more peaceful there, but accept the fact there are fewer women whom you can meet. I recommend single men visiting CTG.
Gentlemongers,
Maybe I look like Rockefeller, but I don´t think so. Anyways, the touts don´t take no for an answer. They will follow you, sometimes for blocks. Good advice from the poster who said not to make eye contact. I´ve started to wear sunglasses to avoid this.
We´ve subsequently moved to the Hilton which is in Boca Grande/Laguito. I won´t parse words here: we´re talking about 4 avenues by 20 streets for the entire area. I don´t know or care where one begins or ends. And it/these ARE the best areas in town.
We´re paying $110 a night at the Hilton, excluding breakfast. Internet is $9 per hour. No water provided in the room: its about $1.50 a bottle. $1.25 initial fee to make an outside call even when using a calling card. The girls are allowed in after 11pm but you have to pay 60000 pesos ($25) for them. The ac works well here, unlike the Almirante, where it barely worked.
Due to the proliferation of cheap imitations in C I was understandably wary when I received a call from ´The Don´, but he turned out to be a nice guy and well travelled. We hung out one night but got unexpectedly split up at the Almirante.
Now to the girls:
Cartagena has a large black population but the girls in LDV seem mostly from Medellin and are lighter in complexion. I´m told that other cities like Cali and Medellin have little or no black population. Honestly, the girls here in C are awesome and readily approachable anywhere.
We have been again to LDV last night (Sun) and took some beauties back to the Hilton. Mine wanted 200000 pesos (85 us approx ) but I gave her 150000, about 60us for all night. Beautiful, long jet black hair and BBJ etc. Great experience. It was only our second time to LDV and I highly recommend this place. In fact, its probably the only place to go. A couple of days ago, we went to Bosque, a distant area to see the Playboy club. With this club, you do it on the premises. We also went next door to the ´salon´ where you fuck in a filthy room on premises. After that, we decided to stick to LDV and back to the hotel. To be fair, neither Slick or I checked the rooms at the Playboy club: he took his back to the Almirante and I had had my fill next door (El Navegante) which I don´t recommend. Knowing what I know now, I would stay at the Hilton, frequent LDV every night, which are within a few blocks of each other and then, try to pick up some regular girls, if you have the energy.
More later,
Don
Quick response to the Dashing One´s post
The touts here are like swarming gnats, annoying as hell but generally harmless and just trying to eek out a living in a very difficult situation. Sure I have succumbed to some of the relentless pressure but what the hell I look pretty cool in those beads from Baru and my skin is silky smooth and tan from that slimy green goop massage. Meanwhile Dashing Don is as red as those smelly crabs being sold as a quick snack and surefire case of botulism.
The girls at LDV and Pleyboy are hot and the odds are stacked heavily in the tourists favor. For roughly 40 US a session I have never even tryed bargaining for a lower price and have been satisfied with the service. I will post more later on my home PC. Out of time now.
Don,
It sounds like you have a lot of complaints about my (adopted) city! Should I take it, that you won't be back?
Many of the so-called beggers and/or vendors are similar to the beggers or vendors in the US tourist cities. Shit, urban city corners now have somebody begging for a handout, wash your windows or selling some type of flowers. Maybe where you are from, this is not common. Whatever!
Vallenato (the music you heard on the beach)
aka "El Negrito Lindo"
Why would you stay at a hotel in Cartagena that costs over $100 per night?
Why not rent a nice condo for $30 night right across from LDV with no rules for when the chicas can come and go?
Also ... the touts ... they're the reason I can only take Cartagena for about 3 days at most. I generally get along with everyone but these guys ... after a few days of relentless rudeness ... Gotta go somewhere else.
Suerte!
Ricker,
Do you have a contact number or address for these apartments?
Thanks in advance,
Happy C
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Dear mongers,
There is a building called el Conquistador (57 5 665 0006) across the street from the Hilton where you can rent a nice fully furnished suite for 75,000 a night, less than 30 dollars a night. I havent tried this number or stay in a suite myself but it was in the telephone book and a banker friend from bogata was staying there at this price. Some of the girls live there in the lower level apartments. there you can bring in who you want when you want without the ussual hassle.
I payed 60$ at Playboys for a poor performance by Maria Lorain, a girl of true playboy preportions, but she was horrible in the sack, and has a really ugly nose. The rooms werent that bad and the drinks were realatively cheap, 5000 and 7000 for the girls and they didn't drink them down like shots or ask you to buy them one. The guys that worked there talk to me and were really nice ,although I did pay way too much by the sounds of it.
Good luck
the Don
Call Mery at 575-655-0384. She's a cool lady ... speaks spanish and english.
Also her e-mail is:
oficerna@yahoo.com.
Suerte!
Hmmmm !
Insufferable touts, expensive hotels - the chicas will need to be really hot to make it all worthwhile.
The best chicas I have seen were in Rio with Buenos Aires a close second. Would any of the well travelled mongers care to make a recommendation if it is really worth going to CTG (over other places) ?
I like a bit of adventure and see new places but what would a dedicated monger (I am not one) make of this place ?
Cheers.
Sir Charles,
Trust me on this rent an apartment, it is a hell of alot cheaper, with less hasels.
I'm just now getting aquatinted to the forum so PM me for more info.
Dude when ever we hit a new spot we try to become ambassadors for the U.S. and bros.
Hell if I know what it is but I have been to a dozen countries and evey single time they are affraid of us! LOL! Whatever!
Sir: One thing that I absolutely agree with is do not over pay! Ldv club 60k to 100k para todo la noche. For all night long!
Damn I swear some of the Chicas will make you want to break the bank!
I asked one my pro chica who pays the most? Hands down she told me us Americans!
I talked to one American, and he told me no more then 40k, hell I guess espanol goes a long ass way! He told me tha the average Colombian only makes 25k a day that is less then $10 USD.
Sir: the absolute best info you will find right here on the Forum!
Hit me up and I will hook you up, when igot to Cartagena I paid $35 USD for a taxi ( F all of you guys OK) on my way back to the airport I paid $4 USD, what can I say live and learn!
Just got back from CTG.
My impressions are entirely my own and feel free to agree or disagree.
I did have an enjoyable time but I really was not all that impressed with CTG. For me the true value of a trip to Colombia is the interaction with its people and CTG was no different, however this city is geared to the tourist industry and I felt the social interactions suffered, as they mostly revolved around how best to separate me from my money.
Much has been written lately about the touts and there does not appear to be a need for me to elaborate much further. I actually was quite pleased with the switch to the Hilton because its nice pool area gave one a much needed respite from the swarming herds of junk peddlers. I probably wouldn't mind so much if there was just some variety to the wares they peddled but to be constantly bombarded with cheap sunglasses, beads and tee shirts is too much. And those damn massage beasts don't know how to take no for an answer. One kudo, the old black women selling the mostly coconut desserts should get your peso. They are good.
If you choose a condo try to get one with a nice pool if they have them, because you to may find the beach way too annoying. There were times the police would crack down but that usually only lasted an hour. Maybe in High season there are enough tourists to deflect some of the swarm but I have a feeling the number of touts rises exponentially with the number of tourists.
I have heard much about how beautiful CTG is and I was not impressed in that regard . The old city is nice to walk around and dine in the plazas but there really is not much to do. There is a nicely restored pedestrian only colonial section of city and the rest of Centro ciudad is just a much more rundown version of the restored area. Hey it's nice, but I was not overwhelmed by a sense of beauty.
I realize now that this had to be the low season and perhaps in Jan. or Dec. things are vastly different. To answer Jack Daniels question, from my perspective there is no comparison in comparing BA with CTG. BA has it beat hands down in beauty but I will admit it is a rather unfair comparison.
From my perspective CTG was quite rundown and appeared to be decaying rather than on the restorative rise. There are a couple decent hotels but don't equate a 5 star hotel in the USA or EUR. with a 5 star one in CTG. The Almirante claimed to be 5 stars and really would deserve no more than 2.5 to 3. Had to get out due to the extreme inefficiancy of its air conditioning system. With the heat and humidity of CTG the lack of a proper cooling system can have you smelling quite mildewey in no time. The nights however were very nice and breezy.
Restaurants we ate in were all decent with good service but I would venture to guess this is one of the more pricey Colombian cities. I had better and cheaper meals in Cali, but cheap and good can be found here as well. Good selection of seafood but I would recommend shying away from the oysters and crabs being peddled on the beach. I couldn't believe I saw some tourists slurrping down the uniced, unrefrigerated mollusks, but it looked too dangerous for me.
What else...
Oh yeah, Girls.
Not the abundant bikini clad throng that I expected . In fact the beach was almost devoid of all women except the Massagista beastas. I know its the low season but I truly expected more. Dec. or Jan is probably vastly different, I would hope so. Hotel pools, the same sad story. A couple cute wives or girlfriends but no singles. We did head downtown and chatted up quite a few local honeys, but Bocagrande was a bust. In terms of local talent, my good buddy Dashing Don was very impressed but then again this was his first foray into Col. and he hasn't been to Cali. I have. Nowhere near the talent of Cali and I suspect Medellin. Actually most all of the hottest women in LDV and Pleyboy were paisas de Medellin.
The clubs. Only hit 2, LDV and Pleyboy. The girls are hot and for about 40 bucks you can't go wrong. I suspect there are quite a few more during high season but a lot more tourist competition. For me there was enough to choose from. Very few gringos to start a bidding war and I pretty much got the same 100,000 peso opening short time bid from all. A couple stayed all night and I suspect my bed was a lot better to sleep on and the shower more private. Many of these girls share rooms at very cheap hotels and appreciate the added luxury. Now I don't want to spoil any of your dreams that they choose to stay due to your sexual prowess, little gifts, or stunning looks but our living conditions are a treat for them as well.
One girl did tell me of a gringo that kept her 5 days and nights and only gave her 60k pesos. Bargain if you like but don't be a cheap scumbag. These girls are feeding themselves and usually others at home. I took one to her 20k peso a night hotel just so she could change clothes because she did not have proper ID to go up in my hotel. Not a pretty site and I felt quite sad for this cute, vivacious 18 year old that basically lived her life out of a small knapsack. Anyway, plenty of girls for my taste and you have a lot of time to choose this time of year. Not likely another tourist will walk in and steal her away, but hey, let her make some money too.
Only met one girl with a bad attitude and this showed before leaving . Said no thanks and went back and chose another. One thing I liked as well was that the girls were not overly aggressive and generally did their flirting from a distance. They respected your privacy until waved over. At that point they wound bound over with a smile. Ya gotta love these girls and Jack Daniels, in this regard Colombia has BA beat hands down. I don't know what it is but the Colombianas have such a joy for life. They have nothing, but don't let it affect their attitudes. Smiling , singing, dancing, these girls blow away the portenas. As well these women have some curves and are oh so feminine. Number one in my book, but you got to meet them at home, not after they have been exposed to the scummy outside world in places such as Costa Rica.
Anything else.
Taxis, cheap, abundant, but will try to tack on a couple extra thous. pesos if you let them.
Safety, no problem in that regard but be smart. My girl and I did get in a taxi one night in the Old city as Dashing Don headed off for a moonlit stroll along the sea. When our cabbie realized the Dashing one was heading for a walk he pulled a u turn and told him to get in the cab. Too dangerous to walk from the old town back to Bocagrande at night. Play it safe.
Big military and police presence in this city but don't push the envelope. Desperation breeds danger. At other times, we walked everywhere.
One last tip that I wish I knew from day one. Generally the hotel gyms were decent, but on my last night my taxi stopped at an ATM for me right next to a big gym. Body Tech its called. Oh my God the girls heading in there after work were the hottest in the city. Looks like a good gym too so go get a short time membership and sweat and stare.
I look forward to another return to Colombia. Probably not CTG for me, but others shouldn't be dettered. Maybe some of the more experienced CTG travellers can fill us in on the best time to be there.
Later
Good post Slick and I agree with almost everything you wrote. Aircon was fine when I had stayed at Almirante a year ago (perhaps they reduced strength to save electricity costs) though I carry a battery powered fan to supplement vAC (or for brownouts). I also walked with a chica from Ciudad Vieja part way towards BocaGrande; on a busy night and staying near the main road I felt safe. Nonetheless, the taxi drivers concern for DD was likely warranted.
My main point of disagreement with you is where you state that the chicas in Cali are better than in CTG. CTG attracts some of the best chicas from all over the country because it is the ONLY place where foreigners congregate (outside Bogota's Zona Rosa). Plus NOBODY speaks English in Cali (except marriage agencies and SOME of the girls on THEIR lists) and it is MANY TIMES more dangerous than the worst parts of Cartagena (e.g. Getsumani or the barrios in Zona Sur). Add to that the fact that there is no beach and way LESS "to do" for a visitor than in CTG and IMHO people would find Cali disappointing despite its reputation for sexy women (which I cannot deny).
Guys need info,
Are Mercy's apartments worth renting? What part of the city are they located I'm looking for a place right on the beach this time in, the center of the action.
I'll be back in Cartagena in two weeks, she wants $40 a night good deal or what?
Thanks in advance,
Steve!
Slick1
Thank you for your post - really well written and candid. Looks like the city is no great shakes but the clubs are ! It is great to meet chicas with the joie de vivre. Sounds like it is worth visiting to see Colombianas in situ, though I note Surfers' comments - CTG seems to a focal point for out of town chicas.
I think I will visit CTG (and brave the touts), if only because it is there. I will go for 3 nights and then move on.
Cheers.
First, I welcome the more thoughtful, insightful, posts from Surfer and Jack, whether I agree with them or not. Its hard to put all one's trip experiences into a report. It often takes the 'cut and thrust' of the ensuing posts to crystallize the issues.
Mongering in Cartagena:
In a desperately poor city like Cartagena, mongering is almost unnecessary. Just like the Philippines, the locals are interested in YOU, the western caucasian. There is little tourism in these countries, thus, their interest is magnified. Most would like to emigrate: another reason why the female population will want to get to know you. The Colombians are hot and have no hangups about sex that I can see--another reason why its easy to bed a non pro. The only constraints are time. If you get horny at 3pm, what else can you do but head to a daytime casa. This I understand. I only mention all this so that a monger, no matter what age, should keep in mind that he can meet a young girl, make her laugh, take her to a nice restaurant and bed her in a short space of time, and everyone will be happy. I know because it happened to me, and I'm 46. If you are going to spend more than a week in Colombia, you won't need the pros. As you know, there is little or no chance of this happening during your visit to Zurich, Los Angeles or Stockholm.
Cali vs Cartagena:
I haven't been to Cali but am told that the racial makeup is different, ie there is little or no black population. Thus there no touts and a monger can move around without getting harassed. Cartagena has a large black population and they appear to be at the bottom of the economic ladder and thus the tout problem.
Personally, I love the water and always look for a beach destination. In that regard, CTG is a disappointment. The water is hot and salty, unlike anyother place I've been. The sand is dark and the touts abound. Best forget about going for the beach.
Regards the best girls from Colombia heading to CTG to meet you. Not true. HOOKERS from Medellin and elsewhere will go to CTG, but thats no indication of their attractiveness.
Don
Surfer
I wouldn't argue with your assesment that some of the best girls head to CTG. It just wasn't happening this past week. I did speak with our cabana guy who stated that in Dec and Jan. they virtually fill up the beach with cabanas and chairs for rent and that if your late you won't get one. This past week each cabana group never even set up more than 10 cabanas. The girls and for that matter, any tourists, just weren't there. When I spoke of the girls in Cartagena I mainly was refering to the local population rather than the imported nationals. My impression was that from a stroll down the city street or shopping venues, there was a noticable drop in chica talent from Cali to CTG. I would venture to say that you probably are right on that when the season in CTG is peaking and the MED. and Cali girls head north, it is quite a collection of beauties.
Forgot to add. Read elsewhere of this guy on the beach known as Tony the Tout or Tony number 1. Chica supplier and cabana salesman. Just walk down toward Hotel Las Velas and he will certainly spot any gringo and come running. Avoid this piece of garbage at any cost. He is a real scheister and very impressed with himself for being mentioned on the internet. You don't need this guy to get you girls.
Don: Cali DOES have a sizeable Black population, but race has nothing to do with the absence (or presence) of touts. Touts go where foreigners go (i.e. to CTG, NOT to CLO or MDE), period.
I DO agree with you that the beach (and water) in CTG are VERY soso, though there are nice beaches with clean water outside the city (like Playa Blanca or towards Barranquilla).
Slick: Seasonality DOES matter. My last trip (during the Miss Colombia pageant in November) was overwhelming. This trip (was there last week of April) was MUCH quiter with les chicas.
Regarding Tony, while I NEVER will buy ANYTHING from him, he DOES deliver the best chicas for daytime action bar none. But negotiate IN ADVANCE about EVERYTHING (I stand or walk despite his INCESSANT requests that I use one of his chairs). And the girl must pay him a commission so do NOT agree to pay him ANYTHING for finding you a girl.
Dashing Don,
Cali has a sizeable black population. Take a trip to South Cali when you visit there one day. Also every casa I visited in Cali last year had atleast 3-4 black Calenas.
Later!
Surfer:
Thanks, for your understanding that people are people, no matter what the shade of their skin is.
Guys, lo siento, but I feel that there are two races. The human race and the rat race!
I belong to the human race, no matter the color of my skin or the color of my eyes, we are all basically the same inside and out!
The one thing that really seperates the man that has and the man that has nada, is not the color of his skin!
That seperation is mainly due to one thing, Education or lack there of!
One of the first things that I tell another person from a different countries, is that he is no better then me, and I'm no better then him. In my book we are all equal, the fact that I'm an American is a mere accident of birth!
Sorry guys, for my little commentary.
I'd like to thank the recent posters for their homilies on equality of the races and all that, but I am unmoved. You see, its my duty to report the city as I see it, not as how the Cartagena board 'residents' push it. Just the truth. No more, no less.
Again, Cartagena has a large black population that is poor, and hustling for a living. You can't avoid them. Readers who are mostly caucasian and are huddled around their computers in living rooms in suburbs of American cities and contemplating a visit to Colombia, should know this. They should know what they are in for before they spend time and money on a trip to Cartagena.
To the equality merchants, this: I'm caucasian and married to a dark Latina. We have two beautiful kids. Therefore, you ask, do I believe in equality of the races? Answer: I'm too busy banging anything that is female and atrractive of ANY race to pay any attention to this horseshit.
Often, in a restaurant or somesuch, my wife and I receive better than average treatment if the maitre'd or whatever is black. Obviously they approve of our mixed marriage and probably think I'm cool. Bullshit! My old lady is hot and we're together because, among other things, I had to bang her. She knows this and we have a good laugh about it. Then we give the guy a good tip and thats it.
Don
Um, "large Black population" sounds like a great place to experience real-ideal women! Sick of all the poor Dogs in Russia husling for a living.
I understand what Dashing Don is saying. Sadly the racial composition of many societies is similar to the socio economic structure. We kind of accept socio-economic inequalities but we really do not accept racial inequality. In other words, it is easier to accept if the touts were of all colours and the wealthy were of all colours than if the touts were all black and the wealthy were all white. Sadly again, we are likely to see more of the latter than the former in many parts of the world.
Just my 2 cents.
I look forward to seeing CTG for myself later in the year.
Anyone in CTG 5/21-5/26? PM me will love to check out the LDV with people of same mongering interests!
Max
Don: I am NOT suggesting that your post was racist. Rather, I was merely CORRECTING two of your erroneous assumptions: 1, that Cali does not have a large Black population and 2) that poverty is the root cause of the pervasive touts in CTG. With all due respect, I know Colombia MUCH better than you do and I KNOW where there are touts and where they are not. Touts go where foreign tourists go, PERIOD. There are NO OTHER FACTORS, get it? Cartagena, because of the tourism industry, is MUCH wealthier than Cali, yet in 5 trips to Cali I have NEVER seen a single tout. IF there are any, they will be encamped outside gringo central AKA Hotel Inter (which I avoid like the plague despite its lovely color-a joke that anyone who has SEEN IT will understand). And they are NOT everywhere in CTG; they are in Bocagrande and the tourist parts of the Ciudad Vieja. WHY? Because that is where the tourists and their money are to be found.
Finally, and REITERATING that I am NOT calling you a racist, the fact that you are married to a Latina does NOT prove the ABSENCE of any bias against Blacks. Japanese men LOVE White girls, yet they are still the most racist people ON EARTH IMHO. I will say that the more you try and "defend" against a charge of racism that was never made, you begin to lend credence to those who might ascribe some racial animus to your posts. There were no "homilies on equality of the races" at all and your response merely evaded responding to the points made above, to wit, that touts go where foreigners go. THAT simple.
Surfer,
Hear, Hear! Well said!
Gee! thanks Surfer. NOW I get it. The touts go to Cartagena because thats where the tourists are, and not because they are desperately poor. I get it. I get it. Never thought of that scratching my head).
Surfer, I have no doubt that you know Colombia MUCH better than I, but how come you don't share that knowledge. Your posts are really just critiques of other people's posts. If you know so much, how come you didn't inform the huddled masses of mongers out there about the tout problem? Your trite response that the touts will go away if you tell them that you don't have any money is crap. These guys will follow you for blocks. The massage ladies will harrass you for ten to fifteen minutes before finally taking a hike. Don't you think the mongers will want to know that out of every hour spent on the beach, at least a half hour of that will be taken up fighting off touts. I take full credit for raising this all-important issue. How come you didn't, with all your experience. I get it, I get it: you were too busy CORRECTING other people's posts.
You gotta understand what the mongers are interested in. When it comes to Colombia, they're worried about whether they'll get kidnapped at the airport, or robbed, or get caught up in a shootout between the narcos. What does the city look like. They also want to know what the women look like ( a fabulous mixture of Indian, European and African). So get off your high horse and give it to them.
Don
You're Right Surfer the touts follow the toruists whereever they go. Well just a few months back I was sipping rum and cokes at a tout's mansion and he told me he was considering a trip to Cannes for the film festival because he was certain that there would be many, many tourists there. He said that you couldn't put a price on the pleasure he derives from harassing tourists whereever he can find them. So you are clearly correct in you statement that poverty plays no role in the tout mentality their are NO OTHER FACTORS than their pervassive desire to harrass tourists. Another enlightening post Surfer, Thanks.
To the rest of you -- who might think that these are poverty stricken people trying to scratch out an existence in an economy with rampant unemplyment and a truly ineffectual education system and have therefore been drawn like moths to a light bulb to a location where people might have the disposible income to buy their worthless baubles-- you're all wrong. To the rest of you -- that might think that these touts probably don't enjoy harassing you any more than you like being harassed and that claim to hear a hint of desperation in their voices -- you are a pack of of bleeding heart liberal panzies. Now shut up, Surfer might have something else to say.
Peace, guys !!
Make love, not war. Remember?
A close friend of mine was in Cartagena just last week, and he came back enchanted with the girls. He did 4 amateurs (no pros) and I have seen some pictures. They were really hot.
He also raved on their friendliness, warmth, femininity, etc.
On the negative: the touts. He also said that the old city could be kept better, that the beaches were not that great, etc.
But just the pleasure of having easy sex with great looking girls compensates for all that. Does it not???
By the way, I happen to know the Don personally, and I will confirm that he does not discriminate among shape or size. If it is alive and wears a skirt, it´s game! :-)
Now, I am considering going to Cartagena myself...
From my personal experiences with the Dashing one, I can assure you all that he is no Racist. Don hates everybody equally !
B69
How you doing buddy ? I would love to see the photos your friend took of the "non pros" to see if I can recognize any of their faces from LDV.
In my opinion touts don't follow the tourists to CTG but they exist merely because tourists are there. If you ask me, the vast majority of touts probably don't even own the inventory of junk they are peddling and instead , for a small commission of what they sell, they are acting as a roving pedestrian extension for the few wealthy storeowners or junk suppliers in CTG. I enjoyed Cali much more where the malls remained stationary rather than chasing you around the city.
Later.
Dashing Don,
My bad for assuming, no hard feeling I hope!
Board, sincere thanks for correcting me!
LAST POST from me on the subject of touts in CTG:
First, thanks to those who PM'd me with support.
Second: Touts have been a WELLKNOWN issue in tourist parts of CTG FOR AGES, so Don's critique that I should have warned others about the problem misses the mark IMHO. There were touts LONG BEFORE I EVER SET FOOT IN CTG, and their presence is WIDELY DISCUSSED in travel books etc (in addition to on monger boards). Accordingly, I reject the suggestion that it is MY RESPONSIBILITY to warn him (or anybody else).
Third: There are ways of minimizing the annoyance posed by the touts that are known to savvy travelers. They are more effective if you LOOK THE PART (i.e. you walk around with an expensive watch, polo shirt, jewelry etc it will be harder). Also, older folks will have more difficulty employing these methods and lack of Spanish proficiency will SEVERELY UNDERMINE tout avoidance tactics.
Fourth: CTG is NOT the only place on Earth to experience this phenomenon and MANY places with a large black population living in poverty do NOT have a tout problem. Also, places with NO BLACKS AT AQLL have touting problems. Jalan Legian (in Kuta Beach on Bali) has some of the worst touts (and the highest number) in the World, yet NONE are Black. They are Balinese and Javanese etc etc etc. While I have not been there, I hear India is MUCH WORSE yet ALL touts there are INDIAN (not Black).
The comparison to the French Riviera is absurd, of course, as there is not the juxstaposition of wealth upon poverty that exists in places with a tout problem.
FINALLY, those who wonder why those in the know are hesistant to share their knowledge on this forum should carefully read this thread. The sarcastic responses to my attempt to correct what I viewed as inaccuracies (and racial scapegoating) are a paradigm of why so few really knowledgeable people both to share their knowledge here.
PS Slick1: I agree with your post, but let's be careful with comparisoins to other cities please.
Surfer,
If you wonder why you receive sarcastic responses maybe you
should check out the condescending air of superiority with which you deliver your "knowledge." You make frequent boasts about your superior knowledge, but seldom do anything other than criticize other people's posts without providing any specific information other than to tell us that you know better than everyone else. (Also I have to admit that I find your habit of capitalizing words for emphasis to be extremely ANNOYING.) If you do have some actual information, please share it, I am sure that we would all be grateful.
Regarding your claim that so many people refrain from sharing their knowledge on the WSG because essential the masses are ungrateful and unworthy--it begs the question of why they are members of this forum. Isn't the specific purpose of this forum to share information to help us all have a more rewarding and safer time pursuing our common hobby? Most of us post the limited knowledge that we have in hopes of helping each other out. I personally think that your elitest attitude sucks.
Regarding everyone jumping on Dashing Don for making an allegedly racist statement, he made an observation, nothing more. It was not a social commentary or anything else other than commenting on his own observation of what happened when he was in Cartagena. It is a sad fact, not a racist comment, that, in general, the black population in Colombia is on the bottom of the economic scale.
I hope that you will start to actually share some of your information. If you choose not to, and continue to simply point out your superior knowledge without sharing any actual facts, I will continue to consider you a pompous ass.
ALL - FARC is out bombing the hell out of different areas of the country (Northwest Colombia (normally safer)). Many dead and many wounded.
This to celebrate the 40th anniversary of their start of the "war."
Please see the link below for the CNN story:
http://us.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/americas/05/23/colombia.attack.ap/index.html
Good Luck and please be safe. Gringos are easy to spot and although that might help you with the ladies, it also makes you an easy target for the FARC.
$Bill
ps - if "Surfer" comes off as knowing all, that is because he does. You guys that have not had the honor of mongering with Surfer, do not know the level in which he operates. I thought I was good, until I saw how a true "professional" does it. Thanks to Surfer for all that he has given those of us that choose to read and take his advice.
Here is some more info on the attacks:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/americas/05/24/colombia.40.years.ap/index.html
Please be safe!
$Bill
Bombs in Cartagena this week? Anyone there right now? Tell us what's happening pls. Tourist areas affected?
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Hello,
I've been trying to figure out from reading previous posts but unsuccessfully where should I stay for more action (beach, parties, clubbing, safety) Bocagrande or Old City?
Also if arriving in July are hotel reservations recommended? Any good (chica friendly) mid-range hotel recommendations?
And finally I'd ideally want to get an apartment. Will be easy once we've arrived?
Thanks!
Sean
Stay in Bocagrande because the lodging will be cheaper than in the old city. Everyone in Cartagena knows that Bocagrande is Tourist Central. The happening clubs are in the old city.
Footprint's Colombia Handbook will be useful.
If you just want to hang out at La Dolce Vida then lodge near, or at, Las Velas.
You can go to the Gold Museum, then walk next door and buy a pair of happening gold cufflinks.
Ferolga
Sean EZ
The one bombing sounds as if it is not FARC related.
I will be in Cartagena 05/27/2004, and I will post what I find out!
hey how are the other spots in cart. la dolce will always be there what about that pick up spot in old town is that gone .yes please share about any trouble in paradise cuz of farc
There is a high season from about 6/15 to about 7/15. During that time reservations are a good idea.
Mr. Babilla's, Tu Candelas, and Giro Matto are some other clubs to try. They are all in or near the old city. B and Tu hop between midnight and 3. GM hops from 2:00 am to 5.
Dear people,
Regarding the concerns recently posted over the bombing in cartagena; I have come across some inormation that suggests that there was no bombing in Cartagena, hence the story as reported by CNN may not be completely accurate.
The following was posted by experienced travellers on a Colombia travel website:
"News
Author: ColombiaBoard | Date: Wed, 05/26/2004 - 10:58 | login or register to post comments
The whole story was false, it seems it was a brawl at a small fisher town 22 kms. away from the city and a boy was killed. The city Mayor (of Cartagena) denounced the report as false.
Cartagena is considered safe, that´s where the US-Colombia free trade agreement negotiations took place last week, with the usual anti-globalization protesters and now there are trade negotiations with european companies.
Apartado in a small town in the northwestern tip of Colombia, bordering Panama (for those who keep asking if crossing the Darien Gap is safe). That area is considered unsafe and therefore we always recommend not to attempt to cross the Gap."
Another report:
"Not Quite What Really Happened.
Author: Gator | Date: Wed, 05/26/2004 - 09:14 | login or register to post comments
Apparently the incident occurred, according to the police and reported on Radio Caracol, not in Cartagena as reported by the AP(what else is new) but outside the city. The death of a 18-year old in a billiard parlor happened in little fishing village, Arroyo de las Canoas, about 22 kilometers out of Cartagena on the hightway to Barranquilla. If you have made the drive and happened to sneeze at the wrong time you missed Arroyo de las Canoas. Population is 95% very poor black fisherman. A couple of reports now say there is every possiblity FARC/ELN was NOT even involved."
These reports were sourced from : http://www.poorbuthappy.com
Perhaps this is another case of the Western media over sensationalising the troubles in Colombia. However the prudent monger should always be careful and aware of their behavior and personal security, this is true whether you are travelling in Colombia, Thailand or Madagascar.
I wish you all safe and enjoyable travels.
Sean: Rent an apartment from Mery Salence. She is VERY reliable, trustworthy and speaks great English. PM me for her email address.
I also liked La Tripleteria which is about 200 feet from Tu Candelas in the old city. It is very much a pick up scene for free lancers and is more fun in my opinion than Tu Candelas. Also Tu Candelas only serves Heinekien beer as opposed to the awesome Colombian beers.
Bomb Explodes on Roof of Hotel Capilla del Mar in Cartagena yesterday. A friend who is there sent this:
Actually, one went off at 10:30 am thursday morning on the top of the hotel Capilla Del Mar in Boca Grande.I can verify this as i am in the building next door, and the blast awoke me from my slumber.Very quickly i might add.Other than a pair of soiled drawers,no damage on my part.The bomb was in a block utility building next to the pool on top of the hotelNo one was injured that i know of.There was some kind of Govt meeting going on there.I watched as they loaded the people on a bus and transported them elsewhere.Watched them inspect the damage from my balcony(approx 100 yards away)Will post some fotos when i return.My first bombing.Remember, this is Colombia.
Goes to show that while Cartagena is MUCH safer than the rest of the Country, it IS, after all, still a part of Locombia!
Do a google search to find the whole story.
Surfer
There was a suspicious device but it was detonated in a controlled explosion. This does not make it any better but it assumes there is some level of vigilence.
Take care
Latintraveller
05/31/04 01:00
Just touched down at LAX:
I was in Cartagena for four days, did not see anything that one would consider adnormal. this time my trip took me all over Cartagena, the mall, the ghettos, all over the city.
The only thing that was different this trip, I was riding on my friends motorcycle and we got stopped by the cops, found out I was an american and wanted 100,000 for not wearing a helmet, I laughed out loud and he settle for 2,000 pesos.
A friend of mind told me that he had heard that a bomb went off but he thinks that it is just a rumor, or they just do not know for sure what it was, he told me that they did close the the airport for two hours last week just as a precaution.
info deleted - see "General Info" Section for news info on killings
Gee Dollar Bill, thanks for the one man terror campaign. ;> )
Should I post this response only in the General section, or, should I respond in every section so that everyone can enjoy my jaundiced view of the world?
Cheerio,
Ferolga
Unfortunately about 3500 people die per year due to paramilitary forces. Probably not the main concern for a regular tourist who sticks to main cities.
A member on the Cali thread mentioned difficulties exchanging dollars and travelers checks.
Does anyone know if this problem exists in CTG. I will be there in 2 weeks for 2 weeks. Plan bringing cash and exchange as needed. Unless someone has a better suggestion. Any reply greatly appreciated.
Enjoy
You will have no problem exchanging cash in CTG. There are cambios all over including one in the airport.
You get a slightly better exchange rate through ATMs. There are ATMs all over including two in the airport. And they have no charge on the Colombian end.
If you are staying at Las Velas or Hilton area you can change cash at Foto Rozo, a little photo shop across from Las Velas and a La Dolce Vita with some very nice owners.
Thanks guys.
I'm staying in laguito so Rozo should be easily found.
I've been here for a few days now. A brief report for those unsure about visiting CTG. Come on down. Stay in laguito/Bocagrande area.
Both Friday and Saturday nights at LDV were fantastic. A minimum of 40, probably over 50 young girls and very attractive, HOT women in their mid 20's. Plenty to choose from.
Probably no more than 10-15 men.
Friday's date was attractive. She was good in bed but left after 1-11/2 hrs. BBBJ, then covered. A magician applying on the condom. Did it as I entered her in ride position.
Last night's woman I will rate a 9+. Very hot, sexy, real GFE experience from the start and she slept over. She agreed to 120000 P but I gave her 150000 P. because she was worth it. Wet and wild. Many positions. My date from Friday night was there also. She knows her and she remarked how beautiful she is. Both light milk chocolate, smooth skinned.
By the way, there was a 10+ there also last night. Dark blond pony tailed, caucasian with a nice tan. Looked Scandinavian but was COL. Her dress was wide open down to her navel. Breasts 50% exposed. But she didn't look that "bad" type if you know what I mean. Early 20's. Already taken when I got there.
Thursday afternoon, picked up a 20 yr. old but not SW. Great body. Within 15 min. she started a great BBBJ. Her picture to be posted when I return home end of the month.
To conclude, the police raided LDV Friday night 3 AM to check id's on the females and check for weapons amongst the men. The LEOs, both sexes, were decent, calm and polite in the action. I was not body checked but he asked for my id (fotocopy of passport). He also asked if I was bearing a weapon. Many of the Os even chatted with the women. Afterwards, the 4 women I spoke with all agreed it was perfectly ok with the raid because of the sense of security it gave. I agree.
Now need to treat my hangover.
Do you look like a Gringo? I was in LDV during a raid in March of 2003. They never asked me for anything. The chicas were not okay with that raid as TV cameras accompanied the raiders.
Does anyone have more info on casas, I plan to take my first trip.
They open and close regularly. Ask any taxi driver. Pleyboy is the most expensive and has the hottest chicas.
I personally prefer to hit the clubs(especially La Dolce Vita in Laguito), the beach, and the streets and restaurants. Just smile and say "hola." Don't bother hitting any clubs before 11:00 pm. They rock until 3:00 am or later. Giro Matto in Centro is open until 9:00 am or so.
Can someone recommend some mid range priced hotels.
I don't have much experience with hotels in CTG. Don't go to the Decameron. The Las Velas has changed hands and may not be a good choice. Before I bought my apartment, I used Juan Ventura to rent the apartments of others. That is your medium range best bet. I can give you Juan's E-mail if you E-mail me.
Hi Tomtom.
What's wrong with Decameron. They have an all inlcusive at Single=$369 for 3 nights.
Double=$299 for 3 nights.
Part of the problem is that it is all inclusive. In Feb. of last year I had to pay an extra US$45 per day for the priviledge of bringing in one chica. And it was one hell of a hassle to get them to agree to that. They weren't going to allow any chicas at any price because they are a family hotel. Then they almost shit when I wanted a different chica each day.
It is much less hassle and cheaper to rent an apartment. You will pay US$40-60 per night during low season and can bring in four or more chicas per day or four at one time plus you have a full kitchen and fridge. And one of the pleasures of CTG is dining al fresco. It's good, cheap and great chica-watching. I have even picked up hot puss while dining. There wasn't much to choose from at the Decameron. There were a couple of Ecuadorean doctors, but I think they were dykes.
Spent a couple of weeks in CTG last month visiting LDV the first week and the remaining time with my novia.
LDV is a great place for reasonably priced Aguillas and reasonably priced women (compared to US/European expenses). Between 100-200000 P all night depending on their looks, your looks and your behavior. Buy a small bottle of rum and you have friends for life, I mean night. Sex with the women I took home was worth every peso. They worked for their gifts. One 25 yr. old I took out to dinner one night at a fantastic restaurant, then dancing afterwards. She stayed until 6 AM.
Another 20 yr. old from LDV gave 3 shots total. Had trouble getting her to leave 10 AM next morning. Very sweet young woman.
For street action, I noticed around 11 PM on CRA 2 between CAL 5-7 in Bocagrande several very young girls looking for clients. I am sure their fees were very inexpensive but I was not interested in their types but others would find them doable.
In front of the casino on CRA 2 you can find one or two escorts looking for a date if that is your preference. One marrone skinned girl was beautiful with a great body.
A picture or two to be posted shortly.
Cartegena is a great place to get harrassed by vendors every moment of your trip. Don't expect to relax anywhere except your hotel's swimming pool. If that is the only place to relax, why come?
Even on the 2 hour trip to a small island the local vendor people start selling their junk the moment you step off the boat nonstop.
They even line up to offer you their junk jewely, beach massages, hair brades, shirts, fake rolexes. If you take someones wares in your hand it is the kiss of death. 20 more will get in line to sell you afterwards.
Worst place, even ranks below Angeles City in the Philippines and Boca Chica in the Dominican Republic. Like time share salesmen in Orlando Florida.
Girls are mostly black, if you like black. People here descended from slaves imported into South America.
Most of the girls walking by themselves along the main street #2 can be had for about $40. If they have a cell phone they are working.
I don't know about you, but I spend a lot of time relaxing in bed. Not even the most persistent tout can get by my security guys at the front desk. Try going across the channel from Laguito to Isla Tierra Bomba. There are no touts there. They are all over in Boca Grande working.
There are a lot of black chicas, but I wouldn't say most. The blacks in Colombia are concentrated along the Caribbean coast.
NYC Expat.
Is CRA 2 in front of the casino right next to LDV or are you referring to the other Casino in Bocagrande?
Also, I've heard rumors there is a casa only open thu, fri, sat next to a casino in Bocagrande. The guy who told me was reliable (he informed me of some other area that paid off) but I could never find this casa (but I didn't question enough about specifics) Please PM me or give reply here if you have the answer. Thanks!
CRA 2 is the street in Bocagrande with many restaurants and the casino.
A taxi driver hanging out in laguito near the high rise apt. buildings told me about a casa with many girls but I did not take him up on it as my novia was expected later that night. Also can't be too sure about where they take you regarding neighborhood at night, getting back etc. I would though next trip let him drive me there as I am more familiar with the city now after 3 weeks vacation.
If there is a casa near Bocagrande casino, that might explain why I saw several young girls hanging out on the st. close to the casino looking for clients in that area. I walked that area many times during the day and night. The casa if it exists must be quite discreet. Let us know how you make out.
Greetings sexperts,
Please advise me a First timer to Columbia. Traveling solo 7 nights, How many nights should I spend in Bogota, and how many in Cartagena? I do speak spanish, and have experiace in Nicaragua, CR and DR. Yes, I know they aren't the same as Columbia.
Finally, If any one is in town who'd like to meet up, The first beer is on me.
Travelling Sept2 thru the 9th.
THANKS,
Belmont
Is Cartagena a good place for us mongers with lil to no spanish skills? Is LDV open every night of the week or just weekends?
Some good points here.
You have to take the harrassment of the vendors as a given. The more 'gringo' you look the worse it gets. Of course, remember avg. Colombianos here on vacation also get hit for tourist crap. All part of being a vacation spot. If you don't think you can handle it, most of the other spots have far less hard core vendors than Cartagena (like Cali, so much more mellow!!).
If you can't speak Spanish, my personal experience is the trip is vastly different. Just my take after taking Spanish daily 1/2 hour a day for almost 2 years (along with about 6 trips to get rid of my 'Gringo Tin Ear').
I'd like to hear more about Isle Tierra Bomba... how far is that from Cartagena? Where did you make the ticket reservation?
I got really burned on an Isle De Rosario ticket. Fucking piece of crap. We never got to Isle De Rosario, we got to look at it from the boat. Instead we went to a fucking shithole island about a meter wide with NO TOILET. Lovely! All the tourists running around to find a place to shit in the water. Of course you could briefly escape all the touts/bead vendors/ etc that were waiting like flies on shit (in this case, kinda literally!) to descend on the hapless hordes. Make sure you know what you're getting and who you're getting it from, my motto!!
Poo,
Tierra Bomba is right across from Laguito. You can rent a boat near the Hilton for the 10 min. trip across. It is the huge island that blocks the entry to the Bay of Cartagena. Boca Chica(many vendadores) is on the other side of TB. I don't think that TB is a great location. Just mentioned that there are no touts there.
If you want to avoid touts, get out of Boca Grande and Centro. CTG has nearly 1 million people. There is a huge shopping mall quite a ways west of Centro. There are no touts there. And there are plenty of non-pro chicas who'd love to love a Gringo for the price of a meal and a couple of drinks.
Islas del Rosario can be great. They are a group of islands. There is an aquarium on one of the islands that is neat. You can also spend the night at a hotel out there. The hotels have bathrooms. Don't take a small boat. The winds can pick up in the afternoon, and you can get pounded coming back.
Tierrabomba is the island directly across the bay from Laguito. I took a jet ski over to check out the waves out at the left point. Shoreline was VERY unattractive-looked like the beach in Tijuana. Really.
HEARD good things about Islas del Rosario but never made it out there. If you want real beaches with clear water and great diving, go to Santa Marta area, or even better San Andres/Provedencia.
Do you think second week on November is an OK month to visit?
I am thinking of spending 6 nights there.
On an average how many women go to LDV on a night?
How many above say an 8?
second week of November is best week of the year to visit Cartagena (Miss Colombia pagent). But book room SOON!
Great.
I see the Hilton is already full up.
But does that mean it will be over run with gringos, leaving no girls to go around?
What would be the next best choice to Hilton that's chica friendly?
An apartment is a better bet than a hotel. Realize that the rates are probably double during the pageant. I can give you the E-mail of Juan Ventura if you E-mail me. Juan owns one apartment near the Hilton and handles rentals for many others. Book soon.
I have never seen CTG overrun with Gringos, and I have never seen a shortage of chicas. They know it is a busy time as well and are willing to work overtime.
The Hilton is ground zero for the pageant (all the contestants stay there). Apartments are better than hotels, and several are VERY close to the Hilton.
Gentlemen,
Just returned from CTG. I never made it to LVD. I went out every night and hooked up with girls. Plaza Santo Domingo was plentiful with single girls. Went to MR. Babillas and this place was off the chain for single girls. I stayed at an apartment next to the Hilton (El Conquistador). 60,000 pesos 2 bedrooms. The place is not close to a standard hotel. No hot water A/C was average. However, extremely chica friendly. The # is 011-57-5-665-0630 and 011-57-5-665-0165. In El centro there are numerous cafes and bars with tables outside. These are target rich environments for non-pros. I went with the thought of going to visit LVD. Again, I met several girls who justed wanted to get to know me, dance a little, drink a little, then every one of them were willing to head back to the apartment. 4 nights 3 different girls. The last one was the better and wish I met her the first night. As for the beach, forget it. Go to Tierra Bomba or Punta arenas. They have boats next to the Hilton on the East side. The boats were 50,000 pesos for round trip for 2. The sand is much nicer and vendors we easy to dismiss. On Boca grande it is impossible to relax on the beach with the amount of vendors. If you have a motivated wing man you could slay different girls on multiple occasions. Next time, again, I will attempt to visit LDV. However, if my luck continues I will never see the walls from the inside.
Peace out.
Thanks, but I would just prefer the safety and conveniance of a hotel for my first visit.
What would be a Hilton equivelant near tha action, that is girl friendly.
No safer and LESS "convenient" in my opinion, but to each their own. The Del Caribe is the closest 5 star hotel to the Hilton but they have a repuitation as not being very chica friendly. Las Velas is even closer BUT it is 2 star (despite their sign claiming 4 Star). Those are the only hOtels I know of in Laguito itself.
Only Hotel I've stayed at (I MUCH prefer apartments as do almost all experienced Cartagena vistors) was the Almirante which was very nice (4 Star) in Bocagrande which is about a mile or so from Laguito. The traffic to Laguito is HORRENDOUS during the big week and I often exited cabs and walked the rest of the way.
I can walk, alone, at any time of the day or night in Laguito, Boca Grande, Castillo Grande, or Centro. Safety is not really an issue in all of Cartagena. You may want to cab in the Getsemane area between 10pm and 4am.
That, of course, doesn't mean you can be stupid. Don't drink too much. Don't touch drugs. Don't wear any jewelry. Don't carry any more money than you need that day. Leave your passport in your apt./hotel.
Apartments are as safe. Every one that I know has 24-hour security. And they are much more convenient.
If you want to stay close to the action at LDV then Las Velas is your choice. Also a nice, safe neighborhood with cheap and good restaurants (I can recommend if needed), conv. stores etc. You will also see many women walking around this area both during the day and early evening hours.
For upper level accommodations, take the Almirante. Also safe area in Bocagrande with many restaurants (one HIGHLY recommendable for a date), one blk from la playa and about 15 minute walk to LDV. I walked that area numerous times both day and night. A few min. from Almirante is the supermarket for necessities. Both areas you will feel safe to walk, patronize businesses and more. The touts will bother you but as I said countless times, do not stop, chat or in any way show interest in their items unless you want to.
There is also the Hotel Caribe across the st. from the beach and between those 2 hotels but can't speak for their friendliness. It does look nice from the outside. I met a latin American on my flight whom stayed there and I assure you he was a hunter.
Wish I could be there in November.
But just to re-check.
As a first time visit, is that week actually a time to try and go if your chica hunting?
Or would I be better avoiding that week for a quiter one.
Does it mean that the pros will be busier and worn out, are are the people just there for the contest, and not hunters.
Is the Almirante chica friendly?
I read some earlier posts saying it was poor with broken a/c.
So is the caribe a definate no chica, or just not easy?
Almirante was fairly strict about checking hotel keys to ghet into room, but I brought a chica from BAQ so never tested if bringing in different chicas would be an issue. I thought Hotel quality (including AC) was fine. If you are worried about quality at Almirante, forget Las Velas entirely as it is beneath your standards.
There is another hotel called the 'Charleston Cartegena' which is in the historic town.
Is the historic town near to LDV?
If the traffic is that bad I had better stay near LDV.
I don't mind walking if it's safe.
The Caribe has rooms but you say it is not chica friendly?
Any clues where this playboy club is?
guys,
was in cartagena last year october and stayed there for nearly 4 weeks.
in bocagrande (especialy barrio el laguito) you can rent tons of appartments for peanut money.
i rented mine for about € 15,- a day (with current us $ that is about 18 bucks).
the furniture was very new and looked nice.
the shower only had cold water; well that actualy is more warm then cold in cartagena;-)
backdraws were that the tv not had cable so i only could watch 2 colombian channals via antenna.
the lady who owned the place promised me several times to fix this but she never did!
anyway i don't give a damn about tv when i am on holiday. but if you can not stay without cnn you might want to be more picky about your appartement.
just step in the many appartment buildings. there are always app. for rent. just ask at the guard or anyone who lives inside. if you rent a appartment be prepared to give your fingerprint on the contract!
what was for me very negative is that the barrio is very noisy!! everyday untill deep in the night there is a party going on somewere. besides that indeed the traffic is like crazy. traffic jams at 22.00 are quite normal!
positive things are: lots of internet cafees (allthough more expensive then in the centre or outskirts), all kinds of restaurants,beach nearby and lots of chicas!!!
traveling to larger shopping malls (castelliana fe) take about 10 min with a taxi and about 30 min with a bus (with is cheap!!)
please be carefull if you take a bus after dark!!!
if you found (or allready have) your amiga islas del rosario is a must do thing!!!
i stayed a night there and it was very very nice,quite and very romantic.
please bring your girl...because here are no hookers!!!
the boattrip to that place is with a speedy "lancia"and takes about 2 hours. on the way back you will stay 2-3 hours at "playa negro". at this place i met very nasty and persistend streetvendors!!!! be warned! they will hassle you all the time. stay polite and say "no gracias, senor/senora". if you buy something get ready for the other 23 vendors coming your way...lol
learn your spanish;as i found out that in most travel agencies they do not speak one word english!!
booking tours to islas del rosarios will not be any problem. just go to 2-3 agencies and make your pick.(there is a price diffrence so look out not to get cheated)
johan.
Johan,
You stopped at playa blanca on the way home. It is so named for the white sand beaches.
TM,
The "historic town" is also known as Centro. It is not close to LDV. But it's only a 10-15 minute cab ride. The Charleston is a neat place but probably not chica friendly. The Caribe probably is not either.
The Pleyboy is out in the barrios. Any cab driver knows where it is.
Guys,
here are some pics from the beach,the pool and a very lovely sunset from Islas del Rosario.
enjoy.
Johan
ok only could post one pic...here is the sunset at islas del Rosario.
Johan
And here a pic of the very colonial center of Cartagena.
Johan
Guys,
after being there for nearly 4 weeks I can only say that there are pretty women availeble in Caratgena.
HOWEVER if you want to have better luck and higher ratio goodlooking women (and hookers aswell) do NOT come to cartagena.
IMHO in Cali,Medellin and also Bogota the numbers of realy pretty women OUTNUMBER the goodlooking women in Cartagena by far. I spoke with 2-3 Cartageneros and they also confirm me that calenas and women from medellin are considered more pretty then the ones in cartagena!
Barranquilla is more or less the same as Cartagena regarding looks from women. But BQ is a very modern industrial city with a large port. It has no real old heart like Cartagena. Besides that I heard the beach is a rather shitty place with lots of polution.
However,imho Cartagena is one of the "savest" cities in Colombia. Not the cheapest,but the savest. And if you like the BEACHLIFE (like me) cartagena IS THE place to be:-)
Take care while you there and have fun.
Johan
Has anyone visited or knowledge of Palmira. I know its geographical location. I am emailing with a woman whom invited me to her home after only 3 emails and 2 photos. My ex-novia introduced her 3 children within 24 hrs. of our first encounter. Colombian women don't waste time.
While in CTG in July, I met a couple of Americans staying in the old historic city. They thought their hotel was ok. However, its about 3 miles to Laguito and LDV. Take a taxi costing 3000 P. I walked from Laguito to the historic city during the day. Because of the heat I would suggest a taxi at night and it's safer. At the traffic circle outside of the historic city heading towards Bocagrande, I saw SWs on several occasions after 11 P.M.
"The Walled, Historic City" has CTG's best restaurants IMHO. Great for taking a date but be prepared to spend equivalent of US$65-100. for a 2 course dinner with wine for 2. You can also dine much cheaper if desired. This area also has some of the cheapest lunch restaurants. I paid for a 2 course lunch 7000 P. Another place, only 5000 P. The historic city is full of spectacular architecture. Walk the streets during the daytime hours around lunchtime until mid-afternoon for great sightseeing, both the female type and tourist type.
The historic city is also great at night with lots of young people walking, dining, visiting bars, discos, outdoor cafes for meetings etc.
If you stay in Bocagrande, there are plenty of good restaurants with reasonable Colombian prices.
I visited Castellana shopping mall and was not impressed compared to American and European malls. For CTG, it's a generous 6. From Laguito to Castellana Mall, the normal taxi fare is 12000 P. taking about 20 min. through interesting, local neighborhoods.
ENJOY.
I have been in Medellin and Guarne. I would be very careful about going to Periera. But you might be okay if your chica comes to the airport to get you. I was stopped by the police in Guarne because I am a Gringo. Don't think they have seen many of us. They were nice enough, though.
CTG is the most expensive city in Colombia, but I never came close to paying that much for dinner in Centro. How many bottles of wine did you have? I would say in most top restaurants you'd pay $50 for dinner and drinks for two.
Chicas from all over the country come to CTG to hook up with tourists. They don't like their own men.
Indeed in the old historic city there are many fancier ("trendy") restaurants are rip offs.
Once I paid for a large pizza about 14 us $..!! which I think is heavely overpriced for such a pizza. (keep in mind that an average wages in Cartagena is NOT more then 150 bucks a month)
Stay away from the chinese restaurants. They are even more expensive then in my own country!!!
I paid with me and my girl about 40 bucks for a normal chinese dinner!!! Again I think this is overpriced.
A few days later we eat chinese in a barrio called las Caracoles...and there we eat more and even better for 11 bucks;-)
There are many cheap fastfood chains specialised on chicken! (pollo) For about 5-6 bucks you have a decent meal(french fries,chicken and vegetables) with a soda. Service is great,save (mostly guards at present) and clean.
As far as I know there is only ONE MD...and it isn't booming!
I didn't see a Burgerking.
In Casteliana there are many many little restaurants. Great pick...against very reasonable pricing:-)
For me this mall was new. As we do not have such malls in Holland. One thing anoyed me: much little kids running and screaming arround untill very late at night:-(
If you want to eat much at very low prices you can also eat at Carulla,Vivero and/or the larger Olimpica shops. Best time to get there is between 11.00 and 15.00...after that you might get unlucky because there is nothing left! Also a great change to meet colombianas;-)
Tip: try the paisa food (from medellin) it's great!! I loved it:-) There are a zillion restaurants in CTG with paisa food served.
IMHO the Colombian food is far better then what I eat in Brasil or in DR. Only the peruvian kitchen is as vast and good as the colombian,maybe even slighty better;but that's a personal choice.
Johan
"Plaza de Bolivar" in the Historic City.
"Puerta del Reloj" in city center across the street from main entrance to the Historic City
Expat: It is actually spelled Palmyra and I have been there several times (had a GF met online that lived there).
What do you want to know? It is a midsized town about 20 minutes further North from Cali's airport. Safe area with a cinema and even a Karen's Pizza (one of my favorites in Cali). A great place to take tyour chivca and her family for a day trip is Lago Calima, about an hour further North and West. A lovely area like an undeveloped Lake Tahoe. Fairly cool as it is up in mountains (a relief from the heat). You can rent jetskis there. Go during the week unless you like crowds (Cali folk spend weekends up there)
Again, a safe area (though better to NOT travel at night, as always in Colombia).
Johan: The ambience at the restaurants in Plaza Santo Domingo is worth SOME added cost, but I agree with you that it is easy to overpay in those places that are tourist oriented. Fancy restaurants in Cali & Medellin are cheaper (less tourists).
I avoid Chinese restaurants the World over because none compare to those in my hometown (San Francisco).
Your reply is sufficient. I found out its about 25 km. from Cali. Safety is a priority.
Looks like I shall be when the beauty pageant is on.
The Hilton is full.
Is the caribe not chica friendly at all?
I suppose the old town is too far out with the traffic.
Any other decent hotels.
Is ther an Intercont there?
Centro, the Old City, is not that far from Laguito. The traffic is bad but it does move. Without traffic problems, it's about a 10 minute cab ride. Here is a listing of some area hotels http://www.s-h-systems.co.uk/colombia/cartagena.html. Don't know about chica-friendliness.
Here's a map of the tourist area with some hotel locations. Unfortunately you may not be able to see small details because of size restrictions on uploads.
Expat-North from Cali is the safe direction to travel, really the ONLY safe direction. I'd still stay in Cali rather than Palmyra though. Taxi from town to send your chica home at night should run no more than 50K ($20); then you can go have fun. If you stay in Pakmyra no nicer hotels and not much to do after hours.
Think I shall give the Caribe a go and take a chance.
If I book a double room would that make things easier?
Any other ideas for Chica friendly ones?
Is it pretty easy transfering from international to domestic at Bogota airport?
Travelmen: Up to you (as they say in Thailand). Hopefully you won't have too much difficulty, but if you arrive with a new chica each time, especially late at night when traffic is thin, you might have problems. The place LOOKS lovely (like Hotel California from the Eagles Album of the same namew which is actually the Beverly Hilton) whereas the CTG Hilton is typical modern style).
The connection in BOG from international arrivals (El Dorado terminal) to flights to CTG depends on your carrier. Believe it or not, Avianca/GrupoSumma is LEAST convenient as their flights to CTG leave from a separate terminal (the Puente Aerea about 1 km from El Dorado). Aerorepublica goes from El Dorado and is more convenient.
I arrived in CTG via COPA after a couple of day’s worth of stupid mistakes on my part concerning airline connections. I remember being relatively tired from the ordeal, but also very excited by the prospect of visiting a land that promised such blissful returns. I cleared customs in CTG without incident, and exited the baggage claim area after a brief inspection of my baggage by armed military personnel.
All baggage is inspected by armed military personnel upon arrival after leaving the baggage claim area. The inspector did what I consider a cursory search of my baggage, and waived me off on my way within 3 minutes after having begun the search. It was no big deal at all.
All passengers went through the same degree of scrutiny, and security did not seem any more “tight” than you might encounter at the airport in Miami. It just seems a little more intense because inspectors are wearing full military gear and they are armed, whereas in Miami, inspectors are wearing much “softer” uniforms and they aren’t armed.
I stepped out onto the curb in front of the airport and was immediately greeted by Alex, the taxi driver that had been recommended by Mery, my apartment manager. Alex was holding a sign that had my name on it, and he smiled, greeted me, grabbed my baggage, and off we went to his taxi. Alex has a nice taxi with air conditioning, and he is a friendly and likeable guy.
Alex always charged a reasonable fare for his services, and I always felt safe with Alex. I used Alex almost exclusively while I was in CTG, and he was an excellent guide.
I do think Alex will take you places where he can earn a tip for bringing you there. For example, he suggested that I might want to buy some gifts for people back home, and he took me to a jewelry shop in Boca Grande one afternoon. It was obvious to me that he was probably earning a tip for bringing me there.
I looked at what they had at the store and didn’t buy anything. I think the jewelry I was quoted was too expensive for the quality I saw, but I politely listened to the clerk, who spoke very good english, and merely told her that I may return later to purchase something. Of course, I never returned, and Alex may or may not have earned a tip from bringing me to the store.
I don’t know for a fact that Alex was earning anything for bringing me to the store, but I have to assume that he did, or that he hoped I would buy something so he could earn some additional money from the store as a finders fee.
Alex also set me up with a girl from Barranquilla. The girl came down from Barranquilla to meet me. The girl later brought her cousin with her to meet me, and the cousin lives in CTG. Anyway, I had a threesome with these girls two days in a row, and I spent two nights with the girl from Barranquilla.
I will relate the specific details later on in this post, but the girls were really a lot of fun, and I enjoyed their company very much. I didn’t realize it at the time when I met the cousin, but the cousin was actually a cherry girl. The cousin was really enthusiastic about losing it too, which made it even more fun. No tears or anything, just a lot of lust.
The problem with the whole threesome girl action was that they were really hard to get rid of. They accepted very little money from me, but they did expect gifts. The cherry girl cost me about $22 for two afternoons of threesome action, which was really very reasonable, and the girl from Barranquilla cost me probably about $150 for two afternoons of threesome action and two nights of todo la noche twosome action.
Anyway, I thought they were just slightly too expensive. But, I suppose if you divide out the time between having two girls for all the time they spent with me, it was a fair price. Obviously, compared to the USA, Mexico, or Costa Rica, etc…it was quite a bargain.
Anyway, I don’t know if Alex got his cut. I would imagine he did, and that might be one reason they were slightly more expensive than some of the girls you can find in Cartegena that are actually better looking, or at least equally attractive, for less money. But, generally speaking, I really liked these girls and their GFE attitudes, so I was satisfied with them. They are now my buen amigas and they have already emailed me to tell me how they miss me, and they’re asking me when I will be back to see them again.
Alex brought me to the apartment I was renting from Mery. The apartment is the Sol De Caribe Apartments in El Laquito and they are located almost directly across from the stairway leading up to LDV. So, my apartment building was located in a very strategic position, at least in relation to the famed LDV disco.
Alex brought me upstairs to the eighth floor of the apartment building to apartment #803. When we came through the door I noticed there was a lock on the door that had to be opened from the inside with a key in order for anyone to exit the apartment. In other words, someone had paid special attention to not only security from the outside, but also from the inside as well. It would be especially useful in circumstances where certain female elements may at times try to make an attempt to leave without the knowledge of the occupant. That wasn’t going to happen in this apartment without the key to the lock.
In addition, the apartment had a lock box in the bedroom where you could secure your valuables. I had made arrangement for CD player to be placed in the apartment, and when I arrived I noticed there was a portable CD player under the TV set in the living room.
There was another locked door in the apartment, and I assumed that the apartment may have actually had two bedrooms, but since I was only in need of one bedroom, I assume the other room was locked to maintain its cleanliness for guests arriving in the future who may need more than one bedroom.
The apartment actually had a bath with a shower, and even another shower next to the kitchen. The second shower appeared to be more for cleaning off after visiting the beach so you didn’t have to track into the apartment after going to the beach.
The apartment had a full kitchen with stove, oven, refrigerator, etc…and there were relatively comfortable furnishings in the living room where there was a good couch and two comfortable chairs. There was a good color TV with remote in the family room and also one in the bedroom as well. The TV had a basic selection of cable TV programming, which was perfectly fine for my purposes.
The rental of the apartment cost me $40 a day, and I was also provided a cell phone charged with about 30 minutes of talk time that cost me $10 for the week. I used the cell phone to contact Alex, Mery the apartment manager, and I could have used it to make local calls as well. But, I primarily used it to contact Alex to arrange for transportation.
The only problems I encountered had to do with the elevator being broken most of the week I was in town. The elevator would not usually function going down, and I would have to walk down eight flights of stairs to get to the street level. This was a frequent occurrence, and it became somewhat annoying over the course of the entire week.
However, generally the elevator did function on the way up, with the help of the security guard tinkering with the elevator controls each time. There were just few times when I had to walk up eight flights of stairs to my apartment. But, what the hell, I considered it my exercise on the few days it happened and it was not too much of a problem. It would have been nice to have a functioning elevator, but I was there to have fun, and I was not about to let that little problem spoil my attitude.
The security guys were excellent. They checked the girls coming into the apartment when I wanted them checked out, sometimes making them produce identification so they could document them checking in. On the other hand, if I waived them off, they would follow my lead and not make an issue of it. It was entirely up to me as to the level of security they would follow relative to admittance of the girls.
The security guys were also excellent at announcing when my girls showed up at the apartment building to see me. The security guys would call the apartment and inquire if I wanted to see a girl when she showed up. As I mentioned earlier, one of the security guys was especially helpful, and actually sent me a really nice girl for the night one time. I will go into more detail about how that came about later on.
Anyway, after I settled into the apartment and Alex had left, Mery the apartment manager came over to make sure everything was satisfactory. She was really a very nice lady. She and her daughter, Sally, even took me to the local grocery store so I could stock up on some stuff for the refrigerator.
That evening, I was feeling kind of tired from the trip, but I knew I wanted to check out the famed LDV bar. So, around 8pm I strolled over there. It was probably less than 500 feet from the entrance to my apartment building.
But, I soon realized that the bar doesn’t open until 9pm.
I glanced over at the taxi stand at the bottom of the steps in front of LDV, and decided that maybe I would visit Playboy first, and then return to LDV a little later.
So, I took a taxi to Playboy. I thought Playboy was a strip club, and I think there is some stripping going on there, but when I arrived, the place was really dead. There were only a few girls to be seen, and I was the only patron in the house. Obviously, I was too early, and later I discovered that Playboy may be more of a Casa type of establishment than a conventional strip club. I never really figured it out. In fact, when I was there I ordered a Coke Lite to drink.
I sat and drank my Coke Lite, and when I decided it was time to leave because things were so dead, they didn’t even charge me for the Coke Lite. They just waived me off like they were sorry it was so dead in there. I guess they hoped I would return later and they were embarrassed at the prospect of charging me for a Coke Lite when all I did was just sit there.
I did talk to a young lady for several minutes, and there were a couple of girls running in and out of the front door of the building, but there did not seem to be any effort being made to work the crowd, which only consisted of a couple of guys at most by the time I decided to leave. When I was walking out the front door, a young girl did smile at me and ask me to come back later to see her. I don’t know why she was running in and out of the building and didn’t come over to see me in the first place. It was like they didn’t really want to work that night.
Anyway, I lost interest in remaining at Playboy, and decided I had wasted enough time there. I decided to head over to LDV because it was now at least 9:30pm, and I was hoping I could find something going on over at LDV.
By the time I got back to LDV, I was feeling tired and decided that it may be better to take a short nap, and then venture over to LDV in an hour or two. So, I returned to the apartment, where I rested for a couple of hours and ended up back over at LDV around 10:30pm. or 11pm. I don’t really remember the exact time, but it was relatively late.
My first impressions of LDV reminded me of the meat market in San Jose, Costa Rica, specifically of the Blue Marlin. The women in LDV are pros and they seem relatively cold to me. I was approached by several girls, but I was not approached by the ones that I wanted to get to know. It seemed that the ones I wanted to come see me were never going to, and the ones I didn’t care about were seeking me out.
I sat at a table and sipped a Coke Lite for probably at least 45 minutes. I was approached by a couple of nice girls, but not the flaca morena types that I usually prefer. I noticed that the place was starting to thin out, and that there were fewer and fewer girls. I noticed this trend, and decided that I didn’t want to spend the night alone, and realized that I would have to go on the initiative. Finally, I got tired of waiting for them to come to me, so I picked one out, approached her, struck a deal, and off we went to my apartment. I think she cost me 80,000 pesos for all night.
She was a good sex object, but not a good GFE. I could tell she was starting to thaw out after being with me all night, and I think I could have turned her into a good GFE if I had the time, but unfortunately, I had to leave for my Spanish school in the morning, and I just didn’t have enough time to work her.
Anyway, that concludes my first day in Cartegena. More to come…later.
Bob,
Most taxi drivers earn a commission on what you spend in a place. You want to get one that you pay hourly who will come in and tell the proprietors that they will get no commission. Then you pay a much lower rate.
There is a huge difference between the LDV and the Blue Marlin. The LDV chicas generally will not approach you. They wait to be invited. Make eye contact and wave them over. Or go over and say "hola." Unless you are a loud-mouth ass-hole, they want your business. I'm a fat, old guy and score like there is no tomorrow.
I don't know Alex. But Mery is great.
Surfer,
Thanks for the info.
TravelMen,
H. Caribe is right across the st. from the beach. There are 2 small kiosk/bars where you might be able to pick up a non-pro. If you meet Carlos, owner of a small bar on the beach to your left from the high outdoor clock, stay away from him. He’s dishonest while claiming he will be your best friend. He’ll probably tell you he lived in Texas.
UnospongeBob,
While I was there in July, I had no problem contacting the ladies. Hang around the bar which is easier to make contact than sitting at those tables which seem uninviting. The men I saw sitting there sat alone while some men standing in my vicinity all had women to chat with. The ”10” I saw there looking nordic in appearance, blond was also at the bar. BTY, where is Playboy located?
Mery is very nice. If you should eat at the fish restaurant ”Julia’s” across the street from the little triangular plaza and notice a woman (Claudia?), 40ish, acting like she’s the manager (which she is), say hello from me, man from Dinamarca in July whom ate there MANY times. I miss their fresh meals and hospitality. I’ll be back. I can’t forget she told me Friday nights are Cartagena f--- nights.
Thanks NYC
I found it on the map.
Just wondered if it was chica friendly?
NYC
Julia's is out of business. The Jewish restaurant is moving into their spot.
Pleyboy is out in the barrios. Ask any cab driver. They have a lot of hot chicas. However, their prices are a rip-off.
Unspongebob:
Good report.
If you got an LDV girl for allnight for 80K you did VERY well IMHO.
I never go to LDV before 11pm, and after 1am the quality and numbers will decline but that is prime shopping time.
I told you Mery was an angel; trust NOONE but her in CTG (including the driver who would absolutely get a commision on EVERYTHING you buy if he brings you there).
tomtom
Sorry to hear it. I ate there numerous times in July. Great food reasonably priced.
Another cab driver hanging around Laguito is named Julio. Friendly but no english. I was told he is trust worthy regarding transport. He drove me to the mall, the airport etc. Some cabbies are decent trying to earn a living while others try to rip you off if possible. Always best to have 3000 P for the short rides. Some try to take advantage when they make change from 10000 P. Many do not accept 20000 P because of counterfeits.
Hola mates,
I am writing this report from the internet cafe at Avenida 2, Calle 5 in downtown Cartagena. I am here on a 10 day holiday with board member "Fantasy" and so far happy I made the trip.
Accomodations have been a problem. This is apparently the "high" season (or at least for conventions) because most hotels are full. We stayed one night at the Hotel Las Velas which is the process of being remodeled. The location is great, the rooms are nice but with the ongoing construction enjoying ourselves there would prove to be a big problem. They now want $47 per night with $14 additional for a guest. Prices could well increase after the renovation is completed.
We then checked into the Hotel Almirante which is gorgeous. It is 5 star and with "Fantasys" working his magic at the front desk when we arrived the price for this elegant hotel shrunk to $90 per night. It is offered at $140.
Last night LDV was swamped with women of all shapes and sizes. When I made my selection and hit the exit (at around 1:30 am) there were over 70 women in attendance.
Im very sleepy, tackling this town is hard work! More reports to follow.
Cheers,
FORD
I shall be there from 11-17 Nov.
Ford:
The Almirante web site seems to say $211 per room except during the period I am there.
Can you perhaps get an idea of their best rate for that period?
Is it chica friendly, double bed?
Thanks
Hi Surfer,
I think the LDV girl started out quoting around 125K for all night. I got her for 80K, but I had to beg her to go with me for less than she quoted.
It was a sight to see, and you all would have been proud of me...
I gave her a real pityful sob story. I told her I didn't have any money, and that I wanted to see her, but I was a poor gringo. I told her how I had been looking at her and admiring her beauty all night. I told her I was shy, and worried that she would not go with me because I had very little money.
She must have bought my story. Maybe she felt sorry for me, or was worried that it was getting late. Afterall, she was still standing there in LDV, and maybe she thought that she may not make any money that night, or...as I prefer to think of it, she was HOT for ME :-)...who knows, but off we went at the 80K price.
You would imagine that an LDV girl would be too much of a pro, and a little too mechanical, so initially my expectations were not that great. But, she started to soften up as the night progressed.
I remember she was sleeping peacefully, and the sun had just started to come up. I was already awake, and lying peacefully watching her sleep and admiring her beauty. Then, she must have sensed me looking at her because she slowly opened her eyes, smiled, and with this really "loving" look in her eyes, reached out and started running her hands through my hair.
She must have liked me because it seemed that lust had been replaced by a hint of amor. I wish I could have seen her again, but I got so busy that I just didn't have any time left to find her again. I think I could have turned her into a good LT GFE given a little more time.
Regarding Alex, the taxi driver, he came very highly recommended by Mery. Mery's exact words to me about Alex were, "I trust him completely." That meant a lot to me, and I used him almost exclusively.
I am sure Alex makes commission on everything, and I was anticipating it. It didn't [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] me off that he was trying that little ploy because everybody has to eat, and Alex has a family to support. But, I'm like everybody else. I don't mind spending more for reliable service, but I just didn't see the merit in spending more on gifts to finance a commission.
Don't get me wrong, I don't wish to overpay by too much even for preferred service, but just a little more is fine in exchange for reliability. Alex was always very punctual, reasonable in price, and always a gentleman. The cab fare he charged seemed to always be around the going rate, so I don't think his fares and/or hourly rates are any more than the other taxis charge.
I've never paid over 80K in LDV. Let me tell you that the guys are in charge there, but don't know it. Most girls will go there several nights without being taken out. If they look at their options, 80K or 0, they'll take the 80K. But, there are some important steps. First, speak spanish. If you don't speak good spanish she may hold out for more. Get a rapport with her. Be charming, treat her like a person and not a hooker. If she is attracted to you, she'll want to go with you and money is less of an issue. I've had girls go with me for nothing. The will all start at 150K or more, but will settle for much less. Especially if you laugh at them when they say 150K. I laugh then say that I'll pay 80K, no more. If they say no (which they haven't yet), there are many more options.
Those are RIDICULOUS prices for Almirante; book through a Colombian travel agent and you'll get a much better rate. $47 +14 guest fee at Las Velas? Ridiculous. I know the peso has appreciated about 10% but these rates are ridiculously higher than just a few months ago.
Then again, apartments are so much of a better deal in CTG than hotels . . . .
Surf,
TM is talking about Miss Colombia time. Generally rates are doubled then.
80 K is not unreasonable at LDV at all. The other posters are correct there are tons of girls sitting around with nothing to do, many are going home alone and with an empty purse. They start out at about 140K but will be willing to bargain at bargain and bargain.
Apartments are a much better deal but ALL were full when we arrived. Not available for 10 nights only 4 or 5 and then we would have to move. Many conventions in town.
Almirante has one HUGE advantage over all other accomodations however - the contestants for the preliminary rounds for the Miss Colombia pagaent are all staying at the Almirante this week!! We have suites on floor 11 they are in suites on floor 12! Easily 100 gorgeous women! The eye candy around the pool is ´OFF the FRIGIN´ METER!´
Some things you just cant put a price tag on!
Cheers,
FORD
BTW,
One more thought as board member chido said speaking Spanish is of course very important!
My Spanish is strong and I wouldn´t be having even 10% of the fun I´m having without it.
Cheers.
All is well in Cartagena.
I just dismissed my two day novia. Now back to the pool to join Ford and on with the hunt. we have discovered a total of 11 casas. No need to visit ldv every night anymore. I hope ford posts the pictures of the girl he had on monday night. She was an 11.5 minimum. There is hope for this guy yet. Tommorrow we are having a group picture with the 23 finalists from Miss Colombia pageant. They are practicing all week for the upcoming contest. Ford has over 75 photos of them in g- strings at the pool. I have had the culo of the new Miss Colombia within ten inches of my face yesterday.
Ford,
I will be in Cartagena next week, getting in on Monday afternoon and I already have reservations at the Almirante which is where I always stay. Do you know if the reinas will still be there next week? If the preliminaries are over before next week, why don't you talk a couple dozen of them into staying on an extra week? I'll be your friend forever!
Go to the Traje del Baño competition at the Hilton on Saturday night (11/13 I believe) and you can take pictures of the culos from 10 inches away. Really I was SO close last year I needed a wide angle lens!
Get tickets IUN ADVANCE! I was VERY lucky to scalp a ticket and I stayed out there awhile and saw NO sellers AT ALL: I only got in because some family brought a baby who was denied entry so they sold me her ticket.
Also, to get CLOSE for photography avoid the pool and go in the garden area just past the gate where the pasarella (runway) begins.
Well I am back from 10 days in Cartagena and am still recovering from the flights. I will post more info incl. my thought and opinions when I get more time. I am too busy, developing my next trip to Central America next month. :)
Almirante Hotel was awesome! 5 stars and myself and Fantasy negotiated between us, (with credit card exchange rates) about $85 per night on average, for suites!
A "typical" afternoon around the Almirante pool.
Shout out to Travelman!
Dude, your killin' me! (lol) I sent you a lengthy pm answering your question to me and it said your pm box is full so it deleted it.
Delete some mesages and I'll write it again. I think if all your outgoing and incoming pm's add up to 99 its full (or something like that)
FORD
FORD
I have now. Didn't have that many messages though. Strange.
I'm now comparison shopping for Caribbean destinations that combine good scuba diving and womanizing.
So far I'm looking at Roatan, Curacao and Cartagena in Colombia. I'll also post this message on those boards. I guess Costa Rica and the Dominican Republic are also possibilities. I've only been to Grenada and I can say it's definitely not a good mongering destination.
So I'd like to know about places where I can find the best of the following:
Diving Scene:
Accessible diving (as in can go out, dive twice, and be back before 4 pm or so)
Affordable (no more than about $75 for 2 dives with my own gear)
Good, meaning not Palau or Maldives good. But not a total waste of time looking at nothing. An occasional quality sighting, like a sea turtle or colorful nudibranch, will do.
The mongering scene is mostly covered already on the respective boards so I won't ask for much detail about that. Just want to hear about the best places to combine watery diving with dry land diving.
How do you book the Almirante?
There web site gives no email or even a phone number.
Got a PM from Ford saying the Caribe is not chica friendly. dam.
the hilton is full.
Not good.
Caribe is not chica-friendly and costly - $145 per night. (pricey)
Remember, however this is Latin America and just about anything can be negotiated if you go about it the right way! ;)
***** JESSICA *****
(from Pleyboy Club)
Mahku,
I know nothing about diving. But CTG is cheap. There are two dive shops in my barrio. The waters around Playa Blanca and the Rosario Islands are gorgeous.
Another of pretty 19 year old Jessica.
***** JESSICA *****
Enough of your love life Senior Ford!!
Life is rough!
Hi,
Do any of you know the price of a ticket from Panama City to Cartagena? Can they be bought at the airport in Panama? I have a flight to Panama and would like to make a run to Cartagena. Any advice on this? Airline, price, buy in advance or there, etc.
Thanks
I think COPA is the ONLY game in town on that routing unless you want to pay more and transit BOG (on Avianca). Cost typically is somewhat over $200RT for the 1 hour flight if bought on internet; travel agents in Panama City can almost surely get better prices than internet or walkup fares.
The ticket will pay for itself after 2 days of mongering (Panama has Colombianas at more than double the price they'd get back home).
Another "notch on the belt" - beautiful 22 year old Isabella Villaje.
(Pleyboy Club, Cartagena Colombia)
***** ISABELLA *****
Ford,
If you don't mind, here is a picture of how your girl looks in a larger suite. Same girl, i just think she looks better in my room. To bad all I got was this photo. She did however, give me a dirty look at breakfast also.
Stunning Isabella! (ready for bedtime)
***** ISABELLA *****
Any idea if the Charleston is chica friendly. I read on WSA it is?
Is there any point in staying in Laguita/Bocogrande apart from the beach and LDV.
I thought maybe stay in the Charleston, go to the good restaurants and bars, then get a taxi to LDV later.
I shall be there during the pageant.
Will the traffic be OK later at night?
I got an email from Juan who rents apartments, and he said the Almarante wants over $200/night for the period.
He also said the Caribe may be friendly. I suppose with the right amount of money.
Do you think if the girl looked nice, a small fee would suffice?
This is frustrating
Oh. SURFER. Did you know your mail box is full. I could not PM you
Whoever,
How do I get in touch with Mery at the sol de caribe apts? I will be there CTG on 26 Sept.
Any other apts. close to the action?
Thanks
Travelmen: Will check inbox and delete a lot, thanks for the tip.
You got BIG $$$ if you are staying at Charleston. Worst traffic is going to Hilton in Laguito, not in old city.
JV may be exagerating a bit to get higher rates on his apartments, but EVERYWHERE raises rates that week.
From the old city to Laguito there are basically 2 roads taxi drivers choose to drive on. CRA 1 is the single lane beach road prone to traffic jams.
CRA 2 is the parallel, wide, comm'l road many drivers use instead.
If the pageant bottlenecks traffic, just get out by Hotel Caribe and walk the last 200 meters to LDV. LDV to H. Hilton is another 300 meters approx.
In July one Saturday morning, there was a graduation ceremony at the Hilton. The traffic jam was nasty for 30 min. both before and after the ceremony. If you're staying in Laguito, it's better to walk to the Caribe/CRA 2 corner and quickly get a taxi to the old city.
If you're leaving LDV in the early AM hrs. there shouldn't be trf. jams.
Mahku,
First, let me say that if you find a good diving/mongering location among those you listed, please make sure to let me know where it is!
I'm also always looking for that combination.
Some info:
Cartagena does have 2 dive shops as tomtom mentioned. I have been to CTG twice and never bothered to dive, based on others experiences diving (internet message boards, my Colombian doctor who is an avid diver, etc.) Also, I snorkeled around the Rosario Islands and saw virtually nothing that would indicate good diving there, although granted this is not always foolproof.
The two dive shops wall pictures also were weak.
Costa Rica is beautiful, but check the diving message boards. From what I recall, the only good diving is way offshore and would not fit in to your schedule. I was there before I was certified, so once again this is anecdotal.
Roaton from what I hear is great diving, but on the verge of being "dived out". I think there is another island right by it that is more unspoiled. Mongering possibilities are better on the mainland of Honduras, but the quality of the chicas from pictures I've seen pales in comparison to Colombia.
Dominican Republic: Tons of women and mongering, with maybe a little lower overall quality than Colombia. Tons of dive shops, but really only one or two good locations to dive, and wouldn't you know it, those locations are not near the mongering locations. But always possibilities for local non pros I guess.
Seems from my research that combining good diving with good mongering is difficult in the Caribbean. One possible location for you is San Andres Colombia. Good diving, good chicas. But hard to get to...
The other idea is to take the 24 hour flight to Bali or Thailand or similar. Great diving, tons of ladies....
Let me know if you find the place that works for both hobbies, I'll go with you :-)
Mahku,
I have been to both Curacao and Roatan, within the last year. Both are still excellent dive spots. Roatan is starting to develop, but is not even close to being "dived out". The other island is Utila, which has more of a "backpacker" feel to it. No organized P4P action that I am aware of.
Curacao has Campo Alegre, which you can read about in that forum. I can provide detailed info. on these islands if you need it, but won't waste everyone's time here. Send me a PM, if I can help.
Luego
I've never been to Roatan, so I was just going by what I'd read somewhere, (hence the quotation marks around the phrase "dived out").
Also real sorry if I wasted everyones time by posting.
Can anyone tell me, where on the net I can find a good map of Cartagena?
Gracias
Few would argue that the best diving option is San Andres/Provedencia (Isla Gorgona off Buenaventura on the Pacific coast is also highly regarded but VERY remote). San Andres is less than 90 minutes via nonstoip flight from CTG (on Aerorepublica or Inter) or about 2 hours from BOG (on Avianca).
I would bring a chica from elsewhere rather than trying to find one on the islands, but that is me.
The PI, Thailand and Indonesia all offer better diving in closer proximity to p4p action. One reef in SE Asia will have as much biodiversity as exists in the ENTIRE Carib!
Has anyone hung out around the university in Cartagena for local chicas? If so, where on campus is a good place to make contact?
Gracias
Shadow,
No problems, and your post isn't a waste of time. Roatan & Utila just happen to be my favorite dive spots, and I have been twice in the last year. The reef is quite healhty and the diving is very easy & accesible. How long before development will change this is anybody's guess.
I believe the original question was "where is the best COMBINATION of diving & P4P?" As such, Roatan fails the test. Curacao has Campo Alegre, but that's about it for organized P4P. St. Maarten has numerous brothels, but don't know about the diving. The primary location for diving in Costa Rica is the northern Pacific Coast. This would most likely require that you "bring your own" from San Jose.
I am leaving in a few weeks for a two week trip to Thailand. We all know about the availablilty of P4P in the LOS. I will let you know about the quality of the diving once I get back.
Luego
Scotty Monger,
Take me with you man!!!!!
Alright then, looking forward to the report on both mongering and diving.... :-)
Roatan Island is a great dive spot but falls very short on "chica-hunting" - all true! However, if you ever have the chance to move into the interior of Honduras and visit San Pedro Sula and Tegucigalpa. Wowee! The opportunity for GFE and beautiful Hondureanas in these two primary cities is incredible.
I don't think I ever posted my collection of Honduran chicas that I spread on my two trips there. I have got to dig them out!
Don't sell Curacao short either. On my 3 trips to this island I always found the quality to be "top shelf" as well.
Cheers.
Gorgeous Angelica Torres! Perky and ready for a night of fun.
(Another trophy from the Pleyboy Club of Cartagena.)
***** ANGELICA *****
A night with me tends to leave girls a bit disheveled! ;)
(Angelica recovering and catching her breath)
***** ANGELICA *****
Ford: I've heard the EXACT opposite about San Pedro Sula (i.e. nothing event remotely attractive). Be interested to see your pics to refute that.
Angelica is certainly hot; are there chicas of that quality on the game in San Pedro Sula (Or Tegichigalpa)? Post those pics, please.
Surfer,
Be careful of what you "hear", first hand experience is always more valuable.
The "look" of the typical Hondoreana is very attractive but different than Colombianas. If you go to SPS or Tegus you will see literally hundreds of girls with light to medium tans, long black hair, beautiful faces, full breasts and cute curvy backsides all on 104 lb frames! They are all over the place!
They say a picture is worth a thousand words, so here's 1,000 words to support my case.
(she's not the ugliest girl you've ever seen, is she?);)
Cheers.
Not crazy about the quality of that last photo, see if this comes out better.
Last off-topic stuff I promise. This should be on the SPS, Honduras board.
Cheers.
Hot enough!, just a differnet look than the Colombiana. Consider what you have heard to be refuted!
Luego
surfer,
sps in hondo has some nice chicas, i can't compare to ctg because my first trip is sunday, for a week. but the girls on the street and locals are easy to approch and fun. on the whole from the pics i've seen on columbia, the chicas in hondo are not as nice, but there are many to be had.
la ceiba's street scene for working girls is virtually dead, but again the locals are easy to approch and willing.
spanish is required, at least a little.
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Does any one know where the Penthouse is at Exelaria?
Is it a normal club, hotel?
Would you say Pleyboy is any better than LDV in terms of looks and GFE?
Can you take out from there now?
Thanks
To Travelmen, Bob Solomon and the rest thank you very much for your kind words about my photos. I have received 4 pm's complimenting me on the pics - thank you.
O.K. The Pleyboy Club (that's not a misprint, its the way they spell it) is THE tourist "SC" that is on the lips of every cab driver in the city. As soon as you mention that your interest is in women - the taxi drivers will immediately say "Pleyboy Club!" Drivers get a healthy "vig" for referring tourists so they are quick to reccommend it.
It is because of this reason that myself and Fantasy (both experienced travelers) avoided it for the first 3 days of our trip. It doesn't take much experience to know to avoid the Gringo tourist traps at all costs.
One night (for the goof) we decided to check it out, and we were pleasantly surprised. It is a SC, in that it has mirrored walls, a stripper pole and a small stage but that's where the similarities end. Management apparently doesn't require any of the girls to strip or even dance for that matter and they don't. The entire house of available girls totals 23 and they live upstairs and in adjoining rooms. They come downstairs at around 8 pm and just sit around to meet tourists and do some "styling" in hopes of being selected.
The price is 70,000 peso salida and 200,000 for all night. Fantasy and I quickly negotiated that down to 50,000 and 140,000 for all night or based on our exchange rate at the time roughly $73.
The benefit to the Pleyboy Club is that there are a considerable number of very sexy young ladies who (generally speaking) are agreeable, accomodating and open-minded.
Cheers.
To continue to answer your question Travelmen, I think LDV has a great deal of potential for everything! There are also a number of very pretty young ladies here as well and of course there is NO salida and NO set price guidelines.
However, I found my girls at Pleyboy to be VERY GFE. This of course could have something to do with the fact that I was lucky in my selection or it may have something to do with me. (I speak very good Spanish, and I'm not exactly the ugliest guy in the world. ;))
The girls at LDV as I said have great potential and they cost less $. However, if their performance, attitude is sub-par then you have no one to complain to and even though LDV is not a SC, make no mistake about it many of these girls are very much "pros" in their demeanor and in their attitude.
(I'll try to dig up some more pics) :)
Cheers,
FORD
I spend a few days in CTG last week. I didn't know the contestants were in town, but I think they left the day I arrived. I didn't see any sign of them anywhere. Ford, I expect to see more of the poolside fotos.
I'm going to be there for the pageant week in November and I'd like to get a preview of what I'm in for, but I already have high expectations. I've arranged for an apartment next door to the Torre Centauro. Anyone who will be in CTG for the week of the contest and would like to meet for a beer or dinner let me know.
I've seen questions about hotels and I stayed on a hotel only once, on my first visit to Cartagena. It was at the Caribe. Overall, a very comfortable hotel with a nice pool area. Downside, they charged me to bring a girl home. I checked out the next day. Apartments are the only way to go.
September is slow time, and there were very few regular girls to go after, which I prefer. I'm fluent and keep myself in good shape and dress well, so I go for regular girls on vacation before paying, usually with success. Of course I do pay on occasion and am not opposed to the idea. My only action was LDV unfortunately, so nothing great to report from this trip.
Here is a picture of a girl I met on the last trip. You can find her upstairs at Tu Candela. I spent several days with her at no cost other than food and entertainment. I think she was waiting for some money though. I normally would not post her picture since she was not working with me, but she is definitely working now and she pissed me off on this last trip, so here she is.
Ford: Nice girl indeed. Still can't say Honduras is high on my list.
I avoided Pleyboy club for many of the samne reasons as you, but will check it out next time as GFE is like oxygen to me; I'll take a GFE 7 over a bitchy 10 any day. Thanks for sharing. Suerte.
Surfer,
I agree 100%, a GFE 7 is head-over-heels better than a moody, stuck up 10! Very true.
Thanks Ford.
So Pleyboy is worth at least a visit.
By the sounds of it you got more GFE at Pleyboy too.
Do the girls look better than LDV?
From what you say it is better all round, just more expensive.
Were there more girls than LDV?
Was it a good chica/male ratio?
I must try it.
I would like to add my comments that the economics alone makes LDV a good choice. The four nights I visited LDV, all the women gave nice experiences while in LDV and afterwards in my room. Just one of them was not GFE but still a good f---, not rushed. The others were VERY GFE. One spent 9 hrs. with me, 3 shots for 125000 P. She didn't want to leave the next morning. I gave her a tip which she deserved.
Why pay salida. You can use that money to buy her a few drinks, flirt, dance, make her feel desirable or just give it to her for some "extras" beyond normal expectations, without overpaying of course. In return, she will treat you well. I can't complain. They were excellent choices in my opinion. At least 30-50+ each night to choose from. YMMV.
I will probably visit CTG again, so my curiosity will get me to Pleyboy just to see what's available.
Another of Isabella from Pleyboy.
***** ISABELLA *****
***** JESSICA *****
(stunning isn't she? From Pleyboy Club)
To NYC Expat,
You are of course, correct. If you "hit" a solid 8 GFE from LDV, then this is a better deal all around. There is NO salida and the price for all night fun is VERY negotiable. (150,000....120,000....100,000.....or even 80,000 maybe, it depends on your negotiating skills)
Cheers.
Ford,
Great collection of beauties once again! It seems wherever in the world you go you meet an amazing selection of gorgeous women!
Cheers to you too, you lucky bastard. ;)
L' King
Hi Ford,
Yes, the girls in LDV are willing to negotiate prices even though they ask for 150-200000 P as starters. I personally think if you treat them decent and there's some attraction for enjoyment that night, they are willing to come down in price. Realize also the more attractive, "hot" she is, the higher you'll pay.
The club begins to thin out after 2 A.M. So time is an advantage for us.
So why are girls charging more at Pleyboy
Do they look better than LDV?
Why would a girl work at LDV if she can get a better price at Pleyboy?
Or is LDV more local and less touristy.
Travelmen,
It seems to me the reason that Pleyboy charges more than LDV has to do with the fact that the management has created a kind of price structure to be followed by all the girls. However, the "screening process" has already taken place at Pleyboy and many of the girls that work there are quite beautiful.
LDV has many more freelancers, semi-pros and as such the prices are set entirely on "what the market shall bear". In this dynamic, negotiating skills are most important.
Why would a girl work at LDV when she can make more money at Pleyboy? -
1) She's not cute enough to get hired at Pleyboy.
2) Tremendous competition results in her not getting selected often enough.
3) She wants to live with her family/kids and not in a room above or adjacent to a stripclub.
FORD
The girls are brought on contract to the other clubs. So, you have the classic brothel strcture.
I just received a PM that read
- "C'mon FORD, did you and Fantasy really stay at the same hotel as the Miss Colombia contestants and hang out with them everyday at the restaurant and around the pool?" "Is that really true?"
I thought my "creds" on this board were worth more than that. I mean did you all think I was making it up?
This photo was taken at Italian theme night in the restaurant at the Almirante. Fantasy and I had just finished dinner and this is what was waiting at the buffet table. ;)
All %100 true!
Cheers.
Don't know which contestant this is - but she sure has my vote! :)
Ford,
As usual you are in another league then the rest of us! You get a photo of the hottest women in the entire country of Colombia around a buffet table and in string bikinis!
You're amazing.
Pretty woman, street scene, July 04.
BTW, 2 of the women I took home from LDV said they had daytime jobs with a child at home. They simply need the money.
Attn: Whitelight
Why don't you remove that pic of the 16 yr old!? That shit ain't kool!
Vallenato
I must add on a serious note, that traveling and mongering with Senior Ford was quite rewarding. I look forward to our upcoming journeys into unchartered waters. Our goal is to add several new destinations to the list of available mongering spots.
16? Come on we need some minimum standards here!
Thanks Fantasy!
Alot of board members don't realize that when you meet Fantasy in person you quickly realize that the wealth of knowledge he posseses about the "playgrounds" of the western hemisphere is staggering! Excl. travel mate!
***** Angelica *****
(Its "scary" how cute this girl is :))
One more that was "clogging up" my hard drive. ;)
***** ANGELICA *****
Angelika is an angel. One of the most gorgeous women I've ever laid my squinty eyes on.
I agree Angelika is quite attractive, but if Ferloga says one of the best he has ever seen I need to examine her more closely as that is a bold claim for a Colombia vet like Ferolga. (:
Thanks to everyone for the info about diving in Cartagena. From all the sources I've checked it seems to get mixed reviews. But of the 3 places I'm mainly looking at it has the best womanizing possibilities. So it's going to be a tough choice.
Yes, I know that Asia has the best diving/mongering setups. But this time I have to go to Florida to see the family so I only have one week free and it has to be in the Caribbean. I usually do go to Thailand, Philippines, Indonesia, etc. so if anyone has questions about those places feel free to ask.
When I make a choice and go to that place I'll make sure to write a report. Thanks again to everyone.
Ford,
Since you like such good looking women you must go to Caracas as well! The talent pool there is IMHO far superior to that in Cartagena. There is also alot less attitude than one would think coming from the women of Caracas. I think the economic crash really has humbled them!
Help!
Decameron Hotel any reports on that place Chica friendly and all that?
I stayed at that reseort in Panama City, and it was rated 3 Stars but for the service alone I give it 4 Stars.
I have a flight booked for Lima already, for Thanksgiving, but hell I owe much more thanks to CTG, just check out my pics!
Steve_28: Fuck Lima Colombia is your best bet for your entrtainment dollar or peso! Steve make Cartagena your first pick over Lima. Price is about the same.
From what I can recall about Lima historic value Lima sucked, but hell that is all I was doing do so hard to call that one!
Cartagena, the old city is absolutely bonita, rich in history, and do not worry to much about the fear factor, like I have reported before that I have visted the absolute worse ghettos in Cartagena, with no problem at all.
But do keep in mind I'm a light skin black guy, so I tend to stand out a little bit less, but not by much. Dude trust me CTG is a must, hell it is right up there with Rio and Thailand, but it is just our little known paradise is all!
Surfer: Damn dude when I grow up I think that I'm going to be just like you! Hell I've been to Thailand, Japan, Lima, Panama, Costa Rica, Margarita Island, CCS, Rio, all over Mexico, and the U.S. best beaches, a few countries in the Caribbean, and Cental America, but!
But Colombia keeps calling my name! Steve cum back to Jamaica, I mean Colombia!
Guys,
Look first of all I'm no cheap bastard at all, I once tiped a guy $20 on a $15 dollar resturant bill, because his service was fucking out standing and I hate to tip. It is total bull shit, why pay a guy for a service that is expected of him?
I'll cut to the chase here! 100k to 200k, at LDV, for tail, are you guys nuts?
Guys Latina Passion is 41 years old, and the most I have paid is 100K for ALL night long!
And I hved talked them down from a 100K to 65K, for all night long and the 65K chica pic is posted her on the forum!
And she was one of JT's chicas, that he calls the big tit chica!
Check out my pics, with the two Chicas! The one in pink is my chica, the one in red was a gift that my b--- shared with me!
My god the story don't end there, by a long shot! Guys at 3am I had wall to wall chicas (about 6) that just wanted to party!
My point is what you do not see in my pics is me and the other chica in the red licking my chicas pussy, what you do not see is as I'm fucking my chica the chica in the red is licking my balls and yes my ass whole!
What I did not tell you in my first report in May, is that I woke up the nxt day, I walked into the other bedroom and just touhed chica in the red and it was on and cracking, fucked the shit out of her. As I type this I have a big ass smile on my face from ear to ear!
So that morning I ask my girl how much do I owe her and her friend, for all of that fun? She tells me papi, me nada, just give her 50K for the drinks that she had purchased and for the show!
She tells me that was my treat from her to me!
My point is I'm 41 if I can get tail like that so can you! Just talk the talk! They know what you want to hear, all you have to do is tell them what they want to hear!
WHY PAY MORE?
Latina P.
I'm white. I stood out and I walked the Walled City for hrs. during the day and a really long time at night (9:30-12) without problems. Also walked from Laguito to the Walled City, walked around the comm'l district in city center and some other places. I explored much of Bocagrande also. CTG is probably COL's safest city for gringos.
The Walled City is a MUST on your list of things to do, besides doing females, "S". Plaza de Bolivar there, is recommendable for contacting non-pros on their lunch break from work or from the Univ. See my earlier post dated 9-03 with photo incl.
I second that. Cartagena IS Colombias "savest"city!!! No doubts.
Had no probs whatsoever during my 4 weeks stay there last year in october. And sometimes I also walked alone at night in Laguito,..and even in the center.
However NOT all barrios are 100% safe......personaly I should skip Getsemani;-) at night.......
BUT......(there is always a but...isn't there?) CTG has THE most vicious,staggering and hard headed street vendors I ever met!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
O boy............they SUCK. nearly had to wack one at a bathroom of a restaurant...were i was with my chica at that time. The guy even followed me in there to offer me his shit. They keep on calling "amigo...amigo"all day to me...and that even whgen I got a tan...and thought I was clearly very low profile. YEAH RIGHT!
That WAS/IS a mayor downer on the city...let me tell you that.
Johan.
I also walked on the main street in Getsemani to the bridge and back to Puerta del Reloj during the day. In addition, the street facing the bay in Getsemani with many bars and night clubs without a problem. This was after 11 PM. The smaller and darker streets in Getsemani is NOT suggested for exploring at night.
Have any of you guys stayed at the Hotel Santa Clara in the old city? I know it's expensive ($200) but it's very, very nice. I married a girl from Barranquilla and we would sometimes stay there while in Cartagena.
Before I met her, I brought one of the hottest pro's back there that I have ever had. This was back in 2000, but the mgmt never said a word about her coming in.
NYC: Laquito to the Walled City? I hope that was a day time walk for you!
NYC:This will be my third trip to CTG this year, and I agree with you the old city is absolutely breath taking. Hell I think I might even post some pics of it now that you bring it up.
This time I'm staying away from the action in Laquito, I'm just a little tired of being a *****! So I decide to hook up with a few girls that I met on my first trip there.
Decameron Hotel any Word does anyone have any news on that place. I went through all of the pages here and found no word on the place at all!
In the future when booking for the Alamrante tell them you want the corportate rate, which I believe was $65usd or 150,000. I always tell them i am with Citibank. THey never ask any questions.
Johan007 wrote:
BUT......(there is always a but...isn't there?) CTG has THE most vicious,staggering and hard headed street vendors I ever met!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
......... Amen to that Johan! You are 100% correct, they are absolutely unbelievable!
I wish I had a dollar for every, wristwatch, pair of sunglasses, tee-shirt, painting, or wood-carved piece of crap that I was offered!
"Giorgio Armani, senor!!"
"Authentic Giorgio Armani, senor!!"
Ford,
I guess they heard you purchased 15 soccer shirts! I am just glad we chose the almirante. however, living with twenty three "MISS COLOMBIA "contestants for a full week made up for alot of the BS on the street.
Guys,
IF you want to do sometricky business (which I can NOT commend to anyone) you even get second hand cars,cell phones,gilrs(!!) and handguns from those streetvendors.
I mean at frist they come up with some shitty sunglasses from Thailand or China...and they end up asking you if you wanna buy a berreta handgun!!!! They are fuckin crazy! The cigars they have are mostly NOT genuine...allthough they swear at their mothers grave they are real Cuban's...LOL.
If you are a forreigner...nomatter what color...or country you are THEY know you are a forreigner (no matter how good you speak spanish)...and they will keep on nagging your head untill you are far away.
The best thing is to IGNORE them completely. DO not start to discuss with these guys......
I have seen some pretty frisky guys in DR,Brasil.....but those Cartageneros beat everything.
Some of those punks start to tell their whole (sad) family story that they have 8 kids,a sick grannie and a wife that's in the hospital with lung embolimia...or whatever disease....YEAH RIGHT!
THEY REALY GOT ON MY NERVS!!!! At Times they even started to work on my chica...in order to let me buy some shit of them!!!
FUCK EM.
Johan.
PS: NYC expat....I was talking about the smaller streets of getsimani you metioned. However here are still many fuck houses to be found!!!Mostly for colombian gents (or eastern European sailors!!) that want a quicky. Most turists don't know this shit. I can't recommonemdany of those fuckhouses...too dirty...and very low class women.
Besides that it is DANGEROUS!
DeCameron NOT guest friendly by ALL accounts.
Re the vendors, I agree with JOHAN. The WORST thing you can do is acknowledge them (even making eye contact will ENCOURAGE them!). Walk swiftly as if they were invisible. Scowling a bit never hurts, or, if you MUST say something, say "no molestame.Estpoy enojado . . ." then just start ranting about something, ANYthing. Or wear walkman headphones (even if no music).
Cartagena and Kuta Beach (Bali) are the two worst meccas for aggressive vendors I've experienced, though i have heard stories about India being even worse. Bali is supposedly much better after the Sari Club incident in October of '02.
Fantasy,
O.K. I did buy some soccer jerseys, you're right, but at least I wasn't tempted to buy the tablecloth from that guy! ;)
I always wear a Walkman in the third world to avoid talking to the hawkers.
From Laguito to the Walled City during the daytime is a nice walk on CRA 1 (starts/ends by Hotel Caribe) which is parallel with the beach. Eventually the beach road becomes another road heading into city center. Here is the military hospital with armed guards on the sidewalk whom btw said a nice hello to me.
Once you pass that and a gas station, you get to a traffic circle with a corner of the walled city and another coastal road on one side and a road with booths where vendors sell trips to Rosario, juice etc. on the other side. Another 200 meters you’ll arrive at Puerta del Reloj and main entrance to the walled city.
Several members have expressed their experiences regarding the vendors. For any newbies, there are many so-called currency exchange touts on the street around the walled city entrance and Plaza de La Coches offering 3500 P to one dollar. You’ll stand out so they approach you speaking english. I found these fellows to be worse than the vendors in and around Bocagrande. Word of caution, don’t speak with them in any language. Ignore them completely. If you allow them to exchange dollars, you’ll get ripped off. Exchange dollars in legitimate establishments or use an ATM card.
Instead of walking on CRA 1 towards city center, you can eventually walk on CRA 2 (Av San Martín) which is the wide blvd. with many restaurants and stores. There are some touts here also but I ignored them.
This post is intended as information to perhaps newbies whom already read earlier posts concerning The Walled City, Bocagrande and Laguito. The old fort is also a tourist attraction but I have not visited as yet.
Plaza de la Aduana inside "The Walled City".
A street in the walled city in the rain.
Here is a pic of the fort
I am in favor of posting some photos, with limitations, of scenery in addition to the women. These photos provide excellent incite for potential visitors what can be expected while they contemplate a trip.
Hey, NYC Expat I give you credit that you even HAVE photos of scenery and landscapes.
I've probably taken 600+ photos on my trips in Latin America - and I have yet to test to see if my camera even works outside! ;)
Cheers.
Just got back from CTG and had a fantastic time. Stayed with a friend who lives there in a condo in Crespo, not far from the action.
I was at LDV almost every night taking a different girl home every night. The bodies are fantastic. Most of my women were in their early 20's youngest was 20. Price varied but the standard was 100,000 for an hour or 150000 for all night. Only a couple stayed the whole night or at least until 6 or 7 am. After awhile I only took short timers because I didn't want the hasle of walking them out of the condo and finding them a taxi at that early hour.
I met one girl on the street that I ended up spending a couple different nights with. She had a great body and was happy to take less money than the LDV girls.
I also went to A Foriegn Affair and paid $25 a girl to meet non working girls. Now I know this doesn't fit in with most of yous guys agendas, but I found it interesting and ended up meeting a beautiful chica, Ana, who wants to have a GFE. Even though I didn't accually "do the deed" with her, I know the next trip with be well worth my patience. After I dropped the non working girls off I'd go to LDV for dancing and what I really wanted, I was happy.
I plan to go next month to hook up with the Ana, but I understand the city is full of rowdy Italians and Americans. Also, Dec. is busy with tourists, I've been told off peak season a guy has less compitition.
Good luck to all that go and you will leave with a happy face.....
I will post a couple of photos of girls from LDV on the photo page.
Ciao, Whitelight
Cartagena is a beautiful place to set up shop for a month or so. It is quiet during the week, but goes off on the weekend. It is the only place I have ever been where consitantly there are more girls than guys at the bars. You can rent a great apartment in boca grande and the girls will be fighting over you.
The fantasy club is an after hour spot where the only let the hotties in. The uglies are waiting at the entrance like dogs begging under the table. Here is a pic of a college girl I saw for awhile. Don't be afraid of Colombia, nicest people in the world. Counting the days untill my return.
Hi Whitelight,
you don't need to worry about ANY forreign tourists in CTG....I was there 4 weeks last october and I only saw 2 americans and ONE Italian. Most Americans (still) travel to Cali,medellin or Bogota.
This is NOT Fortaleza,Rio,Isla margarita or Varadero!!!!!!!!!!!
Sure there are tourists,but they are mainly (richer) colombians from Bogota.Medellin or orther cites.
The only thing that can happen is that sometimes ships from eastern Europe (Russia,Bulgaria,Greece or Rumania) dock in CTG...mostly they only stay 2-4 days.
However the numbers of sailors from abroad are never intimidating. And Colombian police (militairy as well as national) is always nearby to watch them........just in case they wanna "get tough".....LOL
I think you should worry more about the F*ckin'streetvendors!!!!!!!!!!!!
have fun!
Johan.
Hi Pharcyde09,
Welcome aboard.
Where is the fantasy club?. Would like to try it during my next visit.
Johan may not have seen them, but there are fair numbers of Americans in CTG though October is considered low season. November will be VERY busy, especially first two weeks (Miss Colombia). There are far more American (and all other nationalities) sex tourists in CTG than ANY other Colombian city so I must disagree with Johan. This is a fact.
Pharcyde09,
Looks like the inside of Giro Matto. This is where most of the hookers go when LDV and other places like LDV close. Most of the girls you see in there are hookers. The ones left outside are ones who have caused problems inside in the past (think catfights). They let in anyone with money. My last trip this place seemed to have really gone downhill. On earlier trips, there were some good crowds there. The last time appeared to be mostly hard core girls. It does not open till 3 and it really is not until 4 that it starts to fill up. By the time you get a girl home and start having sex with her, it's after 5. Kiss most of the next day goodbye.
The Fantasy club is located in the middle of old town in cartagena. Maybe two blocks in from colombus square. I am sure some questioning could lead you there. I have never seen more hotties in one place with the exception of medellion. I have been all over Asia and nothing beats the swagger and passion of the babies.
Good luck and well worth the search
You should never pay more than 80,000 a night and really you should get it for free. They are literally knocking down your door to meet you. They see so few americans that I was routinely mistaken as Italian. I can baretly spell pizza. First time and last time that has ever happened.
Good Luck
More Colombian babies
November is also when an American marriage agency arranges meetings for many Americans visiting CTG with potential Colombian "candidates".
Anyone know exactly which hotel these dinners occur. Could be good possibilities to "crash" the party or meet some non-pros on their way home.
Hey Surfer ... or any "Cartagena smart" person out there ...
How is January for a trip out there?
I've only been there in the Summer months.
I have to agree with you about the tourists I've seen ... always a boat load of Italianos ... everywhere you go in Cartagena ... to see only one Italiano in 4 weeks like Johan said ... incredible.
Thanks in advance ...
TLC (Loveme.com) had their last trip to Cartegena on Aug 20-22. They had a reception and photoshoot for the girls on that Saturday evening on the top floor of one of the hotels. I tried to get in Saturday but they had a table and asked alot of questions. I finally left.
Did anybody here go to their socials?? Anything good there for the pickings??
Most Italians have their holidays in July and/or august. (see the Fortaleza section...)
Maybe there were Italians....but I didn't noticed them;as they normaly speak some spanish. (Italian is also a latina language;and spanish is not very difficult to learn for italian speakers and vice versa)
I hardly saw any forreigners in Cartagena....but that was low saizon. I spend time in many areas of the city. I also was in 4 or 5 travel agencies to book my trip to the Islas del Rosarios...never saw one forreigner. I was the only one.
The time that large US cruisers came in is far behind.(due to terrorism and guerilla activities).
But i would not be surprised if the large cruisers from the US would again dock in CTG within now and a year or 2.
CTG is still the most save city in Colombia. Many large (internatonal) conferencies and government meetings are held here. Bogota is considered far more dangerous.
In January it is still considered high saizon. (certainly the first half)
All prices will have gone up....hotels,tickets...and yes...I think also the prices of hookers.
Johan.
Johan ... Thanks for the info ... think I'll plan for the end of Jan ...
Chido --
*Hot* girl!
But, even more importantly, does the photo imply you found a nude beach somewhere? Care to reveal where?
Guys,
as far I know nudistic beaches are forbidden in Colombia. I never saw one woman nude in CTG.(that is ON the beach....jejeje)
However I heard that some km's outside CTG was a small (illegal?) nude beach.
You'd have to go there by taxi (or your rented wheels)! I am sorry but I forget the name of that beach area.
If you realy want to know ask some taxistas or the streetvendors. (get ready for some hassles to buy some shit of theirs...!!!)
As a nudist myself I 'd love to check this out...but at the time being with my (ex) amiga that was impossible.
The colombians are not very liberal in those things...but things are changing!
Johan.
I took her by boat to the island across the bay from laguito. The fisherment will take you there for around $80K. There are many secluded beaches. We found one and spent a couple hours naked there. There's a rumored nudist beach, but I have no idea where it may be.
The "nude beach" I've heard about is any place on Tierrabomba (the Island just South of Laguito) away from land access. You have a boatman drop you & your friend off and either wait at end of beach or come back a few hours later. While unlikely you'd be disturbed out there, IF other people showed up you'd be wise to cover up. Colombian is a Catholic country NOT favorably inclined towards nudism.
Hey, fellow Mongers
I will be making a return to Colombia over New Years. Just Cartagena again. Does anybody know the best airfare specials out there from Miami or Dallas?
Octatron: If you are coming from DFW best to double book this might save you a few hundred books and get a better flight!
From Mia to CTG Avianca has non-stop flights from MIA to CTG, best to book on there web site should be no more then $400 round trip, but that all depends on your dates! I've seen specials from MIA to CTG at $299. You can also try Copa Air but most flights from the States they route through Panama! a 3 hour flight will turn into a 6.5 hour flight. Also look at flying from FLL, 45 minutes from MIA!
From DFW try Orbits or Expedia for the best deal!
Octatron,
I second the recommendation for the MIA/CTG nonstop flights.
They are only available on Wednesdays and Sundays though.
Also with taxes and all could be over 400, even closer to 600 depending on the time of year. It's currently 464 for late November early December travel...
Avianca's MIA/CTG cost me close to $600 during semana santa and during the summer. Check in 3 hrs. prior because of long lines and security checks.
I've been getting my Avianca tickets from America Travel 800 346 7889. MIA-CTG $349 no stops.
OOOO yeah...I forget to tell...Semana Santa (Easter) is high season too!!!!!!!!!!!!
;-)
Johan.
Thanks Chido & Surfer.
(The more famous nudist beach is in the Tayrona Park by the way, but apparently its well off the beaten track - too much so for my peace of mind. ymmv)
If America travel has a website, can you please post its URL or non-800 toll-free number if it exists.
Yesterday, I checked Avianca's website quoting $1200.- in mid-January while Delta is asking $717. These are Wednesdays out-inbound.
Does it get cheaper late January into February?.
Thanks.
BTW, USA-Europe can be had for the same prices. The carriers must be making money for a 2½ hr. flight at those costs.
Spent a long weekend in Cartagena in June. My connections were a little silly so it took most of a day to get there and a whole day to get home, but I still had two days and three nights.
Got an apartment from Mery, who is a sweetheart, as advertised. Nice place, right around the corner from Las Velas and across the road from LDV. You can’t beat that!
I basically only had time for a quick tour of the beautiful old city and a little beach time, during my two days. Met Tony 1, who is a crook. As has been suggested, agree to prices, beforehand.
I had read of the “pssst pssst” technique of getting someone’s attention, but was unprepared for it. My first day, after settling in to my apartment, I took a walk around the neighborhood to get my bearings. About ten minutes into that walk, I saw two beautiful young ladies approaching me, and gave them my best smile. As they passed me, I heard, “pssst pssst”. My brain was sadly slow on this one. I turned to look at them, after they had passed, and saw one of them looking back at me. By the time it had clicked in, and I turned a second time, they had rounded a corner in the street, never to be seen again. I made a point of being in the same area the next two days, just in case I might meet up with them again, but no luck!
I spent my three nights at LDV. Due to the shortness of my visit (and LDV’s proximity!), I didn’t manage to get to other venues. WhiteLight’s 20yo.jpg picture, in the photo gallery, barely does her justice. I took the same girl out my first night, and slept that night with my hand on her rock hard butt. My second night I took out a little spinner with a bad attitude, who wanted to charge extra for every little service. Did her once and threw her out. Third night with a strawberry blond who I’d talked to the previous two nights. Not the greatest body but her service was something special.
I swear to you that these girls must grow up on porn videos. Their talents and imaginations are worth every minute spent. I wasn’t knocked over by the quality available, but I guess it was low season.
So three nights, three girls. Will I go back? I’ll be there between Christmas and New Year. If any of you are in around, let me know!
NYC Expat:
Believe it does. Peak season starts mid-December, ends sometime mid/late January or early February, I forget which exactly.
Don't forget to check out the specials on the Avianca home page.
ps Google reveals: [url]www.americatravelmiami.com[/url]
Addicted to women:
Thanks
I actually used to buy my tickets to Colombia from AmericaTravel, the co. referenced in the link below...they offer good service and prices.
Genghois,
next time try a "Hola mi amor"....together with a low whisstle sound...
"Hola que linda chica"also might do the thing.
Be sure that you look them right in the eye when you do this....now you don't want to attract a 62 yo grannie......LOL.
Just try....CTG chicas LOVE that shit..........;-)
You don't have to feel embarresed to do this....Costeno men do that all the time!! Even if she doesn't seem to notice you...try it a second time. Don'tgive up after the first time. They want to get played!!
If the chica likes you (and trust me they see a gringo from 200 meters away!),she will stop and say "que dices?"....or something like that.
From then you are on;-)
Johan.
Johan 007,
Is that a technique especially for Columbian girls, or would it work also on other Latinas, (specifically Peruanas?)
Longstroker,
Please I am NOT THE flirting expert on latinas. I can only tell you what I know,what I have been seeing on my trips to DR,Peru,Brasil and Colombia.
(in February I will be 3 weeks in Panama and Costa Rica)
Also I read some articles about this. I am sure when you search on Google (or also other searchengines you will find TONS of stuff about this).
Ok IMHO the whole things depends on a view things:
1) PLACE. Certainly a hot tropical island is a far better area to flirt then on a market place in Cuszco (peru) in the winter where there is 30 cm of snow and your azz gets frozen off!! Get my point?
In countries like Chili,Argentina,Uruguay the women need a different approach,more sofisticated. This is BECAUSE in those countries most women look MORE like Europeans then on Latinas! However in DR,Cuba,Brasil/Colombia (again with respect for some regional differences) the flirting approach can be MORE open...more wild...and even at times pusshy.
2) Attitude of the latina herself. Certainly there are diferences. I think Latinas in DR,Brasil,Colmbia,Cuba let themselves flirt VERY easy!! In Brasil and Colombia however there seem to be regionaly differences. fe....In Bogota too it can be quite cold just as in the deep south of Brasil.
In countries such as Argentina,Chilie or uruguay you can get a hard time in flirting women. Well maybe if you look like Bratt Pitt or like some other Hollywood hotshot....;-)
But in other countries the women are far more open....for flirting like DR,Cuba,Brasl/colombia,Venezuela.
If you'd go to other cities in peru then Lima you will find most women more easy to flirt with because they are not used to large numbers of turists.
Did you was in ciclayo (Peru?) I noticed there many VERY GOOD looking women!!!!
I would say that flirting in downtown Lima (certainly on daytime) can be very difficult because many women have high demands towards guys.
3) YOUR LOOKS!! (yes sir). Do not think that JUST ebing a gringo is good enough to attract women. This shit might work in DR,Honduras,Nicaragua or in Cuba. But high class women that walk the malls in Brasil,Colombia or Peru would not even NOTICE you !!!!!!!!!!
So if you are 53 yo old and look like shit....don't expect to attract a serious girl of 25 yo.........that looks like a 8 or 9 material.
In that case I just stick to the nudie bars,the streetwalkers or the casa de putas!!!
4) WHAT do you want to attract???? A hooker (that's easy!)...a party-girl (shouldn't be too hard either) or a serious girl from a GOOD family that is religeous and wants to get married and wants 2-3 kids??? (that should be more difficult)
Does the girl have a high selfesteem because she has a GOOD job. fe take the pretty women you see downtown Miraflores (in Lima)........with THOSE you can NOT just whistle and say "mi amor"........they just would NOT pay attaention to you;-)
I hope some other mongers here also can give you tips because mine are far from complete I think.
As I am looking also for a decent life partner I want to attarct serious women.
Please NOT forget to SPEAK spanish at all times!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Many girls will feel uncomfortable when they are spoken too in English (or in fact any other strange language for them). Certainly because MOST latinas (still) do NOT speak very good english or even NOT at all.
Johan
Hey Johan ... good tips on "flirting con las chicas".
When you say, speak Spanish at all times, I think there are exceptions to that rule.
When I'm downtown Medellin or Caracas for example, talking English with your buddy ... definitely attracts the chicas ... just the sound of English spoken can get some looks and smiles your way.
As far as speaking with the chicas ... yes, for sure, the Spanish speaking guy has a huge advantage over the rest ... no doubt.
Suerte!!
While I understand Ricker's point, I believe most chicas will know you are extranjero BEFORE you open your mouth. Antifreeze is quite insistent that we NOT speak English loud enough to be heard except in secure places; speaking English may catch the attention of more ladrones than chicas.
Thanks for the advice, Johann. I must admit that she just caught me off guard, and I didn’t have my “game face” on, yet. I promise you that I kept it on, the rest of the trip! Next time, I’ll put it on before I board the plane. You never know who you might end up seated next to.
surfer, i agree, one has to be safe and not advertise that he is a gringo to the wrong people ... however ... i also disagree a bit ...
... yes, in cartagena, the chicas know easily when a gringo is about ... but when in other places ... medellin or caracas or wherever the gringo is less prevalent ... the speaking of english, with a friend or on a cell phone does wonders to attract the chicas.
also ... i think you know ... the bad guys can tell by the way spanish is spoken that someone is not a local either. most gringos can't even say but a few phrases and some rep001tered words anyway i'm guessing.
and if you don't talk at all, in any language, it'll definitely be tough to meet chicas.
suerte !!
Well I tend to agree with Surfer. The women will know in an instant that you are gringo. (yes even if you are coloured!) You don't even have to say a word. They will notice from your clothing...your way of looking or maybe just the way you walk!
Fe., I wear a blonde/redish moustache.....well...I have seen very little Latino guys that wear blonde/redish moustaches.;-)
Also what makes many high class women frown upon is the fact that many turists (and my fellow Dutchmen are world champions in this..!)go in a mall and are dressed like SHIT. I mean they do wear beach clothing like shorts,sandals,baseball caps and sunglasses IN THE MALL. I also wear this...but then I am on the beach...or at the swimmingpool;-) NOT when I go out "for a hunt" in the mall in South-America!
If you watch closely how the latinos are dressed you know what I mean.
The men (mostly) were suits and closed brown/black shoes (and they are SHINNING!!). Remember that in most parts of the mall there is Air conditioning;-)
Needless to say that your Gringo azz will look kindda trashy if you walk with a short and a baseballcap.....!!!!
Many Dutch,English and also some German turists walk within a T-shirt from their beloved football club....!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OOOO what a joy....maybe it was better to write on your backside: I am a gringo...please kick my azz.
Don't forget in most latino countries the dress code is very formal...certainly for men!
In Bulgaria I even some Finnish men wearing T-shirts from their favorite ICE HOCKEY club..complete with shoulder stuffings!!!!!
Well enough said......in short it comes to this: You attract what you wear.
Johan
This subject is probably getting old but ... Johan ... please don't tell me that a latina can tell instantly that a guy is a gringo ... by the way he walks even ... I doubt it. They don't take spotting gringo classes ... I don't think anyway ...
Yes, if you're a big, burly, good looking Norweigan with a big moustache, I think it might be obvious you're not latino.
I've had many instances when chicas ask if I'm from Argentina or Espana because of the way I speak Spanish and the way I look ... blondish guy ... "un Mono" in Colombia ... "un Catire" in Venezuela.
You're correct though, don't dress like a fool if you're looking for the "upper class" type chicas ...
And lastly, I think it's obvious that when visiting a more touristy area, like Cartagena, where Europeans and US gringos frequent, a chica can spot gringos more easily.
When visiting other areas, where gringos don't roam as often, you're not pegged as a gringo right away.
The bottom line is really ... all of us have different skills we use to meet these chicas ... non-pros ... some gringos speak good Spanish, some not ... some are good looking, some not, some dress well, others not ... etc, etc.
You can use the English speaking as an initial attraction tool, then speak Spanish, dress nicely like Johan speaks of, and just be nice and polite ... these chicas really dig that ... a gentlemen.
And when you can make them laugh and smile ... you gottem' ... all IMHO.
Suerte!
Just to change the subject a bit.
Where would you guys say are the in normal disco's at the moment where the classy locals go to party.
I don't know if the previous posts are still valid.
I shall be there in 2 weeks.
Also, what time does Pleyboy start to thin out. I thought try the non pro's first and have some fun , then hit Pleyboy/LDV.
Thanks
Over one week without postings on this thread. Does anyone have any comments/observations about the pageant or the marriage bureau in town.
Fellas,
I am on a short time table. Got some unexpected time off coming up quick and need your help please.
I am trying to decide between BAQ and Cartagena for about a 12 day trip. Dont want to do both as funds are somewhat limited.
My priorities are meeting regular girls, mongering, and just having a good time in general in a nice city. I have met girls online from both places so it doesnt matter to me which one I go to, whatever the consensus says is the best.
I did find a place called the Hotel Royal in BAQ that offered me US$25 per night with big pool and it looks pretty nice, 4 stars. Anyone know it?
Would it be correct to say that in Barranquilla gringos are in more demand than CArtagena? In other words, not so many gringos go to BAQ?
Any opinions on which place is better? Better chicas? Anything of help will be appreciated.
Thanks fellas
Mikster
Yes gringos are MUCH rarer in BAQ and for nonpros there are more to choose from ( larger city). On the other hand, it lacks the charm of Cartagena and is, if possible, even hotter (less breeze). The P4P options in BAQ of which I am aware are less than stellar. Never found or heard of an LDV style freelancer bar.
But really limited funds is a silly reason to not do both. A 2 hour busride of less than $5 is hardly a budgetbreaker. Taxi is about $40 (100K CP).
I'm probably going to go to BAQ but mainly to hang out with this chica and her friends. I've known her for about a year, her friend is hooked up with this Italian guy I know. I'm not sure I'd go and hang by myself. Can't believe I'm going back next week!!
CARTAGENA AND SAFETY
I've had a few minor and one moderate problem in Cartagena, mostly bullshit about fares/money/etc. Don't let a few bucks get you into some bad shit. Avoid touts like Tony 1, 2 any number Tony. If you hang out for any appreciable length of time you will meet all the beach putas you need. (It gets to the point where the touts are trying to get the chica's phone numbers from you! LOL...)
If you are newbs to the area be careful. Last trip I was asked by my friend in the taxi if I could escort some dudes from the states. So I told him to go in and get them. Dudes come down and invite these two Colombian MEN one whome they'd basically just met off the street to go with us to these casas. WTF??!! Sorry, but it took all of a minute to see where this was heading and it took me an hour to extricate myself from that mess. I told these guys quietly that they should go back, ditch these dudes and get a new cab. Nah, they were going to go to another club with these guys!! I heard it turned kinda ugly fairly quickly and the lads from the USA had to pay like 40X the cost of a cab just to get back home.
Cartagena is different than Cali. While Cali lags in the chica area, it is a LOT mellower in terms of the touts and predators that are out there. Cartagena ya gotta watch ya shit. I've learned that although there are some cool ex-pats there, there are some guys that are stuck there (despite what they say) for a reason. Very shady and watch whom you decide to befriend (the colombians off the street being an obvious example).
I've seen times where there are tons of Americans and many times where I was one of a few guys there. So mild disagree there. I see more older dudes with skrunkles in Colombia as opposed to my other stomping grounds (Thailand).
Some guys pay out the ass despite what is posted here, and it is true that costs is in relation to your looks, savvy, pussiness factor, language and motives of the chica (she may need rent THAT NIGHT).
Overall, shorttime should be around 60-100k depending and all night I wouldn't pay more than 150. Cartagena prices are lower than Cali except for the chicas I met on Sexta. There are exceptions both high and low. Personally I'm on the cheap end to a point. I'm not going to get reamed but I'm not going to stress about 10k or a dinner here and there. Sometimes it's worth it, sometimes it's important to kick a puta out here n' there so your pussiness factor doesn't increase too much.
THE CARTAGENA MARKETPLACE
Cartagena has been growing as an Israeli party area for some time, rapidly I might add, especially due to word of mouth and a few enterprising Israelis who capitalized on that. What does that mean? There is a large contingent of young, chevre, dudes celebrating after their mandatory military commitment. There is a large party scene where the goal of these dudes is basically to drug and fuck many of these same chicas for free. Not to begrudge them, because in my day I was in the same mindset. Go to Giromatro after 2am and you'll see a slice of what I'm talkin 'bout.
I think you have the most fun when you blur the lines between being a gringo (which despite the efforts of most of us here we still stick out, sorry dudes) customer and someone who isn't.
Overall though, I've noticed a few things. Prices are still what the market will bear, but I'd be surprised at any quality coming out of an 80k all nighter.
There are a lot of chicas but the top shelf may be taken or doing a short time then running to her equivalent of the Thai motorcycle taxi dude (but in this case a young stud sharing a penthouse with four other dudes and some coca).
LANGUAGE
I agree with Johann. There is nothing more irritating to have two chicas with you and a dude that insists on speaking only English. It's International -- These chicks get bored! Try to speak Spanish or make an effort at being understood. We're in their country... 'nuff said.
Can someone PM me about this Fantasy Place? It may be a place I know under a Spanish name. Thanks, I'm heading there next week.
Hey, has anyone stayed at Hotel Kokomo in Cartagena? It is a private island that is suppose to be chica friendly. I was thinking of taking a couple of girls out there for a few days. There web site is [url]http://www.hotelkokomo.com[/url]
Any thoughts on this?
This year I managed to be in CTG for all of the pageant. And I saw none of it. There were too many other things to do. The flooding caused two days of activities to be cancelled. A Cartagenero in his late forties told me that he had never seen it flood worse.
Next year I will try to see some of the pageant.
Marriage bureau? Why waste the money? Just stroll down the street, eat in a restaurant, hit a disco, or hang out in Laguito or Centro. I'm a fat, old guy and have to turn them away.
Anyone going to Cartagena for the first time, or even repeat customers may want to use the services of Alex. His email is [email]alexo8316@hotmail.com[/email]. He's a nice young guy who knows alot of people in CTG and can tell you about most any girl or introduce you to any girl you see on the street or the beach or club that you want to meet. He won't want anymore than $50K plus food and drink for the day. He can save you that much alone by not letting you get ripped off by anyone. His cell is 311 420 9605.
Hi, does Las Velas Hotel have a website or e-mail address? I might try to book a trip to Cartagena and would like to contact them about availability. Thanks.
Termas Time
The Las Velas has changed ownership and may not be chica friendly. Apartments are your best bet in Cartagena. Before I bought my apartment, I rented from Juan Ventura at [url]http://www.zepelion.com/apartamentos/index.htm[/url]
hI.. been here to Cartagena about 12X..2 àpts here that I rent... Boca Grande...
chicas ricas for sure... happy to fill anyone in if needed...apts are the way to go for the MOnger for sure...contact me at [email]bm251@aol.com[/email]
[QUOTE=Termas Time]Hi, does Las Velas Hotel have a website or e-mail address? I might try to book a trip to Cartagena and would like to contact them about availability. Thanks.
Termas Time[/QUOTE]
What do you nee to know?
[QUOTE=Poobah]Can someone PM me about this Fantasy Place? It may be a place I know under a Spanish name. Thanks, I'm heading there next week.[/QUOTE]
I would also like to know its location. I'll be in CTG in Febrero. Thanks.
Feliz Navida a todos.
Thanks for the replies everyone, but I would really like the email address or website for Las Velas if possible. Does anyone have this info? I will inquire about their girl policy, if it has changed.
As for apartments, I have never rented an apt while on vacation. Anyone have additional comments on how easy it is? How much should I expect to spend for a week? How do I insure I am not getting a dump?
Thanks.
Termas Time
I don't think that the Las Velas has E-mail. Here is a web site for them: [url]http://www.s-h-systems.co.uk/colombia/cartagena38063.html[/url]. Also, the rules of this site prohibit the posting of E-mail addresses.
As far as apartments, it's very easy. You can make the reservation by E-mail. Then send a deposit by Western Union. When you arrive, you pay cash up front for your entire stay. Expect to pay US$40 to 50 per night for a week's stay for a single during low season about Jan. 17 to March 18, March 28 to June 14, July 16 to Nov. 1, and Nov. 17 to Dec. 14. If you rent from Juan Ventura or Mery Salence, you won't get a dump.
When I went in june, i initially had a reservation at hotel charlotte ($125k/night) but once i got to CTG. Check w/ taxi drivers they know how to get you to an apartment broker, they're also listed in this website and others. I got a 2bd room apt for 100k/night in the tallest pink apt building in CTG, next to McDOnalds. I check out the place before i agree, just ask them to show you the unit.
Reminder: Apt sometimes(mine) did not have bath towels, so you'll have to buy some. ALso, many apts(mine) did not have hot water, not a problem in CTG.
Hi all. In my ongoing noble quest to find good mongering destinations that also have good scuba diving I've decided to try Cartagena. I'll be there from the 26th of January to the 2nd of Feb. I'd be glad to meet up with anyone who will be there at this time and maybe do some damage together.
I got my nonstop Miami to Cartagena ticket for $412 round trip through America Travel (americatravelmiami.com) after it was recommended here. While they eventually got things done I found that they were problematic to use if you're not based in the USA. First of all they don't accept non-US credit cards. Also, they'll only deliver the ticket to the US billing address. This caused me some headaches because I'm based in the United Arab Emirates and I'm only going to Florida, nowhere near my card's Kansas City billing address. So I have to prevail on my poor old mother to send me my ticket for exotic womanizing. If only she knew.... Finally, some other minor irritants about this office: They gave me some hotel rates, only to withdraw them and offer much higher rates right when I was ready to pay. Also they kept adding new hoops to jump through every day about needing faxes and copies of things.
Speaking of the hotel, I'll be in the Almirante at a rate of $85 a night for the seven nights. I got this by emailing the hotel directly.
I'm really looking forward to my first ever Latin America mongering trip.
To Tomtom33,
Thanks for the link to Juan Ventura's apartments. I'm going to save it in my "favorites" he is well known for offering stylish "digs" at good prices.
To Mahku,
Compliments for staying at the Almirante - and at such a good price!! $85 is a steal for a room at this classy hotel. I'm sure you'll enjoy your first trip as a "player" in South America.
(I'll see if I can dig up some photos that will get you excited about your upcoming stay)
Cheers.
View from a 12th floor suite at the Hotel Almirante.
This hotel is on the beach and at the center of the Cartagena scene.
Some "eye-candy" sitting by the pool at the Almirante.
Hey, Fellow Mongers
After much soul searching I've decided to return to Cartagena for two weeks towards the end of January.
I really thought about Cali and Medellin as it just appears more of the stunners are there. But I guess I just let the beach win me out.
Juan Ventura's website does not appear to have prices. Does anybody have any ideas on his average rates (weekly) for 1 bedrooms?
Also does Colombia have any sort of Carnival, I thought I read somewhere that Barranquilla is the place for that.
Also screw American Travel they gave me a terrible rate as well. The best rates are at Avianca directly.
Last time I was there I made the fatal mistake of meeting a girl from amigos.com, and she got me a great apartment for 25 dollars a night in the Marbella area. However she stuck on me like glue.
I'm also considering to purchase an apartment possibly. Here is one website I look at occasionaly.
Paul Juan Realty
About six months ago there were at least 6 apartments listed for under 25K USD.
[url]http://www.cartagenarealty.com/propiedades/propiedades.php?categoria=APARTMENTS[/url]
Anyway, Happy Hunting. I guess I'll have to check out the pool at the Almirante.
Ford,
Thanks for the photos. Looks like a pair of binoculars might come in handy for spying targets on the beach.
Octatron,
Good work getting the better rate from Avianca. When I checked with them a couple of weeks ago they were still saying 430. I guess the fares for the low season are going down. I would like to have waited on my reservation and gotten a lower fare but the Miami to Cartagena nonstop is only once a week and I didn't want it filling up before I could get a seat.
My main problem with America Travel wasn't the price. They were just unwilling to accomodate someone not based in the US. Strange for a company that deals with international travel.
Hey Octatron ...
All the Colombian cities have their respective fiestas at certain times during the year ...
Right now Cali has their's ... thru the end of the year ...
I believe Medellin has it in the Spring ...
... and the other cities as well during the year ...
Juan Ventura charges US$40 to 50 per night for a single during off-season on average for a week's stay.
BAQ's carnival runs 2/5 through 2/8 this year. As it's only about an hour away by cab, you could pop over for the day.
The closest CTG has to a carnival is the Miss Colombia pageant about 11/1 to 11/15. However, the party runs hot and heavy during high season 12/15 to 1/15, Easter week, and 6/15 to 7/15. Actually the party runs pretty much year round.
Cali and MDE do have stunners. Many of them rotate in and out of CTG to earn a few pesos.
I know Paul Juan. He is a good guy. However, you may not want the apartments for less than US$25K. Many of them are in El Conquistador, a crummy building.
I bought my apartment in Laguito with the help of Juan Ventura in December of last year for US$40K(4 bedroom, 3 bath) right above the rental apartment that Juan owns. I put another US$25K into furniture and remodeling. However, the real estate market has been hot. There is a two bedroom, two bath unit in my building for sale at US$70K right now.
Last night, a Wednesday, I visited LDV about 11 pm and attracted 2 very cute girls, about 9s, at LDV. AT 11 pm the girls were just starting to trickle in. One of the chicas was 24 and from Medellin and was working for the past week to make some money for school next year. The other was 22 and from Armenia and worked a month at a time whenever she felt like it. Their asking price for todo la noches started at 240,000 pesos each, or about $100 each, but I took the one from Medellin out for TLN for 150,000 pesos. This was about $65 or $75.
The girl was a real GFE with BBBJ but required preservativo (condom) for intercourse. With Cialis assistance it was a 3 pop night!
There are alot of apartments in Boca Grande you can rent a 1 bedroom apartment close to the ocean for $50 US or 250 a week and you will not have any problem bringing the chica to your apartment. I rented at the tall apartment building next to the McDonalds and above the Davidendo automatica cajera. Just go to the lobby and ask for a room. The minium is 2 nights. They have a pool on the 15th floor. I had to ask for 2 towels, as they seemed to be not normally included. Not much ocean view, a little, but DEfinitely better than a hotel!
As far as buying an apartment in Cartegena, one would need to live here alot of the time to make it worthwhile to buy. There are so many apartments to rent for so little, it makes more sense to rent.
Maybe I will hit Pleyboy club tonight or go back to LDV!
I'm pretty sure Avianca flight 035 (MD-83)is daily(15:15) from Miami & 034 on the return is around 11:00am, those are the ones i'm looking at in March. the rabbit
Non stop flights from Miami to CTG on Avianca are only on Wednesdays and Sundays. Well worth it in my opinion to route yourself that way.
Planning to utilize that option in early February myself :-)
Shadow, not to flame or disrepect you, but Avianca's website (colombia version) shows that Flt 034/035 departed Miami @ 12:58pm and landed at CTG @ 15:33...today's Thursday???? the rabbit
I don't know about the info. on the Avianca site. The MIA-CTG route was run daily by ACES until it went bankrupt. For awhile, the route was not run. Then Avianca took it over daily. Last winter, the route was cut to Wed. and Sun. As far as I know, it is still Wed. and Sun. only. Could this have changed? Yes. The US website(in English) for Avianca is [url]http://www.avianca.us/default.asp?chapter=2[/url]. There is an 800 number for the Miami office. You can choose to speak English on the phone as well.
Yes, I just booked my flight on Avianca leaving Miami on Jan 23. For USD$430.00. I could of gone a little cheaper but not for the dates I wanted to go. Alot better than American Travel.
I'm also working with Juan Ventura for an apartment. I can tell you his rates are pretty good. Don't want to give details, as I'm sure he reads this board. In anycase up to this point his rates he gets for the quality of apartments are decent.
What NPaul mentioned seems like the best way to go for apartments though.
Happy Hunting
No flame taken. I'm sure Avianca flew MIA-CTG today, but did it fly non-stop, or did it stop in Bogota? That is the question :-)
SandRabbit is right. I was looking into other flights for my trip and checking Miami airport's online flight info yesterday (Thursday). It did show a flight arriving from Cartagena, apparently nonstop. Maybe Avianca recently increased the frequency of the route. Or it could just be for the holiday season. I do know that not many weeks ago it was only available on Wednesdays and maybe one other day.
Loved it, what a beautiful city. Found a most amazing shop off the Plaza Santa Domingo with marine related items. Had an awesome time, fell in love. I know I'm a sucker.
The people are great, very friendly. I always feel like I'm treated like a celebrity in these third world nations. Sure, the street vendors hustle hard but, hey, they are just trying to make a living. The first night out I went to the Playboy club, ok yes, the spelling was different. I had hit another club just a few doors down, both had gorgeous chicas. I have never been in a club with so many beautiful women in it as I found in the Playboy Club. I have have been to the Phillipines several times, Subic City in the days of her Glory, and to Mexico several times to some pretty good places, but this place was the best so far. This was in November and I couldn't get a price below a hundred dollars. This girl in the first club seemed to be pretty crazy about me, but said she couldn't get out of the club for less than 100 dollars U.S.. She had even given me her number and asked me to hook up with her the next day, but I never managed to have the time. She was actually a very good looking girl. I wound up paying $150 for this girl out of the Playboy Club who was incredibly beautiful. She was supposed to stay the whole night, but only let me have her twice, and complained when I asked for the second time, although she performed well both times. This girl was very clean and sweet and tight, but she held back from letting herself enjoy things too much. She seemed to like me and had approached me in the club as soon as I entered the place, but had some guilt thing going about enjoying the whole deal. I suspect she was pretty new to the business. With the alcohol buzz I worked her pretty hard and long both times. My Spanish isn't all that good, and had it been better I probably could have negotiated the situation better. I never actually negotiated the deal through her. I was also fairly buzzed and it was very late and I was very tired having just arrived. I highly reccomend that you learn a little Spanish. I have been learning Spanish for about a year and know just enough to get by. I had forgotten to take notes from the forum, and didn't have the information about LVD, or I probably would have went there as I stayed in Larguita.
I rented an apartement for $70 a night, which was a two bedroom looking out over the Caribbean just a block from the Hilton. Cruising the area I actually met Mery by chance who I see mentioned on the forum and got her card. In the future I will book through her for a single for $50 a night. Next time I go I will bring my own set of sheets. The room was nice but the sheets were terrible. Due to events I wound up staying at two different apartments and both apartments had terrible sheets, although otherwise they were decent apartments.
Before going I had exchanged email with several girls from an international dating web site. This paid off enormously, the second girl on the list I hooked up with, I really hit it off with and had a great romantic adventure. I plan on going back to see her in the Spring.
I flew in through Bogata, which I never want to do again. I reccomend that anyone going to Cartagenia avoid this deal, because you wind up spending a twelve hour layover which also means a cab ride into town, a hotel stay, and a cab ride back to the airport which adds around a $100 US to your flight cost effectively, not to mention being very exhausting as well as time consuming.
If I hadn't hooked up so quickly for the whole week, I don't think I would have had any problems finding non-pro action. There were lots of beautiful young women who were definately forward and flirtatious, which I did not find in Mexico, but I did find in the Phillipines. I'm 43, but I keep myself in good shape, dress fairly nice, and am good enough looking to get plenty of attention from the twenty year olds here in the states, if that is any guide. I suspect if you are decent looking, take decent care of yourself, dress decently, and show some class, it's not all that hard for a guy in his forties or fifties to hook up with a non-pro in Cartagenia. Oh yeah, and at least try to hablo pocito Espanol. Compra una translator, lo trabajo bien, especiales para romantica encountras. Yo hablo gringo Espanol. Especially learn your numbers in Spanish.
I identified the apartment building better now, it is next to McDonalds on Cra 2 and about Clle 9 above Davivendos money exchange/bank.
I also noticed that 4 Colombian girls rented the apartment next to mine for 100,000 pesos a night, about $40 and it was a 2 Br. I think I was a sucker to pay $50 a night for a 1 Br apartment, but that was what the cab driver told me was the rent. I assume he received $5 or so for steering me to the apartments. Nonetheless it made a lot of sense to stay at the apartment and avoid the hotel security problem for bringing a girl back to the room.
While I recommend this apartment building, I strongly suggest that you try for a lower price, like 100K pesos a night or less.
Todays non stop left CTG about 8:33am & arrived in MIA 11:14am or so, then left MIA back to CTG around 12:44pm & arrived cerca 3:20pm per Avianca's colombian website.......funny thing the US version shows the "scheduled" flights @ 11:00am CTG-MIA & MIA-CTG 15:15 the rabbit
NPaul,
I stayed in the same apartment next McDonald back in June(low season) got it for 100k/night for 2 bedroom. Had the whole place to myself, a taxi driver show me the place. But during high season it will more. I forgot what they told me the price was for high. Apartment next to LDV were $120k/night.
Just checked this thru their email link to me earlier this week: Is this crazy & confusing or just me?? Dec available dates 28th(tues) & 30th(thurs); Jan dates 1-4, 6, 9-12, 16, 19, 23, 26, 30; Feb dates 2, 6, 9, 16, 20, 23, 25th(fri) What is so special about Friday the 25th of Feb? I thought I saw last week that March 01 (tues) & 02 (wed) were available, but now its doesn't show those?
Good work SandRabbit! Props to you, something must have changed recently.
My last call to Avianca I was told they only fly non-stop on Wednesdays and Sundays. Mahku is probably right, could be the season or something.
Will be checking it out though, gives me a lot more options :-)
Bukek. Great first report. I have to echo your comments about learning Spanish.
This time I had a great fun. I met up with this cool dude from NYC who was on his first voyage and accompanied him a little bit. It was funny seeing him with these chicas who pretty much wrapped him around their finger.. (but in a nice way!).
For me, most of the chicas know me pretty well, since it was like my fourth or fifth trip over there this year. It was nice to have a 'good' rep from LDV even though there are a few putas there that hate me. I got it free one night from this fox who just liked hanging out with me. She said "Sometimes I work sometimes I go for fun" I guess that night was just for fun. In the morning she wouldn't take anything but taxi money and something for food (20,000 pesos). She came over the night before I left and screwed me four times and I did her friend as well. I really enjoyed being with the chicas and would hang out for hours just rapping and talking.
I met these two chicas from Medellin that were relatively new to the area. Mostly because they were pumping me for info where they could work besides LDV. Two really fun hotties, and the blonde knew every freaking Linkin Park lyric on this video CD I had. Couldn't speak a word but knew all the words to 'falling'. A total hottie and we spent the afternoon rapping, slamming rum, etc. The chicas got out of their suits and were hanging around nude. Just a blast and they were totally cool. Send me an email if you're going over and as I found their phone number last night (pretty much were in LDV when I left).
I spent a LOT of time on the beach and finally had it out with the biggest annoying tout on the beach. Tony. I think this guy needs someone to get in his face like I did. Stupid fucker. I had kept avoiding him but he'd always seek me out like a laser-guided asshole. The final straw was when I sat down at one of his competitors and he comes up yelling how I fucked him (for choosing someone else). I got up and told him we were going to have this out now because I was not going to have this a-hole in my face every-time I was at the beach. I personally don't like confrontations and take no pleasure in it but this guy is a bully and nice doesn't work with bullies. As expected when confronted by someone that isn't scared of him he backed down quickly. He also offered me the 'real prices' instead of his usual rip off prices. I told him when I wanted to do business with him I'd talk to him. Otherwise leave me alone. He then wanted to be my 'buddy' (I'm still trying to figure out which was worse).
Will this have any lasting effect? Who knows? I met one of his competitors and this guy knew from the jump. He was very accurate and kind of nice that I didn't have a big azz hassle at the end of the day. His name is Tony but that won't do you any good, because the first Tony got so much gringo business that there are at least three other Tonys I know of. Tony is the Ray's Pizza in the Cartagena beach scene.
Here are some beach prices. If you're paying higher, you are getting ripped.
Beer (aquilar) 1.5 mil a bottle
Water 1.0 mil bottle, little bags are about 300p
Fruit small plate 4 large plate 5
I can't remember more, but you don't have to. If they're overcharging you for one thing, they will overcharge you for another. Asking the price is Gringo for saying "Tell me what you think I'll pay". I usually only confirm the price in advance.
There are plenty of chicas and I met this luscious piece of brown chocolate on the beach. Just gorgeous and I was talking to two likelies when I saw her. I made eye contact and she licked her lips. Then she strategically walked off and waited while I broke it off with these two chicas. Damn. Just perfect bod for 60k (I coulda had it for 40k but I gave her a tip afterwards).
Overall I find the beach really fun for a low-key way of meeting chicas. I never use a tout btw which works out better for me. Don't pay any money to dumb ass touts for chicas you met yourself! Believe it or not I had a guy try that with me my second trip there. LOL.
Just an aside. There are a lot of chicas living locally in Laquito. Really fun to get to know them, ring them up and they are over at your apt. Fun for daytime diversion! :)
About Playboy.
This is one of those places that has some of the hottest chicas and they know it. IMHO the other casas don't hold a candle to this place although I will submit on any given night you might find a cutie in others like Internationale, Hospadeje, Manila house, etc. etc. (sorry I'm butchering the spelling, I'm sure) but every time I'm disapointed by the selection. Only once did that happen at Playboy (out of four total times).
Their take-out fee is outrageous and I've heard that Colombians get it for 80. One dude told me 60k. I have never been able to get that and I've tried hard. I have finally accepted this is what it is going to cost me -- 100k.
The chicas will negotiate although now it seems like they are all starting at 200k for all night. I can still get them down to 150. Never tried for less. Doesn't seem fair when it is the house fee that burns you. I've had three great chicas and one dud. They are really green for the most part and I don't know how they recruit them but I know I've had students just by the way they write and talk. This is a place where there is no shame in going over the time with the manager. Some chicas will tell you they have to be back early in the morn. Bullshit. If there's a rule, it's laxly enforced! If a chica makes too much a squawk about the time she's history anyways. I like to hear a chica purr the magic words "Whenever you want Papi".
It should be understood that all night is two times. I get all that shit out of the way ahead of time in a place like this and after that it's totally cool. Most of the chicas change in a very short period of time as I can attest. The weekends suck mostly b/c the Colombian dude quotient rises rapidly and I'd prefer to be there more on my own. If you are going there to pick up a chick and leave you can neg in advance with the cab for a free ride back home because they are going to get their cut regardless.
Because it's so far I only hit it once or twice. I didn't take out anything from there this trip, but was sorely tempted. There are chicas that are just as good looking as the Playboy chicas in the usual venues at a cheaper price. Good for a change of pace though.
I agree with Poohbah, the girls all try for at least 150K from gringos regardless where you get them from. Only exception is streetwalkers who will go for 80,000 for short time.
I met a tall blond chica named Vanessa from LDV and she was fun to dance with. From there we went to Tu Candela (sp?) with another girl. There Vanessa tried to negotiate a price with me of 200K for the night. I went as high as 120K and then said Goodbye. All the other clubs in the downtown old city had girls who wanted 150K from gringos. It must be a conspiracy!
Do the girls have a board like we do where they compare prices?
No dude, you're talking about a very small area/venue. There are basically about 5 or 6 clubs I know about. Many of the chicas go trolling, some first to Trip, others first to LDV. Most congregate at Giromato if they are coked up, want to dance, or still need dough (or all three!). So all of them talk. The chicks I get offers from cheaper are those that need the money quickly, those that really like you (it does count more here than Thailand IMHO), how much you know etc.
150 for all night is tops I am going to pay but I will not have every chick go for it. A hundred is what I usually pay ST average. I don't go with the skrunkles and at least swing for the fences with the hotties.
We could divide up the weeks in proportion to who kicks in the most money. Might be like a timeshare, you decide how much of the year you want.
If you are interested, please send me a PM. I might want 4 weeks a year, but not Christmas to New Year's. The holiday weeks would have to be at a premium. NPaul.
Quote: Asking the price is Gringo for saying "Tell me what you think I'll pay".
Truer words were never spoken :-)
Hate to hear how the prices have gone up so much in less than a year.
It was 100k for all night last time I was there. Will be there in early Feb.
Poobah, check your Private Messages...
They are so cute and fun, I had to post a photo of them.
A lot of the girls live together, with 10 or 15 in the same house or apartment. They have plenty of time to talk about who pays what and what the asking price is. If people overpay, it doesn't take long for it to become the new market price. And that's all we are really dealing with here is a market price, supply and demand, Econ 101.
I wrote a long discussion of prices over a week ago. It seems to have been lost.
In brief, you can still get an hour of full service for 20K(about US$8.50 now) in Centro or on the beach. I have never paid less than 50K. I don't pay more than 100K. If anyone even asks for more than 100K, I walk. It's not about how cheaply you can get laid, but I won't contribute to gouging, either.
I spend six or seven months per year in Cartagena. It is not difficult with time to get laid by non-pros. However, there is no such thing as free pussy.
I have found reasonable pussy. Some are more careful with your money than you are. You still pay for food, drink, taxis, and entertainment. But that 50K you would otherwise have parted with, goes a very long way with a frugal chica. And I tell them that I will not be faithful.
Thanks for the responses so far about setting up a pussy palace in Cartagena. I have visited the palace in Sosua but not the Mansion in B.A. Argentina.
Cartagena is only 2 hours and 15 minutes from Miami and well protected because of the Colombian Navy base. Summers are hot, but so are the girls who come from all over Colombia. Many students who are raising tuition, many from all over the coast and others from Colombia who are on vacation and could use some spending money for their affection. Please send me an email if you would want to rent for a week ($50) a day or buy a condo with me. I am really not interested in making this a commercial venture, I only would like to have a great hideout to go to several times a year and a reason to go there. Cartagena seems like more of a tourist mecca with the old fort, beach, islands to visit and Colombian women who are so easy to bed. NPaul.
Gentlemen,
Thank you for all this helpfull post here. I have deceided to visit cartagena 3 weeks in febr.
My question is: can somebody help me with email adresses from apt. rentals. I need a one-bedroom apt., nice furniture and safe. I´m from germany, my arrival is late at 10:45 pm. Is it possible getting it late in the evening?
Thank you in advance,
Trendy Andy
See my post #596 in this thread for a web site of Juan Ventura's apartments. His E-mail address is listed on the site.
It is no problem coming in late at night. The apartment buildings have 24-hour security. The taxi's will be waiting for your arrival, and the security guys will know about what time you are due.
Her email is somewhere in this thread (though I still get LOTS of PMs asking for it).
Dear Mongers,
Coming back to my favorite city of Cartagena on the 16th of January , and staying tens days. I paid 446.15 for my roundtrip flight from Miami on Avianca flight 35/34. To get the best rate you have to purchase the flight on Aviancas U.S. website version. The other time I flew for about 400.00. Also, guys, do not play connect a flight in Colombia , you will have to go through immigration twice, customs twice, and basically everything double, it is ridiculous.
The first time I was with my medellin Novia, this time i will be there one day without her for one night, WHERE IS THE HOTTEST CHICKS THAT ARE FLAWLESS? PLEYBOY OR LDV?
I am looking for perfect 10s, also what about the price, I am not interested in overpaying. How much do you guys pay for all night action from Pleyboy. I want only smoking hot colombianas that are flawless.
If anyone wants to hang out on the 16th at night, give me an private message and your cell number, I have a cell number in colombia through Comcell, so shoot me a message.
KOS
Which is better? Ldv or Pleyboy, also what are the prices?
I do not want to get "gringoed" and pay double when some stupid colombian is paying a third for the same girl.
KOS
Thank you tomtom33 and surfer. Will try both.
Playboy "generally" will have hotter chicks "on average", BUT they are much more exp, something like 200-300k for 3 hrs if i remember correctly. Also Playboy is a "casa" so you also have to pay something to the house.
While LDV is a bar and the ALL the girls are freelance, price should be 80-120k for all night, BUT i've heard that in the past couple months it gone up to 200k. Can someone can verfiy this either way?
You'll get gringo price initially anyway, and then you bargain down if it's too far fetch.
There are stunners in both places, probably more in Pleyboy. I do not patronize Pleyboy because it is a rip-off. You are gouged for drinks, chicas and salidas.
You can get a stunner from LDV for 100K pesos for a hour and maybe 140-150 TLN. I always rent for an hour. I am not a tough negotiator. You could do better. Many will ask for more if they think that they can get it.
Are there any cabanas and short-time hotels in Cartagena?
I can get an all-inclusive package for less than the flight alone from Toronto plus I like to have a secure home base for my valuables and a sanctuary away from possessive chicas.
Thanks.
Hi guys,
Having been to Brazil, Cuba and Argentina several times I'm finally ready to take the plunge and explore a bit of Colombia. I understand that Cartagena is pretty safe, so I think I'll stick to there for my first time. From reading this board it seems that there is plenty of "non-pro" action in Cartagena, and the touts are a real pain in the ass. Can anyone give some advice for a first-timer there? I also want to know if the hotels are "girl-friendly," or if I have to rent a private casa in order to bring girls home. All advice is greatly appreciated!
Doc Bill ,
>From reading this board it seems that there is plenty of "non-pro" action in >Cartagena
I disagree, unless maybe you go during the miss Colombia contest. Regular clubs along the strip (Barillos) are dead unless it's Fri or Sat. YMMV depending on your looks/age/how well you normally do with the girls back home. Don't expect an easy lay from a wealthy 18 year olds from Medellin vacationing in Cartagena. In my opinion, BA has the best non pro scene, and it has a lot to do with the fact that there are endless cubs and bars for singles in BA, that there are x10000 more people out and partying 7 days a week.
On the positive note, Cartagena has a great pro scene, great GFE for the most part, very affordable, plentiful, and the girls are just great.
>the touts are a real pain in the ass.
Yes they are. Just ignore them, don't make eye contact.
>I also want to know if the hotels are "girl-friendly," or if I have to rent a >private casa in order to bring girls home.
Get an apartment.
>Can anyone give some advice for a first-timer there?
Just go and have a great time. I felt safer in Cartagena than in many other parts of Latin America. Take a girl or two to an island and have fun (I haven't done it, but met a guy who did and that's exactly what I will do next time I am going).
Apt is the way to go, only because it's cheaper more roomier. You have the same level of security (ie, guard at the front) as a hotel, same location (many apts are located in Bocagrande-ground zero), the ONLY thing apt don't have is room service(maid and such). But of course any apt you rent will have that as optional service like those Brazil and Argentina.
BTW, since you're pretty exp monger(spanish too i'm guessing) in latin america, you may want to consider Bogota, Medillin, & Cali especially if you planning on spending more than a week in COL. CTG is very hot, humid, and has a beach town/resort feel, which can get old. Cali(i hear medillin too-never been there) is great for non-pro, the people are very friendly and it's easy to hook up. Not as easy as cuba, but lot easier than BA. But coming from BA, ANY COL city is not going to seem as comospolitan or exciting. Places like bars, clubs, restaurant in COL cities are not fill w/ people during the week(unless it's holiday week), especially compare to BA. Weekend non problem. Outside of hitting the pro-scene, COL cities are boring during the week, because so place regular for non-pro are closed. BUT of course the pro stuff is open late.
Hey guys, thank you so much for the useful info. So you think an apartment is the way to go, so I would appreciate any info on booking or a good experience someone had with a particular apartment and how to book in advance. Is this your preference because of price only, or are the hotels all simply not girl-friendly? I really would prefer a hotel, but not if I can't bring a girl up to my room.
Also, best way to get acclamated to the pro scene? Beach? Clubs? Best and worst, places to avoid?
And yes, I'm conversational in Spanish and pretty hip to latin culture.
Thanks so much again for your help!
For an apartment, contact Juan Ventura [url]http://www.zepelion.com/apartamentos/index.htm[/url].
Hotel Charlotte in Boca Grande is a good choice if you prefer a hotel. It is good, reasonably priced, and chica-friendly. There are other hotels that are chica-friendly but not all of them. Cartagena primarily services the family tourist trade and does not want to offend. For example, street walkers are regularly arrested because that activity doesn't look good. You can, of course, find some nice stuff on the street. They are just a little more reserved.
You can find non-pro action in Cartagena. There are a million permanent residents and tourists are always present. Some times are better than others for tourism, but CTG is pretty much a 24/7 town.
for one night, then moved to an apartment. it's a good hotel, has that small, friendly hotel setting, paid 125k/night (incl. breakfast). also, it's 10 min walk from ldv and in imo better location than other hotel/apt close to ldv. however make sure you tell them before checking that you want guest no problem and no additional cost. when i first checked in, they told me guest no problem but i had to pay extra 20-30k irc per night. then a fellow gringo staying there overheard me and told them that i was his "friend" and don't charge the extra fee. so obviously this is negotiable.
btw, i like the place, the only reason i bail on the hotel to the apartment was price and space, i got a 2 bd/1bath apart(both rooms open) for 100k/night, it's the big rose color sykraper next/near mcdonald. one thing about many apts is that they don't have hot water, not problem w/ the heat in ctg. check out manila house casa, imo it's less of a plastic feel than playboy. girls were very frienly and cost less too! my friends pulled a girl for 200k for 24 hrs + 60k to the house. you'll have search the thread for direction or simply tell the taxi driver. the girls mostly range from 7's to a few 8's, while playboy was a few 7s but mostly 8's.
I just got my ticket on Aviance, round trip from Miami for US $439. I tried to use their website but it prohibited me from purchasing, something about the tariff, so I got that rate on the phone. Good, no?
Girls are now collectively trying to gouge people in LDV. Asking price is $200K and this is more than double what anyone should pay and would have payed a short time ago.
Don't contribute to girls thinking they can do this. If they ask for $200K tell them to get lost and wait for them to come down to $80 to $100.
If the norm becomes $200K, CTG will never be the same as we know it.
Also, I'm withdrawing my recommendation of Alex as a guide. I'd remove the post, but don't know how to do so.
Gentlemen,
I'm in Cartagena now, will staying about 3 weeks. Have rented from Juan, one-bedroom 40 USD a day. The Apartement is o.k. but nothing more. Is is located in the Edificio Caribe Real in El Laguito close to Hilton and 250 m to LDV. Was 1 time in LDV, hooked up with ca. 20 years old morena, 150 K for 1 hour, performance 7/8. About 40 - 50 girls inside, high quality. In the evening I will meet another young girl, I meet her in a Italian restaurant here in Laguito. First day I was approached by a dark girl who was smoking ad drinking like an old seeman - nothing worth to drop a line here. Tu Candela was very slow on wendesday but I will try again tonight. Also I will try Mr. Babilla and Giro Matto.
Alot of girls here in the city, very few tourists ecxpect italians. I guess here is going more the pro scene than the non pro scene.
Update will be follow shortly.
I decided to give Alex a call based on your recommendation when I was in CTG in January.
Just as background, I've been to MDE twice and CTG twice in the past 5 months and I understand Spanish better than I speak it. But I've travelled/hobbied all over the world and have always gotten by with a smile, sense of adventure, a few bucks and an electronic translator.
Alex can be very useful, but you have to set ground rules and remind him that you are the boss and he is there to help you. And if you determine that the help you need is him introducing you to a girl and then shutting the fuck up, then that's what he has to do.
It's unfortunate that Alex went to the 50-Cent School of English and Social Graces, but it is what it is.
Here's how to best use Alex:
1. Go to the Castellana Centro Commercial. Walk around and whenever you see a girl that strikes your fancy, have him introduce you and then tell him you'll give him a call on his cell when you need him next - maybe in 10 minutes, maybe in an hour. Remind him that you are paying him 50k for the day and you want him to be available, but not stuck to you like a Siamese twin. After the introduction, I usually don't need him for much else.
2. Go with him to Lagartija Disco on a Sunday night (near the Castellana Centro Commercial). Sunday night is pick up night. The place was getting going at 10pm and by midnight you couldn't make it to the bano it was so crowded. But when I would spot a girl that I wanted to talk to, Alex would jump from the table, and get her info/bring her back to the table. I got 6 phone numbers on a Sunday night and hooked up with three of the girls over the next week. All non-pros and all a great time.
I really wouldn't use him any other way. I certainly don't need him at the beach or at Tu Candela, etc. Some guys might not like going to places by themselves, but that doesn't bother me and I'm rarely alone for long. But for me, I've had great success with the introduction routine and I wouldn't hesitate to use Alex for that. And tell him to shut the fuck up when he starts blabbing about nothing - and trust me, he will again and again. It's hard to hurt his feelings. Besides - it's your vacation.
i have been along time reader and never a poster but I have the funds now to go down there for at least 2 or 3 weeks, but need some opinions on were to go, were to stay and who to get to be my guide or gofor for a few days or at first.
Any help guys let me know please.
I did the Island of Margreta and now have to do Columbia.
Oh yea, and before you tell to look back at post's I have and don't know what to think?
Thanks guys
Can you recomend me what elecronic translator you use? Where can I find them?
Thank in advance.
The beach is very, very slow. No Girls, you con not make contact.
LDV is crowdly early in the night, IMHO 11.30 pm. Monday 30 girls there, the time goes by and more and more men fills the disco. asking price is mostly 200 K, they don't want all-nighters and when they agree, they screw with you and try to leave after the first session. And, I guess there not 100%, but 90% are avaible.
Was in Giro Matto on saturday, music is electronic, a lot of drugs and nearly the same girls as in LDV. They are waiting outside for a man who bring they in because there is a entrance fee, 10 K. It is running at 2.00, crowdly at 3.00 und ends up at 6.00 am. Drinks are more expansive than in LDV.
Mr. Babillas was closed for public - fiesta privada.
Street Vendors: Summary: You can not aviod them. Take a seat not closed to the street in a restaurant. Bocagrande beach is hell on earth. I have never seen in my live that kind of shit. O.K. the want feed themselfs, but it is my vacation.
You dont have to bring tons of clothes or going and by towels here. There is a good "lavanderia" closed to the apartment building - fast and cheap.
Cartagena is a very nice und safe city, the Gold-Museum and the Marine/military museum are worth a visit. Don't eat at Plaza Santo Domingo, you will be end up in Jail because there are millions of vendors, you can't be one minute alone with yourself or the girl and your fist will starting really soon to hit faces.
Now a Cartagena believer
Hi all. I’ve been mongering mostly in Asia but I decided to give Latin America, namely Cartagena, a try. Now I’ve got a problem because this place totally rocks and now I’ve got to choose between Southeast Asia and Colombia for my 8 week trip this summer. I know I can’t go wrong either way but it’s gonna kill me that I can’t do both. In short, finding almost any kind of girl is child’s play in Cartagena. Security isn’t a problem and there are plenty of things to do. Of course there are some annoyances. But even if something pisses you off you’ll have a babe on hand to make you forget about it soon enough. Special thanks goes to WSG member tomtom33, probably the best friend you can have if you go to Colombia. Tomtom, I wish we could have hung out more but the pussy kept me tied down and wouldn’t let me up.
Flight: Round trip from Miami for $412, bought from America Travel in Miami. I had a few hassles due to my having a foreign-based credit card, which I talk about in a December post. But in the end the ticket got there and Avianca was spot on time both ways. Inflight service and food was ok. Stewardesses were extremely ok.
Arrival: If someone is coming to meet you at the airport, have them show up at least 45 minutes after the scheduled arrival of your flight. It took me an hour after arrival before I finally got out. And greeters have to wait outside. Immigration line was slow. They fussed for several minutes over every passport. Then you have your bags are all x-rayed and possibly hand-searched. There was one line for this for the whole plane. Not sure what they’re looking for. I thought it was a little funny if Colombia was looking for drugs smuggled INTO the country. Taxi from the airport to Almirante Hotel was about 12,000 pesos. Tomtom33 was at the airport waiting for another friend so I got to split the cost. Departure, by the way, is also time-consuming. It’s a good idea to get to the airport at least 2 and a half hours ahead of the flight.
Hotel: I stayed at Almirante Hotel, $85 a night plus taxes and charges of about $10, booked online directly with the hotel. Breakfast was included (a good buffet). It has a pretty good gym and a smallish pool. The pool doesn’t get much sunshine if you’re a sun worshipper. There is a ‘solarium’ on an upper floor if you need this. Room is your standard 4-star, there’s a key-opened in-room safe. Guest-friendly? A qualified yes. Girls had to leave their ID card at the front and they had to be out by 5am, or there would have been an extra charge. This was ok for me because I was mostly practicing 3F mongering. The last couple of nights I had a girl that I might have wanted to keep overnight. The hotel rule probably helped me keep things uncomplicated. I probably could have avoided all this by booking double occupancy, but this would have cost more also. The upside of this is that the hotel is very secure. Nothing much will get in that doesn’t belong there. But this also means there won’t be any many non-guests coming or going, which takes some of the life from the place.
Next time I’ll probably do like everyone else and get an apartment. I usually prefer hotels because of all the services and facilities and also the general coming and going energy they have. But next time I visit I’ll probably want unhassled all-nighters so I’ll probably look elsewhere. I also understand that some apartments have gyms, pools, satellite TV, cleaning service, etc.
Money: Exchange rates for ATM withdrawals was about 2300 pesos to the US dollar. It wsa usually 2150 for cash dollars at official moneychangers. There you have it.
Colombia wasn’t cheap compared to Thailand and the Philippines, but still not too bad. It costs somewhat more to take a girl out to wine and dine her. A hotel of the standard of the Almirante can be had for half or less in the Philippines. Diving costs were about 30% higher. Short time with pros was about 100K or 120K pesos, which is also a bit higher than what I pay in southeast Asia. But it’s not too high to keep me away from coming here again.
Language: I won’t go as far to say that you have to speak Spanish. But let me put it this way. None of the girls I met spoke more English than Hello or I love you. If you can get by with that then fine. But if you want more communication then any Spanish you can bring with you will serve you well. This was my first experience in a Spanish immersion situation. I’ve only had 4 years of classroom Spanish a long time ago. But after a slow start I was improving by big leaps every day. Just like my experience in Japan, the best language teacher was in bed next to me.
Beaches: Bocagrande has good sand, waves and plenty of pussy per square meter. The only problem is the touts. They’re fine if you keep moving. But if you want some relaxing time on the beach with your girl then you’d better find another beach out of the tourist area. My girl suggested as much and I should have listened. You will never be left alone for more than a minute. And if you’re foolish enough to buy something you’ll be surrounded by 10 other people trying to sell you something else. I’ve been to some other places with a high hassle factor, like Kuta in Bali and Cairo. Bocagrande gave these a run for their money. So I would recommend this beach only for walking and picking up girls, which is very possible.
Diving: Not nearly the best in the world but still pretty good. I spent a couple of days diving around Isla Baru, which is about a half hour by boat from town. Coral was in decent shape. There were schools of jackfish, barracuda, batfish and all kinds colorful reef fish. Seas, can sometimes be choppy, like diving off the Florida Keys. It cost 150K for the day of diving, not including equipment because I had my own. Drinks and sandwiches are included. On the beach between dives there are guys selling fresh lobster and fish. They have a grill to cook it on. I wouldn’t come to Cartegena only for the diving. But if you’re already there it’s worth going out. The boat ride on the way passes by old Spanish forts and island villages. I used La Tortuga Dive Shop. The divemaster there is from San Francisco. One day he took us on an extra short dive on a wrecked tugboat.
Girls: Finally he gets to the pussy you say. Well, it’s basically everywhere. If you want it quick and easy, just go to La Dolce Vita (LDV) in Laguito. I could have easily spent every night of my week there taking 2 or 3 absolutely gorgeous girls a night and not repeated with the same girl. I’m very picky about women but I couldn’t believe how much I was spoiled for choice at this place. It’s important to hold the line on prices, as was mentioned a few posts ago here. One of the girls was bargaining hard for the 200K short time fee. But eventually she was happy with 120. She was obviously happy with this amount so I see no need to pay more than this, even if some people are dumb enough to pay it.
I also took home girls from the beach, the supermarket one street over from the Almirante, a park in the old town and the Coffee Bean Shop in front of the Almirante. I was getting a bit infamous at the coffee shop because I also used it to meet up with girls for second and third meetings. I also went to A Foreign Affair, a marriage agency which I saw was a few minutes walk from the hotel. I looked through their catalogues and decided to meet one girl, just for curiosity’s sake. It cost $25 for the intro but she turned out to be a winner. She’s a mulatta with a petite, tight body. She works as a secretary. She stayed with me for a couple of days going to the beach, out to nice restaurants, dancing salsa at night and then back to my room for some bucking and grinding. She never asked for any money. But of course the wining and dining probably added up to just the same as straight pay for play, as we all know it does.
So in conclusion I would put Cartagena in the world class category for mongering and for mongering combined with activities like diving and sightseeing. I never had any problems with security, in fact there’s probably too much of it. And as far as the women go, you can find almost any size, shape and color in great numbers.
The bars were closed on Ash Wednesday and Thursday because alcohol was prohibited. As a result LDV was closed.
I had good luck on the street and at a casa. Please enjoy some of the photos I took from Cartagena and Cali in th photo section.
By the way, if you fly Avionca to Colombia this month you can ask for the free two national flights with every international booking. That way you can travel to Cartagena and then to and fro another city in Colombia for free before your return flight home.
Cheers!
Klitchkov: Translators are all over the internet including amazon.com. The company that makes the most variety is Franklin. You can get just one language ones (english-spanish, etc.) or multi-language ones. The former have more words and the latter fewer words but more languages. I bought a Franklin DBE 1450 for about $46 from Amazon earlier this year. Its great but does only Spanish. You can get models with less bells and whistles for less than $30 easily. Hope that helps.
I'll be in town March 16-22, unfortunately wife is tagging along,(trade off for a solo trip to CR) but, i'll be able to get out at night from 7pm till 12am, if anyone's gonna be in town then too, i'd sure appreciate a wingman, to hit the casa's & bars for a few hours. i'll be staying at one of Juan Ventura's apts. Marinare building. Send a PM if interested. This my 3rd trip to COL, but the first to CTG. the rabbit
[QUOTE=Klitchkov]Can you recomend me what elecronic translator you use? Where can I find them?
Thank in advance.[/QUOTE]I use the Franklin Merriam-Webster “Speaking” Spanish-English Dictionary, Model BES-1850.
It’ll run you $100 – I bought mine at Best Buy and here’s the link for it:
[url]http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jspid=1067388398435&skuId=6171705&type=product[/url]
There are cheaper ones, but this model has two things that are important to me:
1. It has a back-light. I find this indispensable as I use it often in bars and restaurants that aren’t well-lit.
2. It has a “speaking” feature so you hear the pronunciation of the word. Again, to me this is indispensable. There’s no point in saying the word in Spanish if it’s pronounced wrong.
Hope this helps.
As previously posted it will be my first time in Colombia, and I appreciate all your reports, esp. TomTom for your recommendation of Juan Ventura. I have reserved an apartment through him so I hope it works out well. Ill be there solo so if anyone else is going to be there at that time and want to hook up please let me know. Thanks!
After three trips to Cartagena, I am tired of the city, the people who always try to sell you something, have defeated me. It really is a cool city and have found the hottest chicks are always in the Old City Fort at night. But all the hot working girls are from other parts of the country of Colombia. The locals are disgusting, just like Panama, they are black. But I have noticed some of the hottest chicks in the city are at the old fort at night. Cartagena was great the first two times, but the city gets old really quick. Some American dude was on television in Colombia trying to sell Cartagena as the next Miami, I almost laughed.
KOS
I cannot believe what I just read; "...they are black", is such an [i]offensively racist comment[/i]! Of course you are entitled to your own view of peoples, however, there is absolutely no need to flaunt them here. The Blacks of Cartagena, Panama nor the U.S. have a monopoly on "disgust"!
Thank goodness there are some enlightened brethren that have alternative views than yours.
If you read the previous report correctly, it says the women are black in Cartagena like in Panama. This is descriptive, not racist. Women in Africa are black too. This is a descriptive term and not racist.
I am enlightened, but don't call me your brethren.
Women are like tea. If its not your flavor, God made alot of others. Don't throw around political or "racist" terms in this country. Just enjoy the type you like.
American white whales are disgusting to me. You would not shout racist about that.
We are not hear to spread politics, we are here to spread the girls legs and report on it.
Mahku,
Where it a Foreign Affair located? Is it on a stand alone office? Is it located in one of the hotels? If you are going out of the Almirante - do you go make a left or right? Is there any landmarks that you remember, so I can find the place easily. Please advise.
Thank you in advance.
Fullpop
I am not racist, I just do not prefer to be with black girls as most are disgusting in looks. The only black girls that I have met that are hot and attractive, are con artists, rip off artists etc. I was in paris, france once and had this hot black girl rip me off. In conclusion , I will never pick up a black girl again, you are only asking for trouble. But if you want me to be racist, then I will show you racist, all blacks are ni--e-s.
Are you happy macgoo, I think you are the average black person in the United States, looking for a angle to accuse the white people of racism. Why dont black people get a job instead of trying to sue someone for racism. i think because they do not want to work.
KOS-ILS
Sorry NPaul, but Macgoo is right. I think you overlooked the fact that the words "disgusting" and "black" were used together in the same sentence, and any reasonable person reading that (like myself) would find that terribly racist and "disgusting!" If you like something report on it, if you don't like a certain type don't, or at least don't badmouth it. That's what makes this forum great, that we can all be gentlemen and decent tolerant people. Ok, enough of this, that's all I'm going to say and let's get back to some good reporting.
[QUOTE=Macgoo]I cannot believe what I just read; "...they are black", is such an [i]offensively racist comment[/i]! Of course you are entitled to your own view of peoples, however, there is absolutely no need to flaunt them here. The Blacks of Cartagena, Panama nor the U.S. have a monopoly on "disgust"!
Thank goodness there are some enlightened brethren that have alternative views than yours.[/QUOTE]
My thoughts on Cartagena:
In the beginning of Feb I made my first trip to Cartagena and Colombia in general. I have grown fond of Colombian women after my many trips to Panama and Spain so I wanted to see first hand what the mother land had to offer. I decided to come to Cartagena over Medelin and Cali for tourist reasons (increased safety, beaches, old city, etc.......). I definately had a lot of fun during my vacation, but I definately feel that I must warn
people. If you're coming here expecting to see the fair-skinned Colombian woman typically seen in magazines or beauty pageants, this isn't the best spot, and I would recommend going to Medelin, Cali, or even Bogota. Most (70%) of the women here are either black or mulatta. With that said, there are definately cute non-pros around (old city or bocagrande shopping
areas) but don't expect to see supermodels roaming the streets.
Non-Mongering Section
Apartments:
I rented an apartment from Juan Ventura for $50/day. It was very nice but one complaint that I have is that the phone didn't have long distance service meaning I couldn't call girl's cellphones. The view was perfect though and all the chicas liked it. Plus, I had hot water and AC!!!!
Bocagrande Beach:
The reputation of the touts is well deserved. If you decide to spend time at this beach and rent one of those chairs under shade, expect to get flooded with locals trying to sell everything imaginable. I mean you literally have people bugging you every minute non-stop. The most aggressive ones are the massagistas (sp?). Even after telling them "no" their
hands are on you with the quickness. The beach itself is not really special either. It is just ok. The water is very warm, which I like but others may not.
Islas del Rosario:
I took a day tour to these islands during my trip. When making arranging for this tour, make sure to choose a smaller boat because you'll get to the islands much faster. My tour included about an hour of snorkeling which was ok but not great, a visit to the aquarium which is quite good since they have dolphins, sharks, rays, and other huge fish, and lunch on a very beautiful island. I would definately recommend if you want to kill some time
during one of your days.
Old City:
If one has never been to an spanish old town, I would say this is a must see. I visited the gold (not that impressive) and inquisition (somewhat interesting) musuems. Also there are plenty of good restaurants in this area. The huge walls that protect the city are quite impressive.
Discos:
I only visited Mr. Babilla. I went on a Saturday night, and I saw mostly young couples not a lot of singles interacting. It may be possible to score with non-pros here but I didn't see much of it happening.
Mongering Section
La Dulce Vita:
Well, this is the best spot for mongering. Plenty of talent but mostly from other cities (Medelin, Cali, etc.................). I went here four nights. One thing is the DJ plays the same shit every night. Minor complaint. I averaged 150k pesos and that was for 2 TLN and a 2 hr. session. It seems prices have gone up here recently, because I remember hearing TLN could be had for 100-120k pesos 1 yr. ago. Most girls started at 200k for TLN. I had one very memorable experience with a Paisa who really gave a GFE (she came back later the next day to cuddle in my bed). My other experiences were pretty good as well. Funny enough, one of the girls had actually worked at Golden Times in Panama City 2 yrs. ago when I went there.
Pleyboy:
I went here twice. The first night (late Sat) it was quite crowded and most of the girls were dancing. There were even stage shows which were very good. I like strip clubs so I felt right at home. As for prices, they were quite high compared to LDV and other casas. I don't remember exactly what they were but I think it was like 250-300k for TLN. I never bought but there was definate talent there. Again, all of the talent were from other cities.
Casa de Marino:
I went here twice and got TLN twice for 200k pesos (1/2 for the house or 1/2 for the girl). There are only like a dozen girls here of varying quality. There was one girl here who looked very brazilian with wavy hair and a thick bunda. I picked her my second night. Sex with her was ok, somewhat aggressive, but I argued with her because she wanted to sleep
afterwards and I wanted to fool around some more. I had a second round with her the next morning but by that time I was annoyed with her. The girl I picked my first night was absolutely my best experience in Cartagena. Extremely affectionate. She wanted to make out everywhere (in the club, in the taxi, in the elevator). Sex was quite good and she was very determined to please.
I visited Manilla house but didn't care for the talent so I won't discuss in depth.
Well, those are my thoughts. I will probably travel back to Colombia, but next time, it will be either Medelin or Cali. I still need to satisfy my superhot Colombiana fetish because Cartagena didn't quite do it.
Termas Time
Replied to Full Popper by PM but here it is to any others interested:
It's really close to the Almirante, about 3 minutes walk.
From the door of the Almirante turn right and when you get to the street turn right again. Go past the Coffee Bean Shop and the casino. Then cross the street. The office is on the second floor of a small shopping arcade.
The ground floor of the arcade has some travel agents and clothes shops. I don't remember very well about other shops on the second floor, probably more travel agents and clothes shops. I don't recall anything looking like a theater. Behind the arcade there's a higher rise building.
The office itself is sort of non-descript. It has a lot of window space on the main street but no large identifying sign. There may be some small stickers or signs. It's above and to the right of the entrance to the arcade. On the way up there's a mid-range hotel on the 2nd floor. The hotel is NOT visible from the street. The office is actually another half floor up from where the hotel is. There are usually two girls working there.
Here's a number to call that might work: 665-5642. Ask for Kayla.
Psst, I am not at all surprised, nor angered, by your latest post!!
Reluctantly, I will restrain my response out of respect for those that may not concur with your assessment.
If you could comprehend better, it would be apparent that your original [i][b]comments[/b][/i] were termed as offensive. That was not a personal attack. Having said that, your most recent attack on Blacks world-wide was really ludicrous -- totally devoid of logical reasoning. It is no wonder that Jackson has censored you on several occasions.
Unfortunately, many like you stumble into positions of authority, and abuse it by refusing to hire those very Blacks that you loath! Instead of chasing Latin pussy, your money could be better spent on professional help.
BTW, did you graduate from high school, or have a G.E.D. -- you are too funny!!!!
I will be returning to Medellin where the girls are white, and you will find that the majority of the white girls in Cartagena are from all over the country. The girls in all of the countries in latin america tend to be black on the coast, and more white in the center of the country. I am sorry that I do not like the look of the local girls in Caratgena/and or Panama when they are darker, they are just not attractive. There are some white girls in the U.S that are just whales, sea whales that is, and I do not like them either. Macgoo ,I think you need to relax a little when it comes to your race, you are bringing the race card to the wrong person. Every time that I have been with a black girl, they always try to rip me off and or scam you. I have never had any problems with white girls. So maybe I am biased, but I have clear reason to be biased. I think even Jackson would agree with me to stay away from black girls like the black plague, I believe many black girls try to rip off clients. I have heard about this many times in Miami Beach, black girls love to look for rip offs.
Macgoo Psssssst, maybe you should look in the mirror, you are the typical black person that needs help because he is so defensive of his race. I initially stated I did not like the looks of black girls, because frankly, they look like MONKEYS in panama/cartagena. Yes, the black girls in Cartagena/Panama LOOK EXACTLY LIKE MONKEYS FROM THE JUNGLE. So when you play the race card, make sure you have a valid reason.
I will be Medellin in the next week where the girls are very white , if you want to meet me there Macgoo, we can have lunch and we can have some Chitlins for lunch with Watermelon. Let me know.
KOS
Hi Macgoo...
I am seeing you addressing a member called KOS. I am just surprised cause I didnt find any kosses in the thread. Anyone called KOS?
I forgot to tell you that KOS in arabic means pussy by the way just for your information
Cheers.
P.S: The purpose of this post is not in any way to offend any member. Cheer up guys!
Brethren, [i]and others[/i], do pardon the mindless diatribe.
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BTW,
A well written report, thanks for taking the time in reporting back. It is the type of substantive information fellow mongers can use prior to their foray.
If a person is black then they are black, if a person is white well then they are white, who gives a fuck !!!
Aussie Greg.
You are probably not trying to offend anyone purposely, but your post was offensive, and I am not even black.
You could do a great service to myself and the other members if you just discuss where and how to get the white chicks, whom you clearly prefer.
Writing about why you hate black women frankly adds no value to the thread and only serves to diminish your credibility as a contributor to the forum.
Good luck in Colombia and try not to get scammed (by blacks or whites).
Yos.
I will be in Cartagena next week.
I will be compelled to stay in a totally chica unfriendly hotel. From what I read most of the quality scene revolves around taking out to hotel or apartments. Any ideas as to where to take LDV "conquest" where you hotel is not an option. Please note that I am not too keen on sex on the beach or in a dark "callejón"
Your assistance will be much appreciated
Well put Aussie Greg ... hope you're having fun in Colombia!
Personally ... I like a darker chica one day and a lighter skin chica the next ... who cares ... it's like deciding between chocolate or vanilla ice cream.
They're both good ... depends on the mood.
BTW ... for King of (white only) Sluts ... I've been ripped off and had lousy performances by the lighter skin chicas too.
Pretty sure the darker chicas don't have a monopoly on ripping dudes off ... hey, just maybe it's your attitude towards them that might cause bad service ... just a thought.
I'm hoping to spend a few days in Cartagena soon ... looking for a dark-skin beauty !!
Tonite ... it's back to Venezuela!
Suerte!
The chicas should know of "love" hotels in the area. I have never used one. The entire area of Laguito and Boca Grande is very safe.
This is low season. Take a walk and ask at some smaller hotels. You could get a deal and wind up with two places.
Cartagena mongers
I agree with most of you, race should not be a issue, but when when the race card is pulled against me, I attack it because I am tired of the black Americans claiming racial discrimination when really they just do not want to get off there black ass and work.
I am not a fan of cartagena, the people are to aggressive and they do not let you relax, it can be annoying, the Almirante is my favorite hotel, because at at least the people cannot sell you something at the pool area.
Kos
Cartagena is not for everyone. However, the things that you say that bother you can largely be avoided in Cartagena if you leave the Boca Grande/Laguito/Centro area. Castillo Grande, for example, abuts Boca Grande. Yet it is a completely different world. There are virtually no touts. The beaches are uncrowded and clean.
I prefer white chicas and happily live in Laguito. I hasten to add, however, that I have had several hot black chicas who were delightful in every way. In general, grillas (chicas who share their charms to finance the better things in life) will tend to try to get as much from you as they can. It doesn't matter what color they are. You just need to control the situation.
Enjoy MDE. It is my second favorite city. Realize that many of MDE's best rotate in and out of CTG.
My girl also told me about toutless beaches up to the north of town. Unfortunately I was lazy (just wanted to go to the beach outside of the hotel) and decided to bring her to Bocagrande. The touts there were the equal of any annoying touts I've seen in 40 countries worth of travel. So if you want a quiet day on the beach you'll have to get away from tourist central.
One night I was at Coffee Bean Shop next to Almirante waiting for my girl to show up. In walked a camera crew wanting to interview foreign tourists about Cartagena. I mostly had good things to say. But when they asked me for one thing that I didn't like about CTG I said I would tell them 3 things: 1. The touts 2. The touts 3. The touts. Now, expecting the tout situation to change is probably like expecting world peace and the cure for cancer to break out on the same day. But I think the best thing we can do is tell anyone who will listen about this problem, especially if they're someone in authority connected with tourism. I know 'how things work in Colombia' but hopefully a little economic self-interest will encourage some change. It's really in the interest of most people involved.
And I don't for one minute buy this argument that 'they're poor and they have to make a living.' I've been to plenty of poor places that didn't have this level of hassle.
I am tired of the black Americans claiming racial discrimination when really they just do not want to get off there black ass and work.
Please add Mexicans to this list. Over 70% of welfare receipiants are black or mexican. And they always wave the race card, "We're being discriminated against". How the fuck can you be discriminated against when your lazy fuckin ass won't work anyway? I work construction and see on a daily basis companies that have to hire an extra person just to make sure they keep working after the superintendent leaves the job site. Otherwise, they are sitting under the nearest tree. Lazy Bastards.
Hello ... this is the world SEX guide ... not a RACIST chat line!
King of Sluts & Chip: Go spew your vile bigotry elsewhere, perhaps johnbirch.com or kkk.com. I think Jackson should ban you both but it is his board.
The below message was from Jackson, on the Panama - General Information Board. Perhaps we should ask Jackson to send this useless "Tout" to banishment?
KOS:
Before you bash somebody on this board who has consistently provided useful and informative postings. Perhaps you should STFU, and post something that is pertinent to this board. You are clueless, and useless. And most definitely expendable.
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Greetings everyone,
Effective immediately, King of Sluts has been relegated to posting in his own section titled "KOS in Panama". He is no longer permitted to post in any other section.
Those of you who wish to join him in his discussions may do so in this new section.
Hopefully, this will bring some peace to the Panama section, and possibly encourage some new reports from some otherwise reluctant potential contributors.
Thanks,
Jackson
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[QUOTE=July Gan]I will be in Cartagena next week.
I will be compelled to stay in a totally chica unfriendly hotel. From what I read most of the quality scene revolves around taking out to hotel or apartments. Any ideas as to where to take LDV "conquest" where you hotel is not an option. Please note that I am not too keen on sex on the beach or in a dark "callejón"
Your assistance will be much appreciated[/QUOTE]
First of all, a heartfelt thanks to Jackson for quarantining that lowlife racist pig KOS! Now that I got that off my chest, my first few days here in CTG have been great. I want to publicly thank Tom for all his help and advice. As he recommended, I´m staying at one of Juan Ventura´s apartments, right off the beach in Laguito, and I´m very happy with it. The weather and beaches are beautiful. I avoid the touts, which as you read here, are intolerable, just by going to more out of the way beaches, so it´s no problem. The food, everywhere I´ve eaten so far, has been stellar.
Security coming in wasn´t too bad, about a 45 minute hold up at the airport with a cursory hand search of all bags. Juan´s driver Alex, picked me up, and I´d recommend him for any travel needs around here. You could find cheaper, but he´s honest, friendly and reliable. He´s also big, which helps you feel a bit more safe. Having said that, safety does not appear to be an issue here. I feel safer here than many places at home.
Now on to the good stuff: The girs are on the streets, the beaches, and La Dolce Vida (sp?). I know there are other places, but these are most convenient and good enough for me. My first night I picked up a fine looking young mulatta at LDV named Catalina. I was off to a bad first impression, however, as she had all these frigging rules (no touching here, not there, I don´t do that, no, not that position, etc., etc.) I swear she must be an American here in disguise! Redemption came the next day, however, when I met this crazy redhead Luna at a cafe down the street, and we went up to my apartment for a ¨matinee.¨ It was fine, but I had no desire to see her again.
I went to the old city at night, but being it was Monday it was pretty dead, although a trip worth taking. I´m going to go back and check out the salsa clubs later in the week. I ended up back at LDV, where there were at least 30 to 40 girls to choose from, most 7´s to 9´s, with a few 6´s and 10´s (like dice, no?). I, being a fairly good salsa dancer, enjoyed dancing with a few, and then I approached this shy white girl, about 20 or so, named Angelica. We agreed on $100,000 for an hour (about $42 US) and she came over to my apartment (which, by the way, is two blocks away from the club) and just rocked my world for about three hours. I ended up giving her $120K and she´s coming over again tonight. She let me take a few ¨R¨rated pics, so I´ll post them when I get back.
Well that´s it for now, more to come. I´m here for a week and I think that´s a good enough time to be here. Cheers.
Doc,
Great report, nice to have someone give information that is realavant to why we are here.
I've been to CTG several times and have never had a bad experience. LDV winners on the streets in Boca Grande are great fun.
I stay with a friend who lives there but it's a 10-15 min. taxi ride from LDV and gets old after awhile. Your doing the right thing is staying in an apt. close to the action.
I'm accually considering buying an apt. in the old section. I live the ambiance and architecture.
Look forward to your pics.
Well it´s day four of seven here and I´m beginning to wish I would be here longer. It takes a few days for me to get in the groove in any new place. No matter, though, I´ll be back. The Colombians I´ve spoken with recommend Medellin the most, and Cali least due to safety issues. I believe I´ll take their advice.
Cartagena is definitely a small town, in every way. People on the streets, restaurants and clubs already know me. So do the girls at LDV, which is not really a good thing, at least not in every way. The one´s you´ve been with seem to have a sense of propriety over you, and for me that gets a bit awkward when I want to do more of a sampler type shopping. I was there last night and about to leave with Bibiana, a Cali girl, when I looked up and Angelica (who I was with the two nights before) was standing there feigning (?) anger. She was also wearing this virginal white minidress with white stiletto heels, so she really got to me with that so I left with her. After she left, around 2am, I took another blue vitamin and went back and got the Cali girl. You only live once, right?
I don´t know how true this is, but the Cali girl told me that Colombianas are so available because there is such a shortage of Colombian men. She claims that about 8 of 10 births here are women. Good for me. I guess I´ll have to come back and do some more research. ¨Normal¨girls, I must say, are very easy to meet here. I´m only here for a week and I already had two dates with non pros. And I´m no Adonnis. More later.
One woman I was with last year has 4 daughters and one son. 3 daughters I've met aged 15-22. All pretty.
Basically, COL men lack responsibilty and obligation towards their wives and children. I have heard that from many in S. America on dating websites.
Doc, it was honorable you gave an extra 20. She will be better second round.
Enjoy.
Thanks, White Light. You know, this forum has really been an incredible resource to me and Ive met a lot of great (and not so great) people here, so I just want to do my part to keep it as good as possible and for the purpose for which it is intended. And yes, it is a definite plus to be within a five minute walk of everything I could possibly want or need here. NYC expat, got your PM and will respond later, but you were right about the extra 20 going a long way. It turned out to be a very wise investment!
I went to Tu Candela and Quebra Canto last night. The former was full of asshole tourists and bad music, the latter (a salsa club) was empty. I mean no one. Nadie! They said to come back tonight (Friday) and there would be more people and plenty of girls to dance with, so that is my plan for tonite. Anyway, so last night I ended up back at LDV and Angelica looked at me as if she had been waiting all night long for me. This was about one am. She had on this blue little prom queen dress, though, so she was getting to me again despite my desire for some variety. She has a close friend there, Bibiana, and both of them were dirty dancing me for about an hour, so I just asked Angelica if her friend could come join us. Why not, she says! Now I have only done this twice or so before, but this two hour threesome was definitely in the top three of my lifetime sexual experiences. I am actually so sated that I think I will just spend today at the beach by myself!
To me this place seems like a miniature version of Copacabana. Im wondering what other guys think who have been to both places, and how you would compare the girls in Colombia and Brazil. In my very limited experience it seems that the Colombians dont quite match the enthusiasm of the Brazilians, but that is only a preliminary opinion at this point.
IMHO, Brasileras are more sexually wild, WAY more into festinhas or duplas (orgies or 3 ways), WAY more open to completo (anal), but in Rio in particular they are less GFE. Colombia is a conservative, Catholic, country, unlike Brasil.
These folks telling you that Medellin is so safe are SURELY refering to El Poblado (the Laguito of Medellin though with less than 10% of the foreigners).
It DOES seem very safe IF you stay within the confines of Poblado. But go downtown, or to the hillsides, or even the area near San Diego & Face Dos at night and you'll see how Medellin racked up the World's second highest murder rate (after Cali). National geographic has a fascinating article this month all about Medellin. Some of the fiercest paras (paramilitaries AKA rightwing death squads AKA the AUC) are on the outskirts of Medellin. The governor of Antioquia (the state where Medellin is located) was kidnapped from the city then killed about 50 miles away when the army tried to rescue him and the FARC heard the helicopters coming and killed him).
Cartagena is a special security district that is policed like NOWHERE else in Colombia. Do NOT mistake the relative safety of Cartagena asa indicative of the rest of the country. Only Cartagena and San Andrers are demed sufficiently safe by the US government to be exempted from the travel advisory warning against travel ANYWHERE else in Colombia.
Was in Cartagena on Tues thru Thursday. Saw a young innocent girl from Cali on the beach on the way to the apartment at Cartagena Escape Plaza and told the taxi driver to pull over and I got her to jump in. She said she was legal age and we drove to the apartment. Within 2 minutes of getting inside the apartment I had my dick inside her mouth. She was quite inexperienced but I did her doggie style and missionary before blowing my load on her ripe young ass. I offered her some money to go away, about 35,000 pesos. Promised her I would look for her later on the beach. Hard to get rid of a virgin and she was close to being a virgin.
I will post her innocent cum desiring photo when I return to the land of the great white whales.
Funny thing was I went to LDV about 11 pm and returned to the apartment at 1:30 am with a great piece of ass for 150,000 pesos toda la noches. This girl was waiting for my return and I almost had to beat her off with a stick to get her to go away. I think I trained her good and she was back for more humping like a cat in heat.
Only in developing countries can you find the fountain of youth!
LIFE IS GOOD!
Surfer, thanks for your input and opinion. The safety issue is pretty confusing for me, with most Colombians I meet telling me that Medellin is very safe and Bogota pretty safe, but there are a lot of conflicting opinions. Regarding the girls I think you're right, that Colombia being so Catholic makes them a little more reserved, but I am definitely finding more GFE here than in Brazil.
Well I didn't make it just laying on the beach all day. I ran into a pretty lady doc that I met there the other day, from Bogota, and we hung out for awhile and could only exchange emails, since her plane was leaving in a few hours. Then I get back to my apartment and the owner of my unit sent me one of his ATF's, Maria. Talk about service, and this girl could suck a ping pong ball through a garden hose! Very cute and I will post the pic when I get home, which unfortunately will be all too soon.
I have been to MDE several times and feel very safe there as well as CTG. I also travelled by bus in Jan. of this year from MDE to CLO with overnight stops in Manizales, Pereira, and Armenia. CLO did not seem safe, but the other three cities did. Just like in New York, Miami and other US cities, there are neighborhoods in MDE that you should avoid. But I felt fine in all parts of Centro and San Diego. Envigado is very safe. Even the barrios around the gondola are safe now. You can ride the Metro alone at any time safely.
Thanks for the kinds words, Doc. See you for lunch.
That thing about the birth rate may be off. The reason for plentiful chicas is that Colombianos have made themselves undesirable to Colombianas. I'm a fat, old Gringo. I can score better than a guapo, joven Colombiano. Money, of course, is king. But the chicas avoid their own men like the plague.
Went to the Marina Club(?) in CTG Friday night, near the sea port. I picked this hottie mulatta from MDE, name "Andrea". The place is inside a walled compound and the chicas are just wearing their bra & panties, rooms are behind the main building, on site service 120K COP. The main section is setup like a strip club.
Sounds like Casa del Marino. It's there for the Refinery Workers.
Mongers,
I will be returning to cartagena for my second time, and am looking forward to some nice relaxing water and women. I will be staying at the Almirante and wanted to know which way or how far is LDV from the almirante. Where is Ldv?
Fuop
The Almirante is roughly six blocks from LDV. Head up the one-way street around the Hotel Caribe and thar she blows. Don't bother getting there before 11:30 pm.
Doc Bill is no ugly American. If everyone behaved as he did, CTG would be a much nicer place.
I stayed at Almirante a couple of months ago. It's ok for ST. They take the girl's ID but she must be out by 5am. If she stays later I think there's an extra charge.
Hey, Fellow Mongers
Have not been active lately at least in a since of contributing. But for the second straight time I just returned from CTG. And again I was stuck with a chica from amigos.com. Naturally she did not let me do any independent shagging. Oh well the sex was great, free, and wild.
I'll never fall in this trap again.
On another note, be careful guys looks like a nemesis from our recent past has resurfaced. He has not gone over the top yet, but he is back to his regular haunting grounds. Probably won't take long for some of the senior and respected members to pick him out too.
Happy hunting!
Hi Guys,
Republicans like shagging as much as Democrats which just don't go on t.v. and lie about it. As a life long Republican I have shagged all over the world and will be coming to Cartegena soon, some time in June. I would love to meet up with fellow mongers regardless of their political affiliation and be naughty, very naughty, oh behave. So lets keep it real Daddy R, also as a personal friend of Jackson, I can attest to and it might come as a surprise to many that Sir Jackson is a Conservative Republican. And all of us that have been to B.A. know that he is a great guy who has always gone out of his way to help those of us that visit B.A.
Just like to know if the shagging, quality of women are better in Cartegena or Cali?
Lets focus on the shagging,
Yeah Baby
[blue]Greeting Everyone,
I was contact by several forum members regarding the recent postings in this section of the forum.
For obvious reasons, I felt compelled to "clean up" this section by deleting a number of these posts. However, this process is 100% accurate, and as a result it's possible that I may have inadverently deleted one or more posts that wern't actually involved in the flaming. If one or more of your posts were inadverently deleted in this process, please don't take it personally.
BTW, just to set the record straight, DocBill is a personal friend of mine. Do I need to say anything more?
So let's get back to the subject of this forum, which is:
[i]"The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex."[/i]
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
Sorry for the delay in this report, but adjusting to being home takes me awhile. Let me start by saying I'm already planning my next trip to Colombia, although I plan to see other places in addition to CTG. It was good, no great, for a week, but at the end I began to get a bit antsy. At any rate, as both a vacation destination and a mongering destination I highly recommend it.
Non-sexual details: I highly recommend the services of Juan Ventura. He put me in a great apartment for US $50 per day, with all the amenities. His driver, Alex, has a cab and is an honest guy with a lot of information. They both made me feel quite welcome, as did Tom and other members of this Forum.
Taxis are cheap, but you gotta clarify the price ahead of time, as there are no meters in the cabs. A trip from Laguito to the old city shouldn't cost more than $4000 pesos (less than $2.00 US). The cabs outside LDV are a ripoff, but since my apartment was in walking distance it wasn't a factor for me.
As for beach activities, since I prefer to monger at night I chose the beach behind the Hilton, because it has a lot less touts and I was left in peace for the most part. The beach itself leaves some to be desired, but the water (the Carribean) is fantastic. In my whole week there I never had bad food. They do a lot of meat, and they do it well, ranking right up there in my book with Buenos Aires. The people in general are warm and friendly, although more reserved than Brazilians and Cubans. Spanish is a must, and being conversational in it got me a long way. If you don't speak Spanish at least learn a few words; a little goes a long way there.
Ok, the girls: Surpassed by none. I found the whole scene to be a kind of mini-Copacabana, but I felt a lot safer in CTG, which is well-protected and patrolled. As mentioned earlier, I found the girls to be more GFE than Brazilians but less passionate and less wild (if that matters to you). I paid an average of $100,000 pesos for short-term (1-2 hours), which is about US $42. There are available girls everywhere, including "non-pros," and I found them easily: In the streets, cafes, restaurants and beach, and of course "ground zero," LDV. I found no need to visit any other establishment, as all my needs were met there. Plus it was just a few blocks from my apartment. I had one three way (see photo section) and for those who are interested in this it is readily available. If you prefer wilder sex, orgies and such, you might have a problem. Oral was split about 50/50 between covered and uncovered, so if it's important to you be clear about that in your negotiations.
Security was real tight both coming and going, so do get at the airport at both ends at least 2.5 hours early. You'll need the time and besides that way you'll also avoid standing in crowded lines.
If I've left anything out feel free to ask. It was trip well worth taking and I'd repeat in an heartbeat!
And enjoy my pics in the photo section, kindly posted by Longstroker!
Unless I am mistaken, I recall that about a year ago prices for top noch girls being around 60 or 70K COP todo la noche. Now it seems to risen to around 100k to 150k.
Are these new prices being charged across the board, or can you still pick up some gems at the old prices?
Only once was I able to pay 80,000. Otherwise it was strictly 100 on up. I didn't bottom troll on the streets, so I'm sure I could have gotten cheaper if I wanted to. Truth is, for forty bucks I really am quite happy and don't mind paying that at all. I've paid a lot more for a lot less in my time.
Rygin,
Your information is wrong. I have lived, for the most part, in Cartagena for over two years. The prices have not changed in that time. I am not a tough negotiator, but here is what I pay. LDV 100K, the street around LDV 60-80K, the beach 60-80K, the streets in Centro 40-60K. These prices are all in COP for an hour or two.
You can get laid for the price of a few drinks, and you can get it for 20K. As always YMMV.
Tom knows what he is talking about. From my experience, the only people who pay more than 100,000 at LDV are those who can't negotiate or those who have turned off a particular chica for some reason.
I am going to visit my girlfriend in Bucaramanga in about 2 weeks. We will be going to Cartagena for 4 or 5 days. Has any one ever stayed at the Hotel 3 Banderas.It looks like a nice place to stay. it has suites for around 180.000 pesos. Any information on the hotel would be appreciated.
Thanks Poobah, glad you liked my report. I haven't been back here since December when I made it, so I didn't get the chance to thank you earlier. Can't remember, are you the one who sent e-mail to me about international dating services? If so or not, whoever it was, I hope you had as good of a time as I did last time. I only come here so often. I enjoy this forum so much, I don't want to over do it. Thanks Jackson for providing this great place. Vegas is for losers.
Well, I'm going to see the Chica I hooked up with last time and had such a great time with. We have been in touch by phone and email, and yes she has hit me up for money. I sent her Christmas money, Valentines money, and Birthday money, which I would have sent to any girlfriend, but no more. The sad thing is that is seems very apparent that she is not being honest with me. Was the romance real? Will we generate the same sparks again, or will I wind up in LVD?
I will be there in May. Can anyone tell me if this is the high season?
Happy hunting all.
My Cartagena report from a month ago. Could not post at the time due to forum problems.
Thanks to all on WSG who posted info here, or helped me out while there.
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Just left Cartagena. Had my first taste of Colombian honey and I liked it!
Most of the girls were from La Dolce Vita, which for me is the best show in town. Excellent girls, good music, drinks not too expensive, and no entry or exit fee for you or the girl you leave with.
LDV has a lot of really slim girls who look like they just stepped out of a beauty salon. If you like this look you'll be happy here. Of course there are other types, you just have to look a bit harder.
I would not really recommend the casas. You are quite likely to get gouged on price, and the girls are not really that hot. Also, the house keeps about 60% of the money, I would rather see it going straight to the provider.
The one casa I least liked was Rócio (or sometimes written on here as Rosie's). Unfriendly management, and the price changes each time you go there, depending on what they think you'll bear. To avoid.
Casa de Marino is the one I would probably go back to. The girls are all in bikinis and will lap dance with you. Not any real lookers, but some have excellent bodies.
My best session was on my last night in town, with a semi-pro. Total GFE, I was really happy with this girl.
I was also crazy about Alejandra from LDV. A tall Caleña with an índia look, long hair down to her waist. When she hits the dancefloor she is mesmerising. I am pretty sure that these photos from NYC Expat([url=http://www.*************.info/forum/showpost.php?p=264233&postcount=224]1[/url] [url=http://www.*************.info/forum/showpost.php?p=264234&postcount=225]2[/url]) are of Alejandra.
Of the LDV girls, a couple were so-so, and a couple were very very good. The majority of them got naturally wet, no need for lube, which is pretty good compared to some other countries.
Juan Ventura is an excellent contact for apartments. Trustworthy guy and he always delivers on his promises. He manages some really nice apartments too, you will be happy.
Bukek,
The next high season is 6/15 to 7/15. And this is the least of the high seasons.
Cach,
That is Alejandra. Her body is a ten. She told me a year ago that she was from Barranquilla. The home cities and names change.
Great model and the best looking Colombiana I have done (which is saying something), but just as her exterior is incredibly beautiful, her interior is just as ugly. Her real name is NOT Alejandra, she is NOT from Barranquilla (nor Cali either but from the province of Santander) and she is really a piece of work emotionally. Again, good for ST but avoid getting entangled (not that I am complaining as I got value for my money despite taking her to an Andres which cost a bundle). Suppose I could post a few pics, despite my reluctance to do so in this anarchic environment, given that NY Expat already has posted some (though not showing as much skin).
Right on Surf. I did 4 STs with her a little over a year ago. During #2 she wanted to marry me. During #4 I thought, "How can I get tired of this hot stuff?" There isn't much between the ears. And what's there may have been scrambled by the white stuff.
Colombianas are sharks in the water looking for a green card, they want our money, our lifestyle, and everything associated with our culture. They could care less about us, they just want that Green card and our money. Never let a colombiana come tot eh United States, they will look for a other latino boyfriend fast. They are human sharks in which 99 percent of the women are prostitutes, it is in their custom to become a prostitute.
Kos
Sometimes I wonder if maybe you have never been to Colombia because you do not know what you are talking about. You claim 99 % of the woman are what? Give me and everyone else here a break please.
"99 percent of the women are prostitutes, it is in their custom to become a prostitute"
Not exaggerating or generalizing are you?
King of sluts you obviously know nothing about Colombian women other than the ones of LDV. Colombianas make the best wives of any latina women. Not the *****s naturally but there are some great women there. I know I married one and she could care less about a fucking green card. Maybe you should not go to Colombia and look for women on the set of the "Jerry Springer Show". Your name shows your level of intelligence.
I disagree with king of sluts because 100% of the women in this world are *****s. All the way from your mothers to the ladies of latin america. It is the way these women carry themseleves seperates them from the street walkers to the housewives on your blocks.
They really deserve each other. KOS: I will give you her number if you want (yes I am serious!). She fits your negative view of Colombianas to a T, and you deserve nothing less (than a cunniving ho). .
I agree Surfer this is why I seldom post anything on a free site.
Yeah, give me Alejandras phone number, if she is hot, I will bang her, then tell her to siphon all the cum out of my balls. I will treat her like the dirty ***** that she is. Please post a picture of her, i am sure that i already know here, but lets see the picture.
I have been to Cartagena three times and have to say the beach is a dump , and the touts are crazy. These people are lunatics for money on the beach,in the street, and just about everywhere else that is possible. I even had a guy try to sell me pictures in the airport.
BEAVIS IS WACKED, he does not post much, well , look at how many times he has posted, over 200 times, you sure have a lot of credibility moron. You contradict yourself in the same sentence. Boy, some of you are really stupid.
El Rey
[QUOTE=King Of Sluts]I will treat her like the dirty ***** that she is. [/QUOTE]Ok. Here we are, guys trading info on how to find hoes all over the world. Well that's fine, but try to remember that its free to respect these girls. They're human beings too.
If you've been robbed etc. by these girls its 99% your own fault. They try anything to get ALL your money, so keeping this on your mind,you can have fun and keep most of your money.
KOS, chill out.
P
Perhaps some experienced mongers can help: I will be in Ecuador in June and am thinking about making a side trip to either Medellin or Cartagena (the air fare from Quito is about the same for both places). Which one would you guys recommend (the criteria being ease of mongering, quality of girls, safety, and overall good time). I have read many of the posts here - just a prisoner of indecision, I guess.
Thanks in advance.
Cheers
If you would open your eyes you will see that I did not post anything about Alejandra. I have no idea who Alejandra is so get your facts straight before you begin with the insults King of Pussies.
King of Sluts: Gone just a few minutes and I miss him already. Lived in Panama for 2 years and knows everything about Colombianas. The Forrest Gump of the internet. Run Forrest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think we should start a pool bet on when he will join ******* in the banned users section.
If your Spanish is good, do Medellin but if not you'll probably find Cartagena more user friendly. Both will be better than Quito.
Arrived in Cartagena and took a large apartment in Boca Grande for COP 80,000. Wheater is hot and cloudy, a little bit better today, that may make it worth to hang out by the beach a little. I have been here three nights and have not visited LDV yet. I have seen the street girls and was not too interested except for the one that I've posted pictures in the photo section. I love hookers dressed as that and could not resist this one. I was short on local currency and gave her USD 30 plus tax money, but it took a while to convince her, on the other hand she is nice to be with but not passionate.
The most business I did at pleyboy. I walk in in the first night and all the girls are absolutely doable with some really hot. The minimum drink is 7,000 and the barfine for all the night 100,000 that can be talked down to 80,000. The staff is friendly and I was talking a little with a pretty brunette, big boobs with braces, she had a little bit of attitude and told me covered BJ only. Then I call this legged slim blonde with tanned complexion. She turned out to be sweet and nice to be with. At some point a couple of civilian cops and a lot of soldiers walk in, turn all the light on, and start checking on customers. I was a little bit worried not having any ID with me and tolld this girl, L. She said she would go to get my passport at the apartment in case I was detained. Knowing her and the way that pleyboy business I trust she would have honestly helped me out. Luckly it wasn't necessary because the soldiers barely gave me a short look and just friskied others clients then left.
At pleyboy girl's numbers are give freely because the girl are free to do whatever they want during the day. So I call L. the following day for 100,000 plus taxi money and was happy, she has an incredible body and sweet personaly. Unfortunately she didn't get much excited so all the work remained on my side, that can be a little boring at times.
After the experience with the black L above, the following night I go back to pleyboy to take L. out for the whole night. I arrive and she wasn't there at 9 as promised. Her colleagues told that she was to come back shortly, but in the meanwhile I hook-up with this absolute beauty, M. very typical colombiana with tiny waisteline hips breast to die for, and super pretty face. Turns out that it was her first night and she was very nervous, wanted me to pay there, a lot of talks on the matter, in the meanwhile I talk on the phone to L. and tell her that if she doesn't come I was to take out someone else. At the end L. arrives and I take her out for dinner at the caracteristic plaza Domingo, that between food, singing and taxi can be quite expensive.
We spend the most part of the night for a reasonable 100,000, I had told her about the brunette M and she says that if this is my desire she will try convince her to come together at my apartment today for a trio. So I will call later and see what happens. The thing is that they are both sweet girls without too much experience and not tigers in bed. But, that is fine, one has to adapt himself to the situations and take the best out of everything. Beside, I do not really need hard sex has I had enough in the recent past.
The only other question in my mind is if I should call the pedicure lady that gave me her numer without me asking for.
over and out from el flaco.
Yesterday I have received again the visit of Blonde L. I was kind of expecting her to bring Hot M. with her but no, she came alone... I wasn't really disappointed and we went out for some shopping. As always, that turned out to be more expensive than hard cash. But, still is a small price for an excellent time with a dedicated companionship. Even sex was better this time, with some girls just take time whilke others are tigers since the very first time.
Well at night I let Blonde L. go for her usual pleyboy business, looking for a small dinner I stop by this cafe terrace by the Hotel Paris. There, I found Black L with a couple of girlfriends, one was a tall girl named S. We have some dinner and chat and I decide that since the trio with the whites has faded out, I will have it with the Blacks. So we head back to my apartment and this went pretty much as I expected, at be beginning L. didn't really partecipated much as she was busy looking at her pictures on my thinkpad. In exchange, Tall S. proved to be a good player provinding excellent BBBJ and energy. As a friend monger told me once, trios are not an easy thing and it took quite a lot of work to get L. in the game, I was teasing her calling her wasted money, at the end we had enough fun with varied oral and intercourse.
No surprisingly, L. left when she deemed had given enough (and had another client waiting) so I stayed with Tall S. for the night, she was sweet but again energetic in bed. This girl has began working very recently and remained until late morning for breakfast and an excellent session. She liked my Cumbia Villera MP3's, we laught at lot at these explicit lyrics that gave her a vision on some culture she didn't knew. I have posted a picture of her in the photo section.
I'm now going to pick up the lady from the estetics shop next door and probably have a relaxed dinner and evening.
All is good in Cartagena, O and O.
Yoare in error, latinas are not more ***** than gringas it changes only the prices.Gringas are bither for biger money and latinas for less moneus of course. because they are poorer. But u can not sAY that gringas loves less money and good life than a latina. Everybody like good lifestyle tha diference is the price. Cheapers in poor nation and more expensive in Europe or USA. A nothing man in usa can be considered as a rich gringo in USA. This is the only diference.
I will be visiting Cartagena with a couple of friends during during May. We are all 25 y/o, athletic figured and well educated from the USA. I've visited a number of latin american countries and carribean countries but this is my first trip to Colombia. I'm trying to arrange housing for us to stay in preferably apartment style housing close to all the happenings such as clubs, beaches and other cool action to check out while we are visiting, does anyone know of good places to stay that are nice clean and located to happenings or a person to contact? Also I'm trying to place and ad in the local newspaper there in Cartagena (I'm already on Amigos does anyone know of any other good websites to meet Colombianos on?) so If anyone knows how I can arrange that please let me know.
Please feel free to PM me,
Thanks guys.
See [url]http://www.zepelion.com/apartamentos/index.htm[/url] for apartment rentals. Juan Ventura is a gem. He knows us well, has great places, and perfect locations.
As far as placing ads, don't bother. I wouldn't bother with amigos.com either. You will find all you want at La Dolce Vita, Giro Matto, and the beach in front of Hotel Las Velas.
The local online newspaper is [url]http://www.eluniversal.com.co/[/url]
Perkele: First of all your right on the money with treating the hoes with respect, that gets you a hell of a long way! But they are who they are and we are who we are! Dude are you out of your mind! I get robbed and in most cases it is 99% my fault? Bro I know that your trying to make a point here but dude I go take a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] and forget to but all my shit in lock down and it is my fault that the puta rips me off?
Again I agree with the respect thking all the way, but if a hoe acts like a Mujer then that is how I will treat her if she behaves like a Puta, then I will kick her ass to the curb in a New York Minute, and if I catch her trying to steal from me!
King of Sluts: Dude your statement is just to fucking wacked to even waste my time with a response! Fuck it! The beches suck, the touts are all after your money, all the woman there are prostitutes, (sorry 99% of them) the people of Cartagena are all crazy, there culture is all fucked, and they all want to come to the states. All of which you oppose!
But your dumb ass keeps going back for more! KoS: Do you actually read your shiot before you hit the send button? I hate that place, I hate that place, but I can't wait to get back there just so I can leave that place!
Dude you sound like my ex-wife! Man the fuck up, and move the fuck on! LMAO!
Sorry guys this is post is real late, but still neeed to share with you all!
I hit the beach Thanksgiving day 2004. My buddy Alex picked me up from the airport, took me to my Hotel room and tucked me in, a joke OK!
First of all this guy Alex is the absolute shit, he knows everybody in Cartagena and everyone know his ass! This cat is a real honest guy and can hook you up with just about anything that is legal, and all he ask for is a descent tip!
I stayed at the Decameron All Inclusive, not recommended by Surfer, and he was right not Chica friendly at all, but if there is a will there is a way!
This trip I was cash poor and credit card rich, the reason for my pick in hotels! As far as Chicas go all you have to do is book the room for two people in advance! My buddy set me up with a Chica in advance, and she was 32 and hot! Damn I thought she was 25 or so!
The Hotel Decameron does the wrist band thing, so all you have to do is check in, and tell them that you guest will be here later, when she gets there just give her the wrist band and your good to go!
If you want to get rid of that Chica and get another, just surgically remove her wrist band and glue, tape or lick to your next Chicas wrist!
All Inclusive for two was $80 U.S. a night not to bad, the food was OK, but you are sure to find MUCH better in town, like I said I was on a credit card budget this time!
This trip four days and did not hit LDV one time, this trip I hung out in the old city and had the best time of my life! Nothing but Salsa dancing till dawn, and god I had an absolute blast!
Spanish: My Espanol sucks but so so I! If you make an effort to speak Spanish to them they are so damn impressed and that also will go a hell of a long way, makes them feel special I guess!
Hell when I got into troble, I broke out my translator and they where even more impressed, that I made an even bigger attempt to talk with them in Spanish!
So what did I pay! Hotel scroll! My Chica food fun and $50 at the end. For you guys that wnat to call me cheap, fuck you, I don't have a friend in the States introduce me to a girl and pay her for her services! Tiped Alex $50 for the intro and paid him $100 to teach her more English!
My Old City Chicas $25 for a few hours!
Short report guys and long over due, but at least i do share with the Forum!
[QUOTE=Latina Passion]First of all this guy Alex is the absolute shit, he knows everybody in Cartagena and everyone know his ass! This cat is a real honest guy and can hook you up with just about anything that is legal, and all he ask for is a descent tip!
[/QUOTE]
My 2 cents on guides in Cartagena. Never hire one.
You may think that having a guide gets you locals' prices. Wrong! The first thing they'll do is make sure you're paying the gringo rate, plus negotiate a further upcharge. This upcharge is their commission on any session you do, sometimes drinks as well.
I am a pretty generous guy, especially in a country where prices are cheap. But I got tired of that generosity being abused by guides and taxi drivers in Cartagena. Example, we invited the taxi driver to wait for us inside Casa de Marino. Bought a round of beers and included him in it. Later came back and found out he'd had 3 beers on our tab, didn't ask me or my friend if it was OK. And the next day I found out that the taxi driver and guide were also getting a commission off each of our drinks, which of course they never mentioned.
Alex can't be trusted, only hung out with him a few hours and it's obvious he'll say anything for money. His advice was not worth paying for either, he took us to one place and it was shit. During that time I saw him rip off his so called friend by collecting money over and above what he'd actually paid at the bar for drinks.
LP, I'm glad you had a good time in Cartagena. The above is only my opinion, in the end we all should please ourselves on vacation so I am not criticising your choice. Just adding my experience. But I would also add that Alex has a very poor reputation in previous reports on the forum, as well as from locals in Cartagena that I met.
Cachorro is right on the mark on all counts. Alex is a decent enough kid, but he is the product of Colombian society. Everyone is on commission.
Since roughly 80% of the tourist pesos in Cartagena come from other Colombians, it's not a matter of fucking the foreigner. This town is geared to fuck the tourist.
We could be talking about two different people here! I saw a few post on an Alex that owns a taxi cab, but this is not the Alex I'm talking about!
In any case my experenice with Alex the three times that I have benn to Cartagena have all been great! The only time that I have tiped him was my last trip to CTG last November!
Hell the $50 bucks I tiped him was well worth it. Cachorro, I hear you tho I hate getting ripped off even if it is for a dime!
[QUOTE=Latina Passion]We could be talking about two different people here! I saw a few post on an Alex that owns a taxi cab, but this is not the Alex I'm talking about!
In any case my experenice with Alex the three times that I have benn to Cartagena have all been great! The only time that I have tiped him was my last trip to CTG last November!
Hell the $50 bucks I tiped him was well worth it. Cachorro, I hear you tho I hate getting ripped off even if it is for a dime![/QUOTE]I know exactly which Alex you are talking about, and well as Alex the taxi driver. Alex the guide is a street hustler, and as such is only looking to separate you from your money. 3 trips and all you paid was $50 ? This guy wants $50k peso a day for his services. Further you end up paying for food and drinks and entrances to any club. Worse, he loves to run up the minutes on your cell phone. Working with Alex is like adopting a child.
I dont know why some people rave about his services, they are completely over-rated. Anyone can find pros in Cartagena, why do you need a guide for that ?
There are numerous bad reports on other sites regarding Alex the guide. LP, give it time, I guarantee your opinion on Alex will change.
[QUOTE=Latina Passion]We could be talking about two different people here! I saw a few post on an Alex that owns a taxi cab, but this is not the Alex I'm talking about!
In any case my experenice with Alex the three times that I have benn to Cartagena have all been great! The only time that I have tiped him was my last trip to CTG last November!
Hell the $50 bucks I tiped him was well worth it. Cachorro, I hear you tho I hate getting ripped off even if it is for a dime![/QUOTE]Alex the guide (not taxi Alex) is a street hustler, plain and simple. His sole purpose is to separtate you from your money. The guy wants $50k peso a day for his services, this does not include food and drinks for the day and or night. Further, he skims money off the pros he finds you, as well as inflates the prices of any by the hour room you rent. If he see's you have a cell phone, he will run out your minutes on it.
Dont be fooled into thinking he is your friend, he is not ! I dont like wasting money, and Alex is a big waste of money.
Never again.
Latina Passion - I assume you tipped him $50 ON TOP of his fee of 50,000P per day plus expenses. Especially since all he talks about is getting a good tip at the end.
Sylvester hit the nail on the head - being with Alex is like adopting a child. He won't shut up, ever. Constantly running his mouth and in a loud voice - very embarrassing.
I used him for 2 days before dismissing him. I don't mind guys that are all about the money, buy don't make it so obvious. It just took the pleasure out of being at a club when he's constantly asking for money for drinks or whatever.
I will give him this: he ALWAYS smiled, even when I was telling him to shut the fuck up. I didn't come on vacation to listen to someone else's problems.
And after using him to translate on the second day (the primary reason I hired him), I dismissed him - and never regretted it.
My first and only experience with a "guide".
YOU DON'T NEED A GUIDE IN CARTAGENA - VERY TOURIST FRIENDLY.
Frankly, I don't think you need a guide in any city - but that's just me. I think all the info you need can be found on this and other boards. That's why I belong to boards - FOR THE INFO - isn't that why you belong to the board?
SL
The Alex that owns the taxi is not a kid. I am glad that you enjoyed your experiences with Alex the street hustler. I do not believe that many others will share your opinion.
As far as I'm concerned Alex is a good guy, I'm sorry if some of you have had a bad experience with the man, however I just can't concur with you all!
Trust me I do know the man is a hustler, but from my experience it was a bargain! $50 bucks for 10 to 15 hours of his time and he hooked me up with a fine ass Chica, in my blind eyes nothing wrong with that picture!~
And the $50 I tipped him came from my generosity, he did not even ask for it!
Truth be known he might be just a tad bit bias in my case!
Guys thanks for your input and heads up about Alex, time to move on tho!
LP
I been reading for the last two weeks this Cartagena Forum, because I'll be
there in 5 weeks more, first time, but I had been in other places of Colombia
specific at Bogota. My question, What about 3 holers girls? like we find in Rio or Buenos aires, where about 50 % are completas. Any at LDV? I'm taking
note about places to stay, I prefer a private apartment and for sure I'll be
at LDV and Pleyboy to check the material. Thanks for any input.
Happy hunting and out
Razor
Maybe the others saw your member and got scared (if you are hung like John Holmes), but I'd say more like 90% in Rio are into completo. Not my thing (though I did it in Rio several times when the garota ASKED ME TO), but I'd be VERY surprised if you have a 50% rate of success in Colombia which is ingherently a conservative country/culture (unlike Brasil). Ditto for duplas and festinhas: if you want wild you best stick with Brasil (or SE Asia) as Colombianas are more prone to GFE than Buttman in Brazil style action.
Surfer....I realize about that now....I guess I have to control my appetite
for my next visit to Bs As, but I'll try anyway in Cartagena.....maybe with
some luck and timing I'll be able to find a darling ready for "El completo",
always happened to me. Thanks for the reply.
Happy hunting.....and out
Razor
Me and my amigos are coming from Miami to Panama for 5 days then to Cartagena for 7 days on Copa Airlines for $412 Round Trip! Anyone who will be down there May 21st - May 28th shoot me a PM and maybe we can get together and chica hunt and have good times. I've been lining up some cool chicks online and have em ready to go and I'm looking forward to arriving. Anyone know how much a cabbie is to Laguito from the Airport? Any contacts would be appreciated feel free to PM me. I will provide plenty of pics and a nice trip report.
Peace!
Gentlemen,
Here is my two cent for using a guide in Cartagena.
Save the money for that, you will be much more sucessfull when you speak some spain. Believe me, it is not a difficult language!
Trendy Andy
I cant describe if you will have half the fun when you are not in spanish ore have the double if yuo are in.
[QUOTE=Atl Dennis]Me and my amigos are coming from Miami to Panama for 5 days then to Cartagena for 7 days on Copa Airlines for $412 Round Trip! Anyone who will be down there May 21st - May 28th shoot me a PM and maybe we can get together and chica hunt and have good times. I've been lining up some cool chicks online and have em ready to go and I'm looking forward to arriving. Anyone know how much a cabbie is to Laguito from the Airport? Any contacts would be appreciated feel free to PM me. I will provide plenty of pics and a nice trip report.
Peace![/QUOTE]I think it was around 10k to 12k peso.
...it was 10k from the airport to laguito. I usually confirm it before I get in the cab to quell any ideas to raise it. It's 4k from laguito to the old city, it helps to remember that. I'll be there during your trip, I'll PM you and maybe we get a beer one night...
Hello fellow monger,
What is exactly a 3 holer, I'm not familiar with the term. Also, any one planning to be in Cartagena middle of June?
The rate from the airport to Laguito is 11,500 pesos. If you walk two blocks from the airport, the rate is 7000. There is an airport tax. If you have more than carry-on luggage, you might want to tip 1,000 or 2,000.
tom, thanks for the correction on the taxi rate, my memory must have been a little foggy. I've slept since then....
Agree with you on the tip thing too, however it reminded me of my last trip leaving cartagena. One of those guys with the rolling carts basically grabbed my luggage from the curb, put it on the cart and hauled it to the end of the avianca check in line before I could voice too much of a protest. The whole process lasted about 60 seconds. Well, I figured I didn't ask him to do it, but I knew he expected a tip, so I said what the hell and gave him 2000 pesos for his 60 seconds of work. Man, you'd have thought I handed him a fresh turd!
His disgust and disappointment were acted out brilliantly. Can't wait to see him again on my next trip :-)
Just use some imagination 3 holers......top hole (mouth)....front hole (every monger love it).....and back hole (not every one can go)......but if the girl
is a 3 holers.......is a go.......COMPLETISIMA!
Happy Hunting....and out
Ah I see. I was wondering if I had the same thoughts about the "words".
I just can't wait to get down there for some diving and some mongering.
Again, anyone going to be there mid June? I know it is the high season, but that is when I can break free. I do need to get a place to stay. Based on the previous reports I will do the appartment thing . It is my first trip and I hope things will work out well.
Cheers to all
[QUOTE=Tom 33]The rate from the airport to Laguito is 11,500 pesos. If you walk two blocks from the airport, the rate is 7000. There is an airport tax. If you have more than carry-on luggage, you might want to tip 1,000 or 2,000.[/QUOTE]
thanks for the tip. I have always been quoted 12,000 pesos. "Doce mil"
Always hand on to your suitcase as you come out the door. Someone will grab it to try to put it in the trunk and then hound you with "PROPINA!"
The taxi rates changed on Jan. 31 of this year. The 12K rate is correct between 8 pm and 5 am because there is a 500 peso night differential. Also, an air conditioned taxi can charge 10% more.
Hi all :
Please help me in picking one of these cities for hobby.
I dont speak spanish and I want easy access of beautiful fair skinned women.
I will be in for only 4 days so no time to waste chasing women.
Thanks.
Tony.
Come on Tom you ain't going to walk 2 blocks with your luggage to save $1.92. Hows it going?
The plane from bog gets in 22:40, so i guess i'll be at the hotel before midnight in CTG on a Thursday.
I don't want to waste anytime, so i want a taxi to an open restaurant\bar and then maybe disco or casa?
The question is are they open that late?
On a Thursday?
Hey, $1.92 is $1.92. For 5000 pesos, I can have lunch.
Just got back to the US for summer. Hope wedded bliss is everything you wanted.
Come on guys help in deciding which city to choose for fair skinned ladies for 4 days. I speak no spanish.
4 DAYS, I recommend Cartagena. Cali originally had many African slaves to work on the farms. They now live in Cali.
Cartagena has girls from all around Colombia. Lightest girls come from Medellin, where the Spaniards found gold and did not bring slaves from Africa.
Tom somehow I do not see you walking with your bags nor do I see you worrying about $1.92, hope all is well, suerte. My life now is great. It was fun but I don't miss the lies. the only thing I miss is hanging out with guys like you.
I spent 10 days in Cartagena in late April / early May. Here's some notes:
Non-mongering stuff:
Accomodation: While most people seem to stay in Bocagrande, I would definitely recommend getting something in or around the old town. Bocagrande is an ugly concrete desert, while the old town is really beautiful, with lots of things to do. You will probably go back and forth to Bocagrande two times a day (to the beach and to get a girl - see below), but the ride takes only 5 minutes and costs about $2. We had an apartment at the edge of the old town (opposite Cafe del Mar - see below), which was very convenient. We paid $35 per night for a 2 bedroom with aircon. Unfortunately, I don't have contact details. But just walk around in the area, people offering apartments will find you!
Beach: As was mentioned below, the touts on the public beaches are extremely annoying. Go to the beach of the Hilton instead! Get a taxi to drive you to the Hilton, just walk through the lobby and hotel to the pool, grap one of the towels left on a beachchair and go to the beach. Being a foreigner with a Hilton towel, no one will doubt you belong here.
Sunsets: Cafe del Mar is the place to be. It is not quite the same as its Ibiza' role model, but still a terrific place, with cool lounge music, sofas to hang out on, and great cocktails. It's on the old city wall - every taxi driver will know where it is.
Dinner: We usually had dinner on Plaza Santo Domingo in the old town. The restaurants there are probably 2-3x as expensive as other places, but it's still so cheap that we did not care, and the setting is just spectacular. We tried most of the places on the Plaza, and they are all fairly comparable in terms of prices and quality. The steak is very recommended.
Mongering
Non-P4P: You have to speak Spanish (which I don't), as almost no girl speaks English. The chicas seemed very open and interested (once, when I was running on the beach, I had 3 or 4 groups of girls waving at me to come over), but due to my language problems, I can't really say how easy it is to score.
Pleyboy: Taxi drivers will always try to convince you that you should go there, because it's a longer ride than LDV, so they can charge more. Don't go: The place is ugly, the girls are more expensive and less attractive than at other places.
La Dolce Vita: Well covered on this forum and definitely a must-go. Most girls will charge you about 100k for one hour, some of the less attractive ones you can get for 70-80k, some of the stunners will not go below 120-150k. Some specific recommendations:
- There's a real beauty called Tanaa (or something like that), she has some red color in her otherwise black hair. She is really good and sweet in bed, totally recommended. Nice DFK, but unfortunately no BBBJ, and I did not manage to get her below 120k (she starts at 150k).
- A girl called Vivi who usually sits at the column at the far end of the place (seen from the entry), with a very long upper body who usually wears jeans and a shirt that leaves here belly uncovered. She charges 100k, is very sweet, does nice DFK and BBBJ (no CIM). If you go with her, say hello from me (Chris...).
- Her friend, usually sitting next to her (although that might have changed - they had a fight over me at the end of my stay, and Vivi said she will never talk to her friend again...). Forgot her name, she is from Cali, tall, pretty, big boobs, nice smile. Starts at 150k but comes down to 100k, DFK, great BBBJ and CIM.
Tripleterra (or something like that): Surprisingly, this place has not been covered on this forum. It is in the old town (just ask any local), nice club with good music and atmosphere (better than LDV, much better than pleyboy). Less girls than at LDV, but similar quality and generally cheaper (60-80k for one hour, plus you pay 10k take-out fee for the girl). Semi-recommendation: There is a very cute girl called Gloria there, who is also very sweet in bed, unfortunately quite shy and inexperienced. If you like the VE (virgin experience), go with her (and say hello from me...).
good post. Vino.
I agree with you 99%.
I also enjoy the very large mall and movie theatres. There is a smaller theatre in Boca Grande with one screen only.
I enjoy using the pool at Hilton also. Also tried the breakfast for free but was presented with a bill. Breakfast was worth the cost with eggs bennedict. Truly a great hotel, and I hear the cost is about $85 a night.
Also enjoy the street action. Cannot post photos, on this site to share with you, but many street girls about 18 or 19 for 40,000 pesos. GREAT!
Kindly stop using this kind of behaviour. It gives a bad name to all the tourists.
Hello. Below is a report from my trip to Cartagena a couple of weeks ago:
Spent a week in the El Laguito area. Found it to be relatively safe. I was out many nights around 3am and never had a problem. You can't escape the touts, they are basically everywhere. Just politely say "no gracias amigo" and they will pretty much leave it at that. There are alot less touts around at night, so that makes it easier. I also visited Bocagrande and the walled city. Both are nice areas. I figured there would be alot more nightlife in the walled city area. I didn't see too much action, but maybe I just didn't hit the right places at the right times. I think next time I will explore this area in more detail.
LDV is truly a great place. Lots of really good looking women. My spanish is limited, but I tried really hard to speak the language. Trying to speak spanish really does go a long way, and you'll be surprised how much you can pick up words and phrases in a week's time. I know it helped me, because I could negotiate prices to around 80,000 pesos, and I wasn't even trying too hard. Just try to start a conversation with them, and be respectful. I basically pulled a different woman out of there each night around 1am, and they usually stayed the night. Also, rent an apartment rather than using a hotel. I had an apartment with a nice ocean view, and the women really seem to enjoy it. Never had a chance to visit the Playboy club, not too sure how the talent compares to LDV.
Taxis will run about 5000 pesos to go from laguito to the walled city. Negotiate price first with the driver, because there are no meters. I never had a problem with any of the drivers. They all seemed friendly to me.
Overall, had a really nice trip, and plan on visiting again in the future.
I was told that Cartegena would be best if searching for Black colombian women. Ive seen several post that imply that Cali would be best. Could someone please let me know which is best for darker skineed Colombians? Someone here must know 4 sure!
Where to find best air fares from PTY to CTG round trip.
[QUOTE=Tony USA]Where to find best air fares from PTY to CTG round trip.[/QUOTE]
Looks like COPA ([url]www.copaair.com[/url]) is the cheapest (and non-stop) @ $283 r/t all included.
Avianca is is few bucks more and you connect through Bogota.
West Air ([url]www.west.com.co[/url]) is a small Colombian airline and they fly cheap non-stop from Panama to Medellin and San Andreas, but not to CTG, if you ever thin of going to those destinations.
Well, things went about as well with my chica as I predicted. The first time I visited, the time with her was great, everything I could ask for and more, the moment I bought the flight ticket for the second trip it was all about the money, which had never been brought up the first time I was there. I guess that is a lesson for those who want to learn the easy way. Her name is Nubia, and I met her on Match.com, so beware gents. She is a very classy lady, but the second trip is when she goes for the money.
I arrived, and she didn't meet me at the airport. I wasn't real surprised, I hadn't contacted her for a week before arriving. I went to the apartment that I rented from Mary at Torre Centauro. I have to say, Mary is excellent for renting apartments from. She is very understanding and helpful. I highly reccomend her for first timers. I got a two bedroom with AC and first class accomodations in Largito for 100 mil pesos a night. The apartment was really better than most resorts, except not having the pool and the other amenities. Also the doormen were very excellent, and very helpful. A good doorman is important when you are juggling chicas. You can shop around and get cheaper apartments, but I found the treatment I got from Mary and the doormen worth the extra cost. The place is just three buildings from the Hilton.
Anyway, back to mongering. After taking a nap I went over to the internet cafe in the tall building next to the Hilton to call my chica to see how things would go, and got picked up by three very good looking pros who took me upstairs for a foursome that was one of the best experiences of my life. The girls are from Bogota and have worked in Panama. Their names are Diane, Denise, and Monica. Diane lookds a bit like Julia Roberts, Denise like the star in Elektra, and Monica like Candy Loving, Playboys, the real Playboy, 25th anniversary playmate. I don't know how the rest of you like your women, but I like em on the short side, and a bit thick. Monica is probably the best looking woman I have ever seen, even in photos, for my taste. Big natural tits, a nice round booty that is really spectacular, and a thin waist with a bit of a six pack, and a very gorgeous face. I paid way too much for Colombia, I won't even say how much, but they reciprocated in return. We spent the next twelve hours together. Then they had to return to Bogota.
Then I hooked up with my now former chica. It was for a couple of fancy dinners, no partying late and dancing, no sex, so after our third time together, I dropped her and told the doorman not to let her up.
I went to LVD a couple of nights. I went to Pleyboy the first time, and was amazed at the numbers of gorgeous women, and found LVD to be just as good. I was paying a 100 mil for twice. All night means sex and sleep, so if you want it at least twice, I recommend you put that into the negotiations. The first girl was a little spinner, and really tight, but I wasn't interested in a second night. The second girl's name was Jennifer, I think. Definately the most fuckin ***** I have ever been with, except for maybe this girl in Angeles City in PI way back when. She has blonde hair and her skin is so fair she looks like a natural blonde. The nights I was at LVD she sat mainly by the front door. I spent two nights with her. If you are into sport fucks, I highly recommend her. Inbetween multiples, this girl would be playing with herself.
Still, my heart belonged to Monica, so I left Cartagena early to spend a few nights with Monica in Bogota. She let me stay at her place, for a inflated price, but it was all worth it. What can I say, when I find a good one, I want to stay with her for awhile.
Can you please give Mary's contact info.
Actually it is Mery Salence. Her contact info is here on the forum, and many have rented from her. Look around in the photos and the Cartagena forum and you will see many references. I'd dig it out and post it, but I'm just too damn lazy. Besides, you will have more fun looking for it.
[QUOTE=Tony USA]Can you please give Mary's contact info.[/QUOTE]Mery Salence
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Just returned recently from a excellent first time trip with two of my fellas to Panama and Colombia. I flew COPA Airlines from Miami to Panama May 17 - May 21 then onto Cartagena Saturday May 21 to Sunday May 29 for a grand total of $412 round trip!
I will be breaking this trip report up with my coverage of Saturday- Monday Nights then I will write about Tuesday-Saturday a bit later.
Arrival in Cartagena, Customs
Landed in Colombia from 4 days in Panama on-time and exchanged a quick $50 at the Money exchange place at a 2150 rate. Then cleared customs and I have never seen such a thorough seach of baggage than in Colombia, they were really searchin through all my bags, pulling out everything. I had a chica waiting for me outside the airport looking through that window tryin to scope me out...lol. I met the chick on amigos and I almost totally forgot I told her my flight info and to meet me there on arrival. I was'nt trippin because baby was "Bad" and she rolled with us in the taxi to Boca Grande Beachand I pounced on her a few minutes into settling into the apartment even though my spanish is bear mininum. Baby was a student at the University and very clingy and wanted me to go to Rosario Islands the next day but I shook her after fucking the first afternoon.
ALEX THE GUIDE
Actually I had Alex (The Guide) pick me up from the Airport and this began the beginning of the Mr Loudmouth experience! Me and Alex talked a few times before I arrived and even chatted on MSN and I basically told him that "I'm 25 years old (Alex is like 23) and I really don't need a guide because I've visited a few latin countries and I blend in very well because I have a light brown complexion In athletic shape and African American. But I basically told him that I just like to get out and make it happen with my guys BUT I will call you if I have any questions just as a friend (People were surprised that I was'nt Colombian and did'nt speak Spanish). I let him know that I just needed know what's going on with the clubs in Cartagena and then we can definately hang out and get on some chics and fuck hoes, like I do with my friends back here in the states.
Me and Alex had a good vibe but my friend who rolled with me was'nt really feeling the guy. Alex means well, but dude really is very loud and kind of embarrasing speakin in LOUD ENGLISH to me and my boy. We went to his house and had some drinks and greenery while taking in the view of Cartagena Bay and were just vibing at his place in Manga (which is the upscale neighborhood in Cartagena) and we talked and dude was basically tellin us he needed a "Tip" plus expenses (Taxi,Phone Card, Food) when I heard that I shook him right there that first night on Saturday because i told him I was'nt paying him to kick it with me. It was understood and we went back to our Boca Grande Beach Apartment directly on the Ocean around 7ish to get ready for the night!
Apartment/Accomodations
Mery rented us the apartment and you guys have her info here on the website/ It was a 3 bedroom with a beautiful ocean view on the 10th floor of a 12th floor building. Has a little stereo, TV and new appliances and freshly painted with a view to die for! Matter a fact when the chics walked in they walked straight to the balcony and it was almost hypnotic to the chicas, It always got me in that proper mood to get ready to fuck or relax. The apartment address was Torre Caribe II directly across the street from Boca Grande Beach. The apartment was great and was located centrally to everything in Boca Grande Beach and a 6-7 block walk to LDV. And a 5 minute ride to the OLD CITY by Bus-Moto-Taxi.
Saturday Night @ "The Arsenal District - Old City"...Almost in LDV and The Alejandra Experience.
After my first sex session with Lufre (Amigos Chica #1) and dealing with Alex I was ready to get back to my apartment and set it up for the week with FOOD AND LIQUOR and BEER! So we went to the Olimpica which was One block away and a good place to meet local chicas as well while walking down the street. I talked to alot of the local chicas and they told me that me and my friends should head to "The Arsenal District" which is the area of the Old City where most of the trend setting, upscale young Cartagenians with money from Manga or La Popa neighborhoods head to to have a good time. Me and my guys stepped into a few clubs and worked a few clubs that were Jam packed, they were playing mostly Electonic Music and Salsa and Colombian Type music, mostly 18-22 y/o chics, I pulled a few numbers out of there to hook it up for a date or two during the week but the place was a bit pretentious and my dudes were'nt really feelin it. In hindsight we should've went to the clubs on the south side of town (30-40 minute taxi ride from Boca Grande @ Night) the first night on Pedro De Heredia Avenue (Karamba, Green Moon, El Burladero, Sahara) that Alex first told me about but since that was our first night we wanted to stick closer to home. But we would check out the clubs in the Hood Barrios later during the week. It was about 3 in the morning when we left the "Arsenal" and headed to LDV!
Well it was kind of late and LDV was closed but I ran up on a cold stunner that has been covered here in the forum Alejandra! We were outside of LDV and she was just kicking it outside of LDV and I struck up a conversation with her, told her to come back to my place and she happily agreed. She was wearing this nice black dress, black heels, hair done up real nicely, real nice Morena chica. Tities were sitting right and she had a very nice body. We went to my place and I turned on some music from my IPOD-Stero that I travel with of course I have a nice Merengue, Reggaeton and Salsa mix for her and she just starts doing a little show for me.
She starts Dancing all on me, strip-teasing and getting me naked and out of my pants at the same time. Then she started to blow me with a BBBJ that was out of this world! Real affectionate chick, then of course the deed went down and the sex was OFF THE HOOK. Pussy was real tight, worked her out in a major way and finished her off by picking her up and bringing her to the balcony, had her Doggystyle over lookin the Ocean, then Porno style pullin the condom off after I pull out of her and busted all over her ASS! Superb! After that mami came back to the the room for a bit of shut eye and pillow talk then I smashed again one good time before sending her on the way around 7am. Gave her ass 65K which is 29 US bucks took her cell number down just in case I felt the urge for her later during the week and she rolled out. Alejandra is HIGHLY RECCOMENDED! I did'nt even talk price with her b4 hand. I had a rule of thumb for this trip that If was going to pay for Pussy I was'nt going to drop more than 30 US dollars to fuck. But with that I like to make a connection with the chick which is usually brough on by more drinks and me just talking to them and them feeling real comfortable with me. I never ran into a problem the whole week!
Sunday @ The Beach and Touring Old City and Amigos Chica #2...
The next day me and some buds went to go explore the Old City a bit and took the sites in. Cartagena is a real cool city and they have interesting things to see in the Old City. The apartment rentals are cheaper in the Old City as well, next time I might stay there because it's even cheaper but it's something about having that beach right in front of you, even though I never once went swimming at Boca Grande. I was saving my Beach experience for whichever Non-Pro lucky chica I would meet during the course of my stay that would accompany me to Rosario Islands on the next Friday, which is a archipelago of Islands off the coastof Colombia (A version of the Florida Keys with clearer water and more beautoful beaches). It seemed like the Old City had much more Non-Pro Chicas just going through there since they havea University in the Old City and alot of young people It might be a good outpost. They have much better bars and restaurants there as well. Pick your poison!
I did'nt wake up on Sunday until about 3pm...lol so we got a late start on the day. After going through the old city we returned and I hooked up with Amigos Chica #2 she was a nice chica whose both mom and dad are Doctors in Cartagena White Colombiana who came with her friend to hang out at our apartment, we did'nt have sex, just a little touching and affection on the beach she was a long-term project but I was'nt interested in that on that trip, she let me know what was going on though in the city so she was good for something. We hit the beach and they went home. The plan that night was to check out LDV but we went to sleep that night because cats were tired from Panama and the long night with Alejandra the previous night.
Monday - Chance meeting with a employee at Foreign Affair & La Tripletera
During the day cats just chilled out and did'nt do a thing. Just lazily went to the beach to check out the scene but Monday was kinda slow. I took a walk down the main boulevard just flirting with Internet Center Chicas and Retail Store chicas. Then I saw this fine Ass morena walking out of this office and said "Hola" she did'nt say anything back then I said some words to here in English and BINGO! She was talking...lol. come to find out baby spoke English and worked at the Foreign Affair Agency. We talked for awhile and and liked me, I was tryin to get at her but she had a boyfriend so she personally set me up for a late afternoon lunch date with one of her friends who is not in their database of trying to meet guys. Her friend I will call her FA #1 came by my apartment 3 hours later. Absolutle stunning! her english was'nt too hot but My spanish is a bit average so we worked it out. We just went to grab some food and hit the beach then back to the apartment. She was 20 years old, 5'9, green eyes, beautiful body and long black curly hair. Right up my alley, and sooo excellent in the bedroom total GFE, BBBJ and multiple positions into the evening. Around 10pm I sent her home because I told her I had to get some sleep and she had school in the morning but of Course I had other motives... :)
La Trippleterra
We asked some cabbies about some clubs that might be good on a Monday night and this cabbie took us to Trippleterra which is located in the Old City. Me and my two buddies walked in and were immediately mobbed by choosing chicas. There had to be about 30 chicas in there and only 6 dudes including us. There was a nice variety in there and maybe a notch below LDV but the dancing atmosphere was better and it wa more like a real club atmosphere. One of my dudes had his eyes set of a stunner she was a solid 10and went home immediately almost 5 minutes into talking to her...lol. Me and my other dude met these 2 chicas and we ordered Medellin Rum and Coke and we partied for another hour, dancing and chilling and talking, I was trying to scope some other honies out but my chica I was with in the club was'nt having it, my buddy was all over his chica and my cute chica was ready to go. We payed the 10 k to leave the place and We all hopped in the cab for a night of debauchery back at the Apartment.
Got back to the apartment and finished off a 12 pack of Aguila Cervez and took shoots of Medellin Rum. These Chicas were wide open now and I took my little spinner to the balcony for a nice session BBBJ on the balcony over lookin the ocean, CIM and a little doggystyle had me amped up and ready and my boy had his chick in the living room then we switched off and I banged his chica. I took my chica back to the room and had another lil session. She spent the night and I sent her home around 7am with 40K which is about 18 bucks US. Again with no complaints!
I love this country! This was just day 3 of the action 5 chicas and 3 days, not so bad, with MUCH more to follow... More to Kum! Stay tuned! Attached are a few pics of my apt in Boca Grande Beach, The Old City and the chicas from Tripleterra at the club with us. Peace!
I like what I read about Cartagena. (Chica/City wise). My question is a simple one. Of the two, which hotel is Chica friendly, the Hilton or Decameron? Plus, I hate Beach vendors bugging my ass, I hear that the Beach for the Hilton is better, no vendors. Is that true? If so, are there still plenty of local babes on the Hilton's beach, or just tourists?
Thanks to anyone who answers me.
Regards to all fellow mongers!
AcaHeat
The Decameron is not chica friendly and the beaches there are full of touts. The Hilton is chica friendly and their beach has fewer touts and very few local chicas.
the Hilton has security guards posted at the property edges to keep most touts and locals off the beach. There are still some approved jet ski and banana raft boats that will ask you if you want to buy a ride. Otherwise it is quiet here.
Does anyone know what the Hilton charges during high season? I was told $85 during low season.
Thanks for the Info Gentlemen.
Regards,
AcaHeat
Very well written bro, loved the details and pics, just need some chica pics lol!
I headed back to CTG 6/29 met some chica from amigos also, she is from BAQ, I only have one day to play before she meets me in CTG, but I will make the best of it.
Atl: I especially like the fact that you did not pay U.S. prices for third world pussy. Before I get the shit kicked out of me for the third world comment, I agree Colombain women are some of the finest in the world by far, but if the average Colombian makes $15 U.S. a day why pay your girl 10 times that?
Like I have been saying, a lot of respect, a little espanol and a lot of game goes a long way! Hell, I'd even say it goes farther then money for an overall satisfying experience!
Any of you first timers in CTG during 6/29 to 7/3 and need to be pointed in the right direction PM me I'll be happy to help!
Atl:You have to make the MOGER PILGRIMAGE to the pussy capital of the world, Thailand!
[QUOTE=Pussy Seeker II]What exactly is a CHICA FRIENDLY Hotel? A place where they will let you take a girl up to your room? They will charge you extra anyway, some places even expect you to pay a full night rate, or some places will let you do it for free?[/QUOTE]Hotel that does not charge any extra is a chica friendly hotel.
Guys,
been reading some stuff here that guys got problems to get chicas in hotels. being in cartagena you COULD rent an appartement in the Boca Grande(and Laguito)barrio (turist area). At the time i was there I paid about 15 US $ a day...completely with furniture and all the rest.(no phone) Even at night it's safe...and always party time starting on thursdays untill saturday. Sorry but on sunday even this is dead. Just walk in the many app. buildings and ASK if there are flats for rent.
Was there in octobre 2003 for 4 weeks had had a real good time. Cartagena is in general pretty 'safe" (for colombian standards)if you stick to the rules.
1) low profile
2) speak some spanish
3)don't flash cash $$$ arround in public
4) take a taxi after dusk.
5) don't visit nightclubs if you are DRUNK.you will get RIPPED OFF.
Avoid getsemani and the central city area after nightfall IF you are alone and NOT knowing what you are doing.
Some low budget hotels also let in girls. But the pain is that many of these also function as love motels.....;-)your chica will know were to find them.(or just ask any taxista/hotellobby guy) Many putas can be found in the Getsemani barrio.....but realy be carefull in this area.Don't go alone...and be sure NOT to be drunk.
Cartagena is one of the most pretty city in Colombia with a colonial heart and is a very romantic city. One realy bad thing is the assholes at the beach trying to sell you stuff...just IGNORE them...and DO NOT start to speak spanish with them.(then they will even borther you more)They are real "puta de hijos"...!!
cheers
Johan.
Hello Johan and other Colombia mongers,
I have mongered in Brazil lately, but have never been to Colombia.
If any of you guys have mongered in both places I would like to know if Colombia is a good deal with regards to garota quality and pricing versus mongering in Rio.
Based on the pictures I've seen posted here looks like Colombia has some really hot chicks.
Also, I would like to know where is the best and hottest mongering scene in Colombia.
Also need to know the relative street safety as compared to Rio.
Look forward to replies.
Many thanks.
Track Star
Several close friends have spent a lot of time in Rio, and I live in Cartagena. You get wilder sex in Rio, but it is sweeter in Colombia. The numbers are much greater in Rio, but how many can you do in a day? Prices in Colombia vary widely by city and venue. The range is US$17 to 100 per hour. I never ask for more than an hour. I usually pay US$30-40.
The better areas of Cartagena and Medellin are much more safe than Rio. In Cartagena I can walk alone at 3:00 am in Centro, Boca Grande and Laguito.
As far as P4P, Laguito(LDV and the beach) in Cartagena is probably the best. Medellin has some great street action-ask any cabbie. Some guys swear by Bogota. Cali is a bit dangerous for me. Until you really know what you are doing, confine yourself to the major cities and travel between them by air.
Johan,
You won't find any places worth staying at in BG or Laguito for US$15 per night now. Look at US$40 to 60 for the better places. You will get the best deal by shopping. Getsemane is not that dangerous, but you might want to cab between 10pm and 4am.
Gidday guy´s,
Tried to get into San Andres on a days notice but its fully booked over there.
Arrived last Tueday night, one night in Carta then of to Isla what´s its name !!!! anyway 2 hours boat trip away from Carta, not bad but not a patch on aussie islands ect, but it was good to see the Colombian version, the people on the island looked after us great ( my Paisa girlfreind and myself)
Arrived back to Carta on Friday with the flue !!! had to see the world famous LDV !!!! girls mostly 6 to 6.5s ( my score card is high!!) with a few 8s and one 9, my partner was the only 10 there and she was with me from Medellin and a non-pro, if you spend any lenght of time in Medellin and dont have a regular girlfriend who was not a pro then you must be fucked ugly !!!
All in all, Carta, not a bad place to spend a few days but wouldnt like to live there, give me Medellin anyday, but then again I´m biast, I´m a Paisa !!!
DEPORTIVA INDERPENDENTA MEDELLIN !!!!! RORHOR !!!
The Aussie
[QUOTE=Aussie Greg]Gidday guy´s,
Tried to get into San Andres on a days notice but its fully booked over there.
Arrived last Tueday night, one night in Carta then of to Isla what´s its name !!!! anyway 2 hours boat trip away from Carta, not bad but not a patch on aussie islands ect, but it was good to see the Colombian version, the people on the island looked after us great ( my Paisa girlfreind and myself)
Arrived back to Carta on Friday with the flue !!! had to see the world famous LDV !!!! girls mostly 6 to 6.5s ( my score card is high!!) with a few 8s and one 9, my partner was the only 10 there and she was with me from Medellin and a non-pro, if you spend any lenght of time in Medellin and dont have a regular girlfriend who was not a pro then you must be fucked ugly !!!
All in all, Carta, not a bad place to spend a few days but wouldnt like to live there, give me Medellin anyday, but then again I´m biast, I´m a Paisa !!!
DEPORTIVA INDERPENDENTA MEDELLIN !!!!! RORHOR !!!
The Aussie[/QUOTE]
Aussie,
I think you reffer to ISLAS DEL ROSARIO,and I must say you are starting to think like a PAISA already, LOL.
I might get to Medellin at the end of next month, not sure yet,and it would be fun if we could meet.If you are ever this close to Barranquilla give me a call:
5 378 4656, cell 315 735 1834.And lastly, " que viva EL DEPORTIVO INDEPENDIENTE MEDELLIN"
I thought I would correct your spelling LOL.
Cheers ,
Peter.
[QUOTE=Aussie Greg]Gidday guy´s,
if you spend any lenght of time in Medellin and dont have a regular girlfriend who was not a pro then you must be fucked ugly![/QUOTE]While I won't disagree that I'm "fucked ugly", have no money, no job, no social graces and have bad breath, I don't like the hassle that comes with a regular girlfriend.
Been there, done that. Give me a different girl every night.
I prefer MDE over CTG also. CTG is full of touts, tourists and bad taxistas. Not to mention the heat and humidity.
Maybe you hit LDV on an off night. My standards are very high and I've always seen multiple stunners there. Almost as good of quality as Mango's. Of course, every girl is a sure thing at LDV, it's a much longer shot at Mango's. But then again, I'm very ugly.
Hey ... glad you had fun in Cartagena!
I've seen Aussie's novia ... his Paisia ... one sweet, sexy, beautiful lady.
He's a lucky man!
Cheers!
NACIONAL de Medellin ... por siempre! Go verde!
Slum,
Im no oil painting either mate, yes its a longer shot a Mango´s pero its the best Ive seen anywhere in the world for non-pro´s all in one spot with the number´s ( maybe a close second to Moscow), I,ve always had luck their,
then again their is a lot of mafia girlfriends but if you pick the tables with only chicks then your pretty right (and safe !!)
I know what you mean by knowing all the girls are available, sometimes for a change I like the supermaket shopping to.
The touts have not been to bad here in Carta, I have read some pretty bad reports about them, I just say no gracias and dont give then the time of the day but then again a guy with a catchy phrase comes along and you carnt help but give him a few momments. Ive been all through India and Pakastan and the touts their are the best Ive seen, I have learnt to deal with them.
Ricker,
Verde !!!! please find somewhere else to stay next time, gracias !!!! How did your bro get on at the end !!!! Always great to have you Rick, your our third partner !! your here so many times.
Peter,
It´s not Isla del Rosario, the Isla we were on is further out, I´ll haft to ask my girlfriend.
Yes I´d like to meet you, I´m of to Australia soon for 2 weeks, takes me a week to go their and come back !! If I´m not en MDE then my partner Medellin Bob (Robert) would like to have a Medellin Run with you, he has a old girlfriend in Bara and has been their many times, Im sure he would show you our setup en MDE, our oficina number en MDE is 311 4900, opem from 9.00am to 5.30pm Mon to Sat.
Thanks for the spelling correction !!
Of to MDE tonight, Id like to come back to Carta with more time next time.
The Aussie
Just wanted to drop a word of thanks to all of the Cartagena mongers. All the outstanding information shared here convinced me to book a trip down. I have a nonstop flight on Avianca for $517 out of Miami. I have booked an apartment in the Playa Mar building thru Mery for $55. Does anyone have any information on this building? Can anyone recommend a dive shop? I will be in Cartagena July 9th thru the 16th. Please pm me if you would like to join me in the hunt. As a token of appreciation the taxi and first couple of rounds are on me.
Thanks again.
Hola amigos,
Please advise, what is the best recommended hotel in Cartagena? I'd prefer a good US chain hotel, but please let me know what my best option in Cartegena would be (of course, chica friendly). The Hilton looks too expensive.
Gracias mis amigos,
Y & R
P.S. I will RTFF for the rest I my questions, but I could use a little quick help for this matter. Also, what is the best way to fly into Cartagena without having to overnight somewhere? Thanks
Fly Avianca MIA-CTG on Wed. or Sun. It only flys two days per week.
Try the Hotel Charlotte [url]http://www.cartagenainfo.com/hotelcharlotte/english.htm[/url]. Forget about US chains.
[QUOTE=Tom 33]Fly Avianca MIA-CTG on Wed. or Sun. It only flys two days per week.
Try the Hotel Charlotte [url]http://www.cartagenainfo.com/hotelcharlotte/english.htm[/url]. Forget about US chains.[/QUOTE]
Thank you, Tom 33. I called the Hotel Charlotte and they quoted me a single rate of $65 p/night. Would it be advisable to go ahead and book it as a double vs. a single? I want to avoid being screwed with when I am bringing a chica back to my room.
This place sounds like a good option, unless you or anyone else has a better suggestion, this will be the one that I reserve at. Also, if anyone cares to recommend a decent hotel in Bogota for a one or two night stay, I would appreciate that as well (needs to be chica friendly, of course).
Gracias,
Y & R
YR,
Don't know for sure. When I'm in Medellin, I always book a double. If your Spanish is good enough, you could discuss it with them when you arrive. A friend who spends a lot of time in CTG always stays at the Charlotte.
[QUOTE=Tom 33]YR,
Don't know for sure. When I'm in Medellin, I always book a double. If your Spanish is good enough, you could discuss it with them when you arrive. A friend who spends a lot of time in CTG always stays at the Charlotte.[/QUOTE]
I'll probably check in to it just to be on the safe side. I don't have any problems communicating in Spanish, but I want to be clear of any problems before I get there, so I'll discuss that with them again before I go. Thanks again for your recommendation, señor.
Y & R
[QUOTE=Young & Restless]Hola amigos,
Please advise, what is the best recommended hotel in Cartagena? I'd prefer a good US chain hotel, but please let me know what my best option in Cartegena would be (of course, chica friendly). The Hilton looks too expensive.
Gracias mis amigos,
Y & R
P.S. I will RTFF for the rest I my questions, but I could use a little quick help for this matter. Also, what is the best way to fly into Cartagena without having to overnight somewhere? Thanks[/QUOTE]The Hilton is the only U.S. chain hotel. There used to be an Intercontinental Hotel, but it is now the Almirante (or Caribe?) hotel. There is a Sofitel hotel (European chain) in the Old City, but its rates are typically twice those of the Hilton. If you want to save money but be in a fairly nice place, you should consider, as mentioned previously, the Charlotte or an apartment.
[quote=young & restless]hola amigos,
please advise, what is the best recommended hotel in cartagena? i'd prefer a good us chain hotel, but please let me know what my best option in cartegena would be (of course, chica friendly). the hilton looks too expensive.
gracias mis amigos,
y & r
p.s. i will rtff for the rest i my questions, but i could use a little quick help for this matter. also, what is the best way to fly into cartagena without having to overnight somewhere? thanks[/quote]
i had a chance come across hotel charlotte (i was just checking out other options for the next time) and it's is nice is a nice quaint hotel right in the middle of boca grande on the main drag with free breakfest included in the rate of $65, with a nice pool and free use of their hi-speed computer while your a guest there and guest-friendly. it kind of has that "colonial look & feel" to the hotel. even though it's not directly on the beach it's only about a block away. i met the doorman there who's name is marlon who speaks really good english and can direct you to wherever you need to go and will find the best room available at that particular hotel for you, he's about 28 and also knows the non-pro nightlife scene as well.
regarding airlines with no night-time stop over you can also fly copa airlines from miami via panama city, i had a really good connecting flight from miami to panama city to ctg. i caught a really good deal of $412 roundtrip in may with taxes and that was with a 4 day stop over in panama city then 8 days in cartagena with costamar travel agency. you can contact the manager there his name is renzo chipocco and his number is 305-444-5012 or you can email him @ [email]r.chipocco@costamar.com[/email] he will hook you up!
part two of my trip is coming shortly... the grand finale!!! :)
[quote=atlantas finest]i had a chance come across hotel charlotte (i was just checking out other options for the next time) and it's is nice is a nice quaint hotel right in the middle of boca grande on the main drag with free breakfest included in the rate of $65, with a nice pool and free use of their hi-speed computer while your a guest there and guest-friendly. it kind of has that "colonial look & feel" to the hotel. even though it's not directly on the beach it's only about a block away.[/quote]
hi atlantas finest,
thanks for the info. this hotel sounds like the way to go and the price is right, so we'll see what happens. i am thinking about just staying the night in bogota on the way there and on the return, so i can get a small taste of that city as well. thanks again for your help.
I keep reading about the touts in Cartagena. How does the tout situation in Cartagena compare to Copa in Rio?
Thanks,
Y & R
suggestion :
Previously I would get irritated by them and say no moleste right away.
I have found the best way of dealing with the touts is to carry a portable CD player with headphones, wear sunglasses, and look the other way, ignoring them. Once you acknowledge them they will continue, even if you say NO. Usually then you must say NO MOLESTE in a rude tone of voice to get them off your trail.
Sometimes they still reply, ITS MY JOB or THIS IS NOT YOUR COUNTRY.
however it is my money and I have the last say.
Usually taxi drivers are the most rude because they will honk their horn at you when they see you walking along the sidewalk. They usually try to overcharge you in Laguito or Boca Grande, so ask the price before you get in the taxi and do not tip. It is not expected.
It is better to have the poverty, because the girls are alot cheaper, and also you can find a beauty on the streets renting herself for an hour.
This morning I found a 22 year old beauty, no kids, no stretch marks, sitting near the Hilton for 60,000 pesos for one hour. 9.5 rating for body, 9 for performance, 7 or 8 for face. Nice hard tits and ass. No attitdue, she knew exactly how to please. In the states it would be $400 for an hour and she would have her own website.
Ngp477,
This is the 2nd time you have given me excellent advice. Your suggestion about the headphones and sunglasses sounds like damn good idea to me. I was thinking about having a cheap t-shirt made that said "No hablo espanol y no tengo dinero" j/k. Thanks once again for your advice.
[QUOTE=Kiev Petr]The Hilton is the only U.S. chain hotel. There used to be an Intercontinental Hotel, but it is now the Almirante (or Caribe?) hotel. There is a Sofitel hotel (European chain) in the Old City, but its rates are typically twice those of the Hilton. If you want to save money but be in a fairly nice place, you should consider, as mentioned previously, the Charlotte or an apartment.[/QUOTE]
Hi Kiev Petr,
Thank you for your help. I am going to go with the Charlotte. The rooms look good enough as far as I'm concerned and the rate is really good. Thanks again for your info and reiterating this hotel.
[QUOTE=Ngp477]suggestion :
Previously I would get irritated by them and say no moleste right away.
I have found the best way of dealing with the touts is to carry a portable CD player with headphones, wear sunglasses, and look the other way, ignoring them. Once you acknowledge them they will continue, even if you say NO. Usually then you must say NO MOLESTE in a rude tone of voice to get them off your trail.
Sometimes they still reply, ITS MY JOB or THIS IS NOT YOUR COUNTRY.
however it is my money and I have the last say.
Usually taxi drivers are the most rude because they will honk their horn at you when they see you walking along the sidewalk. They usually try to overcharge you in Laguito or Boca Grande, so ask the price before you get in the taxi and do not tip. It is not expected.
It is better to have the poverty, because the girls are alot cheaper, and also you can find a beauty on the streets renting herself for an hour.
This morning I found a 22 year old beauty, no kids, no stretch marks, sitting near the Hilton for 60,000 pesos for one hour. 9.5 rating for body, 9 for performance, 7 or 8 for face. Nice hard tits and ass. No attitdue, she knew exactly how to please. In the states it would be $400 for an hour and she would have her own website.[/QUOTE]
Ngp477,
We have the same problems down here in Lima. I ususally give to the 80 year old women and will buy a piece of pizza or whatever else is convienient for a five year old girl. However If you are a teenage/20/30 girl with a child it ain't gonna happen,a boy/teenager/man you have to provide a service or entertain me. I was driving through Plaza Grau today and as I was trying to tell a youngster that I did not want my windshied washed for the 5th time today, out of the corner of my eye 3 16y/o boys were doing flips/handsprings and a full gainer across the intersection in front of me. Needless to say good street performers get my money every time as I consider them a tourist asset.
What goverments and NGO's should do is open up a branch of Barnum and Baily's circus school in every country of Latin America and let them entertain the tourists.
Actually the real reason I am responding to your post:
Two buddies of mine from N.Y.C went down to P.R. for a weekend with these two hookers they flew in from Vegas. They got them from their website (scarlettletter) or something. Anyway they get 300/hr or 3500 for a weekend.
After looking at the site, I am happy to be living in S.A. with a beautiful wife and hemming and hawing over wiether<sp> or not I should indulge in the occasional $10 piece.
Lima Busy
Please provide lists of recommended FS massage spots in Cartagena along with their open hours and prices.
Your reports will be appreciated and acted on during my forthcoming trip there.
1. the beach, then your apartment.
2. Calle 2 in Boca Grande, then your apartment.
3. Laguito street, then your apartment.
4. La Dolce Vita, 10:30 pm until 1 am, then your apartment.
5. Any girl wearing a bikini, carrying a cell phone, then your apartment.
cost of street girl is 35,000 pesos to 60,000 pesos. (US15-25) LDV girls are 100,000 to 150,000 toda la noces. ($35 - 65)
Hi guys,
I would like to know if the people that goes to Carthagena take medicine to protect against malaria?
[QUOTE=Lima Busy]
After looking at the site, I am happy to be living in S.A. with a beautiful wife and hemming and hawing over wiether<sp> or not I should indulge in the occasional $10 piece.
Lima Busy[/QUOTE]Lima Busy is lying. His wife is not beautiful.
Hi,
relax Volpone....there is NO Malaria in Cartagena.
Only in the jungle area.(but if i am correct you should NOT go there....!)...and even then it is NOT the worst form of malaria.
If you rub your skin with repellent and have long pants and long slieves you should be OK. Also a good thing is not to put on too much after shave in the evening.
HOWEVER......dengue might be an issue. (i have seen civil servants from the city spraying repellant during the day against the dengue muskito)
take care and don't get paranoid.
Johan.
[QUOTE=Volpone]Hi guys,
I would like to know if the people that goes to Carthagena take medicine to protect against malaria?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Volpone]Hi guys,
I would like to know if the people that goes to Carthagena take medicine to protect against malaria?[/QUOTE]
You could always check the CDC web site and see what they recommend, but I would advise against taking Larium or any other Malaria prophylactics due to the possibility of bad side effects. Larium and other malaria prophylactics do not prevent malaria; they only lessen the effects of the condition, should you contract it.
Unless you plan on going into the jungle, I personally think it would be a waste of your money and if you do plan on going into the jungle, I would be worried about other things besides malaria.
Good luck,
Y & R
Actually the CDC recommends that you take malaria meds while visiting Cartagena. However, there is no danger of malaria in the city. I live in CTG and do not take malaria meds. If you plan to go out into the wild areas, you should take the meds.
Since you live in Cartagena, please give me a rundown on FS massage parlors.
Thank you,
Yellow Fever shot is suggested for aklmost all of Carib coast, but for the guys who never leave the city (the majority) TOTALLY unnecessary IMHO.
Ngp has it right on. I have never seen a massage parlor in CTG. Casas are the closest thing. They have back rooms for play or you can take-out(for a fee to the house). Pleyboy is about the best, but it is too pricey for me. Others open and close with regularity. Ask any cabbie. I haven't been to a casa in over two years.
Does anyone know if there is a good map of Cartagena available such as the one that Moondog put together for BsAs? I found a decent one, but of course there are not any P4P places marked on the map.
I would appreciate it if someone would recommend one to me that is something similar to Moondog’s BsAs maps. Here’s the link to the one that I found, if anyone is interested (it’s decent, but no P4P):
[url]http://www.cartagenatravelguide.com/cartagena_map2.html[/url]
See my previous post and Ngp's. All you really need is LDV, the street and the beach.
Hi Tom 33,
I have added that info to my notes. Doesn't sound like a map is necessary for Cartagena, otherwise there would be one floating around by now. Thanks again for your help, senor.
What about street walkers in Cartagena?
Young and Restless,
I also always try to find a good map before heading to any new destination. Cartagena was a challenge to find anything worthwhile. I did pick up a small guidebook from Ullysses Due South on Cartagena. It has several excellent maps of Boca Grande, Laguito, and the walled city. LDV is not on the Laquito map, but Hotel Las Velas is which I understand is across the street. I ordered mine from Amazon for $10. It also has excellent descriptions of all the cultural sights, beaches, and restaurants. I will be in Cartagena July 9th thru the 16th if any one wants to hook up.
Thanks
[url]http://www.cartagenainfo.net/[/url]
What about street walkers? Hay muchas. Just smile and say "Hola." They will let you know if they want to play. Remember, however, that you must approach them. The police take a dim view of open solicitation. The majority of tourists are Colombian families.
[QUOTE=Captain44]Young and Restless,
I also always try to find a good map before heading to any new destination. Cartagena was a challenge to find anything worthwhile. I did pick up a small guidebook from Ullysses Due South on Cartagena. It has several excellent maps of Boca Grande, Laguito, and the walled city. LDV is not on the Laquito map, but Hotel Las Velas is which I understand is across the street. I ordered mine from Amazon for $10. It also has excellent descriptions of all the cultural sights, beaches, and restaurants. I will be in Cartagena July 9th thru the 16th if any one wants to hook up.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Hi Captain44,
Just now saw your post... I'll look into the guide you mentioned. I bought a general South America Guide put out by Insight Guides and when it comes to Colombia, it is everything but insightful. They have designated 20 out of 352 pages for Colombia. Out of those 20 pages on Colombia, an entire 2 ½ pages are about Cartagena.
I knew that it wouldn’t be too hard to find, but thanks for giving me an idea about where LDV is located. I’m pretty sure that I’ll be spending quite a bit of my time there (hehehe).
Is this going to be your first time in Cartagena? Look forward to reading how your trip goes.
Later,
Y & R
Hola, everyone!
I am planning on making a trip to Colombia in early September. I am really interested in seeing Medellin, but I do plan to make a side trip to Cartagena. I gather that the action in Medellin is kinda slow on Sundays, so I am thinking of leaving for Cartagena on a Sunday, and maybe stay there until Tuesday or Wednesday. How is the action in Cartagena from Sunday to Tuesday or Wednesday? Specifically, I am interested in visiting the famous LDV. And maybe hunt around in the beach.
Gracias.
Sunday night is usually a good night. Mondays are a little slower, but still ok. Then it starts to pick up again on Tuesday. The beach is usually dead during the week.
Ask any taxi to take you to LDV.
A few observations from a trip in June to Cartagena --
1. Sofitel Santa Clara is not a good place for a monger. The price is ridiculous -- $300 per night with taxes included. While the service is impeccable, the equal of any I've experienced anywhere, the price is out of whack for Colombia. Also there's a nasty walk of shame. I only spent one night there.
2. Others have recommended getting an apartment from Mery Salence, with Torre Centauro properties(tel. 52 57 5 655 0384; email: [email]oficerna@yahoo.com[/email]). She doesn't just lease at Torre Centauro properties, but has a number of up market apartments owned mostly by gringos, I think. I came at the last minute (thus the room at Sofitel first night) and she managed to get me a couple of nice apartments during my stay. Another advantage -- if something goes wrong, she's going to help you out. She a very nice, helpful person.
3. La Dolce Vita is fantastic. Stay there a while and you're going to come across some stunners. And GFE is the rule instead of the exception. I came across one, Diana, that not only was about an 8-1/2, a morena Paris Hilton look alike, but also I couldn't stop her from cooking and cleaning my clothes. Right now 150,000 pesos seems to be what women at LDV want, but they'll take less.
Has anyone ever checked out 2 girls for all night from here? Just wondering if the girls would tolerate eachother and do lesbian action or would they get jealous of the other one?
Yes, in fact I just spend 7 days in Cartagena mongering with 4 girls from LDV, 3 non pros from La Castellana mall, and 1 girl from Cafe Del Mar. As far as a three some. It is actually quite common, than you might think. It is up to you, to make them feel comfortable. How can you make them feel comfortable? LDV girls work in packs. They are partnered with one other room mate or 3-4 girls that are there on vacations. Quote, unquote. So, as long as you are up to their standards on looks, and the comfort level is high. They will certainly be ok with that. For the people that are paying $120k and higher, please stop doing so. I don´t know what your financial situation is, that is great if you can afford it, as I can. But, I never pay anything over than $80k for an all nighter. In fact, I have taught 2 other mongers than went with me on this trip, that never ever discuss price when you are with a pay for play girl. You have to understand that the average LDV girl, from her previous experience, if she had a real job, would make 350k colombian pesos a month. You control the transaction. Right now, there are more women than men, anytime any of these girls, discuss price, I am brutally honest with them, that if they mention money again, they are out of here. Please do not over pay. Check the non pro action, all over the city, venture out of Boca Grande, El Laguito, and El Centro. Even at El Centro, walk down the streets in Santa Teresa, San Diego. Check Barrio Chile, Barrio Paraguay, El Castellan. university girls abound, and they are right for the pìcking. This is in Cartagena. Imagine the other cities in Colombia. ie (Medellin, Cali, Perreira, Armenia, Bucaramanga, Villavicensio, Bogota) Oh, I am in Medellin right now. just having a blast as usual. I wanted to give my 2 cents, as this site, has provided some great insights on our mongering profession. It has made my vision clear, on what expectations is all about. I have been visiting Colombia since 2002, when I was 27. I can't even imagine, what it would feel like when I turn 50. Have fun guys, and please. Do not over pay.
There are a high number of bis and lezbos in LDV. Nearly all are into duplas(2 chicas and one guy). Some, however, will not do lezbo. Ask first. The most important thing about lining things up is to choose one chica. Then ask her to choose the second one. If they are not good friends, you may have problems.
Anyone have contact info for Eddie (Marie's ex), I rented an apt. from him last year and lost the info.I believe he has(d) a webpage.
Thank-you in advance.
I try to be positive in my reports, if I get negative, then it may be time to move on.
Last night I went to La Dolce Vita and found out that the gringos are charged alot more for drinks than the ladies. Of course we get screwed on drink prices in the states and they have ladies night when the girls drink for free also, but here was the facts:
Bottle of water I bought for a girl, 5,000 pesos. In store, 500 pesos.
Coca Cola I bought for myself 4,000 pesos. In store 800 pesos. They took my bottle away half full when I went to talk to a few girls across the room.
Aguila light for me 8,000 pesos.
Girl next to me bought Aguila light, I offered to pay after she got it from the mesoro, 5000 pesos. (Her beer was 3000 pesos cheaper because she was female)
Red Bull I bought for a girl, Anna Marie, 19,000 pesos. This is the big girl from Medellin with silicon tities, very self centered. Took her out once but it was a disappointment. Did not realize it was her again until after I bought her the 19,000 pesos Red Bull which she promptly passed around with her girlfriends and ignored me.
As you can guess, buy the time it was time to take a girl home for the night, I looked in my wallet and had only 100,000 pesos left.
And some of you guys say only pay 80,000 pesos for toda la noce? I asked 5 or 6 to come with me for 100,000 pesos and got laughed at. I felt insulted. I told one girl who was doable, an 8, that I would even give her another 50,000 in the morning total would be 150,000 pesos and she demanded that I go to an automatice cajera first and pay up front.
NOW You say I must be ugly, fat and old. I am average looks, 230 pounds on a 5´9¨frame and look 40 though I am 49, Last month I had much better luck at LDV and was disappointed last night.
Maybe it is because I am getting picky and have done 5 or 10 of the girls and am still looking for a girl who gets me aroused without Viagra.
Anyway it was a disappointment. I took one out for 150,000 TLÑ but she started talking about rules the minute we got in the door, so I told her forget it. This is the best thing to do. A red flag. So then she asked for taxi money. I said you can walk, its only 3 blocks and we walked here. SEE MY POINT. Once you find an argumentative *****, get rid of her.
So I went back to LDV and settled for a flat chested girl who gave me a BBBJ and stayed until I dismissed her at 3:30 am. Paid 100,000 pesos.
Sorry I was not impressed last night by LDV.
The prices, the girls attitudes, and the result. Too much money and too little honey.
[QUOTE=Razor]I try to be positive in my reports, if I get negative, then it may be time to move on.
Last night I went to La Dolce Vita and found out that the gringos are charged alot more for drinks than the ladies. Of course we get screwed on drink prices in the states and they have ladies night when the girls drink for free also, but here was the facts:
Bottle of water I bought for a girl, 5,000 pesos. In store, 500 pesos.
Coca Cola I bought for myself 4,000 pesos. In store 800 pesos. They took my bottle away half full when I went to talk to a few girls across the room.
Aguila light for me 8,000 pesos.
Girl next to me bought Aguila light, I offered to pay after she got it from the mesoro, 5000 pesos. (Her beer was 3000 pesos cheaper because she was female)
Red Bull I bought for a girl, Anna Marie, 19,000 pesos. This is the big girl from Medellin with silicon tities, very self centered. Took her out once but it was a disappointment. Did not realize it was her again until after I bought her the 19,000 pesos Red Bull which she promptly passed around with her girlfriends and ignored me.
As you can guess, buy the time it was time to take a girl home for the night, I looked in my wallet and had only 100,000 pesos left.
And some of you guys say only pay 80,000 pesos for toda la noce? I asked 5 or 6 to come with me for 100,000 pesos and got laughed at. I felt insulted. I told one girl who was doable, an 8, that I would even give her another 50,000 in the morning total would be 150,000 pesos and she demanded that I go to an automatice cajera first and pay up front.
NOW You say I must be ugly, fat and old. I am average looks, 230 pounds on a 5´9¨frame and look 40 though I am 49, Last month I had much better luck at LDV and was disappointed last night.
Maybe it is because I am getting picky and have done 5 or 10 of the girls and am still looking for a girl who gets me aroused without Viagra.
Anyway it was a disappointment. I took one out for 150,000 TLÑ but she started talking about rules the minute we got in the door, so I told her forget it. This is the best thing to do. A red flag. So then she asked for taxi money. I said you can walk, its only 3 blocks and we walked here. SEE MY POINT. Once you find an argumentative *****, get rid of her.
So I went back to LDV and settled for a flat chested girl who gave me a BBBJ and stayed until I dismissed her at 3:30 am. Paid 100,000 pesos.
Sorry I was not impressed last night by LDV.
The prices, the girls attitudes, and the result. Too much money and too little honey.[/QUOTE]
Razor,
Thank you for your report on LDV, but have you gone to any of the casas like Casa de Munecas, Pleyboy Club, Casa de Marino or the Manila House? Also, what about some of the clubs like Tu Candela and La Escollera?
Thanks,
Y & R
I was once at Tu Candela and only for a short time. It was a Saturday night late and one of the girls from LDV wanted to go dancing there. I went with her. When she wanted 200,000 pesos for TLÑ I walked out on her and left her there. End of discussion. I do not know about the availability of girls there.
The taxi driver took me to another club in el centro but I got tired of the 200,000 pesos routine and went home alone that night.
Sometimes I just get tired of negotiating and walk out on the girls in frustration.
Once I went to a casa that is immediately behind Pleyboy Club because it was around noon and Pleyboys was closed. I paid for a girl for 24 hours and after the first mediocre bang she tried to tell me that I had to pay her money also, that the money I paid the club did not go to her. Out the door she went. I am tired of that crap and do not negotiate with terrorists either.
Please note my handle is NGP477 and I am at a computer terminal in El Conquistador. Apparently the computer is locked open on Razor´s login and won´t log out.
[QUOTE=Razor]Last night I went to La Dolce Vita and found out that the gringos are charged alot more for drinks than the ladies."
I think this is a very reasonable business practice. There's only one reason to go to LDV - to pick up a pro. The girls are not employees of LDV, but they do bring in customers who in turn generate revenue for the club. Hey they have to pay rent, utilities, etc.
So it makes sense to give the girls a discount. That will entice them to show up and stay longer, especially on slow nights. As we all know things run in cycles. I have no problem with the pricing structure.
"And some of you guys say only pay 80,000 pesos for toda la noce? I asked 5 or 6 to come with me for 100,000 pesos and got laughed at. I felt insulted."
I don't think guys are getting TLN for 80k unless it's really slow. It's closer to 150k. If 5 girls laughed at your offer, that was probably a good indication that it was a seller's market that night. You shouldn't feel insulted.
"I told one girl who was doable, an 8, that I would even give her another 50,000 in the morning total would be 150,000 pesos and she demanded that I go to an automatice cajera first and pay up front."
Sounds like you let her know you were short - I'm sure the girl has been stiffed before - she sensed a possible problem and tried to make sure she wasn't going to be on the short end of the deal.
"I am average looks, 230 pounds on a 5´9¨frame and look 40 though I am 49"
Well, that speaks for itself. Suffice to say the girls are viewing this strictly as a business transaction.
"Last month I had much better luck at LDV and was disappointed last night."
It's cyclical. The girls come and go. The market bears what the market bears. Lots of girls, few customers, price goes down. And vice-versa. Plus there are individual variables. Maybe her rent is due tomorrow. Maybe her sugar-daddy just sent her another wire-transfer. All of this affects price in addition to suppy and demand.
For what it's worth, I've been hobbying for a few years, lately a lot in Medellin and a few times in Cartagena. I never bring up money and if they throw out a stupid figure I just smile and say sorry, not tonight. No reason to get all offended. This lets them know you know what the right price is and there's a great chance she come back with a more reasonable figure.
There's no reason to take any of this personally - just remember - at LDV - it's strictly business.
Avoid Eddie Salence like the plague. Mery is very good, but Eddie will shove it up your ass without vaseline.
NGP-I have been paying 5000 pesos for water for over a year at LDV. They do have to make a profit. There is no salida, and nothing says you have to buy anything for any chica or for you. Aldo, the manager, also buys drinks for the chicas but will never buy one for you. I like the fact that he takes care of them. It makes for a better selection.
I'm fat and old(57)-ugly too- but don't have too many problems. I never want more than an hour and offer 100K in LDV. Some chicas have asked for more. I politely tell them "no gracias" and move on. In most cases I end up getting them for the 100K sooner or later. They have every right to charge as much as they want. I will not pay more than 100K. Of course I live in CTG more than half the year and own an apartment in Laguito. I don't know them all, but most of them know me. I have had some bad experiences but not many. I like to choose amigas of chicas I know-much less chance of a clinker.
I have better luck meeting chicas in restaurants and on the street. I'm not big on how little I can pay, but I have paid as little as 50K for street and beach chicas. You can find stuff that you don't have to directly pay for, but there is no such thing as free pussy. I prefer to pay directly.
Y&R-La Escollera was torn down a year ago. Tu Candelas can be fun. I don't much care for the casas, but Pleyboy is the best and most expensive.
I'm fat and old(57)-ugly too- but don't have too many problems.
Tom don't be so hard on yourself. You live a life that 99.9% of the posters here can only dream about and fantasize. I have seen your pictures that you don't post here and I can't blame you. In many years of mongering and playing the game you have an archive that tops all on every board there is. Remember I still owe you a cup of coffee from that day at your apartment.
[quote=beavis]i'm fat and old(57)-ugly too- but don't have too many problems.
tom don't be so hard on yourself. you live a life that 99.9% of the posters here can only dream about and fantasize. i have seen your pictures that you don't post here and i can't blame you. in many years of mongering and playing the game you have an archive that tops all on every board there is. remember i still owe you a cup of coffee from that day at your apartment.[/quote]
gotta agree with beavis… i haven’t even made it to cartagena, but you can go ahead and count me in as one of those envious guys. i really didn’t detect any sour grapes in tom 33’s post, but with his set-up in ctg, i wouldn’t expect to.
btw beavis, nice to see you’re still alive! i guess the days of your nuevo laredo reports are long gone. man, i can’t tell you how many times your reports have cracked me up.
take it easy,
y & r
[QUOTE=Ngp477]Has anyone ever checked out 2 girls for all night from here? Just wondering if the girls would tolerate eachother and do lesbian action or would they get jealous of the other one?[/QUOTE]
NGP477,
I had a 3 some in May when I was out in CTG with 2 chicas from LDV and IT WAS AWESOME, SPECTACULAR, SPLENDID and my 1st one :). It was a 3am till the sun came up affair that was sooo Lovely, I'm getting smiles just thinkin abotu it now, I know I've been awhile but the Part II for my report is coming very soon, just been hella busy and planning my next return exursion to Dominican Republic for a quick weekend in 2 weeks and Puerto Rico for Labor Day Weekend... I will detail it within the next 2 days along with my last 4-5 days in CTG in late May!
Yes Y and R I am now married to a Colombiana and enjoying life the most I ever have. I had a lot of fun playing the game but got tired of all of the lies and the BS.
I met Tom while I was in Cartagena and can vouch for the fact that he lives the ultimate life. He has a different roomate every night and each one looks like something from a latin playboy magazine. He has the ultimate taste in women and has proof to back up his tastes. A super guy living a life superior to any king. On top of that he makes good coffee.
Tom,
I used Mery 4 months ago and she pulled a apartment switch on me and my mate, thus we ended up in a hotel for 2 nights. Last yr I used Eddie twice with no problems whatsoever, but I have lost all contact info. Is there anyone else you recommend, as I will never use Mery again.
try Juan Ventura. I rented a 2 BR from him for $75 a night, with a buddy of mine. I had a very good experience with him.
I have had mixed feelings about renting from Mery, but overall she seems ok from me.
I may buy an apartment in Cart and would probably use Mery to rent it out.
is the guy. He sold my apartment to me, bought all the furniture, oversaw the remodeling, and rents it out when I'm not there. He has become a very good friend. You can contact him at [url]http://www.zepelion.com/apartamentos/index.htm[/url].
I´ve used Mery for years without a problem. In fact, she´s gone out of her way to help me on occasion. I can´t comment by experience on Juan, but I´ve heard from many that he is a stand-up guy. He´s in Spain at the moment, though.
I trust her more than ANYBODY in Colombia. Juan has a decent reputation too. Stay away from Eddie like the plague. $75 for a 2 Bedroom is Overpriced (except at New Year's, Semana Santa or El Reinado).
Mery arranged my appartment last year and was totally friendly and efficient. I´ll be returning to CTG and will definitely use her again.
Only his second post on WSG and he rips Mery and lauds Eddie. I know NOBODY who has ANYTHING good to say about that Belgian . . . . . (NOT writing what I think of him so as to avoid violating WSG's policy prohibiting personal attacks).
Do business with Eddie at your peril. Caveat emptor (buyer beware!)
[QUOTE=Beavis]I'm fat and old(57)-ugly too- but don't have too many problems.
Tom don't be so hard on yourself. You live a life that 99.9% of the posters here can only dream about and fantasize. I have seen your pictures that you don't post here and I can't blame you. In many years of mongering and playing the game you have an archive that tops all on every board there is. Remember I still owe you a cup of coffee from that day at your apartment.[/QUOTE]Beavis, were you thinking of me when you left that .1% of posters open. Glad to see your marriage is going well. We can all be jealous of that. stay well.
Thanks for the info Tom.
Having read the posts as far back as a year ago, it seems that the consensus is staying at an apartment as opposed to a hotel. However, the apartment finding and booking agents seem to come and go, and the opinions about them vary. So, since I am taking a trip to CTG in another 10 days, any suggestions as to an agent (who is reliable and as importantly still around), apartment building, area, etc. would be appreciated. Reports to follow.
Thanks.
Digits
Just booked another apt with Mery, she is very nice and professional. This will be my 8th trip to Colombia. Never hurts to talk or send her a email (no obligation). If anyone is down there between the 7th - 21 maybe we can grab a few drinks & chicas.
Otown
Mery contact info: Mery Salence
Cartagena's finest rentals
email: [email]oficerna@yahoo.com[/email]
Juan Ventura. All his apartments are good and in the right area(Laguito).
Tom 33,
Thanks for the reply. I actually tried that link. But once in (and it does not show the thumbnails), it gives me errors and forbidden prompts when I try to open the links or pictures. Is it just me or is there something wrong with his site?
Digits
I just clicked on the link in 842 to get to the site. Everything works fine for me.
Tom 33,
It must have been my firewall settings. I tried a different computer earlier and it worked fine. Thanks.
Otown 51,
Thanks for the info.
I dealt with Juan Ventura for my trip this past March, everything went fine, he appears to be a good guy, i'd definitely call him again for my next trip. The Rabbit
Hey Fantasy glad to see you are still around. I just got home tonight.
I couldn't copy the map, but get a good map of Colombia and look just South of cartagena for San Onofre, the beach town in Sucre state (the next state past Bolivar-where Cartagena is located). I've met several chicas in Cartagena from that area (and Monteria, Lorica and other towns a bit further South).
The point is that while you are safe in Cartagena itself, leaving the city you also leave the security of the protective cocoon surrounding Colombia's tourism cash cow.
Colombia Unearthing Plight of Its 'Disappeared'
By JUAN FORERO
Published: August 10, 2005
SAN ONOFRE, Colombia - In one of the most horrific chapters of Colombia's long civil conflict, investigators are unearthing scores of bodies from secret graves dotting this humid cattle-grazing region near the Caribbean, the victims of right-wing paramilitary groups now benefiting from generous concessions for pledging to disarm.
Relatives of the missing in the Alto Julio district of San Onofre. Foreground, Maruja del Carmen Pestana and Apolina Julio Julio. Standing against wall, from left: Rosa Campo, Belarmina Torres and Hermenijirda Julio.
With dozens of people coming forward in recent months to complain of missing relatives, government and military officials now estimate that hundreds of poor farmers may have been killed and secretly buried in a terror campaign that began in the late 1990's.
The paramilitary groups, they say, kidnapped and killed their victims to seize land and in some cases weed out supporters of the Marxist guerrillas who have been fighting the government since the 1960's.
For years, fear kept the crimes hidden. But with the arrival this year of a new military commander who has secured the region, families finally began speaking out, despite lingering dangers that cost the life of one whistleblower earlier this year.
So far, 72 bodies have been recovered from El Palmar, a vast farm outside San Onofre that was used as a local base by the paramilitary forces, whose militias control several coastal states.
From the dark, moist earth, the authorities have also uncovered bodies in several other villages and are working to locate graves in five other states, said Elba Beatriz Silva, coordinator of the attorney general's human rights office, which is overseeing a gradual process of exhumations that may expand even further.
"A lot of people here have disappeared - sons, fathers, mothers, brothers," said Iván Wilches, 22, whose brother disappeared. "Every day there were people killed. They would pull them out of houses, breaking down doors. They would all wind up dead."
The discoveries have highlighted a brutal but overlooked component of Colombia's war - the disappearances of more than 3,500 people in recent years - and raised fresh questions about whether there will ever be justice for the killings.
The authorities say they have arrested 11 paramilitary fighters from the area who face criminal charges. But the two suspected masterminds, according to local people and government authorities, are benefiting from a new Justice and Peace Law that offers them leniency in exchange for disarming.
The two commanders- Edward Cobos and his lieutenant, Rodrigo Mercado Pelufo, who ran the local 600-member militia - are ensconced in a government-run safe haven for 50 paramilitary commanders and could serve sentences as short as two years.
They and other militia members are not obliged to provide details of their crimes. If the authorities do press charges, the law gives them only 60 days to build cases, something that human rights groups say will be nearly impossible.
The government, which has tried and failed for years to negotiate an end to the conflict with the guerrillas, says the new law is needed to demobilize some 15,000 paramilitary fighters throughout the country who have taken up arms in recent years, adding to the violence.
The law has ignited fierce objections from those who fear that it will lead to a whitewash of some of the worst atrocities of a 41-year civil conflict in which 200,000 people have died. Until now, most notice was given to massacres and the assassination of politicians. But little attention has been paid to the what is known as the "disappearing" of people, something more commonly associated with other Latin American conflicts, from El Salvador to Brazil to Argentina in past decades, when it was used mostly by military governments wanting to silence adversaries and sow fear among civilians.
Since the 1990's, the tactic has been used with increasing frequency in Colombia, too. The Colombian Commission of Jurists says that 3,588 people vanished in this country from 1996 to 2004. The United Nations Working Group on Enforced or Involuntary Disappearances, which visited Colombia in July, has investigated nearly 1,200 cases, including those in San Onofre.
Published: August 10, 2005
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Many of the killings here are attributed to a paramilitary unit calling itself the Heroes of the María Mountains, which the two commanders ran. The attorney general's office says that the group was engaged mostly in drug trafficking and corrupting local officials and that the killings helped it seize poor farmers' land and control cocaine trafficking corridors to the Caribbean.
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Officials say the paramilitary groups also took aim at those they accused of aiding the rebels, the few who dared complain, small-time criminals and even their own fighters who fell out of favor.
"They were taken to that farm, where they were given an absurd sentence, not even a trial, since they were already condemned, and they were then killed in the most horrific of ways," said Ms. Silva, of the attorney general's human rights office.
Because the local authorities and rogue military officers were suspected of working with the militias, for years almost no one in the area said a word in protest, said families who have in recent weeks told the authorities about missing relatives.
"Everyone knew about this, but no one said anything, because if you did they'd come at 3 or 4 in the morning and take you away," said Lorenza Cárdenas, 60, the mother of José Luis Olivo, who disappeared two years ago and is believed to be buried somewhere nearby. "Here, if you talked, you died."
The fear began to dissipate this year only after a hard-charging marine colonel, Rafael Colón, was given command of the local marine base, residents said. Rooting out paramilitary forces as zealously as they did Marxist rebels, the marines instilled a sense of order.
That prompted one family, the Verbels, to gather others in town who knew about the graves to come forward. "Here, everyone knew about the graves, and we reported them," said Hermes Verbel, 43, one of eight brothers who organized the villagers. "Everyone knew how the paramilitaries took land, took people's cattle."
For their daring, the Verbel family paid a high price: the killing of one of the brothers, Guillermo, 52, in January. But by then the death only energized villagers. More came forward from neighborhoods like Alto Julio in San Onofre, where nearly every family in the ramshackle barrio can speak of a relative who has disappeared.
Iván Wilches's brother, Mauricio, 16, was snatched off the street a year ago. Fidencio Berrio, 67, recalled that his son, Andrés, 42, went out to make a phone call in 2002 and never came back.
Maruja del Carmen Pestana lost two sons, and Hermenijirda Julio said her son, Jairo Luis Alta Miranda, was grabbed by gunmen from the local bullfighting ring in 2003.
"We don't know where our loved ones are," said Mariela Medina, whose father, José Torres, 60, worked on El Palmar and disappeared in 1997. "We know they were taken, we know they are dead, but we don't know anything more."
For now, the authorities are searching for graves with the help of the families of the victims and informants like Feliciano Yepes, a former paramilitary commander now in prison. He has led investigators to one grave after another.
"There are approximately 500 people buried on that farm," Mr. Yepes said, according to a government deposition, "among them delinquents, farmers who did not collaborate and also paramilitaries."
Still the families of the missing continue to arrive and make their claims in the small local command post of the attorney general's office, providing clerks with details about the victims and identifying features. So far, only two bodies have been positively identified, though DNA samples have been taken from 46 villagers so they can be compared with those of the skeletal remains.
"We all want this so much," Ms. Cárdenas said. "A mother feels the pain, and all mothers wonder what happened to their son, where they are."
Just outside San Onofre, El Palmar ranch is now peaceful and still. Orlando Pascua, 33, one of the farmers working there, led visitors to the stables, where the militias have dug deep holes. The boot of one victim had been tossed to the side. Several hundred feet away, the militias had buried more people under a tree.
Mr. Pascua said that he and the other farmers were trying to forget what happened, but that it was not easy. "People say they did so much damage," he said. "When you were brought here, you didn't get out."
Oh man. With such a bloody history, you really have to reconsider Colombia as a destination. It really sounds like things could turn ugly at a moment's notice and if you're caught in it, who knows what could happen? Esp if you're a foreigner too.
Just imagine if you're held for ransom - your job could disappear while you're held captive, months could pass. Do you seriously think that the State dept gives a crap about one lone american going where he shouldn't have? It's Colombia, fer crying out loud.
Thailand is way safer, plus the food is fantastic. Plus the choices are absolutely amazing. If you're bored, there's always Philipines. Or Indonesia.
Just returned from my 1st CTG trip. I've made many trips to Fidel's paradise island, but have been searching for a new venue since the change to the CUC. That 18% surcharge on the USD on top of all the other bullshit (transiting through the Bahamas and sweating US Customs upon returning) is forcing me to look for new hunting grounds. Wake up Fidel!!!
I had one non-pro who I met online prior to the trip and several pros /semi-pros from the beach in Laguito, on the street in Bocagrande & Centro and of course in LDV and Triplaterra. The most I paid was 100k for a hot little spinner from Triplaterra (very enthusiastic!) and as little as 40k for an afternoon delight with a beach chica. All in all I was impressed with the quality and selection.
After I booted my internet girl who's period "vino temprano", I met one chica in Mr. Babilla's my first free night out. I thought she had GFE potential, cute and she and her friend weren't even hitting me or my buddy up for drinks. She dragged me to Giro Matto for an hour where she was grinding on me and making out. She came home with me but asked for 150k prior to any sex. I tossed her out on her ass and went to sleep alone. She was down to 80k as I closed the door on her but it was late, I was drunk and if I wanted a puta I knew where to find one. Also, I never pay before sex. And I thought she liked me! LOL! Oh well, live and learn!
I thoroughly enjoyed my time in CTG, but was a little disappointed in my inability to find any non-pro action. Now I don't mind paying when I have to, but I definitely prefer the GFE route when possible -- mas economico y mas intimo tambien! I'm in good shape and speak adequate spanish. Can anybody recommend any areas off the beaten path in CTG that aren't quite so lleno de putas? I heard about a place called Green Moon & another called Carumba. Has anybody been there or elswhere outside of the Laguito / Centro areas?
Thanks
Haha my friend..my part II of the CTG is coming soon and I have the other side of CTG covered!!! All the Non-Pro clubs where it is'nt the stuck up chicks but down home cool chicks you can get @ with a little bit of Spanish & Game...This is the side of town that Gringos DO NOT Frequent but it's safe... Be bac in a second...
Surfer,
Thanks for the article, good to know that some are concerned enough to enlighten us to the risk. FYI, the included map shows just how close the Mass Grave site, in San Onofre, is to Cartagena. Otherwise, global map is just a good resource.
[url]http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?client=public&X=-8450000&Y=1000000&width=500&height=300&gride=&gridn=&srec=0&coordsys=mercator&db=w3&addr1=&addr2=&addr3=&pc=&advanced=&local=&localinfosel=&kw=&inmap=&table=&ovtype=&zm=0&scale=2000000&up.x=189&up.y=7[/url]
Ez
Several girls I've met come from that a way (like Monteria, Sincelejo etc). But just because THEY can pass without incident (they are DIRT POOR!) does NOT mean than you or I would be wise to pass through areas where the guerillas are quite active.
GringoLoco: You are wise indeed. I can help, but you must PM me as I would never post such things here.
[QUOTE=Gringo Loco]
I heard about a place called Green Moon & another called Carumba. Has anybody been there or elswhere outside of the Laguito / Centro areas?
Thanks[/QUOTE]I have been to Green Moon. More of an local club that plays urban contemporary music (hip hop, reggae, reggaeton). You would be hard pressed to see another gringo in there. If you happen to be caucasian, you will stand out. However, that wont prevent you from having a good time if you can dance and enjoy the music.
I wouldnt call it a puta club, just a place locals go to have a good time. If you have some spanish language skills, you can score there.
I will be off to CTG in four days… This will be my first trip there and I cannot wait. I have done the RTFF thing going back about 18 months and I have to admit most of my questions have been answered and other folks on this thread an forum have also been very helpful and answered many questions. Only a few remain and I would appreciate any feedback on these. Here they go:
- How far is the Hilton from LDV and the Pleyboy club? Should I take a cab or can I just walk?
- No mention on this thread about the availability of performance enhancing vitamins V and C! Can they be bought at the pharmacy without prescription? Where could one get them otherwise in CTG?
- Is there a decent street map of Cartagena anywhere on-line? Better yet one with all the important places marked on it (like the ones you can find for Bangkok, BA, etc.). I haven’t been able to find one (even without the aforementioned markings :-)) at bookstores or libraries.
- I arrive at CTG at around 11 pm. Is it safe to get a taxi to the Hilton at that time or am I better off arranging for a pickup?
- I will be there a total of four days and five nights. Where is a good place to just hang out during the day and afternoon and people watch?
- Last one: How are the prices compared to the US? Is it recomemded to do any shopping in CTG for say, perfumes, brand name clothes and sportswear, etc.?
Thanks in advance for any answers.
Digits
Hilton is about half a mile from LDV and both are located in the area called Laguito. Pleyboy club is about a 35 minute taxi ride from Hilton and LDV.
Viagra and Cialis are easily obtained without prescription from any pharmacy. Try the generic viagra, 50 mg for about $2 each.
Very few maps. try the internet with a google search. Realtor Paul Juan has a small map on his web site.
You should be safe at the airport at 11 pm. Remember Cartagena has the navy base and I would say it is probably the safest tourist destination in S.A. You read about murders in the newspaper, but most of these peope are local Colombians who have lived there all their life and pissed off the wrong person. I have taken taxis at all hours of the night to clubs, alone and with girls. You should ask up front about the fare, however, because they will try to overcharge if they can. Should be about 12,000 pesos to anywhere, at night.
Taxi drivers are trying to earn a living and would lose their job and livelihood if they committed a crime. However they all drive too fast, honk their horns too much and play their radios too loud. They want to have a good time and the testosterone makes them drive like maniacs. If they can overcharge you 10-20% they will, after all it is a profit motive and they see us as fat cash cows ripe for picking. This is not only in Colombia but in any country where the pussy is cheap. But outright theft or robbery is a crime and they would lose their job.
I recommend the main street in Boca Grande or Laguito. There is alot of young street action there, very good I might add, for about 40K pesos. I also like to hang out during the daytime at the Hilton hotel pool. Just walk in the front door and go thru to the back. Never have I been challenged except once when I tried to get a towel and was asked for a room number.
What is the Hilton going for a night? Last time I asked it was about $125 or more incl. breakfast, a night. I recommend you try the Hilton for a day or two and then stay in an apartment for about $50-70 a night. Mery has her email address in this Cart. thread somewhere and she rents apartments close to the Hilton for $60 or so. Much easier to get girls in your room and more private. Less price.
The prices are not much lower than in the US except for pussy. There are high fashion shops in Boca grande where you can buy things at Tommy HIlfinger or Polo shops for more than in the US. There are alot of vendors selling junk T shirts, sunglasses, etc. in the daytime, especially on the beach. You must ignore them or they will drive you crazy and you will come close to punching them out. I try to stay in Cart. for only a few days at a time so I do not get irritated too much. Sometimes I just ignore them, other times I play with them and try to sell them my sun glasses for an exorbitant price.
Wish I were there for a few days! Enjoy!
I'm considering a trip to Cartagena in Jan or Feb for 2 weeks. I've been to Cuba numerous times, Mexico & the DR but not too many other places. I can either get an air only deal on a charter on an all inclusive for not much more. I know I wont be able to bring chicas into the AI. I read through a lot of posts here and I know most people say apts are the way to go. If I go AI, are there places to get some action during the day? If I meet a girl on the beach or in the old city is she going to have a place to go? I read that there aren't any mp's. What do you guys think about going in with a place booked for one night and just finding an apt while there. I might want to stay in the old city part of the time and the beach another part, maybe even a few days in Baranquilla (sp?). I'm sure all the touts are a pain in the ass but I think I'd find a cheaper apt while I'm there than ahead of time - also I'll know where I want to be. I'm much more into the beach/semi-pro action than the clubs.
Can you stay overnight on one of the nearby islands, are there girls there or do you bring one?
I wouldn't go just for the pussy, there has to be more. I'm not thrilled with the reports on the quality of the beach but the walled city sounds interesting and I could go on a couple of island day trips.
I might go to Margarita Island, Venezuela instead. I went there last year. I thought it was really good for the tourist stuff - but the girls were dissapointing. If I go there again I'll have to figure out how to run an ad in the paper before I get there. Cuba is incredible for girls, but I've been there lots of times and I want to go somewhere else this winter. Budget is a concern, and the charters are pretty affordable from Canada.
Thanks in advance, I'll let you know what I decide.
Methos
[QUOTE=Methos]I'm considering a trip to Cartagena in Jan or Feb for 2 weeks. I can either get an air only deal on a charter on an all inclusive for not much more. I know I wont be able to bring chicas into the AI. I read through a lot of posts here and I know most people say apts are the way to go. action than the clubs.
Can you stay overnight on one of the nearby islands, are there girls there or do you bring one?
I wouldn't go just for the pussy, there has to be more. I'm not thrilled with the reports on the quality of the beach but the walled city sounds interesting and I could go on a couple of island day trips.
Thanks in advance, I'll let you know what I decide.
Methos[/QUOTE]Starting in December you will be able to get direct flights from Toronto to CTG. The most reasonable AI package will probably be at the Decameron in Boca Grande.
I cannot stress enough that the AI is NOT the way to go. Get an apartment !
You will be more comfortable and have a place to bring your daytime and nighttime chicas to. Why waste time and money on by the hour rooms when you can bang your chica in the comfort of your own apt. Make sure you have the fridge stocked with booze and see how a ST chica becomes TLN.
As for the nearby islands such as the Rosarios, you certainly can stay there for a night or two, I would recommend bringing some proven talent with you.
As for Margarita, I been toying with the idea of taking one of my regulars over there for a break.
Hi everyone,
I’m just trying to finalize my list. If any of you gents feel up to checking my homework, I would appreciate all feedback. Based on previous post, the p4p scene in CTG seems to revolve around LDV, casas and freelancers on the beach. Please let me know if I have left off anything on my list that one would not want to miss in CTG. Also, for any of you that are familiar with Bogotá, I have posted a very brief checklist in the [color=red][post=381002] Bogotá section[/post][/color], if you don’t mind taking a look at my checklist for that city too:
Clubs:
La Dolce Vita (El Laguito closes at 2am)
Discos:
Mr. Babillas
Barbar
Tu Candela
Giro Matto
La Tripletera
Casas:
Casa de Munecas
Casa del Marino
The International
Pleyboy Club
Manila House
Avoid???:
Aeropostale
Noches de America
Any others??
Thanks in advance,
Y & R
I booked Hilton for $115 about three weeks ago (not sure whether it includes breakfast). Interestingly enough, on the same day, Hilton's own website was quoting the same type room for $215. I booked through Orbitz.
I plan to do exactly that: I expect to walk around and check out the apts and get one for the remaining three days.
Thanks for your answers and the detailed information.
Pretty good summary, Y & R. I'll just add my thoughts.
Discos -
Giro Matto is the only real late night spot (after 2am). But there's really not much to recommend it IMO. Don't worry if you never get there. Best strategy is to have your girl chosen by around 1:30am or so. LDV is really the standout place in Cartagena for pros.
Remember that non-pro nightlife even in big cities in Colombia is good on Fridays and Saturdays, marginal on Thursdays and Sundays, and really no good the rest of the week.
Avoid - all guides.
closes at 3:00 am. If you are still looking around 4:00am, stand around outside of Giro Matto. There is a 10K cover. The chicas wait for someone to pay for them or to hook up.
The idea of looking for an apartment while you are there is very good.
Often better than Saturday, ESPECIALLY if it is a puente. So I gotta disagree with Cachorro (though I agree Sunday nights are deadsville). Maybe Cartagena is different, especially Laguito (which is NOT the real Colombia IMHO). I like it mind you, but it is DEFINITELY a different scene than anywhere else in the country.
LDV is great every night of the week. Starts about 11 pm. Best time is midnight. ONly closed on religious holidays. Closed for 2 days around ash wednesday and closed some of the week during Easter. Of course all night clubs that serve alcohol are closed also on these days. You can always try the ***** house behind Pleyboy club on religous holidays because they do not serve alcohol. Enjoy.
I don't recall LDV being closed during Easter. But I don't get there that much any more even though I live two blocks away. I also can't recall any clubs serving alcohol being closed for any holidays.
They did shut all alcohol sales off for about three days in Feb. because of a trade conference. Seems that some union activists staged a small riot a few months earlier during a similar conference. You don't fuck with the authorities or embarass the government.
Just wanted to thank everyone for their feedback and those that PM'd me too. Should be fun!
Thanks again,
Y & R
I´ll go to Cartagena in October.
Where is possible to find streetwalkers (young girls)?
I've heard names like Playboy Club, Manila House, Casa de Muñencas.
How much girls are in those clubs?
There are girls in the beach at day?
Thanks you for the information.
I can only speak for the discos.
Mr. Babillas is fine only on Mondays. Most of regular, cartagena women inside.
IMHO Tu Candela is overrated. Expensive drinks and entrance fee´s. Colombian women with their with local rich colombian men.
If you like electronic music, giro matto is the place to be! It starts late (02.00.am opening, crowdly at 03.00 am, funny at 04.00 am, closes 05.30/06.00 am.) A lot of pro´s from LDV, tourists, semi pros´s, non pro´s and a really good party. Cover charge is different, during my stay I was 14 nights theres - I had to pay cover only the first nights. It is running by an italian guy. Also they sell pintada´s!
Important: For all those place is basic spain a must; I swear , best spain - best fun. And a little more style (clothes, haircut) is also higly recommended.
A few LATE at night on the corner and by bottom of stairs leading to La Perla Casino & LDV. These are higher priced and more used to gringos. WAY more in the Plaza de Coches (near the clocktower) and in Getsumani (but a riskier area of town to walk around at night), but you will likely need to negotiate in Spanish.
I'm getting ready for a trip to South America, I've lived in Rio de Janeiro for a year and visited Buenos Aires but have never been to Colombia.
For those in the know, I have a couple questions:
1) How do the Colombian ladies stack up against the Cariocas (women from Rio)?
2) If I were to visit only on city in Colombia with the goal, which has the most beautiful, accesible women? I'm considering Baranquilla, Cartegena, Medellin, and Cail.
What say you fellow mongers?
Thanks in advance,
Sweetlemon
Thank you to all who have contributed here for making my trip utterly enjoyable. Below are the experience and opinions of the author, that’s me, so please don’t take them as judgments or absolute.
With the rebels, the paramilitary, the drugs lords, the armed civilians, and corrupt cops, Colombia did not seem like a wise destination for a vacation. After reading glowing recommendations from notable members, I decided to take a chance and experience Colombia for myself – destination Cartagena, a safe haven for tourists.
My excitement of reaching Colombia lasted only, a few minutes, until I entered the airport. A sniffing dog accompanied with an armed soldier welcomed me as I entered the door. If that was not enough, there was a video camera man smack in front of me tapping my surprised reaction, and behind him were more soldiers with bigger guns. There was no reason for me to be nervous standing in the crawling immigration and custom lines, but I was while the custom agents thoroughly searched every bag of every passenger. Once outside the airport, the fun began.
Spent a night each at Hotel Charlotte ($60) and Hotel San Martin ($65) before renting an apartment ($50) in Laguito, the best way to go. Preferred Hotel San Marin over Hotel Charlotte. These were low season rates.
The most I paid for taxi was 12,000 pesos ($5.5) across town and from the airport to Laguito. The typical fares were 4,000p ($1.80) and 5,000p ($2.30) at night. There were no meters in the taxi’s so I asked for the fare before I took one.
Exchanged a few dollars at the airport at the rate of 2,100 pesos per dollar. Exchange rate at most cambios on Avenida San Martin (Carrera 2) in Boca Grande was 2,100. One was exchanging at 2,000. The cambio in the Carulla grocery store in front of the naval base was exchanged at 2,200. ATMs had the best rate and were the most convenient.
The city is small, at least the tourist areas. Laguito is tiny with a single road down the middle. The walk from La Dolce Vita on one end to Hilton Hotel on the other end is 5 minutes. Boca Grande is larger with most hotels and restaurants on Avenida San Martin a block away from the beach. The beaches along Avenida de Malecon are segmented into small patches. The Old Town or Walled City in Centro is exciting and interesting. Rosario Islands about an hour boat ride away are worth a trip but with a companion.
I had a great few days in Cartagena mostly because of the girls, best Girl Friend Experience thus far surpassing Brasil, Thailand, and Romania. La Dolce Vita was my favorite hangout. The popular and experienced girls started negotiations at 200,000p but settled for 150,000p for all night (120,000 for a couple of hours). Others started at 150,000 but were happy with 120,000p for all night. Knowing the pricing structure before hand made the negotiations easier and effective.
Enjoyed spending time in both Tu Candela and Mr. Babillas. Took a while to realize that the semi-pro/pro sections in Tu Candela is upstairs and in Mr. Babillas is the bar area to the right. Made a hands off, at least for now, friend in Mr. Babillas, and spent a memorable night with a semi-pro from Tu Candela, total GFE and a sweet heart. Visited Giro Mato and Trippleterra but did not find what I was looking for. Pleyboy was only good for a drink the night I went.
As for dance places for working locals, Bololo is great. It is huge with a lot of people. During the night, the performers get on top of the bar and dance for the audience. Picking up someone here will depend on your talents but some conversational Spanish is a must. Burladera on Pedro de Heredia Avenue is a nice romantic dance place to take a girl. The night I was there, everyone was coming in as couples. Karamba a few blocks away was not worth the trip. It was small, loud, and crowded.
Loved spending dinner time at Plaza de Santo Domingo. Food was decent but relatively expensive and I did not care since I was willing to pay more for flirting with the cute waitresses.
I just went through reading the last few months of entries... I was there in Aug of 2001 right before 911 with a group of NYPD guys. At the time we rented the 4 bedroom penthouse with a rooftop pool just next to the Hilton. One of the guys I went with was an old CTG dog and knew all of the spots. Sadly this prevented me from remembering all of the different places we went to. From the looks of the board... the only two places mentioned are playboy and LDV. I don't think that playboy was arround when I was there.. but LDV was just opening up. However when I was there there were no fewer than 8 top notch places we went. Many were in the industrial area to the south of the city.. and there was a good freelance disco right in Boca Grande.
Anyone have any information about these off the beaten path places.?
Place A) Large place.. about 20min taxi from BG.. large stage where girls dance.. not much of a selection.
Place B) In a residential area.. onsite rooms.. with a cortyard in back.
Place C) Huge selection... army came in and checked ID's... near the old city.
There were tons of other places... actually I prefered these out of the way spots to LDV where the action was much more hardcore. Surfer knew these places... but I have no idea if they are still there. Some of them were a bit sketchy.. but with 4 guys all over 6'3".. I guess we didn't pay much attention.
Also.. any suggestions on places to stay.? URL's..
When we were there we had a great driver who charged up by the day... anyone reccomend one.?
Lastly... seems that the going rate is 100,000 ..? That's about 50% higher than when I was there last... is CTG getting more expensive.?
Any thoughts on Barranquilla and Medellin.?
Thanks,
ENDER
Ender, your (B) sounds like Rocio. (A) might be Casa del Marino but it's hard to be sure.
I wouldn't call either of these places top notch on current form. Depends on your expectations, I guess. I didn't like Rocio because of the gringo price gouging. You ask them the price, and you see them think for a few seconds and then come up with something. I went on two occasions and both times the price was different (and high for Cartagena). Did not session either time.
Have you guys lost your minds or what? Why in the hell is anyone paying over $100K for all night long in CTG?
My pussy is from free from amigos, dot cum I mean dot com! To 100K max and I'm talking the nasty dirty, lick my ass and balls lets get freaky thing.
All for no more then 100K for all night long!
This is the deal, I was in CTG and BAQ with my girl from a good family, not a street rat hoe! Mom is an Abogoda (Attorney) dad was a Pilot for Avianca!
We where at that beef Resturant across the street from LDV, thank God I did not see any of my ex-hoes! But our bill came to like 50K, so I tip the guy like 5K, and she looks at me like I'm crazy for tipping so much! And again my shortie comes from a good family!
My 1800 Sq apartment on the same road as the Hilton, was $60 U.S. per night, and my good girl from a good family was impressed!
My point is this, why are you guys paying so much more for everything?
Actually.. both names rang a bell... so if they are not the ones described... then I most likely have been to them. You're right about the prices at the one... I think I paid 70,000 (To The House) and 30,000 to the girl when I took out from that one.... at the time it was close to 2x the going rate.
I just didn't like the hardcore atmosphere of LDV.... for some reason I just didn't feel the love in that place.... now it's possible that things change quite a bit in 4 years.... for me I hope so.
Is the disco (still in Boca Grande on the main drag on the way back to the old city) still a good place to pick up Semi-pros..? Since I speak a bit of Spanish... I tend to have much more fun in the non-monger places.
Thanks Again,
ENDER
[QUOTE=Latina Passion]Have you guys lost your minds or what? Why in the hell is anyone paying over $100K for all night long in CTG?
My pussy is from free from amigos, dot cum I mean dot com! To 100K max and I'm talking the nasty dirty, lick my ass and balls lets get freaky thing.
All for no more then 100K for all night long!
This is the deal, I was in CTG and BAQ with my girl from a good family, not a street rat hoe! Mom is an Abogoda (Attorney) dad was a Pilot for Avianca!
We where at that beef Resturant across the street from LDV, thank God I did not see any of my ex-hoes! But our bill came to like 50K, so I tip the guy like 5K, and she looks at me like I'm crazy for tipping so much! And again my shortie comes from a good family!
My 1800 Sq apartment on the same road as the Hilton, was $60 U.S. per night, and my good girl from a good family was impressed!
My point is this, why are you guys paying so much more for everything?[/QUOTE]
That was my question... when I was there in 2001 it was 50,000 .... now all these guys are saying 100,000.... I guess columbia is turning into the next Costa Rica.. where the stupid gringos drive up the price to $100+ for short time... I mean come on... enough is enough... I remember Cambidoa in 1996 when long time was $4... What are the prices in Barranquilla and Medellin..?? Hopefully less ...
ENDER
TLN, the girls ask for 200K pesos. If you respond with 100K pesos they will laugh and you will go home horney. Normally you will pay 150K for a cute sweet girl all night. That is about $60 US
If you want a street girl or a beach girl, they ask for 100K. I never give them more than 40K pesos. That is about $18.
Only $4, like in Cambodia in 1996 Ender, will buy you some lotion and kleenex to masturbate.
No sense insulting with your comments, like "have you lost your mind" Latina Passion. These are the reality prices. Please read my earlier posts 3 months ago about trying to get an all nighter for 100K and getting discouraged when there were no takers.
If you do not like them, do not go, or try to get some internet pussy for free. Good luck. You will pay one way or another.
I concur with Ngp477. Just got back from Cartagena a few days ago. LDV TLN was 150,000p (experienced) & 120,000 (newbie). Saw a man being refused service for offering below market pricing. He was still alone when I left. Don't know what the girls will take at closing time but my companion would not budge below the above prices.
Ngp477 I bet in a year you will pay $100.
And in two years you will pay $150.
And in four years you can better stay home in the USA. Much cheaper.
SO many factors bear on this: how much they like you, how good your Spanish is, how desperate you look, how many other punters they see that night, time of night, how much the chica NEEDS pesos right then etc etc etc.
I hear from reliable sources that 120K for all nighters from LDV is still very doable.
I have been paying 100K for an hour for 2 1/2 years. I never want more than an hour. You realize that this is the premire free-lance place in Colombia. The veteran chicas counsel the newbies on pricing. I can't blame them for asking for more. I just won't pay it. Some guys do. It's their money.
You can hunt the beaches, Centro, and barrios away from the tourist zone if you want cheaper stuff. It is there. I have paid as little as 50K, but I'm not a hard negotiator. Obvious street walkers are arrested in CTG.
The street walker scene is hotter in MDE. I have paid 40K there.
There is no such thing as free pussy. Paying by the piece, for me, has been much less expensive.
[QUOTE=Tom 33]I have been paying 100K for an hour for 2 1/2 years. I never want more than an hour. You realize that this is the premire free-lance place in Colombia. The veteran chicas counsel the newbies on pricing. I can't blame them for asking for more. I just won't pay it. Some guys do. It's their money.
You can hunt the beaches, Centro, and barrios away from the tourist zone if you want cheaper stuff. It is there. I have paid as little as 50K, but I'm not a hard negotiator. Obvious street walkers are arrested in CTG.
The street walker scene is hotter in MDE. I have paid 40K there.
There is no such thing as free pussy. Paying by the piece, for me, has been much less expensive.[/QUOTE]
Ngp477: No disrespect intened but if your paying $150,000 for a piece of tail you must be in some pretty poor shape!
My point is this, it is all about ECONOMICS! Not U.S. econonmics, but yes you got it Colombian economics! What does the average Colombian make per day? Tom33 you are one of the people on this forum that would know best, so what is it $15 or $20 U.S. per day?
Besides the obvious, one of my favorite things to do in Colombia is to eat Baby Beef! At the steak house across from LDV I pay $18,500 = $7.80 U.S., now if I go to a residential part of town for that same cut of baby beef I pay $8000 = $3.50 at an exchange rate of 2350 to 1!
Last year I was in Cartagena 4 times, and with one exception I never paid more then 100K Para Todo La Noche! 4 times in Cartagena last year and at LDV not a single girl lauged in my face when I offered from 60K to 100K!
Guys I'm not 20 or 30, last I checked I'm forty fucking two! I guess I speak just enough spanish to get me by, I keep myself in good shape, and I can still dance and know how to have a good time, with a sense of humor!
I guess it is all in the way you present yourself!
I live in 35 miles east of Los Angeles one of the most over priced places in the fucking world, and for a rub down and quick 30 minute sex I only pay from $80 to $100!
If you guys are paying $60 for short or long time, God love you because you are true Saints!
I love this forum, because when I travel, this forum is my bible, from Asia to South America and points in between!
Again guys I love this forum, but talking to some of you guys is like talking to my ex-wife, and that is like talking to a brick wall!
GOOD BYE CARTAGENA HOLA COSTA RICA!
The good thing is, all the Chicas that left Colombia for Costa Rica, will hear what they are getting in Cartagena and move back home!
So now the price of tail will be driven up in a little known spot called Cartagena and be driven down in a very well known spot called Costa Rica and Panama for that matter! Gents, pure economics, the law of supply and demand! Or as I like to call it, Hoe Economics 101!
Well, where do I start? Too long of a subject and people's feelings will get hurt.
Here's how the prices get so high. Quick examples, nothing specific.
Monger A comes to CTG and pays COP100.000 for TLN, knowing damn well that the market rate is COP50.000. Monger A is experienced in negotiating, speaks Spanish, but HAS to have this one chica. He pays the COP100.000. Guess what? Next day, that same chica's laughing at him after the session, while willing to bone some local for much cheaper, if not free (How do you think all these chicas' kids have Colombian fathers?). Next evening, chica increases her market rate.
Monger B comes down and speaks no Spanish and has no way to really negotiate. Chica tells him COP200.000. He pays after she stands firm on her price. Next evening, chica's market rate increases to COP200.000. She's willing to wait all night for that rate, as some idiot will pay it. Of course, she's right.
Monger C comes down, stand firm at the market rate, tells the hardcore chicas to fuck themselves for COP200.000. He has money to spend, BUT has the common sense to know that HE decides what the market is, not the chica. Monger C is seen as cheap, but heads to other areas to get his rate. 30-60 mins later, he is successful and fully satisfied. Or he has minimal problems with the chica, which at COP40.000-50.000, is manageable.
Who wins? As always, it's the chica. They all talk with each other. Many discuss rates. They will mark you as a sucker. If you pay COP150.000 on your 1st night down, that's your bottom rate for the rest of the trip. Chicas will tell their friends not to accept anything less than COP150.000 to COP200.000 from you. Or really, by your own decision, you mark yourself.
Their intent is to fuck someone that night. The clicker is who's gonna pay for it, or who do I like the best, or who can I milk the longest. When it's all said and done, that same chica is a hooker. That's the truth of the matter. Not saying to treat her any less than any other lady, but to recognize that it is what it is. She made that choice before she got to you.
I'm not a bitter dude at all. I've also overpaid in every market, but I accept and try to limit those missteps. No sugarcoating, no lies.
The market rate increases so drastically when Monger A & Monger B, from above, don't walk away and stand firm on their acceptable price, not the chica's price. It's the monger's option to contribute to screwing up the market by playing along with the chica, who will take as much as possible.
For instance, when a hot chica starts the TLN bidding at COP500.000, and you start at COP100.000, is COP300.000 reasonable or just plain stupid? Before you answer, COP500.000 HAS BEEN paid before (not by me). Now put the same in context with COP100.000 and COP300.000.
When these dudes start agreeing to COP300.000, is when the entire LDV starts standing firm at that price for TLN. Can you blame the chicas for being so savvy?
Solution: when you start hearing the crazy price quotes, ask one of the other dudes there what they are getting in prices, if both of you are not content, pay you tab, tell the chicas your plans to go elsewhere and that they can fuck themselves for that ridiculous price, and just leave. If this happens enough, and chicas are going home alone, the market rate will go back down. Something beats nothing. Eventually, they will get the picture.
There ARE other places to go (ask any cab driver), plenty of other chica options as well.
In the end, fellas, it's just pussy. Nothing more, nothing less. My twenty-two cents.
Here's my dilemma. I like the whole experience of being with a girl; conversation, dancing, etc. plus I like waking up next to a soft warm body in the morning. Don't want to travel thousands of miles for a quickie so short time is typically not for me. Now, I certainly do not want to contribute to the raising of rates in Cartagena but I also don't want to be preceived as cheap because it results in a marginal experience. I do stand my ground and walk away if I know the going rate.
How do I go about finding the current pricing for TLN in LDV because they seem to be all over the place on this board?
Also, there must be a differential between the average ones and the popular ones and what is that differential?
My novia in Medellin made 20K pesos per day about US$8.70 as a social worker with a college degree.
Well ... I think Hoof hunter sums up "chica pricing 101" nicely.
It's like my Dad taught me when I was a kid on how to negotiate when buying a car.
Number one rule is ... don't fall in love with that one particular car ... if the dealership is asking too much and won't budge on the price ... move on to the next car or dealership ... there will always be another great car just around the corner.
Same applies for mongering ... there's plenty of chcias to be had in Cartagena.
I know everybody 'mongers' differently ... my style, especially in a place like LDV, is to try and bond with a chica ... this bonding of course all depends on your spanish speaking ability, your 'coolness' factor ... yes there are dorks among us mongerers ... heck, I'm probably one of them ...
... and of course physical appearance obviously comes into play ... if you were the chica, would you rather be with the old, muy fat guy or the younger, nicer looking guy? ... obvious answer.
Once bonding takes place with a chica ... pricing is irrelevant ... isn't mentioned ... if a chica starts talking to me about pricing ... for the hour, 2 hour, TLN, etc ... like a f...g menu ... I politely move on.
If the chica is the hottest chica and I'd really love to do her ... but she gets in to the pricing, I personally move on ... there WILL be another one ...
AND ... as we all know or should know ... the hottest, and most business savy chicas are more times than not ... NTG ... "not that good" anyway.
Just my 2 cents ... like I said ... everyone likes to monger just a little differently.
Now ... for me ... back to Venezuela ... places where a gringo is still a rare sight!
Suerte!
[QUOTE=Latina Passion]Ngp477: No disrespect intened but if your paying $150,000 for a piece of tail you must be in some pretty poor shape!
[/QUOTE]No disrespect intended, Latina Passion but I am in fine shape and just ran 2 miles this morning.
DAMN SOME GUYS ARE PRETTY SENSITIVE!
Correct me if I'm wrong, but i hardly think that suggesting that a member might not be in shape, is an excuse to go on a ram page and suggest that he can kick my asshole!
Hell, that is a new one to me kicking another man's asshole! Must be some new type of fetish that I'm not aware of!
This reminds me of when I was in High School, no I'm sorry I mean Junior High School. I'd be on the basketball court playing ball, and one guy would make an off hand comment to another guy. The guy that the comment was made to would have a HISSY fit and take his ball and go home!
As the guy was walking of the court with his ball in tow, he would say if you ever say that crap to me again I'll tell your DADDY! Then as he got really FAR away, he yell if you ever say that crap to me again I bet I can kick your ASSHOLE, and I will tell the Principal to band you from the court!
Of course my response would be tell my daddy you little *****!
My friends would ask me, Steve what did you say to him? I told him he needed to tighten up on his game is all! That's it Steve that is all you said to him, yep that's it! Wow what a little *****!
Ok ... Ok ... this site really gets boring when guys start fighting with eachother ... boooooring.
Back to cool info ... fotos ... experiences ...
Ngp477 ... I've read a bunch of your reports here ... I respect your opinions and experiences ....
When someone wrote a sarcastic remark about you ... it was nothing ... no one pays attention to that ... that guys doesn't know ya ... who cares.
I appreciate your reports ... you seem to be an experienced traveler ...
I hope to read more of your reports ... you have respect here ... you don't need to defend yourself ... just brings more attention to the 'sillyness'.
Cool ................... Suerte!
A few of us are coming down to Carta this Monday from MDE for 3 days, just for a breaksie. ( got to remember my russian before my trip there in OCT )
Interesting reading to talk about the inflated prices of chickers, dont worry guy´s, we will bring our own.
Hope none of you guy´s try and pick them up at DSV this time, last time I was there my 6ft tall paisa, mona, muma sitta, she corsed a few head akes and a rise of tempreture in the place.
I was a bit disappointed in the quality last time at DSV, it was on a Friday night to, but then again I live in MDE and maybe I´m a bit spoilt !!!!
What do you think Ricker !!!!!!
The Aussie.
Well Aussie Greg ... in my opinion ...
Cartagena is definitely more than just LDV ... which for some strange reason, in your Aussie thinking you call DSV ... hahaha ... but it is the main attraction.
I've been there many times (LDV) as well as the rest of the city of Cartagena.
Of course I've been to Medellin many times over the past years ... all over that city too.
To sum it up ...
... Cartegena is a great place to go to and experience the tropical setting with the PFP readily available at the LDV ... with chicas from all over Colombia.
Also the local Costenas are very friendly and fun to interact with ... much easier to approach than the typical Paisa from Medellin.
... Medellin of course is a beautiful city ... with beautiful chicas all over the place and too has casas and massage places to visit the PFP.
The chicas (Paisias) are beautiful, but are not as easy-going as the costal chicas from Cartagena ... generally speaking. I must say though ... they are very sweet people from Medellin.
For a quick vacation to enjoy a variety of PFP ... easily accessible ... Cartagena is a great place.
For a place to visit and get to know over a longer period of time ... nicer climate ... without the "drive you crazy" touts of Cartagena ... Medellin is a great place.
The winner is ... in my humble opinion ... from my experience ...............
Venezuela! .... see sample below ...
Suerte! ............... Ricker
Ricker,
You broke all the hearts in MDE and now your moving on !!!! you barstedo, all the street girls are asking, where´s Pappy !! you, with a tear in their eye !!! and a empty belly !!!! any way, enoght of the bullshit, we miss you here mate, when are you coming back, or does M----a have a loaded gun waiting for you !!!!!
Ricker, I decided to call the ***** bar LSD, what do you think, catchy.
I believe all the Paisa´s have gone to Panama, the reason is that they reckon the guy´s are to cheep !
Taking the crew back to BOG on the third night in stead of staying here, will give La Pisina and El Castella a go, anything will be better than Carta, maybe I have been spoilt.
The Aussie.
[QUOTE=Ricker]Well Aussie Greg ... in my opinion ...
Cartagena is definitely more than just LDV ... which for some strange reason, in your Aussie thinking you call DSV ... hahaha ... but it is the main attraction.
I've been there many times (LDV) as well as the rest of the city of Cartagena.
Of course I've been to Medellin many times over the past years ... all over that city too.
To sum it up ...
... Cartegena is a great place to go to and experience the tropical setting with the PFP readily available at the LDV ... with chicas from all over Colombia.
Also the local Costenas are very friendly and fun to interact with ... much easier to approach than the typical Paisa from Medellin.
... Medellin of course is a beautiful city ... with beautiful chicas all over the place and too has casas and massage places to visit the PFP.
The chicas (Paisias) are beautiful, but are not as easy-going as the costal chicas from Cartagena ... generally speaking. I must say though ... they are very sweet people from Medellin.
For a quick vacation to enjoy a variety of PFP ... easily accessible ... Cartagena is a great place.
For a place to visit and get to know over a longer period of time ... nicer climate ... without the "drive you crazy" touts of Cartagena ... Medellin is a great place.
The winner is ... in my humble opinion ... from my experience ...............
Venezuela! .... see sample below ...
Suerte! ............... Ricker[/QUOTE]
So you better lower your expectations BEFORE going. CTG is way more user friendly for mongers. The rollos have New York style attitudes by and large. You'll see.
[QUOTE=greydove]Hello all,
I'm planning to come to Colombia in late or early Feb for two weeks. I need to know is it easy to find pregnant or lactating girls out there?.. I like when girls squirt their milk all over my body so I was hoping to find a girl when I get down there. What is the bargain price to have a girl overnight? Do they have a special advertising for lactating and or pregnant girls online or in newspaper? I really appreciate for all the info guys.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Even though your request is rather odd, an ad in the paper is the only way to go, you should stick to single Mothers, you don`t want a jelaous husband from cracking your head open.I have ran ads for many guys in the past , but never recall ever seen one so special, but again, anything can be arranged.Peter.
[QUOTE=Peter Solano]Even though your request is rather odd, an ad in the paper is the only way to go, you should stick to single Mothers, you don`t want a jelaous husband from cracking your head open.I have ran ads for many guys in the past , but never recall ever seen one so special, but again, anything can be arranged.Peter.[/QUOTE]
I would suggest running the ad way ahead of time as even though there may be many single Mothers out there, not all are willing to satisfy your fantasy.PM and I will give you details about how to have the ad run in the paper.Peter.
Got to disagree with you mate
Ive always done well there with the rollas and there are always Paisa´s there working from MDE, I walked into La Pisina and all I heard was, Greg, Greg, Greg.
My Rollar ex-girlfriend works there and is one of the highest incomers there, I broke her heart when I said my Paisa girlfriend is waiting with legs open back at the hotel, and I wanted her to be part of my S.A.
At Castila there are many girls from San Diego, all I heard was Aussie, Aussie, Aussie, I nealy said Hoy, Hoy, Hoy !!!!!
I guess Surf, its all down to ones own experiance, you carnt help it if your old, fat, bald and ugly !!!!! hope you can take a joke !!!
Greg
[QUOTE=Surfer]So you better lower your expectations BEFORE going. CTG is way more user friendly for mongers. The rollos have New York style attitudes by and large. You'll see.[/QUOTE]
Ricker,
Where are the places to go in Cartegena? PFP or otherwise? Thanks.
Swede
Swede ... not to be rude but ... read some previous posts here ... pretty obvious amigo ... guys report on this stuff daily.
Greg,
This is no way for you to go thru life. Really mate, get a grip on yourself. :-)
[QUOTE=Aussie Greg]old, fat, bald and ugly![/QUOTE]
Ricker,
I'm beggining to feel like a poor neglected black child.
[QUOTE=Ricker]Swede ... not to be rude but ... read some previous posts here ... pretty obvious amigo ... guys report on this stuff daily.[/QUOTE]
I am quite shoked by what you guys are paying these hoes.
Any one paying more than 80K for the whole night at LDV is getting hoosed. Don't pay more than 80-100K just laugh. Remeber these woman are hoes.
I've been traveling to Cartagena for years and I pay 100K toda la noche at this point. And I am way too generous probably. Some guys just can't walk away from a piece of ass, though, and smart working girls can sniff them out a mile away...
Zippy ... BINGO!
I agree with what you said amigo!
heading over to LDV on Wed and Thurs of this week, if anyone is in town and wants to join me, please PM me. Thanks.
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[QUOTE=Ngp477] if anyone is in town [/QUOTE]Heh. I wish. I was there for 6 weeks(go there every year) from august to september. Say hi to Valentina for me.
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Yes, this morning. It said you do not have permission to view this page about 3 times. After logging in and out a few times it worked.
A friend of mine is doing a brief business trip to Cartagena next month and sadly probably won't have the time or freedom to go hunting in places like LDV. I think he also needs to keep a bit a low profile due to this business nature of his trip and can't be dragging high-heeled beauties through the hotel lobby in the wee hours. He is hoping to be able to "order in" to his hotel from some internet site, something which I know is very common in Bogota. I don't know of any such options in Cartagena from my experience there, nor have I found any discussion of such sites looking back through this forum (though I admit I didn't read every page).
Any tips for my buddy? It will be his first trip to Colombia and I am hoping to get him hooked!
SL
Salsero Loco,
If he rented a cell phone from Mery or Juan, he could go dialing for *****s just by going through the numbers stored in memory. I thought about doing that when I rented an apartment & cellphone from Mery -- there must have been about 50 women stored on that little jewel. O.K., actually that's not a very good strategy, but maybe somebody here could P.M. you a few numbers of discrete, presentable women. Does your friend speak Spanish?
My friend unfortunately does not speak much spanish. Are there no Cartagena websites then?
Any you guys have any info on San Andres Island? Clubs things to do etc!
Headed there for the U.S. Thanksgiving Holiday with my colombian novia, so not much time for the sport, but hell her plane does get in two hour after mind! So ya never know!
Any casa's to hit in the afternoon?
I went there a couple years ago with my now ex-novia.
It's a cool little island ... some dancing clubs in the town for night time fun.
Also ... though I didn't hit any of them ... there a couple casas in town for fun too.
The island is small ... just ask the taxi guys ... they'll know of course.
By the way ... you prob know this ... but the first language there is english ... though there a lot of "true Colombians" moving there in the past several years that only speak espanol.
Suerte!
[QUOTE=Tiny 12]Salsero Loco,
If he rented a cell phone from Mery or Juan, he could go dialing for *****s just by going through the numbers stored in memory. I thought about doing that when I rented an apartment & cellphone from Mery -- [/QUOTE]
Tiny 12
I will be in Cartagena mid December for about 2-3 weeks.
Can you please pass me any info about apparment rentals?
Who is Mery and how can I contact her?
Also any similar info for Bogota, Barranquila and Medellin will be appreciated.
Thanks
El Greco
El Greco,
Mery Salence manages and rents apartments. I believe the majority are owned by gringo and European owners -- at least all the ones I stayed in were. On average, they're a cut above what's on the market. And Mery is an absolute jewel -- she's honest, and really helped me out of a bind once, and she's done the same for come other renters as well. Having her available is better than having a concierge at a hotel. I've stayed in three of her Apartments. Number 802 in Torre Centauro or number 703 in Playa Mar are both primo and will impress your date more than a room in the Sofitel. I also stayed in apartment next to Mery's in Torre Centauro on 5th floor, and it wasn't as nice, but good A/C and good value. Contact info -- Mery Salence, telephone (57) (5) 655-0384, email: [blue][Email Address deleted by Admin][/blue].
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Thank you very much for the info.
Could you pls PM me her e-mail address and prices for the appartments?
El Greco
el greco,
you can get mery's email address and some photos of a couple of her apartments at [url]www.travelnet.cx/cartagena/[/url].
i don't remember the exact rates, but around $40 to $80 per night. from looking at web sites mentioned herein you can get a better idea.
you can see some of juan ventura's apartments at [url]www.zepelion.com/apartamentos/index.htm[/url]. i've never had any experience with juan, and probably never will because i've received exceptional service, value and quality with mery. but like mery he has a good reputation, and both are used to dealing with gringos, so they shouldn't be putting you in a building where you'll have problems bringing back chicas.
you probably should just check with mery or juan, not both. i understand they both rent out certain of the same apartments and work together when one doesn't have something available for a client.
some options that aren't recommended -- el conquistador in laguito and the clock tower in the old city have a number of apartments for rent, but haven't received favorable reviews. you might take a look though when you're in cartagena. there are some magnificent, well-maintained apartments in run down buildings. check out the elevators and a/c first though. [url]www.cartagenacondos.com[/url] is owned by an estadounidense who also owns a marriage agency. i've never been inside, but understand while it's a nice apartment, it's removed from both laguito and the old city. also, while it's near the beach, getting to the beach, or walking around the neighborhood, supposedly isn't as safe as laguito or the old city. finally, eddy salence, mery's belgian ex-husband, rents apartments. some have had decent experiences with him and some have not. i rented from him once, and experience was below average, but not terrible.
you've got three options as to where you'll stay. if you want to be close to the hookers and the beach, laguito is best. the second option is the old city, which is a fantastic place (kind of like new orleans french quarter or habana vieja on speed), but no beach. boca grande, a third option, is in between laguito and the old city, and close to the beach.
Juan and Mery work together. I have used Juan every trip that I have ever been to Cartagena. He is a stand up guy. I was there during the Miss Colombia pageant in 2003 when every apartment was booked. I called Juan and he found me a room at the Hotel Barlovento for 4 nights until one of his apartments opened up. The hotel wanted a deposit of $80 USD and Juan paid the deposit out of his own pocket. Had I stiffed him by not showing he could not have gotten his money back. He is one of the most trustworthy people there are. Another guy here had $40,000 USD wired into Juan's account for the purchase of an apartment. Everything went fine. he will never do anything but treat you great.
Beavis, even though we've disagreed on the "Katrina and the Single Male" web site, good to see you here. I've admired your posts. Well, most of them.
I have been here a long time but since I don't go to Mexico anymore I seldom post anymore.
Continued from this report ... [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=582&page=11&pp=15[/url]
Tuesday...
Ok so now It's Tuesday I was with 3 of my buddies and one of them leaves back for the USA, now It's 2 of us. Before I leave back for the USA On Saturday my objectives were clear. I wanted to go to Isla de Rosarios with a favorite chica and have a Menage Session or Two.
So It's kind of a slow day and I head to my favorite store Olimpica for my daily flirt and talk session with the Ice Cream girls in front of the Boca Grande Olimpica and grab some grub from my favorite restaurant in Boca Grande it's right next to the Olimpica and there is a quick street food stand in front of the restaurant that is very popular as well...they serve authentic Colombian Food for under $3-$5 (US Conversion).
Today my motive was to go outside of the Boca Grande, Laguito, Old City Area and get to the Shopping areas and Malls where people go where I can meet some chicks outside of the tourist areas.
So I head into the Olimpica and grab some juice and I run into this FINE chica who is working as a promotional spokesperson/model in the store for Nivea products and I HAD to have her. She was right up my alley, 5'8, 21 y/o Moreno chica, long curly brown hair, beautiful!So we talk and exchange info for hooking up a little bit later. Spanish is a must and my spanish is not that good but she was just gigling the whole time but she digged my swagger so It was all good. Told her we would hook up for Drinks a bit later at a spot of her choice we ended up @ Cafe Murano in the Castle near Old City that night....
So I am headed out the store and about to catch a cab in front to head to the Mall in the East Side of the City (Castellano). As I sit there talking to my guy I look at this English Learning book this Kid had who was with his mom who worked a lottery stand there. So we just started talking and It was finally someone who spoke English! Kid was 17 and learning English and I asked him If he could roll with me and my guy to the Eastside and show us around the city and he was all for It and we just passed as cousins for the rest of the trip. We head to the mall and about 45 minutes East by Taxi and now you were seeing the REAL CTG, Soccer Stadiums, Bull Fighting Stadiums, Castles, Real Colombian Street Life and I loved IT!
So In the mall my little cousin is with me and my guy and we are just shopping and I come across my GF type for the duration of the trip that I just knew I was takingto Rosario Island with me. Fine 19 y/o Morena chica, 5'5, long black hair, VERY Stylistic and Fashion conscious who is in school there @ The University and works @ a popular restaurant in The Old City. We started talking over a quick but to eat in the mall and of course my "lil cousin" is filling in some blanks with me in spanish but we basically arrange to meet up a bit later for Dinner. The Mall Castelleno is a nice Mall with a Movie Theatre and nice shops that I did'nt really expect to see in Cartagena but you can definately pick up some Non-Pro's in the mall, outside of the mall as well. There is a rougher outdoor mall before you get there that I would'nt suggest If you stick out. But this mall IS "Gringo Safe for guys who stick out". Alot of the Non Pre-tentious Non-Pro Discos are in this area like Green Moon and others I saw on the ride from CTG. Alot of fine chicas walking around for the taking If you know Spanish and I am sure would'nt mind some company.
So we head back and take in some beach action and I keep my "cousin's number" who is very cool and knows places that are not -accessible and was simply just being cool by showing us around. He had class in Boca Grande for English so we split ways but would hook up later.
I had 2 choices for the night the Nivea Girl or the Chick I met @ The Mall an especially since there are no clubs/bars/lounges that arre happening Monday-Wed I had to go for "Date Nights" or LDV & Trippleterra which of course are not bad alternatives. So I decided on the chick I went with to the Mall with and we went to dinner @ This nice place near this nice hotel on the beach that was excellent, cant remember the name of it but it's near Mery's apt I stayed in near a major hotel on the beach. So we went back to the apt after and settled in for some drinks on the balcony overlooking the water got tipsy and that's was all she wrote, this chica was playing Hard to Get but man when It was time for the Sex It was Going DOWN! But anyways, very GF and I digged her out before It was time for her to go home for her 12am curfew so her mom would'nt trip out. So by this time my guy woke up and I saw her off in the cab. Then It was LDV TIME!!!
So we go to LDV and It was In full swing once again! I mean wall to wall FINE ASS CHICAS! The ratio had to be about 10-1! So we slide in there and @ First the chicks thought I was Colombian but kept looking at me very curiously then when I started to talk to them they were startled that I was American. But we are in there having drinks and I settle in on this White Colombiana chica from Baranquilla who was very nice and she stayed Toda La Noche, gave her 75K about $35 Us and she was more than adequate and banged her out all over the apartment, blew my balls and all that good stuff.
Wednesday...
I woke up very late and wanted to do some chill stuff like just relax and chill @ the beach all day and wait for my GF chica to come through later after class and work. So that's what I did but these beach chicas kept were flirting with me wanted to hook up soooo, guess what fellas? I took this lil chica up to my room acroos the street from the beach and she was from Medellin, fine little chica and we chilled and sippid on some rum and got to business! She had her bikini and she slipped It off and sucked and fucked me and I skeeted all on her body check the pics! We had a great time and it was all GRATIS!
Wednesday night I hooked up with the Nivea chick and we hung out @ This nice Spot in the Castle near The Old City and we had a cool time had drinks and just chilled and got to know each other a bit better and went to her place and chilled out but no sex, I would have to work on her for a future trip... But she was lovely, marketing major...Then hooked up with the GF from the previous night after work and did more of the same....
Thursday....
Just chilled out during the day raninto this chica on the street that was cute and had her up for a quick fuck session and paid her $15 US then went to The Old City at night and ran into some interesting stuff, my buddy left in the morning so I am now solo... and my main objective of today/tonite was to Menage and arrange for the Isla Rosarios trip for Friday morning @ 7am with my GF. SO that night I was just hanging around and I got into this party being held by Venezuelen students conference being held there so It was free drinks and I was just hanging with Venezuelen students going around to clubs partying with them and be-friended some of them because I plan to visit there, we were about 40 deep and just roaming the street and went into this club that was suppose to be a Strip Club/Pro Club Called Miami but IT ended up being so many students to where IT turned into a club. So after I partied there I was up for LDV and the menage session...
LDV Thursday Night
Went to LDV around 2am and of course this time It was about 20-1 and I saw 2 chicks that were friends that I wanted to try out, danced with both of them and had drinks and told them I wanted both of them, and told them I was paying no more than $30 US EACH!!! They wanted to fuck with me and came home with me and agreed to the price, we went to Olimpica to get some more rum and beer to make It POP OFF!
We get to this place and these chicks start drinking some more and we are taking shots gettin really buzzed and the music is going full force and these hoes are really feelin themselves...loland one of them starts to roll up a FAT BLUNT and after that they started kissing and touching each other and they get in the shower and I get in the shower and they are sucking my Dick kissin all over my body and really gettin me ready for the F session that is about to go down. Got the C-Doms ready and Warming Gel/KY Jelly ready because I was going to BRING THE PAIN TO THESE CHICAS!
We are all Butt-Naked in the Room and this was around 3am, we hop in the Bed, I was bangin these Chicas out! Gettin fucked and sucked, It was simply splendid! These chicks know what they are doing, I fucked them on the balcony while one of them was lickin my culo and doing everything in between while I fucked her friend over the balcony on over lookin the ocean , These hoes were fuckin like Jack-Rabbitts but after I was going strong in both of them for hours I wore them OUT and after I came 3-4 times over a span from 3am till the sun literally came up and they came and were both laid out after I finished with them...haha, It was a true great menage! My first one so that was exciting, these hoes were knocked out for about 15 minutes after I busted nuts on both of theirs faces and breats, then I told them to get they AZZ up because It's time to GO!...haha So they collect their $30 Us each and are on the way, hugging me and we pose for a few photos ops and they rolled out.
Friday... Rosario Islands
Mind you I have to be up and ready for Rosario Islands at 8am when my GF is coming to meet me at my apartment. I am running on fumes!!! So I get ready clean up and shower and get the "Fucking & Sucking" smell out of my apartment as best as I can before my girlfriend comes over. We head over to the docking station for Rosario and we spend the whole day. If you have a chance that is a must see! You cant go to CTG and not visit Rosario Islands, It's truly a great experience that is cool to take a GF type or even a ***** if you like. IT was 25-30 each from what I remember and we went to tour different Castles out the CTG bay and went out to 2 different BEAUTIFUL beaches and had a lunch and it was great, snorkeling was great and me and my GF had a blast! The boat trip was cool with Aguilar Cervezas the whole trip and a good guide who narrates the trip in spanish excellently. I had to take some no-doz because I did'nt have any sleep since wednesday night and fucking those Chicas for 4 hours plus took alot out of me but I was on the GRIND, GO HARD OR GO HOME!!! So after the trip we got back around 5ish and my GF had to go to work so I said goodbye and went to the aparment to rest up b4 my final night in CTG!
Final Night
After waking up I hit the streets and called Roosevelt, a hustler dude in CTG who speaks English and says he worked in Florida that i met earlier in the week, he is a cool guy so we go hang out in the Old City around just kicking it, I was really going to take it easy since I went so hard the previous night, but this is my last night so might as well go all out right? On the way to the Old City to meet him I ran into this Salon where two beautiful chicas were and their mother, so I go in there and get my haircut by the mother and her daughter speaks english so we talk and hit it off, she just turned 18 so she is acceptable and very cute in school and lives in the nice part of CTG since her family is well off. We arranged to get together later and got o this club in the "Well Off La Popa district of CTG" with her friend and her boyfriend this cool guy I met there in the salon who lived in the states and runs a business on getting students from colombia to school in the USA and they all knew each other and invited me out later....
So I hooked up with Roosevelt when I left the salon and he took me to a friend of his who is trying to get a Gentlemen's Club up and running from Cali so we went by there and OH BOY, he has 2 fine ass chicks that were going to be working there and these chicks were absolutely beautiful so me and Roosevelt are there drinking with them because they live on site there. The place was'nt open yet when I was there but If these chicks are any indication of what he is going to have in there, It should be GREAT! The owner was telling me he had pipeline of chicks from CALI just waiting to come in and start, he was going to have modeling and dancing and everything. I can give anyone Roosevelt's contact info and he can take you to the place. He hooks gringo's up with alot of chicks, but I was'nt on that with him because I can hold my own. But we went there and partied with these chicks and ended up bangin both of the out, One bad azz Blonde chica who could suck gum out of a blow pop and a fine ass morena chica, they were wild! We both switched off adn finished em doggy style and had em turned around and bussed all in their mouths and made em kiss each other...lol, I LOVE COLOMBIA!!!
So after that I rolled out and met my friends in La Popa for some dancing and drinking and I WAS SOOO OUT OF IT! Fallin asleep in the club and everything...lol, we hung out until arund 4am-5am, then it was time for me to go home and get ready for my flight the next day back to the USA!:(. My GF met me at my apartment, checked out with Mery and was out!
Cartagena is a good place to visit even if you wanted to take a girlfriend there, I would say It's good to visit for 4-5 days & nights at the most, Thursday-Sunday if you are already established there after one trip. I would get bored If I just stayed in Boca Grande the whole time, you should get out to Old City and the East Side of the City to get around a bit and explore everything CTG has to offer and definately check out Rosario Islands. LDV is the Spot so definately check that out and Tripleterra and other clubs in the Arsenal District are cool if you want to try your game on non-pros and you can check out clubs on the east side for non-stuck up more down to earth chicas. Everywhere I went in CTG I felt safe so that was definately not a issue. Have fun and check It out...CIAO!
Thank you very much guys.
I can reciprocate if you ever decide to visit Brasil or Buenos Aires or even Greece and the Greeek islands.
El Greco
You're welcome El Greco, and will do. I expect Beavis may take you up on that the next time he's sailing his industrial strength yacht through the Greek Isles.
Not likely I will be heading there. Olive oil grows on trees not from oil rigs.
My last visit to CTG was in 2000 and I am thinking to return in January 2006.
I used to go at LDV and Tu Candela but always I prefered LDV.
In 2000 prices in LDV was about 80.000 - 100.000 COP TLN(toda la noche) depending of course the girl. I speak spanish.
La dolce Vita was in Plaza de San Diego but after reading this forum I think the location has changed.
Mongers speak that LDV now is in Laguito. I'd like to know where is now La Dolce Vita.
I stayed in Bocagrande, Cartagena Plaza Hotel and payed 35.000 COP joiner fee for a girl.
I'm interesting to rent an apartments , 1 room in Bocagrande, Laguito in a place close to the action. Any info about apartments (I read Juan Ventura, etc ) and security, facilities,apartments rates.
Any info would be appreciated.
Thank you,
beavis, nice to see you on the boards. i hope married life is treating you well. i might be one of the few on this board to have met you and your bride. good luck, and as always, stay safe.
Fantasy..........
Didn't know where you were Fantasy. All is well as we get ready for another hurricane.
Great report as always man, next time man break that shit up a little! LOL!
Very nice to see that you did not over pay for some third world ass, and I do not care how fine they are, do not over pay! I have to admit I was in Lima two years ago and I could kick myself for not paying $50 U.S. for some fine ass big tity blonde Chica!
Thursday May ? 2005. Have the red eye on Copa Airlines out of LAX, arrive in Panama for my 2 hour lay over, due a little duty free shopping some Cubans and some Rum!
Hop on my hour flight to BAQ from Panama thats right guys BAQ not CTG!
My novia picks me up from the airport and we head to the El Prado Hotel for lunch at this 5 star Hotel, 5 stars whatever!
We take a taxi from BAQ to CTG price per person $25,000 or around $13 U.S.
Arrive at our apartment around 4pm a two hour drive. Rented this APT from some dating service like love me .com, not bad my third time renting from these folks and the price for a three bedroom 1800 S.F. apartment on the same road as the Hilton was $60 U.S. per night.
I met my Chica on Amigos dot com, so we are talking for a few months, prior to meeting, two weekd prior to me coming I try to get her to open up a little about sex, but I get nothing from her!
I have met a shit load of Latinas on line and none of them talk about sex, well bearlyI Good girls just do not talk about such things. So now I think I getting just some plain jane sex, if I get any at all!
Oh My God, to my surprise my good girl from a good family fucked the shit out of me! We are going at it for at least an hour! We take a shower clean up and my girl walks over to the balcony with her towel on, lets her towel drop to the floor and tells me to take her like this! Hell yes cum to Papi!
Time for a little night life, and my ass has no pesos! This is when you know you have a good girl! I tell my chica shit I have to hit the ATM and get some money, this girl hands me her wallet and tells me I have a few 100K take what you need, I'm thinking to myself what?
Guys you hit CTG, you have to get out of the tourist area, so we hit the clubs in the old city, do not remember the name but it is right next to the convention center, about six clubs or so mainly playing high energy Latin music!
So we are in the club, order a bottle of Vodka and O.J. small bottle that last all night around 70K. Getting my girl nice and shit face dancing and having one hell of a time!
Time to break out a Cuban and Bill Clinton her, 1/2 an hour later time to head back to the apartment for more mind blowing sex!
The next day head to the gym, with a another gringo I met from AZ, and my girl is off to the store for food, again paid for it out of her pocket!
You guys hit CTG you have to get out and about, man the women at the gym, high class for the most part and their bodies are off the hook!
Name of the gym is Bosy Tech, about half a mile from the Hilton, I paid around 50K for a week membership!
Head back to my awaiting chica, who is swimming at the pool, so I go up to the apartment and make a little lunch! My chica comes back from her work out, and noticed I made lunch, and tells me baby if your hungry all you have to do is tell me and I will cook for you!
Sorry guys not much of a monger report, more about the culture, and if you work it right, you aint got to pay for no pussy directly! I'm 42 and have been to Colombia 6 times in the past 15 months, and every time I have been there I have had more then one chica half my age hit on me.
Dating a chica young enough to be my daughter is not my cup of tea, but it's nice to know that I can!
One last thing to report, Wave Runners by the Hilton do not pay more then $80,000 per hour!
Preciate the Love PFL, we gotta educate these cats out here on how to get the best bang for your buck and not overpaying for the P! Yeah sorry about the long report but I had to give it to them raw and uncut with no chaser!
[QUOTE=Latina Passion]Great report as always man, next time man break that shit up a little! LOL!
Very nice to see that you did not over pay for some third world ass, and I do not care how fine they are, do not over pay! I have to admit I was in Lima two years ago and I could kick myself for not paying $50 U.S. for some fine ass big tity blonde Chica![/QUOTE]
Planning a trip to CTG just before Xmas. The Avianca web sight has the cheapest flight from Miami of $480.
Any advice form anyone who has booked through their web sight?
Atlanta's Finest & Latina Passion,
Hats off to you guys!
Great reports!
You guys bring great credit to this board!
Hey PSII,
Can you enlighten us on how to find the online chat with these latina babes.
Your approach to your vacation sounds great. While not as great looking as some of the other members I can sure talk up a good game, especially on line.
Thanks
the gym Pussyseeker was talking about also has several branches in Medellin, at the Viscaya shopping center, and other large cities. You can purchase coupons good for a month or two that will cover several visits and just use the coupons for each visit. If you go to the other cities you can use the coupons at the gyms there. Buying the coupons is usually cheaper than paying for a week or month.
There is another gym on the Boca Grande main street past the hotel Almirante on the way to the hotel Caribe, in a glass buiding, on second floor. It is cheaper, about 7,500 pesos a workout, but the last times I was there there was no air conditioning only fans.
Of course the Cartagena women can give you a good workout too, in bed.
Well, she has a shit load of friends all very good english, educated and the best part is they agree with me as far as a relationships should go, the man always gets the big piece of chicken!
It gets better, I'm at her Grand Mother's house my girl is making lunch, and I go to help my chica, she tells me Steve please leave you are making me look bad! Grand Ma told her how embarrassing it was to have a man help her in the kitchen, please have Steve sit down and get him a beer!
So now I'm testing the water, and I tell Grand Ma how a relationship should be! I tell Granny baby girl will get her way 90% of the time, but when we can't come to the same conclusion, then Latina Passion has line item veto power, and Granny was with me 100% of the way! Granny told me it is the way baby girl was raised at home and in Church!
And again they are middle or upper middle class folks!
Well, you guys know she did open up her wallet, but I did give it all back and then some!
[QUOTE=Regulr Travlr]Hey PSII,
Can you enlighten us on how to find the online chat with these latina babes.
Your approach to your vacation sounds great. While not as great looking as some of the other members I can sure talk up a good game, especially on line.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
About two months or so before I travel I start writing the chicas, go to amigos dot com or adultfriendfinders! It has worked for me all over the World!
In Thailand this year I bang this half black and half Thai chick, brings a smile to my face just thinking about her! A few years ago in Peru, dude I had so many interviews lined up, the chicas would call my apartment and I told my boys they ask for me I aint home!
For me the trick is this! My Espanol sucks, but I try and tey hard, and they eat that shit up! For the most part I'm a nice guy and treat them with respect pro or non! I'm 42 still dance and in good shape!
The clincher is I'm just myself, you like me or you step plain and simple cut and dry! Trust me for the most part they can tell who is real and who is not!
Colombia might be a third world nation, but human nature is human nature!
Isn't the gym you guys are talking about actually called "Body Tech"?
I could be wrong but that's what I thought it was....
The other gym NGP477 is referring to is closer to Hotel Caribe than Almirante.
If you are walking from Laguito, pass Hotel Caribe and proceed to Bocagrande. Pass the intersection after the park, with a drugstore on each corner, stay on the left (beach) side of the street. Before the next corner, take a left into the mini-mall and a then to the right go up the stairs. Much cheaper than the other gym, but no AC. Most of the chicas are in the cardio room, but it's close enough to give your work-out an inspirational lift :-)
Your right it is Body Tech, a Typo on my part!
My last trip I had a girl I saw walking on the street in Laguito for about 50,000 for one hour. The girl was dressed in tight sweat pants and looked 18. She had zero manners. When I let her into the apartment she went first to my frig looking for food. Then she smelled bad, so I suggested she take a shower. After the shower she went through my shave kit, grabbed my razor and started shaving her pussy hair without asking. Then she started asking about my Cruex aerosol can what it was. I was tired and not up to her rude behavior. Finally I got her in bed. She had a bad cold and would cough right in my face. Right, I have a bad cold now thanks to this scum. Then she did not want to do oral. Glad to get her out of the apartment.
Constrast this ho with a classy looking girl from LDV. You have time to watch and observe them in a night club atmostphere, well dressed, can talk with them for awhile before deciding, and they are all clean and look sharp. While they are free lancers also, they all know that they have to look sharp or they will not be chosen because of the competition.
Overall I prefer paying more for a classy young lass from a nightclub than a street girl.
Ngp ... yep ... sucks when a chica turns out nasty like that.
Speaking of LDV ... anybody been there recently?
I'm stopping in Cartagena for a few days next week ... was wondering how the quality / quantity of the chicas were.
Muchisimas gracias amigos!
I was at LDV 10 days ago on a Weds night and Thurs nite. Place does not get girls there until 11 pm. Ratio was good, about 4 girls to 1 guy. The Perla casino was redecorated next door, looks better, but no slot machines, maybe they will come in a few days.
[QUOTE=Rygin]Planning a trip to CTG just before Xmas. The Avianca web sight has the cheapest flight from Miami of $480.
Any advice form anyone who has booked through their web sight?[/QUOTE]Why don't you just call Avianca on their toll free number 1-800-284-2622 and ask about airfares? I just booked a flight MIA-CTG for $425.15 roundtrip, it was the best I could find. By the way, the return flight back to Miami is direct on Wednesdays and Sundays, other than that it is "via" Bogota.
Planning a 30 day trip to Columbia
I near help on where I should go 1st:
Cali, Mede, or Bogota.
Which is cheaper departing from Miami?
I am ending 11 yrs of travling to Brazil because I have mastered it. (North & South), experienced 4 Carnivals.
Is Columbia cheaper?
Can I rent a studio apartment in a working class neighborhood. How much per night.
I would like to visit small towns outside of Mede, Cali, and Bogo.
I am doing as much research & reading of this site as possible.
Can you please post the 5 star places to find 9's and 10's in Cali, Bogo & Mede.
Would you recommend long distance bus travel from different cities?
I see PUSSY SEEKER II seems 2 B one top dawg among others with experience, I can use the help PSII.
Please feel free to post helping advice anyone
Planning a 30 day trip to Columbia
I near help on where I should go 1st:
Cali, Mede, or Bogota.
Which is cheaper departing from Miami?
I am ending 11 yrs of travling to Brazil because I have mastered it. (North & South), experienced 4 Carnivals.
Is Columbia cheaper?
Can I rent a studio apartment in a working class neighborhood. How much per night.
I would like to visit small towns outside of Mede, Cali, and Bogo.
I am doing as much research & reading of this site as possible.
Can you please post the 5 star places to find 9's and 10's in Cali, Bogo & Mede.
Would you recommend long distance bus travel from different cities?
Can you help with info Sufer
Please feel free to post helping advice anyone
Npg477
That was a very nasty story about a street ho and another good reason why I stay from that type of trash. Hope a cold is all you caught there amigo.
When you think of it the chicas asking for $150K COP toda noche is not that bad of a deal and I usually smoke their weed too...LOL. Better deal for me. Next time I think I'll ask them to wash my socks and jocks in the shower. After all I've paid her for the night and I'll just tell her that's all part of the GFE... ;)
Getting the chica to supply the herb adds value!!!! I usually throw in a few pesos (they can get it WAY cheaper than you can) , but I also refuse to pay more than 120 for all night. I do give a few regalitos as a tip on top of that, but if the chica is THAT mercenary and hardened I'd rather find another one any way.
from what I have read, small amounts of any drug, including cocaine, are legal to possess in Colombia.
[QUOTE=Ngp477]from what I have read, small amounts of any drug, including cocaine, are legal to possess in Colombia.[/QUOTE]
NO, that is not true, that IT HAPPENS well...... Peter.
NOBODY has EVER told me ANY amount of coke is legal (not that it matters as I would stay FAR away from that anyway).
I have read in some places, and been told by people in the know, that small amounts of weed is "legal" (people sure smoke it VERY openly in some places in Cali & Medellin) but that Uribe (likely due to US pressure) wants to change that. As a foreigner, you may be ripe for extortion if caught so GREAT caution is certainly necessary if you choose to partake in Colombia. Also, despite the origin the quality is NOTHING like you can find in California, British Colombia or Amsterdam.
[QUOTE=Surfer] Also, despite the origin the quality is NOTHING like you can find in California, British Colombia or Amsterdam.[/QUOTE] Are you saying OUR pot SUCKS? LOL.
And yes, you can ruin your vacation if caught, and don`t even think about taking a SOUVENIR of this kind home.(Pot, Coke, Pills, Heroin, Etc.)
YOU guys get searched a lot more than us and get X-RAYS taken.
So forget about it an enjoy your trip.
No small amout is legal, that some people do it openly in some places is a different topic. Like they say, "Nothing is illegal if you don`t get caught...." Peter.
[url]http://cocaine.org/colombia/legal.html[/url]
20 grams of weed,
1 gram of cocaine,
1 gram of heroin
is legal, for personal use in Colombia!
I believe that NGP is correct. However, this may apply only to Colombian citizens.
I am going to be in Cartagena next weekend and my usual “guest-friendly” hotel in Bocagrande is all booked up with nothing available for me. I am going to be staying for the first time at the Hotel Caribe in Laguito. Do any of you know the guest policy at the Caribe – will I be able to bring my new friend(s) from LDV home with me with no hassles?
[QUOTE=Cachaca Lover]I am going to be in Cartagena next weekend and my usual “guest-friendly” hotel in Bocagrande is all booked up with nothing available for me. I am going to be staying for the first time at the Hotel Caribe in Laguito. Do any of you know the guest policy at the Caribe – will I be able to bring my new friend(s) from LDV home with me with no hassles?[/QUOTE]
I doubt that,for years the Hotel Caribe, has been known as a very traditional family oriented classy hotel. And UNLESS that has changed, I realy doubt they will let your girls in.Peter.
Caribe has never been guest friendly to my knowledge, plus it is quite pricey given the antiquated facilities. Its strong point is old world charm. Why not rent an apartment that will be cheaper, closer to LDV and will allow unlimited guests?
Peter: This is QUITE off topic, but, I must confess that yes the mota grown in my beloved Colombia is asi asi (other crops are more lucrative, and the best MJ must be tended to by those with advanced degrees in horticulture to eliminate male plants, prevent pollinization etc.) .
Aside from issue with the policia, associating with those in the drug trade is NOT really a sweell idea anywhere, let alone in Colombia. The way to do it is to find a chica that is a marijuanera and let HER get it/hold it.
I’d gladly stay in an apartment, but usual practice for me is to stay in a hotel and it would raise numerous eyebrows if I rented an apartment - that would not be a discreet move on my part. The Caribe was not my choice – my company booked me there because my usual place was unavailable for the three-day weekend. I will see what happens when I try to bring a guest up. Thanks for the tip. I guess the worst they would do would be to tell me no-go and I end up going upstairs by myself.
If your company is already paying for the hotel, you can still rent an apartment nearby. I rented an apartment in a block opposite the Da Pietro hotel. I can't remember the name, but it has an ice cream shop at the ground floor. It's on the other side of a little pedestrian area next to the Caribe. That way you've got an apt for chica's and room service if you get bored.
Approach the doorman of the block and ask. I'm sure they get a kicker from any rental, so they fall over backwards to please. It will cost around $40 a night and you are all set. If they don't have anything they will make some calls for you and get you something, again because they get some dinero.
Keep the valuables in your hotel, keep the condoms and lube in the apartment. Don't tell the chicas your in the hotel, take them to the apartment.
The Caribe is well located (walking distance to LDV!) but stuffy and traditional. If its early and LDV is quiet try the bar on the beach front, thats usually jumping, although its non monger related. Also the party buses for tourists stop there, so you can hop on and do a quick tour, have some drink, and a tout will make contact, although you don't have to take his girl - he'll show you the nightlife, try to hook you up with his preferred chica, but if you say no, he'll just ask for a couple of thou to cover his exes'.
Don't expect miracles and watch your back in Tripleterra or the Casa's, or anywhere with drunk, hungry Colombiano's!
You could also just take a taxi to "La Jaiba", it's a short time motel type place. 25,000 pesos for 2 hours. Taxi there and back approx 10,000 pesos each way. Adds about 20 dollars total to your cost, instead of 40.
Place is pretty nice too, many couples stop in and use the place to have a little fun.
Thanks for the suggestion of renting an apartment instead of testing out the hotel. Being in the rush that I was to get over to LDV as soon as possible last night, I didn’t have time to check out the rental options so figured I’d take my chances. I asked the bellman who showed me to my room if there would be any problem with bringing an amiga up later on and he told me no problem as long as she registered with her cedula at the front desk. So I went out pescando at LDV and ran into someone I had hooked up with a couple of months ago. We went back to the Caribe and sure enough, she left her cedula and came upstairs. Cost was about US$45 for a guest in the room, so there’s not much difference in cost between that and renting an apartment and the convenience of just going back to the hotel room can’t be beat. The only negative is the way the Caribe is set up, when you walk into the lobby there are very bright lights and what seems to be maybe a dozen staff hanging around, so if you have a problems with the Walk of Shame it can be intimidating, but it didn’t bother me. Also it’s a rather long walk from the front desk to where my room is, but that was ok too.
Funny thing about the chica-scouting phase at LDV – knowing that there might be some difficulty in bringing my amiga up to the room and also having seen what the lobby and front desk area looked like, I was on the lookout for a chica who was not wearing an outfit that was too obvious. Of course, pretty much all of them are dressed up super sexy at LDV, but some were wearing either impossibly short skits or barely-there tops so I avoided hooking up with any of them. My chica was wearing a not so obvious halter top and jeans, so I felt ok walking back into the hotel lobby.
So you can add the Caribe to your list of chica-friendly establishments if you can put up with the Walk of Shame part of it.
Cachaca Lover, Thanks for the update on Caribe.
What are the going rates at LDV right now for short term & long term. Last time I was told I overpaid. I don't want to make the same mistake again on my next trip coming up soon by contributing to the inflation.
Gracias
I only want an hour. For that I offer 100K(about US$43). Over 90% of the time that offer is accepted. If they don't want the 100, I politely thank them and walk. They will ask for 150 to 200.
All night should go for about 150K.
Beach and street girls go for 60-80K for an hour. You can find them in Centro and outside of the tourist areas for 40K for an hour. I have a friend who won't pay more than 20K. He once got a blow job at a love hotel for 5K including the room.
On the beach don't tip either Tony. The chicas tip them.
But then again, so are the prices charged by the LDV girls. 100K per hour is about $45. 100K should be for all night, and that is what most savy, Spanish speaking guys pay (though that was a year ago so my info might be dated).
You can rent a nice apartment in Laguito for all night for less than $45. Personally, I'd try and pocket the per diem the company paid and move to an apartment pronto. I also wonder how receptive Caribe would be if you brought more than one in at a time or switched chicas frequently or brought in one dresed like a puta.
Surfer –
I couldn’t agree with you more about the $45 guest fee – that’s why I’ll never stay at the Caribe again. It just turned out that I had to stay there this time. On the other hand, since it’s almost the same cost as an apartment, it makes no difference to me and its easier for me to go back to the hotel than taking the extra time to look for an apartment if I don’t really have to do that.
As I am sure you know, there is a wild variation in quality of LDV chicas. Some are downright skanky and some are super babes. My experience is that prices tend to vary with the quality of the chica and while much is negotiable depending on the hour of the night and the monetary need of the chica, I’d rather leave with a babe than a skank. So sometimes I don’t object to paying a bit more if its within reason. I think that 150,000 for all night for an LDV super babe is within reason.
Although I have been to Cartagena many many times, I had never gone to the Tripleterra because the LDV was always so good to me. Last night I decided to give the Tripleterra a road test. I was impressed with the chica quality and quantity and found a super babe to take back with me. At least last night, it rivaled the LDV. I think the atmosphere in Tripleterra is just a little bit more comfortable than LDV which I find to be kind of like a big gymnasium that has lots of available women milling around.
150K is IMHO too high, even for so called superbabes. In fact I'm not certain there are superbabes - one persons superbabe is anothers mud shark, and vice versa.
As soon as you pay 150k regularly it becomes the de-facto standard cost for all of us, and the "superbabes" start asking for 300k. Inside a couple of years we'll have the same prices as Costa Rica.
Its been my experience that if you agree to pay over the odds, the girl thinks you're a sap. You won't get a good service and she will keep cranking the demands up.
Don't calculate on the basis of "how many dollars is that" relate it it the local costs instead.
My tripleterra girl agreed to 80, demanded 200 in the room - i tossed her out, and she said 100k ok, so given the time of night etc i did the deed.
Someone said tripleterra was the place chicas who were banned for one reason or another from LDV went and certainly its old town location and dodgy Colombiano clientele seem to fit the bill.
[QUOTE=Biffy]150K is IMHO too high, even for so called superbabes. ...Its been my experience that if you agree to pay over the odds, the girl thinks you're a sap. You won't get a good service and she will keep cranking the demands up.
My tripleterra girl agreed to 80, demanded 200 in the room - i tossed her out, and she said 100k ok, so given the time of night etc i did the deed.
[/QUOTE]
I do alot of construction in the US as a general contractor. Whenever I get a sub that bids really low a "red flag" goes off. I know they are inexperienced or will bump me up later or walk off the job for more money, because they cannot do the job for that price.
I would rather accept a bid that is more normal from a respectable contractor than a low ball figure which will later not be honored. Sometimes I overpay because I know the sub is the best and reliable. I need to get the job done, not have problems.
Call it all capitalism, or call them all *****s...
I think as we all know ... just because you take a hot chica for 150k or 100k ... doesn't mean you're going to get good service.
If you're not "bonding" with a chica in the bar ... it'll be worse once you get to the room.
You can pay her 250k and she can still be a clock-watching, cold chica.
Obviously ... some guys ... most guys probably ... can't sit and chat in el espanol too much ... but really, would you want to be with the "hottest" chica in the place, and get mediocre service or be with another who really appreciates you and treats you like her long-lost novio just back from war?
All the price negotiating is muy aburrido (boring) ... personally ... If a chica starts talking $$, I split fast ... rapido ... and move on to a "cool" chica who I can bond with and be the novio (boyfriend) ... even if it's only for a night.
In the end ... I pay her what I think she deserves ... and most importantly .... NEVER NEVER pay in advance.
Suerte amigos!
very low incidence of aids in Colombia.
Usually I show the girls my scar from having my vasectomy and they want to get fucked bareback. If they are clean and want the real thing I usually accomodate them. The girls really appreciate a real cock inside and some even want the cum inside their pussy. More like a boyfriend experience for them and they keep wanting repeat sessions.
Ngp,
What do you do if a subcontractor bids 33% high?
Thing is there's a going rate, what irks me is the folk who allways cave in 33%-50%-100% too high.
We should point out on this forum the true rates. And yeah my spanish is limited, I try and judge it by the "bonding", how relaxed she is, how her body language is etc.
Next day i have a threesome with 2 "superbabes" (well I like slightly chubby with big titties so i;m in heaven) and they charged 60k each if I remember. No rush lots of fun.
So I guess it evens out.
Ricker –
Just for the record, I have more than 25 years experience in South America with about half of that in Colombia and I am fully bi-lingual, including having a good amount of Colombian slang. Chatting up the chica before making a decision is always part of the game and I never leave until I have done some of that bonding you mention. Even so, good conversation and bonding in the club doesn’t always mean that you won’t get less than expected results when you get her into your room. Those are just some of my observations.
I like Ngp477’s bidding analogy. I do my share of haggling when we start talking about take-out price and have had times when I insisted on 100k. Usual result – they walk away and that’s that. Fine. But I think I can tell when it makes sense to go up to 150k when I need to.
I guess each of us has our own style for doing this kind of thing.
Actually, the prevalence of AIDS is higher in Colombia than the U.S., so you should feel just as comfortable barebacking prostitutes in the USA.
Also be aware there is a report on another similar mongering website, of a documented LDV girl who is HIV positive. The description was vague enough to fit many of the girls there. (Cute, curly hair, etc.)
You'll probably still dodge the AIDS bullet. I'd be way more worried about herpes, etc. You're really playing Russian Roulette there, no matter how clean you think they look on the outside...
I am nearly finished reading the 900 or so reports the past few years on this thread. Thanks for the fantastic insights you have provided!
Here is my expected itenary:
Cartenega: Nov. 20-26
Medellin: Nov. 26 - Dec 5
Cartenega: Dec 5 - Dec 8
San Andreas Island: Dec 8 - Dec 15
Cartenega: Dec 15 - Dec 18 or 21
I am 50 1/2 years old but many people tell me I look 50. However my friends tell me I look 51 and behave like I am 20. What do they know!
If any one would like to do some mongering together please let me know. Also, if anyone wishes to split a deluxe penthouse for some time I could be game for that. PM me please. Thanks.
I agree, herpes is more of a concern with my lifestyle. However genital warts also prevalent. They can be burned off relatively easy and (from what I read) though the male is not as threatned you will carry the virus and can be more problematic in the future as immune system WILL become compromised later from age. Not certain, perhaps picked up from working girl in Rio. Seemingly gone now.
There is a prescription cream called Aldara that works as a suppressant. I will use every few days, let it soak around the base of Dale's (my middle name) shaft for several hours few times a week (just where the condom rolles up on the shaft during vigourous sex) maybe will protect from a similar genital wart (HPV) in the future.
I also take a few Valtrex or Zorivax capsules, bite off 50 mg a few days a week, hope it acts as a body prophalactic. Also load up on Horny Goat Weed and Steel Libido rather then V and Le V these days. Also take a herbal immune system supplement when feeling punchy.
From Idaho must start flying day before (5:15 pm) day before to be in Miami for a Sunday 1"00pm check-in and 3:00pm departure and get Aviana Sunday and Wednesday (only) fare of $440.00 RT to Cartenega. Alternative (for me) fly Delta and stay all night in Bogatoa, that's not appealing on the end. I hope Miami has sleep lockers in the airport but probably only Japs could be that practicle.
Exactly what do the touts sell??? Besides sandals, table clothes, wood carved crap, sunglasses, and massage. Any earings and flashy wrist watches??? My clients love that cheap crap. I hand them out with their taxes and my bill and it somehow ($3-$5) eases their pain. Ha, ha.
Hopefully from RIo I learned how to read a taxi and it's driver. Are they about the same?? Sounds like the Tourist police will be less in my face, compared to Copacabanna. Hummm, I am missing Samba and memories of Bossanova playing with a glass of wine/caprihinna/water, carrioca, hope I find something similar in Colombia.
Thanks Mongers, smile. Z
anyone in town on Sunday night? PM me if you want to meet at LDV
Avianca requires a three-hour advance check-in in Miami.
Thanks Tom 33, I'll keep that in mind on return flight as well.
they say 3 hours, but actually it is only 1 hour before they close out their manifest. I usually arrive an hour and a half before the flight, just to be safe.
[QUOTE=Zidaho]Exactly what do the touts sell??? Besides sandals, table clothes, wood carved crap, sunglasses, and massage. Any earings and flashy wrist watches??? My clients love that cheap crap. I hand them out with their taxes and my bill and it somehow ($3-$5) eases their pain. Ha, ha.[/QUOTE]
Zidaho I find touts selling sandals and massage and other goods extremely annoying. They don't just leave you alone, especially when you are on the beach. Women will try to rub lotion onto your arm when you tell them to fuck off and after they repeat "demostracion" a 100 times you bark at them eventually she will leave and you will find yoursefl approached by another one. They flow continously. Some sell shrimp with lime - they taste pretty good but expensive. We could not find cheap shrimp in CTG, strange considering there is a big shrimp farm and a packaging facility in the city. Large shrimp much cheaper in chinatowns in US. On the positive note, there is a great steak place in Laguito, very inexpensive. I forget the name now.
Usually an hour and a half is plenty. However, there are exceptions.
I have a tall sexy (USA) red head GF who is Bi and loves cock. She particularly enjoys two or three men and another woman at the same time. She is almost as much of a sex **** as I am. We frequently swing together in the USA. I told her I want to visit Colombia for a week and she wants me to take her. We are arriving around December 10 for about 10 days.
Are there any opportunities for the kind of sex we have in mind. One of her fantasy's is to be a hooker for a couple of days and bring many men back to the room. I think we will probably get an apartment. I like watching her fuck. How difficult will it be to get 2-3 Colombian men to bone her while I watch? Is there a place we can go that gives her the opportunity to offer herself up to gringo mongers? What are the chances of finding a couples sex party or an full blown orgy?
Any advise would be appreciated.
Thanks,
RW
Humm, is it practicle to hire someone whose job is solely to keep the touts away for a couple of hours a day??
Brainstorming here now:
Temporary fence, surround myself with chairs, body guard, surround myself with beautiful Colombianas who know karate, dig a moat around my chair, threaten them with pepper spray, hire Tony or Alex to talk them death, post a sign that says NO TOUTS, set up my own Tout Scam, try to sell them Amway, require them to fill out a two page form before I consider buying their merchandise, . . . geezz there has to be something that could help keep these touts away.
Maybe all the above? Z
Hummm,
How about arming a couple of kids (paying them 5,000 pesos each) with those sound blaster cylinders and paying them to guard me while I relax with plugs/or ear buds in. When the Touts approach the kids warn them to stay back, and if the warning is not heeded they blast them with the sound blaster until they leave. That might be kind of entertaining!
Don't have to get so complicated ... just IGNORE them and they'll leave ya alone.
If you decide to buy some crap from them ... always pay with exact change ... they hand out out fake money like it's monopoly money ... speaking from experience.
Disfrute amigos!
It's all available in CTG. You can get as many Colombianos as you want to nail her while you watch. If she's hot enough, I'm sure you could pedal her at LDV and make a few pesos. Might even take a crack myself(I leave for a couple of weeks in the States on Dec. 14). And there is no shortage of chicas to join in.
Z - you just go where the touts aren't(e.g. the beach in Castillo Grande, Isla Tierra Bomba, any barrio outside of the tourist zone).
Zidaho:
You and I met at the bar in L’uomos maybe about 2 years ago or so. You had your eyes on a tall think dark haired carioca who you had nailed a couple of days before, and I ended up going off with a cute blond who we had just watched doing a strip show.
I have been a regular traveler to Colombia for over 10 years – I spend more time in Colombia than almost anywhere else although I did get into the Rio scene in the past few years. I know the places in Bogota very well, Cartagena very well, Cali a little less well, and Medellin and San Andres not at all.
Are you sure you don’t want to consider a stop in Bogota while you’re in Colombia? Cartagena is interesting, but I think Bogota has it beat – although I'm sure you’ll hear differing opinions from the people here. I was just in Cartagena and Bogota the past few weeks – in Cartagena I hit the LDV, Tripleterra, Tu Candela, Club Pleyboy, and Club Venus. I had a limited time in Bogota and only was able to go to the newly redesigned Casanova. The Casanova was the best single night selection I have ever seen at any time in Colombia – at 11pm the ratio had to be about 15 chicas per every guy, and about 13 of each set of 15 were too gorgeous for words. I was sitting there paralyzed until I could make a decision. I can’t say if its like that every night of the week, but last week it was truly the best eye-candy store I have ever been to. As a contrast, I also went next door to the Exstasis Club which sucked big time, so consider that as well.
In Cartagena, the LDV was pretty good and the Tripleterra was a bit better on the nights I was there. The rest of the places were a waste of time, especially Club Venus which wins my Skanky Club of the Year Award. If I can offer up here my analysis of why I think Bogota is not necessarily better than Cartagena but at least worth a night or two on your itinerary –
IMHO - and others may disagree – the best looking women in Colombia are calenas (from Cali) and paisas (from Medellin and the surrounding areas), followed closely by cachacas (from Bogota) and santanderianas (mostly from Bucaramanga). The costenas (from the Caribbean coast) just don’t do it for me in general. So in Cartagena, you get a lot of costenas working the clubs, but you also get a variety of women from other parts of the country. Many of them are actually tourists who are trying to pay for their vacation in Cartagena with a little night work.
By contrast, in the Bogota clubs, you get the beautiful cachacas but also get a good variety of calenas and paisas there too. I swear to you that my eyes were just popping out of my head in Casanovas, which is a place I generally stay out of but figured I’d go since it had been a while since the last time I was there. Also, Lido’s in Bogota, although on the expensive side, gets some beautiful chicas working there. La Mansion is another house, even more expensive but very exclusive. Abejitas massage place is a good place to stop in for an afternoon delight with some very nice looking masajistas working there. And the outcall services in Bogota are much much better than Cartagena – there are a bunch of services to call in Bogota – I have tried several of them and can recommend some that are better than others – while as far as I can tell, there is one in Cartagena with very limited selection.
Hope this helps you plan your trip. I appreciated your advice when I met you in Rio so I am hoping I can repay the favor a little.
I remember. We were at the bar at Luomo, you said Colombianas were about the prettiest women on the planet. You CL, are one of the reasons I am going to Colombia next month.
When we met I was just starting to fall in love with Raphaela (Luomo Girl). I have been seeing her a couple months a year for the past 2.5 years. Actually Raphaela went off to Europe couple years ago then to London (for a second time) this last May to dance, she met a Brit who has a house in Rome and is now living there, she basicaly dumped me, decided not to come to the USA on the fiance visa I had been working on, and tells me she married him about a month ago. Gezzz, I really loved that Brasilada!! I suppose now it worked out best, though admitedly CL, I've never been so dumb struck and depressed from falling in love with a woman. Ha, ha. That was a new experience for me, such is life.
CL I will make changes to my intenary as you suggest. Please let me know ASAP if we can do a little mongering together in Bogota. Thanks for the help, your friend!! Z
IMHO Lido was the worst ripoff joint I have EVER seen in Colombia (not that I stayed long). Casanova and Extasis are hit or miss, but you can find gems there for reasonable cost. I have not spent much time mongering in BOG though, typically just one night here or there while on my way elsewhere) and perhaps need to give it another try. The value is there too, but NOT in ZonaNorte. Clubs in Centro/La Candelaria area have some hotties, but NOT for the faint of heart (especially at night).
That being said, CL you really should spend more time in Medellin & Cali. IMHO both are SO much better than CTG or BOG. I brought a hottioe from SAntander when I went to San Andres so cannot comment, though I have read a couple recent reports saying there is more (and better) action than everybody THINKS.
RW: I like that same kind of stuff, but IMHO it is MUCH harder to arrange in Colombia (a conservative, Catholic, country) than in Brasil (or even Peru). WAY less Colombianas are bi than Brasileras. My "lifestyle" friend who went to the swingers clubs in Cali said it was pathetic; hideously old and ugly patrons, NOTHING like in Brasil or Miami. I will PM you.
[QUOTE=Zidaho]I remember. We were at the bar at Luomo, you said Colombianas were about the prettiest women on the planet. You CL, are one of the reasons I am going to Colombia next month.
When we met I was just starting to fall in love with Raphaela (Luomo Girl). I have been seeing her a couple months a year for the past 2.5 years. Actually Raphaela went off to Europe couple years ago then to London (for a second time) this last May to dance, she met a Brit who has a house in Rome and is now living there, she basicaly dumped me, decided not to come to the USA on the fiance visa I had been working on, and tells me she married him about a month ago. Gezzz, I really loved that Brasilada!! I suppose now it worked out best, though admitedly CL, I've never been so dumb struck and depressed from falling in love with a woman. Ha, ha. That was a new experience for me, such is life.
CL I will make changes to my intenary as you suggest. Please let me know ASAP if we can do a little mongering together in Bogota. Thanks for the help, your friend!! Z[/QUOTE]
Many of us have been there before. With time, such wounds will heal. You will become much more hardened once you get over her. Trust me.
Hey Z –
Shoot, I would love to hang out with you in Bogota, but its not a stop on my December travel itinerary. I was just there and probably won’t be back again until sometime in January. I’m very sorry we won’t be there at the same time – that would have been a lot of fun.
You have my deepest sympathy about Raphaela. I had a similar experience not long ago with a beautiful Colombian woman who I fell in love with. She ended up marrying someone in the US. We are still good friends and write to each other all the time. She is not very happy with her situation because the good life he promised her ain’t what she’s living today. Since I am the only other person she knows in the US, I have become her sounding board and we write and talk several times a week now. But its not the same as when I had very strong feelings for her, and the depression I went through when I realized it wasn’t going to work out as I hoped it would.
So all things considered, all that is the BEST reason for you to go to Colombia and have yourself a blast.
Sometime soon, I will try to write you up some reviews of the places I know in Bogota and Cartagena. I feel a certain responsibility to make sure you have a good time in Colombia. That is, I feel a certain responsibility up to a certain point – information – yes, dinero – no.
Have fun down there buddy and I will be in touch with you soon.
Surfer –
Lido is not that different in price from Casanova and Extasis if you do your negotiating right. What I have found is that all of the zona norte clubs – Casanova, Extasis, Copacabana, and Lancaster – are all hit or miss and it seems that they go through distinct phases where one is hot and one is very cold. There have been times that each one of those clubs was red hot for several months at a time, and other times when I would go in and drink my Club Colombia as quickly as possible to get the heck out of there. There was a long period of time when Lido was THE place for finding the best looking chicas in any of the zona norte clubs. I haven’t been back there in about a year because there is someone there I don’t really want to run into just yet, so I am laying low for now. Maybe 2 years ago, Extasis was the best zona norte club around and Casanova was just overpriced and not very interesting. But my experience last week at Casanova guarantees that I’ll return next time to check it out again. And as I am sure you already know, Lancaster is an after hours club and doesn’t get hopping until the other clubs close and the chicas start heading over there.
There are also the discos in the zona rosa that might be interesting for Zidaho to check out for non-, semi- and full-pro action. Charlottes, Mister Babilla’s, and the various clubs on the west side of the zona rosa pedestrian walkway may have some interesting possibilities, especially on weekends.
On thing is for sure though Surfer – I stay OUT of the centro after dark and don’t’ recommend any one go there, especially on their own. I speak fluent Spanish and I am not a wussy – I’ve had rifles pointed at me and have been in all kinds of tight situations in lots of different countries in South and Central America. I don’t’ take needless chances, and going to the centro after dark is one of those. More power to you if you have the balls to do that, but Ill stay in my nice safe uptown clubs.
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Thanks for the info. She'll probably charge 100 p. at night and 50-75 during the day. She's pretty excited about the trip. She likes the Rio fantasy I frequently tell her, about Terma Solarium lady in Rio steam sauna (on ladies night) has guys lined up in front and rear taking turns as she services them. I think she has potential as a Parttreff Girl, or, an FKK woman. Which is where I will probably take her in the Spring, anyway she gets off on that one.
She also likes watching me with other women, so I was thinking we could go out together and each pick up a partner to bring back to the apartment. Of course I'll probably have to pay for mine so maybe my secretary can get paid for her time as well. I'll have to keep her ass trained the next couple of months, she loves DP and prefers to have her orgasms with two men inside her and one in her mouth. I probably shouldn't have said that, I know it freaks alot of men out, to be within any proximity to another male, particularly on this board.
However, she and I frequently swing with many couples we are actually pretty tight with a number of the lifestyle groups in our area (she's actually my executive secretary) so when we are out of town we pose as a married couple, I bought her a big cubic zirconium ring so she can act like my **** wife. She really loves playing the role, even though we are just F**K buddies. She has a boyfriend in another City couple hours away if he knew what she was up to he would freak. I like being in bed with her when they talk on the phone. I also enjoy talking to my straight girlfriends after 5:00 while she is on her hands and knees giving me blow job. Anyway, the point is we are both a couple of s**ts. Any mongers in Colombia during this time who like group sex/orgies please PM.
Be safe.
RW
What a great report, very helpful, almost better than money! If I could I would move that report to Bogota thread as reading there the past couple of hours, and your suggestions have convinced me I want to check that place out. Thanks! Z
Can someone help me with this? I want to establish a cell phone number before I arrive in Cartegena. Is there a way to do that from the USA on my new unlocked GSM phone?? I could email and Wire money with a copy of my passport to Juan Ventura. He is handling my apartment rental. So the question is can a cell phone number be established in Colombia prior to arrival?? If so is it relatively safe to do so??? Thanks
I don't think that you can do anything by proxy, Z. In order to get a cell phone you must present your original passport in person, give them two photos, and a fingerprint. I'm guessing that you must do the same for a sim card.
Juan may have a rental cell phone available.