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[QUOTE=Qubei]Mistakenly posted this in the Shanghai hotels thread so here I go again :)
First off I would like to thank all posters in this forum. I have found some very useful information.
I am going to work in Shanghai for some time and wonder if and in that case were I can find good service levels like I’m used to in FKK clubs in Germany. I’m thinking about BBBJ and high possibility for DFK, but also the option to finish CIM. Are saunas like SH and World Plaza my best bet?[/QUOTE]
You won't find anything resembling a German FKK, but with respect to service you will be pleased. Find a good sauna you like, and become a regular. You will get more thorough and complete service than you ever experienced in an FKK, although the prospect of DFK is slim. Excellent massage, full body wash and body slide massage, BBBJ (sometime with CIM), and excellent covered fucking is standard. You can hit bars for takeout, and will learn to ferret out good service providers for LT at less than sauna costs, but it is hit and miss.
The most similar experience to an FKK will be KTV, with respect to having lots of eye candy to choose from.
But, nothing will be like an FKK. Different, but excellent in its own way.
For those unfamiliar with FKKs, a trip to Germany is well worth the time/expense.
[QUOTE=Qubei]Mistakenly posted this in the Shanghai hotels thread so here I go again :)
First off I would like to thank all posters in this forum. I have found some very useful information.
I am going to work in Shanghai for some time and wonder if and in that case were I can find good service levels like I’m used to in FKK clubs in Germany. I’m thinking about BBBJ and high possibility for DFK, but also the option to finish CIM. Are saunas like SH and World Plaza my best bet?[/QUOTE]
First of all, I love FKK in Germany. I got hooked on it a few years ago and go every time I am in Europe. My favorite is OASE near Frankfurt.
I agree with Ebauche. The best chance you have for CIM is at a sauna. There are also a few low end BBBJCIM BBS in Shanghai where this service is available in small cubicles for 100-130 RMB.
I suppose that you could turn KTV into a semi-FKK experience in terms of multiple pops in the course of an evening, but it could get expensive. You could go to a KTV in a hotel and rent one hotel room for your action. Many of the hotels will have a special ST rate for KTV patrons. Pick out of a line-up, have a few drinks and then go to the room for the deed. You could repeat this as many times as you like. Although not guaranteed, the chance of DFK with KTV girls is higher than other alternatives.
Just my POV.
OAH
[QUOTE=ApplePolish]
I am coming back again for some work in January but I also wanted to take a few days off and travel to Beijing, see the Forbidden City and the great wall. Since I can only travel for 5-6 days from 25 Jan onwards which I understand is festival time. Are there any do’s and don’t for festival time? Any tips would be much appreciated.
Thanks,
Applepolish
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Applepolish,
Travel during CNY is a nightmare. There are masses of people everywhere you go and Beijing is one of most popular and thus, most crowded destinations. I suggest you get out of dodge and leave the country during this period. I do it every year.
Just my POV.
OAH
[QUOTE=Qubei]Mistakenly posted this in the Shanghai hotels thread so here I go again :)
First off I would like to thank all posters in this forum. I have found some very useful information.
I am going to work in Shanghai for some time and wonder if and in that case were I can find good service levels like I’m used to in FKK clubs in Germany. I’m thinking about BBBJ and high possibility for DFK, but also the option to finish CIM. Are saunas like SH and World Plaza my best bet?[/QUOTE]Start with World plaza #5... DFK, CIM is in the standard!
[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]First of all, I love FKK in Germany. I got hooked on it a few years ago and go every time I am in Europe. My favorite is OASE near Frankfurt.
OAH,
I had the pleasure of visitng Oase last week, and the only bad thing was not being able to use the outdoor venues. Even with the reduced numbers of girls, it was extraordinary! I recommend you try Villa Vertigo if you ever get to the NW part of Germany. A really great locale, kind of a cross between a big (Oase) club and a small more intimate FKK.
Thanks for the info about trying a KTV experience, I haven't done that yet, but look forward to 2009 for many new China experiences!
Hey guys,
I have been reading through your forums and have found them very helpful so far. I will be coming to Shanghai around Jan 13th and be staying for 3 months. I was hoping that one of you more experienced gentlemen would be willing to meet up with me and show me around? I am from the US, the Philadelphia area and have a good time around here.
I will be in a serviced apartment for most of my visit. I would love to have someone show me some good spots to visit.
Thanks guys.
[QUOTE=Qubei]Mistakenly posted this in the Shanghai hotels thread so here I go again :)
First off I would like to thank all posters in this forum. I have found some very useful information.
I am going to work in Shanghai for some time and wonder if and in that case were I can find good service levels like I’m used to in FKK clubs in Germany. I’m thinking about BBBJ and high possibility for DFK, but also the option to finish CIM. Are saunas like SH and World Plaza my best bet?[/QUOTE]
Try Sacrosa in Pudong. The girls I've tried go for BBBJ and CIM with no problems. I think they also let you have two pops.
Hallo,
NO tipp for DFK/BBBJ or CIM in Nanjing Road or near to?
I travel soon, would be nice to get an answer.
Best regards,
Matthi
[QUOTE=Ndestrukts]Hey guys,
I have been reading through your forums and have found them very helpful so far. I will be coming to Shanghai around Jan 13th and be staying for 3 months. I was hoping that one of you more experienced gentlemen would be willing to meet up with me and show me around? I am from the US, the Philadelphia area and have a good time around here.
I will be in a serviced apartment for most of my visit. I would love to have someone show me some good spots to visit.
Thanks guys.[/QUOTE]I have used Dragon D in Shanghai for several years now and he can put you on 90 different menus 90 days of your stay in Shanghai.
[QUOTE=Matthi Fre]Hallo,
NO tipp for DFK/BBBJ or CIM in Nanjing Road or near to?
I travel soon, would be nice to get an answer.
Best regards,
Matthi[/QUOTE]This is probably one of the worst places to go for fun in Shanghai.
Along the Nanjing Rd you will be accosted by many male and female touts who will promise to get you beautiful girl, etc. MOnergs rule number 1: Do not go with touts.
You will be much better off to just take the subway from Nanjing to Pudong where you can find many BBS, Sauna, etc.
There is plenty of good info already posted if you do some homework and read the forum.
Have fun - play safe.
Thanks for the feedback guys, will report back when I visit.
Although I've been actively reading the forum, it's been ages since I've last written a report. Mainly its because I've been mongering at the usual spots that have been mentioned and re-mentioned over and over again.
Last night, I revisited a sauna that was posted a long time ago. It's located on Nanjing West Road, on the same side as but 1 block west of Jingan Temple/City Plaza (jiu guang) Shopping Mall. So if you are coming out of city plaza, walk towards the right and go across the street (either via the underpass or the other side of the street). About half way down the block you will see a sign for massage, that leads into a driveway. (Note that there is actually 2 places, both with signs. The one I went to was the second one, so you will need to walk past the first sign). At the front of the driveway is a big restaurant. At the end of the driveway there will be an elevator on your left hand side. Take it up to the 5th floor.
It's probably been at least a year or more since I went there last. They renovated and now offers soapy in most of their rooms. In the room, the girl even shows you a standard menu (albeit in chinese) of all the different procedures she will perform, kind of like a checklist so they don't get lazy!
So pretty much everything you would get from other places, including red rope.
Selection was decent, more or less the same as the other places.
780 for soapy/ 700 for dry.
Have FUN!
BJ
Interesting. Thanks for the data. I would like to point out was other members stated in various forums. Sometimes you can find SW/WG in the lobby or the bar. I was staying at the Hilton Visiting a person that had some childcare and ex-husband issues so I couldn't stay with her but here is what I wanted to say. She was not ID checked. Also, the first night at the Hilton I was alone and due to the jet lag I wondered down to the Lobby at 2AM lookign for something to eat and I found Girl she wanted $1000 RMB however I got her for $250 RMB after all there was nobody there. She wanted cab fare after we were done I said no way. She was not a spinner but was okay probably 6 in face, 6/7 body, and 6/7 in the bed. I don't remember my name but I was shocked to find a SW sitting in the lobby looking for business in the Hilton.
I do agree it is best stay away from Hotel chains unless you have to stay for business or frequent flyer points. I had a special Delta MQM Bonus deal so I stayed there for this time only.
[QUOTE=Vista Sushi]The Hilton, respecting the rule of law, although that doesn't appear to be important in most aspects of Chinese policing, was correct in asking for her ID. They would simply log it in their system. From what I understand they report this data to the Police, since everyone has to register their whereabouts in China. For hotel stayers, they do it at check-in by passing over our passports. For long-term folks, they have to register with the police regularly, which is an annoying process.
For her, I'm sure the implications were that she would be put into the database associated with a hotel room of a foreigner as yourself. After a few times (with others), assuming the best of the Shanghai PD, there would be a knock at the hotel door and she'd get arrested. Because it is China, a couple hundred RMB would make this go away. I can't imagine you getting caught up, but it could be embarrassing none-the-less.
To Avoid this altogether, do not stay at a western-branded hotel. Make sure to stay clear of executive floors that involve a second layer of scrutiny (or a swipe of the card to get in). Although the Hilton is good for WG action (and close proximity to SH), it is also under more scrutiny then most. I'd suggest staying at a Jin Jiang hotel (research will reveal others). I've had good luck with them. From what I have experienced most have FS saunas. Many also have KTVs when you go 3 star. So, although you don't get the meat market that is Huashan Lu, you can get it in other ways. And likely cheaper.
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[QUOTE=JohnJohnJr2000]Interesting. Thanks for the data. I would like to point out was other members stated in various forums. Sometimes you can find SW/WG in the lobby or the bar. I was staying at the Hilton Visiting a person that had some childcare and ex-husband issues so I couldn't stay with her but here is what I wanted to say. She was not ID checked. Also, the first night at the Hilton I was alone and due to the jet lag I wondered down to the Lobby at 2AM lookign for something to eat and I found Girl she wanted $1000 RMB however I got her for $250 RMB after all there was nobody there. She wanted cab fare after we were done I said no way. She was not a spinner but was okay probably 6 in face, 6/7 body, and 6/7 in the bed. I don't remember my name but I was shocked to find a SW sitting in the lobby looking for business in the Hilton.
I do agree it is best stay away from Hotel chains unless you have to stay for business or frequent flyer points. I had a special Delta MQM Bonus deal so I stayed there for this time only.[/QUOTE]Never had an issue bringing a girl back to the Hilton, although I have seen a few guys stopped with a girl, and all they do is take her ID. I don't think you have to worry about the police knocking on your door.
One thing you can do if you are stopped, if it is before 1am, just tell they security guy you are both going to the Penthouse bar, on the top floor, then simply stop on your own floor.
[QUOTE=Rbaajl]I have used Dragon D in Shanghai for several years now and he can put you on 90 different menus 90 days of your stay in Shanghai.[/QUOTE]How do I get in touch with Dragon D? I just booked flights will be coming in Jan 13 leaving in April.
As someone new to Shanghai, I have been reading the forum looking for information on happy ending massage places, particularly those that offer prostate massage, mostly out of curiosity. I've had the opportunity to try out a few places mentioned in the forum -- including one listed way back in the archives. Although I don't have much new to offer, I at least wanted to try and give something back in thanks to the other fine individuals who left information before me.
PEACOCK MASSAGE (孔雀养生馆)
Peacock Massage has been mentioned numerous times previously, and I had the opportunity to try out two of the four branches listed on their card. Their basic package (at both locations) is a 288 RMB, 90-minute "aromatherapy" oil massage with HE. Some notes on both locations: one recommended, one not so much.
PEACOCK MASSAGE: XUHUI BRANCH, No. 1449 Xieshi Road (徐汇店,斜士路1449号)
This is the one located near the Damuqiao Subway Station (大木桥站) on Line 5 (the loop line). About a 10 minute walk. Go north on Damuqiao Road (大木桥路), turn left at Xieshi Road (斜士路). Peacock is on the north side of the road, about mid-block to Xiaomuqiao Road (小木桥路), distinguished by none other than a flashing peacock.
This branch has received good reports from others in the forum, and I can't disagree. As already written, the front desk is on the main floor, and simply point at the menu asking for the 288 RMB option. (I believe the two-girl option is 388.) You are led downstairs to the massage rooms. I was put in one of a group of three single rooms, all of which share a shower. It seemed that the girls coordinated things so you don't run into another customer while you're in the shower, but it wasn't too busy while I was there.
As previously discussed, there are no "modesty shorts" given. Simply strip down, and the girl brings you to the shower room, towels you off, and asks you to lie down so they can work on your back. I had #36, who gave a very good massage, pleasant to talk to (I speak Chinese, so I'm not sure about her English). The first half is a good back massage, which turns into a massage that focuses on your ass and little brother. What I found interesting is when she sits on the table, and then puts your legs over hers, so that she has access to your whole lower body. It's quite exposed, but the massage is very pleasant. Eventually you are flipped over, there is more massage which leads to a happy ending. You can then wash up and go on your merry way.
None of this is new to the board, but a few comments:
1) Based on previous reports, I had expected that there would be some sort of prostate massage, which should involve inserting the finger into the rectum. This was not offered during the massage, but I get the feeling there are some different definitions of what comprises "prostate massage" by other commentators.
2) I was not hit up for any tip, and did see the red sign (in Chinese) that said that the girls may not ask for tips. But, since it is the new year, and I liked my masseuse, I gave her a good tip anyway.
3) I found the facilities to be quite nice, clean, and comfortable. Despite being freezing outside, the room was warm.
4) Would I repeat? Definitely. I know there are different opinions out there about going for massage / HJ versus sauna, but personally, I really enjoy having the option of going for a nice massage followed by HE. Just a different experience than going to the saunas.
PEACOCK MASSAGE: JING'AN BRANCH, No. 750 Shetiao Road, Second Floor (静安店,佘姚路750号二楼)
Since no prostate massage was offered by my masseuse at the Xuhui branch, I decided to try the Jing'an branch a few days later. It is on Shetiao Road (佘姚路) just west of Wuning South Road (武宁南路), about a 15 minute walk north of Jing'an Subway Station (静安地铁站) on Line 2. This one is marked by the same flashing peacock as the other branch, on the north side of the road not far from Wuning South Road. You climb a set of stairs, turn left, and enter into the main office. The same 288 RMB deal is offered here.
The same basic massage was offered, however I would not recommend this branch over the Xuhui location. I thought the room was much dirtier, and it was also drafty. There were big spots in the carpet and no shower in the room. The masseuse (No. 10) gave a decent massage, and was very friendly and talkative, but I felt that this took away somewhat from the mood - especially the giggling. Even more, towards the end, she asked me if I would give her a tip for the HE. This, as is my understanding, is part of the package. I had been planning on giving her a tip anyway, but didn't like being asked for one during the massage.
JINLIN YANGSHENGTANG MASSAGE (金林养生堂)
This place was mentioned way back in the archives as being a "men's health center" that offered prostate massage. It is in Jing'an District, about a 10 minute walk from the station, at No. 484 Xikang Road (静安区西康路484号), just south of the intersection with Kangding Road (康定路), on the east side of the road. You have to go up a few steps, and there is an English sign in red letters that say "Massage salon".
There is a whole menu of options, all with entertaining English translations. The hostess said that the 100-minute sexual health massage was the most "shufu" (comfortable), offered at 338. (My memory fails me a bit, but I believe this was the price, +/- 10 RMB.) The massage area is in the basement, nicely maintained and decorated. The masseuse (No. 12) led me to my room, and directed me to wash up in the in-room shower. Again, no need for modesty here, given what they are about to do to you.
Similar to Peacock, you lie down, and they start with a basic oil massage, and my masseuse did a very nice job. I particularly like it when the put the hot towel on your back, and the girl presses her knees into your lower back.. that get's the pressure out. Also, like Peacock, she puts you in this position where she is sitting on the table, and your legs are up in the air. You are flipped over, there's more massage, and then a long, drawn out massage leading to the HE.
One thing I found about Jinlin Massage is that the girl did a great job of bringing you close, and then backing down. It was really quite something. Also, while there was some penetration, it was not what I would consider true prostate massage. There is one prostate massage option on the menu for about 45 min at a cost of 200 RMB or less, so it might be interesting to try sometimes.
Overall comments:
1) Peacock @ Xuhui was really good, and cheaper, but overall I prefer the Jinlin Massage. It's more expensive, but the facilities were very nice, the massage was good, the girl very friendly, and overall a relaxing experience.
2) Discount cards are available at Jinlin. She said that if you buy a 1,000 RMB card, you get a 20% discount (or 80% of the original price). There's a bigger discount if you buy the 2,000 RMB card.
Hope this may be helpful to someone out there, and thanks to all those who post reports. Happy new year to all!
Gao Xing
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Firstly I have to say a big thank you to the guys that run this forum. Also many thanks to those that post their experiences. It makes coming to a new city such an easy experience for those of us that follow in their footsteps.
I'm newly arrived in Shanghai and had done my study before coming here using this board and RTFF. I was determined to find the legendary JJ's for my first shanghai massaji experience. Thanks to mike17 for his clear directions. I'm sure I found the place no problem at all. The problem was that when I made it up to the 5th floor the place was a building site. (I must have missed that post.)
Anyway plan B was to go to the shanghai hotel. Which again I found easliy following the directions contained herein.
WOW!
What a wonderful experience. From the scrub down, to the pedicure I tried it all. And finally when I thought I could take the anticipation no longer I got to meet the girls. I chose #29, an absolute stunner. Tall, and "big boned" she's not a skinny chinese girl but she's not at all fat. And with a mind boggling set of natural DD's she blew me away. In fact I just can't get her tit's out of my head. The massage was cursory, but the red rope was intriguing, and if I hadn't been so busy DATY then I would have been able to saviour her breasts more. (I got her cell phone number. Is it likely that she would be available for a take out? I think she gave it to me so I could check whether or not she was working when I went back)
So thank you thank you and thank you for a memorable introduction to Shanghai. I can't wait for more fun.
WM.
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[QUOTE=True Love 1]Do any of you know the saunas where the girls are on the younger side?
(I mean under 20, no laws breaking or something.)
Thanks,
TL1[/QUOTE]Actually I'd be quite interested in this as well.
Does anyone have particular knowledge of younger aged girls?
Seems like most places are older.
Hello everybody,
I am particularly interested in places, BBS, apt girls with very large racks in Shanghai... not the usually push-up bra C cups that you see in many place these days but the ones with really heavy breast (sometimes from over-sized girls).
Do you have any tips of places, contact numbers where I can find them?
Take care, and keep exploring!
BBLover
[QUOTE=Bblover]Hello everybody,
I am particularly interested in places, BBS, apt girls with very large racks in Shanghai... not the usually push-up bra C cups that you see in many place these days but the ones with really heavy breast (sometimes from over-sized girls).
Do you have any tips of places, contact numbers where I can find them?
Take care, and keep exploring!
BBLover[/QUOTE]See my post below. #29 has a fantastic set off breasts. Not "oversize" however, but at least a generous DD. Very unusual for an asian girl (in my experience).
WM
[QUOTE=Bblover]Hello everybody,
I am particularly interested in places, BBS, apt girls with very large racks in Shanghai... not the usually push-up bra C cups that you see in many place these days but the ones with really heavy breast (sometimes from over-sized girls).
Do you have any tips of places, contact numbers where I can find them?
Take care, and keep exploring!
BBLover[/QUOTE]
Go to Craig's List Shanghai and check out the erotic services towards the bottom of the page. There are plenty of pictures there for you to peruse. Just make sure that the provider is the same girl as the one in the picture. Tell the person on the phone that if it is not the same person in the picture then you will not open your hotel door. This should ensure that you get what you want. Don't hesitate to be insistent and persistent in China. Here are a few listings from Craig's List that you might like. I believe the site does not allow links to other websites so go to the site and check them out if the links get deleted by admin.
A particular young and terrific body girl --13761297349 - w4m - 22 (different massage experience - [url]http://shanghai.craigslist.com.cn/ers/984742758.html[/url]
*****Mature, the sex appeal, rich feminine qualities' woman**** - w4m - 25 (I am independent) - [url]http://shanghai.craigslist.com.cn/ers/984692542.html[/url]
I'm staying at the Shanghai hotel and am trying to decide whether to go to the Sauna or get a girl to come up to my room. Any thoughts on the pros and cons of both (I don't know if I should admit this, but one pro for in the room is the ability to video it on my laptop. Please don't crucify me for admitting my guilty pleasure). Has anyone had room service at the Shanghai Hotel? Any good?
Be ready for some serious upcharges on CL in Shanghai. I tried once and will never again. Worked out to like 500RMB for an awful backrub and a mediocre tug. Blech. I figured I would take one for the boys and find out. Well I found out. YMMV of course this was just my experience. ALTP (avoid like the plague).
[QUOTE=King Xavier]Go to Craig's List Shanghai and check out the erotic services towards the bottom of the page. There are plenty of pictures there for you to peruse. Just make sure that the provider is the same girl as the one in the picture. Tell the person on the phone that if it is not the same person in the picture then you will not open your hotel door. This should ensure that you get what you want. Don't hesitate to be insistent and persistent in China. Here are a few listings from Craig's List that you might like. I believe the site does not allow links to other websites so go to the site and check them out if the links get deleted by admin.
A particular young and terrific body girl --13761297349 - w4m - 22 (different massage experience - [url]http://shanghai.craigslist.com.cn/ers/984742758.html[/url]
*****Mature, the sex appeal, rich feminine qualities' woman**** - w4m - 25 (I am independent) - [url]http://shanghai.craigslist.com.cn/ers/984692542.html[/url][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Gao Xing] I had expected that there would be some sort of prostate massage, which should involve inserting the finger into the rectum. This was not offered during the massage, but I get the feeling there are some different definitions of what comprises "prostate massage" by other commentators.
[/QUOTE]
Nice Report Gao Xing!
How the prostate massage is done, is up to the individual girl, and not the place, so I guess you found one that didn't want to get her fingers dirty LOL
I have been to Peacock @ Xuhui several times, and sometimes it's been really good, with the most sensual massage ever and a good prostate massage, and sometimes it's been totally crap .. it's all about finding the right masseuse ..
cheers
-T
I was in Shanghai and staying near the Jin'an temple. Instead of trekking down to the Shanghai Hotel sauna, I decided to revisit some of the BBS's on Kangding Lu near XiKang Lu. There are three BBS's on the north side of the street, and one or two on the south side. Like previous posters, I liked the two on the north and western side of the block.
I tried them three times over one week. It was 200 RMB a pop for me (Look Chinese and can speak Chinese). I would go inside, find a cute one, and take her upstairs. In the Northwestern most one, I met a girl from Sichuan who was almost literally bursting out at the top. Definitely larger breasts than normal and she had a good attitude. The other memorable one was a girl from Hunan who worked in the north central BBS. She'd worked overseas in Singapore for a few months, so was a pro at it. It definitely showed in her BBBJ. My impression was that although I only met her once, she'd be willing to meet outside of the BBS for some fun.
Next time I'm in Shanghai, I'll have to go back for some more. It's much less time consuming and less expensive than the typical sauna scene.
[QUOTE=Vista Sushi]Address
5/F 439 Cao Xi Road (N), Shanghai
Corner of Nandan and Cao Xi, in Jianguo Hotel
It looks like there are a lot of posts about Sacrosa, which looks too good to pass up. Until I make it over to Pudong for an afternoon, I’ll have to visit the Puxi Saunas.
The hotel is owned by the Jin Jiang group, which owns the Shanghai Hotel. I thought there might be a connection there with the Saunas. So, I headed in. Within seconds I was signed up for a ‘Special Massage. ’ Not to say that this is true of all Jin Jiang hotels, but if there is one around I’d bet that you could get a FS Sauna experience.
I took a shower, lounged for a bit in the hot tub. I was called in a few minutes, robed up, and heading to a room. I was very hopeful that the attendant lady was going to be my gal. She was tall and wore a thong, which I could see through her pants. Thongs, as it turns out, are rare in China. Don’t know why, but I rarely see them. If anybody knows why, I’d like to know.
The attendant dropped me in the room with a Sprite. The room was nice enough. Had two chase lounge chairs and a flat screen TV.combined the chairs made about a double bed. The room was clean enough but smelled like cigarette smoke. Not a big fan of cigarette smoke, but its something you get used to in China. Overall it was clean and well taken care of. This was my first Sauna experience, so I can’t compare rooms. Once I get to Sacrosa I can start ranking them.
There was no lineup but it didn’t matter. The girl they brought in was more than adequate. I’d rank her looks at high 8. She spoke no English. And I speak no Chinese. Although, she is giving me some motivation to learn the language.
I lay down and she starts. Takes me a while to figure out what is going on. But to my pleasant surprise she has a nice rack. Asian shape is a bit different from Western Girls, but they are on the low-C/high-B side. And she is rubbing them all along my body. Doesn’t take long before I’m at full attention, flipped on my back and enjoying the whole thing. Next she moves onto sucking my various body parts with warm water in her mouth. Very full attention at this point. Finally, she makes it to a wonderful BBBJ.
Then she puts on the raincoat and hops on me. Word about raincoats. It didn’t dawn on me, but a previous post mentioned that they are smaller for Asian guys. It clicked this time around. The little guy was being strangled! Next time I’ll bring my own. So she hops on top and was just holding me, not moving. Kind of odd. Maybe she was doing something but I couldn't feel with the condom. Odd. She wasn’t moving much but was making theatrical sounds like she was getting off. I guess I will never know. .
So finally, she loosens her grip and I get her mish. I do that for a few moments. I can’t feel much with the little condom. I put her on her stomach and start in doggy, start feeling something and I pop. We cuddle for some time. She tries to communicate, and I get her name Xiao Lu, and number, and she gets mine. She starts getting really frustrated that we can’t communicate. I guess she wants to come to my room after. I get her to do another wonderful BBBJ while I play around with her. She lets me touch her everywhere, but didn’t like when I started to touch her sensitive clit. I start thinking maybe she did actually cum earlier. Haha. I will never know.
Age: 19
Looks: 8.5
Tits: 9
Attitude: 9
GFE: 10
Repeatable: Hell Yes
Cost: 700 RMB (2 hours negotiated)
After I leave, I get a SMS from her. I could be talking to a brick wall. That’s as much as was getting across. But, I now have some great motivation to learn Chinese (or get a electronic translator).[/QUOTE]I had a completely different experience here. I had a great massage by a thin, young, and very athletic girl. She then asked if I wanted a special massage. I said ok only if it was with you. She said that she only did massage nothing else. Then the manager came in, no thong, just heavy jeans. She asked if I wanted a special massage; ok. No line up, the girl was dumpy and it was the worst sex I have had in Shanghai. I would not return. I can't understand why my experience differs so greatly from the orignal post. I am sure I was in the right place. I have significant experience in Shanghai. Go figure.
After trying severaal sauna places in Shanghai, I headed to the SH hotel today after reading the nice reviews in this forum.
Easy to find, I went through the shower session and took the body scrub. Nice guy and atmosphere so far.
Then went to the special massage section, picked girl #25 and went to a small but ok room. She showed me a small menu, I wanted the red rope experience and this was listed on the right part of the menu. She said OK.
After that she massaged me a bit, had a nice BBBJ, but the annoying part was that she continued to speak chinese (and I cant), very irritating. Then we switched to a good FS. Thereafter...she rested next to me...then moved to another hand job. I asked for red rope, but she did not understand. I was done, left early, which she defintely did not like.
What went wrong? I missed out on the red rope service or dont I understand what this is?
Let me know what you think (for the people with red rope experience), what did I miss?
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Daxue]I had a completely different experience here. I had a great massage by a thin, young, and very athletic girl. She then asked if I wanted a special massage. I said ok only if it was with you. She said that she only did massage nothing else. Then the manager came in, no thong, just heavy jeans. She asked if I wanted a special massage; ok. No line up, the girl was dumpy and it was the worst sex I have had in Shanghai. I would not return. I can't understand why my experience differs so greatly from the original post. I am sure I was in the right place. I have significant experience in Shanghai. Go figure.[/QUOTE]Must be luck of the draw. What time did you go? After observing a few times more, the management seems to change in the evenings. I'd still rank my time it as one of my better experiences. But, based on you experience, I now second-guess a repeat. No problem, there are plenty of places all over town.
Went to Sacrosa on a Sunday afternoon. It was my first time there and after RTFF I was able to find good directions. I took the subway, which was easy enough. Just take the #2 line to Dongchang Road station. Use exit #4 which will deposit you on the corner of Pudong Road (S). Then walk down Pudong Road (S) for about 2 blocks. You'll See the Next Age Shopping center. You have to walk into the courtyard sort of place. As repeated many times the entrance between the UBC Coffee and the Steak King. It's not marked. Just go through the doors and take the elevator to the 5th floor. Another resource that helped was wikimapia.org If you zoom in on Pudong and click around, you'll find the Next Age Shopping Center and voila. You'll find the area. Wander enough and you’ll find it.
The drill: Leg Massage, Breast Rub, Tongue Massage, AR.
I'll pause after the AR (which brought flashbacks of my last colonoscopy) to mention an aspect to the various BBBJ positions. There was a laying position, then one where I was standing, then the most memorable was the one with a condom on my big toe, her grinding it, and sucking on my little man. I don’t think my big toe has ever been happier.
The drill cont’d: She went to mish. I did that for a while, but never was a fan. I had her flip around and back that thing up. It was why I picked her. Bam. After all was said and done, she did a few more massages and then time was up.
About her: I picked her because she was bigger. By western standards she was still rather thin, but compared to many in the lineup she was 'thicker. ' I was thinking more along the lines of a nice 'round thing in my face'. I like bigger butts (Not easy to find in China). I also skew towards petite girls back home, so I wanted to try something a bit bigger. Variety is the spice of life, and it's been a while since I've been with a woman my height.
Age: Mid-Low 20's (Guess..didn't ask)
Looks: 7
Tits: 7
Attitude: 8
GFE: 6
Repeatable: Meh.
Cost: 550 RMB
I wouldn't really go back to 576. But then again, why bother with repeats? In terms of the Sacrosa experience, it was dependable. For the price, it would be hard to beat, since everywhere else seems to be around the 680 mark. Between subway fare of 8 RMB round trip and 550 RMB for the show, it was a good value. The lineup at 1:30 pm had about 10 girls. You can’t really tell who’s what with the getups they wear. I figure I’d just pick randomly on height and hope for the best. She was okay. Everything was on script. Nothing earth shattering. Dependable. Reliable. Sacrosa.
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At what time BBSs usually open in Shanghai? Is there any action available at morning or early afternoon expect saunas?
My first real post and first time in Shanghai... Probably nothing special for you guys, but a new experience for a young buck like myself.
Am staying at New Asia Hotel [Xin Ya Da Fan Dien ] north of the Bund in Honkou district (Puxi side). Very pleased with the cost and quality of service here so far. [url]http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g308272-d303018-Reviews-New_Asia_Hotel-Shanghai.html[/url]
Decided to check out the sauna after a few nights here.
Called the sauna line and a young guy picked up, said it was 580rmb for a Western massage, I said that wouldn't do and hung up.
Later went down to the sauna, and initially asked for an oil massage for 260rmb, mamasan quickly put me in a room with a massage chair but without a shower. After some commotion (they probably could tell I am an American although I am an ABC), they quickly transferred me to a room with a shower.
The girl they sent me was a little chub, and I wasn't that interested so maintained with her that I just needed oil massage.
She said I could shower first and we could get down to business so she watched as I took a quick splash.
I exercise and lift weights quite a bit and complained to her that I could barely feel the pressure from her hands. She increased strength threefold and went on for an hour on my backside. Later she said that she has never applied so much pressure to a client. I gave her shit for saying that and said that her local Chinese clients were probably just weak. She said for 500rmb flat she'd give me a BBBJ and I was too tired to argue so I went with it. Later realized I could have gotten that for something like 400rmb or even less.
After I said OK she upped the pressure from her massage as she could tell I needed a stronger effort. Kept trying to teach me more Chinese as I communicated to her in my 85% fluent Mandarin. Flipped me over and gave me a chest, thigh and groin massage. Asked very politely when she could start the BJ as she was getting tired, so I said OK. After she and I finished the business she kept complimenting my body as my wad shot all over fairly strong, and she said that my "shun ti duo hao" which means body is really great.
Showered and she dried me off. She left and got some cigarettes for me as I said I needed some. She asked if I liked Shanghai and whether she could give me some tours. I said no, thinking I wouldn't want a cling-on.
Gave her a 50rmb tip and paid 500rmb up front to the guy clerk in front of the mamasan.
All in all, 500rmb+50 tip for a little less than 2 hours of a strong-arm oil massage with a happy finish and good conversation. I recall that she was #5.
I'm confident they do FS as well but don't think I am all that interested considering the girl. I'd go back for another massage though. They've got over 20+ rooms and idk how many girls, although its a little slower nowadays close to the new year.
Noticed all the BBS just a few blocks North off Sichuan Rd. last night. Girls seem restless - all businessmen are starting to leave Shanghai for the Chinese New Year. Good opportunity for anybody who wants to wing with me in the next few days. Let me know.
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To add, I've been lurking the forums for a few weeks and haven't seen much reports north of Bund and North of Suzhou Creek that I'm talking about near Sichuan Rd.
Did a quick look back on last 10 pages, no mention.
I could be wrong though, anyone to correct me?
Hi all,
Does anyone know if it is a problem taking a girl to the room at Swissotel Shanghai? And does anyone know if the Swissotel offers full service room massage and if yes at what price?
Staying in Jing An area, can anyone give me some advice on good sauna/massage places and BBS with full service? And what about bars/clubs good for dating non-pros?
And can anyone explain where the Skyline sauna is?
Thanx for help!
Arbi:
no idea on Swisshotel. As to your other questions, you are obviously unwilling to read this thread thoroughly, as all of your questions have been answered again and again and again. Make an effort, man. For crying out loud, we're not here to serve any newbie who just wants to drop in and get some intelligence.
[QUOTE=Bier 8]After trying several sauna places in Shanghai, I headed to the SH hotel today after reading the nice reviews in this forum.
Easy to find, I went through the shower session and took the body scrub. Nice guy and atmosphere so far.
Then went to the special massage section, picked girl #25 and went to a small but ok room. She showed me a small menu, I wanted the red rope experience and this was listed on the right part of the menu. She said OK.
After that she massaged me a bit, had a nice BBBJ, but the annoying part was that she continued to speak chinese (and I cant), very irritating. Then we switched to a good FS. Thereafter...she rested next to me...then moved to another hand job. I asked for red rope, but she did not understand. I was done, left early, which she defintely did not like.
What went wrong? I missed out on the red rope service or dont I understand what this is?
Let me know what you think (for the people with red rope experience), what did I miss?
Thanks![/QUOTE]Anyone an idea? I am leaving soon for a couple of weeks and would like to know if it is worth going back and I just had bad luck the first time..
I got slipped a fast one by a papasan.
Cost me 2250 plus cab fare in the end.
Don't feel like divulging right now, but I should've listened to you guys.
I won't go mongering alone again.
Bier8:
As said a million times in this thread, SH Sauna provides a convenient hassle-free environment, reasonable prices and, all for all, decent value for money. Spot-on for newbies.
IMHO, for those fellow Members comfortable with going into "all- Chinese" neighbourhoods / places without speaking the language, negatives outnumber the positives: the place is a high-demand environment, and the girls know: high percentage of Customers not living is SH, hence low probability of becoming a regular customer to one particular girl. If someone does not come back,someone else will fill that gap. Service is adapted accordingly although keeping reasonable levels of consistency (this is China anyhow, and girls come and go frequently)
It is like buying your groceries in Wal-Mart vs. going to the neighbourhood shop: different service equation. If you're new in town, chances are that you will patronize W-M until you have discovered the little treasures in other parts of town.....
Hope this helps, but next time do RTFF.
[QUOTE=Bier 8]Anyone an idea? I am leaving soon for a couple of weeks and would like to know if it is worth going back and I just had bad luck the first time..[/QUOTE]
I agree with Drainaps. The Shanghai Sauna is very consistent with quality and service, without many of the hassels. You might also want to request a VIP Room.
Woodman
[QUOTE=Drainaps]Bier8:
As said a million times in this thread, SH Sauna provides a convenient hassle-free environment, reasonable prices and, all for all, decent value for money. Spot-on for newbies.
IMHO, for those fellow Members comfortable with going into "all- Chinese" neighbourhoods / places without speaking the language, negatives outnumber the positives: the place is a high-demand environment, and the girls know: high percentage of Customers not living is SH, hence low probability of becoming a regular customer to one particular girl. If someone does not come back,someone else will fill that gap. Service is adapted accordingly although keeping reasonable levels of consistency (this is China anyhow, and girls come and go frequently)
It is like buying your groceries in Wal-Mart vs. going to the neighbourhood shop: different service equation. If you're new in town, chances are that you will patronize W-M until you have discovered the little treasures in other parts of town.....
Hope this helps, but next time do RTFF.[/QUOTE]
Hey guys. I am flying into Shanghai tomorrow and will be there until early April. Anybody willing to show a newbie around? I speak conversational Chinese. I am American citizen but with Chinese ancestry.
I would greatly appreciate someone to show me around town since I will be here a while. I'm staying at the Warner Inn initially and then going to the Grand Gateway. I'd be willing to pick up the tab if someone is willing to show me around town.
Thanks
Hello all,
Long time lurker [3ish years], but never had anything to contribute. Now that I am visiting Shanghai I believe I can. I'll try to address all the questions I had after reading the forums and trying to get practical experience.
BBS's: When in Beijing I would walk around the HuTongs looking at the small barber shops and wonder if this was a hobby location; I have since learned that the BBS everyone is talking about typically has only one, if any, barber chairs and its clear that hair is never involved. Typically they will have purple or pink lights and at least one, but probably 3-5, girls sitting around in club attire. [Note that one BBS I visited that had poor heating the one girl was bundled up like anyone else walking on the street].
You really don't need any Mandarin abilities at all, you can get by with just walking in. Pointing to the girl you want and follow her. Sometimes one girl will get up as you enter and start walking you back, but don't let that worry you, simply smile and point to the beauty you desire. They may ask if you want a massage in Chinese but just use the "rubbing invisible shoulders in the air" as an affirmation. Depending on the BBS you will either pay the overseer or follow the girl into the back. I have been asking about the price after were are out of view of the front windows, the ranges I got initially quoted in Shanghai are 100 [every time there is major up-sell involved], 200, 300, 400, 500. It seems to me if you don't haggle at the start you are just asking for up-sell later on. Haggling is easy, simply write down the number you want to pay. Make sure you will get the services you want, I found simply pointing at the pertinent body part will work fine, as well as a circle motion for everything. At this point, in about half the BBS's, a second girl will come in and they will ask [or gesticulate] if you want two girls for twice the price. Beware, if the place doesn't usually offer full service you will find it hard to convince your girl of choice to acquiesce when her friend is present.
Your now probably in a dingy, poorly lit, room that doesn't look very clean. If your at forward thinking establishment the girl will now be putting a doctors examination paper on the bed/futon/floor. Point of note. Notice the floor, see how its shiny? That is because they spit/throw everything on the floor during the session, including spent condoms. To that end, do not put anything on the floor, watch your step, and god forbid you want doggy.
Once your done, your done. Dress, avoid the pools of. Liquid. Pay the nice lady [you didn't pay up front did you? ] and leave. So far in Shanghai I have not been able to get the phone number of any BBS girl, and when I attempt to invite them to my hotel they simply tell me to see them at the BBS tomorrow.
Some guesses from my first few days here, if the initial price is only 100. The place is HJ only.
If the initial price is 200-300 then the girl will genuinely perform well.
The harder the BBS is to find, the better the service.
The average age of your BBS WG is about 30. There are young girls out there, just look through the window and go with your gut. So far, I'd put the ages that I have seen as 20, 30, teen, teen, teen, 30, 30, 20, 30, 20.
Sauna. I visited the spa Black Jack posted about, his directions are pretty good; Just note that, contrary to what the other posted said, construction has not closed the location down its just a little beyond the construction. Same building as "Shanghai #1 Restaurant".
Ally. Two guards who ignored me until I got to the elevator and asked if I was looking for a massage.
5th floor. Greeted [guards radioed ahead] and lead to locker room.
Locker Room. [I should point out I am rather portly, international shipping even; Thus I was putting off the ShangHai hotel for fear of embarrassing myself] Got a locker, undressed while 3 attendants stared, though they had the good manors not to talk =). Found out none of the spa uniforms fit, waited while they found one that didn't fit but at least went on. [If your one of the guys at the Sauna who saw the fat man with the shirt that wouldn't close. "Hello! "]. One of the attendants looked at my nails and asked if I wanted a pedicure, I said. Sure why not. Escorted to a room with two large arm chairs, the foot massage stools, and a large LCD TV.
The pedicure started; This may have been my greatest mistake of the trip. I did not stop him when I saw he was using the reusable metal tools. I got nicked and bled a little, now I am left wondering if he sterilizes his chisel [A silly question for China I know].
I was offered a drink at this point and I am asked if I want a massage. A few minutes later the mamasan brings in 3 girls. I was unsure if I could ask to see more, but, happily, the last girl took my fancy. At this point girl of my choice sits on my chair while everyone else leaves. [She says she is 20 years old]. I am unsure about next steps so I undo her top; this was apparently the wrong thing to do. After some inventive hand waving I understand we are just waiting until a room is available. Approximately 3 minutes later we are called to the room.
The room. Same easy chair, bed with strategic mirrors on ceiling, a sturdy monkey bar therein, and a large shower with water proof bed. Once we are settled the girl leaves to return wearing a nurses outfit, which she immediately removes. She unpacks her bag, in it there are; anal beads, rope, 3 cups, and condoms. A card is presented with 10 numbered list, I presume from Black Jack's post that this was the description of all the things that will happen, however I cannot read it and told her so. I am directed into the shower area where a soapy massage and BBBJ ensure. Once the mood is set, shower again, and move on to the bed. BBBJ fire and ice. On goes the happy hat, cowgirl, reverse cow girl, and doggy. Pop. She cleans up, lights a liquid bowl on fire, uses one hand to move the flames into her other hand; which is then used on my testicles. A interesting experience. Clean up again, shower, dress. Now she calls someone and hands me the phone, the incorporeal voice asks if she was ok.
Moved back into a double chair waiting room where a menu was presented to me and I was feed a complimentary dinner from the restaurant below. Rather pleasant. Mamasan comes in and asks if everything was ok again. Leave, dress in the locker room, and pay at front desk, 900 yuan total. Note you can pay with major credit cards, a rarity in China.
I did wonder; Why did the beads and rope not get used, was I supposed to select it from the card she presented?
That concludes my few experiences in Shanghai. It has been a pleasure lurking for 3 years, and I hope this will be useful to some other newbie. I'm interested in doing the bar bit, but I don't drink and have yet to take the plunge. If anyone wants to show me the ropes sometime this week, I'll buy your drinks =), pm me [I'm in JingAn Temple area].
[QUOTE=Black Jack]Although I've been actively reading the forum, it's been ages since I've last written a report. Mainly its because I've been mongering at the usual spots that have been mentioned and re-mentioned over and over again.
Last night, I revisited a sauna that was posted a long time ago. It's located on Nanjing West Road, on the same side as but 1 block west of Jingan Temple/City Plaza (jiu guang) Shopping Mall. So if you are coming out of city plaza, walk towards the right and go across the street (either via the underpass or the other side of the street). About half way down the block you will see a sign for massage, that leads into a driveway. (Note that there is actually 2 places, both with signs. The one I went to was the second one, so you will need to walk past the first sign). At the front of the driveway is a big restaurant. At the end of the driveway there will be an elevator on your left hand side. Take it up to the 5th floor.
It's probably been at least a year or more since I went there last. They renovated and now offers soapy in most of their rooms. In the room, the girl even shows you a standard menu (albeit in chinese) of all the different procedures she will perform, kind of like a checklist so they don't get lazy!
So pretty much everything you would get from other places, including red rope.
Selection was decent, more or less the same as the other places.
780 for soapy/ 700 for dry.
Have FUN!
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[QUOTE=Null Avenger].
I did wonder; Why did the beads and rope not get used, was I supposed to select it from the card she presented?
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Null Avenger,
Great post!
My guess is that the card was in fact the list of services that are to be provided. There is no need to select any. It is not a menu. You are supposed to get them all.
I reckon that when the girl realized that you could not read the card, she elected to cut some of the services that use the beads and the rope. The beads may have been for AR and the ropes may have been for hanging from above for the "red ropes" service.
In order to make the most of a sauna experience, it is important to pretend at least that you are a sauna veteran and know the score. It can also help if you give the girl the impression that you know the management and are a regular customer. This is because there are usually severe penalties for poor service. That said, if the girl knows that you lack language skills, she may not be worried about complaints.
Just my POV.
OAH
P.S. I also noticed that many BBS girls in Shanghai use that examination paper. It is a nice touch. We never get that in South China BBS.
[QUOTE=Bier 8]After trying severaal sauna places in Shanghai, I headed to the SH hotel today after reading the nice reviews in this forum.
Easy to find, I went through the shower session and took the body scrub. Nice guy and atmosphere so far.
Then went to the special massage section, picked girl #25 and went to a small but ok room. She showed me a small menu, I wanted the red rope experience and this was listed on the right part of the menu. She said OK.
After that she massaged me a bit, had a nice BBBJ, but the annoying part was that she continued to speak chinese (and I cant), very irritating. Then we switched to a good FS. Thereafter...she rested next to me...then moved to another hand job. I asked for red rope, but she did not understand. I was done, left early, which she defintely did not like.
What went wrong? I missed out on the red rope service or dont I understand what this is?
Let me know what you think (for the people with red rope experience), what did I miss?
Thanks![/QUOTE]
Sounds like she is just lazy. I have had girls in SH SN skipping on the rope. I don't care much for it so I didn't insist. The best thing is for you to either learn the word or have it written down (红绳 hong sheng). You should also make sure the girls take out the rope and fix it up on the bars BEFORE the session.
visisted Sarcosa last week at around 3 pm. Busy as always and it took half an hour before I could see the girl. Not a good sign. There were 6 girls in total and none of the girls mentioned in the forum was available. I picked 526 based on tits.
Tits were fine but not as big as some of the others. The girl is petite and is from northeast China. About the only good thing I could say was that she was enthusiastic in sucking.
Age: early 20s
Looks: 7
Tits: 8
Attitude: 6 (the sucking was fine)
GFE: 10
Repeatable: only if I can tape up her mouth
Cost: 550 RMB
The otherwise uneventful visit was made "interesting" by her constant talking. She just couldn't keep her mouth shut. And the sh*t coming out of her mouth, erk! I was turned off.
[QUOTE=Suburbanfarmboy]I got slipped a fast one by a papasan.
Cost me 2250 plus cab fare in the end.
Don't feel like divulging right now, but I should've listened to you guys.
I won't go mongering alone again.[/QUOTE]If you do have time, please do divulge. It helps to know the scams out there.
[QUOTE=Pizdyets]Other than that, sounds like Marishka, a Kazachka I've seen on TRL a few times. Her body is amazing, and face very beautiful too. But she's very pushy.[/QUOTE]Pizdyets
After our night out I headed back to see where I coud take it. Found out she is also 'managed'. She does not do LT and had to be back at the bar by 4am to see her manager. 600RMB ST one pop. Had too much of a skinfull to follow through.
WGS
[QUOTE=World Guy Sh]Pizdyets
After our night out I headed back to see where I coud take it. Found out she is also 'managed'. She does not do LT and had to be back at the bar by 4am to see her manager. 600RMB ST one pop. Had too much of a skinfull to follow through.
WGS[/QUOTE]
Hey Guy!
As I recall, she was a pretty lame kisser. Not much more than eye candy. Never heard of this 'management' thing at TRL. All the girls I've had have from there have been freelancers. Sign o' the times?
[QUOTE=Pizdyets]Hey Guy!
As I recall, she was a pretty lame kisser. Not much more than eye candy. Never heard of this 'management' thing at TRL. All the girls I've had have from there have been freelancers. Sign o' the times? [/QUOTE]Dunno. Have to admit I was pretty surprised. Always thought everyone in MH/J2 were freelancers. And that this was more of a Hong Kong kind of thing. It may have been BS. And she may have been looking for an excuse not to go of course. (You know, I'm not exactly the best looking guy on the planet! ) Hope it is not a sign of changing markets. It is so dull, and personally I am not a great fan of 'managed' girls in bars. Probably hypocritical having used saunas / salons. Moving on. .
Anyone else found this with any other girls in bars in SH? Anyone actually been with her? And as Pizdyets says, she is not a great kisser. Even on a second visit.
[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]Null Avenger,
Great post!
My guess is that the card was in fact the list of services that are to be provided. There is no need to select any. It is not a menu. You are supposed to get them all.
I reckon that when the girl realized that you could not read the card, she elected to cut some of the services that use the beads and the rope. The beads may have been for AR and the ropes may have been for hanging from above for the "red ropes" service.
In order to make the most of a sauna experience, it is important to pretend at least that you are a sauna veteran and know the score. It can also help if you give the girl the impression that you know the management and are a regular customer. This is because there are usually severe penalties for poor service. That said, if the girl knows that you lack language skills, she may not be worried about complaints.
Just my POV.
OAH
P.S. I also noticed that many BBS girls in Shanghai use that examination paper. It is a nice touch. We never get that in South China BBS. [/QUOTE]I decided to revisit the sauna. This time everything went more smoothly; Instead of sending me three girls to choose from I was directed to a room of about 25. Though its hard to choose from such a line up =), a problem I will come to enjoy. Chose girl 51, short a little and a bit on the chuby side [which I did not discern in the line-up]. Once we were in the room, she came back as a flight attendant. [Friendly skies and the like].
She asked if I would like a second girl for a total cost of 1300, I said yes. Then we discussed the physical features of this second girl, settled on young and petite. She fetches her friend [who I got the impression she would have fetched regardless of the attributes we discussed were], who is tall and on the rounded side. I initially said yes, but didn't get a really good look at her till she came back. At that point, I was unhappy with my initial decision. But decided to just eat my dog food and focus on the pretty girl. Our newcomer would not have it. The best analogue I can think of is a dominate fat sassy american Chinese girl [she did speak with an American accent]. And kept taking the lead. I decided that I was not going to be able to tolerate this at all and asked the interloper to leave. It was like I killed their puppies, and then barbecued them over a fire for 2 hours and sold puppy burgers at the 17th annual "I kill puppies because I'm a mean bastard" cook-out.
Now 51 and I continued, better service then before with alot more intimate attention in the cat bath and AR. She did not skip the red rope, so yay! Though she did miss out on the fire and ice, which I don't mind anyway.
All in all, I think I learned my lesson, its best to be a repeat customer and know what I want.
Total cost 790 for 90ish minutes, [They charged me 10 for coffee, which you shouldn't get because its in a coffee cup without a lid and ends up sloshing everywhere. It was, however, the most lovingly prepared cup of coffee I have ever had and tasted like a sweet cup of heaven].
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Tried out the TongRen Road scene, went too early [about 9pm] and every place was empty, decided to get a legitimate massage [35/hr. Can't beat it with a mechanised beating machine with a warranty from beat masters international] and came back around midnight. Very loud for my tastes decided not to stick around due to my virgin ears =). Was harassed down the block by a annoying mamasan in a red coat who would not give up, followed me for 3 blocks with her girls in tow.
Is there a freelancer pickup point that is a bit quieter? I would love to know.
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BBS. Revisited
Found a BBS I like with a girl who is a stunner, I have visited multiple times and each time service improves considerably. I am, however, unable to get take-out from the BBS; To date I have only asked the girl, but should I ask the papasan directly? I was able to get her phone number so there might be some hope there.
HI All,
I had a quick last minute business trip to SHA. I have not been there for years any was a little lost as to where to start but this thread is a great help. After my meetings I had time to kill and the urge to play. I did some research on this thread and was convinced the best and most consistent place recommended for a Shanghai newbie non Chinese speaking guest is the Shanghai Hotel.
To my surprise it was located 5 mins walk away from my hotel. That was great because the weather was freezing and I was not prepared for that. I only brought a light jacket and its not enough in January for Shanghai.
So over 2 days I over indulged in 4 sessions there. Way over the top but I wanted to treat myself after a tough 2008. So let me break the experiences into day 1 and 2.
Day 1
The process when you arrive on the 2nd floor is well documented so I wont bore you with a repeat of what has been already captured. So let me shorten it to my selection for the VIP session.
I was given a line up of available girls and there were at least 20-25 at 4PM, this was a cause of concern as I always worry when the little head picks a winning number its ends up to be a lame experience. I travel a lot so my expectations are always high.
Landed up with no 50. Sorry guys for the life of me I cant remember any of their names but I am good with numbers. She is a small pleasant looking girl with a nice set of tits. Nothing really stunning so I really cant say why I picked her but I am glad I did.
In the room…. She was very sweet, holding hands, small kisses along the way all good indicators of a good session to come. Very GFE
First the wet body massage. It was in a word GREAT. She cleaned me head to toe with lots of attention to my ass so I expected some action there and was not disappointed. She spent 20 mins cleaning me up with rubbing, kissing, body to body massage, rimming and BBBJ. She also sucked me from head to toe. Different but nice.
Back to the bed, more of the same. Wont bore you with the details but what was great about her is her hands never stopped working. While she sucked she would rub my nipples etc etc etc. In short it was an excellent session which I did repeat on day 2. She is very pro active and the only thing she did gently push my hands away was when I wanted to rub her ass and put a finger in. She was not rude about it but not something she enjoys. Everything else was cool. Lots of clit rubbing, kissing, grinding and fake moaning. I took the 80 mins sessions but it flew by in an instant. I was truly impressed by this girl.
Session finished back to the changing room. On a whim ask the manager who else is rated highly there. He checks and recommends no 55. So off I go for session 2. This time its upstairs in a smaller room with no washing facilities. This girl is just stunning. Tall with a great set of D cup tits.
Similar licking, rubbing but I must say I enjoyed no 50 more. I managed a second pop which is tough at my age without and chemical help. Nice session but not as special as no 50. So guys if you want a tall stunner, 55 is a great number to remember.
Day 2
I enjoyed no 50 so much I took her again without looking at the available stock for the day. She did not disappoint me. I was a happy man.
The overindulgence continued with another session with no 8. She is also tall, nice tits with a tattoo between them. She is one kinky woman and I enjoyed her thoroughly as well. 2nd shot done, she was up to another try. Try as I might and wanted to I could not finish. She was willing to have me BBBJCIM but I was exhausted. Next trip I will try her on the VIP service menu.
I will be happy to provide more info to any mongers who need it. In summery I had an experience to remember and rate them in some of my best ever.
Costs….. Total cost of my “happy time” was $2400 Yuan. Expensive, yes but I felt it was money well spent.
Hope this rather long report helps
Enjoy and I will again there once I can wangle another meeting there
Regards
FG II
There are references to this Sauna in other reports. So I won't mention directions and usual startup stuff.
I saw CoCo (I think her number is 906) She stood out for me because she was wearing a red skirt and white top in contrast to the other girls wearing the standard uniform. She a nice sexy look in her eyes. So I couldn't pass her up.
Get to the room and do the usual soapy. I thought her foreplay was a little too long and soft for me. She seemed quite worried about my size, but my only problem was getting the damn house condoms on. She seemed to be very sensitive. So once I fingered her up, she was wet and lubed in seconds. I slid right in and pounded pretty good. We also got a second round in where I really pounded for a long time and she took it quite well.
My only negatives would be that I had to initiate most of the action and she insisted on smoking even after I told her it bothered me. Her smoky breath was not good for me. I would recommend her because the sex was great. Personally I will go with someone else next time because there are many girls to choose from.
[QUOTE=World Guy Sh]Dunno. Have to admit I was pretty surprised. Always thought everyone in MH/J2 were freelancers. And that this was more of a Hong Kong kind of thing. It may have been BS. And she may have been looking for an excuse not to go of course. (You know, I'm not exactly the best looking guy on the planet! ) Hope it is not a sign of changing markets. It is so dull, and personally I am not a great fan of 'managed' girls in bars. Probably hypocritical having used saunas / salons. Moving on. .
Anyone else found this with any other girls in bars in SH? Anyone actually been with her? And as Pizdyets says, she is not a great kisser. Even on a second visit.[/QUOTE]
Don't sell yourself short, Monsieur du Monde. I find you plenty good looking. :P
I'm still mystified by those tits of hers. After I accused Marishka of meeting her scary, hyper-titted Pinay girlfriend at the plastic surgeon, she let you cop a feel. Though you thought they felt real, somethings are just too good to be true and I've never seen such big, buoyant, bra-less tits as those without silicone or saline...
I'd pay 6 red maos just for a photo shoot with her, given they're real.
Ok, Ok, I need to RTFF, I know. But it is Wednesday night in Chicago, and I just found out I am flying to Shanghai on Friday. I barely have time to pull everything together for this trip, much less read the forum. So I apologize in advance.
I am a 700+ poster on the USAsexguide. I do travel internationally from time to time and have been to Bejing and HK. Had a great time at the massage places in HK both times I was there. Looking to repeat that experience here. reading back 4 pages it looks like Shanghai Hotel is a good option. But I cant seem to find an address
Please indulge me. Point me to any reports I can read or send me a quick PM if there are any other places I can try. Please tell me what is the "red rope" experience I am reading about. And also is there anything near the Ritz Carlton Portman I can look for. Is there anything like Hong Kongs Mon Kok district in Shanghai?
I am really looking forward to my vist!!!
[QUOTE=Vista Sushi]If you do have time, please do divulge. It helps to know the scams out there. [/QUOTE]Went looking for 'wei ge' near Honkou district north of the Bund. Am a newbie to Shanghai so am not too sure exactly how to describe where at.
Found myself at a 24 hour pharmacy after asking a cabbie for a lift and a recommendation. Turns out they didn't even carry it! And this was only at 1030pm at a major pharmacy chain! [The one with the green sign]
Some papasan was conveniently around there and asked if I'd prefer 'da ma' instead, which he claimed mongerers use as a substitute [anyone to confirm? ]. Said I could get it a bit from a friend for 300rmb. Followed him to a KTV where automatic sitting down means the waiter will bring you a beer each, that's 40rmb a pop. Add on the room fee and a fruit plate which was 'gifted' with the room came to 2250rmb.
Papasan tried to takeoff a bunch of different times but I followed him to the hallway or whatever. Papasan left to find the bathroom, left to find the waiter, left to find the boss who'd sell us weed. Each time he was annoyed that I was onto the game. When the boss finally came he pulled me into another room asking how much 'da ma' I wanted.
When we went back to original room, papasan had taken off and stuck me with the bill for 2250rmb.
The KTV boss was an alright guy, explained a bit that I was tricked and just wanted his money, so I fronted it to him. Was too stressed out to even go for the 'da ma'.
It's a learning experience, I guess. Even though I RTFF, wasn't able to internalize all your guys' warning messages until now. I think mongering alone is really difficult and can be dangerous, especially for the newbs out there. If it were not for my 75% fluent Mandarin, I feel like I'd be sitting in a holding cell or a pitboss' basement by now.
Flying to Beijing in 14 hours, won't be as foolish out there!
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The Shanghai Hotel is on Wulumuqui street behind the Hilton. Red rope refers to the girl hanging upside down on a red rope from the ceiling while giving you a BJ. Interesting experience, but I prefer 69 or regular positions.
As far as something close to the RitzCarlton, there is always the (in)famous ZY Pub located behind the hotel pretty much in the intersection of XinZha/Jiaozhou streets (orange ZY sign outside). So long as you don't mind not having a 5* facility, you can get a decent experience there for less than 1/2 the price of a sauna.
[QUOTE=HappyGardener]Ok, Ok, I need to RTFF, I know. But it is Wednesday night in Chicago, and I just found out I am flying to Shanghai on Friday. I barely have time to pull everything together for this trip, much less read the forum. So I apologize in advance.
I am a 700+ poster on the USAsexguide. I do travel internationally from time to time and have been to Bejing and HK. Had a great time at the massage places in HK both times I was there. Looking to repeat that experience here. Reading back 4 pages it looks like Shanghai Hotel is a good option. But I can't seem to find an address
Please indulge me. Point me to any reports I can read or send me a quick PM if there are any other places I can try. Please tell me what is the "red rope" experience I am reading about. And also is there anything near the Ritz Carlton Portman I can look for. Is there anything like Hong Kongs Mon Kok district in Shanghai?
I am really looking forward to my vist! [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HappyGardener]I am really looking forward to my vist!!![/QUOTE]Shen Yu Ping (aka, 999) ... Puxi side of the river (same side as Shanghai Hotel Sauna).
Print out the PDF and show it to your taxi driver. Maybe a 20 min ride from the Bund (puxi side) at night if there is no traffic. When you get out of the taxi, look for the building with the very BIG "999" above the entrance. Walk in, have fun :-)
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=780349&postcount=3840[/url]
When your done, pay, walk out and there will be a taxi waiting. Give the driver the card to your hotel and enjoy the ride back to the hotel.
E
[QUOTE=HappyGardener]Ok, Ok, I need to RTFF, I know. But it is Wednesday night in Chicago, and I just found out I am flying to Shanghai on Friday. I barely have time to pull everything together for this trip, much less read the forum. So I apologize in advance.
I am really looking forward to my vist!!![/QUOTE]Hg,
Sorry I don't have time for a length reply, but I was in the same predicament a few months ago.
You will not have access to this forum when you get to China. What I would advise, go through the last couple of months and copy the posts that are most relavent to you and put them in a word file. Copy as many as you can. Then, when you are on the plane, read through and sort out your options. Oh yeah, get a good map of Shanghai from Borders or good bookstore in Chicago airport.
I had good luck at JJ's, near Shanghai Hotel (up about 3 blocks north), 209 North Wulumuqi Rd. Near subway station, too. There are many other places. The other good place was discussed about 3 posts earlier than yours. (I loved number 936, saw her 3 times in one week! )
I am sorry I don't know were your hotel is, but get a map and HAVE FUN! It is not as good as Bangkok, but it is still very good and great lookin girls (IMHO)
TT
Over the last few years everytime I find a new BBS I really like in the center of the city within a few months they are gone. Recently I have been enjoying the first BBS on Jiangsu Lu and Dongzhuan Bang Rd (close to Jiangsu Subway Stop), but now that looks closed. Anyone have any favorites?
Has anyone called the girls from Craigslist?
As their prices have come down significantly, love the recession
I would like to know how genuine those adds are.
Thanks
Wizard
Thanks Gao Xing for the recommendation. As this place was just up the road from where I was staying I thought I'd give it a try.
I went in pretty early about 12 midday, as I had time on my hands. Was shown the list of available services. I think I selected the nursing special with "lasting effect" for RMB338. Or something to that effect.
Taken downstairs to a small dimmly lit but well heated and clean cubicle with it's own shower. A small girl appeared soon and again showed me the menu, which I confirmed with a smile. She was dressed like a professional masseuse, pants and white cotten polo shirt, so I thought I was to be out of luck.
She was young and cute. Anyway, really nice relaxing aroma therapy massage followed, for about 40 mins with the occasional play around the old fella. Then she flipped me and sat on the bed with my legs over hers so my ass was off the bed, giving her access to evrything in between.
She skillfully kept me on the edge of orgasm for about half an hour, which for me (30 sec one pop wonder) was a real treat. Finally when I did let go I think the spunk hit the ceiling. Limited ass play, but a really great HJ. She even let me fondle her tit's. But nothing else.
All in all not a bad 90 min experience for price. So my thanks to Gao Xing for the recommendation.
Off up to Beijing for about 3 weeks for business now so will have to try my luck up there. I'm not holding my breath, being CNY and all.
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Wizard561,
I called one and she came over. It is a bait and switch routine. They are basically running an escort type agency under a veil of "massage" services. The girl they sent over was sweet so I took her for a massage. $200 RMB. Extra's were offered at get this $1500 for FS. Price dropped to $1000. I said forget it, next offer was nude HJ at $400. So i kicked her out.
Lousy massage with crazy prices. IMHO
Regards
FG II
[QUOTE=HappyGardener]Ok, Ok, I need to RTFF, I know. But it is Wednesday night in Chicago, and I just found out I am flying to Shanghai on Friday. I barely have time to pull everything together for this trip, much less read the forum. So I apologize in advance.
I am a 700+ poster on the USAsexguide. I do travel internationally from time to time and have been to Bejing and HK. Had a great time at the massage places in HK both times I was there. Looking to repeat that experience here. reading back 4 pages it looks like Shanghai Hotel is a good option. But I cant seem to find an address
Please indulge me. Point me to any reports I can read or send me a quick PM if there are any other places I can try. Please tell me what is the "red rope" experience I am reading about. And also is there anything near the Ritz Carlton Portman I can look for. Is there anything like Hong Kongs Mon Kok district in Shanghai?
I am really looking forward to my vist!!![/QUOTE]If you are staying at the Portman (Ritz Carlton) there are some good place close by for mongering. Tongren Lu within quick walking distance, avoid the drink bar girls and go straight to Manhattan's, another spot is Malone's and they have great food also. Enjoy. I also saw your post on the Chicago board and left a reply there. Just relocated to the US after several years in Shanghai, hopefully these suggestions work for you. If so, maybe you could point me in the right direction here in Chi-town. Which for the most part seems to be pretty "dry".
[QUOTE=Arbi1972]Hi all,
Does anyone know if it is a problem taking a girl to the room at Swissotel Shanghai? And does anyone know if the Swissotel offers full service room massage and if yes at what price?
Staying in Jing An area, can anyone give me some advice on good sauna/massage places and BBS with full service? And what about bars/clubs good for dating non-pros?
And can anyone explain where the Skyline sauna is?
Thanx for help![/QUOTE]Skyline Sauna is in Dalian dude...Northeast China
[QUOTE=Wizard561]Has anyone called the girls from Craigslist?
As their prices have come down significantly, love the recession
I would like to know how genuine those adds are.
Thanks
Wizard[/QUOTE]The pictures are all fake, so don't expect to get the girl whose photo was put on the site.
[QUOTE=Ander Jeff]The pictures are all fake, so don't expect to get the girl whose photo was put on the site. [/QUOTE]While I am sure that there is very little chance that the girl turning up will be the one in the picture you CAN get some very good in-call girls from the Craig's List for Shanghai. I used one advertiser and received a really super girl. A good performer and I could not have asked for one with a nicer personality.
Galinsoga
[QUOTE=Shfishfish]Over the last few years everytime I find a new BBS I really like in the center of the city within a few months they are gone. Recently I have been enjoying the first BBS on Jiangsu Lu and Dongzhuan Bang Rd (close to Jiangsu Subway Stop), but now that looks closed. Anyone have any favorites?[/QUOTE]CNY - many of the girls go home (and have gone - the season has already started). Expect many smaller ones to close for a few weeks and the larger ones to have smaller selections.
WGS
Hi
Am I right in thinking that the Shanghai Hotel is on the 53rd -87th floor of the Jin Mao tower 505 Wulumugui street?
So that would make the Shanghai Hotel 2nd floor sauna/massage place on the 54th floor?
Also any ideas as to how long a taxi from Shanghai hotel would take under normal circumstances to get out to the Grand Prix circuit?
Thanks
Pedro 917
[QUOTE=Pedro 917]Hi
Am I right in thinking that the Shanghai Hotel is on the 53rd -87th floor of the Jin Mao tower 505 Wulumugui street?
So that would make the Shanghai Hotel 2nd floor sauna/massage place on the 54th floor?
Also any ideas as to how long a taxi from Shanghai hotel would take under normal circumstances to get out to the Grand Prix circuit?
Thanks
Pedro 917[/QUOTE]Err. No.
The Shanghai Hotel is in the err. Shanghai Hotel. The Jinmao tower is about 10km away by road.
It is an ugly redish building just behind the Hilton and Equitorial as posted numerous times.
Ask for Wulumuqi Lu / Yanan Lu or Wulumuai Lu / Huashan Lu in a taxi.
And the SH Sauna is on the 2nd floor, but they have an odd numberin system for China.
The circuit is going to be a good hour or so.
WGS
[QUOTE=Galinsoga]While I am sure that there is very little chance that the girl turning up will be the one in the picture you CAN get some very good in-call girls from the Craig's List for Shanghai. I used one advertiser and received a really super girl. A good performer and I could not have asked for one with a nicer personality.
Galinsoga[/QUOTE]I second that.
Although I'm also of the impression that all the photos on Craigslist are fake.
Anybody up for going out mongering tonight? I am at the Huana hotel right now. I would be willing to pick up the tab for one night. I bought a SH cell so if someone wants to go out let me know. I do not have PM capabilities so if you're interested I can try to email you.
[QUOTE=Pedro 917]Hi
Am I right in thinking that the Shanghai Hotel is on the 53rd -87th floor of the Jin Mao tower 505 Wulumugui street?
So that would make the Shanghai Hotel 2nd floor sauna/massage place on the 54th floor?
Also any ideas as to how long a taxi from Shanghai hotel would take under normal circumstances to get out to the Grand Prix circuit?
Thanks
Pedro 917[/QUOTE]No,
that would be the Hyatt in Pudong. Shanghai is on the other river side.
Rgds,
Mike
Hi all,
I have to report a just happened very bad experience with the shanghai outcall service called "night shanghai massage" ([url]www.massage-shanghai.net[/url]), phone (86) 13482161115. The price for full service stated on the website and confirmed on the phone when I called was rmb 800 for2 hours, including 2 happy endings. The girl which arrived was, at least I believe so, the one from the picture on the website. Too bad they show only the faces not the bodies, but I know that was my own risk when using this kind of service. As soon as she arrived she undressed and ordered me to the bed where she first began to argue about the pice. She didn't speak english at all but made clear that she wasn't willing to give me the real thing for 800. At this point I alrready wanted to send her back where she came from, but that made her keep heer mouth shut (but my mood was gone anyway). She then gave me a short back massage. Then, all in a rush, she put me on the raincoat for a hurried BJ, no devotion (at least a faked one) at all to what she was doing. After 3 minutes or so she already wanted to go the step ahead for the "bumbum" as she called it. As she didn't want to relax and get touched anyway, I already fucked her, asking myself what we would be doing for the remaining 100 Minutes. She didn't like to fuck neither, ok, she was pretty tight, but complained about my size from the first strike. After some 10 minutes that was it, and I have to say it was no pleasure at all. She got up from the bed, still pointing at my willie and making a face as she had been eating dogshit. She got dressed again while I tried to get into her brain that I was not willing to pay rmb 800 for that 30 minutes of worst sex ever of my life. Masturbating would have been heaven instead and free. I called her boss as she didn't seem to co-operate at all, and finally, after passing the phone from me to her from her to me, he said it's up to me what I will be willing to pay. I had some trouble getting her out of my room with 300 in her hands but as I got angry a little more and said FINISHED DISCUSSION, finally gone she was, shouting some unnice sounding Chinese sentences.
Damage was not too bad with rmb 300, but still much to much for such a horrible experience. I am sure I will never use any outcall service again, as you just do not know what you will get. Maybe you are lucky, maybe not.
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[QUOTE=Arbi1972]Hi all,
I have to report a just happened very bad experience with the shanghai outcall service called "night shanghai massage" ([url]www.massage-shanghai.net[/url]), phone (86) 13482161115. The price for full service stated on the website and confirmed on the phone when I called was rmb 800 for2 hours, including 2 happy endings. The girl which arrived was, at least I believe so, the one from the picture on the website. Too bad they show only the faces not the bodies, but I know that was my own risk when using this kind of service. As soon as she arrived she undressed and ordered me to the bed where she first began to argue about the pice. She didn't speak english at all but made clear that she wasn't willing to give me the real thing for 800. At this point I alrready wanted to send her back where she came from, but that made her keep heer mouth shut (but my mood was gone anyway). She then gave me a short back massage. Then, all in a rush, she put me on the raincoat for a hurried BJ, no devotion (at least a faked one) at all to what she was doing. After 3 minutes or so she already wanted to go the step ahead for the "bumbum" as she called it. As she didn't want to relax and get touched anyway, I already fucked her, asking myself what we would be doing for the remaining 100 Minutes. She didn't like to fuck neither, ok, she was pretty tight, but complained about my size from the first strike. After some 10 minutes that was it, and I have to say it was no pleasure at all. She got up from the bed, still pointing at my willie and making a face as she had been eating dogshit. She got dressed again while I tried to get into her brain that I was not willing to pay rmb 800 for that 30 minutes of worst sex ever of my life. Masturbating would have been heaven instead and free. I called her boss as she didn't seem to co-operate at all, and finally, after passing the phone from me to her from her to me, he said it's up to me what I will be willing to pay. I had some trouble getting her out of my room with 300 in her hands but as I got angry a little more and said FINISHED DISCUSSION, finally gone she was, shouting some unnice sounding Chinese sentences.
Damage was not too bad with rmb 300, but still much to much for such a horrible experience. I am sure I will never use any outcall service again, as you just do not know what you will get. Maybe you are lucky, maybe not.
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Arbi1972,
Thanks for your post and welcome to the board.
Your experience can happen with providers from any source, not just outcall service. At least you mitigated the damage by paying only 300 RMB. You were lucky. Many girls would have insisted on more money, refused to leave the room and threatened you will all kinds of bullshit. When this happens to me, I usually just give them the full amount to avoid any trouble and chalk it up to bad luck.
Your first instinct was correct. You should have just sent her on her way when she started asking for more money from the start. That was the telltale sign that what was soon to come would be a bad experience. Most of the time, when a girl thinks she is being paid less than she deserves (whether reality or pure perception), the service reflects this. The problem may be that some BSD gave her a ridiculous amount of money before and she is now looking to replicate that deal. That said, I can understand that your little head took over.
The best part of this forum is that it gives us the opportunity to share the good and the bad, so we can avoid falling into the same trap. Although that may be no consolation for your bad experience, it helps the rests of us. Thanks.
Just my POV.
OAH
[QUOTE=Ndestrukts]Hey guys. I am flying into Shanghai tomorrow and will be there until early April. Anybody willing to show a newbie around? I speak conversational Chinese. I am American citizen but with Chinese ancestry.
I would greatly appreciate someone to show me around town since I will be here a while. I'm staying at the Warner Inn initially and then going to the Grand Gateway. I'd be willing to pick up the tab if someone is willing to show me around town.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
how should someone get in touch with you?
Are you sure ?
Maybe just same name.
If my memory serves me well there was a Skyline Sauna in Shanghai in the area of the railway station.
[QUOTE=Rkatek]Skyline Sauna is in Dalian dude...Northeast China[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Arbi1972]
.....
And can anyone explain where the Skyline sauna is?
.....
[/QUOTE]
You will not have access to this forum when you get to China. (IMHO)
TT[/QUOTE]In China, use an anonymous proxy.
[QUOTE=World Guy Sh]Err. No.
The Shanghai Hotel is in the err. Shanghai Hotel. The Jinmao tower is about 10km away by road.
It is an ugly redish building just behind the Hilton and Equitorial as posted numerous times.
Ask for Wulumuqi Lu / Yanan Lu or Wulumuai Lu / Huashan Lu in a taxi.
And the SH Sauna is on the 2nd floor, but they have an odd numberin system for China.
The circuit is going to be a good hour or so.
WGS[/QUOTE]
Hi Michi & WGS
Thanks for the input, but jeez guys how many Shanghai Hotels are there on Wulumughi St? well that's always assuming Wulumuqi Lu is the same place.
Look at the attached link and you will see the reason for my confusion! [url]http://www.agoda.com/asia/china/shanghai/shanghai_hotel.html[/url]
Can anyone supply a link for The Shanghai Hotel i.e the 1 with the massage/sauna on the 2nd floor that features so favourably on this forum, or at least supply the number Wuluamughi street. I have RTFF but without success but having to read 4000 odd posts is asking a bit much!
Pedro 917
Shanghai Hotel vs other saunas
There are several reports on Shanghai Hotel but check out #4199 and #4171.
I might also suggest there are other saunas that seem to rate better for service. The Shanghai Hotel is famous for red ropes and most people suggest it as a one time experience but most say it is a novelty they would probably not repeat. For my money I would try Sacrosa or World Plaza B2. Both can be searched on this thread.
Best of Hunts.
MD40
[QUOTE=Pedro 917]Hi Michi & WGS
Thanks for the input, but jeez guys how many Shanghai Hotels are there on Wulumughi St? well that's always assuming Wulumuqi Lu is the same place.
Look at the attached link and you will see the reason for my confusion! [url]http://www.agoda.com/asia/china/shanghai/shanghai_hotel.html[/url]
Can anyone supply a link for The Shanghai Hotel i.e the 1 with the massage/sauna on the 2nd floor that features so favourably on this forum, or at least supply the number Wuluamughi street. I have RTFF but without success but having to read 4000 odd posts is asking a bit much!
Pedro 917[/QUOTE]
Pedro,
That link shows the Shanghai Hotel site of the famous sauna on second floor. I noticed there is a picture showing the showers and pools area of it.
Address is stated correctly there: Wulumuqi Road 505.
As you may know "Lu" is chinese for road, so there is no other street with same name.
Please refer to my old post [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=648853&postcount=2011[/url] containing mapping on Google Earth with locations of various popular spots at that time including Shanghai Hotel.
Last gift is Chinese address for Shanghai Hotel so you won't get lost.
Enjoy
[QUOTE=Pedro 917]Hi Michi & WGS
Thanks for the input, but jeez guys how many Shanghai Hotels are there on Wulumughi St? well that's always assuming Wulumuqi Lu is the same place.
Look at the attached link and you will see the reason for my confusion! [url]http://www.agoda.com/asia/china/shanghai/shanghai_hotel.html[/url]
Can anyone supply a link for The Shanghai Hotel i.e the 1 with the massage/sauna on the 2nd floor that features so favourably on this forum, or at least supply the number Wuluamughi street. I have RTFF but without success but having to read 4000 odd posts is asking a bit much!
Pedro 917[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]Arbi1972,
Thanks for your post and welcome to the board.
Your experience can happen with providers from any source, not just outcall service. At least you mitigated the damage by paying only 300 RMB. You were lucky. Many girls would have insisted on more money, refused to leave the room and threatened you will all kinds of bullshit. When this happens to me, I usually just give them the full amount to avoid any trouble and chalk it up to bad luck.
Your first instinct was correct. You should have just sent her on her way when she started asking for more money from the start. That was the telltale sign that what was soon to come would be a bad experience. Most of the time, when a girl thinks she is being paid less than she deserves (whether reality or pure perception), the service reflects this. The problem may be that some BSD gave her a ridiculous amount of money before and she is now looking to replicate that deal. That said, I can understand that your little head took over.
The best part of this forum is that it gives us the opportunity to share the good and the bad, so we can avoid falling into the same trap. Although that may be no consolation for your bad experience, it helps the rests of us. Thanks.
Just my POV.
OAH[/QUOTE]
I concur with OAH.
If they start asking for more money than what was quoted by an outcall service, BBS or KTV mommy, etc, then that should be your red flag right there.
Girls who insist on more money, more often than not provide the worst service.
I have found the best thing to do is get rid of the girl asap. Despite the trouble and all, you are usually better off without such a girl. They are also more prone to stealing from you.
Girls like this are just not worth the trouble and risk.
MAB
Thanks for the link Albert. Much appreciated! I know SH very well, but your google places link just makes it easier to get a bird's eye view snapshot of the best 'points of interest'.
One question....are you Italian by any chance?
Wobudong
[QUOTE=Albert Punter]Pedro,
That link shows the Shanghai Hotel site of the famous sauna on second floor. I noticed there is a picture showing the showers and pools area of it.
Address is stated correctly there: Wulumuqi Road 505.
As you may know "Lu" is chinese for road, so there is no other street with same name.
Please refer to my old post [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=648853&postcount=2011[/url] containing mapping on Google Earth with locations of various popular spots at that time including Shanghai Hotel.
Last gift is Chinese address for Shanghai Hotel so you won't get lost.
Enjoy[/QUOTE]
Here you are with the hotel website [url]http://www.jinjianghotels.com/portal/en/findStep.asp?sType=City&areaid=021&address=&zip=&airport=&scene=&range=&brand=-1&roomTID=1&roomsCount=1&startdate=2009-1-19&enddate=2009-1-20&price=+BasePrice+%2A+param1++%3E%3D0&ssql=&language=2&page=11&adults=1&childs=0&did=242[/url]
Any info on this place? Tried to search the forum but no luck. Right around the corner from my hotel. Feel like I have to go just because of the name, LOL.
Thanks to EVERYONE that PM'd me, that posted things here, and that generally took the time to answer my questions. I am in town now. Went for a walk tonight, saw Happy Garden Sauuna, saw a BBS across the street, saw Malones, and was approached by 3 WGs 50 feet from the Ritz. One of my business partners went into Malones at 3am (jet lag) and said 3 girls came up to him. He is newly married and not into playing.
Told my local contact that I want to go to a Sauna, and said I was thinking about SH. He said only tourists go there, I will take you someplace local and better on the last night I am in town. So....we will see what happens. And just like what was posted by someone else here, he too said the Red Rope trick is interesting, but that most people only go there once. His opinion anyway. He also said he had numbers of a local massage girl, but i think he was offering a legit person as he talked about it openly with our entire group of men and women
I might try Happy Garden tomorrow night. Again, I cant help thinking it is Karma with the name. I did the BBS in Bejing a couple of years ago. It was ok, and I can say I did it. Think I would rather do the Spa treatment for my old bones. I'm pissed I left my Viagra at home. I ususally keep some in my travel kit, and I took it out a few weeks ago. Totally forgot. Oh well....wish me luck
Oh and a HUGE thank you about the proxy server issue. I never would have been able to get on tonight without knowing that
[QUOTE=Albert Punter]Here you are with the hotel website [url]http://www.jinjianghotels.com/portal/en/findStep.asp?sType=City&areaid=021&address=&zip=&airport=&scene=&range=&brand=-1&roomTID=1&roomsCount=1&startdate=2009-1-19&enddate=2009-1-20&price=+BasePrice+%2A+param1++%3E%3D0&ssql=&language=2&page=11&adults=1&childs=0&did=242[/url][/QUOTE]Thanks for info AP & MD40
Have now booked Shanghai Hotel but will research Sarcosa & World Plaza B2 for variety!
Hotel address in Chinese great.
Thanks,
Pedro 917
Interested to check out some local sn which offer cheaper rates and pretty good services in the afternoon (880 for 3p of 2 chicks/450 for 90 min, etc). I know the addresses and know pretty decent Chinese. Give me a message at [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue] if interested.
Cheers
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'da ma' actually is the expression for 'carnabis'.
[QUOTE=Suburbanfarmboy]Went looking for 'wei ge' near Honkou district north of the Bund. Am a newbie to Shanghai so am not too sure exactly how to describe where at.
Found myself at a 24 hour pharmacy after asking a cabbie for a lift and a recommendation. Turns out they didn't even carry it! And this was only at 1030pm at a major pharmacy chain! [The one with the green sign]
Some papasan was conveniently around there and asked if I'd prefer 'da ma' instead, which he claimed mongerers use as a substitute [anyone to confirm? ]. Said I could get it a bit from a friend for 300rmb. Followed him to a KTV where automatic sitting down means the waiter will bring you a beer each, that's 40rmb a pop. Add on the room fee and a fruit plate which was 'gifted' with the room came to 2250rmb.
Papasan tried to takeoff a bunch of different times but I followed him to the hallway or whatever. Papasan left to find the bathroom, left to find the waiter, left to find the boss who'd sell us weed. Each time he was annoyed that I was onto the game. When the boss finally came he pulled me into another room asking how much 'da ma' I wanted.
When we went back to original room, papasan had taken off and stuck me with the bill for 2250rmb.
The KTV boss was an alright guy, explained a bit that I was tricked and just wanted his money, so I fronted it to him. Was too stressed out to even go for the 'da ma'.
It's a learning experience, I guess. Even though I RTFF, wasn't able to internalize all your guys' warning messages until now. I think mongering alone is really difficult and can be dangerous, especially for the newbs out there. If it were not for my 75% fluent Mandarin, I feel like I'd be sitting in a holding cell or a pitboss' basement by now.
Flying to Beijing in 14 hours, won't be as foolish out there!
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I have had a few visits to Peacock Massage and have found the service very good. I prefer large breasts so I asked for such last time and was given #21. All in all, a nice session, although I would not say she had large tits (no complaints though). Does anyone else have any recommendations for large-breasted girls at Peacock or other massage places?
Levitian,
Do you mean "cannabis" ?
Please, in addition be so kind to tell me what "wei ge" means.
Thanks in advance
[QUOTE=Levitian]'da ma' actually is the expression for 'carnabis'.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Eyebrow777]Shen Yu Ping (aka, 999) ... Puxi side of the river (same side as Shanghai Hotel Sauna).
Print out the PDF and show it to your taxi driver. Maybe a 20 min ride from the Bund (puxi side) at night if there is no traffic. When you get out of the taxi, look for the building with the very BIG "999" above the entrance. Walk in, have fun :-)
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=780349&postcount=3840[/url]
When your done, pay, walk out and there will be a taxi waiting. Give the driver the card to your hotel and enjoy the ride back to the hotel.
E[/QUOTE]Hit this place. Large selection of girls when I got there at 1PM, but not any that were hotties. In fact a few were a bit homely. I narrowed down to about 3 cute girls. 899 caught my eye. She is quite tall compared to most of the other girls, but I like that. She also had some intense eyes that gave me some good vibes.
Overall routine was typical for a soapy sauna experience. The elevated sofa for the soapy seemed a little arkward for her and she kept worrying about falling off. I would have been happy if we just went to the bed and went straight to the action. Good sex. Maybe not energizer bunny type of energy level but she was quite friendly. I happened to be able to communicate with her because she can speak some Cantonese which is what I speak. So I probably connected with her more than most other girls. The porn on the TV was an interesting touch, but I never really liked Asian porn. So I can't say it got me excited. Clean room and nice setup for the price.
Overall good experience, nice girl, and I would repeat.
[QUOTE=Jarodmeng]Interested to check out some local sn which offer cheaper rates and pretty good services in the afternoon (880 for 3p of 2 chicks/450 for 90 min, etc). I know the addresses and know pretty decent Chinese. Give me a message at jarod. Meng at gmail if interested.
Cheers[/QUOTE]I am not sure if I am impressed or shocked that you used your real name as a login here AND gave out your real e-mail address! Let us hope no one googles you the next time you are looking for a job.
Maybe that is not his real name and he created an e-mail account using his nick.
[QUOTE=Nighthawk55]I am not sure if I am impressed or shocked that you used your real name as a login here AND gave out your real e-mail address! Let us hope no one googles you the next time you are looking for a job.[/QUOTE]
Also was recently at Yu Ping 999 about a week ago and sampled the charms of #899. I was there around 5 PM and found the lineup of about 12 girls to be quite nice. No really stunners but no homely ones either. As always hit or miss, or maybe different tastes!
The setting is very nice. They bring you in and move you along in a brisk, but friendly manner. Even with no Chinese capabilities, it is as simple and easy as the Shanghai Hotel sauna but with much nicer facilities (although I have only tried the "non-soapy" part of SH Sauna). Fishbowl must be two way. About 2 or 3 of the girls were looking at the feet with the "don't let the laowai pick me" vibe.
Soapy part is fun. The wet room is quite large, mirrors, etc. Not sure if there are different grades of rooms, but the soapy couch was comfortable and had raised sides (maybe 2. 3 inches) so it didn't seem like there was much danger of the girl launching herself over the side. I had not experienced one of these before, so it was interesting / amusing. 899 did not spend too much time on this, which was fine. Feeling a soapy nipple massaging the bottom of your foot becomes more of a "WTF is she doing" rather than building up any excitement.
Then off to the dry side. Room was very nice. Surrounded by mirrors, the bed had bars over it (but "red rope" service was neither offered or requested. More of a novelty, and had experienced it before). Porn on the flat screen was western. Start off with BBBJ, quite enthusiastic, then on to various positions, some more CBJ then finish in mish. CIM was refused. Then back to the soapy room for another thorough washing down.
I will certainly go back there and highly recommend the place. But would not specifically go after 899 again. She was fine, just not exceptional. On the way out there is some activity on the second floor (relaxing rooms? ) with food being served. Anyone know about this?
Damages were 680 RMB, check out guys grabbed a taxi for me. Here is Eyebrow's posting of their biz card [url]http://www.internationalsexguide. In. &postcount=3840[/url]. Very easy to find.
[QUOTE=Ru1992]Hit this place. Large selection of girls when I got there at 1PM, but not any that were hotties. In fact a few were a bit homely. I narrowed down to about 3 cute girls. 899 caught my eye. She is quite tall compared to most of the other girls, but I like that. She also had some intense eyes that gave me some good vibes.
Overall routine was typical for a soapy sauna experience. The elevated sofa for the soapy seemed a little arkward for her and she kept worrying about falling off. I would have been happy if we just went to the bed and went straight to the action. Good sex. Maybe not energizer bunny type of energy level but she was quite friendly. I happened to be able to communicate with her because she can speak some Cantonese which is what I speak. So I probably connected with her more than most other girls. The porn on the TV was an interesting touch, but I never really liked Asian porn. So I can't say it got me excited. Clean room and nice setup for the price.
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I'm gonna be in Shanghai from Saturday through Wednesday and I'm planing on visiting Sarcosa and am staying at the Shanghai hotel (Room massage? ). A couple of basic questions for people who have visited more than once.
What's the best time of day to go for the biggest choice of women?
Is it better to go on a weekday or the weekend?
Has anyone had an experience with room service at Shanghai Hotel? Anyone ordered a girl up to the room? What's the deal. Thanks for letting me know.
[QUOTE=Albert Punter]Maybe that is not his real name and he created an e-mail account using his nick.[/QUOTE]Felt like a bit of a bait and catch. Too weird and random in approach - even for a newbie!
Not till I walked over there did I realize that the Shanghai Hotel is a real hotel.
I just assumed it was some fancy name for a sauna. Dumb me.
Girl # 1. Amazing. Really Amazing tricks. Will right in detail more on the plane ride home.
I guess he means Vitamin V .......
[QUOTE=Albert Punter]Levitian,
Please, in addition be so kind to tell me what "wei ge" means.
Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Albert Punter]Levitian,
Do you mean "cannabis" ?
Please, in addition be so kind to tell me what "wei ge" means.
Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]It means Viagra
[QUOTE=Albert Punter]Levitian,
Do you mean "cannabis" ?
Please, in addition be so kind to tell me what "wei ge" means.
Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]That means viagra.
I searched the forum for BBS in shanghai and pretty much every other report has the word BBS in it, so I thought I'd ask the folks in the know. Is there an area in Shanghai with a good collection of BBS? Preferably close to a subway stop since I'm new and will only be there for a couple of days and can't really get to know the city (Subways, I'm fine with).
Also, Chinese New Year is on Monday. Will things go back to normal on Tuesday and Wednesday (regarding shortage of girls) or does that last the whole 15 days of celebration.
Lots of questions, but thanks in advance.
hi!
just coming back from bangkok, where i enjoyed night entertainment much more than in shanghai (and my walett, too! half price in average at same service).
tired from "shanghai hotel" or further hooker bars on "tongren lu", i would welcome some bj bars like [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s or kangaroo in bangkok, where you pay 700 baht + normal price for a beer for a 15 minutes stay! total damage about 25 usd for a good short time fun, in public!
any similar place in shanghai? or at least anything different than our usual reported saunas? some exotic place.
pamplona
Chinese new year is a week long celebration. For most migrant workers in the big cities, the have a full day of travel at least on both ends of the holiday. Think of it as travelling from New York to Central Missouri by train.
999 TianYaoQiao Road
Quick Directions. Go to the Line 4 Shanghai Stadium Station. Go to exit 3. The escalator will lead you in the right direction. You’ll walk straight south down Tian Yao Qiao road for a while. You’ll pass under the elevated highway. When you get to that corner, look up and you’ll see 999. Couldn’t be easier.
Girl #896.
I picked her because she was a good mix of what I like. Yu Ping is fantastic because all the girls will be wearing thongs and bras. Unlike the Sacrosa outfits (which add a lot of mystery) you’ll have about a 90 percent chance of getting what you want. Avoid push-up bra’s if you are a boob guy. Boobs are important for the soapy massage.
Phenyl mentioned the fishbowl being two way. I agree. There were clearly girls looking straight at me. I was in a group of 3 guys. The other 2 were natives. For being just before CNY the lineup had 10 girls. I was impressed and the decision took a couple minutes.
I picked 896 because she wasn’t the tallest, but second tallest. And the tallest girl had a push-up. If I was nit-picky, and I will be for journalistic reasons, she would have been a stunner if she had a bigger butt. She also had a pretty big forest. But that's fine with me.
Age: early 20s
Looks: 8
Tits: 9
Attitude: 7
GFE: 6
Repeatable: Her, no. The Sauna, yes.
Cost: 680 RMB
The drill: She starts very mechanically. Washes me down, soapy rub while on stomach, soapy rub while on back. Move to dry room. Licks me down, up, AR. AR was more licking, not probing, which I prefer. BBBJ. I was getting ready, but she moves quickly to mish. I move DATY. Get her off, then the GFE was a lot better. She starts working harder. We do a lot of different stuff, but the little guy was being difficult. Finally HJ gets me off. She also lets me play with her butt, but didn’t want to get into 69.
The Sauna was nicer than Sacrosa. For the extra 130, you get soapy and a better lineup IMHO. The bed is nicer too. The jap porn was a bit odd. They had an anal scene. That was a tease.
I went to some little BBS on Lianhua Rd. I forgot the st number. It was okay nothing special but I did get her number and got a chance for takeout later. Cost was pretty cheap. I got 2 girls for 300RMB FS probably in there for 45 minutes or so. I can be found on ymail using the name below. It was quite cramped and cold in there.
Anyways still looking to experience more so get in touch with me.
How late is the SH hotel sauan open until? Is it 24 hours? I get bored late at night around 11pm-midnightish and was thinking about going there late one night. What do you think it will be like over the CNY week? Will it be dead?
I don't remember opening hours, but I remember I have been there late over 11 PM or midnight and there was activity and plenty of girls to choose from.
[QUOTE=Ndestrukts]How late is the SH hotel sauan open until? Is it 24 hours? I get bored late at night around 11pm-midnightish and was thinking about going there late one night. What do you think it will be like over the CNY week? Will it be dead?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ndestrukts]How late is the SH hotel sauan open until? Is it 24 hours? I get bored late at night around 11pm-midnightish and was thinking about going there late one night. What do you think it will be like over the CNY week? Will it be dead?[/QUOTE]The sauna is officially open till 4 AM, but girls without customers at 2 AM can go home, what they usually do!
I took out ladys twice, after a good session in the afternoon; both of them fixed the appointment for pick up "shortly after 2 AM".
I would not recommend to enter after midnight; SH needs to be enjoyed not only for the girls, but -in my opinion- also for the jaccuzzi, sauna, pedicure etc... Take your time when you are in SH! I usually stay at least 2,5 hours.
[QUOTE=Albert Punter]I don't remember opening hours, but I remember I have been there late over 11 PM or midnight and there was activity and plenty of girls to choose from.[/QUOTE]What do you think it will be like this week? Do you think there will be a selection? I use this same user name at y.aho. o so people can find me there.
I'm staying at the grand gateway near xujiahui, line 1 subway station. Is there anything BBS, Sauana, etc within walking distance of here?
[QUOTE=Ndestrukts]How late is the SH hotel sauan open until? Is it 24 hours? I get bored late at night around 11pm-midnightish and was thinking about going there late one night. What do you think it will be like over the CNY week? Will it be dead?[/QUOTE]In Shanghai they are usually only open until 1 or 2 am while in many other cities often 24hrs. This is because the working girls in other cities usually HAVE TO sleep and live in the Sauna while in Shanghai, the girls can live outside and have their own family life.
So better call first. B2/World Plaza should be until 2am. Tian Hao is until 2am but when I arrived around midnight some days ago, I was really "pushed thru" quickly. So better go earlier to Sauna so you do not have to hurry up (or be hurried up) doing anything.
Sauna will not be dead around the CNY week, but you will have few choice of girls. There are still a lot of guests but since almost all girls went home for the New Year, there are few girls left. And I would say the girls left are the "desperate" ones who normally do not get many guests. At Tian Hao a few days ago, I only had a choice between 2 girls, one short and really fat with look 3, one slim with little breast with look 5. This is not the quality you usually would get. So you should expect little choice and low quality girls during CNY
[QUOTE=Ndestrukts]I went to some little BBS on Lianhua Rd. I forgot the st number. It was okay nothing special but I did get her number and got a chance for takeout later. Cost was pretty cheap. I got 2 girls for 300RMB FS probably in there for 45 minutes or so. I can be found on ymail using the name below. It was quite cramped and cold in there.
Anyways still looking to experience more so get in touch with me.[/QUOTE]BBS places are really cold and uncomfortable as Ndestrukts said. It is much better to ask the girls to come to your hotel room. You would need to stay in a hotel nearby so they would be willing to come to your hotel. In Pudong area, you can easily find hotels (from cheap to good ones) near BBS places.
[quote=pamplona]hi!
just coming back from bangkok, where i enjoyed night entertainment much more than in shanghai (and my walett, too! half price in average at same service).
tired from "shanghai hotel" or further hooker bars on "tongren lu", i would welcome some bj bars like [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s or kangaroo in bangkok, where you pay 700 baht + normal price for a beer for a 15 minutes stay! total damage about 25 usd for a good short time fun, in public!
any similar place in shanghai? or at least anything different than our usual reported saunas? some exotic place.
pamplona[/quote]at bbs i got excellent bj for as little as rm 50, breast job for rmb 80 and fs for as little as rmb 120. i think this is definitely not more expensive than your bj bars in bangkok. but they certainly do not do it in public.
the only thing close to doing it in public is the ktvs. chinese businessmen would go together and book a private room. then they would got bj or even fs in front of their business friends. search ktv in the forum and you will find the address etc from reports from other members. but be aware: you spend serious money at ktv, could be rmb 1,000 or more per person. and you need at least 3 or 4 persons to get your own room.
[QUOTE=Sfinil]Is there an area in Shanghai with a good collection of BBS? Preferably close to a subway stop since I'm new and will only be there for a couple of days and can't really get to know the city (Subways, I'm fine with).[/QUOTE]The Lancun Rd Station at Pudong area can be reached easily with No. 4 and 6. When you get out of the station, you will see a hotel named Chinas Best Value Inn (where you can get room for RMB 200 to 250. As I mentioned in another report, I like to bring BBS girl back to hotel instead of doing it in the cold and uncomfortable place. But of course you need Chinese language skill to do this) at the left side of a road. At the right side of this road, you should see massage parlors. This is the road! Go about 1 minute into this road, you should see many BBSs, most of them on the left side.
By the way, you can get really good full body oil massage at the massage parlors at the right side of the road for as little as RMB 108 (the price is published outside so you should be able to see). I think it is the first or second massage parlor on the right side. Please look at the price to confirm it. The girls are all trained professionals, but they do not normally do happy endings, just that you know. I was able to persuade one girl for a tip of RMB 100. But I failed at two other girls since they said they would be fired if caught by the boss.
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Many sex shops and drug stores in China offer Viagra at an unbelievable low price. If they are copies with the correct chemicals, I would buy them. But I am worrying whether they are simply fakes. Any one who knows where I can get "correctly copied" Viagra in Shanghai or in Beijing?
Thanks!
i don't know bangkok bars you mention (only place i know is eden club).
i believe that in shanghai too you can find places where you get a quick release for little money. just look for bbs where you pay rmb 150-200 (i.e. usd 20-30), sometimes less, for a bbbj. otherwise you may look for former zy pub (now 1771), where a quick fix and a beer can be bought for rmb 300 (about usd 40) or similar places.
at least here you don't get served in public but in small cubicles.
surely current shanghai mongers can be more precise.
[quote=pamplona]hi!
just coming back from bangkok, where i enjoyed night entertainment much more than in shanghai (and my walett, too! half price in average at same service).
tired from "shanghai hotel" or further hooker bars on "tongren lu", i would welcome some bj bars like [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s or kangaroo in bangkok, where you pay 700 baht + normal price for a beer for a 15 minutes stay! total damage about 25 usd for a good short time fun, in public!
any similar place in shanghai? or at least anything different than our usual reported saunas? some exotic place.
pamplona[/quote]
From what I'm reading I should wait until after CNY and also go earlier in the day. I did get that BBS lady to come to my hotel once already when I lived closer to there at the Huana hotel. Now since I'm at the Grand Gateway, there are less "seedy" areas around here if you know what I mean. However, I did see her again at her hotel on CNY eve essentially. She said next time we could do freebie. But I don't know about that. She doesn't seem to like to swallow haha from what she said, in fact she said she's never done it before. And she's slightly older at 28-29ish is what she told me. I went and saw her at the super motel 168 which probably has the most uncomfortable, springy beds I've ever encountered in my short life. I use this same username on another service y. H. O.
Are any of you senior members in town and would like to go out? Reach me at yho. Where are the hot ladies at?
[QUOTE=Rick China]In Shanghai they are usually only open until 1 or 2 am while in many other cities often 24hrs. This is because the working girls in other cities usually HAVE TO sleep and live in the Sauna while in Shanghai, the girls can live outside and have their own family life.
So better call first. B2/World Plaza should be until 2am. Tian Hao is until 2am but when I arrived around midnight some days ago, I was really "pushed thru" quickly. So better go earlier to Sauna so you do not have to hurry up (or be hurried up) doing anything.
Sauna will not be dead around the CNY week, but you will have few choice of girls. There are still a lot of guests but since almost all girls went home for the New Year, there are few girls left. And I would say the girls left are the "desperate" ones who normally do not get many guests. At Tian Hao a few days ago, I only had a choice between 2 girls, one short and really fat with look 3, one slim with little breast with look 5. This is not the quality you usually would get. So you should expect little choice and low quality girls during CNY[/QUOTE]
[quote=albert punter]i don't know bangkok bars you mention (only place i know is eden club).
i believe that in shanghai too you can find places where you get a quick release for little money. just look for bbs where you pay rmb 150-200 (i.e. usd 20-30), sometimes less, for a bbbj. otherwise you may look for former zy pub (now 1771), where a quick fix and a beer can be bought for rmb 300 (about usd 40) or similar places.
at least here you don't get served in public but in small cubicles.
surely current shanghai mongers can be more precise.[/quote]eden is for sure one of my favourite in bkk, but similar to 999 for example in shanghai, or sh hotel in vip rooms downstair, as in both of them you can take two girls for around 400 rmb surcharge. the best bj bars in bkk would be [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url], kangoroo, sol (in this ranking!).
where is zy pub (now 1771)? what is the concept?
bbs is not my cup of tea, sorry... only tried twice, but gave up...
would be interesting to add more posts on non sauna / bbs / massage places in this shanghai forum!
I never heard of anyone actually having sex in a KTV. Has anyone else?
PS - for edification for those who haven't been to any or many KTV's, RMB 1000 per person would probably be the minimum you should expect to spend, and that would be a mid-level or lower KTV (and of course not taking any girls out).
[QUOTE=Rick China]
The only thing close to doing it in public is the KTVs. Chinese businessmen would go together and book a private room. Then they would got BJ or even FS in front of their business friends. Search KTV in the forum and you will find the address etc from reports from other members. But be aware: You spend serious money at KTV, could be RMB 1,000 or more per person. And you need at least 3 or 4 persons to get your own room.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bonzo1]I never heard of anyone actually having sex in a KTV.[/QUOTE]Personally fucked one in a KTV room in Wuxi one night with 3 other guys and 5 other girls in the room plus mamasan and waiter.
Also had a hand job to completion in a KTV in Tianjin one night.
Still - if you are paying yourself much better off to take a w.h.o.r.e back to your hotel room - IMHO of course.
1771 (former ZY Pub) is located on Xinzha Lu at same number.
You may refer to this post [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=648853&postcount=2011[/url] containing mapping on Google Earth with locations of various popular spots at that time including ZY Pub (now 1771).
At that time concept was quite simple.
You popped in and sat in the back room where you could chose a girl and talk a little, while drinking a free beer. Then in case you liked the girl you could go in another area where you could get release, through BBBJ or FS depending on your choice, in some cubicles, so with some privacy.
Maybe current Shanghai mongers may want to update what is the system now, as I have heard that things are changed and unfortunately, it is not how it was, mainly in terms of atmosphere and quality of girls.
[QUOTE=Pamplona]
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Where is ZY Pub (now 1771)? What is the concept?
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Just returned from Shanghai where I stayed at the Four Points Sheraton. Not able to go anywhere else, I tried the sauna in the hotel. Facilities OK, Chinese and Oil Massage available. Took the latter, and was offered HJ and massage by the girl for Y650 or so. HJ was done with care, and nice. Seems to be standard to get this, but she said no FS or BJ available.
She also said that the amount they ask depends on the client. As somebody who speaks Chinese and is familiar with the scene in China, she offerred me the lowest rate, but said that they ask some guys for Y1000 or so.
She also said that in the past at a hotel in Puxi, she was occasionally able to get Y2000 for a HJ !!
She was late 20s, reasonably attractive, but did not allow any significant touching.
AL
[QUOTE=Albert Punter]1771 (former ZY Pub) is located on Xinzha Lu at same number.
You popped in and sat in the back room where you could chose a girl and talk a little, while drinking a free beer. Then in case you liked the girl you could go in another area where you could get release, through BBBJ or FS depending on your choice, in some cubicles, so with some privacy.[/QUOTE]Since people are talking about it, wanted to weigh in before anyone wasted their time. Whatever it was before it's not the same anymore. Before Spring Fest I popped in for a lookaround and saw a straight up massage place/brothel now (quoted RMB350 for the works). That being said, I've walked past it a few times since then and see Chinese dudes in cheap suits sitting in the front room--no chicks anywhere. Bad sign, methinks. Better off going up to the Kangding Lu/Xikang Lu where there are five or six pink-beckoning nests of what-look-lovelies--even three days into Spring Festival! A man could truly lose himself in that half km strip.
I was in Shanghai a few weeks ago for a very quick one night trip. I stayed at the Holiday Inn Pudong. This surprizingly is a great hotel. Stayed on the 30th floor and the room could not have been better.
Got a cab for the short trip to Sacrosa at around 7:30 that evening. Very small lineup was given (maybe 5 girls). I was surprized to see #105 in the lineup. I've read many posts on her but I had never seen her in the lineup before. All I remembered was great reports so I chose her. She is very cuten short hair and tight body.
We got into the room and this girl must have read my mind because the first thing she does is get on her knees and pull my shorts down. I very much like this approach. She is a great sucker. She sucks me for maybe 15 minutes and I blow on her lips. Great experience.
She then went to get her bag. I usually bring my own condoms but I forgot this time.
She covers me up and starts cowgirl. This is the one girl that I fit perfect (bottomed out). She loves too grind, a little too much for me. After 25 minutes or so of various positions I pull out and find my cock about choked from the damn chinese condoms. She see's my frustration and ends me with another bbbjcim.
Body 9
Attitude 9.5
BBBJ 10
Repeat - yes
Fitz
Dear all:
I will be in Shanghai week after and will stay in Westin Hotel but seems like no BBS or Saunas close to my hotel. Anyone can kindly tell me any shops or bars close by.
Cheers
[QUOTE=Crivmonbbb]Dear all:
I will be in Shanghai week after and will stay in Westin Hotel but seems like no BBS or Saunas close to my hotel. Anyone can kindly tell me any shops or bars close by.
Cheers[/QUOTE]Walk north from the Westin till you hit Hankou Lu (if you find yourself on Nanjing Donglu, the Vegas-like retail strip, you've gone too far). Turn left (west) and stroll toward People's Square. Keep strolling and you'll see 7-8 houses of the holy massage (all on the south side of the street). I've been to one and scouted the rest. These aren't BBS's, nor are they SH Hotel style saunas but somewhere in between. The one I went to was the first one you'll come to. Had some very fine hand work done there, RMB300 for an hour (I negotiated down from RMB330 in the menu). The facilities ain't gonna blow you away, but the girl gave me and my xdd total concentration for that one hour. There are other menu options at greater expense if that's your thing. For the money and experience, still suggest the trek down to Xiaomuqiao Lu for the Le Yuan Massage Parlor. Same price for 90 minutes plus you get MUCH nicer facilities (like private shower and mirror on ceiling).
Be aware that the entire area is a tourist trap and there are touts all over. Caveat emptor.
[QUOTE=Monomi]Walk north from the Westin till you hit Hankou Lu (if you find yourself on Nanjing Donglu, the Vegas-like retail strip, you've gone too far). Turn left (west) and stroll toward People's Square. Keep strolling and you'll see 7-8 houses of the holy massage (all on the south side of the street). I've been to one and scouted the rest. These aren't BBS's, nor are they SH Hotel style saunas but somewhere in between. The one I went to was the first one you'll come to. Had some very fine hand work done there, RMB300 for an hour (I negotiated down from RMB330 in the menu). The facilities ain't gonna blow you away, but the girl gave me and my xdd total concentration for that one hour. There are other menu options at greater expense if that's your thing. For the money and experience, still suggest the trek down to Xiaomuqiao Lu for the Le Yuan Massage Parlor. Same price for 90 minutes plus you get MUCH nicer facilities (like private shower and mirror on ceiling).
Be aware that the entire area is a tourist trap and there are touts all over. Caveat emptor.[/QUOTE]Hi Monomi:
Many thanks for the direction, very clear and i can find in Google map. Frankly i am a huge tits lover and i am into BBW. Big chances to find these kind of girls in those Massage place? I don't mind to pay but need to have big tits(F cup +), bigger is better:)
I guess they wouldn't allow you to screen the girls before you pay, right?
How about BBS? Bigger chances for these kind of girls?
Thanks again.
Dropped by Zhongtian Sauna. I figured it would be quiet or even closed for CNY, but I gave it a shot. It was open with a limited lineup. I picked one that was not real looker but at least she smiled which is better than the look of the other girls. I think her number was 919.
She mentioned that she had been in Shanghai for a year, but given that she was here for a year, she seemed pretty clumsy. Finally got to the action and she ok at first but then seemed to just stop halfway through the action. She pretty much said I need to stay another hour if I wanted more action. That put a damper on things and I lost my mood. I just got up and left.
[QUOTE=Crivmonbbb]Hi Monomi:
Frankly i am a huge tits lover and i am into BBW. Big chances to find these kind of girls in those Massage place? I don't mind to pay but need to have big tits(F cup +), bigger is better:)
I guess they wouldn't allow you to screen the girls before you pay, right?
How about BBS? Bigger chances for these kind of girls?[/QUOTE]You're going to want to check out the Kangding Lu/Xikang Lu strip. They have some super busty broads marinating inside. I haven't sampled yet, but from the looks of them I'm 99% sure they are FS places. From previous experience with similar little enclaves (Xiaomuqiao, for example) they will be pretty much wham bam thank you Stan for RMB200-250.
On the Hankou Lu strip or even at the real massage (not BBSs) places around Xiaomuqiao like Le Yuan/Peacock/Tertiary, you should be able to inspect if you ask, but you're not going to get a fishbowl unfortunately.
For those who are into Peacock/Tetriary type of places, there is a similar one that is on Loushangguan Rd, 1 block south from Changning Rd. It's About a 5 minute walk from the subway line 2. It's on the left hand side of a residential complex.
Anyways, small place but clean and is a decent alternative to the other ones if you are in the area. Showers in the room. They say they have about 10 girls there, but 5 were gone on holidays. RMB238 for a 90 minutes pretty good massage and HE. Best thing is that they are open 24h.
Apparently the owner has a few of them around the city, but I didnt bother asking.
BJ
I tried out Sacrosa #590 a few days back, I had been planning to check her out every since I saw the photos posted some months back. She looks amazingly hot to me in those photos!
Well service was great, she is a total nympho. I went right on the holiday—and I thought they made me wait 30 min because she was with a customer. As it turns out, it was her day off but they called her in! So here is a tip I guess, if you don't like the line-up, try throwing out some famous #'s and maybe they'll call one in for you.
Everyone else rated her awesome, so I don't want to stop anyone from trying her. For me the photos where better than her face in real life, so I don't think I'll get her again (actually I never have gotten the same girl twice anyway, it's all about fresh booty to me). But she was cool with doing it two times, and she was telling me if I don't get her next time I should get her sister which IIRC is 117 and is supposedly her real life real sister. Not sure if I will—this being my first time to request by number, I think the 'thrill' of the fishbowl is one of the best parts of the sauna experience for me!
Oh yeah BTW she has a tattoo;) that to me makes her look more slutty and hot.
[QUOTE=Ru1992]Dropped by Zhongtian Sauna. I figured it would be quiet or even closed for CNY, but I gave it a shot. It was open with a limited lineup. I picked one that was not real looker but at least she smiled which is better than the look of the other girls. I think her number was 919.
She mentioned that she had been in Shanghai for a year, but given that she was here for a year, she seemed pretty clumsy. Finally got to the action and she ok at first but then seemed to just stop halfway through the action. She pretty much said I need to stay another hour if I wanted more action. That put a damper on things and I lost my mood. I just got up and left.[/QUOTE]I've got some good service here. On my last trip, I picked out a girl with some curly type hair, and had terrific service. This trip, I saw what I thought was the same girl and picked her. I found out when she got into the room, she was not the same one, as she had a tatoo on her left breast. Turns out she was a wild one too, giving me a BJ on the air matress, and two rounds in the bed. Never even attempted a massage, but that was fine with me.
I visit SH and other cities often, and on my last trip, I reported on meeting a cute Filipino in Manhattan.
. She had given me her number, (from the Philipines), so I found myself once again sitting in Malones, and nothing there, (except Naomi in the band), and I texted her on my China phone. She responded with a Chinese number. And a few messages back and forth. She was at Manhattan, and told her to come to Malones. She did, and we had a few drinks, and listened to the band, and at the end of the night headed back to the Hilton. No money discussed. Had a great night. I told her I was planning on being in SH the next night, leave for a week, come back for a day, leave for a week and return for a few days. I gave her 200 rmb for taxi, and told her I would take care of her later. No problems. I met her late the next night. I was with some friends, and she waited at home for my message at home, then met me after I lost my friends. Once again a great night. But this night she went home.
Met her again a week later. And just want to mention, each time the sex was getting better. This time, she told me as she was getting undressed, that she was triming her pubic hair, and cut a little too much in a few spots, and it did not look good, so she decided to shave it all off, "hope I did nto mind"! Ha, a girl after my heart. Som nice dining that evening, and she really enjoyed it. As she cums, she shouts. Oh shit, oh shit.
She is a bright girl. Able to carry on good conversation with. When she wakes up in the morning, she flips on CNN and always had comments about the various news events.
I had seen her a total of 6 times on this trip, spent the night all but one time. Some time I gave her nothing, and one time she asked for some money, as it was her turn to by the food for the girls at theapartment. So I gave her 200, she asked for more, and I gave her 100 more, and she was happy. Said she does not like to cook, so she buys the food most of the time when they are eating in.
On the second last day, I took her out shopping and bought her a pair of boots for 490 RMB. And we had lunch at Pizza hut. Dropped her at her apartment, and met her again at night. On the last morning when she was about to leave, I gave her $200 (usd) and 300 RMB. She was quite pleased.
Not sure how she makes enough money to live here, as most girls are in it just for the money. She says if a guy does not click with her, she won't go with him. Money isn't everything, she says.
Her visa runs on in late Feb and I am not sure I will see her. But she plans to either to to Singapore or Hong Kong. (probably Sing, as she has been there before, and likes working in a bar where the guys just buy girls drinks), and will send me an email.
Nice GFE. I tried to be careful not to get too close, but enjoyed it, as I knew she would be leaving and it would not get too involved.
She let me take several pictures. But asked me not to post on the internet.
Not sure if you would be treated the same way, but I am sure you can find her hanging out in Manhattan for the next couple weeks.
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[QUOTE=Fly Surfing]- Do you know a good place for a nice ass and prostate massage if possible finished by a nice handjob or blowjob ?
I would like to find a place where the girl can give also a prostage massage a tit massage and Blow Job. [/QUOTE]I have been "massaged" 10 years long all over China and I did not get any real prostate massage. Even when sometimes it is on the menu, the masseuse only rubbed my anus with oiled fingers (it feels like AR) or, in one case, entered and pumped a little with her finger. But she did not really try to massage my prostate. I got an impression that in China, prostate massage is understood as rubbing the anus with lubricated fingers (like AR).
To be honest, I never got a real prostate massage in my life. So if any one knows where I can get this in ANY city in China, I would be very thankful.
Rick
[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]Personally fucked one in a KTV room in Wuxi one night with 3 other guys and 5 other girls in the room plus mamasan and waiter.
Also had a hand job to completion in a KTV in Tianjin one night.
Still - if you are paying yourself much better off to take a w.h.o.r.e back to your hotel room - IMHO of course.[/QUOTE]Thank Bad Boy Billy for his support. Of course sex is only possible in some selected KTVs. Even in these KTVs, you may need an insider to bring you in to get these services.
Actually, during my first trip to China years ago, my host brought me to a KTV after the dinner and asked all people to order Chinese or Western "desserts". I did not understand and ordered "Western". Then it came a group of girls and sit to the guests. Mine was a blond Russian girl who opened my fly immediately to give me a blow job. I was so terrified that I did not resist. It was a real orgy, some having blow jobs, some having FSs.
After this experience, I always refused to go to KTV when my hosts invited me. Not because I do not like the sex but because I am a purchaser and cannot accept any benefits from my vendors.
I heard there are dancing schools (NOT Discos or KTVs, but real dancing schools) where you can pay for dancing lessons and pick a dancing partner among a lot of girls. I was told that you can ask the girls out and negotiate any services you like. It is much cheaper than KTVs and you are dancing classic, latin dances or Salsa, not Disco.
Does any one knows such schools or even have experience?
Thank you!
Rick
I heard about a hotel near Hongqiao airport where FREE PICKUP at Hongqiao airport is provided (must be booked 24hrs before). Just a few days before the Chinese New Year I had a stop-over in Shanghai and I decided to test this hotel. A standard room is RMB 388 per night. I decided for the Luxury English Style Room for RMB 488.
[url]http://www.lacasahotel.com.cn/Price.asp[/url]
The hotel is unbelievable beautiful. The elevator (with decorations and even a big sofa coach) is as big as my garage. And the room is better than I ever have expected for the price. Not only that all pictures at website are real. I have a huge Plasma TV that I can watch not only when I am in bed, but also when I am sitting in the huge bath tub (there are enough room for 4 persons in this big tub ;-). The desk is big enough for serious business work, with 2 sockets for European and Asian plugs and internet broadband cable directly ON the table. This is actually the most convenient and comfortable room I have ever had in Shanghai for room rates under 800RMB.
There was a RMB 38 voucher for massage service on the night table. I called and learned that the “normal” full body massage is RMB 138 while the full body oil massage is RMB 338 (maybe 10 RMB more or less). This means with the voucher, the service will be RMB 100 and 300. I found RMB 100 a pretty good price for a full body massage while RMB 300 for oil massage is very expensive, as long as it is not clear whether a happy ending is included in the price or not. So I decided to begin with the normal massage. The girl on phone said because of the Chinese New Year, there are only 2 girls left. So I have to wait about 1 hr. This was fine with me since I have nothing to do and it is already late in the night.
Around 10:30pm, the door bell finally rings and there stands a petite (body 7: 160cm, well proportioned, should be Cup B), beautiful (Look 8) and sweet smiling young girl (Friendliness 9, should be 24 or 25 years old) in a uniform (10!) like Japanese stewardess with tight skirt, white blouse and colourful scarf loosely around the neck which went under the blouse. I never saw a massage girl in such a beautiful uniform in my whole life so I was at first unsure whether this is the massage girl or the hotel manager. She explained later that since there are only 2 girls left at the massage center, they must take turns taking charge of the reception counter this night so she must wear the uniform.
Though I am Chinese, she told me all massage girls here speak English and they are all freelances – they do not get any salary and must share percentage with the hotel. She has an 8 years old son who is currently in Shanghai for a health check (she spent RMB 5,000 for this health check at a famous hospital in Shanghai for her son!) and she will go back home with long distance bus the next day with her son.
When the one hour time for full body massage is over, she did not stop the massage, but changed her massage style from the normal, firm grasp to light, passing, seducing caressing. She began to touch and rub my belly and play with my nipples. I think this is a very cealr sign that there is more than happy ending available. Normally I only ask for happy endings in hotels because FS in hotels are always very expensive. While you can get very good FS at Sauna for RMB 550, massage girls at hotels always demands RMB 1,000 or more. And they are usually either angrily or sad if you say it is too expensive and you are only willing to pay xxx. This is because they usually have at most only one single business for a whole day and it really hurts them to earn less. So I have learned the rule that never to ask a massage girl at hotel for FS because since I am not willing to pay 1,000 or more, this question would ruin the day, even if they finally agreed with the cheaper price I proposed.
But this time, I got so turned on by this lovely petite girl and especially her uniform. I never know I could be turned on by a uniform. I got so hot that I decided I would be willing to pay 1,000 for getting the uniform off this girl´s body (and more, of course). But just exactly at the moment when I was about to ask about "special services", her mobile phone rang. It was from her 8-years old son who just woke up and was looking for her. She got so nervous and said she must leave immediately because she is afraid that her son may go to the hotel reception and the receptionist may tell her son she is in guest´s room doing massage (it looks like her family does not know about her work). This certainly ruined the night for me. She asked for RMB 100 but I gave her RMB 150 because she actually already spent more than 1 hr with me. She said she will “make it up” for me next time when I come again so now I am already looking forward going there again.
I will go back to this hotel, but not only because of the girl. Even though I booked the hotel as a single room, I can get two breakfasts or even better, 1 breakfast + 1 lunch or dinner. Room service is free of charge (you can let hotel bring you your breakfast, lunch and dinner to room without additional charge). Not only the Pickup from Hongqiao airport is free. I can also ask them to send me to Hongqiao airport after my hotel stay free of charge. When I want to go out, I simply call the reception and when I went down to the lobby, a taxi is already waiting there, for no additional charge. This hotel is surprisingly the most convenient and comfortable hotel I ever had in Shanghai so in the future, I would actually stay here for business purpose.
My next trip to Shanghai would be more than 1 week. I would stay in this hotel and “test” all the massage girls one by one and tell you guys about all the girls and their special services (if any) and the price, etc (since they are all freelances, their services and fees can vary a lot).
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Will be staying in the Hyatt Shangai in two weeks. Is there any activity inside the hotel bars? can I expect any additional service if I order some in room massage ?
Lastly as I will be staying one week there is there any red rope massage parlor near the hotel.
Thanks a lot in advance for your information.
[QUOTE=Rick China]I have been "massaged" 10 years long all over China and I did not get any real prostate massage. Even when sometimes it is on the menu, the masseuse only rubbed my anus with oiled fingers (it feels like AR) or, in one case, entered and pumped a little with her finger. But she did not really try to massage my prostate. I got an impression that in China, prostate massage is understood as rubbing the anus with lubricated fingers (like AR).
To be honest, I never got a real prostate massage in my life. So if any one knows where I can get this in ANY city in China, I would be very thankful.
Rick[/QUOTE]Check this forum more; quite some time back there was a thread about a place in Shanghai (near Jing'ansi) that offered this service.
[QUOTE=Rick China]I heard about a hotel near Hongqiao airport where FREE PICKUP at Hongqiao airport is provided (must be booked 24hrs before). Just a few days before the Chinese New Year I had a stop-over in Shanghai and I decided to test this hotel. A standard room is RMB 388 per night. I decided for the Luxury English Style Room for RMB 488.][/QUOTE]
Rick, An excellent report. Do you need to speak Chinese to make the reservation?
Hi Rick, I've come across this website of this hotel and have been considering it as a 'mongering refuge'. I live with my family in Shangai. Did you notice anything about the Hotel not welcoming 'overnight guests'? Thank you for your answer
[QUOTE=Rick China]I heard about a hotel near Hongqiao airport where FREE PICKUP at Hongqiao airport is provided (must be booked 24hrs before). Just a few days before the Chinese New Year I had a stop-over in Shanghai and I decided to test this hotel. A standard room is RMB 388 per night. I decided for the Luxury English Style Room for RMB 488.
[url]http://www.lacasahotel.com.cn/Price.asp[/url]
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So, just finished my week in Shanghai. Went to Sarcosa twice, Shanghai Sauna once and had and in room massage at the Shanghai Hotel.
FIRST: Went to Sarcosa on a Sunday around 3:00 in the afternoon. I was a little put off by how attentive the staff was, taking my clothes, helping me dry, I think they would have wiped my ass if I had asked them to. They also treated me like I had no idea what I was doing (then again, I am Americano. And I was a little stoned and probably seemed a bit spacey).
I have lived in Asia for a couple of years and enjoy the public baths, but they did not give me the option, they hurried me after my shower, into a room and asked me if I wanted a drink, but then said, never mind because they were ready for me. Went to the line up. About 8-10 girls available. I picked a small girl with nice size tits (I'm always worried about the push up bra factor, so she was the only one with real "jiggley" cleavage). I want to say #595, but I was pretty stoned, so maybe something else. So, we went back, good massage, didn't really like the cat bath, but the AR was great. Also, she gave me an excellent tit massage capped off by an ear massage with her tit (unbelievable feeling). Made me wonder, if I had picked a small girl, would she have done that also?
Down to the deed, pretty amazing. Good BJ in about 4 positions. First me lying down with her between my legs, then she climbed the wall with her feet so she was kind of doing a hand stand while sucking me off. Then, down on her knees with me standing, and finally, her on her back with her head off the table upside down and me standing and pumping her face.
FS was great. She was small, but she took it hard. MISH, CG, got her real deep in Doggie. Best part was standing with her lying on her back on the table. I moved her close to me so her butt was off the table and the wall was close enough, so she could push her feet against it. This allowed me to go really deep and have leverage to seriously pound her. And she took it all (I am not huge, but long and all the other girls on my vacation said I was too deep or that it hurt a bit, but she never complained or seemed bothered). Over all, abot 30 minutes of actual FS. Great Experience.
SECOND: My next experience at Sarcosa, was fine, but not as good. First, I chose the wrong girl. Got distracted by her cleavage. Probably a 6, a little heavier and not as open as the others. Also, I told her I liked it kind of rough, which was good, but that lead to a lot of teeth in her blow job. Then, she said I was too big and wouldn't try positions where I could get deep penetration, so average sex, and then she did a move that made me cum too early. Oh and her AR, not as nice. Blowing hot water up there hard. Still felt good, but over all she was just a little hard around the edges. Don't remember her number (stoned again), but she told me it over and over and I remember thinking "I'm not gonna recommend you, so I don't need to remember"
Both visits, 580 each. I like this place.
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Jim, this is a forum where men exchange information on getting laid. That means give and take. I checked your post history - and every single post you have ever made, going back to 2005, was just to ask questions. You have never even once made a contribution. What's your problem man ? Do you think we are all here just to service you ? In my opinion, your conduct is nothing but selfish.
I suggest you do your homework, stop being such a taker, and read the forum. Every question you ask has been asked again and again and again. The answers are there. I also suggest you perhaps consider actually making a contribution. I wish you well and all that, but I have rarely ever found a less contributing member of ISG.
[QUOTE=Beijing Fox]Hi Rick, I've come across this website of this hotel and have been considering it as a 'mongering refuge'. I live with my family in Shangai. Did you notice anything about the Hotel not welcoming 'overnight guests'? Thank you for your answer[/QUOTE]There have been a few reports previously on this hotel:
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=686576&postcount=2603] Silk Fan Reports [/url]
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=702764&postcount=31] Blacklisted Reports [/url]
[url=http://www.lacasahotel.com.cn/en] La Casa Hotel Website [/url]
Ordered escort here:
[url]http://www.escort-shanghai.net/model. Asp[/url]
(seems their www is not accessible from USA or maybe even not from anywhere else but China)
Those photos are not really of their girls, some "trash" arrived, I was beeing naive here, confused by well done web presentation. She was kind of nice girl (she confirmed me those photos are fake by laughing, so it was clear I am not first doing this mistake, more likely everyone did same), but still just a "trashy" peasant girl, good for RMB 200 whackshack but not for RMB2400/overnight.
I am planning on testing more of escorts, but will order only for two hours to not waste more money than necessary.
This is what I selected from Google searches to test next:
bodymassage.com.cn
chinamassagegirl.cn
massage.hk.cn
shanghaimassage.cn
I am affraid though all will be same - business not based on old, repeated customers but new suckers who are not expected to ever return :)
Went to Malone's Friday Night. Hot lead singer in the house band. This may be already general knowledge but there were tons of WGs there after. Down the street is Judy's bar or something like that. There you will find a haven of WGs and not enough men to keep them busy. I believe I was harassed by 4 or 5 girls within the 1st 2 minutes I was there. However I found a Filipino girl there at Malone's and had to go to Judy's to check in with her manager. Yea I know, I must be weird for choosing a Filipino girl in China but wtf she was hot haha.
Judy's has 2 poles that girls dance on. There were plenty of hot WGs in there- Russians, Europeans, Chinese etc and etc. Sorry that I don't remember the address because I was a little drunk.
Have been going to Sarcosa for 4 months. My style, I found a provider with whom I clicked. Continued to see her once or twice a week. Became better as we saw each other. She gave me her cell number. I would call before I was going to see her. She would be ready. My key at the desk when I arrived and asked for her, by number. She set that up. The boys in the prep room and shower knew me, by site. Always professional. Some of the greatest sex available. I speak little Chinese. She spoke little English. She went home for Chinese New Year. Gave me the number of her friend who I should see next time. I don't know if she will be back. I'll see her friend when I return to Shanghai, after Chinese New Year.
Hi all,
Newbie here, got a question: Where is Malone's and Judy's in Shanghai? I visit China about 6 to 8 times a year and would love to check out these places when I am China later this month.
PM me if anyone wants to get together for some fun.
[QUOTE=Wesyao2008]Hi all,
Newbie here, got a question: Where is Malone's and Judy's in Shanghai? I visit China about 6 to 8 times a year and would love to check out these places when I am China later this month.
PM me if anyone wants to get together for some fun.[/QUOTE]
For crying out loud, just do a friggin' Google search Weasao :(
I am not sure you should be outside unsupervised after such a question.
ES
[QUOTE=Eaglestar]For crying out loud, just do a friggin' Google search Weasao :(
I am not sure you should be outside unsupervised after such a question.
ES[/QUOTE]
Hey ES - welcome home!
Hilarious your answer to this guy - but then again, perhaps we've been mongering in China too long??!! Forgot how bewildering China can be?? All the people, all the unreadable signs, all the chaos, spitting, traffic all over the place and going in any direction, noise, smells and NO ENGLISH!! And the ever present fear of being gyped or worse, being mugged in such a disorganized place?
But you're right, lots of these newbies just don't even bother to RTFF and expect everything to be handed to them on a silver platter - as if we all get paid to just cater to them! And this guy's something else - been to China 6 to 8 times a year and he still needs to ask such a question!! I really wonder what all he's been doing here every time he comes over every month or so!!
SEAJ
[QUOTE=Albert Punter]Levitian,
Do you mean "cannabis" ?
Please, in addition be so kind to tell me what "wei ge" means.
Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]
hehehe, yes, I meant "Cannabis", and the next time, I will look into a dictionary, promised.
All the Best for the "Year of the Ox"
Levitian
[QUOTE=Mark17]I visit SH and other cities often, and on my last trip, I reported on meeting a cute Filipino in Manhattan.
Not sure how she makes enough money to live here, as most girls are in it just for the money. She says if a guy does not click with her, she won't go with him. Money isn't everything, she says.
Her visa runs on in late Feb and I am not sure I will see her. But she plans to either to to Singapore or Hong Kong. (probably Sing, as she has been there before, and likes working in a bar where the guys just buy girls drinks), and will send me an email.
Nice GFE. I tried to be careful not to get too close, but enjoyed it, as I knew she would be leaving and it would not get too involved.
She let me take several pictures. But asked me not to post on the internet.
Not sure if you would be treated the same way, but I am sure you can find her hanging out in Manhattan for the next couple weeks.[/quote]Hi Marc,
may be we are talking about the same girl. But to be honest a lot of Pinays in Manhattan are cute ones but the description of her behaviour sounds very familiar to me. So please share more informations to find her easier.
Best,
NB
[QUOTE=Wesyao2008]Hi all,
Newbie here, got a question: Where is Malone's and Judy's in Shanghai?/QUOTE]Malone's = Tongren Lu in Jing'an District
Judy's = Maoming Nan Lu in Luwan District
Just ask any concierge. They'll give you a taxi card.
Went down to check out Sarcosa today and didn't get a huge selection. Only 3 girls. I was down at noon. Not sure if I was early or still recovering from CNY.
I decided to go for 388 who is a bit on the heavier side for a Chinese girl but she had a nice look in her eyes.
Usual catbath and I could not get her off the routine. So it went longer than I would like. But I admit she was actually pretty good. Near the end she did the condom on the toe and the toe fucking. I guess it helped to her lubed up.
On to the fun part. A little titty fucking which was nice since she actually had some decent breasts. She did a nice BJ and then pulled me to the side so she could lean on the wall and push herself into me. That made for some nice moans from her. Worked her on to the table and finished nicely. She wrapped her legs around me and clenched her pussy muscles at a nice rythm. To top it off, she actually gave me a decent massage. Probably my best experience over the CNY period.
Where do you guys think I will manage best if I dont speak any chinese?
I'm thinking about Sacrosa and SH Sauna.
[QUOTE=Vista Sushi][QUOTE=Wesyao2008]Hi all,
Newbie here, got a question: Where is Malone's and Judy's in Shanghai?/QUOTE]Malone's = Tongren Lu in Jing'an District
Judy's = Maoming Nan Lu in Luwan District
Just ask any concierge. They'll give you a taxi card.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info.
I am new to shanghai area. my trips were around Beijing and northern-eastern China. Short-trips really left me not much time to check things out. up coming trips are more flexible, so I will definitely post something here afterward.
WY
Just a follow up on Parasitius previous post on sacrosa. I went to the place right before CNY and had 117. She is supposed to be a "real" sister of #590. She just started working in this SN a few days before CNY. Not much of a looker and skills in the "need improvement" category. She does amazingly deep AR but her BJ skill was lackluster, only deep throat with little tongue action. What I want to know is whether she can do a double fly with the sister.
Face 7
Body 7
Attitude 9
BBBJ 7
I was at 999 Tianyaoqaio Lu (Shanghai Stadium) yesterday. There must have been at least 15 women in the line up. All great. It was quite busy.
I like this place but they don't encourage sauna and whirlpool time. It is a very good place for soapy, red rope, and good old straight fun. 860 was excellent. A smaller girl with small breasts but some of the most enthusiastic and appreciative service. I like 999 better than SH, Sarcosa, and it has a better selection than JJ's. All places have their own attributes. Some provide good clean sauna time, lounging, manicure, etc, while others focus on the massage only. 999 is a great place for in/out. Choose your girl wisely as that makes all the difference.
For English speakers like me, you do not need to speak Mandarin at any of these places; and I could list ten more. You are the client and they are there to serve. Understand the pricing before you start and choose the girl based on attitude, then looks, and you will have a greater than 80% chance of a memorable time. Enjoy
[QUOTE=Ru1992]Went down to check out Sarcosa today and didn't get a huge selection. Only 3 girls. I was down at noon. Not sure if I was early or still recovering from CNY.
I decided to go for 388 who is a bit on the heavier side for a Chinese girl but she had a nice look in her eyes.
Usual catbath and I could not get her off the routine. So it went longer than I would like. But I admit she was actually pretty good. Near the end she did the condom on the toe and the toe fucking. I guess it helped to her lubed up.
On to the fun part. A little titty fucking which was nice since she actually had some decent breasts. She did a nice BJ and then pulled me to the side so she could lean on the wall and push herself into me. That made for some nice moans from her. Worked her on to the table and finished nicely. She wrapped her legs around me and clenched her pussy muscles at a nice rythm. To top it off, she actually gave me a decent massage. Probably my best experience over the CNY period.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Qubei]Where do you guys think I will manage best if I dont speak any chinese?
I'm thinking about Sacrosa and SH Sauna.[/QUOTE]Q
Do not worry too much about lack of language skills in Shanghai. I was there in early November (see posts Perambulations of a Pensioner) and managed at least 1 shag a day. Often 2. That included
Two visits to Shanghai Hotel (zero language skills needed there). Just say 'full service' to the lady at the entrance of the sauna and everything else will follow. You may or may not like the scrub-massage by the guy before you "attend the ladies" but personally I quite liked it. Well worth the RMB70 in my opinion.
A BBS ie ZY "pub".No language skills needed there, a girl will more or less drag you into a side room. However, language would help when negotiating the price. They ask 500. Never pay more than 250 + tip at a BBS. A local guy will even reckon that is a rip off.
A couple of pick ups at Zapata's. A Mexican/ Latin bar (one Mongolian, one local. They coped with a few words of English. They have to be able to do that in their job). Just look for girls in there that are still wearing a coat and stand to the side. They will make eye contact if you try to do so. Just nod and she will come over. A good pick up line is "noisy in here. Quieter in my hotel". She will then say a price, typically 1000. Offer 700 and it will be accepted. She will usually stay 2-3 hours, maybe longer.
A wonderful in-call girl (from Harbin) I located via Craig's List. I saw her twice including an all-nighter that was basically a freebee. She is back in Harbin. She and I are still in contact by text. I speak no Mandarin and she speaks no English. But we clicked as they say. We use translator machines in text communication. Good fun. If I get back to Shanghai I will see her a LOT.
And I am 67! If you can't do better than me you are not trying
A good map guide to Shanghai is [url]http://www.smartnamecard.com/Pages/map. Aspx? OrgID=176[/url]
The map shows many of the bars & clubs
That Smartcard system will also print out "Taxi / business cards" for many places ie cards you can show to taxi drivers
Have fun. I did.
Galinsoga
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[QUOTE=Qubei]Where do you guys think I will manage best if I dont speak any chinese?
I'm thinking about Sacrosa and SH Sauna.[/QUOTE]For me Sacrosa, Shanghai Hotel and Zhong Tian sauna work fine in English.
The girls however: you have to be lucky. There is I think no place in Shanghai where you can be sure the girl speaks English.
Anyone know anything about Pinghu? It is supposedly about an hour south of Shanghai, but I don't know much about the place and searching the forums there is little.
hoping someone in Shanghai has been down that way and knows something.
Great feedback guys.
Thanks a bunch!
Spurred by someone's report on Tertiary style massage place, I went in search. After some confusion I eventually found it. Take the Line 2 to Loushanguan Road, get out and head NORTH. BEFORE you get to Changning Lu, you'll see this place on the right. It's open 24 hrs and the damage is RMB239 for the good stuff (the massage is called a "kidney massage" or something). The girls aren't anything to write home about, but they get the job done. The room has a shower which is the added value over your run of the mill BBS. The massage is 90 minutes and there was no solicitation for/possibility of additional services. But you really won't want to with these girls, they aren't that enticing. Anyway, if you're looking to shave some RMBs off your Tertiary bill, this is the place.
BTW, the Tongqinyuan Massage Palace, written about in May last year, is open. Didn't check it out, but saw people going in. Looks interesting.
Hi guys,
is tomson (at Jin yu Lan) still in operation?
Freq to 999 but would do some hopping ard in Puxi area.
Thankz
[QUOTE=Vitc77]Hi guys,
is tomson (at Jin yu Lan) still in operation?
Freq to 999 but would do some hopping ard in Puxi area.
Thankz[/QUOTE]
I haven't been there is 6+ months to be honest, but just in case no one replies: it *is* a long standing super-famous establishment in Shanghai, so I think its safe to just assume its open and go.
I keep my eye on a lot of Chinese sites similar to this one, 99% sure if it closed I would have saw someone talking about it.
Okay ricky boy. I got a place for YOU.
Unfortunately my details may be a bit slim.
Anyways, I went to a place on Jiangning Road 2 blocks north of Changpin road (don't remember the next streets. I walked there).
Anyways if you're heading north on jiangning road and you drive past kangding road, then changpin road, you'll cross another one (haifang road I think), then in between the next block on the left you'll see a massage place. It'll have a sign dealing with "men's massage, health center" etc.
Anyways, I went into a room where there was a nice old style large wood bathtub, a separate shower, and the massage table. THe rooms are pretty good sized and nice. Out came the menu that was pretty extensive. There were all kinds of Men's treatment (even gay masseuse since the guy asked me what I wanted). That should give you the clue that there is anal play. There's one where they use toys on your "area" as well as a full on gloved with lube prostate massage / HJ. They even do enemas. (sorry to ruin the moment).
Anyways, it's a spa treatment facility only for men so you get the drift. The masseuse also wears lingerie while doing it all (for an extra charge).
Heres the catch. It's not so cheap. Basic massage with he is around 350 I think. Then it goes up from there all the way towards 700-800 for full "treatment". But there are so many packages so I'I'm sure you can find one that suits you.
Enjoy!
In the meantime, everytime I post I try to share experiences and places and haven't asked anything. So this time.
Any great recommendations for a real GENUINE massage with HE? I've been to peacock and tertiary and I think their massages are. Okay at best. But I'm talking real professional awesome massage with an extra bonus at the end. I'm tired of coaxing legit places (maybe cause my luck has dropped lately).
Cheers!
[QUOTE=Rick China]I have been "massaged" 10 years long all over China and I did not get any real prostate massage. Even when sometimes it is on the menu, the masseuse only rubbed my anus with oiled fingers (it feels like AR) or, in one case, entered and pumped a little with her finger. But she did not really try to massage my prostate. I got an impression that in China, prostate massage is understood as rubbing the anus with lubricated fingers (like AR).
To be honest, I never got a real prostate massage in my life. So if any one knows where I can get this in ANY city in China, I would be very thankful.
Rick[/QUOTE]
As far as prostate massage goes, I seriously doubt many Chinese women even know what a prostate gland is.
They would have to have some training first.
The massage shop on Xikang Lu at Kanding Lu used to more or less do a prostate massage, unfortunately that place is no good now. The girls are ugly and they are no longer trained in this intimate art.
MAB
[QUOTE=Levitian]hehehe, yes, I meant "Cannabis", and the next time, I will look into a dictionary, promised.
All the Best for the "Year of the Ox"
Levitian[/QUOTE]Originally Posted by Albert Punter
Levitian,
Do you mean "cannabis" ?
Please, in addition be so kind to tell me what "wei ge" means.
Thanks in advance
FYI, "Wei Ge" is Chinese for Viagra so I do not think he means cannabis (marajuana) though some people may beg to differ as their is some medicinal value in the latter. If you smoke that then may have a stiff tongue
Ira,
Can u share with us where to get that generic Cialis? I'm sure a few of us would appreciate the favour.....
I'd however be careful on this stuff. Last Viagra I bought over the counter at a reputable pharmacy was fake. Got dizzy on taking a pop, dry mouth,etc. Really freaked out.... Regular drugs are often fake here (last week 2 deaths reported by the newspaper on a diabetes drug...), be really careful with this kind of stuff.....
I'm sure you're well meaning, Ira, but please EVERYBODY be careful with these things. Do not play. People doctor milk and kids die. Even stronger incentive to doctor these magic pills......
[QUOTE=Ira Johnson]I have located a generic Cialis. It is made from sildenafil citrate, the same as the prescription brand in the USA, but it is significantly cheaper. As you may realize, authentic Cialis costs about 500 RMB for 5 pills about 100 RMB per pill. The generic is only 30 RMB per pill, and comes in a bottle of 10 300 RMB.
That's twice as much 'bang' for less than half the cost.
I use this myself, and I am quite pleased with it. The effects last for about 24 hours (not the 72 advertised on the bottle) and I can repeat my performances pretty much as often as I like.
Granted, this particular 'generic' is not FDA approved, but other expats in the area have used it quite a bit it is how I learned of it. Still, keep in mind the same precautions you would observe with any supplement.
I've noticed it can also be embarrassing to visit one of these stores as an expat you stand out, and the ever-helpful a-yis are suggesting all manner of items. Plus, I have found that if you do not speak much Chinese you are not certain what you will get.
With that in mind, I can deliver a bottle of 10 to you at any metro stop at your convenience. PM me.[/QUOTE]
Hi friends,
when I stay in Shanghai in coming march, my company put me in a hotel (Gumbei Garden Hotel) in the Hongqiao area (by the airport). Anyone knows places to go there or has experience in this hotel? (Spa, Massage)
Please don't tell me, that I have to use a taxi and to have go downtown all night.
[QUOTE=Parasitius]I haven't been there is 6+ months to be honest, but just in case no one replies: it *is* a long standing super-famous establishment in Shanghai, so I think its safe to just assume its open and go.
I keep my eye on a lot of Chinese sites similar to this one, 99% sure if it closed I would have saw someone talking about it.[/QUOTE]Hi thanz.
It been a long while (6mths) not visiting there. Which other MP you freq to beside tomson (in Puxi area)? Right now, I only know 999 and tomson.
[QUOTE=Ira Johnson]I have located a generic Cialis. It is made from sildenafil citrate, the same as the prescription brand in the USA, but it is significantly cheaper. As you may realize, authentic Cialis costs about 500 RMB for 5 pills – about 100 RMB per pill. The generic is only 30 RMB per pill, and comes in a bottle of 10 – 300 RMB.
That's twice as much 'bang' for less than half the cost.
I use this myself, and I am quite pleased with it. The effects last for about 24 hours (not the 72 advertised on the bottle) and I can repeat my performances pretty much as often as I like.
Granted, this particular 'generic' is not FDA approved, but other expats in the area have used it quite a bit – it is how I learned of it. Still, keep in mind the same precautions you would observe with any supplement.
I've noticed it can also be embarrassing to visit one of these stores as an expat – you stand out, and the ever-helpful a-yis are suggesting all manner of items. Plus, I have found that if you do not speak much Chinese you are not certain what you will get.
With that in mind, I can deliver a bottle of 10 to you at any metro stop at your convenience. PM me.[/QUOTE]
The following info is from the pills that Slower Better bought for us at the wholesale sex instrument/sex aid market in Guangzhou.
First, Please note that GENUINE Cialis (which I buy through my doctor in Hong Kong) contains Tadalafil and the maximum dosage of a Lilly genuine product is 20 mg.
Chinese made Shanchai (or imitation) Cialis - supposedly made either by Lilly Icos or Lieet Icos - should also contains this Tadalafil - and comes either in bottles of 10 tablets marked C50 (indicating 50 mg supposedly) or in boxes of four individually blister packed 20 mg pills.
Sildenafil citrate - what you say is in your Cialis pills - is actually what is in Viagra tablets. By the way, my Shanchai Viagra tablets even has that hologram sticker - which changes from Pfizer and Vagra depending on what angel you look at it - to make it look very very close to the genuine product.
The Cialis packaging is not that good and the Green color of the genuine Cialis product, is more brown than green on the Shanchai product. By the way, Slower Better got the above products for us at way way much cheaper prices.
SEAJ
Uwe,
Your hotel will be likely "Gubei" Garden, not "Gumbei". There are ZILLIONS of posts in this Board on getting laid or accessing all kinds of services in the Honqiao area. Please do your duty (and do us a favour) and RTFF. If you ask, you have simply not searched.
Anyway, you'll not be in the center of action, as reported in this Forum...... IMHO.
Now that I think of it, could we, SH regulars, write a series of no-brainer guides by neighbourhood? It's true newbies do not prepare their homework, but, to their credit, having only an "East China-Shanghai" header for a 20 Million pax city is not convenient, either? This city is bigger than many European countries?
Or could we ask Jackson to open a few subforums, by neighbourhood? Might be a better solution in the end..... Any advice out there?
[QUOTE=Uwe Will]Hi friends,
when I stay in Shanghai in coming march, my company put me in a hotel (Gumbei Garden Hotel) in the Hongqiao area (by the airport). Anyone knows places to go there or has experience in this hotel? (Spa, Massage)
Please don't tell me, that I have to use a taxi and to have go downtown all night.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Drainaps]Uwe,
Or could we ask Jackson to open a few subforums, by neighbourhood? Might be a better solution in the end..... Any advice out there?[/QUOTE]Although I am not a senior member, I found my way through all posts and have now a fair idea what the city has to offer.
What I find most annoying is the search engine of this site. You often see "RTFF" but this takes really too much time to find something sepcific.
Different sections could indeed be helpful or just a better search engine with the request to the contributors to put in the title of their message: the type and name of the location they visited / have a question about.
Another option is to have 1 thread with 1 complete list of all known places: type - name - location - short remark.
I.E.
1. Sauna - Shanghai Hotel Sauna - Wulumuqi lu 505 - Easy place to access, nice selection of girls, red rope service, 700RMB
2. BBS - ...
Etc etc.
Uwe,
There are many places near Hongchio Airport. BBS, Sauna's, Massage places, KTV's. Get out and walk around and you will find them.
I stay on Gubei Road regularly and there are 3 BBS within 1 block on MaoTai Road, a big sauna on Gubei Rd, and many "massage" places on Xianxia Road.
[QUOTE=Night Bear]Hi Marc,
may be we are talking about the same girl. But to be honest a lot of Pinays in Manhattan are cute ones but the description of her behaviour sounds very familiar to me. So please share more informations to find her easier.[/QUOTE]..when you look at her, she has a birthmark above her left eye.
Cute face, good personality. Her complextion is not the greatest in the morning, but with make up it is ok.
Gubei
There are many good places around this area, if you want to try the other end of the Gubei road:
For a good massage and relaxed HE try a small row of MPs in Guyang Road, near the junction with Gubei Road. Yuming is good, 250 for 2 hour massage, 100 - 200 tip for the girls, at least make sure they get something out of it.
For a good sauna experience, try the Mandarine City club house, floor 3, full works for 600 rmb.
In my view, no need to go into town, go where the locals go.
[QUOTE=Mark17]..when you look at her, she has a birthmark above her left eye.
Cute face, good personality. Her complextion is not the greatest in the morning, but with make up it is ok.[/QUOTE]Yes, and also a birthmark on the right cheek. She is defenitely not a newbie as mentioned in your November report a lot of mileage on the clock like her friend. Minimum since March she is in Shanghai I heart from her friend that she has been a man eater in the Philippines. But with this acting she seemes to be very successful. Look at my report from 11-28-2009. I dined also a lot of times and heart this "Oh shit Oh shit" while playing with her big tits :) As you have said not a rookie in the sack but sex becomes better and better from time to time. I am quite sure also a lot of other bros did her just due to her amazing eyes and this newbie behaviour.
Be forwarned
NB
[QUOTE=Drainaps]
Or could we ask Jackson to open a few subforums, by neighbourhood? Might be a better solution in the end..... Any advice out there?[/QUOTE]
Um... [url]www.google.com?[/url] For those behind the GFWoC, you can use a proxy.
But I agree that the info on this forum - as great as it is - could use some organization. Not sure about China, but in some other locales I've seen people using personalized Google Maps which are editable by multiple participants. Only issue is that it requires a google (gmail) account, and since google is "cooperating" with the PRC on censorship, there could be some legitimate concerns about privacy (or lack thereof).
I was just at a MP on Guyang Rd. and the cops busted the place. They let me go, had a short conversation with one of the cops,seems as if this area is getting some heat.
i would avoid that area, unless you enjoy encounters with pe. i used to live there (1 block away) for about 2 years and pe raids were as frequent as twice a week. i used to go to a cafe a couple blocks down and i would regularly see plain clothes pe chatting with some of the staff. what i heard at the time was that since a lot of expat families from korea and taiwan lived in the area as well as affluent locals, pe was on a mission to clean up any non legit business.
i experienced a raid about 3 years ago, fortunately i just got in and still had all my clothes on. the officer just peeked in the room, gave me a suspicious look and left.
wobudong
[quote=john clit]i was just at a mp on guyang rd. and the cops busted the place. they let me go, had a short conversation with one of the cops,seems as if this area is getting some heat.[/quote]
[QUOTE=Night Bear]Yes, and also a birthmark on the right cheek. She is defenitely not a newbie as mentioned in your November report a lot of mileage on the clock like her friend. Minimum since March she is in Shanghai I heart from her friend that she has been a man eater in the Philippines. But with this acting she seemes to be very successful. Look at my report from 11-28-2009. I dined also a lot of times and heart this "Oh shit Oh shit" while playing with her big tits :) As you have said not a rookie in the sack but sex becomes better and better from time to time. I am quite sure also a lot of other bros did her just due to her amazing eyes and this newbie behaviour.
Be forwarned
NB[/QUOTE]Yes, this is the same girl. Not sure if your remark "be forewarned" is warranted. If you hit it off, you will have a good time, and as you say the sex becomes better each time. The last night we went from the bed to the chair to the desk back to the bed before we both collapsed. LOL.
Just becareful not to get sucked into the gfe experience and you will be ok.
[QUOTE=Ira Johnson]I have located a generic Cialis. It is made from sildenafil citrate, the same as the prescription brand in the USA, but it is significantly cheaper. As you may realize, authentic Cialis costs about 500 RMB for 5 pills – about 100 RMB per pill. The generic is only 30 RMB per pill, and comes in a bottle of 10 – 300 RMB.
That's twice as much 'bang' for less than half the cost.
I use this myself, and I am quite pleased with it. The effects last for about 24 hours (not the 72 advertised on the bottle) and I can repeat my performances pretty much as often as I like.
Granted, this particular 'generic' is not FDA approved, but other expats in the area have used it quite a bit – it is how I learned of it. Still, keep in mind the same precautions you would observe with any supplement.
I've noticed it can also be embarrassing to visit one of these stores as an expat – you stand out, and the ever-helpful a-yis are suggesting all manner of items. Plus, I have found that if you do not speak much Chinese you are not certain what you will get.
With that in mind, I can deliver a bottle of 10 to you at any metro stop at your convenience. PM me.[/QUOTE]I found a shop in Beijing, down the street right next to the HRC, where I can buy the generic Cialis, two bottles 10 pills each bottle for 300 rmb.
Sometimes the pills are yellow like Cialis, other times black, but either way. They work good.
[QUOTE=Uwe Will]Hi friends,
when I stay in Shanghai in coming march, my company put me in a hotel (Gumbei Garden Hotel) in the Hongqiao area (by the airport). Anyone knows places to go there or has experience in this hotel? (Spa, Massage)
Please don't tell me, that I have to use a taxi and to have go downtown all night.[/QUOTE]Yu Ping/999 sauna (seach for the business card I posted) is not too far from Hongqiao. Show the card to your driver, he'll take you there. Grab one of your hotel business cards before you leave to show to the driver on the way back. Taxi's are cheap.
Don't let taking a ride intimidate you.
E
Went down to check out the place this afternoon and the selection is still rather limited. Only 4 girls to choose from. I ended up with 51 who was a bit shorter and slimmer than what I normally like but she gave me a nice look.
Got to the room and when she took off her heels and tied up her hair, I could swear she was just too young. But I guess asian girls generally look young for their age. She ended up being quite the horny girl and we had a great time. She was quite a little dynamo. Only downside that the bed was so hard and we banged so hard that I got bruises all over the place.
[QUOTE=Lex Moon]Rick, An excellent report. Do you need to speak Chinese to make the reservation?[/QUOTE]Rick,
Your Lacasa Hotel sounds great, but as a Westerner, I have no Chinese skills.
I tried the website, but can not find an english version. How can I make a reservation and get the great treatment you got?
Thanks for your help.
My apologies to the experts (Rick and World Guy Sh).
I found the english version of the Lacosa website (lacasahotel.com.cn/en). While I was unable to make an "on line" reservation, I emailed the sales contact and will give this a try.
I will report back, for those with language disabilities like me.
Thanks for all ideas and tips for Hongqiao area and the Gubei Hotel.
@Drainaps - you were right - I used the "search" function. A little tricks to use the right words, but I got lots of reports for Hongqiao. So sorry for for not looking before.
I will be there mid of March and hopefully, I can also add some reports for this area in Shanghai.
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]The following info is from the pills that Slower Better bought for us at the wholesale sex instrument/sex aid market in Guangzhou.
Chinese made Shanchai (or imitation) Cialis - supposedly made either by Lilly Icos or Lieet Icos - should also contains this Tadalafil - and comes either in bottles of 10 tablets marked C50 (indicating 50 mg supposedly) or in boxes of four individually blister packed 20 mg pills.
The Cialis packaging is not that good and the Green color of the genuine Cialis product, is more brown than green on the Shanchai product. By the way, Slower Better got the above products for us at way way much cheaper prices.
SEAJ[/QUOTE]
Hi SEAJ
Any chance you could post a picture of Shanchai here so that we can take it into the pharmacy and show them to avoid any misunderstanding.
How much did you pay for it?
Will be going to Shanghai (in fact China for the first time) in early March and I speak zero Chinese. Staying at the heart if the Pudong financial district. Any fellow ISG members here who wants to catch up please PM me.
Due to my green status in this part of the world I am looking at Craig's list.
Is ISG accessible from China? Just wondering if it may be a victim of internet censorship I heard so much about.
poopbunny
if you're staying at the heart of luijiazui, trust me you've a few alternatives to craiglist within a 10' / 2 usd taxi ride. you need zero mandarin skills:
i)take a card with your hotel address from reception to be able to show to taxi driver when you come back.
ii) world plaza b2 (second basement). ask hotel concierge ro write for you in chinese "take me to the intersection of pudong nan lu and dong chang lu". the building you're looking for is a reddish octogonal granite building accross from where the taxi driver will drop you, to the right of gm's showroom and hqs. take escalators or elevator to b2.
ii) sacrosa: go first to nextage dept. store, very close to b2. any taxi driver will know:
nextage dept. store (ba bai ban): 501 zhang yan lu, near pu dong nan lu.
501,,
then , at the back of the dept store, there's a wide pedestrians-only alleyway. turn down that alley and bear left 50m until you see steak king on your right, and ramen noodle shop on your left.
elevator to 5f is directly accross from the back mall entrance, between ibc coffee and steak king. interesting ladies to explore are #503 376, 515, 105, 562.
iii) massage shops: intersection of pu dong nan lu and wei fan lu, 5 min from above. i've only tried the one called "tequila". nice place.
these 3 should keep you busy and well taken care of for all of your stay. you will read of the shanghai hotel sauna in this thread, which is at least 40' by taxi from lui jia zui. you won't be disappointed by choosing sacrosa instead.
forum is indeed blocked in china. pm if you need help.
be careful out there.
[quote=poopbunny]hi seaj
staying at the heart if the pudong financial district. any fellow isg members here who wants to catch up please pm me.
due to my green status in this part of the world i am looking at craig's list.
is isg accessible from china? just wondering if it may be a victim of internet censorship i heard so much about.[/quote]
[quote=poopbunny]hi seaj
any chance you could post a picture of shanchai here so that we can take it into the pharmacy and show them to avoid any misunderstanding.
how much did you pay for it?
will be going to shanghai (in fact china for the first time) in early march and i speak zero chinese. staying at the heart if the pudong financial district. any fellow isg members here who wants to catch up please pm me.
due to my green status in this part of the world i am looking at craig's list.
is isg accessible from china? just wondering if it may be a victim of internet censorship i heard so much about.[/quote]
slower better charged me the true wholesesale price he got and thus its not relevant.
in the picture you have requested for, please note that the lower left hand cialis box and product is the genuine stuff, whilst the others are all fakes. apologize that its not such a good picture as i really am bad at taking pictures - but hopefully it's of some use to you and others.
isg is accessible if you use a proxy - get on google and input "free proxy list" and you will get to a site which will give you literally hundreds of these proxy sites. try a few of them to see if you can get on isg - you will eventually get one which will allow you to do so.
i usually succeed using turbohide, but on this proxy, somehow you gotta type "internationalsexguide" twice before you get on.
have fun!
seaj
[QUOTE=Mark17]Yes, this is the same girl. Not sure if your remark "be forewarned" is warranted. If you hit it off, you will have a good time, and as you say the sex becomes better each time. The last night we went from the bed to the chair to the desk back to the bed before we both collapsed. LOL.
Just becareful not to get sucked into the gfe experience and you will be ok.[/QUOTE]Hahaha that's what I thought :) and don't forget the bath tube or standing just behind the entrance door. You are right a special girl full of surprises making an old bear sometimes looking stupid.
NB
Went back to Sacrosa and decided to try #503 that has been reported so highly. She was available and when she came to meet me I must say I was a little disappointed. Not the looker I expected and had some acne.
We passed a lineup on our way to the room and there were some stunners! Made me sorry I did not try pot-luck.
Overall, her service was good, some AR, daty, digits in holes, 69 then the deed. She was good but for me it was hard thinking I could have had either #590 who is gorgeous or another beauty there. Nice price at only 550 RMB.
I have not been able to find someone at Sacrosa that is into GFE like I did at B2 World Plaza. Anyone else? Has anyone been to B2 lately? Haven't seen any reports recently from there.
Also found another Sauna on Nanjing Rd at one of the copy malls, 6th Floor called Feng Ding Yuan Club. They charge 680 and it seems similar to Sacrosa. Anyone heard of it? It is the 580 Nanjing Xi Rd.
Let's see some more reports guys.
MD40
I will be shortly in Shanghai and looking for a good hotel in the area. I tried the Eton Hotel which was recommended here, but contrary the rate in the web of RMB 700 they suddendly wanted around 1200. Anyone here who can recommend a hotel for around 650-800? Thanks guys
Can anyone recommend a good hotel in the area. I tried the Eton Hotel but the rate the offer in the www of 700 was not kept when contacting them, they wanted 1200. So I am searching for a similar hotel in the price range of 600-800. Suggestions?
Thank you for help
Visited Shanghai a couple of weeks ago and had some free (other than drinks with an amateur shanghai girl that I met on Craigslist. This was my first try with Craigslist and I must say that the sex was terrible and the girl would not leave until after breakfast the following day. Next time I will spend the 800 rmb it takes for a professional.
[QUOTE=Ermano69]Can anyone recommend a good hotel in the area. I tried the Eton Hotel but the rate the offer in the www of 700 was not kept when contacting them, they wanted 1200. So I am searching for a similar hotel in the price range of 600-800. Suggestions?
Thank you for help[/QUOTE]
Go to ctrip dot com.
Eton Hotel has Queen room for 688 RMB a night, taxes included.
Pay cash when arrive at hotel (plus deposit).
Ctrip is a very reliable service. Been using it for years (like many others on this board I am sure) with no problems whatsoever.
[QUOTE=Cooler Wolf2]Go to ctrip dot com.
Ctrip is a very reliable service. Been using it for years (like many others on this board I am sure) with no problems whatsoever.[/QUOTE]
I use Ctrip regularly to buy domestic China tickets. Response is very fast.
Heard that Nanfang Huisho has open. Anyone got ideas how to go there?
Nanfang Huisho mainly seconded from 999. This is the source of infor I heard and the room is larger than 999. Is it true? But not sure about the rate.
Any freq Nanfang visitor?
Have any one been to the village bbs this week?
I was there a few weeks ago.
There were only a few bbs around Hangzhou rd open, with only 2-3 girls.
Most of the bbs at Wuzhong rd are closed.
Fast Eddie 48
Hello everyone,
I have heard that this site is blocked in China and I haven't been able to access it when I am in ShangHai, yet I notice that it seems many of the people posting are living in China. Is there some way to access this site?
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Hi Jay Tea,
This is right on the Forum's Front Page.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-proxyservers.php
All you had to do was look.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
Emailed directly the Lacosa hotel's email contact. It took a few days, but she booked for me with a Deluxe King Size Room and two breakfasts for 488 ($71).
Rick, any suggestions to get the Massage coupon?
[QUOTE=No Will]My apologies to the experts (Rick and World Guy Sh).
I found the english version of the Lacosa website (lacasahotel.com.cn/en). While I was unable to make an "on line" reservation, I emailed the sales contact and will give this a try.
I will report back, for those with language disabilities like me.[/QUOTE]
i ventured to the merrylin sauna in pudong the other day. it's located on the 3f in the merrylin hotel across from the intercontinental hotel.
there is an attendant who speaks english and the shower facilities are cleaner than b2. i was shown the fishbowl and saw no real stunners (5-7). based on another contributers report i went with #77. physically she's not my standard fare. 38c-27-38, 5'7ish, 125lbs., early 20's. i believe she's mongolian with nice eyes on a rather round flat face.
she led me to a room with a massage table and seperate bed. did a dry bodyslide followed by a sensual catbath. she tried to rim me, but i'm not into that. asked me to flip and her blowjob skills are excellent. she knows how to vary depth, suction and speed with a little hand play. my favorite part is how she makes the cute sounds like it's her last meal. on with the hat and positions herself above me cowgirl style while rubbing the head of my cock between her legs and pussy. she teases me like this for awhile and have to admit it's pretty damn hot! she's not the best looking girl i've been with in shanghai, but she does exude an aura of ####iness. flipped her over to mish and pounded her for 15-20 minutes before i ran out of steam so she finished me off bbbjtc.
she gave me a light massage afterwards. massage was nothing special.
l (face): 6 (would be lower, but i like her eyes)
l (body): 6 (bigger boned that what i like)
s: 8
a: 8 (communication was limited, but i could tell she wanted me to be happy)
donation: 600rmb (with vip member card) ~70 minutes
repeat: probably not.
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Hi, let me post report on BBS scene.
I visited Shanghai recently and went to search for some nice MP girls. I asked taxi driver to take me to some road with lots of MPs. He took me to Qingyu lu next to Qilianshan nanlu. The ride from city center costs about 40-50 RMB.
If you walk Qingyu lu from this crossroad, there are about 30 BBS on both sides, nice selection, many girls look nice and are dressed sexy. Went to two places there - the first one was a little disappointment as the room was no luxury and bed was small. But the other place was much nicer, big bed, aircon. FS is 200 (You should tip the girl and negotiate the price with the papa). Service was very ok for that price, but of course they want you to leave fast.
I think the best way to get good service in BBSs is first to have a normal massage (50 RMB ussually) and if you find the girl attractive and in good mood you can go for more. Otherwise you just leave the place with no damage (well, 50 RMB only) and go to look for another place and girl.
Nice job Martinsh and Bedlam. It is nice to see not only more reports here but from new members. Thanks.
I visited a couple of BBS on Pudong Ave and one on a side street. I only take 200 RMB with me and tell the girls that is all I have and show them. I don't trust myself as the little head sometimes start to do the thinking.
Anyhow, both places nice looking girls big ta tas but as soon as the door is closed they spread their legs and just expect you to put it in and finish as fast as you can. If I am not revved up it is sometimes difficult to complete within the expected 10 min. or so.
It is a lot cheaper than the saunas but I am thinking the whole sauna experience is much nicer and at least the girls pretend to like being with you.
Another place I check out also out in Pudong is a foot massage place. I think this could be one of the best deals around. Go in for a 30-40 RMB foot massage for 45-60 min. Then they ask you if you want to go upstairs for a massage for 100 RMB. Fairly okay massage for 35 min. then they find Willie and massage him also until he is tired. Walk out after nearly 2 hrs. for only 140 RMB. I think it is much better than some of the chatter here about massage places for nearly 200 sometime with sometimes without the HE.
Just my liang miao.
MD40
I am still interested in meeting up with someone for KTV or Bar scene. Let me know if interested.
Location: Immediately across the from Malone's on 255 Tongren Lu
Price: Expensive at 892 RMB for complete package
Cleanliness: Excellent, maybe the best.
Décor: Beautiful, well appointed. Feels like a true Five-Star Hotel
Sauna Area: Brand new throughout. Dry sauna is all-new with large heated rock racks. Dip pools are large and varied in temperature. Shower area is terrific. Tiled private stalls with large rain-forest shower heads. The
Bathroom to the side of sauna area is spotless and quite nice.
Resting Rooms have individual lockers with the capacity to seat four people per room.
Massage Rooms: Very nice, new massage tables, individual lounge chair, and decorative wash basin and faucet. Recessed track lighting overhead.
Recommended Usage: Given the pricing, this sauna serves as an alternative to walking down the street to Manhattan for take out. Alternately, you could be drinking late at Malone's and not feel like taking a cab to another sauna. So, just walk across the street. Or, perhaps, you've got business in the area, grab a burger at Malone's, and, find yourself with a couple of hours to burn before your next meeting. Step across the street. It's all about convenience in a pricy neighborhood, which allows them to set the rate accordingly. Interesting business plan.
The New Happy Garden Sauna is a pricy alternative to many other places: 892 RMB for the complete package. This is largely attributable to two factors: First, it's been renovated to a very high quality standard, with décor rivaling a five star hotel. Second, it's in a high-rent district with the Portman Ritz Carlton only a block or so away, and the luxury-brand Plaza 66 just beyond that.
Entering the Sauna you'll descend a long winding staircase to the floor below where you'll find a friendly staff. The menu is posted on a flat screen computer terminal at the reception desk. An attendant explains the charges and pricing.
Then it's off to small four-person resting rooms with individual lockers, a flat screen on the wall, and comfortable chairs. A beverage of your choice is offered.
After changing, it's on to the shower area, which I've described above. Following the shower, a body Chinese-style body scrub is available (perhaps at an additional charge, though I'm not sure, as I declined the scrub).
Then it's on to the selection.
Note: during Chinese New Year I ventured across the street following a burger at Malone's just to check the place. During that time, they selected a girl who was waiting in the room when I arrived. She was a 7 on a hard grading scale, but gets a 10 for attitude and service (I don't recall the number). From this experience, I assumed they were a server-type set up. Again, at a pricy 892 RMB had to remind myself about convenience and pricy neighborhood.
Recently, I had time to consider 'convenience' again while I was in the area of the Portman Ritz Carlton. So I returned for another 'pricy' time filler.
This time however, I was led down a long corridor that was very nice. At the end was another reception desk. We turned right, and then left. Instead of being in a massage room, I was in a small selection room with one-way glass. Button pushed, and divider rises. And on the other side of the glass were five excellent choices. Maybe it was my lucky day, but they ranged form 7.5 – 9. A lady in yellow won the day (I think she was number 21). Very attractive indeed.
Off to the massage room, which, again, is described above,
The service included all the usual routine that's been written before, e.g., short massage, cat bath, bbbj, suit up, and go. What’s interesting though, was the kind of 'newness' of the service provider. Clearly she knew what she was doing, but it was also clear that she was not a seasoned pro (like, say 562 at Sacrosa who can really get it done. Quick note to Sacrosa fans: 562 told me that she has a sister that works there 552. Of course, it's hard to determine the accuracy of this, but she was quite clear about 'Mei Mei' being 552, and to ask for her if she (562) was not there.) Back to the lady in yellow. She really went at it with a special attention to detail, as if she wanted to get it right and provide excellent service. Accordingly, this is why she gets a 10 for attitude.
Following the session (I believe it was 75 minutes) it was back to the shower and from there the resting room to change clothes.
In my view, the New Happy Garden Sauna provides a high-end look and fell that fits with the neighborhood, as in, the Portman Ritz Carlton and Plaza 66. Clearly, they have set the price-point at a rate they think the the market can bear, given the alternatives in the area (e.g., negotiating for take out at Manhattan or another Tongren Lu bar, or a cab to another nearby venue such as SH or the sauna at 609 JiaZhou Lu, up past the URBN Hotel, which is located at 183 JiaZhou Lu).
At bottom though, it's an eye-opener to step up to the desk and put down 900 RMB and get back 8 in change. Yes, it’s a pricy alternative, and you know that going in, given the high-end neighborhood. The difficulty lies in trying to match the service level to the 892 RMB price tag. I had to keep reminding myself that the renovation costs money…and, again, convenience in an upscale area has a price.
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[QUOTE=Maddog40]
Anyhow, both places nice looking girls big ta tas but as soon as the door is closed they spread their legs and just expect you to put it in and finish as fast as you can. If I am not revved up it is sometimes difficult to complete within the expected 10 min. or so.
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MD40,
Unfortunately, what you guys describe is a typical BBS experience. Their income is dependent on turnover. The more time they spend in the lineup and the less time in the room, the more potential for income.
I do a lot of BBS girls. I find that if you repeat a girl or become a regular patron at a certain shop, you will get better service. I also get better service in BBS run by mamasans rather than a papasans but most of the BBS I've been to in SH have papasans. I also find that you get better service if you take them out rather than do them onsite but I've noticed many BBS in Shanghai don't allow this or want a lot more money for it. However, if you can get them off their turf and negotiate directly with the girl for an "extra" tip for good service, you can usually slow them down a bit.
You can also try to agree on the amount of time but that is still not of guarantee of no rush. Basically, once you pop, the show is over.
Basically, I reckon the vast majority of BBS clientele are just looking to stick it in for a quick release which is a reinforcement factor.
Just my POV.
OAH
[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]MD40,
Basically, I reckon the vast majority of BBS clientele are just looking to stick it in for a quick release which is a reinforcement factor.
Just my POV.
OAH[/QUOTE]
OAH,
I agree with you. Just as candy at the end of the aisle or fast food is tempting, I need more of a connection with the girl than a warm moist (or not) place to put it. So, I am going to swear off the BBSs (but don't hold me to it).
I have found a new adventure that I really like. I walk up and down the streets looking for foot massage places that look legit but a little less formal than the typical massage houses. What I have found is some are legit and give great foot massages (xi jiao) for 40 RMB or so. If that is all they offer then I get a great massage for 60 minutes and it costs about $6.
But here is what else I am finding. Last night I went to a legit looking foot massage place and waited for my attendant. She was not overly beautiful and slightly chunky but she turned out to be the mongering (at least my) jewel.
She spent an hour massaging my feet and had such a great personality, always smiling, funny, trying very hard to make sure I was pleased and had an innocence about her. I still did not know where this was going. The room had a typical foot massage chair and massage table that gave me a clue but again, she was very charming and gave off this innocence. It was past time for her to leave (midnight) after the foot massage but she asked if I wanted anything else (like an mo). I said sure if she did not mind staying past closing time.
She brought shorts for me and left for me to change. After a nice massage she asked if I wanted my middle massaged. She was embarrassed to ask but I said yes. As I laid face down, she sat behind me and put my legs over hers to give her access to everything as it propped me above the table. It was very nice but I still think this is going to be a nice HE. She did ask for a xiao fei and I agreed.
After she flips me over she takes off her top and starts giving me a great bbbj. She had said she worked there for two years and I was her first American. She now says da, I know, they all say it and I am not that da. But she goes very deep and gives one of the best bbbj I have ever received. At least as good as any sauna girl and some are very good at it. So, I return the favor with some daty and she loves it. When we begin to do the deed she would have let me go uncovered but I brought one just in case.
I took my time, there was full DFK and she grabbed me as we both finished.
This was the full GFE and very enjoyable, better than a sauna experience (which I like) and much more fulfilling than a BBS. So, I asked her about the xiao fei (tip) and she wanted to leave it to me. I wanted her to name it as this could be set for future use also. She suggested 300 RMB (plus the 110 for foot and full massage). I didn't even try to bargain with her. She worked for 2.5 hours and gave me much pleasure for 410 RMB. How can I complain about that? Next will be to try to get her to the room. Her hours are 11:30 am to 11:30 pm every day so I may have to wait until after her shift or to pay the massage rate for the last hour and take her back with me.
So, this is my new type of adventure. It is inexpensive, you get the thrill of the hunt, may get a good experience and if not, at least a nice foot massage for a few bucks.
I'll let you know of more trips but I think I found my watering hole.
Best,
MD40
[QUOTE=Maddog40] I am still interested in meeting up with someone for KTV or Bar scene. Let me know if interested.[/QUOTE]I may be up for a night out later this week. Did you have any places in mind?
EMQ
Ok, went back to my new-found watering hole tonight for another foot massage (see previous report). It was nice to see her and she was happy to see me. We had some nice talking and I asked her if she wanted to come to my hotel after work. She was really excited so I get my first take-out.
She came in, started kissing me, taking my clothes off, go to shower etc. All was great. Started with massages, kisses, daty, bbbj, long fcuking and she said she gao cao (orgasm) but not me. She must have D.T. me for twenty min. and it felt so nice but no shot. She kept playing and after another 30 min or so I shot off in her mouth.
From that moment on I noticed her thighs were a little thicker, butt a little bigger, cuteness started to become annoying etc. she showered, came to give me a massage as I worked on the computer and I am just hoping she is ready to leave. She asked if I would sleep if she stayed over but I told her probably not so she got ready to leave. Things would be so lovely if the little head always did the thinking but then we would never get anything done would we.
Now she knows where my hotel is and I really don't want her around with my associates. I don't think there will be a problem but I'm not that interested in seeing her again. She really is sweet, but things change (overnight).
This place she works at is pretty cool. Like a mini sauna with full works. Let me know if anyone wants address or directions. Very cheap and nice service.
All the best,
MD40
[QUOTE=Maddog40]Ok, went back to my new-found watering hole tonight for another foot massage (see previous report). It was nice to see her and she was happy to see me. We had some nice talking and I asked her if she wanted to come to my hotel after work. She was really excited so I get my first take-out.
She came in, started kissing me, taking my clothes off, go to shower etc. All was great. Started with massages, kisses, daty, bbbj, long fcuking and she said she gao cao (orgasm) but not me. She must have D.T. me for twenty min. and it felt so nice but no shot. She kept playing and after another 30 min or so I shot off in her mouth.
From that moment on I noticed her thighs were a little thicker, butt a little bigger, cuteness started to become annoying etc. she showered, came to give me a massage as I worked on the computer and I am just hoping she is ready to leave. She asked if I would sleep if she stayed over but I told her probably not so she got ready to leave. Things would be so lovely if the little head always did the thinking but then we would never get anything done would we.
Now she knows where my hotel is and I really don't want her around with my associates. I don't think there will be a problem but I'm not that interested in seeing her again. She really is sweet, but things change (overnight).
This place she works at is pretty cool. Like a mini sauna with full works. Let me know if anyone wants address or directions. Very cheap and nice service.
All the best,
MD40[/QUOTE]Dear Maddog40, yes, please, tell us the details/coordinates of this watering hole(s)..thanks!
[QUOTE=Vilberto]Just got back from waves. Noticed that it raised its price from 700 to 880.
If you buy the membership card for 100, they will give you 100yuan discount immediately for this visit and the subsequent visit which makes it 780yuan.
The reason for the price hike: Waves is now a Soapies.......
Will leave it to your own valuation whether waves is worth it or not.
(Hint: I do not like price hike)[/QUOTE]
Just curious... anyone know if Waves still does the three part leg massage? It was feet, legs, and the third leg - ninety minutes of massage for 550RMB or something like that? I went several times but it's been over a year now since I've been to SH.
Any other sauna do this kind of service???
Looking forward to SH in day for a couple of days. Cheers!
Hi Maddog!
I would be interested to check out this place you are talking about.
Would appreciate address.
Thanks
Hi Guys,
I will be in town. Probably from this Sunday evening for a few days. I was wondering whether there is anybody around who would like to team up to explore some of the bars and clubs. I am not a huge sauna fan but am more into checking girls out at bars/ hotel bars/ clubs. Anyone interested to grab some beers?
I don't seem to be able to post, why is that?
Thanks for the info.
I am a little reluctant to give out address in open forum as not sure how much LE patrols this site. Be glad to give address and directions, girl # etc. via PM. Let me know.
MD40
Visited the sauna at 999 Tanyaoqiao Road thanks to recommendations from the board.
Lots of the general details have been well reported by others so I won't repeat them here, other than to say the changing with a few (male) assistants didn't particularly bother me.
Once I got to the lineup here and the curtain slowly raised, I was blown away by the quality of the girls. Around 25 girls on offer, almost all at least 8 or better.
One shorter, young girl close to window with very straight black hair and soft features was extremely tempting, but looked slightly absent.
Instead chose. I think. 583, taller, somewhat wavy and brown hair. Larger, rounder eyes. And the winning feature: a very pleasant smile.
I had already showered on arrival so didn't partake in the in-room shower etc. In hindsight, maybe this was a mistake if it meant I missed out on soapy etc.
But straight to the room and I was extremely impressed with the appearance of my chosen girl. If I had to be picky, the only two faults I could find were somewhat yellowed teeth and unshaved pussy.
Apart from that, we had very enjoyable action in several positions including red ropes, reasonable BBBJ. Pretty good AR received although not for as long as I was expecting. This was followed by inserting a small vibrator into my ass which was an interesting experience, again didn't last all that long.
Her provided condoms split twice in trying to get them on. Fortunately I had my own with me.
She did not have much English, but we communicated ok and she had a beautiful smile. Practiced some English and Chinese on each other, and after we had finished had a peaceful lie on the bed for some time in each others arms, very GFE.
Looks: 9.5
Pussy: 7+ (really no complaints apart from unshaved)
GFE: 8
BBBJ: 7
Repeat: Absolutely (given the chance)
After reading all of the reviews on Sacrosa Sauna in Pudong, I thought I would check it out one afternoon. I won't go into details about the location or setup since many have talked about it before.
From the line up of 10 girls, I picked #560. I didn't see any of the more popular numbers in the line up, and 560 had the prettiest face. Her service was pretty good and she was in great shape. She said she had worked there for over 1 year, and you could tell by her arms. She said they were strong from all of the different services that they do that require arm strength. I certainly appreciated it when she did the BBBJ for 15+ minutes.
Looks - 8 face, thin petite body - 8 (if you like big tits, avoid 560)
Service - 8, she did everything I asked her to
Cost - 550 RMB since I went in the afternoon
The Heting Elite – 3rd Floor 777 Si Ping Rd.
Summary: The Heting Elite is operated by the owners of Sacrosa (Pudong). It is an incredible facility with very smart interior design that rivals any leading Spa in the region. The management was hand-picked from leading five-star hotels and restaurants. The vision was to raise the bar on all aspects of service quality and deliver an unmatched product. Having exceeded their expectations, Heting Elite is clearly Shanghai's luxury sauna choice.
How Discovered: After a recent visit to Sacrosa, I was given a limited edition coupon for 198 RMB discount at the Heting Elite Sauna. After some research, I couldn't find any information about Heting, so decided to use the coupon and give it a try.
Address:
The Heting Elite Sauna
3rd Floor 777 Si Ping Road
Shanghai, 200092
Phone (86-21) 651151176
E-mail [email]heting_elite@126.com[/email]
Contact: Bob Liu, Operations Manager
Mobile: 13003213675
Background: A veteran of the high-end service industry, Bob speaks fluent English having spent eight years at "M on the Bund" (7F, Building 5, The Bund). In 2008 "M" was voted Shanghai's top restaurant by Zagat. Beyond that, it is consistently voted one of the Top 20 restaurants in Asia. From his background at "M", Bob brings an understanding of the very best that the service industry has to offer. To this end, he spent nearly six months with owners and senior management defining then executing the vision for Heting Elite. His experience in the high-end service industry and close attention to detail is readily evident in the operational precision at Heting Elite. Bob is available to help plan your visit, be it individual or group. He also said that they have rooms that can accommodate two people, while others can accommodate up to eight.
Pricing: 798 RMB for 90 minutes (and absolutely worth it)
Pricing breakout as printed on inside cover of menu.
198 RMB – Sauna, Plunge Pool, Bath and Shower Area
300 RMB – Body Massage 45 minutes
300 RMB – Body Massage 45 minutes
Entrance: Ground floor entrance is well designed and sets the tone for the experience. Friendly attendants who speak some English guide you to a nearly elevator which takes you to the 3rd floor.
Reception Area: The beautifully appointed reception area rivals the reception at the Mandara Spa at Shanghai's J.W. Marriott Hotel. Spacious, with conceived lighting plan, the floor area has towering high-back club chairs reminiscent of the ones in the lobby restaurant at the Westin Hotel on the Bund. High-quality building materials are used throughout with a proper balance of textured surfaces. The reception desk is staffed by smartly-uniformed staff members that are well groomed.
Resting Area: Private, comfortable, and relaxing, the resting area has two lounge chairs per room. Lockers are controlled by magnetic key, and each locker has its own valuables safe inside where you can set the code. A flat panel TV is on the wall and a channel guide is available in the menu book, which is written in both Chinese and English. Monogrammed towels are located on the foot stools. A fruit dish is offered along with tea. Of interest: the menu book contains not only the various service pricing, and channel guide, but also a food menu. Though I didn't try the food, I should be quite suitable given Bob's time spent at "M on the Bund".
Shower Area: Absolutely beautiful, immaculate, and very clean. A large dip pool anchors the center of the room with a large flat panel TV on the wall. To the right is a dry sauna, to the left are the showers, which are private. Each shower has a rain forest shower head and hand held spray unit. Shower gel and foam are both available. Lighting is interesting, as the section of the room near the showers have medium-blue skylight panels. The towel area is well-managed with attendants assisting only as required. Following a shower and towel off, shorts and monogram robe are offered. A nearby grooming area is available for drying and combing hair. Again, all the facilities are extremely clean and of the highest quality.
Selection Area: Moving through sliding panel Chinese doors, a short walk along thickly-carpeted hallways with drop-lighting brings you to the stage. This selection are has a real one-way mirror that looked to be 15 feet wide and 10 feet high. Very interesting and cool music was playing as the front opened. The inside staging are had five ladies, but this was understandable given the fact it's only been open a month (and it was about 2:00 in the afternoon). The staging area easily has space for 25-30 ladies, and I'm confidant in the not-to-distant future it will be packed with massage talent. Outfits were black with gold piping, short in length, with a semi-open cleavage front. All ladies look quite nice. I selected 120, who was just slightly larger than the others, who were very fit and trim.
Massage Rooms: There are two styles of massage room (which I learned at the end of my visit). One is a more traditionally appointed Chinese type (which I did not see). The other is more modern, similar to a Four Seasons Hotel room, though much smaller in size, with a step-up to a queen size massage bed. Overhead recessed track lighting gives the room a certain warm glow, while large mirrors provide convenient reflection from the side walls. There are no red rope bars or soapy area in the modern room. (I do not know if red rope or soapy is available in the Chinese type massage room.) A large heavy door secures the room. Of note, there is a piece of furniture at the end of the room that contains a music player and stainless steel Ice Bucket, with ice, of course.
Service: Number 120, from Dongbei, is new to Shanghai, having been here about two weeks. Service starts off in the nude with a very professional oil massage hitting all the right pressure points. Again, the massage itself was quite good, the oil was high-quality, and it was apparent that she has been trained. At the end of the massage, she placed a phone call. Within two minutes a service attendant delivered a tray of hot towels to the room which were applied to the upper and lower back. Massage complete, it was onto round two. Session started with ice from the bucket being rubbed on her nipples, followed by a titty rub on the bottom of my feet. She proceeded to move to the top with ear work, a cat bath, including arms, fingers, and hands, all with gentle suction. Legs followed, including gentle sucking action on the back of the knees, calf muscles, and Achilles tendon area. I was asked to assume the all-four position, as AR was offered, but I declined. Roll over for front side where BBBJ was very good. Move to side of bed, raised leg position, and all the rest, while creating a very good GFE experience. Suit up with the Okamoto 0.03 Platinum (carry your own, it's worth it; "0.03" = "Ling Ling San".) All positions accepted with very nice response. Remove 0.03 Platinum for 10 minute BBBJ interlude break. Suit up with second Okamoto 0.03 and finish off. Clean up, five minute rest, then the phone gently rings at the 90 minute mark. Perfect timing.
Return to Shower and Resting Room: Because of it's efficient design, following the massage service you are guided back to the sauna shower area trough a different, yet shorter route. Sliding doors open into the shower are, this time, near the showers themselves, as opposed to the main entrance which faces the dip pool. Drop clothes, shower, dry off, re-robe, dry hair, and return to private locker room resting area. In the resting area very tasty desert was offered that was similar to semi-sweet tapioca. Locker room attendant spoke English and assisted only is requested, but was clearly available to help. As I finished changing clothes Bob returned to ask for feedback from the service offering, which I said was excellent. Bob walked me back to the reception where I paid the bill (600 RMB, as I had the 198 RMB discount coupon). Down the elevator we go and on to the street where they hailed a cab for me.
Conclusion: The Heting Elite Sauna is clearly the most well-appointed in Shanghai. Its emphasis on service quality is the best. The Heting's professional staff, drawn from five star hotels and restaurants, certainly understands service quality and delivery. Their aspiration to excellence in this market space is readily evident. Having envisioned high-end luxury spas as the foundation for its establishment, the Heting owners and management have built a high-class service offering that is unmatched in Shanghai. In fact, you could say that it's the Ferrari of Shanghai Saunas.
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Hey guys... I'm wondering if you guys have seen or know of any Saunas/Spas that appear to be legit but aren't. In other words, all the places I've gone to are either legit and cater to men and women for facials, spas, footies, etc... or are just the typical guy saunas where everyone knows what's up.
I'm wondering if there's a spa type of atmosphere I can take a traveling companion that would separate men and women, women get a legit spa treatment, etc.. while the guys do what the guys do best without any inkling of impropriety?
Not sure if the places you guys discussed in this thread qualify,so I thought I'd put it out there as I've read around and can't seem to get any straight answers on this topic on this board (spent the last hour searching).
Any ideas or suggestions would be great.. be nice to get an afternoon and some action, but I understand if I have to find alternative ways of getting it in ... :)
thanks
-J
As I live in Shanghai since half a year and never experienced the often mentioned 999 sauna I had to try this one last week.
Summarizing I must say I was quite disappointed. Sure, the premises are perfect and the choice of girls is huge (around 20 girls at 8pm), but in my case the service was quite poor inrelation the costs of 780 RMB.
Choosing the "right" girl already was difficult. As I had problems to decide the girls started to get bored by my attempts to identify "my" lady by contacting their eyes. Finally I chose no. 860, mainly because she was the only one smiling to me. Later I remembered that someone mentioned here that for the soapy the size of the boobs play an important role - too late.
860 is quite attractive, nice body beside the smaller boobs, but what she did was all very mechanical and there was no enthusiasm at all.
Soapy was ok (especially the view when I was on my back and she rubbed me moving her body on my belly opening and closing her legs...)
After washing, soapy and the catwash thing (nice to know but no need to repeat) she gave me some bj, but as everything was so much programm-controlled I did not feel something special. I knew that she would bring the things to a quick end - and that was what happened: once I penetrated her (sure - as nearly all of them - she was quite tight) I finished within seconds. She did not do any attempt to extend the "process" in order to let me really enjoy.
Sometimes I think, the "good" girls (in our sense..) should forward the details of their "concept" to the others - I am sure if no. 860 does not even know what is possible. Maybe she wonders why she does only have a little number of regulars.
Reading my report you will not be surprised that the pure action did not take more than 30 min (incl. soapy etc.) - the rest of the time was used for cleaning our bodies - before and after.
When leaving I tried to explain the chinese manager my problem but I think I did not manage to do so. One ultimate reason to learn this funny language.
But I'll give this place another chance as it is just 300m from my office!
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Been away a while, but back in town
Was visiting the Fen Shine market (or whatever they call it now) on Nanjing Lu. Remembered a while back I heard there was a spa there, so nosed around.
As you face the front of the building from outside in the street, go down the side of it on your left. There's an entrance halfway along on the right. Large sign for the Rainbow Room. No idea what that is. In the entrance, turn left, into lift and the Spa is on the 6th Floor. Fengdingyuan club.
I was there about 2pm. quoted 680 RMB for the massage/service/whatever you want to call it. Ok, I said
Shoes off, flip flops on. Straight into little waiting room with a coke, a locker, a robe to put on and some shit chinese TV show on to watch. five mins later a lineup of girls came through. They open at 1pm it seems, so only 3 available to choose from. Chose 739, or 379, something like that, tall, slim, looked fun. Wondering at this point where the shower was as I had the robe on and hadn't been near water.
She led me to the room. Bed, metal frame on ceiling for rope trick I guess, TV on wall, and one third of the room was a large wet shower area.
She asked me something about clothes. I dunno, I don't speak anything local except Ni Hao. I nodded. She left. Came back five mins later in a tiny tartan skirt, black fishnets and a blouse. And heels. Guess I answered the question correctly. On with the TV to find it was Japanese Porn. She sat on my lap and teased a little then off with clothes and into shower where she washed me very thoroughly and gave a lovely luxurious soapy handjob while I sat on a weird seat that was split into two parts. Dried off, onto bed for a nice BBBJ. Not the best technique but enthusiastic and very enjoyable. Her clit was responsive and she was either enjoying the fingering or acted it well enough to convince me with her spasms at one point. A bit of panting and resting then she got the raincoat out for me and we did the deed. Tight as can be, and she politely asked to stop after a while, it was only going halfway in and she looked in pain. Swivelled around on her back so her head was under my cock n balls as I knelt, with her legs stretching away from me. Slipped the old fella's head in her mouth and motioned for me to stroke, so I did. She tongued expertly as I unloaded into and around her mouth.
Very enjoyable. Very surprised at the ending too.
Playful girl, nice place, I will go back. I have to say of the three in the lineup, they were all facially ok, but I have seen much better in Yu Ping (if its still open) and Sacrosanct, but the actual experience is one of the best I've had in Shanghai (or Beijing for that matter).
Hours are 1300 - 0200
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The attachments of the Heting Elite include a business card, outside street shot, photo of the resting room, and shot of their menu & logo. Camera phone quality.
Note: The Heting Elite is at 777 Si Ping Road which is in the Honghou District of Shanghai.
Heya all,
Have not been able to access the server from China for some reason and trust me I have tried many places.
Anyhow need to hunt me down there is a post in the classifieds.
After reading all the venues, I still like to go back to 500 Wuzhong road xiang mi hu hotel.
New girls and fill list of treatments. Only catch you shower alone. They have a wide selection of uniforms now and some really fun girls.
Was there and had little guang dong sorry don't remember her number and also tried a couple of others that were good. Total damage 580 RMB day or night.
Also at the bars on tong ren starting to see some thai women which is a nice change. One girl if you go to Manhatan bar was a thai massage girl for 5 years and is very good. Damage is about 1000 or so for short time but well worth it compared to the girls from the PI. After the Shangrila is built across the street tong ren road will be packed with working girls.
Take care all and anyone want to hang out for a couple of drinks or go to strip KTV let me know and we'll set up something. Back in Canada now for a week. Back the 9th. Need to find me check my post in the classifieds.
Cheers all
Dragon
[QUOTE=Dragon D]Also at the bars on tong ren starting to see some thai women which is a nice change. One girl if you go to Manhatan bar was a thai massage girl for 5 years and is very good. Damage is about 1000 or so for short time but well worth it compared to the girls from the PI.[/QUOTE]
I might have met her. First Thai girl I met in Manhattan. Big natural tits and so-so face. She gave me a nice backrub there in the bar in exchange for a drink and knew what she was doing. She wanted 800 for LT including massage. I responded that I only wanted a massage and would be willing to part with 500 RMB to get two hours (which I thought was more than generous!) I even told her that if I ended up fucking her, that I'd give her the full 800 but I warned her that it wasn't likely given how exhausted I've been from this fucking financial crisis. She wouldn't budge, so I wasn't able to evaluate her full body technique.
[QUOTE]
After the Shangrila is built across the street tong ren road will be packed with working girls.[/QUOTE]
You think so? I'm guessing the opposite -- that they'll shut it down. But given how BATS in Shangri La Pudong is packed with WGs, you have a defensible position.
[QUOTE=Dragon D]Heya all,
Have not been able to access the server from China for some reason and trust me I have tried many places.
Anyhow need to hunt me down there is a post in the classifieds.
After reading all the venues, I still like to go back to 500 Wuzhong road xiang mi hu hotel.
New girls and fill list of treatments. Only catch you shower alone. They have a wide selection of uniforms now and some really fun girls.
Was there and had little guang dong sorry don't remember her number and also tried a couple of others that were good. Total damage 580 RMB day or night.
Also at the bars on tong ren starting to see some thai women which is a nice change. One girl if you go to Manhatan bar was a thai massage girl for 5 years and is very good. Damage is about 1000 or so for short time but well worth it compared to the girls from the PI. After the Shangrila is built across the street tong ren road will be packed with working girls.
Take care all and anyone want to hang out for a couple of drinks or go to strip KTV let me know and we'll set up something. Back in Canada now for a week. Back the 9th. Need to find me check my post in the classifieds.
Cheers all
Dragon[/QUOTE]Dear All,
Indeed the Chinese authorities (or whoever) is blocking this website, just they are blocking other websites. I'm writing these lines while still connecting from within China by using a VPN connection to another country. So far, this is the only way I know that can bypass the blocked sites.
There are a few such services all over the world. I'm paying $5 per month for this service at: [url]http://www.swissvpn.net/[/url]
Enjoy.
Sad to report that the Kangding Lu/Xikang Lu village cluster is now shuttered. No one knew in the surrounding shops knew where it had moved to. The Xiaomuqiao village is still going strong. Anyone know where Kangding Lu village might now be found? That or any other BBS villages in SH to check out (aside from the one in Hongqiao)?
Try [url]www.proxin.cn[/url]
[QUOTE=Un Le70]Dear All,
Indeed the Chinese authorities (or whoever) is blocking this website, just they are blocking other websites. I'm writing these lines while still connecting from within China by using a VPN connection to another country. So far, this is the only way I know that can bypass the blocked sites.
There are a few such services all over the world. I'm paying $5 per month for this service at: [url]http://www.swissvpn.net/[/url]
Enjoy.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Gislaved]Try [url]www.proxin.cn[/url][/QUOTE]I just tried the Chines Proxy, but my anti-virus-software warned me of an attack.
No one took up my challenge, so I had to do the legwork myself. I found a small cache of BBS type places on Zhaohua Lu. Think intersection of Yanan Xilu and Dingxi Lu area. Most were HJ type, one place was offering FS for RMB300, but they take you to an apartment nearby so declined. I did discover at the corner of Dingxi Lu and Wuyi Lu a temple of flesh called Dream in Shanghai. It's completely unclear to me what kind of place this is (doesn't say sauna and doesn't say KTV) other than it is quite large and has stacks of good-looking girls inside, model types. Find this intersection and you'll find Dream in Shanghai. Unfortunately, it was late and I didn't have enough dough on me to make a go of it. The place is impressive and a little intimidating. Anyway, if someone is up for a new challenge and has some coin, this is a good mark.
You just come out of the blue to make this statement ...
Do you get any commission ?
[QUOTE=Un Le70]Dear All,
Indeed the Chinese authorities (or whoever) is blocking this website, just they are blocking other websites. I'm writing these lines while still connecting from within China by using a VPN connection to another country. So far, this is the only way I know that can bypass the blocked sites.
There are a few such services all over the world. I'm paying $5 per month for this service at: [url]http://www.swissvpn.net/[/url]
Enjoy.[/QUOTE]
Hi, I have been reading the forums for a long time but never posted. But here is my little contribution from my 1st experience in a sauna. Hope it can be useful for newcomers, even if there are a lot of reports already.
I've been in China since 3 months, and I sticked to BBS so far. That's great, but I got a little tired of the quick and cheap standard you find there, then I decided to try something else. Let's just say that I don't regret my choice.
From what I read here, the sweet sauna spots seem to be Shanghai Hotel, Sacrosa and the 999. The last one is just a short walk from my appartment, so I went there.
I need to mention that I don't speak any mandarin, just a few basic words, but nothing to make conversation. That's the case for many of us I think.
So I went to 999 this Sunday afternoon around 2 PM. I received a warm welcome in english at the reception, and someone leads me to the locker room at the back. They gave me the usual numbered wristband, I took my clothes off and went for a quick shower.
Then, someone showed me the way to the 2nd floor and to a small "waiting room" where I sat for about 5 minutes. Some other men were there, also waiting their turns. All locals. An employee asks me if I wanted something, but he was not speaking english and I didn't really get it. Finally he came back with a beer, which was OK, but not necessary. They didn't charge for it anyway.
They I proceeded to the fishbowl, and I realized how this place was great. There was about 20 girls in there, all A+ IMO. I can say the glass is 2 way because some of them were looking at me straight in the eyes. I finally picked number 886 (maybe 896, but I'm pretty sure it was 886). The choice was hard, because many were stunning beauties. But this one caught my attention. It took me a few minutes to make a final decision, while some locals were also juggling with the hard choice at the same time.
We moved to another waiting room for about 5 minutes, kissing and watching some tv.
Then we moved to the private room. We took our clothes off, she washed me and we went for the soapy massage. Some people want it short, but I think that's a good tease being rubbed like this. I liked it. Since I'm not speaking Chinese, and she was not speaking english, we couldn't talk much unfortunately. But we still had a few good laughs, and eye communication.
Then we moved to the bed where she started BBBJ. It was OK, not the best I ever had but OK. She saw that I looked at the ceiling so she asked if I wanted Red rope. I agreed, then she proceeded to tie the rope and got on it. The RRBBJ was an interesting experience. I will probably repeat.
After a while she went down and BBBJ again. Then I was getting ready, then she put the bag on and I went into Mish for a while. Then, finished in Doggie. She was great and couldn't hold it any longer.
After that she licked my body from head to toe, and we lied in bed for a while. Then shower and out of the room. Got back on the 1st floor, I paid 680 RMB, and byebye.
I really enjoyed my 1st sauna experience, but I probably need to know a few things for next time. Couldn't ask the girl, since communication was not an option. I had only one pop, but could have had multiples since there was time left. I don't know how much time was left, but the phone didn't ring.
In saunas like 999, is it a "standard" to pop as many times as you want until the time is over? Or one pop, you relax with the girl, she showers you again, and you're gone? Would be good to know for my next visit.
That was a great experience overall, and I will go back for sure. The facilities are great, and the choice was amazing.
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[QUOTE=Ira Johnson]Thanks to all who responded - glad we connected. Good to meet some of you brothers and share this product, as well as tips and tricks
To refresh your memory, I have located a generic Cialis substitute. I use this myself, and I am quite happy with it. Our brothers have taken it with them on excursions in and around China, Taiwan, and Thailand and even back to the West. They also seem pleased.
It is made from sildenafil citrate, the same as the prescription brand of Viagra in the USA, but it is significantly cheaper. As you may realize, authentic Cialis costs about 500 RMB for 5 pills - about 100 RMB per pill. The generic is only 30 RMB per pill, and comes in a bottle of 10 - 300 RMB.
That's twice as much 'bang' for less than half the cost.
Granted, this particular 'generic' is not FDA approved, but other expats in the area have used it quite a bit. Still, keep in mind the same precautions you would observe with any supplement.
I've noticed it can also be embarrassing to visit one of these stores as an expat - you stand out, and the ever-helpful a-yis are suggesting all manner of items. Plus, if you do not speak much Chinese you are not certain what you will get.
I've still got a limited supply. I can deliver a bottle of 10 to you at any metro stop at your convenience for only 300RMB.[/QUOTE]Just like to place a thank you note plus testimony here. I caught up with Ira downtown on a Line 1 station in Shanghai and bought some of his Generic Cialis. I wasn't able to make use of it in Shanghai, but I moved on to Tapei a few days later and wow, had a wonderful time. I was staying in the hotel next door to Caesars Sauna (see Tapei threads) but had great luck with a Craigslist outcall freelancer. With the Cialis I was able to go two rounds, and I could even feel myself hardening ready for a potential third round when kissing good bye at the door. I had another session with the freelancer 5 days later with the Cialis giving the same great result.
Will be back in China in a months time, but this time Beijing, and hope to find a girl who is not going to scam me. I have found in my recent trips to the mainland that you have to be even more careful than in the past.
Yesterday I went for the 4th time to a massage parlour in Xujiahui (Nandan East Road, from crossing with Caoxi Rd in west direction app. After 300m on the right, big sign "Oil Massage").
The fine thing there is: you get a "serious" professional massage ending up in an incredibly good handjob. Girls are all dressed in short skirts, all not bad. Some beautiful. As I repeated Nr. 25 the 3rd time now, it got really a girl friend experience. The way she caresses me, kisses my body (not far from a blow job) is very passionate, and I am each time nearly exploding.
The price for 70min is 228 RMB, I give her 20 RMB tip. Even a 1h footmassage after is included! So far this is by far the best price/performance relation I found in Shanghai. And I decided to make it the welcome present to my friends visiting my in Shanghai.
I could not agree more with Applecrate, he just wrote it down the best way possible. Thanks to your report I tried (and repeated) one of the most exquisite places I have been so far. I report my little story and leave my comments:
It was the first time I went to a Sauna in Shanghai and I decided to go because of Applecrate's report, although I had tried other saunas around the world I did not feel to try one in Shanghai since I did not have any high expectations (wrong!), at least this one. I will focus on the points Apple did not mention or try to put some addendums to Apple´s report.
--- Not girls related---
1.- The food is excellent, although the menu is not extense you can have a good meal after the session, which in my case was a good idea (and it is included in the price). You can have tea and relax while watching tv. The armchairs are impolutely clean (as the whole complex, which is another plus) Add also extremely comfortable and perfect bathrobe including towels, sandals, etc.
2.- The jacuzzi and the saunas are an amazing expirience to relax before having The Fun. Perfect heating temperature all around the complex.
3.- The service is very attemptive and they can understand English, Bob is really fluent and if you talk to him he will make sure to have another satisfied customer (from the other service do not expect much English insight, but they absolutely make sure to serve your needs, as Apple put it, they come from the high-end hospitality business and I can agree on that).
4.- The rooms are spacious, there is chill out music (if not just ask for it), and very well lighted with mirrors on the walls for more insight on what's going on ;)
--- Girls related ---
1.- In my case, the first time, 7.30pm during the week there were 10 girls or so and the second time, 8pm weekend there were around 20 (but as the manager pointed out, some came from other saunas). The first time I was with one and the second with her and another girl. Both services were completely amazing. The repeated girl was 118 and the other... a petite one (sorry I can't remember now). About the line up... he also told me that there would be more girls, and the second time there were, but I would not consider all of them "A plus", some were really hot, do not take me wrong, but there were a few which were definetely not "A plus" but since this is pretty personal I will leave it for you to see.
2.- The massage was really good, I also agree that they had been trained for it, although I would point out the lack of abundand oil, it was just an acceptable quantity but not sleppery as I like it. I would try to make myself understand to put more next time, I don´t think it will be very difficult ( though my mandarin is basic).
3.- Really complete and perfect service with BBBJ and everything Apple stated, both were PROS (as highly professionals). Really good recomendations from the manager, although I always get impulsive and pick up what I feel like, they are always appreciated and pondered.
Well, I have to rank this place high, I will post more on its development since is pretty new but I think they will keep on going without screwing it all off. There is a deep sense and focus -which is what other places should do- on customer satisfaction and cleanness,for me two major points to be considered. Another point I would stress and hopefully it will not change is the PRICE/QUALITY/SERVICE ratio, which is pretty good for me, and that is a point that concerns me a lot since I HATE not to pay for what I think stuff is worthed (not the case!)
I strongly recommend it and we should keep and eye on the introduction of new hotties to this place. To finish with the car paralelism I will say it is the Lamborghini of Shanghai (easy huh :D)
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I will go to Shanghai soon again. But unfortunately I will stay in Pudong. Does somebody know some good places to go there? Or I have to go to the center?
I was not there for 1 year. Some new good places? (in Shanghai at all)
Thx in front!
CU
I would like to publicly thanks the new members Esensual, Estefan, Shamuc and The Blob for their informative posts.
It is good to see that some newbies keep up the good work many have done before.
Welcome to Shanghai !
p.s. your reports causes some sort of nostalgia for the old times
[QUOTE=Shamuc]Yesterday I went for the 4th time to a massage parlour in Xujiahui (Nandan East Road, from crossing with Caoxi Rd in west direction app. After 300m on the right, big sign "Oil Massage").
The fine thing there is: you get a "serious" professional massage ending up in an incredibly good handjob. Girls are all dressed in short skirts, all not bad. Some beautiful. As I repeated Nr. 25 the 3rd time now, it got really a girl friend experience. The way she caresses me, kisses my body (not far from a blow job) is very passionate, and I am each time nearly exploding.
The price for 70min is 228 RMB, I give her 20 RMB tip. Even a 1h footmassage after is included! So far this is by far the best price/performance relation I found in Shanghai. And I decided to make it the welcome present to my friends visiting my in Shanghai.[/QUOTE]Went there tonight on the recommendation (much obliged) and agree with this assessment--it's super value for your kuai. The facilities aren't as good as Le Yuan, but the service is excellent. You go in and they show you to the room. The music isn't loud at all and it was really quite nice and quiet--perfect for enjoying total attention from the masseuse. There is no shower in the room, but you can rinse in the common shower. Then it's onto the fairly standard treatment. The difference is that I really got on well with the girl, her tone of voice, the way she took time to do everything. She seemed like she was really wanting me to enjoy it. I speak good Chinese so we kept up a nice conversation. She didn't abandon me in the room at any time to "heat up towels" or anything like that which has happened to me at Peacock. She was totally concentrating on making sure I had a most xcellent HE massage. I didn; t get any licks or kisses, but that probably comes with familiarity. And yes there is a free hour long foot massage thrown in afterwards. If you're not up for a big sauna, what else do you want for RMB228?
I had No. 2 as 25 was busy. She's super nice from Guangzhou. As a side note, I saw a very good looking SW lingering on the corner, not a tout in sight. As I was completely satisfied, though, I didn't inquire.
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Had 555, Ting Ting from Hubei. Nice young 22 little gorl from Hubei. Nice thin figure, A rack, sweet kitty.
I will repeat, PC out
[QUOTE=Christian666]I will go to Shanghai soon again. But unfortunately I will stay in Pudong. Does somebody know some good places to go there? Or I have to go to the center?
I was not there for 1 year. Some new good places? (in Shanghai at all)
Thx in front!
CU[/QUOTE]
there is a good degree of opportunities in Pudong
You will not leave thirsty.
All you have to do is RTFF and do a search on Pudong
Estefan, don't worry, we'll visit your place. BTW, where is it?
[QUOTE=Estefan]I could not agree more with Applecrate, he just wrote it down the best way possible. Thanks to your report I tried (and repeated) one of the most exquisite places I have been so far. I report my little story and leave my comments:
It was the first time I went to a Sauna in Shanghai and I decided to go because of Applecrate's report, although I had tried other saunas around the world I did not feel to try one in Shanghai since I did not have any high expectations (wrong!), at least this one. I will focus on the points Apple did not mention or try to put some addendums to Apple´s report.
--- Not girls related---
1.- The food is excellent, although the menu is not extense you can have a good meal after the session, which in my case was a good idea (and it is included in the price). You can have tea and relax while watching tv. The armchairs are impolutely clean (as the whole complex, which is another plus) Add also extremely comfortable and perfect bathrobe including towels, sandals, etc.
2.- The jacuzzi and the saunas are an amazing expirience to relax before having The Fun. Perfect heating temperature all around the complex.
3.- The service is very attemptive and they can understand English, Bob is really fluent and if you talk to him he will make sure to have another satisfied customer (from the other service do not expect much English insight, but they absolutely make sure to serve your needs, as Apple put it, they come from the high-end hospitality business and I can agree on that).
4.- The rooms are spacious, there is chill out music (if not just ask for it), and very well lighted with mirrors on the walls for more insight on what's going on ;)
--- Girls related ---
1.- In my case, the first time, 7.30pm during the week there were 10 girls or so and the second time, 8pm weekend there were around 20 (but as the manager pointed out, some came from other saunas). The first time I was with one and the second with her and another girl. Both services were completely amazing. The repeated girl was 118 and the other... a petite one (sorry I can't remember now). About the line up... he also told me that there would be more girls, and the second time there were, but I would not consider all of them "A plus", some were really hot, do not take me wrong, but there were a few which were definetely not "A plus" but since this is pretty personal I will leave it for you to see.
2.- The massage was really good, I also agree that they had been trained for it, although I would point out the lack of abundand oil, it was just an acceptable quantity but not sleppery as I like it. I would try to make myself understand to put more next time, I don´t think it will be very difficult ( though my mandarin is basic).
3.- Really complete and perfect service with BBBJ and everything Apple stated, both were PROS (as highly professionals). Really good recomendations from the manager, although I always get impulsive and pick up what I feel like, they are always appreciated and pondered.
Well, I have to rank this place high, I will post more on its development since is pretty new but I think they will keep on going without screwing it all off. There is a deep sense and focus -which is what other places should do- on customer satisfaction and cleanness,for me two major points to be considered. Another point I would stress and hopefully it will not change is the PRICE/QUALITY/SERVICE ratio, which is pretty good for me, and that is a point that concerns me a lot since I HATE not to pay for what I think stuff is worthed (not the case!)
I strongly recommend it and we should keep and eye on the introduction of new hotties to this place. To finish with the car paralelism I will say it is the Lamborghini of Shanghai (easy huh :D)
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Estefan & Applecrate
Do you know if they allow multiple pops?
How do get the discount coupons (mentioned by Applecrate)?
I hope to get a few bec I am coming with a few friends.
[QUOTE=Lex Moon]Estefan & Applecrate
Do you know if they allow multiple pops?
How do get the discount coupons (mentioned by Applecrate)?
I hope to get a few bec I am coming with a few friends.[/QUOTE]
Lex,
Most all Shanghai Saunas allow, time willing, MSOGs. It up to you if you are able. The good girls are more than willing especially if you click wuth them.
PC out
[QUOTE=Monomi]Went there tonight on the recommendation (much obliged) and agree with this assessment--it's super value for your kuai. The facilities aren't as good as Le Yuan, but the service is excellent. You go in and they show you to the room. The music isn't loud at all and it was really quite nice and quiet--perfect for enjoying total attention from the masseuse. There is no shower in the room, but you can rinse in the common shower. Then it's onto the fairly standard treatment. The difference is that I really got on well with the girl, her tone of voice, the way she took time to do everything. She seemed like she was really wanting me to enjoy it. I speak good Chinese so we kept up a nice conversation. She didn't abandon me in the room at any time to "heat up towels" or anything like that which has happened to me at Peacock. She was totally concentrating on making sure I had a most xcellent HE massage. I didn; t get any licks or kisses, but that probably comes with familiarity. And yes there is a free hour long foot massage thrown in afterwards. If you're not up for a big sauna, what else do you want for RMB228?
I had No. 2 as 25 was busy. She's super nice from Guangzhou. As a side note, I saw a very good looking SW lingering on the corner, not a tout in sight. As I was completely satisfied, though, I didn't inquire.[/QUOTE]I also have been having problems at Peacock lately where as a couple months back I was very satisfied with the level of service provided. The first time I went I got a 90 minute massage HE that was excellent including a lot of touching etc, and the girl didn't even ask for a tip but I did give her 100rmb. Slowly over time and some more visits it seemed that the whole session went quicker and quicker and the latest session last week lasted only about 35 minutes?!? Also, it seems that all the girls working there have got it in their head that if it's a foreign customer they can squeeze them for at least 200rmb and kept at getting the 200rmb for a good 10 minutes until they finally gave in to just receiving 100rmb. I can't understand why some people are giving 200rmb tip for a massage that only costs 200rmb? I think it's about time I start looking for a new R & T and this sounds like a good start, thanks.
[QUOTE=Un Le70]Dear All,
Indeed the Chinese authorities (or whoever) is blocking this website, just they are blocking other websites. I'm writing these lines while still connecting from within China by using a VPN connection to another country. So far, this is the only way I know that can bypass the blocked sites.
There are a few such services all over the world. I'm paying $5 per month for this service at: [url]http://www.swissvpn.net/[/url]
Enjoy.[/QUOTE]Why pay even $5 a month when there are plenty of free proxies around?
If anyone is still having trouble pm and I can point you in the right direction.
I do not know the real name of this place. But have been there several times. And it has been reported on.
Entrance is 15meters to the right of Starbucks and Wagas at Maxdo Shopping Mall, Hongqiao. If you google "Wagas Maxdo", you'll get a Chinese address to Wagas facing Wagas from the street, this place is to your right, after crossing the underground parking entrance.
You enter, go down a couple of flights of stairs, follow the signs to the "Sanna" Club and there you are.
The last two sessions were very good. With the girls making sure I was satisfied. And this one was no exception. There were only 7 girls to choose from, and I did not recognize any from previous visits. Picked a girl with a simple face, and great looking body, (although I was hoping it was not the bra making her look good.) and it was not. Immediately in the room, she begins to play through my pajamas, and has them off in not time. We fooled around a little, then into the shower. And onto the soapy matress.
Great BJ and I came (which is not normal to cum so fast, but she was that good.). Afterward, she held up 2 fingers, asking me if I want to cum 2 times? And I said yes. After rinsing off, back into the bed, and had a nice session. And so did she. After relaxing, she held up 3 fingers! And I said, ok, but not sure. Again, some light action, and she got down for another BJ, and was successful. Whew! She then held up 4 fingers! And I shook my head no. She just laughed. A fairly good massage at that point, and showered off.
Price is a little high compared to other places. 780 (includes a beer or whatever you want to drink), but the place is nice, clean, and I always have had excellent service.
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[QUOTE=No Will]My apologies to the experts (Rick and World Guy Sh).
I found the english version of the Lacosa website (lacasahotel.com.cn/en). While I was unable to make an "on line" reservation, I emailed the sales contact and will give this a try.
I will report back, for those with language disabilities like me.[/QUOTE]Back from my China sojourn with a few posts to report.
Stayed at the La Cosa and all way easy for a non-Chinese speaker.
The rooms and service was as advertised 488 rmb w/ breakfast. Ordered the in room massage and got a young girl to give a pretty good massage followed by FS. Upsell from 388 to 700 was typical, but not too annoying. Her massage was good, but the sex was better.
Hotel is not frequented by working girls, but saw a few professionals coming in and out. I guess they were phone-ins.
2 minute walk from about 5 BBS and a 5 minute walk and across the highway from the Marriot.
Which branch are you referring to? I frequent the Tietu Lu branch and I haven't had such problems there. No one ever asked me for a tip there, though I give a hundred, if the service is really good
[QUOTE=Stud Man]I also have been having problems at Peacock lately where as a couple months back I was very satisfied with the level of service provided. The first time I went I got a 90 minute massage HE that was excellent including a lot of touching etc, and the girl didn't even ask for a tip but I did give her 100rmb. Slowly over time and some more visits it seemed that the whole session went quicker and quicker and the latest session last week lasted only about 35 minutes?!? Also, it seems that all the girls working there have got it in their head that if it's a foreign customer they can squeeze them for at least 200rmb and kept at getting the 200rmb for a good 10 minutes until they finally gave in to just receiving 100rmb. I can't understand why some people are giving 200rmb tip for a massage that only costs 200rmb? I think it's about time I start looking for a new R & T and this sounds like a good start, thanks.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Beijing Fox]Which branch are you referring to? I frequent the Tietu Lu branch and I haven't had such problems there. No one ever asked me for a tip there, though I give a hundred, if the service is really good[/QUOTE]It was the xietu lu branch, I didn't know there was another location. What is the cross road to Tietu Lu maybe I should start going there instead.
[QUOTE=Beijing Fox]Which branch are you referring to? I frequent the Tietu Lu branch and I haven't had such problems there. No one ever asked me for a tip there, though I give a hundred, if the service is really good[/QUOTE]Sorry I'm pretty sure you were referring to the same location as I was. I'm not sure why it is but I'm guessing when a person can't speak Chinese they see $$$ or I've just been unlucky in my selection. I'm not giving up on it since I have had good service there in the past but it would be nice if some Chinese speaking members would mention something to the staff to crack down a bit on the girls trying to get 100% tip on the massage session.
[QUOTE=Stud Man]I also have been having problems at Peacock lately where as a couple months back I was very satisfied with the level of service provided. The first time I went I got a 90 minute massage HE that was excellent including a lot of touching etc, and the girl didn't even ask for a tip but I did give her 100rmb. Slowly over time and some more visits it seemed that the whole session went quicker and quicker and the latest session last week lasted only about 35 minutes? ! ? Also, it seems that all the girls working there have got it in their head that if it's a foreign customer they can squeeze them for at least 200rmb and kept at getting the 200rmb for a good 10 minutes until they finally gave in to just receiving 100rmb. I can't understand why some people are giving 200rmb tip for a massage that only costs 200rmb? I think it's about time I start looking for a new R & T and this sounds like a good start, thanks.[/QUOTE]I don't understand why people have to give such a big tip for an already pricey massage & handjob.
If the girl is insisting on a tip, just simply point at the red sign in the room (of course in Chinese) who clearly says that "no tips are allowed".
I had one girl there who played the "tips" trick and she quickly apologized and begged me not to tell to her laoban (boss) after I showed her the red sign.
Guys don't get fooled please, the place is already dear enough at 298RMB, we don't need to pay extra 100-200 RMB to get a nice service! With that money you can afford a sauna!
A reasonable tip is 50 RMB only if you get exceptional service, or you can get the girl to take off her bra or let you touch her. Otherwise, if you have to tip, just stick to 20 RMB.
[QUOTE=Mark17]I do not know the real name of this place. But have been there several times. And it has been reported on.
Entrance is 15meters to the right of Starbucks and Wagas at Maxdo Shopping Mall, Hongqiao. If you google "Wagas Maxdo", you'll get a Chinese address to Wagas facing Wagas from the street, this place is to your right, after crossing the underground parking entrance.
You enter, go down a couple of flights of stairs, follow the signs to the "Sanna" Club and there you are.
The last two sessions were very good. With the girls making sure I was satisfied. And this one was no exception. There were only 7 girls to choose from, and I did not recognize any from previous visits. Picked a girl with a simple face, and great looking body, (although I was hoping it was not the bra making her look good.) and it was not. Immediately in the room, she begins to play through my pajamas, and has them off in not time. We fooled around a little, then into the shower. And onto the soapy matress.
Great BJ and I came (which is not normal to cum so fast, but she was that good.). Afterward, she held up 2 fingers, asking me if I want to cum 2 times? And I said yes. After rinsing off, back into the bed, and had a nice session. And so did she. After relaxing, she held up 3 fingers! And I said, ok, but not sure. Again, some light action, and she got down for another BJ, and was successful. Whew! She then held up 4 fingers! And I shook my head no. She just laughed. A fairly good massage at that point, and showered off.
Price is a little high compared to other places. 780 (includes a beer or whatever you want to drink), but the place is nice, clean, and I always have had excellent service.
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If you check my previous report, I even gave a link where you can see the girls photos. Although it might not be that updated.
[QUOTE=Beijing Fox]Which branch are you referring to? I frequent the Tietu Lu branch and I haven't had such problems there. No one ever asked me for a tip there, though I give a hundred, if the service is really good[/QUOTE]I went to the Peacock once since it had been talked about so much here and didn't like it that much. Enjoyed Le Yuan more. Peacock always tries to upsell for RMB100 tip. Girls aren't anything to write home about. Facilities are worse than Le Yuan, but better than the Nandan Dong Lu one. Nandan Donglu service was superior to either though, not to mention cheaper.
Based on below report I went to this sauna tonight (Friday) and I have to say that I disagree with Applecrate.
The Sauna is indeed very nice but definitely not so much more nice as others in SH. I had a line-up of 7 girls, all not good-looking, except for 1, which I obviously took.
She did some basic massage, was very friendly, but did not want to do FS, because of the size. In the end she did it but not with so much pleasure which did not make it nice for me either. I payed 894RMB for 60 min (not 90 as stated on the menu)
Apart from this (I could be unlucky with the girl) I think this Sauna is a no-go compared to others, too pricy for not more fun or better decoration.
Just IMHO
[QUOTE=Applecrate]Location: Immediately across the from Malone's on 255 Tongren Lu
Price: Expensive at 892 RMB for complete package
Cleanliness: Excellent, maybe the best.
Décor: Beautiful, well appointed. Feels like a true Five-Star Hotel
Sauna Area: Brand new throughout. Dry sauna is all-new with large heated rock racks. Dip pools are large and varied in temperature. Shower area is terrific. Tiled private stalls with large rain-forest shower heads. The
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[QUOTE=Lex Moon]Estefan & Applecrate
Do you know if they allow multiple pops?
How do get the discount coupons (mentioned by Applecrate)?
I hope to get a few bec I am coming with a few friends.[/QUOTE]Not sure it they allow multiple shots, but I'm inclined to think so.
Coupons are available at Sacrosa in Pudong. Owners of Sacrosa also own Heting. When your paying at the counter on your way out at Sacrosa, they will give you one; if they forget, then just ask. Coupons are for 168 RMB.
The Grlden Dream Sauna at the Baoan Hotel in Pudong is full service. (Baoan is near the Purple Mountain Hotel, and not far from the Intercontinental) It is a massive facility. You can see photos of the sauna mixed in with sports facility pictures by following this link.
[url]http://www.baoanhotel.com/english/sportscenter.htm[/url]
Pictures of the Sauna are accurate. THe rest area is huge and has lounge chairs with individual TV screens. The sauna bathing area is large enough for a pro football team.
They use a server system, but the manager doesn't want to lose face by putting a substandard lady in the massage room. Service time is 90 minutes and damage is about 780 RMB.
Number 968 is from Dongbei. She has a face that looks a little like the brunette-with-bangs in Pulp Fiction. She has the most majestic rack that I've seen in years. Spectacular. True-to-size 38Ds that have a slightly upward turn, like those old-school Playboy centerfolds. And she has plenty of ass too. Round ass at that. She is not slender, she is meaty. But this is good, as she can take the dick like a champion. Though she does CBJs, her massive rack and GFE attitude while fucking your brains out makes up for it. The set up is for the first 45 minutes to be a full-on massage, the second 45 minutes tis o grind you into the earth. By the way, she will titty fuck you with vast qualtities of oil on her hooters. What makes her interesting is that she's not a real pro. Instead, she acts and behaves like the girl next door who's having fun. To be sure, a championship rack of the highest order.
Again, Baoan is full service. And by the way, it's on 5F in the hotel. On 4F is a Night Pearl KTV. I accidently pushed 4 instead of 5 the other day. When the door opened, there was a line of KTV girls 20 yards long rarin' to go. I didn't go in to check it out though, as I was on my way back to for round two with the queen of racks.
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I'll be transiting through Shanghai back to the States from BKK. I do not know the first thing about China and I don't have time to research the board. What is recommended for an 8 hour stay that starts at 7am?
[QUOTE=Tiger43]I just tried the Chines Proxy, but my anti-virus-software warned me of an attack.[/QUOTE]I run Linux on a virtual machine to be on the safe side. I don't notice anything except a bit of commercial.
Oposite the YZ bar there is a place.
First floor is a coffee bar, second a beer bar and on the third there are rooms where I was told one can get HJ and BJ. Take out was available, for 600 RMB. Selection was not good at that time of the day, so I decided to leave.
I don't remember the street name, could have been the Huai Hai
There are actually two branches at the crossing of Tietu Lu and Damuqiao lu. I always go to the one closer to the intersection. I don't speak much of Chinese, but cannot really complain. I always let them choose a girl for me, so I have sledomly the same twice or three times. Sometimes the massage is mediocre, but I'm never pressed for a tip. Maybe, I look so stingy.
I'll try Nandan Lu this weekend and would like to try Le Yuan, too, but cannot find the address. Can anyone help please? Thank you in advance.
[QUOTE=Stud Man]It was the xietu lu branch, I didn't know there was another location. What is the cross road to Tietu Lu maybe I should start going there instead.[/QUOTE]
I haven't been to any other myself, but when you look at the backside of their card, there are 2 to 3 other locations across town.
[QUOTE=Stud Man]It was the xietu lu branch, I didn't know there was another location. What is the cross road to Tietu Lu maybe I should start going there instead.[/QUOTE]
Hi Jetsetter, thanks for asking about the girlfriendly place; I have been intending to write and have postponed too many times.
I found a place like that near Jin Sha Jiang Rd. Subway station (line 3/4). It is called Clear Water Bay. To find it walk out of Jin Sha Jiang station (all exits lead south), you will see a Toyota place on the right. Walk under the elevated tracks south toward the river. On your left is the Riverside Hotel, next is Clear Water Bay. There are only Chinese signs until you walk in. This building is 3 stories and has many windows. There is a doorman. Very nice appearance from the outside.
When you first walk in you can take an elevator on the left down to a standard sauna and bath, with many types of hot rooms and baths; or you can take the elevator on the right up to the VIP area.
I first tried this place back in the summer while here with my boss. We wanted only the sauna. It was a very hot day and we wanted to refresh between meetings.
While we were in the basement bath area we were offered to go up to the VIP massage area. My boss declined and I followed his lead.
However I returned a few month ago and went for the VIP.
I believe that it was 880 rmb, but I am not positive.
I went in, asked for the VIP and was led to the elevator on the right. I went up and had a bath and a sauna. Next I was led to another floor to wait for a bit. I think it was the 5th floor. This area was very well appointed with leather furniture and new TVs. After a moment an attendant who could manage a little English came to verify that I wanted a FS massage.
He asked " make law? ". I thought, " yes! Congress! "
I said yes and we returned to the 4th floor and a very nice room. I thought the room was nicer than the Hotel that my company had provided me.
After a short wait a young lady came to the room.
There was no line up, but I would have very likely chosen her, she was an 8 in my book. She had long hair, to her waist. She was tall and full figured.
She told me her Mongolian name was Ha Ma Ji Da. I did not get her number. She also used a Chinese name like, Chen Jin, or something.
I am not sure of how long the time spent was.
This was the first time I had a fire and ice.
After the service she asked me to sign a receipt.
When I returned to the locker and the check out on the 4th floor I saw a few other foreigners speaking English. I managed most of this with out any Chinese language skills.
The rest of the facility was very nice. I saw families there who were enjoying the restaurant.
I think you could take a friend and slip upstairs from the basement.
Price; 880 (I think- don't really remember)
Girl: looks 8
Service 8 (cbj, many positions)
Facility 9
If someone (with some Chinese language skills) tries this place out, I would be interested in knowing if there are any discounts or coupons. Also is there a fishbowl?
The address is 1495 Kai Xuan Road north, Pu Tou
Telephone 021-52688888
Www dot clubclearwaterbay dot com (I visited the site once--today it did not work for me)
I read on another thread about a member who thought that a certain place was twice as nice, therefore he would go half as often. I think this place fits that description.
I will return, when I can stay all day.
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[QUOTE=Bier 8]Based on below report I went to this sauna tonight (Friday) and I have to say that I disagree with Applecrate.
The Sauna is indeed very nice but definitely not so much more nice as others in SH. I had a line-up of 7 girls, all not good-looking, except for 1, which I obviously took.
She did some basic massage, was very friendly, but did not want to do FS, because of the size. In the end she did it but not with so much pleasure which did not make it nice for me either. I payed 894RMB for 60 min (not 90 as stated on the menu)
Apart from this (I could be unlucky with the girl) I think this Sauna is a no-go compared to others, too pricy for not more fun or better decoration.
Just IMHO[/QUOTE]Agree with your assessment. To be sure, I have visited quite a few other Saunas since I wrote my commnetary on New Happy Garden back around CHinese New Year. (Heting Elite, Baoan Hotel, and Wisdom Spring on 5F of Hi-Tech Plaza in Puxi.)
These three have as nice, if not nicer decor.
As for your service commentary, the same thing happened to me. Yes, I went back when I was in Puxi and pressed for time. Knew it was overpriced, and did it anyway. The girl was cute, but only so-so in service as the size complaint came up. Basically, it was not a good experience. TIme was also a little short.
Again, I've revised my view of this place downward, and will not be going back. Perhaps if I would have posted my "second visit" commentary, then you could have saved the bucks for a better place.
By the way, in the near future I will post a report about another Shanghai sauna (with a server system) that actually segregates the girls by those who can -- and cannot -- service foreigners based on their ability to handle the size. It's the only place I've found that does this to avoid a "sizeable" problem.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]I'll be transiting through Shanghai back to the States from BKK. I do not know the first thing about China and I don't have time to research the board. What is recommended for an 8 hour stay that starts at 7am?[/QUOTE]
With the limited amount of time you have to "research the board", I think you will find the airport quite nice. It takes a bit of time to get anywhere from PVG as it is a ways out of town. Enjoy your transit.
[QUOTE=Sky Ryder]With the limited amount of time you have to "research the board", I think you will find the airport quite nice. It takes a bit of time to get anywhere from PVG as it is a ways out of town. Enjoy your transit.[/QUOTE]Enternational,
Yes, Shanghai airport is very nice and you can spend 8hr transit here.
There are alot of things to do.
I think you should spend a few days here before you fly back to the US, but you will need a China visa in advance.
Fast eddie 48
[QUOTE=Monomi]I went to the Peacock once since it had been talked about so much here and didn't like it that much. Enjoyed Le Yuan more. Peacock always tries to upsell for RMB100 tip. Girls aren't anything to write home about. Facilities are worse than Le Yuan, but better than the Nandan Dong Lu one. Nandan Donglu service was superior to either though, not to mention cheaper.[/QUOTE]Where is the Le Yuan one located?
[QUOTE=Beijing Fox]There are actually two branches at the crossing of Tietu Lu and Damuqiao lu. I always go to the one closer to the intersection. I don't speak much of Chinese, but cannot really complain. I always let them choose a girl for me, so I have sledomly the same twice or three times. Sometimes the massage is mediocre, but I'm never pressed for a tip. Maybe, I look so stingy.
I'll try Nandan Lu this weekend and would like to try Le Yuan, too, but cannot find the address. Can anyone help please? Thank you in advance.[/QUOTE]I remember passing another massage before you get to peacock but I could never saw a sign that had the name of the place. Are you talking about the same one? It's before you pass by the BBS on the way to peacock and phoenix? If anyone can give directions to Le Yuan I would appreciate it as well.
In 8 hours I think you can do something. It is about 75 minutes from Airposrt to the nice places in center. The sauna's open only ate 2pm with nice girls showing up after 4pm, so this is not an option for you.
The only option is to take a taxi to some BBS on Xiaomuqiao Lu, just south of Xietu. If that is not your taste you can have special massage at Peacock just around the corner on Xietu Lu. You can easily find it with the Peacock sign above the door.
[QUOTE=Sky Ryder]With the limited amount of time you have to "research the board", I think you will find the airport quite nice. It takes a bit of time to get anywhere from PVG as it is a ways out of town. Enjoy your transit.[/QUOTE]
It's been almost a year since my last post just before I left Shanghai last year, so I haven't had anything new to contribute to this thread since. But next month I'm back for a short while and hope that I'll be able to update my reviews.
I'm hoping the places I had visited are still there! I know I may be able to dig it out of a years' worth of posts, but does anyone know if the prices have changed since last year? Not that I mind if they have. I just need to get back into the 'know' of what are the going rates in the sauna's these days.
Definitely I'll be heading back to B2 (#5 still there? ) and Sarcosa (think it was #595 I saw then). And hopefully the three other places I (and Bloom. You still here? ) reviewed.
I'm counting the days!
Take care,
G
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]I'll be transiting through Shanghai back to the States from BKK. I do not know the first thing about China and I don't have time to research the board. What is recommended for an 8 hour stay that starts at 7am?[/QUOTE]Of Interest:In the lobby of the Motel168 Dazhong Merryling Pudong Airport Hotel (PVG) Can't miss it. It's outside between Terminal 1 and Terminal 2. You can access it through the underground walkways.
Inside the door-- imediately to the right as you enter the lobby - is a "Massage / Spa". I went to check pricing two months ago while waiting on a flight to arrive.
To be sure, I've did not have time give it a try.
But here are a few things I remember.
- The girl at the counter spoke pretty good English and walked me through the offerings. She seemed to 'hint' that the service was quite good.
- I always look at pricing, as many places with a 600-800 RMB price tag tend to offer full service. Seems like their highest priced item was in the 800 RMB range.
- There were two girls in uniform who kept entering and exiting the desk area. Both were in the 6-7 range in looks, but I would not kick them out of bed for eating crackers.
- This is a Motel 168 after all, so it's possible full service is on the menu.
Three possibilities for this place.
1. It's an overpriced massage joint at the airport that, well, gives expensive massage.
2. It's an overpriced HJ joint located at the airport where you might be able to talk the girl into full service.
3. It's a full service joint at Motel 168 airport where you'll get slam fucked by a rough-and-tumble airport horizontal bop artist, and, well, still get hit with a 800 RMB price tag.
Who knows?
Again, I haven't had a chance to try it, so can make absolutely no promises.
But, it is an option at the airport.
If you give it a try -- and take one for the team -- good luck!
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[QUOTE=Beijing Fox]There are actually two branches at the crossing of Tietu Lu and Damuqiao lu. I always go to the one closer to the intersection. I don't speak much of Chinese, but cannot really complain. I always let them choose a girl for me, so I have sledomly the same twice or three times. Sometimes the massage is mediocre, but I'm never pressed for a tip. Maybe, I look so stingy.
I'll try Nandan Lu this weekend and would like to try Le Yuan, too, but cannot find the address. Can anyone help please? Thank you in advance.[/QUOTE]Le Yuan is a few doors down from the Peacock. In the direction away from Xiaomuqiao. Le Yuan has mirrors on the ceiling (at the rooms that I have used) which is a nice touch. No one eve tried to upsell me at Le Yuan. Still, Nandan has better service.
[QUOTE=Sky Ryder]With the limited amount of time you have to "research the board", I think you will find the airport quite nice. It takes a bit of time to get anywhere from PVG as it is a ways out of town. Enjoy your transit.[/QUOTE]
still you should RTFF or at least search on Pudong
Take the MagLev and in 10 minutes you are in Pudong, not exactly in the centre of the mongering but from the station a short cab ride will take you to some establishments in that side of the town (Wolrd Plaza, Sacrosa, etc etc).
RTFF is alwasy the quickest option, at the end.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]I'll be transiting through Shanghai back to the States from BKK. I do not know the first thing about China and I don't have time to research the board. What is recommended for an 8 hour stay that starts at 7am? [/QUOTE]Dude,
Not looking good for you. While I've done what you are suggesting on a 5 hour layover in BKK, I don't think it can be done at PVG.
Figure you have at least 30 minutes to get through immigration/customs providing your plane even lands on time. Then probably the fastest thing you can do is jump on the Maglev to Longyan station (another 15.45 minutes depending on your timing. Train leaves every 30 minutes from PVG). By the time you get to Longyan, it may be 8AM at the very earliest; probably closer to 9.
Then from Longyan you can get a taxi to a spa in Pudong (another 30 minutes depending on traffic). Only problem is that it will have to be a 24 hour place.
Remember, it is 9AM! Most spas don't open 'til 1PM. BBS's are usually later than that. Then once you find a place to do the deed, you have to turn around and make the trip back to PVG. Remember, there is no easy way through immigration on the way out. I have spent more than 1 hour waiting in line in the past. Especially for a flight that leaves around 3PM.
If you can find a 24 hour spa you have time. But barring that, your options are limited. I recommend you double dose the vitamin V before leaving LOS. Then spend the 48 hours prior to leaving BKK f*cking your brains out before you leave. -
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The Wu-Jong road # 418 did not disappoint.
While the damage is steep, but the girls were attractive.
I chose #20 from An Hui. She is about 4 foot 10 with natural B cup.
So at this place, you do not take shower before hand.
Basically the girl washes you first.
Then perform the soapy massage (search you tube) with nice BBBJ. It was nice to say at least.
After the soapy full body massage, then another bath.
Started with fire and ice treatment. Then licking on the entire body. Followed by a deep and long rimming (you would be amazed how far the tongue can go up in the rear). Then followed by covered toe fuck (this is interesting to have the girl fuck herself on your toe.).
BBBJ follower by cover FS. You can choose either cum during FS or have BBJCIM.
This place is by far better then typical red rope service in Shanghai.
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After reading 2 reviews on this Sauna, I had to go as well..
I can just say I agree with the 2 reviews, it was a great experience and you can simple call it the best sauna I have seen so far.
Location
3rd Floor 777 Si Ping Road
When you walk from the south to north on Si Ping lu you see a sign 777 at a restaurant, I made the mistake to go in there, you just have to walk a bit further to the corner of the building and you see the wall with black glass, thats it.
Inside: Bob is very friendly, fluent in English and shows you the way.
I was there today at around 6PM and had a choice of about 8 ladies, most of them good looking. I chose 112, very prety petite girl.
She did the basic stuff as described by Apple before, was very good service, but not completely GFE. Her body was just stunning so I was happy anyway.
At the end we had 15 min left and we had to wait, I wanted a 2nd pop but she did not let me unfortunately. That was the only bummer.
Overall: I will come back and advise the others as well, this is something you have to experience for 700 RMB.
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I'm just on location at NanDan during the foot massage. Thank you for the reccommendation. The service is great and the performance/cost better than Peacock. They'll see me here again.
I think I know Le Yuan. I was there a couple of times last year, but couldn't find any benefits over Peacock at that time. (I even thought they are under the same management) have to try again.
Have you ever been to the brightly lit upscale BBS 20m towards the intersection from Peacock?
Again, thank you for informing me of the Nandan place.
[QUOTE=Monomi]Le Yuan is a few doors down from the Peacock. In the direction away from Xiaomuqiao. Le Yuan has mirrors on the ceiling (at the rooms that I have used) which is a nice touch. No one eve tried to upsell me at Le Yuan. Still, Nandan has better service.[/QUOTE]
I am planning to go here, but I cannot fully understand your direction stated below. If you go WEST on crossing with Caoxi Rd you end up on Nandan Lu and not Nandan East Lu.
Can you help me out? Thanks in advance
[QUOTE=Shamuc]Yesterday I went for the 4th time to a massage parlour in Xujiahui (Nandan East Road, from crossing with Caoxi Rd in west direction app. After 300m on the right, big sign "Oil Massage").
Hi Fastm5,
Is the soapy you posted about on Wudong Lu near Wenshui Dong Lu subway?
I can't find 418 Wu Jong Lu on google or other maps.
Thanks
Hi Bier,
I was there yesterday.
The exact address is:
Garden House
191 Nandan Rd.
02134240103
They also have a web site:
Gardenhouse dot com dot cn
Open apparently from 1100 to 0400
Worth a visit
[QUOTE=Bier 8]I am planning to go here, but I cannot fully understand your direction stated below. If you go WEST on crossing with Caoxi Rd you end up on Nandan Lu and not Nandan East Lu.
Can you help me out? Thanks in advance
[QUOTE=Shamuc]Yesterday I went for the 4th time to a massage parlour in Xujiahui (Nandan East Road, from crossing with Caoxi Rd in west direction app. After 300m on the right, big sign "Oil Massage").[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Gary C]Hi Fastm5,
Is the soapy you posted about on Wudong Lu near Wenshui Dong Lu subway?
I can't find 418 Wu Jong Lu on google or other maps.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Gary,
Try spelling it Wu Zhong Lu; almost the same pronunciation!
[QUOTE=Joinem]Gary,
Try spelling it Wu Zhong Lu; almost the same pronunciation![/QUOTE]吳中路 418 (吉原會所)
damage is $788 RMB
Hint for the ones interested
My beauty ex #511 from sacrosa (read old reports) now works in a new place:
#230, GuangLing Number 4 road
398rmb for 1h30 of pure pleasure. I only my babe who is now #65 in this place... but I so many other cute babes...
best place as far as money for quality
If you go, please post and tell me what you think!!
Tell my babe that it is her "boyfriend" who gave the address
The SH procedure has been described many times, so I will skip that. The selection this day was some 10 girls. It is hard to make a decision when you look into that room.
I had a very nice session with no52, She does not speak much English. We managed to communicate very well.
The session was more a GFE experience with two pops in one hour. It seems like the 650 RMBs are only for one hour, but that was enough for me.
At the end of the second pop she made thumbs up and looked very satisfied, When we got dressed she made sure that I remembered her number.
I can recommend her.
[QUOTE=Gislaved]The SH procedure has been described many times, so I will skip that. The selection this day was some 10 girls. It is hard to make a decision when you look into that room.
I had a very nice session with no52, She does not speak much English. We managed to communicate very well.
The session was more a GFE experience with two pops in one hour. It seems like the 650 RMBs are only for one hour, but that was enough for me.
At the end of the second pop she made thumbs up and looked very satisfied, When we got dressed she made sure that I remembered her number.
I can recommend her.[/QUOTE]Hi,
What's the address of the place? And what is the Sh procedure? Wasn't able to find it out.
Having returned to the USA after several years in Asia, I now know what I miss the most! Actually a couple of things. One, a WONDERFUL back walking massage (with or without extras! ) and tight, sweet, beautiful 'tang! Man oh man, do I envy you guys getting to try new stuff like my never met Buddy Sixty Cent! #511 IS great so I highly recommend his post. I miss DanDan at World Plaza, I miss the old Song Lin from there as well, and I miss #503 at Sacrosa. The babe that let me fulfull my starfish fantasy, and many others.
Guys, enjoy it while you can 'cause the pickings are slim to none in the 48 and expensive as heck! Last week, I had a pretty good lapdance (one frickin' song) for a little less than an over the top hour (90 minutes) with Dan Dan cost me!
Just keep posting so this envious has-been can enjoy from afar!
Guybert56
[QUOTE=Baudelairemod]Hi,
What's the address of the place? And what is the Sh procedure? Wasn't able to find it out.[/QUOTE]Address: 505 Wulumuqi Road (N), Shanghai, China
[QUOTE=Guybert56]Having returned to the USA after several years in Asia, I now know what I miss the most! Actually a couple of things. One, a WONDERFUL back walking massage (with or without extras! ) and tight, sweet, beautiful 'tang! Man oh man, do I envy you guys getting to try new stuff like my never met Buddy Sixty Cent! #511 IS great so I highly recommend his post. I miss DanDan at World Plaza, I miss the old Song Lin from there as well, and I miss #503 at Sacrosa. The babe that let me fulfull my starfish fantasy, and many others.
Guys, enjoy it while you can 'cause the pickings are slim to none in the 48 and expensive as heck! Last week, I had a pretty good lapdance (one frickin' song) for a little less than an over the top hour (90 minutes) with Dan Dan cost me!
Just keep posting so this envious has-been can enjoy from afar!
Guybert56[/QUOTE]Thanks buddy!
DanDan is doing great, she left world plaza but do some extra home for the firends.
503: I have not seen her for a while. As my favourite their is now 590. Big boobs and nothing she refuses.
Song Lin: Well, she is still very sweet and best love maker in town!
So much choice in shanghai, this is paradize.
[QUOTE=Baudelairemod]Hi,
What's the address of the place? And what is the Sh procedure? [/QUOTE]
Surely SH = Shanghai Hotel?
Pedro 917
Do you guys also realize that all 'special massages' are rated with an 8 at the end? Peacock, chikang lu, nandan lu, are like 298, 338, 228 RMB.
My conspiracy theory that you can recognize these massages based on the 8.
Or am I dreaming.
Hi,
I've been looking through this forum for a nice bbs in Shanghai, and somewhat all the massive information just overwhelm me to a point of confussion. I'll be staying in Holiday Inn Downtown near the railstation next week, this is my 2nd stay in shanghai. First one was two years ago at the same hotel, only managed to get service through the room massage which was not very entertaining and cost me 1,000 (yikes!)
This time I'd like to wonder around, and managed to sort out few places based on reports from few brothers here:
1. Shanghai Hotel
2. World Plaza B2
3. 999
4. Sacrosa
Am I missing something from the list or is there any other place recommended? I'm looking for a relaxing place with nice facilities/girls and since I can't speak or read any Chinese, language would be a problem. What's the standard procedure in getting into this place and damage cost? I just don't want to get rip off by agreeing into something that I don't understand.
Thanks a bunch in advance
8 in Chinese has the connotation of 'lucky' or maybe 'happy'. Maybe it is clever branding? Or just the old 0.99 trick?
[QUOTE=Bier 8]Do you guys also realize that all 'special massages' are rated with an 8 at the end? Peacock, chikang lu, nandan lu, are like 298, 338, 228 RMB.
My conspiracy theory that you can recognize these massages based on the 8.
Or am I dreaming.[/QUOTE]
[quote=bier 8]do you guys also realize that all 'special massages' are rated with an 8 at the end? peacock, chikang lu, nandan lu, are like 298, 338, 228 rmb.
my conspiracy theory that you can recognize these massages based on the 8.
or am i dreaming.[/quote]bier 8,
no conspiracy here. i guess you are a newbie in china or chinese culture. "8" is synonmous with luck and prosperity.
most prices of goods/merchandise end with that number too.
go back to sleep. dream about walking into the new mayflower ktv being surrounded by 1,000 wg and having them ready to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] you till there no tomorrow.
[QUOTE=Beijing Fox]Hi Bier,
I was there yesterday.
The exact address is:
Garden House
191 Nandan Rd.
02134240103
They also have a web site:
Gardenhouse dot com dot cn
Open apparently from 1100 to 0400
Worth a visit
[QUOTE=Bier 8]I am planning to go here, but I cannot fully understand your direction stated below. If you go WEST on crossing with Caoxi Rd you end up on Nandan Lu and not Nandan East Lu.
Can you help me out? Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]Hi Bejing Fox,
Is there a menu at this place with the services, like at Peacock?
At Peacock it's easy because you usually point at the price in the small menu list.
I read before that here it's somewhere around 220 RMB.
How would you compare the facilieties with Peacock?
I like the shower in the room there but the facilities aren't exactly luxurious if you know what I mean.
Cheers
thanks guys, i knew i was dreaming.
now you ring up the topic, i have been to sauna & bbs in shanghai but never to ktv. there is also not much on that in the forum.
couple of questions:
- is it nice and common to go alone?
- if you go, how does it work? you start the session by selecting girls and you pay by visiting girl for singing?
- and after a while you can have fs in same room for additional pay? and if yes, what is the approx cost?
thanks for the info, it would be good to have some info about ktv on this forum anyway since you are talking about '1000' wg in mayflower which sounds tempting...
[quote=bnlee2]bier 8,
no conspiracy here. i guess you are a newbie in china or chinese culture. "8" is synonmous with luck and prosperity.
most prices of goods/merchandise end with that number too.
go back to sleep. dream about walking into the new mayflower ktv being surrounded by 1,000 wg and having them ready to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] you till there no tomorrow.[/quote]
Nothelly,
You picked the right 4 places, another one would be the Heting Elite sauna, just new and in my opinion the best in terms of luxury.
From your list my favorite is 999, best and largest selection of girls (again IMHO).
Prices are fixed, so dont worry about rip-off, it differs per place between 600-800 RMB for about 70 min.
[QUOTE=Nothelley]Hi,
I've been looking through this forum for a nice bbs in Shanghai, and somewhat all the massive information just overwhelm me to a point of confussion. I'll be staying in Holiday Inn Downtown near the railstation next week, this is my 2nd stay in shanghai. First one was two years ago at the same hotel, only managed to get service through the room massage which was not very entertaining and cost me 1,000 (yikes!)
This time I'd like to wonder around, and managed to sort out few places based on reports from few brothers here:
1. Shanghai Hotel
2. World Plaza B2
3. 999
4. Sacrosa
Am I missing something from the list or is there any other place recommended? I'm looking for a relaxing place with nice facilities/girls and since I can't speak or read any Chinese, language would be a problem. What's the standard procedure in getting into this place and damage cost? I just don't want to get rip off by agreeing into something that I don't understand.
Thanks a bunch in advance[/QUOTE]
Hello mates,
I am going to be for 1st time in Shanghai April 12-17.
If anyone is up for a beer and some good advices, just let me know with a PM.
Thanks in advance!
Cheeers!
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Yes, there is Menu. RMB228 is the most expensive and that is what you want. I would rate Garden house faciliities over Peacock, but when I was there, there was no shower.
Btw, th e website seems to be a dead link
[QUOTE=Lad78][QUOTE=Beijing Fox]Hi Bier,
I was there yesterday.
The exact address is:
Garden House
191 Nandan Rd.
02134240103
They also have a web site:
Gardenhouse dot com dot cn
Open apparently from 1100 to 0400
Worth a visit
Hi Bejing Fox,
Is there a menu at this place with the services, like at Peacock?
At Peacock it's easy because you usually point at the price in the small menu list.
I read before that here it's somewhere around 220 RMB.
How would you compare the facilieties with Peacock?
I like the shower in the room there but the facilities aren't exactly luxurious if you know what I mean.
Cheers[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sixty Cent]Hint for the ones interested
My beauty ex #511 from sacrosa (read old reports) now works in a new place: #230, GuangLing Number 4 road
398rmb for 1h30 of pure pleasure. I only my babe who is now #65 in this place. But I so many other cute babes.
Best place as far as money for quality
If you go, please post and tell me what you think!
Tell my babe that it is her "boyfriend" who gave the address[/QUOTE]I had been wanting to try #511 (now #65. Name is Zhun) for some time, thanks for letting us know where she's at.
Location: No business card available from them and didn't ask name.
Rmb30 taxi from Jingan. About 10 minute walk from Chifeng Lu station (exit 1), which is the stop north of Honkou Stadium on Line 3.
Facilities far worse than Sacrosa, a little worse than WP, no English at all. Rmb398 for 50 minutes.
#65 (no English)
Summary
Looks: 8 (not any better than the better Sacrosa ones)
Tits: 7.5 (I'm not fond of enhanced, but they weren't hard)
Attitude: 10 (hard working girl, non-stop action)
GFE: 9 (not up to former #5 at WP level, who set the standard for me)
Repeatable: Yes if in the neighborhood
With only 50 minutes, I was a bit rushed to get in the obligatory 2 pops, but it's a very good deal. I went about 4:30pm on a weekday and it wasn't that busy, but she said it was normally busier, few foreigners. She also said it was a 24 hr facility, hope someone can reconfirm that.
[QUOTE=Lammtarra]Hello mates,
I am going to be for 1st time in Shanghai April 12-17.
If anyone is up for a beer and some good advices, just let me know with a PM.
Thanks in advance!
Cheeers![/QUOTE]Hi,
I will be in SH too, where are you staying?
Cheers
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[QUOTE=Apple Court]I had been wanting to try #511 (now #65. Name is Zhun) for some time, thanks for letting us know where she's at.
Location: No business card available from them and didn't ask name.
Rmb30 taxi from Jingan. About 10 minute walk from Chifeng Lu station (exit 1), which is the stop north of Honkou Stadium on Line 3.
Facilities far worse than Sacrosa, a little worse than WP, no English at all. Rmb398 for 50 minutes.
#65 (no English)
Summary
Looks: 8 (not any better than the better Sacrosa ones)
Tits: 7.5 (I'm not fond of enhanced, but they weren't hard)
Attitude: 10 (hard working girl, non-stop action)
GFE: 9 (not up to former #5 at WP level, who set the standard for me)
Repeatable: Yes if in the neighborhood
With only 50 minutes, I was a bit rushed to get in the obligatory 2 pops, but it's a very good deal. I went about 4:30pm on a weekday and it wasn't that busy, but she said it was normally busier, few foreigners. She also said it was a 24 hr facility, hope someone can reconfirm that.[/QUOTE]Glad you enjoyed. She immediately told me (she is also one of my GF, I have the priviledge to F*** in her appartment
She told me your Chinese is quite good
Sorry to disagree with you a little though. You forgot to mention her perfect body, flat stomach (many girls are a little fat)
And for the GFE, I put at same level as #5. She kisses as well as #5, as humid. But the difference is that she takes all in the mouth (same as #5) but swallows without having to tell her to do so. Which make her a reference. So I put a 10 for GFE.
As you said, the deal is good, I confirm it is 24h, the girls sleep there. And the choice is same as Sacrosa but almost half price (398 vs 680 a sacrosa in the evening)
[QUOTE=Sixty Cent]As you said, the deal is good, I confirm it is 24h, the girls sleep there. And the choice is same as Sacrosa but almost half price (398 vs 680 a sacrosa in the evening)[/QUOTE]Indeed I forgot to mention her flat stomach and perfectly shaped ass! The 50 minutes surprised me and threw my usual timing off. I even forgot about kissing her! She did seem to genuinely enjoy sex, I just didn't have enough time to get comfortable with her. If it's rmb398 for 24hrs, that's even better yet.
They at first said she wasn't there, and I was about to go when they then looked harder and found her. How's the line-up? Is there any way to call ahead and reserve?
Anyway, great find. Thanks.
I have not posted here but I have been reading for quite a while. Time to add my scribble.
I don't go often but over time have tried several places. I now stay away from BBS. I always am disappointed. Stopped when ZY lost its charm and its good girls. Don't like to travel to far so like to stay downtown unless there is something exceptional to check out.
The Spas seems to have what I want. The Best recent, last few months, experiences have been to:
WP. Last 2 times great choices and both times winners. Fresh girls, nice bodies, good attitudes. Best consistent attitude among choices.
209 Wulumuchi. Just had a makeover. Great line up of girls, great room for soapies. Girls have a decent attitude, but not quite GFE or PSE. They also just raised their prices to 790 after you get their card. Still, have not been disappointed there. #3 was very cute and #20 gave me the best soapy ever.
Songshan Lu. Half block off huai hai, east side of the street under the arch. First door on right past the gate (arch). Always a good line up. 600 afternoon price is turning out to be a deal. No soapy here. There is a jewel there. Number 525 from Sichuan goes by lanlan. Cute, extremely hot, big C cup tits and really into it. Last time she said she would be going to 999. Best PSE ever.
999. Only went once. It is had the most fabulous lineup of girls and the girl I got was good. Again. Very nice looking, adequate attitude. Good soapy. 680 for the afternoon. Would go back.
SH Hotel. Was disappoointed. Nice lineup. But too busy and too rushed. Probabliy will not go back with the other choices available.
So maybe this will bring a little life back to this forum.
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[QUOTE=Ira Johnson]Thanks to all who responded - glad we connected. Good to meet some of you brothers and share this product, as well as tips and tricks
To refresh your memory, I have located a generic Cialis substitute. I use this myself, and I am quite happy with it. Our brothers have taken it with them on excursions in and around China, Taiwan, and Thailand and even back to the West. They also seem pleased.
It is made from sildenafil citrate, the same as the prescription brand of Viagra in the USA, but it is significantly cheaper. As you may realize, authentic Cialis costs about 500 RMB for 5 pills - about 100 RMB per pill. The generic is only 30 RMB per pill, and comes in a bottle of 10 - 300 RMB.
That's twice as much 'bang' for less than half the cost.
Granted, this particular 'generic' is not FDA approved, but other expats in the area have used it quite a bit. Still, keep in mind the same precautions you would observe with any supplement.
I've noticed it can also be embarrassing to visit one of these stores as an expat - you stand out, and the ever-helpful a-yis are suggesting all manner of items. Plus, if you do not speak much Chinese you are not certain what you will get.
I've still got a limited supply. I can deliver a bottle of 10 to you at any metro stop at your convenience for only 300RMB.[/QUOTE]
Thanks Ira, good stuff. I used one pill (actually capsule) and it was still active more than 24 hours later. Kinda like the "weekender" Cialis.
I hit a couple of local pharmacies but can't find it so far in Shanghai. Will be looking for a refill soon............. Thanks again
ES
[QUOTE=Apple Court]Indeed I forgot to mention her flat stomach and perfectly shaped ass! The 50 minutes surprised me and threw my usual timing off. I even forgot about kissing her! She did seem to genuinely enjoy sex, I just didn't have enough time to get comfortable with her. If it's rmb398 for 24hrs, that's even better yet.
They at first said she wasn't there, and I was about to go when they then looked harder and found her. How's the line-up? Is there any way to call ahead and reserve?
Anyway, great find. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I can give you her mobile: just sms her with time you come!
[QUOTE=Low Dai]I have not posted here but I have been reading for quite a while. Time to add my scribble.
I don't go often but over time have tried several places. I now stay away from BBS. I always am disappointed. Stopped when ZY lost its charm and its good girls. Don't like to travel to far so like to stay downtown unless there is something exceptional to check out.
The Spas seems to have what I want. The Best recent, last few months, experiences have been to:
WP. Last 2 times great choices and both times winners. Fresh girls, nice bodies, good attitudes. Best consistent attitude among choices.
209 Wulumuchi. Just had a makeover. Great line up of girls, great room for soapies. Girls have a decent attitude, but not quite GFE or PSE. They also just raised their prices to 790 after you get their card. Still, have not been disappointed there. #3 was very cute and #20 gave me the best soapy ever.
Songshan Lu. Half block off huai hai, east side of the street under the arch. First door on right past the gate (arch). Always a good line up. 600 afternoon price is turning out to be a deal. No soapy here. There is a jewel there. Number 525 from Sichuan goes by lanlan. Cute, extremely hot, big C cup tits and really into it. Last time she said she would be going to 999. Best PSE ever.
999. Only went once. It is had the most fabulous lineup of girls and the girl I got was good. Again. Very nice looking, adequate attitude. Good soapy. 680 for the afternoon. Would go back.
SH Hotel. Was disappoointed. Nice lineup. But too busy and too rushed. Probabliy will not go back with the other choices available.
So maybe this will bring a little life back to this forum.
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999 sounds like the best from your description. But would like to check them all out. I have frequented 209 quite a bit (previously posted), but have not heard of these others, unless you are referring to them under different names.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Mark17]So can you give more detailed locations for 999, WP and Thanks[/QUOTE]I believe:
999 = Yu Ping's. Located near Shanghai Stadium. Take the Metro Line 4 to Shanghai Stadium (not Indoor Stadium! ), exit 3 and keep walking until you cross a street (Stadium is on your right). Keep going straight about half a block and you should see on the opposite side of the road a 999 sign overhead in red.
WP = World Plaza. Take Metro Line 2 to Dongchang, exit 3 leads you straight to B1 of the mall. Take the stairs leading down to B2. There's an open glass doorway and usually a male attendant around.
Hope this helps!
[QUOTE=Mark17]So can you give more detailed locations for 999, WP and Shong Shan Lu?
999 sounds like the best from your description. But would like to check them all out. I have frequented 209 quite a bit (previously posted), but have not heard of these others, unless you are referring to them under different names.
Thanks[/QUOTE]With the exception, all talked about extensively. WP- World Plaza B2 at the Dong Chang subway station on Line 2. There is actually a corridor from the subway. Then to to B2. Its the only thing there.
999 is Yu Ping. 999 Tianyaoqiao Lu. Near the stadium south of XueJiaHui.
SongShan is on Song Shan, one block east from the Huang Pi Lu Subway station (Huang Pi at Huai Hai) and half block south of huaihai. Look for the arch and a lane with KTV signs.
Guys,
I feel retarded. But ecstatic at the same time. I read back through my own reports from last year and to my surprise it was #511 (not #595. Don't know where that # came from) I had seen last year. And man-o-man I agree she's awesome! Stupid me lost the cell number she gave me last year. Well, I did leave the country for a year the next day. But now that you've decoded her new whereabouts, I am definitely going to give her a visit at her new locale.
Thanks guys! You made my month . Now I just have to get through the next several weeks before I'm back in Shanghai.
Any news on what has happened to former #5 at WP?
[QUOTE=Lad78]I don't understand why people have to give such a big tip for an already pricey massage & handjob.
If the girl is insisting on a tip, just simply point at the red sign in the room (of course in Chinese) who clearly says that "no tips are allowed".
I had one girl there who played the "tips" trick and she quickly apologized and begged me not to tell to her laoban (boss) after I showed her the red sign.
Guys don't get fooled please, the place is already dear enough at 298RMB, we don't need to pay extra 100-200 RMB to get a nice service! With that money you can afford a sauna!
A reasonable tip is 50 RMB only if you get exceptional service, or you can get the girl to take off her bra or let you touch her. Otherwise, if you have to tip, just stick to 20 RMB.[/QUOTE]
I was there last week. A great disappointment - out from my directory list.
Last December, I had a great service by No. 17 - around 23 yo. This time called and booked the same number, surprised a teenage girl came and gave a very bad service, I would not called it a massage either. My language limitation did not allow me to continue the conversation about the 'wrong' girl.
[QUOTE=Golly Woggle]Guys,
I feel retarded. But ecstatic at the same time. I read back through my own reports from last year and to my surprise it was #511 (not #595. Don't know where that # came from) I had seen last year. And man-o-man I agree she's awesome! Stupid me lost the cell number she gave me last year. Well, I did leave the country for a year the next day. But now that you've decoded her new whereabouts, I am definitely going to give her a visit at her new locale.
Thanks guys! You made my month . Now I just have to get through the next several weeks before I'm back in Shanghai.
Any news on what has happened to former #5 at WP?[/QUOTE]I did not know #5 had gone... you know she leaves close to WP with her husband (who knows about her job) and little daughter?
Well, myabe she started the family life?
Concerning #511, if you want the mobile just PM me
Hi All,
If you like massage (including special services) Shanghai has quite a lot to offer. There are many massage parlors where massages are offered such as those that 'enhance sexual function'. They last for 45-150 minutes and cost between 200 and 390 RMB. A pretty good price. (some 25-45 Euros currently)
Outcall massages are also offered more and more frequently, with prices of 200 RMb - 300 RMB for 2 hours of massage with 1 or 2 girls. Here are some working phone numbers I found in the TALK magazine that you will find in hotels over here (all data March 2009). They offer massage in your home or hotel. Please add the taxi price to these prices if you only do massage. (and no FS) Taxi cost will be some 50-100 rmb.
Romantic Massage (139-1766-3450) prices start at 200 for 120 minutes up to 388 rmb for 2 girls and 150 minutes
Twins Massage (139-1725-1749) Fu tantric massage (2 girls, 388 RMB)
JoJo Massage (159-0081-1460) French Romantic Massage ( 260 rmb / 120 minutes, 1 WG)
In all cases you will get an english speaking lady on the phone that will ask for your hotel telephone number and room number. They say the WG will be there in 20 minutes but it usually takes some 30-40 minutes. Tell them your WG preferences if you have any. (for instance I dont like 'fat'WGs)
The WG typically is a sweet young one (20-25 years old) that does some work on the side to get some extra income. They will expect and hope that you want more than a massage so they can earn (a lot) more than just for the massage. If you only want a massage, make it clear from the start. FS will be something like 1000 RMB (or less!) for 2 hours. But that is up to your negotiating skills. English is minimal, but at least most these WGs speak some. Oral is not their thing BTW. The hotel I was in (near Pudong) had no problem with visiting WGs. The quality of the massages was average to good.
have fun,
Dutch44
[QUOTE=Low Dai]209 Wulumuchi. Just had a makeover. Great line up of girls, great room for soapies. Girls have a decent attitude, but not quite GFE or PSE. They also just raised their prices to 790 after you get their card. Still, have not been disappointed there. #3 was very cute and #20 gave me the best soapy ever.
[/QUOTE][b]Dear Old 209 5th Floor[/b]
209 WM was a long time my favourite. Nothing else beat it. But then it seemed to lose its edge, the girls seemed to dwindle to nout and I stopped going. Didn't stop seing one of the girls . . . another story.
[b]Lipstick On Your Coc, err Collar[/b]
Anyway, on the mention of 'just had a makeover' I thought I would head back .. . I'm a cynic you see. Not manay places that 'have had a make over' really have. But boy oh boy have they. See attached. It is the most 'classy' (check: is it genuinely possible to have a 'classy sauna'?) place I have been too. Akin to some kind of bad 1990's disco. If Duran Duran had turned up with their jacket sleeves rolled up and hing off a yacht then I would not have been surprised. Oh, hell, I'm dating myself. That was the 80's. But they do have a glitter ball some quite classy porn.
[b]Pricey Prices[/b]
Anyway, yes, the prices are up from before. They were rock solid at 700RMB for 60 mins unless you got lucky. 880RMB? Hell, this is a [i][b]GLOBAL FINANCIAL CRISIS[/b][/i] has no one in the Shanghai scene figured (they sure have on Tongren Lu)? OK, 790 with a [i][b]VIP Card[/b][/i]. Which is technically only 10RMB 'cos you are going to pay 880 if you don't buy one.
[b]In Conclusion[/b]
Still, the facilities are superbly clean, the girls are . . . not bad but not great. They seemed to be going for top heavy girls which is a good thing in a soapy but a couple had thundering thighs. OK, if you like 'em chunky.
90 mins which is an improvement (so RMB/min is actually better) and they even have a menu of all the slippy slidy moves. Just so you can practice with your gf at home ("Darling, come into the bathroom and slip slide away on me . . . ")
Hmmm, I may well be back.
Have Fun
WGS
Hello Gents,
I am in Shanghai this week staying at the Central Hotel Shanghai.
Any recommendations for outcall or action within walking distance of this hotel?
Its been a long time since I was in this city.
thanks.
hey guys,
i'm no expert on traveling in china or on mongering. i've been lucky enough to be sent on some business trips through china and thailand, and had a few good times. my experience in shanghai has been limited to a couple of trips to 999. george claims to have the best place in shanghai, and i can't argue with him since i don't really have any desire to go anywhere else for the same sort of experience, it was that good. my thanks to those of you who have submitted reports for steering me over there.
the first time i visited 999 was about a full year ago. i went through the whole undressing/showering-in-front-of-the-male-chorus/not-knowing-when to-put-on-sandals-or-leave-them-or-trip-over-them thing at least partly informed, from your reports. i finally got down to the lineup with one of the staff who didn't speak much english. it was later afternoon, and when the screen came up, my jaw nearly hit the floor. only twelve or so girls, but most of them were more than pretty enough to keep me happy. obviously the window is see through, since at least a couple of the girls were giving me their best looks and looking right in my eyes, and i was about to pick one short-haired girl in front, following the advice on picking a girl with some response to you, when i became seriously stupid and asked the staffer which one he'd pick if he were a white guy visiting shanghai (yes, i know, he didn't show any hint of thinking the comment was funny). he said "number 887 give service number one! ". i looked at 887 and she was pretty enough, but busy staring at her shoes. she had nice shoes and feet, but still. anyway, i took his advice, figuring how bad could it be. the rest of her was nice, shoulder length hair, very pretty eyes, nice b-cup tits, nice toned legs and what looked like a nice, athletic ass, too.
well, she came out and took my hand, and i asked her if she spoke any english, and she just shook her head and said "no. " great, since i have about zero mandarin. then i tried to ask her name, and she went off at me, basically telling me, from what i could get, that her name didn't matter to guys like me. ok. then she leads me into the room and becomes more professional about all this. shy smile, helps me off with the pajamas, takes off her own clothes, walks over and takes my face in her hands, and when i lean in to kiss her, she turns my face and kisses me on the cheek. wow. i was wondering if it was too late to call this whole thing off. but then i figured at least it would make a good post on isg, right?
i'd never had a soapy before, and that was fun. she washed me down and ran her hands all over me. i got some of the soap on her and was having fun soaping her up, and then i leaned over and sucked one of her nipples, and she jumped and went "oh! " in this little chirp. i figure, great, now bad acting on top of everything else. but she did suck me off while she was washing my legs.
and she did get into the soapy, being aggressive with rubbing herself all over me. she started into the cat bath, and was really good at it, but i'm pretty ticklish and couldn't handle the soles of the feet/back of the knees part of this. she smiled like i was making this whole thing harder than it needed to be, and when i pulled her down on me, and tried to kiss her, at least she let me kiss her lips, but no tongue. i figured she'd been told "no dfk! " by some other girl.
when she went for ar, i stopped her. i'm really not into that. she looked at me like she was hurt or scared because i'd stopped her, and i made it clear to her it was just because i didn't like it. she got us both standing, washed us off, then toweled me off and then herself, and led me to the bed. she motioned if i wanted a cup of water, which i did, and she got me one, then put a towel down on the bed and pulled a cup of hot and a cup of cold water. then came the hot-and-cold bj.
never had one of those before, and it was good. man, the hot part made me nuts. she did this for a pretty long time, and i was getting pretty damn close. she reached over and pulled out a condom and said "yes? " but i figured at this point i'd last about two minutes inside her, so instead i moved over and motioned for her to lie down. and she looked completely confused. apparently no one had warned her about this. i laughed and said, "i won't hurt you! " and she did lie down, still looking puzzled and a little worried.
i kissed her on her (still closed) lips, then worked down to her nipples, and then to her belly, and she started to get the idea. by the time i arrived at her pussy, she had spread her legs and was holding her head up to watch. i licked up the outside of both sides of her lips, then spread her open a little and licked up the inside, and she moaned. i worked on kissing and licking around her pussy lips until she got good and wet, then just dove in and licked all the way up her slit, and she tasted amazingly good, very fresh and very sweet.
after a bit, i grabbed a pillow from behind her head and put it under her hips. she was wiggling back away from me, but i grabbed her hips and pulled her back up on the pillow and she moaned again. i worked away, and she was breathing deeper, moaning more and more often and getting wetter and wetter. i slide back up her body and this time, she opened right up and frenched me right back. when i licked her neck, she actually gasped.
back down, and i got back to work on her. i reached up and fondled her breast, and she took my hand and sucked on my finger, eyes still closed. when i tried to finger her, though, her hand shot down and blocked off her pussy. ok, so no finger-fucking, someone had told her. ok. i kept sucking and finally started in on her clit for real. she started to breathe faster, too, and then i stopped and she almost jumped off the bed, glaring at me, and i slid back up and kissed her hard. i felt her grab my cock and start brushing my head into her pussy and i actually said "hey! " not that i would have minded her pulling me in, but really, that's too risky for me. she looked startled, and then let me go.
so i slid back down, went back to work, and this time when i tried to put a finger into her, she didn't stop me, just arched her back and moaned again. now i was fingering her and sucking her clit in a nice rhythm, and she was humping up into my mouth. she even reached down, put her hands behind her knees and lifted and spread her legs even more.
finally, she stopped breathing at all except for little gasps, and her stomach muscles were tensed right up. i reached up with my free hand and pushed gently down on her stomach, and that was one too many sensations for her. she actually arched right up, screamed, and then kept making these load gasps for what seemed like a minute. i heard another pair of girls in the hallway call out something and laugh, while she was making all this noise. i would have kept licking to help her along, but both her hands came down to cover herself as soon as she started to come, so i just watched and slid up the bed beside her.
when she started to calm down, she was breathing hard and bright red. she opened her eyes and looked at me smiling at her, and immediately scrunched her eyes shut, fluttered her hands at me, and then covered her face. i couldn't help it, i started laughing. when she peeked at me, i told her, in english, "that was fun! ". she finally smiled, then got a glint in her eye and rolled me over.
and then she went nuts blowing me. nice and deep and fast. she wasn't trying to be fancy, she was just looking to make me come, and right now. it was great. although after a bit, i realized i wasn't quite clear how to tell a chinese hooker that spoke almost no english that i was about to come in her mouth. then i figured, silly me, that this wouldn't be a first for her, so what the hell, when she stopped, pulled the condom out of who knows where, and nodded her head like mad and said "yes! "
i agreed with her and she tore the condom wrapper apart, got the way too tight condom on me in record time, and then squatted over me and slid me right in. she was very, very wet and very tight, and slid herself up and down at a pretty good pace, me holding her hips. i tried to slow her down by sitting back up and kissing her, or sucking her tits, but she was just too tight, and the next time i sat up, it was because i was shooting my load into her.
she collapsed down on top of me, and we kept kissing. she didn't seem anxious to get off me, which was fine with me, and when i could see straight again, i looked at her and said "thank you". she laughed, looked right back and said "thank you! " and it was my turn to laugh.
no time left to do a second round. we got up and showered off, with her laughing like crazy after i pointed to my face when she was soaping me down, and i finally had to take her hand and wash my face off. i really didn't want to go out in the street with her pussy juice all over my face, but she must have thought it was hilarious that she didn't think of that. she sat on my lap while we were getting dressed and gave me one last really good dfk session, and then we left the room, and i got intercepted by george on the way down, so no time to do anything other than say "au revoir" to her. except there wasn't another time, because by the time i came back to shanghai, she didn't work there anymore.
if anyone cares, i'll write about my other, more recent, experience at 999 sometime.
now, my request for advice. i am going back to shanghai yet again, and unlike some other guys on the board, i find i enjoy longer sessions with girls more than short, although only if they are into it. my question, does anyone have a secret recipe they'd like to share on getting the same sort of gfe i had at 999 with an overnighter? and does anyone know if the sheraton or the four points in pudong are wg friendly? it would be good to know recent experience. i'll also be visiting guangzhou, maybe, and will be sure to visit the forum, but any tips there would be appreciated, too.
thanks, guys
play safe
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Fake cialis was unimpressive.
I was of course intrigued by the idea of cheap knock off Cialis here from Ira Johnson and met up for some. I've since taken one cap four different times, and have the opinion it is as worthless as the labeling is humorous.
Didn't work. At all. 2 bottles of 10 little green caps at 600 kuai total. Ouch but oh well, wasn't gambling the rent. That's the summary, but feel entitled to address a personal jibe posted here.
As Me-n-Ira discussed, if I was impressed, I would gladly post here. Share the love as it were. The opposite deal seems fair enough too. After I was very UNimpressed (X4), but in a pique of fairness, I wrote him direct first, with exact worst words "Coming to you for a refund before I spread my opinion. " Ira describes this gesture as a "threat", hedged around a few emails, posted damage control here, then begged off ('though I fess he offered a bottle swap. As if.) Was I terse? Granted. Threatening? Give me a break. Did I forget a magic word? Poof, the RMB already disappeared! But insulting me here to boot? Ira ira ira. You wouldn't know a tantrum until it. Well, fk'it. Karma is.
I have not read the whole history here, and won't contradict any solid members who have other opinions. I tested the caps on some quality plumbing and simply don't agree. Urge you to keep your funds away from it.
Now I just love each and every papa's little helpers, mainly quaffed to show a few hours gratitude to sweet friends who oblige to call in sex for, I mean, call in sick for work. Their appreciation is ever touching.
Should anyone still wonder, visit most any real looking local druggist (many have VitaMan V advertised on the window. Those are good bets! ) and look around or ask. VitaMan C is slightly less common, peruse upscale areas first most. The occasional clerk may look you over funny & refuse, so simply smile bye and head for the next shop.
Thats the book. Still searching for that poot of gold, with faith to locate economical genuine fake V, C and L. I'm heading back to the playground, Ira. Time to admire those short short plaids & boots reappearing with the Sun. Though I don't make spend a lot of time getting trim at BBSs anymore, I'll make up for the diatribe by soon posting some good streets, or other amusing tidbits. Champagne to friends and true pain to enemies.
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[QUOTE=Hereandthere]Hey Guys,
I'm no expert on traveling in China or on mongering. I've been lucky enough to be sent on some business trips through China and Thailand, and had a few good times. My experience in Shanghai has been limited to a couple of trips to 999. George claims to have the best place in Shanghai, and I can't argue with him since I don't really have any desire to go anywhere else for the same sort of experience, it was that good. My thanks to those of you who have submitted reports for steering me over there.[/QUOTE]Great post man! what a happy ending.
Guys,
In a country ladden with fake stuff, why on earth you keep playing Russian Roulette with fake pills, that might work or not, and might harm you big time?
Would you buy your cholesterol, diabetes or heart pills from a peddler, in a subway station? Why ON EARTH you keep risking your health???
Over-the-counter vitamin V costs 550 for 5 pops in any real pharmacy. That adds 110 RMB (+15%) to a session in a sauna, but you don't risk your life. People tamper with baby formula in this country, what makes you guys think they will not tamper with pills for the "little brother"? Just because they're delivered by a laowai?
Ira, I mean no bad to you, but this is pretty irresponsible (and maybe greedy?) behaviour. enough said!
[QUOTE=Silk Fan]Fake cialis was unimpressive.
I was of course intrigued by the idea of cheap knock off Cialis here from Ira Johnson and met up for some. I've since taken one cap four different times, and have the opinion it is as worthless as the labeling is humorous.
Didn't work. At all. 2 bottles of 10 little green caps at 600 kuai total. Ouch but oh well, wasn't gambling the rent. That's the summary, but feel entitled to address a personal jibe posted here.
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[QUOTE=Hereandthere]Hey Guys,
I'm no expert on traveling in China or on mongering. I've been lucky enough to be sent on some business trips through China and Thailand, and had a few good times. My experience in Shanghai has been limited to a couple of trips to 999. George claims to have the best place in Shanghai, and I can't argue with him since I don't really have any desire to go anywhere else for the same sort of experience, it was that good. My thanks to those of you who have submitted reports for steering me over there.[/QUOTE]Nice report bro! Great to see she warmed up to you. I'd try her out, however I fear she may not warm up to me as she did to you.
FYI George moved to another place and unfortunately none of the other attendants speak english.
Well bros, I too visited NHG this last week. It was a total bust. The only positive thing was that it was close to the Hilton. I was jet lagged and did not realize SH was closer. Brief report.
Went there around 9 pm on Friday night. Damage was 894 RMB, not 892, which is no big deal. The place was very quiet. Only saw one other monger. Facilities was certainly clean and new. Should have asked for a tour first. But I relied on one positive report and it was a big mistake. After shower they sent me to room with a girl, maybe a 7 at best and slightly overweight. I turned her down and the manger assured me there were others but they were busy. So I wait 15 minutes and went back to room to find same girl with 2 others who were 4 or 5's. Should have left but being tired and a little horny I stayed.
No point in reporting a medicore massage and service. However I did share my dissatisfaction with management. Told them there was a positive report on ISG and they did not meet standards. Perfunctory apology but no offer of better pricing or girls next time.
Readers should remember that 894 RMB is very high price for Shanghai. My advice not to patronize this place. If you do, make sure you check out the line up before stripping.
I took one for the bros and happy to do so if others are forewarned.
Tried Ira's fake cialis number 5 and 6. No perceivable useful effect. Still have the informed opinion that this fake cialis is bogus. Still out 600 chunks.
Ira; take the criticism like a man, ? The forum exists for a reason. For instance, say you were giving out lousy BJs, I wouldn't know nothing about it, but it would be an option, privilege and duty to report said results. Likewise if you were giving really really good BJs, I wouldn't know anything about that either, but you could still have some pride.
Drainaps; right on, I honor your right to voice an opinion and make this site interesting. Then there, pharmacy Vita V runs 495 at shops I pass. Pays to shop around. Have not been faked out there yet, but I watch ccTV news and see weekly reports decrying bogus stuff of all varieties, even at very tidy shops. As far as the threat level here; don't forget eating, drinking, breathing, driving, walking, shopping & shagging on the list of potential pitfalls. But I find many unforgettable joys too. Maybe I am just a half full kind of guy ha! In this case, poisoning me might be too expensive, while cornstarch is cheap.
I'm going to be in shanghai for 2 nights April 6 or 7th. Can someone suggest to me a decent hotel that is walking distance to 999 or what area I should stay in.
Thanks
Howard Johnson All suites on Yan An West road is a good choice. 580 weekend price but if you call ctrip and book you can get the room for 480 then upgrade at the hotel for their special free breakfast and free internet for a hundred and change. Nice suites and very girl friendly.
Also been to 500 Wuzhong road and the girls are still hot and service is very good. Have a card listing all the activities they must do and also have lots of uniforms. Not soapland though but for the price not bad. Also try the foot massage and kidney massage. Tall skinny girl give the best balls and shaft hand job with baby oil for only a hundred and change extra.
[QUOTE=Dragon D]Howard Johnson All suites on Yan An West road is a good choice. 580 weekend price but if you call ctrip and book you can get the room for 480 then upgrade at the hotel for their special free breakfast and free internet for a hundred and change. Nice suites and very girl friendly.
Also been to 500 Wuzhong road and the girls are still hot and service is very good. Have a card listing all the activities they must do and also have lots of uniforms. Not soapland though but for the price not bad. Also try the foot massage and kidney massage. Tall skinny girl give the best balls and shaft hand job with baby oil for only a hundred and change extra.[/QUOTE]VI: The HJAS is a fine hotel, but your walking distance will be about 2.5 miles each way.
Progressively closer options are: Holiday Inn Crowne Plaza, Arcada, Tianping, Grand Gateway Plaza, West Asia, and Jianguo. Suggest you review them on ctrip. Or you can stay elsewhere and arrive by #4 subway line!
I've read much of the posting here and in some of the other areas covering SE Asia, and to someone looking for some good p4p action, there is much to recommend many destinations. I hope to make a trip later this year, and I've more or less thinned down the places I'd like to go to three:
Bangkok
Manila
Shanghi
From everything I've read, Manila and Bangkok seem to give the best value-for-money, as the prices for even the best girls is fairly low, either ST or LT. On the flip side, the cost of getting to either of those two places is close to double the cost of getting to Shanghi. And that fair city has many things that intrigue me too (like the chance to experience a 'red rope massage' among other things).
So, I'll ask the question that lead me to title this post as I did:
Why should I go to Shanghi and not either of the other two places?
Any regulars want to step forward to make the case for your city? I'm open to any arguement, reasonable intelligently phrased, so how about it?
all,
whenever there is a trip to shanghai it always perks me up (pun intended). i was here a few months back in january and a few of you had provided me some inputs, many thanks for it. i spent a couple of days in shanghai and then headed out to beijing (wanted to see the great wall it was quite and experience especially at.14 c).
anyways to the real experiences, i visited due to paucity of time only a couple of spas, sarcosa and the one i always go to in huai hai rd. sarcosa was a little tricky to reach although directions of the site were useful. went straight for the lineup after a quick shower and ignored all and as recommended by many asked for #503. the lady on the counter read my number (i know nothing of mandarin) and nodded her head. off to a room, and a lady peeped in, the exalted #503, must say, she is pretty and has a good rack, petite and bubbly. she was enthusiastic, very gfe, great bj technique, two shots (both in the mouth), overall a very nice experience, and i would rate her 7/10 any day, however it was bit of a let down (i will explain in detail why) against all that i had read.
for people who don't quite care about fs, and enjoy a bj just as bit or even more, i would still suggest you give this place on huai hai lu a look. this place is on the 9th floor on the same building as a ktv. the building is opposite times square on huai hain road.
it's expensive i spent rmb 892 last time i was there but wow what a girl. the girl was easily 9/10 among models. could easily be someone on the cover of a magazine. her figure of just right. i got 90 minutes of massage, with superb bj technique and i came 3 time during the session and she was always eager to please. the girls there are a more sophisticated, the decor is decent although i won't call it opulent, the service is warm.
it maybe a personal choice, but what the heck i thought i would write it down for people who maybe interested.
further i am coming over again in april, and i would like to try something other than the spas. it's becoming a bit unidimensional for me. so i have listed out a few independent escorts whom i shall be trying, and will also try the tonghren lu bars, and incall massage facilities. if you all have any thoughts and suggestions of anything interesting that i can tryout, please share, would be eager to hear.
thanks,
apple
[quote=applepolish]all,
i am coming back again for some work in january but i also wanted to take a few days off and travel to beijing, see the forbidden city and the great wall. since i can only travel for 5-6 days from 25 jan onwards which i understand is festival time. are there any do’s and don’t for festival time? any tips would be much appreciated.
thanks,
applepolish
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After reading the other reports on heting elite I thought I would take the trip. Its in a part of town I'm not used to but I found the black doors and was soon inside like a spy back into seccret headquarters. Ushered into a lift I soon found myself at the lobby of a contemporary Chinese styled club that hinted at hetings ambiguity and quality. I was greeted by paul, an english speaking manager who was very interested in my experience ahead and looked forward to chatting to me afterward. Ok. The change room was nice, carpetted floors and into a white robe. Fruit was served but I wasn't there for healthy eating. The decor is really nice contemporary Chinese modern like a boutique hotel rather than the feel of a palace like other sauna's and there are some nice touches. The bathing area is clean and feels filled with natural light. The staff helpful but not intrusive. Then we hit the fishbowl. Curtains and lights gave way to initial dissapointment. The decor and service leads you to believe there will be KTV/japanese av stunners behind the glass but alas the lineup could have been from anywhere in China from any star rating. Admittedly I was there during a quite early time but still I had to choose hard. 3 girls I wouldn't have even bothered with. I girls 118 and 119 looked ok but were heavily made up. 119 had bigger boobs and long legs so I choose her. She also looked quite bitchy at first. I usually go for cuter types, but she turned out to be good fun in the end. Led to the room I was impressed by the subdued quality of the rooms and the way the girl did not rush into her 'chores'. Instead we kind of flirted for a while slowly moving on to each performance like real lovers do. I don't know if she was trained for this or of her own accord but it was fun and as a result I ended up skipping some of the slow massagy parts and moving onto to mutual oral. The girl also allowed kissing which added to the gfe (although wouldn't really ever go out with a girl that style) experience and to be honest that sort of foreplay made me last longer when we came to the business. The girl had great soft tits and a very wet pussy. She seemed to enjoy what she was doing. Slutty enough to be kinky, good looking enough with those big eyes and lips to be seducing but I've had many cuter and better bodied girls at other places. This girl was good at BJ's though and loved to be touched herself. Nympho material baby. I missed soapy and roof mirrors but overall very good. Afterwards paul came in for feedback on cue. Hard to really discuss things in that situation. He knew all about the forum and the lack of 2 shots. I just said to hire more and better looking girls. That would be the common complaint here. A lamboghini showroom with well trained vw's. Check out though its definately worth the visit but I'll still be visiting other places like 999 simply because it all comes down to girls at the end of the day not whether a place has architecturallt chic decor.
Cheers
(written from phone in taxi, ignore typo's and lack of literary energy)
Hi guys,
I have a visitor here in Shanghai and he would like to have a session at 999 including soapy and red rope as well as AR (they do red rope at 999, don't they?).
As the managment does not speak english he needs the translation of these services to chinese (or at least to pinyin).
Anyone out there who could help?
Thanks,
Shamuc
Spontaneously I would reccommend Bangkok, but at second thought, I suggest Shanghai, because on tongren Lu you can find Chinese, Philippina and sometimes Thai girls. So you can sample all three at one place.
[QUOTE=Castlerae]I've read much of the posting here and in some of the other areas covering SE Asia, and to someone looking for some good p4p action, there is much to recommend many destinations. I hope to make a trip later this year, and I've more or less thinned down the places I'd like to go to three:
Bangkok
Manila
Shanghi
From everything I've read, Manila and Bangkok seem to give the best value-for-money, as the prices for even the best girls is fairly low, either ST or LT. On the flip side, the cost of getting to either of those two places is close to double the cost of getting to Shanghi. And that fair city has many things that intrigue me too (like the chance to experience a 'red rope massage' among other things).
So, I'll ask the question that lead me to title this post as I did:
Why should I go to Shanghi and not either of the other two places?
Any regulars want to step forward to make the case for your city? I'm open to any arguement, reasonable intelligently phrased, so how about it?[/QUOTE]
Is there any mongering out by airport or near.
Any massage or outcalls to hotels near pudong?
Starting to feel desperate really hope to get massage and relief we all know how that feels.
Your "visitor" doesn't require any translation help at 999. You show up, they know what you are there for, and they usher you through the various stages until you arrive at the delightful fishbowl. You select a girl and she also doesn't require any putonghua to provide excellent service.
No cheat sheet, no flash cards are necessary. The soapy is the main draw, if you like that sort of thing. It is definitely worth trying and enjoying!
Have not experienced red rope there, not sure if they do that. If that is required, go to Shanghai Hotel. But really - not sure what the big deal is with red ropes. The 999 girls will somehow satisfy you and / or your visitor!
Cheers, Phenyl
[QUOTE=Shamuc]Hi guys,
I have a visitor here in Shanghai and he would like to have a session at 999 including soapy and red rope as well as AR (they do red rope at 999, don't they?).
As the managment does not speak english he needs the translation of these services to chinese (or at least to pinyin).
Anyone out there who could help?
Thanks,
Shamuc[/QUOTE]
hey apple,
i am also travelling to shanghai in april and (perhap not coincidently on this site) also looking to dabble with some independent escorts. as this is always such a hit and miss affair i would really appreciate it if, should you find any ladies of distinction, you could point me in the right direction! i don't know about you but i would take [average looks + great attitude] over [stunner + average attitude] any day. unfortunately attitude is the one thing you cannot judge upfront from a generic advertisment and pic.
cheers
m angel
[quote=applepolish]all,
whenever there is a trip to shanghai it always perks me up (pun intended). i was here a few months back in january and a few of you had provided me some inputs, many thanks for it. i spent a couple of days in shanghai and then headed out to beijing (wanted to see the great wall it was quite and experience especially at.14 c).
anyways to the real experiences, i visited due to paucity of time only a couple of spas, sarcosa and the one i always go to in huai hai rd. sarcosa was a little tricky to reach although directions of the site were useful. went straight for the lineup after a quick shower and ignored all and as recommended by many asked for #503. the lady on the counter read my number (i know nothing of mandarin) and nodded her head. off to a room, and a lady peeped in, the exalted #503, must say, she is pretty and has a good rack, petite and bubbly. she was enthusiastic, very gfe, great bj technique, two shots (both in the mouth), overall a very nice experience, and i would rate her 7/10 any day, however it was bit of a let down (i will explain in detail why) against all that i had read.
for people who don't quite care about fs, and enjoy a bj just as bit or even more, i would still suggest you give this place on huai hai lu a look. this place is on the 9th floor on the same building as a ktv. the building is opposite times square on huai hain road.
it's expensive i spent rmb 892 last time i was there but wow what a girl. the girl was easily 9/10 among models. could easily be someone on the cover of a magazine. her figure of just right. i got 90 minutes of massage, with superb bj technique and i came 3 time during the session and she was always eager to please. the girls there are a more sophisticated, the decor is decent although i won't call it opulent, the service is warm.
it maybe a personal choice, but what the heck i thought i would write it down for people who maybe interested.
further i am coming over again in april, and i would like to try something other than the spas. it's becoming a bit unidimensional for me. so i have listed out a few independent escorts whom i shall be trying, and will also try the tonghren lu bars, and incall massage facilities. if you all have any thoughts and suggestions of anything interesting that i can tryout, please share, would be eager to hear.
thanks,
apple[/quote]
Beijing,
Variety would be nice, but to be honest, I'm not that rich, so I'm definately looking to get the max bang (ing) for the buck. That was the main reason for considering Manila/Bangkok, even though the airfares are significantly higher. I've been with a couple of Chinese providers here in the states, and both of them where good in their own different ways. Also had the chance to sample Thai and Hindi/Pakistani, which have their own special attributes. Still haven't decided yet. Have more than a couple more things to get to fall into place before I can even make the reservations, so I figure I've got until summer hits before everything's lined up and I know for sure if I can actually go or not. So, plenty of time to figure out where to go. Thanks for the input, and Shanghi hasn't been bumped from the 'to-do' list yet.
Went there yesterday around 2pm. Can't really fault it. Two beauties for 790rmb including red rope. It is not a soapy but still excellent. You need to go down the right side of the "yellow" car parts shop, and round the back. Go into hotel, go to 4th floor and as you come out of the lift turn right. Line up of 10 girls at 2pm all very do-able.
[QUOTE=Phenyl]Your "visitor" doesn't require any translation help at 999. You show up, they know what you are there for, and they usher you through the various stages until you arrive at the delightful fishbowl. You select a girl and she also doesn't require any putonghua to provide excellent service.
No cheat sheet, no flash cards are necessary. The soapy is the main draw, if you like that sort of thing. It is definitely worth trying and enjoying!
Have not experienced red rope there, not sure if they do that. If that is required, go to Shanghai Hotel. But really - not sure what the big deal is with red ropes. The 999 girls will somehow satisfy you and / or your visitor!
Cheers, Phenyl[/QUOTE]Dear Phenyl,
Thanks for your answer. As I wrote in another report my experience in 999 was different, rather bad. But I will give it another chance in future. When I was there I saw the metal construction above the bed, that's why I thought my friend could have all at once in 999. Sure, alternatively he might have another session in Shanghai Hotel.
Me, too, I think, Red Rope is nothing you need to repeat. But for a guest who will probably never return to China/Shanghai it's a "must have experienced".
Cheers,
Shamuc
i went to royal silver spring sauna which is on the 4th floor of hensheng peninsula hotel. it is an old joint and about 10 minutes walk away from the bund and nanjing lu.
[url]http://www.hs-peninsulahotel.com/eindex.htm[/url]
this place has not been talked about much by fellow mongers so i would like to share my experience.
i got there last saturday evening about 7. 30pm. i speak chinese so it was easy to tell the manager what kind of girl i would like. i got changed in the locker room, proceeded to the communual shower and then one of the assistant gave me a pair of shorts and a dressing gown after i had dried up.
i then rested in the lounge for a few minutes with a beer. the manager then escorted me upstairs to the 5th floor. he provided 3 girls for me to choose from (all in various uniforms). i choose this really cute one about 165cm, big eyes. she was wearing a japanese style office lady outfit with black stockings and high heels. my little brother immediately stood to attention when i saw her and told the manager i would choose her.
what happened in the next 90 minutes was properly the most amazing sex i ever had. she came up to me and starting teasing me with soft kisses on my neck and chest, then i started sliding up her stockinged leg and was touching her up. she slowly kissed her way down my chest, pull off my shorts, got down on her knees and starting to give me bbbj. what was amazing was that it was like we had that chemistry straight away and it was like quickie sex. she blew me for about 10 minutes and at no time did she use her hands. there was a big mirror in the room and i stood there watching her blowing me off. as i was nearing to coming, i held her head and starting thursting, she carried on even harder and i shot every drop i had in me which i saved up for one week. she continue to suck and lick and wouldn't let go for another couple of minutes. i then told her i couldn't take it anymore and we both laughed as she was quietly spitted it out into a tissue.
i then told her now its my turn to pleasure her. so i picked her up and laid her down onto the bed, i ripped off her blouse and took her bra off. she had one of the softest pair of tits i've ever seen and they were just so tender to suck on. i started kissing her neck and worked my way down towards her thighs, then i pushed up her skirt and starting kissing her thighs with soft bites. she started to breathe more and more heavily and then i finally took off her panties and ate her out. she tasted so sweet as her juices started to flow. her moan got louder and louder and eventually clamped my head between her thighs really tightly as she came.
she was quite apologetic afterwards and had worried that she hurt my head. i smile at her and said "shu fu ma". she nodded and then said she was going to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] me. she then got up, told me to lie down and started giving me another bbbj. she then spun herself on top of me and we did 69. i finally couldn't take it anymore and she put a rubber on me and proceeded to squat on me. she then rode me really hard and had used her pussy muscles which had tighten up. i then got up and she got down on all fours on the bed with me going hard from behind standing up. it was magnificent as it was like being in a porn movie with the big mirror and i could see her expression as i was pumping away from behind. after a few minutes i came really hard for the second time and collapsed on top of her.
we were both covered in sweat then. she then used the sweat and we started to slide off each other in a really erotic way with both of us laying side by side on the bed. we did this for a few minutes and we 69 each other one more time with me coming in her mouth again.
i think she wanted to go the fourth time but i told her i couldn't take it anymore. we then just snuggled up, hugging each other and started making chit chat. i commented on how beautiful she looked and what a perfect body she had, we then talked about food, music and things like that for a few minutes. she then wanted to give me her cell phone number. but because there was no paper in the room, she wrote it on my palm. it was quite funny as i told her i will have to hold my hand up when i shower and make sure i don't wash the ink off! she ask me to call or text her next time before i come to shanghai so she can meet me in the hotel directly.
we then held each other and kissed deeply before she escorted me out into the corridor. i waved at her and she some kisses at me and asked me to call her. i then took my shower feeling totally knackered. i held my hand up to make sure i kept her cell phone number intact. as soon as i got back to the locker i put her number into my address book.
the manager asked me how it was and i gave him 2 thumbs up. i then paid rmb 698 at the reception. as i got out of the lift at the lobby and walked out into a cold evening in shanghai, i had the biggest grin on my face and just a most amazing session. i already text her and can't wait to go back there next month!
therefore the morale of the story is: it does help when you can speak mandarin!
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[QUOTE=phillyhk]I went to Royal Silver Spring Sauna which is on the 4th floor of Hensheng Peninsula Hotel. It is an old joint and about 10 minutes walk away from the Bund and Nanjing Lu.
Therefore the morale of the story is: it does help when you can speak Mandarin!
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You forgot to mention the girl's number. Of course, most reader will want to try her out! Don't be shy, share her with us.
[QUOTE=Beijing Fox]Spontaneously I would reccommend Bangkok, but at second thought, I suggest Shanghai, because on tongren Lu you can find Chinese, Philippina and sometimes Thai girls. So you can sample all three at one place.[/QUOTE]Tong ren road is not a great place to meet Thai girls. In fact, it's a highly unreliable place to meet Thai girls. There are some Filipinas (of varying quality), occasionally some Viets, but rarely Thais. It's also a well known rip off street and the bars there are certain to scam you, so there's really only two bars to go to for the passer-through just looking for P4P (Judy's and Manhattan). These bars are ok, but nothing exceptional.
For this kind of goal, Hong Kong (Wan Chai area) hands down beats Shanghai. There are hundreds of these girls, plus Chinese, plus several other nationalities, and prices are about the same. Hong Kong is also far easier to get to (and into) than Shanghai/China, and way easier to stay in since people are civilized and speak English (two things not available in China). It also has the huge advantage of being near Macau, with its oodles of P4P variety with super hot girls.
All this said, Bangkok remains my favorite travel spot, Hong Kong my favorite place for a variety of girls (and if you include 141 then also cheap and hot girls), Macau for the best looking girls and saunas (though Hong Kong compares), and Shanghai for nightlife with local Chinese and expats in a thrilling and dynamic environment (which is off topic) and for KTVs (though Changping kicks Shanghai's ass in that area).
Bonzo1,
Thanks for the advice, but I think the decision has been made: Bangkok. While I appreciate Chinese women, their looks and attitude, all the prices I've seen, coupled with the value of the local currency against the US$, made Shanghi/China a long-shot to begin with. Not a lot has been added to make me change my mind, so I guess the more interesting diversions of Chinese sexual society will remain a subject of speculation.
applepolish,
i have been to the huai hai site, (called golden bell plaza i believe), but was not aware that there was bj available. i had read all the previous reports on the site, and thought that there was only massage, and of course, a good naked hj at the end. and that was the case when i visited.
i agree that its expensive, but the girls are first rate.
was this just one girl with the bj, or did this happen every time you visited? i am curious if i missed out on something when i was last there.
[quote=applepolish]all,
whenever there is a trip to shanghai it always perks me up (pun intended). i was here a few months back in january and a few of you had provided me some inputs, many thanks for it. i spent a couple of days in shanghai and then headed out to beijing (wanted to see the great wall it was quite and experience especially at.14 c).
anyways to the real experiences, i visited due to paucity of time only a couple of spas, sarcosa and the one i always go to in huai hai rd. sarcosa was a little tricky to reach although directions of the site were useful. went straight for the lineup after a quick shower and ignored all and as recommended by many asked for #503. the lady on the counter read my number (i know nothing of mandarin) and nodded her head. off to a room, and a lady peeped in, the exalted #503, must say, she is pretty and has a good rack, petite and bubbly. she was enthusiastic, very gfe, great bj technique, two shots (both in the mouth), overall a very nice experience, and i would rate her 7/10 any day, however it was bit of a let down (i will explain in detail why) against all that i had read.
for people who don't quite care about fs, and enjoy a bj just as bit or even more, i would still suggest you give this place on huai hai lu a look. this place is on the 9th floor on the same building as a ktv. the building is opposite times square on huai hain road.
it's expensive i spent rmb 892 last time i was there but wow what a girl. the girl was easily 9/10 among models. could easily be someone on the cover of a magazine. her figure of just right. i got 90 minutes of massage, with superb bj technique and i came 3 time during the session and she was always eager to please. the girls there are a more sophisticated, the decor is decent although i won't call it opulent, the service is warm.
it maybe a personal choice, but what the heck i thought i would write it down for people who maybe interested.
further i am coming over again in april, and i would like to try something other than the spas. it's becoming a bit unidimensional for me. so i have listed out a few independent escorts whom i shall be trying, and will also try the tonghren lu bars, and incall massage facilities. if you all have any thoughts and suggestions of anything interesting that i can tryout, please share, would be eager to hear.
thanks,
apple[/quote]
As the local entertainment guide I feel I need to put in my 2 cents.
SH compared to Thailand or the PI is a completley different scene.
First, for most people it is hard to navigate without Chinese. If you have been around China for awhile then it is much easier. Most newbies to the scene find it intimidating the min they get into a taxi at the pudong airport and find that without a hotel map pre-printed from the hotels website or the address in English your not going to get very far.
In Thailand or the PI English is almost every where to some degree. In SH good luck finding anyone who speaks English unless your are where the expats are or at a expat food or beverage establishment.
If you just want to get laid as much as possible, after reading what the posts have written, you will be fine as many posters give the addresses and locations in a very detailed manner. As for cheap sex, in SH there are places where you can get over night for the price of a sauna and there are even cheaper establishments I don't reccomend if you are faint of heart. If you go to Wuzhong road starting around the corner of Guilin Road for example there are shops with girls in evening gowns on both sides of the street for about two blocks. Here you can get a local hand job for 100 without and 200 with oil. Up the street if you see a big 3 on the left side of the street is one of the better soapy lands call Ji Yuan 3. Not cheap 790 I think it was if you get a membership card but well worth it. Again red rope is only a stone throw away at 500 Wuzhong road for 580 rmb all day long. If you go all the way to wuzhong road and hang zhong road and hang a right you get to the barbershop village which is still kicking. Quickie is 150 RMB-300RMB depending where you go and you level of Chinese but don't expect great rooms but you will get young fresher pussy. You can also get a room at the hotel on the corner of wuzhong and hangzhong and take a girl back.
If none of this matches your likes there are a wide range of KTV where you can get girls for a couple thousand up to five thousand depending on the KTV. The most expensive one in town is bing feng nian dai which can set a couple of guys back 10k a night for nothing but drinks with girl company or you can go to Di Hao or Jin Ka where you can get a room, bottle of chivas, fruit platter and a girl each with lap dance and you can feel the girls up all night for two setting you back roughly 3k.
If language is a big problem for you, get a copy of the SH daily at your hotel and call one of the numbers for the escorts or after 11 PM show up at Tong Ren road and take a Chinese, PI, Viet, or Thai back to your hotel. Note to people who don't know better, there are a number of hot post-op lady boys around be careful. In most cases if they are prettier than they should look, stay away.
Finally, if your looking for a red light district where you can just get out of a cab ignore SH. Shanghai is the Indiana Jones tour where you need to get out a pair of comfortable shoes, get a 30 pack of western condoms, and hunt for your prey.
PS: For freebies there are many bars that cater to students that are very reasonable. Lots of luck at Bon Bon on Hengshan road and Baby Face locations.
[QUOTE=Sixty Cent]Hint for the ones interested
My beauty ex #511 from sacrosa (read old reports) now works in a new place:
#230, GuangLing Number 4 road
398rmb for 1h30 of pure pleasure. I only my babe who is now #65 in this place... but I so many other cute babes...
best place as far as money for quality
If you go, please post and tell me what you think!!
Tell my babe that it is her "boyfriend" who gave the address[/QUOTE]Hi Sixty Cent,
I've been there yesterday. And to summarize: it was horrible. I did not know that there is no line up (my plan was to chose no. 65 if she's there), they presented to me a really ugly one which I refused. I then told them that I want no. 65 (I just came from my Chinese lesson so at least this I was able to express) and they told me to wait. After 20 min a girl appeared which was ok but not hot. I decided to check it out. And was very disappointed. After a short BJ (3min) she put the condom and laid down spreading her legs. I quickly finished as I wanted to get away as soon as possible. I am sure it was not "your" no. 65.
I learned that I will never again accept a place without line up as I would never have chosen this girl. And it also shows that the service very much differs in one place depending on the girl.
[QUOTE=Sixty Cent]Hint for the ones interested
My beauty ex #511 from sacrosa (read old reports) now works in a new place:
#230, GuangLing Number 4 road
398rmb for 1h30 of pure pleasure. I only my babe who is now #65 in this place... but I so many other cute babes...
best place as far as money for quality
If you go, please post and tell me what you think!!
Tell my babe that it is her "boyfriend" who gave the address[/QUOTE]Hi Sixty Cent,
I've been there yesterday. And to summarize: it was horrible. I did not know that there is no line up (my plan was to chose no. 65 if she's there), they presented to me a really ugly one which I refused. I then told them that I want no. 65 (I just came from my Chinese lesson so at least this I was able to express) and they told me to wait. After 20 min a girl appeared which was ok but not hot. I decided to check it out. And was very disappointed. After a short BJ (3min) she put the condom and laid down spreading her legs. I quickly finished as I wanted to get away as soon as possible. I am sure it was not "your" no. 65.
I learned that I will never again accept a place without line up as I would never have chosen this girl. And it also shows that the service very much differs in one place depending on the girl.
are you talking about 都市风情 (du shi feng qin)?
[quote=applepolish]all,
whenever there is a trip to shanghai it always perks me up (pun intended). i was here a few months back in january and a few of you had provided me some inputs, many thanks for it. i spent a couple of days in shanghai and then headed out to beijing (wanted to see the great wall it was quite and experience especially at.14 c).
anyways to the real experiences, i visited due to paucity of time only a couple of spas, sarcosa and the one i always go to in huai hai rd. sarcosa was a little tricky to reach although directions of the site were useful. went straight for the lineup after a quick shower and ignored all and as recommended by many asked for #503. the lady on the counter read my number (i know nothing of mandarin) and nodded her head. off to a room, and a lady peeped in, the exalted #503, must say, she is pretty and has a good rack, petite and bubbly. she was enthusiastic, very gfe, great bj technique, two shots (both in the mouth), overall a very nice experience, and i would rate her 7/10 any day, however it was bit of a let down (i will explain in detail why) against all that i had read.
for people who don't quite care about fs, and enjoy a bj just as bit or even more, i would still suggest you give this place on huai hai lu a look. this place is on the 9th floor on the same building as a ktv. the building is opposite times square on huai hain road.
it's expensive i spent rmb 892 last time i was there but wow what a girl. the girl was easily 9/10 among models. could easily be someone on the cover of a magazine. her figure of just right. i got 90 minutes of massage, with superb bj technique and i came 3 time during the session and she was always eager to please. the girls there are a more sophisticated, the decor is decent although i won't call it opulent, the service is warm.
it maybe a personal choice, but what the heck i thought i would write it down for people who maybe interested.
further i am coming over again in april, and i would like to try something other than the spas. it's becoming a bit unidimensional for me. so i have listed out a few independent escorts whom i shall be trying, and will also try the tonghren lu bars, and incall massage facilities. if you all have any thoughts and suggestions of anything interesting that i can tryout, please share, would be eager to hear.
thanks,
apple[/quote]
I have been there a number of times over the last couple of years and have always got BJ and with various girls.
[QUOTE=China Obsess]ApplePolish,
I have been to the Huai Hai site, (called Golden Bell Plaza I believe), but was not aware that there was BJ available. I had read all the previous reports on the site, and thought that there was only massage, and of course, a good naked HJ at the end. And that was the case when I visited.
I agree that its expensive, but the girls are first rate.
Was this just one girl with the BJ, or did this happen every time you visited? I am curious if I missed out on something when I was last there.[/QUOTE]
Can someone tell me what 500 Wuzhong road is? A whole street or a spa?
[QUOTE=Dragon D]Howard Johnson All suites on Yan An West road is a good choice. 580 weekend price but if you call ctrip and book you can get the room for 480 then upgrade at the hotel for their special free breakfast and free internet for a hundred and change. Nice suites and very girl friendly.
Also been to 500 Wuzhong road and the girls are still hot and service is very good. Have a card listing all the activities they must do and also have lots of uniforms. Not soapland though but for the price not bad. Also try the foot massage and kidney massage. Tall skinny girl give the best balls and shaft hand job with baby oil for only a hundred and change extra.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Shamuc]Hi Sixty Cent,
I've been there yesterday. And to summarize: it was horrible. I did not know that there is no line up (my plan was to chose no. 65 if she's there), they presented to me a really ugly one which I refused. I then told them that I want no. 65 (I just came from my Chinese lesson so at least this I was able to express) and they told me to wait. After 20 min a girl appeared which was ok but not hot. I decided to check it out. And was very disappointed. After a short BJ (3min) she put the condom and laid down spreading her legs. I quickly finished as I wanted to get away as soon as possible. I am sure it was not "your" no. 65.
I learned that I will never again accept a place without line up as I would never have chosen this girl. And it also shows that the service very much differs in one place depending on the girl.[/QUOTE]Sorry man but I guess they fooled you. Moreover yesterday she was on the rag so it could not be her!
So I will be in Shanghai next week, and need some more advice and questions.
Will stay at shanghai hotel and try rope massage.
Printed out the business card of 999 to give to taxi driver.
Are multiple pops the norm at these 2 establishments?
Where can I go near my hotel to get cheaper service?
Any other places close to the shanghai hotel I should check out?
[QUOTE=Castlerae]Bonzo1,
Thanks for the advice, but I think the decision has been made: Bangkok. While I appreciate Chinese women, their looks and attitude, all the prices I've seen, coupled with the value of the local currency against the US$, made Shanghi/China a long-shot to begin with. Not a lot has been added to make me change my mind, so I guess the more interesting diversions of Chinese sexual society will remain a subject of speculation.[/QUOTE]
Chinese girls' attitudes are generally among the worst in all of Asia. While there are many pretty girls, they are typically uber-greedy, shallow, speak little English, and many dead fishes. There are plenty of exceptions, and YMMV, but as a generalization this is pretty widely accepted.
On the other hand, China is great for freebies - among the best. And nightlife is a lot of fun here (not just mongering, I mean). For people who can endure, or actually enjoy, BBS's, they provide very cheap HJ's or BJ's. Not my bag - they are dirty and disgusting, IMHO, but I suppose in my earlier years I might have loved them nonetheless.
China is also great for KTV's and saunas.
These things said, I 100% concur in Dragon D's comments. China is not a place where you can just get into a taxi and explore around the city. You have to have a plan, and if you don't speak Chinese or not with someone who does you are hugely limited. It's best to have friends and/or contacts here to truly enjoy what the place has to offer.
Don't count Philippines out...they speak great English there and it's super cheap.
Again, for variety nothing beats Hong Kong, in my view. But it's not nearly as cheap as Thailand or Philippines.
Btw, if you go to Thailand, consider Pattaya. Read the forum and you'll see why. Cheap and super abundant P4P.
Cheers
-B-
[QUOTE=Castlerae]Bonzo1,
Thanks for the advice, but I think the decision has been made: Bangkok. While I appreciate Chinese women, their looks and attitude, all the prices I've seen, coupled with the value of the local currency against the US$, made Shanghi/China a long-shot to begin with. Not a lot has been added to make me change my mind, so I guess the more interesting diversions of Chinese sexual society will remain a subject of speculation.[/QUOTE]
I live in China but I would without a doubt recommend Hong Kong as your main center of action. Air fares should be reasonably good and the city is really nice. And they speak english here.
Wan Chai will be your paradise, Filipina, Indonesia, VietNam, Chinese and Thai all easily available. It will be cheaper, 500HKD should get you an all nighter, don't pay more than 700HKD. Even free is very possible. Stick to the bars called Fenwicks, Laguna, New Makati, and Neptunes II. In Tsim Sha Tsui there are some bars too, try Sticky Fingers. There are some street girls. 141 can be a nice experience and at least it is interesting to walk around the apartments.
Do your electronics shopping, cameras and phones in Wanchai Computer Center or in Mong Kok. It will be cheaper than the surrounding countries.
Hotels in Hong KOng can be expensive, choose your travel week carefully to avoid any conventions or exhibitions.
Macau is 1hr by boat away.
You can easily visit Bangkok or Manila from here, only 2 hours away. Return tickets HKG to either of them will range from about US$100 to US$200.
I'd prefer Bangkok over Manila 9 times out of 10. Bangkok has great culture, temples, history and scenery - lots to do and see. Tourism is very organized. Manila is more of a shithole. Not the most exciting city to visit and the country is very poor, only the live music in the Philippines is better. You can get SUN, SAND, SEA and SEX in both Thailand and Philippines but Thailand is more interesting.
Beach Club in Kuala Lumpur Malaysia and the Thai Bar across the street are also fun. Flight is again in the same range US$100-200. Again a clean city with a different culture.
You may also want to try Singapore, also quite cheap from Hong Kong. I've enjoyed Orchard Towers quite a lot. The band in Ipanema is very nice but beers at S$15 are expensive. In Singapore S$150 should get an all nighter with any international girl except for Chinese who think they are worth more but are not.
Don't bother with Shanghai or anywhere else in China, nothing can compare to Hong Kong and the neighbouring lands. You could try Shenzhen, DongGuan/ChangPing but why bother??
Chinese culture is mostly gone (I think Mao destroyed it), I haven't seen much in my 8 years here. I do however like when a girl tells me she is a 'traditional Chinese girl', this means that she will fuck me that night. I really like Traditional Chinese Girls.
[QUOTE=Yellow Fever #2]I live in China but I would without a doubt recommend Hong Kong as your main center of action. Air fares should be reasonably good and the city is really nice. And they speak english here.
Wan Chai will be your paradise, Filipina, Indonesia, VietNam, Chinese and Thai all easily available. It will be cheaper, 500HKD should get you an all nighter, don't pay more than 700HKD. Even free is very possible. Stick to the bars called Fenwicks, Laguna, New Makati, and Neptunes II. In Tsim Sha Tsui there are some bars too, try Sticky Fingers. There are some street girls. 141 can be a nice experience and at least it is interesting to walk around the apartments.
.[/QUOTE]
I agree with all this, emphatically, except the part about "free is very possible". Not in those bars, at least - those are 100% WG bars.
I also never heard (besides this post) of anyone paying 500HKD (or even 700) in those bars, but times have changed since I was last there, so negotiation might be more easy. I usually paid 1000 to 1500, for reference...and in the strip clubs (read:rip off bars, but have some super hot girls with amazing performances) I have spent 6000 to 10,000 (total bill). Anyway, I don't doubt that 1000 is easily possible now, and wouldn't be surprised if cheaper (for the less pretty girls). The Chinese, Russians, and Columbians will insist on more, but for no good reason that I can see (in fact, for the latter two they'd have to pay me boatloads to even talk with them, but tastes vary).
141 is a great diversion and a great value. Only downside is there's zero thrill in it - mostly just mechanical and procedure-oriented. But definitely worth a try once, if not more.
Overall, the recommendation to go to HK and makes side trips is spot on, in my opinion. In fact, I'll likely do the same thing on my next trip. Thanks for the idea!
PS - I too love "traditional Chinese girls"...great analysis on that one :)
PPS - one thing to be aware of in HK is the abundance of Chinese or local HK'nese girls billing themselves as Taiwanese. Not that it matters, but I've met only one WG in HK that was really from Taiwan, but have had dozens tell me they were (only to not be able to understand Taiwanese, not know the national anthem, etc.). They think it increases their value somehow (those who live here know why, but those just visiting probably couldn't care less).
Just a quick report. Recommendation for a girl who can be legendary, check out #911 at 999. Lanlan is the one I mentioned from the Songshan shop. Very cute face, nice tits, exceptional attitude and oral skills. You will have a good time. Definitely in the zone of Stars (PSE or GFE).
Well, I apprecaite the extra input, but I think I'll stick with my original decision to just go to Bangkok. This boils down to a couple of factors: time and money. I'll be making the trip just one week, so I'm not going to have the time to go all over the place, no matter how tempting that might be. As for money, well, I've been tracking the value of the different currencies for a week now, and the Chinese money is consistantly running somewhere in the area of five to seven times the value of the Thai money. So even though a "LT, high-end" girl in Bangkok might charge 2500BHT, it still comes out a lot lower than most of the prices quoted for Chinese girls.
[QUOTE=Shamuc]Hi Sixty Cent,
I've been there yesterday. And to summarize: it was horrible. I did not know that there is no line up (my plan was to chose no. 65 if she's there), they presented to me a really ugly one which I refused. I then told them that I want no. 65 (I just came from my Chinese lesson so at least this I was able to express) and they told me to wait. After 20 min a girl appeared which was ok but not hot. I decided to check it out. And was very disappointed. After a short BJ (3min) she put the condom and laid down spreading her legs. I quickly finished as I wanted to get away as soon as possible. I am sure it was not "your" no. 65.
I learned that I will never again accept a place without line up as I would never have chosen this girl. And it also shows that the service very much differs in one place depending on the girl.[/QUOTE]One way to identify her is to look at her hip. She has a cute tatoo. I'll post the picture this week end, for identification of the real stuff. For sure confirmed it was not her!
Hi guys, I'm writing this on a BlackBerry currently sitting in a bar in Nana in Bangkok.
Arrived two nights ago from Shanghai (the night before that I was in Beijing). A quick count gives me at least 15 reasons why I should never go back to China. The atmosphere, the attitude, the looks, the smooth Thai style. . . . What else can you ask for? Compare this to the loud, shrill and hysterical Chinese WGs. After all, my recommendation is Bangkok.
[QUOTE=Yellow Fever #2]I live in China but I would without a doubt recommend Hong Kong as your main center of action. Air fares should be reasonably good and the city is really nice. And they speak english here.
Wan Chai will be your paradise, Filipina, Indonesia, VietNam, Chinese and Thai all easily available. It will be cheaper, 500HKD should get you an all nighter, don't pay more than 700HKD. Even free is very possible. Stick to the bars called Fenwicks, Laguna, New Makati, and Neptunes II. In Tsim Sha Tsui there are some bars too, try Sticky Fingers. There are some street girls. 141 can be a nice experience and at least it is interesting to walk around the apartments.
Do your electronics shopping, cameras and phones in Wanchai Computer Center or in Mong Kok. It will be cheaper than the surrounding countries.
Hotels in Hong KOng can be expensive, choose your travel week carefully to avoid any conventions or exhibitions.
Macau is 1hr by boat away.
You can easily visit Bangkok or Manila from here, only 2 hours away. Return tickets HKG to either of them will range from about US$100 to US$200.
I'd prefer Bangkok over Manila 9 times out of 10. Bangkok has great culture, temples, history and scenery - lots to do and see. Tourism is very organized. Manila is more of a shithole. Not the most exciting city to visit and the country is very poor, only the live music in the Philippines is better. You can get SUN, SAND, SEA and SEX in both Thailand and Philippines but Thailand is more interesting.
Beach Club in Kuala Lumpur Malaysia and the Thai Bar across the street are also fun. Flight is again in the same range US$100-200. Again a clean city with a different culture.
You may also want to try Singapore, also quite cheap from Hong Kong. I've enjoyed Orchard Towers quite a lot. The band in Ipanema is very nice but beers at S$15 are expensive. In Singapore S$150 should get an all nighter with any international girl except for Chinese who think they are worth more but are not.
Don't bother with Shanghai or anywhere else in China, nothing can compare to Hong Kong and the neighbouring lands. You could try Shenzhen, DongGuan/ChangPing but why bother??
Chinese culture is mostly gone (I think Mao destroyed it), I haven't seen much in my 8 years here. I do however like when a girl tells me she is a 'traditional Chinese girl', this means that she will fuck me that night. I really like Traditional Chinese Girls.[/QUOTE]
A picture is worth a thousand words.
front and back identification
[QUOTE=VeryInterest]Can someone tell me what 500 Wuzhong road is? A whole street or a spa? [/QUOTE]500 Wuzhong Rd is non-soapy massage joint with FS for 580rmb. Been many times and always excellent.
Wuzhong Rd (LU) is a famous road in Shanghai which runs parallel to, and is between, the Yan An Rd and Caobao Rd. It is on any Tourist Map. No 500 is on rh side coming out of Shanghai. Turn in and go behind the "Yellow" car mart shop. There is a hotel entrance round back. Go in. Straight to elevator to 4th floor.come out of elevator and turn right into Spa. No Chinese is needed. They know why you are there!
[QUOTE=Castlerae]Well, I apprecaite the extra input, but I think I'll stick with my original decision to just go to Bangkok. This boils down to a couple of factors: time and money. I'll be making the trip just one week, so I'm not going to have the time to go all over the place, no matter how tempting that might be. As for money, well, I've been tracking the value of the different currencies for a week now, and the Chinese money is consistantly running somewhere in the area of five to seven times the value of the Thai money. So even though a "LT, high-end" girl in Bangkok might charge 2500BHT, it still comes out a lot lower than most of the prices quoted for Chinese girls.[/QUOTE]
Actually the currency difference is about 5.4 times, give or take a few tenths from day to day.
Yes, I believe Thai girls are both better quality and less $$. Some people like variety, and for that nothing beats HK, but for the most bang for the buck (pardon the pun) Bangkok, or perhaps even better, Pattaya, are the best places on earth.
[QUOTE=Yellow Fever #2]I live in China but I would without a doubt recommend Hong Kong as your main center of action. Air fares should be reasonably good and the city is really nice. And they speak english here.[/QUOTE]Yellow Fever,
Having been to the various places you mention in your report, i think I'd fully agree, with the additional remark that life in hongkong is a bit more expensive than in the other places you mention.
On March 27, I wanted to go to World Plaza once again. But when I arrived, the guys told me that the place was closed and would open only next day again. Since it was raining, there was no chance to get a taxi to one of my other favorites. So, I decided to go to Sacrosa again, which is in walking distance - despite some earlier rather mixed experience.
This time, I had a line up of about 8 or 9 girls. They were not very pretty, but ok. I chose a rather short one who had a relatively cute look. It was just a gut feeling that drove me. She is not particularly pretty, but not ugly either. She has a good body with rather bit rack. It is stuffed a bit, but from underneath, so when you touch you almost don't feel it. This way, it's ok, even for me who hate silicon.
In the room, she gave me then an excellent service. At the beginning, I was concerned, since she did not immediately take off her clothes. But with each round, she took off more - like in a strip poker.
She allowed me to touch and lick everywhere. No complaints about size, not complaints about ticklish, just the way I like it. She gave me an excellent and very long BBBJ. Then I DATY'd her, which she definitely enjoyed and even became pretty wet. At the end, she also decided that the gliding cream was not necessary anymore, particularly since she came already during DATY.
I did then my deed in various positions: mish, doggy, cowgirl, and mish again, until I dumped my load. We relaxed then together on the bed, and it was really a good and enjoyable experience.
My score for her:
Face 6
Body 7
Attitude 9
Service 9
And her number: 309
Wonderer - wish you good luck and lots of happiness with her. But treat her well, she is a nice girl!
Delighted to be back in SH from UK on 15th. I was there in September (my report 3965) and had a fabulous time. This trip gives me 6 days/nights in SH punctuated by overnighters in Zhengzhou, Huangyan & Wenzhou.
Couple of questions - any suggestions for those nights away from SH?
I've continued to RTFF since September and nothing much seems to have changed. Of course I'll do the staples - Sarcrosa, B2,999 but any new must do's?
In London there is a thriving party scene where for c£130 one participates in a sex orgy for upto 4 hours - 3- 5 girls upto 12 guys all naked and f**king in public, hell that's why we're here so no problemo. Anything like this in SH & forget KTV's?
May not see my Vitamin V supplier before departure so any info on supplying pharmacies in SH would be appreciated.
Of course I'll submit a full report again after the trip, looking forward to input from fellow mongers.
Jintai road, what can I say?
A friend came into town and wanted a tour. I remembered about 3 months back and another time even further back when I went to Jintai Road and saw the hottest smoking hot bunch of BBS girls I have ever had the pleasure of picking between. I just hadn't been there since because it is totally out of the way for me. I wanted to show him the best, so I took him there, and man did I regret it. After making 2 laps before settling on a shop that actually had 2 girls good enough for us both to take one, we walked in and the mama-san demanded 300. I said, "okay, 300 for two." She said "no" and didn't even counter-offer. I walked out telling her to burn in hell. It was obvious to me if she was out of the shop the girls themselves would have accepted the normal price.
Reluctantly after another lap we agree to try a more eager looking shop. They also asked for 300, but quickly agreed to 200 each if we both bang a girl. I would have refused that if we were anywhere in Puxi, as we could hop in a cab to another BBS district, but in PuDong there is really nothing worth a shit in the area to go to as a back-up plan. The service was shit and the girl I had actually I had to argue with her just to switch positions. She wanted 50 more for a BJ. (I know to mention this early in the bargaining, but I don't care enough to be bothered.) I guess my friend's chick was okay. If you go out there definitely only go with chicks frantically waving you in the shop.
By the way, if you want 100 kuai full service in that area with some really slutty chicks, some willing to bareback, then ride a taxi south from the JinQiao Lu station (closest station to Jintai road) SOUTH on JinQiao road past the bridge about until the taxi hits 12 on the meter. Last time I found a nice chick there with awesome service, totally relaxed because of few customers. Unfortunately tonight it kind of sucked and we couldn't find a shop with two good ones, one for each of us. (If i was alone I definitely would have gone for superior service for only 100.)
[QUOTE=Sixty Cent]Sorry man but I guess they fooled you. Moreover yesterday she was on the rag so it could not be her![/QUOTE]I went to the place on Guanglisi because of your review that this was the place with the best value for my money, but I think they have changed their policy somewhat. You get 45 min for 388, and you don't get to see a line-up. I asked to see some girls, and they brought me two. Neither of them looked me in the eyes, though both very fairly pretty 7+. My girl had been in Shanghai for a little more than one month, and she wasn't very experienced. It was okay at best and she wouldn't let me kiss her. No GFE at all, but she gave pretty good head. I thought I was in for several pops, so I came in her mouth after less than ten minutes. That was obviously it for this girl, and she was not willing to really do anything else (though I'm not overly pushy, but I felt kinda down anyway because she wasn't into it). The rest of the time she lay next to me and we small-talked somewhat, but my Chinese doesn't let me say too much.
I told her that a friend (this would be you) told me that I got 90 min for 388. She told me 45 min. I also asked the guys in the dressing room and they told me the same. And the Mamasans also told me the same, and said they didn't try to fool me.
I very much wish that you would ask your girlfriend about the actual rules here, so we don't get ripped of for nothing. A good massage parlor would have given me the same finish, only that I would get a good massage first, for almost half the price.
[QUOTE=Greenandblue]I went to the place on Guanglisi because of your review that this was the place with the best value for my money, but I think they have changed their policy somewhat. You get 45 min for 388, and you don't get to see a line-up. I asked to see some girls, and they brought me two. Neither of them looked me in the eyes, though both very fairly pretty 7+. My girl had been in Shanghai for a little more than one month, and she wasn't very experienced. It was okay at best and she wouldn't let me kiss her. No GFE at all, but she gave pretty good head. I thought I was in for several pops, so I came in her mouth after less than ten minutes. That was obviously it for this girl, and she was not willing to really do anything else (though I'm not overly pushy, but I felt kinda down anyway because she wasn't into it). The rest of the time she lay next to me and we small-talked somewhat, but my Chinese doesn't let me say too much.
I told her that a friend (this would be you) told me that I got 90 min for 388. She told me 45 min. I also asked the guys in the dressing room and they told me the same. And the Mamasans also told me the same, and said they didn't try to fool me.
I very much wish that you would ask your girlfriend about the actual rules here, so we don't get ripped of for nothing. A good massage parlor would have given me the same finish, only that I would get a good massage first, for almost half the price.[/QUOTE]They must have changed the rules for "loawai".
My GF said they are not fair (with the way they gave customers to girls), she has enough and she will probably leave them sometime soon.
[QUOTE=Castlerae]I've read much of the posting here and in some of the other areas covering SE Asia, and to someone looking for some good p4p action, there is much to recommend many destinations. I hope to make a trip later this year, and I've more or less thinned down the places I'd like to go to three:
Bangkok
Manila
Shanghi
From everything I've read, Manila and Bangkok seem to give the best value-for-money, as the prices for even the best girls is fairly low, either ST or LT. On the flip side, the cost of getting to either of those two places is close to double the cost of getting to Shanghi.
Why should I go to Shanghi and not either of the other two places?
Any regulars want to step forward to make the case for your city? I'm open to any arguement, reasonable intelligently phrased, so how about it?[/QUOTE]
I can recommend Angeles City, Philippines
Direct flights to the local airport Clark DMIA are serviced by some budget carriers
Tiger Air via Singapore
Air Asia via Kuala Lumpur
Cebu Pacific via Hong Kong / Bangkok
Or if you are in Manila you could take a cab there (about 2 hours P1500 away). There is also a bus service for much less.
Compared with Manila, the hotels are cheaper, the girls are cheaper and they are concentrated within a small area.
Like Manila, English is widely spoken, usually better than Thailand/China, chances of you connecting with the girl mentally is therefore higher and that leads to better GFE, IMO.
Start reading the Angeles City threads, feel free to PM me if you need more info, I don't want you to overpay and spoil the place.
bonzo,
yeah, i know, the exchage rate runs around a bit. i'm not 'on the spot', so i don't know what the actual in-person exchange rates are (which often vary wildly from the "offical" exchage rate), but all the conversion calculators i've hit recently are pretty consistent. stiil, anyway you slice it, the bht is a lot cheaper against the us$ than the rmb is, so think i'll stick with bangkok.
poopbunny,
i gave some thought to angels city, as well as manila, but the cost to get there from the us (nearest city offering international flights is chicago) is several hundred more no matter which sites i hit for prices. as the currencies are roughly at the same level versus the us$, a few hundred extra in the pocket is more than a few extra 'shots on goal', and that is a strong incentive for bkk.
[QUOTE=Sixty Cent]They must have changed the rules for "loawai". My GF said they are not fair (with the way they gave customers to girls), she has enough and she will probably leave them sometime soon.[/QUOTE]I can confirm for me (laowai) it was 50 minutes, which makes it a rushed 2 pops. I live closer to Sacrosa and WP, and that place is too rushed for me to enjoy #65 properly, so I haven't been back. #65 is a sweetie though (I have her #), and I'll see her again under better conditions. 60 cents, please let us know if and when she moves.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Davho]Delighted to be back in SH from UK on 15th. I was there in September (my report 3965) and had a fabulous time. This trip gives me 6 days/nights in SH punctuated by overnighters in Zhengzhou, Huangyan & Wenzhou.
Couple of questions - any suggestions for those nights away from SH?
I've continued to RTFF since September and nothing much seems to have changed. Of course I'll do the staples - Sarcrosa, B2,999 but any new must do's?
In London there is a thriving party scene where for c£130 one participates in a sex orgy for upto 4 hours - 3- 5 girls upto 12 guys all naked and f**king in public, hell that's why we're here so no problemo. Anything like this in SH & forget KTV's?
May not see my Vitamin V supplier before departure so any info on supplying pharmacies in SH would be appreciated.
Of course I'll submit a full report again after the trip, looking forward to input from fellow mongers.[/QUOTE]
Hey Davho
You in town for GP?
Pedro 917
Hi guys, I'm a bit confused now. Is Guanlisi and Wuzhong 500 the same place? Do they have a #65 at both places?
I would appreciate a clarification as I intend to go to Wuzhong 500 on Monday evening.Thank you for your assistance in this matter.
[QUOTE=Apple Court]I can confirm for me (laowai) it was 50 minutes, which makes it a rushed 2 pops. I live closer to Sacrosa and WP, and that place is too rushed for me to enjoy #65 properly, so I haven't been back. #65 is a sweetie though (I have her #), and I'll see her again under better conditions. 60 cents, please let us know if and when she moves.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
[quote=castlerae]
poopbunny,
i gave some thought to angels city, as well as manila, but the cost to get there from the us (nearest city offering international flights is chicago) is several hundred more no matter which sites i hit for prices. as the currencies are roughly at the same level versus the us$, a few hundred extra in the pocket is more than a few extra 'shots on goal', and that is a strong incentive for bkk.[/quote]
same for me. from home, i normally book only to the nearest major city like singapore/hk/kul. i then book on a separate itinerary by myself using the budget carrier website to take me to my "home away from home". on average this cost me about an extra us$80 each way but it more than pays itself back for the cheaper overall "costs of living" (inc girls) and better gfe. for me, it would be a waste to fly all the way to the far east and not do that additional leg. i used to go to thailand too, until i discovered pi.
[quote=poopbunny] i normally book only to the nearest major city like singapore/hk/kul............. i then book on a separate itinerary by myself using the budget carrier website to take me to my "home away from home". on average this cost me about an extra us$80 ............. used to go to thailand too, until i discovered pi.[/quote]fyi guys - tiger airways are currently offering 8 cent flight - yes 8 cents - plus taxes - from sing to manila (clark) - then a 10 minute ride into angeles city - fucking cheap
[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]FYI guys - Tiger Airways are currently offering 8 cent flight - yes 8 cents - plus taxes - from Sing to Manila (Clark) - then a 10 minute ride into Angeles City - FUCKING CHEAP[/QUOTE]Bad Boy Billy,
The 8 cents flight is a BS, they only have 1-2 seat at that price you need to book 6 month ahead to get this if you are lucky, I think 200 sgd is the regular cost included tax for round trip, too bad that they discontinue the clark to Macau flight.
Fast Eddie 48
Could someone tell me what "red rope" means?
I just got back into town after trying to find some stuff some bros had requested.
Here's what I have found:
Cialis (Tadalafil) 50mg Tablets – 250 per bottle of ten
Levitra (Vardenafil) 600mg tablets – 300 per bottle of ten
I still have a few bottles of the stuff I have used most often - “Cialis” (Sildenafil – Viagra active ingredient) 35 mg capsules - 250RMB per bottle of ten.
Although the silver box and aluminum vial of the sildenafil capsules say Cialis, this is actually 'generic Viagra.' It is made from sildenafil citrate, the same as the prescription brand Viagra in the USA.) This is what I have used most, and while the bottle promises 72 hours of activity, I usually get about 48.
REAL Viagra and Cialis sell in pharmacies for around 100RMB per tablet, so these are twice as much 'bang' for less than half the cost.
Granted, these particular 'generics' are not FDA approved, but other expats in the area have used them quite a bit. Several of our brothers on here have used them, and I personally have used these as well, with happy results. Still, keep in mind the same precautions you would observe with any supplement, and as with anything, YMMV.
I've noticed it can also be embarrassing to visit one of these stores as an expat – you stand out, and the ever-helpful a-yis are urgently suggesting all manner of items – each of which they will assure you is the greatest thing ever made. Plus, if you do not speak much Chinese you are not certain what you will get.
I can deliver any of these to you at any metro stop at your convenience. PM me.
[QUOTE=Beijing Fox]Hi guys, I'm a bit confused now. Is Guanlisi and Wuzhong 500 the same place? Do they have a #65 at both places?
I would appreciate a clarification as I intend to go to Wuzhong 500 on Monday evening.Thank you for your assistance in this matter.[/QUOTE]Don't think so. 500 Wuzhong Lu is well worth a visit anyway. My little man loves it there, always leaves empty and exhausted albeit deflated!
[QUOTE=Leche]Could someone tell me what "red rope" means?[/QUOTE]Leche
Can you stop begging and just read the thread.
Thanks for the recommendations.
Having enjoyed the delights of the Shanghai Hotel, I thought that I'd try something different and 999 seemed to keep coming up on everyones list.
Found the place easily enough. One wrong turn when I got on the wrong train a #3 instead of #4.
Welcomed in and taken to locker room then shower, then change into PJ's. All been pretty well detailed. It was Sunday afternoon, and the place was humming. Lots of punters and lots of girls. Up to the fish bowl, and to be honest the choice was too much for my little eyes to comprehend. I just wanted to dive right in head first into that room. Selected #923, who stood out from the crowd with a nice big rack. She seemed nice to start with.
Waited for the room, it was still being cleaned when we arrived, that was my first put off. The cleaner then left us alone. Well I have to say that the whole experience felt like a manufacturing process. Disrobe, scrub down, soapy massage, shower, lie on bed, cat bath, tit massage, flip, russian, toe f$#K (? that was bizzare), BBBJ, cover on and hump, shoot, clean and go.
Very mechanical as if each stage in the process was only allotted a certain time. I couldn't wait to get out of there, and will not be returning. As I say YMMV.
Damage Y680 for 1 hour.
Ah well, at least I can cross it off my list.
WM
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[QUOTE=Davho]
May not see my Vitamin V supplier before departure so any info on supplying pharmacies in SH would be appreciated..[/QUOTE]
More and more SH pharmacies are requiring Rx for "V" now days. So far no RX needed for "C" however.
Maybe some other Bros can steer you to a pharmacy that does not require Rx for "V". Only one I know is on Baihui Road near Biyun Road in Jinqiao Pudong.
ES
[QUOTE=Leche]Could someone tell me what "red rope" means?[/QUOTE]It means this.
ES
Eaglestar,
I'm intrigued to know, how you made these photos.
Did you bring a tripod, a seond girl, or a photographer with you?
[QUOTE=Eaglestar]It means this.
ES[/QUOTE]
Wow!
Now I understand the attraction!
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Beijing Fox]Eaglestar,.............I'm intrigued to know, how you made these photos............[/QUOTE]Billy is intrigued to know too Eaglestar.
Although I must add. What a magnificent athletic bdy you. Body of a godd I think.
my bet is that eaglestar paid another girl to do the shots. the timing is too good for random shooting from a tripod, so someone had to know when to hit the button (nice shots, btw, and bet you had a nice "shot" from the looks of the woman on the rope! )
poopbunny,
yeah, it's an idea, but the flip side is that it's one more connection to have to sweat, one more company to have to hassle with on the credit card bill and one more thing that can go wrong (as in another budget carrier that folds with zero warning). think i'll stick with the plan as it now stands. would love to hve a month or two, plus a significantly deeper pocket of $$$ to draw on, would like to tour se asia: phillipines, china, thailand, cambodia. the story of my life, though: sooooo much pussy, so little money!
[QUOTE=Eaglestar]More and more SH pharmacies are requiring Rx for "V" now days. So far no RX needed for "C" however.
Maybe some other Bros can steer you to a pharmacy that does not require Rx for "V". Only one I know is on Baihui Road near Biyun Road in Jinqiao Pudong.
ES[/QUOTE]ES is correct about the Pharmact on Baihua Lu. It's in the strip of buildings that includes a small video store, pet foor store, Biyuntang Massage joint (not recommended). The pharmacist (guy) speaks English. He only has the 5 'V' per box size. No singles. However, he does have 20mg 'L' in singles for 100RMB.
>>In Puxi, go to Portman Ritz Carlton. Find Starbucks there, and go to second floor by way of outside stairs (this is technically Shanghai Center). In the corner is Parkway Health, and next to it, Parkway Dental. There is a pharmacy right there. In the back of the pharmacy in the glass case (locked) they've got all you need; V, L, C. Ladies there speak English and have the keys. (By the way, the Long Bar is about 50 feet from the pharmacy.
>>In Pudong, a tougher location to find is near Shanghai East Hospital. The Hospital is immediately across form the Shanghia Stock Exchange. There is a street behind the hospital on a corner. Look for a Gree nPharmacy cross on the stroefront. Here is a link with a map down below. The red arrow on the map is about where the street with pharmacy is. This location is about 2 blocks from WP and 3 from Sacrosa. Note: you have to ask for it, as they keep it in a drawer. It's V in the 5 packs...real stuff. Ask the older ladey, the younger one(s) don't always understand. [url]http://www.seimc.com.cn/general/location.htm[/url]
Is it close to the Shanghai Hotel?
[QUOTE=Iandavid2212]500 Wuzhong Rd is non-soapy massage joint with FS for 580rmb. Been many times and always excellent.
Wuzhong Rd (LU) is a famous road in Shanghai which runs parallel to, and is between, the Yan An Rd and Caobao Rd. It is on any Tourist Map. No 500 is on rh side coming out of Shanghai. Turn in and go behind the "Yellow" car mart shop. There is a hotel entrance round back. Go in. Straight to elevator to 4th floor.come out of elevator and turn right into Spa. No Chinese is needed. They know why you are there![/QUOTE]
Hi
Well I arrive In Shanghai for the GP on 15/4 for 6 days and wish to make the most of my stay. So I have RTFF and consequently decided to stay at the Shanghai Hotel! Other must visit places appear to be Sarcosa, Heting Elite & 999.
Any other must do suggestions would be appreciated! But bearing in mind this is my first visit to Shanghai and I only speak half a dozen words of Chinese if any local monger is looking for a wingman it could be in both our interests.
On the other hand if anyone is in town and fancies meeting up PM me ASAP
Take care
Pedro917
Gentlemen,
Visiting Shanghai for a night and cannot decide which hotel to stay. Can anyone recommend a hotel that also has a bar with working girls (Freelancers).
From what I have read at the forum the Hyatt (Cloud 9) apparently has some freelancers over there. Considering staying there as it is only for a night.
Anybody have a better suggestion?
- AC
[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]Billy is intrigued to know too Eaglestar.
Although I must add.......................what a magnificent athletic bdy you ..................body of a godd I think.[/QUOTE]
BBB and BJ Fox, et al
I did not take these. Sorry, my bad...... I should have acknowledged the author but cannot recall who posted them. One of the Shanghai Bros. I will search and give proper credit as I should have in the original post.
ES
Ok BBB, your trying to jerk me a little bit huh??? :)
I did a proper search again and find the pic YOU posted in Rio.
Sorry my man, should have done the search before and acknowledged your work but that guy asked such a stupid question about the red rope that could have been found if he would just RTFF. When I read his post I remembered seeing a very recent post, did the search, found your pics in Rio and responded.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=865309&postcount=3228[/url]
Once again sorry I did not acknowledge in first post. Was not in any way trying to say it is me. Obviously stomach to flat and crank to big to me me.
ES
[QUOTE=AsianChaos]Gentlemen,
Visiting Shanghai for a night and cannot decide which hotel to stay. Can anyone recommend a hotel that also has a bar with working girls (Freelancers).
From what I have read at the forum the Hyatt (Cloud 9) apparently has some freelancers over there. Considering staying there as it is only for a night.
Anybody have a better suggestion?
- AC[/QUOTE]
That would be among the last places I'd consider staying for mongering purposes. First because it's in Pudong, and second because the very small selection of WG's that go there are going to try to kill you on the price. I'd expect quotes from 2000 to 5000, though I'd think you could haggle down to around 1500 for ST (I'm gonna take a wild guess and say 2000+ for LT). Some members here may debate this, but pointlessly - whether someone says they could pay less or not, for most people this is most likely the reality.
Anyway, I don't know too much about hotel bar WG's, but I'd suggest staying at the Hilton in Puxi. There are bars right across the street that are sure to have much more selection, Julu lu is walking distance, and Tong Ren lu is a short cab ride. All will have vastly more selection at much better prices.
I'm also heard there are WG's that hang around in the Hilton's first floor bar, but again have zero personal experience with this.
[QUOTE=AsianChaos]Gentlemen,
Visiting Shanghai for a night and cannot decide which hotel to stay. Can anyone recommend a hotel that also has a bar with working girls (Freelancers).
From what I have read at the forum the Hyatt (Cloud 9) apparently has some freelancers over there. Considering staying there as it is only for a night.
Anybody have a better suggestion?
- AC[/QUOTE]
Just reading another post, Shanghai Hotel would be a far better choice as well. Have no idea about the quality of the hotel (guessing Chinese 4 star, ie 3 star), but location is not too far from Hilton area, and inside Shanghai Hotel is one of the most reviewed saunas in this forum. I'm also guessing there'd be no issue at all with taking girls back to the hotel (which might not be the case with either of the Hyatt's).
[QUOTE=Eaglestar]Ok BBB, your trying to jerk me a little bit huh??? :)[/QUOTE]Absolutely I am jerking your chain mate................you are a legend in my eyes................just a bit of fun my friend.
BTW - I will be in Shanghai May 1 to 5 - I want to meet you[QUOTE=Eaglestar]I did a proper search again and find the pic YOU posted ...............that guy asked such a stupid question about the red rope [/QUOTE]Yes I saw his post..............did not even consider it worth responding to.
If only the newbies would put their eyes and brains into gear before their fingers start tap-tap-a-tapping on the keyboard.
All newbies - check out this first ever post in the Beijing thread that was posted only yesterday by a total newbie - [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=866548&postcount=4297[/url] - this is how it is done - GIVE info first before TAKING advice - that is how to gain creditability on the board.
Anyway - back on topic - who was the clown who asked 'what is the red rope'? See pics please.
[QUOTE=Bonzo1]That would be among the last places I'd consider staying for mongering purposes. First because it's in Pudong, and second because the very small selection of WG's that go there are going to try to kill you on the price. I'd expect quotes from 2000 to 5000, though I'd think you could haggle down to around 1500 for ST (I'm gonna take a wild guess and say 2000+ for LT). Some members here may debate this, but pointlessly - whether someone says they could pay less or not, for most people this is most likely the reality.
Anyway, I don't know too much about hotel bar WG's, but I'd suggest staying at the Hilton in Puxi. There are bars right across the street that are sure to have much more selection, Julu lu is walking distance, and Tong Ren lu is a short cab ride. All will have vastly more selection at much better prices.
I'm also heard there are WG's that hang around in the Hilton's first floor bar, but again have zero personal experience with this.[/QUOTE]
What is your take on the Shangri-La at Pudoung. The forurm states the bar at the basement (BATS) seems to have a lot of working women.
Sixty Cent: saw your photos of no. 65 and she definitively was NOT the one they presented to me!
Greenandblue: my experience was exactly like yours..not worth another try.
[QUOTE=VeryInterest]Is it close to the Shanghai Hotel? [/QUOTE]Can't believe how many questions people are asking about where 500 Wuzhong Lu is.
LAST TIME. It's at No. 500 Wuzhong Lu.. Ok. First part is the number of the establisment, second part is road name. Not to difficult surely.
It's due west of the Hilton/Shanghai Hotel area about 10 mins by cab. Everyone knows the road.
Wuzhong Lu is a famous rd in Shanghai. Actually there must be at least 20 Spa sauna's along the road and I'm certain most of them do FS. 699 is another one and that does. Also there are many BBS along the street.
[QUOTE=AsianChaos]What is your take on the Shangri-La at Pudoung. The forurm states the bar at the basement (BATS) seems to have a lot of working women.[/QUOTE]
Never been there, but almost certainly will be similar to the Hyatt bar (which btw is not Cloud 9 I just realized, but rather the bar on the first floor, I think. FYI). May have a bit more selection than Hyatt, but will likely be way overpriced and poor quality compared to other options.
Again, just guessing, but it's a fairly educated guess.
Dear All,
I wonder if you have any recommendations on some BBS or saunas that feature girls with very large racks... not the usually push-up bra C cups that you see in many place these days but the ones with really heavy breast (sometimes from over-sized girls).
Do you have any tips of places where I can find them?
I will be happy to share contacts, just PM me.
Take care, and keep riding!
BBLover
It's really a sad day. What remains of the twisted shambles of The Village is but a bunch of trees, a wreckage sites, and a few dark alleys where you can be shown a few girls and the guys will try to demand 300 kuai. I grew up there, in a sense, and the village will always have a place in my heart. It was there for me as a friend when I needed one, it taught me many things, it was a mentor to my entry into mongering, and it soothed me when frustrated or down. What remains today can do none of these things, and is no longer worth the hour long bus ride and 2 kuai it takes to get there. I hereby declare you "the former Village" my old friend. The only other area I've seen of adequate concentrated splendor to be worthy of a long trip, instead of just perusing the limited selection in the local neighborhood, is JinDing Lu. I think it is a worthy successor, and not only that — in the last few months many new shops have opened there. It is flourishing.
I did have one last absolutely excellent experience in the village with a fresh-off-the-farm beauty for 150, but the selection was limited enough that that was just pure luck.
*Photo of the shambles only. The girl wouldn't let me :(
Spent 3 days in Shanghai, had a great time...
Went to Tongren Lu, Manhattans and Judy's unless you have no other options please avoid, the prices have not really dropped and the quality is crap, old ugly and the 1 or 3 nice young Pinays had way too much attitude for my liking.
However went to Zapatas much better looking crowd highly reccomended if you want to put in some effort guys... Much younger and much better looking then Tongren Lu crowd.
Went to Shanghai hotel cant remember the number but got the standard service good as always but as my Chinese is very limited its a really mechanical game which is not for me...
But I found a KTV girl that speaks english tall about 170 cm really nice and spent 2 nights with her, was great because we could communicate between the sex thing good value at 1500 rmb for about 15 hours...
So looking forward to coming back to Shanghai....
Wizard
I was in Shanghai for business on June 2008 (sorry for the late report!) and had the chance to check on the local scene, guided by information on this thread.
I first went to “999”, near the Stadium, for what was one of the most interesting experiences I have ever had in all my years of mongering. Confident of what to expect by the information I had gathered here, I was greeted like a regular (all those foreigners look alike anyway, right?) and taken directly to the changing room. The boys helped me out with the key to the locker and led me to the shower/sauna area. After the shower, I indicated I wanted to choose a girl and was taken to the display area. Very nice selection, all young, good-natured, some shy, others more aggressive-looking. Chose a petite girl who spoke no English and that, given her looks, was barely legal. She led me to a room with a shower, small bed and mirror. The bathroom area was actually larger than the room itself, and I was soon to find out why. She sprinkled water on me and motioned me to lie down on an inflatable mattress. Than she started washing me carefully, from head to toe, with a very nice touch.
Once in bed, she proceeded to giving me a cat-bath that was just awesome. Smooth lips around my earlobes, wet kisses on my thighs and, as a “grand finale”, a long AR session that would have surprised me – if not for my knowing about it beforehand through ISG. Even before she started the BBBJ and we moved on to the deed itself, I was already more than happy to have followed the very detailed directions I found on this forum.
At some point she asked if I wanted the “red hope”, to which I said yes. That, again, was quite a new experience to me. Pictures that Bad Boy Billy has posted here describe the scene much better than I could ever do in writing, so let me just say that the sight of a naked Chinese beauty spinning around your little brother, while not particularly arousing (at least for me), is indeed quite exotic and enjoyable.
On my second day in Shanghai, I checked the sauna at Shanghai Hotel. Atmosphere is more business-like, as you would expect from facilities in a big hotel, but still very pleasant. Nice lounge area, cold beer and TVs to entertain you between sessions. Better selection of girls and similar service, except for the fact that rooms had no shower facilities (you were expected to have showered by yourself beforehand) and no AR was on offer. Also, the bed in the room they gave me had no sidebars (which, from what I could see, precluded any “red hope” play). I had a very hot skinny girl with boobs bigger than what I believe to be average in Chinese girls. She was more mature and displayed that easiness which comes with long experience in the game. I left feeling that Shanghai Hotel is a nice choice if you are in the area, but for the real thing I’d rather repeat “999”, which is exactly what I did before leaving Shanghai, for a second visit that was as great as the first one.
My only regret is that I did not have time to check on other addresses in Shanghai, a city that surprised me as a great mongering destination. Can't wait to be back!
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Thanks!
Love you man!
[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]Absolutely I am jerking your chain mate................you are a legend in my eyes................just a bit of fun my friend.
BTW - I will be in Shanghai May 1 to 5 - I want to meet youYes I saw his post..............did not even consider it worth responding to.
If only the newbies would put their eyes and brains into gear before their fingers start tap-tap-a-tapping on the keyboard.
All newbies - check out this first ever post in the Beijing thread that was posted only yesterday by a total newbie - [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=866548&postcount=4297[/url] - this is how it is done - GIVE info first before TAKING advice - that is how to gain creditability on the board.
Anyway - back on topic - who was the clown who asked 'what is the red rope'? See pics please.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Parasitius]It's really a sad day. What remains of the twisted shambles of The Village is but a bunch of trees, a wreckage sites, and a few dark alleys where you can be shown a few girls and the guys will try to demand 300 kuai. I grew up there, in a sense, and the village will always have a place in my heart. It was there for me as a friend when I needed one, it taught me many things, it was a mentor to my entry into mongering, and it soothed me when frustrated or down. What remains today can do none of these things, and is no longer worth the hour long bus ride and 2 kuai it takes to get there. I hereby declare you "the former Village" my old friend. The only other area I've seen of adequate concentrated splendor to be worthy of a long trip, instead of just perusing the limited selection in the local neighborhood, is JinDing Lu. I think it is a worthy successor, and not only that — in the last few months many new shops have opened there. It is flourishing. [/QUOTE]No how you feel, when Kangding Lu went down I was bummed. But where is JinDing Lu? And have you been to Xiaomuqiao Lu?
Hi guys,
First up (I) I have RTFF (ii) Thanks for the posts. As a result for the information it has helped me choose a hotel and what to expect.
Second, I have a query here but I will be able to report in July when I have sampled the wares. The query, or rather queries are these (maybe better answered by the seniors here).
Third, I travel from NZ to Europe and usually stopover in HK or Singapore or Osaka. This will be my first time in Shanghai. So be gentle with a newbie please.
1. My preference is for 90 mins plus. What are the saunas that offer that sort of time? I am often happy with an hour but I really hate it when there is a time restraint. It spoils it for me. One option is to go for takeaways and I intend to do that but the Red Rope reports have really got me interested. I had never heard of that before.
2. What is the scene like in the morning. I mean seriously early. Crack of dawn stuff. You know, like 10:00 am or even *whispering now* 9:00 am?
Tia
I was in Shanghai last week and have visited China several times over the past year. I stayed in Shanghai Hotel and on my first day in Shanghai this trip I was approached by a lady in Shanghai Hotel telling me that sex is available for 300 rmb. I told her that i am going to my room and will come down in 5 mins.
From past experiences in Shanghai I felt that this could be a trap so I emptied every thing from my pocket in my hotel room safe and then came down. This lady told me that I have to follow her to another place which is like 5 mins walk from the hotel. So I followed her and ofcourse she took me to a pink bar where I was put in a room and then introduced to a line up of girls.
I picked the one i liked and I said I want to leave with the girl as I have no money in my pocket. Still I was told to sit down while girl changes her clothes, so I sat. The girl didn't leave the room instead they quickly brought champagne for the girl and me. I said i don't have money on me and the girls said it is complimentary.
I started to have a feeling that this is not going as planned I again said i want to leave with the girl to my room and told the girl to go change. This girl started to try to take my clothes off. I just told her NO and told her in hotel room. She still didn't leave.
10 mins later i was about pissed off and tried to leave but instead the girl left and her bosses came in with a bill for US$ 500. I knew exactly what was going on and i kept my cool. I told them to follow to my hotel and i will pay them their bill. The guy searched me and found nothing in my pockets but my hotel key. I was asked which room i was staying and i gave them room number. The guy left and came back after 5 mins probably confirming my name and my room number.
Later I was told that I can leave with one of their goons and he will collect the money from me at the Hotel. We walked from Pink bar to my hotel and i was a bit briskly and in front of the guy who was to collect from me. As we approached my hotel. The goon following me tried to tell me that bring money outside. I just ran into the hotel and i started yelling that no come in the hotel and collect your money. The guys just left.
As soon as i walked in the hotel i requested them to change my hotel room and explained everything to the manager at reception. He gladly changed my room and I warned the guy not to give my new hotel room number to any one.
I didn't incur any further problems in Shanghai, but i really think that if you don't follow your instincts in Shanghai you can be in much further trouble then you bargained for. In short I rather do my mongering elsewhere. Since i was on business in Shanghai, I did monger other days but only at places reported on ISG.
Lesson learned "Don't take any chances in Shanghai or for that matter anywhere in China."
DON'T GO WITH TOUTS
DON'T GO WITH TOUTS
DON'T GO WITH TOUTS
DON'T GO WITH TOUTS
DON'T GO WITH TOUTS
Pretty simple rule
[QUOTE=Eaglestar]DON'T GO WITH TOUTS
Pretty simple rule[/QUOTE]
I love touts. They are more fun than drunken cats.
When they approach me and suggest women, I take this chance to play with them.
Sometimes I ask for a 'Chocolate What' - this is loads of fun with the BagWatchDVD crowd too. But the funniest reactions I get are when I demand that the tout find me an a-yi.
Last night on Hengshan Lu a tout actually ran away from ME because I was chasing him, listing the things I needed - "Can she iron? I need two meals a day cooked for me - and I don't like spicy food. I have a friend who is vegetarian, can she cook for him? I want an a-yi that will clean my ceilings - they are all sticky."
But, yeah, don't go with them.
[QUOTE=Monomi]No how you feel, when Kangding Lu went down I was bummed. But where is JinDing Lu? And have you been to Xiaomuqiao Lu?[/QUOTE]
Jinding Lu (金鼎路) is about 20 / 25 kuai (day/night) north-west of Zhongshan Park by taxi. Unfortunately I don't know any convenient bus to go exactly there and very few taxi drivers seem to recognize the name. The best way (since I assume 99% of anyone would be coming from closer to the city center) is to go to ZhenBei Lu & Jinding Lu (金鼎路真北路) and then get your driver to go all the way to the west end of Jinding Lu. The newly opened shops start from the west end.
(Sorry to be shoddy on the information, but I think once I said "go to the West end of" to a driver and since the road actually continues on somewhere further West where there is nothing, I got lost, so that's why I suggest just going West from Jinding & Zhenbei until you reach the end.)
The best thing about Jinding, unlike the former village, is you don't have to wait until 8pm for it to open. I've been there at 2pm and found nice chicks. The BEST I have seen, prime time, though, was a few weeks back at about 1 am where there was a mind-boggling selection of chicks that I wanted and it was hard to make a choice.
Also tell anyone asking more than 150 to get lost. They're usually nice about not ripping you off here, and I've actually gotten full-service for 130 when I didn't discuss the price and the girl just 'assumed' give me the, I guess, normal Chinese price.
I haven't heard of Xiaomuqiao Lu, thanks for the idea, a lot of shops there? Just walk on the segment relatively close to the Damuqiao Subway stop or what? Thanks.
I went to Dongcheng Sarosa for an afternoon session yesterday. A SN girl told me the police is supposed to be checking such establishment frequently and many SN have closed down for awhile. I don't know if that's really what's happening.
To my surprised, the place is packed. So much so I have to wait for almost an hour! There are a bunch of new girls though the ones I saw were in the 6-7 levels. I picked 126, a petite girl from Guangxi. Standard session and the girl seems fairly green. Didn't want to do a BBBJCIM and the result was rather amusing. Youngish looking, nice skin, well-proportioned tits, accommodating.
[QUOTE=John]
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10 mins later i was about pissed off and tried to leave but instead the girl left and her bosses came in with a bill for US$ 500. I knew exactly what was going on and i kept my cool. I told them to follow to my hotel and i will pay them their bill. The guy searched me and found nothing in my pockets but my hotel key. I was asked which room i was staying and i gave them room number. The guy left and came back after 5 mins probably confirming my name and my room number.
Later I was told that I can leave with one of their goons and he will collect the money from me at the Hotel. We walked from Pink bar to my hotel and i was a bit briskly and in front of the guy who was to collect from me. As we approached my hotel. The goon following me tried to tell me that bring money outside. I just ran into the hotel and i started yelling that no come in the hotel and collect your money. The guys just left.
As soon as i walked in the hotel i requested them to change my hotel room and explained everything to the manager at reception. He gladly changed my room and I warned the guy not to give my new hotel room number to any one.
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You took a small change by bring you hotel key with you. What they might do
is take your key and go into your hotel room and rob you. Even if you change your room because they know your face, they might wait for you when you leave your hotel. They might follow you and find a good place to teach you a lesson.
On the other hand, if anything serious happens, you know the bar's location to bring the police or friends. If you did have sex at the bar, most likely they feel you will not go to the police because it's illegal. They just want to make you feel guility that you own them something and want you to pay the scam.
Can you give the bar's name, address and better directions?
Could anyone recommend a cell ph or PDA or any sort of mobile software that will translate SMS text to and from Chinese to English (and vice versa)? Not just single words at a time - but actual phrases...
Looking for ideas!
I've seen this site:
[url]http://www.moka.com/[/url]
but this service isn't available in Shanghai, as far as I know...?
They do have this:
[url]http://www.moka.com/en/skype-me.htm[/url]
Which might be good for those of you who have a 'regular' set up and need to communicate to your girl (but have limited language skills, like myself). Unfortunately, I have a MAC, and I think this is for PC only (? ). Hoping something like this: [url]http://www.moka.com/en/ynet. Htm[/url] will be available soon. Or perhaps someone knows of another option I can try?
I would really like to have something like this. As I would ultimately like to set up a 'regular' or 'regular home delivery' option. By the way. The websites with pictures that will send to your hotel room are complete scams. The pictures are NEVER of that of the real girl (in my experience). I've even sent one back! I've had better experience with picking up 'take away' from a BBS (at least I can c/inspect the girl prior). Of course the language barrier is a problem, hence the question and search for ideas on SMS/text translation.
I'm a newbie, and have just been taking the time to read all the reports, etc. And hope to have something to add very soon.
I live here in Shanghai (pudong). An expat, with very limited Chinese (to about a dozen words or so). But I can manage "taxi Chinese" and enough to pronounce addresses and some numbers, so far. This has been tested out many times in the taxi, and I've managed to get from point A to point B with very little problem.
Thinking about venturing down to this massage place mentioned on Huai Hai Rd, opposite Times Square. If anyone has anymore details on the place, other than what has been mentioned so far. It's greatly appreciated.
Thanks for reading,
Regards!
S
[QUOTE=Parasitius]Jinding Lu (金鼎路) is about 20 / 25 kuai (day/night) north-west of Zhongshan Park by taxi. Unfortunately I don't know any convenient bus to go exactly there and very few taxi drivers seem to recognize the name. The best way (since I assume 99% of anyone would be coming from closer to the city center) is to go to ZhenBei Lu & Jinding Lu (金鼎路真北路) and then get your driver to go all the way to the west end of Jinding Lu. The newly opened shops start from the west end.
[/QUOTE]Will have to check out Jinding in near future. Yes, near Damuqiao in Xujiahui. Xiaomuqiao lu + corner of Xietu Lu. Then head south down Xiaomuqiao. Not a huge number of venues, probably 10 all told. Some lookers there though. They will try to get you for 300 FS, but you can negotiate down to 200. Haven't gotten lower than that though. Anyway, good luck!
[QUOTE=Stealth747]Thinking about venturing down to this massage place mentioned on Huai Hai Rd, opposite Times Square. If anyone has anymore details on the place, other than what has been mentioned so far. It's greatly appreciated.
Thanks for reading,
Regards!
S[/QUOTE]Golden bell is quite good but expensive and does not offer FS. What you do get is a great lounge waiting area and spa's with views out over huai hai park and a great massage with happy ending. I've been twice and the girls both times were hot and did wonderful long massages that slowly evolve into HJ and BJ. They use hot and cold water and a bag but its ok. No AR. The girls let me touch them but are a little hesitant at first. Managed to growl both their pussies out in 69 position. Rooms are fairly dark. All up good experiences but for the price you could get more at other venues.
Also if your visiting xiaomuqiao lu walk a bit further south along xiaomuqiao lu and turn right onto ling ling lu. There are a couple more FS bbs's there one of which the girls wear uniforms. At least 1 girl was in a school girl uniform when I went by. And she didn't look bad actually. Most places are quick in their service so as already mentioned try not to pay over 200rmb. Take care along this street as it has been raided by the police in the past. Plenty of choice there even at midday.
I'm in Shanghai for two weeks, first time here since stepping into adulthood. After becoming rather bored of the clubs and bars (which are mostly overrated IMO), I started to explore the more vivacious options. After reading some reports here on 999, I decided to give it a try.
The first thing you'll notice when you step in is that it is a highly guarded place (most likely the organsation pay protection fees to the local police), and feels completely like a brothel. They welcome you with about, 10+ young waiters all keen to undress you and show you their goods. They begin by asking you if its first time there, and where you're from (they took some whack guesses on where I come from, which I found pretty funny since I'm a local shanghainese that's been in Australia for a good number of years). I'm guessing that this is to see how much they can rip you off by. As it was my first time, and my chinese is fairly limited, I was scammed into doing a back-rub, shower, and milk bathe, which I later found out was a $288 yuan damage.
Finally when I was led upstairs, they gave me a choice of three girls. All seemed very friendly, and keen to do their job. They're probably glad to see a young 20 something asian rather than the old westerners/foreign asians that frequent that place. As a consequence, the girl I picked was sooo overly friendly that completely contrasted the reported "mechanical process" this place served. She asked me what I wanted, what I expected, and if I had any special "needs" (all in Chinese, although she did speak a little english). Result was 90 minutes of pretty much everything I could dream of from such a place, sensual pussy/tit massage, the 'red rope' (I enticed her to do it, saying that i wanted to learn some chinese culture and I heard this was one of the must learns, she reluctantly agreed), a FUCKIN great BBBJ, she was considerate and asked me if I could last if she continued (which I embarrassingly said no), so she got on top and started riding like a stallion. Feeling her wet back I asked her if she wanted to be on the bottom, which she graciously agreed. A few thrusts was all it took, didn't even have time for CIM (which I'm 90% sure she would have agreed to). Then she just lied in my arms for a good 30 min or so, just chit chatting, and I found i learned a lot more interesting stuff about shanghai from a hooker than any of my friends/relatives.
Total damage 840 yuan (i had to pay with CC which was an extra 50), apart from the shower scam at the start, it was a satisfying experience.
But then again, I live in Australia, where such business has poor service levels for high price. I sure will try the other places that these forum users have reported positively on.
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[QUOTE=John]. I really think that if you don't follow your instincts in Shanghai you can be in much further trouble then you bargained for. In short I rather do my mongering elsewhere.
Lesson learned "Don't take any chances in Shanghai or for that matter anywhere in China. "[/QUOTE]John
If have read the forum you would know we all shout "Don't go with a tout! " It is plain and simple. They will scam you. However, don't just assume this is a China thing. There are touts the world over and they are all after the same thing.
London, Manila, Bangkok, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Jakarta, Singapore.
If anyone, anywhere is foolish enough to go with a tout then so be it. Epseically if they have read through here. There is so much to keep you occupied, the touts really should be out of business by now. .
WGS
[QUOTE=Mike666]I went to Dongcheng Sarosa for an afternoon session yesterday. A SN girl told me the police is supposed to be checking such establishment frequently and many SN have closed down for awhile. I don't know if that's really what's happening.
To my surprised, the place is packed. So much so I have to wait for almost an hour! There are a bunch of new girls though the ones I saw were in the 6-7 levels. I picked 126, a petite girl from Guangxi. Standard session and the girl seems fairly green. Didn't want to do a BBBJCIM and the result was rather amusing. Youngish looking, nice skin, well-proportioned tits, accommodating.[/QUOTE]Ji Yuan on Jiaozhou Lu also appeared shut on Friday (metal grill down). Thompson at Magnolia Plaza on Zhaojiabang Lu is also shut. More disappointed about the latter than the former.
Those that remain seem to be putting up prices.
Hi everyone,
I'm new here (expect that I've been reading for some time now).
Went to Shanghai a few years ago, and didn't really dare to try any of the paying services since there were so many cheesy girls interested in the oh so tall foreigners = free action (if you tell her something cheesy that is). Was nice but I got tired of Chinese GF's, they turned out to be quite High Maintenance.
But after reading about the red rope a few other things here, I kind of start to get the feeling I missed the point.
What I saw ack then:
I noticed many BBS with an unusual amount of girls near Tian Bao Lu, which offered "additional services" bu I never tried, I was kind of scared sine I was the only foreigner around and all hese Chinese people started to talk to me and grab my hand.
Even had some older people presenting me their daughter or whoever it was. They probably wanted me to "rent" them of take them with me in my fantastic world where people sleep with custom-made Dolce Gabbanna Pajamas (that was ironic)
In a bar called "California" and "windows", there was a lot of "students" which I was told would go back home with me for about 800 rmb. They looked quite good although I suspected they were freshly arrives from their countryside province. Looked expensive to me given that I could do it for free easily and I wasn't sure what was on the menu.
My question is: where do you go to get BBBJ + CIM?
Is it worth bringing back home one of these "students" and what can you expect from them?
Thank you.
[QUOTE=Onadlos]Hi everyone,
My question is: where do you go to get BBBJ + CIM?
Is it worth bringing back home one of these "students" and what can you expect from them?
Thank you.[/QUOTE]Some bbs will do BBBJ + cim but usually its older women or bbs that offer fs. You could try negotiate it at a sauna or with a girl you take home from a pub. Shanghai's really an eclectic city with many types of girls. There are stereotypes but I've met many women that have suprised me too. Not all the gf's are high maintenance. I think certain men attract crazy bitches IMO
Are you still here or wanna come back?
[QUOTE=World Guy Sh]Ji Yuan on Jiaozhou Lu also appeared shut on Friday (metal grill down). Thompson at Magnolia Plaza on Zhaojiabang Lu is also shut. More disappointed about the latter than the former.
Those that remain seem to be putting up prices.[/QUOTE]shanghai hotel closed, so is the place on Jiangning Road / Wuding Road.
What's going on here.
I also noticed that at peacock, they blocked out their 298rmb service with some cardboard with Chinese writing on it. I went in and asked if they still had the service they said they did.
But I can't help but think somethings going on?
[QUOTE=World Guy Sh]Ji Yuan on Jiaozhou Lu also appeared shut on Friday (metal grill down). Thompson at Magnolia Plaza on Zhaojiabang Lu is also shut. More disappointed about the latter than the former.
Those that remain seem to be putting up prices.[/QUOTE]Checked with my local contacts. Multiple raids last week, including Ju Yuan and a few other popular spots, and some customers / service providers were detained. They think this will last for a month or so.
[QUOTE=Sinserity]I'm in Shanghai for two weeks, first time here since stepping into adulthood. After becoming rather bored of the clubs and bars (which are mostly overrated IMO), I started to explore the more vivacious options. After reading some reports here on 999, I decided to give it a try.
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How to get to 999? What's the address? How far is it from Renaissance Pudong Hotel? I will be there next, would like to try it.
[QUOTE=Kosmos]How to get to 999? What's the address? How far is it from Renaissance Pudong Hotel? I will be there next, would like to try it.[/QUOTE]
999 is at 999 Tianyaoqiao Road (tea-an-yao-chow). It is located in near the southwest corner of Shanghai on the Puxi side, near the Shanghai Stadium. It is accessible by subway and a 1o minute walk or directly via taxi. If you are staying in Pudong, its not really worth it to make the trek over.
On the Pudong Side, you have World Plaza (B2), Sacrosa, Merrylin Hotel (2F). These are all great places and extensively reviewed in the forum.
I met a girl in a BBS before Xmas. She speaks no English and my Chinese is ok so we could communicate to some degree. She had never worked before and the laoban told me this beforehand. She was scared shitless and after a few visits in the same week I got her back to my home. To cut a story short, she is living with me now and is very happy. Even asking about marriage in the future. She is young (20) and a genuinely nice girl. She seems to have had an unlucky life before. Divorced parents and one boyfriend (an abortion too) She really is a stunner. She is frightened of sex and especially kissing and so I have been patient so far. I really don't want to hurt this girl but on the other hand I don't want to be used and then dumped in the future. There is a big age difference and she is ok with this. She swears that she is very happy with me and only needs time to settle down. Come on lads, give me some advice here!
[QUOTE=Rahmeh]shanghai hotel closed, so is the place on Jiangning Road / Wuding Road.
What's going on here.
I also noticed that at peacock, they blocked out their 298rmb service with some cardboard with Chinese writing on it. I went in and asked if they still had the service they said they did.
But I can't help but think somethings going on?[/QUOTE]Hi All,
my first day in Shanghai...and i was in Shanghai Hotel yesterday and it was open and the service was just fine, it was at about 6pm and no sign of closing.
Schaf
[QUOTE=Rahmeh]shanghai hotel closed, so is the place on Jiangning Road / Wuding Road.
What's going on here.
I also noticed that at peacock, they blocked out their 298rmb service with some cardboard with Chinese writing on it. I went in and asked if they still had the service they said they did.
But I can't help but think somethings going on?[/QUOTE]Could it be the Formula One Grand Prix affecting all these places?
I'm very surprised though that it would affect a place like Peacock that doesn't offer full sex and I believe in Shanghai there are hundreds of places like Peacock.
[QUOTE=Visi001]Checked with my local contacts. Multiple raids last week, including Ju Yuan and a few other popular spots, and some customers / service providers were detained. They think this will last for a month or so.[/QUOTE]Yep, and Peacock (Xietu Lu) was raided last night. I should know. That's a first.
Keep safe all, and keep a copy of passport and visa on you. Just in case.
WGS
[QUOTE=White Dragon]Some bbs will do BBBJ + cim but usually its older women or bbs that offer fs. You could try negotiate it at a sauna or with a girl you take home from a pub. Shanghai's really an eclectic city with many types of girls. There are stereotypes but I've met many women that have suprised me too. Not all the gf's are high maintenance. I think certain men attract crazy bitches IMO
Are you still here or wanna come back?[/QUOTE]I was there on holidays for a few weeks but will go back there this summer for work for at least a few months. I guess i'll start by learnng the chinese vocabulary to negotiate..
As of last Friday, B2 had a sign posted on the door (in Chinese) that stated they were closed for repairs due to a "water pipe".
Today, as of 4:00 p.m., they were still closed with the same sign on the door.
To be sure, there are significant and large-scale renovations underway on both B1 (subway concourse level) and B2 level as well. Ther are many shops and other spaces that have major contracting activity.
My guess -- and it's just a guess -- is that it could be another week until it reopens.
[QUOTE=Wordsofwisdom]I met a girl in a BBS before Xmas.come on lads, give me some advice here! [/QUOTE]Be careful. What is the age difference? My gut tells me you are being played. She doesn't like to kiss you, but had to get a abortion because of a boyfriend?
Hey bro's
Arriving for a few days of R&R in Shang on Sunday. Staying at Hilton and checking out SH and 999 and will add to the wealth of reports on here afterwards. My question is I am looking for the best bar to just relax on Sunday that would have the best p4p of maybe even freebie available. And yes I have rtff but haven't seen much specifics on Sunday. Is there much action at tongren or zapatas on Sunday? Anyone have anything better?
Thanks to all,
Oak
This is a post from the Biejing Forum. Perhaps some of the same actions are being pursued in Shanghai. Shame to close up some of the fine facilities we enjoy.
Be careful out there.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Intransit
[url]http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2...nt_11159700.htm[/url]
BEIJING, April 9 (Xinhua) -- The Ministry of Public Security announced a national action against [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] of women and children here Thursday, in wake of increasing incidences of these cases in China.
"The country has seen an increasing incidence of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] of women and children recently, though the police have continued fighting such crimes for years," said Zhang Xinfeng, vice minister of public security at a meeting.
The nationwide crackdown will last from April to December this year, he said.
Police must carefully investigate residents to identify women and children victims and rescue them, he said.
They were also asked to collect information about possible victims and tightly follow leads, he said.
The police will also crack down upon those who seduce or force children to beg on streets or commit crimes, especially those masterminding such gangs, he added.
[QUOTE=Rahmeh]What's going on here.
But I can't help but think somethings going on?[/QUOTE]Toured Laoshan, Weifang, Eshan Lu district, many places shut down, especially the face in the window spots. Word from the girls is that business has been flat since the Olympics, combined with the massive increase in higher end parlours being run as cooperatives. Two years ago. girls on Laoshan had to turn over 8k to keep thier jobs, last year it was upped 10k, since the Olympics it declined steadily to 2k in February, now it's dropped completely.
fz
[QUOTE=Wordsofwisdom]I met a girl in a BBS before Xmas. She speaks no English and my Chinese is ok so we could communicate to some degree. She had never worked before and the laoban told me this beforehand. She was scared shitless and after a few visits in the same week I got her back to my home. To cut a story short, she is living with me now and is very happy. Even asking about marriage in the future. She is young (20) and a genuinely nice girl. She seems to have had an unlucky life before. Divorced parents and one boyfriend (an abortion too) She really is a stunner. She is frightened of sex and especially kissing and so I have been patient so far. I really don't want to hurt this girl but on the other hand I don't want to be used and then dumped in the future. There is a big age difference and she is ok with this. She swears that she is very happy with me and only needs time to settle down. Come on lads, give me some advice here![/QUOTE]For me, 90% chance she is using you. The best way to figure it out is NOT to be generous from oney standpoint and wait. Will she ask you for some gifts, neckless, computer, phone.
If so, she's really using you
Try to be nice by gesture, words, cook for her or invite her to restaurant. But no gift or money. Wait and see!
I've heard the very same story many times.
By the way, another thing is to ask her to show you her ID, you'll se name and birthdate (verify as they other say a younger age). If she likes you, she'll trust and show. If not, she'll find a dumb excuse.
You have 1 big advantage: You are certainly much smarter than she is so use it until you're sure she's not using you.
[QUOTE=Wordsofwisdom]I met a girl in a BBS before Xmas...
She is frightened of sex and especially kissing and so I have been patient so far.
There is a big age difference and she is ok with this. She swears that she is very happy with me and only needs time to settle down. Come on lads, give me some advice here![/QUOTE]
So you've known her for 4 months, she is living with you, big age difference (how big?), interested in marriage, had an abortion, afraid of sex, especially kissing... and you are looking for advice? As a friendly comment, do the math.
Of course, it is possible that she is genuine. But what are the odds, given the facts as you have presented them? It would be useful for you to spend some time reading the China Women - Opinions and Advice section, and possibly PMing some of the guys that have found themselves in situations where they have fallen in love with young and beautiful Chinese girls. And then find they are not so simple and straightforward as originally seemed.
Whatever you decide, best of luck to you.
Cheers, Phenyl
[QUOTE=Oakley08]Is there much action at tongren or zapatas on Sunday? [/QUOTE]Very good question my friend.
Here is a good chance for you to contribute BEFORE you receive assistance.
Go check them out for us - am really interested to know also.
Please report back with your findings.
[QUOTE=Wordsofwisdom]I met a girl in a BBS before Xmas. She speaks no English and my Chinese is ok so we could communicate to some degree. She had never worked before and the laoban told me this beforehand. She was scared shitless and after a few visits in the same week I got her back to my home. To cut a story short, she is living with me now and is very happy. Even asking about marriage in the future. She is young (20) and a genuinely nice girl. She seems to have had an unlucky life before. Divorced parents and one boyfriend (an abortion too) She really is a stunner. She is frightened of sex and especially kissing and so I have been patient so far. I really don't want to hurt this girl but on the other hand I don't want to be used and then dumped in the future. There is a big age difference and she is ok with this. She swears that she is very happy with me and only needs time to settle down. Come on lads, give me some advice here![/QUOTE]
Jeez WOW - you met her at a BBS.... and you're still wondering???!!
First thing you've got to UNDERSTAND is that she IS a Working Gal - yeh, a hooker - otherwise why would she have been at a BBS? That she's actually gone and started working at the BBS shows you her usual train of thought, and that that it is perfectly OK for her to sell her body.
I've had quite a few relationships with "practically virgin working gals" in my life and are even in a few of these at present - but I NEVER lose sight of the fact that they ARE/WERE/CAN EASILY REVERT BACK to being a working gal.
Please WOW, you please do not loose sight. IMHO
SEAJ
I'm going to China in May. First time and I speak zero Chinese. Will be visiting Shanghai and staying at Pudong Shangri-La. I have never had a soapy and have always wanted to try that. 999 seems to be highly recommended but appears to be quite some distance from my hotel. Sarcosa seems closer but do they do soapy?
Any recommendations are highly appreciated, thx.
[QUOTE=Onadlos]Hi everyone,
I'm new here (expect that I've been reading for some time now).
Went to Shanghai a few years ago, and didn't really dare to try any of the paying services since there were so many cheesy girls interested in the oh so tall foreigners = free action (if you tell her something cheesy that is). Was nice but I got tired of Chinese GF's, they turned out to be quite High Maintenance.
But after reading about the red rope a few other things here, I kind of start to get the feeling I missed the point.
What I saw ack then:
I noticed many BBS with an unusual amount of girls near Tian Bao Lu, which offered "additional services" bu I never tried, I was kind of scared sine I was the only foreigner around and all hese Chinese people started to talk to me and grab my hand.
Even had some older people presenting me their daughter or whoever it was. They probably wanted me to "rent" them of take them with me in my fantastic world where people sleep with custom-made Dolce Gabbanna Pajamas (that was ironic)
In a bar called "California" and "windows", there was a lot of "students" which I was told would go back home with me for about 800 rmb. They looked quite good although I suspected they were freshly arrives from their countryside province. Looked expensive to me given that I could do it for free easily and I wasn't sure what was on the menu.
My question is: where do you go to get BBBJ + CIM?
Is it worth bringing back home one of these "students" and what can you expect from them?
Thank you.[/QUOTE]
Try Sarosa. At least the girls I've tried are willing to do BBBJ+CIM.
[QUOTE=Wordsofwisdom]I met a girl in a BBS before Xmas. She speaks no English and my Chinese is ok so we could communicate to some degree. She had never worked before and the laoban told me this beforehand. She was scared shitless and after a few visits in the same week I got her back to my home. To cut a story short, she is living with me now and is very happy. Even asking about marriage in the future. She is young (20) and a genuinely nice girl. She seems to have had an unlucky life before. Divorced parents and one boyfriend (an abortion too) She really is a stunner. She is frightened of sex and especially kissing and so I have been patient so far. I really don't want to hurt this girl but on the other hand I don't want to be used and then dumped in the future. There is a big age difference and she is ok with this. She swears that she is very happy with me and only needs time to settle down. Come on lads, give me some advice here![/QUOTE]Listen to the commets.
This is not a happy ending.
Hi Guys,
I fly into Shanghai on Saturday. What is a BBS how do I identify one? What would the going rates be for BBBJ? CIM
Thanks for the help in advance.
I'll be in Shanghai tomorrow for four days. I'm staying at the Portman Ritz Carlton on Nanjing Xi Lu.
I've been searching for business cards of various saunas/BBS to give to the taxi driver. I've experienced language problems in the past and don't want the hassle this time around.
Anyway, can any of you nice people help.
Don't really know what I want but:
Sacrosa
World Plaza B2
999
Shanghai Hotel
And of course, anything cheaper
Thanks in advance
Can anyone provide business cards for
999
Sacrosa
3F in the Merrylin Hotel
Shanghai hotel
World Plaza B2
Anything on Gubei road.
[QUOTE=World Guy Sh]Yep, and Peacock (Xietu Lu) was raided last night. I should know. That's a first.
Keep safe all, and keep a copy of passport and visa on you. Just in case.
WGS[/QUOTE]What do you mean with "raided"?
I'm serious, I mean, this is a massage joint, right?
Nothing more than a handjob.
Can they detain customers of such establishment?
Situation in Shanghai is getting me worried now.
Looking for the correct address for 999. I've tried 999 Tianyaoqiao Road, Shanghai, China, but it appears wrong.
Thanks
There is a big age difference and she is ok with this. She swears that she is very happy with me and only needs time to settle down.
[QUOTE=Oakley08]Hey bro's
Arriving for a few days of R&R in Shang on Sunday. Staying at Hilton and checking out SH and 999 and will add to the wealth of reports on here afterwards. My question is I am looking for the best bar to just relax on Sunday that would have the best p4p of maybe even freebie available. And yes I have rtff but haven't seen much specifics on Sunday. Is there much action at tongren or zapatas on Sunday? Anyone have anything better?
Thanks to all,
Oak[/QUOTE]I prefer Tong Ren Lu, all day not only Sundays. My favorite place is Club L. A. With nice girls to chat and so. Love them and it is a nice calm place to have fun.
[QUOTE=Wordsofwisdom]I met a girl in a BBS before Xmas. She speaks no English and my Chinese is ok so we could communicate to some degree. She had never worked before and the laoban told me this beforehand. She was scared shitless and after a few visits in the same week I got her back to my home. To cut a story short, she is living with me now and is very happy. Even asking about marriage in the future. She is young (20) and a genuinely nice girl. She seems to have had an unlucky life before. Divorced parents and one boyfriend (an abortion too) She really is a stunner. She is frightened of sex and especially kissing and so I have been patient so far. I really don't want to hurt this girl but on the other hand I don't want to be used and then dumped in the future. There is a big age difference and she is ok with this. She swears that she is very happy with me and only needs time to settle down.come on lads, give me some advice here! [/QUOTE]My questions is how much money have you given her so far? And how are you going to get her to move out? Hope you are correct in that she is not screwing you right now. At least your little head is not doing the thinking.
We guys are such suckers for younger and pretty girls.
Tonight went to 500 Wuzhong Lu: closed. I was there also on Sunday and was normal business. Hope it opens soon again.
Thereafter tried 999: Open
However, the last couple of times I have to wait almost 1 hour before I get to the fishbowl. Do you guys have the same experience? It is over-crowded in the evenings and on Sunday afternoons.
Had #825, nice girl with good rack and attitude. Had to push her a bit but she agreed on 2 pops with the last CIM.
[QUOTE=Xaber J]Looking for the correct address for 999. I've tried 999 Tianyaoqiao Road, Shanghai, China, but it appears wrong.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Here are a couple links that will get you in the ballpark of what youa re needing:
[url]http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=999%20Tianyaoqiao%20Road%2C%20Shanghai&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl[/url]
smartnamecard.com - you will find many business cards here that you can print out.
[QUOTE=Bier 8]
Thereafter tried 999: Open
However, the last couple of times I have to wait almost 1 hour before I get to the fishbowl. Do you guys have the same experience? It is over-crowded in the evenings and on Sunday afternoons.
Had #825, nice girl with good rack and attitude. Had to push her a bit but she agreed on 2 pops with the last CIM.[/QUOTE]
I can't figure out whether 999 is in Puxi or in Pudong. Have their biz card but not clear.
I just do not want to venture in a long taxi ride as I might be on the "wrong side of the river":)
Any light on this?
[QUOTE=Stopover]There is a big age difference and she is ok with this. She swears that she is very happy with me and only needs time to settle down.[/QUOTE]
think with the big head first, not with the small head. And switch off the heart link.
[QUOTE=Bionicman]I can't figure out whether 999 is in Puxi or in Pudong. Have their biz card but not clear.
I just do not want to venture in a long taxi ride as I might be on the "wrong side of the river":)
Any light on this?[/QUOTE]999 is on the Puxi side near Shanghai Stadium.
It is reachable by Line 4 on the subway.
[QUOTE=Bionicman]think with the big head first, not with the small head. And switch off the heart link.[/QUOTE]
Well..... W.O.W. - seems like ALL the replies have been to advise you to "abandon ship." But you've up to now kept quiet!
Do I detect a certain amount of reluctance on your part to actually use your big head?? O.K., O.K., I think most of us here can emphatize with your situation - I mean, dem sweet young things.... they ARE sweet ain't they?!!
And if this be the case, then a bit of further/corrolary advise: STOP acting like the Love sick puppy that you find yourself in and start laying down the law with her. All this crap about ".....She is frightened of sex and especially kissing and so I have been patient so far. I really don't want to hurt this girl her not wanting to kiss..." and that ".....she just needs time to settle down..." JEEEEEZZZUUSS!! Enough of that crap!!
Chinese gals needs to be controlled and certainly takes instructions and directions from their males well - in fact, they practically "need" this! You treat a Chinese gal the way you're expected to treat Western/Westernized gals and you're totally screwed!!
So, if you just cannot tear yourself away from her, you HAVE TO HAVE HER ON YOUR TERMS!! Otherwise, you really do need to abandon ship.
Just IMHO
SEAJ
I completely agree with Joe. Nothing against taking a girl in, paying her, even maybe loving her, but it is you who forks out the dough. And therefore it should be you who lays down the rules. Don't be fooled. It is not very different from an employment contract.
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]Well..... W.O.W. - seems like ALL the replies have been to advise you to "abandon ship." But you've up to now kept quiet!
Do I detect a certain amount of reluctance on your part to actually use your big head?? O.K., O.K., I think most of us here can emphatize with your situation - I mean, dem sweet young things.... they ARE sweet ain't they?!!
And if this be the case, then a bit of further/corrolary advise: STOP acting like the Love sick puppy that you find yourself in and start laying down the law with her. All this crap about ".....She is frightened of sex and especially kissing and so I have been patient so far. I really don't want to hurt this girl her not wanting to kiss..." and that ".....she just needs time to settle down..." JEEEEEZZZUUSS!! Enough of that crap!!
Chinese gals needs to be controlled and certainly takes instructions and directions from their males well - in fact, they practically "need" this! You treat a Chinese gal the way you're expected to treat Western/Westernized gals and you're totally screwed!!
So, if you just cannot tear yourself away from her, you HAVE TO HAVE HER ON YOUR TERMS!! Otherwise, you really do need to abandon ship.
Just IMHO
SEAJ[/QUOTE]
Dear All,
After three days in Shanghai I am able to contribute a little, thanks for all the precious reports.
First day when I arrived after a long flight from Europe I felt a little tense in my back, even after a first class flight a massage was necessary! That is at least what the little sheep below my belly told me. I did not want to go out immediately so I thought I will try the inhouse massage offer of my hotel and see if there are any extras possible. I am staying at the Donghu Hotel, by the way an ok hotel, girl friendly and at a great location.
After my call an offer of 180RMB was made for an hour massage in my room, ten minutes later a girl in the range of a 6 knocked at my door and I let her in. She pointed me towards the bed, brought a towel and asked me to undress. As she was in a very formal outfit I did not remove my underpants. Massage started and was very good! When she asked me to turn around I asked her nice and polite if there was any special massage possibility pointing towards my groins. She refused, but with a little smile and I asked again very nicely and then she took a piece of paper and noted down 270. OK, done deal, 90RMB more for whatever to come. And what was to come was a fantastic HJ, slow and nice, but she absolutely refused to take off any of her clothes. Anyways, nice start.
In the afternoon I went to Shanghai Hotel by taxi. At the massage reception I asked for the price and if I remember correctly it was 650RMB.
I got trapped into a body scrub and a pedicure for 70 RMB each. If you want to avoid just insist on the massage and decline any extra they want to give.
Then I was lead to the massage room area and a nice lady was waiting. Relatively large boobs, nice face, tallish and a lovely smile. I guess she was in the beginning of her thirties.
No massage offered here, just straight into the game, she caressed me, kissed my nipples, took off my pijama and started sucking my dick, which she did very well. After a while on with the cap, fucking in some positions on the massage table and finally I asked her to blow me off and I came in her mouth.
That was it, no rush, but also no indication for a second round, she cleaned me, I went to the shower and then paid. Well, an ok experience.
Same evening I was still horny after having seen many beauties on the street and called one of the massage adds in the Shanghai times and ordered a girl for 180 plus 50 for the taxi for 2 hours, massage only, extras to be discussed with the girl. I do not want to mention which one, see later.
A lovely girl came 20 min later, nice smile, good english, beautiful and tall. I undressed completely, she stayed in her street clothes and started giving me a good massage all over my back and after a while always came clother to my ass and my groins with a sensual erotic touch. My cock was attracted by it and when it was really hard she asked me to turn around. With some giggling she offered me "special" service, BBBJ, Full Sex, touching getting naked etc. For 1600RMB. I laughed my ass of and she immediately came down to 1200RMB, wow, still a lot to laugh.
After some chat I offered her 400RMB for a BBBJ with CIM, at the end we agreed to 500 on top of the 230 I already paid, inclusive of full service if I wanted. It is not the best negotiation position when you already have a hard on and a lovely girl in front of you! I knew that before, but forgot again when it was still time.
She undressed and a skinny body with very small tits but huge nipples was shown to me and she said she will do something special, just needs to go to the bathroom. She came out with a glass of hot water and started a hot water BJ, WOW! She was amazing in doing this! Getting balls and cock sucked with hot water is something very enjoyable.
After a while I came in her mouth, I could touch her anywhere during all the time, finger her pussy and so on.
She continued to massage me a bit and offered a second session, but it was just enough for me that day.
At the end she gave me her phone number and offered to come next time for 500 including everything, or for 1000 together with a friend of hers. She was very much insisting to not tell anybody her number bcs she would get problems with the escort agency. I still write it down here, bcs I am sure this happens all the time with the girls from these agencies, it is a hit or miss as I have realised the next day, but this experience coming in another report.
Next report with a new. At least I did not find anything on the thread- sauna experience, but first need some food.
Have fun,
Schaf
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Gubei road is way out in Puxi, most of the other places you list are in Pudong.
Where are you staying?
[QUOTE=Xaber J]Can anyone provide business cards for
999
Sacrosa
3F in the Merrylin Hotel
Shanghai hotel
World Plaza B2
Anything on Gubei road.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Schaf29]In the afternoon I went to Shanghai Hotel by taxi. At the massage reception I asked for the price and if I remember correctly it was 650RMB......................Then I was lead to the massage room area and a nice lady was waiting.[/QUOTE]Never before have I seen or heard of a guy being led to a room with a girl 'waiting' there - you always get a selection to choose from.
Was there Friday night. Everything back to normal operations
Nice report. I have stayed at the Donghu several times and find it great deal and excellent location. Based on your experiences, I will try the in-house massage. You can also order out from the Oasis massage across the street and evolve into a similar service model you found in the Shanghai Times.
[QUOTE=Schaf29]Dear All,
After three days in Shanghai I am able to contribute a little, thanks for all the precious reports.
First day when I arrived after a long flight from Europe I felt a little tense in my back, even after a first class flight a massage was necessary! That is at least what the little sheep below my belly told me. I did not want to go out immediately so I thought I will try the inhouse massage offer of my hotel and see if there are any extras possible. I am staying at the Donghu Hotel, by the way an ok hotel, girl friendly and at a great location.
After my call an offer of 180RMB was made for an hour massage in my room, ten minutes later a girl in the range of a 6 knocked at my door and I let her in. She pointed me towards the bed, brought a towel and asked me to undress. As she was in a very formal outfit I did not remove my underpants. Massage started and was very good! When she asked me to turn around I asked her nice and polite if there was any special massage possibility pointing towards my groins. She refused, but with a little smile and I asked again very nicely and then she took a piece of paper and noted down 270. OK, done deal, 90RMB more for whatever to come. And what was to come was a fantastic HJ, slow and nice, but she absolutely refused to take off any of her clothes. Anyways, nice start.
In the afternoon I went to Shanghai Hotel by taxi. At the massage reception I asked for the price and if I remember correctly it was 650RMB.
I got trapped into a body scrub and a pedicure for 70 RMB each. If you want to avoid just insist on the massage and decline any extra they want to give.
Then I was lead to the massage room area and a nice lady was waiting. Relatively large boobs, nice face, tallish and a lovely smile. I guess she was in the beginning of her thirties.
No massage offered here, just straight into the game, she caressed me, kissed my nipples, took off my pijama and started sucking my dick, which she did very well. After a while on with the cap, fucking in some positions on the massage table and finally I asked her to blow me off and I came in her mouth.
That was it, no rush, but also no indication for a second round, she cleaned me, I went to the shower and then paid. Well, an ok experience.
Same evening I was still horny after having seen many beauties on the street and called one of the massage adds in the Shanghai times and ordered a girl for 180 plus 50 for the taxi for 2 hours, massage only, extras to be discussed with the girl. I do not want to mention which one, see later.
A lovely girl came 20 min later, nice smile, good english, beautiful and tall. I undressed completely, she stayed in her street clothes and started giving me a good massage all over my back and after a while always came clother to my ass and my groins with a sensual erotic touch. My cock was attracted by it and when it was really hard she asked me to turn around. With some giggling she offered me "special" service, BBBJ, Full Sex, touching getting naked etc. For 1600RMB. I laughed my ass of and she immediately came down to 1200RMB, wow, still a lot to laugh.
After some chat I offered her 400RMB for a BBBJ with CIM, at the end we agreed to 500 on top of the 230 I already paid, inclusive of full service if I wanted. It is not the best negotiation position when you already have a hard on and a lovely girl in front of you! I knew that before, but forgot again when it was still time.
She undressed and a skinny body with very small tits but huge nipples was shown to me and she said she will do something special, just needs to go to the bathroom. She came out with a glass of hot water and started a hot water BJ, WOW! She was amazing in doing this! Getting balls and cock sucked with hot water is something very enjoyable.
After a while I came in her mouth, I could touch her anywhere during all the time, finger her pussy and so on.
She continued to massage me a bit and offered a second session, but it was just enough for me that day.
At the end she gave me her phone number and offered to come next time for 500 including everything, or for 1000 together with a friend of hers. She was very much insisting to not tell anybody her number bcs she would get problems with the escort agency. I still write it down here, bcs I am sure this happens all the time with the girls from these agencies, it is a hit or miss as I have realised the next day, but this experience coming in another report.
Next report with a new. At least I did not find anything on the thread- sauna experience, but first need some food.
Have fun,
Schaf
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Thanks for the several suggestions that people have given me regarding my earlier post on this matter. I need to make a few things clear;
1. I have been around a while and have never contemplated this situation before but she really does seem genuine.
2. If she isn't then I can accept this....my big head is thinking ! I haven't spent lots of money really and she can't speak any English so it is "free" Chinese with some nice perks thrown in! Especially her cooking and good morning smile.
3. If she does try to mess with me then I will decide what I will do as far as payback, although I don't really want to do this I will do what is necessary to seek retribution.
4. The main problem seems to be her complete lack of experience and lack of awareness of life and if she is faking this then she truly deserves an Oscar for her consistently good performance.
So time will tell and in the meantime I am able to take well meaning criticisms from other people and try to be objective about the future.
Not all girls are the same and I am more optimistic than many other people here it seems.
The least I can do is keep you guys posted about the outcome....so lessons can be learned either way.
[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]Never before have I seen or heard of a guy being led to a room with a girl 'waiting' there - you always get a selection to choose from.[/QUOTE]I did not, i was hoping for some fishbowl or anything, but nothing like it. Was just lead into the room and nothing to choose, maybe bcs it was very busy? Or are there two different places within Shanghai Hotel?
Hi All,
Before I start with day two a practical tip, I am using Xerobank to access ISG here in Shanghai, very helpful, see detailed info on the Proxyserver thread.
After waking up I again felt this pain in my back and some other parts and I called the Donghu Hotel inhouse massage service again. This time another lady showed up, early twenties and really beautiful. She gave me one of the best massages in years, but was absolutely resiting my attempts to give an extra service. So, still beeing horny I called the number of the girl from the previous night, but she did not have time, but offered me a friend of hers.
Half an hour later a stunning beauty came in, kissed me, went down on her knees, put away my bathrobe and started deepthroating me. Wonderful.
On the bed she continued and I finalised over her face. 500RMB and off she was. I asked the girl if I can give away her number and she said yes, but only to "friends". I will call those of you friends who have a serious proof of reports to avoid any possible problems for the girl. PM me if you want the number, sorry for the restriction.
Then I went shopping at the Feng Xiang Clothing and gift market and saw a large sign "Massage 6F" outside the building and decided that shopping causes pain in the back and can only be released by a good massage.
On the 6th floor I was greeted by a young man who asked me if I wanted special massage. Sure I said and was guided to a nice and comfortable room with a locker and a fresh pijama. The room was only for me.
I changed and was guided to the shower, asked what I wanted to drink and after the shower my coke was in the room and I sat down and watched TV for some minutes. It knocked at the door and a parade of three girls came in, all dressed in something that looked like a school uniform, just a bit too small for all of them. All 3 were pretty, all good bodies and I have chosen the one with the nicest smile. I would rank her an 8. Before I have seen her naked, after I would say a 9, bcs her big tits and small ass were phantastic.
She guided me to another room, all very clean and spacious. The room had a large bed and a shower, but nothing for a soapy session, but on the ceiling the facilities for redrobe.
She caressed me immediately when the door was locked, danced a bit in front of the mirrors that were all over, lifted her skirt and showed me her pussy, touched my cock and kissed my nipples.
Then she said something in Chinese and left? What was that? I thought.
A minute later she came in, dressed in something that looked like a too large T-Shirt. Strange. On the bed she started giving me a BBBJ, quality was ok, but nothing to write home about. She never fully undressed, but lifted the shirt and I could touch her everywhere. Over all the time she tried to communicate, but her english was non existent, at least that was what I thought.
I could not figure out what she wanted to tell me by "Megga la". I understand some phrases in quite many languages, but had no clue about this. Until I got it by her hand language. "Megga la" means in her interpretation of english "Make Love"! Which I did not want, I just wanted her to continue with the BJ, which she did until I came over her, so no CIM, but a nice finish.
This was followed by a quite uninspiring back massage, but she tried hard. Then I learned her second phrase in english "Kalle mi", which means "Call me", and she tried to write down her number on one of the mirrors.
Yesyes, I said and then was guided back to my locker room, showered, dressed and when I was about to leave she was running towards me and gave me a piece of paper with her phone number. What the hell shall I do with this? Having a phone conversation consisting of "Megga la" and "Kalle mi"? I will never fully understand the girls anyways.
After a good hour I was back on the street. Would I go back? Yes, sure, the quality of the girls was nice, facilities very clean and nice, atmosphere very friendly. Damage 600RMB.
Address from the business card "The Best Spacial Service", between Fengyang Road and Nanjing road in the building of the Shopping complexe, 6Floor.
Opening hours between 1pm and 2am. Best to find the shopping center as I do not have a number, but the market like center seems to be very famous and is in every city guide.
Today I want to try a soapy, guess 999 is the best option? !
Have fun,
Schaf
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Hi All,
Before I start with day two a practical tip, I am using Xerobank to access ISG here in Shanghai, very helpful, see detailed info on the Proxyserver thread.
After waking up I again felt this pain in my back and some other parts and I called the Donghu Hotel inhouse massage service again. This time another lady showed up, early twenties and really beautiful. She gave me one of the best massages in years, but was absolutely resiting my attempts to give an extra service. So, still beeing horny I called the number of the girl from the previous night, but she did not have time, but offered me a friend of hers.
Half an hour later a stunning beauty came in, kissed me, went down on her knees, put away my bathrobe and started deepthroating me. Wonderful.
On the bed she continued and I finalised over her face. 500RMB and off she was. I asked the girl if I can give away her number and she said yes, but only to "friends". I will call those of you friends who have a serious proof of reports to avoid any possible problems for the girl. PM me if you want the number, sorry for the restriction.
Then I went shopping at the Feng Xiang Clothing and gift market and saw a large sign "Massage 6F" outside the building and decided that shopping causes pain in the back and can only be released by a good massage.
On the 6th floor I was greeted by a young man who asked me if I wanted special massage. Sure I said and was guided to a nice and comfortable room with a locker and a fresh pijama. The room was only for me.
I changed and was guided to the shower, asked what I wanted to drink and after the shower my coke was in the room and I sat down and watched TV for some minutes. It knocked at the door and a parade of three girls came in, all dressed in something that looked like a school uniform, just a bit too small for all of them. All 3 were pretty, all good bodies and I have chosen the one with the nicest smile. I would rank her an 8. Before I have seen her naked, after I would say a 9, bcs her big tits and small ass were phantastic.
She guided me to another room, all very clean and spacious. The room had a large bed and a shower, but nothing for a soapy session, but on the ceiling the facilities for redrobe.
She caressed me immediately when the door was locked, danced a bit in front of the mirrors that were all over, lifted her skirt and showed me her pussy, touched my cock and kissed my nipples.
Then she said something in Chinese and left? What was that? I thought.
A minute later she came in, dressed in something that looked like a too large T-Shirt. Strange. On the bed she started giving me a BBBJ, quality was ok, but nothing to write home about. She never fully undressed, but lifted the shirt and I could touch her everywhere. Over all the time she tried to communicate, but her english was non existent, at least that was what I thought.
I could not figure out what she wanted to tell me by "Megga la". I understand some phrases in quite many languages, but had no clue about this. Until I got it by her hand language. "Megga la" means in her interpretation of english "Make Love"! Which I did not want, I just wanted her to continue with the BJ, which she did until I came over her, so no CIM, but a nice finish.
This was followed by a quite uninspiring back massage, but she tried hard.
Then I learned her second phrase in english "Kalle mi", which means "Call me", and she tried to write down her number on one of the mirrors.
Yesyes, I said and then was guided back to my locker room, showered, dressed and when I was about to leave she was running towards me and gave me a piece of paper with her phone number. What the hell shall I do with this? Having a phone conversation consisting of "Megga la" and "Kalle mi"? I will never fully understand the girls anyways.
After a good hour I was back on the street. Would I go back? Yes, sure, the quality of the girls was nice, facilities very clean and nice, atmosphere very friendly. Damage 600RMB.
Address from the business card "The Best Spacial Service", between Fengyang Road and Nanjing road in the building of the Shopping complexe, 6Floor.
Opening hours between 1pm and 2am. Best to find the shopping center as I do not have a number, but the market like center seems to be very famous and is in every city guide.
Today I want to try a soapy, guess 999 is the best option? !
Have fun,
Schaf
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Last month I went two times to JJ Sauna. Nothing has been reported about it since some time, so here is an update.
Recall : JJ is 209 wulumuqui road next to a bank, big SPA sign. THIS IS THE PART OF THE ROAD WHICH IS NORTH OF YAN AN ROAD, NOT SOUTH! (Same side as Tongren Lu). Taxi drivers often don't know this part of the road, they know only the South part where SH is located. Show them on a map or have someone write it in Chinese. The street is one-way from North to South.
Bad news : the price is now 880 for 90 mn. But you can buy a membership card for 100 RMB, which gives you a 90 RMB discount, so it goes down to 790.
Good News : the selection seems to be better. I came around 10 pm and had the choice between a dozen of girls each time. Competition seems to be taugh, I saw one girl nearly crying because she has not been chosen. She probably had no customer this day. Service was excellent each time: soapy, licking, rimming, BBJ, FJ and the girl's attitude was like in a porn movie. They reminded me I could still keep a hard-on for 90 mn!
It seems like the management has changed.
Was there tonight. Had No 30. She gave a first class massage and HJ was ok. I believe she wanted to indicate that I could fuck her for a surcharge, but I was not up to that and did not ask what exactly for how much. Surprisingly she refused a tip after the massage. Then, they didn't offer the free foot massage any more and also refused to give me Fapiao. But, for RMB228 it is still a good bargain.
[QUOTE=Schaf29]I did not, i was hoping for some fishbowl or anything, but nothing like it. Was just lead into the room and nothing to choose, maybe bcs it was very busy? Or are there two different places within Shanghai Hotel?[/QUOTE]Schaf I was not doubting your reports - fantastic that you have taken the time to write such detailed reports - they are excellent.
It's just that I have been to sauna at Shanghai Hotel a dozen times - mostly between 4pm and 8pm - ALWAYS I have been led to the room on the corner with a selection between 6 to maybe 20 girls - never straight to a room with a single girl waiting.
But lets not forget - this is CHINA - the land of complication and contradiction.
[QUOTE=Nighthawk55]Be careful. What is the age difference? My gut tells me you are being played. She doesn't like to kiss you, but had to get a abortion because of a boyfriend?[/QUOTE]If you have ask you already know the answer. Usually all you have to do is to define the question, when you do you have the answer. This is imho.
[QUOTE=Beijing Fox]It seems like the management has changed.
Was there tonight. Had No 30. She gave a first class massage and HJ was ok. I believe she wanted to indicate that I could fuck her for a surcharge, but I was not up to that and did not ask what exactly for how much. Surprisingly she refused a tip after the massage. Then, they didn't offer the free foot massage any more and also refused to give me Fapiao. But, for RMB228 it is still a good bargain. [/QUOTE]Interesting. I was there a week ago on a Friday. Had to wait a while for a girl. The massage was okay. Nowhere near as good as No. 25 that I had a few weeks ago. That girl (#25) did the blow-in-your-ear-and-show-you-her-crotchless-panties deal. But last week (I don't remember the number), no tip was accepted, and the foot massage was offered at the end. I'll check it out this weekend and see if it's the same as Beijing Fox reported.
Was in Shanghai Thu night/Fri and Sunday night last week. My luck had run out as I just got to sample some of Shangai's delights one night.
Thu night. Tired from flying over half the way across the world and wanted to go some where local (was staying in Pudong) and decided Sacrosa was it. Took a cab to Dongchang Road station and walked down a couple of blocks and found it easy enough. Breezed through the shower, declined the scrub down offered by the boys and after a minute wait in the "waiting room", was led to a line up of around 10 girls. I looked for any one of the recommended girls (#105, #511, #562, #503, #570, #590) but no luck there. So, picked #115 as she was the most engaging with direct eye contact and smiles. She's short, got a tight body with small tits. Good Service with some GFE (would have been really good if I could speak a little Mandarin as she really tried to communicate). BBJ, AR, Doggie, Mish led to 2 pops. The first was CIM (spat into a napkin). She also gave a good deep massage between the rounds. Recommended overall.
Fri afternoon. Having read out Heiting Elite, I had to try it. Got there at 2:30 PM to be told by Bob the Manger that they have some issues with the showers and they are closed till 5 or 6 PM. Suggested that I hang out for a few hours watching TV but I declined, got his card and decided to come back on Sunday (was heading to a different city that evening for 2 nights).
Sun night. Got back to Shanghai at 11PM and was ready for some action! Called Bob first and heard that they were closed for 2 or 3 days. He would not give any explanation, apologized and asked me to call him again in a few days and not to show up before calling. Disappointed, I took a cab to Shanghai Hotel (should have called first) and was told that there "was some police problem" that night and that there was no service at all. Was also warned by the lady at the front desk that most other places were closed too. I decided not to try any other spots, cursed my luck (what are the chances of getting deprived of some action 2 different days there? ) and called in a night. Curious if others had any issues last Sunday (Apr 12th) night.
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Hi everyone!
I've lurked here for a while now, but taking some advice, finally decided to register and get posting. A short blurb (but not too much! ) about myself first.
I'm young and I don't work. I'm completely new to paying for service (though I certainly would like to give it a shot- no pun intended), and I enjoy working the social scene for freebies. I've been in Shanghai since Aug 2008 and I'm leaving in July 2009. That gives me about 2 1/2 months left to make this last little while an absolute blast.
I don't want to contribute nothing, so I'll share what little experience I do have hitting the clubs for freebies.
I'm sure most of you hit up a lot of the clubs already, so I'll just limit myself to my most recent experience: SoHo.
SoHo opened very recently and got rather poor reviews from my friends. Regardless, I decided to give it a shot and try it out with another group of friends. The music is pretty decent; they remix a lot of the older songs from the 90s. Atmosphere is alright- expect a LOT of white plastic wall decor. For those who know the game- there's enough lighting to read pupils, not always, but often enough. Alcohol per glass is a little pricey, but the bottles are cheaper than most of the other places (we picked up Jose Cuervos Gold for 480ish, I think). One of my friends works there and he kept loading us up with free drink vouchers all night, so we didn't need to get the bottle, but I made the call for it anyways. No cover on the night we went (Saturday).
The average girl there is probably a 6-7, expect to find a number of Western girls in there too. For those of us rolling in dough, there are LOTS of lonely local females sitting at the tables. For everyone else, lots of small groups (1-2 mostly) of both locals and foreigners at the bar. I personally opted for this stunning HB8 Colombian. She and her friend joined us. We shared drinks, I danced a little with them. Closed with a kiss and number- I went to Muse2, she stayed at SoHo. Around 4AM she gives me a call to get my apartment address and cabs over.
I'd certainly like to give the "pay scene" a try though, got a list together and everything. Any of you mongers mind taking on an apprentice? My friend is visiting from Canada, so I'd love to take him some place, on recommendation. If any of you have some free time and wouldn't mind bringing along a newbie, send me a message. In the meantime, I'll continue to RTFF
And yes, it is VERY true what they say about Colombian girls.
P7
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[QUOTE=Wordsofwisdom]Thanks for the several suggestions that people have given me regarding my earlier post on this matter. I need to make a few things clear;
1. I have been around a while and have never contemplated this situation before but she really does seem genuine.
2. If she isn't then I can accept this....my big head is thinking ! I haven't spent lots of money really and she can't speak any English so it is "free" Chinese with some nice perks thrown in! Especially her cooking and good morning smile.
3. If she does try to mess with me then I will decide what I will do as far as payback, although I don't really want to do this I will do what is necessary to seek retribution.
4. The main problem seems to be her complete lack of experience and lack of awareness of life and if she is faking this then she truly deserves an Oscar for her consistently good performance.
So time will tell and in the meantime I am able to take well meaning criticisms from other people and try to be objective about the future.
Not all girls are the same and I am more optimistic than many other people here it seems.
The least I can do is keep you guys posted about the outcome....so lessons can be learned either way.[/QUOTE]
W.O.W., for a guy that's been around its quite amazing to me (NO offense meant or intended - please!) that your reaction to this gal is so "newbie" - so to call.
Lke I said, no offense meant or intended - but surely for a guy that's been around, you would have heard plenty about - and probably experienced yourself - very similar stories: The older, wealthier guy and the "quite" innocent waif who's got no other choice but to sell her body. When did such stories ever end up "good?" Yeah, mebbe for a while - but after 1, 2 or even 5 years??? You gotta be kidding!
My advise still stands - enjoy IT for what it's worth - but don't commit too damn much emotion into it. Money, time, advise - sprinkle liberally - but your "heart" - you're too damn old to part with too much of it!
And why did I say this? Look at your statement: "........If she does try to mess with me then I will decide what I will do as far as payback, although I don't really want to do this I will do what is necessary to seek retribution..........." THAT..... is really BAD shit!! These are the words of one who's truly "smitten!" Do remember that the line between Love and Hate (like other human "feelings" like Pain and Pleasure (S&M?), Hope and Despair, Joy and heartbreak etc etc) is SO FINE. You my friend - are really screwed!! Not gonna take much for you to jump the fine line from true love to true hate and all its destructive forces.
YOu've gotta RIGHT NOW rectify your situation and start enjoying your relationship ON YOUR TERMS as per my previous post. You enjoy the relationship and UNDERSTAND that you are getting as much from the relationship as she's getting from it - and you will know that retribution, payback etc is NOT an option. I mean Christ - lighten up a bit.... no lighten up a LOT my friend - this relationship with her cannot and will not be the "one and for all times" love of your life (consider the circumstances!!) So just enjoy it for what its worth. And what is she doing to you that's SOOOOO bad that you're already thinking retribution etc???
Just my very humble opinion - and like I repeat for the 3rd time (showing my age here!!) - I am NOT trying to cause offense.
SEAJ
[QUOTE=Wordsofwisdom]Thanks for the several suggestions that people have given me regarding my earlier post on this matter. I need to make a few things clear;
1. I have been around a while and have never contemplated this situation before but she really does seem genuine.
2. If she isn't then I can accept this....my big head is thinking ! I haven't spent lots of money really and she can't speak any English so it is "free" Chinese with some nice perks thrown in! Especially her cooking and good morning smile.
3. If she does try to mess with me then I will decide what I will do as far as payback, although I don't really want to do this I will do what is necessary to seek retribution.
4. The main problem seems to be her complete lack of experience and lack of awareness of life and if she is faking this then she truly deserves an Oscar for her consistently good performance.
So time will tell and in the meantime I am able to take well meaning criticisms from other people and try to be objective about the future.
Not all girls are the same and I am more optimistic than many other people here it seems.
The least I can do is keep you guys posted about the outcome....so lessons can be learned either way.[/QUOTE]I've been around a bit too and have been exposed to lots of young and nubile Chinese girls in their late teens and early twenties, mostly college students. Apart from that, I've had my share of young working girls too. And the age difference in my case is huge, but it seems to matter not a twit with these young people.
In my experience, young Chinese girls are naive as hell, emotionally four or five years younger than their western counterparts of the same age, and live in a netherworld of tradition and western influence that pressures them enormously and makes them almost schizophrenic. They are steeped in Chinese stories of heartbreak and tragedy and live very active fantasy lives.- almost like western girls in Catholic schools.
These boards often overlook that working girls.- whatever their motives, backgrond or age.- are people too. I've met more than a few who get into the business because it's the only job they can find or some boyfriend had them and left them sans cherry in an environment where virginity is still very highly prized for a respected marriage.
So, it's not surprising that you've found an innocent one.- albeit in a lousy place. The hard part is to decide who you want to be for the girl: lover, savior, father figure, grandfather figure, counselor or halfway house. But that's true in any age defying relationship.
Kind is an all-to-common word in China with a more powerful meaning than in the west. Just be kind to this kid.- give her a good memory and some good experiences whatever happens and don't let these boards corrupt your soul or hers.
Went to try and sign up for a subscription.
And I just realized my credit card expired this month (Yes, I don't use it that often). Now I have to wait until a new one arrives :(
Regardless- I'm curious if there are better times to go to some of parlours or BBSes. I imagine during the evening on any day might be limit your choices some (or severely, if on the weekend), as that's how things usually go when people are free. With that said, what might be the best choice for me and my friend tonight then?
I've read something about ZY BBS being a good introductory for beginners, anyone care to expand? I promise I'll come back with a review- even if it's been done before.
[QUOTE=Beijing Fox]It seems like the management has changed.
Was there tonight. Had No 30. She gave a first class massage and HJ was ok. I believe she wanted to indicate that I could fuck her for a surcharge, but I was not up to that and did not ask what exactly for how much. Surprisingly she refused a tip after the massage. Then, they didn't offer the free foot massage any more and also refused to give me Fapiao. But, for RMB228 it is still a good bargain.[/QUOTE]Was there yesterday, nothing seems changed to me. Good service as always, she accepted (small) tip and I was offered foot massage. They are constructing in the building but thats all I could notice as difference
[QUOTE=Gao Xing]Interesting. I was there a week ago on a Friday. Had to wait a while for a girl. The massage was okay. Nowhere near as good as No. 25 that I had a few weeks ago. That girl (#25) did the blow-in-your-ear-and-show-you-her-crotchless-panties deal. But last week (I don't remember the number), no tip was accepted, and the foot massage was offered at the end. I'll check it out this weekend and see if it's the same as Beijing Fox reported.[/QUOTE]Been to this place before, i advice no 38, very stunning girl, but be careful, she is a "you touch you pay" girl ! Also open to extra fun outside this massage place.
PF
Hi
To add to earlier report, I also visited Shanghai Hotel on Sunday 19th only to be told that no SPECIAL Massage available! That was about 10.30 pm.
In addition to the GP at the weekend there is also the Motor Show a boat Show and Macau week in Shanghai and the place is heaving so suspect the police are clamping down for the duration!
However I did get in at Sacrosa a few days earlier and will post soon.
Pedro 917
[QUOTE=Ed Heres]I've been around a bit too and have been exposed to lots of young and nubile Chinese girls in their late teens and early twenties, mostly college students. Apart from that, I've had my share of young working girls too. And the age difference in my case is huge, but it seems to matter not a twit with these young people.
In my experience, young Chinese girls are naive as hell, emotionally four or five years younger than their western counterparts of the same age, and live in a netherworld of tradition and western influence that pressures them enormously and makes them almost schizophrenic. They are steeped in Chinese stories of heartbreak and tragedy and live very active fantasy lives.- almost like western girls in Catholic schools.
These boards often overlook that working girls.- whatever their motives, backgrond or age.- are people too. I've met more than a few who get into the business because it's the only job they can find or some boyfriend had them and left them sans cherry in an environment where virginity is still very highly prized for a respected marriage.
So, it's not surprising that you've found an innocent one.- albeit in a lousy place. The hard part is to decide who you want to be for the girl: lover, savior, father figure, grandfather figure, counselor or halfway house. But that's true in any age defying relationship.
Kind is an all-to-common word in China with a more powerful meaning than in the west. Just be kind to this kid.- give her a good memory and some good experiences whatever happens and don't let these boards corrupt your soul or hers.[/QUOTE]
I agree with you. I also unexpectedly met some real flowers in the trade in several developing countries, including China. Flowers also grow in mud... It's also true that opening one's heart should not prevent from being realistic, which is not so easy.
Well I have arrived in Shanghai and think a visit to Sacrosa is called for, having RTFF I find the area easily and go into the Plaza/Mall (who's name now escapes me) however the Steak house & coffee shop referred to in the posts is in fact outside in an open area.
So by the time I locate the place I am at the rear of the building so enter by the back passage! (excuse the expression) anyway the doorman have seen it all before so decide to have some fun at my expense by showing me a door which leads to the stairs. Now this must be the fire escape so it is pretty grotty and by the time I get to the 5th floor the sweat is pouring off me as it is rather warm. Anyway at least I am at the right place.
But it is even warmer in Sarcosa and the shower is indeed needed! So after leaving all my belongings in a cubicle and having a shower I am given a sort of Kung Fu outfit to wear and shown to a rest room while the girlies are assembled!
5 minutes later and I am shown a selection of 12-15 girls all of which are attractive however the famous #590 is not amongst them and apparently not avaiable. Decisions, decisions so I go for #105 a young looking shapley girl with reasonable bust and pleasant smile. But really I should know better, experience tells me that an older girl with more experience and not necessarily a good looker nearly always provides a much better time. However the little chap is getting twitchy so common sense goes out the window.
As I am in there before 17.00 hours the price is Yuan 550 after 17.00 hours it goes up to Yuan 780.
Anyway #105 now takes me to a pleasant bedroom and a good time is had by all, plenty of kissing, BBBJ, DATY etc however I would say that the act itself was rather painfull, by no means am I hung like a donkey but a combination of small Chinese condom and a tight pussy nearly made my eyes water! I had my own supply of condoms but these were of course now in the locker!
So in summary Sacrosa seems a safe well run establishment with a good selection of girls at a fixed price. It is also very difficult to tip the girls as your cash is in the locker and once you are dressed you are shown to a payment area in reception to settle up so no opportunity to pay a tip if you wanted to but also more importantly no opportunity to get ripped off.
As for #105 a nice girl, reasonable pop, nice breasts and figure but nothing special.
Pedro 917
Was given some cards outside the hotel with the following numbers on them.
Tianshi Massage Centre
1347267337 (Contact Miss Lulc)
13636616673(Contact Miko)
15801898155
24 hour service to your hotel room, 80 Yuan per hour is claimed on the card, This is for the basic massage. FS will cost more obviously, duno exact prices.
Had her tonight, pretty decent though not stunning. Best move was getting the free foot massage BEFORE the action. Next time trying 30. Got a look at her and she looks like a playful one indeed.
[QUOTE=Ed Heres]
In my experience, young Chinese girls are naive as hell, emotionally four or five years younger than their western counterparts of the same age, and live in a netherworld of tradition and western influence that pressures them enormously and makes them almost schizophrenic. They are steeped in Chinese stories of heartbreak and tragedy and live very active fantasy lives.. Almost like western girls in Catholic schools.
These boards often overlook that working girls.. Whatever their motives, backgrond or age.. Are people too. [/QUOTE]Come one people, most girls in China are naive and dream about marriage. I'd say 85% of them. Of course, in Shanghai and especially in a BBS it might be a little different, but all of us who know young Chinese girls know they get married at 25 / 25, usualy with their first or second boyfriend ever, pay a potograph to do pictures "like the stars" (which by the way is ridiculous) and show them to everyone they see. Then they get into the "babies" pictures etc.
In short they have the sentimental maturity of a 17 year old occidental, or better said, of your mother when she was young. Times have changed in western countries, but girls used to be like that here too.
Anyway, these girls are really easy to pull off because basically they're very naive and Chinese guys are so lame (I'm sorry but it's just the way it is) at the game that they are not used to being seduced, so they don't resist much. (Iy can take them months before they kiss a girl).
But on the downside, getting rid of them can be really complicated, and you can easily hurt them because their level of expectation is somwhere between Disneyland and Heaven = unrealistic.
So act with caution, it can get ugly and whatever you do you'll end up being the ugly bad foreigner that dumped a poor innocent girl.
Second thing: if you date a young Chinese girl, chances are a guy was already "waiting" for her. Most girls have their own "stalker", a guy that she met in High School or University and who is convinced that sincerity and time will end up showing the girl their true value. So basically they ca wait for years and traditionnally end up getting the girl when she feels down, get dumped or can't find a husband. Very common un China.
As I said before, these guys can wait months, years before even trying to hold the girl's hand, so when you arrive and get her in your bed in a matter of days, the Geeks / Stalkers usually get VERY VERY mad. So careful, in some cases they might want to fight. They're usually not very strong, but you don't want to get into any kind of trouble so if a guy gets in the way. When I was at unversity I ended up challenging a guy at Street Fighter. They assume that occidental people suck at computer games, so I ended up crushing him in front of all of his friends. His lost his face and never showed up again.
1 Ask the girl about these guys
2 Tell her it makes you feel uncomfortable and explain
3 Don't rush things
4 If the guys show up too much, just tell the girl you don't want to see her again. She will usually cry, then tell the guy to fuck off and get lost, call you in tears to get back togethern and you will probably never seer about him again.
[QUOTE=Onadlos]Come one people, most girls in China are naive and dream about marriage. I'd say 85% of them. Of course, in Shanghai and especially in a BBS it might be a little different, but all of us who know young Chinese girls ....................Anyway, these girls are really easy to pull off because basically they're very naive and Chinese guys are so lame (I'm sorry but it's just the way it is) at the game that they are not used to being seduced, so they don't resist much. ................and you can easily hurt them because their level of expectation is somwhere between Disneyland and Heaven = unrealistic..............So act with caution, it can get ugly and whatever you do you'll end up being the ugly bad foreigner that dumped a poor innocent girl.[/QUOTE]
Glad that you've pointed some basic truths about the "dating equation" in China and if you don't mind - would like to offer my further take and perspective on this.
First - it is usually NOT good to generalize. Yes, I know that you said 85% etc - but readers here - especially those who's never been to China - or even Asia - is gonna take it at face value and come here with expectations of being able to go fishing in a barrel!! And chances are that these newbies are gonna end up with the "other 15%" as these ARE the very gals who are on the look-out for "opportunities."
Further your and Ed Herres' opinion that the Chinese gals (the 85%) are just soooooo innocent is perhaps also misleading. To me, Chinese gals have way more maturity than their Western counterpart - albeit on and for different "values." I'm talking about *Filial Piety, *Responsibility to Family (to most selling their bodies just to fulfill this), *Actual Plans and willingness to undergo any and all hardship to achieve what they want in life. *Single minded determination to better their lot.
Naïve….? I don’t think so! And in lots of cases, even abrogating their own feelings/values just to achieve what they want. Are you and Ed sure that the gals you met are not doing precisely this – Close eyes, brace, do whatever needed to snare these unmarried, foreign passport holding, wealthy and young guys? Watch out you guys – you may think you’re dealing with “a gal with the maturity of a 17 year old.” But are you REALLY??
On the other side of the equation, I would also like to caution you against taking too much advantage of Chinese maidens. Yes, I was once young also and also love being able to count off another conquest; but really, in China – the odds are just stacked way too much in our favor. And I would like to remind you that Mother Nature will frown if you’re only doing this – reeling off another one night stand and/or just to satisfy your carnal desires. You are dealing with REAL persons here – one who’s also got feelings, have pride and dignity – and one who’s comparatively just so much lower on the economic totem pole. Me-thinks that it’s not very nice and too unconscionable. If on the other hand, your “Intentions are Honorable,” then I say – go right ahead.
I apologize to you and one and all for being judgmental/practically proselytizing – but even your statement “…….Chinese guys are so lame (I'm sorry but it's just the way it is) at the game that they are not used to being seduced……” Points out to how unequal the whole equation is. NOT nice to take too much advantage – karma and all that!
[QUOTE]
Second thing: if you date a young Chinese girl, chances are a guy was already "waiting" for her. Most girls have their own "stalker
1 Ask the girl about these guys
2 Tell her it makes you feel uncomfortable and explain
3 Don't rush things
4 If the guys show up too much, just tell the girl you don't want to see her again. She will usually cry, then tell the guy to fuck off and get lost, call you in tears to get back togethern and you will probably never seer about him again.[/QUOTE]
Now this is the second thing that y’all really got to watch out for. You make it sound that this complication about boyfriends is sooooo easy to take care of. Well, let met tell you, in most cases – IT AIN”T and can easily get you in deep shit or even worse!
Face, my friend – Face is all important to all of us, but more so in China. I read how you disposed of your “rival” by defeating him at a computer game (Street fighter) and I really really shake my head!! Good God Almighty – you’re outlining childish games – whilst things that involve “Matters of the heart and face” are way more serious. Crimes of passion – these are always grizzly and violent.
Sorry for going on and on – and of course all above only IMHO
SEAJ
[QUOTE=Onadlos]Come one people, most girls in China are naive and dream about marriage. I'd say 85% of them. Of course, in Shanghai and especially in a BBS it might be a little different, but all of us who know young Chinese girls know they get married at 25 / 25, usualy with their first or second boyfriend ever, pay a potograph to do pictures "like the stars" (which by the way is ridiculous) and show them to everyone they see. Then they get into the "babies" pictures etc.
In short they have the sentimental maturity of a 17 year old occidental, or better said, of your mother when she was young. Times have changed in western countries, but girls used to be like that here too.
Anyway, these girls are really easy to pull off because basically they're very naive and Chinese guys are so lame (I'm sorry but it's just the way it is) at the game that they are not used to being seduced, so they don't resist much. (Iy can take them months before they kiss a girl).
But on the downside, getting rid of them can be really complicated, and you can easily hurt them because their level of expectation is somwhere between Disneyland and Heaven = unrealistic.
So act with caution, it can get ugly and whatever you do you'll end up being the ugly bad foreigner that dumped a poor innocent girl.
Second thing: if you date a young Chinese girl, chances are a guy was already "waiting" for her. Most girls have their own "stalker", a guy that she met in High School or University and who is convinced that sincerity and time will end up showing the girl their true value. So basically they ca wait for years and traditionnally end up getting the girl when she feels down, get dumped or can't find a husband. Very common un China.
As I said before, these guys can wait months, years before even trying to hold the girl's hand, so when you arrive and get her in your bed in a matter of days, the Geeks / Stalkers usually get VERY VERY mad. So careful, in some cases they might want to fight. They're usually not very strong, but you don't want to get into any kind of trouble so if a guy gets in the way. When I was at unversity I ended up challenging a guy at Street Fighter. They assume that occidental people suck at computer games, so I ended up crushing him in front of all of his friends. His lost his face and never showed up again.
1 Ask the girl about these guys
2 Tell her it makes you feel uncomfortable and explain
3 Don't rush things
4 If the guys show up too much, just tell the girl you don't want to see her again. She will usually cry, then tell the guy to fuck off and get lost, call you in tears to get back togethern and you will probably never seer about him again.[/QUOTE]You are too naive.
You are the one that is being played.
Majority of chinese girl you met simply are attached to you because of the following
1- $$$$
2- a chance to move out of country.
That is the truth.
Thank you for commenting on Onadlos' musings on young Chinses girls and bringing a sense of balance and understanding with your sage advice. This ABC appreciates and endorses your added prospectives. PP
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]Glad that you've pointed some basic truths about the "dating equation" in China and if you don't mind - would like to offer my further take and perspective on this.
First - it is usually NOT good to generalize. Yes, I know that you said 85% etc - but readers here - especially those who's never been to China - or even Asia - is gonna take it at face value and come here with expectations of being able to go fishing in a barrel!! And chances are that these newbies are gonna end up with the "other 15%" as these ARE the very gals who are on the look-out for "opportunities." .....................................................
Face, my friend – Face is all important to all of us, but more so in China. I read how you disposed of your “rival” by defeating him at a computer game (Street fighter) and I really really shake my head!! Good God Almighty – you’re outlining childish games – whilst things that involve “Matters of the heart and face” are way more serious. Crimes of passion – these are always grizzly and violent.
Sorry for going on and on – and of course all above only IMHO
SEAJ[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Project Seven]Hi everyone!
I've lurked here for a while now, but taking some advice, finally decided to register and get posting. A short blurb (but not too much! ) about myself first.
I'm young and I don't work. I'm completely new to paying for service (though I certainly would like to give it a shot- no pun intended), and I enjoy working the social scene for freebies. I've been in Shanghai since Aug 2008 and I'm leaving in July 2009. That gives me about 2 1/2 months left to make this last little while an absolute blast.
I don't want to contribute nothing, so I'll share what little experience I do have hitting the clubs for freebies.
I'm sure most of you hit up a lot of the clubs already, so I'll just limit myself to my most recent experience: SoHo.
SoHo opened very recently and got rather poor reviews from my friends. Regardless, I decided to give it a shot and try it out with another group of friends. The music is pretty decent; they remix a lot of the older songs from the 90s. Atmosphere is alright- expect a LOT of white plastic wall decor. For those who know the game- there's enough lighting to read pupils, not always, but often enough. Alcohol per glass is a little pricey, but the bottles are cheaper than most of the other places (we picked up Jose Cuervos Gold for 480ish, I think). One of my friends works there and he kept loading us up with free drink vouchers all night, so we didn't need to get the bottle, but I made the call for it anyways. No cover on the night we went (Saturday).
The average girl there is probably a 6-7, expect to find a number of Western girls in there too. For those of us rolling in dough, there are LOTS of lonely local females sitting at the tables. For everyone else, lots of small groups (1-2 mostly) of both locals and foreigners at the bar. I personally opted for this stunning HB8 Colombian. She and her friend joined us. We shared drinks, I danced a little with them. Closed with a kiss and number- I went to Muse2, she stayed at SoHo. Around 4AM she gives me a call to get my apartment address and cabs over.
I'd certainly like to give the "pay scene" a try though, got a list together and everything. Any of you mongers mind taking on an apprentice? My friend is visiting from Canada, so I'd love to take him some place, on recommendation. If any of you have some free time and wouldn't mind bringing along a newbie, send me a message. In the meantime, I'll continue to RTFF
And yes, it is VERY true what they say about Colombian girls.
P7[/QUOTE]Soho. Zai na li? Do post the locations of places you visit. Is it the place on Sinan Lu?
Let us know when you have PM access. We're always out and about.
WGS
NB. Closed saunas. Great incentive to get the tel numbers of girls you like. They still need cash and quite happily visit. Or let me visit. Cheaper, longer, more fun.
[QUOTE=Low Dai]Just a quick report. Recommendation for a girl who can be legendary, check out #911 at 999. Lanlan is the one I mentioned from the Songshan shop. Very cute face, nice tits, exceptional attitude and oral skills. You will have a good time. Definitely in the zone of Stars (PSE or GFE).[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tip, I saw her today. She indeed is a nymfo. Not a stunner, but cute face, nice rack, but belly/ass portion not the best.
I would also recommend her for 1 time good fun, but 2nd time is questionable. She did not allow 2nd pop.
I want to put up a question for debate.
With most oil massages, you'll get a 'prostate massage'. If you go to a sauna, in most cases you'll get an anal rimming. I assume therefore that anal stimulation is a standard element of Chinese foreplay and/or sexual activity.
If so, why is it so difficult to find a Chinese girl who doesn't object to take it up the ass. Yes, there are some who do it, but I found the majority reacts shocked if you just mention it.
Can anybody understand the logic behind this? :-)
Arrived in SH and despite the requisite tired-from-the-flight biz I just couldn't help myself and wandered out for some fun on Wednesday night.
I headed to WP/B2 and was disappointed to discover it was closed that evening. Red sign on the door (I can't read and can barely speak). Has this been a normal occurrence? I will definitely try again while I'm here. And report back.
So. Being just down the street I headed to Sarcosa. It's been over a year but I managed to use my monger-radar and found the place with no problem. I arrived around 930-10PM. Same place same feel all good. Was presented with a line-up of 10 girls after waiting for next to no time at all. I picked #309. Sweet girl. Good proportions. Not shaved down there but sweet to the taste. She was extremely clean. By that I mean she wiped me down sprayed what-have-you alot. I didn't mind. I suppose it's good to know she's being careful. I was worried at first that she might be a bit restrictive since she seemed so clean-aware. But my worries were put to rest. As soon as the catbath began. The little animal in her came out. What followed as some passionate dfk. Well received daty (apparently she loves me know hehe). And the full-deed. We took our time and didn't have time for a 2nd round so after cleaning me up we just lay there cuddling. One thing I noted which got me hard again in flash was the way she cleaned my little friend with a hot towel. The combination of gentle squeezing and stroking. Yikes! I had to concentrate hard to get him down again so I didn't wander back into the shower room with a hardon!
Anyway. A night worth a good welcoming back to Shanghai!
I'm only here for 2weeks. So I have to get crackin' on visiting my old haunts. 3 places I visited last year appear not to have been reviewed in almost that long. I'll do my best to track them down again and give a well deserved update.
Happy mongerin' g.
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There seem to be something going on these couple weeks. Quite a few places I normally go to are closed down. Does anyone have any insights?
[QUOTE=Belicoso]Sun night. Got back to Shanghai at 11PM and was ready for some action! Called Bob first and heard that they were closed for 2 or 3 days. He would not give any explanation, apologized and asked me to call him again in a few days and not to show up before calling. Disappointed, I took a cab to Shanghai Hotel (should have called first) and was told that there "was some police problem" that night and that there was no service at all. Was also warned by the lady at the front desk that most other places were closed too. I decided not to try any other spots, cursed my luck (what are the chances of getting deprived of some action 2 different days there? ) and called in a night. Curious if others had any issues last Sunday (Apr 12th) night. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Pointpanic]Thank you for commenting on Onadlos' musings on young Chinses girls and bringing a sense of balance and understanding with your sage advice. This ABC appreciates and endorses your added prospectives. PP[/QUOTE]
Thank you for the kind words. All in all, I think I've been spending WAYYYY too much time on ISG, but there's always things that jars me into writing as I know that directly/indirectly/immediately/sooner or later, it will affect me.
Too many guys go into China without even trying to understand what it's all about - and end up screwing things up for the rest of us guys who are "in situ" so to call.
But then, even those who are "in situ" also gets lulled into a sense of complacency or worse - arrogance. They get so used to being treated as practically "masters" - simply because of their economic superiority - that they think that whatever they think or do is going to be welcomed and received with praise. That they are entitled to shit anywhere they like as their shit don't stink no more - never mind that "back home' they are nothing more than an ordinary Joe or even less.
Yes China is very welcoming of the foreign visitor - even those who comes just to monger - and yes the Chinese will defer to the wishes of those who comes in bringing $$, have enviable lives - and even avoid confrontation with Westerners with comparatively and generally larger physique (and probably go to the gym more often). But it is SO WRONG how some BSD's act and thinks in China. Would these guys get away with it back home? Or in some other prosperous countries? Think Japan where the gaijin monger practically needs to beg to get any kind of service.
Now, I am NOT saying that all furreners into China acts like the assholes I've described - far from it - and IMHO, most of them are very decent people. I've met and become friends with a helluva lot of these China visitors - but even for these, I've seen how they've evolved into true assholes. Thinking nothing about what others (especially Chinese counterparties) think AND feel.
I've written this just as a bit of a reminder and certainly do NOT mean/want to cause any offense to anybody and this all is of course only IMHO.
Thank Y'all for putting up with my diatribe.
SEAJ
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]
But then, even those who are "in situ" also gets lulled into a sense of complacency or worse - arrogance. They get so used to being treated as practically "masters" - simply because of their economic superiority - that they think that whatever they think or do is going to be welcomed and received with praise. That they are entitled to shit anywhere they like as their shit don't stink no more - never mind that "back home' they are nothing more than an ordinary Joe or even less.
Yes China is very welcoming of the foreign visitor - even those who comes just to monger - and yes the Chinese will defer to the wishes of those who comes in bringing $$, have enviable lives - and even avoid confrontation with Westerners with comparatively and generally larger physique (and probably go to the gym more often). But it is SO WRONG how some BSD's act and thinks in China. Would these guys get away with it back home? Or in some other prosperous countries? Think Japan where the gaijin monger practically needs to beg to get any kind of service.
SEAJ[/QUOTE]
And with pride comes arrogance. Consider Germany in the 1940's, when all a GI had to do was to say, "Fraulein, Commen Zie." And maybe a couple of Hershey bars, ciggies or cans of food. Times changed. Japan had special high class ***** corps herding GI's into bath houses and hotels. And Taiwan was wide open with choice Taiwan pussy during the Vietnam war. An Army officer's paradise for R&R. (Even better for civilians?)
If the Chinese become wealthier, times may change for asshole mongers?
CG
[QUOTE=Clean Gene]And with pride comes arrogance. Consider Germany in the 1940's, when all a GI had to do was to say, "Fraulein, Commen Zie." And maybe a couple of Hershey bars, ciggies or cans of food. Times changed. Japan had special high class ***** corps herding GI's into bath houses and hotels. And Taiwan was wide open with choice Taiwan pussy during the Vietnam war. An Army officer's paradise for R&R. (Even better for civilians?)
If the Chinese become wealthier, times may change for asshole mongers?
CG[/QUOTE]I do not speak or understand Chinese. So my knowledge is limited, but I spent a few days with upper middle class Chinese in China (successful business people and/or University graduates) and observed how they treated their inferiors. No need for us foreigners to feel guilty! They treat their own people like shit. I believe the situation is similar in Thailand and Burma. I arrive there with some money, then I just adapt to the local “educated” class behavior and the “lower” class will even expect it from me. It does not matter, that at home my status may not be so high at all. Nobody would even believe me. That is what sex tourism is all about. Enjoy as long as you can!
[QUOTE=Tiger43]I do not speak or understand Chinese. So my knowledge is limited, but I spent a few days with upper middle class Chinese in China (successful business people and/or University graduates) and observed how they treated their inferiors. No need for us foreigners to feel guilty! They treat their own people like shit. I believe the situation is similar in Thailand and Burma. I arrive there with some money, then I just adapt to the local “educated” class behavior and the “lower” class will even expect it from me. It does not matter, that at home my status may not be so high at all. Nobody would even believe me. That is what sex tourism is all about. Enjoy as long as you can![/QUOTE]
Good God - I hope you are NOT meaning to say what your writing seem to indicate - that yes - 100% OK for foreigners to go ahead and keep on acting like arrogant asshole and for the BSD's to keep on throwing money around at the Chinese.
That is precisely what I am trying to convince guys here NOT to do. And your description of your suppossed "upper Middle class" friends - I'm not in any position to comment one way or the other - but when did 2 wrongs make a right?
SEAJ
[QUOTE=World Guy Sh]NB. Closed saunas. Great incentive to get the tel numbers of girls you like. They still need cash and quite happily visit. Or let me visit. Cheaper, longer, more fun.[/QUOTE]Hmmm. Just texted my lovely at sacrosa, she told me she is not working these days, has that thing now also affected this place? Anybody knows what is going on, Shanghai Motor Show and May holiday should not have that large impact, or am I wrong?
FA
[QUOTE=Brooklyn Cyclone]There seem to be something going on these couple weeks. Quite a few places I normally go to are closed down. Does anyone have any insights?[/QUOTE]27 year veteran here (means I'm old), finally discovered the site, paid Jackson his (more than reasonable) twenty bucks, RTFFed and today I present my first post. Thursday night SH is in business. No chorus line, no rope (big deal), RUSHED service, assigned girl a strong 8. She was nice to look at, but if I blinked I might miss her. Price 650. Might repeat for an easy catch.
A friend of mine (HK Chinese) was in Peacock (Tietu Lu) a couple of days ago. He said, police just came in and told everybody to 'pack-up' and leave. No papers checked. He assumes Peacock didn't pay their protection money properly, because the other places next to Peacock were left alone, but looking at other posts, there may be a city-wide scheme behind it.
[quote=se asia joe]thank you for the kind words. all in all, i think i've been spending wayyyy too much time on isg, but there's always things that jars me into writing as i know that directly/indirectly/immediately/sooner or later, it will affect me.
too many guys go into china without even trying to understand what it's all about - and end up screwing things up for the rest of us guys who are "in situ" so to call.
but then, even those who are "in situ" also gets lulled into a sense of complacency or worse - arrogance. they get so used to being treated as practically "masters" - simply because of their economic superiority - that they think that whatever they think or do is going to be welcomed and received with praise. that they are entitled to shit anywhere they like as their shit don't stink no more - never mind that "back home' they are nothing more than an ordinary joe or even less.
yes china is very welcoming of the foreign visitor - even those who comes just to monger - and yes the chinese will defer to the wishes of those who comes in bringing $$, have enviable lives - and even avoid confrontation with westerners with comparatively and generally larger physique (and probably go to the gym more often). but it is so wrong how some bsd's act and thinks in china. would these guys get away with it back home? or in some other prosperous countries? think japan where the gaijin monger practically needs to beg to get any kind of service.
now, i am not saying that all furreners into china acts like the assholes i've described - far from it - and imho, most of them are very decent people. i've met and become friends with a helluva lot of these china visitors - but even for these, i've seen how they've evolved into true assholes. thinking nothing about what others (especially chinese counterparties) think and feel.
i've written this just as a bit of a reminder and certainly do not mean/want to cause any offense to anybody and this all is of course only imho.
thank y'all for putting up with my diatribe.
seaj[/quote]just to offer a different view, from one that has been living in china for a good number of years now. you have a very valid point in that we "expats" have developed a rudeness (you call it arrogance), that would be less than acceptable in any western countries. when i travel abroad, i have to remind myself i am no longer in china and temper my behaviour. i agree with you that many of the long-term expats have developed a pattern of behaviour that on the surface seems less thoughtful. my perspective on why that is so.
i don't believe its because we think we are economically superior. in point of fact, many of these chinese have come by immense amounts of wealth, but in my opinion, in most cases through no inspiring stroke of genius. the bought property in a protected market, they bought stocks in a manipulated stock exchange, the entered into businesses with secured government backing, they stole money or took bribes. they made their money off the backs of the american consumer, stealing technology, and yes the westerners gave it all to them. but even this, admittedly stereotyping, does not suggest to me the attitude exhibited by westerners.
rather, it is the absolute arrogance, rudeness and daily incompetency of dealing with the chinese on daily basis. their pusing and shoving, cutting in front in lines, cutting off cars, spitting everywhere, the noises they make when eating, farting in public, walking into people, their dogs sh---ing on the sidewalk, throwing their garbage on the sidewalk, lack of any type of reasonable service in most retail outlets.
many of us who work with chinese, experience long days, 12 hours plus, home companies that provide us 2% annual salary increases while 8 hour a day chinese insist and get 15% or better. and in case the suggestion is that they come from a lower base, an "experienced" chinese engineer costs as much as a usa with more years of experience. and it takes 3 of them to perform the same job in twice the time. the "high" flyer chinese professionals are arrogant in their self importance, with far less ability than a western peer of equal level, and at the first sign of stress head for the door to attain an even higher salary from the next company. the new labor laws virtually make it impossible to fire any worthless individual with senority, and even to get rid of them, one always pays. then there is the corruption, where a full time audit staff could work to uncover their kickbacks, gratuities, related party transactions. not that one would get a chinese audit staff to do so, as they would never report it. and i won't even get into their total disregard for any human being other than themselves, from polluting the environment (i am not a tree-hugger either), to setting off fireworks at all hours of the night, to stinking up the whole apartment complex as they cook their rotten fish. not to forget the wonderful dinners they serve of boiled camel ass, snake bones, donkey penis and industrial toxic waste (they call white wine)
the list of things that could be cited in regards to chinese behaviour could fill volumes, but after awhile, one does begin to behave like them. i like my size in relation to them, when they walk into me, my size can send them flying. i enjoy, pushing them out of line when they cut in front of me. that rudeness is the chinese way and suggest perhaps we are only adapting.
not to forget the purpose of the forum, then the girls. getting a chinese girl of any age, or marital status, is not a problem. getting rid of one is the challenge. and for the most part, the girls are the only bright spot on the chinese front. true gf are plentiful and the only reason to p4p is so you don't have to be hooked to one girl. once you have a gf though watch out, her male friends will discriminate against her because she is going out with a foreigner, they will actually seek "loans" from her because of her rich bf. many of the cutiest, are flat chested, which is sometimes hard to discover until the padded bra comes off. have to admit though, everyone i've been with eventuates into a sexual adventurer. conversation of a meaningful nature is completely lacking and find i move on more out of boredom than anything else.
finally the basic premise that we foreigners will eventually ruin china, because of our behaviour. i don't agree with that, the chinese will cater to us only so long as we serve a purpose. that purpose and tolerance dictated by the government. once the government decides foreigners are no longer valued, the whole tolerance will evaporate. even in the last couple of years, i've seen a major shift in the value placed on the foreign advisors. as a population we are not liked here in china, we are required. the chinese people as a population don't love us, never have, they want what we have, and for that they need us. today. their fake courtesy in social settings, their apparant deference to us, one has to be here awhile to see what they really think. even the little gifts they give to foreigners, they would never give to a chinese person, all that psuedo jade, pictures, they call it tourist junk for the foreigners. trinkets to the indians.
i am here for the money, plain and simple. with a degree in chinese studies, what i once thought was an intriguing gentle culture, i see now to be a very opportunistic culture. think i am too harsh. who's picture is on all the money and hangs above the great gate overlooking tianamin square? mao, the single biggest mass murderer in world history. stalin and hitler were absolute amateurs to what this man did, and he is their icon. and don't be so niave to think there is a separation between government, business and the people. the best and brightest join the communist party, they are all part of the system. arrogant and rude, maybe so, but feel i fit right in to the chinese system. my opinion and value yours, thanks
regards
matius
[QUOTE=Beijing Fox]A friend of mine (HK Chinese) was in Peacock (Tietu Lu) a couple of days ago. He said, police just came in and told everybody to 'pack-up' and leave. No papers checked. He assumes Peacock didn't pay their protection money properly, because the other places next to Peacock were left alone, but looking at other posts, there may be a city-wide scheme behind it.[/QUOTE]I was one of the unlucky buggers who was there during the big raid a few weeks ago on a Friday night about 6:30. I walked in and they showed me a menu with all the original stuff blocked out. Was led downstairs and one of the guys led me to the first room on the right, as I was walking in the room 3 cops were in there. WTF? ! Anyway, one of the cops just screamed at me and told me to get out. I left and walked our rather briskly.
First off, I didn't freak out totally. But I'd say it was 6 on the nervous scale from 1-10. Secondly, thanks to the Peacock management for using me as phoney 'bait'. Thirdly, based on that. I will never go back to Peacock again. And finally, I'm glad I didn't leave work early as planned, as I probably would have been caught with my hard rod up in vertical mode and my fingers in some chicks ****. And detained.
Some good things coming out of all this is that I've been exploring and finding more 'legit' places that have most girls who give an oily hand. One place I found last night is 'Baihui Massage' at #376-1 Nandang Lu (second floor. Says 'Massage' on huge signage), just a left turn coming out of the Hengshen Lu tunnel that becomes Cao Xi lu. Downside is the girls arent the prettiest, and the environment aint the most posh but if you want a quick and dirty HR. Maybe worth the trip. Ask for #7 from An Hui. She'll try to 'stiff' you for 200 tip, but don't buy into that. I payed 128 for 1 hour oil massge, and tipped 100 for a decent HJ and some titty sucking.
Another quick and dirty place is right down from Tertiary on Shaan Xi Lu. Walk away from Zhao Jia Bang Lu towards Jian Guo Lu. Its in the middle of that cluster of beauty salons. Forget the exact name but they advertise as an 'Australian Massage' place. Somewhat green signage. Ask for the 'for men only' oil massage. I think it's like 228 rmb (yes a bit steep). First few times there I get a nice oil rub and ass massage. I was able to get an HR from 3 girls (#10, #12, and the other I forgot). Most interesting thing is that I did not give a tip, nor was I haggled for one. Again, girls are not the prettiest. But sans tip was OK for that time. Lately I've struck out as I was denied an HJ. Since then I have stopped going.
I hope more guys post info on these little places. Its my forte, too chicken to go to any saunas and such.
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[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]Good God -
That is precisely what I am trying to convince guys here NOT to do. And your description of your suppossed "upper Middle class" friends - I'm not in any position to comment one way or the other - but when did 2 wrongs make a right?
SEAJ[/QUOTE]
I think I may have run into a few of these Chinese.
(1) A cousin of mine (Chinese off spring of my grandpa) told me a friend of his was coming to the States and that I should give him some money ($500 for him and $500 for his friend). Seemed strange. The friend called. I took him out to lunch a couple of days later. He told me he had helped my cousin big time. That he was pissed that I didn't take him shopping the day before and he had a bad time getting around. That in Beijing, he ate every day of the week at a far better restaurant than the one I chose. And then proceeded to order every expensive dish on the menu. He then said he wanted MONEY! MONEY! MONEY! I had the left over food packed up and sent him home with the food. And I never saw the cousin again.
(2) A stranger called my private number and asked to be picked up because he had a "secret message" from a Chinese General (an old veteran and a really good guy). His 'message' was that the General wanted admission for his daughter and her "boyfriend" in a certain California University (without the usual admission requirements of course). Then he took me into the restaurant and treated me quite rudely to show his guests his importance. I simply turned on my heel and left. (I very nearly knocked the table across the room.) I did relay the message, and the girl and 'boyfriend' were duly admitted to the designated university.
I have a few other flagrant examples, but it hurts me to even think of them.
CG
[quote=matius]just to offer a different view, from one that has been living in china for a good number of years now. you have a very valid point in that we "expats" have developed a rudeness (you call it arrogance), that would be less than acceptable in any western countries. when i travel abroad, i have to remind myself i am no longer in china and temper my behaviour. i agree with you that many of the long-term expats have developed a pattern of behaviour that on the surface seems less thoughtful. my perspective on why that is so.
i don't believe its because we think we are economically superior. in point of fact, many of these chinese have come by immense amounts of wealth, but in my opinion, in most cases through no inspiring stroke of genius. the bought property in a protected market, they bought stocks in a manipulated stock exchange, the entered into businesses with secured government backing, they stole money or took bribes. they made their money off the backs of the american consumer, stealing technology, and yes the westerners gave it all to them. but even this, admittedly stereotyping, does not suggest to me the attitude exhibited by westerners.
rather, it is the absolute arrogance, rudeness and daily incompetency of dealing with the chinese on daily basis. their pusing and shoving, cutting in front in lines, cutting off cars, spitting everywhere, the noises they make when eating, farting in public, walking into people, their dogs sh---ing on the sidewalk, throwing their garbage on the sidewalk, lack of any type of reasonable service in most retail outlets.
many of us who work with chinese, experience long days, 12 hours plus, home companies that provide us 2% annual salary increases while 8 hour a day chinese insist and get 15% or better. and in case the suggestion is that they come from a lower base, an "experienced" chinese engineer costs as much as a usa with more years of experience. and it takes 3 of them to perform the same job in twice the time. the "high" flyer chinese professionals are arrogant in their self importance, with far less ability than a western peer of equal level, and at the first sign of stress head for the door to attain an even higher salary from the next company. the new labor laws virtually make it impossible to fire any worthless individual with senority, and even to get rid of them, one always pays. then there is the corruption, where a full time audit staff could work to uncover their kickbacks, gratuities, related party transactions. not that one would get a chinese audit staff to do so, as they would never report it. and i won't even get into their total disregard for any human being other than themselves, from polluting the environment (i am not a tree-hugger either), to setting off fireworks at all hours of the night, to stinking up the whole apartment complex as they cook their rotten fish. not to forget the wonderful dinners they serve of boiled camel ass, snake bones, donkey penis and industrial toxic waste (they call white wine)
the list of things that could be cited in regards to chinese behaviour could fill volumes, but after awhile, one does begin to behave like them. i like my size in relation to them, when they walk into me, my size can send them flying. i enjoy, pushing them out of line when they cut in front of me. that rudeness is the chinese way and suggest perhaps we are only adapting.
not to forget the purpose of the forum, then the girls. getting a chinese girl of any age, or marital status, is not a problem. getting rid of one is the challenge. and for the most part, the girls are the only bright spot on the chinese front. true gf are plentiful and the only reason to p4p is so you don't have to be hooked to one girl. once you have a gf though watch out, her male friends will discriminate against her because she is going out with a foreigner, they will actually seek "loans" from her because of her rich bf. many of the cutiest, are flat chested, which is sometimes hard to discover until the padded bra comes off. have to admit though, everyone i've been with eventuates into a sexual adventurer. conversation of a meaningful nature is completely lacking and find i move on more out of boredom than anything else.
finally the basic premise that we foreigners will eventually ruin china, because of our behaviour. i don't agree with that, the chinese will cater to us only so long as we serve a purpose. that purpose and tolerance dictated by the government. once the government decides foreigners are no longer valued, the whole tolerance will evaporate. even in the last couple of years, i've seen a major shift in the value placed on the foreign advisors. as a population we are not liked here in china, we are required. the chinese people as a population don't love us, never have, they want what we have, and for that they need us. today. their fake courtesy in social settings, their apparant deference to us, one has to be here awhile to see what they really think. even the little gifts they give to foreigners, they would never give to a chinese person, all that psuedo jade, pictures, they call it tourist junk for the foreigners. trinkets to the indians.
i am here for the money, plain and simple. with a degree in chinese studies, what i once thought was an intriguing gentle culture, i see now to be a very opportunistic culture. think i am too harsh. who's picture is on all the money and hangs above the great gate overlooking tianamin square? mao, the single biggest mass murderer in world history. stalin and hitler were absolute amateurs to what this man did, and he is their icon. and don't be so niave to think there is a separation between government, business and the people. the best and brightest join the communist party, they are all part of the system. arrogant and rude, maybe so, but feel i fit right in to the chinese system. my opinion and value yours, thanks
regards
matius[/quote]
great post, but two wrongs dont make a rite unlike maths.
and all i can see is really a bit of sour grapes on your part.
enjoy china i do.
wizard
[QUOTE=Fastm5]You are too naive.
You are the one that is being played.
Majority of chinese girl you met simply are attached to you because of the following
1- $$$$
2- a chance to move out of country.
That is the truth.[/QUOTE]Well I might be yes. But 2 of the girls I'm talking about were RICH and I mean RICH, so I don't thik they got into the VISA / MONEY issue. Like South said, it's more a face thing. In some social circles, going out with a tall and good looking foreigner increases your "face" value as much as a LV bag does.
About Street Fighter, it's not me, it's the guy who wanted to challenge me. I now realize my comment looks a bit pretentious. But don't get me wrong, I was just being sarcastic.
And when I say Chinese guys suck at the game, I should have said "the rules are no the same". Chinese people focus, as you mentioned, on the long term. True for guys, true for girls also.
But come one, you sound like China is a dangerous country and everyone you meet is going to bring you troube what I meant by 85% was: 85% of the girls will not bring you troubel. But the 15% that will will be in bars and BBS.
[quote=matius]just to offer a different view, from one that has been living in china for a good number of years now. you have a very valid point in that we "expats" have developed a rudeness (you call it arrogance), that would be less than acceptable in any western countries. when i travel abroad, i have to remind myself i am no longer in china and temper my behaviour. i agree with you that many of the long-term expats have developed a pattern of behaviour that on the surface seems less thoughtful. my perspective on why that is so.
i don't believe its because we think we are economically superior. in point of fact, many of these chinese have come by immense amounts of wealth, but in my opinion, in most cases through no inspiring stroke of genius. the bought property in a protected market, they bought stocks in a manipulated stock exchange, the entered into businesses with secured government backing, they stole money or took bribes. they made their money off the backs of the american consumer, stealing technology, and yes the westerners gave it all to them. but even this, admittedly stereotyping, does not suggest to me the attitude exhibited by westerners.
rather, it is the absolute arrogance, rudeness and daily incompetency of dealing with the chinese on daily basis. their pusing and shoving, cutting in front in lines, cutting off cars, spitting everywhere, the noises they make when eating, farting in public, walking into people, their dogs sh---ing on the sidewalk, throwing their garbage on the sidewalk, lack of any type of reasonable service in most retail outlets.
many of us who work with chinese, experience long days, 12 hours plus, home companies that provide us 2% annual salary increases while 8 hour a day chinese insist and get 15% or better. and in case the suggestion is that they come from a lower base, an "experienced" chinese engineer costs as much as a usa with more years of experience. and it takes 3 of them to perform the same job in twice the time. the "high" flyer chinese professionals are arrogant in their self importance, with far less ability than a western peer of equal level, and at the first sign of stress head for the door to attain an even higher salary from the next company. the new labor laws virtually make it impossible to fire any worthless individual with senority, and even to get rid of them, one always pays. then there is the corruption, where a full time audit staff could work to uncover their kickbacks, gratuities, related party transactions. not that one would get a chinese audit staff to do so, as they would never report it. and i won't even get into their total disregard for any human being other than themselves, from polluting the environment (i am not a tree-hugger either), to setting off fireworks at all hours of the night, to stinking up the whole apartment complex as they cook their rotten fish. not to forget the wonderful dinners they serve of boiled camel ass, snake bones, donkey penis and industrial toxic waste (they call white wine)
the list of things that could be cited in regards to chinese behaviour could fill volumes, but after awhile, one does begin to behave like them. i like my size in relation to them, when they walk into me, my size can send them flying. i enjoy, pushing them out of line when they cut in front of me. that rudeness is the chinese way and suggest perhaps we are only adapting.
not to forget the purpose of the forum, then the girls. getting a chinese girl of any age, or marital status, is not a problem. getting rid of one is the challenge. and for the most part, the girls are the only bright spot on the chinese front. true gf are plentiful and the only reason to p4p is so you don't have to be hooked to one girl. once you have a gf though watch out, her male friends will discriminate against her because she is going out with a foreigner, they will actually seek "loans" from her because of her rich bf. many of the cutiest, are flat chested, which is sometimes hard to discover until the padded bra comes off. have to admit though, everyone i've been with eventuates into a sexual adventurer. conversation of a meaningful nature is completely lacking and find i move on more out of boredom than anything else.
finally the basic premise that we foreigners will eventually ruin china, because of our behaviour. i don't agree with that, the chinese will cater to us only so long as we serve a purpose. that purpose and tolerance dictated by the government. once the government decides foreigners are no longer valued, the whole tolerance will evaporate. even in the last couple of years, i've seen a major shift in the value placed on the foreign advisors. as a population we are not liked here in china, we are required. the chinese people as a population don't love us, never have, they want what we have, and for that they need us. today. their fake courtesy in social settings, their apparant deference to us, one has to be here awhile to see what they really think. even the little gifts they give to foreigners, they would never give to a chinese person, all that psuedo jade, pictures, they call it tourist junk for the foreigners. trinkets to the indians.
i am here for the money, plain and simple. with a degree in chinese studies, what i once thought was an intriguing gentle culture, i see now to be a very opportunistic culture. think i am too harsh. who's picture is on all the money and hangs above the great gate overlooking tianamin square? mao, the single biggest mass murderer in world history. stalin and hitler were absolute amateurs to what this man did, and he is their icon. and don't be so niave to think there is a separation between government, business and the people. the best and brightest join the communist party, they are all part of the system. arrogant and rude, maybe so, but feel i fit right in to the chinese system. my opinion and value yours, thanks
regards
matius[/quote]i agree wih you 100% but.
thats in shanghai. in other cities, people tehd to be less agressive, less money oriented. i did manage to become friends with several chinese girls, i mean friends, no sex at all. been firends for years, and they're the nicest and most honest people you will find. they're the first to be disgusted by some people's behaviour and actually call them "low education people" or "farmers".
true that chinese tend to be exremeley rude, pretentious (the face thing is just ridiculous) and also, racist. but, i've noticed that as the country develops, some people are starting to be less "like everyone else". in short, not all the chinese people thinks the same way, especially in the north or amoung young educated people. that's the people you have to know. finally, chinese people value kindness. over time, if they realize ou are kind to them, they will treat you as a friend, regardless of your nationality, and even if tey treated you like shit to begin with. lon term, always. build relationships.
now let's face it, the behaviour of people from my own country sometimes really disgusts me, and they"'re rude to foreigners too in their own way. maybe not that rude, but pretty lame. see what i mean americans, french, spanish?
There are nice and asshole expats here, and nice and asshole mongers, and even mongers that are nice sometimes and assholes other times. The reasons why are vast and not at all interesting - at least not to someone who signed up for a forum that purports to be about men seeking women for sex!!
As to the myth of BSD's ruining the market, besides that it's at very best a specious argument, if it were actually true then it would be pointless and actually counterproductive to attempt to castigate BSD's here since doing so simply provides reason for BSD's to actually WANT to spend more since it would ensure better selection. The abundantly clear reality however is that there is more than enough P4P here at all pricing levels.
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Case in points:
- There are probably more BBS's and cheap massage girls than a person who lives here and mongers 5 nights per week could ever hit. Cost less than 500RMB (often much less...as low as 100 RMB in some cases). These prices haven't changed in years.
- At many Chinese KTV's the girls' fees for going home are 2000 RMB to 5000 RMB, and the market is 99%+ Chinese (and people who don't use this forum). These prices haven't changed in years.
- Craig's list has several options for FS for 500 to 800 RMB. These prices haven't changed in years. There are also now more expensive options, presumably to service the BSD's, exemplifying how a market actually works.
- Bar girls (FL's) are still charging roughly the same prices as 5 years ago. Granted there are some who now negotiate harder or walk away from lower offers, and also finding cheaper girls may require some changing of venues and/or a bit more work than before, but there's still a plethora - no, make that vast majority (and also maybe still equal in total number) - of FL's whose prices equivalent to what we were paying here 5+ years ago.
- Prices at saunas haven't changed in years
Point is, for every one anecdotal evidence some whiny monger can point to about not getting a stunner on demand for 100RMB or losing out to a girl holding out for a BSD and thereby concluding that the market is getting ruined, there are 1000's of girls in that same guy's price range. And once again, if a BSD is able or willing to pay a few hundred (or even thousand) more for the girl of his choice then that's actually his prerogative.
Moreover, the market gets ruined by crackdowns which take out thousands of girls in a day or week or month, not by BSD's or assholes which may or may not have impact on expectations of a few girls, one-by-one, over a long period of time.
Let's put an end to this pointless debate once and for all and get back on subject.
With all that shit ongoing at Peacock, I decided to visit Tertiary today. I hadn't been there for a couple of months.
It turned out a mistake. Not that I was molested by the police, but the girl (Number 108) really sucked (unfortunately not my dick).
Looks were at the lower range of 10 and she had absolut no massage skills. She just grabbed and squeezed pieces of my flesh here and there. And even that she did in a haste and with a bad attitude.
The HJ was delivered in the same fashion, and she pulled so hard on my meat that I cried out in pain 2-3 times :-(.
I know, the girls at Tertiary are never really beauties, but avoid 108, if you're not a masochist.
Dropped by 999 today and had 852. I know there has been a lot of questions about certain establishments being open. And, I can confirm that 999 is up to date on their protection money as of 4/25.
Usual drill. Disrobe, shower. A guy hits you up for a scrub, but denied and went straight to the drying off and sauna garb area. Ushered up the stairs and straight into the fishbowl. Sometimes I have waited, but today there was no delay. Wow. There was at least 20 girls in there. I wanted to go petite this time so I chose 852. She was giving good eye contact, so I took that as a positive. Interesting thing happened this time. I had to tell them the number in Chinese. He must not understand my accent.
Up the stairs I go and she takes my arm and we go to the room. There is the usual awkward preparations. She takes off her garments, helps me off with mine. She gives the obligatory comment about having chest hair. Happens every time.
We have the soapy session, which was good enough. She checked all the boxes. Usual breast and booty rub with soap. Very nice. Next off to the room. This is also the usual drill. The bright spots of her performance were the AR and red rope. It was perhaps one of the best AR I’ve had, and I’m not into it. So, if you are into that remember her number.
She also was my first time with the red rope at 999. I’m guessing because she is petite. My theory is (because I usually go for tall) that petite girls only do red rope. For those unfamiliar she basically uses the ropes to flip upside down and performs a BBBJ. She uses the ropes to spin around and essentially torque your little man. It was nice.
Other than that. Nothing too spectacular. No DATY, DFK. For positions she started with cowgirl and went reverse cowgirl. I finished doggie by request.
Summary of 852
Breasts: 6
Body: 7
Face: 8
Attitude: 7
GFE: 5
Repeat: No
Recommend: Only if you want a red-rope experience at 999
[QUOTE=World Guy Sh]Soho. Zai na li? Do post the locations of places you visit. Is it the place on Sinan Lu?
[/QUOTE]
It's on Hengshan Lu more or less across the street from Zapatas/Sashas.
[QUOTE=Vista Sushi]It's on Hengshan Lu more or less across the street from Zapatas/Sashas.[/QUOTE]
Second person I have heard mention Soho is worth a look...
[QUOTE=Angstman]I was one of the unlucky buggers who was there during the big raid a few weeks ago on a Friday night about 6:30. I walked in and they showed me a menu with all the original stuff blocked out. Was led downstairs and one of the guys led me to the first room on the right, as I was walking in the room 3 cops were in there. WTF? ! Anyway, one of the cops just screamed at me and told me to get out. I left and walked our rather briskly.
First off, I didn't freak out totally. But I'd say it was 6 on the nervous scale from 1-10. Secondly, thanks to the Peacock management for using me as phoney 'bait'. Thirdly, based on that. I will never go back to Peacock again. And finally, I'm glad I didn't leave work early as planned, as I probably would have been caught with my hard rod up in vertical mode and my fingers in some chicks ****. And detained.
Some good things coming out of all this is that I've been exploring and finding more 'legit' places that have most girls who give an oily hand. One place I found last night is 'Baihui Massage' at #376-1 Nandang Lu (second floor. Says 'Massage' on huge signage), just a left turn coming out of the Hengshen Lu tunnel that becomes Cao Xi lu. Downside is the girls arent the prettiest, and the environment aint the most posh but if you want a quick and dirty HR. Maybe worth the trip. Ask for #7 from An Hui. She'll try to 'stiff' you for 200 tip, but don't buy into that. I payed 128 for 1 hour oil massge, and tipped 100 for a decent HJ and some titty sucking.
Another quick and dirty place is right down from Tertiary on Shaan Xi Lu. Walk away from Zhao Jia Bang Lu towards Jian Guo Lu. Its in the middle of that cluster of beauty salons. Forget the exact name but they advertise as an 'Australian Massage' place. Somewhat green signage. Ask for the 'for men only' oil massage. I think it's like 228 rmb (yes a bit steep). First few times there I get a nice oil rub and ass massage. I was able to get an HR from 3 girls (#10, #12, and the other I forgot). Most interesting thing is that I did not give a tip, nor was I haggled for one. Again, girls are not the prettiest. But sans tip was OK for that time. Lately I've struck out as I was denied an HJ. Since then I have stopped going.
I hope more guys post info on these little places. Its my forte, too chicken to go to any saunas and such.
[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size][/QUOTE]No, you would not have been caught. They are well rehearsed for this. When the police turn up, someone is hitting a button hard and the lights flash. On, off, on, off, like some kind of disco. The girls know exactly what they are doing. Out come the jarmies, open up the window and straight into a legit massage. Quite firmly told, keep the head down (both) and just play along.
As Xiang Shen Plod comes in. "Ta bu ting bu dong" somes into play. Carry on seems to be the answer. And she did. Once the all clear had been given.
Were my feathers ruffled? Oh yes. But less so due to the efficiency of the 'additional' service.
[b]BUT[/b] be careful and ensure you have suitable ID. Just in case.
WGS
[QUOTE=Blacklisted]Second person I have heard mention Soho is worth a look.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I think it is. And that is dark. Like the black hole of Calcutta. If it [i]is[/i] that makes three places in town with the name SoHo. Sinan Lu, Hengshan Lu and XTD.
Which feels a tad big to be an area like New York or London. Damn the beer is kicking in.
Seems like some exploring is required. Anyone up for it over the next two-three weeks. Or months?
WGS
Seems the Economic Crisis will get worse and worse.
So many girls will be out of work.
As promised, I've searched out some of those great places I was directed to by this site a year ago. So far, some disappointment but also some familiar satisfaction.
First, the 'Yanping Lu' location no longer exists (see my old report plus those by Bloom for the actual directions). I checked the 4th floor and even the 5th floor but both are now some sort of marketing company? There is a massage joint on the 3F which at first glance appeared to be a 'legit' place. Not sure. My gut said to move on so I did. I may just go back and try it out. Hey, if it turns out to be a legit place I'll just enjoy a real massage instead. I'll report back.
Next. The 'ole '6F' location near Jingan Temple. Again, look at my old reports for the location details. After the Yanping Lu disappointment I was expecting to find 6F gone as well. But. Hehe. It's still there! Guy at the elevator entrance outside calls up the have the elevator sent down. It appears to be some sort of security screening mechanism which I didn't notice last year. At first he didn't notice me and I tried to get the elevator to work. But nothing. After he calls up, *ting! * the elevator lights up. Up stairs it appears they have rearranged the place a bit. And it's now run like a 'soapy'. Well, I'm assuming this is what it is. I've never been to a 'soapy' before so I can't compare. Anyway, at first I was a little confused. I was led to my locker, changed and instead of given a towel I was given my 'uniform' and quickly led through the maze and downstairs to a waiting room of girls. Lots of them! Wow. I picked #82 who has a wicked set and an equally wicked look in her eyes. She escorted me off through another maze and to our room. Aaah. A room with ajoining shower. Ok, I figured no shower before just meant I'm doing it here in the room. 82 asked me to wait a bit and I asked to take a shower. Which confused her a bit but she indicated sure go ahead. So I did. When she returned she was a bit surprised that I had showered and asked if I wanted to take one with her together. Uh. I was confused. But obviously wasn't going to refuse showering with the hot little number. Again some confusion that turned into something awesome. She undressed and each time we made eye contact she flashed those wicked eyes and made the sexiest motion with her mouth and. Oh my god. The longest tongue I've seen LOL. She started to do this little dirty dance in front of me. I guessed. Uh. No shower? Haha. We started touching and rubbing and I quickly noticed she was soaking 'wet'. As digits began to play she lifted her leg onto the bed so I could have easier access. Yikes this was one horny number. Eventually I led her down onto the bed and gave her a well received round of daty. Yummy! After a while of that she asks if I wanted to make love to her. Uh. Ok! So out popped the condom and off we went to round one of fucking! Various positions followed and lots of vocal performance. Before I popped I tried to make the international sign for CIM which led us into confusion again haha. But nothing bad. She led me to the shower room, sat me down and a stool with an open slot down the middle and preceded to shower and caress my. Down there. Followed by an amazing BBBJ. No CIM but a nice HJ finish. After she gave me a full shower-down we returned to the bed. And THEN started the session. Haha. Ok so maybe we did things a little backwards. What followed was all the pre-sex catbath etc. She then asks if I wanted to have two girls. Uh. I hesitated and said maybe next time (dang I should have gone for two. But I will next time! ). She was cool with that and continued on. Then she asked if I wanted make love again. Hehe. When I said yes. She was surprised but happy. This led to more foreplay and another round of daty which got her writhing in joy haha. My little friend still needed some help for round two so off to the BBBJ races we went again. And eventually we were marathon fucking in various very loud positions. I have to keep my head from growing too big, but she gave me the 'thumbs up' after practically drilling her into the bed on round two. After another sweat cleansing shower we left the room steaming hot. Apparently we went a little over-time since the phone rang as we getting dressed. What followed was a bit more confusion. Haha! She led me out as normally done. I wandered back up stairs glancing back several times to see her wicked eyes sending me a farewell flash. I was then led to a small room. Basically the room I remember from last year that I was taken to to wait to be led to the line up of girls. I was presented with a menu that I obviously couldn't read since it's all in Chinese. I was being asked if I wanted a drink. Some soup. Basically it was dinner time. I mentioned I was ok and not interested. The attendant left and I sat there for a while. Eventually another couple of attendants shows up and look surprised that I'm there. I'm asked if I want a pedicure or a foot massage. I politely refuse and they leave. A while longer still. And one of the attendants returns and asks again. Do I want a foot massage. Again I politely refuse. Haha. Then I wait alone again! This time no one returns and I get the feeling they've forgotten about me. So I start wandering outside until I bump into the original attendant that had led me to the girls at the start. He asks if I want my clothes. I say. Uh yes. And I'm led back to my locker. No big deal but it was a little odd. Everyone was really friendly. I just don't know where they all went to LOL. Anyway, at the end of all this I had had a great 90 minute session plus another 30+minute relaxing. Uh. Wait. The total price was only 650! It appears the prices here haven't gone up. I'm guessing the 2 girl option may still be 880. I will definitely go back and find out before I leave Shanghai.
Anyway, I noticed that both the Yanping Lu and 6F location had not been reviewed in almost a year. So here you go.
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[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso]Hmmm. Just texted my lovely at sacrosa, she told me she is not working these days, has that thing now also affected this place? Anybody knows what is going on, Shanghai Motor Show and May holiday should not have that large impact, or am I wrong?
FA[/QUOTE]It is just the begining, they are getting prepared for the 2010 expo, so places are going to close 1 by 1, slowly but surely.
Some places will only be Chinese friendly like Sacrosa during the olympics in beijing
[QUOTE=World Guy Sh]
[b]BUT[/b] be careful and ensure you have suitable ID. Just in case.
[/QUOTE]
What passes for suitable ID in your experience? Do they march you down to the lockers to get your ID out?
Now, my big question is how 999 can justify (not that they ever get raided) the soapy room and the one-purpose bed they got.
[QUOTE=World Guy Sh]Yeah, I think it is. And that is dark. Like the black hole of Calcutta. If it [i]is[/[i] that makes three places in town with the name SoHo. Sinan Lu, Hengshan Lu and XTD.
Seems like some exploring is required. Anyone up for it over the next two-three weeks. Or months?
WGS[/QUOTE]
It may be a chain of clubs. The Hengshan Lu location is rather large and has a nice outside seating area. There were all sorts of nice cars parked out front (BMW, Porsche, Audi, etc.). Seems promising. There were a lot of girls walking around alone on the street.
Gentlemen. Watch out for Gina on CL. It wasn't any surprise that she wasn't the girl in the picture, but she upsells, gives crappy VERY rushed service. Looks = 6, Attitude = 0, Service = 1. Repeat? Not if she was the last WG in Shanghai.
Hi guys,
my gf is filipina and she told me that a tong ren lu filipina killed a regular -english- customer (she pretended him to be her "boyfriend") when he discovered that she was steeling his money last week. According to the rumours the girl has been arrested.
Does anyone know about this story?
Shamuc
arrived back in shanghai on wednesday 15th, first time since last september and ever eager to sample its delights and descend into a world of debauchery and filth. i see the skirts are getting shorter and the shorts tighter, god i love this place, it runs on testosterone.
having continued to rtff while back in uk, thought i would try a nice massage (with he) and ventured to the recommended garden house, 191 nandan road (just past caoxi rd – heading west rh side). all the girls in incredibly short skirts and are very attractive. no fishtank but i doubt they employ any ugly ones, certainly mine was a beautiful young girl, tall with a lithe body, definitely an 8. the 228rmb massage was great, particularly where she props your legs up on her thighs as she straddles the massage table. this is so that she can get good access to the important parts. when she flipped me and continued to play with and make admiring remarks about my cock i started pushing my hand between her legs. when i asked her to take off her pants the inevitable response – tip? she asked for 400. in hindsight i rather stupidly settled on 200 (waaay over the top, sorry fellow mongers) but the climax was indeed happy and her pussy was very wet. afterwards i was taken to another room where a different girl gave about 40min foot massage. i decided to end the first day back by calling sunny, plump little girl from woodstock bar, who i had got to know (and fuck) last september. she came over to the hotel and spent a couple of hours. strangely unfulfilling despite doing all the usual. gave her 500rmb and made mental note to cut & run by telling her i was going to be out of town for most of this trip – partially true.
not coming to shanghai all that often i decided not to repeat too many previous experiences on this trip and fancied trying bbs. wuzhong road, heading west there’s shop after shop on both sides with eager looking girls in the window. having read a previous report i tried the first one on the right hand side. got a nice girl in a small cubicle for 200rmb. full strip, perfunctory massage and asked if friend could join us for extra 100. have to say it was the easiest 100 the friend has ever made. i sucked on her tits while the other one gave a tit wank. after the finish there was no rush as they cleaned me up and chatted. interesting but doubt i’ll repeat.
got back into shanghai from zhengzhou (zilch) on friday night and ventured down to malones. rocking band and sat on the balcony area next to a tall attractive girl named ana from heilongjiang, which is about as far north as you can go in china. she was with a male and female couple. got talking about her work (in a shoe shop) and her friends drifted off. towards 1. 30am she was making it plain she wanted to extend the evening so i suggested my hotel. so the freelancer hit came, 1500rmb. we got down to 800 and retired back to the mandarin. i got down to some serious daty and was rewarded with a flood. we fucked for a long time before she asked if i wanted her to make me cum with her mouth. this was a seriously great bbbj and i matched her orgasm. after a second round she departed leaving her number and asking me to call her.
saturday night spent drinking and watching arsenal v chelsea in the big bamboo bar behind the ritz-carlton. by 2. 00am i was feeling pretty damn good and so ventured down tongren lu, in and out of a couple more bars before entering the manhattan. it was too much, head swirling, music loud so i fell out into the night, picked up a well racked street girl i think i saw last trip. back to the hotel 200rmb quoted. i fucked her, she gave me head, i fell asleep she robbed me – about 1000rmb + 500 of mini-bar contents. lesson learned don’t pick up a girl when you’re cattle trucked. on the sunday at about 11. 00am a girl from the bar in nanyang lu, across from big bamboo which i’d been in earlier on saturday rang me and asked if she could come to me. what the fuck, not here every week and bad experience last night. vicky, shapely girl from hunan arrived. i was till in bed so she joined me and that’s were we spent the day until midnight aside from 2 trips out for food. cost 1000rmb not bad for multiple shags, bbbj, daty.
i was away from shanghai on monday and returned late on wednesday, and thought i give manhattan another try. still busy, still loud but at least this time i was sober. had a few beers talked to and groped a few girls – chinese and filipino. i’d decided on a really foxy, young filipino babe named juliana and was standing drinking with my hand up her incredibly short dress on her pert ass. she wandered off for [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] and i was touched up by irene. irene is a big, black kenyan broad. i am talking big. i could have parked my bottle of beer on that ass and a body that was lived in – probably not the usual form for you mongers. well back in the uk the only wg’s i go with are black so at 800rmb who could resist? as we walked back to my hotel i asked if she had condoms and she replied only one and we need at least three! so we called in at the small shop in trl where she bought a pack of 12, she left my hotel at 6. 30 next morning having sucked me dry, anally fucking her as well straight sex in every position. this was sex that was down & dirty.
thursday, last day before flying back. after a lie-in, went for a walk a strolled down by the hilton. opposite the shanghai hotel there’s a "hole in the wall" bar called jams, the door was open as i walked past so i called in for a beer. laurel the owner was the only person in there so we chatted and i bought her a beer. she told me that in the evening she has 4 girls working there. i told her i had come to shanghai to fuck my brains out which she thought hilarious! to cut a long story short we eventually ended up with the door closed my cock in her hand and dfk’n each others faces off. a most pleasant interlude, must get back there one evening next trip. a quick massage on the way back at the place opposite the hilton – 150 for 60 mins + 100 for he from a cute girl called wang mai, she’d started at 800 for "special massage" so when i showed her i had only 250 on me she carried on anyway. final evening and a raunchy session with a cute little bar girl in casablanca bar in tongren lu. after a drink and dfk at the bar we moved to a private booth with curtains where she took off her top and mini skirt revealing the flimsiest thong. a delightful session of fingering her as she unfastened my pants and she even stood on the seat and pushed her pussy into my face for daty. the draft beer cost 20rmb a pint her drinks 50 so a relatively cheap session although it went no further as i had to be up at 5. 00am next morning.
so a mixed experience never got time to revisit saracosa which i had intended, got ripped off, over paid in the first massage place but enjoyed a pretty debauched few days, ah well, life’s rich tapestry. see you whenever sh.
Visited JJ's today at lunch. Really nice place with unique well furnished rooms. Easy to find, nice attendants and quick service. On Monday at 1pm I was the only one there which was great because my last caper at 999 left me behind 5 Chinese guys who fished out all the good girls ahead of me.
The fishbowl is cool with a very slow curtain that draws to reveal 10-15 gorgeous sets of legs wrapped in red/orange mini's and white silk blouses above. All the girls looked good. I chose 55 which turned out a mistake. The clothes they wear do make it harder to judge 'boob dynamics'. That aside it was her performance and attitude that was lack lustre. Too many questions 'are you too cold? ', 'are you feeling happy? ' and too much time tuning the shower nozzle like it was a guitar. It was very stop start.
Despite her small but soft breasts I'll admit she performed a decent soapland after a coldish shower scrub-down. AR was about 10 sec's and BBBJ consisted of animal sounds and grunts. I guess we were running out of time having spent 45min on the shower nozzle and doing her hair band so sex was fairly ordinary. She just lay there and was like a stubborn mule trying to manouvre into various positions. She wouldn't do reverse cowgirl as I was 'too big'. Shot my seeds in the bag and was keen to get out. Another barrage of 'are you happy? ', 'are you too cold? Too warm? '. I didn't even bother saying anything. I was past the point of no return.
Ahhhhhh. I escape back to the lockers, mint basket and street outside. Damage as advertised 880rmb. Expensive but nice place.
I can't really recommend 55 and not even sure why I chose her but sauna's can be a lottery and it is fun to experiment. I do recommend the establishment though and I enjoyed the ease with which I could slip in and out. Plus those funky rooms! Hopefully next time I'll choose a better honey.
[QUOTE=Clean Gene]I did relay the message, and the girl and 'boyfriend' were duly admitted to the designated university.
CG[/QUOTE]Wow, this is the holy grail all Asian parents seek. How high up the admissions ladder does one need to be connected to receive this sort of special treatment?
You know, I have to ask a stupid question. I have RTFF for some time now and have never heard anything about STD's in China. I mean, how does it compare here to the US? Here, you got to double wrap it and still hope that you are OK. When I search the internet, all I find are a bunch of statistics that say the rates of STD's in China are going up. But what does it all mean from a mongers perspective? Are the girls at 999 tested? What are the risks? If any experienced monger can give me the low down, it would be appreciated.
SM
[QUOTE=Adventurous Abc]Wow, this is the holy grail all Asian parents seek. How high up the admissions ladder does one need to be connected to receive this sort of special treatment?[/QUOTE]
Sorry, Adverturous, I haven't the faintest. Somebody else handled it. For the ones which I personally handled: I would ask them to take the required exams, and then suggest a suitable school. Sometimes I'd suggest an ESL program (in which case the VISA application would be the hurdle).
The best story I've heard was of a daughter of an acquaintance who was met at LAX by the University's Dean of Students (but I had nothing to do with it).
CG
simply had to give sh another chance. hit 2f at 4pm. usual help undressing, hit the shower, declined the back scrape and pedicure, rested for about five minutes in the tv room, then was taken to the lineup. of seven girls, three were making good eye contact, but one spinner, number 3, was grinning ear-to-ear. having rtffed and taken note of the sage advice offered by the seasoned veterans of this esteemed community, i decided to go with the one that wanted the job. great choice. titty bath followed by cat bath evolved into an amazing thirty minutes of bbbj intermixed with ar. next it was down between my legs and dt until i thought for sure she was getting the load right there. timing is everything. on with the slicker and that cow girl mounted right up. needless to say, i soon shot my shot. expecting a quick out-the-door, i was surprised when she massaged me for another fifteen minutes until the time was well up damage: usual rmb650. skill and attitude 9. 5-10. repeat? you bet, asap.
[QUOTE=Strollmonger]You know, I have to ask a stupid question. I have RTFF for some time now and have never heard anything about STD's in China. I mean, how does it compare here to the US? Here, you got to double wrap it and still hope that you are OK. When I search the internet, all I find are a bunch of statistics that say the rates of STD's in China are going up. But what does it all mean from a mongers perspective? Are the girls at 999 tested? What are the risks? If any experienced monger can give me the low down, it would be appreciated.
SM[/QUOTE]
Welllll.... you said what kind of question it is!!
OK OK - just had to get that one in - but since you asked - I....and I would think most other "experienced" (so to call) mongers, would advise you to ALWAYS keep VERY safe.
How does it compare to....?? Now how could anybody answer that?? I mean - all it take is one infected gal and there goes all the comparisons, statistics etc out the window. Just keep it all safe my friend.
Girls at 999 - in China "Tested????" come on - prostitution is illegal in china - so how/who would insist they get tested???!!! And even if they are tested - these gals can do up to 8 or so guys a day! (some of them actually do work 16 hour days!!). How do you know if the guy just before you gave her the heeby jeebies or not??!!
On the plus side though, I have never experienced a Sauna gal who would agree to bare backing - but then again - practically all of 'em do BBBJ's, never mind about all 'em ass rimming!!
And as far as age/experience/freshness - my own very humble opinion is that the WG's in China are generally much younger than those in other countries - even compared to surrounding SE Asian countries - so for what it's worth.
And that is all I could think of to advise you - for whatever its worth
SEAJ
Ps. By the Way - my doctor friend tells me that double wrapping is the very worst possible idea - as the 2 condoms rub on each other and the friction will instead tear both condoms apart!
[QUOTE=Strollmonger]You know, I have to ask a stupid question. I have RTFF for some time now and have never heard anything about STD's in China. I mean, how does it compare here to the US? Here, you got to double wrap it and still hope that you are OK. When I search the internet, all I find are a bunch of statistics that say the rates of STD's in China are going up. But what does it all mean from a mongers perspective? Are the girls at 999 tested? What are the risks? If any experienced monger can give me the low down, it would be appreciated.
SM[/QUOTE]
The central tendency of statistics relates to biology. So, you should suspect that STD rates in China are comparable with pretty much anywhere else. The Chinese government paints a pretty rosy picture with statistics in all cases, so really any 'data' would be unreliable at best. I think most international organizations revise up the rates of HIV in the country. The official rates are laughably low. Don't buy them unless you need an excuse, and your self-fulfilling prophecy will come true.
As for the sauna girls at 999. Well, based on what they do to you, the probability of contraction is very low. As mentioned by one of the board's sages, the worst they do without protection is a BBBJ, DATY, and AR. In the grand scheme of mongering, the probability of getting anything from either of those activities is really, really low. Not to get into much detail, the risk is really on the taker. So, she is really the one taking the risk. Given incubation periods, well, it is unlikely you catch anything from the previous guy. In any case she'll suck on Listerine long enough to kill that possibility.
So, unless you are severely unlucky in life, which I'm guessing you are not, don't sweat it. If you want zero risk, just ask her for a HJ. She'll be more than happy to assist. Also, you can have a lot of fun inspecting her if you are really paranoid. If you see any open sores, just walk out. They'll get you a replacement.
I think for the most of us, Craigslist is an unreliable source at best. Sometimes, however, there are diamonds in the rough.
Back in October, I posted for a dinner companion. I was not really looking for anything more, and mostly, wanted someone to help me navigate the culinary world of Shanghai. The result is that I've been to places I would have never been and can even impress my Chinese colleagues with my knowledge of good restaurants in most every style. Enough of food though....
So, the result of the October post was that I met her when I arrived in Shanghai. We went out to eat then to KTV. I paid for dinner and she paid for KTV. The fact that she paid for something was a good sign. Dinners have continued on and off for months since we met. The conversation has gotten more personal as can be expected after the small talk and career talk wears off.
Recently, she asked me about my sex life. Not being shy about it I told her about my legit relationships. Namely explained about the 'friends with benefits concept. Again, I was not expecting her to be one of these friends. She seemed far too concerned with finding a mate. And, I have been upfront that I am not a guy looking for a wife. Insanity is making the same mistake more than one time.
So, I explained the concept and how it works and why it works over dinner. My contention was that it takes a lot of maturity on both sides to make it work. Essentially, it requires the ability to separate physical needs from societal pressures. And, moralists on either side of the pond aren't all that different.
Well, inviting herself over to watch a movie, one thing led to another and we had a lot of fun. She's not a pro, so the quality wasn't comparable, but there is something nice about it anyways. So, moral of the story is that although it really isn't free to groom this sort of situation, Craiglist (or any other site) can pay off -- even if you aren't looking for it. It may just take time. In the end, sometimes curiosity gets you to the cat. I certainly didn't expect it, but did welcome the change....
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]Welllll.... you said what kind of question it is!!
Girls at 999 - in China "Tested????" come on - prostitution is illegal in china - so how/who would insist they get tested???!!! And even if they are tested - these gals can do up to 8 or so guys a day! [/QUOTE]
All girls I know, working in mostly legit massage parlours, carry a Shanghai Police registration card. They are obliged to check in at the local hospital for a medical check up including blood test every six months. I never heard of any STD's being found, but various cases of other ailments being revealed. I understand that all service industry workers carry the cards in Shanghai, it is not a sex workers registration, but includes anybody who might possibly be one. GF was disgusted she had to pay 45 rmb for the (photo)card.
fz
[QUOTE=White Dragon]Visited JJ's today at lunch. Really nice place with unique well furnished rooms. Easy to find, nice attendants and quick service. On Monday at 1pm I was the only one there which was great because my last caper at 999 left me behind 5 Chinese guys who fished out all the good girls ahead of me.
The fishbowl is cool with a very slow curtain that draws to reveal 10-15 gorgeous sets of legs wrapped in red/orange mini's and white silk blouses above. All the girls looked good. I chose 55 which turned out a mistake. The clothes they wear do make it harder to judge 'boob dynamics'. That aside it was her performance and attitude that was lack lustre. Too many questions 'are you too cold? ', 'are you feeling happy? ' and too much time tuning the shower nozzle like it was a guitar. It was very stop start.
Despite her small but soft breasts I'll admit she performed a decent soapland after a coldish shower scrub-down. AR was about 10 sec's and BBBJ consisted of animal sounds and grunts. I guess we were running out of time having spent 45min on the shower nozzle and doing her hair band so sex was fairly ordinary. She just lay there and was like a stubborn mule trying to manouvre into various positions. She wouldn't do reverse cowgirl as I was 'too big'. Shot my seeds in the bag and was keen to get out. Another barrage of 'are you happy? ', 'are you too cold? Too warm? '. I didn't even bother saying anything. I was past the point of no return.
Ahhhhhh. I escape back to the lockers, mint basket and street outside. Damage as advertised 880rmb. Expensive but nice place.
I can't really recommend 55 and not even sure why I chose her but sauna's can be a lottery and it is fun to experiment. I do recommend the establishment though and I enjoyed the ease with which I could slip in and out. Plus those funky rooms! Hopefully next time I'll choose a better honey.[/QUOTE]Too bad you were not lucky with your choice!
If you think you may go more than one time to JJ, it is worth taking the membership card. It's 100 RMB and gives you a 90 RMB discount,including on your first visit. So you only pay 10 RMB extra the irst time, and the next time you will pay only 790.
Yesterday I discussed with one of ex-xiao jie of World plaza B2 (she quit 2 months ago). She was still in link with some girls and gave me the real story.
The cops went there, fined the customers 20000 to 30000 rmb, took the girls (probably at least few days to jail before sending them back home. This is unsure I'll keep investigating), and they closed down the place.
I tried to call the ex mamasan but impossible to get hold of her.
Well, not sure the place will re-open in the future.
SC
[QUOTE=Sixty Cent]Yesterday I discussed with one of ex-xiao jie of World plaza B2 (she quit 2 months ago). She was still in link with some girls and gave me the real story.
The cops went there, fined the customers 20000 to 30000 rmb, took the girls (probably at least few days to jail before sending them back home. This is unsure I'll keep investigating), and they closed down the place.
I tried to call the ex mamasan but impossible to get hold of her.
Well, not sure the place will re-open in the future.
SC[/QUOTE]SC,
IF this happen the management will tell the staff to keep their mouth closed ,they will just say the sauna is closed for remodeling and until the police get paid off.
Fast Eddie 48
B2 was raided on 9. April and about 20 girls, together with some GUESTS (!), were jailed 15 days. The Mamasan was the only person who escaped the raid. But she broke open the safety deposit boxes of all the girls, took all the money and belongings from them and was gone! All the girls are either mad or sad, and are all looking for her.
There is no hope that B2 will reopen. All the girls are looking for new jobs now. Since the second time it will be ONE YEAR Jail, many do not want to do the same job any more. I had a dinner last night with some of the girls after they were released from the jail. One of the girls (my favorite girl) has agreed to stay with me as my housekeeper in exchange for a room in my apartment.
During the 15 days jail, she said that every day, there were new girls jailed. So she assumed the police is raiding one or two Saunas EVERY DAY.
According to the girls at a "serious" massage shop at Pu-Diang Rd (Pudong), almost all shops with sex service on the streets were raided and closed in the past 3 weeks. Even though their shop is "serious", many customers are afraid to come so their business is bad now.
So be careful!
[QUOTE=Rick China]B2 was raided on 9. April and about 20 girls, together with some GUESTS (!), were jailed 15 days. The Mamasan was the only person who escaped the raid. But she broke open the safety deposit boxes of all the girls, took all the money and belongings from them and was gone! All the girls are either mad or sad, and are all looking for her.
There is no hope that B2 will reopen. All the girls are looking for new jobs now. Since the second time it will be ONE YEAR Jail, many do not want to do the same job any more. I had a dinner last night with some of the girls after they were released from the jail. One of the girls (my favorite girl) has agreed to stay with me as my housekeeper in exchange for a room in my apartment.
During the 15 days jail, she said that every day, there were new girls jailed. So she assumed the police is raiding one or two Saunas EVERY DAY.
According to the girls at a "serious" massage shop at Pu-Diang Rd (Pudong), almost all shops with sex service on the streets were raided and closed in the past 3 weeks. Even though their shop is "serious", many customers are afraid to come so their business is bad now.
So be careful![/QUOTE]You are absolutely right. They put 8 customers to jail, including shanghainese, japanese and even 1 american. But they were quick release after paying 30000rmb (at least the american guy, after 1 day).
The girls did 15 days of jail (but no fine) and I had dinner with one of them yesterday, after she got out.
So mongerer, always keep your passport on you and some cash to avoid to call your wife asking her to bring money!
[QUOTE=Rick China]B2 was raided on 9. April and about 20 girls, together with some GUESTS (!), were jailed 15 days. The Mamasan was the only person who escaped the raid. But she broke open the safety deposit boxes of all the girls, took all the money and belongings from them and was gone! All the girls are either mad or sad, and are all looking for her.
There is no hope that B2 will reopen. All the girls are looking for new jobs now. Since the second time it will be ONE YEAR Jail, many do not want to do the same job any more. I had a dinner last night with some of the girls after they were released from the jail. One of the girls (my favorite girl) has agreed to stay with me as my housekeeper in exchange for a room in my apartment.
During the 15 days jail, she said that every day, there were new girls jailed. So she assumed the police is raiding one or two Saunas EVERY DAY.
According to the girls at a "serious" massage shop at Pu-Diang Rd (Pudong), almost all shops with sex service on the streets were raided and closed in the past 3 weeks. Even though their shop is "serious", many customers are afraid to come so their business is bad now.
So be careful![/QUOTE]I was trying to send you a private message but it is not possible.
I am in contact with some of ex of WP, there is one (ex #19 from WP, maybe you know her? ) who is very concerned with the news, can't believe the mamasan did that. She is asking if you can tell her which girls were caught? The girls numbers? The ones you know were among the 20.
I know 1 who was caught but she is still under the shock and does not like to discuss too much about the details, she did not even tell me the mamasan did that!
Thanks in advance
[QUOTE=Sixty Cent]I am in contact with some of ex of WP, there is one (ex #19 from WP, maybe you know her? ) who is very concerned with the news, can't believe the mamasan did that. She is asking if you can tell her which girls were caught? The girls numbers? The ones you know were among the 20.
I know 1 who was caught but she is still under the shock and does not like to discuss too much about the details, she did not even tell me the mamasan did that!
Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]Though I had a long dinner with some of the girls jailed, we did not talk long about the topic since the shocks were still there. Actually, the girls were not only jailed. They have been BEATEN badly in the jail (I am not sure whether every one was beaten and why. But MY GIRL was beaten badly, this is for sure).
I do not want to mention names or numbers.
Even though the girls I talked to truly believe that the Mamasan took all their money and belongings, it could be a speculation. The facts are:
1. Mamasan was the only person escaped the raid by hiding inside the large projection TV in one of the room (you may remember this huge TV in one of the "resting" rooms). One of the girls saw her hiding there. All others, including servants, receptionist, etc, were all caught and jailed.
2. When they were released and came back to B2, all their safety deposit boxes were broken open and all their money and belongings were gone. This is very painful since on the day of raid, the girls just got their wage paid. So every girl has at least RMB 20k to 30k in the box, some girls even much more.
3. The Mamasan was gone also and cannot be reached by any one and by any of her normal contact ways.
So I think it is understandable that the girls believe Mamasan took their money. But I think it is also possible that Mamasan ran after the police left and later, other people came and stole all the money.
The Mamasan will certainly hide herself since she will be jailed for a long long time (not only 15 days) if she got caught. So her hiding is certainly not a proof that she stole the money.
[QUOTE=Rick China]B2 was raided on 9. April and about 20 girls, together with some GUESTS (!), were jailed 15 days. The Mamasan was the only person who escaped the raid. But she broke open the safety deposit boxes of all the girls, took all the money and belongings from them and was gone! All the girls are either mad or sad, and are all looking for her.
There is no hope that B2 will reopen. All the girls are looking for new jobs now. Since the second time it will be ONE YEAR Jail, many do not want to do the same job any more. I had a dinner last night with some of the girls after they were released from the jail. One of the girls (my favorite girl) has agreed to stay with me as my housekeeper in exchange for a room in my apartment.
During the 15 days jail, she said that every day, there were new girls jailed. So she assumed the police is raiding one or two Saunas EVERY DAY.
According to the girls at a "serious" massage shop at Pu-Diang Rd (Pudong), almost all shops with sex service on the streets were raided and closed in the past 3 weeks. Even though their shop is "serious", many customers are afraid to come so their business is bad now.
So be careful![/QUOTE]Several Objectives Could Be Achieved At Once
1. Enforcement authorities can demonstrate to their higher-ups that they are taking decisive action. They can point to B2's closure, with associated arrests, fines, and jail time as proof positive. This action is aligned with the Central Government's China-wide crackdown around the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] issue. (Coincidentally, April 9, the day of the raid, was the day before Good Friday, and Easter Weekend.)
2. Sends a signal to WGs and customers alike that real action is possible. Especially if you're in a location where authorities can walk in the front door, take three steps into the locker room, five steps to the changing area, do a right face and head to the main area. Within one minute – or less – authorities can be through the front door and knocking on massage rooms. My point: B2 was an easy target, compared to other venues where you've got to take elevators four or five floors to get to the lobby, 'run the gauntlet' through locker rooms and changing areas filled with floor attendants, and pass through a maze of confusing hallways to get to the massage rooms.
3. It cleans up this stretch of Century Avenue / Pudong Nan Lu underground subway area in advance of the 2010 World Expo where many foreigners could be walking by. Recently, there have been extensive renovations on both B1 and B2 levels of the subway concourse that cross over form Century Avenue toward and under World Plaza. Several new shops have opened, and others are being renovated and should open soon. Directly across from the B2 entrance, there's a very large area that has been recently remodeled. It stands to reason that planners would want an establishment in B2's location that's more fitting with other shops in the area. The subtext here is visibility: B2 was simply in a 'too visible' location. That's also true for many of the 'serious' street massage places. Think: out of sight…out of mind as a better way to go.
4. It drives more business into Sacrosa, which is nearby, and 'out of sight…out of mind'. Since business is somewhat slow, closing B2 simply drives more revenue into Sacrosa. Again, when times are slow, and Sacrosa has a RMB 550 deal before 7:00 pm, do you really need two saunas within one block of each other? And, again, out of sight, out of mind. The average 2010 Expo tourist will not stumble upon Sacrosa.
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Can anyone give some idea what the sauna in this hotel is like? How is the massage and any extras offered?
Not asking about what's around the area - I know there's lots, but what about in the hotel itself?
Thanks!
(sorry for cross post from East Shanghai Hotels forum, nobody there seems to have any feedback)
I am back in SH after a few months and what must I read: my favorite B2 closed down by police? some of the nice girls i never see again?
But more importantly worries me the thought that ALL places are now getting raided systematically. Can anybody confirm that? So SH was at least closed for one night and Peacock still is? Sacrosa doing fine? I thought as long as the Saunas payed their "bills" they were still safe...
Also, what exactly happened to foreigners cought (not permanently living there)?
Thanks guys!
Great session at Zhongtan Sanna Club. I picked two girls from a lineup of about 11 on Friday afternoon. I like having two girls cause they play off of each other; sometimes they compete to be the best.
On Friday the best was # 36. I don't remember what she said her name was. She is petite and curvy, pretty face with big eyes. She told me that she is from Hainan. The second girl was also petite and a little slim for my taste; not very curvy. Started with a fantastic soapy. Very playful and silly. I think the soapy slip and slide thing is a little ridiculous and I was just having fun. But it was soon very hot on the mat and I had my first pop there.
36 was really trying to be the best one in the room and putting on a show. She asked if I wanted "la la" If I wanted to watch her and the other girl play together. I said yes. She spoke to the other girl a little and reported that the other wouldn't. Then they had a brief exchange and she said OK. But it was only a little kiss. 36 was willing to play but the other was not open to it.
I think that if you began a session with 36, then asked for another girl and let 36 pick her, you might get some lesbian play.
At this point 36 had established her dominance, along with the fact that she knew some English. She still gave an amazing performance. She put the professional in the term Pro. They had a brief discussion about who I was going to fuck, but I assured them that I was going to fuck them both.
It turned out that the other girl was at a loss at what to do at times. She stayed near and tried to play along, but was less open. 36 was a teaser and a pleaser, multiple positions, BBBJ, COF, light S&M, DATY, and some bi tendencies. The second girl was a turn on in the way she was a confused witness to the action with 36. When 36 started slapping me around I imagine the other girl saying something like " is that sex? "When 36 tied me up and sat on my face the other girl was astounded. Before I go on with too much praise for her I want to say YMMV; but the main point of the forum as I understand it is to report good and bad experiences for the benefit of other readers. I think this was a good one.
#36 Face 8
body 9
service 10
some English ( do you like? Are you comfortable? )
no tattoos
other girl
face 8
body 7
service 7
2 tattoos, wolf and fish
1280 RMB with coupon before 19:00
90 minutes
3 pops
Krinko
I could not find any post by search about this place. Could you please provide some directions?
Now that b2 is closed I need a new venue and I also plan on finding and trying JJ's.
[QUOTE=Rick China]Though I had a long dinner with some of the girls jailed, we did not talk long about the topic since the shocks were still there. Actually, the girls were not only jailed. They have been BEATEN badly in the jail (I am not sure whether every one was beaten and why. But MY GIRL was beaten badly, this is for sure).
I do not want to mention names or numbers.
Even though the girls I talked to truly believe that the Mamasan took all their money and belongings, it could be a speculation. The facts are:
1. Mamasan was the only person escaped the raid by hiding inside the large projection TV in one of the room (you may remember this huge TV in one of the "resting" rooms). One of the girls saw her hiding there. All others, including servants, receptionist, etc, were all caught and jailed.
2. When they were released and came back to B2, all their safety deposit boxes were broken open and all their money and belongings were gone. This is very painful since on the day of raid, the girls just got their wage paid. So every girl has at least RMB 20k to 30k in the box, some girls even much more.
3. The Mamasan was gone also and cannot be reached by any one and by any of her normal contact ways.
So I think it is understandable that the girls believe Mamasan took their money. But I think it is also possible that Mamasan ran after the police left and later, other people came and stole all the money.
The Mamasan will certainly hide herself since she will be jailed for a long long time (not only 15 days) if she got caught. So her hiding is certainly not a proof that she stole the money.[/QUOTE]The only thing that make me doubt and wonder if you are manipulated is that it is not possible that they received 20K to 30K of salary just before. They only receive salary by week, so way below this amount.
Did the girls ask you to help them, give them money?
Anyway, I think Sacrosa is not far on the list!
Thought I would give CL another try. Picked one at random, L**g L**g in her ad. Made the call, knock on the door 40 minutes later. Of course the girl wasn’t the girl in the ad. Started the usual RMB300 massage, followed by up sell to RMB2000. I laughed and said to keep rubbing, massage only is ok. 2000 became 1000, too lazy to go through it all again, I countered with 1500 for two hours. What transpired was the best GFE I have had in a long time. CBJ, multiple positions, multiple pops. She had one of the tightest I’ve ever had. She came 4-5 times, and wasn’t faking. Great sense of humor, fantastic attitude. This is a girl who loves her job. After two and a half hours, exhausted, we went to the shower together and she got junior standing at attention once again, but alas, he wasn’t up for the task. Face 6, Body 8, Service and Attitude 9+. Repeat? You bet. If you can’t figure out the **, PM me and I’ll give you her phone no. Be nice to her boys.
Applecrate, most of your points raised are correct. I have several friends and business partners who are either government officials or are acquainted to some, and all confirmed that from now on and until the Expo is over the crackdowns will be more frequent and widespread in Shanghai.
According to my well informed source, every time a high official from the Beijing CCCP comes to town, crackdowns will happen either the day before up to several days in advance.
Normally the places more at risk are the ones on the route (and vicinity) where the Official will travel. The local government will want to 'clean-up' those section to give away a good impression.
Also, I'm told, that most of the Pudong high traffic areas next to the Expo will be completely 'cleaned up' in anticipation of the large amount of tourist influx.
Last Tuesday, one of such visits happened, and the tell tale is a flurry of police officers stationed at every intersection and surrounding of the designated route. That means that at some point they will re-route traffic to allow a smooth transit of the official.
This will only become more and more frequent, as many more CCCP politicians will visit Shanghai and the progression of the Expo works.
Unfortunately Saunas, BBS's and all those places that aren't strictly 'legit' are at highest risk. Of course it has been explained to me that if any of these owners have high enough connections they will get a warning ahead of time and shut the business voluntarily until it is safe to re-open, usually with the excuse of a broken pipe or remodeling
Before, during and right after these periods it is best to take a rest and avoid any mongering in places at risk. How can you tell if a place is at risk? Like Applecrate pointed out, any Sauna or BBS strip/shop on a major artery (or vicinity) is at high risk, the ones that are hard to find and out of sight might be spared. Also, the ones on the fringes of the city and not easily accessible (too far) for your average tourist will be probably safe.
Interestingly, the same day (Tuesday night) that the CCCP official was in town, I happened to be with 2 local gov. Officials and other friends at a mid-high-end strip-KTV place (downtown). As a precaution all the stripping and 'games' were banned that day and for the rest of the week. The word is that from now on and until the Expo is over, KTV's seem to be the 'safer' places in town to meet girls. Many of them have 'take-out', which isn't a bad option considering that you spend at least a couple of hours getting to 'know' the girl. Obviously, it is a tedious process when one wants a quick fix, but in hard times like these, it is something to consider.
Lastly, the reason why KTV's are immune to raids is that they are the favorite 'past time' and business playground of most Chinese business men and the majority of government officials. Almost every city in China has several 'secret' spots where these guys spend their 'hard earned money' (pun intended). In general they classify in 2 categories, the super high-end members only deal, or the skanky/shady joints that will repel most people except the ones in 'the know'. I have been to one of those a few times and my first impression was I might have caught rabies or a similar just by stepping inside. Until I saw the lineup
Wobudong
[QUOTE=Applecrate]Several Objectives Could Be Achieved At Once
1. Enforcement authorities can demonstrate to their higher-ups that they are taking decisive action. They can point to B2's closure, with associated arrests, fines, and jail time as proof positive. This action is aligned with the Central Government's China-wide crackdown around the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] issue. (Coincidentally, April 9, the day of the raid, was the day before Good Friday, and Easter Weekend.)
2. Sends a signal to WGs and customers alike that real action is possible. Especially if you're in a location where authorities can walk in the front door, take three steps into the locker room, five steps to the changing area, do a right face and head to the main area. Within one minute – or less – authorities can be through the front door and knocking on massage rooms. My point: B2 was an easy target, compared to other venues where you've got to take elevators four or five floors to get to the lobby, 'run the gauntlet' through locker rooms and changing areas filled with floor attendants, and pass through a maze of confusing hallways to get to the massage rooms.
3. It cleans up this stretch of Century Avenue / Pudong Nan Lu underground subway area in advance of the 2010 World Expo where many foreigners could be walking by. Recently, there have been extensive renovations on both B1 and B2 levels of the subway concourse that cross over form Century Avenue toward and under World Plaza. Several new shops have opened, and others are being renovated and should open soon. Directly across from the B2 entrance, there's a very large area that has been recently remodeled. It stands to reason that planners would want an establishment in B2's location that's more fitting with other shops in the area. The subtext here is visibility: B2 was simply in a 'too visible' location. That's also true for many of the 'serious' street massage places. Think: out of sight…out of mind as a better way to go.
4. It drives more business into Sacrosa, which is nearby, and 'out of sight…out of mind'. Since business is somewhat slow, closing B2 simply drives more revenue into Sacrosa. Again, when times are slow, and Sacrosa has a RMB 550 deal before 7:00 pm, do you really need two saunas within one block of each other? And, again, out of sight, out of mind. The average 2010 Expo tourist will not stumble upon Sacrosa.
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I just wonder if we're giving too much away to LE by posting here? They're wise to block normal access to the site, why should they not be wise to comb it for intelligence?
Especially for places such as B2 that had become a staple of resident and visiting Lao Wais, and probably because of that less indispensable to local mongers?
Please get me right, I'm not advocating to stop posting altogether, but I have a feeling that we, B2 customers & posters, might have precipitated things (linked to poor or deteriorated connections to LE by B2 owners)....
I am/we are sure that police accessed the Beijing forum before the Olympics and acted/raided upon information gained there. There were also several strange posters with a history of only 2-3 posts asking blunt questions about tel numbers of certain girls. As a result 'senior' members didn't send specific information to posters without history or only, if they sent their mobile number via PM first. UOTE=Drainaps]I just wonder if we're giving too much away to LE by posting here? They're wise to block normal access to the site, why should they not be wise to comb it for intelligence?
Especially for places such as B2 that had become a staple of resident and visiting Lao Wais, and probably because of that less indispensable to local mongers?
Please get me right, I'm not advocating to stop posting altogether, but I have a feeling that we, B2 customers & posters, might have precipitated things (linked to poor or deteriorated connections to LE by B2 owners)....[/QUOTE]
I am/we are sure that police accessed the Beijing forum before the Olympics and acted/raided upon information gained there. There were also several strange posters with a history of only 2-3 posts asking blunt questions about tel numbers of certain girls. As a result 'senior' members didn't send specific information to posters without history or only, if they sent their mobile number via PM first. UOTE=Drainaps]I just wonder if we're giving too much away to LE by posting here? They're wise to block normal access to the site, why should they not be wise to comb it for intelligence?
Especially for places such as B2 that had become a staple of resident and visiting Lao Wais, and probably because of that less indispensable to local mongers?
Please get me right, I'm not advocating to stop posting altogether, but I have a feeling that we, B2 customers & posters, might have precipitated things (linked to poor or deteriorated connections to LE by B2 owners)....[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Globe Spinner]Thought I would give CL another try. Picked one at random, L**g L**g in her ad. Made the call, knock on the door 40 minutes later. Of course the girl wasn’t the girl in the ad. Started the usual RMB300 massage, followed by up sell to RMB2000. I laughed and said to keep rubbing, massage only is ok. 2000 became 1000, too lazy to go through it all again, I countered with 1500 for two hours. What transpired was the best GFE I have had in a long time. CBJ, multiple positions, multiple pops. She had one of the tightest I’ve ever had. She came 4-5 times, and wasn’t faking. Great sense of humor, fantastic attitude. This is a girl who loves her job. After two and a half hours, exhausted, we went to the shower together and she got junior standing at attention once again, but alas, he wasn’t up for the task. Face 6, Body 8, Service and Attitude 9+. Repeat? You bet. If you can’t figure out the **, PM me and I’ll give you her phone no. Be nice to her boys.[/QUOTE]
GS, maybe good for you but you PAID too much for her IMHO but hey your happy, thats all that counts.
PC out
Dear Sogetthis,
2 years ago I stayed in the Holiday Inn Downtown (near Shanghai Station) and.being innocent- went to the hotel sauna booking a massage. To be honest: the main reason for deciding this was the very short skirt and the fantastic body of the lady being offered for the massage. I remember she really gave me a very good massage (price was 200 RMB), but as usual started trying to convince me to give me a HJ (additional 200) which I couldn't resist. After finishing she offered to visit me in my room after her work at 2am. I was very tempted. But as it was my first evening in Shanghai I had other plans.
So I think also in the Holiday Inn Pudong everything is possible.
Shamuc
Yesterday by accident passed the BBS area in Wuzhong Lu and caught the eye of a beauty. Couldn't resist, very charming, fantastic face and body (tits perhaps a little bit small but still ok). I'm not so experienced with BBS so negotiated something for 300 RMB. To understand later that I "only" got a "tit job" (didn't find an abbreviation for that), first time experience for me and fine. I could finger her as I wanted.
It's in Wuzhong Lu no. 382 the right window (there are several), she's number 23. Really sweet.
"why should they not be wise to comb it for intelligence? "
Incredibly strange question to propose if you ask me. Why on earth waste the manpower of an employee with such incredibly sophisticated English that he could understand these forums, when you can already find prostitute info a magnitude of 100 times more numerous and detailed in Chinese. But anyway, ... why would that even be necessary? As if they don't know the addresses of the places paying protection money to them as-is?
[QUOTE=Pcpc1688]GS, maybe good for you but you PAID too much for her IMHO but hey your happy, thats all that counts.
PC out[/QUOTE]You're right, my friend, but my time is money too.
Parasitius,
I'm sorry to say you don't know them well enough if you doubt what Beijing Fox or I are saying. They're obsessed with intelligence from / on Lao Wai, and will go to extremes to get it. Makes them look much better with their superiors. You would also be surprised at their language skills. Your underestimating them, I'm sorry to say, is only linked to your not having enough flight hours on knowing them. Sorry to sound preposterous, but you should know better.....
[QUOTE=Parasitius]"why should they not be wise to comb it for intelligence? "
Incredibly strange question to propose if you ask me. Why on earth waste the manpower of an employee with such incredibly sophisticated English that he could understand these forums, when you can already find prostitute info a magnitude of 100 times more numerous and detailed in Chinese. But anyway, ... why would that even be necessary? As if they don't know the addresses of the places paying protection money to them as-is?[/QUOTE]
Drainaps is 100% correct.
Wobudong
[QUOTE=Drainaps]Parasitius,
I'm sorry to say you don't know them well enough if you doubt what Beijing Fox or I are saying. They're obsessed with intelligence from / on Lao Wai, and will go to extremes to get it. Makes them look much better with their superiors. You would also be surprised at their language skills. Your underestimating them, I'm sorry to say, is only linked to your not having enough flight hours on knowing them. Sorry to sound preposterous, but you should know better.....[/QUOTE]
While I am suitably impressed with your friendships in high places claim, would it not be of use to others to actually post the names and locations of these rabies infested amazing line up KTV's?
Or is it just horn blowing bullshit?
[QUOTE=Wobudong]
Lastly, the reason why KTV's are immune to raids is that they are the favorite 'past time' and business playground of most Chinese business men and the majority of government officials. Almost every city in China has several 'secret' spots where these guys spend their 'hard earned money' (pun intended). In general they classify in 2 categories, the super high-end members only deal, or the skanky/shady joints that will repel most people except the ones in 'the know'. I have been to one of those a few times and my first impression was I might have caught rabies or a similar just by stepping inside. Until I saw the lineup
Wobudong[/QUOTE]
Hi there,
Has anyone ever been to Adeline international? Its on 888 Panyu lu.
If not, I will try this
Thanks
Well maybe you have access or experience I don't know about, but at least from a purely logical standpoint it makes no sense whatsoever and seems extremely self-important and arrogant of everyone thus paranoid (IMHO) that the authorities should be so concerned with this little hub of info and the maybe 200 foreigners in Shanghai who frequent these saunas and maybe 1000 more who partake much more occasionally. (Seriously -- for all my trips to the former village and various saunas over the years and never seeing other foreigners, it is preposterous to estimate the number being a lot bigger than my wild guess. )
Think about this realistically... if they didn't want foreigners to be able to get sex services and that was their goal, it wouldn't take a few days of threats being passed back through pay-off connections before most saunas (of the 1000s) in town would agree to reject the petty 1%(most)-5% of revenues they are seeing from foreign clientel. IF they were so sneaky and so in the know, they would have had a sting meet with Dragon and others by now. None of the things that logically should be happening if the (self important) paranoia were true are happening. All we see is a random unexpected event here and there, probably due to bad relations somewhere in the chain, and there is no way I'm going to believe it is anything more until I see better proof. Look at Tongrenlu, do you honestly think they couldn't close that up if they wanted to keep foreigners from having access to paid pussy?
Do you want to explain to me why this site remained unblocked for ALL of these years until just recently if it really had such amazing 'special' status to the authorities? The fact that it took so long to get blocked clearly shows to me it is in the category of any other RANDOM site on the internet -- eventually the filter folks run into it completely by accident and block it, but no sooner.
[QUOTE=Drainaps]Parasitius,
I'm sorry to say you don't know them well enough if you doubt what Beijing Fox or I are saying. They're obsessed with intelligence from / on Lao Wai, and will go to extremes to get it. Makes them look much better with their superiors. You would also be surprised at their language skills. Your underestimating them, I'm sorry to say, is only linked to your not having enough flight hours on knowing them. Sorry to sound preposterous, but you should know better.....[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Parasitius]Well maybe you have access or experience I don't know about, but at least from a purely logical standpoint it makes no sense whatsoever and seems extremely self-important and arrogant of everyone thus paranoid (IMHO) that the authorities should be so concerned with this little hub of info and the maybe 200 foreigners in Shanghai who frequent these saunas and maybe 1000 more who partake much more occasionally. (Seriously -- for all my trips to the former village and various saunas over the years and never seeing other foreigners, it is preposterous to estimate the number being a lot bigger than my wild guess. )
Think about this realistically... if they didn't want foreigners to be able to get sex services and that was their goal, it wouldn't take a few days of threats being passed back through pay-off connections before most saunas (of the 1000s) in town would agree to reject the petty 1%(most)-5% of revenues they are seeing from foreign clientel. IF they were so sneaky and so in the know, they would have had a sting meet with Dragon and others by now. None of the things that logically should be happening if the (self important) paranoia were true are happening. All we see is a random unexpected event here and there, probably due to bad relations somewhere in the chain, and there is no way I'm going to believe it is anything more until I see better proof. Look at Tongrenlu, do you honestly think they couldn't close that up if they wanted to keep foreigners from having access to paid pussy?
Do you want to explain to me why this site remained unblocked for ALL of these years until just recently if it really had such amazing 'special' status to the authorities? The fact that it took so long to get blocked clearly shows to me it is in the category of any other RANDOM site on the internet -- eventually the filter folks run into it completely by accident and block it, but no sooner.[/QUOTE]
I somehow agree on your "numbers". The foreigners, in a town as Shangai, are a fraction of an appr 20 mill population. The locations are many and mainly cater for a chinese clientele. Certainly they do not know them from ISG. Maybe the authorities do not like certain news about mongering places are spreaded through the internet as put a "bad" light of the town. Thinking about the billions of internet users...all potentially coming to know about the great mongering places in Shangai.
The funny thing is that these places are so obvious for the locals but not for the foreigner. With the experience one can build a sense of identification of certain signs on buildings, but from there to close the stablishement on a road populated by foreigners.... it is quite weird.
There are tens of places - quite "respectable" openly advertising on the bulding, on the hotel front... The authorities do not like the establishments or they do not like the idea the foreign can see a "lot"of these forming an opinion?
A couple of weeks ago I have been in Shangai and went to a sauna, located above a KTV. At some point there were some noises, whilst I was cuddling with the girl in the room. She was alerted, all worried, trying to understand the reason of the noises and telling me "110...110" like the place was being raided (wasn't).
So, certainly something is going on!
Will it, can it last till the end of Expo 2010?
Quite a long time to the deadline, isn't it?
Can those establishments stay close for so long?
"State" reasons may suggest so, authorities do not care..until this action disturbs some other "authorities"....:)
PS does anybody know the starting and ending dates of the Expo?
Parasitius,
Without trying to make a dissertation (I'm not qualified anyway as I don't speak the language):
i) If you try to apply Western world logic to China on what's relevant or not, you'll often crash on takeoff. Statistics as you mention them are relevant to your (or my) western mind, but don't extrapolate much....
ii)Appearances (face) count more than facts (and not only in China.......) Acting on leads from here gives face. Anything Lao Wai-related gives double points, as I'm sure you know only too well.
iii) This site has a-grade intelligence. In my experience, it's not just "any site". Maybe the filter has come by by chance, but few chances after that. Sure you have roamed other sites and you have a Senior status here not by chance? Please think twice: if you keep coming here for sources, why they should not?
Besr.
[QUOTE=Parasitius]Well maybe you have access or experience I don't know about, but at least from a purely logical standpoint it makes no sense whatsoever and seems extremely self-important and arrogant of everyone thus paranoid (IMHO) that the authorities should be so concerned with this little hub of info and the maybe 200 foreigners in Shanghai who frequent these saunas and maybe 1000 more who partake much more occasionally. (Seriously -- for all my trips to the former village and various saunas over the years and never seeing other foreigners, it is preposterous to estimate the number being a lot bigger than my wild guess. )
Think about this realistically... if they didn't want foreigners to be able to get sex services and that was their goal, it wouldn't take a few days of threats being passed back through pay-off connections before most saunas (of the 1000s) in town would agree to reject the petty 1%(most)-5% of revenues they are seeing from foreign clientel. IF they were so sneaky and so in the know, they would have had a sting meet with Dragon and others by now. None of the things that logically should be happening if the (self important) paranoia were true are happening. All we see is a random unexpected event here and there, probably due to bad relations somewhere in the chain, and there is no way I'm going to believe it is anything more until I see better proof. Look at Tongrenlu, do you honestly think they couldn't close that up if they wanted to keep foreigners from having access to paid pussy?
Do you want to explain to me why this site remained unblocked for ALL of these years until just recently if it really had such amazing 'special' status to the authorities? The fact that it took so long to get blocked clearly shows to me it is in the category of any other RANDOM site on the internet -- eventually the filter folks run into it completely by accident and block it, but no sooner.[/QUOTE]
Zhongtan is near Maxdo.
[url]http://www.touch-net.net/nakada/index.htm[/url]
There is a coupon here
Nice try, Blacklisted.
With what has just been said about LE potentially snooping in this forum, how wise would it be to start compiling a detailed list?!
As for the horn blowing BS, you should try 151 at Shanxi nan lu and Jianguo lu in Shanghai, or the Rainbow room (ultra high end) and Top Show (local gov. favorite) in Suzhou.
Wobudong
[QUOTE=Blacklisted]While I am suitably impressed with your friendships in high places claim, would it not be of use to others to actually post the names and locations of these rabies infested amazing line up KTV's?
Or is it just horn blowing bullshit?[/QUOTE][blue]===============================================
Hi guys,
Just to put this in perspective:
There is no club, massage parlor, escort service, streetwalker location or other place described on this website that the local police don't already know about, with or without this website. Don't be so naive as to think that local LE doesn't already know what's going on in their town.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
That's a given, Jackson. Anyone who's lived in this Country long enough knows that local authorities have their respective cities mapped out better than anyone else. I would still encourage caution during this period to people visiting Shanghai for the first time or are not familiar with the environment. Bottom line. Better safe than sorry.
Cheers,
Wobudong
[QUOTE=Wobudong]Nice try, Blacklisted.
With what has just been said about LE potentially snooping in this forum, how wise would it be to start compiling a detailed list?!
As for the horn blowing BS, you should try 151 at Shanxi nan lu and Jianguo lu in Shanghai, or the Rainbow room (ultra high end) and Top Show (local gov. favorite) in Suzhou.
Wobudong
[blue]===============================================
Hi guys,
Just to put this in perspective:
There is no club, massage parlor, escort service, streetwalker location or other place described on this website that the local police don't already know about, with or without this website. Don't be so naive as to think that local LE doesn't already know what's going on in their town.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue][/QUOTE]
Returned to JJ's today and had a great time with no. 29 and no. 85. A good pair, both cute with good bodies. No. 85 from dongbei and the taller of the two. Both haad small but sof breasts. 85 was the more experienced and saucy of the two while 29 more playful and a little shy at times. Soapland shower good, AR and BJ quick but decent enough. Had sex wwith 29 1st then rammed it home with 85. Both felt great but I didn't really last long today. 29 hopped on my back afterwards for a piggy back ride around the room. Fun sexy girls.
29. From xian
Looks: 8
Body: 8-9
Attitude: 8
Performance: 6 (inexperienced)
85. From dongbei
Looks: 8-9
Body: 8
Attitude: 8
Performance: 8
Jackson brilliantly put it right: LE does not need ISG.
Most of the places we rate as mongering location not only are famous, popular, known but are clearly visible from the street. With their signs. More visible to the local (seen the fact they are in chinese) than to us. Period.
What we might want to protect, from time to time and special cases, is the identity of some girl in some country or some circumstances.
Eventough I have some doubts this has to be generalized.
The chances for some girl to be recognized (and as a result her having some personal problems) by someone seeing her on the web are certainly more than being seen by some acquantaince patronizing a venue or mongering at her job place. Nevertheless it is a real small percentage.
I once recognized a couple of (normal) girls I knew on a kinky website as they were photographed sunbathing in topless in a beach. Nothing bad for them, innocent topless on a beach is a normal practice worldwide. What was weird was the website, let's say "visuals erotic oriented".
Would have been "worst" for me to tell them were I saw them rather than "bad" for them (unvoluntary) appearing there :)
Much discussion on why LE stepped on us a few weeks before the Olympics, could this be the reason ?, I think so! This was posted on 25th July 2008, on Cityweekend Shanghai section.
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HOT SEX: The most popular blog post at CW Beijing
What follows is amazing. The most popular article BY FAR on [url]www.cityweekend.com.cn/beijing[/url]. And for good reason. People come to China for all sorts of reasons. Some come because they love Chinese language and culture. Others come to get rich, others for that noble expat goal of “finding oneself.” Then there is Clandestine782, a “reasonably well-endowed” senior member on the International Sex Guide forums. He came to China for another reason entirely. “I want to have some hot group sex,” writes Clandestine. “My friend and I would like two girls overnight in one room and one bed… I’ve been to many barbershops, but (we want girls that) are younger, tighter, and have marginally better attitudes.”
Expats like Clandestine can find answers to their sex tourism queries on the International Sex Guide forums ([url]http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/[/url]), an unashamed combination of wikipedia-esque prostitute knowledge and know-how, and a social networking site for likeminded sex “mongers”.
The forum professes to “facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women.” To this end, the site offers general information about where members can get the best bang for their buck. This includes information ranging from the price for various services, the specialties of individual prostitutes, and even accounts of negative experiences like that which one poster encountered with a working girl named Hebe. “Her English was good, but her choice of turn-on talk was a little creepy! Example, ‘You are a grandfather! You can be my grandfather and I am your little girl! I am very sympathetic to needs of grandfather!’ Ick!”
Beyond the righteous pursuit of helping sex tourists avoid creepy situations, the International Sex Guide offers assistance to those visitors to China whose language limitations might otherwise impede their ability to get the best possible service. For example, a senior member of the China board posting under the name Moody explains that “bai hu” or “white tiger” is the proper nomenclature when requesting that your prostitute be shaved. Moody also does his best to let mongers know how to break the ice with a working girl. “(Try saying) ‘wo shi chu nan, souyi xiaoxin yi dian’. It means, ‘I’m a virgin man, so be a little careful’. Almost always gets a smile.” Now, why wasn’t that in my Lonely Planet guide?
From opinions on the most passionate working girls (Mongolians) to advice on the best place to go for cheap sex if you are strapped for cash (university English corners), the rest of the site is chock full of helpful tidbits on China’s most stimulating offerings. However, even when posters like Typical Tourist describe their one time lovers with mathematical precision (“the girl from the BBS was a definite 6”), it can be hard for other mongers to really get a clear picture in their mind. Fortunately, the ISG solves this problem by providing premium users with the option to post their own pictures and view those of others. Although forum rules stipulate that you can’t just send in pictures of yourself, posters are encouraged to send in photos of girls they meet in any state of “dress or undress.” One of the more frequent posters, Scribe, attached his recent photos from a trip to Shenzhen with the caption, “Here's a girl from a few days ago. She was overflowing with wobbly bits, but in all the right places. 150 smackeroonies.” One poster, Eaglestar, uploaded pictures of himself actually engaged in sexual congress with a prostitute some decades his junior, writing “This girl absolutely goes bananas in cowgirl (also saves my energy, which at my advanced age is important). Must have had 3 orgasms on top. Damn I love it.”
No other option on the site appears as popular, or as helpful in accomplishing what seems to be one of the primary goals for posters – to sleep with and then compare notes on the same girls as their compatriots. Some may argue that the pictures are no different than run-of-the-mill pornography, but combined with detailed descriptions of cost and service they feel more like Zagat’s restaurant reviews than centerfolds. “They seem to serve like bizarre advertisements to help guys who are interested in finding and sharing the same girls,” notes Amy Sennett, an executive assistant working in Shanghai. “Looking at the threads, these guys seem more interested in meeting up with each other and swapping war stories than in getting to know any women.”
Even Pay, a research fellow based in Beijing, believes sites like the International Sex Guide are symptomatic of a larger issue in China. “Male expats outnumber females by a decent measure here. Conversations run sexual and, without women around, guys tell their dirtiest war stories. If one or two have drunkenly found themselves with hookers, their stories excuse and inspire further indiscretions. Like anything taboo that has been excused within one’s circle, visiting prostitutes can become a sort of bond.”
Whether or not this is true of the expat male population as a whole, the ISG forums certainly offer curious mongers-to-be a readymade social circle that celebrates and facilitates sex tourism. However, don’t think the ISG forums are without policies on morality. Although posting sexual descriptions, explicit pictures and contact information for working girls is encouraged, rules have been put in place banning words like “*****” and “****” that are considered demeaning to women. Members also abide by a strict code. When one poster named Tuscan Man talked about his habit of spending 56,000 RMB a month on prostitutes, others were appalled. One poster called Phill980 went so far as to rebuke Tuscan Man harshly for talking about paying such an obscene amount of money… on The Cheap Sex Thread. “Anybody who is willing to spend more than 300 RMB on a girl a night, should please shut the f*ck up in this section.”
Maybe they should shut the f*ck up all together.
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[QUOTE=Rick China]
According to the girls at a "serious" massage shop at Pu-Diang Rd (Pudong), almost all shops with sex service on the streets were raided and closed in the past 3 weeks. Even though their shop is "serious", many customers are afraid to come so their business is bad now.
So be careful![/QUOTE]
Business has been dead in the Laoshan Lu, Weifang Lu area since the Olympic shutdown, I heard of days in the past months, when Tequila had less than 1000 rmb takings., with a staff of 15!, this combined with many new smart salons opening in the past year. (and closing)
On April 28, I wanted to go to the B2. But when I arrived, I noticed it was closed. Apparently forever. Since I did not have access to this forum, I was not aware of the situation and the raid.
Then, I decided to go to the Zhongtian Sauna in Puxi (not far from the Sheraton Puxi hotel in Hongqiao). I have been there a couple of times in the past. It seems the place was not so crowded on that day.
After a short while of waiting, I am brought to the window with the lineup. It was not easy, and I took my time. On one side, I wanted big breasts, but also a slim performer. None really fulfilled all criteria. So, finally I decided for a pretty slim girl. I had more a bit the heavier ones (with good experience) in the past, but today my mood was for a slim one.
She had quite some makeup and was - from that perspective not necessarily my style. But the short hair and pretty face compensated.
We went then to the room, and I started to have some fun. She immediately joined in and enjoyed. Thanks to some limited mandarin, I could at least communicate a bit. We washed then each other, with particular attention to the strategic regions. Then, the famous / infamous body massage on the inflatable mattress. First, she gave me a body massage on my back, then I turned to the front side, and we played around. At the end, I was on top of her and gave her a body massage! It was absolutely great fun. We showered then together, and my xiao didi was already playing with her xiao meimei. I had to be careful and really keep control from my brain not to take her from bareback from the back. She was pretty tolerant. I also DATY'd her under the shower, and she got very exited.
We moved then to the bed, and it was absolutely great. She gave me an excellent BBBJ and then we did it in all kind of positions. Mish, cowgirl, doggy, reverse cowgirl, doggy again, mish again. She was very much into it and at the end came at least twice. She was very, very wet, and it was all real. We also had DFK and she was completely inhibited.
After a long while, I exploded, and it was perfect. She also enjoyed every second, and we used up all the available time. Then, we had some chat, and she gave me her mobile phone number. For the next session when in Shanghai. In fact, it was one of my best ever P4P experiences in my monger career.
She also told me her age and name. She says that she is 36 years old, but she looks like 25 maximum. Her body is very slim, but not too slim. Just sexy. Her tits are rather small, but with great shape.
Look: 8
Body: 8
Attitude: 10
Fun factor: 10
Repeat factor: high (even though I normally don't repeat)
Damage: 780 CNY (with VIP card)
Her number: 309.
If you ever have the chance to get her, please treat her very well. She deserves it, and you will have a great experience.
Wonderer
[QUOTE=Drainaps]I just wonder if we're giving too much away to LE by posting here? They're wise to block normal access to the site, why should they not be wise to comb it for intelligence?
Especially for places such as B2 that had become a staple of resident and visiting Lao Wais, and probably because of that less indispensable to local mongers?
Please get me right, I'm not advocating to stop posting altogether, but I have a feeling that we, B2 customers & posters, might have precipitated things (linked to poor or deteriorated connections to LE by B2 owners)....[/QUOTE]They probably do. But I think B2 was a perfect storm of circumstances. If it contributed at all it was only in small part. Only conjecture but.
The remodel of the B2 level for other businesses. The new business owners may have had something to say about it. And made some calls or the complained to the mall mgmt.
Also it would have been quite convenient for someone as well heeled as the folks that run Sacrosa (I mean they are very serious about this biz just opening HeTIng), to drop a few hints and a gift here and there to the their guanxi friends to see that the neighborhood just had one good choice.
It appeared to me that this operation was not quite so well funded as some of the other going up.
Probably other reason we can only guess at.
I was at my regular joint a couple of evenings ago. The manager told me that the police are doing their usual rounds of raiding the establishments by each district. They said it should be over in the next few weeks and things will return to normal.
The place I frequent has a particular system. On Tuesday evening, I called ahead a couple of hours before heading there and the manager would make sure my regular girl is available for me. Otherwise if you are not a regular and show up they will only offer normal massage.
The manager told me to be discreet therefore I am afraid I can't do so in the forum.
After B2 was closed and I could not find directions to Zhongtan, I followed the directions to "JJs" or should I say "Golden 18 Club"? Maybe we are talking about two different places, but that was the one I found in that building (Wullumuqi Bei Lu 209, 5th floor). Super-easy to find.
The place was great! The rooms all are in different styles, have a large shower to do the soapie or even Jakuzzi. All nicely decorated and clean, much better than Sacrosa or even SH hotel sauna in my opinion. Staff are very friendly.
The lineup in the afternoon (4pm) was about 10 girls, all from 6 upwards up to 9s. I gave the one with the largest grin a try, though she was "only" 8. Number 61, name Ling. Best choice ever.
During our first session that day when she showered me the door openend and a second girl came in. Although I have bad experience with two girls in China, I agreed for her to stay. They both cleaned me in the shower but I was only giving 61 attention, touched and kissed her gently until she finally opened up and we started deep kissing. The second one suddenly left and was never seen again. Not to worry: 61 did the soapy which I found rather silly but the way she did it made it still enjoyable. I was worried though that almost 50mins were gone, so I urged to move on to the bed and I made her hot by kissing her cute budy and then doing DATY. She screamed for enjoyment. We basically did it three times andd each time it was truly great. Total cost 790 for two (! ) hours with no rush and almost real GFE.
No wonder I went back there the next two evenings, each time around 11pm. Again good lineup but I selected 61 eveytime. Each time multiple positions, lots of kissing, playing in the Jakuzzi. You name it. A real Chinese GF. Only problem was her very limited english, so I did not care to take her phone number (how should I arrange anything?)
Hope the place survives the crackdowns until my next visit!
Point being WBD, is that if you are gonna brag about your 'connections' and wonderful KTV's, at least have the decency to follow up with details so that others can check them out. That is the purpose of the forum, and no-one is going to rebuke you for bragging if you follow up with all important details.
If you don't want to post them I fully understand, but how about an offer to senior members to PM for details? Would be a nice touch, no?
By the way, I am more interested in ultra low-end rabies joints you mentioned. High end is for pussies!! ha ha
JMHO
[QUOTE=Wobudong]Nice try, Blacklisted.
With what has just been said about LE potentially snooping in this forum, how wise would it be to start compiling a detailed list?!
As for the horn blowing BS, you should try 151 at Shanxi nan lu and Jianguo lu in Shanghai, or the Rainbow room (ultra high end) and Top Show (local gov. favorite) in Suzhou.
Wobudong
[blue]===============================================
Hi guys,
Just to put this in perspective:
There is no club, massage parlor, escort service, streetwalker location or other place described on this website that the local police don't already know about, with or without this website. Don't be so naive as to think that local LE doesn't already know what's going on in their town.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue][/QUOTE]
I'm going to be in Shanghai for three days next week, then on to Hangzhou for a month. It looks like you guys have a lot of good spots for some great experiences. I have a question though, what level of Chinese should I have? I basically know almost no Chinese even though I'm trying..I can speak Japanese (not that it helps much I assume) I was just wondering if any of the veterans around here can give me some tips.
[QUOTE=Theronbrown]I'm going to be in Shanghai for three days next week, then on to Hangzhou for a month. It looks like you guys have a lot of good spots for some great experiences. I have a question though, what level of Chinese should I have? I basically know almost no Chinese even though I'm trying..I can speak Japanese (not that it helps much I assume) I was just wondering if any of the veterans around here can give me some tips.[/QUOTE]Don't worry in most places they speak some english to survive. In most cases however the girls do not speak english at all. But this does not matter that much, it is easy to find out for them what you want with signs, etc. It is all about fun anyway.
[QUOTE=Low Dai]They probably do. But I think B2 was a perfect storm of circumstances. If it contributed at all it was only in small part. Only conjecture but.
The remodel of the B2 level for other businesses. The new business owners may have had something to say about it. And made some calls or the complained to the mall mgmt.
Also it would have been quite convenient for someone as well heeled as the folks that run Sacrosa (I mean they are very serious about this biz just opening HeTIng), to drop a few hints and a gift here and there to the their guanxi friends to see that the neighborhood just had one good choice.
It appeared to me that this operation was not quite so well funded as some of the other going up.
Probably other reason we can only guess at.[/QUOTE]Good observations in both cases. The area of B2 and B1 for that matter have been remodeled into a kind of Children's Theme Park. B1 has an arcade, and along the wall are those fun-house mirrors. The stair well headed down from B1 to B2 has new wall paper, again with bright colors and the children's playground theme. To be sure, B2 didn't fit the theme.
As for the Sacrosa obervation, again, I was thinking the same thing. The same folks who own Sacrosa own Heting Elite, which, probably has a lot of overhead. You can only drive so much business to Heting by giving out 168 RMB coupons a the front desk of Sacrosa. Any additional revenue driven into Sacrosa from the closing of B2 should help the owners cover overhead at Heting.
Certainly none of these things can be proven, but they are, nonetheless, plausible scenarios.
[QUOTE=JoyofSex]
Only problem was her very limited english, so I did not care to take her phone number (how should I arrange anything?)[/QUOTE]
I use two methods,
1. All phones can be connected to a PC, allowing messages to be read and of course translated, using google translate, babel fish, lingoes etc.
2. SMS from PC using a subscription to talk2china, again using google translate etc.
fz
Blacklisted, I wasn't bragging. It's inconvenient and unfortunate that it came across like that, it's one of the perils of typing messages, let alone from my phone. I just happen to do business with many gov. People and I just reported a few things of what I hear.
Anyway, if you check my message history, I have always provided ample information about places, addresses, details etc.
I noticed you're a KTV fan, just like me, so if you're after the low end places, it doesn't get better than Suzhou (proximity wise). For most locals, SZ is Shanghai's playground, it's cheaper and less 'commercial', and it definitely does not attract all the attention of LE and is unaffected by all the international events happening in SH.
I think you would enjoy the 'mini vegas' KTV strip on the outskirts of SZ. The place is known as Mudu Town in pinyin, or? In Mandarin.
Any cab driver knows the place. What you get is about 50 KTV's all lined up for you on both sides of the street. Definitely not high end, and with girls oozing from every establishment, it doesn't get more 'local' than that.
One of the hidden spots is Top Show, trust me, the place is a diamond in the rough. I can't recall the street address on top of my head, but I'll get a card next time I go back in the following weeks.
Peace,
Wobudong
[QUOTE=Blacklisted]Point being WBD, is that if you are gonna brag about your 'connections' and wonderful KTV's, at least have the decency to follow up with details so that others can check them out. That is the purpose of the forum, and no-one is going to rebuke you for bragging if you follow up with all important details.
If you don't want to post them I fully understand, but how about an offer to senior members to PM for details? Would be a nice touch, no?
By the way, I am more interested in ultra low-end rabies joints you mentioned. High end is for pussies!! ha ha
JMHO[/QUOTE]
I was in Shanghai for business a couple of weeks ago. It seems like Singapore's Orchard Tower is better and cheaper than Tongren Lu, so I skipped that and instead went to check out the BBS scene. A couple of posts referred to Xiaomuqiao Lu, and sure enough there is a long stretch with BBS stores between Xietu Lu and the highway.
This was about 4 in the afternoon, so no traffic and a couple of the places were closed. I walked down the entire street (from north to south), checking out the goods. The girls weren't that attractive in my book, but I saw a 7 in the last store on the left. Of course that was through the glass door. She was a 6 at best in reality.
By then my little brother was doing the thinking, so I let her lead me to a partitioned area in the back of the cramped room. She asked if I'd been to their store before, to which I said, "No, but I've been to other stores on this street. " I figured this response, though a flat-out lie, would at least ensure she didn't jack up the price on me.
She asked what I wanted to do, and I told her I wanted full service. She asked if she could do the blowjob with a condom. I noticed it was a pretty dirty place with no bathroom. I figured her hygiene couldn't possibly be that great, so I said yes.
She went down on me for about 30 seconds, then popped up and decided that it was time to move onto the main course.
She lied back on the massage bed, pulled her jeans down to her ankles (not even the one-leg method), lifted her legs and told me to stick it in. When I complained, she said that if girls are wearing jeans, that means they don't usually have sex, so I should be grateful. By this point I was having serious second thoughts, but I figured I'd come this far already.
I was trying to get a good, comfortable pace going, but the girl clearly wanted to out the door as quickly as possible, and starting shifting under me as quickly as possible. I let her know that throwing my rhythm off wasn't going to help anyway, so she stopped and just laid there like a dead fish. Ironically, after a couple of pushes and pulls, a fish-like odor started coming out of her twat. My erection started dying down, and I just went faster in the hopes that it would all be over soon. For the first time in a long time I came but didn't actually feel any sort of physical pleasure.
I cleaned up, handed her 120 RMB and got the hell out of there.
That was pretty traumatic, so I didn't have any desire for sex for the rest of my trip. My trip was only two days, but still. I had planned to try out the red rope thing at a sauna.
So at least I learned a couple of valuable lessons that I thought I'd pass on to other people into the BBS scene:
- Unless it's the winter, try to avoid the girls with jeans and other tough-access clothing. Even if it's not intentional, they probably unconsciously want to limit contact.
- If you must go with a BBS, try to find a bigger one that has a bathroom in it. The girls are more likely to rinse and clean up in between sessions. (I swear, the smell is still in my nose! )
If just two of you heed this advice, my 120 RMB lesson will have been worth it. Sort of.
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[QUOTE=Fuzimiao]I use two methods,
1. All phones can be connected to a PC, allowing messages to be read and of course translated, using google translate, babel fish, lingoes etc.
2. SMS from PC using a subscription to talk2china, again using google translate etc.
fz[/QUOTE]Good idea. Now I somehow regret not knowing anything about her. Or never seeing her again.
Hi,
I would just like to report that happy town (search the forum if you are not familiar with this address) has developed with a lot of new BBS places. Many young and beautiful girls. For a foreigner 150 RMB FS per shot. No need to pay more. A bit annoying are the many police cars going up and down the street.
Recently picked a Filipino girl from Ton Ren Lu. Always a bit pricey to pick a girl there, but they speak good English (nice to chat with) and are very GFE. Had a very good night.
It is just personal preference if you prefer BBS, Sauna, KTV or Bar girls.
Good luck, Ding Ding.
A while back I visited Heting Elite Sauna and it was a mixed experience.
The best option of getting there is by taxi. No subway stop nearby.
The facilities are nice and its good that they have a fluent english speaker as manager. The cost was 798 but if you did not want a receipt you got 100 off. Still, in other saunas I have been I have gotten a 90min session and an extra massage for 698.
The room was nice but way to hot. Tried to get the temperature down but it was still somewhat unpleasant.
The session was a standard sauna session with cat bath and hot and cold bbbj. Nothing memorable about the session at all unfortunately. Maybe I was unlucky with the girl I picked, but since I told the manager it was my first time I think he could have suggested a good performer, but instead he left me with only a chinese speaking guy at the fish bowl.
Will try other saunas before I even think about returning.
[QUOTE=Qubei]A while back I visited Heting Elite Sauna and it was a mixed experience.
The best option of getting there is by taxi. No subway stop nearby.
The facilities are nice and its good that they have a fluent english speaker as manager. The cost was 798 but if you did not want a receipt you got 100 off. Still, in other saunas I have been I have gotten a 90min session and an extra massage for 698.
The room was nice but way to hot. Tried to get the temperature down but it was still somewhat unpleasant.
The session was a standard sauna session with cat bath and hot and cold bbbj. Nothing memorable about the session at all unfortunately. Maybe I was unlucky with the girl I picked, but since I told the manager it was my first time I think he could have suggested a good performer, but instead he left me with only a chinese speaking guy at the fish bowl.
Will try other saunas before I even think about returning.[/QUOTE]I agree with you. I was there twice. The atmosphere is one of the best, but the girls I had were also very standard in their performance. I guess the owner of this place (same as Sarcosa) should know by now that we want the girls that do something extra (..) during the session.
Anyway: too high price for the value
Hi guys,
I just want to share something I could imagine happening here.
I regularly go to 999 and picked different girls. One time a few weeks ago I picked one that matched very well, lots of fun and also got her phone number. Next time I went to 999 again and asked for her specifically to the 'bell boy'. She was very happy to see me and that I picked her upfront.
Now comes the story: Today I was there again, asked for her and in the pre-room I asked if she had a friend who can join us. I deliberately asked if she likes that. If not, then I did not want to spoil our ususal fun. She agreed, left the room and came back with her friend. Very good looking and I agreed that she would join us.
We had a lot of fun. The 2nd girl started DFK me and I did not resist. However, everytime I wanted to touch my regular on the hot spots she started resisiting, which was odd. I asked if she was ok and she looked quite angry to me. Anyway we continued we had still fun for 70 min. At the end the 2nd girl left the room and then she started 'beating' me a bit and I asked why? My Chinese is not so good and she does not speak english but she said: you and her NO kiss. ! Turns out she was very angry with me because I kissed her friend. During our own very first session we started kissing after 30 min or so and that was apparently very special to her.
What did I learn from this?
- Kissing is not so normal for all working girls. And if they resist in the beginning and they do it in the end it is considered as very special (at least for some of them)
- Jealously exists (on a significant scale) within the panyu working girls
I 'apologized' at the end and she even said to not call her anymore (like she was my girlfriend. ! And note: I only saw her twice before.)
But when I left she made the sign to call her again and she smiled and gave me a hug. Playing hard to get. Yeah right. Only for money.
Or not? . Who knows. This was just something I wanted to share with you guys. I will never get through this culture
Saunas are always a bit like a lottery. The experience always depends on what type of girl you end up with. It doesn't depend much on the location
As a frequent visitor to various saunas I would say 10% really good, 50% satisfactory, 40% bad. That is why some guys always re-visit the same girl, once they find a great performer.
[QUOTE=Qubei]A while back I visited Heting Elite Sauna and it was a mixed experience.
The best option of getting there is by taxi. No subway stop nearby.
The facilities are nice and its good that they have a fluent english speaker as manager. The cost was 798 but if you did not want a receipt you got 100 off. Still, in other saunas I have been I have gotten a 90min session and an extra massage for 698.
The room was nice but way to hot. Tried to get the temperature down but it was still somewhat unpleasant.
The session was a standard sauna session with cat bath and hot and cold bbbj. Nothing memorable about the session at all unfortunately. Maybe I was unlucky with the girl I picked, but since I told the manager it was my first time I think he could have suggested a good performer, but instead he left me with only a chinese speaking guy at the fish bowl.
Will try other saunas before I even think about returning.[/QUOTE]
That's good info, appreciated and apologies for being harsh back there.
What sort of prices are we talking for this neighborhood?
[QUOTE=Wobudong]Blacklisted, I wasn't bragging. It's inconvenient and unfortunate that it came across like that, it's one of the perils of typing messages, let alone from my phone. I just happen to do business with many gov. People and I just reported a few things of what I hear.
Anyway, if you check my message history, I have always provided ample information about places, addresses, details etc.
I noticed you're a KTV fan, just like me, so if you're after the low end places, it doesn't get better than Suzhou (proximity wise). For most locals, SZ is Shanghai's playground, it's cheaper and less 'commercial', and it definitely does not attract all the attention of LE and is unaffected by all the international events happening in SH.
I think you would enjoy the 'mini vegas' KTV strip on the outskirts of SZ. The place is known as Mudu Town in pinyin, or? In Mandarin.
Any cab driver knows the place. What you get is about 50 KTV's all lined up for you on both sides of the street. Definitely not high end, and with girls oozing from every establishment, it doesn't get more 'local' than that.
One of the hidden spots is Top Show, trust me, the place is a diamond in the rough. I can't recall the street address on top of my head, but I'll get a card next time I go back in the following weeks.
Peace,
Wobudong[/QUOTE]
No problem.
Usually a room (they are all smallish), as these aren't the Palace size type KTV's, will run you not more than 1, 000rmb. Tip for the girls are about 200, then if you take out it is between 400 and 600. Keep in mind that I always go there with locals, so your mileage may vary.
The skanky one (Top Show) is a little more than 1000 (all inclusive for the room), but the girls take out tips vary a lot depending on the quality. Let's say 400 for low end up to 1200 for the gems.
Surprisingly, the 151 Club in SH, is not much more expensive, it largely depends if you go for whisky/brandy or stick with beer. Girl take out is between 800 for the 'normal' girls or 1200, for the 'blue-tag' ones who are those cube platform dancer types you see at dance clubs around town.
At 151, several do speak a little English and some are almost fluent.
I'll post the Top Show info most likely in mid June when I am back to SZ.
Cheers,
Wobudong
[QUOTE=Blacklisted]That's good info, appreciated and apologies for being harsh back there.
What sort of prices are we talking for this neighborhood?[/QUOTE]
Jackson is absolutely right in saying that LE knows better about mongering places than we do. This is their job and not their hobby.
However, before every international event like the Olympics or the Expo 'they' get quite paranoid about coverage in the international press about prostitution, sexual traficking, etc. that is why they focus on the 'establishments' frequented by foreigners i.e. Places known to the foreign community. We experienced that in Beijing last year and it will probably be the same for the Expo.
Please be careful with whom you share addresses and telephone numbers. A relative safe way may be to use PM, or request a tel number to response to information requests by sms.
So, I'll start by saying I should have done a bit more RTFF before venturing out. After some pleasant experiences in Beijing, I ran into some trouble in Shanghai about. Went to a KTV and after a very short time decided to leave. The "bill" was no where near what was discussed and the more I protested, the more large and angry looking Chinese men showed up. The whole thing set me back over $1, 000 USD. I put it on a credit card (cause I certainly didn't have that kind of cash on me). Has anyone else made this mistake before? Any luck protesting the charge with the CC company? I scrawled a very illegible signature and they did not imprint my card (although they did swipe it). I'm so pissed at myself right now and am hoping there may be some form of recourse.
Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
I fully agree, Beijing Fox.
- For one, to Jackson's point, LE is REALLY well informed of what's going on, in China of all places. There's no debating that.
-At the same time, to Beijing Fox' point, and repeating myself from a few posts ago, these raids are selective in that they're not aimed at cutting the whole thing down (which could be done in NO TIME if they wished, no more than 2 months), but at PRETENDING that the whole thing is being put under control, just for looks.
-Premium targets are popular Lao Wai joints, as these are the ones that might get wider coverage with local Expat residents and Forums like this one, plus the international press. Who cares in London if a local massage parlor has been raided in Hebei and a bunch of locals taken into custody for a few weeks?
-Local LE can easily get intelligence here on what's popular with Lao Wai, there's no debating that. I'm convinced that B2 ran into hard times in part because of that (linked to maybe connections going sour, etc), and others will too.
-Well connected joints will be tipped off before anything happens, unless something grossly illegal goes on. There's no debating about that. That info is usually passed on to FOREIGN regular customers by the girls themselves.
-Again, I'm not an expert but I think I understand the country reasonably well. You can take my advice for what it's worth, but I'd recommend that visiting Lao Wai:
-Stick to well-known places popular with LOCALS, which means that they have the strongest connections (and will want to avoid the embarrassment of a high-profile official being caught there).
-Sauna joints of less well known LOCAL hotels (like Merrylin Sauna in Pudong, in front of Inter Continental Hotel)
-Small, isolated neighborhood places, NOT being part of a "strip" as was the case in Pudong Nan Lu / Wei Fang Lu BBSs.
-Or take away from places like TRL, where nothing "obvious" happens on the premises.
IMHO, higher risk venues are:
-Sauna places with high Lao Wai to Local Ratio (as was the case with B2).
-In central business areas of town (again, B2).
-Or lower-quality places being part of a strip where it's blatantly obvious what's going on, and neighbors will have complained to LE for sure (such as BBS strip in Pudong Nan Lu). Neighborhood complaints are becoming more and more taken care of these days, and local politicians and media pay a lot of attention to that.
Would I stop mongering altogether these days? No, but I'd certainly keep more vigilant.
Best,
[QUOTE=Beijing Fox]Jackson is absolutely right in saying that LE knows better about mongering places than we do. This is their job and not their hobby.
However, before every international event like the Olympics or the Expo 'they' get quite paranoid about coverage in the international press about prostitution, sexual traficking, etc. that is why they focus on the 'establishments' frequented by foreigners i.e. Places known to the foreign community. We experienced that in Beijing last year and it will probably be the same for the Expo.
Please be careful with whom you share addresses and telephone numbers. A relative safe way may be to use PM, or request a tel number to response to information requests by sms.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Relaxedinmd]So, I'll start by saying I should have done a bit more RTFF before venturing out. After some pleasant experiences in Beijing, I ran into some trouble in Shanghai about. Went to a KTV and after a very short time decided to leave. The "bill" was no where near what was discussed and the more I protested, the more large and angry looking Chinese men showed up. The whole thing set me back over $1, 000 USD. I put it on a credit card (cause I certainly didn't have that kind of cash on me). Has anyone else made this mistake before? Any luck protesting the charge with the CC company? I scrawled a very illegible signature and they did not imprint my card (although they did swipe it). I'm so pissed at myself right now and am hoping there may be some form of recourse.
Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]
Relaxedinmd,
It also happened to me and I felt violated. So, here's what I did. I signed a different name on the receipt, lost the card on a busy street and then reported it lost/stolen. When I checked on recent charges I found one that I did not make and it was removed without any issue. I had to file a claim but got the money back.
Not proud of it but I would do it again as I felt they were fraudulent charges.
MD40
[QUOTE=Maddog40]Relaxedinmd,
It also happened to me and I felt violated. So, here's what I did. I signed a different name on the receipt, lost the card on a busy street and then reported it lost/stolen. When I checked on recent charges I found one that I did not make and it was removed without any issue. I had to file a claim but got the money back. Not proud of it but I would do it again as I felt they were fraudulent charges. MD40[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice. Adding to my stupidity, I did try to use the card at the ATM today. Wonder if that would make the "lost/stolen card" claim any more difficult since obviously the ATM machine will have me on camera attempting to use it today.
Thanks for the tip!
I went ther this afternoon, at least I think I was there.
Reading the forum I exit at Lian Hua Lu Subway station. Took the North exit towards carrefour. However I could not find anything around this big (shopping) building.
Then tried my luck at the other side of the subway line (I would call this east, looking at the map). I walked down Luo xiu Lu and then after a few 100 meter you find many BBS. I walked into one with many young pretty girls. I chose one which was a stunner, wow, never seen that in BBS downtown. She did regular massage, allowed touching, FIV and finished with HJ. All for 50 RMB, not bad at all for about 40 min. FS was not available in this BBS.
It was good, but still don't know if this is what you refer to as Happy town
Anyone advise?
[QUOTE=Ding Ding]Hi,
I would just like to report that happy town (search the forum if you are not familiar with this address) has developed with a lot of new BBS places. Many young and beautiful girls. For a foreigner 150 RMB FS per shot. No need to pay more. A bit annoying are the many police cars going up and down the street.
QUOTE]
One of my babes sent me a sms to tell me they fixed everything and B2 WP has opened again.
Did not double check yet but I thought people on this forum may be interested.
[QUOTE=Relaxedinmd]So, I'll start by saying I should have done a bit more RTFF before venturing out. After some pleasant experiences in Beijing, I ran into some trouble in Shanghai about. Went to a KTV and after a very short time decided to leave. The "bill" was no where near what was discussed and the more I protested, the more large and angry looking Chinese men showed up. The whole thing set me back over $1, 000 USD. I put it on a credit card (cause I certainly didn't have that kind of cash on me). Has anyone else made this mistake before? Any luck protesting the charge with the CC company? I scrawled a very illegible signature and they did not imprint my card (although they did swipe it). I'm so pissed at myself right now and am hoping there may be some form of recourse.
Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]Dear Relaxedinmd,
1, 5 years ago when having a business trip to Shanghai the same happened to me (when I told them that I do not want the girl to go with me they suddenly served heaps of fruits and drinks. I immediately said I leave; the bill was 10x higher than what I ordered). Sumo ringer behind me. Finally paid by cc, using a wrong signature. Back home in Good Old Europe I refused the payment of this cc invoice.
Story: "I ordered the bill and did the fault to already hand over the card upfront, then they came with this much to high amount, I refused to sign the slip and finally negotiated that they can get all my cash money; unfortunately they did not give me back the already created but NOT signed slip. " I had to make a police note in Germany. Finally got the money back.
Hope this helps you. Good Luck! Shamuc
Dear All,
Can someone point me to me the exact location of the BBS at Wei Fang Road.
I started walking from Wei Fang Road till the end at Wei Fang West Road, can't see any BBS. Are they closed or are they located in the small lanes? I walk into some other lanes, can only see massage shops but can't find any BBS.
Regards,
Vietnamboy
Why have your PM shut off!
There are several. If you begin at Pudong Lu and head away from the river, there are two which I have not tried on the right side in the first block. There are three massage shops on the same block on the left side. Tequila is the center one. The next shop past it is a BBS which I have sampled and it is a cut above since it has a shower. Then if you cross the next intersection, theres a good one on the right side. Then a couple across from the Intercontinental, plus a really nice massage shop.
Been gone several months but miss the heck out of them!!!
Guybert56
[QUOTE=Vietnamboy]Dear All,
Can someone point me to me the exact location of the BBS at Wei Fang Road.
I started walking from Wei Fang Road till the end at Wei Fang West Road, can't see any BBS. Are they closed or are they located in the small lanes? I walk into some other lanes, can only see massage shops but can't find any BBS.
Regards,
Vietnamboy[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Relaxedinmd]So, I'll start by saying I should have done a bit more RTFF before venturing out. After some pleasant experiences in Beijing, I ran into some trouble in Shanghai about. Went to a KTV and after a very short time decided to leave. The "bill" was no where near what was discussed and the more I protested, the more large and angry looking Chinese men showed up. The whole thing set me back over $1, 000 USD. I put it on a credit card (cause I certainly didn't have that kind of cash on me). Has anyone else made this mistake before? Any luck protesting the charge with the CC company? I scrawled a very illegible signature and they did not imprint my card (although they did swipe it). I'm so pissed at myself right now and am hoping there may be some form of recourse.
Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]There are a great number of rip off KTV's in Shanghai. You may have been lucky enough to have found one on your own, but generally these are the places a tout will take you to. Never, ever go to any place recommended by a tout, taxi driver or other Chinese person you don't know. Even if you meet a girl on the street and she wants to take you somewhere, don't go. Your story is exactly how it works, there is never any girl or a good time, it is always a large bill with lots of big Chinese guys. More so, I would never go to a KTV on my own, only in a group with at least someone who has been there before and knows the place. KTV's are expensive in their own right, but the good one's can be fun. The large one's with lots of people coming and going are generally safe. A small one, with no people, almost hidden, is a big danger sign. Once you are in one of these places, you will not get out without a fight or payment. Any place that starts putting things in front of you without your ordering it from a menu, has you in big trouble. The Julu Lu bars were also known for this in the past, but seem to have cleaned up their act somewhat. Regardless, I don't go there on my own either. Its not just Shanghai either, there are these places in the other cities throughout China. The other scam that is very popular, a large group of foreigners go into a bar, having a good time with many girls. The bill comes and it seems as if you've bought drinks for the whole city. I saw one group, two hours, and their bill was 45, 000 RMB. This was on Tongren Lu too. Always watch your bill and never let the girls order drinks on their own. My opinion is that China is not the place to go looking on your own for that out of the way place not frequented by tourists and given an opportunity even the safest places will look to rip you off.
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[QUOTE=Relaxedinmd]The "bill" was no where near what was discussed and the more I protested, the more large and angry looking Chinese men showed up. The whole thing set me back over $1, 000 USD. I put it on a credit card (cause I certainly didn't have that kind of cash on me).[/QUOTE]
This sounds like a thuggy variant of the "Shanghai Teahouse Scam," where some pretty young thing shows you around town and finally to a teahouse, where she orders things off a Chinese menu you can't read and are presented with an astronomical bill. I think I've heard of people involving the police and/or their credit-card companies to get the charge nullified.
Hello everybody,
Following my latest post, I have not received much recommendations from you on my quest of girls with very large tits in Shanghai.
I wonder if you have any recommendations on some BBS, saunas or appartment girls with VERY LARGE racks...
I am not interested not the usually push-up bra C cups that you see in many places around town but the ones with really heavy breast, sometimes from over-sized girls and plumps.
I will be happy to share my own contacts if any of you like the same type of girls, just PM me.
Hi guys,
After my stay in Zhuhai, I'm off to Shanghai.
As my first visit to sauna wasn't too successful (see my report in the Zhuhai section), and as my mandaring language skills are almost zero, I think I'll stay away from saunas for the time being (also RTFF about LE going to saunas).
I might try to find a freelancer in the discos on Tongren Lu or similar places or in my hotel (staying in a hotel near Peoples Square). Any specific recommendations? I have a week spot for the philippinas, but any other GFE-like girl is ok.
Thanks,
F
The majority of the filipinas on Tongren now are at Manhattans. There are so many in there now that most will agree to 800RMB LT
Judys has a new rule that the working girls can enter anytime, but they can not exit until 4AM unless they are escorted by a male.
[QUOTE=Beijing Fox]Jackson is absolutely right in saying that LE knows better about mongering places than we do. This is their job and not their hobby.
However, before every international event like the Olympics or the Expo 'they' get quite paranoid about coverage in the international press about prostitution, sexual traficking, etc. that is why they focus on the 'establishments' frequented by foreigners i.e. Places known to the foreign community. We experienced that in Beijing last year and it will probably be the same for the Expo.
Please be careful with whom you share addresses and telephone numbers. A relative safe way may be to use PM, or request a tel number to response to information requests by sms.[/QUOTE]
I agree, LE know way more about mongering places than we ever will. They all know who run these places, how they operate, etc.
Saunas and other places in the mongering trade can't open their doors unless there is a monthly "red envelope" involved.
For those of you who can't figure out who gets the red envelope you have a lot more to learn how things in China work.
MAB
If you're interested, I can put you in contact with a big Mongolian girl with big, big breasts in Beijing.She can squeeze all that little seeds out of you.
[QUOTE=Bblover]Hello everybody,
Following my latest post, I have not received much recommendations from you on my quest of girls with very large tits in Shanghai.
I wonder if you have any recommendations on some BBS, saunas or appartment girls with VERY LARGE racks...
I am not interested not the usually push-up bra C cups that you see in many places around town but the ones with really heavy breast, sometimes from over-sized girls and plumps.
I will be happy to share my own contacts if any of you like the same type of girls, just PM me.[/QUOTE]
I gave Wullumuqi Bei Lu 209 a try today. Its convenient to the subway and the room is pretty comfortable. The selection of girls was not so great and could not see 61 around. So I took a shot at number 5. She brought in a friend number 8 who seemed much more into me than number 5. I was thinking if I should switch girls at that point but not sure how that would go over.
Number 5 went through the routine and got the job done, but can't rank it too high. Might have to go back and try out another girl in the future.
[QUOTE=JoyofSex]After B2 was closed and I could not find directions to Zhongtan, I followed the directions to "JJs" or should I say "Golden 18 Club"? Maybe we are talking about two different places, but that was the one I found in that building (Wullumuqi Bei Lu 209, 5th floor). Super-easy to find.
The place was great! The rooms all are in different styles, have a large shower to do the soapie or even Jakuzzi. All nicely decorated and clean, much better than Sacrosa or even SH hotel sauna in my opinion. Staff are very friendly.
The lineup in the afternoon (4pm) was about 10 girls, all from 6 upwards up to 9s. I gave the one with the largest grin a try, though she was "only" 8. Number 61, name Ling. Best choice ever.
During our first session that day when she showered me the door openend and a second girl came in. Although I have bad experience with two girls in China, I agreed for her to stay. They both cleaned me in the shower but I was only giving 61 attention, touched and kissed her gently until she finally opened up and we started deep kissing. The second one suddenly left and was never seen again. Not to worry: 61 did the soapy which I found rather silly but the way she did it made it still enjoyable. I was worried though that almost 50mins were gone, so I urged to move on to the bed and I made her hot by kissing her cute budy and then doing DATY. She screamed for enjoyment. We basically did it three times andd each time it was truly great. Total cost 790 for two (! ) hours with no rush and almost real GFE.
No wonder I went back there the next two evenings, each time around 11pm. Again good lineup but I selected 61 eveytime. Each time multiple positions, lots of kissing, playing in the Jakuzzi. You name it. A real Chinese GF. Only problem was her very limited english, so I did not care to take her phone number (how should I arrange anything? )
Hope the place survives the crackdowns until my next visit! [/QUOTE]
I will be going to Shanghai tomorrow. I was looking forward very much to trying out the following saunas:
1) Shanghai Hotel
2) 999
3) Sacrosa
4) Heting
5) B2
After reading about some of the busts, a little concerned about LE. I cannot cannot cannot afford to be arrested in China! Could members please tell me which saunas should be safe, and which to avoid? I read a lot about raids and B2, but also saw a report that it had been re-opened. Not sure what that means to the current chances of being busted. Please advise!
Many thanks.
Makeupaname,
You mentioned Fili girls that are 800? What about ST?
How can they charge way more than Chinese? The Philipines is poor. Surprised they can get away with that.
I am interested to try but not at that price.
F
Guys,
I see a few scam reports, so I will report some past experiences and near misses.
1. I was walking around some BBS which was near a construction area. Some woman on a bike rode by and ask if I want to massage. She only asked for 50rmb which was the first tip off.
I followed her with my guard up. Into some local klaptrap housing, in a room, locked the door and it had a very "romantic" decorated bed. She told me to undress, lay down and start the massage. I told her to lay undress and lay down first. She continually pushed me to and not her. I knew this was a scam so just as I collect my things and open the door, another Chinese guy was tryong to quietly open the door. If I was lucky the worst would have been that he would steal my stuff, or not lucky he would try to threaten me. I walked out just as he was trying to walk in and he was surprised to see me. Be on high alert following girls into places you are not familiar.
2. Recently on Chang Hua rd, I met several bike girls. One really cute one. They asked me to follow them but I wouldn't. 2 of them agreed to find anyplace, hotel, my room, outside and they can do the deed. In this case maybe it is safer since they are not bringing you to a preset rip off place.
3. Another time I did a Tong Ren lu I picked up some street girl and we went to a secluded place in a park. After doing her doggie, I noticed my 1, 200rmb gone from my pocket. I checked her pockets and bag and nothing.
Later I realized that as she was bent over, she can dig in my pocket, shove it in her socks and I would never notice. Now I move my money and phone to either a shirt or jacket pocket where she can't reach it.
There are tea house, and KTV scams which I have been lucky to avoid.
Fbnc
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tried out a crusty sauna place opposite crowne plaza hotel puxi. have no idea of the side street, but the hotel/theatre complex also fronts xinhua lu.
staff werent really helpful and the furnishings are cheap. i was feeling sketchy going in. had a shower and waited in a room until the manager sent in about 5 girls. none of them really knocked me out. manager spoke some english and wanted me to take 158 who was tall with huge breasts but she didn't really appeal to me so i chose a shy 126.
she led me to a sparse room with a mirrow, one cheap painting and a bed. she looked very shy and perhaps a little nervous so i hugged and started kissing her. without storming onto her duties she let ne slowly undress her and dfk her. hmm. maybe i can crack a gfe out of this? as her clothes peeled off she revealed a nice set of breasts and decent enough body. she let me devour all her body and while she started out shy, she was soon moaning with a wet, wimpering orgasm. great stuff. she seemed highly suprised by it and was now all smiles instead of her initial cold shy 'why am i doing this job' attitude. i moved onto main course and was able to last a good deal of time with her. she didn't really do much but thats ok. i sometimes can't last long when the usual sauna girls go through their check lists endlessly ggetting yo hard and soft and then leave you 5 minutes of time for the good stuff at the end. it was nice for a change to be in control and not endure endless catbaths and spitting into buckets. we tried multiple positions, kissing the whole time and finally rammed home like a 100m track athlete pistoning away. she loved it. while shy, she seemed to really open up from the gfe and appeared to be a caring girl deep down rather than a sexy or fun girl. she gently wiped away my mess and sweaty body, cuddled me, gave me her ph number and i left back for the outside world.
i've had a lot of automated experiences with sauna's in shanghai lately (with the exception of heting) and it was enjoyable to have more 'loving' sex despite the dive venue.
looks: 7
body: 8 (good tits)
attitude: shy
gfe: 8
price: 680rmb...expensive considering
After a 6 month hiatus, I have returned to SH. This time on the Pusi side. Hope to find some comfort spots closer to the domestic airport.
GB56
[QUOTE=One Eyed Man]This sounds like a thuggy variant of the "Shanghai Teahouse Scam," where some pretty young thing shows you around town and finally to a teahouse, where she orders things off a Chinese menu you can't read and are presented with an astronomical bill. I think I've heard of people involving the police and/or their credit-card companies to get the charge nullified.[/QUOTE]Too all of you that have offered some advice on this subject, looks like the CC company is going to remove the charge. What a relief! I'm no longer in Shanghai, but will be again for a few months early next year. Never again will I get into something that hasn't been discussed here.
If anyone needs any help on the East coast in the states, feel free to PM me.
[QUOTE=Formerlybnc]Makeupaname,
You mentioned Fili girls that are 800? What about ST?
How can they charge way more than Chinese? The Philipines is poor. Surprised they can get away with that.
I am interested to try but not at that price.
F[/QUOTE]
Yes it is a higher price than a chines girl on a bike or a chinese street walker that would agree to sex in a park. But inside the bars on Tongren if you ask a girl to give a price for LT, the 1st quote will probably be around 2000 RMB. It does not matter where the girl comes from. chinese, viet, philippines. if you want cheap try a bbs.
800 is just a reasonable amount that most filipinas would agree to. a few might hold out for 1000. if they like you, theyre drunk, they really need money, maybe you could get LT for 600 but probably the 1st girl you ask for 600 will say no and spread the word youre cheap.
for me i think the price is reasonable for LT for a horny filipina, it usually means 2 pops at night and one in the morning. not sure about ST because I never do.
[QUOTE=Guybert56]After a 6 month hiatus, I have returned to SH. This time on the Pusi side. Hope to find some comfort spots closer to the domestic airport.
GB56[/QUOTE]Guybert,
Not sure if you are a BBS or Sauna guy but there is 1 BBS inside the Hong Qiao airport hotel. Either from the airport or outside parking, you can walk into the hotel lobby, walk toward the elevators in the back of the lobby. There is a hair salon which offers massage. The girls are pretty obviously offering other things.
Around the HQ airport area there are tons of BBS and Saunas. Just start canvasing up and down the roads surrounding that area. You will surely find what you want.
Please don't forget, this country is run by a triad/mafia group who have branded themselves as Communist Party. Most Chinese people have been tricked into believing it is an ideology.
There is no objection against prostitution, as long as a) they get their cut and b) it is kept under cover
Violations to one or both of these two rules will lead to raids and or closure. If you want to play safe, stick to establishments obliging to these two basic rules. However, as a visitor it is not easy to know which of them do. RTFF to find out which have done so for a period of time and will do so in the future
[QUOTE=Deluxe Tickets]I will be going to Shanghai tomorrow. I was looking forward very much to trying out the following saunas:
1) Shanghai Hotel
2) 999
3) Sacrosa
4) Heting
5) B2
After reading about some of the busts, a little concerned about LE. I cannot cannot cannot afford to be arrested in China! Could members please tell me which saunas should be safe, and which to avoid? I read a lot about raids and B2, but also saw a report that it had been re-opened. Not sure what that means to the current chances of being busted. Please advise!
Many thanks.[/QUOTE]
Wandered the length of xiaomuqiao, only one BBS open. It's day is done, even the ones around the corner are kind of depressing. There's a new strip out near the Marriott Hongqiao, Hongzhong lu. From Marriott walk toward the Yanan Lu overpass and keep trucking and ye shall find. RMB150 for BBBJ.
I was looking forward to shanghai saunas for a long time, but here is my update from yesterday 13 may:
B2 closed
Jiyuan (my favourite) closed
Shanghai hotel closed.
Beware: in front the closed doors from shanghai hotel there are standing 3-4 touts, here is my conversation with them:
"hello, welcome, sorry we are closed, move to another location!" (first red light blinking).
"i am the manager, i can bring you to the new place" (second red light - 100% scam allert!
"where is the new address?"
"just 2 min by taxi, very close"
"why you dont make a sign with new address here?"
"no no, we dont want, we bring our customers personally" (who believes)
"i can go by myself, just give me the address"
"no, i will bring you, we have pretty girls they to BJ and sex, only 400rmb"
"how about red rope, massage etc" (he obiously did not know what is red rope)
"you come, see first"
"no thanks bye"
As many members said before: "dont ever go with touts" no need to add anything else!
Be carefull
Thomas jefferson
After most saunas closed I decided to find bbs, and I found some.
I lived in the new asia hotel shanghai, 10min walk to the bund. Old from outside, rooms very modern. They have "sauna" and massage in the house, but when I checked no girls there.
In front the hotel always some touts, very aggressive to any male person going in and out, just ignore them.
Near by is a small street (zha pu street, foto attached) packed with restaurants and massage shops, around 7-8 of them are not into massage at all, typical bbs style, girls waiving you in. Some are real massage places, I even saw blond european girls go in for massage.
The bbs quote 200-300 for FS, some really cute girls there. I ask one girl come with me to my hotelroom (from the first bbs on the right when enter the street). 300 for 45 min.
She did a good job, but nothing special. Asked to stay whole night for 1000rmb, I refused.
Later I asked her to send her friend (anyone ok, they all looked ok) in about 1 hour later. In time another cute girl arrived, she did a very good job. I got her number later and will call her from my new hotel and will let her stay longer than one hour only!
See the fotos of Zhapu Road attached and have fun!
Thomas Jefferson
There is sauna in the airport compound - actually it is linked to the terminal building. An oil massage can be upgraded to FS. You have to negotiate hard as they are used to 'tourists' who don't know about the standard rates.
[QUOTE=Formerlybnc]Guybert,
Not sure if you are a BBS or Sauna guy but there is 1 BBS inside the Hong Qiao airport hotel. Either from the airport or outside parking, you can walk into the hotel lobby, walk toward the elevators in the back of the lobby. There is a hair salon which offers massage. The girls are pretty obviously offering other things.
Around the HQ airport area there are tons of BBS and Saunas. Just start canvasing up and down the roads surrounding that area. You will surely find what you want.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Monomi] There's a new strip out near the Marriott Hongqiao, Hongzhong lu. From Marriott walk toward the Yanan Lu overpass and keep trucking and ye shall find. RMB150 for BBBJ.[/QUOTE]That 'new' strip is hongzhou lu near chengjiaxiao lu, amongst greasy repair shops. Most of the girls looked average at best when i went today but a girl in a red skirt and black fishnets did catch my eye so i ventured into her shop. She led me upstairs to a 'secret' loft with LOW ceilings and quoted me 200rmb for FS. Allready cheap i didn't even bother to negotiate. In a flash she removed her fishnets, panties and my gear and started the rodeo off in cowgirl. After a while I flipped her over like a pancake on a hotplate into missionary where she seemed to enjoy some slower deep grinding. Flipped her over again and rammed home doggy style like a werewolf on mescalin. Wiped and paid up and hit the road again. A 20 miute lunchtime bonanza.
Seems like the pre-Expo shutdown is on. The following all appear to be closed: Jiyuan on Jiaozhou Lu, Wisdom Spring on Changshou Lu, Xiaomuqiao Lu bbs, Kangding Lu bbs, Xuanhua Lu bbs.
Careful out there.
[QUOTE=Formerlybnc]Makeupaname,
You mentioned Fili girls that are 800? What about ST?
How can they charge way more than Chinese? The Philipines is poor. Surprised they can get away with that.
I am interested to try but not at that price.
F[/QUOTE]
I and several of my friends from Netherlands have generally be able to get just about any PI girls LT for 500 RMB just about anytime after midnight. Why pay more? The most i ever paid for a filipina in TRL was 700RMB. (No I do not take the LBs)
In my opinion, the actual negotiating is part of the fun.
Try and ye shall succeed.
Also be aware that some of the PI girls are MUCH older (10 years or more) than they claim.
Have fun.
[QUOTE=Guybert56]After a 6 month hiatus, I have returned to SH. This time on the Pusi side. Hope to find some comfort spots closer to the domestic airport.
GB56[/QUOTE]Glad to see you back Guybert! Girls will all be excited!
Visited the massage place across the street from the Hilton Hotel on the crossing with Changsu Rd.
I had a tall slim and verry good looking girl from Nanjing who spoke some English. Apparently most of their customers are foreigners and I was under the impression that they usuall try to exploit 'ignorance' to the fullest.
First, of all they wanted to take me to the massage room without showing me the menu. I assume they would have quoted a higher price afterwards. I insisted on seeing the menu and chose a 90 min oil massage for RMB200 which is reasonable.
The massage itself was so so and after flipping over she started to massage my nipples and soon asked me whether I wanted a HJ. I asked her for her price, but she promted me to make an offer. I offered RMB100, but she wouldn't do it for that amount and wanted RMB300 quoting that this shop is more expensive than others. I just laughed and refused that. After we settled at RMB200 she gave a very good HJ which was worth to pay a bit more. All together RMB400 for 90 min oil massage + very good HJ. Yes expensive, but still tolerable and a nice experience. She was friendly, not rushed and never tried to pressure.
[QUOTE=White Dragon]That 'new' strip is hongzhou lu near chengjiaxiao lu, amongst greasy repair shops. Most of the girls looked average at best when i went today but a girl in a red skirt and black fishnets did catch my eye so i ventured into her shop. She led me upstairs to a 'secret' loft with LOW ceilings and quoted me 200rmb for FS. Allready cheap i didn't even bother to negotiate. In a flash she removed her fishnets, panties and my gear and started the rodeo off in cowgirl. After a while I flipped her over like a pancake on a hotplate into missionary where she seemed to enjoy some slower deep grinding. Flipped her over again and rammed home doggy style like a werewolf on mescalin. Wiped and paid up and hit the road again. A 20 miute lunchtime bonanza.[/QUOTE]
Man, seriously funny shit!
A few weeks ago I left XinTiandi with a Chinese girl from Harbin who called herself XiaXia. It was LT for 100rmb.
Back at my place she was fine. Dine at the Y, BBBJ, covered FS, multiple positions.
In the morning, after I got out of the shower, I came out of the bathroom and saw her snooping in one of my drawers. When it was time to leave I went to get my watch and it was not where I had put it the night before, and there was 500rmb missing from my pocket.
I made a show of looking for my watch and told her I couldn't find it and that I must have misplaced it the night before (not). She volunteered to help me look and then told me I should check my closet, which I had already done, and lo and behold, there it was.
I expected this behaviour from her so knew where anything of value in my apt was, and glad I made sure of that beforehand as she confirmed my reason for distrust.
On the other hand, I have been seeing a Pinoy and I trust her 99%. I gave her opportunities to take some money by leaving some around, as well as my watch, etc. , but she never did the wrong thing. Not saying I would trust all Pinoys, but anyway, just a reminder to watch your stuff.
Read in one of the previous posts about the guy who followed the bike girl to a room and stumbled over the Chinese guy that was trying to sneak in to snatch his goods. I didn't know China had this scam but it doesn't surprise me. Experienced the same in KL a few years ago, but was careful enough not to fall for it.
[QUOTE=Ronin500]A few weeks ago I left XinTiandi with a Chinese girl from Harbin who called herself XiaXia. It was LT for 100rmb.
Back at my place she was fine. Dine at the Y, BBBJ, covered FS, multiple positions.
In the morning, after I got out of the shower, I came out of the bathroom and saw her snooping in one of my drawers. When it was time to leave I went to get my watch and it was not where I had put it the night before, and there was 500rmb missing from my pocket.
I made a show of looking for my watch and told her I couldn't find it and that I must have misplaced it the night before (not). She volunteered to help me look and then told me I should check my closet, which I had already done, and lo and behold, there it was.
I expected this behaviour from her so knew where anything of value in my apt was, and glad I made sure of that beforehand as she confirmed my reason for distrust.
On the other hand, I have been seeing a Pinoy and I trust her 99%. I gave her opportunities to take some money by leaving some around, as well as my watch, etc. , but she never did the wrong thing. Not saying I would trust all Pinoys, but anyway, just a reminder to watch your stuff.
Read in one of the previous posts about the guy who followed the bike girl to a room and stumbled over the Chinese guy that was trying to sneak in to snatch his goods. I didn't know China had this scam but it doesn't surprise me. Experienced the same in KL a few years ago, but was careful enough not to fall for it.[/QUOTE]
100RMB for a XTD girl LT????? Surely you jest ! !
ES
Hey bros,
Will be in pvg next weekend.
Anyone interested in some company mongering in this hot weather kindly pm me.
Hi there,
I am on a very tight schedule. I have been staying in Beijing so far but we decided to go to shanghai for a couple of days tomorrow. I will basically have two days there. So basically I need a recommendation for some nice FS sauna that will satisfy my urges. I went to the Regencia in Beijing and although the massage was great the girl wasn't hot so the sex was very awkward. As I will be travelling with like 10 friends, there is no way I could do outcall stuff, I'll just be able to slip their company for an evening at best so I was wondering if anyone could recommend either
- a spa that provides FS with some actually attractive girls (I like slim, not short, long hair, cute and NOT fake breasts)
- a place where the massage isn't all that important.
I have never been to shanghai before so I really don't know the city at all so if you could give me the adresses in Chinese characters, it would be amazingly awesome.
Sorry for the short notice
Cheers
Outrageous ...
[url]http://slamxhype.com/blogs/shanghai-that-extra-mile/[/url]
Tried Wuzhong lu strip today just near Songyuan lu. There are about 4 or 5 salons there. Looking more like legit hairdressers than massage. I went into the 1st one closest to the volvo store. Picked a mombshell. Man she was goreous. Tall shaply body, nice breasts, great skin, hair and legs. Incredible cute and sexy. 9. 5/10
Her name was Wu Xiao Lian I think. 24 from Fujian. She wore a slinky blue dress and in the room took it all off so I could touch her wherever. No lame pulling down skirts but completely nude. Nice.
She proceeded to give me a nice slow massage and HJ cuddling and kissing the whole time. No rush, no treating junior like a construction jackhammer. Very GFE. It was a suprise change from the usual bbs girls you find. Normally I leave once done but I stayed as long as I could to enjoy this beauty. She really enjoys hugs at the end. Maybe she thought I could be her boyfriend la. Damage 200rmb for about 1 hr. Expensive for a bbs but worth it considering the girl. I saw some other stunners along that strip on the way out.
[QUOTE=Houziwang]Outrageous ...
[url]http://slamxhype.com/blogs/shanghai-that-extra-mile/[/url][/QUOTE]Crazy, don't know i'd want to be on a bench right next other men like the photo though. Some privacy would be appreciated. Some of the girls look cute - wonder if you can feel them up.
[QUOTE=Eaglestar]100RMB for a XTD girl LT????? Surely you jest ! !
ES[/QUOTE]100RMB LT is absolutely not a first in China.
I have even scored 70RMB ... or 50 for happy ending only.
Anyone sticking with KTV, SPA, flashing neon lights clubs, or downtown large cities will never have a change to experienced China's generous sexual freedom.
Take your car, drive miles and miles; trust me paradise is at the corner.
Made my virgin trip to China. I have never been to Asia and speak no Chinese. Here is my trip report for Shanghai.
I visited a foot massage place by the IBC coffee located fifth floor at 5F. It’s mentioned here a few times, or at least I think this was the place. It was one of the few times in mongering that I have been refused at least a HJ. I walked in and asked for the oil massage for an hour. I was worried that this might not be the right choice but I could not communicate with the gal at the counter. I figured a big white guy coming in alone and asking for an oil massage was pretty obvious what I wanted. I get to the room and massage begins. After about 40 mins of the massage she still had not given me any hint of going near the boys. I started to grab at her ass, offered tips, and even stuck her hand down my pajamas at one point to give her the hint. She gave me a playful squeeze and was a good sport about it all but in the end just said "No. Get in trouble". She kept trying to upsell me for 2 hours and I kept asking if the second hour include HJ but she always said no. I was stunned – I had gotten shot down in a Shanghai massage parlor. Wow. I got dressed paid the 200rmb and left completely blue balled and slightly sticky from the oil. Obviously I did something wrong but I cannot recommend this place for nubes.
Had a beer at the café right next door and pulled out plan B. Plan B was some rough directions I had written down to a place called 999. Our hotel was on the Pudong side so I had initially ruled this place out as being too far away. However, after the previous experience I needed to go with a sure thing. I resolved myself to find the subway and get to this place. It took me a while but I finally found it. The poster who gave directions saying take the subway train 4 and use exit 3, walk past the stadium until you see 999 on your left is the guy who saved me. I thank him for what turned out to be a great monger experience for me.
It took me about 90 mins to get there and I was hot and tired as I walked up the steps. Before I even made it to the door I was wooshed inside and immediately taken to the dressing room. Wooshed is a good word because I bet in less than a minute they had me in the dressing room with all my clothes off. All that was said was "This way, please take off clothes for shower" I liked the efficiency, although it was weird having three young guys "help" you disrobe. I had no idea how this place worked, how much this place even cost or what was the menu or anything. I showered and was led upstairs where I had my first fishbowl experience. I’m a newbie so to the veterans this must be not be a big deal but I was blown away. They open a curtain and reveal about 16 girls all standing Miss America style in two rows. I’m overwhelmed, its great. They had a nice mix of shapes, sizes, age, etc. It took me about a minute of looking up and down before I began to get nervous that I was taking too long. I wondered if the girls could see me and started to feel a little embarrassed that I was taking a while. There was a cute one that appeared to be smiling right at me. I asked the guy if any of them liked white guys and he said he didn’t speak English. So I picked the girl who was smiling at me. She was number 903. She was petite but had a little cleavage showing and was wearing this little tiara. As soon as I say the number the guy calls her name, the curtain closes, and I can see all the girls begin to disperse behind the glass.
My girl comes out and seems a little stunned when she sees me. I’m 6’3" and about 220 and she looks to be about 5"1 and 110. But she smiles, grabs my hand and away we go. We make it to the room and she speaks zero English. Nothing. I give up telling her its my first time here and just let her lead the show. She starts to undress and has a nice body. She then takes off her high heels which were very tall, almost stripper shoes. Without her heels she is now under 5 feet tall! We laugh as she puts herself up next to me and we look in the mirror. Shes naked now except for her earrings and the tiara. I’m glad she kept the tiara on. She is like a little princess and looks very sweet. We start off in the shower and she rubs herself all over me with soap. We then go to the air mattress and we are all slippery with soap suds. My body is long and hers is so small that I am literally like a slip and slide for her. She slides her naked body all the way down to my feet and then flings herself up so she slides along my body all the way passed my head. The first time she did this I was not ready and let out a "wow" when she did it. At one point she straddles me and starts grinding her little hairy pussy on the shaft of my dick. She then takes my dick and tucks it under her ass and then grinds again on the shaft. With the warm soap and her wet pussy on my shaft it feels like I’m fucking her. Its great.
She indicates we are done here and dries me off and leads me to the bed. She starts with a massage that quickly turns into BBBJ with her using some hot water. She then ties a scarf to the top of the bed and does red rope. This is also a first for me and one of those things I’m glad I got to experience. She is so small but strong. While she was doing the performance I kept saying "wow" because I was just in awe of what this little girl could do. She comes down and begins repeating that word back to me – "Wow". I then point at her body and repeat it back to her. We have some playful banter with this and she slowly goes back to BBBJ. I think it would have been a struggle for me to get inside her because she is so petite and she seems to know this too so she is very committed to this BJ, which is what I prefer anyway. After some time I’m about to blow and as a courtesy I try to tell her in case she does not want cim. I squeeze her arm and warn her again but instead of pulling away she dives back down on it. Either she misunderstood or was hungry. So I now get to add BBBJCIM to my list which is something I have not had in years. After she finishes me I think shes a little surprised by the volume of the release. Remember I had that 5F experience prior to this so I was a little pent up. She looks at me and says WOW. We both laugh.
She takes me back into the shower and once again cleans me from top to bottom. We dry off and while I’m sitting on the bed still catching my breath she climbs in my lap and we cuddle. I can look at her closely now and she has pretty eyes and still has on her tiara. I’m stuck by how lucky a person I am to get to do this and how this is going to be one of those memories I will hold with me for a while. I tell her thank you. She leans over and makes a call on the phone and the girl on the other end asks if everything was good. Oh, yes. I get dressed back in my pajamas and my girl takes me downstairs and says goodbye. I’m not sure what is tipping policy here. I certainly don’t want to be rude but all my clothes and money are in the locker so I can't give her a tip even if I want to. I’m taken to a little waiting room with recliners where I sip tea and eat little cherry tomatoes. I’m the only one in the room. After this I go back and get my clothes, get dressed, and go pay. I was quoted 650rmb I think. I’m short of cash so pay most of it in cash and they put the remaining on my credit card. I catch subway back to pudong where I tell family I had a great time site seeing.
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Dudes,
Anyone keen on joining some senior members for a KTV night this Weds pls. PM me for details.
Will be checking a lower priced place in Jing An.
Cheers,
-BL
Hey Boulaman:
welcome to Shanghai. We are all here to make sure your trip is pleasant. Sorry you don't have much time.
For a full service sauna, I suggest going to a website called "International Sex Guide". You can go to a forum dedicated to China, and even more exciting - there is even a folder dedicated only to mongering in Shanghai ! I know, pretty freaking amazing.
Anyway, in that Shanghai folder at the "International Sex Guide" website, you will find plenty of field reports that give you exactly the information you are looking for.
Have an amazingly awesome time, dude ! bu-bye !
[QUOTE=Haokool]100RMB LT is absolutely not a first in China.
I have even scored 70RMB ... or 50 for happy ending only.
Anyone sticking with KTV, SPA, flashing neon lights clubs, or downtown large cities will never have a change to experienced China's generous sexual freedom.
Take your car, drive miles and miles; trust me paradise is at the corner.[/QUOTE]
Sure you can find RMB100 poontang many places in China if you "drive miles and miles", but not at XTD!
ES
Finally back after getting a proxy server....hate the China firewall..
Good to see Blacklisted and other senior members are still around. Business is still going as usual... hope thats the same for all members...
Just to let ppl know, sauna across from Crowne Plazza is on the corner of fahuazhen road and Panyu Road.
Also I believe the whole Ji Yuan group is done with... Ji Yuan 3 changed names.
Many handjob places on Wuzhong Road past Guilin road....100RMB
Village is still around at 150 a shot....
As for TRL, enjoy it well it lasts... When Shangri-la opens its moviing... girls go down in price after midnight... 600 or so max 1000... now with Visas getting very very hard to get for the girls they are trying to go for the bigger kills...
Cheers all...
forgot...
that paying for sex in Shanghai article is quite outdated...
Shanghai Daily printed an article interviewing Renai Hospital which was the hospital in question... they said it is not in any way true...
just to let u all know
Can someone help here with regards to Happy town location?
I tried the below but still not sure if this is right.
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Bier 8]
Reading the forum I exit at Lian Hua Lu Subway station. Took the North exit towards carrefour. However I could not find anything around this big (shopping) building.
Then tried my luck at the other side of the subway line (I would call this east, looking at the map). I walked down Luo xiu Lu and then after a few 100 meter you find many BBS. I walked into one with many young pretty girls. I chose one which was a stunner, wow, never seen that in BBS downtown. She did regular massage, allowed touching, FIV and finished with HJ. All for 50 RMB, not bad at all for about 40 min. FS was not available in this BBS.
It was good, but still don't know if this is what you refer to as Happy town
Anyone advise?[/QUOTE]
after looking in the abbreviations section, i couldn't locate the necessary terminology to describe various shanghai mongering moments, things, and situations. accordingly, i had to consider some new terminology to, well, describe things.
php. pommel horse practice – when the girl playfully swings her leg across the top while you're on your back as if she's going to 'mount-up' for cowgirl. instead, she fakes the mount and sits between your legs for a hand job. the move looks a lot like a gymnast mounting a pommel horse.
phe. pommel horse event – same as pommel horse practice except the girl quickly and playfully swings across the top of you and mounts up for cowgirl.
bare jam – usually takes place as an unexpected part of a pommel horse event. girl playfully swings her leg across the top early in the session. you've got no raincoat yet, and you're definitely not controlling the fast-paced action. as she quickly swings across, she "jams home your bare dick". hence, bare jam.
cglide. canyon glide – while doing a face-to-face body-to- body soapy slide, your hard dick magically slips between her thighs and "glides into her canyon". this can also happen in massage parlors when you're doing naked body-to-body body glides with massage oil.
mhto. mile high thigh oil – prior to a face-to-face body-slide using massage oil, the girl puts extra oil the tops and insides of her thighs. this facilitates a good thigh fucking, or the occasional canyon glide moment.
all pro – providers who are clearly a cut above the rest. technique, attitude, looks, never complaining about size, these girls are in a different league, always aiming to please. many of them carry a pro tool kit.
ptk. pro tool kit – contains just about everything: pop rocks candy, lube in a squirt bottle, baby oil, condoms, beaver bullets, vibrating toys, handy wipes, ky in a tube, mouthwash in a spray bottle, and gum, among other things.
bob are. – that's the name she's calling you. i think of it as chinese for "daddy" (baba). when they slur the word "baba" while your banging away, it sounds just like they're saying "bob-are".
bb. beaver bullets – rendell's contraceptive pessaries. they are rounded on one end for easy insertion in the xiao didi. they are about the size of the end of your thumb. active agent is nonoxynol 95%. beaver bullets are also called "governors mints" after current pennsylvania governor, ed rendell.
prop & load – one foot on the floor and one foot on the massage table to "prop and load" the beaver bullets.
dburn. daty o'burn – dining at the y if the provider has been using beaver bullets. nonoxynol has been known to irritate things.
ng. ninja grease – providers who use the squirt bottle lube in a very skillful way. many times, unless you're watching closely, you'll miss the fact that its used at all. many of the girls will put the lube in the upper right hand portion of the massage table under the edge of the towel on the pillow. it's easily accessible from here without causing a distraction. if the girl is on her knees giving a bj and you're in the side of the table, she can ease her right hand on the to the lube bottle, get a squirt, and lube her canyon walls while she's squatting. kind of sneaky, hence ninja grease.
p&s. peel & sniff – provider peels off the condom and gives it a quick whiff to make sure you shot your load. if you're exhausted and don't shoot, or a condom is too tight and you can't shoot, they'll figure it out. if you've got a super pro on your hands, then see wait indy.
call for pitchout – when going bareback a girl pats on her stomach thus indicating to shoot the load on the outside. three pats on the stomach is usually the hand signal for a pitch out. also referred to as "dit dit dit" for the morse code letter "s" for stomach.
wait indy – stands for wait i'm not done yet. maybe you're rally tired, jet lagged, whatever. but for some reason, you're not able to pop. your provider happens to be a super pro and takes it personally, so their task is to get you off. hence, wait indy. typical sequence follows: peel & sniff the raincoat, pitch it, prop & load beaver bullets to a bare jam pommel horse event, and call for pitch out. this kind of super pro will get you off.
ling lin san – okamoto 0. 03 condoms are among the thinnest, if not the thinnest latex condom around. much better than the small standard issue raincoats that the girls use.
ling ling ling – 0. 00 means that you are now going bareback.
cowgirl snack – when the provider is going cowgirl and leans over and starts sucking your nipples. also called lilly pad snack because the girl looks like a frog on a lilly pad leaning over for a snack.
hc. hammer commander – similar to a sommelier, but for a sauna. recall that a sommelier is a restaurant employee who orders and maintains the wines sold in the restaurant and usually has extensive knowledge about wine and food pairings. the hammer commander in a server-type sauna knows the the girls very well and can select the right one depending on your specific requests.
sps. seventh planet scientist – providers who really get into ar. recall that the seventh planet form the sun is uranus. hence, the seventh planet scientist is really into ar.
lcm. leather cheerio milk – ky in a tube that's squirted on you arse before they begin the seventh planet scientist begins the ar experiment.
pile carpeting – hemorrhoids with hair on or around them.
mc. mud check – while sitting on one of those split-bottom stools before a soapy session, the provider not only cleans your arse, but sticks her finger in your arse hole to check for any mud residue.
mcgb. mud check gone bad – while performing a mud check, the provider's fingernail gouges your arsehole. long fingernail plus improper mud check equal big sad face.
lhs. lee high salute – chinese word for professional, adept, skillful, proficient is li4 hai4. pronounced "lee high", a lee high salute is when the provider looks at you and says hen3 li4 hai4 (very proficient). usually means the provider acknowledges your abilities.
tao. ten against one – similar to five against one except it's a two-handed hand job (2xhj) usually performed by the girl while you're on your back and she's sitting between your legs. by the way, the urban dictionary defines five against one as "a very one sided but none-the-less enjoyable game of wrestling in which madame palm and her five sisters attempt to strangle kojak. the game ends when you make the bald man cry.
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[QUOTE=Applecrate]After looking in the abbreviations section, I couldn't locate the necessary terminology to describe various Shanghai mongering moments, things, and situations. Accordingly, I had to consider some new terminology to, well, describe things.
PHP. Pommel Horse Practice – When the girl playfully swings her leg across the top while you're on your back as if she's going to 'mount-up' for cowgirl. Instead, she fakes the mount and sits between your legs for a hand job. The move looks a lot like a gymnast mounting a pommel horse.
PHE. Pommel Horse Event – Same as pommel horse practice except the girl quickly and playfully swings across the top of you and mounts up for cowgirl.
Bare Jam – Usually takes place as an unexpected part of a pommel horse event. Girl playfully swings her leg across the top early in the session. You've got no raincoat yet, and you're definitely not controlling the fast-paced action. As she quickly swings across, she "jams home your bare dick". Hence, Bare Jam.
CGlide. Canyon Glide – While doing a face-to-face body-to- body soapy slide, your hard dick magically slips between her thighs and "glides into her canyon". This can also happen in massage parlors when you're doing naked body-to-body body glides with massage oil.
MHTO. Mile High Thigh Oil – Prior to a face-to-face body-slide using massage oil, the girl puts extra oil the tops and insides of her thighs. This facilitates a good thigh fucking, or the occasional Canyon Glide moment.
All Pro – Providers who are clearly a cut above the rest. Technique, attitude, looks, never complaining about size, these girls are in a different league, always aiming to please. Many of them carry a Pro Tool Kit.
PTK. Pro Tool Kit – Contains just about everything: Pop Rocks Candy, Lube in a squirt bottle, Baby Oil, Condoms, Beaver Bullets, Vibrating Toys, Handy Wipes, KY in a tube, Mouthwash in a spray bottle, and Gum, among other things.
etc etc..
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Guys,
I saw a few posts about Happy town. From what I have been noticing, it is pretty much closed down except the BBBJ shop which is open only until 7pm.
Sometimes shops have girls in and they are "closed" but if you can see thru the doors and see if anyone is inside maybe you can get lucky.
If anyone finds it back open please post on here so we can all know.
fbnc
White Dragon,
Can you provide exact directions to this Wuzhong Lu BBS strip. Much Obliged.
[QUOTE=White Dragon]Tried Wuzhong lu strip today just near Songyuan lu. There are about 4 or 5 salons there. Looking more like legit hairdressers than massage. I went into the 1st one closest to the volvo store. Picked a mombshell. Man she was goreous. Tall shaply body, nice breasts, great skin, hair and legs. Incredible cute and sexy. 9. 5/10
Her name was Wu Xiao Lian I think. 24 from Fujian. She wore a slinky blue dress and in the room took it all off so I could touch her wherever. No lame pulling down skirts but completely nude. Nice.
She proceeded to give me a nice slow massage and HJ cuddling and kissing the whole time. No rush, no treating junior like a construction jackhammer. Very GFE. It was a suprise change from the usual bbs girls you find. Normally I leave once done but I stayed as long as I could to enjoy this beauty. She really enjoys hugs at the end. Maybe she thought I could be her boyfriend la. Damage 200rmb for about 1 hr. Expensive for a bbs but worth it considering the girl. I saw some other stunners along that strip on the way out.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Applecrate]After looking in the abbreviations section, I couldn't locate the necessary terminology to describe various Shanghai mongering moments, things, and situations. Accordingly, I had to consider some new terminology to, well, describe things.
PHP. Pommel Horse Practice – When the girl playfully swings her leg across the top while you're on your back as if she's going to 'mount-up' for cowgirl. Instead, she fakes the mount and sits between your legs for a hand job. The move looks a lot like a gymnast mounting a pommel horse.
PHE. Pommel Horse Event – Same as pommel horse practice except the girl quickly and playfully swings across the top of you and mounts up for cowgirl.
Bare Jam – Usually takes place as an unexpected part of a pommel horse event. Girl playfully swings her leg across the top early in the session. You've got no raincoat yet, and you're definitely not controlling the fast-paced action. As she quickly swings across, she "jams home your bare dick". Hence, Bare Jam.[/QUOTE]Wow - I have so much to learn.
Haha, thanks.
There's a place called "Hao Ding VIP washing chamber" in 111 Caobao Lu. Does anyone know about it?
I assume it's a sauna with "normal service", but am not sure....
Shamuc
[QUOTE=Beijing ABC]White Dragon,
Can you provide exact directions to this Wuzhong Lu BBS strip. Much Obliged.[/QUOTE]Head to tthe corner of Wuzhong lu and Sonyuan lu. Go south along Wuzhong lu away from Xujiahui lu (btw someone was shot dead in the kfc at xujiahui yesterday) on the right side of the roads d. You only need to go 40m or so from Songyuan lu and the strip begins. There is a volvo office on the corner. Not sure if its an actual showroom though.
A handfull of bbs shops are there and they look like proper barber shops more than bbs. Each shop the girls wear a different uniform/dress. I've been twice and both girls I had from different shops were from Fujian, so maybe all the shops are owned together?
The cool girl I found was in the first shop, nearest volvo office, where they wear blue/purple dresses. I suspect you cannot get anything more than a HJ there though and you shouldn't have to pay more than 100rmb. I was lazy when I went and paid 200 but the girl did give me a long teasing massage and I thought she was pretty cute for a bbs girls. There are some other cuties along that strip aswell as some soso girls caked in makeup.
Hope this helps. Cheers
I was there last week and yes. 99% closed. There is a shop near Lianhua lu/luoxio lu which was still open but with poor selection.
Darned, where did they all go?
[QUOTE=Formerlybnc]Guys,
I saw a few posts about Happy town. From what I have been noticing, it is pretty much closed down except the BBBJ shop which is open only until 7pm.
Sometimes shops have girls in and they are "closed" but if you can see thru the doors and see if anyone is inside maybe you can get lucky.
If anyone finds it back open please post on here so we can all know.
fbnc[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Applecrate]BB. Beaver Bullets – Rendell's Contraceptive Pessaries. They are rounded on one end for easy insertion in the xiao didi. They are about the size of the end of your thumb. Active agent is Nonoxynol 95%. Beaver Bullets are also called "Governors Mints" after current Pennsylvania Governor, Ed Rendell.
Ling Lin San – Okamoto 0. 03 Condoms are among the thinnest, if not the thinnest latex condom around. Much better than the small standard issue raincoats that the girls use.[/QUOTE]AC - Awesome post! I love the creativity. Your descriptions eerily match some of the exact same situations I have faced in the past.
Two minor corrections however:
1 - Beaver Bullet should go in the xiao meimei (lit. younger sister)... xiao didi (lit. younger brother) is my equipment and anybody tries to shove anything down my urethra I'm gonna kick their ass! I don't care if she's giving me the best head in the world!
2 - Okamoto condoms are made from Polyurethane. While they are incredibly thin, I just don't feel that they transmit feeling as well as latex. Obviously YMMV and everyone is entitled to choose what kind of hat they like and wear.
Sorry - was requested to delete content of post.
Admin - please delete as appropriate.
WGS
[QUOTE=Matsu69]2 - Okamoto condoms are made from Polyurethane. While they are incredibly thin, I just don't feel that they transmit feeling as well as latex. Obviously YMMV and everyone is entitled to choose what kind of hat they like and wear.[/QUOTE]The Okamoto 0.03 PLatinum I'm thinking about is made of latex. At least, that's what their advertisements claim. Perhaps different material in different parts of the world?
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World’s Thinnest Latex Condom for Maximum Feel
Big advancements in our manufacturing processes have allowed us to develop a condom made with a special latex compound that is only half the thickness of normal latex condoms and provides for maximum feel. Making it the world’s thinnest latex condom.”
No More Rubber Smell
Technology unique to Okamoto has allowed us to remove protein and water soluble materials in the latex used for manufacturing of the condoms. This means that the strong latex smell that is present in many other brands of condoms is absent in Okamoto Zero Zero Three Platnium condoms.
Was there last week, took nr 155 a real beauty service as described before, catbath, AR, BBBJ, etc. Price 580 in the afternoon.
Good service and no 155 is a real beaty. 100% perfect
Thomas Jefferson
Checked different saunas last weekend
Shanghai sauna. Closed
Jiyuan sauna. Closed
B2 sauna- closed.
Too bad
Thomas Jefferson
They are so thin I usually waste three out of ten in my rush to put them on!
[QUOTE=Applecrate]The Okamoto 0.03 PLatinum I'm thinking about is made of latex. At least, that's what their advertisements claim. Perhaps different material in different parts of the world?
###
World’s Thinnest Latex Condom for Maximum Feel
Big advancements in our manufacturing processes have allowed us to develop a condom made with a special latex compound that is only half the thickness of normal latex condoms and provides for maximum feel. Making it the world’s thinnest latex condom.”
No More Rubber Smell
Technology unique to Okamoto has allowed us to remove protein and water soluble materials in the latex used for manufacturing of the condoms. This means that the strong latex smell that is present in many other brands of condoms is absent in Okamoto Zero Zero Three Platnium condoms.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dragon D]Finally back after getting a proxy server....hate the China firewall..
Good to see Blacklisted and other senior members are still around. Business is still going as usual... hope thats the same for all members...
Village is still around at 150 a shot....
Cheers all...[/QUOTE]
Gents,
Purely out of selfless interests to add to the wealth of knowledge on ISG, WSG and myself ventured far out into the what was once wilderness of the village.
What we discovered both shocked and appalled us in equal measures. Well, more so me considering that WSG had never known the former glory that once was The Village.
Yes, what was once streets lined with pink BBS's and chock full of farm girls is now dens of weird old dudes playing mazhong, Watson's stores, and freshly developed apartment complexes. It looks like they are even building a lovely park for the kiddies as well.
How delightful!
Upon asking a local barkeep of what had happened to our beloved xiaojie's, I was informed that business had been bad and they had almost all closed up shop.
Several touts are on hand, which may indicate an underground presence but being the savvy ISG members that we are, we of course declined their invitations.
One of them told me that the long arm of the law had cracked down hard on the village and that the shops were all forced to close.
I sense Shanghai's P4P scene may be slipping away...
Dragon, what on earth are you talking about saying the village 'is still around 150 a shot'.
Dude, there is no village!!!
Suffice to say a small mention about the current situation out there may have saved us quite a journey, but nevermind, some things need to be seen to be believed anyway.
-BL
Hi all,
As most of us know, most of the shanghai sauna places are closed right now, can we please compile a up to date list with the saunas that are still open? And if you can please include the address as there are many newbies here, thanks.
I'll start of first, shanghai hotel sauna closed, motel 168 sauna still open but only have around 6-7 girls, quality 5-7.
Finally made it to Shanghai. First trip was cancelled by my company, but now I'm here. And naturally I wanted to discover the side of this city which is so good descibed here.
Bad thing however is that my company located me in the worst area where you can be. Huangpu has not much action, not takin into account the streetguys and girl on Nanying Lu. I have received your message; do not go with them.
So today then the Sauna. Tomas Jeffersen reported that a lot of sauna's were closed, so the logical choise was Sacrosa. For newcommers (like me) it is a good idea to have your hotel write down a location nearby for the taxi.
I let them drop me of at the intersection of Zangyang road and Dongfang road. From there I found it very easy to find Sacrosa although I was a bit doubtfull when I stood in front of the place. But ok, walk back towards the river untill you get to the crossing of Pudong Road. You will see a lot of expensive looking shops. Go north a bit. If you like me do not speak ANY Chinese, watch out for Wagas. You will find it to your right, can't miss it. You then can either go through the mall next to it, but I found it easier to walk around it. So face wagas and then walk around the building counterclockwise. You cannot miss the Steakhouse king and the UBC coffe shop. In the middle is the entrance with above it a big round window. There are porters in front of the entrance and I was wandering if I was in the right place. But the guy came up to me and looked at my piece of paper where I had written down the route and describtion I got from this side (very usefull guy's. A big thanks)
The saw just one word Sacrose and he showed me the elevator and pushed for me the right button. I was there! Very nice place. Looks very good
Now my biggest problem is the language. I don't speak it and that is a handicap in this place. None of the girls did and should I know some Chinese, then I would have gotten better service. I also expected some kind of fishbowl. But no; a lineup of about 6 very goodlooking women.
My choise was number 123. Don't aks me the name please. She had beautifull hair and a beautifull smile. Looks definatelly 9 plus. Small but firm tits.
The service was good, but I could tell she was a real pro. Did not let me come to familiar. No kissing (damn and I like that som much). But the massage was good, the warm and cold water supricingly pleasant and she was very tight. A full 90 minutes of pleasure without getting it to a real GFE unfortunally. As I said, my language was a real problem.
Total damage 560 RMB, which for this service is reasonable I think. If it felt less proffesional, I would have gladly pay more.
Would I go back? Perhpas if I was longer in Shanghai. I have a week and I think I would rather check out other places.
I also tried to find some BBS, but could not find any. I did write down a couple of pointers from this side, but no luck.
I understand from the conversations here that a lot is going away or closing, but there should be some left.
Can any of you point me to an area where I still can find some nice BBS? Also a sauna where there is a little more service, like real GFE, roleplay. (I love uniforms). Love to experience a soapy
My hotel is unfortunally not girl friendly, so I have to take my pleasure outside. What are your best recommendations.
I will follow up with new reports from my stay.
Thanks for feedback.
I posted this in the Shanghai Hotels thread, but got only one feedack. I am reposting here in case others folks could help. Sorry in advance for any thread mispost.
Renaissance Hotels:
Since there aren’t many references to the Renaissance hotels on this thread and I have to stay at a Renaissance during my trip to Shanghai, could anyone familiar with these hotels recommend one over the others?
My choices are
Renaissance Shanghai Zhongshan Park Hotel
Renaissance Shanghai Yuyuan Hotel
Renaissance Shanghai Pudong Hotel
While the availability of surrounding, in-hotel and in-room services are considerations, they are not the only ones; I am also interested in proximity to interesting parts of town, walkability, relative safety, etc.
Any feedback would greatly be appreciated.
Thanks.
Digits
Many of the saunas are still open, but they have stopped taking in foreign guests. I am Chinese so it is easier for me to get in still. The regulars one I visit I just need to call the mamasan or my favourite girls on their cell phone ahead. Otherwise if you just turn up without calling then they will just offer regular massage.
[QUOTE=Digits]I posted this in the Shanghai Hotels thread, but got only one feedack. I am reposting here in case others folks could help. Sorry in advance for any thread mispost.
Renaissance Hotels:
Since there aren’t many references to the Renaissance hotels on this thread and I have to stay at a Renaissance during my trip to Shanghai, could anyone familiar with these hotels recommend one over the others?
My choices are
Renaissance Shanghai Zhongshan Park Hotel
Renaissance Shanghai Yuyuan Hotel
Renaissance Shanghai Pudong Hotel
While the availability of surrounding, in-hotel and in-room services are considerations, they are not the only ones; I am also interested in proximity to interesting parts of town, walkability, relative safety, etc.
Any feedback would greatly be appreciated.
Thanks.
Digits[/QUOTE]None are ideal but Zhongshan park keeps you most central. You'll still need to taxi about and judging by experience that could be several taxis to din somewhere open.
WGS
Skip the Pudong one and take the one that is in between the domestic Hondqiao airport and the city center next to YanAn highway (sorry, I don't know the name) Nakata sauna is in 5 min walking distance and a lot of other top spots between there and the Hongqiao airport.
[QUOTE=Digits]I posted this in the Shanghai Hotels thread, but got only one feedack. I am reposting here in case others folks could help. Sorry in advance for any thread mispost.
Renaissance Hotels:
Since there aren’t many references to the Renaissance hotels on this thread and I have to stay at a Renaissance during my trip to Shanghai, could anyone familiar with these hotels recommend one over the others?
My choices are
Renaissance Shanghai Zhongshan Park Hotel
Renaissance Shanghai Yuyuan Hotel
Renaissance Shanghai Pudong Hotel
While the availability of surrounding, in-hotel and in-room services are considerations, they are not the only ones; I am also interested in proximity to interesting parts of town, walkability, relative safety, etc.
Any feedback would greatly be appreciated.
Thanks.
Digits[/QUOTE]
If you look back, I already covered the topic. The touts you speak of are just the bosses that ran the shops when they were glorious, and who'll lead you around the backs of the buildings to their hidden stashes of girls. Nothing 'savvy' about not going along to look unless one really seems to be acting funny. The savvy thing is to not accept prices a penny above 150. Anyway it sucks and there are so many (albeit) less conveninent strips of BBSes which are far better that the remnants.
There's always the dark "catacombs" of 50 kuai chicks out by Qibao Lu station ha ha ha
[QUOTE=Blacklisted]Gents,
Purely out of selfless interests to add to the wealth of knowledge on ISG, WSG and myself ventured far out into the what was once wilderness of the village.
What we discovered both shocked and appalled us in equal measures. Well, more so me considering that WSG had never known the former glory that once was The Village.
-BL[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Parasitius]If you look back, I already covered the topic. The touts you speak of are just the bosses that ran the shops when they were glorious, and who'll lead you around the backs of the buildings to their hidden stashes of girls. Nothing 'savvy' about not going along to look unless one really seems to be acting funny. The savvy thing is to not accept prices a penny above 150. Anyway it sucks and there are so many (albeit) less conveninent strips of BBSes which are far better that the remnants.
There's always the dark "catacombs" of 50 kuai chicks out by Qibao Lu station ha ha ha[/QUOTE]
Ha ha, the Shanghai catacombs eh? Nice tip and will definitely go for a looksee some time in the future.
Nothing 'savvy' about not going with touts? Wow, might be worth having a read of the DG board and see the kinds of fun that can be had going with touts - e.g. ending up getting your face smashed in with brass knuckles and lead pipes. Thanks but no thanks mate!
For sake of newbies I would rather reiterate the point - NEVER GO WITH TOUTS. I think it is an easy mistake to make and I am sure there are lots who are not trying to rip you off, but I will never be keen to find out when there are so many better and less risky ways to find action.
Sorry I did not read your previous post as have been off the board for quite some time due to firewall issues. I'm sure it was very helpful though and wish I read it before making the journey out there!
Also, from my travels around town, I think the BBS's are seriously drying up and I won't be surprised if they are non-existent come Expo 2010. For mongerers not living in SH, I would not be travelling here for P4P in the next 18 months +. Might be better off in Thai or Phils or if you have friends or language skills, down south in SZ, GZ or DG.
BL
[QUOTE=Thomas Jefferson]Was there last week, took nr 155 a real beauty service as described before, catbath, AR, BBBJ, etc. Price 580 in the afternoon.
Good service and no 155 is a real beaty. 100% perfect
Thomas Jefferson[/QUOTE]Did they increase prices, it used to be 580?
You took 155 or do you mean 105, she was described before, but with mixed remarks.
FA
[QUOTE=Beijing Fox]Skip the Pudong one and take the one that is in between the domestic Hondqiao airport and the city center next to YanAn highway (sorry, I don't know the name) Nakata sauna is in 5 min walking distance and a lot of other top spots between there and the Hongqiao airport.[/QUOTE]Digits, the one BF is advising for you is the Renaissance Zhongshan Park, in the Changning District. The Yuyuan option is way over east near the Bund.
These hotels are part of the Marriott chain, and therefore should be GF.
Dear All,
Would like to update on above joint. Experience is very fresh. Just Yesterday at 4:00pm.
Name: Jin Lin Yang Sheng Tang (金林养生堂)
Address: 484 Xi Kang Road/ Kang Ding Road (very near X-junction)
Apparently, there are 3 types of RMB 338 package and I suspect they are all the same.
Anyway, cashier recommend one of it saying this is for young man. So I guess they should be right.
When down the stairs and got into a room. Have a see-through in-room shower.
Waited for lady. All of them dressed in T-Shirt and track pants. Guess no feeling-up:<
Massage is not bad but have tried better. Anyway am here to try the prostrate massage only:P
Seems that the massage is only limited to the full back + ass. The rest of the body part is a no-show. Takes about 50 mins for this process.
Then flip over and start the belly massage. Then proceed to didi (little brother). Actually it is different from the normal HJ and enjoyable.
But I suspect some of us may not really like it as at the end of the day, it is still just a HJ via a different method. So as usual, girl say better don't shoot but we all say shoot. So shoot and pay up.
My own summary would be I rather pay the same amount if not a little bit more and go for the bucket massage (lady massage you then wash u up then jack you off). When to one such place before but damn, forgot the address and the name. I think it is along Shanxi North or South Road. The last time I went I think I took a cab and travelled the whole damn road just to look for it.
Hope information is useful.
Reoxy
The XMQ BBS stash is still alive and kicking with about 5-6 pink establishments open for business, verfied last night around 20:00.
[QUOTE=Ira Johnson]Here's what I found:
Cialis (Tadalafil) 50mg Tablets – 250RMB per bottle of ten
Levitra (Vardenafil) 600mg tablets – 300RMB per bottle of ten
I still have a couple bottles of the stuff I have used most often - “Cialis” (Sildenafil – Viagra active ingredient) 35 mg capsules - 250RMB per bottle of ten. [/QUOTE]
Can you - or somebody - post some pix of the packets? Is that "pharmacy" stuff or from a sex shop?
Could someone who lives there write an update on the saunas?
Did they re-open?
Heard the Shanghai hotel was closed a week ago.
[QUOTE=Blackjai]Hi all,
As most of us know, most of the shanghai sauna places are closed right now, can we please compile a up to date list with the saunas that are still open? And if you can please include the address as there are many newbies here, thanks.
I'll start of first, shanghai hotel sauna closed, motel 168 sauna still open but only have around 6-7 girls, quality 5-7.[/QUOTE]
I was in Shanghai for a few days early this month, and went to my favourite place, the Shanghai Hotel sauna, on a Monday evening shortly after 7pm. It was a great disappointment. Subsequently, a friend of mine told me that by May 15 the sauna was closed down completely.
For my visit in early May, there were four big problems:
1). There was no soapy bath, or the wet massage, as the girls called it. The excuse given was that the soapy bathrooms (one floor below the dry massage floor, where the entrance is located) were being refurbished. But when I was heading for the “fishbowl,” I passed by the staircase leading to the wet massage section and it seemed quite normal with me. Anyway, I preferred to have a soapy bath and almost wanted to walk out when told it was not available.
2). Few girls were available, and the quality was poor. When I got to the “fishbowl” (actually I was in the same room as the girls, looking at them face to face), there were only 6-7 girls around. Two to three of them were fairly old (30 years or more), and at least 2-3 were fat. Luckily, I saw this gem, the beauty of the lot. Later, she told me that in reality probably a dozen girls were available at that time, but several of them were playing mahjong, and a few others didn’t bother to go to the lineup to be selected.
3). It turned out that my girl, number 50, actually had a great body, slim and of medium height, she had a pair of great tits about 32-33C, with very smooth and fair skin. Her skills were also very good, but she was a bit lazy and skipped the red rope part. Although I’m not a big fan of red rope, she shouldn’t have skipped it.
4). The ear- and foot-masseuses were old and unattractive. After the deed in the dry massage room, I went out to the lounge for a rest and to enjoy their ear and foot massage. Unfortunately, the foot masseuse was rather old, more than 30 years of age and probably close to 40. The ear masseuse was in her mid-20s, but not attractive at all. (May be ugly is too harsh a word, but she was really unattractive. When she practically slept on my body to clean my ear, I had little desire to caress her ass or tits).
Clearly, the sauna’s manager had taken his eyes off the ball. However, it looks like Shanghai is going through a major cleanup now. I guess I won’t be able to find another “soapyland” for a while?
On my last night in Shanghai, I called up Monroe Massage 夢露按摩 for an outcall service to my hotel. My girl arrived about half an hour later, just after midnight. Her name was Meng Xin, just over 20 years old. A petite girl from Nanning of Guangxi, she was not pretty, but still gave you an impression of being cute and even innocent, was of medium built, and had a pair of rather small tits. She found out gladly that I could also speak Cantonese, and I think that helped put her at ease. After she came into my room, she said she needed to prepare herself for the massage, and went into the bathroom. When she came out, she was wearing a red see-through sleeping gown, revealing her bra and T-back underwear inside.
Her massage skill was quite good, and I enjoyed it quietly face down. After I flipped over, I started to harass her, and she tried to resist my attempts half-heartedly. With some gentle persuasion, I managed to strip her naked and explore her body, but she steadfastly refused to do oral or sex. We hugged each other tightly and kissed passionately, and in the end she admitted to being sexually aroused but still held her line. I could only imitate the sex act and came on her tummy, and then she blamed me for not being sexually fulfilled.
Afterwards, she said I could keep her for the night, for a grand total of 650 yuan, but without sex. Given that an hour of her service was 450 yuan (massage and handjob only), it seemed a reasonable price to pay, and I agreed.
Before we dozed off, she told me that her boss was a Shanghai girl in her early 20s, who hired four full time masseuses (including my girl) and a number of part-timers. Yet, her boss would do “doubles” upon client request, and Meng promised to bring her boss along next time she saw me. She also said that once a part-time girl charged her client 200 yuan just for playing with her tits. Afterwards, the client phoned up the boss to complain. Although there was no refund for the client, the boss banned the girl from work for several weeks. I suppose that if you lived in Shanghai or visited frequently, you might be able to get a partial refund if you really bugged the boss.
Stumbled across a new area with a number of BBS. 4 of which are not the regular BBS as they only offer FS and whole package deals ie BBBJ then FJ. The diff with these places are most of the girls are 8 and above. Now comes the deal sealer - RMB150 max per pop. Nothing to negotiate.
So get your pens and paper ready, some might even want to have your GPS ready. These shops line the side of 志丹路 zhidan lu between 甘泉路 ganquanlu and 延长路 yanchanglu.
Stop the cab at the corner of zhidanlu and ganquanlu where there are two hair salons and a handphone shop then walk backwards towards yanchanglu for your window shoppping.
Hello everybody,
I dont speak english very good. It's difficult for me to anderstand all the messages.
Can you says me the 3 or 4 bests places to be in Shanghai for sex (sex Hairdresser, discotheque, massage hotel, sex massage) ?
Thank you very much for you answer.
Paris
[QUOTE=Paris12]Hello everybody,
I dont speak english very good. It's difficult for me to anderstand all the messages.
Can you says me the 3 or 4 bests places to be in Shanghai for sex (sex Hairdresser, discotheque, massage hotel, sex massage) ?
Thank you very much for you answer.
Paris[/QUOTE]
If you don't speak English how are you going to communicate with people in China. Communication in English in China is bad enough and any language other than Chinese is almost nil. From your handle, Paris12, I think you speak French or you are LE. English in China is limited including the girls because most of girls come from a poor background with low education.
You posted the same question in the Beijing Thread. I suggest you try reading and doing a search in the forum first for the information.
2 posts, one asking for easy answers in Shanghai, and one asking for easy answers in Beijing. I smell a rat, or pork.
If you have found an english language based website about getting laid, then you understand enough about english to READ THE FU$%&*#& FORUM. Your claim of difficulty reading english is hilarious.
Don't be lazy pal, just read. Every single page has answers to your amazingly silly question.
Welcome to China. Have fun. Bring some hot french hookers. Please.
[QUOTE=Davidoff Lite]Stumbled across a new area with a number of BBS. 4 of which are not the regular BBS as they only offer FS and whole package deals ie BBBJ then FJ. The diff with these places are most of the girls are 8 and above. Now comes the deal sealer - RMB150 max per pop. Nothing to negotiate.
So get your pens and paper ready, some might even want to have your GPS ready. These shops line the side of 志丹路 zhidan lu between 甘泉路 ganquanlu and 延长路 yanchanglu.
Stop the cab at the corner of zhidanlu and ganquanlu where there are two hair salons and a handphone shop then walk backwards towards yanchanglu for your window shoppping.[/QUOTE]This place seems to be pretty far out of town on the north side. Do you have a link to a map that shows it?
J
Thanks for all the useful information on this site. Takes some time to read through it but it is worthwhile.
I found some info on 3 sauna's in old postings but no mention of it in recent ones.
They are:
Bo Dou on Xietu Lu/ Luban Lu
Tin Hao on GuMei Lu
Sang Na on Songshan Lu
Does anyone know if they are still operating. I want to check them out next month but if they are closed it saves me the trip. If they are still open I will let you know how it was.
I went to the Shanghai Hotel Sauna a few times at the recommendation of a friend in late April. They were only open for about 3 hours in the afternoon and then shut down after that. The girls told me that there was pretty heavy LE pressure and they would come by to check on the Sauna every night. My friends in Shanghai also confirmed that there's been LE pressure on their regular saunas.
One of my mamasan friends who works at a naked KTV told me her naked KTV got shut down by LE a few weeks ago too!
Anyone know what's going on with this cleanup in Shanghai? I originally thought it had something to do with the F1 weekend and International Auto Show, but maybe it's a longer-term cleanup prior to the Shanghai Expo?
[QUOTE=WooVictor]I was in Shanghai for a few days early this month, and went to my favourite place, the Shanghai Hotel sauna, on a Monday evening shortly after 7pm. It was a great disappointment. Subsequently, a friend of mine told me that by May 15 the sauna was closed down completely.
[/QUOTE]
Went to the before 7pm special for 550rmb. Nice girl, all extras and 90 mins.
PC out
Yes, I went by a couple of days ago and the place was shut down due to "re-modeling". Puzzelzing since a couple of the massage palours around the neighborhood were open for business as usual. There are two place by the hilton, down the street where one parks. One is clearly a brothel, with touts in front. The other, which I patronized, appeared to be legit. As least for the four visits . I visited as they offered an hour of foot massage for 68 rmb.
One night as I went for my massage a very cute mammasan tried to hustle me to go to her place with many pretty girls. I counteroffered to take her back to my hotel, which she declined. Definitely would have done her.
Made a few calls to Craigslist erotic services. Note that it remains since LE does not bother with such ads. Many offers of 200 rmb/hr massages. Don't bother if you are really seeking an independent.
[QUOTE=Joinem]This place seems to be pretty far out of town on the north side. Do you have a link to a map that shows it?
J[/QUOTE]Davidoff Lite has uncovered a great find and thanks for sharing.I am amazed and wonder how the hell you found this area. I know the city very well and I am impressed.
It is far from the French Concession, Channing, Jingan, Xujiahui, People's Square; the center city but not too far. Definitely worth the trip for anyone who likes BBS and a huge selection of fine young, did I say young, ladies. I feel like I went back in time. I didn't know these types of blocks still exit in Shanghai.
Thanks so much for the great tip.
Could anyone please help me (& I am sure many people will benefit too). While in China, I have been having trouble getting to ISG site due to China Firewall. Could anyone recommend some reliable proxy servers or anything to reach ISG while in China. Thanks.
Thanks Guys,
For latest usefull info around Shenzhen. well, i'm first timer visitor to shenzhen and trying to collect more and more info to plan up my next week stay.. couldn't find much info around Hengfeng Haiyue International Hotel. any local friend can help me to suggest life around this hotel. thanks. of course, will update my report after visitng shenzhen.
[QUOTE=Dovetail]Could anyone please help me (& I am sure many people will benefit too). While in China, I have been having trouble getting to ISG site due to China Firewall. Could anyone recommend some reliable proxy servers or anything to reach ISG while in China. Thanks.[/QUOTE]
There is a specific thread in ISG about proxy servers, nevertheless wishing to help.
Try this one:
[url]http://www.bypassproxy.us/[/url]
it worked some 6 weeks ago in Shangai
Bit tricky when you want to log in as a memeber as sometimes it does not catch...but al in all satisfying for the purpose.
[QUOTE=Dovetail]Could anyone please help me (& I am sure many people will benefit too). While in China, I have been having trouble getting to ISG site due to China Firewall. Could anyone recommend some reliable proxy servers or anything to reach ISG while in China. Thanks.[/QUOTE][url]www.proxify.com[/url]
It's a paid subscription, but works well.
Use the url's from the member section as the main one gets blocked.
[QUOTE=Bionicman]There is a specific thread in ISG about proxy servers, nevertheless wishing to help.
Try this one:
[url]http://www.bypassproxy.us/[/url]
it worked some 6 weeks ago in Shangai
Bit tricky when you want to log in as a memeber as sometimes it does not catch...but al in all satisfying for the purpose.[/QUOTE]
Thanks, Bionicman. I should be more specific. I have tried different Proxy Servers, but they worked intermittently, especially when I tried to log in. I was hoping there would be some that would work better.
[QUOTE=Dovetail]Thanks, Bionicman. I should be more specific. I have tried different Proxy Servers, but they worked intermittently, especially when I tried to log in. I was hoping there would be some that would work better.[/QUOTE]
Dovetail,
Most of the proxies I use work for awhile and then stop. Some will start to work again and then stop again. I am not a tech expert but I think that the IPs that the proxies generate get blocked until a new set are generated. I also noted that some work in some parts of China and not others. For example, turbohide.com stopped working for me in South while it was still working in Beijing.
Best solution seems to be to invest in a private VPN if you are going to spend a lot of time in China. Prices start at 39.99 per year.
Just my POV.
OAH
[QUOTE=Dovetail]Thanks, Bionicman. I should be more specific. I have tried different Proxy Servers, but they worked intermittently, especially when I tried to log in. I was hoping there would be some that would work better.[/QUOTE]
Definitely VPN (rented) is the way to go for anyone spending any significant amount of time in China. Huge advantages over proxies, and more stable.
I've had good luck with this one: [url]https://www.personalvpn.com[/url]
-B-
[QUOTE=Phillyhk]Many of the saunas are still open, but they have stopped taking in foreign guests. I am Chinese so it is easier for me to get in still. The regulars one I visit I just need to call the mamasan or my favourite girls on their cell phone ahead. Otherwise if you just turn up without calling then they will just offer regular massage.[/QUOTE]Will be coming to Shangahi next week,possible to PM me the name & address and also the mamasan's contact?
Thank you
[QUOTE=Joebanker00]I went to the Shanghai Hotel Sauna a few times at the recommendation of a friend in late April. They were only open for about 3 hours in the afternoon and then shut down after that. The girls told me that there was pretty heavy LE pressure and they would come by to check on the Sauna every night. My friends in Shanghai also confirmed that there's been LE pressure on their regular saunas.
One of my mamasan friends who works at a naked KTV told me her naked KTV got shut down by LE a few weeks ago too!
Anyone know what's going on with this cleanup in Shanghai? I originally thought it had something to do with the F1 weekend and International Auto Show, but maybe it's a longer-term cleanup prior to the Shanghai Expo?[/QUOTE]Look like no more fun in Shanghai, sad.
To those responding about China Firewall, many thanks! It is really driving me (and l am sure a score of others) crazy. In appreciiation, on my most recent trip to Shanghai, my colleague took me to Paris Spa & Sauna several times. Can't remember the street name but it is off the Huaihai Rd. As you go west on Huaihai Rd from Xizhang Rd, turn left on one of the cross streets. Tips: Saizeriya is directly across from the sauna. Conveniently located in downtown @RMB680. Enjoy!
For VPN services I can recommend [url]www.swissvpn.net[/url] very easy to buy, cheap and works perfectly.
On my way out of Shanghai. The Shanghai hotel 4th floor is closed. The owner moved around the corner---walking out of hotel Lobby, turn left, second street turn left. Half way down the block.
Have fun.
Nightwing here with another positive report on Heting. This time, thanks to the 198RMB discount from Sacrosa, I had more incentive to check out this place that has been so readily reviewed by our brothers. A couple of points:
1. Does anyone know when the subway is going to be built in front of Heting? Traffic is a pain to and from this place!
2. Aside from that, the place is fantastic. The dressing room is immaculate, as are the showers, the sauna, the plunge pool. I like that the outside of Heting is all black, and that inside, it's another world designed for comfort and relaxation.
3. At 4pm on a Saturday afternoon, girl selection was very impressive, about 15 girls. I picked a short cutie from Yunnan province. Very sexy hair, sultry eyes and 34C cup breasts. Sorry, forgot the number!!!
4. The room was very nice, with a "full" sized mattress, recessed lighting, good temperature controls (we could turn the AC up or down as needed), and even nice music coming from an Aigo unit.
5. Once in the room, we did not follow the normal routine. Yunnan cutie went straight to DFK, BBBJ, and rubbed her puxxx all over my body. We went straight into covered sex in several positions before finishing in a pile of exhausted sweat on the bed.
6. Only afterwards did we cuddle and chat. She got me hard again, and we proceeded with round two in the bed room. So, for those brothers who asked earlier in the forum, you can get two shots at Heting; but I think it also depends if you can hit it off with the girl.
7. With 10 minutes left in the session, Yunnan cutie wanted round 3. I think if we had more time, I could have done a Nightwing first and given up 3 shots in one session!
8. After leaving the room, service at Heting was excellent as well. Had the Shanghai noodle soup, a Sprite and some sweet dessert soup while relaxing in the rest area.
9. Total cost was 600 RMB with the coupon. Very satisfied, and am definitely coming back to this place again!
Nightwing
[QUOTE=Joebanker00]I went to the Shanghai Hotel Sauna a few times at the recommendation of a friend in late April. They were only open for about 3 hours in the afternoon and then shut down after that. The girls told me that there was pretty heavy LE pressure and they would come by to check on the Sauna every night. My friends in Shanghai also confirmed that there's been LE pressure on their regular saunas.
One of my mamasan friends who works at a naked KTV told me her naked KTV got shut down by LE a few weeks ago too!
Anyone know what's going on with this cleanup in Shanghai? I originally thought it had something to do with the F1 weekend and International Auto Show, but maybe it's a longer-term cleanup prior to the Shanghai Expo?[/QUOTE]You got it Joe.
It is for the world expo!
[QUOTE=Nightwing88]Nightwing here with another positive report on Heting. This time, thanks to the 198RMB discount from Sacrosa, I had more incentive to check out this place that has been so readily reviewed by our brothers. A couple of points:
1. Does anyone know when the subway is going to be built in front of Heting? Traffic is a pain to and from this place!
2. Aside from that, the place is fantastic. The dressing room is immaculate, as are the showers, the sauna, the plunge pool. I like that the outside of Heting is all black, and that inside, it's another world designed for comfort and relaxation.
3. At 4pm on a Saturday afternoon, girl selection was very impressive, about 15 girls. I picked a short cutie from Yunnan province. Very sexy hair, sultry eyes and 34C cup breasts. Sorry, forgot the number!!!
4. The room was very nice, with a "full" sized mattress, recessed lighting, good temperature controls (we could turn the AC up or down as needed), and even nice music coming from an Aigo unit.
5. Once in the room, we did not follow the normal routine. Yunnan cutie went straight to DFK, BBBJ, and rubbed her puxxx all over my body. We went straight into covered sex in several positions before finishing in a pile of exhausted sweat on the bed.
6. Only afterwards did we cuddle and chat. She got me hard again, and we proceeded with round two in the bed room. So, for those brothers who asked earlier in the forum, you can get two shots at Heting; but I think it also depends if you can hit it off with the girl.
7. With 10 minutes left in the session, Yunnan cutie wanted round 3. I think if we had more time, I could have done a Nightwing first and given up 3 shots in one session!
8. After leaving the room, service at Heting was excellent as well. Had the Shanghai noodle soup, a Sprite and some sweet dessert soup while relaxing in the rest area.
9. Total cost was 600 RMB with the coupon. Very satisfied, and am definitely coming back to this place again!
Nightwing[/QUOTE]Nw,
Great report, you lucky one. I had a time expander when I went there, very mechanical, only trying to get the second 45 minutes (they charge in theory 300 for 45 min but wonder if anybody ever got that). On the coupon, the afternoon is always 600 and the coupon is in the evening taking away the 198 "shower" fee, so your coupon was taken away for no exchange.
FA
Very true, the village is dead and gone, even the off-springs around it are all closed.
Levitian
[QUOTE=Blacklisted]Gents,
Purely out of selfless interests to add to the wealth of knowledge on ISG, WSG and myself ventured far out into the what was once wilderness of the village.
What we discovered both shocked and appalled us in equal measures. Well, more so me considering that WSG had never known the former glory that once was The Village.
Yes, what was once streets lined with pink BBS's and chock full of farm girls is now dens of weird old dudes playing mazhong, Watson's stores, and freshly developed apartment complexes. It looks like they are even building a lovely park for the kiddies as well.
How delightful!
Upon asking a local barkeep of what had happened to our beloved xiaojie's, I was informed that business had been bad and they had almost all closed up shop.
Several touts are on hand, which may indicate an underground presence but being the savvy ISG members that we are, we of course declined their invitations.
One of them told me that the long arm of the law had cracked down hard on the village and that the shops were all forced to close.
I sense Shanghai's P4P scene may be slipping away...
Dragon, what on earth are you talking about saying the village 'is still around 150 a shot'.
Dude, there is no village!!!
Suffice to say a small mention about the current situation out there may have saved us quite a journey, but nevermind, some things need to be seen to be believed anyway.
-BL[/QUOTE]
Lightning tore through the black paper sky in front of castle JJ's. Red velvet curtains draw to reveal 12 witches circed in a coven. They chant in latin and numbered runes are coded to their hip. Numbers to decipher, numbers to play, numbers of the golden 18 sect.
The illuminati guide m from the ancient gallery, my cape flowing behind me down the darkened chambers. I am taken to the shrine of perspex cobwebs and gothis ornate.
Raw in the escarpment of naked existence my nubile vampira showers me under a waterfall of blood. My fangs protrude, my desires moisten. I taste fear. I taste pleasure.
On the alter the magician serpent coils around me, testing my forbidden fruit, an alchemist of stone. The medusa from the soapy sea. 7 astral planes dimensioned into 1 sharp stroke.
I draw my scarab, teasing, evilive. Pounce, chop, sever. Pop. Bones crunch, limbs contort, juices gush and spurt. I bite. I loose control. Am I evil? Yes sir I am. Diary of a demented, 13th son of a 13th son, vampire. Crowleys vision. Do what thou wilt.
She lies in beauty. Cold pale face. Porcelin skin, beating heart. Devilish innocence. Fresh blood. Dinner has been served. Two neck bites our only clue to this macabre tale.
I fly off with the bats back into the forest of glass and steel. My gotham delight. Until tomorrow night. Sisters have mercy. I will be back.
[QUOTE=Levitian]Very true, the village is dead and gone, even the off-springs around it are all closed.
Levitian[/QUOTE]First it was the BJ Factory, now The Village, what about Happy Town? I have fond memories of the BBS with the spiral staircase and the 100 RMB BBBJCIM joint on the strip. Is Happy Town still in operation? I do remember heavy LE presence there during my last visit. The BBS would shut the doors when LE came through and open again when they were gone. A real cat and mouse game.
Current status?
OAH
Daxue or Davidoff Lite. Any idea what train station / line would get me closest to this spot?
Please let me know,
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Daxue]Davidoff Lite has uncovered a great find and thanks for sharing.I am amazed and wonder how the hell you found this area. I know the city very well and I am impressed.
It is far from the French Concession, Channing, Jingan, Xujiahui, People's Square; the center city but not too far. Definitely worth the trip for anyone who likes BBS and a huge selection of fine young, did I say young, ladies. I feel like I went back in time. I didn't know these types of blocks still exit in Shanghai.
Thanks so much for the great tip.[/QUOTE]
As a long time lurker I finally get around to contribute. However, since this is my first post on this very informative forum let me first take a moment and express my gratitude to all those that make this site such a resourceful collection of information regarding one of our dearest hobbies.
I just returned from Peacock Massage, which is a nice place to get more than a massage but if you’re too tired for the real deal. Just having returned to Shanghai and having read all these frightening posts regarding closures, raids, and disappearing locations I already feared the worst when I arrived at Peacock Massage and actually was being turned down with a friendly no massage today, how about tomorrow? Now not all was lost, since I remembered that 50 meters next to the original location was a second shop, also with a large bird in a neon-lit sign, but as I have come to learn, it is called Phoenix Massage. However, inside everything is exactly the same, the menu, the deal (at 298RMB), and if I am not mistaken it appears as if even the wallpaper and decoration is exactly the same.
Well, to cut to the chase, service as expected and detailed in previous reports. The girl was very pretty – prettier than the ones I had at Peacock Massage before – but that might just be coincidental. She offered and convinced me to do the whole procedure in the nude for a small tip of course, which was new but since I liked her appreciated.
On the way out I took a business card, which I attach.
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[QUOTE=White Dragon]Lightning tore through the black paper sky in front of castle JJ's. Red velvet curtains draw to reveal 12 witches circed in a coven. They chant in latin and numbered runes are coded to their hip. Numbers to decipher, numbers to play, numbers of the golden 18 sect.
The illuminati guide m from the ancient gallery, my cape flowing behind me down the darkened chambers. I am taken to the shrine of perspex cobwebs and gothis ornate.
Raw in the escarpment of naked existence my nubile vampira showers me under a waterfall of blood. My fangs protrude, my desires moisten. I taste fear. I taste pleasure.
On the alter the magician serpent coils around me, testing my forbidden fruit, an alchemist of stone. The medusa from the soapy sea. 7 astral planes dimensioned into 1 sharp stroke.
I draw my scarab, teasing, evilive. Pounce, chop, sever. Pop. Bones crunch, limbs contort, juices gush and spurt. I bite. I loose control. Am I evil? Yes sir I am. Diary of a demented, 13th son of a 13th son, vampire. Crowleys vision. Do what thou wilt.
She lies in beauty. Cold pale face. Porcelin skin, beating heart. Devilish innocence. Fresh blood. Dinner has been served. Two neck bites our only clue to this macabre tale.
I fly off with the bats back into the forest of glass and steel. My gotham delight. Until tomorrow night. Sisters have mercy. I will be back.[/QUOTE]
Hmmmm, I'd like to smoke some of the same sh*t you smoke WD :)
ES
[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]First it was the BJ Factory, now The Village, what about Happy Town? I have fond memories of the BBS with the spiral staircase and the 100 RMB BBBJCIM joint on the strip. Is Happy Town still in operation? I do remember heavy LE presence there during my last visit. The BBS would shut the doors when LE came through and open again when they were gone. A real cat and mouse game.
Current status?
OAH[/QUOTE]
The Village, Happy Town, the joints on Wuding Road, etc. etc. etc. ... all gone.
The government is getting Shanghai ready for the International Expo in 2010 and is reportedly going to spend $45billion, which is more than they spent on the olympics. So, I would guess, as part of the cleanup they are closing down those nasty little shops that might tarnish their image.
Also, as the city expands and real estate in outer areas becomes more desirable, local investors want those shops closed.
[QUOTE=Santa]The government is getting Shanghai ready for the International Expo in 2010 and is reportedly going to spend $45billion...........So, I would guess, as part of the cleanup they are closing down those nasty little shops that might tarnish their image.[/QUOTE]I think this is unquestionably correct.
But not only BBS - if the Beijing experience for the Olympics is any indication then most other 'sex' oulets will also go.
Tong Ren Lu bars - indeed any bar where hookers work - the massage centres / spas - they will ALL go.
[QUOTE=Santa]The government is getting Shanghai ready for the International Expo in 2010 and is reportedly going to spend $45billion, which is more than they spent on the olympics. So, I would guess, as part of the cleanup they are closing down those nasty little shops that might tarnish their image.
Also, as the city expands and real estate in outer areas becomes more desirable, local investors want those shops closed.[/QUOTE]
Most of the BBS areas in and around GZ are being shut down in preparation for the games, as well.
[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]First it was the BJ Factory, now The Village, what about Happy Town? I have fond memories of the BBS with the spiral staircase and the 100 RMB BBBJCIM joint on the strip. Is Happy Town still in operation? I do remember heavy LE presence there during my last visit. The BBS would shut the doors when LE came through and open again when they were gone. A real cat and mouse game.
Current status?
OAH[/QUOTE]
OAH,
Yes, I am sorry too! As neighborhoods get gentrified, they push out the BBS's. You have to go further out now. The 2010 Shanghai Expo is partly to blame as well of course.
Have not checked out much lately.
There used to be a lot of BBS's in my neighborhood, but they are being shut down now.
Unfortunately and fortunately, saunas and freebies remain some of the few best safe bets for service reliability and avoiding LE.
TRL is a complete rip off now, and there are few other good substitutes available.
Hey! why do you need to visit BBS's up here in Shanghai? You can still mostly play all you want for way cheaper in Dongguan!
MAB
[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso]Nw,
Great report, you lucky one. I had a time expander when I went there, very mechanical, only trying to get the second 45 minutes (they charge in theory 300 for 45 min but wonder if anybody ever got that). On the coupon, the afternoon is always 600 and the coupon is in the evening taking away the 198 "shower" fee, so your coupon was taken away for no exchange.
FA[/QUOTE]
Next time I go there, I'll check if I can get the coupon back. But, for the experience I had, the extra 198 they got was worth it!
Nightwing
Ok, just a few words about freebies. A lot has been written already, but this is my 2 fen…
A lot has been discussed about where you find the freebies, such as social networking sites, etc. I am going to attempt to roughly categorize Chinese women based on my experience. Caveat emptor, YMMV.
Girls under 25yo can be very naive and tend to be more idealistic about finding “Mr. Right” for marriage. These girls are not particularly easy unless they perceive you as marriageable or they just want to experiment and/or have some fun. Look for office girls or party girls in clubs, and I know some of you out there hang out on college campuses. However the vast majority of girls in this group are not particularly sophisticated and often don’t make much money. Expect to pay for everything on a date, though if you don’t mind fast food, these girls can be really cheap dates. These girls are almost never very sophisticated.
Girls between 25-30yo have tremendous pressure to get married and don’t really want to waste their time playing around. Girls in this category often make bad targets because they actually want to give it one last shot at getting married before their “best before 30yo” sell-by date. Expect to pay for everything on a date. Generally not very sophisticated girls in this group.
Women/girls 30-35yo tend to start thinking they have less and less chance at getting married. The older they get the less they dwell on the fact that in China they are considered over the hill as far as marriage goes, and they tend to get back into the game more for the physical aspect of sex or companionship/TLC. These girls can still be very physically attractive with nice skin tone, pert breasts (this is why I like relatively skinny girls with small breasts, they tend to have better breasts as they age, less mass to sag!), and many can afford to spend money on makeup and nice clothes to keep their appearances up. There are many married ones in this group, who if they married young can be bored out of their mind! Many have a child, and/or their husbands neglect to spend much time with them or travel a lot for work etc. Many in this group are professionals themselves and simply can’t find the time to find a good husband. Plus they know their husbands are probably having their fun too. This is a prime target age group for finding f**k buddies. I like this group because the really sweet ones want to contribute and will actually start thinking of you as a “friend” but not quite boyfriend. They will start to offer to pay for meals and give you little gifts and actually say “thank you” for such a lovely evening out (awe! Isn’t that sweet?). There are women (many are career professionals) in this category who may actually entertain the idea of paying for a duck, which apparently is a fairly popular activity in Shanghai (sorry don’t know much about the duck scene).
Women 35yo and older have mostly given up on marriage (however not necessarily completely given up, they just know it is a long shot) but will entertain the idea of a companion and/or f**k buddy. Unfortunately there are fewer and fewer attractive ones beyond 35yo (don’t get me wrong, there are hotties in this group to be found). There are plenty of MILF’s, divorcees, bored housewives, etc. who could use a good hard f**k in this group. Many of them have husbands who frequent BBS’s, saunas, KTV’s, have Er nai (second wives), freebies, etc. (hey wait a minute, this sounds like guys who read ISG!). Basically they have husbands who behave badly (hell, they probably read ISG or the Chinese equivalent!). Women in this group often have buying power and may offer to pay for the cost of going out, or they may even give you nice or thoughtful gifts. Women in this category would rather go out with a thoughtful companion (they miss the TLC) rather than just paying for a duck.
Good luck! MAB
[QUOTE=Mock A Bee]Ok, just a few words about freebies. A lot has been written already, but this is my 2 fen…
A lot has been discussed about where you find the freebies, such as social networking sites, etc. I am going to attempt to roughly categorize Chinese women based on my experience. Caveat emptor, YMMV.
Girls under 25yo can be very naive and tend to be more idealistic about finding “Mr. Right” for marriage. These girls are not particularly easy unless they perceive you as marriageable or they just want to experiment and/or have some fun. Look for office girls or party girls in clubs, and I know some of you out there hang out on college campuses. However the vast majority of girls in this group are not particularly sophisticated and often don’t make much money. Expect to pay for everything on a date, though if you don’t mind fast food, these girls can be really cheap dates. These girls are almost never very sophisticated.
Girls between 25-30yo have tremendous pressure to get married and don’t really want to waste their time playing around. Girls in this category often make bad targets because they actually want to give it one last shot at getting married before their “best before 30yo” sell-by date. Expect to pay for everything on a date. Generally not very sophisticated girls in this group.
Women/girls 30-35yo tend to start thinking they have less and less chance at getting married. The older they get the less they dwell on the fact that in China they are considered over the hill as far as marriage goes, and they tend to get back into the game more for the physical aspect of sex or companionship/TLC. These girls can still be very physically attractive with nice skin tone, pert breasts (this is why I like relatively skinny girls with small breasts, they tend to have better breasts as they age, less mass to sag!), and many can afford to spend money on makeup and nice clothes to keep their appearances up. There are many married ones in this group, who if they married young can be bored out of their mind! Many have a child, and/or their husbands neglect to spend much time with them or travel a lot for work etc. Many in this group are professionals themselves and simply can’t find the time to find a good husband. Plus they know their husbands are probably having their fun too. This is a prime target age group for finding f**k buddies. I like this group because the really sweet ones want to contribute and will actually start thinking of you as a “friend” but not quite boyfriend. They will start to offer to pay for meals and give you little gifts and actually say “thank you” for such a lovely evening out (awe! Isn’t that sweet?). There are women (many are career professionals) in this category who may actually entertain the idea of paying for a duck, which apparently is a fairly popular activity in Shanghai (sorry don’t know much about the duck scene).
Women 35yo and older have mostly given up on marriage (however not necessarily completely given up, they just know it is a long shot) but will entertain the idea of a companion and/or f**k buddy. Unfortunately there are fewer and fewer attractive ones beyond 35yo (don’t get me wrong, there are hotties in this group to be found). There are plenty of MILF’s, divorcees, bored housewives, etc. who could use a good hard f**k in this group. Many of them have husbands who frequent BBS’s, saunas, KTV’s, have Er nai (second wives), freebies, etc. (hey wait a minute, this sounds like guys who read ISG!). Basically they have husbands who behave badly (hell, they probably read ISG or the Chinese equivalent!). Women in this group often have buying power and may offer to pay for the cost of going out, or they may even give you nice or thoughtful gifts. Women in this category would rather go out with a thoughtful companion (they miss the TLC) rather than just paying for a duck.
Good luck! MAB[/QUOTE]
MAB,
My sentiments exactly about the age groups. I generally stay away from the married ones though. All you need is some jealous local powerful husband finding out you have been doing his wife even if he is out doing it every night. The wrong guy can make your life very difficult in China and with enough power can even make sure you cannot get a visa.
Just my POV.
OAH
went to this chain in the new century pudong area and found it was just veggie (they don't play with meat).
it was 300 rmb for a 90 min very good massage, but no happy ending. the therapist was shocked that i had my clothes off when she entered the room and quickly had me dress into shorts.
oh well, just tftt.
Thanks to the forum I went to experience my first red rope experience. I was in Pudong, but decided to take the taxi to 500 Wuzhong Lu. Along the ride, I was impressed at how modern the architecture of Shanghai is. At the end of the ride I was impressed by how many BBS appear along this street. I went in and self-showered, avoided the guy who spoke no English but wanted to scrub my skin off. Tried a luke-warm hot pool (hope i didn't catch anything there). Then got into japanese pajamas and went up to watch t.v. About 5 minutes later a line-up of 10 girls appeared. I chose the best looker out of my line up. #205 from Chongqing. She was 23 and had a little fat on tummy and ass, but was still nice looking. She had a green tag, meaning less experienced. The red tags were definitely older looking, but should have better skills. My girl had mad skills in the BBBJ, but was clumsy in the red rope technique. O.K. it is more like a silk cloth and she used it to perform an upside down BBBJ. Slowly twisting herself around and then letting go to spin rapidly. Despite the awkwardness, it felt good. I popped once then, rested up, and got a second BBBJ and covered FS for a second pop. For 598RMB it was a good experience. The room could have been nicer and it got rather warm and we didn't have individual control of the AC. Another minor annoyance was the noise of a drunk guy screaming (singing?) at the KTV upstairs was the best thing to put me in the mood. The taxi was 57 going and 87 returning. No traffic either way, so I don't understand the difference in price.
[QUOTE=Mock A Bee]Ok, just a few words about freebies. A lot has been written already, but this is my 2 fen…
A lot has been discussed about where you find the freebies, such as social networking sites, etc. I am going to attempt to roughly categorize Chinese women based on my experience. Caveat emptor, YMMV.
Girls under 25yo can be very naive and tend to be more idealistic about finding “Mr. Right” for marriage. These girls are not particularly easy unless they perceive you as marriageable or they just want to experiment and/or have some fun. Look for office girls or party girls in clubs, and I know some of you out there hang out on college campuses. However the vast majority of girls in this group are not particularly sophisticated and often don’t make much money. Expect to pay for everything on a date, though if you don’t mind fast food, these girls can be really cheap dates. These girls are almost never very sophisticated.
Girls between 25-30yo have tremendous pressure to get married and don’t really want to waste their time playing around. Girls in this category often make bad targets because they actually want to give it one last shot at getting married before their “best before 30yo” sell-by date. Expect to pay for everything on a date. Generally not very sophisticated girls in this group.
Women/girls 30-35yo tend to start thinking they have less and less chance at getting married. The older they get the less they dwell on the fact that in China they are considered over the hill as far as marriage goes, and they tend to get back into the game more for the physical aspect of sex or companionship/TLC. These girls can still be very physically attractive with nice skin tone, pert breasts (this is why I like relatively skinny girls with small breasts, they tend to have better breasts as they age, less mass to sag!), and many can afford to spend money on makeup and nice clothes to keep their appearances up. There are many married ones in this group, who if they married young can be bored out of their mind! Many have a child, and/or their husbands neglect to spend much time with them or travel a lot for work etc. Many in this group are professionals themselves and simply can’t find the time to find a good husband. Plus they know their husbands are probably having their fun too. This is a prime target age group for finding f**k buddies. I like this group because the really sweet ones want to contribute and will actually start thinking of you as a “friend” but not quite boyfriend. They will start to offer to pay for meals and give you little gifts and actually say “thank you” for such a lovely evening out (awe! Isn’t that sweet?). There are women (many are career professionals) in this category who may actually entertain the idea of paying for a duck, which apparently is a fairly popular activity in Shanghai (sorry don’t know much about the duck scene).
Women 35yo and older have mostly given up on marriage (however not necessarily completely given up, they just know it is a long shot) but will entertain the idea of a companion and/or f**k buddy. Unfortunately there are fewer and fewer attractive ones beyond 35yo (don’t get me wrong, there are hotties in this group to be found). There are plenty of MILF’s, divorcees, bored housewives, etc. who could use a good hard f**k in this group. Many of them have husbands who frequent BBS’s, saunas, KTV’s, have Er nai (second wives), freebies, etc. (hey wait a minute, this sounds like guys who read ISG!). Basically they have husbands who behave badly (hell, they probably read ISG or the Chinese equivalent!). Women in this group often have buying power and may offer to pay for the cost of going out, or they may even give you nice or thoughtful gifts. Women in this category would rather go out with a thoughtful companion (they miss the TLC) rather than just paying for a duck.
Good luck! MAB[/QUOTE]
Very nice summary.But how important is Chinese skills for women in their 30s? Also, where do you meet these girls, on the Internet mostly?
hello,
i've been a long time lurker. i've finally decided to contribute! i'm abc with very good chinese skills, so am familiar with the local scene.
here is the deal with saunas. most of the good local ones are closed. this includes the one on guang ling si lu with a cheap price of 398(! ) as recommended by a bro several months ago. the other local places that are still open are very very crowded. some local places will refuse foreign guests unless you bring along a chinese friend! many saunas experience "fire checks" by le.
for those of you that want some cheap bbs action, there is a strip of them on dong bao xing lu and zhong shan bei lu? . the bbs there offer bbbj and cim (if you can hide your reaction from the girl) for 100 or less. best of all, there is 2 semi-classy establishments on? (you can't miss it, it's big, looks nice, inside is empty. with girls sitting in there) that offer bjs for 100. one of them is next to an internet cafe if i remember correctly. the girls actually look good. good luck convincing them to leave with you, it probably won't work. there are also bbs on adjacent streets available for window shopping.
another good strip is? and? chi feng road and mi yun road. this is probably shanghai's most famous bbs spot for the locals, besides xiao mu qiao road. bbs line? . they even have uniforms. have fun window shopping. full service for 150-200.
for those of you saying bbs are dying, this is only partly true. just look harder for them. you can find a bbs every other street on shanghai. a good hint is free entries and exits. the bridge provides the perfect lighting for bbs. in fact, the freeway entry/exit in my neighbor are all lined with bbs.
personally, i'm more into independent action. hope some bros can share some phone numbers. i personally know some girls that provides very good service for 700-800 (this is including the late night transportation charge). but they do not speak english.! the locals (by this i mean the local rich) pay these "massage therapists" 260 for 90 minutes. full service can be negotiated when the legitimate play is over, usually anywhere between 600-800, 1000 or so for overnight. sometimes it is hit and miss, but when you come across a girl you like, ? ! personally my best bj and hj came from a massage girl.
that's all for now.
happy hunting.
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[QUOTE=Mock A Bee]Ok, just a few words about freebies. A lot has been written already, but this is my 2 fen…
A lot has been discussed about where you find the freebies, such as social networking sites, etc. I am going to attempt to roughly categorize Chinese women based on my experience. Caveat emptor, YMMV.....
Good luck! MAB[/QUOTE]
Very good summary. Here is my 2 fen ....
The easiest to catch is 30+. You can get them from the internet, cafe, restaurants, retail shops & even elevator.
Based on my experience, if they are willing to meet you in your hotel room you will get a 90+% chance to score. Most of them are still in very good shape and usually very willing to please you. Some of these are so hungry for sex and will try to empty your very last drop.
I have also got some 20+ girls who are willing to pay for dinner or drinks. I think this is rare or maybe I was just lucky. Usually I won't allow them to pay bec I know they don't earn much. These girls may rank 5-7 in look but their kindness is rank 10. If you honestly tell them that you just want to sleep with them, some may actually agree.
What train station is closest to Dong Bao Xing Lu and Zhong Shan Bei Lu?
Many thanks!
[QUOTE=Temujin87]Hello,
For those of you that want some cheap bbs action, there is a strip of them on Dong Bao Xing Lu and Zhong Shan Bei Lu? . The bbs there offer BBBJ and cim (if you can hide your reaction from the girl) for 100 or less. Best of all, there is 2 semi-classy establishments on? (You can't miss it, it's big, looks nice, inside is empty. With girls sitting in there) that offer bjs for 100. One of them is next to an internet cafe if I remember correctly. The girls actually look good. Good luck convincing them to leave with you, it probably won't work. There are also bbs on adjacent streets available for window shopping.
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The Chinese characters I typed didn't show up! Some words from my post are also missing.
Dong Bao Xing Lu has a train station, but I'm not sure of its proximity to the location I describe. Also, Xi Bao Xing Lu also has a bbs strip, but I have not been there yet.
[QUOTE=Shanghai Fosho]What train station is closest to Dong Bao Xing Lu and Zhong Shan Bei Lu?
Many thanks![/QUOTE]
Line 3, Dongbaoxing Road Station, also check: [url]http://www.smartshanghai.com/maps/smsh_metromap.php[/url]
Levitian
[QUOTE=Levitian]Line 3, Dongbaoxing Road Station, also check: [url]http://www.smartshanghai.com/maps/smsh_metromap.php[/url]
Levitian[/QUOTE]Line 8, XiZangBeiLu Station is closer.
[QUOTE=Nightwing88]Nightwing here with another positive report on Heting. This time, thanks to the 198RMB discount from Sacrosa, I had more incentive to check out this place that has been so readily reviewed by our brothers. A couple of points:
1. Does anyone know when the subway is going to be built in front of Heting? Traffic is a pain to and from this place!
2. Aside from that, the place is fantastic. The dressing room is immaculate, as are the showers, the sauna, the plunge pool. I like that the outside of Heting is all black, and that inside, it's another world designed for comfort and relaxation.
3. At 4pm on a Saturday afternoon, girl selection was very impressive, about 15 girls. I picked a short cutie from Yunnan province. Very sexy hair, sultry eyes and 34C cup breasts. Sorry, forgot the number!!!
4. The room was very nice, with a "full" sized mattress, recessed lighting, good temperature controls (we could turn the AC up or down as needed), and even nice music coming from an Aigo unit.
5. Once in the room, we did not follow the normal routine. Yunnan cutie went straight to DFK, BBBJ, and rubbed her puxxx all over my body. We went straight into covered sex in several positions before finishing in a pile of exhausted sweat on the bed.
6. Only afterwards did we cuddle and chat. She got me hard again, and we proceeded with round two in the bed room. So, for those brothers who asked earlier in the forum, you can get two shots at Heting; but I think it also depends if you can hit it off with the girl.
7. With 10 minutes left in the session, Yunnan cutie wanted round 3. I think if we had more time, I could have done a Nightwing first and given up 3 shots in one session!
8. After leaving the room, service at Heting was excellent as well. Had the Shanghai noodle soup, a Sprite and some sweet dessert soup while relaxing in the rest area.
9. Total cost was 600 RMB with the coupon. Very satisfied, and am definitely coming back to this place again!
Nightwing[/QUOTE]
Nightwing,
Take the #8 line and exit Siping Lu. Its a short walk up Siping Lu to the Sauna. Its a constuction diasater there now but what part of Shanghai isnt right now, lol.
Happy hunting. PC out
Anyone know if the best train station stop to get off at for this is yanchang rd? Many thanks. This forum has been extremely helpful!
[QUOTE=Davidoff Lite]Stumbled across a new area with a number of BBS. 4 of which are not the regular BBS as they only offer FS and whole package deals ie BBBJ then FJ. The diff with these places are most of the girls are 8 and above. Now comes the deal sealer - RMB150 max per pop. Nothing to negotiate.
So get your pens and paper ready, some might even want to have your GPS ready. These shops line the side of 志丹路 zhidan lu between 甘泉路 ganquanlu and 延长路 yanchanglu.
Stop the cab at the corner of zhidanlu and ganquanlu where there are two hair salons and a handphone shop then walk backwards towards yanchanglu for your window shoppping.[/QUOTE]
For all you wanting a new location to try.
Location: Xietu Lu / Nandan Lu
On the intersection, above the cafe 85c bakery.
Entrance on the left side of the bakery, you can see on the 3/F sign saying SAUNA. Looks run down but still operates.
Entrance: A guy sits there 24/7 to notify the staff upstairs that you are on the way. Once you have exhausted yourself up the stairs, they open the doors to greet you. The reception is small and simple but ok. A sofa is nearby the entrance where you remove your shoes and use flip flops to proceed to the changing rooms next door. You are given a key to open the locker for your clothes. Change into the usual sauna attire, place personal stuff into a bag and head off into your own room to await the arrival of a girl. If you know the girls number than tell them. (*628, great tits, young 21/22, average height, very tight, and not shanghainese! good BBJ).
Room: The room possesses a bed with wall to ceiling mirrors, a ceiling bar for rope tricks, a walk-in shower area with a blow up mattress for soapy massage and a seat for washing.
Soapy massage: Includes the obligatory arse licking with beads, and the all over body suck. After about 20-30 mins, the girl will dry you off and then proceed onto the bed for the main course.
All in all not a bad place, small and quiet. If you get the right girl you could be in for a treat. Last time the girl gave me her number, but deleted from memory for obvious reasons.
Cost: Rmb 640 - Rmb 680 (under Rmb 700)
[QUOTE=Blacklisted]
Also, from my travels around town, I think the BBS's are seriously drying up and I won't be surprised if they are non-existent come Expo 2010. For mongerers not living in SH, I would not be travelling here for P4P in the next 18 months +.
[/QUOTE]
Hmm...what about the towns or cities surrounding or near ShangHai? My China geography is poor, but if there are some smaller and less profile towns like an hour train/bus away, would it be an alternative to mongering in SH?
I'm sure the rich shanghais go somewhere to monger, just like the HK ones go to SZ or CP.
Bruce,
have a look at the Suzhou section of this forum. Suzhou is a city around 1 h away from Shanghai by car.
HEM
[QUOTE=BruceTea]Hmm...what about the towns or cities surrounding or near ShangHai? My China geography is poor, but if there are some smaller and less profile towns like an hour train/bus away, would it be an alternative to mongering in SH?
I'm sure the rich shanghais go somewhere to monger, just like the HK ones go to SZ or CP.[/QUOTE]I seriously doubt shanghai's scene will become 'none existent'. Most sauna's are still open now and still will be through expo. You can try Suzhou but Shanghai's still fat.
[QUOTE=Mello Yello]For all you wanting a new location to try.
Location: Xietu Lu / Nandan Lu
On the intersection, above the cafe 85c bakery.
Entrance on the left side of the bakery, you can see on the 3/F sign saying SAUNA. Looks run down but still operates.[/QUOTE]What area of town is this located in.. any known hotels or something nearby?
Have you been to some of the other soapies in SH.. and how does this compare in terms of girl selection, room set up, cleanliness and of course service / attitude?
[QUOTE=Mark17]What area of town is this located in.. any known hotels or something nearby?
Have you been to some of the other soapies in SH.. and how does this compare in terms of girl selection, room set up, cleanliness and of course service / attitude?[/QUOTE]
Mark,
Try this link and put in the street. You will find it.
[url]http://www.smartshanghai.com/maps/smsh_map_fullscreen.php[/url]
Hope it help, PC out
[QUOTE=White Dragon]I seriously doubt shanghai's scene will become 'none existent'. Most sauna's are still open now and still will be through expo. You can try Suzhou but Shanghai's still fat.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Blacklisted]
Also, from my travels around town, I think the BBS's are seriously drying up and I won't be surprised if they are non-existent come Expo 2010. For mongerers not living in SH, I would not be travelling here for P4P in the next 18 months +. [/QUOTE]
The gov't will clean up the place before the international event takes place. You just look at Beijing before and during the Olympics. SW and BBS was almost non-existent in Beijing.
There will be some places for fun like saunas and KTV's but they will be extremely cautious. ie veggie message. It will be also very dangerous.
[QUOTE=Mark17]What area of town is this located in.. any known hotels or something nearby?
Have you been to some of the other soapies in SH.. and how does this compare in terms of girl selection, room set up, cleanliness and of course service / attitude?[/QUOTE]
The location is on the intersection of xietu lu / nandan lu, near wanping lu.
Xujiahui & Stadium metro stations are less than 10mins walk.
Closest hotel is Motel168 on Wanping lu, and Radisson Plaza on Tianyaoqiao lu next to Ascenda Plaza.
Score factors out of 10
Room cleanliness: 7.5 (cleaner than most places been to)
Room setup: 7 (no tv, fully aircon'd, large comfy bed, walkin shower area larger than most ordinary bathrooms for soapy massage, water station in room, tissues, bin, ash tray, earbuds, the usual stuff)
Service: 7 (staff don't bother you much, if you need anything just ask)
Girls: 8 (shanghai, anhui, harbin, and others)
There is a lounge waiting area with tv's. You can wait after the deed or stay until morning breaks. Very quiet place for a quick and convenient session.
[QUOTE=BruceTea]Hmm...what about the towns or cities surrounding or near ShangHai? My China geography is poor, but if there are some smaller and less profile towns like an hour train/bus away, would it be an alternative to mongering in SH?
I'm sure the rich shanghais go somewhere to monger, just like the HK ones go to SZ or CP.[/QUOTE]
Bruce, the best option for getting to Suzhou is train. Catch a D train from Shanghai Railway Station, it will take aprox. 40 minutes to Suzhou (usually the second stop).
For tickets there is one English speaking counter at Shanghai Railway Station, be advised that there is no such counter at Suzhou so also buy the return ticket in Shanghai.
After arriving in Suzhou, walk out together with the horde of people to the taxi stand. For saunas (hot spring clubs) the best option is to go to Suzhou Industrial Park (SIP). If you dont speak chinese prepare taxi cards so you can get to the different locations. See posts in the Suzhou thread for more information about the clubs. Two good options are:
The Peninsula Hot Springs Club (located in a neighborhood center behind the Renaissance Hotel).
Whynn International Hot Springs Club (located next to the Shilla Hotel in the Times Square Shopping Area)
Taxi would cost approx 30RMB to Peninsula and 40RMB to Whynn from the railway station.
Fellas,
Its quite a while when I stumbled upon ISG and developed a new appetite for my 'unknown realm of mongering'. I am too naïve in this subject and too much to experience yet. I know its been said number of times before but its an obligation to me and I have to say this forum is one of its kind with great wealth of personal experiences.
Well, after RTFF,I tried several places already mentioned here and I wanted to add my 2 cents to some of my known spaces. There I tried to add report but alas I couldn't (before a month or so) . I was ashamed of being selfish in just grabbing without sharing. I don’t know the exact reason.. may be some proxy issue (I guess) and I thought it may be allowed only for subscribed members, that I am not. And I tried again today, just in case, and wow, I am in..
Any ways, here are some tried and tested HE scenes near Pudong Avenue/Zangyang Lu (let me confront some bros in Pudong as not much is written here, except Sacrosa, B2 and merrylin, that is all about Sauna experience. But sometime you are not up for full action and just want to pass time with young beauties pleasing you) All places below are in close proximity to each other, so in case you miss one, just go for another
Zhangyang Lu / Yuanshan Lu : on the corner 4 MPs in a raw, easy to locate (atleast for me as I am from Puxi , work in Pudong and not much familiar. So after tired from work (what a damn excuse) its really good to just get cuddled by lovely ladies)
Service: all of these places offer HJ/HE after massage, and you dont have to be shy to ask if you see its going off the track or better confirm beforehand. rooms are OK, mostly with shower inside. If you are lucky, you get a girl giving you really good massage, but most of the girls are so so in massage. Its better if you speak little mandarin. They usually ready to take off their clothes, once you chat with them and be nice to offer some tip. Once I got ‘LJ’ (Leg Job), where she used legs to shag me off. I am no fetish, but it was good experience to see her long legs in stockings and barely covered pussy.
Girls: above average, young and attractive. I take chances and go for different girls, so cannot really recommend, but most of them are good in their job. Speaks lil English, some are good.
price: from 298 (90 mins) onwards.
Weifang lu/Yuanshan lu : on the corner 2 MPs, beside a Hunan restaurant.
Service : HJ/HE after massage, dress down, body slides, FIV (I am sure you are not looking for only massage, if so go for some legit place). Here you need to take 2 hrs. package to get the job done. And normally girls expect you to tip after deed. Shower in the room.
Girls : young, above average you get a choice from petite to chubby.. its your call. Most of therm speaks English at least for the job.
Price : don’t go for the menu price here, its negotiable, if you are good in negotiation and its not the rush hour, it can be 350 (120 mins), bare in mind girls expect tip.. I hate it so much..
Fushan Lu: Between shangcheng lu and zhangyang lu, aprx. 200 mtrs from any side, look for the neon sign board reading ‘Massage’ with a wine glass, go inside the round gate
Service: footies, body massage and others. Don’t worry, also HJ/HE :D here if you go for footies, that is in joint room with 4 chairs, at the end they will ask you, whether you want body massage and that’s the clue. But if you don’t want to waste time, directly go for full body massage from the menu. They take you to separate room with shower attached. Girl will ask you for ‘xiao fei’ for extra service. Normally its 100 kuai for HJ with dress down and play with them.
Girls : Not much choice, young but average.
Price : 99 for Oily body massage +tip for HJ = 200
Rushan Lu/Yuanshan Lu : from the corner walk towards Dongfang lu and around 100 meters, on the right side, keep looking for a legit kind foot MP. There are 2 of them 20-30 meters apart, I prefer farthest one.
Service: HJ/HE. FS is available but never tried. Ask for ‘anmo’ and they take you upstair, in a small room with a crappy bed. She starts massage but really not into it just rubbing here n there, and will ask for HJ/HE. (You don’t have to worry about language, they know what you want) with extra tip dress down, FIV. Its lil painful as they don’t use oil and its only food for a quick rush session for release.
Girls : no choice, below average, no English (but why do you need it any ways)
Price : 50 for massage + 50 for HJ = 100
I am not repeating any places mentioned near Jingqiao, on weifang lu, etc. please RTFF.
Also there are few more places in the same area, which I yet to try. May be it looks more legit, but I am sure , if you be a lil bold, you are right on the action.
Thanks for all who are contributing here, I will keep posting and happy hunting.
Haven
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After a long flight, I thought it a good idea to get a good HE massage. Went to 191 Nandan since it was close, although I was debating the new soapy that was posted over on Nandan Dong (east) and Xietu. But with time and money, I can take care of that experience.
This was my first HE oil massage. After 999 and Sacrosa, I thought I needed a new experience. Well, it doesn't compare.
First, you go in. I was automatically ushered in by a girl. Up the stairs, into a room. The room was pretty sketchy. The floor was oily (and I'm only guessing what else). After a little wait the girl comes in. She was a solid 8. The massage was good. It's pretty legit up until she props your legs up on her thighs and starts giving the little man some attention. Eventually flipped over and at that point there was access to touch her. The word 'tip' comes up. She said 200, which I thought fair but then I assumed it covered everything. I tried taking off her top and it went 300. I said no. For 200 I got access to everything downstairs, which was fine for me. I rubbed her off, and no mention of tip was made again.
At the end got stiffed for the foot massage. Apparently everyone was busy. I wasn't really wanting to spend another 40 minutes. I didn't see a number on her to reference, but there's no fishbowl, so unless you've got language skills and are a regular, you get what you get.
The good, is that it's cheap way to get off 228 RMB. If you don't care to touch, you can walk out for 228 RMB. So, long as you can pop, you'll be just as happy. The place is dingy. Just fair warning. You get what you pay for.
Few places worth mentioning:
1. I have been getting FS from a normal massage place where massages are 30rmb. She never asked for more money or phone number or anything. She teased me with nipple play and kissing. The problem is the shop is really not set up for it so there are plenty of times we simply could not make it happen.
Go to the corner of ShaanXi Lu and Chang Ping Lu. There is a small shop where they have 20rmb foot massage with only 4-5 chairs, then in the back of that there are 2 massage beds with only curtains for "privacy". Make sure to get the furthest back bed. The only time she will do it is when nobody else is in the back section and we get the back bed. Ask for "Cui Hua" to massage you. Best strategy is get a foot massage to break the ice. If she asks how you know her name just BS and say you came here before, heard someone say her name and it looks like her massage skill is good. (Don't expect a supermodel for 30rmb, hump quick and quietly or you will get everyone in trouble and blow a good thing for me)
2. One block down ShaanXi Lu (toward Jing An direction) Between Chang Ping Lu and Kang Ding Lu is a strip of shops that appears to have just opened. They claim they have been there for 3 years, but I have been investigating that block for a while, and at a minimum they have been closed for a long time. There are a few legit foot places, and a few that are definitely questionable. I got FS is the first shop (closest to Chang Ping Lu). They are Wen Zhou girls, which from my experience 95% of the time never offer FS). She asked for 200 but agreed to 150. Guys, PLEASE pay 150. We cant let them get away with charging too much especially 150 now is almost like 200 a few years ago.
Service was very nice, although she got to the point of her massage kind of quick. Her breasts were large, and vag was super clean and smooth but not tight. I took the older of the bunch. There is a young cutie that is worth trying.
fbnc
[QUOTE=Qubei]The Peninsula Hot Springs Club (located in a neighborhood center behind the Renaissance Hotel).
Whynn International Hot Springs Club (located next to the Shilla Hotel in the Times Square Shopping Area)
Taxi would cost approx 30RMB to Peninsula and 40RMB to Whynn from the railway station.[/QUOTE]What about the Whynn International Hot Springs Club is that good ? i try to find some info on the suzhou topic but without sucess. Can you give more info please?
Sorry if I'm being dense....
[QUOTE=Mock A Bee]There are women (many are career professionals) in this category who may actually entertain the idea of paying for a duck, which apparently is a fairly popular activity in Shanghai (sorry don’t know much about the duck scene).
Women 35yo ... would rather go out with a thoughtful companion (they miss the TLC) rather than just paying for a duck.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=One Eyed Man]Sorry if I'm being dense....[/QUOTE]The chinese term for a gigilo is a DUCK. If the significant other catches you servicing their wife on the sly, then you are a "smoked Duck"
[QUOTE=Xal Jean]What about the Whynn International Hot Springs Club is that good ? i try to find some info on the suzhou topic but without sucess. Can you give more info please?[/QUOTE]
Hi,
See my post in the Suzhou thread :)
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=886299&postcount=239[/url]
Tonight I had dinner with another girl I know, and she explained to me she is now away from this business because the place she worked at was hunt down, 4 customers and all girls brought to jail, 10 days. With alert to employer and also girl parents.
Next time, it will be 1 year in jail.
Kinda scary so guys, be careful and especially avoid the time around 8pm.
SC
Ira Johnson, the forum rules (blue horizontal bar above - next to "User CP" tab) very clearly state that members are forbidden from self promotional posts, and I am struggling to see how your posts, where you are offering to sell sex aid medicine, are anything other than self promotion.
Not trying to be a jerk, but rules are rules for everyone, not just for some of us. What say ye ?
I agree with Sixty, gotta be careful guys. A few nights ago, I decided to check out the BBS strip mentioned recently on the board to see what the big fuss was about. First, I agree with whoever posted that some are very young, and in fact I got confirmation that they are too young, if you know what I mean.
Anyways, I almost got caught up in the middle of a raid. Luckily the one that I was in had a look out person outside and quickly biked locked the doors from the outside and turned down all the lights. Was stuck inside for about 20 mins while LE was trying to open/look inside the curtained windows.
I guess I should've saw that coming, as when first walking down the street, one of the stores had all the girls walking out, as I assume they were tipped off.
Was told there has been a lot of raids recently and even more so in the past couple of weeks. Also that during the past couple of weeks there was a big influx of foreigners, so they aren't sure if there is a connection there. No doubt that our board might of had something to do with that influx..
Furthermore, I personally don't think this area is anything special. I know a lot of the old "famous" BBS area has been shut down recently, but there are still tons around the city. And in any area a bit further away from downtown, you can surely find similar type of bbs, girls, costs. Just takes a bit of exploring..but that's part of the fun, isn't it?
Anyways, just a reminder for everyone to be a bit more careful.
BJ
[QUOTE=Sixty Cent]Tonight I had dinner with another girl I know, and she explained to me she is now away from this business because the place she worked at was hunt down, 4 customers and all girls brought to jail, 10 days. With alert to employer and also girl parents.
Next time, it will be 1 year in jail.
Kinda scary so guys, be careful and especially avoid the time around 8pm.
SC[/QUOTE]
There was a raid there last night.
[QUOTE=Davidoff Lite]Stumbled across a new area with a number of BBS. 4 of which are not the regular BBS as they only offer FS. These shops line the side of 志丹路 zhidan lu between 甘泉路 ganquanlu and 延长路 yanchanglu.
Stop the cab at the corner of zhidanlu and ganquanlu where there are two hair salons and a handphone shop then walk backwards towards yanchanglu for your window shoppping.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Lao Ma]Ira Johnson, the forum rules (blue horizontal bar above - next to "User CP" tab) very clearly state that members are forbidden from self promotional posts, and I am struggling to see how your posts, where you are offering to sell sex aid medicine, are anything other than self promotion.
Not trying to be a jerk, but rules are rules for everyone, not just for some of us. What say ye ?[/QUOTE]Yes - agree 100%!! We've seen several of your posts - even in the Photo gallery before it got taken down, offering your pharmacological services and it IS getting to be a bit much.
This is the rule that Lao Ma refers to:
[QUOTE]No Self-Promotion: Please do not post any messages anywhere on this site that are primarily for the promotion or advertising of any website, forums, email address, business, multi-level marketing activity, or other entities that you have an affiliation with EXCEPT in the classified advertising section.[/QUOTE]So perhaps you could restrict your posting of such promotion to the Classified advertising section?
Thanks
SEAJ
Are there any safe massage places right now?
[QUOTE=Leche]Are there any safe massage places right now? [/QUOTE]I would also like to know this. I am in Shanghai for work and will leave in about 2 weeks. I would like some good tips on where to go and where to NOT go.
I would also like to know what the normal rates are in Shanghai. I have read some of the latest posts, but many people forget to mension prices.
I would not hesitate to try some random places if it was legal in China, but the recient police-raids has made me very conservative. Is there any "safe" way to do this? Should I try a club, or call a pimp and order someone to the hotell?
What is your recommendations? I would really like to try something different, like a soapy. I live in Germany, so normal brothels is kind of "boring" to me as there are tons of them LEGAL in Germany.
I was pushed for time and it was the afternoon, not the sort of time to go around BBS, so I ended up at a quite decent looking massage/spa on Xietu Lu/Nandan Lu next door to a convenient store and less than 50m from my local sauna place above cafe 85c bakery. (see previous post)
I'd been in this place 3 times before just for a body massage/foot massage for only rmb88. All legit and quite relaxing. Overall, the place is clean, safe and the manager or mamasan who is always dressed very well, is also very pretty and speaks english.
Anyway, this time I wanted to try an oil massage (rmb198), so I told the girl and she ushered me into the furtherest back area of the premises into a room no more than 10ft x 10ft. The room had a small shower cubicle, a massage bed, and an aircon unit. OK, so I waited no more than a minute when the prettiest girl arrives. (9/10 stunner). She then makes the bed, and gives me a pair of disposable paper shorts to put on. (to be honest, a waste of time as she'll have them off later!). So onto the oil massage on the back first, then the legs. Thats when she then removes the paper shorts. (20mins into massage). So off they come, with a struggle, and then proceeds to massage the important areas. Very erotic, enough to have you gagging for it. After 10 mins of ball tickling, she turns you over for the main event. No need to describe, but as I said, this girl is definitely a 9 and with a great smile. Tried to touch her up, she never resisted but then again never got much muff to play with. But had I changed positions slightly then a different story.
So to finish, a quick shower, and pay the girl at the desk only rmb198. There were other prices, rmb298 & rmb398 longer time and probably more variety, but will try it out one bored day.
I normally don't do the HE stuff, but I thought i'd try it to see what the fuss was all about. It's ok once in a while, and besides you get a half decent massage as well. Better still, it won't be raided!
Will see another place just opposite soon, so will keep you guys posted soon.
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I'm heading over to shanghai for the first time soon. First time in China. I've heard from people that some hotels have massage parlors in the hotel? Is this true? Whats the best option for a newbie who won't want to travel far from hotel? I will most likely be staying at a big chain hotel like Sheraton, Intercontinental, Hilton, etc. Any options for incall. Calling girls to room?
[QUOTE=Lao Ma]Ira Johnson, the forum rules (blue horizontal bar above - next to "User CP" tab) very clearly state that members are forbidden from self promotional posts, and I am struggling to see how your posts, where you are offering to sell sex aid medicine, are anything other than self promotion.
Not trying to be a jerk, but rules are rules for everyone, not just for some of us. What say ye ?[/QUOTE]You're probably right.
I'm not sure it's as much self-promotion as a public service.
I tried some of Ira's medication just for the hell of it. While I didn't get the distance reported by some, I sure got extra mileage in a couple of sprints.
The prices for hermetically sealed stuff with all the trappings of anything you'd find in a legitimate pharmacy stateside or in the UK are ridiculously reasonable. Nobody is making a fortune on this.
I got three outstanding results one afternoon including 999 and two BBS girls simultaneously; and then 999 again within 24 hours. 999 is ridiculously expensive, but it is a kick to pick from a bevy of semi-beauties. 805 is a fine young lady who goes well beyond the routine; 855 ain't so good.
The only negative about Ira's junk is a little headache htat persists as long as the effects do.- a semi-buzz.
But you're right. Business is business.
[QUOTE=Leche]Are there any safe massage places right now? [/QUOTE]Impossible to say but here are some of my experiences and thoughts that may or may not help.
I've been caught up in 2 raids many years ago, both at bbs places, so lets start there. Both times they occurred somewhere between 8-10pm. Undercover cops came in with digital camera's. Both places offered FS and had a good selection of cute young girls (why I was there). Fortunately both times I was fully clothed and nothing had happened yet. 1st time they told me to leave, second time I had to stay until senior policeman arrived. 2nd time I spoke with cop saying I didn''t have my passport with me and I was there for legitimate massage. No photo's were taken and eventually I was released. Bbs places are dangerous because they are easy to enter and for locals to see whats going on but good in the sense not only FS is offered. You could just be in for a HJ. They can technically only prove FS if they photograph you in the act (thank goodness that never happened). I've had some harrowing experiences in my life and this was certainly one of them. My advice is to avoid the mid evening times. It makes sense thats when they will raid as the streets are quiter after rush hour and dinner, bbs have most girls and customers then and the fuzz don't have to work too late into the night. Avoid FS in a bbs where there is no security setup/warning system/lock on booth. Don't take your pants off and if caught insist you are there for legit massage. Personally I don't think they care about HJ (but I could be wrong), only shops promoting FS, possibly BJ (riskier activities) and shops that are 'enslaving' lots of young girls, usually from other provinces and often possibly also working illegally in shanghai (another reason to raid).
Sauna's are a whole other ballgame because it is obvious FS is the caper going down and you can't exactly escape, especially when your stuff is in a locker. Again avoid certain times of the night and choose less busy times. If a sauna has been raided, shut down and re-opened it may be safe as they may have effectively paid off police but its NO gaurantee. Same with classy established places, there's NO gaurantee they will be spared. But I suppose places that invest and make money are going to fair better with police.
The safest way is to try pick up freebies or WG's from bars or massage services to your room/home where you have some added safety/privacy and harder for police to follow or prove things. Its much easier for them to raid establishments or areas than individuals.
Take care out there! I was lucky with my bbs experiences but they were NOT fun.
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Went for a walk tonight. My objective #1 was to go to a Sauna. But, before that I thought I'd get myself worked up by checking out the BBS scene. If I saw something I liked, I'd bite.
Getting to these couldn't be easier. First hop on the subway. It's not so hard really. If you have never done it than you've never experienced Shanghai. Go to the kiosk. Hit the "English" button. Hit #4 Line. Look for Dong'An Station. It'll be South West side of town in puxi. Pop in your change and a card will come out. Take that card to the turnstiles and place it atop the reader thing. If you don't know what you're doing just watch people. You'll get it. Now, just take what ever trains you must and changeover wherever you must, and get out at Dong'An Rd Station. Upon exit you'll follow the signs to the exit. You'll put the card into the turnstile and walk through. If you look clueless enough maybe a cute girl will help you and you'll end up with a freebie.
Okay, so exit. You'll want to exit such that you are deposited on the south side of Ling Ling Lu. Okay, so start walking east. When you exit the station just keep on that side of the road. Your first target will be up on your right. It's a door that's nestled between what looks like a cig shop and a local dive restaurant. If it is night, the pink will be on. Look in, double back, if you like it go for it. Keep walking if not. Keep walking. That's really it for a while. Keep on the south side of the road. You'll see another place coming up. Looks a little classier. Take a look. If not, keep walking. Now, at the next intersection, you can move to the other side of the road (north side). Now there will be about 3-4 options. Just keep walking and you'll see them. One had some big busty types. The next-to-the last had some young ones. Essentially keep walking until you hit Damuqiao Station. Double back if you want to see more. At Damuqiao station you have some options if you didn't like what you saw. 1) you can keep BBSing. Go north on DaMuQiao and just walk around the block. 2) Hop on the train and go back to Shanghai Indoor Stadium exit and go south on TianYaoQiao to 999 3) Go home.
Conclusion, I didn't like what I saw on offer around 8-9 pm. So I went to 2nd a "new" sauna on Xietu Lu and Nan Dan Dong Lu. Report to follow.
[QUOTE=Leche]Are there any safe massage places right now?[/QUOTE]I've got my ears quite close to the ground in the Laoshan Lu / Weifang Lu area, Tequila is kept under LE pressure, many face in window joints are gone, but no word of raids. Last known raid in Laoshan lu was last September, one lady held overnight for questioning, released. Business in this area died with the Olympics, yet many new (smart) establishments have opened. Tequila's neighbour, previouly known on the board as a FS joint at 288 rmb, has changed hands, is now owned by an ex cop. It's theme is reverse foot massage, a lady in special silk stockings gives a body massage using her feet. All the rage in Shanghai or so the Laoban Niang informs me!
ID
I've got my ears quite close to the ground in the Laoshan Lu / Weifang Lu area, Tequila is kept under LE pressure, many face in window joints are gone, but no word of raids. Last known raid in Laoshan lu was last September, one lady held overnight for questioning, released. Business in this area died with the Olympics, yet many new (smart) establishments have opened. Tequila's neighbour, previouly known on the board as a FS joint at 288 rmb, has changed hands, is now owned by an ex cop. It's theme is reverse foot massage, a lady in special silk stockings gives a body massage using her feet. All the rage in Shanghai or so the Laoban Niang informs me!
ID
Went to the Xietu and Nandan Dong (east) Lu Soapy that was previously reported. Liked the fact that the location was close to XuJiaHui where I live. I can walk. After the fact on my way home I can stop by Harley's and get a beer.
Okay, if you aren't in Xujiahui, then you can 1) take a taxi or 2) you can take the subway to the Xujiahui station and exit #9. Go north on Caoxi lu and turn left on Nan Dan Dong Lu. At some point you'll want to cross the road, but that's not a big deal. A couple blocks down you'll hit the Nandan/Xietu intersection. You'll see the bakery that was reported. Most people are just drinking the rancid milk tea stuff, but anyways, some of the cakes look nice. Go around the corner a bit and there will be a guy on the outside with a 2 way radio sitting on a chair. Just walk in the entrance. He'll say "San Low", which is 3rd floor. You'll walk up, sit down, they'll take your shoes like its a bowling alley and you'll walk too the changing room like slippers. Unlike 999 (comparing) you'll skip the shower (it's a soapy after all). You'll disrobe, go to a room. A girl will walk in. She'll ask if she is okay. If not say no...saying 'Boo Shuh' will work with a thumbs down if you don't like. They'll send another. So, basically, no lineup.
From there she'll take care of you. The program (comparing again) isn't as methodical as 999. But there were some highlights. The colonoscopy (AR) was spirited. Everything else seemed to be somewhat freestyle. She'll ask you if you want soapy, pointing towards it. Of course you do. Otherwise just go to Sacrosa. It's good slippery fun. After all that you go to the small bed. From there the drill starts with BBBJ. I think she used some sort of menthol stuff becuase my little man was tingly. I ended doggy, that's how I like it. I bring my own raincoats because they fit and feel better. I'd suggest the same.
Okay, so rankings
Girl: #628
Tits: 8
Butt: 7
Abs: 7
Overall: 7.5
BBBJ: 9
GFE: 8 - she made lots of porn star sounds and had a good performance
Repeat: 999 is a 15 minute walk...no
Time: 60 minutes...felt rushed
Damage: 766 @ 9pm (peak rate) incl 18 for beer.
Conclusion: It's an okay place. I think that it is second fiddle to 999. 999 is just very consistent and hard to beat. I'd repeat after I worked my way through all the 999 girls. That would be prohibitively expensive.
[QUOTE=Buzzy]I would also like to know this. I am in Shanghai for work and will leave in about 2 weeks. I would like some good tips on where to go and where to NOT go.
I would also like to know what the normal rates are in Shanghai. I have read some of the latest posts, but many people forget to mention prices.
I would not hesitate to try some random places if it was legal in China, but the recent police-raids has made me very conservative. Is there any "safe" way to do this? Should I try a club, or call a pimp and order someone to the hotel?
What is your recommendations? I would really like to try something different, like a soapy. I live in Germany, so normal brothels is kind of "boring" to me as there are tons of them LEGAL in Germany.[/QUOTE]
The experience will be very different from Germany. So, don't discount it. I'd suggest 999 as a soapy. Just search the forum for directions and details. It's a lot of fun. RTFF
If you are in to raw stuff, then BBS's are good. Requires some foot work. You don't seem to want to take a risk, so best just to avoid it.
If you want some sport, you can try the Tong Ren Lu rip-off bars. You'll get a lot of different options there. If you can tell the difference between a Chinese, Filipina, or Vietnamese girl, you can have a lot of fun.
Market Prices:
Soapy FS Massage: 700 RMB (999 before 8pm is 680 RMB)
Non-soapy FS massage: 550 RMB (Sacrosa before 8pm is 550 RMB)
Peak-time (later than 8pm) add about 150 RMB
HE Oil massage: 250-300 RMB
Craigslist FS: 600-800 RMB
BBS: 200-300 (HJ/BBBJ to FS)
TongRenLu take home FS: 600-800 RMB (ST to LT, Filipina 800, Chinese 600) + cost of drinks $$$$$
Greek: 1200 RMB (FS to Greek can be 100 RMB, but depends on the girl)
For those of you that do not read the photo gallery (and why wouldn't you?), I want to share the departure of a legend. I hope it is only temporary.
Of all the bros I have met through this forum, Eaglestar is far and away my closest personal friend. He and I have had differences of opinion and debated war stories, but he has been a gentleman and guru throughout.
His photos and tales of freebies have inspired many of us, and personally I have a track record I am proud of - due primarily to what I learned from Eaglestar.
He deserves his own thread here, describing the ways and means of hunting for non-P4P. This is not my idea, but has been suggested by many others. So far he's been humble and quiet about the praise heaped upon him, but perhaps we can get him to continue to hold court while he is on sabbatical...
Now he's leaving the land of the freebies and headed back to the land of the not-so-free. I don't know his plans for sure, but I am praying he makes a safe return to these shores.
Brethren - Coffee, tea, water, beer - whatever you are quaffing right now - lift it in toast to a legend.
Eaglestar, you will be missed. Come back soon.
I
Dragon,
You are being paged.................
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Originally Posted by Beijing Xiber
I thought Dragon D already has this type service in Shanghai. Maybe he can expand to all around China and sell franchises!
Keep safe.
BJXB
Is Dragon D still operating? How well is he doing? does he do anything else besides guiding ISG mongers? Just curious.
Perhaps Dragon D himself could answer??!
Yooooohoooooo.............. Dragon...... Give us all a shout!!
SEAJ
[QUOTE=Paulmartin]On my way out of Shanghai. The Shanghai hotel 4th floor is closed. The owner moved around the corner---walking out of hotel Lobby, turn left, second street turn left. Half way down the block.
Have fun.[/QUOTE]Do you have the name of the place? I'll be in Shanghai next week.
All this closing is sad news. I wonder where the WG are moving to for business... Hong Kong?
[QUOTE=Lex Moon]Very good summary. Here is my 2 fen.
The easiest to catch is 30+. You can get them from the internet, cafe, restaurants, retail shops & even elevator.[/QUOTE]Hi there,
I will be in SH again early July and mid-July for 4 days each, so not much time to really build any relationships. Typically I just frequented the Saunas and Tongren Lu during my stay, but the first scares me a bit with raids and the latter is getting tiresome as the girls there are only looking for money (even though they went home with me "for free", they quickly asked presents) and are rather low-level in their english skills.
So for meeting a more decent girl (that does not want to marry me outright. Been there as well.), what are good places? At Xin Tian Di I always ended up with hookers.
Also, can you recommend a good "dating" site?
Thanks!
PS: Please continue reports on Saunas closed/raided, though the lack of such postings only indicates that nobody really knows how serious it is?
[QUOTE=JoyofSex]
PS: Please continue reports on Saunas closed/raided, though the lack of such postings only indicates that nobody really knows how serious it is?[/QUOTE]
It's not too serious. The truth is that there are way too many FS Saunas and BBS's (hundreds if not thousands) in town for the government to shut down. Keep in mind that these places were designed by and for locals. We are just guests. What may draw LE is a bunch of foreign guys lurking around one area. That would give them an opportunity to exert extra pressure in the form of higher fees on those establishments. Raids are the way to do it.
There doesn't seem to be a concerted effort to clean places up. It's just a one-by-one occurrence. It may even be scheduled around official reviews where local officials clean up the streets for a couple days while the senior official tours. Then it is ignored until the next review.
If you are really worried about a raid you can go further out into suburbia. One place that has a lot of BBS (easily 15-20 on a Saturday night) is up in Baoshan district. Songfa Subway station is the easiest way to get there. And walk the streets of Songnan and Changjiang. There is actually one right next to the police station.
[QUOTE=JoyofSex]
So for meeting a more decent girl (that does not want to marry me outright. Been there as well.), what are good places? At Xin Tian Di I always ended up with hookers.
[/QUOTE]
My experience is that it is nearly random. Decent girls don't hang out on TRL or in bars for that matter. I think a low-key Starbucks in a area frequented by foreigners is a best bet (Zhongshan Park, Xujiahui, Jing'An). It's not hard to find a female freind if you just want to hang out and be friends. You can find those on Craigslist too. Most do not want to get entangled seriously with a visitor.
My experience is that getting to something sexual takes time, money, and adds complications. A good mix for me is to make friends with local girl(s) for companionship and take care of your physical needs at the Sauna, BBS, etc. It's basically what Chinese men do...they have a wife they rarely have sex with after childbirth and use the establishments for physical needs.
Using the search option doesn't bring the report but the thread where to find the query. Bottom line you have to read entire 5 or 6 pages before finding your answer. The word isn't highlighted either, therefore there is a great chance to look over it.
I am searching for the town of WUXY, and I am being out of luck so far.
Has anyone ever try the ads on craigslist for Shanghai?
Are they safe?
Sorry for my poor english
Few month ago I meet in Juddys TRL a girl his name ANGEL/MARIMAR
Do you have some information about this girl perfect dancer beautifull and big boobs maybe you remember
Can you tell me where she is because its along time I don't see her
Thanks and hope you understand my message
[QUOTE=Vista Sushi]It's not too serious. [.] That would give them an opportunity to exert extra pressure in the form of higher fees on those establishments. Raids are the way to do it.[/QUOTE]Well, IF I happen to be caught in one I would call that serious.
But as you said in your other posts, Saunas are the best way to have the physical needs taken care of (no interest in BBS), so even though I am a veteran to the SH sauna scene I'm not a permanent resident and thus appreciate any warning.
To come back to the original topic: Is there a good dating site except from craiglist and ís not just a rip-off? I come to SH so often (and am currently single) that I'd be willing to invest time and built a relationship if the girl was right. The ones that I met in the field, though, were certainly not.
[QUOTE=Haokool]Using the search option doesn't bring the report but the thread where to find the query. Bottom line you have to read entire 5 or 6 pages before finding your answer. The word isn't highlighted either, therefore there is a great chance to look over it.
I am searching for the town of WUXY, and I am being out of luck so far.[/QUOTE]
Never heard of WUXY. Could you mean Wuxi? If so, it is between Suzhou and Changzhou about 2 to 2 1/2 hours drive, or about one hour + by express train west of Shanghai.
ES
Best to go to Suzhou than Wuxi.
Hi,
Any suggestions to a western hotel near Sacrosa? Other than JW Marriott Hotel Shanghai at Tomorrow Square.
Many Thanks,
Rex
[QUOTE=JoyofSex]Well, IF I happen to be caught in one I would call that serious.
But as you said in your other posts, Saunas are the best way to have the physical needs taken care of (no interest in BBS), so even though I am a veteran to the SH sauna scene I'm not a permanent resident and thus appreciate any warning.
To come back to the original topic: Is there a good dating site except from craiglist and ís not just a rip-off? I come to SH so often (and am currently single) that I'd be willing to invest time and built a relationship if the girl was right. The ones that I met in the field, though, were certainly not.[/QUOTE]
Try the personals here: [url]http://shanghai.asiaxpat.com/login.asp[/url]
I used it when I first traveled to Shanghai. I placed an ad with a phot figuring nobody knows me there any ways. If you are not bad looking you'll get a lot of responses.
Also [url]www.chinesefriendfinder.com[/url]
[url]www.plentyoffish.com[/url] is not bad also
[QUOTE=Jhon 98]Sorry for my poor english
Few month ago I meet in Juddys TRL a girl his name ANGEL/MARIMAR
Do you have some information about this girl perfect dancer beautifull and big boobs maybe you remember
Can you tell me where she is because its along time I don't see her
Thanks and hope you understand my message[/QUOTE]
Jhon,
Be careful what you ask for... Many if not most of the big boobed 'girls' that dance in TRL (Judy or Manhattans) are actually transvestites. I can't vouch for Angel or Miramar but just careful or you may end up getting something you really did not want - but as you wrote "a girl his name", so maybe that is what you were looking for in any case.
[QUOTE=Rex69]Hi,
Any suggestions to a western hotel near Sacrosa? Other than JW Marriott Hotel Shanghai at Tomorrow Square.
Many Thanks,
Rex[/QUOTE]Intercontinental, Purple Mountain
[QUOTE=Yellow Fever #2]Jhon,
Be careful what you ask for. Many if not most of the big boobed 'girls' that dance in TRL (Judy or Manhattans) are actually transvestites. I can't vouch for Angel or Miramar but just careful or you may end up getting something you really did not want. But as you wrote "a girl his name", so maybe that is what you were looking for in any case.[/QUOTE]Mixing he and she is the most common mistake in this country when speaking English, so let us not assume him wrongly too fast. I do not understand anyhow how these shemales get business, but maybe I am too naive
FA
[QUOTE=Yellow Fever #2]Jhon,
Be careful what you ask for... Many if not most of the big boobed 'girls' that dance in TRL (Judy or Manhattans) are actually transvestites. I can't vouch for Angel or Miramar but just careful or you may end up getting something you really did not want - but as you wrote "a girl his name", so maybe that is what you were looking for in any case.[/QUOTE]Even she have big boobs she is a real girl with beautifully pussy.
Thanks
Building on an earlier post I had to try. The jury is still out, but wait a minute.
Here is how it works. It is indeed a wonderful styled place and the girls are stunners, but as we are in an expatriate living quarter (I assume from the environment) there are pitfalls. 200RMB for an hour oil is steep, from 1, 5 hours the HJ seems to be included. The rooms are classical and the girls playful. BUT the main objective is to buy time AND to sell the stupid VIP discount card (I forgot but something like 1000 RMB gives you a 10% discount etc.). Nothing wrong with that, you also get a 40 RMB voucher for next time. The girl let me explore everything, one of my best HJs ever and she was a good masseuse. But I do not think I want to pay 100 RMB for half an hour sales pitch on the stupid VIP card, which she did after we finished the deed. Whoever gave them this idea may be beaten.
I told her when she comes to my hotel after work I would buy the VIP card, after she had promised as a VIP client she may come. Well I have her number, I did not call her in the evening as I was prebooked buy my Sacrosa lovely at her home, sweet memories from long ago.
But she actually called me these days and asked whether I was in Shanghai, well I was not, but will report how it continues, but would be dammned careful there. They are certainly commercial oriented
You can pay with UnionPay card and get a receipt, from my Chinese it can not be traced back to the venue, so those on expenses, maybe an incentive but no guarantee.
Overall high class on location, massage and girls, but it is close to a scam, I paid in the end for 2 hours 400 RMB and a 100RMB tip for full naked access and that is too close to the Sacrosa afternoon, so no repeat unless I get her in my hotel for a reasonable overnight stay.
Anybody similar experiences there?
i am visiting shanghai for the first time in a couple of weeks. i have been reading the reports and find them usefull, so thanks to all who take the time to report. i am looking for recommendations for a spa or sauna when i can go and receive a good massage along with some xtra activities. i am interested a longer stay 1-2 hrs. with some actual therapeutic massage. i prefer boobs on the bigger side, so if anybody has suggestions, thanks in advance.
I have heard of such schemes which were floated some years back in the south; not exactly from saunas or spas but from beauty parlours (not BBS) and some of the locals actually paid in excess of RMB 3000 and while they did enjoy the so called discounts on the first couple of hair do's; facials or whatever; but then overnight the establishment would shut down and even the employees were not aware...
My take on these scams is that once they achieved their goals on say about 100 plus clients with a received booty of about 300K RMB; they would just shut down and dissappear....I am not saying that this would happen in the your case....but one never knows...
I rather fend off such sales pitches and pay as I use their services.
Play safe
CM
[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso]Building on an earlier post I had to try. The jury is still out, but wait a minute.
Here is how it works. It is indeed a wonderful styled place and the girls are stunners, but as we are in an expatriate living quarter (I assume from the environment) there are pitfalls. 200RMB for an hour oil is steep, from 1, 5 hours the HJ seems to be included. The rooms are classical and the girls playful. BUT the main objective is to buy time AND to sell the stupid VIP discount card (I forgot but something like 1000 RMB gives you a 10% discount etc.). Nothing wrong with that, you also get a 40 RMB voucher for next time. The girl let me explore everything, one of my best HJs ever and she was a good masseuse. But I do not think I want to pay 100 RMB for half an hour sales pitch on the stupid VIP card, which she did after we finished the deed. Whoever gave them this idea may be beaten.
I told her when she comes to my hotel after work I would buy the VIP card, after she had promised as a VIP client she may come. Well I have her number, I did not call her in the evening as I was prebooked buy my Sacrosa lovely at her home, sweet memories from long ago.
But she actually called me these days and asked whether I was in Shanghai, well I was not, but will report how it continues, but would be dammned careful there. They are certainly commercial oriented
You can pay with UnionPay card and get a receipt, from my Chinese it can not be traced back to the venue, so those on expenses, maybe an incentive but no guarantee.
Overall high class on location, massage and girls, but it is close to a scam, I paid in the end for 2 hours 400 RMB and a 100RMB tip for full naked access and that is too close to the Sacrosa afternoon, so no repeat unless I get her in my hotel for a reasonable overnight stay.
Anybody similar experiences there?[/QUOTE]
I have some questions about Club 999. As I do not speak any chinese, its kind of hard to figure out or asking by myself :)
1. How long time do you actually have with the girl once to step into the "private" massage-room? 60 minutes?
2. Are you allowed to cum how many times you want within this timeframe?
3. Is the "Red Rope" always included or do you have to ask for it? How do you say it in chinese? I am afraid the girl will not understand "Red Rope".
4. What is allowed and what is not allowed? Kissing? Analsex? Fingering? Licking her? etc.
5. I read something about "toe-fucking". Is that always included? If not, how do I ask for it in chinese?
6. Is it allowed to finish off without a condom in her mouth? Or spray it on her body?
If some of this questions seems silly, I apologize. But it is hard to ask when I don't speak chinese, and I really don't like being turned down if I try to make gestures or something. I rather want to know beforehand what the "rules" are.
I am sure there are others that wants to know some of these things. If you only know answers to some of the questions, please answer anyways. Maby together we can solve all the mysteries :)
Thanx in advance :)
Good afternoon,
I paid a visit to the Sauna on Huai Hai Lu, in front of Times Square Puxi (very close to People's Square, for those of you less familiar with Shanghai).
From the Main Times Square Entrance, look across Huai Hai Lu: There’s a building with red letters announcing a KTV (4th Floor, I think) and a Sauna on 9F.
Panoramic elevator takes you straight to 9F, which is entirely occupied by this sauna. Place is nicely appointed, I’d rate it similar to Sacrosa. Resting room and jacuzzis overlooks People’s Square, which is kind of nice.
Usual Sauna routine: Shower, Pyjamas, a short rest and off you go to the massage area. I was offered no line up yesterday, just escorted to a mid-sized room with a massage table, where a lady (no 17) was waiting for me.
Lady was 7/10 with VERY nice (natural) boobs, best I’ve seen in China. She performed a very good massage, first over a towel, then with oil. Hard on the right places and softer when needed.
No. 17was in T-shirt and mini skirt during massage. Mini skirt pulled up, almost as a belt during all session, which was kind of nice, as I had access to her legs and derriere. G string.
Towels and stuff were very clean also, smelled clean, were rather new (towel cleanliness is skimpy in my opinion in most saunas……)
When oil massage finished, she went on to take care of my little bro. She raised her t-shirt, I undid her bra and I had a very enjoyable HJ followed by covered BJ.
BJ was performed not with a condom on, but with a kind of thin small plastic bag on (like those you use to put an apple in). I thought it was going to be odd, but wow….. it was as close to the bareback thing as I’ve ever had. It was fantastic. Her BJ technique was GREAT as well, nothing of the mechanical kind of thing you most often get. A real pro.
During the BJ she was lying on the massage table, nude, and I had full access to everything. She vehemently refused my attempts at entering her. This is NOT a FS place, as mentioned elsewhere in the Forum.
Damage was substantial at 989 RMB, but I cannot really complain, as the massage was great and the extras as well. no mention of tip, which is a blessing, as I’m tired of these ladies negotiating tips when you’re almost there and cannot really think with your upper brain.
I’d definitely go back if it was for that type of quality I got yesterday. It’s handy as well, at least for me, as many of the places mentioned here are not in the city centre, but rather far from it (Sacrosa, Peacock, etc).
I could not assess the average staff quality, as it was my first time and I went straight to No 17. Pricey if quality was lower, but standards seem pretty high.
I’ll go back when I’m in the area and I have some money to burn.
[QUOTE=Buzzy]I have some questions about Club 999. As I do not speak any chinese, its kind of hard to figure out or asking by myself :)
1. How long time do you actually have with the girl once to step into the "private" massage-room? 60 minutes?
2. Are you allowed to cum how many times you want within this time frame?
3. Is the "Red Rope" always included or do you have to ask for it? How do you say it in Chinese? I am afraid the girl will not understand "Red Rope".
4. What is allowed and what is not allowed? Kissing? Anal sex? Fingering? Licking her? etc.
5. I read something about "toe-fucking". Is that always included? If not, how do I ask for it in Chinese?
6. Is it allowed to finish off without a condom in her mouth? Or spray it on her body?
[/QUOTE]
1. I think it is 70 minutes. Honestly, I've never watched. There are too many other goodies to pay attention to.
2. Yes. But, best skip the soapy to have enough time. Just shake your head no when you first get in and go to town. It's hard to get off during the soapy part, but bunches of fun.
3. No. Get a small girl. As you can imagine taller, thicker types would have difficulty with it. Think gymnast. You should have your pick of 10-20 girls depending on the time, so go small if you want red rope.
4. This is up to the girl really. Greek is rare in China. But you can always give it a try, by playing around there and see how she responds. Kissing is girl dependent to. RTFF for numbers of kissing ones, if that's what you want. Fingering and licking are all good if that's what you like. I recall one anal one a while back, but I doubt she is still around.
5. That's part of the Sacrosa script. Never had it at 999. Wouldn't know how to ask.
6. Yes and yes.
Went to 999 tonight for some fun at about 20:30 and it was packed. Still, they had a nice rotation of girls. I didn't count, but it seemed that they had around 15.
I chose 850. She's a 19 y/o from Anhui, so not that far from Shanghai (next province over). She was less than 5 feet tall. I'm not a tall guy by western standards, but sitting on the chair in the soapy room I was at eye level with her. She was very cute, but definitely not the innocent type. I didn't get the eager eyes from her. I figured out why later.
I'll just start with I don't recommend her.
She was my first bad apple at 999. I must admit I was looking for a petite one. For her size she was a 8 on the looks meter. Not perfect, but certainly cute and she knew it. She was a bit of a diva.
Soapy seemed rushed and she didn't handle the transitions between activities as well as some. Maybe she's new. I guess at 19, she must be. After soapy we went to the dry part.
It was up on the 3rd floor in the over-flow section. No apparatus for red rope. On the way up passed several guys. I kept thinking I'd bump in to my GM. They all looked like Chinese executive types. I think they have a mold somewhere.
She knew her part and was into the costume thing. She dressed up in a office girl outfit during the BBBJ. She was a pro at that. Then off with the outfit and some good ol' fashioned mish.
After the pop, we shared a cig (she provided). I think that's what she was rushing for. Nicotine. We talked a little in what little Chinese I speak.
The rundown:
Overall: 6
Body: 8
Tits: 8 - small but proportional
BBBJ: 9
GFE: 5
DFK: Didn't try
Cost: 780 RMB after 8 pm
I've been there in the afternoon on weekends and before 6pm. I think the service is more relaxed. I recommend looking for willing eyes. So far I'm 2 for 3 at 999. This was my first dud. I think I'd also stick to girls that look a bit older (22-25). Experience counts. With some hunting, I think I could have found her at a BBS for 300 RMB.
[QUOTE=Loveasiangirls]Try the personals here: [url]http://shanghai.asiaxpat.com/login.asp[/url]
I used it when I first traveled to Shanghai. I placed an ad with a phot figuring nobody knows me there any ways. If you are not bad looking you'll get a lot of responses.
Also [url]www.chinesefriendfinder.com[/url]
[url]www.plentyoffish.com[/url] is not bad also[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tip - are the sites really free as they advertise?
[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso]Intercontinental, Purple Mountain[/QUOTE]Thanks Fernando, I booked a room at Purple Mountain.
For anyone who wants Sacrosa's business card & address, download from here.
[QUOTE=Vista Sushi]Went to 999 tonight for some fun at about 20:30 and it was packed. Still, they had a nice rotation of girls. I didn't count, but it seemed that they had around 15.
She knew her part and was into the costume thing. She dressed up in a office girl outfit during the BBBJ. She was a pro at that. Then off with the outfit and some good ol' fashioned mish.[/QUOTE]Hi Vista:
Is the costume part of the regular routine at 999?
Do you know what other outfits they use?
I have heard of costumes at a place on Wuzhong.
CAL
[QUOTE=JoyofSex]Thanks for the tip - are the sites really free as they advertise?[/QUOTE]
POF definitely is. CFF has different options,. You can get the lowest cost package. Make sure you do not get automatic renewal.
I have found POF to be quite good. I never contact anybody. I just wait for the girls to e-mail me.
[QUOTE=California8]Hi Vista:
Is the costume part of the regular routine at 999?
Do you know what other outfits they use?
I have heard of costumes at a place on Wuzhong.
CAL[/QUOTE]
The costume is not usually part of the routine. I think it may have just been her (850's) routine, which was different than the normal script. She pulled out a couple of options. I think one was a nurse. I went with office girl.
[QUOTE=Rex69]For anyone who wants Sacrosa's business card & address, download from here.[/QUOTE]When I was in Sacrosa in early May - they gave me a discount voucher for a new sister location.
I heard it was much better but i lost the voucher and do not have address details - anybody have a business card?
Does anyone know where I can get Cialis?
[QUOTE=Vista Sushi]The costume is not usually part of the routine. I think it may have just been her (850's) routine, which was different than the normal script. She pulled out a couple of options. I think one was a nurse. I went with office girl.[/QUOTE]Vista,
Now I will have to learn the word for costume in putonghua to convey my wishes when I go to 999.
Thanks for the info.
CAL
[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]When I was in Sacrosa in early May - they gave me a discount voucher for a new sister location.
I heard it was much better but i lost the voucher and do not have address details - anybody have a business card?[/QUOTE]Search under Heping. You not need the voucher, before 6 it is 600. Location is super, girls are too mechanical and not GFE IMHO
FA
[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]When I was in Sacrosa in early May - they gave me a discount voucher for a new sister location.
I heard it was much better but i lost the voucher and do not have address details - anybody have a business card?[/QUOTE]
Hey Billy,
Its on Siping Rd near Dalian Rd. Take the #4 metro and get off at Siping Rd. Its a short walk from there. I met a beautiful girl there and it was GFE all the way. As always YMMV.
PC out
[QUOTE=Don Juant]Does anyone know where I can get Cialis?[/QUOTE]
Yes.
Go to search function.
Type in "cialis".
Bob's your uncle.
Could you precise the directions?
Times Square is not on Huaihai Lu.
[QUOTE=Drainaps]Good afternoon,
I paid a visit to the Sauna on Huai Hai Lu, in front of Times Square Puxi (very close to People's Square, for those of you less familiar with Shanghai).
From the Main Times Square Entrance, look across Huai Hai Lu: There’s a building with red letters announcing a KTV (4th Floor, I think) and a Sauna on 9F.
Panoramic elevator takes you straight to 9F, which is entirely occupied by this sauna. Place is nicely appointed, I’d rate it similar to Sacrosa. Resting room and jacuzzis overlooks People’s Square, which is kind of nice.
Usual Sauna routine: Shower, Pyjamas, a short rest and off you go to the massage area. I was offered no line up yesterday, just escorted to a mid-sized room with a massage table, where a lady (no 17) was waiting for me.
Lady was 7/10 with VERY nice (natural) boobs, best I’ve seen in China. She performed a very good massage, first over a towel, then with oil. Hard on the right places and softer when needed.
No. 17was in T-shirt and mini skirt during massage. Mini skirt pulled up, almost as a belt during all session, which was kind of nice, as I had access to her legs and derriere. G string.
Towels and stuff were very clean also, smelled clean, were rather new (towel cleanliness is skimpy in my opinion in most saunas……)
When oil massage finished, she went on to take care of my little bro. She raised her t-shirt, I undid her bra and I had a very enjoyable HJ followed by covered BJ.
BJ was performed not with a condom on, but with a kind of thin small plastic bag on (like those you use to put an apple in). I thought it was going to be odd, but wow….. it was as close to the bareback thing as I’ve ever had. It was fantastic. Her BJ technique was GREAT as well, nothing of the mechanical kind of thing you most often get. A real pro.
During the BJ she was lying on the massage table, nude, and I had full access to everything. She vehemently refused my attempts at entering her. This is NOT a FS place, as mentioned elsewhere in the Forum.
Damage was substantial at 989 RMB, but I cannot really complain, as the massage was great and the extras as well. no mention of tip, which is a blessing, as I’m tired of these ladies negotiating tips when you’re almost there and cannot really think with your upper brain.
I’d definitely go back if it was for that type of quality I got yesterday. It’s handy as well, at least for me, as many of the places mentioned here are not in the city centre, but rather far from it (Sacrosa, Peacock, etc).
I could not assess the average staff quality, as it was my first time and I went straight to No 17. Pricey if quality was lower, but standards seem pretty high.
I’ll go back when I’m in the area and I have some money to burn.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Don Juant]Does anyone know where I can get Cialis?[/QUOTE]
If you want original CIALIS, VIAGRA or LEVITRA you can get it from any drug store in China. It is very easy to find, A single pill should be about 128 or 138RMB, 4 or 5 (depends on the brand) packs are mid 400RMB.
If you are more adventurous and depending on where you are, you may be able to find SEX shops in China including Shanghai.
I purchase some generic Viagra in Shenzhen this way, I get 4 tablets for 15 - 20RMB. I have tried several 'brands' of these tablets, the one I like in Shenzhen is called LI JIA LI (package of 4 BLUE VIAGRA SHAPED TABLETS). There is another LIJIALI in foil wrapped capsules but I have not tried this and it is from a different company. A fake of a fake?
I take half a tablet and a get a great effect.
I agree that some of the stuff you get in the shops is junk, some may actually be dangerous to you - you can afford the real stuff from the pharmacy you should get it, otherwise you can find useful pills in sex shops and even some grocery stores.
In other cities have found small (square) bottles of 10 tablets of 'Cialis'. The tablets in some cases have been BROWN or BLACK or Pale yellow. They are shaped like cialis tablets and they work fine. I have found these bottles of 'Cialis' tablets for between 60 and 80RMB for 10 tablets.
Look and you will find.
YF
Visited the 3 Moon Massage & Spa in JianGuo West Street last night.
The place looks slightly run down but is still better than most of the massage places. It seems to be frequented by the Japanese expat community.
RMB268 brings you 90 min of shower, hot-stone treatment, head massage and oil massage.
RMB200 surcharge brings you a nice HJ.
Service is nice, friendly and unrushed, the massage was good, but I cannot report anything really outstanding.
The ideal place for somebody who wants a good massage/spa with the option of HJ, if in the mood.
[QUOTE=Leche]Could you precise the directions?
Times Square is not on Huaihai Lu.[/QUOTE]
Actually it is... Times Square Mall is on Huai Hai Zhong Lu.
Take Metro line 1 to Shaanxi Nan Lu station, go out of exit 2, walk along Huai Hai Zhong lu for about 5 minutes. You'll pass a shopping center surrounded by construction (Hong Kong New World Shopping Center - on both sides of road and connected with an overpass), then on your right a small park decked out with World Expo themes (with a Porsche store in the park!) then after that, and again on your right, will be Times Square Shopping Center at 99 Huaihai Zhong Lu.
[url]http://www.exploreshanghai.com/metro/[/url] has an awesome interactive metro map, and when you look at specific station information, it gives you maps of the surrounding areas.
Do you remember what was the closest intersection by any chance? I live close by Jianguo Lu, but I never noticed 3 Moon Massage.
Thanks for the tip, will check it out.
WB
[QUOTE=Beijing Fox]Visited the 3 Moon Massage & Spa in JianGuo West Street last night.
The place looks slightly run down but is still better than most of the massage places. It seems to be frequented by the Japanese expat community.
RMB268 brings you 90 min of shower, hot-stone treatment, head massage and oil massage.
RMB200 surcharge brings you a nice HJ.
Service is nice, friendly and unrushed, the massage was good, but I cannot report anything really outstanding.
The ideal place for somebody who wants a good massage/spa with the option of HJ, if in the mood.[/QUOTE]
Spent a number of days and nights in Shanghai again had a great time.
Met another English speaking girl through a mamasan great english great to be with so you can have a conversation with her, hit some clubs with her and had a great time at night as well. Very sweet and GFE not a PSE.
Wizard
[QUOTE=Ira Johnson]Actually it is... Times Square Mall is on Huai Hai Zhong Lu.
Take Metro line 1 to Shaanxi Nan Lu station, go out of exit 2, walk along Huai Hai Zhong lu for about 5 minutes. You'll pass a shopping center surrounded by construction (Hong Kong New World Shopping Center - on both sides of road and connected with an overpass), then on your right a small park decked out with World Expo themes (with a Porsche store in the park!) then after that, and again on your right, will be Times Square Shopping Center at 99 Huaihai Zhong Lu.[/QUOTE]
Huang Pi Nan Lu metro, NOT Shaanxi Nan Lu. Times Square is on Huai Hai Rd close to the junction with Tibet Road and the sauna is opposite.
Leche,
No intention to flame you, but there's indeed a BIG Times Square Mall on Huai Hai Lu, next to People's Square. Time to get out of the drawer your Shanghai 101 books. In fact there's two Times Square Malls in SH, hence the precisions in my note.
For clarification purposes, it might be a good idea that you took your previous post out, not to confuse anybody around here. Sorry for my tone, but I'm tired of blunt wrong statements.
[QUOTE=Leche]Could you precise the directions?
Times Square is not on Huaihai Lu.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the informative post there, Wizard. I'm sure I can speak for many by saying we all learned quite a bit about mongering in Shanghai from your informative, detailed post :)
Was in Shanghai for a quick business trip and tried to find those BBS that I so fondly remember. However, as documented here, because of Expo 2010 many of these places have been raided and closed. But if you look hard enough they are still there.
Found a couple on Wan Hang Du Lu, both dingy and tiny and really uncomfortable in the recent heat wave in SH but the girls are pretty good and prices are traditional. One is close by the gas station on WHD Lu and they were even selling birds in the front. Three girls inside and chose the cutest, youngest of the lot. Girl took me upstairs and only took off her pants and pushed up her bra. Nice soft C cups despite her tiny size. We really got into it and she actually came all over me. 150 RMB is definately worth it.
The other is inside the gate near the intersection of Wan Hang Du lu and Wu Ding Lu. went there are 2 in the morning and found some cute and slightly chubby girls. 250 (can be negotiated to 200 if you really push) for nice non rushed fuck in a room next door, not upstairs.
Will be travelling to SH a lot in the next few months so finding these quick BBS with nice girls makes me feel good that I have choices when my fuck buddy doesnt want to go out.
[quote=fernandoalonso]building on an earlier post i had to try. the jury is still out, but wait a minute.
here is how it works. it is indeed a wonderful styled place and the girls are stunners, but as we are in an expatriate living quarter (i assume from the environment) there are pitfalls. 200rmb for an hour oil is steep, from 1, 5 hours the hj seems to be included. the rooms are classical and the girls playful. but the main objective is to buy time and to sell the stupid vip discount card (i forgot but something like 1000 rmb gives you a 10% discount etc.). nothing wrong with that, you also get a 40 rmb voucher for next time. the girl let me explore everything, one of my best hjs ever and she was a good masseuse. but i do not think i want to pay 100 rmb for half an hour sales pitch on the stupid vip card, which she did after we finished the deed. whoever gave them this idea may be beaten.
(snip)
overall high class on location, massage and girls, but it is close to a scam, i paid in the end for 2 hours 400 rmb and a 100rmb tip for full naked access and that is too close to the sacrosa afternoon, so no repeat unless i get her in my hotel for a reasonable overnight stay.
anybody similar experiences there?[/quote]
if you're referring to the place in the heart of jinqiao expat-ville, my experience is identical to yours. the place is nice, rooms clean and comfortable, staff friendly - but the selling is relentless! if i ask for 1 hour, the girl will be trying to talk me up to 90 minutes - if i start at 90 mins, she'll be continually telling me i need 2 hours. then she'll start pushing the vip card - if i say i already have one, she'll tell me i should add more money to it. they're all at it, so it's obviously part of the training. i've actually been rehearsing the speech to telll them next time (when i use up the last on the card), exactly why i won't be coming back - i go there to relax, if i wanted endless sales pitch i'd be at the fabric market! pity, because it's good in other ways - but there's too much local competition to put up with the sales stuff.
[quote=ringer5]if you're referring to the place in the heart of jinqiao expat-ville, my experience is identical to yours. the place is nice, rooms clean and comfortable, staff friendly - but the selling is relentless! if i ask for 1 hour, the girl will be trying to talk me up to 90 minutes - if i start at 90 mins, she'll be continually telling me i need 2 hours. then she'll start pushing the vip card - if i say i already have one, she'll tell me i should add more money to it. they're all at it, so it's obviously part of the training. i've actually been rehearsing the speech to telll them next time (when i use up the last on the card), exactly why i won't be coming back - i go there to relax, if i wanted endless sales pitch i'd be at the fabric market! pity, because it's good in other ways - but there's too much local competition to put up with the sales stuff.[/quote]
which place is this, exactly? i don't mind the cost and would be happy to give it a try and also to speak with the manager about their sales tactics. i've had success with that before.
also, out of curiosity, was all that up-selling in chinese? if so one could always pretend he didn't speak chinese to avoid that. just a thought.
Bonzo1 et all,
My Spa Sauna is in Pudong Jinqiao, on Ming Yue Rd., West of Bai Hua Rd. Next to a DVD shop. Less than 2' Taxi from Carrefour Jinqiao. Just around the corner from My Spa (left on exiting My Spa, then left again on the intersection, walk 200m, no need to cross any roads), there's a pharmacy that sells real Viagra and Levitra.
[QUOTE=Bonzo1]Which place is this, exactly? I don't mind the cost and would be happy to give it a try and also to speak with the manager about their sales tactics. I've had success with that before.
Also, out of curiosity, was all that up-selling in Chinese? If so one could always pretend he didn't speak Chinese to avoid that. Just a thought.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Drainaps]Bonzo1 et all,
there's a pharmacy that sells real Viagra and Levitra.[/QUOTE]
Sells Cialis also and all three at a 10% or so mark up from most other places but if you live and work in that area it is convenient. Blister pack of 5 Viagra was RMB535 if I remember correctly.
I have seen "The Spa" when I lived in Jinqiao but never went in since I did not so P4P but the girls beckoning from inside looked pretty nice. Some 7's, 8's and 9's it seems.
ES
WOW! It looks like Expo 2010 crack downs are really putting a damper on the fun there.
I've spent several hours over the last couple of days reading back 10 pages, yes I actually do RTFF, and making 12 pages of notes but I guess I should wait until my visit is closer, I'll be there in September.
Shanghai is actually just my starting point for my trip this fall, 4 months total. I will be traveling south, by bus and train, making my way down to Nanning and then to Hanoi.
For now anyways, I'm better off studying about other cities along the way. I'm traveling alone with no real schedule so if you've got any suggestions where to stop please let me know.
You guys are great! Keep up the good work!
Maybe I'll see you in Shanghai!
Mike
I've seen a few massage places with 1+1 advertised around Shanghai. Does anyone know what this is about? FS? or just a HE?
Joyofsex, thank you for writing up this report!
I'm a long time lurker here at the ISG and I've tried some HE places in Shanghai, as well as a couple of BBSes. Tonight I decided to splurge and try my first soapy as well, and I chose Golden 18 because it's downtown and because of your (deservedly) glowing report.
I went around 1am so the lineup was only 6 girls, but one of them had a huge friendly smile and I went with her. She was tiny, about five two and 100 pounds. Chatted with her a bit when we got to the room and I find out to my pleasant surprise that it was her first day here, and that she was previously a KTV girl, so pretty new to FS overall.
She was so new that she was actually about 10 minutes into the soapy part before she laughed and told me she forgot to tell the front desk that we had started.
It was my first soapy, so I don't really have any other points of reference, but IMO she did a great and enthusiastic job sliding around on top of me. Very unusual experience, but she was so pretty that I kept asking her "when can I turn around so I can see you? "
Again, I'm pretty new at mongering, but I would say her face was a solid 8. Small but very nice and soft breasts, flawless white skin, beautiful big eyes, nice long hair, and a GREAT personality. Kept laughing and chatting with me (I think my mandarin helped though, I doubt she speaks much English).
During the soapy she asked if I wanted a cover for her BJ and I said sure. Up to you. She grabs my xiaodidi and inspects it a little closer, then laughs and says no need, and goes ahead with a BBBJ. Very enthusiastic but not very skillful, although she did go deepthroat a couple times.
We towel off, head to the bed. She starts with me on my back and gives licks me all over, which is surprisingly erotic, then flips me over and gives me another deepthroat BBBJ.
After a few minutes, she asks if we should start with the main course. I said sure, and I start kissing her breasts to get her in the mood (which I'd been dying to do the whole time), and she starts getting shy on me! She kind of covers her breasts with her arms, and I asked her playfully "what? You're shy all of a sudden? She laughs and relaxes a little bit, her shyness and giggles are incredibly cute and a huge turn on for me.
After a while she warms up a bit and I play with her clit while sucking on her beautiful tits. Soon I couldn't wait any longer and slip on the rubber and start going missionary.
She was very into it and made a lot of noise. I think there was a little bit of pretending going on, but she got very wet very fast, so I'm not so sure.
Anyway, I went there hoping for a long sessions with a couple of positions and maybe two shots, but she was so gorgeous I shot my load after only a couple minutes. She was game for round two, and gave a really nice GFE afterwards, chatting and offering more massage, but I was suddenly really sleepy (you know how it is) so I told her I'd leave a little early and let her rest up, since she told me she attended training for hours and hours earlier that day and she was looking forward to her bed.
Awesome experience overall, even though the damage was pretty steep (900 including the "VIP card"). I am so tempted to keep her my own secret for a few weeks before I let you all know her number, but I figure that's pretty bad form for my first post. She's number 91. Will definitely come back and look for her, and also looking forward to seeing more of the lineup when it's not so late.
If any of you try 91, please give some feedback. I want to see if my standards is in line with everyone, or if I'm too generous with the praise since I'm new. And of course please be nice to her, she's a great girl, and very genuine unlike a lot of WGs that I've met who are so obviously disgusted by their jobs.
Mong Bean
[QUOTE=JoyofSex]After B2 was closed and I could not find directions to Zhongtan, I followed the directions to "JJs" or should I say "Golden 18 Club"? Maybe we are talking about two different places, but that was the one I found in that building (Wullumuqi Bei Lu 209, 5th floor). Super-easy to find.
The place was great! The rooms all are in different styles, have a large shower to do the soapie or even Jakuzzi. All nicely decorated and clean, much better than Sacrosa or even SH hotel sauna in my opinion. Staff are very friendly.
The lineup in the afternoon (4pm) was about 10 girls, all from 6 upwards up to 9s. I gave the one with the largest grin a try, though she was "only" 8. Number 61, name Ling. Best choice ever.
During our first session that day when she showered me the door openend and a second girl came in. Although I have bad experience with two girls in China, I agreed for her to stay. They both cleaned me in the shower but I was only giving 61 attention, touched and kissed her gently until she finally opened up and we started deep kissing. The second one suddenly left and was never seen again. Not to worry: 61 did the soapy which I found rather silly but the way she did it made it still enjoyable. I was worried though that almost 50mins were gone, so I urged to move on to the bed and I made her hot by kissing her cute budy and then doing DATY. She screamed for enjoyment. We basically did it three times andd each time it was truly great. Total cost 790 for two (! ) hours with no rush and almost real GFE.
No wonder I went back there the next two evenings, each time around 11pm. Again good lineup but I selected 61 eveytime. Each time multiple positions, lots of kissing, playing in the Jakuzzi. You name it. A real Chinese GF. Only problem was her very limited english, so I did not care to take her phone number (how should I arrange anything?)
Hope the place survives the crackdowns until my next visit![/QUOTE]
Whats the earliest or latest that one has been at any of these saunas?
I was wondering whats the earliest or latest that one has been to the saunas, 999 or otherwise.
[QUOTE=Mong Bean]Joyofsex, thank you for writing up this report!
I'm a long time lurker here at the ISG and I've tried some HE places in Shanghai, as well as a couple of BBSes. Tonight I decided to splurge and try my first soapy as well, and I chose Golden 18 because it's downtown and because of your (deservedly) glowing report.
I went around 1am so the lineup was only 6 girls, but one of them had a huge friendly smile and I went with her. She was tiny, about five two and 100 pounds. Chatted with her a bit when we got to the room and I find out to my pleasant surprise that it was her first day here, and that she was previously a KTV girl, so pretty new to FS overall.
She was so new that she was actually about 10 minutes into the soapy part before she laughed and told me she forgot to tell the front desk that we had started.
It was my first soapy, so I don't really have any other points of reference, but IMO she did a great and enthusiastic job sliding around on top of me. Very unusual experience, but she was so pretty that I kept asking her "when can I turn around so I can see you? "
Again, I'm pretty new at mongering, but I would say her face was a solid 8. Small but very nice and soft breasts, flawless white skin, beautiful big eyes, nice long hair, and a GREAT personality. Kept laughing and chatting with me (I think my mandarin helped though, I doubt she speaks much English).
During the soapy she asked if I wanted a cover for her BJ and I said sure. Up to you. She grabs my xiaodidi and inspects it a little closer, then laughs and says no need, and goes ahead with a BBBJ. Very enthusiastic but not very skillful, although she did go deepthroat a couple times.
We towel off, head to the bed. She starts with me on my back and gives licks me all over, which is surprisingly erotic, then flips me over and gives me another deepthroat BBBJ.
After a few minutes, she asks if we should start with the main course. I said sure, and I start kissing her breasts to get her in the mood (which I'd been dying to do the whole time), and she starts getting shy on me! She kind of covers her breasts with her arms, and I asked her playfully "what? You're shy all of a sudden? She laughs and relaxes a little bit, her shyness and giggles are incredibly cute and a huge turn on for me.
After a while she warms up a bit and I play with her clit while sucking on her beautiful tits. Soon I couldn't wait any longer and slip on the rubber and start going missionary.
She was very into it and made a lot of noise. I think there was a little bit of pretending going on, but she got very wet very fast, so I'm not so sure.
Anyway, I went there hoping for a long sessions with a couple of positions and maybe two shots, but she was so gorgeous I shot my load after only a couple minutes. She was game for round two, and gave a really nice GFE afterwards, chatting and offering more massage, but I was suddenly really sleepy (you know how it is) so I told her I'd leave a little early and let her rest up, since she told me she attended training for hours and hours earlier that day and she was looking forward to her bed.
Awesome experience overall, even though the damage was pretty steep (900 including the "VIP card"). I am so tempted to keep her my own secret for a few weeks before I let you all know her number, but I figure that's pretty bad form for my first post. She's number 91. Will definitely come back and look for her, and also looking forward to seeing more of the lineup when it's not so late.
If any of you try 91, please give some feedback. I want to see if my standards is in line with everyone, or if I'm too generous with the praise since I'm new. And of course please be nice to her, she's a great girl, and very genuine unlike a lot of WGs that I've met who are so obviously disgusted by their jobs.
Mong Bean[/QUOTE]Mong bean,
Welcome here and thanks for the great first report! Enjoy and please post more!
FA
Mong Bean, glat my report helped... remember when I was first in SH and thankful for any detailed info to do the first steps! Also great report on your part - thanks! It is good the place is still open and hopefully I can go there next week when I am back in town.
[QUOTE=Don Juant]I was wondering whats the earliest or latest that one has been to the saunas, 999 or otherwise.[/QUOTE]they open between 12am an 2 PM and close between 2am and 3am, some later. If you call before service hours may be extended, in general girls are required to keep their mobil phones switched on for such cases.
FA
Does anyone know where I can find a sauna with a sex chair like this in Shanghai?
Thanks!
Hi all,
A couple weeks ago there was a lot of talk about things being closed down in SH.
I am about ready to come back for a couple weks and just wondering what is happeing.
Things back to normal or still lots of pressure from LE?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Bonzo1]Which place is this, exactly? I don't mind the cost and would be happy to give it a try and also to speak with the manager about their sales tactics. I've had success with that before.
Also, out of curiosity, was all that up-selling in Chinese? If so one could always pretend he didn't speak Chinese to avoid that. Just a thought.[/QUOTE]
Yes, it's the place near the corner of Ming Yue and Baihua. I went back to use up the remainder on my card last week, was hit with the usual relentless upselling - every few minutes for a solid hour. I had to show the contents of my pockets to convince the girl that I had no way to put more money on the card! Massage was ok, but I will not be going back. The conversation was all in Chinese, but language would not be a defence - they have printed cards to get the point across! Never again....
[QUOTE=Doitunderwater]Hi all,
A couple weeks ago there was a lot of talk about things being closed down in SH.
I am about ready to come back for a couple weks and just wondering what is happeing.
Things back to normal or still lots of pressure from LE?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
I can't report on sauna because I am a rare user, they are pricey as fuck in Shanghai and I can think of better ways to spend 800 kuai.
On the BBS side, I have been recently frequenting a few that have been commented about on the board in recent months. Not going to repeat info on there because it is an easy find for any serious user.
I have noticed all the old BBS haunts, such as Jing An's previous red light district are fully closed down. The village is also long gone. Happy town, I am not too sure, but from my experiences recently, the nothern outskirts seem to still hold some pockets of action.
I was recently locked in a BBS and told the LE were outside. The laoban was outside the door and hung a bike lock over the door handles. After 15 mins the girls called him and he said it was safe to leave.
So really, not for the feint of heart. Better and safer if you speak some Chinese or are pretty experienced with China mongering.
If you are only looking to monger, I would suggest safer waters such as Shenzhen or Guangzhou. If you are in Shanghai on biz, there is always Manhatten on TRL, which is full of girls and seems generally to be left alone by the LE. Watch out for ladyboys though and it can be a bit of a sausage fest in there.
Have fun and be safe gents!
Thanks for the update Blacklisted. Hopefully I will have some good reports when I get back.
[QUOTE=Blacklisted]I can't report on sauna because I am a rare user, they are pricey as fuck in Shanghai and I can think of better ways to spend 800 kuai.
On the BBS side, I have been recently frequenting a few that have been commented about on the board in recent months. Not going to repeat info on there because it is an easy find for any serious user.
I have noticed all the old BBS haunts, such as Jing An's previous red light district are fully closed down. The village is also long gone. Happy town, I am not too sure, but from my experiences recently, the nothern outskirts seem to still hold some pockets of action.
I was recently locked in a BBS and told the LE were outside. The laoban was outside the door and hung a bike lock over the door handles. After 15 mins the girls called him and he said it was safe to leave.
So really, not for the feint of heart. Better and safer if you speak some Chinese or are pretty experienced with China mongering.
If you are only looking to monger, I would suggest safer waters such as Shenzhen or Guangzhou. If you are in Shanghai on biz, there is always Manhatten on TRL, which is full of girls and seems generally to be left alone by the LE. Watch out for ladyboys though and it can be a bit of a sausage fest in there.
Have fun and be safe gents![/QUOTE]
Did the rounds in Pudong ( Eshan, Pudian, Laoshan, Weifang) past few days, surprised to see almost everything back to normal, Eshan Lu busier than I've ever seen it, the two blue ribbon light windows set back from road fully illuminated and full of ladies. Laoshan Lu in full swing, Weifang Lu, visited the new Spa just to right of Tequila, standard fare, nice HJ, drop dead gorgeous lady. Only the really seedy windows seem to have vanished. Most BBS in full swing throughout the area.
ID
Was in SH a few weeks ago. First time just one night, then back for two days two weeks later. Met my Filipino girl on the first night. Arranged my trip to see her, as she was going back home for a few months. Once again, a great night with her.
Was with another friend, first time to China. He was a bit jet lagged, so went back to the hotel with us. But alone to his room.
When we came back, we visited the sauna on Wulumuqi. (5th floor place). They have remodeled, as I mentioned in a post the last time I was there. The rooms are nice with round beds. We both had a good choice of girls. I ended up going two rounds with my girl, one time on the soapy matress. And second in the bed. This was the second time I did it on the soapy matress, and enjoyed it as much as the first time. And the girl appeared to also.
My buddy got the short end. He said he got a nice BJ and came in the girls mouth. Then she gave him a half ass masssage. She pointed to him and asked if he was ok? And him not knowing. Said yes. So she did not do full service.
Next day to the other sauna near the next age mall down the basement. Again a fair line up. But I lucked out. Found a girl that spoke decent english, enough to carry on a good conversation. Sweet girl, nice body. And good service. She told me she like Americans, as she likes big. Ha ha. She was a very petite girl, and I was trying to be a little gentle with her. But she did indeed enjoy big, and she grabbed hold of my ass and was ramming me as hard as I could. She was saying at one time, don't cum yet, keep f*%king me. Then she came, and slightly after I did. We layed there, and she got a few second climaxes, just laying there.
Said she was really horny, as she just came back after 10 days off. For her menstration. (had to look that word up on her phone). I asked her how many customers she see a day. And she said normally at least 2, but 3.4. Some days. I asked her how much she makes, and she said they pay her every 10 days and she makes normally about 6000 RMB. It depends on how many customers. But normally about that much. I told her that was very good, and she said, but I only work 20 days, then 10 days off, so only get 12000 a month. I said to her, that is still ok, and she smiled, "yes I know, I only want to do this for awhile and make alot of money, then do something else". She said there are some girls that work all day and get no customers, so they make no money at all.
Ended up over at Malones to relax for the rest of the night, (last night). Stayed until 2am, . Then stopped in Manhattan. Many nice Filipinos and a few Russians. One with a nice boob job was up dancing. And many Chinese girls were oogling her. My buddy really liked her, and they made eye contact. Then something I never say in China, she pulled her blouse back and showed her tits. Danced about 20 seconds like that with many looking at her, but keeping eye contact with my buddy. After she tucked them back in, she came over and asked for money! I shook my head no, and she complained. Pointed to her tits and our faces. I laughed and told her they are nice, but we did not ask her to do that. She turned and walked away. Back to the dance stage.
Had an interesting time on our weekend in Beijing, but will post that in the other forum.
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Info from recent International arrivees please.
Did the Chinese health authorities enter your plane on arrival and check temperatures of ALL passengers on board prior to letting you de-plane?
[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]Info from recent International arrivees please.
Did the Chinese health authorities enter your plane on arrival and check temperatures of ALL passengers on board prior to letting you de-plane?[/QUOTE]
Yes, this is the standard procedure, now. I am afraid this will be the routine now for a while.
Levitian
[QUOTE=Levitian]Yes, this is the standard procedure, now. I am afraid this will be the routine now for a while.
Levitian[/QUOTE]
Thanks mate - check the BJ thread for what happened to a guy who arrived recently
Arrived in Shanghai a week ago - we were told to stay in our seats, and 2 teams of people in full biohazard suits entered the plane and took everyone's temperature. First pass is some device that puts 4 red dots on your head. If that one is suspicious, round two is with a standard electronic oral thermometer. They put on disposable covers, but I'll but they re-stack them later for reuse...
It is a rather scary process - who knows what the guy 2 rows and on the opposite side of the plane has going on. It looks like a rote and unthinking response. Swinging in the opposite direction of the SARS response is also not a good solution.
I wonder what they are going to do once the real flu season starts... already had some colleagues decide NOT to come to China for a trade show, because they were worried about the quarantine. Great - just when they need more travellers here, the new policy scares people away.
Let's hope this passes soon.
Phenyl
[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]Thanks mate - check the BJ thread for what happened to a guy who arrived recently[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Levitian]Yes, this is the standard procedure, now. I am afraid this will be the routine now for a while.
Levitian[/QUOTE]
A few years ago we "accused" China to contaminate the world with the bird flu.
Now THEY do not want to be contaminated with the "western" swine flu.
What goes around comes around.
[QUOTE=Bionicman]A few years ago we "accused" China to contaminate the world with the bird flu.
Now THEY do not want to be contaminated with the "western" swine flu.
What goes around comes around.[/QUOTE]Oh yes - and lets not forget the Chnese 'únderstatement' of SARS infections.
Billy suspects that if the Chinese authorities actually stated 'accurately' their number of H1N1 infections we might all be surprised?
Nah................we wouldn't would we.
Hi bro
How is the situation in Sauna?
Jiyuan 3 is still in operation? Planning to visit them
Last went to 999, as usual of the process from entering till selection. Wide range of fishes. Saw my last selection in Apr but did not pick her as there is other nice guppies ard too.
Anyway, pick a pleasant looking one with little make-up.(forgotten the no because I kept staring at her face.)This give her a natural looking beauty which I like and also, she give a smile in my direction. Because now I still puzzle whether if they can see clearer thru the cust position. Lucky there is no crowd at 3-4pm on sun.
Session with her is nice and accommodating. Chatty as well. Offer 2 jobs with less time in the soapy. And of because I agreed. Tho I am not sure I am up to it as I usual pump every out in 1. Thus making me weak on the 2nd. However I give a try. More training. Hahah
As usual, was serve with BBBJ and missionary position. So on. Its the feeling at the moment was great even the process is routine. Done for the 1st. Request the 2nd to end in the mouth and agreed with her.
2nd rd was tiring for her. But still not able to give a good mass out from the blow.
Great time.
Just curious whether anyone has had any luck with HJ's (or anything else) in any of those places.
I can only comment as to the massages, and can say I frequent several of those places (not sure the names, but they are the major ones on the street) and IMHO they offer very good value for the price.
Any insights much appreciated.
-B-
OK, I was certain I could find a way to make this into a little gold mine, or at least pay some small dividends. I was sorely mistaken.
Over the past couple months I've tried out about 10 numbers from CG. I intentionally went for the ones that I thought were most likely to have real pictures (i.e. not those obvious fake ones, ad said "100% really photo", etc.), or in a few cases I just abandoned the idea that the girl would be the one in the photo and went for quality massage, service, etc.
Here are the results:
Number of photos that were real: ZERO
Number of girls that said their photos were really, really, really real, even after questioning on phone: ALL OF THEM
Number of girls that up-sold: ALL OF THEM
Average price quoted on CG: 200 to 300 RMB
Average starting asking price: 2000 (some even quoted prices for "happy" or "happy ending" online at 500 but immediately went up to 1500-2000 once in bed)
Average landing price: 1000 to 1500, and two girls left with nothing when I tried to bargain to 800
Average quality of massage (1 to 10): 1 (only because I didn't include zero as an option here)
Average quality of sex (1 to 10): 5 or 6...a few did ok, none rocked my world.
Average looks for the girls: Surprisingly not bad in this category, but not nearly as good as the pictures, even the "natural looking" pictures
Average punctuality: 30 min to 1 hour later than promised, and unbelievably three NO SHOWS (they messaged hours later saying they had been busy and could they come immediately now, but I never replied).
There seem to be a few adds on there for no up-selling (500, 700, and 800 prices listed right on the subject lines), which are the three I didn't try since there's no way those photos are real. I should have though. Maybe I will sometime, but I'm so burned out on CG that I've had it for the time being. Anyone who has feel free to inform us.
Conclusion - Avoid CG like the plague and leave it to the business travelers who don't know any better or don't care.
Happy hunting.
-B-
Arrived this morning for the second stay in SH. I have read through the forum these past few week and documented all your suggestions/remarks in a 40 page word document including maps.
Fist I contacted a lady I met through POF (plentyoffish). But she only wanted meet me at my hotel if I send her my picture (which she already had) and my birthday. As I do not exchange personal info with people I have not met I asked her why. No answer sofar. Anyone an idea. I did not trust it so will forget about her.
As I stay in Pudong my first stop was Sacrosa. Had to wait 25 minutes There were 4 girls in the line up. I choose 151 the tallest one. She went straight to business. First CBJ and DATY, then intercourse. She could not wait for round two , this time BBBJ. That was within 30 minutes. Then she wanted a third round that I barely managed.
Good experience for 550 RMB.
Walked around the area afterwards but could not see many BBS's. There are massage parlours but you never know what is possible until you tried one. maybe next time. I wil be here three weeks so will keep you posted, at least when I manage to access the forum.
Greetings fro SH.
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I think I took one for the team on this one:
Stayed here for 1 night. Went to the desk at 1st floor and looked into the menu. It looked all quite legit and took a swedish massage for 480.
10 min later a girl came into my room. looks 6/7. she gave a decent massage and started touching the nice parts a bit. then she said she could call her sister for 2000 HJ!! I told her to stop talking and that i know Shanghai prices and not an unknowing in-transit passenger.
Then she said that she could bring the most beautiful girl for FS for 1000 RMB. Normally I pay max 700 for spa, so i thought, lets try, who knows. She called her and in 5 min a lady, looks 7, came in. The first girls left and I paid her in total 1480 RMB (!). The 2nd lady came onto me and gave decent foreplay, BJ, FS, but nothing to write home about.
Conclusion (as expected): over priced, not service like we have in spas, but if you are in high need this is the only place where you can unload at pudong airport.
Advise: just take a cheap foot massage for 50 RMB in your room and you will probably get the same service offered (the other girl for MAX 1000).
[QUOTE=Applecrate]Of Interest:In the lobby of the Motel168 Dazhong Merryling Pudong Airport Hotel (PVG) Can't miss it. It's outside between Terminal 1 and Terminal 2. You can access it through the underground walkways.
Inside the door-- imediately to the right as you enter the lobby - is a "Massage / Spa". I went to check pricing two months ago while waiting on a flight to arrive.
To be sure, I've did not have time give it a try.
But here are a few things I remember.
- The girl at the counter spoke pretty good English and walked me through the offerings. She seemed to 'hint' that the service was quite good.
- I always look at pricing, as many places with a 600-800 RMB price tag tend to offer full service. Seems like their highest priced item was in the 800 RMB range.
- There were two girls in uniform who kept entering and exiting the desk area. Both were in the 6-7 range in looks, but I would not kick them out of bed for eating crackers.
- This is a Motel 168 after all, so it's possible full service is on the menu.
Three possibilities for this place.
1. It's an overpriced massage joint at the airport that, well, gives expensive massage.
2. It's an overpriced HJ joint located at the airport where you might be able to talk the girl into full service.
3. It's a full service joint at Motel 168 airport where you'll get slam fucked by a rough-and-tumble airport horizontal bop artist, and, well, still get hit with a 800 RMB price tag.
Who knows?
Again, I haven't had a chance to try it, so can make absolutely no promises.
But, it is an option at the airport.
If you give it a try -- and take one for the team -- good luck!
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As usual in 999: nice drill, 30 nice girls in fishbowl.
Took # 800, gorcious looking, nice body, but small tits
Very friendly and telling me all te time she wants big one in her pussy...
2 pops (of which 1 in mouth) and just a face to die for, one of the most prettiest I had so far. Could be repeated if not so many choices in 999.
Did anyone ever try escortschina dot com?
Girls look very good and the $70/yr membership could be good value.
Anyone?
[QUOTE=Bier 8]Did anyone ever try escortschina dot com?
Girls look very good and the $70/yr membership could be good value.
Anyone?[/QUOTE]
99%+ fake.
Had no.53. Not particularly pretty bur sexy body and hungry appetite. Good BJ with cim. Best cim experience ever. She'd BJ'd like she was a porn star looking back, checking mirrors. Gene simmons tongue. FS ok. Body turned out to be a little boney. Breasts petite but soft. Hairy puss. Meow
Given the recent crackdown with spas and saunas around Shanghai, I have changed my tactics when it comes to mongering. Since I speak Mandarin fairly well, I managed to hit it off with one of the girls working at one of the joints a couple of months back. She asked me whenever I plan to go to Shanghai I can just SMS her and tell her when I will be there and she would make herself available.
I did just that a couple of weeks ago as I had a 3 day business trip there. The daytime was filled with the usual meetings with clients and being in the office. But the 3 evenings I spent there was the most magical.
I arrived there last Sunday early afternoon, as soon as I landed in Pudong I called the girl and she went to my hotel to wait for me. When I got there an hour later, she was waiting at the lobby dressed in this killer mini one piece white dress with a nice pair of heels. As soon as she saw me she ran me to me and said "Bao Bei" which means "Honey" in Chinese. There was a couple of Americans checking in at the same time and you should have seen the looks on their face when they saw this cute little thing coming up to hug me and I was grabbing her ass at the same time!
Anyway, I won't go into details what happened during the next 3 evenings in my room as there were numerous BBBJCIM and doing it in many positions throughout the 3 nights. In between all the screwing and sleeping at night I took her out to nearby shopping mall to have dinner and also bought her some clothes. I didn't need to spend much on her as she was only after clothes in RMB100-200 range. So she bought this baggy white t-shirt tied with a pair of dungarees and it made her look like a little girl which turned me on even more! She wore this on my last evening when we went out to dinner and it was really funny as we enter the lift to go out, the lift opened and there were six Japanese guys standing inside joking around. As soon as they saw us entered with my arms around her they all went silent, it was priceless!
On my last day obviously I was sad to leave as she accompanied me to the airport and saw me off. I told her I will be back soon and as I was sitting on my seat flying home both my dick and my heart was missing her and already thinking about the next trip there...
Not once did she asked for money from me during the 3 days. But I did leave her a little something in her handbag and a note thanking her what a wonderful time I had.
So the moral of the story is... it is worth learning Mandarin!
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Saturday:
Went downtown to check out the Feng Ding Yuan Club sauna on 6F of the Feng Xiang Clothing market on Nanjing Xi Lu. Could not find the entrance which is supposedly in the street on the left when you are facing the building. Didn’t look long as I was getting tired of all those people asking you to come and buy their stuff. It’s really a pain to walk that street as a Caucasian.
Had a nice walk through People’s Park and decided to check out the Jingan region e.g. Shanxi Bei Lu, Changping Lu and Kanding Lu. I didn’t find any BBS’s on Kanding Lu but there are a few on Shanxi Bei Lu. Didn’t see anything worthwhile so decided to have a foot massage. I had been walking for quite some time so I guessed these guys needed taking care of. There was a previous report of a small foot massage shop on the corner of Shanxi Bei Lu and Changping Lu so I decided to give it a try. When I went in, the three foot massage chairs were taken but the lady said there was room upstairs. So I followed one of the girls and landed in a small room with a bed, no foot massage chairs anywhere around. A I speak no Mandarin and the girl no English we were both confused. What the heck I thought I just have a normal massage then. I asked how much and she put up two fingers. Well 20 RMB is a nice price for a massage. As I started to undress she started as well and before I knew it she taken off her pants and pulled up het T shirt and was laying on the bed with her legs up in the air. I just stood there in surprise but my friend Willie showed activity so it wasn’t before that we were doing the deed. It surely was a quick “slam bam thank you mam”. It was now clear tpo me the two fingers in the air meant 200 and not 20 RMB. As I went down 20 minutes later the guys in the foot massage chairs looked up at me in surprise. A penny for their thoughts.
In the evening I walked down to the metro station from my hotel when I heard some high heels behind me clicking on the pavement. The girl passed me and it was a nice view from behind. As she slowed down while talking on the phone I caught up with her. When we got to the entrance of the metro it turned out to be closed. She started chatting in English to me and I explained her that there was another entrance so said just walk along with me. I explained her that I had been in Shanghai only a day, that it was my second trip and decided to pop the question if she would like to go out sometime. Without hesitation she said “let’s exchange phone numbers”. I was really surprised with that reaction.
So to all your readers out there: “don’t be shy, give it a try”. You never know where it will lead to. If it does I will report back on it.
Sunday:
Wanted to visit 999 but decided to get off the metro at Damuqiao station to check out the BBS’s on Damuqiao Lu and Lingling Lu. Although it was daytime I could not find any location on Damuqiao Lu coming close to a BBS. The barbershops seemed to be regular onces, but maybe they change their line of business at night.
On Lingling Lu I counted 4 pink establishment and a few questionable massage shops., 2pink ones on each side of the road between Xiamuqiao Lu and Fenglin Lu. But I was not impressed with the quality of the girls. But maybe it is better in the evening. Might go back one night.
Took the metro at Dongan Lu and headed for 999. It was close to 6 pm when I arrived. Directions were very clear thanks to the contributions on this forum. There was a line up of 20 plus girls and I choose #821 as this is a soapy and she had some nice boobs. Not what I was looking for but the best there was available. I have had quite some soapies in Thailand so that was not new to me. But I had never experienced a cath bath and a red rope which were part of the package. An interesting experience I must say. Because the time spent on these activities there was only time for one pop.
That immediately brings me to a first comparison with Sarcosa. If you are not interested in the “extras”, Sarcosa is a better ( 3 pops) and cheaper deal (550 vs 680 RMB). But it was fun to experience, at least once, a red rope and cath bath.
I will keep you posted of my other activities.
Greetings from Shanghai.
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What is the best way to get to Heting? Some reports say there is no metro nearby but other say it is possible. If taking metro, can anyone give detailed directions?
Is the sauna in the Merrylin Hotel still open? Its near the Pudong Intercontinental and the Purple Mountain Hotel.
Also, there was a sauna off Huaihai Road, near Huaihai Park called San Na. back in March I saw that it was closed with a note on the door. Did it move to another place?
Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=Peter Mann]What is the best way to get to Heting? Some reports say there is no metro nearby but other say it is possible. If taking metro, can anyone give detailed directions?[/QUOTE]Take subway line 8 to Siping Lu station. Then walk north for a couple of hundred meters.
[QUOTE=Paulmartin]On my way out of Shanghai. The Shanghai hotel 4th floor is closed. The owner moved around the corner---walking out of hotel Lobby, turn left, second street turn left. Half way down the block.
Have fun.[/QUOTE]Any news on this one? Might go and check it out in the next few days.
Can anyone report useful information on the street scene along Nan Jing Xi Lu?
Are there any reliable touts, scouts?
Are there any reliable FLs?
I happened to stroll there over the weekend but had other missions in mind (including Swissotel, nearby). There is a bit of activity, but didn't sample.
Any information greatly appreciated.
Cheers.
P13
[QUOTE=Pushkin13]Are there any reliable touts, scouts?[/QUOTE]How many times does have to be written on the ISG forum?
Go with a tout in Shanghai - or China in general - and you will get 'fleeced' at best - 'robbed and beaten to death' at worst.
Why risk it? You are already within mtrs of the TomgRen Lu bars - tons of w.h.o.r.e.s there - go pick one - walk outside the bar - get taxi to your hotel.
Next morning you will still have your health and your wallet - albeit it will be tad skinnier and lighter.
[QUOTE=Pushkin13]Can anyone report useful information on the street scene along Nan Jing Xi Lu?
Are there any reliable touts, scouts?
Are there any reliable FLs?
I happened to stroll there over the weekend but had other missions in mind (including Swissotel, nearby). There is a bit of activity, but didn't sample.
Any information greatly appreciated.
Cheers.
P13[/QUOTE]The Golden Rule (and already frequently stated in this thread): Never ever go with touts in Shanghai! You will be in trouble, sure as hell burns.
Don't say afterwards that you haven't been warned.
Levitian
[url]http://english.eastday.com/e/0708/u1a4489181.html[/url]
Evidently, a good number of BBS if not most are staffed with captive sex slaves. Imagine what the penalties will be if you are caught especially for a Lao wai.
1. Does anyone have any experience with touts organising a lineup or "preview"(along, or near, Nan Jing Xi Lu)?
2. Can anyone report if any of the FLs along NJXL (not in bars) give value for money? [Bars usually don't do it for me. Not many of them have a "safe air" policy!!]
Just 2 little questions. :) :)
P13
[QUOTE=Bier 8]Did anyone ever try escortschina dot com?
Girls look very good and the $70/yr membership could be good value.
Anyone?[/QUOTE]I tried it a long time back and total bullshit. waste of money plus girls are fake.
Attend Heting Elite on Siping Lu. Mildly tricky to get to because of the roadworks. One has to travel past when heading from the South and make a Uturn to get back. This was a slight problem when Taxi Driver's English consisted on zero words and my vocab in Chinese matched his knowledge of English. Having rtff I was advised that it was near 777 but I saw a large yellow sign and obviously that helps. This sign is more visible from the north.
Arrived 5 July +- 11:30 Sunday night and departed +- 2:00 am. Here is the list of tricks I got for CNY698.
1. Ushered in
2. Courteous explanation and assistance when I explained that I did not have the cash. Problem sorted afterwards.
3. Belongings stowed in locker with a fairly secure system. Phone alowed to be kept.
4. Line up - I thought I was being introduced to a set of identical octupulets (sp).
5. Shower - includes drying by attendants.
6. Excellent massage.
7. Cat bath ie licked pretty much head to toe. This included deep finger sucking.
8. Toe Job. This consists of a bit of preparation with paper towels and a condom over big toe. Then it is ridden.
9. Nipple massage, where she initially put ice cubes over the nips and then ran them over the body. Initially one can feel the hardness.
10. BBBJ
11. AR.
12. Screw
13. More BBBJ with CIM
14. Wind-down on bed with heated items (sort of small hot-water bottles) and further massage.
15. Repeat of Shower
16. Cup of tea (also offered at point 3 above).
17. Payment and assistance with Taxi so that it was waiting for me when I left.
As this was my first visit to a full sauna let me express my gratitude to earlier posters who advised on 'going with the flow' and what to expect.
The BJ excellent. Deep throat skills were good and did not fail where many others can be careless. Ie good use of teeth, and (more important) good avoidance of teeth at the wrong times.
Massage too was excellent and (the assumed) training must have been near professional. This is a picky subject for me as I can give a better massage than most 'professionals'. The girl had a top knowledge of how to work the muscles. Two minor gripes though. Did not get a neck massage and afterwards I showed her how to do that. Also this girl had fabulous fingernails (strength and length) and I took the opportunity to show her how they can be used. She showed me what she learned at point 14 above.
The AR too was top of the line, not only in length of time but also in technique, and she knew how to simultaneously stimulate the perineum to perfection. This is administered while you are on your hands and knees.
The screw (mish) was about what you would would expect but I find the fake moaning a bit of a turn off. This is not a serious gripe as it would not be beyond the with of even an Australian to make the finger over the lips sign
With a shush. Very interesting (and new to me) experience of warming the pussy. Prior to the screw the girl had inserted a condom quarter filled with heated water, this was taken out prior to banging her.
The CIM was good (they always are) but in this instance after completion the behaviour is very polite. I don't imagine she swalowed but I did not see her spit. Most girls don't want any protein supplements and the usual (for me) experience is that the girl runs off and large spitting noises can be heard.
I recommend this place. This is my first visit to China and I tried out a couple of BBSs. Why would you pay 200
For a cheap but cheerful experience when you can get an experience that lasts ages, is infinately better, and leaves you feeling very satisifed? My 'criticisms' are pretty trivial, mainly personal to me and this is a classy joint.
=======================================
I stayed at the Hengsheng Peninsula Hotel on Wusong Road. Not the best location but is closish to the Heting. So that is a plus I suppose. I booked a delux room through an online agency (Expedia) and the cost was CNY 400 per night. I took the room because of the boasted views of the Bund, River and Oriental Pearl Tower. Fail on all three. There is no view of the Bund, the Pearl tower is obscured by another building, and the river shares the view with the construction. One cannot see Pudong very far because of the smog. Still ok hotel for the price which includes a substantial breakfast. The internet connection is fast, at least it would be fast if it connected. I don't think I am doing anything wrong as I have networked PCs so I know what I am doing.
The place is definitely girl friendly. In the space of less than 72 hours I took 4 girls up to my room. This was preceded by some chit-chat in full view at in the loby. Amusing was concierge who, by the 4th came around, could not hide his surprise. Actually I lucked out on three of the four and so was not the superstud he may have thought. One was from craigslist and wanted more than agreed, so I sent her packing. The other two were freebies with whom (if I have my American terminology right) I only got as far as first base. They are pretty decent girls and have been showing me round Shanghai. It has been quite some logistical exercise to ensure no "overlap" either with each other, invites from the street girl and my visits to BBSs. In two weeks I will be returning to Shanghai for another 3 days as an extended stopover on my way home and will go for the home run (or home runs).
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[QUOTE=Stopover]Attend Heting Elite on Siping Lu. Mildly tricky to get to because of the roadworks. One has to travel past when heading from the South and make a Uturn to get back. This was a slight problem when Taxi Driver's English consisted on zero words and my vocab in Chinese matched his knowledge of English. Having rtff I was advised that it was near 777 but I saw a large yellow sign and obviously that helps. This sign is more visible from the north.
Arrived 5 July +- 11:30 Sunday night and departed +- 2:00 am. Here is the list of tricks I got for CNY698.
1. Ushered in
2. Courteous explanation and assistance when I explained that I did not have the cash. Problem sorted afterwards.
3. Belongings stowed in locker with a fairly secure system. Phone alowed to be kept.
4. Line up - I thought I was being introduced to a set of identical octupulets (sp).
5. Shower - includes drying by attendants.
6. Excellent massage.
7. Cat bath ie licked pretty much head to toe. This included deep finger sucking.
8. Toe Job. This consists of a bit of preparation with paper towels and a condom over big toe. Then it is ridden.
9. Nipple massage, where she initially put ice cubes over the nips and then ran them over the body. Initially one can feel the hardness.
10. BBBJ
11. AR.
12. Screw
13. More BBBJ with CIM
14. Wind-down on bed with heated items (sort of small hot-water bottles) and further massage.
15. Repeat of Shower
16. Cup of tea (also offered at point 3 above).
17. Payment and assistance with Taxi so that it was waiting for me when I left.
As this was my first visit to a full sauna let me express my gratitude to earlier posters who advised on 'going with the flow' and what to expect.
The BJ excellent. Deep throat skills were good and did not fail where many others can be careless. Ie good use of teeth, and (more important) good avoidance of teeth at the wrong times.
Massage too was excellent and (the assumed) training must have been near professional. This is a picky subject for me as I can give a better massage than most 'professionals'. The girl had a top knowledge of how to work the muscles. Two minor gripes though. Did not get a neck massage and afterwards I showed her how to do that. Also this girl had fabulous fingernails (strength and length) and I took the opportunity to show her how they can be used. She showed me what she learned at point 14 above.
The AR too was top of the line, not only in length of time but also in technique, and she knew how to simultaneously stimulate the perineum to perfection. This is administered while you are on your hands and knees.
The screw (mish) was about what you would would expect but I find the fake moaning a bit of a turn off. This is not a serious gripe as it would not be beyond the with of even an Australian to make the finger over the lips sign
With a shush. Very interesting (and new to me) experience of warming the pussy. Prior to the screw the girl had inserted a condom quarter filled with heated water, this was taken out prior to banging her.
The CIM was good (they always are) but in this instance after completion the behaviour is very polite. I don't imagine she swalowed but I did not see her spit. Most girls don't want any protein supplements and the usual (for me) experience is that the girl runs off and large spitting noises can be heard.
I recommend this place. This is my first visit to China and I tried out a couple of BBSs. Why would you pay 200
For a cheap but cheerful experience when you can get an experience that lasts ages, is infinately better, and leaves you feeling very satisifed? My 'criticisms' are pretty trivial, mainly personal to me and this is a classy joint.
=======================================
I stayed at the Hengsheng Peninsula Hotel on Wusong Road. Not the best location but is closish to the Heting. So that is a plus I suppose. I booked a delux room through an online agency (Expedia) and the cost was CNY 400 per night. I took the room because of the boasted views of the Bund, River and Oriental Pearl Tower. Fail on all three. There is no view of the Bund, the Pearl tower is obscured by another building, and the river shares the view with the construction. One cannot see Pudong very far because of the smog. Still ok hotel for the price which includes a substantial breakfast. The internet connection is fast, at least it would be fast if it connected. I don't think I am doing anything wrong as I have networked PCs so I know what I am doing.
The place is definitely girl friendly. In the space of less than 72 hours I took 4 girls up to my room. This was preceded by some chit-chat in full view at in the loby. Amusing was concierge who, by the 4th came around, could not hide his surprise. Actually I lucked out on three of the four and so was not the superstud he may have thought. One was from craigslist and wanted more than agreed, so I sent her packing. The other two were freebies with whom (if I have my American terminology right) I only got as far as first base. They are pretty decent girls and have been showing me round Shanghai. It has been quite some logistical exercise to ensure no "overlap" either with each other, invites from the street girl and my visits to BBSs. In two weeks I will be returning to Shanghai for another 3 days as an extended stopover on my way home and will go for the home run (or home runs).
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FA
[QUOTE=Matsui San][url]http://english.eastday.com/e/0708/u1a4489181.html[/url]
Evidently, a good number of BBS if not most are staffed with captive sex slaves. Imagine what the penalties will be if you are caught especially for a Lao wai.[/QUOTE]Matsui,
this is a terrible case and indeed it may happen BUT I know quite a few BBS girls on a more personal angle and they all can leave at free will, and they do so. Some are even little cooperatives of younger woman alone without a clear boss. so your conclusions may go a bit far. But agreed if you have any feeling there is a non-free will situation involved...run. In general BBs are not a very safe mongering option anyhow, so take care
FA
Not my lucky day yesterday.
Went for Sauna there, and after being 10 min in room with girl, the alarm bell sounds, lights go on/off. The girl grabs the condoms and leaves the room. She tells me to get 'dressed' and stay put in room. Not funny
After hearing lot of noises and guys wandering through the hallways, after 30 min she came back and told me to hurry outside.
Later talked to her and she told me that her friend was caught with customer in bed and she got beaten and is now in jail for 5 days, including the customer! She is very scared now, the place is closed until further notice (maybe a week).
Guys, just want to share this. It was not fun. Trick is to be in room, not sexual active and don't have any condoms in the room; in that case they cannot arrest you.
Be safe
Having stayed in this area of Shanghai many times I can offer the following information to those asking about street action. First, there are several touts there and as previously said DON'T GO WITH A TOUT! They are there to rip you off. Simply say: Bu yao (which translates to Don't want), and they will leave you alone.
There are several girls who hang out just past the Portman-Ritz Carlton heading west on Nanjing lu. To find them, wait till at least 9pm and walk on the Portman side of the street heading toward TGL. They will find you if you walk slowly and look around. The girls rotate a lot but one girl I met can be highly recommended. Her name is Xiao li. She is very short, about 5' in heels and has large breasts. She is there most nights. Bargain with them as the first price will be high.
If you don't find any street girls, then I recommend going to Malone's. The bars get going after 10 PM. Any girl who walks in alone is working. Make eye contact and smile and they will usually come over to you.
I have found that the girls at Malone's less mercenary than those on the other side of TGL at Judys or Manhattan. The girls at Malones will talk to you for awhile if you buy them a drink or two. When they ask you what hotel you are staying at, the negotiations will usually begin. The later at night, the better you can negotiate.
Its only a 5 minute walk to get from Malone's to Judys so its easy to hit all 3 bars in one night. Judy's has girls from other countries, while Malone's generally attracts more locals. Be careful at Manhattan as there are several ladyboys who hang out there.
AL
[QUOTE=Atapchee]Is the sauna in the Merrylin Hotel still open? Its near the Pudong Intercontinental and the Purple Mountain Hotel.
Also, there was a sauna off Huaihai Road, near Huaihai Park called San Na. back in March I saw that it was closed with a note on the door. Did it move to another place?
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I walked by the hotel and decided to see if the sauna is still in operation as it is on my list to visit as well. When you get to the third floor there is pricelist for normal sauna activities but if you walk up to one of the guys they ask you "special sauna"?
According to one guy who speaks a little English there are around 20 girls available and the price is 689RMB for 70 minutes. I was there around 9.30 pm and forgot to ask if they have an afternoon rate like Sacrosa.
I will report back on my experiences when I have actually visited the place.
Have fun!
[QUOTE=Paulmartin]On my way out of Shanghai. The Shanghai hotel 4th floor is closed. The owner moved around the corner---walking out of hotel Lobby, turn left, second street turn left. Half way down the block.
Have fun.[/QUOTE]Followed Paul's directions last night but did not find any sauna on Changle Lu (second street on the left after you leave the lobby) although I passed a BBS with 4 girls who were waiving to me to come inside.
Hi Bier, can you tell us what time that happened. A mate of mine has the theory that it always happens around 20:00.
[QUOTE=Bier 8]Not my lucky day yesterday.
Went for Sauna there, and after being 10 min in room with girl, the alarm bell sounds, lights go on/off. The girl grabs the condoms and leaves the room. She tells me to get 'dressed' and stay put in room. Not funny
After hearing lot of noises and guys wandering through the hallways, after 30 min she came back and told me to hurry outside.
Later talked to her and she told me that her friend was caught with customer in bed and she got beaten and is now in jail for 5 days, including the customer! She is very scared now, the place is closed until further notice (maybe a week).
Guys, just want to share this. It was not fun. Trick is to be in room, not sexual active and don't have any condoms in the room; in that case they cannot arrest you.
Be safe[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ander Jeff]I tried it a long time back and total bullshit. waste of money plus girls are fake.[/QUOTE]Tried Chineselovelinks, inundated with ladies, 15 to 20 emails a day. Had to close down, simply too busy. A very strange pattern emerged, almost all were teachers or nurses, with young daughters, divorced by husbands wanting sons. Kept a few contacts!
ID
[QUOTE=Pushkin13]1. Does anyone have any experience with touts organising a lineup or "preview"(along, or near, Nan Jing Xi Lu)?
2. Can anyone report if any of the FLs along NJXL (not in bars) give value for money? [Bars usually don't do it for me. Not many of them have a "safe air" policy!!]
Just 2 little questions. :) :)
P13[/QUOTE]Visit Club LA , there are nice girls you can take. Not so crowded but good service, every man is treated specially.
Enjoy
[QUOTE=Charlie Shanghai]Saturday:
On Lingling Lu I counted 4 pink establishment and a few questionable massage shops., 2pink ones on each side of the road between Xiamuqiao Lu and Fenglin Lu. But I was not impressed with the quality of the girls. But maybe it is better in the evening. Might go back one night.
[/QUOTE]
The quality on LingLing Lu is not so great. The questionable foot massage places have some cute ones, but not the pink establishments. I'd stay clear of BBSs until after 10 pm for quality and safety reasons.
The cute BBS girls get snatched up pretty quick by the Saunas (or locals that can afford one on the side). So, if you find one, she's likely fresh off the train. Better pick the fruit fast becasue it'll be gone soon.
Visited Peacock again after staying away for a couple of weeks since the raids. Business seems back to normal, but for a Friday night there were few customers. They have a new girl No 10 who doesn't look very special, but is sweet and has slow but steady stroke that is incredible. Recommend to try her.
Visited Zhapu Lu mentioned in an earlier report and their about 8-10 BBS’s on that busy and lively street. It seems to me that they are not attracting people’s attention anymore using those turning colored lights outside. When you see those, it is usually a normal hairdresser. The BBS’s have normal lighting, Chinese text written on their windows and in some the view is blocked by curtains or otherwise. I guess that all has to do with recent LE activities although I question the effectiveness. If I can spot them, surely a local LE officer can.
Quality of the girls was 6-7 and they were not waiving for me to come in. Only from the first one on the right when you walk into the street a girl came outside and gave me a card. She said that girls will also come to your hotel. Costs 300 RMB.
Directions: take exit 2 of Nanjing Dong Lu (East) metro station and walk east. Take Sichuan Lu up North across the river. After the river take the second street on your right and the first one on your left.
Where can i get safe "heel job"?
No ball busting.
Thanks!
Dear Ladies/Gentlemen:
I plan to visit the Shanghai area in a short while. I'm looking for something a little bit more exotic.
Does anyone have experience with getting a "heel job" anywhere ? Please share your experiences here.
Thank you very much.
Heel job? Is that something like a HJ, just with the feet? Eventually coming over the feet?
If so, this shouldn't be a problem. I just wonder, whether the girls have enough stamina in their heels to bring you to the end?
I would try a place like Peacock or Tertiary. (Search previous posts for location and system) Should be no problem there, although you may have some difficulties to explain, if you don't speak any Chinese.
[QUOTE=Hltsang]Dear Ladies/Gentlemen:
I plan to visit the Shanghai area in a short while. I'm looking for something a little bit more exotic.
Does anyone have experience with getting a "heel job" anywhere ? Please share your experiences here.
Thank you very much.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Beijing Fox]Heel job? Is that something like a HJ, just with the feet? Eventually coming over the feet?
If so, this shouldn't be a problem. I just wonder, whether the girls have enough stamina in their heels to bring you to the end?
I would try a place like Peacock or Tertiary. (Search previous posts for location and system) Should be no problem there, although you may have some difficulties to explain, if you don't speak any Chinese.[/QUOTE]
I guess it is just what it sounds like:
[url]http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Heel%20Job[/url]
-J
[QUOTE=Bier 8]Not my lucky day yesterday.
Went for Sauna there, and after being 10 min in room with girl, the alarm bell sounds, lights go on/off. The girl grabs the condoms and leaves the room. She tells me to get 'dressed' and stay put in room. Not funny
After hearing lot of noises and guys wandering through the hallways, after 30 min she came back and told me to hurry outside.
Later talked to her and she told me that her friend was caught with customer in bed and she got beaten and is now in jail for 5 days, including the customer! She is very scared now, the place is closed until further notice (maybe a week).
Guys, just want to share this. It was not fun. Trick is to be in room, not sexual active and don't have any condoms in the room; in that case they cannot arrest you.
Be safe[/QUOTE]Scary time, I've heard at least 2 people (1 german, 1 american) who got caught and, after few days in jail + call to the company + call to the embassy, they had immediate visa removal and back to country immediately...
just hope they won't have the divorce and job lost on top of that... but they may...
I see. But then it is difficult, because the girls at Tertiary or Peacock usually wear sandals. :-(
Maybe, they can slap his dick with their sandals for a change?
May feel good, too?
[QUOTE=Joinem]I guess it is just what it sounds like:
[url]http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Heel%20Job[/url]
-J[/QUOTE]
Hi Bier, can you tell us what time that happened. A mate of mine has the theory that it always happens around 20:00.
It happened at 3PM...
I now have also heard from other 'insiders, that it should be safe after 10:00 pm, because LE has gone home by then.
Has anybody made a contradictionary experience?
[QUOTE=Bier 8]Hi Bier, can you tell us what time that happened. A mate of mine has the theory that it always happens around 20:00.
It happened at 3PM...[/QUOTE]
Yes, I am sure on the pricing. I was quoted 698, and as far as I could tell there was no 'breakdown' for entry / deed. I had expected 800 and only had 600 on me which is why I was very conscious of the price. It was not busy at the time, maybe only 3 or 4 customers. Possibly this had something to do with it. I initially explained I did not have much cash but the management informed me I could go to a nearby ATM to make the withdrawal after the event. At 698 this was a bargain because of the time involved (& quality of service). I estimate that I had about 1:45 with the girl. I would be interested to know if that is normal for Shanghai Saunas.
[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso]Great report! Keep going like that. They indeed trained the girls well there, even though instead of massage I would prefer 2 pops, but hey everybody has different taste and you sound like you had a brilliant time! Are you sure on pricing? Used to be 798 (600 for the deed plus 198 for entry. Could be waived with a Sacrosa coupon or if arive before 5pm)?
FA[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Beijing Fox]I see. But then it is difficult, because the girls at Tertiary or Peacock usually wear sandals. :-(
Maybe, they can slap his dick with their sandals for a change?
May feel good, too?[/QUOTE]
You may be AMAZED with what you can find with Google:
[url]http://shoesession.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16734&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0&sid=24a7449225dea320aef0cdd770ca2e3f[/url]
You might also look for "knee job", "elbow job", and "butt job".
I haven't tried "day job".
-J
Do you ever pay your massager the cost of going home?
How much is this usually and how to approach the amount?
Thank you.
Visited Shanghai for the first time recently and thought I'd write up my experiences.
Had a free night on a recent business trip so thought I'd go out walking around the hotel a bit and seeing if I could score some action. I wanted to avoid the possibility of something bad happening to me so I left all my valuables, credit cards, passport, etc, in my hotel, and took just 200 RMB and my hotel room card key with me and went walking around the nearby entertainment district.
I sized up the scene and chose a small massage place that advertised whole body massage for 50 RMB/hour. I was escorted to a private room and the girl produced another menu that had different options and prices, and recommended the 130 RMB "ethereal oil massage" or whatever saying "it's very satisfying". I thought that was code for "includes happy ending" so I chose it, got naked, and laid on the table. Over the next hour she proceeded to give me an okay-ish normal massage and I kept waiting for the happy ending bit to start, but it never did. She never went anywhere near my happy region and I was too much of an idiot to breach the topic. So in the end she just said "okay, massage over" and left, and I was forced to put my clothes back on and leave unsatisfied, having only 70 RMB left to play with.
I was resigned to the fact that I'd have to go back to the hotel when this guy came up to me and started asking if I want massage/girls/sex. He said the price was 200 RMB. I told him I only have 70 RMB and can I get just a HJ for that price? He said no problem and told me to follow him.
We started walking along the main entertainment street and as long as we were on that one I felt safe, I expected him at any moment to turn to any of the many massage places on the street, but he just kept walking. Eventually I asked him how far away is this place and he said "very near". Bit after that he turned to a deserted side street and started walking along it.
I was having second thoughts by now but for some reason I turned and followed him. I kept looking around me to verify he didn't have accomplices gathering on me to rob me or worse.
Finally he turns and goes into the door of this sleazy establishment. I swallow my misgivings and follow him in, where I'm immediately escorted to a private room with a couch, table and TV. A selection of girls is brought out, I choose the one I want, she sits next to me and we begin chitchatting. Another girl asks me what I want to drink, I tell her I don't want anything to drink.
They find this very odd but I'm adamant that I don't want any drinks. She goes away. I proceed to explain to the girl I just want a HJ for 70 MB. She doesn't know how to deal with this.
The other girl comes back in with a huge plate full of fruits and drinks. I get up and angrily stop her from putting it down on the table, explaining I don't want any of it, I just want a HJ. She gets very angry but eventually leaves.
30 seconds later she re-emerges with drinks in her hands, once again, and this time she won't accept no for an answer, claiming it's a free drink for the girl only (yeah, right). I finally face up to the fact I've been scammed and walk out of the room into the front room of the place.
There's 4 people there including the guy who brought me to the place and another bigger dude. I start to explain "But I told this guy here I only want a HJ and that I only have 70 RMB..." before realizing it's pointless. They're starting to get confrontational now, demanding me to pay up (for what, one might wonder? I hadn't done anything there yet...) and as I explain I only have 70 RMB they start demanding credit cards etc. I take out my 70 RMB, slam them on the counter, tell them that's all I have, no credits cards, no nothing. One of the guys actually pats my pockets to verify this and notices my hotel room card key which is the size and shape of a credit card.
I take it out, wave it at them saying "see? see? It's only a hotel room card key!". At which point they start asking "which hotel? which room?". Now I'm really getting scared; having these people know where I'm staying would be a monumentally bad idea.
So I gather whatever courage I have left, point at the 70 RMB at the counter, say "That's all the money I have; I'm leaving now" and walk out the door, fully expecting for one of them to try to stop me. They don't. I rapidly walk back towards the main street, ready to start running the moment I notice anybody else coming out from the place, but nobody does.
I reach the main street safely and continue my rapid walking all the way back to my hotel. I only feel safe once I'm back in my room with the deadbolt stopping anyone from coming in.
In hindsight, I can't believe how stupid I was. I should've taken some time to do research on China (just reading this forum would've told me all I needed to know to avoid these kinds of problems), and even without that, I should've known better than to trust some random guy on the street and follow him to some out-of-the-way place.
On the other hand, I feel incredibly lucky to having escaped the situation with only the loss of 70 RMB. Much, much worse could've happened. I consider this a very cheap lesson that I'm sure I will never forget. It's so easy to get carried away by the thoughts of nubile young women about to be servicing your every need, if only you follow this nice gentleman here whose going to introduce you to them...The risk doesn't seem that high when you meet him, it's a bright street scene with hundreds of people around after all, what could go wrong?
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Wow! Amazing how far a shoe can go?
[QUOTE=Joinem]You may be AMAZED with what you can find with Google:
[url]http://shoesession.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16734&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0&sid=24a7449225dea320aef0cdd770ca2e3f[/url]
You might also look for "knee job", "elbow job", and "butt job".
I haven't tried "day job".
-J[/QUOTE]
I want your opinion : which girl from saunas is doing the best BBBJ/CIM?
Nice try Gatelly. What about doing some homework before starting asking the questions? Hint: click on "Search this Thread" at the top right corner of this page......
I'm not here to qualify your questions, but asking such an open one in a 20 million people city like SH takes some courage, we must admit it.
[QUOTE=Gatelly]I want your opinion : which girl from saunas is doing the best BBBJ/CIM?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Pushkin13]1. Does anyone have any experience with touts organising a lineup or "preview"(along, or near, Nan Jing Xi Lu)?
2. Can anyone report if any of the FLs along NJXL (not in bars) give value for money? [Bars usually don't do it for me. Not many of them have a "safe air" policy!!]
Just 2 little questions. :) :)
P13[/QUOTE]
Pushkin13,
see below's report of Wagenbach, that is what will happen when following any kind of touts or "scouts".
Levitian
[QUOTE=Drainaps]Nice try Gatelly. What about doing some homework before starting asking the questions? Hint: click on "Search this Thread" at the top right corner of this page......
I'm not here to qualify your questions, but asking such an open one in a 20 million people city like SH takes some courage, we must admit it.[/QUOTE]
Hehehe, yes, indeed!
Levitian
I vote for #72 at Merrilyn. She's got SKILLS, and looks pretty decent too.
[QUOTE=Gatelly]I want your opinion : which girl from saunas is doing the best BBBJ/CIM?[/QUOTE]
Ouch man, glad that worked out as well as it did for you.
[QUOTE=Wagenbach]Visited Shanghai for the first time recently and thought I'd write up my experiences.
Had a free night on a recent business trip so thought I'd go out walking around the hotel a bit and seeing if I could score some action. I wanted to avoid the possibility of something bad happening to me so I left all my valuables, credit cards, passport, etc, in my hotel, and took just 200 RMB and my hotel room card key with me and went walking around the nearby entertainment district.
I sized up the scene and chose a small massage place that advertised whole body massage for 50 RMB/hour. I was escorted to a private room and the girl produced another menu that had different options and prices, and recommended the 130 RMB "ethereal oil massage" or whatever saying "it's very satisfying". I thought that was code for "includes happy ending" so I chose it, got naked, and laid on the table. Over the next hour she proceeded to give me an okay-ish normal massage and I kept waiting for the happy ending bit to start, but it never did. She never went anywhere near my happy region and I was too much of an idiot to breach the topic. So in the end she just said "okay, massage over" and left, and I was forced to put my clothes back on and leave unsatisfied, having only 70 RMB left to play with.
I was resigned to the fact that I'd have to go back to the hotel when this guy came up to me and started asking if I want massage/girls/sex. He said the price was 200 RMB. I told him I only have 70 RMB and can I get just a HJ for that price? He said no problem and told me to follow him.
We started walking along the main entertainment street and as long as we were on that one I felt safe, I expected him at any moment to turn to any of the many massage places on the street, but he just kept walking. Eventually I asked him how far away is this place and he said "very near". Bit after that he turned to a deserted side street and started walking along it.
I was having second thoughts by now but for some reason I turned and followed him. I kept looking around me to verify he didn't have accomplices gathering on me to rob me or worse.
Finally he turns and goes into the door of this sleazy establishment. I swallow my misgivings and follow him in, where I'm immediately escorted to a private room with a couch, table and TV. A selection of girls is brought out, I choose the one I want, she sits next to me and we begin chitchatting. Another girl asks me what I want to drink, I tell her I don't want anything to drink.
They find this very odd but I'm adamant that I don't want any drinks. She goes away. I proceed to explain to the girl I just want a HJ for 70 MB. She doesn't know how to deal with this.
The other girl comes back in with a huge plate full of fruits and drinks. I get up and angrily stop her from putting it down on the table, explaining I don't want any of it, I just want a HJ. She gets very angry but eventually leaves.
30 seconds later she re-emerges with drinks in her hands, once again, and this time she won't accept no for an answer, claiming it's a free drink for the girl only (yeah, right). I finally face up to the fact I've been scammed and walk out of the room into the front room of the place.
There's 4 people there including the guy who brought me to the place and another bigger dude. I start to explain "But I told this guy here I only want a HJ and that I only have 70 RMB..." before realizing it's pointless. They're starting to get confrontational now, demanding me to pay up (for what, one might wonder? I hadn't done anything there yet...) and as I explain I only have 70 RMB they start demanding credit cards etc. I take out my 70 RMB, slam them on the counter, tell them that's all I have, no credits cards, no nothing. One of the guys actually pats my pockets to verify this and notices my hotel room card key which is the size and shape of a credit card.
I take it out, wave it at them saying "see? see? It's only a hotel room card key!". At which point they start asking "which hotel? which room?". Now I'm really getting scared; having these people know where I'm staying would be a monumentally bad idea.
So I gather whatever courage I have left, point at the 70 RMB at the counter, say "That's all the money I have; I'm leaving now" and walk out the door, fully expecting for one of them to try to stop me. They don't. I rapidly walk back towards the main street, ready to start running the moment I notice anybody else coming out from the place, but nobody does.
I reach the main street safely and continue my rapid walking all the way back to my hotel. I only feel safe once I'm back in my room with the deadbolt stopping anyone from coming in.
In hindsight, I can't believe how stupid I was. I should've taken some time to do research on China (just reading this forum would've told me all I needed to know to avoid these kinds of problems), and even without that, I should've known better than to trust some random guy on the street and follow him to some out-of-the-way place.
On the other hand, I feel incredibly lucky to having escaped the situation with only the loss of 70 RMB. Much, much worse could've happened. I consider this a very cheap lesson that I'm sure I will never forget. It's so easy to get carried away by the thoughts of nubile young women about to be servicing your every need, if only you follow this nice gentleman here whose going to introduce you to them...The risk doesn't seem that high when you meet him, it's a bright street scene with hundreds of people around after all, what could go wrong?
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Yeah, you are really lucky man. I've heard of many really bad horror stories, some from members on another forum and others from friends in Shanghai. 70 RMB is really cheap, and without any black eyes or bruises. It's good for someone to remind us once in a while, especially for new comers to China, and probably most of Asia as these types of scams are prevalent all over.
[QUOTE=Woshilaozi]Ouch man, glad that worked out as well as it did for you.[/QUOTE]
Transportation's pretty cheap in Shanghai so you only probably need to give 15-25 RMB. Don't mind paying as long as it's not asked for rudely.
[QUOTE=Hltsang]Do you ever pay your massager the cost of going home?
How much is this usually and how to approach the amount?
Thank you.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bier 8]Hi Bier, can you tell us what time that happened. A mate of mine has the theory that it always happens around 20:00.
It happened at 3PM...[/QUOTE]So much for that theory then.
But is there any other pattern why this place was raided and not another? Was it easy to get into? Especially visible? (don't know the sauna)
Did you do anything special to be let go / what did the other guys do wrong?
I don't really want to miss those sauna visits but getting afraid after reading your post!
I was in SH recently for a long weekend and initially to afraid to visit my usual sauna places. However I went with friends to Tongren Lu and ended up in Manhatten where I usually don't go (prefer the lighter drinking bars). Well, if you've been there you know it's like a meet market! We went in there and after making some brief Eye contact (just accidentally by looking around) were approached by mostly vietnamese and philippine girls. I did not intend to take any of them home, but since I was horny as hell I gave in to a cute, small girl from phillipines who seemed to have a nice attitude. She asked for 1000 for the whole night and we settled for 700.
After we arrived at my hotel her attitude seemed to shift, though. On the one hand we had some nice talk about relationships, her hometown, family and such until she told me she liked to be my GF. On the other hand though she was not into the love-making part at all, did not want to shower nor kiss. We did it in a pretty standard-fassion since I needed to unload, but after the first time I just send her away and got some sleep.
Next evening we went to other bars in SH but ended up in Manhatten again. I did not intend to bring someone either, but I was a) really drunk and b) got approached by a good looking chinese girl who seemed to be very GFE. Well, I was wrong in both ways as in the hotel room she was neither. Pretty mechanical sex, fell asleep, she left meanwhile. I think she stole some 400-600 RMB from my purse apart from the 700 that I gave her, but I could have been to drunk to remember how much money I had before. Nothing else was gone.
On the third day I got horny after some of my meetings and after the bad experience with those WG decided to check out Golden 18 Club. It was around 5pm and there were lots of girls to choose from. Unfortunately the 61 that I had during my last visit was exchanged with another girl so I went for the 53 that was recommended. First I must say that I love the procedure: Soapie, then multiple pops - though I miss the real massage or catbath. During the shower they send in a second girl and 53 asked me to keep her for the full time, but I declined so she left after the shower. For my target: She was good looking, ok attitude, no english and good BBJ skills. Not outstanding but good, so I pushed her to go all the way incl. CIM. After some relaxing we went on with the straight sex. 90mins total until she urged me to leave - damn, I could have had another go. 790RMB with the VIP card and totally worth it IMHO.
Next day I went back there but decided that 53 was only average and I should find another jewel like my old 61. So I went for 77, rather tall, dirty smile and 8 face. Same procedure with the shower, second girl came in but I send her away after the "trial period". Then 77 asked if I wanted the soapie and I agreed - luckily! At first she did not want to kiss at all, but the sliding must have made her hot so suddenly we were kissing and soon started fucking (I had a condome with me in the shower...). First round ended happily, we showered and went to the bed for round 2. Not GFE but pretty good play though after I came she complained a lot how big I was and that now her tummy hurted. I think she did not fake it to avoid round three so felt kind of sorry - probably a reason I would personally not choose her again. But overall it was quite good!
I'll be in SH soon and after reading the recent news on raids really don't know if I should go there again... But if the situation was back to normal, I'd surely recommend it!
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I think you should not have even given the RMB 70. I would have called the police right after the 2nd girl appeared with the drinks.
Anyway as the old saying goes, GOD gave man a brain and a dick but only enough blood to use either one at one time.
[QUOTE=Wagenbach]Visited Shanghai for the first time recently and thought I'd write up my experiences.
I did not have a mobile phone with me, and even if I had, what would I have told the police (assuming they spoke English to begin with)? "Help, I'm being held hostage in a bar I don't know the name of at an address I don't know".
[QUOTE=Davidoff Lite]I think you should not have even given the RMB 70. I would have called the police right after the 2nd girl appeared with the drinks.
Anyway as the old saying goes, GOD gave man a brain and a dick but only enough blood to use either one at one time.[/quote]
[QUOTE=Hltsang]Dear Ladies/Gentlemen:
I plan to visit the Shanghai area in a short while. I'm looking for something a little bit more exotic.
Does anyone have experience with getting a "heel job" anywhere ? Please share your experiences here.
Thank you very much.[/QUOTE]Parlours supposed to be springing up all over Shanghai, I was asked to translate the menu for the new "Spa" on right side of Tequila, 53 Weifang Lu. Massage is carried out with silk stockinged feet, with or without oil!
How would you have called the police? I don't think Wagenbach would have known the number or explain to them in Chinese the problem.
[QUOTE=Davidoff Lite]I think you should not have even given the RMB 70. I would have called the police right after the 2nd girl appeared with the drinks.
Anyway as the old saying goes, GOD gave man a brain and a dick but only enough blood to use either one at one time.
[QUOTE=Wagenbach]Visited Shanghai for the first time recently and thought I'd write up my experiences.[/QUOTE]
Hi,
Will be my first time in Shanghai. Plan to try out 999, Sacraso and Heting.
Anyone can advise me do they accept credit card?
Thanks
1. Just get your shorts on ASAP! Dont bother the 'jacket' otherwise it was too obvious you got dressed and with only shorts you can still sell it as you were having a legit massage.
2. Dont let them find any condom
3. Act innocent :-)
I think now 2x before I go to sauna....never again this experience.
[QUOTE=JoyofSex]So much for that theory then.
But is there any other pattern why this place was raided and not another? Was it easy to get into? Especially visible? (don't know the sauna)
Did you do anything special to be let go / what did the other guys do wrong?
I don't really want to miss those sauna visits but getting afraid after reading your post![/QUOTE]
Apologies, like I said only enough blood to use one head. But as a general guideline that has been repeated more than the word "sex" don't go with touts.
[QUOTE=Beijing Fox]How would you have called the police? I don't think Wagenbach would have known the number or explain to them in Chinese the problem.
[QUOTE=Davidoff Lite]I think you should not have even given the RMB 70. I would have called the police right after the 2nd girl appeared with the drinks.
Anyway as the old saying goes, GOD gave man a brain and a dick but only enough blood to use either one at one time.[/QUOTE]
Dear All,
I am looking for near People Square a massage place where i could get a nice relaxing massage at an ok price...
I just want to get some cuddling, and the hands of the girl to come on my balls in order to make me hard, but without handjob.
Do u know a such place ?
Thanks a lot,
Flo Bert
I have use a credit card at 999
[QUOTE=Samuraimaster]Hi,
Will be my first time in Shanghai. Plan to try out 999, Sacraso and Heting.
Anyone can advise me do they accept credit card?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Samuraimaster]Hi,
Will be my first time in Shanghai. Plan to try out 999, Sacraso and Heting.
Anyone can advise me do they accept credit card?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
If you don't have your wife checking your bank account! Ah! Ah!
This certainly echoes my own experience on my last trip to Shanghai. For reasons of discretion I needed to have in-call, so I decided to give the numbers on Craigslist a call. They have a couple dozen numbers updating every day, so you know the vast majority are duplicates and professionally posted. My experience is exactly as Bonzo had... for both numbers that I tried each girl - who was not the same as her pic - immediately tried to upsell (from basic RMB600 service to 2-hour RMB800 service). Really annoying and even tried to offer massage first, so that she could use up the time and I would be trapped into paying money as the girl had performed some "service."
Strong recommendation is to stay away from Craigslist! If anybody has better incall contacts for Shanghai I would be most grateful as I will be there very shortly! Enjoy Shanghai, AsianRain
[QUOTE=Bonzo1]Over the past couple months I've tried out about 10 numbers from CG. I intentionally went for the ones that I thought were most likely to have real pictures (i.e. not those obvious fake ones, ad said "100% really photo", etc.), or in a few cases I just abandoned the idea that the girl would be the one in the photo and went for quality massage, service, etc.
Here are the results:
Number of photos that were real: ZERO
Number of girls that said their photos were really, really, really real, even after questioning on phone: ALL OF THEM
Number of girls that up-sold: ALL OF THEM
Average price quoted on CG: 200 to 300 RMB
Average starting asking price: 2000 (some even quoted prices for "happy" or "happy ending" online at 500 but immediately went up to 1500-2000 once in bed)
Average landing price: 1000 to 1500, and two girls left with nothing when I tried to bargain to 800
Average quality of massage (1 to 10): 1 (only because I didn't include zero as an option here)
Average quality of sex (1 to 10): 5 or 6...a few did ok, none rocked my world.
Average looks for the girls: Surprisingly not bad in this category, but not nearly as good as the pictures, even the "natural looking" pictures
Average punctuality: 30 min to 1 hour later than promised, and unbelievably three NO SHOWS (they messaged hours later saying they had been busy and could they come immediately now, but I never replied).
There seem to be a few adds on there for no up-selling (500, 700, and 800 prices listed right on the subject lines), which are the three I didn't try since there's no way those photos are real. I should have though. Maybe I will sometime, but I'm so burned out on CG that I've had it for the time being. Anyone who has feel free to inform us.
Conclusion - Avoid CG like the plague and leave it to the business travelers who don't know any better or don't care.[/QUOTE]
Situation in Hangzhou is the same. I've had better experiences with Lotus Massage girls. A couple have turned out to be cuties... happy to give happy endings. A couple have gone all the way with me w/o charging me for more than the happy ending (have to be a repeat customer to build up trust and rapport). Craigslist sucks.
[QUOTE=Asian Rain]This certainly echoes my own experience on my last trip to Shanghai. For reasons of discretion I needed to have in-call, so I decided to give the numbers on Craigslist a call. They have a couple dozen numbers updating every day, so you know the vast majority are duplicates and professionally posted. My experience is exactly as Bonzo had... for both numbers that I tried each girl - who was not the same as her pic - immediately tried to upsell (from basic RMB600 service to 2-hour RMB800 service). Really annoying and even tried to offer massage first, so that she could use up the time and I would be trapped into paying money as the girl had performed some "service."
Strong recommendation is to stay away from Craigslist! If anybody has better incall contacts for Shanghai I would be most grateful as I will be there very shortly! Enjoy Shanghai, AsianRain[/QUOTE]
Hi,
New to the forum. I've only been in Shanghai for a little while but I've been reading this forum and got some great advice. I've been to the BBS's on Lingling and they were good for their price, but the girls kept trying to get me to finish faster which was kind of annoying. A few days ago I tried 999 which was the first soapy I've ever been too and it was amazing. I had 801, short cute big titty girl. It was a bit difficult to communicate since I didn't speak any Chinese and she didn't speak english. After we did the deed she talked a lot more and was pretty funny and I love that water in mouth bbj.
So anyways I had a few questions.
1. Is the back scrub mandatory with the massage or was I pushed into it because it was my first time?
2. Are there any BBS's or other cheap girls near the South Huangpi metro 1 stop?
3. Is there anywhere to just get cheap head?
4. I know that at least in America if asian girls refuse something they just want to you to push harder for it, is it the same her in terms of DATY and Greek?
Thanks a lot in advance
[QUOTE=Flo Bert]Dear All,
I am looking for near People Square a massage place where i could get a nice relaxing massage at an ok price...
I just want to get some cuddling, and the hands of the girl to come on my balls in order to make me hard, but without handjob.
Do u know a such place ?
Thanks a lot,
Flo Bert[/QUOTE]I just tried this massage place recently. It is at the NW junction of Yan'an Road and Zhejiang Road. The place is called Yishen Tang. You can check out the website here : [url]http://www.ys256.com/english/index.html[/url]. There is a map on the website. It is within walking disctance from People Square, on the 1st floor of Dong Hai Building.
The place is very nicely decorated, almost with a zen feel, plus soothing music and the rooms come with in-room shower (at least the one I had did). The room even comes with a huge wooden tub if you want to soak yourself.
I took the RMB398 massage. The first girl that came nearly made me changed my mind and leave, but after I ask for a change, the next girl that came was quite pretty (petite with nice breast).
The procedure was simple. I took a quick shower, and lie naked on the massage table and the girl started the massage. The massage was good. It seems that they are quite properly trained. btw the time she reached the happy region, she did some teasing and continue with proper massage to the feet. After that, she asked me to turn over and continue to massage my chest and slowly move around the happy region again.
The finished was different from what I had tried before. She actually climbed onto the massage table and lifted my legs over her thighs while I was lying face up. Normally, this is done while lying face down. She then started to massage the important area, teasing and controlling, for almost 20 minutes. She kept telling me to control while bringing me to the brink and down again. After 20 minutes, she asked me if I want to release the load and hell, I did.
The unfortunate thing is that throughout the entire event, she refuse my attempt to feel her (even though we were in a very dubious position) or undo her top. She did allow a little touching, as well as a nice kiss.
I would say that this place is highly recommended, but make sure you ask for the girl you like. And once you know them better, it could become more interesting. The best thing, no additional tip needed, just the RMB398.
Of course, if you don't want HE, just tell them.
GIrl : Don't remember number. Could be No. 22.
Looks: 8/10 (cute GND type)
Body: 7/10
HJ: 10/10
Service: 10/10
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[QUOTE=ShanghaiSimon]Situation in Hangzhou is the same. I've had better experiences with Lotus Massage girls. A couple have turned out to be cuties... happy to give happy endings. A couple have gone all the way with me w/o charging me for more than the happy ending (have to be a repeat customer to build up trust and rapport). Craigslist sucks.[/QUOTE]ShanghaiSimon,
My experiences with the Lotus Massage Girls have not yield anything more than a normal massage to date. So I should be trying harder to impress them? Haha.
btw, what is the additional tips for HE?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Velmodine]Hi,
New to the forum. I've only been in Shanghai for a little while but I've been reading this forum and got some great advice. I've been to the BBS's on Lingling and they were good for their price, but the girls kept trying to get me to finish faster which was kind of annoying. A few days ago I tried 999 which was the first soapy I've ever been too and it was amazing. I had 801, short cute big titty girl. It was a bit difficult to communicate since I didn't speak any Chinese and she didn't speak english. After we did the deed she talked a lot more and was pretty funny and I love that water in mouth bbj.
So anyways I had a few questions.
1. Is the back scrub mandatory with the massage or was I pushed into it because it was my first time?
2. Are there any BBS's or other cheap girls near the South Huangpi metro 1 stop?
3. Is there anywhere to just get cheap head?
4. I know that at least in America if asian girls refuse something they just want to you to push harder for it, is it the same her in terms of DATY and Greek?
Thanks a lot in advance[/QUOTE]
Ad 1) not mandatory
Ad 2 & 3) I would suggest you do some more extensive RTFF in order to find your answers here.
Ad 4) You seem to be a real 'expert' here. Good Luck!
Levitian
Sarcosa closed. 2 weeks for remodel I was told. Heitung closed -- no reason given. WP-B2 either closed or relocated.
[QUOTE=Wobudong]Do you remember what was the closest intersection by any chance? I live close by Jianguo Lu, but I never noticed 3 Moon Massage.
Thanks for the tip, will check it out.
WB[/QUOTE]Did a check on the web and found a Three Moon Spa at 338 Jianguo West Road, between Xiangyang South Road and Taiyuan Road. Offers oil massage for 268 and 398. Don't know what is the difference.
Please let us know if you do try it out.
Arriving sh today - any recent news on crackdowns or new hints where/when to avoid saunas?
Sacrosa closed is pretty sad... Someone believe they re-open in 2 weeks?
I was there some time ago. I believe the expensive option includes manicure etc. I had to negotiate HJ with the girl separately. She didn't want to do it below 200.
[QUOTE=Max Chia]Did a check on the web and found a Three Moon Spa at 338 Jianguo West Road, between Xiangyang South Road and Taiyuan Road. Offers oil massage for 268 and 398. Don't know what is the difference.
Please let us know if you do try it out.[/QUOTE]
FYI - careful out there. Crackdown going on.
They shut down the 3rd/4th floor of Di Hao KTV (the naked KTV part) and took people away (2nd floor is still in operation). People should probably be a bit more cautious going to the naked KTVs until after National Day.
With appropriate apologies to one and all, I herewith C+P a report I had written on the Dongguan thread for you guys' on the Shanghai Thread's comments and opinions etc. (perhaps I should have just written it here in the first place!!
Anyway, apologies and Thank you.
SEAJ
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NOW I know why!!
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Now I sort of know why our foreign monger friends come over to Chang Ping/Dongguan/Shenzhen, expecting that everything is gonna be peachy keen even if they don't speak any Chinese.
Just got back last week from Shanghai - which I've not gone to for at least a a year or so. I was having myself a grand ole time at Zapata's when the thought struck me that at least 50% of the patrons there were foreigners, and that conversations were mainly conducted NOT in chinese, but in English and other foreign languages!! Good God, I might as well have been in that place during the era of the French Concession in Shanghai and during the Soong sisters era!! (Soong Ching Ling's former house is where Zapata and Sasha's restaurant is at).
I chatted up 6 gals sitting on the table next to mine and found out that they all were actually working full time in Shanghai - but that only 1 had fluent command of Putonghua. One other spoke a smattering of such whilst the other 4 totally did not speak it at all. Gals!! Furrener Gals!! Living and working in Shanghai without knowing how to speak Chinese!! NO WONDER guys who had previously "experienced China" only in Shanghai, Beijing, Guangzhou etc think that they can just land in C.P./Dongguan and hit the streets running.
I mean, after going mainly to Southern China only during the past year or so, I had BASICALLY FORGOTTEN that the rest of China ain't like what Sarg 2009 describes it as being. People were courteous and civil and acts more like what I GUESS Sarg thinks all Chinese - and I guess the rest of the world - should act and think like. On top of it all, it was clean and a helluva lot safer - at least that is what I felt! Shanghai is 100% more foreign friendly than Southern China.
Guys - those of you contemplating visiting us in these parts (Southern China) - be ready to face a different China than what you'd experienced in other major Chiense Metropolis like Shanghai. It's basically the Wild Wild West out here and you'd better come prepared. At least, hook yourself up with some other mongers who've got previous experience, contacts etc and enjoy our little piece of Paradise. And please do not come OR go being judgemental about what goes on in these parts. It is what it is!
SEAJ
[QUOTE=JoyofSex]Arriving sh today - any recent news on crackdowns or new hints where/when to avoid saunas?
Sacrosa closed is pretty sad... Someone believe they re-open in 2 weeks?[/QUOTE]I'll check.
I'll check Sarcosa in two weeks.
[QUOTE=Joebanker00]FYI - careful out there. Crackdown going on.
They shut down the 3rd/4th floor of Di Hao KTV (the naked KTV part) and took people away (2nd floor is still in operation). People should probably be a bit more cautious going to the naked KTVs until after National Day.[/QUOTE]I think so too. When I went to the expensive HE spa opposite Time Square along Huai Hai Road a couple of days ago with some friends, it was open but only foot massage, no full body massage.
Quite a lot of BBS are closed too.
The Crackdown rolls along.
-Sacrosa and Heting closed. Intent was to reopen today, but they did not. They might try it tomorrow.
- Baoan (Golden Dream Sauna) offering foot massage only. No special services. That's straight from the hammer commander at the desk.
- Ganghong Sauna (2F, Ganghong Hotel) is closed for "interior decoration" therefore "no operations". Same company operates the sauna at Huasheng Peninsula Hotel on Wusong Lu.
- B2 has been gone a long time. It will never be back. Both B1 and B3 of World Plaza is now the "Children's Players Club" with extensive shops, games, and carnival-like rides.
- The "Pants Police" have been everywhere. Most massage shops that used to allow massage without 'giant boser shhort" now insist on it. "Safer" they say.
- One very quaint and private massage shop (just average kind of place) in the financial area had the Gong An walk in, cut straight to the back, head up the stairs and start knowcking on doors. Everyone was in legit activities at the time, but it scared the manager so bad that for THREE WEEKS he would not allow customers to shower in the place. Nor, would he even allow OIL MASSAGE. Couldn't make it up if I tried.
But. There are new and innovative ways to safely monger. It's takes a little more calling and coordination, but it's very safe indeed.
I will be travelling to SH on friday and SH hotel has been popular hangout for me. Any suggestions where I can get a nice red rope session now as I see Sarcosa is also closed. Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Button]I will be travelling to SH on friday and SH hotel has been popular hangout for me. Any suggestions where I can get a nice red rope session now as I see Sarcosa is also closed. Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Merrylin -- 3rd floor -- depends on who you choose.
went to my dive place near wuding road and found the door open but a sheet draped over the door. opened it and found a pretty cute girl available. fs, including bbbj, for 200. 150 for straight up s.
good technique and hot sex even though she didnt strip naked. allowed me to unhook her bra and lick to my hearts content. pretty good sex and finished with me lying on top of her. when we were cleaning up she told me things are tight as i guess all the brothers can tell so that is why they have a sheet in front.
she also told me that after 12 midnight i could take her back to my place for 400 rmb with unlimited shots. am sorely tempted to next time i am in town. if i do her 3 times then i get my moneys worth ;-)
Things are getting serious by the week. A couple of months back, I recommended going to local places in suburban SH as a way to avoid a LE-ending to your massage.
Well, the situation is that even remote local massage places are being raided and shut down. I'm friends w a lady that has worked in a couple of shops far from downtown, in a 300% non-laowai neighbourhood and same thing.
Last month LE came in and took away a lady friend of hers + Customer that were caught naked going at each other. 10 days in jail each and shop closed down for good. My friend been back to her hometown for the last 6 weeks, and has no intention to be back in business anytime soon.
She also told me of another laowai caught in a raid: 10 days jail, loss of work permit + expelled from country for good.
Guys, this is getting as serious as it can get. I've never seen this before. Don't risk going at it in the usual open-to-the-public places.
Only full-service option I can think of for visitors and locals alike is takeaway from TRL or similar places, as everything else is a minefield these days. Be careful out there.
[QUOTE=Drainaps]Things are getting serious by the week. A couple of months back, I recommended going to local places in suburban SH as a way to avoid a LE-ending to your massage.
Well, the situation is that even remote local massage places are being raided and shut down. I'm friends w a lady that has worked in a couple of shops far from downtown, in a 300% non-laowai neighbourhood and same thing.
Last month LE came in and took away a lady friend of hers + Customer that were caught naked going at each other. 10 days in jail each and shop closed down for good. My friend been back to her hometown for the last 6 weeks, and has no intention to be back in business anytime soon.
She also told me of another laowai caught in a raid: 10 days jail, loss of work permit + expelled from country for good.
Guys, this is getting as serious as it can get. I've never seen this before. Don't risk going at it in the usual open-to-the-public places.
Only full-service option I can think of for visitors and locals alike is takeaway from TRL or similar places, as everything else is a minefield these days. Be careful out there.[/QUOTE]
I was a private dinner party in a private home last week with about 10 other foreign businesspeople. Without warning, almost 10 LE (some in uniform, some not) came to the house and asked to check our ID. Most of us did not have our passports but they took down our names/DOB etc. The whole mess took maybe 45 minutes. They called it a ROUTINE CHECK.
Yeah right.
I guess any gathering or group of (white) foreigners together is a risk in China these days. What's going on in this country?
Initially I came with the intention to visit most of well frequented sauna’s posted on this board. I did visit Sacrosa and 999 in my first weekend, but the stories about the raids have really scared me. The thought of having to spend a week in jail, never be able to come back to China and possible layoff/divorce have made me decide to look for other options.
I made contact with two girls through the AFF site and chatted with them on occasion. Last week I made appointments with them to go out on the town. With the first one there was no chemistry so I went back to the hotel early. But with the second one it was a different story. We had a nice dinner and as we were thinking about where to go next I proposed her place and she agreed without hesitation. She went to change and returned wearing nothing more than a silk negligee and cuddled up against me on the couch. It didn’t take before we were in the bedroom and had a great time. She wanted me to stay overnight but as she lives in Puxi and I am staying in a hotel in Pudong I decided to get back and not wait for the morning rush hour. We agreed to meet again soon.
During my last trip I met a girl in an Irish pub who gave me a card of a bar on Changyi Lu, north of Pudong Avenue, between Fushan Lu and Dongfang Lu. There is a strip of 7 bars there with Chinese and Philippino girls. I went there a view times for a few drinks and games. I soon had picked my favorite and asked her to come back to the hotel with me on a Saturday. I expected no for an answer as I had read that in these type of bars it is not possible to go for take out. But she named her price and I agreed. She stayed all night and most of Sunday. We really had a nice GFE experience. It might be a little more expensive than the sauna, 1000 RMB, but it doesn’t give you the stress of who might be knocking on your door and is a relaxing experience. The deal in the bar I frequented is that the girls are not allowed to leave with you until you have bought them 6 drinks of 45 RMB minimum each. After that they are free to decide. What is also nice is that the girls are not pushing you at all to take them home with you. You more or less have to convince them. And although that might be part of the game, isn’t that what we really want.
Happy hunting!
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[QUOTE=Waldeck2]Merrylin -- 3rd floor -- depends on who you choose.[/QUOTE]Thanks Waldeck.
Any suggest can you maybe give us a number or name at Merrylin and any other place like Thompsons, 999, or anywhere else? I will be at the Hilton in SH anything around there.
Thanks for all your help.
Are things really that bad in Shanghai? I heard similar stories down south in SZ and CP and that's because there is a change in political leader. Does that apply to SH too? I am flying to SH tomorrow so it won't be much fun if all the establishments are closed. Can somebody give a more recent update on the situation? Will it be better/safer to do a takeout with one of the BBS gals?
SM
[QUOTE=Yellow Fever #2]I was a private dinner party in a private home last week with about 10 other foreign businesspeople. Without warning, almost 10 LE (some in uniform, some not) came to the house and asked to check our ID. Most of us did not have our passports but they took down our names/DOB etc. The whole mess took maybe 45 minutes. They called it a ROUTINE CHECK.
Yeah right.
I guess any gathering or group of (white) foreigners together is a risk in China these days. What's going on in this country?[/QUOTE]
I was so tempted today to head out to a sauna today, but maybe good i did not. Still any clue on safe times?
Also what is the reasoning for heavy activity? Just expo? I mean, saunas are natural even to chinese men and normally in china no one gets busted without reason ( and as long as he pays)
Trl always ended in disappointment for me.
The whole crackdown thing has me a little worried. Is it because of Expo or upcoming Oct 1 National Day? What happened in prior years around this time? And is it just SH or are raids pretty common in the entire country around National Day?
[QUOTE=JoyofSex]I was so tempted today to head out to a sauna today, but maybe good i did not. Still any clue on safe times?
Also what is the reasoning for heavy activity? Just expo? I mean, saunas are natural even to chinese men and normally in china no one gets busted without reason ( and as long as he pays)
Trl always ended in disappointment for me.[/QUOTE]What I was told is that there is no time, however it is more likely to happen shen there are laowai in the sauna... lot of people just calling them when foreign customers go.
The logic is that they want to close all place that could be known by future international visitors, during the expo the places that will stay open will refuse to let foreigners get in.
I perconally know several people that were caught and, unfortunately, that are no more in China.
Hadn't been to SH for a while so was pretty excited heading into this trip. Got into town, tried Shanghai Hotel. Closed. Made my way over to Tomson. Closed too. Hadn't checked this board beforehand and now I know why they're closed.
Shanghai Hotel closure seems temporary. Entryway still there just closed. There were two other dudes in the elevator lobby who looked just as confused as I was. Tried the doors even though the place was obviously closed (hehe, thought of the same thing but they beat me to it) Tomson seemed permanently closed (I could be remembering the location incorrectly. Had only been once or twice in the past and the entry is somewhat convoluted). Asked the workers hanging around the building and they mentioned that it closed 6mo ago?
Hopped a taxi to TRL and was chatting with the driver about the closures. He mentioned one place on Beijing Lu and Dating Lu. Didn't say anything about crackdowns though. Didn't try the place since after TRL I wandered over to a place on the other side of Yan An Lu which I had forgotten about earlier (across from Shanghai Hotel on Wulumuqi Lu). And yes, closed also.
So damn. What now? Think I will try that Yi Sheng Tang place mentioned in another post. But anyone know of a good, "safe" (is that possible these days? ) sauna still in operation? PM me if you're worried it'll make the local authority's hit list.
[QUOTE=Cold Fire]The whole crackdown thing has me a little worried. Is it because of Expo or upcoming Oct 1 National Day? What happened in prior years around this time? And is it just SH or are raids pretty common in the entire country around National Day?[/QUOTE]
Cold Fire,
It is normal and applies, albeit to varying extents, nationwide. Every year during this period the crackdown starts and runs until after National Day. I reckon that this year may be tougher because of Expo 2010 and that it is an important political anniversary year.
Best to use your phone contacts and be discrete.
Just my POV.
OAH
In my opinion, Step 1 of the whole thing targeted the more obvious and less well connected places popular with Laowai, and this is where, for instance, B2 went down.
LE has definitely gone a few layers down, now shooting pretty much at everything that moves, even in 200% Chinese parts of the city, certainly prompted by Neighbourhood Committees that disapprove of "vulgar and obscene" behaviours that might pervert the young and hamper the way towards an "harmonious society".
Guys, do not risk it. As OAH says, use your agenda and get Service Providers to go to your place, or go for take away in places like TRL (that in my opinion will be targeted sooner or later, given the high concentration of laowai and working girls).
[QUOTE=Sixty Cent]What I was told is that there is no time, however it is more likely to happen shen there are laowai in the sauna... lot of people just calling them when foreign customers go.
The logic is that they want to close all place that could be known by future international visitors, during the expo the places that will stay open will refuse to let foreigners get in.
[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sixty Cent]What I was told is that there is no time, however it is more likely to happen shen there are laowai in the sauna... lot of people just calling them when foreign customers go.
The logic is that they want to close all place that could be known by future international visitors, during the expo the places that will stay open will refuse to let foreigners get in.
I perconally know several people that were caught and, unfortunately, that are no more in China.[/QUOTE]
Since you know several people who were caught, what happened to them ? Can you elaborate more.
You should have several stories for us. My biggest fear is being deported, black ball and no way back in. Explain this to your boss or wife.
[QUOTE=Weelock]Since you know several people who were caught, what happened to them ? Can you elaborate more.
You should have several stories for us. My biggest fear is being deported, black ball and no way back in. Explain this to your boss or wife.[/QUOTE]You don't need to explain to your boss, they do it for you.
What happen to the foreign customer:
1. jail (max 15 days)
2. fine (people I know did pay arounf 30Krmb... not he worse)
3. they contact embassy + employer
4. no more work permit/ visa... and 30 days to leave China
Among people caught, one is a very good friend of mine who had to leave China after.... more than 10 years being there!!!
Most dangerous are saunas, even more than BBS
Usually LE get in as regular customers, before they raid with many other LE join them
Anyone else with friend experiencing the same?
Well another option is to keep cp numbers from prior time together, I have started doing this now and just call when I am back in town, and a text message every few weeks to ask how they are going and stuff helps them remember you.
On my last trip I did notice WG in hotel bars that I have never seen them in before even the local guys were making comments along the lines of "you never see a working girl here" which i my case makes for an interesting observations in terms of interactions between the WG and first time mongers......
If you like Pinays like I do then Tongren Lu or Zapatas is a great place to get cp# especially if you are staying in town for longer then 1 night, go there between 10 and midnight have a chat to a few get their numbers and even when they do ask for a large amount of money, I just say text me later if you have no other options for tonight? Dosent always work but if you are there for a week or so the texts do roll in early in the week asking if your still in town or if you want to get together.
So now I keep away from the saunas etc. but my method requires a bit of planning and regular visits to Shanghai.
YMMV
Wizard
I went there yesterday by #8 subway and got off at Siping Road station and today I went by taxi. It was not that difficult to find and within 5 minutes' walk and I was there. I have to agree that the roadwork has made the whole road a mess and if you come by taxi, the driver may have difficulty to find the right turn especially if you cannot communicate with him in Mandarin. Luckily I have no problem as I'm ethnic Chinese.
The place was not that busy when I visited yesterday. It was about 6pm and I was led to a waiting room and then had a shower. There were about a dozen girls for the line up and the quality was so so, mostly 6-7 in my view. I chose a petite girl called Lili and she told me she's been in Shanghai for only 2 months and she's from Harbin. I said that most girls from Harbin (NE of China) are taller than the average Chinese girls and she laughed. Anyway, the routine followed more or less the same as has been described here previously by one of our senior members. I asked Lili if she was aware that there had been raids by LE recently and she said that she heard of it but their shop is fine. Given the interior designs and decors in this establishment, I would imagine that the boss must have good connection otherwise he would be losing lots of money if his shop cannot open for business. I also noticed that less than 200 meteres away from Heting, there is a small local police station.
The session with your girl is about 70 minutes and you are not restricted to one shot if you can manage within the time. I found this place quite relaxing and after the deed, I went back to the rest room; watched TV and ordered some dinner. The menu was not as extensive as those in Macau but it suited me fine as I was not fuzzy about food. When I left the place about 9 pm, the bill was RMB 798 but the reception told me if you didn't need a receipt, it would only be RMB 698. I didn't need a receipt so RMB 698 was great.
I decided to go there again today as I had time to kill so rather than waiting at the airport, it's better to spend it with a girl in Heting. I arrived at noon and this time the line up was poor, only 5-6 girls and Lili was there too. So instead of choosing someone else, I had Lili again. She was happy and surprised to see as I told her that I might not be back to Shanghai for a while. The same service was provided and I had some lunch afterwards before I left for the Pudong Airport. The damage was RMB600 as I didn't need a receipt. They also ordered a taxi waiting for me downstairs, excellent service!!
I also found out in my hotel there is a massage/sauna service and the girls there do provide FS. It costed RMB 600 so in comparison, Heting is much better in my view.
I also went to Malone on Saturday night after Heting and it's a great place to have a drink and the Filipino band there was great. There were quite a number of WGs and most of them Filipinos. I was too tired at that time so after a few drinks, I left and went back to my hotel for a good night's sleep.
So I guess it is still OK to go to saunas like Heting after all but go to those with good connections.
SM.
[QUOTE=Salaryman]Are things really that bad in Shanghai? I heard similar
stories down south in SZ and CP and that's because there is a change in political leader. Does that apply to SH too? I am flying to SH tomorrow so it won't be much fun if all the establishments are closed. Can somebody give a more recent update on the situation? Will it be better/safer to do a takeout with one of the BBS gals?
SM[/QUOTE]
Went to a place I never noticed before in Jing An area (maybe edge of Jing An and Pu Tuo)
Inside only about 3 girls. The one that was next in line took me upstairs and began the usual hands up the shirt nipple rub.
Without a lot of pressure, she simply asked what I wanted which I replied " we'll see"
We slowly advanced step by step to fantastic GFE with full kissing.
We never discussed price, and at the end she only asked for 150.
If anyone is into it, you can find them at 374 Xin Feng Lu very close to Xi Kang Lu.
Bus 138 and 24 both go there from closer in the Jing An area. Just get off at the Xi Kang and Xin Feng stop. Walk out of the bus and walk 1.4 block down Xing Feng. Shop on the left.
Bus 36 which drives up Shaan Xi Lu is reasonably close as well.
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[QUOTE=Sixty Cent]What happen to the foreign customer:
1. jail (max 15 days)
2. fine (people I know did pay arounf 30Krmb... not he worse)
3. they contact embassy + employer
4. no more work permit/ visa... and 30 days to leave China[/QUOTE]Scary! Is there no way to get a visa again after that?!
Was back to SH for two nights and the pretty girls on the street with the short skirts made me horny as hell so decided to take the risk and head to Golden18 Club. It was about 1 during the night and when I arrived at the elevator a cute girl stepped out waving her hands as she walked outside as to signal me to follow her. However, the staff guy shoved me in and soon I was in my favorite heaven.
The place seemed empty and selection was rather dire. About 8 girls and none of them a real stunner. Spotted 53 (with the good BJ skills) but in former memory of the old 61 choose to giver her successor a try. She was quite cute but turned out to be a little chobby when she undressed at the room. Her attitude, however, was great: Started kissing immediately and gave me a BJ. Went under the shower but quickly returned for an energetic round of sex in several positions. Then some resting and when she indicated me time was almost up, made a second approach. This time she was even hotter and got completely lost in her orgasm. She couldn't even stand up after it, so I carried her to the shower and placed her on the chair
The door banged instantly as it was 2.35 by now, but for 790 had an. As always pleasent experience.
Second night. And after reading some of your comments. Decided not to take the risk again and went to Manhatten. Quickly spotted an attractive Chinese girl (I am not after the Philipinos and Malays in there). First I did not want to take her home but when I told her outright that I was worried of being cheated she promised to be a real GF and to pay her 1000 in the morning when I was happy. I did not argue about that and after she tried to prove her attitude by some deep kissing we left the bar to my hotel.
Actually, this was the best TRL experience so far. In light she was almost as good looking as in there (her facial skin was a bit old, though, so I doubt she was much younger than 30) and she was quite a good actress. Lots of kissing, some position changes, two happy endings and then fell asleep arm in arm. When I woke up 10am she was still there and after some seduction work agreed to have some morning sports. She left about 11.30 and gave me her number for next time. I am sure I'll call her!
Buttom line: After two failures TRL proved worthy of time and money invested, but it was safe I'd still prefer the saunas. Hope it will some day change for the better!
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Sarcosa open.
After reading about all the suana closures, I am happy I made the decision I did.
Have know a nice Filipino girl that I wrote about before. She had gone back home for a few months, and was thinking of coming back, but had to save up some money first. Being I was going to be in town for about a week, and coming back next month, I arranged her airplane ticket, and she arrived the same day I did.
Nice GFE, never asks for money, and stays with me while I am here. We have "fun" together at least once a day, most days twice. And she is very playful and naughty at times.
A few more days here, then back in about 10 days. Sorry guys, can't share her number.
[QUOTE=JoyofSex]Scary! Is there no way to get a visa again after that?![/QUOTE]
This, I do not know so far, I'll post a comment if my friend, going back after 10 more years in China, will come back on tourist Visa... at this time, I'm not sure, but I guess it would be difficult to get a work permit again.
It is always a good idea to RTFF here as you could have avoided this. There are many similar stories here in the archives.
FWIW, the same thing happened to me on my first visit to SH. Once I read the forum here - many moons ago - it was clear that this is a regular SH scam.
Never go with a tout in Shanghai.
Never.
[QUOTE=Wagenbach]Visited Shanghai for the first time recently and thought I'd write up my experiences.
Had a free night on a recent business trip so thought I'd go out walking around the hotel a bit and seeing if I could score some action. I wanted to avoid the possibility of something bad happening to me so I left all my valuables, credit cards, passport, etc, in my hotel, and took just 200 RMB and my hotel room card key with me and went walking around the nearby entertainment district.
I sized up the scene and chose a small massage place that advertised whole body massage for 50 RMB/hour. I was escorted to a private room and the girl produced another menu that had different options and prices, and recommended the 130 RMB "ethereal oil massage" or whatever saying "it's very satisfying". I thought that was code for "includes happy ending" so I chose it, got naked, and laid on the table. Over the next hour she proceeded to give me an okay-ish normal massage and I kept waiting for the happy ending bit to start, but it never did. She never went anywhere near my happy region and I was too much of an idiot to breach the topic. So in the end she just said "okay, massage over" and left, and I was forced to put my clothes back on and leave unsatisfied, having only 70 RMB left to play with.
I was resigned to the fact that I'd have to go back to the hotel when this guy came up to me and started asking if I want massage/girls/sex. He said the price was 200 RMB. I told him I only have 70 RMB and can I get just a HJ for that price? He said no problem and told me to follow him.
We started walking along the main entertainment street and as long as we were on that one I felt safe, I expected him at any moment to turn to any of the many massage places on the street, but he just kept walking. Eventually I asked him how far away is this place and he said "very near". Bit after that he turned to a deserted side street and started walking along it.
I was having second thoughts by now but for some reason I turned and followed him. I kept looking around me to verify he didn't have accomplices gathering on me to rob me or worse.
Finally he turns and goes into the door of this sleazy establishment. I swallow my misgivings and follow him in, where I'm immediately escorted to a private room with a couch, table and TV. A selection of girls is brought out, I choose the one I want, she sits next to me and we begin chitchatting. Another girl asks me what I want to drink, I tell her I don't want anything to drink.
They find this very odd but I'm adamant that I don't want any drinks. She goes away. I proceed to explain to the girl I just want a HJ for 70 MB. She doesn't know how to deal with this.
The other girl comes back in with a huge plate full of fruits and drinks. I get up and angrily stop her from putting it down on the table, explaining I don't want any of it, I just want a HJ. She gets very angry but eventually leaves.
30 seconds later she re-emerges with drinks in her hands, once again, and this time she won't accept no for an answer, claiming it's a free drink for the girl only (yeah, right). I finally face up to the fact I've been scammed and walk out of the room into the front room of the place.
There's 4 people there including the guy who brought me to the place and another bigger dude. I start to explain "But I told this guy here I only want a HJ and that I only have 70 RMB..." before realizing it's pointless. They're starting to get confrontational now, demanding me to pay up (for what, one might wonder? I hadn't done anything there yet...) and as I explain I only have 70 RMB they start demanding credit cards etc. I take out my 70 RMB, slam them on the counter, tell them that's all I have, no credits cards, no nothing. One of the guys actually pats my pockets to verify this and notices my hotel room card key which is the size and shape of a credit card.
I take it out, wave it at them saying "see? see? It's only a hotel room card key!". At which point they start asking "which hotel? which room?". Now I'm really getting scared; having these people know where I'm staying would be a monumentally bad idea.
So I gather whatever courage I have left, point at the 70 RMB at the counter, say "That's all the money I have; I'm leaving now" and walk out the door, fully expecting for one of them to try to stop me. They don't. I rapidly walk back towards the main street, ready to start running the moment I notice anybody else coming out from the place, but nobody does.
I reach the main street safely and continue my rapid walking all the way back to my hotel. I only feel safe once I'm back in my room with the deadbolt stopping anyone from coming in.
In hindsight, I can't believe how stupid I was. I should've taken some time to do research on China (just reading this forum would've told me all I needed to know to avoid these kinds of problems), and even without that, I should've known better than to trust some random guy on the street and follow him to some out-of-the-way place.
On the other hand, I feel incredibly lucky to having escaped the situation with only the loss of 70 RMB. Much, much worse could've happened. I consider this a very cheap lesson that I'm sure I will never forget. It's so easy to get carried away by the thoughts of nubile young women about to be servicing your every need, if only you follow this nice gentleman here whose going to introduce you to them...The risk doesn't seem that high when you meet him, it's a bright street scene with hundreds of people around after all, what could go wrong?
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Sarcosa open this afternoon.
[QUOTE=JoyofSex]Scary! Is there no way to get a visa again after that?![/QUOTE]
somebody I know was caught in a "ktv" scam and he reported back to police. Police raided the place, but police also then received a video of the guy removing is filled up condom with the girl in the background, taken in the same establishment.
Something the police did not like much and that did not turn in favour of the victim. His company saved his ass, by flying him out of the country in 12 hrs, upon strong suggestion of the embassy.
He has been told not to show up again in China as police kept his records.
He has then been fired by his company for what he did.
Hard to tell the family home reasons why you have been flown back home and you lost your job!
[QUOTE=Softy]It is always a good idea to RTFF here as you could have avoided this. There are many similar stories here in the archives.
FWIW, the same thing happened to me on my first visit to SH. Once I read the forum here - many moons ago - it was clear that this is a regular SH scam.
Never go with a tout in Shanghai.
Never.[/QUOTE]Agreed. Happened to me once. That guy was lucky. I had a few drinks and about 300 Yuan ... and had to fight my way out. Fortunately, most young Chinese kids don't actually know how to fight and I'm just ugly enough to intimadate 'em anyway. One guy chased after me and I held out a 100 RMB note - he stopped and I dropped it on the ground, turned and walked away, not bothering to look back.
Huck
[QUOTE=Bionicman]somebody I know was caught in a "ktv" scam and he reported back to police. Police raided the place, but police also then received a video of the guy removing is filled up condom with the girl in the background, taken in the same establishment.
Something the police did not like much and that did not turn in favour of the victim. His company saved his ass, by flying him out of the country in 12 hrs, upon strong suggestion of the embassy.
He has been told not to show up again in China as police kept his records.
He has then been fired by his company for what he did.
Hard to tell the family home reasons why you have been flown back home and you lost your job![/QUOTE]
So guys, saunas, KTV and bbs are dangerous. What about bring girls into hotel or motel rooms? Do you think police may riad also you in the privacy of your room? At the end of tha day you can alsways say that she is your friend and you rented the room to have some privacy.
What do you think?
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[QUOTE=Bionicman]somebody I know was caught in a "ktv" scam and he reported back to police. Police raided the place, but police also then received a video of the guy removing is filled up condom with the girl in the background, taken in the same establishment.
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Can you elaborate more on your friend's KTV scam ?
Thanks...
I had an 18 hr layover last night, and with the weather and all decided not to venture out. Instead called a "Philly" I met in Manhattan a few month ago. she came to the hotel and I took her out to dinner and had a nice time.
Back to the room and it was okay, but not knock your socks off. She said she came twice, and was tired and wanted to service me in the morning. I "convinced" her that wasn't a good idea....but maybe it should have been.
We had an interesting conversation and she told me that things are really slow for her.....fewer clients and a LOT of new girls in town, because of visa problems getting into Hong Kong and Singapore.
Also in the FWIW section, she said that many of the Philly girls prefer to get paid in USD, because then they don't have to do a currency exchange to send the money home.
I might use this to get a better price...we will see.
BE back in town on Friday. I may give her another shot or head to Red Bean to hear the band and check out the new talent in the clubs next door!
[QUOTE=Sky Ryder]I had an 18 hr layover last night, and with the weather and all decided not to venture out. Instead called a "Philly" I met in Manhattan a few month ago. she came to the hotel and I took her out to dinner and had a nice time.
Back to the room and it was okay, but not knock your socks off. She said she came twice, and was tired and wanted to service me in the morning. I "convinced" her that wasn't a good idea....but maybe it should have been.
We had an interesting conversation and she told me that things are really slow for her.....fewer clients and a LOT of new girls in town, because of visa problems getting into Hong Kong and Singapore.
Also in the FWIW section, she said that many of the Philly girls prefer to get paid in USD, because then they don't have to do a currency exchange to send the money home.
I might use this to get a better price...we will see.
BE back in town on Friday. I may give her another shot or head to Red Bean to hear the band and check out the new talent in the clubs next door![/QUOTE]Hey Skyrider,
I am glad you called a regular. It is definitely not safe in Shanghai at the moment. I called one of the mamasan at one of the massage joints I frequent and and she said most of the girls have either gone home, gone freelance or moving between joints so regularly. Therefore it is handy to keep some phone numbers handy on some of the more reliable servicers that I can call on. It is much safer as I can call them up, take them out to dinner, get to know them a bit better and have a good laugh and end up with some fantastic sex with bit of GFE. The beauty of it is that hotels seems to be much safer nowadays as you know the girl can spend the whole night with you without getting caught. I am definitely calling one of my regulars again when I head up there next week.
Where can I get some viagra or cialis in Shanghai. I am from NY and have no Chinese doctor?
I am staying in Tianjin for three months and will need a good supply.
I am in Hongqui area hotel August 4.
Help!!!
Anyone know how to get Viagra or cialis in shanghai.
I am stuck for three months.
Will be in Shanghai Aug 4??
Hi there Forum...first time posting after having searched it a couple of times to check out the scene here in China. I don't visit that often so its not been too necessary. This is the first time I will be here by myself for a number of weeks (already spent two up north with gal). Oh and more than happy to wing with anyone.
To the report!
Can't remember which chap posted the excellent directions to 999 but they were spot on.
Not having visited Saunas/Massage parlours here in Asia I hadn't read much about the process. However, if your new, it might help your nerves if you just pretend you don't give a f**k about being naked in front of a group of guys waiting to towel you off.
I speak a little chinese so can sort of get by, so that might have helped in telling them, okay, I'm a big boy I can towel myself.
So, clothes, phone etc in the locker.
Shower in an open area (whilst almost being watched). I guess this area is if you have chosen a non sex non soapy massage as its superfluous otherwise.
Then with your "number" (on the tag to the locker) , a big pair of shorts and yakuta style top (think karate gi) you then get lead upstairs to the viewing room.
I had to surpress a chuckle at the viewing room. It reminded me of the Bruce Lee flick where he goes to the island to fight.
The room is a dark room and when you enter on one side of the room a blind raises, showing another room with the girls standing in their grundigs (pants and bras). That room is brightly lit.
Tip. Don't stand to near the window if you don't want them to see you. Its not a one way window as far as I can tell.
Now this was One O'clock in the afternoon on a Wed (yesterday) and there were approx 12 Girls standing there. Overall roughly 7's. Didnt see any better but that could be my inexperience.
I chose number 806 who I felt had nice eyes and a good smile. Plus she had a good rack (well okay.. not massive but perky).
Led to the room by the girl, enjoyed sitting on the seat naked, getting cleaned. Was surprised to have my arsehole cleaned. Quite thoroughly by the girl.
She asked me if it was my first time here in the joint, and i replied yes, but that a friend had recommended it and told me all about it. (a good idea because then she knows that I will know what will happen etc)
So, after the clean, here comes the soapy. Interesting. The licking thing? interesting sensation... equally was the rimming.. wow. not experienced that before. She spent quite some time there too.
Lots of spitting though LOL. cant say I blame her.
Right..
to the action.
after the clean up, she asked me to chose the clothes. I chose the netting. Nice look.
Blow job with water blah blah BBBJ that is, which I almost asked to be covered but my balls got the better of me.
I was busy touching her pussy whilst she was going down and she was getting wetter and wetter which was a nice indication that she was enjoying something!
Sex was, hmmm okay. Various positions, good effort, not too much fake noises.. finished a bit early and the only thing was that she then lit up a fag (she did offer one) and we chatted for ten minutes. She did try to finish early lol, but the mamasan on the phone said oi, get back!
Then back down to dress in the locker room in front of all those boys.
Damage 680 (which I only confirmed when in the room upstairs .. in an attempt to look like I knew what I was doing when walking in the reception..).
Walked around central part of nanjing etc and was approached by numerous touts... no more or less than ever (having been here seven times in the past seven years)
Went to Wuping (?) lu for the cheap restaurants. many many BBS's there. Didnt go in. Clearly the girls were not busy at that time (around 4 ish) and there wasnt that many in each one. Only one had girls I would consider.
Interestingly at night (9 ish) whilst walking to Renmin Park Station I caught a dude frigging off his girlfriend next to the massive statue... I hung around thinking maybe they'll get off on being watched, they certainly didnt stop.
hmm then went back to hotel in Pudong. Lots of BBS's nearby. Went in for a comparison.
Don't bother is my reply. They will try to get 400RMB out of you straight away.
Still the chicken I did select was nice enough.
I'll be here for a number of days and would love to have some to show me some decent places.
I hope that although I have not used all the right acronyms that this report is good enough.
Gratitude to all of you that right reports as it is very helpful.
One question, anyone got a decent place to sit, drink coffee? surf net (wifi?) and check out girls? Going to try a couple of the starbucks but not sure which one is best?
Thanks
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Go to any regular pharmacy in Shanghai and you can buy Cialis or Viagra. Some don't speak English but if you look in their displays you will see it.
Has anyone been to Bourbon Street or Zapatas lately that can update me. I will be in Shanghai in 2 weeks
[QUOTE=Canada]Has anyone been to Bourbon Street or Zapatas lately that can update me. I will be in Shanghai in 2 weeks[/QUOTE]Was in both late May
Bourbon St now an absolute dead loss - do not waste your time.
Zapatas appears to get busier and busier. Wed night is still ladies night - so crowded - hard to get through the crowd and almost impossible to get a drink at times.
W.h.o.r.e.s are there - I never ever do any good in that place - I have wasted hours on occasions on Ruskies and Latinos who eventually ask the world for a night - the Chinese qualitry there I have never found to be any good.
IMHO - I still think Manhattan is best bet in Shanghai - others will disagree.
[QUOTE=Weelock]Can you elaborate more on your friend's KTV scam ?
Thanks...[/QUOTE]
Usual story..... nothing new on planet earth when little head prevails on big head.
he follows a tout, go to some bar/ktv joint.
Certainly not the usual and legitimate KTV establishment, most likely a venue type of dodgy bar, proposing the KTV approach, music, a girl with you, drinks, snacks, the girl gets more intimate and they have sex.
The bill comes, outrageous as happens in all scams.
He protests, understands there is not much he can do on the spot, pays (do not know if cash, most likely, or credit card, unlikely as he has family at home).
Goes back to the hotel and share the story with some friends and a local guide brings up the matter to the police with his approval.
Police raids the place and shuts it down.
Police later gets a video, most likely in an anonimous way:), of him with a girl in the establishment and clearly showing he had FS with her.
Who knows what "comments" could have been attached to the video, maybe turning things upside down, maybe allegedly suggesting he has been forcing the girl against her will etc etc
A scam always have escape plans for the scammers to get out clean.
This turns against him as it is then clear there is at least a prostitution law infringement.
Most likely police suggests he can be in serious troubles now.
We know when a foreigner is in jail in those areas, for such an offence, the key opening the door gets lost for quite a while and there is not much your home consulate can do, if they want to do something, seen the type of offence.
Consulates do not want to be seen mixing up and defending certain types of law infringements.
Nevertheless his (overseas based) company, fearing public news damaging also the company reputation, asks for unformal diplomatic support.
The main suggestion they got is to fly him out of the country immediately with no overthoughts.
Within a few hours he is on the first plane out of PRC.
This way the "problem" is removed and the police at that stage will not bother to set a trial for a no-show defendant.
Certainly he will not better show up at PRC immigration.
Having the company saved their face, the guy's ass and kept all quiet, sends then the "bill" to the employee once back home: he is fired with immediate effect having risked to damage the company image through unlawful behaviour.
Not given another appointment within the company, no!
Simply given his papers to walk home and not show up anymore at the company gates.
Jobless after 20 years of work in that place.
I do not know how he has been handling this with the family and whether they ever got any rumour about what happened in PRC.
Gotta be very careful when playing with fire.
There are already quite some risks nowadays, as we can read here, visiting legitimates venues such as well known saunas.
But falling in a scam is the recipe to serious troubles.
[QUOTE=Shanghaihammer]So guys, saunas, KTV and bbs are dangerous. What about bring girls into hotel or motel rooms? Do you think police may riad also you in the privacy of your room? At the end of tha day you can alsways say that she is your friend and you rented the room to have some privacy.
What do you think?
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I would not mix up the danger occurring from LE and the danger occurring from scams.
LE can get in any legitimate and serious establishment and "clean" the place.
We have read of quite some well known venues, where one can leave his open wallet on a bench in the locker rooms and get it back intact, being raided by police. In that case both the establishment and possibly the customer get in troubles.
Those places tend to protect their customers (as much as they can) with alerts, locked doors, attempts to delay the action of the LE inside the building, so the customer can fly out.
Scams are certainly more dangerous as you will not step out of the scam without a price to be paid. In the best case scenario with much less money in your pockets. Highly recommended not to try to be smart and go to police.
It is clear the scam has been infringing the law more than what you did.
But a) they might even have connections with LE, b) they know how to set all up and protect themselves against tough victims, c) it is their "job" so they have experience and know-how on how to conduct the scam succesfully.
This can happen in any place: even more in "normal places" where the tout fishes for 'customers'
[QUOTE=Bionicman]Usual story..... nothing new on planet earth when little head prevails on big head.
he follows a tout, go to some bar/ktv joint.
Certainly not the usual and legitimate KTV establishment, most likely a venue type of dodgy bar, proposing the KTV approach, music, a girl with you, drinks, snacks, the girl gets more intimate and they have sex.
The bill comes, outrageous as happens in all scams.
He protests, understands there is not much he can do on the spot, pays (do not know if cash, most likely, or credit card, unlikely as he has family at home).
Goes back to the hotel and share the story with some friends and a local guide brings up the matter to the police with his approval.
Police raids the place and shuts it down.
Police later gets a video, most likely in an anonimous way:), of him with a girl in the establishment and clearly showing he had FS with her.
Who knows what "comments" could have been attached to the video, maybe turning things upside down, maybe allegedly suggesting he has been forcing the girl against her will etc etc
A scam always have escape plans for the scammers to get out clean.
This turns against him as it is then clear there is at least a prostitution law infringement.
Most likely police suggests he can be in serious troubles now.
We know when a foreigner is in jail in those areas, for such an offence, the key opening the door gets lost for quite a while and there is not much your home consulate can do, if they want to do something, seen the type of offence.
Consulates do not want to be seen mixing up and defending certain types of law infringements.
Nevertheless his (overseas based) company, fearing public news damaging also the company reputation, asks for unformal diplomatic support.
The main suggestion they got is to fly him out of the country immediately with no overthoughts.
Within a few hours he is on the first plane out of PRC.
This way the "problem" is removed and the police at that stage will not bother to set a trial for a no-show defendant.
Certainly he will not better show up at PRC immigration.
Having the company saved their face, the guy's ass and kept all quiet, sends then the "bill" to the employee once back home: he is fired with immediate effect having risked to damage the company image through unlawful behaviour.
Not given another appointment within the company, no!
Simply given his papers to walk home and not show up anymore at the company gates.
Jobless after 20 years of work in that place.
I do not know how he has been handling this with the family and whether they ever got any rumour about what happened in PRC.
Gotta be very careful when playing with fire.
There are already quite some risks nowadays, as we can read here, visiting legitimates venues such as well known saunas.
But falling in a scam is the recipe to serious troubles.[/QUOTE]
So, it seems like the KTV had a hidden camera somewhere ?
I sometime wonder if some places have a hidden camera taping you having sex in China. For example, I have heard some massage parlors or brothel in Russia video taping customers having sex with a hidden camera. Then they would use the video to blackmail the customer.
[QUOTE=No Will]Where can I get some viagra or cialis in Shanghai. I am from NY and have no Chinese doctor?
I am staying in Tianjin for three months and will need a good supply.
I am in Hongqui area hotel August 4.
Help!!![/QUOTE]
Most Watson's require prescription for V and were not selling C up to Mid June when I left Shanghai. Other small local pharmacies have both. The #1 Pharmacy on Nan Jing Walkway has both but again RX is needed for V. (Go figure)
If you dont speak Chinese bring an empty box to show the pharmacist what you want.
ES
If you go to the Portman Center/Ritz Carlton Hotel on West Nanjing Road, there is a small pharmacy on the second or third level of the Center that sells Cialis w/o a prescription. I forgot the charge, but if I recall correctly, it was the going rate when I was last there in the Spring.
The pharmacist there speaks some English, but if you bring a box of Cialis or write out the word, she will be able to find it for you.
AL
[QUOTE=Shanghaihammer]So guys, saunas, KTV and bbs are dangerous. What about bring girls into hotel or motel rooms? Do you think police may riad also you in the privacy of your room? At the end of tha day you can alsways say that she is your friend and you rented the room to have some privacy.
What do you think?
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Most hotels can be raided too. If LE can enter a private home uninvited en masse as they have done recently, they can surely enter a hotel room.
If she is not your wife, you can be in trouble. There are still laws prohibiting unmarried couples from cohabitating in China.
You may find in a raid, if your girl is a foreigner too (anything but Chinese), your explanation can hold me water. An unmarried Chinese girl could be trouble but this is more a historical oddity perhaps 10 years ago.
I don't think that LE can enter 4 or 5 star hotels but anything less than that I believe is an open target.
Whether they do or not is a question but I 2 weeks ago I took a Chinese girl from a BBS in the Qingdao countryside that kept on telling me she feared LE coming into the hotel. She told me that they come to hotels often.
Maybe it was true, maybe it was a ruse to leave early but I took it as a sign and I sent her home. Her words freaked me out.
Any more senior members wish to add their 2 cents?
Recently there has been some discussion about foreigners getting deported from China and losing their jobs becuase they are caught with a prostitute or in a KTV/Sauna etc with their pants down.
I just found an article about counterfeiting in China, apparently you must have more than 50,000RMB of counterfeit goods on your person in order for the police to procecute!!
from the article: [url]http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE56T0BL20090730?pageNumber=2&virtualBrandChannel=0&sp=true[/url]
[QUOTE]China's legal system hasn't helped matters. Intellectual property cases are hard to bring and even harder to enforce, according to attorneys. One problem is that China's criminal code specifies a minimum value for seized goods in order to trigger criminal action -- seizures worth less than 50,000 yuan ($7,330) aren't prosecuted by the police. Counterfeiters have responded by limiting the size and value of their shipments. [/QUOTE]
What's worse, getting caught with your pants down or having US$7,000 worth of fake product?
China can be a strange place.
[QUOTE=Yellow Fever #2]Recently there has been some discussion about foreigners getting deported from China and losing their jobs becuase they are caught with a prostitute or in a KTV/Sauna etc with their pants down.
I just found an article about counterfeiting in China, apparently you must have more than 50,000RMB of counterfeit goods on your person in order for the police to procecute!!
from the article: [url]http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE56T0BL20090730?pageNumber=2&virtualBrandChannel=0&sp=true[/url]
What's worse, getting caught with your pants down or having US$7,000 worth of fake product?
China can be a strange place.[/QUOTE]
Do not worry about the minimum value necessary in China to be caught for counterfeited products. You better worry to have any counterfeited item on you when you enter some countries in Europe, maybe coming back from China! A bag can be sufficient! to put you in troubles with the local customs.
Still the wife will have understanding if you are caught with a fake bag (your gift to her!, maybe)
Much less understanding if youare caight with your pants down and she is not the one in front of you!
So, the answer is pretty much easy.
[QUOTE=Weelock]So, it seems like the KTV had a hidden camera somewhere ?
I sometime wonder if some places have a hidden camera taping you having sex in China. For example, I have heard some massage parlors or brothel in Russia video taping customers having sex with a hidden camera. Then they would use the video to blackmail the customer.[/QUOTE]
must have had a hidden camera.
But it was not hte typical KTV establishment we all go.
it was certainly some kind of a place looking like a ktv, with "private rooms" etc.
[QUOTE=Yellow Fever #2]Most hotels can be raided too. If LE can enter a private home uninvited en masse as they have done recently, they can surely enter a hotel room.
If she is not your wife, you can be in trouble. There are still laws prohibiting unmarried couples from cohabitating in China.
You may find in a raid, if your girl is a foreigner too (anything but Chinese), your explanation can hold me water. An unmarried Chinese girl could be trouble but this is more a historical oddity perhaps 10 years ago.
I don't think that LE can enter 4 or 5 star hotels but anything less than that I believe is an open target.
Whether they do or not is a question but I 2 weeks ago I took a Chinese girl from a BBS in the Qingdao countryside that kept on telling me she feared LE coming into the hotel. She told me that they come to hotels often.
Maybe it was true, maybe it was a ruse to leave early but I took it as a sign and I sent her home. Her words freaked me out.
Any more senior members wish to add their 2 cents?[/QUOTE]Yellow Fever,
Thanks for your reply. I agree with your point of view but still all this matter looks a bit strange to me. Think about all the Motels in town (168, 268, etc.) most of the rooms are occupied by couples that are not only watching TV. Plus if you bring the girl in the morning (not during night time), do you think that LE can still raid you. You can always claim that she's your girlfriend and that you want some privacy. I am getting concerned now!
Cheers,
DT
[QUOTE=Yellow Fever #2]Most hotels can be raided too. If LE can enter a private home uninvited en masse as they have done recently, they can surely enter a hotel room.
If she is not your wife, you can be in trouble. There are still laws prohibiting unmarried couples from cohabitating in China.
You may find in a raid, if your girl is a foreigner too (anything but Chinese), your explanation can hold me water. An unmarried Chinese girl could be trouble but this is more a historical oddity perhaps 10 years ago.
I don't think that LE can enter 4 or 5 star hotels but anything less than that I believe is an open target.
Whether they do or not is a question but I 2 weeks ago I took a Chinese girl from a BBS in the Qingdao countryside that kept on telling me she feared LE coming into the hotel. She told me that they come to hotels often.
Maybe it was true, maybe it was a ruse to leave early but I took it as a sign and I sent her home. Her words freaked me out.
Any more senior members wish to add their 2 cents?[/QUOTE]
I have spoken to people I do business with about this and it would be very unlikely that the LE will enter a 5 star hotel, but this can happend, the short time hotels are raided and you will be in trouble if you are with a local girl.
So please keep this in mind, when you go back to your hotel with your prize for the night.
I also like to keep to the Filipinas for that reason less chance the LE will be upset that I am taking a local girl with my foreigner money.
Wizard
Thanks for the update Billy. I will try Zapatas on the Saturday when I get there and then try Manhatten if that fails. I have had very good luck in Zapatas in the past and have had a couple of Chinese gems. Last trip in Shanghai was about 6 months ago and met a Chinese girl in Bourbon Street who was a knockout and actually gave her virgin ass to me. She had never tried it and when I asked she said OK let's try. She was very tight and took the whole thing with a little pain. She said she wasn't sure she liked it but was glad she tried it. May poke my head in Bourbon St just to see if by chance she was there. Anyway thanks for the update
[QUOTE=Canada]Go to any regular pharmacy in Shanghai and you can buy Cialis or Viagra. Some don't speak English but if you look in their displays you will see it.[/QUOTE]Is there a Chinese alternative to V & C? Herbal or ???
Can't find anything online, but then I don't read Chinese.
[QUOTE=Big Tom]Is there a Chinese alternative to V & C? Herbal or ???
Can't find anything online, but then I don't read Chinese.[/QUOTE]
"Wei Ge" (V) should be available on most of the pharmacies and most of them are the real stuff as China has revoke the patent and Chinese drug companies are free to make generic ones.
You could probably go in with the name Wei Ge written on a piece of paper and they should know what you want.
After trying all main places in SH, I've definitely chosen Club 18 in Wulumuqi for 3 years. Expensive but by far the best service in town, they even improved last year with an all time CIM with smile... Anyway, been their last week, mid afternoon work brake, it was full of customers like I've never seen it. So I checked the forum and found out all these crazy stories on crack down. Does any of you spoke with the management on safety issues? I remember reading an old post of someone training a girl there. Any intel?
An other thing, I beleive any old timer has his pyjamas oil massage top place with HJ/BJ for old customers. Are they safe for laowai? Or do we need to all boost our business with South east Asia?
Thanks!
PS: Been to Guangzhou last week, tuesday night in the sauna in Shamian Dao, no problem, cute girl and nice service as usual.
[QUOTE=Big Tom]Is there a Chinese alternative to V & C? Herbal or ???
Can't find anything online, but then I don't read Chinese.[/QUOTE]
PM to Ira Johnson. He had some fake "C" that worked well for me
ES
Hi all
Found this place in Baiyang Lu.
Directions: When you come out of Longyang Lu Metro, turn right on Baiyang Lu (you need to cross the flyover), then cross Metro (to your right) and take the first left. This is the third Spa after a normal spa and a foot massage spa.
I went there on Sunday night and the rates were 380 kuai for 60 min and 480 kuai for 80 min. I asked for "Special Ma Sa ji" and was presented 3 girls, one by one. Chose the first one and had a good time-- may be because I was too drunk. All in all, the girl was sweet, tried multiple positions and ended in mish. She even allowed me to kiss on her lips,
Went there again today to repeat her. Receptionist recognized me but told me something to the effect that yesterdays girl was not available / having her period (I guess). Was presented another girl but I didn't like her so returned back. Loaded
Went to Golden 18 Club sauna located at the corner of Nanjing Xi Lu and Wulumuqi Bei Lu at around 12:00 AM. I change into pajamas and get led into this room where I sit on a big reclining couch with my feet up, smoking a cig and sipping on tea. Five minutes later, a parade of 10 girls in lingerie walk in and this is what the mommy refers to as the "fish tank". I pick #57 a 22 yr old girl from Chongqing, Sichuan about 5'3 with a super curvy body and C cups with a round backside.
The girl then leads me into a hallway with lots of private rooms. The room is divided into 2 sections. One section is a big king sized round bed in red. The walls and ceiling are all mirrors. The other part of the room is a big shower.
My girl strips me down and then a 2nd girl comes in. I'm wondering at this point, what is going on b/c I didn't pick 2 girls. The other girl tells me the mommy arranged her to also help me shower. They sit me down on this bench which is open in the middle with two soft pads holding my each butt cheek spreading my asshole.
They proceed to shower me and get my sparkling clean and also washing each other while I watch. Then my girl gets down and starts blowing me in the shower while the other girl continues to shower me. This eventually turns into me sucking one girls tits while the other continues to blow. When the shower was done, the 2nd girl leaves. My girl then gets an air mattress and places it in the shower. She covers it with plastic cover and has me lay down. My girl then licks me from head to toe not an inch spared. Then turns me over and licks my back side all over, again, not an inch spared. Then she takes a basket of hot oil and pours it over herself and I and rubs me with her tits all over my front and over my back no inch spared. This then turns into a tittie fuck and she had a nice ass pair of tits. Then she uses her ass and again rubs me all over. When this is done, she washes the oil off both of us and dries me off. She takes me to the bed and tells me to lay face down. She gets hot water, sucks it in her mouth, then with the water in her mouth, goes again up and down my body licking me at every place. Flips me over, and does it again on my front side.
Now finally, the good part (as if the first part wasn't enough, at this point, I was expecting the most amazing sex of my life). She goes to get another cup of hot water and a cup of cold water and does some serious fire and ice blowjob. 15 min later, she gets this lotion and puts it on me and blows me again for 15 min. Finally she asks, are you ready?
Out comes the protection and off we go for the next hour straight in every position possible. I made a point to do it everyway just so I can watch myself in the mirrors on the wall and while laying down staring at the mirror on the ceiling.
When it was over we just laid there for awhile and stared at ourselves in the ceiling mirror. She then took me to the shower and washed me off and I washed her. We change, both smoke a cig, and talk about life. She dresses me and I dress her and she sends me off the relaxation area where both of my friends were already waiting there. We kicked it for 30 min, watching TV in a private room with our feet up on reclining chairs, drinking tea, and smoking Mild Sevens.
All together, it was 890 RMB (100 for the VIP card which can be used for a 100 RMB discount in the future). A bit more expensive than other places but definitely worth every Mao.
The next day I go back again around 8:30 PM and I decided to get 2 girls. Picked #57 again and another girl who's number I don't remember. Went to the Japanese room which I thought wasn't as nice as the regular room. Did the whole wash thing again but this time the whole routine was with two girls. Each girl had their own costume. One had a kimono while another had a nurse uniform. They also bring their own vibrators. Figured I'd have some fun and enjoy a good show so I shove both vibrators in each girl. This really got them going! Apparently #57 never used hers before and she really went nuts. The other girl begged me to fuck her but I wasn't going to let them off that easy. With the vibrators firmly in place, I go and grab a smoke and watch for a bit.
When I was done with my smoke, I went missionary on one girl while playing with the other girls tits. Then we switch and I have #57 going cowgirl while fondling the other chick. Then I had both girls on doggie positions and switched back and forth. Eventually I bust and we go back to the showers again. We get dressed and one of the girls leaves. The other girl, #57 stays and we light up a smoke and lay on the bed for a bit.
I get up to leave but one of the waiters there immediately tells me to get into one of the waiting rooms quickly. I started worrying a bit and asked him if it's the cops. He says yes so I got my ass in the room ASAP. About 20 minutes later the waiter comes back and says it's ok and I can leave again. I didn't hear any loud shouting or footsteps when I was in the room so I'm guessing they paid them off. The guy also said that they're all old friends with those cops so it's no problem. Lady at the front desk also confirmed the same thing and said it will be business as usual.
All together it was 1, 380 RMB (790 for the 1st girl with the VIP card and 590 for the second girl). One of my favorite saunas in Shanghai.
#57 was a 9/10 in my book. Attached are some pictures of the Japanese room. I took the pics at the beginning when the girls stepped out to tell the front desk which room we're using.
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[QUOTE=Big Tom]Is there a Chinese alternative to V & C? Herbal or?
Can't find anything online, but then I don't read Chinese.[/QUOTE]V & C are readily available, as others have said.
Chinese medicine is also effective in this regard. I was in the No 1 Pharmacy on Nanjing Lu the other day, and they have a selection there. Go up to the third (perhaps 4th? ) floor and head behind the escalator, where there is a curtained off counter selling vibrators, condoms and herbal V.
They have some on offer for 96 CNY for 5 plus 2 free, although there are various brands. I have not tried these. Let us know how you get on!
E.
[QUOTE=Chaatu]Hi all
Found this place in Baiyang Lu.
Directions: When you come out of Longyang Lu Metro, turn right on Baiyang Lu (you need to cross the flyover), then cross Metro (to your right) and take the first left. This is the third Spa after a normal spa and a foot massage spa.[/quote]Is this place on Baiyang Lu itself or a side street? Do you remember the exit, this station has four exits so would be nice if you could be more specific.
Thanks in advance,
Charlie.
[QUOTE=Charlie Shanghai]Is this place on Baiyang Lu itself or a side street? Do you remember the exit, this station has four exits so would be nice if you could be more specific.
Thanks in advance,
Charlie.[/QUOTE]It's near exit #5. I was there a few years back and found it based on another post from 2007 (thanks Nightwing! ). It's not as modern and nice as the usual places in SH like Sacrosa or Heting, but it was still decent fun. It is not directly on Baiyang or Longhui Road. When you get to the intersection of Baiyang/Longhui, there's a building on the southwest corner. Walk to the rear of this building and you'll see another building. That's the one. Check it out on Google Maps (satellite view) to see what I mean.
[url]http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=669407&highlight=baiyang#post669407[/url]
Apparently there are also BBSs in the area nearby:
[url]http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=647221&highlight=baiyang#post647221[/url]
[url]http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=647140&highlight=baiyang#post647140[/url]
If you're going to that area and try them out, please post, since it's been a while since I've heard about that area!
[QUOTE=Cold Fire]It's near exit #5. I was there a few years back and found it based on another post from 2007 (thanks Nightwing! ). It's not as modern and nice as the usual places in SH like Sacrosa or Heting, but it was still decent fun. It is not directly on Baiyang or Longhui Road. When you get to the intersection of Baiyang/Longhui, there's a building on the southwest corner. Walk to the rear of this building and you'll see another building. That's the one. Check it out on Google Maps (satellite view) to see what I mean.
[url]http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=669407&highlight=baiyang#post669407[/url]
Apparently there are also BBSs in the area nearby:
[url]http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=647221&highlight=baiyang#post647221[/url]
[url]http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=647140&highlight=baiyang#post647140[/url]
If you're going to that area and try them out, please post, since it's been a while since I've heard about that area![/QUOTE]Yes, cross Longyang Lu, and walk along Baiyang Lu past Metro, which will be on your right. Then you need to turn left on Yinghua Lu. This place provides a friendly service in an ok environment.
There are also a couple of BBS offering FS a few steps further down the road. Most of the massage spas (there are quite a few) in the area provide oil massage with HJ, but no more.
[QUOTE=Eagle88]V & C are readily available, as others have said.
Chinese medicine is also effective in this regard. I was in the No 1 Pharmacy on Nanjing Lu the other day, and they have a selection there. Go up to the third (perhaps 4th? ) floor and head behind the escalator, where there is a curtained off counter selling vibrators, condoms and herbal V.
They have some on offer for 96 CNY for 5 plus 2 free, although there are various brands. I have not tried these. Let us know how you get on!
E.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I will be in shanghai next week and will check it out.
[QUOTE=Eagle88]Yes, cross Longyang Lu, and walk along Baiyang Lu past Metro, which will be on your right. Then you need to turn left on Yinghua Lu. This place provides a friendly service in an ok environment.
There are also a couple of BBS offering FS a few steps further down the road. Most of the massage spas (there are quite a few) in the area provide oil massage with HJ, but no more.[/QUOTE]Hmm, I think we might be talking about different places. The place I'm talking about was south of Longyang Rd. It was a sauna place and had at least 4 floors. I've enclosed a map. If you guys have found places on Yinghua Rd or Dujuan Rd then reports would be most appreciated. I have also not been to the place marked on the map (the one that Nightwing mentioned) in over a year. I wonder if it still around.
I read all the reports on 999 and never ran across one that said anything about lousy service. I went this afternoon with great hope. Shot down.- picked 903, looker, good body. In the room never got to a soapy.- unless you call sitting on the chair and having your back and butt washed and rinsed a soapy. On to the bed.- a little massage and a flip. I was interested in tasting some sugar but she wasn't into that. A little BBBJ then to a cover. Couldn't get it in. I carry ky lub still couldn't get it in. Just bumped the outside. Offered to open her up with a 2/3 fingers. Nope. Called up front. Would I settle for a blow job. Nope. A hand job. Nope. I came for some pussy. Would I pay another 400 for another girl. Nope. Led to the front desk.- no shower on the way out.
They wanted the full 640. Nope. I offered 200. They refused. Got the manager. Still 500. Called the guy they called the owner. I threw 500 on the desk and left. Worst experience in Shanghai in 10 months.
Merrylin. Sarcosa, Heiting seldom a problem. Sarcosa has only charged me for the sauna after poor service.
I wonder if any others had a similiar experience at 999 but never wrote up a report. And guys.- I'm not that big. Next time you are with a girl grab her wrist where she would have a watch. How does it compare?
999 nice surroundings. Maybe everyone else has superb service. I got squat.
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That was simply bad luck Waldeck. #903 was I guess 1 out of 100 not providing the service at 999. Been there many many times, and each time is from good to perfect.
Try 800, 825, 853, 870 or 911 next time. You wont be disappointed.
However, now I try to avoid saunas. LE is too tricky to me after my last experience being locked up in Wuzhong Lu sauna for 30 min. Phoned with other girls from several sauna places and they mention LE shows up very frequent now... often without a catch, but still...
[QUOTE=Waldeck2]I read all the reports on 999 and never ran across one that said anything about lousy service. I went this afternoon with great hope. Shot down.- picked 903, looker, good body.
I wonder if any others had a similiar experience at 999 but never wrote up a report. And guys.- I'm not that big. Next time you are with a girl grab her wrist where she would have a watch. How does it compare?
999 nice surroundings. Maybe everyone else has superb service. I got squat.
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Have been mongering for sometime, but havent posted. Seeing all the good reports on club 18 thought will give it a try. Went to junction of NANJING XI LU and WULLUMUQI BEI LU at 1400. Wandered around for 30mins but couldnt find Club 18.
There was only one "mall style" building and there wasnt any massage sign on any floor.
- Has it been shut down?
- Does it have any signs facing the street in english?
- Anybody has a phone number so that one can call and take directions.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Garam Dharam]Have been mongering for sometime, but havent posted. Seeing all the good reports on club 18 thought will give it a try. Went to junction of NANJING XI LU and WULLUMUQI BEI LU at 1400. Wandered around for 30mins but couldnt find Club 18.
There was only one "mall style" building and there wasnt any massage sign on any floor.
- Has it been shut down?
- Does it have any signs facing the street in english?
- Anybody has a phone number so that one can call and take directions.
Thanks[/QUOTE]I think it might be known under another name, "JJ's", according to this post:
[url]http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=878614&postcount=573[/url]
The address of 209 North Wulumuqi (5th floor) would put it right around 300 m north of the Nanjing West Rd and North Wulumuqi Road intersection.
It sounds like the same place. Can anyone confirm?
Hey Guys,
I was wondering is there are any guys who would love to join in for some action? I am planning to get some girls to my hotel room and it turns me on to see them getting done by another guy. I am into gals only but sharing a girl (with proper protection of course) would be fun or me watching you and the girl. I would take care of all payments. Anyone up for that? I will be looking to get some action going between 17th and 19th of August. PM me at [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue].
On a different note, does anyone know where to find girls (OL style) who wear sexy stockings and high heels? Will of course report back (without names or other references) after my trip ;-)
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xiamen: thanks for the great report - will be trying to visit golden 18 during my next trip to shanghai. could anyone confirm if i have the right address (in google maps)
[url]http://maps.google.se/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=sv&geocode=&q=shanghai&sll=61.606396,21.225586&sspn=34.21942,134.912109&ie=utf8&ll=31.22177,121.443129&spn=0.003642,0.008234&z=18[/url]
what does the enterance look like, are there any signs - or any other landmark so i know i'm in the right place?
and finally, i don't speek mandarin/cantonese - will i manage on english?
thanks in advance!
[quote=xiamen]went to golden 18 club sauna located at the corner of nanjing xi lu and wulumuqi bei lu at around 12:00 am. i change into pajamas and get led into this room where i sit on a big reclining couch with my feet up, smoking a cig and sipping on tea. five minutes later, a parade of 10 girls in lingerie walk in and this is what the mommy refers to as the "fish tank". i pick #57 a 22 yr old girl from chongqing, sichuan about 5'3 with a super curvy body and c cups with a round backside.
the girl then leads me into a hallway with lots of private rooms. the room is divided into 2 sections. one section is a big king sized round bed in red. the walls and ceiling are all mirrors. the other part of the room is a big shower.
my girl strips me down and then a 2nd girl comes in. i'm wondering at this point, what is going on b/c i didn't pick 2 girls. the other girl tells me the mommy arranged her to also help me shower. they sit me down on this bench which is open in the middle with two soft pads holding my each butt cheek spreading my asshole.
they proceed to shower me and get my sparkling clean and also washing each other while i watch. then my girl gets down and starts blowing me in the shower while the other girl continues to shower me. this eventually turns into me sucking one girls tits while the other continues to blow. when the shower was done, the 2nd girl leaves. my girl then gets an air mattress and places it in the shower. she covers it with plastic cover and has me lay down. my girl then licks me from head to toe not an inch spared. then turns me over and licks my back side all over, again, not an inch spared. then she takes a basket of hot oil and pours it over herself and i and rubs me with her tits all over my front and over my back no inch spared. this then turns into a tittie fuck and she had a nice ass pair of tits. then she uses her ass and again rubs me all over. when this is done, she washes the oil off both of us and dries me off. she takes me to the bed and tells me to lay face down. she gets hot water, sucks it in her mouth, then with the water in her mouth, goes again up and down my body licking me at every place. flips me over, and does it again on my front side.
now finally, the good part (as if the first part wasn't enough, at this point, i was expecting the most amazing sex of my life). she goes to get another cup of hot water and a cup of cold water and does some serious fire and ice blowjob. 15 min later, she gets this lotion and puts it on me and blows me again for 15 min. finally she asks, are you ready?
out comes the protection and off we go for the next hour straight in every position possible. i made a point to do it everyway just so i can watch myself in the mirrors on the wall and while laying down staring at the mirror on the ceiling.
when it was over we just laid there for awhile and stared at ourselves in the ceiling mirror. she then took me to the shower and washed me off and i washed her. we change, both smoke a cig, and talk about life. she dresses me and i dress her and she sends me off the relaxation area where both of my friends were already waiting there. we kicked it for 30 min, watching tv in a private room with our feet up on reclining chairs, drinking tea, and smoking mild sevens.
all together, it was 890 rmb (100 for the vip card which can be used for a 100 rmb discount in the future). a bit more expensive than other places but definitely worth every mao.
the next day i go back again around 8:30 pm and i decided to get 2 girls. picked #57 again and another girl who's number i don't remember. went to the japanese room which i thought wasn't as nice as the regular room. did the whole wash thing again but this time the whole routine was with two girls. each girl had their own costume. one had a kimono while another had a nurse uniform. they also bring their own vibrators. figured i'd have some fun and enjoy a good show so i shove both vibrators in each girl. this really got them going! apparently #57 never used hers before and she really went nuts. the other girl begged me to fuck her but i wasn't going to let them off that easy. with the vibrators firmly in place, i go and grab a smoke and watch for a bit.
when i was done with my smoke, i went missionary on one girl while playing with the other girls tits. then we switch and i have #57 going cowgirl while fondling the other chick. then i had both girls on doggie positions and switched back and forth. eventually i bust and we go back to the showers again. we get dressed and one of the girls leaves. the other girl, #57 stays and we light up a smoke and lay on the bed for a bit.
i get up to leave but one of the waiters there immediately tells me to get into one of the waiting rooms quickly. i started worrying a bit and asked him if it's the cops. he says yes so i got my ass in the room asap. about 20 minutes later the waiter comes back and says it's ok and i can leave again. i didn't hear any loud shouting or footsteps when i was in the room so i'm guessing they paid them off. the guy also said that they're all old friends with those cops so it's no problem. lady at the front desk also confirmed the same thing and said it will be business as usual.
all together it was 1, 380 rmb (790 for the 1st girl with the vip card and 590 for the second girl). one of my favorite saunas in shanghai.
#57 was a 9/10 in my book. attached are some pictures of the japanese room. i took the pics at the beginning when the girls stepped out to tell the front desk which room we're using.
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Hi,
I seems like shanghai is not safe at the moment, but i wonder if anyone of you know this saunas behind the Yaohan at Pudong? I am not sure if it is affected also?
[QUOTE=Cold Fire]I think it might be known under another name, "JJ's", according to this post:
[url]http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=878614&postcount=573[/url]
The address of 209 North Wulumuqi (5th floor) would put it right around 300 m north of the Nanjing West Rd and North Wulumuqi Road intersection.
It sounds like the same place. Can anyone confirm?[/QUOTE]Yes, this is all the same place. The official name, according to the card I have is "Golden 18 Club" (金十八会所). The entrance is on the east side of Wulumuqi North Road (乌鲁木齐北路), between Nanjing West Road (南京西路) and Beijing West Road (北京西路). So, in coming from the Jing'an Temple Subway Station (Line 2), walk west along Nanjing West Road, turn right at Wulumuqi North Road, and the entrance is about 100 meters or so up the street on your right.
How will you know you have arrived? Easy. Facing the entrance to the building, there is a bank of ATMs on the left of the door. (Handy for getting your 900 RMB to pay for the services.) The wall inside the building is white, and there are gold letters with "Golden 18 Club" written in both English and Chinese. Still not enough for you? There should be a guy sitting there by the door who will lead you into the glass elevator to the right of the entrance, and press the button for the 5th floor.
Still confused? Well, point your browser to ditu.google.com, and enter in the following string of Chinese characters representing the club's address:
上海市静安区乌鲁木齐北路209号
Not that you asked, but since I was there last week, I'll give a brief report. Was there on the weekend around 10:00 pm Led to the elevator, walked right in to the changing area. Put on the fancy, stylish, gold-embroidered pajamas, and led to the fishbowl. Nice selection of girls, must have been more than 20 dressed in different costumes. I picked a cute girl, #30, from Hubei.
From there you're led right into the massage room, which consists of a large round bed, shower area, and TV showing Asian-centric adult entertainment. Nice! Clothes are discarded quickly, and you are washed up, down, sideways, horizontally, vertically by the girl with various parts of her smooth body. When I first got in the room, it was really hot, and I asked her to turn on the AC. Mistake. It gets cold in the shower area, so I don't suggest doing that. Eventually, once you are cleaner than you've ever been, you're led to the big round bed. More massage, AR, BBBJ, and then full service.
I talked to the girl a bit afterwords about the police crackdowns. She said it has become a bigger issue. But not to worry, as there is good relationship with the owner. Anyway, I couldn't get all of it, since my Chinese isn't that great. Use caution, but this place might be okay. She also said that during the week it is mostly Chinese who are "working overtime", and the weekends has more foreigners.
I think the damage is 850 RMB, but you can get a VIP card, which will make subsequent visits 790 RMB. I had been once before many months ago, but didn't have the card on me. I also couldn't remember my number, but the cashier gave me the benefit of the doubt, and charged me 790. Nice service, I think. Professional place. Enjoy.
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[QUOTE=Chinavisit09]Hey Guys,
I was wondering is there are any guys who would love to join in for some action? I am planning to get some girls to my hotel room and it turns me on to see them getting done by another guy. I am into gals only but sharing a girl (with proper protection of course) would be fun or me watching you and the girl. I would take care of all payments. Anyone up for that? I will be looking to get some action going between 17th and 19th of August. PM me at [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue].
On a different note, does anyone know where to find girls (OL style) who wear sexy stockings and high heels? Will of course report back (without names or other references) after my trip ;-)
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You're SERIOUS?? First time poster and proposing what I consider an outrageous offer? What are you? L.E.? Wanting to set somebody up?
OK OK OK, if you're NOT any of the above, then I certainly would caution against you actually going ahead with anybody who does contact you to take up your "offer." I would imagine that anybody that desperate to take it up would also be desperate enough to set you up.
Most people that are in China - considering the expenses of getting here - would have enough resources to pay for their own gal without having to resort to becoming the star of somebody else's fetish.
And let me tell you, Chinese gals are not USUALLY into fetishes.
IMHO
SEAJ
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]
And let me tell you, Chinese gals are not USUALLY into fetishes.
IMHO
SEAJ[/QUOTE]
No, not usually, but it's a creeping trend with young people in Shanghai.
[QUOTE=Lustforthrust]No, not usually, but it's a creeping trend with young people in Shanghai.[/QUOTE]Did you take those yourself?
If so, perhaps you can write a report on the mongering?
[QUOTE=Tappyttt]Hi,
I seems like Shanghai is not safe at the moment, but i wonder if anyone of you know this saunas behind the Yaohan at Pudong? I am not sure if it is affected also?[/QUOTE]Nope, never heard of it, I'm sure none of us have heard of it!
ID
I am a fellow mongerer just like you, no idea what issue you have with that. And, some people derive fun to have a go as a group, I am not suggesting you have to do it in secret or have something to hide possibly, but please respect everyone is different.
I am aware girls here are less into sexy outfits and fetishes than, for example Japanese girls. But thats not the point, right? I am simply looking for like minded people or someone who can point me to girls who wear sexier outfits than the average look of the college student in a street bar.
Thanks though, for responding.
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]You're SERIOUS?? First time poster and proposing what I consider an outrageous offer? What are you? L.E.? Wanting to set somebody up?
OK OK OK, if you're NOT any of the above, then I certainly would caution against you actually going ahead with anybody who does contact you to take up your "offer." I would imagine that anybody that desperate to take it up would also be desperate enough to set you up.
Most people that are in China - considering the expenses of getting here - would have enough resources to pay for their own gal without having to resort to becoming the star of somebody else's fetish.
And let me tell you, Chinese gals are not USUALLY into fetishes.
IMHO
SEAJ[/QUOTE]
Priceless post.
Thanks, now if I could be the guy going about the one with the pantyhose on.
[QUOTE=Lustforthrust]No, not usually, but it's a creeping trend with young people in Shanghai.[/QUOTE]
Whatsoever your real character and intention, SEAJ is right in cautioning you to be careful. This is a public forum and we know not everybody is in reality what he pretends to be
You could get yourself into big troubles should LE come to join the party.
[QUOTE=Chinavisit09]I am a fellow mongerer just like you, no idea what issue you have with that. And, some people derive fun to have a go as a group, I am not suggesting you have to do it in secret or have something to hide possibly, but please respect everyone is different.
I am aware girls here are less into sexy outfits and fetishes than, for example Japanese girls. But thats not the point, right? I am simply looking for like minded people or someone who can point me to girls who wear sexier outfits than the average look of the college student in a street bar.
Thanks though, for responding.[/QUOTE]
Fair point and I take that word of advice, thanks to you and SEAJ.
Does anyone know the names of couple bars along the Bund where higher level girls are to be found? Bar Rouge, does it still exist?
[QUOTE=Beijing Fox]Whatsoever your real character and intention, SEAJ is right in cautioning you to be careful. This is a public forum and we know not everybody is in reality what he pretends to be.
You could get yourself into big troubles should LE come to join the party.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Chinavisit09]I am a fellow mongerer just like you, no idea what issue you have with that. And, some people derive fun to have a go as a group, I am not suggesting you have to do it in secret or have something to hide possibly, but please respect everyone is different. [/QUOTE]
I have no issues with whatever it is that turns you on - more power to you! Respect....respect.... OK? OK?! I was just giving you a friendly nudge that it definitely is NOT a good idea for you to come on a public board as this is and ANNOUNCE what your intentions are whilst in China.
That's the problem with BSD's like you coming over to China - you read and hear about what all goes on here and think that this is a wide open playground for sex; all you need to do is throw your $$$ around and there are gonna be takers begging to get some of it. Well, the reality is that prostitution is still very much illegal here, and the government IS taking steps right now to curtail some of the more outlandish going-ons here - as evidenced by the latest crack downs on both venues as well as activities - even at what one would think as being private premises.
This is NOT Thailand, PI, or some other sex destinations where the sex business is only techinically illegal - but the laws are very rarely applied for economic considerations. China is now rich and getting richer - and the government is very rapidly getting fed up with Foreign sex mongers washing up on their shores, thinking that this is a place where anything goes just as long as they shower their almighty $$ around.
Fine by me if you want to act recklessly, and announce your intentions for one and all to see. Hey, nothing better than a sucker coming over and telling everybody that he's coming - and "...not suggesting you have to do it in secret or have something to hide possibly (so get ready to fleece me!!)....." Yup, do it all in the open and get ready to be fleeced.
And like I said, more power to you - and may your China visit in 09 be a roaring success.
And before you get all upset again and come back on with both gun barrels blazing away - well, here goes - my apologies!! OK?
[QUOTE] Thanks though, for responding.[/QUOTE]
Errrrr..... you're very welcome.....though....
SEAJ
Ps. Why is it that when guys first come on our boards, that they get all uppity right off the bat??!!! Hmmmmm....
Pps. A report on the Indonesian board about what actually happened to a gal - yes even a WG.... in Thailand. [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=914859&postcount=1096[/url]
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]
This is NOT Thailand, PI, Vietnam, Cambodia or some other sex destinations where the sex business is only techinically illegal - but the laws are very rarely applied for economic considerations. [/QUOTE]
I personally find Vietnam to be much more strict on the sex biz than China. I have heard some nasty stories from Vietnam regarding law enforcement there. I have had fun there but it was much more on the down low than here. I agree with you on Thailand and PI plus would add Singapore.
My 2 cents.
Frito
[QUOTE=Fritobugger]I personally find Vietnam to be much more strict on the sex biz than China. I have heard some nasty stories from Vietnam regarding law enforcement there. I have had fun there but it was much more on the down low than here. I agree with you on Thailand and PI plus would add Singapore.
My 2 cents.
Frito[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the heads up!
Have already revised my post and omitted Vietnam and Cambodia - for when I think about it, I DID have a hard time last time I was in Ho Chi Minh city.
I had to resort to doing a gal that was a recommendation (sister!!) of a massage gal in Macau that I was doing - for a very inflated price. That was after I saw all the notices about "prostitution illegal" and "visitors to guest rooms not allowed after 9 pm" and such others plastered all over the Riverside Rennaisance hotel where I was staying at.
This gal was a part timer and got herself up to my room within 10 minutes with no drama at all - which to me was a bit amazing as all those notices sort of freaked me out (That's what I get for NOT RTFF'ing the threads before I got there!!)
SEAJ
I do not live in Shanghai but I wish I did so that I could have the opportunity to party with Chinavisit09 and his ladies. (See pasted quote from him below). I dont find his enjoyment of group sex or sex parties as outlandish or strange. I have been to far few orgies in my life. In any case I have one more reason to visit Shanghai this year. So CHina Visit, please PM me with your contact information in case I can have the pleasure of joining you and sharing a girl or two.
Bobby
Hey Guys,
I was wondering is there are any guys who would love to join in for some action? I am planning to get some girls to my hotel room and it turns me on to see them getting done by another guy. I am into gals only but sharing a girl (with proper protection of course) would be fun or me watching you and the girl. I would take care of all payments. Anyone up for that? I will be looking to get some action going between 17th and 19th of August. PM me at [Email address deleted by Admin]
Respect to your long-standing presence here. I did not intend to attack you. I just found it a bit awkward that while everyone talked openly about massage parlor visits you suddenly related my intentions to police and what have you. By the way, I have been to China a lot of times just not that often to Shanghai and may have lived many more years in Asia than you care to imagine. So, please treat others, new guys on the forum and oldies alike, with the same respect as you want to be treated by others.
All that aside, peace to you and thanks for your advice to be careful. I was not aware whats going on right now in terms of raids, not everyone stops by this forum each day and I have just found it on the net.
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]I have no issues with whatever it is that turns you on - more power to you! Respect....respect.... OK? OK?! I was just giving you a friendly nudge that it definitely is NOT a good idea for you to come on a public board as this is and ANNOUNCE what your intentions are whilst in China.
That's the problem with BSD's like you coming over to China - you read and hear about what all goes on here and think that this is a wide open playground for sex; all you need to do is throw your $$$ around and there are gonna be takers begging to get some of it. Well, the reality is that prostitution is still very much illegal here, and the government IS taking steps right now to curtail some of the more outlandish going-ons here - as evidenced by the latest crack downs on both venues as well as activities - even at what one would think as being private premises.
This is NOT Thailand, PI, or some other sex destinations where the sex business is only techinically illegal - but the laws are very rarely applied for economic considerations. China is now rich and getting richer - and the government is very rapidly getting fed up with Foreign sex mongers washing up on their shores, thinking that this is a place where anything goes just as long as they shower their almighty $$ around.
Fine by me if you want to act recklessly, and announce your intentions for one and all to see. Hey, nothing better than a sucker coming over and telling everybody that he's coming - and "...not suggesting you have to do it in secret or have something to hide possibly (so get ready to fleece me!!)....." Yup, do it all in the open and get ready to be fleeced.
And like I said, more power to you - and may your China visit in 09 be a roaring success.
And before you get all upset again and come back on with both gun barrels blazing away - well, here goes - my apologies!! OK?
Errrrr..... you're very welcome.....though....
SEAJ
Ps. Why is it that when guys first come on our boards, that they get all uppity right off the bat??!!! Hmmmmm....
Pps. A report on the Indonesian board about what actually happened to a gal - yes even a WG.... in Thailand. [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=914859&postcount=1096[/url][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Chinavisit09]Hey Guys,
I was wondering is there are any guys who would love to join in for some action? I am planning to get some girls to my hotel room and it turns me on to see them getting done by another guy. I am into gals only but sharing a girl (with proper protection of course) would be fun or me watching you and the girl. I would take care of all payments. Anyone up for that? I will be looking to get some action going between 17th and 19th of August.
[/QUOTE]
I'm up for this. How can we get in touch?
China Visit, It looks like some of us who would enjoy your parties. I am not in Shanghai but if I were, I would be up for some group fun.
[QUOTE=Lustforthrust]I'm up for this. How can we get in touch?[/QUOTE]L4T -- before you "get in touch" please pay attention to Chinavisit09's perfect English with the even "more perfect punctuation." Looks academic to me.
If you do get in touch and it turns out that I am wrong, PM me -- I will pay 200RMB no questions ask when I am in Shanghai...
And Chinavisit09, do not bother to flame -- I do not care.
You could send me a PM then we can arrange for a bar to meet up.
[QUOTE=Lustforthrust]I'm up for this. How can we get in touch?[/QUOTE]
Corner of Jinling Road and Guangxi Road. Entrance on Guangxi Road. Two attendants at street level. I took elevator to 7th floor with attendant beside me all the way, talking on his phone. He walked me down three flights of stairs. Nothing that we would be interested in was shown or offered. Maybe you would need an invite. High class furnishings. Attendant walked me back to the street.
Located at the corner of Jinling Road and Guangxi Road in Puxi. Entrance door on Guangxi Road with two attendants. Walked in, went to the elevator, punched 7. One of the attendants was at my side, talking on the phone. On reaching the 7th floor discovered plush surroundings. Asked if they had any entertainment. Didn't see anything we would interested in on the 7th or the 6th or the 5th floor. Attendant on the phone beside me all the way. Walked back to the elevators and the street and thanked the attendant. Not much in China is what it appears to be. Maybe with a local and an invite something may be available here. Looked classy enough.
[QUOTE=Yuri B]L4T -- before you "get in touch" please pay attention to Chinavisit09's perfect English with the even "more perfect punctuation." Looks academic to me.
If you do get in touch and it turns out that I am wrong, PM me -- I will pay 200RMB no questions ask when I am in Shanghai...
And Chinavisit09, do not bother to flame -- I do not care.[/QUOTE]
Damn, the LE are getting sloppy, writing English like an academic would. They should stick to the usual tenseless English with no plurals, if they really want a sting to be successful. ;)
[QUOTE=Lustforthrust]Damn, the LE are getting sloppy, writing English like an academic would. They should stick to the usual tenseless English with no plurals, if they really want a sting to be successful. ;)[/QUOTE]
Now you guys really gone and done piqued my interest.
You guys gotta report back exactly what went down and if it all lives up to your expectations.
I've said my peace and now i'm just plain ole curious as to what will actually happen next!!
SEAJ
Ps. And also if you manage to collect the RMB200!!
[quote=daimen666]xiamen: thanks for the great report - will be trying to visit golden 18 during my next trip to shanghai. could anyone confirm if i have the right address (in google maps)
[url]http://maps.google.se/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=sv&geocode=&q=shanghai&sll=61.606396,21.225586&sspn=34.21942,134.912109&ie=utf8&ll=31.22177,121.443129&spn=0.003642,0.008234&z=18[/url]
what does the enterance look like, are there any signs - or any other landmark so i know i'm in the right place?
and finally, i don't speek mandarin/cantonese - will i manage on english?
thanks in advance![/quote]damien,
the precise address is: wulumuqi bei lu 209, 5th floor. it's located at the northeast corner of wulumuqi bei lu and nanjing xi lu. if i remember correctly, the sign just says "sauna" in big neon letters. you go through the door on the first floor and you take the elevators on the right directly to the 5th floor where the magic happens.
happy hunting!
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]Now you guys really gone and done piqued my interest.
You guys gotta report back exactly what went down and if it all lives up to your expectations.
I've said my peace and now i'm just plain ole curious as to what will actually happen next!!
SEAJ
Ps. And also if you manage to collect the RMB200!![/QUOTE]
Didn't I read about a certain someone named SEAsia Joe recently having 3 girls, was it? For a birthday celebration.... Hmmm :)
Attractive young lady recommended by the handler. Full hour, all positions covered. Flirty and tight. Standard pricing 550. A perfect Chinese desert.
I just went to a sauna have never been before, quite nice.
Apparently a korean place.
When I had to pick up a girl. Big surprise: I immediately recognize a Girl I did 1 year and a half ago (World PLaza superstar #19 also called song Lin) as she left me with one of the best sex I never had.
We went to the room, she did not recognize me and we went straight to the sex, down on her knees without me asking for anything. Then DFK. Started by her, and there we go for 40 minutes of PSE
As I had some time left, we had discussion and I asked her about what happened. She finally explained to me why she left: She met a customer, a foreigner (wo spoke perfect mandarin), tall and handsome, 25 year old student for which whe immediately fell. She had great experience and started to feel in love. The guy went there only once and told her he did not want to come back as he was afraid to have feelings for her. They did not exchange phone number. She waited a few weeks for him to come back, it did not happened so she quit and regret the job (huh. Now I don't quite understand why she is back! )
She also told me this student gave her the international forum address (told her this is the way he had heard about her).
Well, I'm not a regular poster but as I want to help her, I just throw a botter in the sea in case the "prince" recognizes himself, I told her I would do it.
Apparently she got back a couple of former customers in this new place. The world is small! Ha ha ha
IRC
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Are there someone that know more places like 999? I have been there once and the expierince was really good and I am going back there. I am just in Shanghai for one more week and want to check out some other places as well. Do someone have a list of places like 999? Maybe a smaller place thats cheaper? I heard of saunas some one that have a list of them?
Would be great with a list with prices as well of each place.
Alright, I think thats enough questions for now, thanx in advance for answers.
Cheers
"The world is small! Ha ha ha"
The world is not that small. Could you give a location/address for Kewl please?
Any chance we could get either an address or a distance from where two streets cross?
[QUOTE=Irc Lo]I just went to a sauna have never been before, quite nice.
Apparently a korean place.
When I had to pick up a girl. Big surprise: I immediately recognize a Girl I did 1 year and a half ago (World PLaza superstar #19 also called song Lin) as she left me with one of the best sex I never had.
We went to the room, she did not recognize me and we went straight to the sex, down on her knees without me asking for anything. Then DFK. Started by her, and there we go for 40 minutes of PSE
As I had some time left, we had discussion and I asked her about what happened. She finally explained to me why she left: She met a customer, a foreigner (wo spoke perfect mandarin), tall and handsome, 25 year old student for which whe immediately fell. She had great experience and started to feel in love. The guy went there only once and told her he did not want to come back as he was afraid to have feelings for her. They did not exchange phone number. She waited a few weeks for him to come back, it did not happened so she quit and regret the job (huh. Now I don't quite understand why she is back! )
She also told me this student gave her the international forum address (told her this is the way he had heard about her).
Well, I'm not a regular poster but as I want to help her, I just throw a botter in the sea in case the "prince" recognizes himself, I told her I would do it.
Apparently she got back a couple of former customers in this new place. The world is small! Ha ha ha
IRC
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Hi,
I offer this little bit of news with no guarantee.
My friend, who is resident in Shanghai, advises me that the 2nd floor facility in the Shanghai Hotel has re-opened after a period closed for 'refurbishment'.
I'd be interested to hear any corroborating evidence.
SK
Guys,
What does it mean when the woman has a red string around her waist? I see several of these in the photo gallery.
By the way, although I stay away from Craig's List, I've had success with a girl who posts infrequently and says that she can't speak any English and that her friend is writing the post. She's legit, a good lay, and has great boobs.
Irc Lo,
Can you tell us where this place is?
I tried to pm you, but it is apparently still not possible.
Thanks!
Levitian
Hey, Irc Lo,
Wasn't it you who initiated the rumors of Song Lin being HIV positive here in this threat, a couple of years ago?
Mate, I can tell you, you really did cause some serious trouble and panic with this action back then. I don't know if Guybert56 is still around or occasionally reading this threat, but I am quite sure he easily would second my words here.
Levitian