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I met up with a Paola outside of Hotel Eduardo that matches the description of a nice tight body with brownish blond curls. She was horrible in bed. She kept on moving when I tried to do my thrustmaster. She kept her knees down and legs straight which made it almost impossible. She also kept asking for more money. For now, I'll stick to Virginia (Hotel Eduardo) and Renata (police station).
Last night I found a chica standing in the corner of Constitucion and Coahuila where the ice cream place is. As she looks totally different to an SG I walked closer and she offered me a massage. I explained her I don't like massages but could happily take a sex time... and to El Monito Hotel we went.
Her name is Priscilla, from Guadalajara, around 25 years old, with a nice body even with a recent baby.
She gave me a nice enough bbbj and then offered me a 69... I have to confess that she taste great and her ass smell so clean. We fucked in doggie first, then missionary and then with her on top. Her shaved pussy, the shape of her body and the body moves made me finish great.
As I was cleaning my dick, she asked me: Do you like anal sex? I said, Yes! And then she said: Why you didn't ask for it? And I sincerely answered that I had a good time with what she gave me.
Said she's working at Chicago but latelly is spending more time working outside and taking care of her newspaper massage ad.
Oh yes... next time I will fuck her ass. That's for sure. She gave me her cell number, so I will call her soon... very soon.
bbbj - 7
sex - 9
body- 8
clean- 10
price- 40
TJNightwalker,
Good report. What does Priscilla look like and what time does she work at CC?
You must have caught her on a bad night. Negotiate *exactly* what you want and for how much *before* you go up.
She performed as negotiated with me both times. I had her legs up, holding her ankles, then pinning her knees back and pounded her very hard. I started slow and gentle and worked into it with her. She was so hot I got a little carried away.
I kept asking her if she was okay and she kept saying si. It did seem to hurt her but she was a trooper. There were a couple of very tiny drops of bright red blood on the condom. It didn’t look like darker period blood, again very, very little.
She is small and gave me the “grande”, (yeah right whatever) when I took it out and seemed like she was going to try to regulate it but as we got into it she let go. Although the look on her face towards the end worried me she kept right on going.
Maybe she is tired of getting pounded so hard by us mongers.
The second time that night I was with her she worked it very hard with her hand. Maybe it was a retaliatory measure.
I’m just glad to she that she is still around, albeit maybe a little jaded, (who could blame her?).
[QUOTE=Gropinator]What does Priscilla look like and what time does she work at CC?[/QUOTE]
Said that lately and as she must take care of the baby, she's taking care of the newspaper calls or standing in the corner of Constitucion and Coahuila.
How she looks like? Damn, let me think. She's slim, small face, just a line instead of eyebrows, nice body, tanned skin, very different in look and clothes to the SGs.
Found her in the corner at 6 pm.
On 1/4 I did my walk around and into AB. Also did HK because it was the only place with dancing at the time. I was unimpressed with the talent, except for one in AB, but she was being taken care of. So before heading back I talked to Brenda. She's 5 foot 5/7 I don't know. Long straight dark hair, with a cute soft smile. We talked price, and for 25 I got a CBJ and mish. Most of the times they always said an extra 20 for CBJ so I always save my cash. Her skills were O.K, but her attitude was great and I recommend her. She was just East of HK and by herself. Nice girl and always was smiling.
I could almost just write, “see my last report” and leave it at that because this trip was almost exactly the same as my last. Made the rounds, looked for Paola, got with Susie and went home. Not to say I didn’t have a good time but I have fallen into a bit of a rut.
I asked the girls in front of Eduardo if they had seen Paola. One said that she had gone home. I thanked her and started to walk away. She asked for a tip for her coffee. I told her that I would give her the whole thing, (once it cooled of course). She didn’t get it and I gave her two bucks for her time. Maybe it will build a little good will for me, whatever.
Susie looked good as always, cooperated well, performed adequately, went down pretty far on the CBJ and put on the porn channel. Not bad for such a dead night.
Sent you a PM about Priscilla.
Does she have black curly hair?
SDC
What do you mean soon?
Yes, I am deeply in lust with her. In fact I would thank you to stop talking about her and saying those things to her, I’m getting jealous. <JK>
Has anyone else tried Susie? She seems like a city girl, light skin, refined features. She wears little pink low rise shorts, tall white platform boots, young, thin, long blonde curly hair, great body, nice face. She stands in front of La Cascadas, I think.
I think the Eduardo is right across from La Cascadas. I don’t know if I have them right but I think the Eduardo is near the middle of the block on the opposite side of HK, that is where I met Paola. I could be wrong about both hotel names. La Cascadas is nicer and the Eduardo is a real dump.
The border agent asked me the purpose of my trip was. That was a first for me, I stammered, “ uhh…clubs”. I think he knew what I meant.
[QUOTE=SDcruiser]Sent you a PM about Priscilla.
Does she have black curly hair?
SDC[/QUOTE]
Sorry about my late reply, but now you have it.
Yes, that's the same girl...
Have a safe fun in TJ... but let us know your experience man...!
Guys, some girls will give you a different experience than to others and will depend in how close, how much you pay and how many times you repeat with her. My experience is open for others to know, but I expect they will have their own experience and then we can share the info and make the data to grow up.
Jacqueline (Najera Hotel) is wonderful with me, a GFE, also Karla (Araceli neighbor), Nayeli, Sandra and even Ithary, but many others have different opinions and sometimes bad moments with same girls.
Is good to let everyone know how was your time with a girl, but in somebody else experience with the same girl do not expect to read the same that you lived with her. Be open, learn and practice; or be open, share and have patience.
Hi,
I was wondering if I could get Priscilla's cell number from you?
[QUOTE=TJnightwalker]Last night I found a chica standing in the corner of Constitucion and Coahuila where the ice cream place is. As she looks totally different to an SG I walked closer and she offered me a massage. I explained her I don't like massages but could happily take a sex time... and to El Monito Hotel we went.
Her name is Priscilla, from Guadalajara, around 25 years old, with a nice body even with a recent baby.
She gave me a nice enough bbbj and then offered me a 69... I have to confess that she taste great and her ass smell so clean. We fucked in doggie first, then missionary and then with her on top. Her shaved pussy, the shape of her body and the body moves made me finish great.
As I was cleaning my dick, she asked me: Do you like anal sex? I said, Yes! And then she said: Why you didn't ask for it? And I sincerely answered that I had a good time with what she gave me.
Said she's working at Chicago but latelly is spending more time working outside and taking care of her newspaper massage ad.
Oh yes... next time I will fuck her ass. That's for sure. She gave me her cell number, so I will call her soon... very soon.
bbbj - 7
sex - 9
body- 8
clean- 10
price- 40[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Honeyboy]Hi,
I was wondering if I could get Priscilla's cell number from you?[/QUOTE]
Check your inbox...
Hey... don't call her today or you will disturb us!
About Face
I have been known to do an about face when I run into a lady that doesn't fit the bill once she takes off the clothes. When I see that she does not look to hot, I say that I am not interested. She will normally look confused and maybe even ask why? I say that I am not in to it. No like, no like, ok, I go now...it has only happened a couple of times, and only with street girls. If she just throws up her hands and starts to get dressed I bail. If she gets angry, then I offer some part of the $20. If she says ok to ten bucks, then I hand it over and get the hell out. P4P is a pleasure thing, and I do not want to suffer through a bad situation.
My last trip down, this happened to me. I choose a young brown skinned morena down just past the Hong Kong. She had a fresh face, and nice body. She looked a little soft, like she had a little baby fat on her, but nice and thick. We got to the room and she walks over to the toilet pulled down her pants and started to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url]. It sounded like it just fell through with touching the walls. I sat there thinking "what the hell". She then came out and said that she just had a bady. This all took place within 3 minutes of getting in the room.
I started to back pedal at that point. She asked for the money upfront which was my out. I said "money up front" like I was surprised. She then said, "you have never paid upfront b4"? I responded "no". I then explained that I was no longer interested. "Mira, ya no estoy interesado", and I started to look at the door, she said ," ok, deja la puerta abieto". I then left.
My point is that we can play the game also to minimize our dissatisfaction, and loss of money for bad pun. I do not make this a habit. But, if I am disscusted, and I have been. I do not just forge ahead, I go to my contingency.
I wanted to add, that I realize that hind sight is 20/20.
I do not always come out of every situation with perfect results, the board does help. Combining my experience with the others on the board has been extremely usefull in helping me to address some of the things that do pop up from time to time.
OWL, same thing happened to me yesterday night...
At the zona streets full of fog and freezing winds there was just a bunch of frozen chicas. I saw a new SG outside Londres Sports Bar, with nice legs and face from the distance. I walked closer and decided to spend 15 minutes of whatever... to the room we went.
God... my worst decision! Flat from back and front... but with a big and hanging stomach... I tried missionary with my half erected dick... asked for doggie and the shit smell just said the last words. I am out of here!
Not her fault, maybe, as her attitude is great, a sincere smile and very concerned about my "no puedo mas" that even offered more time for free just to make me finish... but there are times where is simply enough.
Thurs. night was a weird cold foggy night. The ally still had some girls that were willing to stand with shorts or short skirts with jackets.
Susie was out and looking good in her shorts but I took a pass. I ended up at AD and had a time similar to Tj N W and One Wing, not nearly as bad though. I guess I’ll post my misfortune over on the AD board.
Where the fuck has Paola been? Does she go home very early?
I've got a question for you guys. What do you do when the chicas grab onto your sleeve? It would be an easy answer, if it was a guy doing the grabbing. But I can see all kinds of problems with guys and cops trying to rescue these fair maidens, however I try to get my arm back.
Hmmmm. Maybe if I could protect myself with a can of Silly String?
What do you guys do when a chica grabs your clothes and won't let go? You can't hit her! So, what do you do?
[quote=another dave]i've got a question for you guys. what do you do when the chicas grab onto your sleeve? it would be an easy answer, if it was a guy doing the grabbing. but i can see all kinds of problems with guys and cops trying to rescue these fair maidens, however i try to get my arm back.
[/quote]
... i just keep walking with the same speed or move my arm when her hand is close to catch the sleeve.
some chicas even kick your legs...
i also don't like those chicas playing with an old bubble gum making the annoying cracking noises with their hands...
the grabbing chicas are those who don't have regular customers or those who offer the worst service. either araceli or lupe do not grab sleeves as they don't need it... the customers approach them.
if you are grabbed, just say "sueltame" with a firm voice and looking at her eyes. she will let you go.
My first nut of the day was Aricelli. I have not been with her in about 3 years. She still gives one of the best bbbjtc in Tj. This was a good start to a very unusual day. She used to stand near the corner of the alley and Ninos Heros. Now she stands across from the tortillas store.
I gave her $20 and $3.00 for the hotel. I did give her a $5 tip for good service and for her remembering who I was.
Q
No topic for more bars except Adelitas or Chicago... but I want to recommend you guys the Londres Sports Bar. Nothing related to sports in this bar but I had great times there... mostly with the main attraction from the place, a goddess with ugly teeth named "Alexis".
My god... what a wonderful body in this girl. She must be 25, slim body, black hair cutted as Cleopatra and actually her makeup makes her look as an egipcian. Every curve is in the right place... At show time, her dance on the floor and the tube in the middle of her ass will give you a nice erection.
2 times I've been with her in bed. The first time I couldnt believe when she said 40 + the room. 40??? Thats incredibly cheap for a 9 quality baby!! We walked to a hotel called el ranchero or vaquero, I cannot remember but I paid 20.
Can I explain you my experience with this chica? Well, she fucked me. She's a total GFE even that I didnt kiss her but sucked and licked her breast, pussy, ass and all the rest of her body... we spent more than 30 minutes with her on top and she never lost control of her physical power... just took my hands as support and kept jumping as crazy and I enjoying a delicious smooth and firm body fucking me. I asked twice to change positions but she just ignored me moving faster, but suddenly stand up to gimme her back in a doggie position, a scene as good as a january playmate pic.
I am sure we fucked more than 1 hour. I couldnt walk but she was as fresh as a lettuce! For more than a week I felt pain in my bones!
Great experience. Highly recommended... Tip please! She deserve it.
I went there last saturday and the owner, a beautiful lady, showed me three new girls just arrived from Mazatlan Sinaloa. One of them is ..mmm.. I'll try her in the room soon... maybe tonight.
Where to find the place? Easy. Walk to the west end of the alley, turn left (south) and you will see the bar up there, alone in the western sidewalk...
Beers as the rest of the places around are 2X1X$3.00. They have private rooms in there but never tried the service. Best time recommended is from 7 to 10, as the place is empty of people except the chicas... later is crowded with locals.
Have fun.
If you're planning a trip across the border,plan on waiting about 2 to 3 hours in line to get back. Border agents have really slowed down the process of coming into the US since the latest tunnel discovery.
TJnightwalker,
Thanks for the ncie report
"Thats incredibly cheap for a 9 quality baby! We walked to a hotel called El Ranchero or Vaquero, I cannot remember but I paid 20."
Are you sure the hotel was 20 for an hour and the girl was only 40?
You are sure she was not a TV, TG, TS? their kind hang on that side of the street up further north 50 feet.
Nice job though!
A
cnn report on zona norte and **** prostitutes....
there is a lot of minors in the zona norte and i don't patronize them. it is against the law both us and mexican law to patronize a **** prostitute. it's despicalbe to say the least, but it's really the cops responsibility to arrest those girls who are ****.
personally i prefer sw's in the us, better service and less hassle to cross the border.
i don’t seem to see any **** girls in the main clubs or in the “alley”, the street behind adelitas. i don’t think the cops would let them hang out in front of the main hotels nor would the hotels want the heat. who knows really?
i sure wouldn’t want get caught with a young one in tj, (nor in the us for that matter).
i am wondering if this is an issue that is now surfaceing in tj/mexico because of the "child sex laws", and if so what are men responsible to do? should one ask for the id of each lady he beds, and if she is in possesion of a fake id, how does that affect weather or not someone has broken the law?
i guess in a nut shell, i want to know if the intention of the man has anything to do with weather or not he is breaking the law? if one asks all the right questions and the appearance is that everything is ok, but she is actually **** what happens?
i am a little concerned about this in tj especially, because the police are so corrupt, and if this is a new slant, man watch out. looks like i will be looking for senor citizens in mexico.
personally a young girl is alright, but i like them around 25 to 30. they tend to thicken up when they get older.
[QUOTE=Adventur]Are you sure the hotel was 20 for an hour and the girl was only 40?
You are sure she was not a TV, TG, TS? their kind hang on that side of the street up further north 50 feet.[/QUOTE]
No reason to not be sure... 100% woman, prices are right.
Give a try. Then we can be two with same story.
[quote=double]i am wondering if this is an issue that is now surfaceing in tj/mexico because of the "child sex laws", and if so what are men responsible to do? should one ask for the id of each lady he beds, and if she is in possesion of a fake id, how does that affect weather or not someone has broken the law?
i guess in a nut shell, i want to know if the intention of the man has anything to do with weather or not he is breaking the law? if one asks all the right questions and the appearance is that everything is ok, but she is actually **** what happens?[/quote]personally, i have not seen many **** girls in zona norte working either in the clubs or on the street. the few that seem too young, i strictly avoid.
talking to street girls and club girls, they do say that some of the girls look like minors to them.
the police do check the id of street girls regularly. (see [url]http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=406249#post406249[/url] )
i have asked for their medical inspection id a few times. sometimes they refuse since it shows their real name rather than the bullshit name they use at "work." again, if there's any doubt, just move on to another girl. there's certainly no shortage of legal age chicas.
and certainly your "good intentions" to supposedly avoid a minor will be irrelevant when caught--either here or tj.
Just FYI. Was in TJ on Sunday/Monday and a Street Girl I was with showed me her new medical identification card.
The era of the little paper books with the girls' medical inspection dates stamped and signed by hand is over. They now have a modern hard plastic ID with magnetic stripe. It shows their real name in bold black letters on the front.
I could barely recognize her from the photo. I thought it was because her appearance without tons of makeup and a plain hairstyle is very different than how she looks while working. But the next morning another SG friend showed me hers as well. It seems the camera is giving their faces a long, stretched, distorted appearance. She said they are all a bit upset about it. Lol.
Mike
My latest adventure followed the same pattern as most of my trips. I catch a cab, mill around AD, maybe CC. Then off to HK and to prowl the alley for a hot little chica.
This trip started with a ride in a yellow cab that was a large SUV. That was cool, it had a DVD system and the driver spoke very good English. AD had some good lookin’ chicas but I wanted to look for Paola in the alley. No luck finding her and none of the girls were catching my eye. I tried the massage place across from AD. I went into the bar and it was dead. The guy came up to me and said her would give me a line-up upstairs. The girls were good looking but again, no one caught my eye.
I went back to the alley, still no Paola. I did see a hot little chica that I had seen before. She had a bit of an Asian look about her. She was very petite, with a tight little ass, nice sized tits, and good body overall. I love walking behind her, watching that hot little butt wiggle up the stairs, knowing that I will be hitting that. Last time she said .20 for fuckie-suckie + .10 for sin ropas. I knew I had to go sin ropas since her body was so nice.
This time she wanted .20 +.10 for suckie+.10 for sin ropas. I told her it was .30 last time and tried to negotiate. She would not budge. I thought of walking out but I finally capitulated. (I may have just gotten oral last time though.)
She was all over her cell phone before going up and as the session started but she put it down and left it alone for the rest of the session. It did ring a couple of times but it did not bother me. I just sort of grooved to the ring tone which she thought was funny.
She performs well but makes me lay down for suckie. I like to position girls doggie so that I can see their ass/pussy in the mirror while she sucks. I started to build some resentment towards her. She had a very cunty little ‘tude. I am always very, very nice to the girls but they don’t seem to care. So I said fuck it, I goin’ to plow the shit out of this little puta.
We go to get stared with the fuckie and she starts to lube up my cock. I let her get a little on me and grab her ankles. Before she can get any lube on her self I start to bury my cock into her tight little snatch. She is very tiny. She protests mildly to my advances but I pay her no heed. She doesn’t want me to position her with her legs spread, feet up near my shoulders, but I act oblivious. I am standing while she is lying back on the bed.
I now start to go balls deep. I think I can feel her spleen at this point. She starts to grimace and I find myself not caring at all. After a few minuets I ask if she is okay. She is clearly grimacing but nods yes, like she wants show how tough she is. She now starts to look away. I can feel it banging away at her cervix. The top mattress starts sliding, so I then let go of her ankles and pin her knees back to her shoulders as I press myself onto her with my knees up on the bed to stop it from sliding away from me. I proceed to pound her even deeper. She looks like she is in pain but does not ask me to move or stop. To my suprise, I found myself getting of on it. I didn’t last much longer and busted a huge nut.
I laid there for a second, she was looking away. She seemed to have a tear or two welling up. I got off her and asked if she was okay. She dabbed at her eye and said yes. I stayed as she got dressed and did not act like she was not mad at me at all. Her phone rang again and she pressed her finger against her lips and motioned as to shush me. She spoke very briefly and hung up. I asked why she shushed me and if it was her boyfriend. She said no, it was a friend. I wondered why, if it was a friend, I needed to be quiet. She gave some lame excuse. I went to give her a hug. She seemed a little surprised but reciprocated, albeit a little tentatively. As I walked her back down I offered her my arm, again she seemed surprised. She was not mad at all but became aloof as we approached the street, of course, as they all do.
It was weird to experience this side of myself. I am always so nice and try to be polite, gentle and caring. It’s as if these girls do not know how to receive this kind of treatment. If I go to hug them as I leave they look at me like I am crazy. I guess I am learning to treat them like they expect to be treated. I thought that by treating them nicely they would be more responsive but I guess I need to put aside any illusions of pseudo-romantic overtures and treat them like the little putas that they are.
Talking about phone calls. Yesterday I went to the alley having in mind to fuck Araceli but as she wasn't there I decided to take Nayeli, the little tiny girl located just outside La Carreta.
Naked and ready the fucking phone rang and she answered. I heard the voice from a man asking her "where are you"... she said "working... just starting".
Minutes later I was doggie fucking her when the phone rang again and she moved quickly to answer the fucking call leaving me there with my erected dick without the pussy.
I throw the fucking condom away, dress up and gave her 10 bucks. She said "hey, where's the other 10"... and I told her "ask the 10 to the fucker who is calling you and wasting the time I paid to have you".
Late at night I walked the alley and she was there, looking at the cell phone.
[QUOTE=TJnightwalker]No topic for more bars except Adelitas or Chicago... but I want to recommend you guys the Londres Sports Bar. [/QUOTE]
I suggested a few more threads for the TJ forum. If you guys support this idea, you might chime in here: [thread=339]Suggest New Topics Here[/thread]. I suggested:
1. Hong Kong/Miami
2. Other Clubs
3. Hotels
By the way, here is photo of Sport Bar Londres on Niños de Heroes. I stopped by a couple of Sundays ago, but it was late afternoon and no chicas were on duty yet. Didn't get a chance to return in the evening.
Mike
Hey guys has the ally picked up yet or is it still disappointingly dead?
The last few times over the past 2 months I have been to TJ the Ally has been pretty dead? Has it gotten any better?
Please advise
Thanks!
The zona IMHO is in full swing!
I only know of a few that are not back yet (Teresa at Eduardos, Sylivia at Najera)
Prices are down to normal and I got a CBJ, CG, mish, sin ropa (from Zati, Xati, Pati, ???? de mini) for 20+5. so it is back to buyer's market.
Don't spoil the prices please!
In addition to 11 you pay the Jalos hotel usually charges the girl 3 fincha tickets at the end of the night per arriba or about 9 bucks. Possibly she might have gone up for 40 some 2nd teir gorditas and older uglier girls will be desperate enough to go for 40 and not be upselling and give decent service, especially weeknights before summer.
My last trip to TJ was Sunday Feb 19 / Monday Feb 20. Had a couple poor performers but, here are two memorable encounters with Street Girls, the first was a new conquest, Andrea, and the second with a friend I've known for a while, Lorena
[u]Andrea[/u]
I was in Tijuana and looking for something to do at about 3:00 am Sunday night, actually Monday morning, when I was walking by Hotel Irma near the bottom of the hill on Constitución, and happened upon an attractive brunette chica, who as chance would have it, was also looking for something to do. We struck up a conversation and proceeded to arrange a mutually agreeable barter whereby she would accompany to me my humble sleeping quarters, disrobe entirely, attempt to suck my brains out through my penis and allow me to poke her in numerous configurations for a full hour. In return, I promised to show her love, affection, and my complete devotion for said hour. As a trifling formality, she asked if I could see my way clear to help her with an impending financial obligation to the tune of 500 pesos. The deal was set and we walked hand-in-hand over to my room at Hotel Mini.
Her name was Andrea and, as I favor, a wide-faced, large-eyed, brunette with hair parted down the middle, cut shorter around the face but trailing down to her shoulders in back. She was pretty with little makeup but not gorgeous by any means. She was maybe 5'4". I can't really describe her in a way that would distinguish her from other girls readily found here, but considered her above the average.
In the room and under the covers I like to start an occasion like this by first giving her a BFE (boyfriend experience), that is, to take some time to talk with her and hold her and compliment her. Spending a bit of time this way sets the pace and gives her the chance to respond in kind. She warmed up to this rather nicely, clearly enjoying the flattery and admiration and willingness to treat her like the beautiful woman she is. We begin to caress. She had nice c cup breasts with the brown nipples a women has after child birth, readily bunching up with a little tongue coaxing. She pushed into my fingers as my hand wandered down into her trimmed little pussy and then she spread wide her legs letting me explore her. She had a clean showered, lightly perfumed aroma and I couldn't resist a DATY sampling. She reacts passionately, tell me "mi gusta." I don't know what soap or lotion she had used but she was sweet.
She wouldn't kiss on the mouth, but in my experience it would be nearly unheard of for a Street Girl to allow this. The Street Girls are much more conservative than the Bar Girls. Bless her, she did truly put her heart (and mouth) into sucking Mr. Happy with a fine CBJ. Overall, my session with Andrea was a relaxed and comfortable experience of soft, extended lovemaking. Not terribly passionate, but no faking and no rushing at all. This chica had a great attitude. Our encounter was warm and casual like two new friends. I very much look forward to future sessions with Andrea.
[u]Lorena[/u]
About 10:00 am Monday morning I went down to Cuartos Venecia and saw Lorena out front dressed sexy as usual. I had given her a little Spanish-English dictionary a couple of weeks ago and asked how her English was coming along. She expressed some frustration at the difficulty of learning a second language, and showed me an English lesson she had cut out of the local paper. She's trying to learn.
Lorena is cute as can be, gorgeous, actually. Very short, petite, with long, wavy black hair and a unusually beautiful face with a dimpled smile. She also has great natural breasts. Clearly a 9. Throw an evening gown on her and a touch a of makeup and any man would be proud to have her on his arm. There's no mistaking her, if you wander down to Venecia, at far end of the alley by Niños de Heroes, and see a noticeably petite woman with a gorgeous face, you've found her. If you have to wonder whether it could be her, then it's not! You will know. She works days and early evenings. She smiles readily, so compliment her and watch that dimpled smile and her sparkling eyes light up.
I've only been with her a few times, but often stop to chat with her and occasionally bring her a bottle of water. This morning I decide to take it up a notch, and ask her to my hotel for the very first time instead of bedding her at crappy Venecia. Despite the appeal of a $3 room at Venecia, I wanted a nicer environment and a bit more time to cultivate a stronger relationship with this sexy babe. I offered her 400 pesos. In the past I've only paid her the usual 200 pesos for the fifteen minute quick bang. She's hesitant with my suggestion to go to my hotel and says we should stay here where she works.
Now she already knows that I will treat her well, that I'm safe to be with, and that I sometimes take other girls for extended periods of time either to my hotel or Plaza Rio or to a restaurant. She was there last night when one regular of mine and her girlfriend asked me to take them to a small circus the night before. Now that was an usual experience of Mexico. Afterwards, it was cool to sit in the oficina of Venecia with about eight street girls huddled around my digital camera to see the photos of the little circus.
Anyway, now Lorena suggests that it's quite a long walk down to Hotel Mini. So, playing the negotiating game, I step out into the street, look down the block, and suggest that it's really not so far. She's weakening and now asks how much time I expect, I tell her just a little time. Of course, I would never say this while negotiating for the first time with a new Street Girl, but at this point I'm confident enough in my friendship with her to know she'll treat me fairly. She just needs a little time to process the idea of going to my hotel since doesn't normally go off-site. So, she tells me that she can only give me half an hour for 400 pesos and I say okay. Great! She agrees to go with me!
Along the way, Lorena stops briefly to talk with a pretty girlfriend in front of Hong Kong Bar. I've seen this girl often but never been with her. However, this may prove valuable in the future. Let me explain, given the competitive nature of these girls, I know that if I ever choose this other Street Girl at some point in the future, she'll likely put forth extra effort, to show herself better than Lorena. It doesn't always work this way, but often enough that it's almost a rule.
I'm proud as a can be to have one of the most beautiful women in the alley strolling by my side. The girls around Hotel Mini throw a few dagger eyes as we approach. Spiteful little celosas. Down the long corridor we head and I say hello to Gloria the day manager giving her $5 to allow Lorena up to my room. Gloria hasn't seen Lorena previously and asks her name and where she works.
In the room Lorena quicky drops the skirt and underwear. She is used to the Venecia quick bang. I drop my clothes and grab a spare blanket from the dresser. Lorena looks surprised as I throw it over us. I hug her close to me and she giggles with excitement. She is so cute. I stroke her face and play with her ear and caress her body and tell her she so beautiful. She's all smiles and dimples and pleased as can be. Her reaction is so dramatic that I wonder if anyone has ever done this to her before, taking the time to treat her as a person. Is it actually possible that this gorgeous creature is craving some attention and affection? After rolling around for a while, she grabs Mr Happy into her tiny hand and starts stroking the head and rubbing him against her thigh. I can't take too much of this until it's time to cover up and get to the main attraction.
Lorena is a great little faker and has even a clutz like me convinced that she's the throws of ecstasy. I know better, but what the hell, now's certainly not the time to press for total honesty. Anyway, it doesn't take long for Mr Happy to toss the wad. Back to more holding and caressing and affection with this little cutie. I realize that my dreams of more positions and such aren't realistic. I'm worn out.
It's getting late about 11:00 am and I need to head home. Lorena helps me packup my belongings into my backpack. She takes the time to nicely fold my sweater like only a woman can and presents it to me proudly. Before we leave the room, we hug each other and then head down to the oficina. I ask her to wait a moment while I return my key for my deposit and say good-bye to Gloria.
We head down Callejon Coahuila to Venecia and Lorena says she would appreciate a bottle of water. I walk across the street and return with a bottle for this little goddess. I thank her for her tiempo and she says de nada. I thank her for her affecto, again she says de nada. What a sweetheart.
Mike
I had a few guys trying to shill for massage parlors. I try to get away from them as fast as can. They always say ANYTHING you want which most likely means drugs. That’s the last thing I would do in MX. Even if I did drugs I would not trust the person selling them to not rip me off, give me poor quality or fake drugs, who knows what. Do mongers actually buy from these fuckers?
One guy kept following me down the alley asking me what I was looking for. When I said that I was going to see a regular of mine, Susan, he walked up between us and tried to pretend to set me up with her although I’d seen her several times before. I walked away a then came back to her. He asked if when I came back if I could buy him a coffee. WTF? Once in the room she asked if he was my amigo, I told her- hell no!
I asked if I could take her picture, she said no. Too bad.
Anyone ever been with a girl that worked out of the hotel La Riberta? It's next to the bar Delicia. I saw some cute girls over there. Some looked a little young but there were cops parked right near them and they didn’t say anything, (not that it means much). I know the MX cops are very scrupulous and would never allow anything untoward to happen.
[QUOTE=Reinaldo]The name of this place doesn't ring a bell but it sounds like the Mini Hotel. Is it located on the alley?[/QUOTE]
Yes, this is actually Hotel Mini, not Vence. It has the long white corridor and is next to and almost directly under the sign for Bar La Capirucha.
I think the misunderstanding is that at the end of the corridor, on a board hanging over the Oficina, it says "La Habitacion Vence 12.00." This is an offer to rent living quarters to the girls, not the name of the Hotel. I've stayed there often, though I wouldn't recommend it.
Mike
Susan stands next to Miami, is fairly tall, light skinned, refined features, wears 6 in' white knee high vinyl boots, very tight short shorts with her slender midriff always exposed, long legs, long blond curly hair, appears to have good sized breasts, (miracle bra workin' overtime), great ass, and nice face. She says she is 20 years old.
She has become something of a regular of mine. She is the go-to girl when I can't find Paola, (which is every time lately) or any new girl that catches my eye. She is one of the most consistent girls in terms of being out on the street each time I visit the Zona. She has a fairly good attitude, sucks like a hoover and defiantly delivers the goods
I don't see any posts about her, yet to me she is a real standout among the alley crowd. Maybe she has used a different name in the past.
Anyone else been with her?
Yea Erika works nights there and shes always had a good flaca body and always looks hot in a miniskirt and nice hairdo. Her downfall is when she smiles since she doesnt have the best looking teeth. Still cops an attitude with me after these years.
Any day monger seen Paola @ Eduardo? Been wanting to catch her but she's not been out at night.
On 3/19 (Sunday) near entrance to Hotel Cascada.
Good news: Room $5.50 and FS -$20 including CCBJ
Bad news: mechanical service from a B cup chica.
I find most street girls to be mechanical, especially on the first encounter. I expect that going in now. I'm not going with street girls to get a GFE. I just want a hot little trophy fuck.
As long as they're hot and do what they promise I count it as a good session. Not that anyone asked me ; ).
Looked for quite a while but alas, no Paola.
It was weird going in the day. I kind of felt more...I don't know the word, pervy? A couple of the girls at HK were looking good. The street girls were not so great. There were some good looking girls at AD.
I ended up with a SG. She had a lip piercing, small, thin, hair pulled back. She was wearing yellow lacy pants and had a cute face. It's weird but once they stop smiling and flirting with you on the street their face changes into that melancholy stare and they look less attractive.
I gave her a little back rub and she really liked it. I thought it might loosen her up a bit. She had really nice, long, responsive nipples and perky little tities. I enjoyed feeling her body for a minute before doing her.
After doing her for a minute she actually started getting into it a little, or at least started faking it. I kind of pulled back a little to see if she would still pretend to like it but she stopped. When I got back into it, so did she. She actually looked at me which many SG don't.
I guess I don't really care either way. Not a bad day but she is no Paola
[QUOTE=Lascivious]Looked for quite a while but alas, no Paola.
I ended up with a SG. She had a lip piercing, small, thin, hair pulled back. She was wearing yellow lacy pants and had a cute face. [/QUOTE]Could have been Na-ja-ley (not sure how to spell it) if she stands way East towards Constitution from the same hotel Paloa uses (Eduardo). Very pretty eyes with a lower left side lip stud.
[QUOTE=Ninguno Especial]Could have been Na-ja-ley (not sure how to spell it) if she stands way East towards Constitution from the same hotel Paloa uses (Eduardo). Very pretty eyes with a lower left side lip stud.[/QUOTE]
It is spelled Nayeli. She is from Acapulco, and usually works evenings (not out very late). Typical SG experience with some mentions of BB in some reports I have ready about her.
Someone else that was there the same day I was confrimed that she was indeed Nayeli. Not bad, I'd do her again if there was no one else that caught my eye.
I usually try to ask and remember their names if I like them but I did not ask her.
Can't say I like to hear about the BB thing though.
I stayed in TJ last night at the Hotel de Hacienda Santiago. Room was nice, it was cold so didn't need a/c. It's on a very noisy corner so don't plan on sleeping much with assistance. Girls frequented the lobby, but didn't hang out in front. The hotel workers downstairs said they could hook us up for $80-$100 - I said that was too expensive, so I was introduced to a girl. She looked white, spoke both english and spanish like a native. She was from LA and her parents were Mex nationals. Not terribly attractive and C- body. She did bbbj for 40+ min and finished manually for $30. She was nice and gave me lots of inside information about how things worked on the streets. After my head cleared, I noticed one of my things were missing. Then I remembered that she took her clothes off and put it where I left my thing. She must have grabbed it when getting her clothes. My bad for thinking w/ the small head, but just be careful of her. Name's Esmeralda, about 5'4", fair skinned, tattoo of a marijuana leaf on the middle of her chest and LA on her arm. It ruined the night for me!
One thing I did noticed is that the bar girls were heads above the sw in looks!!!
ME
[QUOTE=Bolthead]How do you pick up the SW girls? im interested in cutting the costs of TJ trips and since I live real close, I could go more often.
I wish there was some kind of guide :-([/QUOTE]I'm not sure if that question was serious or sarcastic. If you've been to TJ and simply walked down this alley that we speak of, behind Adelitas, it is literally lined with streetwalkers. More like sidewalk standers. The only time they move is to grab you as you walk down the sidewalk. There is no picking them up, they pick you up. If you see one you like, just walk up to her and most likely she'll solicite you before you get the chance to. She'll quote $20 to $30 plus $5 for the room. Negotiate if you care to. There's short time motels that they work out of within 10 steps of their posts. There's no trick to it, probably the easiest scene there is next to Thailand or Brazil. Quite the sight the first visit but after a few times there, I prefer Thailand. But if your in southern Cal., it's a great way to kill a night.
Enjoy and play safe.
Based on Lascivious' 3-8-06 post, I decided to try Susan out. What stuck in my mind was that she wears white boots, so I went looking for a girl with white boots. Alas, many chicas are wearing white boots in the alley. After soliciting names from three girls wearing white boots, I finally scored and found Susan.
Didn't bother bargaining, so paid $30 for sucky-fucky-sin ropa. Reasonably cute, and the best CBJ I've had from a street girl. Perky titties, but wouldn't let me suck on them. Sex wasn't spectacular, but she did do a little more than just lay there, which seems to be typical of the street girls. Didn't rush me in any way and seemed interested in talking to me afterwards.
I would repeat if I were looking for a good BJ. Otherwise probably not.
Sessioned with Flor, age 19, from Veracruz this AM. She's a small, thin girl who stands in front of Valentina's and normally wears white knee-high socks and a gray skirt with white blouse. Really cute in that Catholic school-girl kind of way. Claims to have been working in the Zona for 6 months now, during which time she has picked up minimal english. Pleasant enough, but not much of a talker (in either english or spanish).
Asked $30 for sucky-fucky-sin ropa, but accepted $250 pesos (about $22.50) plus US$5 for the hotel (It was Hotel Coahuila; Hotel Cascadas charged me $5.50 a couple nights ago - Cascadas is the only street girl hotel that has charged me more than $5, but I lack extensive experience so there may be others).
After unveiling her lovely, correctly-proportioned body, she performed an uninspired/unskilled CBJ. After several minutes of not feeling much of anything, we moved on to el sexo, at which she is much more skilled. She squeezed away internally while manhandling the sac externally.
Didn't care for her hygiene afterwards - just used toilet paper, no water. She actually spent more time on her hair than in her nether regions.
I may repeat, though I certainly won't pay extra for a BJ.
-FIF
[QUOTE=Fourinchfred]Sessioned with Flor... who stands in front of Valentina's ... plus US$5 for the hotel (It was Hotel Coahuila... [/QUOTE]
Just a quick FYI about the correct hotel name to avoid confusion amongst our loyal readers. The hotel next to Valentina Bar is Hotel Valentina. Valentina Bar and Hotel are owned by the same folks as own Adelita Bar/Hotel Coahuila.
Often the hotel staff in Hotel Valentina will wear "Hotel Coahuila" shirts, some of the towels say Coahuila and the registry pad used at the front desk says Hotel Coahuila.
Nevertheless, this is really Hotel Valentina in the alley (Callejon Coahuila) not Hotel Coahuila next to AB on Calle Coahuila.
Best Wishes.
Hi,
I have been to TJ 5 times now in the past few months, normally during a week day. I always cruise the alley for a bit, but normally end up back at AB. The reason is all the chicas I have approached in the alley are all asking too much and trying to upsell. I know I can get a basic FS in the alley for $20 but they all try to upsell for sin ropa and again for multiple positions and again for bj. They all quote 50 for everything, but for that price I will stay at AB, where even the top hotties (Angelica, Andrea, etc.) will normally go for that.
I am firm with my price and will not go above 30 for a street chica, but none have been willing, to my complete amazement because at 2PM on a Monday for sure they are not getting much business. I normally will only approach the better looking chicas on the street (usually a 7 or 8), but even then I have not seen ANY competition from other Mongers indicating it would be a sellers market out there and they could turn down an offer then, so I am a bit at as loss for words as to why.
The first few times I asked prices so that probably gave me away as a newbie, but last time I just proposed 20 sin ropa, mucho positiones, con chupar and of the 4 chicas I approached none would go below 40 for that.
Are others getting all that for 20 or 25, or are you just getting a basic one position FS?
[QUOTE=Adventuremike]Hi,
Are others getting all that for 20 or 25, or are you just getting a basic one position FS?[/QUOTE]It is very possible to get all of that for 20 or 25 or even 15. You just have to keep going down the line. Recently I've had chicas offer 100 pesos ($9). One offered bare back for $15 BJ or sex. She wasn't bad looking at all.
Adventuremike,
The normal 'set' is
12 for straight sexo with top on (apparently, gringos rarely do this, mexicanos like it better than rest of the stuff?)
15 for straight sin ropa (no clothes)
20 for sin ropa 'algo posiciones' (some/various positions ie CG, mish, perrito, etc etc)
25 all of the above with CBJ
This is for the 6-9 levels (this depends on a lot of variables including her econimic need)
If you repeat, my experience is you get more stuff but money stays the same.
So never start high.
Also if you want to repeat etc never do her neighbour right in front of her.
Good luck. Keep the negotiations good and the market happy.
[QUOTE=Adventuremike] ...all the chicas I have approached in the alley are all asking too much and trying to upsell.[/QUOTE]
Yes they will. But for $20 you get easily get sex + oral + sin ropa + two positions. The first time with a new girl, I would not be asking for many positions, she does not you know and is unlikely to agree to this vague request.
Before negotiating, take a few minutes to chat with the girl. Learn her name, where she is from, compliment her, etc. This also gives her a chance to discern whether you are going to be okay to be with. I think this is key.
Relax and take some time. You will find what you want.
[u]Let me give an example of how not to act:[/u]
Last time I was in the Alley was on Monday, May 1st. I was talking with Bela in front of Bar Valentina. A vendor with a large push cart of some kind of fruit I had never seen before was approaching and Bela asked for a $1 for some fruit. I gave her 10 pesos and she got a small bag of these green and yellow oblong fruits. As we were enjoying them, a large man in a terribly wrinkled, brown business suit was walking down the alley. He looked quite overweight, sweaty, and rather unkempt. In a very loud voice he asked one of the girls "Fucky, Sucky?" leaning down in her face. At the same time, he took his fist and made a pumping motion in front of his mouth. He scared the poor girl, but was oblivious to his own poor manners and moved along stopping frequently as he saw women he fancied.
Meanwhile, I bought another bag of fruit and walked past him down to Hotel Venecia to give them out to some girls. The vendor had already been down there and the girls were just finishing up theirs, when I arrived to a warm reception and passed the bag around. After a few minutes, this rude behemoth arrived and leans down into little Lorena's face and blasts her with "FUCKY, SUCKY?" Again pumping his fist in front of his mouth vigorously as though she wouldn't have caught his meaning. Lorena shook her head no and turned away quickly. The frustrated man stomped away. Meanwhile, the six or seven girls who had witnessed this burst out laughing!
An unbelievable but true example of a dork that thought he was following all the rules.
Happy Hunting,
Mike
Mike123,
I will certainly spend more time with small talk next time to put them more at ease. While always polite and respectful (quite the opposite of your example), I must admit to approaching them on the blunt side after only a short greeting (which always works fine in AB). I now see that it takes more finesse in the alley. Initially this seems a bit contrary to my initial impression because many of the reports have said how these chicas are all business in most cases (except for the rare mongers who repeat several times). Perhaps one needs to put them at ease more because safety and risk are more of an issue in the alley than in the more controlled and secure AB.
I shall take the info to heart and report back.
Thanks again.
Ninguno Especial (nice handle), thanks for the advice, but in the days I have cruised the alley I maybe find 1 in 15 chicas to be cute enough to give a try to, so asking each one down the line is not so appealing then.
When would you say is the best time for monger-advantageous negotiations- - on the weekends with more chicas (and more mongers), or a week day with less of both?
[QUOTE=Adventuremike]Mike123,
When would you say is the best time for monger-advantageous negotiations- - on the weekends with more chicas (and more mongers), or a week day with less of both?[/QUOTE]I've heard Tues, Wed, Thurs. is best but never worked for me. I get about the same quotes regardless of the day. Saturdays are most likely the worst for getting discount rates or extended time.
And yes, you should always be nice but remember this:
The girls already know whey you're there. No need for small talk. Quick and polite negotiation with a warm smile and a gentile touch will make your repeat session with the girl worth the up front effort.
The girls want repeat customers like anyone else. They want their repeat customers to be nice, so [b]be nice[/b].
Don't stand on the street taking up their time, they have work to do. Be like mike 123, be polite, buy 'em a bag of fruit - a nice thing. But they're there to make money and if their boyfriend or espouso is looking on, they don;t want to be seen making a bunch of small talk, think of them when you are talking to them. Save the chat for the hroom, that's where the deal goes down and if she has time to chat she'll do it there.
Now all of the above seems cold and uncaring but believe me, the girl will appreciate you getting in and out quickly all while being a nice guy too. It's the stuff that GFE's are made of.
Country John
I have found in many cases that you can get a better deal on Contitucion. The alley sg's want more money and seem less wiliing to do extras. That is not always the case however. About 3 or 4 years ago I used to see this one sweet SG named Wendy on Cohuilla. Wendy was the only sg that I have found really satisfying. Most of sg's don't seem willing to please or are lazy. This is the one reason why I rarely get any actiion in TJ. The sw's will try to scam you much more tj. I have had many occasions where the sw's will agree to something and refuse. The last time I was down there the sg stopped in the middle of a bj. One of there favorite scams is to tell you that the time is up in the middle of session
You can get a better deal on El Cajon when you factor in Gas.
[QUOTE=Hizark21]I have found in many cases that you can get a better deal on Contitucion. The alley sg's want more money and seem less wiliing to do extras. That is not always the case however. About 3 or 4 years ago I used to see this one sweet SG named Wendy on Cohuilla. Wendy was the only sg that I have found really satisfying. Most of sg's don't seem willing to please or are lazy. This is the one reason why I rarely get any actiion in TJ.
You can get a better deal on El Cajon when you factor in Gas.[/QUOTE]I agree!
And they want to charge you for any details, like touching a breast xtra$
more than two positions xtra$, you want her on top xtra$, some of them can't do anything right either!
This one girl want to put the condom when pecker was down and soft, they spit every second when giving head, lousy service,and when done you saved $10 compared to the clubs LOL, I rather go to AB, The paraditas aren't good for nothing more than bend over thanks and bye,bye!
No matter how nice you treat them, they just don't give a shit!
The faster you're done the better , and some of them will tell you how much time left yo got! so better take more quarters for the meter! LOL,LOL
[QUOTE=Hizark21]I have found in many cases that you can get a better deal on Contitucion. The alley sg's want more money and seem less wiliing to do extras.
You can get a better deal on El Cajon when you factor in Gas.[/QUOTE]Agreed on for the most part and I believed this for years but have found a few good deals in the alley. As far as a "better deal" on El Cajon that is if you don't end up doing time, paying fines and losing your vehicle in the process. Those days are long gone for me. It's not worth the risk IMO.
So long as you take the proper precautions the risk is quite low. Just don't offer the sw any money until she gets in your vehicle and do the check. Drive a good distance from ECB to make sure the cops aren't following you.
Just follow these tips and you will be safe.The downside is that the action is fairly erratic if you want to get a good deal. But if you are patient then it is well worth it.
Has anyone see a woman named Lisa near the alley? She's about 39 y/o, mexican american - very fair skin with big juggs, wavy hair & tattoos on her tits (Ricardo in cursive). I fucked her last year in a hotel on the alley. She was from san diego - a DJ she said. But living in TJ, and generally didn't go to the states. Interesting. I figured she was either hiding out from the law or keeping close to a supply. She enjoyed our sex so much she actually invited me to her apartment a few blocks away next to the Molina. Unfortunately, she had a boyfriend who payed for many of her expenses & got in the way. So, my multiple encounter got cut short. Just interested to see if she was still around.
I loved this fat bootied street girl. $20 + $3/room.
Usually, I tell these girls what I want and insist that I always pay them after.
I also normally don't let them don't let them nickel and dime me.
Probably around half the time I get my way.
I wish more guys wouldn't give in so easily so that the girls would provide better service.
Bobisee,
I see that you got anal from a SW in TJ. I was down in TJ this past Sunday and scored the same thing. I picked up a very pretty, young SW by the name of Monica and did the deed: CBJ and anal. This was the second SW in a row in TJ that agreed to this. A long time ago, it was practically impossible to find a SW willing to do this. I guess they are becoming either more liberal in their attitudes or, due to the supply-demand situation (more SWs than Johns), they have to offer more benes to get one up on the competition. By the way, it was great!
Hi Tripod,
Can you tell us where this monica is from? ie which hotel, where did you find her etc?
The reason I am asking is that I used to know a Monica (brunette, 1 inch scar on top of each breast, playful etc) from the corner of constituition and the alley (the northwest corner of that intersection). I do not see her around anymore.
She was nice and gave me CBJ+ 3 posiciones for 35. what did yours cost?
ADV
[b]Rosalinda[/b] is a cutie that works out of Hotel Mini during the daytime. I first met her well over a year ago when I took her for an hour to my room. I remember being very satisfied with her performance at the time, and have usually greeted her on subsequent trips, though I had not sessioned with again her up until now.
Rosalinda has very dark brown hair, parted in the middle, starting out straight and ending in curls which fall a couple inches onto her shoulders. She has big wide eyes, thick dark eyebrows, and a wide mouth which grins easily. She has a bit of a belly and skinny legs like so many of the street girls here. She's quiet, very soft-spoken, but friendly and could likely do better were she more aggressive on the street, but it's just not her nature.
I was woke early on Monday morning, July 3rd and wandered out of my room at Hotel El Porton just past 7:00 am. I was surprised to see quite a few ladies out working this early. One of them was Rosalinda. I said good morning to her and ask why she was here so early. I don't recall seeing her around at this hour previously. She knows a bit of English and says that since it has been so hot during the day, so wanted to get an early start while it was still cool. She has been here since 5:00 am!
This morning she is wearing a typical street girl setup, a red outfit with a very short skirt and a top which starts out squeezing her small breasts together and ends in a triangle hanging above her belly button. Over this she is wearing an open black sweater. After exchanging our greetings and a bit of chitchat, I ask her how much and she says veinte, of course. She's all smiles and friendly with me, glad that I've finally chosen her again after such a very long time. I know she's a sweetheart and don't feel it's necessary to drill her on all the exact details as I would for a session with a new girl.
So, we start back to my room at [post=444582]Hotel El Porton.[/post] Even though she works at Hotel Mini, it's no problem to go with me to my hotel. Girls working out of Hotel Mini aren't supervised and are free to go with you if they so choose. We arrive at my room and I tell her I would like double time from her. We both strip down to nothing and lay on my bed. She's all hands rubbing me up and down like I'm her best boyfriend and I just lay there enjoying her affections thoroughly. What a nice change of pace to get a girl who knows how to treat a man well. After a while I start petting and groping her as well, very gently and slowly.
She asks me if I like being sucked and I tell her of course it is mi gusta. I hand her my collection of condoms and she selects a strawberry-flavored one, opens it, smells it and says its fragrance is good. She unrolls it onto Mr. Happy, who is standing tall for her. She proceeds to give me a fantastic covered blow job, just the way I like it, very slow and firm. She goes deep, bobbing her head up and down not using her hands at all. She moves around a bit, changing her positions slightly and watching my reactions. I'm thoroughly relaxed and enjoying her. My hands alternate between cupping her small, hanging boobs, rubbing her back, and touching her hind end. I think for a moment of sticking a finger inside of her but decide not to risk ruining the great service I'm getting, since I'm not sure what her reaction would be.
After a while of this, I sit up and give both of her breasts a firm squeeze and motion for Rosalinda to lay down. I give her my tube of KY warming gel and tell her it has calor (heat). She puts a drop on my condom and feels the heat of it as I slide into her. We do missionary for a while, Mr. Happy tosses. We get up and wash up.
Afterwards, I ask her if I can take a photo. Apparently flattered, she smiles and readily agrees, but the room lighting is rather dim so I open the door to my room and ask her to step out. She does and I snap a nice photo of her. When I show it to Rosalinda, she laughs and says her lips are too big. However, she adds, they are very good for sucky! Truer words were never spoken. We walk out together, both very pleased with our transaction.
- Mike
[QUOTE=Adventur]Hi Tripod,
Can you tell us where this monica is from? ie which hotel, where did you find her etc?
The reason I am asking is that I used to know a Monica (brunette, 1 inch scar on top of each breast, playful etc) from the corner of constituition and the alley (the northwest corner of that intersection). I do not see her around anymore.
She was nice and gave me CBJ+ 3 posiciones for 35. what did yours cost?
ADV[/QUOTE]Adventur,
This Monica was 22 years old, short hair brunette (with frost strips), standing on the corner of Constitution. She told me that she was from TJ and had one kid. She speaks no English but I speak a little espanol so we were able to engage in basic communication. Total damage for $20 for CBJ plus an additional $20 for sin ropa and finally another $20 for anal with cover. And, by the way, she was very cute.
Not really a report but more of a question. I see the alley girls are quite popular but are they as safe, health wise, as the AB or the CC girls. First time to TJ in the first week of AUG and not looking forward to the higher priced bar girls and would rather knock out a alley girl.
[QUOTE=Calicoolguy]Not really a report but more of a question. I see the alley girls are quite popular but are they as safe, health wise, as the AB or the CC girls. First time to TJ in the first week of AUG and not looking forward to the higher priced bar girls and would rather knock out a alley girl.[/QUOTE]Tough call, bro. I do know that the girls in AB/CC will do everything bareback. But that's usually with a an established, repeat customer. Compared to a bar girl, the girls on the street are notorious for playing hardball. They have a reputation for being mechanical and a little ice queenish. Unlike a bar girl, you'll have to insist that an SW take off her top when you're negotiating for a session.
Now there are guys that get GFE and DFK from a streetwalker, but they have lots of experience hunting game out there in the alley. I would tend to think any monger procuring GFE or DFK from a girl in the alley is the more the exception than it is the rule.
SG street video
([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88Duq4QJTN8&mode=related&search=tijuana%20prostitution[/url] )
This is a video of the sg's that someone filmed. I recognize a lot of the girls in the video. Please identify the the different s'g please.
[QUOTE=Hizark21]SG street video
([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88Duq4QJTN8&mode=related&search=tijuana%20prostitution[/url] )
This is a video of the sg's that someone filmed. I recognize a lot of the girls in the video. Please identify the the different s'g please.[/QUOTE]The first girl in the video goes by the name of Lucy. A very good MILF experience if you like older women. She does anal too.
[QUOTE=Hizark21]SG street video
([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88Duq4QJTN8&mode=related&search=tijuana%20prostitution[/url] )
This is a video of the sg's that someone filmed. I recognize a lot of the girls in the video. Please identify the the different s'g please.[/QUOTE]The dude has 3 videos in this series. I have never seen that many SW before! Maybe its better pickings during the day time? I have only been at night, and only to the alley behind ABs.
A great short tape, not an easy task to do in the zona, they hate pictures and films, filming this video is more dangerous than Discovery swimming with the great white shark! LOL! thumb up!
It's not very clear to me? Is this the alley behind AB or avenida revolucion?
It's just too many colored buildings! LOL
[QUOTE=Tripod]She does anal too.[/QUOTE]Thanks for that intel, Tripod.
I've gone backdoor on probrably 3 streetwalkers and I tell ya in all cases it was part comical, part melancholy. All 3 had holes assholes you could stick your motorcycle helmet covered head in.
At first I was ecstatic that I was able to greek 'em, but that elation quickly turned to dismay. Contrast that with some of my non-pro girlfriends where I had to strain just to get my member halfway in. It's been several years since I went backdoor on a TJ streetwalker, so maybe I should try again. Ya think?
[QUOTE=Hizark21]SG street video
([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88Duq4QJTN8&mode=related&search=tijuana%20prostitution[/url] )[/QUOTE]
Here you go, boys, hope you enjoy my annotated timeline!
[b]Mike's Video Timeline[/b]
[u]Northeast Corner of Primera and Constitución[/u]
[b]00:08[/b] Video opens at the northeast corner of Primera (Articulo 123 Primera) and Constitución. The camera pans up Primera pointing east at two women and then pivots back to Constitución.
[b]00:15[/b] The tour begins walking north down the east side of Constitución.
[b]00:17[/b] Girl with black, long sleeve shirt, red plaid skirt, and cell phone. This is [b]Carola[/b], she is very cute and works out of [b]Hotel Irma.[/b] Performance just depends on her attitude, been with her several times.
[u]West side of Constitución walking North toward the Alley[/u]
[b]00:20[/b] Crosses over Constitución to the west side, still walking north.
[b]00:29[/b] The white tile with faded gold flowers is [b]Bar Las Charritas.[/b]
[b]00:40[/b] Reaches the southwest corner of Constitución and Callejon Coahuila (the alley). This is [b]Bar Las Charritas,[/b] strictly a locals dive.
[u]North side of Callejon Coahuila (The Famous Alley) walking West[/u]
[b]00:39[/b] Crosses from the south side of Callejon Coahuila to the north side, walking west from Constitución. This is restaurante [b]El Taco Choncho[/b], never ate there, don't care to try.
[b]00:44[/b] The brown-orange tile and closed oak doors are [post=444582]Hotel El Porton[/post] before it was opened. So, the video is likely shot shortly before March of this year. Don't know the name of the very cute girl standing in front of the doors. Didn't see her there on my last trip. Very pretty face, always seemed a bit stand-offish to me.
[b]00:47[/b] Chipped pink tiles. Approaching [b]Bar La Capirucha.[/b] This is where most of the girls working out of [b]Hotel Mini[/b] stand. Must be early in the day since few are standing here.
[b]00:49[/b] Entrance to [b]Bar La Capirucha.[/b] Never found much happening here. Closed for the past couple years and opened and closed twice already this year.
[b]00:53[/b] Entrance to [b]Hotel Mini,[/b] home of some of the alley's finest.
[b]00:54[/b] Somebody taking the walk down the famous, long corridor of [b]Hotel Mini.[/b] Ahh, the memories!
[b]00:58[/b] [b]Aguitas Tienda.[/b] Decent store to stop and get a soda or Red Bull.
[b]1:04[/b] Girl with white lacey pants, don't know her.
[b]1:06[/b] The girl with the solid, white pants, white top, and black sweater is [b]Norma.[/b] Hard body flaca with a below average face. Good, very reliable performer works out of [b]Hotel Valentina.[/b] Many times with her. Clean, no games, serious fucking.
[b]1:13[/b] Red tile with black strip is [b]Hotel and Bar Valentina.[/b]
[b]1:15[/b] Gal with the blue jeans, white top, and black sweater is [b]Bela.[/b] Ah, my sweet [b]Bela,[/b] with the wide-face and big beautiful eyes and gorgeous heart-shaped smile. Another very reliable performer working out of Hotel Valentina, but have taken her to Hotel Mini with me. Mi amor! Some cool girls work outside.
[b]1:20[/b] Entrance to [b]Hotel Valentina.[/b] Short time only, they don't rent overnight to mongers. Rooms are usually clean and include sinks and showers.
[b]1:23[/b] Entrance to [b]Bar Valentina[/b] with two bar girls walking out. This and the hotel are owned by Adelita Bar. Mostly for locals, never much action inside here.
[b]1:43[/b] Approaching the restaurante attached to Hotel Cascades.
[b]1:45[/b] Cute girl with distinctive, pretty face. Anyone know her? See her all the time.
[b]1:51[/b] Approaching the famous lobby of [b]Hotel Cascades[/b]. Many great lookers work here in the evenings, but slim pickings early in the day as the upcoming dog-faced girls prove.
[b]1:58[/b] Banner hanging outside of the famous [b]Miami Bar.[/b] This is a great outside location for hot chicas.
[b]1:59[/b] Very hot, petite chica. Always here days. Never been with her. Anyone know her name?
[b]2:01[/b] Mariachi guy standing at the entrance to [b]Miami Bar.[/b]
[b]2:02[/b] Seems like they edited out or skipped past Hong Kong Bar. Video here shows the bright yellow painted [b]Tortilleria Grano de Oro.[/b]
[b]2:03[/b] The closed black pull down doors were unoccupied at the time this video was shot. The closer one is now open and is named [b]Raspados Mañana,[/b] [i]Morning Ice Waters,[/i] selling fruit waters and such. The girls standing here are working out of [b]Hotel Venecia[/b].
[b]2:15[/b] The blue corridor is the famous (for me, anyway) [b]Hotel Venecia,[/b] actually the quarters here are poor, poor quality. I prefer to take the girls here back to what ever hotel I'm staying at.
[b]2:17[/b] Ah, yes, mi amiga [b]Carina[/b] in the yellow dress! You can see photos I previously posted with her here [post=413798]Hotel Venecia with Carina #1[/post] and [post=407564]Carina #2[/post]. I've taken her with another street girlfriend offsite to the movies.
[b]2:21[/b] Small store called [b]Miscelanea Juquilita.[/b]
[b]2:26[/b] The short, petite gal with black hair and wearing a black pull-over top with light blue skirt that's looking at her cell phone is Lorena. Ah, mi amor [b]Lorena[/b] una guapa chicquita. Very cariñoso. A favorite of mine.
[b]2:28/9[/b] These two girls with white coffee cups, Gloria and ??, are friends of a friend. I've taken them around the corner for tacos and coffee and chat, but never slept with either. I did dance a bit with Gloria one night at Bar El Fracaso. They are standing outside of [b]Bar Rio Rosas,[/b] a terrible dive to avoid.
[b]2:30[/b] You can see the entrance of [b]Bar Rio Rosas.[/b]
[u]Northeast Corner of Callejon Coahuila and Niños de Heroes[/u]
[b]2:31[/b] Crosses the alley.
[u]South side of Callejon Coahuila walking East[/u]
[b]2:31[/b] Girls standing outside of [b]Mercado Cuautla.[/b]
[b]2:33[/b] The green building and entrance are the famous [b]Hotel Eduardo,[/b] dive hotel with some great chicas. Don't recognize anyone here.
[b]2:44[/b] [b]Caliente Sports,[/b] never been in there.
[b]2:49[/b] The first of two entrances to [b]La Carreta Bar.[/b] Custom designed to tease and rip off stupid gringos (like me). Definitely avoid La Carreta!
[b]2:58[/b] The second of two entrances to La Carreta Bar.
[b]3:03[/b] The camera turns a bit and pans up the alley.
[b]3:06[/b] Begins crossing the alley toward [b]Aguitas Tienda.[/b]
[b]3:07[/b] The camera turns back down the alley looking west to show the giant Sol beer bottles outside Valentina Bar and Miami Bar.
[b]3:09[/b] Camera returns to the south side of the alley looking at the girls standing in front of [b]La Carreta Bar.[/b] Again, I don't know any of these girls.
[b]3:16[/b] Crosses the alley from the south side to the North side.
[u]North side of Callejon Coahuila walking East[/u]
[b]3:16[/b] This is just past [b]Fruteria Avitia.[/b]
[b]3:18[/b] Very cute girl standing outside of the [b]Casete Telefono[/b]. Talked to her several times, but don't recall the name.
[b]3:25[/b] Turns the corner.
[u]West side of Constitución walking North away from Callejon Coahuila[/u]
[b]3:25[/b] Always a nice selection of girls working here. Don't know any names.
The end.
It would be so cool if started filming a bunch of different videos from different towns and places.
I may be wrong but is not unicornio Bar on Rev. Blvd. on video #3. This bar has stairs going down into the bar, great place for me BBBJ.
Look out for waiters will rip you off, with your change by putting coins on the bottom of thier trays and you will pickup your bills and leave the change which could be a few bucks.
But over the course of a night of whoring nad drinks you may not notice and it will add up.
Happy hunting guys
Went today by the alley(drove by) and found a great selection both in quantity and quality. Must be the season. I have never seen such a good selection. It was around 2:00 pm. Could not see my favorites but saw much better prospects. Not many mongers around. Did not partake because my "girlfriend" was waiting for me.
I will definetly go back next week with more time to spare. Will keep you posted.
Happy huntings.....
Can anyone id the sg's in videos that give good bj's and their prices. I have never had a really great bj in TJ. This is one reason why I avoid TJ.
Just had an awesome time with a SW in the alley in TJ. She actually had auburn red hair and brown eyes. I dont remember her name. Her BJ was quite tallented and her pu**y was the best I have ever seen. Fairly tight. Sweet girl. She wore a red school girls outfit. 20y-o. I offered her $100 which she was happy to accept with no negotiating. Since I usually pay upwards of $250-300 for an escort in the states, this was a great deal.
[QUOTE=DFWdude]Just had an awesome time with a SW in the alley in TJ. I offered her $100 which she was happy to accept with no negotiating. [/QUOTE]Really? No negotiating at all? Wow, I'm amazed. I mean, just because you offered her five times the going rate, she should still have negotiated. She is giving SWs a bad name. Pretty soon, I'll bet used car salesmen will start accepting $100k offers for $20k cars.
Dude, no wonder they think Americans are there to be ripped off.
Street girls are $20.00. I'm sure she didn't want to negotiate!
[QUOTE=DFWdude]Just had an awesome time with a SW in the alley in TJ... . I offered her $100 which she was happy to accept with no negotiating. Since I usually pay upwards of $250-300 for an escort in the states, this was a great deal.[/QUOTE]The typical street girls regular price is $20 + around $6 for the room. What would make 5x that cost a great deal?
I appreciate that fact that you were trying to help all of us forum members by filming and posting the videos. It seems like a cool idea. However, having lived and worked in Latin America, including Mexico, for 25 years I can tell you taking these videos is surely offensive to the majority of the girls and other strangers in the videos. There are two reasons: 1) many Latin Americans believe that you capture part of their soul with a camera or video, and 2) all these working girls have family and friends somewhere, most likely in another part of the country. They would not like knowing what they do for a living. While there are not likely many Mexicans using this board, and the girls identities will not likely be found out "back home", the girls are embarassed and shamed.
I have never taken pictures or videos of anyone without their permission. It would not be consistent with with their wishes, culture or belief system. These girls are just trying to make a living; most likely to support their children or loved ones. I belive you should take down the videos or go ask the girls if it is OK to post them.
My guess is that you have never lived in Latin America, don't speak much Spanish, nor know much about that culture. If you did, you would just sit down and cry about what you have done. Even though these are SW's they have their pride, dignity, and even modesty. Have the decency to maintain what little they have.
Well, enough said. I fully expect to get completly "flammed" on this forum. But there is something to be said for being a gentleman and a monger.
M.L.
I am a bit conflicted about those tapes also, I was thinking the same thing about permission not being asked and I know if I seen myself on that tape I would flip the fk out and try to take major legal action. Than on the other hand I do enjoy seeing what the streets of TJ are like, so like I said am conflicted but I think I agree with munch lunch more.
And as far as paying $100 for a street girl, damn you should have read these boards before you went cause that is ridiculous.
[QUOTE=Munch Lunch] I have never taken pictures or videos of anyone without their permission. [/QUOTE]Admirable trait but the pros give up their privacy once they hang their shingle (or cleavage) on the street.
Did Adelitas management ask if it's OK to video tape you? Ever notice the camcorder in the men's room up in the corner? They have others as well including the entrance outside.
There is no privacy anywhere these does and nobody is asking for permission.
[QUOTE=Calicoolguy] I know if I seen myself on that tape I would flip the fk out and try to take major legal action. [/QUOTE]IMO if anyone has a problem being seen or video taped in ZN they should most likely not be there as it can and does happen. In fact you are video taped everytime you enter a 7-11, hotel or wheverever here in the good ole US of A.
Only way to avoid it is stay home. LOL
I really see no problem with these videos there in a public place. As long as there not used for commercial purposes I really don't feel anyone needs permmission to tape something. I pretty sure most of the girls on here that have nude pics takin of them would rather NOT have them displayed for all of us to see IF given the choice.
[QUOTE=Streetlooker]I really don't feel anyone needs permmission to tape something. [/QUOTE]I'm not singling you out here, Streetlooker, so don't take this personally as other people here feel the same way you do.
But one bottom line to this whole deal just might be this: It's the law that dictates wether or not filming putas or Red Light District action is permissible, and not what we happen to think about it.
And what does Mexican law say about filming people on public property, anyway? In the U.S. it's okay to film anyone without their permission on public property, just as long as you aren't going to profit from their image.
I am very curious as to what the Mexican law says about this subject because I have a camera and I like shooting stuff whenever and wherever I feel like it. Does anyone here know?
Don't let the police see you filming girls in the Zone. Even if they see you taking pictures with your cellphone, you'll get stopped. And, if you happen to have any nude photos in your possession, you'll be in a lot of trouble.
Very illegal. Get caught. Your fucked. That is why the videos you see on the web are hidden in a bag. I personally do not like them. I think they draw too much attention on the dirty little secret.
I should reiterate that I mean you should not need permission to tape something in a public place. Now you can put up a sign stateing that taping in this area is punishiable by a fine or something then thats ok to do also But without the sign of warning Its fair game IMO.
Filming in the ZONA: What the fuck, you think you are gonna stand on your legal rights and ask for the ACLU if you get caught taking pix? This has nothing to do with what law is written on the books, most TJ cops have never SEEN a lawbook, and couldn't care less. Hell, half the JUDGES in Baja have never seen a lawbook, they just make it up as they go along.
The only reason we are relatively safe in the ZONA is because the cops and the TJ Mafia make money in the ZONA, and they generally do not want to fuck up a good thing. In Mexico you have no "legal rights". If you annoy the cops, they will just beat the shit out of you, take your camera and your money and, if you are lucky, drop you back on the street. TJ cops are not required to wear name tags, good luck complaining. Everyone in TJ including the mayor, will think you are just a stupid gringo who got what he deserved.
Cause enough trouble and they will take you out of town and shoot you or slip a little cocaine or a bullet in your pocket and then you get a free, well-deserved, year-long ass-fucking. You think you are safe because you are a Gringo???? Wake up and smell the cafe. ROFL Gringos disappear without a trace from TJ all the time. Even the cops themselves are not safe, even judges and federal prosecutors are not safe in TJ:
Thursday, June 22, 2006
Police Beheadings Reflect Drug War
The Los Angeles Times
Tijuana, Mexico - The caller painted an ominous scene: A convoy of 40 vehicles filled with 70 heavily armed and masked men, witnesses said, was prowling the streets of Rosarito Beach. Three police officers responded to the quiet neighborhood and were quickly abducted. A day later, their mutilated bodies turned up in an empty lot.
Nearly two dozen heavily armed gunmen in April tried to assassinate Baja California's top-ranking public safety official in a wild shootout on a Mexicali street. The attackers launched grenades and fired more than 600 rounds, wounding three bodyguards.
Over the past year, commando-style raids have been regular occurrences in Tijuana, with convoys of masked gunmen snatching victims from restaurants and street corners in brazen daylight raids.
Cartels also are using increasingly brutal methods to intimidate their enemies. The Rosarito Beach beheadings followed the decapitation in April of a police commander in Acapulco, whose head was found in a public plaza.
In Baja California, the crime wave could signal an escalation of the fierce war to control the lucrative Tijuana smuggling corridor, which has been traditionally controlled by the Arellano-Felix Cartel. Several top-ranking members of the cartel have been killed or arrested in recent years, and other cartels may be sensing weakness, say experts.
Some recent attacks were shocking for their audacity, say experts. Last month, three men armed with AK-47s stormed into an office of the Mexican Federal Attorney's office in Tijuana and shot two agents, killing one. In December, assailants attacked the Tijuana home of a state police commander, killing two of his bodyguards. In October, Tijuana's chief of homicides narrowly escaped an attack by assailants who fired more than 50 bullets at his car.
"It's a more aggressive form of violence, with new ingredients," said Victor Clark, a border expert and director of Tijuana's Binational Center for Human Rights.
By Richard Marosi
Just behave, and use common sense, and you should be all right. I've lived in TJ for almost two years, and I haven't had any problems.
Hi everyone. Im in San Diego on business in the next 2 weeks with alot of free time. I am hoping for some pointers as to what to do. Ill be driving to parking lot right before the border and then taking a cab str8 to Adelitas. After sampling the fun there, I was wondering where is this famous "Alley"? Do I exit out of the front of Adelitas and be on the "Alley"? or do i have to go through a back entrance? Im looking for an allnighter with a SG. Any tips? Where to find a young, thin SG and then where to go? I am filipino american FYI. Any advice would be appreciated. I will report back with all the fun.
I've been living in TJ for almost 20 (twenty) years. Besides a wrong turn ticket and a small car accident, I cannot recall more problems.
TJ is like a fat and ugly woman... but with a lovely and sincere heart. You just cannot forget her and will return to her arms soon.
Many times a beautiful and perfect chick (call it city or country) can be a horrible nightmare.
You will have problems in TJ if you look for it. I am sure about it. Just walk on the sidewalk and will be safe.
I can say I never have had a fat ugly girl with a good heart so I guess I would not like TJ all that much . I hope like hell I NEVER find myself in the arms of one either.
[QUOTE=Latin Luver]Hi everyone. Im in San Diego on business in the next 2 weeks with alot of free time. I am hoping for some pointers as to what to do. Ill be driving to parking lot right before the border and then taking a cab str8 to Adelitas. After sampling the fun there, I was wondering where is this famous "Alley"? Do I exit out of the front of Adelitas and be on the "Alley"? or do i have to go through a back entrance? Im looking for an allnighter with a SG. Any tips? Where to find a young, thin SG and then where to go? I am filipino american FYI. Any advice would be appreciated. I will report back with all the fun.[/QUOTE]If you come out of Adelita's, you make either a right or left and it is the street parallel behind Adelita's. Can't miss it because all the street girls will be tugging on your shirt. I think it will be pretty hard to find a SG for all nighter and get good service. Most charge 20 bucks for fifteen minutes. You are better off at Adelita's or Chicago Club finding a girl and getting her phone number to hook up either after work or on her day off. Good luck.
[QUOTE=Munch Lunch]I appreciate that fact that you were trying to help all of us forum members by filming and posting the videos. It seems like a cool idea. However, having lived and worked in Latin America, including Mexico, for 25 years I can tell you taking these videos is surely offensive to the majority of the girls and other strangers in the videos. There are two reasons: 1) many Latin Americans believe that you capture part of their soul with a camera or video, and 2) all these working girls have family and friends somewhere, most likely in another part of the country. They would not like knowing what they do for a living. While there are not likely many Mexicans using this board, and the girls identities will not likely be found out "back home", the girls are embarassed and shamed.
I have never taken pictures or videos of anyone without their permission. It would not be consistent with with their wishes, culture or belief system. These girls are just trying to make a living; most likely to support their children or loved ones. I belive you should take down the videos or go ask the girls if it is OK to post them.
My guess is that you have never lived in Latin America, don't speak much Spanish, nor know much about that culture. If you did, you would just sit down and cry about what you have done. Even though these are SW's they have their pride, dignity, and even modesty. Have the decency to maintain what little they have.
Well, enough said. I fully expect to get completly "flammed" on this forum. But there is something to be said for being a gentleman and a monger.
M.L.[/QUOTE]Stop making such a big deal about. The video was good. The guy took a chance with a camera and it paid off. Dont start crying indicating he had no right or its wrong. I applaud the risk taken by the dude who took the video, you have more balls than I ever would.
to pull out a video camera and start shooting in the zona is foolhardy. sure, you might have all these "rights" but remember this grasshopper: [b] you are not in the united states of america. you are in mexico.[/b]
in mexico, if the cop is unsure of something, he either calls in a supervisor or takes you to the station for evaluation, whichever is more convenient for the cop. if they got you on a juicy issue, you could be there for a while and you might have to come up with some money to stay out of jail. perhaps you are not aware of how things operate in mexico, well that's just plain stupid.
you do not have miranda rights. you have no right to privacy, no right to a speedy trial, no right to an attorney before questioning ,[b]you are presumed guilty until proven innocent.[/b]
the place is crawling with ****s, and good luck if you have any nude pictures of anyone other than your spouse. if you have nude pics of ninas then you are severely fucked. don't worry, the cops will not play games; you're ass is gone.
you also need to remember that there are lots of people working the streets in the zona who are wanted by law enforcement in the usa. some of the worst gang bangers who fled the usa live there. i know, i've talked to them. get them on tape and you might lose the camera and who knows what else.
also know that many of the girls working in the alley are being watched by their boyfriends who are also hanging out there. they might not take to you video taping their girls.
other mongers working the zona probably don't want to be in your home movies wither. they go there to have sex with young latinas. some are lawyers, some are doctors, ministers, indian chiefs etc. they don't know who you are and maybe you should be thinking about their privacy. how would you feel if you had a camera lens following you around?
the mob might not like you filming their assets either. you better hope the cops get to you before they do, or it'll take a team of doctors to pull the camera out of your ass.
think this is all funzies? think i am kidding? cool. do what you want. have fun, be happy and have a nice time. but being fore-warned is being fore-armed. if you don't mind bad things happening to you then you have nothing to worry about!!
country john
[QUOTE=Latin Luver]Hi everyone. Im in San Diego on business in the next 2 weeks with alot of free time. I am hoping for some pointers as to what to do. Ill be driving to parking lot right before the border and then taking a cab str8 to Adelitas. After sampling the fun there, I was wondering where is this famous "Alley"? Do I exit out of the front of Adelitas and be on the "Alley"? or do i have to go through a back entrance? Im looking for an allnighter with a SG. Any tips? Where to find a young, thin SG and then where to go? I am filipino american FYI. Any advice would be appreciated. I will report back with all the fun.[/QUOTE]
Two suggestions for you:
1. For general info, read Brockton O'Toole's FAQ, if you haven't already. Its a thread in the Tijuana section this forum.
2. As for all nighters/GFE, here's a post you might want to check out: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=241893&postcount=609[/url] Others have also written about Todos al Noche - they are available but you've got to invest some time and $$.
Have a great trip!
Bend It
[quote=country john]to pull out a video camera and start shooting in the zona is foolhardy. sure, you might have all these "rights" but remember this grasshopper: [b] you are not in the united states of america. you are in mexico.[/b]
in mexico, if the cop is unsure of something, he either calls in a supervisor or takes you to the station for evaluation, whichever is more convenient for the cop. if they got you on a juicy issue, you could be there for a while and you might have to come up with some money to stay out of jail. perhaps you are not aware of how things operate in mexico, well that's just plain stupid.
you do not have miranda rights. you have no right to privacy, no right to a speedy trial, no right to an attorney before questioning ,[b]you are presumed guilty until proven innocent.[/b]
the place is crawling with ****s, and good luck if you have any nude pictures of anyone other than your spouse. if you have nude pics of ninas then you are severely fucked. don't worry, the cops will not play games; you're ass is gone.
you also need to remember that there are lots of people working the streets in the zona who are wanted by law enforcement in the usa. some of the worst gang bangers who fled the usa live there. i know, i've talked to them. get them on tape and you might lose the camera and who knows what else.
also know that many of the girls working in the alley are being watched by their boyfriends who are also hanging out there. they might not take to you video taping their girls.
other mongers working the zona probably don't want to be in your home movies wither. they go there to have sex with young latinas. some are lawyers, some are doctors, ministers, indian chiefs etc. they don't know who you are and maybe you should be thinking about their privacy. how would you feel if you had a camera lens following you around?
the mob might not like you filming their assets either. you better hope the cops get to you before they do, or it'll take a team of doctors to pull the camera out of your ass.
think this is all funzies? think i am kidding? cool. do what you want. have fun, be happy and have a nice time. but being fore-warned is being fore-armed. if you don't mind bad things happening to you then you have nothing to worry about!!
country john[/quote]no ones talking about rights or the difference between mexico and the us or anywhere else by that matter. im sure everyone here knows once we walk across the border, we are no different than anyone else, this also applies to any other country. we can be fucked for any reason, it could be our lucky day, its the chance we take and to me, well worth it.
if someone wants to go in with a camera, good luck, we should all stop bitching about it and talk more about the sw which brought us here in the first place.
[QUOTE=ThePerson]No ones talking about rights or the difference between Mexico and the US or anywhere else by that matter. Im sure everyone here knows once we walk across the border, we are no different than anyone else, this also applies to any other country. We can be fucked for any reason, it could be our lucky day, its the chance we take and to me, well worth it.
If someone wants to go in with a camera, good luck, we should all stop bitching about it and talk more about the SW which brought us here in the first place.[/QUOTE]
I am talking about rights and the difference between Mexico and the USA. Not everyone knows that once they cross the border they are in a different country. The jails are full of them. If you don't think you're different than everyone else, especially in Tijuana you'd better wake up. You're right about taking the chance, but when you are in a high risk environment and at the same time behaving yourself with that level of exposure, then add to that being foolish your chances of having a negative experience are dramatically increased.
If you posted that you were considering going into the Zona with a video camera, there would probably be an out-pouring of posts similar to the posts below, propbably from people who know a bit about it. I hardly call it bitching, it's intended to warn and caution. You need to lighten up.
I don't want to see a mamber of this or any other board have a bad experience if I can help him avoid it. That is the intent of my post.
Country John
with that said.
hi guys,
i'm a new member and i want to thank everyone for their info, opinions and advice.
i went down for my first trip on tuesday, 7/18, during the day. walked into the country and the advice i've read on this site, and a few others, couldn't have been more right on. felt like i'd been there before. (so you know, i am asian-american.) no one bothered me; except, i did get the unrequested suggestions from the taxi driver, of course. didn't want to walk all the way to the zona. hell, it's kind of a hefty little walk for an l. a. guy like myself.
anyways, moving on. i have been to thailand once before and have enjoyed the sw scene in la for a liitle while, so i am not a all together newbie. just a horn dog, who appreciates avoiding the long wait and bullshit involved in bedding a woman. sorry if i seem to be rambling. i am just trying to put some context to my observations.
peeked inside adelitas, and wtf. some of those chicks are seriously fuckable. i've read alot of opinions, and if a guy can't find something here, then he shouldn't be coming down in the first place. to go to mexico hell and find beauties like this was truly a gratifying experience. sure the cost isn't great compared to other countries, but for the price of a decent lap dance you can bust one in/on a cutie, who may actually be enjoying it, and not be thinking about what a nice car you may or may not drive. so wtf. i loved it.
moving on. went to the alley and saw some nice, if not indigenious looking ladies. no prob, found nancy across and left of the hong kong bar i believe. 19 yrs old, from veracruz and have been working for about a year. 5'7ish, 100 lbs at most and really cute. went to the hotel right binhind her, paid $3 for the room and $30 for fs with cbj and multiple positions. she moved her hips well and got me to bust one pretty fast (fuck).
went to hk after and got a nice massage from a sweet, if not older and a wee bit plumper, lady named salma, from guadalupe. $20 for half an hour and eventually gave her an extra $20 for a cbj and as tip. (says she has 3 kids, what's a guy gonna do? )
anyways, hope you got a little something from my post. won't go into details about the other places, since this is probably the wrong forum to do so. thanks again for all the shared info and insights. i will start to write more in the various forums from now on.
peace out.
[b][u]editor's note[/u]:[/b] [blue]i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread.[/blue]
[QUOTE=Streetlooker]I really see no problem with these videos there in a public place. As long as there not used for commercial purposes I really don't feel anyone needs permmission to tape something. I pretty sure most of the girls on here that have nude pics takin of them would rather NOT have them displayed for all of us to see IF given the choice.[/QUOTE]You really don't seem to understand. Rules and attitudes which are accepted and the norm on our side of the border are not accepted over there. Do not assume anything when playing in TJ, Ciudad Juarez, or anywhere else in Mexico. Your opinion of whether or not you need permission does not mean squat. And take it from someone who has seen the inside of a Mexican jail more than once, "You do not want to go there, nor do you want to give them a reason to take you there." I had some friends ignore all my warnings and advice what to do and what not to do years ago in Ciudad Juarez. After all of my counciling, they still ignored the basic and advanced rules, the final straw being giving the arresting officers a bit of a hard time. For their troubles, they were tossed in a swimming pool's shallow end with their legs shackled together and their hands handcuffed behind their backs. The unfortunate part was that this pool was being used as a sort of a ground level septic pit. They spent their evening standing in shit literally up to the chest and were then released minus all of their important and/or valuable belongings.
Now, all being said, that is an extreme case. But I hope that you can understand that just because you think it should be a certain way there, because it is here in the good ole USA, it isn't necessarily so. But hey, if you want to do it anyway, don't ***** later when you get reamed.
in my original post, i tried to appeal to the higher nature of human beings and the need to respect the locals, their culture, and dignity. hell, if you can't understand me, maybe you can understand what country john and others just wrote.
i have never had a brush with the local law enforcement in 25 years of living and working in latin america....i am extremely cautious not to call attention to myself. however, i have visited a lot of jailed americans throughout latin america. pornography of any kind, videos, photos, etc., is strictly against the law in mexico and most of latin america.
if the police pull you over, you are automatically labeled a "pervert". if they don't sodomize you, your cellmate will. god! if you only knew how hideous the legal system and jails are there. the american embassy will not bail your ass out of jail for filming what is considered pornogrpahy by locals. also, filming in tj could get your throat slit by a drug dealer, etc.
this is not about your "right" to do something, this is not about "being a hero and getting the tape out", this is not about "sws deserve to be filmed", etc. etc. however, it is about saving your own fucking life. even if you don't give a rats ass about local customs, don't take the risk. this whole thread further confirms why we are known as the ugly americans abroad.
m.l.
[quote=country john]to pull out a video camera and start shooting in the zona is foolhardy. sure, you might have all these "rights" but remember this grasshopper: [b] you are not in the united states of america. you are in mexico.[/b]
in mexico, if the cop is unsure of something, he either calls in a supervisor or takes you to the station for evaluation, whichever is more convenient for the cop. if they got you on a juicy issue, you could be there for a while and you might have to come up with some money to stay out of jail. perhaps you are not aware of how things operate in mexico, well that's just plain stupid.
you do not have miranda rights. you have no right to privacy, no right to a speedy trial, no right to an attorney before questioning ,[b]you are presumed guilty until proven innocent.[/b]
the place is crawling with ****s, and good luck if you have any nude pictures of anyone other than your spouse. if you have nude pics of ninas then you are severely fucked. don't worry, the cops will not play games; you're ass is gone.
you also need to remember that there are lots of people working the streets in the zona who are wanted by law enforcement in the usa. some of the worst gang bangers who fled the usa live there. i know, i've talked to them. get them on tape and you might lose the camera and who knows what else.
also know that many of the girls working in the alley are being watched by their boyfriends who are also hanging out there. they might not take to you video taping their girls.
other mongers working the zona probably don't want to be in your home movies wither. they go there to have sex with young latinas. some are lawyers, some are doctors, ministers, indian chiefs etc. they don't know who you are and maybe you should be thinking about their privacy. how would you feel if you had a camera lens following you around?
the mob might not like you filming their assets either. you better hope the cops get to you before they do, or it'll take a team of doctors to pull the camera out of your ass.
think this is all funzies? think i am kidding? cool. do what you want. have fun, be happy and have a nice time. but being fore-warned is being fore-armed. if you don't mind bad things happening to you then you have nothing to worry about!!
country john[/quote]
Good point OWL, I have over 3000 pics. (I had to take them off the computer altogether).
I think the message is to know what you are doing, to pull a camcorder out at the wrong time could be the wrong time to pull a camcorder out. I guess we're erring on the side of caution for our friend.
Now.....back tot he chicas!
Be safe and Be Nice
Country John
I went Fri night for the first time in a long time. While walking across, before the taxi stand, a guy asked me if I spoke English. Duh, I’m the most obvious gringo ever. He tried giving me a sob story about needing $12.00 for a bus ride. Just got out of jail, trying to get to Oxnard… whatever. I just keep walking and said, “Can’t help ya.” He called me a dick for not helping him. I hesitated for a second, turned, but just kept walking, not worth it.
If you were stuck in Mex wouldn’t you first just get the fuck across the border? Why would you stand near the entry turnstile? Fuck ‘em.
In the Zona I had several people giving me the “I can help you find…” routine. The one I kept getting asked was “you’re looking for, (or lost) your buddies huh?” Even some crazy looking, tore up, Gringa asked me this while I was standing on the corner checking out the girls near the Ribera across the street. I am getting good at shrugging these predators off.
I saw a lot of the same ol’ girls in the alley. While many of them were good before I wanted something new. I have pretty specific types that I like. I hung out for a long while, going back and forth from AD to HK. I met one hot girl named Erica at AB. I wasn’t looking to spend 60 + 11 (even though she bargained down to 50) on one chica though. No one else new caught my eye and I left for the first time without hooking up.
[QUOTE=Hornytraveler]"PARADITAS", means girls standing- not "parasitas" that means parasites in spanish LOL[/QUOTE]I'm thinking he knew that. And it was one of those, what do you call them? puns.
Guys:
I have contributed several detailed reports to the Tijuana forums. I hope you have found them informative and entertaining. In many cases, I've mentioned specifics like names and places. Now this has backfired into a [b]big mess[/b] for me.
Why? Some [b]Asshole[/b] here has disclosed reports from these forums to a street girl I know. He has also shown posted photos from here. I was confronted by a girl on Sunday night with these details. This mess involves several other girls, none too happy to learn of these posts and each waiting to give me holy hell for this. Even girls I never had sex with, but only mentioned in passing are pissed. The way these girls gossip, I suppose they'll have 'Wanted Posters' of me hanging in the alley by the end of the week.
This is [b]very uncool![/b] I don't need this grief.
[QUOTE=Mike 123]Guys:
I have contributed several detailed reports to the Tijuana forums. I hope you have found them informative and entertaining. In many cases, I've mentioned specifics like names and places. Now this has backfired into a [b]big mess[/b] for me.
Why? Some [b]Asshole[/b] here has disclosed reports from these forums to a street girl I know. He has also shown posted photos from here. I was confronted by a girl on Sunday night with these details. This mess involves several other girls, none too happy to learn of these posts and each waiting to give me holy hell for this. Even girls I never had sex with, but only mentioned in passing are pissed. The way these girls gossip, I suppose they'll have 'Wanted Posters' of me hanging in the alley by the end of the week.
This is [b]very uncool![/b] I don't need this grief.[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear about the mishaps, sadly this is something that happens more than you think.
Too many punks. One or some of your reports might of put a dent on some loser who read it. Maybe fucked one of his favorites that in his little own world considers her HIS novia. So he took a vow to taint your presence in TJ. Very sad if that was the case.
Or maybe just some prick who doens't like you?
The girls talk and talk and talk, it's incredible their own network. One girl from one corner of the zona talks and eventually it will get to the other corner.
Again, sorry to hear about this shit.
[QUOTE=Streetlooker]I can say I never have had a fat ugly girl with a good heart so I guess I would not like TJ all that much . I hope like hell I NEVER find myself in the arms of one either.[/QUOTE]
In a forum full of destinations, why to choose reading precisely about the one you don't like that much?
[QUOTE=Mike 123]Guys:
I have contributed several detailed reports to the Tijuana forums. I hope you have found them informative and entertaining. In many cases, I've mentioned specifics like names and places. Now this has backfired into a [b]big mess[/b] for me.
Why? Some [b]Asshole[/b] here has disclosed reports from these forums to a street girl I know. He has also shown posted photos from here. I was confronted by a girl on Sunday night with these details. This mess involves several other girls, none too happy to learn of these posts and each waiting to give me holy hell for this. Even girls I never had sex with, but only mentioned in passing are pissed. The way these girls gossip, I suppose they'll have 'Wanted Posters' of me hanging in the alley by the end of the week.
This is [b]very uncool![/b] I don't need this grief.[/QUOTE]
Sorry to hear about this. What probably happened was that the Asshole was trying to impress the girl by supplying her with "inside" information hoping to gain her favor. This is usually the case. There have been reports of PLM's waltzing into Adelitas with an armful of printouts containing trip reports on a particular girl. All hell broke loose.
All you have to do to fix it is waive your wallet at the girls. They have a short memory when it comes to this stuff. When you get the chance, tell them the reports were favorable (if they were). Most of the girls know about the boards anyway.
Money talks mate.
Country John
Yes she is very nice and I like her tits.
Greetings.
Seasoned monger from east coast here. I will be visiting SD in September and planning on hitting Tijuana at least 1 afternoon and 1 night.
I've done Adelitas/HK a few times (great fun I might add). But am planning on street girls this time. I'd appreciate some of your PM's if you are interested in sharing info or possibly going with me. I'd feel better doing the street girl thing and the alley if I wasn't alone.
On a side note. San Diego streetwalkers are as hot as I've seen anywhere from your pics. You lads are lucky.
Thanks for the good info on your forum, and stay safe.
Doc
Well I was down in TJ about a month ago and had breakfast and decided to get a SW. Well I made the mistake of picking up this chick with a bad attitude. It was my fault for not negotiating wisely and not asking what her what I was getting. Didn't to cbj just wanted mish. She told me she charged by position wich made this my worst TJ experiance. Only wanted mish and wanted extra for CG. Be carefull fellow mongers YMMV
She has bad attitude written all over her face. Just look at her face and body language. This should have been your first sign.
There are also many girls who are very nice and fun to be with. Just need to find one with good attitude and likes you.
[QUOTE=Silvernitrate]Well I was down in TJ about a month ago and had breakfast and decided to get a SW. Well I made the mistake of picking up this chick with a bad attitude. It was my fault for not negotiating wisely and not asking what her what I was getting. Didn't to cbj just wanted mish. She told me she charged by position wich made this my worst TJ experiance. Only wanted mish and wanted extra for CG. Be carefull fellow mongers YMMV[/QUOTE]
Silvernitrate,
If you would of done your homework and researched a little on this board you would of known what you experienced is the norm.
[QUOTE=Silvernitrate]Well I made the mistake of picking up this chick with a bad attitude. It was my fault for not negotiating wisely and not asking what her what I was getting. Didn't to cbj just wanted mish. She told me she charged by position wich made this my worst TJ experiance. Only wanted mish and wanted extra for CG. Be carefull fellow mongers YMMV[/QUOTE]
very nice pic of Martha the ice queen... how do you took it?
btw... how was your mish experience? Can you describe?
Mayte is a girl from around 25yo working from 5~6pm to midnight. She can be found right in the entrance of the hole to the mini-hotel. She's from Puebla but always say she's from Mexico City. Not a slim girl but has a nice face, good legs, big butt and nice tits.
This must be my 10th experience with her and the things are getting better every time. I always pay 30+room and that includes kisses (she has nice lips), the cbj, all possitions I want but the best of all... greek.
Her hole is so tight and clean. She's always crying that my dick is big; she calls me Mr. Vergudo, hehe, but as we laugh I keep trying a deeper penetration.
I like this girl. You will like her too.
[QUOTE=Toad Tamer]Silvernitrate,
If you would of done your homework and researched a little on this board you would of known what you experienced is the norm.[/QUOTE]Yeah ive been there before but I was in a rush to get a girl. I made a mistake and learned from it. It wasnt my first time picking up a tj sw and I should have known better.
TJnightwalker Mish was ok nothing special ive had better. she was deffintaley watching the clock.
As I explained to some friends when I saw this pic for the first time in another website, the lady you can see back from Martha is her... how to call her... guardian? madrota? sister of milk? lover?
Martha goes to the room with locals only... If you are american then you must be a lucky guy. All of her 15 minutes lovers must be approved by the guardian lady first. Martha will check for her approval first and then will say yes or no to the horny customers.
Silver... can you describe her body without those clothes? She has a yummy body and of course, I am not one of the lucky guys. :)
[QUOTE=TJnightwalker]Silver... can you describe her body without those clothes? She has a yummy body and of course, I am not one of the lucky guys. :)[/QUOTE]Yes shes about a solid 8. 5, she has a tight tummy no stretch marks and nice little boobs. Not hard on the eyes at all face is somewhat cute. She was the best looking SW at that time in the morning thats why I chose her but I rushed into it and paid dearly by doing so. Id even do her again after some better negotiating. Like I said YMMV good luck.
She's back! she's back!
Once again her old spot at the Eduardo Hotel.
She moved from the street to Chicago about 2 years ago and became a bar girl, but suddenly dissapeared... now I know she went to hometown Puebla and according to her there's no boyfriend aka padrote in sight... yeah right.
Ahh Crystal... not the best but a lovely baby... oh yes!
Favorite position with Crys: Doggie. Find out why...
Bad experiences: This is the main reason I avoid TJ. The service that the sg's give is very inconsistent unless you find a regular. I have only found 1 or 2 sg's that I have been truly satisfied with. It's quite common for sg's to refuse to finish you off. I find this extemely irritating.
I don’t agree with this at all, as most my experiences have been very good with SGs. Better then most the bar girls in my opinion.
I have never had a SG not want to finish me off and I have never heard of anyone having this problem in the 10-15 years of going to tj.
If this is happening to you then you must be one dirty, ugly mofo or doing something very wrong to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] them off and or making them feel uncomfortable.
[QUOTE=Hizark21]Bad experiences: This is the main reason I avoid TJ. The service that the sg's give is very inconsistent unless you find a regular. I have only found 1 or 2 sg's that I have been truly satisfied with. It's quite common for sg's to refuse to finish you off. I find this extemely irritating.[/QUOTE]
Flap... I agree with you.
Hizark... in a regular day there are more than 100 girls to choose and as you must know, on a weekend night you can find 300 or more. Even that I have favorites I always take the chance to test new ones and yes, some will give you a quality different than others but not at the lowest level you are talking about.
Mongering is an adventure. Play the game.
Has anyone ever taken 2 girls? I spent the night in TJ last night and this morning a little past 8 I took a walk through the alley to see what it was like that time of day. Well as I was walking there were girls out at that time and I was approached by 2 that asked if wanted 2 girls. Is that common? I am kind of new to this area of TJ.
[QUOTE=Hizark21]Bad experiences: This is the main reason I avoid TJ. The service that the sg's give is very inconsistent unless you find a regular. I have only found 1 or 2 sg's that I have been truly satisfied with. It's quite common for sg's to refuse to finish you off. I find this extemely irritating.[/QUOTE]
The REASON why we go to the Zona is VARIETY, how can you have VARIETY when everyone is consistent? If you want to have a regular get married.
The SG'd don't have all day to pop you. They figure you're horney enough to pay them to fuck you. If you don't pop, that's your problem unless they are not really girls after all! You pay for 20 minutes, you get 20 minutes. If you're a long pop then buy an hour.
You might try some of the boutique escourt services if you are looking for a fabulous blow your mind time. The SG'd are there to get you off, plain and simple. PM me if you want a referral.
Be safe and be nice
Country John
Finally made it to the zona and had a few hours to experience the street scene...here goes:
First. SW in TJ are HOT. The marginal difference between looks of SW and bar girls isn't worth 3X the price in my opinion. Service was the same in my experiences. Second. They dress like hot bar girls. All of them were wearing tiny skirts and sexy high heels. It was great to walk the alley and just see the choices available.
Third. It is soooo safe to walk around there in the day. Unless you are a drunk a-hole or are doing something to draw attention to yourself (dressing in expensive flashy clothes, wearing your bling-bling, projecting an atttitude to the locals, etc.) you are totally safe. Dress down, be courteous, and its the safest mongering experience you will ever have.
All of the girls I chose were working in the alley...all are recommended.
Win: Lorena
Tight young body and sweet girl...tried to add-on sale a little much once we were in the room, but it was not excessive. smokin little body...and wearing the tiniest of skirts and tops.
25 beans (5 room) cbj, cfs multi position
Place: Marisol
A pleaser. Great legs and face. Willing to do anything, anyhow for the right offer (which was little to nothing :) ). By far the most liberal and GFE experience of the day. wore her high heels during the session which i love. Anything i wanted (including bareback anal) was on the menu for less than 10 more...maybe next time.
25 beans (3 room) bbbj cfs multi position
Show: Guadalupe
The great famous Guadalupe. She was really good...maybe great. gave the best cbj and cfs of the day...she just knows what shes doing and does it well. plus she's a hottie and a little closer to my age, which was a nice change-up.
25 (5 room) cfs cbj multi position
Total damage:
trolley to SD: 5
cabs in TJ: 8
mints/gum: 1
condoms: 4
lorena: 30
marisol: 28
guadalupe: 30
total: 106
Thats alot of entertainment for 106 boys...viva TJ
Doc
The only thing that would make TJ better would be hot white girls
[QUOTE=Country John]The REASON why we go to the Zona is VARIETY, how can you have VARIETY when everyone is consistent? If you want to have a regular get married.
The SG'd don't have all day to pop you. They figure you're horney enough to pay them to fuck you. If you don't pop, that's your problem unless they are not really girls after all! You pay for 20 minutes, you get 20 minutes. If you're a long pop then buy an hour.
You might try some of the boutique escourt services if you are looking for a fabulous blow your mind time. The SG'd are there to get you off, plain and simple. PM me if you want a referral.
Be safe and be nice
Country John[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Hiszark21] I have only found 1 or 2 sg's that I have been truly satisfied with.[/QUOTE]
Really? I've found many satisfying SG's, but you have to have your radar up to catch some chemistry, otherwise walk away to the next one.
[QUOTE=Ray777] I was approached by 2 that asked if wanted 2 girls. Is that common? [/QUOTE]
Not so common, but not unheard of, had the offer several times. Never seemed like a good value. I certainly wouldn't do it unless one of them was a proven past performer that could be trusted. Otherwise, I suspect it would be double the money and half the effort for the girls.
[QUOTE=Country John]You pay for 20 minutes, you get 20 minutes. If you're a long pop then buy an hour. [/QUOTE]Yes, and by the way, I would much rather spend $60 for a real hour with a choice SG than $60 for less than half an hour at Adelitas. And the SG will appeciate it much more. Plus, you can take her back to your own room where there is no knock on the door. Often these turn into long, memorable sessions.
[QUOTE=cool]The only thing that would make TJ better would be hot white girls.[/QUOTE]No way. The flip side of the hot white girl is the terrible white girl attitude. I'll take a TJ Mexicana 8 days a week!
Mike
I drive for hours to get away from them. A hot Latina has the gringa beat by miles and miles. I live with a Maya girl in TJ at the moment. She is a hottie.
Mike 123 your observations are spot on. I think it was Gabriella de Pueba who told me she enjoys sex with guys she likes and the assholes get in, get off and get out as soon as possible. Says a lot eh?
Be safe and be nice
Country John
Well I decided at the spur of the moment to drive down to TJ and see what its like on a Friday night. There was very little traffic going in and I got there after about a 3 hour drive. I parked at a parking lot in front of Chicago club 5$ for 12 hours. Only thing is that you have to leave them your keys and they give you a ticket. After I dropped off my Car I went straight to adelita bar, it has been years since I've been there and it was packed shoulder to shoulder. This isnt really my scene since I was alone and felt akward not having any buddies around.
I then wanted to do a run down of the SG that were available at 12-1 am. I started on constitucion and walked up until got to Callejon Coahuilla and checked out the scene there got the normal psst psst from serveral ladies mostly the uglier ones and even 2 girls went for my sweater wich I shook off. I then went back up towards Constitucion towards first and crossed the street at first and went back down constitucion there really wasnt anything that caught my eye. I ended up in chicago club wich was also packed and I couldnt even get to the bar to order a drink.
After all that walking I went to the restraunt next to miami club and ordered a orchata. I needed the rest after all that walking. I remebered spotting some decent looking girls in front of the Club Hong Kong. So after I finished my drink I walked again onlky at a slower pace to get a better look at the girls and after I got my first Psst I decided to chat and The girl was not bad looking she had red boy shirts and knee high boots. After asking what I was getting If we went to a room she replied with a vulgar response and really made me lose intrest. I remebered in the past a SG who had a similar response and was a bore in bed. I moved on and kept walking.
I spotted Ana from Durango I didn't get her age but I'll describe her maybe someone here has had her before. She was wearing silver eye makeup with glitter. She had on sexy school outfit and is about 5"6 pretty face wich resembles penelope cruz but with a pointy nose. She is very thin id say somewhere around 100-110# So After reading here and getting good advice I chatted with her quite a bit before we made a deal of 25 for todo sin ropa 6 for the room and I was really excited to see what was behind those clothes. Well once in the room she didn't waste time in taking of her clothes and helping me out with mine. She has had a baby so she does have stretch marks but that didn't really bother me since she was total GFE from the begining. She started with a slow cbj and asked If I Wanted cg wich I did. She was very easy to work with she would do what I asked if I said slower or faster she would do just that. I could see she was getting tired so I decided to go to work and let her lay down on the bed. I'll also add that she was holding my rod while she was riding cg and also when I was on top with her legs on my chest. I like this cus she would squeeze it and only make me harder. I also have a crazy foot fetish so when I was pounding her sweet little pussy I was also carresing and having her feet touch my face. Well After about 10 mins of straight pounding I got pretty tired and asked her if she would finish me off with a hr. I didn't get to finish but was very satisfied. I gave her a few extra dollers and cents for the A+ service.
Now for the best part of the night. After having been content with Ana's service I felt like I still needed to get a finished properly. I crossed the street after leaving the hotel and right before charrita club I heard a psst and I looked back and was suprised to see a very good looking sg. Her name is Elizabeth and she is from Hidalgo. She is about 5'3 and about a solid 8 maybe 9. She has shoulder legth straight her and like I said a very pretty face. I also decided to chat with her before we went to the hotel. I what she offered and said 20 for 2 positions. I then asked how much for for sin ropa she said 10 wich made me laugh and I said thats to high she agreed to do it for 5. She told me about 2 options for the hotel a cheap 5 doller one or a 6 doller one with a bathroom and a better bed. Speaking from experiance the 5 doller ones have really crappy beds. I will never go to those rooms again.
I told her lets go to the 6 doller one and just like Ana she was amazing total GFE. I couldnt belive how much she was into me. I guess I must have said the right things. I feel bad for my fellow mongers who don't speak spanish fluently and can't rap to a sg to get her feeling comfortable. Well once in the room she also got down to buisness quick she undressed and I was pleased that she had a very tight body and very cute little tits. She then asked me to stand in front of her for a HJ to get me going. I then told her I would rather lay down since my legs were tired from the last round I had with ana. She had no problem with that and got my rok hard in no time. One thing I also liked about elizabeth was that she didn't take of her high heels wich made it sexy for me and I had always wanted to do it that way with a sg. She then threw on the jimmy hat and proceded with a awesome cg. I was really into it and she would do as I asked slower or faster. After letting her do me cg I was rested up enough to let thrust her. I then lifted her with my hips and started to thrust her little frame wich she also enjoyed and me some amazing sounds. I also enjoyed this very much becuase the spikes of her heels would touch the back of my thighs making it very pleasureable. I looked at my clock and time was almost up. I knew elizabeth was tired since she did most of the work so I asked for a HJ. I really wanted to finish. So she hopped off and started to the HJ at a nice pace and I was ready to blow my load so she got me really worked up and I climaxed with so much pleasure I had never done it like that before I don't know if it was cus she was so nice to me or that she really knew how to push my buttons right. I still can't get over how much of a gfe it was for me I was totally beat after that session and was ready to head home. That is how the best night of my life took place. Sorry if the story is to long for some but I really wanted to get all the details so I never forget.
Stay safe fellow mongers
SN
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I am fairly picky so that eliminates a lot of sg's The other thing is that I go primarilly for bj's. A lot of sg's refuse to do this. I just find that the price and service is better in San Diego when you factor the cost of gas and the hotel.
Country John
I have had a lot of sg's refuse to finish before the time is up.
[QUOTE=Hizark21]I am fairly picky so that eliminates a lot of sg's The other thing is that I go primarilly for bj's. A lot of sg's refuse to do this. I just find that the price and service is better in San Diego when you factor the cost of gas and the hotel.
Country John
I have had a lot of sg's refuse to finish before the time is up.[/QUOTE]
Silver, excellent EXCELLENT TR.
Hizark21, I don't want to come off like I'm some kind of pussy guru, I am not. Nor am I anything special otherwise. But I can safety say that being "fairly picky" is your problem.
Listen up: Chicas don't mind if you're nervous, chicas don't mind if you're rushed, chicas don't mind if you're "all business" but if you come across like you don't care, or you have an attitude that you are "above" them etc., they do respond to that and bad service is the result.
Now I don't know you and you're probably a fabulous individual. But if you are putting attitude out there, the chicas will spot it and even though they are wh5ores, they are humans with some sense of dignity. They will not give you the service you might otherwsie deserve and more often than not, you'll be leaving the room with a full sack.
The Zona is about getting laid. It's not about exercizing your attitude or playing some game other than bargaining for excellent service with some beautiful women. I would suggest that you be nice to the girl you take in. I've only had one girley not finish me, even when I went over. She was the wrong choice to start with however.
You're going to do your thing, I'm gonna do mine. But sometimes a little feedback helps and I hope that's how you interpret this post. Maybe some day we'll get together over a beer.
Be Safe and Be Nice
Country John
Hizark, must be very interesting to meet you. I can easily count more than a dozen girls in a 9~10 quality, face and body. Picky? Damn... what are you looking for?
Also, believe me, most of the girls do blow jobs. Money is the key, is not free.
How much you will pay for a car seat blow job in the US? Do you need a beauty model to do that?
I prefer sw's with a lighter complexion. Most of the SG's want $30 for a bj and want extra for sin ropa. Why should I pay that price when I can pay the same for a sw in San Diego. Sure some charge $40, but like I said before when you factor in gas and hotel the price is about the same. The bj's are also a lot better with the sw's in the US. I have never gotten a really great bj in TJ. The other thing is that I don't like the hot weather in TJ.
Finding good sw's takes a lot more time and work but it's worth it. The key is to find the ones you like and get their ph #'s.
Hizark -- Please explain this again. You compare San Diego and TJ and then say that you don't like the hot weather in TJ. You must be a hell of a meteorologist to notice the difference.
I could understand your complaining about the hot weather if you were mongering in Bangkok or Phnom Penh, but TJ? I didn't even use my fan, this past summer, and it was one of the hottest summers on record.
Hizark,
Try Araceli. No one can complain about her blowjobs. $30 is enough for sin ropa, the bbbj and as many positions as you need to pop.
And there are more sg's for same service and price.
Part of the reason is that I generally walk from the border. Also compare the weather and the weather is generally 5-10 degrees hotter in TJ. Today I checked and it was only 3 degrees hotter in TJ, but this not normal. If I do visit TJ then I usually go after 3pm.
In the end the main reason is that the cost of TJ is about the same in San Diego after you factor in all the costs.
Street Hunting.
Chica
SD: $30 bj only.....TJ: $30 nude, all positions, cbj/bbbj, cim, doggie, even greek...
Hotel:
SD: $40~100........TJ: $3 for 15 min. or $20 or less for an hour.
Good Food:
SD: $20...............TJ: $10 or less.
Transportation:
SD: $you tell us.....TJ: From the border to heaven $5
and keep comparing...
TJnightwalker
You forgot the most important comparrison...
SD - Getting cought by SD finest, spending time in their special accomodations, appearing in court to plea your inocence, and explaining to your wife or significant other what happened..... PRICELESS!!!!!!!
I tried a TJ streetwalker for the very first time Tuesday night. I picked someone named Rubi who was standing at the very end of the alley near Hong Kong Bar. She was wearing pink and was kinda cute. She said $20, I said ok. We went into the $5 room and it was $10 more to take off all her clothes, $10 more for a BJ, and $5 more for her to be on top, none of which I agreed to.
She just laid there and turned her head to the side and stared at the wall and it was the most pathetic performance ever. I wasn't turned on at all by this so I just stopped without popping and put my clothes back on and told her in spanish that she was boring.
Then I went to AB and drank a couple beers but didn't go with anyone.
Then I walked back to the border and was stopped and frisked two different times. The first time was when I crossed Revolution, they asked where I was coming from and instead of playing dumb I said "I'm coming from Adelita's". They didn't seem to care that I was on a whoring trip. The second time was at the short walking bridge right after the taxi area and there must have been 10 cops hanging out there in the shadows. One cop was kissing and groping on two girls. WTF? I already had my ID out and was ready to assume the position. They asked me the usual round of questions and let me go without taking any money.
China man,
If you are walking the alley between 10am ~ 6pm, try to find Araceli. She can be found also at the west end of the alley, in the southern sidewalk. Long straight hair, white skin, nice face, long legs. For a total of $30 + $3 for the room you will have a bbbj, daty (if you like that), 69 (also if you want... just try to be the first in line :) ), mish, side, doggie... well... all the positions you want if you are a creative chinese guy.
For Araceli, you mean as you exit HK Bar cross the street and walk about 20 feet to the RIGHT (towards the corner)? That is the DARK corner and generally the ones on the NORTH side are younger and cuter at that end of the alley. In the middle, on other side across from Miami, there are a group of hotties.
Does Aracelki allow CIM? If so, might check her out tomorrow night. Thanks TJstreetwalker.
[QUOTE=TJnightwalker]China man,
If you are walking the alley between 10am ~ 6pm, try to find Araceli. She can be found also at the west end of the alley, in the southern sidewalk. Long straight hair, white skin, nice face, long legs. For a total of $30 + $3 for the room you will have a bbbj, daty (if you like that), 69 (also if you want... just try to be the first in line :) ), mish, side, doggie... well... all the positions you want if you are a creative chinese guy.[/QUOTE]
Thanks I will definitely try Ariceli! No thanks to the daty though. (And I'm not chinese, I'm caucasion. The name comes from frequent traveling to China.)
[QUOTE=Surfer]For Araceli, you mean as you exit HK Bar cross the street and walk about 20 feet to the RIGHT (towards the corner)?[/quote]
Yes.
[QUOTE=Surfer]Does Araceli allow CIM?[/QUOTE]
Yes.
Do not expect an ugly girl, she's cute enough, nice silky body, nice small tits, nice pussy and good looking ass, clean smell.
Be nice with her. Our kids must eat. :)
will look for Araceli tonight to give her a mouthful! No daty for me in TJ either. Yes SOME chicas love it, but I keep my mouth out of other people's business. Whom should I tell Araceli referred me to her (so you get a discount next time)?
[QUOTE=TJnightwalker]Yes.
Yes.
Do not expect an ugly girl, she's cute enough, nice silky body, nice small tits, nice pussy and good looking ass, clean smell.[/QUOTE]
Small tits? Not unless she's had breast reduction surgery lately.
[QUOTE=Reinaldo]Small tits? Not unless she's had breast reduction surgery lately.[/QUOTE]
Her tits are pretty big. I was slapping them around early Saturday morning.
Then later that night I saw some guy bringing her back from the Leyva. It's good to know that she travels.
well, my hands are big :)
Yes, she travels. One of the customers take her to a Hotel located in Segunda street... that's 2 blocks away. She charges 100 for the hour.
Heard something that she's planing another trip to Veracruz.. and as some of you know, those trips take even a month or more.
[QUOTE=TJnightwalker]
Heard something that she's planing another trip to Veracruz.. and as some of you know, those trips take even a month or more.[/QUOTE]
She's told at least one monger that she's retiring-again-in Diciembre.
Did aracelli shave her armpits or does she still have an afro there.
hair is there...
but hey! that's s turn on...very european.
Some sg's shave their armpits but then let it grow for a week and looks disgusting. I prefer a grown armpit hair than just the roots and of course, a totally clean shave is delicious.
They always share the apartment with amigas or their brother...
yeah right..
OWL, better stay away from the chica's problem or it will become yours. Every chica means good money for the padrote and they will not thank you to be in the middle.
Just to give an example.
Imagine how rich Araceli (and many others) could be if she had a bank account and all the money she's making is saved there. Winter is coming and I am sure we will see her again, dressed with the famous black leather jacket as every year.
If there are 10 chicas without padrote, I think that's a BIG number.
None will openly say they have a padrote... they will deny it, but they are there every day, even working in a rainy day waiting for customers with their wet legs and shoes. They must meet a toll per day or will suffer a consecuence.
[QUOTE=TJnightwalker]Just to give an example.
Imagine how rich Araceli (and many others) could be if she had a bank account and all the money she's making is saved there. Winter is coming and I am sure we will see her again, dressed with the famous black leather jacket as every year.
If there are 10 chicas without padrote, I think that's a BIG number.
None will openly say they have a padrote... they will deny it, but they are there every day, even working in a rainy day waiting for customers with their wet legs and shoes. They must meet a toll per day or will suffer a consecuence.[/QUOTE]
Many of the girls do have bank accounts. A surprising number of the club girls do as well. TaKe Salma de Hong Kong for example, when I was TLNing with her she had over 3k in the bank - that was profit. She would transfer the money to her home town and then fly home for a few months.
You'd be surprised what many of these girls do on their own time and who they are when they're not selling cookie.
Many of the girls have their spouse/boyfriend watching them when they work. The reason is that they think the girl is holding out.
A lot of shit goes down with the girls. That's why I suggest people be nice. You want a good session and the best way to get that is to have the girl pass the sqweeze test on the street and being nice at the same time.
One of my best lines was "OK, it's $20 for me to do you right?" girl nods nead yes "Then how much for YOU to do ME?" Girl smiles, raises price by ten bucks then it's off to the hrooom.
Prostituting is a dirty business, few of the girls are solo and they all get a "hard" time.
Country John
[QUOTE=Country John]
One of my best lines was "OK, it's $20 for me to do you right?" girl nods nead yes "Then how much for YOU to do ME?" Country John[/QUOTE]
How about a Spanish lesson on this one?
There are 2 corners... Is she from the south side (najera hotel)?
If so, none of those girls are a dream come true. I just keep walking...
[QUOTE=TJnightwalker]She's back! she's back!
Once again her old spot at the Eduardo Hotel.
She moved from the street to Chicago about 2 years ago and became a bar girl, but suddenly dissapeared... now I know she went to hometown Puebla and according to her there's no boyfriend aka padrote in sight... yeah right.
Ahh Crystal... not the best but a lovely baby... oh yes!
Favorite position with Crys: Doggie. Find out why...[/QUOTE]Amen brotha.
I just found Crystal this afternoon and she is PERFECT doggie style. A beautiful, clean, sweet, and sexy woman who is a complete treat for anyone lucky enough to be with her. I hope I can visit her again soon.
Doc
I arrived in the alley around 11 pm and immediately started walking around. It was cold out but the girls were dressed for business. while walking South just before HK I spotted a very good looking SG named Areli. We talked breifly and a deal was made. Upstairs we went, the room was 5. After she undressed she immediately went to work with CBJ. Afterwards we tried mish and doggie.
All in all very good service, great attitude, excellent body. Original deal 25, propina 10. No rush, in fact she told the towel boy to come back in 10 minutes while she finished.
Good hunting and lets keep the prices down.
Posted similar report on another site. On Constitucion, sorry not sure about other detailed location.
24 yo with 34D about 5 ft tall, agreed to $20 for FS sin ropa.
Get to room wants money up front. No! Says OK. Off with clothes and she has rolls of fat around belly. Turned off and ask for BJ. She says no only fucky. Sucky $5 more. OK. Mediocre job so CG which is just as poor. Tell her to go back to BJ. After a few minutes says 15 min. Up. Did not argue because was turned off anyway. BTW, 34D natural and firm but not worth the experience just for that. Avoid.
What's CG? Abbreviatons say it stands for Club Girl.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]What's CG? Abbreviatons say it stands for Club Girl.[/QUOTE]
In this case you are wrong; the "CG" he is talking about stands for "cowgirl", or girl-on-top.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]What's CG? Abbreviatons say it stands for Club Girl.[/QUOTE]Also try clicking on "Abbreviations" on the to of youre screen.
[QUOTE=Member #3063]Also try clicking on "Abbreviations" on the to of youre screen.[/QUOTE]Duh, That's where I got the definition.
[size=-1]This is a trip report in four parts as follows:
Part One – A Fine Afternoon (posted in Tijuana Reports)
Part Two – The Grim Reaper (posted in Miami Bar Reports)
Part Three – My Sweet Freebie (posted in Hong Kong Club Reports)
Part Four – Street Adventures (posted in Streetwalker Reports)[/size]
[b]Part Four – Street Adventures[/b]
I go back to Hotel Porton and quickly shower. It's raining lightly. At the entrance of Hotel Porton is a tiny cute woman who says her name is Laura. I ask her back to my room for $20. She is maybe 90 pounds with a nice trim figure, very light skinned, medium brown hair cut short, and fine facial features. She could easily pass for a gorgeous little spinner college coed rather than a TJ street hooker. Clothes off, she's amazing. But she won't take off her bra and wants more money for a bj. Dammit, I forgot the basics of negotiation in TJ! Geez! Oh, and now I notice that she has a bad cold. We get started and she's basically a dead fish. Crap, I really blew it choosing this one. I send her on her way.
I head back to my room and crash. About 4:45 a.m. I wake and want some more, so I drag myself out of bed. It's still raining. I walk out to the street and wander around a bit. It's pretty slim pickings. But I see a girl that might be okay over at the corner huddled under the eves of closed newsstand. I walk over and check her out. Her name is Maria and she looks pretty to me, although a bit, um, let's say sturdy. She agrees to $20. Again I forget close the deal with sin ropa and sucky. (Insert grinding teeth here).
Back in the room, I like her face and dark brown hair. she's bit tentative but relaxes after I hold gently her for a moment. She's got whopper chi chi's but wants ten dollars more for me to play with the twins. I decline. We lay down on the bed and I throw a blanket over both of us and we cuddle for warmth. She is freezing cold. After ten minutes of this, we do the deed. It was okay though not especially memorable. However, I like her personality and I am thinking I could likely win her over with one or two more sessions. She definitely has potential to develop.
I let her out and sleep. I wake at about 7:30 and shower and shave. I head out into the Alley. Bar girls and club workers are making their way home. Not too many working girls around and it's still drizzling. I head down to Restaurante Praga to get a hot tea. Restaurante Praga is the one attached to Hotel Las Cascadas. I help myself to some manzanilla tea, pay a dollar, and have a seat. I really wish I had brought a jacket since it's cold and rainy. I step out and see Miss Perfect walking down the street on the way to work. She sees me and flashes a big grin. She knows I am waiting for her.
Fifteen minutes later, Miss Perfect is at her post on the northwest corner of the Alley. I walk up to her and escort her back to my room. She is my friend and confidant. As always I recount my adventures of the night before with her. We laugh and enjoy discussing my sweet freebie of the night before. Miss Perfect is just that, beautiful, sweet, and fun to be with. She has a maturity of thought and calming presence beyond her years and hasn't been ruined by her chosen vocation. She knows everything I like and never disappoints. She the champ of covered blow jobs. She rocks me every time. Enough of this. After our session, we walk out to the street and into Fruteria Avitia. She buys a coffee for herself and a hot tea for me.
Across the street up on Constitución, I see Andrea and excuse myself from Miss Perfect. Andrea asks why I don't have a jacket on. She points down the street to Aguila which is on the corner. She says I can get a jacket there. I ask if she wants to go to the room with me. Of course. We walk over to Hotel Irma where many of the girls on this side of Constitución work out of. I pay 50 pesos for the room. It's cold in here. Since I just popped with Miss Perfect, I end up just petting with Andrea and talking. Like many of the regular, full-time street girls she's really a nice woman. I always enjoy her company. The knock comes, we walk out into the lobby and she gets an umbrella out of her locker and gives it to me with instructions to get my ass over to the store.
I head over to Aguila at the corner of Primera and Constitución to find a jacket. Ninety pesos later, I have wind breaker slicker that would cost three times as much in the USA. Nothing fancy but well suited for basic rain protection. As I head back down the hill, I see Miss NoKisses has arrived at her post. She says let's get something to eat over a Hard Rock Cafe. I agree and we walk up to Revolución. A gust of wind turns the umbrella inside out. Damn!
Hard Rock Cafe is just opening we follow in behind a group of tourists from Austria. The waiter recognizes us and gives me a menu in English and Miss NoKisses a menu in Spanish. I purposely hold my menu upside down and complain to my companion that it's in Español. She bumps me on the head and turns my menu upright, laughing. I decide on grilled skirt steak and she chooses fajitas camerones. We hold hands the whole time and joke with each other. Hard Rock is priced like a typical tourist restaurant. Our total comes to 433 pesos. I pay and we walk out headed over to Aguila to buy a replacement umbrella for Andrea. We find one for only 22 pesos. Andrea isn't around right now so we head to my hotel room. At the room we get naked quickly and jump in bed. My belly is full and I realize how tired I really am. I end up falling asleep with her in my arms. She wakes me at 12:45 to packup. Checkout time is 1:00 p.m.
As we're leaving, I tell her I want to introduce her to Miss Perfect. She hesitates but then agrees. They both know who each other is, through me, but have never met. I introduce Miss NoKisses as my novia and Miss Perfect as my amiga. Miss Perfect catches on right away and compliments her as my novia and agrees that she has the lesser position of just my amiga. This is just my way of bringing a bit more harmony to my relationship with Miss NoKisses who is jealous and a little insecure. I'm honest with each of them, no stories and no lies.
We walk up the hill and find Andrea there. We apologize for breaking her umbrella and present her with the new one. Andrea says she's glad I finally got some sense and bought a jacket. I thank her for taking care of me. I take the broken umbrella with me as I say goodbye to both. It's time to head home.
[b]End of Part Four – This concludes my trip report.[/b]
Where Miss Perfect stands, in the Zona.
Cool story telling Mike. You really show just how friendly and cool some of these prostitutes. Wait let me rephrase that to "chicas" can really be.
OK fellow mongers. My first foray into TJ is about to take place. Getting way to risky up in Chula Vista and ECB. A little apprehensive about the whole deal. Read lots of posts about folks having problems with the cops, etc. Not sure of where to go, what to say to get them naked and then get the whole suck/fuck experience. Where should I go, and what's the right cost? I'll be going about 11: 00 in the morning and staying a couple of hours. Should I walk over, take cab? What bar. Where's that wonderful playground the alley I keep hearing about. I want's lots of choice. Need something to get and old guy like me (50) going and want a couple of fucks. Appreciate any help and intel you all can give.
[QUOTE=Dinkers]OK fellow mongers. My first foray into TJ is about to take place. Appreciate any help and intel you all can give.[/QUOTE]
Sorry by now you have cum (hopefully) and gone. Hope you had a nice time.
[QUOTE=Dinkers]OK fellow mongers. My first foray into TJ is about to take place. Getting way to risky up in Chula Vista and ECB. A little apprehensive about the whole deal. Read lots of posts about folks having problems with the cops, etc. Not sure of where to go, what to say to get them naked and then get the whole suck/fuck experience. Where should I go, and what's the right cost? I'll be going about 11: 00 in the morning and staying a couple of hours. Should I walk over, take cab? What bar. Where's that wonderful playground the alley I keep hearing about. I want's lots of choice. Need something to get and old guy like me (50) going and want a couple of fucks. Appreciate any help and intel you all can give.[/QUOTE]
I've heard a few reports about walkers and "lean times" in the Zona. Seems the cops have a lot of people staying State-side and for good reason. The drop in business has affected the alley and the bars. Since shit rolls downhill, the walkers are getting meaner by the minute. they'll rip you then walk. So watch your pants, don;t shower alone or at least take your stuff into the shitter when you go.
It's time to be a bit more security conscious when in the Zona. don;t worry about the girls posting in the alley, they want your business or the girls in the clubs who are hurtingtoo.
ALWAYS be security minded in ANY case but more so with walkers if you take them up. Better yet, avoid them for now. Wait until the climate changes a bit. Stick to the roads well travelled, and have a good time.
Dinkers, RTFB (Read The Fucking Board). A lot of guys spend a lot of time writing up the stuff you needs to know. You can get through it in an hour or so. To summarize is impossible. It's just too much to put into one or two verses. Start with Brocktons guide. Take the time. Read it well. I know that if you do that you might come back with a question or two and we can use that as a starting point OK? Thanks.
Country John
Has the business in the zona picked up a bit this week? I'd love to come down and partake.
A couple of weeks ago, I met up with a short cutie, kinda chubby, but not really fat. Really big titties and all real too! She grabbed me by my shirt sleeve and started begging me to go upstairs. I didn't think she was much to look at 'cuz I had my radar pointed out a real hottie, but when I looked at her face, she was a 7. She wanted the normal for s&f and 5 more for sin ropa. She kept on begging so I asked her what was I not going to be able to do. She said no anal because she didn't like it. Then I figured I'd play the game to and said that that was the only thing I wanted. And I started begging her back. She finally agreed to $50 and I got her down to $40 plus the room. She was really clean and smelled good and had some really soft skin. After some sucking and f_____g, finally finished in her backside. Covered of course! It was a great experience!
ME
Location? Name? Without this info no one can gain anything from your report. It might as well be dreamware!
How much time did you spend in the room? What hotel?
Gracias
[QUOTE=Muff Eater]A couple of weeks ago, I met up with a short cutie, kinda chubby, but not really fat. Really big titties and all real too! She grabbed me by my shirt sleeve and started begging me to go upstairs. I didn't think she was much to look at 'cuz I had my radar pointed out a real hottie, but when I looked at her face, she was a 7. She wanted the normal for s&f and 5 more for sin ropa. She kept on begging so I asked her what was I not going to be able to do. She said no anal because she didn't like it. Then I figured I'd play the game to and said that that was the only thing I wanted. And I started begging her back. She finally agreed to $50 and I got her down to $40 plus the room. She was really clean and smelled good and had some really soft skin. After some sucking and f_____g, finally finished in her backside. Covered of course! It was a great experience!
ME[/QUOTE]
The zone was dead last night (Thurs)! Hope it picks up. Lots of bar girls and a few hotties on the street along with a few not so hot. Could it be that it's because it was a weekday?
[QUOTE=Muff Eater]The zone was dead last night (Thurs)! Hope it picks up. Lots of bar girls and a few hotties on the street along with a few not so hot. Could it be that it's because it was a weekday?[/QUOTE]
Well, this week is Semana Santa (Holy Week), and today is Good Friday, so that probably has something to do with the lack of activity. Also remember that Sunday is Easter, so I doubt things will get back to normal until next week.
I always love it when guys go to heavily Catholic countries during holidays (Easter, Xmas, etc.) and then wonder where all the hookers went. But at least you're reporting something, Muff. I'll be heading down Baja in the next couple of months and will stop in TJ for a streetwalker or two, why are the posts so few and far between here? Please tell me you can still get a decent-looking SG for 200 MXP (con ropa, of course).
Does anyone know if it's possible to pay for a girls STD screening to see if she's free of herpes, and then paying for her for a night or two?
Has anyone done this? Does anyone know how much it would cost?
[QUOTE=Ezinho] Please tell me you can still get a decent-looking SG for 200 MXP (con ropa, of course).[/QUOTE]
I am here to tell you that some will still go for 150 pesos bottom nude only. Many others will go full nude for 200 pesos but the vast majority of hotties want 250 to 300 pesos for full nude.
I always love Americans coming down to Mexico and wondering "what the hell, people taking days off????".
Yes, hookers can have days off too... they don't care if they miss the guys from the USA on Christmas or New Year's.
The fact that you don't have "days off" anymore, doesn't mean that other countries, be it Catholic or Christian or whatever, religion doesn't play here, can celebrate a couple of days of rest with the family... by the way, family, another "thing" that doesn't exist in the USA.
[QUOTE=Ezinho]Well, this week is Semana Santa (Holy Week), and today is Good Friday, so that probably has something to do with the lack of activity. Also remember that Sunday is Easter, so I doubt things will get back to normal until next week.
I always love it when guys go to heavily Catholic countries during holidays (Easter, Xmas, etc.) and then wonder where all the hookers went. But at least you're reporting something, Muff. I'll be heading down Baja in the next couple of months and will stop in TJ for a streetwalker or two, why are the posts so few and far between here? Please tell me you can still get a decent-looking SG for 200 MXP (con ropa, of course).[/QUOTE]
Saturday night (4/7) was hopping again! There were quite a few hotties in the alley too! Most wanted 20 + 5 for the hotel, 5 more for sin ropa, and another wanted 10 more for only sucky. One girl close to Valentine Bar offered all holes for 40 + 5. She was decent looking, but I was too tired to accept.
ME
[QUOTE=Carlos Perez]I always love Americans coming down to Mexico and wondering "what the hell, people taking days off????".
Yes, hookers can have days off too... they don't care if they miss the guys from the USA on Christmas or New Year's.
The fact that you don't have "days off" anymore, doesn't mean that other countries, be it Catholic or Christian or whatever, religion doesn't play here, can celebrate a couple of days of rest with the family... by the way, family, another "thing" that doesn't exist in the USA.[/QUOTE]
Funny but true!
CP, don't forget to mention the SIESTA time which it's a tradition in Latin America, and mongers beware! Mothers day can also be a bad day at the zona with fewer workers, Hookers are people two they too have families!
Just left AB and decided to check out the "ho stroll"(aka, the alley) for the first time. Was a little nervous since I went solo. And I don't regret it. Walked down one side, crossed the street, and checked out the other side; greeting all ladies with "Hola". Ended up doing two girls:
Rosalie (19y): I coudn't pass up this little cutie, standing near hotel cascadas. Very pretty freckled face, very petite, and very pleasant, cheerful disposition. We went for about 30 minutes, great passionate sex, all the time in mish. Cost me $25, clothes off. Gave her a couple bucks extra for tip/great service.
Elizabeth (20y, veracruz): Met Elizabeth about three minutes after finishing up with Rosalie and leaving hotal cascades. She has blond hair and freckles, very pretty. This session wasn't as good; I felt that she was bitchy and presurring me to finish ASAP. Only did mish for about ten minutes and she demanded that I finish. I told her that I felt like she was fighting me the entire time. Anyways, paid her and thanked her. Caught my cab back to the border. Glad I checked out the alley, will return in maybe 2 weeks. Still have to check out HK bar.
Overall a great night, did five girls (2 at CC, 1 at AB, and 2 alley girls). Arrived home at about 4 am. Woke up the next morning shredded. Called in to work and told my boss that I would be in after lunch.
Jay
Yes OWL, the taco stand on the corner of Nino Heroes and Coiahuila is the best. A buck a taco and a buck a soda; there are a lot of beggars there asking for money for food. I buy a taco and hand it to them. I try not to give money to the beggars; it’ll probably go to drugs.
On my last trip the taxi driver gave a friend of his a ride while he was taking me to la Zona. The guy had no arms and was flaying about the whole drive. He was imitating a kung fu fighter but he had no arms. The driver said he fried his brain on too much meth.
Before I eat I take a Pepto Bismol tablet. This can prevent Montezuma’s Revenge. Anything that touches water is suspect, especially the vegetables and even the ice water the sodas are chilled in. Make sure the meat is cooked thoroughly.
Hi Amigos,
I was thinking of going down to the zona possibly this thursday. Country John is there a nice selection on weekdays? My preference are the sg's, but I am going to get beers at AB or Bar Trop. I would love to buy you a beer amigo. Have the police hassles at the linea died down at all? I am on a tight budget and can't afford to get money taken but I guess by the time I get to the linea I will have spent all my money anyway on the chicas bonitas. Gracias
[QUOTE=I Love Pussy]Hi Amigos,
I was thinking of going down to the zona possibly this thursday. Country John is there a nice selection on weekdays? My preference are the sg's, but I am going to get beers at AB or Bar Trop. I would love to buy you a beer amigo. Have the police hassles at the linea died down at all? I am on a tight budget and can't afford to get money taken but I guess by the time I get to the linea I will have spent all my money anyway on the chicas bonitas. Gracias[/QUOTE]
Hello ILP, you can be assured that there will be something to satisfy your thirst when you hit the Zona. You should use your first time out to get accustomed to the area. Sometimes when it is crowded, like on a weekend for example, you can get overwhelmed and lose your bearings (or the whole axle if you know what I mean).
Police will always be an element in your adventures to the Zona. They know why you are there so they think you must have money. Dress down, leave the nice watch etc at home. No "tourist" type clothes. Wear old bluejeans and tennis shoes etc. Try to blend in but don't look like a bum. Spend your money in the Zona (translated: don;t take more than you think you'll need) and theat will make you a small fich for the cops if they want to play games.
BEHAVE and no being (falling down) drunk in public.
DO NOT follow anyone to a massage parlour, DO NOT go outside the Zona for sex (to a private apartment or house). DO NOT trust anyone. You are on your own so be careful (not paranoid, just careful).
I'l love to meet you for a beer, I'll be in town thursday but ties up until friday evening and might hook up with a few mongers from this site who promised to buy one for me and the girley. It would be apleasure to meet you.
Be safe and be nice
Country John
I started going down to TJ in February. Work prevents me from going on weekends so I’m a Tuesday and Wednesday guy. The only time it was slow was a cold and rainy night, but that was only once and the alley was slow, not the bars. It seems that as the weather warms up the action gets better. My last trip was on a Tuesday and all the spots had good action. I’ve been down on a couple of Sundays and it was good too. From other reports here Thurdays are good.
The locals have a saying:
“Las gallinas no ponen los juevos el lunes.”
"Chickens don’t lay eggs on Mondays."
In other words Mondays are slow cause everyone is burnt out form the weekend. However, this might not pertain to La Zona.
As far as the cops are concerned, read the thread related to crime, safety and the police. The cops are not out there to protect you.
While eating some tacos at the taco stand outside of CC this past Saturday night; I noticed two brunettes walk past me toward hotel leyva, they then turned around and walked back across the street to the opposite corner. These girls were beautiful, medium builds, nice full tits, and gorgeous fair skin. Are they twins? Does anyone else know who I'm referring to? Has anyone had any experience with them. I had ran through most of my cash and was moderately tired, so I didn't bother. But I'd definitely like to get some info on them.
Jay
[QUOTE=Jay Love]While eating some tacos at the taco stand outside of CC this past Saturday night; I noticed two brunettes walk past me toward hotel leyva, they then turned around and walked back across the street to the opposite corner. These girls were beautiful, medium builds, nice full tits, and gorgeous fair skin. Are they twins? Does anyone else know who I'm referring to? Has anyone had any experience with them. I had ran through most of my cash and was moderately tired, so I didn't bother. But I'd definitely like to get some info on them.
Jay[/QUOTE]
I was there with my girley between 930 and 1045 saturday night, eating tacos from the stand outside CC waiting on meeting up with a few other posters but I think I saw them. They would be bar girls, I think from Tropical. They looked sort of familiar and they sort of looked like they were "off duty," or at least "off the clock."
CJ,
Check your PM. I sent you a PM the other day and haven't heard back form you.
Now I owe you a few beers. Donnie
[QUOTE=Donnie D]CJ,
Check your PM. I sent you a PM the other day and haven't heard back form you.
Now I owe you a few beers. Donnie[/QUOTE]
No worries, next time you're in town, let me know. I always enjoy meeting people from the site, maybe we'll hook up next time.
Country John
[QUOTE=Country John]I was there with my girley between 930 and 1045 saturday night, eating tacos from the stand outside CC waiting on meeting up with a few other posters but I think I saw them. They would be bar girls, I think from Tropical. They looked sort of familiar and they sort of looked like they were "off duty," or at least "off the clock."[/QUOTE]It was about 2:30a when I seen them. They both had on white tops and tight jeans. Haven't been to Tropical Bar yet; is it similar to HK and Miami bars? And how much does the typical girl there want for a full-service session? We need a thread for Tropical Bar. Maybe I'll swing by there next weekend; I'd love to log in some "naked hours" with those girls.
Jay
Well if it wasn't her it doesn't matter. I'll give either a try next time. Young tight blondes are just what I like. Come to think of it, young tight redheads are good too, also young tight brunettes.
As for Crstal I haven't called her yet, I'm north of LA. But when I'm in the area I'll call her.
I went again this past friday and talked to the girls, they said that Paola hasnt been there for two days. Well, there are just a lot of them to satisfy our needs, the one that I took with me, her name is Cecilia, short, dirty blonde hair with highlights, very sweet, she said she is 21 but she looks more like 16, very beautiful tan lines, and trimmed pussy. She didnt allow me to take pictures, but she is very pretty.
The Police was everywhere at the alley on Friday, and even walked in to Hong Kong, when I was inside, and just walked around flashing their flashlights on the patrons faces.
Becareful out there guys, and have fun.
Not sure of her name, something like Salinda. Just look for the freshist and prettiest one to the left of the entrance. 18'ish from Mexico City. I've not had the pleasure yet myself but she has been reported to go for full nude $20 with locals and wants $30 from gringos for the same services.
Very classy, lighter skin, what a babe!
[QUOTE=Country John]Consider that you might go arriba at Adelitas for $60 (the girl) $12 (the hrooom), $12 (a few fichas) $1. tip for the cumboyz for 1/2 hour session and you come out a few bucks ahead.
The real question is what happens after you pop after 20 minutes? Does she usher you out of the hroom or do you get to go for the 2 pop? $110 for the hour is good, so go and get one, then post a trip report!!
Country John[/QUOTE]It looks like they're savvy in their ways. As a restaurant manager what I see here is that the goal is to raise the bar up to the $110 mark; and be viewed as a bargain, very nice. I won’t bore you with the amount paid to the girl, ficha costs, alcohol costs and overall margins to return on investment and so forth. However, CJ raises the first question a qualified monger would, and all of us should consider: is $110 for an hour or one pop? If the gal gets the same for one pop or one hour, she’ll go for the fast pop every day of the week; and no one of us can really blame her. If it is for a true hour and multiple pops, then it might, and I emphasize might, be worth it.
There are a couple of possible outcomes to consider:
Get a gal who is hot and you get more than you thought; it’s a great deal.
Get a dud and loose twice as much as two tries on the alley.
Get too drunk on 10 drinks and ruin it for yourself at twice the cost.
If mongers decide that $110 is worth the girls at New York, the drinks, and the overall experience, then it will do well.
Basically, let the free market decide. This sounds good in the ol’ U, S, of A. But this is Mexico.
Now consider this:
The entire Zona is heavily controlled. If there is any rise services in one area, then expectations are raised in another. Or conversely, if prices are higher across the street, then the lower prices here are better; never mind the fact that you must pay a price that is higher than before. The now higher prices across the street make our now higher prices here seem better. In other words, if the going rate for a suckie, fuckie, sin ropas, multiple positions yada, yada , yada, goes for $40-$60 in the alley and now the going rate for the same at the bars is now up to the $110 mark. Now $60-$80 for the same in the alley is a good deal. It is if you are on the receiving end, not the giving end.
Heck, to a good degree, if any extra money paid to the girls went directly to the girls, I would have a lot easier time coughing up the extra dough. But call me cynical, I don't think that the girls are on the top of the money pecking order of TJ. This could be a good deal for mongers, it could also cost more. I hope I'm not making this out to be more than it really is.
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Had just left CC and was ready for a SG. Circled both sides of the street twice; couldn't make up my mind between Jasmine (19y) and Sandra. But finally decided on Sandra (22y, Pueblo) standing in front of hotel "najarra", I believe. We went up for $30 sin ropa; I was really sold on her nice "augmented" rack. Three positions: CG, mish, and doggy. A pretty good lay/good moans and she thought so too. Will probably return in 2 to 4 weeks/definitely 4th of July weekend.
Jay
[QUOTE=Country John]Consider that you might go arriba at Adelitas for $60 (the girl) $12 (the hrooom), $12 (a few fichas) $1. tip for the cumboyz for 1/2 hour session and you come out a few bucks ahead.
The real question is what happens after you pop after 20 minutes? Does she usher you out of the hroom or do you get to go for the 2 pop? $110 for the hour is good, so go and get one, then post a trip report!!
Country John[/QUOTE]
This is a very good point CJ!
I always wonder myself what's the outcome when paying for an hour, if I can't pop at least twice within an hour what's the point of wasting money?
I rather pay bang, out, and comeback later for more, that way I can be sure I'm not getting rip off, and the girl walks away on me!
The only safe way to make sure that you will get two pops for 1 hour pay, is to pay half at the beginning and the other half at the end of the hour, don't trust these girls when they say the would stay whole hour, most of them are liars they won't, some of the alley girls are very smart tricking their clients,
example: You paid for sin ropa then you can touch titis but not sucky, WTF?
She said extra $, so if someone knows any better way to guarantee you whole hour with multiples, I want to know?
I had wasted a few hundred dollars for paying for extra time that I couldn't use, most girls won't help you to get yourself ready for another round, they just laid dead on the bed waiting for you to get it over with, so even with the Cialis you need to have some motivation to be ready fast, and the clock is ticking.
If the girl just laids there doing nothing but watching the spider webs on the wall, why anyone wants to pay for an hour if you can be done in 20minutes?
On the other hand if you know the girl well enough, and there's some kind of GFE go for it, but only if you know her!
I had girls reminding me every 5 minutes how much time left I got, that really turns me off.
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]The only safe way to make sure that you will get two pops for 1 hour pay, is to pay half at the beginning and the other half at the end of the hour * * * if someone knows any better way to guarantee you whole hour with multiples, I want to know * * * most girls won't help you to get yourself ready for another round * * * On the other hand if you know the girl well enough,[/QUOTE]
Horses for courses, HT. You sound like those guys who complain they can't get Cadillac margaritas in Zona bars.
The paraditas' core business is anything but multiple-pop GFEs. The first time I go with a particular paradita, it's to see what she's like and how she views her job. I don't expect to get more than her standard offering because we don't know each other. Only as she becomes more familiar with me will she reveal her true limits.
If you must to have long-term, active-help multiple pops right off the bat, then go to the girls who do that as their core business. The escorts. If you're limited to English, you'll find ads on the Internet. Otherwise there are classified ads in El Mexicano, most of the [i]hoteles de paso[/i] keep a few on tap (try La Mansión to start with), and taxi drivers always know a few semi-pros (so explain your requirements to the taxi driver).
PG
[QUOTE=Pinche Gabacho]Horses for courses, HT. You sound like those guys who complain they can't get Cadillac margaritas in Zona bars.
The paraditas' core business is anything but multiple-pop GFEs. The first time I go with a particular paradita, it's to see what she's like and how she views her job. I don't expect to get more than her standard offering because we don't know each other. Only as she becomes more familiar with me will she reveal her true limits.
If you must to have long-term, active-help multiple pops right off the bat, then go to the girls who do that as their core business. The escorts. If you're limited to English, you'll find ads on the Internet. Otherwise there are classified ads in El Mexicano, most of the [i]hoteles de paso[/i] keep a few on tap (try La Mansión to start with), and taxi drivers always know a few semi-pros (so explain your requirements to the taxi driver).
PG[/QUOTE]
Sage advice.
Street girls are not groomed to deliver GFE service, most if not all don't even know what that means. If you get anything close to a GFE you were either A) very lucky, B) paid a small fortune or C) are repeating with a girl you treat well and are nice to. GFE's are out there, you have to cultivate the girl however and the result should always come back better than any gringa could come up with.
But PG is right. Escort girls are pro's all the way. (Mind you there are bad apples out there too.) My contacts have been putting the girls out for over an hour on average and the girls know that multipops are a service standard, and GFE is a benchmark of quality service. There is nothing like a Latina GFE.
Being a long pop, I wasted a lot of money on short sessions. I developed a bench of regulars who got a few bucks more for more time, but always delivered and got me off after a good session. Mind you I treated the girls well during the sessions and made a note of what they liked and didn;t like. They all knew that when they went arriba with me they'd have a comfortable session. This is probably the single most helpful strategy during the AlleyKat missions.
I said long ago that I would do a "squeeze test" on the street and if they were warm outside then chances are they'd be warm inside. Most times I was right, but not always.
I knew I'd be paying more than the average monger so I would us that to my advantage. The girl wanted $30.00 for ME to fuck HER, but how much for HER to fuck ME? That was always an interesting question for them, got them thinking about a better payday and encouraged them to session out well. There is NOTHING like a great session with a Latina.
So enjoy the sessions, don't just glam slam for a happy ending. If you repeat you'll creep closer to that GFE. You CAN develop a girl if you're cool and session her well, then square up with her.
If you're a monger with a "scorched Zona" policy then the last thing on your mind is a GFE, right?
Be safe and be nice
Country John
Just currious if BBFS is available for a certain price with a SW in TJ? Spare me the lectures guys. I just like the experience better BBFS.
[QUOTE=DFWdude]Just currious if BBFS is available for a certain price with a SW in TJ? Spare me the lectures guys. I just like the experience better BBFS.[/QUOTE]I suppose that there might be some SGs who would go BBFS for a "certain price": that price will be substantially higher than the nominal rate of $20 to $30 of course. I have never contemplated BBFS but it would probably be easier with a SG that knows you. But man, that's risky; I hope that you have some sort of portable "STD field-test kit" with you. The closest thing to BBFS is using natural membrane condom and I have had some experience with using those in TJ about 7 months ago. I posted a report about it in the Chicago Club section back in January. Anyways, a short time after using those natural membrane condoms; I found out that some of the AB and CC girls carry STDs. Now some guys don't mind needles and shots, especially those who have military experience. But me, I can't stand it. Not to mention that AIDS/HIV is on the rise in TJ, check out this link:
[url]http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/02/060228085108.htm[/url]
I sure there are some clean SGs and some that are not so clean. It'll be a numbers game/asking enough of them until one agrees with those terms. Take it easy.
Jay
[QUOTE=DFWdude]Just currious if BBFS is available for a certain price with a SW in TJ? Spare me the lectures guys. I just like the experience better BBFS.[/QUOTE]
Yes. No lectures. Anything is available in TJ as long as you bring your wallet. Happy hunting.
Sermons are for people who can only see the world in black and white. Risk-control is for people who see the tonalities in between. One recommendation for this particular gray area of yours is to ask the girl to show you her health card ([i]tarjeta de salubridad[/i]) and look to see how current it is.
The health card is how the city of Tijuana controls its local sex industry. In order for someone to sell their sexual services, they must present a valid health card on request. The city enforces this by making frequent checks and by fining or removing those workers who are "driving without a license", so to speak.
According to one recent newspaper article, there are slightly more than five thousand girls and upwards of two hundred boys who currently hold health cards here in Tijuana. They pay for this themselves, something like thirty bucks for the card and about twenty-five bucks each month for a full panel of blood tests. Anyone who gets a positive result on an STD test has their card impounded by the health department until the person tests negative again; anyone testing positive for HIV gets their card pulled permanently.
The referenced article (which was trying to make a case for how risky the business is) claimed that, although these tests are supposed to be performed monthly, statistical compliance is closer to every two months. (They failed to identify their reference as mean, median, or mode.) In real life, whenever I have broached the subject with a girl, she has always been proud about the regularity of her monthly tests; when a girl shows me her card, she usually puts her thumb over her name (because I'm not supposed to know that "Gabi" is really Margarita Zavala) but there's a color photo to the left of her thumb.
PG
[QUOTE=Pinche Gabacho]Horses for courses, HT. You sound like those guys who complain they can't get Cadillac margaritas in Zona bars.
The paraditas' core business is anything but multiple-pop GFEs. The first time I go with a particular paradita, it's to see what she's like and how she views her job. I don't expect to get more than her standard offering because we don't know each other. Only as she becomes more familiar with me will she reveal her true limits.
If you must to have long-term, active-help multiple pops right off the bat, then go to the girls who do that as their core business. The escorts. If you're limited to English, you'll find ads on the Internet. Otherwise there are classified ads in El Mexicano, most of the [i]hoteles de paso[/i] keep a few on tap (try La Mansión to start with), and taxi drivers always know a few semi-pros (so explain your requirements to the taxi driver).
PG[/QUOTE]
Final word!
So what's the point of paying for an hour or two if you only getting one pop?
That doesn't make sense to me, only if you drunk enough to throw money away, I expect to get multiples if I pay for it, otherwise no deal that simple!
BTW, I know ol those areas you mentioned, including the Mansion, I'm not a newbie, been there done that, I was just curious why some guys are paying for extra time if there's no game, I'm not paying to have a conversation in the room, this is a simple math, if you pay $30 for twenty minutes equal 1 pop,
why pay for an hour if equals 1 pop, I rather go out have a beer and comeback for another 20min 1 pop deal.
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]Final word!
So what's the point
That doesn't make sense.
If you drunk enough to throw money away.
Otherwise no deal that simple!
I'm not paying to have a conversation in the room.
This is a simple math[/QUOTE]If you can't have a good time in Tijuana, you're better off staying home. I'm sure CraigsList can supply you with people close to where you live and who share your cultural values. We have as much trouble as we can handle already, no need to import any more from the other side of the border.
PG
DFW,
I found a girl or two that would provide BBBJ. The last one would have done FS BB too. She was not a regular working girl. She was in TJ because she tried to cross our border illegally and got busted. She was hanging out just a cross the street from the zone between the CC and the arch. Her plan was to put some money together and try to cross again. (and again)
Good luck and please post if you bag a BBFS.
TTYL,
MHF
[QUOTE=Jay Love] I hope that you have some sort of portable "STD field-test kit" with you.
AIDS/HIV is on the rise in TJ, check out this link:
[url]http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/02/060228085108.htm[/url][/QUOTE]DFW did ask to be spared the lectures. And I would have preferred to have been spared this "news" article.
First of all, I take a louche view of any news from the UCSD School of Medicine. I spent some time working for them (Alzheimer's disease, though, not AIDS) and learned just how sloppy and alarmist they can be. It's all about getting grants over there, nothing to do with getting to scientific truth. My officemate, who lives in Colonia Cacho, spent most of every business day on the phone breaking up with his boyfriend. Bizarre place. An astonishing waste of public and private funds.
Now let's look at the hodgepodge of facts and try to come up with something intelligible. Most cases come from homosexual and ambisexual men but "Other studies by this team reveal that only half of female sex workers and one third of injection drug users in Tijuana have ever had an HIV test," said Carlos Magis-Rodriguez. So that means there are more than ten thousand female sex workers in Tijuana? And how many are supposed to be HIV positive? And what is the likelihood of a male (say, DFW) receiving HIV from ordinary vaginal intercourse? For that matter, just what are the female-to-male HIV transmission vectors internationally?
The Tijuana HIV scare started a few months back when the Hospital General reported finding seven female patients who tested positive for HIV. No explanation as to provenance or vector, just "ooh, look, we got seven positives!" And that in a city of some three millions (not 1.2 million as the UCSD article would have you believe). This is an incredibly mobile city (I used to joke that no one is born here but that became insupportable ten years ago): we still are, as we always have been, a population funnel. AIDS should be very common here, just as it is in San Francisco or New York City, because we are receiving a concentration of displaced at-risk populations. But does that mean DFW will wind up on a IV drip because he wants to wave his unprotected willy around?
Holy fucking Jesus will get AIDS from Mary Magdalene before DFW gets it from some poor girl in the Zona. Lord have mercy!
PG
The UCSD School of Medicine conducted this research study using empirical data/statistics and models. I don't think there's a problem with the study's legitimacy or credibility. And moreover, they are qualified researchers. Anyways, I've posted another link below which renders an article that appeared in a bulletin from the New York Academy of Medicine. This communication gives actual numbers/percentiles (namely, Tables 2 & 3) for the at-risk groups:
[url]http://www.dhs.ca.gov/ps/dcdc/COBBH/docs/Brouwer%20et%20al-2006%20JUH.PDF[/url]
My intentions were not to lecture or deliver a sermon. As a member of a open forum, our job is to keep each other informed. Maybe DFW is already cognizant of the risks of BBFS with a TJ hooker. Maybe not. All I'm saying is make an informed decision.
I also prefer condomless sex, but I know that theres a time and place for everything. And TJ damn sure isn't the place at any time. The sex tourism game is spontaneous and flourishes based on economic disparities between nations and protected sex. All games have rules and those come about to protect everyone involved. But if BBFS is what you want, it's BBFS you get.
Cordially,
Jay
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[QUOTE=Pinche Gabacho]DFW did ask to be spared the lectures. And I would have preferred to have been spared this "news" article.
First of all, I take a louche view of any news from the UCSD School of Medicine. I spent some time working for them (Alzheimer's disease, though, not AIDS) and learned just how sloppy and alarmist they can be. It's all about getting grants over there, nothing to do with getting to scientific truth. My officemate, who lives in Colonia Cacho, spent most of every business day on the phone breaking up with his boyfriend. Bizarre place. An astonishing waste of public and private funds.
Now let's look at the hodgepodge of facts and try to come up with something intelligible. Most cases come from homosexual and ambisexual men but "Other studies by this team reveal that only half of female sex workers and one third of injection drug users in Tijuana have ever had an HIV test," said Carlos Magis-Rodriguez. So that means there are more than ten thousand female sex workers in Tijuana? And how many are supposed to be HIV positive? And what is the likelihood of a male (say, DFW) receiving HIV from ordinary vaginal intercourse? For that matter, just what are the female-to-male HIV transmission vectors internationally?
The Tijuana HIV scare started a few months back when the Hospital General reported finding seven female patients who tested positive for HIV. No explanation as to provenance or vector, just "ooh, look, we got seven positives!" And that in a city of some three millions (not 1.2 million as the UCSD article would have you believe). This is an incredibly mobile city (I used to joke that no one is born here but that became insupportable ten years ago): we still are, as we always have been, a population funnel. AIDS should be very common here, just as it is in San Francisco or New York City, because we are receiving a concentration of displaced at-risk populations. But does that mean DFW will wind up on a IV drip because he wants to wave his unprotected willy around?
Holy fucking Jesus will get AIDS from Mary Magdalene before DFW gets it from some poor girl in the Zona. Lord have mercy!
PG[/QUOTE]
Excellent post.
Very often we see in the news after a tragic event like a murder in a quiet neighborhood when people interviewed say: "I just can't believe it happened HERE."
That's what guys who contract AIDS must think when the realization settles in that it DID in fact happen to THEM.
Being reckless will carry a heavy price. You have to be willing to deal with it when you take the chance. Only the monger can make that life decision at the time of insertion. Ignorance is certainly no excuse and will not get you off the hook. AIDS and HIV is a bell that you can't "un-ring."
This hobby becomes a mattter of life and death when you blow off the certain dangers of sexually transmitted illnesses and disease. You have to take your life a bit more seriously. We have the data, we have the statistics and we understand human nature a lot better now than we did 50 years ago.
So take responsibility for what you know and govern yourself accordingly.
Be safe and be nice.
Country John
[QUOTE=Pinche Gabacho]If you can't have a good time in Tijuana, you're better off staying home. I'm sure CraigsList can supply you with people close to where you live and who share your cultural values. We have as much trouble as we can handle already, no need to import any more from the other side of the border.
PG[/QUOTE]
Look at this guy LOL!
He founds this site, and starts showing off like some hot shot!
than he writes stupidity and tells members to stay home like if he owns TJ?
Let me tell you something smarty, don't go around this site telling people what to do, and making yourself the king of the Mongers, and try teaching members
how to be a super monger like yourself, I'm not retarded, I have plenty of education, been in TJ 1 million times and counting, I know different cultures too, and I'm bilingual!
So if you found this site and want to be welcome don't act like an "ASS".
I don't like newbies with the attitude of "I know everything and you don't".
Yes! I'm upset because most of your posts or replies have an aggressive behavior, if you disagree with my comments it's not a problem but stop flaming other members like a drunk walking into uninvited party, and follow ISG rules!
Had just finished up at CC and hoping to try something new. Met Alejandra (20y, Veracruz) standing near Hotel La Valentina. A nice little spinner: very pretty and sweet. Sex was real hot: 3 positions over 20 minutes. Mish to doggy to CG. She has a lot of energy, the finish was "fast and furious". It's usually the slim ones who have the deepest pussy you've ever seen. Will definitely pick this one again. Had been knuckled down at work through Saturday; I needed a fuck like this to cap my weekend off.
Got a buddy cruising down from L. A. The July 4th weekend: will return then.
Jay
Flaca morena very cute with large eyes, sort of Filipina look, tiny titties, stands in front of the cafe just East of Cascadas in the alley. $20 nude didn't seem to mind multi-positions without upsell. Very sweet in the room no rush. In mish it was mucho 'Oh Papi, ASI, ASI, PAPI, Oh Papi, asi!!'
No baby's, very snug, in CG she went wild and rode me like a mare on a stallion for 5 or 6 minutes. I was tired 'for her'. LOL
She is new, maybe a month at most. Will repeat. If you are tired of the DFE (dead fish) which is the usual service from street girls, check her out (and in).
[size=-1]This is a trip report in two parts as follows:
Part One – Arrival, Adelita Bar & Tropical Bar (posted in Tijuana Reports)
Part Two – Street Girls Rule! (posted in Streetwalker Reports)[/size]
[b]Part Two – Street Girls Rule![/b]
I head back to my room and shower and walk out to the alley. A girl walks out from her hotel and stands in front of Bar El Corral. She's nice looking, short with medium brown hair, wide eyes and mouth. Her micro skirt keeps blowing upward in the breeze despite her best efforts to hold it down. Our eyes catch and we laugh. She moves over toward me and asks if I would like to go to the hotel with her. I want to get a sense of her as a person before making a deal. I ask her name, she says it is Carin and I tell her mine and ask how she is today. I move right up next to her and touch her arm softly and tell her she is very pretty. She offers 20 for her and 6 for the room. I tell I already have a room and ask for sin ropa. She wants 5 more for sin ropa and off we go to my room. I help her undress. She's affectionate and asks if I want sucky for 5 more. I agree. I'm sitting on the bed and she actually gets down on her knees in front of me and looks me in the eyes during a great CBJ. She's a hottie. Then she gets on the bed with me on top. She puts a serious grip on me wrapping her legs around. She stares me in the eyes and leans her head up. She wants to kiss while lovemaking. Yow! What a hottie. I'm very satisfied. Afterwards I include a nice tip and she is surprised and asks if I want cambio. No, its your propina. She's very grateful and I'm already looking forward to my next time with her.
I shower again and head out, disappointed to still not see my favorite, Miss Perfect, at her post. She must have taken today off. Up the hill, my most regular girl, Miss NoKisses, also must be gone today. At the corner of Constitución and Primera there are two white-shirt policia questioning three locals. I walk up to Bar El Fracaso and have a look around. I see two street girls who normally work Constitución sitting on the benches around the dance floor. I've never seen them in here before. They get up and leave. After a few minutes, I'm kicking myself for not scooping up one of those girls. Damn. I decide to go get one them, and walk out. Back at the corner there are now five policia questioning another guy. I walk right through them and turn the corner. Great! There she is, Miss ClassicLatina standing in her usual place near the top of the hill leaning against the building. Now I've walked by her a hundred times and always smiled but never stopped to talk with her. She works near where my regular girl does, so I've never had the opportunity to connect with her, but today with my regular gone, it's the perfect chance to get to know her.
I ask her why she left and she says there were no hombres to dance with her. She asks if I would like to dance with her. Yes, very much. I lightly take her hand because I'm going to walk by the policemen for the third time in twenty minutes. Having a chica in tow is pretty much a "do not disturb" pass for walking around the Zona in my experience. Miss ClassicLatina is about 5'-4" in her shoes. She has long, full dark brown/black hair with a long helical curl of hair falling down from her forehead. She has a pretty face with fine facial features and wonderful, dark brown skin. Wide hips, round booty, narrow waist, and nice breasts.
We walk into El Fracaso and onto the dance floor. I hold her loosely and we dance to Mexican music. Her actions and reactions are classic, conservative, Catholic street girl. She is smiling but reserved. The jukebox runs out and we walk over to start it up again. Then back to the dance floor. After a few songs, I ask if she would like a drink. Sure, of course. We grab a table and the mesero takes her order. I'm going to follow her lead here and since she ordered a 7-Up, I order only an agua mineral. Since she is a conservative street girl that I'm just getting to know, I don't want to order a beer if she is not drinking. She is a bit surprised and asks me if I drink. I tell her yes but I already had a beer earlier and don't need one now. Truth is, I'm treating this situation carefully, like a first date, and I want to build trust with her. If she's not ready to drink a beer with me, then neither am I. Of course, I don't do any of the things I would do with a Bar Girl. This is a totally different type of woman.
Again the music stops and I ask her to pick some more music. She picks three very slow, romantic ballads and now leans into to me while dancing. I give her a peck on the forehead and we sit down for another drink. A clamato for her and another agua mineral for me. I ask her if she would like to get some comida and she declines. I ask if she would like to go to my hotel. Yes. So off we go.
In the room, Miss ClassicLatina removes all her clothes without asking. We don't discuss money. We have a nice session, not passionate by any means, but better than your average, random Street Girl. Afterwards, I ask if she would like to shower and hand her a shower cap for her hair and a small bottle of body wash. She's all over this idea, loving the idea of getting a nice shower. Although we were just sexually intimate, we are not personally intimate, so I wait until she is done to take my shower rather than hopping in with her. Now I would never recommend that any of you leave a girl alone in your room while you shower. Never do this. Never. But in this case, where I know she is a long time Street Girl, works year-round, and she has seen me many times, and I know many girls who know her, and her character is conservative Catholic, there simply is no measurable risk for me to shower for a few minutes. I give her 300 pesos and walk her back to her spot. I'll look forward to spending more time with her in the future. I'm glad to have another pretty Street Girl willing to bailar with me.
Later that evening, I stop to chat with a couple of girls at the far end of the alley. They are close friends with one of my regular, Miss Gordita. But Miss Gordita returned home for an extended vacation. I've not had sex with either of these ladies, but I've chatted many times and bought them coffee a couple of times on cold days. The younger one with big fake tits came along for dinner one night. Just at the Chinese restaurant on Niños Heroes at the end of the alley. The older of the two sometimes works in El Fracso at night and I've had dollar dances with her. She asks if I would like to go dancing over at Bar La Gloria with her. Sure. Let's go. We walk around the block to the other end and grab a table inside La Gloria. I order a Bohemia. She orders Dos Equis. It's two for one on Dos Equis tonight. I sip on my Bohemia. She throws her first beer down pretty quick. These aren't fiches, these are full size bottles. Unfortunately it's musica fea tonight. (While we're waiting for a good song, I see my PlanB girl walk through the bar. Good to know my sure thing backup girl is around, just in case. Miss PlanB works out of the small hotel on Constitución near the intersection of Calle Coahuila, basically across from Bar La Gloria. She cruises through here regularly and I've taken her down for TLN a couple of times. Not high marks for looks but a real solid performer.) Finally I dance a few with my friend and then we finish up our beers. I invite her over to my hotel for the first time. Now she is a bit older and knows she has to earn her keep with no bullshit. She doesn't disappoint. She cuts loose pretty good with two beers in her and turns into a Latina on fire. I actually start by fingering her to a loud, wet orgasm for which she thanks me profusely. We do the sucky fucky and then lay down together for a while. We shower together.
As I am walking her back to the far end of the alley, I see Miss MarryMe working in front of Hotel Cascadas. I tell her I'll return in a moment after I finish walking this girl back. And so I do. Miss MarryMe complains about me being with another woman and asks me to take her arriba. At the Cascadas reception desk she asks me to buy her a can of beer for $4. Sure, I get myself a water. In the room Miss MarryMe feels my damp hair and asks if I fucked that girl I was walking with. Of course, I fucked her. I say to her "Celosa, Celosa!" She pouts and says, "Fuck me!" I tell her I'm too tired to fuck again. Between her complaining, we kiss. She keeps saying, "Fuck me," and I keep saying "Celosa, Celosa!" The knock comes. We part. I'm tired and even though it's not yet midnight, I decide to go to sleep.
I slept like a rock the whole night and wake at about 6:00 a.m., shower and shave. I walk down the alley watching everyone either going to work or finishing up work or returning from partying in the bars. I get a cold water at Mercado Cuautla (the market next to Hotel Eduardo across from Cascadas). I see Miss Cariñoso standing in front of Bar La Capirucha and a smile comes to our faces as we see each other. She is perfectly beautiful. I love everything about her. She works days out of Hotel Mini.
It's 6:40 a.m. and we head to my hotel room. She has very soft skin, flawless and rather pale for a Mexicana. Short, thick dark brown hair. Big wide eyes and mouth. Soft, curvy body with nice b-cup breasts. She is so loving and gentle and compliant. I always tell her she is a sweetheart and she always replies, Siii! You can have all your bar girls, all the fakes, and phoneys, and cheaters, clockwatchers, and malas. This little sweetheart puts them all to shame. I pay her like I would pay a bar girl based roughly on time. We don't even discuss money any more. Except, last trip, running short on money, I told her upfront I only had $20 dollars and the time was up to her. Time before that was more typical, a session for over an hour. She never counts the money I give her in front of me. She just thanks me and puts it in her purse. But like I said, I pay her and treat her very well. Guys, there are gems out there. Seek them out and take care of them and they'll take care of you. So, I'm the fool in the alley shagging bottled water for a favorite chica or bringing back a treat from Gigante, or taking three girls around the corner for a hot coffee on a cold night. Some of these girls are good people.
Well, I did one more girl later that morning but this report is long enough already. So, in closing, I was happy to meet a couple of new Street Girls and throughly enjoyed this trip. I landed at the border at 10:30 a.m. and got in the longest line I ever saw. It took two full hours to get back into the USA!
The End.
Carin is the only reason I go to TJ. She never dissapoints and has no problem pleasing her customer. Great report!
[QUOTE=SilverNitrate]Carin is the only reason I go to TJ. She never dissapoints and has no problem pleasing her customer. Great report![/QUOTE]
Is that Tall Carin along the Odessa wall using Hacienda hotel? The Karen I mention is the mentor and perhaps lover to flaca Alondra standing next to her. They walk arm in arm to & from lunch daily.
Got off to late start Sunday night/arriving at AB around 10p. Decided to start off with an alley girl, just to get my rocks off. So I took Jasmine (20y, Guadalajara) up to hotel Najarra. She's fairly "tall"(5'6'') and slim; with fair-skin and intriguing light eyes. She offered sex sin ropa for $20. We started off with some petting and went into CG and finished in mish. Her kitty cat is oh so small and tight; which prevented me from making it to doggy. She was very sweet and personable after sex.
Will probably repeat with her at some point. The few SGs that I've been with have been real young (19-20y) and slim; but I plan to try some more shapely SGs in the immediate future. Jay
[QUOTE=Jay Love]Got off to late start Sunday night/arriving at AB around 10p. Decided to start off with an alley girl, just to get my rocks off. So I took Jasmine (20y, Guadalajara) up to hotel Najarra. She's fairly "tall"(5'6'') and slim; with fair-skin and intriguing light eyes. ... She was very sweet and personable after sex.[/QUOTE]
Jasmine. Yes, I thought she had an especially pretty face. Didn't see her on my last trip. Still unspoiled, hope she can stay that way. But it's a tough life and she's already been through a lot.
Which hotels in the alley can offer a decent clean size room, with some quiet and safety to stay there all night and close to the action? "If there's such a place in the alley"
Must be clean with air and would be nice a tv, I want to be close to the action, most alley girls if not all don't go far to other hotels outside the alley, I am aware of Hotel Hacienda de Santiago , nice rooms to stay ol night but girls don't want to travel that far if you know what I mean.
I was also thinking to stay at the hotel next to AB, but I'm not sure if they let you bring girls from the alley? Is this hotel for AB girls only?
Excuse for all the duhh questions, I'm not a newbie but I never pay attention to what is what in the zona, and I only stay all night outside the zona after playing till late, but for resting only.
Sometimes I want to get a late night snack if you know what I mean and that's why I want to try the hotels where all the action is.
I want a hotel right on the action, to go out and grab from the door, I just don't want to pay for rooms in different areas just use the same one.
If anyone stood all night in a alley hotel room please share some info.
Went to the alley earlier today and walked around for quite a while. I was having problems finding a SG that I wanted to spend 200 pesos on. I probably wandered around the Zona 6 or 7 times before I saw Nancy in front of the Hotel Eduardo. She's a hot looking 20 year old from Veracruz. Quite tall, but she was wearing pretty large heels, so that added to her height. She quoted me 200 mxp, I offered 150, hoping for a miracle. She just shook her head. Then I asked her what I get for my 200, she said top stays on and one position, but I could pick the position. Geez, thanks. I was having second thoughts, but she looked so good I decided to go for it anyway.
Went to the room, which cost 30 pesos. I started to feel better about her when I gave her a 50 to pay for the room, and she actually gave me my change back. In the room, she took off her bottoms and pulled up her dress, revealing a sweet body, with a belly-button ring. She also has a nose ring I think, just FYI. Went over to the bed and she got me hard with a HJ, while I was touching her all over. I decided my one allowed position would be doggy, and she complied. Overall a pretty good experience, she's not much of a talker, but then again that's not what I'm paying her for. She didn't seem to mind that I would get myself close to finishing, and then just stay inside her while I rubbed her stomach, ass and legs. Finished up by using her heels as handles while I pounded her.
Face: 8.5
Body: 9.0 (from what parts of her body I could see!)
BJ/HJ: Didn't pay the extra pesitos for a BJ, the HJ was ok I guess, as good as a HJ can be...6.0?
Tightness of soft-taco: 8.5 (a spicy soft taco!)
Attitude: 8.0 (quiet, but I kind of like that actually)
Price: 200mxp
Ezinho recommends? Yeah, I do. I might even repeat with her, since doing SG's seems to be such a crapshoot.
[QUOTE=Ezinho]I saw Nancy in front of the Hotel Eduardo. She's a hot looking 20 year old from Veracruz.
Face: 8.5
Body: 9.0 (from what parts of her body I could see!)
BJ/HJ: Didn't pay the extra pesitos for a BJ, the HJ was ok I guess, as good as a HJ can be...6.0?
Tightness of soft-taco: 8.5 (a spicy soft taco!)
Attitude: 8.0 (quiet, but I kind of like that actually)
Price: 200mxp
Ezinho recommends? Yeah, I do. [b]I might even repeat with her[/b], since doing SG's seems to be such a crapshoot.[/QUOTE]
Nice report, I like the rating system!
Definitely sounds like she's a good prospect to try again. After a repeat or two, she'll loosen up the rules. That's the way to build up a posse of reliable Alley Girls.
Mike
[QUOTE=Ezinho] I probably wandered around the Zona 6 or 7 times before I saw Nancy in front of the Hotel Eduardo. [/QUOTE]
"Tall Nancy" is one of the sweetest street girls you will find as well as one of the most stunning on the street if you like tall and thin. She has worked that spot for about 3 years except for vacations and a stint in Orange County USA. She actually has been to Disneyland so she is more worldly than most street girls in TJ. LOL
Yes, she may loosen up on the rules and go full nude for the same fee once she remembers your face from a couple of repeats.
[QUOTE=Ninguno Especial]"Tall Nancy" is one of the sweetest street girls you will find as well as one of the most stunning on the street if you like tall and thin. She has worked that spot for about 3 years except for vacations and a stint in Orange County USA. She actually has been to Disneyland so she is more worldly than most street girls in TJ. LOL
Yes, she may loosen up on the rules and go full nude for the same fee once she remembers your face from a couple of repeats.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that sounds just like her. Anyways, I went back to the alley today, a monger on a mission. I wanted to get her early, as she mentioned she usually starts working at 10 am. Got to the Hotel Eduardo and she was there in her same spot, closest to the door. To cut to the chase, she wanted 100 pesos more to remove her top, so I said I would give her 50 more for that and multiple positions, and she agreed. So 250 pesos plus 30 for the room, what can I say, I felt like splurging today! Her tits are beautiful, small but firm with erasure-sized nipples, much better than the silicone you see in AB. IMHO, of course.
I also asked about taking photos and she flat-out denied me. Didn't even mention an inflated price. Too bad, she would have been a nice addition to my photo album!
Afterwards, I walked around the alley for a little bit, but I didn't see anything better-looking than Nancy. Are there any SG's during the afternoon hours that are hotter than her?
[QUOTE=Ezinho] Are there any SG's during the afternoon hours that are hotter than her?[/QUOTE]
If you find one she will charge you 400 pesos or more for what Tall Nancy gave you. Karla Hill stands up the hill on Constitution East side near the Kentucky Fried Buches (fried chicken neck cafe).
She is very pretty but wants top dollar.
Near Tall Nancy is blond Carolina who I think is somewhat stunning too. Gives a good Deep Throat (covered) so I've been told.
Stone Cold Karla stands just to the right of the entrance to the 5 star Eduardo Hotel will go as low as 150 pesos bottom nude only if she likes you or recognizes your face. May be double that full nude. No smiles on the street but inside she is a sweet heart.
OK, any more info will cost you a dollar... LOL
Does Nancy have white skin...?? One reason I avoid TJ is because most of the SG's are the darker complexion which turns me off. How willing to please is Nancy..?? Another big complaint is that most SG's in TJ are not very willing to please.
[QUOTE=Hizark21]Does Nancy have white skin...?? One reason I avoid TJ is because most of the SG's are the darker complexion which turns me off. How willing to please is Nancy..?? Another big complaint is that most SG's in TJ are not very willing to please.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I would say that she is white, although I am somewhat dark-skinned myself, so maybe we have differing opinions on this. But I would definitely call her a "white girl". I haven't been to a strip club in the States in years, but I would say she has the typical white, American stripper look; tall, thin, with piercings. She even has the stripper shoes! As far as willing to please, I'm not exactly sure what you mean by that, but as long as you're willing to pay extra, you should be able to get what you want. The thing is, if you're going to pay more than 400 pesos, you might just be better off getting a bar girl instead. Paying that much for a girl that works the streets kind of defeats the purpose of doing a street girl, IMHO.
For me, it wasn't so much that the street girls have dark skin, because I actually could find very few that had the complexion I prefer. My complaint is that many of them have that indigenous look, shorter and plumper, with harsh facial features, and that's what I don't really find attractive. Also, the girls that wear pantyhose really turn me off!
If you like white girls, in addition to Nancy there were at least a couple more in the alley where Hong Kong Bar is that are worth checking out, especially around the Hotel Eduardo.
[QUOTE=Ninguno Especial]
OK, any more info will cost you a dollar... LOL[/QUOTE]
Geez, you're worse than the street girls, lol!
Seriously though, thanks for your info on the street scene. I'm no longer in TJ, but your info was very helpful, this thread needs more guys like you.
Thanks again.
My one big objection with the SG's in tj is that most of girls are not willing to please. I have not gotten a really great bj from the SG's in TJ. Most of the girls are unwilling or won't take directions. Most of the SW's in San Diego are willing to take directions. I used to see this one girl named Wendy that worked in the alley about 4 years ago. Wendy had a great personality and tried hard to please.
I may go down tomorrow, but the heat really bothers me.
[QUOTE=Hizark21]Does Nancy have white skin...?? One reason I avoid TJ is because most of the SG's are the darker complexion which turns me off. How willing to please is Nancy..?? Another big complaint is that most SG's in TJ are not very willing to please.[/QUOTE]
OK enough is enough ... We've put up with the one line trip reports ["Has anyone been crusing lately?] and his search for his own form of perversion ...oops service ["Really didn't like her because she wouldn't subject herself to letting me shoot my load over her face."], but now that he's willingly said he only likes "white skin", isn't this too much.
Help us out Jackson ... is there a ban somewhere in his future?
[QUOTE=OCTraveler]OK enough is enough ... We've put up with the one line trip reports ["Has anyone been crusing lately?] and his search for his own form of perversion ...oops service ["Really didn't like her because she wouldn't subject herself to letting me shoot my load over her face."], but now that he's willingly said he only likes "white skin", isn't this too much.
future?[/QUOTE]
Well I agree with your perception and comments about the 'one line trip reports' though I don't recall them but as far as preferences and services...
I may be classed as white but I prefer tan to dark skin on my chicas. There are too many white skinned Latinas in ZN for my tastes but that's OK. I like some of them and take them in from time to time (including Tall Nance at Eduardo).
I wouldn't say the poster should be banned yet but obviously he has pushed your buttons.
[QUOTE=Hizark21]My one big objection with the SG's in tj is that most of girls are not willing to please. I have not gotten a really great bj from the SG's in TJ. Most of the girls are unwilling or won't take directions. Most of the SW's in San Diego are willing to take directions. I used to see this one girl named Wendy that worked in the alley about 4 years ago. Wendy had a great personality and tried hard to please.
I may go down tomorrow, but the heat really bothers me.[/QUOTE]
Hizark, in San Diego, you ain't got them lined up in the street. It's a different breed of chica. While there are many vet's in the Alley, there are a lot of noobies too and they know WHY they are there, some lack expereince however and then again some just plain don't care.
The secret with SG's are REPEATS. When you find Miss Mexico, don;t look for anything close to GFE until you've repeated several times. I know it sucks, but that's the point right?
The girls also watch the guys. When they see a guy go with everyone on the street, then they know he's just a banger (sounds silly).
Here's what I did: I would work opposite ends of the alley and around the corner. If I found a fav IN the alley, I'd make sure I took other girls up that were out of eye shot or even after her shift. As soon as she saw me go arrible with another girl, her service changed for the worse and she became mechanical.
All of the above is offered up only if you care about such things, but repeats and giving the girl the impression that youare there to see HER goes a long way towards excellent service, overtime, etc.
I had three favs in the alley. None of whom could see each other and I got outstanding service after several repeats.
Just because they are pros, that don't make 'em "experts." Remember that. Repeats make the difference.
Country John
I just get irritated how inconsistent the service is in TJ. Having to pay extra for a girl to take off her top is a bunch of nonsense. In the US is part of the deal unless the SW is ***** or scammer.
I don't care too much if the experience is GFE. All I ask is that a girl gives good service and lives up to the bargain. In TJ the SG's are always trying to scam you.
[QUOTE=Country John]The secret with SG's are REPEATS. When you find Miss Mexico, don;t look for anything close to GFE until you've repeated several times. I know it sucks, but that's the point right?[/QUOTE]This is true regardless of the venue, SG, AB, CC, or anywhere else.
Thanks, CJ
PP
Well I have yet to experience a SG, but from what I hear, their pricing is very different since they charge extra for every little thing like taking clothes off and more positions. So I suppose if you become pretty friendly with repeats they'll start losening up and not be so uptight about charging for everything.
CJ; don't waste your time with Hizark21. Look at the SoCal section and you will see what I mean. TJ is not his style. He thinks blowing his load over the face of a pretty young white girl via BBBJ should only cost him $20.
If I can find hot wsw for $20 for a bj and facial I will see her all the time. These days it's pretty your chances of finding a SW like that are almost zero-5%. But let's remember that I was seeing Junie & Lisa a few years back and getting a bj and facial for less than $30.
About 5 years ago I found this one SG in TJ who gave me a facial for $15. She was trying to get some cash to cross the border. I
[QUOTE=Hizark21]If I can find hot wsw for $20 for a bj and facial I will see her all the time. These days it's pretty your chances of finding a SW like that are almost zero-5%. But let's remember that I was seeing Junie & Lisa a few years back and getting a bj and facial for less than $30.
About 5 years ago I found this one SG in TJ who gave me a facial for $15. She was trying to get some cash to cross the border. I[/QUOTE]
Hizark; when the median cost of a home in San Diego drops to $300k and gas is $190 per gallon - you will be able to get your $20 facials. I remember mongering 5, 10 and 15 years ago. The average price has increased about $20 per five years for average street service. The internet has enabled pretty young white girls to go online and charge $200, $250 for what they charged $40 for on the street.
I'm not downing you and your tireless pursuit of the perfect $20 facial, but most mongers, married, busy and horny don't want to spend 4 hours a day driving around for it. If you don't like brown girls, stay out of TJ. If you want cheap white pussy, monger in Seattle, Michigan or Jersey.
Plus let's remember the difference in venues. Cheap SW's in the USA are mostly about quickie blow jobs in your car. Street girls in TJ are pretty much about straight fucks with pants off, but nothing else. No sense fighting the facts. TJ is not for everyone. TJ is not cheap. Go somewhere else if you don't like TJ. It's not the best deal in the world or even close to it. But it is what it is.
These forums are about TJ. Other forums are for other venues.
You can get whatever you want in TJ, but for SG's it's most often going to take a larger investment, in money or time or game, to get a better performance.
I get great BJ's and GFE regularly, but it takes more time to build a relationship and more money etc. For me, TJ street girls rule. But that's just me. Many guys are disappointed. No sense arguing the facts. Go somewhere else, save money, and have a better time. TJ is what it is: One mediocre choice in a world filled with possibilities. I choose to go to TJ. Other know better. That's fine with me.
These days the bj's go for $30-$40 for SW's in SD. For myself it's much better to have some ph #'s of some SW's that I know will give me a good bj. So I only go TJ when I can't find what I want. Most of my contacts have disappeared so it's harder to find good new WSW's.
Good points on the differences between TJ and SD guys. And you might want to add that anybody looking for SWs in SD faces the distinct possibility of getting busted. SD is a conservative town and these judges try to ruin your life.
TJ streetgirls come with no strings attached, a cheap price, and no jail time involved!
TJ
Just got back from a stroll in the Zona at about 2 pm. Very slow.
You really need to be careful of streetwalkers. They come from an entirely different set of circumstances than the SG's. They are most apt to be druggies. They are also most likely to rip you off.
They walk because they can't post. They can't post because they do not have health cards and probably couldn't get one.
Be safe and be nice.
Country John
The LE risk in SD and US is quite low so long as you follow some basic rules.
Country John,
Did you see a curly-headed morena standing on the corner where I have placed the X?
Her name is Beatrice and she has been out there for about 4 years now.
I have been looking for her for about two weeks now.
Others can chime in too, I asked him since he was down yesterday during the daytime when she normally works.
__________________________X
The Alley
__________________________Intersection
Cascades
TJ
I was there yesterday as well. I don't recall seeing ANY SG with curly hair. Perhaps some small curls on the sides like the way the rabbi's wear them. I think...
As for that corner, there was perhaps like 3 standing there. I mainly recall some ugly short older girl with glasses and a small pink dress. Ewww.
Which actually makes me wonder something. Why is there some really butt ugly and fat SG hanging around? Who, if anyone would actually want to sleep with them? And you would think they would be more aggresive to try and get customers but they don't even do that. So I wonder if they ever even get any customers. Which actually ends up making me feel bad for them. Oh well.
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]Country John,
Did you see a curly-headed morena standing on the corner where I have pleced the X?
Her name is Beatrice and she has been out there for a about 4 years now.
TJ[/QUOTE]
Haven't noticed her either for a couple of weeks. She has been there at least 5 or 6 years as I recall except for several vacations. Perhaps on another one now.
I contacted Tina this morning and she told me to call her when I got down to Imperial beach. I tried calling Tina in South bay, but she did not answer.
I then decided to head on down to TJ to check things out. I got a disappointing bj from SG named Natalie. The only good was that there was a breeze and so I was not sweltering.
[QUOTE=Ezinho]Went to the alley earlier today and walked around for quite a while. I was having problems finding a SG that I wanted to spend 200 pesos on. I probably wandered around the Zona 6 or 7 times before I saw Nancy in front of the Hotel Eduardo. She's a hot looking 20 year old from Veracruz. Quite tall, but she was wearing pretty large heels, so that added to her height. She quoted me 200 mxp, I offered 150, hoping for a miracle. She just shook her head. Then I asked her what I get for my 200, she said top stays on and one position, but I could pick the position. Geez, thanks. I was having second thoughts, but she looked so good I decided to go for it anyway.
Went to the room, which cost 30 pesos. I started to feel better about her when I gave her a 50 to pay for the room, and she actually gave me my change back. In the room, she took off her bottoms and pulled up her dress, revealing a sweet body, with a belly-button ring. She also has a nose ring I think, just FYI. Went over to the bed and she got me hard with a HJ, while I was touching her all over. I decided my one allowed position would be doggy, and she complied. Overall a pretty good experience, she's not much of a talker, but then again that's not what I'm paying her for. She didn't seem to mind that I would get myself close to finishing, and then just stay inside her while I rubbed her stomach, ass and legs. Finished up by using her heels as handles while I pounded her.
Face: 8.5
Body: 9.0 (from what parts of her body I could see!)
BJ/HJ: Didn't pay the extra pesitos for a BJ, the HJ was ok I guess, as good as a HJ can be...6.0?
Tightness of soft-taco: 8.5 (a spicy soft taco!)
Attitude: 8.0 (quiet, but I kind of like that actually)
Price: 200mxp
Ezinho recommends? Yeah, I do. I might even repeat with her, since doing SG's seems to be such a crapshoot.[/QUOTE]
I had written the hotel and tall Nancy down on a piece of paper to remind myself. I was so happy to have finally used the advice from this board in my selection. Today I found Nancy. I saw the hotel as I passed across the street. I went into AB as always, but it was about 10:30am and the few chicas that were there seemed to be sitting with the other mongers. I then decided to go back and see if I could find Nancy. She's an attractive young woman, who does look too tall in those heels. she said 3USD for the room and 20 for her. I asked how much for extras and she said 40 for fully nude, sucky, fucky and 3 positions. I said how about one position and she countered with 35. I asked what we could do for 30 and she said fully nude 1 position. So I paid her the 30 upfront and was not disappointed. She has a rockin body and was the best experience I've had with a SG. I would repeat for sure wondering how much more GFE it could be. I've been with 2 or 3 more attractive SG's but they we're less enjoyable upstairs. So thank you Ezinho for your report. :)
[QUOTE=Gilgamesh]I had written the hotel and tall Nancy down on a piece of paper to remind myself. I was so happy to have finally used the advice from this board in my selection. Today I found Nancy. I saw the hotel as I passed across the street. I went into AB as always, but it was about 10:30am and the few chicas that were there seemed to be sitting with the other mongers. I then decided to go back and see if I could find Nancy. She's an attractive young woman, who does look too tall in those heels. she said 3USD for the room and 20 for her. I asked how much for extras and she said 40 for fully nude, sucky, fucky and 3 positions. I said how about one position and she countered with 35. I asked what we could do for 30 and she said fully nude 1 position. So I paid her the 30 upfront and was not disappointed. She has a rockin body and was the best experience I've had with a SG. I would repeat for sure wondering how much more GFE it could be. I've been with 2 or 3 more attractive SG's but they we're less enjoyable upstairs. So thank you Ezinho for your report. :)[/QUOTE]
Well, what can I say, I haven't accumulated over 300 posts on this site by giving bad advice!
I'm glad you had a good time with Nancy. I have to say from my limited experiences with SGs in Tijuana that she is the exception, not the rule, although you may correct me if I am wrong. I think the best thing about her was her tight (and shaved) snatch. The other SGs I did seemed to have sloppy, loose pussies, as well as hairy bushes that were just out of control. Does anyone else have these complaints about the SGs?
Anyways, thanks again for sharing, and please keep the board updated on the SG scene, with specific information if possible. Let me know how the repeat with Nancy goes too; I'll definitely see her again when I am in the San Diego area.
Ezinho,
man you really get around. I know you from the Brazil board.
My main complaint is the robotic sex many SGs provide. It seems to me you have to know these girls before they will let their guards down.
I spend time in Brazil and the attitude about sex is different. Brazilians are more open, while in Mexico it seems the girls are taught not to enjoy sex. But of course, not enjoying is impossible, so they act like asses to the mongers.
The girls you come to know over the years change after a while. They really open up sexually.
I actually like hairy beavers, but it does get old. Some hair is nice but most have too much of it.
And I also enjoy banging loose pussies. It makes me think about how these girls are really just going through a long, drawn out gangbang!
TJ
The worst SG experience for me was one spinner that looked great in clothes, but once they came off...The 4 kids she had was all too noticable. Found her a few years ago out front of the police station.
One hottie called me cheap when I said no thanks to the upsell. I said yep and informed her that she was a warm-up nut before going to AB. (LOL) I'm not normally that pissy, but I was that time with her. It's the "tudes" and just laying there that turned me off from SG's. I've only had a couple of bad experiences in AB and after upselling they cost roughly the same. Nancy was warm, friendly, and touched me more than I expected.
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]Brazilians are more open, while in Mexico it seems the girls are taught not to enjoy sex. But of course, not enjoying is impossible, so they act like asses to the mongers.[/QUOTE]
What exactly do you mean by this?
Side note, I'd really like to visit Brazil and try out some of those women. They seem to have those thick nicely shaped bodies that I love so much.
So in Argentina I wouldn't have to worry about being robbed in broad daylight? And what part of Argentina did you go for mongering? I guess I should check out the Argentinian forum.
By the way, you said you took a Brazil girl from a "casa." What is that some kind of call girl house?
Cool! Link me please! I tried the Argentinian forum and find it confusing. Btw, what language do they speak in Argentina? I know spanish but if its portuguese then I'm screwed. How did you manage?
Argentina sounds interesting. How about you link me to what parts I should read of the Argentinian forums. I still can't figure them out.
So how much do you spend at Buenos Aires in one day? I'm guessing the only real expensive part is the air tickets.
I spent some time in Buenos Aires. It is very dangerous and heavily polluted. The tap water comes out grey. Even the rain will make you sick if you get a few drops in your mouth. You can not walk around safely even in the day time. If you are a gringo cops will shake you down on the street all the time. Youth gangs are a problem and are heavily armed. If you want to go to South America Santiago, Chile is a much better option and cheaper as well.
If One Hung Low got a steak with wine for $2 on Avenida Florida he must have been there five years ago.
One hung low must have been in Argentina before wwII to get $20 tln from a beautiful young girl. I have stayed at the mansion and hung oyu one weekend with Dickhead and I must say I was not impressed with the activity.
But Chile I found to be very expensive.
Brazil ( and I went 3-4 times a year for 10+ years) has some beautiful girls, but ugly americans have messed up Rio in my humble opinion. That and the fact the exchange rate sucks.
One hung low said nothing about Mexico. Which I found to have a better street scene than almost anywhere. Did not find any tremas and did not try any escorts.
My advice is Brazil way over Argentina
chow
[QUOTE=Stoker Star]I have stayed at the mansion and hung oyu one weekend with Dickhead and I must say I was not impressed with the activity.
[/QUOTE]
Uhh... Could you clarify that sentences a bit?
And if you preffer Brazil but hate Rio, then what part of Brazil do you recommend?
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Uhh... Could you clarify that sentences a bit?
And if you preffer Brazil but hate Rio, then what part of Brazil do you recommend?[/QUOTE]I must have clicked on to the wrong string. I thought this was the street walker section of Tijuana, Mexico.
[QUOTE=Surfnk9]I must have clicked on to the wrong string. I thought this was the street walker section of Tijuana, Mexico.[/QUOTE]TJ streetwalkers kick ass. They're #1, in this hemisphere.
No disrepect to anybody. I personally like some comparison of mongering sites.
But, let us not turn this into the Brazil board, part II. The Brazil board, is unfortunately, full of guys who spend more time complaining and setting up other guys than actually mongering. If some of those guys notice your comments on Rio, they will start posting their BS on here, too.
I am going to TJ again on Wed and Thursday. I will get down there early on Wed., then just spend the night. I do not want to stay in the alley, although I only pick up street girls.
Has anybody stayed in Pueblos Amigos before?
I have stayed in the Grand Hotel, but it was kind of boring. Just a bunch of rich tourist.
thanks,
TJ
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]
I am going to TJ again on Wed and Thursday. I will get down there early on Wed., then just spend the night. I do not want to stay in the alley, although I only pick up street girls.[/QUOTE]
Like you, it's street girls or nothing for me when in Tijuana. Do you know what the nightly fee to stay at one of the alley hotels is? I didn't bother asking when I was there because the thought of renting one of those crappy little rooms for the night didn't even cross my mind. But if the price is right, I think I could stay there overnight; I've stayed in worse places before. Besides, paying 30-50 pesos to use the room for just 20-30 minutes is a big ripoff I think; it would be smarter to rent a room for the night and just take girls upstairs at your leisure.
The Motel Alaska on Revolución is 230 pesos a night, Monday-Thursday. Are the alley hotels cheaper than that? Any idea how much a room at the Eduardo costs a night?
Can I get a layout of TJ and places to visit and avoid?
I know Adelitas is the spot, where is it exactly located?
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]The Brazil board, is unfortunately, full of guys who spend more time complaining and setting up other guys than actually mongering.
I have stayed in the Grand Hotel, but it was kind of boring. Just a bunch of rich tourist.
thanks,
TJ[/QUOTE]
What do you mean by setting up? Where is Grand Hotel and how much per night?
[QUOTE=Ezinho]it would be smarter to rent a room for the night and just take girls upstairs at your leisure.
[/QUOTE]
I think the girls are only allowed to go up to the hotel next to the bars they work at. So i doubt you can take them to just any hotel. Not sure on the situation for street girls.
[QUOTE=Kinga]I know Adelitas is the spot, where is it exactly located?[/QUOTE]
Any taxi driver can take you to it.
[QUOTE=Kinga]Can I get a layout of TJ and places to visit and avoid?
I know Adelitas is the spot, where is it exactly located?[/QUOTE]You should start with the thread:
Brockton O'Tool's TJ Guide
It's located towards the bottom of the Tijuana thread listing page. The one page just before this one.
Surfnk9
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]
I am going to TJ again on Wed and Thursday. I will get down there early on Wed., then just spend the night. I do not want to stay in the alley, although I only pick up street girls.
Has anybody stayed in Pueblos Amigos before?
I have stayed in the Grand Hotel, but it was kind of boring. Just a bunch of rich tourist.
Thanks,
TJ[/QUOTE]I've stayed at the Hotel Villa Zaragoza, one block east of Revolution between 7th and 8th. It was $45 a night mid-week and the desk guys are nice. The rooms have AC, they are reasonably clean, and secure. Other posts claim this is a chica friendly place, but I didn't bring anything back from La Zona with me. Just a drained dick.
Surfnk9
[QUOTE=Ezinho]
The Motel Alaska on Revolución is 230 pesos a night, Monday-Thursday. Are the alley hotels cheaper than that? Any idea how much a room at the Eduardo costs a night?[/QUOTE]
The Eduardo is definitely cheaper than that however it's cold water only and provides neither towels nor sheets and after the first chica you may be targeted for a surcharge.
Little off the subject maybe.
Anyway Found a website [url]www.tripadvisor.com[/url] and if you mess with it, you really get a view of maybe 20-30 hotels and with some of them peoples comments. Hope this helps.
Make sure that when you check into some of these that you ask if it is female guest friendly.
Happy hunting
[QUOTE=Firedsup]Little off the subject maybe.
Anyway Found a website [url]www.tripadvisor.com[/url] and if you mess with it, you really get a view of maybe 20-30 hotels and with some of them peoples comments. Hope this helps.
Make sure that when you check into some of these that you ask if it is female guest friendly.
Happy hunting[/QUOTE]I don't think you'll find any of the alley hotels listed on Tripadvisor. But it is helpful to find a decent hotel, with a pool and some amenities between trips to the Alley.
Yes definitely. I first heard of Adelitas and the Zona Norte from my friend. I figured it was like the stereotypes I had heard of TJ, that being that the hookers where all skanky drug addicts with way too much makeup. My friend told me it wasn't so I decided to do some research. That's how I found this place. I've been reading many of these posts for the longest time and even practically memorized Brockton's guide way before I took the plunge to come to TJ.
After reading so many topics and threads by all the fine fellows here, I already knew what to expect and practically even felt like I had already been to the Zona Norte and its many bars and had experienced the ups and downs that a lot of the other members went through. I'm so glad I came here first. Otherwise I would have most likely came to tj and got caught on some of the cheap strip bars down on Revolucion. I went to tj and knew exactly what to do, from where to park before the border, where to walk to and what places to avoid. Best times to come and even how to approach and negotiate the chicas.
A big thumbs up to this awesome place. :D
Efjayel,
The Grand Hotel is a north of Zona Norte. You can get a listing for it on expedia.com. You have seen the Grand Hotel before; it is the two large twin buildings you see when entering TJ. The rooms are really nice. I stayed there in a suite once with a friend who used his AARP discount. The rate was only $100/night.
Expedia usually has discounts.
TJ
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]Efjayel,
The Grand Hotel is a north of Zona Norte. You can get a listing for it on expedia.com. You have seen the Grand Hotel before; it is the two large twin buildings you see when entering TJ. The rooms are really nice. I stayed there in a suite once with a friend who used his AARP discount. The rate was only $100/night.
Expedia usually has discounts.
TJ[/QUOTE]
The Grand Hotel sounds good. I don't remember two large towers, is it walking distance from Alley?
[QUOTE=Kinga]Can I get a layout of TJ and places to visit and avoid?
I know Adelitas is the spot, where is it exactly located?[/QUOTE]
Kinga:
Most of what you need to know is in Brockton O Tooles guide. REad it over very carefully.
I would suggest that you take a saturday morning, dress up like a tourist and just walk the place until you become familiar with it.
For starters: AVOID THE BARS ON REVOLUTION BLVD.
DO NOT BUY SILVER FROM STREET VENDORS.
DO NOT FOLLOW ANYONE TO A "SPECIAL MASSAGE" PARLOR.
DO NOT CARRY MARIJUANA OR OTHER "DRUG." YOU WILL GO TO JAIL.
Cross the border on foot, find a "TAXI Libre" (white cab with orange stripe).
Tell him "ADelitas please for five bucks." If he says OK, get in the FRONT SEAT.
DO NOT GET INTO A YELLOW CAB.
If the taxi driver says "Adelitas is closed." You say: "Great, I always wanted to go there when it was closed just take me there."
When you get to Adelitas, go in, find a table, order a beer. Do not buy beer for girls yet, find someone you like to look at, one that makes you real horney, buy HER a beer. Don't go "arriba" (upstairs to the hotel) with her unless she agrees IN THE BAR to full sex, totally naked, you can suck her tits etc., for $60.00 plus the room fee.
Then go up and hope she keeps her end of the deal. Don't pay her up front, but shw her the money and put it ont he night table, out of reach and tell her she can take it after the session.
Get rocks off.
Pay girl.
Go back to bar.
Rinse and repeat.
When you are ready, exit Adelitas, turn right to the end of the block. Turn right again, to the next block, then turn right. Congratulations: you are at the entrance to "the alley."
Report back after your first Zona run and we'll see how things turned out.
Be safe and be nice.
Country John
I would take a cab there. The hotel is not really far, I walked to the alley and the border once, but on a hot day it would not be a fun walk.
TJ
[QUOTE=Country John]Kinga:
Cross the border on foot, find a "TAXI Libre" (white cab with orange stripe).
Tell him "ADelitas please for five bucks." If he says OK, get in the FRONT SEAT.
DO NOT GET INTO A YELLOW CAB.
Country John[/QUOTE]CJ,
Nowdays taxi libres are hard to catch at the border, go figure the local taxista wars.
These days when you cross over and go through the turnstyles (to the right), cross the street, turn left and go past the farmacias, McDonalds and regular yellow cabs, keep walking until you come to a line of locals waiting for taxis with signs posted for fares.
They are for the Taxis 'Economicos' (also yellow) and the standard fare to the zona (or Adelitas) is 30 pesos (3 bucks). I would otherwise follow your instructions to the letter.
Hope to meet up for that cerveza soon, my best to your novia.
Saludos!
This is where is confusing to me!
How do you convince an alley girl to go to your hotel room if you staying at hacienda de Santiago?
Most girls there work at the next door hotels, I never seen one going as far
as Hotel Santiago, so what's good about Hotel Santiago if they don't come to you room?
Are any decent hotels in the alley or near by to be safe enough to sleep overnight and to bring a girl once in wile without getting to pay every time you bring a girl in.
I can't recall the hotel name next door to AB, but anyway is this hotel friendly with non AB girls?
Do they let you come in with alley girls?
[QUOTE=Apache]
Nowdays taxi libres are hard to catch at the border, go figure the local taxista wars.
[/QUOTE]
The Taxi Libres queue up around the corner at the end of the block. Since the yellow taxi mafia is a pilar of the PRI, when Jorge Hank became mayor he relocated the Taxi Libre stand.
[QUOTE=Apache]CJ,
Nowdays taxi libres are hard to catch at the border, go figure the local taxista wars.
These days when you cross over and go through the turnstyles (to the right), cross the street, turn left and go past the farmacias, McDonalds and regular yellow cabs, keep walking until you come to a line of locals waiting for taxis with signs posted for fares.
They are for the Taxis 'Economicos' (also yellow) and the standard fare to the zona (or Adelitas) is 30 pesos (3 bucks). I would otherwise follow your instructions to the letter.
Hope to meet up for that cerveza soon, my best to your novia.
Saludos![/QUOTE]
Thanks for correcting me, I bring my car so I'm a bit out of touch witht he taxi game at the border these days.
Didn't we meet at a fiesta recently? Sheesh, my mind is going for sure! I hang out at El Torito on Revolution Saturday nights, it's my favorite place to go with my girlie and every once-in-a-while we slip into the Zona to check up on things.
Yeah, let me know when you're around. It would be cool to hook up for a brew!
Country John
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]This is where is confusing to me!
How do you convince an alley girl to go to your hotel room if you staying at hacienda de Santiago?
Most girls there work at the next door hotels, I never seen one going as far
as Hotel Santiago, so what's good about Hotel Santiago if they don't come to you room?
Are any decent hotels in the alley or near by to be safe enough to sleep overnight and to bring a girl once in wile without getting to pay every time you bring a girl in.
I can't recall the hotel name next door to AB, but anyway is this hotel friendly with non AB girls?
Do they let you come in with alley girls?[/QUOTE]
Hi HT. there is a difference between Street Girls and Alley girls. Most alley girls have boyfriends or other SOs and go home after their shift to feed the babies etc. Street girls are usually "walkers" and don't "post" in any particular spot.
Some girls on Constitution will go to your hotel, but for the most part, girls who post in the alley will not. The walkers will usually go to your hotel.
During the AlleyKat days, I stayed at the Leyva. It's next door to Chicago club and that got the job done. I've taken girls (Diana de Culiacan for example) back to Purblo Amigo.
Just ask the girls. Some will go so it's a matter of just putting it out there.
The hotel next to AB is The Cohilla Hotel. You can come and go as you please and bring anyone up. Cascades has a fee after the first girl.
Be Safe and Be Nice
Country John
[quote=country john]hi ht. there is a difference between street girls and alley girls. most alley girls have boyfriends or other sos and go home after their shift to feed the babies etc. street girls are usually "walkers" and don't "post" in any particular spot.
some girls on constitution will go to your hotel, but for the most part, girls who post in the alley will not. the walkers will usually go to your hotel.
during the alleykat days, i stayed at the leyva. it's next door to chicago club and that got the job done. i've taken girls (diana de culiacan for example) back to purblo amigo.
just ask the girls. some will go so it's a matter of just putting it out there.
the hotel next to ab is the cohilla hotel. you can come and go as you please and bring anyone up. cascades has a fee after the first girl.
be safe and be nice
country john[/quote]
hey cj how are you!
sorry i meant alley girls not sw,when i'm down there i don't see sw maybe one or two mostly **** or some drugy gringa, besides i recall one of your post that you quote not to pick up sw in the zona, you said they can set you up to rob you, is this correct cj??
i don't one a girl to stay tln, but i do like to be close to the action so after a nap i can go out and bring another girl if you know what i mean?
that's why i think hotel hacienda de santiago is not convenient if i still have to pay for a room at the alley because girls work that area and they stick to that wall.
how do you spot a sw, i know is a dumb question but everyone is walking in the zona and for me is difficult to tell a real sw from some rob.
one time in the zona i picked up a young sw 18+ good english i had my doubts about this one, she walked to me and offered a bbbj, and i couldn't resist the offer, then she asked me to follow her to a filth motel room with walls completely covered with graffiti, then she told me to wait in the room while she gets some condoms, wtf condoms for a bbbj? this was very suspicions to me because she kept asking me to stay in the room after i gave her the dough, i know stupid, but she told me she needed the money to pay for late room fees,this is the classic sw rob scam you see back home, the bs excuse of give me some money i need to pay for the room then she bails with the $$.
anyway i didn't wait any longer so i went out to where she was at the front desk and i asked for my money, and she refused, so i told her i was going to the cops, so she freak out and gave me my money back, and she asked me if she can keep $20, i said yes and i left that hotel very worry and scared!
that's why i'm nervous to pick up sw in the zona!
your comment?
[quote=hornytraveler]hey cj how are you!
sorry i meant alley girls not sw,when i'm down there i don't see sw maybe one or two mostly **** or some drugy gringa, besides i recall one of your post that you quote not to pick up sw in the zona, you said they can set you up to rob you, is this correct cj??
i don't one a girl to stay tln, but i do like to be close to the action so after a nap i can go out and bring another girl if you know what i mean?
that's why i think hotel hacienda de santiago is not convenient if i still have to pay for a room at the alley because girls work that area and they stick to that wall.
how do you spot a sw, i know is a dumb question but everyone is walking in the zona and for me is difficult to tell a real sw from some rob.
one time in the zona i picked up a young sw 18+ good english i had my doubts about this one, she walked to me and offered a bbbj, and i couldn't resist the offer, then she asked me to follow her to a filth motel room with walls completely covered with graffiti, then she told me to wait in the room while she gets some condoms, wtf condoms for a bbbj? this was very suspicions to me because she kept asking me to stay in the room after i gave her the dough, i know stupid, but she told me she needed the money to pay for late room fees,this is the classic sw rob scam you see back home, the bs excuse of give me some money i need to pay for the room then she bails with the $$.
anyway i didn't wait any longer so i went out to where she was at the front desk and i asked for my money, and she refused, so i told her i was going to the cops, so she freak out and gave me my money back, and she asked me if she can keep $20, i said yes and i left that hotel very worry and scared!
that's why i'm nervous to pick up sw in the zona!
your comment?[/quote]
classic sw scam. it's dangerous to follow them to their place, the bf could be waiting to club you.
sws do not "post" or stand in the alley or the zona, they're always moving. they have no health cards and the cops love to pick them up. they often have dope on them so it can be dangerous to be picked up with them by the cops, they might pass the dope to you.
i knew diana de culiacan, she was safe. others were scam artists and stupid mistakes. i learned some expensive lessons with sws. you're luckey to get any money back.
[QUOTE=Country John]
During the AlleyKat days, I stayed at the Leyva. It's next door to Chicago club and that got the job done.
Country John[/QUOTE]
Do you still recommend this hotel to stay overnight, and what other hotels you think are good to stay ol night and to bring girls from other bars like Tropicana ,
CC, Chavelas ETC.
CJ,
Why SW have no health cards?
I remember that SW I picked up, told me she couldn't go to the alley hotels because she didn't have a card.
Why they can just get one if they want to work, can they be hiding some STD?
and maybe that's the reason why? Or is something else, maybe you can explain?
Thanks again!
[quote=hornytraveler]cj,
why sw have no health cards?
i remember that sw i picked up, told me she couldn't go to the alley hotels because she didn't have a card.
why they can just get one if they want to work, can they be hiding some std?
and maybe that's the reason why? or is something else, maybe you can explain?
thanks again![/quote]
most are not stable (resourceful) enough to focus ant think that far ahead. plus it costs them money something like $30. most are drugged out and just go to the street to grab some quick money by sucking cock.
not my cup of tea but many guys love to dump loads down the throats of these (mostly skanks) chicas. now and then there is a looker but careful that she isn't ****. not worth it in my opinion. stick to the tried and true card carrying sgs.
the sws are for the most part pirating scabs trying to sneak in and skim some cream off the top from the legitimate card carrying sgs.
Thanks Ninguno Especial for your comments. I would like to add to them also.
Just because the girls are on the street goes not mean they are "skanks." Also, there seems to be a definitional problem at times on this thread; some people conflate streetwalker and streetgirl. In TJ there is a differnce between the two terms that is not present in other mongering areas.
Horny traveler explicitly mentioned a streetwalker who could not go into the alley hotels. She said she did not have a health card. To me that implies that she was not one of the streetgirls standing in the alley but a girl with no real ties to the TJ prositution trade. yes, she, and ,many streetwalkers are probably drug users. I also know some white girls who are theives and drug dealers. They are always getting busted and sent to jail in TJ. Now when a white girl spends a few months in a Mexican jail as if it is no thing you know she is bad!
In TJ, there is a difference between a streetwalker and a streetgirl that Ninguno Especial makes well, but it may not be as clear to newbies. The girls standing in front of the hotels are usually okay. Girls walking around in TJ can be trouble.
TJ
[quote=ninguno especial]most are not stable (resourceful) enough to focus ant think that far ahead. plus it costs them money something like $30. most are drugged out and just go to the street to grab some quick money by sucking cock.
not my cup of tea but many guys love to dump loads down the throats of these (mostly skanks) chicas. now and then there is a looker but careful that she isn't ****. not worth it in my opinion. stick to the tried and true card carrying sgs.
the sws are for the most part pirating scabs trying to sneak in and skim some cream off the top from the legitimate card carrying sgs.[/quote]
that make sense to me, and you're right there are a few sw that look ****, but they always claimed to be 18 or 19 , which i don't buy.
i think tj cops are using some of these girls as baits for zona newbies,
because the cops know that these sw are in the zona the sw are hanging around just a few feet from the police station and they don't do anything to remove these girls from the area.
I just scrolled down and saw somebody else had also discussed the difference between SGs and Sws. Sorry for the duplication and redundancy.
On cops and SWs:
I was told by a SW that when she first started working in TJ, the cops let her work for a few hours, then they took her in a room and beat her up. They took all of her money and told her she had to pay them if she wanted to work.
So, yes, I think the cops are getting something from these girls.
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]I just scrolled down and saw somebody else had also discussed the difference between SGs and Sws. Sorry for the duplication and redundancy.
TJ[/QUOTE]
To no confuse the issue, we should call the girls standing on the wall "alley Girls"
and the ones you see walking around the area too much Street Walkers,
[quote=ninguno especial]most are not stable (resourceful) enough to focus ant think that far ahead. plus it costs them money something like $30. most are drugged out and just go to the street to grab some quick money by sucking cock.
not my cup of tea but many guys love to dump loads down the throats of these (mostly skanks) chicas. now and then there is a looker but careful that she isn't ****. not worth it in my opinion. stick to the tried and true card carrying sgs.
the sws are for the most part pirating scabs trying to sneak in and skim some cream off the top from the legitimate card carrying sgs.[/quote]
good post.
another thing you should know is that walkers live day to day. they work literally for the rent and to eat today. once today is out of the way, they relax until tomorrow.
they are not concerned about health cards, they could care less. they just need 200p for the rent and 10p for food. if they have a kid (or two) then it means more time on the street.
it's also true that walkers (and posters) have to pay the cops. walkers are especially vulnerable because they can spend the weekend in jail if they don't pay up. posters are usually good payers so seldom any problems there.
i watched as a walker was literally taken out of the arms of her customer in front of chicago club one day. they threw her into the back of the truck like a common criminal. the remark was made that she "didn't pay up."
it's a tough life in the zona norte, real tough.
country john
She is back after 3 or 4 months looking great. They call her 30 Second Paola because she use to last on the street only 30 seconds before some monger would pull her back in to the room.
Now she may last a few minutes depending on monger foot traffic.
[QUOTE=Ninguno Especial]She is back after 3 or 4 months looking great. They call her 30 Second Paola because she use to last on the street only 30 seconds before some monger would pull her back in to the room.
Now she may last a few minutes depending on monger foot traffic.[/QUOTE]Good, I thought I was going crazy. Every trip for the last four months I would look for her and never find her. I believe previous postings said she stands outside the Eduardo Hotel, is that right? Does she have specific hours? I looked for her all up and down the street, at different times of the day but with no luck. It's good to know she's back. I'm down there in a week or so. I'll report back.
Surfnk9
[QUOTE=Surfnk9]she stands outside the Eduardo Hotel, is that right? Does she have specific hours?
Surfnk9[/QUOTE]
She stands 15 to 20 feet East of the entrance in the afternoons into the evening later on Saturdays. Blond spinner can't miss her. Gives a pretty good session as low as 150 pesos bottom nude only or would want most likely 250 pesos (less than $25) for full nude but these are 15 to 20 min. sessions so you may want to bargain inside the room for more time if you are enjoying yourself.
Also YMMV if she doesn't know you she may ask $30 but most will cave down $10. I've only taken her in for one spin only because I have too many others to tend to.
I live in Los Angeles which is about 130 miles from the Zona Roja. Making the trip is not an easy one. My car uses up a whole tank of gas going and coming back plus I have to worry about my car breaking down on the way. It's not exactly in the best of shape.
Expense wise its not very economical. I spend about $35 on gas. Each chica is about $60. Then its $15 dollars including tips for drinks and $12 for the room and the $1 tip for the cum boy. So its almost $90 dollars per chica. And I usually go with two chicas on one trip. Then its $5 bucks for a taxi ride back to the border. Total it usually comes to about $220 dollars for one of these excursions.
Totally worth it but expensive. Oh well. At least I'm going to gradually get a $10 raise in the coming year. Should be able to make more trips!
And oh yeah, I really need to check out this Paola girl everyone keeps talking about.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]I live in Los Angeles which is about 130 miles from the Zona Roja. Making the trip is not an easy one. My car uses up a whole tank of gas going and coming back plus I have to worry about my car breaking down on the way. It's not exactly in the best of shape.
Expense wise its not very economical. I spend about $35 on gas. Each chica is about $60. Then its $15 dollars including tips for drinks and $12 for the room and the $1 tip for the cum boy. So its almost $90 dollars per chica. And I usually go with two chicas on one trip. Then its $5 bucks for a taxi ride back to the border. Total it usually comes to about $220 dollars for one of these excursions.
Totally worth it but expensive. Oh well. At least I'm going to gradually get a $10 raise in the coming year. Should be able to make more trips!
And oh yeah, I really need to check out this Paola girl everyone keeps talking about.[/QUOTE]
Check your PM's !
Hello, Gentlemen.
Just wanted to contribute to this fine post, I have been going to TJ, but Have not posted anything in a while. Like a lot of you I also have been looking for Paola and thought that she was gone for good. Anyway, I was there last Thursday and met, Gaby from Veracruz, she is really short, about 4'11, really cute and almost looks oriental (this is why she has so much luck with gringos she told me), she was almost next to the entrance to Hong Kong she charged me $20 for two positions w/top on or $30 for nude. I was kind of short of funds and wanted to save some $$ for Hong Kong so I chose the $20 option, in a way it was very sexy having her keep her top on while she mounted me and then end doggy. She is very sweet and talkative. Afterwards I went to Hong Kong, I just kicked back and had my beers, enjoying the show, it was early (5pm) so it was full of locals, so the choice in girls was not great, but you are able to find a couple that are worth your dollar in her pussy.
There was this girl, long black hair, with a tiny bikini, shoving her pussy in your face if you were sitting in the far end tables for a buck, I loved the fact that she wasnt fully shaved and she let me finger her till she got so wet, and even I felt light headed, it was fun and great, so I took her upstairs for the second round, I banged the hell out of her, and she loved it.
I didnt even count the positions, nor did keep track of the time, all I know is I had her on all fours on top of the bed and was shooting my load, and hearing sweet music and seeing stars when we were reminded of the time. It was great, and all for $40. All in all I spent a grand total of $100 and had a great time (it makes up for the times I spent too much).
Mental note: what was different about this trip that I spent less money? I said no to the waiters in Hong kong everytime they came over to ask me if I wanted to buy a drink for the lady.
Be safe out there, have fun and be dont over spend, remember you'll be back sooner than you think.
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[QUOTE=Efjayel]I live in Los Angeles which is about 130 miles from the Zona Roja. Making the trip is not an easy one. My car uses up a whole tank of gas going and coming back plus I have to worry about my car breaking down on the way. It's not exactly in the best of shape.
Expense wise its not very economical. I spend about $35 on gas. Each chica is about $60. Then its $15 dollars including tips for drinks and $12 for the room and the $1 tip for the cum boy. So its almost $90 dollars per chica. And I usually go with two chicas on one trip. Then its $5 bucks for a taxi ride back to the border. Total it usually comes to about $220 dollars for one of these excursions.
Totally worth it but expensive. Oh well. At least I'm going to gradually get a $10 raise in the coming year. Should be able to make more trips!
And oh yeah, I really need to check out this Paola girl everyone keeps talking about.[/QUOTE]I agree, it's expensive. These TJ gals are not cheap, especially the CGs. I think of AB, CC, and the Alley as the "Bermuda Triangle". My wad can disappear and disappear fast; with my appetite. Lately, I've been doing 1 CG and 1 alley girl every trip. I've been trying to cut back to make sure I have more money going to savings. But there are a fair number of attractive alley girls and if you speak some spanish, you can get a rapport with them quickly. And with that $200, you can bang atleast 6 alley girls sin ropa! Imagine that.
Jay
[QUOTE=Xxnegrito]........and met, Gaby from Veracruz, she is really short, about 4'11, really cute and almost looks oriental (this is why she has so much luck with gringos she told me), she was almost next to the entrance to Hong Kong she charged me $20 for two positions w/top on or $30 for nude. I was kind of short of funds and wanted to save some $$ for Hong Kong so I chose the $20 option, in a way it was very sexy having her keep her top on while she mounted me and then end doggy. She is very sweet and talkative. [/QUOTE]
Is that Gabby with the "snaggle tooth?" She's been around for a while. If it's the same girl I took, she has the sweetest titties and is very chatty. Might not be the same girl but if it is, you took a good one. My Gabriela might have been from Puebla, can't remember that part but what a trat in the sack! If only Gringas could be like her!
Country John
I've seen quite a few posts about Marisol but no descriptions regarding appearance. Same with Paola. Does anyone have a description that would describe what they look like? Where are they usually located? Great board here. I'm headed to TJ soon!
Visited on Saturday night. While in the Zona, took a walk down the alley, just for fun. I hadn't been down probably since last year sometime.
Anyway, about mid-way through, on the left-hand side as you're walking from Constitucion, I saw what appeared to be some quite young "asian-looking" boys standing against the wall amidst the other chicas. (By young I mean in the 14 - 18 Y.O. range)
WTF? Is this something new? Have I just not seen it before? Is there something even seedier for sale there, or were they just hanging out waiting for their parents? :-)
This seemed kinda disturbing. Anybody know more?
PP
Jeez, lets hope they where waiting for their parents. I heard there is such a market for that in Tj. Exactly where, I don't know nor care to. But I sure hope it doesn't start in my beloved Zona Roja.
What where they doing? Where they dressed for it and where they trying to attract customers?
Some Asian look young because of their small appearance, but I'm sure they're
old enough to hang in the zona, I personally have seen a lot of Asian guys hanging around, they're good expender and girls love them.
So don't get paranoid about it, TJ is not Thailand, sometimes we see things in the wrong way.
There's also the possibility of these young Asians just been curious about TJ red district like any new tourist to the area.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Jeez, lets hope they where waiting for their parents. I heard there is such a market for that in Tj. Exactly where, I don't know nor care to. But I sure hope it doesn't start in my beloved Zona Roja.
What where they doing? Where they dressed for it and where they trying to attract customers?[/QUOTE]They were wearing clean white button-up cotton shirts, some sort of dark pants. They seemed to be watching the passing parade, but weren't "psst-ing" (is that a word? ) the customers. They were glued to the wall, sort of between some other chicas. They looked to me like young gay hustlers, but I didn't want to jump to any conclusions. I have some very good gay friends, and have certainly seen gay hustlers. I thought at first they might be "street" kids, you know, just hanging out, trying to scroung a buck. But they seemed too well dressed, I. E. Too neat and too clean. It looked fishy.
FWIW, I've traveled pretty extensively in Asia, so, while not an expert, I have a reasonable handle on their appearance. These kids were pretty young, and were definitely not the asian customer you'the normally see at, say CC (like the Chinese guy sitting across from me in last night). They certainly didn't appear to be "buyers. "
PP
[QUOTE=Phordphan]They were wearing clean white button-up cotton shirts, some sort of dark pants. They seemed to be watching the passing parade, but weren't "psst-ing" (is that a word? ) the customers. They were glued to the wall, sort of between some other chicas. They looked to me like young gay hustlers, but I didn't want to jump to any conclusions. I have some very good gay friends, and have certainly seen gay hustlers. I thought at first they might be "street" kids, you know, just hanging out, trying to scroung a buck. But they seemed too well dressed, I. E. Too neat and too clean. It looked fishy.
FWIW, I've traveled pretty extensively in Asia, so, while not an expert, I have a reasonable handle on their appearance. These kids were pretty young, and were definitely not the asian customer you'the normally see at, say CC (like the Chinese guy sitting across from me in last night). They certainly didn't appear to be "buyers. "
PP[/QUOTE]
Religious group maybe?
[QUOTE=Golfer245]I've seen quite a few posts about Marisol but no descriptions regarding appearance. Same with Paola. Does anyone have a description that would describe what they look like? Where are they usually located? [/QUOTE]
If you'll read back in this thread you'll find descriptions and locations for both of them.
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]Religious group maybe?[/QUOTE]Hmm. Mormons? I didn't see any bicycles! ;-)
PP
After finishing at AB, hit the alley. Met Alexa (20y, Mexico City) standing in front of Hotel Coahuila. Had noticed her sweet baby face a few times before and was curious. She's about 5 feet and maybe 95 lbs; very sweet and innocent disposition. We agreed to go up to the hotel for $30 sin ropa. This session wasn't as good because Alexa has the smallest, tighest pussy that I've ever been in. It was hard putting it in, even with lubricant. So we went for about 5 minutes in mish and POW. That was it. When I pulled out, I noticed that the condom had broke at the base of my dick (luckily so.). I was thinking holy shit. And she had initially put the condom on me inside-out/I wondered why she was having such a hard time putting on the condom. But like I say, the compatibility wasn't there; my dick is way too big to be trying to squeeze into a little pussy like that. But very sweet girl though.
Jay
I arrived to TJ at around 12:30 noon. Decided to walk to check the vendors. I got lost and had to backtrack to find the zona. Checked the girls out in front of Hotel Eduardo. After soon negotation, I took Barbara de Vera Cruz and paid. 33, got BJ, sin ropa, 1 position. I got the two minute warning and nutted in the final seconds. She has a nice body but attitude was bad in the room. For some reason, I found it more appealing. Maybe I got batter wife syndrome. I flirted with her outside to get her to crack a smile. I left for Mario's bar which I read up so much from that other site. Bought beers for my new amigos while singing karyoke. Pretty cool place to hang.
Then headed back to Eduardo and decided to take up Paola de Mexico City. Paid. 35 for sin ropa, dos positions. Like Barbara, I don't know if these ladies are loose or my penis is pencil thin but I couldn't nut with Paola. She let me have three positions with her left leg on my shoulder and I pounded and pounded but couldn't. She gave me a few minutes in this position but I couldn't nut and had to give myself a hand. I grabbed a taxi libre back to la linea and drove home happy.
BTW, be sure to bring some liquid soap to wash yourself. I forgot to buy one before heading across and it became a pain in the butt to wash yourself.
Total spend: 100 bucks for two street girls, beers for me and amigos, taxi libre, and parking.
[QUOTE=Phordphan]Hmm. Mormons? I didn't see any bicycles! ;-)
PP[/QUOTE]
LOL that was funny!
Mormons are from UTAH, Did you see photo cameras hanging on their necks? :)
very classic Japanese tourists!
[QUOTE=Jay Love]Alexa has the smallest, tighest pussy that I've ever been in. It was hard putting it in, even with lubricant.
Jay[/QUOTE]
You lucky bast*** !!! :) where did you find such a jewel? please say it?
Pm me I asked first, let's keep her between us no one else just kidding :)
Time, day location? Sorry but I'm very curious to know!
I could never ever find anything tight in the zona, most zona girls pussies are like the Grand Canyon! Again your one lucky guy a find in a million!!
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]
I could never ever find anything tight in the zona, most zona girls pussies are like the Grand Canyon![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jerkynomore]Like Barbara, I don't know if these ladies are loose or my penis is pencil thin but I couldn't nut with Paola.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the laughs, you guys. Don't feel bad, I had the same feeling when I was in TJ last month, I was afraid my dick was shrinking or something!
There's no worse feeling than entering a woman and then having to check to see if you're actually inside of her. Or realizing that you could fit another dick in her and it would still be loose.
When I lived in Ecuador, I found out that some of the best looking girls at the cheap casas did up to 20 guys a day. Does anyone have any estimates of how many guys some of the more popular girls do a day in Tijuana? Maybe the same amount? What's strange is that the pussies were much tighter in Ecuador than in TJ. Maybe Americans really do have larger dicks than the local populations...
Hi HT,
I've run into about 3 to 4 alley girls with tight pussies. All of these girls are slim and petite young girls (19-20y). And I don't think that I have a super big dick either. But here's a list with some relevant info. /hope this helps:
Alexa (20y, Mexico City): about 5', 90 lbs. ; brunette with shoulder-length hair. Looks about 16y, has an adorable baby face/innocent demeanor. Small mouth and medium-sized brown eyes. Stands in front of hotel coahuila. Smallest pussy yet. Always see her Sunday nights/but had her this past sat. Night.
Alejandra (20-21y, veracruz): about 5'1'' to 5'3'', 100 lbs. ; long black hair to middle of back. Very smiley and cheerful disposition. Has dark brown small eyes. Stands a few feet away from Alexa in front Hotel Coahuila/I used Hoel la Valentina with her, which is close by. Usually see her Sunday nights but also seen her this past sat. Night while taking Alexa up. Good service/sin ropa with 3 positions for $30.
Jasmine (20y, Guadalajara): about 5'3'' to 5'5'', 110 lbs. ; medium brown hair pulled back. Had light eyes (I think hazel) and fair skin. Stands near hotel najarra (something like that), opposite side of street to hotel coahuila. Always had seen her Sunday nights. She's very generous; only asked for $20 sin ropa but I gave her $25. Had her on a Sunday night. Has one kid but still has a very tight pussy.
Elizabeth (21y-22y, veracruz): about 5'4'' to 5'5'', 130 lbs. ; hair was blonde but now brunette (long hair to middle of back). Has fair skin and freckled pretty face. Stands down past hotel cascades. Had her on a Sunday night but also seen her this past sat. Night. She is a little stubborn and pouty; but none the less has a tight pussy (or had). LOL.
I 've just run into these tight pussies coincidentally; I actually don't prefer too tight of a pussy because I'll come fast. And I don't feel like I get my money's worth. The girls I enjoy the most usually have 1 to 2 kids. I'm going down next week one day during the late evening to try out Paola; I hear she's loose/that should be some good pussy. I can't wait.
Jay
[QUOTE=Ezinho]Maybe Americans really do have larger dicks than the local populations...[/QUOTE]
lol, that reminds me of that Chinpokoman episode of South Park.
[QUOTE=Jay Love]Hi HT,
Stands in front of hotel coahuila. [/QUOTE]
That would be the Adelita hotel. Are you talking about the back (alley) entrance by La Valentina Bar?
[QUOTE=Ninguno Especial]That would be the Adelita hotel. Are you talking about the back (alley) entrance by La Valentina Bar?[/QUOTE]I believe so. I didn't realize that it was the same hotel. The rooms aren't as plush as the AB hotel rooms.
[QUOTE=Jay Love]After finishing at AB, hit the alley. Met Alexa (20y, Mexico City) standing in front of Hotel Coahuila. .
Jay[/QUOTE]There is a hotel named Coahuila adjacent to Adelita’s. Or could the hotel name be Cascadas? It’s located in the Callejon Coahuila alley, across the street from hotel Eduardo and between Miami bar and La Valentina. As you enter Cascadas the stairs are on the left and to the right there is some chairs. The counter is at the top of the stairs directly to your right.
It’s nice to hear that there are a few more girls in the alley with a tight one since Melany @ Michoacan #1 moved to Chicago club. She is still a fun one to play with though.
After all the good reviews went to look for Paola and she was there standing next to the Eduardo hotel, skinny girl, long blond hair with a red stripe, she's a mix of Asian and Mexican Indian. I checked her for a few minutes and she does get a lot of business, didn't participate not my type too skinny for my taste.
Anyway for those who are looking for her, I found her this past Wednesday around 4pm.
[QUOTE=Jay Love]I believe so. I didn't realize that it was the same hotel. The rooms aren't as plush as the AB hotel rooms.[/QUOTE]
The hotel you are referring to (entrance from the alley) is Cascades Hotel. The Cohilla hotel is above Adelitas and is sometimes referred to as the "Adelitas" hotel. The Cohilla rooms are nicer than Cascades, but Cohilla doesn't have a TV in the guest room, only in the romper rooms.
Country John
Headed to the zona around 11pm sat night. WOW, adelita and hong kong were packed! I've never seen it so full, it was hard to get a beer.
So I headed out to visit our lovely alley ladies. ended up with a cutie standing next to hong kong. I've only been with a handfull of alley girls but so far on two occasions when I was doing it de perrito, I saw that the chica was checking her text messages! I almost started laughing, I guess I'm not the casanova that I thought I was. ever happen to any of you guys?
my second trip to tj. i decided on an impulse to go down to tj. got there around 12:00, parked for 10 bucks. damn weekend prices. i walked to the zona. i don't know why people are scared. i can understand going at night but i feel more safe in tj than in watts where i commute to work. i checked the alley girls but decided to grab a beer at mario's bar first.
first girl was carolina in front of eduardo. negotiated 35 bucks for bj, sin ropa, 2 positions. she was nice and gave a good session. i know we like to criticize the provider and never ourselves. personally, i really didn't have a performance. the bj was decent, mish for about 5 minutes, and then switched to cg. i couldn't hold it and blew my load in about 20 seconds. got cleaned up and went to mario's bar for some more cerveza. after an hour of karyoke and a few beers for me and una chica named monica, i went on the prowl again.
since all the girls i've had already were from eduardo, i wanted to try something else. unfortunately, sara grabbed me and wouldn't let me go. i was kinda buzzed so i don't even remember what the deal was. since i noticed she had a pretty big belly, i asked if she was pregs. she said "comer" which i took as just fat. in the room, she said it was 25 bucks for bj, 1 position. the bj was short and we went to mish. i asked her for sin ropa and she complied without any extra charge. i'm a talker in bed and found out she has un esposo con 1 nino. sara was real nice and played around with my body. when i heard her say something tiempo, i took that as you should speed up because time is short. i started pounding her faster and finally unloaded.
walked back to la linea. bought some crap from the vendors and waited in line for about 30 minutes. total spent: 10 for parking, 60 for two chicas, 6 for two trips to hotel eduardo, 12 for beers/tip at mario, 20 for crap i don't need, 3 bucks for beggars: grand total of 111 bucks for 4 sweet hours in tj.
i'm going to save some cash from my next paycheck and visit adelitas on my next trip. i'll try to get some of my amigos to come along.
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[QUOTE=DBCooper] so far on two occasions when I was doing it de perrito, I saw that the chica was checking her text messages! I almost started laughing, I guess I'm not the casanova that I thought I was. ever happen to any of you guys?[/QUOTE]
Funny.. No, hasn't happened lately but I can recall a street girl who counted her money while I pumped her.. LOL
The younger ones that are new seem to be preoccupied with the cell phone for the first year or 2.
[QUOTE=Jerkynomore]
First girl was Carolina in front of Eduardo. Negotiated 35 bucks for BJ, sin ropa, 2 positions. She was nice and gave a good session. [/QUOTE]
Carolina is one of my favorite street girls. Having said that, I rarely talk to her and have not taken her in for years only because there are other fish to fry..
She is known for great deep throat.
Enjoyed your report...
[QUOTE=Efjayel]
Also, I unplug some electrical part on my engine which prevents the engine from running. Not fail proof but at least its something.[/QUOTE]
Me too! I remove the engine from the car and place it in my back pack :)
Dragging that V6 of yours around must be a pretty good workout.
I just left TJ and of course had a good time. Just wanted to share with you guys that, all of the SG's that I talked to quoted $20 sin ropa. I was really surprised because all I have seen posted is $30 sin ropa, from the other mongers.
Chris H
[QUOTE=Surfnk9] 9:24pm, precisely the time at which I was pounding a tight young chica in doggy as she moaned “papie”.[/QUOTE]
I like this post very funny shit!
She was saying to you "papie" I think your car is gone from the parking lot,LOL
:)
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Dragging that V6 of yours around must be a pretty good workout.[/QUOTE]
Yes it is, I think next time I would take the battery instead! :)
$12,000 dollars!!!? I can only wonder what your teeth must look like...
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Went alone to AB at 5PM, wasn't that crowded, spent 15 mts and headed to Alley. Allaey was pretty much empty. Nothing as per the previous postings. Spent 30 mts and had 4 SOL beers for $7 and went to alley again. This time one 5/10 chica standing near to HK. Her name was Zenith from Mexcocity. She told $20 for her $5 for room. Went upstairs and it was one of the worst experiences. She charged $5 for being naked and $5 for doggie. She started forcing me to finish, finish. What ever you talk only response is No Comprendo. Very bad experience. But will keep trying. Back by 7:30 PM. Everything was smooth.
Thanks
I know this is a SG thread but I wanted to briefly add something on this subject.
I got root canal last year by a very good endodontist with a crown by an equally good general dentist in TJ for $450 total.
I was told it would be three times that in the states by a lesser qualified dentist who said he couldn't save the tooth.
Dental implants are very expensive, The average implant in TJ is about U$1k per tooth.
Gas expenses can add up for repeat dentist visits if you live far away from TJ.
Most dental insurances in the U.S. won't cover cosmetics like crowns, bridges implants etc.
What about getting braces? Cause that's really what I need to do.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]What about getting braces? Cause that's really what I need to do.[/QUOTE]For your legs or teeth?
Made an alley stroll after finishing at AB. Chose Ana (Mexico City), 20y standing near Hotel Eduardo. Very pretty, young girl; has a pleasant personality too. Did some petting and sucked her nice tits (A cups) before sex. And once again, another nice tight pussy: fit like a glove. Only did mish but enjoyed sex with Ana. Will definitely repeat with her soon.
Jay
[QUOTE=Surfnk9]For your legs or teeth?[/QUOTE]
legs... no wait, my teeth!
So is that the famous Paola everyone keeps talking about? Oddly enough, I can't really remember the face of most of the girls I see on the street. Well probably because I'm not really looking at their faces. lol.
I recall a few but Paola doesn't look familiar.
[QUOTE=Surfnk9]For your legs or teeth?[/QUOTE]
This one just killed me! LOL very funny shit!
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]This one just killed me! LOL very funny shit![/QUOTE]Braces for your legs won't "work"; you're already too old. LOL. I had to wear braces for about 6 months when I was a baby; just after I started walking.
Jay
[QUOTE=Jay Love]Braces for your legs won't "work"; you're already too old. LOL. I had to wear braces for about 6 months when I was a baby; just after I started walking.
Jay[/QUOTE]
??????????????????????
I'm not the one looking for braces, I guess you quote to the wrong member?
[QUOTE=Jay Love]Braces for your legs won't "work"; you're already too old. LOL. I had to wear braces for about 6 months when I was a baby; just after I started walking.
Jay[/QUOTE]
See, that's what happens when you don't drink your milk!
[QUOTE=Efjayel]See, that's what happens when you don't drink your milk![/QUOTE]
That's what I always tell the girls that wont swallow :)
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]That's what I always tell the girls that wont swallow :)[/QUOTE]
Well, I don't know what to tell you if your going with girls who have leg braces. D:
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Well, I don't know what to tell you if your going with girls who have leg braces. D:[/QUOTE]Are you kidding?
Chicks with braces are the best!! If you find one with braces on their legs and their teeth, she's a keeper! :D
09/02/07 (sunday):
After finishing with a favorite at AB; met Flor(20y, veracruz) standing near la valentina. She's very petite and friendly. We agreed on "everything" for $40; everything defined as clothes off, bj, and multiple positions. I had a couple more beers than usual so it took me a long time to come. I ended paying her $20 more to extend the time to 1 hour. She's a real pleaser; we switched positions close to ten times. A good bang for the buck.
09/08/07 (saturday night):
Started a new job this week, which means I'll have to go back to fridays and/or saturdays in TJ. Anyways, did two girls last night.
Alejandra(20y, veracruz):
She's also near la valentina. Our second encounter, alejandra is a very pretty and sweet girl. I always tell her so(while I'm banging on her, LOL). We did multiple positions after a great cbj. After sex, we talked for a while, including TLN but she wanted way too much.
Gabby(20y, veracruz):
A club-quality girl here. The first time that I've seen her; said she's only been working for a month. found her down past hotel cascades. She's about 5'1'', dark skin, doll face, and nice natural tits. We did sex sin ropa for $30; she's got some good pussy too. I gave her an extra $20 for 3-4 more positions; well worth it. She knew how to move and enjoyed the sex as well. Will repeat with her in 2 weeks.
Jay
[QUOTE=Jay Love]09/02/07 (sunday):Gabby(20y, veracruz):
A club-quality girl here. The first time that I've seen her; said she's only been working for a month. found her down past hotel cascades. She's about 5'1'', dark skin, doll face, and nice natural tits. We did sex sin ropa for $30; she's got some good pussy too. I gave her an extra $20 for 3-4 more positions; well worth it. She knew how to move and enjoyed the sex as well. Will repeat with her in 2 weeks.
Jay[/QUOTE]
The last time I banged Gabby, if it's the same girl, she was celebrating the 5th anniversary of her 20th birthday and that was a bit over two years ago. hehehehehe. Latinas...sheesh.
You're right about her tits, they have to be among the most beautiful, natural and perky. Ahh, maybe a different girl but then again........maybe not!
Anyway, great TR.
Country John
I went to TJ today and decided to go with one of the girls in the schoolgirl uniforms near Adelita. when you exit AB, make a right and cross the street, and there are 4 or 5 girls dressed up in the schoolgirl outfits. Today I tried Marisa (or maybe Mariana), 22 from Veracruz. I'm not going to even bother with a full trip report, lets just say I do not recommend her. She played with her cell phone the whole time, I think she was texting someone. Also, she had the driest pussy I have ever fucked in my life, and when I told her needed some lube, she said she didn't have any. WTF?? What kind of puta doesn't carry lube? That's like a cop that doesn't carry a nightstick, wtf? I shit you not, it felt like I was sticking my dick into a hot bucket of sand. And to top everything off, the condom broke. In hindsight, I wasn't suprised at all, when you have a dry condom and a pussy that makes the Sahara desert seem moist, these things are bound to happen. Anyways, I had to finish...ahem...myself off. Afterwards, she asks for a propina, and I do this Wicked Witch of the East-type cackle, since I can''t believe she would ask for one after what happened. Asked if I would see her again tomorrow, and I just lied and said maybe.
Name: Marisa or Mariana
Face: 5.5
Body: 5 (only saw her ass but tits look small. Ass was small and kind of boney).
Wetness of Soft-taco: Negative eleventy-billion (is this even a real number? Oh well, who cares).
Attitude: 7 outside, 3 inside
Price: 150 pesos
Ezinho recommends?: Umm, no...see above.
Afterwards I wanted to keep torturing myself, so I decided to go to Adelita Bar. I'd post this part of my report in the appropriate thread, but they're talking about cockfights over there, so I'll just do it here. Went inside and I was impressed, there were some very beautiful women in there today. I talked to an old blond wench named Carolena, I didn't buy her a drink but she sat with me anyways. I'd say she's about 35 or so. She didn't want to leave for some reason. When she finally did leave, Maribela was dancing onstage, and she came over and stuck her tits in my face, so I gave her a 10 peso coin and told her to come see me after she was done. As promised, she came over and we started chatting. Pretty nice girl actually, 28 years old and quite tall, from Monterrey. Nice tits, fake but looked great. Nice hair too, well how I like it, dark and curly. I had to leave early, but told her I would be back for her, as long as she would let me take some pics if I took her up. She said regular photos were ok, so I will be back for her early next week.
A couple other Streetgirl notes; there were some nice looking ones out today, especially by the Eduardo. Nancy looks like she changed her haircolor a little bit, it's darker now. I'll probably do her again tomorrow.
Overall, with the exception of the schoolgirl wench I did today, I had a pretty good time. I'll post another report in the next couple of days.
Arrived at AB a little after 10p, had a beer and checked out the girls/talked to a couple priors. She lots of girls that I wanted to do. However, decided to make it a "quantity" night and headed for the alley.
Flor(veracruz):First girl for the night/second time with Flor. Great CBJ, and multiple positions sin ropa. Always stands near hotel la valentina. Getting a good rapport with Flor;will definitely consider her for a TLN soon.
Linda(mexico city):Found Linda across from Hotel Hacienda/along the bars just before making that right turn onto the alley. Very pretty face and voluptuous body(with nice full tits). We did sex sin ropa for $30 with multiple positions. She took dick well but she's definitely not a pleaser;I wanted to do it longer in doggy but we stopped after 2 minutes in doggy. She tried to upsell for more time but I passed.
Gabby(vercruz):Second time with Gabby;stands down past HK bar. Beautiful face, skin, and awesome natural tits. Good hand job and 3 positions for $30. Gabby seems to really enjoy the sex; bucking her hips into it and smiling. Priceless!
A good night despite having a lot of shit on my mind;mainly related to "friends" owing me money. Will enjoy saturday night at hooters but planning to cruise down early sunday evening for a vivamex massage.
[QUOTE=Ezinho]I went to TJ today and decided to go with one of the girls in the schoolgirl uniforms near Adelita. when you exit AB, make a right and cross the street, and there are 4 or 5 girls dressed up in the schoolgirl outfits.[/QUOTE]
I know which ones you are talking about. Those girls or a few of those girls are really pushy to make a sale. I actually find it arousing when they hold me and put their arms around me. And when I try to fight them off, they just hold on tighter. I don't really care much for their looks though. They don't really do it for me.
I recall once, they called me over saying "guerito." When I came up to them, as a joke I said, "Las Dos!" Meaning "both of you." And surprisingly they wanted to, and started to drag me upstairs. I didn't want to go since I had just finished two sessions back at Adelitas. So I just fought them off. Told them I'd be back later. I saw one of them later that night but I had no money left. I promised her I'd be back in a month or so and that I'd come see her. Never did though. I figured they would probably be bad in the sack. But maybe some day I will go back just so I can do both of them. lol
Running around with Ezinho the other day, I finally tried a street girl. I wanted the first one I spoke to (a real nice looking girl). But we did the walk, then ended up at Hong Kong. Finally I said forget it, I'm going back to get the 1st one - she was gone. So I took another. This little **** agreed to a bj and 2 positions for $20 (plus $5 for the room). Then the **** doesn't want to blow. Shes giving me a hj with tissue to get me hard. We talked about it, and I almost walked, but I figured I'd just bang the shit outta her and leave. So I did! Don't care for them. Too much bullshit with the negotiations (bj extra, sin ropa extra, multiple positions extra, etc). WTF
I prefer the Bar chicas. They have more ass anyway.
A brief report for saturday night. Arrived at AB around 10p. Had a corona while watching the strip show before heading to the alley:
Flor(~20y, veracruz): la valentina hotel. Flor has become a regular for me now. I pay her $40 for BJ and sex sin ropa with multiple positions. She's gives a great BJ but only seems to prefer sex in mish/doesn't like doggy style.
Alma(18y):found in front of hotel cascades. Bartered for BJ and sex sin ropa for only $20; what a bargain! I think she liked my body and gave me a sweet deal. Anyways, wild sex with multiple positions/I even stood up with her on the bed and bounced her/lots of fun. Had to go for another 20 minutes for $20.
Ana(~20y, mexico city): stands near hotel eduardo. Had her before and I insisted that we use hotel cascades; hotel eduardo is a real shithole. Paid $50 for 45 minutes sex sin ropa with multiple positions. Ana's got great shapely a-size tits and nice legs. Has a pleasant fun personality as well.
Called it a night after three SGs. Each session with hotel was about $45 to $60(on the high end). Considering the CGs start at $72 total, this is good value. I'm back in two weeks.
Jay
[QUOTE=Jay Love] Each session with hotel was about $45 to $60(on the high end). Considering the CGs start at $72 total, this is good value. [/QUOTE]
Thanks for the report Jay. Sounds like you got a lot of bang for the buck. Yes, best not get hooked on a club girl unless you can afford her otherwise you will end up short on play money for a few others.
[QUOTE=Jay Love]Flor(~20y, veracruz): la valentina hotel. Flor has become a regular for me now. I pay her $40 for BJ and sex sin ropa with multiple positions. She's gives a great BJ but only seems to prefer sex in mish/doesn't like doggy style.
[/QUOTE]Nice girl :) Fucked her like 6 times in 2004-2006. Guess another session this year won't hurt.
Rumors are, Mari from Puebla @ Cascadas is back.
[QUOTE=Jay Love]Considering the CGs start at $72 total, this is good value. I'm back in two weeks.
Jay[/QUOTE]Negotiate more! :-) $50/session for CGs is well within everybody's reach. That assumes you buy a drink or two. If not, then never mind. By the same token, $70 - $90 full hours aren't all that difficult to find, either.
PP
I think this is my first negative report I have ever made. Hope you can learn with my experience. It was a few hours ago that I visited my girlfriend in TJ. She was indispose so after dinner and some conversation I left her home and with nothing to do I cruised the SW zone. Right at the end of Constitucion on the left (West side) about 20 feet from the corner there was a long hair 5'8" (with 6" heels) slim, good looking girl that cough my eye. She was a 7, well I was horny. Without much negotiation she accepted $20. + $5.00 for the room. I told her no clothe she agreed. I did not mentioned BJ, nor positions, maybe my mistake (oh well). Once in the room I asked her name. She is Celeste from Puebla. She took her clothe in two quick moves and ask to be paid. After the money exchanged hands she place the condom in Mr. Horney and laid like a dead fish. I ask for the require BJ with the "that is extra" std answer (my mistake for not asking first). I told her to get on all fours and you guess it "that is extra"... I told her this is not working and ask for the money back.. ( I knew the answer, just trying to get her more accommodating but no success). Knowing that there was not too much leverage at that point I just got on top finished the deed and promised myself to at least expose the poor performer.
To summarized:
Looks - 7
attitude - 1
Performance - 1
Deceiving skills - 10
overall experience - 1
only redeeming feature - largest nipples I have seen
Hope this can be of help to you.
Good luck.....
[quote=coquí]she took her clothe in two quick moves and ask to be paid. after the money exchanged hands she place the condom in mr. horney and laid like a dead fish.[/quote]nothing personal, mr. c. this is just a pet peeve of mine. nobody should ever pay up front. this ain't the us of a. you lose all of your leverage at that point, and then your good time is compeletely dependent upon her mood.
of course, guys who take advantage and try to rip off the girls deserve whatever bad things happen to them. i'm no expert, but i suspect that some seriously bad things could happen to guys like that in tj.
pp
[QUOTE=Coquí]I think this is my first negative report I have ever made. Hope you can learn with my experience. It was a few hours ago that I visited my girlfriend in TJ. She was indispose so after dinner and some conversation I left her home and with nothing to do I cruised the SW zone. Right at the end of Constitucion on the left (West side) about 20 feet from the corner there was a long hair 5'8" (with 6" heels) slim, good looking girl that cough my eye. She was a 7, well I was horny. Without much negotiation she accepted $20. + $5.00 for the room. I told her no clothe she agreed. I did not mentioned BJ, nor positions, maybe my mistake (oh well). Once in the room I asked her name. She is Celeste from Puebla. She took her clothe in two quick moves and ask to be paid. After the money exchanged hands she place the condom in Mr. Horney and laid like a dead fish. I ask for the require BJ with the "that is extra" std answer (my mistake for not asking first). I told her to get on all fours and you guess it "that is extra"... I told her this is not working and ask for the money back.. ( I knew the answer, just trying to get her more accommodating but no success). Knowing that there was not too much leverage at that point I just got on top finished the deed and promised myself to at least expose the poor performer.
To summarized:
Looks - 7
attitude - 1
Performance - 1
Deceiving skills - 10
overall experience - 1
only redeeming feature - largest nipples I have seen
Hope this can be of help to you.
Good luck.....[/QUOTE]
This is just my POV, but I find the best looking SW girls have an attitude. It is all about money for them and I guess they are angry because they look so good (so they think) and they have to walk the streets. When I am in the Zona, now I always look for the SW that make eye contact with me and smile. I smile back at them and talk to them in my broken Spanish. If we click in those few minutes, I will take here. If not connection, I walk. The girls I pick may not be 8s or 9s, but I don't care anymore, I want a min-GFE.
Most of the girls I now take are 5s, 6s, or maybe 7s--but the service is a lot better then the girls who think they are too hot to provide any service except the dead fish approach. I had a brown skinned 6 the last time but she was great, no rush, nice and wet, and not extra charge for different positions. However, with these girls, I always talk to them about price for all of her services before I take them so there will be no surprises. I have a few regulars that do when I am in the SW area.
Also, I like to go early in the day so I can get them when they are fresh, but that's just me.
In TJ for the weekend. Walked past Eduardo across from the Miami bar and I see this peach that stands out above the rest. Tall, long blonde hair with red streaks, thin and very light skinned. I walked past and looked and did the eye connect thing then circled around and went up to her and complimented her on her hair. She was somewhat cold but I almost want to say she is a tad shy. Anyways, it was 400 pesos for sex, BJ, sin ropa and multiple positions. Room was 30 pesos. No sink etc. Anyways, she takes off her clothes and I was like humna humna humna. Stellar body. Nice little perky tits. She almost could pass for a freshmen in college from the midwest. No kissing but whatever. BJ was about a 7. Tried to put her legs on my shoulders etc. But she wasn't going there. She just put her knees up. No problemo there. Anyways, I would grab her again but there are so many others I need to spread the cheer. BTW, Adelitas is packed but it seems they must be running a sale on Silicon. Seems to be the latest craze.
I agree with both of you Mr. P & Mr. U. I was caught with my guard down and it was 100% my fault. To top things up the fact that I speak Spanish and miscommunication was not an issue, I failed to follow the basic rules of engagement prior to the deed. It has been some time since I visited the Zone and all my regulars were not there. Maybe retired.... Although this "Lady" was really my worst experience and probably the only bad one I have had with SW in TJ. I just want to warn you gentlemen.
Good luck and happy hunting’s......
Coquí
[QUOTE=Coquí]I think this is my first negative report I have ever made. Hope you can learn with my experience. [/QUOTE]
Sorry I didn't warn you guys abotu Celeste from Puebla. I went with her 1 time about 10 years ago. She was a dead fish with upsells. She left TJ about 4 or 5 years ago then recently returned. Very pretty face, knows how to stuff a bra but as I recall they were soft and mushy 10 yrs ago.
Best walk on by and let her snag her 1 and out customers. I doubt she gets any gringo repeats.
[QUOTE=Loverio]In TJ for the weekend. Walked past Eduardo across from the Miami bar and I see this peach that stands out above the rest. Tall, long blonde hair with red streaks, thin and very light skinned. I walked past and looked and did the eye connect thing then circled around and went up to her and complimented her on her hair. She was somewhat cold but I almost want to say she is a tad shy. Anyways, it was 400 pesos for sex, BJ, sin ropa and multiple positions. Room was 30 pesos. No sink etc. Anyways, she takes off her clothes and I was like humna humna humna. Stellar body. Nice little perky tits. She almost could pass for a freshmen in college from the midwest. No kissing but whatever. BJ was about a 7. Tried to put her legs on my shoulders etc. But she wasn't going there. She just put her knees up. No problemo there. Anyways, I would grab her again but there are so many others I need to spread the cheer. BTW, Adelitas is packed but it seems they must be running a sale on Silicon. Seems to be the latest craze.[/QUOTE]
Yes indeed, Paola is a cute one but also getting colder the longer she works. I've been humping her for almost two years now and she went from allowing light kissing of her chichis to nada--don't even kiss her neck or arm and a real clock watcher. BTW--she normally does cbj, sin la ropa and positions for three hundred pesos. Maybe she gives you thirty minutes for four hundred?
[QUOTE=Supermonger2]Yes indeed, Paola is a cute one but also getting colder the longer she works. I've been humping her for almost two years now and she went from allowing light kissing of her chichis to nada--don't even kiss her neck or arm and a real clock watcher. BTW--she normally does cbj, sin la ropa and positions for three hundred pesos. Maybe she gives you thirty minutes for four hundred?[/QUOTE]I was in there for like 25 minutes maybe a few longer. I do recall the kiss on the neck thing. Can't even imagine this girl a few years ago and fresher. Well, actually I can.
Went to TJ last Tuesday with a friend, and after a couple lengthy sessions with a HK gal, we ended up renting a room for the night at Cascadas where I slept like a baby.
The next morning I roamed around la zona as the morning gals lined up and the bars closed for washing. I had breakfast at the restaurant adjacent to AB. You gotta love it when you order coffee and you get hot water and a syrup dispenser that dribbles out Sanka instant, and your bacon and eggs is scrambled eggs with chopped hot dogs mixed in.
Later when my friend wanted to eat I took him there and couple of AB gals came in before their shift as he ate and I drank another cup of classic coffee. We smiled and flirted with each other as they kept pulling down their tight skirts that kept riding up their thighs.
AB was now open and my friend went there, I went to the alley, which had more girls by then. In front of HK was Gabrielle de Vera Cruz. She is a sweet thing with natural full breasts, cute face and nice body. While talking to her, a guy walks buy and encourages me to go for it, assuring me it won’t be a disappointment. He was right. She was enthusiastic and concerned that I enjoyed myself, which I did.
Headed down to TJ Friday evening for some fun. The prior day I tried to get some action on El Cajon Blvd. in San Diego but I couldn't get a girl to get in my car b/c I look like I could be a cop... it kind of stinks. Anyways, back to TJ, I got there around 7 and did a stroll down the alley. I typically look for the hottest and most petite girls around but my last 2 trips down there I have had bad experiences with the girls trying to upsell and not delivering on what was agreed upon. This trip I told myself to look for a girl that appears to have a positive attitude on the street instead of the pissed off looking "perfect 10's".
Found Isabella standing in front of the building on the other side of the road of El Doratos. She was 23 y/o, had a great personality and a great smile. We agreed on $25 for a bj/hj sin ropa with free roaming of my hands. This girl gave an amazing bj and kept eye contact throughout which was a really big turn on. I tend to take a while to finish so after 10 minutes of the bj I had her start the hj... again, she really got into it and kept up the eye contact with a big smile on her face. She let me play with her pussy and tits all that I wanted, she really got wet when I was rubbing on her clit and really seemed to enjoy it. She never once asked if I was close to finishing and never once rushed me. She is by far the best girl I've had down in TJ and I will look for her on my next trip. If you come across her, treat her with respect and she will do the same.
All in all I give her:
looks - 8
attitude - 10
skill- 9.5
An overall "10" when talking about an alley girl.
Finally got to try the pork taco's at the stand next to the one with clams, they were amazing!!
Viva Mexico!!
Went to TJ this past weekend. I got there around 11:45 am on Sat. I stopped at the Hong Kong bar (the best bar in TJ) first to get a hard on ($1 to feel pussies is a great deal), then I went out to see the street girls.
I did not see any of my regular street girls so I had to try some new ones. I was surprised that all of the girls I approached agreed to my $25 offer for BJ, sex, cloths off, and doggie. I was expecting a counter offer of $30, $35, or $40. $30 is the max I will pay for a street girl. Of the 4 girls I had at $25 each, I had only one tried to softly up sell me in the room. I told her nicely but firmly she agreed to $25 for full service. She performed ok.
Of the 4, only 2 were GFE, which I will make my regulars in the future. One older lady I found on Constitucion was a real sweetheart. She was in her 40's but still had a nice white skinned body and a nice face. I guess this is not her regular line of work because I never have seen her in the Zona before (I have been going to the Zona for about 5 years).
She gave me a long BJ and kissing and sucking my balls. I also made sure she saw me wash my hands so I could touch her pussy. Her pussy was already wet with NO KY added! Great sex and I still think about her pink nipple tits. All for $25, what a deal. I will be back in two weeks and I will look for her again. It seems like she really liked the sex!
She told me her children were all grown. Wow, what would her grown children think if they knew I was fucking their mom (along with a great BJ) for $25.
If you saw her walking down the street in L.A., you would never think she sells her pussy.
When I was walking on Articulo 123, I was approached by a girl carrying a dog in a box. The girl did not have any shoes on and she was about 23, however she had a nice looking face and body. She tried to talk to me and started to follow me asking me where was I going. I felt the girl was maybe crazy so I told the girl I was going to meet my wife. She said, ok and told me to have a good day. I am sure I could have banged her, but something was not right with her. Caution was the best way to go in this situation.
So sexy and perfect body but cold as ice, just like the others described. No kissing tits, $5 extra for doggie. She is so cute, but I still could not finish but found another much better one who was good. I took a couple of pictures of Paola from behind and the side but she was not into being photographed. Too bad as she is gorgeous.
[QUOTE=Undercoverh] If you saw her walking down the street in L.A., you would never think she sells her pussy.[/QUOTE]
You must not live in L.A. (LOL) In one way or another I think they all do here. It's probably because I'm tainted TJ style.
Hello, fellow mongers.
This is a little, late. But I didnt have access to a computer since I've been working 12 hour days, to replenish my TJ fund.
I was down there on Sunday evening, got there around 6:30ish. It was very slow. I made my usual stop at the Hong Kong bar, had my two beers and walked around the bar to check out the action at both stages, decided to sit at the main stage downstairs, I enjoyed the show, tipping the good looking dancers. The selection was not as good as on Friday and Saturday night. But there were a couple of girls with good potential. I gave several tips to this slim dark haired girl that at the end of the stage dance sat with me at a table, I dont remember her name just that she let me play with her pussy all the time she was sitting with me and she would playfully stroke my manhood, it was all getting really nice and hot, i had her moaning and I was ready to take her upstairs, but her sister works there too and she came over to sit with us and ruinned everything by trying to upsell her sister and her, she was trying to convince me to take them both for a dance at $20 each, I said no, she then asked me if I wanted a blow job from both, it would be $40 each, I said I dont care for a blow job, I'm looking for full sex. She said it would be $60 each for 30 mins. I declined all her offers and she took her sister by the hand and left. I had already spent about $20 bucks in drinks and was horny as hell. So I decided to go for a bargain outside and picked up Gaby, she is the short oriental looking hottie with big natural boobs that stands by the entrance of Hong Kong. We didnt talk price till we got to the room since I've been with her before. I decided to go for the $40 all inclusive fully nude + a porno on the tv special. And guys I do not regret it, we started playing around and talking while getting each other undressed. Once both naked she sat me on the bed and was getting the rubber on while with one hand I was enjoying her wet pussy, the other was jumping from tit to tit enjoying how soft and natural they felt. She gave me a cbj, and gave me full access to her tities, I got so hard it hurt and she knew, with out saying a word she pushed me gently on the bed to lay down on my back and she mounted me cowgirl style, I sat up and started licking her tits and pressed my face on them, they felt so good, I laid back down to enjoy the view, she is this beautiful olive cinammon skin color and has tan lines, that make her look like the girls in those Mike in Brazil movies. She laid down and we did it mish, I could not stop looking in her eyes, and she was not shy and just smiled. I had to finish doggy and while on that position I never let go of her tits.
It was sooo gooood and when reality hit me accross the border on the way home I asked my self, being as cheap (or frugal) as I am how much I had spent... I realized it was less than $100 not including gas.
I got paid again today so am going this weekend. The women in TJ are like a drug the more you have the more you want, I havent been able to stop thinking about my little Gaby.
See ya'll and take care!
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I just wanted to point out that it does seem to be true that if you see a girl repeatedly they seem to lighten up and the service does get better.
It’s been about a month since I saw her last, but I had been repeating with this beauty that stands a little before Hong Kong. She always wears short little school girl skirts and has long black hair. Her name is Stella, and she is such a cutie that I did not care that she was a little cold and mechanical in the room, but even when I saw her again the next day and she remembered me, she was 10x more friendly and seemed much more comfortable in the room. Now after the half dozen times or so that we have met it is almost a gfe. I gotta get down there again before she forgets what I look like.
Just a quick aside, while talking to her I told her that she was so pretty why didn’t she work at Adelita? And funny enough she said that she will be in December. She told me that some of the alley girls can rotate into Adelita after they do some time in the alley.
Not sure how this subject got into the street walker topic but.....
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Does anybody know of a connection in tijuana that can get you any and everything you want. I mean any and everything-for the right price- without having to search for it?
Owl: Paola's body is to die for regardless of hair color. Her skin is light enough that she looked good as a Blonde, but the more mestiza chicas look ridiculous trying to dye their hair blond.
Before you ask questions like this, you should read, what some of the other fellow punters have to say.
There is great advice and should answer any question, you should pay attention to the fellows who have a few post.
There are a few rules to follow to have a good time, and you can also get in trouble with local policia by behaving like a newbie and do something stupid which winds you up in the shithole they call a jail.
Happy hunting
[QUOTE=Hornygeorge]Owl: Paola's body is to die for regardless of hair color.[/QUOTE]
I agree but she has the facial structure of a blond some how. I think she stood out much easier especially at night as a blond and hope she changes back. On the other hand I've not really got up close to see if she appears sexier with the jet black look.
[QUOTE=D Cooper76]I just wanted to point out that it does seem to be true that if you see a girl repeatedly they seem to lighten up and the service does get better.
It’s been about a month since I saw her last, but I had been repeating with this beauty that stands a little before Hong Kong. She always wears short little school girl skirts and has long black hair. Her name is Stella, and she is such a cutie that I did not care that she was a little cold and mechanical in the room, but even when I saw her again the next day and she remembered me, she was 10x more friendly and seemed much more comfortable in the room. Now after the half dozen times or so that we have met it is almost a gfe. I gotta get down there again before she forgets what I look like.
Just a quick aside, while talking to her I told her that she was so pretty why didn’t she work at Adelita? And funny enough she said that she will be in December. She told me that some of the alley girls can rotate into Adelita after they do some time in the alley.[/QUOTE]
Based on my 5 years of experience in the Zona Norte area (alley area and Hong Kong club), I agree with your statement. Generally speaking, most girls who have repeat business will tend to treat that customer good or even have a GFE. They understand that repeat customers are a sure thing for the cash. If you are a nice guy--and if they like you, it is even better. This is why I always look for my regulars in the alley.
Also, I find that the best GFE is with the non-pros, the girls that come there on the weekend to pick-up extra cash for their family/babies. Since I go to TJ so often, I can always spot a new girl that I have not seen there before or often. If she is a nice girl when I talk to her and her price is under $30 for full service (e.g., cloths off, BJ, sex, and doggie), I will give her a try. If she is a GFE, I will be her repeat customer and the service gets better.
To me, a GFE experience includes:
1.
A street girl that will let me kiss her IF I want (I carry a toothbrush and a small tube of toothpaste so I am always fresh),
2.
Touch her pussy with no restrictions (I let her see that I have washed my hands first and I do NOT hard finger fuck them, I touch their pussy softly and put my finger just a little bit inside their pussy),
3.
IF, I want, let me suck/kiss her tits with no restrictions,
4.
Never tell me to hurry up (for $25, I assume I have at least 25 minutes with them in the room),
5.
They never try to get more money out of me (I always give them the $25 before we undress so they do not have to worry about getting paid, I have never had a problem with this).
6.
And most important, they have a good attitude and act like they enjoy the fuck somewhat. I know they bang for a living and I do not expect them act like they love me, buy show some friendly participation and enjoyment.
Based on my experience, if the girl feels I am a clean guy, they will let me do more with them (e.g., touch pussy, kiss, etc).
I always agree on full service price with her before we go to the hotel for $30 or less. $25 is the average I pay. I find that the average looking girls give the best GFE, the 10's usually have a bad attitude and it is all about money with them.
I will be there this weekend to look for one of my regulars I have been thinking about all week!
Guys,
I'm planning my first trip to TJ and was wondering if the girls on the street are any less safe with regard to STDs than those in the clubs? I know after reading Brockton's guide that girls in the clubs are required to get periodic medical examinations. Is this true of the girls that work the streets as well?
The Boob
Undercoverh:
You make some great points. Also, I never realized that there were 'non-pros' who just work on the weekend for extra cash. It makes sense that they might have a less hardened attitude and be more likely to give a GFE if you are a nice guy and clean. I will have to pay more attention to who I notice in the alley on the weekdays vice the weekends and see if I can visit one of the weekend warriors.
Went to TJ this past weekend and I wanted to try something different. I had recall seeing ladies in their late 50's to early 60's selling their pussies on Ninos Heroes (which is the street directly East of the alley). To get to this street, walk out of the Hong Kong club and turn right. The first street you come to is Ninos Heroes, at this street turn left and walk until you come to the next block which is Articulo 123.
During your walk along this street just before you get to Articulo 123, you will sometimes see grannies selling their pussies. This past weekend I saw one that was in her late 50's maybe 60. She was 5 ft tall and and slender. She smiled at me and I smiled back. I stopped a few feet away from her, I wanted to make sure she was selling (I did not want some Mexican running up to me and try to beat the crap out of me for making passes at his grandmother). She looked at me again and pointed to the rooms. I walked over we talked a little in Spanish.
I felt a little funny asking a grandmother for sex, but oh well. I offered $20 for cloths off, BJ, sex, and doggie ($20 was the max I was going to pay for a lady in her 50's), I was going to offer $15, but she was nice and smiled alot, so I offered the $20. Granny quickly agreed and off to the room we went ($3 for the room).
She took off her cloths and it was fun to see something different, I played with her tits and pussy while she gave me an ok BJ. I also had her open her legs wide so I could see that old pussy, I was surprised to see that she was a little wet (with a few gray hairs), which gave me a super hard-on. I got on top of her and her pussy was small and felt very nice (we did NOT use any KY). Her body was small so I did not want to bang her hard (or brake some of her bones : - ).
Overall, I would say the fuck was different and fun and for $20, I would do it again. Also, granny was nice (as most grannies are) and I would also bang her again, next time I want her to give me a better BJ (maybe she is so old, she has forgotten how). Also, I did not do doggie with her because I was enjoying the sex when I was on top of her. Next time, doggie with granny is a must.
In the past, on this street, sometimes, the old women there are not something I would want to bang, this time, I found a granny that was fuckable.
P.S. After I left the hotel, I walked to the conner of Ninos Heroes and Articulo 123, I saw a new granny that was dressed nice, with stockings and high heels and maybe 5'7" with nice tits (for a granny), she was maybe 55. If I had seen her first, I would of banged her. After that, I left TJ, but since that time, I have been thinking about granny pussy all day and night. I think I am hooked on granny pussies ; - }
[QUOTE=Booby Boob]Guys,
I'm planning my first trip to TJ and was wondering if the girls on the street are any less safe with regard to STDs than those in the clubs?[/QUOTE]
Any girls working the sex trade are required to register and get a medical card with regular examinations and testing. There is no difference in requirements between bar girls and street girls. Street girls may try to work without one, but some bars may be lax about enforcing the rules as well. It's very common for a bar to be temporarily closed for breaking the rules and it's very common to see street girls rounded up for not having their medical cards.
Don't be shy about asking to see their card. But just as well don't fool yourself about the inherent risks of what you are doing. Have fun and be safe.
[QUOTE=Undercoverh]I have been thinking about granny pussy all day and night. I think I am hooked on granny pussies ; - }[/QUOTE]I don't even what to say but you made me laugh.
[QUOTE=Undercoverh]Went to TJ this past weekend and I wanted to try something different. I had recall seeing ladies in their late 50's to early 60's selling their pussies on Ninos Heroes (which is the street directly East of the alley). To get to this street, walk out of the Hong Kong club and turn right. The first street you come to is Ninos Heroes, at this street turn left and walk until you come to the next block which is Articulo 123...
Overall, I would say the fuck was different and fun and for $20, I would do it again. Also, granny was nice (as most grannies are) and I would also bang her again, next time I want her to give me a better BJ (maybe she is so old, she has forgotten how). Also, I did not do doggie with her because I was enjoying the sex when I was on top of her. Next time, doggie with granny is a must.
In the past, on this street, sometimes, the old women there are not something I would want to bang, this time, I found a granny that was fuckable.[/QUOTE]
I found this anecdote to be quite amusing. Now I've seen it all. LOL. No plans to do an older granny, so I'll have to live vicariously through you "undercoverh". LMAO.
I agree with all of your comments about my last post regarding granny sex, ya it's kinky and somewhat funny. But, I am sure a few guys out there will be planning a trip to "Granny Blvd." on their next trip to Zona Norte after reading my post. Hay, grannies need love too! : - )
Since I have had all types of women (lots of 10s and 9s--ok, I had to pay for them, but I still had them), sizes and nationalities from Central America to Southeast Asian (Bangkok Massage Parlors are my #1 choice) and everywhere in between, I was in the mood for something different that day and good old granny was the right fit (in more ways then one).
In all my years, I have never did a granny, so I gave it a try. I must say, when I paid the $3 to the hotel guy, he did look at me with a funny look on his face after he saw little granny standing next to me. <: - 0 But just think, I did the hands on investigation and reported back to you, the viewers. Just try getting this type of reporting on KNBC channel 4 or any of your local news stations! ;-}
P.S. The great thing about doing a granny is they never tell you to hurry up, because they are too old to remember what time it is!
I'm 32 and bang grannies on the regular! I get super strong showing them what a "young buck" does and helping them remember their younger years.
I must admit 'though, since I've been banging 18 - 25 years at will in Latin America, grannies don't turn me on right now. Maybe when I return to the USA I'll start banging them again. But some of my fondest memories are with grannies!
[QUOTE=Undercoverh]During your walk along this street just before you get to Articulo 123, you will sometimes see grannies selling their pussies. This past weekend I saw one that was in her late 50's maybe 60. She was 5 ft tall and and slender. She smiled at me and I smiled back. I stopped a few feet away from her, I wanted to make sure she was selling (I did not want some Mexican running up to me and try to beat the crap out of me for making passes at his grandmother). She looked at me again and pointed to the rooms. I walked over we talked a little in Spanish.[/QUOTE]Undercoverh,
I'm totally with you on granny action and was very excited to read your report. Can't beat more love and more experience at lower cost. Makes you feel like you're in the special club for older adults. I'm in the midst of planning my first TJ trip and was planning on playing it safe by sticking to the Zona Norte bars, but I may have to take a stroll by Granny Blvd. Think I could still get a GILF even though my Spanish is non-existent?
The Boob
[QUOTE=Meat Loaf]I'm 32 and bang grannies on the regular! I get super strong showing them what a "young buck" does and helping them remember their younger years.
I must admit 'though, since I've been banging 18 - 25 years at will in Latin America, grannies don't turn me on right now. Maybe when I return to the USA I'll start banging them again. But some of my fondest memories are with grannies![/QUOTE]
He He.....
Listen, if these grannies know anything, they know how stiff a young buck can get. Better still, they probably had no trouble handling the action so don't get too far ahead of yourself!
Grannies have been screwing young bucks ever since they were young does. They got older, but for many of them the clients never did. The proof is in the postings.
Give 'em respect and don't be shy. If you find one in decent shape she is sure to be great in the sack. Besides, 50 AIN'T old. It's prime time. It's the "new 30." Believe it.
Country John
[QUOTE=Country John]Besides, 50 AIN'T old. It's prime time. It's the "new 30." Believe it.
Country John[/QUOTE]Man you must be OLD, Country John! *lol*
Wow, thanks Meat Loaf, Booby Boob, and Country John for the support on this subject. When I posted my info on Grannies several days ago and got a somewhat negative response, I thought maybe I was the only guy that appreciated an older women who is kind, sweet, and knows how to be nice to a man, all for around $15 to $20 and $3 for the room.
The granny I was with last time was shy, sweet, and treated me really nice, and the sex was enjoyable. For an older women, her pussy got nicely wet and she NEVER used any KY. She was also clean and dressed decent (considering she was a poor women). She let me suck her little tits (which were clean) and lightly touch her pussy. Again, all of this for $20.
Also, just before we left the room, she gave me a hug and said thanks, she really appreciated the time we spent together. I got the feeling she did not do the sex for money trade often and only to help pay the food/rent bill. She told me she had two grown sons she had not seen in a long time. Now how many younger women treat the customers as nice for so little money.
This was my first experience with a granny so maybe I was lucky with a nice one. I must admit, sometimes over the past years, I have see some grannies there that look like they live on the street and you or I would not want to touch them, much less bang them. Then, sometimes I see one or two I would do. I guess the key is TO BE VERY, VERY SELECTIVE!!!
Since granny accepted my offer of $20 for sex so quickly for doggie (which I did not do because I enjoyed the regular sex with her), BJ (which was ok) and cloths off, maybe I should have started the opening bid At $15. Next time, when I see a different granny I like, I will start the opening bid at $15 for full service and see will she accept (with the max I would pay being $20). However, if I see the granny I had from last time, I will be happy to give her $20 with no bidding.
Ya, I have had lots of women that are young and hot--but most of the time the service is average or below, they have a bad attitude, and all they want is their money so they can go off to the next customer.
It is nice sometimes to enjoy the company of an older women who really appreciates being with me and enjoys the sex. She knows that it is not everyday she will have a young guy pay attention to her and treat her nice. Most of her customers will be old drunk Mexicans that have not seen a bath in several days and maybe only give her $10. Thus, when she spends time with me, she really appreciates being with me and she shows it.
Well, the next time I am in TJ, I will do my regular stop at the HK club to feel some pussies and include a walk down "Granny Blvd" and share my adventures.
[QUOTE=Booby Boob]Undercoverh,
I'm totally with you on granny action and was very excited to read your report. Can't beat more love and more experience at lower cost. Makes you feel like you're in the special club for older adults. I'm in the midst of planning my first TJ trip and was planning on playing it safe by sticking to the Zona Norte bars, but I may have to take a stroll by Granny Blvd. Think I could still get a GILF even though my Spanish is non-existent?
The Boob[/QUOTE]
Not knowing Spanish is no problem. When I see a granny or street girl I like, I simply smile and say hello to them in Spanish (Ola) and I ask them how are they doing (Como esta). They usually say very good as a reply in Spanish and then I ask them do they speak English (ablo Inglish). Most of the time they say no.
Then I smile some more (to show them I am a nice guy) and I hold up a little yellow sticky with an amount already written on it say $20 (I kept several little papers with the amounts of $15, $20, $25, and $30 in my pocket). I show them the little paper I am willing to pay then I say sucky, fucky, doggie, (this is standard street slang lingo in Zona Norte and girls know exactly what you are talking about even if the speak no English) and then point to them taking off their cloths. If they say "se," we have a deal. If they want more money then I take out the next little sticky, say $25, and start to restate my requirements at the higher price of $25, etc.
$30 is the max I will pay. The average I pay is $25 for full service. Also, most girls accept my offer of $25. If not, no problem, I go to the next one I like. The great thing about TJ is that if one girl will not do it for your price, there is another girl that will. Zona Norte is a "buyers market."
I find I get the best GFE from street girls that smile a lot, are happy, are non-pros, and are average looking. I like the street girls or grannies that smile at me and really seem like they are interested. If they ask for a high price (e.g., $40), I know all they care about is the money. If they accept my reasonable offer of $25 (more money then they could make in 1 day working at a regular job in Mexico), this is an indication I could have a GFE.
[QUOTE=Apache]Man you must be OLD, Country John! *lol*[/QUOTE]
You're only as old as you feel. Today I feel like I'm 150.
We hooked up once didn't we? I don't remember. But I think you were MUCH OLDER than I. Oh yeah, it was at the Fiesta last summer in La Tropa right? I'll be 52 in the summer.
Back to older women, my ex (w-2) was not bad. The last time I fucked her (about 3 years ago) she had a decent bod at 50. So the older ladies can have some surprises under the ropa. There is nothing wrong with older bush.
The young girls have the advantage because they are some sort of fantasy for us old farts. I never fantasize over bad sex. Them young girls in those skoolgirl outfits and all that, they just don't have the experience of the older girls. So when your eyes are rolling back because you are boinking something young and tight like the little girl next door, you might be buying just that -the image, and at the same time getting short changed on the session.
It's all good.....
Be safe and be nice
Country John
[QUOTE=Country John]You're only as old as you feel. Today I feel like I'm 150.
We hooked up once didn't we? I don't remember. But I think you were MUCH OLDER than I. Oh yeah, it was at the Fiesta last summer in La Tropa right? I'll be 52 in the summer.
Back to older women, my ex (w-2) was not bad. The last time I fucked her (about 3 years ago) she had a decent bod at 50. So the older ladies can have some surprises under the ropa. There is nothing wrong with older bush.
The young girls have the advantage because they are some sort of fantasy for us old farts. I never fantasize over bad sex. Them young girls in those skoolgirl outfits and all that, they just don't have the experience of the older girls. So when your eyes are rolling back because you are boinking something young and tight like the little girl next door, you might be buying just that -the image, and at the same time getting short changed on the session.
It's all good.....
Be safe and be nice,
Country John[/QUOTE]I hear what you're saying!
I've never really been into 18, 19, or even 20 year-old girls, but I find myself fuckin' them all the time 'cause they're available. It's nothing special for me right now. I get charged on old broads, but they're not as available as the young one since I live in America Latina.
I've witnessed and I wonder if I'll be in your fantasy shoes in 20 years drooling for a young thing? Yeah, I'm sure: By that time I'll be so tired of the "boyfriend / girlfriend, " or worse: husband / wife" fairytale that I'll want some reality.
I do agree that they're buying the fantasy. At my stage in the life, I'm buying the quantity!
[QUOTE=Country John]We hooked up once didn't we? I don't remember.[/QUOTE]
Alzheimers rears it's ugly head *lol*
[QUOTE=Country John]I think you were MUCH OLDER than I.[/QUOTE]I'm only 27, just lived a hard life.
See you at the fiesta tomorrow, CJ!
I am not sure where this is. I followed the directions when I was in TJ on Thursday but saw no grannies. I walked out of Hong Kong, made a left and then walked to the corner. That street was Ninoes Heroes. I then made a right on it and walked up. Should I go on past the light?
And are grannies out there during the daytime, too?
thanks,
TJ
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]I am not sure where this is. I followed the directions when I was in TJ on Thursday but saw no grannies. I walked out of Hong Kong, made a left and then walked to the corner. That street was Ninoes Heroes. I then made a right on it and walked up. Should I go on past the light?
And are grannies out there during the daytime, too?
thanks,
TJ[/QUOTE]
You should have made a right, not a left, when exiting Hong Kong. Then walk up Niños Héroes. There's a sex/porn shop on Articulo 123, and around that sex shop there are some *ahem* grannies. I've even seen one or two dressed up in the schoolgirl outfits. *shudders*
I would assume the grannies are only out during the day. They probably go to bed by 7:30.
OKAY. Now I know exactly where you all mean. Is that sex shop still open by the way?
I HAVE seen the grannies but never really thought of partaking until now. Like others, for whatever reason, it seemed they were not up for grabs. But why not?
I am going to TJ again on Tuesday and will check things out.
TJ
Just a word of caution for any newbies reading. The area of Niños Héroes and Articulo 123 isn't safe late night. It's not a problem during the day and early evening.
Have fun and be safe.
Mike
I've been enjoying the granny discussion! I've seen a few, but they didn't look do-able. I'll look harder! I, too, come for the fun, not the trophies. So, my current favoritas are both around 40. What they lack in looks they certainly make up in performance. :-)
Now, speaking of older gals, does anybody know anything about a bar with the name of Estrella, or something like that? It's up off of La Revu somewhere. Last year, after a TLN, my chica took me to her favorite mariscos/ceviche place, which I couldn't find it again on a bet (partly due to the hangover). While strolling back we walked by the front of the place. She pointed it out.
"You know Chicago Club?" (She was working there at the time)
"Yes"
"This is the same, but for the ladies."
"Bullsh*t."
"No, es verdad. Men come in and wait. The ladies come in and choose the men."
... A few minutes of pondering by yours truly ...
"Wow. What kind of ladies come here to pick up men?"
"Oh, usually the very old, very fat or ugly."
"Ewwww!"
"Well, it's the same for the ladies at Chicago Club. Same thing."
I hadn't thought of it that way... I don't think I'm THAT old or THAT fat! :-)
I went in, but it was around noon, the place hadn't been open too long, and there was only one local guy at the bar, but he was all duded up in his fancy vaquero outfit, tight jeans, hat, etc. About 50-ish, maybe a bit more.
So, anybody every hear of the place? Anybody wanna prove their studliness? Maybe this would be a good way to pick up a few pesos?? =:-0
PP
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]I am not sure where this is. I followed the directions when I was in TJ on Thursday but saw no grannies. I walked out of Hong Kong, made a left and then walked to the corner. That street was Ninoes Heroes. I then made a right on it and walked up. Should I go on past the light?
And are grannies out there during the daytime, too?
thanks,
TJ[/QUOTE]
I checked the directions I provided on my post regarding directions and they are correct. However, sorry, maybe I should have given clearer directions. You are on the right sitreet, Ninoes Heroes, but you must go to the left. For example, when you walk out of the HK club, walk to your right which is H.N., then walk to your left. You know you are walking in the correct direction because there are people selling old watches, cloths, etc on the sidewalk.
Walk along this street for about a block. While you are walking, towards the end of the block, this is were you will encounter the grannies.
This past Saturday, I was in TJ. However, I get to the Zona around 11:30 a.m. and I leave around 3:30 pm. At 11:30 am, I check the granny scene and no grannies. I went to the HK club, felts some pussies, talked the the famous Salma and finger fucked a few times, then went back out the Granny Blvd which was about 12:30 pm. Saw one old and ugly granny, she looked at me but no way in hell I was going to do her.
Walked the end of the end of the block, saw a lady who is about 50 but I know her from before. She offers a low price or will agree on a low price but then up the price in the room. She stands at the corner near the traffic light.
She is a real waste of time.
Went back to HK club, saw a young 21 girl on the way. She reminded me of a L.A. Chica that is on the rough side, tall, big body, but not fat, nice ass and tits. She was standing on H.N. in a spot where no other girls were standing. She look like she could kick your ass if she had to. However, when I walked by, she gave me a nice smile (I am a sucker for girls with nice friendly smiles). I talked to her awhile (the usually BS, hello, your name, ya--it's cold, etc). She offered $20 for sucky and fucky. I told her only if she gives very good sucky, ok, she laughed and said se. I agreed and off to the room we went Good BJ, good sex, and nice true sound effects the deeper I went inside of her, and very nice girl, I will do again next time. Just goes to show you, you cannot judge someone by the way they look.
Now, back to the granny story. I went back the Granny Blvd around 2:00 pm and saw only one granny, but she was standing on H.N. at the corner but she was across the street. I walked over and stood next to her. I smiled and said hello in Spanish. She replied. Hum, I was not sure if she is not selling to me, shy, or really just waiting for someone. I say not selling to me because she is a small women and I am 6 feet tall. A few minutes went by and I knew she had to be selling sex as she was watch the old Mexican guys walk by.
I stood next to her and said hello again and asked how she is doing and this time she smiled. I said, with a nice smile on my face very good sucky, fucky, and pointed to her taking off her cloths and then I showed her my yellow sticky with $15 written on it. She quickly accepted and off to the room we went. She gave me a long and very nice BJ while she sat on the side of the bed and I felt her tits and wet pussy. Then she laid back on the bed with her legs open while I stood on the side of the bed and banged that granny pussy.
Great BJ, nice fuck, all for $15 and $4 for the room.
Since I do not stay late in TJ, I don't know how late they stay out. But being grannies, I would say they do not stay up late! ; - } Also, I have never seen lots of them at one time, maybe 2 to 4 max on Granny Blvd. Also, for the most part, I normally see different grannies each week standing out. It's like they make a few dollars to eat and come back when they run out of money. The one granny I really liked, I have not seen her on Granny Blvd in 3 weeks.
[QUOTE=Mike 123]Just a word of caution for any newbies reading. The area of Niños Héroes and Articulo 123 isn't safe late night. It's not a problem during the day and early evening.
Have fun and be safe.
Mike[/QUOTE]
I agree, but this goes for all of Zona Norte, unless you stick to the alley at night and take a taxi in and a taxi out. During the day, there are lots of cops out and this past weekend they were checking lots of Mexicans and requesting to look at their ID. I am happy to see lots of cops and I have never had any trouble with them during the past 5 years I have been going to the Zona. I stopped going to TJ at night because I simply am safer in the day. Of course, this is just my POV but it works for me.
Now for my disclaimer: I know that when I talk about "Grannies" some guys think of some old sweet lady baking cookies and I walk up and bang the crap out of her while she is trying to grab her medicine for high blood pressure. The word granny makes most of us think of some nice old lady we have know in our life (e.g., mom, grandmother, old auntie, etc.).
True, they are grannies, but they are not our grannies (gee, this sounds bad). But what I mean is, they have made a choice to work the streets because their BS sons, ex-husband, family do not support them. Trust me, these grannies are not working the streets to buy the latest "Bling," they are working the street to eat.Also, I can assure you I treat them better than the drunk Mexicans that try to bang them and then not pay (this happens often, so I always pay granny upfront to set her at easy).
I understand some guys think banging a granny is kinky. But, the truth of the matter is--it is just sex between two consenting adults. When a rich man in his 60's has sex with a women in her 30's or even 20's, nobody calls that kinky, right! So what wrong with the reverse in ages.....nothing!
They are older women looking to survive, so let's all do our part to help them..............plus they give great BJ and their pussies are still wet, and it's only $15!!!! ;-] But seriously, I hope everyone treats these older women nicely and bare in mind they are older women. The two grannies I have had thus far have been very nice ladies, shy, and willing to please.
Again, I'm 32, and have been banging "grannies" or "vets" for about 5 years now. Sometimes it's for money and sometimes I'm their boyfriend. We're both adults. Remember, prostitutes get old too and with all of that career experience wouldn't you want to remain within your profession? Of course you would.
I've had numerous "granny" girlfriends. Some of which had children my age who I would socialize with. These "vets" love a young dick attacking them 2. 5 times per day. And I love it too 'cause they can't get pregnant, so it's stress free!
Finally, if you're banging Latin American "grannies" they may be a "grannie" at age 36. They produce children earlier and more often than Gringos. So, if she's age 50, it's not that big of a deal.
What happens to me is that the dick is so good for these "grannies" that they have a hard time when I move-on to another country or city.
Never having been to TJ, I was wondering where you should go to get a room if you're picking up a street girl. Do you just go into one of the clubs (e. G. HK, Adelitas) or are there a whole bunch of places that will rent out a room for $3-4? How much time do you get at that price?
Thanks,
The Boob
[QUOTE=Booby Boob]Never having been to TJ, I was wondering where you should go to get a room if you're picking up a street girl. Do you just go into one of the clubs (e. G. HK, Adelitas) or are there a whole bunch of places that will rent out a room for $3-4? How much time do you get at that price?
Thanks,
The Boob[/QUOTE]
The first thing you should do is read Brocktons guide. It is a very lengthy but detailed document for the "sportfuckerman."
Trusting that you will do this, then when you take a street girl (assuming you mean the girls posting in the Alley) they will have a hotel that they use for the session. You pay for the room.
How much time? Depends on how much time you take the girl in for. It's usually about 20 minutes, figure $5. for the room.
If you take a street "walker," who does not have a hotel that she posts in front of, you take her to your room if you have one or to the place to the right of Chicago Club (I can never remember the name of the place) - a skank joint to be sure.
Country John
[QUOTE=Country John]If you take a street "walker," who does not have a hotel that she posts in front of, you take her to your room if you have one or to the place to the right of Chicago Club (I can never remember the name of the place) - a skank joint to be sure.
Country John[/QUOTE]
That would be the Monitos. Cheap rooms, last time I was there a year ago lot's of graffiti on the walls, bad vibes but as clean as the average SG hotel. I myself do not take walkers but established street girls for extended time to this shady hotel to cut hotel costs and avoid the dreaded knock.
[QUOTE=Ninguno Especial]That would be the Monitos. Cheap rooms, last time I was there a year ago lot's of graffiti on the walls, bad vibes but as clean as the average SG hotel. I myself do not take walkers but established street girls for extended time to this shady hotel to cut hotel costs and avoid the dreaded knock.[/QUOTE]
Monitos, that's the place. I was actually a regular there believe it or not. The old guy actually sleeps in the office. I used to get coffee there after my sessions, I;d sit for a spell and talk to the guys. Had a lot of laughs. Yeah, the place is skank but not the worst of them.
Country John
I'm on the San Diego Board but have a question for you TJ mongers.
How old was the oldest Granny Sex. I would do someone in their 60's...no problem.
Thanks for the help.
Larry
[QUOTE=LarryS1352]I'm on the San Diego Board but have a question for you TJ mongers.
How old was the oldest Granny Sex. I would do someone in their 60's...no problem.
Thanks for the help.
Larry[/QUOTE]
Let me clear something up.
The term "granny" invokes the image of the hunch-back cane supported 100 year old wrinkle. Nothing could be further from the truth when it comes to bang-able senior girlies of age in the Zona norte.
While you'll find your share of the "old hag types" in the Zona, the older ladies can in some cases look as good as some of the young girls.
Just because a girl is 50 and working, if she has a decent bod then she's most likely a star in the sack. So don't be shy. And don't be prejudiced against them. Some of these women are great gals.
You have to be just as careful with your party hat with the different ages group, that doesn't change. But if you like her and she looks good, then take her.
Tanya the legend who have been around for ages is a fantastic session. If she is not yet 50 then she can slap my face for even suggesting it. Some of you young fellers might think she is "old," but I would guarantee you this: She will be one of your best if not your best session. What a babe in the sack. Wow.
The street girls whothout experience will be nothing more than a fantasy fuck for those of you who like to have sex with young girls in schoolgirl outfits. You might get one or two who know what to do but if take an older gal, rest assured you won't have to tell her what to do.
Country John
[QUOTE=Booby Boob]are there a whole bunch of places that will rent out a room for $3-4? How much time do you get at that price?
Thanks,
The Boob[/QUOTE]
Many of the sg hotels rent their rooms out in 15 minute increments. I think are only 2 $3 hotels left, the Eduardo and the Kumbala. Others charge up to $6.
[QUOTE=Booby Boob]Never having been to TJ, I was wondering where you should go to get a room if you're picking up a street girl. Do you just go into one of the clubs (e. G. HK, Adelitas) or are there a whole bunch of places that will rent out a room for $3-4? How much time do you get at that price?
Thanks,
The Boob[/QUOTE]
Right. Two of the main clubs: CC and AB have hotels adjacent to the them for $12/30minutes. HK girls and SGs you can take to Hotel Cascades for $5.50/20minutes. I've used Hotel Eduardo once($3) but it's a real shithole. The rooms at Eduardo don't have bathrooms and showers either.
[QUOTE=Jay Love] HK girls and SGs you can take to Hotel Cascades for $5.50/20minutes. [/QUOTE]
Unless they've changed their policy the $5.50 rate only applies to sg's and not girls from HK or Miami. Also if you ask at the desk they will tell you that you're paying for 15 minutes and not 20.
The sg's will say it's for twenty minutes but they will be the first out the door if they knock at 15.
[QUOTE=Reinaldo]Many of the sg hotels rent their rooms out in 15 minute increments. I think are only 2 $3 hotels left, the Eduardo and the Kumbala. Others charge up to $6.[/QUOTE]Also, Hotel Venecia is still $3. It's down at the far end of the alley. It's not well known by name since there are no signs. No in room sinks either. Pretty bad.
[QUOTE=Reinaldo]Unless they've changed their policy the $5.50 rate only applies to sg's and not girls from HK or Miami. Also if you ask at the desk they will tell you that you're paying for 15 minutes and not 20.
The sg's will say it's for twenty minutes but they will be the first out the door if they knock at 15.[/QUOTE]Right. Hotel Cascadas charges $5.50 for streetgirls for 15 minutes. They charge $12 for the Miami/Hong Kong girls but time is double also. Unless you have your own room there, then it's still $5.50 and, of course, no time limit. I stayed there a few weeks ago. Ahh!
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[color=green]Correction - [/color]Actually, I think they do charge $12 bucks for HK girls even if you have you have a room. But last time I was there, I took a girl from Honk Kong and they didn't charge us. We went to my room. She had her own room there, as well. They even gave us a towel and condom. I stopped to pay and she said, no. And pulled me over to the elevator. She was the only HK girl that I took last trip. Otherwise, just my streetgirl favorites.
[quote=undercoverh]hum, only one problem, actually, it is a big problem--buying sex in s.d. is illegal! sure, take your chances, maybe you will not get busted and get your picture in the local newspaper. as for me, i cannot afford to get busted for paying for sex in america. if i do, my career, employment, etc., goes out the window and i am fucked! therefore, for guys like me, we will go across to the mexican side where buying sex is legal!!!
i must also add, i am working in the u.s. under an employment contract. when my contract is up, i will go back to southeast asia and i cannot wait. in asia, just like mexico, buying sex is legal, no bs from the cops the way it is in america. getting busted for paying for sex in america is complete bullshit!
maybe someone out there can explain this to me. why is it legal in america to pay for sex when the guy and girl are having sex in a prono movie. ya, the girl in the movie is paid to have sex. but, if you walk down the street and offer that same girl the same amount of money with no movie being made, it is illegal--this is bullshit. i don't know how you american guys put up with this bs for so long.
i had asked my american friend the same question. he said, well, making a prono movie is about freedom of speech and people have a right to............i stopped him and said, "when was the last time you saw a girl in a prono movie making a speech?"
don't get me wrong, i like america, but some things here are wacky. for example, it seems like americans are into watching sex (e.g., tons of prono dvds here, tons of prono sites here, and tons of ads with some type of sex in it to sell the product, tons of tv shows with sexy girls, etc). but, it is not legal to actually have sex here (i.e., pay for it).
and the women here treat the guys like shit and then if you marry them, you have to pay them a lot of marry if you break up.
in asia, it is just the opposite. sure, the are some prono sites, but no where near the number here. and ya, there are prono dvds, but the sales are very low compared to america.
the bottom line is, in asia, we do not need tons of prono dvds, etc., because if we want to see sex, we simply legally pay girls to have sex with us. plus, when we get married, our ladies treat us better because they know if the marriage ends, we do not pay them any money and no child support. the kids stay with the father because he is the one that can support them.
good luck to all the guys that have to put up with the bs sex laws here and the crazy women.[/quote]
the weirdo laws concerning this in the us are one of my pet peeves. if i ask a girl for sex, offer money, and tell her i'm gonna film it and get her to sign a model release, it's 1st amendment free speech. if i just ask and offer money it's solicitation for prostitution. and if i just ask, i get slapped or sued for sexual harrassment. makes absolutely no sense!
the lunacy stems from the supreme court meddling in affairs (like sex, drugs, etc.) in which it had no business. so, when some black-robed p*ssies (to quote joseph wambaugh) make a hare-brained decision, we all have to live with it.
but, just to get picky, i've been all over se asia and, technically, prostitution is illegal in all those countries. it's tolerated everywhere, but still illegal. same with taiwan, japan, china.
pp
the usa isn't really about freedom. the usa is about legislation! with so much legislation being drafted from municipalities, counties, state, and federal authorities the freedom allowed is clearly defined within the legislation. whereas, overseas the amount of legislation is significantly less. remember, the most litigious country in the world is the usa with our 1,000,000 bar members (lawyers) of which 960,000 are white; 20,000 black; and 20,000 are other ethnicities.
secondly, if you think the laws about prostitution are stringent then you may want to read the new legislation, post 1995, concerning "mail order brides" and even "mail order bride" websites who receive members / clients that are usa citizens. furthermore, usa federal legislation follows its citizens overseas as well. hence, if your an ex-pat, but maintain usa citizenship, the laws of the usa federal government are subjected upon you in addition to your host country.
lastly, the new child support laws taking effect around the usa at the state and federal level are confirep001ing occupational licenses and social licenses for as little as $2,500 in arrears. for example, the texas bar association suspends attorney licenses if child support payments are 2-months behind. the department of state is suspending passports for $2,500 in the arrears.
and please remember that child support court (family court) is free for the woman and she has free legal representation (the attorney general and judge) while the father or accused father must represent himself or hire an attorney. in child custody court (family court) both parties must obtain legal representation or represent themselves: child custody court requires the mother to pay-to-play. this is the only equitable area of family court.
usa citizens live this lifestyle of legislation due to the usa's economic opportunities and fear of going overseas. thus, 5% of the usa populace has a passport.
I don't know if you guys read the other boards (Nuevo Laredo and Ecuador,) but here are some posts I placed just yesterday about this topic:
[QUOTE=Meat Loaf]Whenever I read the Mexican-border forums, I ask myself, "is it worth it?" The constantly high probability of being robbed by the Mexican police. I too use to monger the Mexican-border towns and enjoyed it very much, but after leaving, I don't miss it one bit.
I too understand that the goal of wh*res is well worth the quest. After all, mongering in the USA has the same threat of robbery, but the larceny occurs in getting arrested; car impounded; public disclosure of your arrest; bail; community service sentence; attorney fee; and lifelong "public embarrassment." So, I guess it is worth it. I prefer corrupt countries where you can pay the police and bypass paying the attorney. In either case, you're gonna' pay, but the police are always a lot cheaper and quicker!
It's just such bullshit how Mexico preys upon the Gringo, especially when the 4rd largest contributor to their economy are Gringo tourists. And the 3rd largest contributor to their economy are "illegal aliens" repatriating funds to Mexico. The rouse should be up, but it is not: For it appears that the Gringo is nothing more than an open line-of-cash, not credit, since it never gets repaid.
In summary, I guess when one weighs the alternative of the USA system towards mongering versus the Mexican system of mongering, the Mexican system is better. And remember, Mexican prison has legal prostitution, taco stands, nortena bands, and what other luxuries you can afford. That doesn't exist in the USA penal system and both require the inmate buy commesary (mispelled.)[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Meat Loaf]Yeah, I know the value of pussy and it's $8 with satisfaction guaranteed. Remember, you can purchase pussy cash-in-hand (prostitution) or lease with balloon payment and progressive taxation (marriage.) Never do you take possession of said product despite your desires and capital improvements.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Phordphan]
But, just to get picky, I've been all over SE Asia and, technically, prostitution is illegal in all those countries. It's tolerated everywhere, but still illegal. Same with Taiwan, Japan, China.
PP[/QUOTE]
Sometimes, it is illegal in some places in Asia and not in others. For example, in Hong Kong, paying for sex IS legal if it is done out of the girls apartment and she is the only one working there and there are no pimps involved. In Thailand (Bangkok is my #1 spot), on the books, it is not legal, but we all know the law is never, never, never enforced in the sex capital of the world. Thus, paying for sex in Thailand (in practice) is legal.
In places in Asia where they go crazy for God (I will not name the countries because I do not want to offend anyone) the sex laws are enforced most of the time. And if you have connections, your family has big bucks, or you are the head of the "crazy for God" organization, the cops will never arrest you for paying for sex.
Hum, as for China, this home sweet home for me. I will not go into a long explanation, but it depends on which city you are in if the cops will give you are hard time. In some small cities, paying for sex goes back several thousand of years. And, in some cities, the local code does not have laws against paying for sex. In the city I live in, the cops only give you are hard time if you buy sex from girls on the street during the day. At night, nobody cares. Also, in the major hotels, sex is sold in the high class KTVs, bars, and nightclubs and the cops know about it, but they also visit these places and get kickback. Thus, the cops never arrest anyone in these hotels and there is a sex code on the books.
[quote=meat loaf]the usa isn't really about freedom. the usa is about legislation! with so much legislation being drafted from municipalities, counties, state, and federal authorities the freedom allowed is clearly defined within the legislation. whereas, overseas the amount of legislation is significantly less. remember, the most litigious country in the world is the usa with our 1,000,000 bar members (lawyers) of which 960,000 are white; 20,000 black; and 20,000 are other ethnicities.
secondly, if you think the laws about prostitution are stringent then you may want to read the new legislation, post 1995, concerning "mail order brides" and even "mail order bride" websites who receive members / clients that are usa citizens. furthermore, usa federal legislation follows its citizens overseas as well. hence, if your an ex-pat, but maintain usa citizenship, the laws of the usa federal government are subjected upon you in addition to your host country.
lastly, the new child support laws taking effect around the usa at the state and federal level are confirep001ing occupational licenses and social licenses for as little as $2,500 in arrears. for example, the texas bar association suspends attorney licenses if child support payments are 2-months behind. the department of state is suspending passports for $2,500 in the arrears.
and please remember that child support court (family court) is free for the woman and she has free legal representation (the attorney general and judge) while the father or accused father must represent himself or hire an attorney. in child custody court (family court) both parties must obtain legal representation or represent themselves: child custody court requires the mother to pay-to-play. this is the only equitable area of family court.
usa citizens live this lifestyle of legislation due to the usa's economic opportunities and fear of going overseas. thus, 5% of the usa populace has a passport.[/quote]
meatloaf, usa is a police state. we can talk about dragonic laws, corporate tyranny and lack of meaningfull public participation in the legislature, but the reality is that the citizens are conditioned to be slaves who are afraid of authority. as you said, usa is the country where the government can even take away your ability to make a living (revoking professional licenses). custom officials are confirep001ing laptops to go through your hard drive. you can catch 10 cops on tape, separating bones from muscles of someone who is handcuffed, face down on the ground, and be told not to believe your lying eyes. when the government has authority over a person while he/she is abroad -that is slavery. unleashing 1 mil lawyers who need to sue somebody to make a living and have the ability to affect laws is another way to keep the people down. why do you think they want the population diluted with millions from the thirld world. when over 80% of people are willing to say they don't believe in evolution they are ripe for the picking. us is almost at the point when all of the presidents have the same last name. it's always the countries with least freedom that need to scream about being the land of the free. the only thing people inside such a country can do to feel free is to look at countries which have even less freedoms.
[quote=tulip777]meatloaf, usa is a police state. we can talk about dragonic laws, corporate tyranny and lack of meaningfull public participation in the legislature, but the reality is that the citizens are conditioned to be slaves who are afraid of authority. as you said, usa is the country where the government can even take away your ability to make a living (revoking professional licenses). custom officials are confirep001ing laptops to go through your hard drive. you can catch 10 cops on tape, separating bones from muscles of someone who is handcuffed, face down on the ground, and be told not to believe your lying eyes. when the government has authority over a person while he/she is abroad -that is slavery. unleashing 1 mil lawyers who need to sue somebody to make a living and have the ability to affect laws is another way to keep the people down. why do you think they want the population diluted with millions from the thirld world. when over 80% of people are willing to say they don't believe in evolution they are ripe for the picking. us is almost at the point when all of the presidents have the same last name. it's always the countries with least freedom that need to scream about being the land of the free. the only thing people inside such a country can do to feel free is to look at countries which have even less freedoms.[/quote]
tulip,
you raise some valid points, especially about the ridiculous number of lawyers running around this country. however, i'm not sure i understand the part about lack of public participation in the legislature. the public participates to the degree it wishes. unfortunately, imho, it doesn't participate enough, but that's not due to "corporate tyranny," whatever that means. btw, corporations can't force you to buy their product, put you in jail for not purchasing their stock, etc. but goverment can, and does. so, i'll trust a corporation above a government any day.
let's not forget that it wasn't "conservatives" who convinced the legislatures to pass so much anti-male legislation (such as losing one's professional licenses for non-payment of alimony, etc.) the left-wing feminists have had an inordinate amount of political power, relative to their numbers, since the carter administration. everybody's afraid to stand up to them for fear of being branded anti-woman, a chauvinist, or whatever. the latest debacle, the violence against women act, is the source of the "mail-order bride" laws, the draconian deadbeat-dad laws, and the like. and, yes, we can blame sr. bush for signing the damned thing.
so, i'm not going to point to other countries with less freedom to justify the freedoms that still exist in the usa. but, as you brought it up, which other countries have you visited that have more freedom? and, when considering freedom, i think one has to take into account personal freedom, economic and educational opportunites, and marginal tax rates.
pp
I guess like baseball, sometimes you strike out in life's little games (which includes the sex game). Well, this is how I felt with the street girls yesterday (Sat) in Zona Norte. Hum, or maybe it was just the mood I was in, I have been doing street girls for so long, maybe I need a change. Or, maybe I just miss being back home in my country with the women in my life I have a real relationship with.
Anyway, did my regular hunt and offer of $25 for sex, BJ, cloths off--with NO takers! What the hell is going on, even the girl I did a month ago for $25 wanted $35 yesterday! I quickly figured out that some guys from good old USA (Mexican guys will not pay these high prices) have been paying these street girls big bucks ($35, $40, $45--most Mexicans don't make that for 2 days of regular work in Mexico) and now lots of these girls are expecting it on a regular basis.
Well, no way in hell I was going to pay $35 for something I had last month for $25. A 40% inflation rate only applies to gasoline--not Mexican street pussy! Also, I HAVE A ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY REGARDING OVERPRICED PUSSY. Of course, my policy is NOT as strict as the zero tolerance policy the baseball league has regarding drug use and its players. Well, ok.......it's not really a zero tolerance policy they have......gee.......hum, well actually--they have no policy. But that will not deter me from enforcing my zero tolerance policy!
I ended up with a women about 40 years old and paid her $20 for full service. I told her I want a good BJ and she agreed. The BJ she gave me was excellent and everything was going fine until she opened her legs........geee....what is that scent????? Is it a new perfume.......dam, it is the scent of shit! I guess she had taken a crap earlier and did not fully wipe her ass. <: - O I told myself to hurry up and come and don't think about it, maybe if I turn my face away from the source, it would all be ok.
It gets worse.......I looked at her pussy while I was fucking her and there was some white stuff down there........yikes!!!! What the fuck is that!!! At that point, my little friend (aka, Mr. Willie Dick) said noway was he going to fuck that......and I agreed. In fact, I would not fuck this lady with my dog's dick (my dog has always been a good and loyal pet and he deserves better then that).
My hard-on quickly left and I told the lady I had already came.....she said very quickly......I said yes......as I started to put on my cloths. She was a nice lady so I did not want to make her feel bad about her stinky ass and rotten pussy.
I told myself I had to get back in the game and it was too early to go back across the boarder (about 1:00 pm). So, I went to the HK club, had fun, got a hard-on, went back out to the street girls. Same problems, most wanting high prices....what the hell is going on.
Also, the girls out there this past weekend did not seem like they were in to it. Maybe they were expecting a rich and famous Mexican singer that day to pull up in his new SUV, take them to his villa by the sea and make love to them while the sun was setting. Therefore, it is understandable they were disappointed when I showed up with $25 in my pocket.
Headed over to "Granny Blvd." Saw a few, but they were not fuckable (I am not sure this is a word, but you get the idea). After walking and hanging out, I saw a granny I had fucked a few weeks back. Last time, good fuck and BJ. So, I offered $15 for full service and she agreed--strike two.
In the room, quick and ok BJ, dam! Then I proceeded to fuck her, but she had some type of cold, so she made sick sounds as I was fucking her.....gee, I lost my hard-on and was barely able come (I hate when I have to really work at coming).
Left granny and I felt like leaving TJ. But it's times like this when a man has to dig down deep inside and find a way to carry on. This is what separtes the men from the boys......so I went back to the HK club.........which turned out the be very good and NO strike 3! I hit a home run!
A few new girls I had a great time with. One tall girl was really doing her best to make me happy. She said "me guesta usted." Which means, I like you! Ya, this is what I needed to hear (if she was acting, she was a dam good actress). Actress or not, it was a great performance......and all for a few dollars to touch her pussy several times and suck her tits. She wanted to go to the room, but I had no more gas left in the old tank.
I guess next time, maybe it is time for me to leave the street girls scene for awhile and enjoy the HK club and take a girl from there I really like (and she likes me). Sure, I will pay more, $40 to $50 is what I am willing to pay, but now, I find it much more enjoyable and fun to get to know the girl a little first to see if we "click" before we go to the room. Plus, most girls in the HK club appear to be clean and no smell on my finger after I finger fucked them.
The way I figure it, I could have 1 good HK girl for about $40 to $50, or have a few ok street girls for the same price. Next time, I will buy based on quality and not volume.
As a side note, while I was in the HK club, some girl that was dancing on the stage, fell off the pole and slammed her back and head on the floor. She was out for a few seconds and of course the waiters and management came over to see if she needed a doc. After about 10 minutes, they helped off the stage, I felt sorry her. But, the show must go on, and within a few seconds, another girl was dancing on the stage.
Before I left TJ, I stopped at AB around 3:00 pm. Lots of girls and guys having chats and drinks. Hum, I guess I have been spoiled by the HK club where you can chat, finger their pussies, suck their tits all for a few dollars. After 10 minutes, left AB and headed back across the boarder.
[QUOTE=Undercoverh]Anyway, did my regular hunt and offer of $25 for sex, BJ, cloths off--with NO takers! What the hell is going on, even the girl I did a month ago for $25 wanted $35 yesterday! I quickly figured out that some guys from good old USA (Mexican guys will not pay these high prices) have been paying these street girls big bucks ($35, $40, $45--most Mexicans don't make that for 2 days of regular work in Mexico) and now lots of these girls are expecting it on a regular basis.
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The way I figure it, I could have 1 good HK girl for about $40 to $50, or have a few ok street girls for the same price. Next time, I will buy based on quality and not volume.
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Sr. U,
Yes, I noticed the same thing last night. Maybe it's the cold, or the lack of girls due to Christmas. Last month, while walking through the alley, one cutie grabbed me and offered the standard $20. I didn't have $20 and told her so. She immediately came down to a very serious $10, but all I had was $5 for the taxi, so, no dice. Last night I had to negotiate for a friend, and she demanded $40 for 20m, sin ropa, dos posiciones. She finally settled on $30. I went down the block to one I'd done before and finally got 30 mins., con todo, for $35, but required some dickering. Sheesh, must be a seller's market.
I applaud your efforts to stop the price inflation. Too many people just fork over whatever is demanded, just thinking that it would cost a lot more at home. That thinking has ruined most places in Costa Rica, lots of places in Thailand (mostly frequented by Japanese), and Adelita, to name but a few.
And it's always best to go for quality over quantity, IMHO.
The smelly ass thing is sure a turn off, isn't it! A long time ago a cute dark thing in Beverly Hills Club on La Revu finally conned me into a private dance (I kept refusing the BJ, FS, etc., etc. that the mamasan was pushing). Things were OK in the booth until she turned around and started rubbing her ass on my crotch. Pheew! Couldn't wait for the song to be over. :-) Bailed immediately afterwards.
PP
[QUOTE=Phordphan]Sr. U,
Yes, I noticed the same thing last night. Maybe it's the cold, or the lack of girls due to Christmas. Last month, while walking through the alley, one cutie grabbed me and offered the standard $20. I didn't have $20 and told her so. She immediately came down to a very serious $10, but all I had was $5 for the taxi, so, no dice. Last night I had to negotiate for a friend, and she demanded $40 for 20m, sin ropa, dos posiciones. She finally settled on $30. I went down the block to one I'd done before and finally got 30 mins., con todo, for $35, but required some dickering. Sheesh, must be a seller's market.
I applaud your efforts to stop the price inflation. Too many people just fork over whatever is demanded, just thinking that it would cost a lot more at home. That thinking has ruined most places in Costa Rica, lots of places in Thailand (mostly frequented by Japanese), and Adelita, to name but a few.
And it's always best to go for quality over quantity, IMHO.
The smelly ass thing is sure a turn off, isn't it! A long time ago a cute dark thing in Beverly Hills Club on La Revu finally conned me into a private dance (I kept refusing the BJ, FS, etc., etc. that the mamasan was pushing). Things were OK in the booth until she turned around and started rubbing her ass on my crotch. Pheew! Couldn't wait for the song to be over. :-) Bailed immediately afterwards.
PP[/QUOTE]
Thanks for your comments, I agree. Well, I am going to head back to TJ one my time this year before I head back to my country for a long overdue vacation!!!!!! Thereafter, I will not be back to TJ until early next year. Hopefully, the pricing situation with the street girls will improve. Otherwise, I am going on strike! How do they expect us to work (or in this case, fuck) under these conditions! I am sure if we all ban together (maybe form a union), they will gladly meet our demands. <; - }
Nice topic line eh?
The girls are charging more because of an acute shortage of pussy and an oversupply of stiff dicks (supply and demand).
The white stuff was her ejaculating, her crema. You gots to let her have her moment too guys!!
And the smell, well - you know what shit smells like. Sometimes the girls don't doo a good job wiping their ass. Neither do you sometimes, right?
Don't be a scaredy cat.
Country John
[QUOTE=Country John]Nice topic line eh?
The white stuff was her ejaculating, her crema. You gots to let her have her moment too guys!!
Don't be a scaredy cat.
Country John[/QUOTE]
Hum, well I have seen a lot of girls wetness in my time and I can assure you this was not of the standard ejaculating wetting type........it was more like hazardous waste. Of course, I could be 100% sure only by taking samples and testing it back at the lab...........but as you can guess she would not sit still for that.
Also, I was not cat that was scared, it was my little friend, "Mr. Willie Dick." He refused to enter that tunnel even with with protective gear on (i.e., condom). He was like a turtle retreating his head back into his shell. In otherwords, I lost my hard-on and it refused to come back under those working conditions. : - }
The next man this women needs to be with is a guy with M.D. after his last name.
P.S., Geeezzzes, how far does a women have to be down the food chain to not realize she has a stinky ass and rotten pussy.
From my extensive gynecological backgound (30 years of married bliss?) I'm betting yeast infection. Kinda like cottage cheese bits.
[QUOTE=Undercoverh]Hum, well I have seen a lot of girls wetness in my time and I can assure you this was not of the standard ejaculating wetting type........it was more like hazardous waste. Of course, I could be 100% sure only by taking samples and testing it back at the lab...........but as you can guess she would not sit still for that.
Also, I was not cat that was scared, it was my little friend, "Mr. Willie Dick." He refused to enter that tunnel even with with protective gear on (i.e., condom). He was like a turtle retreating his head back into his shell. In otherwords, I lost my hard-on and it refused to come back under those working conditions. : - }
The next man this women needs to be with is a guy with M.D. after his last name.
P.S., Geeezzzes, how far does a women have to be down the food chain to not realize she has a stinky ass and rotten pussy.[/QUOTE]
Let's face it, the Zona IS pretty far down the food chain for some of these women.
Some have the smarts to hold their own on any floor in the clubs, others have posted in the alley for ages, some are noobies with staying power. Some are old timers but know how to take care of themselves, others are walkers who have a skank apartment in the Zona but still take casre of themselves, others still are skank all the way and probably sleep in the street.
A monger is never out of line asking if the girl is limpia.
Be safe and be nice
Country John
Below is a link to a NPR radio report about the sex trade in Tijuana that played on my local radio station today. Click the speaker icon to listen to a rebroadcast. As usual, when the media finds out America men are having fun with foreign women, the media tries to find the angle that portrays the American man as some stupid guy taking advantage of women.
The story is full of BS. The angle is, "a recent survey there found workers who had sex with American clients more likely to have a sexually-transmitted disease than those who didn't work with Americans." Is this bullshit or what.
Of course, the survey is done by an American women.....is this a joke or what. Geeezzzes, I can't wait to go back home to my country, there is so much media BS here.
During my lunch break, I often talk with an American coworker about American women. He was upset (pissed off is more like it) I put down most American women for being money hungry bitches. I told him if the women here are so wonderful, why are so many American men coming to my country (China) to find a wife or girlfriend. In China, there is not a day that goes by I do not see some American guy with a younger Asian girl.
I also told him, how many men around the world are coming to America to find an American wife........ZERO. Why, because most men around the world know that having an American wife is NO prize.........and she will be a lots of trouble.
Hum, I wonder why the media never has a stories about the outrageous amount money men pay for child support or alimony. Or, how America women are bitches.
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[QUOTE=Undercoverh]Below is a link to a NPR radio report about the sex trade in Tijuana that played on my local radio station today. Click the speaker icon to listen to a rebroadcast. As usual, when the media finds out America men are having fun with foreign women, the media tries to find the angle that portrays the American man as some stupid guy taking advantage of women.
The story is full of BS. The angle is, "a recent survey there found workers who had sex with American clients more likely to have a sexually-transmitted disease than those who didn't work with Americans." Is this bullshit or what.
Of course, the survey is done by an American women.....is this a joke or what. Geeezzzes, I can't wait to go back home to my country, there is so much media BS here.
During my lunch break, I often talk with an American coworker about American women. He was upset (pissed off is more like it) I put down most American women for being money hungry bitches. I told him if the women here are so wonderful, why are so many American men coming to my country (China) to find a wife or girlfriend. In China, there is not a day that goes by I do not see some American guy with a younger Asian girl.
I also told him, how many men around the world are coming to America to find an American wife........ZERO. Why, because most men around the world know that having an American wife is NO prize.........and she will be a lots of trouble.
Hum, I wonder why the media never has a stories about the outrageous amount money men pay for child support or alimony. Or, how America women are bitches.
[url]http://www.theworld.org/?q=node/14819[/url][/QUOTE]
Hear, Hear!!! Very well said! Way too much truth!!!
[QUOTE=Undercoverh]Below is a link to a NPR radio report about the sex trade in Tijuana that played on my local radio station today. Click the speaker icon to listen to a rebroadcast. As usual, when the media finds out America men are having fun with foreign women, the media tries to find the angle that portrays the American man as some stupid guy taking advantage of women.
The story is full of BS. The angle is, "a recent survey there found workers who had sex with American clients more likely to have a sexually-transmitted disease than those who didn't work with Americans. " Is this bullshit or what. Of course, the survey is done by an American women. Is this a joke or what. Geeezzzes, I can't wait to go back home to my country, there is so much media BS here.
During my lunch break, I often talk with an American coworker about American women. He was upset (pissed off is more like it) I put down most American women for being money hungry bitches. I told him if the women here are so wonderful, why are so many American men coming to my country (China) to find a wife or girlfriend. In China, there is not a day that goes by I do not see some American guy with a younger Asian girl.
American women are fine. If they have their own money.
I also told him, how many men around the world are coming to America to find an American wife. ZERO. Why, because most men around the world know that having an American wife is NO prize. And she will be a lots of trouble. Hum, I wonder why the media never has a stories about the outrageous amount money men pay for child support or alimony. Or, how America women are bitches.
[url]http://www.theworld.org/? Q=node/14819[/url][/QUOTE]American women are no problem. If they have their own money.
[QUOTE=Precocious One]American women are no problem. If they have their own money.[/QUOTE]
I can only speak from my experience and interaction with American women. I work in an environment where there are many highly paid professional women. From the way they talk, many of them live from pay check to pay check. However, they have great looking new cars, the best looking business suits, homes with high mortgage payments, and lots of debts from shopping for cloths and shoes.....and many of them are divorced women.
These divorced women have their own money, which they cannot manage, but they still receive child support AND alimony! Of course, in these situations, the x-husband made lots more money than the wife did while they were married. Thus, the man has to pay up when the marriage ends. I would guess that their x-husbands would not agree with your statement.
Don't get me wrong, I am not saying all American women are like this, but most are. Well, if anyone thinks these American women are a great deal, check out the following facts from the most recent U.S. Census:
1. The the number one interracial marriage category in America is between white American men and Asian women--and this trend is on the INCREASE in America.......hum, I wonder why?
2. The marriage rate between American men and American women has been on a steady DECREASE for the past two decades..............hum, I wonder why?
3. For the first time in American history, there are more single people then there are married people.......hum, I wonder why?
4. In California, the divorce rate is 52% within the first 5 years......hum, I wonder why?
The answer to the questions above (which is obvious to anyone with at least a 12th grade education) is that American men are starting to realize American women (even if they have their own money) are too much trouble.
[QUOTE=Undercoverh]I can only speak from my experience and interaction with American women. I work in an environment where there are many highly paid professional women. From the way they talk, many of them live from pay check to pay check. However, they have great looking new cars, the best looking business suits, homes with high mortgage payments, and lots of debts from shopping for cloths and shoes. And many of them are divorced women.
These divorced women have their own money, which they cannot manage, but they still receive child support AND alimony! Of course, in these situations, the x-husband made lots more money than the wife did while they were married. Thus, the man has to pay up when the marriage ends. I would guess that their x-husbands would not agree with your statement.
Don't get me wrong, I am not saying all American women are like this, but most are. Well, if anyone thinks these American women are a great deal, check out the following facts from the most recent U. S. Census:
1. The the number one interracial marriage category in America is between white American men and Asian women--and this trend is on the INCREASE in America. Hum, I wonder why?
2. The marriage rate between American men and American women has been on a steady DECREASE for the past two decades. Hum, I wonder why?
3. For the first time in American history, there are more single people then there are married people. Hum, I wonder why?
4. In California, the divorce rate is 52% within the first 5 years. Hum, I wonder why?
The answer to the questions above (which is obvious to anyone with at least a 12th grade education) is that American men are starting to realize American women (even if they have their own money) are too much trouble. [/QUOTE]Unfortunately, I have to agree with you. I live in the LA area and I am in the military reserves. Rather than deal with American pros, I prefer to drive to TJ or wait until I have to do my annual training in Germany where I can get all the action I want via Eros Centers. Overseas, you don't have to deal with BBWs or crack *****s or overpriced, under-performing, average looking working girls like here in America. And in regards to marriage, selecting a non-American wife over an American wife is a no-brainer.
Interesting post Undercoverh.
American women realize today that the sufferage of the early 1900's was incorrectly done. It's the pussy that will determine the direction of women's rights and the amount of alimoney. Back then of course there were so many social taboos that the "pussy wrench" was not considered a viable tool and sex was never openly discussed, as it is today.
Guys still visited brothels and la Zona so pussy wasn't as powerful then. Today the laws give pussy teeth and a grip that won't let go. Guys are trappped not by pussy, but by the legal system that rewards women for doing nothing more than having kids, or a relationship with a man that is formalized by ceremoney or the mere passage of time. They become entitled to much and have developed a mechanism to secure a lifetime of security and possibly more simply for, as they put it: "Putting up with our shit." for a few years and then maybe popping out a kid or two, no disrespect to mothers, in fact I have one.
The "C" section fed the fire and feeding frenzy when women no longer had to endure the trauma of vaginal births. Now, it's a no brainer. Fuck the guy, wait 9 months and then go to the hospital for an operation, after which you become entitled to a lifetime of security whether or not she is with the guy.
How well she does depends on how well she choses of course. Some chose badly and others do very very well indeed.
Asian women and Mexican women seem to be better equipped to be wives and mothers than American women and this natural ability seems to come from thousand of years of cultural history. They are naturally better at it, and they are naturally better at being who they are; natural women. They actually seem to like it which is a blessing for the man when he recognizes it. Some of these women are like American women however, they are snakes that will bite your head off when the time is right.
Paying for sex therefore will always be a viable (and in some cass preferred) alternative for a lifetime of committment to a woman who at any moment could plunge into the depths of "irreconcilable differences" and therefore become entitled to your life's work. YOU doing the wrong thing in the relationship won't help matters and so therefore might become "entitled" to a thrashing in the court system and the wrath of a "woman scorned" under the natural "fair game" law of the jungle.
The sad part of all this is that American women have adopted the "Meet, marry, fuck, birth, divorce" routine as an alternative to living a real life. THAT is why (in my huimble opinion) we go to the zona, and THAT is why single people outnumber married people.
Sorry for the long post, off topic discussion etc.
And "jingle bells" baby.
Country John
[QUOTE=Country John]Interesting post Undercoverh.
The sad part of all this is that American women have adopted the "Meet, marry, fuck, birth, divorce" routine as an alternative to living a real life. THAT is why (in my huimble opinion) we go to the zona, and THAT is why single people outnumber married people.
Sorry for the long post, off topic discussion etc.
And "jingle bells" baby.
Country John[/QUOTE]
Good comments and I understand your POV. Well, I will be in the Zona this weekend to spread cheer and donate to the cause so the ladies can help buy presents for their babies! Maybe I will try to do at least two ladies.......it's just my small way of giving back more. ; - ]
As usual, when the media finds out America men are having fun with foreign women, the media tries to find the angle that portrays the American man as some stupid guy taking advantage of women.
I have been hearing those stories for years. Those men trick these women and use them and not vis a versa. So women have to be protected but yet still have equal rights. Divorce in the USA is a scary thing. The guys who runs, it almost seem no one goes after them. All the guys I know who wanted to do the right thing for their kids got the shaft. The X is living in the house with the gardener and he has no say on it.
When the working girls are not in a rush I talk to them how they started doing this. One common type story I heard is, I hated school and dropped out and started working in the fields. I was giving it away so why not charge for it. So now I am making more money and working less.
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The story is full of BS. The angle is, "a recent survey there found workers who had sex with American clients more likely to have a sexually-transmitted disease than those who didn't work with Americans."
LMAO, they got that backwards. The local’s wont pay as much as the northern clients, and also they do not like wearing condoms. So the women can chase gringos and charge them triple the local rate. The all over majority of gringos insist on wearing a condom. Also if a working girl is with a local and she refuses to do something he wants, he could beat her up and the police will not do anything. Of course if a gringo does that they will be arrested.
Why I don’t chase American women is simple. When I have gone out with them all I hear is me me me. I have to sit there and listen to them talk about them selves and their rotten X and act interested. They never return calls or emails and act like they are doing me a big favor by allowing me to spend money on them. If I think of it, I have to go out with a American woman a couple times before I can have sex. If I include into the equation the ones I only went out once, I would guess having sex with a American woman would cost around 500 to 1000+.
One time in work I over heard this women talking about all the men she married and took them to the cleaners. Of course she kept blowing the money. So of course the American women want to stop all prostitution. When men get it cheap why marry a money grubbing shrill.
After my session at Adelitas I went to the alley, and it had picked up considerably since I arrived at 3pm. I still needed time to recharge so I went on the prowl for that oyster stand that CJ or OWL was talking about. I’ve been wanting to try it for a while, and after a bit I found a stand. He had oysters and a couple different kinds of clams, I opted for the 3 oyster cup, he shucked them, and added salsa, onions, hot sauce, and topped it all off with fresh avocado slices, LIFE IS GOOD! I slurped it all and munched on the large cracker that comes with it. Sooo tasty, I then awaited the gastro-intestinal death that I was sure would accompany my seafood meal (for some reason I am a little weary of shellfish from Mexico), but it all stayed down and as of today I am still alive ; - >
Now recharged with 3 oysters I was ready for action. I found this cutie standing on the corner just down from the police station on Constitucion I think. Very cute face, hair to her shoulders, said her name was Salma, and I think she said she was 20 or 21. She said 20 for everything and 5 for room. After BSing with her for a bit she seemed fun and I went up with her. Boy I’m glad I did because she was shot out of a cannon, my first GFE in the zona! Eureka I found it! Lots of sensual kissing and talking, multiple positions, I even extended my time with her, partly because I hadn’t waited long enough to recharge and was taking longer than usual. It ended with her hj’ing me all over her big titties, OMG! Life is good, at the end it felt like all I had was saw dust shooting out, she pulled every last drop.
With my last dollar spent, it was off to the border, until next time.
[QUOTE=Corndog]
Why I don’t chase American women is simple. When I have gone out with them all I hear is me me me. I have to sit there and listen to them talk about them selves and their rotten X and act interested. They never return calls or emails and act like they are doing me a big favor by allowing me to spend money on them. If I think of it, I have to go out with a American woman a couple times before I can have sex. If I include into the equation the ones I only went out once, I would guess having sex with a American woman would cost around 500 to 1000+.
One time in work I over heard this women talking about all the men she married and took them to the cleaners. Of course she kept blowing the money. So of course the American women want to stop all prostitution. When men get it cheap why marry a money grubbing shrill.[/QUOTE]
I agree with your comments above. The reasons you noted above are the reasons why so many American men are retiring and living in Asia (or other parts of the world, South America, etc.) where the cost of living is cheaper and the women are younger. When I was in Pattaya several years ago, I met an American guy in his 60s who retired in Pattaya and purchased a condo for $40,000. He had a live in 30 year old girlfriend (cute girl with great tits) that treated him like a king. He said the choice for him was simple, live in America and chase bitches with blue hair or live in Asia like a king and have 24/7 access to young lovely girls that wanted to be with him.
I have traveled a lot and America is the only place I have been to where the women are the KINGS. Trust me, in other countries in Asia, Central and South America, the men run the show. The women basically shut the fuck up and go along with the program.
Went down yesterday afternoon. There was the usual number of girls on the streets. I went to a room with Beatrice, the morena. She is looking good these days. Her hair is curled and full. She still has the bush on her puss, too.
I put my finger down between her legs and she was really wet. SHe got a little embarassed and then spit on her hand and said that was what it was. Sure, I thought. I banged her for a good 15 minutes and think she had an orgasm.
She is one of the best down there.
By the way she leaves daily at 3pm now which is why I reported earlier that I had not seen her in awhile. During the holiday season she says she will be out there a little later ( 5 or 6, I think).
TJ
Tj Fannatico
So where was she at? $s?
I plan to come over feb or so. You think she will be there?
Gracias
Looking for some street girls around adelitas, anyone know where they stay at?
Like if you come out of Adelitas, and turn right are they down there or where?
_______________________________X Beatrice
The ALLEY
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Miami Club Hong Kong
She is always standing at the corner of the alley near a bar on the side across from Miami Club and Hong Kong. Yes, she will probably be there in Feb.
When I say the corner I mean she is right on that corner. She takes you to a little $3 hotel. The people there are fine. If you get one of the squeaky beds that is even better!
TJ
[QUOTE=Tjmee]Looking for some street girls around adelitas, anyone know where they stay at?
Like if you come out of Adelitas, and turn right are they down there or where?[/QUOTE]
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Come out of Adelitas, take a right, at the corner take another right, walk up one block and take another right (you are behind Adelitas) into what is known at the Alley. You will find many girls there.
[QUOTE=D Cooper76]After my session at Adelitas I went to the alley, and it had picked up considerably since I arrived at 3pm. I still needed time to recharge so I went on the prowl for that oyster stand that CJ or OWL was talking about. I’ve been wanting to try it for a while, and after a bit I found a stand. He had oysters and a couple different kinds of clams, I opted for the 3 oyster cup, he shucked them, and added salsa, onions, hot sauce, and topped it all off with fresh avocado slices, LIFE IS GOOD! I slurped it all and munched on the large cracker that comes with it. Sooo tasty, I then awaited the gastro-intestinal death that I was sure would accompany my seafood meal (for some reason I am a little weary of shellfish from Mexico), but it all stayed down and as of today I am still alive ; - >
Now recharged with 3 oysters I was ready for action. I found this cutie standing on the corner just down from the police station on Constitucion I think. Very cute face, hair to her shoulders, said her name was Salma, and I think she said she was 20 or 21. She said 20 for everything and 5 for room. After BSing with her for a bit she seemed fun and I went up with her. Boy I’m glad I did because she was shot out of a cannon, my first GFE in the zona! Eureka I found it! Lots of sensual kissing and talking, multiple positions, I even extended my time with her, partly because I hadn’t waited long enough to recharge and was taking longer than usual. It ended with her hj’ing me all over her big titties, OMG! Life is good, at the end it felt like all I had was saw dust shooting out, she pulled every last drop.
With my last dollar spent, it was off to the border, until next time.[/QUOTE]
Excellent TR. You you want tot take care of this girlie. Someone might snatch her up and turn her into a great little live in.
Country John
[QUOTE=Undercoverh]
I have traveled a lot and America is the only place I have been to where the women are the KINGS. Trust me, in other countries in Asia, Central and South America, the men run the show. The women basically shut the fuck up and go along with the program.[/QUOTE]
All this bashing on American women. I'm pretty sure American men aren't angels themselves. Women rights have changed drastically in the US, but that doesn't mean they are all the same. I've known some pretty hot women who easily treat men like crap but there is usually a certain guy in their life that treats them like crap and while they say they don't like it, they keep running back to these guys. I could never be the jerks these guys are, but I envy that they can get these hot American women to do all their bidding.
And of course the few gems of American women who do treat their guys like kings. Very few though and not easy to find...
CJ,
You're right, I've been trying to get her to go for long time but she says that she has to take care of her little puppy, she showed me pics of it on her cell phone, its kinda cute. But more likely than not she has to get back home to her TJ boyfriend, who knows with these chicas.
OWL,
Yeah, I was tempted to try and make some at home as well. As far as the stand on the street, when I watched him shuck the oysters, they just exploded with juices, which I think was a good indicator of freshness. And the pride that these guys put in to it, I would have been happy with the oysters and some salsa dumped on top, but this guy added fresh onions and freshly sliced avocado to boot, definately not assembly line service.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]All this bashing on American women. I'm pretty sure American men aren't angels themselves. Women rights have changed drastically in the US, but that doesn't mean they are all the same. I've known some pretty hot women who easily treat men like crap but there is usually a certain guy in their life that treats them like crap and while they say they don't like it, they keep running back to these guys. I could never be the jerks these guys are, but I envy that they can get these hot American women to do all their bidding.
And of course the few gems of American women who do treat their guys like kings. Very few though and not easy to find...[/QUOTE]
The push for "equal rights" was justified in many respects, nobody deserves to be treated the way women were in our early hisory. Bbut because they carry it so far, they lost their identity as "women" and now want to "be" men. It's a pity because real men need real women more than gold.
Country John
The same could be said the other way around.
Most American men now are unfit slobs. If you look at pictures of about 50 years ago, most men would always dress up, suit, hat and dress shoes, had a job and kept himself healthy and clean cut. Look at what most men look like now. Walk into a mall in the US, and most men will be dressed baggy, have messed up hair, fat and definitely not in shape. Sandals and shorts? Back in the day that was only for when you where at the beach but now its become a norm? And why is the only hat that guys wear now-a-days restricted to baseball caps?
That's why you also hear women say, "There's no more real men."
No way the relationship problems in the US are based only on women. It's two sided.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]The same could be said the other way around.
Most American men now are unfit slobs. Walk into a mall in the US, and most men will be dressed baggy, have messed up hair, fat and definitely not in shape. Sandals and shorts?[/QUOTE]
I agree and why do some of these slobs walk around TJ in the same high water pants and flip flops when anyone in touch would realize it's 42 degrees outside? Having said that I think women have even contributed to men becoming slobs as so many seem to prefer them, that and the general 'gringa' attitude.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]The same could be said the other way around.
Most American men now are unfit slobs. If you look at pictures of about 50 years ago, most men would always dress up, suit, hat and dress shoes, had a job and kept himself healthy and clean cut. Look at what most men look like now. Walk into a mall in the US, and most men will be dressed baggy, have messed up hair, fat and definitely not in shape. Sandals and shorts? Back in the day that was only for when you where at the beach but now its become a norm? And why is the only hat that guys wear now-a-days restricted to baseball caps?
That's why you also hear women say, "There's no more real men."
No way the relationship problems in the US are based only on women. It's two sided.[/QUOTE]
The respect that men showed each other by dressing smart went away when the need to be respectful went away.
My observation has been that society developed so many ways to "bypass" the middleman, or the ther man or a human being at all that impressing anyone doesn't really appear at the top of anyone's priority list anymore. So few do business at arms length anymore.
Back when we all dressed, (suit, tie, her in a dress etc.) our appearance was supposed to represent our manners and our sense of self worth and respect for others. Being clean and smelling good was "in" with the "in" crows and "groovy." At work it was to coform to a standard of attire deemed acceptable in a professional environment.
Environments are not so "professional" anymore. There might be a need still to confor, but it's for money -the payceck; not because we feel good about doing it. It's an expense and a fucking pain in the ass.
"Dress to Impress" means to wear appropriate clothing in order to help you achieve somehing. Getting laid would be a good example, getting a job would be another.
I think wearing cool clothing that shows some design sense should be everyday wear. I fear that in 100 years or so clothing will be desiged more for protection.
Guys don't care to impress anymore and: "If you don't like what I'm wearing then you can kiss my fucking ass." is the attitude. OK.
Girls do notice when a guy is dressed. It means HE HAS MONEY (maybe) and many are willing to go that extra 1`/2 to 3/4 mile to file out. Some will go all the way. Not all of them notice or care but top tier girls will, the gold diggers.
Just like back in the day when the sharp dresser got the girls, the breaks, the jobs etc.
I'm not suggesting wear a suit, or a tux, don't go CNN on me. Just dress sharp. Leave the bermuda shorts, tee shirts and baseball caps home. Aside from advertising that you are Americano (and a funny dressed one at that) you might bean easier mark for the bad guys.
Or maybe the fashon police.
Country John
I don't think things should go back to the dress and suit days, but at least decent clothes should be worn. It bugs me to see sloppily dressed men. The ones who don't seem to give a rats ass about their appearance by letting themselves go, wear sloppy clothes, that kind of stuff. The same goes for women. Hot women who dress sloppy can usually still look hot and they usually still work it a bit. But the ones who really bug me are those really fat women, who are totally out of shape wear bad clothes, have a hairstyle from two decades ago and let their face grow more facial than me. Women like that disgust me. And you just know that they don't even care to change. And there are men just as bad. People like this should not even be allowed to live here in L.A. They're ruining... scratch that, ruined the L.A. reputation of being mostly hot looking crowds.
Man, I'm just ranting now. I'll stop.
See ya'll in La Zona on New Years, Efjayel, CJ, and I will be the one's wearing Zoot Suits. ; - >
Have fun everyone,
CJ, I saw you refer to the bathroom as the head, were you a squid in your past life? I was a Navy man myself and was wondering if you were as well.
Huh, and here I thought that when he said that the girl went for the head, she wen't down on him. j/k
Anyways, time for another Zoot Suit riot! :D
[QUOTE=D Cooper76]See ya'll in La Zona on New Years, Efjayel, CJ, and I will be the one's wearing Zoot Suits. ; - >
Have fun everyone,
CJ, I saw you refer to the bathroom as the head, were you a squid in your past life? I was a Navy man myself and was wondering if you were as well.[/QUOTE]
Naww, no military in the USA, pero saludos to all of the fine men and women in our armed services - heros each and every one.
Country John
Since the zona was dead, I tried my luck with an alley girl. I was headed for the caliente sports book and this one girl gave me a big smile so I stopped and had a little chat with her. Her name is Ana. Very cute flaca with black hair.
Even though I have read that most alley girls are wham, bam, thank you madam, Ana was alot of fun.
After some small talk, I asked her how much. She said $20.00usd and $3.00 for the room. She stands by the Eduardo hotel and uses this hotel for her trade. As stated before, this hotel is pretty bad. I was afraid to take my shoes off. Anyways, before we went to the hotel, I asked if for the $20.00 would it be sin ropa, and she said yes.
Once in the room, because it was so cold that night, for the first ten minutes, all we did was cuddle in the buff. With her there was no rush. I didn't ask for head and was not given any but the sex itself was good. She is very tight and while cuddling, she let me play with her pussy. We did do two positions and after I came, she wanted to cuddle somemore. Her hands were still cold on my back, but it was just one of those moments you just can't forget.
Ana is a sweet girl and for the price, she was worth more than some of the bar girls I have had. She is on my repeat list.
[quote=ninguno especial]i agree and why do some of these slobs walk around tj in the same high water pants and flip flops when anyone in touch would realize it's 42 degrees outside? having said that i think women have even contributed to men becoming slobs as so many seem to prefer them, that and the general 'gringa' attitude.[/quote]
i second everyone's opinion. i always cringe during my travels when i run across other tourists and their sartorial faux pas. (what's the plural of faus pax? fauxs pas?) anyway, shorts, flip-flops, baseball cap on backwards, shi*t. why don't you just paint a sign on your forehead, "i am a slob!"
i don't wear anything fancy in tj, but all my other travels i wear khaki slacks. hawaiian-type shirts, loafers. i try to look like a semi-respectible sex tourist, not some derilict. americans (and other europeans) running around foreign places, looking like somebody who lives on a park bench, is a serious pet peeve.
pp
Was in TJ yesterday. Things were somewhat normal in the alley in the afternoon. I left around 6pm. Since I am down so often I noticed quite a few girls not working. Two of my regulars, Beatrice and Azaleda, were not out there, so I no the lot was slimmer than normal.
Also, the HSBC was closed and the ATM machines were locked. I had to go to the Banamex (near Aztec Massage) across the street from HSBC. I hate going to Banamex because it has one of those machines where you stick your card in and pull it out. When you are done there is no English and you are not sure whether your account has closed. Plus, there seems to always be some Mexican upon seeing a gringo decides to get in line behind you. I actually yelled at the one who did it yesterday, telling him, "I hate when you people do that when you see the other machine is open!" My guess is they are hoping you will make a mistake and not finish the transaction, then they can use your account.
...Back in the alley I banged an Indian (native Mexican) girl for $10, $5 for the room. She stands across from the alley on the side of the street very close to the police station. Her breath was awful ,so i had to turn my head. I would have faked an orgasm and left but thought since this was a New Year it might be good practice in case I have to bang another bad breath woman for some reason.
I actually had a good time because I kept saying to myself, "GET back in that pussy boy," and, "be a man, stick in the hole," like a drill sergeant. SHe thought it was funny, too.
Before leaving I ate tacos at that stand near the last Calient betting booth near the border. Those tacos are really good for 12 pesos or $1.
I will be back in a couple of days for my two day stay at Peublo Amigo.
TJ
[quote=phordphan]i second everyone's opinion. i always cringe during my travels when i run across other tourists and their sartorial faux pas. (what's the plural of faus pax? fauxs pas?) anyway, shorts, flip-flops, baseball cap on backwards, shi*t. why don't you just paint a sign on your forehead, "i am a slob!"
i don't wear anything fancy in tj, but all my other travels i wear khaki slacks. hawaiian-type shirts, loafers. i try to look like a semi-respectible sex tourist, not some derilict. americans (and other europeans) running around foreign places, looking like somebody who lives on a park bench, is a serious pet peeve.
pp[/quote]realize that i am new on the board. but have been to tj several times. if any of you think that you are going to impress the average tj ***** by dressing nice. you are only fooling yourself. tj is built for comfort, not speed. they only care about what is in your pockets and they could care less if those pockets are part of a pair of shorts or a pair of suit pants. plus. who wants to wear nice clothes with a good chance of them getting ruined when undressing in the hotel with your *****. i have no problem wearing a t-shirt, shorts, and sandals or sneakers when i am down there. *****s take my money regardless. some of you that actually build relationships with these *****s have other issues and are delusional.
[quote=tampa tj fan]realize that i am new on the board. but have been to tj several times. if any of you think that you are going to impress the average tj ***** by dressing nice. you are only fooling yourself. tj is built for comfort, not speed. they only care about what is in your pockets and they could care less if those pockets are part of a pair of shorts or a pair of suit pants. plus. who wants to wear nice clothes with a good chance of them getting ruined when undressing in the hotel with your *****. i have no problem wearing a t-shirt, shorts, and sandals or sneakers when i am down there. *****s take my money regardless. some of you that actually build relationships with these *****s have other issues and are delusional.[/quote]
'tampa tj fan' does have a point. to all those nice folks down there in our favorite tourist trap we all look the same: just like walking atm's. besides, i think it actually helps to dress down a bit; walking around while looking (to the locals) as if you're made of money sometimes ends up inviting the wrong kind of attention from the wrong kind of people. i'm not saying that it's okay to be a slob, but the zona doesn't exactly strike me as a "buttoned-down" sort of place.
If you want to Stand Out from the crowd then dress like a tourist, that way the cops and the rateros can see you from a greater distance, especially at night when it really matters. The girls will see another example of the average monger; nothing special.
I agree about impressing the girls, why bother? Well, in some cases it does matter. Some girls will session better with a guy who looks like he's got some potential as a client. They see a million Disney types a day, and they probably all get the same service.
It also can help with the cops who are stupid enought to believe that you might be "somebody." You might be more difficult to roll for money because you look smarter than the average gringo.
I could go on, but why bother. Clothes don't make the man, that's true but they do make the image. IN a place where image can matter it's wise in my humble opinion to pay some attention to it.
Country John
[QUOTE=Country John]If you want to Stand Out from the crowd then dress like a tourist, that way the cops and the rateros can see you from a greater distance, especially at night when it really matters. The girls will see another example of the average monger; nothing special.
I agree about impressing the girls, why bother? Well, in some cases it does matter. Some girls will session better with a guy who looks like he's got some potential as a client. They see a million Disney types a day, and they probably all get the same service.
It also can help with the cops who are stupid enought to believe that you might be "somebody." You might be more difficult to roll for money because you look smarter than the average gringo.
I could go on, but why bother. Clothes don't make the man, that's true but they do make the image. IN a place where image can matter it's wise in my humble opinion to pay some attention to it.
Country John[/QUOTE]
Right. In TJ you don't dress flashy, and nobody's out to impress the chicas. But, jeans, sneakers, average shirt, etc., go a long way in creating a stealth image. Looking like a noobie tourist isn't necessarily good for one's desire to avoid unwanted attention. Of course, looking like a pimp isn't too smart, either. There's a happy medium.
Other countries work a bit differently, but much the same. Few countries have shorts, T-shirts and backwards baseball caps as the normal dress code for your average male. Long pants, conservative clothing, minimal bling are the order of the day.
Most asian countries place a lot more emphasis on image. Neatness can count, and you will be treated, overall, better if you don't look like a walking Salvation Army store.
PP
Sorry, but I don't agree with Tampax Tj Fan.
I don't dress in a tuxedo or anything flashy but I do wear above decent clothes. It gets me looks from regular girls here in L.A. and from the chicas in TJ. Girls know decent clothes. I've had girls look me up and down and when they see that I notice them checking me out they shy away and quickly look in a different direction. Even from some of the chicas in the club. The other day I was in one of the bars and got the mesero to bring a girl over to my table, that girl later told me that her friend said that I looked good and hoped that I would have invited her to my table for a drink.
Yes I still believe that these girls are simply looking for mongers to pay them for a deed done. But I also notice that I don't have any trouble with any of the girls. I've seen guys come up to a hot girl and the girl just waves them off probably cause she doesn't consider them good enough. While all I have to do is make eye contact with that same girl and she'll come up to me. And I'm sure that dressing and looking good is part of the reason none of them have ever brushed me off.
As for making relationships with some of the chicas, if you don't want that then thats fine. But I preffer making a relationship since I've noticed that it usually leads to better service. Maybe its just me, but I don't just want a hop in the bed, but also a friend and someone I can talk to and relax with. I find that just as fun as going upstairs.
Efjayel,
I totally agree with you.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Yes I still believe that these girls are simply looking for mongers to pay them for a deed done. But I also notice that I don't have any trouble with any of the girls. I've seen guys come up to a hot girl and the girl just waves them off probably cause she doesn't consider them good enough.[/QUOTE]Looking good never hurts, and if it gets you into your game, power to you.
What I've heard from a few girls, the biggest turn off to them is a guy who smells. I've even noticed it sometimes when you walk by guys hanging at the bar and you go "Whew!"
Also, just an FYI for those of you staying on prolonged TJ trips, I know in some countries it's pretty common to have a wet face towel to wash your face with. Unfortunately, that thing will start to stink packed in your suitcase or in a toiletry bag. And, then when you wipe your face, you'll stink. I've met people traveling that do this and they have no clue about the smell, because they're so used to it. But to each their own, in hear in Romania/Bulgaria guys put their hankerchiefs in their armpits first before putting it in a jacket, their version of cologne.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]As for making relationships with some of the chicas, if you don't want that then thats fine. But I preffer making a relationship since I've noticed that it usually leads to better service. Maybe its just me, but I don't just want a hop in the bed, but also a friend and someone I can talk to and relax with. I find that just as fun as going upstairs.[/QUOTE]To each their own, some of us don't have the time stuff on the side and need their quick fix and head back north. But for those that have the time and inclination, building good ties with the girls does lead to better service in general (though you need to dodge any real/fake jealousy factors).
For example, a new fav of mine at AB was looking for a specific gift for her child that she couldn't find in Mexico. It was easy enough to get in the US, but I made sure she knew it wasn't something I'd give her but she just needed to pay me what it cost. So I stopped by on the 18th toy in hand, and paid me (showed her the receipt). I knew it was getting close to the end of her shift, so I thought she'd thank me upstairs but she asked me if I was hungry instead. Said sure and I waited around the corner for her to pick me up. After dinner (guess I'm old fashioned but I still insisted on paying), I was surprised when she asked me to her place. Fortunately the roommate was still working, but she certainly made me a happy camper with a great session. Since she didn't mention money, neither did I, so it was even nicer getting a freebie. Hope she invites me over again in the future!
I hate being around people with BO or any kind of offensive odor. I take mint gum with me and chew on a piece before talking to a chica and before going upstairs. I'll offer them a piece too. They've never turned it down. Plus I always shower after every session and even before a session on hot days when I know I'm going to have a slight case of body odor. Plus I carry some deoderant with me. I always make sure I don't become one of those stinky guys that will repel the chicas.
Guys that travel a lot and are used to living out of a suitacase know how to pack for short forays. International standards are different that's for sure. I have a lot of stuff I carry around since I travel regularly between the US and Mexico so my address is a fucking suitcase or so it seems.
Good hygene, aside from smelling nice is of course healthy. Many girls told me (and it still comes up in conversations) that they love it when a guy is clean and smells good. They don't get it as often as they would like so, believe it or not, they do notice.
I realize it doesn't make a difference to the "ride 'em and run" crowd but girls have told me that they'll do extended sessions with limpias. Mind you I don't have solid connection with bar girls but I do talk to a lot of posters and walkers casually since many live in the apartment building managed by my girlies sister.
You can get travel hygene kits everywhere that help take care of the hygene issues you encounter on the road. If you need to get the smell of pussy off your dick, use shampoo and not soap. It does the job very well by the way and is a quick fix between sessions.
Most girls will go skank if there's money in it but limpias get the sweet meat. Just like guys who probably won't take up a stinker, it's a two way street.
Country John
[QUOTE=Country John]Guys that travel a lot and are used to living out of a suitacase know how to pack for short forays. International standards are different that's for sure. I have a lot of stuff I carry around since I travel regularly between the US and Mexico so my address is a fucking suitcase or so it seems.
Good hygene, aside from smelling nice is of course healthy. Many girls told me (and it still comes up in conversations) that they love it when a guy is clean and smells good. They don't get it as often as they would like so, believe it or not, they do notice.
I realize it doesn't make a difference to the "ride 'em and run" crowd but girls have told me that they'll do extended sessions with limpias. Mind you I don't have solid connection with bar girls but I do talk to a lot of posters and walkers casually since many live in the apartment building managed by my girlies sister.
You can get travel hygene kits everywhere that help take care of the hygene issues you encounter on the road. If you need to get the smell of pussy off your dick, use shampoo and not soap. It does the job very well by the way and is a quick fix between sessions.
Most girls will go skank if there's money in it but limpias get the sweet meat. Just like guys who probably won't take up a stinker, it's a two way street.
Country John[/QUOTE]
TRANSLATION!
Wash your Balls and Culo!
Sorry CJ, I was just trying to help those with little English :D
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]TRANSLATION!
Wash your Balls and Culo!
Sorry CJ, I was just trying to help those with little English :D[/QUOTE]
LOL!
Yeah man thanks for the cliff's note.
Keep scrubbing until the water runs clear.
LOL
In TJ right now. The alley is not as busy as usual because a small ,but significant number of girsl are on vacation. Plus, it rained two days straight which causes girls to stay home, too.
However, one girl just told me that she really did well Saturday and Sunday because many guys cannot work in the rain and thus bang girls instead. Her snatch was very wide today when I got some, so I beleive she has been doing some major banging.
If you are coming down then you should be able to bargain, especially in the alley. I paid $5 less than normal on an already reduced rate.
Have fun.
TJ
I will be in San Diego in a week or so (Tuesday) and I can only manage a few hours mid day (12-5 or so) to run accross the border for some action. How is the SW action? Anything or non existant?
[QUOTE=DFWdude]I will be in San Diego in a week or so (Tuesday) and I can only manage a few hours mid day (12-5 or so) to run accross the border for some action. How is the SW action? Anything or non existant?[/QUOTE]IMO for day SG action, your best bet is to first check out the girls standing outside hotel Eduardo.
Location/Price: Located in the alley, directly across Hotel Cascadas. $3 dollars for ST at Eduardo. Chica price, anywhere starting from $120 pesos ($12).
[QUOTE=DFWdude]I will be in San Diego in a week or so (Tuesday) and I can only manage a few hours mid day (12-5 or so) to run accross the border for some action. How is the SW action? Anything or non existant?[/QUOTE]
There will always be SW action, the Alley is always open but with that kind of time, you can hit a club for a brewski, then arriba for a glam slam. Just get in, do your thing and leave. You should be fine. I figure the selection will have something to your taste.
Country John
[QUOTE=DFWdude]I will be in San Diego in a week or so (Tuesday) and I can only manage a few hours mid day (12-5 or so) to run accross the border for some action. How is the SW action? Anything or non existant?[/QUOTE]
I was down a week ago on a Sunday and the pickings were pretty slim because many return home for the holidays.
[QUOTE=Reinaldo]I was down a week ago on a Sunday and the pickings were pretty slim because many return home for the holidays.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, you're right about that. Things seems to be picking up now though. I was through on Saturday and it looks like it's starting to get back to normal. I think that maybe another week or so will see the troops back at full strength.
Country John
[b]So how many of you actually get sex in TJ's Zona Norte for under $20 ? [/b]
I'm curious since I rarely go above that for the girls on the street, even for anal.
Usually here it's 20 plus the room but 5 years ago or so a newbie girl from the South wanted only 80 pesos which also included her sweet butt.
I haven't mongered in the South of the country and have been told it costs normally half of here for street action.
If this is true, then obviously most of the ladies get schooled about the border rates well before coming north.
Pornland - Sex Prison USA is likely the cause as some of us seem to pay almost anything to taste the real stuff, even across the frontera.
Nevertheless, I still get a little surprised when I hear/read reports of $10 etc pussy in TJ.
BTW, I'm not talking about the crystal addicted crusties either.
[QUOTE=Bobisee][b]So how many of you actually get sex in TJ's Zona Norte for under $20 ? [/b]
[/QUOTE]
8 years ago I could get a lot for 100 pesos but rare these days. I know 2 guys who still get it bottom nude only for 150 pesos. As for myself I am happy with 20 full nude but even this is becoming rare.
Years ago I knew of a hottie who was going with locals for 50 pesos in order to collect for a ticket home. I took her in 3 times that day for 100 pesos each being the nice guy that I am.
I saw some references to anal with SG. Last time I was there I paid $25-$30 for BJ and FS sin ropa.
What would be the going rate for anal and what is the correct way to ask for it in spanish?
[QUOTE=Bobisee][b]So how many of you actually get sex in TJ's Zona Norte for under $20 ? [/b]
I'm curious since I rarely go above that for the girls on the street, even for anal.
Usually here it's 20 plus the room but 5 years ago or so a newbie girl from the South wanted only 80 pesos which also included her sweet butt.
I haven't mongered in the South of the country and have been told it costs normally half of here for street action.
If this is true, then obviously most of the ladies get schooled about the border rates well before coming north.
Pornland - Sex Prison USA is likely the cause as some of us seem to pay almost anything to taste the real stuff, even across the frontera.
Nevertheless, I still get a little surprised when I hear/read reports of $10 etc pussy in TJ.
BTW, I'm not talking about the crystal addicted crusties either.[/QUOTE]
I think the usual street rate is $20, plus 5 for the room. However, regulars and Mexicans pay less. It seems girls who service lots of Mexicans will include gringos who come to TJ alot in that category. Then you are paying $15 or in some cases $10.
I spend $10-$15 but I am in TJ all of the time. Plus I will at times just give them $20 when I have it. But most guys should count on paying AT LEAST $20 for ST.
TJ
TJ
[QUOTE=El Reytijuanero]Does anyone know Janete club mini? I saw her after i had blown my $250. She said i was guapo, but i had no dinero.[/QUOTE]
Well she told me the same thing. LOL... YMMV but she is expensive or was a couple of years ago when I last banged her. Best feature was the CBJ. Seems like she was asking something like $40 for a 15 min. BJ and f**k. Her prices may have come down with all the new younger competition.
Very pretty chica however.
[QUOTE=Ninguno Especial]8 years ago I could get a lot for 100 pesos but rare these days. I know 2 guys who still get it bottom nude only for 150 pesos. As for myself I am happy with 20 full nude but even this is becoming rare.
Years ago I knew of a hottie who was going with locals for 50 pesos in order to collect for a ticket home. I took her in 3 times that day for 100 pesos each being the nice guy that I am.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]I think the usual street rate is $20, plus 5 for the room. However, regulars and Mexicans pay less. It seems girls who service lots of Mexicans will include gringos who come to TJ alot in that category. Then you are paying $15 or in some cases $10.
I spend $10-$15 but I am in TJ all of the time. Plus I will at times just give them $20 when I have it. But most guys should count on paying AT LEAST $20 for ST.[/QUOTE]
Yes I agree that most guys will wind up paying "AT LEAST $20" for SG but I'm not sure if I agree that they "should". :) Esp. when many if not most give shitty service and/or nickle and dime us to death for every little thing.
I understand that $20 is not that big a deal, even though many of us know that this amount can often get you the whole night or at least an hour or two in some other place. In Ecuador, I was getting can get 3 separate pussies for the around same price.
(Sometimes much more if you've seen my posts there.) I really don't like the 15 to 20 minute scenarios but am stuck with that for $20 along the border or for drug addict sex on the other side inside Pornland - Sex Prison USA.
[QUOTE=Only Looking]I saw some references to anal with SG. Last time I was there I paid $25-$30 for BJ and FS sin ropa.
What would be the going rate for anal and what is the correct way to ask for it in spanish?[/QUOTE]"Puede hacer sexo por atras ?" or "Hace sexo anal ?" seems the easiest.
IMHO, guys should not pay more than 20 plus the room for oral & sex totally nude.
Also tell them "Siempre pago despues" (I always pay afterwards)
Don't forget to learn your basic pronunciation of the vowels in Spanish -- it's easy.
To include anal, 5 -10 usd extra max should do it. About 1 in 10 will usually do anal and half of those will do it your way.
The more guys that start asking for it, I believe more girls will start doing it.
This last Tuesday afternoon and in less than 1 hour, I saw at least 5 girls who said they would give me their asses and I didn't even do a complete scan of the area. Of those 5 ladies, 3 I had done in the past, 2 were a newbie cuties from Puebla, 1 of which I wouldn't tap because my balls had just been drained inside the other's butt for $20 + a $5 tip. She seemed content and handled it like a champ. I only wish I'd pulled out my camera for her gorgeous gapes. :( Really would like a 2nd round with her...
Good points guys.
By the way ,I am going down today since it is no longer going to rain. i will report on the alley situation a little later.
To save some more cash, I think I am going to take out money at my US bank for no charge, then change over to pesos at the border. They have cambios with "no commission" at the border when you first enter TJ.
Has anybody done this? I usually just use the HSBC ATM in TJ, but since you end up paying fees and plus the line is now long since Mexicans us it, too, wastes time.
TJ
In TJ right now using the computer in the shop on the block across from Aztec Massage on the same block as the HSBC.
The alley is in full force today since it is not raining but is expected to do so some this weekend.
I just had a session with Beatrice, the morena. I was her second and last of the day. Still a nice, tight, screw.
There is a nice young thing at the corner with Beatrice in a short skirt and panty hose. SHe acted like an ass when I walked up to her, but I had no intention of going with her anyway. I think perhaps Beatrice had already claimed me, because they were talking when I walked up, and this girl was trying to avoid me to avoid problems. After leaving Beatice I gave this girl the finger and called her some choice names anyway.
I used the cambio booth on the US side and got 10.09 for my dollars. This was less than the 10.65 advertised at the border on the Mexican side, so I suggest waiting until you cross the border and changing your dollars at the booth inside the turnstiles when you first enter the border. This is right behind where the Mexican border guard sits. In the zona, most cambios gave 10.09, too, so the 10.65 was best.
TJ
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]I used the cambio booth on the US side and got 10.09 for my dollars. This was less than the 10.65 advertised at the border on the Mexican side, so I suggest waiting until you cross the border and changing your dollars at the booth inside the turnstiles when you first enter the border. This is right behind where the Mexican border guard sits. In the zona, most cambios gave 10.09, too, so the 10.65 was best.
TJ[/QUOTE]
I've never noticed the San Ysidro right past the turnstyle trick of adding a zero after the decimal point. S.Y. has been running at least 10.8 at all cambios which is better than the 10.65 you got. Watch out for this trick of adding the zero after the decimal and you will do fine.
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]
Has anybody done this? I usually just use the HSBC ATM in TJ, but since you end up paying fees and plus the line is now long since Mexicans us it, too, wastes time.
TJ[/QUOTE]
With a Bank of America account you don't get charged fees for withdrawals at either Scotia Bank or Santander Serfin ATM's. They also give a better rate than the Casas.
I was disappointed that Viva Mex was still closed today.
Is Aztec a valuable alternative, and where is it exactly?
Today I got a nice cutie from the alley, just outside HK for $ 20 all included.
Aztec Massage is right off Revolution at the first corner you reach walking up Revolution from the border. If you are at the big arch, then you have about a block or two to walk up. This is a real busy intersection on Revolution.
i just noticed that Efayel posted an updated map in the TJ reports thread. Aztec Massage is at Av. Revolution and Benito Juarez.
I will have to look for those banks. Yeah, the adding a zero after the decimal is sneaky. Also, I think they confuse you with the buy-sell signs. They say they but at 10.9 and sell at 10.09 but what constitutes buying or selling?
I will bet they are ALWAYS selling, and thus give you the 10.09 rate whether you are changing dollars to pesos or vice versa!
Anybody in the alley today? It is supposed to rain this evening but one girl told me she actually makes more money when it rains, so I know there are some girls out there!
TJ
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]I will have to look for those banks. Yeah, the adding a zero after the decimal is sneaky. Also, I think they confuse you with the buy-sell signs. They say they but at 10.9 and sell at 10.09 but what constitutes buying or selling?
I will bet they are ALWAYS selling, and thus give you the 10.09 rate whether you are changing dollars to pesos or vice versa![/QUOTE]Buy my pesos at 10. 9 and they will sell you pesos at 10. 09 to the dollar. Man what a HUGE difference that is. Usually the buy/sell difference is around what. 2-. 3?
If they were to buy the pesos at the same rate everyone would make a killing by going back and forth to different casa de cambios that show different rates!
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]Aztec Massage is right off Revolution at the first corner you reach walking up Revolution from the border. If you are at the big arch, then you have about a block or two to walk up. This is a real busy intersection on Revolution.
i just noticed that Efayel posted an updated map in the TJ reports thread. Aztec Massage is at Av. Revolution and Benito Juarez.
Anybody in the alley today? It is supposed to rain this evening but one girl told me she actually makes more money when it rains, so I know there are some girls out there!
TJ[/QUOTE]
Thanks, I actually found it, by looking up, the sign on top of the building is huge..
I had to wait 30 min, probably due to the fact that Viba Mex has not yet reopened.
Quite weird experience, I got a young pretty masseuse, but she was dressed as if she was coming back from her daily shopping, blue jean, and jumper.. Quite young, not a word of english. I had kept my underwear on, but she made me understand that it would be easier to remove, it which I duly obliged. After the usual sesson on the tummy, I flipped over, and it was quite strange to think that my instrument was exposed.. She worked all around it, came close, but did not touch it. I had to concentrate not to show excessive interest. After it was finished, I had the impression that more could have been obtained, but neithdr her nor me knew how to go about it.
So my question is: Although it is considered fully legit, has anyone got some extra there?
Quote: Anybody in the alley today? It is supposed to rain this evening but one girl told me she actually makes more money when it rains, so I know there are some girls out there!
It only started raining by 5 pm, and the alley was full all day.
I spent most of my afternoon at HK bar, great fun .
Went to Tijauna last month during the rains, about Jan 2-3. There was definitely a cut in the amount of girls on the streets. The clubs also where slightly limited in quantity, but only by a little bit.
I went to Tropical and also got a streetwalker chick. The walker was located standing next door to the chicago club with a cool looking jacket on and some silver sparkle eye makeup on. She had a familiar face, so I might have seen her walking by the chicago club last time, but I couldn't be sure. So she may be a regular at that area or not.
It was the end of the night, and all I wanted was a BJ and to cum on a chicks face. So the girl quoted me 25 dollars for the deed, I said sure.
I don't know if I over paid, but I have not ran into girls that take facials.
So I go into the room and the girl just sticks my dick in her mouth with no condom. I guess BBBJ is common here, because the last few times I have been to tijuana all the girls have done it.
So the girl keeps her jacket on and all her clothes. I know this is the norm, but I thought maybe she would want to take some off so she wouldn't get cum on her clothes. So after a while of her BBBJ and ball sucking, I tell her to get into position. I unload on her face, and it gets all over her nice jacket too.
She goes to the bathroom to clean up, but not enough because her jacket is still stained. She is not mad or anything, just a days work. Great time.
Heading to TJ for a little fun on Monday night....is it possible to negotiate BBFS from a SW or one of the club girls? How much if so?
Dreams,
I have always known Aztec Massage to be totally legit., meaning no sexual services.
By the way, how much did you pay?
I will probably go there on Wed. to scope things out, too.
Man. The weather has sure cleared up. I wish I had gone to TJ, too.
thanks,
TJ
[QUOTE=DFWdude]Heading to TJ for a little fun on Monday night. Is it possible to negotiate BBFS from a SW or one of the club girls? How much if so? [/QUOTE]Yes it is possible. For the SG's, walk up and down Constitucion and ask around. IMO chances are less with the girls in the alley.
Then you can always go the walker route, usually the girls walking around, american sluts or Mex/American sluts booted off to tj. Usually can be found by the ice cream place on Constitucion or outside hotel Monitos. Monitos which is located to the left as you exit Chicago Club. Then again, they are for the most part "high risk", looking to hook up for their next fix of Meth or some H. $10-20 for these girls.
Club girls are easy as well IMO, but I do not include the AB girls in here as I do not like this place. For club girls, I don't negotiate the BB, it just happens, you lick them, get them horny whatever, and for the most part BB insertion will just happen. She will be the one wanting you to stick it in her without rubber. No negotiation, the standard fee. With negotiation prior some girls will agree for a "tip" or like an extra $20.
Cheapest route is just become friends with one SG and after awhile BB sex will just be a normal $15-20 session away. But you probably don't have time for that.
Easiest for BB - American cracked out ho's (I don't recommend)
Mid - Club girls
Harder - SG's
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]Dreams,
I have always known Aztec Massage to be totally legit., meaning no sexual services.
By the way, how much did you pay?
I will probably go there on Wed. to scope things out, too.
Man. The weather has sure cleared up. I wish I had gone to TJ, too.
thanks,
TJ[/QUOTE]
25 $ for 1 hour plus tip
Sounds to me a good plan is to bang an alley girl for $15-$20, plus 3-5, for the room, then get an hour massage for $25.
That is at the most $50, including a $5 tip at Aztec!
There are few places left in the world these days you can do all of that for that amount!
TJ
I would recommend for you to get the massage first. While the massage at Aztec is not overtly sexual, it can be rather sensual, and will really get you in the mood for what's about to happen in the alley.
Roguesta,
Good point.
I am going to TJ on Wed. and will let you all know how it turns out. After the massage, I am thinking about seeing Monica, who stands on the street across from the alley. She is short with brownish hair. Usually she is there from 11-4:30. Trust me, getting her at 4:15 is great! I have tried it numerous times and she is loose and wet, no lubrication needed by then!
Monica stands, see the map, on Constitution, on the side facing the alley, going south toward Art.123.
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TJ
[QUOTE=Roguesta]I would recommend for you to get the massage first. While the massage at Aztec is not overtly sexual, it can be rather sensual, and will really get you in the mood for what's about to happen in the alley.[/QUOTE]
I love hitting the Azteca for a full hour massage. Never sexual. I don't grab at the girls, because it's not worth it. I always get a different girl, everytime. Lately the girls have been HOT F"N HOT. So then after the massage I go looking for the equal in the zone and bang them good.
Where is Azteca massage compared to Adelitas???? How much for a non sexual massage....I will be in TJ tomorrow
[QUOTE=DFWdude]Where is Azteca massage compared to Adelitas???? How much for a non sexual massage....I will be in TJ tomorrow[/QUOTE]
Benito Juarez and revolucion. Free validated parking.
[QUOTE=Roguesta]I would recommend for you to get the massage first. While the massage at Aztec is not overtly sexual, it can be rather sensual, and will really get you in the mood for what's about to happen in the alley.[/QUOTE]
To each his own..but I prefer the massage in between sessions. Reason is that when I arrive in TJ , I am excited enough at the prospects, so I don't need any special treatement before my first session. However, in between sessions, I need recovery, and the massage puts me in the mood again.
I agree that the massage at aAztec, although non sexual,is quite sensual.
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]Sounds to me a good plan is to bang an alley girl for $15-$20, plus 3-5, for the room, then get an hour massage for $25.
That is at the most $50, including a $5 tip at Aztec!
There are few places left in the world these days you can do all of that for that amount!
TJ[/QUOTE]
Well, if you live in South California, I suppose, yes , this is quite a good deal.
But there are other places in the world as well, Bangkok, Singapore etc..(and South America, I suppose, although I personally have not been there)where service is at least as good, if not better, and prices lower...as long as you can go there!
Yes, living in SOCAL has its advantages.
Yesterday, I met up with Alizade, who stands near the Bar Turino, which is on the main street leading to the alley as soon as you hit zona norte.
$5 for room, $20 for short session. She looks a bit Asian is out there daily until 6pm. She normally wears jeans while most of the girls have on skirts. Thus being with her is more like having a regular Latino girl. Over the years I have never had problems with her even if I really give her a good banging. Some girls on the corner will push you off of them early if you are really going at it.
That corner is a place where many new girls start out. So you seem to have newbies and longtime girls such as Alizade.
You will see her standing on the corner right in front of a little alleyway behind her.
TJ
[QUOTE]The guys were just hanging around drinking in Adelita. Not too many guys were taking the chicas upstairs that I could see.[/QUOTE]I encountered a different scene when I visited the Adelita Bar between 9:30 p.m. and 1:00 a.m. on Friday, February 1. The selection of girls was excellent, and even better they were spread out around the club instead of being jammed together in Hottie Central. I think this is a good trend. When everybody forms a scrum in Hottie Central it's hard to get a good look at the girls, easy to spill your drink, and way too hot and stuffy.
There were also quite a few guys. It wasn't so insanely crowded that you couldn't move. But it was definitely a weekend crowd. I spent quite a bit of time standing near the entrance to the ladies room, enjoying a bit of space and the cool air coming in the front door. From there I could easily observe the girls as they grabbed their coats before leaving for the hotel, and hung them up after they returned. To my eye business was brisk, especially among the fresher looking girls, like the pair of blondes with the ultra-tight bodies who stand close to the front door. Proof positive that young, fit, attractive girls dressed in simple attire will always be demand, while older girls with extra pounds stuffed into outlandish hooker costumes will spend the evening standing around.
I don't patronize the street girls, so I can't comment on the scene in the alley.[QUOTE]Life in TJ is definitely less fun and festive than before...[/QUOTE]I respectfully differ. Granted, I don't get to the Zona Norte as often as I would like, but Friday, Feb. 1 the Adelita Bar seemed like it's old self to me, and there were enough hotties on hand that I had no trouble finding somebody I wanted to fuck.
Bunky
I liked the old place. Lots of secluded dark corners where you could squeeze the girls, more circulation routes, "hottie central" and all that. The new design is much cleaner, but when they took out the old, they took out the edge IMHO.
Country John
[QUOTE=Country John]I liked the old place. Lots of secluded dark corners where you could squeeze the girls, more circulation routes, "hottie central" and all that. The new design is much cleaner, but when they took out the old, they took out the edge IMHO.
Country John[/QUOTE]
Could not agree more! I really loved the place then. Donkey show atmosphere is gone, but they still have that a$$hole DJ ranting and screaming all that racist $hit.
Hong Kong on the other hand has gotten WAY BETTER with change!
That two girl show they had last Xmas was fantastic! And they were dancing on the bar and everything.
I have since been banished to Washington state for one year assignment.
I have a jerk of a boss in a cold and rainy state. HELP! PMs with advice are welcome.
Play small tricks on your boss. It'll lighten your spirits nicely.
As for "Hottie Central," I like sitting nearby it just to get a good and close look at the girls. I notice some of the hottest hang out there which is a good and bad thing. Good in that if you want some of the hottest, thats the only place you really have to look. But it's bad in that I'm a bit shy so I can't bring up the courage to go up to some of the girls there since they're all in a pack. It's kind of like seeing a group of hot chicks in a mall. You look, but you can't just go up and talk to them. I'd be nerve wrecking. It's basically the same feeling at hottie central. Only once I got a girl from hottie central, but there was only like three of them at the time. Wasn't too bad.
Back around the first few times I went, there was this one girl at hottie central that I really liked but I was afraid to approach her. I no longer see her anymore. It's a shame. I won't let that happen again.
[QUOTE=Naked Gunz]Could not agree more! I really loved the place then. Donkey show atmosphere is gone, but they still have that a$$hole DJ ranting and screaming all that racist $hit.
Hong Kong on the other hand has gotten WAY BETTER with change!
That two girl show they had last Xmas was fantastic! And they were dancing on the bar and everything.
I have since been banished to Washington state for one year assignment.
I have a jerk of a boss in a cold and rainy state. HELP! PMs with advice are welcome.[/QUOTE]What kind of racist stuff?
I prefer the old Adelita, too.
[QUOTE=Tjmee]What kind of racist stuff?[/QUOTE]
I dont know how it's spelled if it even matters..
Phonetically..MY-OT-TAY is the (N) word..he spits that every other word..
Mexicans are very racist. Try to get a regular chica in San Diego.
Her family would probably cut her t^ts off for banging you and disgracing
la familia..
Yeah, I've heard that guy say, "mayate" many times during his ranting and screamings and even while black people where there. He's also insulted white guys. Although, mayate is not really a bad word per-se. It really depends in the form you use it. Mayate is the name for a scarab or black beetle. Which is why its used to describe black guys. So saying the word isn't bad unless you're using it to reference a black guy. It's the same as calling a black guy a monkey. Since people use that as a derogative. Otherwise, mayate isn't a bad word. But then how many times do people ever talk about black beetles? So if you hear someone saying it, it's usually a reference to black guys.
I actually feel bad for black guys because Mexican girls don't really like black guys. Plus they're easy targets for the police. I've seen them being searched. Things kind of change once they are inside Adelitas since it's all business in there and I've seen some of them being treated nicely by some of the girls but usually the other girls who aren't near them will say some bad stuff about them. That's just the way Mexican girls where raised. I've talked to some of the girls and it seems they preffer guys of their own culture.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]That's just the way Mexican girls where raised. I've talked to some of the girls and it seems they preffer guys of their own culture.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for helping me make my point. We won't solve any problems
on a sex site. To get back on topic, the TJ SWs have always treated me quite well and I prefer them to the hardcore WG in Andelitas.
[QUOTE=Naked Gunz]Thanks for helping me make my point. We won't solve any problems on a sex site. To get back on topic, the TJ SWs have always treated me quite well and I prefer them to the hardcore WG in Andelitas.[/QUOTE]Yeah, there is some cultural aspect to this, but it extends to other Latinos of other countries too.
South Americans tend to turn up their noses at Mexicanos, who inturn like to look down on Central Americans. Seems like there's always a pecking order. It's why when you're in LA (South Central in particular) you'll see a ton of cars with national flags in the back window or on bumper stickers (or flying on antennae, like they're some dignitary).
I mean, I've never seen much animosity between Americans, Britons, and Australians, although the Aussies like to sh!t on Kiwis and Tazmanians.
And just seems anytime you get more than 10 chicas together in one place, they start to get catty (moreso than white women). Been to more than 1 party where the girls went at it after a few drinks. Of course us guys just sat back and watched for a bit.
pix pls...
[QUOTE=Efjayel]
I actually feel bad for black guys because Mexican girls don't really like black guys. Plus they're easy targets for the police. I've seen them being searched. Things kind of change once they are inside Adelitas since it's all business in there and I've seen some of them being treated nicely by some of the girls but usually the other girls who aren't near them will say some bad stuff about them. That's just the way Mexican girls where raised. I've talked to some of the girls and it seems they preffer guys of their own culture.[/QUOTE]
Actually, I am pretty sure white guys get stopped by the police more than black guys if anything. The police are out to get money from gringos and whites are actually easier targets. Personally, I have seen more than once the police stopping gringos on the way back to the border--blacks and whites--but releasing blacks quickly when some whites come up. The cops expect that they can get more loot from white guys.
And Mexican "hookers" do not LIKE any of us! It is just a reality that most customers in Adelitas are not black so the girls have come to accept white guys as their usual customers. This does not mean they LIKE you, only that they have accepted that to get money they will have to have sex with a lot of white guys.
Plus, there is again the cultural believe that white guys have more money, which is the object of Adelitas anyway. When I have been in Adelitas with black guys I know that they pay less because that is expected by the girls! Being seen with whites guys brings status because it means in their social group that you are getting more for your services.
But since we gringos are really in TJ to get laid by the best girls for the cheapest, I think black guys and any guy who can avoid the BS of paying top dollar has an advantage. For white guys it is much tougher to get a discount rate. Yeah, they chat up white guys more but that is because their is money involved. Stop paying top dollar and see how fast they lose interest!
TJ
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]Actually, I am pretty sure white guys get stopped by the police more than black guys if anything. The police are out to get money from gringos and whites are actually easier targets. Personally, I have seen more than once the police stopping gringos on the way back to the border--blacks and whites--but releasing blacks quickly when some whites come up. The cops expect that they can get more loot from white guys.
And Mexican "hookers" do not LIKE any of us! It is just a reality that most customers in Adelitas are not black so the girls have come to accept white guys as their usual customers. This does not mean they LIKE you, only that they have accepted that to get money they will have to have sex with a lot of white guys.
Plus, there is again the cultural believe that white guys have more money, which is the object of Adelitas anyway. When I have been in Adelitas with black guys I know that they pay less because that is expected by the girls! Being seen with whites guys brings status because it means in their social group that you are getting more for your services.
But since we gringos are really in TJ to get laid by the best girls for the cheapest, I think black guys and any guy who can avoid the BS of paying top dollar has an advantage. For white guys it is much tougher to get a discount rate. Yeah, they chat up white guys more but that is because their is money involved. Stop paying top dollar and see how fast they lose interest!
TJ[/QUOTE]Whenever I go there I'm a colombian not black or white and I usually blend in pretty well. I get AB girls for real low prices hehe.
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]
But since we gringos are really in TJ to get laid by the best girls for the cheapest, I think black guys and any guy who can avoid the BS of paying top dollar has an advantage. For white guys it is much tougher to get a discount rate. Yeah, they chat up white guys more but that is because their is money involved. Stop paying top dollar and see how fast they lose interest!
TJ[/QUOTE]
As far as the color thing goes, I can't speak for TJ, but, in many countries, Mexico included, skin color is a VERY important factor in how you are perceived and, sometimes, treated.
As far as money goes, there is no reason for anybody to pay top dollar. Negotiating in Mexico is a fact of life, and everybody does it. If you're not an a$$hole about it, and are polite, and don't quote ridiculous prices, you will get discounts. The ones that immediately lose interest aren't worth having. And, as a cutie in HK once told me, holding out for top dollar is stupid, cuz there are LOTS of other girls out there who ARE willing to negotiate.
PP
I have heard bunch of stories about rich mexican guys getting kidnapped for ransom in Mexico City (even the son of vicente fernandes the premier singer of mexico). I have also heard that this has picked up in TJ.
My questions are.
1. Do you know of first hand reports of this happening to gringos? If so where and when?
2. Anything we gringos can do to avoid this. 'pickup from the street' case?
[QUOTE=Adventur]I have heard bunch of stories about rich mexican guys getting kidnapped for ransom in Mexico City (even the son of vicente fernandes the premier singer of mexico). I have also heard that this has picked up in TJ.
My questions are.
1. Do you know of first hand reports of this happening to gringos? If so where and when?
2. Anything we gringos can do to avoid this. 'pickup from the street' case?[/QUOTE]
Here us thet info. Out of 40 million crossing in 2007 only 27 kidnappings and most of those had businesses in Mexico, several were Mexican Americans.
I doubt you will be kidnapped in the street girl area as the rateros know only los pobres go there.
[QUOTE=Ninguno Especial]I doubt you will be kidnapped in the street girl area as the rateros know only los pobres go there.[/QUOTE]
Umm, could you elaborate on that a bit more. I don't understand what you mean.
Los pobres, or poor people, means basically, in this case, mongers who go to Tijuana for cheap sex. If they're going to kidnap someone, they'll want to make that this person has lots of money and resources, because otherwise, what's the point? Haggling over $20.00 with a street girl doesn't put most of us in the category.
Oh okay, I was thinking about petty thiefs just looking to make some quick change and not about those trying to hold someone for a large ransom.
With the petty thieves, you have to watch out for a chokehold and a quick run through your pockets. Always be aware of your surroundings.
Weather report looks great, so I am going to do an afternoon in the alley.
I will let you know what I find down there.
P.S. Can somebody find out if Jackson will let us put the TJ map being completed by Ejyela (sorry about the spelling) in a permenant spot on this board?
TJ
I have been reading the post about Americans being attacked. For the record, I have being going to TJ for about the past 8 years and I have never had a problem. Why, because I follow a few simple rules which are:
1. Taxi in, taxi out. This is simple but it makes a big difference. When I arrive, I take a taxi for $5 to the Hong Kong club. When I leave, I catch a taxi from the Hong Kong club back to the crossing--simple but safe. By doing this, you avoid all the bullshit you would encounter if you walked between the crossing and the clubs.
2. I stay in the Zona area during the day. I get to the Zona around 11:30 am in the morning and I leave around 3 or 4 pm. I avoid all the night bullshit.
3. I never hassle with the girls, the general public there.
4. I dress down and I wear no watch or anything of value.
5. I keep back up money hidden and I keep only a few dollars in my
wallet. Therefore, when I pay for something there, if anyone looks, I only
have a few bucks.
6. MOST IMPORTANT, I don't talk shit to the cops. IF they should stop me,
I will comply with a smile. I have seen some Americans think they are still
in the U.S. and have an attitude with the cops. This will only make them more aggressive with you. Hey, TJ is a foreign country and we are guest there. I have also seen Americans in TJ get drunk and talk shit to the bar owners and the local Mexicans (while they have a nice watch on). Of course, you will most likely read about them in the U.S. newspaper after they have been attacked. But the paper will not tell you what the guy was doing before he was attacked.
I can say I have had more trouble in the U.S. then TJ. Keep in mind, the U.S. has one of the highest crime rate of any developed country. Yap, my suggestion is not to worry about TJ (if you follow a few simple rules) but watch your back in the U.S.
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]
P.S. Can somebody find out if Jackson will let us put the TJ map being completed by Ejyela (sorry about the spelling) in a permenant spot on this board?
TJ[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the request. If it is added anywhere, I was hoping it would be added to brockton's thread;
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2634[/url]
Although its not the final map. I plan to update the map, add more to it. But not until I make a trip to TJ and check out the exact locations of certain places.
[quote=undercoverh]i have been reading the post about americans being attacked. for the record, i have being going to tj for about the past 8 years and i have never had a problem. why, because i follow a few simple rules which are:
1. taxi in, taxi out. this is simple but it makes a big difference. when i arrive, i take a taxi for $5 to the hong kong club. when i leave, i catch a taxi from the hong kong club back to the crossing--simple but safe. by doing this, you avoid all the bullshit you would encounter if you walked between the crossing and the clubs.
2. i stay in the zona area during the day. i get to the zona around 11:30 am in the morning and i leave around 3 or 4 pm. i avoid all the night bullshit.
3. i never hassle with the girls, the general public there.
4. i dress down and i wear no watch or anything of value.
5. i keep back up money hidden and i keep only a few dollars in my
wallet. therefore, when i pay for something there, if anyone looks, i only
have a few bucks.
6. most important, i don't talk shit to the cops. if they should stop me,
i will comply with a smile. i have seen some americans think they are still
in the u.s. and have an attitude with the cops. this will only make them more aggressive with you. hey, tj is a foreign country and we are guest there. i have also seen americans in tj get drunk and talk shit to the bar owners and the local mexicans (while they have a nice watch on). of course, you will most likely read about them in the u.s. newspaper after they have been attacked. but the paper will not tell you what the guy was doing before he was attacked.
i can say i have had more trouble in the u.s. then tj. keep in mind, the u.s. has one of the highest crime rate of any developed country. yap, my suggestion is not to worry about tj (if you follow a few simple rules) but watch your back in the u.s.[/quote]
well, these simple rules will insure a good time.
i used to stumble confidently between revolution and zona norte half-buzzed and on a mission at 10pm, but i probably won't nowadays..that was the late 90's.
got caught peeing in a lot--20 bucks
driving with alchohol breath-40 bucks
my stupid friend shoplifted-40 bucks
wow! as i type i realize these infractions are kinda serious on this side of la linea!
anyway, my friend is right. i personally don't adhere to these rules all the time cause i'm not that disciplined.
[QUOTE=Undercoverh]I have been reading the post about Americans being attacked. For the record, I have being going to TJ for about the past 8 years and I have never had a problem. Why, because I follow a few simple rules which are:
1. Taxi in, taxi out. This is simple but it makes a big difference. When I arrive, I take a taxi for $5 to the Hong Kong club. When I leave, I catch a taxi from the Hong Kong club back to the crossing--simple but safe. By doing this, you avoid all the bullshit you would encounter if you walked between the crossing and the clubs.
2. I stay in the Zona area during the day. I get to the Zona around 11:30 am in the morning and I leave around 3 or 4 pm. I avoid all the night bullshit.
3. I never hassle with the girls, the general public there.
4. I dress down and I wear no watch or anything of value.
5. I keep back up money hidden and I keep only a few dollars in my
wallet. Therefore, when I pay for something there, if anyone looks, I only
have a few bucks.
6. MOST IMPORTANT, I don't talk shit to the cops. IF they should stop me,
I will comply with a smile. I have seen some Americans think they are still
in the U.S. and have an attitude with the cops. This will only make them more aggressive with you. Hey, TJ is a foreign country and we are guest there. I have also seen Americans in TJ get drunk and talk shit to the bar owners and the local Mexicans (while they have a nice watch on). Of course, you will most likely read about them in the U.S. newspaper after they have been attacked. But the paper will not tell you what the guy was doing before he was attacked.
I can say I have had more trouble in the U.S. then TJ. Keep in mind, the U.S. has one of the highest crime rate of any developed country. Yap, my suggestion is not to worry about TJ (if you follow a few simple rules) but watch your back in the U.S.[/QUOTE]
That about sums it up. Without a doubt, I would walk down the roughest, darkest street in TJ before attempting to do the same in Compton or South Central, LA.
These last few posts belong in the "Crime, Safety, and the Police" section; not the "Streetwalker Reports" (& alley girls).
[QUOTE=Phordphan]As far as the color thing goes, I can't speak for TJ, but, in many countries, Mexico included, skin color is a VERY important factor in how you are perceived and, sometimes, treated.
PP[/QUOTE]
Last Saturday I took a hottie up from AB. She is 19 and amazing!!! Not so much in extra service but looks and charm as well as a decent body and perfect tits. Anyway while she was giving me a BJ I had my one hand clasp behind my head for support as I watched and stroked her titties with the other.
At one point as she was giving me eye contact she noticed how white my under bicep area was. She stopped and almost gasp in awe as she exclaimed how beautiful my white skin is. LOL
That's a first and probably a last I will hear that one again...
lol, i doubt she thought it was beautiful but more of a freakish thing. I mean come on, the last thing she is going to do is admit it looks weird. Why else would it cause her to stop and look in awe?
[QUOTE=Efjayel]lol, i doubt she thought it was beautiful but more of a freakish thing. I mean come on, the last thing she is going to do is admit it looks weird. Why else would it cause her to stop and look in awe?[/QUOTE]
I can't speak for what this particular chica was thinking, but I did have a chica once exclaim "Que blanca" when I took off my shirt. Yes, white and pasty, IMO, but who knows in theirs? People with traditionally darker skin like lighter skin. We whiteys often dig darker skinned girls. And Mexicans, as a rule, are very color-concious.
I do know that virtually all the girls in SEA are daffy over light skin and spend oodles of money to make themselves appear lighter (and they think big noses and round eyes are sexy, too. Go figure). And plenty of Mexican chicks put lightening powder all over their faces to appear lighter. (All of this shows up quite well with flash photography if you don't believe me).
PP
[QUOTE=Phordphan]People with traditionally darker skin like lighter skin. We whiteys often dig darker skinned girls. And Mexicans, as a rule, are very color-concious.
I do know that virtually all the girls in SEA are daffy over light skin and spend oodles of money to make themselves appear lighter (and they think big noses and round eyes are sexy, too. Go figure). And plenty of Mexican chicks put lightening powder all over their faces to appear lighter. (All of this shows up quite well with flash photography if you don't believe me).[/QUOTE]Yeah, those pasty faces on pictures are annoying.
In SEA, the light skin color is perceived as a person of a higher economic and/or social class (ie, dark skinned people are thought of as laborers). So over time, that evolved into a measure of beauty as well.
In Mexico (and South America), light skin is highly thought of for Latinos as being closer to Spainish heritage, again a class issue. Personally, I think Castillan Spanish is painful on the ear, but I've heard several Latinas talk about how sexy or intoxicating it is to their ears. How can a lisp sound sexy???
Another factor is American movies, influencing perceptions of beauty worldwide, often to a much greater extent than here in the US. In countries like Venezuela, Argentina, etc a "cosmopolitan" attitude is prevalent, and the girls are much more into cosmetic surgery (if they can afford it) than in the US. And these are not "working" girls in the sex industry, but regular middle class girls. I know we have a lot of cosmetic surgery in the US, but check out some of the Columbian and Venezuelan girls working as dental hygenists or Xray technicians in LA and they're paying off multiple loans on various surgeries, oddly some they don't even need (or you'd notice the difference).
[QUOTE=Efjayel]lol, i doubt she thought it was beautiful but more of a freakish thing. I mean come on, the last thing she is going to do is admit it looks weird. Why else would it cause her to stop and look in awe?[/QUOTE]
Not this chica. She is obsessed by WHITE skin. I took a photo of her in the room and although her body is not really that tan she thinks she is too dark. As PP posted many chicas wear a lot of make up to try to lighten the facial skin color. The flash bounces off this in photos and they look ghostly compared to the natural skin color of the rest of their body.
This hottie also sports green contact lenses to go with her pale facial appearance. She told me she wishes she was really white. LOL
The whole white powdered face thing has declined around where I live. Mostly it was the young girls that would do this. And it was even more so true of the chola(gangster) girls. They would also pluck all their eyebrows then draw a line with makeup to accomodate for the loss. And it looked horrible. I don't know what they where thinking doing that crap. And you're right these grotesque features where enhanced ten fold with flash photography.
Some girls still do this but mostly I've seen a decline in this. Seems like natural beauty and less make-up is making a comeback. Thank god cause I love the natural look.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]And it was even more so true of the chola(gangster) girls. They would also pluck all their eyebrows then draw a line with makeup to accomodate for the loss. And it looked horrible.
Thank god cause I love the natural look.[/QUOTE]Definitely, a natural beauty with a little makeup to accentuate some beautiful features is just about right.
Problem is, some girls just look plain bad without their face all painted up. Ever see some of those non-makeuped Hollywood actress photos? They're down right scary at times!
Interesting E, about the Cholas. I didn't realize that was considered their look. Just thought it was a South Central look that came into style a while back. Yeah those drawn in eyebrows and black outlined lips is absolutely horrible!
It was a south central look for a while and still mostly is in gangster populated areas. But its changed to a less white powdered look to more colorful makeup variations. And yeah i forgot about the outlined lips. Even worse are the ones who outline fake lips to hide their fish lips. eww....
Just curious if any of you guys have experience with this SG whose name sounds like Procella -- sorry for my poor spanish. Saw her this past weekend, really nice. She walked into me in the alley, and started talking to me like a lady, offering a massage for 20. She is older though, not like those young girls standing along. But it's hard to tell her age. She's maybe 5' tall, slim, wearing a hat. Wish that I've taken a picture!
[QUOTE=Jkw Qrengn]Just curious if any of you guys have experience with this SG whose name sounds like Procella -- sorry for my poor spanish. Saw her this past weekend, really nice. She walked into me in the alley, and started talking to me like a lady, offering a massage for 20. She is older though, not like those young girls standing along. But it's hard to tell her age. She's maybe 5' tall, slim, wearing a hat. Wish that I've taken a picture![/QUOTE]
Sounds lick a free lance "walker" and 90% of the time they are trouble, no health card, will rob you if you don't watch it. Stick to the ones standing at their post who clock in and out of the same hotel and you will be fine. Even some of these are rip off bitches but not nearly as dangerous as the 'walkers'.
I just left the alley which was fairly slow. A number of street girls left after standing out there for an hour or two, some less.
On the corner where Beatrice and Lucy normally stand, there is a black girl (AMerican) out there. She has a really big butt and used to work in a club on Orange County. She can really shake it while you get it doggie. SHe is surprisingly tight and makes you come fast.
$15, 4 for the room.
TJ
[QUOTE=Ninguno Especial]Sounds lick a free lance "walker" and 90% of the time they are trouble, no health card, will rob you if you don't watch it. Stick to the ones standing at their post who clock in and out of the same hotel and you will be fine. Even some of these are rip off bitches but not nearly as dangerous as the 'walkers'.[/QUOTE]Yes, I remeber reading about warning of the "walkers" a while ago. But I thought they are mostly in the tourist area, such as Rev.
There were a decent number of girls during the weekend. Noticeably some of the famous hoties were absent, like Dulce and Paula. But there were also some new faces. And there was this local guy, young and speaks very good English, kept following me around trying to sell me "his" girls, or even any girl that I like. Quite annoying.
The bars were crowded at night. HK seems getting more attentions these days. And policia were everywhere.
Was that black girl a big girl? If so I saw her on New Years eve standing in a corner.
As for other street walkers, I too had some guy try to sell me some of his girls on the street with promises of massages. I just ignored the guy. On the opposite side of Niños Heroes as I was walking by, some young guy offered himself to me for $20 bucks. I just kept on walking. Since when are guys allowed to prostitute themselves in the Zona Norte?
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Was that black girl a big girl? If so I saw her on New Years eve standing in a corner.
As for other street walkers, I too had some guy try to sell me some of his girls on the street with promises of massages. I just ignored the guy. On the opposite side of Niños Heroes as I was walking by, some young guy offered himself to me for $20 bucks. I just kept on walking. Since when are guys allowed to prostitute themselves in the Zona Norte?[/QUOTE]
yes that is the black girl. And have you gotten any response about the map?
On another topic:
I was told yesterday that when it is slow and cold and girls are missing then the ones who are still out there are either just dedicated or getting PIMPED HARD!
The black girl said those girls you see out there in short skirts freezing in the cold are oftentimes getting seriously pimped out!
She informed me that many of the girls who stand on the corner of Ninos Heroes, just outside the alley are independents. That is why that corner is empty sometimes.
TJ
No word on the map thing. It's all right. I'm updating the map anyways. As for that black girl I don't think I would go with her. I'm not really into black girls and even less so when they're fat. But I admire that she seems to know whats really going on in the alley. Bet she'd be someone interesting to talk to.
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]...................On the corner where Beatrice and Lucy normally stand, there is a black girl (AMerican) out there. She has a really big butt and used to work in a club on Orange County. She can really shake it while you get it doggie. SHe is surprisingly tight and makes you come fast.
$15, 4 for the room...[/QUOTE]Is the US black chick kind of tall and pleasant ? She speaks French, Portuguese, as well as Spanish (so she says).
I have questions about the hotel next to Miami. I used that hotel once with a street girl I encountered. I believe they charged me like 4 dollars for the room, half an hour. Then when I was in Hong Kong, I went upstairs with a girl but we walked outside to the same hotel I used with the street girl but this time the guy charged me $12 dollars. Was I ripped off or is this normal? The guy will charge less for a street girl over a bar girl? How does he know who's who? And actually, isn't Hong Kong supposed to have its own hotel or does it use the one next to Miami?
[QUOTE=Efjayel]I have questions about the hotel next to Miami. I used that hotel once with a street girl I encountered. I believe they charged me like 4 dollars for the room, half an hour. Then when I was in Hong Kong, I went upstairs with a girl but we walked outside to the same hotel I used with the street girl but this time the guy charged me $12 dollars. Was I ripped off or is this normal? The guy will charge less for a street girl over a bar girl? How does he know who's who? And actually, isn't Hong Kong supposed to have its own hotel or does it use the one next to Miami?[/QUOTE]Well, their rate does fluctuate, used to be 5, recently becomes 6 or 5. 5 sometimes (60 peso they say). Never had 4 dollars though.- I know you're a good negotiator And I think they know who are CGs, and charge you more just for the reason that you're gonna pay the girls more I guess.
[QUOTE=Efjayel] The guy will charge less for a street girl over a bar girl? How does he know who's who? And actually, isn't Hong Kong supposed to have its own hotel or does it use the one next to Miami?[/QUOTE]
They know the SGs (street girls) as opposed to the BGs (bar girls). The SGs you rent for 15 min. and BGs for 30 min. Price has gone up at Cascadas Hotel now it is at least $5.50 or $6. for a SG short 15 min. session and my guess is $12 for 30 min. Same half hour rate applies if you take the SG for 30 min.
Here is some TJ ass action from last year.
[QUOTE=Ninguno Especial]They know the SGs (street girls) as opposed to the BGs (bar girls). The SGs you rent for 15 min. and BGs for 30 min. Price has gone up at Cascadas Hotel now it is at least $5.50 or $6. for a SG short 15 min. session and my guess is $12 for 30 min. Same half hour rate applies if you take the SG for 30 min.[/QUOTE]
You are absolutely correct about the timing (15m/SG vs. 30m/BG).
Current pricing is $25/hr, 50% less for 1/2 hr., 25% less for 1/4 hr.
PP
[QUOTE=Efjayel]I have questions about the hotel next to Miami. I used that hotel once with a street girl I encountered. I believe they charged me like 4 dollars for the room, half an hour. Then when I was in Hong Kong, I went upstairs with a girl but we walked outside to the same hotel I used with the street girl but this time the guy charged me $12 dollars. Was I ripped off or is this normal? The guy will charge less for a street girl over a bar girl? How does he know who's who? And actually, isn't Hong Kong supposed to have its own hotel or does it use the one next to Miami?[/QUOTE]
I also had to pay 12 $ for the room with a HK girl...so if you were ripped-off, so was I....
[QUOTE=Phordphan]You are absolutely correct about the timing (15m/SG vs. 30m/BG).
Current pricing is $25/hr, 50% less for 1/2 hr., 25% less for 1/4 hr.
PP[/QUOTE]
Honestly I can't remember if when renting the room with the SG I was charged for 15 minutes. Sure felt like it though cause they came knocking pretty quick. But I think I recall asking at the reception and they told me I was getting a half-hour. It was around 6 bucks. But then with the bar girl it was an automatic $12 bucks. I could be thinking of something else so maybe i'm wrong. Could someone actually verify this the next time they go?
[QUOTE=Efjayel] But then with the bar girl it was an automatic $12 bucks. I could be thinking of something else so maybe i'm wrong. Could someone actually verify this the next time they go?[/QUOTE]
It's been verified by both PhordPhan (below) and myself. What more do you want? LOL
[QUOTE=Ninguno Especial]It's been verified by both PhordPhan (below) and myself. What more do you want? LOL[/QUOTE]
The girl charged me $25 dollars. So basically a half-hour would be $50 bucks? Not much difference compared to a bar girl is it?
Hello fellow mongers out there,
It looks like you guys have been having lots of fun since I last entered a report. Well sorry I've neglected to enter my reports of the past couple of months. First my funds have been low and my computer broke down. On my last visits to TJ I've tried Chavelas, New York, Chicago, but none of them compare to HK and Adelitas. You simply can't get the same service that you get at these two bars. For me by far the best is HK, you get the turn on of a strip bar and depending on your taste you can get the girl you want to bang. And if you are on a budget like me you have your menu of Paraditas just outside of HK, and none of them older than 25.
Everytime I go to TJ, since am single am ready to bust a nut from the moment I get off the taxi. So first things first.
I get one of the Paraditas, since Gaby is MIA since before Xmas, last I banged her she told me she was going to Veracruz to see her family but would be back in Jan, I have not seen her since. Anyway there is this short brunette wearing the school girl outfit, with nice long legs, for her height, her name is Michele, that I've been eeying for a while, without a word I grabbed her hand and took her to the hotel, she was very nice, nicely tanned, all over and tan lines on her, very nice looks like those brazilian girls you see on the net, anyway we settled on $40 fully nude, mutual touching, playing around, nice long, but gentle oral and playfull with the twins, she said I was very big and to promise to be gentle (big turn on), so we started mish, she opened wide and guided me inside of her, and got into it, I think she came because she was grabbing my ass as I was fucking her, and we finished with her riding me cowgirl, I could have had more positions but I was ready to bust a nut since I saw her on the street, we had a really nice conversation and kissed good bye. And went to HK for a couple of cold ones.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]The girl charged me $25 dollars. So basically a half-hour would be $50 bucks? Not much difference compared to a bar girl is it?[/QUOTE]
No. Most street chicas can manipulate unsuspecting gringos into paying upwards of $50 or 60 per half hour less much less actual service than the average BG.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]The girl charged me $25 dollars. So basically a half-hour would be $50 bucks? Not much difference compared to a bar girl is it?[/QUOTE]
That's the "asking" price. You should be able to get it for less, or, if not, 1/2 hour session for no more than $30. That's about 1/2 of your average AB chica's bill. Just smile and negotiate a bit. Unless it's freezing cold outside, it's a buyer's market.
PP
actually, it was freezing cold that day. mostly i went with her just so i can finally try a street girl since up to then i've only been with bar girls. well the experience was horrible. first off, she didn't take off all her clothes. she did something with her panty hose that basically held it off to the side. said it was so she can get dressed quick when she was done. she was really young and looked even younger once i saw her naked perhaps ****. made me feel like a pervert. i tried conversating with her while in the room before we started but she really wasn't into talking. would give me quick and dry answers. one we got into it and i came, she got up before it even ended. and she was really cold when i tried hugging her and telling her bye.
it was horrible and very impersonal. i definitely wont try her or perhaps any street girl again. i like getting to know the girl before going to the room with her. can't really do this with a street girl.
[quote=efjayel]actually, it was freezing cold that day. mostly i went with her just so i can finally try a street girl since up to then i've only been with bar girls. well the experience was horrible. first off, she didn't take off all her clothes. she did something with her panty hose that basically held it off to the side. said it was so she can get dressed quick when she was done. she was really young and looked even younger once i saw her naked perhaps ****. made me feel like a pervert. i tried conversating with her while in the room before we started but she really wasn't into talking. would give me quick and dry answers. one we got into it and i came, she got up before it even ended. and she was really cold when i tried hugging her and telling her bye.
it was horrible and very impersonal. i definitely wont try her or perhaps any street girl again. i like getting to know the girl before going to the room with her. can't really do this with a street girl.[/quote]
i think your experience mirrors a lot of peoples'. so many of the pareditas talk a good game, but don't deliver upstairs.
the bottom-nude thing is standard, unless you negotiate for sin ropa. really weird, i know, but tit (this is tijuana).
i, too, like a bit of "getting to know you" beforehand. that's why i usually opt for 1/2 hour instead of the jump on/jump off 15 minutes. these quickies are almost, by definition, impersonal. sometimes spending an extra few minutes yakking with them downstairs *can* give you a clue to their performance upstairs, but not always. and i agree with your comments about the "too young" factor. there's something faintly disturbing about porking an 18 year old. (at least they claim to be 18)
while i've been lucky and not had a sg experience quite as dismal as yours, some have been similar. and most of the chicas have a lot more restrictions than the bgs (don't lick that, don't suck there). but there are good times to be had. your best bet is to find one that has potential, then repeat several times. generally the service gets better for "steady" customers. (but i guess that's true for most of the girls everywhere).
pp
[quote=efjayel]actually, it was freezing cold that day. mostly i went with her just so i can finally try a street girl since up to then i've only been with bar girls. well the experience was horrible. first off, she didn't take off all her clothes. she did something with her panty hose that basically held it off to the side. said it was so she can get dressed quick when she was done. she was really young and looked even younger once i saw her naked perhaps ****. made me feel like a pervert. i tried conversating with her while in the room before we started but she really wasn't into talking. would give me quick and dry answers. one we got into it and i came, she got up before it even ended. and she was really cold when i tried hugging her and telling her bye.
it was horrible and very impersonal. i definitely wont try her or perhaps any street girl again. i like getting to know the girl before going to the room with her. can't really do this with a street girl.[/quote]
i agree that for the most part, the street girl experience is extremely underwhelming and lame, but there are some gems in the alley that myself, as well as others, have posted about on here. take a little time to go back and read some previous reports for alley girl recommendations.
she probably didn't take off her clothes because that all has to be negotiated beforehand. stupid, i agree, but that just how it's done there. maybe she wanted 50 pesos extra or something.
as far as her being possibly ****, i highly doubt that, but you can always ask to see their cedula to confirm they are legal.
and as for feeling like a pervert, welcome to the isg, lol!
TJ is in TJ right now. First, I withdrew money from my bank (credit union coop atm, atually) before leaving, so there were no atm fees. THen when I walked across the borer I exchanged the money for pesos. I got 10.56 per dollar. So I saved a little cash by using pesos and using the cambio rather than the ATM in TJ where you pay an atm fee and foriegn country atm fee normally.
I then hit the alley where it was slow, but since this is Wed. that is normal. Monica, the sort girl with blond streaks in her hair was standing on Consitutioin on the side nearthe police station (see the map).
I paid $20 and $5 for the room. HOwever, I know she is cheating me by paying for the room herself and then getting 2 or 3 dollars back from desk.
But as normal she was nice and tight. I highly recommend her although she is a hustler.
TJ
[quote=efjayel]actually, it was freezing cold that day. mostly i went with her just so i can finally try a street girl since up to then i've only been with bar girls. well the experience was horrible. first off, she didn't take off all her clothes. she did something with her panty hose that basically held it off to the side. said it was so she can get dressed quick when she was done. she was really young and looked even younger once i saw her naked perhaps ****. made me feel like a pervert. i tried conversating with her while in the room before we started but she really wasn't into talking. would give me quick and dry answers. one we got into it and i came, she got up before it even ended. and she was really cold when i tried hugging her and telling her bye.
it was horrible and very impersonal. i definitely wont try her or perhaps any street girl again. i like getting to know the girl before going to the room with her. can't really do this with a street girl.[/quote]
i have been doing street girls for several years.....and it is "hit-and-miss." i would say that 60% of the time, the street girl experience is below ok and just a little bit better than bad. 40% of the time, i find a nice street girl and we have a nice time together. i keep a mental picture of her and when i am back in tj and see her again, i select her. i find this is the best way to approach the tj street action.
also, i do not expect too much when i am only paying $15 to $30 for a scuk, fuck, and cloths off. let's face it, this is cheap sex i never expect a gfe.
i have traveled a lot and the only place i have found a gfe on the cheap is thailand.
if i am in the mood for something more like a gfe, i head to the hong kong club. i have had several nice girls there in the range of $30 to $50 plus hotel cost. in the hk club, i am nice to all the girls, and they see i am a repeat customer....i find this is the best way they are willing to go to the hotel with me for under $50.
one girl at the hk club, don't recall her name, i have done her twice over the past few months. great bbbj, good sex, nice pussy and tits, i and pay $30.....but again, i am always nice to her when she is dancing on the stage and walking around the club for $1 pussy feels....... i always give her a few dollars. this shows that for the price of a street girl, you can have a club girl.......plus, you have a chance to get to know her a little (by sucking her tits for a dollar), and even feel the pussy to see if it will be a good fit.
: - )
for a quick fuck go to the alley, for a gfe hang out at the hk club.
You have to be a serious repeat customer in the alley to get GFE. These girls are taught not to get close to the customers.
But once they trust you things change quite a bit. I have one regular who takes it all off, rides me, does doggy, for $20 plus $3 for the room.
She always talks a while before and after, inquiring about my travels.
In the alley the girls seem more honest than in the bars. What I mean is that if they like you and know you then you get treated much better. Otherwise, they do not fake it.
I spend a lot of time in TJ, so I can be choosier in the alley. But one thing I always do when I am considering a new girl is see how she approaches me in the alley. The ones that come on to you sexually are usually BS'ing you.
The few that really smile and perhaps just talk to you when they see you usually turn out to be the keepers.
The BS'er take advantage of your being horny to lure you into the room for wasted $20 (plus room fee).
TJ
Thanks all the same but I think I'll stick with the bar girls. Maybe some time in the future I will actually try a street girl again. We'll see...
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Thanks all the same but I think I'll stick with the bar girls. Maybe some time in the future I will actually try a street girl again. We'll see...[/QUOTE]
I think the overall assessment here has been pretty accurate. I'm more of a GFE type, so I don't do SG's that often.
But, a friend's motto is "No GFE for me!" and he means it. So, he seems a lot happier in AB and the alley. To each his own...
PP
I agree with TJfanatic's assesment on this topic.
Some comments are:
1. I cannot get the 20$ GFE deal. I always have gotten 30 travellng to other hotel etc (HDS, Leyva, ...)
2. It needs something like 3 to 5 sessions for them to melt. but then it is great!
Hello all,
This is will be my first time going to Mexico. I'm looking forward to checking out some girls in Mexicali and Tijuana. My question: Streetwalkers and girls at bars and clubs do they charge small fee if I want to check out their ass and their boobs by grabbing them to see if I'm satisfy or will I get a slap in the face or they don't mind? I like to see what they are like and to see if I'm happy with them especially breasts, I love big or average size breasts preferably non silicone implants. Your help is much appreciate. I'm trying to read so much info its hard to keep up with them. Also any updates would be awesome too. I'm planning to be in Mexicali on April 11 for 3 nights then off to Tijuana for another 3 nights then back home in Canada.
It's fine to touch the bar girls as long as you have them sitting with you or depending on the bar, you'll have to tip them a dollar to cop-a-feel. As for the street girls, I really doubt they'll allow you to touch them while they are in the street. Some might but it just doesn't look right. I wouldn't do it.
Steve Austin1,
Do not touch the street girls in a sexual manner in public. And since this is your first time in TJ, you obviously do not know any of the street girls, so there is no reason at all that you should touch them in public. Mexico is a conservative country socially and the girls on the street tend to be more slanted towards Mexican standards than bar girls.
In fact, street girls often seem to create a fiction that they are not prostitutes. For example, many will not walk to the room with you. Instead, they walk quickly in front or slowly behind. So touching them sexually in the street will just reaffirm their prostitute status in a society which frowns on the trade.
But as long as you pay them you can touch them in private, of course.
The girls standing outside the bars often have on thongs and short skirts that let you see their butts. If act like a potential customer they usually let you catch a good look. A few have on no panties, too!
TJ
[QUOTE=Steve Austin1]Hello all,
This is will be my first time going to Mexico. I'm looking forward to checking out some girls in Mexicali and Tijuana. My question: Streetwalkers and girls at bars and clubs do they charge small fee if I want to check out their ass and their boobs by grabbing them to see if I'm satisfy or will I get a slap in the face or they don't mind? I like to see what they are like and to see if I'm happy with them especially breasts, I love big or average size breasts preferably non silicone implants. Your help is much appreciate. I'm trying to read so much info its hard to keep up with them. Also any updates would be awesome too. I'm planning to be in Mexicali on April 11 for 3 nights then off to Tijuana for another 3 nights then back home in Canada.[/QUOTE]
Canada eh? Welcome to Mexico! If you look closely you'll find a lot of similarities (but NOT in the Zona Norte of Tijuana or the Zona in Mexicali). I'm originally a Nova Scotia boy, and as I travelled in Mexico I was impressed at how similar Mexicans are to Canadians in many ways. Don't be shy in telling the girls you are from Canada, they will warm up much faster to you knowing that.
TJ Fanatics post is right on the money. Do not touch the girls that post in the alley in TJ or Mexicali, they are (for the most part) old school except for the young ones who don't give a fuck either way but probably have their boyfriends watching them as they work.
In the bar, when you buy the girl a drink, you fan squeeze her tits and in Mexicali, you need to visit MeauMeau Bar. The girls rotate between there, Monterrey, Culiacan and Guadalajara. You are CERTAIN to find something that you will want to take back to Canada with you, and all she needs is a passport --no visa is required!!
But be careful, you might fall in love and this old buy from down East will take 5 hours to get there to pull your ass out!!
Have fun, behave and be safe.
Country John
[QUOTE=Country John]
Mexicali, you need to visit MeauMeau Bar. The girls rotate between there, Monterrey, Culiacan and Guadalajara. You are CERTAIN to find something that you will want to take back to Canada with you, and all she needs is a passport --no visa is required!!
Country John[/QUOTE]
Could you elaborate on this a bit more?
Hello all
Thank you for the info and sights about it. I can't wait to go to Mexico. I've always find the girls in Mexico are very beautiful more beautiful than any other latin girls. I don't know why but for me I've seem to love Mexican girls, everytime I watch movies some of them are filmed in Mexico like Selena, Desparado, La Bamba. I love watching movies with latin actors in them like JL, Salma Hayek, Antonio Banderas, Michelle Rodiguez. When I get back from my trip I will write a report and let you all know about my first time to Mexico I assumming most of the girls quote in pesos eh?
O one more question for now. Beach how good are they and do I need to keep an eye on my stuff if Im in the water? ARe there lots of local girls try to pray on tourists at the beach too during the day or not and how big is Tijuana?
Not sure how big TJ is but my map covers the most popular area of TJ.
[url]http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/2448/tj2copyuc1.gif[/url]
And if you really like Latin girls then you're in for a treat. These girls at the bars, especially Adelitas are some of the most beautiful latin girls I've seen. They're not like the stereotypical hooker that looks wasted. Lots of these girls are young and fresh looking. Like those hot girls you see on the spanish channels. Personally, J-Lo, Salma Hayek and Michelle Rodriguez are not that high in my tier of hot latin girls. But some of these girls certainly surpass them. Not only are some of these girls very cute but have a smoking hot body. You'll see what I mean when you see them.
You're going to end up cursing the fact that you don't live closer to Tj and be able to get frequent access to it. I don't live that close to tj and in a way its good thing otherwise I'd be blowing my money there every weekend. But at least I don't have a whole country between me and this adult candy store. :D
[QUOTE=Steve Austin1]O one more question for now. Beach how good are they and do I need to keep an eye on my stuff if Im in the water? ARe there lots of local girls try to pray on tourists at the beach too during the day or not and how big is Tijuana?[/QUOTE]
Forget the TJ beaches. YOu gotta go a lot farther south for anything decent. And the water's pretty cold in the Pacific this time of year.
Official population is 1.5million in 2006. Some sources say the real figure is much higher.
PP
TJ in TJ right now.
Doing the usual WEednesday routine. The alley is slower than normal but still lots of girls out.
I pulled the black American girl again today. Paid $15, $3 for the room. No time limit in the hotels she uses. SHe talks to you a lot and provides good information on the TJ scence. She used to work in Adelitas a few years ago but goit tired of all the catty girls in there.
Her butt is really big and that helps you cum fast when you have her in doggie. She gets really wet too.
She stands on the corner of the alley on Nino Neroes.
TJ
[QUOTE=Steve Austin1] I assumming most of the girls quote in pesos eh?[/QUOTE]
Actually you'll find that most of the bar girls and even a good number of sg's quote in dollars.
Thank you all for the info. It really helps me and prepare. Any more suggestions and ideas please don't hesitate. Before I go I will be jolting down all the info and carry with me so I know the pros and cons and what to expect and least and to avoid or cause any trouble while I'm in Tijuana and Mexicali.
Unless you haven't done so already, read Brockton's Tj thread;
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2634[/url]
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Unless you haven't done so already, read Brockton's Tj thread;
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2634[/url][/QUOTE]Thats pretty cool, I've just finished reading the post and that really helps me out alot. I wil definately stick to those three locations. I've found a good site for map of the streets for Tiujana so Im going to print it out. [url]http://www.advantagemexico.com/tijuana/images/tijuana_map.pdf[/url].
I'm staying at this hostel in Tijuana Hotel Catalina and the address is
Emiliano Zapata, Zona Centro-Baja California.
Do you know if I'm very close to any of those bars?
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Unless you haven't done so already, read Brockton's Tj thread;
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2634[/url][/QUOTE]Hi Efjayel,
Thank you for the link that really helps me alot and very well information Brockton's report for new comers. I will have to write down the three locations and check them out. I'm staying at Hotel Catalina and the address is
Hotel Catalina
Emiliano Zapata
Zona Centro-Baja California
Tijuana
It says I'm right close to party zone, shopping and restaurants and border to the USA so thats pretty good place eh? Now I don't know exactly where in that area I am, I've found a useful map but I can't bother looking very closely at it because of too many streets to stare at. If any of you know where I am located how close am I to Hong Kong BAr, Chicago Bar and Adelita Bar? Your help is much appreciate.
Another question hopefully will be the last one unless you all don't mind helping me out, any chance of finding a pregnant girls like 7 or 8months pregnant the reason why I ask is they tend to have bigger breasts and they are naturals and I like big breasts but average size breasts like 36C I can accept but preferably bigger breasts would be nice so when they are pregnant their breasts tend to enlarge 2 or 3 times bigger than what they are?
Hey Efjayel
Thanks for the link, that really helps me alot now I can use that reference when I go to Mexico. I really look forward to visiting both cities for the first time. I'm staying at Hotel Catalina does anyone know how close I am to Chicago Bar, Hong Kong bar? Address is Emiliano Zapata Zona Centro-Baja California Tijuana.
Another question whats the chance of finding pregnant girls? The reason I ask is I like girls with nice big breasts and since girls get pregnant we all know their breasts tend to get bigger by 1-2 sizes bigger than what they were although I don't mind the average size of 36C but bigger is better.
Thanks for your help everyone. I look forward to writing my first post.
As stated few girls will quote in pesos. TJ is a border community so the people are well acquainted with US dollars. However, to save a few bucks you might want to pay in pesos as many of us here do.
Just remember to multiply by 10. So when the girl charges you $20, pay 200 pesos.
TJ
Hey Steve Austin, according to my Google search that hotel is Between 5th Avenue and Madero.
Basically its the cross streets of "Emiliano Zapata" aka 5th/C5A and "Avenida Francisco I Madero." aka Madero. It's very close to all the action. It's a bit of a walk to take a street girl to your hotel though. Like a 5 minute walk from the bar. But it's not big deal.
Apparently you missed the last time I posted this map for you(scroll down), but its a better map than the one you are planning on printing out. I made it myself. Let me know if you can find the streets I'm talking about.
[url]http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/2448/tj2copyuc1.gif[/url]
You wnat a pregger? Eww...
Lol, who am I judge?
Although, I don't think you can find pregnant girls in TJ who are ready and willing. I was with one girl though who had a kid recently. She was lactating and wanted me to suck them. I did, just a little though.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]
Apparently you missed the last time I posted this map for you(scroll down), but its a better map than the one you are planning on printing out. [/QUOTE]
The Hotel Leyva needs moved way North above Chicago Club don't ya think?
Hey Efjayel
I've found it. Yes I did notice your map but the one I found wasn't sure if my hotel was on your map cause this map showed the entire area so I will use yours since its better. Yeah it seems I'm just a bit south of the action bars of the 3 recommanded for me to go. I will print out the map that you gave me the link its pretty awesome. Now that something never thought about lactating girls. Never tried it but I hear its good. Like I said bigger the boobs the better as long its not way over their body proportion. Thanks again everyone. I think exactly 5 weeks to go then I'm off to Mexico?
What's the advantage in staying there? It's not in the zona so it's quiet but when I used to stay there it was a family hotel so even if a girl agrees to go with you back to your hotel which is unlikely due to the distance from the zona, the management might take a dim view of it.
[QUOTE=Ninguno Especial]The Hotel Leyva needs moved way North above Chicago Club don't ya think?[/QUOTE]
Umm, what?
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Umm, what?[/QUOTE]
On your map link a few posts down, you show Hotel Leyva on Revolucion South of Ceasers. The hotel is adjacent to Chicago Club on Constitution.
Hey Reinaldo
The reason why I picked that hotel is because its very cheap for me to stay. I'm on very tight budget right now because I want to make sure I have plenty of cash for taxi ride, food and the girls. It said I'm close to restaurants, shopping and party zone so I figure ok I'll take that place. It suppose to be hostel.
I'll make sure I pay the girls pesos not dollars.
[QUOTE=Ninguno Especial]On your map link a few posts down, you show Hotel Leyva on Revolucion South of Ceasers. The hotel is adjacent to Chicago Club on Constitution.[/QUOTE]
I'm not advertising the hotels next to the bars cause those aren't exactly rooms people should be staying overnight in. I'm mostly doing the big hotels. As for the name of these hotels, I'm just going by what was written on the outside of the buildings and I'm pretty sure I read "Hotel Leyva" on Revolution. Maybe the hotel next to CC is also called Leyva?
[QUOTE=Steve Austin1]Hey Reinaldo
The reason why I picked that hotel is because its very cheap for me to stay. I'm on very tight budget right now because I want to make sure I have plenty of cash for taxi ride, food and the girls. It said I'm close to restaurants, shopping and party zone so I figure ok I'll take that place. It suppose to be hostel.
[/QUOTE]
If you're on a tight budget my advice would be to avoid the regular taxi cabs and take buses and route taxis. If you don't have a lot of luggage you can walk to the Hotel Catalina from the border. I've done so and it's perfectly safe during the day.
[QUOTE=Steve Austin1]Hey Reinaldo
The reason why I picked that hotel is because its very cheap for me to stay. I'm on very tight budget right now because I want to make sure I have plenty of cash for taxi ride, food and the girls. It said I'm close to restaurants, shopping and party zone so I figure ok I'll take that place. It suppose to be hostel.
I'll make sure I pay the girls pesos not dollars.[/QUOTE]How much do they charge per night? I think there is a Hotel Enva across the street costs only $20+ per night. You may want to check it out.
[QUOTE=Steve Austin1]Hey Efjayel
Thanks for the link, that really helps me alot now I can use that reference when I go to Mexico. I really look forward to visiting both cities for the first time. I'm staying at Hotel Catalina does anyone know how close I am to Chicago Bar, Hong Kong bar? Address is Emiliano Zapata Zona Centro-Baja California Tijuana.
Another question whats the chance of finding pregnant girls? The reason I ask is I like girls with nice big breasts and since girls get pregnant we all know their breasts tend to get bigger by 1-2 sizes bigger than what they were although I don't mind the average size of 36C but bigger is better.
Thanks for your help everyone. I look forward to writing my first post.[/QUOTE]Some mongers find pregnant women disgusting or repulsive. To each his own.
I have some encounters with pregnant women in TJ. To be honest with you, IMHO, it is more difficult to find them let's say in Nuevo Laredo or Jarez. A good start is when you get there is do recon and get human intelligence. I have found if you discreetly ask around, you would be surprised. Most of the girls do not want others to find out.
Another way to get more info is to look on TJ boards. You may want to ask around.
Are you visiting the weekend of April 11-13?
Hey Redd55,
Thanks for the info. No I will be coming down on Monday April 14 for 3 nights but before that I will be down on Friday April 11 in Mexicali for 3 nights then off to Tijuana. I wish I can stay a bit longer.
Hey Jkw Qrengn,
I'm paying $20.00 a night too. In Mexicali I couldn't find anything cheaper than 50.00 a night. So I took it.
[QUOTE=Steve Austin1]Hey Jkw Qrengn,
I'm paying $20.00 a night too. In Mexicali I couldn't find anything cheaper than 50.00 a night. So I took it.[/QUOTE]
I agree you won't find lodging for $20 in Mexicali but you can for $35.
[QUOTE=Steve Austin1]Hey Efjayel
Thanks for the link, that really helps me alot now I can use that reference when I go to Mexico. I really look forward to visiting both cities for the first time. I'm staying at Hotel Catalina does anyone know how close I am to Chicago Bar, Hong Kong bar? Address is Emiliano Zapata Zona Centro-Baja California Tijuana.
Another question whats the chance of finding pregnant girls? The reason I ask is I like girls with nice big breasts and since girls get pregnant we all know their breasts tend to get bigger by 1-2 sizes bigger than what they were although I don't mind the average size of 36C but bigger is better.
Thanks for your help everyone. I look forward to writing my first post.[/QUOTE]
Just for info, I was at the HK bar, I think it was in May last year, and one chick was probably 4-5 months pregnant. She was touring the bar, and offering her beautiful heavy breasts to all for fondling, for 1 Dollar. I asked her about going to the rom, but she smiled and said no... For one dollar,that was a feast to be repeated...She made a lot of money just doing these rounds
Hit the alley yesterday around 3pm. Beatrice, the morena, was out there. She normally leaves at 3 so I was her last. It was really slow for the girls yesterday as many Mexicans were leaving TJ for the holiday. I may have been Beatrice's first customer all day!
The alley should be good for mongers today, too, as many customers will not be around. One white girl working down there told me she was so broke she would do me for $10!
TJ
[QUOTE=Dreams]Just for info, I was at the HK bar, I think it was in May last year, and one chick was probably 4-5 months pregnant. She was touring the bar, and offering her beautiful heavy breasts to all for fondling, for 1 Dollar. I asked her about going to the rom, but she smiled and said no... For one dollar,that was a feast to be repeated...She made a lot of money just doing these rounds[/QUOTE]
Dude, you where feeling up some girl in front of her kid, how could you!
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Dude, you where feeling up some girl in front of her kid, how could you![/QUOTE]
I can see you are just being jealous!! And BTW, we were quite a number enjoying the opportunity!
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Dude, you where feeling up some girl in front of her kid, how could you![/QUOTE]I'm sorry but I just had to laugh at this.
$35 for a street chick for a half hour worth it?
I believe the usual going rate is $30 for 15 minutes. So I'd say yeah. Just make sure they are talking about a half hour and not 15 minutes. Also ask if it means fully naked otherwise they might keep some clothes on and ask for more money to take it all off. You should also ask how many positions they will allow and if certain acts will be done. Otherwise they might ask for more money. If anything, a street girl can end up costing the same as a bar girl when wanting full sex, bj and multiple positions.
On 15 minutes:
The usual going rate is still $20 for gringo-types. $30 is actually a bit too much, though still reasonable. If a girl quotes $30 DO NOT TAKE IT. Walk around a bit and then come back because she will accept $20.
On the other hand $35 for half-hour is fine for a gringo. However, in reality a regular gringo or a Mexican pays $40 for an hour on the street.
Do not let this get you down on TJ. The girls charge less or more based on their "prejudices." They believe tourists have more money, so they charge you more.
TJ
Don't pay more than $20 for 20mins, $3-5 hotel with the alley girls, or you're just contributing to raising prices.
As stated. Know what you're getting ahead of time too. Just straight sex. Most clothes on. Everything else is negotiable, If they think you want it, it will cost more so negotiate ahead of time. Before you pay them or the room.
[QUOTE=Tjmee]$35 for a street chick for a half hour worth it?[/QUOTE]
Depends on what she looks like. There are "street chicks" you couldn't pay me to fuck.
Ok I think I did fine, 35 fully nakes all positions no anal.
Anybody on the street today? I am thinking of leaving work early and hitting the alley.
Since it is Good Friday, I was wondering what the scene was like.
TJ
In Tj right now. Hit the alley at about 2:30pm and it was fairly live. I met up with Beatrice, the morena, on the corner of Hero Ninos. Had a session for $20, $3, for the room. bareback BJ, doggie, etc. Totally nude, too.
I withdrew funds from my bank's ATM and then changed to pesos in TJ. One trick I now know is that you should use the cambios inside the Mexican side of the border, but NOT those on the Revolution/alley side.
Use the cambios close to the border but on the Mexican side. On Revolution or in the alley they will try to trick you with the rates and then take a commission. You still come out better than using an ATM, but why bother.
The ones close to the border are giving nearly 10.5 exhange rate today.
TJ
Noticed a couple of new girls in the alley this past saturday night. One of which was kind of big; when you make that right turn onto the alley like you're coming from AB; and walk down about 20 feet, she stands just inside the breeze way of a hotel(on the right). She's big but nice big breasts and cute face. I had just finished my third girl for the night and was headed home. Has anyone been with her? I've never been with a fat girl/might give her a try next time I'm down there.
Jay
No, I have not seen the big girl in that vicinity. There are a few big girls in that area during the daytime. I do not go to TJ at night all that much anymore but will soon to see what is going on.
I have been with the big butt black girl and have learned that one trick with big women is to get it doggie style but just let it slide in and out of her. I used to try to ram it to all women but now know that at least with the big ones you can just relax and let the big butt do all the work. Basically, their butts jiggle if you just barley stroke. In a few minutes you are about to cum!
TJ
Hi Nero X,
Could you provide more info on the streetwalkers of hotel monitos? or ice cream place on constitution? Usually I post in the LA section where I do my mongering. Recently I heard from a local pimp who I've known for many years that, a street girl I know went to TJ working as a hoe. Not sure if there's such place in TJ where american hoes hang out. Please provide some detail info if you know. Also, how old are the hoes? and do local hotels allow you to bring those hoes in with you? Will be going down to TJ in a week or two, and hoping to get connected with the known hoes from LA in TJ. Please provide direction of where these hoes can be found.
You sure ask a lot of questions.
First off I'd preffer you didn't call them "hoes."
Second, all the questions you asked have already been answered in previous threads. I suggest you search. But as a briefer I'll explain a few things.
American girls do in fact work in Tj and some are even walkers that walk around the alley and other bars. But these are usually the girls you want to avoid. They can be crackheads, have std's, be rip-off bitches and just about everything else imaginable. Not all though, so its really up to you to take the risk. There isn't many "American girls looking for good times to make money" in Tj. Tj is mostly latin girls. If you really want American girls, try craigslist.
Someone mentioned that there is SG named Yvonne back in 2005...? She is probably gone by now, but just wondering..?
"She's a tall Chica outside the Najera. She very pretty and gives good head. She has a killer body, like you care and should be willing for $20"
[QUOTE=Efjayel]You sure ask a lot of questions.
First off I'd preffer you didn't call them "hoes."
Second, all the questions you asked have already been answered in previous threads. I suggest you search. But as a briefer I'll explain a few things.
American girls do in fact work in Tj and some are even walkers that walk around the alley and other bars. But these are usually the girls you want to avoid. They can be crackheads, have std's, be rip-off bitches and just about everything else imaginable. Not all though, so its really up to you to take the risk. There isn't many "American girls looking for good times to make money" in Tj. Tj is mostly latin girls. If you really want American girls, try craigslist.[/QUOTE]
Street Hoolum,
I agree with the above post in general.
Exactly, it makes little sense to go to Mexico to meet American women! It makes even less sense to travel from LA to Mexico!
And, except for the big black girl working in TJ, you are well advised to stay away from any American girl in the alley. They are in TJ for a reason and it is not just to make some money on the street through prostitution.
These girls are often hiding out from US authorities, hooked on drugs, etc.
TJ
Your right, its whoores with an scottish accent.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]You sure ask a lot of questions.
First off I'd preffer you didn't call them "hoes."
[/QUOTE]
Thanks to TJ and CJ,
No, my main reason is not to look for any american girls working in TJ, but a specific girl that I knew from the past where she used to work in LA. I got in contact with her pimp recently and heard that she has other pimp now and relocated to TJ for less harassment from Po Po's. I've used the escort agencies in TJ many times in the past and the experience was very good. I just got to find this particular girl from LA or else I'll just stick to the escort agencies. Girls from CL's are usually high rates and demand up front cash. Many do practice up-sell so that your total damage can run as high as 3-4 hundreds. In addition, many local pd's run sting op off the CL's and believe me, many got caught doing so. Certainly do not want to be in that situation. By the way, the place where I grew up usually called street girls "Hoees", with the pronounciation of O much longer :)
[QUOTE=Street Hoolum]Thanks to TJ and CJ,
No, my main reason is not to look for any american girls working in TJ, but a specific girl that I knew from the past where she used to work in LA. I got in contact with her pimp recently and heard that she has other pimp now and relocated to TJ for less harassment from Po Po's. I've used the escort agencies in TJ many times in the past and the experience was very good. I just got to find this particular girl from LA or else I'll just stick to the escort agencies. Girls from CL's are usually high rates and demand up front cash. Many do practice up-sell so that your total damage can run as high as 3-4 hundreds. In addition, many local pd's run sting op off the CL's and believe me, many got caught doing so. Certainly do not want to be in that situation. By the way, the place where I grew up usually called street girls "Hoees", with the pronounciation of O much longer :)[/QUOTE]
Girls who re-locate to TJ usually find out the hard way that the game is much different especially if they try to sell from the Zona. The girls who post regularly and especially the cops know everyone and they have no difficulty with making life tough for a new-comer who trys to horn in on the action. Especially now that times are tight. (No pun intended.)
For the girl, the challenges are different but no less dangerous and the cops and the girls are no strangers to violence. The girl has to be prepared to accept a different set of risks.
If she has set up with an apartment, or arranges to meet the monger for action at his hotel then things should be fine.
If she walks in the Zona, she walks in the valley of drama and risk. Not knowing ht rules can be a serious problem for her.
If she makes peace with the "powers that be," then all is good.
Country John
I went with this one WSW in the zone about 3 years ago. She was a scammer. It just does not make sense for a american SW to work in TJ when she can charge more in the US.
[QUOTE=Country John]Girls who re-locate to TJ usually find out the hard way that the game is much different especially if they try to sell from the Zona. The girls who post regularly and especially the cops know everyone and they have no difficulty with making life tough for a new-comer who trys to horn in on the action. Especially now that times are tight. (No pun intended.)
For the girl, the challenges are different but no less dangerous and the cops and the girls are no strangers to violence. The girl has to be prepared to accept a different set of risks.
If she has set up with an apartment, or arranges to meet the monger for action at his hotel then things should be fine.
If she walks in the Zona, she walks in the valley of drama and risk. Not knowing ht rules can be a serious problem for her.
If she makes peace with the "powers that be," then all is good.
Country John[/QUOTE]
This actually brings up a good few questions that I've kind of been wondering for a while. How does a regular girl become a street girl? I'm not talking about what leads her to the life, I'm curious as to how she gets her place in the alley. Like where does she go to get the health card? How does she get her standing post? And once she gets it, is she allowed to move? Where do they go when they need to use a restroom? And are the street girls allowed to go into the clubs?
[QUOTE=Efjayel]This actually brings up a good few questions that I've kind of been wondering for a while. How does a regular girl become a street girl? I'm not talking about what leads her to the life, I'm curious as to how she gets her place in the alley. Like where does she go to get the health card? How does she get her standing post? And once she gets it, is she allowed to move? Where do they go when they need to use a restroom? And are the street girls allowed to go into the clubs?[/QUOTE]
There is no blanket answer as it varies from girl to girl, hotel to hotel and padrote to padrote (pimp) but in general.
* They interview at various hotels till finding one they like needing girls.
* There are always some vacant spots for them to stand and it is agreed after talking to other chicas and hotel mgr where their spot is. They cannot move from the spot without telling the hotel and clearing it with chicas surrounding the new area.
* Health cards are at the clinic a couple of blocks plus West of Adelita Bar near the HDS hotel. They need to visit this place for tests every 3 or 4 weeks to keep card current.
* They use the rest room in the hotel they work out of.
* Most are allowed to go into clubs if the padrote let's them which is rare. Most hate the clubs due to drunks and smoke so they have no desire to go in. Very few will venture in to have a drink with you maybe 5% if that. Some do go to the Karaoke Bar to sing and drink. It is just East of the Ice Cream store corner.
All right, thanks for the answers.
I've thought about asking some of the chicas personal questions as to how their life led them to this road. But I figure it's personal information that most would either not want to say or I would not want to know. And its possible would end up feeling bad for them to a point that sleeping with them for money would make me feel as being part of the problem rather than the solution.
I'm sure 99% of the girls there would rather have respectable jobs. I've meet some chicas who do this not because of desperation to feed their kids or have no other choice, but because its easy money. Some of those are American girls basically taking business away from the other girls. One of those girls that I met, surprisingly lived only a few streets away from me some years back. I never saw her though. I thought she was lying at first so I asked her to name some of the streets, stores and restaurant locations around me and she knew them all.
First of all, thanks to all members who shared and continue to share their detail informations. I will be going down to TJ sometime next week. This particular american girl is in her mid-30's. I've known her when she was 20 years old and lost contact with her until last year. I will post information after coming back from TJ.
By the way, you do need a passport or a driver license accompanied by birth certificate or neutralization certificate with you when you're coming back. Unless you look totally like an american, talk like an american, walk like an american, and act like an american, or else you'll be sent to the secondary inspection for further questioning. Look, went with couple friends down to TJ last month and 1 idiotic friend forgot to bring his passport thinking he's american born so that a driver license is good enough. Well, he was questioned for more than 1 hour with us waiting outside the exit door. He's very polite and not even acting like a jerk. I guess it is up to the ICE / CBP to decide whether they are boring enough to harass you or not.
Anyways, if you have passpor then bring it with you. If you don't have it, then atleast apply for it and keep the receipt with you when you're going down to TJ. Showing them a receipt for applying US passport beats getting detain for several hours, let alone the humuliation cast upon you.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]All right, thanks for the answers.
I've thought about asking some of the chicas personal questions as to how their life led them to this road. But I figure it's personal information that most would either not want to say or I would not want to know. And its possible would end up feeling bad for them to a point that sleeping with them for money would make me feel as being part of the problem rather than the solution.
I'm sure 99% of the girls there would rather have respectable jobs. I've meet some chicas who do this not because of desperation to feed their kids or have no other choice, but because its easy money. Some of those are American girls basically taking business away from the other girls. One of those girls that I met, surprisingly lived only a few streets away from me some years back. I never saw her though. I thought she was lying at first so I asked her to name some of the streets, stores and restaurant locations around me and she knew them all.[/QUOTE]Ya I didn't know at first, but theres a lot of girls from socal area that work in tj. Especially the younger chicks.
Why bother? Just withdraw money from any ATM in Tijuana. Most of them work, except late at night sometimes. You get the exact rate exchange without having to communicate with any teller who might rip you off. The ATM are super easy to use. I don't speak spanish and I've managed to use them without any problems countless times over the last 15 or so years.
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]In Tj right now. Hit the alley at about 2:30pm and it was fairly live. I met up with Beatrice, the morena, on the corner of Hero Ninos. Had a session for $20, $3, for the room. Bareback BJ, doggie, etc. Totally nude, too.
I withdrew funds from my bank's ATM and then changed to pesos in TJ. One trick I now know is that you should use the cambios inside the Mexican side of the border, but NOT those on the Revolution/alley side.
Use the cambios close to the border but on the Mexican side. On Revolution or in the alley they will try to trick you with the rates and then take a commission. You still come out better than using an ATM, but why bother.
The ones close to the border are giving nearly 10.5 exhange rate today.
TJ[/QUOTE]My post just before this one was refering to this quote.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]
I've thought about asking some of the chicas personal questions as to how their life led them to this road. But I figure it's personal information that most would either not want to say or I would not want to know. And its possible would end up feeling bad for them to a point that sleeping with them for money would make me feel as being part of the problem rather than the solution.[/QUOTE]
It's the same story in almost every country you visit. Single motherhood is, virtually, a sure-fire ticket to poverty. Couple that with the need to care for a parent and/or siblings, and you suddenly need more money than you may be able to earn with a limited education and no social/class standing. So, unless you're the one who knocked 'em up and left 'em, you're probably not part of the problem. In fact, it may be your civic and humanitarian duty to assist them in making a living!
I saw a hilarious T-shirt last week, walking down the street in suburban Bangkok. An older lady was wearing it. It had the silhouette of a sexy pole dancer. The caption said "I support single moms." :)
BTW, an interesting exception to the rule is Vietnam. All the chicks I ran into were in their early to mid-20s. NONE of them had kids and were rather surprised I asked. Seems it's still a major social blunder to have a kid without a husband. So, these young ladies redefined the word "tight!"
PP
I can not wait to return to TJ. Been there many times and always enjoyed shopping for the alley girls. I have had many that were very kind if I treated them with some respect. I learned to always make sure we both agreed on what I wanted prior to the trip to the room. I really liked morning shopping the best cause sort of supply and demand. I have also bought them a taco and talked to them first which has adde to my pleasure.
[QUOTE=Tjmee]Ya I didn't know at first, but theres a lot of girls from socal area that work in tj. Especially the younger chicks.[/QUOTE]
It's called MONEY. These girls (if they behave) can retire at 30. So the motivation is there because of the earning power but for most, the thing that makes them "cross the line" is also called money -lack of. I never met one that was in it because they loved having sex with greasy smelly old men.
Girls with kids and no options beyond living in poverty chose to cross the line and get into the sex trade because of the earnings potential despite the tremendous risks and potential family problems. Many will tell you that they are from a place far away but many are in fact locals. Heck, you'd be surprised how many chicas who live/work in San Diego come across to the Zona for a weekend of fast cash.
They have a kid or three with a "no responsibility" father, or they are simply the victim of bad decision making. Girls in Mexico really do have a tougher time getting ahead and self supporting through normal means (education, carreer ladder stuff etc.) than guys.
Some are just greedy and can't wait to get out of school or off work to get to the Zona and make some REAL money. They want to buy them big tits, get their teeth fixed, buy that house for mom, maybe a car, clothes, take care of the baby etc. We all know how expensive women are to support.
Whatever their reasons are, it's not important to you, the monger, except that they are clean and you wear a condom. The fact is they are there and you are going arriba with 'em. Just remember to be nice to them. Be respectfull as you glam slam your way to the head-board, they are people too.
Be safe and Be Nice
Country John
[QUOTE=FunFunFun69]Why bother? Just withdraw money from any ATM in Tijuana. Most of them work, except late at night sometimes. You get the exact rate exchange without having to communicate with any teller who might rip you off. The ATM are super easy to use. I don't speak spanish and I've managed to use them without any problems countless times over the last 15 or so years.[/QUOTE]
My last post was a continuation of previous posts. The point is that if you are not a Mexican, you pay a foreign ATM fee, plus the Mexican bank's ATM fee, plus the withdrawal fee from your bank.
My post said I withdrew money from my bank, no fee. Then went to Mexico where I exchanged the money. Since the dollar is worth more than the peso, you get back more than you had always.
Example, US $40, becomes 420 pesos.
using an ATM your $40 really becomes $37 at the most after fees.
What I was telling people was that taking US cash and then using the cambios near the border as you first walk in yields the BEST exchange rate. You actually MAKE money!
Regardless of whether you get "cheated' the way I did last time by using a cambio near the redlight district you STILL are not paying ATM fees that relegate the advantageous exchange rate to nothing.
My point is that for a US$40 withdrawal, I get 420 pesos to the 370 most guys get using ATMs.
TJ
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]My last post was a continuation of previous posts. The point is that if you are not a Mexican, you pay a foreign ATM fee, plus the Mexican bank's ATM fee, plus the withdrawal fee from your bank.
TJ[/QUOTE]
ATM fees are not based on your nationality. Some US banks don't charge fees for withdrawals from certain Mexican ATMs. For example I have a Bank of America account that allows me to make no fee withdrawals from Scotia Bank or Santander Serfin ATMs.
[QUOTE=Reinaldo]ATM fees are not based on your nationality. Some US banks don't charge fees for withdrawals from certain Mexican ATMs. For example I have a Bank of America account that allows me to make no fee withdrawals from Scotia Bank or Santander Serfin ATMs.[/QUOTE]Agreed. I was never charged with any ATM fees in Mexico. Not from down there, and not from my bank (wells fargo, and a local credit union).
In many countries, especially the US, they DO charge foreign ATM fees now. US banks began doing this a few years ago, which actually led to a lawsuit and a settlement.
So, yes, nationality does play a part because if you are a US citizen living in the US you probably have a US bank as your home bank and thus usually have to pay this fee.
Plus your post says fees are not based on nationality then you go on to say SOME banks! That would be like you saying airline frequent flyer miles are not linked to one airline because SOME airlines have a partnership.
Finally, your post does not in any way add to the discussion. The question posed was why making a withdrawal at your home bank and then changing over to pesos was better that using an ATM. Your post just adds to the confusion for guys who have not read the majority of my trip reports. Basically, you guys can take Reinos. advice if you want and hope your bank does not charge all the fees. Regardless, the main point I made and still make is that YOU WILL PAY ATMS of some sort. Whether or not you get charged a foreign service fee is not germane to the ultimate point. My way you get NO FEES FOR SURE AND SINCE THE DOLLAR IS MORE THAN THE PESO YOU COME OUT AHEAD!
So
Are we clear on that point?
And I went to google and just typed in atm foreign fees and decided to post the first article on them so that people will no I am not making them up:
[url]http://www.travelfinances.com/blog/index.php/2006/07/14/atm-foreign-fee-vs-atm-foreign-transaction-fee/[/url]
TJ
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]In many countries, especially the US, they DO charge foreign ATM fees now. US banks began doing this a few years ago, which actually led to a lawsuit and a settlement.
So, yes, nationality does play a part because if you are a US citizen living in the US you probably have a US bank as your home bank and thus usually have to pay this fee.
Plus your post says fees are not based on nationality then you go on to say SOME banks! That would be like you saying airline frequent flyer miles are not linked to one airline because SOME airlines have a partnership.
Finally, your post does not in any way add to the discussion. The question posed was why making a withdrawal at your home bank and then changing over to pesos was better that using an ATM. Your post just adds to the confusion for guys who have not read the majority of my trip reports. Basically, you guys can take Reinos. advice if you want and hope your bank does not charge all the fees. Regardless, the main point I made and still make is that YOU WILL PAY ATMS of some sort. Whether or not you get charged a foreign service fee is not germane to the ultimate point. My way you get NO FEES FOR SURE AND SINCE THE DOLLAR IS MORE THAN THE PESO YOU COME OUT AHEAD!
So
Are we clear on that point?
And I went to google and just typed in atm foreign fees and decided to post the first article on them so that people will no I am not making them up:
[url]http://www.travelfinances.com/blog/index.php/2006/07/14/atm-foreign-fee-vs-atm-foreign-transaction-fee/[/url]
TJ[/QUOTE]
My 2 centavos...
TJF is correct. Most banks in the US do charge foreign transaction fees. I've been wading through the paperwork to get a refund based on the class-action lawsuit concerning these fees.
In my case, Wells Fargo, they ding me a $5 FTF for each ATM withdrawal. I got dinged on several withdrawals in my recent trip to Thailand and Vietnam.
TJF is correct in that if you're going to spend pesos (and you generally come out a little ahead if you do), then exchanging USD for MXP is more financially sound than using the foreign ATMs. The same goes for other foreign travel. I usually take most of my spending money in $100 bills when I travel, then exchange them for local currency in the destination country. You may not get quite as good a rate as the banks give, but you save the FTF, so you come out ahead.
The only flaw in TJF's plan is that you will, inevitably, wind up with left over pesos. It's no problem if you visit TJ regularly. If visits are infrequent, it's best to use dollars, cuz you're gonna get screwed when you change the pesos back to dollars.
PP
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]In many countries, especially the US, they DO charge foreign ATM fees now. US banks began doing this a few years ago, which actually led to a lawsuit and a settlement.
So, yes, nationality does play a part because if you are a US citizen living in the US you probably have a US bank as your home bank and thus usually have to pay this fee.
Plus your post says fees are not based on nationality then you go on to say SOME banks! That would be like you saying airline frequent flyer miles are not linked to one airline because SOME airlines have a partnership.
Finally, your post does not in any way add to the discussion. The question posed was why making a withdrawal at your home bank and then changing over to pesos was better that using an ATM. Your post just adds to the confusion for guys who have not read the majority of my trip reports. Basically, you guys can take Reinos. advice if you want and hope your bank does not charge all the fees. Regardless, the main point I made and still make is that YOU WILL PAY ATMS of some sort. Whether or not you get charged a foreign service fee is not germane to the ultimate point. My way you get NO FEES FOR SURE AND SINCE THE DOLLAR IS MORE THAN THE PESO YOU COME OUT AHEAD!
So
Are we clear on that point?
[/QUOTE]
Don't put words in my mouth. I'm not telling people to blindly make ATM withdrawals in Tijuana in the hope that they won't be charged fees. I just pointed out that your BLANKET statement was incorrect and I gave you a specific example.
I agree that if your US bank charges fees it's not worth it to make ATM withdrawals in Tijuana and that is what I did until I found out that some banks do not charge ANY fees for withdrawals from select Mexican ATM's and B of A is one of them.
And here I've heard that BofA(bank of America) charges for all ATM transactions that aren't BofA ATM's. They now trying to compete with Wamu?
This is really a subject for another thread but since it is already going...From personal experience, I can confirm that Merryl Lynch charges 2% for foreign transactions. But Charles Schwab puts it in writing that they do not charge any such fees and pledges that if clients are ever charged them, they will return them to the account holder.
[QUOTE=Supermonger2]This is really a subject for another thread but since it is already going...From personal experience, I can confirm that Merryl Lynch charges 2% for foreign transactions. But Charles Schwab puts it in writing that they do not charge any such fees and pledges that if clients are ever charged them, they will return them to the account holder.[/QUOTE]
Shall we rename this thread: "ATM" ?
The solution to ATM charges is to open an account at HSBC online, get a free online checking account and they throw in an ATM card that they honor without charge at any one of their brances worldwide. They are big in Mexico of course.
You can't make deposits to your account from within Mexico, but your ATM card is good to go without fees. Check it out.
Country John
I'm with bofa as well and knew about santander but I didnt know about scotia. Thats good to know that I have 2 options.
[QUOTE=Reinaldo]ATM fees are not based on your nationality. Some US banks don't charge fees for withdrawals from certain Mexican ATMs. For example I have a Bank of America account that allows me to make no fee withdrawals from Scotia Bank or Santander Serfin ATMs.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dreams]Shall we rename this thread: "ATM" ?[/QUOTE]Yes, I vote to move the ATM guys to another corner of their own! we bring cash and do not care about he ATMs.
Way off thread for way too long!
Hey it can't all be about chicas, otherwise the conversations get boring. ;)
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Hey it can't all be about chicas, otherwise the conversations get boring. ;)[/QUOTE]
To each is own, but I find conversations about ATMs even more boring than chica's related talk!!
[QUOTE=Dreams]To each is own, but I find conversations about ATMs even more boring than chica's related talk!![/QUOTE]
Chicas - ATMs, they go hand in hand (if the ATM had a hand).
I talk to guys all the time about how to minimize the risk of losing ATM cards in TJ. There are many ways to fix the problem. It's important that members read Brockton's guide. It's a long read, true. It is well written however and the info is correct.
I happen to like girls more than ATM manchines myself but, just as it is important to know the cost of doing business in the Zona, it's important to understand the mechanism behind getting the money to pay for it.
Be safe and be nice.
Country John
[QUOTE=Dreams]To each is own, but I find conversations about ATMs even more boring than chica's related talk!![/QUOTE]Who would even consider using an ATM in Mexico or near mexico? Not me I would not want any evidence that I had been there for several reasons. On my 2-3 trips a year I bring cash only. I build up 500-600 in spending money over time and use that. Maybe I can save $5-10 converting it to pesos but I have never done that. But leaving a trasnaction record is a non starter for me. I pay for everything in cash. Including the room at the Travelodge that I usually stay at.
So does Brockton's guide mention that ATM's in Mexico have a fee if your ATM card is International? And does it mention about easily creating an HSBC account to save on those fees? How about the safety precautions taken into wanting to exchange dollars into pesos? If not, that stuff should be in there.
Who cares about transaction fees when you run out of money in TJ and have a hot chica back at the bar more then willing to go upstairs with you?
ATM's are a very important topic and should be covered in the Tijuana section, although many guys are "cash only" customers.
The point I want to cover is many guys from other site seem to be taken advantage at ATM machines. They can't understand the simple Spanish instructions or have some type of other problems, and soon enough some local Mexican offers to help after seeing you punch in your password, and then makes a switch with your ATM cards after you allowed him to help you.
Just like in America, don't let anybody close enough to read what your punching in, if they are too close ask them to step back, or let them go first, and don't let anybody touch your card.
Went to TJ yesterday. There were lots of girls in the alley around 6-7pm. Apparently things are really slow as for as costumers are concerned. I went with a chica I have known for awhile but not one of my longterm regulars.
In the room she asked for $25, claiming all the girls have gone up.
I gave it to her after sex and walked out of the room, ignoring her attempts at small talk. I will never bother her again.
Basically, I think $20 for straight sex in the alley is enough and anything more is too much. I got taken because I did not set the price beforehand and because this girl was crooked.
It will feel good ignoring her from now on!
Oh, yeah, I took only $40 US with me and got 410 pesos, plus I had 100 pesos left over from the last time I took out $40 US and changed over (see earlier report). Yesterday, I had sex, ate at Macdonalds and still have 200 pesos left. Before I started using pesos I never left TJ with money left over. And now that I avoid the ATMS in TJ and just change the money at a cambio I am doing even better!
TJ
[QUOTE=Pokey]Who cares about transaction fees when you run out of money in TJ and have a hot chica back at the bar more then willing to go upstairs with you?
ATM's are a very important topic and should be covered in the Tijuana section, although many guys are "cash only" customers.
The point I want to cover is many guys from other site seem to be taken advantage at ATM machines. They can't understand the simple Spanish instructions or have some type of other problems, and soon enough some local Mexican offers to help after seeing you punch in your password, and then makes a switch with your ATM cards after you allowed him to help you.
Just like in America, don't let anybody close enough to read what your punching in, if they are too close ask them to step back, or let them go first, and don't let anybody touch your card.[/QUOTE]
Stick to the HSBC and BanaMex atms near Revolution. Both of these machines are in English.
TJ
[QUOTE=Efjayel]So does Brockton's guide mention that ATM's in Mexico have a fee if your ATM card is International? And does it mention about easily creating an HSBC account to save on those fees? How about the safety precautions taken into wanting to exchange dollars into pesos? If not, that stuff should be in there.[/QUOTE]
True. Also, have you gotten any feedback on placing your map at a permanent place on this board?
Country Juan sent the info to Jackson(board admin) but has yet to hear anything. :(
Thursday night, the action was slow as Christmas Day. Between the US economy, high gas prices and reports of robbery, Gringos are staying away. Only about a third of the regular girls were out and few were busy. Paola and Edith are back and Nancy still gives the strongest sin las ropa twenty dollar BJ from a fox on the street.
Most girls were lowering prices, not raising them.
I was in TJ the Thursday before last. I did notice a small drop in the number of SGs but it was not significant still plenty of pussy still wanting $20 dollars and wanting to up charge you later if you didn't negotiate before hand. In fact those US mongers who use to take advantage of the exchange rate when the SG said $20 dollar instead give her 200 pesos or the equivalent of about $18 dollar and change, now only get a savings of about 50 cents or $19.50 due to the weakening dollar.
I didn't go into AB or CC as I usually don't like those bars, but I did hit Hong Kong, and it wasn't too busy but they did still have plenty of white and Asian mongers, however the girl talent was off. I then hit the Miami/LA Chavelas and those bars were jumping, standing room only and almost impossible to get a seat as they had a good live band going, and the chicas......they had plenty of girls for the taking proving Tijuana's zona can survive without American sex tourist, however I don't think the sex tourist will abandon TJ over a few stories about shootings, housing prices, and gas prices. Fucking sex providers is more than just an expensive hobby like golf, and being a sex industry worker is ALMOST a recession proof business. although business and income can fall a little. Real mongers don't use their discretionary income who doing hookers.......they use the same money they use to buy food with, as fucking providers is a necessity they must have......well at least it is to us addicted mongers.
I didn't go around checking the prices the chicas were asking. I do know I paid $25 for an SG naked and all positions, and $60 dollars at LC for a nice BG.
But it has been my experience in TJ that the BGs/SGs use chica economics.......meaning they don't use regular economics of supply and demand to come up with prices. They instead use some unknown variable that doesn't make any sense except to them, and that sometimes means they increase prices when the club is dead with very few customers IMHO.
Miami/LC was jumping with locals cause they had a pretty popular norteno/type band playing there that night I think. The banners for the band was stretched across sg alley. The locals do come out in force for things like bands/festivals.
[QUOTE=Supermonger2] Only about a third of the regular girls were out and few were busy. Paola and Edith are back and Nancy still gives the strongest sin las ropa twenty dollar BJ from a fox on the street.
[/QUOTE]
Thanks for getting us back on topic. I'm familiar with Paola and Nancy but not Edith. Does she work out of the Eduardo also?
[QUOTE=Reinaldo]Thanks for getting us back on topic. I'm familiar with Paola and Nancy but not Edith. Does she work out of the Eduardo also?[/QUOTE]
Edith is the lanky 19 year old morena with long wavy hair and killer ass. There is no mistaking her.Usually wears tight pants to show it off. Very sweet with great attitude. Her and Paolo used to offer a $60 double team special when they were buddies last year but since Edith was putting a dent in Paola's overall business, they don't talk anymore--same with Nancy.
I took a few Sgs who I've known over the years out to dinner and every one of them was griping about how bad business was. They were all aware of the reasons. They were also very curious about diet and exercise.
[QUOTE=Supermonger2]They were also very curious about diet and exercise.[/QUOTE]
What do you mean? They where asking you for diet tips?
[QUOTE=Efjayel]What do you mean? They where asking you for diet tips?[/QUOTE]
Yes. They are the typical cute little single mom's fighting the pouch that doesn't seem to go away. Most of these SGs, if you get to know them, can be very sweet but it takes a long time to get them to go have a meal together. These chicas in particular, I have known for several years and never hosed.
[QUOTE=Supermonger2]Yes. They are the typical cute little single mom's fighting the pouch that doesn't seem to go away. Most of these SGs, if you get to know them, can be very sweet but it takes a long time to get them to go have a meal together. These chicas in particular, I have known for several years and never hosed.[/QUOTE]
For many of these girls, the problem is not their body; it's the clothes. I had the same problem with my girl, pouchy front end, tire in the midsection etc. When sin ropa, she looked fantastic.
I took her out and bought her some properly fitted jeans etc and she looks fantastic. No more big pouchy gut hanging out over her belt line etc.
The girls like to wear the tight TIGHT pants to show off their ass and panocha but they force everything up in the process. Sure, the girl might be a few pounds overweight but unless you are talking 10 or 20 pounds then it's just compression from the clothes. Check them out sin ropa.
Another reason their pouch won't go away is because Doctor Happy Blades sliced them up real well on baby day, now they don't have proper muscle control in their abdomin anymore and can't exercise properly. They can't tighten their mid section because they don't have muscle control anymore. Very sad.
Country John
[QUOTE=Country John]For many of these girls, the problem is not their body; it's the clothes. I had the same problem with my girl, pouchy front end, tire in the midsection etc. When sin ropa, she looked fantastic.
I took her out and bought her some properly fitted jeans etc and she looks fantastic. No more big pouchy gut hanging out over her belt line etc.
The girls like to wear the tight TIGHT pants to show off their ass and panocha but they force everything up in the process. Sure, the girl might be a few pounds overweight but unless you are talking 10 or 20 pounds then it's just compression from the clothes. Check them out sin ropa.
Another reason their pouch won't go away is because Doctor Happy Blades sliced them up real well on baby day, now they don't have proper muscle control in their abdomin anymore and can't exercise properly. They can't tighten their mid section because they don't have muscle control anymore. Very sad.
Country John[/QUOTE]
Also there is a huge issue of bras in Mexico. Sometimes they go from one extreme to the other with aggressive push-up versions to overly confining, several sizes too small. When the latter unbuckled the straps---surprise, surprise de las chi chis muy grande!
[QUOTE=Country John]Another reason their pouch won't go away is because Doctor Happy Blades sliced them up real well on baby day, now they don't have proper muscle control in their abdomin anymore and can't exercise properly. They can't tighten their mid section because they don't have muscle control anymore. Very sad.
Country John[/QUOTE]
Wait... what? You're trying to say that most of these single moms had c-sections? I know of only one that had a c-section. It's so apparent on her tummy, the scar. Actually I'm not really sure if its a scar from a c-section or from a tummy tuck. Either way, it's pretty apparent.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Wait... what? You're trying to say that most of these single moms had c-sections? I know of only one that had a c-section. It's so apparent on her tummy, the scar. Actually I'm not really sure if its a scar from a c-section or from a tummy tuck. Either way, it's pretty apparent.[/QUOTE]
Yeah. Lots of girls get the "C" section or, in the case of girls from the back country, the "I" section which is a vertical cut from the butcher doctor who could probably care less about how the girl will do later in her life.
Country John
Avoid this SW: Young, thin and pretty with long dark hair and stands in front of the restaurant next to Cascades starting late afternoon and leaves after one or two tricks. She's friendly on the street but a total starfish in the room and does her damnest to make certain that you don't enjoy her. Booked her for the $40 package, strip, suck, fuck and positions but after a minute of weak sucky without spitting out her gum, she laid on her back and said "hurry up, we only have two more minutes." Also said that her name is Hillary...yeah I know, I know...
[QUOTE=Supermonger2]Also said that her name is Hillary...yeah I know, I know...[/QUOTE]
I've read posts from a guy on another board that does street girls a couple of times per week and gets high mileage. He said she was great and gave him the complete menu, no restrictions. He has repeated several times so it just goes to show YMMV. Your mileage may very.
[QUOTE=Ninguno Especial]I've read posts from a guy on another board that does street girls a couple of times per week and gets high mileage. He said she was great and gave him the complete menu, no restrictions. He has repeated several times so it just goes to show YMMV. Your mileage may very.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the info. Could you please provide a link to the other post with that review? So far, two other experienced mongers described her as I did and we are wondering what the secret to success with her is. I've been hanging on that particular street for several decades and usually have far better luck than most when it comes to prompting better performances. I am always looking for new methods.
I have been busy at work but will hit the alley today around 5pm.
Today I will see what I can get for $15 tops!
TJ
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]I have been busy at work but will hit the alley today around 5pm.
Today I will see what I can get for $15 tops!
TJ[/QUOTE]
No problem to get many for $15 but tops usually remain on (no titty play). LOL
[QUOTE=Hizark21]Someone mentioned that there is SG named Yvonne back in 2005...? She is probably gone by now, but just wondering..?
"She's a tall Chica outside the Najera. She very pretty and gives good head. She has a killer body, like you care and should be willing for $20"[/QUOTE]
DAMN, haven't thought about her in a while. Hizark? brown skin girl? I always knew you'd come around. She got snatched up and is some PLM's girlie.
Spent about four hours in TJ on Wednesday afternoon. I arrived in SD at about 10:30 and was over the border around 11:00. Parked at the hotel/church next to the JIB at the border. $4 for an 8 hr stay.
Grabbed a cialis at the pharmacy right as you enter TJ. Took it and walked into the zona. AB was open with about 15 girls available, but nobody that really tripped my trigger. Walked around and at the corner of Constitucion and Coahuila (same side of Constitucion as CC), saw three SGs wearing plaid schoolgirl skirts. Picked up an 18 yr old named Diana. Diana was pretty, friendly, and active. 20 for sin ropa, multiple positions, and didn’t rush to the conclusion.
I walked back to Av. Revolucion to recharge. Had three tacos at a stand about two blocks down Av Revo, but can’t remember the name (little stand with the grill open to the street, just past the KFC). Three tacos and a coke for $4 US. Not bad.
Went back to the alley, found another pretty thing named Alexandra. Another pretty girl, short, nice rack. She says she has a two year old baby. She stands just across from HK. We agreed on $20 plus $3 for the room for CBJ, sin ropa, two positions. Since I had already popped once, I needed a little extra time to finish again. Alex mentioned the extra time and I offered $5 until I finished. She countered with $10 plus another 3 for the room and I accepted. Alexandra was fun and friendly, talking dirty and moaning relatively convincingly the whole time. Took another 10 minutes or so before I finished. When she went to get change for the $20 I gave her for the extra, I expected to get back $5 or so. She gave me back full change and I paid her the extra $10 ($30 total for about a half hour). I never ended up paying the extra for the room.
Took another lap just to view the chicas. Diana approached me again when I passed her and asked if I would buy her and her friends an ice cream at the stand on the corner. I told her in my very bad Spanish that I would do so, but I expected her to be a little extra nice when I return tomorrow. She laughed and said yes, so we’ll see.
So, 12 for the little orange helper, 4 for lunch, 4 for parking, 25 for first pop, 33 for the second. 3 for ice cream for las chicas, $81 for two pops and a couple hours of fun, including walking around Av Revo--and maybe a little extra when I return tomorrow. Not bad for a day's play.
[QUOTE=Desertratco]Spent about four hours in TJ on Wednesday afternoon. I arrived in SD at about 10:30 and was over the border around 11:00. Parked at the hotel/church next to the JIB at the border. $4 for an 8 hr stay.
Grabbed a cialis at the pharmacy right as you enter TJ. Took it and walked into the zona. AB was open with about 15 girls available, but nobody that really tripped my trigger. Walked around and at the corner of Constitucion and Coahuila (same side of Constitucion as CC), saw three SGs wearing plaid schoolgirl skirts. Picked up an 18 yr old named Diana. Diana was pretty, friendly, and active. 20 for sin ropa, multiple positions, and didn’t rush to the conclusion.
I walked back to Av. Revolucion to recharge. Had three tacos at a stand about two blocks down Av Revo, but can’t remember the name (little stand with the grill open to the street, just past the KFC). Three tacos and a coke for $4 US. Not bad.
Went back to the alley, found another pretty thing named Alexandra. Another pretty girl, short, nice rack. She says she has a two year old baby. She stands just across from HK. We agreed on $20 plus $3 for the room for CBJ, sin ropa, two positions. Since I had already popped once, I needed a little extra time to finish again. Alex mentioned the extra time and I offered $5 until I finished. She countered with $10 plus another 3 for the room and I accepted. Alexandra was fun and friendly, talking dirty and moaning relatively convincingly the whole time. Took another 10 minutes or so before I finished. When she went to get change for the $20 I gave her for the extra, I expected to get back $5 or so. She gave me back full change and I paid her the extra $10 ($30 total for about a half hour). I never ended up paying the extra for the room.
Took another lap just to view the chicas. Diana approached me again when I passed her and asked if I would buy her and her friends an ice cream at the stand on the corner. I told her in my very bad Spanish that I would do so, but I expected her to be a little extra nice when I return tomorrow. She laughed and said yes, so we’ll see.
So, 12 for the little orange helper, 4 for lunch, 4 for parking, 25 for first pop, 33 for the second. 3 for ice cream for las chicas, $81 for two pops and a couple hours of fun, including walking around Av Revo--and maybe a little extra when I return tomorrow. Not bad for a day's play.[/QUOTE]
Nice trip report. Very nice.
[QUOTE=Ninguno Especial]No problem to get many for $15 but tops usually remain on (no titty play). LOL[/QUOTE]
Went down to TJ this morning. I went with Beatrice, the morena in the alley for $20, $4 for the room. No problems as usual.
The alley was full of girls this morning and the weather is nice. I would suggest going down on Thursday morning/afternoons.
Plus, the borderline only took 15 minutes.
TJ
I ran into an interesting girl in the street Thursday. I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with her. I think she's a semi-pro for reasons I'll explain.
I don't remember her name. She was standing at the corner of Coahuila on the AB side of Constitucion. She was dressed all in sweats, top and bottom with the hood pulled up. Pretty, kind of shy smile. My first guess of her age was about 16 (I passed her up because of this). When I was walking by the first time, she was talking to a 55+ yr old man (her 'pimp'?). It looked like she was getting tips on how to pick up guys. When I walked around again, I revised my guess on her age to about 20. I approached her and asked why she was dressed as she was. She showed me her tummy and bra under her shirt ("flashing me," as it were). She had her hood up, but took it down to show short, page-boyish, hair. She looked OK (and of age), so we went up. We settled on 20 for sin ropa and multiple positions.
When we got the room, i engaged her in some small talk. She said she was 24 and had been in the streets of TJ for 6 years. She had a centerline belly scar which looked like a caesarean, but she claimed it was from an appendectomy (yeah, right!). She also had lots of tattoos on her arms and legs and explained that that was the reason she was all covered up.
Did a nice BBBJ and covered FS, doggy and mish. I had a good time--she was (or at least convincingly faked) passionate and moaning the entire time. One shot for me after about 20 minutes. No extra charges for the extra time, either. Cool!
She worked really hard for the $20. I should have tipped her, but she took the money, said "adios," and was gone.
Anyway, after she left, i went out to take another lap of the street and alley. I saw her walking down the street with a big bag of what looked like groceries. I think she was working for the food money.
BTW, i think i saw her standing in the alley on Weds morning as well, but she was gone after I had taken one pass.
Anyone else know of this girl? She struck me as being very different from the other SGs in the area.
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[QUOTE=Desertratco]I ran into an interesting girl in the street Thursday. I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with her. I think she's a semi-pro for reasons I'll explain.
I don't remember her name. She was standing at the corner of Coahuila on the AB side of Constitucion. She was dressed all in sweats, top and bottom with the hood pulled up. Pretty, kind of shy smile. My first guess of her age was about 16 (I passed her up because of this). When I was walking by the first time, she was talking to a 55+ yr old man (her 'pimp'?). It looked like she was getting tips on how to pick up guys. When I walked around again, I revised my guess on her age to about 20. I approached her and asked why she was dressed as she was. She showed me her tummy and bra under her shirt ("flashing me," as it were). She had her hood up, but took it down to show short, page-boyish, hair. She looked OK (and of age), so we went up. We settled on 20 for sin ropa and multiple positions.
When we got the room, i engaged her in some small talk. She said she was 24 and had been in the streets of TJ for 6 years. She had a centerline belly scar which looked like a caesarean, but she claimed it was from an appendectomy (yeah, right!). She also had lots of tattoos on her arms and legs and explained that that was the reason she was all covered up.
Did a nice BBBJ and covered FS, doggy and mish. I had a good time--she was (or at least convincingly faked) passionate and moaning the entire time. One shot for me after about 20 minutes. No extra charges for the extra time, either. Cool!
She worked really hard for the $20. I should have tipped her, but she took the money, said "adios," and was gone.
Anyway, after she left, i went out to take another lap of the street and alley. I saw her walking down the street with a big bag of what looked like groceries. I think she was working for the food money.
BTW, i think i saw her standing in the alley on Weds morning as well, but she was gone after I had taken one pass.
Anyone else know of this girl? She struck me as being very different from the other SGs in the area.[/QUOTE]
I would say that with one exception she seems to fit the profile of girls we refer to as SW's as opposed to SG's. Street Walkers circulate because they don't have health cards. Obviously the exception is that she was standing in one place but not for very long apparently.
So I spent 5 days passing the chicas daily. I saw one that I wanted and asked if she wanted to get some food but looked around and said no. By day 4 she was holding my hand rather than pulling at it to get me in the rooms. I came back with a coke for her and you should see the expressions on all the other chicas around her. It was strange.
[QUOTE=Reinaldo]I would say that with one exception she seems to fit the profile of girls we refer to as SW's as opposed to SG's. Street Walkers circulate because they don't have health cards. Obviously the exception is that she was standing in one place but not for very long apparently.[/QUOTE]Yeah--I thought about that. THe first thing that popped in my head was that she might be a SW and a ROB. I talked to her a little, but I couldn't really get many straight answers out of her. Still, she was apparently known to the desk "clerk" at the hotel across the street, so she's probably worked the corner before. Whomever she was talking to looked like he knew her (not in the biblical sense), so she's apparently been in the Zona for a while.
I thought a little about the health card thing, too. I kind of figured that I've never asked any of the SGs for their cards, so I'm not positive that all of them have cards, either. Hmmm--we all take our chances, I guess, huh?
[QUOTE=Desertratco]
I thought a little about the health card thing, too. I kind of figured that I've never asked any of the SGs for their cards, so I'm not positive that all of them have cards, either. Hmmm--we all take our chances, I guess, huh?[/QUOTE]
If it's a girl who works a regular shift ie at least 5 hours standing in a particular spot for at least a few days a week the odds are that she probably has a health card. That's because the health department shows up unannounced to check pretty consistently.
Wasn’t planning on hitting TJ today, but the weather sucked, so walking the beach etc (hey—I *am* a tourist, after all!) wasn’t an option. I have a motel room right by one of the blue line trolley stops, so for $5, I bought a day pass and took it to the border.
Hit the border at about 4:00. Walked the alley, found Sandy, whom I had some experience with a couple of months ago. Sandy is 20, short, and pretty. Says she has two kids, but you’d never know it. Nice boobies, a little loose in the stomach area, but not fat by any means.
For $25, she went with oral, sin ropa, and multiple positions. We went into the hotel got the usual small talk out of the way, then stripped and got busy. Because it was a cool night, her skin (and feet!) were cold, but we quickly warmed up. After 15 minutes of cbj , doggie, and mish, I needed a few extra minutes to finish, so we ended up with a HJ. Since it was cool outside, Sandy curled up to take a little nap, so we spooned for about 15 minutes. No knock or anything, so it was a nice little rest for her and for me. Soft and warm lying next to you is always good!
I guess it pays to hit the alley when it’s a little cool out. The girls want to get out of the cold for a while, so extra time isn’t an issue.
Came back across the border at about 5:45. Took the Blue line back to my motel, then took the trolley again up to Petco Park to watch a Padres baseball game. The day passes are nice--$5 to ride all day. I wish the SGs were that cheap to ride all day! <grin>
My last night is Thursday night. I’ll have to spend a little time at AB or HK and see how things go.
Oh--btw. I wandered up Av. Revo the other night and walked into D elegantes, the new MP that someone had previously posted about. Nice looking place, but only had one girl available. I can't remember her name. A pretty girl, but I was looking to go cheap with a SW, so I declined. I may try that place again tonight.
TJ is in TJ right now. I took the day off and hit the alley early. At 11 am I ran into Beatrice, the morena. As usual she got totally naked and let me stay with her for about 30 minutes. It was nice.
She an some of the girls on the corner across from Hong Kong will be going on vacation for one month in July so get it while you can.
$20 and $4 for the room
Oh, yeah ,there are a lot of girls in the aloley today. The weather is nice and warm and so are they!
TJ
Hi,
Apologies up front for noob questions.
I've read Brockton's Guide but can't find reference to the alley this Thread seems to always refer to. Can you guys tell me where it is? Does it have an actual street name? Or is it just a reference to a general area?
Cheers!
[QUOTE=Yum Puss]Hi,
Apologies up front for noob questions.
I've read Brockton's Guide but can't find reference to the alley this Thread seems to always refer to. Can you guys tell me where it is? Does it have an actual street name? Or is it just a reference to a general area?
Cheers![/QUOTE]First the alley girls are talked about in the streetwalker thread. This is the map that shows the alley.
[url]http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/2448/tj2copyuc1.gif[/url]
[QUOTE=Yum Puss]Hi,
Can you guys tell me where it is? Does it have an actual street name? Or is it just a reference to a general area?
Cheers![/QUOTE]
The alley's actual street name is Callejon Coahuila. Callejon is spanish for alley or alleyway. It runs between Constitucion and Niños Heroes.
I have been to TJ 14 times in the past year. I have always gotten a BBBJ from a SW. I have never had any of them ask for more than ten bucks extra. Most will do it for the normal price. I think it is funny to hear mongers driving for hours or even flying for thousands of miles to a mongering location, then bragging about CBJ. Doesn't make sense to me.
[QUOTE=Yogi1000]I have been to TJ 14 times in the past year. I have always gotten a BBBJ from a SW. I have never had any of them ask for more than ten bucks extra. Most will do it for the normal price. I think it is funny to hear mongers driving for hours or even flying for thousands of miles to a mongering location, then bragging about CBJ. Doesn't make sense to me.[/QUOTE]
That's because It's not so easy to find one that does bbbj. YOu must be going to same girl each time cause not all SW do bbbj.
[QUOTE=Yogi1000]I have been to TJ 14 times in the past year. I have always gotten a BBBJ from a SW. I have never had any of them ask for more than ten bucks extra. Most will do it for the normal price. I think it is funny to hear mongers driving for hours or even flying for thousands of miles to a mongering location, then bragging about CBJ. Doesn't make sense to me.[/QUOTE]I think it is that most of us take care of our equipment. We keep it clean, safe and do not expose it to unnecessary hazards. Acquiring proper fitting covers and a chica with skills is all you need. Got to exercise self-discipline by keeping the big head in charge. Not only do I want to monger today, I want to monger 20 yrs from today.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]That's because It's not so easy to find one that does bbbj. YOu must be going to same girl each time cause not all SW do bbbj.[/QUOTE]Sorry to shoot down your TJ expertise, but it has been a different girl every time. All you have to do is ask.
I always ask, and except for Ariceli, always get turned down.
I go to TJ on a VERY regular basis as most of you know. But I only have one alley girl that will give me bareback BJ!
Sorry, I do not meant to contradict anybody's experiences but getting a BBBJ is not easy in the alley.
Generally, alley girls are not even happy to give a covered BJ.
TJ
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]
Sorry, I do not meant to contradict anybody's experiences but getting a BBBJ is not easy in the alley.
TJ[/QUOTE]
Absolutely correct. I think there is some confustion on this board between SW (street walkers) who hang at the AB corner or in front of the sleaze hotel South of Chicago Club. All of these skanks give BBBJ most include finish in mouth.
SG = Street Girl sporting a health card and stationed out of a particular hotel in a designated spot. I would say less than 10% of these chicas give BBBJ even after you repeat a few times.
Too much confusion between the pirate walkers (SW) versus legal card carrying SG.
I agree. This thread has been misnamed. It should be called 'street girls', not 'street walkers'.
Wow. Interesting comments. Saying because they are giving BBBJ, they must be hanging out in a certain area and are "Skanks". I would like to add, that in additon to the street girls, I have seen half a dozen of the escort service girls. They all give BBBJ. They are some of the best looking, cleanest girls in the city.
[QUOTE=Yogi1000]Wow. Interesting comments. Saying because they are giving BBBJ, they must be hanging out in a certain area and are "Skanks". I would like to add, that in additon to the street girls, I have seen half a dozen of the escort service girls. They all give BBBJ. They are some of the best looking, cleanest girls in the city.[/QUOTE]
Yogi,
On this thread we are not really considering escort girls but those in the streets. Many of us here have no experience with escorts ,so you are probably more knowledgeable. However, on the streets of TJ, expecially in the alley, the girls working there are of a general type. Ninguno Especial´s generalizations are correct. He is merely comparing that type, the street girls who stand in the alley in front if hotels with the street walkers who, for whatever reason (usually not good) have no relationship with a hotel or other establishment. The streetgirls usually DO NOT give BBBJ.
TJ
Anyone girl who continues to do BBBJ will end up not being clean. Nice way of saying it is, "cold sores."
Dropped in to TJ on Tuesday at about 1pm. Stuck my head into Tropical bar first--maybe five unattached chicas in there--nothing to hang around for. Hong Kong was next. Again, not many girls to choose from. Hit the alley and Av. Constitucion. Talked to several chicas who were asking for $25 for "sin ropa" and $35 for multiple positions. Dang! Turistas have jacked the price up, 'twould appear. Talked to one girl at the end of the alley who called herself Dulce. She barely made eye contact with me. The entire time I was talking to her, she was staring out onto Av. Niños Heroes. She's either strung out, abused, or unwilling. Any way you slice it, I'm thinking she's trouble.
Wandered a little further. At the top of Av. Constitution, right in the entryway to that little hotel on the corner, found a very pretty chica named Rosie. She told me that last Sunday was her 19th birthday. She teased me that I needed to give her a gift. Willing to do sin ropa and two positions for $20, so we went upstairs.
Rosie was a lot of fun. Very nice body--perky chichis, a little pooch in the belly-- she says she has no children and I think she's telling the truth. She talked and laughed the entire time we were together. A little rough when I asked for CG--more bouncing around than stroking.
I was really close to finishing when the knock came. She said I could get time to finish for $15 more-- five for the room, 10 for her. Heck yeah! I needed to get off, so I agreed. Finished in mish, taking about 10 more minutes. Rosie made lots of nice noises, talking to me almost continuously. I liked the fact that she wasn't rushing--more like asking if I was doing OK. She also had a little knack for an internal squeeze, if you know what I mean. Lots of little contractions of the vag helped me to get off.
I gave her a $5 propina as a "gift" for her birthday--also because she was actually very accommodating. IMO, she worked hard enough to earn the tip.
After we were done, she told me that I was her first client ever. She seemed in earnest when she said it. Considering her roughness with CG, I would guess that she's likely a novice. Either way, she's worth a return visit if I decide to go back tomorrow.
So--
Looks-8
Body 7-8
Enthusiasm 8
All told, $60 put out for a half hour ($4 parking, $11 for pharmas, $10 for the room, and $35 for Rosie). Money well spent, IMO.
TJ is back in TJ. If you were wondering where I have been then check the Rio, Brazil threads.
Anyway, TJ was slow today. Many girls were not out. Since the 4th is an American holiday I have no idea why they were not out there. ANyway, I was about to leave when I ran into Lucy, the girl who stands on the corner of Hero Ninos with Beatrice. They are close friends and I have never been with her after 5 years. Since Beatrice was not around I decided to try her friend.
Man, she gave a very good BJ! She got on her knees and really worked it. Unlike many streetgirls this one gave an "American porno" BJ!
$20 and $3 for the room for 20 minutes.
TJ
Desertratco,
Great report, the full budgetary vs performance analysis was especially helpful for the excel format spreadsheet we hope to see comparing SW vs club gals.
And you thought this was just simple P4P? Ha!
Hi Guys.
Two of my friends and I are headed out to TJ on Saturday morning from L. A. , and will stay until 10 p. M. Or so.
One of these friends is a friend of mine from out-of-state who is flying to Los Angeles JUST so that he can experience Tijuana. (He heard all of the stories that I told him over the past few years).
I have heard about some of the drug violence and kidnapping in TJ that has been on the news recently, but. My feeling is if you aren't obnoxious, don't flash wealth or money, and at night mostly stay in the Hong Kong/Adelitas area (and take a taxi home), then I feel that it is as safe as any large American city.
I also agree with some others in this forum who say that almost all of the killings are drug and mafia related.
Anyway, the three of us will be there on Saturday, picking up some alley girls, as well as perhaps something choice from Adelitas.
If it is true that Hong Kong is charging $10 to get in, then they will not get my business.
The last 2 times that I went in, in the evening, they made me buy a $3 beer before getting in the door. I know that they just spent a lot of money on renovations, but. They better not bite the gringo hands that feed them.
My friends and I have the goal of 3 experience this Saturday, so I personally will probably hit one Adelita's girl, and two Alley Ladies.
The last couple times I was in TJ (over the past 8 weeks), I really enjoyed the strategy of making sure that I had a connection with a girl that I will be spending time with. For me, sex is about feeling good, but I feel even better and the girl pleases more if the girl and I feel some kind of connection with one another.
This is why recently, I have enjoyed walking the alley and around the block of Hong Kong / Adelitas, and just occasionally stop and speak with a girl who catches my eye.
If we have a nice conversation (I speak basic Spanish, but enough to hold a 5 year old's conversation with a Latina), then I will ask her about positions and price.
I personally like to go for 30 minutes ("Media Hora"), no clothes ("sin ropa"), oral sex ("oral") and multi-positions ("mucho posicciones"). Some girls understand this to be "Todos" (everything). But, I can get this for between $30 to $40 for the girl (and normally $10 for the room). I know that a 20 minute quickie is $20 (with clothes, and just sex) and $5 for the room, but I have about as much fun masterbating on my own. I enjoy not feeling rushed, and especially feeling some connection with a girl (with most of the time has translated in some kind of connection in the bedroom).
When I am talking with an Alley Girl, here are some warning signs that make me walk away and talk to another girl:
1) If she cannot look me in the eye, or seems uncomfortable for some other reason
2) If she feels insulted or upset about the price negotiations (I normally begin with $20 fro 30 minutes and "everything", and then work my way up if I feel good about the conversation and like the energy of the girl).
3) If she isn't responding to my conversation with her (if she seems like she doesn't want to talk, isn't answering my questions directly, etc.)
Good signs:
1) If we are having a good conversation, and both of us seem to be enjoying it.
2) If she touches me while we are talking (touches my shoulder/body, holds my hand, etc.)
3) If she smiles when speaking with me, or shows any other genuine signs of affection (I know that she may or may not "like" me, but it is important to me that she takes the time to talk to me, and if there is some kind of basic positive connection between us, which again, most of the time translates into some connection in the bedroom.
I shared my thoughts about this approach with another friend of mine from LA (I introduced him to TJ), and we both tend to have very nice experiences with alley girls after we speak with them and sense if there is any connection between the girl and us.
My two friends and I will be in TJ tomorrow (Saturday July 12). All 3 of us look forward to it.
Sufipoett
Last week when I was in tj, it was dead, it was a Wednesday but still I don't think I have ever seen it so slow, no one on the streets at all, HK was pretty busy but that's because they closed off the other side. Not too many good looking chicks.
[QUOTE=Sufipoett]Hi Guys.
Two of my friends and I are headed out to TJ on Saturday morning from L. A. , and will stay until 10 p. M. Or so.
One of these friends is a friend of mine from out-of-state who is flying to Los Angeles JUST so that he can experience Tijuana. (He heard all of the stories that I told him over the past few years).
I have heard about some of the drug violence and kidnapping in TJ that has been on the news recently, but. My feeling is if you aren't obnoxious, don't flash wealth or money, and at night mostly stay in the Hong Kong/Adelitas area (and take a taxi home), then I feel that it is as safe as any large American city.
I also agree with some others in this forum who say that almost all of the killings are drug and mafia related.
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Sufipoett[/QUOTE]
Sounds like you're good to go and know what to expect. There has been a drop off in Zona traffic but that's because most people mis-understand what's happening and that will translate into more options for those who do show up. You might do better than you think given the present situation there so be prepared to haggle a bit more.
Yes, Hong Kong has re-modeled their club and their thinking so the cover is to pay for the upgrades, another sign that business has been slow and no, you do not have to go there. You can bet there is pressure on the girls to perform as well, but for top dollar.
Enjoy yourself and go with what you know. You'll be fine. Have fun.
Be safe and be nice
Country John
[QUOTE=Reinaldo]Have you verified that the $10 cover has actually been adopted as policy?
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After 7 or 8pm there is a 1 drink minimum for only $4. You can exchange the can of beer for water or perhaps a bottle of beer at the bar. They hand you a can at the door from a barrel iced down and you pay the door guy $4.
Next weekend there is something special going on so there may be a cover but ordinarily not.
Guys.
Nice reports. But can you all stop posting bar reports on the streetwalker thread. Hong Kong has its own thread, for example.
thanks,
TJ
I used to try to go during the week but the selection has been really limited. Yesterday I happened to be in Tijuas and of course had to check out the zona. At 5 PM Friday there were numerous attractive veterans ie Isabel@Cascadas, Lupe and Rocio@Najera and Carolina @Eduardo. Plus there were a number of cuties I hadn't noticed before.
I went to TJ on Sat 7/19/08 to check out the street action. At the POE, I noticed additional Mexican military with automatic weapons. This is of course in response to the famous shot out several weeks ago. Also, they were checking the bags of Mexicans coming back into Mexico--more than usual.
Anyway, I made it the Zona area around 11:45 am. Walked around and I noticed a lot of the same girls that are there week after week. I will not bore you with the details as I can sum it up quickly. I had 4 street girls over a course of 4 hours. A price range of $20 to $30 for full service. All were just ok, nothing to write home about. They just seem to be going through the motions. Also, I have reached my limit with these dirty cheap hotels there.
I saw a few street girls from the U.S. in the Zona. One was a white skinny girl in front of the Hong Kong club. She seemed to be on drugs, or maybe she is just acts like that all the time. She said a few words to me but I smiled and kept walking. I also saw a big (and I mean big) fat black girl across the street from the HK club at the corner.
At least I felt safe there in the Zona area. Cops were out in groups of 3 or 4. Taxi in and taxi out ($5 each way) is the best way to go. I would not waste my time waling from POE to the Zona and dealing with all the BS.
On the very bright side (and ya, I know which post this is--but bare with me for a moment), I stopped in at the Hong Kong club and had a great time with the girls there. $1 to feel pussies, a good deal by American standards. I got friendly with several girls I could have taken to the room. Price range was about $45 to take one of these ex-virgins back to the hotel. ; - }
On my next trip to TJ, I just will spend my time at the Hong Kong club and skip the street girls. I will pay a little bit more for the HK girls, but at least these girls are cleaner and the rooms they take you to are cleaner. NO MORE STREET GIRLS FOR ME.......(ok, maybe).
The big black girl has been there for years. Her name is Zenia or something like that. She tries to lie and get you to pay more for her than you would a Mexican when she should be giving it away free!
I think the skinny white girl is Chris. Did she have bumps all over her face? Chris will ask you for money every time she sees you if you ever give it to her once.
TJ
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]The big black girl has been there for years. Her name is Zenia or something like that. She tries to lie and get you to pay more for her than you would a Mexican when she should be giving it away free!
I think the skinny white girl is Chris. Did she have bumps all over her face? Chris will ask you for money every time she sees you if you ever give it to her once.
TJ[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the info. I agree that the big black fat girl should be giving it away for free, but what the heck, I paid her $100 for sex.........just kidding. I would NOT even let my dog f_ck her--she is that ugly.
As for the white chick, this one did not have bumps on her face. In fact, the little devil on my left shoulder told me to ask her how much. Little devil guy said "hey, she does not look half bad and if she is on drugs, she will do all the nasty stuff."
As luck would have it, the little angel on my right shoulder said, "the HK club has lots of new pussy to feel for $1 so don't waste time with this silly bit_h." And little angel guy was right. Thank God for angels!
Undercoverh,
I will be down on Thursday and will look for the skinny white girl.
We all know you really did give, Zenia, the big black girl, $100 by the way! HAHA!
TJ
Heading for TJ next week. Any experienced mongers with good SG contacts give me a heads up.
Happy tales and tails guys...play safe. It's a pity we can't f*** them all.
[QUOTE=Malo9517]It's a pity we can't f*** them all.[/QUOTE]
I'd hate to be there afterwards when you take a blood test for STD's. lol j/k
I've had the thought of wanting to do as many girls as possible in one day but then think about the risks. And oh yeah, the money... :eek:
A number of you have complained about unsanitary sg hotels and with good reason. However not all sg hotels are created equal. For example those of you who take girls out of HK are going to the same hotel that many sg's use or can be persuaded to use. Cascadas. So if you see a girl standing in front of Hotel Eduardo you can always ask her to cross the street and most will.
The cleanest hotels on the alley are Cascadas, El Porton, and Hotel Coahuila next to Bar La Valentina. All have rooms are with private bathrooms.
What hotel wouldn't have a private bathroom? Imagine sharing a bathroom with a few mongers, eww.
Regardless of what hotel room I go to, I make sure to put the clean sheets on the bed before lying down. Or at least the girl usually does when we first enter.
One girl was pretty nice and cared for cleanliness cause I remember after we finished and where about to leave, she noticed some cum that had missed her tits completely and had reached the floor. She went into the restroom got toilet paper and wiped it up. I told her not to worry about it, cause it's the clean up boys job. But she said that they don't have to know what goes in the room, something like that.
Actually that reminds me of some other girl who looked pretty tall in her high heels, so I told her to take them off so I could see if she was taller than me. But she refused to at first cause she didn't want to touch the floor with her bare feet. So she threw a towel down and stepped on it instead. I thought it was weird back then but now I understand. lol
Any people gone lately to TJ? How's the selection out in the streets?
Just Curious. Thinking of hitting TJ next week around wed, thurs, or fri.
any info would be helpful.
Yeah, many girls went home late July-August. I was down last Tuesday and got the rundown on a few alley girls who apparently will be back in two weeks from Mexico City or Acapulco.
I got it on with Lucy again since Beatrice is gone. I think Lucy gets a kick out of banging her best friends regular customer. She seems to enjoy the butt slaps!
Plus her BJ's are the best you can get in the alley.
TJ
Who says a guy can't have some good anal fun with a Zona Norte chica ?
I paid her a great price of only $350 usd ! I'm a happy camper now and so was she. :)
Warning ! - Don't view pics if you are hardcore squeamish.
Thanks for the warning on the pics. I wish I had abided the warning. Some of those pics are not right on a few levels. It is great that you post pics but I will not view another one from you with a warning. Ugh!
[QUOTE=Bobisee]Who says a guy can't have some good anal fun with a Zona Norte chica ?
I paid her a great price of only $350 usd ! I'm a happy camper now and so was she. :)
Warning ! - Don't view pics if you are hardcore squeamish.[/QUOTE]
Why so much money? For it for a whole day?
Cool pics but 350 is a lot I did a chick at Adelitas for 50 with everything but CIM.
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[quote=tjmee]cool pics but 350 is a lot i did a chick at adelitas for 50 with everything but cim.[/quote][quote=yossi]why so much money? for it for a whole day?[/quote]i agree with you guys, that it is a lot of money...... so i didn't. i was just checking your astuteness. :)
if i said that i paid $850, i'd bet it would still raise only a few eyebrows and even fewer forum participants would say anything.
i get appalled by how much i read the other guys pay. especially when i rarely go beyond $20 (as what i really paid in my last tijuana post).
heaven forbid that a few girls snarl at my "spend thriftiness"
because they've been spoiled by hard up & spend anything gringos.
those are the kind of women i'd gleefully [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord111][CodeWord111][/url] on if i paid what they demanded.
[quote=sgt perv]thanks for the warning on the pics. i wish i had abided the warning. some of those pics are not right on a few levels. it is great that you post pics but i will not view another one from you with a warning. ugh![/quote]indeed, heed my warnings. i only started with playboy mags, but rapidly graduated to the no nonsense hustler brand.
i'm curious though to know as to which "levels" you find "are not right".
what could it be that shook your sensibilities.
wait, let me guess. it probably either the male body parts or ass sex depicted, right ?
what can i say ? but hey, vanilla sex is cool too . . .. . sometimes.
cheers bro, i'm glad i was able to turn your stomach . . .. . on some "level". :) :) :) you'll get over it.
speaking of sergeants, when i served in the military,
there was little that could gross me out except for the much hypocrisy i witnessed there.
if a name should mean anything sgt perv, then i'm your master sgt or captain perv.
Speaking of sergeants, when I served in the military, there was little that could gross me out except for the much hypocrisy I witnessed there.
If a name should mean anything Sgt Perv, then I'm your Master Sgt or Captain Perv.[/QUOTE]Well you did not gross me out I just do not want to see pics of men. Your pics showed more male then female. What ever you liked done is your thing and I hope you find it. I personally do not want to see male *ss pics, not my thing. Keep posting pics with warnings. I will politely not open. Like I said it did not gross me out and was not at all appealing to me. Others may like, so keep the pics flowing .
I didn't view the pics. Well sort of. There is an option in your profile that allows you to view thumbnail previews of the pics before you click on them. Make's it a whole lot easier cause you already know what to expect before you view it in full size. And just like Sgt Perm said, there was more naked guy than girl on those pics so I didn't click.
You are curious on the levels? I have already stated the mostly male level. Another level is the angle of the pics. No way you snapped a pic with your finger cause too far away. Will not believe a timer cause of the framing and different angles. No other female pictured, so I would hate to think another guy was in the room taking them. That was it at a glance cause I do not care to look back for the other. If you wanted to get gross, a DFK pic would have got you closer and a "2 girl and a cup" pick would have got you there. The acts depicted are normal somewhat but the view although not completely appalling, definitely completely not appealing. I hope you enjoyed yourself. The girl did seem to have a nice body.
I had no intentions of looking at dude arse either but I did not mind it and I was not shocked or disgusted. There is nothing wrong with dude arse ass long as it not the main subject in the pics. I bet that Bobi's intent was not to show off his arse but to show everyone that the girl licked it.
[QUOTE=Yossi].... I bet that Bobi's intent was not to show off his arse but to show everyone that the girl licked it.[/QUOTE]Yes Yossi, you're quite right. In fact, anyone who has viewed my past photo posts can see that the overwhelming majority are not of male ass pics. Many have included anal sex which seemed to have made more than a few guys uncomfortable.
I'm really beginning to think that a significant percentage of the viewers don't enjoy porn and prefer the G-rated types. I guess that is okay. Porn and non porn pics on a website of a sexual nature have their place. There is definitely something confusing as well as curious about these types of views and comments. Perhaps there is another thread in which some of us can further discuss this.
Regarding details of this particular encounter:
The lady was a $20 streetwalker. Anal sex can be had in TJ though most girls want more money (which I rarely pay except with a small tip on occasion). A few enjoy it and/or actually prefer it like the girl depicted. Rarely do I have these girls go to town on my ass. This girl also took my cock up her butt and performed lots of ATM. Some chicks are freaks and they are the kind I like, but indeed a rarity in TJ (at least in TJ). Most of the girls working in the Zona Norte are poor, ignorant, culturally conservative or traditional, and sexually ignorant except for getting their job done and getting their money. I also believe they are spoiled in TJ. In all fairness, I need to go monger in southern MX and more Latin American countries to better access this for myself. Other threads seem to validate much of my feelings on this.
[QUOTE=Bobisee]Yes Yossi, you're quite right. In fact, anyone who has viewed my past photo posts can see that the overwhelming majority are not of male ass pics. Many have included anal sex which seemed to have made more than a few guys uncomfortable.
I'm really beginning to think that a significant percentage of the viewers don't enjoy porn and prefer the G-rated types. I guess that is okay. Porn and non porn pics on a website of a sexual nature have their place. There is definitely something confusing as well as curious about these types of views and comments. Perhaps there is another thread in which some of us can further discuss this.
Regarding details of this particular encounter:
The lady was a $20 streetwalker. Anal sex can be had in TJ though most girls want more money (which I rarely pay except with a small tip on occasion). A few enjoy it and/or actually prefer it like the girl depicted. Rarely do I have these girls go to town on my ass. This girl also took my cock up her butt and performed lots of ATM. Some chicks are freaks and they are the kind I like, but indeed a rarity in TJ (at least in TJ). Most of the girls working in the Zona Norte are poor, ignorant, culturally conservative or traditional, and sexually ignorant except for getting their job done and getting their money. I also believe they are spoiled in TJ. In all fairness, I need to go monger in southern MX and more Latin American countries to better access this for myself. Other threads seem to validate much of my feelings on this.[/QUOTE]
There is a thread called Anal Conoseurs, I think that you posted couple of time there. Was the payment of $20 was for a pop or for 15 minutes?
[QUOTE=Bobisee]
The lady was a $20 streetwalker. [/QUOTE]
That's a rate for about a full hour with the avearge TJ "street walker". Please clarify. Was she a "walker" or one dedicated to a single hotel (other than the Monitos South of Chicago Club where 90% of the walkers hang).
Or was she a "Street Girl" (SG) stationed at a respected hotel, health card, etc.?
Street Walkers are mostly found in USA not in TJ but there are a few at any given time. Almost all druggies, mostly skanks but a few who look "do-a-ble".
[QUOTE=Bobisee]Yes Yossi, you're quite right. In fact, anyone who has viewed my past photo posts can see that the overwhelming majority are not of male ass pics. Many have included anal sex which seemed to have made more than a few guys uncomfortable. [/QUOTE]
Is that anal sex on the girl or anal sex on you? :eek: j/k
[QUOTE=Bobisee]I'm really beginning to think that a significant percentage of the viewers don't enjoy porn and prefer the G-rated types. I guess that is okay. Porn and non porn pics on a website of a sexual nature have their place. There is definitely something confusing as well as curious about these types of views and comments. Perhaps there is another thread in which some of us can further discuss this. [/QUOTE]
I enjoy pr0n as much as the next guy. Of course I have my likes and dislikes. I've seen porn where the guy does anal rimming. I usually forward those parts. I've also seen where the girl does the tossing of the salad. I definitely skip and forward those parts. I guess it's just me but nothing grosses me out more than seeing a hairy dudes butthole being licked. I'm honestly almost gagging thinking and writing about it. But everyone is different. I personally do not like anything that has to do with the anus on porn even if it is the girl.
Those pictures of a chica ass-licking aren't porn! You don't find those kind of pictures even in Hustler, as you have to look hard in your local hard-core porn shop for pictures like that, as they are usually in the specialty sections.
So Bobisee don't say a significant of us don't like porn because a few of us including me are a little grossed out over those pictures of ass licking where your legs are up in the air looking like you want to be penetrated by something more than just a girls tongue?
Those pictures border on conscious/unconscious homoeroticism, not that I find anything wrong with it...it's just I'm going to call it like I see it.
Now of course many mongers like a nice rim job now and then, maybe it's just we rather not see it in pictures, or perhaps in the style of the pictures presented below?
But thanks for the pictures Bobisee, they are interesting to say the least, and I like the fact you surpassed Dermdoc in presenting weird pictures.
Anal sex in TJ is hard to come by. You'll ask to ask lots of girls before one will say yes. An SG will want at least a extra $20, and even bars girls will want more money.
The best bet if you don't want to be turned down is get a escort that does anal, so you won't have to keep getting turned down in the bars or alleys.
You are right on your assessment of the pics. The other level of wrong is the "prison style" positions of the man. I was trying to delete those pics from my mind , but when you mentioned the "homoerotic" it reminded me of the other level. Anal connoisseur would be the perfect place for that type of pics. I hope other pics of the chica are posted. She did look good.
Ye, I must agree too that the dude with legs up poses are not very "straight", I guess that doggy style pose would not help here either, so I guess that no matter what pose you want to choose it would still kinda end up being a homoerotic pose. I think that the best thing we can do here is be quiet on this subject and be happy for Bobisee, because I guess he had a great time having his shithole licked for $20.00! I know that I would be happy to get my asshole licked for $20.00 by some Mexican chick.
The thing is why I pro-Bobisee is because 1) the guy is really into assfucking these chicks, 2) he tries to not overpay them and 3) because he uploads all these chicks with gaping asses and ass shots.
Pokey, gotta disagree re the anal. I've got an HK regular (name escapes me tonight hic!) who asks if I'd like anal every time I do her.
Big girl, good English, muy simpatico, what's not to like? I always say "next time" as I'm not really a cornholing kinda guy.
The rimjob pics were a little raw IMO, I don't mind watching chicas (esp little brown ones :) ) getting reamed but a guy's butthole wasn't on my list of things to see when logging onto ISG
Your right. Praises to him for finding a chica to do something that is not usually done. And even allows pictures. I have yet to find a girl to even do a bbbj or a facial. They won't even allow me to take pictures of them fully clothed!
And if he enjoyed himself, even more power to him. But honestly like the others said, watching a guy in poses such as those goes beyond the normal boundaries of porn and into homoeroticism. Cause I'm sure I speak for many by saying that to enjoy such poses, they'd have to be into guys, even a little bit. And most guys frequenting prostitutes are not.
Regardless, thanks for sharing the pics. I'm sure there are a few who do enjoy such pics but would rather not admit to it.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Your right. Praises to him for finding a chica to do something that is not usually done. And even allows pictures. I have yet to find a girl to even do a bbbj or a facial. They won't even allow me to take pictures of them fully clothed!
And if he enjoyed himself, even more power to him. But honestly like the others said, watching a guy in poses such as those goes beyond the normal boundaries of porn and into homoeroticism. Cause I'm sure I speak for many by saying that to enjoy such poses, they'd have to be into guys, even a little bit. And most guys frequenting prostitutes are not.
Regardless, thanks for sharing the pics. I'm sure there are a few who do enjoy such pics but would rather not admit to it.[/QUOTE]
Yes, this pose is a very difficult subject to untie. But I concluded that if you enjoy being in a pose like that and a girl rims you then it is fine, because it is the girl who does the tongue work. But if you think about dudes or being totaly submissive to the extent that you let the girl to peg you(use a strapon with a rubber dong in your male butt) then it pretty much crosses the border. I think that borderline act that goes into the homo area if crossed is penetration. Borderline penetration is the finger - if you let the girl stick a finger in your butt then it is okay, but ANYTHING larger than the girl's finger is crossing the border, that is what I think. I understand being kinky and all and doing kinky stuff with the girl, but the thing here is if it is larger than the chick's finger that goes in your ass then you just crossed the fine line. In the other forum there a guy called Col_Bog, he posts a lot of reports, photos and videos sometime and a lot of time he posted stuff where he got fingered. I wasn't disgusted by that but my mind went into "alert" phase where I knew that anything larger than the finger was wrong. I mean, it is pretty much between you and the girl but if you post photos and especially the ones with hardcore acts then "more than a girl's finger" is the rule. Do you agree?
And pretty much if you like girl's finger in you shitpipe then you should enjoy it(if you do) and keep it to yourself, because there is no reason that we have to see photos or videos of, it is pretty much between you and the girl. But if it is the girl's ass that is getting fingered then let us see it too :-D
Finding a SG willing to do BBJ and or facial is hard but not impossible in TJ. Chances are you will have to visit TJ more than once so you can talk to a lot of SG's. I have had facials from 4 or 5 SG's in TJ. You will find that some SG's will try it once and then refuse to do it when you see them again. BBJ's are also hard to find since a lot of SG's don't like doing BJ's in the first place. This one of main reasons why I don't like TJ. Your best bet is to talk to the SW's on Constitucion.
[QUOTE=Hizark21]Finding a SG willing to do BBJ and or facial is hard but not impossible in TJ. Chances are you will have to visit TJ more than once so you can talk to a lot of SG's. I have had facials from 4 or 5 SG's in TJ. You will find that some SG's will try it once and then refuse to do it when you see them again. BBJ's are also hard to find since a lot of SG's don't like doing BJ's in the first place. This one of main reasons why I don't like TJ. Your best bet is to talk to the SW's on Constitucion.[/QUOTE]
ost SGs usually spend a lot of time on their make-up and hair. they are used to 20 minutes sessions and then back on the street, in their spot. They don' like to take the time to wash their hair etc, so the fascials are usually waived off for that reasom.
Walkers on the other hand usualy do the whole menu without much persuasion.
Is it possible to administer an enema to a street girl? I know that for money anything is possible, but how about an enema for like $20-$30?
of course you can enema a street girl for $20-$30. i have gotten a few bj for $5 from them. are you planning on walking around the zona with a enema bag ? can you imagine getting patted down from the policia and they ask about it? lol i have had p*ssy every way but barbecued. i know of nothing better. the anal intrusions are not even in my desires. dipping my finger or penis in fresh sh*t is no turn on for me. i have no desire for total domination. i do not have a lack of girth where i need something tighter. the thought of the aroma in the air during and afterwards does not excite me. i guess i am just an old fashion monger who is content with p*ssy and bjs. have i ever tried it? of course out of curiosity and her request. imho p*ssy is the undisputed champion. i see in pornos where back blasting is a staple but that is the movies for you. this enema thing is strange to me, is it the aroma or a peeing type fetish?
[QUOTE=Yossi]Is it possible to administer an enema to a street girl? I know that for money anything is possible, but how about an enema for like $20-$30?[/QUOTE]
I doubt it. Most street girls in TJ, those who stand in from of certain hotels are not open to much out of the ordinary. Most would not do an enema, and certainly not for $30. Mexico is surprisingly a fairly conservative country when it comes to sex. We tend to forget Mexico is part of North America.
Go to Brazil for enemas and that type of stuff. I am in RIo and just banged a blond for R$15, about $8US doogy style with my finger up her butt! You have to really kn ow these girls before they will open up and going down every blue moon with $30 will not do it!
It took me years seeing the same girls every week before they got wilder in the sack. I have banged a few SGs in the butt only to have them say no the next time and swear it never happened! Mexico is NOT Brazil, so give up on those kinky fantasies.
TJ
TJ
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]I doubt it. Most street girls in TJ, those who stand in from of certain hotels are not open to much out of the ordinary. Most would not do an enema, and certainly not for $30. Mexico is surprisingly a fairly conservative country when it comes to sex. We tend to forget Mexico is part of North America.
Go to Brazil for enemas and that type of stuff. I am in RIo and just banged a blond for R$15, about $8US doogy style with my finger up her butt! You have to really kn ow these girls before they will open up and going down every blue moon with $30 will not do it!
It took me years seeing the same girls every week before they got wilder in the sack. I have banged a few SGs in the butt only to have them say no the next time and swear it never happened! Mexico is NOT Brazil, so give up on those kinky fantasies.
TJ
TJ[/QUOTE]
Ok, I see and understand this matter. But what about the streetgirls agreeing to just laying there on the bed with their asses spread-out and having their asses licked and fingered? Is this possible with streetgirls or only with escorts?
[QUOTE=Yossi]Ok, I see and understand this matter. But what about the streetgirls agreeing to just laying there on the bed with their asses spread-out and having their asses licked and fingered? Is this possible with streetgirls or only with escorts?[/QUOTE]You are not imprisoned ,if you turn her over there is a p*ssy there. It will not have that sh*tty taste to it. If into the smell and taste, save yourself the time and money by sticking your finger in your own butt.
Just for fun and to lighten up present topic.
Just for fun and to lighten up present topic.
I have to say that I agree with many of you in one regard,
that I myself am not excited about seeing a man's ass (but nor repulsed either - I'm just neutral about it).
By the same token, I'm also not thrilled about seeing a man's cock which also could be construed as "homo erotic".
And what is it with these guys who think anal sex is "too gay" for them, but blow jobs aren't ? Go figure.
I'm sure there is a strong correlation here as to why so many of us guys prefer viewing lesbian sex or porn.
Nevertheless, that too can still be construed as being fucking gay or homo whatever . . .. .
Anyways, it wasn't my intention to promote homo eroticism.
It was one of my intentions to show something a little different,
but also to get away from the too many of the "pretty girl" and non-sexual pictures I see.
Especially in TJ where guys seemingly pay so much while getting so little.
Btw, while I've posted many ass action type pics in the past,
I don't think I've posted before any of chicks rimming me. Can't say for sure.
You definitely woke this board up. Good job!! No harm done what so ever but you got people thinking. Most did not respond . The ones that have are entertaining. Hope to see more post from you...well maybe, lol
[QUOTE=Sgt Perv]You are not imprisoned ,if you turn her over there is a p*ssy there. It will not have that sh*tty taste to it. If into the smell and taste, save yourself the time and money by sticking your finger in your own butt.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but butt is butt :-D That is the thing(for me at least) the fun and thrill of smelling and playing with(as well as fucking) some chicks ass. Pussy is pussy and it is not bad at all, I have nothing against it and I like it. It is just the asshole and the buns of a chick that I find to be more fun and dollar-worthy. It is not the dirty ass that I seek, please do not get me wrong, I am just looking for RAW anal. I am not looking for ass filled with shit or anything of this type of sort. I am just after some raw street ass. I think that this is kinda fun, adventureous and has a pinch of thrill in it. Nice demotivational posters by the way, I like the "un-see" one with the bug-eye cat, funny.
[QUOTE=Yossi]Ok, I see and understand this matter. But what about the streetgirls agreeing to just laying there on the bed with their asses spread-out and having their asses licked and fingered? Is this possible with streetgirls or only with escorts?[/QUOTE]
This might be a possibility, especially at night. In fact you could probably get away with the licking part with no problem with some girls as long as you take it slow. As a tip I would make some attempt to let them know this is a secret. Doing so for some things, such as BJs, has allowed me to get away with things with some girls (again this plays into Mexicans` conservative nature).
Therein lies the problem for you.. It will be difficult to find one willing to do it and to let you know so in the street. For example, I have known some girls for years and only now know that they get a kick out of pretending not to like sex and making it seem my idea that they give me BJs. If I had only known!
[quote=yossi]but if you think about dudes or being totaly submissive to the extent that you let the girl to peg you(use a strapon with a rubber dong in your male butt) then it pretty much crosses the border. i think that borderline act that goes into the homo area if crossed is penetration. borderline penetration is the finger - if you let the girl stick a finger in your butt then it is okay, but anything larger than the girl's finger is crossing the border, that is what i think. i understand being kinky and all and doing kinky stuff with the girl, but the thing here is if it is larger than the chick's finger that goes in your ass then you just crossed the fine line...
...but if you post photos and especially the ones with hardcore acts then "more than a girl's finger" is the rule. do you agree?[/quote]
i don't agree to that. you're basically saying that if a guy has anything bigger than a finger in his butt, he's gay. that's not true. that's basically stereotyping that gay guys take things up their butt. while this tends to be a running gag about homosexuals, it's simply not true. i happen to know some males who are gay and i found out from from a few of them that they don't like, want or ever had anything up their chocolate pipes. and i've had some very straight and in some part homophobic friends who have mentioned having things up their butt. according to these few, you've never had an orgasm like when the prostate is involved. massaging the prostate, which is reached through the anus gives off an explosive orgasm that is supposed to be way better than those achieved solely through penile stimulation. i've read about this.
i personally would never try it cause just like my gay friends say, "i don't want anything in my butt."
i personally do not care about anal sex. even if it's only the female. like i told one of the chicas when i mentioned doggy and she thought i was mentioning anal sex, "that place is only for things to come out, not to go in." another girl i was talking to, she was showing me her long finger nails then pointed her middle finger at me. i quickly noticed that nail was short. she said she keeps it short because her regulars like having a finger up their butts during sex. an awful image quickly came to my head and my anus even clinged. i told her my same rule and to keep that stink finger away from me. lol
[quote=hizark21]finding a sg willing to do bbj and or facial is hard but not impossible in tj. chances are you will have to visit tj more than once so you can talk to a lot of sg's. i have had facials from 4 or 5 sg's in tj. you will find that some sg's will try it once and then refuse to do it when you see them again. bbj's are also hard to find since a lot of sg's don't like doing bj's in the first place. this one of main reasons why i don't like tj. your best bet is to talk to the sw's on constitucion.[/quote]
[quote=country john]ost sgs usually spend a lot of time on their make-up and hair. they are used to 20 minutes sessions and then back on the street, in their spot. they don' like to take the time to wash their hair etc, so the fascials are usually waived off for that reasom.
walkers on the other hand usualy do the whole menu without much persuasion.[/quote]
are the walkers the same girls on constitucion? where exactly are they? i don't think i've ever seen them.
and your right about the makeup thing. one girl i asked about a facial mentioned that she didn't want to do it because she'd have to re-apply her makeup. and a few of the girls who at least allow me to splooge on their tits always cover their face with a towel first. party poopers, lol.
[quote=yossi]is it possible to administer an enema to a street girl? i know that for money anything is possible, but how about an enema for like $20-$30?[/quote]
wait, what!? you mean an actual enema? like the kind the doctor gives you when you have constipation? :eek:
[quote=efjayel]i don't agree to that. you're basically saying that if a guy has anything bigger than a finger in his butt, he's gay. that's not true. that's basically stereotyping that gay guys take things up their butt. while this tends to be a running gag about homosexuals, it's simply not true. i happen to know some males who are gay and i found out from from a few of them that they don't like, want or ever had anything up their chocolate pipes. and i've had some very straight and in some part homophobic friends who have mentioned having things up their butt. according to these few, you've never had an orgasm like when the prostate is involved. massaging the prostate, which is reached through the anus gives off an explosive orgasm that is supposed to be way better than those achieved solely through penile stimulation. i've read about this.
i personally would never try it cause just like my gay friends say, "i don't want anything in my butt."
i personally do not care about anal sex. even if it's only the female. like i told one of the chicas when i mentioned doggy and she thought i was mentioning anal sex, "that place is only for things to come out, not to go in." another girl i was talking to, she was showing me her long finger nails then pointed her middle finger at me. i quickly noticed that nail was short. she said she keeps it short because her regulars like having a finger up their butts during sex. an awful image quickly came to my head and my anus even clinged. i told her my same rule and to keep that stink finger away from me. lol
are the walkers the same girls on constitucion? where exactly are they? i don't think i've ever seen them.
and your right about the makeup thing. one girl i asked about a facial mentioned that she didn't want to do it because she'd have to re-apply her makeup. and a few of the girls who at least allow me to splooge on their tits always cover their face with a towel first. party poopers, lol.
wait, what!? you mean an actual enema? like the kind the doctor gives you when you have constipation? :eek:[/quote]
i was just suggesting the "finger rule" as a way to not go overboard while here on isg.
and yes, the kind of enema that a doctor might give you. maybe not exactly a 4-quart rubber bag, but maybe 3-4 doses of disposable fleet enemas (that you might find at most drugstores) into a street girl's ass. then give her a rectal inspection and then have some anal sex with her.
[QUOTE=Yossi]And yes, the kind of enema that a doctor might give you. Maybe not exactly a 4-quart rubber bag, but maybe 3-4 doses of disposable Fleet enemas (that you might find at most drugstores) into a street girl's ass. Then give her a rectal inspection and then have some anal sex with her.[/QUOTE]
Although grossed out, I'm also curious. Not about the enema but about how you got interested in doing something like this. Would you care to explain? Don't have to if you don't want to.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Although grossed out, I'm also curious. Not about the enema but about how you got interested in doing something like this. Would you care to explain? Don't have to if you don't want to.[/QUOTE]
I don't know, I never relaly thought about this. I just like female ass and kinks a lot I guess.
[QUOTE=Yossi]I don't know, I never relaly thought about this. I just like female ass and kinks a lot I guess.[/QUOTE]
You're not alone. Except I like shooting inside bareback.
Risky though. [i]Very[/i] risky.
Why, do guys over there walk around with enema bags?
Brazilians have some of the best asses I've ever seen. The girls look latin but have the figures of black women. I think black women have the best bodies but black women aren't exactly my cup of tea. I preffer latin girls all the way.
This is my preffered order when it comes to women...
Latin
White
Asian
Arabic
Black
That order isn't set in stone though. Cause I've seen some black women that are to die for.
This thread was getting slow. A report every day or so. Then one post with "different" type pictures and this thread is booming. LOL I am starting to feel sorry for the chicas. Some of you guys want to get dead in their ass. Ouchy! Talk about going over to" the darkside". Has me wondering. Can a man truly get tired of pussy? I well know you can easily get tired of what it is attached to. But the pussy itself? Is not pussy the reason that keeps women off the endangered species list? Would you marry without the pussy? (San Fransisco Cal. Residents do not respond). I am pushing 50 y/o and still excited to get my next piece. To me when the Lord created pussy, he not only shined he shined bright.
I don't walk with an enema but sometimes I carry with me my "Anal Kit" :-) it is nothing special, just a grooming/travel kit-bag that has bunch of stuff inside including an anal syringe which can be used as an enema, take a look.
I am not tired of pussy, I just prefer asshole. I like pussy too, especially if it is a teen one, without blown-out labia lips and meat hanging out, a nice pussy is also great and sometimes even better than asshole, but for mo st encounters anal is the way for me.
I like all kinds of girls, from white to black and everything in between. From young (18+) to older, and from skinny to plump. I think that every girl is different from looks and behaviour but if the girl is willing then so am I :-D
Yes, I agree. Shooting a load right into girl's asshole does not only feels great but it is also a psychological thing, kinda taboo, and whenever this happens I get a good boost of happiness. Checkout the Anal Conneusers section here on ISG, they have a discussion on "why anal".
I am sure policia has seen many of those along with border patrol. lol Airport x-rays ? Gotta have a copy of that picture. Seems to be missing camera,condoms and handi-wipes. It would take a brave man with no shame in his game to sport one of those. Does it come assembled or do you have to piece it together? I prefer a pair of nylons over the handcuffs and two heavy cotton socks for a gag. A small cage with a hamster would really set it off but I know PETA would *****. lol
Hmmmm . . .. . are we talking anal creampies ? Haven't had that kind of action in years.
Regarding the rim chick, I believe that she was a real streetwalker as opposed to one who is glued to one hotel.
She appeared pretty clean (at least without any scabs). Did her once before also.
A week later (last week), I found & did another $20 SW anal girl. Never seen her before.
She was an attractive MILF (35 yo) deported from L.A. Perfect English. Had a very nice good-sized and shapely butt.
When I admitted my interest there, she of course tried to up sell it.
She acquiesced after I told her I rarely pay extra for it and prefer chicks who dig it that way.
She confessed to being one of those chicks. I certainly believed her while I buried
my salami completely up her backside with some small to average gape views.
The down side was that she was a meth user and her skin was beginning to reflect it. So were her tiny sagging titties. :(
[QUOTE=Yossi]I don't walk with an enema but sometimes I carry with me my "Anal Kit" :-) it is nothing special, just a grooming/travel kit-bag that has bunch of stuff inside including an anal syringe which can be used as an enema, take a look.
I am not tired of pussy, I just prefer asshole. I like pussy too, especially if it is a teen one, without blown-out labia lips and meat hanging out, a nice pussy is also great and sometimes even better than asshole, but for mo st encounters anal is the way for me.
I like all kinds of girls, from white to black and everything in between. From young (18+) to older, and from skinny to plump. I think that every girl is different from looks and behaviour but if the girl is willing then so am I :-D
Yes, I agree. Shooting a load right into girl's asshole does not only feels great but it is also a psychological thing, kinda taboo, and whenever this happens I get a good boost of happiness. Checkout the Anal Conneusers section here on ISG, they have a discussion on "why anal".[/QUOTE]
Handcuffs in your "Anal Kit"? XD
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Why, do guys over there walk around with enema bags?
Brazilians have some of the best asses I've ever seen. The girls look latin but have the figures of black women. I think black women have the best bodies but black women aren't exactly my cup of tea. I preffer latin girls all the way.
This is my preffered order when it comes to women...
Latin
White
Asian
Arabic
Black
That order isn't set in stone though. Cause I've seen some black women that are to die for.[/QUOTE]
But many, if not most Brazilians are actually black and look like Black Americans so please delete this post, E.
This would be like someone saying they like Mexican women, just not mestizos, when most Mexicans are mestizos.
You are displaying a serious racial prejudice here by implying that black Brazilians are not really Brazilians and that only the Brazilians who look Latin (again, you imply that Latins can be mestizos only when there are blacks in most Latin American nations, too, but obviously you do not mean them).
I would suggest you stay out of Brazil because they will send you back to N. America with a beat down with this type of implicitly racist stuff. And do not think this stuff will fly with the "Latin looking" Brazilians you seem to like. Most of them have black family that your comments are disrespecting. They will beat you down, too!
Please, E, erase this post and do not try to explain away what you said or get angry. You are just wrong on this one. Trust me on this.
TJ
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]But many, if not most Brazilians are actually black and look like Black Americans so please delete this post, E.
This would be like someone saying they like Mexican women, just not mestizos, when most Mexicans are mestizos.
You are displaying a serious racial prejudice here by implying that black Brazilians are not really Brazilians and that only the Brazilians who look Latin (again, you imply that Latins can be mestizos only when there are blacks in most Latin American nations, too, but obviously you do not mean them).
I would suggest you stay out of Brazil because they will send you back to N. America with a beat down with this type of implicitly racist stuff. And do not think this stuff will fly with the "Latin looking" Brazilians you seem to like. Most of them have black family that your comments are disrespecting. They will beat you down, too!
Please, E, erase this post and do not try to explain away what you said or get angry. You are just wrong on this one. Trust me on this.
TJ[/QUOTE]
Come on! There is nothing racist about this post.
Brazilians are a mix of what natives the Portuguese didn't kill off, Portuguese and African. In fact, the Portuguese were, by far, the number one slave traders of the era, and Brazil imported the vast majority of slaves. So, some of the girls look more African, some look more Portuguese. So what?
The Spaniards slaughtered the indigent Mexicans, the married the leftovers. So now we have some girls who more resemble the Indians, and some who more resemble the Spaniards. So, what? This is news?
Saying you prefer the looks of a Brazilian girl who more resembles a Latina, i.e. lighter skin, finer features, is no different than saying you prefer a blonde with big boobs and pale skin as opposed to a flat-chested darker-skinned brunette. To each his own.
Jeez, lightn up! Everybody's just looking for some reason to be offended.
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]But many, if not most Brazilians are actually black and look like Black Americans so please delete this post, E.
This would be like someone saying they like Mexican women, just not mestizos, when most Mexicans are mestizos.
You are displaying a serious racial prejudice here by implying that black Brazilians are not really Brazilians and that only the Brazilians who look Latin (again, you imply that Latins can be mestizos only when there are blacks in most Latin American nations, too, but obviously you do not mean them).
I would suggest you stay out of Brazil because they will send you back to N. America with a beat down with this type of implicitly racist stuff. And do not think this stuff will fly with the "Latin looking" Brazilians you seem to like. Most of them have black family that your comments are disrespecting. They will beat you down, too!
Please, E, erase this post and do not try to explain away what you said or get angry. You are just wrong on this one. Trust me on this.
TJ[/QUOTE]
What? You make it seems like I want to ethnically cleanse the population or something. I know that there are blacks and or a mix of black people in Brazil. This is where a lot of the women get their killer bodies. It's usually from a mix of these races coming together and having offspring with mixed traits.
First off I don't hate black women. You seem to have miscontrued my comments as that point of view. I don't know where you're getting that from. Like I said before, they're not my preffered choice. Latin women are. So if a girl in Brazil who is mixed, looks more latin than black then yeah, I'll go after her before a girl who looks more black providing that she would be hotter looking than the black girls. Cause I've seen some black girls that catch my attention more than the latin girls.
And what's this about being kicked out of Brazil? Am I going over there while wearing a white hood? lol.
So I preffer women of a certain distinct look. What's wrong with that? I honestly could care less about their genes or what other races are in their bloodline. That makes no difference to me. If a girl is hot, she's hot regardless of her race or genes.
Just as fjord said, "lighten up."
[QUOTE=Smut Villain]Handcuffs in your "Anal Kit"? XD[/QUOTE]
That's right. And don't forget the digital rectal thermometer, I don't think that it works right, I paid $3.00 for this made in China thermomter.
I bet they test it by trying it on themselves first. lol.
3 bucks?! You cheapskate! If your going to probe your own butt you might as well get the top of the line. Doesn't your butt deserve the best?
You should go for the "sobe" plastic bear honey bottle for the cleansing (prison style). What is up with the thermometer ? Worrying about a sick *ss ? What is the perfect temperature for penetration 99.6 degrees the normal anal temp.? A small vial of starting fluid would ease the chica when the ether bunny shows.
[QUOTE=Sgt Perv]You should go for the "sobe" plastic bear honey bottle for the cleansing (prison style). What is up with the thermometer ? Worrying about a sick *ss ? What is the perfect temperature for penetration 99.6 degrees the normal anal temp.? A small vial of starting fluid would ease the chica when the ether bunny shows.[/QUOTE]
It is just an innocent sex toy.
[QUOTE=Yossi]It is just an innocent sex toy.[/QUOTE]Lol I am just have some fun with the anal kit thing. We all have our little thing we like to do. My perverted mind likes to look and customize things even though I have no intent on using them.
Anybody hitting TJ this Labor Day weekend? I will be down on Friday afternoon, leaving around 7pm.
I am not big on TJ nights anymore. I normally go down around noon and leave around 5-7 depending on the line. At 7pm on Fridays the line dies down significantly.
Beatrice, the morena, should be back in town this weekend.
TJ
I was gonna go this weekend myself but figure it will be hell over there with the crowds being Labor day weekend. Plus some guy I know mentioned he was going. I wouldn't want to bump into him or anyone else I know since I have my reputation to hold up of being an innocent and holy guy that doesn't visit such places. lol
Maybe next weekend. :cool:
I have bumped into people I knew 3 times while in TJ. Yes, this is the thing to avoid if you can.
Yes it is too crowded right now. I will be not go down tomorrow (Monday) but will get back there on Tues.
TJ
Isn't this thread supposed to be a SW in TJ?
[QUOTE=Bleeper2001]Isn't this thread supposed to be a SW in TJ?[/QUOTE]Yes it is! We got side tracked after report #867. It happens but there is 4 pages of entertainment :)
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]I have bumped into people I knew 3 times while in TJ.
TJ[/QUOTE]I bumped into a girl that was the spitting image of my wife's sister. At first, I really thought it was her. I laughed because as soon as she talked I knew it was not her. So, I took her arriba and enjoyed banging my wife's 'sister.'
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]I have bumped into people I knew 3 times while in TJ. Yes, this is the thing to avoid if you can.
TJ[/QUOTE]
I can't imaging bumping with your next door neighbor or a co worker, that can ruin my day for sure :o
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]I can't imaging bumping with your next door neighbor or a co worker, that can ruin my day for sure :o[/QUOTE]
That's easy for you, how about the chicas? I recall in one of my expeditions this one bar chica I knew came and sat down next to me and was trying to hide herself. She pointed out some guy and said she knew him. That the guy was her moms neighbor. She didn't want him to see her so she sat with me until the guy left.
One of the guys I ran into once in TJ was a holy-rolling religious guy. He physically bumped into me as he was coming out of a hotel! He then claimed he was lost!
he was coming out of that hotel where Gabriella use to work.
TJ
I think I saw Charlie Sheen walking the Alley?
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]I think I saw Charlie Sheen walking the Alley?[/QUOTE]I know it wasnt him but there used to be this shitty strip club alled Fetishes (there sign is still up) in the plaza by the McDonalds when you first cross. My old roomates and I were there several years ago and there was a dead ringer for Gary Busey getting thrown out of the place.
I think Charlie Sheen is currently dating some hot model. He usually tends to be. Especially now that his former wife and hotty Denise Richards have broken up. He's definitely not a guy who would need the Zona since girls(I'm sure equally as hot as AB girls) approach him all the time and aren't doing it for money.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]I think Charlie Sheen is currently dating some hot model. He usually tends to be. Especially now that his former wife and hotty Denise Richards have broken up. He's definitely not a guy who would need the Zona since girls(I'm sure equally as hot as AB girls) approach him all the time and aren't doing it for money.[/QUOTE]
Ha HA!! LOL, Some guys never get over, some guys can date the hottest women they still like to buy cheap service, I like it too and I don't see anything wrong with it!
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]I think I saw Charlie Sheen walking the Alley?[/QUOTE]You have to watch the alcohol intake will in the zona. I saw a pink elephant once.
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]Ha HA!! LOL, Some guys never get over, some guys can date the hottest women they still like to buy cheap service, I like it too and I don't see anything wrong with it![/QUOTE]Exactly. Don't ya'll remember Hugh Grant?
I'm sure you do and I'm also sure women flock to you like they do to Charlie Sheen, I mean outside of the Zona. :rolleyes:
j/k
Pink elephant?
I saw one but it was purple!
Efjayel,
No they don't because I don't have his money, let's see how long before he goes back to the old days, this hobby is an addiction, married to a hot girl
doesn't mean anything, what he's gonna do when he feels like having a three way or just get tired of the same? :D
Speaking of tired of the same, is it difficult to find a threesome or anal sex in the alley? Is there a good way to go about asking?
I'd feel stupid going from one girl to the next down the line like I'm crossing them off a list.
I only know of 2 girls that do anal. One is Jackie at Najera and other one is Carina. Carina stands in between the police station and ice cream stand.
[QUOTE=Montt]Speaking of tired of the same, is it difficult to find a threesome or anal sex in the alley? Is there a good way to go about asking?
I'd feel stupid going from one girl to the next down the line like I'm crossing them off a list.[/QUOTE]Threesomes are not that hard to find. Anal? I am not into it but others claim to get it. The best way to ask is by just asking. These are not virgins, they have heard most things. Window shopping, browsing and flirting with the chicas is part of the fun. Do not feel stupid for asking for want you want, no matter how many chicas. Feel stupid for not asking and limiting your number of requests. IMHO :)
[QUOTE=Sgt Perv]Threesomes are not that hard to find. Anal? I am not into it but others claim to get it. The best way to ask is by just asking. These are not virgins, they have heard most things. Window shopping, browsing and flirting with the chicas is part of the fun. Do not feel stupid for asking for want you want, no matter how many chicas. Feel stupid for not asking and limiting your number of requests. IMHO :)[/QUOTE]
I know this myself and easily repeat it to others but I don't follow my own advice. I'm sure I would have already gotten all the things I seek if only I had asked more. But there comes a point where asking for such things makes me feel like a total pervert so I end up not asking. No not anal. I don't care for it.
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]
Efjayel,
No they don't because I don't have his money, let's see how long before he goes back to the old days, this hobby is an addiction, married to a hot girl
doesn't mean anything, what he's gonna do when he feels like having a three way or just get tired of the same? :D[/QUOTE]
Like I was saying before, a guy like him doesn't have to look far. I'm sure that just about any bar or club he goes to will have hot chix swarming all around him. Lucky pug. :p
[QUOTE=Efjayel]I know this myself and easily repeat it to others but I don't follow my own advice. I'm sure I would have already gotten all the things I seek if only I had asked more. But there comes a point where asking for such things makes me feel like a total pervert so I end up not asking. No not anal. I don't care for it[/QUOTE]You are in the zona, you are a pervert !! Get what you came for and then go home and be ashamed:)
I'm not ashamed to do a hot chick and have paid for it. My mom found out about one of my trips to TJ and obviously what I went to do over there. She didn't feel any shame for me. She was okay with it. She understands a guy has needs. Now that's a cool mom.
Of course she thinks I've never gone back since. ;)
She might as well think that because it's been eight months since I've last gone. I can't go this weekend. Or the next. And the weekend after that doesn't look very good either. The only upside is that this allows me to save money. I've saved enough money that I could do every girl at AB. Hmm, I might just have to try that. :D
[QUOTE=Efjayel]I'm not ashamed to do a hot chick and have paid for it. My mom found out about one of my trips to TJ and obviously what I went to do over there. She didn't feel any shame for me. She was okay with it. She understands a guy has needs. Now that's a cool mom.
Of course she thinks I've never gone back since. ;)
[/QUOTE]
This one is funny LOL,
"MY MOM"? What are you 12? :D :D
Does she buys condoms 4 u too?
Sorry Efjayel, but I couldn't resist too funny!!!
Yeah I know. And no I'm not twelve, i'm easily over twice that age. And what else am I supposed to call my mother but "mom?" Regardless of my age, my mum will always be "mom" doesn't matter if I'm twelve or 100. My mamma willl always be "my mom." She wants it that way till the day she passes away. So I will always refer to her as "mom."
As for buying me condoms, she did that once when I was very young. She'd preffer to get involved and know that I have safe sex than not get involved in my life by not educating me about unprotected sex. Like I said, "cool mom." :cool:
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Yeah I know. And no I'm not twelve, i'm easily over twice that age. And what else am I supposed to call my mother but "mom?" Regardless of my age, my mum will always be "mom" doesn't matter if I'm twelve or 100. My mamma willl always be "my mom." She wants it that way till the day she passes away. So I will always refer to her as "mom."
As for buying me condoms, she did that once when I was very young. She'd preffer to get involved and know that I have safe sex than not get involved in my life by not educating me about unprotected sex. Like I said, "cool mom." :cool:[/QUOTE]I love you bro, but what do you mean she prefers to get involved? She shows you how to have protected sex? My mother just told me. Man, you can take her with to zona and she can make sure chica hold your balls so they do not get cold.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Yeah I know. And no I'm not twelve, i'm easily over twice that age. And what else am I supposed to call my mother but "mom?" Regardless of my age, my mum will always be "mom" doesn't matter if I'm twelve or 100. My mamma willl always be "my mom." She wants it that way till the day she passes away. So I will always refer to her as "mom."
As for buying me condoms, she did that once when I was very young. She'd preffer to get involved and know that I have safe sex than not get involved in my life by not educating me about unprotected sex. Like I said, "cool mom." :cool:[/QUOTE]
I mean what mom has to do with your private sex life?
That's what I meant not because you used the word "mom"
Anyway, If you're in your 20s your young get a girlfriend, what are you doing paying for sex, that's for gray hair guys like myself or CJ LOL!
I don't understand why young guys like yourself got to pay to bang, when you can get it free, well almost free dinner and movies plus the room, use the car and save a few bucks.
Had one. Too many hassles. It was a like a second job and the only return were too few and far apart moments of satisfaction that no way made up for all the troubles. I'm happy currently, being by myself. And no more feelings of infedelity and monogamy preventing me from going to the pleasure zone. The only thing currently holding me back is my own busy schedule. But it's fine. I'd rather be working and making money than be in the zona and losing money.
Could someone finally explain who these cheerleaders at Hong Kong are? When where they added and what girls are they? New recruits hired only for dancing? Old workers simply dressing as cheerleaders? Do they go upstairs? Private booth? Drinks? Dollar cop-a-feel?
What? :confused:
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Could someone finally explain who these cheerleaders at Hong Kong are? When where they added and what girls are they? New recruits hired only for dancing? Old workers simply dressing as cheerleaders? Do they go upstairs? Private booth? Drinks? Dollar cop-a-feel?
What? :confused:[/QUOTE]
I think he's referring to the sash girls. They hired them after the grand opening, following the major remodel.
They wear a white sash that says Hong Kong on it. They stand around outside, for the most part, but mingle a bit inside, too.
It's pretty obvious that most of them aren't bar girls. Some are pretty, some, IMHO, are incredibly average. Definitely not the top tier of the promotion girls.
They don't dance, some will sit for a drink. I've read reports that a very few will go up, but I understand they are a distinct minority. I've not tried, but I doubt they go for the touchy-feely stuff at all.
Ah ok, thanks for that. Do they dress as cheerleaders or just similar?
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Ah ok, thanks for that. Do they dress as cheerleaders or just similar?[/QUOTE]
No. Just street clothes, more or less, with the sash. At least that's the way it was the last time I saw them, a couple of weeks ago.
Went down to TJ to get some dental work done. The dentists office is only 2 blocks away from the Zona Norte so I decided to check the action. I walked around for awhile and I met this one young SG named Carla. Got a bj and some FS action for $30. The CBJ was fairly disappointing. I also learned that passports will be required in June 2009. Most of you probably know this, but I thought I would inform you anyway.
So birth certificates aren't going to cut it anymore?
Had to make another trip to see the dentist so I walked around the Zona Norte for a short while. The selection was fairly sparse. The only SG that seemed worth picking up was Carla. I was considering going with Carla, but the cbj was so lame that it did not seem worth it. Carla's cbj was only about 4 the last time I was with her. Seems as though the best bj's in TJ are the worst in SD.
[QUOTE=Hizark21] The only SG that seemed worth picking up was Carla. I was considering going with Carla, but the cbj was so lame that it did not seem worth it. Carla's cbj was only about 4 the last time I was with her. [/QUOTE]
If this Carla works in the alley South side out of Eduardo Hotel she is known as Stone Cold Carla.
Try KARLA at the East end of the alley, actually East side of Constitution a few feet North of the alley T. Tall, pretty and if you are lucky will give a BBBJ. She is there days into early evening.
I am a Mexican-looking, short guy who wants to go to TJ.
On the bus from la.
Is it safe right now to go down there for the weekend?
I like them thick and juicy and dark.
Cheap motel too.
If need be, I would stay in s. D. To sleep and just troll the streets in the day time for poon.
Thanks all
[QUOTE=Hizark21]Seems as though the best bj's in TJ are the worst in SD.[/QUOTE]
What exactly does that mean?
[QUOTE=DriedUp]I am a Mexican-looking, short guy who wants to go to TJ.
On the bus from la.
Is it safe right now to go down there for the weekend?
I like them thick and juicy and dark.
Cheap motel too.
If need be, I would stay in s. D. To sleep and just troll the streets in the day time for poon.
Thanks all[/QUOTE]
You'll definitely find a few thick, juicy and dark chicas. But for this I'd try the other bars like Miami, Playboy and some of the other not so famous bars.
What exactly does that mean?
FJL, try getting on the 5 South instead of vicariously mongering and you'll be enlightened. You might even be able to use your own map to find the place.
Efjayel
I just meant that your worst BJ in experience San Diego is the best BJ you will get in TJ from a SG..
Ninguno Especial (Carla)
I am fairly certain this the same SW you are talking about. She is tall with white skin and has some acne. The other irritating thing was that she want $10 sin ropa. She hangs out one east side of alley by the laundromat.
Bj are Better in SD, I see. I wouldn't want to risk that though. With my luck, my first attempt at mongering in the states will be during a law enforcement crack down.
And Cornyone, don't worry I'm going this weekend for sure. Unless there is some unforseen event, nothing is keeping me from my favorite playground. It's been almost a year since i last went. Can't wait!
The cops have been fairly low key recently. A lot of SW's have left town after the cops conducted a sweep last month. Cruising ECB is fairly safe so long as you take the usual precautions and observe what the cops are up to.
Dried up!
[QUOTE=DriedUp]I am a Mexican-looking, short guy who wants to go to TJ.
On the bus from la. Is it safe right now to go down there for the weekend?
I like them thick and juicy and dark.
Cheap motel too. If need be, I would stay in s. D. To sleep and just troll the streets in the day time for poon.l[/QUOTE]Nobody cares what you look like (sorry. Same applies to those folks that say they look grea and chicas f them for free. Never happenedt! ) as long as you have the $s.
Stay at the leyva if you need to. It is 21$s per night.
Chicas cost 15 to 24$s based on what your needs are.
Stay in the zona for your own security! There are security cameras all over and the bad guys (including the bad cops) know it.
Have fun.
[QUOTE=Adventur]Dried up!
Nobody cares what you look like (sorry. Same applies to those folks that say they look grea and chicas f them for free. Never happenedt! )
[/QUOTE]
You're right, it doesn't happen for free, instead they insist on paying me. lol.
[QUOTE=Adventur]
Chicas cost 15 to 24$s based on what your needs are.
[/QUOTE]
$15 to $24 would be street girls, and at that price, the really low class ones.
[QUOTE=Adventur]
Stay in the zona for your own security! There are security cameras all over and the bad guys (including the bad cops) know it.[/QUOTE]
Including the streets?
FJL, will the girls also pay your broke ass's bus fare to la zona? Yes, they will pretty much screw anyone who pays them, that (for the last year) excludes you. Send us a postcard this weekend from your "favorite playground", put up or shut up.
Well there won't be any postcards, but I am taking my camera. Let's see what develops, so to speak. :)
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Well there won't be any postcards, but I am taking my camera. Let's see what develops, so to speak. :)[/QUOTE]Remember to remove the memory card when not using it. Would hate to get caught with the pics.
I hit the alley today around 12 noon (12:16 to be precise). I went with Beatrice, the morena, as usual. We got into the hotel ($3), and stripped. I put her on top and then asked for a BJ. She then said, "more money." I then put her on top of me and let her ride me. She got "tired" after 5 minutes, so I took over--doggie style.
I gave her 200 pesos ($18US) and left. I now have to teach her a lesson. Her best friend Lucy gives porno type BJs and sex for $20US. Beatrice will never get my business again. I truly which she had not tried to treat me like a trick!
TJ
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]
I gave her 200 pesos ($18US) and left. I now have to teach her a lesson. Her best friend Lucy gives porno type BJs and sex for $20US. Beatrice will never get my business again. I truly which she had not tried to treat me like a trick!
TJ[/QUOTE]
Nowdays there's a significant difference betweeen 200 pesos and $20. You're paying Lucy the equivalent of 260 pesos. I've never done Beatriz because she has a face only her mother could love but she's been known for giving good service for years.
Glad to hear you know these girls. Actually (and I am being honest here), I only pay in pesos and I give Lucy 200 pesos. I was a bit sloppy and wrote $20US. However, when the dollar and peso are at 10 to 1, I would give her $20, I guess. But, as most of you know, I normally change my money at the border cambio (the one right at the gate when you walk in.
You are right, I would never give Lucy $20 US right now.
TJ
What about AB? would you still give them pesos?
I was there last weekend. The girl I was with quoted prices in dollars. I've never had any girl say prices in pesos. It's always been dollars. You can tell them you want to pay them in pesos. With the peso being really low, you might be able to save money. I've never tried that though.
Tj Fan, have you ever tried paying a bar girl in pesos? If so, what where their prices?
Chicas quote what they think you are using.
If they believe you are USA monger, then it is dollars.
Except for my very first time "in country" I have always used pesos.
When they quote me in dollars , I use the 10:1 ratio to counter with in pesos.
If she asks $30, I says "300 peso" as I show my pesos.
Never have been turned down. Even the room and cum boy(coin) and beer and food!
It is kind of funny to see how fast they know which bill is which. I have to look real good before I hand it over.They know at half a glance.
It also does not seem to hurt so much handing pesos over because it seems like play money. lol
[QUOTE=Efjayel]I was there last weekend. The girl I was with quoted prices in dollars. I've never had any girl say prices in pesos. It's always been dollars. You can tell them you want to pay them in pesos. With the peso being really low, you might be able to save money. I've never tried that though.
Tj Fan, have you ever tried paying a bar girl in pesos? If so, what where their prices?[/QUOTE]
I've had several of the "newer" BGs quote in pesos. Not often, cuz all their clients think in dollars. But, as their native tongue is Spanish, if you conduct the negotiations in Spanish, and talk pesos, I think it'd be easier to sneak in the peso thing. :)
The food carts always quote pesos, so I have to say, "en dolares" to get the price in dollars.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]The food carts always quote pesos, so I have to say, "en dolares" to get the price in dollars.[/QUOTE]
Now that the peso has declined to 13 - 14:1, I'm gonna have to start changing dollars at the border. The 10:1 thing was easy, but now, paying in dollars results in overpaying. And I'm nothing if not a cheapskate!! :)
tightbutt! :p
60 is the usual going rate in dollars. What is the usual price that they ask for when you ask them to pay in pesos?
I'm thinking that just because the peso has declined, it doesn't mean things are cheaper in Mexico. I doubt that the price for something like say, a shirt has gone down just because the peso isn't as strong. It's only when exchanging the money when you see a profit/decline in how much is paid. If their electric bill was 400 pesos a year ago, it's probably still 400 pesos today. So if you pay them in pesos, they wont see a difference.
[QUOTE=Phordphan]Now that the peso has declined to 13 - 14:1, I'm gonna have to start changing dollars at the border. The 10:1 thing was easy, but now, paying in dollars results in overpaying. And I'm nothing if not a cheapskate!! :)[/QUOTE]
As of Friday the peso has rebounded to 12:85. Unless oil continues to go down-it's now at 70-I'm not sure the peso will too. If oil recovers due to an OPEC cutback we may even see the peso recover more.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]tightbutt! :p
60 is the usual going rate in dollars. What is the usual price that they ask for when you ask them to pay in pesos?
I'm thinking that just because the peso has declined, it doesn't mean things are cheaper in Mexico. I doubt that the price for something like say, a shirt has gone down just because the peso isn't as strong. It's only when exchanging the money when you see a profit/decline in how much is paid. If their electric bill was 400 pesos a year ago, it's probably still 400 pesos today. So if you pay them in pesos, they wont see a difference.[/QUOTE]
Offer 600 pesos (or, if you're like me, offer 500). Odds are good she'll accept. She'll be happy, you'll have paid less and you'll be happy, too. :)
Also, she doen's have to pay the exchange commission, so she is actually a little bit better off accepting payment from you in pesos.
I know some girls obviously will have a higher fee to take them out of the bar for the rest of the night.... But does anyone have any info on if there is a bar fine or not??? And if so how much is it (generally)?
Thanks,
CC
[QUOTE=Cobra Comander]I know some girls obviously will have a higher fee to take them out of the bar for the rest of the night.... But does anyone have any info on if there is a bar fine or not??? And if so how much is it (generally)?
Thanks,
CC[/QUOTE]
Well you have to take into consideration their required ficha quota. In case you didn't already know, a ficha is credit they receive for every drink a customer buys for them. Some tell me their ficha quota is about 15 to 20 drinks. This means they have to get customers to buy them drinks until their ficha quota is met. This quota is like rented space to be able to use the bar to get themselves Johns. If they don't fill their quota, then they have to pay the difference out of their own earnings.
So if you take a girl out of the bar, she would have to fill her quota before leaving. This would mean you would have to put up the rest of their amount for the quota. I don't know the actual amount But I'm guessing it's anywhere between $50 bucks and up.
Next thing you have to consider is if the girl will allows herself to be taken out of the bar for the rest of the night. The hottest girls will most likely refuse being that they get the most customers, and leaving for the night could mean a loss of money. Unless they ask for a really high amount like $1000 or so. Cause some of the really hot ones make that much or more in one night.
You'd be better off asking the non perfect 10's. And it would even be better if you tell them you want to meet after they get off of work. No bar fine and perhaps they'll even ask for less money since it's money they are making on the side.
[QUOTE=Cobra Comander]I know some girls obviously will have a higher fee to take them out of the bar for the rest of the night.... But does anyone have any info on if there is a bar fine or not??? And if so how much is it (generally)?
Thanks,
CC[/QUOTE]I have tried the club chicas ( quote was near $1000 US) but I know for sure the alley girls will jump at 100 pesos-150 pesos.
I have got one or two on most my trips. I "book in advance" when I meet them(mainly day chicas at about 5pm or so).
I go for a test ride first.
I give them an hour or so to meet me in the zona.
Gives her time to arrange her release and me time enjoy the clubs.
I never tell them my room number (they need to know what hotel) in advance for my safety but a buddy of mine has and she showed up at the front desk on time. YMMV
I don't know about that ficha stuff because I was at AB a while back and it was probably 1 oclock and theres no way that a chick can get that many drinks in a short amount of time because it was pretty slow.
[QUOTE=Tjmee]What about AB? would you still give them pesos?[/QUOTE]
I do not visit AB. I might start going at some point.
TJ
[QUOTE=Efjayel]I was there last weekend. The girl I was with quoted prices in dollars. I've never had any girl say prices in pesos. It's always been dollars. You can tell them you want to pay them in pesos. With the peso being really low, you might be able to save money. I've never tried that though.
Tj Fan, have you ever tried paying a bar girl in pesos? If so, what where their prices?[/QUOTE]
Nope, I never paid in pesos in the bar. But I am sure you can get away with it as long as you let them know up front the way Sgt perv. seems to do.
Just counter with pesos when they quote in dollars.
I will try it when I am down there on Thursday.
TJ
A couple years ago I came out of CC (standing in front of "their" hotel)one afternoon looking at money (pesos).
Yes , I know that is stupid to do it on the streets but I was not solo.
A man who was coming across the street from that store/pharmacy, saw me and asked if he could exchange his $20 US for pesos with me.
I told him to let me look at his bill. I looked it over and it looked real ( I was looking for a con job). So I hand him 200 pesos with one hand while holding the $20 US dollar in the open with the other hand (still waiting for some type of switch or hustle).
The man (shady looking guy) looks at the 200 pesos I hand him and asks/states that it is worth more like 220 pesos (which it was at the time but, at the time and drinks in me I was mentally locked into the 10:1 conversion for my simplicity).
As soon as I motion to give his $20 US back, he quickly takes off back over to the pharmacy/store to his buddies.
Now I am really looking at that US 20 and keeping track of him cause I thought I got conned somehow.
The bill was fine so there is something with them exchanging currency.
I have seen what some stores/resturants use for conversion in TJ and it was always below what the banks would give me ( banks 11 and stores 10).
So I guess the guy was happy with the 200 pesos but was trying for 220 pesos. He for sure did not want the US $20.
I guess for some it is easier to just take peso without the hassle of conversion.
They are happy and I am happy. WIN/WIN situation.
The coins and bills do take some getting use to but worth it to me.
I just checked and as of today's conversion your $200 US is 2642.10 mxn and 642 mxn (pesos) is $48.61 US.
My tight butt loves it!
[url]http://www.ac-markets.com/forex-resources/currency-converter.aspx[/url]
[QUOTE=Sgt Perv]I have tried the club chicas ( quote was near $1000 US) but I know for sure the alley girls will jump at 100 pesos-150 pesos.[/QUOTE]I had a brain fart sorry I meant 1000-1500 pesos for alley girls.
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]Nope, I never paid in pesos in the bar. But I am sure you can get away with it as long as you let them know up front the way Sgt perv. seems to do.
Just counter with pesos when they quote in dollars.
I will try it when I am down there on Thursday.
TJ[/QUOTE]Do you really think the locals are paying more in the zona because of conversion rate change?
600 peso is 600 pesos.
Use 10:1 because to them, it is not worth arguing and having you not buy.
Using pesos also gives them a perception of experience about you.
Any pesos left over just bring them back next time or cash in either Mexico Bank(best), exchange or US exchange.
[QUOTE=Sgt Perv]I have tried the club chicas ( quote was near $1000 US) but I know for sure the alley girls will jump at 100 pesos-150 pesos.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sgt Perv]I had a brain fart sorry I meant 1000-1500 pesos for alley girls.[/QUOTE]
Wait, alley girls or club girls? Either way, 1000 pesos would mean almost $100 american bucks. You confused me. Or are you talking about 1000 pesos for an alley girl to do an all nighter?
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Wait, alley girls or club girls? Either way, 1000 pesos would mean almost $100 american bucks. You confused me. Or are you talking about 1000 pesos for an alley girl to do an all nighter?[/QUOTE]I usually have to thank them and ask them to leave.
I usually take them out of zona to a club or something to eat her choice before room.
One even got upset and thought I was mad at her.
I was not mad, just tired and I do not go to sleep with one in my room.
I tend to sleep very little and when I do go to sleep I am out cold for a couple hours.
I am talking Alley chica during the week not weekend.
Good deal for me because the club chicas are about $72 if I used US total for 45 min. and the Alley chicas cost about $ 100 -$150 US for hours of play. Bonus I used Pecos(MXN) so a little cheaper, not much.
Club chicas have quoted prices from $600- $1000 US. for the nicer ones.
Never even thought about giving them a counter offer.
[QUOTE=Sgt Perv]Do you really think the locals are paying more in the zona because of conversion rate change?
600 peso is 600 pesos.
[b]Use 10:1 because to them, it is not worth arguing and having you not buy.[/b]
Using pesos also gives them a perception of experience about you.
Any pesos left over just bring them back next time or cash in either Mexico Bank(best), exchange or US exchange.[/QUOTE]Salute Sarg,
I think the cross border monger should not use the 10: 1 ratio. The rate now is 20 to 30% better, depending. The ladies know the rate (and it is not the one posted inside Adelitas). A 10: 1 ratio right now, with rates much better, is a propina. I would use that to my advantage.
The following generally holds true:
The casa de cambio rates on either side of the border are generally very close. For safety reasons you may wish to change dollars to pesos on the US side.
The rate gets less favorable after the end of business hours, as those remaining open give a less favorable rate as there is less of a market.
Generally there are one or two "best rate" casa de cambios, usually in the town center/commercial district, not necessarily immediately at the border.
The best time to change money in Mexico is during the day in the commercial district or on the US side.
If you plan to travel into the interior of Baja past Tijuana, then you do better changing money at the border. The same market rules apply in places like San Felipe or Cabo, where the rate is much less favorable.
What your ATM gives you (and charges) is known only to you, but if done during the day in a safe manner will often be the best rate.
I [b]never[/b] change dollars or pesos with a "street vendor".- even the Mexican 20 and 50 peso notes are now made out of thin plastic. Why? Counterfeiting of Mexican currency. (Who knew? ) And your 100 USD note is scrutinized as there are several "Supernotes" floating around Mexico. Some casa de cambios even display examples of counterfeit currency in their windows. Anyone on the street can easily change a legitimate bill at a legitimate CdC if he really needs to.
Police may view hand to hand exchanges on the street as a reason to investigate, as other activities may be suspected.
This is Mexico. And the above is either from personal knowledge and from my friend who works for the state in Baja.
I hope occasional visitors find this helpful.
I think you have missed the point here.
I was asked if I have ever used pesos in a bar because 1.) people know I always use pesos and 2.) people know that when I post here I am usually talking about the streets.
I am not sure what your 10 to 1 stuff means.
I always use pesos anyway.
I only mentioned you because the question asked about pesos in bars and you were the only one who had said anything about pesos and bars, EVEN though this is the street thread!
My point is that I am not an newbie who has no knowledge of pesos but one who posts on this thread because I know the TJ street scence and this IS the street thread.
I have no knowledge of the bars but do not need advice about what the locals are doing.
Thanks for your input, but I know the street scene quite well. I would only need your advice on the issue of the bars and using pesos there.
TJ
[QUOTE=Sgt Perv]Do you really think the locals are paying more in the zona because of conversion rate change?
600 peso is 600 pesos.
Use 10:1 because to them, it is not worth arguing and having you not buy.
Using pesos also gives them a perception of experience about you.
Any pesos left over just bring them back next time or cash in either Mexico Bank(best), exchange or US exchange.[/QUOTE]
I absolutely did not mean to offend you.
This is Mexico why would any place not accept Pesos ?
A $3 beer 1 year ago is still a $3 beer today.
That $3 beer cost 30 peso to everyone a year ago.
It cost the same today 30 pesos.
The difference is what you pay with.
By using US currency they are making more money.
By using Pesos you are spending less.
Thank you for saying it in a better way.
I did mean 10:1(mxn to US) as use for advantage.
When they ask $3 I say 30 pesos anywhere in Mexico.
I did not realize the deeper you go in country the rates change. Good to know for future.
Thanks
Hit TJ today about 11am. The alley had its usual girls but few customers. I went with Alizada who stands at the north end of Constitution (i think this is the street). I paid 200 pesos and 50 pesos for the room.
At times the girls on that corner will give you problems in the room, even Alizade and act funny if you take a long time. Not today. I think they need money
TJ
How is the Street scene Thursday thru Sunday? Are their alot of mongers ? Did it drop 50%? Are the chicas desperate for custumers? Has the US economy hit the chicas earnings?
The peso was today 13.24 peso. Does that mean everything in Tijuana went up ?
I do not go down on the weekends as usually there are too many tourists for my taste. The border wait can be very long (up to 2 hours on Sundays) so I avoid the weekends. Thursday are a good day to do down. And Friday nights are good as the selection is good and the wait at the border is not long after 7pm, in general.
The chicas do seem a bit more desperate for money right now.
TJ
[QUOTE=El Tijuanense]How is the Street scene Thursday thru Sunday? Are their alot of mongers ? Did it drop 50%? Are the chicas desperate for custumers? Has the US economy hit the chicas earnings?
The peso was today 13.24 peso. Does that mean everything in Tijuana went up ?[/QUOTE]The Mexican economy hit the chicas.- sometime ago, not the US economy.
The exchange rate for pesos is now more favorable to US dollar holders than in the past several years. It now takes about 12 or 13 pesos (depending on when and where you change money) to buy one dollar. In the last few years it took fewer pesos, usually between 10 and 11 to buy one dollar. That means that Mexico is CHEAPER for dollar holders, not more expensive. Your US dollar now has more buying power, it buys more pesos.
The normal precautions regarding personal safety apply as they always have. Rather than repeat those here, perhaps reading the forum's Crime and Safety thread will better apprise you.
The most important factor in your personal safety is you. That C&S forum is the best place to get informed and learn what you can do for yourself.
Don't let the stories you hear scare you away. Your dollar is worth more and there are fewer crossing the border, but if you know what to do, when, and where, you will have a great time.
Suerte.
El Tijuanense,
As for the street scene there are lots of girls still out there. And the going rate is still US $15-$20 in general. Paying in pesos is usually advised as the most prices are quoted in a 10 to 1 ratio (you probably know this but it is for newbies). When the US dollar goes over 10 you actually save quite a bit by paying in pesos. I use the extra money to eat while down there considering the extra pesos a free meal!
Thursday-sunday are still busier than the other days but slower than in the past. Some of us now only go down during the day and find the number of girls prior to 5pm to be getting better. ON THursday and Friday, you will find the day selection to be similar (though somewhat smaller) than the night time selection.
TJ
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]El Tijuanense,
As for the street scene there are lots of girls still out there. And the going rate is still US $15-$20 in general. Paying in pesos is usually advised as the most prices are quoted in a 10 to 1 ratio (you probably know this but it is for newbies). When the US dollar goes over 10 you actually save quite a bit by paying in pesos. I use the extra money to eat while down there considering the extra pesos a free meal!
[/quote]Yup we get better deals when we pay with pesos. You can save$5-$7 per sg slam :]
[quote]Thursday-sunday are still busier than the other days but slower than in the past. Some of us now only go down during the day and find the number of girls prior to 5pm to be getting better. ON THursday and Friday, you will find the day selection to be similar (though somewhat smaller) than the night time selection.
TJ[/QUOTE]Who do some only go now during the day? Crime,cartel gun fights?
I never done a day time run just once chicas were hotties. I pounded a 18 old Veracruzana, she wanted more lol
[QUOTE=El Tijuanense]Yup we get better deals when we pay with pesos. You can save$5-$7 per sg slam :]
Who do some only go now during the day? Crime,cartel gun fights?
I never done a day time run just once chicas were hotties. I pounded a 18 old Veracruzana, she wanted more lol[/QUOTE]
Yeah, there is lots of crime and corruption on TJ right now. Well, I mean even more than normal.
I like the daytime because it is safer and you get a good look at the girls.
TJ
Went down today. The alley was fairly slow with many girls missing. I went with Lucy. She gives a good BJ and I think she secretly likes getting dogged out. I really ram my D down her throat until she has to spit it out.
When I do not do that to her she tries to deep throat it anyway, but always stop. I take this as her cue to start really giving it to her!
By the way, the border line was a 1-2 hour wait today. I think every Mexican was at the border trying to get in. I have no idea why they make US citizens stand in the same line with Mexicans (and other citizens of other countries). No other country does this to its people, just the US.
TJ
Deal with it. That's the way it is.
"I'm an American Citizen, I deserve better!" j/k :p
[QUOTE=Efjayel]"I'm an American Citizen, I deserve better!" j/k :p[/QUOTE]
Well, yes, we do. We're paying for all these clowns to stand around looking lost.
Yesterday I got to the border at 4. Waited in line just over 30 minutes. Only 8 workstations were manned, the others, as ususl, vacant. At least 8 other highly-paid drones were milling around with their collective thumbs up their collective asses. :(
I've been through a lot of border crossings and they all have windows for the native passport holders and windows for the rest. TJ is like the largest land border crossing in the world, or at least the US. We taxpayers don't deserve such a friggin' dump.
[QUOTE=Phordphan]Well, yes, we do. We're paying for all these clowns to stand around looking lost.
Yesterday I got to the border at 4. Waited in line just over 30 minutes. Only 8 workstations were manned, the others, as ususl, vacant. At least 8 other highly-paid drones were milling around with their collective thumbs up their collective asses. :(
I've been through a lot of border crossings and they all have windows for the native passport holders and windows for the rest. TJ is like the largest land border crossing in the world, or at least the US. We taxpayers don't deserve such a friggin' dump.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. I am going to Brazil again in November and when I get there I know I will have to stand in one line while the Brazilians get in another, faster line. Why is it that the same principle, which every other country seems to use, does not apply for Americans when entering their own country at the Mexican border?
TJ
Please give a description of Lucy. I would like to find a SG with light skin that gives a good bj.
I drew a map awhile back detailing exactly where she stands. I will go back and find it later today and post a total response to your question.
TJ
[QUOTE=Adventur]Stay in the zona for your own security! There are security cameras all over and the bad guys (including the bad cops) know it.
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There are surveillance cameras in the tourist district on Revo.
But I do not know for sure if there are surveillance cameras keeping watch over the ZN. I have not yet verified their existence. Has anyone seen them with their own eyeballs?
Are you sure city officials rigged them up in the ZN? That's awful nice of them if they did...
____________________________________________X Lucy
The ALLEY
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Adelitas Miami Club Hong Kong
Lucy is short with medium-sized breasts. She is light brown in skin complexion.
Normally she is wearing some sort of short skirt. I have never seen her in pants.
She is always at the end of the alley at the corner. Just ask for Lucy. If you decide not to do her, then just walk away.
TJ
[QUOTE=Crash Helmet]There are surveillance cameras in the tourist district on Revo.
But I do not know for sure if there are surveillance cameras keeping watch over the ZN. I have not yet verified their existence. Has anyone seen them with their own eyeballs?
Are you sure city officials rigged them up in the ZN? That's awful nice of them if they did...[/QUOTE]Last time I was there on my moon lit ride back to the border I was talking to a cabbie about crime, both thug and policia and asked if there where cameras in the Zona. Well he started ranting on and on about politics and the new Tj mayor and stuff. But basically he said the last Tj official did have cameras set up in the zona but when the new guy came in, they didn't bother with them. So they are all now turned off. And most are vandalized, broken or stolen.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]"I'm an American Citizen, I deserve better!" j/k :p[/QUOTE]If you have not applied for a SENTRI than you are missing out.
I got one years ago and it is very very much worth the effort. I paid about $175 a few years ago and they have exteneded it through 2011 I think. No more fees. I have only paid once.
Hey Guys,
I'm new to the TJ scene. How much should one expect to pay to get FS from a SG? Also, what are the time limits?
Thanks in advance for your help!
Use you're charm LOL. Nah it shouldnt be more then 30 plus the room, but its different all the time.
The SG's are normally $20.00 for sex only 20-30 minuts. I usually negotiate $25.00 for full sex multiple positions and lately have gotten BBBJ included and in the end pay them $30.00 if they are good to me.
[QUOTE=Guidos]Hey Guys,
I'm new to the TJ scene. How much should one expect to pay to get FS from a SG? Also, what are the time limits?
Thanks in advance for your help![/QUOTE]
Whats up fellow mongers? I don't post much but I read the board weekly, if not daily. I only get out to Tijuana 3 times a year since moving to atlanta, which sucks, so I have to give props to all you regular posters for keeping me informed. Thanks guys! I'm headed down to Tijuana again in December and I'm looking to try a new hotel on the strip. I always stay at the hacienda de santiago because its clean, and safe (I travel alone), yet pretty close to all the action. I'm looking for something safe/clean, but right on callejon in the middle of the action. The idea of walking out the front door 5 steps and see the SG's sounds great to me. Any info/pricing would be greatly appreciated. Anyone stayed the night at leyvva or one of the other hotels the SG's hang around? I wonder is there a particular hotel that houses the SG's.
Who is the light skin girl with green eyes that works out of Mini's and stands outside that hotel? Name please,state were shes from.
Shes always looking at me when I pass her by.
[QUOTE=Jdhyamaha] I'm looking for something safe/clean, but right on callejon in the middle of the action. The idea of walking out the front door 5 steps and see the SG's sounds great to me. Any info/pricing would be greatly appreciated. Anyone stayed the night at leyvva or one of the other hotels the SG's hang around? I wonder is there a particular hotel that houses the SG's.[/QUOTE]I've stayed at the Leyva many times but not recently so I can't give you current price info. It will be cheaper than Hacienda de Santiago. As far as staying on the callejon your options are limited really to Cascadas or El Porton.
Cascadas has been known to charge a fee after the first sg you take to your room but I don't know if they're doing it currently. Both places charge less than Hacienda de Santiago.
Was it packed this weekend at the Coahuila Callejon(alley) alot of mongers or slow business for the SG'S?
TJ is away in Rio partying big time. I will hit the alley again on Thursday or Friday.
Where are the reports? I know you guys have been down to TJ. Stop holding out. For example, we all know Efjayel gave the big black girl $100US again. So he might as well tell us how it was. See how easy that was!
LOL
TJ
[QUOTE=Reinaldo]I've never done Beatriz because she has a face only her mother could love but she's been known for giving good service for years.[/QUOTE]
Actually she looks like Condelezza Rice. Think about it!
TJ
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]TJ is away in Rio partying big time. I will hit the alley again on Thursday or Friday.
Where are the reports? I know you guys have been down to TJ. Stop holding out. For example, we all know Efjayel gave the big black girl $100US again. So he might as well tell us how it was. See how easy that was!
LOL
TJ[/QUOTE]
I only gave it to her cause she sat on me and with that humongous butt of hers I couldn't escape so I gave in.
Actually, I've been craving to be with a black girl. Not Beatrice though, I dont like BBW's.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]
Actually, I've been craving to be with a black girl. Not Beatrice though, I dont like BBW's.[/QUOTE]
Beatriz is no spinner but other than yourself I don't think anyone would describe her as BBW. Perhaps your memory is playing tricks on you since you don't get to Tijuas that often.
Maybe I'm mistaking her. The one black girl I've seen in TJ stands in the alley close to the opposite corner of Hong Kong. A big girl. Is that not her?
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Maybe I'm mistaking her. The one black girl I've seen in TJ stands in the alley close to the opposite corner of Hong Kong. A big girl. Is that not her?[/QUOTE]
No, it's not.
No Beatrice is not big at all. The black girl I was referring to is the one E is talking about across from HK.
Beatrice as R and I know is a morena or brown skinned Mexican. In the US, of course many blacks are her complexion or lighter. She is not fat but does look like Condi. She is very nice. Her hair is curly and she has a nice bush down there.
TJ
Well the black girl I saw was standing across the street from Hong Kong. But this was almost a year ago. I saw her there twice. And she was big.
If shes the complexion of condi rice then shes not a morena she would be black but lighter skin. Morena is like someone with dark hair tanned skin from what I know?
Moreno ADJ (piel, or skin) dark, dark skinned, swarthy; (pelo) dark, brunette
The University of Chicago Spanish Dictionary 5th Edition
ISBN-13:978-14165-3329-0
PS: I added the word skin for clarity.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Well the black girl I saw was standing across the street from Hong Kong. But this was almost a year ago. I saw her there twice. And she was big.[/QUOTE]
I agree... Although I recall seeing her there over the summer as well.
Pretty gross looking.
Just my 2 cents.
CC
Urban dictionary:
A spanish word used to describe Latinas who are tanned/dark (i.e., dark hair/brunette, dark eyes, dark skin) in varying degrees. Used in contrast to Gringa or Guedo for a White Latina, Negra for a Black Latina and Asianz aren't usually included in this definition.
Someone as light as Jessica Alba would be considered Morena esp. if she is brunette, through to someone as dark as Christina Millian.
[QUOTE=Tjmee]Urban dictionary:
A spanish word used to describe Latinas who are tanned/dark (i.e., dark hair/brunette, dark eyes, dark skin) in varying degrees. Used in contrast to Gringa or Guedo for a White Latina, Negra for a Black Latina and Asianz aren't usually included in this definition.
Someone as light as Jessica Alba would be considered Morena esp. if she is brunette, through to someone as dark as Christina Millian.[/QUOTE]You don't know anything. Morena varies in Latino Countries. Morena is black in many countries. Morena in Mexico is someone who is fair skin brunete to dark skin brunete.
How hard is it get from SAN to the border? Was going to take the bus and trolley. Or is there a better way.
[QUOTE=Ramprats]How hard is it get from SAN to the border? Was going to take the bus and trolley. Or is there a better way.[/QUOTE]You asked and was answered in the "Tijuana Report" section.
So I guess you are not going straight from the airport.
If you what help it would help to state where in SD you are going to begin your trek south.
Ramprats Trolley and TJ
([url]http://www.sdcommute.com/images/trolleySystemMap.jpg[/url] )
Taking Trolley is easy all you do is hop on the blue line and go until you reach the last stop.
Border Crossing After you get off walk across the pedestrian bridge which crosses the Freeway. Head south to cross the border you will pass by a large half dome building. When you get to Taxi area take a right and head west (If you are going during the day skip the Taxis. It is only a 15 minute walk) Go through the shopping center and you will cross a pedestrian bridge that crosses the river. After you get off the bridge you will see a street that is blocked off for pedestrians. You will see a large arch this the beginning of the red light district. Personally I recommend you go late afternoon.
I was wondering if there was such a train, that would leave from OC to the border, or do you have to just take the bus at the Santa Ana depot.
[QUOTE=Tjmee]I was wondering if there was such a train, that would leave from OC to the border, or do you have to just take the bus at the Santa Ana depot.[/QUOTE]
Take the train from OC to SD, walk across the steet in SD and take the trolley to the border.Very easy to do.
The best way to get to TJ from OC or LA. Is to take the train to SD,then walk across the street and take the trolley to border. This very easy to do. You avoid all the traffic going to SD and cost about the same.
[QUOTE=Tjmee]I was wondering if there was such a train, that would leave from OC to the border, or do you have to just take the bus at the Santa Ana depot.[/QUOTE]
There are no direct trains from OC to TJ.
You could either take Amtrak to the Santa Fe Depot in SD and then take the trolley to the border or take the OC metrolink line to the coaster in oceanside which will take you to SD and then take the trolley to the border.
Many SG'S are not coming back after Christmas Holidays. I talked to around 20 and 9 said they had enough of the slow business. All 9 said they will retire and settle down in their city, town, Rancho. Most said they were running out of money to pay bills. They would rather be in their own casitas and pay no rent bill etc.
Some gave me their home town cell number. I usually go to the interior of Mexico every year to visit relatives, I might drop by and say hola or GET A FREEBIE.
And will be about a 30 minute trolley ride to the border.
[QUOTE=Heyzeus]There are no direct trains from OC to TJ.
You could either take Amtrak to the Santa Fe Depot in SD and then take the trolley to the border or take the OC metrolink line to the coaster in oceanside which will take you to SD and then take the trolley to the border.[/QUOTE]
Could you give a little more specifics like where in L.A. or OC can I get the amtrak to the San Fe Depot and the cost, time.
And is the OC Metrolink option in any way better, faster than the Amtrak option? Also, price, time and so on.
I've heard someone mention that you can get a bus in the Santa Ana depot that goes directly to the border. Yes?
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Could you give a little more specifics like where in L.A. or OC can I get the amtrak to the San Fe Depot and the cost, time.
And is the OC Metrolink option in any way better, faster than the Amtrak option? Also, price, time and so on.
I've heard someone mention that you can get a bus in the Santa Ana depot that goes directly to the border. Yes?[/QUOTE]
Look on [url]www.amtrak.com[/url] for train routes and times. Among other places to get the train are Union Station, Fullerton, Santa Ana. The cost used to be in the $40 each way range. Haven't looked in a while.
I don't think Metrolink will be of much use.
$40 bucks!? Apparently with the new low prices of gas, it's cheaper to drive there now.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]$40 bucks!? Apparently with the new low prices of gas, it's cheaper to drive there now.[/QUOTE]
My bad. $40 round-trip, $20 each way.
It's still cheaper to drive. Today I just filled up my gas tank and it cost $20 bucks. A full gas tank gives me a round trip. Tj and back.
Take a bus, only $25 roundtrip.
Which one, and does it drop me off at the border?
[QUOTE=El Tijuanense]Many SG'S are not coming back after Christmas Holidays. I talked to around 20 and 9 said they had enough of the slow business. All 9 said they will retire and settle down in their city, town, Rancho. Most said they were running out of money to pay bills. They would rather be in their own casitas and pay no rent bill etc.
Some gave me their home town cell number. I usually go to the interior of Mexico every year to visit relatives, I might drop by and say hola or GET A FREEBIE.[/QUOTE]
Not to worry. That means there will be a new batch of fresh faces to take their place. It does't matter what the economy does, sex still sells.
The place to be is the bus station shortly after the new year. That's when you seem them arriving from all over Mexico to take up their new "positions." So while you're in the bowels of Mexico getting freebies from sloppy seconds, there'll be a fresh heard up here to break in!
The girls will be back. They're too greedy to stay away especially if they are still in good shape!
[QUOTE=Country John]Not to worry. That means there will be a new batch of fresh faces to take their place. It does't matter what the economy does, sex still sells.
The place to be is the bus station shortly after the new year. That's when you seem them arriving from all over Mexico to take up their new "positions." So while you're in the bowels of Mexico getting freebies from sloppy seconds, there'll be a fresh heard up here to break in!
The girls will be back. They're too greedy to stay away especially if they are still in good shape![/QUOTE]
Yes, let them go away and lets begin a new year with fresh pussy, it is about time, I want to see fresh faces, I'm pretty tired of seeing the same club girls every time!
[QUOTE=Country John]Not to worry. That means there will be a new batch of fresh faces to take their place. It does't matter what the economy does, sex still sells.
The place to be is the bus station shortly after the new year. That's when you seem them arriving from all over Mexico to take up their new "positions. " So while you're in the bowels of Mexico getting freebies from sloppy seconds, there'll be a fresh heard up here to break in!
The girls will be back. They're too greedy to stay away especially if they are still in good shape! [/QUOTE]I don't know about that, many new chicas have left the business, I knew like 15 that didn't last 3 months due to no money made, the other 9 were long time working chcas who couldn't pay their bills and instead left to their casa they built or bought. Business is real bad for the chicas, mongers have no feria (money) chicas have no lana (money) to pay their bills. The recession is hitting the working girls bad.
Oh well, I'm not dependent on them to get laid. I will be visiting my 20 year old amiga soon to be gf in Guadalajara, she is gorgeous. I will bring her up her to live with me. Lucky me: ] no more fooling around.
[QUOTE=El Tijuanense] Business is real bad for the chicas,mongers have no feria(money) chicas have no lana(money) to pay their bills. The recession is hitting the working girls bad.
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Well the solution is simple!
The girls need to lower the service rates to get more clients, example AB girls are greedy, they should go from $60 down to $40, beer down to $2, room down to $8 at least until the U.S. economy picks up again, just a thought?
These reduced prices still are pretty good for Mexico economy.
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]Well the solution is simple!
The girls need to lower the service rates to get more clients, example AB girls are greedy, they should go from $60 down to $40, beer down to $2, room down to $8 at least until the U.S. economy picks up again, just a thought?
These reduced prices still are pretty good for Mexico economy.[/QUOTE]These chica want to raise the price from 600 to 800 pesos.
They want to jack their prices up 33% and can not believe people will not want to pay it or that they even notice the price change.
If they left their prices at 600 pesos, they would make the same amount as before and we would pay about $40 US.
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]Well the solution is simple!
The girls need to lower the service rates to get more clients, example AB girls are greedy, they should go from $60 down to $40, beer down to $2, room down to $8 at least until the U.S. economy picks up again, just a thought?
These reduced prices still are pretty good for Mexico economy.[/QUOTE]The chicas are greedy and don't think of the recession hitting the mongers pockets,they just want their$60 dollars. They would get more business if they lowered their prices to mid 1990's($40 dollars)
[QUOTE=Sgt Perv]These chica want to raise the price from 600 to 800 pesos.
They want to jack their prices up 33% and can not believe people will not want to pay it or that they even notice the price change.
If they left their prices at 600 pesos, they would make the same amount as before and we would pay about $40 US.[/QUOTE]
The only problem is the quote you in U.S. dollars
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]The only problem is the quote you in U.S. dollars[/QUOTE]
They quote the currency they think you have.
I only use and show pesos ( I keep small bills in sight so they know).
I only ask for a price in pesos.
I am not even close to looking like I have Latin blood in me.
If they do say $60 US , I counter with 600 pesos real quick as I am pulling it out of my pocket.
[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]Well the solution is simple!
The girls need to lower the service rates to get more clients, example AB girls are greedy, they should go from $60 down to $40, beer down to $2, room down to $8 at least until the U.S. economy picks up again, just a thought?
These reduced prices still are pretty good for Mexico economy.[/QUOTE]
Doubt this will happen. Much like the stupid explosion of housing values in SOCAL, prices went up drastically over the last ten years and even though prices have gone down because of the current recession, they still won't ever go back to the what they where about 15 years ago where you can get something decent for under 100K. The same will apply to prostitute prices. I'm sure some will allow to go for less than the usual $60 rate, but they wont do it for long nor will they decide to go back to lower rates. They are used to those prices. They're not going back.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Doubt this will happen. Much like the stupid explosion of housing values in SOCAL, prices went up drastically over the last ten years and even though prices have gone down because of the current recession, they still won't ever go back to the what they where about 15 years ago where you can get something decent for under 100K. The same will apply to prostitute prices. I'm sure some will allow to go for less than the usual $60 rate, but they wont do it for long nor will they decide to go back to lower rates. They are used to those prices. They're not going back.[/QUOTE]So, when will the zona start having pimp foreclosure auctions?
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Could you give a little more specifics like where in L.A. or OC can I get the amtrak to the San Fe Depot and the cost, time.
And is the OC Metrolink option in any way better, faster than the Amtrak option? Also, price, time and so on.
I've heard someone mention that you can get a bus in the Santa Ana depot that goes directly to the border. Yes?[/QUOTE]
The train to San Diego leaves LA at Union Station, and stops at about 10 places on the way down: [url]www.amtrak.com[/url].
Metrolink only takes you to Oceanside, but you can take the San Diego Coaster train from there to downtown San Diego, and then to TJ via the Trolley.
If you get off the train in Santa Ana, there are two different bus lines that will take you to TJ from there. You need to go into the terminal to find them.
Been to Tijuana a few times for a few years. Picked up a streetgirl around 10 pm in the zone she wanted 20 for straight sex and hotel was 5. She hit me up for an extra 10 more if I wanted a BJ I talked her down to 5 so in total damage to her was 25 plus 5 for hotel. 1 dollars for condom.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939]If you get off the train in Santa Ana, there are two different bus lines that will take you to TJ from there. You need to go into the terminal to find them.[/QUOTE]
I can always drive to the Santa Ana bus depot but which buses, how much and how long? All the way into Tj or only to the San Ysidro Border?
Personally I don't think the buses are worth fooling with. The buses you that to go LA are these dirty old buses that the Mexicans use to go to LA. You are much better off driving to the border and parking.
Can we get back on topic please? Questions about transportation belong in another thread
Precisely, and it's not as though Effingliar is actually going to go anywhere.
Went down to TJ for some more Dental work and decided to check out the action. The selection of SG's was a bit limited today because of the rain I believe. Also walked over to Adelitas and there was not many girls working. Finally decided to see Karla and had another disappointing session for $25. This time Karla agree to suck and fuck sin ropa. This is the last time I am going to wast any more cash on TJ girls for quite some time.
Hizark, sorry you had a bad time, the SGs are usually IMO a disappointment. They charge less for less and the upsell is usually not worth it. I could see they were having trouble staying warm and those who were out were all in doorways trying to get some heat from a shop.
I have only found one SG that was really great about 4 years ago. There was one SG named Wendy that used to hang out in the middle of the Couhila alley. Wendy always made an extra effort to please.
[QUOTE=Hizark21]I have only found one SG that was really great about 4 years ago. There was one SG named Wendy that used to hang out in the middle of the Couhila alley. Wendy always made an extra effort to please.[/QUOTE]
There are some good street girls, but they are rare. Maybe 10-20% of the good looking SGs are actually good performers.
[QUOTE=Dornyone]Precisely, and it's not as though Effingliar is actually going to go anywhere.[/QUOTE]
I'll go. I went last friday.
I'm completely giving up on driving to the Zona from now on. Next time I go, it will be through amtrack then the trolley to the border. No more driving for me. I hate the long drive. I know it will take longer by train but at least I prevent the wear and tear on my car. Cause honestly I don't know how much longer my bucket is going to last. Plus I get to nap on the ride home.
As for Street Girl performance, the one and only girl I tried, the experience was horrible. I don't think I'll ever try a SG again.
I was down for a couple of hours early this evening and didn't see anyone I wanted to do. Both quantity and quality were in short supply.
[QUOTE=Reinaldo]I was down for a couple of hours early this evening and didn't see anyone I wanted to do. Both quantity and quality were in short supply.[/QUOTE]
Same experience here. Even my favorita was gone as well. Unless she moved to another bar. Next trip, I'm gonna have to do some investigating to find out where she's gone to. But they should all be back in droves by the end of the month I believe. So did you end up doing anyone?
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Same experience here. Even my favorita was gone as well. Unless she moved to another bar. Next trip, I'm gonna have to do some investigating to find out where she's gone to. But they should all be back in droves by the end of the month I believe. So did you end up doing anyone? [/QUOTE]It's getting better everyday! I was in Tropical Bar last Friday and Saturday and the talent level was rising! Some fresh new hot faces in Hong Kongs as well. The street seems a bit quite. Their is a real cutie named Maribel from Pueblo. She stands on the west side of Constitution about 10 yrds north of the alley that is a cutie. Tall and thin. I joke with her all the time. She always tries to get me to buy her a taco and or go arriba! I love the Carne Asada Quesadia at the stand on that corner! She is usually thier in the early afternoon and evenings.
IF I wasn't seeing my regular girl. She would be more than tempting!
Last time I was there about 2 weeks ago. I enjoyed the street girls. I do not care much for plastic tits so I avoid Adelitas. The show at Hong Kong was pretty good.
Picked 1st street girl up on side street near top of hill , young looking, sin ropa, chupla sin condom, 25, fair performance.
Then took a average looking girl from the back across from Hong Kong. Tremendous performance bbbj, cim, rim.
Went to side restrauant on same side of street, ate .
Then went back and repeated. Best rim job I have ever had. excellent service.
ciao
I hit the alley yesterday around 11am. There were plenty of girls out. I went with Lucy again. She gave CBJ, doggie, and missionary for 200 pesos. The room is still $3US. I was not into spanking or deep throating yesterday, so I took it easy on her. It is best to keep her on her toes anyway. Next time I will probably spank her good in doggie!
I left soon after the session. I was across the border and in the US a little after 12 noon.
side trip:
I then took the trolley to SE San Diego where I ate at a fried chicken joint. There were some hot women in their. One group of black, white, and Latino young ladies all where wearing short skirts, short shorts, and low cut blouses. All the guys were looking and all the other women were pissed. One group of black girls got up and walked out rolling their eyes.
In the old days I would have tried to chat the women up but now that I know the reality of the alley in TJ and centro in Rio I am cool and calm. It was still fun to sit back and look at that snatch when the women got up to leave. One girl really gave a show of spreading those legs when she got up (camel toe!).
After TJ I think I will make more of these side trips in SD.
TJ
I will be doing my thing again tomorrow, Saturday. I thought about going down tonight, getting a room at Pueblo Amigo and then leaving early tomorrow. But to save a little cash I will just take the trolly down tomorrow morning. I will leave TJ early, around 1pm. A few hours in the alley should be fine.
TJ
Alley was sort of slow yesterday (saturday) morning. I got there around 11am and the girls were out. There was one blond standing up there on Constitution when you first get into the zona. She had on a real short black skirt and guys (locals, too) were looking. She got lots of attention.
I went with Lucy in the alley again. She had in white spandex that showed off her butt and cameltoe! 200 pesos or $17 total .
TJ
The rain kept me from going down this weekend, so I will make a weekday trip, probably on Tuesday, to check out the action.
TJ
I now know of 2 Carlas. My favorite is the 19 year old lightskin one. She is full of energy and fun. Easily one of my top 10 SGs. Always had good service from her but she did go up on her prices ($5). She is smart and knows the exchange rate too.The other Carla did great service today. I hadn't seen her in months but she is back. Anyone knows what happened to Nancy (blonde?) She was really popular during the summer. She could pull 4 guys in a hour easily. I'm guessing some old gringo married her. Word got out about her good oral skills. But the quality decreased because she was overworked. Even a overworked Nancy BJ was better than 90% of the competition. Last time I seen her was a week and half before XMAS.
condom is included with room. Personally I think rooms are overpriced.
[QUOTE=Uncle Al]Been to Tijuana a few times for a few years. Picked up a streetgirl around 10 pm in the zone she wanted 20 for straight sex and hotel was 5. She hit me up for an extra 10 more if I wanted a BJ I talked her down to 5 so in total damage to her was 25 plus 5 for hotel. 1 dollars for condom.[/QUOTE]
What was the mid 90s rate for SGS?
[QUOTE=El Tijuanense]The chicas are greedy and don't think of the recession hitting the mongers pockets,they just want their$60 dollars. They would get more business if they lowered their prices to mid 1990's($40 dollars)[/QUOTE]
I think someone once mentioned it was $10-$15 bucks in the 90's and $5-$10 bucks in the 80's. Those must have been the days. Someone also mentioned it was about $10 for a bar girl in the $60's.
I really need to invent me a time machine.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]I think someone once mentioned it was $10-$15 bucks in the 90's and $5-$10 bucks in the 80's. Those must have been the days. Someone also mentioned it was about $10 for a bar girl in the $60's.
I really need to invent me a time machine.[/QUOTE]Keep in mind what wages were then though. I remember mid 90's minimum wage in California was $4.25. I don't know exactly what it is now, but its around twice that.
[QUOTE=Efjayel]I think someone once mentioned it was $10-$15 bucks in the 90's and $5-$10 bucks in the 80's. [/QUOTE]
Pay in pesos which BTW is the national currency and you still get them for on average $15. unless you want extra time or service.
[QUOTE=Cool]I.... She could pull 4 guys in a hour easily. .[/QUOTE]At least 15 minutes is better than the 5 minutes most of them give you to0 get off and then start squirming and tightening to get out or give more money.
I was in the alley for a few hours today during the afternoon. There were lots of girls out. I assume the rainy days hurt some pockets so they came out in full force during this dry weekend.
And the border line was not too bad.
I saw Lucy, she is around 35 years old but gives a good BJ. If anybody has gotten a BBBJ from her please let me know. Her friend Beatriz is still in Mexico City with family issues.
Lately Lucy has been wearing skin tight clothing and thongs. At times she wears pants so see-through you can see her thong.
She is not pretty but passionate. Smack that butt!
By the way. I always take $40 from my bank before going down (no fees) and then change at the cambio right near the guard station as you are walking into TJ. $40 is around 560 pesos, which is basically $56 US when the peso and dollar are even. So you get $16 extra dollars to spend. You CAN pay in US dollars in TJ but then you will just waste that $16, for example, because nobody down there is doing math calculations. To people on the street $40US is 400 pesos, when in reality it is 560 pesos.
TJ
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]I was in the alley for a few hours today during the afternoon. There were lots of girls out. I assume the rainy days hurt some pockets so they came out in full force during this dry weekend.
And the border line was not too bad.
I saw Lucy, she is around 35 years old but gives a good BJ. If anybody has gotten a BBBJ from her please let me know. Her friend Beatriz is still in Mexico City with family issues.
Lately Lucy has been wearing skin tight clothing and thongs. At times she wears pants so see-through you can see her thong.
She is not pretty but passionate. Smack that butt!
By the way. I always take $40 from my bank before going down (no fees) and then change at the cambio right near the guard station as you are walking into TJ. $40 is around 560 pesos, which is basically $56 US when the peso and dollar are even. So you get $16 extra dollars to spend. You CAN pay in US dollars in TJ but then you will just waste that $16, for example, because nobody down there is doing math calculations. To people on the street $40US is 400 pesos, when in reality it is 560 pesos.
TJ[/QUOTE]
Generally I take out 2000 pesos from the ATM @ the casino on Revo and last time was charged $141 by my bank.... So this really is the way to go. Money goes ALOT further, even when the bars charge 12 to 1 you still come out way ahead.
CC
A few months back you could save 30% easy by using pesos. But I just went down, and everyone (6 for 6 people I haggled with) had wised up to the strong dollar. For example, a chica who would go for $60 wanted 800 pesos.
I suppose you could find some stupider ones out there, but I think I'll stick to dollars next time.
[QUOTE=Two Dollars]A few months back you could save 30% easy by using pesos. But I just went down, and everyone (6 for 6 people I haggled with) had wised up to the strong dollar. For example, a chica who would go for $60 wanted 800 pesos.
I suppose you could find some stupider ones out there, but I think I'll stick to dollars next time.[/QUOTE]
I would not call them stupid, nor would I call those who haggle with you over the strong dollar wise. If the dollar is strong then it really should not matter to Mexicans since they are not Americans. The hagglers are not wise, they are just greedy and deserve nothing.
Basically, I go down to TJ all the time and usually pay in pesos as the dollar is usually equal to (10 to 1 is equal) or worth more then the peso. My guess is that some people may be a bit offended that more and more gringos are using pesos all of a sudden. It is not smarts but jealousy, envy, etc., that is making them charge you more. That you get a little more from your dollar should not affect them but it does affect somebody who probably has a beef with Americans anyway. You should avoid these people anyway because they are going to take advantage one way or the other. The dollar ruse is just another example.
On second thought once last year a Mexican, Andy the cook in Baja Fish Tacos, tried that crap with me. He haggle over 10 cents saying the dollar was worth less or more or something. I dropped the dime on the counter, put the tip I normally leave back in my pocket and walked out. I have never been back since.
Any Mexican who pulls this crap is stupid because you have the power here. Just walk away and ignore them. Or as most of us do, just negotitiate for a rate an then give them the pesos ($20 is 200 pesos, for example). Do not pay more.
Last, point are you sure they are charging you more because of a strong dollar? Perhaps, they are just raising their negotiating price because of hard times. They see a gringo and think they might as well try for more, perhaps.
TJ
TJ
[QUOTE=Party God]Keep in mind what wages were then though. I remember mid 90's minimum wage in California was $4.25. I don't know exactly what it is now, but its around twice that.[/QUOTE]
Lol, I remember getting paid that an hour when I worked at a McDonalds during high school.
[QUOTE=Two Dollars]A few months back you could save 30% easy by using pesos. But I just went down, and everyone (6 for 6 people I haggled with) had wised up to the strong dollar. For example, a chica who would go for $60 wanted 800 pesos.
I suppose you could find some stupider ones out there, but I think I'll stick to dollars next time.[/QUOTE]
But thats still only $54.
CC
I think alot of "them" know the rate but don't want to leave guys out in the cold who get paid pesos. More than 1/2 of the girls will give you the 10X1 deal. It was only in Aug. it was 10X1. Nancy's back! Didn't take her to the room though.
[QUOTE=Cool]I think alot of "them" know the rate but don't want to leave guys out in the cold who get paid pesos. More than 1/2 of the girls will give you the 10X1 deal. It was only in Aug. it was 10X1. Nancy's back! Didn't take her to the room though.[/QUOTE]
Yeah,that is the point I was making, too. It is the minority that tries to calculate the current rate to get more from you. 10 to 1 is normal. As i implied, guys like me who go down all the time and paid in pesos even before it became such a big advantage to do so, I have no problems. As COOL says, the girls do not know how you get paid and why you have pesos, so they take what you have at the normal rate. But if you are just a gringo who goes to TJ every blue moon, they are going to give you the "oh, but the dollar is worth more," crap which is really just a variation of the same, "screw the gringo because I am just a poor Mexican," theme.
Again, just walk away from these girls becuase they are NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU A GOOD LAY anyway!
For newbies or visitors what we mean is that in general you multiply 10 to the US dollar to reach the price in pesos ($60 US is 600 pesos). But when the dollar rises then ($60 US can currently be 840 pesos). So is you change your US dollars to pesos you have 840 pesos, which is like having $84US when going to a restaurant, etc.
In the redlight district, however, some guys are saying girls are raising there rates when gringos try to pay in pesos because they know you are getting over.
[QUOTE=Cobra Comander]But thats still only $54.
CC[/QUOTE]
Yes I know. My point was just that for a brief window, you could get 40% discounts if you exchanged your dollars into pesos. Now, we're back to the everyday rock bottom bargains. It's the same price to me, but the girls get more bang for my buck, so to speak.
Checking the curency exchange - the dollar is worth almost 15 pesos now. By June, the dollar will be even higher. So it would make sense for more of us gringos to pay by pesos since the exchange rate is now more in our favor. If one FL doesn't take the peso, then someone else will - MONEY is MONEY - if one chica turns you down, you can go to the next pretty one and she will 'do you' for the right price.
[QUOTE=Professor10]Checking the curency exchange - the dollar is worth almost 15 pesos now. By June, the dollar will be even higher. So it would make sense for more of us gringos to pay by pesos since the exchange rate is now more in our favor. If one FL doesn't take the peso, then someone else will - MONEY is MONEY - if one chica turns you down, you can go to the next pretty one and she will 'do you' for the right price.[/QUOTE]
Kmowing the girls, they'll probably accept pesos from locals and hold the line against gringos. If they make you as an American, they are going to ask for $20 dollars. If you are Mexican (or look like one and can play the game) you might be able to go arriba for $200p for a while yet.
[QUOTE=Two Dollars]Yes I know. My point was just that for a brief window, you could get 40% discounts if you exchanged your dollars into pesos. Now, we're back to the everyday rock bottom bargains. It's the same price to me, but the girls get more bang for my buck, so to speak.[/QUOTE]
Basically my point is that I generally spend a bit of money down there so when you add that $6 savings to all other ways the peso is cheaper I generally get out of Mexico spending roughly $100 less than I used to.
Like I only tip the waiters with a ten peso coin now. Stuff like that. When you add it all up it makes a big difference.
CC
That's a great idea - if you tip with a $10 peso coin - it still looks like a decent tip and in reality its about 65 cents. I think we can try and push the peso more. What if the 'gringo' is "Asian"? Would they be more inclined to accept it, rather than from a white, caucasian male? I will be back to TJ for my 5th trip in early June - I'll look to change some of my dollars into pesos on Av. Constitucion. Its a gamble since I don't want to end up with any pesos when I cross back over the border.
All this talk about money exchange to save money by hoping the chicas are dumb enough to take pesos instead of dollars. Just one of many tricks put against the girls. Then some of us wonder why where getting bad service. lol
[QUOTE=Efjayel]All this talk about money exchange to save money by hoping the chicas are dumb enough to take pesos instead of dollars. Just one of many tricks put against the girls. Then some of us wonder why where getting bad service. lol[/QUOTE]The chicas are not losing any money taking pesos. They pay their bills in pesos.
Their bills do not change according to the value of US dollar.
If the US dollar went below 10 to 1 , the chicas would increase dollar amount and this is only right because they would be losing money.
Them not taking the normal price in pesos is nothing but greed.
The 10 peso coin I have used for tipping since 2000.
They liked it then and they better like it now.
[QUOTE=Sgt Perv]The chicas are not losing any money taking pesos. They pay their bills in pesos.
Their bills do not change according to the value of US dollar.
If the US dollar went below 10 to 1 , the chicas would increase dollar amount and this is only right because they would be losing money.
Them not taking the normal price in pesos is nothing but greed.
The 10 peso coin I have used for tipping since 2000.
They liked it then and they better like it now.[/QUOTE]
Had to quote your whole quote as it deserves repeating time and time again!!!!
Next time I go I'm gonna ask one of the girls their price. If you ask in spanish, they tend not to say currency type just a number amount like, "Sixty." I'll quickly reply with, "Pesos!? Ok, lets go!" then get up and try dragging them upstairs just to see how they respond. lol
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Next time I go I'm gonna ask one of the girls their price. If you ask in spanish, they tend not to say currency type just a number amount like, "Sixty." I'll quickly reply with, "Pesos!? Ok, lets go!" then get up and try dragging them upstairs just to see how they respond. lol[/QUOTE]1. Don't ask. That is a mistake, you putting them in control forgetting you are the customer, they are at your mercy in todays market. Say you only have pesos ( the national currency) and offer 500p. She will most likely counter with 600P. Do the math you are getting her under $40 depending on the exchange rate.
2. Don't feel like you are going to insult them by offering the same amount they were going up for when the rate was 10.1. Use your cabeza.
[QUOTE=Ninguno Especial]1. Don't ask. That is a mistake, you putting them in control forgetting you are the customer, they are at your mercy in todays market. Say you only have pesos ( the national currency) and offer 500p. She will most likely counter with 600P. Do the math you are getting her under $40 depending on the exchange rate.
2. Don't feel like you are going to insult them by offering the same amount they were going up for when the rate was 10.1. Use your cabeza.[/QUOTE]You are offering SG 500 pesos? Am I reading this right, or is my math way off?
[QUOTE=Ninguno Especial]1. Don't ask. That is a mistake, you putting them in control forgetting you are the customer, they are at your mercy in todays market. Say you only have pesos ( the national currency) and offer 500p. She will most likely counter with 600P. Do the math you are getting her under $40 depending on the exchange rate.
2. Don't feel like you are going to insult them by offering the same amount they were going up for when the rate was 10.1. Use your cabeza.[/QUOTE]
I think EJ. was joking. My interpretation of his post is that the girls are quoting hig US dollar prices, such as 60, so he would agree to that IN PESOS, which is 6 dollars.
He was not serious, I am sure.
But then your post, NE, is a bit alarming. You end by implying that $40 is cheap for a street girl! I pay 200 pesos for everything and that is less than $18.
Perhaps you made a math error or typed the post late at night.
TJ
Of course I was joking.
[QUOTE=Sgt Perv]The 10 peso coin I have used for tipping since 2000.
They liked it then and they better like it now.[/QUOTE]
So where do you stick the coins?
[QUOTE=Two Dollars]So where do you stick the coins?[/QUOTE]I keep the coins in my pocket and hand them to the cum boys and waiters.
I guess you can try sticking them in the chica's slot and see how she act.
I am not going down there trying to act like I am rich.
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]
But then your post, NE, is a bit alarming. You end by implying that $40 is cheap for a street girl! I pay 200 pesos for everything and that is less than $18.
Perhaps you made a math error or typed the post late at night.
TJ[/QUOTE]
Since when have these topics between street girls and bar girls not crossed. I only assumed when the guy posted about arriba he was refering to a bar chica so I used bar chica prices. For street girls I too get it all for 200P. Sometimes more than all for only 500P for an hour.
Point is regardless of if the chica is in the street or bar use pesos and don't let them make 30 to 50% extra by insisting you up the peso amount they have been happy with for years. Regardless of the exchange rate this is a buyers market because there are a lot few buyers and almost as many chicas as ever.
[QUOTE=Ninguno Especial]Since when have these topics between street girls and bar girls not crossed. I only assumed when the guy posted about arriba he was refering to a bar chica so I used bar chica prices. For street girls I too get it all for 200P. Sometimes more than all for only 500P for an hour.
Point is regardless of if the chica is in the street or bar use pesos and don't let them make 30 to 50% extra by insisting you up the peso amount they have been happy with for years. Regardless of the exchange rate this is a buyers market because there are a lot few buyers and almost as many chicas as ever.[/QUOTE]
Well, since you, took an attitude I will reply in kind. YOU ARE ON THE STREETGIRL THREAD. tAKING AN ATTITUDE WITH ME IS RIDICULOUS! WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO KNOW THAT YOU ARE MAKING REFERENCE TO A BARGIRL ON THE STREETGIRL THREAD. Screwyou man! that is ridiculous.
I am not f'ing Nostradamous who can read your mind, jerk off.
Your reply is just silly.
And I have made the point many times that this is NOT THE BAR THREAD. So next time do not post here when you are referring to a bar girl because low and F'in behold most people cannot read your little mind!
TJ
[QUOTE=Ninguno Especial]1. Don't ask. That is a mistake, you putting them in control forgetting you are the customer, they are at your mercy in todays market. Say you only have pesos ( the national currency) and offer 500p. She will most likely counter with 600P. Do the math you are getting her under $40 depending on the exchange rate.
2. Don't feel like you are going to insult them by offering the same amount they were going up for when the rate was 10.1. Use your cabeza.[/QUOTE]
I already reported this post to the moderator, but will the poster please move it to the approporiate thread. Since the poster admits in a later post that he was not referencing streetwalkers then the post needs to be moved because it is misleading. Unless, of course, you can read the poster's mind.
TJ
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]Well, since you, took an attitude I will reply in kind. YOU ARE ON THE STREETGIRL THREAD. tAKING AN ATTITUDE WITH ME IS RIDICULOUS! WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO KNOW THAT YOU ARE MAKING REFERENCE TO A BARGIRL ON THE STREETGIRL THREAD. Screwyou man! that is ridiculous.
I am not f'ing Nostradamous who can read your mind, jerk off.
Your reply is just silly.
And I have made the point many times that this is NOT THE BAR THREAD. So next time do not post here when you are referring to a bar girl because low and F'in behold most people cannot read your little mind!
TJ[/QUOTE]
Jeez. Calm down. Unbunch your panties. We're all friends here.
I know NE personally. He wasn't copping an attitude. I thought the original post was clear, at least from the context. Nobody with any experience would fork over 500p to a SG for normal services.
Don't be so sensitive. :)
Hit the alley today around 1pm. Met up with Lucy in the alley, which is where one finds most of the street girls (I guess we must specify whether we are writing about girls on the street because this appears to no longer be them streetwalker thread despite the name).
Good time. 200 pesos. She gives a really good BJ.
Her friend Beatriz is still in Mexico City with family problems.
The alley was full of girls and the oing price ON THE STREET is 200 pesos.
TJ
Uh hum...Their pimps pay their bills in pesos.
[QUOTE=Sgt Perv]The chicas are not losing any money taking pesos. They pay their bills in pesos.
Their bills do not change according to the value of US dollar.
If the US dollar went below 10 to 1 , the chicas would increase dollar amount and this is only right because they would be losing money.
Them not taking the normal price in pesos is nothing but greed.
The 10 peso coin I have used for tipping since 2000.
They liked it then and they better like it now.[/QUOTE]
Anyone notice how slow this weekend was?
[QUOTE=Cool]Anyone notice how slow this weekend was?[/QUOTE]Yeah, I did.
I am thinking about going down today.
Does anybody know if Beatriz is back in town?
TJ
[QUOTE=Cool]Anyone notice how slow this weekend was?[/QUOTE]I was alone in Purple Rain.
I was in Tijuana a few weeks ago. The going rate on the street for a 25 year old sorta cutie is 200p (=15$? ), for an 18 year old its 250p. That's with no bargaining on my part. Of course the sex is the no touchie, mechanical kind, CBJ.
If anyone knows how to get real sex, with no "prohibidos, " please let me know.
I think someone once mentioned it was $10-$15 bucks in the 90's and $5-$10 bucks in the 80's. Those must have been the days. Someone also mentioned it was about $10 for a bar girl in the $60's.
[QUOTE=Drassel Cire]If anyone knows how to get real sex, with no "prohibidos, " please let me know.[/QUOTE]Dunno, get a girlfriend? j/k
Only advice I have is money talks.
[QUOTE=Drassel Cire]I think someone once mentioned it was $10-$15 bucks in the 90's and $5-$10 bucks in the 80's. Those must have been the days. Someone also mentioned it was about $10 for a bar girl in the $60's.[/QUOTE]Yeah but minimum wage in the 60's was about $1.30. That's like a hole days pay.
About $3.25 in the 80's. The $5-$10 dollars was the price for street girls.
And in the 90's from $4.25 to about $5.25. Also, the $10 to $15 bucks was for a street girl.
Minimum wage is currently $8.00 bucks. And no, I don't make minimum. I make about 4 times as much.
Is it possible to go TJ with some one in the forum than going alone?
How to co-ordinate with others?
[QUOTE=Santij]Is it possible to go TJ with some one in the forum than going alone?
How to co-ordinate with others?[/QUOTE]Well I guess you are asking if you can meet somebody from the forum in TJ.
Just say when (date) you can go , then ask for someone to PM you if they are going down then also.
Co ordinate via PMs
Got up early and was in TJ by 11am. Actually I was in the alley at 11am. I banged Lucy again. Totally nude, BJ, etc. for 200 pesos (currently around $15). Been paying this rate for years now.
The alley was full of girls today. I would suggest going down as the night is usually more packed than the day.
Oh, yeah, I notice that the desk lady always comes to the back near my room when I am in there. I think she is listening to the sucking and butt slapping, the perv that she is!
border return to US took about 15 minutes.
TJ
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]Oh, yeah, I notice that the desk lady always comes to the back near my room when I am in there. I think she is listening to the sucking and butt slapping, the perv that she is!
TJ[/QUOTE]
Well maybe if you didn't let the girl butt slap you she wouldn't be listening in. :D
[QUOTE=Efjayel]Well maybe if you didn't let the girl butt slap you she wouldn't be listening in. :D[/QUOTE]
HA HA.
TJ
[QUOTE=TJ Fannatic]HA HA.
TJ[/QUOTE]You actually posted "HA HA"?
I was there last week. Was not dead at all but was slow. A cutie in Adalita pushed for ficha. Sat with me for a long long time. Tols me the day before she had only one Arriba. The day she met me she had none so far.
Can anyone tell me if tipping a $10 peso for feeling (pussy) up or fingering a bar girl (or dance girl) at HK would be acceptable. As compared to the usual $1 (US) - that would be a savings of 30% if you think about it.
[QUOTE=Professor10]Can anyone tell me if tipping a $10 peso for feeling (pussy) up or fingering a bar girl (or dance girl) at HK would be acceptable. As compared to the usual $1 (US) - that would be a savings of 30% if you think about it.[/QUOTE]
This is the street girl thread, not the HK thread.
However, to answer your question, yes. Although 10 peso coins are a bit harder for both parties to handle than the $1 bill.
I'm a gringo that lives in Baja, due to a work assignment, and I thought I'd take a stroll through the areas where the girls work the streets. So, what follows is an impression from a first time visitor. I just had time to look, not touch.
Oh my god, I could not believe the variety and how hot the girls looked. There were a few skanks.- maybe 3, but the majority were 8s and 10s. Several girls had waistlines that looked to be 25 inches and bust sizes of 44DD. There were also quiet girls with big brown eyes, full lips, and shapely bodies. I felt like I was in a candy store
There were a few girls wearing school clothes that looked way too young. Not for me.
There was a lady that looked to be over 50 and she was sizzling. Nice smile, fill red lips, nice cleavage.
I know a little spanish, so I think that will help. The girls that are quiet and on the side streets got my attention
Now I'll do some reading here to learn the protocol.- such as room, condoms, time, etc.
[QUOTE=Neptuneprince]I'm a gringo that lives in Baja, due to a work assignment, and I thought I'd take a stroll through the areas where the girls work the streets. So, what follows is an impression from a first time visitor. I just had time to look, not touch.
Oh my god, I could not believe the variety and how hot the girls looked. There were a few skanks.- maybe 3, but the majority were 8s and 10s. Several girls had waistlines that looked to be 25 inches and bust sizes of 44DD. There were also quiet girls with big brown eyes, full lips, and shapely bodies. I felt like I was in a candy store
There were a few girls wearing school clothes that looked way too young. Not for me.
There was a lady that looked to be over 50 and she was sizzling. Nice smile, fill red lips, nice cleavage.
I know a little spanish, so I think that will help. The girls that are quiet and on the side streets got my attention
Now I'll do some reading here to learn the protocol.- such as room, condoms, time, etc.[/QUOTE]
If you had taken a lady you would have learned it all then. Twenty or so bucks for a very basic pump and dump session, more for a session "sin ropa", because she isnt getting naked for 20 bucks. Ten for the room and they have condoms.
[QUOTE=Naked Gunz]If you had taken a lady you would have learned it all then. Twenty or so bucks for a very basic pump and dump session, more for a session "sin ropa", because she isnt getting naked for 20 bucks. Ten for the room and they have condoms.[/QUOTE]You had better bring your own condoms unless you do not mine their extra thick condoms. Kinda like f*cking with a bicycle inner tube wrapped around Mr. Happy.
Sin ropa for $20 US is very possible as long as you bargain on the street for it first.
200 pesos MXN for sin ropa(without clothes on) ,possible depending on day and time.
Main thing is to make your complete deal ( amount of time, what you will get as for as sex and if it is nude) on the street and have your own condoms.
Room prices will vary depending on total time you want to rent the room.
I'm heading to tJ next week for a couple days. This time I want to stay at a hotlel right on the stip by Hong Kong and the SG's. I usually stay at Hacienda de Santiago but this time i wanna be right in the action for a few of the days. Is cascades safe? Or which hotel on Callejon Coahuila will have a decent room? Which one do the girls stay at?
Any suggestions?
[QUOTE=Jdhyamaha]I'm heading to tJ next week for a couple days. This time I want to stay at a hotlel right on the stip by Hong Kong and the SG's. I usually stay at Hacienda de Santiago but this time i wanna be right in the action for a few of the days. Is cascades safe? Or which hotel on Callejon Coahuila will have a decent room? Which one do the girls stay at?
Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]
I've stayed at Cascadas numerous times and yes it's safe. Being a guest at the hotel I have just walked the street or bar girls straight to my room. Three trips with chicas almost covers the cost of the room. There is a $10 deposit for the room key (card). I’ve always gotten it back when checking out. Plus get a few extra towels, $1 each, its nice to have between chicas to shower and clean up with. Also you might want to take your own soap and shampoo. Their soap is terrible and shampoo is nonexistent.
Ask for a room on the 5th or 6th floor. Since they redid the layout of HK it’s a lot noisier on the fourth floor. Check the room by walking in with the attendant when they take you up. If you can hear any music from next door, insist on another room, it goes all night
Yes, some of the girls live there. One time I ran into a couple of 9’s leaving to go out on the town on their night off. I struck up a conversation in the elevator. They looked hotter in their street cloths than their bar outfits and I told them so. They really liked that. We ended up going out to dinner, had drinks and went dancing. They were a lot of fun and we a lot of laughs. It was a great time.
As far as room security is concerned; the most I’ve ever left in the room was a daypack with monger overnight essentials: flavored condoms, lube, change of clothes, Pepto Bismol tablets, toothbrush, soap and shampoo. Upon returning it has never appeared as though anyone had gone through my stuff.
The rooms aren’t luxurious, they’re the same as the regular monger rooms on the right side but they’re convenient and they have the pornos. So you have that going for you… which is nice.
[QUOTE=Surfnk9]I've stayed at Cascadas numerous times and yes it's safe. .[/QUOTE]
I used to stay there all the time, but then they started charging $12 the 2nd girl. Do they still do that?
[QUOTE=SDcruiser]I used to stay there all the time, but then they started charging $12 the 2nd girl. Do they still do that?[/QUOTE]
Last trip was Super Bowl Sunday and it was no problem and never before that either. Then again it’s always been mid-week, never on the weekend. When checking in I ask for a room and talk to the desk guys and make small talk; how’s business? How’s the weather blab bla bla; always friendly with a smile. When leaving I say hi or at least acknowledge them. I don’t treat them like a servant; I leave that for the pesky waiters. When walking in with a babe I just nod and walk past them. They have yet to ask for more money.
Hope this doesn’t jinx it!
[QUOTE=Surfnk9]Last trip was Super Bowl Sunday and it was no problem and never before that either. Then again it’s always been mid-week, never on the weekend. When checking in I ask for a room and talk to the desk guys and make small talk; how’s business? How’s the weather blab bla bla; always friendly with a smile. When leaving I say hi or at least acknowledge them. I don’t treat them like a servant; I leave that for the pesky waiters. When walking in with a babe I just nod and walk past them. They have yet to ask for more money.
Hope this doesn’t jinx it![/QUOTE]
OK, I appreciate the information. I am aware of the respect issue. Maybe one day we will run into each other and swap tales of the many surf/fish villages along Mex1.
SDC
[QUOTE=Jdhyamaha]I'm heading to tJ next week for a couple days. This time I want to stay at a hotlel right on the stip by Hong Kong and the SG's. I usually stay at Hacienda de Santiago but this time i wanna be right in the action for a few of the days. Is cascades safe? Or which hotel on Callejon Coahuila will have a decent room? Which one do the girls stay at?
Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]Cascades and one attached to AB both are safe. None has AC. AB hotel has TV which all girls whom I brought thought to be a great luxury.
[QUOTE=Surfnk9]Last trip was Super Bowl Sunday and it was no problem and never before that either. Then again it’s always been mid-week, never on the weekend. When checking in I ask for a room and talk to the desk guys and make small talk; how’s business? How’s the weather blab bla bla; always friendly with a smile. When leaving I say hi or at least acknowledge them. I don’t treat them like a servant; I leave that for the pesky waiters. When walking in with a babe I just nod and walk past them. They have yet to ask for more money.
Hope this doesn’t jinx it![/QUOTE]Hotel next to AB allows unlimited AB girls for their price. Cascades: if you pay 30, you can take 1 girl (HK or Street - does not matter). If you pay 45 you can 3 girls for free.
I've never seen a tv in any of the rooms that the AB hotels use. I've been on both the second and third floor. They don't have a first floor, that's the Bar.
[QUOTE=Champak Lal]Cascades and one attached to AB both are safe. None has AC. AB hotel has TV which all girls whom I brought thought to be a great luxury.[/QUOTE]
Actually Cascadas does have A/C. They don't turn it on that often but I have been in the short term rooms when it's on.
All the SG I tried to take to my room (as opposed to their hotel), wanted like $10-20 more for doing so. Why is that?
[QUOTE=Champak Lal]Cascades: if you pay 30, you can take 1 girl (HK or Street - does not matter). If you pay 45 you can 3 girls for free.[/QUOTE]
One thing you might want to try which has worked for others in the past to avoid a fee for the second girl is to use other entrance. Another trick is to tell the girl to come to your room.
[QUOTE=Reinaldo]One thing you might want to try which has worked for others in the past to avoid a fee for the second girl is to use other entrance. Another trick is to tell the girl to come to your room.[/QUOTE]
Are you talking about an entrance on Coahula?
I’ve always just walked past the desk with the gals. Maybe it’s because I use my own condoms and have several towels already, so stopping at the front desk is not necessary. Plus I’m a mid-week guy, so maybe the gals and the hotel doesn’t want to lose potential business.
[QUOTE=Champak Lal]All the SG I tried to take to my room (as opposed to their hotel), wanted like $10-20 more for doing so. Why is that?[/QUOTE]
You'll get a more accurate answer if you're more specific about which hotel you're trying to get the sg's to go to but it could be for any number of reasons. For example, if you haven't been with the sg before she may not want to leave her comfort zone unless you make it worth her while. Some of the sg hotels keep their girls on a short leash so again unless you sweeten the offer she may want to avoid possible conflict with her usual hotel. If the sg has a padrote, he may not want her to go to other hotels unless she can justify it by making more.
Some sg's charge more to go to your hotel because they know gringos are willing to pay more if they do so.
Sometimes it has to do with the extra amount of time she would be spending away for her standing area.
If it is an extra 5 min. away for her post she would spend an extra ten min. (round trip) for your request and want compensated.
[QUOTE=Sgt Perv]Sometimes it has to do with the extra amount of time she would be spending away for her standing area.
If it is an extra 5 min. Away for her post she would spend an extra ten min. (round trip) for your request and want compensated.[/QUOTE]I have paid 5$s more than normal rate for travel to Leyva from callejon central (chavelas etc)
It all depends on. In order of importance
A. Does she think you are a security risk. The 10$s extra is to make you go away! If she has seen you around that drops to 5 or 0.
B. How the 'negocios', 'trabajo' is that day!
C, how well you stand your ground.
[QUOTE=Reinaldo]One thing you might want to try which has worked for others in the past to avoid a fee for the second girl is to use other entrance. Another trick is to tell the girl to come to your room.[/QUOTE]I tried the scond entrance but the guy knew I had brought one girl from the front (I do not know what their communication system is). I had given $ 2 to the desk guy at the check in also. In all fairness, it was a weekend and not many rooms were available.
[QUOTE=Sgt Perv]Sometimes it has to do with the extra amount of time she would be spending away for her standing area.
If it is an extra 5 min. away for her post she would spend an extra ten min. (round trip) for your request and want compensated.[/QUOTE]I see your point. Hotels in question were: cascades, one next to AB and one next to Tropicana (opposite to HK). They were not far. I understand the 5+5 minutes, but they are not "occupied" every minute of their standing there. I have often seen them waiting for customers for a long long time. Well, they decide their rules, I guess.
It’s easy to deal with gals wanting more dollars to go to your hotel. Just say:
“No problema, tu permaneces aquí. Hay mas chichas acerca del hotel, gracias.”
No problem, you stay here. There are more girls near the hotel, thanks.
Then walk away. If she’s worth it, she’ll be right behind you.
[QUOTE=Champak Lal]I see your point. Hotels in question were: cascades, one next to AB and one next to Tropicana (opposite to HK). They were not far. I understand the 5+5 minutes, but they are not "occupied" every minute of their standing there. I have often seen them waiting for customers for a long long time. Well, they decide their rules, I guess.[/QUOTE]I would add; Hotel Leyva, next to the Chicago, it is a good place and many girls live there. I was there for 2 months while getting my condo ready. If you take a room it will include parking, although, I do not suggest bringing a car across the border. I had a great time at the Leyva and when I am there am still called "Padrino" by the staff.
I got down there early today and met up with Lucy. She gave a nice slow BJ and missionary sex, sin ropa, 200 pesos total.
Oh yeah, it just occured to me what she has been saying about Beatriz, the morena. If you remember I said she told me Beatriz was with her mother in Mexico City because of a problem. But she kept saying she did not know when Beatriz was coming back. Now I think she might have said Beatriz is muerta (dead). I hope I am wrong but think not. I mean "mother" is not Spanish so why would she have said it? Damn, can somebody else ask her where Beatriz is and see what she says?
I will ask again next week. I had stopped asking because I thought she was just in Mexico City with her mother and only now did it occur to me that I need to slow down and really think about what she was saying in Spanish.
TJ
Hit the alley at 11am. The girls were out in full force. There does not appear to be a slowdown. The only real difference is that on the way to the alley I got asked for money 3 times from Mexican dudes. This used to be a real problem in TJ, but had stopped for about a year. Now they are back, it seems.
Lucy gave a good BJ. She rode me and then we finished in missionary position. All for 200 pesos (around 17 US dollars). The room was $3.
I asked her about Beatrice and she said Beatrice is at her casa. Then I said in Mexico (Mexico City) and she said yes. So I guess Beatrice is Mexico City and not coming back, EVER, which is what she was saying.
The border wait was only around 10 minutes.
There seem to be fewer Mexicans coming across and many fewer tourists, so enjoy it while you can. The girls were VERY agressive today. They need money. I would advise you guys to get down there and have fun while the tourists are away.
TJ
I should say that I don't usually like to patronize the sg's on Saturday. I've found they tend to clock watch more than usual which is understandable to some extent since Sat is busier than other days.
Anyway I happened to be in Tijuas anyway so I thought I'd check out the talent. I was less than impressed and left with out doing anyone. I walked back to the border and there 7 or 8 scumbags hanging out on the south side of the bridge over the river. It was still daylight but the fact that they were there means the police have stopped patrolling the bridge. Not a good sign.
[QUOTE=Reinaldo]I should say that I don't usually like to patronize the sg's on Saturday. I've found they tend to clock watch more than usual which is understandable to some extent since Sat is busier than other days.
Anyway I happened to be in Tijuas anyway so I thought I'd check out the talent. I was less than impressed and left with out doing anyone. I walked back to the border and there 7 or 8 scumbags hanging out on the south side of the bridge over the river. It was still daylight but the fact that they were there means the police have stopped patrolling the bridge. Not a good sign.[/QUOTE]
Police were patroling last night. You might want to try Sun. Sun has been slower than some weekdays since Feb.
[QUOTE=Reinaldo]I should say that I don't usually like to patronize the sg's on Saturday. I've found they tend to clock watch more than usual which is understandable to some extent since Sat is busier than other days.
Anyway I happened to be in Tijuas anyway so I thought I'd check out the talent. I was less than impressed and left with out doing anyone. I walked back to the border and there 7 or 8 scumbags hanging out on the south side of the bridge over the river. It was still daylight but the fact that they were there means the police have stopped patrolling the bridge. Not a good sign.[/QUOTE]No, it's not.
Thanks for the heads-up.
OK. I got down to TJ around 10:30am. I changed over $40 to pesos at the border. This is highly recommended as they do NOT charge any fees. Many of the spots in TJ charge fees even when they say they do not.
I got to the alley around 11:00am, maybe a little earlier. The girls were out in the usual number. I am thinking of getting back with Yvonne who stands on Art. 123. She is fairly pretty with a body that is getting plumper with age. I had left her alone after one incident where something crawled out of the wall while I was with her. The thing saw us and ran back. Damn, I thought! I hate that hotel!
Anyway, I picked up Lucy again and got a NICE BJ. Next time I am going to demand a BBBJ. She really gave it to me good. I think she gives BBBJ but gives covered BJ's until she "knows" you. Remember I was with her friend Beatrice for years but Lucy only this year.
200 pesos (17 dollars) total. Oh, yeah, she screamed and begged me to let go of her legs (I had them cocked up near her head). She came for sure. Now I know that being the first dude to get the girls makes a difference. You should have seen her face when she came! She loved it. Get there early and be first!
border wait was 30 minutes, which was strange. Lots of BS with guards leaving their stations, etc.
TJ
Do the girls get a kick back for bringing guys to the room. it seems like the answer is no.
[QUOTE=Cool]Do the girls get a kick back for bringing guys to the room. it seems like the answer is no.[/QUOTE]
Not 100% sure. But the street girls work their same hotel all the time so there is some sort of agreement. My assumption based on what I have been told by a white, American street walker (no established hotel) is that girls with no hotel connection are what the black pimps in the US refer to as "out of pocket." This means they are not playing the game the right way and bringing in money.
This white girl told me the cops pulled her aside her first time down there. Took her to a hotel room and slapped her around for a while. They told her to get her shit straight.
What I take this to mean is that she needs to be paying somebody! As i have said before I HAVE NEVER SEEN A RICH PROSTITUTE because they are almost always getting pimped by somebody. A hotel, cop, "boyfriend," or just a 100% pimp.
So no I am almost sure the girls are paying others not GETTING paid. However, I do know that the girls will at times LIE about the costs and collect the change. This is usually the case when she walks you into the room and then leaves to "talk" to the desk person even though she was just there. She is collecting the extra money.
TJ
Any of you all give oral to these chicas.
Just wondering.
I want to see what you all have to say.