I think its worth adding a thread for Non Thai women, as there clearly is a market for white women, and women of other nationalities who are operating as sex workers in Thailand.
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I think its worth adding a thread for Non Thai women, as there clearly is a market for white women, and women of other nationalities who are operating as sex workers in Thailand.
On Walking street there are some Non Thai women plying their trade in the evening time. They are usually from some of the former Russian states. Also I've seen some reports on other forums that some African girls are working in Pattaya. Expect to pay around 1500 baht for short time and apparently the service is generally poor.
Mixx Disco at the end of Walking street is supposed to have some Russian freelancers but I couldn't find any in Jan 2010.
I am heading over there next week, so I'll have a good scout and report back here on the Russian situation.
BTW the Russian clubs, Moulin Rouge and Galaxy on Walking street are best avoided as they are rip off joints, and the women in those clubs don't offer sex I believe, or if they do its at an extremely high rate, like well over $1000 dollars for short time.
Here is my report from Jan 2010 that gives some info on Russian girls working in Bangkok.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2183-Photo-Gallery&p=985104&viewfull=1#post985104[/url]
Any recent up to date info?
In your report you mentioned 10 of the women in the club were South American.
How did you know this? Could you provide more info?
Thanks!
I find the African chicks on Sukhumvit to be very pushy. Even if one is walking by with a girl in tow, they grab your hand and try to pull you in. I saw a guy the other day, walking with his GF or wife, and this WG grabbed him. The GF was not amused.
And these girls are not the prettiest. Looks like some heavy mileage on some of them.
1Ball,
Agreed. African girls can be very pushy, grabbing not just your arm, but your manhood at times. Somewhat naive behaviour, can be intensely annoying at times. Best not to retort with any remark.
Wanking,
Have only seen one black girl on the Beach road, did not appear to doing any shift work, just strolling by. I would assume it is just a matter of time before we see the African girls plying their trade on the Beach road. Being a lover of both Oriental and black girls, I would welcome this. A multicultural flesh market, suitable for Pattaya [b]and me[/b].
I would love to see Indian girls as well.
It looks like foreign sex-workers are now allowed to work in Thailand. And this wasn't the case just a few years ago.
Thai government probably is trying to attract more tourists by allowing more variety and choice for them.
[url]http://bangkok-premier-escorts.com/Bangkok_Premier_Escorts/Russians.html[/url]
Did anyone look at the web sight. 6000 baht for 2 hours and 15000 for all night. HOLY CRAP. This is not moscow. Bets on how long they stay in business.
[QUOTE=Dan7373; 1113051]It looks like foreign sex-workers are now allowed to work in Thailand. And this wasn't the case just a few years ago.
Thai government probably is trying to attract more tourists by allowing more variety and choice for them.
[url]http://bangkok-premier-escorts.com/Bangkok_Premier_Escorts/Russians.html[/url][/QUOTE]Pictures on a web site do not necessarily mean they are allowed to work in the country and in an illegal profession. Although Russians have been on several BKK escorts' sites for years now. If the Govt is endorsing this to attract more tourist, they need to tell the (Pattaya) police to stop busting these girls and deporting them. However, the chances of any of the Russian girls in the pics showing up at your door for a session are about as likely as snow in Thailand.
[QUOTE=Run Mann;1113077]Pictures on a web site do not necessarily mean they are allowed to work in the country and in an illegal profession. Although Russians have been on several BKK escorts' sites for years now. If the Govt is endorsing this to attract more tourist, they need to tell the (Pattaya) police to stop busting these girls and deporting them. However, the chances of any of the Russian girls in the pics showing up at your door for a session are about as likely as snow in Thailand.[/QUOTE]This kind of permission from the government is usually informal. They just stop enforcing the law, and that's it.
Officially, prostitution is equally illegal for both foreigners and Thais in Thailand. But this has never stopped the Thai ladies from doing this kind of work there, precisely because the police and the authorities let them do it, despite what the law says.
[QUOTE=Mackin;1113062]Did anyone look at the web sight. 6000 baht for 2 hours and 15000 for all night. HOLY CRAP. This is not moscow. Bets on how long they stay in business.[/QUOTE]If you surf this escort webtsite a little more, then you will see that 6000 Baht is what the Thai ladies and Lady-Boys there charge too.
Escorts normally charge more than massage ladies, bar ladies, and free-lancers charge.
Other than doing 1 friendly Russian / ukranian 30 year old who work in BKK by the subway sandwich joint 2 years ago for shit & giggles and a chance of pace for 1000B ST, there's no sense to travel 1/2 way aroud the world to pay the insane prices for a white chick when I go to Thailand for the sexy thai ladies.
A nice light coloured Indian woman, now that would be something nice to see & do in BKK or Pattaya, but I haven't found once yet, all I see are the indian "pain in ass" tailors who grab your hand & pretend to be your friend while they want to sell you a suit.
6000B ST & 12000 12hr escort agencies-thai, Russian or whereever these women are from-no thanks.
I guess I'm too much of a cheap charlie poor farang to pay those prices
[QUOTE=Dan7373;1113084]Escorts normally charge more than massage ladies, bar ladies, and free-lancers charge.[/QUOTE]Even the escort girs are doing one of the jobs that you mentioned.
[QUOTE=Member #3200; 1113144].
A nice light coloured Indian woman, now that would be something nice to see & do in BKK or Pattaya, but I haven't found once yet, all I see are the indian "pain in ass" tailors who grab your hand & pretend to be your friend while they want to sell you a suit.
[/QUOTE]If indian tailors would set up a side business as "barber shops" in China, their business would raise.
[QUOTE=InBrazilSoon; 1112870]In your report you mentioned 10 of the women in the club were South American.
How did you know this? Could you provide more info?
Thanks! [/QUOTE]I walked around the club that night and talked to all the Non Thai women there. I'd say there around 10 women from different countries in South America. Some fine big booty they had too.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2183-Photo-Gallery&p=985104&viewfull=1#post985104[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2183-Photo-Gallery&p=976532&viewfull=1#post976532[/url]
Man she was a dog!
[QUOTE=Wanking; 1112856]On Walking street there are some Non Thai women plying their trade in the evening time. They are usually from some of the former Russian states. Also I've seen some reports on other forums that some African girls are working in Pattaya. Expect to pay around 1500 baht for short time and apparently the service is generally poor.
Mixx Disco at the end of Walking street is supposed to have some Russian freelancers but I couldn't find any in Jan 2010.
I am heading over there next week, so I'll have a good scout and report back here on the Russian situation.
BTW the Russian clubs, Moulin Rouge and Galaxy on Walking street are best avoided as they are rip off joints, and the women in those clubs don't offer sex I believe, or if they do its at an extremely high rate, like well over $1000 dollars for short time. [/QUOTE]CM2 is the best bey for Non Thai pussy in Bangkok. I was there two months back and picked up beauties 3-4 times. Twice Russian. Once a Azeri and once a German (YES GERMAN!)
Good experiences all of them. Avg was 4500 BAHT long time in my room but for German I shelled out 6000 BAHT. I know too much but for me worth it when compared to Dubai or India. Although yea I know people would say FKK is just 50 Euros but hey it was Bangkok and you can't expect me to fly down to Germany and then go to a FKK!
Recently I have noticed that after CM2 shut the action shifts to Bossy! The girls also tend to bring their prices down then. My friend scored with a girl who he was after in CM2 asking 6000 BAHTS for 4000 BAHTS at 4am at this joint. So it entirely depends on your level of patience and negotiation skills. Being ugly doesn't help either as girls also like to score with Fit men and making them comfortable!
On average how many hours did you get with these girls? And were the bjs covered?
[QUOTE=Horny Landoora; 1113727]CM2 is the best bey for Non Thai pussy in Bangkok. I was there two months back and picked up beauties 3-4 times. Twice Russian. Once a Azeri and once a German (YES GERMAN!)
Good experiences all of them. Avg was 4500 BAHT long time in my room but for German I shelled out 6000 BAHT. I know too much but for me worth it when compared to Dubai or India. Although yea I know people would say FKK is just 50 Euros but hey it was Bangkok and you can't expect me to fly down to Germany and then go to a FKK!
Recently I have noticed that after CM2 shut the action shifts to Bossy! The girls also tend to bring their prices down then. My friend scored with a girl who he was after in CM2 asking 6000 BAHTS for 4000 BAHTS at 4am at this joint. So it entirely depends on your level of patience and negotiation skills. Being ugly doesn't help either as girls also like to score with Fit men and making them comfortable! [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Horny Landoora; 1113727]CM2 is the best bey for Non Thai pussy in Bangkok. I was there two months back and picked up beauties 3-4 times. Twice Russian. Once a Azeri and once a German (YES GERMAN!)
Good experiences all of them. Avg was 4500 BAHT long time in my room but for German I shelled out 6000 BAHT. I know too much but for me worth it when compared to Dubai or India. Although yea I know people would say FKK is just 50 Euros but hey it was Bangkok and you can't expect me to fly down to Germany and then go to a FKK!
Recently I have noticed that after CM2 shut the action shifts to Bossy! The girls also tend to bring their prices down then. My friend scored with a girl who he was after in CM2 asking 6000 BAHTS for 4000 BAHTS at 4am at this joint. So it entirely depends on your level of patience and negotiation skills. Being ugly doesn't help either as girls also like to score with Fit men and making them comfortable! [/QUOTE]Can you post some pics please. I'd really like to see what these high priced hooks look like.
[QUOTE=Wanking;1113745]On average how many hours did you get with these girls? And were the bjs covered?[/QUOTE]Well on an average I used to get the girls in my room say 2. 30. 3 am. They used to be with me till 9. 10 am. Except one honey stayed with me till 2pm AS WE LANDED IN room at 4am and we were at it 3-4 times. It was nothing less than a hardcore porn flick!
Yes the BJs were covered with some and uncovered with some I usually don't ask a girl how she's going to suck me as soon as I meet her since at the end if they enjoy your company and attention prior to the act they don't compromise on showering you with a see omplete GFE!
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1113829]Can you post some pics please. I'd really like to see what these high priced hooks look like.[/QUOTE]Sorry I did not click any pics neither I asked them. But can assure you in terms of Looks almost all were 9/10 and am not saying 10 just because everyone has their views and apart from that GFE. 10/10!
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1113829]Can you post some pics please. I'd really like to see what these high priced hooks look like.[/QUOTE]Many of the so-called "Russian" girls in CM2 are actually Uzbek from Russian ethnicity. But none could fit in (and even less stand out) in a good club in Tashkent. It's often girls that have reached the end of the line, and BKK or Pattaya is for them a kind of "last step" before a brothel for truckers in Fergana Valley.
Hot Uzbek (or Russian for that matter) hookers go to Dubai where they an earn muuuuuuch more. Then they can go to Thailand for luxury vacations.
I have been to CM2 only a few times and never saw anybody that I would consider paying for.
I prefer my girls around 25 and under 48kg.
[QUOTE=Prosal; 1114156]Many of the so-called "Russian" girls in CM2 are actually Uzbek from Russian ethnicity. But none could fit in (and even less stand out) in a good club in Tashkent. It's often girls that have reached the end of the line, and BKK or Pattaya is for them a kind of "last step" before a brothel for truckers in Fergana Valley.
Hot Uzbek (or Russian for that matter) hookers go to Dubai where they an earn muuuuuuch more. Then they can go to Thailand for luxury vacations. [/QUOTE]
In Bangkok you can find Africans on Sukhumvit Soi 3 around the Arab hotels (or in the clubs) and in the rest of the Arab quarter (apparently). Back over the summer some had migrated to Sukhumvit itself just before Soi 5 (where the overflow from the beergarden stands). Some of the ones on Suk where very hot. Did not see them on later visits.
As for Russians / CIS I never go looking in BKK, but CM2 has been mentioned but a number of people.
I understand there are two Russian Agogo's down in Pattaya, at least one of which is on Walking Street, but haven't ventured in. Expect to pay more than 1k Baht LT!
J.
Sorry if this question stems from my ignorance, but I was wondering whether anyone has STD statistics regarding African sex workers? Are they safe? Are there any decent looking girls among them? How about safety? Anyone has had problem with them?
What is location of CM2?
[QUOTE=Margaya;1116571]What is location of CM2?[/QUOTE]Its a club in Hotel Novotel in Siam
[QUOTE=Rivon;1116374]Sorry if this question stems from my ignorance, but I was wondering whether anyone has STD statistics regarding African sex workers? Are they safe? Are there any decent looking girls among them? How about safety? Anyone has had problem with them?[/QUOTE]Don't understand your question. You should wear a condom for any sex worker in BKK. How can you tell who is clean?
Even if they show you a health paper you should treat them all the same.
The same with safety. You are a farang that has money, you can't trust anyone.
A. B
[QUOTE=Rivon;1116374]Sorry if this question stems from my ignorance, but I was wondering whether anyone has STD statistics regarding African sex workers? Are they safe? Are there any decent looking girls among them? How about safety? Anyone has had problem with them?[/QUOTE]The answers lay within yourself, once you make the effort of meeting and evaluating the women in your presence. Instinct, Rivon. You have it within. All sex workers hold levels of risk, this is part of the thrill. Perhaps we will read of your experiences? Frown.
Wanking,
Superb idea this particular thread...Congrats!
[QUOTE=Rivon;1116374]Sorry if this question stems from my ignorance, but I was wondering whether anyone has STD statistics regarding African sex workers? Are they safe? Are there any decent looking girls among them? How about safety? Anyone has had problem with them?[/QUOTE]Statistics on the specific small and shifting population (of 100-500 African sex workers in Bangkok) can't possibly exist. They hail from Sub-Saharan Africa, which has countries with HIV rates of 5-25% (for *general population, not SWs) , so draw your own conclusions. I'm guessing they may be marginally safer in Bangkok than in Africa itself, since condom use is higher.
Physical safety is an issue as well, I haven't heard good reports about them, they're quite aggressive and far less compliant or predictable as Thais... but that's second-hand info, really, as this is one group I wouldn't try.
I think "Russians" (mostly Central Asians, actually) could be even less safe disease-wise, since they tend to be older and have more mileage than the Africans. They're mostly rejects who can no longer command decent prices in their native Messedupistan...
There are Central Asian girls to be found In BKK around Sukh soi3, many are on the large side, as the Arabs are their customers, but you do see a few youngers & cute ones there In and around the Grace hotel.
The Africans are also to be found around Soi3, last time I was there they were not that hot, but I have heard that recently some nicer ones can be found, just watch out for their African pimps, there was a crack down not long ago by the BiB on these fellas, obviously someone missed their tea money.
The Russian girls at Cm2 are mostly again Central Asian, even though they might say they're from Moscow and Kiev blah blah blah, you can find some hot ones In here, but the prices are high, you do need to discuss how long she expects to stay, you don't want to pay 8k for a 2hr ST,
Central Asians are also to be found around WS and the Arab quarter of Pattaya, most are well past their prime, but the Arab / Indian guys seem to still like them. Forget about the Galaxy pole dancers, they are from Ukraine, Baltic and Romania etc. They are there to make money from drinks and private dances In the club, they are not allowed to fuck for money.
[QUOTE=Asia Butterfly; 1117108]Don't understand your question. You should wear a condom for any sex worker in BKK. How can you tell who is clean?
Even if they show you a health paper you should treat them all the same.
The same with safety. You are a farang that has money, you can't trust anyone.
A. B[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Noddy;1117174]The answers lay within yourself, once you make the effort of meeting and evaluating the women in your presence. Instinct, Rivon. You have it within. All sex workers hold levels of risk, this is part of the thrill. ![/QUOTE]I think you misunderstood my concerns. I wasn't implying that I prefer barebacking, far from it. I'm actually very cautious of my behavior and even sometimes go an extra mile to protect myself. My questions was mostly seeking to see how other BM's experience have been with African workers. Because, health wise, normally condoms only protect from certain infections but not all. So if the reports statistically suggest that the mongers have had issues in this regard after dealing with this particular clique, then you might reconsider. No wearing condom in Thailand = sheer stupidity.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp; 1117964]Statistics on the specific small and shifting population (of 100-500 African sex workers in Bangkok) can't possibly exist. They hail from Sub-Saharan Africa, which has countries with HIV rates of 5-25% (for *general population, not SWs) , so draw your own conclusions. I'm guessing they may be marginally safer in Bangkok than in Africa itself, since condom use is higher.
Physical safety is an issue as well, I haven't heard good reports about them, they're quite aggressive and far less compliant or predictable as Thais. But that's second-hand info, really, as this is one group I wouldn't try.
I think "Russians" (mostly Central Asians, actually) could be even less safe disease-wise, since they tend to be older and have more mileage than the Africans. They're mostly rejects who can no longer command decent prices in their native Messedupistan. [/QUOTE]That's actually a very valid point. I had not realized that the domain of African workers was in 100's, which as you suggested, makes the "statistical" guessing a futile one. Thanks for bringing that up.
[QUOTE=Jerboa; 1120097]There are Central Asian girls to be found In BKK around Sukh soi3, many are on the large side, as the Arabs are their customers, but you do see a few youngers & cute ones there In and around the Grace hotel.
The Africans are also to be found around Soi3, last time I was there they were not that hot, but I have heard that recently some nicer ones can be found, just watch out for their African pimps, there was a crack down not long ago by the BiB on these fellas, obviously someone missed their tea money.
The Russian girls at Cm2 are mostly again Central Asian, even though they might say they're from Moscow and Kiev blah blah blah, you can find some hot ones In here, but the prices are high, you do need to discuss how long she expects to stay, you don't want to pay 8k for a 2hr ST,
Central Asians are also to be found around WS and the Arab quarter of Pattaya, most are well past their prime, but the Arab / Indian guys seem to still like them. Forget about the Galaxy pole dancers, they are from Ukraine, Baltic and Romania etc. They are there to make money from drinks and private dances In the club, they are not allowed to fuck for money. [/QUOTE]I'm very tempted to try Grace hotel's disco. How's the atmosphere there? Are they only receptive of Middle Eastern punters? Are there an actual ME girls in the mix or only BG's who cater to ME guys?
The BiB raid was more about drug dealers and not pimps if I'm not mistaken. Africans are pushing into certain areas that they hadn't a few years ago.
Places like Galaxy are rip offs, and frankly, I believe they only serve as a business front-end for Russian money laundry skim back home.
[QUOTE=Johnsue; 1114807]In Bangkok you can find Africans on Sukhumvit Soi 3 around the Arab hotels (or in the clubs) and in the rest of the Arab quarter (apparently). Back over the summer some had migrated to Sukhumvit itself just before Soi 5 (where the overflow from the beergarden stands). Some of the ones on Suk where very hot. Did not see them on later visits.
As for Russians / CIS I never go looking in BKK, but CM2 has been mentioned but a number of people.
I understand there are two Russian Agogo's down in Pattaya, at least one of which is on Walking Street, but haven't ventured in. Expect to pay more than 1k Baht LT!
J[/QUOTE]I remember that there was a real concentration of Africans after 3am on Suk Soi 13. Actually, I'm not racist but I had the same concern with people coming from countries with high HIV occurrances. What I observed was that some of the regular bar girls who I knew in the area were sitting and drinking at these tables. Not sure if these girls went with any of these guys but I definitely would not bf any of these girls afterwards. Damn, I sound racist but I've sat and had beers with these guys and sure, nice enough and will make conversations but definitely at higher risk being directly from countries with high HIV occurrances.
[url]www.sextoylinda.escort-site.com[/url]
Anybody have experience with her? She is apparently Russian
[QUOTE=Clint Eastwood; 1122164][url]www.sextoylinda.escort-site.com[/url]
Anybody have experience with her? She is apparently Russian[/QUOTE]I posted about her here:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2454-Bangkok-Escort-Agencies&p=1122413#post1122413[/url]
Yes, Russian. With that bad a bolt-on job, I'd be surprised if anyone here has booked her.
In one of her emails she told that she will be in BKK for 2 months and that she is from Poland. But suddently she got silent and didn't reply to my inquiries.
Cheers!
After spending almost 3 weeks in Pattaya recently, (Jan 19th. Feb 6th) I can verify that the selection of Foreign Sexworkers is poor, and due to the low overall quality I stuck with the Thai women.
[b]Black Women:[/b]
I saw around 6 women in their early 20's who all claimed to be from Madagascar. They were either walking up and down Walking Street in the evening or hanging out in Mixx Disco. I thought they were all on the ugly side and I didn't see them do much business. They seemed friendly enough and not aggressive. They wanted 1000 ST and 2000 LT. Had they been sexier I might have tried one.
[b]Russian- Uzbekistan:[/b]
All the older white women who parade up and down Walking street approaching Middle Eastern men are all apparently Uzbek and they claim to be Russian. One of my beach road Freelancer ladies told me there are about 30 Uzbek ladies in Pattaya at the moment. They also hang out in the Arab part of town.
Most are 40 years plus, and they charge 1500 ST and 3000 LT. Again due to the bad quality I didn't bother sampling.
There were also two young sexy Uzbek ladies hanging out in Mixx Disco. I saw them on 3 different nights, a young beautiful blonde and a slightly older but still sexy Brunette. A local Freelancer told me that they can command big money, like 3000 ST and 6000 LT, and that they do a lot of LT business with Wealthy Middle Easterners because they are the only two sexy young Uzbek ladies around. The nights I saw them in Mixx they were always in company with men.
If the Blonde had been available I would have tried her.
[b]Russian Tourists:[/b]
There are a lot of Russian women around, and some of these women seem to be alone. Mixx disco is again the best place to find these women. I was told that some of them are on the game, but I approached many and they showed no interest, so it would appear they are not. I think these women are on the look out for men but just like back home, you must be young, tall, good looking and preferably wealthy. Its frustrating all the sexy blondes in Pattaya now, and none are available.
[b]The European Go-Gos:[/b]
Galaxy Cabaret and Moulin Rouge on Walking street have European Women working but they are not available for sex. The women in these rip off clubs are just hostesses who earn money from lap dances and tips. Although I have heard of guys making arrangements privately with these girls but nothing is guaranteed.
Photos below:
These pics are of the various Uzbek women who parade up and down Walking street at night. Most are well beyond their prime.
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Got into BKK in the late afternoon.
I was looking forward to a night of debauchery, only to find that my fellow punters were delayed and that it was Buddah day. So while restaurants were open and a beer was possible, anything harder or hardier was on hold for another day.
Wound up walking around between Soi 18 up to Nana plaza. The requisite lady boy parade was around and somewhat aggressive. Slow business night I guess. Then again, some of them REALLY make an effort to look feminine. One pair in particular was 5'9" and 5'11". Damn that height just gives them away, despite the long shapely legs. (did I mention they really worked hard at it?)
The chorus of Thai ladies were congregating outside of the Thermae and in front of the Nana disco.
A few conversations but not a lot of progress. The Taxi. Tuk Tuk touts were working the soapy massage angle and getting pushy about handing out flyers.
One of the things I noticed around Soi 2-4 was the abundance of African women. Obviously working. A few looked hardened and a few more strung out. Reputedly from Kenya and Nigeria but not all that attractive if one's objective is a LBFM experience. Where B stands for BROWN.
One word of caution. It seems while the ladies were just hanging loose, some rather sinister looking blokes of the same persuasion were not far nursing beers and looking over the flock.
Personally, I have not partaken in these foreign sex workers efforts, some basic street smarts come in to question:
(1) If there is a hassle with a Thai, the locals have ways of finding and correcting what ever the hassle is.
(2) The worst rip off stories are usually foreign on foreign here in the LOS. I call it the I trusted someone who looked like me and spoke my language trap.
(3) The African "pimps" if that's what they were, seemed a little too intent on the flock and a simple service may become more trouble than it's worth.
Yeah, not much of a mongering story.
Then again, the idea of a forum is to share the current market conditions.
Hope to have a more interesting update shortly.
JB
[QUOTE=Wanking;1124756]After spending almost three weeks in Pattaya recently (Jan. 19th - Feb. 6th) I can verify the selection of foreign sex workers is poor. Due to the low overall quality I stuck with Thai women.[/QUOTE]Excellent report! And well written too! Just the type of helpful information that keeps me coming back to ISG.
Thanks to Mr. Wanking for taking the time to post.
Bunky
[QUOTE=Rivon; 1120408]I'm very tempted to try Grace hotel's disco. How's the atmosphere there? Are they only receptive of Middle Eastern punters? Are there an actual ME girls in the mix or only BG's who cater to ME guys?
The BiB raid was more about drug dealers and not pimps if I'm not mistaken. Africans are pushing into certain areas that they hadn't a few years ago.
Places like Galaxy are rip offs, and frankly, I believe they only serve as a business front-end for Russian money laundry skim back home. [/QUOTE]Well money Is money, the Grace FL's will take anyones baht, just they might be surprised a non arab wants them.
[QUOTE=Clint Eastwood; 1122164][url]www.sextoylinda.escort-site.com[/url]
Anybody have experience with her? She is apparently Russian[/QUOTE]No chance 10k minimum rate, and no photos! I can get Polish girls In UK for £40
[QUOTE=Wanking; 1124756]After spending almost 3 weeks in Pattaya recently, (Jan 19th. Feb 6th) I can verify that the selection of Foreign Sexworkers is poor, and due to the low overall quality I stuck with the Thai women.
[b]Black Women:[/b]
I saw around 6 women in their early 20's who all claimed to be from Madagascar. They were either walking up and down Walking Street in the evening or hanging out in Mixx Disco. I thought they were all on the ugly side and I didn't see them do much business. They seemed friendly enough and not aggressive. They wanted 1000 ST and 2000 LT. Had they been sexier I might have tried one.
[b]Russian- Uzbekistan:[/b]
All the older white women who parade up and down Walking street approaching Middle Eastern men are all apparently Uzbek and they claim to be Russian. One of my beach road Freelancer ladies told me there are about 30 Uzbek ladies in Pattaya at the moment. They also hang out in the Arab part of town.
Most are 40 years plus, and they charge 1500 ST and 3000 LT. Again due to the bad quality I didn't bother sampling.
There were also two young sexy Uzbek ladies hanging out in Mixx Disco. I saw them on 3 different nights, a young beautiful blonde and a slightly older but still sexy Brunette. A local Freelancer told me that they can command big money, like 3000 ST and 6000 LT, and that they do a lot of LT business with Wealthy Middle Easterners because they are the only two sexy young Uzbek ladies around. The nights I saw them in Mixx they were always in company with men.
If the Blonde had been available I would have tried her.
[b]Russian Tourists:[/b]
There are a lot of Russian women around, and some of these women seem to be alone. Mixx disco is again the best place to find these women. I was told that some of them are on the game, but I approached many and they showed no interest, so it would appear they are not. I think these women are on the look out for men but just like back home, you must be young, tall, good looking and preferably wealthy. Its frustrating all the sexy blondes in Pattaya now, and none are available.
[b]The European Go-Gos:[/b]
Galaxy Cabaret and Moulin Rouge on Walking street have European Women working but they are not available for sex. The women in these rip off clubs are just hostesses who earn money from lap dances and tips. Although I have heard of guys making arrangements privately with these girls but nothing is guaranteed. [/QUOTE]Good post Wanking, I've had a similar experience In Patts, the old Uzbekis are not for farang mongers, the arab guys seem happy with them so different tastes, but you do see the od couple that are nice patrolling up and down WS.
There are some hot Russian tourists about, who are looking for fun, no evidence that they are on the game, maybe someone mistaking them for the Uzbekis, like you say depends on you and her, but Russian girls can be fun once you put some vodka In them.
The Euro pole dancing clubs again aren't targeted at farangs, but asian tourists who want to see white euro girls dancing, I have heard you can BF them at a big $, but only to take them out for dinner LOL.
I posted some photos of Ukrainian dancers I met sitting and drinking on a curb near the condo in which I was staying in Pattaya. Here's the link:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2186-Pattaya-Reports&p=1112492&viewfull=1#post1112492 [/url]
I got to know one of these girls fairly, but not in the Biblical sense. She steadfastly maintained she doesn't do P4P.
Below are photos of two African ladies working Walking Street in Pattaya. A very tough looking African pimp was hovering nearby, but he escaped my lens. He DIDN'T want his picture taken.
In short. The scene for non-Thai P4P providers in both BKK and Pattaya is grim. Zero attractive ladies and because of street-level pimps, it could turn into a nightmare situation
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Evil.
African girls in Walking street. All very new, just three or so months back there were literaly zero, this was an inevatability as far as I was concerned. Progress? We see how this gets to reflect on the market place in Pattaya in future. I did get to see several African strollers my last visit. The presence of African pimps is bad news, however. Lot of mongers will not be comfortable with the hindrance. Pimps will have to learn to get lost.
Lets hope for a positive outcome. More variety, perhaps a bit of a wake up call to the local girls, now they better perform.
The snaps you took, EP, the girls are rather pleasant looking, not too bad on the attitude front.
[QUOTE=Noddy;1125894]The snaps you took, EP, the girls are rather pleasant looking, not too bad on the attitude front.[/QUOTE]I agree the girls are much pleasant looking than I saw in BKK last. Could rate them at par in terms of looks with some hot beauties in Dubai. Although for attitude it is my policy now to judge the book by its cover after some bad experiences. African ladies I have had do not enjoy a great repo as it is after they are in bed and looking to just finish to extract cash!
Evil were you able to check out the prices or get an Idea on what their terms are?
[QUOTE=Horny Landoora; 1126024]I agree the girls are much pleasant looking than I saw in BKK last. Could rate them at par in terms of looks with some hot beauties in Dubai. Although for attitude it is my policy now to judge the book by its cover after some bad experiences. African ladies I have had do not enjoy a great repo as it is after they are in bed and looking to just finish to extract cash!
Evil were you able to check out the prices or get an Idea on what their terms are? [/QUOTE]No, ebony ladies aren't my preference. What I understand from others is that they ask between 2, 000 and 3, 000 baht for S / T and they want the money up front, just like Western hookers do. And for them, S / T is 15 minutes, not two hours.
Everyone has their own take on this, but I never deal with girls who are run by street pimps. All the African streetwalkers in Patts and BKK are heavily pimped. The same for the Uzbeks.
Evil
[QUOTE=Evil Penivel; 1126038]All the African streetwalkers in Patts and BKK are heavily pimped. The same for the Uzbeks.
Evil[/QUOTE]Two Russians / Uzbeks on Coconut bar (Beach Road.) this afternoon around Soi 13 just after the rain stopped.
They claimed to be from Moscow but "who knows." (There was NO pimp that I could see around)
They were asking me 1000 Baht S / T.
The younger blonde one was rather cute but did not to go for my standard offer of 500 Baht For an afternoon playmate.
So, I walked another 20 paces and found a slightly older (35 year old) Thai girl, tall and with a BEAUTIFUL body.
She passed my job interview with flying colours and was more than happy to accept my kind offer of 500.
Now. More than 2 hours later she just left my hotel.
She LOVED oral and must have spent around 1 hour sitting on my face or 69'ing.
Anybody have a remedy for STS (Sore Tongue Syndrome?)
Hotman.
[QUOTE=Wanking; 1124756]There were also two young sexy Uzbek ladies hanging out in Mixx Disco. I saw them on 3 different nights, a young beautiful blonde and a slightly older but still sexy Brunette. A local Freelancer told me that they can command big money, like 3000 ST and 6000 LT, and that they do a lot of LT business with Wealthy Middle Easterners because they are the only two sexy young Uzbek ladies around. The nights I saw them in Mixx they were always in company with men.
These may well be the 2 that I saw on Beach Road this afternoon. (They wanted 1000 Baht S. T.) Younger CUTE blond with shortish hair and an older brunettte. Claimed to be from Moscow!
Hotman.
[QUOTE=Hotman 666; 1126058]
[QUOTE=Wanking; 1124756]These may well be the 2 that I saw on Beach Road this afternoon. (They wanted 1000 Baht S. T.) Younger CUTE blond with shortish hair and an older brunettte. Claimed to be from Moscow!
Hotman. [/QUOTE]The blonde in Mixx had long blonde hair, but who knows maybe its them.
Would be great if you could get some pics.
Cheers.
WK
Yawn. What else is new?
[QUOTE=Hotman 666; 1126056]Anybody have a remedy for STS (Sore Tongue Syndrome?)
Hotman. [/QUOTE]Stick it in a wet environment that is not your own mouth.
Are there any places in Bangkok with Chinese or Vietnamese ladies like in Singapore?
Are there places hidden in Chinatown? And is it locals only or will they let us in?
I have been to Chinatown hundreds of times in the daytime but never saw any Chinese places,
If you do not want to put it out in public you can PM me.
Thanks.
BK
[QUOTE=BKK Dreaming; 1128065]Are there any places in Bangkok with Chinese or Vietnamese ladies like in Singapore?
Are there places hidden in Chinatown? And is it locals only or will they let us in?
I have been to Chinatown hundreds of times in the daytime but never saw any Chinese places,
If you do not want to put it out in public you can PM me.
Thanks.
BK[/QUOTE]You don't seem to find so many foreign ladies as you do In Singers and HK, Chinatown's scene Is there for the locals, but there Is no stopping farangs having a go, I have heard that some of the ladies are Chinese, not to sure about that.
[QUOTE=BKK Dreaming;1128065]Are there any places in Bangkok with Chinese or Vietnamese ladies like in Singapore? I have been to Chinatown hundreds of times in the daytime but never saw any Chinese places
[/QUOTE]
Orchard Towers it is not, but...
There's a brothel with Chinese women smack in the middle of Yaowarat, about 50m from the corner of Soi Texas (the junction with outdoor food places overflowing into the main road).
In this picture, it would be just outside of the bounds to the left:
[url]http://www.flickr.com/photos/queenofoeb/60409150/[/url]
This is another view of Soi Texas (the place is on Yaowarat road itself near Texas intersection):
[url]http://www.panoramio.com/photo/10714745[/url]
The place is called Broadway hotel, but you won't see the sign unless you look up and scan carefully. Easiest is to just walk along Yaowarat from the junction, looking into the doorways. You'll normally see 2-10 Chinese hookers sitting on the stairway and some may call you. Sometimes, they walk Soi Texas and surrounding areas as well. They look rather different from Thais.
Chinese women working at or near Broadway range in age from early 20s to 50s, but not all are present at any given time (you're likely to see 20% of what's available). I think the best time to go is late afternoon. 5-7pm or so (but it varies, no hard rule here).
Price is 300-800 baht for a quick poke, although they try to ask for more. Negotiate hard and try to pay towards the lower end. It's Chinese style, and don't worry, no matter how little you pay, they'll try to deliver *less. You can always pay them more in the room if necessary (e. G. 100 for a BJ). Even if you pay them 1500, they won't just include it without a struggle.
The room is 70 baht (unless the attendant is sleeping, then it's free). Ask for a room one with a toilet (otherwise you may get a really crappy one). You can also go to a different place (small soi parallel to Soi Texas has a better ST hotel next to the massage place for 150 baht).
Service quality is truly crap compared to anything you experienced in Thailand, but it costs next-to-nothing so it's still worth a try for the novelty factor. Be prepared, some V is advised, as they won't try to make you particularly horny. Once in the room, the women demand money in advance, but you'll have better service if you manage to convince them to pay after. I get a sense they're semi-freelancers. Not much structure in the whole deal (I've managed to take a rare good one home for 1500/3h and had an OK time, better than at the hotel). They probably work on their own, but pay the rent / protection (not a cut of each service). No obvious pimp presence.
They generally don't speak Thai (much less English) , so communication will be a problem. However, near Broadway / Soi Texas it's obvious what the transaction is about, easy to deal. There are a lot of *****ish looking Chinese women milling around 2nd floor from Lotus (Th Mangkon) with massage, tea and karaoke shops. However, in that place the setup is less obvious, I never picked anyone from there (I'm a bit timid, I guess).
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1128413]They generally don't speak Thai (much less English) , so communication will be a problem.[/QUOTE]Ahhh but a fistful of Baht speaks for itself, neh?
Thank you for your very interesting post. It sounds like quite an adventure to be had.
For the record, a 1hr ST (2-shots) with a green-eyed Uzbek girl can be had on Sukhumwit Soi 3 for 1500 baht. She also works at Novotel, where she charges way more. About 6/10, but doable and nice attitude.
Just another data point, in case anyone is wondering.
Does anyone have any comment or info on the following re Russian ladies? Personally I suspect it's BS.
"Go to rajah hotel buddy, find any men carries a small notepad and a pen (they usually sits around the lobby doing nothing). Go to them and tell them 'want lady'. They'll bring you to the floor with all the blonde beauties you ever dream of. It would cost between 2000-3000 bht (not included condoms and tip). Stay away from escorts. Too expensive."
[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1149382]Does anyone have any comment or info on the following re Russian ladies? Personally I suspect it's BS.
"Go to rajah hotel buddy, find any men carries a small notepad and a pen (they usually sits around the lobby doing nothing). Go to them and tell them 'want lady'. They'll bring you to the floor with all the blonde beauties you ever dream of. It would cost between 2000-3000 bht (not included condoms and tip). Stay away from escorts. Too expensive."[/QUOTE]
Entirely true except for the part about "all the blond beauties you ever dream of". They're mostly dogs these days at Rajah (6/10 at best) , the usual "Russians" from Central Asia / Uzbekistan (dyed blonde and not a set of green / blue eyes among them). There used to be an occasional pretty girl (8/10) among them in the past.
Still, quality in Rajah IS better than the Uzbeks you see on the street in Soi 3 around Grace hotel, and so is the price (2500 vs 1000-1500 in the street).
You can ask any Thai guy hanging out in the lobby near the entrance, no need to look for "one with a notepad". Maybe the pimps do carry notepads, but frankly, I never noticed.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp; 1149722]Entirely true except for the part about "all the blond beauties you ever dream of". They're mostly dogs these days at Rajah (6/10 at best) , the usual "Russians" from Central Asia / Uzbekistan (dyed blonde and not a set of green / blue eyes among them). There used to be an occasional pretty girl (8/10) among them in the past.
Still, quality in Rajah IS better than the Uzbeks you see on the street in Soi 3 around Grace hotel, and so is the price (2500 vs 1000-1500 in the street).
You can ask any Thai guy hanging out in the lobby near the entrance, no need to look for "one with a notepad". Maybe the pimps do carry notepads, but frankly, I never noticed. [/QUOTE]My report from Jan 2010. I fucked a Russian girl in the Rajah, she was a lovely looking blonde and she had a great musky smelly off her pussy, which she didn't wash. Service was only average.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2183-Photo-Gallery&p=985104#post985104[/url]
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp; 1128413]Orchard Towers it is not, but.
There's a brothel with Chinese women smack in the middle of Yaowarat, about 50m from the corner of Soi Texas (the junction with outdoor food places overflowing into the main road).
In this picture, it would be just outside of the bounds to the left:
[url]http://www.flickr.com/photos/queenofoeb/60409150/[/url]
This is another view of Soi Texas (the place is on Yaowarat road itself near Texas intersection) :
[url]http://www.panoramio.com/photo/10714745[/url]
The place is called Broadway hotel, but you won't see the sign unless you look up and scan carefully. Easiest is to just walk along Yaowarat from the junction, looking into the doorways. You'll normally see 2-10 Chinese hookers sitting on the stairway and some may call you. Sometimes, they walk Soi Texas and surrounding areas as well. They look rather different from Thais.
Chinese women working at or near Broadway range in age from early 20s to 50s, but not all are present at any given time (you're likely to see 20% of what's available). I think the best time to go is late afternoon. 5-7pm or so (but it varies, no hard rule here).
Price is 300-800 baht for a quick poke, although they try to ask for more. Negotiate hard and try to pay towards the lower end. It's Chinese style, and don't worry, no matter how little you pay, they'll try to deliver *less. You can always pay them more in the room if necessary (e. G. 100 for a BJ). Even if you pay them 1500, they won't just include it without a struggle.
The room is 70 baht (unless the attendant is sleeping, then it's free). Ask for a room one with a toilet (otherwise you may get a really crappy one). You can also go to a different place (small soi parallel to Soi Texas has a better ST hotel next to the massage place for 150 baht).
Service quality is truly crap compared to anything you experienced in Thailand, but it costs next-to-nothing so it's still worth a try for the novelty factor. Be prepared, some V is advised, as they won't try to make you particularly horny. Once in the room, the women demand money in advance, but you'll have better service if you manage to convince them to pay after. I get a sense they're semi-freelancers. Not much structure in the whole deal (I've managed to take a rare good one home for 1500/3h and had an OK time, better than at the hotel). They probably work on their own, but pay the rent / protection (not a cut of each service). No obvious pimp presence.
They generally don't speak Thai (much less English) , so communication will be a problem. However, near Broadway / Soi Texas it's obvious what the transaction is about, easy to deal. There are a lot of *ish looking Chinese women milling around 2nd floor from Lotus (Th Mangkon) with massage, tea and karaoke shops. However, in that place the setup is less obvious, I never picked anyone from there (I'm a bit timid, I guess).[/QUOTE]Really appreciate the tip. Would bringing back to hotel be a problem?
I am also looking for Vietnamese, Laotian, Cambodian ladies in Pattaya.
[QUOTE=Cungong; 1182222]Really appreciate the tip. Would bringing back to hotel be a problem?
I am also looking for Vietnamese, Laotian, Cambodian ladies in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]When I was in Pattaya in Dec I wore one of those tourist shirts modelled on the Vietnamese and while slurping down a bowel of noodles I was accosted by a FLer claiming to be from Vietnam. Unfortunately to the unpracticed farang eyed it's hard to tell the difference but they are out there.
[QUOTE=Pointy Stick;1184007]When I was in Pattaya in Dec I wore one of those tourist shirts modelled on the Vietnamese and while slurping down a bowel of noodles I was accosted by a FLer claiming to be from Vietnam. Unfortunately to the unpracticed farang eyed it's hard to tell the difference but they are out there.[/QUOTE]To pointy stick,
Most Viet go to Singapore, KL or Macau they made lot more money there don't need to complete again the Thai girl, if I go to Thailand I don't look for anyone else other than Thai, If I see a viet most likey they are tourist not pro.
Fast Eddie 48
[QUOTE=Cungong;1182222]Really appreciate the tip. Would bringing back to hotel be a problem?[/QUOTE]
Not their typical arrangement, but with enough patience, it is possible (but communication is a problem, unless you speak Mandarin). Long ago (over a year) , I did get one back to my hotel in another part of town for 1500 for a 3h session. Worked out OK, good as proof-of-concept, but not a great deal compared with 300-600 on the spot.
BTW, I recently found a cute 30 yo Vietnamese girl near Maitri Chit Road (close to the traffic circle north of Yaowarat area). Quite friendly and worth a repeat, rare in that zone.
[QUOTE=Cungong;1182222]I am also looking for Vietnamese, Laotian, Cambodian ladies in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]It's difficult to distinguish Lao / Khmer from run-of-the-mill Isan girls (since Isan people include many of them in the mix). Vietnamese genes are more obvious.
You're highly unlikely to find a Vietnamese working girl in Pattaya. I'd say you probably have a higher chance of snagging a Korean or Japanese tourist. An occasional Lao is indeed possible (had a Lao with 5-star service once at Beach Road). The few Cambodians I found were ethnic Khmer from Buri Ram or Surin (speaking Khmer at home). All were Thai citizens, but unless you have a passport fetish, they're Cambodian enough. Occasional Thai-Chinese is also possible, but rare.
Pattaya is probably *not* the best place for non-Thai SWs (apart from the pig-ugly Uzbeks). Ethnic Chinese or Viet SWs (from towns close to Mekhong like Nakhon Phanom) would rather work in the Thai-oriented industry, instead of the low-end Farang sector where the demand for their features (whiter skin etc.) is lower.
Unfortunately, those groups are a low frequency hit-and-miss, no specific place to recommend. Thai-oriented places, like soapy massages are a slightly better bet than Farang bars.
Hey!
Is there any place in Bangkok where beautiful and hot Indian ladies can be found?
[QUOTE=Cungong; 1182222]Really appreciate the tip. Would bringing back to hotel be a problem?
I am also looking for Vietnamese, Laotian, Cambodian ladies in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]What about Indian girls in Bangkok? Is there a place with beautiful and hot ones?
Last week at Thursday I went around 11 pm to CM2 disco in Siam hotel. At this time it was quite empty, but soon more and more girls went in, but it wasn't crowded. I saw many younger and older Russian and other former CIS girls and also 2 blonde girls, who claimed to be from Colombia. I talked with some, because I was curious about prizes, They all asked 8. 000, sometimes even 10. 000 Baht for LT. Or 5. 000 Baht for ST. Crazy! And a really cute I couldn't see. I wasn't stupid and went away.
Around 1 a. M. I left CM 2 and wanted to visit Bossy club. As I told a taxi driver my destination he recommended to visit Shark 39 nightclub in Soi 39, New Petchaburi road. I had never been before, so I changed my destination. Entrance fee was 300 Baht, included one drink. The club is rather dark and the music is very loud, so its difficult to talk with a girl. I saw many Thaigirls, but also any Russian girls and a few from Africa. Most of the Russian girls have been not interesting for me – too old or under average, but 2 of them have been quite attractive, age in end of 20th. They wanted 6. 000 Baht till the next morning. But I hadn't a good feeling, so I resigned to take one.
[QUOTE=Old German;1186316]As I told a taxi driver my destination he recommended to visit Shark 39 nightclub in Soi 39, New Petchaburi road. I had never been before, so I changed my destination. Entrance fee was 300 Baht, included one drink. The club is rather dark and the music is very loud, so its difficult to talk with a girl.[/QUOTE]Be careful with Shark 39. Some heavy-duty drug dealing there. Sooner or later it will be raided; and the meantime, the Thai police may be trying to shift the epicenter for the low-level drug trade away from Sukhumvit Road. It's super-embarrassing and a loss of face for Thai authorities that Africans so openly defy Thai law. But clearly someone is protecting them, otherwise the cops could roll up every single African pimp, pusher and hooker in one night. It's not like they're hard to spot (except on unlit sub-sois on very dark nights).
Also, don't go to Shark 39 drunk. You're setting yourself up for trouble. A drunk farang on his own would be very much like Bambi in a pool of sharks.
Evil
[QUOTE=Old German;1186316]Shark 39 nightclub in Soi 39, New Petchaburi road.[/QUOTE]I thought that club was called Shock 39. Did they change the name?
[QUOTE=Kerlon;1185934]What about Indian girls in Bangkok? Is there a place with beautiful and hot ones?[/QUOTE]Nothing I know of, and I doubt there's much available. Inidan girls would not be too popular with Thais or Farang, so if such places exist, they're probably targeted towards the Indian community and not obvious.
The Indian community seems to be centered around Suriyawong (Silom upper sois) area and Phahurat area (between Yaowarat and Saphan Phut). Asking the obvious suspects (tuk tuks, touts) around there may give some results. Please report back if you find anything interesting.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1185400]An occasional Lao is indeed possible (had a Lao with 5-star service once at Beach Road).[/QUOTE]I've had many laos in Pattaya over the years. They really try to blend themselves in well and pass themselves off as Thais. They look and act slightly different than thais, however. Most will not admit that they are lao, but if you speak a little bit of lao they will open up to you and if you take them back to your hotel that requires I'd, they will pull out their lao passport.
Hey,
Has any one encounted any indian girls in Pattaya or Thailand.
Do let us know about your experience.
MOJO
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48;1185309]Most Viet go to Singapore, KL or Macau they made lot more money there don't need to complete again the Thai girl, if I go to Thailand I don't look for anyone else other than Thai, If I see a viet most likey they are tourist not pro.[/QUOTE]From what I've read it is said Cambodia has a lot of Vietnamese girls. For example from the book "Butterfly" by Steven Yang. It seems the Cambodian P4P scene is dominated by them and, of course, the locals.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1191964]From what I've read it is said Cambodia has a lot of Vietnamese girls. For example from the book "Butterfly" by Steven Yang. It seems the Cambodian P4P scene is dominated by them and, of course, the locals.[/QUOTE]My experience was that the Viet girls were also cheaper in Cambodia. They know dudes come to Cambodia because they want to bang a Cambodian, therefore they seemed to charge a premium for it.
[QUOTE=MoJoRocks; 1190231]Hey,
Has any one encounted any indian girls in Pattaya or Thailand.
Do let us know about your experience.
MOJO[/QUOTE]There used to be a freelancer that hung about on sukhumvit outside ever rich inn at night. Down a bit from the bus stop area.
Reasonable looker great figure never got to try the goods cause first time I saw here thought she was a tourist but she was there the next night and some guy already was negotiating.
Will have to try her myself this year.
Also is chares the ukrainian MILF still about?
[QUOTE=MoJoRocks; 1190231]Hey,
Has any one encounted any indian girls in Pattaya or Thailand.
Do let us know about your experience.
MOJO[/QUOTE]MOJO,
I think that it is difficult to find 100% Indian girls in Thailand but there are quite a few 50/50!
I posted this in "general reports" a few weeks ago. I hope it helps!
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Indian playmates!
Over the years I have had the pleasure of having several Half Thai / Half Indian (and Half Thai / Half Pakistani) girls as playmates in LOS! I rather like that look!
If you stop to think about it there are many Indians living in Thailand, some for many years, and (nowdays) quite a lot of Indian visitors. So it is not 'so' unusual to expect to find this, often rather beautiful, mix.
The ones I have known have told me that 'Moma from Thai. Pappa from India! ' Several have had Indian rather than Thai 'given names. '
A couple of years ago there were a pair of Half Thai / Half Pakistani sisters working in one of the Pattaya go-go's. VERY nice indeed! However I have not seen them around during my last few trips.
In my experience there is not one 'special place' for these girls but it IS possible to find all sorts of ethnic mixes in Thailand.
I can remember a Thai / Scandinavian, a Thai / German, a Thai / Black American (WOW, she was HOT!) and several Thai / Chinese girls that I have been with over the years.
Just get out there and look. You may not find EXACTLY what you are looking for but I would be rather surprised if you are unable to find 'something' acceptable.
ENJOY.
(I do!)
Hotman.
Thought about the Russian girls or black women whilst in BKK a few months back, just too many sexy thai girls all over the place to go ahead with it, have got the yellow fever bad.
There are kenyan girls that are hitting Pattaya now.
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1186520]I've had many laos in Pattaya over the years. They really try to blend themselves in well and pass themselves off as Thais. They look and act slightly different than thais, however. Most will not admit that they are lao, but if you speak a little bit of lao they will open up to you and if you take them back to your hotel that requires I'd, they will pull out their lao passport.[/QUOTE]Could not find Lao lady name of Phen from last 2 high seasons. Usually on BR across from Royal Garden. Always quite a character. Then during my last week dropped into Lucky 7 GoGo on Soi 8 and there she was. Said the boys in brown were causing too much hassle on BR so she moved inside.
[QUOTE=LaaMok;1269458]There are kenyan girls that are hitting Pattaya now.[/QUOTE]What are the fares to ride? Of recent the Nigerians were requesting ridiculous rates, I wonder if they have been invited to leave Thailand since the round-up?
[QUOTE=Noddy;1269742]What are the fares to ride? Of recent the Nigerians were requesting ridiculous rates, I wonder if they have been invited to leave Thailand since the round-up?[/QUOTE]Around 2 months ago, I had picked up a South African freelancer / stunner from a disco in Soi 11. She had a bubble booty. 36 C size tits and no stretch marks visible on her chocolate skin even though she was 33 years old as she confessed. Performance was nothing close to a Thai performer except that she liked to swallow. Cost me 5000B for the night with 2 pops. There are lots of Russians, Uzbeks, Laotians, some Indian and Nepalese etc now available for a price. Sukh and Pat are the place to scout for them. At the end, the Thais will give you the smile of satisfaction in the Land of Smiles.
Ouch! Zenlove, you brave parting with 5000b. She is no doubt earning far more in Thailand than back in Africa. Personally, I would have passed her on. Next time negotiate real hard, she skinned you mate.
IMHO unless it is rihanna or halle berry, no black SP let alone SW in BKK is worth anything over 50B.
10000+ thai honeys in BKK alone whose looks and performance are better than any foriegn worker at a fraction of what you paid
[QUOTE=Member #3200; 1271480]IMHO unless it is rihanna or halle berry, no black SP let alone SW in BKK is worth anything over 50B.
10000+ thai honeys in BKK alone whose looks and performance are better than any foriegn worker at a fraction of what you paid[/QUOTE]Come on guys, back off, will ya. It may not be worth that much to you but it was fine for him. Don't be a self professed guru.
Didn't see your FRs regarding black women in Pattaya or elsewhere.
[QUOTE=Duniawala; 1271794]Come on guys, back off, will ya. It may not be worth that much to you but it was fine for him. Don't be a self professed guru.
Didn't see your FRs regarding black women in Pattaya or elsewhere.[/QUOTE]I do admit 5000B was well overpriced for the all night session. She still hangs around in the night clubs / discos on Soi11. Believe me, she speaks good English and is quite a stunner with her sexy dress on and without it. As I said in my posting, I have decided to enjoy the land of smiles with the locals than spend my money on an international overpriced hit or miss.
[QUOTE=Zenlove;1272847]I do admit 5000B was well overpriced for the all night session. She still hangs around in the night clubs / discos on Soi11. Believe me, she speaks good English and is quite a stunner with her sexy dress on and without it. As I said in my posting, I have decided to enjoy the land of smiles with the locals than spend my money on an international overpriced hit or miss.[/QUOTE]I don't think you over paid. The going rate varies for these foreign girls from 4000-7000baht for a night. Unless there is someone who can share information on any lower priced foreign workers in Bangkok, there is no need to make hue cry over the price! Assuming the fact that bar fines are now 600baht and LT at some places not less than 2500baht I do not think foreign girls would bring down their prices any time soon! Obviously this is for WGs and if you are a charmer you can get pussy for free anywhere!
[QUOTE=MoJoRocks; 1190231]Hey,
Has any one encounted any indian girls in Pattaya or Thailand.
Do let us know about your experience.
MOJO[/QUOTE]There is one I met in BKK near Robinson's. She goes by the name of Amena. She's in her mid to late 20's, beautiful smile and big ass too. She does it all for 1000BHT. IF you don't see her there, she's hanging all the time near Subay on soi 7.
[QUOTE=Horny Landoora;1273338]I don't think you over paid. The going rate varies for these foreign girls from 4000-7000baht for a night. Unless there is someone who can share information on any lower priced foreign workers in Bangkok, there is no need to make hue cry over the price! Assuming the fact that bar fines are now 600baht and LT at some places not less than 2500baht I do not think foreign girls would bring down their prices any time soon! Obviously this is for WGs and if you are a charmer you can get pussy for free anywhere![/QUOTE]I did a couple young black girls on lower suk a few years ago for 1k ST. They both wanted 2k but I only pay 1k. No BBBJ unfortunately. I would say that 4k LT for an African Black girl working it BKK is way too high. Again it's the big city big money attitude that drives this ridiculous pricing in BKK.
Went to rajah hotel yesterday about 9PM about 20 girls sitting in 3 tables each table has different price. 2700, 2900 and 3100 (they call the last super stars LOL) only ST one shot and only in the hotel (no takeaway) , girls are very average may be one I call it good looking but not stunner, and they all Uzbek not Russians, some of the 1000 baht street walkers are better looking. I could fuck in Sydney much prettier blond girls for 80$ (2400 baht)
The place was very quite and guys get in and leave without take any, I will expect price will go down soon.
Only thing I enjoyed is the 30baht coffee with nice Air-con.
Hi,
Would you help me out in giving more details which are the best places in BKK for Russian and latino babes and whats the going rate for them for LT. I don't want to try thai chic s somewhat got a liking for the eastern european and latino ones.
[QUOTE=Hardrod81; 1274529]Hi,
Would you help me out in giving more details which are the best places in BKK for Russian and latino babes and whats the going rate for them for LT. I don't want to try thai chic s somewhat got a liking for the eastern european and latino ones.[/QUOTE]CM2 in Novotel Siam might be the place for blond russians and latinos. Not many tho. Entry 650baht with dress code. Rate is 3000+ST and 8000+LT.
Some uzbek at grace hotel. You can notice them in the coffee shop attached to the hotel bet 6 to 9 pm then at night they go to the disco but entry is 200b. You can see them also in the arabic area near soi3 sukm. Rate is 1000/1500ST not sure about LT but I guess they would go for 4000/5000.
[QUOTE=Hardrod81;1274529]Would you help me out in giving more details which are the best places in BKK for Russian and latino babes and whats the going rate for them for LT. I don't want to try thai chic s somewhat got a liking for the eastern european and latino ones.[/QUOTE]Frankly, if you're looking for Latinas or Russians in Thailand, you will be disappointed. Not sure where you are now, but in Europe, Amsterdam or Frankfrut are a better bet for this category, and even in Asia, you'd have more choice in Dubai, Hong Kong or Singapore.
Finding non-Asian SWs in Bangkok is like looking for food good Russian borscht in Bangkok, or som tum in Idaho. I understand the occasional craving, if you look enough you may well find some, but it's going to be 3rd rate quality, cost you 3x the excellent local food, and it's silly to come here specifically for it.
There are Russian hos in Novotel near Siam Square (expensive. 4k to 10k baht ST / LT, unimpressive at the price) , some streetwalkers and disco girls around Soi 3 area, close to and within Grace hotel (1k-2k per pop, terrible quality). There's also a hotel-brothel scene at Rajah Hotel (Soi 4) and a dinky hotel near Bumrungrad (maybe Mike's Place, not sure). For about 2. 5k per pop.
Now, the "Russians" in Bangkok are mostly not Eastern European, but Central Asian (won't find many with blue / green eyes) , and not too fresh either, to put it mildly. As for Latina working girls, don't count on finding one. You may well have better results if you spend time gaming tourist chicks. Latin America is quite far, and tropical too, so they don't have much reason to go to Thailand. Once upon a time, I did meet a 30 whyear old Brazilian tourist (residing in Japan, medium hot) , but she was surely an odd-one-out, and not a working girl.
Not sure long time is a great idea with non-Asian SWs in Thailand, they seem to prefer ST, and with their typical attitudes I could hardly tolerate them for long. But if you're adventurous and don't care about getting a poor experience for too much money (most likely) , go ahead.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1275913]Not sure long time is a great idea with non-Asian SWs in Thailand, they seem to prefer ST, and with their typical attitudes I could hardly tolerate them for long. But if you're adventurous and don't care about getting a poor experience for too much money (most likely) , go ahead.[/QUOTE]It also depends on what type of girl you are picking up and ensuring clearing the terms before hand! I have had good experience with ladies from CIS I picked up from CM2 and Bossy. Both were LT and in terms of service really good. Yes they were neither 18 0r 20 but even if at 30 they had the experience of how to please and serve!
Overall irrespective of nationality you can have a bad day anywhere!
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp; 1275913]Frankly, if you're looking for Latinas or Russians in Thailand, you will be disappointed. Not sure where you are now, but in Europe, Amsterdam or Frankfrut are a better bet for this category, and even in Asia, you'd have more choice in Dubai, Hong Kong or Singapore.
Finding non-Asian SWs in Bangkok is like looking for food good Russian borscht in Bangkok, or som tum in Idaho. I understand the occasional craving, if you look enough you may well find some, but it's going to be 3rd rate quality, cost you 3x the excellent local food, and it's silly to come here specifically for it.
There are Russian hos in Novotel near Siam Square (expensive. 4k to 10k baht ST / LT, unimpressive at the price) , some streetwalkers and disco girls around Soi 3 area, close to and within Grace hotel (1k-2k per pop, terrible quality). There's also a hotel-brothel scene at Rajah Hotel (Soi 4) and a dinky hotel near Bumrungrad (maybe Mike's Place, not sure). For about 2. 5k per pop.
Now, the "Russians" in Bangkok are mostly not Eastern European, but Central Asian (won't find many with blue / green eyes) , and not too fresh either, to put it mildly. As for Latina working girls, don't count on finding one. You may well have better results if you spend time gaming tourist chicks. Latin America is quite far, and tropical too, so they don't have much reason to go to Thailand. Once upon a time, I did meet a 30 whyear old Brazilian tourist (residing in Japan, medium hot) , but she was surely an odd-one-out, and not a working girl.
Not sure long time is a great idea with non-Asian SWs in Thailand, they seem to prefer ST, and with their typical attitudes I could hardly tolerate them for long. But if you're adventurous and don't care about getting a poor experience for too much money (most likely) , go ahead.[/QUOTE]Most of the South American Latinas head to the Caribbean where they can work legally and get paid the same amount for 20 min as a Thai freelancer would get for LT. Their travel expenses are very low and they live at the brothels. They can pay back their contract (for travel expenses, housing and medical checks) in a week and the rest of the 3 month visa is pure profit. For them to come to Thailand they would probably never be able to cover their expenses.
When in Thailand. Eat Thai food and play with Thai girls! That is what traveling is all about.
Pogo
Just had a quick read through. I heard you can pick up some decent looking 'white' girls in Pattaya at a couple of nighclubs? Though I'm not sure exaclty how good looking and if they are just Uzbeki?
However, if not the case I guess Frankfurt is better option for a guy based in UK considering the short cheap flights. However, I'd like to do long time with a hot Russian type, that aint possible in Germany for cheap.
[QUOTE=Super Cum 500;1276741]However, if not the case I guess Frankfurt is better option for a guy based in UK considering the short cheap flights. However, I'd like to do long time with a hot Russian type, that aint possible in Germany for cheap.[/QUOTE]Yes probably in Germany you would have to be contend with eastern European girls. Even in Thailand the nationality and origin of most these white skins is not very much clear. They can be UZBEK, AZERI or KAZAKH not purely Russian. Generally for LT these girls demand anything ranging from 5K TO 10K Baht. Personally I would still go to Germany at a FKK, quality is far better, variety is more and for say 50-75Euros for ST I can bang and make merry with many! Although if you do the math I assume still if the LT costs you more along with ticket and stay it would be far cheaper than coming to Thailand!
[QUOTE=Horny Landoora;1277155]Yes probably in Germany you would have to be contend with eastern European girls. Even in Thailand the nationality and origin of most these white skins is not very much clear. They can be UZBEK, AZERI or KAZAKH not purely Russian. Generally for LT these girls demand anything ranging from 5K TO 10K Baht. Personally I would still go to Germany at a FKK, quality is far better, variety is more and for say 50-75Euros for ST I can bang and make merry with many! Although if you do the math I assume still if the LT costs you more along with ticket and stay it would be far cheaper than coming to Thailand![/QUOTE]I think at 5-10k baht for all day with Euro girl in Thailand works out cheap compared to European prices. However, from what I read I'm unsure the exact quality of these girls and there looks Euroasian? Slight Arabic? Wheras Germany has girls I know are attractive Polish, Ukraine, Russian, Czech, German etc. Well overall a lenghty trip to Thailand with Thai girls plus 3 or 4 LT russians over the course is better value overall but as I say I'm not sure the quality or age of these girls, Older fat uzbekis vs young tight pretty girls in Germany.
In Germany maybe I do 3-4 girls per day 2-3 days. Its condensed and expensive with regards to the sex / day costs. I mean a weekend break could be 1000+ versus Thailand 2 months 2000 etc.
[QUOTE=Super Cum 500; 1277175]I think at 5-10k baht for all day with Euro girl in Thailand works out cheap compared to European prices. However, from what I read I'm unsure the exact quality of these girls and there looks Euroasian? Slight Arabic? Wheras Germany has girls I know are attractive Polish, Ukraine, Russian, Czech, German etc. Well overall a lenghty trip to Thailand with Thai girls plus 3 or 4 LT russians over the course is better value overall but as I say I'm not sure the quality or age of these girls, Older fat uzbekis vs young tight pretty girls in Germany.
In Germany maybe I do 3-4 girls per day 2-3 days. Its condensed and expensive with regards to the sex / day costs. I mean a weekend break could be 1000+ versus Thailand 2 months 2000 etc.[/QUOTE]These girls in Thailand are again of mixed varieties. Mostly I would say they are off their prime looking to do what they can best while having a good cheap holiday in Thailand filling their bags to take home or elsewhere. Although sometimes you might just come across a gem also. As I mentioned earlier in Germany you would find far more variety and also largely attractive girls.
In terms of cost yes Thailand is surely cheaper from Europe any day. Although if you are planning for only Russian girls you are better off going on Eurotrip or for that matter to Moscow or Kiev! There are also many attractive Thai girls and otherwise in your trip you would have a good time overall with other stuff without worrying about running out of money. It is a matter of choice and if you have not been to Thailand at all you should plan it once to experience it for an additional 1000 EUROs it might still be worth it!
[QUOTE=Horny Landoora; 1277218]These girls in Thailand are again of mixed varieties. Mostly I would say they are off their prime looking to do what they can best while having a good cheap holiday in Thailand filling their bags to take home or elsewhere. Although sometimes you might just come across a gem also. As I mentioned earlier in Germany you would find far more variety and also largely attractive girls.
In terms of cost yes Thailand is surely cheaper from Europe any day. Although if you are planning for only Russian girls you are better off going on Eurotrip or for that matter to Moscow or Kiev! There are also many attractive Thai girls and otherwise in your trip you would have a good time overall with other stuff without worrying about running out of money. It is a matter of choice and if you have not been to Thailand at all you should plan it once to experience it for an additional 1000 EUROs it might still be worth it![/QUOTE]I have been and I enjoyed many Thai girls but they are not really my type though with so many I always found 1 each day more than arousing so can't complain. I will go back for sure.
I do however want to expereince hot white type girls and having been to prague thought I'd try Germany. But then I read about Euro / Latin girls in Thailand so I thought maybe I can save a trip and get 2 for 1 in Thailand. But it seems if I want quality and variety best to stay in europe for white and then Thailand for Thais.
[QUOTE=Super Cum 500;1277175]I'm not sure the quality or age of these girls, Older fat uzbekis vs young tight pretty girls in Germany.[/QUOTE]Correct. Non-Asian SWs in Thailand, are overwhelmingly old and ugly past-expiry-date sex workers from Central Asia. Usually they shuffle between Malaysia and Thailand to satisfy the visa conditions.
Occasionally, Rajah hotel on Soi 4 may have a few passable lookers. Ask a pimp at a lobby to take you upstairs, it's 2. 5k ST. Not great, but not abysmal if you really have the urge.
[QUOTE=Super Cum 500;1276741]Just had a quick read through. I heard you can pick up some decent looking 'white' girls in Pattaya at a couple of nighclubs? Though I'm not sure exaclty how good looking and if they are just Uzbeki?[/QUOTE]There are definitely some fine-looking Russian girls in some Pattaya discos, but they are NOT working girls. They are tourists, usually the girlfriends of very big, fit and short-tempered Russian guys. Some Western guys are misled because these girls dress and act provocatively at times, but they aren't looking for customers, just having fun. The working girls are all Uzbeks or other "stan" hookers who aren't going to win any prizes for their looks.
Evil
Not sure where to post this but I met a Pinay online and she works in BKK as a Nanny.
Chatted on YM with her throughout the day and we agreed that Saturday she would by my Nanny.
She said she is very naughty in chat but shy in real, and that I have to be soft with her.
Not very sure how to take this.
She will come over.
I am no expert on Pinays so should I watch out for something here? She was pretty quick to agree to meet, and at my place, on my bed. Either she's in dire need of sex or she's after something else.
I am a bit puzzled. Anyone sees anything weird here?
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1281505]Not sure where to post this but I met a Pinay online and she works in BKK as a Nanny.
Chatted on YM with her throughout the day and we agreed that Saturday she would by my Nanny.
She said she is very naughty in chat but shy in real, and that I have to be soft with her.
Not very sure how to take this.
She will come over.
I am no expert on Pinays so should I watch out for something here? She was pretty quick to agree to meet, and at my place, on my bed. Either she's in dire need of sex or she's after something else.
I am a bit puzzled. Anyone sees anything weird here?[/QUOTE]You are really that much of a dumbkof, are you NF. Then again, there is nothing. Sometimes a pussy is just a pussy.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1281505]Not sure where to post this but I met a Pinay online and she works in BKK as a Nanny.
Chatted on YM with her throughout the day and we agreed that Saturday she would by my Nanny.
She said she is very naughty in chat but shy in real, and that I have to be soft with her.
Not very sure how to take this.
She will come over.
I am no expert on Pinays so should I watch out for something here? She was pretty quick to agree to meet, and at my place, on my bed. Either she's in dire need of sex or she's after something else.
I am a bit puzzled. Anyone sees anything weird here?[/QUOTE]Pinays love Bareback and cum in pussy. If that is what you like, enjoy.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1281910]Pinays love Bareback and cum in pussy. If that is what you like, enjoy.[/QUOTE]No Chance with me, I'm a condom kind of guy.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1281505]Not sure where to post this but I met a Pinay online and she works in BKK as a Nanny.
I am no expert on Pinays so should I watch out for something here? She was pretty quick to agree to meet, and at my place, on my bed. Either she's in dire need of sex or she's after something else.[/QUOTE]Ok I got to ask what is a Pinay?
[QUOTE=LuvnLatinas;1281935]Ok I got to ask what is a Pinay?[/QUOTE][url]Http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinay[/url]
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1281505]Not sure where to post this but I met a Pinay online and she works in BKK as a Nanny.
She will come over.
She was pretty quick to agree to meet, and at my place, on my bed. Either she's in dire need of sex or she's after something else.[/QUOTE]Nosey guy, am I not? I am hoping for a good story, actually. TTG
[QUOTE=TimTimGuy;1285217]Nosey guy, am I not? I am hoping for a good story, actually. TTG[/QUOTE]Long Story, but I ended up refusing the Pinay and invited a Thai girl. And that ***** gave me the Bic C
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1285256]invited a Thai girl. And that ***** gave me the Bic C[/QUOTE]Sorry mate! That wasn't the story I'd hoped to hear. TTG
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1285256]Long Story, but I ended up refusing the Pinay and invited a Thai girl. And that ***** gave me the Bic C[/QUOTE]The Big C can be quite easy to get. I got Chlamydia twice (in 20 years) , if that's what you meant (officially its the "little c") , despite being fairly careful. Are you saying you got it even with the condom use? I know it can be transmitted even on fingers (after finger in pussy) if you are unlucky.
Without condoms, catching Chlamydia is just about guaranteed, especially with girls that fuck guys easily (even if not pros who may take more precautions). Fortunately easily curable.
Years ago I had a Philipina girlfriend and she didn't like to use condoms, despite being allergic to the pill. Fortunately I didn't get her pregnant. I nearly went back to her once, but discovered she was a gambling addict. She later got pregnant to some young guy who was supplying her with Coke. 3 kids in all, 2 fathers. Well done to have escaped.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1285972]The Big C can be quite easy to get. I got Chlamydia twice (in 20 years) , if that's what you meant (officially its the "little c") , despite being fairly careful. Are you saying you got it even with the condom use? I know it can be transmitted even on fingers (after finger in pussy) if you are unlucky.[/QUOTE]Yep, THAT bigC. Actually I had it coming. Fucked her the last shot sans-Condom. SOM NAM NA. Not I got to clean it up.
[QUOTE=TimTimGuy;1285949]Sorry mate! That wasn't the story I'd hoped to hear. TTG[/QUOTE]Thanks man. Live and Learn.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1285998]Yep, THAT bigC. Actually I had it coming. Fucked her the last shot sans-Condom. SOM NAM NA. Not I got to clean it up.[/QUOTE]Yep. You confirmed that its almost a guarantee to get without condoms. Lucky you aren't married as its possible for a guy to go give it to the wife before he discovers what he has got. I sometimes keep share Binoztyl (generic Azithro) just in case, need to get treatment going in a hurry. That is for heavy mongering periods (even though no BBFS) , just in case.
I could imagine guys that monger BB a lot before going back OS to wife, taking the Azithro before returning home, just in case.
One of the really annoying things, is that if you tell the girl you caught Chlamydia from her, she will just deny it and claim she caught it from you or that she has been tested and doesn't have it. There is no way you will be able to prove 100% that she gave it to you, even though there is little chance it came from the non BB encounters. Sometimes its easier just not to mention it.
Many years ago I was faced with this choice. Did I catch it from the girl overseas that I did BB (not a good girl), who claimed she did not have it, although admitted taking antibiotics for some other condition, with my symptoms showing up about 2-3 days later, or did I catch it from BBBJ in Thailand (with no FS at all), with symptoms showing up next morning? The former seemed much more likely but I couldn't be certain, given it seems to be easily catchable. The BB girl could have easily done some other guy BB a short time before doing me for all I know. So I thought its possible for her to carry the bacteria without knowing it if taking antibiotics continuously.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1286047]Yep. You confirmed that its almost a guarantee to get without condoms. Lucky you aren't married as its possible for a guy to go give it to the wife before he discovers what he has got. I sometimes keep share Binoztyl (generic Azithro) just in case, need to get treatment going in a hurry. That is for heavy mongering periods (even though no BBFS) , just in case.[/QUOTE]What exactly are the symptoms to watch out for? Thereafter what is the course of treatment you should adopt? I always use a condom for penetration but from time to time have BBBJ with the WGs so is the risk still there?
[QUOTE=Horny Landoora;1286051]What exactly are the symptoms to watch out for? Thereafter what is the course of treatment you should adopt? I always use a condom for penetration but from time to time have BBBJ with the WGs so is the risk still there?[/QUOTE]For me was a White Discharge in the morning and a little burning sensation when [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord112][CodeWord112][/url]. Went to the Soi 11 clinic. Got a blood test, but refused the "Swab from Hell". Just to be sure, Doctor gave me a Shot for Chlamydia and pills for Ghono.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1286169]For me was a White Discharge in the morning and a little burning sensation when [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord112][CodeWord112][/url]. Went to the Soi 11 clinic. Got a blood test, but refused the "Swab from Hell". Just to be sure, Doctor gave me a Shot for Chlamydia and pills for Ghono.[/QUOTE]What, no photos?
As they say in the land of Hallmark cards: "Get well soon!"
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1286188]What, no photos?
As they say in the land of Hallmark cards: "Get well soon!"[/QUOTE]Since you are asking.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1286202]Since you are asking.[/QUOTE]Feckin' creepy, if you ask me!
[QUOTE=Horny Landoora;1286051]What exactly are the symptoms to watch out for? Thereafter what is the course of treatment you should adopt? I always use a condom for penetration but from time to time have BBBJ with the WGs so is the risk still there?[/QUOTE]On the occasions that I succumb to bareback sex, I take within 24 hours 1 x 400mg Norfloxcin tablet. Never had a dose, but of course don't know whether I was infected or the tablet did the trick.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1286047]One of the really annoying things, is that if you tell the girl you caught Chlamydia from her, she will just deny it and claim she caught it from you or that she has been tested and doesn't have it. There is no way you will be able to prove 100% that she gave it to you, even though there is little chance it came from the non BB encounters. Sometimes its easier just not to mention it.[/QUOTE]I don't think it's a good idea to not mention it. For women Chlamydia can result in serious health problems, including infertility. Since Chlamydia has few symptoms, especially in woman, chances are good that a woman who has it will not know about it. By telling her you might be doing her a big favour. Really a no-brainer in my opinion.
[QUOTE=Bumholes1;1286386]On the occasions that I succumb to bareback sex, I take within 24 hours 1 x 400mg Norfloxcin tablet. Never had a dose, but of course don't know whether I was infected or the tablet did the trick.[/QUOTE]And that is exactly why now many bacteria are immune to anti-biotics. You should never ever take anti-biotics unless there is a good reason for it.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1286524]And that is exactly why now many bacteria are immune to anti-biotics. You should never ever take anti-biotics unless there is a good reason for it.[/QUOTE]I consider there is a good reason to take an antibiotic on these rare occasions.
[QUOTE=Bumholes1;1286386]On the occasions that I succumb to bareback sex, I take within 24 hours 1 x 400mg Norfloxcin tablet. Never had a dose, but of course don't know whether I was infected or the tablet did the trick.[/QUOTE]What is that pill supposed to do for you? Also where do you get it & at what price?
Bareback sex? Is this referring to a BBBJ, BBFS, or something else?
[QUOTE=Werqweq;1286459]I don't think it's a good idea to not mention it. For women Chlamydia can result in serious health problems, including infertility. Since Chlamydia has few symptoms, especially in woman, chances are good that a woman who has it will not know about it. By telling her you might be doing her a big favour. Really a no-brainer in my opinion.[/QUOTE]Infertility is a serious health problem? I'd consider it a blessing.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1286524]And that is exactly why now many bacteria are immune to anti-biotics. You should never ever take anti-biotics unless there is a good reason for it.[/QUOTE]Correct.
[QUOTE=Bumholes1;1286856]I consider there is a good reason to take an antibiotic on these rare occasions.[/QUOTE]Why?
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1287152]Infertility is a serious health problem? I'd consider it a blessing.[/QUOTE]Why would you consider infertility in a woman as Blessing?
antibiotics: i am an rn and remote medic finishing up my advanced nurse practicioner degree. if in doubt seek medical assistance.
this is the dose / regimen for unprotected sex, it is what we give to sexual assault / [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] victims, male or female, so if you have unprotected sex and you want to take precautionary measures take this:
ceftriaxone (rocephin) 125 mg i'm (intramuscular) single dose / or cefixime (suprax) 400 mg po single dose + metronidazole (flagyl) 2 gm po single dose + azithromycin 1 gm po single dose / or doxycycline 100 mg po bid for 7 days.
this would cover chlamydia, gonorrhea, syphilis, trichomoniasis and possibly prevention from obtaining pid from a infected female.
this is a guideline only. these are for treatment of std's and for infectious diarrhea, the malaria is for prevention.
po= oral.
bid= twice a day.
std's.
chlamydia: azithromycin 1 gm single dose or doxycycline 100mg po bid for 7 days.
syphillis: doxycycline 100mg po bid for 14 days.
gonorrhea: cefixime (suprax) 400mg po (single dose)
pid: levofloxacin (levaquin) 500 mg po daily + metronidazole (flagyl) 500 mg po bid for 14 days.
infectious diarrhea / travelers diarrhea.
ciprofloxacin (cipro) 500 mg po bid 3-5 days.
dog / cat bite (never know when you are in some 3rd world chit hole)
amoxicillin clavulanate (augmentin) 875 mg po bid x10 days.
malaria (prophylaxis)
doxycycline : 2 mg / kg day up to 100mg po starting 1-2 days before exposure until 4 weeks after returning.
[QUOTE=Horny Landoora;1287214]Why would you consider infertility in a woman as Blessing?[/QUOTE]I wouldn't have to concern myself with rug rats or what's associated with making them.
As it stands, I am banging my head against the wall repeatedly, trying to figure out ways to be sure I don't impregnate any TGs.
[QUOTE=Expat1234;1287221]Antibiotics: I am an RN and remote medic finishing up my advanced nurse practicioner degree. If in doubt seek medical assistance.[/QUOTE]Now expect someone to PM you asking whether you can also mail him a prescription so he can buy the stuff since he is shy to ask to his doctor. And maybe also give adviCe on where to buy it, of course without mentioning the the town he is! I just had someone PM'ing me asking for a GF hotel, without even mentioning the COUNTRY!
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1287252]I wouldn't have to concern myself with rug rats or what's associated with making them.As it stands, I am banging my head against the wall repeatedly, trying to figure out ways to be sure I don't impregnate any TGs.[/QUOTE]DIY is a good way, then wash your hands before shaking hands for a goodbye with the girl. Looks like the rug rats are good enough for your plumbing system, tho'
[QUOTE=Harold444;1287264]He means that chicks who have unprotected sex with JOHNS are not good parent material. It may be best they don't reproduce.[/QUOTE]Actually I don't know about that. Don't they usually send them to ma & pa up north, anyway.
My concerns with impregnating a TG have to do with the expenses involved (hospital care, loss of work recompense, child support for 18 years or more) and the drama involved from herself & or friends, family, etc.
[QUOTE=Harold444;1287264]Hey pp know anywhere in Pattaya I can get me some free action. Hahahahahaha.[/QUOTE]Never been there. Maybe there's some 80 year old Russian looking to make a baby with you young farang studs.
Locations to purchase depends on the country you are in. I usually carry a supply of meds with me when I travel. The middle east you can purchase antibiotics over the counter, same as most central and South American countries. Some Eastern European countries you can get a minimal amount at a pharmacy, but most of the time you have to see a health care provider. As for free action, it can be had in Pattaya, when I was there in Feb. I visited several clubs / GO'GO Bars with Stakeout, he was my guide and we had a blast. I went to Lucifer and 3 out of 4 nights I picked up girls on holiday. They were not working girls but had regular jobs and were looking for some fun. Some drinks and a late night snack and a sccoter ride back to Jomtien Beach where I stayed and scooter ride in the am, everything else was free. 2,3. 4 pops a nite into the morning. It really depends on what you are looking for. If you see a girl and start having a conversation find out where they are from, do they work etc. Some of them are truly interested in fun, others are looking for extra cash. So P4P is there and also Free.
Sometimes there is debate about whether gogo girls can be good in bed.
I would say in the last year I have only had two girls that were duds from Cowboy, making about a 90% success rate. This comes partly from seeking advice from a regular girl about which other girls have good attitude. One dud girl was from Tilac. Most other girls were good enough to repeat. Even the shyish girls have been very enjoyable.
In Nana, my success rate is a somewhat lower, with hardly any girls from there being good enough to warrant a repeat. I. E. Rather average to weak performances. I don't bother with Nana very often. Very pretty girls at Nana seem to be rather "quicky" oriented. Its difficult for me to go past the pretty ones.
I still say that getting girls from the lesbian shows in Cowboy is a likely success measure. Also hot dancers are usually good on the bed.
Have been very lucky with Suzi Wong and Sheba choices lately. They have limited really good lookers, so I grab the good ones as quickly as possible.
Nit at Sheba is a very nice looking pretty girl, and have taken her once before, but haven't seen her turn up lately. Must be booked solid with a regular. I should get the phone number so I can make a booking too.
Sorry I accidentally posted in wrong thread. Too late to delete it now
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1287549]My concerns with impregnating a TG have to do with the expenses involved (hospital care, loss of work recompense, child support for 18 years or more) and the drama involved from herself & or friends, family, etc.[/QUOTE]And is it not the same when you "impregnate" any woman around the globe? I do not think this belongs to thai world only and I think that "impregnating" (is that part of a factory manufacturing process?) a woman wil lalways mean a degree of repsonsabilties, moral and practical.
Then of course one can decide to walk away just t as he has drank a glass of plain water.
But I have one questsion: what does this have to do with the "foreign sex workers in Thailand thread"?
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1287796]And is it not the same when you "impregnate" any woman around the globe? I do not think this belongs to thai world only and I think that "impregnating" (is that part of a factory manufacturing process?) a woman wil lalways mean a degree of repsonsabilties, moral and practical.[/QUOTE]As they say, Thailand is "Same Same, But Different". Ditto for Thai women, birth control in LOS, etc. Fortunately, since I only ever go to 2 countries, and am only at risk of impregnating a female in one of them, I don't have to concern myself with "any woman around the globe".
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1287796]Then of course one can decide to walk away just t as he has drank a glass of plain water.[/QUOTE]I plan to keep returning to BKK, so that might be easier said than done.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1287796]But I have one questsion: what does this have to do with the "foreign sex workers in Thailand thread"?[/QUOTE]You might like to seek the origin of this discussion back a page or two. Or refer to a more recent post about knocking up an 80 year old Russian.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1287691]I hear ya!
It s why I don't have sex intercourse with thai girls. .[/QUOTE]Then why the f*k are you commenting in a Thai mongering forum. Do you even have a dick?
[QUOTE=Duniawala;1287948]Then why the f*k are you commenting in a Thai mongering forum. Do you even have a dick?[/QUOTE]Hey guys, just new here. You guys ever heard of safe sex? I was in Hat yai last year and hooking up with thai girls is not really that problem but why bother thinking of impregnating a TG when you can actually skip that part and and enjoy the experience.
[QUOTE=Djjack76; 1287966]Hey guys, just new here. You guys ever heard of safe sex? ...[/QUOTE]No!
Tell us about it.
Giotto
[QUOTE=Djjack76;1287966]Hey guys, just new here. You guys ever heard of safe sex? I was in Hat yai last year and hooking up with thai girls is not really that problem but why bother thinking of impregnating a TG when you can actually skip that part and and enjoy the experience.[/QUOTE]You mean trying (Jackson forgive me!) a LB?
[QUOTE=Djjack76;1287966]Hey guys, just new here. You guys ever heard of safe sex? I was in Hat yai last year and hooking up with thai girls is not really that problem but why bother thinking of impregnating a TG when you can actually skip that part and and enjoy the experience.[/QUOTE]What is "safe sex"? I think it might be considered an oxymoron. Since any kind of sex, even only kissing, leads to STI's, unless it is only done it with a pillow. Even then it is a remote possibility. And sex leads to pregnancies, unless extreme measures are taken or people are sterile or don't have intercourse.
[QUOTE=Duniawala;1287948]Then why the f*k are you commenting in a Thai mongering forum. Do you even have a dick?[/QUOTE]Convievably he's an outercourse rather than intercourse sex practitioner.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1287691]I hear ya!
It s why I don't have sex intercourse with thai girls.
I'm just too responsible of a person to want to go through all the hassle of what happens with unplanned pregnancy.
I can see nic or mr E ordering the girl to abort and if they don't they would just run away!
Sex inter course with strangers is way overrated.[/QUOTE]Harold,
What is sex intercourse, BTW? Arent they the same? And how on earth would you know that NicFrenchy, the master of all things Thai, and Mr. E would make girls pregnant and run away then?
I suspect you are a working girl who got done by them, got pregnant and hence bad mouthing them under a different alias. How true? .
Red Mosquito
So,
Harold444 has not beed to Pattaya, does not have sex with Thai girls, does not pay, I wonder what is he doing in a sex forum?
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1288303]So, Harold444 has not beed to Pattaya, does not have sex with Thai girls, does not pay, I wonder what is he doing in a sex forum?[/QUOTE]Hey, eunuchs got to have fun, too!
Maybe Jackson will give him his own thread,"Thai Duck Food."
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1288303]So,
Harold444 has not beed to Pattaya, does not have sex with Thai girls, does not pay, I wonder what is he doing in a sex forum?[/QUOTE]Harold444 just reached his target.
He is a "serial antagonist". If somebody does not know what that is - Jackson holds a PhD on the scientific field research studies of activities of serial antagonists in internet sex forums.
Serial Antagonists usually stay active for some time, creating good fun for all readers / writers. They get feed-backs from other posters, they get attention, and that is what they want. Serial Antagonists are avoiding any confrontation, to survive longer. That distinguishes them from controversially writing posters like OTH or JAD. Those bastards are of course banned or restricted in writing.
The best thing what we can do is to comment on their posts, to give them attention. That's what they want. Then they stay. And - we don't need controversially writing posters in this forum, but who the fuck cares about serial antagonists.
Giotto
[QUOTE=Fon Tok;1288366]Hey, eunuchs got to have fun, too! Maybe Jackson will give him his own thread,"Thai Duck Food."[/QUOTE]We were indeed missing your pictures a lot. Long time we don't see them, but memory lasts: the images showed long legged ones.
Doesn't seem the case here :)
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1288436]. But who the fuck cares about serial antagonists.
Giotto[/QUOTE]I notice he has to deal with the massive frustration of waiting till his posts eventually appear. Normally I just can't be bothered to read posts full of nonsense or any posters known for it.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1288473]This does sound like me. LOL.
Now can you explaint why so many take me so serious? Whats so antagonistic about saying sex with stranger is overrated-it is. LOL.
Or that Pattaya chicks are basically rejects, those who can't make it in BKK. Someone said girls know what they are worth and it is so true.[/QUOTE]Can we take that to mean that you will stay away from Pattaya because all the girls are rejects?
I sure hope so. We already have enough rejects here.
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1288436]Harold444 just reached his target.
He is a "serial antagonist". If somebody does not know what that is. Jackson holds a PhD on the scientific field research studies of activities of serial antagonists in internet sex forums.
Giotto[/QUOTE]Worse that that, he's not even vaguely amusing.
Maybe such is the void in his personal life at all he can do for self-affirmation is to post on a sex forum about a country he has never been to?
[QUOTE=Pointy Stick;1288700]Worse that that, he's not even vaguely amusing.[/QUOTE]Well, there's a lot of hahahahas and LOLs in his posts so at least he is amusing himself but he is relatively harmless and NOT an attack dog. There's been and still are lot worse characters on ISG. Just like life, forums like these are made of all sort of members; you have the take the good with the not so good.
[QUOTE=Run Mann;1288727]Well, there's a lot of hahahahas and LOLs in his posts so at least he is amusing himself but he is relatively harmless and NOT an attack dog. There's been and still are lot worse characters on ISG. Just like life, forums like these are made of all sort of members; you have the take the good with the not so good.[/QUOTE]True.
Since I've just taken two Soi 6 girls upstairs and done things to them that he's only jerked off to on the internet I'm feeling rather charitable. We should really be reaching out and encouraging him to travel to Thailand after he finishes high school.
[QUOTE=Pointy Stick; 1288780]True.
Since I've just taken two Soi 6 girls upstairs and done things to them that he's only jerked off to on the internet I'm feeling rather charitable. We should really be reaching out and encouraging him to travel to Thailand after he finishes high school.[/QUOTE]Most likely he can only fly as U. M.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1288473]This does sound like me. LOL.
Now can you explaint why so many take me so serious?[/QUOTE]Harold444,
I definitely have no idea.
And now go away.
Giotto
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1288303]So,
Harold444 has not beed to Pattaya, does not have sex with Thai girls, does not pay, I wonder what is he doing in a sex forum?[/QUOTE]Hahaha So true Nic,
I guess he's blessed with a long stick so he pulls it back from between his legs and f*cks himself. Easy on the pocket. ROFL.
RM
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1288473]This does sound like me. LOL.
Now can you explaint why so many take me so serious? Whats so antagonistic about saying sex with stranger is overrated-it is. LOL.
Or that Pattaya chicks are basically rejects, those who can't make it in BKK. Someone said girls know what they are worth and it is so true.[/QUOTE]It is obvious from your poor spelling, grammar and syntax that english is your second language or you have an education level of a 8 year old. It appears that you are using an online translation device to post your inane comments and childish responses to the adults who have substantive and informative comments for those reading this forum.
Therefore, I would strongly suggest you refrain from any further posts until you either:
1. Get an education,
2. Grow up in a decade from now, or
3. Get a life.
Where can I find a midget East Indian in Thailand?
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1297976]Where can I find a midget East Indian in Thailand?[/QUOTE]There are no East Indian midgets. Only Thai ones.:)
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1288788]Most likely he can only fly as U. M.[/QUOTE]UM have all the luck. They get a nice stewardess to personally take care of them.
[QUOTE=Duniawala;1298229]There are no East Indian midgets. Only Thai ones.:)[/QUOTE]I'd be willing to settle for a semi Russian FF midget that looks like Anna Kournikova.
But I want to avoid a "walk of shame" & pay no more than 500 baht LT.
About a week back spent a very pleasant evening at Nana 'boom boom' hotel. Took a walk down Sukhumvit towards Asoke. What struck me was the significant increase in the numbers of African chicks since last being around about two years back. Unfortunately, many African pimps accompany them close by. I don't normally overnight in Bangkok, this time was rewarding and I met and chatted to numerous mongers on this particular day. Very pleasurable indeed.
Chinwagged with a couple of sexy African providers who quoted 1000b ST, however, I got the feeling one could negotiate 800b or so. I had no intention of playing as I was looking for a nice Thai which I found towards Asoke for a lovely session despite being worse for wear from tiredness and Alcohol consumption. Taxi was 40b to 'boom boom' hotel.
My Thai provider had the most glorious hair and attitude. While in 69, I asked her if she did anal, she mumbled 2000b for bum which sounded humorous as she had my dick in her mouth. When doing her K9 I held her glorious hair as if it were reins, pulling playfully. Took me sometime to finally blow my load gifting her a Pearl necklace not before some boob fucking of her generous mammaries. Fantastic effort and attitude on her behalf. 1000b + 100b tip. I was well pleased with my Bangkok overnight before leaving for home after a month away.
I had hoped for a soapy session at Annies, that will have to wait for next time, not too disapointing though.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1299295]I'd be willing to settle for a semi Russian FF midget that looks like Anna Kournikova.
But I want to avoid a "walk of shame" & pay no more than 500 baht LT.[/QUOTE]For that generous price she should allow you to take photos and post them on ISG.
Worth a look, but I'm not sure how old this Doc is. Grace hotel in Bangkok is / was the spot for Uzbek women. [url]http://youtu.be/NVe3AxTldgs[/url]
Update: it was filmed in summer 2011, so fairly up to date.
[QUOTE=Wanking; 1307784]Worth a look, but I'm not sure how old this Doc is. Grace hotel in Bangkok is / was the spot for Uzbek women.
[url]http://youtu.be/NVe3AxTldgs[/url]
Update: it was filmed in summer 2011, so fairly up to date.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the link. Interesting movie to watch. Unfortunately, it's overblown and sensationalized. 20% substance. 80% hot air. It could have been a proper documentary, but that would have been too difficult and actually dangerous.
In Pattaya on Walking Street there's a bar (opposite Linda Bar and a big tree) where are african (mostly from Kenya) hookers from around ten o'clock in the evening until?
Prices for ST: 800. 2000 Baht.
ON / LT: 2000. 3000 Baht
[QUOTE=Wanking; 1307784]Worth a look, but I'm not sure how old this Doc is. Grace hotel in Bangkok is / was the spot for Uzbek women.
[url]http://youtu.be/NVe3AxTldgs[/url]
Update: it was filmed in summer 2011, so fairly up to date.[/QUOTE]Great Video, I did not know there were so many Uzbeks in BKK
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1308027]Great Video, I did not know there were so many Uzbeks in BKK[/QUOTE]How many are there?
I see them quite often in the daytime at the Family Mart on soi 4, which is almost directly across the street from the 7 eleven on the way to Annies.
BTW they seem to me to be quite rude.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1308151]BTW they seem to me to be quite rude.[/QUOTE]Well, if someone promises you a job as a secretary and then takes your passports and forces you to sleep with Arabs, would you have a smile on your face and be nice to people?
[QUOTE=Wanking; 1307784]Worth a look, but I'm not sure how old this Doc is. Grace hotel in Bangkok is / was the spot for Uzbek women.
[url]http://youtu.be/NVe3AxTldgs[/url][/QUOTE]This was aired on NatGeo where I am. Watched it last week. Of course they kept the subject focus clearly on the poor duped WHITE foreign women who were trafficked in under so many supposed false pretenses. Whole episode completely ignored the massive Thai sex trade, which is of course why they got such high moral cooperation from the Thai police General. Chai chai! Of course we are doing something to help these poor women who are getting taken advantage by scumbags in our country, violating our laws and otherwise soiling our country (and, no, please don't look left or right at what's going on around them)!
Too bad the do-gooders weren't clued-in enough to take a 1 min walk from the Grace Hotel to the corner of Nana to film the Nigerian (actually I don't know what the fuck African country they emanate from) pimps who lay out on the cement steps of Nana Square like lazy seals on an iceberg watching their harem of trafficked African hoes turn tricks across the street. They could have done a 2-in-1 show. Or maybe they are keeping that footage in vault for Saving Foreign Sex Workers in Thailand: Part II.
All through the show I was thinking how oblivious they were to the scene. Their ignorance is bliss for us mongers. Best part of the show was the revelation by the do-gooders that they may actually be doing more harm than good to the girls. Revolutionary admission IMHO. After all, did you really think the traffickers were going to give these girls a free pass to testify against them in court without threatening their families back home? Puh-leeezz. Enjoy Thailand, AsianRain
Has anyone ever entered a "better class" hotel such as the Marriott with one of the African SWs?
[QUOTE=David_33;1310942]Has anyone ever entered a "better class" hotel such as the Marriott with one of the African SWs?[/QUOTE]I took one into the JW near Nana once.
No issues.
Why? They are probably more concerned about LB than them.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1308027]Great Video, I did not know there were so many Uzbeks in BKK[/QUOTE]While there may well be Uzbek hoes in Bangkok, volontarily or unvolontarily, the probmel seems to be highly exagurated. The video seems to be edited and produced for one purpose only: To support the feminist and moralist hyppocrate do-gooders who hate men that go to prostitutes. It's something happening worldwide and I detest this "political correctness" mode.
Women who are forced to slavery should be helped, yes. But in most cases the foreign women working the sex trade are well aware of what is expected from them before they join. They see an opportunity to make some easy money, and halleluja to that.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1311009]Why? They are probably more concerned about LB than them.[/QUOTE]Do you really think so?
Hi Guys,
Anyone know of any filo's available in Pattaya? Apart from that singer in a resterant on Beach road around the soi 7 area. I have no idea if she is available but she is the only filo I have noticed there. I did read something in a post about a bar in BKK stocked with filo's. Well any info would be greatly appreciated.
[QUOTE=Johnstegliani; 1311922]Hi Guys,
Anyone know of any filo's available in Pattaya? Apart from that singer in a resterant on Beach road around the soi 7 area. I have no idea if she is available but she is the only filo I have noticed there. I did read something in a post about a bar in BKK stocked with filo's. Well any info would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]Why don't you go to Filoland? Full of Filos there. Enjoy the trip.
[QUOTE=Johnstegliani; 1311922]Hi Guys,
Anyone know of any filo's available in Pattaya?
There is a Greek restaurant off 2nd Road that serves various Filo pastries.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1313555]
[QUOTE=Johnstegliani; 1311922]Hi Guys,
Anyone know of any filo's available in Pattaya?
There is a Greek restaurant off 2nd Road that serves various Filo pastries.[/QUOTE]Har Har Har. Looks like I'll have to go to AC to satisfy my pastrie cravings.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1313555]
[QUOTE=Johnstegliani; 1311922]Hi Guys,
Anyone know of any filo's available in Pattaya? [/QUOTE]
There is a Greek restaurant off 2nd Road that serves various Filo pastries.[/QUOTE]You mean filo's do greek? Wow, the mind dazzles in considering all the options you get when playing with filo's.
I think phisically there's not much different between Filipino and thai girls. So while in Thailand, why don't you look for Usbek girls. ?
[QUOTE=Hbengkok;1313799]I think phisically there's not much different between Filipino and thai girls. So while in Thailand, why don't you look for Usbek girls. ?[/QUOTE]Ouch. They are totally different. Or maybe I live too long in Asia.
Cheers.
T. 72
[QUOTE=Tabasco72; 1314815]Ouch. They are totally different. Or maybe I live too long in Asia.
Cheers.
T. 72[/QUOTE]I'm agree! The philipino girls are, often, taller than thai girl but the first difference is: the boobs! Its easy to found a phlipino girl with a breast!
Can anyone confirm a report of many Uzbekistani working girls on Beach Road in Pattaya?
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1316856]Can anyone confirm a report of many Uzbekistani working girls on Beach Road in Pattaya?[/QUOTE]Yes, you can have couple of uzbek girls in beach road or in walking street in your afternoon move.
Now the point is, will you like to have them in your bag? They are weighty, highly painted and far away in GFE sense from thai girls.
I have visited Taskent, and the truth is, was there only for Uzbek girls. I found them very much GFE, and doable for any test. I strongly believe, the unused coins are are strolling in thai only to try at least what they can make. Because BKK or pat is bigger market then they have in their own country.
In Thailand I will be there only for thai girls.
[QUOTE=Mua Tur; 1317027]Yes, you can have couple of uzbek girls in beach road or in walking street in your afternoon move.
Now the point is, will you like to have them in your bag? They are weighty, highly painted and far away in GFE sense from thai girls.
I have visited Taskent, and the truth is, was there only for Uzbek girls. I found them very much GFE, and doable for any test. I strongly believe, the unused coins are are strolling in thai only to try at least what they can make. Because BKK or pat is bigger market then they have in their own country.
In Thailand I will be there only for thai girls.[/QUOTE]The ones in Pattaya in this video, who were on Beach Road, don't look too bad:
[url]http://www.pattayapeople.com/default.asp?Folder=16&IdArticle=31198[/url]
I've also seen some half decent ones around Grace Hotel & soi 3 & 4 in Bangkok. If you like big knockers & white skin.
"After receiving complaints about women pestering tourists along Beach Road, Pattaya police officers went out in the early hours of Thursday morning to patrol the famous beach front strip. There they came upon a group of 7 women, who claimed they were tourists from Uzbekistan. Yes, direct from Central Asia, they're back in town, those classy ladies of the night ready to perform their tricks. Three of them failed to produce their passports, so were taken back to the station for processing, and together with their companions were charged with prostitution, fined and then let loose to no doubt continue their sightseeing around Pattaya."
[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1317422]The ones in Pattaya in this video, who were on Beach Road, don't look too bad.
I've also seen some half decent ones around Grace Hotel & soi 3 & 4 in Bangkok. If you like big knockers & white skin.[/QUOTE]The ones in that video look far better than most I've seen in Pattaya. Uzbek working women who seem remotely doable are few and far between in Thailand. Seems to be a bit of a stop of last resort.
[QUOTE=Mua Tur; 1317027]Yes, you can have couple of uzbek girls in beach road or in walking street in your afternoon move.
I have visited Taskent, and the truth is, was there only for Uzbek girls. I found them very much GFE, and doable for any test. I strongly believe, the unused coins are are strolling in thai only to try at least what they can make. Because BKK or pat is bigger market then they have in their own country.
In Thailand I will be there only for thai girls.[/QUOTE]Yeah, that's supposed to have done whille in Thailand. But the problem is, I love white girls, and I can't afford to go P4p to Tashkent, because air travel and hotels will be more expensive.
Anyway, where in Tashkent you find that girls: clubs, discos, hotels?
Thank you brother.
Hi Guys,
I will be in BKK around the 22nd December and wanted to know if the foreign ladies go home at this time of the year. I was wanting to spend some time with ladies from Uzbek or other CIS ladies but there is a strong possibility they will be with their families at this time.
Does any one have advice on this.
Regards,
The Rev
[QUOTE=TheAfricanBoy; 1325542]Hi Guys,
I will be in BKK around the 22nd December and wanted to know if the foreign ladies go home at this time of the year. I was wanting to spend some time with ladies from Uzbek or other CIS ladies but there is a strong possibility they will be with their families at this time.
Does any one have advice on this.
Regards,
The Rev[/QUOTE]Due to the fact that many of these women are forced into the business, I'd say they will be working during the holiday season. I'd say you will get sex from Uzbek ladies no problem during Christmas.
[QUOTE=Wanking;1327398]Due to the fact that many of these women are forced into the business[/QUOTE]Wanking, just like yourself I love my humour, could not get through life without it. The above statement really made my day. You inadvertently cracked a most halarious joke, I'm not mocking you. Just how serious do you take Mainstream Media?
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1317500]The ones in that video look far better than most I've seen in Pattaya. Uzbek working women who seem remotely doable are few and far between in Thailand. Seems to be a bit of a stop of last resort.[/QUOTE]Tried a couple of cis women in Pattaya a couple of years back, poor quality and worse service.
I have had much better experiences with cis in delhi but in Thailand I would only stick to the thais literally speaking.
[QUOTE=Hbengkok;1324714]Anyway, where in Tashkent you find that girls: clubs, discos, hotels?[/QUOTE]I stayed at Hotel Ali Tour (If you google you can find the hotel website). Mr. Ali himself a great companion. Love to drink and happy to see you with the girls he invited for you.
There are couple of night clubs I have visited. The best one is Napoleon at Babur Park.
U can find street girls in after dark, as in bus stops and Ali Timur Park. U can find girls in the cars parked in front of Hotel Dodeman or I forget more details.
These ifos are couple of years before. Now these days scenario may be changed.
Do you know where I can find black girls in Bangkok and Pattaya?
Do you have any contacts to share (PM)?
[QUOTE=Otari; 1328645]Do you know where I can find black girls in Bangkok and Pattaya?
Do you have any contacts to share (PM)?[/QUOTE]Walk across the street (SUKHUMVIT from Soi 4 Nana) Starting about midnight, I have seen them earlier but not normally before 10, walk past Soi 13. You'll have a wide selection.
On to a report of sorts, Today around 1 pm was in MBK, walking around I made eye contact with a girl not bad looking, I stopped and started talking to her asking the usual, name, stats crap, like that. She told me her name was Pham, from Vietnam, here on vacation. Offered to take me back to her hotel for 1500 B. When I declined she came out with list of things that were on the menu. Any way I was a bit surprised to see a Viet girl peddling puss out here, I guess I have seen stranger things.
I know some guy is going to write and ask if she said she would do anal, Like I wrote she said everything was on the table, said she also had a friend. I didnt see the friend, but this Pham wasnt bad looking.
[QUOTE=Monte3;1328831]...Any way I was a bit surprised to see a Viet girl peddling puss out here, I guess I have seen stranger things...[/quote]I am not surprised. They need cash, Cambodia is too cheap, Hong Kong for visa reasons no longer an option, for Thailand they don't need a visa (I believe) and by bus the journey is a bargain.
[QUOTE=Otari;1328645]Do you know where I can find black girls in Bangkok and Pattaya?[/QUOTE]Have seen a few slender and young ones before, most of them Nigerians. Have tried a few times in the past, mostly using them for their oral skills. So far 100% BBBJ rate from them, about half accept CIM. Most of them quite standard 1. 5k okay.
Some may ask you to go to their room, but do not recommend this, we do not know what's in their room. Many linger near the corner of Suk and Nana, some line up on the Suk near that corner. Variety is always a good thing.
[QUOTE=Monte3; 1328831]I was a bit surprised to see a Viet girl peddling puss out here, I guess I have seen stranger things.[/QUOTE]I am a regular visitor to Cambodia, and find the Viet girls far better, friendlier and more affectionate than todays Thai girls. They compare to Thais 20 years ago!
[QUOTE=Bumholes1;1329033]I am a regular visitor to Cambodia, and find the Viet girls far better, friendlier and more affectionate than todays Thai girls. They compare to Thais 20 years ago![/QUOTE]Friendlier?? I guess if you looking for a friend.
I have not found that truly. They don't seem to know how to suck Dick or give good rim job and overall make man happy. I like Thais in those areas.
The worst cock suckers I have experienced are the Cambodians.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1329044]The worst cock suckers I have experienced are the Cambodians.[/QUOTE]To my knowledge, I have not had the experience of having had my dick in a Cambodian girls mouth, that being said, I will say some of the worst experiences in aggregate, Have been Korean girls. They act like ones cock is poison.
[QUOTE=Monte3;1329063]To my knowledge, I have not had the experience of having had my dick in a Cambodian girls mouth,[/QUOTE]I fortunately have, and on several recent occasions. No complaints whatsoever.
As for being friendlier, being your friend during the time you are with them, and treating them like friends and not hookers will bring its own good results.
[QUOTE=Monte3;1329063]I have not had the experience of having had my dick in a Cambodian girls mouth, that being said, I will say some of the worst experiences in aggregate, Have been Korean girls. They act like ones cock is poison.[/QUOTE]In my experiences, Cambodians in PP mostly will do good BBBJ. But Cambo upcounty is a different story. The competition for customers is quite harsh in PP, you can always ask before taking her out. Most of them will do it to satisfy customers unless the girl find your stick sickening or have obvious defects, at least of least they will do some CBJ. The Viets in Cambodia mostly will do BBBJ as well, no problem for me. To me it seems the BJ rate for Cambos is higher than Thais these days. Many times, I get so frustrated paying 3000-4000 bahts in Thai soapies and to only receive a 10 second CBJ! Or spending big bucks taking a gogo girl out and find out she suddenly develops canker sore. If this kind happens in China, the shop will get smashed for sure. About the Korean workers, they will do BBBJ to their regulars, most of them will do at least some CBJ in my limited experiences.
[QUOTE=Monte3;1328831]Walk across the street (SUKHUMVIT from Soi 4 Nana) Starting about midnight, I have seen them earlier but not normally before 10, walk past Soi 13. You'll have a wide selection.[/QUOTE]Thank you. I'll try those freelances. What are prices for LT / ST for Thai and foreign girls? Do those freelances understand ST as 2-3 hours with multiple pops or this is rather 1 hour / 1 pop?
[QUOTE=Otari;1330777]Thank you. I'll try those freelances. What are prices for LT / ST for Thai and foreign girls? Do those freelances understand ST as 2-3 hours with multiple pops or this is rather 1 hour / 1 pop?[/QUOTE]Really have no clue, Since I'm an American here in Thailand, I consider myself to be the foreigner. I have been to Africa, and Russia, while there, experienced the local flavors.
While here, I only spend my time and money on the Thai / Asian ladies.
I only know where they are because when walking, I see them and polite, speaking to say hello and 'No Thank You' I never have engaged one in enough conversation to know what they will do, or what they charge.
Have Fun and be sure to write a report, I may have to change up and your report may help.
[QUOTE=Otari;1330777](snip) Do those freelances understand ST as 2-3 hours with multiple pops or this is rather 1 hour / 1 pop?[/QUOTE]There is no law or city regulation which settles that. Negotiate with the girl and make very clear what you expect of her.
[QUOTE=Otari;1330777]Thank you. I'll try those freelances. What are prices for LT / ST for Thai and foreign girls? Do those freelances understand ST as 2-3 hours with multiple pops or this is rather 1 hour / 1 pop?[/QUOTE]African girls in general are not service orientated. It is very much wam-bam, skiddadle, and perhaps with your possesions if you do not have them secured. Expect to pay 800 to 1000THB ST. Negotiate hard, perhaps you get lucky, good attitude and LT her. Most are found on Sukhumvit, Soi 4/5. Don't be intimidated by the pimps / boyfriends.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1331075]There is no law or city regulation which settles that. Negotiate with the girl and make very clear what you expect of her.[/QUOTE]Provided you can communicate with her as I don't speak Thai. Therefore I would like to know what unwritten rules are. What is typical damage for ST / LP for Thai or foreign freelances?
[QUOTE=Noddy;1331078]African girls in general are not service orientated. It is very much wam-bam, skiddadle, and perhaps with your possesions if you do not have them secured. Expect to pay 800 to 1000THB ST. Negotiate hard, perhaps you get lucky, good attitude and LT her. Most are found on Sukhumvit, Soi 4/5. Don't be intimidated by the pimps / boyfriends.[/QUOTE]I once had an African girl from Beach Club in KL. She was quite GFE and stayed LT until well into the morning. After she wanted to leave, we had an extra round because it was raining. Of course a little more money involved than in BKK.
[QUOTE=Noddy;1331078]African girls in general are not service orientated. It is very much wam-bam, skiddadle, and perhaps with your possesions if you do not have them secured. Expect to pay 800 to 1000THB ST. Negotiate hard, perhaps you get lucky, good attitude and LT her. Most are found on Sukhumvit, Soi 4/5. Don't be intimidated by the pimps / boyfriends.[/QUOTE]Not service oriented, hard negotiations, possibility to loose my possessions, troubles with pimps. Maybe I should stick to Thai freelances. Do Thai freelances charge the same (1000THB) for ST?
[QUOTE=Otari;1331191]Not service oriented, hard negotiations, possibility to loose my possessions, troubles with pimps. Maybe I should stick to Thai freelances. Do Thai freelances charge the same (1000THB) for ST?[/QUOTE]Seriously, you should stay at home. It took 20 posts on the subject to realize that?
There are literally thousands of posts on the prices. Do some reading befor you ask.
Definition of FREElance- to be able to do and / or charge whatever they want. You have only so much in your pocket, negotiate. Don't have the money, find another or stay home.
[QUOTE=Duniawala;1331232]Definition of FREElance- to be able to do and / or charge whatever they want. You have only so much in your pocket, negotiate. Don't have the money, find another or stay home.[/QUOTE]Thank you for advice. I just wanted to compare Thai and foreign freelances. I think that Thai girls don't make such a troubles as black girls.
Why would you go to Thailand to bang an Afro hooker? Seems odd to me. Plenty of Africans in Africa, plenty of Injuns in India, etc. Etc. Etc.
And when in Thailand, plenty of Thais. Inexpensive, relatively safe and mostly with a much friendlier attitude. Dude. Get your act together.
[QUOTE=Dajudge;1331278](snip) Dude. Get your act together.[/QUOTE]Judge not others, lest you be judged yourself. (Matt. 7:1)
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1331282]Judge not others, lest you be judged yourself. (Matt. 7:1)[/QUOTE]Shaddap when you can add no substance.
[QUOTE=Dajudge;1331278]Why would you go to Thailand to bang an Afro hooker? Seems odd to me.[/QUOTE]Could be in Thailand for other reasons. Does not mean someone doesn't want variety. Each to there own. If the foreigners were of suitable quality, why not? I apologise for having screwed African girls without visiting Africa. Also Romanians, Ukrainian, Hungarian, Jamaican, Dom. Rep, Brazialian, Colombian, Venezuelan, and many others without ever visiting their home country. One Kenyan girl had amazing lips and amazing tits. Was hot. Which country I was in at the time was just not relevant. As long as they are classy girls (too many in Thailand probably are not).
Of course I don't come to Thailand with express purpose fuck something other than Thai girls. No need to limit oneself.
[QUOTE=Dajudge;1331321]Shaddap when you can add no substance.[/QUOTE]If you practice what you preach, next to none of your post would survive.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1331425]Could be in Thailand for other reasons. Does not mean someone doesn't want variety. Each to there own. If the foreigners were of suitable quality, why not? I apologise for having screwed African girls without visiting Africa. Also Romanians, Ukrainian, Hungarian, Jamaican, Dom. Rep, Brazialian, Colombian, Venezuelan, and many others without ever visiting their home country. One Kenyan girl had amazing lips and amazing tits. Was hot. Which country I was in at the time was just not relevant. As long as they are classy girls (too many in Thailand probably are not).
Of course I don't come to Thailand with express purpose fuck something other than Thai girls. No need to limit oneself.[/QUOTE]Agree with you on screwing other nationalities in any country. Probably the best choices I had was in the German FKK clubs. But somehow the choices in BKK is down to picking the best of the worst. I still have to see a gem in the muck.
of interest, the african contingent have become somewhat rep001tered. good! some will say. local le, seen on sukhumvit around soi 5, are in attendance, despite this, local freelances; although few, still operate under the noses of le. african pimps, drug dealers, bf's, are scarce, thank goodness. an idiot was gesturing me something, drugs?
the africans can still be found on the length of sukhumvit from soi's 5 and down towards asoke. did not see anything doable, complete hags i'm afraid and they have the habit of reaching out to touch. not encouraging.
I applaude Thai LE trying to get rid of as many (hopefully all) of the Africans in BKK.
According to the following video, Russian hookers have hung out regularly at the soi 7/1 Subway in Bangkok.
This is shown around the 5 minute mark.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkdYlpicRsc&feature=watch-vrec[/url]
[QUOTE=Member #3200;1352103]I applaude Thai LE trying to get rid of as many (hopefully all) of the Africans in BKK.[/QUOTE]
Yes, its just great. Next step - you and me, whitey. ;)
Seriously, I've walked past those ladies a million times, and never suffered any horrible repercussions, other than a grabbed elbow. (old timers will remember that many years ago, the Thai ladies themselves used to grab your elbow as well - back when the supply/demand ratio was better)
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1352238]According to the following video, Russian hookers have hung out regularly at the soi 7/1 Subway in Bangkok.[/QUOTE]Yes. Saw a lovely blond there and about's, I walked past her on several occasions, she kept gesturing, very doable, mid thirties, I would say. Thai providers for the hunt however.
Re the following video:
At one minute in you begin to see African P4P streetwalkers on sukhumvit between soi 3 and 5 on the left side of the sidewalk.
At about the 6 minute and 23 seconds mark you get another look at the African & Thai hookers working on the street on lower sukhumvit.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7KD8xBYxiU&NR=1&feature=endscreen[/url]
[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1353121]Re the following video:
At one minute in you begin to see African P4P streetwalkers on sukhumvit between soi 3 and 5 on the left side of the sidewalk.[/QUOTE]I don't usually pass here but did so last night on the way to "Check Inn", and wasn't that impressed. Not to Dominican Republic quality of looks. I think I'll stick to the Thais. Maybe the pretty ones were already busy. Maybe they could get customers by going very very cheaply, but I would not be interested at any price. The black girls available in Europe are sometimes of a much higher standard.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1360401]I don't usually pass here but did so last night on the way to "Check Inn", and wasn't that impressed. Not to Dominican Republic quality of looks. I think I'll stick to the Thais. Maybe the pretty ones were already busy. Maybe they could get customers by going very very cheaply, but I would not be interested at any price. The black girls available in Europe are sometimes of a much higher standard.[/QUOTE]I would never be inclined towards such African girls as seen in the video, even if they paid me. Maybe if they looked like Halle Berry.
[url]http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Halle[/url]
But that is besides the point, as the purpose of posting such info is not to let everyone know my tastes or to "impress" poster Syzygies. One man's garbage is another's treasure.
As to the price, I can't say what they ask or go for, but being a foreigner in Thailand automaticly ups their value. For example the older over the hill "Russians" sitting outside at soi7/1 were asking 1500 baht for 2 hours, whereas young attractive street working Thai girls go for 1000 ST. So I'd suggest your comment about the Africans maybe being able to get customers if they go "very very cheaply" is off the mark. Furthermore, I doubt they'd be there if they weren't getting customers. Not everyone has your tastes or mine, and novelty (banging a foreigner who is rare in Thailand) means a lot to some people.
BTW I was by there last night (Friday) & didn't see any Africans, though there were what seemed to be several "Russians" sitting at the Subway on soi 7/1.
I'm sure there are African girls in Europe of a "much higher standard", and price. Likewise with the Russians.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1360676]As to the price, I can't say what they ask or go for, but being a foreigner in Thailand automaticly ups their value. For example the older over the hill "Russians" sitting outside at soi7/1 were asking 1500 baht for 2 hours, whereas young attractive street working Thai girls go for 1000 ST. So I'd suggest your comment about the Africans maybe being able to get customers if they go "very very cheaply" is off the mark. Furthermore, I doubt they'd be there if they weren't getting customers. Not everyone has your tastes or mine, and novelty (banging a foreigner who is rare in Thailand) means a lot to some people.
BTW I was by there last night (Friday) & didn't see any Africans, though there were what seemed to be several "Russians" sitting at the Subway on soi 7/1.
I'm sure there are African girls in Europe of a "much higher standard", and price. Likewise with the Russians.[/QUOTE]Yes I cannot desagree with anything you say, although I did not look at the video. I saw the actual lineup at one time.
I won't do anyone who does not reach a minimum standard of looks and sexiness. Every person has a preconditioning about looks built in. There is so much choice in Bangkok. If that comes dearer, so be it. Yes the black girls in Europe are dearer. Some are pretty, very hot, and passionate. Mostly I am finding the ones I like seem to originate from South America through to West Indies and Cuba. Its not clear to me why they are more attractive on average than from other parts. Perhaps mixed blood in their ancestry.
I have seen the odd extremely sexy girl Bangkok with quite dark skin, that I would defi itely have gone for if not for she already had company, but unlikely that she was African and could have even been part Asian, part something else. Mixed race girls can be stunning. I recall one in Frankfurt walking with dark skinned mother and tall blonde German father. She was an absolute eye magnet for the whole shopping centre.
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I was wondering if Russians are still available? Rates? Location?
Are they available particular months/days of year or all year long?
[QUOTE=Fck Dick; 1364827]I was wondering if Russians are still available? Rates? Location?
Are they available particular months / days of year or all year long?[/QUOTE]Why don't you give a reading of the previous posts and pages?
Seems you put all you efforts in asking and never in reading or reporting.
[QUOTE=Fck Dick; 1364827]I was wondering if Russians are still available? Rates? Location?
Are they available particular months / days of year or all year long?[/QUOTE]Hi,
You can get Uzbeks and Russians in BOSSY disco and NOVOTEL Disco.
If you want to catch them early, try your luck on soi 4 as many of them live in Omni tower on soi 4 and leave for work after 8 or 9 pm.
Bamboo bar on soi 3 is another option.
Cheers!
[QUOTE=Joyra; 1365084]Hi,
You can get Uzbeks and Russians in BOSSY disco and NOVOTEL Disco.
If you want to catch them early, try your luck on soi 4 as many of them live in Omni tower on soi 4 and leave for work after 8 or 9 pm.
Bamboo bar on soi 3 is another option.
Cheers![/QUOTE]Is Mike Place still running? Or did they close the place?
Since the uzbeki and similar girls ply their trade from here most of time, does it make sense to stay there for one night go enjoy a buffet sampling?
What do you say
[QUOTE=Margaya; 1375045]Since the uzbeki and similar girls ply their trade from here most of time, does it make sense to stay there for one night go enjoy a buffet sampling?
What do you say[/QUOTE]In my opinion, not really. I've not been inside the Grace, but the Rajah is not a very nice place. When I visited late last year, I made a special trip to the Rajah in search of the infamous "Russian" girls known to hang out there. While in the hotel, I asked if I could take a look at one of their rooms and to say they are dumpy is, I think, being quite charitable. I struck up a conversation in the lobby with a few men who were staying there (these guys were tourists from Africa) and they claimed the hotel was adequate, but not much more. The lobby is not very nice and the restaurant, when I visited, was basically empty.
The girls seem to get "staged" in the hotel lobby starting sometime between 7pm and 8pm. A few of them were in the restaurant when I went in. None of them can speak any English. I spoke with their handler, and he wanted 3100 Bhat for short time. Only short time, with a one-pop, was on the menu. I decided it wasn't worth it. I suppose if I really wanted Russians then I would head to Russia or another EE country.
My understanding before I went was that these girls worked exclusively from this hotel, but I did see a few of them (same girls) in another apartment building on Soi 4that is home to a massage parlor in one of its units. So, I guess some of them do some freelance work on Soi 4, but I never actually saw them outside.
If you want to see a lineup then by all means head into the lobby but as for staying at the hotel, I would take a pass. Hope this helps.
Blue Nose,
Thanks a lot for the details, v helpful indeed. I will insist on my hotel room for ST and no more than 2k.
[QUOTE=Blue Nose; 1382648]In my opinion, not really. I've not been inside the Grace, but the Rajah is not a very nice place. When I visited late last year, I made a special trip to the Rajah in search of the infamous "Russian" girls known to hang out there. While in the hotel, I asked if I could take a look at one of their rooms and to say they are dumpy is, I think, being quite charitable. I struck up a conversation in the lobby with a few men who were staying there (these guys were tourists from Africa) and they claimed the hotel was adequate, but not much more. The lobby is not very nice and the restaurant, when I visited, was basically empty.
The girls seem to get "staged" in the hotel lobby starting sometime between 7pm and 8pm. A few of them were in the restaurant when I went in. None of them can speak any English. I spoke with their handler, and he wanted 3100 Bhat for short time. Only short time, with a one-pop, was on the menu. I decided it wasn't worth it. I suppose if I really wanted Russians then I would head to Russia or another EE country.
My understanding before I went was that these girls worked exclusively from this hotel, but I did see a few of them (same girls) in another apartment building on Soi 4that is home to a massage parlor in one of its units. So, I guess some of them do some freelance work on Soi 4, but I never actually saw them outside.
If you want to see a lineup then by all means head into the lobby but as for staying at the hotel, I would take a pass. Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Margaya; 1382851]Blue Nose,
Thanks a lot for the details, v helpful indeed. I will insist on my hotel room for ST and no more than 2k.[/QUOTE]I think that's absolutely the way to go. When selecting a venue, pick a hotel that best serves YOUR needs based on your trip requirements. There are plenty of girl friendly hotels within walking distance of Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy. A quick google search will help you locate these. I usually book through agoda. com and I do spend a while purusing the reviews of the hotel as well as pictures of the facility and the amenities. Always mark the number of guests as "2" when you make the reservation as some of the hotels offer free breakfasts etc for two people, but sometimes only if the reservation is made for 2 (I learned this the hard way!) This will save you a few bhat if you have an overnight guest whom you'd like to take for breakfast.
I'm headed back to Bangkok in 10 days so I will take another run past the Rajah and report back in if I see anything of interest there. I also plan on checking out the Grace hotel this time, if for no other reason than to see what kind of action is hanging around out front or in the lobby. In addition to the Raja for Russian girls (who most likely are really Central Asian girls) try walking along soi 7/1 and you may see a few. If you like African girls, the Sukhimvit odd-numbered lower sois seem have quite a few of them. Off topic, but if you're going to be in that area, I have found that the money exchange places along the walking street just off soi 3 have the best exchange rates, at least for US dollars. This small street should be called "little Arabia". It is unbelievable: arabic signs everywhere, women in full-yes, I do mean full-black burkas in the mid-day BKK sun, and lots of little shops and restaurants. Cool just to go and take a look. Have fun!
[QUOTE=Blue Nose; 1383083]I think that's absolutely the way to go. When selecting a venue, pick a hotel that best serves YOUR needs based on your trip requirements. There are plenty of girl friendly hotels within walking distance of Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy. A quick google search will help you locate these. I usually book through agoda. Com and I do spend a while purusing the reviews of the hotel as well as pictures of the facility and the amenities. Always mark the number of guests as "2" when you make the reservation as some of the hotels offer free breakfasts etc for two people, but sometimes only if the reservation is made for 2 (I learned this the hard way!) This will save you a few bhat if you have an overnight guest whom you'd like to take for breakfast.
I'm headed back to Bangkok in 10 days so I will take another run past the Rajah and report back in if I see anything of interest there. I also plan on checking out the Grace hotel this time, if for no other reason than to see what kind of action is hanging around out front or in the lobby. In addition to the Raja for Russian girls (who most likely are really Central Asian girls) try walking along soi 7/1 and you may see a few. If you like African girls, the Sukhimvit odd-numbered lower sois seem have quite a few of them. Off topic, but if you're going to be in that area, I have found that the money exchange places along the walking street just off soi 3 have the best exchange rates, at least for US dollars. This small street should be called "little Arabia". It is unbelievable: arabic signs everywhere, women in full-yes, I do mean full-black burkas in the mid-day BKK sun, and lots of little shops and restaurants. Cool just to go and take a look. Have fun![/QUOTE]I've exchanged USDollars at a number of different money exchange places, including in the Arab section. Superrich 1965 always has the best exchange rates.
Anyone had any experience with the upscale Russian escorts?
[QUOTE=PhilFox;1387455]Anyone had any experience with the upscale Russian escorts?[/QUOTE]'Yes'
But probably this is not the answer your are looking for.
Please read top 10 pages and then ask any specific quesions you have
[QUOTE=PhilFox;1387455]Anyone had any experience with the upscale Russian escorts?[/QUOTE]For $400 an hour. NO
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1389380]For $400 an hour. NO[/QUOTE]Ran into her last Saturday. Heard a lot of her. She is not upscale but quoted me 1000bht for St. Did not go with her ofcourse but bought her and me some Subwayfood.
[QUOTE=Skogis;1389466]Ran into her last Saturday. Heard a lot of her. She is not upscale but quoted me 1000bht for St. Did not go with her ofcourse but bought her and me some Subwayfood.[/QUOTE]1000 for short time doesn't sound so bad, what does this lady look like?
I have checked out grace hotel and rajah hotel couple of times.
It seems like Russians stay at Rajah hotel and are staged sometime between 7 and 8. About 15 girls, some are 5/6 on my scale. A bit chunkier than Thais of course. They don't approach you but it is upto you to approach them if they smaile. I did not like anyone in particular and few hours later went there 2/3 times. There was none in the restaurant or lobby so I guess it has to be between 7/8.
Please correct me if you have any other info.
Grace hotel has central asians mamushkas. Heavy set with dominant asian features. Lot of them stand on soi3 in front of hotel after 8 PM, others sit in lobby all day. Again did not like anyone in particular. Most were being sought after by Arabs.
Also went to disco in basement of grace hotel around 1 PM. They had about 6-8 Russian and stani girls. Scene was pathetic with guys and girls just shaking their heads and bodies to music still sitting in their chairs and no one dancing. Again the girls smile at you but won't approach you. Unfortunately I did not see any one hitting even 5 on my scale so left after 30 minutes.
Looks like Bangkok have had its day of good looking foreign sex workers.
Russians street worker around Sukhumvit.
Mostly central Asian, usually old and definitely not upscale usually quotes from 1000 to 1500. You can find them sitting at subway or around Grace Hotel in evening.
Russian in Grace Hotel.
Again mostly Uzbek, generally younger and better quality usually quotes from 3000-5000.
Russian in rajah hotel.
No take out option, Good quality and I think rate is around 3000.
CM2 in Novotel Hotel
Very good quality and rate varies from 4000 – 10000 LT.
Bossy.
Open till late and usually the crow from CM2 move there after 2am. Never been there but probably quality and prices same as CM2
[QUOTE=Wanking;1390066]1000 for short time doesn't sound so bad, what does this lady look like?[/QUOTE]There is always a short hair, blonde "Russian" lady sitting in the terrace of Subway at the corner of Sukh and Soi 7/1, the terrace faces the little Soi. Maybe she is Elena. First time we know here price and name: the value of this forum, sooner or later infos pop up
I am not much attracted to test a CIS in Thailand but she seems a nice (as in attitude) lady. She is part of the furniture there.
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1390297]There is always a short hair, blonde "Russian" lady sitting in the terrace of Subway at the corner of Sukh and Soi 7/1, the terrace faces the little Soi. Maybe she is Elena. First time we know here price and name: the value of this forum, sooner or later infos pop up.
I am not much attracted to test a CIS in Thailand but she seems a nice (as in attitude) lady. She is part of the furniture there.[/QUOTE]Yes this is Elena.
[QUOTE=Skogis;1390304]Yes this is Elena.[/QUOTE]The "Russians" I've spoken with wouldn't go to my hotel. Even at an offer of twice her usual rate.
At soi 7 she wanted me to go to her 5 star residence. There were several other 30 or 40ish year old "Russians" sitting at a table with her, but only the blond one spoke to me.
I did her 1 time at her apartment 3-4 years ago for the stated price of 1000ST, her service was good, BBBJ, DATY and full, she isn't a young stunner, but she is very nice to chat with and her service was good so no real complaints.
[QUOTE=Member #3200;1390662]I did her 1 time at her apartment 3-4 years ago for the stated price of 1000ST, her service was good, BBBJ, DATY and full, she isn't a young stunner, but she is very nice to chat with and her service was good so no real complaints.[/QUOTE]Oh well. Finally we digged in and got some report on Elena, the "Subway 7/1 terrace queen" LOL.
Well done #3200 to post this brief feedback.
I am myself not much bothered by the age as service counts more once they lay in bed. There are very decent bodies with no young age fitting the purpose. Where was her apartment?
[QUOTE=Margaya; 1390206]Grace hotel has central asians mamushkas. Heavy set with dominant asian features. Lot of them stand on soi3 in front of hotel after 8 PM, others sit in lobby all day. Again did not like anyone in particular. Most were being sought after by Arabs.
Also went to disco in basement of grace hotel around 1 PM. They had about 6-8 Russian and stani girls. Scene was pathetic with guys and girls just shaking their heads and bodies to music still sitting in their chairs and no one dancing. Again the girls smile at you but won't approach you. Unfortunately I did not see any one hitting even 5 on my scale so left after 30 minutes.[/QUOTE]Some real scary women at that Disco, but it probably got You Tube videographer Khaled77 real excited though
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNkP4ebfaPw[/url]
If I remember correctly, her apartment was on soi 19 (I think) close to honey hotel, not bad little place.
Overall the service was good, she made me feel safe and right at home and it was another check mark on my TDL (non asian in Thailand).
[QUOTE=Margaya; 1390206]I have checked out grace hotel and rajah hotel couple of times.
It seems like Russians stay at Rajah hotel and are staged sometime between 7 and 8. About 15 girls, some are 5/6 on my scale. A bit chunkier than Thais of course. They don't approach you but it is upto you to approach them if they smaile. I did not like anyone in particular and few hours later went there 2/3 times. There was none in the restaurant or lobby so I guess it has to be between 7/8.[/QUOTE]At the Rajah they Turkish and Mongolian girls too as well as CIS Russian. I've done a Russian and two turks. The turkish was was pretty hot but shit service all around. They will charge you 250 for a condom so bring your own. Cost is 2600 including room with no takeout.
You will be led around by a Thai fixer to different rooms and shown the girls and they'll smile at you 'in a sexy manner' to induce you into choosing them but in the room they change it up. Not worth it at all. I don't know if they're trafficked but the whole setup is kinda sad.
I've taken a FL Uzbek from the Grace and that was ok.
Anyone recognise this club? I only know its nearish Bangkok RLD. Cheers.
First prize, one night at Rajah Hotel, second prize. 2 nights at Rajah Hotel.
[QUOTE=Nickc; 1394731]Anyone recognise this club? I only know its nearish Bangkok RLD. Cheers.
First prize, one night at Rajah Hotel, second prize. 2 nights at Rajah Hotel.[/QUOTE]Heard that Rajah Hotel is a bit bad but is it so bad to punish the 2nd runner with two nights?
Thanks for the info. How did you find the Thai fixer? And do you know if one could have fun at Rajah during daytime also or one must visit between 7-8?
Looks like CIS FLs are a better option at grace.
[QUOTE=Pointy Stick; 1393684]At the Rajah they Turkish and Mongolian girls too as well as CIS Russian. I've done a Russian and two turks. The turkish was was pretty hot but shit service all around. They will charge you 250 for a condom so bring your own. Cost is 2600 including room with no takeout.
You will be led around by a Thai fixer to different rooms and shown the girls and they'll smile at you 'in a sexy manner' to induce you into choosing them but in the room they change it up. Not worth it at all. I don't know if they're trafficked but the whole setup is kinda sad.
I've taken a FL Uzbek from the Grace and that was ok.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1394916]Heard that Rajah Hotel is a bit bad but is it so bad to punish the 2nd runner with two nights?[/QUOTE]The Thai girls think it is haunted.
[QUOTE=Margaya; 1394984]Thanks for the info. How did you find the Thai fixer? And do you know if one could have fun at Rajah during daytime also or one must visit between 7-8?
Looks like CIS FLs are a better option at grace.[/QUOTE]Soemetime the guys is sitting outside the Rajah, at the bar opposite, baseball cap. If you look as a punter he will approach you
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1395176]Soemetime the guys is sitting outside the Rajah, at the bar opposite, baseball cap. If you look as a punter he will approach you[/QUOTE]Haha. What is the punter look?
A visible hard on sticking up in your pants and 1k B hanging from your pockets.
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1390297]There is always a short hair, blonde "Russian" lady sitting in the terrace of Subway at the corner of Sukh and Soi 7/1, the terrace faces the little Soi. Maybe she is Elena. First time we know here price and name: the value of this forum, sooner or later infos pop up.
I am not much attracted to test a CIS in Thailand but she seems a nice (as in attitude) lady. She is part of the furniture there.[/QUOTE]I did the short hair blonde two times, in both my two trips to Bangkok. In my first trip I asked her name and she said "Lana". After my first trip I read from ISG that this short hair blonde is Elena. Then during the second trip, I just checked in my hotel, and went to seven eleven to buy a sim card, There I met Lana and asked her, are you elena? She said "no". Then I asked you Sit in subway soi7/1. She said no. Then I said her I'm sorry I misunderstood you as other person, and she left. Then the next day night I saw her sitting in subway and it was the same women there, then I approached her and asked her that I met you today early morning, you said your not elena, to which she replied" I am Lana, not elena", then I asked her do you remember me, we met a month and a half before, she said " there are so many customers, and I don't rememebr U". I think she is lying. Then she took me to the short time room and finished with the deed. She declined to come to my hotel.
[QUOTE=Heatssss522;1400982]I did the short hair blonde two times, in both my two trips to Bangkok. In my first trip I asked her name and she said "Lana". After my first trip I read from ISG that this short hair blonde is Elena. Then during the second trip, I just checked in my hotel, and went to seven eleven to buy a sim card, There I met Lana and asked her, are you elena? She said "no". Then I asked you Sit in subway soi7/1. She said no. Then I said her I'm sorry I misunderstood you as other person, and she left. Then the next day night I saw her sitting in subway and it was the same women there, then I approached her and asked her that I met you today early morning, you said your not elena, to which she replied" I am Lana, not elena", then I asked her do you remember me, we met a month and a half before, she said " there are so many customers, and I don't rememebr U". I think she is lying. Then she took me to the short time room and finished with the deed. She declined to come to my hotel.[/QUOTE]I think the confusion is because there are TWO short blondes that sit at that table outside Subway. Not sure, but I think the taller of the two is Elena, and she is more of a fixture than the shorter, dumpier chick. A bit more attractive as well, though ain't neither one of them going to be the next Miss World.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1395295]Haha. What is the punter look?
A visible hard on sticking up in your pants and 1k B hanging from your pockets.[/QUOTE]And mouthwathering dripping from his mouth. LOL
[QUOTE=Catbird;1401268]I think the confusion is because there are TWO short blondes that sit at that table outside Subway. Not sure, but I think the taller of the two is Elena, and she is more of a fixture than the shorter, dumpier chick. A bit more attractive as well, though ain't neither one of them going to be the next Miss World.[/QUOTE]Correct! I think Elena is the slimmer of the two."Elena" seems more a permanent fixture. The other more occasional (or more busy? LOL)
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1401480]Correct! I think Elena is the slimmer of the two."Elena" seems more a permanent fixture. The other more occasional (or more busy? LOL)[/QUOTE]Righto. I think we got that sorted out.
[QUOTE=Catbird;1401516]Righto. I think we got that sorted out.[/QUOTE]Lana said that she is from Moscow. And I see her almost everytime sitting in subway.
[QUOTE=Heatssss522;1400982]I did the short hair blonde two times, in both my two trips to Bangkok. In my first trip I asked her name and she said "Lana". After my first trip I read from ISG that this short hair blonde is Elena. Then during the second trip, I just checked in my hotel, and went to seven eleven to buy a sim card, There I met Lana and asked her, are you elena? She said "no". Then I asked you Sit in subway soi7/1. She said no. Then I said her I'm sorry I misunderstood you as other person, and she left. Then the next day night I saw her sitting in subway and it was the same women there, then I approached her and asked her that I met you today early morning, you said your not elena, to which she replied" I am Lana, not elena", then I asked her do you remember me, we met a month and a half before, she said " there are so many customers, and I don't rememebr U". I think she is lying. Then she took me to the short time room and finished with the deed. She declined to come to my hotel.[/QUOTE]Lena, Elena, Alona, Alena, all mean the same, but russians being stuck up arrogant bitches will behave like this. I know because I was married to one.
[QUOTE=How14;1401588]Lena, Elena, Alona, Alena, all mean the same, but russians being stuck up arrogant bitches will behave like this. I know because I was married to one.[/QUOTE]You forgot Alina. LOL.
Anyhow I think that the "bad" Elena is not the one that sits most of the time at Subway.
If you see below that Elena seems ok, There is another one, as per reports, a bit more chubby, which name sounds similar, also at Subway, not as much as the "good one"
The one referred negatively might not have ever been at Subway. So she must be another one.
True that the Russian (WG in general, especially when abroad) do not have the best reputation, although reports from Dubai still mentions some good ones.
If one wants to see what the Rajah hotel market offers (between soi 2 and 4) in terms of russians without going up to the room, he has to be patient and catch the girls out of the lobby in their smoking break. Sometime they also venture to the nearby 7-11
I've walked by Subway a few times over the past several days and no sign of the Russian girl (s). Maybe I just missed them, or maybe they are wiser than we are and vacated broiling BKK for a while. Forecast for 106 on Sunday.
[QUOTE=NeverGetsOld;1414120]Russian with big naturals (face not important) or Russian with small naturals (pretty model face) No bolt ons and definitely no trolls. Any providers or helping hands?[/QUOTE]What are you, ordering a custom-made take-out pizza?
Most help you'll get here is being pointed in the general direction of places where Russian or other foreign prostitutes operate. Go there (Rajah, Grace, CM2 or wherever) and look for yourself.
It's silly to think a fellow member will somehow deliver you an exact girl (or a pair) that you want.
[QUOTE=Catbird;1406350]I've walked by Subway a few times over the past several days and no sign of the Russian girl (s). Maybe I just missed them, or maybe they are wiser than we are and vacated broiling BKK for a while. Forecast for 106 on Sunday.[/QUOTE]Yep, MIA (missing in action) , mist likely stayed away from unwanted Songkran showers.
[QUOTE=Catbird;1406350]I've walked by Subway a few times over the past several days and no sign of the Russian girl (s). Maybe I just missed them, or maybe they are wiser than we are and vacated broiling BKK for a while. Forecast for 106 on Sunday.[/QUOTE]I believe that they are around, but I go past their about 6 times a day when in town and have never seen them either.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp; 1414239]What are you, ordering a custom-made take-out pizza?
Most help you'll get here is being pointed in the general direction of places where Russian or other foreign prostitutes operate. Go there (Rajah, Grace, CM2 or wherever) and look for yourself.
It's silly to think a fellow member will somehow deliver you an exact girl (or a pair) that you want.[/QUOTE]Not so silly. Little scared of the quality of street walkers; anything without needle marks? All the Russian escorts I see in Bangkok have bad fake tits.
Anything decent in this arena.
There stomping grand is lower sukhumvit, around 2am right?
I've seen about 5-7 of them walking around off hours and wasn't impressed with their bodies.
Anything decent on the late night? Different spots they hang?
Coming from Philly, I've fucked plenty of black chicks, even lost my virginity to one, but never straight out the Bush but would like to.
[QUOTE=NeverGetsOld;1420039]Anything decent in this arena.There stomping grand is lower sukhumvit, around 2am right? I've seen about 5-7 of them walking around off hours and wasn't impressed with their bodies.Anything decent on the late night? Different spots they hang? Coming from Philly, I've fucked plenty of black chicks, even lost my virginity to one, but never straight out the Bush but would like to.[/QUOTE]There is a couple of them who have decent bodies, nevertheless, their fame and reputation is such that, even if I'd be interested to try an african in Thailand, I would not even dare or bother to ask for their pricing.
[QUOTE=NeverGetsOld;1420039]Coming from Philly, I've fucked plenty of black chicks, even lost my virginity to one, but never straight out the Bush but would like to.[/QUOTE]There are spots in Africa where you literally get them out of the Bush, why not consider a tremendous experience on the African continent, I'm born and raised on African tang, had so much I have lost count. Take your pick of countries, do your homework and go. Prices quoted on this forum are far above what you can actually acquire of hot young bodied, willing and horny African women.
I have only ever tapped one African in Bangkok, have not been tempted again. As mentioned, the pickings are dire and off putting on Sukhumvit, and being from Africa I just will not bother with African tang on the streets of Bangkok, rather leave that for my next journey home to the land of plenty, cheap, and available hot black babes.
I live in London and do not even bother here either.
Countries of choice are plentiful. Kenya is becoming ruined, look to Uganda. Ghana was too expensive as a whole when I was there. Zambia is real friendly and comparatively safe. Zimbabwe would be good, even now, I'm tempted before it opens up becoming too expensive, you can look to Mozambique and South Africa. There are ares of SA which are safer than western cities and you can get some cheap tang if you are patient, hunt well. Prices as low as R150, $17 ST if you negotiate sensibly. I have had African honey for as little as R50.
LOL, maybe I lit a fire in you. Hope so.
[QUOTE=Noddy;1420294]LOL, maybe I lit a fire in you. Hope so.[/QUOTE]Great post! Yes, you sure did and won't even bother looking here. That sounds like so much funnnnnn. I was just looking into Morocco yesterday and thought Egypt or South Africa might be a good destination but never considered the rest of Africa. I am so ignorant of the continent and that needs to change. All I know is that I love movie Hotel Rwanda.
[QUOTE=NeverGetsOld;1414448]Not so silly. Little scared of the quality of street walkers; anything without needle marks? All the Russian escorts I see in Bangkok have bad fake tits.[/QUOTE]"Russian" working girls in Bangkok are mostly Central Asians (Uzbek, Kazakh etc) , and tend to be the rejects who can't make it any longer in prime-time hooker spots (Dubai, Hong Kong etc.) Quality is mostly abysmal, although there are _occasionally_ a few cuties at Rajah (for 2600 / pop) and CM2 (for a lot of money). They're all (even the younger ones) hardened hookers who have been at the sex track for quite long, you won't find any beginners / amateurs.
[QUOTE=NeverGetsOld; 1421855]That's not to appealing to me. Going to guess, Pattaya or maybe Phuket better for Russian vagina. Before leaving Philadelphia, I met a bunch in the club scene. My last American rendevouz was dinner & drinks with hot girl from country of Georgia who I got number from but she didn't let me in at the end of the night. Fucking atrocious. Basically just want some nice white pussy under 3000 baht every couple months to break up the monotony of a hot Asian chicks blowing me.
Geez the weez. 3rd world problems. I tell ya. Or is Thailand 2nd world country now.[/QUOTE]Try CM2 but in my last trip in the last week of March quality was really low.
I manage to get a street walker in from of Grace Hotel. She was from St Petersburg (what she told me). Quality was not very good 5/10 but service was excellent. She charged BHT 2000 ST.
Central Asians / Russians inside Grace are expensive BHT 4000+
You may get good quality Russian in Rajah hotel. I think going rate is BHT 2600 but you cannot take her out
[QUOTE=NeverGetsOld;1421855]Basically just want some nice white pussy under 3000 baht every couple months to break up the monotony of a hot Asian chicks blowing me.[/QUOTE]TGs & other Asians come in white. For example:
[url]http://th.lifestyleasia.com/en/event-galleries/miss-grand-thailand-2013[/url]
[QUOTE=NeverGetsOld;1421855]Geez the weez. 3rd world problems. I tell ya. Or is Thailand 2nd world country now.[/QUOTE]I'd consider the NEP area of Bangkok as first world.
[QUOTE=Global Surfer; 1422216]Try CM2 but in my last trip in the last week of March quality was really low. I manage to get a street walker in from of Grace Hotel. She was from St Petersburg (what she told me). Quality was not very good 5/10 but service was excellent. She charged BHT 2000 ST. Central Asians / Russians inside Grace are expensive BHT 4000+
You may get good quality Russian in Rajah hotel. I think going rate is BHT 2600 but you cannot take her out[/QUOTE]And last but not least. Elena the "non chubby" blonde (there is sometime another one who is a bit more chubby, hence the detail) sitting at the terrace of Subaway Soi 7/1, reported 1000b, ST at her place and service quite decent.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1422360]And last but not least. Elena the "non chubby" blonde (there is sometime another one who is a bit more chubby, hence the detail) sitting at the terrace of Subaway Soi 7/1, reported 1000b, ST at her place and service quite decent.[/QUOTE]Damn it I can not get Subway Elena (the slim one with short blonde hair) out of my head. I have pretty much decided to do her and check out her A+ level the 30 of May when I return into BKK. Did you try her yourself Bionic?
[QUOTE=Skogis;1422443]Damn it I can not get Subway Elena (the slim one with short blonde hair) out of my head. I have pretty much decided to do her and check out her A+ level the 30 of May when I return into BKK. Did you try her yourself Bionic?[/QUOTE]Nope. Had her I the agenda but she wss not around when I was there last time.
Shee seems cool and off the usual format of CSI being greedy and rushy. There was a report somewhere postiive about her. Maybe a few pages below
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1422447]Nope. Had her I the agenda but she wss not around when I was there last time.
Shee seems cool and off the usual format of CSI being greedy and rushy. There was a report somewhere postiive about her. Maybe a few pages below[/QUOTE]I tried Elena two years back. She is a MILF but she was great GFE and a change from the Thai routine. She can also have a good discussion.
That day was as I remember 2nd of July 2011. It was the pre Election Day. On that day, sale of alcohol was prohibited and all Gogos were closed. It was also raining crazy. I kept on cruising Walking street to find any good catch. However, it was hopeless, talent was very low. It seems the girls were getting ready to vote.
Then I found a Turkish cafe with hookah towards the end of Walking street where I sat to get my Shisha. Leena was the only girl there sitting close to me. As it was my first visit to Pattaya, I was not sure that she was a WG. Then, I noticed that she was very much known to the staff cafe which was an indication that she is. I moved my chair next to her and started to strike a conversation with her. In the same time I was inspecting her body and checking whether there is any signs of drugs.
She offered to come with me for 1000b which was a surprise to me as she looked much hotter than the gogo bars who charges 2 and 3k. Off we went. But she said that she has to find a drink before hitting the room which we couldn't buy even from 7/11. So I had to offer her Heineken from my mini bar. She said that if there is no Booz, she simply cannot work. After drinking couple of Heinekens, she was ready for Junior.
Experience was good. However, I felt that she is the type that falls in love with any nice guy which is not CIS attitude. She wanted to sleep over but I told her that I am travelling next day to Bangkok. I still got her digits which she gave to me so that I would call her when back in town. I will try calling her during my trip next month.
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1422447]Nope. Had her I the agenda but she wss not around when I was there last time.
Shee seems cool and off the usual format of CSI being greedy and rushy. There was a report somewhere postiive about her. Maybe a few pages below[/QUOTE]I tried Elena two years back. She is a MILF but she was great GFE and a change from the Thai routine. She can also have a good discussion.
That day was as I remember 2nd of July 2011. It was the pre Election Day. On that day, sale of alcohol was prohibited and all Gogos were closed. It was also raining crazy. I kept on cruising Walking street to find any good catch. However, it was hopeless, talent was very low. It seems the girls were getting ready to vote.
Then I found a Turkish cafe with hookah towards the end of Walking street where I sat to get my Shisha. Leena was the only girl there sitting close to me. As it was my first visit to Pattaya, I was not sure that she was a WG. Then, I noticed that she was very much known to the staff cafe which was an indication that she is. I moved my chair next to her and started to strike a conversation with her. In the same time I was inspecting her body and checking whether there is any signs of drugs.
She offered to come with me for 1000b which was a surprise to me as she looked much hotter than the gogo bars who charges 2 and 3k. Off we went. But she said that she has to find a drink before hitting the room which we couldn't buy even from 7/11. So I had to offer her Heineken from my mini bar. She said that if there is no Booz, she simply cannot work. After drinking couple of Heinekens, she was ready for Junior.
Experience was good. However, I felt that she is the type that falls in love with any nice guy which is not CIS attitude. She wanted to sleep over but I told her that I am travelling next day to Bangkok. I still got her digits which she gave to me so that I would call her when back in town. I will try calling her during my trip next month.
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1422447]Nope. Had her I the agenda but she wss not around when I was there last time.
Shee seems cool and off the usual format of CSI being greedy and rushy. There was a report somewhere postiive about her. Maybe a few pages below[/QUOTE]I think both of them are post menopausal. In my previous visit in 2011, I met one dyed blond Uzbek who was bit younger.
One of them introduces herself as gynaecologist from Ukraine. I think she probably was midwife or CNS. I think in 2009 there was another girl half Ukrainian half Korean (North) with her. I used her services for 1000 ST. I would rate her services 6/10. She was cooperative but not enthusiastic.
[QUOTE=Global Surfer;1422567]I think both of them are post menopausal.[/QUOTE]Seems on her late 40's to me, just by looking. Thanks for the additional info
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1422764]Seems on her late 40's to me, just by looking. Thanks for the additional info[/QUOTE]Have you ever tried Grace Hotel coffee shop? You can usually find Uzbeks. In my previous visits, I have even seen Turks and even one Columbian. The only trouble is that the place is full of super rich Arabs and you will have to pay the premium. In some restaurants between Grace and Sukhumvit you can even find Arabs (probably Morocco or Palestinian). There you can get away with BHT 1500/2000 ST. I have seen only two and both of them were bit too heavy.
[QUOTE=NeverGetsOld; 1422681]Good suggestion. Maybe I'll just bar fine 1 of those jap looking girls once in a blue moon and call it a day.
This 9. 5 22 why / o girl I'm fucking is sexier then maybe all those Miss Grand girls.
What kind of half a man is scared of a little bit of pigment.
Umm lady boys, cracked streets, public drunkenness, knock off items and 4000 cum receptacles is 1st world?[/QUOTE]You can find things like that and far worse in any first world country. What the NEP area has & you won't find in a 3rd world nation is the density of fine hotels, large supermarkets, a world class hospital, a 1st world skytain which in minutes will take you to a number of the world's best malls, etc. Apparently you can't get even one of those items, let alone the whole package, in the Geylang monger area of Singapore.
As far as white skinned girls in BKK goes, there are plenty of TGs in the massage places for your price, more or less. Some TGs look more farang than Asian & in some cases they are half & half. But without any pics it can be difficult to gauge what you're looking for. Your 9. 5 will be some other guys 3. 0. Personally I'd prefer some of the petite HKG whities at sex 141 dot com, some of whom go for a lot less than 3000 baht, over the Thai Miss Grands. If hotels were not so expensive in HKG, I might be there now instead of BKK.
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[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1422995]You can find things like that and far worse in any first world country. What the NEP area has & you won't find in a 3rd world nation is the density of fine hotels, large supermarkets, a world class hospital, a 1st world skytain which in minutes will take you to a number of the world's best malls, etc. Apparently you can't get even one of those items, let alone the whole package, in the Geylang monger area of Singapore.
As far as white skinned girls in BKK goes, there are plenty of TGs in the massage places for your price, more or less. Some TGs look more farang than Asian & in some cases they are half & half. But without any pics it can be difficult to gauge what you're looking for. Your 9. 5 will be some other guys 3. 0. Personally I'd prefer some of the petite HKG whities at sex 141 dot com, some of whom go for a lot less than 3000 baht, over the Thai Miss Grands. If hotels were not so expensive in HKG, I might be there now instead of BKK.[/QUOTE]Whoa I owe you for the website hook up. Those HKG whities are perfect 10s. Do make my girl look like an 7 or 8. Have a trip paid for in Hong Kong in 4 1/2 months and will have 1 of them waiting in my hotel room on arrival.
[QUOTE=Skogis;1422443]Damn it I can not get Subway Elena (the slim one with short blonde hair) out of my head. I have pretty much decided to do her and check out her A+ level the 30 of May when I return into BKK. Did you try her yourself Bionic?[/QUOTE]I saw her the other day walking past her Subway hangout. First time I'd seen her in more than a month. Daylight does not do her any favors.
[QUOTE=Catbird;1427504]I saw her the other day walking past her Subway hangout. First time I'd seen her in more than a month. Daylight does not do her any favors.[/QUOTE]Ok I better wait until daylight dims then. LOL
[QUOTE=Harold444;1427512]My hi so sources told me Subway no longer wants hookers lounging on their property. They did do quite a costly renpvation recently.[/QUOTE]The dumpier Ruskie was sitting in her usual chair outside Subway last night.
Couple of Blondes in the middle of this video [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1veT29iT8Ak[/url]
Maybe they are Ruski hookers?
The night I visited in Jan 2010 there were many good looking Blonde hookers but expensive. I didn't partake but went back to the Radja and did a nice blonde there for 2600. Highlight was she didn't wash her pussy and it smelt real nice!
[QUOTE=Member #3200;1352103]I applaude Thai LE trying to get rid of as many (hopefully all) of the Africans in BKK.[/QUOTE]Shame their efforts don't extend to some of the mongers too.
[QUOTE=Wanking;1431534].Highlight was she didn't wash her pussy and it smelt real nice![/QUOTE][url]Eewwww.[/url] I guess there are all kinds of kinks around.
[QUOTE=Duniawala; 1431780][url]Eewwww.[/url]
I guess there are all kinds of kinks around.[/QUOTE]No kink, just biology; called pheromones.
Was just watching some of Buck Wilds Vids on Youtube. He was talking in this video about the beach road ladies and was following what he called a "European working girl"
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gsAPkFHt88[/url]
We don't see her face but she certainly looks like a hoor from behind. Where was she walking to I wonder?
[QUOTE=Wanking;1431889]Was just watching some of Buck Wilds Vids on Youtube. He was talking in this video about the beach road ladies and was following what he called a "European working girl"[/QUOTE]Without seeing her face, could easily be a Thai girl or ladyboy with blond-dyed hair. Or a Russian tourist, they're know to dress inappropriately.
There are some central-Asian hookers around Pattaya (including on Beach Road) , but they wouldn't dress quite like that or be that young.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp; 1432062]Without seeing her face, could easily be a Thai girl or ladyboy with blond-dyed hair. Or a Russian tourist, they're know to dress inappropriately.
There are some central-Asian hookers around Pattaya (including on Beach Road) , but they wouldn't dress quite like that or be that young.[/QUOTE]You could have a nasty surprise once you take off the pants / skirt. As I saw many of thai "workers" are ladyboys. But hey if you don't mind a huge sausage down your ass, I guess is ok.
[QUOTE=Wanking;1431889]We don't see her face but she certainly looks like a hoor from behind. Where was she walking to I wonder?[/QUOTE]She looked like she was on a mission. Got that little red dress on. Striding purposefully ahead and not looking round even though he passed her a couple of times with a video camera in his hand.
Now how do you figure that. He was fiddling with the video camera, adjusting the focus, doing commentary, filming different things, even turning round and filming across the street a few times but yet he still caught up with her and passed her at least twice.
I was hoping that he would have lifted her little red skirt with his free hand and razzed her arse just to get her to look round at least once.
I've seen a few of his videos. He barfained an entire bar in Philippines for him and his friends once. 25+ girls for a crazy orgy. I don't know why anyone would pay him though. His videos are informative.
[QUOTE=Myrrh; 1432671]She looked like she was on a mission. Got that little red dress on. Striding purposefully ahead and not looking round even though he passed her a couple of times with a video camera in his hand.
Now how do you figure that. He was fiddling with the video camera, adjusting the focus, doing commentary, filming different things, even turning round and filming across the street a few times but yet he still caught up with her and passed her at least twice.
I was hoping that he would have lifted her little red skirt with his free hand and razzed her arse just to get her to look round at least once.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Catbird;1429368]The dumpier Ruskie was sitting in her usual chair outside Subway last night.[/QUOTE]As people for some reason care about this I can report that both russians have been camping all day outside subway. I thought I had seen the dumpy ruskie before but I was mistaken. There is an even dumpier companion that sits further towards the main road, the power of NOPE was almost to strong to enter the soi when they are both there. They scream "babyyyyy I am Russian babbyyy where you gooo" like it's a good thing.
[QUOTE=Gorgon;1432881]. They scream "babyyyyy I am Russian babbyyy where you gooo" like it's a good thing.[/QUOTE]For some it seems.
Lots of questions here how to find a Russian, a Jamaican, a Brazilian or whatever in LOS.
Some can't travel to those counties and aware of the strong mongering scene in BKK, they want to try that opportunity.
I once had a Russian and a nigerian (separately) in Rio spa in Macau. A jamaican in OT, Singapore, and a tanzanian in KL.
It was a jibe at their looks. At least go to some of the other known places and pick up a gal that doesn't look like 500b would be overpriced. I my self have been tempted by some of the africans but I hear so much rumors about them so I dare not. Variety is nice.
Any new reports about this foreign workers. Especiallu usbek / ex USSR girls?
[QUOTE=Hbengkok;1440600]Any new reports about this foreign workers. Especiallu usbek / ex USSR girls?[/QUOTE]If I try to be modest many "stanis" and some from south america (Colombia) was to be had in CM2 / novotel. 4/5k baht. But maby negotiable I don't know as I did not check.
I went to the Rajah Hotel as mentioned in the forums to check out the talent.
Even though white girls are not to my liking, went there just for the heck of it as I was in the neighborhood that night.
It was absolutely dismal.
Just MHO though
Wow and wow what a stunner. Drove her own car (very drunk so driving skills soso). She did not claim money after deed done but I felt obligated to give her a nice 5k comp. Maby a tad on the high side but she was a squirter so money well diserved. She was ejaculating many times and directed her "water" towards my chest. Feel happy pappy now.
[QUOTE=Skogis;1441105]Wow and wow what a stunner. Drove her own car (very drunk so driving skills soso). She did not claim money after deed done but I felt obligated to give her a nice 5k comp. Maby a tad on the high side but she was a squirter so money well diserved. She was ejaculating many times and directed her "water" towards my chest. Feel happy pappy now.[/QUOTE]Regardless she was "free" (if we can say that so) , was she a WG? Some girls are smart not asking for money, aware handsome men will be nice to them anyhow, and maybe nicer than her asking for a fee. Can't judge the 5k reward, but as you are happy, that is what counts. Forget price police.
These are pics I took about 18 months ago of Angel from Sudan. I met her in a beer bar on WS. NOT the no-name bar diagonally across the street from FLB. It was the Lucky Star beer bar, which is a bit closer to Beach Road. I knew one of the girls at that bar and had dropped by to see her. Angel just started chatting with me, she didn't seem to be hunting for customers, only having a drink and checking her cell phone.
It was around Christmas and I gave her a small teddy bear with a candy cane. She seemed very moved by that. She said it was the first time anyone had ever given her a Christmas present. Of course, that could have a lot to do with her being Muslim, but she appeared to be confounded by the fact that she got a gift, however small, without the giver wanting anything in return. She did give a very sweet kiss on the cheek.
I have to say straight up that black girls aren't my thing. If I'd have been interested in ebony princesses, there were plenty available when I lived in NYC. And if you crossed the Hudson River and drove about 15 minutes into Newark, NJ, you felt like Santa Claus no matter what time of year it was. Everywhere you looked, you couldn't help thinking,"Ho ho ho."
Trafficked African hookers definitely aren't my thing, but I liked talking to Angel and met her several times after that just to chat. She was part of a small group of women who were moved around Asia by an Africa-based gang. She had a very tough life. If her "handler," I. E. Pimp, had known she was telling me about certain things, he would have chopped her into pieces and fed the parts to a crocodile. That's why I waited so long to post the pics. She and her pimp will have been long gone by now.
I had told her that if she felt like talking, she was welcome to call me. I also made clear I wasn't interested in her services. Sometimes we chatted on the phone, but mostly I met her in a restaurant or bar away from WS for face-to-face conversation. I bought her a few meals and some drinks, but never gave her any money. Because I asked so many questions about the traffickers, she began to suspect I was a cop or someone else official and stopped calling.
She did help me keep things in perspective. Trafficking is a very nasty operation and the only way we to hurt it as tourists / expats is to avoid trafficked women. With very, very few exceptions. 100% of the foreign women involved in P4P in Thailand are trafficked and it's best to stick with Thais or non-working tourist women.
I remember once, too, when she got a series of calls on her cell phone and I remarked,"You have a lot of friends." She answered, rather regretfully,"Not friends. Customers."
Evil
[QUOTE=Evil Penivel;1445015]I have to say straight up that black girls aren't my thing.[/QUOTE]SHE has a lot of mileage! The booze and cigs and lifestyle have taken it's toll. Nothing more sad than an aged hooker- Black, White or whatever.
I have seen only one African I wanted in PTY, (they have been bringing in 3rd team skanks) , but unfortunately the GF was sitting next to me when she walked by.
[QUOTE=Evil Penivel; 1445015]These are pics I took about 18 months ago of Angel from Sudan. I met her in a beer bar on WS. NOT the no-name bar diagonally across the street from FLB. It was the Lucky Star beer bar, which is a bit closer to Beach Road. I knew one of the girls at that bar and had dropped by to see her. Angel just started chatting with me, she didn't seem to be hunting for customers, only having a drink and checking her cell phone.
She did help me keep things in perspective. Trafficking is a very nasty operation and the only way we to hurt it as tourists / expats is to avoid trafficked women. With very, very few exceptions. 100% of the foreign women involved in P4P in Thailand are trafficked and it's best to stick with Thais or non-working tourist women.
Evil[/QUOTE]Worth while reading and reflecting on this. About the same time you took these photos I did ST with a girl from one of the NEP gogos. She took me to the room she said she lived in at the nearby ST hotel; and it did look like someone with a few sparse possessions lived there. She told me she was Cambodian (she certainly looked it) and couldn't leave NEP. She also told me about the "liberties" the bar's manager and some employees took with her. I have no way of corroborating her story, but out of curiosity I offered her double the rate for LT at my hotel to which she replied,"can't leave."
Was stralling the streets last night in lower Sukhumvit and decided to pop in to say hello the the Dr BJ. As usual Elena was sitting by her officedesk outside Subway. As usual she did not recognize me so everytime I introduce myself. This time she seemed more desperate and did not have time for any chit chats. She interrupted me while I was about to ask her if she wanted a baguette by offering ST / 1K, including everything, back at her place in Soi 22 (I think she said). Without me beeing able to respond she negotiated on her own the price down to 700bht (probably shows she did not finish any economical edu). I politely declined, thanked her for her kind offer and off I went.
A couple of hours later on my way back from the Doc, Elena once again shouted at me. As usual she did not recognize me and once again what written above happened (ex me offering her a baguette). The same desperate look in her eye. For fun I just asked if 500bht was possible and she happily nodded. But as usual, even if I actualy sometimes seriously considered taking her for a spin, I declined her kind offer.
So if some fellow members happens to be in BKK and want some ruskie action. Run down to Subway there is a needing siberian woman with short blonde hair sitting and waiting for some real studs and at cheap price as well. Not the best short time memory but still doable (I would humbly rate her 5/6 prob 6 because of rather well developed boobies).
Saw this Blonde WG sitting in front of Subway two days ago. I saw the infamous Elena some time ago and if my memory serves me right this lady does not look like her or maybe she does, I don't remember her that well. This woman told me she is from Ukraine and used another name but (not Elena). She offered her services for 1000b for FS and massage. I did not take her up and started to walk away so she asked me how much, I waved her off but know that you can negotiate with her. If you like this type of woman, go to Soi 7-1 and get her in between her servicing customers. Pic is not the best quality as I took this with my phone.
[QUOTE=Skogis;1451208]As usual she did not recognize me so everytime I introduce myself___She interrupted me while I was about to ask her if she wanted a baguette by offering ST / 1K, including everything[/QUOTE]She may have been confused by your offer to buy her a baguette. In many parts of the world, offering to buy a woman a long hard piece of bread is a euphemism. I love your report though. She never recognizes you!
I know that GF hotels allows sex workers to go with you to your room. But is ok with non-thais as well? I mean, they have to show their ID right?
I like the idea to take an african girl to my room, but I don't like the idea of getting into trouble.
[QUOTE=Awesome Man; 1454980]I know that GF hotels allows sex workers to go with you to your room. But is ok with non-thais as well? I mean, they have to show their I'd right?
I like the idea to take an african girl to my room, but I don't like the idea of getting into trouble.[/QUOTE]I took an Uzbek hooker back to the Dynasty in Soi 4. No problems.
[QUOTE=Awesome Man; 1454980]I know that GF hotels allows sex workers to go with you to your room. But is ok with non-thais as well? I mean, they have to show their I'd right?
I like the idea to take an african girl to my room, but I don't like the idea of getting into trouble.[/QUOTE]The hotel I'd check routine is for YOUR protection, mostly. Africans do have passports (police checks them fairly often) , so you can ask her to show that. In mid-range establishments, you can usually ask them to skip the I'd check (just tell them it's OK not to check). Or if they insist, you can use a ST hotel (which is safer anyway).
[QUOTE=Awesome Man; 1454980]I know that GF hotels allows sex workers to go with you to your room. But is ok with non-thais as well? I mean, they have to show their I'd right?
I like the idea to take an african girl to my room, but I don't like the idea of getting into trouble.[/QUOTE]Them being from Africa I'd be much more concerned about their HIV than their I. D.
Some African countries have like a 20 percent HIV rate, don't they? So for a prostitute it would be what, closer to 80 percent?
[QUOTE=Awesome Man; 1454980]I know that GF hotels allows sex workers to go with you to your room. But is ok with non-thais as well? I mean, they have to show their I'd right?
I like the idea to take an african girl to my room, but I don't like the idea of getting into trouble.[/QUOTE]I have broudt Russian, Uzbek, Thai and African (Senegal) to Dynaysty Grande without any problem.
I have heard that some hotels charge for Foreign Workers including Nana Hotel. However, I was unable to confirm that
[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1455916]Them being from Africa I'd be much more concerned about their HIV than their I. D.
Some African countries have like a 20 percent HIV rate, don't they? So for a prostitute it would be what, closer to 80 percent?[/QUOTE]Haha you are unbelievable negative to all facts of life and afraid of everything. You are an halfemptyglass kind of guy but be careful so the glass don't break. Wear your thick kevlarglowes just in case. LOL
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1455395]The hotel I'd check routine is for YOUR protection, mostly. Africans do have passports (police checks them fairly often) , so you can ask her to show that. In mid-range establishments, you can usually ask them to skip the I'd check (just tell them it's OK not to check). Or if they insist, you can use a ST hotel (which is safer anyway).[/QUOTE]Thank's for your reply. I 've never had a black woman yet, so maybe I'll give it a try when I come to Bangkok.
How about the prices then? Same price for ST as for The thai freelancers?
[QUOTE=Awesome Man;1457197]How about the prices then? Same price for ST as for The thai freelancers?[/QUOTE]Affirmative. Negotiate, you may get her down to 800b.
[QUOTE=Global Surfer;1457115]I have heard that some hotels charge for Foreign Workers including Nana Hotel. However, I was unable to confirm that[/QUOTE]I had no problems taking foreign girls to my room at Nana, no extra charge as your room will be a double.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1455916]Them being from Africa I'd be much more concerned about their HIV than their I. D.
Some African countries have like a 20 percent HIV rate, don't they? So for a prostitute it would be what, closer to 80 percent?[/QUOTE]Highly dubious and misleading stats yet again by this unfortunate member, he cleverly veils this as a question. Above all, some of my fellow Africans would be appalled at his racist slant. I only know of one African in my life who has HIV / AIDS and he was gay, I believe he got the dreadful disease upon his visit to the good old USA.
Do not trust statistics put forward by most organizations.
[QUOTE=Awesome Man; 1454980]I know that GF hotels allows sex workers to go with you to your room. But is ok with non-thais as well? I mean, they have to show their I'd right?
I like the idea to take an african girl to my room, but I don't like the idea of getting into trouble.[/QUOTE]No trouble Sir, if you desire it is worth the trouble. I and many others have had no problems to date, none that I have read of. The girls all carry the necessary I'd document.
FWIW, I brought an African SW into the J. W. Marriott on my last trip. No problem at all.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1455916]Them being from Africa I'd be much more concerned about their HIV than their I. D.[/QUOTE]When I meet a hot Kenyan babe, am I suddenly think about HIV? Hell no. I am thinking about those luscious lips, swollen nipples, big conical tits, etc. Wear a condom and sleep easy.
[QUOTE=Awesome Man;1457197]Thank's for your reply. I 've never had a black woman yet, so maybe I'll give it a try when I come to Bangkok.[/QUOTE]Bangkok is not necessarily providing the very best of black women. So I wonder why you choose Thailand to try them. If you were a black girl lover, then no problem. If you have no better place to find them, then okay I have done many black girls, but never in Bangkok. My home country, and certain countries in Europe are good hunting grounds (higher quality expected) , as well as South America, West Indies, and Africa itself. So I suggest don't go out of your way to make it a black girl, but simply choose the best available girl at the time, regardless of the colour.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1457426]When I meet a hot Kenyan babe, am I suddenly think about HIV? Hell no. I am thinking about those luscious lips, swollen nipples, big conical tits, etc. Wear a condom and sleep easy.[/QUOTE]The only BKK Africans I've seen personally or ever heard anyone refer to, in reading this & other forums since 2007, are those street walkers on lower sukhumvit near NEP. Do you pick them up there?
I'm not interested in them because, one, they're not attractive, two, they're pimped, and three, the HIV factor. I do look, that is, think about things like that, before I leap. What you describe is called thinking with the little head. BTW, the HIV factor is one reason why I'd prefer to settle in BKK rather than, say, cheaper Indonesia.
"Populations in Kenya especially at risk include injecting drug users and people in prostitution, whose prevalence rates are estimated at 53 percent and 27 percent, respectively. [1]"
"Although Sengal is a very poor country, it has maintained a low HIV prevalence. With a 'concentrated' epidemic, the general population in Senegal has remained relatively free of AIDS, though vulnerable populations have significantly higher prevalence; among commercial sex workers, for example, prevalence is around 17 percent [1]"
That's like 10X higher than Thailand. IOW it represents the difference between wearing a condom & not wearing one. Or, to put it another way, when you bang one of those Africans with a condom, you might as well be doing a TG without one. It's the same risk. And those aren't even the worst countries in Africa for HIV.
Of course it makes sense to do Thai women in Thailand, and African women in Africa. But I like Thailand for a lot of reasons, and thee fact that I feel safe picking up girls in Thailand is one of them. And that beeing so easy and almodt without hassle is another one.
I don't get laid very often back home, so I'd like to try as many different cookies as possible.
An interesting point I would like to make is the fact that African ladies plying their trade in Pattaya are charging somewhat more for their services than are the African ladies in Bangkok. Pattaya being in the region of 2000b, the last time I asked some months back, not on my just returned trip, as I did not approach any black girls this time round. Weather or not one were to negotiate the price down is questionable. On my recent trip, the Pattaya Africans were somewhat doable, pretty, sexy and slim, I saw one punter with a black lady for several days. The girls had the look of being from Sudan, Kenyan region, by my judgement. I did not speak to them.
From what I saw from my two days in Bangkok, African ladies I saw were just dreadful, little wonder one is able to reduce them to 800b ST. I have mentioned before, it is preferable to do a trip to the African continent in my somewhat vast experience having been born and raised there. I certainly was privileged and had an awesome experience in hindsight, literally being schooled by the dark darlings, I have had many.
Those of you seeking to do black ladies in Thailand, I would suggest trying your luck with the current lot in Pattaya. The Bangkok girls are just awful, unless the pretty ones took a few nights off while I was there LOL. Put your negotiating skills into practice, perhaps the price will be more favourable in Pattaya.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1457457]The only BKK Africans I've seen personally or ever heard anyone refer to, in reading this & other forums since 2007, are those street walkers on lower sukhumvit near NEP. Do you pick them up there?[/QUOTE]I already mentioned I haven't done any black girls at all in BKK. Extremely rare for me to take a street walker at all, unless something amazing. I recall being very tempted by one outside my Hotel a few years back.
[QUOTE=Noddy;1457360]Do not trust statistics put forward by most organizations.[/QUOTE]It is a fact there is a high degree of HIV in Africa. That hits mostly the villages in the bushes, where there is no prostituion but can well happen there is a high degree of promiscuity, poor health conditions, poor economy and so on.
Lots of HIV is transmitted by blood from mother to child.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1457431]Bangkok is not necessarily providing the very best of black women. So I wonder why you choose Thailand to try them. If you were a black girl lover, then no problem.[/QUOTE]Well, said here many times. One might not be able to travel to Russia and if he wants to sample a Russian the only chance is to pick one available, if available, where he travels. Very true she might not be the best of her country pack in all terms. Being also th choice quite limited one gets what the market offers. He can then say he tested a Russian, or an African or whatever. But at the same token I don't think he can definetely say "have tried Russian", even if it sounds the same.
I tried a black in Macau's Rio, ticked the box but I the t think I experimented a Nigerian. Same when I sampled a Russian (claiming being Ugandan, maybe her parents were military advisors there, LOL) , certainly I can't say she represented Russian, or maybe she did, with the lousy service.
Had a Jamaican in Singapore, not priming for the hot service they are known of.
Could also just be the chemistry factor.
[QUOTE=Noddy;1457692]An interesting point I would like to make is the fact that African ladies plying their trade in Pattaya are charging somewhat more for their services than are the African ladies in Bangkok. The Bangkok girls are just awful, unless the pretty ones took a few nights off while I was there LOL. Put your negotiating skills into practice, perhaps the price will be more favourable in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]There are a couple of Africans looking nice, slim, and ideal. The majority cater for other standards, big booties, on the chubby side, large mammaries that can't afford to loose the support of the bra or they (the breast) will be on her knees. Not everyone's cup of tea, but surely somebody gets them (or they get some late night customer with beer googles not willing to go home alone even if sometime it could be a better choice) as otherwise they would not trade for long.
Same as the famous Elena of soi 7/1 (subway terrace) : she must have a market and business even if we see her there for long hours.
[QUOTE=BionicMan; 1457758]It is a fact there is a high degree of HIV in Africa. That hits mostly the villages in the bushes, where there is no prostituion but can well happen there is a high degree of promiscuity, poor health conditions, poor economy and so on.
Lots of HIV is transmitted by blood from mother to child.[/QUOTE]HIV rates were ridiculously high, over 70 percent in 2006, for female sex workers in Ethiopia:
[url]http://www.aidstar-one.com/sites/default/files/day_1-3_quader.pdf[/url]
Hookers from Uganda have been reported as being in Pattaya:
[url]http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/28280/ugandan-prostitutes-rounded-up-in-pattaya/[/url]
HIV prevalence among female sex workers there was estimated at 35 percent in 2011:
[url]http://www.avert.org/aids-uganda.htm[/url]
[QUOTE=BionicMan;1457787]There are a couple of Africans looking nice, slim, and ideal. The majority cater for other standards, big booties, on the chubby side, large mammaries that can't afford to loose the support of the bra or they (the breast) will be on her knees. Not everyone's cup of tea, but surely somebody gets them (or they get some late night customer with beer googles not willing to go home alone even if sometime it could be a better choice) as otherwise they would not trade for long.[/QUOTE]You are right on this one. Came across a pair of large black women at a Frankfurt FKK few years ago. There is definitely a clientele for them.
I'm headed to Pattaya and Phuket in October. My 5th trip to Thailand. I love Thai girls but I'd like to mix it up a little this time. Has anyone noticed any Indian, mixed race or generally dark skinned girls in any of the agogos or massage parlors. I've heard there's an Indian girl at Teen Dream. Is she still there?
[QUOTE=Wolfie0066;1459093]I'm headed to Pattaya and Phuket in October. My 5th trip to Thailand. I love Thai girls but I'd like to mix it up a little this time. Has anyone noticed any Indian, mixed race or generally dark skinned girls in any of the agogos or massage parlors. I've heard there's an Indian girl at Teen Dream. Is she still there?[/QUOTE]I last visited Pattaya in June of this year there was a Indian girl working in a sheesha place in Arab street can't remember the name of the place 1500 short time and 3000 LT. Arab street and surroundings are worth a try you may find what you are looking for.
Good luck
[QUOTE=Run Mann;1452454]Saw this Blonde WG sitting in front of Subway two days ago. I saw the infamous Elena some time ago and if my memory serves me right this lady does not look like her or maybe she does, I don't remember her that well. This woman told me she is from Ukraine and used another name but (not Elena). She offered her services for 1000b for FS and massage. I did not take her up and started to walk away so she asked me how much, I waved her off but know that you can negotiate with her. If you like this type of woman, go to Soi 7-1 and get her in between her servicing customers. Pic is not the best quality as I took this with my phone.[/QUOTE]Anybody can confirm that she is (or not) the infamous Elena. ? Judging by the picture, I will also skip the woman, unless she is prettier and younger.
[QUOTE=BionicMan;1457784]Well, said here many times. One might not be able to travel to Russia and if he wants to sample a Russian the only chance is to pick one available, if available, where he travels. Very true she might not be the best of her country pack in all terms. Being also th choice quite limited one gets what the market offers. He can then say he tested a Russian, or an African or whatever. But at the same token I don't think he can definetely say "have tried Russian", even if it sounds the same.[/QUOTE]I don't think its very important which country label gets a attached to a girl. I don't have a bedpost notch for each country of the world, and girls often bullshit about where they come from. E. G. The Haitian claims to be Dom Rep. Another girl once met claims half Jamaican half American but who knows? Does it really matter much? Pick the best girl available regardless of nationality, unless its too dangerous to do so.
In all my years visiting Thailand I have never seen an Indian working girl. Sure, there have been many Indian looking girls but they are Thais from Isaan regions. There was one who claimed to be half Indian, but that was many years ago. And that is plausible because an Indian may have gotten some babies with a Thai WG. But look at it. Any good looking Indian WG makes more money in India than they would make in Thailand. And if there is one, it would be from very bottom of the pool. And that is the same case with all the other foreign sex workers. The good Europeans go to Germany, Netherlands etc. The dregs come to Thailand. Africans may be doing better, though. Hong Kong and Singapore is a much better destination for Indian WGs. But then I looked at some in Hong Kong. No thanks.
So if you want to taste the worst of the foreign working girls in BKK be my guest. It just tells what kind of monger you are.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1459595]I don't think its very important which country label gets a attached to a girl. I don't have a bedpost notch for each country of the world, and girls often bullshit about where they come from. E. G. The Haitian claims to be Dom Rep. Another girl once met claims half Jamaican half American but who knows? Does it really matter much? Pick the best girl available regardless of nationality, unless its too dangerous to do so.[/QUOTE]Might not be important but the opportunity to tick a box. There are some nationalities who have certain thrills or specialties.
Chinese are familiar for rimming, Ethiopian stay away from BJ, African have big bums, northern China girls are usually tall and slim, Thais can offer a GFE. Check IT Travel reports on "anal" section and his action in Russia: whilst not all Russian are like that, it is a fact it is hard to find elsewhere what IT Travel finds in there. Brazilian are easy going for anal, some even want it.
I agree, an Haitian will pretend being Dominican, but we talk about the same little island with a border in its middle. Two different economies is the main difference. Passing for Dominican maybe helps in getting better rates.
The thrill of mongering is not only in deeping one's dick into someone else pussy.
Otherwise we can all drill a hole in the ground and fuck the world.
[QUOTE=Duniawala;1459655]So if you want to taste the worst of the foreign working girls in BKK be my guest.[/QUOTE]I think that tends to sum it up. Once you have done quality girls from various countries in Europe or wherever, the ones here that you see generally do not cause any interest at all, and I have no thought of going looking for them on purpose. I can wait till I am in a more ideal location to find nice Brazilian, Jamaican, Dom Rep, Cuban girls etc, wherever they might claim to come from.
The best quality girls here are going to be Thai, various mountain people girls, Laos, Chinese and Cambodian girls, unless you get lucky with a gorgeous non-P4P girl on holidays.
I suppose the guy could find Myanmar girls that look a bit like Indian. I haven't tried. There are plenty of Myanmar workers in Thailand especially on the islands or Krabi but not that many in P4P. Could ask at Soapies with a lot of girls like Nataree if they have any Myanmar girls that look a bit Indian.
[QUOTE=BionicMan;1459672]I agree, an Haitian will pretend being Dominican, but we talk about the same little island with a border in its middle. Two different economies is the main difference. Passing for Dominican maybe helps in getting better rates.[/QUOTE]Generally good Dom Rep girls are much prettier than Haitian girls. Seems to be a different gene pool.
No need to get judgmental guy.
[quote]So if you want to taste the worst of the foreign working girls in BKK be my guest. It just tells what kind of monger you are..[/quote]
Hey guys,
I think I might be very helpful here regarding WG in Thailand. It all gets Down to what kind of girls you are searching for and how much are you willing to pay. I have been to Thailand five times always staying in Pattaya. 3 times in BKK and only once to Phuket. About African and South American girls they are so hard to find, seen like only four girls in my 5 times visit, so don't puch your luck if that's what you are looking for.
Most girls working in Thailand are either Thai, Russian, east Europe or girls from Uzbek, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, Iran and others in the same area. Few from Belarus and Ukraine, although more expensive and not widely available but are the cleanest and most beautiful. I will mention where to find these kinds of girls in BKK, Phuket and Pattaya.
First Phuket with my little experience there if you don't want Thai girls only two clubs you can pick up girls from, seduction club and Hollywood club, seduction is mostly foreigners but care because many are just tourists enjoying the night and not there for work. In Hollywood every girl is a WG but unfortunately more and more Thai Than others.
BKK has two main clubs where you can find very beautiful WG from Russia, Ukraine and others, mainly shock 39 club and mix discotheque, if you are a smoker pick the room of the club which plays house music because the RNb room is a non smoker room, and you can easily pass from this room to the other and back to look around, I recommend mixx very much, if you are looking for Arab Moroccan or Iranian girls you can visit the Arab area there, every body knows it, Greece hotel has many Arab girls plus the girls all around in the street, if you ae into Thai girls with nice looks and style (few) you can go Insomnia which will have the best music among all also, but I don't really recommend Thai girls if this is your first Thai experience because usually they don't look that good in the morning.
Now lets end this with Pattaya, the number one rated sin city in the world, because every sexual experience is available along a street designed by the devil him self, but that's not the point, Pattaya is by far the best of all regarding every man thought, there you will find every type of girl from all the nationalities I mentioned above. Arabs in the Arab neighborhood, east European, Russians and others you will findin mixx club which is the best in Pattaya along with nice Thai girls also, or at least the best in Pattaya, also you must pay a visit to Limalima club just beside Mixx club for beautiful foreign girls.
I hope my post was helpful for all of you and will be glad to offer any answers I have to anybody with a question.
[QUOTE=M Refaat; 1467232]Hey guys,
I think I might be very helpful here regarding WG in Thailand. It all gets Down to what kind of girls you are searching for and how much are you willing to pay. I have been to Thailand five times always staying in Pattaya. 3 times in BKK and only once to Phuket. About African and South American girls they are so hard to find, seen like only four girls in my 5 times visit, so don't puch your luck if that's what you are looking for.
Most girls working in Thailand are either Thai, Russian, east Europe or girls from Uzbek, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, Iran and others in the same area. Few from Belarus and Ukraine, although more expensive and not widely available but are the cleanest and most beautiful. I will mention where to find these kinds of girls in BKK, Phuket and Pattaya.
First Phuket with my little experience there if you don't want Thai girls only two clubs you can pick up girls from, seduction club and Hollywood club, seduction is mostly foreigners but care because many are just tourists enjoying the night and not there for work. In Hollywood every girl is a WG but unfortunately more and more Thai Than others.
BKK has two main clubs where you can find very beautiful WG from Russia, Ukraine and others, mainly shock 39 club and mix discotheque, if you are a smoker pick the room of the club which plays house music because the RNb room is a non smoker room, and you can easily pass from this room to the other and back to look around, I recommend mixx very much, if you are looking for Arab Moroccan or Iranian girls you can visit the Arab area there, every body knows it, Greece hotel has many Arab girls plus the girls all around in the street, if you ae into Thai girls with nice looks and style (few) you can go Insomnia which will have the best music among all also, but I don't really recommend Thai girls if this is your first Thai experience because usually they don't look that good in the morning.
Now lets end this with Pattaya, the number one rated sin city in the world, because every sexual experience is available along a street designed by the devil him self, but that's not the point, Pattaya is by far the best of all regarding every man thought, there you will find every type of girl from all the nationalities I mentioned above. Arabs in the Arab neighborhood, east European, Russians and others you will findin mixx club which is the best in Pattaya along with nice Thai girls also, or at least the best in Pattaya, also you must pay a visit to Limalima club just beside Mixx club for beautiful foreign girls.
I hope my post was helpful for all of you and will be glad to offer any answers I have to anybody with a question.[/QUOTE]Great job for a 2nd report, any news on prices, quality and your experience and success with them.
Hi Gentlemen.
I am travelling to Bangkok in another 3 weeks on work and thought I would make the best of my first trip to the city. I have been put up at Ramada, and the initial reports suggest that it is a girl friendly hotel. Whew, lucky me esp since this is a company sponsored trip! I am travelling from India and I am aware of the "great reputation" that precedes me. :-D.
If you could suggest the places / joints from where I could pick up Middle Eastern women, or European and Russians, I would be grateful. Any tip on the average rate would be lovely!
Thanks!
[QUOTE=JetsonJenk; 1469735]Hi Gentlemen.
I am travelling to Bangkok in another 3 weeks on work and thought I would make the best of my first trip to the city. I have been put up at Ramada, and the initial reports suggest that it is a girl friendly hotel. Whew, lucky me esp since this is a company sponsored trip! I am travelling from India and I am aware of the "great reputation" that precedes me. :-D.
If you could suggest the places / joints from where I could pick up Middle Eastern women, or European and Russians, I would be grateful. Any tip on the average rate would be lovely!
Thanks![/QUOTE]Maybe reading a few posts below will answer your posts.
Thanks for contributing to the reputation of your country, you are perfectly fit for that.
[QUOTE=M Refaat; 1467232]Hey guys,
Greece hotel has many Arab girls plus the girls all around in the street, if you ae into Thai girls with nice looks and style (few) you can go Insomnia which will have the best music among all also, but I don't really recommend Thai girls if this is your first Thai experience because usually they don't look that good in the morning.[/QUOTE]If you mean Grace hotel at Soi 3, yes it is Arab residing hotel. Might be owner one also from Arab. Basically street girls starts hanging from the gate of Grace Hotel and ends until Asoke intersection and a bit more. If you talk about Arab girls am really confused about that. Some of girls from Grace hotel gate, claims themselves from Russia, actually they are not. Most of them are from Central Asia. It is very impractical to find a WG in such said locality.
[QUOTE=Mua Tur;1469865]It is very impractical to find a WG in such said locality.[/QUOTE]Need correction of this line. It will "It is very impractical to find an Arab WG in such said locality"
From Soi 3 to Asoke, there are full of Middle Eastern ladies covered under cloths or some were not. Might be some times they are alone too. It does not make any sense that they are WG.
Apologies, Mr Bionic Man. I wasn't aware that you would waste your time on your two lines spewing your caustic flavour. Sometimes if you find a query not worth commenting on, just do not comment. Pity you'd waste your time and whatever little of your motor functions you are left with to spew comments that are uncalled for. Let peace reign.
My sincerest apologies once again.
[QUOTE=BionicMan; 1469844]Maybe reading a few posts below will answer your posts.
Thanks for contributing to the reputation of your country, you are perfectly fit for that.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JetsonJenk; 1470077]Apologies, Mr Bionic Man. I wasn't aware that you would waste your time on your two lines spewing your caustic flavour. Sometimes if you find a query not worth commenting on, just do not comment. Pity you'd waste your time and whatever little of your motor functions you are left with to spew comments that are uncalled for. Let peace reign.
My sincerest apologies once again.[/QUOTE]Just catches my eyes about the effort of Mr. JetsonJenk:
Report #344: Some quarries of you.
Report #342: A highlight about your quarries.
You may have more answers if you spend a little more effort.
Now, what you missed or messed!
[QUOTE=JetsonJenk; 1469735]Hi Gentlemen.
I am travelling to Bangkok in another 3 weeks on work and thought I would make the best of my first trip to the city. I have been put up at Ramada, and the initial reports suggest that it is a girl friendly hotel. Whew, lucky me esp since this is a company sponsored trip! I am travelling from India and I am aware of the "great reputation" that precedes me. :-D.
If you could suggest the places / joints from where I could pick up Middle Eastern women, or European and Russians, I would be grateful. Any tip on the average rate would be lovely!
Thanks![/QUOTE]Nasamte!
I recommend the places mentioned in the posts below.
Since you're Indian they will charge you at least twice the white European farang price.
Hope this helps!
[QUOTE=JetsonJenk; 1469735]Hi Gentlemen.
I am travelling to Bangkok in another 3 weeks on work and thought I would make the best of my first trip to the city. I have been put up at Ramada, and the initial reports suggest that it is a girl friendly hotel. Whew, lucky me esp since this is a company sponsored trip! I am travelling from India and I am aware of the "great reputation" that precedes me. :-D.
If you could suggest the places / joints from where I could pick up Middle Eastern women, or European and Russians, I would be grateful. Any tip on the average rate would be lovely!
Thanks![/QUOTE]Grace hotel, Rajah Hotel, mixx disco, CM2 Disco are prime pick up places for your kind man.
But prices can go high like atleast 3K for a shot. But it all boils down to your charm and the girl's will
Thanks, Asslover. I don't mind the price if they're Arab or middle-eastern. My experience tells me that if you don't bargain and treat them right they'll give you more than you have bargained for. I am an asslover too, and love the middle-eastern asses.
Thanks, again!
[QUOTE=AssLover945; 1470485]Grace hotel, Rajah Hotel, mixx disco, CM2 Disco are prime pick up places for your kind man.
But prices can go high like atleast 3K for a shot. But it all boils down to your charm and the girl's will[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JetsonJenk; 1470500]Thanks, Asslover. I don't mind the price if they're Arab or middle-eastern. My experience tells me that if you don't bargain and treat them right they'll give you more than you have bargained for. I am an asslover too, and love the middle-eastern asses.
Thanks, again![/QUOTE]Will you mind to read the post properly?
In the post #347, it was been mentioned about Russian WGs. Not the Middle Eastern.
If you are obsessed about Middle East girl try Dubai. Also flooded by outsiders, will be difficult to find local one, even a Palestinian or a Lebanese.
BKK! Try your hard luck.
Dude, no offence I know what I read and what I wrote. The title therefore is middle-eastern bums and not a response to the Russian bit. If you think I messed up somewhere in my comprehension, my apologies. No offense to you or anyone, but please live and let live. Let's just monger.
Peace to you, brother.
[QUOTE=Mua Tur; 1470522]Will you mind to read the post properly?
In the post #347, it was been mentioned about Russian WGs. Not the Middle Eastern.
If you are obsessed about Middle East girl try Dubai. Also flooded by outsiders, will be difficult to find local one, even a Palestinian or a Lebanese.
BKK! Try your hard luck.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JetsonJenk; 1470893]Dude, no offence I know what I read and what I wrote. The title therefore is middle-eastern bums and not a response to the Russian bit. If you think I messed up somewhere in my comprehension, my apologies. No offense to you or anyone, but please live and let live. Let's just monger.
Peace to you, brother.[/QUOTE]Here is nothing to be offended.
But you are searching your things in wrong place. It is impractical to have a Middle East girl in BKK night bazaar. If they exist they can get more pricy market for them in their reach. If any one confirmed you about Arab girl, sure it will be end up messing with a girl from Central Asia.
Just a piece of word.
[QUOTE=JetsonJenk; 1470500]Thanks, Asslover. I don't mind the price if they're Arab or middle-eastern. My experience tells me that if you don't bargain and treat them right they'll give you more than you have bargained for. I am an asslover too, and love the middle-eastern asses.
Thanks, again![/QUOTE]Try Arab restaurants between Sukhumvit and Grace Hotel. I can't remember the name but I think if you walk from Sukhumvit on Soi 3 towards Grace hotel, take first right and immediately on the corner is an Indian restaurant. You may find mostly Uzbek (sometimes pretending to be Arab there or rarely a genuine Arab there. If you walk further in the same street there is a very busy Arab restaurant at the corner on left. I met a Jordanian there.
Please note that I am not Arab and cannot speak Arabic. However, I think in the first one were Uzbek pretending to be Arab (guessed from their height and colour) and the Arab restaurant was probably genuine Arab.
Quality is not good and you can easily negotiate from BHT 1000 to BHT 2000.
However, for Arab girls probably your best option is Morocco. (probably Arab speaking North Africans)
Point duly noted, Surfer. Thanks, much appreciated. I was told by a colleague in Singapore that Arab women can be found but rare. He mentioned that he had picked up a lady from Sukhumvit. I, of course, have no knowledge of the city and would mostly be a blind man groping my way through the streets. .
[QUOTE=Global Surfer; 1471063]Try Arab restaurants between Sukhumvit and Grace Hotel. I can't remember the name but I think if you walk from Sukhumvit on Soi 3 towards Grace hotel, take first right and immediately on the corner is an Indian restaurant. You may find mostly Uzbek (sometimes pretending to be Arab there or rarely a genuine Arab there. If you walk further in the same street there is a very busy Arab restaurant at the corner on left. I met a Jordanian there.
Please note that I am not Arab and cannot speak Arabic. However, I think in the first one were Uzbek pretending to be Arab (guessed from their height and colour) and the Arab restaurant was probably genuine Arab.
Quality is not good and you can easily negotiate from BHT 1000 to BHT 2000.
However, for Arab girls probably your best option is Morocco. (probably Arab speaking North Africans) [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Global Surfer;1471063]Try Arab restaurants between Sukhumvit and Grace Hotel.[/QUOTE]Usually they have a pimp dressed in white and hehandles from one to 3 women, dressed in black. Sometime of different ages to cater to different needs, each one his own, we all know that
Better negotiate with the pimp in white, more effective as more used to discuss services and rates.
[QUOTE=BionicMan; 1471271]Usually they have a pimp dressed in white and hehandles from one to 3 women, dressed in black. Sometime of different ages to cater to different needs, each one his own, we all know that
Better negotiate with the pimp in white, more effective as more used to discuss services and rates.[/QUOTE]Thanks for information.
I never noticed pimp. The Jordanian came set on the table next to me and invited herself by crude eye contact.
Next time I came to Bangkok I will try the pimp.
[QUOTE=Global Surfer; 1471439]Thanks for information.
I never noticed pimp. The Jordanian came set on the table next to me and invited herself by crude eye contact.
Next time I came to Bangkok I will try the pimp.[/QUOTE]If they exists or if they showed up for non Arabs.
[QUOTE=Global Surfer; 1471439]Thanks for information.
I never noticed pimp. The Jordanian came set on the table next to me and invited herself by crude eye contact.
Next time I came to Bangkok I will try the pimp.[/QUOTE]You can freely talk to the pimp as, being male, he will share services descriptions with no shyness.
[QUOTE=M Refaat; 1467232]Hey guys,
I think I might be very helpful here regarding WG in Thailand. It all gets Down to what kind of girls you are searching for and how much are you willing to pay. I have been to Thailand five times always staying in Pattaya. 3 times in BKK and only once to Phuket. About African and South American girls they are so hard to find, seen like only four girls in my 5 times visit, so don't puch your luck if that's what you are looking for.
Most girls working in Thailand are either Thai, Russian, east Europe or girls from Uzbek, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, Iran and others in the same area. Few from Belarus and Ukraine, although more expensive and not widely available but are the cleanest and most beautiful. I will mention where to find these kinds of girls in BKK, Phuket and Pattaya.
First Phuket with my little experience there if you don't want Thai girls only two clubs you can pick up girls from, seduction club and Hollywood club, seduction is mostly foreigners but care because many are just tourists enjoying the night and not there for work. In Hollywood every girl is a WG but unfortunately more and more Thai Than others...[/QUOTE]Excellent color and thorough review of the discos for foreign ladies. I apologize in advance for being off thread, but since you have extensive knowledge, would you mind if I asked which discos are best for Thai FLs? Bangkok, Pattaya & Phuket if you can.
[QUOTE=M Refaat; 1467232]Hey guys,
About African and South American girls they are so hard to find, seen like only four girls in my 5 times visit, so don't puch your luck if that's what you are looking for.[/QUOTE]That's unusual statement, because in Pattaya, I see INCREASING amounts of Africans. I don't' know why they import the ugliest ones from Africa, because I have only wanted to be with one that I've seen on 2nd Road. It does seem that they will allow so many to roam Walking St. Before they're rounded up, put on Pattaya news and sent home.
I am in contact now with a Kenyan in LOS with huge tits that I plan on meeting next month.
[QUOTE=JetsonJenk; 1469735]Hi Gentlemen.
I am travelling to Bangkok in another 3 weeks on work and thought I would make the best of my first trip to the city. I have been put up at Ramada, and the initial reports suggest that it is a girl friendly hotel. Whew, lucky me esp since this is a company sponsored trip! I am travelling from India and I am aware of the "great reputation" that precedes me. :-D.
If you could suggest the places / joints from where I could pick up Middle Eastern women, or European and Russians, I would be grateful. Any tip on the average rate would be lovely!
Thanks![/QUOTE]Hi,
I just visited these places a month back. You can try the Rajah Hotel and Grace Hotel. When you get here you can see a lot of women in the waiting area, a pimp would approach you and you can make a choice. Damage would be 2600 to 3100 Bhat for a single session including the room. Or you could try the Nana Disco for freelancers.
[QUOTE=Flyte137; 1477175]Hi,
I just visited these places a month back. You can try the Rajah Hotel and Grace Hotel. When you get here you can see a lot of women in the waiting area, a pimp would approach you and you can make a choice. Damage would be 2600 to 3100 Bhat for a single session including the room. Or you could try the Nana Disco for freelancers.[/QUOTE]Not perhaps the correct thread but, just out of interest, I came across two Iranian hookers on Beach Road Pattaya a few days ago.
One was rather "chunky" but the other was quite acceptable.
This was certainly a FIRST for me.
So, if you are "collecting flags" it could be worth a try.
Enjoy,
Hotman.
I came across two Iranian hookers on Beach Road Pattaya a few days ago.
Did you ask them their nationality?
And have you seen any African girls at Pattaya?
[QUOTE=Bangkokmp; 1477838]I came across two Iranian hookers on Beach Road Pattaya a few days ago.
Did you ask them their nationality?
And have you seen any African girls at Pattaya?[/QUOTE]
I saw the passport of the cutest of the two.
I have seen African hookers on Beach Road and Walking St. but in my opinion the quality was quite low.
A few quite reasonable African girls used to stay at a small bar that had rooms on 2nd Road just North of Soi 8 but I did not see them this visit.
I do not think that I have ever seen an African working girl that I would consider "stunning" in Pattaya.
Most of the ones that I have seen look older, well used and suffer from the after effects of one (or more) pregnancies.
I did have the pleasure of an encounter with a Ruwandan "civilian" a few years ago in Pattaya. She was definitely rather cute and had a magnificent body.
Hotman.
[QUOTE=Hotman 666; 1478273]I saw the passport of the cutest of the two.
I have seen African hookers on Beach Road and Walking St. But in my opinion the quality was quite low.
A few quite reasonable African girls used to stay at a small bar that had rooms on 2nd Road just North of Soi 8 but I did not see them this visit.
I do not think that I have ever seen an African working girl that I would consider "stunning" in Pattaya.
Most of the ones that I have seen look older, well used and suffer from the after effects of one (or more) pregnancies.
I did have the pleasure of an encounter with a Ruwandan "civilian" a few years ago in Pattaya. She was definitely rather cute and had a magnificent body.
Hotman.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your report.
I didn't think that Iranian hookers were in Pattaya.
I'll find African in Bangkok first.
[QUOTE=Bangkokmp; 1478298]Thank you for your report.
I didn't think that Iranian hookers were in Pattaya.
I'll find African in Bangkok first.[/QUOTE]Bangkokmp,
These two Iranians were the first that I had seen in Pattaya.
You will find quite a few Africans working in BKK along Sukhumvit Road but in my experience they have not been the best looking African girls that I have seen.
They will claim to be from many different African countries but most that I have met are actually Nigerian.
Best of luck with your research and I am sure that board members would appreciate hearing about your experiences.
Enjoy,
Hotman.
[QUOTE=Hotman 666; 1478273]I saw the passport of the cutest of the two.
I have seen African hookers on Beach Road and Walking St. But in my opinion the quality was quite low.
A few quite reasonable African girls used to stay at a small bar that had rooms on 2nd Road just North of Soi 8 but I did not see them this visit.[/QUOTE]If you're going in pursuit of African women in Pattaya, your name better be St. George because you'll be dealing with dragons.
Also, make damn sure she leaves some sort of I'd at the reception and you lock all your valuables away in your in-safe. Never leave a drink unattended if you have an African hooker in your room or you may wake up 12 hours later with a tremendous headache and all your possessions missing. There have been a lot of very negative reports from guys who have braved encounters with African streetwalkers in Pattaya.
Another thing to be aware of is that virtually all of the sex workers in Pattaya who aren't Asian or African come from one of the Soviet successor states. They may say they come from Iran or Turkey or Morocco, but they actually come from Uzbekistan or Turkmenistan. They lie about their countries of origin because they think it gives them more appeal and also helps hide them better if a complaint is made to the police.
Evil
[QUOTE=Evil Penivel; 1478597]but they actually come from Uzbekistan or Turkmenistan.
Evil[/QUOTE]They even have a documentary on tv now showing how Thai police are trying to bust Uzbek human traffic rings in LOS. Their homebase is Grace hotel.
[QUOTE=Naked Gunz;1478680]They even have a documentary on tv now showing how Thai police are trying to bust Uzbek human traffic rings in LOS. Their homebase is Grace hotel.[/QUOTE]The Grace is their working base, most of them have accomodation in Soi 1 where you can be lucky to pick up one.
[QUOTE=Naked Gunz;1478680]They even have a documentary on tv now showing how Thai police are trying to bust Uzbek human traffic rings in LOS. Their homebase is Grace hotel.[/QUOTE]Hi isn't that documentary 2 years old? There is a concern yes. Have there been recent events unfolding? Cheers
Just to change. But they do not have the style of Thai girls!
The photo is of a nice girl from Tanzania, but I think Uganda, last year known in WS.
[QUOTE=Nickc;1483528]Hi isn't that documentary 2 years old? There is a concern yes. Have there been recent events unfolding? Cheers[/QUOTE]It looked recent enough to me. I got the impression that will be an ongoing investigation because you have priests, westerners trying to save the world always. I don't like cheap looking Eastern Europe women personally. Always way too much makeup, smoking, plump bodies, sh*tty service and personality. But some guys like the dirty look.
[QUOTE=Legionnaire; 1497844]Just to change. But they do not have the style of Thai girls!
The photo is of a nice girl from Tanzania, but I think Uganda, last year known in WS.[/QUOTE]Did you pick her up on sukhumvit near soi5?
[QUOTE=BionicMan;1497978]Did you pick her up on sukhumvit near soi5?[/QUOTE]No, I picked her in WS (walking street, Pattaya), there is one open bar where same of these African queen stay, but also aroud the beach road, or in the disco near the pier. Usually they try to claim that most indigenous.
Just to change 2. This time, a queen of the steppe, from Moscow to Pattaya. Very friendly. Spasibo.
There are quite a few CIS chicks roaming on Walking street. Never tried to engage with them but sure the quality is poor compared to what you would find elsewhere. Nevertheless, I did come across one beauty in a sheesha bar and observing from a distance, men would engage with her but would soon leave, perhaps because of the straight faced attitude most of CIS have. But there could be some hidden gems, like the one you encountered. Where did you find her?
[QUOTE=Legionnaire;1498675]Just to change 2. This time, a queen of the steppe, from Moscow to Pattaya. Very friendly. Spasibo.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Member #2635;1499673]There are quite a few CIS chicks roaming on Walking street. Never tried to engage with them but sure the quality is poor compared to what you would find elsewhere. Nevertheless, I did come across one beauty in a sheesha bar and observing from a distance, men would engage with her but would soon leave, perhaps because of the straight faced attitude most of CIS have. But there could be some hidden gems, like the one you encountered. Where did you find her?[/QUOTE]I was intrigued to find her at night sitting on a bench in the beach road and in fact I asked her if she was there for."that"! Unlike the average of his countrymen (those in the pro version, but other one that I remember friendly, desirous of company, preferably drowned in alcohol) , as rightly you said above, was placed in a nice and really cute and accomplice, and then I was glad to ask her to come with me!
Tried to PM you for digits of this lady is you don't mind. Looks like your PM facility is not activated. Or else could you indicate where in beach road you found her?
[QUOTE=Legionnaire;1499877]I was intrigued to find her at night sitting on a bench in the beach road and in fact I asked her if she was there for."that"! Unlike the average of his countrymen (those in the pro version, but other one that I remember friendly, desirous of company, preferably drowned in alcohol) , as rightly you said above, was placed in a nice and really cute and accomplice, and then I was glad to ask her to come with me![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Member #2635;1500052]Tried to PM you for digits of this lady is you don't mind. Looks like your PM facility is not activated. Or else could you indicate where in beach road you found her?[/QUOTE]The guy does not have PM facility for the simple reason he hasn't paid the subscription.
As they say in Thailand "no money, no honey"
[QUOTE=Legionnaire;1498675]Just to change 2. This time, a queen of the steppe, from Moscow to Pattaya. Very friendly. Spasibo.[/QUOTE]Wow! She looks like she worked in Siberian salt mines. Cute but the body of a prizefighter. This woman could really hurt you if pissed off. How was the ride?
The only CIS I've had in last few years was a stunner in DXB Broadway hotel that moved so vigorously under me I shot my load fairly quickly. I'm sure that was the plan. Then she proudly announced that she was 17 yo! Gulp!
[QUOTE=Legionnaire;1498675]Just to change 2. This time, a queen of the steppe, from Moscow to Pattaya. Very friendly. Spasibo.[/QUOTE]It is "SpasibA". Not with "o".
[QUOTE=Willyboy;1500123]It is "SpasibA". Not with "o".[/QUOTE]Yes, I know like this, but google trasl. Tell me: "&1089; &1087; &1072; &1089; &1080; &1073; &1086;" and "spasibo".
Spasiba!
[QUOTE=Naked Gunz; 1500096]Wow! She looks like she worked in Siberian salt mines. Cute but the body of a prizefighter. This woman could really hurt you if pissed off. How was the ride?
The only CIS I've had in last few years was a stunner in DXB Broadway hotel that moved so vigorously under me I shot my load fairly quickly. I'm sure that was the plan. Then she proudly announced that she was 17 yo! Gulp![/QUOTE]Sometimes I like to try the female wild boar style too! Double gulp!
[QUOTE=Willyboy;1500123]It is "SpasibA". Not with "o".[/QUOTE]He wrote it correctly. It is written spasibo.
If you want to be pedantic, first check your facts. In the Russian language a soft "o" is pronounced as an "a".
A famous example is the word "avtomobil" (car) which is pronounced "avtamabil".
Regards,
Ko
[QUOTE=Member #2635;1500052]Tried to PM you for digits of this lady is you don't mind. Looks like your PM facility is not activated. Or else could you indicate where in beach road you found her?[/QUOTE]Between P. Klang and Soi 6, but only for two days (night). After never look her. I remember the name, Natalie.
Dear Member #2635 since you're a fan of the genre, one last pic of Natalie.
[QUOTE=BionicMan; 1500076]The guy does not have PM facility for the simple reason he hasn't paid the subscription.
As they say in Thailand "no money, no honey"[/QUOTE]For this I am little bit hard: "no honey, no money".
Spasiba, Spasibo, Tomato, Tometo. I like that girl (meet my standard).
Thanks for the pictures, Legionnaire.
Thanks for the pic mate. I will be in Pattaya in December for a week. With a bit of luck, may come across Natalie. God, I always fall for the CIS, even in Thailand!
[QUOTE=Legionnaire;1500195]Dear Member #2635 since you're a fan of the genre, one last pic of Natalie.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Member #2635;1500567]Thanks for the pic mate. I will be in Pattaya in December for a week. With a bit of luck, may come across Natalie. God, I always fall for the CIS, even in Thailand![/QUOTE]Only one week? I lost her phone num. But I have dropped N. In the Soi with traffic light opposit Big C (ex Carrefour) beetwen 9 Carat Condo and Nirun. She stands with some friends. Maybe you can meet also the friends.
Good luck.
It still gives me a tremendous buzz seeing honey on the sidewalk all be that these are African. Was approached by one of the Gambians who sat down next to me whilst having a beer, Sukhamvit Road, only to be chased off by the Thai vendor lady. I did not partake as I get cheap, cheap in Africa. Fellas, I do not know why I'm afflicted by roadside honey for sale but it surely is the thrill of my life life. I guess growing up in Africa will do that to you.
I took a few photos, of course by now the camera was inebriated, hence the poor quality, but you get the idea.
Hi friends,
What's the best time of the year to visit Thailand for. Great fuck. Also please PM me all your suggestion and places for a great experience. Please let me know. CIS contact that you my want to share.
Thanks
[QUOTE=PleasureOfLove; 1511393]Hi friends,
What's the best time of the year to visit Thailand for. Great fuck. Also please PM me all your suggestion and places for a great experience. Please let me know. CIS contact that you my want to share.
Thanks[/QUOTE]The whole year is perfect for meeting friendly Thai ladies. There is no "best" time.
I'm going to Bangkok next week and I'll find African or CIS girls around Nana station.
Will I find them easily? Or nobody recommend come to Bangkok during a state of emergency?
So. Where are all the Russian / East European girls? Are they any good; meaning are they GFE with nice attitudes?
[QUOTE=Bangkokmp; 1524181]I'm going to Bangkok next week and I'll find African or CIS girls around Nana station.
Will I find them easily? Or nobody recommend come to Bangkok during a state of emergency?[/QUOTE]Saw over 20 African girls a night this week. Only 2 were stunning. Pattaya is booming. Vets will be fine in BKK.
Newbies can detour to Pattaya. Roughly 20 / Africans a night in Pattaya also. The African spinners were popular.
[QUOTE=PleasureOfLove; 1511393]Hi friends,
What's the best time of the year to visit Thailand for. Great fuck. Also please PM me all your suggestion and places for a great experience. Please let me know. CIS contact that you my want to share.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Weather wise now and of course when the dollar and Euro is strong against the baht.
[QUOTE=Cool; 1524375]Saw over 20 African girls a night this week. Only 2 were stunning. Pattaya is booming. Vets will be fine in BKK.
Newbies can detour to Pattaya. Roughly 20 / Africans a night in Pattaya also. The African spinners were popular.[/QUOTE]If I find African, I'll report here with pics.
Thank you
I was walking from Soi 3 to 15 2 times on Tuesday around 10pm.
However, I didn't find African girls, but there are lots of black guys.
2 cis girls sitting down out of subway.
[QUOTE=Bangkokmp; 1528528]I was walking from Soi 3 to 15 2 times on Tuesday around 10pm.
However, I didn't find African girls, but there are lots of black guys.
2 cis girls sitting down out of subway.[/QUOTE]They mostly show up between 1 AM and 3 AM and often hang between Soi 3 and Soi 7 at the mobile bars, particuarly ones with little if any lighting
May I kindly know a sure place to meet some Khmer, Chinese and Filipina girls in BKK?
I'll be staying in Nana, Sukhumvit.
Khmer = Cambodian for those who don't know. Ofc, I won't be upset if I don't find any since I'm here for the hot Thais.
Maybe Annie's is a good place?
[QUOTE=TigerCountry; 1531587]May I kindly know a sure place to meet some Khmer, Chinese and Filipina girls in BKK?
I'll be staying in Nana, Sukhumvit.
Khmer = Cambodian for those who don't know. Ofc, I won't be upset if I don't find any since I'm here for the hot Thais.
Maybe Annie's is a good place?[/QUOTE]Khmer. Anywhere you'd find Thai girls (start on Sukhumwit, I guess). Look for girls from southern Isan provinces, like Buri Ram, Surin, Si Saket. Shouldn't be difficult, given that most working girls are from Isan. Many people from that region are ethnic Khmer, speaking Khmer language at home and having the same looks. Though they're likely Thai citizens.
Chinese. There are some PRC women around Broadway hotel in Yaowarat and Wong Wian 22 in the same area. Be warned, it's a Thai-oriented scene, not Farang friendly and service is atrocious. On the positive side, you can get a short time for 500 baht or so. If you want to spend 10x as much and get far better service potentially from Thai-Chinese girls, look at upper end massage parlors on Rachada (e. G. Poseidon) or G-Clubs.
Filipina. No specific place. They mostly come to do other work (like teaching). No good reason for Filipina prostitutes to work in Thailand. They'd be illegal, not get paid much more than back home, and have nothing to offer over Thais (looks are similar, they're not sought after by Thai guys like the Chinese or Russians). I did snatch a half-Thai half-PI freelancer on Sukhumwit Soi 3 once. But if you want to reliably find a Filipina in Thailand, better look on online dating sites, or just book a flight to AC, they're cheap!
No such thing as a sure place for illegal foreign workers. Massage parlors or bars normally won't hire foreign women. But no problem finding ethnic Khmer who are Thai citizens, or Thai Chinese (more difficult since they're usually middle / upper class).
[QUOTE=TigerCountry; 1531587]May I kindly know a sure place to meet some Khmer, Chinese and Filipina girls in BKK?
I'll be staying in Nana, Sukhumvit.
Khmer = Cambodian for those who don't know. Ofc, I won't be upset if I don't find any since I'm here for the hot Thais.
Maybe Annie's is a good place?[/QUOTE]If I remember well, non-Thai girls cannot work legally in massage parlors and agogo clubs.
What are the best disco's to find a Russian stunner and are they ok with taking money in the morning like a Thai girl?
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1531680]If I remember well, non-Thai girls cannot work legally in massage parlors and agogo clubs.[/QUOTE]Well they can definitely work in bars. Example at least two cute Vietnamese girls work in STRIKERS (Pool Bar) on Soil 4. Now they happen to be Coyotes as far as I can tell, but are purportedly the country legally on special visas.
[QUOTE=NeverJerkOff;1536907]What are the best disco's to find a Russian stunner and are they ok with taking money in the morning like a Thai girl?[/QUOTE]Stunners? LOL, Try Grace Hotel on Soi 3 The Russian scene is very problematic. Note there is a middle age blonde that hangs at Subway on Soil 7/1 late night. You might also catch a few Russians and their pimps at Climax under the Ambassador Hotel on Soi 11.
[QUOTE=NeverJerkOff;1536907]What are the best disco's to find a Russian stunner and are they ok with taking money in the morning like a Thai girl?[/QUOTE]Most Russians are actually Central Asians.
In addition to what Wester787 has told you try.
CM2 in Novotel.
Rajah Hotel Soi 4 just after Nana Plaza. You will get one pop form 2500-3000 BHT. Quality is good service so so.
Most girls claiming to be Arabs on soi 4 are actually Uzbek.
Please note that my information is 08 months old
[QUOTE=Global Surfer; 1537665]Most Russians are actually Central Asians.
In addition to what Wester787 has told you try.
CM2 in Novotel.
Rajah Hotel Soi 4 just after Nana Plaza. You will get one pop form 2500-3000 BHT. Quality is good service so so.
Most girls claiming to be Arabs on soi 4 are actually Uzbek.
Please note that my information is 08 months old[/QUOTE]IIRC, CM2 is now closed.
[QUOTE=NeverJerkOff;1536907]What are the best disco's to find a Russian stunner and are they ok with taking money in the morning like a Thai girl?[/QUOTE]Your best bet is Mixx Discotheque in the Hotel Intercontinental if you don't mind staying up late. I don't have enough experience with women from the FSU in Thailand to answer the second part. At Mixx, I'd suspect the majority would be OK with payment in the morning. At a place like Rajah, which is more of a *****house and short time option, I'd suspect not.
About Phordphan's post, I read that CM2 may open after renovation under a different name. Does anyone know anything about that? I'm going to be camped out for about a month this year in a hotel a couple of blocks from there.
[QUOTE=Legionnaire;1500195]Dear Member #2635 since you're a fan of the genre, one last pic of Natalie.[/QUOTE]Hi,
Please let me know where I can find her.
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3-4 years ago CM2 was charging ludicrous entry fee and use to be full. Mostly WGs were Central Asians, a few Russians, Turkish and Africans. Going rate was 4-6K occasionally asking for 10K. Last year CM2 was deserted with only 3-40 people including 7-8 Uzbek WGs.
I understand most clients were local Thais, Arabs and South Asians who love Russians. I think clients are still there along with loads of money but why CM2 died? Is it competition?
This is the famous Elena, the Syberian freelancer of the subways in Soi 7/1, I met her at around 05PM, in January, I'm agree for a ST at 1000 THB, we going to her room at the Rajah hotel. Good service, GFE, shower first then CBJ and fucking in some positions (cowgirl, missionary and finish in doggystyle) she's not a clock watcher, after fucking we talking a lot, she claimed that she is 33 why.
[QUOTE=Boeing 787;1555574]This is the famous Elena, the Syberian freelancer of the subways in Soi 7/1, I met her at around 05PM, in January, I'm agree for a ST at 1000 THB, we going to her room at the Rajah hotel. Good service, GFE, shower first then CBJ and fucking in some positions (cowgirl, missionary and finish in doggystyle) she's not a clock watcher, after fucking we talking a lot, she claimed that she is 33 why.[/QUOTE]Congrats as you took one for the team.
[QUOTE=Boeing 787;1555574]This is the famous Elena, the Syberian freelancer of the subways in Soi 7/1, I met her at around 05PM, in January, I'm agree for a ST at 1000 THB, we going to her room at the Rajah hotel.[/QUOTE]I add my congratulations for the report kind of much awaited. I was always puzzled but not confident on CSI performances.
Your experience seems positive, all in all. Pity for the CBJ which is an off for me.
I am pretty sure your report will increase her customer panel.
[QUOTE=Global Surfer; 1540770]3-4 years ago CM2 was charging ludicrous entry fee and use to be full. Mostly WGs were Central Asians, a few Russians, Turkish and Africans. Going rate was 4-6K occasionally asking for 10K. Last year CM2 was deserted with only 3-40 people including 7-8 Uzbek WGs.
[/QUOTE]Take a look at this documentary on Uzbekian sex trafficking (specifically at 8:54) and its no wonder the club lost business.: [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1nRKU6ug9M[/url]
[QUOTE=Boeing 787;1555574]This is the famous Elena, the Syberian freelancer of the subways in Soi 7/1, I met her at around 05PM, in January, I'm agree for a ST at 1000 THB, we going to her room at the Rajah hotel. Good service, GFE, shower first then CBJ and fucking in some positions (cowgirl, missionary and finish in doggystyle) she's not a clock watcher, after fucking we talking a lot, she claimed that she is 33 why.[/QUOTE]In the USA she would be working in a Subway as a professional sandwich maker. In Thailand, she sits in front of Subway working as a professional cock sucker. God I love Thailand!
I met Yana or Lana who is sitting in front of subway in February.
The cost was B1000 for s / t. She took me short time hotel where it takes 30 sec. From subway. Room rate was B350.
So you need B1000 + B350 with condom.
She was nice, I recommend her.
[QUOTE=Bangkokmp; 1555965]I met Yana or Lana who is sitting in front of subway in February.
The cost was B1000 for s / t. She took me short time hotel where it takes 30 sec. From subway. Room rate was B350.
So you need B1000 + B350 with condom.
She was nice, I recommend her.[/QUOTE]Mind to share? Pm me please.
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[QUOTE=Western787; 1555828]Take a look at this documentary on Uzbekian sex trafficking (specifically at 8:54) and its no wonder the club lost business. :
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1nRKU6ug9M[/url][/QUOTE]That documentary is already quite some years old. It does not seem that the actions depicted in this documentary have had any lasting effect.
I always imagined her to be 50lbs heavier and 12 years older. The price is right and I can get it up for her. Maybe ill try it to check off the "fucked it" list.
[QUOTE=Boeing 787;1555574]This is the famous Elena, the Syberian freelancer of the subways in Soi 7/1, I met her at around 05PM, in January, I'm agree for a ST at 1000 THB, we going to her room at the Rajah hotel. Good service, GFE, shower first then CBJ and fucking in some positions (cowgirl, missionary and finish in doggystyle) she's not a clock watcher, after fucking we talking a lot, she claimed that she is 33 why.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Western787; 1555828]Take a look at this documentary on Uzbekian sex trafficking (specifically at 8:54) and its no wonder the club lost business. :
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1nRKU6ug9M[/url][/QUOTE]Thanks for the information.
Any idea how many of them are really forced?
[QUOTE=Global Surfer; 1556156]Thanks for the information.
Any idea how many of them are really forced?[/QUOTE]One might ask. They make an entire documentary about THAT?
"Sex trafficking:" (or often used interchangeable with the term "sex slavery") does occur in certain case in certain locales throughout the world, but I am convinced after years at looking at these ginned up numbers they are at least 99% exaggerated.
However victimization is a very profitable business for the NGO's and "rescue industry"
The documentary claims 1. 5 million women worldwide are "trafficked" and / or are sex slaves, half in southeast asia, and many in Bangkok, so are they now saying 100, 000? 350, 000? Women are sex slaves in Bangkok? They can never support these claims. Yes, sex slavery does exist, but they had to broaden the definition in recent years to even make the numbers 1% true, now basically saying even 18 and over cannot give valid consent to engage in prostitution. a
No doubt this ONE Uzbekian girl was coerced or forced or threatened, and I am not surprised "russians" are involved somehow, but beyond that, the entire issue of "sex trafficking" has for years been utlizing made up stats created out of thin air (usually NGO created) and the Western mainstream media just reports them without questioning. For example in the USA, the FBI produced "statistics" on women trafficked into america use an amzing presumption - that any woman who arrives from anywhwer in Asia (example Korea) and is within 6 months working in the AMP bnusiness is presumed to be doing so aginast her will. Yes, total BS but that's how they produce the numbers, just use rediculous assumptions.
Another example (expect some fake numbers for the upcomig Brazil World cup in a few month) is the repetitiveclaims of trafficked women expected to be brought into the World Cup (soccer) and Super bowl (NFL football) each year they happen, Every single time the stats have proven to be total BS, and even the (politically correct) NFL all but admitted recently they were total BS, stats usually claiming 60, 000 "trafficked" women were due to arrive at Superbowl venues, yet they cannot never seem to find any "victims" except for an occassional 17 year old white trash girl brought in by a boyfriend. Its absolutely amazing how nonsensical these numbers are, yet the MSM each year dutifully reports the impending disaster.
[QUOTE=Western787; 1556316]One might ask. They make an entire documentary about THAT?
"Sex trafficking:" (or often used interchangeable with the term "sex slavery") does occur in certain case in certain locales throughout the world, but I am convinced after years at looking at these ginned up numbers they are at least 99% exaggerated.[/QUOTE]Here in Nepal, trafficking is a huge issue. Despite the horrors trafficking creates, the aid community commoditizes both the women and the industry in order to generate funding streams. I know a few genuine individuals working on the issue but unlike most in the anti-trafficking community, they are dead against using the terms interchangeably. One argues that "sex trafficking" also encompasses voluntary sex work, while slavery or forced sex work is another matter altogether. Eg, Plenty of providers willingly enter the industry, but have to be smuggled or trafficked over boarders. He also argues that co-mingling of these all these terms helps to create roadblocks to addressing issues that are mulch-faceted while at the same time provide bold declarations on the I / NGO community's part that tug at heart strings and pull in the Benjamins.
All of this supports your arguments to a certain extent. The numbers aren't as exaggerated as you think, but definitely are not painting the picture in an even, rational manner. What's more, the numbers are geographically uneven. The percentages are much higher in areas like South Asia, virtually close to 1% in areas like Bangkok, Singapore, etc.
A dialogue from an old movie I like involves a guy making an argument that there's just no way there are enough psychos and perverts around to account for all these missing persons in the US. So, the logical next step is to consider alien abduction or people slipping into time warps. Much the same for all this sensationalist media around trafficking. There's plenty going on, but how come so few non-journalists ever see it? There just aren't enough psychos around to account for these numbers.
[quote=thulolado; 1556493]here in nepal, trafficking is a huge issue. despite the horrors trafficking creates, the aid community commoditizes both the women and the industry in order to generate funding streams. i know a few genuine individuals working on the issue but unlike most in the anti-trafficking community, they are dead against using the terms interchangeably. one argues that "sex trafficking" also encompasses voluntary sex work, while slavery or forced sex work is another matter altogether. eg, plenty of providers willingly enter the industry, but have to be smuggled or trafficked over boarders. he also argues that co-mingling of these all these terms helps to create roadblocks to addressing issues that are mulch-faceted while at the same time provide bold declarations on the i / ngo community's part that tug at heart strings and pull in the benjamins.
all of this supports your arguments to a certain extent. the numbers aren't as exaggerated as you think, but definitely are not painting the picture in an even, rational manner. what's more, the numbers are geographically uneven. the percentages are much higher in areas like south asia, virtually close to 1% in areas like bangkok, singapore, etc.
a dialogue from an old movie i like involves a guy making an argument that there's just no way there are enough psychos and perverts around to account for all these missing persons in the us. so, the logical next step is to consider alien abduction or people slipping into time warps. much the same for all this sensationalist media around trafficking. there's plenty going on, but how come so few non-journalists ever see it? there just aren't enough psychos around to account for these numbers.[/quote]i've followed the sex trafficking" hysteria for a probably a decade, and i can assure you based upon the totality of the evidence. its 99% bs. now that said, to the extent it does exist, the perpretrators should be put in jail.
now i happen to see this link recentlk so i will post, but its consistent from what i found over years trying to substantiate these often wild claims the ngo's and government bureacrats are always making.
(the frauds and distortions in this area are incredible, and the link below links into some of the evidence, and i posted one atlanat journal constitution story in its entirely to give you an idea.
s[url]http://sextraffickingtruths.********.com/[/url]
trafficking victims fall through cracks of programs built on guesses, distortions.
by willoughby mariano.
the atlanta journal-constitution.
an atlanta police officer took the teen to the station because she looked so young. she was trembling when he found her. she wasn't wearing much.
the girl told investigators she was from arkansas and her journey to the streets of atlanta began when she climbed into the car of a relative's boyfriend. mariece sims and another man drove her to a texas hotel room and raped her, she said.
they left for mississippi, where sims told her to make money by having sex with men at a truck stop, court records said. in atlanta, he told her to do it again. he hit the girl when she did not make enough or tried to escape.
in the nine years since this girl walked the streets, the public has been told over and over again that hundreds of girls in metro atlanta meet her same fate every night. it's why this area is notorious as one of the nation's worst [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] hubs.
that reputation ignited a decade of efforts against what is described as modern-day slavery. now it is cause seeélèbre. nonprofits, religious groups and celebrities have joined the crusade, and politicians are pouring millions of tax dollars into the fight.
but an investigation by the atlanta journal-constitution found that the initiatives are based on facts and figures that, while preached as gospel and enshrined in legislation, are guesses or distortions. even the widespread belief that atlanta is one of the nation's child exploitation capitals stands on shaky ground. in this information vacuum, government officials have created programs that promise to find and help victims, but too often don't.
the ajc found:
• agencies have failed to keep accurate information that could tell them whether taxpayer-funded initiatives have been effective. participants in a $1 million program did not record basic information such as why a victim was in the system.
• state-backed attempts to track trafficking trends were not designed to be scientific, and national estimates are widely discredited.
• there is little proof that initiatives bring a significant percentage of traffickers to justice. special sweeps by local and federal task forces have turned up few exploiters. clients of a state program to combat the commercial sexual exploitation of children cooperated in only four convictions in its first two years.
• the program's clients struggle under its care. one-third of girls it took in during its first two years returned to prostitution, some coaxed back by their pimps. more than half of those placed in safe homes in fiscal year 2011 ran away.
despite the flaws, trafficking opponents have made some significant strides, and each rescued child is a victory.
'atlanta and georgia really are in the forefront of the usa, ' said kaffie mccullough, deputy director of youthspark, a fulton county juvenile justice nonprofit that fights child sex trafficking.
the legal system now takes the crime seriously. the legislature passed tough laws, and georgia established a statewide system to help girls who are victims of commercial sexual exploitation, noted former fulton juvenile court judge nina hickson, who is credited with starting atlanta's movement.
'i'm not totally saying these have all been successes. there have been disappointments. but a lot of good work is being done by a lot of good people, ' said hickson.
they face long odds, hickson and others said. programs close within years because funding dries up. inexperienced decision makers ignore the advice of front-line workers. victims dodge police by calling their pimps their 'boyfriends' and are beaten when they try to leave.
yet independent experts and federal authorities say that problems here and in other communities run deeper. poor accountability and bad data hobble the effort.
david finkelhor, director of the university of new hampshire's crimes against children research center, cautions against using any of the estimates to make policy.
'the data are very poor, and are not really to be relied upon for any conclusion, ' he said.
'facts' really estimates.
atlanta's anti-trafficking movement coalesced around the image of a 10-year-old girl, her ankles in shackles. it was november 2000, and the runaway was in juvenile court accused of prostitution. she was being kept in detention because there was nowhere else for her to go.
a series of stories in the ajc described how she and other girls sat in jail while their adult pimps went free. the problem was dire, and child advocates asked the justice department for money.
nationally 'an estimated 300, 000 victimized children' were 'living on the streets, ' the juvenile justice fund, now known as youthspark, said in an application for federal funds.
over the years, trafficking activists have repeated this and other grim statistics to decision-makers and before ballrooms full of potential donors and volunteers.
in 2005, the fbi added atlanta to its list of 14 field offices with the highest incidence of child prostitution or trafficking. an fbi official testifying in washington, d. c. cited law enforcement intelligence as well as information from the national center for missing & exploited children.
a study commissioned by a local anti-trafficking campaign came up with another bleak figure. research firm the schapiro group reported that 251 **** girls were being trafficked in georgia in august 2007. researchers cautioned, though, that the actual count could be closer to 400.
the governor's office for children and families agreed to take over funding for the research. from 2009 through this spring, it paid the schapiro group nearly $245, 000 to produce a regular count, which varied between 200 and 500. the results appeared on the agency's website.
now these alarming numbers appear in pamphlets, recent state legislation, and even on an anti-trafficking-themed tote bag passed out at a recent forum.
'240 girls were trafficked in georgia yesterday, ' the bag warns.
but a detailed look at the numbers shows that the most widely-used facts and figures are crude estimates, unsubstantiated, or inaccurate.
an fbi spokesman declined to explain why atlanta is a top trafficking city.
atlanta's size and location may well mean the metro area plays a big role in the trade, experts said. but while the fbi official said information from the national center for missing & exploited children helped the fbi develop its list, a center spokeswoman said it does not issue rankings.
in the absence of hard numbers, news articles and advocacy groups have claimed the title of the nation's [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] capital for wichita, kan, toledo, ohio, and baton rouge, la.
some widely-used 'facts' about the scope of trafficking misinterpret actual estimates.
for instance, the claim that 300, 000 minors are victims of commercial, sexual exploitation in the usa misquotes a 2001 estimate by university of pennsylvania researchers.
their report said that on the high side, these children are at risk – not actual victims. this includes runaways, children living in public housing and female gang members. critics warn the estimate may double-count kids who are part of multiple risk groups.
the study's authors emphasized they did not conduct a head count, and a better estimate would require more research.
other estimates of usa child victims range from fewer than 2, 000 to more than 2 million. the gap is so wide the numbers mean next to nothing.
'somewhere between there is the truth, but we don't know where, ' said mary a. finn, a professor at georgia state university and lead author of a report evaluating a major atlanta anti-trafficking effort.
figures on the trade's profitability and victims' average age have similar problems, yet officials continue to use them.
'they gain a life of their own, ' said ronald weitzer, a george washington university professor and expert on sex trafficking. 'they're repeated, recited and reproduced by the media and commentators and pretty soon become conventional wisdom, although the claims are way beyond what is warranted. '
as for the governor's office for children and families findings on child exploitation, scholars say they are fundamentally flawed. basic rules of research require that findings be verifiable and replicable.
these results aren't. the schapiro group released some, but not all, of its methodology to the ajc, saying it was proprietary.
the firm estimated the number of victims by surfing ads on the website craigslist, driving through high-prostitution neighborhoods, calling escort services and sitting in hotel lobbies counting what its observers think are **** call girls.
it multiplies that count by 0. 38. firm president beth schapiro said that's because her company's research showed that, conservatively, observers accurately guess a female in a sexually suggestive photo is **** about 38 percent of the time.
these reports are a waste of taxpayer money, weitzer said. the methodology is a guessing game.
'if i showed that report to anyone here in my department, they would laugh, ' he said.
numbers have power.
yet these numbers have incredible power. the schapiro group's count transformed child sex trafficking into a statewide crusade.
in 2001, georgia legislators changed state law to make the pimping of a child a felony instead of a misdemeanor. most headway took place on the local level.
angela's house, one of the nation's residential treatment homes for trafficked girls, opened in 2002. the six-bed safe house launched with $1 million in private and state funds.
two years later, the juvenile justice fund won a $1 million grant to raise awareness and to overhaul responses by service agencies and law enforcement.
in 2005, atlanta's then-mayor shirley franklin issued a thick research report outlining the problem. she followed up with the launch of the 'dear john' campaign to target johns and boost enforcement.
but the release of the schapiro group's 2007 data changed everything, said state sen. renee unterman, r-buford, a supporter of tougher laws against child prostitution.
'that's when i could go to the floor of the senate and say, 'did you know that 400 children are being prostituted on the streets of atlanta? ' unterman said.
in 2008, the legislature created a commission to study the commercial sex trafficking of children. legislation passed in 2009 added child prostitution to the forms of abuse teachers and others must report to authorities. that same year, the governor's office for children and families opened the georgia care connection office to coordinate victim treatment and other services.
it was 'the nation's first statewide response to address the needs of child sex trafficking victims, ' a 2010 news release said.
legislators toughened laws once more in 2011 and placed the georgia bureau of investigation in charge of child sex trafficking investigations.
on dec. 6, unterman and about a dozen lawmakers from other states took the cause to the white house. president obama's policy advisers wanted to know what they could do to help.
reality is messy.
the well-publicized advances belied a messy reality. mobilizing money and resources proved far easier than creating programs that find and help the exploited.
six nationwide anti-[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] sweeps dubbed 'operation cross country' recovered nine child victims in and around metro atlanta in six years, according to news accounts and fbi press releases.
angela's house closed when it came under new management. funding and referrals dried up, and the new provider felt the beds weren't needed because other safe houses had opened.
at a dec. 21 legislative committee meeting on [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url], gwinnett county district attorney danny porter complained that after years of efforts, policymakers know far less about the problem than they should. while the schapiro group's figures indicate the crime is widespread, porter said, his office rarely sees cases.
'we really haven't embarked on a process of finding out what we're dealing with, ' porter said.
it's unclear how many victims were helped by the $1 million awarded in 2004 to the juvenile justice fund.
the program began because 'serious overlaps and gaps' were causing children to fall through the cracks, advocates told the usa department of justice in a grant application.
one goal was to fill information gaps that keep victims from getting needed care and protection, the grant proposal said. participating agencies would meet regularly and install a case tracking database for victims of child sex trafficking and other abuse.
many fissures, however, remained, according to a $450, 000 federally-funded evaluation by georgia state university researchers. key agencies such as the division of family and children services failed to enter basic data into the system.
of 50 victims recorded in the child abuse database, only one entry said whether the pimp was arrested. of the 54 clients of angela's house. 29 were not in the database.
the agencies said they had other priorities. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] was rare compared to child beatings, sex abuse and neglect cases, said finn, the evaluation report's lead author.
'we found it was not even in the front fore lobe of their consciousness. they had to struggle to remember the last time a kid they saw brought this up, ' finn said.
whether the program improved victim care remained a mystery. there wasn't enough information, the report said.
deborah richardson, now executive vice president of the national center for civil and human rights, was executive director of the juvenile justice fund. she said gathering information was not its central goal.
'that was never the intent of the project, ' she said. 'it really was about system change. '
the change wasn't enough for victims.
their parents and guardians reported that police and courts were helpful. so was the counseling. but it did not stop the children from dropping out of school or running away.
the teens wondered whether their futures were any brighter.
'in general, there was no clear sense of whether or not youth felt that they had 'gotten better' or that they were somehow at the end of a process, ' the evaluation report said.
help often lacking.
years later, it's still not clear victims are getting better or that the government response has improved.
the georgia care connection office's goal is to help **** girls who are commercially sexually exploited, but its own data show a majority of its referrals were not victims at all.
the office reported that it received 400 referrals during its first three years of operation. about 190 were victims. that is fewer than six per month.
about 40 children were only 'at risk' of becoming prostitutes. yet they still joined the caseload of the seven-person office. the rest were referred to other agencies or did not complete screening.
the help it did give to victims often fell short, according to a 2011 evaluation the office commissioned.
during the office's first two years, about 35 percent of its 136 clients, all female, returned to prostitution while they were receiving state help.
thirty-eight were arrested, some more than once. twelve became pregnant.
pimps were rarely brought to justice. written statements from eight victims led to charges. only four exploiters were convicted, the report found.
katie jo ballard, executive director of the governor's office for children and families, cancelled an interview to discuss the program's performance. she stopped responding to repeated requests by email, telephone and in person to comment.
the evaluation report did contain success stories. one client ran away from a safe house, returned to her exploiter, became pregnant and got arrested. but with help of the office, it said, she returned to treatment, continued her education and reunited with her parents.
'without the focused approach of gcco, the hard-earned progress noted in this report would not exist, ' the report said.
experts who help women leave prostitution recognize that small victories are rare.
at the gcco, even the most dedicated clients stumbled as they tried to leave their old lives, said katrina owens, a trafficking survivor who worked for two years as a peer support worker.
the program directed survivors to mental health services, but exploiters remained free. they called the girls relentlessly or knocked on their doors, owens said.
some teens could not get needed help because their parents could not afford it. others lacked transportation to attend programs that they could afford.
girls balked at applying to college because their criminal histories could make them ineligible for federal financial aid. they failed to find work, and the cost of books was so high they were tempted to pay for them through stripping or prostitution, owens said.
she left the program after two years. though civic groups lined up to ask her to speak at luncheons and fund-raisers as statewide interest in sex trafficking climbed, she was becoming a token survivor, not someone with growing expertise.
'i feel the. movement here has become somewhat of a fad, ' owens said. 'that's the truth. once the dust settles, i'm curious to know who will still be standing up for the cause. '
meet the reporter.
willoughby mariano started at the ajc in 2010 as a reporter for the politifact georgia team. previously, she worked for the orlando sentinel in florida, where she covered criminal justice and wrote a blog that chronicled the lives of those affected by years of record-breaking murder rates. she is co-winner of a national headliner award in investigative journalism for her coverage of laborers at orlando theme parks and hotels who worked under conditions that amounted to indentured servitude. she was born in brooklyn, raised outside of chicago, and lives in east atlanta with her husband and cats.
how we got the story.
ajc reporter willoughby mariano looked into evidence that atlanta is a top [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] hub and discovered that it and other oft-repeated claims about the crime were unsubstantiated or incorrect. documents revealed through freedom of information act requests and other reporting showed that anti-trafficking programs in atlanta and across the nation struggle to find and help victims. she reviewed thousands of pages of internal government files, scholarly research, federal research reports, and court records for this story, and conducted dozens of interviews with lawmakers, academics, advocates, program organizers, members of law enforcement, and others.
Note sure if link works so reposting:[url]http://sextraffickingtruths.********.com/[/url]
(apparently nworks on explorer but not chrome, due to title i guess)
Note the exaggerations, falsehoods, anddistortions in regard to the issue "sex trafficking" are of such epic proportions that even one of the biggest BS artists on the planet, Al Gore would be proud.
By the way, get ready for the sex trafficking zealots and fanatics and NGO's to soon be making their wild and unsupportable "hordes of sex trafficking women to descend upon on the games" type claims in the regard to the upcoming World Cup. These crazy claims happen every time the event is held, and they never disappoint
The AJC article cite below was from Dec 31 2012 and here is a direct link:http://www.ajc.com/news/news/trafficking-victims-fall-through-cracks-of-program/nTjRf/
[quote=western787;1559192]the ajc article cite below was from dec 31 2012 and here is a direct link:http://www.ajc.com/news/news/trafficking-victims-fall-through-cracks-of-program/ntjrf/[/quote]interesting article, love the way they estimate the number of **** prostitutes by saying it's 38% i'd say that number was way, way over.
many years ago. 15 maybe, the bangkok post ran an article on child prostitution in thailand. this was just after a big crackdown forced the industry, if you could call it that, over the border to cambodia. interestingly they said that it was happening still in bkk, mainly with poor families selling their daughters. i'd heard that the shops were way down soi 60 70 odd and that it was a thai only area. foreigners were definitely not welcome in the area. another issue that highlighted was around that time, early 00's, pattaya was the lesbian **** capital.
i can believe the number of 1.5 million trafficked, but i'd guess that 80% of this is in india, nepal and bangladesh and a lot are for domestic slaves, rather than for the sex trade. this is of course guesswork on my part and having travelled a fair amount around the world, but my guess is probably about as accurate as the figures in the studies.
[quote=kerrstar; 1559327]interesting article, love the way they estimate the number of **** prostitutes by saying it's 38% i'd say that number was way, way over.
many years ago. 15 maybe, the bangkok post ran an article on child prostitution in thailand. this was just after a big crackdown forced the industry, if you could call it that, over the border to cambodia. interestingly they said that it was happening still in bkk, mainly with poor families selling their daughters. i'd heard that the shops were way down soi 60 70 odd and that it was a thai only area. foreigners were definitely not welcome in the area. another issue that highlighted was around that time, early 00's, pattaya was the lesbian **** capital.
i can believe the number of 1. 5 million trafficked, but i'd guess that 80% of this is in india, nepal and bangladesh and a lot are for domestic slaves, rather than for the sex trade. this is of course guesswork on my part and having travelled a fair amount around the world, but my guess is probably about as accurate as the figures in the studies.[/quote]think of a 3 card monte game, because the ngo's keep moving the cards around, for example they will intentionally use the terms "trafficking" "****" and "sex trafficking" interchangeably and mix in different classes of trafficked individuals to confuse matters, and keep funding going. the 1. 5 million sex trafficking number is complete nonsense, and its never been supported by anything happening on the ground, now that said, there are for example "trafficked" children used as beggars in india, but its not a sex trafficking thing, and thailand uses burmese and cambodians males (adult usually) construction workers, and there are abuses in regards to pay and working conditions and so forth, but the ngo's will purposely mix in different concept the produce their hysterical statistics. also the ngo's for years have refused to focus on the issue of gay males from wealthy countries coming to southeast asia to seek out **** 12 boys, in fact could well be the bulk of where the true trafficking has occurred, yet the ngo's tend to ignore it due the politically correct dogma that gays (percentage wise) don't seek out young boys any more (percentage wise) than straight men seek out young girls, which is absolute unequivocal bs. the boy scouts of america at one point would not allow gay scout leaders because they had 1000 damage (tort) cases filed against them. while most gay men do not molest young boys, the comparison numbers with heterosexual men is only a fraction of the problem. in the usa, for many years now the fbi (to gin up the stats) has a built in presumption in their sex trafficking numbersthat any woman immigrant arriving to the usa from certain asia countries (korea among others) if she is working in the amp business within 6 months of arrival, must be doing so against her will, and therefore is sexually trafficking, all complete bs of course. the ngo's even have invented a new terms called "self trafficked" basically meaning being both an adult and consenting is irrelevant
this statement is an example of the 3 card monte technique: "each year, around the world, millions of men, women and children are trafficked and exploited as forced or bonded laborers in factories, fisheries, fields, streets and brothels as part of a business that is raking in more than $30 billion in profits annually. southeast asia, where an estimated 200,000 to 400,000 people are trafficked each year, is a major hub for this thriving underworld. "http://www.viet-studies.info/kinhte/costs_of_human_trafficking.htm
the basic strategy to keep funding going 1. keep everything jumbled 2. the public won't' notice. 3 the msm will dutifully parrot it back 4. politicians like hillary clinton will hype it. 5. honest journalists will be shouted down and/or ignored.
(Wrongly Double posted)
If the numbers we read here and there are true and correct the streets would be flooded by non legal age sex workers.
If the numbers we read here and there about BKK, as an example with so many sex slaves, then how comes these girls do have long term bar fines, go back home for a while and then back to BKK, they go from one bar to the other, and so on? How can a sex slave do so?
They indeed invented the term "self-trafficking", so NGO can have a reason to survive.
NGO should look at themselves, see how prostitution expands when NGO's or UN's "invade a territory, take Haiti on the aftermath of the earthquake.
I briefly read the Atlanta report on the young girl hitting the streets for 9 years: wow. Efficient police activity if this (and others) have skipped their control, their knowledge. It didn't took much to a reporter to file the story, but a mission impossible for the police?
[QUOTE=BionicMan; 1559562]If the numbers we read here and there are true and correct the streets would be flooded by non legal age sex workers.
If the numbers we read here and there about BKK, as an example with so many sex slaves, then how comes these girls do have long term bar fines, go back home for a while and then back to BKK, they go from one bar to the other, and so on? How can a sex slave do so?
They indeed invented the term "self-trafficking", so NGO can have a reason to survive.
NGO should look at themselves, see how prostitution expands when NGO's or UN's "invade a territory, take Haiti on the aftermath of the earthquake.
I briefly read the Atlanta report on the young girl hitting the streets for 9 years: wow. Efficient police activity if this (and others) have skipped their control, their knowledge. It didn't took much to a reporter to file the story, but a mission impossible for the police?[/QUOTE]They use a newer term called "virtual slaves" but under that definition an average office worker could call him or herself a virtual slave needing rescue. Note in the documentary one of the rescuers said a decade back he worked saving animals, but note many of these alleged extinct species claims were eventually proved to be false, but the ginned up hysteria had its 30 year run. Now he rescues "trafficked" humans. He knows this new gig will have at least a 30 year run also like all these things with made up stats do, so it gives him a job. Lot of NGO types IMHO are wealthy western trust fund types anyways, always following the latest fad to convince themselves they are saving the world.
[QUOTE=Thulolado;1556493]All of this supports your arguments to a certain extent. The numbers aren't as exaggerated as you think, but definitely are not painting the picture in an even, rational manner. What's more, the numbers are geographically uneven. The percentages are much higher in areas like South Asia, virtually close to 1% in areas like Bangkok, Singapore, etc.[/QUOTE]Cambodia HAS had some problems, and yes I think problems are more prevalent in the extreme 3rd world countries, but even in Cambodia there all sorts of NGO hype and distorted facts, so (since the main link doesn't work very well) this is story is worth posting.
Once Coached for TV, Now Asked to Keep Quiet about Sex Trafficking Hoax.
By Simon Marks and Kuch Naren. November 4, 2013.
The woman who claims she was coached by global anti-sex trafficking advocate Somaly Mam to fabricate a story of sexual slavery for French television in 1998 says she has been approached by a Somaly Mam Foundation (SMF) staff member, who has begged her to stop talking to the media.
Meas Ratha. 32, revealed last month that as a young teenager she was selected by Ms. Mam to appear on the France 2 television channel in 1998 after undergoing rehearsals with a group of other young girls to falsely recount how she was sold to a brothel owner in Phnom Penh.
Days after her revelation was published on October 12, Meas Ratha said she received her first visit from the SMF staffer.
'There was a girl. Came to me begging with tears to stop speaking to the media. Of course whatever I told you was true—that I was filmed to lie to the world and that I was a victim even though I was not, ' Ms. Ratha said in a telephone interview on October 24.
'But now I can no longer speak, ' she said.
Ms. Ratha identified the visitor as Sina Vann, a longtime employee of the SMF in Cambodia and program manager for the organization's Voices for Change (VFC) program. The VFC program is run by SMF and aims at giving a voice to victims of sex trafficking in order to raise awareness about the issue.
The second visit by Ms. Vann was on October 23, said Ms. Ra*tha, adding that the SMF staff member had stressed that speaking out about her past could greatly damage the reputation of Ms. Mam's organization.
'She was not here to intimidate me. But she begged me and cried in front of me and said that it would be a disaster for the organization if I keep talking to the media. She also asked me not to talk to other journalists if they approached me, ' Ms. Ratha said.
'If I keep talking it will bring trouble to everyone: myself, the organization and you [journalists]. I used to stay inside the [SMF] organization so I want to help it, ' she said, adding that she would heed the call and no longer speak about the fabricated story from 1998.
Ms. Ratha, who is now a streetside food vendor to garment factory workers on the outskirts of Phnom Penh, said she was admitted to Afesip in 1997 because her family of nine was struggling to survive.
Her parents and sister—who also stayed with Ms. Ratha inside an Afesip training center—backed-up Ms. Ratha's claim that she was never enslaved as a prostitute inside a brothel in Phnom Penh.
Ms. Vann could not be contacted for comment.
Afesip CEO Sao Chhoeurth said on October 24 that he was not aware of any visit having been made to Ms. Ratha.
Hayle Welgus, policy and liaison manager for SMF in Cam*bodia, said Ms. Vann had not been sent by the organization in an official capacity.
'SMF hasn't sent Sina [Vann] in an official capacity so I need to speak to her to see if she visited on a personal level, ' Ms. Welgus said on October 24.
Contacted on Friday, Ms. Wel*gus declined to comment and re*ferred questions to the communications department at SMF.
Asked about Ms. Vann's alleged visit to Ms. Ratha, the SMF communication's department declined to comment.
'The statement that was sent to you previously is all that we have to share on this matter, ' the communications department at SMF said in an email.
The SMF communications department was referring to a statement in which Afesip said in October that it would not speculate on why Ms. Ratha had denied the story she had told France 2.
Afesip has also declined to say from which brothel Ms. Ratha had been allegedly rescued or to which department of the police her case of alleged enslavement and rescue had been filed.
Though Ms. Ratha insists the visit from the SMF's Ms. Vann was only beseeching, she admits that she is now unwilling to speak out about the truth behind her story due to any repercussions that could stem from harming Afesip's reputation in Cambodia.
After The Cambodia Daily reported its findings in October 2012 into the story of Long Pros, one of SMF's most publicized members of the Voices for Change program, the young woman's father, Long Hon, said he was paid a visit from Afesip staff who had also asked him to cease speaking to the media.
Ms. Pros had long told a horrific story of having an eye gouged out at the hands of a brothel owner. However, medical rec*ords show that Ms. Pros' eye was re*moved by an eye surgeon in hospital—the victim of a large benign tumor that covered one of her eyes for many years during childhood.
Ms. Pros was only sent to Afesip after undergoing her operation at the Takeo Eye Hospital, her parents said, a claim that was also confirmed by medical rec*ords and images obtained showing Ms. Pros' medically-removed eye.
While members of the SMF staff now appear reluctant for Ms. Ratha and the family of Ms. Pros to continue speaking to reporters, a huge amount of Ms. Mam's success and global fame stems from the highly public testimony and many media interviews conducted by the young women inside her organization who tell harrowing tales of sex trafficking.
The high-media profile of the SMF, and support from board members such as Facebook COO Sheryl Sandberg and Hollywood actress Susan Sarandon, has helped the foundation's revenues and expenditures rocket in recent years.
In 2011, the latest year for which figures are available, spending by the SMF increased to $3. 53 million. The SMF's annual fund*raising gala in New York on Oc*tober 23 was a star-studded event where tickets for some tables went for $100, 000.
Related Stories.
More Questions Over Somaly Mam's Kidnapping Claim A second former staff member of anti-trafficking organization Afesip has cast doubts over long-standing claims.
1. Police Deny Killings at Somaly Mam Center Police have strongly denied claims by Somaly Mam, the well-known president of local anti-trafficking organization.
2. Questions Raised Over Symbol's Slavery Story For years now, the scarred face of Long Pros has symbolized the depredation of sex.
3. Sex Slave Story Revealed to be Fabricated Meas Ratha was a teenager when she appeared on French television telling a tragic tale.
4. The Rise of the Somaly Mam Foundation Since its creation in 2007, the Somaly Mam Foundation has attracted top USA business leaders.
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[QUOTE=Western787;1559478]Think of a 3 card monte game, because the NGO's keep moving the cards around.[/QUOTE]Cogently and persuasively written. Thanks for taking the time to post.
Bunky
[quote=western787;1559478]think of a 3 card monte game, because the ngo's keep moving the cards around, for example they will intentionally use the terms "trafficking" "****" and "sex trafficking" interchangeably and mix in different classes of trafficked individuals to confuse matters, and keep funding going.[/quote]this trick is not limited to the ngos that work the sex traffic theme. i know something about ngos that deal with displaced people. these are like refugees, only they have remained within the boarders of their country. technically to be a refuge, one must be living on foreign soil. the ngos working with displaced people might describe an event, such as a civil war in one region of the country, and then site a huge number of displaced people in the country, leading one to believe all of these people have been displaced by the civil war. in fact the number of people displaced by the civil war may be small. the number sited is an estimate of the total number of displaced people in the country, most of whom are actually voluntary transients looking for work. i know some fine people working for excellent ngos. there are also scoundrels working for ngos that are really nothing more than a con game.
I was staying close to the Grand Hyatt last week and popped into Spasso's three times. Every time there were women from Africa. Twice there were two Colombians, Paula and Vanessa, both from Medellin. I actually went with Paula. She's fairly attractive, will ask for 6, 000 Baht for one hour and insist you either pay her up front or leave the money on the table. She has spent 5 years in Asia practicing her profession, and is somewhat jaded. Without sounding arrogant, given my suave, debonair looks and good Spanish, if anyone could have been able to soften her up it would be me, and I only got part way there. OK, just kidding about the suave, debonair part, but she really doesn't like her profession and that comes out.
Vanessa is bubbly, blonde, cute, and a lot more fun to talk to, but unfortunately a bit of a porker. Paula hasn't had any children, Vanessa has had one or two. Both are on the short side and physically could pass for Europeans or Americans. I initially thought Paula was Russian.
My guess is that you can find these two most nights in Spasso and/or Mixx. They tell me there are other Colombians like them in Bangkok, and you can find them at Mixx. That doesn't get started until about my bedtime though.
One thing that was interesting, apparently someone, I think a Colombian mafioso, paid for Paula's air ticket to Asia, and she had to pay it back with interest or she and/or her family would be in deep shit. She succeeded in doing that, but stays in Asia so she can send money home to her mother. She says she hasn't saved any herself. She's made the circuit, Hong Kong, Singapore, Thailand and China.
[QUOTE=Tiny 12;1565824]One thing that was interesting, apparently someone, I think a Colombian mafioso, paid for Paula's air ticket to Asia, and she had to pay it back with interest or she and/or her family would be in deep shit. She succeeded in doing that, but stays in Asia so she can send money home to her mother. She says she hasn't saved any herself. She's made the circuit, Hong Kong, Singapore, Thailand and China.[/QUOTE]And something tells me she's going to stay on the HK / SG / TH / CN circuit for a loooong time.
A "fairly attractive" Colombiana (now THAT'S being damned with faint praise) who demands $200USD per hour and has a bad attitude? I guess only in Asia. She certainly ain't going to rake in that kind of dough doing the circuit in Latin America.
[QUOTE=Phordphan; 1566011]And something tells me she's going to stay on the HK / SG / TH / CN circuit for a loooong time.
A "fairly attractive" Colombiana (now THAT'S being damned with faint praise) who demands $200USD per hour and has a bad attitude? I guess only in Asia. She certainly ain't going to rake in that kind of dough doing the circuit in Latin America.[/QUOTE]She wouldn't be one of the best lookers in any of the top hooker clubs in Colombian or Central American cities. But actually, on three nights, I only remember one Thai in Spasso's that looked better than she did. I can't entirely figure out the attraction of the place, unless like me you're staying in the Grand Hyatt or one of the nearby hotels. You can find much hotter women for half the price at places like Rainbow 4 and Baccara. I took one Thai woman from Spasso's, and she provided poor service. Paula, the Colombian, was pretty good by comparison.
May I know which soapies have a few Laotian and Burmese women? Poseidon, Colonze 2 and Alaina maybe?
[QUOTE=TigerCountry;1567844]May I know which soapies have a few Laotian and Burmese women? Poseidon, Colonze 2 and Alaina maybe?[/QUOTE]If I'm not mistaken, only Thai girls are allowed to work in the "entertainment" industry. While we all know that is not true in practice, I doubt if ithe soapies will advertise that fact and even the girls will perhaps not tell you, rather claiming that they live on the Thai side of the border.
Hey,
Been writing this on various forums no one seems to know what goes on in those dance bars.
I did once go up to 3rd and 4th floor I think of these clubs whose entrance were just elevators.
This club was if you walk from Sukumvit towards grace hotel 4-5th shop on the right.
I sat there saw absolute stunners, who sat at tables and would be invited to dance and these guys would throw money at her.
I manager got me a drink and asked if I like but as I felt out of place I was to out of sorts to even ask what's the game and limits.
Anyone any clues.
I only ask as I found them so well dressed and so beautiful.
[QUOTE=GlobalSurfer;1471063]Try Arab restaurants between Sukhumvit and Grace Hotel. I can't remember the name but I think if you walk from Sukhumvit on Soi 3 towards Grace hotel, take first right and immediately on the corner is an Indian restaurant. You may find mostly Uzbek (sometimes pretending to be Arab there or rarely a genuine Arab there. If you walk further in the same street there is a very busy Arab restaurant at the corner on left. I met a Jordanian there.
Please note that I am not Arab and cannot speak Arabic. However, I think in the first one were Uzbek pretending to be Arab (guessed from their height and colour) and the Arab restaurant was probably genuine Arab.
Quality is not good and you can easily negotiate from BHT 1000 to BHT 2000.
However, for Arab girls probably your best option is Morocco. (probably Arab speaking North Africans)[/QUOTE]
Gents,
Climax, CM2 all were the club of past. Just go to SHOCK39 Disco plenty of foreign birds. Enjoyed 3 some for 3 consecutive days.
[QUOTE=Gulfcruise;1599346]Gents,
Climax, CM2 all were the club of past. Just go to SHOCK39 Disco plenty of foreign birds. Enjoyed 3 some for 3 consecutive days.[/QUOTE]The foreign birds all come with an attitude and demand B5000 for an overnighter. Too many restrictions on services performed. Friendly disposition at the club but once you enter the hotel room and start to get into the action, the real color shows off. I prefer to go with the locals for baht 2000 who provide you the service with a smile.
Z.
Russian hookers? Mixx club in Bangkok:
[URL]https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/10299081_707094049352742_671235265568778562_n.jpg[/URL]
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1604574]Russian hookers? Mixx club in Bangkok:
[URL]https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/10299081_707094049352742_671235265568778562_n.jpg[/URL][/QUOTE]I'd be willing to bet a fair amount of money the girls in the picture are civilians. "Russian" hookers in Bangkok don't look like that. One outlier, I could understand, but three in a group? Difficult to believe.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1604574]Russian hookers? Mixx club in Bangkok:
[URL]https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/10299081_707094049352742_671235265568778562_n.jpg[/URL][/QUOTE]For all we know they could be the daughters of the Russian Ambassador.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1604781]For all we know they could be the daughters of the Russian Ambassador.[/QUOTE]Brilliant!
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1604670]I'd be willing to bet a fair amount of money the girls in the picture are civilians. "Russian" hookers in Bangkok don't look like that. One outlier, I could understand, but three in a group? Difficult to believe.[/QUOTE]So far one person thinks they're hookers, one thinks they're not regular hookers but available for a price which makes them a kind of hooker, and then there's your opinion.
How do "Russian" hookers look. They never gather in groups as large as three? Any idea of the nationality of a fourth girl, on the far left in the background, holding something in her hand.
Did CM2 or other venues never have "Russian" hookers that look like that? I seem to recall reports of some of them being very hot, though without pics it's impossible to say if they'd match up or be my cup of tea.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1604781]For all we know they could be the daughters of the Russian Ambassador.[/QUOTE]Would that stop you.
Not being able to speak for everyone, I'm waiting for someone who actually knows or has a clue.
CM2.
2013.
I don't know about hotel but this bar is very attractive since you mostly see European girls and middle eastern men.
Girls here are also higher level and more expensive than go-go bars in Bangkok maybe because richer men go over there.
There isn't a lot of dancing there and mostly girls over there are prostitutes and men are picking them, but overall it's a good place esp if you are tired of just Thai girls.
2014.
Has closed.
[URL]http://www.tripadvisor.com.sg/Attraction_Review-g293916-d1759694-Reviews-Concept_CM2-Bangkok.html[/URL]
Mixx.
If you go to this club to have a dance you'll be disappointed. Poor music, awful sound, chain smoking men and women. Sex workers and clients. The place has two dance floors and nobody except us was dancing.
Most (but not ALL) of the female customers are 'working'.
Anyone who has been inside Mixx will have seen it's a very multi-cultural place. There are white, black, Asian and Arab guests.
Most of ladies there are working woman. Thai, Russian and Columbian.
Definitely a 'who's who' of the Bangkok expat crowd, but with lots of sketchy Russian mafia types.
70-80% of the girls there are pros.
The smoking section of the club is patronised by a lot of Russian ladies of dubious occupation.
As with most clubs that westerners frequent in Thailand there's a high percentage of prostitutes there and even the ones who aren't will ask you for money for services rendered.
La musique est terrible.
[URL]http://www.tripadvisor.com.sg/Attraction_Review-g293916-d4463396-Reviews-Mixx_discotepque-Bangkok.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1604960]How do "Russian" hookers look. They never gather in groups as large as three? Any idea of the nationality of a fourth girl, on the far left in the background, holding something in her hand.
Did CM2 or other venues never have "Russian" hookers that look like that? [/QUOTE]In Thailand, almost 95% are rather worn out. Think about it, if you're a top 5% looker (as girls in the picture are) why go from Moscow (one of the world's most expensive cities) to Bangkok (one of the world's cheapest, for hooker prices too) to be a prostitute? Those 3 girls could *easily* pull $200-$500 per night in Moscow clubs, with none of the visa hassles and risks of being in Thailand.
Again, it's uncommon, but not impossible to find 1 stray good looking Russian prostitute. But 3? Very unlikely.
Let's put it like this: let's go to Mixx together, show me those 3 together so we can make sure they're working girls and I'll gladly pay your 4000 baht to take out one of them, and take the second one for myself. (if not, just pay me 500 baht for the entry fee and cab fare). Yes, I'm that sure.
BTW, most of the "Russian" prostitutes in Bangkok are not even Russian, but Central Asian (Uzbek and such).
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1606494]In Thailand, almost 95% are rather worn out. Think about it, if you're a top 5% looker (as girls in the picture are) why go from Moscow (one of the world's most expensive cities) to Bangkok (one of the world's cheapest, for hooker prices too) to be a prostitute? Those 3 girls could *easily* pull $200-$500 per night in Moscow clubs, with none of the visa hassles and risks of being in Thailand.
BTW, most of the "Russian" prostitutes in Bangkok are not even Russian, but Central Asian (Uzbek and such).[/QUOTE]I would think the girl on the left would easily get a long standing arrangement of a sugar daddy in Moscow that would be six figures, she is simply stunning IMHO. I used to drink at a bar in Singapore with Russian pole dancers (not P4 P girls) and they were pretty good looking, but these three are even better.
I've got no doubt these are not hookers, more likely professional models brought in for a photoshoot to promote the club. All three are very photogenic and the pic is too professional for a phone camera.
[QUOTE=Kerrstar;1606580]I would think the girl on the left would easily get a long standing arrangement of a sugar daddy in Moscow that would be six figures, she is simply stunning IMHO. I used to drink at a bar in Singapore with Russian pole dancers (not P4 P girls) and they were pretty good looking, but these three are even better.
I've got no doubt these are not hookers, more likely professional models brought in for a photoshoot to promote the club. All three are very photogenic and the pic is too professional for a phone camera.[/QUOTE]Back then, there's really some Russian women in South East Asia, but usually from the Asian parts of Rusia (cities like Vladivostok or Khabarovsk). Maybe it; s closer to go to Jakarta / KL / Bangkok / S'pore, than go to Moscow. But nowadays (in Jakarta especially) no more, just Usbek girls (some have Russian blood).
BTW, where in Singapore we can see Russian pole dancers?
[QUOTE=Kerrstar;1606580]I would think the girl on the left would easily get a long standing arrangement of a sugar daddy in Moscow that would be six figures, she is simply stunning IMHO. I used to drink at a bar in Singapore with Russian pole dancers (not P4 P girls) and they were pretty good looking, but these three are even better.
I've got no doubt these are not hookers, more likely professional models brought in for a photoshoot to promote the club. All three are very photogenic and the pic is too professional for a phone camera.[/QUOTE]Agreed. Not hookers.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1606494]In Thailand, almost 95% are rather worn out. Think about it, if you're a top 5% looker (as girls in the picture are) why go from Moscow (one of the world's most expensive cities) to Bangkok (one of the world's cheapest, for hooker prices too) to be a prostitute? Those 3 girls could *easily* pull $200-$500 per night in Moscow clubs, with none of the visa hassles and risks of being in Thailand.
BTW, most of the "Russian" prostitutes in Bangkok are not even Russian, but Central Asian (Uzbek and such).[/QUOTE]There could be many issues related to why certain non Russian "Russians" of former Russian colonies travel to BKK instead of trying to work in Moscow venues. Bangkok may be much easier. The "Russian" competition amongst Russians in Bangkok will certainly be far less than in Russia. In Bangkok they will be much more of a unique treasure, especially if they are hot and are real "Russians" from Russia. BTW did you notice the comments re Mixx from TA spoke of Russian mafia / pimps there.
In Bangkok there are many guys from all over the world with large amounts of disposable income. Even NCP girls I know have allegedly recieved 6 figure Baht amounts for a few days to 2 weeks of being someone's "company", but I'm sure the girl on the right has much more pussy power than them, good for 6000 Baht ST and 10 K LT, at least, which is about what you quoted for Moscow.
The other 2 girls don't interest me so much. The middle one I wouldn't take for free, as she reminds me of Tony Romo's ex, & go for this lady instead:
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More foreign girls at Mixx:
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The best activities for your health are pumping and humping -Arnold Schwarzenegger-.
[QUOTE=Hbengkok;1606585]BTW, where in Singapore we can see Russian pole dancers?[/QUOTE]Club Romeos in Orchard Towers. They have Russian Pole dancers and Thai ladyboys, but it's pretty easy to tell the difference. The LB's will leave you alone once they realise you're there for the Russians and not them. Another bar (can't remember the name) on the same level across and in the corner also has Russians as well as the usual P4 P girls from Indo, Phil, Viet, etc. I left Sing at the start o the year so things may have changed at this bar but Romeos is still going, a mate was there a few weeks ago.
"Russian booboos, you go for some basic foreplay, they'll detail your car."
Is there still plenty of girls from Soviet bloc in Phuket or has that been shut down?
Those foreign working girls (most of them are from the former Soviet Union countries) don't last long in Thailand.
They may stay in Thailand for about 6 months-12 months, and then they move on to the next destination to work.
It's like they are having "working holiday tour" around Asia.
When those girls from poor countries start to have a taste of the feeling of earning quick and easy money (maybe 3000-10000 Baht in just one day), they also start to spend money at will and waste most of their money on lots of unnecessary stuff.
They indulge themselves in this kind of lifestyle (earn quick and easy money, and spend most of them immediately).
So, after the "working holiday tour" ends, they usually still have nothing.
Sad, pathetic, but real.
What's more, there are also mongers who fall in love with the foreign working girls. The girls left the mongers without a trace (maybe they go back home), after taking a large amount of money form the mongers.
As a monger, I always remind myself not to make that kind of mistake, when I feel that I am going to fall in love with some working girls I really like.
[QUOTE=SoloTraveler;1615812]Those foreign working girls (most of them are from the former Soviet Union countries) don't last long in Thailand.
They may stay in Thailand for about 6 months-12 months, and then they move on to the next destination to work.
It's like they are having "working holiday tour" around Asia.
When those girls from poor countries start to have a taste of the feeling of earning quick and easy money (maybe 3000-10000 Baht in just one day), they also start to spend money at will and waste most of their money on lots of unnecessary stuff.
They indulge themselves in this kind of lifestyle (earn quick and easy money, and spend most of them immediately).
So, after the "working holiday tour" ends, they usually still have nothing.
Sad, pathetic, but real.
What's more, there are also mongers who fall in love with the foreign working girls. The girls left the mongers without a trace (maybe they go back home), after taking a large amount of money form the mongers.
As a monger, I always remind myself not to make that kind of mistake, when I feel that I am going to fall in love with some working girls I really like.[/QUOTE]Isn't it so that many of these foreign working girls are part of an organization that collects the major part of their earnings?
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1615848]Isn't it so that many of these foreign working girls are part of an organization that collects the major part of their earnings?[/QUOTE]In Bangkok, I guess "working girls coming to Bangkok by themselves, and have no pimps or organizations behind them" compose 30% of the foreign working girls in Bangkok.
"working girls coming to Bangkok by the support of pimps or organizations behind them, and the pimps or organization take a large part of the working girls' income" compose 70% of the foreign working girls in Bangkok.
Yes, you're right, most of them (70% of them) do have pimps or organizations behind them.
The pimps or organizations will take away a large part of their income (50%-80%) as their evil pimp commission.
I have met both kinds of working girls (with pimps & without pimps) in Bangkok.
Normally, it's difficult to tell whether the girl has pimps or not, unless the girl totally trust you and is willing to tell you the truth.
I've heard lots of different stories.
I guess some stories are true, while some stories are over-exaggerated and made-up by the girls, because they want the mongers to feel sorry for them and therefore give them more money.
For example, I recently met a working girl form Uzbekistan.
After I fucked her for few times, she started to tell me how sad and pathetic her life was (something like she's a single mom with a kid, her husband left them, etc). She said that she have to pay her pimp 4000 USA Dollars (approximately 120000 Thai Baht; I don't know why they use USA Dollars as their currency), and then the pimp would provide her a flight ticket and allow her to go back home.
She wanted me to give her 120000 Thai Baht. Of course, I refused and sent her away.
I guess some part of her story may be true (The single mom part).
However, some part of her story may be over-exaggerated and made-up (The 4000 USA Dollars /120000 Thai Baht part).
First, if she's so desperate to pay off 4000 USA Dollars /120000 Thai Baht to her pimp to buy her own freedom, she should live a frugal life and save every Baht she earned.
When I was her, I observed that she was actually living a very comfortable and easy life. She spent her money on lots of useless stuff, and she even gave generous tips to the waiters / waitresses when we went to a restaurant together.
She didn't look like she was trying to save money and pay off her pimp. That's why I don't believe her story.
I decided not to call or meet her anymore.
Any idea if there are foreign sex workers in Pattaya and, if yes, in what area they can be found? I don't mean girls from Laos or Cambodia, I mean Arabs or Russian for example.
[QUOTE=Caino;1621875]Any idea if there are foreign sex workers in Pattaya and, if yes, in what area they can be found? I don't mean girls from Laos or Cambodia, I mean Arabs or Russian for example.[/QUOTE]If I remember well, there is (was?) an agogo club near the entrance of Walking Street that had a "Russian" (more probably someone from one of the *stan republics) poledancer in the upstairs window. I never went in as I'm not interested in this type of women. Rumour and reports have it that they are expensive and their service is not as expected for the price they command.
On the road to Jomtien there is a whole "Arab" quarter. More correctly it is a Muslim area with their typical restaurants and hotels. Whether they also serve "Arab" girls I have no idea. But I did spot the more chubby type of girls walking around which seems to be more to the liking of our Muslim brethren.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1622169]If I remember well, there is (was?) an agogo club near the entrance of Walking Street that had a "Russian" (more probably someone from one of the *stan republics) poledancer in the upstairs window. [/QUOTE]I think the agogo club with Russians (CIS) is a little towards the middle of WS, next to the boxing area. They stand out like a sore thumb, with so many thai around, having a couple of Russian hello guys (as opposed to hello girls).
Also, there are a couple of rip off agogo Russian joints in Phuket as well (Moulin Rouge).
There are 2 places in Walking Street. Moulin Rouge and Galaxy on the First Floor on the right side next to Pier Disco.
Both are a rip off and not worth the experience if you have seen similar women inDubai or Europe. You can just get a lap dance for about 1000 Bhat. There is also a club at the end of waling street called Mask Club you can try your luck there.
[QUOTE=Caino;1621875]Any idea if there are foreign sex workers in Pattaya and, if yes, in what area they can be found? I don't mean girls from Laos or Cambodia, I mean Arabs or Russian for example.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1622247]I think the agogo club with Russians (CIS) is a little towards the middle of WS, next to the boxing area. They stand out like a sore thumb, with so many thai around, having a couple of Russian hello guys (as opposed to hello girls).[/QUOTE]Yes you maybe right. I did not particularly gave them much attention, so I may be some distance off. And anyhow I have "long legs" (says my Thai GF), so my "entrance" of WS may be someone else's "middle".
[QUOTE=Flyte137;1622299]There are 2 places in Walking Street. Moulin Rouge and Galaxy on the First Floor on the right side next to Pier Disco.
Both are a rip off and not worth the experience if you have seen similar women inDubai or Europe. [/QUOTE]Totally agree. As I spent several years in Russia and Ukraine, just because of curiosity, and for comparison, I went into one of the Russian clubs on WS, upstairs. To keep it short: 3rd class girls for 1st class prices. Just a huuuuge ripoff.
In case of real interest (and some balls), go to Kiev for a week or two. Low season prices now.
[QUOTE=Flyte137;1622299]There are 2 places in Walking Street. Moulin Rouge and Galaxy on the First Floor on the right side next to Pier Disco.
Both are a rip off and not worth the experience if you have seen similar women inDubai or Europe. You can just get a lap dance for about 1000 Bhat. There is also a club at the end of waling street called Mask Club you can try your luck there.[/QUOTE]Thanks yes I remember those two places and actually they never really attracted me. I have never heard of the Mask Club before, I might try it as soon as I have the chance to.
[QUOTE=SoloTraveler;1615935]I observed that she was actually living a very comfortable and easy life. She spent her money on lots of useless stuff, and she even gave generous tips to the waiters / waitresses, ..That's why I don't believe her story.[/QUOTE]Whats useless to one may be necessary to another, often the poor tip more than the rich. More on topic, in comparison with Dubai, theres not the quantity, but I've certainly found some quality in Bangkok. I'ld compare Dubai clubs like York and Jockeys to Bangclub clubs Bossy and Shock. Theres one particular stunning brunette in Bossy who would earn 3 times her rate in Dubai. No where in Dubai is there the great set up of Rajah hotel in Bangkok. The girls wait together in rooms and offer 100 us per hour. Dubai is twice the price and more. There are several stunning girls at Rajah that I'ld compare to upmarket club Premiere in Dubai. You may not always see them as there popular and they work there own hours. Luckily I stumbled accross them. Ask for Honey or Anya and your see what I mean. Another key thing Bangkok has over Dubai is theres a few Thai girls there, and ultimately Bangkok is way cheaper to live and eat, and as a country I'ld say far happier and free. Buddha is a little less uptight than Alllah). Some EE girls much prefer the lifestyle of Thailand. Their lifestyle in Dubai is severely limited by absurd laws. Personaly I'ld agree with them there, from where I come from. I don't see any worthwhile lifestyle in Dubai. Dubai just wins by numbers of EE girls. Cheers Nickc.
Can someone please tell me how it works to pick up a girl for incall or outcall at Rajah?
I have been there couple of times but could not make sense of it. The restaurant is empty during day time, in the evening I saw a group of Russians and Stanis sitting together in restaurant but only briefly. Mostly there was no one in restaurent after 8 pm.
So how does one go about it?
[QUOTE=Margaya;1623569]Can someone please tell me how it works to pick up a girl for incall or outcall at Rajah?
I have been there couple of times but could not make sense of it. The restaurant is empty during day time, in the evening I saw a group of Russians and Stanis sitting together in restaurant but only briefly. Mostly there was no one in restaurent after 8 pm.
So how does one go about it?[/QUOTE]
You take the elevator upstairs, that's where the girls are. The pimps will explain the rest. Usually, there is a pimp by the elevator to take you up, if not, you can just go up yourself (if you don't know the exact floor, guess, then go down, you'll find it). There are several (3-4) open-door display rooms with 4-5 girls in each.
The usual deal is 1 shot on the premises for 2500-3000 baht all-in. They might quote higher, negotiating is OK since their customers are often Arabs / Indians, but you won't get a very steep discount just a few hundred baht.
Ah! I didn't know that and wondered on my previous trips where the action is.
I guess action (availability and quantity / quality) usually starts in the evening or is it a all day all you can eat (spend. LOL) buffet?
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1623684]You take the elevator upstairs, that's where the girls are. The pimps will explain the rest. Usually, there is a pimp by the elevator to take you up, if not, you can just go up yourself (if you don't know the exact floor, guess, then go down, you'll find it). There are several (3-4) open-door display rooms with 4-5 girls in each.
The usual deal is 1 shot on the premises for 2500-3000 baht all-in. They might quote higher, negotiating is OK since their customers are often Arabs / Indians, but you won't get a very steep discount just a few hundred baht.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Nickc;1623389]Whats useless to one may be necessary to another, often the poor tip more than the rich. More on topic, in comparison with Dubai, theres not the quantity, but I've certainly found some quality in Bangkok. I'ld compare Dubai clubs like York and Jockeys to Bangclub clubs Bossy and Shock. Theres one particular stunning brunette in Bossy who would earn 3 times her rate in Dubai. No where in Dubai is there the great set up of Rajah hotel in Bangkok. The girls wait together in rooms and offer 100 us per hour. Dubai is twice the price and more. There are several stunning girls at Rajah that I'ld compare to upmarket club Premiere in Dubai. You may not always see them as there popular and they work there own hours. Luckily I stumbled accross them. Ask for Honey or Anya and your see what I mean. Another key thing Bangkok has over Dubai is theres a few Thai girls there, and ultimately Bangkok is way cheaper to live and eat, and as a country I'ld say far happier and free. Buddha is a little less uptight than Alllah). Some EE girls much prefer the lifestyle of Thailand. Their lifestyle in Dubai is severely limited by absurd laws. Personaly I'ld agree with them there, from where I come from. I don't see any worthwhile lifestyle in Dubai. Dubai just wins by numbers of EE girls. Cheers Nickc.[/QUOTE]Nickc,
Thanks for your information.
Yeah, I agree that Rajah Hotel is the fastest and easiest way to fuck women of European race in Bangkok.
I am an East Asian living in East Asia.
I was far more excited and far more horny to see a normal-looking European grandma than to see a super-hot Asian young model.
My Bangkok trip ended up to be a joke in my life, which I am so embarrassed to report it on the Internet til now.
During my 7-day vacation in Bangkok, I fucked 10 European working women and 2 Thai working women totally. I was in Bangkok. And I was looking for European working women desperately there.
I was paying 3000 Thai Baht (for Short time) to 7000 Thai Baht (for Long time) to have sex with normal-looking and sometimes mid-aged Russian / Ukrainian / Uzbekistan freelancers in Bangkok!
LOL! I still couldn't stop laughing at myself until now.
[QUOTE=Margaya;1623830]Ah! I didn't know that and wondered on my previous trips where the action is.
I guess action (availability and quantity / quality) usually starts in the evening or is it a all day all you can eat (spend. LOL) buffet?[/QUOTE]I guess they start to run their business after 7 pm.
I always went there after 7 pm.
There will be pimps hanging around the entrance. Just make eye contact with them, and they will lead you and introduce everything for you.
I was always quoted for 3100 Thai Baht. Some guys said they paid only 2600 Thai Baht after bargained with the pimps over the price.
So, I guess, if they desperate for business and you bargain with the pimps over the price, maybe you can save up to 500 Thai Baht by doing so.
The Ebola thing is a worry, at first I put it down to sensationalism, other peoples problems, or been there before and it got sorted (sort of) now, it does seem it is a matter of time before the first African hooker or scammer / tourist, imports that little nasty, and the whole business as usual 'mai bpen rai' thing at the borders here means it is almost a given.
One feverish Ebola victim strolling down on Sukhumvit Rd, Patpong Market, or Walking Street, Pattaya could likely be the catalyst that sends it spiraling out of control. 21 days later. Globally, and in Thailand itself.
Given the fear factor, and the level of care needed to contain the contamination, the virus could quite easily reach a tipping point, or unstoppable mass anywhere on the planet where they have scant resources, and are generally disorganized, and a little too laid back, (AKA here) within six months.
[QUOTE=SoloTraveler;1628355]
Yeah, I agree that Rajah Hotel is the fastest and easiest way to fuck women of European race in Bangkok.
I am an East Asian living in East Asia.
I was far more excited and far more horny to see a normal-looking European grandma than to see a super-hot Asian young model.
My Bangkok trip ended up to be a joke in my life, which I am so embarrassed to report it on the Internet til now.
During my 7-day vacation in Bangkok, I fucked 10 European working women and 2 Thai working women totally. I was in Bangkok. And I was looking for European working women desperately there.
I was paying 3000 Thai Baht (for Short time) to 7000 Thai Baht (for Long time) to have sex with normal-looking and sometimes mid-aged Russian / Ukrainian / Uzbekistan freelancers in Bangkok!
LOL! I still couldn't stop laughing at myself until now.
I was always quoted for 3100 Thai Baht. Some guys said they paid only 2600 Thai Baht after bargained with the pimps over the price.
So, I guess, if they desperate for business and you bargain with the pimps over the price, maybe you can save up to 500 Thai Baht by doing so.[/QUOTE]I am not here to diss you for this, but unless you really have a financial problem, why not spend a little more and holiday in Germany next time and have an incredible FKK experience. I took my Chinese / Aussie buddy to an FKK and to Pascha, in Cologne (the worlds biggest brothel) in 2012 and HE is still saying it is the best experience HE ever had, plus we did some really cool regular tourist things in Berlin.
There are cheaper countries too such as Bulgaria, where English is widely spoken (compared to say Portugal). And they have many other stunning and still little known attractions, including super hot girls. Portugal have highway hookers who will do you in your hire car starting at 20 Euros, this is not an exaggeration, I lived in Portugal for 8 months last year, they are everywhere on the smaller country roads in Summer. It's not a big monger country, as such, but an example that you can have a relatively cheap holiday in Europe and still bang reasonable girls for LESS than in BKK. The best way to do this is hire a MPV or even campervan which you and a wingman can use as a 'bangbus' also sleep in it at night, and use the caravan parks all over Europe for showering, and secure parking at night, perfect!
Bottom line, why come to BKK at all if Euro girls are your thing, unless you are too broke for a European trip, or simply have to eat Asian food 24/7 or you'll die, trust me you won't. :-)
[QUOTE=OliverKitsoff;1632859]Bottom line, why come to BKK at all if Euro girls are your thing, unless you are too broke for a European trip, or simply have to eat Asian food 24/7 or you'll die, trust me you won't. :-)[/QUOTE]If Russians are your thing, the USD is worth about 50 percent more rubles than it did in 2011 and 25 percent more since a year ago. It is now at 1 USD to 41 rubles compared to around 32 and 28 rubles at those earlier dates. So much more value & bang for your buck, eh?
[QUOTE=OliverKitsoff;1632856]The Ebola thing is a worry, at first I put it down to sensationalism, other peoples problems, or been there before and it got sorted (sort of) now, it does seem it is a matter of time before the first African hooker or scammer / tourist, imports that little nasty, and the whole business as usual 'mai bpen rai' thing at the borders here means it is almost a given.[/QUOTE]I think the risks are much much higher in airports such as Heathrow, Paris CDG or even Brussels. Someone infected but not yet showing any sign of this infection would pass unnoticed and unchallenged there and might die a few weeks later in the middle of rush hour on the Undergound or Metro.
And although ebola is far less infectuous than many other diseases (every ebola-carrier will infect on the average "only" two other people) that is already far too much.
I don't think there are that many direct flights from Africa to BKK that we should particularly worry about it.
[QUOTE=OliverKitsoff;1632856]The Ebola thing is a worry, at first I put it down to sensationalism, other peoples problems, or been there before and it got sorted (sort of) now, it does seem it is a matter of time before the first African hooker or scammer / tourist, imports that little nasty, and the whole business as usual 'mai bpen rai' thing at the borders here means it is almost a given.
One feverish Ebola victim strolling down on Sukhumvit Rd, Patpong Market, or Walking Street, Pattaya could likely be the catalyst that sends it spiraling out of control. 21 days later. Globally, and in Thailand itself.
Given the fear factor, and the level of care needed to contain the contamination, the virus could quite easily reach a tipping point, or unstoppable mass anywhere on the planet where they have scant resources, and are generally disorganized, and a little too laid back, (AKA here) within six months.[/QUOTE]All this talk about Ebola is nothing but fear mongering. I wouldn't worry about none of it since Its in primarily in Africa. Dont get suckered by the media. Its NOT a pandemic.
[QUOTE=MeatMan;1633154]All this talk about Ebola is nothing but fear mongering. I wouldn't worry about none of it since Its in primarily in Africa. Dont get suckered by the media. Its NOT a pandemic.[/QUOTE]While I agree that Ebola is primarily in Africa and that it is NOT a pandemic, that does not complete the rest of the narrative, which is that it is not a pandemic YET and without huge intervention the virus will not be staying in Africa.
I think that Thailand is time wise further away from Ebola in all sorts of senses than other countries, such as many Western countries. You only have to look at the air traffic between Africa and certain countries to see this.
The USA does not plough in large amounts of cash into small African countries for nothing. They want to slow the local epidemic down so as to slow the international transmission down too. The health specialists (WHO and others) no doubt realise that in the early days of Ebola they dropped the ball by thinking it was just something that happens in Africa and is easily contained in villages that were largely self-sufficient anyway. But when Ebola got into cities where people need to go to the market for food, where there is large scale travel, including international travel, the terms of the game changed.
The concern now is that if the authorities in a Western country had to shut down human interaction because of an Ebola epidemic, the economy would tank in such as way as to make the events of 2008 look mild.
All right, thanks a lot for clarifications about action starting after 7 pm.
I guess MPs are the only place to have some day time fun.
[QUOTE=SoloTraveler;1628355]Nickc,
Thanks for your information.
Yeah, I agree that Rajah Hotel is the fastest and easiest way to fuck women of European race in Bangkok.
I am an East Asian living in East Asia.
I was far more excited and far more horny to see a normal-looking European grandma than to see a super-hot Asian young model.
My Bangkok trip ended up to be a joke in my life, which I am so embarrassed to report it on the Internet til now.
During my 7-day vacation in Bangkok, I fucked 10 European working women and 2 Thai working women totally. I was in Bangkok..[/QUOTE]
Thursday night was at Shock39 and then Bossy hunting for some gorgeous foreign pussy.
Was totally disappointed at both venues. The talent was of poor quality and nothing impressed me. Walked out empty handed.
Where have all the beauties gone? I used to be a regular at CM2 and the talent there was stunning!! Really miss the place.
Would appreciate any recent reports from Climax and Levels!
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1633096]I think the risks are much much higher in airports such as Heathrow, Paris CDG or even Brussels. Someone infected but not yet showing any sign of this infection would pass unnoticed and unchallenged there and might die a few weeks later in the middle of rush hour on the Undergound or Metro.[/QUOTE]An infected sex worker could easily infect dozens of people. In turn those people could easily infect a number of other sex workers and the thing could quickly & easily snowball so that hundreds, even thousands, were indirectly infected by the aforementioned sex working individual.
Sexual activities are amongst the most dangerous for passing on this particular virus. Far more dangerous than an airplane ride or being at an airport.
Besides HIV, it's another reason to stay clear of African streetwalkers in Bangkok.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1634391]An infected sex worker could easily infect dozens of people. In turn those people could easily infect a number of other sex workers and the thing could quickly & easily snowball so that hundreds, even thousands, were indirectly infected by the aforementioned sex working individual.
Sexual activities are amongst the most dangerous for passing on this particular virus. Far more dangerous than an airplane ride or being at an airport.
Besides HIV, it's another reason to stay clear of African streetwalkers in Bangkok.[/QUOTE]It seems ebola-carriers are not contagious until they show the symptoms of the disease, so ebola is far less contagious than lots of other diseases. It takes about three weeks between "catching" it and showing the symptoms and for the majority of that period, you don't pass the virus on. The the disease kicks in and in a very short while you will be so ill that sex will be the last thing on your mind. If you read the reports, I see few if any mentioning ebola effectively being transmitted sexually.
On the average each ebola carrier infects only two other people, so "snowballing" from a single source is not likely.
Still, given ebola's lethality one should be careful.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1634556]It seems ebola-carriers are not contagious until they show the symptoms of the disease, so ebola is far less contagious than lots of other diseases. It takes about three weeks between "catching" it and showing the symptoms and for the majority of that period, you don't pass the virus on. The the disease kicks in and in a very short while you will be so ill that sex will be the last thing on your mind. If you read the reports, I see few if any mentioning ebola effectively being transmitted sexually.
On the average each ebola carrier infects only two other people, so "snowballing" from a single source is not likely.
Still, given ebola's lethality one should be careful.[/QUOTE]Ebola is transmitted by body fluids, which is the business of sex trade workers. So an infected sex trade worker is obviously not your average infected individual & far more dangerous in that regard.
Such body fluids as saliva, blood & semen etc can easily be transmitted via services such as DFK, BBBJ, DATY, etc. Even the sweat that is produced during sexual humping is a risk for ebola infection via skin to skin contact.
It is being reported that ebola is fatal to some 70 percent of those infected. Relative to the HIV infected who via meds usually live a full lifespan, those who succumb to ebola die almost immediately & horribly.
The CDC states ebola can only be spread to others after symptoms begin, which can appear 2-21 days after exposure:
[URL]http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/symptoms/index.html[/URL]
So if a sex worker you are with is feeling a bit sick, a recent HIV infection may not be the only possibility.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1634556]It seems ebola-carriers are not contagious until they show the symptoms of the disease, so ebola is far less contagious than lots of other diseases. It takes about three weeks between "catching" it and showing the symptoms and for the majority of that period, you don't pass the virus on. The the disease kicks in and in a very short while you will be so ill that sex will be the last thing on your mind. If you read the reports, I see few if any mentioning ebola effectively being transmitted sexually.
On the average each ebola carrier infects only two other people, so "snowballing" from a single source is not likely.
Still, given ebola's lethality one should be careful.[/QUOTE]Fully agreeing. When it is contagious, through any body fluid, sex is far away of sight of neither the patient nor anyone aside him. The last thing one has in mind when at such stage.
The drama is useful for some industry.
[QUOTE=SoloTraveler;1628355]Nickc,
Thanks for your information.
Yeah, I agree that Rajah Hotel is the fastest and easiest way to fuck women of European race in Bangkok.
I am an East Asian living in East Asia.
I was far more excited and far more horny to see a normal-looking European grandma than to see a super-hot Asian young model.
My Bangkok trip ended up to be a joke in my life, which I am so embarrassed to report it on the Internet til now.
During my 7-day vacation in Bangkok, I fucked 10 European working women and 2 Thai working women totally. I was in Bangkok. And I was looking for European working women desperately there.
I was paying 3000 Thai Baht (for Short time) to 7000 Thai Baht (for Long time) to have sex with normal-looking and sometimes mid-aged Russian / Ukrainian / Uzbekistan freelancers in Bangkok!
LOL! I still couldn't stop laughing at myself until now...[/QUOTE]Solo traveler,
The white woman at Raja are always and have always been 2600 be. If you dress rich, wear an expensive watch ext you will be charged more. I will be in Bangkok next week. I have found some of those European woman are very beautiful. But there service is shit. They hate their job. But, more than a few times I would pick one of those European woman and they would refuse to go with me. I assume maybe because they think I am Russian. I never understood that? If I was old and or fat I might understand. I guess I will never know.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1634707]Ebola is transmitted by body fluids, which is the business of sex trade workers. So an infected sex trade worker is obviously not your average infected individual & far more dangerous in that regard.
Such body fluids as saliva, blood & semen etc can easily be transmitted via services such as DFK, BBBJ, DATY, etc. Even the sweat that is produced during sexual humping is a risk for ebola infection via skin to skin contact.
It is being reported that ebola is fatal to some 70 percent of those infected. Relative to the HIV infected who via meds usually live a full lifespan, those who succumb to ebola die almost immediately & horribly.
The CDC states ebola can only be spread to others after symptoms begin, which can appear 2-21 days after exposure:
[URL]http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/symptoms/index.html[/URL]
So if a sex worker you are with is feeling a bit sick, a recent HIV infection may not be the only possibility.[/QUOTE]Well, In Bangkok the black African hookers grew in number every year. They are very aggressive. They will grab your arm and not let go. If they were contagious this would not be in a good place to be. I personally like the black chicks and did find a couple hot ones before. But, I may not go with any this year to play extra safe.
[QUOTE=OliverKitsoff;1632859]Bottom line, why come to BKK at all if Euro girls are your thing[/QUOTE]Hi, Oliver,
You're right. That's why I said that my Bangkok trip was a joke. I was too stupid to plan my sex vacation in Bangkok.
Thailand is a place for mongers to fuck Thai girls, not European girls, obviously.
And you know what? I am also a fan of German FKK clubs! You can check out my previous posts in this forum. I went to FKK clubs around Frankfurt, Hessen. I like Sharks, Mainhattan, and World.
I had my sex vacations in Germany and Thailand in 2014.
I was in Frankfurt for 3 weeks in July, and in Bangkok for 1 week in August.
Here's some comparison.
Frankfurt & Bangkok are totally different.
I cannot compare them, because they are totally different.
The pay for play cultures are totally different. The price structures are totally different. The mongering process are totally different.
And most important of all, the women you will get are totally different!
In Frankfurt, the majority of the working women you'll get are of the European race.
In Bangkok, the majority of the working women you'll get are of the Asian race.
So, it's pretty easy to make a choice between Germany and Thailand, if you are a guy who gets tired of fucking women of your own race, and wants to have a taste of exotic women of other races whom you would only see on TV in normal life.
I am actually talking about myself. I am an East Asian living in East Asia.
I was far more excited and far more horny to see a normal-looking European grandma than to see a super-hot Asian model.
My Bangkok trip ended up to be a joke in my life, which I am so embarrassed to report it on the Internet til now.
During my 7-day vacation in Bangkok, I fucked 10 European working women and 2 Thai working women totally. I was in Bangkok, and I was looking for European working women desperately there. What a joke!
In sum, I think you really have to go to both places and experience both of them by yourself. This is the only way for you to tell which place is a more suitable sex vacation destination for you.
For me, who desire European girls, of course the most suitable destination is Germany!
[QUOTE=TomSf;1635697]Solo traveler,The white woman at Raja are always and have always been 2600 be. If you dress rich, wear an expensive watch ext you will be charged more. I will be in Bangkok next week. I have found some of those European woman are very beautiful. But there service is shit. They hate their job. But, more than a few times I would pick one of those European woman and they would refuse to go with me. I assume maybe because they think I am Russian. I never understood that? If I was old and or fat I might understand. I guess I will never know.[/QUOTE]In brief summary, the European / Caucasian working women in Thailand are all second-classed hookers. You can't really expect quality or service from them.
The only reason that they can make some money in Thailand is that they are the exotic minorities there.
For example, if they go and work in a brothel in Germany, none of them will make any business because of their poor appearance or / and shitty service.
Like some members here had point out, Western Europe, especially the German-speaking countries as far as I know, are the best pay for play destinations for European / Caucasian flesh.
In Germany, I am able to fuck lots of good-looking, good attitude European / Caucasian women for 50 Euros (approximately 2000 Baht).
In Thailand, I always have to pay over 3000 Baht, and only to fuck some normal-looking, bad-attitude, second-classed ones.
Most important of all, let's not forget that people in Germany are almost 3 times richer than people in Thailand, and they can fuck their first-classed hookers for a even lower price.
Like I said in my other posts, this world is fucking insane and unfair.
I have to find a way to immigrate to Germany! LOL!
[QUOTE=SoloTraveler;1640143]
In Germany, I am able to fuck lots of good-looking, good attitude European / Caucasian women for 50 Euros (approximately 2000 Baht).
In Thailand, I always have to pay over 3000 Baht, and only to fuck some normal-looking, bad-attitude, second-classed ones.
Most important of all, let's not forget that people in Germany are almost 3 times richer than people in Thailand, and they can fuck their first-classed hookers for a even lower price.
Like I said in my other posts, this world is fucking insane and unfair.
I have to find a way to immigrate to Germany! LOL![/QUOTE]I agree with that ST. Even for European mongers, they said that Germany is the best place in term of money / quality. For most scandinavian countries prostitution is illegal. Nederland is okay for weed, but if you go to RLD for pussies, you'll be dissapointed. Private houses (I have try Rotterdam, Amsterdam and Utrecht) sometimes have good, but mostly not many choices (quality). France'is too expensive, Italy difficult to get WG.
In Germany you can go to Spa / FKK, see women naked so you know their body exactly. Many choices of white women. And they have flat rate club, swinger / gangbang club etc. Also a lot of independent escorts, some with reasonable prices. All are legal.
The problem is I can go frequently, because go to Europe need a lot of money (airfare, hotels, food).
Just like SOlo Traveller, if thereany opportunity, we'll be glad to live in Germany.
[QUOTE=SoloTraveler;1640143]In Germany, I am able to fuck lots of good-looking, good attitude European / Caucasian women for 50 Euros (approximately 2000 Baht).
In Thailand, I always have to pay over 3000 Baht, and only to fuck some normal-looking, bad-attitude, second-classed ones.[/QUOTE]In Pattaya & Bangkok, if you know where to go, you can get hot freelancers for 500 & 1000 baht.
In Singapore stunning PRC & Vietnam ladies for 50 & 25 USD.
In Hong Kong absolutely gorgeous white skinned ladies at similar rates.
Elsewhere in Asia even cheaper.
[QUOTE=Hbengkok;1640239]The problem is I cannot go frequently, because going to Europe takes a lot of money (airfare, hotels, food).
Just like Solo Traveler, if there's any opportunity, we'll be glad to live in Germany.[/QUOTE]I am not talking about the extremes (rich people or poor people). I am talking about a normal middle class people.
My point is, if a monger is of the middle class in Thailand or Asia, he can barely afford mongering in his own country.
On the other hand, if a monger is of the middle class in Germany or Western Europe, he can easily afford mongering in his own country, like maybe going to the FKK club once a week.
That's exactly the unfair point is. But what can I say? It's the way it is.
By the way, as far as I know, Asian immigrants in Germany / Western Europe, are either of the upper class (very rich people, but very few) or the lower class (poor people who only get paid the minimum wages, which is the majority of the Asian immigrants over there).
It's very difficult for a middle-classed foreigner to go over there, "take" or "steal" one of their middle-classed jobs (We Asians were looked down upon and were described very badly by some of the Europeans, which I prefer to skip on the Internet), and then integrate into their society to be a middle class over there.
Anyway, I won't give up looking for possible ways to get there. I will be glad to be a middle class over there, despite the fact that I might be severely discriminated and hated by the local unemployed haters. LOL.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1640248]In Pattaya & Bangkok, if you know where to go, you can get hot freelancers for 500 & 1000 baht.
In Singapore stunning PRC & Vietnam ladies for 50 & 25 USD.
In Hong Kong absolutely gorgeous white skinned ladies at similar rates.
Elsewhere in Asia even cheaper.[/QUOTE]PinkPear, thanks for your information.
However, Hbengkok and I were talking about working women who are of European descent.
I don't know whether it is politically correct to say things like these. Sorry if not.
We are Asians living in Asia, so we found women of European descent much more attractive and exotic than women of Asian descent. After all, there are not too many women of European descent in Asia.
By the same token, that's why most White guys went to Thailand and Asia, to have some exotic Asian women whom they don't see so often in their daily life in their own countries.
I guess, in North American English, there's a term for this, which is "Yellow Fever". A term usually applied to White males who have a clear sexual preference for women of Asian descent.
So, Hbengkok and I have "White Fever". We are Asian males who have a clear sexual preference for women of European descent. LOL.
Normally, in Asia, when people say "White women", they mean women of European descent (=Caucasian=Caucasoid=Europid). They doesn't really mean the color of the skin. For example, no matter how tanned a typical blonde-haired and blued-eyed Polish woman's skin color is, she is still considered a "White woman". No matter how pale a typical black-haired and black-eyed Thai woman's skin color is, she is still considered an "Asian woman".
In sum, some White guys have "Yellow Fever", and they even move or immigrate to Asian countries to solve this problem.
Hbengkok and I have "White Fever", and we're trying to solve this problem by moving or immigrating to European, North American, or Oceania countries to solve this problem. LOL.
Cheers
[QUOTE=SoloTraveler;1640409]We are Asians living in Asia, so we found women of European descent much more attractive and exotic than women of Asian descent. After all, there are not too many women of European descent in Asia.
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Normally, in Asia, when people say "White women", they mean women of European descent (=Caucasian=Caucasoid=Europid). They doesn't really mean the color of the skin. For example, no matter how tanned a typical blonde-haired and blued-eyed Polish woman's skin color is, she is still considered a "White woman". No matter how pale a typical black-haired and black-eyed Thai woman's skin color is, she is still considered an "Asian woman".[/QUOTE]I wonder if you would have an interest in a female of "European descent" whom everyone would think is certainly Asian or black African based on her looks. Or a female born & living in Thailand all her life with one typically Thai looking parent, yet this female would be identified by all as being "European" in looks. Is it the "European descent" you're actually after or a particular European look, such as blue eyes & blond hair etc?
I have found the latter type of girl working the streets in BKK near NEP for 1000 baht. These half breeds, with one parent being European & the other parent Thai, are quite common in Thailand. Some of them look 100 percent of "European descent" while with others it may be a different figure such as 75,50 or 25 percent.
Personally I usually prefer a girl without the typical Asian black hair & eyes, often going for those with Euro red & variously coloured eyes, though I refer to those who are not naturally that way.
There have been reports of ladies of "Russian" descent working Beach Road in Pattaya. I'm not aware of what their asking or going prices are, but 500 & 1000 baht are often generally quoted for PFP in this location.
Or if price is not an issue, then in BKK perhaps two like these could be snagged & bagged for 10 K apiece ST:
[URL]https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/10299081_707094049352742_671235265568778562_n.jpg[/URL]
OTOH if you can get away to Ukraine or Moscow for a few weeks of a nonstop bangathon, there may be some value in that these days with those nations currencies dropping like a rock in the past 5 years, especially in the past 12 months.
Alternately the trip to Singapore from LOS would be faster & more economical, with the potential to find half breed Vietnam ladies in Geylang or the Four Floors of W. I imagine a large number of these can be found in Vietnam itself & various countries in Asia, if you know where to look or have the time to seek search & snoop.
Hi, PinkPearl,
Thanks for your reply again.
However, you're making my original point more and more confusing and complicated. LOL.
Okay, let me explain it this way.
So, according to your previous post, you're from Canada, right?
According to Wikipedia ([URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada[/URL]), the population in Canada are like 76.7% White, 14.2% Asian, 4. 3% Aboriginal, etc.
The majority of the population in Canada are categorized as "White", which is exactly what I was talking about by saying "White women" or "women of European descent".
Therefore, I am looking for women who are of the same race / who have similar facial traits / who look like the majority of the population in Canada.
I hope this statement makes my point clear enough right now. LOL.
Yess, definitelly I got a white fever LOL.
It's true I can find mix / half blood in Thai or Singapore, but still more pure the sign of Arian (white pale, blue eyes, light blonde etc.), the better LOL.
Anyway this is just a personal preference, so I see no use to argue.
African girls are still standing upper Sukhumvit? And Russian can be seen at Subway?
Is there any area that is better or worse for africans? I prefer not to mingle with the street sleeping kind.
Went to see Rajah hotel around 8 PM. About 8 or 10 Uzbekis were sitting but none of them looked slim or attractive to me so walked to Grace. Things picked up in front og Grace after 10 PM, saw a very pretty lady in full Muslim hijab covering her head etc. Surprisingly she agreed for 1000 bahts in my hotel room in Sukumvit. Once in room she asked for money upfront, told her I don't do that but will make an exception in her case. Sure enough she undressed and asked to hurry up. Won't do BBBJ and refused lip kiss. Told her she can leave. Said she won't refund money, told her no problem. She can leave. She felt hurt. Spoke to her nicely and explained that sex without feelings is rubbish in my opinion. She smiled, wiped her lipstick and kissed like crazy. Was a very nice session. She had ultra smooth white skin. Flawless. Her rear view was stunning and worth the 1000 bahts alone. Session was very satisfactory.
Visited grace 2 other nights. Slim picking in the area on weekdays before 9 PM. Mostly fat Uzbek. But on one weekend, saw two of the most beautiful girls I saw during 10 day stay in Thailand. One Thai and one very fair complexioned Uzbek by name Mona. Seemed half Persian.
Overall the tourist season is down quite a bit so ladies numbers are also lower. Many agree to 1500 bahts easily now a days but service is nowhere as good as that of a spirited Thai lady. Did not see any pure white Russian chicks.
I live in BKK and sometimes I like to get some black girls, most of the SW will go with you from 1000-2000 the later the cheaper.
Had one freak with me the other day, she even wanted me to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] in her mouth and she felt like a dirty girl also CIM and she was a 1000 B girl.
Almost all of them are from Uganda, the will say other places but only to cover up, as I Have been to Uganda then I start talk about I love the place and then the truth come out.
I have been with around +50 of them, and never had any problem, I just take them back to my condo and always pay in the end.
[QUOTE=Bono1305;1657449]Almost all of them are from Uganda, the will say other places but only to cover up, as I Have been to Uganda then I start talk about I love the place and then the truth come out.
[/QUOTE]This is all I need to know about Ugandan prostitutes:
"HIV prevalence among female sex workers is 35 percent in 2011. ".
[URL]http://www.avert.org/hiv-aids-uganda.htm[/URL]
I am expat living in a small little town of Mae sot. Anyone know where to go to get a good massage and
HE?
Every time I pass by Bangkok, I do a session with Elena, the russian of the subway soi 7/1 . She recognised me. The price is the same than before, 1000 THB for short time at her hotel (between soi 2 and 4) . The service is good as usual: blow job then fucking in some position: doggystyle then missionnary. She take her time and she speak a lot. I left her happy.
[QUOTE=Boeing787;1688137]Every time I pass by Bangkok, I do a session with Elena, the russian of the subway soi 7/1 . She recognised me. The price is the same than before, 1000 THB for short time at her hotel (between soi 2 and 4) . The service is good as usual: blow job then fucking in some position: doggystyle then missionnary. She take her time and she speak a lot. I left her happy.[/QUOTE]Boy,
She has been working in BKK for quite a while. There used to be another Elena, (known as "Large Elena) working also. Unfortunately, haven't been back to BKK for two years, but would love to renew the relationship.
For that amount of money, Elena's cheap. But maybe not as beautiful, fair white skin, nor young.
I wonder whether Bangkok has more quality white girls.
[QUOTE=FuckHead15;1680243]I am expat living in a small little town of Mae sot. Anyone know where to go to get a good massage and HE?[/QUOTE]Follow the Soi beside the police station and keep going in that direction, cross a street and keep going ten or twenty meters and turn left into a short dirty Soi and there is an open area surrounded by all sorts of fun.
[QUOTE=Boeing787;1688137]Every time I pass by Bangkok, I do a session with Elena, the russian of the subway soi 7/1 . She recognised me. The price is the same than before, 1000 THB for short time at her hotel (between soi 2 and 4) . The service is good as usual: blow job then fucking in some position: doggystyle then missionnary. She take her time and she speak a lot. I left her happy.[/QUOTE]Does she give BBBJ? Not too sure if I'd be into DFK. Might give her go so thanks for intel on price. She usually quote me 1500 but I'm on my way to Dr BJ's most times.
[QUOTE=Boeing787;1688137]Every time I pass by Bangkok, I do a session with Elena, the russian of the subway soi 7/1 . She recognised me. The price is the same than before, 1000 THB for short time at her hotel (between soi 2 and 4) . The service is good as usual: blow job then fucking in some position: doggystyle then missionnary. She take her time and she speak a lot. I left her happy.[/QUOTE]Can someone share Elena's contact details please. (you can PM me).
Thanks,
Tony
[QUOTE=CallMeTony;1695839]Can someone share Elena's contact details please. (you can PM me).
Thanks,
Tony[/QUOTE]Just look at the outside seating at the Subway at the top of Sukhumvit, Soi 7/1. That's her "office" .
[QUOTE=SirWilliam4;1695864]Just look at the outside seating at the Subway at the top of Sukhumvit, Soi 7/1. That's her "office" .[/QUOTE]Yup she is usually there from the late afternoon (dusk) on. I saw her almost every night. If you make an attempt to locate her you will run into her eventually. She always gave me the big smile and wave. :) I was tempted but never took the leap.
I think she is smart to position herself at the beginning of Soi 7/1 as she can engage the punters heading in for Eden, Dr BJ's clubs, ect. I remember she also has / had a friend who was blonde / European and would be there also so you might want to make sure you have the correct lady.
SunLover.
There are African freelancers around the McDonald's near Nana Plaza. The McDonald's across the big street (Sukhumvit). There are black guys around but from what I've heard, they generally don't cause problems.
[QUOTE=Boeing787;1688137]Every time I pass by Bangkok, I do a session with Elena, the russian of the subway soi 7/1 . She recognised me. The price is the same than before, 1000 THB for short time at her hotel (between soi 2 and 4) . The service is good as usual: blow job then fucking in some position: doggystyle then missionnary. She take her time and she speak a lot. I left her happy.[/QUOTE]I bumped into Elena outside Subway the other night, took her to her room for 1000ST, she is very chatty and friendly, especially for a Russian hooker, only time she stopped talking was giving BBBJ LOL.
I'm not sure. But some ISGians was asking info on afros.
Couple of weeks back I was walking on the intersection road between SOI NANA & SOI 4, after you pass by the bus stop, you will see a good number of afros sitting outside the restaurant.
Saw couple of stunners. But not in the mood for fun, so walked away.
Does anyone have any more info on the talents of Elena? Specifically BBBJWCIM? DT? Thanks.
In the quest of variety I recently visited the Rajah hotel for the first time. The pimp showed me about seven women in the lobby. A couple were cute enough but showed no interest. Definitely not going to choose a hooker who barely looks at me. One Russian was friendly enough but not worth the B3800 that the pimp told me. Wisely walked away. For me this place portends a bad experience. I am going much more with my instincts these days.
[QUOTE=Turgid;1755579]In the quest of variety I recently visited the Rajah hotel for the first time. The pimp showed me about seven women in the lobby. A couple were cute enough but showed no interest. Definitely not going to choose a hooker who barely looks at me. One Russian was friendly enough but not worth the B3800 that the pimp told me. Wisely walked away. For me this place portends a bad experience. I am going much more with my instincts these days.[/QUOTE]Thanks for this report. Appreciate if you posted a few more details. I have peeped in while walking past rajah, but not seen anyone there in the lobby.
[QUOTE=KiJang;1755915]Thanks for this report. Appreciate if you posted a few more details. I have peeped in while walking past rajah, but not seen anyone there in the lobby.[/QUOTE]If you walk on Soi 3 (opposite Soi4 on the other side of Sukhumvit) there is any India / Arab restaurant on the first turning right and another immediately after Grace Hotel. You may have to visit these repeatedly but you may find decent Central Asian (Uzbek, Kazak) and Pakistani / Indian girls at very decent price 1. 5 K to 3 K. I have even met a Latina from Columbia but she was asking for 4 K.
[QUOTE=KiJang;1755915]Thanks for this report. Appreciate if you posted a few more details. I have peeped in while walking past rajah, but not seen anyone there in the lobby.[/QUOTE]It was my first visit. I happened to be in the area, saw a Russian girl seated outside with a Thai guy. Looked in the lobby and saw some girls seated, the Thai guy came up to me and the rest is as I explained. It was Monday night around 8. 00 pm.
[QUOTE=GlobalSurfer;1755949]If you walk on Soi 3 (opposite Soi4 on the other side of Sukhumvit) there is any India / Arab restaurant on the first turning right and another immediately after Grace Hotel. You may have to visit these repeatedly but you may find decent Central Asian (Uzbek, Kazak) and Pakistani / Indian girls at very decent price 1. 5 K to 3 K. I have even met a Latina from Columbia but she was asking for 4 K.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I will try to go there. I have no intention of paying more than 2000 baht. When I told that to the pimp in Rajah he laughed at me so it seems that some punters do pay these ludicrous prices for these women.
[QUOTE=Turgid;1755579]Rajah... One Russian was friendly enough but not worth the B3800 that the pimp told me. Wisely walked away. [/QUOTE]About two years ago, the price I paid for a short time with a Russian at Rajah was 2500 (first price quoted 2800). I doubt they'd go lower than that (I tried), but you can probably get them down to that.
Granted, that was some time ago, but with the ruble tanking (and baht staying steady), I see no reason for prices of Russians to go up from 2500 to 3800 in 2 years.
[QUOTE=Turgid;1755992]Thanks. I will try to go there. I have no intention of paying more than 2000 baht. When I told that to the pimp in Rajah he laughed at me so it seems that some punters do pay these ludicrous prices for these women.[/QUOTE]Yes – I agree people do pay ludicrous amount.
I suppose white girls are in very high demand in Asia and sometime people think with little think rather than brain.
Rajeah hotel rate is 3 K to 3. 5 K.
In Grace hotel they will ask you 4 k-6 k.
In Bossy they are all 6+. One Uzbek actually asked me 17 k.
I think you should stick to Thais are a few around Soi 3.
You will have to spend some time there but I have seen Uzbek, Kazak, Pakistani and Arab.
There are a few Arab bars where you can find Syrians. It is just at the beginning of So3 coming from Sukhumbit. Look dodgy to me and therefore I never ventured there.
Here's a piece on Uzbek white girls in Thailand:
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Jn4RGLJhDQ[/URL]
Is there any Russian Massage parlour with Russian / Uzbek / European Girls with all the services?
[QUOTE=Raju1974;1763402]Is there any Russian Massage parlour with Russian / Uzbek / European Girls with all the services?[/QUOTE]Will you look for thai when you go to Moscow?
If you have a pocketful of key you can go to Pattaya and might find some expensive Russian hooker in some Russian bar, usually rejected by their own market.
No massage (drop the excuse, you are not looking for a massage, do you?) but the Rajah hotel in soi 4 will have so called russian on duty. Go to the lobby and you will surely be approached.
[QUOTE=KiJang;1755915]Thanks for this report. Appreciate if you posted a few more details. I have peeped in while walking past rajah, but not seen anyone there in the lobby.[/QUOTE]Sometime you see them outside smoking or at the nearby 7-11.
[QUOTE=Boeing787;1688137]Every time I pass by Bangkok, I do a session with Elena, the russian of the subway soi 7/1 . She recognised me. The price is the same than before, 1000 THB for short time at her hotel (between soi 2 and 4) . The service is good as usual: blow job then fucking in some position: doggystyle then missionnary. She take her time and she speak a lot. I left her happy.[/QUOTE]I just got back from Pattaya after a week's relaxation and found plenty of Russian meat around. Went to 'wild Russian girls' on walking street and man they have some real stunning babes. I was with a local babe and picked up another stunner from the joint for the night for 3 some for 4000 THB. Reached Mariot by 1 at night and after some Whisky and Vodka had a gala time with both the babes. Every thing was on the menu except anal. Honestly speaking I really do not find Elena to be any thing like out standing and also looks old in the pic. Guys try out the place mentioned above for some real great, young Russian babes, for the quality I got I really feel 4000 THB was peanuts.
[QUOTE=Lalu111;1765728]I just got back from Pattaya after a week's relaxation and found plenty of Russian meat around. Went to 'wild Russian girls' on walking street and man they have some real stunning babes. I was with a local babe and picked up another stunner from the joint for the night for 3 some for 4000 THB. Reached Mariot by 1 at night and after some Whisky and Vodka had a gala time with both the babes. Every thing was on the menu except anal. Honestly speaking I really do not find Elena to be any thing like out standing and also looks old in the pic. Guys try out the place mentioned above for some real great, young Russian babes, for the quality I got I really feel 4000 THB was peanuts.[/QUOTE]I donno; while I understand the subcontinental brothers always seem to have that legendary [I]big time game thing[/I] going on with the hottest woman available, anecdotal one-offs don't impress me that much. But maybe it's all in the attitude (like the way you refer to them as "meat") that makes the ladies step up and notice?
SL.
[QUOTE=Sunlover2;1765774]I donno; while I understand the subcontinental brothers always seem to have that legendary [I]big time game thing[/I] going on with the hottest woman available, anecdotal one-offs don't impress me that much. But maybe it's all in the attitude (like the way you refer to them as "meat") that makes the ladies step up and notice?
SL.[/QUOTE]It was nice reading your message laced with sarcasm. Why be jealous of others when you can lay you hands, oops I mean little brother on the kinds of Elena only. Any way taste and pocket size differs from man to man.
[QUOTE=Lalu111;1765974]It was nice reading your message laced with sarcasm. Why be jealous of others when you can lay you hands, oops I mean little brother on the kinds of Elena only. Any way taste and pocket size differs from man to man.[/QUOTE]We are not jealous. First of all, you define the SW as meat. If you can't even show respect to your fellow worker, you are worse than them. It's people like you who spoil the market for fellow Indians.
You spent 8000 B for a threesome with rejects from their home countries? You sure got taken for a ride. LOL.
I agree that Elena and a couple of others in subway or only in business because they are white and in Bangkok.
However, the fellow mongers need to understand the intense desire of trying something 'new or different'. Many Europeans go after pinay or thais as they are different.
Irony is the most whites are not really Russians. They are mostly Uzbek with some Kazak. In my last minute I also met a few from Afghanistan and Pakistan (I did not used their services).
4000 BHT is still much less than what I have heard people paying BHT 6000 per hour.
The only problem is that they spoil the market for others.
I have 2 more nights in Bangkok. Last month I try 1 white girls bar in Pattaya, and I cannot forget it. Can anyone show me the same kind bar in Bangkok? White girls (Europe, Russia), or even Syria (or any else) but not Thailand. I'm Asian guy, so please don't ask why I want to find Lions in the Ocean beside Sharks, its enough Thai girl for me (at least for month more).
Thanks for your helps.
[QUOTE=GlobalSurfer;1755949]If you walk on Soi 3 (opposite Soi4 on the other side of Sukhumvit) there is any India / Arab restaurant on the first turning right and another immediately after Grace Hotel. You may have to visit these repeatedly but you may find decent Central Asian (Uzbek, Kazak) and Pakistani / Indian girls at very decent price 1. 5 K to 3 K. I have even met a Latina from Columbia but she was asking for 4 K.[/QUOTE]Uzbek, Kazakh, Krgyz, Tajik all these CIS with an odd Russian or Ukrainian is OK and can be found in BKK but Indian or Paki, this is news which we need to check and verify personally.
Another reason to visit LOS quickly before these girls vanish. LOL.
Enjoy my friend: Cheers.
Spotted these 2 Dogs in a Walking Street Vid. Man they are rough, but would I fuck them? Yeeeaahh. They probably charge a 1000 short time or so...
[url]https://youtu.be/Y_4a9U0jMMY?t=9m[/url]
[QUOTE=Logon21;1828680]I have 2 more nights in Bangkok. Last month I try 1 white girls bar in Pattaya, and I cannot forget it. Can anyone show me the same kind bar in Bangkok? White girls (Europe, Russia), or even Syria (or any else) but not Thailand. I'm Asian guy, so please don't ask why I want to find Lions in the Ocean beside Sharks, its enough Thai girl for me (at least for month more).
Thanks for your helps.[/QUOTE]It is widely known that at Rajah hotel, aside annie's, there is a contingent of "russian" who can be visited in the rooms or met downstairs if they are there for a smoke. Sometime you see them st the nearby 7-11.
Go in the lobby, look around "wondering" and soon someone will ask you whether you need anyhting.
Mind you, expensive and YMMV, not seen many positive reports so far. But if they are still there after quite a few years, there must be some decent business (or a lot of rotating unhappy customers).
[QUOTE=Logon21;1828680]I have 2 more nights in Bangkok. Last month I try 1 white girls bar in Pattaya, and I cannot forget it. Can anyone show me the same kind bar in Bangkok? White girls (Europe, Russia), or even Syria (or any else) but not Thailand. I'm Asian guy, so please don't ask why I want to find Lions in the Ocean beside Sharks, its enough Thai girl for me (at least for month more).
Thanks for your helps.[/QUOTE]Go to Subway restaurant by Soi 7 . You will see the very famous 80 year old Russian woman prostitute. She isbeen there every one of my last 10 trips to BKK.
(sarc.).
[QUOTE=Alex7J;1828844]Uzbek, Kazakh, Krgyz, Tajik all these CIS with an odd Russian or Ukrainian is OK and can be found in BKK but Indian or Paki, this is news which we need to check and verify personally.
Another reason to visit LOS quickly before these girls vanish. LOL.
Enjoy my friend: Cheers.[/QUOTE]Try cafes and shisha bars just after Grace Hotel. You will find Pakistani, Uzbek, Turkish and even Columbian (Speak Spanish at least). There is another café towards Sukhumvit.
[QUOTE=GlobalSurfer;1829827]Try cafes and shisha bars just after Grace Hotel. You will find Pakistani, Uzbek, Turkish and even Columbian (Speak Spanish at least). There is another caf towards Sukhumvit.[/QUOTE]I had seen the odd Colombian alone or two to tango in CM2 in novotel Siam coming from China or hk for there visa run, CIS chicks can be found in many places in BKK, the last time I was in BKKI saw some of the Arab beauties of Maghrib in BKK, you just can't stop loving there looks of Moroccan brown lovelies. Thick asses big tits ample cleavage these ladies are true starfishes.
Paki chicks this is news and this needs to be investigated and tasted in BKK reason no. 5 to visit BKK soonest.
Cheers: Happy Hunting.
Alex.
[QUOTE=GlobalSurfer;1773728]
Irony is the most whites are not really Russians. They are mostly Uzbek with some Kazak. In my last minute I also met a few from Afghanistan and Pakistan (I did not used their services).
[/QUOTE]WHOA. I think its time to set something straight here. You and others seem to be confusing geographical origin / citizenship with race / ethnicity. If a woman is "white" she is not a Kazakh, Uzbek, or other Central Asian, racially speaking. She is likely of Russian or Ukranian ancestry. The central Asian peoples, like the Kazakhs are in fact, as ASIAN as the Thais. Dark skin and hair, narrow eyes. They are descendents of the Mongols. They are not "white". No, they don't look like Borat. (BTW, the opening scene in Borat was filmed in ROMANIA, and the language the villagers was speaking was Romanian.).
Now it is important to understand that Russian people, as well as other nationalities were settled all throughout the Soviet Union. There were even enclaves of Germans and Polish in the east. When the Soviet Union collapsed they found themselves a minority in their new homelands overnight. Many of these people have strong links to these places and have no good reason to leave. They are a significant minority in places like the Baltics, the Causcasus, and Central Asia. That said, it is safe to refer to them as "Russians", though they might be from any of the "Stans", because their race, culture and language is Russian.
On the flip side, not everyone who is native to the Russian Federation is an ethnic Russian. There are various ASIAN ethnic groups in Russian Siberia. They are the ethnic majority in the areas abutting China and Mongolia. I had a Ukranian colleague who described his military service on the Chinese border in the last days of the USSR. He described the local girls as "Like pretty Chinese girl. But BIG. . big like Russian girl. " I'm sure they could make for an exotic mongering experience if you want to go that far. Its my understanding they once could be had for dirt cheap. But, my point here is that these Asian people are also Russian citizens. And this is why it is important not to confuse a woman's race with what is on the cover of her passport.
Back in 1996, I visited a beautiful Russian girl in Riga, Latvia I had met through a FAPIA penpal ad (that is how I began "pipelining" before the term existed). She was from Kalinigrad, her best friend was from Kiev, and most of her other friends were Russian, except the husband of her other best friend. He was a Georgian from Tblisi. In the five days I was there, I don't think I was properly introducted to a single Latvian. There were the ethnic natives, and the transplants from the Soviet era, who had nothing to gain by returning to their birthplace in the chaos that followed the breakdown of the USSR. Belarus? Only a small minority of the natives speak the Belarussian dialect. Most of the nation's inhabitants are of Russian or Ukranian ancestry. And that is pretty much the situation throughout the former Soviet states.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18nj7FSorH8[/URL]
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfnWDe5_4Ak[/URL]
[QUOTE=Wanking;1860939][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18nj7FSorH8[/URL]
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfnWDe5_4Ak[/URL][/QUOTE]Someone give the latest update on grace disco and other discos where you find Arabic babes or maybe an odd Colombian.
Mixx and Shock I have been.
Spasso: CM2 I will go tonight.
Anyone some more latest places.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=Tiradentes;1829455]Go to Subway restaurant by Soi 7 . You will see the very famous 80 year old Russian woman prostitute. She isbeen there every one of my last 10 trips to BKK.
(sarc.).[/QUOTE]If you're referring to Elena, the same lady mentioned elsewhere in this thread recently as typically stationing herself at a table outside the Subway sandwich shop on Soi 7/1 at Sukhumvit Rd. , unless she has changed her work schedule quite a bit lately I haven't seen her sitting in that location for weeks. Maybe her time limit for sitting there has been radically shortened by the Subway management.
I walk by there almost every night, used to see Elena sitting there all the time (never have partaken of her dubious talents though), but not in quite a while, at least a few weeks.
However, I have seen her standing next to lots of other women on the sidewalk in front of Striker's Sports Bar / Rajah Hotel on Soi 4 over the past few weeks. Interested parties who don't find her at the Soi 7/1 Subway might look for her there instead.
Any chance any of the black girls have a Thai Girlfriend?
[QUOTE=Wanking;1860939][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18nj7FSorH8[/URL]
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfnWDe5_4Ak[/URL][/QUOTE]
I lived at the end of Soi 4 and have seen her almost every night that I pass Strykers. It occurred to me as well that Subway gave her the boot from her office though lately her Subway spot seems to be occupied by some desperately obese African women.
How old is she, really? Someone on the board suggested she was 80. I think it was a joke but not sure. I did see her one night walking back from her hotel on 7/1 hand in hand with a punter who appeared quite pleased with his 'conquest'.
Another time, I saw her walking back to her new location on Soi 4 indicating to me she had been at a hotel up the street so she does get business.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;1861095]If you're referring to Elena, the same lady mentioned elsewhere in this thread recently as typically stationing herself at a table outside the Subway sandwich shop on Soi 7/1 at Sukhumvit Rd. , unless she has changed her work schedule quite a bit lately I haven't seen her sitting in that location for weeks. Maybe her time limit for sitting there has been radically shortened by the Subway management.
I walk by there almost every night, used to see Elena sitting there all the time (never have partaken of her dubious talents though), but not in quite a while, at least a few weeks.
However, I have seen her standing next to lots of other women on the sidewalk in front of Striker's Sports Bar / Rajah Hotel on Soi 4 over the past few weeks. Interested parties who don't find her at the Soi 7/1 Subway might look for her there instead.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tomasb;1861266]I lived at the end of Soi 4 and have seen her almost every night that I pass Strykers. It occurred to me as well that Subway gave her the boot from her office though lately her Subway spot seems to be occupied by some desperately obese African women.
How old is she, really? Someone on the board suggested she was 80. I think it was a joke but not sure. I did see her one night walking back from her hotel on 7/1 hand in hand with a punter who appeared quite pleased with his 'conquest'.
Another time, I saw her walking back to her new location on Soi 4 indicating to me she had been at a hotel up the street so she does get business.[/QUOTE]I think she is in her 40's. Sometimes drops a couple of kilos and looks better than other times. With me, she always beckons me over and tells me what a wonderful time I would have, "darlink", with her covered BJ to completion or fully industrial strength coverage for anything and everything else. That's right. A BJ to completion only with condom. For 1,000 baht plus the cost of the room! I have heard from a fellow BJ aficionado who dared to try her "BJ to completion with coverage" once that it was one of the worst BJs he has ever had and he called it off before she did serious damage to his pecker.
How a woman of that age and looks manages to charge and get as much as 1,000 baht (plus the customer is likely out the cost of the room) for a BJ with NO CIM without condom when no more than 1-8 minutes walk in almost any direction from wherever she is stationed on a given night there are dozens of cute 20-something year old Thai girls who will give you a BBBJ with 100% CIM for 700-800 baht (including the room!) has got to be all about her Caucasian DNA, the bleached blonde hair and nothing more. But she seems like a nice lady.
Maybe her industrial strength condom coverage boom-boom is truly awesome. lol. But with her age (as well as my own) and body I assure you I will never find out.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;1861286]How a woman of that age and looks manages to charge and get as much as 1,000 baht (plus the customer is likely out the cost of the room) for a BJ with NO CIM without condom when no more than 1-8 minutes walk in almost any direction from wherever she is stationed on a given night there are dozens of cute 20-something year old Thai girls who will give you a BBBJ with 100% CIM for 700-800 baht (including the room!) has got to be all about her Caucasian DNA, the bleached blonde hair and nothing more. But she seems like a nice lady.[/QUOTE]It must be the "foreign" aspect that is her best selling point, but for us "western" mongers that has little or no appeal. I can understand that perhaps Asian mongers are tempted for the novelty of her origin or simply to cross out an item on their bucket-list.
But I guess it is the same in Europe where I'm happy to pay a Thai or Pinay hooker good money although they are too old to stand any chance if they would ply their trade in Bangkok or Angeles.
[QUOTE=Wolfie0066;1861232]Any chance any of the black girls have a Thai Girlfriend?[/QUOTE]Go to the 2 black clubs, one is in the beginning of Soi 3 you need to access via elevator I don't know where just read the forum back in one my talks with a BKK veteran.
The one I know on Soi 4 is near the rajah hotel on the right is crazy and has some Thai chicks with black men so its a norm to be blacked for Thai women.
Well so says this vid [URL]https://youtu.be/HveU-va-H_s?t=2m28s[/URL].
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1861293]It must be the "foreign" aspect that is her best selling point, but for us "western" mongers that has little or no appeal. I can understand that perhaps Asian mongers are tempted for the novelty of her origin or simply to cross out an item on their bucket-list.[/QUOTE]Yes, I would have thought that about her likely customers as well. But I don't think I have ever seen her walking off with an Asian guy, an Arab, an African or an Indian. Maybe she has customers like that but I just have never seen her with one. I have only seen her walking lickity-split to the nearest Short Time hotel about 5 paces ahead of ordinary Caucasian guys desperately trying to keep up, generally clean-cut, often in their mid-30's, of average weight and height, nothing extraordinarily challenging in terms of their getting much hotter, younger, sexier Thai girls within easy reach in all directions. But, as usual, all of this is subjective and different strokes for different folks kind of stuff.
[QUOTE=Wanking;1861968]Well so says this vid [URL]https://youtu.be/HveU-va-H_s?t=2m28s[/URL].[/QUOTE]I was looking for some Arab ass during my trip to Thailand, but I didn't find any. Even checked out the Arab quarter in Bangkok and everything looking for it. Well, maybe I didn't look in all the right places, but I sure didn't see any. Believe my intel was dated as I had nothing on the Grace Hotel.
[QUOTE=TheCane;1862195]I was looking for some Arab ass during my trip to Thailand, but I didn't find any. Even checked out the Arab quarter in Bangkok and everything looking for it. Well, maybe I didn't look in all the right places, but I sure didn't see any. Believe my intel was dated as I had nothing on the Grace Hotel.[/QUOTE]For sure there is Arab pussy in Soi 4 just need to look for them. I have the itch for it so I am going to hunt in and around grace today so lets see where I get them.
I saw 2 Arab hookers with customers in Bollywood dance bar so its sure shot news. So its Arab and black pussy which is left.
[QUOTE=TheCane;1862195]I was looking for some Arab ass during my trip to Thailand, but I didn't find any. Even checked out the Arab quarter in Bangkok and everything looking for it. Well, maybe I didn't look in all the right places, but I sure didn't see any. Believe my intel was dated as I had nothing on the Grace Hotel.[/QUOTE]Last night I saw the famous Elena peddling her wares, standing on Soi 4 in front of Strikers Sports Pub and engaged in familiar conversation with a woman wearing a burka. I swear, my impression was the woman wearing the burka, face revealed, was as available for ST as Elena. Don't know if she was an Arab Muslim or a non Arab Muslim. In fact, I am not even entirely sure she was a she. Burkas aren't very helpful in that regard.
[QUOTE=Wanking;1861968]Arab hookers in front of Grace hotel... Well so says this vid [/QUOTE]They're hookers targeting Arab customers. They're not themselves Arab, but mostly Thai and ex-Soviet Union (though very few ethnic Russian). As others mentioned, some wear hijabs (absurd as that may be), but that means nothing.
Now, I cannot 100% guarantee no ethnic Arab woman ever peddled their wares on Soi 3, but I wouldn't count on finding one on a specific night.
It's hard to figure out exact nationalities of those girls. Had one who said she was Romanian, but didn't understand any Romanian. Had one claiming that she's Iranian, but I don't speak any Farsi, so couldn't test.
I'm sure if you said that you're looking for an Arab, one of them would gladly pretend to be Arab for an hour. Just don't expect her to speak Arabic well (though she might have learned a few words from customers).
I see this burka women all the time walking to my apartment near the end of Soi 4. You neglected to mention that the burka must have been made by Omar the tent maker. This woman is huge and when I see her, most of her face is covered. Pretty certain she is available. Not sure why she would hang out there if otherwise. If any BM prefer this body size, I look forward to your lively fun filled report. Especially want to know if she is shaved. 555.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;1862263]Last night I saw the famous Elena peddling her wares, standing on Soi 4 in front of Strikers Sports Pub and engaged in familiar conversation with a woman wearing a burka. I swear, my impression was the woman wearing the burka, face revealed, was as available for ST as Elena. Don't know if she was an Arab Muslim or a non Arab Muslim. In fact, I am not even entirely sure she was a she. Burkas aren't very helpful in that regard.[/QUOTE]
Hello everyone,
Just joined the forum. Been to Bangkok over 10 times. Always was curious about the Africans near Nana. Do they provide good service? Are they safe? Is there any scam? I see Africans guys nearby, there isn't a chance of being duped?
Always had a thing for Africans, but too afraid to try. LT and ST charges?
Thanks.
[QUOTE=BangkokBoy94;1862540]Always was curious about the Africans near Nana. Do they provide good service? Are they safe? Is there any scam? I see Africans guys nearby, there isn't a chance of being duped?
Always had a thing for Africans, but too afraid to try. LT and ST charges?[/QUOTE]You should be able to get ST for 1000 baht, though that's a lower bound, and they'll probably try to ask for more. Better if you name the price than let them name it.
Service can be OK, but I think Thais freelancers are better / more friendly (based on my small sample). Safety is not terribly problematic, as long as you take common precautions. Do not share drinks (spiking drinks is fairly common in Thailand), don't be drunk, use an ST hotel of YOUR (not her) choice, and keep an eye on valuables.
What puts me off African girls is the HIV prevalence in sub-saharan Africa (it's high in the general population, let alone hookers). Sure, our hobby is already risky, but it just doesn't seem like a sensible thing to do. Over the years, I talked to many, but did ST only twice, both times feeling the level of service was not compensating for the added risk.
If you like African girls, in addition to Sukhumwit, there are some in Pratunam at night (Phetchaburi Soi 17 and nearby sois) in addition to Sukhumvit.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1862600]What puts me off African girls is the HIV prevalence in sub-saharan Africa (it's high in the general population, let alone hookers). Sure, our hobby is already risky, but it just doesn't seem like a sensible thing to do. Over the years, I talked to many, but did ST only twice, both times feeling the level of service was not compensating for the added risk.[/QUOTE]I am kind of with you on this, Crocodilexp. I am certainly not what I might characterize as an HIV hysteric. But there are issues of risk with regard to HIV transmission that exist in Sub-Saharan Africa that do not exist anywhere else on the planet. Then again, once you eliminate the truly bizarre behavior and rituals that enables the much higher level of heterosexual transmission in some Sub-Saharan Africa cultures, even woman to man, I don't know that there is much more risk of a man acquiring it through vaginal or oral sex with an African woman than any other similarly experienced woman.
STILL, their connection to THE continent with the highest incidence of heterosexual transmission, even woman to man, is hard to shrug off. On the other hand, I also assume getting a blowjob is as statistically insignificant a risk with the African girls as it is with any other girls.
Do you or any other posters here have experience with getting a blowjob from the African girls? I haven't had an African girl in Thailand yet but my experience with them years ago in the USA suggests we're talking some seriously yummy looking man-pleasing lips in many cases, right? However, as it is with all women, the question is, do they know what to do with them?
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1862600]Do not share drinks (spiking drinks is fairly common in Thailand),[/QUOTE]That is a huge overexaggeration! There have been a few reports (and not all of them very certain) over the years. If you compare that with the millions of P4 P sessions that happen without a hitch, you are more likely to be hit by a meteorite or win the Euromillions lottery by a fair margin.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1862600]don't be drunk,[/QUOTE]I'm sure that drunkeness is indeed the biggest risk. Many people do not know their limits and set themselves up for less than honest providers.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1862814]That (spiking drinks) is a huge overexaggeration! There have been a few reports (and not all of them very certain) over the years. If you compare that with the millions of P4 P sessions that happen without a hitch, you are more likely to be hit by a meteorite or win the Euromillions lottery by a fair margin.[/QUOTE]It happened to me personally. Being drugged and robbed, I mean, not winning the lottery. It was a Thai girl I picked up on Khao San, a few years back. And I'm a non-drinker and an expat (not a tourist).
Before that, I also thought the odds were low, and it mostly happens to clueless drunkards. That's not the case. One could argue it wasn't a PFP girl (there was no money discussion, and she didn't provide any sex either, just took all my cash/camera/phone).
I think its her [URL]https://youtu.be/b4PnkdkW8Ic?t=8m19s[/URL].
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1862814]That is a huge overexaggeration! There have been a few reports (and not all of them very certain) over the years. If you compare that with the millions of P4 P sessions that happen without a hitch, you are more likely to be hit by a meteorite or win the Euromillions lottery by a fair margin.
I'm sure that drunkeness is indeed the biggest risk. Many people do not know their limits and set themselves up for less than honest providers.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't say it's a "huge over exaggeration. " GHB or liquid ecstasy is an easily obtained and frequently used party drug in Thailand. If you're into partying with people who you don't know or trust, you could be unwittingly or intentionally given GHB or liquid ecstasy.
I do, however, agree that drunkenness is a bigger risk, and when you're under the influence of alcohol, you're more likely to do something as stupid as taking GHB or liquid ecstasy without thinking of the consequences.
[QUOTE=Wanking;1868956]I think its her [URL]https://youtu.be/b4PnkdkW8Ic?t=8m19s[/URL].[/QUOTE]Yrs, she is. She moved her trade. You don't see her much at the subway in Soi 7/1 as before but around Soi 4 after the 7-11 - she might have her room at the rajah mansion past strikers pub.
[QUOTE=BionicMan;1869017]Yrs, she is. She moved her trade. You don't see her much at the subway in Soi 7/1 as before but around Soi 4 after the 7-11 - she might have her room at the rajah mansion past strikers pub.[/QUOTE]Me sucking good, fucking good, play balls Looks a bit old.
She said something about where the best Russian Girls are. Could not make out though.
[QUOTE=Yujin;1868974]I wouldn't say it's a "huge over exaggeration. " GHB or liquid ecstasy is an easily obtained and frequently used party drug in Thailand. If you're into partying with people who you don't know or trust, you could be unwittingly or intentionally given GHB or liquid ecstasy.
I do, however, agree that drunkenness is a bigger risk, and when you're under the influence of alcohol, you're more likely to do something as stupid as taking GHB or liquid ecstasy without thinking of the consequences.[/QUOTE]Likewise, when under the effects of GHB / ecstasy, you're likely to take more and not even know it. Went to afterhours club back in my home only to find out much later the drinks were spiked with something from a friend. I recall only urgently throwing up while on the way back from the club.
For those of our members who enjoy the rather rarer fauna in S. E. Asia I found two Columbian chicas working in Pattaya last week.
They were staying at the Apex hotel on 2nd Rd and I found them eating a rather late lunch at the restaurant opposite, which, by the way, does a rather good Coconut smoothy.
Both girls were quite tall with huge tits! Sorry did not check if enhanced or natural.
They told me that this was their first visit to Pattaya and they were there for a few weeks.
I would imagine that the prices would not be cheap due to rarity but, if that is what you want.
Enjoy,
Hotman.
Most of the Russians in BKK are big cheat!! And they are way too overpriced ill prefer any good Thai chick over them. If I really want white skin ill prefer visiting eastern europe its super cheap.
[QUOTE=BangkokBoy94;1862540]Hello everyone,
Just joined the forum. Been to Bangkok over 10 times. Always was curious about the Africans near Nana. Do they provide good service? Are they safe? Is there any scam? I see Africans guys nearby, there isn't a chance of being duped?
Always had a thing for Africans, but too afraid to try. LT and ST charges?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]There are a couple of ads for Africans on [URL]Backpage.com[/URL]. I was surprised that they say "no Indians". Have those guys from India upset the Africans as well now?
Been to Thailand twice.
Both times only BKK.
On Sukhumvit I saw these lifts which go to Arab bars.
I visited once saw two very very beautiful girls sitting while many men sit on their tables.
Suddenly one starts dancing and men dance around her and throw money.
Whats the deal here. Are these chicks barfinable?
They were drop dead gorgeous.
I find Mongolian women the beautiful of all Asian ladies, any agencies or Indies from Mongolian heritage? Any help is very much thankful.
Setting aside the vaguely racist slant: yes, as a matter of fact. Full figured, pouty lipped and voracious sexual appetite. She was from the Caribbean not the continent, but wow: my Jamaican lady was a dream. One of the best blow jobs of my life, and pretty much anything was fair game in the bedroom (or kitchen, car or beach).
I don't go to Asia to sample the yucca, but if I ran into a juicy piece of jackfruit along the way? In a heartbeat.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;1862736]
Do you or any other posters here have experience with getting a blowjob from the African girls? I haven't had an African girl in Thailand yet but my experience with them years ago in the USA suggests we're talking some seriously yummy looking man-pleasing lips in many cases, right? However, as it is with all women, the question is, do they know what to do with them?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Lkat999;1935102]I find Mongolian women the beautiful of all Asian ladies, any agencies or Indies from Mongolian heritage? Any help is very much thankful.[/QUOTE]Much better for you to visit Ulaanbaatar or Beijing to find as many Mongolian ladies as you can handle.
Any Mongolians plying their trade in Bkk will be very experienced and probably hard-core hookers, because it's a fair way outside their normal hunting ranges.
[QUOTE=Daebis;1927232]
On Sukhumvit I saw these lifts which go to Arab bars.
[/QUOTE]You might have to be a bit more specific about which "Arab" bars. Location and name of the bar. I assume it cannot be the Soi Cowboy "Arab's" bars you talk about. To get good answers, questions need to be very clear, even then you get weak answers for the most part.
Anyway I guess I am not the only one with no clue what you refer to. I doubt we have any Arabs on the forum.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1935674]You might have to be a bit more specific about which "Arab" bars. Location and name of the bar. I assume it cannot be the Soi Cowboy "Arab's" bars you talk about. To get good answers, questions need to be very clear, even then you get weak answers for the most part.
Anyway I guess I am not the only one with no clue what you refer to. I doubt we have any Arabs on the forum.[/QUOTE]These are bars with hookah, alcohol and freelancer Arabic, CIS and some Thai women in heavy make up disguised to look hot for the Arab customers who prefer big butts and big tits. These bars are near hotel grace 1 block left and right, I know about two of them from the Dubai sheesha place which is further away after nep, the manager there super huge guy Ali was the manager of bamboo bar right opposite grace so he told me about them one night when I was with my Colombian muse this April. He was telling her to go and work in these Arab bars rather than going to Mixx or Spasso.
The music played is only Arabic and some Bollywood and few English numbers clientele is mostly Arabic from all over gcc and they are a big chunk of them in these areas, entry is restricted for Caucasians and other nationalities, I hear also the disco in the basement of grace has restricted admission if I'm not wrong.
Cheers.
Met her in Nana area, from Madagascar. 1.500 short time. She was squirting like hell.
Are they any in Soi cowboy?
I am talking about the ones when you take a turn towards grace hotel.
They are on either sides.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1935674]You might have to be a bit more specific about which "Arab" bars. Location and name of the bar. I assume it cannot be the Soi Cowboy "Arab's" bars you talk about. To get good answers, questions need to be very clear, even then you get weak answers for the most part.
Anyway I guess I am not the only one with no clue what you refer to. I doubt we have any Arabs on the forum.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MarcoStraight;1935912]Met her in Nana area, from Madagascar. 1.500 short time. She was squirting like hell.[/QUOTE]She is lovely. Would love to meet her. Is it possible to be more specific than Nana area?
Thank you very much.
I will be in Bangkok this weekend. Any tips on where we can get Russians?
[QUOTE=Shekhar647;1989749]I will be in Bangkok this weekend. Any tips on where we can get Russians?[/QUOTE]Streetwalkers near and in Grace hotel, plus some in the rooms of a hotel on Bumrungrad side of Soi 3 (I think it's Garden Inn Hotel, but not sure). The latter used to be in Rajah hotel before.
[QUOTE=Lalu111;1765728]I just got back from Pattaya after a week's relaxation and found plenty of Russian meat around. Went to 'wild Russian girls' on walking street and man they have some real stunning babes. I was with a local babe and picked up another stunner from the joint for the night for 3 some for 4000 THB. Reached Mariot by 1 at night and after some Whisky and Vodka had a gala time with both the babes. Every thing was on the menu except anal. Honestly speaking I really do not find Elena to be any thing like out standing and also looks old in the pic. Guys try out the place mentioned above for some real great, young Russian babes, for the quality I got I really feel 4000 THB was peanuts.[/QUOTE]So you are saying you could pick up a Russian for 4000? Last time I went, they were asking 8000. Please let me know which one did you go to. There are several on walking street now?
[QUOTE=Shekhar647;1990874]So you are saying you could pick up a Russian for 4000? Last time I went, they were asking 8000. Please let me know which one did you go to. There are several on walking street now?[/QUOTE]I could not help myself. You are quoting a post from 2015 and it's now 2017. Enough said about this stupid comment.
[QUOTE=Bkkdog;1991056]I could not help myself. You are quoting a post from 2015 and it's now 2017. Enough said about this stupid comment.[/QUOTE]Bkkdog,
You were candid but it was helpful. I will try it today then. I tried the honey 1, PP and Rasputin. PP was the worst with almost 10 plosives in the bowl. Rasputin had good collection. They had a god collection. If small and perky boobs excite you, try number 1. Great service.
[QUOTE=Shekhar647;1990874]So you are saying you could pick up a Russian for 4000? Last time I went, they were asking 8000. Please let me know which one did you go to. There are several on walking street now?[/QUOTE]Why are your wasting your time looking for Russians in Pattaya? No doubt you will get many of them but then they are not worth in my opinion. Of course, each one has his own views. You can visit FKK Clubs in Germany and for as low as Euro 50 you get beautiful girls. Enjoy beautiful Thai girls when in Thailand.
[QUOTE=FunExplorer;1991077]Why are your wasting your time looking for Russians in Pattaya? No doubt you will get many of them but then they are not worth in my opinion. Of course, each one has his own views. You can visit FKK Clubs in Germany and for as low as Euro 50 you get beautiful girls. Enjoy beautiful Thai girls when in Thailand.[/QUOTE]Learning it the hard way. Will have to do Germany. The Russians in waling street act very pricey. Entry is free but by the time you realize, 500 gone for drinks. Then tip them for shaking their ass in air. Full.
Service is Minimum 6 k. Russians go to Russia!! We will see you only there.
My apologies if someone has mentioned this but there are a group of Russian ladies that work along Beach Road at the red statue near Soi 13/4. At first I thought they were tourists but I notice them there daily. They are too old, large, and definitely not pretty enough for me but if someone is looking for a Russian they are there.
Shekhar, entrance is not free to German FKK clubs. Some clubs charge as much as 3000 baht just for entry. There are also very few if any Russians remaining in German FKK clubs, mainly dominated by beautiful Romanians.
[QUOTE=Shekhar647;1989749]I will be in Bangkok this weekend. Any tips on where we can get Russians?[/QUOTE]Bossy.
Shock 39.
Spasso.
Grace Hotel Coffee shop and Disco.
Bamboo Bar opp Grace.
Mixx.
Dubai Restaurant have an Indian dance bar Bollywood: Inside there is a server called Robin: Pakistani guy: Take my name and ask him for Uzbek girls he knows at least 50 of them, he will hook you up.
I think this is enough for 6 months of Russian and Uzbek pussy in BKK.
Cheers:
[QUOTE=Shekhar647;1989749]I will be in Bangkok this weekend. Any tips on where we can get Russians?[/QUOTE]Check out Royal Garden Home hotel. Rajah hotel girls have shifted their base to this place since past few months. I think thailand has overall same low quality CIS chicks who move from venue to venue, same girls would ask different prices at different place. I had seen a mid 30's CIS lady in front of Grace asking 4 K LT and bumped into her later at Mixx around 2 am but asking 15 K LT, LOL. Putin is dead wrong about russian being best hookers, for that price you can get genuine small time thai model in big soapies.
[QUOTE=DwayneJohnson;1991579]a mid 30's CIS lady in front of Grace asking 4 K LT and bumped into her later at Mixx around 2 am but asking 15 K LT[/QUOTE]To add another price point, I had one of the prettier CIS girls (a rare actual ethnic Russian, late 20's) in front of Grace for 2 k. I think almost all of them are willing to go for 2 k or so if not too busy and they judge you're unwilling to pay more.
I'm of the opinion that it helps that I name the opening price, rather than letting her do it (anchoring). Of course, lowball it, but be realistic. For the 2 k one, I opened at 1. 5 k, so it was obvious to her she won't get anywhere with a 4 k offer, thus the 2 k price.
Any latest ground info about CM2 opening up again in novotel siam square. Last I was there it was closed for renovation.
Hello brothers,
I will be visiting Bangkok next week for a couple of days. I would like to meet up with an Iranian girl while I am out there. Can anybody guide me please.
[QUOTE=TityLover;1994203]I will be visiting Bangkok next week for a couple of days. I would like to meet up with an Iranian girl while I am out there. Can anybody guide me please.[/QUOTE]Won't happen. For what it's worth, in my 10++ years in Thailand, I talked to exactly one working girl (near Soi 3 Grace Hotel, also used to work in Pattaya) who said she was from Iran, but there's no telling whether that's actually the case (I'd wager probably not).
Thailand's sex scene is not exactly a smorgasbord of different nationalities, except for plenty of very ugly Africans and a few hardened, spent ex-Soviet Union providers.
[QUOTE=DwayneJohnson;1991579]Putin is dead wrong about russian being best hookers, [/QUOTE]Well, I think Vlad was referring to Russian hookers in Russia, in which case I will take his word for it.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1994377]Thailand's sex scene is not exactly a smorgasbord of different nationalities, except for plenty of very ugly Africans and a few hardened, spent ex-Soviet Union providers.[/QUOTE]I beg to differ. I don't normally care much for black women, but I did meet one very cute and charming girl from Ghana on Sukhumvit near Soi 5. I would have loved to taken her up on her offer of 100 baht for ST. However, I had just popped and was ready to sleep. So many, so little time.
[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;1994380]I would have loved to taken her up on her offer of 100 baht for ST. [/QUOTE]I'm assuming you mean 1000? I would hate to see a 100 baht freelancer.
Ok dunno if she is actually arab, but she certainly doesn't look thai. [URL]https://youtu.be/OMeq6JF71-Q?t=9m55s[/URL] I would love to see what's under that big dress forsure. Some nice looking Thai fatties hanging outside the Grace also.
Also a black girl on beach road patts [URL]https://youtu.be/nb5-tR0dbK0?t=9m45s[/URL].
Shout out to Youtuber Bangkok69 who has amazing footage with his spy camera system. Thai hoors don't like guys waving their camera around so this is the way to go.
[QUOTE=Wanking;1995272]Ok dunno if she is actually arab, but she certainly doesn't look thai. [URL]https://youtu.be/OMeq6JF71-Q?t=9m55s[/URL] I would love to see what's under that big dress forsure. Some nice looking Thai fatties hanging outside the Grace also.
Also a black girl on beach road patts [URL]https://youtu.be/nb5-tR0dbK0?t=9m45s[/URL].
Shout out to Youtuber Bangkok69 who has amazing footage with his spy camera system. Thai hoors don't like guys waving their camera around so this is the way to go.[/QUOTE]I think this Bangkok69 guy is a real disgrace with his hidden camera videos.
[QUOTE=Wanking;1995272]Ok dunno if she is actually arab, but she certainly doesn't look thai. [URL]https://youtu.be/OMeq6JF71-Q?t=9m55s[/URL] I would love to see what's under that big dress forsure. Some nice looking Thai fatties hanging outside the Grace also.
Also a black girl on beach road patts [URL]https://youtu.be/nb5-tR0dbK0?t=9m45s[/URL].
Shout out to Youtuber Bangkok69 who has amazing footage with his spy camera system. Thai hoors don't like guys waving their camera around so this is the way to go.[/QUOTE]I'd be well surprised if you will come across genuine Arab anywhere in Asia other than the Middle East. If you choose nationality above her look, be especially cautious if she is good looking. Ask her to prove it with a passport or whatever, as she will likely be a Somekindofstan pretending to be Arab. The money they will earn in Bangkok will be the same they earn in Dubai, the only difference is that the amount will not be in Thai Baht but Dirhams I already converted for you into cold Euro. They live luxury life in the Gulf and I don't really see why any genuine Arab of any reasonable quality would take the effort of travelling to Bangkok to get involved in some local Thai street action or spend her evening in the lobby of a cheap hotel? I've traveled the Middle East extensively and even there I found them to be a rare find in a few exclusive places. Ironically, from my own experience your best bet for affordable Arabs is Europe. Premium grade of homegrown and well-educated Maroc and Turkish from 100 EUR and up in Holland for example. France and Belgium probably no different. Maroc was among the finest f*s I ever had as well, and had quite some variety in spice if it comes to that.
Having said that, I need to be in Bangkok a few weeks from now and have limited interest in Asian and they probably won't be hard to find anyway. I am more interested to get hands on some high-class ebony, but what I've came across so far reading this forum and GoPro mongering on youtube, it seems to be all African origin. What are the chances of finding more decent ebony with US / Europe / South America background? I don't mind spending a bit more but don't want to end up paying a fortune for some cheap hooker from Uganda. Any chance at Spasso? Or any good escort service? I contacted VIP Models agency which advertises with some true stunners, and asked them a few questions. Received a friendly reply in which they managed to avoid answering both questions wether the photos on their site are genuine and whether I will be able to cancel the booking if she isn't, this made me even more suspicious now. Any good info available anyone? Thanks and cheers!
I'd gladly bang them two, but I suspect most of you wouldn't.
[URL]https://youtu.be/eOSGqFVS48U?t=8m28s[/URL]
Shoutout to Kingepic, another great Thai vlogger.
[QUOTE=TityLover;1994203]Hello brothers,
I will be visiting Bangkok next week for a couple of days. I would like to meet up with an Iranian girl while I am out there. Can anybody guide me please.[/QUOTE]About the same change of going to Iran and finding a Thai girl working in a bar?
It ain't going to happen.
Sly.
I replied an advert on Craiglist for a Russian girl named Sonya in Bangkok for two weeks. Normally the pricing for a Russian is greater than I am willing to consider but in this case she is doing 2 hours for 5000 baht which is in line with some of the higher class local girls (for example Natt on the Smooci site at 4500 baht). I'm happy to report that she is definitely the real deal. Pictures are absolutely spot on and the service was very good (by my standard for whatever that is worth). I tend to go for more of a GFE experience and she satisfied that for me very well. Kissing, BBBJ, DATY and sex in multiple positions, not sure how PSE she would be. She has a relatively small bust, a cup at best but nice sensitive nipples (they could put your eye out). I didn't partake but she told me she is also a trained massage therapist.
[QUOTE=JonTom;1996783]I replied an advert on Craiglist for a Russian girl named Sonya in Bangkok for two weeks. Normally the pricing for a Russian is greater than I am willing to consider but in this case she is doing 2 hours for 5000 baht which is in line with some of the higher class local girls (for example Natt on the Smooci site at 4500 baht). I'm happy to report that she is definitely the real deal. Pictures are absolutely spot on and the service was very good (by my standard for whatever that is worth). I tend to go for more of a GFE experience and she satisfied that for me very well. Kissing, BBBJ, DATY and sex in multiple positions, not sure how PSE she would be. She has a relatively small bust, a cup at best but nice sensitive nipples (they could put your eye out). I didn't partake but she told me she is also a trained massage therapist.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report, I was going to try her or Latina (Line: hotlatina444) as a variety. .
[QUOTE=SlyOne;1996267]About the same change of going to Iran and finding a Thai girl working in a bar?
It ain't going to happen.
Sly.[/QUOTE]Hi Sly,
I did get one from Iran outside Grace hotel, last time I was in BKK.
I was wondering if they were having a more permanent location in BKK.
[QUOTE=TityLover;2000367]Hi Sly,
I did get one from Iran outside Grace hotel, last time I was in BKK.
I was wondering if they were having a more permanent location in BKK.[/QUOTE]They have more permanent location, it's called Dubai. They get better pay in Dubai than bkk so why would they come regularly. Dubai has entire earths hookers these days due to oil money.
Straight from Sukhumvit this night, went out to do some reconnaissance on the streets as well as Grace. Scouted some Russians, but nothing impressive really, lots of overweight definitely not worth the prices in my personal opinion. Few to no Africans which rather seemed to be gathering at the BTS Asok, all I have spoken with from Uganda. But again, quality so-so. It took a while before I eventually came across a 7 and decided to go for it. Although 3 K was a bit more than I bargained for, she seemed to be well aware of her qualities as this was the best African experience I've came across so far. No hurry, relaxation in bath, massage, blowjob, sex, another blowjob, leaving me surprisingly satisfied. I forgot her name the moment she told me, but she was hanging out with a whole bunch of them at Asok. About the Arabs, its already been said that the finest Arabs will be found in Dubai, and some Moroccan candy in Europe. Yet, I was approached by one lady at Grace, almost fully covered and my surprised look in the eyes must have given her the wrong idea. She was definitely working. Yet, I didn't bother asking her nationality or price, she was nothing close to what Arab beauty should be like so either she was not good enough for the Gulf or Some kind of stain pretending to be Arab. Plans had been to check out Spasso tomorrow but was told it is a rip-off. The quality of the girls is not necessarily better, they just wear a bit more expensive clothing and high heels, which changes as soon as they hit the streets or average club. Lets see what tomorrow will bring us.
[QUOTE=TommyJohnson;2000581]Straight from Sukhumvit this night, went out to do some reconnaissance on the streets as well as Grace. Scouted some Russians, but nothing impressive really, lots of overweight definitely not worth the prices in my personal opinion. Few to no Africans which rather seemed to be gathering at the BTS Asok, all I have spoken with from Uganda. But again, quality so-so. It took a while before I eventually came across a 7 and decided to go for it. Although 3 K was a bit more than I bargained for, she seemed to be well aware of her qualities as this was the best African experience I've came across so far. No hurry, relaxation in bath, massage, blowjob, sex, another blowjob, leaving me surprisingly satisfied. I forgot her name the moment she told me, but she was hanging out with a whole bunch of them at Asok. About the Arabs, its already been said that the finest Arabs will be found in Dubai, and some Moroccan candy in Europe. Yet, I was approached by one lady at Grace, almost fully covered and my surprised look in the eyes must have given her the wrong idea. She was definitely working. Yet, I didn't bother asking her nationality or price, she was nothing close to what Arab beauty should be like so either she was not good enough for the Gulf or Some kind of stain pretending to be Arab. Plans had been to check out Spasso tomorrow but was told it is a rip-off. The quality of the girls is not necessarily better, they just wear a bit more expensive clothing and high heels, which changes as soon as they hit the streets or average club. Lets see what tomorrow will bring us.[/QUOTE]In the restaurants between Sukhumvit and Grace I have met three Uzbek / Kazak decent and young. Excellent service 2 K ST. African you should be able to negotiate 1 to 1. 5 K.
See a lot of girls from Madagascar. How do they end up in Pattaya? Long flight and expensive ticket can they make any money or do their pimps take all. Anybody know their deal. Just curious.
Hi,
First time in Bangkok and leaving tomorrow.
Would appreciate if someone could help me in finding Russian / japs / middle eastern women.
Thanks in advance.
I read a while ago that the CIS base from Rajah shifted to Royal Garden Home Hotel. So I went there and just checked out the place from outside. Could not see anyone outside or sitting in the lobby. What is the process, do I go to the reception or doorman and ask? Any idea?
[QUOTE=Sum12;2028808]I read a while ago that the CIS base from Rajah shifted to Royal Garden Home Hotel. So I went there and just checked out the place from outside. Could not see anyone outside or sitting in the lobby. What is the process, do I go to the reception or doorman and ask? Any idea?[/QUOTE]Yes. There's a pimp hanging out there most of the time, he'll show you the way.
[QUOTE=DwayneJohnson;2000486]They have more permanent location, it's called Dubai. They get better pay in Dubai than bkk so why would they come regularly. Dubai has entire earths hookers these days due to oil money.[/QUOTE]The working girls in Grace dressed in Arab Abaya are Central Asian Turkic girls, Indian Subcontinental & possibly Tajik.
Dubai thriving girl industry is the by-product of Global investments & the Emirates airline DXB busy transit hub.
Dubai oil accounts for less than 4% of its economy. Small when compared to Venezuela which has the world biggest Oil reserve in the world & on the verge of starvation.
Another stereotype is that Thailand economy depends on the sex industry, Thailand Sex industry accounts for less than 4% of its economy (80% of the customers are local Thai enjoying their own).
The foreign girls in Thailand like the laid back lifestyle, relatively easy visa & abundance of customers, so expect them to be in the moody side, compared to the ones in Dubai.
[QUOTE=Member#4446;2005114]See a lot of girls from Madagascar. How do they end up in Pattaya? Long flight and expensive ticket can they make any money or do their pimps take all. Anybody know their deal. Just curious.[/QUOTE]I surmise they came aboard ships. They make it provided they don't get thrown overboard after servicing the crew during the long journey. Just speculating.
[QUOTE=DwayneJohnson;2000486]They have more permanent location, it's called Dubai. They get better pay in Dubai than bkk so why would they come regularly. Dubai has entire earths hookers these days due to oil money.[/QUOTE]Well, aside from the oil money bit, can confirmed there is a decent Iranian selection here in Dubai for pretty nutty prices. You can find some lower rent deals but English is nonexistent and you get what you pay for. Shudder. Anyway, this is one of many reasons I'm boarding a flight to BKK shortly! Will be there in the morning.
Anyone who does make the trip to dubai, feel free to look me up as well as the board. It's not so friendly to newbies but foreign seniors tend to fair well. Always willing to buy the first beer for fellow hobbiest myself!
Jet.
[QUOTE=JoseNosay;2039382]Another stereotype is that Thailand economy depends on the sex industry, Thailand Sex industry accounts for less than 4% of its economy (80% of the customers are local Thai enjoying their own).[/QUOTE]Not questioning you, but that 4% is oddly specific, do you have a source on it?
When evaluating Thailand's sex industry, we should also consider all the non-sex businesses (like restaurants, hotels and transport) that depend on visitors drawn by the sex industry. Thailand's economy is well-diversified and overall share of sex industry is small, but in places like Pattaya, foreigner-oriented sex industry is still the dominant driver of business (bit less in recent years, but still).
[QUOTE=SlyOne;1996267]About the same change of going to Iran and finding a Thai girl working in a bar?
It ain't going to happen.
Sly.[/QUOTE]Disagree. I met an Iranian girl in Nana and the session her and I was great. She actually approached me and, I just asked her where she was from. Tehran she told me. Nice ass but showed marks of child birth. BBBJ, anal and CIM were all on the menu for 1000 BHT. A few of them hang out near New York Pizza and on the corner near the PB Hotel. Give it a shot!.
[B]MeatMan[/B]
I was in BKK and met a Hungry Lady near Hotel SOFITEL on Sukumvitt Road. Nice English the lady was slim and asked 2000 BT for LT. I was bit hesitant as price was low and not sure if she is good. We talk few minutes and she looked very informed about and confident. Also told she is 32 and youngest of three siblings single and visit BKK for Holiday and Fun. I thought let us take chance as damage was not high. Went to Hotel and had some wine. During about a 45 discussion she told she work in a Shopping Mall at Budapest Hungary. She is educated and has a lot of interest in History. She knew a lot of political, historical and cultural information about various countries including History of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh, Nepal.
When cloths went down I was happy no marks but unshaven clean pussy. She like the sex, wet without lube and we had very good time. Morning she went after breakfast.
[QUOTE=JAI1965;2070244]I was in BKK and met a Hungry Lady near Hotel SOFITEL on Sukumvitt Road. Nice English the lady was slim and asked 2000 BT for LT. I was bit hesitant as price was low and not sure if she is good. We talk few minutes and she looked very informed about and confident. Also told she is 32 and youngest of three siblings single and visit BKK for Holiday and Fun. ....
When cloths went down I was happy no marks but unshaven clean pussy. She like the sex, wet without lube and we had very good time. Morning she went after breakfast.[/QUOTE]I hope you did the right thing and gave her something to eat.
[QUOTE=MeatMan;2069987]Disagree. I met an Iranian girl in Nana and the session her and I was great. She actually approached me and, I just asked her where she was from. Tehran she told me. Nice ass but showed marks of child birth. BBBJ, anal and CIM were all on the menu for 1000 BHT. A few of them hang out near New York Pizza and on the corner near the PB Hotel. Give it a shot!.
[B]MeatMan[/B][/QUOTE]Iranian girl! Not yet in my sex-board, I hope she will still there mid-September when I will be at Bangkok.
[QUOTE=Sum12;2028808]I read a while ago that the CIS base from Rajah shifted to Royal Garden Home Hotel. So I went there and just checked out the place from outside. Could not see anyone outside or sitting in the lobby. What is the process, do I go to the reception or doorman and ask? Any idea?[/QUOTE]I am in Bangkok today. Did you hear back or anyone else has an update if this place is operating. Or any other suggestions!
Have spotted a few one evening in the corner bar behind the "spaghetti house" stall of soi diana an di buhakaw.
Crossed a few also on second road nesrby soi diana.
Not my calls. Anyhow.
Just a feedback from the forum.
[QUOTE=Shekhar647;2071779]I am in Bangkok today. Did you hear back or anyone else has an update if this place is operating. Or any other suggestions![/QUOTE]Don't do that. These are exploited kidnapped CIS women working in fear and are abused daily by their owners.
[QUOTE=MSClive;2071945]Don't do that. These are exploited kidnapped CIS women working in fear and are abused daily by their owners.[/QUOTE]While their lives are not easy, they aren't exactly innocent village girls being kidnapped and forced to do it. Most of the ex-Soviet girls in Bangkok have been on the prostitution circuit all over Asia for a long, long time, usually 10 years or more. Difficult to know how it started and how voluntary it was. They do operate in cooperation with the mafia facilitators / pimps, but they're not slaves being chained to the bed or actively threatened by the mafia.
I sometimes use we chat to hook up with WG in Thailand. Most of the time it was some ladyboy or some old hags who have reached their shelf life period. I was lying in bed, waiting for the evening to start so that I can find myself some pussy. I got a chat request from a CIS girl, after exchanging name and confirming I am in Pattaya, she asked if I would like her to come over for sex short time. I asked her how much and she quoted 6 k be. I told her I am not interested and she was OK to come come over for 5 k b. I told her I am in Thailand and I am interested in Thai chicks and I am happy to have sex for 1-2 k I can maximum give her 3 K. If she is keen, she is welcome. After some time she accepted my offer. I directed her to come to walking street where my hotel is located with her passport as proof for my hotel and she told me she will be there in that insomnia in half hour. I asked her to send few selfies and pic of her boobs which she sent.
She was in her late 20, bit chubby and has a kid. She worked in Dubai and knew conversational Arabic. Her BBBJ was awesome and I spent a lot of time crushing her huge tits. Lack of curvy boobs in Thailand made me maul her boobs for extra time while on WOT. Did WOT, miss and doggy with CBJ in between positions. I took a long time to come and she left with one water bottle and few sample liquid soaps and shampoo from my bathroom after asking me. I escorted her out of hotel so that she can collect her passport. Overall my first European / CIS experience.
CS.
Test. Poor photo of overpriced Africans in soi 4. Don't bother asking them how much as I rather go to Africa and pick up girls dirt cheap there.
[QUOTE=Boeing787;2071446]Iranian girl! Not yet in my sex-board, I hope she will still there mid-September when I will be at Bangkok.[/QUOTE]So you were able to find any Iranian girl? BTW I am a big fan of the Boeing 787.
Well, women, that is. There are still plenty of guys out on the street but I walked all over the area between well down Soi Nana to Asoke last night around 11 to 1 am and saw not a single one. Have they been sent home?
Hey guys,
I'm going to stay at hotel near Nana Plaza next month. Anyone can tell me the price / duration of those Eastern Europeans, Africans, South Asians and maybe Middle Easterns? I heard about Rajah Hotel and Grace Hotel, do they only work during nighttime? Also do they go back and do business at our hotel room, or they ask us to rent a room by the hour?
Thanks!
[QUOTE=GregHowe;2096554]Well, women, that is. There are still plenty of guys out on the street but I walked all over the area between well down Soi Nana to Asoke last night around 11 to 1 am and saw not a single one. Have they been sent home?[/QUOTE]Ha ha. If all the black girls and ladyboys and black mafia boys were cleaned out of Sukhumvit, I would not miss them. LOL
There were plenty of black girls in Soi 23 last night after midnight and other nights. Black girls sitting at the cart bars in Soi 23 as well.
I would suggest there may have been a temporary problem with police an the girls could have moved into the side Sois like Soi 3, 11, 13 , and 15. I don't know the other side of Sukhumvit road so well. So don't know if black girls cover that side as well. Certainly plenty of black girls in Soi 4 on previous walks. Very few indeed of the black girls are really pretty so if Sukumvit was clear of them, I would not miss them. A large portion are supposed to be from Uganda which are not very classy looking for the most part.
In the past I found girls from Kenya, Tanzania, Ghana, etc. To be better looking, generally meeting them outside of Thailand.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2103480]Ha ha. If all the black girls and ladyboys and black mafia boys were cleaned out of Sukhumvit, I would not miss them. LOL
Very few indeed of the black girls are really pretty so if Sukumvit was clear of them, I would not miss them. A large portion are supposed to be from Uganda which are not very classy looking for the most part.
In the past I found girls from Kenya, Tanzania, Ghana, etc. To be better looking, generally meeting them outside of Thailand.[/QUOTE]I'm totally agree with you, I love black and Asian girls but each time I'm in Bangkok I never use the service of the Africans streetwalkers. Very bad look and attitude, I never talk with them. It's very easy to find better quality for a better price everywhere in Bangkok.
Well, if even average looking African girls get deported, there's little chance of good-looking ones getting a foothold any time soon. It's not as though the Thai P4 P scene couldn't do with a bit of variety though, my two cents.
Hi,
This is my first post in this forum. I am planning to visit Bangkok for 3-4 days. It's OK to want Thai girls but personally I have an obsession for blonde women however, old and average looking they may be. I have been contacting a lot of confusing escort agencies which claim to provide European or Russian blonde escorts. Some of them have replied to my booking request but its tricky sometimes an escort contacts you directly through what's app and sometimes its the agent. They don't share the pics of girls available with them and mostly charge 12000-16000 for 2-3 hours. I just to know your opinion about such bookings. In my view these are not the girls from Rajah Hotel etc and may be exclusive girls since they charge so high. I am not sure about the pics they share on their websites as most of them are rip offs from porn websites and models. If after spending 16000 bht for 3 hours I am going to end up with some babe like the ones found in Rajah Hotel or Grace Hotel then may I request you to warn me so I can drop the idea while I have time.
Peace.
[QUOTE=XXL;2105127]Well, if even average looking African girls get deported, there's little chance of good-looking ones getting a foothold any time soon. It's not as though the Thai P4 P scene couldn't do with a bit of variety though, my two cents.[/QUOTE]Who are all these African men that hang out at every ATM machine? Are they selling drugs? Are they working girls for old white women that are looking for something? In Bali they have the Bali Cowboys that dye their hair blond and prey on the Old fat Aussies, and make bank doing it.
And every three months when I'm in Bkk there seems to be more Africans? Thailand needs to gat a handle on this problem.
RL.
[QUOTE=Marcuss4495;2106984]Hi,
This is my first post in this forum. I am planning to visit Bangkok for 3-4 days. It's OK to want Thai girls but personally I have an obsession for blonde women however, old and average looking they may be. I have been contacting a lot of confusing escort agencies which claim to provide European or Russian blonde escorts. Some of them have replied to my booking request but its tricky sometimes an escort contacts you directly through what's app and sometimes its the agent. They don't share the pics of girls available with them and mostly charge 12000-16000 for 2-3 hours. I just to know your opinion about such bookings. In my view these are not the girls from Rajah Hotel etc and may be exclusive girls since they charge so high. I am not sure about the pics they share on their websites as most of them are rip offs from porn websites and models. If after spending 16000 bht for 3 hours I am going to end up with some babe like the ones found in Rajah Hotel or Grace Hotel then may I request you to warn me so I can drop the idea while I have time.
Peace.[/QUOTE]Try to meet the famous Elena, around 40 years old, blond, not skinny! Friendly and cheap, you can found her during the night time at the middle of soi 4 sukhumvit.
[QUOTE=RobertLong;2107038]Who are all these African men that hang out at every ATM machine? Are they selling drugs? Are they working girls for old white women that are looking for something? In Bali they have the Bali Cowboys that dye their hair blond and prey on the Old fat Aussies, and make bank doing it.
And every three months when I'm in Bkk there seems to be more Africans? Thailand needs to gat a handle on this problem.
RL.[/QUOTE]If "getting the handle" on some men could help us here on this forum, wouldn't the crowds of Chinese (or the crowds of 500-euro ST Japanese) be the ones to wish they weren't there, rather than a few dozen black buggers?
It seems the policing of prostitution in Thailand is, to put it midly, race-oriented. I'm no so much concerned about the human rights issue as about the quantity and variety of girls. There are too many factors driving prices up already without deportations. Wishing a particular race of girls to get eliminated just because one is not into that race (or because the sample available thus far is mediocre) is short-sighted.
When we checked in to our hotel in Pattaya, the front desk explained in great length about the process of checkin for girls, the mandatory requirement of ID, calls to the room to confirm well being of the guest, etc. Since I read about this in the forum I wasn't surprised.
However they also added that any girl who comes without an ID (seems the foreign girls can't get them) will not be let in. They specifically warned about bringing girls of other nationalities since it could be an immigration issue.
I personally think the local government is trying to get rid of non-Thai workers and this is one easy way to do it. Mongers can always take them to one of the hundreds of ST rooms however they will be discouraged from taking them to their hotel rooms. Considering the cleanliness issue of certain places the demand for foreign girls by affluent mongers will go down slowly but surely.
Any thoughts and similar experiences?
[QUOTE=LoneWolff;2107258]I personally think the local government is trying to get rid of non-Thai workers and this is one easy way to do it. Mongers can always take them to one of the hundreds of ST rooms however they will be discouraged from taking them to their hotel rooms. Considering the cleanliness issue of certain places the demand for foreign girls by affluent mongers will go down slowly but surely. Any thoughts and similar experiences?[/QUOTE]I recall from a few years back that the authorities were going after the Ruskie bars in Pattaya such as "Crazy Russian Girls", and even arrested the girls working there during a raid. So, it hasn't been only the Africans who have been targeted, at least not in Pattaya anyway. Are any of those Ruskie bars still around in Pattaya? There were even some in Phuket as I recall.
[QUOTE=Boeing787;2107235]Try to meet the famous Elena, around 40 years old, blond, not skinny! Friendly and cheap, you can found her during the night time at the middle of soi 4 sukhumvit.[/QUOTE]Middle of Soi 4? How do I find her? I stay near Rajah Hotel.
And is it true that the girls in Grace Hotel now all moved to Royal Garden Home?
[QUOTE=LoneWolff;2107258]However they also added that any girl who comes without an ID (seems the foreign girls can't get them) will not be let in. They specifically warned about bringing girls of other nationalities since it could be an immigration issue.
Any thoughts and similar experiences?[/QUOTE]Simply pick a different hotel for your stay. Plenty of hotels in Pattaya are not fussy at all, and while most try to check ID, a passport is perfectly acceptable, I had a few foreign girls show those. Quite a few hotels will let the girl upstairs even if she has no ID, sometimes after giving you a stern look and asking if you [I]really[/I] want to do it given possible consequences (which is understandable, they don't want bad things like thefts, drugging etc on their property). Being sober might help your case.
It's NOT an immigration issue, unless she's on overstay, since as far as the hotel is concerned, there's no prostitution happening. I doubt immigration and vice policing issues can be effectively enforced through hotels, since most of the monger-class hotels have a strong incentive not to be fussy, and competition is strong.
Some of the nicer hotels try to walk a fine line between being non-monger friendly, not losing too much of the monger business, and getting some money on the side (I doubt there's an issue 100-500 baht to the objecting receptionist wouldn't resolve). When mongering, I try my best to stay away from such poorly-focused businesses, and give my money to ones who cater to what I'm in Pattaya for.
[QUOTE=Boeing787;2107235]Try to meet the famous Elena, around 40 years old, blond, not skinny! Friendly and cheap, you can found her during the night time at the middle of soi 4 sukhumvit.[/QUOTE]Lately, I have seen Elena standing on the even soi side of Sukhumvit Rd between Soi 8 and Soi 4. Don't recall seeing her on Soi 4 in a while. Night time, of course.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2107399]Quite a few hotels will let the girl upstairs even if she has no ID, sometimes after giving you a stern look and asking if you [I]really[/I] want to do it given possible consequences (which is understandable, they don't want bad things like thefts, drugging etc on their property). Being sober might help your case.
[/QUOTE]I think it is more of a case of the hotels trying to protect their reputation if anything happens. If they have ID / passport they can at least try to track the girl down if she drugs / steals from her companion. My gues is that if something were to happen and the police came by, the first thing they would ask for is the ID or passport.
[QUOTE=JonTom;1996783]I replied an advert on Craiglist for a Russian girl named Sonya in Bangkok for two weeks. Normally the pricing for a Russian is greater than I am willing to consider but in this case she is doing 2 hours for 5000 baht which is in line with some of the higher class local girls (for example Natt on the Smooci site at 4500 baht). I'm happy to report that she is definitely the real deal. Pictures are absolutely spot on and the service was very good (by my standard for whatever that is worth). I tend to go for more of a GFE experience and she satisfied that for me very well. Kissing, BBBJ, DATY and sex in multiple positions, not sure how PSE she would be. She has a relatively small bust, a cup at best but nice sensitive nipples (they could put your eye out). I didn't partake but she told me she is also a trained massage therapist.[/QUOTE]Please share her contact so I can apply as well.
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[QUOTE=LadyMontbarron;2107283]Middle of Soi 4? How do I find her? I stay near Rajah Hotel.
And is it true that the girls in Grace Hotel now all moved to Royal Garden Home?[/QUOTE]I already post 2 photos of Elena, walk in the different soi of sukhumvit around "nana " and maybe you can see her if she is not busy.
[QUOTE=Boeing787;2107725]I already post 2 photos of Elena, walk in the differents soi of sukhumvit around "nana " and maybe you can see her if she is not busy.[/QUOTE]I was approached in front of the Landmark. She was trolling for John Fish. I declined as my taste is Thai and young. No price was mentioned and I was polite to not ask.
RL.
[QUOTE=RobertLong;2107741]I was approached in front of the Landmark. She was trolling for John Fish. I declined as my taste is Thai and young. No price was mentioned and I was polite to not ask.
RL.[/QUOTE]Saw her on last trip to Bangkok, hangs around Nana Plaza area or near overhead train station. Kinda chubby, older unit and chain smoker. Prices start at 1000.
I've been trying to research where to find Chinese escorts in Bangkok, but I haven't been able to find much information. I've heard you can find some in Chinatown, but apparently it's mostly old and unattractive women. Anyone know where to find attractive 20-30 year old mainland escorts in Bangkok? I speak / read Mandarin if that matters.
[QUOTE=Sellar;2108441]I've been trying to research where to find Chinese escorts in Bangkok, but I haven't been able to find much information. I've heard you can find some in Chinatown, but apparently it's mostly old and unattractive women. Anyone know where to find attractive 20-30 year old mainland escorts in Bangkok? I speak / read Mandarin if that matters.[/QUOTE]
I really doubt you'll find many. Even the Chinatown PRC scene is fairly slim these days, compared to a few years ago. Some of the PRC workers that were there have been cleaned up by the police (say, Broadway Hotel).
If you're into PRC Chinese escorts, better go to KL Malaysia.
I don't think there are any compelling economic reasons for PRC Chinese hookers to work in Thailand. The demand is not all that high (plenty of competition from Thais in low / mid range), the legal / immigration situation is unfavorable, prices are not high.
If you're not too old and have some game, Chinese tourists might be a better bet.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2108696]I really doubt you'll find many. Even the Chinatown PRC scene is fairly slim these days, compared to a few years ago. Some of the PRC workers that were there have been cleaned up by the police (say, Broadway Hotel).
If you're into PRC Chinese escorts, better go to KL Malaysia.
I don't think there are any compelling economic reasons for PRC Chinese hookers to work in Thailand. The demand is not all that high (plenty of competition from Thais in low / mid range), the legal / immigration situation is unfavorable, prices are not high.
If you're not too old and have some game, Chinese tourists might be a better bet.[/QUOTE]Thanks, but unfortunately I'm stuck in Bangkok so going elsewhere ain't an option. With the amount of business travelers Bangkok get from China you would assume that there would be some higher-end escort agency catering to them, but if there are I'm sure it's not something us Westerners would bump into by accident. Maybe I'll have to buy a few beers for some mainlanders, see if they have any information for me, haha.
Guess I could try the tourist route, any good ideas where they tend to congregate? I guess the bars around Khaosan road might be a good place to start.
[QUOTE=Sellar;2108706]Guess I could try the tourist route, any good ideas where they tend to congregate? I guess the bars around Khaosan road might be a good place to start.[/QUOTE]Chinese tourists are all over the city. For instance, Pratunam seems to be popular, and so is the street near King Power close to Victory Monument BTS. The Erawan Shrine (at Rachaprasong intersection), seems to be a top spot on Chinese tourist itinerary. Not sure how easy Chinese tourists are to approach, or how fruitful it is -- I chatted up and spent time tour guiding two Chinese girls so far (separately), but no sex came out of it. Unlike the Thais, I get a sense they're perfectly OK to take without any intention of giving.
There is also an area for recent Chinese expats east of Huay Kwang MRT on Pracha Rat Bamphen road. The street is full of businesses catering to Chinese, almost like a new Chinatown, but for the recent arrivals. No obvious signs of naughty activity (as far as I can see), but if you speak Mandarin and can chat up people there, it [I]might[/I] offer some clues.
Another potential place of interest the building with Tesco Lotus at the corner of Yaowarat and Mangkon roads (in Chinatown). On the top floor (take the elevator), there are some tea houses, massage shops and such catering to the Chinese, and occasionally what appear to be a few rather elderly PRC hookers. Not one was doable, but they might know more, if more exists.
If Thai-Chinese are good enough, try hitting the high-end soapies like The Lord, or maybe G-Clubs.
Sorry for the lack of better info. Personally, I had a few PRC streetwalkers on the low end in Bangkok over the years, but all of that has been 4+ years ago, they don't seem to be around anymore.
Please report back if you find something.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2108951]Chinese tourists are all over the city. For instance, Pratunam seems to be popular, and so is the street near King Power close to Victory Monument BTS. The Erawan Shrine (at Rachaprasong intersection), seems to be a top spot on Chinese tourist itinerary. Not sure how easy Chinese tourists are to approach, or how fruitful it is -- I chatted up and spent time tour guiding two Chinese girls so far (separately), but no sex came out of it. Unlike the Thais, I get a sense they're perfectly OK to take without any intention of giving.
There is also an area for recent Chinese expats east of Huay Kwang MRT on Pracha Rat Bamphen road. The street is full of businesses catering to Chinese, almost like a new Chinatown, but for the recent arrivals. No obvious signs of naughty activity (as far as I can see), but if you speak Mandarin and can chat up people there, it [I]might[/I] offer some clues.
Another potential place of interest the building with Tesco Lotus at the corner of Yaowarat and Mangkon roads (in Chinatown). On the top floor (take the elevator), there are some tea houses, massage shops and such catering to the Chinese, and occasionally what appear to be a few rather elderly PRC hookers. Not one was doable, but they might know more, if more exists..[/QUOTE]Thanks for all the great info! I'll definitely check out some of those, even if nothing comes of it at least I'll still get to practice speaking Chinese. If I find anything interesting I'll report back!
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2108951]Chinese tourists are all over the city. For instance, Pratunam seems to be popular, and so is the street near King Power close to Victory Monument BTS. The Erawan Shrine (at Rachaprasong intersection), seems to be a top spot on Chinese tourist itinerary. Not sure how easy Chinese tourists are to approach, or how fruitful it is -- I chatted up and spent time tour guiding two Chinese girls so far (separately), but no sex came out of it. Unlike the Thais, I get a sense they're perfectly OK to take without any intention of giving.
There is also an area for recent Chinese expats east of Huay Kwang MRT on Pracha Rat Bamphen road. The street is full of businesses catering to Chinese, almost like a new Chinatown, but for the recent arrivals. No obvious signs of naughty activity (as far as I can see), but if you speak Mandarin and can chat up people there, it [I]might[/I] offer some clues..[/QUOTE]Thanks for all the great info! I'll definitely check out a few of those places, if nothing else I'll at least get a chance to practice my Chinese. If I find anything worth mentioning I'll report back!
[QUOTE=LadyMontbarron;2103227]Hey guys,
I'm going to stay at hotel near Nana Plaza next month. Anyone can tell me the price / duration of those Eastern Europeans, Africans, South Asians and maybe Middle Easterns? I heard about Rajah Hotel and Grace Hotel, do they only work during nighttime? Also do they go back and do business at our hotel room, or they ask us to rent a room by the hour?
Thanks![/QUOTE]I have seen girls in front of Grace as early as 6 pm and they all will go to your hotel. Price is up to the hotness of the girl your nego skills, from 1000ST to 3000 o higher ST.
The east European babes that promote the Russian clubs on Walking st, who arent available as far as I know but probably for enough money, plus the Uzbek street scanks who do look rough.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX72SkfoGAg[/URL]
[QUOTE=Wanking;2128195]The east European babes that promote the Russian clubs on Walking st, who arent available as far as I know but probably for enough money, plus the Uzbek street scanks who do look rough.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX72SkfoGAg[/URL][/QUOTE]The MO of promo girls of these Russian clubs is to get you inside and they can be quite persuasive. So long as you are outside, they will circumvent the issue of availability of the girls and their sole focus would remain on getting you inside the club, which would be ridiculously overpriced. Once you enter these joints, you can end up 'losing' a couple of thousand THB over a few drinks and that too quite fast. So, it is best to avoid them and enjoy the view from the street.
Seems to be loads of them.
[URL]https://youtu.be/WfMU-oumsAM[/URL]
[QUOTE=Wanking;2136419]Seems to be loads of them.
[URL]https://youtu.be/WfMU-oumsAM[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks for the link.
Oh my, some very savage looking branch swingers amongst the jungle.
Quaintly sure. Quality. I'm not so sure about.
Need me some Black ass to double up on me with a Thai.
This is indeed going to be a mission for me. Getting the green light from the African won't be a problem it's finding a Thai that's willing to work with The African.
[QUOTE=HorneeFalang;2138190]Thanks for the link.
Oh my, some very savage looking branch swingers amongst the jungle.
Quaintly sure. Quality. I'm not so sure about.
Need me some Black ass to double up on me with a Thai.
This is indeed going to be a mission for me. Getting the green light from the African won't be a problem it's finding a Thai that's willing to work with The African.[/QUOTE]Thanks Hornee!
Excellent idea to get Black and Asian together on a same table, asses up! Interesting also to look their faces when getting naked in room for shower and when checking pussies! Have to try that next week when arriving to BKK! I think its hard to find a good pair, but it can be also worth of it: the Sorry my bad English!
This is how I like female body fat to be distributed in a woman. Flew home today. Will be missed.
Apart from Moulin Rouge, which I know is a huge rip off, is there any place where you can hook up with a Foreign girl in Phuket?
[QUOTE=Sum12;2028808]I read a while ago that the CIS base from Rajah shifted to Royal Garden Home Hotel. So I went there and just checked out the place from outside. Could not see anyone outside or sitting in the lobby. What is the process, do I go to the reception or doorman and ask? Any idea?[/QUOTE]It is easy. Go near reception and you will be guided.
Today I fucked my second Vietnamese girl in Thailand. I love their bodies. Firm natural breasts, spinner bodies, white skin, and great asses. Mina was no exception. These girls normally frequent Spassos for 5-6 K but if you are smart, you can find them peddling their wears on We chat or Zalo during the day for 2,500-3,000 Baht. Today I set a goal to find one of these beauties. Taking a taxi down Sukhumvit, I fired up We chat and searched the people nearby. Today I spotted 4 Vietnamese girls and Mina was the best looking, most repsomsoive, and quickest to reply. We struck a quick deal for 3,000 Baht and 2 shots. Now for some intel for you guys. There is a building on Soi 4 called Nana Condo. It's pretty run down but the rooms are decent. This place is where most of the Vietnamese ladies stay. They come and go for 30 days at time to freelance.
We planned to meet at the front door of the building. She came out in a sexy pair of jean shorts with a pink see through negligee on and I almost came right in my pants. Once in the room, she immediately took her top off to reveal a wonderful pair of natural C cup breasts. We chit chatted a bit while undressing. During this chit chat, she mentioned her friend was smoking in the other room. Well this turned out to be 2 friends LOL. She then asked me if I wanted to fuck the 2 of them for 5,000 total. I thought about it seriously for a moment but decided to pass. Anyways onto the main event. She started with a BBBJ and then after a few minutes asked if I wanted to fuck her. I agreed and we started with her riding me Cow girl. This girl really knows how to put on a show. A lot of dirty talk which is obviously fake but a pleasant change from most of the reserved Thai girls. She reminded me of View from Tulip with the way she was talking. " cum inside my pussy" "fuck me harder" "I'm cumming" and so on. Next, we changed positions to mish and I stroked her clit while enjoying to look at her lovely body. Then a finish in doggy as I watched her nice ass rotate on my cock. It was a site to see. I sure love Vietnamese ladies. I have fucked them 2 times in Thailand and a few times in Laos. I don't want to travel to Vietnam as I would never come back. I would get lost in all that VN pussy and no one would ever see me again. Attached are the photos she sent me while booking and her profile photo. Round 2 was similar.
[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2176107]Today I fucked my second Vietnamese girl in Thailand. I love their bodies. Firm natural breasts, spinner bodies, white skin, and great asses. Mina was no exception. These girls normally frequent Spassos for 5-6 K but if you are smart, you can find them peddling their wears on We chat or Zalo during the day for 2,500-3,000 Baht. Today I set a goal to find one of these beauties. Taking a taxi down Sukhumvit, I fired up We chat and searched the people nearby. Today I spotted 4 Vietnamese girls and Mina was the best looking, most repsomsoive, and quickest to reply. We struck a quick deal for 3,000 Baht and 2 shots. Now for some intel for you guys. There is a building on Soi 4 called Nana Condo. It's pretty run down but the rooms are decent. This place is where most of the Vietnamese ladies stay. They come and go for 30 days at time to freelance.
We planned to meet at the front door of the building. She came out in a sexy pair of jean shorts with a pink see through negligee on and I almost came right in my pants. Once in the room, she immediately took her top off to reveal a wonderful pair of natural C cup breasts. We chit chatted a bit while undressing. During this chit chat, she mentioned her friend was smoking in the other room. Well this turned out to be 2 friemds LOL. She then asked me if I wanted to fuck the 2 of them for 5,000 total. I thought about it seriously for a moment but decided to pass. Anyways onto the main event. She started with a BBBJ and then after a few minutes asked if I wanted to fuck her. I agreed and we started with her riding me Cow girl. This girl really knows how to put on a show. A lot of dirty talk which is obviously fake but a pleasant change from most of the reserved Thai girls. She reminded me of View from Tulip with the way she was talking. " cum inside my pussy" "fuck me harder" "I'm cumming" and so on. Next, we changed positions to mish and I stroked her clit while enjoying to look at her lovely body. Then a finish in doggy as I watched her nice ass rotate on my cock. It was a site to see. I sure love Vietnamese ladies. I have fucked them 2 times in Thailand and a few times in Laos. I don't want to travel to Vietnam as I would never come back. I would get lost in all that VN pussy and no one would ever see me again. Attached are the photos she sent me while booking and her profile photo. Round 2 was similar.[/QUOTE]Viets are awesome. They have a sensuality and sexual aggressiveness that Thai gals just don't have. They are also far more physical. And that body is way better than you would ever see in any of the oilies these days. I would gladly pay 3 k for two shots with a gal of that quality.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2176242]Viets are awesome. They have a sensuality and sexual aggressiveness that Thai gals just don't have. They are also far more physical. And that body is way better than you would ever see in any of the oilies these days. I would gladly pay 3 k for two shots with a gal of that quality.[/QUOTE]I was just in KL in March, where Vietnamese now seem to make up the majority of working girls. I couldn't disagree more. They are only more physically aggressive in regards to "flipping cars", as my local cheongster friends would say. They lack curves and don't seem to have an ass. And as a lot, they aren't too pretty with certain exceptions.
I would put them down on a level with Dominicans in terms of women I would want to do again, except that Dominicans have a nice butt. My next trip is back to Colombia, and not to Viet Nam for a very good reason.
For someone to make a bold, blanket statement like that, which totally contradicts my recent experience, I have to seriously wonder if he had any experience with any of those girls, at all. And there seems to be a lot of fiction posted by prolific posters on these Asian forums, these days.
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[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2176248]I was just in KL in March, where Vietnamese now seem to make up the majority of working girls. I couldn't disagree more. They are only more physically aggressive in regards to "flipping cars", as my local cheongster friends would say. They lack curves and don't seem to have an ass. And as a lot, they aren't too pretty with certain exceptions.
I would put them down on a level with Dominicans in terms of women I would want to do again, except that Dominicans have a nice butt. My next trip is back to Colombia, and not to Viet Nam for a very good reason.
For someone to make a bold, blanket statement like that, which totally contradicts my recent experience, I have to seriously wonder if he had any experience with any of those girls, at all. And there seems to be a lot of fiction posted by prolific posters on these Asian forums, these days.[/QUOTE]You said "experience. " Does that mean one? Myself and most of the guys I know have had great experiences with Viets dating back to the glory days of Nom Penh in the late 90's early 00's. So looks like you might be the odd man out here. Lack curves? No ass? Not pretty? Huh? Far fairer skin and nicer features. I'll take them over Thai gals any day.
[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2176542]For someone to make a bold, blanket statement like that, which totally contradicts my recent experience, I have to seriously wonder if he had any experience with any of those girls, at all. And there seems to be a lot of fiction posted by you on these Asian forums, these days.
I couldn't have said it better myself. Now scadaddle on over to the Columbia forum where you belong.[/QUOTE]Contradicts almost all my experiences with Viets, Sure there have been a few duds; but overall, wow!
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2176567]Contradicts almost all my experiences with Viets, Sure there have been a few duds; but overall, wow![/QUOTE]Most Viets are awesome looking!
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2176566]Myself and most of the guys I know have had great experiences with Viets dating back to the glory days of Nom Penh in the late 90's early 00's. So looks like you might be the odd man out here. Lack curves? No ass? Not pretty? Huh? Far fairer skin and nicer features. I'll take them over Thai gals any day.[/QUOTE]It might come down to the specific scene rather than Viets vs Thais.
I haven't been lucky enough to experience the Cambodia Viet scene, but have had plenty (over 20, surely) Viets at the low-end places in Kuala Lumpur, plus a few in Vietnam and Laos as well.
With my specific experience, I'm inclined to agree with Eszpresszo. In KL, the Vietnamese are not all that great looking, and tend to offer limited service on average, although when they like you, they occasionally do far better. PRC women in same venues look better and tend to be slightly more consistent, though far from certain to provide a good service. On the downside, unlike Viets, the PRCs will never actually like you.
In Vietnam (HCMC) they're far worse, and basically only aim to cheat you, extract as much money as possible, and send you on your way with minimal, or even zero, service.
In Laos, the Vietnamese I had they've been reasonably good, although the service was basic, it was the cheap local scene after all. They tend to do their job much quicker than their local Lao counterparts, but usually tend to do a bit more (like a BBBJ and higher activity level). This might match Goatscrot's observations.
Thais seem more inclined to give you a fair price and deliver fair service for the price. They might not always shine, but unlike Viets (and PRCs), it's rare for a Thai to be truly, deliberately bad service-wise. As for the looks, it's a matter of taste, hard to call it one way or another, except to note that working girls in Thailand have mostly been dregs (firmly within the bottom 30% by looks) since 2012 or so. With Viets, there's a wider range.
[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2176606]Most Viets are awesome looking![/QUOTE]I have to agree here with BKKDog and Goatscrot. Among all South East Asians, Viets are probably the best lookers with the best overall bodies (I mean in terms of shape, proportion, skin tone, color, etc.). How a girl performs, IMHO, is far too individualistic to generalize a nationality being good or bad in bed. That said I have never had a bad lay with a Viet girl.
I have had my fair share of Viets in their homeland as well as in Singapore. Particularly the ones in BRIX will absolutely blow you away.
[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2176107]Today I fucked my second Vietnamese girl in Thailand. I love their bodies. Firm natural breasts, spinner bodies, white skin, and great asses. Mina was no exception. These girls normally frequent Spassos for 5-6 K but if you are smart, you can find them peddling their wears on We chat or Zalo during the day for 2,500-3,000 Baht. Today I set a goal to find one of these beauties. Taking a taxi down Sukhumvit, I fired up We chat and searched the people nearby. Today I spotted 4 Vietnamese girls and Mina was the best looking, most repsomsoive, and quickest to reply. We struck a quick deal for 3,000 Baht and 2 shots. Now for some intel for you guys. There is a building on Soi 4 called Nana Condo. It's pretty run down but the rooms are decent. This place is where most of the Vietnamese ladies stay. They come and go for 30 days at time to freelance.[/QUOTE]Not sure if I was in the same apartment. I went to a side unit. The place reminded me some of the apartment casas in Santiago. No beds, mattresses on the floor. It was pretty bad by Bangkok standard. She asked 300 be for the room which I refused. The place is nowhere as good as a short time room.
[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2176107]Today I fucked my second Vietnamese girl in Thailand. I love their bodies. Firm natural breasts, spinner bodies, white skin, and great asses. Mina was no exception. These girls normally frequent Spassos for 5-6 K but if you are smart, you can find them peddling their wares on We chat or Zalo during the day for 2,500-3,000 Baht. Today I set a goal to find one of these beauties. Taking a taxi down Sukhumvit, I fired up We chat and searched the people nearby. Today I spotted 4 Vietnamese girls and Mina was the best looking, most responsive, and quickest to reply. We struck a quick deal for 3,000 Baht and 2 shots. Now for some intel for you guys. There is a building on Soi 4 called Nana Condo. It's pretty run down but the rooms are decent. This place is where most of the Vietnamese ladies stay. They come and go for 30 days at time to freelance.
We planned to meet at the front door of the building. She came out in a sexy pair of jean shorts with a pink see through negligee on and I almost came right in my pants. Once in the room, she immediately took her top off to reveal a wonderful pair of natural C cup breasts. We chit chatted a bit while undressing. During this chit chat, she mentioned her friend was smoking in the other room. Well this turned out to be 2 friends LOL. She then asked me if I wanted to fuck the 2 of them for 5,000 total. I thought about it seriously for a moment but decided to pass. Anyways onto the main event. She started with a BBBJ and then after a few minutes asked if I wanted to fuck her. I agreed and we started with her riding me Cow girl. This girl really knows how to put on a show. A lot of dirty talk which is obviously fake but a pleasant change from most of the reserved Thai girls. She reminded me of View from Tulip with the way she was talking. " cum inside my pussy" "fuck me harder" "I'm cumming" and so on. Next, we changed positions to mish and I stroked her clit while enjoying to look at her lovely body. Then a finish in doggy as I watched her nice ass rotate on my cock. It was a site to see. I sure love Vietnamese ladies. I have fucked them 2 times in Thailand and a few times in Laos. I don't want to travel to Vietnam as I would never come back. I would get lost in all that VN pussy and no one would ever see me again. Attached are the photos she sent me while booking and her profile photo. Round 2 was similar.[/QUOTE]Great report, thanks! Foreign-girl haunts are most welcome. Is Nana Condo also known as Nana City Inn?
[URL]https://www.hipflat.com/projects/nana-condo-setbyl[/URL]
[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2178471]I have to agree here with BKKDog and Goatscrot. Among all South East Asians, Viets are probably the best lookers with the best overall bodies (I mean in terms of shape, proportion, skin tone, color, etc.). How a girl performs, IMHO, is far too individualistic to generalize a nationality being good or bad in bed. That said I have never had a bad lay with a Viet girl.
I have had my fair share of Viets in their homeland as well as in Singapore. Particularly the ones in BRIX will absolutely blow you away.[/QUOTE]For the sake of full disclosure, I have never been to Vietnam, but I have had my fair share of Viets too.
One of the most beautiful girls I ever shagged was a Viet FL that I met in Brix Bar, Singapore. She was a very nice girl too.
I have also torn myself away from very sexy local Indo girls on rare occasions in the former Alexis Hotel, Jakarta when a particular Viet girl there was too smokin' hot to let go by and I received really great professional service on those occasions.
My experience with Viets in Macau and HKG is a little different.
In Macau the Viets for the most part take a back seat to the Chinese girls & "Korean / Japanese" models. Thus, many Viets are assigned to the thigh massage or Japanese bath service. The ones that do make the lineup, IMHO, are not nearly as pretty as the Chinese models, but they ARE significantly less expensive. In all fairness, I know I am comparing model quality Chinese to regular lineup girl quality Vietnamese. But I do not recall ever seeing a Vietnamese "model" in any Macau sauna.
In HKG a few years back, I used to see many Viet FL's hanging out in Wanchai bars in HKG. Some were very good looking. Some were real hustlers. And some were really nice girls. It varied, but it was fairly easy to spot the hustlers during the audition and getting to know you stage in the bar. I am not sure if Viets visit HKG anymore in the same numbers that they used to. Chinese visa rules were tightened and that had a big impact the last time I was visiting HKG.
Likewise, there used to be a large number of Viet girls in Phnom Pehn bars, but now a days they are almost all gone.
So that sums up my Vietnamese exposure. I like them and expect I will have more pleasant trysts with them in the future. I am still hesitant to visit Vietnam, however. I think I would like the country and the people, but from what I hear the punting scene leaves much to be desired so I will stick with meeting these girls in Singapore and Macau mostly and occasionally in Jakarta too.
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[QUOTE=Trevor2522;2178884]Great report, thanks! Foreign-girl haunts are most welcome. Is Nana Condo also known as Nana City Inn?
[URL]https://www.hipflat.com/projects/nana-condo-setbyl[/URL][/QUOTE]It is the white building behind it. I have been with her. The room is not great, just mattresses on the floor.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2176566] Far fairer skin and nicer features. I'll take them over Thai gals any day.[/QUOTE]I think it would obvious to anyone who actually visited Thailand, that Thai people don't all have the same skin tone. Fairer skin? I've seen some lighter Thai girls and some who were caramel colored. And that was in my first hours in the country. I would think someone who purports to be omnipresent in BKK, would have noticed that.
Similarly, I have observed that Vietnamese girls do have a range of skin tones, as well. I was approached by one at ACE last March who was just plain white, and didn't look Asian. If she said she was Greek, I would have believed her. But she was a anomaly. So, to make a generalization like really makes me wonder what is your actual experience with these girls? I was not on Phnom Penh in the 90's, but I was in a Vietnamese shopping mall in Garland, TX yesterday afternoon. Not much to see there, and I can't believe immigrating to the US is going to change their appearance that much. Nothing anywhere as interesting as what you would see walking around Bangkok or even Kuala Lumpur.
However, if you believe that Vietnamese girls are so great, then why aren't you doing trip reports from Vietnam? Why are you perpetually posting on the Thailand forums? I noticed that you just made a post on a Bangkok soapie thread. Now if you can afford a visit to a soapie, you can afford a ticket to HCMC. I just looked at Skyscanner, and you can get a flight to SGN tomorrow for as low as $56 USD. So what's keeping you from mongering in Vietnam if you like their women so much? Why are you in Thailand if you prefer Vietnamese girls? Your story doesn't make sense.
[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2179749]I think it would obvious to anyone who actually visited Thailand, that Thai people don't all have the same skin tone. Fairer skin? I've seen some lighter Thai girls and some who were caramel colored. And that was in my first hours in the country. I would think someone who purports to be omnipresent in BKK, would have noticed that.
Similarly, I have observed that Vietnamese girls do have a range of skin tones, as well. I was approached by one at ACE last March who was just plain white, and didn't look Asian. If she said she was Greek, I would have believed her. But she was a anomaly. So, to make a generalization like really makes me wonder what is your actual experience with these girls? I was not on Phnom Penh in the 90's, but I was in a Vietnamese shopping mall in Garland, TX yesterday afternoon. Not much to see there, and I can't believe immigrating to the US is going to change their appearance that much. Nothing anywhere as interesting as what you would see walking around Bangkok or even Kuala Lumpur.
However, if you believe that Vietnamese girls are so great, then why aren't you doing trip reports from Vietnam? Why are you perpetually posting on the Thailand forums? I noticed that you just made a post on a Bangkok soapie thread. Now if you can afford a visit to a soapie, you can afford a ticket to HCMC. I just looked at Skyscanner, and you can get a flight to SGN tomorrow for as low as $56 USD. So what's keeping you from mongering in Vietnam if you like their women so much? Why are you in Thailand if you prefer Vietnamese girls? Your story doesn't make sense.[/QUOTE]I'm unclear as to why you are pressing the issue about why Goats is in Thailand. Him and myself like Vietnamese girls. I personally have never been to Vietnam yet and maybe he hasn't either. What does that have to do with anything? I apologize mate but I really don't understand what you are trying to say here. Why is it necessary for you to analyze his lifestyle, posts, and women he says he likes? Just my two cents worth.
[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2179749]I think it would obvious to anyone who actually visited Thailand, that Thai people don't all have the same skin tone. Fairer skin? I've seen some lighter Thai girls and some who were caramel colored. And that was in my first hours in the country. I would think someone who purports to be omnipresent in BKK, would have noticed that.
Similarly, I have observed that Vietnamese girls do have a range of skin tones, as well. I was approached by one at ACE last March who was just plain white, and didn't look Asian. If she said she was Greek, I would have believed her. But she was a anomaly. So, to make a generalization like really makes me wonder what is your actual experience with these girls? I was not on Phnom Penh in the 90's, but I was in a Vietnamese shopping mall in Garland, TX yesterday afternoon. Not much to see there, and I can't believe immigrating to the US is going to change their appearance that much. Nothing anywhere as interesting as what you would see walking around Bangkok or even Kuala Lumpur.
However, if you believe that Vietnamese girls are so great, then why aren't you doing trip reports from Vietnam? Why are you perpetually posting on the Thailand forums? I noticed that you just made a post on a Bangkok soapie thread. Now if you can afford a visit to a soapie, you can afford a ticket to HCMC. I just looked at Skyscanner, and you can get a flight to SGN tomorrow for as low as $56 USD. So what's keeping you from mongering in Vietnam if you like their women so much? Why are you in Thailand if you prefer Vietnamese girls? Your story doesn't make sense.[/QUOTE]Dude, I've lived here for over 18 years. Why Thailand at that point? Did not think the gals were all that pretty then, or all that skilled. It was volume and cost. An veritable endless supply for 500-1k Baht (12.50 - 25 USD at the time). Also because you could live a 5 star lifestyle on a 3 star budget. Used to get the JW Marriott buffet for 12.50 USD with their discount card. Traveling was cheap from BKK as well and back before the Chinese were able to travel, uncrowded and very easy.
Believe me, at this point I am not here for the Thai gals; not in the least. That ship sailed a long time ago. Paying way more for the same so so service? No thanks. My social circle is here, I still think BKK is an amazing eating town, it is still sort of cheap compared with other places, and I have many other things that I do to occupy my time. But will I live the rest of my life here? Even 5 years ago that would have been a resounding yes. Now, not so sure. I will check out South America and probably Portugal and some other places in Europe.
Why didn't I move to VN in 99 when I came to SE Asia? Well, it was a different place then, as was Cambo, which is where you went for Viet gals then. But yes, I have been to the 'Nam. Viets are great in the sack, but I wouldn't want to have one as a GF. Way to intense and mercenary. Make Thai gals look like Hello Kitty. BTW, my experience with Koreans is the same. Awesome lovers; would never want one as a companion. Thai gals are easy going companions. If she's not, then you've done something wrong.
I find Viets overall better looking than Thais. They tend to have more Chinese features, and well, to put it bluntly, I am just not attracted to the Isaan look in the least. I like Northern, Central, and Southern Thai gals, but they are few and far between in the P4 P scene. Some of the gals from the NE provinces bordering Laos like Nakhon Pathom have some lookers due to the Lao and Viet blood that is mixed in, but the gals from the provinces bordering Cambo do nothing for me. And neither do Cambo gals to tell you the truth.
I too am from the Metroplex. Before I moved to Asia, hell, before I even came to Asia I would drool over the Viet gals at my favorite pho places and Asian grocery stores in the East Ft Worth and Haltom City area.
Funny, most of the gals I find really attractive in BKK are the Korean and Chinese tourist gals. They just blow the local lasses out of the water.
[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2179749]
I was not on Phnom Penh in the 90's, but I was in a Vietnamese shopping mall in Garland, TX yesterday afternoon. Not much to see there, and I can't believe immigrating to the US is going to change their appearance that much. Nothing anywhere as interesting as what you would see walking around Bangkok or even Kuala Lumpur.[/QUOTE]Is there a Thai and Malaysian community near you in Texas so you can do a more logical apples-to-apples comparison between various local Asians? You might be observing the same phenomenon I observed while living in Southern California near Thai, Philippno and Vietnamese communities while I was also traveling to monger in each of those countries.
Don't know if I could explain why, but the girls who remained in their home country were always more beautiful than the ones who were brought to the USA by their families, fiances or managed to move there on their own. Not that it was some weird optical illusion. The ones who lived in their home country were definitely more beautiful.
Moreover, the most beautiful ones I met in each of those home countries had never been to the USA while less attractive ones often had a story about visiting the USA at least once with an aunt, parent or boyfriend. I had my own theories for why this might be so. But nothing that fully explained this phenomenon of the better looking girls remaining in their home countries while the less attractives ones (even their less atteactive whole families) somehow and for some reason found their way to the USA.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2180545]Funny, most of the gals I find really attractive in BKK are the Korean and Chinese tourist gals. They just blow the local lasses out of the water.[/QUOTE]
So true. To make things worse, over the last few years, average-looking local lasses also blow the working girls out of the water as well, with very few exceptions. It's a double-blowout when it comes to looks. We're more or less scraping the bottom of the barrel now.
Fortunately, as you said, Thailand has plenty of other redeeming qualities.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2181291]So true. To make things worse, over the last few years, average-looking local lasses also blow the working girls out of the water as well, with very few exceptions. It's a double-blowout when it comes to looks. We're more or less scraping the bottom of the barrel now.
Fortunately, as you said, Thailand has plenty of other redeeming qualities.[/QUOTE]Yep, the P4 P gals, especially the ones that are working the Sukhumvit area are not great looking. Bottom of the barrel. There are some very pretty gals on the dek sideline sites, geared toward locals, but most have a list of rules a mile long, and would just not be of interest to me. And the regular non-P4 P gals here have attitude over the moon. You seem them dragging their local boyfriends around by the short and curlies. Combined with their ridiculous monetary expectations, they are becoming almost every bit as intolerable as Western women, and the local lasses here are also putting on weight due to constant comfort eating at dessert shops where they drown their sorrows because they have not found the multi-millionaire that is going to spend it all on them. A far cry from the days when I first landed in this country and every gal you were with put toothpaste on your toothbrush, folded your clothes while you were in the shower, and served you food and drink at the table. That's over.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2181383]A far cry from the days when I first landed in this country and every gal you were with put toothpaste on your toothbrush, folded your clothes while you were in the shower, and served you food and drink at the table. That's over.[/QUOTE]Fuck! Circa 1967? "Me So Horny!" I once worked with a guy who said in the sixties when he arrive Pattaya, there was only jungle there beyond Beach Rd.
"A far cry from the days when I first landed in this country and every gal you were with put toothpaste on your toothbrush, folded your clothes while you were in the shower, and served you food and drink at the table."
Yes what wonderful memories. And your point about comfort food for the fatties is very accurate. I cannot believe the body shape of the Thai ladies these days. Thai women are not known for keeping fit and attending gym. It appears once they hit 23 they thicken out and adopt a linebacker type build.
I am sure it was never like 20 years ago?
I was recently in Ubon Ratchatani and saw many beautiful looking girls, however the fatties were also thick on the ground albeit nice looking faces.
Sugar really is an amazing product and the Thai's can't get enough of the stuff.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2181383]And the regular non-P4 P gals here have attitude over the moon... A far cry from the days when I first landed in this country and every gal you were with put toothpaste on your toothbrush, folded your clothes while you were in the shower, and served you food and drink at the table. That's over.[/QUOTE]Before 2012 or so, regular Thai girls I was meeting (mostly online) were great -- very easy to be with, generally pretty, not too self-confident or demanding, very easy to be with. Most were happy to jump into bed with me on the first date, the others at most date 3-4 if they tried to prove they really were [I]good[/I] girls.
This seems to no longer be the case, to the point that I stopped trawling Tinder, ThaiFriendly and such. With enough time and effort, it's still not especially hard to line up dates and eventually shag someone. However, average quality is down, attitude is worse and they seem to expect more than before, so it's just not pleasant, easy, nor worthwhile anymore. For a Farang, showing up used to be enough, and now we have to work to impress them (on their terms), which I don't care to do. There's just too many misses and frustrations (either the girl is not that great, or the hookup doesn't happen), that paying a hooker is just better value given the total time spent.
Meanwhile, most other Westerners seem to think dating Thai girls online is still the most amazing and easiest thing ever (sure it is compared to UK or the US Midwest, especially for an over-30 guy). For some time, I though I was just getting too jaded or too old to enjoy that game. Thank you for sharing your experience and dispelling that notion.
Sorry for getting way off topic for this thread.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2181522]Before 2012 or so, regular Thai girls I was meeting (mostly online) were great -- very easy to be with, generally pretty, not too self-confident or demanding, very easy to be with. Most were happy to jump into bed with me on the first date, the others at most date 3-4 if they tried to prove they really were [I]good[/I] girls.
This seems to no longer be the case, to the point that I stopped trawling Tinder, ThaiFriendly and such. With enough time and effort, it's still not especially hard to line up dates and eventually shag someone. However, average quality is down, attitude is worse and they seem to expect more than before, so it's just not pleasant, easy, nor worthwhile anymore. For a Farang, showing up used to be enough, and now we have to work to impress them (on their terms), which I don't care to do. There's just too many misses and frustrations (either the girl is not that great, or the hookup doesn't happen), that paying a hooker is just better value given the total time spent.
Meanwhile, most other Westerners seem to think dating Thai girls online is still the most amazing and easiest thing ever (sure it is compared to UK or the US Midwest, especially for an over-30 guy). For some time, I though I was just getting too jaded or too old to enjoy that game. Thank you for sharing your experience and dispelling that notion.
Sorry for getting way off topic for this thread.[/QUOTE]You are spot on. Yes, I agree, 5 plus years ago the culture was very different. Events since 2014 has seen a very conservative vein appear with Thais. 5 years ago if you walked on a uni campus you would see short skirts and tight shirts; no more. Gals were far more overt about their sexuality. But the current climate has ushered in a period of extreme modesty. Just yesterday I read about a Thai gal who has been posting pictures of herself flashing her underwear and she is being ripped apart by Thais on social media sites. And these are not old people; this is the attitude of the youth. Sad to see this as just a few years back it seemed that Thai women were finally starting to embrace their sexuality and flaunt it. That's over for the present time. I am afraid the current generation will continue to be very conservative. It is almost as if Thai gals now look to exhibit an air of frigidity; as if sex is beneath them, and something only the poor people do. This has even extended to the P4 P gals who are even less likely to engage in or actually let themselves enjoy any kink.
Date a regular gal here now? No way. But I know lots of young dudes who do. And they are absolutely nutless.
[QUOTE=NakedGunz;2181409]Fuck! Circa 1967? "Me So Horny!" I once worked with a guy who said in the sixties when he arrive Pattaya, there was only jungle there beyond Beach Rd.[/QUOTE]Then the Allied Americans came for R&R and turned Pattaya what it is today. God Bless America!. Sorta.
Rajah hotel has reopened, but doesn't seem to have Russian hookers anymore.
I went to Royal Garden Home hotel, and asked the Thai pimp in the lobby. He was reluctant at first (told me no ladies for some reason, maybe I'm not their typical customer), but then changed his mind and took me upstairs to see them. About 10 girls, mostly old and worn, maybe 1-2 are somewhat doable. Unfortunately, the price he quoted (showed me a piece of cardboard) was 4200 baht, way too steep for a one-and-done Russian. I'm fairly sure that's negotiable but didn't bother negotiating since none of the ladies were all that great. However, there's one I'd consider doing for 3000 or so. Did anybody manage to get a lower price at that place recently, and how much was it?
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2186420]Rajah hotel has reopened, but doesn't seem to have Russian hookers anymore.
I went to Royal Garden Home hotel, and asked the Thai pimp in the lobby. He was reluctant at first (told me no ladies for some reason, maybe I'm not their typical customer), but then changed his mind and took me upstairs to see them. About 10 girls, mostly old and worn, maybe 1-2 are somewhat doable. Unfortunately, the price he quoted (showed me a piece of cardboard) was 4200 baht, way too steep for a one-and-done Russian. I'm fairly sure that's negotiable but didn't bother negotiating since none of the ladies were all that great. However, there's one I'd consider doing for 3000 or so. Did anybody manage to get a lower price at that place recently, and how much was it?[/QUOTE]Even I was showed the price of 4200, I said I am not going to pay you that, he went down to 4000, I said no, then he went down to 3500, then well we finally settled for 3000, even I was showed 10 girls and 2 of them were really beautiful, I chose the one with big boobs, I get nervous at these things and I do want the girl to be nice to me, so before starting I gave her a tip of 500 and well she became super nice to me, so the total damage was of 3500 but it was not worth it. I forgot her name, but well she was really beautiful.
BTW do you any any experience for Phuket?, I am planning to go there next month and I know the Russian scene is not good, they rip you off there, but any tips for getting a White Girl in Phuket?
My Uzbek lady friend in BKK tells me that for the past few weeks, there has been a crack down by Thai Police / Army on Uzbek WG's at Shock39, etc. The WG's are taken to the police station, forced to take [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] / blood tests and depending on the test results, imprisoned and deported. Anyone heard anything like this?
[QUOTE=MeatMan;2182368]Then the Allied Americans came for R&R and turned Pattaya what it is today. God Bless America!. Sorta.[/QUOTE]That was a good democracy they exported.
Not the current one.
[QUOTE=MeatMan;2182368]Then the Allied Americans came for R&R and turned Pattaya what it is today. God Bless America!. Sorta.[/QUOTE]Are&are GIs rarely saw Pattaya. They spent most of their time on Petchaburi extension and rarely got into trouble. Pattaya was ruined by other farangs and the Chonburi mob.
[QUOTE=Kaintuck;2191124]Are&are GIs rarely saw Pattaya. They spent most of their time on Petchaburi extension and rarely got into trouble. Pattaya was ruined by other farangs and the Chonburi mob.[/QUOTE]Thanks for setting the record straight. It seems to be some myth on the internet that Pattaya was some wonderful beach town until American G. I. s showed up and ruined it.
[QUOTE=BloodRed;2189767]My Uzbek lady friend in BKK tells me that for the past few weeks, there has been a crack down by Thai Police / Army on Uzbek WG's at Shock39, etc. The WG's are taken to the police station, forced to take .../ blood tests and depending on the test results, imprisoned and deported. Anyone heard anything like this?[/QUOTE]There certainly was a police presence in front of Grace Hotel a week or two ago which seemed to be keeping all the foreign girls away. I did run into a Tadjik inside the hotel, but only a few local girls outside.
Very few Africans on the street that weekend as well. I only saw one.
[QUOTE=GregHowe;2191546]There certainly was a police presence in front of Grace Hotel a week or two ago which seemed to be keeping all the foreign girls away. I did run into a Tadjik inside the hotel, but only a few local girls outside.
Very few Africans on the street that weekend as well. I only saw one.[/QUOTE]Thai police and media often complain about foreign working girls. But go to any Western country and your find hundreds and hundreds of Thai working girls working in Thai massage parlours and No one complains about them. In New Zealand there are many Thai girls advertising and No one nor the police complain. Grow up Thailand, its an international world now.
[QUOTE=Nickc;2192221]Thai police and media often complain about foreign working girls. But go to any Western country and your find hundreds and hundreds of Thai working girls working in Thai massage parlours and No one complains about them. In New Zealand there are many Thai girls advertising and No one nor the police complain. Grow up Thailand, its an international world now.[/QUOTE]Evidently, economics is not your forte. In NZ no one complains about Thai hookers because if not for them people would be shagging sheep.
In any market and in any industry, when there is an incursion by foreign talent when local talent is available in plenty and that local talent is not making enough money, there will be protests. Think about what would NZ farmers do if the country decided to import dairy products. There would be riots I reckon.
[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2192248]Evidently, economics is not your forte. In NZ no one complains about Thai hookers because if not for them people would be shagging sheep.
In any market and in any industry, when there is an incursion by foreign talent when local talent is available in plenty and that local talent is not making enough money, there will be protests. Think about what would NZ farmers do if the country decided to import dairy products. There would be riots I reckon.[/QUOTE]Possibly a free trade agreement regarding sex workers will be on the table at the next ASEAN meeting. LOL.
Blankicelesly it appears ignorance is your forte. There are many World nationalities of working girls in NZ. Why would you think theres only Thai girls? Thats just ignorance. It has nothing to do with economics. Having more variety attracts more customers, its simple common sense that Thai's fail to grasp. And as for your truely ignorant argument "what would NZ farmers do if the country decided to import dairy products, there would be riots I reckon. ". Many countries DO freely import dairy products into New Zealand. There are no bans at all AND there are no riots. Wake up. In Phuket the tuk tuk drivers were paid by the local Thai bars to protest the presence of Russian massage parlours. So the Police cracked down on them. Thailand and Russian have the same ignorant sense of business, they think that banning the competition is good for business, but its the opposite that applies, it attracts less customers and actually lowers business. There are Thai girls World Wide and no one complains about it.
[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2192248]Evidently, economics is not your forte. In NZ no one complains about Thai hookers because if not for them people would be shagging sheep.
In any market and in any industry, when there is an incursion by foreign talent when local talent is available in plenty and that local talent is not making enough money, there will be protests. Think about what would NZ farmers do if the country decided to import dairy products. There would be riots I reckon.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Nickc;2192221]Thai police and media often complain about foreign working girls. But go to any Western country and your find hundreds and hundreds of Thai working girls working in Thai massage parlours and No one complains about them. In New Zealand there are many Thai girls advertising and No one nor the police complain. Grow up Thailand, its an international world now.[/QUOTE]There is no longer an economic necessity for white NZ girls or white Australian girls to lie on their backs for a living. The standard of living is very high in those countries and girls are better educated nowadays. There are plenty of other options available for them to make a legitimate income. If all else fails, there is always welfare.
The void is readily filled by Thai, Korean and PRC girls who go to Australia or NZ in their thousands to study. As their English is very poor, the only part time jobs available to them are waitressing in Asian restaurants, cleaning or prostitution. While there, they drop their subject load to the bare minimum (so they don't get deported) and get on with earning money to pay their fees, to support themselves and to send home.
I know one Thai hooker in Sydney who has been studying management (or mann-et-ment in thanglish) at a technical school for the past 5-years. She only enrols in one subject a semester and keeps getting her student visa extended. School takes up 2-half days a week and she works as prostitute 4-days a week (at two different brothels). She also sees clients at her flat after school. She's on the pill and skips the placebo days, so effectively can work all year without getting a period. She makes around $3,000 a week, tax free. Despite her being here for 5-years, her English is abysmal.
[QUOTE=Nickc;2192611]Blankicelesly it appears ignorance is your forte. There are many World nationalities of working girls in NZ. Why would you think theres only Thai girls? Thats just ignorance. It has nothing to do with economics. Having more variety attracts more customers, its simple common sense that Thai's fail to grasp. And as for your truely ignorant argument "what would NZ farmers do if the country decided to import dairy products, there would be riots I reckon. ". Many countries DO freely import dairy products into New Zealand. There are no bans at all AND there are no riots. Wake up. In Phuket the tuk tuk drivers were paid by the local Thai bars to protest the presence of Russian massage parlours. So the Police cracked down on them. Thailand and Russian have the same ignorant sense of business, they think that banning the competition is good for business, but its the opposite that applies, it attracts less customers and actually lowers business. There are Thai girls World Wide and no one complains about it.[/QUOTE]I am definitely ignorant about the WG situation NZ and I don't think I am missing much. I mentioned Thai girls, because that was the point you raised. As for economics you should perhaps read published data by the Reserve Bank of NZ for more insight into export / import activities in NZ.
I think you are sadly mistaken about why mongers come to Thailand. Most definitely 9/10 guys come come to bang Thai girls. They are not there for the variety. That works for places like Hong Kong, Macau, Singapore, Dubai, and other so-called developed markets where locals do not offer the services required.
As for tourism numbers in Phuket, please go back and check facts. It is growing in double digits sir.
[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2192617]I am definitely ignorant about the WG situation NZ and I don't think I am missing much. I mentioned Thai girls, because that was the point you raised. As for economics you should perhaps read published data by the Reserve Bank of NZ for more insight into export / import activities in NZ.
I think you are sadly mistaken about why mongers come to Thailand. Most definitely 9/10 guys come come to bang Thai girls. They are not there for the variety. That works for places like Hong Kong, Macau, Singapore, Dubai, and other so-called developed markets where locals do not offer the services required.
As for tourism numbers in Phuket, please go back and check facts. It is growing in double digits sir.[/QUOTE]I for one go to Thailand to bang Thai girls. If I wanted a wide variety I wouldn't leave Australia as we have all nationalities.
Been looking by Asok station where they used to hang out and haven't seen anyone in the last 2 days. Saw one on Soi 7 this morning and that's it. Police kick them all out?
[QUOTE=Nickc;2192611]Blankicelesly it appears ignorance is your forte. There are many World nationalities of working girls in NZ. Why would you think theres only Thai girls? Thats just ignorance. It has nothing to do with economics. Having more variety attracts more customers, its simple common sense that Thai's fail to grasp..[/QUOTE]Agree. I tried Shock39 a few days ago and it was absolute garbage and half empty. Most of the Uzbek WG's are gone, and it was only Thai and some Russians. Less customers also.
[QUOTE=BloodRed;2192985]Agree. I tried Shock39 a few days ago and it was absolute garbage and half empty. Most of the Uzbek WG's are gone, and it was only Thai and some Russians. Less customers also.[/QUOTE]Amazing, isn't it? Have you heard of a phenomenon called low season?
[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2193039]Amazing, isn't it? Have you heard of a phenomenon called low season?[/QUOTE]It has nothing to do with that as I was in the same disco 3 weeks prior to that and it was full. This whole crackdown on Uzbek ladies has started in the last 3 weeks.
I can confirm that Thailand seems to be cracking down on visas for foreign girls. I've just had a word with one who had planned to get her visa in one of Thailand's neighbouring countries and she may have to leave said country without having got her visa. This pisses me off no end as I had booked the girl for my upcoming 6-week trip to Samui & Koh Tao.
[QUOTE=RobJones;2192669]I for one go to Thailand to bang Thai girls. If I wanted a wide variety I wouldn't leave Australia as we have all nationalities.[/QUOTE]Yes may have all nationalities, but good hookers providing reliable service, you are better off with the Asian ones in Australia, mainly Thai or Korean most likely (best hookers in Australia. Generalising). Yet Aussies go to Thailand to get more to choose from, prettier girls, and much cheaper of course if you want more than 30 minutes. Once you have tried the variety available in Europe, you would give up local mongering very quickly (hypothetically). Aussie born hookers are usually absolutely terrible (with rare exceptions).
On other topic, hookers from other countries can get into NZ much easier than Aus, so I expect the quality and variety available would be much better than Australia by a large margin. NZ still probably cannot compete with Europe (e.g. Germany) for best value for money girls.
Hi! I have a thai GF when visiting BKK. We would like to try a threesome but she she would only look for "farang lady". How can we make it possible?? Thanks for advice!
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2180545]Funny, most of the gals I find really attractive in BKK are the Korean and Chinese tourist gals. They just blow the local lasses out of the water.[/QUOTE]Those well dressed Korean and Chinese girls in BKK, are not the average looking Korean or Chinese girls doing hard time back home.
Looking for feedback on this girl, has an amazing smile, lovely body, around 30 hangs out in Mixx and similar places nearby. Very fluent English as well. Anyone go with her, any feedback would be appreciated. High price though. Just want to know if any of you experienced her before I plonk down the bucks.
Thanks in advance.
Osaka.
[QUOTE=Osaka;2200875]Looking for feedback on this girl, has an amazing smile, lovely body, around 30 hangs out in Mixx and similar places nearby. Very fluent English as well. Anyone go with her, any feedback would be appreciated. High price though. Just want to know if any of you experienced her before I plonk down the bucks.
Thanks in advance.
Osaka.[/QUOTE]Depends what high price are we talking about!?
A reader might decide to try her if the price is not higher than Hotel Moscow DXB.
[QUOTE=JoseNosay;2200400]Those well dressed Korean and Chinese girls in BKK, are not the average looking Korean or Chinese girls doing hard time back home.[/QUOTE]Every nation has its tree climbers. And most of us are not interested in average looking women.
[QUOTE=Osaka;2200875]Looking for feedback on this girl, has an amazing smile, lovely body, around 30 hangs out in Mixx and similar places nearby. Very fluent English as well. Anyone go with her, any feedback would be appreciated. High price though. Just want to know if any of you experienced her before I plonk down the bucks.
Thanks in advance.
Osaka.[/QUOTE]It's a roll-of-the-dice. "Lilly" sounds like a someone I met in Bangkok several years ago. She was in her late 20's, blonde hair, spoke conversational English, over 6-feet tall (taller in high heels), and an athletic body like Serena Williams. I thought she was Russian. It was one of my last few nights in Bangkok before flying home so I told her I wasn't interested, but like a good car salesman, she kept talking and she hooked me and reeled me in. I forgot how much I paid, but it was significantly more than what I would normally pay for a short time. Luckily for me, she turned out to be a nympho in bed and stayed for over 2 hours. She admitted that she wasn't Russian, but Bosnian and a muslim. She gave me the backstory of how she ended up in Bangkok and why she was working to fund her "holiday. " I saw her the next night before I flew home. I have to admit that it was one of my most memorable experience in Thailand, but I think I was very lucky.
Sometimes you just have to roll-the-dice and hope for the best. GOOD LUCK!
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2202824]Every nation has its tree climbers. And most of us are not interested in average looking women.[/QUOTE]The tree climber is also not interested in average peasants. From a Classist POV nationality and the common things matters less, you still have to convince the ambitious tree climber that you are a better looking Bezos or a less attractive Bourdain.
[QUOTE=JoseNosay;2202896]The tree climber is also not interested in average peasants. From a Classist POV nationality and the common things matters less, you still have to convince the ambitious tree climber that you are a better looking Bezos or a less attractive Bourdain.[/QUOTE]Kinda depends on if you are looking to rent short term, long term, or to buy. But yes, I would agree that nationality matters a bit less these days. And unfortunately some guys are willing to pay tree climbers a premium. Can't believe some of the gals I see some of the younger guys with. Wouldn't [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] on them if they were on fire myself.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2202901]Kinda depends on if you are looking to rent short term, long term, or to buy.. [/QUOTE]If you are savvy shopper the deal-seeking pattern will carry on into mongering, if you don't mind buying at Top price, then you will have less time to worry about price.
[QUOTE]Can't believe some of the gals I see some of the younger guys with. Wouldn't phiss on them if they were on fire myself.[/QUOTE]The same way an unattractive guy can pin-down a stunner.
A repulsive hag can pull a Stud. Sometimes there is more to it than the logical assumptions.
[QUOTE=JoseNosay;2202912]...
A repulsive hag can pull a Stud. Sometimes there is more to it than the logical assumptions.[/QUOTE]Sometimes we have to stop looking at things in terms of classical prostitution. The beer bars in Thailand are more a case of women contriving to have males hotter than thelselves delivered to their doorstep via the tourism industry. Those MILFs shag men who are most of the time the better-looking by far of the two. Never mind the money changing hands. Women are clever and often get what they want or what is good for them while men continue to see themselves as the abusers / oppressors.
[QUOTE=JoseNosay;2202912]If you are savvy shopper the deal-seeking pattern will carry on into mongering, if you don't mind buying at Top price, then you will have less time to worry about price.
The same way an unattractive guy can pin-down a stunner.
A repulsive hag can pull a Stud. Sometimes there is more to it than the logical assumptions.[/QUOTE]Sadly, I have found very few stunners in my almost 19 years of residence in LOS that provide an experience worth paying top dollar for. Ideally there'd be 9s and 10th that provide a complete PSE including A+, rimming, CIM, MSOG, etc; if one was willing to pay. Sadly so many punters, especially the newer ones and those from this hemisphere just really don't put a premium on performance. It is all about putting the "stunner" notch in the belt. If punters demanded performance, the gals would deliver. Most don't, so they get away with poor service and the scoff when a dude actually expects them to put on a good show.
[QUOTE=XXL;2202917]Sometimes we have to stop looking at things in terms of classical prostitution. The beer bars in Thailand are more a case of women contriving to have males hotter than thelselves delivered to their doorstep via the tourism industry. Those MILFs shag men who are most of the time the better-looking by far of the two. Never mind the money changing hands. Women are clever and often get what they want or what is good for them while men continue to see themselves as the abusers / oppressors.[/QUOTE]Its been that way as far as the sex trade existed. In pre-British empire times, elite level females were sold directly to high status males. The best bred were taught and trained by their mothers or head slave without losing virginity as she had to be sexually elaborate and virgin at once in order to get the best sale. The lesser females were sold at low cost, most were resold at discount or profit depending on who was the buyer, the least attractive slaves (or ill mannered) were sold more frequently. The highest quality short encounter was what you will get from a down on his luck slave merchant or hotels serving merchants and pilgrims. The quality of the females working increased with the status of the Hotel, elite level merchants rented villas or palaces and usually had their own slaves with them. Of course slaves (Military and Women) usually held a higher status than the peasant / citizen, who were basically a lower status slave of the state that had to take care of their own living expenses and pay tax if they have anything worthy.
When the British Empire rose, they demonized slavery to shake the old order & ensure that the vast subjects of its empire are tax paying citizens. Nowadays elites retain the top shelf females via modelling contracts and executive 6 figure under desk jobs for attractive females in their prime. But of course this is the very big picture. If you want to do Kate Upton right before you die you have to go the Arnold Palmer way.
Hey guys,
I'm going back to Bangkok in 2 weeks. I heard about the crackdown on foreign girls recently. Anyone know if the Uzbek girls are still at Royal Garden Home and the African freelancers still work around Sukhumvit?
Is there anywhere else I can find white and black girls working?
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2202930]Sadly, I have found very few stunners in my almost 19 years of residence in LOS that provide an experience worth paying top dollar for. Ideally there'd be 9s and 10th that provide a complete PSE including A+, rimming, CIM, MSOG, etc; if one was willing to pay. Sadly so many punters, especially the newer ones and those from this hemisphere just really don't put a premium on performance. It is all about putting the "stunner" notch in the belt. If punters demanded performance, the gals would deliver. Most don't, so they get away with poor service and the scoff when a dude actually expects them to put on a good show.[/QUOTE]The "stunners" or near "stunners" simply don't have to provide a Pornstar performance to get sufficient customers. It is not exactly natural for Thai girls to aspire to be a pornstar style girl either. There is definitely a premium for their looks too. In a bar they can refuse a deal that is not good enough and simply wait for a better one. One of my favourite lookers, never went without a customer for more than 20 minutes, and she was disinterested in plenty of arrogant guys and probably disinterested if the guy was too stingy. So she had the power to decide what she wanted. Was a student and only worked part time. Very pretty and great slim body, plus quite good sensual dancer.
Having a looker is not really a notch in the belt. One could brag, but no one necessarily believes or even agrees she was stunning. For some of us, a very beautiful girl is a big turn on. Makes a difference to our enjoyment markedly even if she could not do a good BJ due to braces. I can't be bothered to pay money to fuck fat or plain girls, no matter what their pornstar skills are. That is just me. My dick could easily droop quickly if the girl is not visually hot.
Naturally I would prefer a stunner with amazing skills as well, however I think we all compromise in different ways. I will compromise on the price and also her skills if she is really good looking and has a good attitude to fun. Looks with no fun does not work for me. I had dud Stunners in the Soapies like that. Some stunners expect the guy to like her automatically due to her beauty. However those girls can be a disappointment. I think of an Emannuelle Soapy girl, who was skinny but her looks were almost a 10 for me including the face, tits very nice. Yet she was completely hopeless in the room. Not just unskilled, but reticent and avoiding, and no fun, certainly no kissing, no fingering (obviously), no DATY, possibly no BJ or so pathetic as to be worthless (can't remember every detail now). I wondered exactly what was going to get me hard. LOL. Possibly does not like Farangs. She claimed young Asian guys had no issues with her.
I even find I prefer to repeat with girls with a very beautiful pussy. That could easily be tie breaker, over a girl with a messy pussy. So beauty in face ass, thighs, pussy and tits combine to be a large turn on for some guys, more so than special abilities. I don't repeat the girl with great abilities if she is not well above average for looks too. So it is clear we all have different selection criteria. I don't mind a somewhat puffy pussy offering some cushion for the banging. LOL I hate the feel of banging against skin covered bone.
You can't expect everyone to follow you and put a premium on performance, and I am sure years of experience here is not that relevant to preferences other than we all get more fussy than before most likely. If the girl has looks and makes it good fun, it is enough for me. The extra skills are a bonus, but really I don't get much truly deep throat, no rimming, rarely get anal nor ask for it (can't recall having an ass offered to me this year), etc. Did not even get anal from a girl who used to give me that 2 or 3 years back (most girls are not really into it big time). Now she gives me what she enjoys. Still a face and pussy man. Just different requirements.
Did I ever meet a really stunning porn-star girl in Thailand? Nope! Or even a 9 out of 10 girl pornstar? Who would that be? Can't think of anyone. Even 20 to 30 years ago I never met any porn-star type girls here. Thai girls were conservative somewhat.
I would say that on average Farang hookers (in Europe) are more skilled (at least those with good looks that I would potentially try) but Thai girls on average have a better fun attitude once the chemistry is working (although this fun attitude seems to have reduced to fewer girls over the years). I like experienced girls or very enthusiastic newbies. Happy to pay extra for extended time with a really heavenly Farang girl in Germany on occasion, but standard of Foreign girls here seems mostly weak (I am probably in the wrong venues). A dimly lit disco with cacophony is not for me.
[QUOTE=LadyMontbarron;2215613]Hey guys,
I'm going back to Bangkok in 2 weeks. I heard about the crackdown on foreign girls recently. Anyone know if the Uzbek girls are still at Royal Garden Home and the African freelancers still work around Sukhumvit?
Is there anywhere else I can find white and black girls working?[/QUOTE]Last time I was there 3 years ago they were at Rajah Hotel. This time I had heard about Royal Garden.
I couldn't find Royal Garden hotel so went to Rajah and asked where the girls went to) the lady wasn't to happy about that. She said 'I not know or care'. So I kinda gave up.
I'm Staying Grace Hotel so was walking up Sukhumvit 3 to Shock 89 and just by chance recognised the agent man from 3 years ago in a window over the road.
And lo and behold it was Royal Garden Home Hotel. That was FATE. I carried on to Shock 89 = nothing there for me so back to RG.
Good selection, great time, lovely girls. Thank you. Nickc.
P.S. Theres a lot to be said for walking around).
I'm visiting Bangkok in October 1st week. Where can I get Russian or Eurasian girls for short time? Grace or Rajah hotel are not having? Please share the information.
[QUOTE=XioCat3;2225571]I'm visiting Bangkok in October 1st week. Where can I get Russian or Eurasian girls for short time? Grace or Rajah hotel are not having? Please share the information.[/QUOTE] If you just read the ONE post before yours it tells you.
Last visited Pattaya 3 years back. Been some changes since. Still Russian Tourists bringing money to Pattaya. NB All the Russian dancers are strictly above board, no take outs )
What was noticeable is there's now 3 or 4 quite substantial Indian clubs right on Walking st. The biggest is Nashaa which has 2 PR areas where some Western girls hang out. Loud Indian Music and Indian men dancing wildly on stages. Just a few working girls. Not my scene. Those Indian Clubs would pack out maybe 2 thousand Indians every night. With these clubs theres a noticeable influx of Indian Tourists. Many, many more packing out Walking st. Some of them come with problems.
Saw one drunk fat Indian grope a Thai Girl and then when she responded he tried to slap her. All this was right on Walking st. Wow. I couldn't believe it. 3 Thai Mamas came from no-where and he took some real kickboxing to the head and body. These women could really fight. He just wouldn't walk away and drunkenly stood there with his fists up so they did him again and again. What a dumb fuck. His Indian mate was trying trying to join in, I stopped that, I just pushed him away.
Theres a cultural conflict there. The Western 'volunteer' police should be addressing this. I repeatedly saw Indians making nasty comments and harassing girls right on Walking st. Its not the Russian's or Expats causing a lot of problems. Maybe they need a Indian 'Volunteer' policeman ))
Indians complain all over Thailand they don't get into a lot of Clubs. Now I can understand why they don't let them in) LOL. MIXX Bangkok rarely lets them in. MIXX Pattaya is sometimes that way to. Was in MIXX Pattaya last week, theres a mix of non-working tourists there. Saw three Indians who just couldn't understand there were just Russian tourist girls on a night out and kept harassing them. The bar staff actually had to push off the Indians to the other side the venue. And then they had a big angry sulk.
In Bangkok taxi drivers get a commission if they takes passengers to 'Shock89'. So they take Western tourists there seeking a dance club. Its an Indian Club. Again the Indians can't tell the difference between working and non-working. Saw one little Indian groping an Aussie girls butt right on the dance stage. Her boyfriend just pushed him head first off the stage. Sorry I laughed.
Excuse my rant, its just cultural. Thailand is not India. They need to understand that
Cheers Nickc.
I do have some PM info regards some non-Thai girls if interested).
[QUOTE=Nickc;2227776]If you just read the ONE post before yours it tells you.
Last visited Pattaya 3 years back. Been some changes since. Still Russian Tourists bringing money to Pattaya. NB All the Russian dancers are strictly above board, no take outs )
What was noticeable is there's now 3 or 4 quite substantial Indian clubs right on Walking st. The biggest is Nashaa which has 2 PR areas where some Western girls hang out. Loud Indian Music and Indian men dancing wildly on stages. Just a few working girls. Not my scene. Those Indian Clubs would pack out maybe 2 thousand Indians every night. With these clubs theres a noticeable influx of Indian Tourists. Many, many more packing out Walking st. Some of them come with problems.
Saw one drunk fat Indian grope a Thai Girl and then when she responded he tried to slap her. All this was right on Walking st. Wow. I couldn't believe it. 3 Thai Mamas came from no-where and he took some real kickboxing to the head and body. These women could really fight. He just wouldn't walk away and drunkenly stood there with his fists up so they did him again and again. What a dumb fuck. His Indian mate was trying trying to join in, I stopped that, I just pushed him away..[/QUOTE]I was in Shock 39 a week or so ago. Indian guys really don't know how to behave in a club. Maybe they can't handle alcohol.
[QUOTE=Nickc;2227776].
In Bangkok taxi drivers get a commission if they takes passengers to 'Shock89'. So they take Western tourists there seeking a dance club. Its an Indian Club. Again the Indians can't tell the difference between working and non-working. Saw one little Indian groping an Aussie girls butt right on the dance stage. Her boyfriend just pushed him head first off the stage. Sorry I laughed.
.[/QUOTE]Did Shock39 change its name to Shock89 or are they different clubs?
Are the African girls still on Sukumvit road now?
I go there over 2 week.
Greeats.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2227860]I was in Shock 39 a week or so ago. Indian guys really don't know how to behave in a club. Maybe they can't handle alcohol.[/QUOTE]Saddened to see such criticism about indians, we bring business and tourism and export lot of service to other nations. Not sure how to cope or respond to such posts. I never saw or been discriminated being Indian film the last 15 years multiple visits to Bangkok Pattaya and Phuket etc.
[QUOTE=Erect;2228284]Saddened to see such criticism about indians, we bring business and tourism and export lot of service to other nations. Not sure how to cope or respond to such posts. I never saw or been discriminated being Indian film the last 15 years multiple visits to Bangkok Pattaya and Phuket etc.[/QUOTE]I mean no criticism of Indians as a people, one of my homes in the USA Is a very Indian area due to high tech industry and I love the food, and the people. They are always polite, law-abiding, hardworking and family-orientated. Those who have chosen to remain in the US are extremely patriotic. My sister's next door neighbors are from Mumbai. Their teenage kids were born in the US, John and Jenny. Nothing beats a barbecue on the 4th of July when Granny, who doesn't speak in English, starts cooking.
But sorry dude, the Indians that I saw in shock 39 and another places don't know how to act in clubs when they start drinking. Maybe it's the fact that I am used to higher class Indian people in the US, I don't know, but if they acted that way in a club in the United States, they get tossed.
Was at Grace around 10:30 - the path to lobby didn't have many great lookers so went inside lobby. Not much crowd even for a Sat night. Had a good chat with an Uzbek girl for 15-20 minutes, who was there without make-up. Said she usually hangs out at Hyatt but today wasn't feeling so, therefore is here. Has been in Thailand only for 11 days, and hasn't picked the tricks of the trade yet, perhaps. Didn't look like other pros with huge tits and make-up. I was too drunk and just had a casual chat with her and wanted to call it a night. But she said she is out of cigarettes (and money) and really wanted to go with me. Didn't want FS with her so talked about BJ for 30 minutes for 1 k which she agreed. Went to my hotel nearby.
Overall good chat. Covered BJ for 10-15 minutes. Couldn't cum. But she tried hard spent 30 minutes and shared numbers.
Damage - 1 k.
Safe Mongering,
LC.
As Yulia thing didn't work well, revisited the place around 12:30 - This time took a petite russian blonde. Has a trademark style of wearing a cap and jacket without putting her hands in. Usual ST - 1500 bucks for the duration. Nothing much to say.
Safe Mongering.
LC.
Visited on a Sat around 10 pm. 400 be Entry with 1 drink. Honestly, I don't know why people visit this club.
1) The place is too pushy. I am one of those who never sit without a drink (e. G. , typically consume 2 beers in first 15 minutes and then at least 1 over next 15-20 minutes). This time the bartender lady would come to me even when I had two beers with me to buy more for her, her friend and then tip her. I politely asked her to fuck-off (had tipped her post getting my 2nd drink) Once I had finished one, she would just come and stand beside me dancing and showing heart. So annoying.
2) The girls (or ladies?) are old and usually MILFs. You can get better stuff at Grace, perhaps? (I visited around 10 pm, maybe the quality is better later, but I failed to find even a single lady I would want to take home).
3) I am an Indian by birth. I don't know why even Indians visit it. Right or wrong, we have the reputation to pay less? This is one of the most expensive places to get your drinks. 400 B + 220 be for your beers (other drinks are more expensive) + Lady Drinks + Bartender will push you for tips. Compare with Grace restaurant - 1 vodka, coke + Corona + Coffee = 500 B. And you can see your russians in full light. Or go to RG if you are into russians?
Couldn't bear the old age and annoying bartender so came out in 15 minutes. Would seriously discourage.
Safe Mongering,
LC.
Went there around 2. Russian girls are at 2nd floor. The fist guy at reception had told be 3 k for 1 shot. But the Thai guy who took me in the lift said 3. 7 k. Considering this was my 4th shot of the night. I just asked him to kill the deal. Could see one girl when we reached floor 2, was a bit chubby early 30's. But I am hopeful they would have better in the rooms. Didn't even take a look as 3. 7 k was too steep for 4th shot. Considering I had two Uzbek girls for 2. 5 k total for the same night. Maybe I will pay 3 k if it's my first.
Safe Mongering,
LC.
[QUOTE=LewisCarrol;2233386]Was at Grace around 10:30 - the path to lobby didn't have many great lookers so went inside lobby. Not much crowd even for a Sat night. Had a good chat with an Uzbek girl for 15-20 minutes, who was there without make-up. Said she usually hangs out at Hyatt but today wasn't feeling so, therefore is here. Has been in Thailand only for 11 days, and hasn't picked the tricks of the trade yet, perhaps. Didn't look like other pros with huge tits and make-up. I was too drunk and just had a casual chat with her and wanted to call it a night. But she said she is out of cigarettes (and money) and really wanted to go with me. Didn't want FS with her so talked about BJ for 30 minutes for 1 k which she agreed. Went to my hotel nearby.
Overall good chat. Covered BJ for 10-15 minutes. Couldn't cum. But she tried hard spent 30 minutes and shared numbers.
Damage - 1 k.
Safe Mongering,
LC.[/QUOTE]Have you been there during the week? Or just on weekends.
[QUOTE=LewisCarrol;2233391]go to RG if you are into russians?[/QUOTE]
Nice report, thank you.
To clarify, where and what is RG? The acronym is not widely known. Is it Royal Garden Home Hotel on Sukhumvit Soi 3?
In addition, I found there are not that many actual Russians (real blonde, blue or green eyes) in "Russian" places in Thailand. They're mostly from Central Asia, maybe some Russian blood in the mix, but not the ethnic type you'd see in Moscow.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2233394]Have you been there during the week? Or just on weekends.[/QUOTE]Only weekend, yet. If I get chance, will report for the weekday too.
Thanks.
LC.
Yes, That's the one!
LC.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2233446]Nice report, thank you.
To clarify, where and what is RG? The acronym is not widely known. Is it Royal Garden Home Hotel on Sukhumvit Soi 3?
In addition, I found there are not that many actual Russians (real blonde, blue or green eyes) in "Russian" places in Thailand. They're mostly from Central Asia, maybe some Russian blood in the mix, but not the ethnic type you'd see in Moscow.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LewisCarrol;2233391]Visited on a Sat around 10 pm. 400 be Entry with 1 drink. Honestly, I don't know why people visit this club.
1) The place is too pushy. I am one of those who never sit without a drink (e. G. , typically consume 2 beers in first 15 minutes and then at least 1 over next 15-20 minutes). This time the bartender lady would come to me even when I had two beers with me to buy more for her, her friend and then tip her. I politely asked her to fuck-off (had tipped her post getting my 2nd drink) Once I had finished one, she would just come and stand beside me dancing and showing heart. So annoying.
2) The girls (or ladies?) are old and usually MILFs. You can get better stuff at Grace, perhaps? (I visited around 10 pm, maybe the quality is better later, but I failed to find even a single lady I would want to take home)..[/QUOTE]I am an Indian too and I too am pissed of with the attitude our people have. Most of them think that since they are paying they own it. I have been to Bangkok at least 12 times in the last few years & have been to shock a few times had a babe called Jasmina from Uzbekistan she was just fantastic around 23 years with a fantastic body we danced, played pool, and she made me do her 3 times at the hotel. I had picked up her two times. Once I had taken a 21 year fresh from Uzbekistan called Maya she was also good in bed. You have to go late and take your time in selection coming to our brethren I had seen them come in a vest and shorts they would be sleeping in with flip flops and very bad body odor. I have never faced any discrimination in Thailand. I have been to Nana plaza, levels, climax, insanity or any gogos but never have been stopped from entering. I always dress well, smell well,& spend well. I had picked up a Thai babe from levels and have a very good fun with her and took her to Phuket for an holiday and spent three wonderful nights and days in karon beach at an resort with her. I am planning to visit Bangkok in mid November. My Indian brothers if you are reading this kindly behave as you would in our country, you are on a holiday but it does not mean we have to behave like louts respect everyone even if it is an WG. They also have feelings.
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After cruising Nana plaza last night, I was walking down Sukhumvit to soi cowboy. There were 2-3 attractive eastern European looking girls in front of Mcdonalds. I was surprised and did a double take. I like Thai girls so that is not my style but it would be many guys idea of a fun time. The bars seem quiet in both areas except crazy house and upstairs in the dollhouse. The dancers were naked and dancing but older and unattractive. But, it was very fun!
[QUOTE=Risks;2233820]I am an Indian too and I too am pissed of with the attitude our people have. Most of them think that since they are paying they own it. I have been to Bangkok at least 12 times in the last few years & have been to shock a few times had a babe called Jasmina from Uzbekistan she was just fantastic around 23 years with a fantastic body we danced, played pool, and she made me do her 3 times at the hotel. I had picked up her two times. Once I had taken a 21 year fresh from Uzbekistan called Maya she was also good in bed. You have to go late and take your time in selection coming to our brethren I had seen them come in a vest and shorts they would be sleeping in with flip flops and very bad body odor. I have never faced any discrimination in Thailand. I have been to Nana plaza, levels, climax, insanity or any gogos but never have been stopped from entering. I always dress well, smell well,& spend well. I had picked up a Thai babe from levels and have a very good fun with her and took her to Phuket for an holiday and spent three wonderful nights and days in karon beach at an resort with her. I am planning to visit Bangkok in mid November. My Indian brothers if you are reading this kindly behave as you would in our country, you are on a holiday but it does not mean we have to behave like louts respect everyone even if it is an WG. They also have feelings.
[/QUOTE]Interesting to read your views and very good advice. Unfortunately not all will understand their behaviour is not at your level. I was slightly perturbed by a group of Indians refusing to sit down but jumping around partying a little too much in my face, and seemingly about to send my drinks flying, at Billboard while I was trying to do well with a girl on my lab at the suds bath. So yes just a bit more decorum would be appreciated. Not to single them out though, arrogant Farang drunks that won't sit down in gogos can be very annoying as crash into things regularly. No control of what they are doing. Broken glass goes flying. Some of them stink also. Seems that most guys that stink under arms, do not know they stink, or think it is very normal and everyone can handle it. For me it brings on the feeling I want to puke, so can't be near stinky types for too long. This is one reason I like Thai girls. Very rare for them to have much odour. Can't say same for girls from my own country.
I would appreciate if bar doorman would not let in the drunks and the stinky types (no matter where they come from) and I think Cigar smoking should be banned as well, even in bars that allow cigarettes. The cigar stink is just too much to bear. Still all the gogo bars are going to shit these days for me, with so much LBs, over dressed fake Coyotes, fatties, young clueless girls, and surgery girls, and some bars with raucous music and bad lighting. Only very occasional visits for me now, and only to see some hot girls dancing nude or close to it if possible (getting harder to find). I fear we won't be able to get ST for 3 K any more, much less 2. 5 K except for the dregs. Girl drink prices are getting high with some places charging 200 Baht or higher for a girl drink, and many girls ask for two drinks at a time these days, or drinks for their friends. 10 years ago, everything was much better, or even only 5 to 7 years ago I used to have a great time in Sheba, Suzie W and Crazy House when first opened. Many girls with perfect stunning asses in those days. Now hard to find.
Are there still Uzbek girls in Shock39 and other clubs in BKK? There has been a crackdown on them since the last 3-4 months, not sure what the current status is.
[QUOTE=BloodRed;2241380]Are there still Uzbek girls in Shock39 and other clubs in BKK? There has been a crackdown on them since the last 3-4 months, not sure what the current status is.[/QUOTE]Last month, yes. I may be going there on Halloween.
Does anyone know where the Russians at the Royal Garden have relocated to? I went there today and entered the lobby but one of the cleaning staff indicated that they had left. There was no one hanging around in the lobby either who gave off a pimp vibe. Watched the entrance for a while and didn't see anyone enter so it seems the cleaning lady was legit.
Any other hints about finding Russians in Bangkok?
[QUOTE=PointyStick;2243797]Does anyone know where the Russians at the Royal Garden have relocated to? I went there today and entered the lobby but one of the cleaning staff indicated that they had left. There was no one hanging around in the lobby either who gave off a pimp vibe. Watched the entrance for a while and didn't see anyone enter so it seems the cleaning lady was legit.
Any other hints about finding Russians in Bangkok?[/QUOTE]Reading the Bangkok Post today, Police raided a Hotel in Soi 3 last Monday and several people were arrested, some taken for questioning, re [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] matters. Included 11 Uzbeki girls. Interviews suggested that the Uzbeki girls were not "trafficked" (without supplying exact definition. I can only guess involves captivity, trickery, passport confiscation, etc.) However the Ethopian girls situation may have been considered more serious with Ethiopian mamasan and a Thai man manager arrested.
There are all sorts of different things girls can be charged with, tourists working with no permit, girls gathering in a place for criminal activities, etc. Blah blah. Of course the main focus is to try to get trafficking people or tax evasion people.
Report did not name the Hotel but Royal Garden seems a good possibility. Not so Royal!
I doubt there are girls from European part of Russia working here as hookers, as they could do far better in Europe, unless they are down right ugly. So mostly Uzbeki could make sense.
The Royal Garden in Pattaya seems to have had a good name in the past, so maybe there is no affiliation.
Can confirm Syzygies intel is correct. Made another recon and inside the lobby I asked an Indian dude who appeared to be a cook about the Russian girls and he indicated that two weeks ago there was a police raid and the pimp was lead away in cuffs. Hopefully he will pay the required fine and be up and running soon.
Subsequent to my post below I was dropping off someone for a visa run at Suk Soi 71 when I spotted 4 attractive CIS girls who were marking the same trip. There was a middle aged Thai man assisting them. They waved goodbye in a friendly manner. Once the bus had left I questioned the man as to where they worked but he didn't know. These were not the usual fatties one sees in front of the grace so hopefully there is somewhere in BKK with walk in option. Looks like there is a visa agent operating out of PB Tower who can easily obtain visa extensions are the embassy in Vientiane. I thought that route had been toughened up.
Yep the police raided Royal Garden. What for? You try find one foreign country where there isn't hundreds of Thai girls operating? But as soon as a foreign girl comes to Thailand the police have a heart attack. They weren't harming anyone and were just supplying a niche market. There are hundreds of Thai massage parlours all over New Zealand and Australia and no-one complains.
[QUOTE=PointyStick;2244640]Can confirm Syzygies intel is correct. Made another recon and inside the lobby I asked an Indian dude who appeared to be a cook about the Russian girls and he indicated that two weeks ago there was a police raid and the pimp was lead away in cuffs. Hopefully he will pay the required fine and be up and running soon.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=Nickc;2246869]Yep the police raided Royal Garden. What for? You try find one foreign country where there isn't hundreds of Thai girls operating? But as soon as a foreign girl comes to Thailand the police have a heart attack. They weren't harming anyone and were just supplying a niche market. There are hundreds of Thai massage parlours all over New Zealand and Australia and no-one complains..[/QUOTE]The foreign hookers are taking income away from the Thai girls and tourists visiting Thailand. Just as likely police are looking for their cut.
They are not concerned about Thai girls working in other countries since hopefully the girls are saving some of the cash and that is also benefiting the Thailand economy.
[QUOTE=Nickc;2246869] There are hundreds of Thai massage parlours all over New Zealand and Australia and no-one complains. [/QUOTE]
Didn't know that. Are the girls young and hot? What is the price for FS? Which city/cities are the mainly located? Which are the most famous massage places?
Don't want to receive a RTFF reply so I just quickly scanned the Aussie forum. I see Melbourne seems to be the most popular. However, reading reports of Asian MILF in their 30s and 40s. Hopefully you have better news.
It's illegal to work as a sex worker in NZ under the terms of your visa. This makes them open to all kinds of abuse by MP owners in the form of blackmail etc of they try to apply for a residence visa. As a matter of fact domestic sex workers complain because foreigners take work from them.
Most of this activity is unregulated in both countries because Governments have whittled down the enforcement arm of immigration depts.
[QUOTE=Nickc;2246869]Yep the police raided Royal Garden. What for? You try find one foreign country where there isn't hundreds of Thai girls operating? But as soon as a foreign girl comes to Thailand the police have a heart attack. They weren't harming anyone and were just supplying a niche market. There are hundreds of Thai massage parlours all over New Zealand and Australia and no-one complains.[/QUOTE]
Thone handful of foreign girls at Royal Garden would be the only foreign girls in Thailand working like that. They weren't taking work from Thai girls. In Oz there would be many hundreds of Thai girls. In Phuket and Pattaya there are many Russian tourists so they must expect some Russian girls. The girls at Royal Garden didn't live there they were all free contracts. After work they were off to Resturants and clubs, mostly Mixx. I got to know some of them quite well. They all use to send money home via Western Union. The Thai press and police try to make out they were slaves which just wasn't true.
[QUOTE=Nickc;2246869]Yep the police raided Royal Garden. What for? You try find one foreign country where there isn't hundreds of Thai girls operating? But as soon as a foreign girl comes to Thailand the police have a heart attack. They weren't harming anyone and were just supplying a niche market. There are hundreds of Thai massage parlours all over New Zealand and Australia and no-one complains.
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[QUOTE=Nickc;2250099]Thone handful of foreign girls at Royal Garden would be the only foreign girls in Thailand working like that. They weren't taking work from Thai girls. In Oz there would be many hundreds of Thai girls. In Phuket and Pattaya there are many Russian tourists so they must expect some Russian girls. The girls at Royal Garden didn't live there they were all free contracts. After work they were off to Resturants and clubs, mostly Mixx. I got to know some of them quite well. They all use to send money home via Western Union. The Thai press and police try to make out they were slaves which just wasn't true.[/QUOTE]To be fair, the Bangkok Post reported that the Uzbeki girls were interviewed by Police and found NOT to be trafficked. The same could not necessarily be determined re the Ethiopian girls.
[QUOTE=Nickc;2246869]Yep the police raided Royal Garden. What for? You try find one foreign country where there isn't hundreds of Thai girls operating? There are hundreds of Thai massage parlours all over New Zealand and Australia and no-one complains.
.[/QUOTE]Actually that is not quite true, Thai girls working illegally in Australia, especially trafficked girls, get nabbed by Authorities fairly quickly usually, locked up in detention and sent home.
The point is, there many Thai, Korean, Philippine, etc. Girls working in Brothels in Australia and NZ, but if they have a permit to work, then there is no problem. The is no legal basis to discriminate on race or nationality with type of work done, if the work is legal, and the owners and workers pay taxes etc.
It turns out the local sex customers prefer the Asian girls, so they are not going to notify the authorities in most cases unless the girl is imprisoned by Vietnamese pimps (typical case) and subjected to bad conditions. Often it is other workers losing business to the competition (cheaper or more attractive) that are going to inform the authorities about illegal Thai workers, especially Thais themselves, whether they are in a brothel or a restaurant or whatever.
So I am in agreement with Point Stick's post.
I am not condoning the police raids in Thailand. I happen to like some girls that are not strictly Thai and even have sympathy for girls needing to make money to support their children, parents etc. Even if the Thais think they should be prevented from working due to age or nationality. Girls with very low education find it hard to make enough money other than by providing special services in some level of demand.
I'm currently in Phuket. Its awash with Russian tourists. Good for the Thai people. There big money spenders here. Russian men sometimes like to have extra Russian girls around. It would be in Thailands interest to allow just a few friendly girls. Its supporting your own tourists. I got no problem with that.
Google "moscow Thai massage" to find many, many Thai massage parlours in Moscow that Russians have no problem with. But NOW theres not one Russian massage shop in all of Thailand. In Phuket there was one Russian 'massage' parlour and the tuk tuk drivers were paid by the Thai bars to stage a blockade protest in protest against them. So the police kicked the girls out. Whenever a tuk tuk driver hassles you for "tuk tuk", ask him for a ride to Russian girls. They respond sourly. In effect what those tuk tuk drivers did was cut their own business. The tuk tuk mafia is just as thoughtless. But the police just do as the tuk tuks tell them.
P.S. Are there any Russian dance girls in Bangkok or is that only Pattaya and Phuket?
Cheers Nickc.
I thought I would get this topic started in the proper thread. These girls frequent Spasso and Mix club in the evening but they are asking 5-6 K baht. You can find them on We Chat and Zalo during the day for 3 k ST. Don't believe these members who talk about this is Thailand and why would you want a Viet girl. Thailand offers Thai girls, Viet girls, Cambodian girls, Laos girls, Russians, Africans, and Uzbek girls. That's what I love about this place. Variety without the need to travel all over South East Asia.
[QUOTE=MongerForSex;2251957]Is it possible to find some beautiful Vietnamese hookers in Bangkok, I plan on going to Thailand in January for 6 weeks. I can pay 10 000 bahts for beautiful Vietnamese or Chinese women long term. I ll visit Thailand for vacational purpose, because it's a beautiful country and there are many things to do outside of mongering scenes. So if I don't fuck any girl I won't be sad when I leave Thailand.
I read Thai hookers are not good looking. Most Chinese hookers were ugly in China and Hong Kong unlike Chinese normal women, I ent up fucking a Russian hooker in China and a Colombian hooker in Hong Kong. I am still virgin for Asian women except for Japanese Brazilians.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2176107]Today I fucked my second Vietnamese girl in Thailand. I love their bodies. Firm natural breasts, spinner bodies, white skin, and great asses. Mina was no exception. These girls normally frequent Spassos for 5-6 K but if you are smart, you can find them peddling their wears on We chat or Zalo during the day for 2,500-3,000 Baht. Today I set a goal to find one of these beauties. Taking a taxi down Sukhumvit, I fired up We chat and searched the people nearby. Today I spotted 4 Vietnamese girls and Mina was the best looking, most repsomsoive, and quickest to reply. We struck a quick deal for 3,000 Baht and 2 shots. Now for some intel for you guys. There is a building on Soi 4 called Nana Condo. It's pretty run down but the rooms are decent. This place is where most of the Vietnamese ladies stay. They come and go for 30 days at time to freelance.
We planned to meet at the front door of the building. She came out in a sexy pair of jean shorts with a pink see through negligee on and I almost came right in my pants. Once in the room, she immediately took her top off to reveal a wonderful pair of natural C cup breasts. We chit chatted a bit while undressing. During this chit chat, she mentioned her friend was smoking in the other room. Well this turned out to be 2 friends LOL. She then asked me if I wanted to fuck the 2 of them for 5,000 total. I thought about it seriously for a moment but decided to pass. Anyways onto the main event. She started with a BBBJ and then after a few minutes asked if I wanted to fuck her. I agreed and we started with her riding me Cow girl. This girl really knows how to put on a show. A lot of dirty talk which is obviously fake but a pleasant change from most of the reserved Thai girls. She reminded me of View from Tulip with the way she was talking. " cum inside my pussy" "fuck me harder" "I'm cumming" and so on. Next, we changed positions to mish and I stroked her clit while enjoying to look at her lovely body. Then a finish in doggy as I watched her nice ass rotate on my cock. It was a site to see. I sure love Vietnamese ladies. I have fucked them 2 times in Thailand and a few times in Laos. I don't want to travel to Vietnam as I would never come back. I would get lost in all that VN pussy and no one would ever see me again. Attached are the photos she sent me while booking and her profile photo. Round 2 was similar.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2252595]I thought I would get this topic started in the proper thread. These girls frequent Spasso and Mix club in the evening but they are asking 5-6 K baht. You can find them on We Chat and Zalo during the day for 3 k ST. Don't believe these members who talk about this is Thailand and why would you want a Viet girl. Thailand offers Thai girls, Viet girls, Cambodian girls, Laos girls, Russians, Africans, and Uzbek girls. That's what I love about this place. Variety without the need to travel all over South East Asia.[/QUOTE]In January earlier this year I had picked up a young early twenties Vietnam girl from level disco Soi 11.
5 k baht LT. Hot girl excellent time. For example still asleep in the morning and she woke me up with a BBBJ.
Next day or so I run into her again same club but this time she has a knockout friend with her.
I take both of them 10 k total LT. The 3 some wasn't that good because for some reason.
They did not want to perform with me at the same time. The next day I saw the friend strolling Soi 11. I said you not getting any customers? She seemed confused telling me that people would ask her if she was a ladyboy!
I guess she was tall and hot probably too good to be true.
To Ko Samet with a Malagasy girl I picked up in front of Central Festival Pattaya and whose body was definitely an 8 for small-tit lovers. Pert pear-shaped butt, good in bed, willing to do anal (not my thing). Tallish by Thai standards. Wanted 4000 but settled on 3500/ day. Bare-backing rights within the package. Later told me an American guy had bid 5000/ day to go to Pukhet. I'd won because the Pukhet trip was for 4 days while mine was for 8 and she knew no English and didn't want to have to talk through google. French niche may have played in my favour. Having a common language a major plus for me too compared to a Thai girl with only Mickey Mouse English. Importance of keeping a lid on shopping, as well as on laundry bills as such girls may want to change into different garments twice a day and wear each only once. When on the beach my laundry expenses are reduced as I am always in and out of the water and sweating and stinking is not such an issue as when in town. Also had to put my foot down when she wanted to stay late in bed and skip breakfast. I was feeding her and breakfast was paid for. Was also paying for her company, so no reason I should face breakfast as a dejected lonely bachelor.
This girl was a substitute for my long-standing regular African who self-destroyed in a sad way (threw herself in jail as an illegal immigrant after clinically losing her mind). This regular African was not quite as sexy except for the ass, but was much cheaper at 2000/ day. Visited her in jail. Depressing. Full story another time if I ever feel like telling it.
Pic of the 3500/ day spinner.
I've been in BKK a couple of days, searching the location function of zalo + wechat. No viets on WeChat. A handful on Zalo, some maybe worth a try.
However, none of my friend requests have been accepted, or messages answered, so I can't set up a meeting.
How have others managed?
[QUOTE=XXL;2256104]To Ko Samet with a Malagasy girl I picked up in front of Central Festival Pattaya and whose body was definitely an 8 for small-tit lovers. [/QUOTE]Nice report to show the possibilities of taking girl on a holiday. Strange that Laundry expenses became a topic. I am sure you could find a cheap laundry in Koh Samet in the main area, but I suppose might not be close to where you stay, depending. I can imagine African girls get stinky far quicker than Thai girls, so frequent change of clothes might be as necessary as is a frequent shower. I know this from spending some time with a Martinique girl in Bangkok. She was very aware of body stink so fortunately showered very often.
I see Malagasy is a Language, which you did not use I guess. I recall I have heard of it. I did not know it also refers to an ethnic group from Madagascar. The only person I ever talked to from that region was a black girl claiming to be from Zanzibar. Also a few Kenya and Ghana girls, my favourite regions for Africa girls so far. Ethiopian supposed to be very common in Bangkok. I would not know if ever chatted to one. Perhaps they are generally less beautiful.
My early days in Thailand, being with girls with very low English (or almost zero English) was fun for me. My extreme basic Thai (at that time) could have been better than their English. Caused me to accelerate my Thai learning a lot by immersion. Never was worried about having a deep and meaningful conversation. That wasn't my need. Now I understand much more, and my GF can give me a Buddhist religion lecture, I soon get bored with it. I also did not see that girls were too concerned about being able to have advanced conversation with me. Maybe the modern day is different. Perhaps they were happy I had enough for beginners Thai 101, like eat food, go to toilet, take a shower, go to the beech, swim, etc. Wash clothes probably would have been too advanced when I first holidayed with Thai girls.
[QUOTE=Zuperfly;2257216]I've been in BKK a couple of days, searching the location function of zalo + wechat. No viets on WeChat. A handful on Zalo, some maybe worth a try.
However, none of my friend requests have been accepted, or messages answered, so I can't set up a meeting.
How have others managed?[/QUOTE]Did you even read this thread before posting this question? I have recently posted about this topic and so have others all over this board. RTFF man! We post for a reason and the search function is a blessing and it is not in disguise. For fuck sake, I just checked and my last post about this is only 3 or 4 posts before yours. OMG man!
[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2257700]Did you even read this thread before posting this question? I have recently posted about this topic and so have others all over this board. RTFF man! We post for a reason and the search function is a blessing and it is not in disguise. For fuck sake, I just checked and my last post about this is only 3 or 4 posts before yours. OMG man![/QUOTE]Yeah. I read your post. Appreciate the info. I followed the instructions. I am a veteran of the scene here, perhaps you might calm down and consider that perhaps you are not the only person who has experience.
After several days of messing around with Zalo, I got one of the girls to meet me with her friend. Neither impressed. They were asking 2500. A more glamorous looking one asked 4000. Photos appear to be heavily edited and overly flattering. If I could find a decent Viet girl I'd put her to work all the time.
There are scums out there pretending to be police or to be connected to the police. One African girl handed out 10 k to an arab-looking customer after he posed as a "friend of the police" and said she had no right to work or something to the effect. The girl's visa was still valid. I advised the girl next time to take a pic of the man and tell she too was a friend of the police and please let's go together talk to the police. If she must hand over money then to Thai police not to strangers posing as johns. I also advised stick to white men and maybe Japs and Chinese. Dunno whether my advice was sound but I couldn't think of anything better to say. Sad this is going on.
[QUOTE=XXL;2260173]There are scums out there pretending to be police or to be connected to the police. One African girl handed out 10 k to an arab-looking customer after he posed as a "friend of the police" and said she had no right to work or something to the effect. The girl's visa was still valid. I advised the girl next time to take a pic of the man and tell she too was a friend of the police and please let's go together talk to the police. If she must hand over money then to Thai police not to strangers posing as johns. I also advised stick to white men and maybe Japs and Chinese. Dunno whether my advice was sound but I couldn't think of anything better to say. Sad this is going on.[/QUOTE]I knew of a foreign FL girl a few years ago that was extorted for 10 k. 2 guys posing as undercover policemen flashing badges took her in their car and drove and then parked in front of the police station. They stated once they took her inside they no longer had any control over what happened to her. They started at 50 k for her release. Of course she didn't have that. They sat in the car for 3 hours as she made frantic texts and phone calls to friends for money. As I remember they even drove her to her apartment to what ever money she had. In the end she borrowed enough to pay 10 k. As they sat there in front of the police station she wasn't ready to call their bluff because she felt she had a lot to lose. Plain scaring the crap out her her was enough to extort her.
[QUOTE=Zuperfly;2258574]. I can see why you're always getting into it with other members, dog. Yeah. I read your post. Appreciate the info. I followed the instructions. I am a veteran of the scene here, perhaps you might calm down and consider that perhaps you are not the only person who has experience.
After several days of messing around with Zalo, I got one of the girls to meet me with her friend. Neither impressed. They were asking 2500. A more glamorous looking one asked 4000. Photos appear to be heavily edited and overly flattering. If I could find a decent Viet girl I'd put her to work all the time.[/QUOTE]With all due respect, many other members have posted about this topic besides me and how the heck can a regular member with 8 posts to his name claim to be a veteran and know about me? Anyways, please just take the time to use the search function as myself and many other members post for a reason and that's to help others out. Sorry if you took my post the wrong way. I'm just a very straight forward guy. Ill tell you what. If you PM me, I will give you two contacts out of the 3 different girls showing here.. I actually have about 8 Viets I see in BKK often enough through Zalo, We Chat, Spasso, and some work at Thermae too but I can’t let you in on all 8. Anyways, please use the search function and you will find posts from other members if you are not interested in these ladies.
[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2260232]With all due respect, many other members have posted about this topic besides me and how the heck can a regular member with 8 posts to his name claim to be a veteran and know about me? Anyways, please just take the time to use the search function as myself and many other members post for a reason and that's to help others out. Sorry if you took my post the wrong way. I'm just a very straight forward guy. Ill tell you what. If you PM me, I will give you two contacts out of the 3 different girls showing here.. I actually have about 8 Viets I see in BKK often enough through Zalo, We Chat, Spasso, and some work at Thermae too but I cant let you in on all 8. Anyways, please use the search function and you will find posts from other members if you are not interested in these ladies.[/QUOTE]That's a gracious offer. Unfortunately I don't think I can upgrade to PM you with the CC glitch.
A few of those I saw on Zalo. The one on the upper left, lower right, and on the couch were all interesting, but couldn't get communications going.
Guess I'll just have to try again.
I've lived here and mongered here for more than a decade. I just don't post much.
[QUOTE=Zuperfly;2260475]That's a gracious offer. Unfortunately I don't think I can upgrade to PM you with the CC glitch.[/QUOTE]There is a cash option.
The hell with Vietnamese, I just want a Russian! I guess I'll go to Pattaya.
Those are some beautiful looking viets, Dog. And to pull them through using social media is prettyi impressive. I tried TF and have no luck so far.
I'm heading to Patong from the 21st to 26th December and was wondering if you got any contacts there? Would appreciate if you could share.
[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2260232]With all due respect, many other members have posted about this topic besides me and how the heck can a regular member with 8 posts to his name claim to be a veteran and know about me? Anyways, please just take the time to use the search function as myself and many other members post for a reason and that's to help others out. Sorry if you took my post the wrong way. I'm just a very straight forward guy. Ill tell you what. If you PM me, I will give you two contacts out of the 3 different girls showing here.. I actually have about 8 Viets I see in BKK often enough through Zalo, We Chat, Spasso, and some work at Thermae too but I cant let you in on all 8. Anyways, please use the search function and you will find posts from other members if you are not interested in these ladies.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2260232]With all due respect, many other members have posted about this topic besides me and how the heck can a regular member with 8 posts to his name claim to be a veteran and know about me? Anyways, please just take the time to use the search function as myself and many other members post for a reason and that's to help others out. Sorry if you took my post the wrong way. I'm just a very straight forward guy. Ill tell you what. If you PM me, I will give you two contacts out of the 3 different girls showing here.. I actually have about 8 Viets I see in BKK often enough through Zalo, We Chat, Spasso, and some work at Thermae too but I cant let you in on all 8. Anyways, please use the search function and you will find posts from other members if you are not interested in these ladies.[/QUOTE]Bkkdog,
How did you communicate with the Viet girls on ZAlo? Did you just send them an offer? I sent a request to a few of them but no response.
High ass. She is the 3500/ day girl I featured in a previous post. Extorts me 2000 for ST. Good oral, likes anal (not for me though), gets her rocks off on DATY. She said some men give her 3000 for ST and 6000 for LT. Good for her.
[QUOTE=Gapoox;2263302]Bkkdog,
How did you communicate with the Viet girls on ZAlo? Did you just send them an offer? I sent a request to a few of them but no response.[/QUOTE]I just introduced myself and asked what are you doing in Bangkok. If they told me they were on holiday, I would end the conversation but if they said they were working, they actually initiated the meet up. It has a lot to do with your photo and appearance. If you don't put a photo or they don't like you, they won't reply. Sometimes they are just busy. I don't know what else to tell you.
[QUOTE=JSaint;2261126]Those are some beautiful looking viets, Dog. And to pull them through using social media is prettyi impressive. I tried TF and have no luck so far.
I'm heading to Patong from the 21st to 26th December and was wondering if you got any contacts there? Would appreciate if you could share.[/QUOTE]Sorry but I don't provide contacts if we have never met.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2241397]Last month, yes. I may be going there on Halloween.[/QUOTE]So did you went there? How was it did the raid stopped for Uzbek girls? Or still going on? Any club other then mixx for Uzbek or Russian girl in Bangkok.
[QUOTE=Fasbiranwar1;2272647]So did you went there? How was it did the raid stopped for Uzbek girls? Or still going on? Any club other then mixx for Uzbek or Russian girl in Bangkok.[/QUOTE]Believe it or not, I was in mixx last night and saw the most beautiful Uzbek girl I have ever seen, in fact, she was an overall 10 in anybody's book. I bought her a drink, and we exchanged numbers, but I really wasn't feeling well so I just bagged at about 3 am. Then at 8 am, had a heart attack and I'm in the hospital right now. If I would have taken her home I'd probably be dead.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2272700]Believe it or not, I was in mixx last night and saw the most beautiful Uzbek girl I have ever seen, in fact, she was an overall 10 in anybody's book. I bought her a drink, and we exchanged numbers, but I really wasn't feeling well so I just bagged at about 3 am. Then at 8 am, had a heart attack and I'm in the hospital right now. If I would have taken her home I'd probably be dead.[/QUOTE]Met / saw an Uzbek girl at Mixx about 10 years ago, so it; s highly unlikely it's the same one, but one of the hottest women I have ever seen,.
My ever present cheapskate prevented me from paying her, her desired. (I think it was 6 K for short time quote).
I just found the price ridiculous.
But maybe once, just once, I should have allowed myself to be foolish.
Only to regret it later, after what probably would have been a lousy lay.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2272700] at 8 am, had a heart attack and I'm in the hospital right now. If I would have taken her home I'd probably be dead.[/QUOTE]Whoa. Now there's some dedication to reporting. Hope you are feeling better.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2273477]Whoa. Now there's some dedication to reporting. Hope you are feeling better.[/QUOTE]Great thanks, Got me roto tootered and a stent and raring to go. But no Boom boom for two weeks until the pfemoral puncture heals.
Just had a talk with an African girl about her deal with another girl who "brought" her to Thailand, ie was acting as "her boss".
Debt to repay to that boss = $7000.
Holy shit.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2272700]Believe it or not, I was in mixx last night and saw the most beautiful Uzbek girl I have ever seen, in fact, she was an overall 10 in anybody's book. I bought her a drink, and we exchanged numbers, but I really wasn't feeling well so I just bagged at about 3 am. Then at 8 am, had a heart attack and I'm in the hospital right now. If I would have taken her home I'd probably be dead.[/QUOTE]Whoa sorry to hear the news. There is no need for you to write reports for a while. The only writing you should be doing now is writing down your nurses' line IDs and phone numbers.
Get well soon Brother Nyezhov.
[QUOTE=Allover;2273648]Whoa sorry to hear the news. There is no need for you to write reports for a while. The only writing you should be doing now is writing down your nurses' line IDs and phone numbers.
Get well soon Brother Nyezhov.[/QUOTE]One of the nurses fell in love with me. She's not really my style, although thin and cute enough, but if I was 10 years older she would be perfect.
Does anyone have any update on the Russian / Uzbek girls working in Bangkok? Have the pimps at Royal Garden Home run business again? Any chance we can still find them at Grace Hotel at night?
[QUOTE=LadyMontbarron;2275341]Does anyone have any update on the Russian / Uzbek girls working in Bangkok? Have the pimps at Royal Garden Home run business again? Any chance we can still find them at Grace Hotel at night?[/QUOTE]There are plenty at mixx and shock39. Wasin bk and pattaya last week. Fucked three russian and a Uzbek. They were all good. Paid 7000 thb for over night. Couple of them were good enough to repeat and I did so. Benefit of repeat is obvious. They came around 10 pm and you save on drinks and taxi fare which is 500-700 bhat. Already added them to my contacts of FLs so I can pull it up next time I am there. Which will be soon.
[QUOTE=Robinsmart;2282032]There are plenty at mixx and shock39. Wasin bk and pattaya last week. Fucked three russian and a Uzbek. They were all good. Paid 7000 thb for over night. Couple of them were good enough to repeat and I did so. Benefit of repeat is obvious. They came around 10 pm and you save on drinks and taxi fare which is 500-700 bhat. Already added them to my contacts of FLs so I can pull it up next time I am there. Which will be soon.[/QUOTE]No in house options like the Royal Garden which is a pity. 7000 baht for LT is a good deal for a cauc. In Sydney you'd pay that for an hour. Were they BBBJ or CBJ for that price?
[QUOTE=PointyStick;2282214] 7000 baht for LT is a good deal for a cauc. [/QUOTE]14 fucks in Chinatown LOL.
[QUOTE=Slaol;2282263]14 fucks in Chinatown LOL.[/QUOTE]Haha I shudder to think what a 500 baht ST looks like. More power to you if that's your thing mate! Just keep it wrapped.
[QUOTE=PointyStick;2282214]No in house options like the Royal Garden which is a pity. 7000 baht for LT is a good deal for a cauc. In Sydney you'd pay that for an hour. Were they BBBJ or CBJ for that price?[/QUOTE]I wasn't looking for in call as can't say. Only one of them didn't do BBBJ others were ok. In fact one was ok with anal as well but is not my thing so didn't obliged.
[QUOTE=Slaol;2282263]14 fucks in Chinatown LOL.[/QUOTE]Where are the places in Chinatown that are that cheap?
[QUOTE=AmPervert;2284658]Where are the places in Chinatown that are that cheap?[/QUOTE]Street walkers, And you need not be brave, you will not suffer contagion and perish as some wishful members will allege. Do a search in the Bangkok forum, all the info is there. Check out a city map and take a walk you will see them, bargain like I do, 500 be sometimes even includes the room and I have had cheaper. It beats having a chick digging her claws into you and not having any conversational issues. The sex act is all that is applicable. Simple as that really.
I like to go early morning when they are as fresh as a daisy and its also a lovely way to start your day, kinda gives you the motivation to get your walking or running shoes on and then the thrill of reward. I have been sweaty as hell, the girl will not mind, they just smile. A number of girls do not speak any English but definitely speak Baht.
Let us know how you got on.
[QUOTE=AmPervert;2284658]Where are the places in Chinatown that are that cheap?[/QUOTE]Do it for the sake of the forum! Could you get a pic as well. If you do you'll be a braver man than I that for sure. I don't see the logic of working all year and paying thousands for flights and hotels to delve into these beauties myself however this is up to the individual punter. This is the beauty of Bangkok, there something for everybody.
My beautiful Uzbek girl in Mixx is asking 10 K, so I grabbed a smoking hot blonde one for 5 K instead, wonderful time.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2284869]My beautiful Uzbek girl in Mixx is asking 10 K, so I grabbed a smoking hot blonde one for 5 K instead, wonderful time.[/QUOTE]10 K is little bit too much, 5 K seems more reasonable. Thanks for the info bro, how about the girls in shock 39?
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2284869]My beautiful Uzbek girl in Mixx is asking 10 K, so I grabbed a smoking hot blonde one for 5 K instead, wonderful time.[/QUOTE]10 k is little bit too much, 5 k seems more reasonable. Thanks for the info, how about the girls in shock 39?
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2284869]My beautiful Uzbek girl in Mixx is asking 10 K, so I grabbed a smoking hot blonde one for 5 K instead, wonderful time.[/QUOTE]5 K for how long, a few hours? Do we need to buy them a few drinks first or we can ask them back to the hotel for business? I'll go there this Friday. It's a shame that I'm not much of a drinker so I don't really enjoy bars and clubs.
[QUOTE=Cys1985;2285218]10 k is little bit too much, 5 k seems more reasonable. Thanks for the info, how about the girls in shock 39?[/QUOTE]I haven't been to shock in a month or so.
Was in Shock 39 last week. Hooked up with an amazing Uzbek lady at shock 39. She only goes with Indian clients no Arabs. Very good company and not cheating lady. Her rates are around 7000. Name is Sabina. Used to work in bossy before. Has anyone else tried her?
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2284869]My beautiful Uzbek girl in Mixx is asking 10 K, so I grabbed a smoking hot blonde one for 5 K instead, wonderful time.[/QUOTE]The foreign girls are always starting with 10 K, some of them stick to it others agree to 8 K to 5 k depending on what time of the night it is. In December 2018 I had 3 viets asking for 5 k for each just as they walked in the door around midnight. The best in my opinion was shortly scooped away but the other 2 friends did not have any takers till about 2 AM. One of them offered two together at 7 K. The girl offering this was cute and had a lovely face but as I danced with her for a bit I realized she was probably flat chested as I could not make out any curves underneath her top.
Met a girl from Columbia also who was asking same price 10 K.
Spasso is the same in terms of pricing, the girls who luck out there move to Mixx at the closing time of Spassos.
Osaka.
[QUOTE=AmPervert;2284658]Where are the places in Chinatown that are that cheap?[/QUOTE]So did you try those 500 baht girls? Eager to know what a purple gets you these days.
[QUOTE=PointyStick;2288253]So did you try those 500 baht girls? Eager to know what a purple gets you these days.[/QUOTE]I don't get there until April. I will file a report then.
[QUOTE=Member#4591;2260232]With all due respect, many other members have posted about this topic besides me and how the heck can a regular member with 8 posts to his name claim to be a veteran and know about me? Anyways, please just take the time to use the search function as myself and many other members post for a reason and that's to help others out. Sorry if you took my post the wrong way. I'm just a very straight forward guy. Ill tell you what. If you PM me, I will give you two contacts out of the 3 different girls showing here.. I actually have about 8 Viets I see in BKK often enough through Zalo, We Chat, Spasso, and some work at Thermae too but I cant let you in on all 8. Anyways, please use the search function and you will find posts from other members if you are not interested in these ladies.[/QUOTE]Please send me contact of the girls you met. I tried to PM you but it says you can not except.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2260962]The hell with Vietnamese, I just want a Russian! I guess I'll go to Pattaya.[/QUOTE]The hottest Russian girls in Thailand are in koh phangan. 9-10 bodies fitness yoga party freaks. Its a tough nut to crack but if your up to the challenge and a decent looking guy they are here and they are smoking hot. I would start at a few of the gyms. There a few in Podium gym but more in the Chanrot gym on near Tesco. Next stop would be nicer beach lounge places. Infinity resort worth a look. Last stop would be a more Russian party like Hollystone. Tip from my friend who solely hunts Russians is confident aggressive introductions and even if they are in a group with Russian guys just go up to the guys first being friendly in simple English and asking them how they know so many beautiful girls. He claims that the often straight away say if any of the girls are single and introduce you to them.
[QUOTE=AndoLoco;2290790]The hottest Russian girls in Thailand are in koh phangan. 9-10 bodies fitness yoga party freaks. Its a tough nut to crack but if your up to the challenge and a decent looking guy they are here and they are smoking hot. I would start at a few of the gyms. There a few in Podium gym but more in the Chanrot gym on near Tesco. Next stop would be nicer beach lounge places. Infinity resort worth a look. Last stop would be a more Russian party like Hollystone. Tip from my friend who solely hunts Russians is confident aggressive introductions and even if they are in a group with Russian guys just go up to the guys first being friendly in simple English and asking them how they know so many beautiful girls. He claims that the often straight away say if any of the girls are single and introduce you to them.[/QUOTE]Dude,
I'm old and fat. My idea of picking up a girl here in Thailand is asking her how much for short time.
[QUOTE=Robinsmart;2282032]There are plenty at mixx and shock39. Wasin bk and pattaya last week. Fucked three russian and a Uzbek. They were all good. Paid 7000 thb for over night. Couple of them were good enough to repeat and I did so. Benefit of repeat is obvious. They came around 10 pm and you save on drinks and taxi fare which is 500-700 bhat. Already added them to my contacts of FLs so I can pull it up next time I am there. Which will be soon.[/QUOTE]Can you please share contact details please. I will be in BKK next week.
These are mostly just promoting their rip off Russian Gogos but some very good footage here. I guess they might be available for sex for a very high price.
[URL]https://youtu.be/MKmzDr0Edfo[/URL]
Some different nationalities on Beach Road. I haven't been there in years but enjoy these videos.
[URL]https://youtu.be/xiixpxGivH8[/URL]
[QUOTE=Slaol;2284751]Street walkers, And you need not be brave, you will not suffer contagion and perish as some wishful members will allege. Do a search in the Bangkok forum, all the info is there. Check out a city map and take a walk you will see them, bargain like I do, 500 be sometimes even includes the room and I have had cheaper. It beats having a chick digging her claws into you and not having any conversational issues. The sex act is all that is applicable. Simple as that really.
I like to go early morning when they are as fresh as a daisy and its also a lovely way to start your day, kinda gives you the motivation to get your walking or running shoes on and then the thrill of reward. I have been sweaty as hell, the girl will not mind, they just smile. A number of girls do not speak any English but definitely speak Baht.
Let us know how you got on.[/QUOTE]Off to search Chinatown today.
[QUOTE=AmPervert;2307411]Off to search Chinatown today.[/QUOTE]I entirely failed at my mission. I didn't see anyone I would have thought was a Chinese streetwalker. I walked all over Chinatown and a lot of the alleys as well.
I did buy some cool stuff down there for super cheap but not anything sexual. Can someone help please? I don't want to fail the forum.
[QUOTE=AmPervert;2307466]I entirely failed at my mission. I didn't see anyone I would have thought was a Chinese streetwalker. I walked all over Chinatown and a lot of the alleys as well.
I did buy some cool stuff down there for super cheap but not anything sexual. Can someone help please? I don't want to fail the forum.[/QUOTE]Props for trying something new and reporting on it, even if it wasn't a success.
There haven't been any visible Chinese sex workers in Yaowarat for several years now. They used to mostly hang out at Broadway Hotel, a doorway right next to the seafood place at the busiest corner in the area. There have also been a few on the top floor in the building with Tesco on Soi Mangkhon (an area with tea houses, massage shops and shops for elderly Chinese), but I haven't been there in years, and it's not easy to pick one if you're not in their target demographic. That's probably gone now as well.
However, Yaowarat area still has a fair number of Thai streetwalkers. They mostly hang out around the traffic circle, Wong Wian 22 (22 July Circle on Google Maps), especially along Mittraphan Road and Maitri Chit Road and the alleys between them. Fewer in numbers than in the past, but a few are there at any time of day, more at night. Going rate is 500, plus / minus 200 depending on the looks and negotiating skills.
Slightly farther afield, check you the New Yotse motel next to Hua Chiew hospital. 600 baht including the room, usually about 20 women waiting for customers. There used to be another similar motel near what Saket, but it closed down.
On the subject of [I]foreign[/I] sex workers, I've seen one Indian in her 20s there (an obvious drug addict, didn't take her), and there's also a decent slim Thai-Vietnamese in her 40s, but it's not a given you'll see one of them on any given night.
This is a low-end scene, some women are old and downright scary, but a few look perfectly fine. Service is very basic, don't expect much. To be honest, I occasionally trawl this area more for the curiosity value (about sex workers who are still around) than actually for sex.
Please report back, there's precious little info here on those places.
[QUOTE=AmPervert;2307411]Off to search Chinatown today.[/QUOTE]Look for Maitri Chit Road, walk from the circle towards the lamphraum station. Marked in red.
Crocodilexp I do like seeing streetwalkers as well.
[QUOTE=Slaol;2308379]Look for Maitri Chit Road, walk from the circle towards the lamphraum station. Marked in red.[/QUOTE]Great map. I come back on a rain next week and will be near that area to try again. Thanks.
Any one recently visited BKK? If then can you update me about the quality and age of Uzbek And Russian girls? I am going there tomorrow, anywhere I can find a great spot for Uzbek it Russian Girl pick up.
Off-late, Someone asked about Khunrose Russian escorts.
I'm well experienced with Russian / Uzbek escorts in BKK, all the enquiry for Russian escorts are finally routed to 2 mamasans in BKK and they outsource it. For sure you will not get what you see, Mostly they would send Uzbek in the name of Russian and charge upto 8000 bt-10000-bt for 1 HR and 20 Kbt-25 kbt for full night.
The same asset can be picked up in Mixx / Insanity / Shock even Grace for 6 K for full night.
I know the one of the main mamasan from the last 10 yrs, if anyone interested would share the digits.
Have the contacts of the best performers and very good looking with good customer centric attitude.
I can share the digits with anyone in BKK and really interested to engage.
[QUOTE=Fasbiranwar1;2353453]Any one recently visited BKK? If then can you update me about the quality and age of Uzbek And Russian girls? I am going there tomorrow, anywhere I can find a great spot for Uzbek it Russian Girl pick up.[/QUOTE]How's time so far. I am planning as well for Bkk and pattay trip next week.
[QUOTE=Gulfcruise;2360882]Have the contacts of the best performers and very good looking with good customer centric attitude.
I can share the digits with anyone in BKK and really interested to engage.[/QUOTE]I will there in 1st week of Sep. Any suggestions for bkk for Russians?
You find very few (actually almost none) positive reviews and mentions about Russian freelancers and agogo bars in Pattaya. Mostly the info out there are about avoiding these places and that 90% is scam (they lure you in with yes can have girls yadayada then pressure you for drinks and for a simple lapdance prices already start at 1 k baht. This happened to me the only time I have been in one of those establishments).
I haven't given up hope yet and that's why I would like to ask you helpful veterans out there if it is actually possible to have one of those super hot Russian girls and what the (easiest and most cost effective) approach really is.
When I go to Patty its usually for 3-4 weeks in one go and even though I clearly prefer my Thais I like mixing things up a bit so I would like to have at least 1-2 Caucasian girls when I'm there.
Cheers guys.
Spent 4 days in pattaya this week. Only things that has changed is more indians and more indian discos. Had few girls and here it's how it went:
1) first night and day: picked a Turkish Nashaa. 6 K for night. She was nice and things were nothing great but nothing to complain about. She did ask 2 K upfront at the club whichh I refused and after some discussion with her freind. Let her go by 4 in morning. Her name is Mina.
2) same night picked a Georgian woman for 4 K at kamaaa club as it remains open till 5. She was nice but older than Turkish. She talkative if you like. Her name is sara.
3) I got indie from city of love. She is fat russian and way greater in bed than these club pick ups. Was up for anal and I obliged.
4) second night and day: I had regular Uzbek I know from last time so spent the night with till late more. She was great as usual. Her name Alla. Hangs out in Kamaa but I call her using her contacts.
5) got a Ukrainian pole Dancer for 2. 5 K an hour. Got connected with her in mamba. She is has a model figure and speaks good English. She very particular about time you book her so you need work out the schedule.
6) Booked an escort from russian69 from some one called. This was a disaster. Totally avoid this guy you will wasting time and money.
7) third night and day: picked an very tall russian from nashaa for 4 K. Forget her name but she has Long Beats extension so you can recognise her easily at the club. She doesn't hangs out often as she has regulars built over years and when they are in town she sty's with them.
7) got another russian during the day from city of love. 6 K for 2 hours but she stayed longer though. She old bit likes talk bitchy and is IP for anything that you want.
8) last night of the trip. Got back with uzbek Alla again as it was raining and did not wanted to go hunting.
Overall pattaya has gone expensive and girls older and tourist crowd shadier. So will not be visiting for sometime. There are definitely better places to monger now.
After almost a decade I was back here. Packed to the rafters with arabs (liverpool supporters making lot of noise), and DJ playing annoying arab music. I had popped my load in the Nana short time hotel, spent a couple of hours in the bar opposite big dogs shooting sh1t with couple of old timer beer bar ladies, bought them drinks but disappointed them by not picking one of them, watched Nana close for the night, watched the exodus of the lady boys, accompanied by the usual stray fights and tension with security staff, and then walked over to Grace. Had no intention of picking anyone. There were a few CIS women there, few lady boys, and some middle eastern arab looking women. An average looking CIS woman kept eyeing me while I sat at the bar and had 3 gin tonics. I walked out after closing time when the lights came on. I like it when the lights come on - firstly the prices drop and most importantly you get a good look at what you are about to buy. The Azheri woman followed me to the lobby and struck a conversation. Wanted to know why I was ignoring her and that she liked me and all that BS. She said she was going to the Grace coffee shop where some old arab would make a move at her and she was not really interested in servicing old arabs. Quoted 5 K ST if I wanted her to accompany me. I said no and walked to where the street hookers were in Grace parking lot. Smoked a cigarette. She followed me there and we talked a bit about the general state of oil politics and its effect on Azerbhaijan her home. She said she lived at Omni tower on Soi 4, sharing a suite with another gal. Seemed like she would not let me alone and asked me to quote a price. 3 K I say and off we went back to my hotel on Soi 7/1. What followed was good company over a couple of beers, a shower and great sex. A bit too aggressive and fast for my liking. But no shortcuts. BBBJ like a hoover, aggressive DATY with her on top. She came while she held me down. She was fit and I was exhausted. If one likes to be dominated she would fit the bill perfectly. Not really my style. She must have come atleast once more while I did her missionary. I did could not cum as I was very drunk and exhausted, barely able to keep my eyes open. I don't really appreciate women digging their heels into my back as it makes the deed very tiring. It was past 6 am. She asked if she could leave and that I should probably get some sleep. I say yes and off she went.
[QUOTE=Robinsmart;2370825]Overall pattaya has gone expensive and girls older and tourist crowd shadier. So will not be visiting for sometime. There are definitely better places to monger now.[/QUOTE]Better places like? I'm interested in Russian, Kazakh, Mongolian looking freelancers. Know where to find them?
Picked up a Uzbek lady Malika. For 4 k for a night. It was around 3 am. Club was pretty empty. As soon she enter my room and took 4 k she changed her attitude. Same old drama of feeling sleepy. Just BJ with condom and then short time fuck. She left after 40 minutes. What a waste of money, time and energy. My dear expats please be careful.
[QUOTE=Venom5566;2379471]Picked up a Uzbek lady Malika. For 4 k for a night. It was around 3 am. Club was pretty empty. As soon she enter my room and took 4 k she changed her attitude. Same old drama of feeling sleepy. Just BJ with condom and then short time fuck. She left after 40 minutes. What a waste of money, time and energy. My dear expats please be careful.[/QUOTE]This is definitely the a comment on the danger of paying in advance and then not getting what is paid for. Being a mongering Optimist in Thailand is not working well in the modern day.
Perhaps also that the lady is not really intending to provide all expected for as little as 4 K. I never like to take a lady for all night on the first meeting. I have tried to negotiate an extension to all night, on occasion, if the ST went especially well.
[QUOTE=Venom5566;2379471]Picked up a Uzbek lady Malika. For 4 k for a night. It was around 3 am. Club was pretty empty. As soon she enter my room and took 4 k she changed her attitude. Same old drama of feeling sleepy. Just BJ with condom and then short time fuck. She left after 40 minutes. What a waste of money, time and energy. My dear expats please be careful.[/QUOTE]They are little challenging.
There are more from Philip. Vietnam, who provide excellent services and keep us joyful. I always take the reliable.
[QUOTE=Gulfcruise;2360882]Have the contacts of the best performers and very good looking with good customer centric attitude.
I can share the digits with anyone in BKK and really interested to engage.[/QUOTE]I heard some Moroccan and Iranian have also started to work in BKK at the 2 Arabic only clubs near the grace hotel on soi 4 .
Is it correct information mate or am I misinformed.
Cheers will definitely use your Uzbek and Russian contacts on the next trip to pussy land.
[QUOTE=Gulfcruise;2360882]Have the contacts of the best performers and very good looking with good customer centric attitude.
I can share the digits with anyone in BKK and really interested to engage.[/QUOTE]Hello,
Would you please send me contacts of Uzbek ladies in Bangkok. Thank you.
[QUOTE=Gulfcruise;2360882]Have the contacts of the best performers and very good looking with good customer centric attitude.
I can share the digits with anyone in BKK and really interested to engage.[/QUOTE]Hi mate,
I will be in Bangkok and Pattaya in 1st week of December, can you be lease provide some contacts of Russian and you ther euro girls or sp. Much appreciate. My PM is active thanks.
Hi bro.
Could you please PM me any contacts of girls or mamasan / SP.
I will be in Bangkok and Pattaya next week.
Thanks bro appreciate your help.
[QUOTE=Robinsmart;2370825]Spent 4 days in pattaya this week. Only things that has changed is more indians and more indian discos. Had few girls and here it's how it went:
1) first night and day: picked a Turkish Nashaa. 6 K for night. She was nice and things were nothing great but nothing to complain about. She did ask 2 K upfront at the club whichh I refused and after some discussion with her freind. Let her go by 4 in morning. Her name is Mina.
2) same night picked a Georgian woman for 4 K at kamaaa club as it remains open till 5. She was nice but older than Turkish. She talkative if you like. Her name is sara.
3) I got indie from city of love. She is fat russian and way greater in bed than these club pick ups. Was up for anal and I obliged..[/QUOTE]
Hello patrons,
I am looking for some good CIS or Arab chick. As last time I had bad experience with a Uzbek I picked up from club. I am looking for some contacts from senior members who had good experience. Will be looking forward to hear from you. Thanks.
Hi all,
I am in Bangkok and Pattaya in first week of December, can you please share any info or digits of CIS, Russian girls.
Senior members your help will be appreciated.
PM is active. I can help with some contacts in Mumbai or Sydney.
Reportedly 9 girls recently scooped up from Eddie's bar. All from Uganda. Also 4 girls from Madagascar arrested at Insomnia. Can someone confirm this? I got this from a girl.
[QUOTE=IndiaAus;2397228]Hi all,
I am in Bangkok and Pattaya in first week of December, can you please share any info or digits of CIS, Russian girls.
Senior members your help will be appreciated.
PM is active. I can help with some contacts in Mumbai or Sydney.[/QUOTE]I did some scouting around walking street in pattaya last night, there's a few Russian erotic bars but never went in there, literally everyone tells me they're a complete rip off and the girls often make some excuse to not provide the service after you've paid up. I did go into a couple of the night clubs here. There were a couple of Russian freelancers in Mixx, they quoted 7 K baht for the night, they weren't even that good looking (7/10) I would say. Also encountered a couple of Uzbek ladies in Nasha club. One of them was very grumpy, terrible attitude, dunno what got her in that mood but I didn't bother asking her rate, she was also a 7/10. The second Uzbek was a bit more attractive, 8/10 and she quoted 3 K for one hour. So yeah, not great value for money, honestly I wouldn't bother going for any non-Thai girls in Thailand.
I just had my first one by chance encounter near nana not even knowing she was Vietnamese at first. I want more. Of these enchanting women. Whats the executive summary on where to meet Vietnamese WGs in BKK?
[QUOTE=CoconutWater89;2414873]I just had my first one by chance encounter near nana not even knowing she was Vietnamese at first. I want more. Of these enchanting women. Whats the executive summary on where to meet Vietnamese WGs in BKK?[/QUOTE]I had Vietnamese in China and Singapore. I prefer them over Thais and Chinese, yet to find out any place in BKK where they flock. If anyone has direct contact, please share by PM, otherwise a general description would be great starting point. Will be in BKK 19-22 Feb.
[QUOTE=CoconutWater89;2414873]I just had my first one by chance encounter near nana not even knowing she was Vietnamese at first. I want more. Of these enchanting women. Whats the executive summary on where to meet Vietnamese WGs in BKK?[/QUOTE]The most I have seen and chatted with stand on the sidewalk in front of Hillary 1 Bar on Sukhumvit Soi 4/Soi Nana.
Over a year ago I met a very good looking one on Tinder who did not work on the street and only emerged from her nearby room to meet her interested customer Tinder Matches face to face. She was also the only one from whom I have gotten an upfront agreement for what I consider a True GFE/Real Sex. It was a Long Time from around 9 pm until 12 noon or so the next day. Cost me 7,000 baht, down from her starting point of 15,000 baht for, frankly, much less than I wanted and would even pay 500 baht for. But we worked it all out in advance that night over a drink.
The ones on the street go for 1,000 baht and up for Short Times of covered FS, or so they say, nothing dramatically different than the Thai girls out there.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2421841]The most I have seen and chatted with stand on the sidewalk in front of Hillary 1 Bar on Sukhumvit Soi 4/Soi Nana.
Over a year ago I met a very good looking one on Tinder who did not work on the street and only emerged from her nearby room to meet her interested customer Tinder Matches face to face. She was also the only one from whom I have gotten an upfront agreement for what I consider a True GFE/Real Sex. It was a Long Time from around 9 pm until 12 noon or so the next day. Cost me 7,000 baht, down from her starting point of 15,000 baht for, frankly, much less than I wanted and would even pay 500 baht for. But we worked it all out in advance that night over a drink.
The ones on the street go for 1,000 baht and up for Short Times of covered FS, or so they say, nothing dramatically different than the Thai girls out there.[/QUOTE]Except they will try to steal from you. Been there, done that.
I'm really surprised that this forum is this silent because so many foreign girls are stuck in bkk with no money, and they all doing the p4 p to earn some bucks quickly. To be fare, I didn't write any report for them too LOL.
Talked with stranded Filipino, japs, koreans, laotian to some latinas, though didn't meet everyone. But ST was in 2000-3500 range. Contacted all of them via tinder.
[QUOTE=Gargano19;2460459] But ST was in 2000-3500 range. Contacted all of them via tinder.[/QUOTE]Did you mention anything specific in your bio to get them to match? The ones looking for P4P.
In general all girls in BKK who are jobless and can't go home are willing to sleep with you for some money.
Most are Thai, but also Filipina, Vietnam, Japanese. You have choice.
Depending on your own looks too.
[QUOTE=KillTheHamster;2460461]Did you mention anything specific in your bio to get them to match? The ones looking for P4P.[/QUOTE]No, my bio is pretty generic. I think they just match as many as possible, I mean why they would be selective in matching, they're looking for customer after all.
[QUOTE=Mens2;2460479]In general all girls in BKK who are jobless and can't go home are willing to sleep with you for some money.
Most are Thai, but also Filipina, Vietnam, Japanese. You have choice.
Depending on your own looks too.[/QUOTE]Yes. All will leave once flights are back up, but till then they're earning what they can. No one is earning much tho, there are just not enough monger here in Bangkok.
There's this Korean chick, pretty basic looks. If she was Thai I might have skipped. But because it's been a long time I was in Seoul, and will be a long time I return there. So just went with her. She asked 7000 for ST, and ended up agreeing with 3500 2 shots. Pretty ordinary service, even though she told me she was doing this back home too. Service is always hit-and-miss with these tinder findings but it's more exciting than Massage shops where you pretty much know what's going to happen from start to end.
You can't even just find them by talking.
Some are really straight forward and kinda in troubles.
It's paradise!
[QUOTE=Mens2;2460479]In general all girls in BKK who are jobless and can't go home are willing to sleep with you for some money.
Most are Thai, but also Filipina, Vietnam, Japanese. You have choice.
Depending on your own looks too.[/QUOTE]As an experiment I created a fake tinder profile and uploaded photos of a male model. I got a lot of matches from inter girl types who have studied abroad but not many from obvious p4 p girls.
[QUOTE=*****man;2460625]As an experiment I created a fake tinder profile and uploaded photos of a male model. I got a lot of matches from inter girl types who have studied abroad but not many from obvious p4 p girls.[/QUOTE]So if you get a lot of P4P matches, means you need to go more often to the gym.
[QUOTE=*****man;2460625]As an experiment I created a fake tinder profile and uploaded photos of a male model. I got a lot of matches from inter girl types who have studied abroad but not many from obvious p4 p girls.[/QUOTE]I got some likes from obvious WGs (met two of my current regular there), and lots and lots of ladyboys like 50% of my likes are LBs (most write it in their bios unlike TF). Also got some likes from single moms in their 30's. I'd say 10-15% likes are from uni girls or actual working girls who don't say they're WG in first 5 exchange of messages.
[QUOTE=Gargano19;2460765]I got some likes from obvious WGs (met two of my current regular there), and lots and lots of ladyboys like 50% of my likes are LBs (most write it in their bios unlike TF). Also got some likes from single moms in their 30's. I'd say 10-15% likes are from uni girls or actual working girls who don't say they're WG in first 5 exchange of messages.[/QUOTE]My fake profile got a load of likes from uni girls with things like no ONS and no FWB in their profile. I had to Google those. Also quite a few professional (in the proper sense) women with pictures of themselves drinking wine in international locations. So clearly being good-looking is not going to get you decent WGs on tinder. Next experiment is to create a fake profile of an ugly old man and see what matches I get.
[QUOTE=*****man;2460796]My fake profile got a load of likes from uni girls with things like no ONS and no FWB in their profile. I had to Google those. Also quite a few professional (in the proper sense) women with pictures of themselves drinking wine in international locations. So clearly being good-looking is not going to get you decent WGs on tinder. Next experiment is to create a fake profile of an ugly old man and see what matches I get.[/QUOTE]Did you use tinder gold? Because that tells you who liked you, otherwise you have to swipe right to see if matched or not. I got few likes from those fancy pic girls too, with pics from Italy and Japan. Never swiped right those, I try to keep my matches small otherwise it gets complicated to handle chats. I also avoid girls who say "looking for relationship".
The ones which say no fwb and no ONS, is not always true from my experience. As long as you can write Thai, it's easier to talk to non-pros.
I don't know how many of your matches were bisexual, because there are lots of bis there "looking for fun". I got 3 matches, and only one was interested in what I was interested in. Tho meeting never got finalised but she is still in my contact, so never say never for an exciting threesome
[QUOTE=CoconutWater89;2414873]I just had my first one by chance encounter near nana not even knowing she was Vietnamese at first. I want more. Of these enchanting women. Whats the executive summary on where to meet Vietnamese WGs in BKK?[/QUOTE]When you find please let me know Vietnamese love to spend my time with them.
[QUOTE=JohnReter335;2465213]When you find please let me know Vietnamese love to spend my time with them.[/QUOTE]Easy to find. Over the last few weeks, there have been 5-10 or Vietnamese streetwalkers on Soi 4 each evening (a few live in Nana Condo, mostly hang out as a group), and several walking on Sukhumvit road as well.
There's one looker among them insisting on 1500ST, for the rest the ST going rate seems to be 1000 baht (take them back at your place or wherever you want). What you get for that money varies, from amazing GFE with the girl popping me 3 x without me asking, to ok but basic service.
Generally, I find Vietnamese less consistent than Thais, if they like you, they'll fuck your brains out, but if they're unimpressed, their service will be basic. Thais tend to be a little more consistent. Unfortunately, these days nearly all Thai working girls are unreliable, hardened dregs of society, bottom of the bottom, while those few Viets about on Sukhumvit seem to be more normal types (bit like the Thai working girls 10 years ago). Some might not even be hookers back home, just stuck due to Covid and unable to make money otherwise.
Viets are shrewd and I get an impression that in the current crisis they realize the value of return customers (insist on connecting on Line, send messages to remind you of their existence but don't press, do not bargain when I offer 1000 and ask them to go to my place). Thais are too set in their ways and too spaced out to care, a rare attractive one I took off Soi 4 in June insisted on 3 k ST and wouldn't budge for 3 days, until I got her down to 1 k a week later (but she tried bargaining again and was still vehement about not going to my room. And she missed out on repeats).
Anyway, the Viets will be back home as soon as borders are open, so enjoy while you can. The 3 Viets I picked so far were [I]almost[/I] like a throwback to good old times with Sukhumvit freelancers, but sadly there are only about a dozen available, and it won't last.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2465543]Easy to find. Over the last few weeks, there have been 5-10 or Vietnamese streetwalkers on Soi 4 each evening (a few live in Nana Condo, mostly hang out as a group), and several walking on Sukhumvit road as well.
There's one looker among them insisting on 1500ST, for the rest the ST going rate seems to be 1000 baht (take them back at your place or wherever you want). What you get for that money varies, from amazing GFE with the girl popping me 3 x without me asking, to OK but basic service.
Generally, I find Vietnamese less consistent than Thais, if they like you, they'll fuck your brains out, but if they're unimpressed, their service will be basic. Thais tend to be a little more consistent. Unfortunately, these days nearly all Thai working girls are unreliable, hardened dregs of society, bottom of the bottom, while those few Viets about on Sukhumvit seem to be more normal types (bit like the Thai working girls 10 years ago). Some might not even be hookers back home, just stuck due to Covid and unable to make money otherwise.
Viets are shrewd and I get an impression that in the current crisis they realize the value of return customers (insist on connecting on Line, send messages to remind you of their existence but don't press, do not bargain when I offer 1000 and ask them to go to my place). Thais are too set in their ways and too spaced out to care, a rare attractive one I took off Soi 4 in June insisted on 3 k ST and wouldn't budge for 3 days, until I got her down to 1 k a week later (but she tried bargaining again and was still vehement about not going to my room. And she missed out on repeats)..[/QUOTE]I love Viet girls for the same reasons you say. They're fun on LINE, send photos a lot more easily than Thai girls, and fuck like crazy / spend the night and fuck in the morning. I've had only pleasant experiences with them.
[QUOTE=MissionAsia;2469901]They're fun on LINE, send photos a lot more easily than Thai girls, and fuck like crazy / spend the night and fuck in the morning. [/QUOTE]I've found things quite the opposite. Guess Viets like you way more than me and Thais like me more than you. Perfect example of YMMV when we all discuss things. No different than no one else in Thailand getting BBFS from 90% of the girls available like Gilolollipop does.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2469938]I've found things quite the opposite. Guess Viets like you way more than me and Thais like me more than you. Perfect example of YMMV when we all discuss things. No different than no one else in Thailand getting BBFS from 90% of the girls available like Gilolollipop does.[/QUOTE]Well, don't forget that Mr. Entertainment assures us he gets BBFS+CIP without discussion or resistance from 90% of the available girls in Thailand, that they are the "exact same" girls you and MonkeyPaw tout as the top girls in the best go-go bars and clubs and he gets them LT for only 1,000 baht, virtually never more than that and has done that almost nightly for the past several years whenever he is in Thailand.
And he is adamant that any punter will get the same results if they just go for it, treat them like the hookers they are and stop putting them on a pedestal.
MonkeyPaw confirmed he was right about that.
But on the issue of Vietnamese girls in Thailand, my results have been abysmal. Mind you, I am one of those guys who has gotten BBFS+CIP with almost every one of the thousands of girls I have sessioned with everywhere in the world including Thailand. But that's because I select and negotiate upfront for it. I can only marvel at the punters who get it from any and every Thai girl at least 90% of the time mostly with little or no discussion or resistance about it including the top girls in the best go-go bars and clubs.
That being the case, exactly 1 Vietnamese girl in Thailand out of a half dozen or more attempts has agreed to BBFS+CIP with me. So I can't say my observation and experience is that they fuck like "crazy." More like "a nervous virgin saving herself for someone else." The 1 that agreed to it wasn't even all that great in bed and I foolishly paid her 7,000 baht for LT mostly because she was very good looking (and agreed to a well rounded LT).
However, that was definitely not the case for me with Vietnamese girls I met in the USA and in Vietnam. Only the ones I've met in Thailand.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2469964]That being the case, exactly 1 Vietnamese girl in Thailand out of a half dozen or more attempts has agreed to BBFS+CIP with me. So I can't say my observation and experience is that they fuck like "crazy." More like "a nervous virgin saving herself for someone else." The 1 that agreed to it wasn't even all that great in bed and I foolishly paid her 7,000 baht for LT mostly because she was very good looking (and agreed to a well rounded LT).[/QUOTE]It was a Vietnamese girl that taught me not to trust a deal made on the street.
My normal is CFS with the first girl of the day, but I usually need BBFS if I'm going to finish a 2nd time in a day. Late one February evening a cute Vietnamese freelancer on Soi 11 caught my eye, but I knew I couldn't finish with CFS. While on the street we negotiated BBFS CIP, I think it was going to be 1500 baht. Once in the room she lectured me about there being nothing wrong with CFS, but BBFS was a terrible thing and she would never do it. She claimed she didn't understand what I wanted while talking on the street (BS). I should have just tossed her out of my room, but I ended up giving her some extra money for the BBFS CIP. When we were finished, she again lectured me about the evils of BBFS and then insisted I take her Line ID and she promised to do BBFS with only me. 555.
I had a similar situation with a Thai girl in a Samui bar just 2 weeks later. This was my 2nd session of the day so I negotiated BBFS CIP in the bar, but she refused BBFS in the room. I got the same lecture from this Thai girl that I heard from the Vietnamese girl: nothing wrong with CFS but BBFS is bad. This time I was able to finish with CFS. As she was leaving, she gave me her line ID and told me that she would do BBFS next time. Almost the same deal as with the Vietnamese girl.
When it comes to BBFS, I'm not sure I see a difference between Thai and Vietnamese girls. I must admit that my experience with Vietnamese girls is only a few.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2469996]It was a Vietnamese girl that taught me not to trust a deal made on the street.
My normal is CFS with the first girl of the day, but I usually need BBFS if I'm going to finish a 2nd time in a day. Late one February evening a cute Vietnamese freelancer on Soi 11 caught my eye, but I knew I couldn't finish with CFS. While on the street we negotiated BBFS CIP, I think it was going to be 1500 baht. Once in the room she lectured me about there being nothing wrong with CFS, but BBFS was a terrible thing and she would never do it. She claimed she didn't understand what I wanted while talking on the street (BS). I should have just tossed her out of my room, but I ended up giving her some extra money for the BBFS CIP. When we were finished, she again lectured me about the evils of BBFS and then insisted I take her Line ID and she promised to do BBFS with only me. 555.
I had a similar situation with a Thai girl in a Samui bar just 2 weeks later. This was my 2nd session of the day so I negotiated BBFS CIP in the bar, but she refused BBFS in the room. I got the same lecture from this Thai girl that I heard from the Vietnamese girl: nothing wrong with CFS but BBFS is bad. This time I was able to finish with CFS. As she was leaving, she gave me her line ID and told me that she would do BBFS next time. Almost the same deal as with the Vietnamese girl.
When it comes to BBFS, I'm not sure I see a difference between Thai and Vietnamese girls. I must admit that my experience with Vietnamese girls is only a few.[/QUOTE]LOL. That is funny. For some guys the "Safety First, Must Wear Condom" lecture in the room often leads to a BBFS+CIP anyway I suppose. It rarely does for me. And on the rare occasion it evolved to BBFS, the girl has still done something weird to thwart the CIP part of it; excessive wiggling, shifting and changing positions or within seconds "forgetting" to do one simple and easy thing with her fingertips on my balls I usually need to finish when she can sense I am getting close. Just not worth it. I put them out with little or no money depending on what we have done up to that point the moment the lecture begins if she gave me an upfront agreement for BBFS+CIP. I really don't care how it might have turned out otherwise.
In my case, the Vietnamese girl did not stand on the street, met me on Tinder and would only come to Soi 4 after I was already there waiting for her. She was notably better looking than the other Thai girls who used to stand on Soi 4. We struck our deal sitting at the Dynasty Inn outside bar area. Of course, that doesn't change your point about making a deal on the street.
She kept her part of the agreement fully; DFK, shaved pussy (already was anyway), DATY, BBFS+CIP that evening, BBBJ+CIM+100% Cum Swallow the next morning, had her from around 10pm until 12Noon the next day. No unscheduled lecture in the room.
It's just that she wasn't all that good at any of it. Maybe because her starting point was her claimed "usual" 15,000 baht for ST, CFS or BBBJ+CIM+Spit vs the final above agreement for 7,000 baht. LOL. But I would not have paid her as much for less than the what she agreed to no matter how hot she was.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2469996]It was a Vietnamese girl that taught me not to trust a deal made on the street.
My normal is CFS with the first girl of the day, but I usually need BBFS if I'm going to finish a 2nd time in a day. Late one February evening a cute Vietnamese freelancer on Soi 11 caught my eye, but I knew I couldn't finish with CFS. While on the street we negotiated BBFS CIP, I think it was going to be 1500 baht. Once in the room she lectured me about there being nothing wrong with CFS, but BBFS was a terrible thing and she would never do it. She claimed she didn't understand what I wanted while talking on the street (BS). I should have just tossed her out of my room, but I ended up giving her some extra money for the BBFS CIP. When we were finished, she again lectured me about the evils of BBFS and then insisted I take her Line ID and she promised to do BBFS with only me. 555.
I had a similar situation with a Thai girl in a Samui bar just 2 weeks later. This was my 2nd session of the day so I negotiated BBFS CIP in the bar, but she refused BBFS in the room. I got the same lecture from this Thai girl that I heard from the Vietnamese girl: nothing wrong with CFS but BBFS is bad. This time I was able to finish with CFS. As she was leaving, she gave me her line ID and told me that she would do BBFS next time. Almost the same deal as with the Vietnamese girl.
When it comes to BBFS, I'm not sure I see a difference between Thai and Vietnamese girls. I must admit that my experience with Vietnamese girls is only a few.[/QUOTE]Dude, just go to the Philippines.
Many times I've had the opposite: online or face to face warnings that I MUST have condoms ready in the room or there is NO WAY the girl is having BB sex. Once in the room these warnings are instantly forgotten and the fun begins.
I don't even ask now.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2465543]Anyway, the Viets will be back home as soon as borders are open, so enjoy while you can. The 3 Viets I picked so far were [I]almost[/I] like a throwback to good old times with Sukhumvit freelancers, but sadly there are only about a dozen available, and it won't last.[/QUOTE]I really enjoyed meeting very attractive Vietnam ladies I've seen in Singapore. I've never met any in Thailand, but have noticed the rare report of them being available in Bangkok. But, from my reading, Kuala Lumpur, like Singapore, seems like a place where they are easy to find. Of course Saigon, or rather HCMC, could also be considered & researched if one is into Vietnamese females.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2470070]Dude, just go to the Philippines.
Many times I've had the opposite: online or face to face warnings that I MUST have condoms ready in the room or there is NO WAY the girl is having BB sex. Once in the room these warnings are instantly forgotten and the fun begins.
I don't even ask now.
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]I've been tempted to visit the Philippines. The sex would be great, but I don't expect the other 22 hours of the day would be as good. I always enjoy the non-sex things in Thailand.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2470184]I've been tempted to visit the Philippines. The sex would be great, but I don't expect the other 22 hours of the day would be as good. I always enjoy the non-sex things in Thailand.[/QUOTE]Yeah, there is always something to do in BKK and the food is great. That is why it is still my favorite big city in Asia, but the PI is worth a visit. Pinays are real sweet and GFE is their forte. Manila is no BKK, but I prefer it over AC (which is no Pattaya, BTW, 555) because there is more to do in MNL than in AC, more better hotels & restaurants, and MNL girls are better looking and wilder. The downside is MNL is more expensive than AC, although prices are comparable to BKK more or less. I.E. A night with a good looking Go Go girl will cost roughly the same amount in BKK or MNL. So, check it out. It is a no lose situation, you will have a good time even if it turns out you prefer Thailand over the PI in the final analysis.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2470220]Yeah, there is always something to do in BKK and the food is great. That is why it is.
Still my favorite big city, but the PI is worth a visit. Pinays are real sweet and GFE is their forte. Manila is no BKK, but I prefer it over AC (which is no Pattaya, 555) because there is more to do in MNL than in AC, more better hotels & restaurants, and MNL girls are better looking and wilder. The downside is MNL is more expensive than AC, but comparable to BKK more or less. I. E. A night with a Go Go girl will cost roughly the same amount in BKK or MNL. So, check it out. It is a no lose situation even if it turns out you prefer Thailand over the PI.[/QUOTE]Another really bad thing about Manila is the traffic. It's worse than Bangkok's. And I hear Jakarta's traffic is even worse than Manila (holy moly). Agree that if you've never been to The PI, then it's worth a visit, as there are some interesting things to see and do as a first-time tourist. And if you like going bareback, then The PI is easy LOL! Many here can attest.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2470070]Dude, just go to the Philippines.
[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2470220] ... but the PI is worth a visit. Pinays are real sweet and GFE is their forte....[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TheCane;2470225]...Agree that if you've never been to The PI, then it's worth a visit, as there are some interesting things to see and do as a first-time tourist.....[/QUOTE]It's time for me to consider a visit to PI. Maybe a total 8 week trip to Asia. First 3 weeks in Thailand, then 1 or 2 weeks in PI, then finish up in Thailand.
Trip planning would be so much easier if there were a forum where experienced people wrote their thoughts punting in PI. Just kidding, I'll start reading the PI forum. So far I've only looked at the tempting pictures.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2470184]I've been tempted to visit the Philippines. The sex would be great, but I don't expect the other 22 hours of the day would be as good. I always enjoy the non-sex things in Thailand.[/QUOTE]Depends. PI has some nice and interesting areas and the internet now means that girls are available everywhere, not just the traditional red light areas. If you like big cities and bright lights, its Manila or cebu but there are many areas that offer natural attractions, beaches, diving, surfing etc. Just do some research or reach out to the old hands in the PI board.
I'd agree that Manila traffic sux but I like to get out on foot and look around so I just stay central to everything I want to see so traffic becomes a non issue.
The one negative is indeed the food. PI food is no where near enjoyable as LOS or Indonesia.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2469996]It was a Vietnamese girl that taught me not to trust a deal made on the street... I should have just tossed her out of my room, but I ended up giving her some extra money for the BBFS CIP. [/QUOTE]Since she got the extra money, you certainly taught her to repeat her little game of changing the deal with the next punter.
I'm rather against BBFS, but a deal is a deal, and a-la-carte upcharging for sex is just awful. Indeed, you should have tossed her out of the room, but we all have our weak moments.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2470250]I'd agree that Manila traffic sux but I like to get out on foot and look around so I just stay central to everything I want to see so traffic becomes a non issue. The one negative is indeed the food. PI food is no where near enjoyable as LOS or Indonesia.
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Don't know really how you can stay central to everything as a first time visitor trying to go see this and that as a tourist. I found places to be spread all over the city, including all the top tute locations. Was a pain. And although I agree that Filipino food is not as good as Thai, I did find some good places to eat, including some more high-end joints. Also had to try some of the local fare, including Jollibee LOL! Couldn't go there without hitting up the bee!
[QUOTE=TheCane;2470265]Don't know really how you can stay central to everything as a first time visitor trying to go see this and that as a tourist. I found places to be spread all over the city, including all the top tute locations. Was a pain. And although I agree that Filipino food is not as good as Thai, I did find some good places to eat, including some more high-end joints. Also had to try some of the local fare, including Jollibee LOL! Couldn't go there without hitting up the bee![/QUOTE]Greenbelt, Manila and Ayala, Cebu suit me: walking distance to food and daytime entertainment and a short taxi to fun at night. Of course, YMMV.
I don't want to commandeer the Thailand thread but there is lots of info available in the relevant Philippine threads.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2470225]Another really bad thing about Manila is the traffic. It's worse than Bangkok's. And I hear Jakarta's traffic is even worse than Manila (holy moly). Agree that if you've never been to The PI, then it's worth a visit, as there are some interesting things to see and do as a first-time tourist. And if you like going bareback, then The PI is easy LOL! Many here can attest.[/QUOTE]Well me, I do bareback everywhere in Asia. Thailand, Cambodia and PI, no problems at all! Girls right now use mask! But never use condoms! And if they want condom, just pay them more and they all accept!
[QUOTE=Gilolo;2473773]Well me, I do bareback everywhere in Asia. Thailand, Cambodia and PI, no problems at all! Girls right now use mask! But never use condoms! And if they want condom, just pay them more and they all accept![/QUOTE]Am I the only one that is already worried going for a BBBJ? Have you ever caught any StD from your stints? Not asking to get inspired but just trying to understand the ratio between "pleasure" and "risk"?
[QUOTE=HelloBello1982;2473800]Am I the only one that is already worried going for a BBBJ? Have you ever caught any StD from your stints? Not asking to get inspired but just trying to understand the ratio between "pleasure" and "risk"?[/QUOTE]Well in more than 10 years I never catch any STD. And I'm very careful about the girls I take. I take only young, fresh and sexy ladies who look good! I'm so horny when I fuck bareback and I love each time to creampie them! I think in 10 years I fucked the most sexy ladies of Pattaya and Bkk.
[QUOTE=HelloBello1982;2473800]Am I the only one that is already worried going for a BBBJ? ?[/QUOTE]Yes, probably.
[QUOTE=HelloBello1982;2473800]Am I the only one that is already worried going for a BBBJ? Have you ever caught any STD from your stints? Not asking to get inspired but just trying to understand the ratio between "pleasure" and "risk"?[/QUOTE]I had an STD (Gonorrhea) from a BBBJ with CIM. It was in FKK land some years ago. I speak about it openly. No problem. The doctor cured me. If you want to be absolutely sure to get no STD then you should simply not have sex. You can opt to have a CBJ and risk is not zero but minimal. If you want BBBJ and you want to reduce the risk of an STD just take care that your dick doesn't go into her throat. Then you will be mostly just fine. So don't accept deepthroat. If you do deepthroat anyway than the girl has to be infected to give you the disease. So, it still is not very likely to get that disease. But if the girl does have an STD in her throat (e. G. Gonorrhea or Chlamydia) and she deepthroats you the chances are minimal that you will be safe. Contact your doctor soon and in a week or so you should be done. Just one side note: it can hurt quite bad. But then you will have no hesitation visiting your doctor.
Just a little extra for people who want to know. STD's cannot survive in a person's mouth. But in the throat they can, notably Gonorrhea and Chlamydia. That is because of a different kind of 'skin' and saliva. If you still want to know more, ask your doctor.
[QUOTE=HelloBello1982;2473800]Am I the only one that is already worried going for a BBBJ? Have you ever caught any StD from your stints? Not asking to get inspired but just trying to understand the ratio between "pleasure" and "risk"?[/QUOTE]Years ago I would get countless BBBJ from drug addicted street walkers in USA. This was mostly in my car with little ability to clean myself after. All my FS with these girls were with condoms. Eventually, I got a bacterial infection, which was resolved by antibiotics.
I'm no expert, but I would never again have any BB contact with a professional without the ability to thoroughly clean and piss immediately after.
[QUOTE=HelloBello1982;2473800]Am I the only one that is already worried going for a BBBJ? Have you ever caught any StD from your stints? Not asking to get inspired but just trying to understand the ratio between "pleasure" and "risk"?[/QUOTE]Even if guys got STD or HIV they would not likely post that on a public board!
If you are worried about stuff like STD you should stick with civilian girls but even that isn't safe. If she let you pick her up at a bar be certain you aren't the only guy she's banging. If you are still worried, this isn't the hobby for you or double bag it.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2474077]If you are still worried, this isn't the hobby for you or double bag it.[/QUOTE]1. This discussion belongs in the safer sex forum.
2. Using two condoms at the same time actually INCREASES the risk of breakage. By all means have more than one condom on hand. But use them one at a time.
[URL]https://www.contraception.org.au/barrier/two-condoms-at-once/[/URL]
Pick this funny girl on beach road one afternoon bit weird but really good fuck.
[QUOTE=DioRetz;2473949]I had an STD (Gonorrhea) from a BBBJ with CIM. It was in FKK land some years ago. I speak about it openly. No problem. The doctor cured me. If you want to be absolutely sure to get no STD then you should simply not have sex. You can opt to have a CBJ and risk is not zero but minimal. If you want BBBJ and you want to reduce the risk of an STD just take care that your dick doesn't go into her throat. Then you will be mostly just fine. So don't accept deepthroat. If you do deepthroat anyway than the girl has to be infected to give you the disease. So, it still is not very likely to get that disease. But if the girl does have an STD in her throat (e. G. Gonorrhea or Chlamydia) and she deepthroats you the chances are minimal that you will be safe. Contact your doctor soon and in a week or so you should be done. Just one side note: it can hurt quite bad. But then you will have no hesitation visiting your doctor.
Just a little extra for people who want to know. STD's cannot survive in a person's mouth. But in the throat they can, notably Gonorrhea and Chlamydia. That is because of a different kind of 'skin' and saliva. If you still want to know more, ask your doctor.[/QUOTE]Thanks. We need to find the right mix with safety and pleasure. If I take me as an example. I am more into safety because after done the job. I need to be free as before. Without thinking about aftereffects. But all up to individual thoughts.
If I bareback 3 girls in Pattaya I am certain to get gono or chlamydia. Why is that? Nothing wrong with my immune system for sure, quite the reverse. I wonder how barebacking can be sustainable to other mongers. No offence meant, but I suspect they might simply be very tolerant to symtoms, especially if they have a lot of sex (because of some flushing effect). If this my hunch is true it's a hell of a vicious circle for all concerned.
[QUOTE=XXL;2596511]If I bareback 3 girls in Pattaya I am certain to get gono or chlamydia. Why is that? Nothing wrong with my immune system for sure, quite the reverse. I wonder how barebacking can be sustainable to other mongers. No offence meant, but I suspect they might simply be very tolerant to symtoms, especially if they have a lot of sex (because of some flushing effect). If this my hunch is true it's a hell of a vicious circle for all concerned.[/QUOTE]I'd say it's your choice of girls.
You need to be selective in Thailand about choosing when to bareback, and with whom.
That said I've barebacked in Pattaya, a lot, and non stop across Thailand, Isaan, Bangkok, Hua Hin, Koh Samui, and at home in Phuket without ever catching anything.
Could I have caught it in Pattaya?
For sure given some of the girls I saw or was with, but when in doubt I covered up.
To be honest I think the issue in Pattaya isn't so much the girls as the cleanliness of the punters there.
The "tourist" punters visiting there are / were always pushing bareback, and the girls complied.
A vicious circle of infection, one started I'd argue by the punters being infected who visited.
And it's not a circle I've experienced anywhere else in my years of fucking around Thailand.
I wish I had the balls to bareback a working girl, but the fear of contracting something that can't be cured always gets me to suit up. Maybe I'm just paranoid.
[QUOTE=ThaiGoodTimes;2596537]I'd say it's your choice of girls.
You need to be selective in Thailand about choosing when to bareback, and with whom.
That said I've barebacked in Pattaya, a lot, and non stop across Thailand, Isaan, Bangkok, Hua Hin, Koh Samui, and at home in Phuket without ever catching anything.
Could I have caught it in Pattaya?
For sure given some of the girls I saw or was with, but when in doubt I covered up.
To be honest I think the issue in Pattaya isn't so much the girls as the cleanliness of the punters there.
The "tourist" punters visiting there are / were always pushing bareback, and the girls complied.
A vicious circle of infection, one started I'd argue by the punters being infected who visited.
And it's not a circle I've experienced anywhere else in my years of fucking around Thailand.[/QUOTE]Well, I go for 10 years in Thailand and especially in Pattaya! I always bareback the girls on Soi 6, or Soi Bukhao or everywhere in Pattaya and Bangkok and I've never catch anything! After I' m very difficult on the girls! I love only very sexy girls 18/25 who look clean and in good health. I don't go with all the girls!
I think I fucked bareback about 100 girls in Pattaya and everything is fine!
[QUOTE=Jny88;2596927]I wish I had the balls to bareback a working girl, but the fear of contracting something that can't be cured always gets me to suit up. Maybe I'm just paranoid.[/QUOTE]Just be careful of the quality of the girl! I go Thailand for over 10 years and especially in Pattaya, I'm 40 and I never catch anything! But I'm very difficult on the girls I choose! I really like high sexy girls who are between 18/25. I look normal. I think I fucked about 100 girls in Soi 6 and everywhere in Pattaya! I think I fucked the most beautiful Thai girls bareback in Pattaya the last 10 years.
I still fuck some girls who have a boyfriend when I go Pattaya.
Only few girls asked me to put a condom, but if you propose them 500 or even 1000 bahts the problem is resolved and they let you fuck them how you want! I'm very famous in Pattaya and especially in Soi 6, all the girls know me and when I.
[QUOTE=Gilolo;2597098]Well, I go for 10 years in Thailand and especially in Pattaya! I always bareback the girls on Soi 6, or Soi Bukhao or everywhere in Pattaya and Bangkok and I've never catch anything! After I' m very difficult on the girls! I love only very sexy girls 18/25 who look clean and in good health. I don't go with all the girls!
I think I fucked bareback about 100 girls in Pattaya and everything is fine![/QUOTE]This is some nonsense. I know plenty of young fresh beautiful college girls that have more STDs than I have sperm count in my balls. I have also known pretty conservative girls who made mistakes and ended up dealing with an std all their lives including in marriage. Goes to show some people have no clue what they are talking about. The only thing you're doing is convincing people not to bareback in the bars you may have visited. I hope you go by the name Gilolo because I will be asking girls if it sounds familiar.
As far as Paranoia at Jny, I hear you, better have a little paranoia before than a lot after, like me. I just couldn't resist her. BJ skills that cannot be enjoyed with cover and a bubble but that was calling out my name. Thoroughly enjoyed every second of it knowing I was taking a risk. A few days later something was wrong. Paranoia for days, no sleep but refused to go to the doc for fear of hearing something I couldn't deal with, if it was serious then how would I explain the need to cover up when with my significant other.
The symptoms got worse, pain increased, went to the doc. Long story short it was treatable and I got off easy.
Lesson learnt: Better be paranoid beforehand like you are because no matter how good it is, it's just not worth it after it's done and dusted.
[QUOTE=DazeUp;2597567]This is some nonsense. I know plenty of young fresh beautiful college girls that have more STDs than I have sperm count in my balls. I have also known pretty conservative girls who made mistakes and ended up dealing with an std all their lives including in marriage. Goes to show some people have no clue what they are talking about. The only thing you're doing is convincing people not to bareback in the bars you may have visited. I hope you go by the name Gilolo because I will be asking girls if it sounds familiar.
As far as Paranoia at Jny, I hear you, better have a little paranoia before than a lot after, like me. I just couldn't resist her. BJ skills that cannot be enjoyed with cover and a bubble but that was calling out my name. Thoroughly enjoyed every second of it knowing I was taking a risk. A few days later something was wrong. Paranoia for days, no sleep but refused to go to the doc for fear of hearing something I couldn't deal with, if it was serious then how would I explain the need to cover up when with my significant other.
The symptoms got worse, pain increased, went to the doc. Long story short it was treatable and I got off easy.
Lesson learnt: Better be paranoid beforehand like you are because no matter how good it is, it's just not worth it after it's done and dusted.[/QUOTE]You are right. Now I can say that I am lucky then because I have never caught anything. But reading you, I do indeed want to put on condoms in the future. The problem is that I disband as soon as I put on a condom.
[QUOTE=Gilolo;2597098]Well, I go for 10 years in Thailand and especially in Pattaya! I always bareback the girls on Soi 6, or Soi Bukhao or everywhere in Pattaya and Bangkok and I've never catch anything! After I' m very difficult on the girls! I love only very sexy girls 18/25 who look clean and in good health. I don't go with all the girls!
I think I fucked bareback about 100 girls in Pattaya and everything is fine![/QUOTE]Because sexually transmitted diseases can be diagnosed by simply looking at a girl.
[QUOTE=ThaiGoodTimes;2596537]To be honest I think the issue in Pattaya isn't so much the girls as the cleanliness of the punters there.
The "tourist" punters visiting there are / were always pushing bareback, and the girls complied..[/QUOTE]I would've thought the same but now I'm almost positive the local expat / long term tourist population is way worse in this regard than the 2 week holidayers. Many of them will fuck anything, be it a 20 yo girl, 50 yo beach road lady, ladbyboy, etc. And almost all of them bareback as much as they can, including anal.
Girls also banging their Thai bfs bb, who are banging other girls etc etc.
[QUOTE=DazeUp;2597567]This is some nonsense. I know plenty of young fresh beautiful college girls that have more STDs than I have sperm count in my balls. I have also known pretty conservative girls who made mistakes and ended up dealing with an std all their lives including in marriage. Goes to show some people have no clue what they are talking about. The only thing you're doing is convincing people not to bareback in the bars you may have visited. I hope you go by the name Gilolo because I will be asking girls if it sounds familiar.
As far as Paranoia at Jny, I hear you, better have a little paranoia before than a lot after, like me. I just couldn't resist her. BJ skills that cannot be enjoyed with cover and a bubble but that was calling out my name. Thoroughly enjoyed every second of it knowing I was taking a risk. A few days later something was wrong. Paranoia for days, no sleep but refused to go to the doc for fear of hearing something I couldn't deal with, if it was serious then how would I explain the need to cover up when with my significant other.
The symptoms got worse, pain increased, went to the doc. Long story short it was treatable and I got off easy.
Lesson learnt: Better be paranoid beforehand like you are because no matter how good it is, it's just not worth it after it's done and dusted.[/QUOTE]And you're clearly from your words talking about your experiences based on western ideas and with western girls.
Come live in Asia and experience reality here, not just visit as a holiday millionaire, having your balls and wallet emptied.
The reality here is that I have yet to know anyone over many years here who has punted and contracted anything. Many holiday punters claim they have, IE chlamydia, when in reality they fucked too much, not cleaning up properly and had a UTI, not an STI. And as to the girls, many of who are longtime friends, I also don't know of one personally, or even anecdotally, who has caught anything, and yes they do get tested. And believe me, Thai girls talk to each other about everything. So if one did have something, and disappeared, the others would know and talk about it.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2597690]Because sexually transmitted diseases can be diagnosed by simply looking at a girl.[/QUOTE]The presence of STD's can be diagnosed if there's visible signs, cold sores etc.
But even when there's not, the risk of STDs being likely can be assessed by looking at a girl and watching her behaviors.
[QUOTE=ThaiGoodTimes;2597706]And you're clearly from your words talking about your experiences based on western ideas and with western girls.
Come live in Asia and experience reality here, not just visit as a holiday millionaire, having your balls and wallet emptied.
The reality here is that I have yet to know anyone over many years here who has punted and contracted anything. Many holiday punters claim they have, IE chlamydia, when in reality they fucked too much, not cleaning up properly and had a UTI, not an STI. And as to the girls, many of who are longtime friends, I also don't know of one personally, or even anecdotally, who has caught anything, and yes they do get tested. And believe me, Thai girls talk to each other about everything. So if one did have something, and disappeared, the others would know and talk about it.[/QUOTE]That has been my experience and observation in Thailand as well. In Bangkok at least.
I have been living here almost 9 years, know a dozen or more fellow punters who jump at the chance to go bareback, get it often and are not shy to share stories about anything and everything. I have hundreds of local hookers in my Line contacts, most of whom go bareback with somebody sometime and only 1 ever complained about getting an STI, which she got from a male model she met and got the hots for at a photo shoot, not a customer.
And for those who believe a Thai girl, hooker or not, wouldn't reveal the fact that they had gotten an STI or STD out of shame or worry about people avoiding them, I heard that same thing about Covid,. Not so. Lol. These girls buy self-testing kits and mass report every false and true positive result complete with selfies of them laying in bed with a compress on their forehead, etc, just like all the other trophy photos of this or that ailment, at the drop of a hat.
If there is anything Thai girls don't keep a secret about it is their litany of real and mostly imagined and faked "illnesses" of any kind at any time.
But, by all means, anyone in doubt should cover up, cap on and wear a condom at all times. I am just relating my personal experience and observation in Bangkok that mirrors that of ThaiGoodTimes.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2470055]LOL.
It's just that she wasn't all that good at any of it. Maybe because her starting point was her claimed "usual" 15,000 baht for ST, CFS or BBBJ+CIM+Spit vs the final above agreement for 7,000 baht. LOL. But I would not have paid her as much for less than the what she agreed to no matter how hot she was.[/QUOTE]At today's exchange rate 15,000 baht is $461 USD. 7,000 baht is $215. I've never heard of any girl even in a Thailand GoGo ask above 4,000 baht. You got those numbers right? Seems very expensive.
I've barebacked in Thailand, USA and Mexico.
Do the BBFS Thai girls use any type of birth control or are they just gambling with pregnancy?
[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2598012]At today's exchange rate 15,000 baht is $461 USD. 7,000 baht is $215. I've never heard of any girl even in a Thailand GoGo ask above 4,000 baht. You got those numbers right? Seems very expensive.[/QUOTE]If I recall correctly, the old Lords Palace soapy massage experience started at about 6,000 baht and went up to about 11,000 baht, the price depended on which girl you selected. That was for a 90-minute session in a spacious beautiful room with very large bathtub and comfortable bed. BBBJ and CFS was included. Some included DFK while others didn't. This, of course, is a different experience than a freelancer or go-go girl in your place.
[QUOTE=Vendelo;2598208]I've barebacked in Thailand, USA and Mexico.
Do the BBFS Thai girls use any type of birth control or are they just gambling with pregnancy?[/QUOTE]BBFS in Mexico is not common, at least not for me, so I can't comment.
BBFS is common in Thailand and I'm assuming many girls are not using any form of birth control. I base this view on the following comments I've had from the girls: (a) I'll get Plan B. (b) Do you promise you've had a vasectomy? (c) If I get pregnant, will you come to hospital with me for abortion? I don't want to do that alone again. (d) I want a mixed Thai-farang baby.
That last comment I’ve heard a couple of times after I’ve explained that I’ve had a vasectomy. I dont understand the attitude of wanting a baby from a customer, though I do understand many Thai girls want a mixed Thai-farang baby because they feel that mix produces a beautiful child.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2598268] I'm assuming many girls are not using any form of birth control.[/QUOTE]FWIW when I have visited WG shared apartments I have sometimes noticed half used BC packs laying around (and a lot of shoes). So obviously some girls use both.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2598268]BBFS in Mexico is not common, at least not for me, so I can't comment.
BBFS is common in Thailand and I'm assuming many girls are not using any form of birth control. I base this view on the following comments I've had from the girls: (a) I'll get Plan B. (b) Do you promise you've had a vasectomy? (c) If I get pregnant, will you come to hospital with me for abortion? I don't want to do that alone again. (d) I want a mixed Thai-farang baby.
That last comment Ive heard a couple of times after Ive explained that Ive had a vasectomy. I dont understand the attitude of wanting a baby from a customer, though I do understand many Thai girls want a mixed Thai-farang baby because they feel that mix produces a beautiful child.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the response. It seems like punters leave it to the girl to determine if she'll get pregnant.
[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2598012]At today's exchange rate 15,000 baht is $461 USD. 7,000 baht is $215. I've never heard of any girl even in a Thailand GoGo ask above 4,000 baht. You got those numbers right? Seems very expensive.[/QUOTE]Visit a few popular Thai Escort sites and you will see plenty of girls listing 7,000+ baht as their Long Time/Overnight rate with 3,000+ baht as their standard 2 hour Short Time rate.
The girl I was referring to in that more than year ago comment about an incident that happened well before that was easily the caliber of the best of the Escorts on those sites in terms of attractiveness in person, sight seen, and not based on photoshopped pics on a website. She was a Freelancer, not working in a go-go bar. I met her online and we met in person at a regular hotel bar. She would have been a top go-go bargirl if she had wanted to do that.
I had met many Bangkok go-go girls during normal times who quoted 5,000 and not budge from 4,000 for Long Time. A Long Time that might not even begin until 1am and, if taken, would end when she left the room no later than 8am the next morning. Add the barfine and a few Ladydrinks and the customer had easily paid 7,000 for a purported "Long Time" with one of those girls. And it might never come close to the kind of Real BB+CIP Sex and Real Blowjob to a Swallow finish I got with that girl between about 10pm and Noon the next day.
I don't see the 7,000 baht I once paid to such a girl for that amount of time and experience out of line with anything going on or reported on this site during normal times.
But, yeah, it was expensive. Not my usual style for sure. That's why I only did such a thing once, out of curiosity. But lots and lots of guys paid that much for less and paid it often back during normal times.
[QUOTE=Vendelo;2598208]I've barebacked in Thailand, USA and Mexico.
Do the BBFS Thai girls use any type of birth control or are they just gambling with pregnancy?[/QUOTE]The few times I have asked Thai freelancers about what kind of birth control they used, if any, a surprising number of them said they got the tiny time -release pellets implanted in their arm. Lasts 6 months or whatever. Kind of surprised me since that form of birth control seemed more invasive than I thought a Thai girl would be willing to do. I asked one girl how much that version costs and she just shrugged and said she didn't remember, not expensive.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2598268]BBFS in Mexico is not common, at least not for me, so I can't comment.
BBFS is common in Thailand and I'm assuming many girls are not using any form of birth control. I base this view on the following comments I've had from the girls: (a) I'll get Plan B. (b) Do you promise you've had a vasectomy? (c) If I get pregnant, will you come to hospital with me for abortion? I don't want to do that alone again. (d) I want a mixed Thai-farang baby.
That last comment Ive heard a couple of times after Ive explained that Ive had a vasectomy. I dont understand the attitude of wanting a baby from a customer, though I do understand many Thai girls want a mixed Thai-farang baby because they feel that mix produces a beautiful child.[/QUOTE]Bargirls having babies with Farangs are very rare. I do know one bargirl who came to Pattaya to have a Farang baby, though.
The ladies, as a rule, fuck waaay too many Thai men instead, and many spit out multiple Thai babies over the years.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2598261]If I recall correctly, the old Lords Palace soapy massage experience started at about 6,000 baht and went up to about 11,000 baht, the price depended on which girl you selected. That was for a 90-minute session in a spacious beautiful room with very large bathtub and comfortable bed. BBBJ and CFS was included. Some included DFK while others didn't. This, of course, is a different experience than a freelancer or go-go girl in your place.[/QUOTE]Maybe you got the tourist price. The Lord was 3800-7000 ish it was even on the little book they would hand you. Some of the mama / papasans did not care for farang and others were quite nice.
Maria near ratchada 17 is the current high end, starts 5000 ish and goes up to 15 k.
[QUOTE=Vendelo;2598208]I've barebacked in Thailand, USA and Mexico.
Do the BBFS Thai girls use any type of birth control or are they just gambling with pregnancy?[/QUOTE]They take the pill, I've talked with many about it and have seen the pill cards. This applies to all the Filipina's as well. With the amount of times I've nutted in these ladies-if they didn't I would have a whole brood of bastard children and that clearly is not the case.
I frequented Crazy House in most of my visits to Bangkok and it was usually 3,000 BHT for short time. Some of that was the car fine. That included BBBJ and CFS. CIM and COF were extra. I was living in Europe at the time, so I was happy to pay it since you'd pay at least twice that for an equally pretty girl there. I also was always able to find a girl who pushed all of my buttons going there, so I was very happy with the whole thing.
But now that I've done more research, I might try to find girls through other means when things open back up. It seems like I can get more for less, and with someone just as pretty if I am willing to hunt around.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2598354]The few times I have asked Thai freelancers about what kind of birth control they used, if any, a surprising number of them said they got the tiny time -release pellets implanted in their arm. Lasts 6 months or whatever. Kind of surprised me since that form of birth control seemed more invasive than I thought a Thai girl would be willing to do. I asked one girl how much that version costs and she just shrugged and said she didn't remember, not expensive.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply.
Always enjoy your posts.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2597987]And for those who believe a Thai girl, hooker or not, wouldn't reveal the fact that they had gotten an STI or STD out of shame or worry about people avoiding them, I heard that same thing about Covid,. Not so. Lol. These girls buy self-testing kits and mass report every false and true positive result complete with selfies of them laying in bed with a compress on their forehead.[/QUOTE]Really ET.
You bareback I don't so perhaps we move in different mongering circles where the girls behave differently.
In my 20 plus years living here all I can say in my experience lots of girls when you get to know them well enough depending on how long they have been in the profession will admit to having had a STD themselves or at least know somebody who has.
They understandably don't readily talk about it and most certainly do not mass report or post selfies of themselves recovering from a STD.
More often than not after their first experience they stop doing bareback.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2598354]The few times I have asked Thai freelancers about what kind of birth control they used, if any, a surprising number of them said they got the tiny time -release pellets implanted in their arm. Lasts 6 months or whatever. Kind of surprised me since that form of birth control seemed more invasive than I thought a Thai girl would be willing to do. I asked one girl how much that version costs and she just shrugged and said she didn't remember, not expensive.[/QUOTE]Totally true what you say! In Pattaya, I fucked few times a girlfriend whose name is Pony. She became a nice girlfriend I love to fuck 1 time each time I go Pattaya. At the beginning I paid her 1500 and now because I like her I give her 2000 and I always fuck her BB and come inside her pussy. And one time I fucked her a second time in the shower, and did another CIP and asked her if she takes pills. And she told me like you, she has a pellet implanted in her arm, and she showed me her arm, I touched the pellet. She told me she can't be pregnant.
[QUOTE=IHeartIpa;2598358]Maybe you got the tourist price. The Lord was 3800-7000 ish it was even on the little book they would hand you. Some of the mama / papasans did not care for farang and others were quite nice.
Maria near ratchada 17 is the current high end, starts 5000 ish and goes up to 15 k.[/QUOTE]Special farang price. 555.
My last visit there was November 2017. The 6,000 to 11,000 prices that I remember were on the printed card that they gave me.
[QUOTE=Gilolo;2598576]she told me like you, she has a pellet implanted in her arm, and she showed me her arm, I touched the pellet. She told me she can't be pregnant.[/QUOTE]It is called Norplant. Very commonly used.
[QUOTE=Franciscass;2598549]Really ET.
You bareback I don't so perhaps we move in different mongering circles where the girls behave differently.
In my 20 plus years living here all I can say in my experience lots of girls when you get to know them well enough depending on how long they have been in the profession will admit to having had a STD themselves or at least know somebody who has.
They understandably don't readily talk about it and most certainly do not mass report or post selfies of themselves recovering from a STD.
More often than not after their first experience they stop doing bareback.[/QUOTE]Well, Franciscass, if your last assessment is true then, as some of us have surmised, the vast, vast majority of Thai P4P girls must not have ever gotten an STI or STD from going bareback because it appears to be the extremely rare one both new to game and veterans who will not agree to go bareback either quite easily and quickly or as long as the customer continues to pester her, push for it, ply her with more alcohol, catch her late enough at night or simply offers her more baht for it.
And I doubt those are all more likely their "first time" to go bareback rather than their 100th+ time to go bareback.
[QUOTE=Gilolo;2598576]Totally true what you say! In Pattaya, I fucked few times a girlfriend whose name is Pony. She became a nice girlfriend I love to fuck 1 time each time I go Pattaya. At the beginning I paid her 1500 and now because I like her I give her 2000 and I always fuck her BB and come inside her pussy. And one time I fucked her a second time in the shower, and did another CIP and asked her if she takes pills. And she told me like you, she has a pellet implanted in her arm, and she showed me her arm, I touched the pellet. She told me she can't be pregnant.[/QUOTE]There's a few brands of implants used in Thailand.
Some observations of mine about them and their use.
- you're unlikely / less likely to find younger Thai girls using them.
As they make it significantly more difficult to get pregnant later on if you've used them a lot.
And most Thai girls want to have children, so they don't care too much about getting pregnant (especially Isaan girls).
- from mid 20's onwards most working girls will be using implants.
Even newbies to the scene will be using them, or trying them, especially if they already have kids.
One reason for this is financial, in that for most of them it stops their period all together.
And who wouldn't want to increase their available workable days from 25 to 30 a month.
20% more workdays equals 20% more income opportunities.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2598732]Well, Franciscass, if your last assessment is true then, as some of us have surmised, the vast, vast majority of Thai P4P girls must not have ever gotten an STI or STD from going bareback because it appears to be the extremely rare one both new to game and veterans who will not agree to go bareback either quite easily and quickly or as long as the customer continues to pester her, push for it, ply her with more alcohol, catch her late enough at night or simply offers her more baht for it.
And I doubt those are all more likely their "first time" to go bareback rather than their 100th+ time to go bareback.[/QUOTE]Perhaps I'm just lucky I can enjoy sex without taking unnecessary health risks consequently I'm not familiar with the ease of getting a girl to either readily or with some effort to go bareback.
Seems ET you negotiate BB before going to the room so you would be unfamiliar with what the norm is without this requisite already agreed.
I can only say that in my experience a condom is introduced even occasionally for the BJ (a no no for me) but almost always for the boom boom.
I don't know how easy it is to get her to change her mind. Perhaps as you suggest plying her with alcohol, pushing her, pestering her, offering her more baht alongside the lateness of the hour easily and quickly changes her mind.
Perhaps I should check it out just to see what happens.
Who knows I might get a "oh thank you so much, I no like condom, love you fuck me and finish in my pussy".
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2598732]Well, Franciscass, if your last assessment is true then, as some of us have surmised, the vast, vast majority of Thai P4P girls must not have ever gotten an STI or STD from going bareback because it appears to be the extremely rare one both new to game and veterans who will not agree to go bareback either quite easily and quickly or as long as the customer continues to pester her, push for it, ply her with more alcohol, catch her late enough at night or simply offers her more baht for it.
And I doubt those are all more likely their "first time" to go bareback rather than their 100th+ time to go bareback.[/QUOTE]Well I think girls in Pattaya do what the customer wants. I heard many girls who told me they never bareback or bareback only with me! LOL.
Nowadays, girls in Pattaya accept very easily to fuck bareback! You even don't need to ask sometimes! And when they ask you to put a condom, they just wait you propose them more money to fuck bareback!
Like I said it many times, for 500 or 1000 bahts more girls accept bareback. I always bareback in Bangkok and Pattaya and I never caught anything!
Maybe because I choose very good looking girls who take care of the themselves!
Even now, I'm not in Thailand because of the pandemia, and I speak with many girls who are on Facebook or Insta, and some new girls who do sex shows for me by cam against 500 or 1000 bahts and who are waiting I come see them. And I speak directly with them, I want fuck them bareback and they all accept it! Just some girls don't want I come inside their pussy. Many girls are scared only about that! But take off the condom or fucking bareback they all allowed nowadays and it's good!
However, all men are free to do as they please!
Some men will wear condoms all the time and some never will! They are free to do as they want as long as the women agree!
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But now that I've done more research, I might try to find girls through other means when things open back up. It seems like I can get more for less, and with someone just as pretty if I am willing to hunt around.[/QUOTE]Welcome to the real world.
[QUOTE=Franciscass;2598782]….I can only say that in my experience a condom is introduced even occasionally for the BJ (a no no for me) but almost always for the boom boom….. [/QUOTE]Similar for me on first session with a particular girl. Second session the condom is far less likely to appear. I have very few 3rd sessions, none when the condom appeared during the second session.
I'm too old to finish a second time per day when using condom. If I have a second session in a day, I arrange it to be BBFS CIP.
[QUOTE=Franciscass;2598782]Perhaps I'm just lucky I can enjoy sex without taking unnecessary health risks consequently I'm not familiar with the ease of getting a girl to either readily or with some effort to go bareback.
Seems ET you negotiate BB before going to the room so you would be unfamiliar with what the norm is without this requisite already agreed.
I can only say that in my experience a condom is introduced even occasionally for the BJ (a no no for me) but almost always for the boom boom.
I don't know how easy it is to get her to change her mind. Perhaps as you suggest plying her with alcohol, pushing her, pestering her, offering her more baht alongside the lateness of the hour easily and quickly changes her mind.
Perhaps I should check it out just to see what happens.
Who knows I might get a "oh thank you so much, I no like condom, love you fuck me and finish in my pussy".[/QUOTE]Yes, I think you and other men who can still enjoy sex wearing a condom are lucky, particularly in a P4P environment where many of the better looking girls still make a relatively big deal about "must wear condom for sex."
I have certainly had many girls tell me something on the order of, "I want/like you to cum in my pussy." But I don't recall many, maybe 2-3 times out of hundreds, when a Thai girl said something like, "thank you, I don't like condom." Although, like you, I think I have read a few reports here where some exchange like that was described.
On the health risk issue, I wonder if you or anyone else has had a Thai P4P girl mention a specific kind of risk, STI or STD other than a worry about getting pregnant or getting HIV as her reason for wanting or insisting that you wear a condom.
I have not. I have heard, "don't want baby." I have been told the, "I am scared", "must be safe" kind of thing and any number of references to their fear of getting HIV. But I don't recall any Thai bargirl or FL ever pushing back on going bareback because she was "scared of getting" gonorrhea, syphilis, chlamydia, herpes or any other widely known STI or STD either for the first time or "again."
It is as though they have neither experienced nor had so much as a scary conversation about any of those specific ailments with a co-worker, friend or family member.
Is that a telling bit of empirical evidence that neither they nor anyone in their close circle have experienced symptoms of or been diagnosed with and treated for any of those ailments? Maybe.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2599007]It is as though they have neither experienced nor had so much as a scary conversation about any of those specific ailments with a co-worker, friend or family member.
Is that a telling bit of empirical evidence that neither they nor anyone in their close circle have experienced symptoms of or been diagnosed with and treated for any of those ailments? Maybe.[/QUOTE]Who knows ET?
Women generally and Thai women in particular have always confounded me. Describing them as a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma is a simplification.
What they talk about, what they know about sexually transmitted infections and whether the possibility of being infected weighs on their decision to allow customers to go bareback won't affect either of us.
We'll continue on our merry way, you'll continue bare backing while I'll continue being more cautious and no doubt along that merry way we will continue to find differences to chat about.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2599007]Yes, I think you and other men who can still enjoy sex wearing a condom are lucky, particularly in a P4P environment where many of the better looking girls still make a relatively big deal about "must wear condom for sex."
I have certainly had many girls tell me something on the order of, "I want/like you to cum in my pussy." But I don't recall many, maybe 2-3 times out of hundreds, when a Thai girl said something like, "thank you, I don't like condom." Although, like you, I think I have read a few reports here where some exchange like that was described.
On the health risk issue, I wonder if you or anyone else has had a Thai P4P girl mention a specific kind of risk, STI or STD other than a worry about getting pregnant or getting HIV as her reason for wanting or insisting that you wear a condom.
I have not. I have heard, "don't want baby." I have been told the, "I am scared", "must be safe" kind of thing and any number of references to their fear of getting HIV. But I don't recall any Thai bargirl or FL ever pushing back on going bareback because she was "scared of getting" gonorrhea, syphilis, chlamydia, herpes or any other widely known STI or STD either for the first time or "again."
It is as though they have neither experienced nor had so much as a scary conversation about any of those specific ailments with a co-worker, friend or family member.
Is that a telling bit of empirical evidence that neither they nor anyone in their close circle have experienced symptoms of or been diagnosed with and treated for any of those ailments? Maybe.[/QUOTE]I totally agree with you. Anyway even if I know it s more safety to use condoms, I can't do it when I see 2 beauties like these. Only if the girls want I use a condom then I'll do it! But like I said it many times, I'm very careful on the girl I choose.
[QUOTE=Gulfcruise;2360873]Off-late, Someone asked about Khunrose Russian escorts.
I'm well experienced with Russian / Uzbek escorts in BKK, all the enquiry for Russian escorts are finally routed to 2 mamasans in BKK and they outsource it. For sure you will not get what you see, Mostly they would send Uzbek in the name of Russian and charge upto 8000 bt-10000-bt for 1 HR and 20 Kbt-25 kbt for full night.
The same asset can be picked up in Mixx / Insanity / Shock even Grace for 6 K for full night.
I know the one of the main mamasan from the last 10 yrs, if anyone interested would share the digits.[/QUOTE]Hello Gulf Cruise,
Would you be so kind to share the contact for the Russian and Uzb? Thanks in advance mate.
[URL]https://youtu.be/kvIbzXodWhc[/URL]
Very nice. I like these older Milfy Russian types. I assume this was filmed in Bangkok?
[QUOTE=Wanking;2757497][URL]https://youtu.be/kvIbzXodWhc[/URL]
Very nice. I like these older Milfy Russian types. I assume this was filmed in Bangkok?[/QUOTE]Pier of of Walking Street in Pattaya.
Any new recent report on Thai Clubs.