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[QUOTE=DrFuchs; 1288528]Anyway, I chilled out at the bar for a short while waiting for someone to catch my fancy when I noticed in one of the mirrors the most enormous, porn star style rack I've ever seen in the flesh. I like a nice set of tits but am not obssesed by size. Still I was intrigued so went over to have a good look at the owner of these fine specimens. Turned out she was a very attractive German lady called Jenna. Touch of class about her. She doesn't pester anyone, just sits invitingly at the bar showing off her considerable assets. After a brief chat we agreed to go to one of the rooms upstairs.
Never again will I waste money on escorts, instead I'm going to save my hard earned euros for some regular visits to Berlin and Artemis.
If you haven't been to Artemis you haven't lived my friends, you haven't lived!
All the best.
Dr Fuchs[/QUOTE]Thanks for a great report.
I'm glad you appreciated Jenna the way she deserves it. At first glance I thought she looked a little cold out. But up in the room, she was wonderfully pleasant.
It just shows that sometimes you have to take a chance!
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I stay in Artemis last week. Many girl, good level.
I have tried with a Polish, a Dutch and a Iranian girl.
Sorry for the names but I don't remember them.
Avoid absolutely Iranian girl, bad service, no partecipation, no fk.
Polish girl (sorry but there are many Polish girl) middle level service.
Dutch girl, the best one of the three, very GFE service.
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Finally
Great to have this in the fkk section. Haven't been there since pre football times but would love some fresh reports.
WBR,
U
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Artemis February 07
I was at Artemis the same days of the week and about the same time I was at Palace in Frankfurt in December.
FRIDAY february 9th 15.00-20.00
SUNDAY 11th February 12.00-15.00, about 10 girls when I arrived
Some considerations about Artemis also compared to Palace (my only 2 FKK experiences so far):
Artemis is also easy by public transportation. At Westkreuz s-bahn, just go left from the exit (Halenseestraße) and in 2 minutes you are there.
The entry fee is high (70 eur) but now it is less than Palace (75). The session with a girl is 60 and not 50 though (that meant collecting a bunch of 10 euros before going to Artemis). The woman at the receptionist said it included sex and blowjob, the rest had to be discussed with the single girl.
The “public areas” (not the rooms) in Artemis are on 2 floors (someone has already described it well, but I actually prefer to explore the place). I must say the area in the lower floor seems like a homosexual community, above all on Friday night. It seemed where all the guys went when they had to recover.
At Artemis the girls approach you but not with the same aggressiviness they do at Palace. Not remarkable couch action.
They are naked here as well.
The Kino action can’t compare to Palace. Anyway my favorite way to get caught by a girl at Artemis was to go to the kino on the lower floor and wait for an “angel” to appear.
I think there is less variety as far as nationality of the girls is concerned. There are a LOT of girls from Poland. That’s easy understandable since Poland is near Berlin.
One of the polish group sits on the couch beside the entrance of the room on the lower floor with the pool and a bar. You can see them from the floor above (the stairs lead to them). A view of beautiful girls from above you don’t have at Palace.
Actually out of my 6 sessions, 5 were with polish girls (I repeated one).
I really had the sensation Artemis was less of a “minefield” (like someone here on the forums wrote) than Palace: a better average service by the girls at Artemis.
All the girls I went with provided DATY, BBBJ and KISS (someone less deep but still nice), except one that didn’t seem to allow kissing (but I didn’t actually try, it was a sensation, she was so good with my dick that I didn’t go for the kiss) and she didn’t also allow me touching her pussy with my fingers, but for all the rest she was good.
The fact is that after the first 2 “complete” services I didn’t ask anymore the girls what they offered.
All these girls spoke english (some of them very good english) and it is good for me since I know like 10 words in german.
My recommendation is anyway the only not polish girl I went with and luckily it was my last session. It was Sylvana from Kazakistan, almost 22 she said. Short (dyed) blonde hair, cute face (her face resembles Sylvia Saint’s, if you know her :-), but cuter), big natural boobs (I just loved them!), great smiling and very good attitude. Very good english.
I approached her by the pool and I asked her to come with me 2 minutes to the kino. I started french kissing her there and after a bit of touching I asked her to go to the room.
I have to say I preferred both Palace and Artemis on Sunday, when it was less crowed, a better girls-guys ratio and maybe the girls more relaxed.
I’ll be back
Buck
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Thanks for the up to date info Buck. Do you happen to know how much extras are? If the session is €60 are extras the same?
Thanks
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[QUOTE=Warsteiner]Thanks for the up to date info Buck. Do you happen to know how much extras are? If the session is €60 are extras the same?
Thanks[/QUOTE]Sorry, I don't know, I didn't ask for extras (just regular sessions of 60 eur)and actually the girls didn't offer any by themselves. In fact I preferred this way (the customer asks if he wants), on the contrary at Palace 2 girls asked if I wanted some extras.
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Artemis
Personally I think the prices at Artemis are not worth the candle wax. The entry fee is over the top as is the asking price for a half hour coupling of the wagons. Berlin in general has a poor reputation when it comes to quality and price. That is the trouble with capital cities, they tend to be a rip-off. Also Berlin is overrun with Polish and Russian mafia types forcing girls into the sex trade. Look how close it is to the border for one. Easy escape route if you get to feel the heat from the cops.
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[QUOTE=Marlow]Also Berlin is overrun with Polish and Russian mafia types forcing girls into the sex trade.[/QUOTE]
Don't forget the Turkish mafia. When I weas living in Berlin a few years ago (before Artemis) the clubs were controlled by either the Russian or turkish mafia.
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Great time in Berlin!
A Trevellyn was right: Berlin is a beautiful city, full of space, monuments, museums, bars and stores, opera houses ans theatres, sights and atmosphere... Enough to satisfy the cultured tourist looking for intellectual pleasures. And when this tourist also longs for more below-the-belt pleasures, he will not be disappointed...
1) Artemis
Travelling on a reasonable budget and wanting to make the most of it, I had planned to visit Artemis once only (was in Berlin for to days). What an experience if you have never been to an FKK before!
This is how it goes: you arrive in front of a big, modern building in west Charlottenburg (very near the S-Bahn station, as already pointed out by Buck Rogers (02-18-07, FKK club directory). The lady at the entrance desk welcomes you with a hearty smile and produces the explanation sheet in your language. You pay €70 and she gives you a key on a wrist bracelet, and tells you where to go and undress. You put your valuables in a small, video-monitored locker, and put your clothes in another one, then go out in a yellow bathing robe.
The club is on three storeys.
Basement : large Jacuzzi pool, a hammam, a bio sauna, a normal sauna, a bar, seats and couches, a cinema room.
Ground floor: the changing rooms, the lounge and bar, another cinema room and the couches and seats.
Top floor: bedrooms.
Oh, I have not mentioned the girls. Imagine day-dreaming! These beauties (most of them east-European, from their conversations and accents) walk around, as if looking after their own business (although they are looking for yours), in the skimpiest outfits.. Enough to make your head spin and spin…
I was quickly approached by a few of these ladies, but managed to keep my time and make my own pick : a young Hungarian petite blonde that goes by the name of Maïna (I think). Covered blow job, massage, mish, this was all I had come for, and enjoyed it thoroughly. €60 in all, payable afterwards (you go to the locker with the beauty and pay her there).
After a good hour of sauna, hammam and fruit juice, I felt fit enough for another round. I selected a small, brown-haired, pretty, pale-skinned girl, Anya, that turned out to be Ukranian. BBJ and DATY this time, for €60 too. The works!
In all, €190. Not cheap, but worth trying at least once, just to tell your grandchildren some day… And so much cheaper than just one escort in your hotel room.
2) Moechtegern. [url]www.moechtegern.com/[/url]
Following the wise advice of Iseeu (see in the previous posts), I visited a “Pärchen Club” (or swingerclub). I am used to visiting such places in France, but it was my first experience in Germany. As I only speak a little German, I was a little bit worried about my possible success there. It turned out, as pointed out by Iseeu, that the atmosphere in German swingerclubs is much more relaxed than in French ones, and that people are more open and direct. It also turned out that the single men / couples ratio is much lower than in France, which allows for more opportunities. Moechtegern is located in the Charlottenburg district, it is a small club with a few tables, a bar, a cellar with two rooms, a few black rooms, a mezzanine room with sofas. On the Friday evening there were about 15 couples (maybe only 5 single men at most), and over 20 couples on the Saturday evening (5 single men too). I easily started a conversation wit ha single guy, then with a few couples, and spent two great nights, doing whatever people can do in such places when they feel like making the most of it. I do recommend the place where I went twice as it was not far away from my hotel.
3) Sex Kino.
The next day, in the afternoon, I tried a “Sexkino” in Kantstrasse (same district). Very laid back atmosphere, not so pretty, and much fewer girls as in Artemis, as you can imagine, but OK for a quickie (covered BJ) in the small cinema room, for €40. I could have paid less, but as I am not good at discussing prices, I left it at that.
Fly to Berlin and enjoy yourselves, guys!
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Great report. could you tell us more about the available line-up nowadays in Artemis, how many girls did you count?
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[QUOTE=Frenchie]Covered blow job, massage, mish, this was all I had come for, and enjoyed it thoroughly. [/QUOTE]
Does this mean that BBBJ is not offered by all of the girls at this club?
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Warsteiner
Indeed, it is not. You have to be careful to ask. Same with kissing. My experience is that the majority do, but just don't assume it.
I disagree somewhat with Marlow on the prices. They are, admittedly, higher than most (but not all - see Palace), but the facilities are truly good, and impeccably maintained. That costs. Plus there is the capital city premium. But compare London, Paris, Vienna now...
And as Frenchie confirmed, there are plenty of real good lookers. Artemis will undoubtedly succeed long term with this concept in my opinion.
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[QUOTE=Marlow]Berlin in general has a poor reputation when it comes to quality and price.[/QUOTE]
I wonder where this supposed poor reputation comes from. I was in Berlin last August. In general, and you can see it from other reports in the general Berlin forum, Berlin has many nice salons with very good services. I visited Kamilla la Dee, Van Kampen, Royal, Liberty and a few more, and was in general happy with the services. But we're getting off-topic, as this is the Artemis forum.
I've been to Artemis twice. Routard, there were about 30-40 girls on my first visit (Wednesday afternoon) and over 50 on the second (Friday evening). Quality on par with Oase and Palace (in fact, I met a couple of former Oase/Palace girls), better than World (but I've always been unlucky with World and haven't been back there for 2 years now). And if you want to compare with our recent trip, it's on par with Golden Time, better than Yin Yang and Living Room.
But as you know, girls come and go. You can never tell.
Jim
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Answers to your questions, guys
The line-up, when I was there (Friday night two weeks ago) was about thirty-forty girls, most of them stunners.
As mentioned in my post, I only had the time and energy (not mentioning the means) to enjoy the company of two girls, so I can't tell about BBJ not being the norm.
I can only recommend the whole place if you travel to Berlin, just to wind out and enjoy the sight and skin of pretty birds...
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Visit Report
Went on a Friday early afternoon. I was impressed. All very clean, professional and actually well laid out. Individual lockers are available, large shower rooms and bathrobes.
Entered the bar first, same level as entry/shower area. Got approached by Russian girl, within 5 minutes ended up in the 'Kino' (cinema) - lounge style hang out place, with loads of cushions. After some chit chat excellent BBBJ, then proceed to a more discreet area and screwed her nicely.
Proceeded to explore the place. Basement has a very nice pool, sauna area. Wished I would have discovered this first. Had a few non alcoholic drinks, a sauna and ran into second girl, Russian again. Back again into the 'Kino', this time the one in the basement. Again excellent BBBJ, with abt three other guys watching at this point and the place filling up. This one, a very naughty one she was, is riding me with moaning now coming from everywhere. More couples now and she encourages me do to her doggy style. Do I care, so I comply and finish off in great style in front of a full house. Wicked..but hey.
Damage EURO 70 entry fee plus 2 x EURO 60 for girls. Only can recommend this. Clean, professional nice girls and overall relaxed atmosphere.
If I would live in Berlin, this would be my regular weekend getaway. Ten out of ten.
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My wild week in Berlin
[i first posted this in another forum, but didn't notice here was a special one for artemis. sorry! )
hold on to your hats folks, here comes my long report from my trip to berlin. since this is my very first report in this forum, please bare with me and don't put me into the town pillory if i drop a brick or two. i'm not even really sure if this is the right forum to post the report in (i hope the moderator will move the post if it is not). a hick unfortunate enough to live in the domains of the most puritan state in europe. sweden is very tough on alcohol, prostitution, nudity and sex; funny enough some swedish school students who visited a brothel in germany the very same week became the biggest headline in swedens largest newspaper: [url]http://www.aqurette.com/archive/0704/0704110659.shtml[/url]. becomes when he is on his own for a week in berlin, like a kid in a candy store. and what a week i had!
among the adult entertainment places, artemis and la folie was on the top of my to do list. my only earlier experiences of fkk-clubs was one visit at artemis in september last year and at atmos in hamburg this year, and the fkk-environment is really a challenge for a shy scandinavian. my primary goals was modest:
1. to not forget the bath shoes, brake the key ring or walk in to glass doors (like i did the last time).
2. try to get used to the fkk concept, where i feel as alien as a nudist in saudi arabia, and find out how things work.
day 1: artemis.
[url]http://www.fkk-artemis.de[/url]
it didn't start too good. in contrast to my first visit to artemis in september, the girls was very aggressive. on that time, there wasn't one girl who tried to contact me, which really isn't very strange since i look like the result of many years of carefully inbreeding. but this time, i didn't even got to look around at the place before a felt someone fondling me. i turned around and found out that it was a great looking blonde. but i wanted to check out the other choices i had, so i tried to ignore her. but she didn't want to let me go, she put her arms around me and asked if i didn't want to go upstairs with her. she was very hard to resist, and when i put my foot at a brothel, because of the nervousness, i couldn't pour water out of a boot with instructions on the heel. and plus, i had. to avoid earlier problems with fanny fright, also taken an ehh. certain sex pill, that gave me headache. so it ended upstairs.
i don't remember her name but she was very young, came from lithuania. told me she had worked at the place for only seven days, and was only going to work a few more and then go back to her home country again. anyway it was very gfe, wiht thoung kissing and all. and the pills seemed to work!
after we had the horizontal rumble, i got some food in the restaurant. then i was going to check out the girls at the place, but i didn't even had the chance to walk the few meters from the restaurant to the bar, until a gorgeus brunette asked me if i wanted to go upstairs for some sucking and fucking. but no, i had got mud for my turtle only few minutes ago. only 15 seconds later two great looking blondes ask if i want to go up with them, but no, i was going to the bar. and when i finally sit in the bar, suddenly a serbian blonde comes and put her arms around me. she asked what i thought of her fish net (it was the only thing she had on). i know the unwritten rule is, that if you start pawing the girls or necking, you have accepted to have sex with her later. but what if the girl is pawing me! ? soon she had her hand inside my bath robe and started jacking me off. heeelp! and now, was there any 10 at artemis that night? i have no idea, becaus all the 7-8-9's was on me like flies on a fresh horse turd. total disaster. : (
day 2: la folie.
[url]http://www.la-folie.de[/url]
next day, at the thursday around eight o'clock at the evening, i went to the other fkk club in berlin, la folie. i new before, that the place was around 40 times smaller than artemis, so it didn't come as a surprise. but arrgh! the guests didn't get a bath robe, but only the worlds smallest towel, that you can't put around your waist, but only was ment to sit on. i'm a shy scandinavian, and my pale ass is really not intended to be on display. i'm so ugly that if i went to a haunted house, i would propably come out with an application. there was only around 6-8 girls at the place, most of them not very new. now i can understand better, why the alcohol is dramatically cheaper at la folie. first after 10 beers the selection is in the same league as artemis. i knew, that prostitution is the worlds oldest institution. but i hadn't expected to meet some of its founders at la folie.
when i sat down in the bar one of them came to me and wanted to talk, and with the last experience in the bar at artemis fresh in my mind, i was almost close to cry like a baby and yell for mommy, but i managed to hold my composure, and studdered something like "i. i. i. don't speak. english. " luckily, she walked away. whew! i only saw one young girl at the place, a brunette with a very hot body but plain face. i considered if i was going to leave the place or pick her, when suddenly a young blonde with a very beautiful face, but pretty ordinary body, came in civilian clothes to work (the girls at la folie checks in at the bar). she then came and sat down at the bar next to me, and soon started a conversation with me. she called herself christine, claimed she was 23 years old and came from novosibirsk in sibiria. when i asked her how long she have worked at la folie, she answered a little embarrased: for only two weeks. she worked as a nurse in berlin, she claimed. i chose her, and we agreed upon 30 minutes (apparently, you have to tell the bartender how long time you want to be with the girl at la folie). it became one of the strangest experiences i've had with a proffessional (or ehh. whatever.) girl. she asked me if she could give me massage. so we started with that. then she asked if i wanted her to give me french, and didn't even try to put the party-hat on, but asked me to do it myself. after a very short blow-job, there was some kissing, she bit me in the nipples and so on. there didn't seem to lack engagement. she purred like a cat when i carressed her neck and told me several times with enthusiasm and the worlds biggest smile "this is so ohh! ", i even got a compliment for my eyes, which was ehh. very friendly of her. and i waited in usual order to proceed to the danish. when she suddenly asked if i could give her massage? i have never given any massage before, but as i said, i have room temperature-iq when i am at a brothel, so i did it after my best ability. but before she even got her panties off, she told me that there was only five minutes left, and asked if i wanted to extend. i thought it would have been irritating not to even have done some horizontal folk-dancing with her, so ok. she told me she always have to tell them when the customer want to extend, so she ran out of the room and a few seconds she came back. she gave a new very quick blow jobs, bit the nipples and then laid down and wanted me to caress her. i finally had to ask her to remove her panties, but when she did, she laid down by the side of me. finally we got going with the danish, and she didn't seem to lack enthusiasm. she was pretty loud and everything. i just can't understand why she kept the panties on most of the time, only wanted to be caressed and why it seemed so hard to proceed to the danish. but afterwards something happened that i have pretty bad conscious for: at la folie you always pay first when you check out. and to my surprise the bartender only charged me for a half an hour, when i had been with the girl longer. and i was to embarassed to stand there and tell in the open so the other guests and girls could hear it, that i had been with the girl for two half hours. it's a fly in the ointment, because i don't want to be dishonest end cheat someone for money.
day 3: artemis.
next night i took to van kampen ([url]http://www.vankampenberlin.de[/url]). only four girls available. no one in the same league as the better looking girls at artemis. so i left, and sat my course towards westkreuz and halenseestraße.
the girls was also very aggressive this evening, but now i was prepaired.
and at least i had the chance to check out the selection. but there was no 10 in sight: (i sat next to a chinese guy in the bar, who was put on the defensive just as much as me against the girls trying to get him up to a room. when a girl finally managed to persuade him, all the girls at the bar applauded. the chinese guy responded by lifting his arms in the air and doing a little victory dance.
when a polish blonde girl also got me up to a room to play hide the hamster, the girls applauded again.
the belly ride was nothing to write home about, but it should perhaps be pointed out, that french without wiener wrap seems to be standard at artemis and that she did something that is a little bit controversial (however i don't now how vexed the issue is at this forum): she took cupid's toothpaste in her mouth.
but before anyone start to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] in my mailbox, i wish to underline, that when i visit these institutions, due to nervousness, i always have a kangaroo loose in the upper paddock.
this handicap also brought me a very bad expercience. i had as always taken the blue pill, and it had apparently worked every time. did i tell you by the way, that i had headache?. until i suddenly was with a german blonde girl. she sucked it hard again and again, but everytime i put mr wigley in her, the little bastard just died. and the girl became really pissed off! i was only shocked, stunned and speechless due to the fact that there, despite i had taken that blue pill, again was missing bits for a vacuum pump, so i didn't react at all on her many rude and insolent answers like "you really don't speak the best english in the world, just uh-uh-uh" etc. but afterwards it makes me pretty sad and angry, because despite that i probably have a personality like a snail on valium when i am at a brothel, i always treat the girl with respect. and i expect her to treat me with the same respect. and when a customer pays a lot of money for the time he spends with the girl, at least he shouldn't have to be insulted and humiliated by the girl? i have been with around 80 ladies of the evening and never met a girl that has been hostile to me before. unfortunately, i can't remember her name. but if you see a tall blonde girl from cologne with tattoos and bolt-ons at artemis, avoid her like an angry skunk.
day 4: artemis (again).
what a shitty ride my attempt at getting used to the fkk environment in berlin had been until this.
and it was going to continue when i the next night met a friend from the danish forum [url]www.venuslogen.dk[/url] at artemis.
there wasn't any 10 this night either. despite it was saturday where it is supposed to be the best selection.
when me and my friend sat down in a couch down at the bar by the pool, there came two girls, and they did something pretty cunning. a brazilian girl, who my friend already had been upstairs with, sat down in the couch between me and my friend, while her colombian friend led my friends attention away. the brazilian girl called pamela, leant over my lap and asked me to rub her back. and what the hell do you do?
she immediately started moaning and hey presto! she all off a sudden stopped her hands inside my bath robe and started giving me a hand gig in public. oh crap! it really isn't easy to be a shy scandinavian at fkk.
it was obviously planned, and because she practically lay down over my lap, there wasn't much possibility to flee (at the same time you don't want to offend the girls). i said no at least five times, but she was very persistent, and as i said, at a brothel my mind reach escape velocity and achieves orbit, so she got me up to a room. fuck how stupid am i!
my friend was very happy with her, but when i was with this girl, she always made really lousy comments like "amore! ", "my love! " etc. and despite the fact that i couldn't get turned on by her, there was no problem with little elvis at this time. when i had finished grumping after that experience, i talked to my friend among other things sex with two girls. i had played the national indoor sport with two girls in prague at k5, and it wasn't very good, i wouldn't try that again, not my cup of tea. and. suddenly two very young blondes comes by. i didn't hesitate a second to go up with them for a ride.
i am very weak for super-young blondes. both came from poland and they always ran around at the place like they were inseparable. especially the "younger" girl. she claimed she was 20, but looked younger. was imho very good looking and really had a look that said jailbait, and if it wasn't for the two front teeth that was a little too apparent she would be close to a 10 on my scale. and those two front teeth i really became painfully acquainted with. she had a pretty poor sucking technique (ouch! ). otherwise there wasn't anything to complaint over, and especially her one year older friend (who btw was the only one who could speak english) were very enthusiastic, but my earlier problems with the twiddle-diddler made it not so fun anymore, and i had very hard to reach climax.
since i was not totally sober when me and my friend finished off the night at das klo ([url]http://www.klo. de[/url]), i had a bad hang over the next day and had to drop my plans for the next day, but despite that, i went to artemis anyway.
day 5: artemis (one more time).
several girls pointed out, that i looked very down in the mouth. i drank a lot of coffee in the bar to revive. a good looking blonde, sabina from poland, (24 years old she claimed) came and talked to me. she had one of the earlier days treated me on chocolates, she sat for some reason with a whole big box at the bar, but it was apparently been eaten up this night. she appeared to be unusually social, and my danish friend who is a little older and wiser than me had talked a lot the other night about the importance of building an athmosphere of trust and sympathy, and that is probably true. anyway this girl gave me the best sex i've had with a night-bird, if not the best sex ever. i almost couldn't stand on my feet afterwards. and fortunately, the blue pill worked, but i had hard to get my gun off, and it took some work from sabina. it ended with her getting happy juice both in her mouth and face. but before anyone want to lynch me, i want to point out that it was i desperation it became that way.
after this night i felt that i finally had grown into the fkk-costume, and after the experience with sabina i had acquired the taste. so it became one final visist to artemis the next night.
day 6 artemis (yikes! )
i almost became worthy of getting my photo on the wall by the reception with the text "this weeks regular customer".
but there was no 10 as long as my eyes could reach this night either. ran into my friend again who couldn't keep away from this pace either, and we sat down in a couch to watch gogo dancers. soon two bulgarian girls came to us, and the "older" (maybe around 25? ) sat down carefully at the back of the couch behind my friend, while the younger brunette sat down right into my lap. she was very good looking, and it was fortunate that i had crossed my legs before she sat upon me, because she was a stubborn devil and she made so it became flag day in the bath robe. but i was hard and firm (in its double sense). i had checked out another girl, a very young brunette, who had eaten at the same table as me in the restaurant both this and the other day. i catched her when i saw her down at the pool. she was pretty bad at english, but claimed she was 20 years old, came from budapest and called herself an "amateur". the horizontal jitterbug wasn't very remembable (but fortunately there was no problems with the leather cigar), however funny enough she afterwards wanted to stay in bed, smoked a cigarett with me and talked for a long time, despite the fact that we almost couldn't understand each other at all. almost all the other girls just wanted to go down to the bar immediately as soon as the sex was over. strange enough the rule at artemis seems to be that even if you pay for 30 minutes, it is only until you get orgasm?
i was very happy for the little fitness room and the more calm, quiet and relaxed bar down at the pool, were i spent most of my time between the rides. i was also happy that there weren't any film cameras when i came out for a little embarrasing episode where a brazilian girl asked me to sit by her in the bar. and what the hell do you answer? i carefully climbed up on the high bar stool, nervous like a pig at the slaughterbench. and of course, she immediately started to neck me, and tried to put her hands inside my bath robe. i repeatedly said "nonononononono". and this time i stood firm.
i didn't see more of my friend for the rest of the night, but i'm sure he had his hands full.
i also got to hit the kitten one more time before i went home and back to the grey everyday life in scandinavia. in the big bar a blonde girl came and asked me politely if she could sit down next to me. i had checked her out before, because she had imho that kind of model face you can see at the catwalk or in magazines like vogue, but she wasn't among my priorities because i thought she had a look that perhaps seemed cold. but she appeared to be very warm, social and nice. she also came from poland and was a friend to sabina, the girl who gave me the ride of my life. they sat down together at the bar before she came to me, and she made exactly the same approach as sabina with a quiet and "intelligent" conversation where i could "feel her pulse". all the other girls just wanted to go upstairs immediately.
the hop in the saddle was nothing special (but thank god, there was no problems with the wigga-wagga this time either). she also had a cold, and told me she had been on antibiotics for a week.
in all: there perhaps was too close between the bad experiences and too long between the good ones, and i burned a lot of more money than i originally had planned, but i am happy for the experiences from the for us scandinavians exotic fkk-environment. the most lasting memories is probably the girl from cologne (shudder! ) and christine from la folie (in a special weird way) and of course sabina!
as i said: what an eastern!
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Nyanhare
Well, that was a tremendous report. Thanks for that. Self-deprecating, honest, funny, and with some truly memorable expressions (kangaroos in paddocks???!). Good to have some more stuff on La Folie too.
The following: I know you are the more reticent type and language may be a barrier, but there is no reason for anyone to be insulted. A calm complaint (with the name of the girl of course) at the front desk (in my experience at Artemis very friendly and helpful) would have brought results. It helps us all.
Secondly, you are NOT committed if you paw, fondle, even kiss the girl. Even less if she does it to you. The rule of thumb is: you are committed once she gets "Little Elvis" in her mouth.
I do not put contributions on the Reports of Distinction thread which do not contain the names of the girls. Much appreciated, however, for the style, and maybe another member will not be so miserably strict.
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[QUOTE=Toscana]The following: I know you are the more reticent type and language may be a barrier, but there is no reason for anyone to be insulted. A calm complaint (with the name of the girl of course) at the front desk (in my experience at Artemis very friendly and helpful) would have brought results. It helps us all.
Secondly, you are NOT committed if you paw, fondle, even kiss the girl. Even less if she does it to you. The rule of thumb is: you are committed once she gets "Little Elvis" in her mouth.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your nice response to my report :) I can only concur that the ladies at the front desk is nice and helpful, especially the younger brunette was very customer-minded, but to be totally honest: I was too shocked and confused at the time, and even if I wasn't I would probably be too embarrased to stand in the big reception and perhaps answer questions about why the girl I greased the pole with was rude to me, and so on.
And boy, I really, really wish I knew, especially when that Brazilian girl Pamela had me cornered in the couch, that necking doesn't commit you to anything. I had read that in a FAQ and forums like venuslogen.dk
Bugger!
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Video Footage of FKK Artemis
Just saw this on Bravo tv channel tonight (UK Sky digital channel). Its actually repeated on Bravo +1 at 1.30 am for all u in the UK.
But for the rest of u guys, here is 5 minutes of high quality footage of this elaborate club from the Bravo website.
[url]http://www.bravo.co.uk/sincities/ep08.html[/url]
I always find the presenter of this series Ashley Hames entertaining, but I reckon he really isnt that into sex....
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[QUOTE=Wan King]
But for the rest of u guys, here is 5 minutes of high quality footage of this elaborate club from the Bravo website.
[url]http://www.bravo.co.uk/sincities/ep08.html[/url][/QUOTE]Funny, I actually met two of the girls in this footage. The little blonde, Martina from Hungary, was perhaps not one of the most young and attractive girls at Artemis, but I will never forget her since she had a very sunny mood, that really transmitted on everybody around her, and she obviously was happy with her work. In bright contrast to the Swedish media's picture of Artemis ("the girls are forced to sell themselves to the Swedes" like Aftonbladet wrote, and so on.).
If this was aired in Sweden it would cause moral panic and the public opinion would demand their heads on a plate.
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What is the logic behind the 60 Euro
Why is it that the price for normal sex is 60 Euros at Artemis, and 50 Euros everywhere else. Is the extra 10 euro some sort of bonus to the girls or shared by the management or due to the fact that Artemis is in Berlin, so cost of living is higher than other parts of Germany ?
Could someone clear this out for me please.
Thanks!
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Hauptstadtpreis
Berlin is the capital city. Prices tend to be higher in London, Paris etc. Rents etc. FKK Vienna used to be EUR 60 a session. I believe it may even be higher now, not sure. Even if costs for the club (and passed on to the girls) are not higher, the price is accepted in Berlin, so it probably won't change.
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[QUOTE=Krazydude]Why is it that the price for normal sex is 60 Euros at Artemis, and 50 Euros everywhere else. Is the extra 10 euro some sort of bonus to the girls or shared by the management or due to the fact that Artemis is in Berlin, so cost of living is higher than other parts of Germany ?
Could someone clear this out for me please.
Thanks![/QUOTE]
Everything is more expensive in Berlin! It is the Hauptstadt after all.
And if you're upset witht the 10E increase in Berlin, you will be livid with the prices for sessions in Munchen. At FKK Relax in Munchen, a recent report I read stated a 30min session was 75E, 1 hour at a whopping 150E!! Best stick with the NRW clubs or even Hessen, eh?
Ortos
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[QUOTE=Nyhanare]Martina from Hungary, was perhaps not one of the most young and attractive girls at Artemis, but I will never forget her since she had a very sunny mood, that really transmitted on everybody around her, and she obviously was happy with her work. [/QUOTE]
Hey, I thought that was Martina- a girl I know from FKK World, but why is she speaking Italian? Anybody? I remember her speaking only German.
beffen
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[QUOTE=Beffen1]Hey, I thought that was Martina- a girl I know from FKK World, but why is she speaking Italian? Anybody? I remember her speaking only German.[/QUOTE]Thanks to Wan King for posting this link to Bravo TV website! Nice little video and good quality. Gives a good first impression of this large and elegant club in Berlin.
For sure this is Martina with silicon enhanced breasts. I was wondering too about her making use of the italian language. I think, it's her attempt to hide a little bit her hungarian identity! Besides being broadcasted on TV in certain countries, once such a video is in the internet, you can watch it everywhere around the world!
Along with Martina, Barbara and Erika appear in this nice and funny video, they all come from Hungaria. I met all three of them in FKK-World in Pohlheim. Most of the hungarians who had been there in the first half of 2006 seem to have turned their back on FKK-World and headed for the big cities like Berlin and Frankfurt.
Erika is the one who confesses openheartedly in the video, that she indeed had sex with an english guy and that it was "good", "yes" :-)
She went to Colosseum in Augsburg for some time after she had left FKK-World in the first half of 2006.
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[QUOTE=Toscana]Berlin is the capital city. Prices tend to be higher in London, Paris etc. Rents etc. FKK Vienna used to be EUR 60 a session. I believe it may even be higher now, not sure. Even if costs for the club (and passed on to the girls) are not higher, the price is accepted in Berlin, so it probably won't change.[/QUOTE]
Rents are actually higher in Frankfurt or Munich. Still quite a few empty flats and office spaces in Berlin and a number of Wohnungen that are pretty darn "grosszügig". But Atermis is, for all practical purposes, the only game in town.
Cheers,
Dedalus
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Report FKK Artemis 25.04.07
Visit Artemis 25.04.07, 14.30-00.00
With a few days on business in Berlin I decided to give Artemis a look. For some background, I have been with about 35-40 working girls, primarily in Dubai, Turkey and Thailand. I was in Berlin for a night in February and enjoyed the company of Miranda at Kamilla La Dee. This time though, I had more time & cash, so it was off to Artemis.
I won’t go into the details at the beginning, suffice to say it was easy to get to off public transportation and easy to find. If I was one of the guys in the tyre place out front, I wouldn’t be able to concentrate knowing what was going on inside the building next door.
After paying my €70 I received a white robe (not the yellow I was expecting). Changed, showered and it was off to see what this place was all about.
Walked in to the upstairs bar (I’ll refer to this area as the bar and the downstairs area as the wellness). About a dozen women sitting around, as well four were sitting playing on the card machines at the entrance to the bar and half a dozen men.
I walked around and checked out all the areas I had read about, and went downstairs. Another six women laying on the lounges at the bottom of these stairs – I was to discover that there is a small group who hang out on these lounges with only the occasional walk around the bar area. If you like one of them, best to approach them in their favoured location.
Wellness area was also quiet, a few men reading or sleeping on the sun lounges and three or four women around the bar. Satisfied I had scoped out the area, it was back to the bar.
I ordered a drink and checked out the ladies on offer. Wednesday was Dessous day, so the ladies were dressed in lingerie – although some lingerie didn’t leave a lot to the imagination. It was quite nice – not having seen them naked I can’t compare – but nice lingerie can be quite erotic.
Before too long, a tall, well built leggy blonde made her way to where I was. She sat down and she introduced herself as Dorean. She was from Berlin, 21-22 years old. Her English was excellent, and she had nice blue eyes. I am a sucker for nice blue eyes and blonde hair, so after chatting for about 5 minutes, I accepted her invitation to go upstairs. I must say, in those five minutes, it was all very relaxed and I was not put under any pressure at all.
Following Dorean up the stairs, I saw she had a nice rear end – meaty and enough to grab on to. She was also very tall in her thigh high leopard skin boots – she told me they are her trademark…bookmark that into your mind!
First room – the Safari room. Quite appropriate for a girl with leopard skin boots. Dorean had given me the price rundown downstairs, so it was straight into the action. Everything was available – CIM, COF, anal. The first two were € 50 extra and the third € 100 (this is in addition to the € 60 standard).
We undressed and we started kissing. She has a killer body – breasts 34-36C’s, very firm with nice sized nipples. I had a suck on those puppies for a while.
I usually don’t go for kissing (I’ve probably only done it with three or four working ladies in the past) but she was so nice that I couldn’t help it. From there she went to a BBBJ, and she was pretty good at that too. She told me that DATY was available, and she was so nice and pink that I had to go down and taste it. She seemed to enjoy it and made the right moans and movements. She was also getting pretty wet in there – no artificial lube needed. I came up for air and some more kissing.
I like watching girls masturbate, and when I asked her she did it without hesitation. She lay back and worked herself with both hands, rubbing her clit and fingering herself at the same time. I was raring to go after watching this, so Dorean slipped the condom on and I slipped it in. We started in some nice missionary, and she continued to kiss and keep her eyes open (I have found many ladies will close their eyes – I like to look into their eyes in this position), all the while a large smile on her face. We also kissed some more while I built up a nice steady rhythm.
I then switched her around to doggy to have a look at that great arse. We went at it this way for a little while, she was bouncing back onto me, and she would look back over her shoulder and give me some great smiles. She would also flick that platinum blonde air around, and I grabbed it and held on like a rodeo rider. She didn’t mind that at all.
I wanted to make this last as long as possible, but all good things must come to an end. I asked Dorean how long to go, and she told me five minutes…it felt like I had been with her for a lot longer than 25….I had agreed to a COF so with a few last strokes I pulled out and she spun around and took the condom off. A few quick jerks from her and I unloaded a week’s worth onto her beautiful face – (I had been storing it up) – with an incredible orgasm-the type that does not come along very often, that rips from the very depth of your stomach. Her eyes were open the entire time – very unusual – and after the first spurt across the bridge of the nose the rest went around her lips and cheeks. She was happy to play with it on her face for a bit before wiping it off. I literally collapsed back onto the bed and she lay down beside me and gave me some more kissing.
It was without doubt my best provider experience ever – not even beautiful Marya, my Russian favourite from Dubai, was this good. Dorean, apart from being physically attractive was attentive, good fun, no pressure and a complete GFE. For those of you who like the GFE, you couldn’t go past Dorean. It even tempted this jaded john into liking the GFE!
End of Part 1
Artemis 25.04.07 Part 2
After paying Dorean (my legs were still weak and I almost didn’t make it down the stairs – luckily Dorean is a lot taller than me in her high boots and helped me down) I went downstairs to the wellness. I noticed the crowd had built up slightly since the 30 minutes I had been with Dorean, but the six or so girls were still grouped around the lounge at the base of the stairs.
My plan between sessions was to spend 15 minutes in the Bio-Sauna, then a quick dip in the pool and recover with some juice and water. So basically this is what I did. I noticed that some men had newspapers and books and were relaxing in the sun lounges around the pool, some were even sleeping – a good idea if that is your thing. After about 30 mins in the wellness, I went back upstairs to the bar.
The bar had filled up a bit more, and I sipped on a few more juices while checking out the lovely ladies. A few more had come in and there were probably 25 women present at this time. While sitting there, six or so women came up and chatted to me – varying degrees of English, but after some small talk, a polite “ no-thanks, I’m resting, maybe later” worked every time. I never felt under pressure or hard sell.
At 5pm, 90 mins after my incredible experience with Dorean ended, I noticed Kim. Much smaller than Dorean, tallish (but wearing high heels) and quite young looking. Long blonde hair, dark eyes – hair cut across her eyes in a fringe, with a sun-face tattoo on her left collarbone.
I called her over and her English was OK. She was from Poland, and was 19 (although she looked 18 ) and was quiet and demure. I agreed to go upstairs with her – I was there to try all types but it seemed my blonde tastes were winning out.
This time room 10, the Flamenco room. When Kim removed her lingerie, I was amazed at how small she was. I’m not large by any stretch of the imagination, but she looked too small to be able to take a finger…but I tried anyway. She started with a BBBJ, and soon I had her back fingering herself while I watched. She wasn’t as enthusiastic at it as Dorean, but tried hard none the less. She has small breasts – 32A or maybe a B – no more than a hand full – so I licked and sucked those. We then got down to the business – with some artificial lubrication I started in the missionary position.
No kissing, but she is pretty enough to be able to look down on, and moaned and made the right noises – although she did close her eyes quite a bit. As you would expect from someone so small, she is quite a tight fit, but comfortable. I was getting a bit tired so she had a go in cowgirl – but she seemed to like looking at herself in the mirror – so after a bit of this I moved her around into doggy – my stock standard position.
This was very nice, and with her little blackhole looking up at me (although it was more light brown than black) I thought what the heck. After checking she did it that way (…yes, of course…) and the application of more lubrication, I pushed it in. I thought I was going to have the life squeezed out of the old fella…she was so bloody tight. I guess what do you expect from one so small. She didn’t seem to mind, and I set up a nice rhythm after a slow start. Kim continued to make the right noises and I was feeling pretty good.
This being the second go-around, it was going to take a bit so as we approached the 30 minute mark, Kim gave me the 5 minute warning. Not wanting to force anything, I told her that I would extend for the hour (this was turning into a nice little earner for her!) so continued to go nicely into her cute little bum. By changing my rhythm, I was able to keep going, but my legs were starting to cramp up (ahh getting old) so I sped up. After my first COF with Dorean I thought Kim might like some of the same (…of course with a smile and €50 later) so she took my second load onto her cute little face. Reached for the towel more quickly than Dorean did.
We still had 15 minutes to go in the second hour so she offered a massage to finish off. I accepted her offer and she rubbed my back and legs for the time, while we chatted as best we could. She was sitting cross-legged beside me and looking at her cute little body as she sat there made we want to go again! She is very nicely tanned and her small pink pussy lips are very inviting.
Let me say that this room is very noisy – as it had been a warm day, we had the window open and when the train went past it sounded like it was coming through the wall. If you are easily out off by noise, ask for one of the rooms that overlooks the carpark at the front.
It was 6pm by this time and dinner was being served. I went through my usual post-activity routine and went up to dinner about 6.30pm. The dining room is a bit college-cafeteria like, but I’ve never seen beauties like the ones I saw there in any college cafeteria!
After dinner and some chat with a nice German gentleman and an attractive young lady, it was back to the bar area. I had asked Dorean earlier if she had a friend who she played with, and she does, so I intended on having her and a friend. This is one of the dilemma’s of the FKK – do you continue to go for variety or if you find one you connect with, do you go for that?
Over the next hour or so, the crowd built up and there was around 40 men and 60 women by 8pm. There always seemed to be more than enough women, and very few men were there on their own (like I was). Quite a few groups of friends among the men, enjoying themselves in this great atmosphere.
I had not been able to catch Dorean for a while – she was one busy girl (if her performance with me was anything to go by, I’m not surprised). A cute blonde had been catching my eye for a while, so when she came past me I said hello and she sat down. After a bit of chit-chat, I found out her name was Jenny and she was German. A nice body, good English and recommended by the German gentleman from dinner. A large tattoo on her upper arm. Breasts at the 34C mark, and firm.
This time it was the 101 Nights room – nice with large double mirrors. Jenny started with a nice BBBJ, and as this was #3, I thought it would take some work. She was very good at the BJ, better than the previous two. We did this for a while, and I then got behind her for some doggy. I was a little sore after spending so much time in Kim’s tight holes so this time, it wasn’t quite working. It was nothing wrong with Jenny’s action – she even asked if I wanted to upsell to anal – but the BJ earlier had been too good and I was ready for that, so we switched back to the BJ.
Unusually, Jenny did not offer CIM or COF, so as she continued her excellent BJ I layed back and enjoyed it. Finally I asked her to pull away and I finished in another explosive rush. Jenny cleaned me up and lay beside me for a bit, before our time was up and we headed down to the lockers where I paid her. Jenny was a nice girl, tried very hard and gave a great BJ – recommended.
End of Part 2
Part 3
Back downstairs, and the crowd had built up quite considerably. A lot of new girls had come in and there was now quite a collection. Some were dancing on the various podiums set up for this and there was plenty of movement up and down the stairs to the rooms. Resting between sessions is a good way to check out which girls are popular and which pretty well lay around doing nothing. I sat at the bar for a while and moved around different couches, and took in the views.
Everywhere you looked there was a fine lady prancing around, flaunting whatever she had. During this time I was approached by several ladies, but as the clock was winding down for me I wanted to finish off with Dorean and her friend.
Dorean’s play-friend was a larger woman by the name of Tatiana, from Croatia. Older than the other girls there (I think she said she was 37), and bigger, she was still one of those women who exude sexuality. She may not be the slim 18 yo model type, but you can tell that she enjoys herself, and her work. I had seen her several times across the course of the afternoon, and she was always happy and flirting with the men. Some of the younger girls could learn a thing off her about developing a chemistry before going for the “You want sex..” approach.
Tatiana ended up sitting with me for about 30 mins as we waited for Dorean to finish (busy girl that one). Soon I saw the blonde beauty come into the bar, and Tatiana was off in a rush to grab her. Dorean came over to the couch and the three of us had a drink with some playful groping. Then we were off to the room – this time the Blue Nights room (I think it is next to the Safari room). Nice room, big double mirrors – just right for a 3 way romp!
The pricing was € 60 standard for each of the girls and € 50 each for the full-lesbian treatment. Once in the room and it was kisses all round, at one point we were having a nice 3 way kiss! There was plenty of laughing and joking around, these two knew their business and they were enjoying themselves and each other. Soon Tatiana and I were one each on Dorean’s great tits, and simultaneously fingering her. I had one finger in Dorean and the other in Tatiana. The girls then pushed me back and went into a double BBBJ. Taking turns between sucking and kissing each other. They then went at each other – full on tongue kissing and sucking of tits before going for each other’s pussies. Now this was not some soft-core porn pretend to lick and touch as I have had before – these two went at each other like they meant it (and I think they did).
There were moans and groans coming from both of them, and I was pretty keen to get into the action. As Tatiana continued to lick Dorean, I moved behind her and slid straight in doggy style. It was great to watch Dorean laid back, enjoying Tatiana’s licking and I could look straight at her. She never stopped smiling and laughing, and looked me straight in the eye as we enjoyed Tatiana in different ways. Tatiana asked me to slap her ample butt, which I did, and it seemed to spur her on. As hard as I could slap, she kept wanting more.
With all that was going on, I felt #4 starting to build. Not wanting to end just yet, I had the girls go into 69 and I lay beside them. Dorean was on top and I had a great view of her licking at Tatiana’s pussy, and she was especially working the clit. Soon, Tatiana started bucking her hips and it was all Dorean could do to hold on. If Tatiana was faking her orgasm, she did a great job of it! In between licking Tatiana, Dorean would lean over and suck me or give me a kiss – always with those big blue eyes open.
As we approached our 30 minute mark, I wanted to reward the girls for their show and offered them a double COF…(…yes, of course…). When I gave the word, they positioned themselves and I shot into their faces (I was surprised at how much I had left!) and they then kissed and tongued each other with my juice still over their faces. We then went into a three way kiss and it was all good! I collapsed back onto the bed and they wiped their faces off, before laying beside me and we all had a good laugh and some more kissing and fondling (even after I came, one lay either side of me and they kissed over the top of me).
The thing that stands out from this session is that it was fun – I am a realist enough to know that money is involved – but in all my experience I have never encountered a session like this where the girls seemed to like working with each other and that came across in the way they interacted with me.
Too soon I was back at the lockers paying these beauties and I knew it was time to call it a night. Here is the second great dilemma – when do you call it a night? The lure to go back in one more time is so strong that after my shower I did just that – went back to the bar where I shared a mineral water with Dorean and Tatiana – before Dorean was taken not five minutes after walking back in and Tatiana also went to do more work. Another mineral water on a couch, watching the amazing women walk by, and it really was time to go. My first experience at an FKK was at an end, 9.5 hours after it began!
Summary:
#1 Dorean, German 21-22. BBBJ/DATY/Mish/Doggy/COF Absolutely stunning, GFE.10/10, five stars, call it what you will. The reason after every bad session we keep coming back for more. 10/10/10
#2 Kim, Polish 19. BBBJ/Mish/Doggy/Anal/COF/Massage. Nice session, 8/10. The train going past was a distraction. Nice small body if you like that. It was always going to be tough after Dorean. 9/7/8
#3 Jenny, German mid-20’s. BBBJ/Doggy. A tough one for Jenny as I was really after a double with Dorean but took Jenny as a filler. Great BJ, tried to upsell to Anal and would probably be enthusiastic. Nice girl, no CIM or COF. 8/7/6
#4 MFF with Dorean and Tatiana, Croatia, late 30’s. Hard-Core Lesbian/BBBJ/Doggy/Double COF. Fantastic & Fun session with two women who seemed to enjoy what they were doing. Anything with Dorean is a GFE. 10/10
Observations & Comments:
The sheer variety of women on offer was surprising. There were older women, younger ones, blonde, brunette, red head, dark skin, light skin, small breasts, large breasts…you get the picture. If you can’t find “your” type there, “your” type ain’t human, and you could probably be a topic on a Jerry Springer show “Tonight we meet a man who can’t find a woman at an FKK” (Crowd…Ohhhh…)
The ratings are really subjective, and what I would rate a 10 you may not. One of my best mates is into the dark skin Latino women – while I am a blonde-light skin man – and we both would have found a 10 amongst the women. I would say there were 6-10’s there – again, very subjective.
The girls were not aggressive at all. I’ve experienced Cyclone, Rattlesnake, Soi Cowboy and some pretty seedy back bars in Turkey and these girls were pussycats compared to them. Some were so disinterested (the group that hung out at the foot of the stairs or those that spent most of their night on the card machines) that I wondered why they were there at all. Generally, if you said you were relaxing, or not ready, or just a polite “maybe later”, they left you alone. Most are nice enough for a chat and some small talk – but don’t waste their time.
The FKK would be great with a group of friends (or even just one friend) you could go with and share the non-girl time with. A few times I was sitting alone watching groups of friends enjoy the atmosphere and the girls, and it would be an outstanding place for that. I guess that is where it all started.
I had no problems going there on a Wednesday afternoon. It gets a lot busier later, but it was nice to get there, chill out and find my bearings without the action-charged atmosphere of later on. Plus I was able to get Dorean without waiting. Later she would be grabbed as soon as she walked into the room.
I found the shower facilities to be a little awkward. When drying yourself after a shower, there was very little room to do so between the sinks and the wall, as well as being a thoroughfare for the toilet. Also the showers that only stay on for 20 seconds are a bit annoying.
Try not to get a room on the railway tracks (10 or above I think), one of the rooms in the middle overlooking the carpark is best. Of course, there are a lot of places within the complex that you can be with a lady if that is what you want.
I did not see any significant kino action, but the girls certainly patrol that area. I only spent a few minutes in a kino. I had my eye on a nice brunette who was in the kino alone, but when I went in to sit beside her, I found out she did not speak English so that sort of put me off. A Russian guy came in and they went to the back of the Kino.
The € 70 entrance pays for itself in the long run. I was there for 9. 5 hours – so that is €7. 50 per hour. Take out the 2. 5 hours I actually spent with the girls, and that comes to € 10 an hour. For that tenner, I drank copious amounts of juice and mineral water (more than € 10 worth), had a reasonable dinner and several sessions in the sauna and pool. As well I got to look at some of the finest female flesh on the planet. And if I wanted, they were all there for me. I just needed to say the word.
There’s no need to say where I’m going tonight.
Cheers
Dogger862
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Excellent report..
.. Dogger862!
The nice level of detail makes me feel like I'm participating in the activity.
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[QUOTE=Jackyo].. Dogger862!
The nice level of detail makes me feel like I'm participating in the activity.[/QUOTE]Thanks Jackyo. I am just trying to repay some of the high quality information I picked up here before my own FKK experience.
Cheers,
Dogger862
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Visit Artemis 26.04.07
visit artemis 26.04.07 2130-0230.
after my adventures in artemis the day before, i think there are as-yet undiscovered tribes in the amazon jungle who knew i would be back again. this time, due to business engagements, i could not get there until 9.30pm. it would be interesting to see how it was different from the day before.
my plan was to have dorean again, then try someone new and then a double with dorean and tatiana. it was a tough decision, but in the end i decided to hedge my bets both ways. like i said yesterday – this is one of the great dilemma’s of the fkk!
upon entering the bar i was surprised at how quiet it was. about 15 men, and 20-25 women walking & sitting around. i had seen the women the previous day in lingerie, and today they were naked. what a sight! while there were a few familiar faces, my first impression was that the quality was higher than the day before. there was one magnificent lady sitting on the arm of one of the couches almost immediately to the left as you first walk in – long dark hair, tanned skin and a pair of the most largest and firm tits i have ever seen. they personified the word perfection. she sat up on the couch like a goddess surveying her realm, and when she wasn’t with a man, that was her position.
my position was by the bar, so over i went. i saw jenny and said hello, and had just asked for a juice when dorean came into the room. she saw me and came over and we had a kiss and a hug. she sat down beside me and we had a chat about the day. apparently a man had died of a heart attack in his car on the road outside artemis and the entrance road had been blocked for several hours – hence the lower numbers. we chatted for 15 minutes or so before the sight of her sitting naked before me (she had positioned herself facing me with one leg draped over the back of the chair…very distracting but of course she wanted me to look – so i obliged!) got the interest rising so off we went.
back to the safari room and we were straight into it. plenty of kissing as before, and she was giggling and smiling throughout as we played with each other. i had a suck on her firm young breasts and as she lay on her back, i couldn’t wait to get inside her. dorean then produced a femi-dom condom, one i had not used before. the woman actually puts it inside herself and there is no need for the man to wear a condom. the downside is that you need a little artificial lubricant but there is no ‘covered’ feeling on you, and she feels just as good!
we started in mish with dorean’s legs right back over her head, giving me great access. on each down stroke i was right inside her – and she had her head arched back. she would look up at me, and we would share a kiss, before she put her head back and continue to moan.
i told her i owed her the anal from the day before, so we switched to doggy while i got a regular condom ready. i almost didn’t make it out of her exquisite pussy in time, but fortunately i saved it and i was soon pushing into her equally as exquisite butt. she was so tight and really seemed to get off with me in her arse, reaching under to play with herself while i fucked her.
by varying my stroke i was able to prolong the pleasure until it came time for the release. a few forceful last strokes (as i hard as i could go she just kept taking it) and she whipped around to take another load onto her face and in her mouth. it was like the core of my being was being channeled into this gorgeous girl’s mouth…and all the while she looked up at me with those blue eyes.
i literally fell back onto the bed and she came and lay beside me, and we kissed for a bit. she put her head on my chest and i stroked her back as we lay there and i got my breath back. it was a great moment.
we went downstairs and after the usual routine i was back in the bar to look for number two. as i mentioned, the quality was higher than the day before, and there were some very nice large breasted petite blondes prancing around, but then again, and equally high number of brunettes as well! it was around 10.30, so my session with dorean must have gone over the 30 minute mark, although she did not say anything. i don’t wear a watch so rely on the ladies to tell me the time, although i do have a sense of time if i think i am being hustled.
the crowd had also built up considerably, with most couches now full and almost every seat at the bar. i noticed a tallish girl with long darker blonde hair and medium sized breasts walking around. she seemed to be very popular, and i recall chatting with her the day before. i think she is russian or lithuanian. she has a very firm arse, and what i would call a long face. she is very active in walking around, not like some others who just sit around.
i was finishing up my drink to go down to the wellness for some rest, when i felt a hand and the back of my neck and someone nibbling at my ear lobe. i turned around and it was dorean. i was surprised to see her – last night she had been grabbed practically as she walked in the door – and said as much to her. she told me that she had already had a busy day, and would like some time to relax, and asked when/if i was going to the wellness. i told her that i was just about to head down. she asked if she could join me!
of course i said yes – now i am savvy enough to know that this girl’s time is money, and she already knew in a an hour and a half or so that i would be looking for her again (that is another three clients for her), so she did not need to do any hard sell on me to get her again (a flutter of those blue eyes and that cheeky smile was enough!). i tried to detect an ulterior motive, but i couldn’t. i think she genuinely wanted to take a break.
we went down to the wellness and this time it was a total gfe. it is one thing to be walking upstairs with her, but to go to the wellness, it was quite unusual. in my time there (total over two days of 14.5 hours), i did not see any girl use the sauna’s or any of the wellness area, except for the lounges by the pool occasionally. there was one other gentleman in the bio-sauna, and his eyes went quite round when he saw dorean come in and recline herself on the top level. we sat in the sauna (she lay, i sat) for 20 mins and in that time four men came in – she was quite a sight with the sweat running off her smooth skin.
all the while we chatted about various things and it was very relaxing. after leaving the sauna we showered (she soaped me up and rinsed me off) and i did the same to her, and then we went to the wellness bar for a drink. there were about 8 girls and 10-12 men down this way, and dorean explained that the girls did not often come looking for men down there as they understood it was where men preferred to rest (although the gentleman getting a bj on the couch from a brunette ukrainian who i had chatted with last night might disagree). i was rubbing dorean as we sat there, just caressing her legs and rubbing her inner thigh. she seemed to like this and moved closer as well as opening her legs for easier access.
it was around midnight by this stage, and we headed upstairs to find tatiana. my plan of finding a girl between dorean and #1 and the double for #3 had evaporated like sweat in the sauna. sorry if this last piece was not too interesting (no sex) but it was so unusual to have effectively spent 2 hours of non-sex time in the immediate company of such a beautiful girl for no extra cost that i had to relate it here. i’ll say it again – if the gfe is your thing, i had it here in bucketfuls.
back upstairs we discovered that tatiana was just on her way up for a double with an older russian lady – darkish blonde hair, great tits, nice firm arse and a tattoo on her mound (should be easy to spot) so we decided to wait for her. i told dorean that i understood if she needed to go scouting for business while we waited, but she was content just to wait with me.
the bar was quite full and it was tough to find a seat, but we did. i enjoyed the endless parade of great looking women walking past, while stroking dorean. she was also keeping me interested with some under-robe hand action.
the half hour went pretty quick (as it does when you are looking at great bodies and being stroked by one of them) and soon tatiana was back. she had a drink and we were heading upstairs. this time to the python room. this room is in the middle of the two corridors of rooms, and funnily enough, it looks across to the fetish room where someone was being fucked pretty hard. i could hear the slapping and moaning from our room, and both girls seemed to be exciting by the noise as well. i must say that we had our window open as it was a warm night, so that helped to draw the sound in.
as i had not gone with #2, i told the girls that this session would be an hour. they were very happy with that and showed it by jumping into a double bbbj. i had them lay one either side of me, opposite to where i was laying so that i could finger them simultaneously. i was hard and ready to go (dorean had been stoking the fire for a while in the bar) so i had dorean lay back and tatiana started to lick her. i got behind tatiana and entered her easily. she was very energetic and as i mentioned yesterday, liked her butt slapped repeatedly. as hard as i could slap her, she kept asking for more. soon, my hand was red from slapping her!
all the while, dorean was laying back on the cushions looking at me and smiling as she had her pussy licked and sucked…what a sight. i was feeling release coming on, so i slipped out of tatiana and put her on her back for some licking, and changed to fucking dorean in doggy. tatiana really gets off and i knew my blonde wouldn’t disappoint, so intended on timing our orgasms.
as dorean licked and sucked at tatiana her hips began to buck and i grabbed onto my beauty’s hips and really gave her some thrusts, slamming into her as hard as i could while i had another tremendous orgasm. i’m sure the people in the fetish room heard everything (tatiana’s screams and my roar, but it was nice to compete with them). the girls were a little disappointed as every shot into a condom is € 50 wasted (they did not say so but i could sense it – especially as they knew my predilection for cof), but i threw out the challenge – we had 40 minutes of our hour to go, and if they could give me #3, the extra euros were theirs.
so we all lay there for a few minutes, the girls alternating between fondling me, themselves and each other. like the masters they are, they knew exactly how to move the tempo along with how i would recover (ie they did not go into the hardcore straight after my first orgasm, they knew it would take a bit) and after about 10 mins we were starting to go again.
one thing that tatiana did during this time while we were relaxing was give me a prostrate massage. this is quite good, and i have read it is actually a very easy way to avoid any problems in that area. so after several minutes of gently fingering my butt (also makes a change after what i had done to theirs) the girls started on each other again.
they began in a 69 which involved plenty of fingering and tongue action. i was slowing jerking away, bringing myself to full hardness again and every now and then i would have dorean, who was on top, lean over and give a suck or two. i also like just rubbing my head over her face, which she did not seem to mind. the girls were going at it for about 10 minutes when i knew it was time to go again.
i moved tatiana onto her back and dorean kept licking her, while i moved up and had tatiana suck me. as her head was back, it was more of a case of me fucking her mouth rather than she having any leverage to suck me. it all felt good anyway.
the combination of looking down at dorean and her pretty face entrenched in tatiana’s pussy (her eyes though firmly on mine) and tatiana’s oral expertise had me ready for #3, and i told the girls. as i sat up on my knees they put their faces right where i could get a good shot at both, and that’s what they got. #7 in about 33 hours didn’t quite have the same volume as #1 did (dorean joked with me about that later) but still there was enough for them to lick off each other’s face and then we shared it around in a 3 way kiss. it was all good and i was spent. i lay back and again the girls lay beside me, dorean on the right and tatiana on the left. we laughed and had some small-chat before the hour was up…it went all far too quickly.
once again this pair had proved to be fun, open-minded, enthusiastic and willing to please me, each other and themselves. they showed that even though money is involved, that there is no need for either side to treat each other unfairly or like it is a burden to be endured.
back downstairs and i knew i did not have another left in me, it was about 01.40 by this stage. plenty of men were arriving even at this hour, and plenty of movement up and down the stairs. after my shower common-sense told me that i had to go as i had a full day of business ahead but the lure to just sit and look at the girls was too much. i went back in.
it was tough to get a seat at the bar this time, and after a few laps i couldn’t find a spare seat. all of the couches were also taken, so as i was standing there i again felt a hand behind me as i was turned around. it was dorean and she gave me a deep kiss as we stood there near the bar.
fortunately two seats had become available so we sat down. i told her that i would move if it meant she was losing business, but she was happy to sit and have a drink. the parade of women continued, some outstanding and all very sexy.
dorean finished her drink and stood up, as she was off to walk the floor again. i watched as she made her way around to the different groups of men (those in my line of sight anyway – i did not stare at her all the way around) and even though she tried hard, and is a very attractive woman wearing very little – she had no luck. she came back to where i was sitting (i was contemplating #4 such was the quality around me) and said that she had had enough for the day and was leaving after one more drink. she had tried everything to get a man (including turning on the bar stool and facing a group of three sitting on the couch, and just opening her legs to them – they actually moved!) but she said there was very little interest being shown at that point by the men on the floor.
it was approaching 02.30, so i had to leave and she said she would leave with me (the bar not the entire place). so we walked out together and as i went to get changed in the men’s room, we had a long kiss before she went her way.
even when you are getting changed, the view of the girls coming and going from their change room almost draws you back in for another look or one more session…but not this time. this would be my last trip to artemis this time around…but hopefully not forever! i am hooked!
there were plenty of taxis outside and a taxi from artemis to bundasallee near the guntzelstrasse u train station was €12. 10
summary
#1 dorean, german 21-22. platinum blonde, killer body, firm tits, nice round arse. bbbj/mish/doggy/anal/cof. if you have not read my previous report, then i will repeat that dorean is my best provider experience ever. totally gfe, fun, attentive, creative. if i could do a nigel from spinal tap…this one goes to 11 (out of 10). if i were kidnapped by terrorists and had to give 10 reasons to live one of them would be to spend another 30 minutes with dorean. look for the knee-high leopard skin boots, they are her trademark and put her at about 180cm (5’11”) when wearing them.
#2-#3 dorean and tatiana, 37 croatian. heavy set, great personality and enthusiasm. appears to be orgasmic. bbbj/hardcore lesbian/doggy (both)/prostate massage/cof (one hour session). i thought it would be tough to back up after last night with this pair but it just got better…again i’ll say it – a fun session with giggling, laughter and the three of us having a good time. these girls appear to like what they do.
footnote – i spent between about 10.30pm and 00.30 and 01.30-02.30 with dorean in the wellness and the bar. in my five hours there, i was alone without dorean for probably 15 minutes as she looked for work.
observations & comments
initially thursday night was a lot quieter than wednesday but it was explained to me that there had been some issues with access to the place due to a problem on the road. it certainly filled up later.
quality was higher on thursday than wednesday, and of course no dessous on thursday. i think i liked the nakedness better.
they hadn’t done anything about the short showers or the small drying area – so same comment there as before.
the gfe experience with dorean was very unexpected. i never thought she would pretty well spend the whole night with me (of course outside our 90 minutes of paid time there was no obligation to either of us).
it is a tricky dilemma to be in…do i go with one i don't know or keep going the same way. if i lived in berlin or could get here regularly, then i would experiment. as i only had the two nights, i thought the second night’s investment was better spent on a sure fun session. that’s my choice, and others may have spent their 7 pops on 7 different girls.
there was never a shortage of stunning girls ready and willing, and again in every form you could want.
the last point i will make is something that dorean told me – and i think most of us know this but it is worth repeating – the girls react better when they are being treated nicely and they have feelings as well. treating them poorly, leading them on, disputing the time or what they did/did not do without due reason (and sometimes there is a valid reason to dispute) will turn the girls off and thus lead to a poor performance on their part and a poor experience for you.
overall, my first fkk experience was better than i could have hoped for. i just need to find a reason to come to berlin again….
comments/questions welcome.
cheers
dogger862
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Very nice to talk with you at Artemis.
Maybe next time we will meet in Dubai.
All the best for you, it really was nice talking with you.
[QUOTE=Dogger862]Visit Artemis 25.04.07, 14.30-00.00
With a few days on business in Berlin I decided to give Artemis a look. For some background, I have been with about 35-40 working girls, primarily in Dubai, Turkey and Thailand. I was in Berlin for a night in February and enjoyed the company of Miranda at Kamilla La Dee. This time though, I had more time & cash, so it was off to Artemis.
I won’t go into the details at the beginning, suffice to say it was easy to get to off public transportation and easy to find. If I was one of the guys in the tyre place out front, I wouldn’t be able to concentrate knowing what was going on inside the building next door.
After paying my €70 I received a white robe (not the yellow I was expecting). Changed, showered and it was off to see what this place was all about.
Walked in to the upstairs bar (I’ll refer to this area as the bar and the downstairs area as the wellness). About a dozen women sitting around, as well four were sitting playing on the card machines at the entrance to the bar and half a dozen men.
I walked around and checked out all the areas I had read about, and went downstairs. Another six women laying on the lounges at the bottom of these stairs – I was to discover that there is a small group who hang out on these lounges with only the occasional walk around the bar area. If you like one of them, best to approach them in their favoured location.
Wellness area was also quiet, a few men reading or sleeping on the sun lounges and three or four women around the bar. Satisfied I had scoped out the area, it was back to the bar.
I ordered a drink and checked out the ladies on offer. Wednesday was Dessous day, so the ladies were dressed in lingerie – although some lingerie didn’t leave a lot to the imagination. It was quite nice – not having seen them naked I can’t compare – but nice lingerie can be quite erotic.
Before too long, a tall, well built leggy blonde made her way to where I was. She sat down and she introduced herself as Dorean. She was from Berlin, 21-22 years old. Her English was excellent, and she had nice blue eyes. I am a sucker for nice blue eyes and blonde hair, so after chatting for about 5 minutes, I accepted her invitation to go upstairs. I must say, in those five minutes, it was all very relaxed and I was not put under any pressure at all.
Following Dorean up the stairs, I saw she had a nice rear end – meaty and enough to grab on to. She was also very tall in her thigh high leopard skin boots – she told me they are her trademark…bookmark that into your mind!
First room – the Safari room. Quite appropriate for a girl with leopard skin boots. Dorean had given me the price rundown downstairs, so it was straight into the action. Everything was available – CIM, COF, anal. The first two were € 50 extra and the third € 100 (this is in addition to the € 60 standard).
We undressed and we started kissing. She has a killer body – breasts 34-36C’s, very firm with nice sized nipples. I had a suck on those puppies for a while.
I usually don’t go for kissing (I’ve probably only done it with three or four working ladies in the past) but she was so nice that I couldn’t help it. From there she went to a BBBJ, and she was pretty good at that too. She told me that DATY was available, and she was so nice and pink that I had to go down and taste it. She seemed to enjoy it and made the right moans and movements. She was also getting pretty wet in there – no artificial lube needed. I came up for air and some more kissing.
I like watching girls masturbate, and when I asked her she did it without hesitation. She lay back and worked herself with both hands, rubbing her clit and fingering herself at the same time. I was raring to go after watching this, so Dorean slipped the condom on and I slipped it in. We started in some nice missionary, and she continued to kiss and keep her eyes open (I have found many ladies will close their eyes – I like to look into their eyes in this position), all the while a large smile on her face. We also kissed some more while I built up a nice steady rhythm.
I then switched her around to doggy to have a look at that great arse. We went at it this way for a little while, she was bouncing back onto me, and she would look back over her shoulder and give me some great smiles. She would also flick that platinum blonde air around, and I grabbed it and held on like a rodeo rider. She didn’t mind that at all.
I wanted to make this last as long as possible, but all good things must come to an end. I asked Dorean how long to go, and she told me five minutes…it felt like I had been with her for a lot longer than 25….I had agreed to a COF so with a few last strokes I pulled out and she spun around and took the condom off. A few quick jerks from her and I unloaded a week’s worth onto her beautiful face – (I had been storing it up) – with an incredible orgasm-the type that does not come along very often, that rips from the very depth of your stomach. Her eyes were open the entire time – very unusual – and after the first spurt across the bridge of the nose the rest went around her lips and cheeks. She was happy to play with it on her face for a bit before wiping it off. I literally collapsed back onto the bed and she lay down beside me and gave me some more kissing.
It was without doubt my best provider experience ever – not even beautiful Marya, my Russian favourite from Dubai, was this good. Dorean, apart from being physically attractive was attentive, good fun, no pressure and a complete GFE. For those of you who like the GFE, you couldn’t go past Dorean. It even tempted this jaded john into liking the GFE!
End of Part 1
Artemis 25.04.07 Part 2
After paying Dorean (my legs were still weak and I almost didn’t make it down the stairs – luckily Dorean is a lot taller than me in her high boots and helped me down) I went downstairs to the wellness. I noticed the crowd had built up slightly since the 30 minutes I had been with Dorean, but the six or so girls were still grouped around the lounge at the base of the stairs.
My plan between sessions was to spend 15 minutes in the Bio-Sauna, then a quick dip in the pool and recover with some juice and water. So basically this is what I did. I noticed that some men had newspapers and books and were relaxing in the sun lounges around the pool, some were even sleeping – a good idea if that is your thing. After about 30 mins in the wellness, I went back upstairs to the bar.
The bar had filled up a bit more, and I sipped on a few more juices while checking out the lovely ladies. A few more had come in and there were probably 25 women present at this time. While sitting there, six or so women came up and chatted to me – varying degrees of English, but after some small talk, a polite “ no-thanks, I’m resting, maybe later” worked every time. I never felt under pressure or hard sell.
At 5pm, 90 mins after my incredible experience with Dorean ended, I noticed Kim. Much smaller than Dorean, tallish (but wearing high heels) and quite young looking. Long blonde hair, dark eyes – hair cut across her eyes in a fringe, with a sun-face tattoo on her left collarbone.
I called her over and her English was OK. She was from Poland, and was 19 (although she looked 18 ) and was quiet and demure. I agreed to go upstairs with her – I was there to try all types but it seemed my blonde tastes were winning out.
This time room 10, the Flamenco room. When Kim removed her lingerie, I was amazed at how small she was. I’m not large by any stretch of the imagination, but she looked too small to be able to take a finger…but I tried anyway. She started with a BBBJ, and soon I had her back fingering herself while I watched. She wasn’t as enthusiastic at it as Dorean, but tried hard none the less. She has small breasts – 32A or maybe a B – no more than a hand full – so I licked and sucked those. We then got down to the business – with some artificial lubrication I started in the missionary position.
No kissing, but she is pretty enough to be able to look down on, and moaned and made the right noises – although she did close her eyes quite a bit. As you would expect from someone so small, she is quite a tight fit, but comfortable. I was getting a bit tired so she had a go in cowgirl – but she seemed to like looking at herself in the mirror – so after a bit of this I moved her around into doggy – my stock standard position.
This was very nice, and with her little blackhole looking up at me (although it was more light brown than black) I thought what the heck. After checking she did it that way (…yes, of course…) and the application of more lubrication, I pushed it in. I thought I was going to have the life squeezed out of the old fella…she was so bloody tight. I guess what do you expect from one so small. She didn’t seem to mind, and I set up a nice rhythm after a slow start. Kim continued to make the right noises and I was feeling pretty good.
This being the second go-around, it was going to take a bit so as we approached the 30 minute mark, Kim gave me the 5 minute warning. Not wanting to force anything, I told her that I would extend for the hour (this was turning into a nice little earner for her!) so continued to go nicely into her cute little bum. By changing my rhythm, I was able to keep going, but my legs were starting to cramp up (ahh getting old) so I sped up. After my first COF with Dorean I thought Kim might like some of the same (…of course with a smile and €50 later) so she took my second load onto her cute little face. Reached for the towel more quickly than Dorean did.
We still had 15 minutes to go in the second hour so she offered a massage to finish off. I accepted her offer and she rubbed my back and legs for the time, while we chatted as best we could. She was sitting cross-legged beside me and looking at her cute little body as she sat there made we want to go again! She is very nicely tanned and her small pink pussy lips are very inviting.
Let me say that this room is very noisy – as it had been a warm day, we had the window open and when the train went past it sounded like it was coming through the wall. If you are easily out off by noise, ask for one of the rooms that overlooks the carpark at the front.
It was 6pm by this time and dinner was being served. I went through my usual post-activity routine and went up to dinner about 6.30pm. The dining room is a bit college-cafeteria like, but I’ve never seen beauties like the ones I saw there in any college cafeteria!
After dinner and some chat with a nice German gentleman and an attractive young lady, it was back to the bar area. I had asked Dorean earlier if she had a friend who she played with, and she does, so I intended on having her and a friend. This is one of the dilemma’s of the FKK – do you continue to go for variety or if you find one you connect with, do you go for that?
Over the next hour or so, the crowd built up and there was around 40 men and 60 women by 8pm. There always seemed to be more than enough women, and very few men were there on their own (like I was). Quite a few groups of friends among the men, enjoying themselves in this great atmosphere.
I had not been able to catch Dorean for a while – she was one busy girl (if her performance with me was anything to go by, I’m not surprised). A cute blonde had been catching my eye for a while, so when she came past me I said hello and she sat down. After a bit of chit-chat, I found out her name was Jenny and she was German. A nice body, good English and recommended by the German gentleman from dinner. A large tattoo on her upper arm. Breasts at the 34C mark, and firm.
This time it was the 101 Nights room – nice with large double mirrors. Jenny started with a nice BBBJ, and as this was #3, I thought it would take some work. She was very good at the BJ, better than the previous two. We did this for a while, and I then got behind her for some doggy. I was a little sore after spending so much time in Kim’s tight holes so this time, it wasn’t quite working. It was nothing wrong with Jenny’s action – she even asked if I wanted to upsell to anal – but the BJ earlier had been too good and I was ready for that, so we switched back to the BJ.
Unusually, Jenny did not offer CIM or COF, so as she continued her excellent BJ I layed back and enjoyed it. Finally I asked her to pull away and I finished in another explosive rush. Jenny cleaned me up and lay beside me for a bit, before our time was up and we headed down to the lockers where I paid her. Jenny was a nice girl, tried very hard and gave a great BJ – recommended.
End of Part 2
Part 3
Back downstairs, and the crowd had built up quite considerably. A lot of new girls had come in and there was now quite a collection. Some were dancing on the various podiums set up for this and there was plenty of movement up and down the stairs to the rooms. Resting between sessions is a good way to check out which girls are popular and which pretty well lay around doing nothing. I sat at the bar for a while and moved around different couches, and took in the views.
Everywhere you looked there was a fine lady prancing around, flaunting whatever she had. During this time I was approached by several ladies, but as the clock was winding down for me I wanted to finish off with Dorean and her friend.
Dorean’s play-friend was a larger woman by the name of Tatiana, from Croatia. Older than the other girls there (I think she said she was 37), and bigger, she was still one of those women who exude sexuality. She may not be the slim 18 yo model type, but you can tell that she enjoys herself, and her work. I had seen her several times across the course of the afternoon, and she was always happy and flirting with the men. Some of the younger girls could learn a thing off her about developing a chemistry before going for the “You want sex..” approach.
Tatiana ended up sitting with me for about 30 mins as we waited for Dorean to finish (busy girl that one). Soon I saw the blonde beauty come into the bar, and Tatiana was off in a rush to grab her. Dorean came over to the couch and the three of us had a drink with some playful groping. Then we were off to the room – this time the Blue Nights room (I think it is next to the Safari room). Nice room, big double mirrors – just right for a 3 way romp!
The pricing was € 60 standard for each of the girls and € 50 each for the full-lesbian treatment. Once in the room and it was kisses all round, at one point we were having a nice 3 way kiss! There was plenty of laughing and joking around, these two knew their business and they were enjoying themselves and each other. Soon Tatiana and I were one each on Dorean’s great tits, and simultaneously fingering her. I had one finger in Dorean and the other in Tatiana. The girls then pushed me back and went into a double BBBJ. Taking turns between sucking and kissing each other. They then went at each other – full on tongue kissing and sucking of tits before going for each other’s pussies. Now this was not some soft-core porn pretend to lick and touch as I have had before – these two went at each other like they meant it (and I think they did).
There were moans and groans coming from both of them, and I was pretty keen to get into the action. As Tatiana continued to lick Dorean, I moved behind her and slid straight in doggy style. It was great to watch Dorean laid back, enjoying Tatiana’s licking and I could look straight at her. She never stopped smiling and laughing, and looked me straight in the eye as we enjoyed Tatiana in different ways. Tatiana asked me to slap her ample butt, which I did, and it seemed to spur her on. As hard as I could slap, she kept wanting more.
With all that was going on, I felt #4 starting to build. Not wanting to end just yet, I had the girls go into 69 and I lay beside them. Dorean was on top and I had a great view of her licking at Tatiana’s pussy, and she was especially working the clit. Soon, Tatiana started bucking her hips and it was all Dorean could do to hold on. If Tatiana was faking her orgasm, she did a great job of it! In between licking Tatiana, Dorean would lean over and suck me or give me a kiss – always with those big blue eyes open.
As we approached our 30 minute mark, I wanted to reward the girls for their show and offered them a double COF…(…yes, of course…). When I gave the word, they positioned themselves and I shot into their faces (I was surprised at how much I had left!) and they then kissed and tongued each other with my juice still over their faces. We then went into a three way kiss and it was all good! I collapsed back onto the bed and they wiped their faces off, before laying beside me and we all had a good laugh and some more kissing and fondling (even after I came, one lay either side of me and they kissed over the top of me).
The thing that stands out from this session is that it was fun – I am a realist enough to know that money is involved – but in all my experience I have never encountered a session like this where the girls seemed to like working with each other and that came across in the way they interacted with me.
Too soon I was back at the lockers paying these beauties and I knew it was time to call it a night. Here is the second great dilemma – when do you call it a night? The lure to go back in one more time is so strong that after my shower I did just that – went back to the bar where I shared a mineral water with Dorean and Tatiana – before Dorean was taken not five minutes after walking back in and Tatiana also went to do more work. Another mineral water on a couch, watching the amazing women walk by, and it really was time to go. My first experience at an FKK was at an end, 9.5 hours after it began!
Summary:
#1 Dorean, German 21-22. BBBJ/DATY/Mish/Doggy/COF Absolutely stunning, GFE.10/10, five stars, call it what you will. The reason after every bad session we keep coming back for more. 10/10/10
#2 Kim, Polish 19. BBBJ/Mish/Doggy/Anal/COF/Massage. Nice session, 8/10. The train going past was a distraction. Nice small body if you like that. It was always going to be tough after Dorean. 9/7/8
#3 Jenny, German mid-20’s. BBBJ/Doggy. A tough one for Jenny as I was really after a double with Dorean but took Jenny as a filler. Great BJ, tried to upsell to Anal and would probably be enthusiastic. Nice girl, no CIM or COF. 8/7/6
#4 MFF with Dorean and Tatiana, Croatia, late 30’s. Hard-Core Lesbian/BBBJ/Doggy/Double COF. Fantastic & Fun session with two women who seemed to enjoy what they were doing. Anything with Dorean is a GFE. 10/10
Observations & Comments:
The sheer variety of women on offer was surprising. There were older women, younger ones, blonde, brunette, red head, dark skin, light skin, small breasts, large breasts…you get the picture. If you can’t find “your” type there, “your” type ain’t human, and you could probably be a topic on a Jerry Springer show “Tonight we meet a man who can’t find a woman at an FKK” (Crowd…Ohhhh…)
The ratings are really subjective, and what I would rate a 10 you may not. One of my best mates is into the dark skin Latino women – while I am a blonde-light skin man – and we both would have found a 10 amongst the women. I would say there were 6-10’s there – again, very subjective.
The girls were not aggressive at all. I’ve experienced Cyclone, Rattlesnake, Soi Cowboy and some pretty seedy back bars in Turkey and these girls were pussycats compared to them. Some were so disinterested (the group that hung out at the foot of the stairs or those that spent most of their night on the card machines) that I wondered why they were there at all. Generally, if you said you were relaxing, or not ready, or just a polite “maybe later”, they left you alone. Most are nice enough for a chat and some small talk – but don’t waste their time.
The FKK would be great with a group of friends (or even just one friend) you could go with and share the non-girl time with. A few times I was sitting alone watching groups of friends enjoy the atmosphere and the girls, and it would be an outstanding place for that. I guess that is where it all started.
I had no problems going there on a Wednesday afternoon. It gets a lot busier later, but it was nice to get there, chill out and find my bearings without the action-charged atmosphere of later on. Plus I was able to get Dorean without waiting. Later she would be grabbed as soon as she walked into the room.
I found the shower facilities to be a little awkward. When drying yourself after a shower, there was very little room to do so between the sinks and the wall, as well as being a thoroughfare for the toilet. Also the showers that only stay on for 20 seconds are a bit annoying.
Try not to get a room on the railway tracks (10 or above I think), one of the rooms in the middle overlooking the carpark is best. Of course, there are a lot of places within the complex that you can be with a lady if that is what you want.
I did not see any significant kino action, but the girls certainly patrol that area. I only spent a few minutes in a kino. I had my eye on a nice brunette who was in the kino alone, but when I went in to sit beside her, I found out she did not speak English so that sort of put me off. A Russian guy came in and they went to the back of the Kino.
The € 70 entrance pays for itself in the long run. I was there for 9. 5 hours – so that is €7. 50 per hour. Take out the 2. 5 hours I actually spent with the girls, and that comes to € 10 an hour. For that tenner, I drank copious amounts of juice and mineral water (more than € 10 worth), had a reasonable dinner and several sessions in the sauna and pool. As well I got to look at some of the finest female flesh on the planet. And if I wanted, they were all there for me. I just needed to say the word.
There’s no need to say where I’m going tonight.
Cheers
Dogger862[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Dogger862]Overall, my first FKK experience was better than I could have hoped for. I just need to find a reason to come to Berlin again….
Comments/Questions welcome.
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Tremendous job, Dogger862! Welcome to the board; we need more people who can post like you. I put your two Artemis posts into the Distinction category. And this is a well-earned honor.
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[QUOTE=Dogger862] Apparently a man had died of a heart attack in his car on the road outside Artemis and the entrance road had been blocked for several hours [/QUOTE]
I can just picture it now...20 hot naked women dragging him to his car and pushing it out to the street. What a way to go ;-)
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Dogger862, really great report, I almost felt like being at Artemis again.
[QUOTE=Dogger862]It is a tricky dilemma to be in…do I go with one I don't know or keep going the same way. If I lived in Berlin or could get here regularly, then I would experiment. As I only had the two nights, I thought the second night’s investment was better spent on a sure fun session. That’s my choice, and others may have spent their 7 pops on 7 different girls.[/QUOTE]I agree with you, I usually try to have some sure sessions, with some “good” girl from previous days or a previous visit, above all in my last day there.
I’ll be in Artemis in 2 weeks and I’ll repeat for sure if I find Sylvana from my last report, another one that by the way doesn’t close her eyes during the session and looks at you.
I hope to bump into Dorean, also because I am a sucker for nice blue eyes and blonde hair too, but I think, despite she might be generally GFE and a good provider, that you found a special connection with her at your first visit (something like that happened to me at Palace in Frankfurt).
I didn’t use to go for kissing too, but it changed when I started visiting FKK. FKK are just something different (better).
About the group that hangs out at the foot of the stairs I guess they think they are in a strategic position since the guys can see (or admire) them from upstairs and go down to them if interested. In fact that’s what I did last time but I prefer to have some space to approach a girl and not to have to “fight” to find a place among them on that couch.
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Buck,
I envy you, going to Artemis! I hope to get back there soon. I would be very interested to hear other reports Dorean - she was something special.
Hunter,
Nice to meet you too. It may be Dubai next, or if I can arrange it, back to Berlin! I have not been back to Dubai since the Intercon at Diera Creek changed to a Raddisson, but this is my favourite hotel. The small bar immediately to the left after you enter was a great place to meet girls. I will stay there again on my next trip.
Cheers
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[QUOTE=Dogger862] It may be Dubai next,
Cheers[/QUOTE]
Hi Dogger,
I've been curious about Dubai because I heard good things and noticed sometimes flights can be under $1000US RT. Is it really good and worth the long trip?
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Hi Dogger,
In the moment I am in Cairo, checking out the fields here, but to tell you by far not comparable with Dubai.
End of May I will be again in Dubai and I also have to go to Rijadh as I told you.
Have fun, and I would be happy to see again
Hunter
[QUOTE=Dogger862]Buck,
Hunter,
Nice to meet you too. It may be Dubai next, or if I can arrange it, back to Berlin! I have not been back to Dubai since the Intercon at Diera Creek changed to a Raddisson, but this is my favourite hotel. The small bar immediately to the left after you enter was a great place to meet girls. I will stay there again on my next trip.
Cheers[/QUOTE]
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Sunday may 13rd 12-5 pm
A bit late with this report but after Berlin I went on a vacation (no mongering).
I arrived at around noon, not good weather outside.
Basically no girls around (the few ones present likely booked) but about ten guys free. At 1 pm a few more girls appeared. Not a buyer’s market at all. Then I saw a very cute brunette with blue eyes when I was walking out of the bar area.
I saw her again downstairs (she didn’t find any client upstairs) and I asked her if she had some time and I asked her to sit with me a bit on the couch. We talked a bit while touching each other, I asked her if she kissed, she said no.
Well I didn’t care that much about kissing, second her attitude was good, third I liked her face and body and then there weren’t many girls around so I asked her to go to a room.
Nikki, Polish, semi-long brown hair, 21 years old, blue eyes, face 7.5, body 8.5 (beautiful breasts and ass).
Good service, what I remember mostly is her great BBBJ. It was my first session, I was quite horny and I came quite early (not more than 15 minutes) but she didn’t run away after that and we talked for about 10 minutes.
From about 2.30 pm the ratio girls/men definetely improved from before.
Hola, Polish, long blonde hair, cute freckles, blue eyes, face 7.5, body 8.5. She didnt kiss either but good service for the rest. Good chat with her too. She is one of the girls that come to Berlin from time to time to get some money so she is not a regular at Artemis, while other polish girls stay much longer (for example to buy a house).
Victoria, Polish, blonde hair, blue eyes, quite tall, face 6.5, body 6.5. I had a session with her some month ago and I decided to repeat. GFE service (she kisses too). I also gave her a massage that she appreciated.
When I go to Artemis I seem to be in a polish branch of some kind. And this isn’t bad at all since I like the polish type, often classical blondes and their service has never been bad.
And another thing: from my experience there these polish girls speak generally at least fair english but a poorer german so it is actually better to know english rather than german with them (I don't speak german).
By the way, the polish group on the couch below the stairs seems to have returned to Poland for good (a girl told me that). Well, there was a girl there I really liked.
The only thing that bothers me a little is the 60 euro fee for a session (instead of the standard 50).
Buck
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A pilgrimage to FKK Artemis in Berlin
The story of my visit to two FKK clubs (Samya and Artemis) is continued from the Samya section ([url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=601077&postcount=54[/url])
The morning after our saturnalia at Samya, where I had received my baptism into the world of Germany's FKK clubs, we set out for Berlin and Artemis, like faithful medieval pilgrims following the road to Santiago de Compostela. But we decided not to walk and instead took the sleek, fast German ICE (Intercity Express) train. It took about 4 hours to cross the northern plains of the heart of the German homeland and we arrived in Berlin at the relatively new and ultramodern Hauptbahnhof.
Berlin is a wonderful capital city, full of history, modern architechture, prosperous looking people and interesting sights and museums. It is a city well worth visiting quite apart from the fact that it is home to FKK Artemis. Though Berlin is far from the heart of FKK country (which is in the west central and northwest part of Germany) Artemis is one of Germany's largest and most famous FKK clubs.
My friend and I spent our first evening in Berlin relaxing at a French-German restaurant located along the Spree River near the Friedrichstrasse S-Bahn station. The next evening, after a day spent touring some of the major sights of the city, we returned to the same area for a meal in a decent Italian restaurant. After dinner we mounted the steps to the Friedrichstrasse station and climbed on the S75 train (direction Spandau), heading for FKK Artemis.
It was a Sunday evening so when we hopped off the train at the Westkreuz station after a 15 minute ride, the area seemed fairly deserted. We walked out of the station and across a small parking lot towards a main road and I wondered whether it would be easy to find Artemis. Reaching the road I looked to my left and noticed a tire shop and remembered that someone had written that Artemis was located behind a tire shop. But I didn't see any building behind the tire shop so we walked a bit further and started to cross a bridge over the mainline train tracks that led back to Berlin. As we crossed the bridge I looked up like a medieval pilgrim searching the sky for the cathedral spire that would mark his destination, and I spotted a large red neon sign atop a big building: ARTEMIS. The building is only a few hundred meters from the train station. There is indeed a second tire shop right in front of it.
As with Samya, the Artemis parking lot was filled with a mix of both fine and ordinary German and other European cars. The building kind of reminded me of an American "big box" retail store. It was not very discreet. If some bible thumping or feminist anti-prostitution crusader were to be confronted with the mere sight of a megabrothel like Artemis, it might cause her to suffer a heart attack on the spot. In other words, it was exactly the kind of place I was hoping to find.
Stepping inside the building, I felt right away that the place had the feel of big American-style strip club. We approached the reception desk. In contrast to Frau Blucher of Samya, the young lady staffing the desk was an attractive, English speaking German blond. She took our 70 Euro admission (another contrast to Samya's 50 Euro fee) and explained how things worked in a somewhat impersonal manner. At least she didn't expect a tip for taking our money.
She gave each of us a robe and a wristband with two keys, one for the mini-lockers to hold valuables, which are safely located right near the main entrance, and one for a clothes locker in the spacious lockerrom that is located just behind the main entrance. The two keys folded cleverly and neatly into the wrist band that you wear during your stay. We had no concerns about the safety and accessibility of our belongings. The Germans always seem to handle such things so efficiently. In the very unlikely event that brothels like Artemis ever became legal in America, I would suggest outsourcing the management of the brothels to German trained managers.
We deposited our valuables in our mini-lockers and proceeded to the lockerroom where we undressed and put on our white cotton robes. We selected our own sandals from a big open rack just outside the lockerroom. Before heading into the main part of the club, I made a pit stop in the bathroom next to the lockerroom and I noticed that its standard of cleanliness was equal to that of a bathroom in an exclusive private country club in the U.S.--again, typically German.
Artemis is a very impressive physical space. Imagine a big, brassy multilevel strip club with lots of extra facilities typically not found in a strip club. There's a large hallway with a spiral staircase between the lockkerroom and the main room. The big room on the main level contains a bar, various seating areas with sofas and chairs, a buffet area, and a sex kino (mini porn theater). Upstairs are the 30 private rooms and downstairs are a second bar, some seating, a workout room, saunas, a pool, showers, another sex kino and several semi-private rooms. The difference in atmosphere between Samya and Artemis is like the difference between a neighborhorhood theater and one on Broadway or between a regional amusement Park and Disney World. I found I liked both, but being in club like Artemis ultimately proved to be more fantasy fulfilling for me...to be continued.
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dissappointing Artemis
My expectations were high, I have to admit, and probably that caused a disappointing effect upon my impression.
Though the outstanding facilities, the place has not a warm atmosphere and the many enhanced breasts gave me a "artificial" sensation never felt in the FRA area.
I truly can't remember the girls except AMY (ANNY?) a wonderful girl from Ethiopy with a marvelous vevet black skin and a acceptable attitude.
The other 2 girls, a bulgarian and a romanian, didn't leave me any nice sensation and I can't even remember their names.
Only remarkable thing, a nice buffet and the quality of the club facilities.
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A pilgrimage to FKK Artemis in Berlin (continued)
So the facilities at Artemis are very impressive. But what about the women? Well, we were there on a Sunday night (from about 10PM until 2:30AM) when the club seemed relatively uncrowded, but there were at least 30 girls there, maybe more. My impression was that there was a wider range of types of girls at Artemis than at the much smaller Samya Club in Cologne that we had visited on the previous Friday. I saw a couple black girls, a couple Asians, and a mix of white girls of all physical types-short and tall, slender and voluptuous, all-natural and enhanced breasts (but I only noticed a few enhanced girls), blonds and brunettes--Artemis had something for every man no matter what his tastes.
Initially, I thought that there weren't quite as many girls who were real knockouts as I had seen at Samya. But after I roamed around the place for awhile, I decided that there were actually more, but that they were just spread out in a much bigger building rather than all being packed into one room. There were a few girls that I would have definitely turned down had they been the only ones available, but only a few. My real problem, as at Samya, was which one to choose among the many who appealed to me.
After awhile I found myself standing at the main level bar next to a gorgeous, statuesque girl with long black hair and sparkling eyes. I smiled at her and she smiled back. "Wie hießen Sie?," I asked. Iveta, she said. "Ich hieße Louis," I replied when she asked me my name. "Wo her kommen Sie?," I asked, and since I was rapidly depleting my supply of essential German phrases, I mentally prepared to ask her the next key question: "Sprechen Sie Englisch?" She was from the Czech Republic and no, she did not speak English and all I could say in reply was "Ich spreche nicht Deutsch." It didn't matter. I knew I was going upstairs with her from the moment I set my eyes on her.
I managed to communicate my desire to ascend to heaven with her. I wanted to say to her "Komm gib mir deine Hand" ("I want hold your hand" ) but before I could, she smiled and took my hand and led me to the circular staircase that led to the next world. I got a nice view of her magnificent form as we mounted the stairs. She was very shapely but carried no extra pounds. She had full natural breasts, curvy hips and was nicely tanned all over. Czech women are renowned for their beauty and now a perfect specimen of the species was about to let me confirm their reputation as great lovers too.
Iveta did not disappoint me. She led me into one of the 30 private rooms that take up the 2nd level of Artemis. It was more luxurious than the simple rooms at Samya. It looked like a bedroom in, well, a brothel. It was not the largest of bedrooms but it had nice subtle lighting, a very comfortable bed, and low mirrors along one side and at the front of the bed.
Iveta directed me to lie on my back and she started me off with a long, slow BBBJ that got better and better. She performed her magic tirelessly and after awhile I signalled to her that it was enough--I didn't want to accidentally enter a point of no return during the initial stage of our lovemaking.
Since Iveta had already brought me to a state of near bliss with her oral skills, I proceeded straight to my favorite position, "la levrette," as the French call it (a "levrette" is a greyhound b*itch). That sounds so much better than "doggy style." As I entered her from behind, the perfectly positioned mirrors in the room allowed me to admire both her face and her form at the same time. I managed to hold off reaching a climax for awhile and Iveta showed plenty of stamina.
I finally tired of kneeling behind her and so I gently pushed on her back to signal a change in position. I managed to remain inside her as she lowered herself to a position of face down, flat on the bed with her legs together. This variation of la levrette is my real favorite. I renewed my efforts with increased vigor while admiring her beautiful face in the mirror. It was complete sensory overload and it didn't take long for me to reach a most satisfying climax.
Iveta might be the most beautiful woman that I've ever had the privilege of being intimate with. After cleaning up, she lay beside me for a short time and I had to pinch myself to make sure it was real. It was too bad that we couldn't communicate, but given the choice between chatting with her about world affairs or having sex with her for 30 minutes, I'm pretty sure which experience I'd choose. We went downstairs to my mini-locker and I retrieved her 60 Euro fee. Danke Schoen Danke Schoen, Iveta. She gave me a kiss and drifted off while I, now back on earth, headed for the nearby showers.
To be continued.
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FKK Artemis last month
My first visit to FKK Artemis. I've been to FKK Palace previously but haven't had the opportunity to check out other FKKs yet.
Thanks to all of the posters here on the ISG who provided lots of useful details. Some of your directions are paraphrased below.
Homepage: [url]www.fkk-artemis.de[/url]
Halenseestraße 32-36 10711 BERLIN
Phone: 0890-44410
Open: Daily 11am-5am
Entrance: 70€
Price: 60€/30min
Artemis is in the western portion of Berlin and is easy to get to by public transportation. At the Westkreuz S-Bahn station, just go left from the exit (Halenseestraße) and in 2 minutes you are there (on the left).
Or take the 19 or 29 bus down Kufurstendam Strasse to Adenaur Platz, walk 2 blocks in the direction of bus then right onto Halenseestraße for <10 mins or 0.3 miles according to Mapquest. It's on the right along the highway between 2 overpasses.
I think that this might be the most expensive FKK experience in Germany now, but the facilities are all very new and clean, as are the SPs.
The weak U.S. dollar doesn't help either. I wish I knew about the German FKKs back when the exchange rate was the reverse of its current state.
The club is spread out over 4 floors with some outdoor areas that were too cold to venture out to.
The main floor has the locker and shower facilities along with the main bar/lounge, a movie room, and a dining room.
Non-alcoholic drinks are free and alcoholic drinks can be purchased with tokens - I didn't indulge so don't know the prices.
Downstairs is the healthclub, or so it seems. There is a pool, hot tubs, sauna roooms, an exercise room, a tanning room, access to the outdoor areas plus another bar / lounge and movie room. There's also some private rooms with curtains rather than doors. Massages are available near the pool, but only with male masseurs if that's your thing.
It ain't mine, so I don't know what that costs.
The second floor (first floor in the European system) has around 20 private rooms while the top floor is a dorm for the ladies.
I'll get to the more interesting stuff in my next post.
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FKK Artemis Day 1
I was at Artemis for 3 nights and spent time with a total of 9 SPs. As others have mentioned, the club is large, new and very, very clean.
I'll end each mini-review with my notes on each SP. Nights 2 & 3 will follow when I have a chance to write them up.
Night 1:
After walking around the club for a while trying to figure out where things were, I sat at the main bar and watched the proceedings. Some of the girls would approach customers, but they weren't rude or persistant. It was easy to politely shoo them off, including one girl who approached and immediately said "Want to fuck?" in English. I don't know how she figured out I was an anglophone - it couldn't have been from what I was wearing. I had even ordered my drink in German.
After returning to the bar from a brief trip to the toilet, I sat next to a pretty brunette and her blond, German, Cameron Diaz-lookalike, friend who I had seen walking around earlier. Unfortunately Cameron Diaz was speaking to a guy on her right (never did have a session with her - next time), but her brunnette friend smiled and said hello. She didn't speak much English, but I was looking to get the night started, so we went upstairs to a room.
The 30 min session with Salome was GFE (as were all of my sessions this trip) and well worth the 60 Euro. She was the only SP I met there who didn't speak much English, but it hardly mattered.
Salame: Portugese, early to mid 20s, 5'6", 125, B cup, black hair, dark skin (Brazilian?), very pretty face, good shape except stomach not tight, very little English, dfk, bbbj offered. A smoker but then they all seemed to be smokers.
Next up after some food and recuperation was Emma, an absolutely beautiful Slovakian brunette. She wasn't really socializing with many of the other SPs and was a bit shy - I approached her as soon as I saw her. If the women in Slovakia are as pretty as Emma and some of the other Slovakians I saw at Artemis, I really need to visit. She was tall and thin, tight all over, with long black hair and small breasts - a tall spinner. We spent some time on one of the couches kissing with her had inside my robe before getting a room. I spent a fun-filled hour with Emma.
Emma: Slovakian, 20, 5'8", 115, A cup, long black hair, tanned skin, tight dancers body, lfk, bbbj offered.
After this I needed some time to relax. I thought I'd go downstairs for a massage, but found out they only had male masseurs. Not my cup of tea, so I found a comfortable couch and thought I'd zone out watching tv for a while. Except there aren't any televisions that I noticed. Instead I watched the occasional stripper pole dance and observed the scene.
Earlier in the evening, just after finishing up with Salome, I had chatted for a while with a mulatto girl (Germany/Ghana) named Ayesha who spoke excellant English. After having relaxed for a while on a couch on the main floor, I took another jaunt around the club. I walked thru the downstairs kino and saw Ayesha sitting there alone with a German blond named Stephi (not Cameron Diaz) in the empty room watching bad Euro-porn. I didn't know if I had anything left that night, but I sat with them anyway. After a while they started pushing for the duo, and it was hard to resist, especially with both of them kissing me and each having a hand in my robe. It seemed that I did have something left after all
We went upstairs to a room and the fun continued. I didn't opt for the full lesbian show which seemed steep at 60 x 2 x 2 = 240 for what I think would have been 30 mins. The standard duo was 60 x 2 = 120 for 30 mins. I loved the two-tongue bj, and they kissed each other anyway. We started with Stephi riding cowgirl while Ayeshi and I dfk'd. She requested daty, but I don't do that with SPs and had to decline. After several position changes and a change of condoms, I finished with Ayesha riding cowgirl while she and Stephi dfk'd. I guess they like each other
Ayesha: Ghana/Germany, 23, 5'6", 120, B cups, mulatto, dark hair w/highlights, darkish skin, dfk, bbbj offered, daty requested, very good English
Stephi: Germany (Hamburg), 27, 5'8", 135, C cup, blond, dfk, bbbj offered, basic English.
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A pilgrimage to FKK Artemis in Berlin (continued)
I had been listening to Bob Dylan on my iPod recently and once in the shower, the words of some Dylan songs started playing in my head.
Lay, lady, lay, lay across my big brass bed
Stay, lady, stay, stay while the night is still ahead
I long to see you in the morning light
I long to reach for you in the night
Stay, lady, stay, stay while the night is still ahead
After my shower I was reunited with my friend on the main level. He had enjoyed his own successful tryst while I was enjoying my private heaven with Iveta. As at Samya, he had selected a nice German blonde. He liked her, but not as much as Leslie at Samya. Moving to the bar, we drank water while scanning some of the sexy seductresses of Artemis who were gathered at and around the bar area. I spoke briefly with a sultry looking Lithuanian, but her approach was too direct and I brushed her off. Not yet ready for another go-round, I suggested to my friend that we go downstairs to try out the pool. It was my first skinny dip in a long time.
Yes, my guard stood hard when abstract threats
Too noble to neglect
Deceived me into thinking
I had something to protect
Good and bad, I define these terms
Quite clear, no doubt, somehow.
Ah, but I was so much older then,
I'm younger than that now.
The cool refreshing waters helped to revive me and get me ready for round 2. I split up with my friend to make it easier to go on the prowl. Having satisfied my lust for a black-haired beauty with Iveta, I now focused on the blondes of Artemis, of which there were quite a few.
Staying on the downstairs level, I avoided the girls crowded around the bar—too hard to choose among them. I walked towards the back of the room where there were some couches and chairs and where the downstairs sex kino is located. Then I saw her. She was a pretty blonde wrapped in a towel lying on a couch all by herself. She looked somewhat tired and appeared to be ready for a late-night siesta. But she smiled at me as I passed by and her eyes sparkled like stars in the sky. I was instantly attracted to her.
Throw my ticket out the window,
Throw my suitcase out there, too,
Throw my troubles out the door,
I don't need them any more
'Cause tonight I'll be staying here with you.
I greeted her in German and knelt beside her hoping to find that we would share a common language. She was Polish, called herself Angie, and spoke German effortlessly. However, she could understand only a little English and speak only a few words of it. Parlez-vous français?, I asked her, hoping to find a different common language. She laughed at me as if that were a ridiculous notion, and sadly, it probably was.
Nevertheless, rather than feel disheartened by my discovery that we did not share a common language, I felt even more attracted to her. Despite our being able to communicate at only a very basic level, I was captivated by her cheerful manner and charming face. She laughed easily and smiled at me as if she welcomed me disturbing her repose. Tired? Sleep? I asked her. Nein, nein she protested. So I conveyed my desire to spend some time with her and she readily accepted.
I don't want to straight-face you,
Race or chase you, track or trace you,
Or disgrace you or displace you,
Or define you or confine you.
All I really want to do
Is, baby, be friends with you.
As she stood up I could see she was very much my type physically. She was curvaceous but not overweight, just very womanly. I decided that it would be fun to try something a little different with Angie so rather mount the stairs to the private rooms two levels above us, I led her towards the nearby sex kino.
Not a word was spoke between us, there was little risk involved
Everything up to that point had been left unresolved.
Try imagining a place where it's always safe and warm.
"Come in," she said,
"I'll give you shelter from the storm."
We sat on a couch in the darkened mini-theater where a porn video played continuously on the screen. I put my arm around Angie and drew her close to me. She allowed her towel to slip down and reveal her appealing, natural breasts and I quickly focused my attention on them. She reached down, loosened my robe and began to caress my manhood. She acted very affectionate towards me, cooing and murmuring in my ear and offering soft kisses first on my neck and cheek, then on my lips.
On a night like this
So glad you've come to stay
Hold on to me, pretty miss
Say you'll never go away to stray.
Run your fingers down my spine
Bring me a touch of bliss
It sure feels right
On a night like this.
While I would have enjoyed carrying on like this indefinitely, I decided that we should move the action to one of the semi-private rooms near the sex kino. These rooms have walls that don’t rise all the way to the ceiling and curtains instead of a door. Like starting off in the sex kino, using one of these rooms satisfied my desire to experience something just a little kinkier than retiring to a private room.
Close your eyes, close the door,
You don't have to worry any more.
I'll be your baby tonight.
Shut the light, shut the shade,
You don't have to be afraid.
I'll be your baby tonight.
Angie directed me to lie on my back and she proceeded to perform an expert and energetic BBBJ that would have qualified her to be a member of the Polish national team in the Sexual Olympics (were such a thing to exist). I signaled to her to move to the next phase and she brought out a condom to prepare for the third and final phase of our encounter. Unfortunately in the darkness of the room, she fumbled a bit with the condom while trying to fit it on me. It seemed too small to fit me comfortably (maybe it was on of those smaller, microthin Japanese condoms that feel great but can be hard to get on sometimes).
Finally, as much as I wanted to experience her body in the most intimate way, we abandoned our efforts and I directed her to lie on her back while I knelt over her. Still well aroused from her outstanding BBBJ, it didn’t take me long to bring myself to a climax on her beautiful breasts.
Knock, knock, knockin' on heaven's door
Knock, knock, knockin' on heaven's door
Knock, knock, knockin' on heaven's door
Knock, knock, knockin' on heaven's door
After cleaning up, we lay beside each other for the few remaining minutes of the session and speaking to her in English as simply as I could, I told her how much I had enjoyed her company and how much I liked her. She seemed to understand my appreciation of her and smiled brightly at me and kissed me. I squeezed her hand and told her that I hoped that our paths would cross again one day, though I knew that was not likely to happen.
I'm walkin' down that long, lonesome road, babe
Where I'm bound, I can't tell
But goodbye's too good a word, gal
So I'll just say fare thee well
...to be concluded.
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A pilgrimage to FKK Artemis in Berlin (conclusion)
i went upstairs with angie and fetched her 60 euro fee from my mini locker. i handed the money over, said adieu, kissed her on both cheeks and then headed for the showers. among the four girls i had seen so far in germany, she was undoubtedly my favorite.
after my shower i rejoined my friend at the bar on the lower level where he had been relaxing in a lounge chair next to the pool. it was rather late now, sometime around 2am. i was wondering whether the s-bahn still runs at this late hour. the attractive bartender spoke english but she didn't know for sure whether the westkreuz station was still open and the trains were running so late on a sunday night. (while talking with her i was asking myself: "hmm, i wonder what she looks like naked?"). she thought maybe they ran until 4am. artemis is open until 5am every night.
i was in no hurry to leave, but i knew i wouldn't be ready for another session for awhile. so my friend and i reluctantly decided that it was best to head for the exit. as we walked towards the stairs i glanced down at a sweet-looking girl lying naked on a lounge chair. she caught me staring at her and smiled and said hello. it would have been impolite not to stop and chat, so i told my friend to wait a second.
she was a cute german blonde who called herself janie and she spoke english well. she said she was thinking of heading home too and was just resting for a few minutes. i couldn't help but notice what a nice body she had. at that moment i felt the presence of an imaginary little red devil on my shoulder whispering in my ear: "go for it you fool, take her upstairs right now." but another apparition, this one an angel, appeared on my other shoulder, telling me, "you've had enough, you're too tired and it's too late. better leave now."
as the little devil and angel continued their debate in my mind, i moved next to the chair that janie was lying on and kept the conversation with her going. i asked her what the deal was with the two guys who had been giving massages (to both clients and girls) all evening on tables set up near the pool. professional masseurs, she told me, and they were good. "i'll take your word for it," i said, "but what i'd really like is a massage from a girl. do any of the girls give massages?" "i can do that," she said.
i wanted just a massage to finish off the night. i wanted to end the evening without exerting myself, just feeling the soft, relaxing touch of a pretty girl. i asked janie if she could do it right now before we both left and she said sure. i left my friend by the pool where he planned to take a nap and went upstairs with janie. janie disappeared for a minute and returned holding a bottle of massage lotion.
we mounted the stairs to the top level and, to my amazement at 2:30am on a monday morning, the keys to all thirty private rooms were in use. but a moment later, one of the cleaning staff appeared and replaced a few of the keys, signaling that those rooms were available. janie grabbed a key and led me down the hall to nice room.
janie was not a trained massage therapist, but she did a good job. it was nice to talk with her, hear about her life and feel her gentle touch. i could have easily fallen asleep right there. of course, i did get aroused by her and at one point she asked me, "are you sure you don't want sex?" now i wasn't sure, but i finally decided to let the evening wind down in the mellow fashion that i had chosen. i was finally ready to leave. as i walked back downstairs with janie, the words of an old song called "time passages" came to mind:
well the picture is changing
now you're part of a crowd
they're laughing at something
and the music's loud
a girl comes towards you
you once used to know
you reach out your hand
but you're all alone, in these
time passages
i know you're in there, you're just out of sight
time passages
buy me a ticket on the last train home tonight
after paying janie and showering, i found my friend asleep in a lounge chair by the pool. i nudged him awake and we returned to the locker room to change. we headed out the door at about 3:15am. there were several taxis waiting outside, but thinking that the s-bahn was still running, we walked to the station. arriving there, we found it closed and so we walked back to artemis and hopped in a cab. for 20 euros, the cab sped through the mostly deserted streets of berlin and deposited us at our hotel.
lying in bed that night, i reflected on my experience. what a civilized place artemis is, i thought. throughout recorded history, some women have always exchanged sex for money with men. it's part of virtually every human society today and in the past. why not accept this fact and provide a civilized, clean, comfortable environment where such transactions among adults can occur in a natural way. for me, the fkk club is the best model that i have come across for handling the institution of prostitution. if you've already experienced it, then you know what i mean; and if you haven't yet experienced it, then i highly recommend it.
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[QUOTE=Chercherfemmes]My first visit to FKK Artemis. I've been to FKK Palace previously but haven't had the opportunity to check out other FKKs yet.
Thanks to all of the posters here on the ISG who provided lots of useful details. Some of your directions are paraphrased below.
Homepage: [url]www.fkk-artemis.de[/url]
Halenseestraße 32-36 10711 BERLIN
Phone: 0890-44410
Open: Daily 11am-5am
Entrance: 70€
Price: 60€/30min
Artemis is in the western portion of Berlin and is easy to get to by public transportation. At the Westkreuz S-Bahn station, just go left from the exit (Halenseestraße) and in 2 minutes you are there (on the left).
Or take the 19 or 29 bus down Kufurstendam Strasse to Adenaur Platz, walk 2 blocks in the direction of bus then right onto Halenseestraße for <10 mins or 0.3 miles according to Mapquest. It's on the right along the highway between 2 overpasses.
I think that this might be the most expensive FKK experience in Germany now, but the facilities are all very new and clean, as are the SPs.
The weak U.S. dollar doesn't help either. I wish I knew about the German FKKs back when the exchange rate was the reverse of its current state.
The club is spread out over 4 floors with some outdoor areas that were too cold to venture out to.
The main floor has the locker and shower facilities along with the main bar/lounge, a movie room, and a dining room.
Non-alcoholic drinks are free and alcoholic drinks can be purchased with tokens - I didn't indulge so don't know the prices.
Downstairs is the healthclub, or so it seems. There is a pool, hot tubs, sauna roooms, an exercise room, a tanning room, access to the outdoor areas plus another bar / lounge and movie room. There's also some private rooms with curtains rather than doors. Massages are available near the pool, but only with male masseurs if that's your thing.
It ain't mine, so I don't know what that costs.
The second floor (first floor in the European system) has around 20 private rooms while the top floor is a dorm for the ladies.
I'll get to the more interesting stuff in my next post.[/QUOTE]
Don't expect the US dollar to make a comeback, its days as the world's dominant reserve currency are numbered. Still the quality and price makes 60EUR nothing. Ever been to Vegas, the brothels outside are ridiculously overpriced.
[url]http://www.thinkandask.com/news/thedollar.html[/url] Here is why the US Dollar is going to fall in value. Look at last year's election results, with the softening of US foreign policy and subsequent pullout from Iraq, this is going to have a devastating effect on the US economy.
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I visited the Artemis Club recently - it was fantastic - like in the movies. I licked one nice pussy - I would like to do it again. Does anyone know if the girls at Artemis are tested for HIV and STD? What's the chance of catching HIV from licking the girls?
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Artemis
Thanks to all the forum members who have previously posted on Artemis. I had a very enjoyable time recently. I spent a total of five evenings there over a two-week period. During that time I had sex with over 25 different girls. Location and price exactly as mentioned in the forum. If you take the S-bahn to Halensee, you should expect a 10-15 minute walk from the station. Turn left once you leave the station. Cross to the other side of the street, so that you will run into Halenese. Turn right onto Halensee (a very large street) and walk until you reach Artemis on your right, about 10 minutes down the hill along the street.
Prices as follows:
70E entrance (includes everything, except alcoholic drinks, sex with girls, and massage at wellness area)
60E/30 minutes with girl
50E additional if you want to CIM
100E for anal
Double with lesbian show available, but I did not partake due to concerns for rip-off (prices really can escalate if you are not careful)
The club is open everyday from 11AM to 5 AM
With that said, I perhaps had one of the consistently best sexual experiences using this club (my first FKK experience). After sex with 25+ different girls, I feel that I had a good sense of the providers and club.
The majority of the girls are very attractive. I am a tough grader, but I was easily able to find lots of girls in the 8 range. Definitely some 9’s, I did not really see a clear 10. Most evenings there were at least 40-50 girls. As a previous poster mentioned, if you cannot find your type here-your type doesn’t exist-was square on. To my delight, there were lots of young trim blond girls. Most of the girls were between 21-28 years old. All speak some English. The girls come from all over the world. I met girls from Germany (a few), Ukraine, Romania, Poland (lots), Russia, Turkey, Brazil, and Venezuela. In general, the majority of girls are white, with 3 black girls, and one Thai girl. The girls rotate to other clubs, so that after two weeks, over 90% of the girls were different. All the girls walk around naked so you will never be surprised at your physical choice in the room.
On service, all girls provided oral without condom. Intercourse with condom was standard. All girls allowed DATY. Most girls (but not all) permitted kissing on the mouth, and at least half of my choices were very passionate kissers (a real treat for me, since I like to kiss). About 20% of the time I had a GFE with the girls, and during those times I would extend the 30 minutes into one hour. Only three times did I have just a mechanical experience. All but two or three permitted rimming to be performed on them (something I have grown to like as I have gotten older and crazier). Most girls have breast implants. Most girls are shaved. All of the girls were ball lickers and really quite skilled in providing blow jobs.
Artemis is a big club with three active floors. Other German men told me that it is considered one of the best and they liked its somewhat understated approach. That is, none of the girls was ever aggressive, and all were very respectful of your space. Now with that said, if you looked at a girl, gave her some eye contact, she would likely come over to you and ask if you would like to go with her to a room. So, easy to score even if you are very shy! I liked the wellness area and the dining. Food is available most of the time for lunch and dinner (included in the entrance fee). They have a couple of video machines which the girls loved. Sometimes I had to drag a girl away from the machine to have sex with her. They have hired dancers later in the night to dance on the pole and in the cage (not available for sex). The kino area is kind of anticlimactic with the real thing all around, but may suit some tastes (that is, a number of couches and a screen with porno). Sometimes the girls prowl along these areas.
The downside: common shower areas and actual shower water only lasting 20-30 seconds. You need to keep pushing a knob to take a shower; no toothbrushes (compared to brazilian termas)
I wish I had more to offer the forum. This place was outstanding and I would recommend to anyone. I think that I will be coming back to Germany to explore FKK places again. Please ask me questions and I will be happy to respond!
Ak233
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[QUOTE=Ak233]With that said, I perhaps had one of the consistently best sexual experiences using this club (my first FKK experience). After sex with 25+ different girls, I feel that I had a good sense of the providers and club.
The majority of the girls are very attractive. I am a tough grader, but I was easily able to find lots of girls in the 8 range. Definitely some 9’s, I did not really see a clear 10. Most evenings there were at least 40-50 girls. As a previous poster mentioned, if you cannot find your type here-your type doesn’t exist-was square on. To my delight, there were lots of young trim blond girls. Most of the girls were between 21-28 years old. All speak some English. The girls come from all over the world. I met girls from Germany (a few), Ukraine, Romania, Poland (lots), Russia, Turkey, Brazil, and Venezuela. In general, the majority of girls are white, with 3 black girls, and one Thai girl. Ak233
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Thanks for your nice report. But, hey, it would be really helpfull if you could provide some specific details of some specific girls. Any names and descriptions stand out from your multi-night, 25-girl survey?
Thanks,
Ortos
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[QUOTE=CBGBConnisur]Here is why the US Dollar is going to fall in value. Look at last year's election results, with the softening of US foreign policy and subsequent pullout from Iraq, this is going to have a devastating effect on the US economy.[/QUOTE]
OK, first of all, discussion of US politics has no place on this forum. As for the validity of your claims, I beg to differ. Everybody can make their own conclusions on US foreign policy.
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Ortos,
I was pretty good with the girls' names when I was there, and most of the girls remembered my name, too! But most really did rotate out and it was hard to keep up.
The very first girl I had looked like my old girlfriend! Beautiful blond EMMA from Poland gave above average performance (7/10). She is trim, with a lean stomach and a "9" face. She is rather flat-chested compared to all the other enhanced beauties. I sessioned with her twice. She said she likes to get to know her "clients. " The only thing she did not allow was kissing on the mouth, but all my other dreams were fulfilled. She was very direct and spoke excellent English. She is not going to be your typical "sweet" girl, there is certainly a degree of professionalism, but she is certainly nice enough, and the second time was even better than the first. No tattoos.
Sadly, you must avoid ALEX, a disenchanted girl, blond, with a bit of a harsh look about her. Great body, breast enhanced. She was quite mechanical, no kissing to my recollection, with main goal just to "get me off. " I even chatted with her for a couple days before sessioning with her, and still she performed just like a machine. The following day some sense must have come to her, as she said, "I think yesterday you did not have a good time. Maybe we try again? " Perhaps this was a belated apology, but I just replied "No, everything was okay. " She did not seem to get much business, just sitting at the bar. She really could stand to smile a bit more. I think she had a tramp stamp.
ALICIA from Poland was a doll. Tall, softer look, athletic build, blond with shoulder length hair. Now this girl walked all over the club, smiling, and sweet. Her English is not that good, but passable. She was very funny. The next day she walks by and says "Maybe you want to lick my ass some more? " Also, stuff like, "how many girls you sex today? " "Three, " I say. "Oh, I am sex with five. " I definitely would have repeated with her if I had more time. No tattoos.
MARIA? A black girl from Venezuela (one of only about three black girls in the club). She was a sex superstar, banging away at about 10 guys per night (shit! That's about five more times than I can manage and she earns a lot more in a day than I do). She is built to fuck. Tall, also athletic, a very attractive face, killer body. She now wears braces (she was very proud to show them off). Went with her twice. Both times she said to me "you are my favorite tonight. " She kissed willingly, but deep French kissing was not something she did. However, she really wanted me to ENJOY myself. I was able to do anything I wanted with her body. She did not rush, and worked with me to get me to orgasm. She was my last girl at Artemis. Attitude 10/10. Skill 9/10.
I am certainly a cad in that I cannot remember the many girls who provided a true GFE. I had many sessions with kissing and tenderness. I like that type of session. Most of the girls were quite surprised at my approach. I got the impression that many of the men are just fucking them hard and getting off, sort of a trophy fuck. I actually like women, and like to have a shared sexual experience with them. All the girls seemed to be reasonably nice people. I liked visiting with them and learning a bit about their countries of origin. I always asked about their families, etc.
Cheers! Ak233
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Saturday july 14th
I came at Artemis with the idea of relaxing for a long time, after having a frenetic working week.
In fact I was there from 12.30 to 21.30 (nine hours)
One can say that the facilities don’t count and only girls count. Well girls are of course the first thing but very good facilities are important to me if I want to pass a long relaxing day (if I stay only a few hours it doesn’t make much of a difference).
Example, if you compare the 50 entry fee for Samya in Cologne, I think the 70 euros for Artemis are better spent. Then the number of the girls is much higher and there are some real beauties. Well the price for 30 minutes is 60 but I still think it's worth it. The facilities here are also better than Palace in Frankfurt.
I’d also say the average service of the ladies at Artemis is higher than at Palace, even if at Samya is maybe still higher (I’m only judging from my own experiences, that are not numbers to make reliable statistics).
If at Samya girls don’t approach you and if at Palace they can be very “aggressive”, I think Artemis is a sort of mediation of the 2 styles.
And if you like blue-eyed blondes like me, here you can find a lot of them (due to the position of Berlin I guess). While at Palace there are a lot of romanian girls, here there are a lot of polish girls (more blonde, more beautiful IMO).
Regarding the girls this Saturday, well, lucky me, this was a buyers’ day. Lot of girls, less men, many beautiful blondes.
1. Valentina, Lithuania, long blond hair, blue eyes, sort of strong (but cute) face, nice to talk to (good english).
I’ve seen her both in febraury and in may and she was one of my “candidates” then. This time I went for her. I sat at the cinema on the bottom floor, I saw her, and I made it clear to her I wanted to have her seat near me. We talked a bit and wen upstairs. Face 7, body 7.5, service I’d say 7/10, kiss (not deep), BBBJ, DATY and FUCK.
2. Christina, Russia, long brown hair, brown eyes, very cute face (I love freckles!), with a big blue necklace, she speaks a bit of english, she speaks italian better. Face 8, body 6.5, service I’d say 7/10, always with a smile, kiss (not deep), blowjob covered (but it tasted good anyway, also because she was good at licking my balls), DATY and fuck. She’s been at Artemis for a year now.
3. I repeated with Valentina, the service was better this time (the girls must appreciate the repeated thing, like finding a fixed customer that when he goes there he goes to her too, in fact later she approached me only to talk), I’d say 8.5/10.
I’ll be back for sure to pass another full relaxing day :)
Buck
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[QUOTE=Ak233] Location and price exactly as mentioned in the forum. If you take the S-bahn to Halensee, you should expect a 10-15 minute walk from the station. Turn left once you leave the station. Cross to the other side of the street, so that you will run into Halenese. Turn right onto Halensee (a very large street) and walk until you reach Artemis on your right, about 10 minutes down the hill along the street.[/QUOTE]Ak233, Thank you very much for your detailed reports. I visited this club a couple of nights in June and I agree it is a very nice place.
I would like to make you aware of the fact that there is a station called Westkreuz almost outside the club which would be more convenient saving you 15 minutes walking :)
You can also (from the Halensee stop) cross the street and walk 20-30 meters to the left to the street Kronprinzendamm and walk down this street. After a few minutes you are on the Halensee again but just 2 minutes from Artemis (walk to the right).
On the street Kronprinzendamm you can also find a nice hotel "Kronprinz" which I would recommend to anyone visiting Berlin. The walk from this hotel to Artemis is no more than 5 minutes if you follow my directions.
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Anyone know best place for 18 YO's?
Really looking for super model types, with clean, non cheesy atmosphere, any tips anyone?
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18 years olds are overrated
[QUOTE=Maserati888]Really looking for super model types, with clean, non cheesy atmosphere, any tips anyone?[/QUOTE]
I have met lots of 18 year olds and they are not very good despite what you would think.
A chick who is about 21 or so is at her prime when she is in this profession. 18 year olds don't know what they are doing.
By the time she's got a few years under her belt, she's got the hang of it and knows how to please a guy.
But don't underestimate older, more experienced women either.
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Thanks Jackyo
Yes you are correct, how about 21yr olds that look like 18yr old, skin, face.
Which place do you recommend for Berlin.
Also, what is the starting time for when the girls go on shift?
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Your best bet in Berlin..
[QUOTE=Maserati888]Yes you are correct, how about 21yr olds that look like 18yr old, skin, face.
Which place do you recommend for Berlin.[/QUOTE]
.. is Artemis.
I've never been but from all accounts it is the largest club, has the best facilities and selection.
The only club I've been to there is La Folie which is a lot smaller. From what I've been reading, Artemis has the upper hand though.
There are a lot of choices in the [i]Hauptstadt[/i]. There is a very active [i]Wohnungspuff[/i] scene, a very well developed [i]Strassenstrich[/i] scene and an intensive network of [i]Sexkinos[/i].
There is more under the Berlin thread of the Germany section.
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[QUOTE=Maserati888]Yes you are correct, how about 21yr olds that look like 18yr old, skin, face.
Which place do you recommend for Berlin.
Also, what is the starting time for when the girls go on shift?[/QUOTE]Maserati888,
I've been to Artemis a couple of times and I would say that if you go to Artemis on let's say Friday or Saturday, specially during the evening/night you will probably find the largest selection. Keep in mind that this is also the most busy time but your taste seem to be extremely specific so perhaps this is your best option.
From my experience during my visits to Artemis (June 2007, Sep 2006) you will probably find a few girls that meets your criteria. I have also been to Artemis during weekdays (Mon, Tues) and they always have girls for every taste.
If you've never been to a FKK club before you will have a great time and be totally amazed of the facilities they got at Artemis. You will get a great memory that lasts a very long time.
Sometimes I try other girls that not usually meets my normal taste (considering looks) and I often end up having a great time. We all need variation. :)
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Artemis - Berlin Wednesday 01.08.2007 11.45 - 17.00
Logistics
Arriving: Early morning plane (Sterling) from Copenhagen to Berlin - Tegel. Bus from Tegel to Zoo station (app. 15 min.) then got breakfast and wandered
about a bit waiting for Artemis to open. S-Bahn from Zoo to Westkreuz.
Leaving: S-Bahn from Westkreuz to Schönefeld. Evening plane (Easyjet) from Berlin SCönefeld to Copenhagen.
Total time on the go 16 hours; Total price: 1400 DKK (~187€) for plane tickets, and app. 5€ in public transportation. The plane tickets could have been cheaper (less than half price) but they were ordered less than a week in advance.
Getting there and describing the facilities have been previously described to a detail level so high that I was able to find my way around the place, let alone find the place, with no problems whatsoever, so I will save the sapce for observation made on the day..
The Setup
As it was a wednesday and I arrived quite early, I did not expect a big crowd, and indeed there wasn't.
I arrived around 11.45, 45 min. after opening. Wednesday is "underway day" so th girls were all more or less dressed, most af them in bikini style close, but some in see through dresses or other imaginative intepretations of the concept.
The visit
I arrived, got my key, undressed, showered (Damn those 20 sec. showers!) and went to take a look a the facilities. Upstair 3 girls were present, downstairs only 1 girl was present in the wellness area. No girls could be seen in the downstairs kino but at least 1 if not 2 could be heard as they were getting a good going through in the enclosures close by (moaning and repeated butt-slapping was clearly audible).
Upstairs again in the restaurant a further 3 girls were having breakfast. About the same total number of guys could be observed. I decided to follow the girls example and get some breakfast.
A brief note on the breakfast buffet: Available from 11-15 and about the style and level of a medium hotel.
At breakfast I observed the only true black girl available, and decided that even though she was a little heavy set, I would want to have a go at her, sadly due to bad timing and an older guy hugging her for hours, I never got the chance.
I went downstairs to relax a bit before getting my nerves down with first girl of the day. Again a small note, at this time my body was spinning with adrenaline. allways when I visit these places I get an extreme adrenaline rush and today was no exception.
I then went to the downstairs cinema and sat down. another guy was sitting on one of the other couches jerking off. The black girl from breakfast came in after me, but she immideately adressed the guy telling him, that he couldn't sit there taking care of himself and then proceeded to give him BBBJ. As it probably would take some time, I decided to leave the cinema.
One of the Bleach League (my made up name for the day for the group of more or less naturally blonde girls from Eastern Europe, that seem to be all over this place) caught me at the foot of the staircase. She asked if I wanted to have sex with her, but the conversation, got a little awkward as the rest of the Bleach League was collected at the couch overhearing the excange of words. I did want to get things started and decided to take her up on her offer.
She asked where we should go and I accepted her offer of going to the Kino. The black girl had left but one or two other guys were present. I have never had sex in public before so I wondered how the litlle soldier would stand for the pressure but the ammased exitement in my body countered that problem:
1. Emilia, 25, Slovakia. Blond hair dyed red. Fair skin, normal build, C-Cup. Started with BJ in the Kino (Not true BBBJ, though), Proceeded to cowgirl in several variations. On to doggy over the couch, where I could see another guy getting a BJ. Apparently it wasn't that comfortable for Emilia though as she pushed me out to change positions. Unfortunately I came in the same moment, I did however do her a little in missionary before declaring to be finished.
Emilia did an OK job, no kissing and no BBBJ did pull it down. Furthermore, due to the underwear, I discovered too late that her nipples were not to my liking. I would rate her a 7 in both body and performance (doing it in the Kino is an Experience!)
More resting, including a small poolside nap. I found out that the lying chairs are very good, both comfortable and give a good view of the downstairs wellness area.
I sat up my basecamp in the basement as it was most comfortable. The girls seemed to move around so that sometimes there would be a lot downstairs and sometimes most would be upstairs. I preferred the downstairs as I felt the upstairs environment was more designed for "making the sale".
This wednesday there would be about 10 girls to start with, rising to about 20 around 16-17h. An equal number of men were there as well and simple mathematics would then say that it wasn't a buyers market. But I beg to differ, as most of the men will spend a lot of time chatting among themselves, relaxing and using the wellness.
After relaxing I decided to look for the black girl, but just as I located her, and was about to get up she left with an older gentleman. Hmmm, so much for the idea of sampling some black p*ssy. I stayed in my comfortable chair a little longer as I scouted out other opportunities.
In the end it was narrowed down to a small turkish looking girl (whom I later talked to and wrote off, not my type) and a darkskinned girl I caught a glimpse of downstairs, I noted that she wore a turquoise dress. I went upstairs and located "the girl with the turquoise dress" she turned out to be not English speaking.
This was most unfortunate as my German is almost non-existing. She said however that se was from Brazil and since i do speak Spanish we could all of a sudden have a conversation. After some smalltalk I ended the conversation with a "vamos arriva?" (Let's go upstairs?) and so we did. When she jumped down the barstool I got a small chock. She was allmost as tall as me (I am an average 1.8m give or take a few) . It turned out however that her 15 cm heels did their part!
2. Solange [so-lang-sch] (not sure about the spelling), 28, Brazilian, tall dark skinned, classic Brazilian in everyway, even down to the slightly larger forehead. Her 28 years did show naturally on her body but no complaints here. B-C Cup. We went into room nr. 1: 1001. Nights, and boy are those mirros well-placed! Solange started out with pulling up a small vial and spraying in her mouth. My first thought was WTF! disinfectant? But it turned out to be mouth spray and she offered me some, which I accepted for which she thanked me with a deep french kiss.
Now, normally kissing with SPs is not really my thing, but she made it a natural part of the game. BBBJ-DFK, Missionary-DFK, Doggy-DFK and back to missionary-DFK for the finale.
I must say that having sex with Solange is about the best round I have had for many years! She was energetic, lively, passionate and everything a girls should be. A true GFE. Solange gets an 8 for body but a 10+ for perfomance.
Finding Solange had taken a little longer than planned on my schedule, and I was totaly exhausted, so I wondered if I should call it a day. I showered but decided to take a last shot a finding the black girl after resting up for a while. On my way down the stairs another darkskinned girl, tried to catch me, but I was still shaking from Solanges treatment so i had to schooe her off.
After the mandatory reconstitution (cofee and cigarettes, followed by mineral water and more cigarettes) I set out to find the black girl, I had seen her when I came out of the shower but the Brazilian experience made it necesary with some relaxing. In the end I found her in the downstairs bar, but she was engaged in conversation with the older gentleman from earlier.
Remebering that the girl who stopped me on the stairs spoke English, I decided to seek her out. I was under some timepressure, and honestly I wasn't really sure if I had any amo left in the magazine, but I figured it wouldn't hurt trying.
Another concern was that the session with Solange was so good that I was certain it couldn't be topped and should one not allways stop at the top?
Anyway I had spotted my prey at one of the sofas in the upstairs area. She was talking to Solange and someone else. Anyway, I swept in, sat down in front of her and introduced myself. Her response was: So now you have come to f*ck me, these last two words were formed by her mouth more than said, but the two other girls and myself all got the point and everybody laughed when I grinning said "yes".
Upstairs, once again, and in to room number 3. Formalities such as "name" and "where are you from" were taken care of on the stairs on the way. Not the best way to warm up a girl, but I was working under a deadline! I decided to play honest with her and told her that she was the last one of the day, so she should leave a good impression. She took evrything in stride and certantly did her best!
3. Patricia, 24, Brazilian. Actually a younger firmer version of Solange. She did not have one extra gram of fat on her body. Breasts were nice and firm with big, hard, nipples and small to no cups. A B-cup I would say. Patricia had a very differnt style, she did the whole "talk dirty" thing, which I don't find that turning on, but she did it good and she didn't overplay it too much. She did however have a smiling goodhumored way about her that was very positive.
Very, Very good BBBJ with plenty of ball sucking, very friendly to touching, and all of a sudden also a very passionate kisser, she did a very good job at bringing the little soldier back into shape for active duty. From the BBBJ to the action she immideately suggested doggy as her favourite, which was a nice change to the standard cowgirl. I however wanted to start her off in missionary and so it was. After a good missionary (including ear-nibbling) we turned to the doggy. She was like made for doggy, And we had a long hard go at it 'till I finaly blew the last drops in the condom inside her.
Patricia was not as good an experience as Solange but maybe she could have been, had she not been the last quickie before I left.9 for body, 10 for performance.
After paying her, I showered, got dressed and left for Schönefeld and the flight home. I left Artemis at 17.10 well within schecule.
Summary
1. Emilia, 25, Slovakia. Blond hair dyed red. Fair skin, normal build, C-Cup. Kino sex! Body: 7/10 Performance: 7/10
2. Solange, 28, Brazilian, tall dark skinned, classic Brazilian in everyway. Her 28 years did show naturally on her body but no complaints here. B-C Cup.
Fantastic sex! Highly recommendable. Body: 8/10 Performance: 10+/10
3. Patricia, 24, Brazilian. Actually a younger firmer version of Solange. She did not have one extra gram of fat on her body. Breasts were nice and firm with big, hard, nipples and small to no cups. A B-cup. Good sex, wish I had had more time with her. Nice and cheerful. Good sex, excellent BBBJ. Recommendable.
Body: 9/10 Performance: 10/10
Total damage: 70€ entry plus 3x60€ = 250€
Notes
- Not many girls on a wednesday afternoon.
- "Underwear day" can make for suprices
- The EE girls seem to be dominating besides from the 2 (3?) Brazilians, the black girl and 1 asian girl 90% seemed to be bleached EE girls, some of them
stunning, some of the less so.
- Girls have different tactics, Some mass together, some stay alone, nad some aptrol the area (Specially one older bleach head and her young protegé never seemed to sit down).
- The environment was very relaxed, I wonder what a Fridaynight is like (I imagine that the upstairs bar can be alittle like "Flowers Park" in Madrid)
Conclusion
An amazing experience and if I get the chance to go to Berlin again, another visit could be in order. I still miss sampling some of the more stunning bleach heads.
(Putting a summary, notes and conclusion is stolen from other contributers to this board as I think it is a good idea!)
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Nice report, Jcn00
Next time you decide to go to Berlin I'd recommend you to arrive at the club 17.00 instead of leaving at that time. From 17.00 (5pm) and until approximately midnight there is a constant flow of new girls arriving.
You can find cheap hotels on hrs.de or similar online services. I've previous recommended the Kronprinz Hotel, this hotel is not in the 40-50€ range but well worth the cost considering it's only a 5 minute walk from Artemis.
I myself prefer naked girls so I avoid Artemis during Wednesdays.
A question if you don't mind: did you ask Emilia for BBBJ but she refused? Or did she just do CBJ and you didn't ask her for BBBJ?
I've experienced the latter myself at this club a few times but as soon as the girl takes the condom and I see her intention is to do CBJ I've asked her if she won't do BBBJ. Every time the answer has been "Yes, I do, if you want." and I've received BBBJ with no complaint. I've never had a session with a Artemis girl without BBBJ.
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[QUOTE=Flodhast]Next time you decide to go to Berlin I'd recommend you to arrive at the club 17.00 instead of leaving at that time. From 17.00 (5pm) and until approximately midnight there is a constant flow of new girls arriving.
You can find cheap hotels on hrs.de or similar online services. I've previous recommended the Kronprinz Hotel, this hotel is not in the 40-50€ range but well worth the cost considering it's only a 5 minute walk from Artemis.
I myself prefer naked girls so I avoid Artemis during Wednesdays.
A question if you don't mind: did you ask Emilia for BBBJ but she refused? Or did she just do CBJ and you didn't ask her for BBBJ?
I've experienced the latter myself at this club a few times but as soon as the girl takes the condom and I see her intention is to do CBJ I've asked her if she won't do BBBJ. Every time the answer has been "Yes, I do, if you want." and I've received BBBJ with no complaint. I've never had a session with a Artemis girl without BBBJ.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your response.
About time of arrival. I was fully aware that arriving and leaving early (and on a wednesday) was not the best thing in terms of girls there. However it did make for a more relaxed first impression of the FKK scene.
Also a lot of plans for the logistics to fit, so this was really the only option, I did not have the time to stay for a night.
For another time it would like to try not a wednesday and later in the day.
I did not ask Emilia for the BBBJ, rookie mistake I guess, anyway with my anixiousness level through the roof at that point, who knows what could have happened ;-)
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Opinion poll
Anyone been to Kamilla Dees or Van Kampen?
Any thoughts?
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Good question IPM, I'd like to know too, I've been to World, Oase, Goldentime and PT Dorsten, but am also wondering about Berlin and Artemis.
Anyone? Worth hitting Berlin for Artemis instead of a trip to Frankfurt or NRH area?
[QUOTE=IrishPussyman]I would like to know from other mongers who have been to the big Frankfurt clubs and maybe also Goldentime, PHG, Ying Yang if they think the trip over to Berlin is worth it just to visit Artemis, this coming from someone who enjoys all the aforementioned clubs.
Thanks
IPM[/QUOTE]
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This would not make much sense..
[QUOTE=IrishPussyman]I would like to know from other mongers who have been to the big Frankfurt clubs and maybe also Goldentime, PHG, Ying Yang if they think the trip over to Berlin is worth it just to visit Artemis, this coming from someone who enjoys all the aforementioned clubs.
Thanks
IPM[/QUOTE]
... unless you already had business to do in Berlin or were into the cultural scene there anyway or wanted to experience some Berliner Luft and Schnauze.
This is just one club. La Folie is the other one but it doesn't come close.
Sure there are other venues for this: the apartment scene, the Sexkinos, the street scene.. but for the club scene, Berlin's offerings are rather scant.
NRW is crawling with clubs. Now that is where the action is.
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Another reason to hit Artemis might be...
...because you heard a certain girl(s), who you know from other clubs, was now working at Artemis in Berlin, I suppose. However, you would have to be a really dedicated fan, because 1) Getting to/from Berlin would require additional travel funds; 2) the price structure at Artemis is amongst the highest in FKKdom; 3) there are a hell of alot of FKK opportunities and other FKK girls working in other other clubs in the NRW/Hessen areas...
All that being said, I know that Artemis does attract some top girls from other clubs during certain times of the year. Being the Hauptstadt, I would imagine there is a good client pool in Berlin with excellent cash flow for these girls...
Ortos
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[QUOTE=Ortos]All that being said, I know that Artemis does attract some top girls from other clubs during certain times of the year.
Ortos[/QUOTE]This weekend you would find 150 girls in Artemis. Artemis is next to IFA exhibition so they expected a lot of people, so therefore there were a few more girls than usual. I was there early in the evening, so not to many guys yet. Is not often you have so many girls to choose from.
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Artemis rookie
In the spirit of giving back to this forum, here's my short report on my first time visit.
I arrived a Artemis between 1600-1700 after a day of sightseeing in Berlin (which is a wonderful city! ). It was a Wed, so girls were wearing lingerie or bathing suits.
The facilities are a big draw here. You really could believe you were spending the day at regular spa. On this day there were an even number of women and clients. Very laidback, nice atmosphere for a first FKK visit. I would say half of the 30-40 girls were 7-8 or better.
My first encounter was a Russian (or Belarus? ) girl.- Natasha. Tall & slim redhead with a sweet and caressing style. I wasn't sure if I wanted to go with her so we sat in kino to chat first. NOTE: I found the kino to be a good 'test drive' environment before going to a room. I would recommend her. Her performance is a little staged, but not over the top. Definitely a good one to start with.
Next was the highlight of my visit. Sabatina from Krakow. Young blond with dark highlights, only her third day in Berlin and I met her just as she arrived to work that day, yeah! Although a little reserved at first, with some 'coaching' she came around and started enjoying herself more and more. Having sex with her reminded me of those first teenage sex experiences. Just flat out fun. Her body was just a playground and she loved to kiss. As an aside, I've noticed in my limited sample of Eastern European girls (4-5? ) that breasts seem less firm than other nationalities, coincidence?
The next girl was? From Bulgaria. I passed her by on a couch and was drawn by her gorgeous face. Dark hair, dark eyes, good English. I talked to her for a bit but then noticed her bumper was a bit larger than I cared for. So I told her I'the see her later. Which I meant figuratively, but she took literally: ). She sees me later in the pool area and calls me Pinocchio for not coming back to see her. It was all in good nature and we flirted a bit, so I said what the hell, let's go for test in the kino. She passed the test and her cushion actually looked better without her garter or whatever she was wearing. Anyways, she was good lay but more like a "friend with benefits" experience.
My last decision would be tough: repeat with Sabatina or go for this amazon of a Croatian woman I met at the bar. Let me say the Croatian looked like a WWII-era pinup girl. She was abundant in every respect. I was strangely aroused by the fact that she could probably hurt me in bed: ). Now her outfit did cover up a lot so I was weary there may be some surprises. But then Sabatina comes around the corner and starts 'eye fucking' me across the bar and I knew it was over. The Croatian would have to wait for next time. Up we went to the room and had another excellent round. NOTE: I found the rooms to be a bit warmer than I'm used to in US and the fans don't work! So I sweat there more than in the saunas! I learned to grab a cold drink on the way up. Sabatina stayed with me in the room for another 20 mins after our 30 min session, no rush whatsoever.
I can't recommend Artemis enough. I spent 10 days in Europe, including Prague and Barcelona, and this FKK experience was my favorite. You must do it once in your life. Artemis seems like a perfect place for first FKK visit, but I would suggest another day than Wed. Enjoy this place, it's a rarity!
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Conversations in an FKK: Artemis Day #1
When: Sunday night, a bit after midnight.
How: I drove there and used GPS. I don't know what is with GPS and FKKs. They are always a bit off. I learned this at World and since then I always take a map with me.
Scene: The place was crowded. The men to girl ratio was high and it was hard to relax and take your time, which I did not have much in the first place so I felt rushed. Unofficial estimate from a girl is 150 girls and 250 guys. The facilities are nice and have been discussed at length so I will skip that part.
Girls: In my opinion the overall quality at this place is slightly better than at world or Palace. My first was a beautiful Turkish girl, fair skin, beautiful all natural body. 24 yrs old and speaks very little english. You can spot her easily 'cause she wears a small diamond on her right nostril. cute. She is not GFE. She gave me a BBBJ for 5 minutes I massaged her beautiful body for ten minutes, BBBJ for another 5 minutes and I finished with Russian. What a finale. She did not close her eyes. She has some quirks and is a bit distant. She doe not like her ears nibbled nor her fingers licked. I didn't care. I was focused on getting blown by a gorgeous 20 some year old and watch me spill myself on her most beautiful breasts.
Turkish girl with a nose jewelry:
Face 9
Body 8
Service 7
After a snack break, I was getting tired of loosing all my top choices to guys who are more aggressive so I started making the rounds. She just walked up to the bar and barely put her purse down and I was all over her with an enthusiastic hello, may have come off a bit too eager. Who cares at this point? It is almost 2 AM and I need to get back to my buddies in the city. This walking dream in from lithuania. 5' 10" without heels, natural short blonde hair, blue eyes (contacts I think), perfectly natural C breasts. We had a great time. She studied Psychology in Lithuania and is thinking of starting a practice. we talked about a variety of things and the conversation led to the topic of potential spouses. She said, "most people I see here are married and I don't have a problem with that. But if I ever get married and if my man goes to FKK AND if I find out about it he is OUT. As long I don't know, it does not bother me and I am not going to go dig around to try and find out." Well if she takes care of that future lucky bastard half as good as she took care of me, two times a week he will remain her slave as along as she looks this good. I shared my last piece of wisdom with her but skipped the part about the unstoppable phenomenon called aging.
Lithuanian leggy blonde:
Face 8
Body 9
Service 9.
P.S. I am not a writer, but I like to provide details. One thing I am going to do from now on is not give out names of the girls, especially for FKK. For one, a name does not help unless I take out a print out with me and even then I can't talk to all of them to get heir names. The staff are generally not helpful in pointing out if a particular girl is working or not. At this point having a name is pretty much useless. Another reason is that skipping the name allows me to give out a bit more personal information about the girl which I find it interesting. Comments from the senior "gurus" are appreciated
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What's in a name?
[QUOTE=Vitrea]
P.S. I am not a writer, but I like to provide details. One thing I am going to do from now on is not give out names of the girls, especially for FKK. For one, a name does not help unless I take out a print out with me and even then I can't talk to all of them to get heir names. The staff are generally not helpful in pointing out if a particular girl is working or not. At this point having a name is pretty much useless. Another reason is that skipping the name allows me to give out a bit more personal information about the girl which I find it interesting. Comments from the senior "gurus" are appreciated[/QUOTE]
Thanks for your report here. Really excellent and appreciative.
Btw: Just a personal comment: I could not disagree more with your remark about skipping names. I think the name is the most important detail and I personally find reports that don't include names to be a major disappointment. I don't think you are betraying anything by giving the name, because just about all these girls are not using their real name, just the club name. For me at least a report like yours deminishes in value greatly when the names are not included. For example, I know a Lithuanian girl who sort of matches your description. I would love to find where she is working now. (I knew her from another club, but she said she would move around to different clubs.) Now maybe this is the girl, but how can I know if you do not include the name! See...
Ortos
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[QUOTE=Ortos]
For example, I know a Lithuanian girl who sort of matches your description. I would love to find where she is working now. (I knew her from another club, but she said she would move around to different clubs.) Now maybe this is the girl, but how can I know if you do not include the name! See...
Ortos[/QUOTE]
Hey Ortos,
Could be her.
Cheers,
Dedalus, who also would not mind seeing that gal again.
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I'm for naming them too
Ortos / Dedalus
If the one you are talking about is Celina, she's still there. I snared her last Wednesday ;-) Physically she hasn't changed one bit, and she's still as sweet as they come, but she was definitely going through a routine with me this time, so it was not so good as a year ago. She's not as busy either. Maybe the two things are linked. Mind you I'm not sure she is the one that Vitrea was talking about (short blonde hair? No).
Confusingly, there is also a Selena/Celena now. But she is dark.
The one to look out for at the moment IMHO is a Russian blonde from the Urals called Anna. A classic slav blonde, quite tall. Very intelligent, superb English and German, great in the room. The business. And there is a very attractive Belarus redhead called Natasha (Msands met her too), who is impressive because of the amazing way she works the room. Just incredible snaring technique. In the room IMHO no more than average, everything a bit too soft and sugary for my taste, but certainly fair value and optically a treat.
Artemis was full beginning last week, because of a fair. By Weds and Thurs things had cooled down. Great eye-candy, Artemis is the place for Poles and Baltics, with hardly a Romanian in sight.
Sorry I cannot give a full report. I was not feeling that great, and by the time I got back I'd forgotten about most of my sessions. But it's still one of my favourite clubs.
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[QUOTE=Toscana]Ortos / Dedalus
If the one you are talking about is Celina, she's still there. I snared her last Wednesday ;-) Physically she hasn't changed one bit, and she's still as sweet as they come, but she was definitely going through a routine with me this time, so it was not so good as a year ago. She's not as busy either. Maybe the two things are linked. Mind you I'm not sure she is the one that Vitrea was talking about (short blonde hair? No).
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Well, I have always been a big fan of the former Oase Celina aus Lithau and I have known for some time that she resettled in Berlin-Artemis. Many times I've toyed with the notion of training up to Berlin primarily to see her, but I acted on the urge...But the description of Vitrea did not sound exactly right, so I thought he might actually be talking about another one of my favourite ex-Oase Lithuanians, a girl called Anna. But I doubt this is the Anna you write about, Toscana. But who knows...maybe...Is she about 28ish y.o.?
Great to hear that Artemis is the "Palace of Berlin."
Ortos
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[QUOTE=Ortos]I thought he might actually be talking about another one of my favourite ex-Oase Lithuanians, a girl called Anna. But I doubt this is the Anna you write about, Toscana. But who knows...maybe...Is she about 28ish y.o.
Ortos[/QUOTE]
It's all very confusing, but part of the fun I guess. The Anna I met has been around, and knows all the bigger clubs, including Oase. And 28 could be about right. But she is definitely from the Urals, so a long way east of Lithuania. So it's very unlikely we are talking about the same girl. That said, she, unlike Celina perhaps, is well worth taking the train for from any part of Germany. Good looker and a good performer.
[QUOTE=Ortos]Great to hear that Artemis is the "Palace of Berlin."[/QUOTE]
It's better than Palace. Hardly any Romanians, hardly any sharks. But I know we think differently on that. BTW it was apparently so busy on Tuesday last week, that there was full sex taking place all the way up the spiral staircase. One girl told me proudly she even did it on the games console with the guy perched on the stool. :-) :-)
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[QUOTE=Toscana]BTW it was apparently so busy on Tuesday last week, that there was full sex taking place all the way up the spiral staircase. One girl told me proudly she even did it on the games console with the guy perched on the stool. :-) :-)[/QUOTE]I miss Artemis. Probably not a day goes by that I am not trying to get back there! At this stage it looks no sooner than next April, but one never knows!
I too like the names in reports - adds a personal touch, but each to his own as a writer.
I haven't seen any mention of my lovely Dorean - tall, blonde German with thigh high leopard skin boots -sound familar to anyone?
Cheers
Dogger862
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I went to Artemis again some weeks ago, on one of the lingerie nights.There were as usual a lot of very fit girls, but as I'd arrived around 17:00/18:00, all the girls from the first shift were all in the process of leaving.
There was a very hot girl I talked to, I really can't remember her name, but she was quite the stunner. Tall, huge breasts, nice ass, thickly-applied lipstick on her pretty face. I was dying to escort her to a room, but when I asked her for DFK, she flatly told me no.
I then proceeded to ask another 5 or 6 beautiful girls spread throughout the bar area whether they did DFK, and once again the answer was negative.
Fortunately this polish girl saved my night, and told me she would kiss. During the session we exchanged some wet kisses but no tongue. Not exactly the most enthusiastic session I've ever had, but it was OK I guess.
Is there a new tendency in Artemis for girls not to offer DFK (I don't recall things being this awful last time I visited), or was I just plain unlucky?
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100th
Artemis last night (tuesday )and as I was arriving I met this guy in the lockers leaving . He asked me if it was my first time here ....no was the answer. second ? no
how about you ? I ask .... 1st?
no 100th he replied
When he left I thought ....
well he sure MUST be one of my freinds here....
So if you are send pm or something.
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Ozouville
It's a problem encountered more often in Artemis than other clubs in my experience. I don't know why. Always important to check before committing to a session. But of course there are still many that do kiss.
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[QUOTE=Toscana]It's a problem encountered more often in Artemis than other clubs in my experience. I don't know why. Always important to check before committing to a session. But of course there are still many that do kiss.[/QUOTE]Ok, thanks for the feedback. I think I'll try diversifying my choice of FKKs in the future, depending almost exclusively on only one club is never a good thing.
It's a pity Berlin has no serious alternatives to Artemis and I certainly hope that some entrepreneurial spirit will eventually see the potential the city has.
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Sharks and DFK
[QUOTE=Toscana]It's better than Palace. Hardly any Romanians, hardly any sharks.[/QUOTE]I couldn't agree more even if it might be true that girls at Artemis don't kiss much. I had like 20 sessions there and less than a half did DFK but I don't know if at Palace girls kiss more.
I just love all those blonde blue eyed polish and baltics girls assembled together.
It is a place I'm always looking forward to go back to.
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Very nice experience to be there.It was just amazing and tyring in 2 days 8 girls(5+3).Unfortunally many girls were refused not to be exhausted in cash and because of dizzy knees after all those steamy sessions.
Downside, is the kino.They kept showing same film on both days.
I will write detailed report on Berlin and London soon .Artemis wasn't the place I have visited.
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Nice time in Artemis
I have gone to Berlin before and I always do a variety of things: Bars – outcall. Fkk- incall.
This time I thought I would focus on Artemis.
I spent 3-8 hours there every day and came to some conclusions that might be of help here:
I realized that you have to spend a lot of time here to have a good time and get your moneys worth.
If you go for short time you will not see (and speak to) all the girls so chances are you will not get what you really want.
So I took my time after entering and 1-2 hours relax sauna eat drink and meet all the girls I was interested in. And a lot I was not interested in. I also observed wich girls were busy or not and how they behaved generally are they smiling? Chatting? And who they hang out with because girls that hang out together might have the same way of working and acting. When Arriving I did my stuff waiting and talking so I saw everyone and decided I liked 5-6 girls so now I all I had to do is approach them.
LORENA from Colombia: The first day no time for being too choosy so I took Lorena. Nice face nice tits but a bit overweight. Nice enough attitude though and had a good 30 min together.
Face 9 body 6 performance 8
JOY from Lithuania was a very nice personality slim, but a bit shaggy tits. We had a good session she said she had an orgasm but I have no evidence of that so.
Face 7 body 7 performance 10
ESTELE German had me at Hello, as you can rarely meet a girl who can carry a conversation like her and we talked for 15 min before we went upstairs. That has always worked better for me as I don’t respond t the lets fuck approach some girls use. Also nice to talk about all the countries we have visited as she is well traveled also.
Face 8 body 8 performance 9 total packages 9 (this cannot be explained with math)
MADLEEN from Russia was the most beautiful girl I saw in Artemis and for that I hesitated to go with her but the experience of going with a girl so pretty won so there I was surprised that she was great performance also. (No GFE but great)
Face 10 body 10 performance 9
CARMEN: from Spain Valencia. Now it’s late and I am resting but Carmen has a different idea. She makes out with me for 20 minutes on the sofas so now my "little friend" has the same idea as her as she was all ove me. And a good idea they had.
She is for me the one to look for in Artemis as she was star performance. There is no German "professionalism" in her.
She gives you the idea that that she is into it and wants it. And if she is acting than give her the Oscar. PSE+GFE .
She looks at you like she wants to eat you. she gave me some evil eye as she saw me coming down from a session!!!
Face 9 body 9 performance 10+
ROMY from Spain Malaga: She was my choice for the day before but didn’t get around to it. Blame it on Carmen. Anyway she had nice body and tits (8-9) her tits were enhanced but you could not tell easily. Everything went great but it was the most rushed session I had. I didn’t try other positions as she had control and gave me the impression she was too professional and a bit rushing things. Bbj and one position and that was it. Over in less than 15 minutes and out of the room in 15 seconds. I thought her husband had come home from work and caught us or something. Face 8. 5 body 8. 5 performance 7
ESTELE German: Even though I had decided not to go 2 times with anyone of these girls in a moment of weakness I gave in to this wonderful sweet girl and had a session with her. Not as nice as the first one because we were both tired and she had been working 10 hours without a break but still above average. And if I knew that beforehand I would have saved her for some other time.
Face 9 body 8 performance 9
ANDRA: From Romania: She was one of the sweetest faces there. She never bothered or even looked or asked anyone and this was kind of aproblem for someone who wants to approach her. There are some girls like that who always hang out with someone else and even if the group passes through she is never the one to talk to you or even look at you much. And as she was always sitting and talking with 2-3 gils its hard to go to her. Another example is 2 girls with long culry hair (look like twins from far) who eventhough I wanted could never get the chance to talk to them. Even for a second. Always together and never look at you for more than 1 second. I didn’t see them busy all the days. And they were 8-9. Anyway I have been interested in Andra on previus visits also but now it was on so she was a lot of fun in the room in a kd kind of way. This means she acted like a 15 year old at times. I have stoped aking the girls ages but I would guess 22-26. She is shy and she opened up to my humor and had a good time also. The next day she was on attack offering me a trio with her big.1. 80- friend. Face 9 body 8 performance 9 (it’s a small problem when she opens her mouth but she can use it for good also)
CAROLINA1 from Lithuania. I decided this day to go early and when I was getting on the train this girl came in behind me and I was interested in her. When I noticed that she also got of at westkruz my imagination flew. So when I saw her 1 hour later in the downstairs bar I jumped at the chance. Of coarse I first talked to her for 5.10 minutes to find out that she was one of the nicest girls you can meet. A bit shy at times but honest and the look in her eyes was something else. Like her friend the blond I met later but didn’t get a chance to session (no name sorry) Lithuanian also blond a kilo or 2 in the thigh area nice face nice eyes.
The time was up an I was long way from finishing so I extended to an hour as I didn’t want to let her ruin the mood by thinking of the time. You have to prognose this because you can't expect a girl even as nice as her to make the time more for you.
Also some times even if the girl is nice and pretty and great body you find out you are not very compatible with her. Not the case here. Much fun had by me.
Face 8. 5 body 8. 5 performance 9
LEKI: from Thailand: I was trying to get a massage for 2 days but the guys downstairs had no English and were too busy. So I got a better deal from Leki: Sex and massage in one. She was no more than 1. 50 height and she worked in massage parlors before. So I got a 10 min massage and she got 20 min pounding and all was ok.
I must say that it was hard to approach her as I tried 2-3 times but she was not smiling and not continuing the conversations I started. So I thought no because she is a bit hostile.
But finaly I went to her at some point and said. Why are you not smiling?
She said I have no man no room and no money.
We talked a bit and when I found out she could massage I didn’t hesitate. It was money going to the massage guys anyway. So when I was paying her she smiled and I say "ok you have smile you have man you have room you have money"
One thing I observed watching her is she is not chasing the work to much (she hangs out a bit with a very pretty short chubby blond)
Face 8. 5 body 8. 5 performance 10
VIAGRA from Bulgaria: This girl was on my list all the previous days. We talked over 10 times every day. She chases the job very much and is very busy. She ended up being "mad "at me for not going in the rooms with her. So the last day as she was tired of chasing me she tells me "Don’t speak to you no more" always tomorrow. Tomorrow.
So when I got the chance I went to her at the bar it took her 10 minutes to get over the shock.
Face 8 body 9 performance 9
CAROLINA from Poland. Had seen her all previous days and was not on my list and since it was my last session I had 3-4 candidates. (very nice body nice face nice eyes nice blond hair Barbie like total) so I was resting and listening to some music upstairs where at 2200-02000 is quite good and she sat with me at least 30 minutes talking and having fun and joking around. So in my book she deserved a session. The session was very nice we just didn’t have great "compatibility" mainly because I am not into that Barbie beauty and especially the see cup implants (new) which seemed "too perfectly round ". Above average for sure.
Face 9 body 9 performance 9 session 8
Also I have to say that the food at Artemis is very good considering and much better than before.
Eating something very very small and resting enough between sessions does wonders. At least for me.
The total experince was very good.
No bad experiences just less good.
No DFK by anyone of the girls.
Use the info only for good.
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Gratsi, Cento
Thanks, Cento for a great, detailed and long report. A good view into Artemis. Seems like there is a huge population of good looking reasonably talented girls.
However, I was a bit alarmed by your comment at the end when you said not one of the many, many girls you sessioned with offered bbbj. Did you in fact request it each time and you were denied this service? or are you saying that there is a specific policy amongst the girls not to offer it? Does this mean Artimis is a cbj zone only? Wow! I am esp surprised in that I thought many of the girls currently at Artemis are ex-starts at some of the wll known Hessen clubs like Oase. Did you meet a stunning blonde Lithuanian girl named Selina?
or a sexy long-legged burnette from Moldova called Lizzy? These and some others who used to be at Artemis were definite practioners of bbbj.
Well thanks again for your report...
Ortos
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Hi Ortos
I have been to Artemis at least 5 times this year alone and have never asked for bbbj, but apart for 1 or 2 girls always got an bbbj. My latest visit was early september 2007 so the info are relativly recent, so I don't think you have to worry about Artemis becoming an cbj zone :-)
I am thinking about writing a report on my many visits, but I have some worries about that.
I'm worried about being recognized by girls from Artemis reading this website and this having a negative impact on future sessions :-)
Also I cannot remember all of my the girls names, it's amazing how many different names I've heard and I'm not sure I can remember all the sessions.
I find that the chemistry with the girl means a lot for the quality of the sessions so if I "grade" the sessions with the girls it will be a highly subjective grade.
Futhermore do I want you guys to tire out my favorites? :-)
[QUOTE=Ortos]Thanks, Cento for a great, detailed and long report. A good view into Artemis. Seems like there is a huge population of good looking reasonably talented girls.
However, I was a bit alarmed by your comment at the end when you said not one of the many, many girls you sessioned with offered bbbj. Did you in fact request it each time and you were denied this service? or are you saying that there is a specific policy amongst the girls not to offer it? Does this mean Artimis is a cbj zone only? Wow! I am esp surprised in that I thought many of the girls currently at Artemis are ex-starts at some of the wll known Hessen clubs like Oase. Did you meet a stunning blonde Lithuanian girl named Selina?
Or a sexy long-legged burnette from Moldova called Lizzy? These and some others who used to be at Artemis were definite practioners of bbbj.
Well thanks again for your report.
Ortos[/QUOTE]
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every girl offered bbbj
[QUOTE=Ortos] I was a bit alarmed by your comment at the end when you said not one of the many, many girls you sessioned with offered bbbj.
Ortos[/QUOTE]
I never said that .
I said none dfkissed . (maybe one) but all gave bbbj .
I have a bit of a problem with names and barely kept the ones I sessioned with.
But Selina sounds familiar. maybe is the Lithuanian I mention freind of Carolina.
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I think in every Fkk Club is like that.
I was in World last year and 2 years ago and every girls gabe bbbj.
I think it's a rule of the clubs.
if I have to say the true, I don't know if it is so safe...
even if one time that I came in mouth to a girl, she quiclky went to the bathroom to make gargles with some kind of mouthwash...
[QUOTE=Cento]I never said that .
I said none dfkissed . (maybe one) but all gave bbbj .
I have a bit of a problem with names and barely kept the ones I sessioned with.
But Selina sounds familiar. maybe is the Lithuanian I mention freind of Carolina.[/QUOTE]
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BBBJ depends on the club...
[QUOTE=Assimil]I think in every Fkk Club is like that.
I was in World last year and 2 years ago and every girls gabe bbbj.
I think it's a rule of the clubs.
if I have to say the true, I don't know if it is so safe...
even if one time that I came in mouth to a girl, she quiclky went to the bathroom to make gargles with some kind of mouthwash...[/QUOTE]
... and the girl.
Most clubs offer it as standard but there are exceptions.
At Cocoon, its an option. You can get a BJ with or without a condom. Without a condom costs less, obviously.
With a condom is fine for me. I've had too many TJs (Toothjobs) and they can be painful.
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Re the no DFK at Artemis...
[QUOTE=Cento]I never said that .
I said none dfkissed . (maybe one) but all gave bbbj .
I have a bit of a problem with names and barely kept the ones I sessioned with.
But Selina sounds familiar. maybe is the Lithuanian I mention freind of Carolina.[/QUOTE]
Sorry, you are right: I was quite tired when I read your report and I mis-read: No DFK for "No BBBJ."
So I correct my question: Are you saying that Artemis is now a no-DFK zone? That is equally disappointing, since many of us are DFK fans. And, the same comments I made about some girls who used to work in the Hessen clubs were fine practioners of DFK, and still work there. Do you think there is a specific policy at Artemis NOT to offer DFK?
Ortos
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dfk
[QUOTE=Ortos] Do you think there is a specific policy at Artemis NOT to offer DFK? Ortos[/QUOTE]I dont think so its just that none of them did it and I didnt push it as I dont like to push the girls to do stuff they are not happy with.
Kisses on the mouth small and not so warm .. a litle tounge playing .. some seconds yes but very little to be charachterised as Dfk.
As I said I only take what they are comfotable with .
Anything more ruins MY mood ...so I avoid.
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Dfk
The ONLY different thing about Artemis is that more girls than usual do not kiss. Why? Don't know. But I wouldn't say it's more than 20%. Earlier this month I was there for two days and talked to loads of girls. I rejected two because of no kissing. Every single one offered BBBJ.
Clearly it is not such a big issue for some of the recent reporters. That's fine. They still had a good time.
You need to set your priorities really. My recommendation is always to ask for what you expect. (I always ask at any FKK, in the whole country, and anywhere else in the world for that matter. And if they do not offer, no business, no bad feelings. Same with BBBJ. Sometimes they will change their mind, rather than lose business, but I still reject them, reckoning they would hardly be committed.) But that's just my take.
Really, this is not a big issue. Artemis is a good club, especially if you like the Slav type. Loads of blonde Poles and Baltics, and some good blonde Germans there as well.
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Questions
Hello everybody! I've just finished some mongering sessions in Prague and Warsaw (see my reports in those sessions, if you wish), and would like to end my two weeks-trip with Artemis in Berlin, but I have a few questions whose answers I did not find on the site (I researched a bit, but there is too much to be able to look everywhere!).
Ok, so I'm at the entrance, get naked and get a bathrobe. Do I get to stay in swimsuit or am completely naked? I'm asking because I wouldn't feel comfortable in the pool, not while I'm at the bar or something. And what about the restaurant, how am I going to be dressed over there?
Second, I'd really like to listen to some music or read a book, between sessions...so what do I do, keep a book with me all the time? Or just leave it in the locker and everytime I wish go and take it?
One more thing: if I go with a friend and we want to pick up two girls for both of us at the same time, you think I have to pay 60x2 (the two girls) or 60x4 (the two girls+the two of us)?
Thanks for the reports and keep up the good work!
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Very simple questions
[QUOTE=Gapingmaster]Ok, so I'm at the entrance, get naked and get a bathrobe. Do I get to stay in swimsuit or am completely naked? I'm asking because I wouldn't feel comfortable in the pool, not while I'm at the bar or something. And what about the restaurant, how am I going to be dressed over there?[/quote]
I have not been to this club yet but have lots of experience at FKK clubs elsewhere. Its considered uncool not to go commando, d. h. go nude under your towel or bathrobe.
This way, you pick your temporary companion and you can get right into action at the drop of a towel.
I've only seen guys wear underwear at clubs in Niedersachsen.
Is it a problem at all for you to go nude? Nude is the very definition of what FKK is all about.
[QUOTE=Gapingmaster]Second, I'd really like to listen to some music or read a book, between sessions...so what do I do, keep a book with me all the time? Or just leave it in the locker and everytime I wish go and take it?[/QUOTE]
Yes, why not? You can do anything you want. It is inconvenient to have to take the book out, place it back. Your choice on what to do with the book.
At most clubs they wouldn't care less what you do in between sessions. Taking photos of the girls might be the only thing which is totally taboo.
If you want to jerk off at a corner, that wouldn't typically be a problem either.
At the late, great Fantasyland I once saw a dude who was visibly excited and without much ceremony was stroking himself pretty much in full view of the rest of us near the whirlpool area. One of the women (wearing nothing but heels) spots him, kneels between his legs and asks him if he needs help. He says no but that doesn't discourage her. They talk with her looking down on his thing every now and then, he goes about his business as if it were the most normal scene in the world.
[quote=Gapingmaster]One more thing: if I go with a friend and we want to pick up two girls for both of us at the same time, you think I have to pay 60x2 (the two girls) or 60x4 (the two girls+the two of us)?[/quote]
[i]Das heisst[/i]: you and a friend take the two girls into a room and you both do each one, meaning you swap? Or do you mean you take the two girls into a room, you do yours and he does his and you don't swap?
When you say [i]both of the us at the same time[/i], do you mean you intend to double penetrate them?
This question isn't very clear.
The easiest way to set up a session as you describe above is to visit a liberal PT (one which allows group sex) and arrange for a girl and her friend and your friend to get together. Then there are no extra charges.
Oh, but wait... you are concerned with nudity and probably with sex in the open so a PT might not be your scene.
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Undercover inside Artemis
Investigating prostitution around last year's World Cup in Germany, a French female reporter worked undercover as prostitute inside Artemis. In June 2006 she taped everything with a hidden camera; check-in with the manager, signing a costly legal agreement, dressing up, speaking to fellow club girls and clients. It circulates on French language internet sites: [url]http://blog.entrevue.fr/index.php/20...des-supporters[/url]
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[QUOTE=Hollandmale]Investigating prostitution around last year's World Cup in Germany, a French female reporter worked undercover as prostitute inside Artemis. In June 2006 she taped everything with a hidden camera; check-in with the manager, signing a costly legal agreement, dressing up, speaking to fellow club girls and clients. It circulates on French language internet sites: [url]http://blog.entrevue.fr/index.php/20...des-supporters[/url][/QUOTE]
Very interesting. Any chance anyone can give a summary in English for those of us unable to speak French?
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J'arrive pas a trouver ca
[QUOTE=Shark16]Very interesting. Any chance anyone can give a summary in English for those us unable to speak French?[/QUOTE]
I can't find this video, d. h. it links to a website which hosts a couple of videos but I can't identify the specific video with this interview.
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It's in the Archive for June 2006 and it's the first one (and only one?).
[QUOTE=Jackyo]I can't find this video, d. h. it links to a website which hosts a couple of videos but I can't identify the specific video with this interview.[/QUOTE]
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Artemis, the world cup supporters brothel
[url]http://blog.entrevue.fr/index.php/?q=artemis&x=22&y=9[/url]
2006 Soccer world cup
Our journalists have infiltrated the supporter’s brothel.
Entrevue (aka Interview). All truths are good to say.
We estimate to 40k prostitutes who go to Germany to work for around 60k supporters.
Medias have talked about it...
VSD
France 2: sex, prostitution and the round ball. Would the soccer world cup will bring thousands of prostitute to Germany in a country where selling one's body is legal?
Here is Artemis, the mega-brothel of the cup. There is around 200 clients per day.
Entrevue decided to go further than an official investigation: to go undercover in the biggest brothel of the supporters.
Our journalists get in touch with the management to get hired as prostitutes.
Step1: the administration, the mandatory to work legally.
The pros declare living in the club and pay a rent of 600n euro.
A dubious method to be a resident in Germany.
The pros have to be in order with the law.
Our reporters can now exercise in all legality.
Once formalities are done, direction the club to work
Step2: the director shows around and hands in the key of the changing room.
Pros have 10 to 15 clients per day.
You done this job before?
Yes. Yes..
BBBJ? Sucer?
Yes yes. Keine problem.
Step3: Once ready, our journalist has to pay 50 euro per day to work
50 euro par day + 600 euro per month = 2100 euro per month
Pros have to get enough clients to break even.
1st clients arrive and pay the 55 euro club entrance fee.
In the club they have the obligation to be NAKED UNDER THEIR ROBES.
Step 4: To make money, pros entice to consume alcohol.
Where you come from?
Paris because in France, prostitution is forbidden.
At the bar, pros caress clients in order to heat them up as quick as possible.
The pool is also a meeting point. The hygiene is poor.
Step 5: Clients pay after the sessions in the changing room.
Discussion with a French client.
Where do you come from?
Paris because in France, prostitution is forbidden.
Yes. Brothels are forbidden but are you free to do ….
Officially, yes ‘brothels are forbidden’ but unofficially …
You mind we settle over there??
Yes. No problem. Wherever you want…
(It seems the undercover journalists are very natural in this job. I wonder if Entrevue hired true French pros to be fake journalists for an brothel undercover job )
In conclusion, our crew has noted that Artemis has a more than dubious hygiene and are slackers regarding the hiring (the undercover pros must be really ugly :)
Germany welcomes 22mo visitors.
Artemis counts around 650 clients per day or 19 500 during the cup.
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[QUOTE=Jackyo]I can't find this video, d. h. it links to a website which hosts a couple of videos but I can't identify the specific video with this interview.[/QUOTE]Jackyo, just tipe in "Artemis" in the search machine in the left corner, and the video will appear.
A short and – as very often – superficial report about the club and its working ladies. I didn't find it quite fair/correct when it comes to the apparently "doubtfull" hygiene. Although I've been there only once, I find the cleaniness to be good, also compared with other clubs.
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[QUOTE=Jackyo]I can't find this video, d. h. it links to a website which hosts a couple of videos but I can't identify the specific video with this interview.[/QUOTE]This link should work.
[url]http://blog.entrevue.fr/index.php/?q=artemis&x=11&y=11[/url]
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[QUOTE=Jackyo]Is it a problem at all for you to go nude? Nude is the very definition of what FKK is all about.[/QUOTE]Mmmhh, probably I wasn't able to explain myself properly. I have no problem in walking around "comando", with a bathrobe on. I have it when it comes to have a dive in the pool; I don't know, maybe it's just that I never did it before, but I THINK I wouldn't feel comfortable with my "stuff" bumping up and down when I dive into the pool...just a guess, though.
[QUOTE=Jackyo][i]Das heisst[/i]: you and a friend take the two girls into a room and you both do each one, meaning you swap? Or do you mean you take the two girls into a room, you do yours and he does his and you don't swap?[/QUOTE]I mean swapping girls. That's why I guess it would be 60x4.
[QUOTE=Jackyo]Oh, but wait... you are concerned with nudity and probably with sex in the open so a PT might not be your scene.[/QUOTE]Jokes aside, I AM concerned with sex in the open; I don't like the idea of other people watching me banging a girl. To each his own, I suppose. Thank anyway for your reply.
GM
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Berlin - FKK Artemis
My second report is about the Artemis in Berlin.
The environment, after La Folie the previous day, was most luxurious, and I was delighted to see that more or less all the girls were naked in here, whereas the men wore bathrobes. An amazing array it was, such that one was spoilt for choice.
On the whole, the girls seem to leave you alone to make your choice here, and I was only approached 3 times, first by a little, slightly overweight girl with dark hair from Eastern Europe. She greeted me with a molest and a kiss, which was encouraging, but it was too soon after arrival for me.
Then a blonde sat by me on a couch. However, her English was a little fractured - Russian Girl, I think - and when I told her that I wanted to stay on the couch for a while before moving to a room, she interpreted it as a brush-off and went.
Finally, whist sitting in a somewhat protected corner, another girl leaned over to ask if I wanted anything. So pretty relaxed.
Whilst I was wandering around, I saw several pairings in the Kinos, but I tended to avoid these as the films showing were almost exclusively anal. But wandering back to the bar, I was greeted by the sight of a delicious female bum up in the air as she administered oral to someone on the couch. This set me up, and I went properly a-looking.
I'm sure I tested out 3 girls, but only two really registered.
Firstly, there was the Turkish girl, who was lounging on a couch alone downstairs. We went to the couches at the bottom of the stairs, where she started work on me, and wow, is she good! Very co-operative, too. In the room, slightly rushed, but not too much so, and she was distinctly wet during the performance. I have to give her a 9 overall.
This brings me to another point - prior to my visit to Berlin, I'd only really experimented in England and Australia, and I know that the Aussies squirt a little baby oil inside before they start, which helps. All the girls in Berlin seemed to leap on top whilst still dry, which I find distinctly unpleasant.
Anyway, on to girl number 2. She was half indian, with large breasts, all real. She was good on the couch, and good in the room, so I'll happily rate her an 8.
I was delighted with Artemis, and would return there, if I ever decide to return to Berlin - which, sadly, is unlikely. Now I'm looking forward to testing out Koeln!
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Saturday October 13rd
Back at Artemis for a full relaxing day from 12.00 to 21.30.
When I arrived there were only 3/4 girls eating, maybe 2/3 with customers and other 2/3 around the club.
I relaxed half an hour then I searched if there was some girl around.
Alone in the bar zone (I mean only her in all the area except the girl at the bar) on a couch there is a girl with blue eyes, blonde hair. I look at her face, she is pretty cute, my type. Her english is not fluent but you can easily communicate. Then we go to the room.
Sabatine, polish, blue eyes, blonde hair but they are brown in the end, not tall, not firm breasts.
Face 8/10, body 6.5/10
The session was fair but not remarkable. Somewhat I had the feeling she was holding back even if we stayed more than half an hour in the room but I finished in about 25 minutes, the other was chat.
Session: 6.5/10. I won’t repeat.
Valentine, lithuania, long dark blond hair, blue eyes, a tatoo on one of her leg. I met her in my visit in july and since I knew it would be good I said her at the beginning I wanted one hour.
Session 9/10. Dedicated. I’ll repeat for sure next time again.
Hannah (not sure about the h), russian, blonde hair not very long, slim body, with a little well kept garden just above the ****, good english, she had a bruise on her right knee, she said her dog made her fall on her knee.
Face 8.5/10, body 8/10.
Probably she is the same russian Toscana wrote in a previous post. Very cute, sweet and good performer. The session lasted 35 minutes (yeah I check my watch).
Session 8/10. I’ll repeat.
All the girls did DATY and BBBJ but about DFK I didn’t even ask or try. I know Valentine doesn’t DFK (from my previous visit) she only kisses you slightly.
As usual the place was quite till about 4 o clock, before six more girls arrived and six onwards more customers arriving. Anyway a good ratio women/men. From 6 to 9.30 there was always a bunch of good looking ladies free for action. But in my opinion the polish girls shouldn’t often stay in group at the bar making not easy for a guy to approach.
A funny thing, you see a lot of girls always gather in the bar area just before dinner (at 6 dinner is served at the restaurant) and they enter the room like a swarm, as if there wouldn’t be food later. In a second you find yourself in the bar with almost only men. But after the faires recharge with food they are ready to work again.
I’ll be back.
Buck
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Another Artemis video
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fv0H6hw4tGw[/url]
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Confirmation of Hotel
Hello there,
This is my first message on this thread, but i hope to provide a full report soon. I am in Berlin for 3 days from 17Nov and wanted to check with the regulars whether Ibis Berlin Messe hotel has been experienced by any of the punters before?
While the main reason for booking this is to be closer to Artemis. I wanted to know if i can invite some girls in the night and whether the hotels would object?
Thanks
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Artemis Berlin First day in september
Sorrry folks it’s a bit late report on Berlin. I was there in September on a Tuesday. Having all the information from ISG and [url]http://www.bordelle-berlin.net[/url] flew to Berlin. I had a hotel at Kurfuerstendamm. The area is very safe and close to city’s attractions as well as all the places I wished to visit (Artemis, La Folie, kinos, bordells)
1. Day: Artemis:
It's only three minutes from Westkreuz raiway station. I arrived at 4 clock. The reception girl explained how things work. 70euro entrance with use of all facilities. It is also includes buffet for lunch and dinner. Girls services 60euro for 30 min. If you wish to have extras another 60euro CIM, COB and 100euro for anal.
It's open from 11-05. After shower I walked around bit. From the start it sound promising. There were two full naked blondies below the stairs caressing each other. By the pool a brunette was giving head to a Japaneese guy. Upstair bar had about 15 girls of every kind while I had my drink I was approached by a thai girl of late 20s. Politely I declined of her room offer (sharks) and then a blonde russian with a little bush downthere tried her chance although she was attractive I declined again.
Next another blond came to my seat. The little rizla was ready for action. A beauty of Hungarian at 22 years old age with juicy breasts, a smooth belly and great ass as well as wonderfull smile. A few minutes later I was in the room with her. What a great start she gave a nice deep long BBBJ. I would come to her lovely mouth but kept myself. She put condom and climbed on me. We had wild ride. Then missionery position I banged her that she started scream (fake? Who cares) Finally I had her doggy style (she offered me anal but said no because of price) when I came I was sweating with pleasure. After a few minutes of rest I decided to have another session with her she was pleased. We conversed about mywork, our countries, her morrocan boyfriend, his family.
Second round was much better. I had a perfect french kissing BBBJ, DATY, 69 just you name it. I gave her all I could her screams were much louder this time. When we finished I was dizzy of steamy sex.
After we dressed I paid her her 120euros in downstairs. She gave me big hug. Score: Body 9/10, Attitude: 10/10, Sex: 9/10
With dizzy knees I went downstairs for sauna to recover. I stayed there 15 min and swam in the pool for a while. Had another drink and sat in the bar. Lot's of girls came and gone. Some were very polite some were agressive when they were turned away. While I was refusing the bimbos and siliconed babes I caought eye on a small black haired girl with nice tits and round ass. She came and gone, never stayed in the bar area more than a minute as if she was looking someone. At the end little rizla said go for it. So I followed her. I cought her by the kino. She was a Bulgarian with a black eyes and shiny white skin. She was 20 years old. Her english was limited. I had difficulty to communicate her. She undressed quickly and wanted to give me CBJ. I said I wanted to have without. She went down without first half way later down deep. We had 69, daty, a nice breast fuck, a missionery position, top, doggy and another missionery for the finale. Went back downstairs for her payment of 60euros. Score: Body 8/10, Attitude: 7/10, Sex: 8/10
Later I had dinner from the buffet which starts at 6 clock. It's not a five star but it was sufficient for the eye and stomach. It was nice to see the clients and girls each in the same place. I had a chat with several of them who were just arrived. They all seemed sweet to me.
After dinner I went down to kino to sit and relax little bit. But no way of relaxing. A girl who were in the frontseat started giving BBJ to a guy. I didnot know which one to watch film or live show. Already I was horny a blond Polish (22years old) with d-cup tits and long legs sat next to me and asked to do same. How can someone refuse this type offer. I opened my robe she went down between my legs. Good. Her lips were giving me a thight BBBJ. I was just coming I had to stop her (extra 60euro! ) to finish off the usual way. We went to one of the rooms which are next to the kino. This time I ate her pussy, fingered (kindly asked) her little ass, sucked her hard lips and gave her all the positions. Fourth sssion meant longer to come. She was suprised with my late coming. Again went down paid her well worth 60euros and got a nice french kissing. Score: Body 8/10, Attitude: 9/10, Sex: 9/10
Went to bar and had a coffee. I was tried after all those sessions. It was 8 clock crowd was building up. There were at least 40 girls in the first floorbar area and 30 customers. Downstairs were less crowded with both sexes. I talked to a nice German girl but her tits were not my liking. When she left a beauty of brunette arrived with a long legs and hair. She sat opposite of me and talked with a guy for a while. But he wasn't giving her a chance so she left. Later on I was in the kino again this time no action sat there to watch the lousy 90's porn film. Some girls came but all were turned away. At the end that brunette came in my eyes went down from top to the bottom. She was a 20 year old Hungarian with small tits and lillte bush down belly. , within a minute I was in the room with her ready for action. She stood up with a full view of her body and sat on my face. I licked her sweet clean pussy. Later she sucked me deep, kissed my body head to toe. When It was to have her. I had difficulty finished off. The fifth round was taking its tool. Shame. No luck of finishing. We went upstairs paid her fees. She was bit puzzled for the result. But it's life. I am not a young stud anymore. Score: Body 9/10, Attitude: 10/10, Sex: 8/10 While I was thinking to leave market shelves were full of goodies to have. It was about 10 clock and a party had had stared. Women were fin fullcolours. Hungarians, Russians, Polish, Slovakians, Germans, Turks, Thais, Chinese, Bulgarians, some African girls, an italian and an colombian pretenting she was Spanish. I had only had one more shot (money and strengh) so wanted use it wisely. So I sat and watched the parade. Girls came and gone. I kept myself for the final. Whe it was 11 clock a Russian sat next to me. A blonde of 25 years with nice curvy tits and fat clean pussy. She said I could have her from wherever I wanted. So oncemore I was in the room. I asked her that I would go from top to toe. She laid down. I had kissed her tits, had DATY with her pussy lips, fingered her ass. When it was her turn she sucked me off deeper and deeper. The sixth round was getting better and better. I felt I was ready for final action she opened her legs and I gave her long banging. Second position I stood up and had her from back (she asked for anal but no cash left for it)Finally finished with a great bang. When I was paying her fee I was a tried and happy man indeed.
Score: Body 9/10, Attitude: 9/10, Sex: 9/10
Overall: Artemis is a supermarket of a sex. There are tons of goodies on the shelfes. Whatever your taste is you’ll find it there. Everything is open and safe. There are sharks around (offcourse) but they won't bother you once you refuse one of them. They will tell the others that you are difficult for hard sell. But the other opportunities are plenty just chose wisely and act with smile. You will be treated like a king. Enjoy
Cost: 70+120+60+60+60+60=430 well spent.
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Artemis Second night in September
( see first part of the report on Berlin section)
While I was walking to hotel with a disappointment from La Folie I suddenly decided to go Artemis again.I was near Charlotenburg station so it took just few minutes to be at Artemis.I entered the building and paid the usual and went to straight to bar.It was a Wednesday and was bikini night.I had forgetten the bikini night which is the girls wear either a bikini or underware instead of being fully or almost naked on the others days of the week.This didn’t made me go for my business.There was a striptiz show and was crowded as the day before.I had had any dinner so I went to the buffet and grabed some food.While I was having my meal there was a girl of medium body,I was not able to see what treasure she might have had.She wasn’t a Barbie at all but she had a strange attractiveness that I wasn’t able keep my eyes on her.Nevertheless I ate my dinner and went to the bar.
I sat at the bar while I was drinking a short and busty black haired girl sat next to me.She was 23 year old of half Indian and half Hungarian.She was good for a wild ride I felt.After finishing my drink we were in the zimmer.It was a again good selection.Her olive skin was silky and had great busty tits.Usual bussines went accordingly and she was worth evey penny she had.Especially her BBBJ and tit fu…ng skills was exceptional.
Score:Body 9/10,Attitude:9/10,Sex:9/10
After paying her I wondered around.Because of the striptiz show music was loud at the first floor bar,so went to sauna and had some rest there.The sauna gave some strength and sat at the kino(there was same lousy porn film on the screen) Many great bodies came but I refused them.I had to recover.But bit later here we go… The mysterious girl who I had a strange attraction in the restaurant was there…
She approached another guy but refused and she left..Shame she should have had come to me,I would have had her straight.I run after her ,Shame I thought,she had gone with somebody. But suddenly she appeared on the stairs towards their area(some girls live in Artemis’s third floor).I stoped her. I invited her for a drink(just soft drinks they serve in Artemis,the Champange is an exception and is expensive and that night some gus were havig it with some siliconed Barbie dolls..ooch)She was aware of me and had seen me the day before she said.There was something with her She was 20 year old from Hungary and was her second month in Artemis.Our conversation continued in the room (wherelse???) She had fine pair of tits and clean pussy but It was her black eyes were on my attention.( I never had this before with a working girl)I didn’t stop looking her eyes. She gave her best.We did all the usual(nice BBBJ,69,DATY, five positions)I enjoyed her intimacy.It was a almost GFE experience.When I paid her fee I had a shameful feeling..
Score:Body 8/10,Attitude:10/10,Sex:10/10
When I came back to downstair bar area to recover ,I knew I had one more shot to go.After a while I was ready for action.A blonde Russian with siliconed tits and lips asked me for sex.Why not baby I said.She looked a perfect to finish the day.Her skills were expectional something like a porn star.She moved her 22 year body smoothly and her fake tits were perfect.It took long way to finish with her( I was exhausted)When we came to the end both were sweating.
Score:Body 9/10,Attitude:8/10,Sex:9/10
While I was leaving that Hungarian girl came by.I said her goodbye she gave me a kiss and said hope to see you again…Who knows???(continues on Berlin section )
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@ Rizala44
Great reports, but.. no names?!
This doesn't help anyone trying to plan a trip to this club and the idea behind this forum is helping others who come after you.
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I agree with JackyO: Great report, but a very great shame there are no names! Makes the report loose alot of it's value, for me at least.
Btw: there were reports that DFK was an endangered species at Artemis. I notice in the report below there is no mention of DFK. Was it present and just not mentioned, or did any of these three girls reject DFK? Just like to know as it is important, for me at least...
Ortos
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No names of the girls.
Sorry guys I am not very good with the names. It's just me I am hopeless with them. Sometime girls get annoyed when I ask them their name again. I just remember the I was strangely attraracted to was Elena and the Russian from first report Katya, I belive. In Berlin section I mentioned Lena from Salon Celine. I had to checked thier site to verify her name. My apoligies. But I will my best for Goldentime Sauna Club in Vienna where I had a goodtime last week. I wrote their names already. Just follow me.
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DFK for Jacko
I must admit I didn't ask for DFK to any girls. Whether they do it or not. I had, the first day's with Hungarian (can't remember her name sorry)because I had a double session and things gone naturally. But the rest they were ready to do anything, just you name it. Maybe I stayed awawy from the sharks and bimbos. I got what I wished to have from them.
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No DFK in artemis....
[quote=ortos]i agree with jackyo: great report, but a very great shame there are no names! makes the report loose alot of it's value, for me at least.
btw: there were reports that dfk was an endangered species at artemis. i notice in the report below there is no mention of dfk. was it present and just not mentioned, or did any of these three girls reject dfk? just like to know as it is important, for me at least...
ortos[/quote]
i was at artemis last month, and had 6 sessions during 3 days.
no girls offered dfk. i did not specifically ask, but sort of "tried". the best i got was a closed lips peek.. i am sure that if you ask around you will find some girls who will agree, but this would rather be the exception than the rule.
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Knutschlos Artemis
[quote=dreams]i was at artemis last month, and had 6 sessions during 3 days.
no girls offered dfk. i did not specifically ask, but sort of "tried". the best i got was a closed lips peek.. i am sure that if you ask around you will find some girls who will agree, but this would rather be the exception than the rule.[/quote]
thanks, dreams, for your specific information. dfk the exception to the rule at artimes, eh? well, this is not the case at most other fkks that i've visited. i wonder if there is an unwritten agreement amongst the girls not to offer dfk, or is it an official club policy? anybody know?
the lack of dfk might detract from my enthusiasm to visit this club...funny: the ancient greek goddess artemis, the huntress, was a bit of a prude too!
ortos
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Might Detract ?????
I think Ortos' statement below about his enthusiasm without DFK may be placed in the best of British understatement category. ;-))
[QUOTE=Ortos]
The lack of DFK might detract from my enthusiasm to visit this club...Funny: The ancient Greek Goddess Artemis, the huntress, was a bit of a prude too!
Ortos[/QUOTE]
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About to experience Berlin
Hello Rizla and others. I'm about to land in Berlin. I understand that Artemis is a must. However, Berlin is huge and I'm wondering whether there are other places that are worth while checking. Risla44 mentioned the website [url]www.bordelle-berlin.net[/url]. I've checked it, but had trouble figuring out from it what else to try, without express recommendation of this esteemed forum.
I also planned to go to a regular German club that attracts young easy-going females. I never manage to abandon the hope of finding some cute young freebies.
So, your advise on what places aside from Arteimis to visit in Berlin for both pro and non-pro experience will be greatly appreciated. Report will follow.
I thank you in advance. Aibolit.
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DFK at Artemis
I was there in September, and had no problems. This was not the case the previous time I was there.
My advice: when the subject of going to the room comes up, check openly with the girl whether she has a problem with it (and anything else you want). Maybe I was lucky this time, or maybe with a sale so close they didn't want to lose out. Don't know, but it was always done, and willingly.
It is essential to ask at Artemis, where it is less so at other clubs (I always check anywhere as it happens). And I do not go to the room if it is refused. Plenty more girls around at Artemis. But plenty do kiss, fear not.
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A goldmine
It think it is the time make my real contribution to this forum where I have learned a lot. This is the list I made for Berlin: It is not complete yet but I am working on it. Star marked ones look promising from their websites and you just need a good map or google anvigation. Enjoy
(p. S: a similar one will be ready soonfor Vienna with my report as well)
1. **Artemis-------Halenseestr. 32------Westkreuz station---(11-04)---entrance 70e+60e 30 min. Extras 60+
2. Müller II---------- Bamberger Strasse49 10779 Berlin (Wilmersdorf----- Nadine+/Vanessa+/Julia/30min=50+40a..20min 30e
*3. Van Kampen---------- Berlin-Wilmersdorf, Mecklenburgische Str. 23a----- Monique/Lisa+/Sabrina/Elektra/kira+/ nadia** 030/82719272 30min 80e..---10-22,
4. Saunapalma----- Waitzstrasse17 10629 Berlin (Charlottenburg..-----20enterance+ 14-05 20. 09 party 9-17 100e
5. TiffanyPrivat---- RITTERSTRASSE 11 10969 Berlin Kreuzberg----------kelly/kim/ 30min=60+25a
6. L'amour------ Quedlinburger Str. 2a Charlottenburg, ..---- tina/sky/nicky/Vanessa+/valeria/eve 20min duet 80e+30e
7. PARIS LOUNGE-----..--- Alt-Moabitstr46 10555 Berlin Mitte 30 Minuten 60, 00 EUR
8. Erotikakademie-----Flemingstr. 5a Berlin-Tiergarten030/39885192..---maike/lynn+/viktoria/grit/linett/joy
9. Sexy-Candyshop1/----ringstr f 78 12105 berlin templehof jasmin+/melissa---30min 60e/
*10. Sexy-Candyshop2----- Rheinstr 78 berlin freidenau 30min 60e/
11. Ginas Tango Rosa----- Oberlinstr. 3-4 D. 12165 Berlin 30min 40e sarah/steffi/Vicky
12. Maison d' Envie..--Danziger Str. 61 10435 Berlin kali/kasia+/Vicky+ 30min52e+20
13. Liberty..-----Martin-Luther-Str. 14 / 2. OG 10777 Berlin-Schöneberg 30mn 60e+40
14. Bei Tomsen------ Bundesallee 128 (nahe Friedrich-Wilhelm-Platz) 12161 Berlin irina+/ 30mn 50e
*15. Candy------Sonnenallee 203A12059 Berlin-Neukölln Astrid+ 0179/9958048
*16. Lola----- Sonnenallee 20112059 Berlin-Neukölln alex+ 0176/27480407
17. Freudenhaus..--Hochstr. 45 13357 Berlin..-Viktoria/maru/alexea 30 Min 45 €+40
*19. Klix 37--------- Klixstraße 37 Reinickendorf_----KIM+ 9-19hrs
*20. MONAS ROSES----- Hinderburgdamm 76 12203-------sophie/fairy+/janina+ 30e 20min
*22. Heißen Luder------Lüderitzstr. 14------isabell
*23. Gina’s..---- Spiekermannstrasse Nr. 1 Pankow—frances/Linda+/Julia----
*26. Timeout-----Dudenstr15. Templehof----Marina/Irina+/Lena+-30min 50e
*27. La Dolce vita1--------Donaustrasse 130---Lena/Monique+/luna/Michelle, /Patricia/Raffaela, / Shary,
*28. La Dolce vita2------------ Pannierstrasse 27 12047 Ola/ Violett/ Gina/Anastasia/ Laura+/ 30e quicke
*29. Carena----------Stratssmanstr 29 Berlin-Friedrichshain /Sandra/ Nicki /Kenny/ Sarah/30min 60e-06hrs 30. Chatau-- Haubachstrasse 22Berlin---14-05hrs Kathy
****32? Salon prestige----- Ringbahnstr. 1 Berlin-Wilmersdorf..-Luna/susi/jasmin/Sheila/mandy+/Alexandra+/chantall/30min 60e+40 40
33. Moni's Sex-Kino----Kaiserin-Augusta-Allee 38--- 34-SEX-KINO-BAR 91 Großbeerenstr. 91-- 35Cascade Sexkino Kantstr. 120
36? PRIVATE-CENTER-BERLIN--- Kantstr. 38--
37 Paola's Sexkino Hauptstr. 54—38 City-Sex-Kino Potsdamer Straße 168;
40. Pension Schilling'---Schillingstrasse 19 13403 Berlin-Reinickendorf---cindy/laura/lissy
*41. HP2----Hermanplatzz2-1 over macdonalds---30min 50e+20
42. La Folie----Kaiser Frederich str. 63--- 18-04hrs-30min 70e+14e entrance
43? MonRouge—Leibnizstr 57 Adriana/marie/ 31 80 12 55 44. Kamilla Dee. —Blissestr. 33 30min 80e
45. Crazy Sexy Girls-----Danzigerstraße 165, lexi+/
47. Berliner Erotikcenter—sybelstr. 14
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Thanks, Rizla44!
We have been lacking a list of all of the offerings in Berlin and this certainly gets us there.
Almost makes up for your not taking note of names. :-)
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Berlin report from Rizla
Rizla,
Many thanks for the report. It's very nice of you to share this with the forum. I noticed that you gave the best rating to Artemis and Van Kampen. The latter is quite expensive, however. I wonder why?
My main question is what Berlin places in your PERSONAL experience (rather then website) are advisable, IF the main criteria are:
1. Model-like stunner slim body.
2. Fresh child-like young cute face.
3. No older then 24 y.o.
Any comments will be greatly appreciated. Cheers,
Aibolit
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[QUOTE=Aibolit]Rizla,
Many thanks for the report. It's very nice of you to share this with the forum. I noticed that you gave the best rating to Artemis and Van Kampen. The latter is quite expensive, however. I wonder why?
My main question is what Berlin places in your PERSONAL experience (rather then website) are advisable, IF the main criteria are:
1. Model-like stunner slim body.
2. Fresh child-like young cute face.
3. No older then 24 y.o.
Any comments will be greatly appreciated. Cheers,
Aibolit[/QUOTE]
While waiting for Rizla expert opinion, IMHO you will find easily these 3 criteria in many Artemis girl.
What you did not require is good service, and that may be more difficult to get from those girls meeting your earlier requirements...
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Criteria for Berlin adventures?
Aibolit and others thanks for the comments. I just wanted to make life easy for myself and fellow mongerers when I prepared that list. (nextone will be for Vienna soon)
My preferences were based on centrality (easy reach), availability (hours), younger crew (I am into MILF I have got plenty of them around me) and price (I have a budget for this kind of indulgence.)I would not have 200-300euro an hour escort for the sake of sex.
I always look for the alternatives to what I know. (so that's why I tried La Folie next day after ARTEMIS)which was a dissapointment. As you can see from my other reports on Berlin I tried my best to visit some of boredlls and kinos in four days. Overall they are (attitude and surroundings) much better than London where I had a lot experiences.
The stars are to indicate my preferences of visiting not the scores. They were the places I wanted to visit most. The others were secondary for my next visit to Berlin which hope to be there soon. VanKampen seemed fine, although it is pricey but it's worth for checking.
List is not complete yet I need to finalise (possibly with a central berlin map and help of google)Just need time which I don't have at the moment.
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Fantasy clubs in Berlin
Gentelmen,
I researched the scene in Berlin a little bit, ahead of my visit. I've noticed that there are few clubs, such as KitKat club ([url]www.kitkatclub.de[/url]) and Insomnia ([url]www.insomnia-berlin.de[/url] - not sure if this one is correct, however). These clubs have sex parties every week designated "to fulfill sexual fantasies".
Did anyone have experience with these? Can these be any good, particularly if one is into freebies and young wild babes?? Rizla, did you have any exposure to these?
Thanks for the feedback!
Aibolit
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There's a Berlin thread
This is the FKK Artemis Berlin thread. Other posts with lists of clubs n Berlin and other general questions and discussions about the Berlin scene,should be posted in the Europe-Germany-Berlin thread.
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Sat night at Artemis - perfect ending!
After reading the posts on this forum I decided to go to Berlin to sample Artemis, the brothels and sightseeing. I booked myself a 3 star hotel near the ICC (Amelie Messe ICC) for Euro 29 a night from [url]www.venere.com[/url]. Without staying in a hostel, that is the cheapest I could find around the Artemis area. I figured out I will probably spend all day sightseeing and in Artemis so paying for an expensive room will be wasted. The hotel room was actually quite clean and spacous except for the disgusting cigarette smell in the pillow and duvet. Which I had to sleep with the window opened.
Getting back to the main subject, I arrived at Artemis at around 2. 30pm. The place had around 7-8 girls and no more than 15 men. When I walked into the bar area I immediately spotted a beauty but while I hesitated and wanted to look around the place a bit more, she was taken by a man. After some 25 mins later, she reappeared. Without letting her seat became warm, I asked if she wanted to go to a room. Her name was Doris, 25 from Poland. There was no GFE feel as there was a lot of hand used in the blow job. Sex was average and between entering and leaving the room, it was all finished in 15mins. Strangely I did not feel too unsatisfied because she was probably one of the most beautiful looking women I ever fucked. Face: 9, Body 8, GFE and Service 6.
As there were very few girls there, I left the place and went to the city for some sightseeing. I returned at around 9. 30pm. Now the number of men and women have doubled from the afternoon. However, the place is no where near full. Maybe because it is so large. Within a few minutes of searching, I found Emily, 21 also from Poland who was trained as a nurse. This time I stood beside her and started to make a conversation without hesitation or delay. (And it was proved to be a very wise move.) Again, there was a lot of hand in the BBBJ and she did not like changing positions and it was slightly rushed. I was thinking is that a Polish thing or a good looking woman thing? Face: 9, Body: 9, GFE and Service 7.
I then spent my next four hours watching the porn movies, eating, using the sanua, chating to other customers, watching all the nake women wondering aorund and enjoying the pole dancing. I have to say all the forementioned things are really good at Artemis and I even dare to say Artemis is a little bit better than FKK Oase and Palace in Frankfurt.
This is now around 1am, I am searching for one last fuck to finish my excellent night off. I am wondering where have all the 9s gone. There were plently of 7s and a couple of 8s sitting around but Emily and Doris who I had earlier were nowhere to be found. I think they must be with customers who order champagnes at Euro150 a bottle and spend the whole night with the girls. And there were no shortage of these rich b*%tards either.
Finally I picked a girl who I have been watching for the last two hours. She have been sitting at the bar with other girls and strangely she did not approach any customer nor had anyone approached her. At last, she moved to sit by herself and I made my move. Her name was Yvonne, mid 20s from Czech. Yvonne is about 175cm and has a super fit and slim body. Unlike most of the girls I saw there who either had thick thighs and/or had excess fat around their wasit. Had Yvonne's breasts be firmer, she would have perfect 10 body. The BBBJ and the sex are not too dissimilar than before except there were some light kissing this time, she did not rush anything and had a great GFE feel. Face 8, Body: 9. 5, GFE and Service: 9
Yvonne is one of my top three shags in 2007 and what a perfect way to end the day!
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Artemis vs Oase and Palace
Further to my last report I thought I would also compare Artemis in Berlin and Oase and Palace in Frankfurt in case anyone is looking to choose between them:
1. Location / Easy to get to by public transport:
Artemis 8 (you can leave the place to the city centre and come back plus the trains in Berlin run 24hours service on Fridays and Sats)
Oase 6 (you need a short taxis ride to the train station or a long taxis ride if the train stop for the night)
Palace 9 (very close to the city centre)
2. Facilities / Ambience
Artemis 9 (Downstairs in Artemis is brighter, less smokey and chill which I really like.)
Oase 8 (an extra point if you are going in the summer because of its outdoor garden and there is a real party atmosphere when the dancing starts. But they urgently need to update their porn films which must be from the 80s.)
Palace 7 (Could get very very busy)
3. Girls attractiveness:
Artemis 9 (if you like them blonde and tall then you need to look no further)
Oase 8 (I found some Russians / Ukraines there which I found impossible to resist)
Palace 8 (more variety and more petite girls)
4. Finding girls at peak hours (between 8pm and 1am):
Artemis 9 (there were plenty of 7s and a couple of 8s avaliable)
Oase 7 (the "main hunting" area is dark and crowded, I did not enjoy so much)
Palace 5 (you basically have to fight to get a girl)
5. Service:
Artemis 7 (I find the girls are rushing a little and they use their hands when giving BJ)
Oase 9 (Best GFE feel)
Palace 8 (People say the girls in Palace have attitude but I have had both the best and the worst in this place)
6. Price:
Artemis 7 (E70 entrance and E60 for half an hour)
Oase 8 (E60 entrance and E50 for half an hour)
Palace 8 (E60 entrance and E50 for half an hour)
7. Overall:
I would recomend Artemis as my first choice because of its seemingly more relaxed atmosphere but I would also go back to Oase in the summer to do it on the lawn under the stars! As to the girls, I find it is always impossible to tell what service you are going to receive and to a large extend it depends on how you interact with the girl. However, again, good looking girls in Artemis seem to be a little more available than Oase and Palace.
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Nice comparison
Amt299,
Thanks for this fresh comparison of clubs, which I think are always welcome. I have to correct you a little bit with regard to the pricing structure though:
- Entrance fee for Oase is 65
- Entrance fee for Palace is 75
Am I right?
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[QUOTE=Shark16]Amt299,
Thanks for this fresh comparison of clubs, which I think are always welcome. I have to correct you a little bit with regard to the pricing structure though:
- Entrance fee for Oase is 65
- Entrance fee for Palace is 75
Am I right?[/QUOTE]Thanks for the correction. It has been a year since I last visited Frankfurt. I think I can safely say Palace is the least attractive of the three.
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Artemis
Totally agree with Amt299. I was in Artemis last November and probably I enjoined the same beauties (Emily and Yvonne).
That was my second time in Artemis, after June. Being aware that after first time there everybody gets a little addicted, which means acquainted, to such beauties and the criticism raises, I found more rush and a small decrease of quality this November.
Girls seemed to aim more frankly, and more disappointing, to your wallet. Few GFE.
My best sessions were with two not stunning (well, still charming anyway) russian girls whose name is forgotten. They chatted in the bar very quietly without rush and then gave me great sex (and the second also an oil massage after) although were my third and fourth that day.
I must add that they were more in their thirties than in their early twenties, confirming that also in that work "professionism" helps.
It's clear that a GFE with a stunning girl is something unforgettable, but that's not a rule, unfortunately (it's not frequent indeed).
To the next, guys.
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Artemis in December
I am just back from a meeting in Berlin and since I was travelling alone and had to spend two nights there I decided to go and have myself an early Christmas present at Artemis. I was there in the summer so I already had a taster. I went around 8. 30pm on Wednesday and 6. 00pm on Thursday. On Wednesday the girls were wearing underwear while yesterday they were naked. I have to say that I prefer the underwear. Some girls look better with some support and for others the sense of anticipation of undressing them is also a turn on. On the first night I went in and spent some time looking at the offering. There were many girls there but not so many men so it was a good time to be there. I was approached by a black-haired Ukrainian amazon and we slipped into the kino where a couple of other people were having some blow-jobs. I get quite a kick of having sex in semi-public and with this girl on top of me it was quite a thrill. I speak some Russian so this helped get a good service. Plenty of kissing and a bit of a chat as well as the sex. I then rested, had some food and just relaxed downstairs before a slim German-Italian girl came and sat down. I had fended off a few girls who came by before the little man's batteriy had recharged. And after a sshort chat we went to a room decorated in Minoan style. She was very attractive but I can't remember any names of any girls! After this I was tired after travelling so could not manage another shot so after resting again I left. Last night I was earlier and there were more men and fewer women to start with although plenty more came in. I sat for quite a while sizing them up. The Ukrainian still recognised me and we exchanged greetings in Russian. Then I made contact with a slim German girl with slightly enhanced breasts. But not ballons stuck on her chest. And we went to a room for another nice session. She asked me if she was the first girl of the evening for me at which I replied yes and then she said it was fine to kiss her but she did not really like kissing mouths which had already been in some other girl's pussy! I then had a nice sauna and rtelaxation followed by dinner and more relaxation. Then I spotted an really attactive girl in glasses and took her to the kino for another session of semi-public sex. She was Polish and had the best body of all. Olivia I think she might have been called. All the girls were brunettes, more by accident than design. Although mostly out of a bottle I am sure. As I relaxed on a poolside chair I could not think of a better place to be. If heaven is like this it would be great. The Muslims think they go to a place with 2000 virgins. I prefer a place with 100 *****s any day!
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@ Koshka
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Last week @Arte: Around 80 girls, not too many guys. Had a good time and found a lot of girls from Oase, Palace, former Atlantis:
Jennifer, DomRep (Palace, ATL)
Bunny, Cuba (Oase, ATL)
Nathalie/Michelle (Miss Minsk), Belarus (ATL, Oase, ColA)
Lea, Croatia (Oase)
Claudia, Romania (Palace)
Deborah, Romania (Palace)
Ella, Russia (Oase)
another girl from Cuba I once fucked at Oase, can't remember the name and many others.
Music a little too loud, very bad air (that will hopefully change in January with new regulations). Enjoyed the day at Artemis, I'll be back.
HB
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Artemis again
I packaged my Christmas gift going to Artemis few days ago.
I found an incredible flock of stunning beauties, with a great prevalence of blond eastern girls, but also black haired, brasilian and mediterranean beauties plus a gorgeous black girl and a little teen-like girl from Dubai.
IMHO the average was 8 /8, 5.
Lots of colleagues (men) in the afternoon, decreasing in the evening and increasing again late in the night.
A rapid summary then few comments.
My first session was with Martha, a really beautiful Spanish slim, very nicely boosted, brown long hair girl. She was very kind and seems to claim the same kindness. I approached her gently (as in my habits) both in the sex kino and later in the room. Thanks of this behaviour, as she frankly told me later, she granted me with fantastic deep kisses which opened a great session.
BBBJ was superb. Sex as well. While performing a doggy, I was was so attracted by her perfect butt that I switched to anal, where I ended. I strongly recommend this girl, both elegant and superb. Treating her very gently is necessary to get the best. Unforgettable GFE.
Second session with a dark bulgarian girl, whose name I forgot while I remember how insipid she was. She was mechanical waiting to my shot as a doctor monitoring a childbirth. No rates.
Third session with Luana, a greek girl, green eyes and brown hairs. I had a prolonged session with her. Very good BBBJ and good sex. We chatted in the room and, when we came back to the lounge, we went on chatting while drinking. She didn't look for other men (I was aware she was probably aiming me again) but everything seemed to happen very naturally:
After half an hour, on my demand, we had another session with a prolonged BBBJ and cim while I was "allowed" to deep fingering her pussy (very wet indeed at the end). Surely my shot was very light, anyway she chatted quietly before using the cleenex. Great GFE, undoubtly false but still very credible.
COMMENTS
Germans have great advantages. I speak a poor German but undoubtly, and obviously, girls approaching a German (a potential frequent customer) behave more naturally and rushless than a foreign. Usually a foreign wallet can be emptied just one time. Speaking English, a long approach with girls could be an hazard. I realised girls inform each other of our behaviours, either secretely with glances and little gestures or frankly if you don't speak German. So IMHO a general gently behaviour is requested unless you desire to generally be blacklisted as "dumm". Although in FKK sex is trade, fair approach by girls is commonly appreciated, but gently flirting with them is mandatory to get best results.
Till the next report,
Cheers
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Artemis
Has anyone been there recently?
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[QUOTE=Koshka]I am just back from a meeting in Berlin and since I was travelling alone and had to spend two nights there I decided to go and have myself an early Christmas present at Artemis. I was there in the summer so I already had a taster. I went around 8. 30pm on Wednesday and 6. 00pm on Thursday. On Wednesday the girls were wearing underwear while yesterday they were naked. I have to say that I prefer the underwear. Some girls look better with some support and for others the sense of anticipation of undressing them is also a turn on. On the first night I went in and spent some time looking at the offering.[/quote]As a first time FKK visitor, was this a flat rate upfront for certain 'privileges'? (How much?) (and for what/how long, etc).
Thanks
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A quick review of Artemis - more to follow
[QUOTE=JulyGent13]As a first time FKK visitor, was this a flat rate upfront for certain 'privileges'? (How much?) (and for what/how long, etc).
Thanks[/QUOTE]The flat rate for entry into Artemis is 70 EUR. This does not include any services you may have with the girls.
I go to Artemis about twice per month, almost always on a Friday or Saturday night. The atmosphere is fantastic. My routine has been to get there late afternoon. My philosophy when I go to Artemis is to have 3-4 sessions so the entry fee is spread over multiple pops. I never go for just 1 or 2 pops. With only 1 pop, the cost would be 130 Euros total (70 entry and 60 session). With 2 its 190 euros, or 95 per pop. That is too much in my opinion. But at 3 or 4, the average per pop drops to 83 and 77 Euros. Obviously, this does not include any extras such as CIM or anal.
4 pops takes quite a 5-6 hours minimum for me to accomplish but the set up of the club lets you hang out and relax. My routine has been to get there late afternoon and do 1 session early on. Then I will relax by hitting the sauna, napping, a quick dip in the pool, eating dinner, and reading. The main room on the ground floor is where the girls hang out waiting for customers. I only go up here when I want to check out the girls and pick one for a session. The basement is much calmer and quieter. The pool and sauna are located in the basement. Its a good place to hang out in between sessions. Girls will come down to find customers but not nearly as much as the main room.
For newbies, its probably best to hang out in the main room for a while so you can check out all the girls. Also, the main stairway area is a good place to check out the girls. The light is brighter and you can see what the girls look like a lot better than in the main room. Also, you can check out the girls come down from the 2nd floor with the guys and check to see which customers seem to be happy with their sessions. Good way to avoid being burned.
I will check in later with some reviews of the girls but here are a few recommendations. BTW, all the girls below do BBBJ, LFK to DFK and CFS. A few also do CIM and anal but I don't partake. They are girls I would recommend to my friends. Please note that since I am a regular, I think I get better service than new customers, so its best to negotiate specific services with the girls before agreeing to a session.
Selena. Tall blonde from Lithuania, probabaly 5' 8" with great natural C or D cup tits. Gives one of the best, wettest BBBJ at Artemis.
Bella. Turkish, absolutely beautiful face, implants that don't look too great though. I speak no german and she speaks no english so communication is difficult, but the service has always been very good. BBBJ is solid and sex is great. CIM and anal available
Carmen. Shapely girl from Spain. Just fantastic. Great BBBJ and very passionate. Just a fun girl all around. 5' 7" with great big round ass and nice D cup implants. Also Angelina Jolie type lips, so great to look at during the BBBJ's.
Shania. Cute girl from Moldova. Short (5' 2"), sorta petite, dyed platinum blonde. She is a quiet girl and you have to approach her for a session. She does not troll for customers. Once in the room, if you are nice and not too rough with her, she is very affectionate. Likes to kiss and loves DATY. BBBJ is good and has become one of my favorites due to her demeanor.
I will have more reports later once I have more time.
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Champagne at Artemis
Recently returned from a visit to Berlin and Artemis. This was my second visit to Berlin and I visited the club a number of times during my stay. Overall, I was pleased with my experiences, and certainly would return, but I was somewhat less impressed than my initial visit in July 2007. On my first visit I had better GFE. This time around almost all girls asked whether I wanted a covered BJ (I did not, and uncovered was always provided) and very few permitted kissing on the mouth, which I enjoy. All permitted DATY, some allowed "salad-tossing" or anal-lingus to be performed on them. I expected to see more girls from my earlier visit still working, but most were different. I most desire tall bottle-blonds and there was enough of a selection. I was quite displeased when some of the girls refused to offer sex unless it was a three-some. Apparently there are some girls who work the club together, and have decided that they will only go to a room with a client if he pays for two girls (this occurred even on very light days, when the girls of my desire was just sitting at the bar for long stretches). This is perhaps a small complaint, given the large number of girls available, but I thought I would make mention of it.
My question today is for the more worldly Artemis gents: I remained confused regarding the champagne policy at the club. Prices are clearly marked at the bar, and a bottle of champagne can be purchased from 150-290 euros, depending upon the size/brand. A client will not be drinking the champagne alone, however, and he may have have invited two or even three girls to share his bottle with him. I often saw a bottle being consumed over one hour or longer in the bar area (very pleasant, for sure). However, are the girls being paid for their time drinking the champagne? Does a client pay each girl 60 euros/30 minutes for the pleasure of her drinking company? It does not seem likely that a girl will just drink champagne without charge, when she could be in a room with another client.
Thanks for the information.
ak233
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[QUOTE=Ak233]However, are the girls being paid for their time drinking the champagne? Does a client pay each girl 60 euros/30 minutes for the pleasure of her drinking company? It does not seem likely that a girl will just drink champagne without charge, when she could be in a room with another client.
[/QUOTE]In most of the clubs the girls get a certain percentage of the champagne THEY sell to the client. So that usually is the pay for staying with the client, if it is just talk at the bar. Everything else you have to negotiate with the girls.
HB
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What time
I will go for my first time at the Artemis on March on Thursday. At what time during the day do you suggest to me to go there?
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[QUOTE=Sannita Sos]I will go for my first time at the Artemis on March on Thursday. At what time during the day do you suggest to me to go there?[/QUOTE]
I've never been to Artemis but a lot of the clubs have a day and a night shift. The night shift usually has the best lookers and will normally arrive at about 4-5pm so you could get there around 3pm and chill out for a while before the night shift arrives. It's also worth checking out the day shift as you sometimes get some lookers and they tend to provide a less rushed service as there aren't as many men around during the day.
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Artemis
Do they serve alkohol in Artemis and what does it cost?
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[QUOTE=Torok]Do they serve alkohol in Artemis and what does it cost?[/QUOTE]Yes. Different prices, but no big ripoff. You have to go to reception and buy a chip for the particular drink you want.
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Need Help Gents and Ladies if your here...
Heading through Berlin and staying for two days at this hotel CROWNE PLAZA BERLIN CITY CENTRE, NUERNBERGERSTRASSE 65 anyone know any good GFE's that will either come to the hotel or close enough for me to walk to?
How far is this FKK Artemis I hear so much about on this web site from this hotel? How about some other locations and any street walkers near this address? I have done the party scene in London and anyone know of familiar places in Berlin? I don't speak any German so I am a bit lost as it is. I would greatly appreciate any help since I am leaving soon.
Thank You
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[QUOTE=Chame7777]Heading through Berlin and staying for two days at this hotel CROWNE PLAZA BERLIN CITY CENTRE, NUERNBERGERSTRASSE 65 anyone know any good GFE's that will either come to the hotel or close enough for me to walk to?
How far is this FKK Artemis I hear so much about on this web site from this hotel? How about some other locations and any street walkers near this address? I have done the party scene in London and anyone know of familiar places in Berlin? I don't speak any German so I am a bit lost as it is. I would greatly appreciate any help since I am leaving soon.
Thank You[/QUOTE]If its your first time in Berlin, I recommend you just take a taxi from your hotel. It should only be 10-15 euros.
If you want to take public, then just walk to Zoologischer Station (only 5 min walk from your hotel) and then take the S7, S75, S9 or S5 heading West. Exit at the Westkreuz station (the 3rd stop from Zoologischer Station). Wal up the stairs and exit the station on the north side then its a 5 min walk to Artemis. After exiting the station, walk strait down the street (its the only street and you walk about 100 yards), and turn left at the auto repair/tire shop. Walk maybe 200-300 yards and you will see Artemis on your left. You should be able to see it actually once you exit the station.
Enjoy
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alkohol
[QUOTE=Toscana]Yes. Different prices, but no big ripoff. You have to go to reception and buy a chip for the particular drink you want.[/QUOTE]And german beer ;) do they sell that.
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Artemis 28 feb
Has anyine been there recently how is the line up.
Thank you
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[QUOTE=Torok]Has anyine been there recently how is the line up.
Thank you[/QUOTE]
Made my first ever visit to Artemis a few weeks ago. Incredible facilities and a pretty hot line-up. Heavy on the Polish MILF quotient. Quite a few of those MILFs were rather easy on the eyes. Saw a number of gals who use to work the Frankfurt scene. Georgia-Romanian still looks good despite the addition of a few pounds. Selina (Lithuanian, form. Oase) and I had a nice chat about the good ole' days. She asked after a few long lost customers. The gal is still a looker and can still get it wet.
The highlight of my night there was a tall, lovely Turkish gal named Ellie, who absolutely drilled my brains out in the Kino in front of 5 or 6 onlookers. Closest thing I have had to Daniela (Romanian, World, MIA) sex in a while.
If you are in the neighborhood, then Artemis is more than worth a visit.
Cheers,
Dedalus
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[QUOTE=Dedalus]Made my first ever visit to Artemis a few weeks ago. Incredible facilities and a pretty hot line-up. Heavy on the Polish MILF quotient. Quite a few of those MILFs were rather easy on the eyes. Saw a number of gals who use to work the Frankfurt scene. Georgia-Romanian still looks good despite the addition of a few pounds. Selina (Lithuanian, form. Oase) and I had a nice chat about the good ole' days. She asked after a few long lost customers. The gal is still a looker and can still get it wet.
Dedalus[/QUOTE]
So the great Selina is still in the bussiness? Wow! You had a conversation with her? When she was first starting out, at Oase, (perhaps three years ago -- or was it four??) she could barely speak any English or Deutsch! I guess she's enjoyed more than Intensiv Sprach Kurs, ja?
Tell us about the prices at Artemis: What was the Eintritt fee and the fees for the girls. I know you are very price sensitive and don't like to go to clubs that charge too much, like Palace, etc. Just wondering...
Ortos
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[QUOTE=Ortos]So the great Selina is still in the bussiness? Wow! You had a conversation with her? When she was first starting out, at Oase, (perhaps three years ago -- or was it four??) she could barely speak any English or Deutsch! I guess she's enjoyed more than Intensiv Sprach Kurs, ja?[/QUOTE]
Hey,
She had decent German back in the Oase days when I went with her. Pretty fluent now. Nice girl.
[QUOTE=Ortos]
Tell us about the prices at Artemis: What was the Eintritt fee and the fees for the girls. I know you are very price sensitive and don't like to go to clubs that charge too much, like Palace, etc. Just wondering...
Ortos[/QUOTE]
Got no problem with an entrance fee that is a fair price for what is on the menu. Palace is over priced for what it offers in my opinion.
Artemis:
Entrance: 70 EUR
30 Min. with F/O: 60 EUR
I did not do any extras or hour sessions but I was told that FT and 60 min. sessions are an extra 50 EUR.
The place is pretty easy to get to with the S-Bahn and only about a 18 to 20 Euro taxi ride to Berlin Mitte.
Top notch facilities! Two Kinos, great gym facilities, Haman, saunas, great whirlpool, downstairs and upstairs bar, etc. The main bar has many areas that would be idea for public action, although I saw none when I was there.
In short, a great club and worth a visit.
Cheers,
Dedalus
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Prices
Prices are 60 Euros for half an hour. One hour is 120 eur (no discounts).
CIM is 50 Euros, I guess anal is the same but since I don't fancy anal I've never asked.
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I agree
with Dedalus on the quality of this club. It's really one of the best. Especially if you're a sucker for blonde Balts and Slavs, like me. And I must admit that Selina is one of my first ports-of-call when I'm there too.
But I am afraid he's wrong on the 1 hour rate. It's double up, to EUR 120. To be honest I don't know about FT though.
A general warning would be to check with every single girl whether kissing and BBBJ are on the menu. In contrast to other big clubs, there are quite a few who do not offer these services, and you can waste time quite easily.
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Hey Tosc and Buck,
Thanks for the clarification. When I was speaking to Georgia/Karla about extras, I assumed (incorrectly) that a session extension would be the same as a CIM. I should know better.
Cheers,
Dedalus
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Question re: service from certain countries
This is just my observation and so I would appreciate other opinions. When I have taken polish girls to the room at Artemis the service is very un-GFE. Typically, its a robo fuck sometimes with BBBJ but mostly covered, no dfk, certainly no anal and its over. However, the Russian or German girls provide PSE if that's what you want or GFE. My last trip I had PSE with both a german and a russian (Natalie) a short fake boob blonde. While the polish babes are certainly hot I think its better to avoid them altogether. Thoughts?
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Service from certain countries
As usual I can say it varies from girl to girl.
Anyway I started going to Artemis one year ago and, from my experience, my feeling is that polish group has overall worsened but I don't think they are to be avoid altogether.
But some girls that there were one year ago, they are gone, and some of them were GFE (kissing and all).
As for German girls, there is a german girl, blonde, tall, fake boobs, big tatoo (I don't remember the name) that gave me a very bad service once (robot-like).
In general I've received better services from german girls than polish, but maybe it is just my experience.
As for russians and ex-USSR girls, they are my favorites but you can have "bad" encounters there too. For example with Seline mentioned before in the posts I had a not good experience (maybe I’ll try again given the good comments below). Good experience with Hannah (Russia) but I think she’s gone and with Valentina (Lithuania).
Anyway DFK doesn’t seem to be very spread at Artemis, but even without it the session can be satisfying (depends on how much you consider important DFK with a pro).
The best way to test it is, in my opinion, sitting in the Cinema downstairs and test the girls (that you like) that approach you on the couch. If I like the girl and she kisses me back (good), I’ll go with her in the room and if I'm happy with the service I can make it one hour (2 pops) and/or ask for CIM and so she'll be happier too.
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Track girl / my experience
I've been to Artemis once in Dec 2007, actually the day of the Xmas party. I went with Anna (or called Hannah), quite tall slim Russian girl who wore tights to above knee level. She gave me great girl-friend-experience.
She's been on my mind (and elsewhere, hihi! ) a few times whilst back home in London and I've got a trip booked to artemis for May 2008 for a repeat experience with her. I read Buck rodgers last report saying she's gone. Is this true? Can somebody else confirm this?
Re: Polish girls. I've been in the FKK scene for over a year having been to a dozen clubs in total and generally speaking I've had my best experience with Polish girls (Melissa at Heavensgate. Good GFE! ). However on a few occasions I've been let down by them too (ie. Give us your money and clock watching robot sex). I think it's individuals as opposed to where people come from.
Just got back from Bernd's last Friday, first time there, went with Polish Anna there (. Just fab GFE)
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I've been to Artemis about 20-30 times over the last couple of years and I agree with you, that you shouldn't focus on the nationality of the girls, but on the "vibe" you get from the girl. I have had great experiences with polish girls, but also robot sex. The worst was when I took 2 polish girls for a threesome. It was by far the most boring session ever. Fake moaning almost immediately and they kept talking to each other in polish and laughing.
When I began coming to Artemis I was resistant to go with Romanian girls, because I've read on this and other forum that they offen gave bad service. I've since been with a romanian called Julia, a 1.70m goodlooking blonde (bottle:-)) and a romanian tall gorgeous 1.80m brunette (think Holly Valence with bigger tits), whoose name eludes me at this moment. They both gave good service and I would definitely repeat.
[QUOTE=Skristel]I've been to Artemis once in Dec 2007, actually the day of the Xmas party. I went with Anna (or called Hannah), quite tall slim Russian girl who wore tights to above knee level. She gave me great girl-friend-experience.
She's been on my mind (and elsewhere, hihi! ) a few times whilst back home in London and I've got a trip booked to artemis for May 2008 for a repeat experience with her. I read Buck rodgers last report saying she's gone. Is this true? Can somebody else confirm this?
Re: Polish girls. I've been in the FKK scene for over a year having been to a dozen clubs in total and generally speaking I've had my best experience with Polish girls (Melissa at Heavensgate. Good GFE! ). However on a few occasions I've been let down by them too (ie. Give us your money and clock watching robot sex). I think it's individuals as opposed to where people come from.
Just got back from Bernd's last Friday, first time there, went with Polish Anna there (. Just fab GFE)[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Buck Rogers]
For example with Seline mentioned before in the posts I had a not good experience (maybe I’ll try again given the good comments below).
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Hey Buck,
Selina is indeed good, but moody and has a bit of a "Click-Tick". In other words, if she does not feel a connection, then she can be pretty cold. She was like that during her Oase period and I didn't get the impression from talking to her and watching her "moves", that much has changed.
Play it by ear. If after talking with her for a few minutes you don't get a laugh or a smile, then move on.
Good luck,
Dedalus
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Artemis experiences
I have been to Artemis a lot of times, but have sadly neglected to report on these visits in this forum, for which I apologize. I have my self often used information on this site, so I would like to give something back.
I have made of list of the girls I can remember having been with, where I remember their names. I won’t “grade” them with a number, but will give my overall impression of the time (s) I have spent with these ladies and whether I would like to repeat with them and how long ago I have seen them at Artemis. I have been with at least 14 more girls, but at the moment their names eludes me. I’ll add them to the list when I recall their names.
I haven’t listed their particular services, as I don’t ask about that beforehand. Virtually all provide BBBJ, some do DFK. Anal sex I have no idea about as I don’t have any desire for that service.
Unless otherwise stated my session was very similar (I like what I like), BBBJ followed by sex in different positions.
I hope some will find this useful, but remember YMMV. As I’m a very overweight guy in my forties some of you lighter and younger guys will probably get better service. All in all I have to say that I have rarely had bad sessions, most were very enjoyable and a few were really really great. I have also to admit that I have excluded my favorite from the list, I just don’t want to share :-).
Here goes:
Name: Iveta (Czech
Nationality: Czech
Age: ~25
Height: 1.70m (5’7”)
Haircolor: Black
Impression: Somewhat jaded and a little bit on guard, but the sex was fine & unrushed. As many of the especially younger girls she very quickly asked if I wanted to go upstairs.
Last Seen: ~ 6 months ago
No. of Sessions: 1
Repeat: Probably not
Name: Foxy
Nationality: Czech
Age: ~25
Height: 1.68m (5’6”)
Haircolor: Light Brown
Impression: A good performer with great big natural breasts who really tried to give a me a PSE. Which was a nice change for the straight (sweet) fucks my sessions usually are.
Last Seen: ~ Last Month
No. of Sessions: 2
Repeat: Yes
Name: Lizzie
Nationality: Moldavian
Age: ~27
Height: 1.78m (5’10”)
Hair: Light brown wavy hair
Impression: I really like her walk, to see her beautiful long legs. So I approached her and didn’t waste time with chit chat. In the room she was a good performer and was attentive to my wishes for change of positions etc.
Last Seen: ~ Last Month
No. of Sessions: 1
Repeat: Yes
Name: Shania (Not completely sure about the spelling).
Nationality: Moldavian
Age: ~22
Height: 1.60m (5’3”)
Hair: Blond
Impression: She was a real firecracker, so nice and sweet before, during and after the session. She gave real intense DFK and was so hot that I had no problem coming even though it was my third time that day.
Last Seen: ~ Last Month
No. of Sessions: 2
Repeat: Without a doubt
Name: Miriam
Nationality: German
Age: ~22
Height: 1.65m (5’5”)
Hair: Red (Colored)
Impression: A talkative girl from East Germany. Good company in and outside the room. The sex was fine and unrushed.
Last Seen: ~ Last Month
No. of Sessions: 2
Repeat: Yes
Name: Linda (?)
Nationality: German
Age: ~28
Height: 1.65m (5’5”)
Hair: Black (Colored)
Impression: A Berlin girl. Good company but quickly wanted a one hour session, about 10 minutes into the session. I however have to say that she seems very popular with other men, so YMMV.
Last Seen: ~ January 08
No. of Sessions: 1
Repeat: No
Name: Katja
Nationality: Russian
Age: ~27
Height: 1.70m (5’7”)
Hair: Long wavy blond hair
Impression: A clear favorite of mine. I almost always have a session with her when we both are there and she’s available. She’s just great.
Last Seen: ~ Last Month
No. of Sessions: minimum 6
Repeat: Yes Yes Yes
Name: Selina
Nationality: Lithuania
Age: ~27
Height: 1.73m (5’8”)
Hair: Straight light brown hair
Impression: Others have reported she is a bit moody, but I must have been lucky because all of my 3 sessions with her was great. She’s really energetic in the bed.
Last Seen: ~ 3 Months ago
No. of Sessions: 3
Repeat: Yes
Name: Valentina
Nationality: Lithuania
Age: ~26
Height: 1.70m (5’7”)
Hair: Straight blond hair
Impression: I found her to be really sweet and also fun. Great performer.
Last Seen: ~ 3 Months ago
No. of Sessions: minimum 3
Repeat: Yes
Name: Carmen
Nationality: Spanish
Age: ~27
Height: 1.68m (5’6”)
Hair: Straight black hair
Impression: I really like light skinned girls with black/brown eyes, so I naturally had to try out Carmen. It was a small disappointment though, the sex was a little to much robotsex, but OK I’m no Brad Pitt, so who can blame her.
Last Seen: ~ 1 Month ago
No. of Sessions: minimum 1
Repeat: No
Name: Remy (unsure about the spelling)
Nationality: Bulgarian
Age: ~27
Height: 1.60m (5’3”)
Hair: Curvy Black hair
Impression: I really think she has a beautiful face, but she always looks sad. I enjoyed our session, but was sadly unable to put a smile on her face. She is really sweet but are also focused on quickly getting to the sale. She’s not one for chit chat.
Last Seen: ~ Last Month
No. of Sessions: 1
Repeat: Probably not
Name: Martina
Nationality: Hungarian
Age: ~30
Height: 1.63m (5’4”)
Hair: Short Blond hair
Impression: I’ve read about her on this forum and the report was quite accurate. She is a sheerful and warm sensible girl who was a pleasure to talk to and have sex with.
Last Seen: ~ 2 months ago
No. of Sessions: 1
Repeat: Yes
Name: Angelina
Nationality: Polish
Age: ~22
Height: 1.75m (5’9”)
Hair: Medium length Blond hair
Impression: I found her to be very attractive with perfect (for me) breasts, not too big, not too small, just right :-). The session was nice and unrushed. She also seem to be very sheerful around the club, but somehow she seems to me a little ditsy. Think Goldie Hawn. Is this a bad thing, probably not, you judge for yourselfes.
Last Seen: ~ 1 months ago
No. of Sessions: 1
Repeat: Probably not
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Artemis on Sunday
May someone tells me if Sunday is as good as other days in Artemis?
How many girls I could find there per shift?
Thanks
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[QUOTE=DkFatBastard]Lots of info....[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info DkFatBastard. Can you tell me whether Artemis is a good place to visit in the summertime? Some say that the selection of girls is smaller then compared to the rest of the year. I'm thinking about going there in July this summer but if business then is really slow I might postpone it until later on.
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[QUOTE=Kvaser]Thanks for the info DkFatBastard. Can you tell me whether Artemis is a good place to visit in the summertime? Some say that the selection of girls is smaller then compared to the rest of the year. I'm thinking about going there in July this summer but if business then is really slow I might postpone it until later on.[/QUOTE]I was at Artemis in July last year and there was no noticeable dropoff in the number of girls. Even if there was, they have enough girls on the roster to keep u happy.
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[QUOTE=DkFatBastard]Name: Foxy
Nationality: Czech
Age: ~25
Height: 1.68m (5’6”)
Haircolor: Light Brown
Impression: A good performer with great big natural breasts who really tried to give a me a PSE. Which was a nice change for the straight (sweet) fucks my sessions usually are.
Last Seen: ~ Last Month
No. of Sessions: 2
Repeat: Yes
Name: Shania (Not completely sure about the spelling).
Nationality: Moldavian
Age: ~22
Height: 1.60m (5’3”)
Hair: Blond
Impression: She was a real firecracker, so nice and sweet before, during and after the session. She gave real intense DFK and was so hot that I had no problem coming even though it was my third time that day.
Last Seen: ~ Last Month
No. of Sessions: 2
Repeat: Without a doubt
Name: Selina
Nationality: Lithuania
Age: ~27
Height: 1.73m (5’8”)
Hair: Straight light brown hair
Impression: Others have reported she is a bit moody, but I must have been lucky because all of my 3 sessions with her was great. She’s really energetic in the bed.
Last Seen: ~ 3 Months ago
No. of Sessions: 3
Repeat: Yes
Name: Carmen
Nationality: Spanish
Age: ~27
Height: 1.68m (5’6”)
Hair: Straight black hair
Impression: I really like light skinned girls with black/brown eyes, so I naturally had to try out Carmen. It was a small disappointment though, the sex was a little to much robotsex, but OK I’m no Brad Pitt, so who can blame her.
Last Seen: ~ 1 Month ago
No. of Sessions: minimum 1
Repeat: No
[/blue][/size][/QUOTE]I was at Artemis tonight and saw both Foxy and Shania. Selina was not working and I have not seen Carmen there since December.
First, both Selina and Shania are my top 2 at Artemis.
Shania is just a sweet girl and gives a great performance each time I've seen her. I asked for 1 hour tonight but we easily went over that. Closer to 90 minutes. Only charged me for the hour. Fantastic BBBJ and enthusiastic CFS. Even spent a good 20 min on DATY trying to get her off like last time but didn't happen this time. But she let me continue while most of the other girls would have stopped in less than 5 or 10 min. She seems to enjoy it and lets me continue as long as I am able. Passionate DFK. We switched from DATY, BBBJ, CFS multiple times during the hour-plus, and she was clearly putting in a lot of effort (always with a smile and more DFK). She was very tired and sweaty but the end. Can't recommend her enough. Everyone should treat her nice, be clearn and she will reciprocate with top notch performance.
As for Selina, its hard for me to decide which I prefer, her or Shania. A good problem to have. When they are both working, I have a hard time doing a session with any other girls. I have not had any moody attitude from Selina as others seem to report. Always enthusiastic with the BBBJ and CFS, with BLS. Even when I have a hard time finishing (usually happens when she is the 3rd or 4th session of an evening), she will not resort to HJs, but insists on continuing with the BBBJ or CFS. She doesn't like to see me leave with only a HJ finish. I also enjoy that Selina does not try to upsell into CIM or Anal (don't think Shania offers either). She will also go over the time when necessary without asking for additional fees.
I tip both girls a little (I know I know, I shouldn't, but with the service I get and the overtime they put in, I feel its well deserved). Also, I have become regulars with both so I probable get better service. But if you treat them nicely and you are clean and freshly shorwed, anyone should be able to get top servide.
I have seen Carmen only once and it was a fantastic experience. Have been waiting for her to return a couple of months now. The one session was my best session ever at Artemis. She may be a bit mechanical as DKFatBastard reports, but since I only had the one session, that was hard to judge. It started with a nice BBBJ for 5 min then I started DATY. After a few minute, she was really getting into it and was clearly trying to climax. She likes a more vigorous DATY and took me a few min to figure that out. We spend about 20 min on the DATY and she was really getting into it. Lots of buckling and at the end, the loudest cream I have heard in a long time from any girl. Based on taste, texture and the wettness, she clearly had an orgasm. She had me finger her to show it was genuine. Then we spend another 20 min on getting me to finish with more BJ, DFK and CFS. The session lasted 45-50 min but she only charged me for 30. She said she felt a bit guilty that I spent so much time trying to get her off so I guess she didn't charge me for the extra time. Would love to repeat the next time she is in town.
Also had my first session with Foxy tonight. By face alone, I think she is top 5 at Artemis (IMO). Very beautiful I think, with nice shapely figure, great tits. A bit disppointed b/c she did not allow DFK, and had me stop the DATY rather quicke than I like. Also during the intercourse, she would manuever her hands and body so that I could not get deep penetration Definitely not a PSE for me. But I would repeat one more time b/c if she loosens up a bit (maybe with repeat customers? ), she would be someone I can see repeatly.
Just my two cents.
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[QUOTE=Jayleesf]I was at Artemis in July last year and there was no noticeable dropoff in the number of girls. Even if there was, they have enough girls on the roster to keep u happy.[/QUOTE]Allright Jayleesf. Looks like I can plan my summer holiday like I wanted to from the start then. I'm really looking forward to it!
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[QUOTE=DkFatBastard]Name: Lizzie
Nationality: Moldavian
Age: ~27
Height: 1.78m (5’10”)
Hair: Light brown wavy hair
Impression: I really like her walk, to see her beautiful long legs.[/QUOTE]Sounds like Lizzie, formerly Oase?
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Hi Kvaser
I agree with Jayleesf. I haven't noticed a significent drop off in the summer time. And Berlin has so many alternatives for mongering if you don't find what you like at Artemis (hard to believe for me :-)). Also Berlin is great in the summer, lots to see and do between club visits.
[QUOTE=Kvaser]Thanks for the info DkFatBastard. Can you tell me whether Artemis is a good place to visit in the summertime? Some say that the selection of girls is smaller then compared to the rest of the year. I'm thinking about going there in July this summer but if business then is really slow I might postpone it until later on.[/QUOTE]
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I've only tried one sunday in Artemis, and like the rest of the city it's very quiet on that day. And On sunday and monday pensioners and taxidrivers get half off the entrance fee, so the audience is a bit older.
[QUOTE=Toptraveler1]May someone tells me if Sunday is as good as other days in Artemis?
How many girls I could find there per shift?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
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I've never been to Oase, but there does seem to be quite a few former Oase girls at Artemis.
[QUOTE=Toscana]Sounds like Lizzie, formerly Oase?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=DkFatBastard]I have also to admit that I have excluded my favorite from the list, I just don’t want to share :-).[/QUOTE]No problem! Really! We all know that this special woman takes over the sharing part while having a lot of other men every night! ;-)
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What!!! Are you saying she's cheating on me!! That little b****. She swore I was her only customer :-)
[QUOTE=Nick The G]No problem! Really! We all know that this special woman takes over the sharing part while having a lot of other men every night! ;-)[/QUOTE]
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First of all thanks to everyone who has posted some information about this club and the girls. I was in Berlin last week and decided to give the club a try on Tuesday 18th. I have had most of my mongering experience in GT/PHG and Samya in NRW where the prices are a bit lower than in Artemis and 99% of the girls will kiss. After reading that most of the girls in Artemis don't kiss I was a bit unsure of whether to bother with the club but I had had enough of walking around the city and it was freezing outside with snow flurries.
I arrived at the club at about 1pm and was asked by the receptionist if I had visited before. I replied that this was my first time and she explained the rules - €70 entry, there are small lockers near the reception for your wallet and this is where you pay the girl after a session, lockers for your clothes are around the corner, €60 for 30 mins of fun with the girls and anything extra is between you and the girl. The website mentions that you have the choice of wearing a towel or a robe but I was just given a robe and didn’t see anyone wearing a towel when I was there.
After showering I had a good look around. Even though it was early there was already some live action in one of the sex kinos, which was promising. The girls were in the smoking part of the complex on the first floor and most of them stayed there all of the time however there were 2 particular women who would go down to the sauna/pool area on the lower ground floor and tout for business. The first thing that struck me about the girls is that there was a large amount of silicon on show. This isn’t something that I’m into as I prefer natural breasts rather than grabbing hold of a couple of balloons but there was plenty of choice on offer. After a short time investigating the club I noticed Franziska. She reminded me of a girl I used to know a few years ago and knew I had to have her. She is a real petite type, which is the type of girl I like.
Name: Franziska
Nationality: Rumanian
Appearance: 5’ 1” tall with C/D cup natural breasts, a slim, petite body with a really cute smile. Bleach blond with dark roots. She actually reminded me of Patricia Arquette in the film True Romance who was horny as hell!!
Face: 8.5
Body: 9
Session: Like most Rumanian women in the clubs she speaks near perfect English. She has been working 1/2 weeks in Artemis and then 1/2 weeks in Palace and will be heading back to Palace and then Rumania shortly. She only gave a couple of light kisses but may provide DFK in Palace. A good overall session and after we had finished we sat around chatting for 5/10 mins until the time was up. She is a bit shy but I have the impression that she would open up a bit more with repeat sessions.
Overall: 8.5
Repeat: Yes
A couple of saunas later and it was time for another session. A few girls had approached me to see if I was interested but I was biding my time until the evening shift came in. I was very tempted to have a session with Sabrina from Köln who is about 5’ 9” tall, with long fair hair and had tattoos of roses all up her arm but was approached by Shiva who had that dirty look about her.
Name: Shiva
Nationality: Czech. Her parents are Indian and Czech.
Appearance: 5’ 2” tall with C/D cup silicon (you can’t tell) breasts, a slim, petite body with a really nice personality
Face: 7.5
Body: 8
Session: Shiva provides a real PSE with DFK, deep throat, ball-licking and sucking, etc. We had a bit of action in the kino and then moved on to a room. Once we were in the room she asked if I wanted an hour or CIM but she didn’t say this as if she was upselling, it was more just to let me know what she offered.
Overall: 8, a great PSE session with several positions
Repeat: Yes
After the session Shiva I said that I was probably done and wouldn’t be going to the room anymore. Shiva said she could make me cum again and then told me that she had made one guy cum 4 times in one hour the previous day. I had no doubt that she was telling the truth and this girl has pretty much the same attitude as Regi in GT in that she just loves sex.
I was toying with the idea of having another session with Shiva but she had disappeared to the room with another man so I had a couple of saunas and then headed off.
Overall the club is definitely worth visiting. It has great facilities and plenty of women to suit everyone’s taste. The food is pretty decent although nothing to get excited about but probably the best thing about the club is the music in the main room. I don’t know if it’s the same every day but when I was there they were playing rock music all of the time – GnR, NIN, Eric Clapton, The Rolling Stones, etc., which is a lot better than the inane German dance/techno music that they normally play in these clubs.
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Hi Warsteiner
I have sometimes seen guys only wearing a towel. Usually it's younger guys that have very athletic upper bodies. I presume they do this in an attempt to attract more girls, I guess especially the younger ones. I have no idea whether it's working or not. It could also be because they find the robes to warm. The newest robes they have at the club are quite thick and warm. I always try to get a thinner robe, but they don't always have it in my size (5XL) :-(
[QUOTE=Warsteiner]... The website mentions that you have the choice of wearing a towel or a robe but I was just given a robe and didn’t see anyone wearing a towel when I was there...
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Why would you have them come to your room?
[QUOTE=Chame7777]Heading through Berlin and staying for two days at this hotel CROWNE PLAZA BERLIN CITY CENTRE, NUERNBERGERSTRASSE 65 anyone know any good GFE's that will either come to the hotel or close enough for me to walk to? [/QUOTE]
Room service is probably available in Berlin but pricing would be astronomical and it wouldn't make sense considering you would have a nice selection of women by visiting this club and can spend the whole day there sampling them.
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This is my advice too
[QUOTE=Dedalus]Play it by ear. If after talking with her for a few minutes you don't get a laugh or a smile, then move on.[/QUOTE]
If she doesn't crack a smile or laugh at your jokes, move on.
I like going with a bitchy ice queen every now and then (it cleanses the palate, so to speak), but generally women who are business-like outside of the room are also likely to be business-like in the Zimmer.
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How is it the Artemis during the summer?
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[QUOTE=Sannita Sos]How is it the Artemis during the summer?[/QUOTE]Dear Sannita, IMHO when in Paradise you won't have any knownledge of seasons, so don't bother about but fuck.
Just to answer, I could only imagine that our beloved sex machines will waste our money in their Augusts. Maybe in the same days you will waste your money with your girlfriend.
Cheers
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Do you think any of these girls will spend the night back in the hotel for 400 euro?
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If this club is typical...
[QUOTE=CurrymasalaNYC]Do you think any of these girls will spend the night back in the hotel for 400 euro?[/QUOTE]
.. (and most clubs are), they frown on this kind of activity because they don't get their cut of the transaction.
Its probably available but why would you bother?
At the club itself you'd have safety, it would cost less and you'd have a large selection of women to choose from.
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[QUOTE=CurrymasalaNYC]Do you think any of these girls will spend the night back in the hotel for 400 euro?[/QUOTE]
Check the Berlin section of the board and you will find links to brothels/escorts who will spend the night in your hotel. One of the reasons that the girls like working in FKK clubs is because of the safety aspect, which means that you 'may' get a girl to go 'private' for you but it will probably only happen after you have built up a relationship with her over a lengthy period of time.
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Condoms
Do you guys whether it's possible to bring your own condoms to Artemis? I just want to make sure that I'll get the kind that suits me the best.
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[QUOTE=Kvaser]Do you guys whether it's possible to bring your own condoms to Artemis? I just want to make sure that I'll get the kind that suits me the best.[/QUOTE]No problem.
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[QUOTE=Kvaser]Do you guys whether it's possible to bring your own condoms to Artemis? I just want to make sure that I'll get the kind that suits me the best.[/QUOTE]
I really don't understand why more guys don't bring their own. If you are paying 50E, what is 50 cents more?
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[QUOTE=Kvaser]Do you guys whether it's possible to bring your own condoms to Artemis? I just want to make sure that I'll get the kind that suits me the best.[/QUOTE]
Yes, it's fine. I always take my own to all of the clubs. I ask the girl as we enter the room if it's ok and they normally have a quick look over the condom to make sure that the packet hasn't been opened but there's never a problem.
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[QUOTE=DkFatBastard]I've only tried one sunday in Artemis, and like the rest of the city it's very quiet on that day. And On sunday and monday pensioners and taxidrivers get half off the entrance fee, so the audience is a bit older.[/QUOTE]DkFatBastard,
Thanks for the advice. I am going to Berlin for 4 days in August over a weekend and into Monday. The main purpose of my visit is actually tourism but since Artemis is around I may find the time to pop my head in the door. It seems the advice is to do Artemis on my Friday night and Saturday night and do the tourist things in the Friday and Saturday days and all of Sunday and Monday. I have no problem with an older clientele bring older myself. I am no longer a fresh faced young lad.
Kind regards
Londonbasketcase
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Parking at Artemis
Is there parking for Artemis guests? If not what is the going rate in Berlin around Artemis?
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There are parking by Artemis, but every time I have been there it fills up pretty quick. The price for parking in the streets I don't know, as I don't bring a car.
[QUOTE=ValeVincent]Is there parking for Artemis guests? If not what is the going rate in Berlin around Artemis?[/QUOTE]
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Parking
[QUOTE=ValeVincent]Is there parking for Artemis guests? If not what is the going rate in Berlin around Artemis?[/QUOTE]
Yes, Artemis has a parking lot. You should try there, because just around Artemis there are only several highways, and it seems to be quite difficult – if not impossible – to park there. There are quieter neighbourhoods in the back of Artemis where you'd probably find some parking space. I'm not from Berlin myself but I think, usually – for longer stays – you need to have a vignette in Berlin or if there are coin-machines, you need to pay. And you have to find your way back again. ;–)
But try at Artemis and if it seems occupied, ask at the reception and they probably find a place for your car. They should be helpful since you are their guest.
Cheers
Globus
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Hi,
This is my first post on this site so excuse me if I'm not posting on the correct topic etc.
I visited Artemis two weeks ago on a Saturday. I had previously been there once before, also on a Saturday but could only stay an hour so wanted to sample it a bit more thoroughly this time.
I arrived at approx 6:00, changed and entered the main bar area. At this time it was noticable that there were quite a number of men in this area, a lot more than the previous time I was there. It wasn't too uncomfortable, just less places to sit and more competition for the hot girls.
I bided my time and observed the various girls on offer before deciding on picking Ivanna from Czech Republic. She was about 5'9, blond hair (not bleached) and great body, and she said she was 24. I wasn't going to be too adventurous, so she gave quick CBJ, then couple of positions and ended in doggie. I asked her for DFK but she declined, and it just seemed boring to her which is not a good vibe for a newbie!
After her I went for something to eat in the kitchen (very nice) and took a stroll of the wellness area. I spent some time in the pool and sauna before going into the kino. At this stage it was about 7. 30 and even then the kino had not much space left, and not many good looking girls there, so I didn't wait long before going back to the bar. There were a group of young men that were treating the hotter girls to some champagne so they were off-limits, but I spotted a very cute girl across from the bar that seemed very chatty. She was very interested in a man at the bar but as she was walking away I caught her eye and she came over to me.
Her name was Rihanna, from Moldova and was 21. Blond hair, about 5'6, great set and killer smile. She said that I would be her last customer because she was working all day. I had planned on doggie again, but she gave great BBBJ so I decided to pay the extra €50 (€110 total) for CIM, and it was worth it. Would definitely recommend her again.
If I was to go back again, I would recommend going earlier before the crowds of older men appear, as it would mean a lot more choice on offer.
Hope this helps.
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Hey Guys,
I'm going to Artemis for my second time next weekend (9/10 May).
Does anybody know whether Russian Anna (or Hannah) 28-ish, tall, slim, gorgeous, with knee length stockings is still working there.
On my first visit (Dec 2007) I had 4 sessions with her over 2 days. She was a great GFE. I really hope she'll be there (fingers crossed).
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[QUOTE=Scrambledeggs]
I wasn't going to be too adventurous, so she gave quick CBJ, then couple of positions and ended in doggie.
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Was the cbj by choice? Never had a cbj in an FKK in my 3 years of fun.
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[QUOTE=Vito Corleone]Was the cbj by choice? Never had a cbj in an FKK in my 3 years of fun.[/QUOTE]Not by choice, not that I complained either. It was my first time with this girl, so maybe if I had known her better and been a regular customer it may have been different.
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What about time?
Sorry but I have two questions:
1. If I paid the entrance fee, stayed for a while, may I go outside fot a couple of hours and then go back (in the same day) on the same entrance fee - or I must pay every enter?
2. ussualy the pool are used by the clients withe the swim suits on? You konw I am just a shiny guy.
Tnks
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Hi Edie
You can leave the club and return later without paying the entry fee again.
I haven't seen anyone using the pool with swinsuits in my many visits. Perhaps you should take this oppurtunity to get over your shyness :-)
[QUOTE=Edie72]Sorry but I have two questions:
1. If I paid the entrance fee, stayed for a while, may I go outside fot a couple of hours and then go back (in the same day) on the same entrance fee - or I must pay every enter?
2. ussualy the pool are used by the clients withe the swim suits on? You konw I am just a shiny guy.
Tnks[/QUOTE]
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Are you shy or shiny?
[QUOTE=Edie72]Sorry but I have two questions:
1. If I paid the entrance fee, stayed for a while, may I go outside fot a couple of hours and then go back (in the same day) on the same entrance fee - or I must pay every enter?
2. ussualy the pool are used by the clients withe the swim suits on? You konw I am just a shiny guy.
Tnks[/QUOTE]
I've not met anyone who shines yet (man or woman). :)
You certainly would make an impression!
No, nobody goes around with swim trunks. Its just not considered cool.
I have been to clubs in OWL where the dudes did wear underwear but they were about the only clubs I've ever been to where they did that.
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Edie72 - The Weather Report
Just "plunge in" Edie, you'll have a better time than you can (probably) even imagine.
Simply remember the Weather Report when you are there in FKK-land: "If it's nice out, leave it out". Enjoy and report in on your adventure. We look forward to it.
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Thanks for the report
[QUOTE=Scrambledeggs]Hi,
I visited Artemis two weeks ago on a Saturday. I had previously been there once before, also on a Saturday but could only stay an hour so wanted to sample it a bit more thoroughly this time.
I arrived at approx 6:00, changed and entered the main bar area. At this time it was noticable that there were quite a number of men in this area, a lot more than the previous time I was there. It wasn't too uncomfortable, just less places to sit and more competition for the hot girls.
If I was to go back again, I would recommend going earlier before the crowds of older men appear, as it would mean a lot more choice on offer.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the write up. I will be visiting Berlin for 4 days in August and will be doing some research on where to stay to see the sights but also be within striking distance of Artemis as the main FKK in the area.
It seems Saturday is a good night and as I am also in town on Friday I expect to visit for both of those days and maybe also Sunday too leaving on Monday.
I am not sure about girls giving covered blow job as standard. I do not think my penis would enjoy that. Pricing is a bit higher than down South in Hesse and more than NRW. I think I will just have to wear the cost as this is the local pricing.
Cheers,
LBC
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Hi LBC
I don't think you have to worry too much about only getting cbj. In my 20-30 visits I have only once had an cbj and the girl asked beforehand if it was ok. And I have never asked about it before going to the room... Friday and Saturday are good days to visit Artemis only getting really crowded after midnight unless there's a big trade fair (messe) in the Messecenter. I usually avoid Artemis at those times because the good girls are really busy. On the other hand you'll see people having sex almost anywhere in club when it's busiest, even on the stairs :-). Sunday are really slow in my experience, but it's been almost 2 years since I last bothered to visit on a sunday.
[QUOTE=Londonbasketcase]Thanks for the write up. I will be visiting Berlin for 4 days in August and will be doing some research on where to stay to see the sights but also be within striking distance of Artemis as the main FKK in the area.
It seems Saturday is a good night and as I am also in town on Friday I expect to visit for both of those days and maybe also Sunday too leaving on Monday.
I am not sure about girls giving covered blow job as standard. I do not think my penis would enjoy that. Pricing is a bit higher than down South in Hesse and more than NRW. I think I will just have to wear the cost as this is the local pricing.
Cheers,
LBC[/QUOTE]
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@DkFatBastard
[QUOTE=DkFatBastard]Hi LBC
I don't think you have to worry too much about only getting cbj. In my 20-30 visits I have only once had an cbj and the girl asked beforehand if it was ok. And I have never asked about it before going to the room... Friday and Saturday are good days to visit Artemis only getting really crowded after midnight unless there's a big trade fair (messe) in the Messecenter. I usually avoid Artemis at those times because the good girls are really busy. On the other hand you'll see people having sex almost anywhere in club when it's busiest, even on the stairs :-). Sunday are really slow in my experience, but it's been almost 2 years since I last bothered to visit on a sunday.[/QUOTE]
DkFatBastard,
That you for your feedback on Artermis. I think I am going to enjoy Artemis.
One person has told me that the kino design at Artemis is one of the best in Germany. I am quite fond of getting a BBBJ in the kino. Another reports that the kino is quite small compared to say Palace or even Oase so that is maybe not so good. The kino is on the lower level I understand where the swimming pool is. I suppose I will find out for myself.
Getting a BBBJ on the stairs in full view of people would be an experience to record. I hope that that happens to me during one of my expected four visits to Artemis across the 4 days.
Another point was the reference to lots of "older guys" coming in by scambledeggs. It appears that older guys is a bad thing. I am sorry but I think I might be one of those older guys. I am no spring chicken - gone are the days where I can recover in like 15 minutes and go again (although I did this twice in the last two months - once in Goldentime with a dyed blonde girl. The second time was at Oase where I sessioned with two different blonde Eastern European girls in succession finishing with one then going onto the other. I do need about 2 hours of recovery or I am rushed or pushed for time like needing to catch a plane I will try again within 1.5 hours. Its all a matter of pace and timing. So I guess this older guy leaves the door open to you younger guys to bag the best birds for the pot.
Anyway, looking forward to Berlin's sights, food, drink and the girls at Artemis in the warm hazy days of August.
Kind regards
Londonbasketcase
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IMHO kino downstairs is the best place for been hunted.
Girls periodically patrol the place. Confortable sofas are placed in a good dark atmosphere for playing whatever you decide and separès are placed just there for shy guys.
On the contrary the main kino is sometimes too crowded.
I'm looking to be there again next July.
[QUOTE=Londonbasketcase]DkFatBastard,
That you for your feedback on Artermis. I think I am going to enjoy Artemis.
One person has told me that the kino design at Artemis is one of the best in Germany. I am quite fond of getting a BBBJ in the kino. Another reports that the kino is quite small compared to say Palace or even Oase so that is maybe not so good. The kino is on the lower level I understand where the swimming pool is. I suppose I will find out for myself.
Getting a BBBJ on the stairs in full view of people would be an experience to record. I hope that that happens to me during one of my expected four visits to Artemis across the 4 days.
Another point was the reference to lots of "older guys" coming in by scambledeggs. It appears that older guys is a bad thing. I am sorry but I think I might be one of those older guys. I am no spring chicken - gone are the days where I can recover in like 15 minutes and go again (although I did this twice in the last two months - once in Goldentime with a dyed blonde girl. The second time was at Oase where I sessioned with two different blonde Eastern European girls in succession finishing with one then going onto the other. I do need about 2 hours of recovery or I am rushed or pushed for time like needing to catch a plane I will try again within 1.5 hours. Its all a matter of pace and timing. So I guess this older guy leaves the door open to you younger guys to bag the best birds for the pot.
Anyway, looking forward to Berlin's sights, food, drink and the girls at Artemis in the warm hazy days of August.
Kind regards
Londonbasketcase[/QUOTE]
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Hotel Advice kindly requested
**Hotel Advice kindly requested for: Berlin Hotels Near Artermis**
Hi All,
I am visiting Berlin for a holiday near the end of August 2008 and was looking at visiting FKK Artemis for each of my 4 days as a relaxation venue interspersed with sightseeing.
I have visited a number of the NRW clubs several times and also the Hessen clubs several times. Those trips were all about the mongering or punting but this trip is about the sightseeing as well as the punting. That said I know the Artemis club is open from 11am to 5am so if I happen to close the club at 5am which I expect to do given what I do in NRW and Hessen I want to be able to stagger back to my hotel instead of trying to track down a taxi and having to pay for it when I could get a room close by. I will not have a hire car.
I was hoping for some assistance from other visitors to Artemis who have done something similar and can provide advice on accommodation. I also do want to see the sights of Berlin but this will be during the day time and the evening is to be at the FKK Artemis for adult fun. As I do want to see sights I would like my hotel to be near public transport as well but I do not mind being a bit further out as I know with public transport you can get to places fairly quick by linking into the network.
I do not mind basic accommodation as I do expect to spend much time in my room. I am also happy to share showers and bathrooms. I also do not expect to be picking any girls up or hiring in escorts to my room as I will be doing my punting at Artemis or even la Folie or other brothels or private houses in Berlin. However, Artemis is my main aim in terms of punting due to my experience of Hessen FKKs and NRW sauna clubs.
I have done a bit of research and the recommendation for the closest is the Hotel Kronzprinz which is like less than 1km (10 minutes walk away) away from Artemis per Google Earth. Hotel Kronzprinz is not the cheapest at €78 a night per [url]www.booking.com[/url].
Hotel Kronprinz Berlin
Kronprinzendamm 1, 10711 Berlin
Built in 1894, the Hotel Kronprinz Berlin is housed within a lovingly restored Wilhelminian-era building just off the renowned shopping street Kurfürstendamm in Berlin's elegant West End. Guests don't just stay overnight at the Hotel Kronprinz Berlin; this is where guests can really live. Relax and enjoy some pleasant conversation in our lounge or to rummage through our interesting library. Make use of our conference facilities and explore the exciting and vibrant capital city. Rooms: 75.
I have been quoted by www. Booking.com the price of €234 for 3 nights or €78 per night in a standard single room included in room price: buffet breakfast, VAT, service charges.
The cheapest place I could find on [url]www.booking.com[/url] is Jugendgästehaus St.-Michaels-Heim which is 2.1 km away which is a good 20 minute walk away. Looking at the map there is no U bahn or s bahn close by so regardless of the cheap and cheerfulness I think this is not good if I wish to be a tourist using public transport. Does anyone have any further observations that may sway my view of this venue? It is such a shame as the price is very good at €21 per night.
Jugendgästehaus St.-Michaels-Heim
Bismarckallee 23, 14193 Berlin
The St. Michaels Heim is located in a quiet, affluent residential area at Lake Herthasee in the borough of Berlin-Grunewald. In only a few minutes you reach the popular Kurfürstendamm with its restaurants and shops. The Grunewald Forest is a beautiful place for a relaxing stroll in the fresh air. In the former Mendelssohn Palace you will find not only a youth hostel and a hotel but also a church, a restaurant, various rooms for conferences and events as well as one of the most beautiful beer gardens in Berlin. Visit us and get to know Berlin in the most relaxing way.
Rooms: 40.
Single Room Prices are per room for 3 nights.
Included in room price: VAT, service charges. €63 for 3 nights or €21 per night for my particular dates.
Hotel-Pension BEROLINA in Charlottenburg which is 2.4 km away walking and costs €35 per night for the nights of my stay. This is like 25 minute walk away.
Hotel-Pension BEROLINA
Stuttgarter Platz 17, 10627 Berlin
Situated just 5 minutes from the renowned boulevard "Kurfürstendamm", 10 minutes from the exhibition grounds and 20 minutes from Tegel Airport, this small hotel-guesthouse awaits your visit in West Berlin. Important: showers and WCs are located in the hallway. Rooms: 74.
For a single at the Hotel-Pension BEROLINA for 3 nights is €105 or €35 per night.
Hotel-Pension am Lehniner Platz is 1.8 km from Artemis per Google Earth so this is over a mile away so a good 18-20 minutes walk away but appears to be good value at €42 per night. It is also near a U bahn which is also a big plus for this venue.
Hotel-Pension am Lehniner Platz
Damaschkestr. 4, 10711 Berlin
Our newly renovated 19th century hotel offers comfortable, quality rooms for tourists and business travellers; with free wireless internet access throughout the hotel and free parking on site. Just in front of our hotel-pension you will find a bus stop and the hustle and bustle of the famous Kurfürstendamm with its countless theatres, cosy cafes and shops. You can also watch the day and nightlife of this hub of cultural activity from the hotel balcony. There are very good public transport connections to Berlin's airports, the ICC-congress centre and the Hauptbahnhof (central railway station). Rooms: 7
Single Room Prices are per room for 3 nights.
Included in room price: buffet breakfast, VAT, service charges. 3 nights is €126 or €42 per night. Hotel-Pension am Lehniner Platz is near a U Bahn.
Another alternative is the Hotel Messe am Funkturm which looks like 1.5km away walking and is near a U Bahn station. I am happy with 15 minutes walk.
Hotel Messe am Funkturm
Wundtstrasse 72, 14057 Berlin
This hotel is situated in the heart of Berlin, directly opposite the International Congress Centre (ICC) and close to the Olympic Stadium. Public transport services await directly outside our front door, allowing effortless travel to/from all of Berlin’s airports, the main railway station and all parts of the city. The famous boulevard Kurfürstendamm - with its numerous boutiques, cafés and restaurants – can be reached on foot in a matter of minutes.
Rooms: 31
My estimate that Hotel Messe is 1-1.5 km from Artemis so it is a brisk 15 minute walk away.
Single room with shower for 3 nights is €150 or €50 per night.
Hotel Amelie Messe ICC
Kaiserdamm 29, 14057 Berlin
Single Room Prices are per room for 3 nights.
Included in room price: buffet breakfast, VAT, service charges. For 3 nights is €150 or €50 per night.
Ku'Damm 101 Hotel is 1.4km away from FKK Artemis and looks good in the pictures and is close to an S Bahn.
Ku'Damm 101 Hotel
Kurfürstendamm 101, 10711 Berlin
The Hotel Ku' damm 101 is situated on the famous boulevard Kurfürstendamm, and captivates with its modern, functional interiors and individual colour scheme. From here you can quickly reach the exhibition grounds.Rooms: 170.
Standard Single Room - cancellable and refundable
Prices are per room for 3 nights.
Included in room price: breakfast, VAT, service charges. €217 for 3 nights or €72.33 per night.
Early Booker Single Room - Non Refundable
Prices are per room for 3 nights.
Included in room price: breakfast, VAT, service charges. €195 for 3 nights or €65.10 per night.
Hotel Seehof
Lietzenseeufer 1, 14057 Berlin
€99 per night (€297 for 3 nights) and looks like less than 1km away from Artemis situated by the lake Lietzensee.
So these are my options. I am tending towards Hotel-Pension am Lehniner Platz but also Hotel (€42 per night) Messe am Funkturm (€50 per night) as these look relatively close and are on public transport.
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Kino sex adventures
[QUOTE=Zipron]IMHO kino downstairs is the best place for been hunted.
Girls periodically patrol the place. Confortable sofas are placed in a good dark atmosphere for playing whatever you decide and separès are placed just there for shy guys.
On the contrary the main kino is sometimes too crowded.
I'm looking to be there again next July.[/QUOTE]
Zipron,
Thank you for your feedback on the kino and what may go on. I am used to kino sex now having done it at Goldentime, Palace, Villa Vertigo and Oase.
Have a good time in July. I still have over 2 months to go before my visit in late August for 4 days.
If you have some advice on cheap hotels near Artemis then I would welcome it. Thank you.
Londonbasketcase
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I can recommend Kudamm 101
[QUOTE=Londonbasketcase]Ku'Damm 101 Hotel is 1.4km away from FKK Artemis and looks good in the pictures and is close to an S Bahn.
Ku'Damm 101 Hotel
Kurfürstendamm 101, 10711 Berlin
The Hotel Ku' damm 101 is situated on the famous boulevard Kurfürstendamm, and captivates with its modern, functional interiors and individual colour scheme. From here you can quickly reach the exhibition grounds.Rooms: 170.
Standard Single Room - cancellable and refundable
Prices are per room for 3 nights.
Included in room price: breakfast, VAT, service charges. €217 for 3 nights or €72.33 per night.
Early Booker Single Room - Non Refundable
Prices are per room for 3 nights.
Included in room price: breakfast, VAT, service charges. €195 for 3 nights or €65.10 per night.[/QUOTE]LBC,
I have stayed at Kudamm 101 a couple of times before moving to Berlin and can recommend it. It is a nice hotel and within 15min walking distance to Artemis. For taxis, since you are on Kudamm, there are always taxis around. There is also a taxi stand across the street from the hotel. For coming back to the hotel at the end of each night, there is always a line of taxis waiting in front of Artemis. I think the cost was about 5 to 7 euros per ride.
BTW, I met IrishPussyMan and he said I should get in contact with you when you come to Berlin. Let me know if you like to meet, either in the club or some other place in Berlin.
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Is There Internet Access?
Like Londonbasketcase, I am also interested to see what others say about hotels near Artemis since I will be going to Berlin for a few days in August. One question that I would add on top of Londonbasketcase's is if one is walking within say a 10 to 15 minute radius from Artemis to a local hotel, is this area safe to do so late at night?
Also, in regards to 'down' time in between girls at Artemis, is there any internet access there so I could at least check e-mail, etc.?
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[QUOTE=Londonbasketcase]**Hotel Advice kindly requested for: Berlin Hotels Near Artermis**[/QUOTE]There is also IBIS Messe. It's next to the S-bahn station Messe Nord and near U-bahn Kaiserdamm. I have stayed there and it's a 10-15 minute walk. Nothing fancy but you will survive.
"The Ibis Berlin Messe hotel is close to the ICC Congress Center and the Messegelande Exhibition Centre. Guests can visit the Kurfurstendamm, located 3 km from the hotel and enjoy the restaurants close by. It has 168 renovated, airconditioned rooms withWiFi, free public car park, a bar with snacks open 24 hours and an I Point corner on the lobby."
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@Jayleesf and meeting up at Artemis
[QUOTE=Jayleesf] I have stayed at Kudamm 101 a couple of times before moving to Berlin and can recommend it. It is a nice hotel and within 15min walking distance to Artemis. [/QUOTE]
Jayleesf, thanks for the advice on Kudamm 101. €72 a night is still a bit steep for me given the small amount of time I expect to be staying there. If I was spending a lot of time there then I would be much happier to pay that.
As it is 15 minutes walking distance then I am happy to walk to and from Artemis as I am coming in August I expect the weather to be warm and so a delight to be enjoy the evening or early morning warmth.
[QUOTE=Jayleesf] For taxis, since you are on Kudamm, there are always taxis around. There is also a taxi stand across the street from the hotel. For coming back to the hotel at the end of each night, there is always a line of taxis waiting in front of Artemis. I think the cost was about 5 to 7 euros per ride.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the inside knowledge on taxi availability near Kudamm 101. I understand that Kudamm is an extensive shopping area so I can expect tehre to be people around all the time and therefore the area should be fairly safe to walk around late at night.
If I walk I can save the €5 to €7 for a nice Kebap meat with salad and German leavened bread from the friendly local Asian vendors.
[QUOTE=Jayleesf] BTW, I met IrishPussyMan and he said I should get in contact with you when you come to Berlin. Let me know if you like to meet, either in the club or some other place in Berlin. [/QUOTE]
Great!! You meet my companion IrishPussyMan (IPM). He must still be in Asia doing his business and leisure there. Were you in the Philippines or in Thailand to meet IPM? We both had fun together before he went off to Asia.
My dates in Berlin are Friday, 22 August arriving at 09:10 at Berlin Schonefeld which I know is on the South East side of Berlin. Berlin Tegel is much closer to Artemis and I did not know that untill after I booked. Then again remember that this trip is meant to be sightseeing as well as punting for girls at Artemis.
I expect to hit the Artermis club after a day's touring in between say 5pm to 6pm. I know I will get bored of sight seeing if I know that there is moochie that I can enjoying. I may just go straight to Artemis from the airport and skip sight seeing. I do that when I am in Frankfurt heading direct from my hotel after checking in to Palace or Oase.
As for Saturday and Sunday depending on how I go with my touring I will spend my evenings in Artemis enjoying myself in the wellness and relaxation area and then finding a girl that will help relieve me of my manly esscene.
Knowing how bad I am about leaving the clubs I may end up staying to 5am closing time. This is why I needed to find a hotel close to the Artemis so I can walk home rather than spend unnecessarily on hotels, especially as public transport is so prevalent in Berlin.
On Monday, 25 August I leave from Berlin Schonefeld at 21:55 so this allows me to have a good full day in Berlin. I may fit in another day in the Artermis club leaving at say 8pm(?) but I should really be seeing the sights of Berlin not seeing my eyes pop out at all the naked girls. LOL.
Anyway, I am glad that I miss Wednesday dessous tag at Artermis as I do enjoy and prefer seeing the girls all naked.
If there is a brothel or private house that you recommend then maybe we cna try that as well. la Folie is one that I have heard about but appear to be mixed reviews as to positive all around.
Hopefully one or all of my dates of 22 to 25 August suit you for a visit together. As you are the experienced one I defer to your guidance and look forward to meeting you in person in the hallowed halls of Artemis for some punting.
Regards
Londonbasketcase
Kind regards
Londonbasketcase
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@Exoticspirit
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit] Like Londonbasketcase, I am also interested to see what others say about hotels near Artemis since I will be going to Berlin for a few days in August. [/QUOTE]
My dates are 22-25 August so maybe our dates overlap?
I expect to be sightseeing - Brandenburg Gate, Memorials, museums, bratwurst, mustard in a bun, Doner Kebaps.
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit] One question that I would add on top of Londonbasketcase's is if one is walking within say a 10 to 15 minute radius from Artemis to a local hotel, is this area safe to do so late at night?[/QUOTE]
I think the area has the Olympic stadium to the North West, the ICC to the North and then to the South East there is the Kudamm shopping district. May not be the best place but I can run fast if I need to even though I am 14 kilograms over weight.
I walk the streets of East London late at night and only get hit up for one pound for the bus home or 20 pence to make a phone call. Street kids may follow you around and throw rocks and junk at you but if you turn and march on them they usually run off.
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit]Also, in regards to 'down' time in between girls at Artemis, is there any internet access there so I could at least check e-mail, etc.? [/QUOTE]
If you have a large selection of beautiful and naked girls running around the building I don't think I want to be using the internet for porn. You have a porn movie happening for real life in the kino with boys and girls having sex all over the place.
I am looking forward to doing a slim, big boobed leggy blonde Polish or Russian girl in the kino for an audience like I do in Oase in Hesse or Goldentime in NRW.
I just enjoy watching the talent walk by spending hours making my next selection or observing the girls that I think gave good sessions or bad sessions by watching the reactions of guys returning from the room and also the interaction and body language of the girls that give that bit extra to provide a convincing GFE.
Cheers,
Londonbasketcase
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[QUOTE=Londonbasketcase]My dates are 22-25 August so maybe our dates overlap?
I expect to be sightseeing - Brandenburg Gate, Memorials, museums, bratwurst, mustard in a bun, Doner Kebaps.[/quote]I'm flying in 19th evening and out 22 morning - too bad we can't connect. I also want to see some of the museums during mornings and early afternoons.
[Quote=Londonbasketcase]If you have a large selection of beautiful and naked girls running around the building I don't think I want to be using the internet for porn. You have a porn movie happening for real life in the kino with boys and girls having sex all over the place.[/quote]
I probably need lots of recovery time so I thought that I would use the facility to its max as a spa/relaxation, chilling out place too. I would like internet to not only access my e-mail, but also to write stuff - nothing to do with porn at all - just using my time well. I would also require digestion time since I do plan to have dinner there. Getting hit on by the girls during these times might be annoying, especially if I'm in the middle of writing something.
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@Exoticspirit
@Exoticspirit,
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit] I'm flying in 19th evening and out 22 morning - too bad we can't connect.[/QUOTE]
Yes, bad luck Exoticspirit. You leave the morning that I arrive in Berlin.
Hopefully Jayleesf can pull through for me and be my companion at Artemis.
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit]I also want to see some of the museums during mornings and early afternoons.[/QUOTE]
I hope so too. I need to say I have done something besides fucking in Berlin. My friends think it is hilarious that I have no photos of my trips to the Netherlands or Germany. They always ask me about the clubs I enjoy visiting and all the girls I pick up there.
They do not go as they think Thailand is much better value for their money.
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit]I probably need lots of recovery time so I thought that I would use the facility to its max as a spa/relaxation, chilling out place too. I would like internet to not only access my e-mail, but also to write stuff - nothing to do with porn at all - just using my time well. [/QUOTE]
That is fine but in all my FKK visits I never seen someone working on their laptop except at Villa Vertigo in Grerafth. Maybe a blackberry or mobile but some clubs ban mobiles like at World. People are worried that you are filming the girls or the guys and there are a lot of guys who would not be happy knowing that they are being written about or being observed in the club.
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit] I would also require digestion time since I do plan to have dinner there. [/QUOTE]
I hope that Artemis' food is good. Hopefully to the standard of Villa Vertigo in NRW. Also as it is Summer I am hoping that there is a BBQ.
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit]Getting hit on by the girls during these times might be annoying, especially if I'm in the middle of writing something. [/QUOTE]
I find getting hit on by the right girls is what I want. Getting hit on by girls that do not interest me can be a chore especially if they do not get the hint and keep coming back asking why you will not session with them or say that I must session with them.
Cheers,
LBC
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@ararat
[QUOTE=ararat]There is also IBIS Messe. It's next to the S-bahn station Messe Nord and near U-bahn Kaiserdamm. I have stayed there and it's a 10-15 minute walk. Nothing fancy but you will survive.
"The Ibis Berlin Messe hotel is close to the ICC Congress Center and the Messegelande Exhibition Centre. Guests can visit the Kurfurstendamm, located 3 km from the hotel and enjoy the restaurants close by. It has 168 renovated, airconditioned rooms withWiFi, free public car park, a bar with snacks open 24 hours and an I Point corner on the lobby."[/QUOTE]
Thank you for the tip. Ibis hotels are part of the Accor group including Mercures and Etaps. A standard hotel. I am happy with basic accomodation - I am happy to share a bathroom and toliet. I have done so many times.
A 10-15 minute walk to and back from FKK Artemis is fine by me as I save on taxi and I also can get to public transport top see the sights of Berlin. Although 3 km walk to the Kurfurstendamm might be a tad far to walk each day in August heat so I will take the U bahn.
Cheers,
Londonbasketcase
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Hotel Bogota in Berlin
This is the one I've stayed at in Berlin.
[url]http://hotelbogotaberlin.com/bogota_e/index_e.html[/url]
Its address is Schlueterstrasse but it is right on the Kudamm.
It has an interesting history. Helmut Newton once lived in it.
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@Jackyo
[QUOTE=Jackyo]This is the one I've stayed at in Berlin.
[url]http://hotelbogotaberlin.com/bogota_e/index_e.html[/url]
Its address is Schlueterstrasse but it is right on the Kudamm.
It has an interesting history. Helmut Newton once lived in it.[/QUOTE]
Jackyo,
Thank you for the recommendation and effort of posting. I have just checked how far away it is from Artemis and it is 3 km. I think I can take the U bahn or S Bahn to Artermis but I do not relish a 3km walk back to my hotel at 5am.
Maybe the U bahns and S Bahns are operating again at 5am so it should be "klein problem, neh?"
I do like the price of €40 to €49 a night for the single with hand basin and sharing the bathroom.
Thanks again Jackyo,
Londonbasketcase
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[QUOTE=Londonbasketcase] The Ibis Berlin Messe hotel is close to the ICC Congress Center and the Messegelande Exhibition Centre. Guests can visit the Kurfurstendamm, located 3 km from the hotel and enjoy the restaurants close by. It has 168 renovated, airconditioned rooms withWiFi, free public car park, a bar with snacks open 24 hours and an I Point corner on the lobby
Thank you for the tip. Ibis hotels are part of the Accor group including Mercures and Etaps. A standard hotel. I am happy with basic accomodation - I am happy to share a bathroom and toliet. I have done so many times.
A 10-15 minute walk to and back from FKK Artemis is fine by me as I save on taxi and I also can get to public transport top see the sights of Berlin. Although 3 km walk to the Kurfurstendamm might be a tad far to walk each day in August heat so I will take the U bahn.
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Ibis Berlin Messe hotel is 1.5km from Artemis and is near U Bahns. Breakfast is served from 4am hahaha.
The price is not good as I am being quoted €70 a night. I suspect that weekend is messe time so I might be in for a busy time fighting to get the girls I want to see me in the kino.
Interesting that a double bedroom is the same cost as single bedroom at €70 per night or €210 for my 3 nights in Berlin.
Londonbasketcase
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I saw some rates from chain standards like Holiday Inn Express and Comfort Inn that were not too bad at all and they have free breakfast. I believe that the HI was not too far from Artemis. Worth looking into.
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@Exoticspirit
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit]I saw some rates from chain standards like Holiday Inn Express and Comfort Inn that were not too bad at all and they have free breakfast. I believe that the HI was not too far from Artemis. Worth looking into.[/QUOTE]
Exoticspirit,
Thanks for the tip. I'll have a look at the Holiday Inns and Comfort Inns as well. I suspect the ones I am after are near the ICC or Olympic stadium which is where Artemis is.
I just Google Earth my home to my train station and I realise each day I walk 1.5Km one way and that just takes me 15 minutes no problem so maybe hotels 3Km are okay. Broadens my circle.
I just want to sort out the this piece of my Berlin holiday booking and then not wory about it until the hazy days of August.
Next step is finding some other like minded mongers or punters like Jaysleef who are also keen to be there at the same time.
Cheers,
LBC
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Stuttgarter Platz and La Folie
[QUOTE=Londonbasketcase]Jackyo,
Thank you for the recommendation and effort of posting. I have just checked how far away it is from Artemis and it is 3 km. I think I can take the U bahn or S Bahn to Artermis but I do not relish a 3km walk back to my hotel at 5am.
Maybe the U bahns and S Bahns are operating again at 5am so it should be "klein problem, neh?"
I do like the price of €40 to €49 a night for the single with hand basin and sharing the bathroom.
Thanks again Jackyo,
Londonbasketcase[/QUOTE]
Hey LBC,
This hotel (Hotel Bogota) is within walking distance of Stuttgarter Platz (where there are strip clubs with take out) and La Folie.
Once I was visiting with a friend who wasn't into this. We'd both get back to the hotel after dinner and I'd sneak out for nocturnal visits to sample the Berlin scene.
Berlin has a street scene plus Sexkinos too. The Berlin thread has numerous listings of apartment bordellos.
The choices are amazing.
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[QUOTE=Londonbasketcase[
Maybe the U bahns and S Bahns are operating again at 5am so it should be "klein problem, neh?"[/QUOTE]If you are going to be taking in the museums like I am, I doubt that you will stay at Artemis that late anyway. For myself, I'll likely do a late afternoon to evening shift and get back to my hotel by midnight. I think the public transit still runs until 1 am during weeknights.
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Hotel suggestion: Hotel A & I Königshof
I can recommend:
Hotel A & I Königshof
Stuttgarter Platz 7
10627 Berlin-Charlottenburg
Tel.: 030 / 31 01 37 0
Fax: 030 / 31 01 37 79
It is next the S-Bahn Charlottenburg and then it is only one station from Westkreuz, that is the S-bahn station near Artemis.
The rooms have private bathrooms.
Prices 45-49 eur in not trade-fair periods.
There are other cheap hotels in Stuttgarter Platz.
Have fun at Artemis.
Buck
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Oops - I won't be in town
Lbc,
Sorry but I just realized I will not be in town that week. I will be back in the US for a couple of weeks around that time. Sorry, maybe we can meet up in Frankfurt sometime or when you are back in Berlin.
BTW, I did meet up with IPM in Thailand. He was very cool and showed me around Pattaya as it was my first visit.
Have a good trip to Berlin and hopefully we can meet at another time.
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[QUOTE=Buck Rogers]I can recommend:
Hotel A & I Königshof
Stuttgarter Platz 7
10627 Berlin-Charlottenburg
Tel.: 030 / 31 01 37 0
Fax: 030 / 31 01 37 79
It is next the S-Bahn Charlottenburg and then it is only one station from Westkreuz, that is the S-bahn station near Artemis.[/QUOTE]Sounds like a pretty good deal too. If this is only one s-bahn station from Artemis, is this walkable then? Is this a safe walk in the evening?
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@Jayleesf
Jayleesf
[QUOTE=Jayleesf]Sorry but I just realized I will not be in town that week. I will be back in the US for a couple of weeks around that time. [/QUOTE]
Jayleesf, okay, klein problem. Thank you for letting me know. I guess I am going solo on this one at the present time.
I have just under three months to go so opportunities will arise. Thank you for participating.
[QUOTE=Jayleesf]Sorry, maybe we can meet up in Frankfurt sometime or when you are back in Berlin.[/QUOTE]
I would really like meeting up with you Jayleesf in Frankfurt for the FKKs there in Berlin for the clubs, brothels, sexkinos and streetwalkers there.
[QUOTE=Jayleesf]BTW, I did meet up with IPM in Thailand. He was very cool and showed me around Pattaya as it was my first visit.[/QUOTE]
Yes, IPM is a neat guy. He is a larger than life character and knew his way around. I would be pleased to catch up with him agaib as well.
It was good to have someone show you Pattaya as I had someone do the same for me - my usual crew from London went out to Thailand I had a great time in Pattaya, Jomtien Beach, Koh Samui and Bangkok.
[QUOTE=Jayleesf]Have a good trip to Berlin and hopefully we can meet at another time. [/QUOTE]
Yes, thanks that would be good.
Cheers,
LBC
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Hotel A & I Königshof
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit]Sounds like a pretty good deal too. If this is only one s-bahn station from Artemis, is this walkable then? Is this a safe walk in the evening?[/QUOTE]I wouldn't walk since the 2 stations are not very near and the S-bahn from Westkreuz to Charlottenburg has frequent trains (I think you can take S5, S7 and S9). I wouldn't know about the real safety of the walk though.
Buck
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hotels
[QUOTE=Londonbasketcase]Zipron,
Thank you for your feedback on the kino and what may go on. I am used to kino sex now having done it at Goldentime, Palace, Villa Vertigo and Oase.
Have a good time in July. I still have over 2 months to go before my visit in late August for 4 days.
If you have some advice on cheap hotels near Artemis then I would welcome it. Thank you.
Londonbasketcase[/QUOTE]Sorry for my delay in aswering you.
My personal experience in hotels in Berlin is minimal, as my company pays for me when I am there and four-five stars hotels in Berlin mitte are the choose. I always take the tube to Kreutzberg in the afternoon and a taxi in the night.
BTW that's the reason why my experience in FKK is "Berlin oriented"
No problem in arranging a meeting in artemis with fellows.
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@Jackyo
@Jackyo
[QUOTE=Jackyo] Hey LBC,
This hotel (Hotel Bogota) is within walking distance of Stuttgarter Platz (where there are strip clubs with take out) and La Folie.[/QUOTE]
Strip clubs with take out! Cool. I do like to window shop before I buy my products and this includes working girls. This is why the FKK and saunaclub concept appeals to me so much.
The Hotel Bogoto has salubrious enough surrounds to entertain a girl in your room and is girl visitor friendly.
La Folie has mixed reviews so I might see if I can pop my head in for a tour and only commit when I see what I like.
[QUOTE=Jackyo]Once I was visiting with a friend who wasn't into this. We'd both get back to the hotel after dinner and I'd sneak out for nocturnal visits to sample the Berlin scene. [/QUOTE]
That is so clandestine. Well done.
It is like sneaking out when a kid to stay up all night while your parents sleep in bed thinking you are tucked up as well.
[QUOTE=Jackyo]Berlin has a street scene plus Sexkinos too. The Berlin thread has numerous listings of apartment bordellos. [/QUOTE]
I am not too keen on a street scene but I may indulge if the weather is hot. Maybe the Zoo gardens for a bit of extra work out? Sex kinos I need to try as I have begun to enjoy doing sex in the FKK kinos so if I cna watch porn get horny and then be relieved by a willing swinger or working girl then so much the more interesting visit to Berlin.
[QUOTE=Jackyo]The choices are amazing. [/QUOTE]
Jackyo, thank you very much - you are educating me very well in more depravities that are available for fees. Good work.
Cheers,
Londonbasketcase
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@Exoticspirit
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit]If you are going to be taking in the museums like I am, I doubt that you will stay at Artemis that late anyway. For myself, I'll likely do a late afternoon to evening shift and get back to my hotel by midnight. I think the public transit still runs until 1 am during weeknights.[/QUOTE]
Exoticspirit,
Maybe you are right. Staying up all night is going to shatter me for the next day. I have just the 4 days and using one of them for recovery or even two will make my trip just like my Hesse trips just one long sleep and fuck weekend. Fun. LOL.
Yes later afternoon to evening shift in the FKK clubs, brothels, sex kinos and strip clubs is a better option. This saves the mornings, early afternoons to see the sights in the better light.
But i just know if I like FKK Artemis like I like Hesse clubs I will want to stay to the end as I just do not want to miss the excitement and all the beautiful women parading around naked.
I must make sure I get lots of rest before I make my trip.
Kind regards
Londonbasketcase
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@Buck Rogers
[QUOTE=Buck Rogers]I can recommend:
Hotel A & I Königshof
Stuttgarter Platz 7
10627 Berlin-Charlottenburg
Tel.: 030 / 31 01 37 0
Fax: 030 / 31 01 37 79
It is next the S-Bahn Charlottenburg and then it is only one station from Westkreuz, that is the S-bahn station near Artemis.
The rooms have private bathrooms.
Prices 45-49 eur in not trade-fair periods.
There are other cheap hotels in Stuttgarter Platz.
Have fun at Artemis.
Buck[/QUOTE]
Buck Rogers,
I will have alook at your option. A train stop one more than Westkreuz sounds feasible provided the distance between the two is not onerous. I do want to be able to walk back to my hotel after a night our on the tiles at Artemis but also be on the public transport network to be able to see the sights that Berlin is renown for.
Cheers,
Londonbasketase
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[QUOTE=Exoticspirit]Sounds like a pretty good deal too. If this is only one s-bahn station from Artemis, is this walkable then? Is this a safe walk in the evening?[/QUOTE]
This hotel is next to Charlottenberg s bahn. Looking at the it is a bit of a hike compared to the options that we have discussed on this thread previously but still a feasible one as we have to weight up the noctural activities versus the day activities in getting around.
It is under consideration.
For some reason of my own mortality I do not concern myself with safely walking late at night. I do that without thinking when at home. I think I do this at home because I know where I am going and where to go to when in trouble.
In Berlin I suppose I will know less that is why I should visit in the day and get my bearings and staying in the local area means that you are not loitering in the street for too long and have a purposeful destination that you stride towards making you more confident looking and people leave you alone.
Cheers,
LBC
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I see that I've again...
[QUOTE=Londonbasketcase]Jackyo, thank you very much - you are educating me very well in more depravities that are available for fees. Good work.
Cheers,
Londonbasketcase[/QUOTE]
... contributed to someone's moral depravity!
Any more of this and the whole fabric of our society will start unraveling before our eyes. (This is the point when I let out an evil laugh... a la Dr. Evil.) :)
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Berlin Card
I won't worry if a hotel is either one or a few stops away from Artemis. I'm probably going to get one of those Berlin Welcome cards where I can get unlimited travel on the public transit. I only have two full days and part of an evening there so to make the most of it, I really don't think I should stay at the club that late in the evening perhaps with the exception of the last evening before my morning flight.
For the first evening there, I probably can't get to Artemis before 9 pm anyway and since I want to use the two mornings available for sightseeing, maybe I should just check out the other options like KD and VK for that night instead.
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@Exoticspirit
@Exoticspirit,
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit]I won't worry if a hotel is either one or a few stops away from Artemis. I'm probably going to get one of those Berlin Welcome cards where I can get unlimited travel on the public transit. [/QUOTE]
Danke schon for the tip on the Berlin card. May I ask how you purchase one? Is it at the tourist office, my mail before you visit Berlin or can it be bought at any established Berlin sight as a part of a deal or bought from a die Bahn bahnof?
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit]I only have two full days and part of an evening there so to make the most of it, I really don't think I should stay at the club that late in the evening perhaps with the exception of the last evening before my morning flight. [/QUOTE]
I see, two days, one overnight and an early evening to spend in Berlin to FKK and do whatever.
I expect to be FKKing for my evenings as I enjoy it so much. But as I have said before I do want to see the sights of Berlin as to have gone there and not seen anything is a waste.
Then again it gives me incentive to return to Berlin at another time.
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit]For the first evening there, I probably can't get to Artemis before 9 pm anyway and since I want to use the two mornings available for sightseeing, maybe I should just check out the other options like KD and VK for that night instead. [/QUOTE]
A 9pm start should be find as that still leaves 8 hours of FKK as the club closes at 5am.
May I ask what are KD and VK? I am not familiar with those acronymns.
Cheers,
Londonbasketcase
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[QUOTE=Londonbasketcase]A 9pm start should be find as that still leaves 8 hours of FKK as the club closes at 5am.
May I ask what are KD and VK? I am not familiar with those acronymns.
Cheers,
Londonbasketcase[/QUOTE]The problem with the 9 pm start at Artemis is that I want to get up at a decent hour the very next morning to take in the sights. So I figure that I'll have at least two nights there for the second and third nights. For the first night, KD is Kamilla Dee and VK is Van Kempen, two of the better known brothels in Berlin.
As for the Berlin card, see visitberlin. De for more details. It's a great website for general Berlin info. I'm going to buy one right at the airport when I arrive and use it for the bus to town.
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KD & VK are 2 renowned brothels in Berlin
[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com[/url]
[url]http://www.vankampenberlin.de/[/url]
[QUOTE=Londonbasketcase]@Exoticspirit,
May I ask what are KD and VK? I am not familiar with those acronymns.
Cheers,
Londonbasketcase[/QUOTE]
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@DkFatBastard
[QUOTE=DkFatBastard]KD & VK are 2 renowned brothels in Berlin
[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com[/url]
[url]http://www.vankampenberlin.de/[/url][/QUOTE]
DkFatBastard,
Danke schon for the explanation DkFatBastard.
Kind regards
Londonbasketcase
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The Berlin Welcome card can be purchased right at the airport which is what I intend to do. More info on it is at visitberlin. De
I have since learned that according to some general travel sites, it's really a few sections in the eastern part of Berlin that might be sketchy. The area around Artemis in the west as well as the KD and VK places seem to be quite safe.
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The former East Berlin...
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit]The Berlin Welcome card can be purchased right at the airport which is what I intend to do. More info on it is at visitberlin. De
I have since learned that according to some general travel sites, it's really a few sections in the eastern part of Berlin that might be sketchy. The area around Artemis in the west as well as the KD and VK places seem to be quite safe.[/QUOTE]
... suffers from higher unemployment than the former West Berlin. Twenty years after the [i]Wende[/i] nothing has changed.
The districts of Marzahn and Lichtenberg (not to be confused with Hennef-Lichtenberg) are centers of Neo-Nazi activity. They are pretty tough neighborhoods where post-[i]Wende[/i] discontent has spilled over into extreme behavior.
A Korean friend who was at the Uni in Dahlem lived in constant fear of falling asleep on the subway, waking up and finding himself there.
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Artemis tonight
Hi all!
Tonight (monday 9/6) and tomorrow (tuesday 10/6) I will be visiting Artemis.
Anyone else who is going to be there who'd like to meet up?
Jens
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[QUOTE=Jensvalt]Hi all!
Tonight (monday 9/6) and tomorrow (tuesday 10/6) I will be visiting Artemis.
Anyone else who is going to be there who'd like to meet up?
Jens[/QUOTE]
I'm not around until late August but we would appreciate a report on your experiences at Artemis.
Kind regards
Londonbasketcase
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Another Option Close To Artemis
Here's another option that is very close to Artemis if one doesn't feel like spending the higher prices for an Artemis visit every day. Has anyone here been to it?
[url]http://www.mona-kant74.de[/url]
I may check this place out during my first night there since is it will be a shorter night. Then go over to Artemis for nights 2 and 3 even though night 2 is a Wednesday which is suppose to be a lingerie evening.
I have booked the AI Konigshof hotel which is only one stop away from Artemis and the rate I got was about 46 euros per night which included breakfast and private bathroom.
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wednesday night
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit]Here's another option that is very close to Artemis if one doesn't feel like spending the higher prices for an Artemis visit every day. Has anyone here been to it?
[url]http://www.mona-kant74.de[/url]
I may check this place out during my first night there since is it will be a shorter night. Then go over to Artemis for nights 2 and 3 even though night 2 is a Wednesday which is suppose to be a lingerie evening.
I have booked the AI Konigshof hotel which is only one stop away from Artemis and the rate I got was about 46 euros per night which included breakfast and private bathroom.[/QUOTE]As far as the so called "lingerie" night in Artemis, beware. The majority of girls just dress their summer bikinis. I suppose we all love real lingerie, but when I planned my journey to be there on wednesday, I was a little upset. It seemed to me to be in a swimming pool! The result is that I try to avoid Wednesday
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Lingerie nights at Artemis are actually bikini nights
[QUOTE=Zipron]As far as the so called "lingerie" night in Artemis, beware. The majority of girls just dress their summer bikinis. I suppose we all love real lingerie, but when I planned my journey to be there on wednesday, I was a little upset. It seemed to me to be in a swimming pool! The result is that I try to avoid Wednesday[/QUOTE]
Hi Zipron,
Thank you for your advice that Wednesday Lingerie nights at Artemis are actually bikini nights. I suspected as such and planned my visit to be later in the week coming on a Friday and leaving on a Monday.
When I come to a FKK the girls are meant to be 100% naked and that is how I like my girls when I have sex with them except when they are dressed up as nurse, school girl, air hostess or some other uniform where an effort has been made. Then they can leave the uniform on but be braless and pantyless so I can fuck and fondle them.
I am looking forward for my warm Summer August visit to Berlin for sight seeing and a bit of business at Artemis.
Regards
Londonbasketase
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[QUOTE=Zipron]As far as the so called "lingerie" night in Artemis, beware. The majority of girls just dress their summer bikinis. I suppose we all love real lingerie, but when I planned my journey to be there on wednesday, I was a little upset. It seemed to me to be in a swimming pool! The result is that I try to avoid Wednesday[/QUOTE]I have three nights in Berlin, of which the first is a shorter night since I arrive early evening at the airport. I was planning on doing say Kamila Dee on the first night which is the short evening then spending the next two fuller nights at Artemis. Given that one of these will be a Wednesday night, I would have the option to use the Wednesday night to go to say KD again or one of the other brothels like that Mona one or even Van Kempen and leave just the last evening (nude) for Artemis.
What would you fellas do in my case? Put up with bikini night or opt for a smaller and cheaper brothel leaving just one night at Artemis?
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mona-kant74
Exoticspirit,
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit] Here's another option that is very close to Artemis if one doesn't feel like spending the higher prices for an Artemis visit every day. Has anyone here been to it?
[url]http://www.mona-kant74.de[/url]
I may check this place out during my first night there since is it will be a shorter night. [/QUOTE]
I have yet to make my maiden voyage to Berlin but just looking at the pictures of the line up is getting me horny. Looks like a few stunners there to keep the lads happy for a while and extract a few spermies.
Too bad the girls are not FKK style where they are totally naked so that you definitely know that the fund bags under that bra are as full, round and heavy was they do in the bra. Many a time has the bra cover come off and you wonder where did they go.
I say go for it Tuesday and report back here.
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit]Then go over to Artemis for nights 2 and 3 even though night 2 is a Wednesday which is suppose to be a lingerie evening.[/QUOTE]
Good idea. Wednesday is lingerie day but if the girls make an effort it is really cool seeing the different girls in uniforms or basques and stockings or French knickers. If, however, the uniform is the girls' second rate bikinis then you may as well be down at the beach. These clubs are about going to bed and so that means lingerie not bikinis. Nonetheless if the bikinis are nicely done and really tiny then that can be fun as well. Hey I suppose I am not that fussy.
Thursday should be good as you get different girls at times working the lingerie day and then others the usual naked naked. There will always be an overlap but you can get girls that don't do the lingerie days per feedback on other FKK forums where the girls go naked usually. Lingerie goes against the ethos of FKK and the interesting thing is that for some guys lingerie days are really special as they are once a week events.
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit]I have booked the AI Konigshof hotel which is only one stop away from Artemis and the rate I got was about 46 euros per night which included breakfast and private bathroom. [/QUOTE]
Thanks for the tip on the hotel and what you receive for your euros.
Cheers,
Londonbasketcase
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What to do with 3 nights in Berlin
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit]I have three nights in Berlin, of which the first is a shorter night since I arrive early evening at the airport. I was planning on doing say Kamila Dee on the first night which is the short evening then spending the next two fuller nights at Artemis. Given that one of these will be a Wednesday night, I would have the option to use the Wednesday night to go to say KD again or one of the other brothels like that Mona one or even Van Kempen and leave just the last evening (nude) for Artemis.
What would you fellas do in my case? Put up with bikini night or opt for a smaller and cheaper brothel leaving just one night at Artemis?[/QUOTE]
Exoticspirit,
I am more inclined to enjoy FKKs where the girls are naked so the day 3 Thursday could be your finale if I was you with Kant and Kamilla Dee as trhe warm ups. ON first visits aking youself do the variety thing is something I try to do as you never know what you like until you try regardless of the feedback from others.
But knowing me I would want to see the FKK first on the first night Tuesday even if it was a late start as the place closes at 5am. The Brothels of Kamila, Kant and Van Kampen are not conducive to all day stays like a FKK is so the stay is fairly transactional unless you can linger all day at the brothel until you get that stirring feeling again to go for a second pop. I don't know but if the brothels are like the London ones then there is not much to keep you occupied until you are ready to pop again. It is come in, do your pop and leave and then come back if you want more.
At a FKK you can stay all day and into the night going for several or a few pops throughout taking advantage of the €70 entritt fee. The club opens at 11am and with 5am closing that means 18 hours stay is possible working out at €3.89 per hour.
I have 4 days and 3 full nights and expect to do Artemis for 3 nights solid but I am attracted to the brothels because it is transactional so may take a day off the FKK and do brothel hopping say all three Kant, Kamilla Dee and Van Kampen.
So here goes:
Day 1 Arrive morning. Sightseeing in day, Artemis in evening to late (I want to save my testicles pregant with a week's worth of unused spermies for the FKK first day)
Day 2 Brothel hopping all day with sightseeing interspersed KD, K and VD then Artemis until late.
Day 3 sightseeing in day and then Artemis at night catching up with a preplanned meet with a forum member
Day 4 sightseeing in day - maybe a brothel visit or two then flight home.
Regards
Londonbasketcase
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Mona-Kant74
[QUOTE=Londonbasketcase]
I have yet to make my maiden voyage to Berlin but just looking at the pictures of the line up is getting me horny. Looks like a few stunners there to keep the lads happy for a while and extract a few spermies.
[/QUOTE]
You should go for the twins and assign one of the lads to each!
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Using this forum to direct my 1st time at Artemis
My first time at Artemis. First and most important. My most sincere thanks to the many brethren here that have provided extensive information that allowed me to hit the ground running for my first time at a FKK and more specifically Artemis.
This was Tuesday 17JUN08, I arrived at 1800, paid my 70 euro, showered, robed then took a tour to see the layout of the terrain prior to jumping in.
During my recon, I could not believe how incredibly pretty, sexy and well built more than 50% of the girls are there. I did as suggested by this forum making eye contact and a friendly "hello". This worked well as everyone I spoke to smiled and we exchanged names and when asked to go upstairs I politely declined and stated I was just familiarizing myself with the establishment.
After about 10 minutes, I sat at the bar ordered a coke and then turned to speak to the closest hottie near me. She was Dondria, a very cute Polish girl with pretty eyes, 36C-24-26 figure on a 5 foot 5 inch frame with pretty green eyes, alabaster skin and short blonde hair.
Wait! Did I say polish. Yep. So remembering this forum’s comments on the Polish ladies, I asked "do you kiss" and she said "not so much" so I asked, "does that mean no? " she said "mostly". So I politely declined and we continued our conversation with her explaining how great she is without kissing. I reluctantly moved on, but was placing faith in our forum that I made the right move.
I saw 2 petite exotic, brown skin ladies sitting at the bar. I walked up to them and introduced myself in a polite but strong "man on a mission" and they responded warmly.
One was named "Pia" and the other "Leki" (pronounced Licky, yeah, really).
Leki:
Leki was the prettiest and most outgoing of the 2 so we proceed into deeper conversation as her English was excellent. Leki is from Thailand, stands about 5 feet tall, 32D-20-24 body with long black hair. I asked her if she kissed and she replied, "yes I do".
Off we went to an upstairs room. We disrobed and she proceeded with a wet BBBJ with plenty of attention to the boys. She warned me that If I released in her mouth it would be okay but I would have to pay her 50 euro more. We proceeded through several positions finishing in a bit more than 30 minutes.
Face- 7/10 (very attractive but had bad teeth in shape only but not detracting)
Body – 8/10
Activity – 9/10 (BBBJ, CG, RCG, Doggy, Mish and DFK)
See Again: Yes
Martina:
I had just finishing showering walked downstairs to the Sex Kino and this 5 foot tall hottie (32C-20-22, brown eyes, shoulder length blonde, very toned 25 y. O.) stopped me and asked "do you want sex with me? ". I said "sure but where are you from? ". She replied "Hungary". We were then off to the upstairs again.
DFK and mind blowing BBBJ followed, not mechanical and really appeared to be into it and I really did not care if she was faking because it was working for me. Plenty of attention to the jewels with lots of slurping and DT. CG, Doggy and finishing in modified Mish (her legs between my legs).
Face- 10/10 (model/movie star quality)
Body – 9/10
Activity – 9/10 (BBBJ, DT, CG, Doggy, Mish and DFK).
See Again: Yes
Her picture is here: [url]http://www.fkk-artemis.de/en/girls.php[/url]
Natalie:
Next on the agenda was a tall ( 5 foot 9 inch) blonde with blue eyes. She said her name was Natalie and she was from the Ukraine. Russian women are my weakness and this was proven as I did not question her other than asking “are you ready to go up stairs?”. She had a 35B-24-28 athletic figure and voluptuous lips. Once we were undressed I then asked, “Do you kiss” and she said “no”……….What the hell!!!.
Well, we were there she was hot and we moved forward. She surprised me by immediately going down on me with a wonderful BBBJ followed by a lot of licking and nibbling. Several positions were encountered and she did do a bit of LFK which worked for me.
Face- 8/10
Body – 8/10
Activity – 8/10 (BBBJ, CG, Doggy, Mish and LFK)
See Again: Yes
At this point I had no idea what time it was nor did I care. I went to the cafeteria and had a meal and talked with a guy from Austria. We exchanged notes on some of the women and then jumped back into the action.
Mia:
I was sitting at the bar and asked the bar maid for gum or mint. She had none. I was a bit disappointed and noticed this very tanned young lady sitting beside me with chewing gum. I asked her if she had more and she said yes but it was in her suitcase. I then asked if she would procure a stick for me so that I could have fresh breath when she and I went up stairs. She laughed and said "sure! ". She returned with gum and off we went.
Mia is a 24 year older standing 5 foot 4 inches, 34B-20-24 and a smoking hot Coed look. Her english was perfect and often slid into an American accent (New York that is). We got into the room and she became a wild cat. We went at it with a lot of passion encountering BBBJ with lots of spit, DFK, DT, enthusiastic CG finishing in modified MISH. We talked some and she is of Lebanese/Italian descent and is visiting from a Frankfort FKK owned by the folks that own Artemis.
Face- 9/10
Body – 9/10
Activity – 10/10 (BBBJ, CG, RCG, Doggy, Mish and DFK)
See Again: Yes
Doria:
I went down to the sex Kino and it was empty so I sat down to relax. In a few minutes this Caramel skin cutie walks in and asks if she could go down on me and the finish me in 1 of the rooms behind the Kino. I replied to the affirmative.
I opened my robe and she gave me an incredibly wet and hot BBBJ for about 5 minutes and then we went to a room where she worked on me for another 5 – 10 minutes. She said nothing of the CIM consequence but I could tell she was trying to get 50 euros more. Her being my 5th for the night I had plenty of control and just enjoyed the sensations. After a bit I told her I wanted to penetrate her now, on with the condom and she then said "you on top", I replied "when we are on your dime I’ll be on top but for now you are on top" she complied. After a bit I rolled her over to Mish and then finished in doggy.
We talked a bit and she is from Morocco. She has brown eyes, stands 5 feet 2 inches, shoulder length black her, 36D(saggy)-26-28 and is 26 years old.
Face- 7/10
Body – 7/10
Activity – 8/10 (BBBJ, CG, RCG, Doggy, Mish and DFK)
Note: she tries to rush as well as passively upsells.
See Again: No
Luana:
I was back at the bar and had just ordered a Jack and Coke (10 euros). Two seats away is a somewhat attractive lady with a nice body that is trying to get my attention. I smiled and she leaned into the girl sitting beside me who seemed to be grouchy and whispered something in her ear. The grouch said something back and the 2 looked away from me. I decided to figure out what was going on so I walked over to the "non-grouch" and spoke to her politely. I asked what the conversation was about me and she led me out of the bar so we could hear each other. She said she had asked the other girl to speak to me and the girl had replied "I don’t want to speak to anyone". She’ll go far in this business.
Well I noticed how hotter this lad was standing and I asked her where she was from. She replied Kratzy. I finally deduced it was Croatia after searching my geography memory banks for "Kratzy".
This one was a wildcat as well. She stood 5 foot 8, 35B-20-24, brown eyes and light brown long hair. She gave me the best BBBJ of the night, she said I could CIM and she would not charge me the extra since I was so nice to her. I said lets see what happens, covered up and proceed to MISH with her legs wrapped around me. This led to her legs against my chest and me deep thrusting her with her asking me not to come yet as she wanted to. I added rotation to my deep thrust and she came hard as her vaginal muscles squeezed so tight I almost came. We changed to spoon, moved to doggy and the she proved she was a spinner. DFK was great, CG, RCG, MISH and several other unlabeled position were engaged. She was a keeper.
Face- 8/10
Body – 8/10
Activity – 10/10 (BBBJ, CG, RCG, Doggy, Mish and DFK)
See Again: Yes
Daria:
Time was late and I could not believe how much fun I was having. So I decided to be responsible and look for one more date then go to my hotel. I had been eyeing this raven haired beauty all night but avoided her due to her sitting with a large contingent from Poland. I noticed that they were each buying champagne and getting quite drunk. Hmmm, drunk chick form Poland, this could end up only 1 of 2 ways, either exceptionally bad or mind blowingly great.
So I figured I had nothing to lose since I had hit the jackpot several times tonight. I approached her and she was more than willing. She had another glass of champagne and off we went. We got to the room and she said, I need to go to the toilet and off she went. I thought, this is going bad as this was not a good sign. She returned in about 5 minutes and then pounced me. She begain sucking my tongue and all other appendages she managed to get to. Incredible BBBJ with lots of spit and she also provided to my surprise Asian. She as horny as hell and was putting me through her own personal boot camp of sex. I gloved up and she rode me like a champ. We hit all positions and finished in a modified RCG where she is on top her back against my chest and her legs between mine and my rod buried deep into that tight Polish vagina. We ended up coming together.
Face- 9/10 (very attractive but had bad teeth in shape only but not detracting)
Body – 8/10
Activity – 9/10 (BBBJ, CG, RCG, Doggy, Mish and DFK+)
See Again: Yes
I left at 2 am and realized I had been there 8 hours. Wow, I have 4 more days here and I will be back at least 3 more times. I was like an infant in a candy store when there. The damage 70e+60ex7ladies = 490euro or like this forum does the relative math $70 euros per lady. Not bad.
Again, my heartfelt thanks to all that contributed to my knowledge base making my first night at Artemis memorable.
BH
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La Folie
Guys,
When planning your trips to Berlin don't overlook La Folie. I visited it and Artemis on my most recent trip (18 months ago). They're very different, but both are excellent. True, Artemis is much bigger, and there's plenty to do between "pops". But La Folie has an old-fashioned decadent Berlin charm which I found very appealing. It's a true FKK club in that the guys also are generally expected to go nude. Indeed, when you return to the bar after undressing and showering, you are expected to bin the (full-sized) towel you used in the shower and are given instead a tiny towel, about 40 cm square, to sit on. So maybe not the place for bashful guys, but great for show-offs like me.
Facilities are limited. No pool or kino, iirc. And no outdoor area (I was there in December). There are private rooms but some action takes place in the bar itself, which is well-furnished with sofas, big floor cushions etc. I had a wonderful exhibitionist time there with a very horny woman called Yvonne, who was delighted when I said that I'd prefer to have fun right there in the bar.
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[QUOTE=Londonbasketcase]So here goes:
Day 1 Arrive morning. Sightseeing in day, Artemis in evening to late (I want to save my testicles pregant with a week's worth of unused spermies for the FKK first day)
Day 2 Brothel hopping all day with sightseeing interspersed KD, K and VD then Artemis until late.
Day 3 sightseeing in day and then Artemis at night catching up with a preplanned meet with a forum member
Day 4 sightseeing in day - maybe a brothel visit or two then flight home.
Regards
Londonbasketcase[/QUOTE]Even though your stay in Berlin will be longer than mine, it's not that much longer. If you stay at Artemis all night say from late afternoon or early evening to catch their dinner and stay through to say 3, 4 or 5 am closing, your sightseeing the next day is really going to be cut in half since you will likely be sleeping all morning long.
From the maps, it appears that KD, VK and Mona are all west end where Artemis is while most of the sights are sort of central downtown and even towards the east. To mix between sightseeing and brothels might be a travel issue. There is however, another brothel that's been reported called Tiffany that is more east.
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[QUOTE=Bronze Hornet]I left at 2 am and realized I had been there 8 hours. Wow, I have 4 more days here and I will be back at least 3 more times. I was like an infant in a candy store when there. The damage 70e+60ex7ladies = 490euro or like this forum does the relative math $70 euros per lady. Not bad.
BH[/QUOTE]You had seven, all in one single visit? I'll be happy if I could pull through two or three in one visit. If I may ask, were you using some 'enhancers' (Viagra or Cialis) to help you get through all them ladies?
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[QUOTE=Exoticspirit]You had seven, all in one single visit? I'll be happy if I could pull through two or three in one visit. If I may ask, were you using some 'enhancers' (Viagra or Cialis) to help you get through all them ladies?[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, I left my enhacers back in the states.
I believe it was Roosevelt that responded when Eleanor and he were at a chicken farm and she said to him "see honey he can do it several times a night" and he replied "yep, and if I had as many women as he has hens I'd do all of them also". After a week hiatus since I last got laid (preparing for the actual business part of this trip) the laws of diminishing returns were not in play. I was like a kid locked in the candy store on Tuesday night.
I went back on Wednesday night and had only very little sleep as my body is still on East Coast USA time I was spent and exhausted and hooked up only twice before I realized I'm not superman and needed my magic pill.
BH
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Artemis
well after a month in country it's time to go home and face the bills. all in all it was great! artemis is a great place to go and believe me i would not part take in the street scene. i did a walkabout around kruestenstrasse and it's way better to go to an fkk than getting a quickie in the peep show booth. the food in artemis is pretty good and my last visit i had the chicken, as i went to get seconds i bumped into the bronze hornet! cool guy! we sat and exchanged info and about the board (he had chicken too) after eating it was back to the ring. if your in berlin this is the place to go. all the info you need is in this forum. bh nice meeting you dude!
be safe!
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@Exoticspirit
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit] Even though your stay in Berlin will be longer than mine, it's not that much longer. If you stay at Artemis all night say from late afternoon or early evening to catch their dinner and stay through to say 3, 4 or 5 am closing, your sightseeing the next day is really going to be cut in half since you will likely be sleeping all morning long. [/QUOTE]
Exoticspirit, thank you for your concern. I understand. I suppose when it comes down to it I will regulate my time, but from experience of the NRW and Hesse clubs I do get into the swing of things and just don't want to leave and end up closing the club. In NRW the clubs I go to tend to close at 1am so there is a self imposed curfew, whereas for the Hesse clubs that have 4am and 5am closing I don't have anyone to tell me to get a move on when it hits midnight.
Yes, If I do want to see Berlin and I do then I need to be more careful with my intake of hot East Euro girls and Germanics so that I am not shattered for the next day's travels.
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit]From the maps, it appears that KD, VK and Mona are all west end where Artemis is while most of the sights are sort of central downtown and even towards the east. To mix between sightseeing and brothels might be a travel issue. There is however, another brothel that's been reported called Tiffany that is more east. [/QUOTE]
Thanks for pointing this logistial observation out that the brothels and Artemis are to the West and the sights are to the centre and East. I do hope and expect that the Berlin transport system is efficient and on time as I ahve experienced it elsewhere in Deutschland.
Cheers,
Londonbasketcase
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La Folie
[QUOTE=Tom Ninesixty]When planning your trips to Berlin don't overlook La Folie. [/QUOTE]
Yes, thanks for the reminder of La Folie. I did have that down in my original plans but then I saw a few reports that had mixed or uninspired write ups about La Folie. It may have been the lack of facilities then again it could have been the women standards. I guess from your report that you had a great time fucking Yvonne in the main bar room for an audience.
I see that sort of stuff happen in the London underground private parties (not gangbang parties) where a few invited guests and girls get together in private houses or hired night clubs for pay for play over a course of an evening. Much smaller scale but yes a part of the entertainment is the girls sucking and fucking a few of the guys as a part of the show. There is an entry fee and tips from the guys to the girl to put on the show. Tips range from £1 to £5 a person.
I have never had the courage to take the invitation from the girls to be perform in the live sex show for the entertainment of others.
Regards
Londonbasketcase
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Which club would this be?
[quote=Bronze Hornet]We talked some and she is of Lebanese/Italian descent and is visiting from a Frankfort FKK owned by the folks that own Artemis.[/quote]
The owner of Artemis also owns F39 in Bochum.
Bochum is quite far from "Frankfort".
Or was she referring to the Aldi in Dietzenbach? Does he own that club too?
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[QUOTE=Jackyo]The owner of Artemis also owns F39 in Bochum.
Bochum is quite far from "Frankfort".
Or was she referring to the Aldi in Dietzenbach? Does he own that club too?[/QUOTE]I made an assumption based on her comment that she normally worked at the Frankfort club and was visiting this club (Artemis). I assumed it was a franchise with no personal knowledge base to back it up. Your connection is definitely better than my source. BH
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[quote=sabor]well after a month in country it's time to go home and face the bills. all in all it was great! artemis is a great place to go and believe me i would not part take in the street scene. i did a walkabout around kruestenstrasse and it's way better to go to an fkk than getting a quickie in the peep show booth. the food in artemis is pretty good and my last visit i had the chicken, as i went to get seconds i bumped into the bronze hornet! cool guy! we sat and exchanged info and about the board (he had chicken too) after eating it was back to the ring. if your in berlin this is the place to go. all the info you need is in this forum. bh nice meeting you dude!
be safe![/quote]sabor, many appreciations for the wealth of insight you provided. i sent you a pm to follow up on that florida contact.
bh
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Information about artemis
Hi to you all guys!
All my greetings for the forum! It is really great!
My dears I'd like to have much more informations about artemis and fkk in general considering I'm never been in those places but soon I'll be in berlin and I'd like to have this new experience; here are some questions for you:
1)a man have always to be naked in a fkk, in tha welness area, at the bar, at the restaurant, at the cinema we have to be naked?
2)Are there any gays in those places? I hate gays and omosexual they forbid my erection. If it is so I have to renounce to visit the artemis and fkk! Please explain me how does it works.
3)I'm looking for a place where I can relax myself without confusion, where the girls don't bore you with continuos request of drink or such as. So is artemis good for me?
Thanks a lot to you all and exuse me for my bad english!
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[QUOTE=The Domine]Hi to you all guys!
All my greetings for the forum! It is really great!
My dears I'd like to have much more informations about artemis and fkk in general considering I'm never been in those places but soon I'll be in berlin and I'd like to have this new experience; here are some questions for you:
1)a man have always to be naked in a fkk, in tha welness area, at the bar, at the restaurant, at the cinema we have to be naked?
2)Are there any gays in those places? I hate gays and omosexual they forbid my erection. If it is so I have to renounce to visit the artemis and fkk! Please explain me how does it works.
3)I'm looking for a place where I can relax myself without confusion, where the girls don't bore you with continuos request of drink or such as. So is artemis good for me?
Thanks a lot to you all and exuse me for my bad english![/QUOTE]Domine,
I am primarily active on the USA board and if this post were there you would be the prolific recipient of the infamous "RTFF" from several fellow mongers and rightly so as this information is profusely plastered throughout this section of this forum.
However, I have just recently visited Artemis for my first European foray and will help out a bit.
1) a man have always to be naked in a fkk, in tha welness area, at the bar, at the restaurant, at the cinema we have to be naked?
BH's reply: You have the option of a robe or a towel. Most wear a towel.
2) Are there any gays in those places? I hate gays and omosexual they forbid my erection. If it is so I have to renounce to visit the artemis and fkk! Please explain me how does it works.
BH's reply: This query is probably why no one else has answered you. The primary interest in paying the 70€ fee is to see, meet and imbide in women. More than likely, homosexuals on the hunt for new meet will not find this a rich target area. Also, in my opinion, If you go there worrying about gays, maybe you should stay at your hotel and order outcall. I say this from a logical standpoint as it is the only guaranteed way for you to control your environment. But, there is no guarantee that she would not be gay unless you used a generic term to cover "homosexuals" only. My advice, go to Artemis and focus on the incredible lovelies there and put your prejudices aside and imbide in what YOU are there for and worry not of others.
3) I'm looking for a place where I can relax myself without confusion, where the girls don't bore you with continuos request of drink or such as. So is artemis good for me?
BH's reply: You will not be solicited to purchase a drink but you will be solicited to have a min 60€ date with one of the ladies. If you like, say yes. Now if you do not want to spend time with the solicitor, POLITELY turn her down. If you are rude, the word will get around and you will be the solicitor to no avail or defiitely to lessor quality.
BH's comment: Now, set aside 1 to 2 hours and review this forum. I did and I hit the road running on my first day at Artemis.
Also as a matter of courtesy, if you do go, post your experience here for those in the future to use to prepare for their visit.
Have fun and remember to contribute.
BH
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[QUOTE=Bronze Hornet]Domine,
I am primarily active on the USA board and if this post were there you would be the prolific recipient of the infamous "RTFF" from several fellow mongers and rightly so as this information is profusely plastered throughout this section of this forum.
However, I have just recently visited Artemis for my first European foray and will help out a bit.
1) a man have always to be naked in a fkk, in tha welness area, at the bar, at the restaurant, at the cinema we have to be naked?
BH's reply: You have the option of a robe or a towel. Most wear a towel.
2) Are there any gays in those places? I hate gays and omosexual they forbid my erection. If it is so I have to renounce to visit the artemis and fkk! Please explain me how does it works.
BH's reply: This query is probably why no one else has answered you. The primary interest in paying the 70€ fee is to see, meet and imbide in women. More than likely, homosexuals on the hunt for new meet will not find this a rich target area. Also, in my opinion, If you go there worrying about gays, maybe you should stay at your hotel and order outcall. I say this from a logical standpoint as it is the only guaranteed way for you to control your environment. But, there is no guarantee that she would not be gay unless you used a generic term to cover "homosexuals" only. My advice, go to Artemis and focus on the incredible lovelies there and put your prejudices aside and imbide in what YOU are there for and worry not of others.
3) I'm looking for a place where I can relax myself without confusion, where the girls don't bore you with continuos request of drink or such as. So is artemis good for me?
BH's reply: You will not be solicited to purchase a drink but you will be solicited to have a min 60€ date with one of the ladies. If you like, say yes. Now if you do not want to spend time with the solicitor, POLITELY turn her down. If you are rude, the word will get around and you will be the solicitor to no avail or defiitely to lessor quality.
BH's comment: Now, set aside 1 to 2 hours and review this forum. I did and I hit the road running on my first day at Artemis.
Also as a matter of courtesy, if you do go, post your experience here for those in the future to use to prepare for their visit.
Have fun and remember to contribute.
BH[/QUOTE]I could not agree more. As a matter of fact Artemis is a club where if you even notice the men then you are not focused on the task at hand, which is of course to enjoy the company of some of the most beautiful women you can find. It's like a nightclub except this time you get to have sex with almost any woman you want and then do it again and again. Wish I had pictures of the 15 women I've had on my two trips. Cannot wait for the third, which I'm trying to line up this summer.
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The Food At Artemis
I noticed that on their website, Artemis has dinner from about 6 pm to 2 am. I assume this is buffet style. Do they keep this food relatively hot throughout the hours? Reason why I ask is that I would like to nibble here and there throughout my stay. If I eat one large meal at dinnertime, I just don't see how I'm going to be in any shape to do more girls after that without barfing all over them.
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Food at Artemis
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit]I noticed that on their website, Artemis has dinner from about 6 pm to 2 am. I assume this is buffet style. Do they keep this food relatively hot throughout the hours? Reason why I ask is that I would like to nibble here and there throughout my stay. If I eat one large meal at dinnertime, I just don't see how I'm going to be in any shape to do more girls after that without barfing all over them.[/QUOTE]There is always hot food in the dining area the entire time between 6PM and around 1:30 am. Also during the summer, on Wednesdays and Sundays, they do a bbq grill instead - better than the usual stuff rest of the week.
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[QUOTE=Exoticspirit]I noticed that on their website, Artemis has dinner from about 6 pm to 2 am. I assume this is buffet style. Do they keep this food relatively hot throughout the hours? Reason why I ask is that I would like to nibble here and there throughout my stay. If I eat one large meal at dinnertime, I just don't see how I'm going to be in any shape to do more girls after that without barfing all over them.[/QUOTE]Hi,
I went to Artemis 2 weeks ago. The food is served at 6pm and is a hot meal. in my opinion the meal is of very good quality. When the main course finishes, they then replace with hot snacks (pizza slices, roast chicken, etc) throughout the whole evening. All the food is kept hot. you won't be dissappointed. Food finishing time is 1pm to 2pm approx. Bon appetite!
I went with a german girl from Hamburg calling herself Jane (even though in German it's Yana). she was good in bed and nice to talk to. perfect model-like slender body and very pretty face. recommend!
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Need info!
Hi Guys,
I will be staying near Kurfürstendamm boulevard in hotel Sofytel Berlin. What are the clubs/brothels/kinos in walking distance from here.
Any info is appreciated.
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[QUOTE=Jayleesf]There is always hot food in the dining area the entire time between 6PM and around 1:30 am. Also during the summer, on Wednesdays and Sundays, they do a bbq grill instead - better than the usual stuff rest of the week.[/QUOTE]
Jaysleef,
Good to know that food is catered for from 18:00 to 01:30. Saves me thinking of ordering in takeways to the club if I get the munchies.
the fact there is a BBQ on Sundays means there is an incentive for me to be at Artemis to enjoy it on Sunday along with pensioners and taxi drivers as they receive discounted entritt on Sundays if I recall correctly.
Thanks for the advice,
Londonbasketcase
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HUGE fake silicone Boobs
Hey hey! Wiild is finally coming to Berlin, I will follow the advice and mostly focus on Artemis for one or two late afternoon/evening sessions.
As I especially like huge titted girls, I am gladly taking advice on when such a girl might work at Artemis, or if anyone knows of a such a girl in any other club/FKK/working as escort or freelancer? Enhanced/Silicone preferred.
In my imagination Germany would be a good place to find this type of girl but my searches has not been so fruitful so far. I guess I might find some enhanced girls at Artemis, but if someone has any good specific lead please let me know.
Big (huge) thanks! :-)
Oscar
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[QUOTE=Wiild]Hey hey! Wiild is finally coming to Berlin, I will follow the advice and mostly focus on Artemis for one or two late afternoon/evening sessions.
As I especially like huge titted girls, I am gladly taking advice on when such a girl might work at Artemis, or if anyone knows of a such a girl in any other club/FKK/working as escort or freelancer? Enhanced/Silicone preferred.
In my imagination Germany would be a good place to find this type of girl but my searches has not been so fruitful so far. I guess I might find some enhanced girls at Artemis, but if someone has any good specific lead please let me know.
Big (huge) thanks! :-)
Oscar[/QUOTE]
Hi Oscar,
I have only visited Artemis once in March but if you are in to silicon then this is the place for you. The Monday that I was at the club there were about 25/30 women and at least 50% if not more had silicon implants so this should be the place for you.
Good luck
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I was there last Monday
[QUOTE=Wiild]Hey hey! Wiild is finally coming to Berlin, I will follow the advice and mostly focus on Artemis for one or two late afternoon/evening sessions.
As I especially like huge titted girls, I am gladly taking advice on when such a girl might work at Artemis, or if anyone knows of a such a girl in any other club/FKK/working as escort or freelancer? Enhanced/Silicone preferred.
In my imagination Germany would be a good place to find this type of girl but my searches has not been so fruitful so far. I guess I might find some enhanced girls at Artemis, but if someone has any good specific lead please let me know.
Big (huge) thanks! :-)
Oscar[/QUOTE]You will not be disappointed, most are enhanced just make sure you scope out the place first and not target anything for at least 30 minutes once you get there. I made the mistake of hitting (fucking) something right off when I got in. I couldn't help it this place is like no other place I have ever been to. Anyway I soon found myself in MAN paradise and regretted the fact that I was on budget for this last trip. There are porn star quality there and MILF brand if you want that. Its just crazy. Since I am American and cursed by the fact that the US is so uptight on sex, these places need to be everywhere in the western world so that war wouldn't even cross anyone's mind. Oh make sure you make a day of it since you pretty much can. Next time I go I will (A) workout first, (B) swim for a while and enjoy the (C) saunas, then I will pick out the best I can find and then start from (A) again till I nail five an have to be carried out. My record so far is four in five hours but it was my first time and I was suckered into CIM routine twice which cost me an extra 100E which would have been number five. Live and Learn. Peace my Bro's. And enjoy every lady as if its you last piece on earth.
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Silicone Oh Yeah! :-)
Thanks Warsteiner, Thanks Chame. I think I will like Artemis! :-)
I prefer my girls totally cleanshaven, with big silicone boobs, and long sexy fingernails, nice makup....porn star type as Chame called it!
looking foward to my trip!
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@LBC and Hotel Advice
LBC have you booked your hotel yet?
I got some tips for hotels for Artemis/Berlin stays. I've taken the trip from Sweden to Berin/Artemis twice in the last 12 months. And I’m going for a third time next weekend.
Since you'll be arriving at Scönefeld Flughafen my advice would be to get a 72h Belin Welcome Card at the newspaper stand for 21 €. Then your all set with transportation to and from the airport, S/U-bahn and bus for the weekend. Then take the Airport Expresstrain from Schönfeld. As an example Schönefeld - Zoologischer Garten takes like 45 min.
My first stay was at Ku'damm 101. It’s a nice hotel located on the “wrong end” (or right if Artemis is your focus) of Kurfurstendamm for shopping. The hotel tries to market itself as a design hotel, but falls a bit short. It's design, but in a minimalistic IKEA sort of way. Nothing wrong with that, but not high end. I stayed there in early dec 2007. At the time (offseason) I got a good deal through Expedia. I'd go there again if I got a good deal. 65 €/night is decent but not a great deal.
During my last stay I booked Scandotel Castor (in February, so again offseason). This was more in the center near KaDeWe. At the time I got a dirtcheap deal through hotelconnect.co.uk: Stay 2 nights pay for 1 for 70 €. Again you won't see does prices during highseason. But it might be worth having a look at hotelconnect.co.uk. They have a promocode for bookings made before 31 July that shaves off £10. Promocode “summer”. They sometimes have a few good special offers IF you stay during certain weekdays. If you are willing to spend a bit more they had Hotel Domicil for your dates (22-25 aug) for 199 € (non refundable with the promocode).
A Good location and I’d be considering that one if you’re willing to spend that amount of money on the hotel.
I'm acctually heading down to Berlin next weekend with some friends and family, but I should be able to sneak off once to Artemis. We'll be staying in the center at the Marriott Potsdamer Platz. It was 3 nights, pay for 2, Air Berlin promo. That comes down to 298 Euro for 3 nights weekend stay, but that offer expires July 31.
In future visits to Artemis/Berlin I'll try mainly to focus on something really close to an S-bahn station that is connected to Westkreuts S-Bahn station.
You'll even have the S-bahn running during Artemis closing time at 5 am. That way you'll have good communications from Artemis until sunrise and also during the day for touristy things.
I was close to booking Hotel Cityblick before but it was booked. It's close to S-Bahn station Charlottenburg. 43 Euro for a singel room seems like a good deal. I hope some of you grab this hotel, so you can tell me if it's a good deal. It might be too basic for you highrollers out there.
[url]http://www.hotel-cityblick.de/ENGLISH/hotel_berlin_guenstig.htm[/url]
To continue on the basic theme. The Hotel Messe am Funkturm you found up seems cheap. The hotels own website seems even cheaper. It might be worth it to get a quote from them directly. [url]http://www.hotel-funkturm-messe.de/preise.html[/url]
Also for all hotels above, do a quick crosscheck with hotels.de in hunt for the best deal and read some reviews from previous guests. Tripadvisor also has good previous guest reviews.
Now that's enough amateur travelagent talk for now. Here's a preview of Artemis.
The link that's been posted here before. Bravotv had a visit at Artemis, and it might give you a little sneak peak.
[url]http://www.bravo.co.uk/sincities/ep08.html[/url]
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[QUOTE=Bronze Hornet]
I believe it was Roosevelt that responded when Eleanor and he were at a chicken farm and she said to him "see honey he can do it several times a night" and he replied "yep, and if I had as many women as he has hens I'd do all of them also".
BH[/QUOTE]Actually, that tale is about Calvin Coolidge. He and his wife were being taken separately through a chicken farm. A guide told Mrs. C. that the prize rooster mated several times a day. She said "Tell that to the president." When the pres, was told, he asked "With the same hen?" The guide said no, to which the president replied "Tell that to Mrs. Coolidge."
It is well known that Roosevelt and his wife were no longer intimate by the time he was president, because of her knowledge of his extramarital relationship with Lucy Mercer.
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Girls of Artemis - pictures
Gentlemen,
Some of ours are preparing for going for the first/second/third...time to Artemis. I must tell you that I'am surprised that the pictures of the ladies there doesn't change for a while. I make you a proposal: let's rate de girls (unfortunatelly only 17 from the 70 as it is write on site [url]http://www.fkk-artemis.de/en/girls.php[/url]) Perhaps the next time whent we get there we'll remember not necesarly the name of the girl, but the picture from the site. That can help.
Thanks
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[QUOTE=Edie72]Gentlemen,
Some of ours are preparing for going for the first/second/third...time to Artemis. I must tell you that I'am surprised that the pictures of the ladies there doesn't change for a while. I make you a proposal: let's rate de girls (unfortunatelly only 17 from the 70 as it is write on site [url]http://www.fkk-artemis.de/en/girls.php[/url]) Perhaps the next time whent we get there we'll remember not necesarly the name of the girl, but the picture from the site. That can help.
Thanks[/QUOTE]I'm about to visit Artemis very soon and the images of the girls on their web site surprise me. Most people who've been to Artemis say that there are so many blondes and Eastern Europan girls there. Why then are there mostly girls of color (black/latin etc) on ther web site? Is there perhaps a high demand for girls of color in Berlin? Personally I prefer white Eastern European girls, blondes or brunettes don't matter, so I hope there'll be plenty of them there when I arrive.
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[QUOTE=Cookiemonster]Now that's enough amateur travelagent talk for now. Here's a preview of Artemis.
The link that's been posted here before. Bravotv had a visit at Artemis, and it might give you a little sneak peak.
[url]http://www.bravo.co.uk/sincities/ep08.html[/url][/QUOTE]The short blonde in the video was there yesterday. Her name is Martina and she's Hungarian(or that what she told me). A decent option.
I visited Artemis twice this week as part of my German tour. Tuesday was something of a disappointment with girl number two being quite bad and ruining my mood. A blonde with quite big boobs and unfortunately little to much weight who I forgot to ask for her name. She wouldn't let me do my thing and wanted to offer other things instead. It would have been easy money for her I suppose but when she was so keen on more she ruined it for me. She definitely recognized me on my return trip on the Friday but avoided me. Lesson learned is to never yield to pressure because she found me in the lower Kino and really tried to get me into a room. She didn't look that bad there but I should have known better than to go with someone I hadn't already checked out.
Friday was much better and I enjoyed that visit thoroughly. I think that since there were more men on that night the girls were more relaxed because there would be more and easier business for them. On Tuesday quite a few were a bit aggressive IMO.
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Hi Kvaser
Don't worry, there will be plenty of blondes and east european girls. I think many of the girls in the club doesn't wan't their picture on the website for obvious reasons.
[QUOTE=Kvaser]I'm about to visit Artemis very soon and the images of the girls on their web site surprise me. Most people who've been to Artemis say that there are so many blondes and Eastern Europan girls there. Why then are there mostly girls of color (black/latin etc) on ther web site? Is there perhaps a high demand for girls of color in Berlin? Personally I prefer white Eastern European girls, blondes or brunettes don't matter, so I hope there'll be plenty of them there when I arrive.[/QUOTE]
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Bravo Tv clip link
Thanks for the link cookiemonster.
I think I must pay Berlin and Artemis a visit.
As I now note has been commented on previoulsy in this forum, the short blonde is Martina, Hungarian. I enjoyed the pleasure of her company a year or two ago in World. Thoroughly recommended.
DT
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[QUOTE=Driver2]Actually, that tale is about Calvin Coolidge. He and his wife were being taken separately through a chicken farm. A guide told Mrs. C. that the prize rooster mated several times a day. She said "Tell that to the president." When the pres, was told, he asked "With the same hen?" The guide said no, to which the president replied "Tell that to Mrs. Coolidge."
It is well known that Roosevelt and his wife were no longer intimate by the time he was president, because of her knowledge of his extramarital relationship with Lucy Mercer.[/QUOTE]I humbly stand corrected and appreciate your clarification and sharing of your historical knowledge.
I was trying to cleverly state (but not doing a historically correct job, though) that the law of diminishing returns is not in effect for me when intimacy is allowed with a bevy of beautiful, sexy and completely naked women in one place at the same time.
BH
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No one warned me!
Thought it could not get better than my trip to Thailand at Easter. But last week it did. I found Artemis!
Had 3 nights in Berlin and first day was struggling to find any action. So in the evening headed onto the S Bahn. Had odd walk from station. Seems like potential muggers alley with guys obviously having money in pockets going down to the club.
Paid my 70 got changed then walked in. My mouth hung open. Kept saying "there's a pussy. She's gorgeous. Wow those tits". Total sensory overload. Went into cinema found a guy getting a BJ went downstairs to look around found the other cinema more action!
Needed a drink. Never got to the bar. 2 Bulgarian girls grabbed me by the balls (literally) started rubbing my dick on the staircase while negotiating. I agreed to having both. One very slim blond Connie I think and her partner darker skin with long curly hair. Checked that it was standard 60 each then upstairs. The session was good I fucked/sucked/was sucked/fingered. The usual menu on both. No real limits except one didn't want fingers inside.
After the session they then wanted champagne "we spend more time with you" but that was never going to happen when there was sooo much choice elsewhere.
Had a rest and a drink. Had a swim and sat observing in main lounge. Watching the behaviour. The girls who just sat and the girls who wandered looking for "victims" and the ones who hung around the stairs/door area. I estimated 40 girls of which over 75% were really fit and for me in the 8/9 level (some werent. There was one very red haired lady much older who kept asking and asking)
Sat in cinema and had numerous requests before a Russian girl (crap with names keep forgetting) sat down and within seconds I was ready for action. She kissed straight away and sucked on me while I fingered her and then she said she wanted me to lick her that was it! Off to the room for a great session- especially the 69. Really enjoyable time. Wish I could remember her name.
Had to go. Running out of money with unknown cab fare to pay (it was 20 back to Radisson) and energy levels falling. What a night. Why can't we have one in London?
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Artemis 2nd visit
Had to go back - Saturday night - lot more men - same (possibly fewer difficult to tell with more activity) number of girls.
Didnt want to peak too early - wanted to take things slow - was eventually approached by a Moldovan brunette who promised the earth all for 100 - what I got was very little - even the fingering was with a condom on! never had that before - she got upset that I didnt want to cum with her but wanted to save something - learnt from her that extras are not worth it when you can have so much for 60 anyway
Was found in the cinema by a German girl bit older perhaps but with interesting piercings in various intimate places and a few tatoos- upstairs again and good time and first finish of the evening
So after dark larger females time for slim blond and found another German girl standing by the door quite soon after I went back down - very slim small boobs - bit clinical in the room though she did allow/encourage full acess to her rather wet pussy which was a bonus.
Time for rest - so swim then food which was better than expected - finally caught again in the downstairs cinema by pretty Ukranian girl - she was very keen to make sure that I got what I wanted so kissing and licking were on the menu and the milked another cum out of me in a very senuous - probably best girl of the night.
Thought I had one more left in me (thank heavens for the Kamagra I bought in Thailand!) Found another small blond type (might have been Bulgarian - lost all sense of names places by bthat stage) standing near the door - by now the problem was space - big queue for upstairs and no rooms downstairs so we ended up on one of the round beds in the bar area with the curtains pulled round - didnt mind the noise etc but it does get very hot inside the tent - still good BJ and very tight pussy - good finish.
So that was Artemis - left after nearly 5 hours several hundred euros poorer but with an almighty grin and and a very well used dick - great place you have to go there if you have any interest in mongering!
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Artemis: OK but Boring
Here are my first non organized observations: In short: Artemis is OK for Europe, but not worldclass, as it is too boring and business like.
To find the place: Easy: previous reports are accurate, as is google maps:
Take S-bahn from any big station like, Hauptbanhof, Zoo, or Fredrichstrasse to Westkreuz station.
Artemis is a big hotel type building with a big sign on top, you will not miss it.
I arrrived at 18.00 Monday afternoon: Plenty of nice Mercedes' and BMW's in the parking lot, mostly local business people cheating on their wifes I guess? :-)
Everything very well organized and clean as you would expect, maybe a little bit too organized and clean for my liking, after all people are here to have fun!?!
Food, softdrinks, coffe is included in euro70 entrance fee. If you want beer you need to buy euro10 tokens in the entrance. If the beer was cheaper/easier to buy and tasted better then I think Artemis would be a more fun place!
Food is OK if you really are hungry and didn't have time to eat before but it is not tasty and you have to sit in a boring room eating by yourself. For a tourist I recommend that you go out eating before hitting Artemis: drink some GOOD local beer and eat some GOOD food in a nice place beforehand.
Most of the girls are sitting in the smoking room (like at most bordellos around the world, smoking seems to be one of the biggest hobbies for the girls) which is the upper bar and the only bar that serves alcohol.
The action on this Monday night was slightly slow, girls approached now and then, but they were more business-like when I compare to comparable places in Thailand, Brazil, Colombia, Panama, Spain etc
When you didn't want to agree to sex right away they simply walked away. On the night I was there I was approached by Russian, Ukrainian, Polish, Bulgarian, Spanish and German girls: more than half of the girls are eastern european.
Many wanted to offer to have sex with two girls at the same time. this to me is a clear sign of business mindness from girls.
Appearance of girls: General quality of girls looks were good, maybe an average 7, the Russians/Ukranians looked best, some platinum blond ones with big boobs and shaved pussies, I didn't go with any of them as they were very business-minded, you might even say unfriendly if you are not used to eastern european/russian bordello girls.
Shaved: Less than I thought were totally shaved: I had hoped that 60-90% would have completely shaved pussies, but I guess it was more like 40%.
Silicone: Less than I thought: maybe 25% were visably enhanced by silicone, only 2-3 girls had big fake DD boobs or larger.
Nudeness: Not all girls were nude all the times: they were semi-nude, sometimes showing a lot sometimes covered up in panties or bra etc. But theyr were sexy dressed which was nice.
I'll report more on my personal encounters later, but my verdict in short: Artemis is OK. A great bordello experience if you just want to have sex with a sexy profesional girl in a clean and safe environment.
But it is too boring to be compared to all the great places in Thailand, Brazil, Colombia etc where you can have lot of fun and party with fun girls.
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Thanks for the report Wiild,
[QUOTE=Wiild]Nudeness: Not all girls were nude all the times: they were semi-nude, sometimes showing a lot sometimes covered up in panties or bra etc. But theyr were sexy dressed which was nice.[/QUOTE]This is also one of the things I personally don't like about Artemis. Level of nudity is way to low to be called FKK.
Sorry to hear you didn't find enough completely shaved girls with enhanced DD+ breasts. :)
Don't know which club to recommend if Artemis failed on this requirement, maybe Oase but don't expect too many girls with silicone.
Regarding the expensive alcohol I think the NRW clubs, like Goldentime or PHG, would suit you better. Free beer is included in the entrance here.
Not so expensive alcohol can be found at FKK World if you still want the true FKK experience. But don't expect many girls with silicone implants at World.
Also keep in mind that normally Monday is the slowest day of the week and not the best day to do clubs. There is a reason they admit Taxi drivers for 35€ this day. :)
Maybe FKK clubs is just not your cup of tea but I suggest you evaluate the concept a few more times. Good luck!
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[QUOTE=Wiild]
Appearance of girls: General quality of girls looks were good, maybe an average 7, the Russians/Ukranians looked best, some platinum blond ones with big boobs and shaved pussies, I didn't go with any of them as they were very business-minded, you might even say unfriendly if you are not used to eastern european/russian bordello girls.
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Well, there are indeed at Artemis several girls that ask to you to go to the room beetween 5 to 40 seconds after they approach you o you approach them and I never go to the room with any of them. This is more frequent if you are from another country (like me) since they think you are 99% a one time customer.
But there are nicer girls and they become nicer if you are somewhat a regular customer and then they don’t look at the watch that much (like you do 80 minutes and you pay 60+60 eur).
I remember once I was particularly horny, I saw one of my favourite girls there and I wanted to go right away to the room but she started talking a lot about some of her stuff and I basically was trying not to stare too much at her boobs and I just wanted to say “Stop with the chat, I want to have sex!” but since I’m a gentleman (lol) I waited about half an hour for an opening and then I said “can we go upstairs?”
I think above all on a Monday, where there are less customers and they can’t just go getting cash from one to another, maybe the girls should focuse more in entertaining the man and level down the business like mode.
Down with fake tits! :-)
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I went to Berlin last week an spent one evening in A. Not the first, I came already twice, but I think this will have been my last one. I read a lot of enthusiastic reports, but.. When I arrived I got the feeling to enter a clinic. Everything is very clean, and very cold. And when you go to the bar you definitly understand: This is a great machine, pure capitalism, free enterprise, what ever you want. But not fun. Time is money, so the workers here don't waste 5 or 40 seconds before they ask you to go upstairs but 2 or 3. At most. Sex is a part of industrial production, organized by Henry Ford. And when you say No, because you just arrived, you want to have look first or something as strange as a drink, don't be surprised when the lady, usually a silicon armed imitation of a retired porn queen from Poland, shows her anger. She is not her to make love but to make money. So she doenst want to waste her time in silly conversations, OK? And english, german or french are so difficult languages. On the other hand I wondered how much time the girls spent smoking and chatting and above all avoiding to contact some possible client.
The first time I met a girl from CR. Beautyful eyes, small breasts, completely shaven. I was so excited that I came before I started. I filled her mouth and than, a little ashamed, I filled her pocket. The second time: "don't touch my hair, don't touch my breasts, no BJ because of my tooth-ake. " and so on. The third time: average sex with an average girl from. Don't remember. Russia? The first time a lot of 7s, some 8s, two or three 9s. The last time: A lot of 5s, some 6s, a few 7s. Are there any girls left in eastern Europe?
Bye, Artemis. Berlin is a big city with better places. I hope.
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La Folie or Artemas
Hi All,
Going to Berlin for two nights at the end of August and am thinking about spending a night at La Folie but not have read much about it.
Is it still as good as it was a few years back?
Thanks for any advice
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[QUOTE=Visual]Hi All,
Going to Berlin for two nights at the end of August and am thinking about spending a night at La Folie but not have read much about it.
Is it still as good as it was a few years back?
Thanks for any advice[/QUOTE]How many years ago did you visit La Folie?
After the opening of Artemis a few years ago La Folie is not up to much I'm afraid. If you are looking for a large club with a large selection of girls, go to Artemis.
If you are looking for a small club with a small selection of girls, go to La Folie.
Good luck!
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[QUOTE=Zimmer]How many years ago did you visit La Folie?
After the opening of Artemis a few years ago La Folie is not up to much I'm afraid. If you are looking for a large club with a large selection of girls, go to Artemis.
If you are looking for a small club with a small selection of girls, go to La Folie.
Good luck![/QUOTE]
The Last time I was there was about 4 years ago. I believe it was just around the time Artemas opened. I had a great time at both.
I enjoyed Artemis but it is like comparing Bernds to Oase, The experience is different.
Thanks
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[QUOTE=Visual]Hi All,
Going to Berlin for two nights at the end of August and am thinking about spending a night at La Folie but not have read much about it.
Is it still as good as it was a few years back?
Thanks for any advice[/QUOTE]
I have not been to Artimis so I can not really compare but I was quite disappointed with La Folie the last two times I went, sometime last autumn. Both visits I end up leaving without taking a girl to the back rooms.
The selection was pretty dismal and I found the girls were either beautiful (8-9) but distant or reasonable (6-7) and all over me to buy them a picolo as soon as I sat down. Now I understand that they are working and this is part of how it works, but I like to sit and maybe talk a while before being hit up for a bottle.
When I was there 4-5 years ago there were a huge variety of ladies and I managed to find some very sweet part timers who I did not mind spending a bit of cash on and I was hugely rewarded ib the back room.
Personally, I would give La Folie a miss.
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Artemis and other opps
I'm going to Berlin in mid August for three nights mid week. I'm going to divide it up evenly among Artemis (for my last night which will be a Thursday) and spend the first two days/evenings and try out two smaller places. One will be Kamilla Dee and the other is an even smaller place called Mona. There's only one report I saw on the Berlin thread on Mona and it was not bad. If anybody else been there, I would like to know since the price is probably right and very close to my hotel. The ladies on their website as shown in the Berlin thread don't look too bad either.
If both Mona and Kamilla Dee are only so-so, then at least I keep the last evening for the biggest venue which is Artemis.- unless you guys feel that for some reason, I should be allocating all my nights at Artemis.
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August travels
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit]If both Mona and Kamilla Dee are only so-so, then at least I keep the last evening for the biggest venue which is Artemis.- unless you guys feel that for some reason, I should be allocating all my nights at Artemis.[/QUOTE]
Hi Exoticspirt,
If FKK Artemis is anything like what I have experienced in NRW sauna clubs and Hessen FKKs then you may feel short changed having spent all your earlier fresh loads in Mona and Kamilla Dee (both darlings I imagine).
The reports below suggest lower number of choice in some of the brothels which is expected. I have looked at the Kamilla Dee, La Folie, Mona websites and like what I see there but the ability to wander a FKK's facilities while making one's choice is something I like as the pressure is not there to pick straight away when there are no communal facilities to enjoy.
There are many a time when you come to a London brothel with say 12 girls in the room sitting looking at you waiting for you to make a choice. It can be one of the most scariest things in the world plucking up courage and going up to a girl and saying I pick you in front of them all.
I know that FKK Artemis may cost more so to take advantage you need to do more sessions to bring the fixed cost down so treat it as a day out.
I am in Berlin also in the latter part of August for 4 days. I know we miss each other so have a great time. You never know I may also pop my head into Kamilla Dee and La Folie to see what the score is in August.
My main concern is that in Hessen at least many girls are on holidays - with fewer messes on there is no incentive to be working in the Summer months. Europe is on holidays. I mean we are on holiday too.
Kind regards
Londonbasketcase
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[QUOTE=Cookiemonster]LBC have you booked your hotel yet?
I got some tips for hotels for Artemis/Berlin stays. I've taken the trip from Sweden to Berin/Artemis twice in the last 12 months. And I’m going for a third time next weekend.
Since you'll be arriving at Scönefeld Flughafen my advice would be to get a 72h Belin Welcome Card at the newspaper stand for 21 €. Then your all set with transportation to and from the airport, S/U-bahn and bus for the weekend. Then take the Airport Expresstrain from Schönfeld. As an example Schönefeld - Zoologischer Garten takes like 45 min.
In future visits to Artemis/Berlin I'll try mainly to focus on something really close to an S-bahn station that is connected to Westkreuts S-Bahn station.
You'll even have the S-bahn running during Artemis closing time at 5 am. That way you'll have good communications from Artemis until sunrise and also during the day for touristy things.
Bravotv had a visit at Artemis, and it might give you a little sneak peak.
[url]http://www.bravo.co.uk/sincities/ep08.html[/url][/QUOTE]
Cookiemonster,
I thank you sincerely for your well written and thoughtful advice. I appreciate the effort taken in writing up your personal experiences. The tips you have given me and others that have read your post will provide assistance to the many that will come after us.
I can be a budget traveller if I need be so I am going to stay near Friedrichstrasse Bahnof which is one station East of the Hauptbanof. This allows me to be on the S9 or S75 that passes through Westkreuz bahnof for FKK Artemis.
Staying here also allows me to do my sightseeing as the purpose of this trip is actually to visit Berlin too as I have never been before. In saying that my trips to Frankfurt have been about FKK visits only and I have yet to actually wander the Main river or see the shops (well I have visited the porn shops in the Red light District as they were open well late at night).
Also with the Berlin welcome card at €21 seems reasonable for 72 hours especially if it covers the airport and all public transport options. I am visiting for 4 days from a Friday to a Monday so I expect my last day I need to buy an extra day's travel to get back to the schonefeld Flughafen.
Your tip that the S Bahns run pretty much 24 hours on a Friday and Saturday is a great help meaning my plan to actually stay in a hotel close to Westkreuz need not be the case. Provided I saty close to a S Bahn stop I can pretty much get to Artemis and back to my hotel provided I do not leave at theh ungodly hours of 01:00 when the s bahns probably stop for the night to say 04:00/05:00 when the first s bahns start running again in the morning.
The Bravo TV clip makes Artemis look like a pristine mansion inside. I am looking forward to visiting and seeing all the naked girls there and spending some quality time with them.
Kind regards
Londonbasketcase
Regards
Londonbasketcase
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[QUOTE=Londonbasketcase]My main concern is that in Hessen at least many girls are on holidays - with fewer messes on there is no incentive to be working in the Summer months. Europe is on holidays. I mean we are on holiday too.
Kind regards
Londonbasketcase[/QUOTE]Hi LBC.
I visited Artemis last week on two occasions, Thursday + Saturday, and there was about 30 girls there each night, perhaps a few more on Saturday night. It felt quite sufficient for me I think. There are probably more girls there in the fall and spring during all the fairs, but I never felt that there was a shortage of available girls, most of whom were quite attractive (mostly 8s with a few 6s-7s and a few 9s).
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Thank you Kvaser for the recent feedback
Thank you Kvaser for the recent feedback on Artemis. These reports are the life blood of the constant punter.
[QUOTE=Kvaser] Hi LBC
I visited Artemis last week on two occasions, Thursday + Saturday,[/QUOTE]
Good work Kvaser. I expect to be in Berlin for a Frietag, Sammtag, Sonnstag and Montag. I should be sightseeing as soon as I get into town but I bet I end up on the doorstep of Artemis at midday like the naughty lad that I am.
I get in fairly early into Berlin Schonefeld and taking the X7 or X171 u bahn into town I think to my hostel in Friedrichstrasse S Bahn area.
[QUOTE=Kvaser] and there was about 30 girls there each night, perhaps a few more on Saturday night.[/QUOTE]
Hey 30 girls is a nice number. I was actually hoping it is more given that I heard that Artemis is a big club in size and also being in Berlin city itself. But as there are only 30 rooms having 30 girls on makes sense since each girl is not fighting for a room to entertain their clients like at Golden Time or Oase where you have girls queuing for a room as there are not enough rooms to go around the 70-80 girls working when the day and night shifts overlap.
[QUOTE=Kvaser] It felt quite sufficient for me I think.[/QUOTE]
Yes, you are right. One only needs several good girls to make a visit extremely memorable that one yearns to return to Deutschland.
[QUOTE=Kvaser] There are probably more girls there in the fall and spring during all the fairs, but I never felt that there was a shortage of available girls, most of whom were quite attractive (mostly 8s with a few 6s-7s and a few 9s). [/QUOTE]
Kvaser, thank you for your positive report. If they girl quotient is averaging 8 then I will be hard pushed to limit myself to 4 sessions a day. We shall see if the girl line up in August rocks my boat and hopefully the Summer holidays have not decimated the sex provider ranks.
Kind regards
Londonbasketcase
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Count seems low
[QUOTE=Kvaser]Hi LBC.
I visited Artemis last week on two occasions, Thursday + Saturday, and there was about 30 girls there each night, perhaps a few more on Saturday night. It felt quite sufficient for me I think. There are probably more girls there in the fall and spring during all the fairs, but I never felt that there was a shortage of available girls, most of whom were quite attractive (mostly 8s with a few 6s-7s and a few 9s).[/QUOTE]I was at Artemis on Saturday as well and I think 30 seems low. I believe the count is probably closer to 50. But I do agree that the holiday season seems to have lowered the number of girls a bit but quality has not suffered.
In the past 3 months, there has been a large turnover of girls at Artemis, fortunately my top 3 are still working. Every time I go, (once every two weeks) there are a handful of new girls. I had a session with an absolutely beautiful Romanian (maybe 165cm, enhanced C cup, long dark straight hair). Session was good (light kissing, good BBBJ, DATY with FIV, and CFS). I would rate her service a 6 or 7, but worth it just based on her stunning looks. Face 9 or 10, body 9 (10 if breasts were real). Name is Demi and she told me she was working in Switzerland at the Globe. When I checked the Zurich forum, it seems as if the police raided the club and kicked out all the girls w/o any work permits. Based on Demi, I hope more of those girls make their way to Artemis.
One thing I wanted to pass on that I found interesting. I spoked to one of my ATF and she told me that the management holds meetings with the girls to lecture them about providing good service to the customers. One thing the manager stressed is the need for the girls to be up front with the customers about time spent in the room. When a session is about to approach 30 minutes, the girl is supposed to ask the customer if they would like to extend of end at 30 min. I noticed all the new girls I have taken into the room have been very up front about the time both before the session started and near the end of each 30 min. Gotta applaud the management for that.
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[QUOTE=Londonbasketcase]Hi Exoticspirt,
The reports below suggest lower number of choice in some of the brothels which is expected. I have looked at the Kamilla Dee, La Folie, Mona websites and like what I see there but the ability to wander a FKK's facilities while making one's choice is something I like as the pressure is not there to pick straight away when there are no communal facilities to enjoy.
There are many a time when you come to a London brothel with say 12 girls in the room sitting looking at you waiting for you to make a choice. It can be one of the most scariest things in the world plucking up courage and going up to a girl and saying I pick you in front of them all.
Kind regards
Londonbasketcase[/QUOTE]Hi there again,
As you said, the girls on the Mona and KD websites look doable to me too and will be good enough for an outing. I don't need to choose from among 50 or 60 girls. It might even confuse me.
I think a nice mix of Artemis and other places will be a good overall experience of Berlin.
As for choosing from a group looking at you, already done that in Thailand and Costa Rica so it's nothing new.
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[QUOTE=Jayleesf]I was at Artemis on Saturday as well and I think 30 seems low. I believe the count is probably closer to 50. But I do agree that the holiday season seems to have lowered the number of girls a bit but quality has not suffered.
In the past 3 months, there has been a large turnover of girls at Artemis, fortunately my top 3 are still working. Every time I go, (once every two weeks) there are a handful of new girls. I had a session with an absolutely beautiful Romanian (maybe 165cm, enhanced C cup, long dark straight hair). Session was good (light kissing, good BBBJ, DATY with FIV, and CFS). I would rate her service a 6 or 7, but worth it just based on her stunning looks. Face 9 or 10, body 9 (10 if breasts were real). Name is Demi and she told me she was working in Switzerland at the Globe. When I checked the Zurich forum, it seems as if the police raided the club and kicked out all the girls w/o any work permits. Based on Demi, I hope more of those girls make their way to Artemis.
One thing I wanted to pass on that I found interesting. I spoked to one of my ATF and she told me that the management holds meetings with the girls to lecture them about providing good service to the customers. One thing the manager stressed is the need for the girls to be up front with the customers about time spent in the room. When a session is about to approach 30 minutes, the girl is supposed to ask the customer if they would like to extend of end at 30 min. I noticed all the new girls I have taken into the room have been very up front about the time both before the session started and near the end of each 30 min. Gotta applaud the management for that.
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Did I see you there? I'm a Swede in my mid 30s (although all girls said I look younger), 179 cm (5'11''), fairly slim, short black hair, somewhat hairy chest. Maybe there was 50 girls there if you stayed late? I never stayed later than 10: 45 PM. My favourites were a fairly tall German brunette called Svenya and a Moldovan blond with curly hair whose name I don't remember, she was wonderful. All these platinum blonde Poles were really beautiful, but not much fun in the sack. A really short blond girl named Dominika was a disappointment. Totally passive. I like girls with fire, passion, and committment, but if you're into calm girls I guess she'd appeal to you.
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About La Folie
Hello,
I'm a new user and I would like to gather some report about La Folie.
Sorry for posting in the Artemis area, I wasn't able to open a new thread fr La Folie, maybe administrator could do it.
I already got all the information one could read in the La Folie website (fees and rates...) and it tease me.
I just would like to undestand if it can be good for me.
I know many of you go to the Artemis FKK, but I don't feel attraction to big places and all the facilities included. I just enjoy a small place where I can relax a while, have an encounter with a girl and then leave.
Besides, I don't like paying 70 euro just to get in, I rather give that money to girl, if know what I mean.
So, looking at the website La Folie it all sounds good: cheap fees to get in, alchoolic drink allowed at reasonable price and girl at affordable rates... so what else is missing?
Please note that I am not looking for top-models or porn-stars-like girls, just an average good looking female in an easy-going environment. Important to me that they are nice, don't rush me and don't push me for extras.
Thank you.
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La Folie should be fine for you then
[QUOTE=Sexual Healing]Hello,
I'm a new user and I would like to gather some report about La Folie.
Sorry for posting in the Artemis area, I wasn't able to open a new thread fr La Folie, maybe administrator could do it.
I already got all the information one could read in the La Folie website (fees and rates...) and it tease me.
I just would like to undestand if it can be good for me.
I know many of you go to the Artemis FKK, but I don't feel attraction to big places and all the facilities included. I just enjoy a small place where I can relax a while, have an encounter with a girl and then leave.
Besides, I don't like paying 70 euro just to get in, I rather give that money to girl, if know what I mean.
So, looking at the website La Folie it all sounds good: cheap fees to get in, alchoolic drink allowed at reasonable price and girl at affordable rates... so what else is missing?
Please note that I am not looking for top-models or porn-stars-like girls, just an average good looking female in an easy-going environment. Important to me that they are nice, don't rush me and don't push me for extras.
Thank you.[/QUOTE]
I know exactly what you mean about large clubs. I avoid them because I just don't make any connections with women at the large clubs.
La Folie is small and the women are more like the girl next door than the women at Artemis.
And you are right, the pricing is definitely more favorable.
The weirdest thing about this place is the size of their towels. Its no bigger than a handkerchief and it won't wrap around your waist.
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[QUOTE=Jackyo]I know exactly what you mean about large clubs. I avoid them because I just don't make any connections with women at the large clubs.
La Folie is small and the women are more like the girl next door than the women at Artemis.
And you are right, the pricing is definitely more favorable.
The weirdest thing about this place is the size of their towels. Its no bigger than a handkerchief and it won't wrap around your waist.[/QUOTE]
Personally I think La Folie has changed in the past few years. As mentioned below, I was there last fall twice and both times I left without availing myself to the services. I found the women to be hard time pros or new EE girls who are just concerned about you buying them a picolo the moment you sit down.
I contrast this with several years ago (4-5) when I would meet lovely young girls (18-21) who worked there one or two nights to supplement their regular job income. They would want to chat (and tease;-)for as much as an hour before heading to a room.
Now it is-hello, buy me a picolo, lets go to a room...
No Thanks.
I am pretty sure, big as it is, Artimis os the better bet these days.
Though if you want a small bar there is always L'amour 2a. There you can sit and chat with the girls before taking one to a room. The girls are not bad-a bit skanky and rough-but nice.
[url]http://www.lamour2a.de/[/url]
And you can always post about these bars and other matters on the Berlin thread.
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[QUOTE=Kvaser]Hi Jayleesf.
Did I see you there? I'm a Swede in my mid 30s (although all girls said I look younger), 179 cm (5'11''), fairly slim, short black hair, somewhat hairy chest. Maybe there was 50 girls there if you stayed late? I never stayed later than 10: 45 PM. My favourites were a fairly tall German brunette called Svenya and a Moldovan blond with curly hair whose name I don't remember, she was wonderful. All these platinum blonde Poles were really beautiful, but not much fun in the sack. A really short blond girl named Dominika was a disappointment. Totally passive. I like girls with fire, passion, and committment, but if you're into calm girls I guess she'd appeal to you.[/QUOTE]Kvaser,
Sorry but there are too many guys to remember. Especially since I am paying attention to the girls I am a tall overweight asian guy. I usually stay downstairs in the wellness area and go up to the main floor when ready to session. Let me know when you are in town again and maybe we can meet up at Artemis.
I think the actual number of girls is probably somewhere between 30 and 50. Still enough to have a lot of fun.
I don't know Svenya (did she have long or short hair? ). Any recognizable tattoos? I would like to check her out next time.
The Moldovan with the curly hair is actually my favorite girl at Artemis. Her name is Shania and I have written about her a couple of times in this forum if you want more info. I did not session with her on Saturday. But only to add a little variety. I actually did not like the curly hair. Her hair is normally straight. Glad you had a chance to meet her.
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This is better information that I have
[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Personally I think La Folie has changed in the past few years. As mentioned below, I was there last fall twice and both times I left without availing myself to the services. I found the women to be hard time pros or new EE girls who are just concerned about you buying them a picolo the moment you sit down.
I contrast this with several years ago (4-5) when I would meet lovely young girls (18-21) who worked there one or two nights to supplement their regular job income. They would want to chat (and tease;-)for as much as an hour before heading to a room.
Now it is-hello, buy me a picolo, lets go to a room...
No Thanks.
I am pretty sure, big as it is, Artimis os the better bet these days.
Though if you want a small bar there is always L'amour 2a. There you can sit and chat with the girls before taking one to a room. The girls are not bad-a bit skanky and rough-but nice.
[url]http://www.lamour2a.de/[/url]
And you can always post about these bars and other matters on the Berlin thread.[/QUOTE]
Angus is, of course, our resident expert on Berlin and my information on La Folie is dated.
I remember meeting local girls there from Prenzlauer Berg, Gruenewald or Reinickendorf who would give me a sampling of Berliner [i]Schnauze[/i]. Too bad the selection has changed.
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John Smith's German FKK Adventures, Part 1
Hi guys, long time lurker, first time poster, yada yada.
So I'm backpacking around europe and had to check out the FKK clubs. Berlin was along my route and Artemis is reachable by public transportation, so that's the one.
I don't have my notes with me, can't tell you which S-Bahn stop it is (can be easily found elsewhere in this forum). But it can't be any easier to find, it's only a block from the station. At the station, go all the way up the big flight of stairs to the north. Then walk west across a small parking lot, then a bridge that crosses some train tracks. If you look south, you can see Artemis, especially at night, it's right next to the tracks. Keep going out to the main road, turn left (heading south) for one block, and you're there!
Paid the 70 euro entrance fee. There are two sets of lockers, some small ones out front for your wallet and other valuables, and bigger lockers back in the changing rooms for your clothes. Got changed into a robe, if I had this to do over, I would have just used a towel, since I'm younger and in better shape than most guys there, it would make the girls more interested, not that it mattered. Or at least more easy for them to reach under there and flirt with me. Also, when the girls are approaching me and rubbing their bodies against me, I should have gone for some free feels, but didn't. Oh well.
The club has three levels. Basement has a swimming pool, hot tubs and sauna. Main floor has the changing rooms, bar, and kitchen. Also there is an outside patio for use during the day. Upstairs are the rooms. You get between floors with a big circular staircase, pretty cool.
Oh, and I arrived after a long train ride, finally got to the place about 21:00 and wasn't even sure if I'd be able to perform! In any case, food was the first thing in order. Made it past the bar and stage area, approached by a couple of girls, told them I had to eat first. The girls eat in the same buffet area as the guys, but wear towels. You could probably talk to them there but I did't.
Finished eating, went back into the bar to check out the scene. The girls either walk around completely nude, or wearing a little skirt around their waist that doesn't really cover anything. Approached by several girls, told them I had just gotten there and was still working up to it, and I'd talk to them later. I was very nice to each girl and thanked her for talking to me. The most aggressive was the black "Brazilian" girl, I told her I'd talk to her later, she said I didn't like Brazilians, I told her I don't know, I never met any until now. She finally left me alone. While I was sitting there, she tried to chat up this older guy and he told her "Go away! " I figured it's probably the best policy to be nice to all the girls, even the ones you aren't interested in.
Anyway, out of about 20 girls there were several interesting prospects. Then, I zeroed in on my target. This very friendly, petite, dark haired girl. She was talking to several guys for a while and was genuinely just being friendly, her face and eyes are very animated. I was worried someone would take her up to a room but nobody did! After a while she left the bar and was standing next to the stairs up to the rooms. Finally, my chance to talk to her, I asked her if she was waiting for someone. She said, she was waiting for someone that wants to go up to a room, and if I wanted to go, we could go. She's German, from Cologne. Those southern German girls really have a look that I like, a little bit darker, almost French looking. I think her name was Sadie but I'm not sure. She has tattoos of butterflies in her pubic region. Even though I was tired, she had the little John woken up in no time and ready for action. 30 minutes, 60 euros. Body 10, face 10, attitude 9, performance 9.
Time for round two, I noticed this classic blonde looking german girl sitting around, but by the time I was ready to talk to her, she was headed to the kitchen to eat. Oh well. I went over to the first girl that had caught my eye when I walked into the place, Deborah, a petite slim Bulgarian girl. Not much in the face to look at but a perfect slim body. Got to the room and she explained the extras, 50 euros for CIM etc. I declined and got the standard 30 minutes, 60 euros. She was very passionate and worked hard to please me. Body 9, face 5, attitude 9, performance 10.
I felt after being so tired, that two times was probably my limit, plus I wanted to be sure and catch the subway back to my hostel. Check out the FKK Palace forum for part 2.
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Artemis Girls Keeping Time?
I found that post about the Artemis girls starting to keep time to be of interest. Just how are they doing that? Are they all wearing watches or do they have internal (and accurate) clocks?
By the way, if there are any resident experts on Berlin here, I would love to see more recent info on Mona and Kamila Dee over in the Berlin section.
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Southern German?
[QUOTE=John Smith 2112]She's German, from Cologne. Those southern German girls really have a look that I like, a little bit darker, almost French looking. I think her name was Sadie but I'm not sure. [/QUOTE]
Thanks for the newbie's perspective!
Koeln is north of their equivalent of the Mason-Dixon line (or the [i]Weisswurstaequator[/i]), by the way, so it is highly unlikely you were with a southern German chick.
Southern Germany consists of Baden-Wuerttemberg and Bayern. They aren't any darker than folks to the north typically.
I would even venture to guess that she was actually Turkish if she was actually noticeably darker (think olive complexioned).
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[QUOTE=Exoticspirit]I found that post about the Artemis girls starting to keep time to be of interest. Just how are they doing that? Are they all wearing watches or do they have internal (and accurate) clocks?
By the way, if there are any resident experts on Berlin here, I would love to see more recent info on Mona and Kamila Dee over in the Berlin section.[/QUOTE]
Can't help with Mona's as I have never been. But what do you want to know about KD? I will answer (if I have an answer...) on the Berlin board tp keep this one to it's intended topic.
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Keeping time
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit]I found that post about the Artemis girls starting to keep time to be of interest. Just how are they doing that? Are they all wearing watches or do they have internal (and accurate) clocks?
By the way, if there are any resident experts on Berlin here, I would love to see more recent info on Mona and Kamila Dee over in the Berlin section.[/QUOTE]Exoticspirit,
I don't consider the way the girls are keeping time a negative attribute. It also does not stop girls from going over the 30 minutes w/o charging extra. Mostly, my point was that the management was lecturing the girls be up front about the time spent in the room to avoid arguments when its time to pay the session fee. I have noticed that there are a lot less problems between the girls and customer post-session. I would be annoyed to have sessioned for like 35 minutes and getting charged 120 euros, especially if the girl does not mention it during the session. Just happy to hear that management is trying to avoid issues like this.
I have noticed that more girls are wearing watches. I always wear a watch at the clubs. I often extend to 60 minutes, so the watch lets me pace myself. I usually use up nearly the entire 30 or 60 minutes each time I go up to the room. Watch is also helpful with new girls who may try to shortchange you on time. Not a problem with my regulars.
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Day 1 at Artemis
Stayed at Kaiserdam Strabe which is just behind Messe and 15 minute walk froom Artemis. The area day and night looks empty but seemed safe. I had no worries at all of two days I spent at The Artemis.
After a long day of work finally I was at the gates of The Artemis on last Monday. Six a c'lock precise I paid my entrance fee of 70 Euro. After having shower I hit the bar area. 15-20 girls and same amount of mongers were there. Quality was not its upmost but improved by the night unfolded. Usual thing happened. As soon as I approached the bar area I was pestered with the sharks first. Politely refused. I had my drink and went downstairs to see whatelse was available. Nobody in the pool area except a beauty was resting on a chezlong. She had quite fine body. I had onother drink and went to see this finebody closer. Indeed she had greatbody and attitude when I found it later.
1. Silvia/Sahsa. This 40 years old beauty is from Hungary. First she told me her name was Silvia later in the zimmer she asked me call her Sasha (a stage name)Whatever It was her name at this age her curv body was awesome, her planted breasts were almost natural and clean shaven pussy matched 18 years old ones. Our conversation was very pleasant and long before the room.
Her talents were excellent. A long and wet BBBJ, top to the bottom body kissing, passionate DFK and several positions of steamy sex. She mentioned me that she only works day time until 8 c'clock. That was a good start for a long long night.
2. Masha. After having sauna and refusing upstair bar area beatuies I went to kino where I had great services on my first visit. I just sat this bubly blonde 24 years old Russian chick named Masha with huge tits came along. Wonderful smile and appeal resulted going to room. This girl is not a model type and got bit kilos extra but you could have lots have fantasies with her. And I did most of it. A wild BBBJ followed, 69, more wholesome pussy eating, tit fuck and followed with missionary and dogy. She kept smiling with pleasure all the way.
3. Konstance. Had my dinner and took long break and sat by the bar. Usual asking of sex and refusing them went on. Some have got upset easly thinking that I didn't want them which was true partly but money and filling the balls were to consider. And this model type a fresh talent appeared from the door. Curly black hair with perfect D-cups and suprisingly blue eyes (lens? )Konstance is 21 year old from Romania. Luck I was she came close where I was sitting. Eye contact was inevitable. While She was having her drink we had a chat about her country, Germany and so on. She has been in Artemis just 2 months and was enjoying the work.
Our conversation continued in the room. She was a good joice. We started our action on the sofa A deep DFK was the start, went on with DATY that pussy was from heaven. BBBJ was slow and passionete carried on 69. Came on top first, missionary and dogy for the finale. I just didn't want to finish with her. She can be the reason to return. Awesome she was.
4. Valentina I. From Litiuenia. This 26 years old blond, leggy, perfect with natural tits was the next. I was feeling tried but I could not just refused her. She had something that attached me to her. A nice smile and soft talk took me to the room. She had tasty pussy with nice lips. A bit rushed BBBJ and 69 followed a long dogy and missionary.
5. Katya. Having another sauna and swim in the pool. I rested and slept about an hour to refill. Ready for more. Sat in kino and pesred mose girls none seemed OK. And Katya appeared. She is Ukraine. A blond 20 something, natural breasts, soft sking and great laugh. Without knowing she was the fifth on the night worked very hard to pleased me. At the end she described me as Kalashnikov gun. This sparked me a distant memory that she was the last girl back in last September.
6. Valentina II. This Hungarian top to the bottom siliconed porn style shark pesterd me all night long. Whenever she came along I was resting from a session (Actually there was a teenager looking German girl who was much nicer than her who had the same problem she was either always late or early so never had a chance with her)I didn't want to be rude. At the end I pointed her that I would go to room If she makes me come otherwise no pay. She accepted that was until we entered the room. Her attitude changed while we were getting ready for the action. No DFK, reluctant and fast DATY, no fingering and cheating fuck. Her sixth position didn't made her any good. I took my time I banged her hard that she was in sweat. I made sure that my money didn't go easly. Next day whenever she had seen me she stayed away from me. Never dare to ask again.
7. Alice form Poland 26 years old. Next door girl type brunette. Easy to have chat and nice body with natural tits. I wasn't sure I had any strenght and fluid left but she was nice try to finish and also money was low for the night. She hasn't got the body to die for but she is GFE, soft, cudly and warm. Usual action took place. This time I let her go take the pace. I enjoyed her sensual approach. My night ended with a happy finale at 2 c'lock in the morning.
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[QUOTE=Exoticspirit]I found that post about the Artemis girls starting to keep time to be of interest. Just how are they doing that? Are they all wearing watches or do they have internal (and accurate) clocks?[/QUOTE]Hi Exoticspirit.
Yeah, all the girls I nailed wore watches. Maybe there was some discrete form of clock in the rooms to help the girls but I knever saw such a device, I guess I was too much into the pleasures of the flesh to notice.
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[QUOTE=Jayleesf]Exoticspirit,
I have noticed that more girls are wearing watches. I always wear a watch at the clubs. I often extend to 60 minutes, so the watch lets me pace myself. I usually use up nearly the entire 30 or 60 minutes each time I go up to the room. Watch is also helpful with new girls who may try to shortchange you on time. Not a problem with my regulars.[/QUOTE]
Not being an FKK regular this is more of a general comment on keeping time.
IMO much depends upon where (which kind of establishment) you are visiting. For the FKK girls I am sure it is a question of volume. Especially if you are obviously a tourist, or at least an infrequent visitor, it may be tempting for them to try to get an extra paid half hour from the customer. So I would say it is at least partly the customer's responsibility to keep a check on time to avoid hassles and extra surprise charges. You may not want that responsibility but there it is.
In other types of establishments (bordellos) it depends upon the quality of the place and really how much you pay for the session. The lower places, the girls will let you know the time, usually well before it is actually over...
Middle places (e.g.Müller II) the Hausmutti will give the door a knock at the half hour. When this has happened to me (infrequently) the girl has never had a problem with me taking a few more minutes to finish.
The higher, more expensive establishment (e.g. KD) I have never had a problem with time. If all is going well I have had as much as 15 minutes extended on the half hour at no extra charge, though usually this time is spent talking and cuddling after a session.
I think with all types of establishments (though again my experience is mostly with bordellos) there is also the factor of being a regular. If you come back again and again the girls are much more likely to cut you some slack as far as extra time goes and I am sure that the management supports this-it is good for business. But I also like to make sure the girl knows that I am aware that we are overtime so that if need be we can renegotiate. It is good business to make sure that both are happy with the transaction.
Just my 2 cents on this issue.
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[QUOTE=Jayleesf]Kvaser,
Sorry but there are too many guys to remember. Especially since I am paying attention to the girls I am a tall overweight asian guy. I usually stay downstairs in the wellness area and go up to the main floor when ready to session. Let me know when you are in town again and maybe we can meet up at Artemis.
I think the actual number of girls is probably somewhere between 30 and 50. Still enough to have a lot of fun.
I don't know Svenya (did she have long or short hair? ). Any recognizable tattoos? I would like to check her out next time.
The Moldovan with the curly hair is actually my favorite girl at Artemis. Her name is Shania and I have written about her a couple of times in this forum if you want more info. I did not session with her on Saturday. But only to add a little variety. I actually did not like the curly hair. Her hair is normally straight. Glad you had a chance to meet her.[/QUOTE]Jayleesf, did you by any chance read a book about Berlin in one of the couches in the wellness area? There was a big asian guy reading such a book when I was there, maybe it was you?
Svenya did have black panties (not a thong), a black thing on her upper body covering her shoulders but not her breasts, and natural breasts, maybe a B-cup I'd guess. No tattoos that I can remember.
So Shania was her name. Good to know. I love curly hair as long as the curls are not too small, i.e. not naturally curly hair. Yes, she was wonderful.
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2.day at the Artemis
It wasn't my intention to have a second day at the Artemis but Devil inside me said go ahead after a long day with work and boring bussiness dinner. I was thinking to have a rest and ready for Baldi's Party Treff next day. Being close to Artemis was enough so I ended up infront of the door at 12AM. As soon as I entered what is available made me that I had a good decision. Bar area was bussy and noisy with pool dancing so I went to my favorite place the kino.
1. Dina. There were two girls sitting at the back, one of them Dina who had my attention previous day being noisy and loud speaker, she also seemed a shark way the way she acted. This time she was with another girl. She called me sit with them. A bit reluctant I joined them to see what was on offer. She speaks perfect Turkish, German and Russian and her English was fine too. She cliamed that she was from White Russia. Her friend Svetlana had no English only Russian and some German I guess. The offer, she put it roughly without a shame, a double of steamy hardcore sex. She promides me I would have a life time experience. Oh yes. That was I needed but wasn't sure It would happened with her. She insisted to do that. I declined. I was ready to have someone so I asked to go with one of them. Later I would have the other. Dina was the first. Swetlana would get another session. Dina ruled me to nearby room. Got undressed. Not a perfect body but great ass, olive skin and long legs.
This girl is wild cat. Never stops moaning, speaking dirty words, screams all the time. Gave a deep DFK and BBBJ, followed with a ball licking. I had my 69, fingerd her her brown pussy. When it came to sex she became wilder that one point I lost my stemina. It was too distracting having too much noise and action. I asked her take it easy. She only took my word for few minutes. It was a few minutes later she was same. There was no choise but to join her in a rough way. I went behind of her and I put my fingers to her mouth banged her harder than the usual. At the end she was still talking and asking whether I would have her friend Svetlana next. Crazy she was. I've told her I would have her next. It was a promise.
2. Xena. After having a crazy session with Dina I needed rest. Had sauna, cold shower, a late supper from buffet, had a nice talk with Masha from first day, refused some hot chicks. I was again in Kino at right back. Waiting for my next session. There she was. Xena a German. A nice face, nicely done boob job, tall slender legs and shinning skin with dark hair. Mr. Little Rizla was ready.
She offered me start in the kino and carry on in the room. After a lenghtly DFK she kneeled infront of me sucked me deep. With the porn movie on the screen that was nice. Later she climbed on sofa and sat my face. Her pussy was smooth and juicy. When we moved to zimmer her body looked much better after dark kino. Bit more BBBJ followed four position sex. Her pink arse was an invitation for an deep anal but 100 Euro barrier stoped me doing that.
3. Svetlana. I usually keep my promises and I did for her. I watched those two from distance. Dina chased nearly every men for her services. But this girl was always standing alone and getting few bussiness. Maybeit was the the language barrier. One point Dina managed a double with a guy and they went to the room. I also neede some rest anyway. When I thought I was ready I found them lying on the sofas near buffet. Swetlana looked much better in the light. Because her English was limited Dina told her to go with me. She was suprised that I 've had come backfor her. Her smile grew and ruled me to the room.
After having a wild session with Dina this girl was a soft cat. Her body was perfect. We had all the way DFK, very generous BBBJ, 69, DATY and four positions. She was the one of those that I wouldn't want to finish. We were both sweating when we had finished. Dina was right she was good. Actually much better than her. A real GFE I have had with her.
4. Conceta. It was nearly 3AM. I felt I was tired and thinking to go to sleep. But Conceta approached me several times whenever I refused her that I was resting she was nice to say She would comeback. Indeed she did. There weren't many guys left this time of the hour. I think she was trying to get more bussiness before closing time. I was one of her targets. A few Russian MILFs tried to have me but I declined. This beauty was much more appealing. At the end It didn't take long to reach to room.
Conceta, as she says, is half German half Italian. She's got pearl skin, nicely done boobjob and a tatoo of her boyfriend's name on her shoulders. And a firm thight pussy resembles an asshole. One point I was wondering which hole I was in. She wasn't very keen on DFK because of her caughing. Rest was OK. After two days of orgy my strength was at final stage and no juice left I had the cut short before coming. She was a bit upset about that I had not finished. I told her that it wasn't her fault. She asked to do some HJ. That even didn't help. That was the end. A very happy end. My balls and my pocket was empty but happy of having these two days of Sodomy.
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Great!!
Great reces Rizla!
Thanks a lot!
Does anybody knows how many it costs a session in the room with jacuzzi?
Artemis, wait for me.
I'm coming!
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Personally I think La Folie has changed in the past few years. As mentioned below, I was there last fall twice and both times I left without availing myself to the services. I found the women to be hard time pros or new EE girls who are just concerned about you buying them a picolo the moment you sit down.
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Now it is-hello, buy me a picolo, lets go to a room...
No Thanks.
I am pretty sure, big as it is, Artimis os the better bet these days.
Though if you want a small bar there is always L'amour 2a. There you can sit and chat with the girls before taking one to a room. The girls are not bad-a bit skanky and rough-but nice.[/QUOTE]Thank you Angus Magee for your tip about La Folie. Not being a regular of this places and not speaking German still I don't understand what is a "picolo". Anyway, I think I will forget it and maybe turn myself to the Artemis.
(Thank you very much Rizla as well for your detailed report)
Still I don't get on with the idea of paying 70 euro at the door and going for the sex-binge in order to make it worth, but it seems there are not many options.
The link you gave me for "L'amour2a" was helpful, except that. Gosh. Girls in the picture don't look very attractive.
Or maybe I could take advantage out of your bordello experience and try one. Which one would you reccomend?
Thanks
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I believe the price for using the VIP room are that you have to book a girl for an hour and buy a bottle of champagne per hour you want to spend in the room.
[QUOTE=The Domine]Great reces Rizla!
Thanks a lot!
Does anybody knows how many it costs a session in the room with jacuzzi?
Artemis, wait for me.
I'm coming![/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Sexual Healing]Thank you Angus Magee for your tip about La Folie. Not being a regular of this places and not speaking German still I don't understand what is a "picolo". Anyway, I think I will forget it and maybe turn myself to the Artemis.
(Thank you very much Rizla as well for your detailed report)
Still I don't get on with the idea of paying 70 euro at the door and going for the sex-binge in order to make it worth, but it seems there are not many options.
The link you gave me for "L'amour2a" was helpful, except that. Gosh. Girls in the picture don't look very attractive.
Or maybe I could take advantage out of your bordello experience and try one. Which one would you reccomend?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
A picolo is a small bottle of sparkling wine or "champagne" sold in bars where the women are available for backroom fun. The idea is that while you sit and talk, she has something to drink and the bar (and I imagine the lady gets a kick back) makes money. You see the picolo will cost around 20€.
Now I am ot against this overall. I understand that th bar and the lady hav to make money and this is how they do it. My objection comes when the lady asks in the first one or two minutes if you will buy her a picolo-before I even know if I really want a chat with her.
Heh Heh Heh, yes the girls do look a little rough in those pics don't they. Maybe KD (Kamila Dee) would be a better choice. Lots of info on KD in the Berlin forum.
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[QUOTE=DkFatBastard]I believe the price for using the VIP room are that you have to book a girl for an hour and buy a bottle of champagne per hour you want to spend in the room.[/QUOTE]And translated in euro it means = ?
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For the girl 120€ and for the champagne, you'll have to ask the club, I would guess minimum 100€ for a bottle.
[QUOTE=The Domine]And translated in euro it means = ?[/QUOTE]
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Yup that was me
[QUOTE=Kvaser]Jayleesf, did you by any chance read a book about Berlin in one of the couches in the wellness area? There was a big asian guy reading such a book when I was there, maybe it was you?
Svenya did have black panties (not a thong), a black thing on her upper body covering her shoulders but not her breasts, and natural breasts, maybe a B-cup I'd guess. No tattoos that I can remember.
So Shania was her name. Good to know. I love curly hair as long as the curls are not too small, i.e. not naturally curly hair. Yes, she was wonderful.[/QUOTE]Kvaser,
Yes, that was me :) How often are you at Artemis? Come say hi next time.
I will have to look for Svenya next time.
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[QUOTE=Jayleesf]Kvaser,
Yes, that was me :) How often are you at Artemis? Come say hi next time.
I will have to look for Svenya next time.[/QUOTE]This was my first trip to Berlin ever and I'm afraid I won't have time to go back until next year, maybe at Easter. Is that a good time to visit Artemis, you think?
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I Will Be There Aug 21
I plan to be at Artemis on Aug 21 probably from about 5 or 6 pm to 10 or 11 pm.
Anybody else going to be there?
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[QUOTE=Kvaser]This was my first trip to Berlin ever and I'm afraid I won't have time to go back until next year, maybe at Easter. Is that a good time to visit Artemis, you think?[/QUOTE]Kvaser,
I don't know if there is a bad time for a visit. I wasn't there during Easter this year but the lineup during the Spring was just fine.
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OK guys, a couple of short questions;
1) How do you pay (cash, credit?) and how does Artemis keep track of the number of girls you've been with?
2) I get exited pretty quickly, do you see a lot of guys walking around with erections? It's not that big of a deal to me, but I was just wondering if I'm the only one that get's horny so quickly when seeing loads of gorgeous, skimpy dressed women.
3) Is there any sex going on in public or is it restricted to the private rooms?
4) I heard Thursday and Saturday are good/busy nights, can anyone confirm what the slow nights are?
5) Watches. I have an expensive watch and don't want to leave it in my hotel room. Do you have to leave your watch in the locker, or can you wear it?
I'm thinking about going to Artemis next week, depending how much time I have left before my flight home after finishing work in Berlin.
Looking foward to writing a report next week!! ;)
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1) How do you pay (cash, credit?) and how does Artemis keep track of the number of girls you've been with?
You can pay the entrance fee cash or with credit card, and after every sessione with a girl you pay her cash.
2) I get exited pretty quickly, do you see a lot of guys walking around with erections? It's not that big of a deal to me, but I was just wondering if I'm the only one that get's horny so quickly when seeing loads of gorgeous, skimpy dressed women.
No, you can wear a towel or a bath towel, so you can hide you erection. I had one in public before going with a girl but I hided it without problems.
3) Is there any sex going on in public or is it restricted to the private rooms?
If you go to see a movie a girl can come near you and begin something (hand or blow job), but then you go in a room for the action. There are some couches in the main room but there are curtains when you can hide. Anyway, you can always ask the girl to go to a room.
4) I heard Thursday and Saturday are good/busy nights, can anyone confirm what the slow nights are?
I went on Saturday, there were a lot of beautiful girls, more than during the week, also many men, but no problem in finding a girl.
5) Watches. I have an expensive watch and don't want to leave it in my hotel room. Do you have to leave your watch in the locker, or can you wear it?
The first time I left the watch in the locker (which is safe, don't worry), the second one I wore it (you can do it, but if you take a shower you have to take care of it).
I'm thinking about going to Artemis next week, depending how much time I have left before my flight home after finishing work in Berlin.
I hope you went to Artemis, for me it was a wonderful experience and a wonderful place, the paradise of ****!
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Watches
[QUOTE=Horny Harry]5) Watches. I have an expensive watch and don't want to leave it in my hotel room. Do you have to leave your watch in the locker, or can you wear it? [/QUOTE]
I'll leave it to my esteemed colleagues on this forum to answer your other questions.
You will need a watch to time your sessions.
Any watch will do. It needn't be anything expensive. It just needs to work and be water tight.
I broke the crystal on a watch not once but twice at the showers at Atlantis. Since then a simple plastic Swatch is all I wear when I visit a club.
As to leaving your watch in the locker or wearing it. You can do anything you want. The club doesn't have any liability for valuables in its lockers though.
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[QUOTE=Anarkypg]You can pay the entrance fee cash or with credit card, and after every sessione with a girl you pay her cash.[/QUOTE]They also have an ATM in the club if you need more cash.
[QUOTE=Horny Harry]I heard Thursday and Saturday are good/busy nights, can anyone confirm what the slow nights are?[/QUOTE]You are right. Thursday, Friday and Saturday are the busiest days.
Slow nights are usually Sundays and Mondays. Slow nights are not always equal to bad nights though.
[QUOTE=Horny Harry]Watches. I have an expensive watch and don't want to leave it in my hotel room. Do you have to leave your watch in the locker, or can you wear it? [/QUOTE]You can wear your watch or leave it in your valuables safe at Artemis, the same place as there you put your wallet. Don't put it in the clothes locker.
You have to be careful not to lose your key somewhere though.
Maybe it's better to leave the watch in the hotel after all. I would probably do that or wear the watch at all times.
Lots of people wear watches in the club but as Jackyo said most people wear a cheap plastic watch, just for the purpose of keeping track of the time.
Good luck
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Mondays
I had a lot fun on my first night which was Monday.So Mondays seem fine at Artemis. Being not many clients meant good service with most of the girls.
Recommended.
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[QUOTE=Anarkypg]2) I get exited pretty quickly, do you see a lot of guys walking around with erections? It's not that big of a deal to me, but I was just wondering if I'm the only one that get's horny so quickly when seeing loads of gorgeous, skimpy dressed women.
No, you can wear a towel or a bath towel, so you can hide you erection. I had one in public before going with a girl but I hided it without problems.[/QUOTE]But men shouln't wear a bathrobe? Don't say to me that we have to walk around naked. I asked about and I was convinced of this: NO men naked and NO gay at the Artemis. If not so I have to renounce to visit it!
Please, let me know. I'm not sure now.
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[QUOTE=The Domine]But men shouln't wear a bathrobe? Don't say to me that we have to walk around naked. I asked about and I was convinced of this: NO men naked and NO gay at the Artemis. If not so I have to renounce to visit it!
Please, let me know. I'm not sure now.[/QUOTE]
Guten Tag Herr The Domine
I guess you will see fully naked men walking around in Artemis just like you do in the Hessen big three. At Oase - many men in the not their prime state sun bath totally stark bollock naked.
Then men also wander around looking for fresh towels after showering totally naked.
The showers are communal so you should be prepared to see schlongs a plenty during your stay unless you do not shower the entire that you are in the house.
The recommendation is to wear a bath towel around the waist and maybe as brief as possible so that more of you is exposed to the ministrations of the ladies who are naked as well. You get to feel more of her as she leans in near to you and she has easier access to your scrotal assets or to you maybe sensitive nipples to be licked and tickled.
It is not cool to wear your shorts underneath the towel.
So yes, as men are in towels or bathrobes then you will see testicle sacs on show and shafts whether in a limp state or in their full erect glory around as men sit and relax or get a blow job in public.
I expect you cannot guarantee no homosexual men at the FKK clubs. You may find some being dragged along by work colleagues or their straight friends or some may be coming along to se what the fuss is about out of interest. To bar homosexual men and women from their clubs regardless that they are private would be discrimination and this is not a label that any club wishes to be tainted with. Maybe if someone was distinctly in the wrong place then a suggestion from the thekenfrau may guide them away but I guess you cannot turn people away because of their sexual orientation.
The point I am trying to make is be prepared to see naked men and there can be gay men in the club but the general concept is that there should be very few if any in attendance.
Kind regards
Londonbasketcase
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Bathrobes ar for sissies only. ;-) You should wear a towel to cover yourself, that's the usuals dresscode for men in clubs.
HB
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At he artemis you wear a bathrobe, but you can also wear just a towel. I don't know in other clubs. Anyway, no gays in Artemis!
[QUOTE=Hessen Bub]Bathrobes ar for sissies only. ;-) You should wear a towel to cover yourself, that's the usuals dresscode for men in clubs.
HB[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=The Domine]But men shouln't wear a bathrobe? Don't say to me that we have to walk around naked. I asked about and I was convinced of this: NO men naked and NO gay at the Artemis. If not so I have to renounce to visit it!
Please, let me know. I'm not sure now.[/QUOTE]
I am sure there are some men who go to the club just to see you nekked.
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[QUOTE=Horny Harry]
2) I get exited pretty quickly, do you see a lot of guys walking around with erections? It's not that big of a deal to me, but I was just wondering if I'm the only one that get's horny so quickly when seeing loads of gorgeous, skimpy dressed women.[/QUOTE]
I think there are 2 issues here:
1. Getting an erection by seeing so many naked girls around: It can be a shock the first time you visit a FKK indeed, but the vast majority no longer get excited by seeing naked girls around. So you may be one of the rare, if not the only one, to get an erection by seeing naked girls. But don't worry, nobody pays attention and you'll get used to seeing naked girls quickly anyway and won't have an erection yourself anymore.
2. Guys walking around with an erection: This occasionally happened to me when I have a blowjob in the common areas and then we move to the room, so I guess it happens with other people too, but I never paid attention and I guess nobody else paid attention.
[QUOTE=Hessen Bub]Bathrobes ar for sissies only. ;-) You should wear a towel to cover yourself, that's the usuals dresscode for men in clubs.[/QUOTE]
Except that, if you are a huge guy, the towel may not be large enough. I've seen some guys so pissed up that they renounce to put the towel around their hips and just carry it on their shoulders.
Also, you'll seen naked guys in the showers, in the jacuzzi and swimming pool, sun-bathing, etc...
In other words, if you're concerned about other people seeing you naked, you have a towel to protect you most of the time (although you still need to go to public shower, but that's the same in any sport club), but if seeing other guys naked is a sight that offends you, you shouldn't go to a FKK.
Jim
PS: If I remember it correctly, at Artemis, you have the choice between a towel and a bathrobe (for better "protection"). Many clubs give you only a towel.
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If being seen naked by other people is a big concern, why even come to think of visiting a FKK club? Just a thought...
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Just a question
Thanks for all your advices about Artemis but I would like to know something about prices I understand that the entrance is 70 euros but for 30 minutes with a girl is it 60 or 80 euros? Is it possible to discuss prices?
Thanks for your answer
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[QUOTE=Frenchieboy]I understand that the entrance is 70 euros but for 30 minutes with a girl is it 60 or 80 euros?[/QUOTE]60 €.
[QUOTE=Frenchieboy]Is it possible to discuss prices?[/QUOTE]No.
However if you feel you are being ripped off you can always talk to the management and hope they side with you.
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[QUOTE=Rizla44]I should thank the Viagra & other Performance Enhancers forum providing the usefull information about Zinc as a semen volume expander. That realy have worked. Next was Baldi's Partytreff in Legende.[/QUOTE]Rizla44,
I am impressed! Can you (or others) please tell me the secrets? It could be cool to have it up, hard and ready for 7 or more in a night as you had the 1.st day at Artemis.
I am healthy guy but can unfortunately only do it twice a day. Can use of Viagra disturb my natural ability to have an erection?
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Artemis Tonight
I will be visiting Artemis for the first time tonight. Will plan to get there about 5 pm. Staying at Hotel Honigshof which is only one s_baun station away as this hotel (breakfast and internet included) is right across the street from a station.
Also a five minute walk from Club Mona which I did last night - review is in the Berlin section.
I will get a review of this Artemis visit soon.
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My Artemis Visit
Okay, just got back from Artemis and here are my lengthy impressions. This was my first FKK club so I'm going to comment on the entire FKK concept as well.
The Club
Artemis is indeed an upscale place as shown in the photos of their website. Change rooms were clean as was the indoor swim area. Showers were a bit of a pain since they only come out in spurts so you have to keep pushing the knob for continuous water. But as for general facilities including the private rooms, I would give it a high rating for sure. Food was so-so but passable. As a tip, when the restaurant area opens up at 6 pm, the room will be packed as it seems that 70% of the girls rush in to feed their faces. So it might be better to wait until the rush is over before grabbing dinner. I ended up eating only a light meal at first since I didn't want to overeat. Besides, they keep the food there through the evening so I had seconds just before I left.
The club is easy to find. Just get off S-baun station Westkreutz and walk over the bridge once outside the station to Halensee. Turn left at Halensee where you will find a tire shop. Keep walking down and around the curve and you will soon come to a second tire shop. Artemis is right behind it in a large building with the huge sign Artemis on top.
The Atmosphere
Things are sure different, at least from what I'm use to by North American standards. They have female bartenders overlooking the pool area as well as change room attendants who keep the place spotless. But since the concept of the FKK club holds, men are swimming in the pool naked, going in the saunas naked, showering naked all in plain view of the attendants. I went along with it since it was the way things are done here. Didn't really bother me though.
What I do have a problem with, is that the main lounge area on the main floor is a smoking section. I could stand only little periods of a time there. The downstairs lounge near the pool is much better since it's non-smoking but much quieter. This can be good or bad. Most of the girls do not come down here so you could miss some traffic but having said that, it you want to escape the aggressive girls, downstairs is a place to do it. For smokers, the main lounge won't be an issue but for non-smokers like myself, this is a major problem of the club in my mind.
The other thing which surprised me was that there were two male massage attendants in the pool area. Massage sessions were extra charge. I would have thought that none of the guys would want massages from men but these two male workers were actually quite busy throughout the time I was there.
The Girls
Of course I have to comment on the girls. There are some sharks for sure and I fell victim to one for my first go. Okay it wasn't that bad but I'll report on specifics on the girls I took on a separate review. They tend to circulate and would even wander to the pool area but not as frequent as in the main floor. These girls became a bit annoying for me after awhile. As far as types, there are a surprisingly diverse number of shapes and sizes here. Lots of pot bellies seen but there are indeed some hotties too. I didn't find these girls to be as friendly as say the usual strippers in North American clubs, especially in Montreal. These girls tend not to want to socialize too much unless they know that they will be having you as a customer for sure.
What The Club Lacks
Despite all the luxuries of the club, I really feel that the club lacks a few things. The first in my mind are TV screens with sports playing. After all, the club is for men. They could have added internet access as well. The only reason why I say that these items should be added is that most of the guys in my observation, spent a lot of time just wandering around different areas of the club. There are really no strip dance shows to watch even if you are in between private sessions with a girl. There's really nothing to do so some guys hit the sauna, some take dips in the pool and some even sleep. There is a weight training room with lots of good gym equipment but I didn't see anyone using them. There are two rooms called kinos which are basically mini theatres playing non stop porn but these are actually some target rooms that the sharks go to.
The Overall Concept
Again, this was my first FKK experience and my feelings are a bit mixed. Sure it's nice to be in a place that is luxurious and with lots of naked women walking around. But I think that this would have been a better experience if I went there with some others. In fact, I saw many local guys there who came in numbers, much like an outing to a strip club. Guys were hanging out together whether in the lounge or pool areas. At least in numbers, there is someone to talk to. When one is alone with not much to do, we end up having guys wander the club aimlessly. I'm not sure if all guys ended up participating in private sessions with the girls either. There were many guys there who didn't take any girls by my observation. Maybe it is a place to hang out as well.
Personally, I've become a one shot, one girl per day is enough for me type of guy. So I had some pressure put on myself coming into Artemis. Loaded up on Viagra that a friend gave me since I thought that I would need some artificial help if I'm to do multiples in a single evening. There is pressure to do multiples at FKK clubs in order to bring the price per session down. Now, I don't know if it was the Viagra, the atmosphere or a combo, but I had two different girls and although I was able to do the act both sessions, I was unable to finish each one. So I called it a night at two.
In contrast, just the evening before, I did the typical Berlin bordello outing (see my review on Club Mona in the Berlin section). For less money and less luxury, I think I ended up having a better session at Club Mona (and no problems with not finishing either) compared to Artemis. So if I ever visit Berlin or Germany again, I'm not so sure if I would do another FKK club. I don't need all the extras such as pools, saunas, etc. I would probably do the single session visits to bordellos instead especially since Berlin has many reputable ones. But that's just me.
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The Artemis Girls I Had
Okay, I had only two girls at Artemis as pointed out in my review of the club. The first one was a shark named Fana. She's a darked haired girl from Hungary. Pretty good looking and friendly too.
But during the act, she had this annoying habit. She kept urging me to finish and slapped my ass. I didn't really like that. Although she didn't disrespect the time (30 minutes), I was annoyed after awhile that I ended up the session probably at 20 minutes and thanked her for trying. As in my review, I never finished either of my two sessions maybe due to the atmosphere and/or Viagra I loaded up on to prepare for multiple girls for the first time.
I would avoid this girl because of her annoying habit unless you are okay with girls urging you to finish quickly.
The other one I took was a nice Polish blonde named Katerina. Fake tits but didn't rush. Although I didn't finish with her either, she tried her best. So she would get top marks from me.
Still, both these Artemis girls were not as good as the German MILF I had at the Mona place the night before.
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Artemis vs Palace
Greetings Friends-
I apologize if this questions has been asked before, and based on the content of ISG I am sure it has (although I could not find in archives).
So if you make ONE visit to Europe a year, and have the opportunity to spend 7 hours at one FKK....what do you choose...Palace or Artemis?
I have the opportunity to visit either city for an entire Friday evening coming up this December. I have been to Palace before, never to Artemis (nor Berlin for that matter). I have never been disapointed at Palace. However Artemis intrigues me a bit.
Thank you kindly for any responses.
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Neither
[QUOTE=Dave Jamsis]So if you make ONE visit to Europe a year, and have the opportunity to spend 7 hours at one FKK....what do you choose...Palace or Artemis?[/QUOTE]
There's no one definitive answer to this, as personal prefernce plays a big part in this, but when I have a short stopover in FRA, I go to Oase. Easy access by car or trains, and since you're not a regular visitor and can't build up a roster of preferred providers, it's also a less risky place if you're choosing blind.
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[QUOTE=Dave Jamsis]So if you make ONE visit to Europe a year, and have the opportunity to spend 7 hours at one FKK....what do you choose...Palace or Artemis?
[/QUOTE]If you are going to spend 7 hours at Artemis, better bring a good book. See my recent review.
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Fana of Hungary
[quote=exoticspirit]okay, i had only two girls at artemis as pointed out in my review of the club. the first one was a shark named fana. she's a darked haired girl from hungary. pretty good looking and friendly too.
but during the act, she had this annoying habit. she kept urging me to finish and slapped my ass. i didn't really like that. although she didn't disrespect the time (30 minutes), i was annoyed after awhile that i ended up the session probably at 20 minutes and thanked her for trying. as in my review, i never finished either of my two sessions maybe due to the atmosphere and/or viagra i loaded up on to prepare for multiple girls for the first time.
i would avoid this girl because of her annoying habit unless you are okay with girls urging you to finish quickly.[/quote]
i saw and talked to fana of hungary when i was visiting artemis as well. i did not session with her. she was not my type being slightly milfy and a had a hustler about her. she was very good with the sell tactics, feeling my chest and nipples, nuzzling my face and trying to kiss me on the lips in the main bar room.
fana has long dark hair, a decent body, b cups, average build but an overall look that did not do it for me. sorry that was not meant in a bad way. the chemistry just was not there when she was doing all the right moves to get me aroused as my little lbc poked up and i had to really hide the fella since she found he was up and started masturbating little lbc. i had to definitely say no that i was not ready.
she seemed to me to be a good session if i went with her but i knew that i would be panicking because the visuals were not there. maybe i am like some other guys - the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] types are the preference. fana did not fit this mould.
i did 11 sessions over 3 visits to artemis. i know, promised write up to come.
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Artemis - some questions
hello guys,
i've read a lot about artemis on this forum and i think i'm ready to go for it. but still have a few doubts. that's why i would like to ask you some questions. please if anybody can answer even only for one question i would be very pleased, i hope some of you can answer all questions.
1. i'm 30 but i look younger, i have never been in a such crazy, funny, sexy place but i would like to experience it. if i can look strange or more young 20's years old men can i meet and this place?
2. how many woman can i expect on friday at 12. 00 in the morning, and how many womany can i expect on thursday 23. 00?
3. my favourite type of the girl is rather [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] and i know i can find a sexy girl if she is over 18 till 24 yo. i like young looking, cute faces and slim babes and if she is tiny. up to 167 cm. that's is excellent for me! do i have a chance to meet my perfect girl there? or even close to my dream girl?
4. in the sex kinos. if i sat and any lady comes and start sucking me without asking and i don't refuse her but after a few minutes i tell her that's enough thanks and i don't want to go with you. it will be ok? or i should tell her at the beginning. don't touch me please, i don't want it. can she treat me like a bastard? i sucke you 5 minute and now you don't want me? or it will be ok i'll say thank you for now.
5. in sex kino is the thing normal ladies go to the end by sucking a man? and after you climax you have to pay her without going to the room? or rather it is forbiidden in that place?
6. are there any areas where i an seat to be sure i can rest and no women can ask me are you going with me?
7. can you tell me how many girls of my type i can expect on friday 12:00 and thursday 23. 00?
that it is for now. please let me know everything you can. thanks in advance
obama
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Just go there
Obama friend
1. Those girls don't look at your age they are after your Euros.
2. You'll see at least 20 by 12 clock.After that no less than 30-40
3. Just go there.There isn't any dream girl there. There are tons of them.I promise you are going to forget your dream girl forever.But beware of the sharks who will pester you constantly.
4. They never go down without agreeing for the action.No means no.When the action starts there is no way to go back.It's 50Euros.You make your mind before that otherwise it's not fair toward the girl as long as she acts accordingly..
5. It's up to you to fiinish in the Kino.You want to finish in room you just ask the girl.She'll take you anywhere you like.
6. The best place is downstairs bar area.They usually don't bother the guys overthere.It's also quite because no music there.
7. Same answer as NO.2.
No worries ,be happy..
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[QUOTE=Rizla44]Obama friend
1. Those girls don't look at your age they are after your Euros.[/quote]Thank you very much! But m english isn't perfect and I don't understand this sentence "Those girls don't look at your age they are after your Euros. " Can you explain writing again more simply for me, maybe I'm not too smart to understand this. So can I expect a lot of girls, "tons of" my dream girls there? Or what, please tell me again
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[QUOTE=Obama]Thank you very much! But m english isn't perfect and I don't understand this sentence "Those girls don't look at your age they are after your Euros. " Can you explain writing again more simply for me, maybe I'm not too smart to understand this. So can I expect a lot of girls, "tons of" my dream girls there? Or what, please tell me again[/QUOTE]
Hi Obama,
It means it doesn't matter how old you are so long as you have enough money. There will be enough women there that will fit your criteria i.e. young and petite.
Have fun!
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Artemis
Hey Obama,
I was just at Artemis and can confirm for you that you will see lots of your dream girls there.
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[QUOTE=Obama]Thank you very much! But m english isn't perfect and I don't understand this sentence "Those girls don't look at your age they are after your Euros. " Can you explain writing again more simply for me, maybe I'm not too smart to understand this. So can I expect a lot of girls, "tons of" my dream girls there? Or what, please tell me again[/QUOTE]
Are you absolutely sure your name is "Obama" and not "Bush?" I mean Bush has problems speaking English too...
Ortos
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[QUOTE=Ortos]Are you absolutely sure your name is "Obama" and not "Bush?" I mean Bush has problems speaking English too...
Ortos[/QUOTE]Yea Ortos,
Tell me better about young good looking, slim girls there. Maybe any names or hit before my going there.
Thanks in advance
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Just go there
Obama friend.
Just go there.
You'll find the all answers in a half hour and you'll never turn back.
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Visit during IFA
I visited Artemis twice during the IFA messe, some short reports:
Friday: I arrived pretty early, like 20. 00. The place was quite calm but already lots of pretty girls. By some reason, I often find myself just circling around and have diffuculties to make up my mind. But that's a part of the ritual, I guess.
After a while, I was approached by a Polish girl, Dagmara, a red-head with glasses that I found attrattive and I agreed on a trip to a room.
She was really a GFE, everything went on slowly and was very good.
Since this was my first session, the risk to finish in 4 minutes was real, so I asked to take it really slow, something she fulfilled ferfectly. (Others might take the opportunity to finish really quickly after taking it easy like 30 seconds.).
After the session, time for all different saunas and something to eat.
After some more circling around, I found a very pretty Brazilian, Name?
She was slim and had a very pretty smile, so I agreed on a session. This was a bit of mistake, in the room there was massive tries to upsell. When I denied, the session was quite rushed and also a bit rough. She was still pretty and a joy to feel, but it could have been a lot better.
After this I left about midnight, it was not very crowded considering the IFA messe, but no congestions for rooms and girls.
On Saturday, there was a defferent ballgame.
After a brief "study visit" to La Folie, where the short report is that the "girls" except one, should have to pay ME for sex. The exception was a very pretty girl, Jenny. But as she could speak only German, that outruled the possibility for warming up in the sofa. So, after a while I decided for Artemis, just one stop further away on the S-bahn.
Arrived at 23. 00. This time it was very crowded, white robes everywhere. Some (mostly (jetlagged? ) asians) were sleeping everywhere including the quite noisy bar area.
Again, some circling around to get the picture. Lots of girls also this day, some really good looking. For some strange reason (? ) I ended up in another session with Dagmara, same good experience as the day before. But, this time there was another twist, there was like 30-45 minutes waiting line to the rooms. But that didn't matter as she kept me "warm" all the time, I think I could have waited some more.
After this, I was really tired and left.
(It also showed I had a cold emerging, so I had to cancel a joint visit together with Visual, I hope you got a good time anyway! )
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Such a question. In Artemis girls do blowjob with condom or without?
I prefer without as do in Palace in Frankfurt. Please answer who knows!
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[QUOTE=Llegy]Such a question. In Artemis girls do blowjob with condom or without?
I prefer without as do in Palace in Frankfurt. Please answer who knows![/QUOTE]
In general the blowjobs are without condom however out of 4 sessions one of the girls did ask if I want one with a condom.
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Could you please tell more about pricing for sex in Artemis.
How can you evaluate Artemis in comparison with the Palace in Frankfurt?
I visited Palace once last year and was very satisfied. Now I'm thinking about visiting FKK club in Berlin. May be there are any better FKK clubs than Artemis in Berlin?
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[QUOTE=Llegy]Could you please tell more about pricing for sex in Artemis.
How can you evaluate Artemis in comparison with the Palace in Frankfurt?
I visited Palace once last year and was very satisfied. Now I'm thinking about visiting FKK club in Berlin. May be there are any better FKK clubs than Artemis in Berlin?[/QUOTE]
Information on pricing at this club is to be found under this thread.
Very satisfied at Palace? Then you will be satisfied anywhere.
No, there are no better FKK clubs than this one in Berlin.
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[QUOTE=Jackyo]No, there are no better FKK clubs than this one in Berlin.[/QUOTE]I would be willing to try another FKK club elsewhere especially the ones around the Dusseldorf area. But if I find my way back to Berlin, I think that I would rather check out places like Kamilla Dee and Liberty rather than go back to Artemis.
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FKK Artemis girls do blow job without condom
Theme: FKK Artemis girls do blow job without condom
[QUOTE=Llegy]Such a question. In Artemis girls do blowjob with condom or without?
I prefer without as do in Palace in Frankfurt. Please answer who knows![/QUOTE]
Hi Llegy,
I visited Artemis three times over a 4 day visit in August during the holiday season where a lot of the girls I was sent to find or was recommended were not to be found. In the end I tossed my notes and went hunting and fishing using my primal instincts going for what I like and know.
I had 11 sessions over my 3 visits and each session included BBBJ or blow job without condom as standard. I was not asked if I wanted a covered on and only had that at Palace where one girl insisted she blow me with condom as she claimed to have a core in her mouth and did not want to pass on germs. Fair enough, but I would like to have known before agreeing to going to the room.
Go fill your boots and report back here what you found to return something to this group what we helped you with.
Cheers,
Londonbasketcase
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3 more questions
Hello guys,
1. Who serves free drinks at bar areas - naked woman too?
2. About CIM - we have to pay extra 50 euros do they swalow as well or it's extra paid another 50 euros?
3. Do you meet any lady who agreed e.g oral sex and CIM for only 60 euros ? Is it possible to negotiate during the meeting in a room?
Thanks for all answers
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[QUOTE=Obama]Hello guys,
1. Who serves free drinks at bar areas - naked woman too?
2. About CIM - we have to pay extra 50 euros do they swalow as well or it's extra paid another 50 euros?
3. Do you meet any lady who agreed e.g oral sex and CIM for only 60 euros ? Is it possible to negotiate during the meeting in a room?
Thanks for all answers[/QUOTE]Obama,
1. there are female bartenders who serve the drinks - not naked though
2. CIM is 50 euros extra. Swallowing is not the norm in my experience. I've only had one girl at an FKK swallow and I was caught by surprise - but this did not cost extra. I've asked others providers and they all declined to swallow but i guess if you offer another 50 euro, some may take it. Not worth it for me though.
3. if you want CIM they will all charge you 50 euros
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Artemis or Van Kampen
Can anyone compare Artemis and Van Kampen?
It is quite hard to decide where to go?
Or do you say both!
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@ Obama
[QUOTE=Obama]Hello guys,
1. Who serves free drinks at bar areas - naked woman too?
2. About CIM - we have to pay extra 50 euros do they swalow as well or it's extra paid another 50 euros?
3. Do you meet any lady who agreed e.g oral sex and CIM for only 60 euros ? Is it possible to negotiate during the meeting in a room?
Thanks for all answers[/QUOTE]
@Obama,
1. There are fully dressed ladies (never seen men) serving drinks in the two bar areas of Artemis. IN saying that, in all the other sauna club and FKK clubs I have only seen women serving drinks. Only exceptions is at Villa Vertigo where I have seen one of the bar's staff by a man and the one PartyTreff that I have been to date.
2. I think you will find and if you follow many of the reports is that the girls do not swallow in every instance or not all. They wil take your load in her mouth for €50 but will discreetly spit it out. If you really want the girl to swallow it and know it then to ensure you do get this service please do discuss your requirements with first with your service provider.
I think in my cases where girls have swallowed it is because of inadvertance. I mean if you take anything in your mouth you can taste it and might swallow a bit - it is natural.
3. I have not come across many instances where you get a normal session plus CIM for €60 or even €50 in NRW and Hessen. I am sure that there are cases but these are rare in my opinion. You do get this all inclusive service in some smaller clubs like Bernds, Ewa's Club and odd girls at PartyTreffs. If you go to these clubs then you are more surer (note not certain) to get the full deal for a basic price.
Regards
Londonbasketcase
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[QUOTE=Oserk Xenn]Can anyone compare Artemis and Van Kampen?
It is quite hard to decide where to go?
Or do you say both![/QUOTE]Van Kampen is apparently not great with customers who do not speak German sometimes. But otherwise, I heard that it's a great place but it is not a FKK club like Artemis. Therefore, there is no entrance fee to pay at VK. If I was to return to Berlin, I would definitely check out Kamilla Dee and Mon Rouge which apparently will accommodate English speaking folks. I would return to Mona (see Berlin section for my review). Probably wouldn't go back to Artemis but that's just me.
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The Kissing Crunch
came away from artemis with sores last week. happily not the kind of sores you might possibly be expecting. rather the sort you get when you spend nearly twenty hours sitting on plastic stools and sofas over two days.
i’d started on the wednesday morning with some bad luck. i’d tried to slip in a couple of bordello visits before artemis got going. discovered that the two bulgarian twins gabi and christine at
[url]http://www.mona-kant74.de/galerie.html[/url]
who i’d heard would provide guaranteed early day duo fun were not going to be around until mid-afternoon despite my having made a reservation the day before. similar bad luck with a girl at celine69 (no longer on the website, can’t remember her name), and after zipping over to liberty
[url]http://www.libertyberlin.de/index_2.html[/url]
i had the much-vaunted cynthia, who was part of the parade i took, snatched away from me at the last second by another punter. i ended up trying steffi, on the dubious grounds that she at least had smiled at me, but she was indeed rather disappointing and expensive, and certainly not up to the standards of a good fkk.
day one artemis
so it was off to westkreuz and the cavernous entrance of the club shortly after midday. i was not expecting that much on the day. it was dessous-tag, which i couldn’t avoid unfortunately, and the line-up and numbers were accordingly modest. the following day, thursday, was by contrast fantastic, hopping. after i was finished around 00.30 a.m. i sat on the sofa having a last alkoholfreies and remember just marvelling at the stream of beauties that filed past me on their rounds. i was relaxed, spent, but in a perfect world could easily have notched up another twenty-five sessions from the talent available. i couldn’t tear myself away, had another beer and promptly missed my train.
unfortunately i was also to discover that there has been no change in the practice of a good number of providers at artemis of limiting the services they offer. but back to the first day, where i had just about the whole range of fkk experiences.
londonbasketcase had kindly gone to great lengths to provide me with information on the girls that he had collected over the past few weeks from various mongering sources and his own experience. i devotedly carried this sheet of info around in my gown pocket for two days, regularly squinting at it short-sightedly in the artemis gloom. thanks a lot, lbc. it was little fucking use. lol. most of the star providers i knew or his list recommended were simply not there. several of the girls confirmed that there has been a sharp turnover the past few weeks. anyone looking for celina would be disappointed, and lizzie, also former oase, was in such a foul mood that i passed.
first choice was
joy, lithuania, about 30
medium height
dark brown short hair
a/b breasts
athletic build, shapely legs
joy keeps herself in good trim, everything’s in the right place. she assured me that she kissed, and indeed did when we were in the room. a session with nothing to complain about and little to get excited about either. i faked the end to keep some stamina for later.
i subsequently investigated the poles, who unsurprisingly make up the largest contingent at artemis. many of them really are good lookers. two groups. the ones who approach you offer the full range of services, with an upselling vengeance. among these was bianca, a blonde bombshell with a gorgeous body, who just wouldn’t take “not yet” or “no” for an answer. she tried six times and i rejected six times. doesn’t it just get tedious? the ones who by contrast don’t approach you but you decide are great candidates on first viewing are equally if not more gorgeous, will enthusiastically confirm “oh yes, you can fuck me immediately, let’s go”, but the subsequent key question reveals the catch: she won’t do this, or won’t so that. special stumbling block was the kissing, as usual. doesn’t that just totally [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] you off?
having wasted far too much time on these girls i was myself approached by a beguiling romanian girl called christiana, who was curious to know why i was having such a fruitless time with the other girls. clearly an observant young lady. she laughed and stated that i would have no such problems with her unless i wanted anal. i was inclined to believe her. now the third session of the day is the important one. if that one goes well the day usually ends well; if it goes badly the hobby can be in serious danger. so i entrusted my good mood to
christiana, romania, about 25
medium height
dark brown straight long hair
b breasts
great slender body, lovely arse
christiana has an interesting, but not quite beautiful face with very clear smiling eyes. if you had told me she was peruvian-indian, i would have believed you. she was fine. she kissed. hooray. she kissed very well. celebrations. she was an extremely good blowjob practitioner. heart-swelling gratitude. good at sex. how can i get her into my suitcase? i extended to an hour and i can remember well the rhythm we had in 69, as she exactly followed my pace and knew exactly what she had to do. not a hand in sight, and often just light lip and tongue-brushing of little tosc’s tip was enough to keep him hot and firmly at attention. down the other end all was harmonious too, where she is beautifully proportioned with nice spongy labials. it was a damned good session.
there was quite a long pause before my next session. this was partly owing to my need to recover from christiana, partly because i assaulted the late-lunch buffet, but mainly because of these wretched poles. on four separate occasions i angled an approach to one i really fancied, and four times i had to abort on learning that kissing was out. the problem is that you can lose quite a lot of time interviewing them in vain, unless you want to start unsubtly with the “k” question.
what all this propositioning endeavour did allow me to do was experiment with the “nodding” technique, which jackyo and others have been discussing recently. the challenge is how far away can you be and still be able to induce a fair lady with the merest of gestures to break off from whatever she’s doing (and believe me, apart from the inevitable smoking, drinking and chatting, they find a whole variety pursuits, the most entertaining of which is of course scratching their tits) and rush, eager to serve, to your side. i’ve never really thought to develop a method here, but this was a perfect chance. i tried the nod; i tried the smile and nod; i tried the smile followed immediately by the raising of the eyebrows. (i thought about it, but modesty precluded use of the full-bloodied leer accompanied by licking with tongue, and at no point did i reveal anything under the towel). and all from different distances of course. well i was moderately successful, but discovered that the further away i was, the greater the chance that the ugly flabby weightlifter just alongside my intended target would be overjoyed at my interest, and heave her bulk over to my sofa instead. not easy, guys, to get out of that one elegantly. but i did register one triumph, a long distance nod-and-smile to a good-looking and very lively moldavian spinner at the other end of the long bar, although in fairness she did slightly hesitate half way over, either short-sighted or unsure of my intent, but an encouraging pat on the seat next to me fortified her and she was soon beaming her way into my presence. i paced it later, and it measured about 18 metres. how’s that? ok? it was the best i managed. anyway, it was an interesting beginning to a crazy session, with
isabella, moldavia, probably around 20
small, <40kgs
dark long hair
a/b breasts
very slender, great body if you like them very small
she had the talk, she had the walk. a bit wild, but engaging enough. decided to risk it, thinking regie. i was way off.
the problem was that she was really too good. she kissed, and well. she blew, and well. and she had this incredibly tight body, almost impossible to resist even without the great optics. and she wanted to finish me fast. i was in trouble right from the start. i tried all the tricks. went down to daty, so i could cool off, but she wasn’t up for this. took too long. in a hurry. on at least three occasions i withdrew little tosc from the theatre of operations, and each time she was after him again. i protested that i wanted to enjoy her, not just fill her up. all discussions were in vain. the funny thing was that i gradually became convinced that she really believed that this was a measure of her prowess (with the added advantage of course that the session would be over more quickly), but there was nothing truly cynical about her behaviour. as i say, she had a great technique. here i was after two climaxes already on the day in danger of coming after only five minutes. :-) :-) anyway, i gave up and aborted the session unfinished after a quarter of an hour, and sat up to have a real discussion with her. i tried to convince her that what we really want is not what she is giving, and that she could be a star if she could only think it through. she listened, but her comments showed that she really didn’t grasp it. ok, i announced it was shower time, but just asked her at the door what other customers thought. oh, fine, all the turks love her. i could have pissed on the floor.
my next choice was a failure. i’d been watching her all day, undecided, but when she approached me i decided to risk it. she looked fine, and claimed to kiss. and she really was italian, not romano-italian.
clara, italy, early twenties
about 1.65 tall
dark long hair
b breasts
slim body, great arse, everything inviting
if you want to check, she has rather a hooked nose, which with the slightly crinkly hair gives her a jewish air. and if you check, it should be in order to know to avoid her. what she did do well was kissing. so no kissing crunch, but definitely sub-prime performance. her bbbj was simply no good; she couldn’t get the technique right at all, despite a little tuition. and if she falls off the horse at the rodeo as often as she left little tosc behind on her ride in room 17, it would make a sensational video for youtube. in the end i couldn’t really be bothered and spent the rest of the time licking her off in daty. at least i could coordinate it all myself. and she has a fine body, it must be said. as in any profession, just occasionally you come across someone who is absolutely hopeless at his or her job. extraordinary.
one girl who’d been flirting with me for several hours finally corralled me on the sofa directly behind the bar. to be honest i am not sure whether i would have approached her myself. i find these very direct girls a little frightening sometimes :-) :-). it would have been a mistake.
miriam, east germany
over thirty at a guess
about 1.65 tall
medium-length henna-red dyed hair
a/b breasts
another great slim body
i moaned. about the non-kissers. about quick-finishers. about hopeless technicians. she listened dutifully. i wondered whether i was overdoing it, and she later admitted that she had wondered what exactly i was expecting. but neither of us need have worried. she invested the time on the couch, and was rewarded with a session.
miriam is a little domineering, and this was going to be my last session of the day, so i decided to let her take the reins. she was marvellous. started with a heavy-duty oily body-to-body massage with plenty of dry humping and kissing. swung herself round for a divine 69 session. she rode forwards, backwards, every which-way, with perfect control. spoons (lovely handfuls of breast), mish, doggie, all gracefully initiated. as the hour approached its end, she upped the tempo massively and i had a crunching finish in mish. it’s how to do it, a great professional with a smile and the right attitude.
day two artemis
there were many more girls and many more customers the next day, thursday. i arrived around 18.00, and sensed immediately a much more positive atmosphere.
my first encounter was a surprise. there on her barstool, bobbing characteristically to the music, was barbie, known to all the past year at world. i knew who she was, but had never had the pleasure. decided to interview her. she’s a sweet bubbling polish girl, who never has a problem establishing contact. i couldn’t refuse her a session when i established that she had just that minute arrived, knew nothing of the club, not even where the canteen was. so, i had a virgin before me, unfucked in berlin.
barbie, poland
21, i think
1.60 tall
shortish black hair
a/b breasts, naturally a little chunky around the waist
i think it was beffen who concluded that barbie had come a long way during her time at world. i cannot really confirm this, and can only conclude that she has beff’s irresistible superior technique to thank for her apparent progress. either that, or she must have been absolutely bloody hopeless before. :-) she was diligent and obliging, and always smiling of course, but there was little spark with me.
went for the optics next. tall graceful brazilian girl with a gorgeous body and long, long legs, called
luciana, brazil
24-25 years old
1.70 tall
very long smooth brown hair
a/b breasts, flawless skin
not the traditional brazilian with the bubble butt at all, this one is tall, lithe, more the european look except for the somewhat african face. i didn’t start very well. i was so busy admiring the view as i followed her up the spiral stairs, that i tripped on my sandals and fell up the stairs. toscana trying to retrieve his balance and looking foolish, one haughty brazilian looking back in amused disdain, and a couple of other girls laughing at me as they came down the stairs towards me. i finally made it to the room with no further damage. the session was perfectly ok club standard, but again no spark, no inclination on luciana’s part to really get into it. so i spent my half hour exploring her beautiful body with everything at my modest disposal before enjoying the heavy-duty doggie finish in the mirrors. a sight for weary eyes indeed.
it was going to have to be a good choice for third session, and i certainly took my time. there were so many good lookers to choose from. in the end i got involved in a long discussion on the sofa with a sweet hungarian blonde of the impish type, her lovely legs draped over mine just ready to be stroked over the fishnet stockings. she really attracted me. those of you who know eleni from bernd’s/samya will know the type of girl martina is, except that martina is a good bit more attractive.
martina, hungary
30 years
about 1.62 tall
page girl style false blonde, impish face
b breasts, absolutely immaculate body
despite excellent sessions with christiana and miriam, martina was even better. it was a fine finale. she’s one of these providers who loves her job, is serious about wanting to give good service and has the technique to match. i got her to remove the stockings and set eagerly about exploring this wonderful smooth-skinned body. throughout the session she kept returning for more and better kisses, when i would run my hands through her hair. almost romantic, tosc sometimes. and her bbbj is outstanding. she is one of the swirler/plunger sloppy wet operators, everything without hands, and she knows when to lower the tempo when the tension mounts. i again went for the hour, which went by in a flash. i couldn’t bear to live with her because she has this reedy, tinny voice which would drive me crackers, but she will make someone very happy when she’s saved up enough and quits.
all in all a very mixed bag this time at artemis, and i had to be damned patient at times, but when it comes good it’s as good as anywhere and well worth the effort to get there.
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Toscana does Berlin
Hey Man,
In a word, you're the master. Great read and report, as usual. Although it is heartbreaking to think of Lizzie in a bad mood. Have not seen her in years, but she was always a favorite of mine back in her Oase days.
I think that I fell for this girl Bianca's "charms" on my last visit to Artemis. I seem to recall it being just a ho-hum session. Pretty hot looking though.
Has Barbie really moved up to Berlin from World? If so, I can confirm that not too much was happening there in terms of talented sexual practices. Personally I think she saves all of her best moves for Beffen.
Best session I ever had there was with a Kino romp with a sexy Turkish gal named Ellie. Would not mind at all tappin' that one again.
Cheers,
Dedalus
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Bianca of Poland at Artemis
Bianca of Poland:
[QUOTE=Dedalus] I think that I fell for this girl Bianca's "charms" on my last visit to Artemis. I seem to recall it being just a ho-hum session. Pretty hot looking though. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Toscana] The ones who approach you offer the full range of services, with an upselling vengeance. Among these was Bianca, a blonde bombshell with a gorgeous body, who just wouldn’t take “not yet” or “no” for an answer. She tried six times and I rejected six times. Doesn’t it just get tedious? [/QUOTE]
For my Artemis trip where I visited three times over 4 days (yes one day actually was spent sight seeing - I do like culture as well), I went with Bianca twice - she was my first Artemis girl on my day 1 and also one day 2 as my start of day girl.
I agree with Dedalus and Toscana that Bianca is very pretty and it is hard to resist her blond, blue eyed, long limbed, curvey, beach babe tanned look (well for me it was). She is a hard worker in the sense that she works the room going from customer customer asking for session, as soon as she senses resistance she moves on down the line of customers and then repeats this technique again across just the same line up of customers if not takers wearing you down. I had to give it to her for her eagerness to pick up work from a girl who could get the work on her looks alone.
In the room she did the business but nothing that was amazingly memorable similar to Dedalus' experience. I just liked the visuals and this was why she was a good starter for each day's visit for 2 days. My third day at Artemuis she was not there having returned to Poland for a rest.
It was the image of this gorgeous page 3 model looking girl sucking you in the kino, then later on again in the zimmer as you watched the view looking down or in the mirror beside the bed. Then having covered sex with her in various positions that makes it memorable for me. A nice optifuck.
She did all the basics - kissing, DATY, BBBJ, BLS, covered full sex, massage and was a friendly girl.
She had a great sales technique of feeling you up under your robe, tickling your nipples, stroking your chest, lightly dancing finger tips down your back, and stroking the schwanz and tickling your balls in the main room enticing you for a session.
Thanks,
Londonbasketcase
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[QUOTE=Londonbasketcase]Bianca is a hard worker in the sense that she works the room going from customer customer asking for session, as soon as she senses resistance she moves on down the line of customers and then repeats this technique again across just the same line up of customers if not takers wearing you down. I had to give it to her for her eagerness to pick up work from a girl who could get the work on her looks alone.[/QUOTE]Of course we all know girls in any club, where approaching is permitted, who work the room tirelessly. Generally I admire them. Polish Vanessa at Oase (great in the room as well) and Natasha from Belarus at Artemis (less so) come to mind immediately. They also know how to take a friendly rejection gracefully. But some really overdo it, and Bianca is one of them. It was a comment on the service made by LBC on his "list" which fortified me in resisting this really great looking gal.
There is another Artemis girl from Hamburg called Jane who falls into the room worker category. She is very charming too. And sensational to look at. Perfectly straight blonde hair down to the butt, must be 1.80 tall, and everything slender except for the C breasts which looked all natural to me. I didn't go with her, but anyone who doesn't worry about the kissing could land well with her. Must look fantastic in those mirrors. Can't comment on the service of course.
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I just want to say excellent report Toscana. It is very readable (entertaining) as well as informative.
Thanks for your effort.
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Please advise
Dear Moderator , I have posted this on the Safe Sex forum as well. Can you please let this stay for a few days on both forums? Thanks.
Hi, I got laid in Artemis FKK in Berlin last Sunday. Had half an hour sessions with 3 different women. I had penetration with a condom with each of them +
Girl 1) some DFK, just a little licking from me (Miriam, East German girl)
Girl 2) just 10 sec of covered BJ (Nora, Bulgarian)
Girl 3) BBBJ without CIM, and some licking action from me. (Patty, Romanian)
After about 22 hrs of this action, i started feeling the slightest of burning sensations at the tip of the penis. And after another 24 hours, a kind of niggling feeling in symmetric regions on both sides of the pubic region - roughly near the joints. The feeling is very similar to what I experienced when I'd caught some urinary infection last year.
For certain reasons, I will find it very tough to consult a doctor for the next four days.
a) I am concerned I could have caught something nasty. But I hope that's not the case because I hardly did anything particularly unsafe
b) Even if it is something not serious, I cannot afford to develop a full blown infection or fever this weekend (am visiting family).
Please advise on both a) and b) and particulary if there are any antibiotics of other medicines I can take to get rid of my symptoms.
Full disclosure: This part of my immune system may not be particulary developed, because this was the first time I had sex (or sexual contact) of any kind.
I will be most grateful. Thanks.
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Yes, Toscana, thanks for the report. Funny and well written.
Actually, I've appreciated the sage reporting the from Dedalus, Toscana, London. , and Angus. All excellent. Whenever they report, I read.
I plan to be in Artemis Oct 10.14.
For legit reasons, I've been more of a lurker than a writer, but I've been around enough to be more seasoned now than years back. Been to Artemis before and Palace several times too.
I've learned that tis better to have the benefit of comradery than going solo, so if any senior member types with a philosophical and humorous bent will be in Artemis during the above time span, I'd be interested in a secret handshake in the food room and hanging during the down time/up time.
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My 2nd Artemis visit
Recently visiting Berlin for the 2nd time I re-visited Artemis. I realised that as a newbie the first time I probably did not get the full value of my visit, so going back again knowing what to expect was much better.
I only had 4 hours spare due to business meeting schedules so wasted no time with my first choice who sat with me (well actually on me) in the bar where we had a short discussion about her services. Her name was Ella from Russia and she was short brown haired, gorgeous pouting lips and a very lithe body. She was wearing fishnet stockings which were a real turn on.
In the room after having established in the bar that she didn't mind kissing, I actually found out that she loved it. She then moved into BBBJ and as I was in danger of finishing far too early we went back to kissing, DFK, and then DATY.
She really loved this and orgasmed in a BIG BIG way. She then gave me more of BJ and we finished doggy style. I would recommend Ella as a full 10.
After a rest in the sauna and pool area I then went to the kino to get re-aroused and met Martina. We went to one of the rooms behind the kino which was a bit of a turn on in its own right knowing that we could be heard in the back row of the kino. Although the sex was quite good, she was a little too keen on upselling and obviously wanted to rush things when I declined. However she did bring me to a (unusually for me) good end in such a short time.
I am back in Berlin again on 14th October so will definitely visit Artemis again and try to spend a longer time there. I am told that you can return within the 24 hour period without having to pay the entrance fee again so I will have to investigate that and return later in the evening after my meeting.
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[QUOTE=Iglia]Dear Moderator , I have posted this on the Safe Sex forum as well. Can you please let this stay for a few days on both forums? Thanks.
Hi, I got laid in Artemis FKK in Berlin last Sunday. Had half an hour sessions with 3 different women. I had penetration with a condom with each of them +
Girl 1) some DFK, just a little licking from me (Miriam, East German girl)
Girl 2) just 10 sec of covered BJ (Nora, Bulgarian)
Girl 3) BBBJ without CIM, and some licking action from me. (Patty, Romanian)
After about 22 hrs of this action, i started feeling the slightest of burning sensations at the tip of the penis. And after another 24 hours, a kind of niggling feeling in symmetric regions on both sides of the pubic region - roughly near the joints. The feeling is very similar to what I experienced when I'd caught some urinary infection last year.
For certain reasons, I will find it very tough to consult a doctor for the next four days.
a) I am concerned I could have caught something nasty. But I hope that's not the case because I hardly did anything particularly unsafe
b) Even if it is something not serious, I cannot afford to develop a full blown infection or fever this weekend (am visiting family).
Please advise on both a) and b) and particulary if there are any antibiotics of other medicines I can take to get rid of my symptoms.
Full disclosure: This part of my immune system may not be particulary developed, because this was the first time I had sex (or sexual contact) of any kind.
I will be most grateful. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Hey, I remember that the first time I had sex--and that too unprotected--I had more or less the same symptoms. I think that since you have never had sex your body and yu are alert to the smallest of changes. So you notice things that you prbly don't notice usually.
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Artemis 20&24.09.2008
Last week I was on a business trip to Berlin and I used all the information that I got from this post. So I would like to thank to all reporters and now it was my turn to give some information.
First of all, If you are in Berlin and looking for some fun with a high quality and If you choose something very hardly do not attempt to look for something anywhere else. You will surely face with frustruation. Mona, Van kampen, Nina, Liberty, La Folie, Go to Artemis, do not mind price, time etc. It is worth it. So thanks to my Turkish colleagues in Artemis who brought heaven on earth.
There are two points that I did not like; food is not so good (in fact you don't even need to eat), and showering with cocks around does not look so good after having perfect time with beauties upstairs.
I got 5 girls in 2 visits (once a duo at a time).
1. I got two Polish girls, do not remember names. In fact I did not know that they wee Polish but I think I got used to them after so many visits to Poland. When I choose a girl in such a place I suddenly realize that she is Polish. There is some magic attracting me to them. Experience with two girls was perfect, we had every possible thing that can be done. 10/10.
2.I got a Hungarian girl, was not as good as the previous experience. 7/10
Second day.
3.Another Polish girl. I chose her without knowing her nationality. Short brown hair, blue eyes, georgeous white body. 10+/10.
4.An Italian girl named Katia, black long hair,green eyes. Don't ask why I remember only her name she made me remember this and I think I will never forget. She sits with another Italian girl Rafaella (blond). Both very lovely funny girls.
As a result, all the girls are friendly, 20% looks good to my average. Those 5 above were in that %20 of course. All the five above were slim, average tall, nice body, very kind, friendly girls with natural, model look bodies.
Two things happened when we were there;
A discussion between two men (nothing important, bodyguards came suddenly)
An arabic guy did something bad to a girl (could not learn from the girls what happened) so all the girls in club refused to go with him. He was asking each girl for many many times but the answer was no. That was a shame and pity of him but when you ask the girls he deserved this attitude.
The girls have a right to choose so be a gentlemen when you are there!!
Next months I will be in Berlin a few more times and I will report here again.
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I'm back from my another business trip to Germany. This time I was in Berlin and of course couldn't miss an occasion to visit Artemis. It was on Thursday. I tried to rush my things up because I knew that there were some fairs taking place in Berlin Messe, so I wanted to get to the club as soon as possible.
I took a S-bahn train to Westkreuz. It's only one exit from the station, so there were no problems to find the right way. After getting to Halenseestraße, you have to go left and after about 200-300 meters you see the Artemis building on your left. I got there at about 4PM. Paid 70E, got my bathrobe, took a shower and entered the heaven.
I took a quick walk round main lounge, found it too smoked, with maybe 15 girls and the same number of guys. Went downstairs and found quieter place at the sofa near the bar. I'm still quite nervous when I'm visiting FKK, this was my second time after ColA. When I tried to calm down, I got approached by I couple of girls, who I turned down, partly because it was too early for me, and partly because they weren't top class.
After some time and a coffee I started to explore more closely what is on offer. And I must say that I was a bit disapointed because both the number of girls and quality was not satisfactory. It was a bit below ColA standard. Anyway, there were still some cuties worth a try. Unfortunataly most of them turned out to be Polish and I settled non-Polish day for myself. That was because I have them at home. Anyway, I had a lot of girls to talk with (almost all girls speak English anyway). They told me that later there will be more girls.
I found myself place in main lounge and sipping cola I observed what was going on around. Sequentially was approached by girls. One of them, Slovak (forgot her name), beautiful, long dark hair, quite tall, turned to be my first this evening. After a little conversation we went upstairs. The room was OK, but it was pity that there were only one mirror, which I like very much. Standard session (if I can say what is standard after 3 sessions at FKKs). DFK, BBBJ, cowgirl, missionary, doggy. Very nice girl, done everything I wanted, BJ a bit delicate, but it was a lot of fun to watch such a beautiful girl with my little in her mouth. I was satisfied and started to think that it is normal that girls at FKK give good services. Well, future will show.
So, I needed a rest. Went downstairs and utilised a pool and sofas. At 6PM they opened a dining room, so I went to eat something. Food was OK. Having in mind that I will stay at the club till closing, I thought that I can go outside and return to the club later. (I decided not to book a hotel, because next morning I was going home, so I saved some money and had more for the girls). So I did. Walked around the city and returned to Artemis around 10PM.
Well, it was much crowded, both with customer and service providers. Quality of them was also higher. I think that I saw many 9's and some 10's. I got happy! Also I saw 3 black girl, who I always hoped to meet. There were also 3 or 4 Asian girls, maybe 12 Polish girls, many Russians and probably many other nationalities.
My next choice was petite Brazilian girl, again forgot her name. Long curly hair, very slim and short, she had a tattoo on her left part of her back showing woman with a long neck and burning head. She said she got it when she was 16 and found it funny at that time. She got married with German man and started to work there when they divorced. She was very nice with me on a sofa, so we headed to the room. When we left we saw couples waiting for the rooms, so she told me that we can go downstairs, there were rooms next to the Kino. When we got there, we also saw couples waiting for their turn in the rooms. When we got to the kino, it also was occupied by 3 couples which were having blow jobs or normal intercourse in public. It was amazing! When one raw of seats got free, my girl told me to take it, so we did, but I told her that want to wait for a room. She was OK with that, but she started to kiss an caress me and giving me hand job. I had to stop her because she would have finish me there! Anyway, I had wonderful time waiting for the room and also when we finally got one. It was small, without the door, only a curtain. We could hear noises of love from other rooms. It's one wall was totally covered with a mirror, so I liked it a lot. My Brazilian turned out to be very passionate lover. I had some problem to cum, but she insisted to finished me, which we finally succeeded. After I finished inside her (in condom of course), she didn't want to let me out, and she acted as if it was pleasant for her to have me inside. So I got a suspicion that she will try to sell me an hour instead of half (The total time was about 45 min. Since she started to kiss me in Kino). But nothing like this happened! She was very nice to the end and I was happy to make my wallet lighter of 60E.
It was still young night and I had money left for another 2 sessions, but I got an idea to try to have some sleep downstairs. It turned out that some other fellas had the same idea but still one sofa was free. At that time, girl weren't frequent visitors there, and even if they were coming downstairs, they didn't approached guys who were obvious to want a rest.
I got asleep easily and woke up a bit later than I expected, at 3AM!
There were not so many guys and girls, but still a lot. Some girls were performing pole dancing. I found myself some comfy place and enjoyed the view. Although I still had my money for sessions, I didn't feel a need to go to a room, so I decided not to session any more, and have good memories of what I had before. Anyway, I noticed that multiple sessions make me forget the earlier ones quite soon, so I'm not sure that they are so good.
I went to the locker room around 4AM. On my way I met another Polish girl, very young, with nice body and a face of an angel (that was what I thought when I saw her) and I got very eager to ask her to go to the room with me. Unfortunately she was talking to a couple of guys and finally she left with one of them. I was disappointed, but also very happy to visit this club.
A few words of disappointments;)
I'm sorry that I didn't session with:
- any black girl,
- maybe 3 polish girls, who were total 10s,
- russian girl with very big breasts (up to now I only had little girls) and quite nice, slim figure for such breasts,
- and maybe some 12 other service providers;)
Now I try to find a business reason to go to Berlin again. Hope to find it soon!
Regards to all
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@ Michael Stone
Great newbie post, dude, however, if you don't take down names the information isn't very helpful to those of us planning trips there.
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[QUOTE=Jackyo]Great newbie post, dude, however, if you don't take down names the information isn't very helpful to those of us planning trips there.[/QUOTE]Thanx and yes, I will have to have a pen and piece of paper with me next time, my memory doesn't serve me good, although I'm still quite young.
Brazilian, however, is quite easy to spot by her tattoo.
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Can I bring my own condoms?
Hi,
I will be going to Artemis later this week. My first FKK ever.
I promise a detailed report.
Can I bring my own condoms? There is a thin one that I really love......a German one.
Let me know,
Cheers
Modertor: I apologise if this is a double psting. My screen went blank and I am not sure if the earlier post worked. Did not see it online.
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[QUOTE=Rogerpaul]Hi,
I will be going to Artemis later this week. My first FKK ever.
I promise a detailed report.
Can I bring my own condoms? There is a thin one that I really love......a German one.
Let me know,
Cheers
Modertor: I apologise if this is a double psting. My screen went blank and I am not sure if the earlier post worked. Did not see it online.[/QUOTE]Roger,
I've been bringing my own condoms and most of the girls will be OK with using them as long as its a brand they recognize. Durex seems to be the preferred brand when i bring multiple brands.
Some girls will not use customer provided condoms. Others may not do so for new customers.
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Cool mate
A very up to date report preferably with names would be very useful as in 4 weeks it s gonna be my turn for my 1st ever trip to Berlin and my first ever visit to an FKK. Planning to stay there most of the day with my friends and be with 3-4 girls approx. Would be nice if u could report in general if girls do kiss in their majority there as I like DFK in situations of the sort.
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[QUOTE=Rogerpaul]Hi,
I will be going to Artemis later this week. My first FKK ever.
I promise a detailed report.
Can I bring my own condoms? There is a thin one that I really love......a German one.
Let me know,
Cheers
Modertor: I apologise if this is a double psting. My screen went blank and I am not sure if the earlier post worked. Did not see it online.[/QUOTE]I am not sure if Artemis has a policy on self brought condoms but in my experience most ladies (not specific to Artemis where I have yet to go) will let you use a condom of choice.
The only time I was refused was at Freudenhaus where I was told that the house insisted they use the condom provided. I have also had ladies insist, when I use a condom I bring, that I then take the condom she was providing with me. I guess this was to make it not seem that she was providing bbfs.
I would also suggest that you give the condom fully wrapped to the girl to let her see that it is untampered with.
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Dfk
[QUOTE=Sunstar777]A very up to date report preferably with names would be very useful as in 4 weeks it s gonna be my turn for my 1st ever trip to Berlin and my first ever visit to an FKK. Planning to stay there most of the day with my friends and be with 3-4 girls approx. Would be nice if u could report in general if girls do kiss in their majority there as I like DFK in situations of the sort.[/QUOTE]I will be in Artemis in about 10 days, most of you like DFK (me too) but do you think that it"s very clean to kiss a girl if you can imagine that maybe, 1 or 2 hours before she has sucked many and many dicks and she is OK for OWO and CIM. For me I prefer closed my mouth.
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Well...
Thinkin about it its true mate, however I feel kissing adds an extra level to the experience. Well, hope the girls brush their teeth after each round. Enjoy your stay in Berlin mon ami.
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Late September in Artemis
As I recently went to Berlin I couldn’t avoid to test the Artemis autumn collection and give a report to my fellows.
Being a analytic brain (related to my brain, I wonder whether I should use the present or the past), I will divide the discussion between general and specific, and more interesting, impressions.
Well, first of all, let’s speak of the overall impression about girls. They are always divided in two categories: sharks girls (aka great workers, patrolling girls, "hey boy, want to have good sex with me, btw what’s your name? ") and "polite" girls (assuming that polite means they always smoke and drink at the lounge preferring a milder approach lasting no more than two minutes). Everyone has fallen sometimes in the net of the sharks and rarely remembers it with satisfaction. BTW I noticed a less number of sharks (natural selections, orders of the boss? ).
The worst hour to hook up is 6, 00 p. M. At that hour girls dramatically disappear to feed their stomach as they’d never eaten before. Artemis remains empty. Don’t worry: later these well feeded girls seem to have a better attitude in emptyng our wallets.
I had a two days session with 5 girls:
FIRST DAY
After the usual recognition I choose Demi . She was sitting at the lounge and I smiled to her from a sofa. Few words and then upstairs
Demi
1,70, 23-25 y.o. Romanian from Bucarest
Long black straight hairs
Enhanced C boobs. Great slim body.
Giving an overall judgement on her is very difficult.
An average BBJ. She is in the category “don’t touch my hair, don’t touch my neck, don’t change my rhythm”, but she also performs an acceptable deep throat attitude, which increases the rate. She had the very annoying habit to frequently glance her positions at the mirror, pausing her jobs for a while, as she was a porno actress.
While on mish no DFK, no long kiss on her body allowed. But while on doggy, an outstanding sensation for mounting such an stunning beauty, enhanced by the very deep penetration she allowed me keeping her arse in a perfect angle.
Rates:
Body 9,5/10
Face 8/10
GFE 5/10
Repeat: yes if visual effects are important
Leaving out the sauna, the swimming pool time and the acceptable dinner (we are not looking for a “relais&chateaux” experience), my next choice was Martina. I had a session with her in the past and I recalled her GFE attitude. I needed it after Demi.
Toscana perfectly described her
Martina, Hungary
"30 y.o.
About 1.62 tall
Page girl style false blonde, impish face
B breasts, absolutely immaculate body"
Her very very very best picture: [url]http://www.fkk-artemis.de/en/girls.php[/url]
IMHO good GFE experience, before, during and after the session. She is a real serious provider, taking a professional care of the client satisfaction. A sufficient to acceptable BBJ. Good fucking, but in both mish and doggy position she didn’t allowed a very deep penetration. While on mish she kept narrowed legs, while on doggy she had a lowered arse.
Her oil massage after sex is an add on never reported before. Very relaxing indeed.
Rates:
Body 7/10
Face 6,5/10
GFE 8/10
Repeat: yes if you feel alone.
After the proper resting time, before quitting, my last choice was Mimi
Mimi,
1,60, 27–30 y.o., Thai from Singapore
Brown hairs. Typical Asiatic body and face, short legs.
She was nice and intriguing. She also smiled a lot, with the typical oriental hysteric tone. And then she performed a fantastic BBJ. She sucked, licked, kissed, tongued and bited whatever she found between my pubes and my anus. Cumming in her mouth was mandatory. An extremely good choice to invest my 110 E
Rates:
Body: 7/10
Face: 6.5/10
GFE 7/10
Repeat: whenever a good BBJ is requested.
Second day will follow as soon as possible.
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[QUOTE=Sunstar777]Thinkin about it its true mate, however I feel kissing adds an extra level to the experience. Well, hope the girls brush their teeth after each round. Enjoy your stay in Berlin mon ami.[/QUOTE]
No, I don't mean Peanut Butter.
If they don't brush between BJs, they end up with PB or Penis Breath.
You can smell the previous customers dick in her breath.
An ex-girlfriend of mine always used this expression after blowing my dick.
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Late September in Artemis N.2
SECOND DAY
My second day in Artemis began after a very tiring working day. But I accept it as a rule: we earn money with work and we waste money with girls.
In this second day I had the opportunity to evaluate the overall population of girls, as it was a less crowded day. I realised the great turnover that took place from my last visit last spring. More than 90% of the girls were new. Percentage: 20% stunning girls, 70% on average, 10% nearly sufficient. Let’s speak of shaved pussy: nearly 100% shaved. Blond and dark girls were equally represented. Percentage of silicon enhanced boobs strongly increased ( our banknotes quietly fly from our pocket to the girls safes, than later from their pockets to the plastic surgeon. That’s capitalistic economy, dudes ).
As I arrived I was kindly approached by Clara, an Italo-Romanian girl. I told her honestly I wanted to relax before having sex, so she couln’t waste her time. Surprisingly, no matter how, she chatted with me kindly for ten minutes more before quitting.
Obviously, after a drink and a sauna, I reached her on the lounge putting my hand on her arse and telling her I was ready. Again, surprisingly, she led me to a sofa where we chatted, had a drink and a sigarette very softly. I was obliged to ask her frankly to go upstair.
Clara
Perfectly described by Toscana, which I strongly recommend for his detailed and true reports.
“Clara, Italy, early twenties
About 1.65 tall
Dark long hair
B breasts
Slim body, great arse, everything inviting
If you want to check, she has rather a hooked nose, which with the slightly crinkly hair gives her a Jewish air”
I also agree with Toscana for her great DFK attitudes. Great kisses. Sufficient to good BBJ.
But I must disagree for the rest.
I was allowed to deep fingering her pussy and she definetly liked it.
While on mish she did her job honesly, moaning in the right way. But on doggy she was stellar.
I took my time to reach my orgasm and while approaching it she began to pace her moanings and, mostly, her pussy contractions on my movements. She really sucked my cock with her pussy. The result was a incredibly long and deep orgasm. Raising myself later from the bed I felt my legs nearly trembling. One of the greatest experience with providers ever had (related to doggy).
Rates.
Body 8/10 ( could be twin with Debbie, but not so stunning)
Face 7/10
GFE 8/10
Repeat: yes
After such an experience I longly took care of me: an extra-long sauna, the swimming pool, than again the 90° sauna, than rested in the downstairs longe. Later I dined.
While relaxing on the main lounge after dinner I was twice approached by Bianca, a well known provider in Artemis. I refused her.
In that period I was hunting a very stunning girl, 1,70, dark blond long hairs, smooth but curled at the bottom, fishnet stockings, tanned athletic body. Sadly I had no session with her as when I was still recovering she was free but when ready she was working. My call to the philosophy of this forum which is sharing experience: this time I ask you related informations, if any, as I’m planning another visit in this late October and I’m looking forward fucking her.
Aroused but doubtful, I was ready to do my mistake: while on the downstair kino I allowed to be approached by Jane.
As I told you before, Toscana is a very trustworthy collegue, so I report his description, which I totally agree:
Jane
“There is another Artemis girl from Hamburg called Jane who falls into the room worker category. She is very charming too. And sensational to look at. Perfectly straight blonde hair down to the butt, must be 1.80 tall, and everything slender except for the C breasts which looked all natural to me. I didn't go with her, but anyone who doesn't worry about the kissing could land well with her. Must look fantastic in those mirrors. Can't comment on the service of course”.
In the room downstairs, protected by the curtain, she did her best to earn the money, but sucking my cock was a failure. She was really stunning but cold. A freezen stockfish gives you more. While working on my dick (she is another girl: ”don’t touch my neck, don’t touch my hairs, I pace the rhythm”) she even told me she couln’t go deeper due to my hairs (…!). Probably all the men from Hamburg have shaved pubes. I couln’t be aroused totally in such a situation, although in the mirrors was superlative. While approaching the time to quit, I even perceived her subtle disappointment as she couln’t earn 110E. Opinions may vary: IMHO she performed a mechanical and cold BBJ, could even say awful. Her opinion is probably different.
Rates:
Body 9,5/10
Face 9/10 ( a teen face over an outstanding body)
GFE 5/10 ( her deepest thought was: “oh, don’t worry, it happens”)
Repeat: yes if you are filled up with stamina and you don’t care of anything else.
Midnight was in few minutes and the day after was another hard working day. As the girl I was dreaming up had just been approached I got bored and decided to give up and reached the hotel with the usual Turkish taxi.
To the next
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Who's going tomorrow (friday)?
Friday is a holiday in Germany so will head to Artemis - I normally go on Saturdays. Anyone else heading there? Would like to meet up with with some ISG brothers.
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LA Folie or Artemas
-I arrived at La Folie at 2:00am. It had been about two years since my last visit. Did the locker room change and got undressed. The towels they provided this time were a bit bigger than my last visit.
Feeling very comfortable I looked around. The place was empty and the selection of girls were slim but all you need is one. The pole dancer looked like Bridget Bardot. She was 24 married to a 51 year old man. I smiled and she approached me and took me to the room overlooking the stairs. The room had a one way mirror overlooking the stairs( I hope) She was amazing, blond, wet and smelled like hot sex . The sucked, wanted to be sucked , mounted and wrapper her legs around me like an real girl fiend.
If any one can tell me her name ,thanks. I can still remember the smell of sex and I would like to match the name to the experience
I had spent from 4-6 that afternoon and the night before at Artimas. Although I enjoyed my time at Artimas the 2 hours spent at La Folie with the Blond pole dance was the best sex I had in Berlin.
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How is Artemis on Sundays?
Howdy,
I plan to get back to Artemis in about a week from now. I've been to Artemis a few times before and it's one of my favorite FKKs. However, I've never been there on a Sunday before. I'm sure it's more mellow than on Fridays & Saturdays, but is there still a good selection of honeys to choose from?
Just wondering, but I'll be there none-the-less.
DSK
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[QUOTE=Visual]-I arrived at La Folie at 2:00am. It had been about two years since my last visit. Did the locker room change and got undressed. The towels they provided this time were a bit bigger than my last visit.
Feeling very comfortable I looked around. The place was empty and the selection of girls were slim but all you need is one. The pole dancer looked like Bridget Bardot. She was 24 married to a 51 year old man. I smiled and she approached me and took me to the room overlooking the stairs. The room had a one way mirror overlooking the stairs( I hope) She was amazing, blond, wet and smelled like hot sex . The sucked, wanted to be sucked , mounted and wrapper her legs around me like an real girl fiend.
If any one can tell me her name ,thanks. I can still remember the smell of sex and I would like to match the name to the experience
I had spent from 4-6 that afternoon and the night before at Artimas. Although I enjoyed my time at Artimas the 2 hours spent at La Folie with the Blond pole dance was the best sex I had in Berlin.[/QUOTE]
When I used to go to La Folie, years ago, there were some of the prettiest girls I have ever seen. However, the seating always made it difficult to talk to the girls. Plus, my limited German did not help. Now that I look back upon the early days of the clubs (including Atlantis) I realize how small they are when you compare them to the clubs today. Still, I have very romantic feeling about those earlier times.
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[QUOTE=Devilspinkick]Howdy,
However, I've never been there on a Sunday before. I'm sure it's more mellow than on Fridays & Saturdays, but is there still a good selection of honeys to choose from?
Just wondering, but I'll be there none-the-less.
DSK[/QUOTE]
You probably should not worry too much unless you're really picky for any reason. Germans fuck anytime ;-) I think this tendency of girls picking Sunday for their day off is more noticable far more south in Europe.
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I appreciate the input. I am (IMO) quite picky, but I've always had good luck at Artemis in past visits. I agree that horny Germans don't get hung up on the whole ''Sunday'' thing the way they do in the Mediterranean. I'm in Barcelona at the moment. Can't wait to get to Berlin. There are some hot mommas here in Spain. Too bad they don't have FKK type of establishments here.
May post a review of my two upcomming trips to Artemis (ie. , Sunday and Tuesday I reckon).
DSK
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[QUOTE=Devilspinkick] Too bad they don't have FKK type of establishments here.DSK[/QUOTE]
Isn't all the clubs outside Barcelona (and many other Spanish cities for that matter) more or less the same as German FKK's?
Forget about "method of payment" and other details, but fundamentally it's all about the same i.e. good selection of high quality pussy at low cost.
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Ugga Bugga!
I have to say that I'm yet to find anything that resembles an FKK in Spain, and I've been to quite a few cities here (Madrid, Malaga, Seville, etc.). Sure they have ''casas'' and plenty of nightclubs, but not wonderful establishments like FKKs were the ladies are walking around butt naked. If anyone knows of such a place in BCN then let me know ASAP because this is my last night in BCN.
It's also been my experience that clubs in BCN like to gouge you with overpriced drinks (I hate that). In German FKKs the drinks are either free or cost very little. Of course in most FKKs the drinks are non-alcoholic.
The casas are boring places were you just walk in, fuck, and walk out. A one hour affair at the max. At the FKKs I can spend an entire evening hanging out. And I usually do.
I also hate that most casas in Spain are difficult to find even if your Spanish is good (not me). You have to find the address and then figure out what number to buzz. It's a pain in the arse. I like how the FKKs have big signs lit-up proclaiming proudly ''Horny guys! The *****s are in here! ''
Just my take on it. None the less, I've had a good time in Spain mostly doing touristy stuff. The weather has been good.
Think I might visit Riviera tonight (thanks for the map guys). I'll arrive in Berlin tomorrow.
DSK
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Ok got you. Think these are details of academic nature though. Just imagine how Germay and Spain play in a complete different leauge compared to the rest of at least western Europe. What I'm really after, it's a pity complaining when you're in heaven anyway.
BTW I'm talking chica's and not football!
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Night one
back at artemis after not visiting since december 07. then, was blown away by the myriad beauties from poland, hungary, czech, baltics, etc.
last night was first time back. i noticed a drop-off in the looks department from previous visits, but still managed to have a good time, albeit, this is the first time i have been at an fkk where the number of guys in silly white robes, doubled or even tripled the gals. a sea of round white is not a good sign.
i am admittedly picky, so i may be unfair, but there were only maybe 6 gals i saw last night who i would have wanted to be with. add in personality, or the requisite positive demeanor and it was probably 4.
here’s who i saw. samira, from slovakia and jana from germany.
first, samira. positives: beautiful, tall, dark, dark hair, non-rushed, sat with me without pushing for a room for 20 minutes, i asked her to the room, otherwise, she might have sat and cuddled for many more minutes. very nice relaxing cuddling. negatives: i do not speak much german and no slovakian. positives: she tried to communicate and kept trying. a good sign and worth a mile in the cross cultural communication department. nice smile and laughs at herself. i gave her a back rub in the room, which i think she appreciated and helped break the ice, but the physical aspect was missing some heat and it was not roman fireworks. a sweet girl to be sure, but not sure i would repeat. we’ll see, but she was genuine and sweet. i then recovered by spending some time in the sauna and went back to the field.
i waited about an hour, and as each minute ticked, i wondered if artemis was losing its luster, no pun intended. i changed location several times. there was a brunette looker dancing near and on the pole stage with a bleach blonde friend who was a real beauty, pierced nose and above her lip far to the side, but i never saw her go with a guy the 4 hours i was there. i don’t know who she is, but i did not want to approach her as she seemed to be like the hottest chic in high school who only went after the guys who were dicks. anyone know who she is?
i moved again, circling like a plane in a holding pattern, and then spotted a gal i had not seen all night. she looked like my type. lithe, demure, yet confident, sitting on the round couch without the curtains adjacent the pole stage in the room nearest the food room. i was still too far away to be absolutely certain at what i saw, but i briefly glanced at her and bright blue eyes peered outward through strawberry blonde hair. i looked down as my glance shifted without fixating in a rude, lurid way and i noticed that she was fit, all natural, with nary an ounce of body fat.
i said what the heck, there is no one else here i am interested tonight. and just went up to her and sat down, introducing myself. she was inviting, and as i sat down and looked in her eyes, i noticed, whoah, she is a lot hotter up close. she told me her name was jana, and that she was from germany. i have heard mixed reviews of the german gals working the clubs, i. e. some are cold, whereas some are very professional and fun. i tried to size her up. she was very natural, easy going and seductive. inviting, by letting her hair or breast rub against me but nothing obnoxious. the more i spent time with her, the more i realized that in my book, she was very hot in the looks department and she was a cool person. so up we went, and as she stood up, she was a lot taller than i expected. and she held my hand and as we walked the gauntlet of saturday night white.
without going into graphic detail, this woman was a sexual dynamo, long wet french kisses, one of the best i have ever had. vocal, erotic, took initiative, talked to me, moaned at all the right times. she was wet inside without any assistance. whoah. what a woman. restored my hope in the place. she doesn’t work every day, and i don’t know how selective she is, but she’s a real keeper & deserves as all the gals do, to be treated well and with respect. she rocked my world, one of the best sexual experiences of my life.
so here’s my data:
samira, slovakian
tall, fit, but big boned,
face: 8.5
body: 8
performance: 6.5
attitude: 8.5 – 9
jana
tall, super fit, lithe….runway potential except for a missing tooth
face: 9.5
body: 9.5
performance: 10
attitude: 10
went back to artemis tonight. plan to go back monday or tuesday this week. report later.
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Sunday Artemis Trip
Would have posted sooner, but I've been flying around a lot. Just arrived back in the San Francisco Bay last night.
After spending a few days in Spain I finally arrived back in Berlin. And my first order of business after checking into the hotel was to head straight to Artemis. I got there around 6PM this past Sunday. The lady at the front desk wasn't as friendly as usual, but what can you say? I spied some cute blondes as I made my way to the locker room were a couple of black American dudes were being loud and obnoxious. Referring to the ladies as "bitches". Very crass.
Got changed and decided to do a walk of the place. For a Sunday there were quite a few people. I would say the average looks of the women were about a 6. 5. The ratio of guys to gals was about 1:1, so the handful of really hot chicks got snatched up very quickly. I'm rather picky and was just taking in the scene while turing away the average gals that came up to me.
This one lady name "Dominica" approached me and though not hot. She was easy on the eyes. Short Polish gal with short blonde hair. Small tits. Little butt. She turned out to be not so good in the room. When (after only 15 mins) she's demanding that I hurry up and come. I call it quits and cut my losses. Hey. It's just part of the game.
I pumped some iron in their little weight room to get my muscles worked up and then splashed around in the pool. While heading back up the stairs to the main bar area, a pretty Romanian gal named "Estelle" blocked my path and asked me if I wanted to go to a room with her. She was medium height with long black hair. Nice boobs & butt. I decided to take her up on the offer and she turned out to be pretty good. The only caveat is that she tried hard to get me extend to an hour. I only do that if the lady is GREAT. She was good. But not great. Gave her a little extra for a tip.
By this time it was past 11PM and I felt that I still had some juice left in me so after relaxing for a while I made my way back to the main bar. It was quite festive with still quite a few people and a gal swinging on the pole.
Anyway. There was a Polish lady who had been turning heads all night. She approached me earlier but I said "maybe later". It was now around midnight and when she came up to me again I just couldn't say no. Her name was Katia (sp? ) and she was tall with straight, light brown hair. Magnificent pair of bolt-ons. Nice butt. Overall a hot bod. She was good in the sack. Very energetic. Best of the three by far. Wish I had gone with her earlier. My experiences got increasingly better with each lady. Overall a pretty good night.
By this time it was past 1AM and I needed to get some rest (planned to do some touristy stuff the next day). There was a blond from Russia and and dark-skinned gal from Lithuanian whom I had turned down. In hindsight; both seemed like they would have been good and I wish I had tried them out. That's life. No? Maybe next time.
I also saw a couple of Brasileiras at the establishment. Was interested in trying one of them out when I returned the following Tuesday.
DSK
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Tuesday Artemis
I got up in the morning to visit the local Beate Uhse store and fill my belly at a Thai restaurant near the Zoologisher Garten. Then hopped on the S-9 to Westkreuz.
Walked through the doors of Artemis around 1PM. At that time there were far more women then men (I like those odds) and I immediately saw some different faces. In fact as I was changing clothes a very pretty Asian lady walked into the locker area, smiled and said "Hi! " (to me). Didn't see her there last Sunday. I replied in kind and said that maybe I'd see her later. After changing I made my rounds of the place. The place was low-key, but there was enough cuties to look at to keep me interested.
In the main bar I saw the Asian chick lounging on one of the couches. I took a few sips of apple cola and went over to talk to her. She said her name was Gunya and she was from Bangkok. She had a petite, toned body. Cute little butt. She said she only worked at Artemis once a week to have some extra spending money. We agreed to go upstairs and I must say she was quite the dynamo. She really got into the sex and at one point she reached orgasm while bouncing on top of me. She said something in German which I think was "My god. I've come on your banana! "
After having fun with Gunya. I got cleaned up and relaxed around the pool area to recharge. Around 3PM I made my way back to the main bar.
Another new face caught my eye and after some eye contact I approached a lady who called herself "Channelle". She had an average face at best but a slim body with nice fake boobs and cool tats. Long, curly brown hair. Pretty ass. She was a Berliner! Communication was a bit of a problem because she spoke only German and I don't speak it so well. Regardless, we agreed to head to a room and speak the universal language. She turned out to be very passionate as well with a lot of kissing and such. She climaxed at least once for sure. Two GFE-type experiences. At an FKK? This day was going well.
I spent 40 minutes lifting weights in the fitness studio to get the blood good and pumping; afterwards got cleaned up and made my rounds.
It was now around 6:30PM & it was getting a bit livelier. More ladies had arrived. Some I'd seen on Sunday and some I hadn't. There was a group of 4 rather attractive blonds hanging out on a couch (yes, in the main bar again). One that really caught my eye was a tall, thin, blond (not likely natural). She turned towards me a couple of times, but I was just scanning the room.
I eventually plopped down on a couch and was just chilling out, not paying particular attention to anyone. When out of no where I feel the soft body of a female pressed up against my head and a voice says "How are you doing? ". I look back and it's the thin blond gal stretched out on top of the couch and looking down at me. From afar she was attractive. Up close she was downright gorgeous. Very pretty face, baby blue eyes, and the kind of body I like (thin but shapely). She had some very prominent tattoos. I must say I find a few tats on a lady to be a turn on, don't know why.
Her name was "Roxanne" and she said she was a Russian/Greek mix. She said that her friends call her Paris because of her resemblance to Paris Hilton. In reality her skin is much darker and IMO she has a better body than Ms. Hilton. She also made it very clear that she loved black men (which I happen to be). She initiated kissing on the couch. Well I wasn't about to pass up this beauty. So of course we headed to a room.
We talked quite a bit and apparently she works the entire German FKK circuit. She rotates through Oase, Palace, World, Artemis, and others on a regular basis. She's also done work in Amsterdam & Japan on occasion. She claimed to not speak much English; truthfully her English is better than most Americans.
Whether she really likes black guys or not, all I know is that she started off with passionate french kissing and it only got better from there. The sex was hot and heavy and I admit I lost track of time. It was definitely more than the allotted 30 mins. When we were both spent, we chatted for a few minutes and she asked me to marry her a few times. Of course I didn't take that seriously and the fact is I'm not a "one woman" type of guy. Told her as much. If I was a guy of weaker constitution I would have considered it based on her looks alone. She asked if she could take a nude photo of me to add to her collection/data base. I figured why not? Wouldn't be the first time. Paid her €120 because the time was certainly closer to an hour.
After all the action I got cleaned up and grabbed a bite to eat at the on site restaurant. By now it was approaching 9PM and though I would have liked to go one more round, I needed to get packed up and catch and early morning flight to Moscow. I'll be sure to give myself more time next trip.
Three great experiences in a row, what a day! Can't wait to return to this wonderful city and visit Artemis again. Need to check out some other nightlife options as well. However, I won't come back to Germany until next spring at the earliest. In the meantime, I'll have to settle for locales such as Brazil & the Philippines. How will I ever manage?
DSK
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Hi Dudes,
If you'll appologize, I'll skip the usual stuff around the facilities as to be read elsewhere on this thread. But sure it's a nice place, and I arrived around nine on a Sunday.
Plenty to choose from as usual, but I was badly planned for what to focus on in this event. I usually decide in advance for skinny/fat, tall/short blonde/black, bimbo/latin or whatever my stereoids tell for the day. (plus tattoos and piercing goes well in all shapes/forms)
Personally I think it's a big shame not more of you guys takes the advantge of the opportunity to "half" public sex. Let's go that not everyone get the same kick out of this as me, but every time I'm into it, there's plenty of spectators (even sp's maybe thinking there's easy bite around). So this MUST be something around shyness or whatever kind'a odd in a place like that.
When approached in front of the main bar (where I usually fancy sitting) (and obviously if they gone through my chemistry filter) I'll normally offer the "buy" if they'll service at the spot. Till this day, none of them has accepted so I usually end up in the Kino which is ok as well.
Last Sunday we where three couples shaggi'n in the upper Kino at the same time, and then there was as narrow in the doorway as in the bank buying Icelandic currencies.
(sorry for typoooos, this latency kills me)
Tall Russian, long black hair, huge ass and big tits, very friendly, surprisingly firm and very encouraging.........go and buy, as my US stockbroker keeps telling these days.
Short Slovakian, very pretty with looooooong high heel boots ketp on, surprisingly sloppy (btw, I find it so easy to reveal when babes don't do their excercises :-), however this time I found it pretty sexy, so recommended as well.
C U without robe next time?
wbr
U
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Artemis Saturday
Hi everyone,
As promised, my report.
The directions given on this site to Artemis
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are exact. Just an additional point for those coming by train from other parts of Germany. Get down at Berlin Hautbanhof, and not at Postdamer Platz. From the Hautbanhof you can get a direct S7 to Westkeurz.
Let me address a few issues that have been raised here from time to time.
A. Door policy: I am a Canadian of south Asian origin,but had no problem getting in, I also can pass of as Middle Eastern, southern spanish, or greek, but the receptionist was really friendly. I was well dressed, in a felt jacket, jeans, red turtle neck sweater, coat, and black shoes. I think that this helps. I saw East Asians, Indians, Africans, and Turks. You can leave the club and come back if you want to. They have an offer of 700 euros for 12 visits, but all have to be taken within an year.
B.For newbies, dont make the mistake of going straight to the shower. The towels are on the left side of the enterance to the shower on rows...when you hang up your robes before going into the shower also make sure that you know which robe is yours, since it is easy to mix them up, and keep the bathrobe belt secure as it falls down. this might seem a bit silly but if you are absent minded as I am you can both lose your belt, and inadvertently take somebody elses robe or towel.
C. The best thing about this website is the list of sharks.Bianca from Poland, Jena from Hamburg, and a tall Brazilian of African origin, all known sharks (Thank you ISG) approached me but I politely said that I was relaxing. Thank you fellow ISG members!
D. I found that it was easy to be approached in the kino. It was my first time, so I was a bit nervous of approaching on my own at the bar. However, while sitting at the kino I got several offers. I politely refused them, just saying that I wanted to relax for some time, and it was fine. I finally went with Dagmar the red head with glasses from Poland. Great session!
E. My second encounter was with Olga from Russia. She is young and pretty. Black/brown curly hair, wide blue eyes, small kissable mouth, sharp nose, looks girlish. Well a caveat is in order. She is friendly and all that, but is too finicky about fingering. So no wet digits (though she allows DATY! ironic, eh?). Worse she wont let you touch your cock with your fingers even if you have a condom on. That made it difficult since it has to be completely hands off, and she keeps a sharp eye out to see if you touch your cock at anytime. Moreover, even if you are doing DATY and using your hands to stimulate little tosca to rise, she does not allow that. So only those of you who can maintain a strong erection without ever touching it can have fun with her. No DFK.
I plan to go back in January and hope I will have a lot more fun. Though the girls were friendly and there was no pressure, it being my first time ever at an FKK, I did not have good a session as expected since I was nervous. So a return is in order.
Thanks for everything ISG!
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visit in Artemis
Hello,
First: Excuse my English.
Monday October 13 first visit with a friend arrival 8 pm not a lot of people ratio men/women 1/1 first important if you want to fuck quickly sit down in the little beds with curtains which are all around the smoking bar.
I do that and 2 minutes after a beautiful Bulgarian Girl call Marisa came to talk me, not for a long time. I went with her in room, very nice girl look 8/10 service 7/10 gfe 7/10.
Second round I have met a slovakian girl Leila listen to me she is very very GFE very nice and in bed really good I recommand her very strongly but hurry up in 2 or 3 weeks she will be back in Bratislava if someone will see her please just say her "you a have a big kisse from Casanova in France) I hope she will remember me Back in Hotel at Midnight.
Tuesday October14
Back in Artemis with 2 friends.
I just arrive (8 pm)and then just in front of me Leila my Slovakian girl she kisses me and then I recommand her to my friend He went with her and was also very happy This Tuesday very good for man ratio 1 man 3 girls.
I saw a beautiful blond girl Alina from Ukrainia came with her in bedroom look 10/10 service 6/10 gfe 7/10 you can go with her if you want no paradise just very good Second round I think you can imagine me and Leila again always the same happiness but I think that her first qualiy is very GFE.
Other girls from my friends: Carla Italian Girl like a volcan CIM but little problem she did'nt say to my friend that it is an extras (50 euros) she is very nice, other girl Victoria Bulgarian Girl, my friend told me that she is very perfect and recommand her very strongly.
Sorry again for my English Have a nice time in Artemis and kiss Leila for me.
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[QUOTE=Rogerpaul] Well a caveat is in order. She is friendly and all that, but is too finicky about fingering. So no wet digits (though she allows DATY! ironic, eh?). Worse she wont let you touch your cock with your fingers even if you have a condom on. That made it difficult since it has to be completely hands off, and she keeps a sharp eye out to see if you touch your cock at anytime. Moreover, even if you are doing DATY and using your hands to stimulate little tosca to rise, she does not allow that. So only those of you who can maintain a strong erection without ever touching it can have fun with her.[/QUOTE]
I have met many women over the years who are very adverse to fingering. When I have spoken to them about it I have often been told, and I think that there is considerable truth to this, that fingering can result is urinary tract infection for many girls. The hands are in fact quite a source of bacterial infection and so some girls are very careful with this.
The bit about not touching your covered dick probably has the same or similar worry for the girl. i.e. she is worried that you will contaminate your dick with bacteria from the hands.
And I think many of the girls go over the top a bit with this worry maybe sublimating some of their general sex industry health concerns into this one rule. Perhaps they think if they are careful with this they will avoid other illnesses.
I also sometimes wonder if some girls simply have unpleasant associations with fingering as perhaps some of their earliest sex experiences were from uncaring, rough fingering. Speculation on my part I know but as I really love to include gentle but deep finger play it is an issue that concerns and interests me. Especially when a girl enjoys finger play, you can see what a turn on for both it can be.
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Trim your finger nails
[QUOTE=Angus Magee]I have met many women over the years who are very adverse to fingering. When I have spoken to them about it I have often been told, and I think that there is considerable truth to this, that fingering can result is urinary tract infection for many girls. The hands are in fact quite a source of bacterial infection and so some girls are very careful with this.
The bit about not touching your covered dick probably has the same or similar worry for the girl. i.e. she is worried that you will contaminate your dick with bacteria from the hands.
And I think many of the girls go over the top a bit with this worry maybe sublimating some of their general sex industry health concerns into this one rule. Perhaps they think if they are careful with this they will avoid other illnesses.
I also sometimes wonder if some girls simply have unpleasant associations with fingering as perhaps some of their earliest sex experiences were from uncaring, rough fingering. Speculation on my part I know but as I really love to include gentle but deep finger play it is an issue that concerns and interests me. Especially when a girl enjoys finger play, you can see what a turn on for both it can be.[/QUOTE]
Finding a chick who enjoys fingering is a treat.
A girlfriend taught me how to massage her G spot and it would drive her absolutely bonkers.
One way you can counter her health concerns is showing her you've trimmed your finger nails. Sharp nails can cause small cuts and those cuts are what she wants to avoid.
I forgot to bring a nail clipper once and had to ask the owner of my hotel if I could borrow one. I never travel without one now.
Another thing you can offer to do is wear a condom on your finger. This is always appreciated.
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[QUOTE=Jackyo]Another thing you can offer to do is wear a condom on your finger. This is always appreciated.[/QUOTE]
I actually will usually bring along a pair of latex gloves for the purpose of really deep fingering in both holes (one for each of course).
I have found a girl at Liberty who is really into it and she lets me stuff as many finger as I can manage up either hole:-). Gets her really hot and then she fucks my brains out. Last time I had bruises on my pubic bone...
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This is an even better idea!
[QUOTE=Angus Magee]I actually will usually bring along a pair of latex gloves for the purpose of really deep fingering in both holes (one for each of course).
I have found a girl at Liberty who is really into it and she lets me stuff as many finger as I can manage up either hole:-). Gets her really hot and then she fucks my brains out. Last time I had bruises on my pubic bone...[/QUOTE]Reminds me of Peter's story of initially being so freaked out about health concerns when he got into this hobby he did bring latex gloves with him to his first encounter.
The chick freaked out though because she thought he was going to perform some kind of medical experiment on her.
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[QUOTE=Jackyo]Reminds me of Peter's story of initially being so freaked out about health concerns when he got into this hobby he did bring latex gloves with him to his first encounter.
The chick freaked out though because she thought he was going to perform some kind of medical experiment on her.[/QUOTE]Actually with the girl I am referring to (Anna bei Liberty) the Doctor/Medical association with the gloves seems to turn her on. The first time I saw her (no gloves this time) I put my glasses on to perform a close inspection and she started calling me Herr Doktor. The name has sort of stuck and now with the gloves the fantasy just improves her turn on I think. I am next session going to pony up an extra 10€ for the use of the gynstuhl and really go to town.
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Artemis on October
As my work called me in Berlin again, I could not avoid the chance of testing Artemis once again.
So here is my report:
First of all I must underline that I had bad luck as I was in Berlin during the Venus fachmesse ( 16-18 Oct). That gave me the opportunity to realize how Artemis could seem a stadium in such occasions. Points of view may vary: I imagine that the boss and the girls put down the red carpet. I didn’t. In other words a real FKK addicted as I am (considering FKK as taking a sigarette, a sauna, a massage and few selected gals as well) avoids those days as a plague. I am a visitor but I really need to share the upset for such an encroachment with my german colleagues.
BTW, let’s speak of girls.
I had five girls in two days:
DAY 1
With such a crowd I preferred the downstairs lounge, where I found Iolanda, from Jamaica, in other words a dark skinned girl. Usually I usually avoid those girls, but she catched me with her smile.
Iolanda
25-27 y.o.
About 1,80 tall
B natural breast
Velveted skin from Jamaica
I'm not used to appreciate black girls but Iolanda, with her ebony skin, was a surprise. Great DFK, great great BBJ, in the meanwhile allowing me deep fingering her pussy (my favourite job). After some minutes of cowgirl I fucked her on doggy where I completed my job. Her sculptured back while I was fucking her is something hard to forget.
While resting she allowed deep fingering her pussy again and she liked it (IMO she came).
Rates:
Body 9
Face 8,5
GFE 9
Repeat: yes
I imagine you are not interested at all at my relaxing periods, so I’ll throw myself two hours later, where, after eating and relaxing, I found Sylvia, From Hungary (but not sure). She intrigued me as she was really nice.
Sylvia
25-28 y.o.
About 1,65 tall
Blond smooth hair
B natural breast
Slim body
She is another (rare) provider taking care of the client satisfaction (as Martina, already tested, her friend).
Before entering the room she asked me for an extra cleaning of my silver jewels, and she withdraw for a while as well . Good beginning: I appreciated it.
In the room she was very nice. Very charming DFK. Great BBJ: I longly kept her neck firmly in my hands pacing her rhythm and her depth nearly to my climax. Believe me: playing with a neck in such a way is not usual - hard to avoid shooting in her mouth. After I fucked her hardly on doggy and later I came: great experience and best orgasm along these days.
An oil massage after sex was a welcomed add on.
Rates
Face 7,5
Body 8
GFE 9
Repeat yes
After a proper relaxing period of sauna, massage, biosauna, swimming pool, sigarettes and drinking I met Christiana, from Romania.
Christiana
1,70 tall
23 y.o.
black straight hair
B natural breast
slim body
Artemis was really crowded at that moment. As we arranged for sex we moved downstair where we waited for fucking: she kept my cock awaked performing an handjob while chatting with another couple. Really odd. Later, below the courtains, she didn’t resemble as the Artemis queen at all. She was such a girl “beware of keeping my neck while on BJ, beware of deep fingering my pussy, beware of keeping my back on doggy”. But I was in vein and I took my honest revenge fucking her very hardly on doggy. I didn’t care if she moaned, probably she did. Nevertheless I came deeply in her pussy.
Very scanty chatting afterwards.
Rates
Face 8,5
Body 8,5
GFE 6
Repeat no
SECOND DAY
Skipping the relaxing atmoshere I enjoyed after the working day I had, I will report you about Nathalie (or Natasha), from Moskow, wearing a golden metal chain around her naked wrist.
At last in this second day I joined my favourite position in the last row of the downstair kino. After some patrolling girls, which I refused as they promised to kiss and suck me only when in the room, Nathalie from Moskow sat close to me and began chatting, caressing and kissing me. Yeah, I said, that’s good. Let’s fuck her.
Nathalie
1,70 tall
Smooth blond hairs
B-C natural breast
Slim body
A golden metal chain wrapping her wrist
Below the courtains of the room she performed an acceptable BBJ, a good cowgirl and a good mish with an acceptable moaning. Without praise or blame. Usually gals give their best performances in the room. She didn’t.
Rates
Face 8
Body 8,5
GFE 6,5
Repeat: yes, if in an emergency chance
Last choice was Petra. She lured me all the day. Her common position was either smoking at the main bar or controlling the entrance of the main lounge. She intrigued me as she never patrolled, neither the upstair kino or even downstair, just smoking her cigarettes glancing behind her stylish glasses. She could resemble as a young mathematic teacher which makes your young dick growing in the pants while explaining some stupid theories at the blackboard.
Few words and we went up where we waited for nearly ten minutes on the sofa as all the rooms where working.
Petra
1,70 tall
Smooth blond hairs
Slim body
B natural breast
Stylish glasses
Without her glasses she looses charme. First girl I disliked to kiss as she had a bad breath (too many sigarettes, too much garlic…?), so I can’t definetly vote her DFK. A sufficient BBJ: she removed my (gentle) hand from her neck. She didn’t allow to deep fingering her pussy. But on my prolonged mish she moaned greatly whispering the right dirty words in my ears. As I love them I came with a great orgasm.
Rates
Face 8,5 with glasses, 7 without
Body 8
GFE 8
Repeat why not if necessary.
To the next, my beloved colleagues
Z
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Countdown
So. My first visit to Artemis is just a week away. I must say I've read most of the posts here and thanx to them I feel more 'prepared'. Just one thing me and my friends cannot decide yet. Go on a Thursday or on a Friday. I was thinking to go on a Thursday so on Friday I visit Watergate Club and party a little. But is it better on a Friday?
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Is Atemis the only FKK club in Berlin ? What about La Folie ? Are there others?
Please, help an old FKK-fan.
Paul
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Yep, that would be it as far as FKK clubs are concerned
[QUOTE=Paul23]Is Atemis the only FKK club in Berlin ? What about La Folie ? Are there others?
Please, help an old FKK-fan.
Paul[/QUOTE]
Berlin has a veritable cornucopia of other formats though: Sexkinos, Wohnungspuffs, Strassenstrich.
More details available under the Berlin thread.
I particularly recommend a series of posts by Angus Magee, our resident Berlinmeister, where he lays out the options in the [i]Bundeshauptstadt[/i].
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Artemis on Thursday Afternoon/Evening
Hi,
I am just wondering if anyone reading is planning to be at Artemis this Thursday afternoon or evening. I am playing with the idea of going tomorrow and am at about 60% yes right now. Having a fellow ISG member there might just tip the scales further towards going.
I have been in Berlin now for 4 years and I have never been to this establishment, instead favoring the bordellos. For me the financial end of Artemis is a bit of a sticking point. The 70 euro entrance fee makes it only cost effective if you stay for a minimum of two sessions so the whole outlay comes to 190 euros, possibly more....
Anyway, I have been doing ok lately (financially) and have a little Artemis fund built up. So I thought tomorrow might just be the day. I also like the idea of some hours spent with the sauna and just relaxing in a nice environment. Work last week was very intense.
Let me know via pm or here in the forum.
Friday could also work but I think Thursday may be a better day at Artemis.
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Hi,
I am just wondering if anyone reading is planning to be at Artemis this Thursday afternoon or evening. I am playing with the idea of going tomorrow and am at about 60% yes right now. Having a fellow ISG member there might just tip the scales further towards going.
I have been in Berlin now for 4 years and I have never been to this establishment, instead favoring the bordellos. For me the financial end of Artemis is a bit of a sticking point. The 70 euro entrance fee makes it only cost effective if you stay for a minimum of two sessions so the whole outlay comes to 190 euros, possibly more....
Anyway, I have been doing ok lately (financially) and have a little Artemis fund built up. So I thought tomorrow might just be the day. I also like the idea of some hours spent with the sauna and just relaxing in a nice environment. Work last week was very intense.
Let me know via pm or here in the forum.
Friday could also work but I think Thursday may be a better day at Artemis.[/QUOTE]Angus,
I think in general, I prefer Saturdays over Friday or Thursdays. The only Saturdays I would try to avoid are when a big Messe is in town (like Venus a couple of weeks back). Then its get pretty crazy, with long waits for rooms, having to flag down girls you want before she is taken by another punter and the overall hectic atmosphere. Its even hard to find a decent place to sit during those Messe Saturdays. A normal Sat is busy, but there is usually no problem sessioning with a girl you want. Also, I prefer to stay at Artemis for 10+ hours when I go and session 3-5 times. That is hard to do during a workday.
I don't think there is a big convention this weekend, so I will probably head to Artemis on Sat afternoon. Let me know if that would work for you.
JLSF
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Hi,
I am just wondering if anyone reading is planning to be at Artemis this Thursday afternoon or evening. I am playing with the idea of going tomorrow and am at about 60% yes right now. Having a fellow ISG member there might just tip the scales further towards going.
I have been in Berlin now for 4 years and I have never been to this establishment, instead favoring the bordellos. For me the financial end of Artemis is a bit of a sticking point. The 70 euro entrance fee makes it only cost effective if you stay for a minimum of two sessions so the whole outlay comes to 190 euros, possibly more....
Anyway, I have been doing ok lately (financially) and have a little Artemis fund built up. So I thought tomorrow might just be the day. I also like the idea of some hours spent with the sauna and just relaxing in a nice environment. Work last week was very intense.
Let me know via pm or here in the forum.
Friday could also work but I think Thursday may be a better day at Artemis.[/QUOTE]Hi Angus,
I may be able to go tomorrow - though I would have to be there for about 11ish when it opens and leave at about 3pm as I have to leave Berlin tomorrow.
Which isn't terribly helpful to you.
Well, if you do go, I hope you enjoy it! (I think it's fantastic)
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Hi,
I am just wondering if anyone reading is planning to be at Artemis this Thursday afternoon or evening. I am playing with the idea of going tomorrow and am at about 60% yes right now. .
I have been in Berlin now for 4 years and I have never been to this establishment, instead favoring the bordellos. For me the financial end of Artemis is a bit of a sticking point. The 70 euro entrance fee makes it only cost effective if you stay for a minimum of two sessions so the whole outlay comes to 190 euros, possibly more.[/QUOTE]IMHO Artemis and FKKs are addictive. Bordellos can't be compared. I realized that while on my relax after sex in my last October sessions.
As just a former newbie, I can't act as a teacher as all with our Berlinmeister , but IMO what is overwhelming is the experience of hunting (or be hunted from) a girl in the scene rather than choosing a girl from a line up. Moreover the chance of selecting the situation (Kino, sofas, lounges) in such a facility as Artemis, is just a drug for our brain.
Professional reports are welcomed
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Smoking
Small question.
Is Artemis smoking or non smoking inside, by the bar etc.
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[QUOTE=Sunstar777]Small question.
Is Artemis smoking or non smoking inside, by the bar etc.[/QUOTE]The only area that is non smoking is downstairs in the wellness area: pool, sauna. The rest of the club allows smoking (including the rooms).
If you can't handle the smoke, then you can hang downstairs. Only about quarter of the girls come down to this area to look for customers so you will need to go to the main room to pick the girls you want to session with.
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You can smoke in the bar
[QUOTE=Sunstar777]Small question.
Is Artemis smoking or non smoking inside, by the bar etc.[/QUOTE]You can smoke in the bar.
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]I am playing with the idea of going tomorrow and am at about 60% yes right now. [/QUOTE]
It's worth the experience. Go there, find Viagra (Brasil) and fuck one of THE FKK legends.
HB
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[QUOTE=Sunstar777]Small question.
Is Artemis smoking or non smoking inside, by the bar etc.[/QUOTE]Sunstar777,
Not that I smoke, the bar area level of Artemis allows smoking. The wellness area in the ground level is non smoking, although some inconsiderate souls continue to smoke there.
I find the atmosphere better without the smoke.
Cheers,
Londonbasketcase
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Smoking
[QUOTE=Sunstar777]Small question.
Is Artemis smoking or non smoking inside, by the bar etc.[/QUOTE]But don't be afraid Girls like to smoke you in the rooms.
Otherwise you can smoke in the smoking bar but not allowed in the bar downstairs be careful all the girls are in the smoking bar just few donwstairs
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Angus loses his FKK cherry-long post.
before i say anything else let me tell you that this morning my dick is sore and my wallet empty. and i am happy to say that i am no longer an fkk virgin.
first some practical information and my general impressions of the facility. i found actually getting to artemis just a wee bit difficult on foot. the nearest s-bahn station, in fact the only real public transit option (i think there is also a bus that stops close to artemis) is westkreuz. when i got off the train i looked around for an exit and could not see one. i found a set of stairs but there was some sort of construction going on and for some reason this did not seem to be it. i asked someone, who did not seem to know, but who told me with great certainty that the stairs were not the exit. i then proceeded to wander around the westkreuz station for about 10 minutes looking for an exit. no luck. as far as i could see the station was in the middle of railway ground and there was no way out! feeling now a bit existential and wondering if perhaps i should give up and return home, i was actually still at only about 80% yes to this whole enterprise, i decided to use the stairs. the ones that i was told was most definitely not the exit.
this was in fact the only exit to westkreuz station and it takes you to a parking lot/drop off point right in the middle of railway lands and multilane highways. but from here on it is pretty straight forward road to get to artemis. you just walk a 100 m. or so and it is really the only place that you can walk to out here except for what looked to be an auto repair facility next door. if you are having difficulties and it is night time just look over your left shoulder as you exit the station and you will see a big red neon light. head towards that as it is artemis’ neon sign on top of their building.
the intake was easy and, telling the girl (reasonable english spoken) it was my first time, i was given a good explanation of the facilities and how things worked. i changed into my robe, donned my slippers and headed for the shower. then i had a look around. my first impression of the place was that it is a very well decked out club. lots of space, seating and nooks and crannies in which to get intimate. i liked it.
the time of my arrival was shortly after 18:00 on a thursday-late in the month which apparently has an effect on the busy-ness. when i arrived there seemed to be about 20 girls, mostly in the main floor bar-the one where you can smoke. however, after sitting for about 5 minutes with a cola i could see that more were coming on shift and there would be no shortage of girls in the house tonight. as far as i could see there were not very many men at this time. it is fairly easy to get a good idea of this. you just look out over the room and if you see a sea of white robes it is busy. at this time mostly i saw mostly naked to scantily clad female forms, which was fine by me.
i took a seat on one of the bed platforms in the lounge area of the bar (near the dining room i think) and spent a few minutes arriving and watching the scene. almost right away i was approached, one after the other, by a few girls. each was nice, no stunners, and i told them all the same thing: that i had just arrived and wanted to relax a bit first. all of them were easy about this and left with the comment that perhaps we will have a chance to talk more later. i felt no pressure and i am guessing that at this time of the evening the interactions are pretty laid back.
after about ten minutes i left the bar to explore. i ended up down in the wellness area and spent the next while in the saunas and pool. with this aspect of artemis i was very, very impressed. the hot sauna (90 deg.) is great and there are two cold plunges which i appreciate very much after a sauna. the more mellow 60 deg. sauna is a nice place to hang out and the pool is just warm enough that you can spend some time in there just floating.
there were very few ladies in this area, just every once in a while one would wander through. i guess having a look for potential customers. and there was one lady, older but with one of those very pampered looking pneumatic bodies, optically attractive but looking like she might just pop if you were to land on it a little too hard. she was lounging/posing on one of the wicker lounge chairs that surround the pool. every once in a while she would stand up and walk around the pool, positioning herself just outside the hot sauna and then returning to her lounge chair. at first i thought “major shark”, but after watching her some time i decided, in keeping with the aquatic theme, that barracuda was a better description of her. still a largish predator that i wished to avoid this evening. no worries though as she really seemed to be a woman who was pretty confident of her appeal to some men and she was simply offering her looks as bait.
at this point i was still feeling quite flat at being here in artemis. i even briefly considered that i would just hang in the wellness area for a couple of hours, get my fill of the sauna and leave. but who am i kidding. it was time to head back upstairs and see if i could find a nice girl to break my fkk cherry.
upstairs was busier when i returned. more ladies, a number of more men. i took a large glass of mineral water and sat down on one of the couches close to the bar. immediately i was joined by a dark haired beauty (spanish i think) with whom i chatted for a while but, in keeping with iseeu’s sound advise about approaching rather than being approached by the ladies, when she broached the subject of fun upstairs i told her i was wanting to mingle a bit more. she took this well (a good sign according to iseeu) and said perhaps later and left. i was sort of wondering how to find a girl i
i liked, sensing that just sitting there on the couch was a bad strategy (might as well paint a large red dot on your chest and wait to be picked off, or like dumping a bucket of fresh chicken guts into shark infested waters) when i spotted a girl that peeked my interest. the girls do seem to have some sort of sense that tells them when they have caught a guy's interest as she was walking quickly across the bar when i noticed her and she immediately stopped, looked around and caught my gaze. i motioned her over and soon she was practically sitting on my lap.
her name was luciana (i am pretty sure) and she was from brazil, tall, dark skin, smallish breasts, wide hips, flat stomach perhaps 23-24 years old. we chatted (just a note-most of the girls i interacted with this evening spoke better german than english though german was rarely their first language. my german, especially in such a situation is quite passable and i do like to practice in a relaxed atmosphere. but my feeling is that speaking only english in artemis would not be such a big problem unless you want to discuss early 1900th century philosophy with the girls. and what are the chances of that...) and after about ten minutes conversation was pretty much exhausted.
now i did not have a great feeling with this girl, not the love of my life, but she was nice and i certainly found her physically appealing, so when she suggested a room i immediately agreed. i had the feeling that i could dither all evening trying to find “the perfect girl”. ditherer as i am sometimes, i also recognize that in life you just have to take the plunge and have the experience-good or bad. so off we went and soon we were in one of the upstairs rooms doing what i had come to do.
so how was it? okay. not bad, but certainly not mind blowing in any way. luciana was a sweet girl, nice bj(uncovered), kissing and the sex was easy. she tried a brief up sell (did i want an hour long session?) but seemed quite content with the “ganz normal” session i wanted. she also mentioned extras but did not elaborate when i said no extras. in the end and after a cuddle and a bit of pillow talk i paid the girl and we parted. the earth still spun on it’s axis and as far as i could tell the sun, moon and stars were all still up there in the heavens.
i returned to the sauna, showered and did another short round in the 60 deg. then floated a bit in the pool. my thoughts revolved that in getting the maximum enjoyment from the fkk experience there is, as with many things in life, a learning curve. there is here in this environment a very delicate balance to be achieved between approaching the girls and being approached. what i learned from my first experience was that it is probably best to be mobile when approaching a girl. sitting on the coach and calling her over to you sort of implies an eagerness that, after our ten minute talk, i really did not feel. i guess i could have at that point thanked her and moved on but enough of the post game analysis. chalk it up to experience, learn what is there to learn and move on, which is what i did.
back up in the bar i was about to make a big mistake. i sat at the bar and was again immediately set upon, first by a dark haired romanian , who left with the usual “perhaps later “ when i told her i was having a post session rest. and then by a bulgarian (marrisa?) girl who i was later to realize was a classic shark. not a big mean fierce one that chews you apart in the first 5 seconds, rather a reef shark who does not do much damage but is never the less a predator. so she sidled up to me and before i knew it she was kissing my neck and face and had her hands wrapped around my cock under the robe. some part (looking back) knew that i should have disengaged and seen her reaction but before i knew it we were headed for the room.
the rest is history. not a good session. well, to be fair, not the worst i have had but the sex was mechanical and once we got to the room the kisses were perfunctory and the passion was obviously very fake. little angus was not happy and even getting an erection was a bit of a task. finally with some coaxing he was hard enough to do the job he had come for and marrisa, in doggy, was sexy enough to at least manage an orgasm. we cleaned up and off we went to pay the girl.
jesus the lighting down by the safe boxes needs to be improved somehow. while paying the marrisa, who i realized in the harsh light of the lobby was probably on the far side of thirty, i had one of those-did i just stick my dick in that, and pay for the privilege? moments. but maybe it was just the light and the hallucinogenic tricks the mind can play on one in the midst of deep regret.
down once more to the sauna area i grabbed a mineral water and took a recliner, close my eyes and licked my wounds inflicted by the reef shark marrisa. all in all not so bad. more of the learning curve i told myself in justification. now i was seriously considering leaving. 190 in the hole and i was still feeling pretty much dissatisfied as far as the sex aspect of the fkk experience goes. mentally i was adding it all up and calculating just what kind of session, with extras, i could have had with one of my tried and true favorites at kd or liberty. but this sort of thought really gets you know where, what’s done is done, the only thing important is what to do now.
i decided to head back upstairs for a while and observe. the bar was by now much busier. but the predominant view was nearly naked female forms. there seemed to be an abundance of women and really the white robes were in short supply. on the surface this may seem like a good thing for us mongers, but the feeling i had from the bar was one of deep dissatisfaction from the females. they were hungry, and sort of bored. a dangerous combination in my experience of dealing with women.
there were not may seats left now, all the couches being taken by foot tapping naked girls, chain smoking and casting their eyes about or conferring with their girl friends about the pathetic state of the male company tonight i imagined. i finally spotted an empty bed recliner in the upper part of the room, i took m place up there, arranged the pillows and sat back to just watch the show. i figured at this point that i would sit for some time and if nothing really interesting happened i would leave.
i was left pretty much alone now. as i mentioned the girls were all sort of restless and they seemed to be either talking with friends or circulating and trying to snare a wandering male. there really did seem to be a extreme man shortage this evening. a half an hour passed and i was still alone on the bed when a young lady walked up, asked if i was sitting with someone and when i replied no, lay down on the the other side of the bed. her name was andrea, from budapest and she was quite visually appealing. we chatted a bit and i slowly started to realize that she was not quite so non-chalantly “just chilling” as i at first thought and as she was trying to appear. nice approach though, i thought. as we sat and chatted (she was mostly complaining about the lack of action from the men tonight and how she had to pay her bills tomorrow) i saw that she was offering me poses and as i mention she was cute and i was enjoying it.
maybe 20 minutes passed and soon she was openly playing with her pussy so that i could just see what was going on. with the line nicely baited (and beautiful bait it was too) she tried to set the hook. but old angus was leery and this time thinking with the big head. for when she openly suggested we go for some fun i told her i was recovering from my second session and was frankly unsure of my ability to get it up for a third session. with this she chided me for “thinking negatively”, she who had just spent the past 20-25 minutes in full complaint about the state of things in the bar, pulled in her line and wiggled off for some deeper pool and perhaps a more promising catch. i hope she found him but was glad it was not me.
proud of myself i relaxed again alone and watched the strip show that had just started on stage. it ended and i was still alone. i considered the romanian girl with whom i had chatted earlier as she seemed to be at a loose end by the bar and she did look to be some fun, but there was not a whole lot of juice left in me. i was starkly aware that my last session had been tenuous at best (getting it up i mean) and i was not at all confident that the next would be any better unless i could somehow find a girl who really turned my crank.
in total i must have lay there over an hour looking at the girls and occasionally feeling a stirring of interest. then a girl i had not seen before walked into the bar. again, i am amazed at this sixth sense women seem to have. as she came in walking purposely across the floor my head turned, saw her (she was maybe 8 meters away in a darkish room) and my eyebrows must have raised. the law of the jungle was in actions and she, senses on high alert, must have caught the movement of my eye brows. or maybe i somehow beamed her a signal off the third star in orion’s belt, so i imagine, and she made a bee line for me on the bed.
she asked politely if she could join me and of course i said yes. her name was iris, from romania, perhaps 22-23 years old she was slim, wide hips, smallish breasts, long straight blondish streaked hair and just something about her i liked. she was not a drop dead gorgeous type but, dressed right, she would turn my head on the street. we chatted for some time (15-20 minutes) all the time moving closer and starting to touch each other. this was flowing nicely but i was still somehow worried about my ability to perform, or it was in the back of my mind, and i was starting to be aware that i had to somehow tell this girl that i was hesitant to commit to a full session. fair is fair and we were acting pretty much as if it was a forgone conclusion that we would end up in a room, but i was unsure.
at this point iris started to touch little angus under my robe and i more or less knew that things had gone too far if i did not stop her. i felt a stirring but no real erection yet. then she suddenly asked if i wanted a bj.
where? here? i asked
sure. she replied.
okay. (never one to turn down such an offer from a comely female)
now i know that i was now committed to the girl for a session by the protocol i have read about on the fkk threads. but i also wondered if she had little angus in her mouth, with no result, if i could still back out without causing a big scene with her. she closed the curtains most of the way, opened my robe and started to kiss, soft little kisses up and down my torso. then she reached into her bag and came out with a condom.
humm..no bbbj here, i thought.
but i was not going to argue now and besides i also had the thought that if she can get little “a” hard now, with a condom, she really will perform in a full session. down she went on me and i lay back and enjoyed the experience of being blown in a bar with the curtains open a bit so i could look out onto the bar at all that was happening around me. and little angus seemed to be responding to her talents. before i knew it he was a stiff as a fence post and iris’ magical mouth was bobbing up and down with great enthusiasm. yes this girl knew how to give head.
joy!
i let her keep going at it for several minutes until i realized that she was going to make me come if i did not stop things pretty soon. yes she was that good. i signaled her to stop and kissed her, nice, lots of tongue and asked if we could find a room. i am pretty sure that we could have just kept going in the bar there. it was quite private with the curtain pulled but as much as anything i wanted to make it clear to her that we would have a full half hour session.
upstairs the mongers were stacked up like holiday air traffic over o’hare airport waiting for rooms to be free. i guess there were more white robes that i thought this evening. iris, rather than wait, suggested that we could find a room down by the kino. sure enough there was one available and soon enough the towels were spread and we were once again kissing and naked.
so this was more like it. the session was great and as close to a gfe as i imagine i could have at an fkk. my only slight disappointment was the covered bj but with her technique it seemed actually to make little difference to how the bj felt. in the room her bj was more aggressive and she really went to town on little angus. she also enjoyed being licked and was very responsive, getting very wet and thrusting back as my tongue worked in her pussy. she was also a very loud fuck and i think for a while we must have drowned out the noises from the sex kino. when she climbed on top of me she went quite wild, fucking herself hard on my cock and even squatting, feet flat beside me, for several minutes fucking just about as hard as it is possible to go and bruising, i think, my pubic bone in the process and leaving me today with that “i was fucked really hard by a very horny girl” feeling today.
finally i had her position herself in doggy and did some of the work as well, again fucking as hard as i possibly could and much harder than i even normally enjoy. this girl’s pure animal intensity and enjoyment of being fucked hard was, well, infectious. i remember briefly having the thought that it may be difficult to actually finish. this to be was my third shot, after all, in so any hours. but my dick was so hard and in the position we were in i could really fuck her with long, hard, steady, deep thrusts. and her pussy was fully wet and seemed to keep opening and then grasping me as i pulled almost all the way out before thrusting again and again as deep as i possibly could, that i soon forgot to worry and with a final deep thrust i came in one of those really, really satisfying, ball emptying orgasms.
dripping sweat, heart pounding we held the position for a couple of minutes as my dick fully emptied into her pussy (well, into the condom) and then finally we separated and she did the clean up on me, got rid of the condom and then curled up for a bit of a cuddle and a chat. no rush as we talked a bit and i complimented her on her skills as a lover and her beauty, which in my experience no woman ever gets tired of hearing about.
finally i suggested we get up and go finish our transaction. this time i happily paid her well earned 60 euros, we kissed once more (still deep and with feeling), said our good byes and i headed for the showers and then home to fall exhausted into my bed.
so there you have it guys, a rather long account of my introduction to the fkk tradition at artemis club. this morning i woke up and felt over all happy with my visit despite the fact that my first two sessions were a tad disappointing. as i have mentioned there is that learning curve to consider.
fkk is not cheap. last night i spent a total of 250 euros on three sessions and the entrance fee. and i guess i could have easily spent more were i to have gone for the extras offered by the ladies. so walking into an fkk (at least artemis) with less than say 300 euros is probably not so wise. i guess i could have stopped at two sessions but then i would have missed out on the best session of the evening, the one that really made it all worth while and put a shine to the evening. and to put it in a bit of balance, i also had over 5 hours at the club and easily the sauna facilities alone are worth the high price you pay. when i break it down to a per hour number it really seems a reasonable full evening’s entertainment.
so while i am not ready to forgo bordellos now in favor of fkk i do see a definite place for the fkk in my mongers diet. the whole experience is great fun, even the disappointments really. it is a bit of a challenge and an adventure to find the right girl (or allow her to find you?) who will rock your world for the evening. i imagine that i will be back at artemis, or another fkk if i can swing that, sometime, perhaps a road trip. but i also imagine that it will not be a weekly thing for me or even monthly. maybe a couple to three times a year or on special occasions.
i also see a couple of thing i would do differently next time. number one would be to really make the effort to find a time when i could hook up with another isg member to make the visit. it is my observation that a single guy, without buddies i mean, is at a distinct disadvantage at a club like artemis. two guys (or a a few more, but not a mob) seem to be able to hang easier in the thick of the female action and not be such a target for the hard core predators. then that all important eye contact etc. can be made and the girl then approached. there is often, i think, a slight air of want or need around the buddy-less male that makes it harder to achieve the energy that attracts the right caliber of woman. i mean, if you have a friend there hanging alone is not an issue and the female company is in addition to your good time rather than being your “raison d’etre” of being there.
i also think that next time i might try to arrive earlier in the afternoon, use the sauna, perhaps have one session and then go away for a while, returning at around 20:00 when things seem to really get into a swing.
so thanks for reading if you have made it this far. hope you enjoyed it and that it can be of use to my fellow monger, both fkk experienced and newbies.
over and out
am
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Great post, AM!
Great stream of consciousness narrative style with lots of details! You capture the sense of what it is like to prowl a club in search of the perfect session, what the interactions with women are like and the considerations one weighs in making a decision.
At a club you recognize very quickly which dudes are hot to trot. They (as well as I) go into a pacing mode, wandering from room to room, making quick assessments of which chick is sitting where, who is away at a room, who has just come back. Its the only way to release nervous energy.
At a large club its not a problem. At a small club like Blue Note, for example, its more of a challenge. I go clockwise, then counter-clockwise.
Nothing wrong with dithering, by the way. We all do it to some degree.
You probably have more apartment bordello experience than most of us have so it was helpful to keep this in mind while reading your post. You have a slightly different perspective than a pure newbie.
Clubs do tend to have different personalities and distinct club sub-cultures, by the way. At some its easy to chat with anyone at the club: the staff, the other guests, the women. At other clubs, everyone is more standoffish. At certain clubs, certain behavior is tolerated and even encouraged. At others, there are unspoken rules about what is not allowed.
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AM at Artemis
Great report, ironic but detailed. You gave the sensation of being a newbie although you certainly fucked half of the Berlin scene or more.
I also totally agree with the conclusions.
Just to mention, it seems you are still bordello oriented.
Speaking of my short experience, without any aim of teaching, in FKK it's slighty different. You achieve the consciousness of being in a wellness facility and, time after time, you (partially) loose the anxiety of the session. IMO the best is when you are unprogrammed to catch a gal but a gal arrives and upset your mind and your body.
The problem between hunting or being hunted is hard to solve but both work well in different contexts (as you realized).
Cheers,
Z
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[QUOTE=Zipron]Great report, ironic but detailed. You gave the sensation of being a newbie although you certainly fucked half of the Berlin scene or more.
Just to mention, it seems you are still bordello oriented.
Z[/QUOTE]
I have to laud the post of Angus below, a kind of Catcher in the Rye of FKK reports.
However, it is important, I think, to make the distinction between Artemis in Berlin and the general body of FKKs elsewhere in Germany, primarily in NRW and Hessen. I mean, I don't know if Artemis properly represents the middle ground of the FKK experience (assuming such exists), but rather one of the more extreme "posh" FKKs, somewhat Palace-esqe.
Angus, you say, based on your Artemis experience you would certainly re-visit, but not more than a couple of times a year. Well, I wonder what you would make if you were to visit some of the other so-called "mainstream" FKKs. Imagine a bordello-like club, where things are structured and priced a bit differently than, say, KD or Liberty. Imagine a place like F39 in Bochum, where the girl line-up is spread before you on individual couches, and you just walk through the giant hall and stop at the couch of your choice to chat a bit, then move on. Or a place like Oase in Hessen, where the girl line-up, sometimes numbering beyond 50 girls, will come up to you on your bar stool or couch and flirt with you, giving you the odd HJ, etc. Or Bernd's where you can watch the girl line-up BBBJing or more other clients before you decide on whom to choose for your own romp, etc.
This is by no means an attempt to deminish the joys and charms of the bordello scene in Berlin. Just trying to encourage you and others who have only tried one club to branch out a bit (if possible) and try to explore the wide parameters of the FKK universe within Germany. Then you might have a slightly different perspective on FKKs in gereral, and Artemis in particular.
Plus, lastly, the more clubs and club visits you put under your belt, the more experience you get in playing this game. So the dividends of more positive sessions will increase. You will learn to read the body language of certain sharky types right off the bat.
Thanks for a great report and keep your insights coming....
Ortos
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[QUOTE=Ortos]I have to laud the post of Angus below, a kind of Catcher in the Rye of FKK reports.
However, it is important, I think, to make the distinction between Artemis in Berlin and the general body of FKKs elsewhere in Germany, primarily in NRW and Hessen. I mean, I don't know if Artemis properly represents the middle ground of the FKK experience (assuming such exists), but rather one of the more extreme "posh" FKKs, somewhat Palace-esqe.
Angus, you say, based on your Artemis experience you would certainly re-visit, but not more than a couple of times a year. Well, I wonder what you would make if you were to visit some of the other so-called "mainstream" FKKs. Imagine a bordello-like club, where things are structured and priced a bit differently than, say, KD or Liberty. Imagine a place like F39 in Bochum, where the girl line-up is spread before you on individual couches, and you just walk through the giant hall and stop at the couch of your choice to chat a bit, then move on. Or a place like Oase in Hessen, where the girl line-up, sometimes numbering beyond 50 girls, will come up to you on your bar stool or couch and flirt with you, giving you the odd HJ, etc. Or Bernd's where you can watch the girl line-up BBBJing or more other clients before you decide on whom to choose for your own romp, etc.
This is by no means an attempt to deminish the joys and charms of the bordello scene in Berlin. Just trying to encourage you and others who have only tried one club to branch out a bit (if possible) and try to explore the wide parameters of the FKK universe within Germany. Then you might have a slightly different perspective on FKKs in gereral, and Artemis in particular.
Plus, lastly, the more clubs and club visits you put under your belt, the more experience you get in playing this game. So the dividends of more positive sessions will increase. You will learn to read the body language of certain sharky types right off the bat.
Thanks for a great report and keep your insights coming....
Ortos[/QUOTE]
Ortos-many thanks for the high praise in comparing me to one of my literrary heros. I am not so sure it is deserved but thanks anyway.
And certainly I think that you are right about not taking Artemis as wholly representative of the FKK scene. Artemis is in Berlin and Berlin is where I live so it is, until such time that another opens or I decide to take a road trip, the FKK I have.
But as you mention these other places I can certainly I imagine that they would be fun places to visit and I would be willing should such opportunity arise.
But when I look at the FKK experience I do see that it requires a fairly large investment in both time and (for me) money. So I am not so sure that it will, as I say, replace the bordello experience. I guess that we are all in this game for different reasons. While "the hunt" does appeal to me, I am often just wanting to get my pole waxed without the bother or having to get into it as it seems is required at Artemis.
In short, and I certainly hope that no perspective "real" GF ever reads this, sometimes an FKK seems like just too much commitment;-)
Perhaps this will change. After all, before this year I never, never went to see the same girl twice and quite enjoyed the sex kino experience.
Late night, horny, pay the lady, get my cock sucked, leave.
Now I find myself wanting to often repeat with a girl and am enjoying the familiarity this brings. And I have not hit a late night sex kino since last winter. So yes things can change.
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]
I also see a couple of thing I would do differently next time. Number one would be to really make the effort to find a time when I could hook up with another ISG member to make the visit. It is my observation that a single guy, without buddies I mean, is at a distinct disadvantage at a club like Artemis.
I also think that next time I might try to arrive earlier in the afternoon, use the sauna, perhaps have one session and then go away for a while, returning at around 20:00 when things seem to really get into a swing.
AM[/QUOTE]I have now visited Artemis twice on business trips to Berlin and agree that the first visit as a newbie is a lot about gaining these insights. I too have also had good and bad experiences (well not that bad but clinical) in a single visit never having 3 good experiences in one visit.
I will be in Berlin again on Wednesday/Thursday 3rd/4th December and would be glad to join you.
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[QUOTE=A Fox]I have now visited Artemis twice on business trips to Berlin and agree that the first visit as a newbie is a lot about gaining these insights. I too have also had good and bad experiences (well not that bad but clinical) in a single visit never having 3 good experiences in one visit.
I will be in Berlin again on Wednesday/Thursday 3rd/4th December and would be glad to join you.[/QUOTE]
Great-week days are not so good for me but please get in touch closer to your arrival and I will see what is going on then. I do understand that December brings a lot of new girls to the club.
AM
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Artemis on Fri 31st Oct
Hello all,
I was in Artemis on Fri 31st Oct whilst visiting Berlin. This was my 8th time in Artemis spread over the last 2 years or so. Is it just me but on this visit I noticed two things which disappointed me compared to my previous visits (which have been great). One was that the overall quality of women has decreased and the other more importantly to me is that the women are more aggressive than before. What I liked previously about Artemis was that you approached the women, if they did approach you it was subtle and they weren't pissed off if you said you needed more time to relax. You would then pick your girls carefully and normally ended up with good experiences. However on this trip there were a lot of sharks that kept coming up and trying to immediately get you to go to a room. Maybe things are more desperate with the credit crunch biting! Maybe this is just me but I would be interested to hear the opinions of others?
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[QUOTE=Mac75]Hello all,
I was in Artemis on Fri 31st Oct whilst visiting Berlin. This was my 8th time in Artemis spread over the last 2 years or so. Is it just me but on this visit I noticed two things which disappointed me compared to my previous visits (which have been great). One was that the overall quality of women has decreased and the other more importantly to me is that the women are more aggressive than before. What I liked previously about Artemis was that you approached the women, if they did approach you it was subtle and they weren't pissed off if you said you needed more time to relax. You would then pick your girls carefully and normally ended up with good experiences. However on this trip there were a lot of sharks that kept coming up and trying to immediately get you to go to a room. Maybe things are more desperate with the credit crunch biting! Maybe this is just me but I would be interested to hear the opinions of others?[/QUOTE]Mac75,
I agree with you that the girls are more aggressive than in the past but I would argue that the quality has improved in the 2+ years I have been going to Artemis. There has been a lot of turnover in the past 6 months and I personally believe the girls are generally more attractive and a bit younger than in the past.
I was at Artemis the same evening and had a great time. I have noticed that there tends to be more girls working in the club than in the past so they may be feeling competition to get customers. Also, the girls have been complaining the past month of a big slow down. They say the number of customers have dropped and are spending less money. General consensus seems to blame the economic downturn hitting all over Europe since September. So an increase in number of girls and drop in customers is probably adding more pressure on the girls to compete and troll for customers.
Still, with a bit of screening, anyone should be able to have a good time with multiple, very attractive girls
But
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[QUOTE=Mac75]Hello all,
I was in Artemis on Fri 31st Oct whilst visiting Berlin. This was my 8th time in Artemis spread over the last 2 years or so. Is it just me but on this visit I noticed two things which disappointed me compared to my previous visits (which have been great). One was that the overall quality of women has decreased and the other more importantly to me is that the women are more aggressive than before. What I liked previously about Artemis was that you approached the women, if they did approach you it was subtle and they weren't pissed off if you said you needed more time to relax. You would then pick your girls carefully and normally ended up with good experiences. However on this trip there were a lot of sharks that kept coming up and trying to immediately get you to go to a room. Maybe things are more desperate with the credit crunch biting! Maybe this is just me but I would be interested to hear the opinions of others?[/QUOTE]
I am sure that these things, like everything else, have their cycles. But perhaps a more experienced FKK customer can offer more insight. I would also imagine that the economy effects things at a club like Artemis.
One good thing about the obvious sharks is that they are, well, so obvious. As annoying as it may be fending them off at least you know where they are at.
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Angus' Artemis Visit-Saturday Evening
after a week of hemming and hawing i was on saturday, back at westkreuz s-bahn station and heading to artemis for a return visit to this luxury establishment. i was curious to see what artemis is like on a weekend. would it be too crowded to really enjoy one’s self?
as noted last time i decided that on my next visit i would arrive early and make full use of the sauna/pool facilities which i do enjoy very much and find that at artemis these facilities are quite excellent.
i arrived at 15:00, changed and headed down to the sauna immediately. no disappointment there and i spent a good three hours using the sauna, pool and finishing a book that i had been reading and not been finding the time to finish. a relaxing, well spent afternoon.
shortly after 18:00 i headed up to give the buffet a sample. my verdict-the food is certainly good and competently prepared and presented but i found it to be a bit heavy considering the intended evening activities. somehow to me sexual gymnastics, ham-steak, potatoes and sauerkraut do not a heavenly partnership make. but as i was indeed hungry after the sauna, i had a nice plate of food, minus the sauerkraut as i did not want to be plagued with sauerkraut burps later in the evening.
i also found the whole experience of eating in the small dining room with towel clad naked ladies and white robed fellow pooners just a little bit surreal. i have to say that if you have trouble wiping mental images from your mind, do not venture in here between, say, 18:00 and 19:00 when most of the girls seem to eat. i sat at a table with a thai girl and a blond polish girl, both of whom were shoveling in the food like it was all about to disappear.
while in the dining room i did catch sight of iris from my last visit and gave her a wave. of course i was wondering if i wanted to repeat with her and at that moment i was sort of split on the idea. i was, after all, here for new experiences.but on the other hand she was so good the last time...
as i finished and went out into the lounge and found a place to sit, iris appeared and jumped into my lap. that decided it. she would be, this time, my first session of the night. and i was not disappointed. we spent a good long time talking and laughing on the couch in the lounge and then, at my suggestion, off we went to a room. the session was as good, if not better, than the past time. it was, after all, my first session of the night. this time there was no condom used for the bj and as i remembered from last time this girl likes to fuck and fuck hard. and after we lay and chatted for a good long time,both of us seeming not to really want to get up and return to the club. finally though we did and i happily paid the girl her fee with a deep kiss and i left for the sauna again to recharge and recuperate.
by this time things were getting busy. the sauna was crowded and the girls were all starting to prowl for their first session. a word of warning here. when the sauna gets crowded it seems it is very easy for someone to grab the wrong robe. best not, i would say, to put anything that you would not want to part company with in the pockets. i saw some poor guy running around looking for his eyeglasses as someone had grabbed the wrong robe while he was in the sauna. and as i guess that this is a common occurrence he eventually would have got them back. still, not something i want to deal with on a night out when you are trying to have fun and identify which girl you want to fuck. still, i guess with no eye glasses, at least for me, all the girls looks would invariably improve.
back in the bar things were hopping. lots and lots of guys and the girls were on the prowl. i took a seat at the bar and spent the next 3/4 hr. to 1 hr. being approached but not meeting anyone who sparked an interest. it is actually a good exercise in holding ground to just sit there and let the girls try to tempt you, and after a while i started to enjoy it. i tried to be as straight with the girls as possible, letting them know right away that i was shopping and it was up them to interest me, or not. most of the girls were very good humored about this and i found it to be a good approach and it told me a lot about the girl how she reacted and how long she tried to convince me.
perhaps the most interesting approach was “the twins”. these two were, as far as i could tell, genuine twin sisters. either that or with the aid of cosmetics and plastic surgery they had altered themselves to become twins. which ever the scenario, they came up to me with a strong sell sales pitch featuring the “lesbi” show they would put on and how one would lick my balls while the other sucked my cock. tempting? only briefly. they were both tall blonds with way too much make up for my taste and, as mentioned, way too much silicone enhancement to really be of interest to me. but they were entertaining for 5 minutes and damn they did try hard to convince with both sets of hands underneath my robe stroking little a into full erection. but when i jokingly told them that what they were suggesting was “against god” they gave me a smirk, withdrew their hands and snaked off in search of another client. i never even asked how much.
a short time later my second session was about to happen. what i find interesting about my second session is that the girl had such a definite approach. shiva, an early 20’s brunette girl from prague came up to me a the bar, took my hand and informed me that we were going to the kino to have a smoke together. no hesitation on her part. it was as if she knew that we had to do this session. i was still unsure, she was attractive but with a pair of enhanced breasts and some fairly shocking teeth. too bad she did not use the money she spent on her breasts to have her widely spaced teeth fixed. but i guess a girl has to have her priorities.
we got to the kino, settled in and shiva started to snuggle into me while looking around at the very public sex that was taking place in there. interesting. as the impromptu session started to unfold i guess i thought that as the flow was so far pleasant, i may as well go with it. and as she undid my robe and went down on little a i started to feel better and better. despite her rather scary set of chompers, shiva gave a rather masterful bj.
and then there was the public aspect.
isg member iseeu has told me quite a bit about the partytreff scene. while of interest to me, i always sort of wonder if indeed that this is something that would suit me. there is for me a bit of a worry that the public aspect of partytreff would not be conducive to a good experience. frankly, i was worried that little a might get all shy on me and fail to perform.
with this experience i found quite the opposite to be true. as we started to get into it i found that fucking in full view was sort of exciting. as i let shiva blow me i looked around and there was a fellow punter fucking his girl hard from behind and on the platform above us i could see anther fellow receiving a bj. at this point, to her credit, young shiva let me know (i already knew but it was nice of her to make sure) that were i to come in her mouth the session would cost an extra 50€. no danger in that though. while her bj was good i could tell it would not be good enough to finish like that without some pretty major hand support.
i turned shiva around and gave her pussy a good licking, the moans and rhythmic, slap, slap, slap echoing erotically in my head. then she hopped up on her knees, stuck her young round ass in the air towards me and somewhat forcefully demanded that i fuck her hard “von hintern”.
glad to oblige my dear.
it was a loud, enthusiastic fuck we had. her face down, head in a pillow and moaning rather a bit too loudly to be believable, little angus, in fine form, burying his purple helmet deep in her pussy which made a series of lube assisted pussy farts to keep us amused and adding to the general sex cacophony in the small kino.
it finished off as these things always finish. i am always amazed at how something that is so thoroughly predictable as sex can keep us as a species so absolutely in it’s thrall. it was a good session, perhaps not top but i did enjoy the public fuck aspect and shiva was an enthusiastic, if slightly business like partner. i happily paid her her fee but i could not help mentioning to her that shiva was, in fact, a male indian deity. this did not seem to faze her in the least sweet girl.
once again i retreat to the sauna/pool for a drink and a long deserved rest on the wicker lounge chairs. at this point i guess i was thinking that i really should call it a night. it must have been about 21:30-22:00 and something told me that the evening might have peeked for me. but, never having been one to listen to good sense, i rested, had another short round of sauna and headed back up into the fray.
the upstairs bar was hopping. white robes and naked ladies everywhere. girls posed and lured. men tried to appear nonchalant but steadily succumbed to the enticement offered and there was a steady in and out of the front door of the bar and up the stairs that echoed the frantic activity that was taking place in the quickly turned over and out rooms in the upstairs of artemis. most of the girls seemed happy and there was a festive, if somewhat frantic mood to the room.
angus took his place once again at the bar and tried to decide what, or who, to do next.
the english language, while on the whole a wonderfully rich and descriptive language, does have it’s holes and places where words fail to describe our experience. perhaps the best example of this is the word “love”. such a rich and varied experience, one that most of us grapple with for out entire life, and one word to describe the experience. another place that i find that the english language fails me is in describing the various states of consciousness that i find myself in day by day.
here i was, good sense telling me to leave, call it a night, but it was as if i was stuck, trapped like a fly on flypaper in that bar and i could not for the life of me listen to my more intelligent, rational self, hit the locker rooms, take a final shower and head for the s-bahn and home to my own bed.
i imagine that this may be what the consciousness would experience were it to be so unfortunate as to fall into the clutches of an interstellar black-hole. the body would surely be crushed. but perhaps the consciousness would experience that unspecific longing and unanswerable want that i was experiencing in the bar. the event horizon always just out of reach, seeing what you want and where you want to get to, but as you move towards it it surely recedes and the disappears in a puff, only to reappear just outside you grasp swaying enticingly, beckoning you over further, more surely into the dark abyss.
at some point i figure that one might as well surrender to the experience of being trapped in amber. so i started to prowl and feed the neurosis that assured me that somewhere in this bar was a girl who would satisfy my hunger and bring my restless soul to peace.
in fact i had two girls in mind, both of whom i had seen earlier and both of whom were no no where to be found. the first was a petite, young looking girl who could have been turkish or perhaps middle eastern. i had spied her earlier at the bar and was captivated by her small girlish breasts and the prominent sacral dimples on her lower back.
the second was a polish girl who i had met briefly on the stairs my first few minutes at the club and had assured that we would meet again later. she had a real “girl next door”look to her, no make up, a cute round bum and a serious pair of puffy nipples that i dearly wanted to get my hands and mouth on.
but she was no where to be seen. oh the injustice of it all!!
i prowled some more, sat at the bar, fended off easily the sharks who were not so hungry tonight, and drank an endless stream of cokes and mineral water with the occasional coffee. time passed and while tempted a couple of times to settle for one of the similarly prowling girls i stuck to my vision of one of these two girls and perhaps this was a mistake.
i did eventually see the turkish girl again and figured out that she herself seemed to be pretty fixated upon a couple of well muscled and tattooed turkish men who, i think, were tag teaming her in the kino.
the polish girl never did reappear.
finally i gave up on the idea and started to look for a suitable replacement. now i have to admit here that old angus has a weakness for severely skanky looking girls at times. this is not the sum total of my tastes but every once in a while i like to find a girl who looks down right whorish. these girls are usually, in the light of day, not all that good looking. and invariably they will be wearing way too much make up. but i spied one making her way around the bar and my interest was peaked.
she was perfect. tall (well with 6 inch heeled thigh high spiked white boots on), very skinny, small breasts, tiny bum, big puffy lip-glossed lips, way to much eye make-up, a net string skirt that, when she stood right, with some light behind her ,you could see a prominent pair of pussy lips hanging between her legs, and a small tramp stamp on her lower back. as i said-angus’ skank dream come true.
she stood near to me, i smiled and over she came. we were off to the races. i was under no illusions here. for me this was to be a purely optic fuck and i was not expecting too much from her in the way of performance. but i was pleasantly mistaken.
jessica is bulgarian and she was a surprisingly nice, if not a very present, companion. after a couple of minutes small talk, i myself suggested that we head for a room. i wanted to fuck her not talk to her. as it turned out we had to wait for a room and we did spend some time (10 minutes) in the hallway outside the downstairs kino rooms, chatting and with me feeling up her tiny, pert bum and suckling on her nipples.
in the room it was a bit of a hurried session (couples stacked up in the hallway) but i got to perve out on jessica’s bum, received a very competent deep-ish bj, give her pussy a thorough licking, had her diddle her own pussy while i watched and finally gave her a forceful fuck from behind with some very light ass play
in short-i got exactly what i wanted and was well satisfied with my optic and final fuck of the evening that released me from the artemis space time continuum and had me headed for a final shower and the out into the dark night to crawl home on a late night s-bahn and into bed where i was asleep as soon as my head hit the pillow.
so in the end what is my verdict on artemis, saturday night? i would have to say mixed. it certainly does have it’s advantages as the girls are all busy and happy and doing what they are there to do-fuck and make money. there seems to be less pressure on one of these nights and the sharks are all well fed and thus easy to recognize and easy to fend off. in fact they can even be fun to play a bit with as you sit and wait for just the right girl to show up.
on the down side though the right girl, if she happens to be popular (the polish “girl next door”), can easily disappear into the crowd and leave you with a “one that got away” feeling. also i did notice that by late in the evening the rooms, not the upstairs room but the ones by the kino, were rather well used and were not really being cleaned in any apparent way between sessions. yuck! you really have to suspend a normal sense of cleanliness here and realize the harsh truth and reality that the wet spot you feel as you roll accidentally off the smallish torn bits of sheet that the girls use to cover the beds, is in fact, at best, some other girl’s sexual fluids, and at worse, some other guy’s jism that has been spilled on the bed sometime in the last hour. as i say-yuck-and best not to think about it too, too much. but to take a long hot shower immediately after.
hope this does not ruin it for anyone. it is a fact of a busy fkk i would say and it is a poor soldier who will not fight a bloody battle.
over and out and until next time-hope you enjoyed reading.
am
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Great report Angus, was wondering if you could guess how many women were working on both of your visits? Was the lineup better the second time around? Any wait's for a room?
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[QUOTE=Breadman]Great report Angus, was wondering if you could guess how many women were working on both of your visits? Was the lineup better the second time around? Any wait's for a room?[/QUOTE]
Hard to say. I would guess both time were about the same, maybe 40 women working. Maybe a few more last night. But that is a pretty rough guess.
Over all I did not see that much difference in the quality of women. Though the second visit, Saturday night, there did seem to more of the very large, silicone enhanced ladies present.
And yes, both nights, later in the evening a room wait was required, The first time we went to the downstairs kino and found a more or less private (curtain instead of a door and open ceiling) room, the second night was with Jessica the Bulgarian skank (and I mean that in the nicest way) who I snogged in the hallway while waiting for the same room.
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Artemis - Day 1
After learning about the Berlin scene from this forum, I had a four week stay in Berlin and got to try out many of the places. I made it to Artemis three times, so here's my report on Artemis, with the other places in the Berlin thread.
I guess pretty a lot of what you need to know has been said here, so i'll try to focus on some things that I didn't read about here.
Artemis was the second FKK club I've been to, with the first being many years ago in Cologne. Since then I've mainly been to the Spanish and Czech style nightclubs where you can hang out at the bar or at a table and get to know the girls over a few drinks before you decide who to go with.
So the downside of Artemis in comparison to the nightclubs is that you don't really sit around and drink with the girls, unless you pay for their time that they spend drinking with you, and each time I did see a guy curled up with a little hottie, with a bottle of champagne on the table. So some guys do go that route. Mind you, although the soft drinks are free, and the alcoholic drinks cost 10€ each for a beer or a tiny cocktail, not paying for girls drinks makes for a cheaper experience overall. But that element is something I miss in Artemis.
My visits: The first time was a Tuesday night, good ratio of guys to girls with good quality of girls. I sat at the bar and immediately met a Czech girl with glasses who was happy to talk and didn't put any pressure on me to go to the room. So after awhile i wondered around a bit and while there were some "sharks" I've never considered them a nuisance. The girl comes and asks you to go with her, you say no, I'm not interested. That gets rid of 2/3 of them and for the persistant ones, I just say, i have no money or I just came out of the room and need to rest, or i'm looking for whatever is the opposite of them, (blond vs brunette, tall vs short, etc). The only girls i find annoying are the ones who see you already with a girl and ask to join in for a duo. No respect! On my 3rd visit there was a girl like that from Ukraine who wouldn't quit, but i'll get to that later.
So i went back to the Czech and now she had her Czech friends with her. One was the little darker complexion girl sitting at the bar who looks like she is a teenager (i think the one that angus mentioned). She is from Slovakia, maybe Gypsy. The Czech girl told me she was 23 but one of her other friends told me after that she was 19. Once I had a feel for the place i went up with the Czech girl. She was quite good, but she stripped down to completelu naked except for her glasses, took my dick and was about to start sucking, when I asked her, do you really need those, and took the glasses off for her :-) But she was very good doing owo and suggesting positions and pretty much doing everything she could to make sure i was happy. When she finished she said, let me know if you want to go up again later.
So back at the bar, i tried to buy a cocktail, but they told me i had to go to the reception and by a token. So i went out, bought a few tokens and sat down at the bar to survey the scene. It is really quite something with all the topless beauties, some completely naked too.
Finally i got stopped by a pair of girls who asked me if i wanted a duo. Neither was anything special, but they asked me to go in the cinema and I liked their approach. So I sat down with one on either side and immediately noticed the girl in the row in front of us going down on her guy. So I asked one girl if she could do that, she said OK and started to suck away. Then the 2nd one tried to get in on it and i said wait, i'm only paying one of you! So she got up and left with out any further comment. The one who stayed was a Polish girl who told me she was a student in mathematics and that after two more weeks she would be returning to school (it was early september). After a few minutes in the cinema i was postively warmed up, so we went into one of the rooms right next to the cinema and finished up.
After another drink she came back to hang out with me again and just stayed around talking. So thinking that she wanted to be social, i said let's go into the cinema again and you can suck me, but i have no money left. I didn't expect her to agree, because from my nightclub experiences in other countries, what happens in the room is what you pay for, and anything that happens before you go in the room is just marketing. But she said OK!
So we went into the upstairs cinema and it was pretty empty except for a girl who had been sitting across from me at the dinner table getting done in public in the back row. So the Polish girl goes down on me and some Russian guys keep sticking their heads through the cinema doorway to watch, so she said let's make a show for them, i said no i told you, i don't want anymore, and i have no more money, so she just said come on and put on a condom and got on! Well i have to give her credit, she really performed much better with the three guys watching and when we finished she wanted to get paid, in spite of what i had told her.
So I guess that is what is meant by FKK etiquette, if you let the girl go down on you, you must pay no matter what else happened before or after. I said, you didn't tell me i had to pay, and she said, i will call security with a big smile! So I went to Mr ATM and ponied up and felt good doing it. But she knew i was a newbie and took advantage of the situation. I guess that's something to look out for if you're not used to FKKs, but are used to girls giving you a little bit of extras sometimes. As I was to find out later, in Artemis, nothing is free and sometimes if you are not willing to stand your ground, you can end up paying for what you don't really want.
All in all that first night cost me 250EUR + 30 more for the taxi. But I considered it an evening well spent.
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Artemis - Day 2
Day 2: I was dying to get back to Artemis again, so two weeks later I was there again, this time on a Monday night. I think I arrived around 11PM and this time the ratio was not so good at all but I immediately spotted a tall, 1m78, blond beauty with a perfect body. She was one of the few Germans working in the club. I saw her lounging on a sofa all alone and asked if I could sit and talk to her and she said no. No further comment. So I went to the bar, spotted the Czech girl from my first visit, said Hello to her and her teenage Slovakian friend (who seemed glued to the same seat she was in at the leading edge of the bar on my first visit) and just noticed that Monday was not a good night at all. Nobody really caught my interest.
After about half an hour the killer German babe walked up to the bar and I asked her if she wanted to go upstairs and she said, no I am too tired! She went and stood at the top of the 3 stairs going to the little lounge area and just looked around. That's the problem with a really beautiful girl in an FKK, I think. If you don't get there early, by the time you get to her, she'll already be exhausted. But not to be put off, I told the Czech girl to ask the German if she wanted to go up for a trio. The hot German immediately agreed.
Here's another point where I'm not sure about the FKK etiquette. These girls told me one pop for 30 minutes. I said one pop each? And they said, no just one total. And I said I can do both of you? And they said, yes but only one finish. (on my 3rd visit two polish girls offered me a duo for 30minutes - which i didn't accept - with one finish in each of them, but they could have been lying, they were promising kissing, cum in mouth and one pop each without mentioning any extra costs)
Well, after we had all got naked, the German babe was not looking tired at all anymore and I guess the Czech noticed the sparks flying and was more than a little bit jealous. So while I was lying on my back she starts to suck me while I am just exploring the German’s hot body, but she had me in her fist and wouldn't stop until I had cum in her mouth which was not at all hard to do considering the goddess I had lying in front of me. But the Czech looked at me with a big smile and said, OK finished!
So I said i want to do her and pointed to the German. And the German said, OK 60EUR more for both of us. So I said we’ll see. We talked a bit and the German turned out to be “Jane” a 24yo student from Hamburg. She said she needed to work until the end of September and then she would have enough money to pay for school. Jane was really hot. I had been quite satisfied with the Czech on my first visit, but with jane lying next to her it was like a VW next to a Ferrari.
After the first 30min were up, I told the Czech I only wanted the German and she said OK, go take a shower and then come back. So I did, I came back and they were waiting. So once I got back, after the 30min waiting for that perfect 10, I immediately jumped on Jane and started going and jane seemed equally into it. I had just assumed the Czech girl would be dressing and getting ready to leave, but then I noticed that the Czech was still sitting there watching. So I stopped and said, I told you that I only want her (Jane) this time! I don’t remember what the Czech said, but she had some reason why I had to pay her too. I said OK if you stay you have to f… She just shook her head and said, NO, I will just watch. So Jane, who had been looking at her in shock, because she knew that I told the Czech to leave, just told her in German (which I understood but they didn’t know because I was only speaking English), that if she stayed she had to do what I wanted. So then Jane turned to me and said, OK you can fuck both of us, but you just have to control it this time! By now smiley was limp, so I stood up in front of Jane, seated on the edge of the bed (which in that room was on a raised platform) and she went at it like a champ, fast and wet with growling. So since the Czech was being mercenary I decided to let her be jealous and really got down to it with Jane who gave 110%. After I finished up fucking her standing from behind while she was bent over the raised bed, the Czech lied down on her back doggie-style spread open her pussy and said, come on come on take it! But I was rather disgusted with her, so I just let her suck me which didn’t work too well at that point. I ended up paying them 120EUR each, and I would do it again in a second. Jane would have been worth it for double that price. She was one of my best ever pay for plays. And while the Czech did pull a fast one, I guess you could argue that normally I would have had to pay 50€ extra for the cum in mouth, but she knew I didn’t ask for it. And she didn’t ask for any extra money either.
The moral of the second day in Artemis was, leave the ATM card at home, because you’ll always end up spending more than you planned in that place.
Day 3 tomorrow.
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Atemis report
Riposte to Angus’ report:
Great report much of which I can empathise with but I found it especially interesting as I was actually there on Saturday night. It was my third visit – I did 2 in early September. I had originally intended to go on Sunday evening but my hotel was only 15 mins away and though I arrived there at10.30 in the evening it was too tempting. I arrived about about 10.45 and the place was heaving mainly with Italian men. Perhaps there was a Messe on. I found it quite unpleasant changing.
As I was ravenous I went straight to eat. I take your point about the food being heavy and I find I need at least 30 mins before I could consider performing having had a heavy meal. After I eaten I walked around and had a few drinks. The place was heaving with guys so I was pestered by few girls and it was obvious looking up the stairwell that there was a queue for the rooms. But just to see the girls most of whom were completely naked and most v. sexy made the visit worth while.
The kino (especially the upper one) was a good place to go not to look at the porno films but to see the life sex going on. If you go to the kino expect to be approached by the girls. After about 2 hours the place was thinning out and I needed a shag and I decided on the woman I wanted to go with – she was a girl next door type with a beautiful peachy arse which I particular appreciate. I saw her going into the kino and went in but she had already saddled up to some guy with whom she was engaged.
I thought I would wait until she became available so I sat on one of the beds. I had not been there long before I looked up in the semi-darkness and there was a face looking at me. She looked at me and said: “I’ve been with you twice before and I’m Hungarian”. I then recognised her and said: “you’re Fana”. Now I know Fana hasn’t had the best of presses in this room and she is a bit of a shark but she is a nice girl, has a lovely figure and is a good performer, and for those who don’t speak German she speaks very good English and is very friendly. That’s the problem does this girl talk and beside I like to try out different girls! She said I’ll come back in a few minutes for you and she did and I really wanted her. Great session – first she warmed me up and then a great bbbj, then mish followed by doggie. It was a fantastic session – for someone who is quite shy to be performing in a public space like this was a novelty not one that I was totally at ease with but I was too in into the sex. And I really enjoyed. After that I decided to call it a day and went back to my hotel.
I made my second visit the next day on Sunday arriving about 8 with the intention of staying about 3 hours and having 2 girls. This time I intended to hit the ground running. Though I was approached by several girls, I eventually saw this woman sitting on the opposite side of the bar and was she beautiful. I would say about 25, blond beautiful face with a fabulous figure which gave me the most massive hard on. She was obviously one of the Queen Bees in the place and she didn’t actively seek out customers. I caught her eye and went up to her and asked whether she was free. I had no intention of loosing her. She said “yes” and put out her cigarette. Up we went to go to a room. Her name was Sonya and she is Russian. Really beautiful. She asked me whether I wanted cim but I said normal sex. I really wanted to fuck her. There was a quick bbbj and then I went into doggie. It took me about 10 mins to come but boy was this woman sexy. Eventually I came and my heart was thumbing.
I then ate and went downstairs to rest which I tried to do but I found myself prowling. And then I saw that beautiful peachy arse again coming out of the kino (the woman I had seen the night before) and I knew I had to have her. She was walking clockwise around the bar so I went the other way by which time she had sat down. I caught her eye, got a smile and walked up to her and she said did I want sex. She told she had seen me in the kino area early in the morning. We went up to the room and my hands were already over her especially over that peachy arse. Her name was Jana and she came from the Ukraine. The only word I can use to describe this woman is superb. She allowed kissing and got me warmed up first – a truly gfe experience. It was probably 10 mins before we started bbbj and was this woman fantastic. And what a glorious figure! I then took her in doggie. I always find the second fuck the best but I eventually I came with the most intense hard orgasm. It was one of the best sex sessions I have had in my life. After that I decided I felt totally satisfied and went back to my hotel. Put on the alarm for 7 and got the 9.30 plane back to UK this morning.
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The really dangerous variety of shark...
[QUOTE=Angus Magee]One good thing about the obvious sharks is that they are, well, so obvious. As annoying as it may be fending them off at least you know where they are at.[/QUOTE]
... only shows her teeth when you are in the room.
If she is overly aggressive in the Kontakzimmer then that is fine. You can spot her a mile away and you know to avoid her.
Its the ones who are sweet and demure outside who are all business inside the room to watch out for. Its like Dr. Jeckle and Mr. Hyde. Their mood changes. She takes a rubber band to tie her hair up and she goes into a routine: "You lie down. I will now do a BJ. Then you will get on top of me. And then after you come, I will make the bed and we will go outside so I can get paid." They go into upsell mode until they are in the room. You are committed.
Is there a way to spot these women? Probably not. I usually can tell though she is like this within ten seconds of entering a room but by then its too late. I try to break up her routine and her rythmn. I like intensive foreplay and if she wants to skip the foreplay aspect, I know she's got a process in mind and damn if I am going to change that process! If she reacts positively, then fine. If not, then I just sit back and make a mental note not to book her again.
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Indeed it happens...
the only "answer', in my opinion, to the undercover shark that hides it until the room (fortunately I have met very,very few in the zimmer, touch wood), is to practice Sperm management, enjoy yourself as best as you can, NOT get taken for any upsell and exit gracefully paying the contracted amount.
Immediately, write it off mentally and positively as having saved you from spending more on her with upsells, have a drink, and start scanning for pastures green. Every home run hitter knows that he will take a strike or two during the game but tries to minimize them. Same in FKK Land.
E.
[QUOTE=Jackyo]... only shows her teeth when you are in the room.
If she is overly aggressive in the Kontakzimmer then that is fine. You can spot her a mile away and you know to avoid her.
Its the ones who are sweet and demure outside who are all business inside the room to watch out for. Its like Dr. Jeckle and Mr. Hyde. Their mood changes. She takes a rubber band to tie her hair up and she goes into a routine: "You lie down. I will now do a BJ. Then you will get on top of me. And then after you come, I will make the bed and we will go outside so I can get paid." They go into upsell mode until they are in the room. You are committed.
Is there a way to spot these women? Probably not. I usually can tell though she is like this within ten seconds of entering a room but by then its too late. I try to break up her routine and her rythmn. I like intensive foreplay and if she wants to skip the foreplay aspect, I know she's got a process in mind and damn if I am going to change that process! If she reacts positively, then fine. If not, then I just sit back and make a mental note not to book her again.[/QUOTE]
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I have been in artemis for the fisrt time in middle November.
I had company with Maya of Poland, Sonia of Russia, Alissa of Poland, Losi of Burgaria. I saw some ex Frankfurt girls, for exemple, a very short dyed blonde Romanian. The problem of this place is the main lauge is too too too mauch smoky. I cannot be relux there. The dawn stair is in clean air and comfortale relaxing mood.
wbs
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[QUOTE=West By Sun]I have been in artemis for the fisrt time in middle November.
The problem of this place is the main lauge is too too too mauch smoky. I cannot be relux there. The dawn stair is in clean air and comfortale relaxing mood.
wbs[/QUOTE]Yes you are right but few girls dowstairs the best place to be in Artemis is to stand up at the entrance of the smoky bar in front of the 2 poker machine, in this place you can see all the girls coming back from the rooms, going down to the kino, believe me ;-D
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Hi all!
I tried to search the forum for some information how the line up is around december. I saw a post from Angus Magee that he thought there should be som new girls during the december. I would like to know what you all think is the best (hot girls) time to spend in Berlin end of a weekend? 11-14 december or maybe later in januari like 15-17?
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similar question to Kid Icarus
Hi,
I was thinking of going to Artemis again. What would be better? This weekend--Dec.6 or in two weeks that is Dec.20. I will be out in the intervening week. My concern is that the chicas may have gone on holidays!
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[quote=rogerpaul]hi,
i was thinking of going to artemis again. what would be better? this weekend--dec.6 or in two weeks that is dec.20. i will be out in the intervening week. my concern is that the chicas may have gone on holidays![/quote]so im not alone thinking about this.
of course there will always be som hot chicks depending about what we like and dont and whos asking. but there must be som peeks and downs even in this business. i hope some godfather here can tell us =)
but artemis is artemis, because its in berlin, maybe there are not any down periods.
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[quote=kid icarus]so im not alone thinking about this.
of course there will always be som hot chicks depending about what we like and dont and whos asking. but there must be som peeks and downs even in this business. i hope some godfather here can tell us =)
but artemis is artemis, because its in berlin, maybe there are not any down periods.[/quote]i think its a safe assumption that some of the girls will have gone back home by december 20. i know many of my favorite girls are planning to leave mid december and stay away until early/mid january. but unless you have specific girls you wanted to see, either weekend (6th or 20th) should be fine.
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4th Artemis visit
I returned to Artemis for my 4th visit today and was a little disappointed.
It may have been due to the bad weather or it may just be that I have not visited on a Wednesday before.
On arrival in the mid afternoon there were not very many girls there (maybe 15) and the male/female ratio was bout 3 to 1. Not only that I had forgotten that I had read on here somewhere that Wednesday's is a lingerie day so there was less bare flesh to be seen. Actually in some ways that is not true as it must have been large girls day also as most were quite buxom and not really my type
I first relaxed with a sauna and a couple of drinks before being entranced by Lekkie (not sure if that is the correct spelling) from Thailand. She gave me a wonderful 10 minute massage followed by some heavenly sex in 69, doggie and all prefaced by some incredible BBBJ.
I then spent some more time in the sauna and relaxing by the pool before meeting Ena form Hungary in the kino. We petted and she gave me some BBBJ in the kino before we retired to a room where she was not as good as Lekkie as she claimed that she was very sensitive to the touch so we only performed very limited DATY and tit sucking but riding her doggie was a really good experience.
I don't know whether I should post it here or perhaps in the Berlin thread, but later this evening I tried La Folie for the first time. I thought I had made a big mistake when I realised that none of the girls spoke English and my German is non existant. However I got into a weird English/German conversation with Marie and Bianca, eventually asking Bianca who was not a particularly stunning brunette to go to a room with me. WOW! That was my best decision of the day. She is a little belter. We romped around the bed in numerous positions and actually had more than the allotted 30 minutes without extra charge. We retired to the bar where she wanted to continue to cuddle and kiss at the expense of only a piccolo at 19 euros. I will most definitely be going back there given the chance to see if I can learn some more German or to teach Bianca some more English.
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Messe and Artemis
Hi,
The trip I had was cancelled and I will be free on the 12th. However, there is a Messe ([url]www.berlin-messe.de[/url]). Is this the infamous messe that makes Artemis crowded? In case it is how bad is it? Does it make sense to go in the afternoon of a messe day?
Cheers,
Roger
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Wrong web site
Hi,
I made a mistake with the net site. Here is the right one.
[url]http://www1.messe-berlin.de/vip8_1/website/Internet/Internet/www.messe-berlin/englisch/index.html[/url]
Roger
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A brief Artemis Report
Went this evening (6th Dec) which is St Nicklaus day here in Germany. And to celebrate that, upon arriving and paying your money at reception, I was asked to roll some dice and what ever combination you got you won a prize - I won two free alcoholic drinks! (Normally €10 each).
The club has got it's Christmas decorations up and all the girls were wearing Christmas themed lingerie. (So lots of santa hats red thongs and red bras)
The ratio seemed to be very good tonight, though for me the quality wasn't quite as good - quite a few older ladies, and a lot of sharks. Got approached way more than I have in the past. (I think this is my 5th visit in about a 18 month period.)
For me, I like to sit on a sofa and watch for a while before making my choice. There was one cute small blonde (my thing) that I kept my eye on. After about 90 minutes (and turning down 8 to 10 approaches) I went for a wander and found her sitting on the arm of a sofa. A brief chat and introduction of names and we were heading upstairs. Normally I like to have a bit of a chat before going up, but not tonight.
There were quite a few rooms free.
Martina from Hungry.
For my preferences she was perfect. Small - maybe 5'2" long blonde hair, cute little bum, with pert size B breasts.
Once in the room and we were on the bed, she asked how long for, and I asked for 30 mins, There was no attempt to get me to go for an hour which was good. She got out some massage oil and told me that she'd give me a massage at the end, even if we went over the 30 mins.
She was very happy to kiss (which I like) so we did, and soon I was DATY which was great. She seemed to be getting really into it, and was pushing my head into her crotch. Great.
A bit of an odd BBBJ followed, which she would bob furiously for 10 seconds then stop and stare at me for 5 seconds then go back to it.
Anyway the condom went on - her on top for a bit, then me on top and then finished from behind. It looked amazing and did the trick.
This had taken about 20 minutes, and she then delivered on a great massage, really working on some of the knots in my back.
After paying up and getting quite a deep kiss by the lockers, I had a shower, then headed downstairs for my other free beer and a collapse on the sofa. Now it's non smoking down stairs it has made it a much nicer area, and I was left alone.
Instead of falling asleep on the sofa I headed back to my hotel.
An excellent trip.
I've got better at turning the sharks down now - some times they can be quite persistant, I think the trick is to say 'No I'm relaxing' or whatever very quickly. Unless she's floating your boat of course.
The rolling the dice thing was a nice touch too, and I did enjoy having a beer. (As I wouldn't normally pay €10 for a beer)
Hope this is of some interest.
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Hey, Has Bean
Martina, Hungary: great choice. See #357 below. Great to know she's still there.
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[QUOTE=Toscana]Martina, Hungary: great choice. See #357 below. Great to know she's still there.[/QUOTE]I will look it up. Thanks!
[QUOTE=Has Bean]The rolling the dice thing was a nice touch too, and I did enjoy having a beer.[QUOTE]What else could you win?
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If anybody is in town and thinking about and Artemis visit tomorrow let me know. Perhaps we can hook up for a chat between ladies & sauna.
Let me know here or via pm.
AM
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Saturday night
I paid another visit to Artemis this weekend (Saturday night) for a pre-christmas treat. It was the christmas party night at Artemis, which meant that all the girls were dressed in some sort of christmas attire, heavily concentrated on the naughty christmas elf.
I have to say that I found the line up this evening to be a bit disappointing. There seemed to be a high number of okay looking blonds. Girls who look okay at about 2 meters but when closer just seem to lose their appeal. Perhaps though it was the costumes which gave a sort of sameness to all the girls, and many of them simply do not look that great in red. Or perhaps it was just my typical christmas season mood of slight depression.
I did manage to meet up with fellow ISG member DkFatBastard at around 20:00 and spent a nice time with him in the downstairs bar comparing notes about the Berlin scene. He gave me a positive tip regarding Valentina @ KD that I plan to follow up on.
So at a round 20:30 I headed off in search of Giselle who I have been with on a previous visit and had decided to repeat with as she struck me last time as a very nice and sexually forward young lady. I had run into her earlier in the evening on the stairs with a promise to meet up later.
I cooled my heels for some time at the bar, fending off the ladies who were rather at loose ends as the was a higher ratio of men to ladies than I imagine is really good for their business. I had a chat and a cuddle on the couch with Shiva, who I have written about before, but was not tempted (more than just a wee bit) to carry through with a session. I have to say, to her credit, Shiva asked me at least 4 times last night if I was ready to have some fun with her and each time I made my excuses. She took my rebuff each time with grace and just said-well maybe later. A very nice and competent provider I just was not in the mood for her last night. You can see pictures of Shiva on the Artemis website.
At last I spotted Giselle and we went immediately to a room upstairs. I told her that I wanted to spend an hour together, which seemed to please her and very soon we were naked on the bed together. The only slight dampener was a rather huge bandage she wore on the upper part of her right breast to protect where she recently had a tattoo laser-ed off. No big deal but it was unsightly.
Otherwise the session was absolutely top notch. This girl like to be licked and she also gives a magnificent bj, wet, drool-y and reasonably deep, the later being her only area of possible improvement. And having indicated an hour session I found her to be very generous with the time. After and extended mutual fuck and suck (little Angus was literally swimming in her saliva) we lay together for a while and she gave me a massage that soon turned into more blow job (I did not have to ask!) and finally another deep licking. At the end of what seemed more like 1.5 hrs. I was completely satisfied and happily paid her
120 €.
I hung in for a while longer but nobody really caught my interest and so I left at around midnight. It was a good evening, pulled from obscurity by the lovely Giselle who I will most definitely be visiting again. She works regularly but (I believe) mostly on Friday and/or Saturday evening.
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Hi,
I'm planning to travel to Berlin and from there possibly other German cities in early January, and while in Berlin I want to pay Artemis a first-time visit (actually it'll be a first-time with FKK in general! ) Before doing so, however, I've got some questions I hope to be able to get answered:
1. How does the S-bahn system work in Germany? I've seen some people say take S7(? ) to Westkreuz, but where is that and how do you get to Artemis from there?
2. Some people mention "sharks" in their reports. I kinda get the feeling what they are, but I'd like to know an experienced ISG: er's explanation and how to avoid them.
3. Where and what is the kino? : p Or is it something I'll simply have to see for myself?
4. Is it common for the girls to give GFE? And I also see some people describing [French] kissing and licking the girls, or the girls giving a BBBJ. Are these things common in Artemis and other FKK clubs?
Thanks very much!
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Rekarn, to answer your questions
To get to Artemis by S bahn train you can take 4 different trains S5, S7, S75, S9 going west. You get out at the station Westkreuz. Follow exit signs for Halensee strasse. When outside the station on Halensee strasse take a left and then walk for about 100m. Artemis will be on your left, it has a large red sign saying Artemis so you really can't miss it once you're near to it. I advise either before you get to Berlin or when you arrive at the airport get a map which also includes the S and U bahn train networks. When you look at the map it will be pretty straight forward.
For Artemis cost is €70 entry which includes use of all facilities such as buffet, pool, sauna, free soft drinks at bar etc. Cost for CFS in multiple positions is €60 for half hour. That should include BBBJ as standard. A GFE and DFK really depends on the chemistry between you and the girl, she is not obliged to give it. CIM is €50 extra, anal is €50 extra, I never go for these extras.
A shark is a slang word for a girl who is only after your money and is not interested if you end up having a good time or not. Generally sharks will be agressive although some may only turn out to be sharks once in the room. Generally though if you are careful you will end up with good girls. Try to concentrate on the girls who are non pushy and friendly and not the up front ones.
Kino is german for cinema (I think). Artemis has two small sex kinos showing porn (pretty low end porn). Some people like to screw in the kino for the view of other people.
Hope I helped you, happy hunting.
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[QUOTE=Rekarn]
2. Some people mention "sharks" in their reports. I kinda get the feeling what they are, but I'd like to know an experienced ISG: er's explanation and how to avoid them.
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I would say that the shark type FKK provider are a fact of life if you are going to enter the The FKK environment. Some (many?) of the women you will find at an FKK are there to make money, have a bit of fun and enjoy the sex. Others are there just to make money while giving back as little as they possibly can while up selling (extras) as much as possible. Fortunately we, as customers, have the advantage of being able to observe the women before we make our choice of who to spend time with. Thus I would say that the best advise anyone can give you as a newbie is to spend some time observing a girls behavior before you agree to go to the room with her.
This can be quite challenging when you find yourself for the first time surrounded by beautiful, mostly naked women all competing for you attention and all trying to get you to spend private time with them in a room.
Other than observation there are no real set rules on how to avoid the sharks. Generally it is better for you to approach the woman that interests you rather than waiting to be approached. That being said, I have also had some very nice sessions with women who approached me. So nothing is set in stone.
One thing to try is that if a woman does approach you, talk with her for a bit and when she suggests that you go to a room say that you are not ready yet. You can gauge a lot from her reaction to this news. An easy, “well perhaps later”, is a good sign. If she seems to get annoyed and tries to convince you, beware. It really helps to speak at least basic German.
Finding the right woman at an FKK takes a bit of perseverance. It is an investment in both time and money. There is a learning curve and you have to expect to make some mistakes at first. The important thing is to realize this and if you do end up with a shark (hopefully you realize early and don’t shell out too much cash for extras) just take the hit, pay the fee and carry on. Chalk it up to experience.
Unfortunately, many of these women (sharks) are very experienced at what they do and do, I believe, notice who is new and not a local, and target these men. Fortunately, though they are experienced, they are also very often also quite obvious. For me one encounter with a shark was enough to get the warning signs and now I find them pretty easy to avoid.
BTW-the cost for anal at Artemis is, I believe, 100 euros and not 50 as Mac75 wrote below. In any case there are price lists on display in the dressing rooms that give a complete run down on services and prices. Personally I find that the cost of extras at Artemis are simply not worth it. A good anal session can be had for half (or less) that price. I like to find a good, enthusiastic woman and extend the regular session. I find that much more satisfying. But this is a personal preference.
Hope that you have fun and remember to write at least a short report as a way of giving back for the info you get here on ISG.
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To answer your questions
[QUOTE=Rekarn]Hi,
I'm planning to travel to Berlin and from there possibly other German cities in early January, and while in Berlin I want to pay Artemis a first-time visit (actually it'll be a first-time with FKK in general! ) Before doing so, however, I've got some questions I hope to be able to get answered:
1. How does the S-bahn system work in Germany? I've seen some people say take S7(? ) to Westkreuz, but where is that and how do you get to Artemis from there?
2. Some people mention "sharks" in their reports. I kinda get the feeling what they are, but I'd like to know an experienced ISG: er's explanation and how to avoid them.
3. Where and what is the kino? : p Or is it something I'll simply have to see for myself?
4. Is it common for the girls to give GFE? And I also see some people describing [French] kissing and licking the girls, or the girls giving a BBBJ. Are these things common in Artemis and other FKK clubs?
Thanks very much![/QUOTE]
1) You buy a ticket and get on the train. Don't get on a train without a ticket. The system works on an honor system. Controls are random and infrequent but fines are hefty and its not worth it.
2) Sharks tend to prey on unsuspecting newbies and employ various methods to extract as much money as they can using upsell or trying to minimize the time in the room and/or the amount of work they actually do. Or if they deliver any services, its with all of the enthusiasm of someone flipping burgers at a fast food joint.
Some women will try to milk you like they would a cow. Its a process to them. They rub, tug and then you are supposed to come. "That will be 50 Euros please." Then on to the net victim. If you foil their plans, some will express their displeasure.
Beware of women who are too aggressive with self-marketing or those who are visually stunning but have no customers. Test for chemistry first before you commit. Don't make a choice within your first hour of entering a club. Sit first, observe. Interview her previous clients if you can.
3) A Kino is a movie theater. Berlin is known for its Sexkinos. You go to watch a porno and you can also avail of the services of the women who prowl the aisles. Very, very sleazy. The FKK clubs have tried to duplicate the practice by installing their own Kinos to appeal to those who want the Sexkino experience but in cleaner environment.
4) No. Some girls are naturally affectionate and eager to please. Others harbor hidden hostility to customers. Again: check for chemistry. These women are not machines.
They will generally react positively to you if you are well groomed, polite, well mannered, showered and don't have bad breath... and if she can understand you. Some women don't want to deal with clients they don't understand. I personally am not keen on women I can't communicate with no matter how exotic she may look.
If she genuinely enjoys your company, she will bend all sorts of rules such as not pay any attention to the time you spend together, z. B.
Again, my rules of thumb for testing chemistry are: 1) If you smile at her and she smiles back, you have a nibble on your line and you should go over and exchange a word or two with her. 2) If during that conversation you can make her laugh, you will probably have a good time with her and you should seriously consider a session.
These rules work, by the way, with professionals and non-professionals.
As we've described here before, you get to pro status in this hobby when you can cast a glance and smile at a chick across a room, cock your head and have her at your side in a few seconds. Its like fly casting. I'm still working on my technique. The trick is to doing this smoothly and seamlessly: broadcasting your interest to the right woman and reeling her in without a word being exchanged.
Don't ignore her body language. If she appears disinterested, it is because she is. You will only have yourself to blame if despite this signal, you persist in taking this to the next step.
Some women aren't cut out for this line of work. You would be best off avoiding those women.
In the end, women like being entertained, charmed and romanced whether they are pros or non-pros. So give her a good time and you will be rewarded with what guys like to call GFE. Treat her like the furniture and you shouldn't be surprised if you get treated the same way.
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[QUOTE=Jackyo]1) You buy a ticket and get on the train. Don't get on a train without a ticket. The system works on an honor system. Controls are random and infrequent but fines are hefty and its not worth it.[/QUOTE]
And don't forget to validate the ticket (stick it into the little box in the general vicinity of the machine you bought the ticket in and have it time/date stamped). When first in Berlin I had very little money and I used to think I could get away with having an unvalidated ticket, thus using the same ticket several times. This lasted until the first time I was controlled. The controllers, a very stern bunch, saw right through me I am sure. I argued with them for over a half an hour, claiming ignorance. They threatened the police, taking my passport (yeah-right) and finally let me off with a warning, kicking me from the system. It was all so unpleasant that I have never once since then travelled for free. Though I do occasionally travel by bus on a cheap short time ticket and go a few stops past the allowed 6 stops (three on the UBahn).
BTW Rekarn, if you have not already done so check out my post from a couple of months back of my first visit to Artemis.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=807930&postcount=413[/url]
I think it gives a pretty good sense of what it is like for a newbie trying to find the right girl in an FKK.
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Go there Tomorow
I am thinking to go in the Artemis tomorrow while I am visiting Berlin. Do you think guys will be a good idea or I will just lose money?
I will have only this opportunity to stay in Berlin, but I can also go in the OASYS that is near my house
Other questions.
How much extra is a BBBJ?
And
What is the Better time to go there?
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I'd like to thank everybody for their very detailed and informative answers, I really appreciate it. :) I'll definitely post a travel report when I get back from my trip. I have another small question I'd like to ask beforehand; are different positions (doggy, etc) included in the price or is it something you have to agree on before doing anything? And is there anything else I should see in Berlin in terms of FKK clubs or brothels?
[QUOTE=Angus Magee]BTW Rekarn, if you have not already done so check out my post from a couple of months back of my first visit to Artemis.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the link to your report, I found it really interesting and informative to read. So you buy the ticket in a little machine on the tram?
Thanks again everybody!
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[QUOTE=Rekarn]Hi,
I'm planning to travel to Berlin and from there possibly other German cities in early January, and while in Berlin I want to pay Artemis a first-time visit (actually it'll be a first-time with FKK in general! ) Before doing so, however, I've got some questions I hope to be able to get answered:
1. How does the S-bahn system work in Germany? I've seen some people say take S7(? ) to Westkreuz, but where is that and how do you get to Artemis from there?
2. Some people mention "sharks" in their reports. I kinda get the feeling what they are, but I'd like to know an experienced ISG: er's explanation and how to avoid them.
3. Where and what is the kino? : p Or is it something I'll simply have to see for myself?
4. Is it common for the girls to give GFE? And I also see some people describing [French] kissing and licking the girls, or the girls giving a BBBJ. Are these things common in Artemis and other FKK clubs?
Thanks very much![/QUOTE]Hi,
I went for the first time in October, and here are my answers.
If you are going by train get down at Berlin Hauptbanof (NOT Postdamerplatz) and take S7 going to Westkruz. The directions elsewhere on this site are very accurate after that.
To avoid sharks, I made a list from this site. I was thus able to avoid the sharks. All of whom approach you. I was approached by Bianca from Poland, Jana from Hamburg both of which I avoided. You can find details in my report on this site.
The kino is downstairs. If you are a bit shy to approcah it is a good place to lurk. With advance knowledge of the sharks, you can choose the girl you want to be with once they approach you. But definitely talk to them and see if you have a vibe.
Yes, if you avoid the sharks, these services are part of the standard experience. GFE will depend on your chemistry, but if you are well groomed and clean and friendly you should not have a problem.
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[QUOTE=Rekarn]I'd like to thank everybody for their very detailed and informative answers, I really appreciate it. :) I'll definitely post a travel report when I get back from my trip. I have another small question I'd like to ask beforehand; are different positions (doggy, etc) included in the price or is it something you have to agree on before doing anything? And is there anything else I should see in Berlin in terms of FKK clubs or brothels?
Thank you for the link to your report, I found it really interesting and informative to read. So you buy the ticket in a little machine on the tram?
Thanks again everybody![/QUOTE]
Hi,
I’ll answer the easy question first. Yes you buy tickets from machines either at the entrance or sometimes on the platform itself. Some of the machines take bills but I always try to have coins as it is always easier and faster. Bigger stations will some times also have ticket selling windows during business hours.
Here is a link to the BVG (Transit Berlin) web site. It can be of help in planning trips etc. and it is in English.
[url]http://www.bvg.de/index.php/en/Bvg/Start[/url]
I would strongly suggest that you spend some more time reading the thread. Maybe you have, but from you questions I get the sense that you have not explored that much. The past reports are a gold mine of info, tricks and tips. And don’t limit yourself just to the Artemis board. For instance, on the FKK Palace board there is, I believe, a rather spirited discussion on sharks, how to recognize them, how to avoid them and what the species really is. Opinions often differ.
FKK is, I believe, quite different from other forms of mongering. To get the most from it you have to arm yourself with as much information as possible. And then just go and have the experience, make your mistakes and enjoy. It can be a lot of fun flirting with the girls and it is definitely a challenge to find the girl that really floats your boat and gives you the ever elusive GFE.
Which leads to your next question. Included in the 60 euro fee is 1/2 hr. of sex including bbbj and sometimes kissing. The kissing seems to be more discretionary i.e. how well do you get along with the girl. Perhaps you could demand that she kiss you but then what sort of kiss would that be. Personally I always find kissing to be rather more intimate than fucking and unless the girl is into it, why bother.
As for positions and position changes, again I think that this has more to do with your “click” with the girl and I guess your own skill and “game”. That is, I do not believe that there are any hard, fast rules here. If the girl you chose is good at her job she will want to see you have a good time and as long as you don’t want anything too, too intense (reverse, upside down pile driver might not be included) I am pretty sure that you will be accommodated.
I think that what you have to remember with an FKK girl is that many of them are there to have fun and good sex, as well as make money. Treat her as you would a casual date: Don’t assume things, be polite, clean (easy in an FKK, take a tooth brush and tooth paste), ask clearly for what you want, tune into her and notice what works for her, what gets her wet(hopefully) and be a gentleman. You will most likely then have a good time and, if you really connect, a really nice GFE.
As for other P4P in Berlin-again I would suggest that you spend some time on the Berlin thread that deals with activities other than FKK Artemis.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=668[/url]
I and others spend a great deal of time & effort detailing our adventures there and it is full of useful info and reports. Here also is a link to a detailed Berlin bordello/club report I did last summer.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=776339&postcount=48[/url]
It covers just about everything there is to do in Berlin for the well travelled monger.
But briefly-If you also want an experience with a Brothel girl I would suggest one of three places.
Kamilla Dee-over all the best brothel in Berlin with in reach of the ordinary monger.There is one other, whose name escapes me, where the rich and famous go (Sting has been there I hear) but the prices are through the roof. I m sure the girls are exquisite but....
[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/frames_e.htm[/url]
Mon Rouge-I always have had good experiences here. If you can mange a visit during the week before 16:00 you will pay 100 euros for an hour of fun. The best deal in Berlin IMO considering the quality of the girls and the service given. Never had a bad session here.
[url]http://www.monrouge.de/models_en.html[/url]
Nicky is a full on PSE but I don’t think you will find her there during the day.
Liberty-more reasonably priced but a very well run brothel. Again, I have never had a bad session here. Some girls I like better than others but they always deliver.
[url]http://www.libertyberlin.de/index_2.html[/url]
Unfortunately due to the holidays some of the best girls in all these places seem to be taking a bit of a break. But who can begrudge them that.
Have fun and I do look forward to your report. It is always useful to get a new perspective.
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[QUOTE=Rogerpaul]
The kino is downstairs. If you are a bit shy to approcah it is a good place to lurk. With advance knowledge of the sharks, you can choose the girl you want to be with once they approach you. But definitely talk to them and see if you have a vibe.[/QUOTE]
There is also a Kino off the main upstairs bar at the back of the bar, opposite corner to where you find the dining room.
I think that if you hang in the Kino you really become a target for the girls looking to increase their cash with quickie bbbjcim etc.. That is if you just want to hang in there and observe (quite permissible as far as I understand) you had better be pretty good at saying no to approaching girls as you will be approached-a lot.
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[QUOTE=Fkk Man]I am thinking to go in the Artemis tomorrow while I am visiting Berlin. Do you think guys will be a good idea or I will just lose money?
I will have only this opportunity to stay in Berlin, but I can also go in the OASYS that is near my house
Other questions.
How much extra is a BBBJ?
And
What is the Better time to go there?[/QUOTE]
It is hard to say if you will just waste money. For sure the activity will be a bit subdued as many of the girls will be taking a break and your choice of girls may well be limited. The girls pay the same fee you do to enter Artemis so if there is a perception among them that business will be down, more will stay away. The girls that are there are liable to be a bit more aggressive trying to get what business is there for them. All in all not a great recipe for a top notch FKK experience. All that being said, I am sure that some fun could be had. Personally I would give it a miss, but then I live here so I can always go later in January when things return to normal.
But if it is your only chance and you really want to go then go for it.
And yes bbbj is included in the 60 euro half hour fee. But not cim (come in mouth). If you come in her mouth it will cost you 50 euros extra. Most of the girls at Artemis are pretty good at letting you know this but it is good to be aware.
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FKK Artemis on Saturday 17 January 2009
Hi to all ISG user and FKK Artemis guy!
I plan to visit Artemis on Saturday 17 January 2009.
I want ask if someone know about number of girls in the club. You think will be many girls still on hollyday or you think that the situasion is become normal like ever?
I think after hollyday girls are more relax. So I think that will be a good day but maybe Saturday night will be to much guy!
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[QUOTE=Fichetta]Hi to all ISG user and FKK Artemis guy!
I plan to visit Artemis on Saturday 17 January 2009.
I want ask if someone know about number of girls in the club. You think will be many girls still on hollyday or you think that the situasion is become normal like ever?
I think after hollyday girls are more relax. So I think that will be a good day but maybe Saturday night will be to much guy![/QUOTE]
I should think that by then things will be back to normal. As for the number of guys, the only way to try to gauge that is to find out if there are any big events on at the Messe. That usually means a big crowd. But lots of guys mean lots of girls so it is not necessarily a bad thing to have a crowd.
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]I should think that by then things will be back to normal. As for the number of guys, the only way to try to gauge that is to find out if there are any big events on at the Messe. That usually means a big crowd. But lots of guys mean lots of girls so it is not necessarily a bad thing to have a crowd.[/QUOTE]I see in the Berlin Messe web site and I see that there are some event:
- Internationale Grüne Woche Berlin
- Heim-Tier & Pflanze Berlin
but I don't if is an important or not event! Well...I just but ticket for the airplane so...or I lose money of the ticket or I must go anyway!
I post my "Travel Plans & Announcements" in the right session of the forum on but I tell also in this thread:
I WILL BE AT THE FKK ARTEMIS ON SATURDAY 17 JANNUARY AT ABOUT 22.00; IF THERE ARE SOME ISG GUY WE CAN MEET AT THE CLUB AND EXCHANGE SOME WORD AND OPINION ABOUT GIRLS AND EVERYTHING ELSE!
Thank Angus for the answear...you are the admin of this thread?
Say hello to all!
Fichetta
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Ellie
hey angus,
certainly sounds like you are quite up to speed on the artemis situation.
it has been many months since i have made it to b-town, but i may have cause to be there during the later part of january.
the last session that i had at artemis was with a tall, stunning turkish gal named ellie. actually she was one of the best fkk sessions of 2008 for me. i'm curious if you know her and if you happen to know if she is still around
cheers and thanks for the info!
dedalus, who would hit berlin more often if stuttgart, frankfurt and nrw weren't so dad gum easier to reach
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[quote=dedalus]hey angus,
certainly sounds like you are quite up to speed on the artemis situation.
it has been many months since i have made it to b-town, but i may have cause to be there during the later part of january.
the last session that i had at artemis was with a tall, stunning turkish gal named ellie. actually she was one of the best fkk sessions of 2008 for me. i'm curious if you know her and if you happen to know if she is still around
cheers and thanks for the info!
dedalus, who would hit berlin more often if stuttgart, frankfurt and nrw weren't so dad gum easier to reach[/quote]
well, i probably sound like i know more than i do;-)
i actually had my first artemis visit (actually first fkk) just two short months ago. but i have been 4 times since then and i am a fast learner. i have also been very dedicated with my mongering here in berlin the past 4 years and have, in total, almost 30 years experience with the hobby. much of the stuff one picks up in all those years is, i believe, transferable to any p4p environment.
and i love to monger. that is the most important ingredient coupled with the knack of just sounding like you know what you are talking about.
as for ellie, i have never run across her in my visits so far but it sounds as if i would like to. if you do come to berlin in late january drop me a line. i should be about ready for a another dose of artemis by then.
cheers
am
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Well, I probably sound like I know more than I do;-)
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Don't we all. ;-))
[QUOTE=Angus Magee]
As for Ellie, I have never run across her in my visits so far but it sounds as if I would like to. If you do come to Berlin in late January drop me a line. I should be about ready for a another dose of Artemis by then.
Cheers
AM[/QUOTE]
Will do! I love Berlin, but get there way to infrequently. It is not that close to my coordinates, but the ICE Sprinter makes it a little closer than it use to be.
Cheers,
Dedalus
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Thanks again for the answers, gents, they are all of great help! And many thanks for the links to the other threads and posts, Angus, I had a quick look and it did look promising! I will carefully read through the pages of the Berlin-thread a later.
Just another quick question...where is Liberty located in Berlin - is it Marthin-Luther Strasse 14 as written on their webpage on the Impressum-page?
Thanks again - this will be a great trip!
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[QUOTE=Rekarn]Thanks again for the answers, gents, they are all of great help! And many thanks for the links to the other threads and posts, Angus, I had a quick look and it did look promising! I will carefully read through the pages of the Berlin-thread a later.
Just another quick question...where is Liberty located in Berlin - is it Marthin-Luther Strasse 14 as written on their webpage on the Impressum-page?
Thanks again - this will be a great trip![/QUOTE]
Yup-that would be the address. 2nd Floor.
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Questions before my first visit
I have been reading a lot of the posts here in preparation for my trip to Berlin in January. I have a couple questions that might be stupid ones:
1) What is the shower situation like? Private stalls or just an open area?
2) Do most guys go naked under the robe or would it be weird to wear shorts underneath?
3) Can you bring your own condoms or do the girls have their own they use?
Sorry if these are weird questions but i am curious. Thanks
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[QUOTE=Austin49]I have been reading a lot of the posts here in preparation for my trip to Berlin in January. I have a couple questions that might be stupid ones:
1) What is the shower situation like? Private stalls or just an open area?
2) Do most guys go naked under the robe or would it be weird to wear shorts underneath?
3) Can you bring your own condoms or do the girls have their own they use?
Sorry if these are weird questions but i am curious. Thanks[/QUOTE]
1) It's a public shower resp. an open area (in the men's changing area). There's another open shower downstairs in the relax/sauna zone. There are no private stalls as far as I've seen.
2) Most guys go naked under the robe or towel. But I've seen (a few) guys in clubs wearing shorts underneath. Or combining towel and robe. So whatever way you prefer, this will be accepted. Btw: The locals claim to go naked under the robe (Nordrhein Westfalen area) or just with a towel (Frankfurt aera) to be the REAL thing, but you should be okay doing it a little bit differently. ;–)
3) Yes you can. But it's better to discuss it beforehand with your girl. For some women it should be absolutely no problem; however some prefer to use their own for whatever personal reasons.
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Artemis on Monday
I was feeling like a bit 'o something last night and so decided upon a trip to Artemis. I was also curious to see what a between holidays week day crowd would be like.
I arrived at 17:00 and it was very, very quiet. I spent quite some time (2 hrs.)
in the sauna/pool/downstairs bar juts relaxing and a bit of reading. When I finally ventured back up stairs things had improved some what but the atmosphere was still a bit subdued. Or maybe it was me?
I had a heck of a time finding anyone that I fancied. And when I finally did settle on a girl I made a very disappointing choice. Sorry I can not remember her name but she was very tall, slim, small breasts, nice ass. From Poland I believe. Now this girl was by no means a shark, after all, I made initial contact and all. And she did not change particularly in the room. But the sex was sub par. I guess there was not much sexual chemistry even though I liked her just fine on the couch.
She did give a decent bj, though I really had to be on guard as I could tell at one point that she was sort of trying for a shot in the mouth and the extra cash that represents. The fucking was also decent. But over all I got the feeling that she was just doing her job, if you know what I mean.
I paid the girl and then spent some more time in the sauna, roamed, had a few chats and almost sessions and finally just bailed on the evening. Home before midnight.
So my thoughts on Artemis on a low season night? I would probably give it a miss next time. I find that when the place is rocking, even though there are more guys and thus a bit of competition for the finest girls, the atmosphere is better and the girls seem more into the fun.
And as I say above, maybe this had more to do with my own mood than anything else.
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Hey Angus....
....for someone who took an age to make your first visit to Artemis, even if this one wasn't a great success you've become quite an addict. :-) :-) Don't say you weren't warned. Thanks a lot for all the reports. Have a good 2009. Looking forward to more...
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[QUOTE=Toscana]....for someone who took an age to make your first visit to Artemis, even if this one wasn't a great success you've become quite an addict. :-) :-) Don't say you weren't warned. Thanks a lot for all the reports. Have a good 2009. Looking forward to more...[/QUOTE]
Yes I know. One of my reasons for not hitting Artemis for so long was that I kind of knew that once experienced I would want to head back again...and again...and again...
But I console myself with the fact that, aside from the girls, I really do enjoy the sauna, which is top notch at Artemis IMO.
I have later on in January penciled in for another visit.
Happy New Year to you and all ISG readers.
AM
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Entrance Artemis is now 80 €! See,
[url]http://www.fkk-artemis.de/en/index.php[/url]
Big30
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Your questions
[QUOTE=Austin49]I have been reading a lot of the posts here in preparation for my trip to Berlin in January. I have a couple questions that might be stupid ones:
1) What is the shower situation like? Private stalls or just an open area?
2) Do most guys go naked under the robe or would it be weird to wear shorts underneath?
3) Can you bring your own condoms or do the girls have their own they use?
Sorry if these are weird questions but i am curious. Thanks[/QUOTE]
1) Is not having a private stall a problem?
2) Most guys go naked under their towels or robes. I've only seen dudes wear underwear in clubs in Niedersachsen. Don't know why.
3) You can do anything you want. The girls always have an adequate supply of London brand condoms.
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[QUOTE=Big30]Entrance Artemis is now 80 €! See,
[url]http://www.fkk-artemis.de/en/index.php[/url]
Big30[/QUOTE]Gig30,
You're right! The entrance fee in now 80 euro! I'll we go to Artemis in midle of Jannuary. And I will pay 10 euro more from my last visit!
What I can say. The only thing that I can say is that I will expet something more from my last visit!
Happy new year to all ISG and Artemis guy!
Fichetta
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[QUOTE=Big30]Entrance Artemis is now 80 €! See,
[url]http://www.fkk-artemis.de/en/index.php[/url]
Big30[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the heads up.
I often wonder why Artemis does not have some sort of short time entrance for a reduced price. Perhaps a three hour ticket for 40-45 euros. As a berlin resident this would get me there a bit more often for a sauna and a single session with a fav girl. The full price ticket is rather a large investment in both time & money.
Are there any FKK that offer such a deal?
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FKK entry fee deals
[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Thanks for the heads up.
I often wonder why Artemis does not have some sort of short time entrance for a reduced price. Perhaps a three hour ticket for 40-45 euros. As a berlin resident this would get me there a bit more often for a sauna and a single session with a fav girl. The full price ticket is rather a large investment in both time & money.
Are there any FKK that offer such a deal?[/QUOTE]
Hmm...
I can't think of any FKK clubs which offer a lower entry fee for a shorter stay.
Some clubs have deals where if you come in a group they reduce the entry fee per individual.
Some clubs have Happy Hour pricing where they charge you less if you arrive in the middle of the day or late in the evening.
Some partytreffs do offer lower fees for three hour stays versus for the full day. These are the ones which I describe as offering premium pricing. It is debatable though as to whether they are true PTs because these are the ones which don't offer any public action; everything takes place behind closed doors.
Then there are PTs which offer lower rates on certain days to encourage traffic.
Artemis raising its entry fee to this level is going to reduce traffic. Berlin may have the government there but it still is in the middle of a relatively depressed area economically. And Germany overall is officially in a recession. What are these folks thinking?
What they should do is encourage multiple visits by creating a frequent visitor program.
One other club this guy runs, F39 in Bochum, is in bankruptcy proceedings.
Doesn't he also own one other club besides this? I remember reading something on this topic somewhere.
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]I often wonder why Artemis does not have some sort of short time entrance for a reduced price. Perhaps a three hour ticket for 40-45 euros. [/QUOTE]
Because theirs no competition and they don't have to and they want to make as much money as they can?
[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Are there any FKK that offer such a deal?[/QUOTE]
Yes. Harem in Bad Lippspringe, Sakura in Böblingen, Paradise in Stuttgart and some more.
HB
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[QUOTE=Hessen Bub]Because theirs no competition and they don't have to and they want to make as much money as they can?
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Well I assume they have done the research and you are right. I'm just saying that a certain portion of their cliental might visit more often were there this option. And the way I see it they could have a three hour ticket that puts the onus on the customer to leave before the three hours are up or pay the balance upon checking out. I imagine that often they would end up collecting the whole fee in the end.
But as you say there is no real competition for Artemis and they probably are doing okay as it is. Perhaps with the recent world economic woes they will have to look at such options. As a consumer I can only hope and in the mean time pony up the extra 10 euros. I just hope they don't raise the basic half hour fee for the girls.
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[QUOTE=Jackyo]
What they should do is encourage multiple visits by creating a frequent visitor program.
One other club this guy runs, F39 in Bochum, is in bankruptcy proceedings.
Doesn't he also own one other club besides this? I remember reading something on this topic somewhere.[/QUOTE]
They actually do have a ticket available for 800 euros that gives the buyer the 11th & 12th visit for free. Great, but you need to pay 800 up front.
They also have a taxi driver & seniors discount ticket on the low traffic days of Sunday/Monday.
[url]http://www.fkk-artemis.de/en/news.php[/url]
I guess that when I look at a place like Artemis it appears to be a money making factory but one never knows what the bottom line is in a place like this. I do remember that in their first year they offered a discount (40 euros for the month of December) to get people in the door. It seems to have worked and the place is quite busy even on a Monday between Christmas & New Year's Eve. When I was there this past Monday there was a very large influx of customers as I was leaving at about 22:30.
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]They actually do have a ticket available for 800 euros that gives the buyer the 11th & 12th visit for free. Great, but you need to pay 800 up front.
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Fkk World has something like this as well, I think the lowest program was a 10 pass ticket for 470 euro's. So each entry is 47 euro's instead of the usual 65. They also have a two for three deal (two people pay, third person is free) that lowers the rate to 44 euro's (only monday thru wednesday).
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]but one never knows what the bottom line is in a place like this.[/QUOTE]I heard somewhere that the initial investment was EUR 10 million. Not a small punt by any standards. Their wet area is very good, the food is pretty OK by FKK standards, the place is well kept and clean, management is cooperative. A good selection on most days. Call me a Palace basher, but I don't feel too bad about the Artemis entry price in comparison. I wish them continued success.
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hotel options
Hi all and Happy New Year !
Speaking of which, having read a lot of this thread and particularly the excellent reports from Angus Mgee, I'm considering starting it off with a bang (or a few!) in Berlins FKK Artemis.
So, doing some planning and I've trawled this thread for hotel info but had little joy. I'm normally a cheapy Etap hotel user, you know what you get, clean room, good breakfast buffet, cheap n chearful. Can anyone recommend a similar place near Artemis and Kamilla Dee etc? The Etaps seem to be a little way from there. I could do some googling but am seeking any reccomendations first !
Cheers all.
DT
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[QUOTE=Dick Travel]Hi all and Happy New Year !
Speaking of which, having read a lot of this thread and particularly the excellent reports from Angus Mgee, I'm considering starting it off with a bang (or a few!) in Berlins FKK Artemis.
So, doing some planning and I've trawled this thread for hotel info but had little joy. I'm normally a cheapy Etap hotel user, you know what you get, clean room, good breakfast buffet, cheap n chearful. Can anyone recommend a similar place near Artemis and Kamilla Dee etc? The Etaps seem to be a little way from there. I could do some googling but am seeking any reccomendations first !
Cheers all.
DT[/QUOTE]
Hi,
I am certainly not an expert with regard to Berlin Hotels but I know that there is an Ibis hotel very close to the Messe & thus close to Artemis.
[url]http://www.accorhotels.com/gb/hotel-0657-ibis-berlin-messe/index.shtml[/url]
I have never stayed there though and have no idea how it measures up with regard to service etc.. Just that it is in the right location for your needs.
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[QUOTE=Toscana]I heard somewhere that the initial investment was EUR 10 million. Not a small punt by any standards. Their wet area is very good, the food is pretty OK by FKK standards, the place is well kept and clean, management is cooperative. A good selection on most days. Call me a Palace basher, but I don't feel too bad about the Artemis entry price in comparison. I wish them continued success.[/QUOTE]
Investment should have been around 5 Mio EUR. And they do not only charge 5 EUR above Palace for the entrance, they do also charge 60 EUR instead of 50 EUR for 30 min. "Call me a Palace pusher, but I don't feel too bad about the Palce entry price in comparison. I wish them continued success." ;-)
HB
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[QUOTE=Hessen Bub]Investment should have been around 5 Mio EUR. And they do not only charge 5 EUR above Palace for the entrance, they do also charge 60 EUR instead of 50 EUR for 30 min. "Call me a Palace pusher, but I don't feel too bad about the Palce entry price in comparison. I wish them continued success." ;-)
HB[/QUOTE]Bub,
if we do meet one day, it's clearly going to be in Oase.... But let's have a good meal before we get there, OK? :-)
The decision to up the price is understandable, because they really have made a success of this place in a short time. It shows a lot of confidence. But I guess they are relying on the continuing tourist trade, because the locals - Angus of course excepted - are going to feel the pinch financially in the next couple of years. Mal schauen.
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DT's planning
Angus, thankyou. It was booked up but I have made arrangements now.
For others planning on visiting FKK Artemis here are some useful links/info from my planning:
Hotel:
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Hotel Excelsior (4*)
Hardenbergstraße 14
10623 Berlin, Germany
[url]http://www.leonardo-hotels.com/Berlin_Excelsior_Hotel[/url]
A cut above my normal ETAP standard but thanks to lastminute.com flights/hotel deal a reasonable price and looks quite good and very handily located. I also used a lastminute.com promotional voucher to save £20.09. I shall comment after my stay.
Distance from FKK Artemis:
Few mins walk to Zoologischer Garten for several S Bahn lines.
Take S5 ?3 stops Westbound to Westkreuz.
Then short walk...
[url]http://www.fkk-artemis.de/images/anfahrt_gross.gif[/url]
or 7 mins by car (google maps -no i'm not renting a car, thinking taxis!)
or 49 mins walk to Artemis (google maps) - combined with a stop for coffee could be nice but...
Transport:
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from Schoenfeld Airport:
this page gives all options plus links to timetables etc:
[url]http://www.berlin-airport.de/EN/ReisendeUndBesucher/AnUndAbreise/AnfahrtBusUndBahn/SXF/OeffentlicheSXF.html[/url]
easy option is Airport Express S Bahn
28 mins to HBF (then a further 4 mins to Zoologischer Garden for hotel above = ~35-40 mins total.)
All - plans posted in Travel Plans thread, PMs welcome if you'd like to meet up.
DT
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Entrance Fee
Regarding the entrance fee for Artemis. Just thought I'd let everyone know if you don't know already that it is possible to leave Artemis during the day and come back later on if you wish and not pay a re-entry fee. Artemis is open 11am to 5am the following day i.e. a day is considered this 18 hour time period.
When I have gone to Artemis in the past I normally arrive about 2pm, have a session, leave around 4pm and come back later around 11pm for one or two more sessions. I find this pattern works for me. If I hang around for hours to build up sperm count and stanima I just get a bit bored (even though the facilities are good). I prefer to go off for a while and do something else then come back later.
When you are leaving for the first time let them know you wish to return later, they will take your locker key back off you, you sign a log. Very important to remember your locker number. Then when you come back tell them your locker number and name, they then ask you to sign beside where you had previously signed out, you get your key back and then good to go.
Just thought I'd let people know this if they don't know already as Artemis don't actively advertise it. I find it useful to maximise the time frame of the entry fee. Especially important now that the fee has gone up from €70 to €80.
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Artemis
I have been to Artemis two nights and there is lots of guys almost fighting to get the girl they want.
More and more desperat situation where the guys are standing out in the locker room waything to grab the girl on her way inn or out from the privat room.
This is not a nice situation and it is a real supermarked feeling.
There is not so many really beautifull girls in the moment but 3-4 is quite nice.
Kast week there was 150 girls and usually only 50 guys. The girls was almost crying as they told me.
Now it is oposite!
With 80 E for the entrence and 60 E for one session - then really nothing spessial when it comes to beauty of the girls I will focus on other clubs.
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[QUOTE=Toscana]Bub,
if we do meet one day, it's clearly going to be in Oase.... But let's have a good meal before we get there, OK? :-)[/QUOTE]
Deal. We could also order, pizza is not that bad when delivered.
HB
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Is the 10th ok?
Hi,
Have heard reports that the number of girls goes down during this season. Was thinking of going this Saturday.
Would the girls be back by the 10th?
Or should I wait till the second half of the month?
Cheers,
Roger
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[QUOTE=Rogerpaul]Hi,
Have heard reports that the number of girls goes down during this season. Was thinking of going this Saturday.
Would the girls be back by the 10th?
Or should I wait till the second half of the month?
Cheers,
Roger[/QUOTE]
While no expert of the rhythms of the club I would guess that the later you left it in the month the better. I also ended up at Artemis this past Saturday evening after deciding last minute to go. There was definitely a significant shortage of women. For me it did not matter as I went hoping to meet up with a particular girl and quickly found her sitting alone at the down stairs bar right after I had finished a round of sauna and soak. We chatted for a while and then it was upstairs for an hour long session-which was great BTW.
I stayed a while after just to watch and there were lots of guys milling around the stairs as Dick1 mentions.
That being said, there were still plenty of girls to be had. You just had to be quick and not dither too much. There were girls hanging at the bar and I was approached by a number of girls. They were still looking for business in other words.
I think that one of the downsides of an FKK like Artemis is that one gets used to so much choice. It is pretty easy to start to get into a cycle where one is certain that "the next one I meet will be better, more gorgeous, better tits, etc.. You can go on like this all night and miss a perfectly acceptable experience.
Myself, I am thinking of another visit in two week on the 17th.
I'm hooked, I might as well admit it...
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Heya,
I'm going to be in Berlin wednesday morning and i am still deciding where to go. Artemis seems to be a pretty solid choice but i was also considering Kamilla Dee or Van Kampen.
I would really appreciate any advice since i'm new to this
Bob
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Its like a drug
[QUOTE=Angus Magee]I'm hooked, I might as well admit it...[/QUOTE]
Hey Angus,
FKK clubs are the worst thing this side of any hard drug you can name.
You'll never be the same after one visit. This a problem.
And is there an antidote in sight? None that I can think of.
As far as club rythms are concerned, there is speculation that the best time to visit a club is the end of the month. The guests run short of funds and have to wait for their next paychecks before they can visit again.
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[QUOTE=Jackyo]FKK clubs are the worst thing this side of any hard drug you can name.
...
And is there an antidote in sight? None that I can think of.[/QUOTE]Maybe a beautiful nymphomaniac for girlfriend?
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Ha!
[QUOTE=Masayama]Maybe a beautiful nymphomaniac for girlfriend?[/QUOTE]
This would be an antidote to this addiction!
Problem is that she may turn out to be more expensive in the long run plus you have to deal with her neuroses.
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[QUOTE=Jackyo]Problem is that she may turn out to be more expensive in the long run plus you have to deal with her neuroses.[/QUOTE]No cure without side effects.
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[QUOTE=Bobby Jones]Heya,
I'm going to be in Berlin wednesday morning and i am still deciding where to go. Artemis seems to be a pretty solid choice but i was also considering Kamilla Dee or Van Kampen.
I would really appreciate any advice since i'm new to this
Bob[/QUOTE]
I would suggest that you spend some time reading both the Artemis thread & the Berlin thread,and perhaps the Reports of Distinction as well. Then come back with some specific questions about the places/girls that interest you.
You will get a better response.
AM
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[QUOTE=Masayama]Maybe a beautiful nymphomaniac for girlfriend?[/QUOTE]
Beautiful nympho GFs are much over rated. They are rarely faithful...
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Suggestions
Leaving for my trip in a couple days and am anxiously waiting to visit Artemis. Before I left I wanted to ask if anybody had an suggestions on which girls to look for or which ones to avoid. I have learned a lot reading this board. Thanks to everybody who contributes.
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Nympho GF
[QUOTE=Masayama]Maybe a beautiful nymphomaniac for girlfriend?[/QUOTE]Definitely not! The FKK-feeling, i.e. being the small boy in a toy- or candy-shop, with two dozens of beautiful, slender, shaved, willing and naked elves all being at your disposal, unashamedly strutting and showing off their assets and willing to do naughty things, remains unsurpassed and, I have to admit, too, is highly addictive. To compensate for that feeling you'd need not only one but a harem of nymphomaniacs!
Or, as I once read in a completely different context: "Once you have pissed out of a box-car crossing the continental divide, you are hooked forever."
I know this hasn't got anything to do with the topic of this thread but I felt compelled to add these humble lines to the discussion. Have fun!
Xenon U
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[QUOTE=Austin49]Leaving for my trip in a couple days and am anxiously waiting to visit Artemis. Before I left I wanted to ask if anybody had an suggestions on which girls to look for or which ones to avoid. I have learned a lot reading this board. Thanks to everybody who contributes.[/QUOTE]
I don't know but going to an FKK with a list sort of defeats the purpose of the FKK. The whole fun and point of going is to meet the girls and see if you hit it off.
If you read the thread you might find some hints but my suggestion is to just go and have fun.
But if you do want a name, I don't think that you can go wrong with Shiva. Her pics are on the Artemis website.
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[QUOTE=Xenon]
Or, as I once read in a completely different context: "Once you have pissed out of a box-car crossing the continental divide, you are hooked forever."
I know this hasn't got anything to do with the topic of this thread but I felt compelled to add these humble lines to the discussion. Have fun!
Xenon U[/QUOTE]
I have to ask, where does this quote come from? My guess would be Kerouac.
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Ok gentlemen, I promised a report and here it is!
I'm still in Berlin. Right now in an Internet cafe on some street called Liebknechtstrasse (I think). And I'm staying for another 5 days, so more reports might follow.
I'll try to be as detailed as I can, and I'll try to avoid rating the girls because I'm the kind of guy who is only capable of objectively rating a girl as either 1 (bad) or 10 (good). Don't ask me why.
So after arriving [i]very[/i] late on Monday, I had to abandon my plans of visiting Artemis that night partly because I was too tired and also because I had some hotel issues (the late flight screwed everything), and I got checked-in almost an hour before Artemis closed ( 4 pm).
The next day, I could "sleep out" and recover from the travelling mess I had during the night. I decided to take a walk around the area where I currently live (Savignyplatz) and also get familiar with the local transport, the S-bahn and U-bahn. Asked some locals about how to get to Kurfürstendamm, because I wanted to get something to eat (although I could've picked some other restaurant closer to me, but anyway). I found this Italian place on the corner of the street; it was clean and decent, and the food was quite good. I paid for the food and left for the hotel again to get a shower relax a bit. Now the time was about 4 or 5 am and I wasn't really feeling for doing some shopping as I had planned to, because the cold was really killing me after a while in the open. So I decided to head off to Artemis. I left the hotel and walked for a minute to the S-bahn station Savignyplatz (my hotel. Hotel Pension Elegia. Is located very near to the station). I took S7 (I think) to Westkreuz. Although I think most, if not all, the trains in that direction stop there. Which is just one stop from Savignyplatz (Charlottenburg is inbetween).
I must agree with everybody else here that have visited Artemis. It's extremely easy to find. When you get off the train, you need to look for some stairs with a yellow sign above it that says "Ausgang" or maybe "Aufgang", and just follow it up and then proceed to some other stairs with the the same kind of sign hanging above it. Then you get to some sort of a "tunnel" that you proceed through. When you're in the "tunnel", you'll see a big building to your left. Just around 60-70 meters away from you. With the sign "Artemis" (spelled backwards because you're on the right-back side of it). Then you get to a car park that you walk through and then you'll eventually see Artemis to your left, and maybe some cars and taxis outside it. It took me less than 5 mins. To walk from the station to the building. I walked in and was served by a brunette lady who asked if this was my first time. I said yes and she explained how it all works. Even though nothing of what she said was new to me, thanks to this community. I paid the entry fee with my card, so I would have more cash over for the girls (I had about 320 Euros when I got there), and got my robe, the little white bracelet and the key to my safebox and locker. I put my wallet in the safebox and proceeded to the changeroom, got undressed and had a shower. I then proceeded to the main bar on the same floor as the changeroom, and had a seat in one of the sofas there. One thing I did notice is that I got weird looks from the other men that were sitting at the bar, maybe because I'm quite young compared to them. I'm within the 20-25 year range, quite short (175 cm or 5 feet 9), normally built physically, and I'm certainly no Brad Pitt, but I'm not really "bad" looking either. These "weird looks" would repeat themselves wherever I went, but not from everybody. I noticed that most of the men there were old enough to be my father or grandfather even. On top of that, I was alone in Artemis, and most of the men I saw spoke fluent German and showed no interest in talking English or talking to others whom they knew where non-German.
I didn't mind and ordered a drink, went back to my sofa, and was immediately approached by a dark-haired girl Eastern European girl (maybe Romanian? ) and her blonde friend, whom promised me a great time, etc. I kindly declined, saying that I just got here and wanted to relax first, and said "Maybe later". If I remember correctly, one more girl approached me whom I also kindly said "Not now" to. Then later on this 25-year old blonde girl from Poland, Bianca, approached me and started touching me a bit and asked what my name was, etc. I asked her the same and we had a short 2-3 minute talk before heading off to the kino on the same floor, where I had planned to only get a blowjob from her and then proceed on to a room. We ended up having two sessions in there. She put her towel on the back-end big "sofa" and asked me to lay down. "Sure", I said. Then she proceeded by slowly "walking" up to me on her knees, facing me and we exchanged some tongue for a while, all while I was touching and squeezing her tits (natural, they were nice). Then she opened up her bag and took out a condom and put it on me and proceeded with a blowjob. I had initially thought about a BBBJ, but I didn't really mind considering this was my first session ever, actually the first time I was with a professional ever period. She sucked me hard and then we switched positions and I fucked her fast from behind for a while. Then I lay down against the pillows on the wall and she started riding me, first facing me while I squeezed her tits again and then from behind (with her ass facing me). This was such a joy. Then I proceeded to missionary which was so-so and then finally doggy again when I came "unexpectedly". This must've been after around 10-15 mins. And I was feeling a bit embarrassed to go out to the bar again after "only" such a short time. So I said "let's have another session" and she agreed, switched condoms and proceeded to sucking me again. Then I did her doggy style again, but this time with less energy than before and with a thirst in my mouth. And this time it was much harder for me to finish, and she would have to suck me hard and ride me well to get little R excited again. During doggy, I took my cock out and felt her ass and watched her pussy and put my finger in it, not knowing that it's apparently an extra 50 Euro if you do. She didn't say anything, but discreetly moved her body up so that my finger would slip out. During this time another girl came in to the kino, an Eastern European brunette whom looked good, and from time to time she looked back at us having a go, as if she was jealous or wanted to hop in. Then another gentleman came in and saw us working it and stayed for a while with his drink. I then think he was approached by an Asian. Probably Thai. Girl who asked where he was from. Holland. And I think he eventually kindly declined her offer of going to a room, which seemed to make her disappointed. I once again finished her in doggy style, and she removed the condom with a piece of paper and gathered her stuff to proceed out of the room. There was not much GFE in this session, we did exchange some tongue and she did kiss my chest, but that was it. Other than that, she was more or less asking me what to do, and during the sessions there were some moaning that to me seemed fake. We went out, I went to the bar to have a drink, and then we went to the safebox and she got her 120 Euros. Worth it? I could've probably gotten better sex from someone else, but I wasn't complaining. Would I repeat? I don't think so. Something struck me while I was lying in my hotel bed and that was that I had heard about Bianca somewhere else before, and then I figured she was might've been one of the sharks I was warned not to go with. At least I think so. Please correct me if I'm wrong about this girl. Anyway, now I had a seat in the bar and waited for a while, tried to gather my strength again, rejected a few girls, had a walk around the club, went down the stairs and saw some fine girls lying on the sofa right under the stairs, but I wasn't really interested just yet and proceeded to the right and found the gym. I lifted some weights for a while and then proceeded to the kino near the gym, and saw an older gentleman sitting there. I took a seat in a sofa behind him and had a [url=http://en. Wikipedia.org/wiki/Snus]snus[/url] (I was probably the only one in the to use it), and watched the porno movie on the screen with those typical Central European Private male porno stars. I left after five minutes and explored the area to left when you descend the stairs, I. E. The area with the pool, the sauna, bio-sauna, Hamam, etc. I proceeded to the bar and had a another drink, sat down in one of the sofas there, and was after some time approached by a rather cute Bulgarian woman with brown-red (coloured) hair. I can't remember her name, but she must've been 5 feet 9 or 10, a cute face, a body with a little fat on her bones (I. E. Not that slim, but not "fat" either, normal kinda), quite saggy tits but they were OK. She began to talk to me in German and I said "sorry, I don't understand German", and she switched to English. We talked for a minute or two, and she soon realized that I wasn't interested. Not because it was something wrong about her, OK, there were probably other finer woman around, but because I was still recovering. Believe it or not, despite my young age I can't have sex too often. I have to drink and/or eat and relax inbetween. I ordered another drink and had a seat at the bar, never looking any girls in the eyes so I didn't get too many offers, and then had another walk around the club, "tested" the sauna, checked out the kino near the gym and those rooms beside it (which I don't know what they are), and then lied down on one of those flat chairs beside the pool. Most of the girls that came down to the wellness area would touch my hair (I've not got such short hair as most other men had) and then say something like "hey baby, wanna go" or if it was someone I had recently rejected with the line "maybe later", "what about now then? " I kindly explained to them all that I wanted to relax. After a while, some blonde woman entered the pool and went to the bar looking for customers I guess. Then she was heading back and spotted me, and came to my chair, sat down beside me and asked me how I was. I said "fine. A bit tired though". She smiled and said OK and then asked what my name was. I answered and asked her the same. She was Ella, a 27-year old blonde from St. Petersburg, Russia. And she had one of the best asses I saw in the club and certainly one of the best asses I ever saw. She was maybe 5 feet 8 or 9, I. E. Almost my height, she had a very tight body, short hair, and a quite cute face. We talked for a little bit, I told her my age (which seemed to surprise her) and where I was from, and then I agreed to go with her, but not before asking if "French kissing" was allowed. She asked "What's French kissing? If you mean French as in blowjob, then sure" I said no, kissing with tongue. She said "Oh, yes, sure! " And also explained that I would get a BBBJ or a CBJ, whatever I liked the most. Before we went up the stairs to get a room, I had to visit the WC and she kindly waited outside for a min. Then we proceeded up, got a quite nice room, she arranged it nicely for me to lay down with the pillows and all, and then proceeded by gently kissing my chest and my body, and then "moving up" towards my mouth and we started kissing with the tongue and some deep-kissing, all while I was feeling her tits (she had silicone I think, but it didn't bother me) and massaging her arms and body. Then she gave me one of the best BBBJs I've had in my life and one of the best I had there, licking and gently biting them. She was clearly sucking with passion and did all she could to make me happy, and then moved her sweet tight ass around to me and let me dine at her Y for a long time all while she still sucked me with that same passion, and we would do this (69) for such a long time that I had to extend to 60 minutes to actually get to fuck her. I didn't mind at all though, I was in heaven with a fine woman who gave me a real genuine GFE. She then moved up so that she would sit at my face, and I would do some more dining for 5 mins. Before switching to doggy. Seeing her awesome ass right in front of me like that was such a joy that I cannot describe with words. It was just perfect. I put my cock in there and took it easy at first, feeling her nice pink pussy out and then took it out and used my fingers to "expand" her pussy lips and just enjoy the sight. Then I put it in again and did her fast. She moaned and also seemed to enjoy looking at herself being taken from behind in the side-mirror. We then switched to missionary and I once again took it easy for half a min and then gave her all I had, and then paused for a bit and started having a really nice and wet DFK with her while I fucked her slowly and felt her tits or massaged her arms while they were around me. I couldn't actually believe I was doing this with this woman. I then took her legs and put them on my shoulders and again tried my best to do her fast. We then switched place so that she was lying with her face towards the door, and while still in missionary, I would give her the last bit of energy I had left and then finished off while she was moaning, touching her tits and my arms. We then DFKed some more and I then took out my totally exhausted cock out of her pussy. She helped me to remove the condom, I lay down on the bed while she was sitting beside me and we talked for about 10 mins. She was really a cool and nice girl. She joked about my cock still being rather "active" like "Oh, he's still up! " while she was smiling. I then felt her tits again and touched her body and we then proceeded out to the safebox where I happily paid her her 120 Euros and also tipped her with another 10 Euro bill. We then kissed each other goodbye and I had a long shower. My cock had at this point had enough, it felt, and I took my robe and got down to the pool again and ordered another drink, listening to two girls talking in German and laughing out loud with the bar woman and the masseur. I would spend most of my time here and have drinks and reject girls, although it was one girl I actually would want to have had a session with but I feared little R wasn't ready. Her name was Miriam, she had a very nice and by the looks of it squeeze-friendly body and ass, red hair and a cute face. I think she was German IIRC. She was very social and started talking to me, constantly joking and from time to time indirectly or directly suggested that she wanted to have a go, like when she asked why I was sitting her or something along that line and I responded "I'm tired and need to relax" and she jokingly said "Oh, so I have no chance then? " I said "Sure you do, but maybe later". This time I actually meant it. Maybe later. I was sorry that she wouldn't return to this bar to fish me up again. I then spent some tens of minutes at the chairs along the pool again and was again approached by girls who touched my hair or directly infront of me, and one or two of the girls. Both Eastern European brunettes, one being from Moldavia, I wanted to try out but just wasn't ready yet. That's the sorry part of my first time at Artemis. There were so many women around whom I really wanted to have a go with, especially Miriam and those two brunettes. But when they came, I wasn't ready and when I was ready I didn't see them.
So now I was ready, it felt, and after a while this tall blonde woman approaches me saying something in German. I'm still sitting by the wellness bar. I say what I always say. "sorry, I don't understand German", or "sorry, no German", and she then switches to English. Her name was Annabella and she was from Lithuania. I would never have guessed that based on her looks. She didn't really look Eastern European at all, but she did have a very beautiful model-like face. We began to talk and although I didn't actually feel like spending my last session with her and tried to say so multiple times at the beginning, she would stick on to me but not like a shark would do. She wanted to talk about something else and made no mention of going to a room after she knew I was tired. So we were sitting there talking about everything and she seemed very smart and descent. We must've spent 20-30 mins. Talking and I then knew there was no return. I can't spend 20-30 mins of her time and not do anything, she could probably easily have fished up other clients during that time. So then again, she makes the mention of going to a room and I say "Can we go after five minutes, I want to finish my snus" (I had showed my snus package to her earlier). So we sat for another five minutes and then I spit my pinch out into the "used portions"-storage of the snus package, and we moved up. I then noticed how tall she was and got a chance to see her ass. Which was rather large, but still fine and so was her body. She grabbed my arm like I was her date for the day or we were a couple, and she then found us a nice room. She told me to lay down and make myself comfortable, and so I did. She then kissed my chest and my body, just like Ella had done a few hours before her, and also just like Ella gave me a good chance to exhange my tongue with hers. She then moved down and gave me a real top-notch BBBJ, licking and biting my balls. Then she moves on to fetch a condom out of her bag and then uses her mouth to put it on my cock. That was nice and something out of the ordinary for me, heh. Then she begins to ride me while facing me which was nice and then we switch to doggy which is somewhat of a new experience for me considering the fact that she was bigger than me, but her ass was nice nonetheless and I did her doggy for a while and then did her fast for a while, but she said "Baby, not so fast. " So I slowed it down. Then I notice little R isn't really as battle-ready as he should be, so I ask her to suck me again. Said and done, she takes of the condom and sucks me again and asks if I want to come in her mouth. I'm not usually so into that and paying another extra 50 Euros, but I said "Sure" anyway. However, there would be some time before I actually finish. So as she sucks me off really well and licking and touching my balls, she seems to notice I'm not gonna come soon. I can see she's really trying her best to make me finish, but it's just not gonna happen soon. So as she begins to grow more frustrated, I tell her we extend to 60 minutes and that she doesn't have to hurry as I'm not. She says OK and takes it easy, treating my cock and my balls (which have already both taken a beating by Bianca and Ella, especially Ella). Then after a while, maybe 5 mins. , I want to fuck her again in doggy and she agrees, snaps out a condom and once again puts it on my cock. We're in this position for a little while and she doesn't seem to enjoy herself, so I think "What the hell, I'll just try to come soon" and lets her do the work by once again giving me a BBBJ and a good balls-treatment. She really tries her best and we're running out of time soon, so she grows even more frustrated now and I think begins to question whether it's something she's doing wrong. She jerks me off for a while and I then tell her to "suck it". This made her almost lose it and says "Don't tell me what to do! I know what to do! Or maybe you want to finish yourself and I call security? ! " I was almost chocked to hear this and calmed her down and got my suspicions confirmed that she believes it's her. Not me. That's the problem. I apologize if I offended her, tell her to relax, and also explain to her that I've had three sessions today already and that it's hard for me to finish if I've had as much sex as I had today. She first looks at me with her eyebrow looking like this . As if I she didn't believe me. But then does relax and says "OK, I understand" or something like that. She then continues the BBBJ with her hand and mouth around my cock, and we try lots of stuff but I'm just not getting there. She suggests I do it while she has her mouth around the top of my cock, and we try it but it unfortunately isn't working. I then suggest she stand doggy in front of me while I do it myself, and this turn out to be working. I am close to coming and tell her to come here to my cock, she quickly does so and takes care of the rest of the jerking (and sucking) to make me come and I blow my load in her mouth, but she does that open-mouth-to-let-sperm-out-trick and only gets a portion of my cum in her mouth I guess. Nevertheless, it was really, really nice. I then lie there for a minute while she smiles and wipes off the cum of her face and then wraps my cock in a paper too. She's suddenly much happier and tells me "We'll both have a smoke now! " I respond by telling her that she can have a smoke and I can have a snus, and she repeats what I say ("OK, you can have a snus, I'll have a smoke") while smiling. We then spend 10 mins. Talking and she then says something that I don't get, but we then head off to the safebox. Again with our arms connected to each other. And I give her 170 Euros for the 60 mins. Of sex plus the CIM. So we're in the safebox area and she says something in German to a woman in the reception, and then heads off to talk to her. That's good, because I just noticed that I was short on cash and had to try out the cash-machine they got the near entrance to the stairs and the main bar. This was a huge gamble. Had it not been working, I'd be in trouble and she'd surely get pissed off. But it did work!. And I withdrew another 240 Euros from it, and managed to sneak behind her to the safebox area, although I think she saw me on my way back but not what I did before. So then I give her her 170 Euros. She then explicitly asks for a drink tip, which I don't mind giving her because she did give me two good sessions and some GFE (tongue-exchange, some DFK, squeezing her tits, carefully slapping her tanned ass, etc.) So she gets another 10 Euros and then smiles, kisses me and then I lock the wallet in and she kisses me again. This time it's a goodbye kiss. I then walk down to the wellness bar to get a drink, because I don't "dare" going into the main bar where all the girls are and I'd probably have to reject a lot of the new girls that have arrived for the night shift (20:00-05:00 pm). So I have a drink, relax a bit at the bar downstairs, then decide it's time to leave (by now the time is about 1 pm), and on my way back up stairs, I'm stopped by a pair of girls. One blonde, the other black-haired. The latter is apparently from Slovakia and is OK, but I try to explain to her that I've got no energy left for her, especially not her and her blonde friend as she was suggesting. So she tries everything to get me, that is, she tries to disprove anything I say to get away. That was a little annoying and in the end I just laughed at it all. Then she caught sight of a Turkish man whom she jokingly called "Turkish Sultan" and tries to flirt with him, but he wants to get up and doesn't stop and he then secretly points at another probably German man in his 50's who's "idling" at the staircase. I see my chance to get away and continue upstairs, get my final shower, get dressed and turn in the robe and the slippers. Then I proceed down to the reception to turn in the key and the other thing, but forgetting to fetch my wallet. Fortunately enough, the woman asked me if I had cleared my safebox and the fact that I hadn't totally caught me off-guard. I get my key again and go fetch my wallet, then on my way out I thank her very much, hop into one of the cabs outside and return home. The cabfare is about 8 Euros to my hotel, which's close to Savignyplatz. I give him 10 Euros and call it even, get into the hotel room and prepare for the night as I was very tired. Then I think of the stuff I did and the stuff I could've done in Artemis and this keeps my awake and eventually I'm suddenly not tired again, and slap on the TV and find they're showing the fictional movie about the Secret Service-agent who was a traitor, but dubbed with German voices.
So, to sum it all up:
Bianca
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Age: 25
Nationality: Poland
Characteristics: Blonde, tall, nice body
GFE: Not really
Repeat: Probably not
Sessions: 2
Additional services taken: None
Cost: 120 Euro
Ella
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Age: 27
Nationality: Russian
Characteristics: Blonde, quite short, very fit and nice body
GFE: Absolutely!
Repeat: Definitely!
Sessions: 2
Additional services taken: None
Cost: 120 Euro plus 10 Euro tip
Annabella
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Age: 25-30
Nationality: Lithuanian
Characteristics: Blonde, tall, maybe a little chunky body, but nevertheless a fine ass and nice natural tits
GFE: Sort of
Repeat: Maybe
Sessions: 2
Additional services taken: CIM
Cost: 170 Euro plus 10 Euro tip
All in all
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Entrance fee: 80 Euros (paid with card)
6 sessions, 3 girls: 120 Euros + 130 Euros + 180 Euros
Sum: 430 Euro
Was it worth it all? Absolutely. Will I go today, now that I've spent 2 hours writing this report in this cold Internet cafe? Maybe. It's really cold outside and I can't do any of the "casual" sightseeing/shopping things I planned to do now. It all depends on little R.
PS: If any ISG:er is planning to be in Artemis within the next 5 days, let me know and we could perhaps meet up there. Or if you see rather short (175 cm or 5 feet 9), young (20-25) with dark-brown hair and pale skin, come forward and we can have talk and exchange our experiences that night. Ciao!
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Not Jack Kerouac
[QUOTE=Angus Magee]I have to ask, where does this quote come from? My guess would be Kerouac.[/QUOTE]Sorry to disappoint you, Angus. The quotation sounds like Kerouac, but its origin is rather profane. It has been taken from a wonderful book about hobos (Michael Mathers, Riding the Rails) which, incidentally, is still available secondhand from Amazon (I've just checked it). It is full of similar wisdoms. How about this one? "You find sympathy between shit and syphilis in the dictionary. " Could have been Kerouac as well, couldn't it?
Apologies to all readers of this thread for misusing it for something completely off-topic. It shall not happen again.
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to Rekarn
Rekarn,
Thankyou for the absolutley monster report and going to the trouble of doing it in an internet cafe so soon. I've been there and done that in a noisy internet gamers cafe in Moscow on a keyboard with odd layout etc ! I know many isg readers feed their addiction withdrawal symptoms between visits by reading reports like this, so thanks.
I especially like reading of first time FKKers first step into the hobby, you are changed forever my friend, welcome aboard.
Just a couple of comments.
It may be an internet cafe thing, but a few more line breaks and paragraph breaks would help readers on such a long detailed report, but I am being picky !
Also, you may get some comments on your tipping. The general concensus is don't! The reason being it could lead to tipping being expected and eventually poorer service will be provided to regulars who dont tip. If we all end up tipping general prices effectively increase. "Good" service should be expected for standard prices.
So, how to reward an above "good" service, eg a GFE or a girl working extra hard for you (as your last girl) ?... simple, repeat next visit, or go for a CIM finish or other extra to boost their earnings/time rate. This sounds hard nosed, especially when one is full of happy chemicals after a GFE session with connections etc, but remember it's only a game and a business to them. Also, if mongering with company, you could introduce/reccomend them, the girls will appreciate this. I note you extended to an hour each time anyway, which they love, they would have probably spent the 30 mins hunting otherwise.
Top report though, sounds like your radar works and you treated the girls well. Welcome to our world and much more fun to come.
Thanks
DT
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[QUOTE=Rekarn]Ok gentlemen, I promised a report and here it is!
I'm still in Berlin. Right now in an Internet cafe on some street called Liebknechtstrasse (I think). And I'm staying for another 5 days, so more reports might follow.[/QUOTE]Nice report, I enjoyed it! A little long but worth the read.
I will be in Berlin this weekend and would enjoy some company in between sessions. Will arrive late on Friday, should be at Artemis between 11pm (23:00) and midnight. On Saturday, I will also be there, probably early and then leave to come back later. On Sunday, I might take a trip to Kamilla Dee.
So hope to see you and other ISG members there.
I am 36 years old (might look a bit younger), normal height (181 cm or 6 feet),
pale skin, not muscular, blonde short hair and blue eyes.
I have visited Artemis on 2 trips before (4 days) and also been to Oase and Palace once each. So I have a little FKK experience!
This being my first post here, I would like to say this:
Sorry to all for not writing any reports from earlier trips, but I will have to make one this time. Thanks to everyone who has provided me with directions and other tips earlier. Your efforts are appreciated :-)
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[QUOTE=Rekarn]<snip>Then I proceed down to the reception to turn in the key and the other thing, but forgetting to fetch my wallet. Fortunately enough, the woman asked me if I had cleared my safebox and the fact that I hadn't totally caught me off-guard.<snip>[/QUOTE] Quite common for guys to forget the stuff in the little lockers. I always put my car keys in there so I can't go far. If you are not driving, put one of your socks in there and you should notice you are missing something when walking out.
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Tjena Rekarn! =)
[QUOTE=Rekarn]I took a seat in a sofa behind him and had a Snus[/QUOTE]Nice to see a Swedish in here \o/
Great report, but as Dick says: "It may be an internet cafe thing, but a few more line breaks and paragraph breaks would help readers on such a long detailed report, but I am being picky!"
Anyway, it sounds you had a great time. Im trying to convince som friends to go in late feb. But I'll go by my self anyway if they dont =)
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CIM technique and Security
[QUOTE=Rekarn]She jerks me off for a while and I then tell her to "suck it". This made her almost lose it and says "Don't tell me what to do! I know what to do! Or maybe you want to finish yourself and I call security? ! "[/QUOTE]I forgot to qoute this thing. Call security? What the hell would she say to them? She sounds really annoying. She was probably worried to NOT get the extra 50 for CIM.
Btw, this CIM thing, for me CIM is when the girl have her mouth "closed" and still giving a BJ when i finnish. Wich way is the more common for this 50 euro extra in FKK clubs?
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Hi,
Thanks so much for the infor. I see that there is a Messe on the 17th
[url]http://www1.messe-berlin.de/vip8_1/website/Internet/Internet/www.messe-berlin/englisch/index.html[/url]
Or is this the wrong place to look? I dont want to be there if it is chokefull of men!
[QUOTE=Angus Magee]While no expert of the rhythms of the club I would guess that the later you left it in the month the better. I also ended up at Artemis this past Saturday evening after deciding last minute to go. There was definitely a significant shortage of women. For me it did not matter as I went hoping to meet up with a particular girl and quickly found her sitting alone at the down stairs bar right after I had finished a round of sauna and soak. We chatted for a while and then it was upstairs for an hour long session-which was great BTW.
I stayed a while after just to watch and there were lots of guys milling around the stairs as Dick1 mentions.
That being said, there were still plenty of girls to be had. You just had to be quick and not dither too much. There were girls hanging at the bar and I was approached by a number of girls. They were still looking for business in other words.
I think that one of the downsides of an FKK like Artemis is that one gets used to so much choice. It is pretty easy to start to get into a cycle where one is certain that "the next one I meet will be better, more gorgeous, better tits, etc.. You can go on like this all night and miss a perfectly acceptable experience.
Myself, I am thinking of another visit in two week on the 17th.
I'm hooked, I might as well admit it...[/QUOTE]
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Rekarn
Thanks for the report. You seem to have had a good time, unsurprisingly.
Yes, Bianca is one of the girls who works the room very hard, and can be annoyingly persistent. And it doesn't seem that she offers that great service either. She went straight to the CBJ, so she sounds like one of those who do not offer BBBJ at Artemis. But she's a great looker, I agree.
Ella and her silis have been around for ages. With her attitude she is really a good choice for a new guy to the club. It's a real pity you didn't eventually go for Miriam. She would be even better. Top performer. Don't miss her again if you go back.
And, yes, follow Dick Travel's advice on the tipping. The charge is already EUR 10 higher than in most German clubs, and we should not spoil it for our local hosts. They do not want us to spoil their patch, and they go more often than we do. Except Angus. Remember also, Germany is not a culture where tipping plays a big role.
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[QUOTE=Rekarn]Ok gentlemen, I promised a report and here it is!
I'm still in Berlin. Right now in an Internet cafe on some street called Liebknechtstrasse (I think). And I'm staying for another 5 days, so more reports might follow.
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Great report Rekarn. Thanks for making the effort to write in such detail your experiences.
I would also suggest paragraphs as one does tend to get lost in the middle of such great big blocks of text.
As for Bianca/shark question. Sounds to me that she is not really what I myself would term a shark. As with the aquatic variety of shark, when bitten by an FKK shark there is no question in your mind as to the sharky-ness of the experience. Sounds like she was just a bit of a lackluster performer. Perhaps the chemistry was just not quite right.
I hope the rest of your stay is enjoyable and that you get back to Artemis soon (or else where) and keep up the good reports.
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[QUOTE=Rogerpaul]Hi,
Thanks so much for the infor. I see that there is a Messe on the 17th
[url]http://www1.messe-berlin.de/vip8_1/website/Internet/Internet/www.messe-berlin/englisch/index.html[/url]
Or is this the wrong place to look? I dont want to be there if it is chokefull of men![/QUOTE]
That is the right place to look but one never really knows what the ratio of men/women will be until one arrives and pays the fee. If there is an event on that does mean lots of men. But the women also know this and so may also turn out in larger numbers on that evening. Personally I have generally had a better time when the place is busy as the women are more relaxed and the girls who really work the room are occupied.
I am still a bit undecided about the 17th. I have to wait and see how work goes next week but will keep you posted.
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A question
Last time I was at Artemis, after I had had my session with my current favorite, I was having a bite in the eating area when she also came in for a snack. Seeing me she asked if the chair next to me was free (it was) and we sat together while eating.
We had been chatting about some mutual interests just after the session and she had recommended a web address to me that I knew I would have trouble remembering but wanted to visit. I asked her now if she had a pen so that I could write down the address. She told me no and that the girls were not allowed to carry pens and that if seen writing something down the management would think that we were exchanging phone info and this is not allowed.
So my question; is this in fact true? I was kind of hoping after the next session to ask her for a cell number so that I could sms in future to make sure that she is working on a night I am thinking of visiting. It would be nice to have this info before shelling out the 80€ entrance fee.This has already happened once to me.
Another question; do the girls generally welcome such loyalties? Old Angus is just a little bit stuck on this girl....
Thanks
AM
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Pen in Artemis and not penis in Artemen
We had been chatting about some mutual interests just after the session and she had recommended a web address to me that I knew I would have trouble remembering but wanted to visit. I asked her now if she had a pen so that I could write down the address. She told me no and that the girls were not allowed to carry pens and that if seen writing something down the management would think that we were exchanging phone info and this is not allowed.
So my question; is this in fact true? I was kind of hoping after the next session to ask her for a cell number so that I could sms in future to make sure that she is working on a night I am thinking of visiting. It would be nice to have this info before shelling out the 80€ entrance fee.This has already happened once to me.
Another question; do the girls generally welcome such loyalties? Old Angus is just a little bit stuck on this girl.
Thanks
AM[/QUOTE]Angus
I was in Artemis (about 2 month ago) and one of the girl wants to give me her email adress, so I asked at the bar, a girl gave me a pen and it was possible to write her email on a paper, nobody told me anything and I am sure that if I have written her phone number it will be the same; Maybe I was lucky don't know Just one thing I have written 2 email to this girl and never she never answers me ha ha ha.
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]That is the right place to look but one never really knows what the ratio of men/women will be until one arrives and pays the fee. If there is an event on that does mean lots of men. But the women also know this and so may also turn out in larger numbers on that evening. Personally I have generally had a better time when the place is busy as the women are more relaxed and the girls who really work the room are occupied.
I am still a bit undecided about the 17th. I have to wait and see how work goes next week but will keep you posted.
AM[/QUOTE]Angus. I will come on Saturday 17th.come on.come with us!
I hope will be a good evening/night because I can't come for next moth.
I hope will be a lot of girls!
And. One quiestion to Angus. I never have problem of free room in an FKK. If will be on 17th what I can do? Can we enjoy with the girl everywhere or I must wait with her in front of the room door? Please let me know how works in this situation because I always find free rooms!
And. We see on 17th at the Artemis!
Fichetta
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Angus in love
[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Last time I was at Artemis, after I had had my session with my current favorite, I was having a bite in the eating area when she also came in for a snack. Seeing me she asked if the chair next to me was free (it was) and we sat together while eating.
We had been chatting about some mutual interests just after the session and she had recommended a web address to me that I knew I would have trouble remembering but wanted to visit. I asked her now if she had a pen so that I could write down the address. She told me no and that the girls were not allowed to carry pens and that if seen writing something down the management would think that we were exchanging phone info and this is not allowed.
So my question; is this in fact true? I was kind of hoping after the next session to ask her for a cell number so that I could sms in future to make sure that she is working on a night I am thinking of visiting. It would be nice to have this info before shelling out the 80€ entrance fee.This has already happened once to me.
Another question; do the girls generally welcome such loyalties? Old Angus is just a little bit stuck on this girl....
Thanks dhi
AM[/QUOTE]
So, Angus has found his puppy, I'm happy for you, man.
Many of the clubs do frown on out of the club contact since they're afraid that it will lead to out of the club paid sessions. Many of the girls are also hesitant in giving their personal data for understandable reasons. That said, if your loyalty is known to her and she feels it and is also interested in maintaining that status, she'll find a way to get you her number, like writing it down on a piece of paper in the toilet or locker room and handing it to you on the sly.
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Artemis Sat and Sun
Making my debut this sat in Artemis.
I don't think I'll sleep with the pre match excitement! I'm in sunday also,so hope to see some of you there.
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee] So my question; is this in fact true? I was kind of hoping after the next session to ask her for a cell number so that I could sms in future to make sure that she is working on a night I am thinking of visiting. It would be nice to have this info before shelling out the 80€ entrance fee.This has already happened once to me.
Another question; do the girls generally welcome such loyalties? Old Angus is just a little bit stuck on this girl....[/QUOTE]
Hi Angus Magee,
I am not close to your situation but in my experience my favoured girls are very happy to give me their handy numbers or email addresses. I prefer the handy number as that gives more instant response from girls.
Yes, even in my forway at Artemis I have been given girls' handy numbers - we did it at the valuable lockers where my handy was being stored and when we were paying up or in the room as I had my handy in my robe pocket.
It is always nice knowing when a girl is working before commiting to that hefty entritt fee. Especially as I am a foreigner coming from inclement shores.
Londonbasketcase
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[QUOTE=Rainmadra]Making my debut this sat in Artemis.
I don't think I'll sleep with the pre match excitement! I'm in sunday also,so hope to see some of you there.[/QUOTE]Hi!
I will be at Artemis sunday evening (probably late) and throughout Monday. Would be nice to meet anyone from the forum for some mutual exploration of Berlin.
Jens
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Girl's Handi Numbers
I guess it is quite possible that I misunderstood the girl. My German does not always pass the test of complex communication. I guess my puzzlement stems from the fact that I was asking to write down a web address, or rather a name so that I could google the web address and thus I was not even asking for her handi number. Were is asking her number and she said this I would a say that she was saying no without having to actually say no.
I will ask directly next time. In the room away from prying eyes...
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Angus In Love
[QUOTE=Iseeu]So, Angus has found his puppy, I'm happy for you, man.
Many of the clubs do frown on out of the club contact since they're afraid that it will lead to out of the club paid sessions. Many of the girls are also hesitant in giving their personal data for understandable reasons. That said, if your loyalty is known to her and she feels it and is also interested in maintaining that status, she'll find a way to get you her number, like writing it down on a piece of paper in the toilet or locker room and handing it to you on the sly.[/QUOTE]
Well I would not go so far as to say Angus is IN LOVE. Perhaps that he has formed a strong attachment. And I am not entirely happy about it as I have been down this road before, more than once, and it has always ended badly.
I keep asking myself, don't I go to these places to avoid such attachment?
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Saturday night, Jan. 17th
It looks like there may just be a few ISGers there next week. We will have to figure out a way of meeting up. Perhaps down in the sauna area bar at 7:00 p.m.?
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[QUOTE=Fichetta]Angus. I will come on Saturday 17th.come on.come with us!
I hope will be a good evening/night because I can't come for next moth.
I hope will be a lot of girls!
And. One quiestion to Angus. I never have problem of free room in an FKK. If will be on 17th what I can do? Can we enjoy with the girl everywhere or I must wait with her in front of the room door? Please let me know how works in this situation because I always find free rooms!
And. We see on 17th at the Artemis!
Fichetta[/QUOTE]
In my experience it does get a bit busy later on Saturday night and often there is a room wait. However there are some alternatives.
You can always use the open kinos to have sex and no one minds at all. Though perhaps not all girls would be into this. You would have to ask the girl.
There is a downstairs kino to with a couple of semi private (they are rooms but with open ceilings and curtains for doors so they can be noisy and you will be heard by those in the kino) rooms. But I have also had to wait for one of these rooms as there are only two.
Another option is the beds in the main bar. They are equipped with curtains that can be pulled providing privacy at least from prying eyes. Though again they will be noisy as you are right there in the middle of all the main bar action.
In my experience, the wait for the room with a girl, if you have chosen wisely, can be put to very good use. You can always have a bit of a snog while waiting and get to know the girl a bit better.
Though one of my most awkward experiences so far at Artemis was with a girl that I had chosen purely on visual appeal. We had a 5 minute wait for an upstairs room. She was not really very cuddly and shall we say that the conversation was stilted. The girl was completely humorless as far as I could tell.
Though once in the room the ice thawed somewhat and she was actually laughing towards the end of the session during the clean up. I guess I just love a challenge.
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]In my experience it does get a bit busy later on Saturday night and often there is a room wait. However there are some alternatives.
You can always use the open kinos to have sex and no one minds at all. Though perhaps not all girls would be into this. You would have to ask the girl.
There is a downstairs kino to with a couple of semi private (they are rooms but with open ceilings and curtains for doors so they can be noisy and you will be heard by those in the kino) rooms. But I have also had to wait for one of these rooms as there are only two.
Another option is the beds in the main bar. They are equipped with curtains that can be pulled providing privacy at least from prying eyes. Though again they will be noisy as you are right there in the middle of all the main bar action.
In my experience, the wait for the room with a girl, if you have chosen wisely, can be put to very good use. You can always have a bit of a snog while waiting and get to know the girl a bit better.
Though one of my most awkward experiences so far at Artemis was with a girl that I had chosen purely on visual appeal. We had a 5 minute wait for an upstairs room. She was not really very cuddly and shall we say that the conversation was stilted. The girl was completely humorless as far as I could tell.
Though once in the room the ice thawed somewhat and she was actually laughing towards the end of the session during the clean up. I guess I just love a challenge. [/QUOTE]Hi Angus!
. Thanks for the answear. You are right. There are very different way to spend time with girl if all rooms are busy!
Another things. And I think that this is important for all ISG user: if you spend a Saturday night in a FKK club you know that there are a lot gilrs and a lot of boy and of course there are a a lot of fluid exchange! So (as I think you know! ) there are a lot of chance to have some health problems (like some infection! ). So my question is this:
I want to chose 3 or 4 girls in my Saturday night but not with all I want to have uncovered BJ to reduce the risk of health problems.
Is a problem to ask the girls to have cover BJ instead of uncovered?
Is usual to ask this to a girl (in a FKK! ) or the girl can easly see you in a different way (like to say "this is not normal and may can have some health problems! ").
I hope you understand my situation because I don't want to come back with a sort of present!
Another thing. I will be at Artemis later than 7 pm of 17th January. Can we meet with all ISG user at the sauna area at 10 pm. Is too late?
Thank so much Angus. In anyhow we see Saturday night at Artemis. How I can recognize you?
Fichetta
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[QUOTE=Fichetta]Hi Angus!
. Thanks for the answear. You are right. There are very different way to spend time with girl if all rooms are busy!
Another things. And I think that this is important for all ISG user: if you spend a Saturday night in a FKK club you know that there are a lot gilrs and a lot of boy and of course there are a a lot of fluid exchange! So (as I think you know! ) there are a lot of chance to have some health problems (like some infection! ). So my question is this:
I want to chose 3 or 4 girls in my Saturday night but not with all I want to have uncovered BJ to reduce the risk of health problems.
Is a problem to ask the girls to have cover BJ instead of uncovered?
Is usual to ask this to a girl (in a FKK! ) or the girl can easly see you in a different way (like to say "this is not normal and may can have some health problems! ").
I hope you understand my situation because I don't want to come back with a sort of present!
Another thing. I will be at Artemis later than 7 pm of 17th January. Can we meet with all ISG user at the sauna area at 10 pm. Is too late?
Thank so much Angus. In anyhow we see Saturday night at Artemis. How I can recognize you?
Fichetta[/QUOTE]
My feeling is that if you want a girl to use a condom for bj just ask her to do so. No need to go into explanations as to why you want it that way. I doubt any would say no or turn you down. They would just assume, rightly, that you are concerned about health matters.
As to how we meet up. I'll get back on that one. But yes, a later meeting would also work and in fact could be better.
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]My feeling is that if you want a girl to use a condom for bj just ask her to do so. No need to go into explanations as to why you want it that way. I doubt any would say no or turn you down. They would just assume, rightly, that you are concerned about health matters.
As to how we meet up. I'll get back on that one. But yes, a later meeting would also work and in fact could be better.[/QUOTE]Thank Angus. I know that all girls have nothing to say if I ask "all covered" but I don't know if this "rule" is valid also in an fkk that mean "culture of free body". So. "covered" is not equal than "free"! Maybe I say a stupid think but I want to ask you to don't have problems with girls. Understand? !
And about the ISG meeting on sauna area:
To all ISG: we meet at artemis on Saturday 17th January on sauna area at 22. 00 or some later!
And Angus. Take with you a small flag with write "ISG". I'm joiking of course!
Fichetta
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]My feeling is that if you want a girl to use a condom for bj just ask her to do so. No need to go into explanations as to why you want it that way. ...[/QUOTE]If she asks why, just tell her you've got the clap.
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Is Artemis worth a sidetrip?
I'm heading from Prague to Stockholm. Is Artemis worth a slight detour to Berlin for? Artemis would be the only reason I would make the sidetrip. I was at the Hessen FKKs about 2 weeks back. How does it compare to them?
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[QUOTE=JustGotBack]I'm heading from Prague to Stockholm. Is Artemis worth a slight detour to Berlin for? Artemis would be the only reason I would make the sidetrip. I was at the Hessen FKKs about 2 weeks back. How does it compare to them?[/QUOTE]
Hard to say if it is "worth" it. I can not comment on any comparison to Hessen FKK as I have never been there. I guess I'll just put the question to you-How much do you value a room full of top shelf pussy?
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[QUOTE=Fichetta]Thank Angus. I know that all girls have nothing to say if I ask "all covered" but I don't know if this "rule" is valid also in an fkk that mean "culture of free body". So. "covered" is not equal than "free"! Maybe I say a stupid think but I want to ask you to don't have problems with girls. Understand? !
And about the ISG meeting on sauna area:
To all ISG: we meet at artemis on Saturday 17th January on sauna area at 22. 00 or some later!
And Angus. Take with you a small flag with write "ISG". I'm joiking of course!
Fichetta[/QUOTE]
Hi,
No worries about asking questions. But I have to comment that I think that you think too much about these things. Just show up, have fun and respect your own limits, i.e. keep it covered for the bj & otherwise.
I am 100% certain that you will not be the first man to ask for cbj at Artemis. I would hope that any man with a wife or GF at home who is not aware of the man's extra curricular activities would do the same. While the risk of catching anything too, too bad from bbbj is not great, there is a risk involved and to bring that home to an unknowing partner would be unpleasant for all involved.
Better safe than sorry.
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What does GFE mean?
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Being a foreigner, do I need to bring my passport with me to Artemis or can I leave it at the hotel?
What, besides cash, do I need to take with me to Artemis?
I'm planning to go to Artemis on a tuesday, what time do you recommend to get there?
Regards
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The answer is yes
[QUOTE=Concan]Being a foreigner, do I need to bring my passport with me to Artemis or can I leave it at the hotel?
What, besides cash, do I need to take with me to Artemis?
I'm planning to go to Artemis on a tuesday, what time do you recommend to get there?
Regards[/QUOTE]
If there is a [i]Razzia[/i] or a police raid, you will need to show a passport. You cannot go running around the country without an ID. They will ask for similar documentation if you are stopped driving a car or in the subway or walking down a street.
I've never stopped in Germany (No, wait. I was stopped once leaving GT behind the wheel of a car - it was an alcohol check) but the police have the right to accost you anywhere, anytime in France and demand to see an ID. Its done very often in the Paris subway.
They also had a requirement that you have a minimum amount of money on you (I can't remember correctly any more it was something like 50 Francs - this was way before they introduced the Euro).
This isn't the US and they have the right to do so.
I'm sure that if you were arrested they won't be reading your Miranda rights either: "You have the right to remain silent... "
Besides cash bring a healthy libido.
I will leave it to someone else to answer your third question.
What else do you want to know?
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[QUOTE=Concan]What does GFE mean?
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GFE =Girl Friend Experience. However, what makes up a GFE is personal to each monger.
For me it has to do with the rapport I share with a girl. That is if the experience goes a bit deeper than the normal experience with a paid companion. It is more of a feeling I get when with a girl than a grocery list of acts she performs on me.
For me they are rare and sometime a bit confusing...
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[QUOTE=Concan]Being a foreigner, do I need to bring my passport with me to Artemis or can I leave it at the hotel?
What, besides cash, do I need to take with me to Artemis?
I'm planning to go to Artemis on a tuesday, what time do you recommend to get there?
Regards[/QUOTE]
That depends upon what you want from the evening. If you want plenty of sauna time arrive a bit early (16:00?) and use the facilities.
If it is more of just a sex related visit I thing 19:00 is a pretty good time to arrive. The evening shift has arrived and settled in.
A much more pertinent question might be what time to leave. I have had the feeling of being "stuck" at Artemis on more than one occasion, knowing I should leave but seemingly unable to go. It sort of reminded me of that line from The Eagles "Hotel California"-
'You can check-out any time you like,
But you can never leave!'
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[QUOTE=Jackyo]If there is a [i]Razzia[/i] or a police raid, you will need to show a passport. You cannot go running around the country without an ID. They will ask for similar documentation if you are stopped driving a car or in the subway or walking down a street.
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Yikes-better start carrying some ID Angus!
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[QUOTE=Jackyo]If there is a [i]Razzia[/i] or a police raid, you will need to show a passport. You cannot go running around the country without an ID. They will ask for similar documentation if you are stopped driving a car or in the subway or walking down a street.
I've never stopped in Germany (No, wait. I was stopped once leaving GT behind the wheel of a car - it was an alcohol check) but the police have the right to accost you anywhere, anytime in France and demand to see an ID. Its done very often in the Paris subway.
They also had a requirement that you have a minimum amount of money on you (I can't remember correctly any more it was something like 50 Francs - this was way before they introduced the Euro).
This isn't the US and they have the right to do so.
I'm sure that if you were arrested they won't be reading your Miranda rights either: "You have the right to remain silent... "
Besides cash bring a healthy libido.
I will leave it to someone else to answer your third question.
What else do you want to know?[/QUOTE]Ok, thanks!
It's just that I'm a little bit worried to leave my passport in a box at Artemis, since I need it to get home again. I'm from Sweden BTW. I would feel more comfortable having my passport, flight tickets and credit cards in a safe at the hotel and only bring cash to Artemis.
Do you think an ID / Driver license is good enough if there is a razzia? (Does that happen often?)
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]That depends upon what you want from the evening. If you want plenty of sauna time arrive a bit early (16:00?) and use the facilities.
If it is more of just a sex related visit I thing 19:00 is a pretty good time to arrive. The evening shift has arrived and settled in.
A much more pertinent question might be what time to leave. I have had the feeling of being "stuck" at Artemis on more than one occasion, knowing I should leave but seemingly unable to go. It sort of reminded me of that line from The Eagles "Hotel California"-
'You can check-out any time you like,
But you can never leave!'[/QUOTE]You´re a funny guy Angus.
So the evening shift starts at 18:00? Do all the girls work on a schedule? I ask because I want to know what time there usually is a good selection of girls and not too many guys but I guess that is hard to tell?
Thanks
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[QUOTE=Concan]Ok, thanks!
It's just that I'm a little bit worried to leave my passport in a box at Artemis, since I need it to get home again. I'm from Sweden BTW. I would feel more comfortable having my passport, flight tickets and credit cards in a safe at the hotel and only bring cash to Artemis.
Do you think an ID / Driver license is good enough if there is a razzia? (Does that happen often?)[/QUOTE]
Artemis is a legal business. The chances of there being a police raid are about as close to zero as possible. I would guess that unless they were dealing dope out the back door there will be no raids. Oh and I guess that there could be the question of illegal girls working but we are really stretching it here.
As for the safety of the lock boxes-well lets just say that there are probably thousands of euros of cash stored in those boxes at any given moment that Artemis is open. Unless you yourself are careless with your own key anything in that box is almost as safe as back in the hotel.
All that being said-my own feeling is that any piece of picture ID would do to carry for the highly, highly unlikely event of a raid.
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[QUOTE=Concan]You´re a funny guy Angus.
So the evening shift starts at 18:00? Do all the girls work on a schedule? I ask because I want to know what time there usually is a good selection of girls and not too many guys but I guess that is hard to tell?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
As I understand it the girls show up at the club just like the men, pay their entrance fee and get to work. So I am guessing that they can show up anytime.
From my observation though lots of girls seem to arrive around 18:00 and are out in force by 19:00. But there always seems to be girls there.
And yes, the girl/guy ratio is always a bit hard to predict. But don't worry, there almost always seems to be enough girls. It is their job to know when to be there. Like a taxi driver knows what time the show ends at the theater.
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Artemis is a legal business. The chances of there being a police raid are about as close to zero as possible. I would guess that unless they were dealing dope out the back door there will be no raids. Oh and I guess that there could be the question of illegal girls working but we are really stretching it here.
As for the safety of the lock boxes-well lets just say that there are probably thousands of euros of cash stored in those boxes at any given moment that Artemis is open. Unless you yourself are careless with your own key anything in that box is almost as safe as back in the hotel.
All that being said-my own feeling is that any piece of picture ID would do to carry for the highly, highly unlikely event of a raid.[/QUOTE]
Hey Angus (our man in B-Town),
Not sure how often Artemis has to deal with a "Razzia" but legal business or not, this is something that ever FKK in Germany has to expect from time to time. It really is usually not that big a deal, but having either your passport or some type of accepted ID just in case is a good idea.
I've posted about this topic before, but it is worth repeating. I've been in different clubs during various raids. Most were simply routine and a few were close to scary (Oase, a few years back). The first one I was ever at happened at Babylon. They kept all the guys in one area and the girls in another. All of the guys had their identification documents looked at very carefully and even photographed. One dude had to leave with the police because he had no ID on him. He was probably OK, but the cops were serious about their control that day.
Here's the point: If you have acceptable identification when a raid occurs (and you are not a wanted man), then a Razzia may be annoying, but it is relatively painless. Carrying one's passport, or European identity card into a club is a sensible way to avoid possible inconveniences that the German Kripo can cause a Gent if they decide to.
Artemis is a safe club and a guy's passport and wallet are going to be fine in those tiny lockers.
Cheers,
Dedalus
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]As I understand it the girls show up at the club just like the men, pay their entrance fee and get to work. So I am guessing that they can show up anytime.
[/QUOTE] Usually it is not that simple. There are some rules about arrival and departure times. In most clubs, if a girl is going to work the early shift, she has to arrive before a certain time to be "allowed" to leave on a certain time. if she arrives after that certain time, she is expected to work later, sometimes until club closing. The enforcement is done in such a way that if you do not follow the club rules on it, you cannot expect to be allowed to apply your trade in there. There is also a time limit how late you are allowed to arrive. In one club I remember it to be that if you are not there before 8pm, the girl is not allowed to work that night. The rules are different from club to club, and some girls that are regular and have been working there for years are often given more slack in some clubs, but complete freedom of arrival and departure is usually not the norm.
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Hello again, gentlemen!
First off, thank you all for the kind words on my first report, I always appreciate feedback!
I'm heading home today and have a flight to catch in a few hours, so I can for now only give you my report on my second day at Artemis.
But first though, a few corrections to my last report:
When you get off the train at Westkreuz, the signs above the stairs aren't yellow at all as I first stated, but the standard dark blue as in all stations.
You get up the stairs and then another set of (smaller) stairs, and you then get to another platform. Look for some stairs that seem to be at the "end" of the platform and walk toward it.
You should now see a sign which says "Ausgang" and something else, get up it and the rest you already know ("tunnel", parking lot, etc.) I'd just like to make this clear so some other ISGer won't be walking around looking for some stairs with a yellow sign hanging above.
And also a general tip for anyone travelling with the local transport in Berlin: as someone else stated, make sure you ALWAYS put your ticket in the little red box OUTSIDE the trains (on the actual platform).
I usually keep an eye on the digital display to see when my train comes and when there's 1-2 mins. Left, I stick my ticket into the box and get it validated. I never got checked once during my trips, but you never know.
The same is true for U-bahn (little red box on the platform itself), but for buses you usually buy a ticket onboard or use the ticket-machine onboard.
OK, so day two wasn't as exciting as the first day, but it was OK anyway. I had spent the day doing some shopping and visiting a few places, so this time I wasn't as early as before.
It was about 2 pm when I walked off the train and stepped out into the freezing cold which would've killed me had I stayed outside for more than 5 mins.
So being confronted with this horrible cold, I stepped up the pace and escaped the cold into the warm surroundings of Artemis.
I came in, was greeted by a new lady this time, who asked me if I was new to the place. "No", I said, and took out my ID card and Visa-card, and again paid with a card.
She put the bracelet on my arm, gave me my key and robe and said welcome. This time I immediately went to the ATM-machine and withdrew 200 Euros (I had about 100 Euros in my wallet), and then proceeded to the safebox and put my wallet in there. Took a quick shower as I had just showered back at the hotel, and then proceeded to the main bar (lounge) where I ordered a drink.
This time I wasn't approached by a single girl during my stay in the bar, which I didn't mind anyway as I wanted to have my drink and relax. I then proceeded downstairs and went to the gym.
Lifted some weights and then proceeded to the wellness bar, where a few gentlemen were sitting.
I then proceeded to the sofa near the door (can't remember what kind of a door, maybe emergency exit) and was soon approached by a fairly decent and "curvy" Eastern European blonde (coloured) girl with big tits. Her name was Isabell or Isabella, IIRC, and she was about 22-23 years old. She sat down beside me (to my right), put her right leg around mine and started touching and stuff.
She started talking to me, asking the basic questions you know ("what's your name", etc). I then asked her some questions, but didn't feel like it was a good converation considering how she responded to my questions (she always seemed to look for an answer that would satisfy me, but for that I guess I can't blame her). Then she started touching little R and although I wasn't really into anything now, he sure was. He went up which made her say something like "oooohhh, he's ready! " Feeling a bit embarrased, considering this was the wellness bar and with gentlemen around me, I tried to hide it and told her to relax and that we'd go later. She said OK. We'd sit there for another few minutes and she'd touch my legs and body in the meantime. I then said "OK, let's go" and she'd pick a room near the bottomlevel kino, one of those rooms which you cannot close but just "hide" in. There I'd lay down on her towel, and she'd kiss my chest and body, but not with such a passion that I would've wanted. Then she'd give me an OK BBBJ all while I was squeezing her wonderful tits and squeezing her ass. I then said I wanted to fuck her and that she should stand in doggy.
She nodded and put on a condom. Then I fucked her hard for a few mins. , fucking her deep and "slamming" my body into hers to get that "clapping"-sound. It was kinda exciting to at the same time know that others had a go in the room next to us (I could hear some moaning from there) and that there were people in the kino, as I heard voices. I'd then move her around to missionary, which was very nice as well. Eventually I felt that little R could use some of her mouth, so I asked her to suck me. She agreed, and took the condom off, wiped the cock clean and then started sucking. However, she'd be interrupted by a SMS during it all and "naturally" she had to reply. This kinda blew it for me as I had to wait for her and I generally felt that doing this during a session was something of a bad manner. Eventually I felt like doing her doggy again and would finish her in this position. She'd then pull out her stupid mobile phone again and read/write a SMS. We then went to the safebox and I paid her her money.
I then immediately told myself as I was entering the shower room that I'd not pick or recommend her again.
OK, so with a shower taken and a drink ordered, I found myself at the chairs near the pool in the wellness area again. Here I'd lie for 30-40 mins. , sometimes going up to order a drink or go to the bathroom.
I watched as some girls entered and then left the wellness area, but never giving them any eye-contact as I had to recover. I saw one girl, a young naturally tanned (by the looks of it) brunette whom I thought was German, but as I would find out a few days later she wasn't.
She was nonetheless beautiful, had a nice squezee-friendly ass, a cute face and a couple of nice tits. I was still recovering however, so I never took the chance to catch her. But I knew she'd be around later as I had seen her there around before.
I was feeling a bit bored and went to the kino nearby, but never sitting down as I didn't want any company just yet. I walked upstairs, checked the main bar and just genereally observed what happened.
Heard how some newbie (heh) was about to get snatched by a girl.
I then proceeded downstairs again and sat at the bar for some 15 mins. , and then again proceeded to the chairs again. I now checked the time and it was surprisingly much; 4 pm. Soon a dark-haired and tanned beauty with a nice ass would walk in and look for customers.
When she turned around, I recognized her face from yesterday as she tried to fish me up near the bottomlevel stairs. Her name was Conchetta (spelling? ) and she was of German-Italian descent. Her face was OK, she did have that "aggressive" look as she would also tell me during the session we were about to have. But we were still talking by my chair near the pool, and she'd also try to talk sexy with me and such to get me. I eventually agreed on going with her, so we went upstairs and she'd pick some nice room. Then she'd tell me to lay down, she'd also do the (what to me seemed standard) kissing of chest and tounge-exchange (but no real DFK), and then moved down to give me a very good BBBJ. During the time, I'd compliment her on her fine and tanned ass and her nice tits, which she seemed to appreciate, but would also point out that she was famous for her [BB]BJs and her looks (the "aggressive face").
She then told me I could cum in her mouth and I told her that "We'll see", knowing that I had a session just an hour or two ago and that I can't finish that easy when I already had one.
But she sure did try her best! I then said "I want to fuck you now", and she seemed to get rather disappointed that I hadn't finished yet, but she nonetheless took out a condom and put it on.
We started off missionary. She took my cock and put it in her pussy and told me to go in slowly, which I did. Then I realized just how tight she was compared to the others I've had.
But I didn't mind and gave her all I had. We'd continue for a few mins. And I then told her to move around, so I could do her doggy. This was even better and I felt that a few more mins. Of this and I'd come.
But I didn't "want" to finish just yet, I don't really know why now, but maybe I wanted to get the most out of her. So I then took it easy and told her to suck.
She'd then suck and would go nuts on my cock, unfortunately using a bit of teeth which kinda blew it for me as I all of a sudden felt a bit of pain down there. I didn't know what to say other than telling her to be gentle from now on, which she did. She'd then be gentle for a while and go faster, maybe because she spotted the time and realized they were closing soon.
She really tried everything she could to make me finish, but I could feel that it wasn't gonna happen sometime soon. Soon, someone was knocking on the door and we then knew that our time was up.
I felt a bit sorry for both myself and her, because I didn't get to finish with her and she didn't get to finish with me. I could also see she was a bit disappointed. While still in the room, I told her it was I that was the "problem", not her.
We then proceeded out of the room when she told me that "One more minute, and I would've had you! I swear, one more minute! " I kinda quietly agreed, but knowing that that wasn't the case. If we're talking 15-20 mins. , then maybe yes.
Anyway, I went down and gave her her money, almost ran into the shower and got ready very quickly to leave, as there were almost nobody left.
This time I remembered my wallet and took it out before I returned the key, then stepped outside again into the freezing cold and jumped into one of the cabs there.
Once again, 8-9 Euros for taking me back to my hotel. Got into my room and got ready for the night (morning? ), and then slept for too long the next day.
So, all in all:
Isabell/Isabella
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Age: 22-23
Nationality: Bulgaria
Characteristics: Blonde (coloured), average height, curvy body
GFE: Not really
Repeat: No
Sessions: 1
Additional services taken: None
Cost: 120 Euro
Conchetta
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Age: 24-25?
Nationality: German-Italian
Characteristics: Dark-haired, average height, nice body
GFE: Not really (some tounge-exchange and such, but that was it)
Repeat: Maybe
Sessions: 1
Additional services taken: None
Cost: 120 Euro
All in all
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Entrance fee: 80 Euros (paid with card)
2 sessions, 2 girls: 60 Euros + 60 Euros
Sum: 200 Euros
Worth it all? I could've maybe gotten better sex. I wanted to find Miriam and some other girls I had seen the other day, but I had no luck, and I then let myself get fished up by the "first best girl" instead. But sure, it was worth it.
I'll see if I can remember enough to post more reports when I get home, as I was at Artemis for a total of 4 times and had at least 2 girls / sessions each time. The last time I was there was this Saturday.
Until I get home. Ciao and happy hunting!
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Dedalus's advice is spot on. Razzias are always a possibility. Basic rule-of-thumb: if it'll get you through immigration at the airport, it'll be OK for a razzia at an FKK. I've not once visited an FKK without my passport.
It should be very safe in the locker.
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[QUOTE=Toscana]Dedalus's advice is spot on. Razzias are always a possibility. Basic rule-of-thumb: if it'll get you through immigration at the airport, it'll be OK for a razzia at an FKK. I've not once visited an FKK without my passport.
It should be very safe in the locker.[/QUOTE]
Well I am certainly grateful that this topic came up. Truth be told it would never have occurred to me to bring my passport on an Artemis visit and I have never heard of a Razzia before.
Just now I am imagining myself, snout deep in some lovelie's pussy and
there is a knock on the door, police bursting in! Not a pretty picture. Hopefully they handle it tactfully;-)
I guess in future I will be taking my pass port on all Artemis, or other FKK, visits.
Live and learn.
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[QUOTE=Rekarn]
She nodded and put on a condom. Then I fucked her hard for a few mins. , fucking her deep and "slamming" my body into hers to get that "clapping"-sound. It was kinda exciting to at the same time know that others had a go in the room next to us (I could hear some moaning from there) and that there were people in the kino, as I heard voices. I'd then move her around to missionary, which was very nice as well. Eventually I felt that little R could use some of her mouth, so I asked her to suck me. She agreed, and took the condom off, wiped the cock clean and then started sucking. However, she'd be interrupted by a SMS during it all and "naturally" she had to reply. This kinda blew it for me as I had to wait for her and I generally felt that doing this during a session was something of a bad manner. Eventually I felt like doing her doggy again and would finish her in this position. She'd then pull out her stupid mobile phone again and read/write a SMS. We then went to the safebox and I paid her her money.
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I can not quite believe that a girl would take and then return an sms during a session. Outrageous. Not sure what you could do otherwise but it would certainly [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] me off.
Though I do remember once in a sex kino (not in an FKK, a normal sex kino) having a young polish girl who answered her phone while I was fucking her doggy. She had a whole conversation (in Polish) while I was doing her. At first I was a bit put out but then I sort of enjoyed it. After I asked who was on the phone.
Her boyfriend, she replied.
Does he know what you do?
Oh no way, she answered.
This was a turn on. Poor guy if indeed he does not know.
Anyway, thanks again for the report. Keep em coming.
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incentive to start shift at opening time
Thanks Henio, that's interesting.
I also learnt about start time incentives. I was chatting with a girl once very early in a day, not long after a club had opened. There were maybe 3 men and 12 girls present. (nice!) and hence most of them were sitting about doing nothing.
I asked why she had come in so early when there were so few men, she explained there was a bonus by way of a discount off her entrance fee if she was "ready", eg, dressed (or rather undressed) and out on the floor by a certain time. I assume this would be maybe 30 mins after doors open.
She said the club benefited from knowing they'd have some girls early on, which meant some men would come in early.The girls of course got a discount off entrance fee as an incentive.
I believe I was in FKK World when I was told this, but I'm not certain. This may be the case in other clubs too.
[QUOTE=Henio]Usually it is not that simple. There are some rules about arrival and departure times. In most clubs, if a girl is going to work the early shift, she has to arrive before a certain time to be "allowed" to leave on a certain time. if she arrives after that certain time, she is expected to work later, sometimes until club closing. The enforcement is done in such a way that if you do not follow the club rules on it, you cannot expect to be allowed to apply your trade in there. There is also a time limit how late you are allowed to arrive. In one club I remember it to be that if you are not there before 8pm, the girl is not allowed to work that night. The rules are different from club to club, and some girls that are regular and have been working there for years are often given more slack in some clubs, but complete freedom of arrival and departure is usually not the norm.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Though I do remember once in a sex kino (not in an FKK, a normal sex kino) having a young polish girl who answered her phone while I was fucking her doggy. She had a whole conversation (in Polish) while I was doing her. At first I was a bit put out but then I sort of enjoyed it. After I asked who was on the phone.
Her boyfriend, she replied.
Does he know what you do?
Oh no way, she answered.
This was a turn on. [/QUOTE]
Yeah, I would not mind (and would actually enjoy) if a girl answered her phone while I was fucking her doggie in a Kino.
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I've had this happen before too...
[QUOTE=Angus Magee]I can not quite believe that a girl would take and then return an sms during a session. Outrageous. Not sure what you could do otherwise but it would certainly [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] me off.
Though I do remember once in a sex kino (not in an FKK, a normal sex kino) having a young polish girl who answered her phone while I was fucking her doggy. She had a whole conversation (in Polish) while I was doing her. At first I was a bit put out but then I sort of enjoyed it. After I asked who was on the phone.
Her boyfriend, she replied.
Does he know what you do?
Oh no way, she answered.
This was a turn on. Poor guy if indeed he does not know.
Anyway, thanks again for the report. Keep em coming.[/QUOTE]
... where the chick has taken a phone call in mid-session.
Most clubs have strict rules about women bringing phones into the club with them but they continue to do it and they will occasionally check for messages while in the club. Doing it in mid-session is mood killer, fer shure.
I was between this chick's legs once at Cocoon and she was letting out the appropriate sighs and moans when her phone rang. She took the call. I didn't stop what I was doing.
It was quite funny. She was on the phone with her Dutch boyfriend trying to give him coherent answers while trying to suppress her moans.
She finally just let go after she hung up.
I asked the very same question you did: Does he know you do this for a living.
Her answer was: oh, yeah. He sure does but he can't do anything about it because I need to support my family back in Slovakia and this is the best way to do that.
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Is it possible to chane money at Artemis? I mean "break" 50-Euros in to 10-Euros or do I have to have 50- and 10-Euro bills with me?
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[QUOTE=Jackyo]Her answer was: oh, yeah. He sure does but he can't do anything about it because I need to support my family back in Slovakia and this is the best way to do that.[/QUOTE]In some way it could be a turn on, in another a turn off. In your example it sounds like the first one. I hope you gave her all you had when she ended the call!
My first P4P girl was a rip off on the Oranienburger Strasse. A CBJ in the park for 50E. Half way in the BJ (what actually were more a HJ then BJ. She had all her hair in the way so I could not see what she was doing. Her phone rings and she starts talking to someone when she is stroking my dick. Maybe this were just a security thing? Anyway, I was so nervous because its was the first time I have payed for sex and I come a minute later. I think the phonecall helped me a little =)
Next day I visited Artemis. Im glad I did xD
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[QUOTE=Rekarn]Ok gentlemen, I promised a report and here it is!
She was Ella, a 27-year old blonde from St. Petersburg, Russia. And she had one of the best asses I saw in the club and certainly one of the best asses I ever saw. [/QUOTE]I am so glad to know that Ella is still there. Was she wearing stockings?
I saw her on my trip to Berlin in November but could not find her when I was there in December (maybe she had gone home early for Christmas)
She was indeed a very very sexy lady with quite a baby face and certainly gave a top rate GFE
I am back again in February and will certainly look for her again.
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[QUOTE=Concan]Is it possible to chane money at Artemis? I mean "break" 50-Euros in to 10-Euros or do I have to have 50- and 10-Euro bills with me?[/QUOTE]
Probably possible but better to bring a selection of 50's 10' & 20's.
Personally I always try to arrange exact change when going out mongering. Just makes things easier and more fluid which I always like.
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Stockings at FKK?
[QUOTE=A Fox]Was she wearing stockings?[/QUOTE]Is stockings more usual at Bordellos than FKK's, because of the sauna/pool thing maybe?
I'm just so into the stockings and high heel thing.
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Stockings
At a medium/large club like Artemis there are always a few who will wear stockings or fishnets. Of course if you go on dessous day, which is Weds at Artemis, your chances increase accordingly.
Being one who likes to feel the soft delicate weight of smooth, perfect, diamond shaped calves, I admit to spending most of my time trying to get the damned things off. ;-)
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Thanks for all the answers so far.
Do all the girls wear high heels?
Are the girls completely naked?
Is the temperature high (like 25 celsius) in the rooms, kinos, bar etc. concidering the girls walking around naked?
Do the girls wear make up, perfume, jewellery etc.?
Is touching the girls pussy with your hands something you have to pay extra for?
Are'nt you guys at least a little bit worried about catching any sexual disease, HIV etc. concidering the girls giving BBBJ to maybe hundreds of guys every week?
Regards
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[QUOTE=Concan]Thanks for all the answers so far.
Do all the girls wear high heels?[/QUOTE]Most but not all
[QUOTE]Are the girls completely naked?[/QUOTE]As above, most but not all. I've seen occasionally one or two wearing panties. Don't know why, I thought it was forbidden.
[QUOTE]Is the temperature high (like 25 celsius) in the rooms, kinos, bar etc. concidering the girls walking around naked?[/QUOTE]Don't know exactly what you mean but the inside temperature is always pretty hot (beware of staff coming from outside and bringing with them the occasional cold external air though); in fact, late in the evening the bar is crowded enough to feel like you are in a mediterranean summer even if is snowing outside...
[QUOTE]Do the girls wear make up, perfume, jewellery etc.?[/QUOTE]If there was a girl without at least one of those things then I didn't see her, so the answer would be yes.
[QUOTE]Is touching the girls pussy with your hands something you have to pay extra for?[/QUOTE]I guess not, or at least I've always done it and no girl as ever asked me for extra. Given that she offers DATY of course.
[QUOTE]Are'nt you guys at least a little bit worried about catching any sexual disease, HIV etc. concidering the girls giving BBBJ to maybe hundreds of guys every week?[/QUOTE]A bit, but life is about taking risks. And anyway chances of contracting sexual disease by receiving oral sex are pretty low
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[QUOTE=Concan]Are'nt you guys at least a little bit worried about catching any sexual disease, HIV etc. concidering the girls giving BBBJ to maybe hundreds of guys every week?
Regards[/QUOTE]I suggest this. If you want to go with 3 girls (or 4! ), have only one with BBBJ so you reduce a lot the risk of infection. About type of infection typicaly in a FKK you can take easly Gonorrhea but the risk to take HIV is very low but exist. And you must consider that in a busy day with a lot of guy the risk increase a lot! Have care of your health and life and consider to always have safe sex.
Fichetta
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Toscana
[QUOTE=Toscana]At a medium/large club like Artemis there are always a few who will wear stockings or fishnets. Of course if you go on dessous day, which is Weds at Artemis, your chances increase accordingly.
Being one who likes to feel the soft delicate weight of smooth, perfect, diamond shaped calves, I admit to spending most of my time trying to get the damned things off. ;-)[/QUOTE]I have almost convinced a friend to go to Berlin next month. It would really be fun if I succeed. If we go for some days, I'll hope we can be in Berlin on a Wednesday!
Being one who likes to have it in the "sluty" way with fishnet/stockings and high heels on when fucking, I admit to spending most of my time trying to get the damned things on! ;-)
But im not Ortodox, sometimes I like my wimmin as you explained it =P
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[QUOTE=Concan]
Is touching the girls pussy with your hands something you have to pay extra for?
Are'nt you guys at least a little bit worried about catching any sexual disease, HIV etc. concidering the girls giving BBBJ to maybe hundreds of guys every week?
Regards[/QUOTE]
Touching a girls pussy is included in the base price if the girl allows it. Not all do, but I have not come across many who object. Putting your fingers inside the pussy is another matter. I find that quite a number of girls object to this. One reason is health related. If a girl has a number of guys fingering her pussy every night she will often come down with a higher than normal number of bladder infections, simple bacterial infections that are unpleasant and will affect her ability to work.
And some don't like it because many guys are kind of rough when fingering and it is not much fun (I hear) to have a guy rooting around in there like he is looking for a dropped euro.
So if you do have the luck to find a girl who enjoys this form of sex play be gentle.
I also find that if you really, really like to finger a girl that it helps to have available a clean latex glove. This cuts the risk of infection considerably.
As for the risk of STD-I guess we all have our own level of acceptable risk. Some guys swear by bare backing asian hookers (see Asia Rain's posts in the Indonesia & Thai threads) and some want cbj. Ultimately it is up to you and the girl involved, both consenting adults (hopefully) and more or less aware of the risks involved.
I guess that Gonorrhea is a risk but then it's presence is pretty obvious and I doubt that any girl who did contract it would be around spreading it for long. She would have to stop work and take care of it. Maybe you could go with a girl who had just sucked off a guy with gonorrhea and contract it that way but as I said, we all have our levels of risk we will accept.
Genital Warts (HPV) are a much more likely condition that you could catch in a place like Artemis. But if you have been involved in any sort of non-monogamous sex you will likely (very, very likely) have come into contact with HPV whether or not you have any warts. It will be dormant in your body. And condoms are not of any particular use with HPV as it is spread through skin to skin contact so unless you wrap your self in saran wrap...
My personal philosophy when engaging in any sort of P4P is just not to think about it too too much. I don't mean to be stupid about it and to ignore the risks but, face it, you are visiting a prostitute. She has sex with a number of men for money. These are the facts. If you can not handle this find yourself a nice monogamous GF and settle down, all the while hoping that she isn't out there fucking some guy behind your back and because of guilt and fear not saying anything. Which is really more risky. I am not so sure myself.
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Thanks again,
Is there pockets in the bath robe, so I can bring my own condoms, a book etc?
What about the light in the rooms, at the bar, wellness area etc, is it enough light to have a good look at the girls?
What about alcohol, can i get a shot of vodka, a beer etc. in the bar and how do I purchase that and how much does it cost?
Regards
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[QUOTE=Concan]Thanks again,
Is there pockets in the bath robe, so I can bring my own condoms, a book etc?
What about the light in the rooms, at the bar, wellness area etc, is it enough light to have a good look at the girls?
What about alcohol, can i get a shot of vodka, a beer etc. in the bar and how do I purchase that and how much does it cost?
Regards[/QUOTE]
Yes to the pockets.
Yes to the light in the bar and wellness area.
Yes to the alcohol. There's a menu at the bar with prices.
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ISG meating in FKK Artemis on Saturday 17th
Hey guys,
Where are you? I was in the sauna area at 10 pm but there are a lot of guy so I think it was impossibile to recognize you!
About the evening: to to to to many guys and not so much girls and not so much pretty girls. I think Saturday is not a good day for Artemis. I think Sunday is more more better.
About mine girls:
- Daniell (? ) from Austria
23yo, blonde, slim body but not so good. She wear white stockings. Not a shark but something very near. She is cute and sweety but I will not remember this girls for performance (very bad BJ! ).
- Sara from Germany
30 yo, blonde, not slim but good body. She wear glasses. Very very good girls. She make you relax a lot. I think of of more relaxed girl in Artemis. She often stay in the sauna area at the bar. I sugest this girl when you are tired with not so much energy (try to go with her after 3 or 4 other girls! )
- Zoe from Czech Republic (I love gilrs from Czech! )
23 yo, dark hair, slim and very good body. Good session and the girl work very good. My best session of the day. Very good BBJ and she is relaxed and don't hurry you to finish! I will come back to her next time!
- Isabella from Moldavia
23 yo, dark hair, very slim body and very small ass. Stay away from this girl. I think she is the most shark of Artemis. I think every guy stay away from her. I want to taste if my anti-shark radar still work fine!
In conclusion: Artemis is the best FKK of Germany I think but for this reason too many guy and for this reason too many shark expecialy on weekend.
I don't know if the much higher price of entrance and for a session is value for money. But for sure Artemis is best place to spend an entire day because It is big and with a lot of facilities. Food is good but not so much than in Frankfurt FKK.
To Pronto91, Dick Travel and Angus, I hope to meat you another time.
I plan to go to World or Oase in March. I don't know exactly when!
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[QUOTE=Fichetta]Hey guys,
Where are you? I was in the sauna area at 10 pm but there are a lot of guy so I think it was impossibile to recognize you!
To Pronto91, Dick Travel and Angus, I hope to meat you another time.
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Hi,
Thanks for the report.
Unfortunately I came down with a bit o' the flu on Friday and spent the weekend at home in bed.
Let me know if you are going to be here again sometime.
AM
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Hi,
Thanks for the report.
Unfortunately I came down with a bit o' the flu on Friday and spent the weekend at home in bed.
Let me know if you are going to be here again sometime.
AM[/QUOTE]I'm sorry for your health Angus. You will have a lot of possibility to go to Artemis. You live in Berlin right?
I have a question to all ISG user that was in Artemis last Saturday night. Is very important:
There was a litle girl that for me was the best of all girl but she was busy for all the night with one guy that I think he spend so much money to have this girl like personal girl. Anyone know the name of this girl? She was very very cute and I can't forget his perfect body. Next time in Artemis I can't miss to try this girl. Anyone know how she work? Anyone know if I can find this girl easly at Artemis?
Thanks to all!
Fichetta
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Artemis Report
I spent a few hours at the Artemis a couple of days ago. As for finding it, it is very simple once you know where it is. If you don't, it's not as clear. Previous posts have said that you go through a tunnel. I expected a tunnel such as one underground, it's not. It's a covered walkway. There's only one way out of the station. Take that. Just keep making lefts whenever you can and you'll be at Artemis. It's on the other side of the tracks from the station and you can't see it unless you know which building it is.
Entrance is 80 as reported and you can come and go as you like. I arrived at 4pm and there were a decent number of girls and guys, but I would not show up until 8 for the full effect. Artemis has quite the selection. You want a thin girl, you'll find it. You want a fat girl with a face only her mother could love, you'll find it. There are a few model types but not as high a percentage as Palace where it's about half. Most of the girls are the girl next door types, 6-7 in my book. It's been described as a room full of top shelf talent. In my opinion it's a room full of middle shelf talent. There are two lounge areas. The floor you walk in on is the main one. This is the smoking lounge and is where most of the girls are. The wellness floor is one down. It also has a bar and lounge area but only a few girls walk through it occasionally. Mostly they hang out upstairs. The bottom area is only good for getting out of the action and watching naked guys frolic in the pool. Not good if you are a non smoker.
I planned to be strong and wait for the perfect girl. I turned a few away. Then the first girl that came up to me came up again and she promised to kiss me all over. I got weak and went for it. Her name is Dominica and she's a Polish blonde 23 year old about a 7 in my book. Good to her word she kissed me all over including DFK. The BBBJ was excellent and I could have blown it within the first minute but held off. Finished in doggie. Cost was 60.
My plan was to hang around for a while and then leave and come back. It didn't work out. I feel asleep in the non smoking lounge and then had dinner. On the way to dinner I saw the perfect girl for me. Not a 10, but well in the upper 9's. She had a towel on which generally means she's not available. I just locked eyes and said hello. A couple of guys tried grabbing her, literally, as she walked across the floor but she just shook them off. I waited 2 hours before she reappeared. That was a long session she had. I grabbed her immediately. I forget her name but she is a Romanian 21 year old brunette. Beautiful face, great body with a nice tan. I'm normally one shot per night and sadly this was the case. No kissing but her oral technique was up to the job. I could have finished within the first couple of minutes but I held off since I didn't want to end so early. As a gun misfires though, I wasn't able to finish in the end but it was fun trying. She kept apologizing but I just told her it was my problem not hers. Another 60.
Artemis is nice, but I prefer Palace. In terms of facilities, Palace wins hands down. Yes, Artemis has more things like the gym but the quality of everything is better at Palace. The robes are more plush, the furniture and fittings are in better shape. Artemis feels like it was good about 5-10 years ago but needs a remodel. There's chip paint etc about. The food is better at Palace, more quality and variety. Also, you can get food all the time at Palace. It's not that way at Artemis. The main room in Palace is a nicer place to wait then at Artemis. Artemis has more girls and variety, but the number of girls I find doable are about the same between Artemis and Palace since a higher percentage of girls at Palace are doable. In short, Palace feels more like a high end gentlemen's club and Artemis more like a spa or sauna with a brothel on top. One last thing, the rooms at Artemis are dark. I pick beautiful looking women and I want to see them during the session. With the lights all the way up in the room, it's still dark at Artemis. You can turn up the lights at Palace so that it's like normal room lighting.
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re ISG meet up
Hi both,
I didnt get to access my email/pm's until Sunday but Angus had PM'd to pre warn me he didnt feel too good.
Fichetta, I'd tried PM'ing you my description but I think you need to increase your membership level to be PM'able? - it wouldnt let me. So although I'd got a description of Angus I didnt have one of you !
I did keep an eye out around the sauna and bar from 10pm for about half hour looking for anyone of Angus's description though. I must admit to getting distracted by the lovely Giselle at the bar though, but thought my chatting with her might get my English accent noticed by an ISGers.
I didnt catch up with Pronto91 either.
Another time eh? I expect I'll be back as much fun was had, report to follow.
We need ISG wristbands or something eh?
DT
[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Hi,
Thanks for the report.
Unfortunately I came down with a bit o' the flu on Friday and spent the weekend at home in bed.
Let me know if you are going to be here again sometime.
AM[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Fichetta]
Originally Posted by Fichetta
Hey guys,
Where are you? I was in the sauna area at 10 pm but there are a lot of guy so I think it was impossibile to recognize you!
To Pronto91, Dick Travel and Angus, I hope to meat you another time.
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Just got back too
[QUOTE=JustGotBack]I spent a few hours at the Artemis a couple of days ago. As for finding it, it is very simple once you know where it is. If you don't, it's not as clear. Previous posts have said that you go through a tunnel. I expected a tunnel such as one underground, it's not. It's a covered walkway. There's only one way out of the station. Take that. Just keep making lefts whenever you can and you'll be at Artemis. [/QUOTE]
I have taken a series of photos from the S bahn platform to Artemis door, I shall post them soon, but yes head out to station car park, left, over railway, left. Easy.
[QUOTE=JustGotBack]Her name is Dominica and she's a Polish blonde 23 year old about a 7 in my book. Good to her word she kissed me all over including DFK. The BBBJ was excellent and I could have blown it within the first minute but held off. Finished in doggie. Cost was 60.[/QUOTE]
:-) mmmmmmmmmm, yes. I know. My first girl of the night too and a great choice.
[QUOTE=JustGotBack]Artemis is nice, but I prefer Palace. In terms of facilities, Palace wins hands down. Yes, Artemis has more things like the gym but the quality of everything is better at Palace. The robes are more plush, the furniture and fittings are in better shape. [/QUOTE]
I felt the same, Artemis has the additional beneifits of a nice pool and better wellness area by far compared to Palace. It has the space Palace does'nt have. I also welcome the downstairs bar, which like World provides a change of pace and some respite from the hunters ! But yes, somehow nothing is quite as "plush" feeling. I found the bright lighting on the spiral stairwell and the small locker area etc detracted from the atmosphere in the bar, which is a shame as of course everyone passes through here on the way to play etc.
I'm compiling my adventures and thought and will post soon.
DT
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FKK finish rule is irritating.
One thing about FKKs I find irritating is the one shot and you're done rule. Many other places in the world such as termas are by the clock and not by the shot. So if you finish in 5 mins and you paid for 30 minutes, you can either keep going or get a massage or something. I wish FKKs were the same. I have literally seen some guys go in a room with a girl, come back out in a couple of minutes and then walk over to the safety deposits to pay them. In Argentina, there are girls that won't leave until you kick them out. You pay for short time which is an hour. Sometimes they won't leave, particularly if it's late and they won't get another session for night. After a few hours, I just kick them out.
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It depends on the girl
[QUOTE=JustGotBack]One thing about FKKs I find irritating is the one shot and you're done rule. Many other places in the world such as termas are by the clock and not by the shot. So if you finish in 5 mins and you paid for 30 minutes, you can either keep going or get a massage or something. I wish FKKs were the same. I have literally seen some guys go in a room with a girl, come back out in a couple of minutes and then walk over to the safety deposits to pay them. In Argentina, there are girls that won't leave until you kick them out. You pay for short time which is an hour. Sometimes they won't leave, particularly if it's late and they won't get another session for night. After a few hours, I just kick them out.[/QUOTE]
The "one shot and you're out" rule is more often followed at transactional clubs. I don't have this problem at clubs I've described as relationship-oriented.
A lot depends on your rapport with the chick. If you can turn on the charm and she really enjoys being with you, she will ignore the clock and you can just hang out.
A lot also depends on communication skills. I have almost no ability to entertain a non-German speaking chick (or a chick with weak German language skills) hence my tendency to screen for communication skills before I commit. Those Romanian or Bulgarian women who are just off the bus don't cut it. My Romanian or Bulgarian is just about nil.
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[quote=justgotback]one thing about fkks i find irritating is the one shot and you're done rule.[/quote]i had a conversation regarding this last year with couple of girls at artemis.
i had done my first quickie with a bulgarian blonde, an adorable creature; a bit rough with her hands but otherwise ok. i had spent about an hour recovering; it was sunday night and around midnight this skinny [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]-type turkish girl comes in and starts to chat with a group of girls by the tables in front of the main bar. she seemed very confident, not approaching or being approached by any of the men in the bar.
it took notice of her and went downstairs, but drifted back up again and sat on the couch by the pole-dancing stage. one of the girls from the group (a slightly plump colombian girl, not bad looking, but not really my type) came to sit on the armrest of the couch. she said that she had taken notice of me eying her friend and suggested a threesome. i wanted to decline and said that i was too tired, it was too soon, but i guess my eyes were telling a different story.
she started describing what we would do: "imagine, one of us sucking your balls and the other your dick - two sets of lips all over you..." it took me about 30 seconds to make the decision. so she winked the turkish girl over and said that we were going to do a threesome. the girl wanted to finish her smoke. after that they asked if i wanted to go to a room or to the kino. i thought that i could maybe buy me some time by going to the kino and then asking to continue in the room, but what did i know - a newbie in an fkk...
we went to the adjacent kino - to one of the big divans in the back - and the girls draw the curtains half-way shut. and boy, was i in for a ride!
the girls had obviously done this together before: the condom was on in a flash and the girls started their oral work in perfect tandem. luckily i had already come twice that day - with the bulgarian and earlier at kd - otherwise i would have lost it in about 2 minutes.
daty was offered and i made a cautious venture towards the main attraction, but did not dare to go all the way. anyway, after about 10 minutes of oral bliss the turkish girl decided to speed things up and mounted me in reverse cowgirl. the view of her tight ass and slender legs made me loose it and the girls slowed down.
they kept looking at the clock, but neither said anything. they offered me a massage, which i accepted. i asked them if i would be entitled to come a second time and a quite animated german-language discussion erupted between the girls. the turkish girl said that since i was paying for both of them i might be entitled to a second round, but the colombian girl protested and said that had i paid for an hour, a second round would have been appropriate, but not with "just a 30-minute session".
i was too much in a bliss to argue with them, so i enjoyed the massage and the conversation with the girls and soon suggested that i pay them. the whole episode lasted maybe 20 minutes, but it was in many ways one of the best threesomes i have ever had.
if my memory serves me right, the turkish girl's name was samira. since i am coming to berlin next month, i wonder if any of you guys have seen her around?
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[QUOTE=JustGotBack]One thing about FKKs I find irritating is the one shot and you're done rule. Many other places in the world such as termas are by the clock and not by the shot. So if you finish in 5 mins and you paid for 30 minutes, you can either keep going or get a massage or something. I wish FKKs were the same. I have literally seen some guys go in a room with a girl, come back out in a couple of minutes and then walk over to the safety deposits to pay them. In Argentina, there are girls that won't leave until you kick them out. You pay for short time which is an hour. Sometimes they won't leave, particularly if it's late and they won't get another session for night. After a few hours, I just kick them out.[/QUOTE]
I can not say for all FKKs but I do not think that the one shot and you are done phenomenon is a rule at Artemis. Artemis is a busy club that relies a lot upon the tourist trade. I am sure that the girls know this and many are there primarily to make money and that means getting in and out as quickly as possible. So if you don't watch it you will end up with a quick, short session.
The way to a full time session is to spend a bit more time looking for the girls who are there not just to ring up the cash but to also have fun and spend time with guys that they might also enjoy being with. And this can certainly be difficult when the club is in full swing on a Friday or Saturday evening.
I have had a number of the quickie sessions with girls who seemed to want to get up and go asap. Usually it was because I chose badly for what ever reason.
I have also had sessions that went over time at no extra charge. These were usually hour sessions with girls I had had a shorter session wit and found her to be willing to take some time and enjoy the session. It helps if you are able to return to the club a few times to find the girl (girls) who you click with and build a bit of rapport.
I would not say that FKKs are all about quickie sex but you do have to put in a bit of effort and time to get the most of your FKK time & euros.
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[quote=angus magee]i can not say for all fkks but i do not think that the one shot and you are done phenomenon is a rule at artemis. [/quote]
don't kid yourself, that's the basic rule at pretty much any club, especially one that's main client is a tourist. the main problem is guys hit the room at full speed, juice's flowing. if you can slow it down and control the tempo you'll have no problem running the clock right to the 29 minute mark. the key is foreplay, don't let the girl start the 90 mile per hour (sorry, 120 kilometer per hour) bbbj. and even if she does, you still have the chance to recover and head south (by yourself).
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Directions to FKK Artemis
Directions to FKK Artemis
Hi all, I visited Artemis for the first time last week. (Report to follow).
Finding Artemis is easy and it's been discussed on the forum before. However, I decided to take some photos of the walking route and make a map for future ISG visitors to FKK Artemis.
Please see the attached word document for a map of walking route from Westkreuz S Bahn station complete with photos.
Best wishes all.
DT
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Bathrobe or towel?
Do you guys wear a towel or a bathrobe when being at Artemis?
I read somewhere else in this forum that if you wear a towel the girls will approach you by stroking ther bodies and breasts against your chest, is that true? Must be a great feeling.
Is there fresh and clean bathrobes and towels to get during the evening or do I have to wear the same all evening?
Can I have both a towel and a robe?
Regards
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DT does 2 days in Artemis
Are you sitting comfortably, then I'll begin....
Once upon a time in a land devoid of FKKs a man sat staring out of a window at a grey, wet, windy, cold dismal January day, BBC News 24 was bleating out credit crunch gloom n doom, Christmas was a memory and the next bank holiday was a long way off. (I know, I know, the bit about no FKK's was bad enough and I may be guilty of using a trowel to lay it on here)
"Bing"
...it hit him (it's ok it didnt hurt) , bank holiday, naaaahh, BONK holiday, that's what he needed !
And so it came to pass that some bargain flight surfing later his future was set, he was going to the land of plenty, Deutschland !
I soon arrived at Berlin Schonefeld and left the terminal building turning left and following signs for the S Bahn station, which is about a 5 minute brisk stroll along a covered walkway. Trains are frequent (see the DB website). I purchased a single trip ABC zone ticket (I believe Schonefeld used to be covered by AB, but not now) which cost me just a few euros.
Your choices are the S9 or the S45, the S45 joins the S Bahn "ring" heading anticlockwise. The S9 heads through the city center and passes through Zoologischer Garten where I was heading. Either lines eventually go through Westkreuz, which is the station for Artemis. I suspect the S45 might be quicker if you are travelling direct from Schonefeld to Artemis.
The journey was maybe 45 minutes, I wasn't really paying attention to my watch as I was tuned in to an amusing conversation a very attractive
young Welsh brunette was having with her friend, via mobile phone. She'd come to meet her, alas at the wrong airport, her friend was at Tegel!
Artemis day 1
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Sat 16th Jan from around 1930 to 0330 hrs
Yes, 0330hrs. (Angus is correct, you can get "stuck" in Artemis spinning around the the heady sexual atmosphere surrounded by sexy girls and
never quite managing to reach escape velocity).
Finding Artemis is easy, get yourself to Westkreuz S Bahn station and it's a 5 minute walk. Others have posted directions, but I have recently
posted a word doc with map and pics too.
So, I arrived, my extremities cold from the weather but with a hornyness burning inside. All day passing eye candy had been catching my attention as my little mind knew what this evening would bring.
Entering the foyer I was greated nicely and paid my 80 euros. I was given the standard first time visitor briefing, to which I explained no problem, I had been to other clubs already. Good English was spoken. I was given a robe to wear (not as good as Palace's but ok) and a key for the valuables locker and changing room locker.
From the foyer you go up a short flight of stairs to the level of the changing room and valuable lockers. There is little to comment on the changing room, clean, warm, good sized lockers (I got a small backpack in easily along with clothes on last day I visited). The showers are hot enough, but as normal don't run long enough !
Leaving the changing room one enters a landing on the large spiral staircase. There are 3 main levels to Artemis.
Middle level -
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Changing Rooms, valuables lockers area and foyer, main lounge, kino, dining room.
I entered the main lounge and was pleased to find it had a similar ambience to Palace. That dark, warm, cosy, plush decor and feel. Although I would say it doesnt quite hit the Palace quality feel (yes, I'm Palace stroking this time). There is a walkaround bar to the right and a step up raised seating area with sofas and tables to the left. Moving further into the room beyone the bar is a podium and pole for dancers, more lounging areas and sofas. All strewn with soft cushions and lit in soft lighting.
At the far end of the room.........Oh, I nearly forgot, there were lots of sexy young naked women around too, Artemis obviously hired an internal designer who appreciates the crucial importance of such finishing touches.
....At the far end of the room one finds the kino on the left and door to the dining room on the right facing you.
The kino appeared to be nice, a series of large flat areas to play on, the rear ones i think partially curtained. A good large screen. I didn't actually spend any time in here so cannot comment more.
The dining room was fine too, plenty of tables and seating, good food too. I eat there two evenings running and I'm sure hot food remained until approaching midnight maybe. There was a choice of a couple of hot dishes, plus veg, rice, salad, coffee etc. I would say that the food equals FKK World's, but unless I was mistaken lacked the Gateaux/desert of Palace. Clean and tidy.
Downstairs level -
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Reaching the bottom of the spiral stairs..
If you turn left:
Pool, Saunas/Steam room, bar/lounge chill out area.
The pool was nice and warm, good quality saunas, hamam, bio, choice of temperatures etc. There are also loungers around the pool.
If you turn right:
Access to another Kino and a gym, plus some play rooms.
The kino is smaller than upstairs. More soft bench seating than flat beds in this one. There are a few handy room adjacent to retire too though once warmed up.
The gym is well equipped for both cardio vascular and weight training. There is also a sunbed. Mind you, I think you must really accept that if you are not buff, toned, tanned and impressive for the girls when you arrive, then hitting the gym/sunbed is really a case of too little too late my friends ;-#) ! You'll have to rely on the ISG charm offensive techniques, or failing that money always works ;-)
If you go straight ahead:
Then you're obviously watching that cute ass passing by and not looking where you're going. You won't get further than the wall in front of you but the people lounging under the stairs will be entertained.
Which reminds me, if you lounge on the soft seating under the spiral stairs, lay back, relax and OPEN your eyes, there are very nice views of girls on the
landing above ;-)
Upstairs Level -
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There are some sofas on the landing where couples can wait when rooms are busy.
The rooms themselves you ask? Mmmm, I seem to recall they were big, clean, had mirrors in them. Other than that it's hazy, the only strong mental images I can recall from upstairs involve pretty faces or anatomy :-) Apologies for being distracted.
Stop waffling about the venue and tell us about the gig I hear you all crying out, sat no doubt in your equally FKK devoid nations.
Ok then....
The juicy details
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(NB descriptions may be a little out or miss details, I'm referring to hastily tapped out mobile phone notes made on the s bahn !)
Sitting on a sofa at the far end of the raised seating area, taking in the views and trying to remember to concentrate on returnees expressions, clock times, attitudes etc I was suddenly wrestled from my game by a gorgeous Polish girl who said hi through the hand rail. A minute later I'd made her laugh and we were smiling, she hadnt mentioned "room" yet and she was cute, so I invited her around to sit with me. A minute later I succumbed...
#1
Dominica
Polish
Petite
Platinum Blonde
early 20s
30 mins E60
A very nice opening session, only light DFK, good BBBJ, fun in several positions with full time finish over breasts. Some cuddles and chat.
Time was marching on and after a shower, drink, relax, I headed to the downstairs bar where I'd hoped to meet some other ISGers, but alas various reasons meant it wasn't to be.
However, while at the bar I got chatting to Giselle, a pretty, petite, German mousey blonde. I commented "Giselle" sounds French and she said it was her stage name. Moments later she gave me a stage name of "David", which I can't say strikes me as sexy but she liked it. Maybe David Hasselhoff makes it sexy, but I must admit to no resemblance !
Anyway, we set off running in slow motion across the poolside in our tight red baywatch lifeguard outfits.......no, not really, we chatted about ambitions and business plans (hers) and music for a while, then we kissed a while and headed upstairs. (how odd, if I chat about business in bars at home it never ends this way)
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Giselle
German
Petite
B cups
Mousey Blonde, shortish.
60 mins E120
One of those very nice sessions, no major sexual fireworks, but a great girl, nice massage, plenty of kissing, several positions. Great view in doggy as she smiled back in mirror. More cuddles and chat after.
Time was now into the small hours and it was thinning out upstairs a bit. I fancied a nice long BBBJ in the kino and wandered downstairs to see what was showing. I was greeted with a call from another petite blonde (what is going on, I'm normally into brunettes?) who was laying on one of the seats and I joined her.
#3
Name I forget- help please?
From Vienna, also works in Zurich regularly.
Platium blonde, shoulder blades length, straight.
Pale skinned.
Slim faced, interesting eyes.
30 mins E60
This lovely creature had great legs clad in white stockings, which I do like (used to like black stockings, there's a pattern here somewhere)!
I complimented her and she said she normally only wears red stockings. I asked "why?", "because they match my nail varnish silly!"
She said she always hangs around the kino, then asked had I got porn at home? I said "yes of course, all men have". She said "yes, but not many
wives know and you dont get a BBBJ watching it, thats why I hang around in here, it's every mans fantasy."
She gave me a very nice BBBJ with a lovely hot wet mouth (I do notice temperature difference!), I was loving it, feeling her hot lips, stroking her soft skin and smoothing that cute ass, watching the boss taking his secretary across the desk, the winter credit crunch blues were blown to smithereens.
After about 5 mins she asked should she climb on me but I asked her to keep going a while. She laughed and commented "see i told you!", and carried on a while. I then asked to go to a room, she bent over very provactively as she spread the sheet and we laughed as I pretended to take her hard and fast on the spot. A little more BBBJ then yes, she got it hard and fast in doggie, what a great little bod and good fun too.
I then showered and intended to go home happy, but as Angus said, it's hard to leave.
I found myself in the lounge again, sat on a stool at the back of the bar, drinking a well earnt coke and admiring the amazing acrobatic ability of a girl pole dancing when I crossed eyes with a cutey on the other side. I didnt want another session and automatically averted my eyes knowing that more than 2ms can ensure you get an approach. Mmm, "cutey" my heads thinking and, ooops, there I've gone and done it, she caught me copping another look and got my eye contact. I smiled and she came around.
This was Allina (sp?) a Ukrainian. We had a bit of banter and a laugh over my very limited Russian. I told her I thought she was lovely but I was tired. I said I'd be back tommorrow and would love to see her for a session. She sealed that likelihood by smiling sweetly, saying ok and kissing me goodnight. Many girls would have gone for a harder sell and blown it !
I headed for my hotel smiling.
Day 2:
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?1400 - 1900hrs
I was tired today. The club was quite quiet with few men when I arrived. I headed downstairs straight away, took a sauna, had a little swim and relaxed on the poolside. Several girls were hunting including two pairs offerring threesomes. I almost gave in to one of the pairs but the taller brunette, polish, had rather obvious bolt ons which I'm not keen on. Anyway, I fell asleep and awoke 30 minutes later feeling quite refreshed. Another swim and I was ready for action....
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name forgotten
bulgarian/romanian
died blonde, long hair.
20 mins? E60
We met by the pool and went to the kino. This was not a great session, it didnt click. She worked hard on BBBJ and then doggy, then more BBBJ but the chemistry didnt work. I called it quits telling her, no problem, tired today. (some really do seem frustrated if they dont get you off!)
I went and eat, had some coke (the drink!) and re-energised. Then happily I spotted Allina (from the end of Sat night) heading across. She realised it was me as she got close and I said I was pleased to see her.
#2
Alina
Ukranian
20 yrs old
pretty blonde, neck length?
B/C cups natural
We went upstairs and had a great session. Started with cuddles, a bit more chat, nice kissing (light) then onto a BBBJ. Interestingly she asked "would you like uncovered?" to which I said yes, then she said ok but you must not cum in my mouth. I said no problem. ( I had other plans!). It was a nice BBBJ then she climbed on top of me, oh my she seems to have mastered squeezing you with her muscles as she slowly rocks back and forth. Very nice! I said lets slow down and suggested an hour. I think she sensed I wasnt still fully functioning. I was more tired than I'd realised ! She gave me a great massage for 20 mins as we chatted and it slowly morphed into more cuddles and kissing and soon we were at it again.
I was in the zone now and ended with a fantastic release in doggy watching Alina's face in the mirror.
Alina is a great girl. Intelligent and a true professional in the sense that she doesn't hardsell, she doesn't upsell, she reads your expressions, senses your mood, chats if you like too, adapts her "programme" to suit you. She has cottoned on to good service bringing rewards. (I hope she retains this approach) She's also very sexy ! I will certainly session with her again when in Artemis.
I grabbed a quick shower and some more food and alas headed out of this newly conquered fantasy land, out into the snowy city and off to Schonefeld for my flight back to the land of "massage parlours" and "curb crawling". Ho hum !
It had been a great weekend, with no small thanks to all previous posters on this thread.
See you out there soon guys.
Take care, treat them well, report your adventures.
DT
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Artemis on Sat Jan. 31
At the moment I am planning a visit to Artemis this Saturday if anyone is going to be there.
Let me know.
AM
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]At the moment I am planning a visit to Artemis this Saturday if anyone is going to be there.
Let me know.
AM[/QUOTE]Angus,
I will be going on Monday (& Tuesday & Wednesday, assuming I like it there)
Any interest in hooking up on any of those days?
Best wishes
Charlie
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First time posting, long time lurker.
Dear all,
I have been reading this forum for a long time and have finally earned enough courage to post.
Thank you for providing such massive amount of info for the benefit of other punters throughout the world.
I guess that men are men without borders when it comes down to punting.
As far as my own expertise is concerned.
I do not have much to share with. I have visited both Oase and Artemis few times. That tells you that I am fairly a newbie.
Both had decent lineups with a slight edge on Oase. (I found the attitude of the girls better at Oase as well.)
I assume that I do not have to report on the trips to those places as many here have written about those clubs.
Ciao and happy punting!
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@Tinydick
[QUOTE=Tinydick] I have been reading this forum for a long time and have finally earned enough courage to post. Thank you for providing such massive amount of info for the benefit of other punters throughout the world.
I do not have much to share with. I have visited both Oase and Artemis few times. That tells you that I am fairly a newbie.Both had decent lineups with a slight edge on Oase. (I found the attitude of the girls better at Oase as well.)
I assume that I do not have to report on the trips to those places as many here have written about those clubs. [QUOTE]
Salute Tinydick
I think that there will be many on this forum that would be most interested in knowing what your thoughts of the clubs that you visited were and which girls you went with and what you did with them. The more explicit the detail the better.
Further you are actually actively encouraged to give back to this forum in return for the information that you have gathered from it.
I am glad that you have visited both Oase and Artemis a few times each. That amount of visits does not make you a newbie in my opinion. You have the learnt the way of the FKK and can impart your experience to the wider community for its benefit. The fact that you have even written shows that you have courage to put your thoughts in writing.
I too see the Oase girls being more open and having a better attitude. I would be interested in knowing which particular girls made your stays so welcoming and enjoyable. Please do share with us.
Thank you,
Ciao,
Basketcase
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Well, how can I refuse when one of the most esteemed member of the board wants my input! Haha!
For whatever its worth, here I go.
Artemis.
Visited 2 times in recent days.
The lineup was somewhat disappointing however improved as the night shift occurred.
I was there 2 days straight from around 6PM and left before midnight.
Was fortunate to observe the shift changes as girls were coming in.
Made few friends among the punters present as I was seeking some advises on selections.
Few punters strongly/highly recommended Selina (sp?) to me. She was a blonde with very skinny body. She appeared to be at least 5 foot 5 inches without the heels.
I never had a chance with her though once she approached me. Too bad I had just finished a session with Manuela and couldn’t manage another one so soon.
I asked her to come look for me again but she got grabbed by the others all the time.
Manuela
Romania
Straight Blonde- med. length
26 or 27 per her
Approx. 5’7” w/o the heels
Enhanced to perfect full C cups
Normal body- not skinny, not chubby, just average
BBBJ, Spat out discretely which was fine with me
Cow Girl, Doggy, Missionary, then Hand relief (my preferred finish)
60E.
Note- No up sell. Great smile. Good attitude. Not real GFE. Repeated session the next day.
B+ overall.
Zoe
Czech Rep.
Short dark hair
27 per her
Approx. 5’5” w/o the heels
Flat chested with minor sagging
Very skinny
BBBJ, light kisses (DFK is not my thing)
Cow Girl, Doggy, Misch and then chatted for 10 minutes
60E
Note- Her boobs can be a turn off for many guys. Excellent service minded. Nice facial features. No up selling. Did not want to finish with her for some reason. She kept on asking if it was her. I said that it was just me and that I had no more left.
B+ overall
Mara
Romania?
Blonde with round face and curly hair.
Age?
Approx. 5’4” w/o the heels
Nice natural small C breats
Normal body
Asked me if I wanted a CBJ or BBBJ . I said whatever. She opted for BBBJ.
Cow Girl squatting, Doggy and then Misch. ( Do you see the pattern here?) No finish.
She also was troubled why I did not want to finish. I explained my shortcomings but she was VERY disappointed..in herself.
70E- I felt like crap after not finishing with her. I wanted her to know that I appreciated her effort.
Note- Very bubbly but felt barrier with her short English. Will repeat and FINISH next time.
A- overall
Name ?
Origin? Some sort of a mix
Dark straight hair
19 per her
Approx. 5’7”
Natural D
Heavy set but very tight body with dark skin tone
She danced by the bar, jiggling her ass and boobs. I happened to be sitting right in front laughing too loud which got noticed by her and her buddy. She came over to where I was sitting and started jiggling her ass right in front of my nose.
LMAO and loved the energy.
She asked me to dance with her and I might have taken her offer if I was a bit more drunk. Thank goodness I did not make a fool out of myself!
When she asked me if I was interested to take her to a room, I told her that we will not have sex but she can dance for me. She was confused with her limited English
I took her to the Kino instead. We played with each other for few minutes with light kissings. As she was stroking little Me, to my amazement, it came alive.
I asked her for a BJ and she gave a nice BBBJ.
Little Me was happy but I simply did not want to have an intercourse at that point of time.
We spent 30 min inside Kino.
60E
B overall due to her thickness (body) but liked her fun oriented attitude.
There must have been few more in my 2 visits to Artemis but cannot remember.
P.S. Can someone plz tell me about Francesca? A little tiny girl with a small C breasts (perhaps silicone enhanced) and short black hair. I did not see her being neither friendly nor active in seeking clients. Something about her makes me want to stay away but she is very cute and looks yummy. Plz help?
P.S. No time for any editing. Plz excuse my poor writing skills.
Salute Tinydick
I think that there will be many on this forum that would be most interested in knowing what your thoughts of the clubs that you visited were and which girls you went with and what you did with them. The more explicit the detail the better.
Further you are actually actively encouraged to give back to this forum in return for the information that you have gathered from it.
I am glad that you have visited both Oase and Artemis a few times each. That amount of visits does not make you a newbie in my opinion. You have the learnt the way of the FKK and can impart your experience to the wider community for its benefit. The fact that you have even written shows that you have courage to put your thoughts in writing.
I too see the Oase girls being more open and having a better attitude. I would be interested in knowing which particular girls made your stays so welcoming and enjoyable. Please do share with us.
Thank you,
Ciao,
Basketcase[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Tinydick] Well, how can I refuse when one of the most esteemed member of the board wants my input! Haha! For whatever its worth, here I go.[/QUOTE]
Hi Tinydick
Thank you for sharing. This is very good of you to respond and do so. I have enjoyed reading you report.
[QUOTE=Tinydick] Few punters strongly/highly recommended Selina (sp?) to me. She was a blonde with very skinny body. She appeared to be at least 5 foot 5 inches without the heels. I never had a chance with her though once she approached me. Too bad I had just finished a session with Manuela and couldn’t manage another one so soon. I asked her to come look for me again but she got grabbed by the others all the time.[/QUOTE]
If your Celina/Selina is the same Selina that I know then she is a blond Lithuanian. She is recommended by many other ISG, ijsberen, lustscout, etc... When I was in Berlin for my visit she was on holiday. I was so sad to have missed Celina as so many rave reviews have been given of her.
Seek her out next time you are in Berlin as shall I.
[QUOTE=Tinydick]Zoe
Czech Rep.
Short dark hair
27 per her
Approx. 5’5” w/o the heels
Flat chested with minor sagging
Very skinny
BBBJ, light kisses (DFK is not my thing)
Cow Girl, Doggy, Misch and then chatted for 10 minutes
60E
Note- Her boobs can be a turn off for many guys. Excellent service minded. Nice facial features. No up selling. Did not want to finish with her for some reason. She kept on asking if it was her. I said that it was just me and that I had no more left.
B+ overall [/QUOTE]
Hmmm, I have also been with a Lucia (Czech Republic) who was average height, average body sized, A cup breasts - flat as a board. Lucia to me was attractive enough. Maybe not the same girl as your Zoe (Czech Republic) since she has dark hair - maybe the girls dye their hair. Anyway I did not have much fun with her - she was restrictive and my notes are to avoid but looks good even with the A cup breasts.
I recall that you have also been visiting Oase a few times as well. We would also be most appreciative if you could re-collect your experiences and especially the girls experienced at Oase. If you cannot recall then do not worry.
Thank you for reporting.
Ciao,
Basketcase
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[QUOTE=Tinydick]Well, how can I refuse when one of the most esteemed member of the board wants my input! Haha!
For whatever its worth, here I go.
Artemis.
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Thanks for the detailed report. "Writing skill", while good to have, does not trump simply getting something written and posting it. Contributing to the general data base is what it is all about.
I look forward to another report.
AM
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Oase report coming up soon
The names and all the details are blurry from my last visit there. But I maybe able to go again soon.
I'll make sure to give a report!
Ciao
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Artemis on Sat Jan. 31
I visited this past Saturday. Arrived around 17:30 and things seemed to be sort of quiet. By 18:30 there were lots of girls but the white (actually beige robes now I guess) robes were still scarce so the girls were restless. This was to continue the whole evening, at least until I left at 23:00.
I was there to see a specific lady, Giselle, who I have seen several times and who really does it for me at the moment. I did not have to wait long before seeing her enter the bar and then head downstairs.
I gave her a few minutes to settle and then followed. We chatted for quite some time in the bar, one of the nice aspects of being a regular and of seeing a girl who you actually like to talk to as well.
The room activities were up to my memories and we had a very nice hour together, non rushed, and I was at the end totally light headed and dare I say even more taken with her.
I can highly recommend this girl. She is German and works just a couple of days a week-as she tells me and I am fairly sure it is accurate. That being said, she does tend towards a softer gentler sexual experience so if you want a wilder fuck she might not fit the bill.
I probably should have left on this up note but I stayed and roamed a bit more. I finally ended up with a young skinny trampy looking Moldavian, Isabelle.
The sex was actually not bad as she was quite eager to please but her skills were not really top notch. I finally ended up agreeing to a "cim" finish. But when it came to the actual "cim" this young filly would not leave the gate...
My first shot caught her unaware and she claimed it hit her in the throat which had her choking and leaping for the waste basket to spit and cough, leaving little Angus at just that moment that needs a little bit more stimulation to really finish.
I guess I could have been more upset but the situation struck me more as quite funny. Especially as she then proceeded to try to charge me an extra 90 euros for "cim" with swallow!!! That is she wanted a total of 200 euros! for a bj that left me at the end handling Little A myself to finish the job!
I basically laughed all the way downstairs at this and handed the girl her 60 + 50 for cim. She then tried for an extra 20 "to get the taste out of her mouth and throat". Another laugh and a slap on her cute little bum as I sent her to the locker to gargle.
I guess you can't blame a girl for trying but I also would say to be a bit careful with this one. Once she gets a bit more experience under her belt she has Shark-ish potential I think.
Isabelle, 23? years, quite small and skinny, dark shoulder length hair, from Moldavia.
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[QUOTE=Charlie 123]Angus,
I will be going on Monday (& Tuesday & Wednesday, assuming I like it there)
Any interest in hooking up on any of those days?
Best wishes
Charlie[/QUOTE]I am in town until Tuesday. Came in yesterday and had happy 60 minutes at KD. I might be up to going to Artemis tonight (Monday), but not quite sure yet.
Kurre
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Isabelle or Isabella
Is the one I was told NOT to ever waste time with by many guys at the club.
Sorry you had the pleasure of experiencing her but I was glad that you were laughing it off.
Only if I had your sense of humor and coolness.
BTW, can someone plz report on Francesca? Please?
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There was a conference in town, so I figured Monday night at Artemis might have something more to offer than usual. I arrived around 11 pm And the place was hopping. I did not try to calculate the client-to-girl ratio, but there was plenty to choose from, with a lot of 8's and 9's around.
1st session: Luciana
I took my time settling in, but finally the chasers caught up. After declining a couple of girls, I went upstairs with Luciana from Brazil, a dark skinned beauty from Rio. I went straight for the one-hour session, which definetely was a mistake. She did speak enough English to go over the basics, but not nearly enough for fluent communication. Although she seemed sweet at the beginning, the upselling started in the room. She wasn't pushy, maybe more along the lines "I need money, please help me". Oh, well. Despite half-hearted massage and too fast and rough blow-job, her dark little body did it for me after maybe 50 minutes of hard work on both sides.
Damage: 120 euros down the drain.
2nd session: dreamteam Samira and Sabrina
After a shower, I went to eat. I talked with some other punters who seemed to be having good time. Got a recommendation on a Russian classy-looking blonde, but I didn't catch her alone that night.
As I left the dining room, I ran into Samira (see a report a few days back). Of course she didn't remember me, but she was eager to go. I was pretty tired from the first session, so I asked her to hook up with me later.
Maybe an hour later I saw Samira sitting in the bar next to the pole-dancing platform. I told her about the dream-come-true threesome we had last year and asked if she had a girlfriend around. She pointed to Sabrina, who was sitting next to us in the bar. Sabrina is from Hamburg and looks-wise these two girls could be twins: very slim, small breasts and a long dark hair. Sabrina spoke better english than Samira and she said I really should go with the lesbishow option, which would add 100 euros to the total. Girls finished their drinks and up we went.
In the room, Samira was all over me with DFK and sloppy kisses, but Sabrina got the show started. After watching about 2 minutes of the 69 action going on in the bed, I just had to join in. Everybody was licking everybody, bodies twisting on the bed. I asked for covered BJ and girls comlied.
Both girls did DFK, wet kisses, ball licking, licking under the balls, double BJ, 69 with me, riding, all the works. Pure heaven!
Best 220 euros ever spent.
Session 3: Simona
I had been talking and making eyes to this half-greek half-Polish little beauty all night. We finally went up at 3. 40 am Absolutely beautiful, very much GFE.comes highly recommended: 60 euros.
Ended the night in the biosauna with Simona.
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[QUOTE=Kurre]
1st session: Luciana
I took my time settling in, but finally the chasers caught up. After declining a couple of girls, I went upstairs with Luciana from Brazil, a dark skinned beauty from Rio. I went straight for the one-hour session, which definetely was a mistake. She did speak enough English to go over the basics, but not nearly enough for fluent communication. Although she seemed sweet at the beginning, the upselling started in the room. She wasn't pushy, maybe more along the lines "I need money, please help me". Oh, well. Despite half-hearted massage and too fast and rough blow-job, her dark little body did it for me after maybe 50 minutes of hard work on both sides.
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From your description and the service you received Luciana sounds like the first girl that with whom I had a session at Artemis this past October/November. She is a nice enough girl outside the room but as you experienced she tries hard to up sell but has that strong "I really don't want to be here" energy. Every time I go now she tries to get me into a room but I always defer politely.
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Charlie 123....
....visits Artemis for the first time and has a great time. It is posted in the Berlin thread so I am posting a link here.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=844709&postcount=1372[/url]
Thanks Charlie
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Yes, great report Charlie, thanks.
[QUOTE=Angus Magee]....visits Artemis for the first time and has a great time. It is posted in the Berlin thread so I am posting a link here.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=844709&postcount=1372[/url]
Thanks Charlie[/QUOTE]
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Anyone tried to just tell the girl to lay down, and start licking her body before the fucking (not the vagina, just general licking for 5-10mins)? I mean is it up to you what you want to do or they have a prorgam set up for you? It's kind of fetish for me, you think that would be a problem? Honestly, if I get to do that with all the girls, the actual fucking is 2nd priority for me. What do you guys think?
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Some girls have a program in mind..
[QUOTE=Tuxsmasher]Anyone tried to just tell the girl to lay down, and start licking her body before the fucking (not the vagina, just general licking for 5-10mins)? I mean is it up to you what you want to do or they have a prorgam set up for you? It's kind of fetish for me, you think that would be a problem? Honestly, if I get to do that with all the girls, the actual fucking is 2nd priority for me. What do you guys think?[/QUOTE]
.. and damn it you are going to upset that program.
It depends on your chemistry with the chick and how well you can communicate with her. If you find a chick who gets along with you anything goes. If not, then too bad.
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Licking/Kissing
[QUOTE=Tuxsmasher]Anyone tried to just tell the girl to lay down, and start licking her body before the fucking (not the vagina, just general licking for 5-10mins)? I mean is it up to you what you want to do or they have a prorgam set up for you? It's kind of fetish for me, you think that would be a problem? Honestly, if I get to do that with all the girls, the actual fucking is 2nd priority for me. What do you guys think?[/QUOTE]
I think yes, with most women it should be no problem. Ask gently.
Of course, it probably depends whether you mean a sort of kissing or licking with tons of saliva. With the latter some might object or not finding it nice or being put off. Kissing on the mouth is not tolerated by all the girls. Some allow it, some don't.
I've never encountered problems with kissing and nibbling (softly) the rest of the body, though.
Even with some of the transactional, programed sharks, in the bad, big touristy clubs. And even with little chemistry and no communication skills. ;–)
Globus
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[QUOTE=Tuxsmasher]Anyone tried to just tell the girl to lay down, and start licking her body before the fucking (not the vagina, just general licking for 5-10mins)? I mean is it up to you what you want to do or they have a prorgam set up for you? It's kind of fetish for me, you think that would be a problem? Honestly, if I get to do that with all the girls, the actual fucking is 2nd priority for me. What do you guys think?[/QUOTE]I agree with you a lot. I would also prefer that than just go for the sucking and fucking immideately but that seems to be the standard routine?
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Licking
[QUOTE=Tuxsmasher]Anyone tried to just tell the girl to lay down, and start licking her body before the fucking (not the vagina, just general licking for 5-10mins)? I mean is it up to you what you want to do or they have a prorgam set up for you? It's kind of fetish for me, you think that would be a problem? Honestly, if I get to do that with all the girls, the actual fucking is 2nd priority for me. What do you guys think?[/QUOTE]Did some bodylicking at Artemis last summer. I find it to be a very erotic experience. It was no problem getting it. I only asked if licking was possible. She first assumed that I would go down on her pussy. But instead I told her to turn around. She looked a bit surprised at first, before she understood what I meant. For the next 10 min I licked her back, shoulders and butt. Damn that was hot. Too bad I can’t remember the girls name, only that she was Turkish.
Galba
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[QUOTE=Galba]Did some bodylicking at Artemis last summer.[/QUOTE]Me too, but I stoped when the body tasted salt.
I guess she did not shower between me and the other costumer.
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[QUOTE=Kid Icarus]Me too, but I stoped when the body tasted salt.
I guess she did not shower between me and the other costumer.[/QUOTE]I once spurted the biggest load I've ever spurted all over the stomach and chest of a girl in KFS40. Pamela, I think she was called.
I know for a fact that they had no working shower that day (on account of having tried to shower together with the lady in question). She wiped off with a dry tissue, and that was that. She was sticky when she met her next client, that's for sure. And I could tell from the way her pussy smelled up close that other men beside myself had visited there earlier.
If you're a fan of licking other guys' sweat and semen, by all means lick a girl all over. If you're not a fan, then insist that you shower together first.
I'm with you on this one, Kid Icarus!
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[QUOTE=Kid Icarus]Me too, but I stoped when the body tasted salt.
I guess she did not shower between me and the other costumer.[/QUOTE]
Must have been me doing a COB.
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Charles, don't go ruin my fantasy now ;D
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Made two visits during the weekend and came away feeling a little disappointed.
First visit was on Friday night when there were more women than men(or so it seemed). That seemed to bring out the shark in some women. The ones I did wasn't bad but it makes it much harder to find what you want. I'm terrible with names but the first one was Denisa, 21 y.o. from Italy(in fact Romania) who was not so skilled when it came to bj but the rest was good enough. Face so-so but body good. I noticed a Polish girl(short blonde, around 23 y.o.) that I remember I have done before and wanted to try again. However, she and a colleague of hers was offering threesomes which makes my shark radar beep so I declined. Later I did another Romanian who said she was from Milan. She was ok but nothing to write home about. The rest of the evening was uneventful.
Came back on Sunday where there were much fewer women but the atmosphere much different(better). Saw the short Polish blonde again offering threesomes with another of her colleagues. I saw them and was very unimpressed because they very chatting loudly in Polish as they went to their locker room. It's anyones guess what they were talking about but needless to say it's quite likely they talked about the last one helping to pay their bills. The first and only girl of the day was 21-year-old Angel(?) of Hungary who is quite tall, slim with brown hair. Her performance was quite satisfactory and would repeat. I used the sauna and rested for a while. When it was time to find a new girl the only ones around where ones I didn't fancy. I saw a 9 that I wanted and from her interaction with customers seemed like a good bet but unfortunately she was busy and I had to leave.
Friday had a bad atmosphere (or it was me?) but found a few decent girls. Sunday was better but I had time constraints which prevented me from getting value for my entrace fee.
I understand why they had to raise the entrance fee because the laminated cards on the wall with the menu in English and German plus the paper notices in Italian in the locker room can't be cheap.
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Artemis 13-14 Feb
I visited Artemis for the first time this past weekend. It was my first FKK visit in almost two years, so anticipation was running high and I got a bit careless in the selection, but all in all I had an excellent time.
Friday the 13th, perhaps a daring day for a first visit. I arrived around 14.00, and there was already a fair number of ladies there, around 20 or so I think, though I'm notoriously bad at making such estimates. I checked out the premises, my progress impeded by ladies who wanted to show me a good time. I managed to fend off the approaches at first, but after a while they got to me.
Angel, from Hungary, got the first kill. In hindsight I cannot really say why I accepted, since she was not my type. Can't fault her for it really, though her quick application of a CBJ didn't help much. Still, newbie mistakes are there to learn from; too bad I did not do so immediately.
My next session was with a short, dark-haired girl (much more my type that) in a fetching corset who was not only pushy, but outright demanded that I take her to the kino. Nagging is easy to resist, but I'm wired to follow orders, especially ones given by nearly naked ladies. An okay session, no sparks, but not bad either.
After those two though, I told myself to be better at saying no. It's amazing how difficult that can be when you're not used to being almost constantly begged for sex. :)
While I was resting in the downstairs non-smoking bar (and what a relief such a thing is in an FKK where everyone smokes like a chimney), a cute short-haired blonde popped down on my lap and said in an accent that reminded me of Borat that she could make me feel nice. I said I was sure she could, but I was much too tired at the moment. She remained on my lap and chatted for a few minutes more, and then left and said to find her later. As she walked away, I got to admire her absolutely perfect butt. She had been gone less than a minute before I wondered if I should really have let her walk away. I went upstairs to find her, but she was nowhere. It was an anxious 40 minutes later that I caught up with her, and I'm very glad I did. She was Ella from Russia, of whom I have now read rave reviews. I have to say I fully understand and agree with the praise. It was a long session, but worth every last cent. If this frizzy-haired girl pops down in your lap, don't take the risk of letting her go!
That last session left me very tired, but it was only 7 o'clock, and the night therefore was still quite young. Some food, and about three hours of rest left me feeling frisky again. I looked for Ella, but she was nowhere to be found. I went to the downstairs Kino to check out the action there. It was empty, so I sat down for a second, which was all it took for someone to join me. Maribel from Spain. Cute and funny and a pretty good kisser too (paling in comparison to the abovementioned however), but she was much too shy to do anything in the kino. Ah, well. Off to a room, for a pleasant session, though nothing remarkable either.
An hour later I was thinking about retiring for the evening when Juliette Lewis came up to me. Well, I know it really wasn't her, but the resemblance was, in my eyes, uncanny. Straight out of the movie "Strange Days". She claimed she was from Moldavia, but I pretended not to hear that. Did I want to go into the kino with her? Of course. I've had a thing for Juliette Lewis since forever, how could I say no to her now?
She took me to the kino and cleaned me thoroughly (and not too softly) with a babywipe before starting up a competent enough blowjob. After about 5 minutes she started to tell me to "Yeah, baby come for me". She rode me for a while, we did some doggy, and then back to BJ. I don't know how it was in real life, but in my perfect fantasy I was having sex with Juliette Lewis in full view of whoever looked on. Nothing could spoil that moment for me!
I have no idea what her name was, she told me but I do not remember that part, probably blocked it out. She'll always be Juliette Lewis to me, and I would recommend her to anyone who would get a kick out of that fantasy, but I reckon others should take heed of the fact that she was quite keen on finishing as soon as possible.
When I left Artemis close to midnight, it was quite busy. I don't know how many people, 40 ladies perhaps? The male to female ratio seemed to be around 75%.
I returned just after opening the next day. Celebrating Valentine's Day in Artemis had been the plan all along, after all, and I had great hopes of meeting Ella again. I was not disappointed, she turned up around noon as I was lounging in a sunchair at the pool. She joined me for some making out on the chair, and then we were off to a room. Another wonderful session.
Artemis was quieter on the Saturday, but not much more so compared to the same time on the Friday. Having no points of reference I don't know if it was a smaller or bigger turnout than usual, but there was in my view a plentiful selection and many eyecandies there.
Some time later I met Gabritsa from Hungary, with a very pretty face and wonderful breasts. Half an hour in the kino, it was okay, but by this time I was getting both rather spent, and quite spoiled by Ella, so it was pretty much a waste of euros.
With about an hour and half before I had to leave for the airport I ran into Ella again (starting to see a pattern here) and yet another lovely hour was spent in her company, sending me off on my merry way with many kisses and a big grin on my lips.
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Blue eyed girls?
What eye colour do most of the girls at Artemis have?
I really have a problem to get erection with girls that dont have blue eyes.
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Picky, picky, picky
[QUOTE=Concan]What eye colour do most of the girls at Artemis have?
I really have a problem to get erection with girls that dont have blue eyes.[/QUOTE]
Might I suggest traveling into neighboring Poland where there are lots of blondes with blue eyes. :)
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[QUOTE=Concan]What eye colour do most of the girls at Artemis have?
I really have a problem to get erection with girls that dont have blue eyes.[/QUOTE]Given that Artemis has a predominance of Polish and Baltic girls, many of whom are blonde, I am sure you will find blues eyes enough to feel an occasional stir beneath the towel.
Now, I'm really looking forward to this report..... :-)
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[QUOTE=Jackyo]Might I suggest traveling into neighboring Poland where there are lots of blondes with blue eyes. :)[/QUOTE]Well I know I'm picky and in fact it's a bit of a problem for me, but wht can I say, petite blondes with big blue eyes and sun-tanned skin makes my libido spin.
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[QUOTE=Toscana]Given that Artemis has a predominance of Polish and Baltic girls, many of whom are blonde, I am sure you will find blues eyes enough to feel an occasional stir beneath the towel.
Now, I'm really looking forward to this report..... :-)[/QUOTE]Sounds great!
I wish all girls were blondes with big blue eyes, petite bodies, C or D breasts, thin waists, sun-tanned skin and pink lips.
And not one of them over 1,65 meters.
When making my first stumbling steps into Artemis, I will probably be shark-bait.
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[QUOTE=Concan]What eye colour do most of the girls at Artemis have?
I really have a problem to get erection with girls that dont have blue eyes.[/QUOTE]
I think just by the law of probability you will find such a girl at Artemis. But while the blond hair will be easy to identify, in the darkness of the bar area you might have trouble identifying the blue eyes. You may have to hang out in the area just above the stair well which is well lit and most of the girls pass through from time to time.
Myself I find the combination of blue eyes with black hair, quite rare but found with some Russian/Eastern European girls, to be unbeatable in terms of beauty. Luckily little Angus has not imprinted this look in order to function properly as I can only really remember two girls I have met with this look.
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]I think just by the law of probability you will find such a girl at Artemis. But while the blond hair will be easy to identify, in the darkness of the bar area you might have trouble identifying the blue eyes. You may have to hang out in the area just above the stair well which is well lit and most of the girls pass through from time to time.[/QUOTE]Thanks, thats where I'll be!
[/QUOTE]Myself I find the combination of blue eyes with black hair, quite rare but found with some Russian/Eastern European girls, to be unbeatable in terms of beauty.[/QUOTE]Black hair, blue eyes. That's second best, as long as they're sun-tanned. I do have a bit of a problem with pale skin as well.
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Return to the temple of Artemis, the Devil pays his dues.
after a rather frustrating day spent in london (love london but it's not my cup of tea for p4p) i arrived in berlin yesterday morning. i hadn't planned to visit artemis yesterday because i prefer to see the ladies in the buff. however my little soldier was aching for some action. so off i went to westkreuz and the short hike to the fkk. i got there around 3pm so not surpisingly it was rather sedate the first couple of hours i was there. just sort of hung out and soaked in the scene. i turned a handful of ladies away, but when a tall russian gal propositioned me by the stairs i just couldn't say no. i don't necessarily have a thing for tall chicks (she said that she's about 180cm) yet i do have a thing for russians. i had a good time with her in one of those semi-private rooms by the downstairs kino. she called herself "ah-ee-dah" or something like that.
afterwards i got cleaned up and hit the fitneßstudio for about 40 mins. later, i made my rounds back up in the main bar area. chatted up with a few of the gals and also got into a conversation with another american dude who seemed to really like getting massages from the guys by the pool. sorry, but this guy doesn't let other guys rub up on me. not my style. as i roamed some more a little blonde gal with a nice body blocked my path and we started talking. she turned out to be from spain and she called herself sara. i had to try her out and we had a great time in one of the private rooms. definitely will go with her again if i see her when i return. she also tried to talk me into doing a threesome with another gal. i must admit that i was tempted. btw. don't call her a latina, apparently she considers herself an "espanola".
i needed to take a break after my time with sara so i relaxed at the pool and spent some time in the haman. it was getting around 9pm when i looked to see if i could find one more cutie. i thought about going with sara again but got snagged by a thin (just the way i like them) lady who said she was from italy. i suspected that she might actually be romanian but that's ok because i like romanians too. called herself renata and though she had a "shark" vibe to her i had to give her a go. she wasn't all that exciting in the fucking department but i must admit that her oral skills were above par. don't know if i'd go with her again though.
i'm taking a break from the fkk scene today. just got a nice massage from a cute thai chick at longma. while leaving longma i noticed a japanese massage parlor just a few doors down that peeked my interest. i'll most definitely go back to artemis this friday. should be fun.
dsk
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We have the same tastes, Angus
[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Myself I find the combination of blue eyes with black hair, quite rare but found with some Russian/Eastern European girls, to be unbeatable in terms of beauty.[/QUOTE]
This color combination is also unbeatable in my mind.
There are too many blondes in Germany and it gets boring after a while. A blue eyed woman with jet black hair gets my attention any time.
I can recommend Leila at Blue Note. Blue eyes. She says though she is a natural blonde who had her hair dyed jet black. She also has a nice figure.
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Artemis Visit next week
Hi
I will be in Berlin next week on Thursday and Friday - anybody interested in meeting up on either of those days from, say, 6 pm onwards?
Grussen
Charlie
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The Devil meets Dionysos - we seem to have much in common.
One thing I like about Berlin is that I can exercise my body, my brain, and my sexual appetite (ie, loins) all in the same day. I made another visit to the Pergamon Museum and they had an interesting exhibit about the ancient god Dionysos. Wine, women, song. Now that's a God that I could follow!
Went to Artemis again on Friday and it was surprisingly slow. I was hoping for an influx of hot chicks that tend to show up only on the busier days, but it was the same old group of birds from when I was there Wednesday. Many of the gals weren't up to my standards. Of the few that I did like, I had already been with the vast majority recently (do I visit Artemis THAT often? ). I was there for hours chating with some gals while turning away others until finally around 10PM I spied a chick I hadn't seen before. She had a firm, athletic type body and jet black hair. I tracked her down in the main bar area an sealed the deal. She called herself Xenea and is apparently a local Berliner. We had a really good workout in one of the rooms and spent sometime talking afterwards. Nice gal.
That's all from Berlin, tomorrow I'll head to Frankfurt for some more fun. I'll be sure not to go to the same FKK twice. Mr. Happy simply likes variety way too much.
DSK
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Angus’ Russian night at the”A”
I was at Artemis last night early hoping to sauna and then spend an hour with my current favorite. I spent a good long while in the sauna and then headed to the bar upstairs. The early evening crowd was sparse, especially very few men which surprised me as the Auto show was on at the Messe. At the bar I was approached by the usual day girls trying for one more before leaving for the day.
At around 19:00 I headed back down to the sauna/lower bar to wait. By about 20:00 I was beginning to realize that my regular would not be showing up tonight. I was disappointed but still had some hope so it was back up stairs for a bit more waiting and fending off, this time the new girls, coming on shift and full of vim and vigor for a first session.
20:30-20:45 I thought, no she is not working tonight. What to do? I headed for the dining room, ate some meatloaf & potatoes and then went again to sit in the bar and consider. Now I had a great excuse for not going with the girls who approached-digesting diner. And approach they did as there really did seem to be a shortage of punters and lots of girls.
By around 21:30 I was fully ready to admit that the night would not turn out as I had hopped but that I might as well, as I was there, enjoy myself none the less. Trouble is that when I find a girl I like I tend to compare all others to her and I did not want a disappointing session so I knew that I had to chose well tonight.
One girl I had in mind was Ella, mentioned a few reports back by member Nukrimo I was pretty sure by his description which girl she was and had been approached by her earlier and liked her manner. I sat at the bar for a while and it was not long before I spotted her coming towards me, scanning the room and looking for potential customers. When she walked past me I gave her a big smile and she was rubbing her sexy body against me before I could blink.
As mentioned before, Ella is from Russia, living now in Germany, and she speaks Russian, German and very good English as well. I am not sure of her age but she is not 19. A little bit older (late 20’s, early 30’s?) but with a nice sexy body (enhanced breasts) and a lovely round fleshy ass. We were very soon headed to the rooms upstairs and starting the session.
As soon as we started I knew I had chosen well. This girl is quite simply fantastic in the sack. Her kisses are soft and enthusiastic. Her blow job is one of the best I have had in the very long time and she just seems to enjoy fucking. She is a very skilled companion and really seems to enjoy the activities in the room. I was very, very tempted to do a cim with her but ended up fucking her doggy style which was a very nice end to the session. Every thing with her seemed easy and there was absolutely no pressure or up sell though she did let me know that she offers the full menu. I am guessing that she is a smart girl who realizes that she will get repeat business this way.
So Ella gets Angus’ 5 star rating. If you are looking for her she is Blond (dyed I would say) enhanced breasts, cute baby face, big eyes and she tends to wear a large net body stocking. She is very approachable and easy to talk to.
I recuperated in the sauna and then headed back upstairs thinking I should leave but alos a bit hungry for another session. But I did not want a lack luster session to take the shine off my fantastic session with Ella. There were a couple of girls I had in mind. One was the Julia Lewis look alike mentioned a few posts back by Nukrimo. It is 100% true that this girl is a dead ringer for Julia Lewis. But from Nukrimo’s report she did not sound like a really great performer so I was a bit luke warm on the idea of hooking up with her .
The other girl I had in mind was a girl, never did find out her name, who resembles a young Carherine Zeta Jones. But again I was not 100% enthusiastic and she struck me as a bit hard to get a hold of so I let her pass.
Finally, just before I was going to leave I spied Aida, mentioned by the Devil two posts back. Another Russian, Aida is very tall, slim and pleasing to look at. We had a short interaction earlier so I motioned her over and soon we were upstairs in a room. Another good choice I soon realized. Her bj was not quite up to Ella’s but was still very, very good. She is sensuous and un-rushed and enjoys the session. She also was very cool about letting me know what was available without giving any pressure to spend more. I would 100% repeat with her.
After Aida I quickly dressed and left, exhausted and fully satisfied with my night of Russian beauties at Artemis. I guess not hooking up with my regular was okay after all. Just goes to show that in this game one must be flexible.
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From Russia with love.
Yeh Angus,
My last night at Artemis; Aida was especially persistant in trying to get me to go with her again. Every 30 mins she would come up to me a say "Let's go to room! ". Every thirty minutes for about eight hours. Sheesh! She's a sweet lady, but was starting to get on my nerves after a while. I would have been happy to go with her again but I have a rule that I won't have sex with the same women I had sex with on a recent visit. My one exception is if the lady is super hot and a PSE in the sack. Just one of my quirks.
I just arrived in Frankfurt. Palace, Oase, I'm on my way.
DSK
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Does the entry fee last for the whole day, or expires when you leave? Do they give you a ticket or something?
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[QUOTE=Tuxsmasher]Does the entry fee last for the whole day, or expires when you leave? Do they give you a ticket or something?[/QUOTE]
If you leave and tell them that you wanna return they will give you some kind of re-entry identification.
HB
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top shark/top best
What about a "list of shark" from Artemis? Let's speak about worst sharky ladies, top 5 for example. And. Why not. Top 5 best girl in "A"?
And another question: how many asian/thais/black ladies are in A?
Thanks
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[QUOTE=Edie72]And another question: how many asian/thais/black ladies are in A?[/QUOTE]The times I have been at Artemis (6) I always found at least 3-4 black girls (mostly brazilian/caribbean but with the occasional african lady) while just once I saw one girl who looked thai (didn't approach her).
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]So Ella gets Angus’ 5 star rating. If you are looking for her she is Blond (dyed I would say) enhanced breasts, cute baby face, big eyes and she tends to wear a large net body stocking. She is very approachable and easy to talk to.[/QUOTE]Angus, I'm glad you have discovered Ella she is indeed very friendly, making sure you are completely relaxed. It is also true waht you say about her kisses. She has had my top rating for a long time now but it is a pity I have missed her on the last 2 visits
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Slow night at Artemis
on a brief overnight stop in berlin, i found myself in a curious situation: i had visited pussy club earlier that day (see report here: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=851450&postcount=2587[/url]) and was torn between the cheap, dirty ambience of pussy club and the proven, luxurious pampering i could receive. if in luck. in artemis. i had a date with friends that night, so at 11 pm i figured my visit to pc would end up being really short. and artemis was closer to my hotel, anyway. i was aftraid, though, that the weekend automesse crowd would still be in town and i would find the place full of fellow punters.
that was not the case.
as i arrived to the club and paid my 80 euros and entered the mens area, i wondered if the place was closed: nobody in the shower, nobody in the locker room, only the pounding of a disco beat from the club next door. i showered and. as i hadn't eaten in 12 hours. headed straight to the dining room. there were about 40 girls in the main lounge and about half as many men. promising. as i ate, i engaged in some eye-games with an east european slender blonde, who was also eating a few tables away.
after a surprisingly tasty meal, i decided i would play it cool: i asked for a glass of water and sat down on one of the sofas near the upstairs kino. then started the parade: every 3 or 4 minutes a girl would arrive and ask if i wanted company, started caressing me and tell how good they could make me feel. shark attack? maybe, but i pleaded guilty of eating too hefty a meal and kept saying "later, babe, later". yeah. much later! there was emma, bia, lot names i forgot as soon as they entered my ears. where was ella? samira? sabrina? simona?
meanwhile, the blonde from the dining room had settled on one of the divans nearby with her friend. they were smoking and chatting and i exchanged a few smiles with the blonde, afraid she would turn out to be one of the sharks and run over to me in a whiff and do the same "i can make you relax"-routine. i sat back and watched the pole dancers do their stuff.
suddenly, the blonde was off with a guy, who just came and took her upstairs without much negotiation (well, there isn't much to negotiate, is there). blonde's friend was left on the divan by herself. i put my slippers on, walked over and climbed on the divan with her. she told she was patsy (or was it nancy) from romania and had been in germany about 3 years. we talked going on a better part of an hour and started to cuddle and it was finally i who made the suggestion of finding a room. oh, i love these slow nights!
patsy had perfect, pointy little breasts and small body, brown hair dyed blonde and a very good attitude. while we started with little pecks of a kiss, full dfk was also on the menu later on. her cbj was really deep and she said she could go even deeper without the condom on. my head spinning, but i declined the offer, although everything in me screamed "go for it, buddy. fuck the risks! ". she was really good at reading my needs and the time spent on the room was definitely more than 30 minutes. still, when i asked what i owed her, she said "oh, 60 euros will be plenty enough. i am not making any money tonight, anyway". although not a stunner, she is one of the most talented providers i have met at any club in germany. ok, i admit, i tipped her.
i went to the wellness area, had a shower and relaxed in the sauna for a while. afterwards i started looking for patsy's friend, who i had found out was named kristina, but couldn't find her. i sat by the dancers stage and watched the talented strippers. different songs, same routines. a blonde sitting on a couch in front of me caught my eye. she looked like an all-american cheerleader, but even though she smiled at me, she didn't come over. "promising", i thought.
i took a stroll and found kristina with patsy on the divans, again. patsy must have told about me to her friend, since, as i sat on the edge of the divan, kristina rose and said she would leave us to talk. i asked her to stay, but kristina just went off to stand by the lounge entrance. patsy couldn't explain her friends behaviour. after chatting with patsy for a while, i went to kristina, but she wouldn't talk to me, saying "but you are patsy's friend". i was puzzled! oh, man.
well, maybe a bite to eat would clear my thoughts. i had some salad in the dining room and went to rinse my mouth. as i entered the mens locker room, the cheerleader look-alike was there drying her hair. we exchanged some teasing remarks and she pointed the blowdryer under my robe and started to "blow" me. i had to wrestle the apparatus out of her hands.
i went to the lounge, sat on the same sofa again and. like waving a magic wand. the parade started all over again, some of them new girls, but mostly ones that already had made a pass. some even said they would include cim in the 30 minutes without extra. the cute playful blonde, now without the dryer, was talking with her friend on a nearby divan. i winked at her and she came over, leaned over the armrest and started to chat with me. just all-around, everyday bar-talk, no hard selling involved. after about 10 minutes, she asked if i minded if she smoked. "go ahead", i said and she fetched her cigarettes from the bar and sat by me. she said she was from italy and her name was raffaella. she had a youthfully beautiful face and her real haircolor seemed to be closer to ash-blonde or dirty blonde, but she reminded me of mena suvari from the movie american pie. we talked about names and languages, money and slow nights at artemis, boyfriends and girlfriends, equality of sexes, punters, music. you name it. after more than an hour on the couch, she asked, if. maybe. i was ever going to take her to a room. i promised i would.
here i don't want to go on to the details, but she was so totally gfe as i could hope for in an fkk. again, no clock-watching. we stayed in the room for a long, long time, chatting and it was finally i who pushed her out of there, as it was getting late. i really wanted to tip her, but i was at the end of my rope there. "next time", i promised her. and there will be a next time. take good care of this gal, boys!
so total time spent in the club was about 5 hours. only two sessions, but a lot of insight into the going-ons of an fkk on a slow night. some girls were desperately trying to scrape together the 100 euros they needed for next days entrance. some where making good money in a bad situation like this. even as i was coming out of the shower and dropped my slippers in to the barrel, two russian dreamgirls stopped on the door and offered a threesome.
some of the fellows here have written about the bliss of a slow night at artemis. now that i've seen it, i believe it. the more i come here, the less i miss kd, vk and royal.
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Asian or Black chicks in Artemis?
During my recent trips (s) to Artemis I encountered three Asian ladies. Two of them were Thai. One I had been with last October, she's pretty nice but the other Thai gal is even smaller, younger, has a nicer body, and overall hotter IMO. They are friends and sometimes hang out together. Possibilty of an Asian two-fer is good, I reckon.
There's also a gal from Malaysia that's currently there. She doesn't do much for me in the looks department, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
I noticed one black chick I seemed to be from America? Never spoke more than two words to her so I'm not sure. She wasn't my type. I remember seeing one or two Latinas that might have been Latin.
DSK
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Artemis Saturday Night, Feb. 28
Once More I Spent Saturday Evening at Artemis. I arrived early (16:00) and spent and good Long while in the sauna and pool (very relaxing) before retiring to a big downstairs sofa to read for an hour or so.
The girls left me pretty much alone until Leila (not sure about the name) decided that I was to have about session With her. Only trouble being that I found her completely and utterly unattractive. She is a “larger” gal with dark hair in sort of a page-boy cut, wearing a black corset with big floppy tits hanging down over the top. She sat real close, kept trying to grab my dick and sticking her face close to mine, giving me “bedroom eyes” and sticking her tongue out and wiggling it like a demented serpent.
No way!
Anyway, more about Leila later.
Next I was accosted by the self proclaimed bj queen of Artemis. Sorry I don’t remember the name. This girl looked good from about 3 meters but close up she looked older and wore a lot of make up. But what a sales pitch. In all honesty the sales pitch was very, very good and even though my spidy sense was tingling away like crazy, little “A” was responding to her spiel, a fact that did not go unnoticed by her.
Her claim was that she had no gag reflex and that she would take my dick right into her throat. Tempting. However, the big head was also in order tonight and I kept wondering about the fact that she was wearing all that make up....
IMO a good bj is wet, drolly and sloppy, as well as deep. As girl with so much carefully applied make up is unlikely to really slobber all over my dick is she. She kept up her sales pitch for a good 15 minutes, telling me that I had better act now as she would be fully booked later on.
In the end I turned her down and while it is true that I did not see her for a good 3 hours after that, by around 22:00 I noticed that she was at a losse end and prowling the kinos just like any other girl on a less than busy Saturday night at the “A”.
Next up was Vivian who I did eventually take to a room. A very nice girl. 25, very slim, small breast, long dark hair. She told me that she is from Berlin but was born in Slovakia. Vivian was at the bar downstairs and we started smiling at each other. Finally she got up and came over to me, sitting on a stool until I invited her to sit on the couch with me. We chatted and flirted for a good half hour before she suggested we might head to a room. I honestly told her that I really like her but that I was also waiting for another girl who may or may not show tonight. With this she seemed totally alright and still stayed with me chatting. Another 15 minutes passed and I finally told her that it looked like the girl I was waiting on would not show (it was by now around 20:30) so it would be very nice to head to a room together. We had been heavily flirting for the past half hour and I was ready for a session.
As you no doubt can guess it was a very, very good session. I will definitely repeat with this girl given the chance.
Next up (sometime later) was Bella, a 20 year old Turkish girl with a beautiful body, full breasts, blond-ish streaked hair and a pussy piercing. This session was good but not great. Her body was what I enjoyed but the connection was not so strong. She is, IMO, a good solid provider but with me lacked a bit of passion. I would probably not repeat with Bella unless she got real flirty and friendly and spent a long while teasing and enticing me.
Next came Angel from Hungary. Angel seems to be a very nice girl, around 20-23, long brown hair, apple breasts and a slim figure. We had been chatting the past two times I had been at Artemis and I had always ended up putting her off. And she kept coming back.
Tonight, later in the evening I kind of felt like I had run out of excuses, or she wore me down and I finally agreed to a session.In the room I found her to be much less passionate than was her promise. I sort of knew that this was how it would be and in fact joked with her on the way to the room that by the end of the session I would be satisfied and that she would be unsatisfied, but not for the reason she thought.
In fact this is what happened. I gave her good long licking in which I am fairly sure that she had at least a small “O”. Then it was my turn and she started one of those very sub-standard bjs one occasionally gets. The bj was mostly a hand job with the lips and mouth hovering somewhere near the dick and very occasionally actually getting involved in the action.
In the end the half hour was over and little A was now where near ready to come. In fact he was more or less unresponsive and down for the count.
But Angel then started pressuring me to extend to an hour session. No way! I said.
She got all pouty and pissy about it which only served to strengthen my resolve and I got up and put the robe on, telling her it was over and I was paying her 60 euros and that I was quite satisfied-which, funnily enough, was true.
Back to Leila. Every time I sat down and she saw me she came over, sat on top of me (heavy) stuck her face in mine and did the tongue wiggle thing. I tried every excuse I could think of until finally I decided that indeed honesty is the best approach and told her that there was no way that we would ever have a session together. The poor girl should have left it there but still she insisted on knowing why. So I told her that it was because I was jot in the least bit attracted to her. This shut her up in a hurry, she sat there looking insulted for several minutes and finally left me not to bother me again. Sweet relief.
I guess I should have left at this point but I was hungry for one more. It took ages to settle on anyone and by this time it was late and the mood seemed very restless to me. I had a couple of hopefuls (the Catherine Zeta-Jones look alike for one) but all of them seemed hard to contact.
Finally by the stairs I spotted Anya (not sure of the name) a sort of slutty, skinny girl who I found out was Romanian. She had a sort of gap tooth smile that I found sort of sexy for some reason and a very flesh pair of pussy lips that I managed to scope.
Off to the room we went. All in all it was a good session. She was very agreeable and had a sexy little body. It is doubtful though that I would repeat with this girl. Curiosity satisfied I would choose someone else.
In the end I left Artemis at around 2:30, very much exhausted and spent. A good Saturday night and my last one for a few weeks due to work commitments.
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]
Next up (sometime later) was Bella, a 20 year old Turkish girl with a beautiful body, full breasts, blond-ish streaked hair and a pussy piercing. This session was good but not great. Her body was what I enjoyed but the connection was not so strong. She is, IMO, a good solid provider but with me lacked a bit of passion. I would probably not repeat with Bella unless she got real flirty and friendly and spent a long while teasing and enticing me.
Next came Angel from Hungary. Angel seems to be a very nice girl, around 20-23, long brown hair, apple breasts and a slim figure. We had been chatting the past two times I had been at Artemis and I had always ended up putting her off. And she kept coming back.
Tonight, later in the evening I kind of felt like I had run out of excuses, or she wore me down and I finally agreed to a session.In the room I found her to be much less passionate than was her promise. I sort of knew that this was how it would be and in fact joked with her on the way to the room that by the end of the session I would be satisfied and that she would be unsatisfied, but not for the reason she thought...
...Then it was my turn and she started one of those very sub-standard bjs one occasionally gets. The bj was mostly a hand job with the lips and mouth hovering somewhere near the dick and very occasionally actually getting involved in the action...
...Finally by the stairs I spotted Anya (not sure of the name) a sort of slutty, skinny girl who I found out was Romanian. She had a sort of gap tooth smile that I found sort of sexy for some reason and a very flesh pair of pussy lips that I managed to scope.
Off to the room we went. All in all it was a good session. She was very agreeable and had a sexy little body. It is doubtful though that I would repeat with this girl. Curiosity satisfied I would choose someone else.
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Love 'em and leave 'em, Angus, sometimes that's what a poor monger must do. Sad isn't it? Fuck 'em and chuck em, that's just the way it goes...until you meet the one or two (like yours who didn't show up).
Great Reports, Mr Angus. Hard to believe you made your first FKK visit --when was it?-- just a few months ago?
Aren't you ever tempted to get on an ICE and head to Duesseldorf or Frankfurt, just try out another FKK just for comparison? I bet you'd love Bernd's outside Bonn or Oase near Frankfurt...
Keep em coming, mate...
Ortos
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Aren't you ever tempted to get on an ICE and head to Duesseldorf or Frankfurt, just try out another FKK just for comparison? I bet you'd love Bernd's outside Bonn or Oase near Frankfurt...
Keep em coming, mate...
Ortos[/QUOTE]
I am tempted. Very much so. But when I add in the hotel costs for an over night stay it gets expensive. But things are going well at work and maybe by next Autumn I will be financially ready to make a trip like that.
And maybe I should also look at the possibility of a night train back to Berlin. That I could handle.
I was actually talking about this with ISG member Chukar who meet up with me last Monday evening for a drink here in Berlin. With the lower cost of entrance and lower session prices it just might make sense.
In the mean time, yes I have more or less given up the bordellos (except for the occasional session and my regular sweetie Adriana at MR who I try to see once a month) in favor of Artemis. I like the fact that you can hang out there for many hours relaxing in the downstairs lounge and using the wellness facilities.
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Hotels near Artemis?
I am sorry if this off topic here guys. First off this is a wonderful site to be in! I have read some wonderful trip here and I am now prepared to go to Germany. I would like to know what hotel is near Artemis? I read that Hotel Kronprinz is walking distance with Artemis. But unfortunalty they are booked up in mid May, thats the date I am planning to be in Berlin. Can someone recommend me a nice cheap hotel that is close to Artemis so cad fare would not ruin my trip. I am coming from the US, so currency is heavy on me.
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[QUOTE=Ortos]Love 'em and leave 'em, Angus, sometimes that's what a poor monger must do. Sad isn't it? Fuck 'em and chuck em, that's just the way it goes...until you meet the one or two (like yours who didn't show up).
Great Reports, Mr Angus. Hard to believe you made your first FKK visit --when was it?-- just a few months ago?
Aren't you ever tempted to get on an ICE and head to Duesseldorf or Frankfurt, just try out another FKK just for comparison? I bet you'd love Bernd's outside Bonn or Oase near Frankfurt...
Keep em coming, mate...
Ortos[/QUOTE]
Angus- Another great report. Deserves to be put on ROD. So I will...
Ortos- When I last saw Angus in September, he had not yet been to Artemis. He was thinking about it. We spoke about this and I said that he just had to try it once. How could our Berlin meister live so close and never have visited his local FKK which is frequented by so many casual visitors to his home city?How could his epic "Berlin Mongering Guide" be complete without this one last chapter?
Now see what we've done! He's become our Artemis- meister and has really honed his FKK skills and mambo, but we've lost the best expert that we had on the Berlin prive haus scene.
I also suggested that he just had to visit Bernd's and Oase, and offered to be his driver and guide if he ever got the urge. Now, I fear that he will never leave Berlin for too long, since, he might miss the return of his fave Artemis lady...
Angus- Btw, the offer still stands.
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[QUOTE=Lottanutt]I am sorry if this off topic here guys. First off this is a wonderful site to be in! I have read some wonderful trip here and I am now prepared to go to Germany. I would like to know what hotel is near Artemis? I read that Hotel Kronprinz is walking distance with Artemis. But unfortunalty they are booked up in mid May, thats the date I am planning to be in Berlin. Can someone recommend me a nice cheap hotel that is close to Artemis so cad fare would not ruin my trip. I am coming from the US, so currency is heavy on me.[/QUOTE]
Hey, Lottanutt. You might wish to try here: [url]http://www.hotel.de/SearchAllLocation.aspx?lng=EN[/url]
In the menue just enter the address: Halenseestr. 36, 10711, Berlin .. Then select "Germany" and enter the rest of the parameters [including the vicinity].
"Ibis Hotel Berlin Messe" seems to be within nearly the same distance as "Kronprinz" - 700 meters, to be precise - and should cost you around EUR 70-80 per night [though pricies vary if there are fairs during the days of your visit].
There are also a couple more within 1km radius .. Cannot recommend any, though, as I've never stayed there.
In any case, hotel.de is the most resonable way to book hotels in Germany.
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Thank You
I like bird,
Thank you so much. That will help alot, I was told 3 nights is good in Berlin but I hear 5 days would good to cover it all. Think I will stay for 6 nights. I will be buying a German rail pass and monger in Frankfurt, hannover, colonge, etc. I am still debating if I should do 3 weeks or a month. its getting expensive.
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Hotels
I went to Hotel Messe last week and it was 26 euros for the night booked on [url]www.booking.com[/url]. There's an Ibis opposite that was 59 euros for the night. Both 10 mins walking distance
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Moral depravity
Our Berlinmeister has become an Artemismeister! Ach!
The road to moral depravity is a slippery one!
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[QUOTE=I Like Birds]Hey, Lottanutt. You might wish to try here: [url]http://www.hotel.de/SearchAllLocation.aspx?lng=EN[/url]
In the menue just enter the address: Halenseestr. 36, 10711, Berlin .. Then select "Germany" and enter the rest of the parameters [including the vicinity].
"Ibis Hotel Berlin Messe" seems to be within nearly the same distance as "Kronprinz" - 700 meters, to be precise - and should cost you around EUR 70-80 per night [though pricies vary if there are fairs during the days of your visit].
There are also a couple more within 1km radius .. Cannot recommend any, though, as I've never stayed there.
In any case, hotel.de is the most resonable way to book hotels in Germany.[/QUOTE]Thank you so much Bird. I was told that 3 nights in Berlin is to much, and some tell me that 3 is not enough to see Berlin. My primary goal is to do FKK in the evening till dawn :-) but I like to see Berlin and its culture. 5 nights okay to see Berlin? I am planning to stay in Germany for a month.
Any recommnedations to cheap places to stay for a single male that only needs a place to sleep, and shower? private bathroom is a must for me. Where is the RDd in Berlin? I would believe that would be Charlotburgen?
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Hotel in Berlin
[QUOTE=Lottanutt]
Can someone recommend me a nice cheap hotel that is close to Artemis so cad fare would not ruin my trip. I am coming from the US, so currency is heavy on me.
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Hi Lottanutt,
I don't know if this information helps you but I dare say: I think you don't need a hotel in warking distance to Artemis, because Berlin has an excellent railway system, running all over the night in week end. And my favorite hotel in Berlin is Hotel Bogota.
[url]http://www.hotel-bogota.de/default.aspx?lang=en[/url]
This budget hotel is located in only two stops of S5 from Westcreuz(Artemis)and provides you a cheap but so wonderful retro mood style decoration room in perfect cleanness . The reception is open 24/24. It will cost you 2 or 3 euros to get to Artemis by train or 10 euros by taxi. You can avoid Hotel Ibis or this kind of tasteless, dull hotels to make your stay in Berlin nicer.
WBS
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First visit to Artemis
Visited Artemis in Berlin first time. It is conveniently located at S-Bahn Westkreuz station. Get out of the exit, go left, go over the bridge, then you can see it on the left.
The entrance fee was 80 euro, 30 min session was 60. CIM was 50. Other services, I did not try and did not ask (Greek, COB, etc). Non alcohol drinks were free.
I went in shortly after 3 PM. They told me they stop serving breakfast at 3 PM. I just missed it. They said dinner will be served at 6 PM.
I was able to access the basement, and the 1st floor without girl's company. You need to go with a gril (or girls) to access the top floor.
Basement was smoke free. It had a gym, pool, sauna, kino, a bar, etc. First floor had locker rooms (men's and women's), another bar and lounge, another kino, and the dinning room. Food was just okay. Nothing special. Lounge and bar area on the 1st floor was filled with smoke.
Spotted a few potentials during daytime, but not totally my type. So I took it easy and waited for the night shift's arrival (8 PM).
I met Daniella (from Austria) and had a nice session, although we left the room after 20 min. She was fair skined, bleached blonde, with very light blue eyes. She had also Asian like eye shapes, and if she wasn't fair skinned with light blue eyes, I would have thought she was from one of the Stans.
I also spotted Samuela (Turkey) and Isabella (Romania) as potential candidates. But they became busy as the evening went and I wasn't patient enough to wait for them. So I called off the night and went back to the hotel.
Overall, Artemis is a nice club, but it wasn't as comfortable as Palace. The best place to obsesrve the girls and interaction between them and the customers are at the stairways. So I needed to stand up all the time. The first floor bar was smoky. Food wasn't that great.
This is already a very nice club. And with a bit of changes, I thought this would be a superb club.
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Nearby hotel
Lottanutt: try Adam Hotel. Is near Charlottenburg. Very Basic, good breakfast, nu more than 40 E/day, I've been there. And the taxi from Artemis to Hotel, at night is not more than 6-8 Euro (If you prefere walking at night will be 15-20 minutes)
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Another Saturday Night...
I know I said that I would not be back at Artemis for a few weeks last night...but...I did not work long, as expected, on Friday and Saturday I found myself finished at noon...so...by around 16:30 on Saturday I found myself on the bus (almost door to door from my place to Artemis, how convenient) and headed for another night in the company of all the lovely ladies.
First things first I had a Milch Cafe at the bar then headed to the sauna for an hour or so. The I settled in at the downstairs bar on a sofa to read and wait. I read for some time and only had to turn down a couple of ladies who happened by. At around 19:30 Ella appeared and came over for a hug. Happy to see her I immediately asked her to a room.
The fav lady I was sort of waiting for looked like she would be again a no-show for the evening. She has not showed now for three weeks and I am beginning to admit to the fact that she may not be back.... Good thing I am not pining and that there are plenty of other ladies to distract me in the mean time!
What can I say about Ella? She was quite simply fantastic. I know that I am sometimes given to superlatives but I have to now say that Ella ranks up there with the top three service providers that I have seen in my life.
We started with a serious DFK session, teeth clicking, tongues dancing and lips (she has the softest lips) squishing. From there we went to a lengthy 69 until she sat back, my nose buried in her pussy as she rode my face and tongue to an orgasm-I love it when a lady rides my face like that.
Then she positioned herself between my legs and started to suck my cock. She really sucks cock when she sucks cock. I know that may sound a bit ridiculous but I think many women are really not so involved when they have a dick in their mouth. Ella seems to know just exactly how much pressure to use so that the pleasure is maximum and never crossing the sensitivity line. And she does not ignore the boys either again knowing just how hard to suck them without causing any pain.
Now I have to admit that as I lay there she could have just finished me with her mouth. Lets face it, a woman could really get a guy to agree to anything in the world when she has his dick in her mouth and is giving a top notch bj. In the back of my mind I was thinking-oh, and I sort of wanted this to be an inexpensive night....
But to her absolute credit she did not take any advantage of me in this weakened, completely helpless in fact, position. Rather as I approached my orgasm she took her mouth off little A and finished me with her hand. And there was nothing to complain about as her hj, like her bj, was top of the line perfect. I think some of my potential babies might still be hanging from the ceiling in Artemis tonight.
After a cuddle and a chat I headed down stairs to happily pay Ella, hit the shower and then the dining room for some diner-a beef in gravy concoction with the gravy tasting mainly of salt. Less than impressive and I agree that the food at Artemis could certainly be improved.
Than back to the downstairs to finish my book and recuperate.
The rest of the evening was kind of restless for me, once finishing my book and heading up to the big bar and all the action. It was not a very busy night. Indeed at one point, at around 22:00 I was in the upstairs bar and it was virtually empty of girls and men.
When the girls were there they would not leave you alone, well some of them anyway. I had yet another encounter with Leila from last week. After talking to her for a couple of minutes I realized that she had no idea who I was and that we had spoken last week and that I had told her that I had no attraction to her what so ever. So I had to repeat this. And this time she seemed to take it personally and asked incredulously if I was saying that she was unattractive. Yikes!
Finally I got it through to her that I was trying to tell her that she was not my type. I thought that after this she would leave me alone but still she would give it a try from time to time.
As it got later and later I knew that I wanted another session but had no real idea with whom. As always there are stirrings of interest from time to time but nobody really jumping out. At around 1:00 I gave myself a 15 minute limit to find a girl or leave. Then at about 1:10 I was headed towards the showers when at the door to the bar I spied a girl I had seen a couple of times earlier but never in really good light. Here by the door, as she chat up another punter who looked less than interested she looked really, really good. I waited a couple of minutes for him to turn her down and then as she turned to leave I motioned her over and asked her name.
Roberta. From Italy she claimed, though I suspect that this is a marketing gimmick on her part and she is in fact Romanian. But I could be wrong. Not wasting any time I asked her to a room and up we went, only to be met with a 20 minute wait for a room. No worries, the time was put to good use with a bit of talk and with Roberta getting little A ready under the robe, unrequested I might ad. A good sign?
In the room I soon realized that I had chosen well. Roberta ia a very sweet girl with a very hot, slightly skanky look to her. And when I lay her back on the bed and opened her legs I was also greeted by a very flesh prominent pair of pussy lips which regular readers will know are a real favorite of mine.
With Roberta the sex was good. Actually very good. Her bj was soft, smooth and she kept her hands well away. Her fake moans were just authentic enough to keep me interested and she was agreeable to everything I suggested even a bit of finger play which I find a rarity in Artemis girls.
We were in the room the full half hour after which I paid the girl, hit the change room and was soon on my way home. All in all a very satisfying evening.
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Hotel Bogota and Helmut Newton
[QUOTE=West By Sun]Hi Lottanutt,
I don't know if this information helps you but I dare say: I think you don't need a hotel in warking distance to Artemis, because Berlin has an excellent railway system, running all over the night in week end. And my favorite hotel in Berlin is Hotel Bogota.
[url]http://www.hotel-bogota.de/default.aspx?lang=en[/url]
This budget hotel is located in only two stops of S5 from Westcreuz(Artemis)and provides you a cheap but so wonderful retro mood style decoration room in perfect cleanness . The reception is open 24/24. It will cost you 2 or 3 euros to get to Artemis by train or 10 euros by taxi. You can avoid Hotel Ibis or this kind of tasteless, dull hotels to make your stay in Berlin nicer.
WBS[/QUOTE]
I can recommend Hotel Bogota too. Its basic but well situated just at the corner of the Kudamm.
Helmut Newton, the fashion and erotic photographer, once had his studios in the building.
It also has a Nazi past. I forget who used to have offices there. Might have been H. Himmler himself.
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Lates News : Bratwurst Does Artemis !
The good part of my job is I can more or less decide where to be and when in Germany. So on my way to Hamburg I am spending two days on business in Berlin. First night in town this Wednesday: Artemis it had to be, for the first time. Being sort of regular at Oase and GT (my fave clubs) I was very focused on this visit, just like a restaurant gourmet testing a new top class restaurant with high expectations.
Club facilities: very up-class atmosphere, chic lounge with huge bar counter (very nice the raised floor with sofas where everything can be perfectly observed), nicely displayed porno-kino. The lower floor is a huge wellness area very clean and welcoming (for the first time I saw people regularly using even the normal indoor pool), and there is another kino and a reasonable gym, for those who want do some push-ups without giving out 60 euros! I would say Artemis wins this against Oase and GT, it almost matches Palace which I would rate as top level.
Rooms: the rooms are all located on the upper floor (plus you can fuck in the kinos and in some small round beds with some weird curtains in the main lounge). Rooms are better fitted and cleaner as Oase (well it’s not that hard), but they are way way too dark and warm, the two things I hate the most). I like GT indoor rooms much better, and even for this Palace remains the top scorer.
Food: I stayed from 7pm to 1230pm, salad buffet was pretty ok but the announced fish was out and the chicken. Well, let’s just say I ate more pussy then food (new patent for Pussy Diet? )
Pussy: well guys, believe it or not, I was blessed at my first Artemis attempt with 120 checked-in girls. I guess it’s not the rule, since there is a busy Tourism Mess in town, but for sure a nice suprise for your friendly Bratwurst! All my stay there were never more robes than Mushis, and quite a party vibe in the main lounge. The quality of the cattle was very high as well, easily matched Oase, GT or Palace on good days. Just some of them could get pushy (not the best ones), though not like in FKK World. Overall relaxed and enjoyable atmosphere.
First zimmer with LENA: yes guys, she is the gorgeous BEATA when doing Oase. One of the prettiest smiles on earth, no make up, no earrings (but some tottoos and mushi piercing! ), full natural breasts, just the perfect next door hooker. Says she don’t enjoy DFK and DATY with everybody, but as I masturbated her laying on her stomach with my hand while licking her asshole and pussy she was soft and wet in 30 seconds. She delivers a solid BBBJ (though not skilled as other artists), and is overall a fun session.
LENA (ca. 25yo, Poland, short blonde hair, 178cm): face 9, body 8, service 8, 60 euros for full 30mins.
Fyi: BEATA / LENA needs some Abwechslung, and will be doing Oase from next Thursday for some days, grab her while you can down in BHH.
Second zimmer with ELLA: after reading some reports I spotted her in the kino and knew it was her before asking. I confirm the close to perfection ass-waist proportion, and the glowing personlity in and out of the room. Very high rating for the small, round and soft mouthlips (outstanding DFK! ) and the great ass. Too bad all that silicone in her breasts. Even though I did not get a GFE feeling in the session, and received a hot but not 5-star BBBJ (no DT), we really had a wild extended 69 + cowgirl rodeo (I just love small girls riding me! ).
She is an easy choice. Thanks to Angus and others, this forum rules!
ELLA (late 20’s, Russia, short curly blonde, 160cm): face 7, body: 8 (should be 7 in my book, but that ass.), service 8, 60 euros for 35 mins.
There was plenty of choice for another 10 zimmers. I remember reading some bad reports for CONCETTA (italia / germany) but you have to admit that she is one of the hottest gals in the house. A real doll. Lots of other names I forgot, I even saw some GT (SISSI) and OASE (DANA, others) regulars. Lots of bulgarian girls. Lots of italian boys, plus weird Rod Stewart lookalike with dyed hair and moustach was roarring everywhere with clothes (the manager? ). Two sweethearts were giving pole dance shows: one stunning east european looking blonde (with bad boob-job, though) and one nasty small curly redhaed which looked like half an hour of fun. Any help here with the names, guys?
One last comment: PRICE! Entrance is 80 euro, the standard session is 60 euro (extras 50). It is not cheap, if I compare with OASE or (even worse! ) GT, where I don’t expect lower quality sessions. Nonetheless I had a great time, intense sex sessions with two gorgeous ladies, sauna, hamam, dance-show and buffet for 200 euro, therefore I am tempted to be indulgent. No reason to write Berlin off my business schedules!
Ciao, e viva la fica!
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Excellent report Bratwurst. Look for it in the RoD thread.
Thanks
AM
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Information
Which is, in your opinion, the best fkk? I visited only Artemis in Berlin and it was great! Is there one better than Artemis, in Germany or in Switzerland?
Thanks!
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Shower with the ladies?
Have any of you regulars at Artemis ever asked a lady to join you in the shower for a little lathering before a session? This happens to be a major fetish for me - I love to feel a girl's soapy skin. If I can't find that in Artemis, I think I would rather go to a brothel like KD, Liberty or Monrouge. Have you seen any action in the showers?
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[QUOTE=Charles Browne]Have any of you regulars at Artemis ever asked a lady to join you in the shower for a little lathering before a session? This happens to be a major fetish for me - I love to feel a girl's soapy skin. If I can't find that in Artemis, I think I would rather go to a brothel like KD, Liberty or Monrouge. Have you seen any action in the showers?[/QUOTE]
Hi,
Never seen any action in the showers at Artemis. But if you find a girl who is willing there is a single stall shower in the bathroom upstairs (same floor as the rooms) so you could have some privacy.
AM
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Two questions
I have two questions for the forum:
1) Are the girls in this video representative of the average "quality" of the girls in Artemis (age, appearance)? [url]http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2226518/bravo_artms/[/url]
2) If I have about 200 euros to spend, I can either go to Artemis and have two 30 minute sessions (80 entrance, 2x60 for the sessions), or I can go and have two 60 minute sessions @ Monrouge, if I go there before 16.00 in the afternoon. Double the time... How would you choose and why? I don't have hours and hours of available time, so I can't spend the whole afternoon @ Artemis anyway.
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Which one is the best is really subjective depending on who you ask. If you look at the threads here in German FKK sub-forum, you can see which clubs have the most active threads. Besides Artemis, I would say the Hessen big 3 (Palace, World, Oase) and some of the the NRW clubs (Golden Time, Bernds, Living Room) have the most active threads.
[QUOTE=Anarkypg]Which is, in your opinion, the best fkk? I visited only Artemis in Berlin and it was great! Is there one better than Artemis, in Germany or in Switzerland?
Thanks![/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Charles Browne]I have two questions for the forum:
1) Are the girls in this video representative of the average "quality" of the girls in Artemis (age, appearance)? [url]http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2226518/bravo_artms/[/url][/QUOTE]I'd say yes. Unless you are very unlucky and go in a bad day there will always be at least 4-5 girls more beautiful than those of the video (and perhaps even much more beautiful). Obviously your tastes will be the judge but everytime I have been at Artemis I always saw at least 2-3 really stunning women and no more than a couple of downright ugly ones while the rest was more or less like the ones in the video.[QUOTE]2) If I have about 200 euros to spend, I can either go to Artemis and have two 30 minute sessions (80 entrance, 2x60 for the sessions), or I can go and have two 60 minute sessions @ Monrouge, if I go there before 16.00 in the afternoon. Double the time... How would you choose and why? I don't have hours and hours of available time, so I can't spend the whole afternoon @ Artemis anyway.[/QUOTE]Time is not everything. As I am the kind of guy who prefers to spend some minutes to talk with the girl, to see wheter there is something more than a beautiful body or not and given that this is not possible in a classic brothel as Monrouge, I'd say go to Artemis, even if it'll mean less time with the girls.
Unless you like very much one of the Monrouge's girls from the site that is.
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My 2 cents
[QUOTE=Charles Browne]I have two questions for the forum:
1) Are the girls in this video representative of the average "quality" of the girls in Artemis (age, appearance)? [url]http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2226518/bravo_artms/[/url]
2) If I have about 200 euros to spend, I can either go to Artemis and have two 30 minute sessions (80 entrance, 2x60 for the sessions), or I can go and have two 60 minute sessions @ Monrouge, if I go there before 16.00 in the afternoon. Double the time... How would you choose and why? I don't have hours and hours of available time, so I can't spend the whole afternoon @ Artemis anyway.[/QUOTE]
I would agree that this video shows pretty much the average. You will certainly find hotter girls and some that are below this "quality". The blond girl (I forget her name and have no personal experience) is said to be a pretty good lay. But I find her not so hot, just visually I mean. Not really my type.
Question two is more difficult to answer and all I can really do is give some considerations.
First Mon Rouge and their 100 euro offer. This is a great deal-if you can find a girl that really appeals to you and who happens to work weekdays. Not all the girls on the website do. For instance Nicky, who I heartily recommend for a PSE style session, will never be found there in the day so you will not see her for 100 euros/hr..
The one girl I know that will always be there Monday-Friday daytimes is Adriana. She is a very sweet girl and I am a regular with her but I have to say that my recommendation of her is guarded. That is she really only warmed up after multiple sessions and still I have had much better sex in my life than I have with her. But she is so sweet and nice to see that I let that slide and see her anyway.
So that selection for the 100 euro special will be limited.
As for Artemis, 200 euros is really not enough to have a really good time in this club. I think you have to be at least willing to spend 300. You may, in fact, only spend 200 but to have such a low limit (200) will put a lot of pressure on you to chose well, and it is just this sort of pressure that causes us mongers to chose badly.
And I also find that being able to sit and chat a bit with the girls before a session is well worth the higher price and less time in the room actually having sex-i.e. that part of the session you pay for. So I guess in the end, Artemis gets my vote.
Oh, one more thing about my answer to question one. I visit Artemis almost exclusively on Saturday evening so I can really only say that the girls in the video are average for a Saturday night. That is on Saturday night there are always girls much hotter than those in the video. Maybe on a weekday afternoon this is different.
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Hotel Bogota
As a truly born and bred berlin guy, i can recommend Bogoto highly.
Especially around Kudamm, there are still so many nice old style hotels, idealy situated for mongering..so no need to spend money on souless chain hotels
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Thank you very much, Angus, for your advice. I have decided to raise my budget to a little above 300, and try to find a way to spend more time in Artemis than just an hour or two.
A few more questions for the wisdom here:
1) Can I ask a lady to give me a guided tour of the facilities? Would that obligate me to have a session with her?
2) How can I prepare myself for warding off the sharks? I'm sort of submissive, you could say - not sexually or socially, but I'm often easily persuaded. Should I rehearse phrases like "You're lovely, but I just came and wish to have a look around" and "Perhaps later"?
3) What "seals the deal"? Is it only when a lady goes down on little Charlie and puts her mouth on him? Can I engage in heavy genital petting and DFK with a lady, then have second thoughts and pull out of the engagement, without breaking the norm?
4) This is just me being lazy: What do the "extras" cost at Artemis?
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Hi CB,
None of these questions, except the one on prices, has a definitive answer. I can just offer an opinion and some thoughts for your consideration. Remember that at an FKK much depends upon your personal style with the ladies and to some degree, your experience at the FKK and your experience in general. In fact I would say that these things apply in all mongering situation but the FKK is set up so that you can use your style and experience to a greater degree.
[QUOTE=Charles Browne]1) Can I ask a lady to give me a guided tour of the facilities? Would that obligate me to have a session with her?
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I kind of wonder what your intention in doing this would be? I mean Artemis is not so big to just walk around by one’s self to get the lay of the land. It could be good as a sort of bonding device with the lady. But then if you wanted to bond with a lady then maybe you would already be pretty sure that you wanted to session with her.
It could also be good to put her to a little test. I mean if you ask and she out right refuses and give you some weird vibes then maybe she is not so interested in making you happy.
But in all honesty, to me, it sounds a bit, well to be blunt, creepy. If this tour should happen sort of spontaneously then okay. But if you are trying to get to know the lady, there are better ways IMO.
[QUOTE=Charles Browne]2) How can I prepare myself for warding off the sharks? I'm sort of submissive, you could say - not sexually or socially, but I'm often easily persuaded. Should I rehearse phrases like "You're lovely, but I just came and wish to have a look around" and "Perhaps later"? [/QUOTE]
Sorry, there is no way except experience to really stay well away from the shark. But in all honesty I find that the whole shark phenomenon is blown way out of proportion. That is there are not that many out there. Many of the girls that do so, just give bad service (or perhaps sub-par would be a better way of saying it) because that are not that into it.
The trick is to learn to identify who will give good, or at least better, service. To do this you just have to be patient, and yes, to learn to say no the the ladies that you don’t really like(not always easy).
Also, remember where you are. I mean this is an FKK and the ladies are there to make money and hopefully also to have some fun. So if a 20 year old hottie comes up to you, jumps on you and sticks her tongue down your throat you are either a) the most irresistible man that she has seen all week and the total cause of all the dampness between her thighs or b) a likely looking mark or bloody hunk of meat as the case may be.
So best is to go for a lady who holds back a bit and allows you to chat her up. Find someone who will just take a bit of time to talk. If you like her, and get the feeling that she likes you, you will most likely have a good session together. It is an intuitive thing and most of us are intuitive about something. It is just a matter of bringing this intuition to this environment. Sound easy? Remember, nervousness and, dare I say, fear are intuition killers. So just try to relax, be yourself and try to find a lady who is doing the same. They are out there.
[QUOTE=Charles Browne]3) What "seals the deal"? Is it only when a lady goes down on little Charlie and puts her mouth on him? Can I engage in heavy genital petting and DFK with a lady, then have second thoughts and pull out of the engagement, without breaking the norm?[/QUOTE]
Again, this is not cut and dry. Certainly if you initiate kisses you are moving towards commitment (well FKK commitment anyway;-) and need to either break it off immediately if you are not sure, or decide to do the session.
Your cock in her mouth is pretty much a deal clincher for her I would say, as is a finger in her pussy, which I would find unlikely as many of the girls do not enjoy fingering at such an early point in a session. They are not hot and bothered high school girls in the back seat of daddy’s Buick. They are professionals and need a bit of warming up to get to that point.
So for me, I can imagine, that if I was snuggled on a couch with a lady, finger in (or on/around) her pussy I would pretty much think that I was committed to a session and not just sampling the goods. If you are there to sample the goods without paying odds are that your FKK experience will not be very good.
A successful FKK experience requires some maturity, and honesty, from both parties. You have to keep in mind that for the lady it is not so easy all the time being hit on and having guys try to push her limits. Put yourself in her place for a minute and ask yourself-how would I feel?
[QUOTE=Charles Browne] 4) This is just me being lazy: What do the "extras" cost at Artemis?[/QUOTE]
I am not sure of all extras but the basics are: bbbj-included almost always, bbbjcim-50€, Anal-100€, lesbian show with two ladies-50€ for each of the ladies (so a 1/2 hour w/ show would be 220-yikes!) and cob (come on breasts)-50€.
Extras at Artemis are, frankly, sort of expensive. And I guess this is how many of the ladies make their money. I mean the Kino sessions are often quite short (15-20 mins.) and if the lady can get you to cim that puts the price at 110€. Three or four of these session and that is a pretty good night for not so much heavy lifting I would say.
Personally I tend to stay away from the extras at Artemis and if I like a girl go for the extra time of a longer session. If I really want to come in a girls mouth I can do so for 15€ at one of the lesser brothels here in Berlin.
And in all honesty I find that cim is really only worth the extra expense if the girl is at least sort of into it and will not immediately, upon ingesting your goo, run for the waste basket to spit and gag, as happened to me the one time I relaxed my rule and went for cim at Artemis-Isabela, an anorexic-ally thin Moldavian girl, if I remember correctly.
And 50€ for cob-don’t even talk to me about that.
And one final, and general, word-remember that as a new visitor and tourist you are at a bit of a disadvantage at a club like Artemis. The girls are not stupid and they know who is likely to return and who is just there for an adventure and will be gone. Some ladies use this to their advantage, but not all. I have found that at Artemis there are plenty of genuinely nice girls who want you to have fun with them regardless of the likelihood of their ever seeing you again.
But when you first enter Artemis it can be a bit overwhelming especially if it is busy and the girls are in full stalker mode. Probably an afternoon visit would be better for your first time as the atmosphere is a bit more relaxed even though the selection can be less at that time.
Myself, I tend to love the Saturday night buzz but I always take some time at the beginning to relax in the pool and sauna and to gather myself so that I don’t just jump on the first pretty face that comes along.
BTW-I will be at Artemis later today (4:00 pm?) if any one is going. Look for me down in the pool bar relaxing on a sofa and reading a good book before the nights exertions.
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A final word of support
I was just sitting here wondering what else I could possibly say to help CB have a very positive first time experience at when he visits Artemis. I mean I write here, and on the Berlin general board, a lot. The reason I do so is because I love to monger here in Berlin and have gathered a great deal of experience here and in other parts of the world. Despite the fact that mongering is often looked down upon by some, it can be a fun activity and way for men to have the experience of sex for which we all hunger.
One of the reasons that the FKK is such a good place to have this sort of experience is that you get the chance to talk to the girl before committing to a session. Use this to your advantage. I find that if you can make it a goal to make the girl laugh at some dumb joke that you make, with in the first 5 or so minutes of contact, that is a very good indication that you will at least have a decent time with her. Laughter relaxes people and relaxed people tend to have a better time. And to succeed in this goal you wil also have to relax a bit-just try being funny when you are tense. Does not work.
So have a fun and relaxing time CB. remember that it is not a serious activity, mongering. No matter what happens try to have a bit of fun.
And don't forget to write us a report.
AM
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]I was just sitting here wondering what else I could possibly say to help CB have a very positive first time experience at when he visits Artemis. I mean I write here, and on the Berlin general board, a lot. The reason I do so is because I love to monger here in Berlin and have gathered a great deal of experience here and in other parts of the world. Despite the fact that mongering is often looked down upon by some, it can be a fun activity and way for men to have the experience of sex for which we all hunger. [/QUOTE]
Angus,
This is what this board should be all about, helping each other. A while back I wrote some advise for a newbee visiting Palace for the first time. The general principles should be the same for pretty much any club. Basically, it boils down to don't get rushed into the room by an insistent or aggressive pitch, observe and interact with the ladies and finally, give the impression that you are not a tourist and that the will likely see you again in the club.
I hope this helps.
Cheers,
EL
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Charles in Berlin 2 – Conchetta @ FKK Artemis
This is the second report of three about my experiences on the Berlin FKK scene. It consists of some observations about interacting with the girls in Artemis and details a session I had with Conchetta.
First the ambience: I arrived at Artemis on Maundy Thursday by Christian reckoning (9th of April). One of the girls later told me that it was a fairly slow day at the “fickenfabrik” (fuck factory – her words, not mine). I would estimate that there were upwards of 40-50 girls in the establishment, and less than 80 guys at any one time.
Artemis, as you no doubt know if you have read this thread carefully, has three floors. There is a large central stairwell with a broad spiral staircase. The upper floor (2nd) has the fuck-rooms, to put it bluntly. There is a board where girls fetch keys for the rooms. When a room has been used, she puts the key down on a table, where the cleaning ladies pick it up, clean the room and return the key to the board. At least, that’s how I guess it all works.
The middle floor (1st floor) is where most of the girls hang out. There is a big, dark lounge with many couches, a large central bar, and adjoining this lounge are a “kino” and the buffet. Unfortunately for me, Germans tend to smoke a lot in public places. I have a medical condition which makes it difficult for me to stay for long in locations where you can cut the air with a knife. My eyes dry up and start to itch, and my breathing doesn’t work all that well. Better ventilation would have been nice – and a dedicated smoking area, not smoking allowed in the entire room. But that’s just me being Swedish I suppose…
The basement floor is the “wellness” area and features a smallish swimming pool that nobody seemed to be using, a couple of saunas, a solarium, a small gym, the wellness bar and a kino with some adjoining smallish rooms. Also, at the bottom of the stairwell, there is a gigantic sofa-bed where you can lie down and have a rest while sneeking a peak of the beautiful girls walking up and down the stairs.
Next the girls: My first impression was this – and you shall have to excuse me for taking the lord’s name in vain: [b]Oh holy Mary mother of God, how many gorgeous girls there are![/b] I simply couldn’t believe my eyes. I had expected the average age of the girls to be quite a bit higher, but most of them looked to be in the 20-30 years range. There was an abundance of tall, dark-haired euro models with slim, fit bodies and perfect breasts of all sizes. For those who like their girls a little heavier, there were a few MILFs around, and a few young girls with a bit more flesh on their bones, but most girls there were in the 18-23 BMI range (i.e. quite slim).
And since there was such a high female/male ratio, there seemed to be many girls walking around looking for clients. They all honed in on me, it seemed, detecting something in my face that said “fresh newbie meat” and “easy money”. When a naked, gorgeous girl smiles at me in a friendly manner, I tend to automatically smile back. That’s a bad poker face in an FKK, I suppose.
Walking out of the showers, I hadn’t even started down the stairs before I was blocked by a 25-year old eastern European cutie with incredible breasts and a slim killer body and nice face, who put her arms around me, asked my name, wanted to know if it was my first time here, said I spoke good German (I don’t really) – the whole works. I could have gone with her to a room and been happy about having had sex with such a looker, but I had decided long before going that I was going to wait at least 45 minutes before going to a room with a girl, so I politely said I had just arrived and needed a drink first to cool my nerves. Then I added “vielleicht spä***” (perhaps later), which was to become my mantra for the evening.
Walking down the stairs, I was again blocked by a girl and got an armful or naked flesh and a beaming smile. And when I had dodged her, I was blocked again… You get the idea. This was certainly a different experience from LaFolie two days earlier. My problem is that I’m way too polite, I guess. Or just too soft on putting a girl down – I don’t want to disappoint them. I realize this is stupid and to my disadvantage but I just can’t help it.
Anyway, there were some memorable moments before a girl finally trapped me: In the wellness bar below, I saw a slightly chubby black girl sitting on her knees on a barstool while chatting to a guy. She certainly knew that her bubble butt was her best asset, and arched her back to accentuate it. It was one of the most erotic sights I have ever seen. I wish I could go back to Berlin right this moment and ask her that we bring that barstool into a room and have an anal session with her in that kneeling position.
And then there was the overall impression of walking down the main lounge, weaving my way through that sea of gorgeous women smiling at me, beckoning me to join them, standing or reclining in poses designed to be alluring. It was like a scene from straight out of my wildest erotic fantasies as a teenager. This alone was worth the 80 euro entrance fee I think.
What I regret most from the evening at Artemis is that I wasn’t more confident when I was confronted by two gorgeous blondes at the base of the stairwell, offering me a threesome with lesbian show. You see, I had come to Artemis with a short list of names to look for: Ella, Aida and Vivian (in order of priority). One of the two blondes was Ella. Don’t remember the other girl’s name, but she was a very tall and slim blonde from Russia, whose head looked too small for her body. Gorgeous body, though.
Ella spoke excellent English, had an inviting smile and lovely creases around her eyes. Her hair is bleached very blond, her face is very cute with big blue eyes (the prototypical baby face, making her look much younger than she probably is), and she has a tight killer body with nice enhanced breasts. Here is where my regrets are: I didn’t want to say in front of the other girl, that I wanted a session alone with Ella. Stupid, polite idiot is what I berate myself for being!
Instead I declined their offer of a threesome and went on my way, saying to Ella that she should ask me again later. I told her I had heard good things about her, and that I was really interested. But it was not to be. I asked around about her later, went looking for her, had one of her girlfriends tell her I was looking, etc. But she was busy all the time. I shall have to go back soon and be smarter!
Anyway, I guess I should report now on my session with Conchetta. She has been discussed briefly before by Rekarn here: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=834856&postcount=541&highlight=conchetta[/url]
Here is what Judge Absalon has to say about her: ”Also really liked Conchetta, pretty face, 22ish, 5'5", brown hair and eyes, 115 pounds with huge real boobs. She says she is half German half Italian. Other reporter said her boobs were fake but I think they are real and spectacular. Great session with spirited sex and deep throat blow job. No rush. Recommend.”
I would disagree about the 5'5" figure above (165 cm). Rather, she is closer to 170 cm. The is thin, very tan, and has large bolt-on breasts – or else she is a freak of nature. Her breasts felt very natural, but I would bet a large amount of money that they are saline-bags done very well. But I couldn’t care less, since they do look spectacular as J.A. wrote, and feel nice to the touch…
Conchetta blocked my path in the downstair wellness area. I hadn’t seen her before, and if I had watched her for a while I probably wouldn’t have gone to a room with her. She came up very close to me, asked all the usual questions about and gave me a really aggressive porn-style sales pitch about how she loves to deepthroat a cock, feel it in her mouth, etc: licks lips, bites lower lip, gives sultry look steaming with sexual suggestion, touches breast and squirms a bit, comes really close and whispers in my ear how she really likes to feel it down the throat and will give me the best blowjob of my life, and so forth and so on.
This is where I should have stood my ground and said no, because while she certainly was sexy and promised a true PSE, I didn’t feel chemistry or contact. She made no effort to make smalltalk or establish a connection, but only wanted to get me to come to a room ASAP. Also, she seemed to want to avoid being touched. In retrospect, I can’t really believe that I went with her. I guess I’m just too submissive and need to practice being assertive around gorgeous naked women.
We ended up in a room adjacent to the downstairs kino. It had only a bit of textile to cover the door, so it didn’t feel very private, but I soon forgot about that. When the session was about to start, I remembered to ask if she did DFK. She said no, that she only did little pecks on the mouth. When I was about to back out at that time, she quickly agreed to DFK – but as it turned out, that was an empty promise. At least, she didn’t take initiative to frech kiss me later on. And I didn’t even try to kiss her, lame passive fool that I am. But I guess that was for the best – if a girl doesn’t enjoy something, I surely won’t either.
Here is where I need to make an observation: I’m one of those guys who really likes it when a girl is enjoying herself. If she likes being tongued, I like doing it. If she doesn’t enjoy it, it gives me little pleasure other than the purely aesthetic experience of having her arse in my face. If a working girl gives me no signals what so ever about what she really does enjoy, but will fake-moan at any contact (when I touch her abdomen, for instance), I quickly get bored.
Conchetta was my first-ever Fransösich Ohne (BBBJ) experience with a working girl. I had deliberated with myself for quite some time if I should take the risk of contracting some embarrassing social disease. I’m not really scared of the “big one” because the risks are so very low with oral sex, but I am very concerned about Chlamydia, Gonorrhea, Condyloma Acculminata or some “silent” form of Condyloma which might give my wife uterine cancer. But now I threw caution to the wind and let Conchetta take me to the hilt in her throat. And it was very, very nice of course.
She really did deepthroat me all the way (a modest 16 centimeters at current weight), even gagged herself while making eye contact, used her tongue to good effect, flicking it over my glans. It was a skillfully performed BBBJ by any standard, though she ought to have used her hands to fondle my balls, perhaps licked them (they were well shaved for the occasion), used her tongue on my perineum (the area below the scrotum), and the like. She also could have made an effort to kiss my mouth, neck, chest etc. before going down. That would have made it all seem less mechanical. Had there been more warm-up and more chemistry between us, I would have considered it a top-notch BBBJ though, so don’t be too put off.
I then asked if I could DATY, which she agreed to with no sign of either enthusiasm or reluctance – only mechanically reclining and spreading her legs for me. I tried my beast todo a better job with her than she had done with me – kissing her legs and stomach before closing in on her (very nice and small) pussy. Conchetta had one of those miniature pussies which, when shaved completely as hers was, gives you a shameful sense of going down on someone in primary school. Perv that I am, I like the feeling. But with Conchetta, the experience was one of little pleasure. She fake-moaned all the way, and I could tell that she wasn’t into it. And I so do love DATY when a girl enjoys it. I consider myself rather good too.
Well, I also licked her from behind, just for the aesthetic experience. Conchetta’s little bottom is spectacular by my book. That lovely little pussy, a very tiny anus, and those small butt cheeks made of steel – couldn’t be better! 10+ ass. But remember that I like petite girls – if you are a fan of bubble butts, hers is not for you. I would have loved to lick her asshole, but she told me not to when I slid my tongue up between her cheeks from behind. Too bad.
Then it was condom on and some missionaly style sex with legs lifted high. She made the appropriate noises, but not with any real enthusiasm. Then moved to doggy style and penetrated her hard and fast for a while, before my normal problem set in: She didn’t feel right, and I started thinking about how I often become flaccid at this stage, and hence I shrank and couldn’t continue.
I masturbated behind her for a while, but it didn’t really work. By now we were about 20 minutes into the session, so I was a bit stressed to come. She had given me the impression of being a clockwatcher, despite not saying a word to that effect. Maybe it was just poor chemistry and my own stress talking.
I asked that she finish me off my mouth and hand with her deep BBBJ. She asked midway if I wanted to cum in her mouth, but I told her that I was aiming for “handentspannung”. She sucked me deep, with hard strokes but no real sucktion, and used her hand to good effect. She moved around so I could fondle her breasts, stood up kneeling beside me so that I could see her great body and those superb breasts as she whacked away, etc. All in all, she made a really good effort there at the end – at my request taking me deep in her mouth a couple of times at the very end, and then masturbating me while I shot my load.
She did let go a little too soon to start the clean-up, which I suppose I should have asked her not to do. In the end, we walked up to the safety deposit lockers and I paid her the 60 euros due. She was businesslike and a bit cool and aloof as we said goodbye – no real warmth in the goodbye peck on the cheek.
And this is what makes me feel I want to have a repeat performance with Conchetta, though I wouldn’t recommend her to a friend: I heard her remark in German to a couple of her friends by the slot machine, when she thought that I was too far away to hear or understand what she said, that I had a well-filled wallet (I did) and that I was a “kartoffel” something. That means “potato”, for those of you who don’t know. I don’t know if she meant I was passive, easy money, looked like a potato, had a limp dick, or whatever, but I could tell it was not a great compliment. Why does this make me want to session with her again? Well, because I’d like to show her that I don’t need to be passive. Basically, I got so pissed off that I would like to penetrate her anally and gag her throat like Max “hardcore” Steiner. But I suppose that will just have to remain my daydream for the next year or so. I shall come back equipped with some Muse capsules of alprostadil and fuck her brains out… :) [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alprostadil[/url]
No, I’m just kidding, of course.. Conchetta was a bit of a shark, and I have learned that I need to be more assertive and trust my instincts more. She gave a more than decent BBBJ, has a great body (9.7 out of 10), made an effort to get me off. A good performance but absolutely no good chemistry and too much fake aggressive act for me.
That was all for report no:2. I shall return shortly with my third report about the best PFP experience of my life: Aida @ Artemis.
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Charles in Berlin 3 – Aida @ FKK Artemis
this is my third and last report on the state of fkk in berlin, and i shall focus on the best pfp session of my life: aida (aa-ee-dah).
i had sessioned with conchetta and was of two minds about the experience. in the afterglow of the concluding orgasm, i could only shake my head at how easy a mark i had been. i wasn’t exactly disappointed with the session, since she had made a real effort at the end and since she had given me plenty of visual material to digest in days and years to come. but i had been week and gone with a girl with whom i felt i wouldn’t have a really good session. i decided to consider the 60 euros “learning money” (a swedish idiom i don’t know how to translate, meaning “money you spent, where the experience taught you an important lesson”). next time, i would stand my ground, i said to myself.
after a long shower, pushing the knob every fifteenth second or so, i stumbled out into the main lounge despite the tobacco smoke being a serious hazard to me. i was of course too tired to session again for a while, and found that the phrase "ich bin zu müde, aber vielleicht spaeter" (i’m too tired, but perhaps later) worked wonders most times. i saw the rod stewart lookalike german proprietor of artemis sitting at the bar in his black suit, watched a man get a bbbj in the upstairs kino, found a man lying by the pool reading a book and asked if he by any chance was “angus magee”, to which he looked frightened and shook his head in denial and said something incomprehensible in german (just because agus is a man and often relaxes by the pool with a book, doesn’t mean all men relaxing by the pool with a book are anguses…)
the black girl i had seen sitting so provovatively on a barstool was now standing in the pool room, resting her elbows on a rail, feet together, bent over by the hips and really arching her back to draw attention to her magnificent posterior. i have rarely seen a better sales pitch. i don’t even particularly like heavier girls (i guess she was about bmi 25), but her bubble butt was truly something to remember! and since i find it very erotic and exotic to have sex with a black girl, i really did feel like asking her for a session. but alas, i was too fatigued at the time. i absolutely will session with her next time though – if she is still to be found. i hope she does anal. that would be incredible!
i ended up instead taking a break on the huge sofa-bed below the central staircase. i was joined a couple of times by ladies who wanted to know how i was doing and whether i wanted some company or wanted to come to a room, of course – but nothing too insistent. i guess they really did see that i was tired. i remember a chubby bulgarian girl in particular, because she had such a lovely face and wore blue contact lenses. she crawled up to me and lay her head on my chest and started asking the usual questions about whether i was here alone, why i was in berlin, etc. her face is perhaps the prettiest i have ever seen on a girl in real life – at least so up close. too bad i can’t remember her name. we talked about the state of prostitution in sweden, bulgaria and germany, comparing notes. she found it very amusing that i considered artemis the main reason why i love berlin so much. but i digress: i would absolutely have gone to a room with her, but for the fact that i was so tired.
after resting, i went looking for ella again. i searhed her here, i searched her there, by god i searched her everywhere. but she was busy all the time! in the end i found my way to the upstairs kino again. it was empty except for an older guy reclining on a bed, with a very tall, thin girl kneeling beside him, whispering in his ear and giving him a slow sensual sales pitch. i plopped myself down on a bed right across from them and discreetly watched the tall girl’s legs and bottom. it’s not every day that you get to enjoy such a view.
as luck had it, the guy turned her down. i had hoped that they would seal the deal, and that i would get to watch a couple of minutes of bbbj there on the couch-bed, but instead the guy declined her business offer and she made as if to step out. that’s when she noticed me.
then ensued the usual verbal fencing, but with a twist: the girl presented herself as aida. number #2 on my shortlist for the evening. i told her that i had heard lots of good things about her from other guys on the internet, and she seemed very surprised at this. she spoke a bit of english – a big enough bit that we could have a conversation in about 50% german, 50% english – and i explained to her about this forum and gave her the url. perhaps she will look in on us.
insensitive fool that i am, i told her that i was actually looking for ella this evening, but that i would very much like to have a session with her later on. she countered this move with an enlightened observation: “ella isn’t here right now – i am. perhaps you would like to go with me now and find ella later”. that’s what i decided to go for.
and here is where i would like to thank angus magee for writing that “another russian, aida is very tall, slim and pleasing to look at. we had a short interaction earlier so i motioned her over and soon we were upstairs in a room. another good choice i soon realized. her bj was not quite up to ella’s but was still very, very good. she is sensuous and un-rushed and enjoys the session. she also was very cool about letting me know what was available without giving any pressure to spend more. i would 100% repeat with her.” i actually had this comment pasted to my list of girls to look for, and while i didn’t really feel that i was 100% into aida during the sales pitch, i decided to take his recommendation and just go with it. so thank you, angus. you made my night at artemis memorable!
aida: 178 cm tall (specifically asked, because i didn’t believe at first that she was shorter than i) in stockings. with high heels, she’s incredibly tall… she weighs around 60 kilos, but was recently quite a bit heavier. we discussed this after our session when we lay chatting on the bed, because she told me that she had lost about 5 kilos per month since starting to work at artemis a little over four months ago. “very tall and slim” is a fitting description. she also has very nice breasts, but i couldn’t tell you if they were small, average or large if my life depended on it.
aida comes from st. petersburg in russia and has lived in hamburg for a few years. i would guess she is around 24-25 years old, give or take a few. her body is simply spectacular. she also has a very nice and friendly smile and sparkling eyes – and her entire person says “i am comfortable with what i do, respect myself and my customers, thoroughly enjoy myself in this situation, and i feel a bit randy tonight”
we ended up in a very small room upstairs. she gave me a very nice view of her posterior as she knelt on the bead to lay down a couple of towels. then it was time to start the session – the most exciting moment of all, when you think about it. i asked her if she liked to kiss, and she said “very much”. jackpot! i stepped in closer and leaned in for a small peck on her lips, and off we went.
making out is one of my favorite pastimes and it seemed aida felt the same. she had a delightful way of frenchkissing intensely, then pulling back and tilting her head back so that i had to bend over her to make contact again. it made me crazy with lust. we felt each other up and made out for quite a while, all the time breathing heavier and smiling more and more. she broke our kiss with the compliment “you kiss very well”. “so do you,” said i, and we laughed and continued for some time before i felt i needed to go down on her. before i did so, though, i told her that we needed to prolong the session to a whole hour, because i was really having fun!
aida seemed to thoroughly enjoy our session, which really did it for me. i licked her from behind, just as i had done with conchetta a few hours earlier and with lina at la folie two days ago, but with aida it was different. she responded with genuine enthusiasm. she pushed back at me and caught her breath as i licked her asshole. i could tell she was turned on by that, and proceded to tongue her tight, clean asshole deeper than i really like to think about after. i even sucked on it while tonguing her. well what can i say – she was into it, and therefore so was i…
we proceeded to have a very extended oral session. i let her ride my face, which she seemed to like very much. first from the front, so i could fondle her breasts while looking up at her and pushing my tongue inside her ass again, then from the rear so she could go down on little charlie in the meantime.
this was all interrupted at times so we could continue to french kiss. a truly genuine gfe! but her bbbj was considerably better than any i’ve ever had from a girlfriend, so i must say it was even better than gfe :)
during our soixante-neuf, i think she probably came at least twice. it was particularly when i put my arm around her and pushed her down on my face while lashing at her clitoris and using my fingers to massage her anus (only outside) that she seemed to really enjoy herself. a while later, after more dfk, i asked if she liked to have my fingers inside her pussy, to which she, much to my surprise, gave a resounding “yes”. massaging her gräfenberg area with my fingers intensely while sucking on her clitoris threw her over the edge again.
when she climbed off, i was wet all over the face! damn that was nice!
we went at this for quite a while. she got up one time to fetch us some water to drink and to open the window, because our room had turned into a baking oven. but then we resumed and had a very memorable session. we did reverse cowgirl, then had her lying with her back on my chest so i could fondle her breasts and clitoris at the same time. that made her explode again, i think – at least she enjoyed it very much. then back to reverse cowgirl before my curse set in and i got e.d. again. but i was having too much fun to really care about that! i had anticipated it would happen, so i wasn’t too disappointed.
more dfk and fingering her clitoris (her pussy was so engorged and tumescent now that she actually had to spread her legs and look at it in the mirror!) then on to more bbbj and another 69. by this time, her pussy was soaking wet and a little salty/tangy to the taste, but i didn’t mind as she was so very fresh. this got little charlie going again in no time, but instead of trying to mount her, i asked that she make me cum with her mouth and hands. which she did very nicely, of course, though it took quite a bit of effort on her part, since i had had a session not that long ago.
after, she told me there was still plenty of time, and that we didn’t have to rush out (i love her). instead, we lay on the bed and chatted away for a while about her nutritionist who said sex was a good way to lose weight, about where she lived, where her sister lives, speed limits in various countries, etc. she smoked a cigarette (i didn’t mind at all this time!) and posed a bit for me to give me something more to remember her by. we spoke some more about this forum and how i would like to come see her next time there is a trade show in town. then it was time to go down and settle the payment.
all in all, i had the time of my life. it was the best session i’ve ever had with a working girl, even though i needed to opt for a handjob at the end. i left artemis with a big silly smile on my face and a burning desire to come back soon. i would 110% repeat with aida. wonderful gfe! thank you aida, if you should happen to read this!
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in conclusion, artemis is the best pfp venue i have ever visited. now, my experience is not all that much to brag about – i’ve been with a grand total of eight prostitutes – but i know quality when i find it! many beautiful young girls, nice facilities and good service. i will be back. there’s poison running through my veins now, and i’ve developed a habit. perhaps i will try liberty, monrouge or kamilla dee next time, but i seriously doubt it.
again, i wish to thank angus for recommending aida and iseeu for writing about the “nod and smile” method for reeling in a girl from a distance. i would also like to thank all the other posters who have contributed answers and suggestions that were good for a newbie in the fkk scene to know – none mentioned, none forgotten.
there is much more that i could write – for instance about how girls pass around word of how clients reply to their suggestions – but i have already used more words than i ought to. i shall save it for another day.
yours truly
charles browne
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Great Report CB....
...and I will post in the RoD thread for future reference.
Yes Aida is certainly a very enthusiastic provider. And it sounds as if the two of you had some chemistry which always helps.
I have had two sessions with her and both were top notch. She really seems to enjoy the sex. Now, whenever I am there she stops by and chats for a while. I enjoy also here sense of humor which I quite bawdy.
BTW-did I miss report number one? I can not seem to find it in the thread.
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Aida @ Artemis
[QUOTE=Angus Magee]...and I will post in the RoD thread for future reference.
Yes Aida is certainly a very enthusiastic provider. And it sounds as if the two of you had some chemistry which always helps.
I have had two sessions with her and both were top notch. She really seems to enjoy the sex. Now, whenever I am there she stops by and chats for a while. I enjoy also here sense of humor which I quite bawdy.
BTW-did I miss report number one? I can not seem to find it in the thread.[/QUOTE]
Thank you, Angus. I think we have double-posted in the RoD then, but mine doesn't show yet since I'm not "senior member". Also, I provided links for all three reports in the series. The one you didn't find is in the "other FKKs" thread, since it details my visit to La Folie: [post]868976[/post]
As for Aida, I almost get jealous of you when I hear you have sessioned with her twice (very strange reaction, considering her profession). I think three things made us hit it off straight away:
1) We were compatible with the kissing technique - sometimes you just aren't, and then your kisses won't work. But with Aida, it was a perfect match, and we both seemed fascinated by how good the kisses were.
2) She was very intuitive about what I seemed to like, and she adapted well and took it easy.
3) She didn't fake anything, but gave herself to me as a girlfriend would have done - honestly doing just what she liked doing.
I shall have to work on my German skills so that we can talk a bit more next time. Ich spreche mit sehr wenig Akzent, aber mein Vokabular und mein Grammatik begrenzen mir. You say she has a bawdy sense of humor, and I could detect that she is quite intelligent, but unfortunately I speak German at a level about comparable to her own English, and that limited our conversation to the basics.
Please tell her next time you meet her, that the fat guy who loved to kiss and lick her says hi and wants to meet her again, will you? :)
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]
BTW-did I miss report number one? I can not seem to find it in the thread.[/QUOTE]
The first report is in the other FKK clubs thread as it's about La Folie
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Summer visit to Artemis
Question: can anyone recommend any good (or bad) times to come visit Artemis this summer? I've heard that I don't want to come in August as a lot of girls are on vacation. Are there any other periods of time like that during the summer that I should avoid? Any messes?
Thanks!
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Hi Your Honor
I always check this link before planning a visit to Artemis:
[url]http://www.berlin.de/wirtschaft/messekalender/[/url]
[QUOTE=Judge Absalom]Question: can anyone recommend any good (or bad) times to come visit Artemis this summer? I've heard that I don't want to come in August as a lot of girls are on vacation. Are there any other periods of time like that during the summer that I should avoid? Any messes?
Thanks![/QUOTE]
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Hi Charlie
First of all, thank you for some great detailed reports from Artemis. When one doesn't have time to go to Artemis at the moment, these reports help me remembering the good times had at the club :-)
But is it a good idea to tell the girls about this site? I've seen on other similar sites how false reports are planted to promote certain girls. And if you write something negative about a girl you risk being confronted with it when visiting the club again. I know from some of the girls that they are aware of st least the german sites and know some of the guys by their "handle" (:-)). They are very wary of what is written about them.
[QUOTE=Charles Browne]This is my third and last report on the state of FKK in Berlin, and I shall focus on the best PFP session of my life: Aida (Aa-ee-dah).
... I told her that I had heard lots of good things about her from other guys on the Internet, and she seemed very surprised at this. She spoke a bit of English – a big enough bit that we could have a conversation in about 50% German, 50% English – and I explained to her about this forum and gave her the url. Perhaps she will look in on us.
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[QUOTE=DkFatBastard]
But is it a good idea to tell the girls about this site? I've seen on other similar sites how false reports are planted to promote certain girls. And if you write something negative about a girl you risk being confronted with it when visiting the club again. I know from some of the girls that they are aware of st least the german sites and know some of the guys by their "handle" (:-)). They are very wary of what is written about them.[/QUOTE]
Thanks DkF for bringing this up. I also sort of wanted to say something but did not really want to censure CB or anything like that.
Just that my feeling is to be a bit careful about bringing the site to the attention of the girls. If I get to know a girl and she seems okay then I will sometimes mention ISG but I never really push it as a place for them to go and check out what has been written I kind of feel that this is a place for guys and is better that it remain that way.
My experience in my home country with a similar site is that when a whole bunch of ladies start visiting the site things can get a bit hairy. Suddenly they are there promoting themselves and guys start to do things like offering good reviews for better or discounted service. This degrades the quality of the reviews. And things get even nastier when someone has a grudge and starts suggesting a certain girl offers bbfs or even worse carries HIV. Yes I have seen this sort of thing happen on other boards.
My feeling with Aida (the girl CB mentioned IsG to) is that she would just find it interesting but that's about it. But in general I would not mention the board (if they are really interested they will find it by themselves) to the girls.
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[QUOTE=Judge Absalom]Question: can anyone recommend any good (or bad) times to come visit Artemis this summer? I've heard that I don't want to come in August as a lot of girls are on vacation. Are there any other periods of time like that during the summer that I should avoid? Any messes?
Thanks![/QUOTE]
Yes August is a time when Berlin really does get very quiet so perhaps it is not the best time to visit. But June/July should be business more or less as usual.
That being said, a quiet Artemis is not necessarily a bad place to be. The following is a report (if I can find it) written about a visit when Artemis was very quiet. Less guys can also be a good thing.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=851912&postcount=619[/url]
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Bogota: Charged me Euro 70 for a very small room with smell of paint so strong that I had difficulty sleeping. I could hear the toilets being flushed in the adjacent rooms. Breakfast is extremely basic. Excellent rooms and breakfast spread at Casa Hotel for the same price just across the street from Bogota.
However, Bogota may have cheaper rooms without attached bathrooms similar to youth hostels but not my cup of tea.
[QUOTE=Berlin123]As a truly born and bred berlin guy, i can recommend Bogoto highly.
Especially around Kudamm, there are still so many nice old style hotels, idealy situated for mongering..so no need to spend money on souless chain hotels[/QUOTE]
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Regarding telling girls about this forum or others:
I guess it has both disadvantages and advantages. If a girl is aware that her performance at any given time might be the subject of a report, that might make her try a bit harder to fulfill her clients' needs and not give bad service to some clients who she thinks will not be making another visit soon. On the other hand, it might give her some amount of performance anxiety. Teachers rarely become better because students are allowed to grade them, by comparison. If a teacher ain't good to begin with, being reviewed isn't going to make him better.
And then there's the risk that we might eventually see false reviews and the like.
To the extent that I will ever speak about forums like this and others like it to girls, I will do it only in general terms, I promise :) It's not something I aim to do - it just happened because I told Aida I had heard lots of good things about her, and she was curious about where or from whom I had heard about her. It would have been strange to have to make up a lie.
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Thank you Angus MaGee and dkFatBastard! I really appreciate it. The messe calendar was exactly what I was looking for. One last thing, I wonder if a lot of the girls at Artemis are college girls who go to school in Berlin? If so, I wonder if a lot of them leave Berlin for the summer leading to a "changing of the guard" at Artemis? Just a thought.
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[QUOTE=Charles Browne]As for Aida, I almost get jealous of you when I hear you have sessioned with her twice (very strange reaction, considering her profession).[/Quote]
I often feel a twinge of jealousy when I read a review (or even worse, see her heading off to the rooms with someone else)of a girl with whom I have a nice connection. As far as I am concerned this is pretty normal and no big deal. It goes with the territory I guess.
[QUOTE=Charles Browne]Please tell her next time you meet her, that the fat guy who loved to kiss and lick her says hi and wants to meet her again, will you? :)[/Quote]
I most certainly will tell her Hi when I see her again. I did understand from her that she only works at Artemis about two weeks of every month, commuting from somewhere else in Germany, not sure where. But the last few times I have been she has always been there. Who knows what goes on with some of these girls...
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[QUOTE=Judge Absalom] One last thing, I wonder if a lot of the girls at Artemis are college girls who go to school in Berlin? If so, I wonder if a lot of them leave Berlin for the summer leading to a "changing of the guard" at Artemis? Just a thought.[/QUOTE]
Er...this is the fantasy. The reality is that a lot of the girls are from close by EE countries (Poland, Romania, Moldavia, etc.) and they either come here for a few weeks or months and then return to their home land or they immigrate and this is one of their more lucrative career options.
The college girl part time girl does exist but you will not run across a whole bevy of them at Artemis. I can think of really only two that I have met. I have been told on numerous occasions this story but I often find it is not entirely true. The girls are not stupid and they know that this college girl story is one that we mongers like. So they use it.
Also sometimes a girl does not quite want to admit to herself what she is doing.
But as I said in my last post to you, other than maybe avoiding August, I would not spend too much time trying to figure out "the best" time to visit. The number and quality of girls is pretty constant. There is a difference between day time/night time. Night time brings out the hotter girls-but they are maybe not the best in service, just hot.
I guess in the end it depends upon what exactly you are looking for. If you just want the hottest girl you can find then best to come on a busy weekend with a big messe in town.
If you are looking for more of a GFE with a girl that you find attractive physically and who will chat & flirt with you before dragging you to a room, you are as likely to find her there on a hot, mid August afternoon as any other time.
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[QUOTE=Charles Browne]Regarding telling girls about this forum or others:
I guess it has both disadvantages and advantages. If a girl is aware that her performance at any given time might be the subject of a report, that might make her try a bit harder to fulfill her clients' needs and not give bad service to some clients who she thinks will not be making another visit soon. On the other hand, it might give her some amount of performance anxiety. Teachers rarely become better because students are allowed to grade them, by comparison. If a teacher ain't good to begin with, being reviewed isn't going to make him better.
And then there's the risk that we might eventually see false reviews and the like.
To the extent that I will ever speak about forums like this and others like it to girls, I will do it only in general terms, I promise :) It's not something I aim to do - it just happened because I told Aida I had heard lots of good things about her, and she was curious about where or from whom I had heard about her. It would have been strange to have to make up a lie.[/QUOTE]
I am of the mind that if a girl is thinking about the possibility of a report then the service is probably "in the toilet".
A girl like your recent GFE, Aida, I felt is (aside from the cash) got in her mind nothing much except having a good time. As I said, it may interest her that we monger discuss the service we receive but I doubt that she will spend much time "trying" to give better service because of it.
She is a natural and that is why I rated her high.
But as I say, not mentioning the forum is not a hard & fastrule for me. I am simply a bit cautious about spreading the address around to the girls, that is all.
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Threesome
Hi fellows.
I will have the pleasure of attending Artemis in the end of may. I have not been there before but I have been to Palace few times. One of the things I want to do is a threesome. I think that every man have dreamt of trying a least once a threesome and I havn't done it! (yet! )
As a regular reader of this forum I have noticed that to those that have tried threesome the experiance is mixed.
So I was wondering is it worth it? Not only from economic wiew but not less plesure wise or is it something that you only do to bragg about?
And do you pay 2x60 for 30 min if you leave out lesboshow?
One more, is the majority of the girls Polish and do the normaly speak english?
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Hi Halljo
I have tried it three times at Artemis and the results was indeed mixed. I have found out that a threesome is not for me. Offcourse it 's nice but not twice as nice as being with one woman. I am however glad I tried it :-).
The price is 2*60€ if you leave out the lesbo show, but ask the girls beforehand just to be sure. Another recommendation, if you have time for it find a provider that you have some chemistry with and then go for a threesome with her and friend that she recommends. In my experience the girls going round selling threesomes are very mechanical.
[QUOTE=Halljo]Hi fellows.
I will have the pleasure of attending Artemis in the end of may. I have not been there before but I have been to Palace few times. One of the things I want to do is a threesome. I think that every man have dreamt of trying a least once a threesome and I havn't done it! (yet! )
As a regular reader of this forum I have noticed that to those that have tried threesome the experiance is mixed.
So I was wondering is it worth it? Not only from economic wiew but not less plesure wise or is it something that you only do to bragg about?
And do you pay 2x60 for 30 min if you leave out lesboshow?
One more, is the majority of the girls Polish and do the normaly speak english?[/QUOTE]
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There's one or two things to keep in mind when doing a threesome:
You should know at least one of the girls.
Let her choose the second girl. If you do, she should at least like the other girl.
Make a clear statement before you go that you do want a session for 2x60 EUR and nothing more, if they want to kiss and make out, they can, but no extra charge.
If you consider these things, a threesome can be a great experience. I had quite a few at different clubs, and they all were great.
HB
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[QUOTE=Halljo]Hi fellows.
I will have the pleasure of attending Artemis in the end of may. I have not been there before but I have been to Palace few times. One of the things I want to do is a threesome. I think that every man have dreamt of trying a least once a threesome and I havn't done it! (yet! )
As a regular reader of this forum I have noticed that to those that have tried threesome the experiance is mixed.
So I was wondering is it worth it? Not only from economic wiew but not less plesure wise or is it something that you only do to bragg about?
And do you pay 2x60 for 30 min if you leave out lesboshow?
One more, is the majority of the girls Polish and do the normaly speak english?[/QUOTE]
I would agree mostly with what has been said.
In general I personally have often been disappointed with P4P threesomes. The girls must be comfortable with each other and also actually be into it. Otherwise the mechanical aspect can ruin the whole thing. I think it important to figure out for yourself what you really want. Do you want the girls to just take care of you?(two tongues licking up and down your dick) or do you want some lesbo action?(fucking one doggy while she licks the other).
For a fully interactive threesome at Artemis it can get very expensive. Two girls for 1/2 hr. with lesbian interaction would run you 220 (60+60+50+50).
And if you came in either (or both) mouths it could cost even more.
And for me personally a half hour threesome is sort of short on time to really do it justice.
I think that there are cheaper alternatives for threesome action in Berlin. Bordellos where the extras are not quite so expensive.
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[QUOTE=Halljo]
One more, is the majority of the girls Polish and do the normaly speak english?[/QUOTE]
I would say that there is no real majority of girls from a specific country. If anything there are a lot of Bulgarians & Romanians. But then there are other countries also represented. Poland, Russia, Slovakia, Czech Republic, Germany, Brazil, Spain, Dominican Republic, Moldavia, Hungary,Thailand, Malaysia and more.
English is spoken by some of the girls and with varying degrees of skill.
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Film about Artemis
Hi guys.
I'm might be wrong but I think I never seen a link to this movie/documentary about Artemis.
[url]http://www.zoharkaniel.com/?p=Films[/url]
Click on the second picture from left a the bottom of the frame "Please choose a video".
Nothing new per se but excellent way for those who havn't been to Artemis to see how the place look inside. But sadly no girls:.<
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[QUOTE=Halljo]Hi guys.
I'm might be wrong but I think I never seen a link to this movie/documentary about Artemis.
[url]http://www.zoharkaniel.com/?p=Films[/url]
Click on the second picture from left a the bottom of the frame "Please choose a video".
Nothing new per se but excellent way for those who havn't been to Artemis to see how the place look inside. But sadly no girls:.<[/QUOTE]
Many thanks Halljo for the link, that is very interresting to know about Artemis backstage, I was in this FKK last October for 2 nights and I have spent very very good time with beautiful girls.
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Midnight Muse
landed in fra in the morning, had a full day of business stuff, then took the last flight fra- txl, which was of course delayed. dropped my luggage of at the hotel, told the driver to wait while i checked in and then drove straight over to artemis. my last visit was in september, and i came away from that somewhat disappointed at the lack of energy and morose environment. i was hoping for a better run this time.
got there just about midnight armed with some of angus’ recommendations, with one in particular for ella, who sounded like she was exactly the type that i look for. stash my cash in the cash lockers and go to take shower slippers from the rack and there’s a blonde standing just inside the entrance to the locker rooms waiting to get paid who looks exactly like the description of ella that i had in my mind from reading previous posts about her. but, i wasn’t sure so i let it ride. showered, robed up and went to reconnoiter. i made my rounds, checking out the kinos, dining area and downstairs bar, fending off numerous advances in the process. not a lot going on. there were no sp loitering near the circular stairs, and none sitting in the downstairs lounge or in the downstairs kino. only 25-30 sp in the time that i was there and maybe slightly more customers. there wasn't much of anything happening, so i watched the sexless striptease, and then i saw that same blonde from the locker room sitting by the bar. i grabbed the stool next to her, and as fate usually likes to play tricks on us, quickly verified, that the very first woman that i had seen that night at the club, except for the hot reception girl, was indeed the target of my search for the night. my muse.
[b]ella[/b] is a great find. much has been written already about her by angus and others. i can only add that she is as genuine a person as you will find working in this environment. although russian, she’s lived in germany for awhile and doesn’t have the mercenary attitude that sadly some of her fellow country women have. when she asked me to guess her nationality, i immediately said "russia" and explained that my friend, the great am, had told me about her. angus, sorry to say, that although i described you to her, i don't think that she really remembered you. later, as we were kissing goodbye after a very intense session, she remembered and said, "[i]i'll have to thank your friend in a special way the next time i see him as thanks for bringing us together[/i]". class act.
great, great session, on par with some of the best that i’ve had at bernd’s and oase. excellent oral skills, fabulous positioning of her body, with great attention to providing maximum pleasure to her customer. lots of different positions, and watching her in cowgirl was a vision for all times. at some point she had taken off the condom, and was teasing me by giving me a body to body massage and that's how i came, with her on top of me rubbing her body against mine. delightful. the time with her just flies, and we went way over the hour, cuddling and talking, and enjoying the mellow feeling that you get after an emotional release. when we got up to leave, she gave me the ultimate compliment telling me that after being with me, she was going home, since she couldn’t possibly top that session with another client that night and she preferred to leave at a high point. could have been a line, but who cares, it made me feel really good.
i should have taken her advice and left at that high point, because it was all downhill after that. that previously noted lack of energy had amplified. maybe 15 or 20 sp remained, most glumly sitting around the upstairs lounge. i saw a very nice looking woman with asian features sitting at the other side of the bar, but by the time i went around there she had been swooped up by another client. i stuck around waiting for her to finish with him, but when i finally saw her she was dressed in a sweat suit and making her way up to the top floor dormitory. i passed on some other pretty things, which i probably shouldn’t have, because when i told angus their names the next day, he was shocked that i would turn them down. they just looked beaten and had little joy in their movements.
the only signs of life came from a well-built latin looking women who was having a good time with a group of 3 so. american guys. at one point they left so i called her over.[b] juliana[/b] is from mexico, new to the business, and later admitted to me that she didn’t really like what she was doing, but needed the dough. all of the signs were pointing to a bad session, especially after 3 minutes when she asked are you going to a room with me or not? but she had a full, hot body with a luscious ass and breasts, and a meaty jlo type body. made a decision right there on the couch to go to a zimmer even though i had low expectations. self- fulfilling prophecy. in the room she pulls out a package of sanitary wipes motions to me to lie down and begins to wipe me down like i was carrying the plague. thinking about it now, she’s from mexico after all, but at the time it annoyed me, since that particular wi****wn, is common at many of the mass market pt's where the girls cannot count on their clients having showered properly, and not what we expect from a high class fkk. she started with her standard session script. i was having none of that and told her to lie down and went down on her, without wiping her i might add, although the thought did cross my mind. it helped, and she let her guard down for a little, but stopped me at about the 20 minute mark by asking if i wanted to extend the session. no way jose. so i let her follow the script, and finished promptly at the 30 minute mark, plowing in from behind with her proud butt in the air. no sooner where we done, then she pulls out some antiseptic fluid and starts wiping herself wherever she had been touched by me, then pulls out huge bottle of mouthwash and begins gargling right there in the room. the woman was a walking walgreen’s.
i stuck around for awhile after that, hoping to find a high point to close my night and erase that last impression, but in the end left, feeling like the giant germ factory that i must be. walked out just past 4 a.m., to find 30 or so taxis outside ([i]should i tell them there are only about 10 paying customers still in the club?[/i]). have to say that i was once again less than impressed by artemis. still it’s the only decent fkk game in town, and with ella plying her trade there, who is a destination unto herself, i’ve now added it to my very select list of destination clubs that warrant special trips.
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Iseeus report says what I felt already some months ago. Artemis is a part of the sex-industry, and its not always fun to feed her. I am quiete sad about that because Berlin is a nice city and I like to go there. But there are no really good places even when you are ready to spend a lot of money.
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[QUOTE=Severin Carl]Iseeus report says what I felt already some months ago. Artemis is a part of the sex-industry, and its not always fun to feed her. [/QUOTE]
I'm confused: The way I read it, Iseeu found it indeed quite pleasurable (i.e. fun) to feed Ella his schwanz...oder?
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[QUOTE=Severin Carl] Artemis is a part of the sex-industry, and its not always fun to feed her. [/QUOTE]
But it can be fun to lick her treats IMO.
With Artemis much depends upon when you go, day/night of the week, what going on in town etc.. But batting 500 on a Monday evening, arriving at 23:00, I'd say Iseeu did alright.
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The Ozzman cometh (to Berlin that is) - Part I
After a too long leave of absence I was finally back in my beloved Berlin a few weeks ago for a Thursday-Sunday stay (I'm sorry for the delayed posting, but long hours at work combined with CL semifinals and Stanley Cup playoff games on evening TV, as well as a good and long lasting weather front, hasn't made writing this report my # 1 priority).
My plan in Berlin was to spend most of my time at Artemis, but also to pay the brothel Monrouge a visit.
I arrived at Tegel Flughafen a little before 20.00, my lodging being the Hotel Ku'damm 101. Getting from the airport to the hotel was very quick and easy. I got on the X9 bus at the airport (fare is € 2.10 which includes travelling on the U- and S-Bahn as well) for the short trip to Jungfernheide S-Bahn station. Here I got on the circle line S 42 (the one running counter clockwise) for a four stop ride to the Halensee station. The stop before Halensee is the Westkreuz station, a name that I'm sure sends a rush through the stomach of anyone who has ever visited Artemis by means of public transportation. I was a little tempted to get off here, do a session at Artemis before heading for my hotel, and then come back again. However, I decided against it as it would be too much back and forth.
I got off at Halensee, which is toward the very west end of Ku'damm, 15-20 minutes after stepping out of the airport. From here it was a 5 minutes walk eastward to my hotel. When I checked in, I got the nice surprise of being upgraded to a bigger room without extra charge. The rooms at this hotel are very minimalistic (probably "modern"), but also clean and comfortable. I was lucky to get a room to the back, so it was perfectly quiet, even with my window open.
Before heading for Artemis, I needed to get something to eat, so I went down Ku'damm to find some fast food. For some reason I ended up walking all the way to the Burger King almost at the opposite end of Ku'damm. It was getting late and all this walking was costing me precious time, so after eating I got a taxi from Burger King back to the hotel to pick up my nightly "allowance". While there I brushed my teeth and had a good rinse with Listerine. I also used the opportunity to take a shower in the convenience of my own room.
Then it was time to leave for Artemis.
Hotel Ku'damm 101 is ideally located for Artemis visits, only being a 15 minute walk away (but less ideal for non-mongering activities as it is at the more secluded end of Ku'damm). Walking to Artemis, I kept repeating to myself my adaptation of The Rock's catchphrase (WWF fans only): "FI-NA-LLY THE ROCK HAS COME BACK TO AR-TE-MIS!"
I probably got to Artemis at about 22.30. Stepping through the doors to the reception area, everything - the sights (naked or towel-wrapped ladies passing by up by the deposit boxes), the sounds (showers running) and not least that particular smell (perfume mixed with something else I can't put my finger on) - was exactly as I remembered it from my numerous previous visits. This very moment, standing on the threshold of great pleasures, was something I had thought and fantasized about for a long time to get me through the endless hours of work and toil back home. I savoured this moment.
I said "Hallo" to the lady at the front desk and put € 80 on the desk straight away, with her not bothering to ask whether it was my first time there. I received my robe and locked up my valuables in my small locker, then went to change. As I had already showered, I was then ready to step into the lounge. There were two girls I was especially looking forward to seeing again; Spanish Romy and Lithuanian Celina. I did a quick tour of the lounge, Kino and dining room, but neither of the two were to be found. Actually there were only a couple of faces that I recognized from my last visit. Worse, there were not that many girls whose looks I fancied, although I admittedly tend to be quite picky.
Even though I had been very eager to get at some pussy before getting to Artemis, I now decided to bide my time, clinging to the hope that either Celina or Romy would show up. That didn't happen and eventually I decided that my first session should be with a tried and tested girl, so I went over to the bar to chat with one of the few known girls present, a girl I've done numerous sessions with.
Remy (Bulgaria)
Remy is of medium build and height with B cup breasts. She has a very cute face and sports a lower back tattoo. Her hair used to be black, which I think was it's natural colour, but now she's dyed it dirty blond/ light brown, which looks really fake. She looked much better with the black hair. Remy is probably one of the most prolific workers at Artemis and she works the floor very aggressively. It is rare that you see her relaxing in the lounge with a smoke or a drink.
That was what she was doing now, however. I approached her and we had the usual ostensible catching up on what we'd been doing since last time we saw each other and how things were going. We did this sitting in a sofa by the bar, and while talking I started feeling up Remy's breasts and stroking her thighs and, eventually, pussy. I was getting hard and Remy started lightly stroking my dick. Before long we decided it was time to go for a room, and while walking through the lounge I had to grab my dick and press it into my stomach, as not to look like a total fool with it standing at full mast out from my robe.
In the room we started with some kissing, which was basically just tongue flickering. Remy then sucked me before I started licking her. I asked if could finger her (I've done it to her many times before) and she hesitantly said yes, if I'd recently washed my hands. It was obvious that she wasn't very keen on it, being, like most working girls seemingly are, afraid of dirt and bacteria. So I told her to never mind if she didn't want to and I refrained from doing it. We then fucked in a couple of different positions. When I was doing her doggy, she suddenly said "I want you to fuck me in my ass". Not being a big anal fan, I said no. So she repeated "Come on, fuck me in my ass!" "Naaah.." "Come on, fuck me in my ass!" and so forth. Eventually, I relented, knowing fully well then and there that it probably wouldn't be worth the € 100 extra. She lubed up my cock aplenty and I then eased it slowly into her asshole. Sure, it felt tight and good, but it wasn't a € 100 worth of goodness. If I'm spending € 100 extra on a session, I'd rather do half an hour more (at Artemis that would actually be € 60) and do a CIM finish. After a while of fucking Remy in doggy anal I drained my balls inside her. She told me not to pull out yet, got a piece of paper and then grabbed my cock with this as I pulled out. I guess this was to avoid any "embarrassments" left on my dick.
I then lay back for a few minutes, being pretty exhausted. I was happy that I'd lasted a long time even though I had abstained from self gratification for quite a while beforehand, but unhappy that I'd been weak of will and accepted the offer (or demand rather) of anal sex. After a short rest it was time to leave. We went downstairs and I paid Remy her € 160.
I hate to say it as I used to like Remy, but this session was mediocre at best. She has always been very business minded, but that would manifest itself in her giving (quite) good service for repeat sessions. This has waned over the times I've seen her, until now when it has degenerated to the stage were she is very mechanical, basically a fuck machine that delivers the wares but not much more and with little passion.
After a quick shower, I did a sweep of the lounge to see if any familiar faces had appeared from a session while I was away myself. None could be found, so I relocated to the relaxation area in the basement to rest. As I had been to work before going to the airport, I was getting rather tired and much of the rest of the night is a blur. I would spend some time downstairs, then go up to check which girls were available while sitting in the bar for a few soft drinks, then go back downstairs to get away from the smoke and loud and obnoxious music of the lounge. The place was pretty busy, so the selection of girls at any given time was not too impressive.
The hours passed and I knew I needed one more fuck for the night. So it was time to make a commitment. I sat down on the sofa closest to the lounge entrance, just to the left, were I would get a good view of the girls coming back from sessions and also being close enough to quickly grab anyone I fancied (I hate it when I sit at the far side of the bar and see a girl I like walking past one the other side, and by the time I have gotten around the bar someone else has picked her up. That has happened a few time when I've spotted the super hot Celina, who often won't even make it from the showers to the lounge before being taken for a new session.) Anyhow, sitting at the opposite end of the sofa was a girl who had caught my eyes earlier and who I just couldn't make up my mind about. She had a nice body, made even more sexy by a long black pony tail down her back, though I wasn't quite sure what to think of her face.
I was glancing over at her every now and then and obviously assessing her. And it was equally obvious that she was aware of this. Then I would look nonchalantly around the rest of the surroundings to see if there were any other girls I'd rather do. Eventually I decided for my sofa companion. It felt a little awkward turning to her and introducing myself, as I had been sitting beside her for maybe 15 minutes trying to look as uninterested in her as possible, although we'd both been very much aware of each other. She told me her name was Eva and that she came from the Czech Republic. After the preliminary introductions, I jumped straight to the point and asked if she wanted to fuck. Unsurprisingly, she answered yes.
Eva (Czech Republic, pictures on the Artemis website [url]http://www.fkk-artemis.de[/url])
Eva has a lean body with B cup breasts. She has long black hair, which for the time I was at Artemis, she had tied in a pony tail. Her facial features were very Slavic and, combined with her rather dark complexion, I was surprised when she told me she was Czech. She spoke little English, but it was adequate for basic communication.
We went to the room without further ado, and IIRC there was a short wait for an available room. As it was late and I was very tired, I don't remember too much of the details of the session. She gave me a BBBJ, but I don't recall any DATY or kissing. We then fucked in the standard positions. The two things I remember from this, is that she was very active in the missionary position, really working and grinding against my cock, and raising her upper body and holding around me. Very intimate and intense! Also, when doing her doggy, her thighs and ass felt really soft and warm to brush against. The last position was the RC, were she rode my cock well and I finished inside her.
A good fuck and a fair to good session overall is how I'd sum up this one. Under the right circumstances (i.e. lack of a better alternative) I would repeat.
By now it nearing closing time (5.00) so I took a shower and walked back to my hotel. All in all it had been a little anticlimactic return to Artemis. And I'm sad to say that it would get worse the coming nights.
To be continued...
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First Time Report
Went to Artemis late March 2009 for my first visit there and 2nd visit to an FKK club (Oasis being the first).
Easily found the club via the rail system thanks to the great directions found in this thread. Ovall impression of this club is very good. Very well laid out, plenty to places to sit and relax, not too much pestering from the SP's. Arrived on a Saturday night around 8pm. Showered, put on my robe and went on a tour of the place. I would say there was about 20. 30 SP and about 20 customers. Spoke to a couple of other first timers from Norway (told them about this site also) in the sauna and we all generally agreed there wise quite a good selection.
While walking around checking out the place, I stopped and spoke with a few of the girls. I noticed that there were serveral SP that basically come in for the weekend.
Started getting cozy with a girl from Italy (I think her name was Lydia). Slim girl, natural B's, tramp stamp, cream white skin with a Cindy Crawford like mole over her lips. Before I agreed to go to a room with her, I confirmed that all the services I was looking for were available. I am a firm believer that you ALWAYS get this information first, that way you avoid a bad session. My standard questions are: Do you kiss, do you enjoy DATY and do I have to wear a condom for a BJ? A YES, YES, NO answer pretty much ensures you will have a good session. Once in the room we started with passionate DFKing that lasted the entire session, great DATY, followed by BBBJ and 69 where she had her first orgasm; then on with the cover for Cowgirl, mish and a doggy style finish. She was pushing for anal, and altough I did'nt go for it, I probably should have; she has a great ass! Cost: 60 euros.
Afterward, returned to the bar and had a drink, checked out the buffet, flirted with a couple of girls with a promise of session later on (LOL, does everybody use the same line to get right of a pushy girl? ). I went and relaxed in the porn movie room next to bar watching some of the action there when another slim Italian girl (dark tan, dark hair, very slim, natural A's, maybe mid 30's) sat next to me and we chit chatted for about 30 minutes. I was contemplating a session with her, but I like to wait at least 1. 2 hours before having another session and I was in the mood for a blond with big boobs, so again another promise for a session later on (LOL). I found a gorgeous tall German blond downstairs (Jane) but she does not kiss in her sessions, so I passed (again, the benefits of asking my three questions). By now (around 11:00pm) the place was packed! At least 2-3 guys per SP. Looked around for another blond with big boobs but was not having any luck, so I decided to look for the the dark haired girl. Found her in the kino room doing a session in one of the open cubbies with this dude that had a monster cock (yes, I was jealous). There was no way I was going to be next!
I decided to sit at one of the couches near the bar with my Norwegian boys next too a group of young Polish girls. There a cute slim blond girl (short curly blond hair, natural A's, tanned slim body) that looked interesting so I called her over for the "interview". She agreed to all my service requests so off the room we went.
The kissing was mechanical, more tongue thrusts than anything else, BBBJ was marginal (way too much teeth), got her to orgasm during DATY (I think she was surprised) then started with riding her first with mish, then cowgirl, then doggie but I was having a hard time finishing. I can see she was starting to get annoyed and kept urging me to finish. Kept pounding away for another 10. 15 minutes without crossing the finish line so I just decided to give up. I don't know if it was the condom or her annoyance but I told her it was'nt going to happen so we should end the sesssion. I think she was nervous that I was'nt going to pay her the full amount cause all of sudden she changed her tune and offered to finish me by HJ or mouth (as long as I did'nt CIM). But I was over it by then and declined. I did pay her the 60 euros.
I hung out a little longer but it was pretty crowded by now and I did not feel like swordfighting for a session.
I had a pretty time and will definitely come by again the next time I am in Berlin. I think the value you get at an FKK is very good for your money. I am looking forward to trying out some of the other ones around Germany.
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The Ozzman cometh (to Berlin that is) - Part II
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I got up the next morning a little before 12. 00. The plan for the day was to go to Monrouge for the alluring (judging by the website [url]http://www.monrouge. De[/url]) Adriana for a one hour session, then head over to the Mommsen Eck for a few beers before continuing on to Artemis to check out the day shift and staying for the turnover to the night shift.
After showering I walked over to Savignyplatz for something to eat and a beer. It was a beautiful pre summer day. In fact, it was May Day, and even though some Krawalle in Berlin were reported on the news later, Charlottenburg stayed perfectly serene.
After eating I headed for Monrouge in Leibnizstrasse 57, not too long a walk from Savignyplatz. It is situated right next door to the "fun-pub" Das Klo, which happens to be not very fun at all BTW. I rang the doorbell marked Monrouge and was buzzed in. It was up a flight of stairs where a door opened and I was greeted by Valencia. She led me through a hallway and into a bedroom where I sat on the edge of the bed. Then three or four more girls came in one by one and introduced themselves and then left again. Since I was already dead set on Adriana, I didn't pay much attention to any of them and the only one whose name I can remember apart from Valencia, is Hera. Valencia then came back into the room and asked who I would like. Adriana hadn't been one of the girls to make an introduction, so I asked about her. To my chagrin, Valencia told me that Adriana wasn't there today and would be back the coming Monday, which of course wouldn't do me any good. As none of the girls who'd introduced themselves had made much of an impression on me, I told Valencia that I was sorry, but Adriana was really the girl I'd come to see. If she wasn't there I'd take a pass. Valencia was fine by that and led me back out to the stairs, where we said an amicable goodbye, so luckily no apparent hard feelings that I hadn't been interested in any of the other girls.
I was now really disappointed, as Adriana had been one of my planned highlights of this trip. Not bothering to stop for a few beers at Mommsen Eck, I headed over to the Charlottenburg S-Bahn station for the one stop trip to Westkreuz.
I arrived at Artemis about 14. 00. The atmosphere was very relaxed, with not many punters and quite a few girls. That's what I like about Artemis in the daytime; a lot of the girls live on the top floor, so when they get up in the morning, many go down for breakfast and then hang around the lounge for the odd session that might come their way. So the selection will likely be fair to good, without you having to queue up by the staircase to grab the first and best girl to come your way (as would be the case in the hellish night to come).
Entering the lounge, I had immediately spotted Jenna from Hamburg sitting at a bar stool close to the entrance. I've done a couple of sessions with her in the past and like her. After doing a quick tour of the lounge and Kino, I approached Jenna.
Jenna (Germany, pictures on the Artemis website [url]http://www.fkk-artemis. De[/url])
As can be seen from the pictures, Jenna is blond with large breasts. She's told that her name is taken from Jenna Jameson, and there is a bit of a resemblance. Especially Jenna's breasts look a lot like the real Jenna's in her prime Wicked Pictures years, circa 1996-1997. Jenna's body is well toned and firm. I've read previously in this thread that Jenna is supposedly a shark, which is something I really have to take exception to. She can sometimes come off as little cold, but I've never had an experience with her that would classify her as a shark in any capacity. (I think Jenna is also commonly reported as "Jane" on this thread BTW.)
Jenna got us both something to drink in the bar and we sat down in the sofa just to the right when entering the lounge. She told me she was doing a two week stint before going back to Hamburg the coming Monday. I told her how lucky I was then to catch her here. As we were talking, I started feeling up Jenna's great body and breasts (not natural BTW). I then asked if we should go down to the Kino downstairs, which she agreed to. The Kino was empty and we got comfortable at the very back. Jenna started to caress and slowly suck my cock. She got on her knees in front of me and started to fuck me with her tits. This felt extremely good and after a while I told her to take it easy lest I come too soon. We then went to the room just at the back of the Kino, with just a curtain in the doorway. Here we shared some LFK (sadly no DFK) and Jenna gave some more BBBJ. I then fucked her doggy for a long while. Truly a great experience with that great ass of hers banging against my thighs and looking down on her great backside and my cock going in and out of her pussy. Every now and then I would lean forward and Jenna turn her head for some more LFK. Then we fucked mish before I had Jenna ride me RC. This gave med much the same great view that I had in the doggy position, with Jenna's ass bouncing up and down on my cock. I finished with a fantastic orgasm inside her, and she continued to ride me, making sure that every last drop of cum was being drained from my balls. I don't know how long this session lasted, but including the Kino prelude it was considerable more than 30 minutes. Still, there was no hurry to leave. I lay back to rest, just holding and lightly squeezing Jenna's tits while we talked.
We eventually left and I paid Jenna her well earned € 60. I checked my urge to hand her a tip, and Jenna didn't ask for any more than € 60 for what was surely a prolonged session.
If you don't mind large man made tits, I can highly recommend Jenna. Yes, she may seem a bit cold, at least at first, but she is still a very good fuck and one hot looking lady. I guess she epitomizes the German work ethic in general, being a little aloof, but at the same time providing very high quality work.
After a shower I did a little round of the lounge a met a new face at Artemis, Hungarian beauty Nadine. We chatted for a while before Nadine asked we if we should go to a room. I told her that I'd just been, so maybe later. I went downstairs for a sauna and some rest. After sleeping on one of the "sun beds" for maybe an hour, I felt ready for another session. When heading back to the lounge, I bumped into Nadine and another girl at the top of the stairs by the game machines. They told me outright that I should do a threesome with them. I said I wasn't interested in that, but I would like to get to know Nadine better.
We went into the lounge, got something to drink and sat down in a sofa.
Nadine (Hungary)
Nadine is has dirty blond hair and blue eyes. She has a very pretty face and a beautiful smile. Sometimes she would curl her lip in a strange way, however. I guess she thought this was supposed to make her look even more sexy, but actually it came off as more of a snarl. Very peculiar. She had a small piercing on her right cheek right above the mouth, and also a tongue piercing. She is quite tall, B cup breasts and a lean but not super toned body. When not in the room she would have her her put up in a sexy manner (I'm not sure how to describe it). In the room she would let her hair hang loose which gave her a very sultry look, especially when riding my cock, see below. Nadine is 20 years old. As I would discover, this was Nadine's first day at Artemis. She had previously been working at FKK Haus in Stuttgart, but had now relocated to Berlin. She would be staying at Artemis for two weeks before heading back home to Hungary (so by the time this report is posted, she has probably left. Fear not, however, because she told me that she would be returning to Artemis for the summer, after going home and then on a vacation.)
While chatting in the sofa, Nadine asked me what I liked to do in the room. I told her that I like to lick pussy and to kiss. Nadine also liked both of those. Nice! She the asked me if I liked to get sucked and I of course told her yes. Good, because that was Nadine's favourite thing to do. Nice again! After talking for a while and feeling up Nadine's body, we headed for an upstairs room.
In the room, I lay down and Nadine started giving me a BBBJ with lots of eye contact. She did this very aggressively, both with her mouth and using her hands as well. I told her that this wasn't how I liked it, and that she should go slow and soft, preferably without hands. She complied, but every now and then I had to remind her. We also shared some kissing, but her kissing "technique" basically consisted of sticking her tongue out and licking me around my mouth and in my face in general! Then it was time to fuck. Nadine had a good pussy and she was passionate. When riding me CG, she was bouncing up and down on my cock in one hell of a tempo. By now she had loosened up her hair and when leaning over and towards me it would hang over her face in a very sexy manner (hard to describe, you had to be there). Her breathing when riding me was heavy and very arousing, especially when she was leaning over me and breathing almost into my ear. I also fucked her doggy, then had her lay down on her stomach with her legs spread wide apart as I continued to pump away on her pussy from behind. Even though I wasn't completely won over by Nadine's BJ skills, I still wanted to finish by looking at that beautiful face sucking on my cock. Nadine was of course fine with a CIM finish so that's how it went. When I came, Nadine kept sucking my cock making sure I was well and truly drained before getting up to spit out my cum in some paper.
I'd say that Nadine seems just a tad inexperienced, or at least she needed a little bit of coaching to suck my cock to my liking. Also, her kissing "technique" was a bit strange. Still, she definitely has potential, and standout memories of Nadine are her very pretty face and her wild and passionate riding of my cock in the CG position.
After paying Nadine her € 110 I had a shower. As I had gotten to Artemis earlier than originally planned, I decided to leave now and not wait for the arrival of the night shift. I would then come back later in the evening.
I returned my key at the front desk and they made a note of my name so I would get it back upon my return later that day. I went to my hotel for a good nap. When I awoke, I walked down to the Mommsen Eck for a few Köstrizer and their XXL cheeseburger, which is one huge meal. The food and beer made me quite drowsy and I decided to do the 30 min. Walk back to Artemis, hoping that it would wake me up a little bit.
I can't remember what time I got back to Artemis, but it was probably between 23. 00 and midnight. By now the place was absolutely packed with guys, especially Italians and Russians. Someone told me that there were some kind of "Final Four" basketball tournament in town and that was why there were so many Russians present, to follow a Russian team. Don't know about the Italians though, but they always seem to be present at FKKs in large numbers, at least in my experience.
The large number of guys made the selection of girls correspondingly poor. At any given time there were probably not more than 10-15 girls present in the lounge (at times less) and it tended to be same, least attractive ones. The hallway with the stairs was especially packed, and good looking girls would be picked up as soon as they got out of the shower after sessions. The lounge was also very crowded and filled with smoke, and the music was loud and crappy (as it usually is). I can see that conditions like these can still be bearable if you're there with some company to hang out with. Being alone, however, and with most girls constantly being busy and your fellow mongers hanging out in large groups and speaking an unknown language, it gets really tiresome and somewhat lonely.
So, it was difficult to find a girl of my liking under these circumstances. I would sit in the lounge hoping that some stunner would miraculously make it through the white clad throng by the stairs and be heading my way, but I just kept being pestered by the same unattractive girls who even in these conditions were having difficulties finding enough work. When I needed a break I would get my MP3 player and lay down in a sofa downstairs and listen to my own music of choice for a while, then go upstairs again, each time hoping in vain that the crowds had abated somewhat. Finally I thought to myself "OK, I've had enough of this shit", so I decided to do the same cheap trick everyone else seemed to be doing. I placed myself in hallway with the staircase, ready to grab the first attractive girl to pass me by.
One decent looking girls who had caught my eye earlier was short blond with firm B cups. She was now the first girl to come down the stairs that I fancied, so I decided to go for her. After disappearing to the girls dressing room for a few minutes, she reappeared and was heading for the lounge. I quickly made my move and managed to grab her before anybody else. I asked her if she was free, which of course she was. We went straight upstairs, were there was a queue to get a room.
Mila (or was it Maja? Poland)
The girl (I think her name was Mila) and I sat down in a sofa together and had a chat while waiting. This wait was convenient, so at least I got to know the girl a little bit before I fucked her. Turned out Mila was Polish, as had been my guess after seeing her earlier with another known Polish girl. She has a petite and tight body, and she could definitely be characterized as a spinner. While waiting, I also got to explore her body with my hands. Really nice and firm tits!
Mila also told me that she had heard the complaint of lack of available girls from many guys this evening.
Eventually a room was available for us. The session itself was quite unremarkable. It bore all the hallmarks of being a session just to get that one last fuck out of the day. She was a nice enough girl, but there was not much passion by either of us. I received a BBBJ, but no DFK or DATY (not that I bothered to press the issue). We then fucked in different positions. By now I was having a hard time coming, so approaching the 30 min. Mark, I finished by wanking off on her tits (no surcharge).
When we were finished, Mila complained about how her knees were hurting from being on all fours the whole day, and I jokingly told her that she should get herself some knee pads. Then she continued to explain how demanding this job was on her body, as she was constantly using her mouth, hands, knees, pussy etc.
I paid Mila her € 60, took a shower and the left Artemis, happy to call it a night. I guess the time was now between 4. 00 and 5. 00.
While walking back to my hotel in the morning hours, I contemplated my day at Artemis. I was happy with two good daytime sessions, but disappointed, and even a bit disgusted, by the state of affairs during the night. An FKK as crowded, smoke filled and loud as the busiest of night clubs does not make for a good mongering experience in my book.
Third and final part coming soon (I. E. When I get the time to write it).
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The Ozzman cometh (to Berlin that is) - Part III
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So, this is my final and long overdue installment of my April/May trip to Berlin. One of the reasons it has taken so long to finish, is that I've done a trip to FFM meanwhile. Also, the Berlin trip felt kinda disappointing, so I've been somewhat lacking in motivation to write about it.
Anyway, my final day in Berlin was going to be a long one. I was flying out on Sunday morning with KLM via Schiphol, departure would be at 6.00 IIRC. This meant that it would be pointless to book a hotel room from Saturday to Sunday, as I could spend the whole night at Artemis and then go directly to Tegel. So, from checking out from Hotel Ku'damm 101 on Saturday at around 12.00, there would be no more recess (except naps downstairs in Artemis) until I was back home the next morning. When checking out, I left my luggage at the hotel for the time being then went over to Savignyplatz to get something to eat. At Savignyplatz I had a breakfast of pasta and a couple of beers. I then got on the S-Bahn for the two stop ride to Westkreuz.
I arrived at Artemis and went through the usual routine of paying, changing and showering. My plan was to hook up with Jenna again, as she had told me she would be working this day from around noon. I did a walk through of the premises but did not spot her. The mood was very quiet and relaxed, as it always seems to be at Artemis in the daytime. I think there were a bit fewer girls present than the day before. I remember having a long chat with a nice Russian blond from St. Petersburg. I was tempted, but still had my mind set for Jenna. The Russian girl eventually left and I kept waiting for Jenna to show up. As it would turn out, I would not see Jenna at all this day or night. Either she was busy with one or a few marathon sessions, or she had decided not to work after all.
As I was sitting in a sofa waiting for Jenna, I was approached by Nadine whom I had met the day before. She was eager to go again, and I had found her an overall good session. Still, I was hesitant and told her (truthfully) that I was looking for another girl. Nadine acted upset an accused me of trying to initially avoid her yesterday as well. As I had fruitlessly been waiting for Jenna for a while now, I relented and invited Nadine to join me. She was definitely the best looking girl present in Artemis at the moment.
Nadine (again)
We sat in the sofa talking and flirting for a while. I got to feel up Nadine's young body and she applied that strange "DFK face-licking technique" of hers to me. I asked if we should go downstairs in the Kino and she said yes.
In the Kino there were already a couple fucking in the very back seat. So Nadine and I got ourselves comfortable in the second row. On the screen some blond was getting sprayed in the face and on the body with man juice. Nadine commented that she was a blond too and also liked to get sprayed with cum. Nadine then started to suck my dick as I lay back and relaxed, switching my view between the porn on screen and Nadine's sucking. At the back, the other couple kept on fucking.
This was all well and good until some guy checking out the Kino decided to take a special interest in us. He walked by, then stopped right behind me and just stared at us over my right shoulder (I was sitting on the right in the coach, with Nadine to my left). I know that when going at it in the Kino, one should expect and accept the odd glance or two from the passerby or someone sitting there just watching porn. But placing yourself half a metre behind someone being blown and just stare unabashedly seems pretty damn licentious to me. Nadine also noticed the guy. She looked up at me and smilingly said "We have an audience", then continued sucking. Even though I still stayed hard, this fucking guy was proving a mood killer, so I told Nadine that we should go to a room instead. As we got up, the guy who had been watching quickly left. Nadine and I made the short relocation to the first room you come to when walking from the staircase to the downstairs Kino.
Nadine got on the bed while I stood by the bedside with her on all fours giving me a BBBJ. The curtain hadn't been pulled completely over the doorway, so there was a guy standing outside and watching. It was probably the same perv as in the Kino. I managed to ignore him and laid down in the bed for some continued sucking. Nadine and I then fucked in various positions, the highlight being her energetic riding of my cock CG, just as the day before. Also as the day before, I opted for the CIM finish. After I'd come, Nadine asked me whether I'd been drinking beer. I told her that I had, both earlier today and yesterday. She said she could tell, because me sperm tasted beer. We both had a hearty laugh about that. I paid Nadine her € 110, had a shower then went back to the lounge.
I was still hoping to meet Jenna. I had a sauna and also chatted with quite a few of the girls present, including Nadine. Nadine really is a sweet and friendly girl. She also did a fine air guitar show to a guitar solo in a Guns 'n Roses song that was playing ("November Rain" IIRC).
Eventually, I got tired of waiting for Jenna and decided to leave Artemis for a few hours. I got dressed, checked in my key at the front desk and took a train from Wetskreuz to Zoologischer Garten. From here I headed to KaDeWe to do some shopping. When finished, I walked down the Ku'damm to Adenauerplatz and on to the Mommsen Eck. Here I had a meal and my last few Köstrizers of the trip. (I can get this great beer on bottle here at home, but it just tastes so much better when on tap, with that thick, chocolate coloured foam on top.) I then walked to Hotel Ku'damm 101 to pick up my luggage. Now filled to the brim with assorted German beer and booze that I was bringing home with me, that luggage was one hell of a drag when continuing on to Artemis. I guess that's what you get when you're too cheap to take a taxi.
It must have been close to 23.00 when I got back to Artemis. It was no problem leaving my luggage in the room were they keep the robes. There was no system that I could see for keeping track of whose luggage it was (as opposed to at Palace), so I suppose you can get really unlucky and have someone else pick it up. I wouldn't worry too much over that, though.
I got back my key, got changed and had a shower. Sadly, Artemis had by now become the same hell hole that it was yesterday night. Large crowds of guys, lots of smoke and very few available girls. Furthermore, the lady at the front desk had told me that Spanish Romy was not working tonight. A Lithuanian girl had told me the night before that Lithuanian Celina was back home. So there was no hope whatsoever of finding my favourites. Had I had a hotel room to go back to, I would have probably tried to find a suitable girl as quickly as possible, fucked her, then left the place in disgust. Now, I had no option but to stick with it for the night.
The night passed on very much the same as the night before had passed on. I spent most of my time in the bar or a sofa upstairs, then went downstairs for a while when I needed a break. There still was no sight of Jenna. I rejected an advance from Remy, who probably got the picture that I wasn't too happy with our session two nights ago and she didn't approach me more than once. All in all it was difficult to find a girl to my liking.
Sometime during the night, I was approached by a rather good looking Polish girl with C cup bolt ons. I didn't get a very good vibe from her, but I was tired of waiting for my next session, so I decided to accept her advancements.
Aurelia (Poland)
It is a good thing I made a note of Aurelia's name when I got back home, lest it would have been forgotten by now like mostly everything else regarding this session. I don't remember anymore of her looks than the description above. I remember that she spoke very little English, so I had to make do with my pidgin German. I remember that there was a queue for the rooms upstairs, so we had to use one of the rooms downstairs instead (with one hell of a noisy couple next door). I also remember that I did a COB finish for a € 10 surcharge. The fact that I don't remember much of this session nearly a month afterwards, should tell us that it wasn't very special. Nor, mind you, does it stick out in my mind in a very negative way. It was just oh so insipid.
When finished with Aurelia, there was still time for some R'n'R and one more session. I went downstairs for a long, good nap. I awoke at around 3.00. It was almost empty of people downstairs. Upstairs, it was not as crowded as earlier. But as many of the guys had decided to call it a night, so had many of the girls apparently. The available selection of girls was still slim, now for the reason that many of them had finished for the evening.
While sitting in the bar, I was approached by Nadine and chatted with her for a while. She asked me how many I had fucked this night and I told her. I then asked how many she had fucked this night, and she answered "I prefer not to keep a count. But I still want to fuck some more. I think I can fuck one or two times more tonight." I may have been a charade, but she did actually give me the impression of being a really horny girl. Also, that is some impressive stamina, working from noon-ish until closing time the next morning!
In hindsight, I cannot for the life of me understand why I didn't just go for one more session with Nadine. Instead, I opted to hold tight and look for some new and untried girl. I didn't find any girl to my fancy, and as time was running out, I eventually decided to just call it a night. On my way out, I made a detour to say goodbye to Nadine, who was then sitting at the other side of the bar. I stroked her arm and told her "Auf Wiedersehen". She replied "Hope to see you again. Tschüss." And that was that.
I got changed, picked up my luggage and got a taxi to Tegel. The charge was no more than € 15. As it turned out, I was well early and the check-in counter hadn't opened yet. I started cursing myself that I hadn't gone for one more session instead of sitting here at the airport waiting. There would have been time to do one final session with Nadine.
At Schiphol my connecting flight turned out to be quite delayed. Then, as a final insult, when I collected my bag on the conveyor belt at my home airport, it transpired that the bottle of exotic Kräuternlikör that I had bought at KaDeWe had broken during handling, spilling its foul smelling contents all over my packed clothes. So, not a pleasant ending to this pretty lackluster trip.
All things considered, this trip was as mentioned a bit of a disappointment. The three main reasons for this are 1) Neither of my two favourite girls at Artemis (Romy and Celina) were present, 2) Adriana at Monrouge, who I'd been looking forward to meeting for a long time, was not present, and 3) most importantly, Artemis was so packed with guys two of the nights I visited, that it was downright unpleasant staying there because of the crowds, smoke and lack of girls. In fact, as I was sitting in the bar in the dark hours between Saturday and Sunday, looking over a sea of white robes through a veil of smoke, I had sort of a revelation. I thought to myself "What the hell are you doing here? Why aren't you back home with your friends, going out for a drink and a good time? Why don't you just get yourself a girlfriend already? What IS the fun in this? " Well, even if we disregard the mentioned following FFM trip (which was already booked at that point), it does speak volumes to the power of this addiction that I was back on the Internet within a week or so after returning from Berlin, searching for nice price airline tickets to Germany; all such doubts being a distant memory to be apathetically recalled only when writing this report.
No new Berlin trip is booked as of now, though. FFM will have priority for the time being, as I am completely lost in a particular girl there. But hopefully, I will be back in Berlin in the autumn and then be more fortunate with my timing, both with regards to which girls are present and there being no big events in town to swell the Artemis attendance to grotesque proportions.
I now that this fantastic city that is Berlin has got so very much more to offer than what I received this time around.
Ozzy
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A few reports
With all the discussion over on the General Info about being “outed” and the girls reading the forums I have decided to make this report a little more vague than usual. These are a few short reports from over past month or so.
Christine is young (21-23?) with a small tight body, dark hair and a number of tattoos adorning her body, which in the interest of her anonymity, I will not identify here. She has a very friendly demeanor and speaks good english. Once in the room she informed me that her specialty and great love is giving blow jobs. So I decided then to let her do her thing, I lay back and she got to work. The girl was not lying. I could tell that for her the bj is truly something she loves to do and that she could do it for a very long time. Mostly she understands pacing. She starts off very, very slowly and softly, gradually (oh so gradually) increasing both the pressure and the tempo. Almost from the get go I decided to let this continue for the hour. We took a short break, in which time I licked her pussy a bit but I could tell that she really was not into it to much and soon I was on my back again with my dick in her sweet soft mouth.
In the end I opted for a cim finish (a rarity for me at Artemis) and this was really the only place where she stumbled. She did not really suck & massage long enough once I had come in her mouth. This left me with that sort of uncomfortable feeling of having one “shot” left.
But over all I was very, very satisfied with Christine & her oral skills. But it was expensive as this is Artemis. 120 for the hour + 50 for cim.
Christine tells me that she does the circuit of FKK clubs and Switzerland, Netherlands.
Conchita(late 20’s, maybe early 30’s?) has been reported upon here before. From the reports I more or less had crossed her off my list. She approached me just after I had awoken from a short nap and immediately launched into her sales pitch which involves her extolling the quality of & her great passion for the blow job. I had actually heard this sales pitch before and had ended up turning her down. This time I had much the same feeling but in the end decided, WTF, it is only 60 euros. So off to the room we went. I am very happy to report that Conchita’s skill did in fact measure up to her sales pitch. Most notable, this lady really does know how to deep throat and gives this act center stage in her performance. I mean she get you really hard and then repeatedly takes the dick right down her throat and leaves it there, without a bit of choking, no gag reflex;-))
Over all the session was no where near a GFE. It was a performance. But what a performance!! I was very satisfied in the end and was sorely tempted to finish with cim but instead opted for a cob finish (no extra charge) and unloaded all over her breasts. Which BTW, are large, natural and very well cared for.
Great value at 60 euros for the half hour. I could very well repeat with Conchita. As I say, no GFE here but still a very good session from a very competent pro. I have to admire a girl who does her job well and Conchita is just that.
Katie I would place in her early to mid 20’s and comes from Hungary. She is a tall, dark haired & skinned (tanned), beauty. And she certainly does know it. I grabbed her on a very busy night nearing the end of the evening. Girls were actually in short supply this evening and there was no hope of any preliminaries. If you were not ready to head to a room, the girl would be off as there was a plentitude of punters waiting to pounce, especially with the better looking girls.
So off we went to the room, which turned out to be part room, part broom closet from the looks of it. I am sure that this room only sees action on the busiest of nights as it is small, with a tiny single bed and very few decorations.
The sex with Katie was not the best and the only thing that really saved it was her looks. She is a big (tall) girl, slim, wide hips, small-ish breasts and a wonderfully fleshy set of pussy lips. The pillowy kind that I could rummage around in all day. But as I say, the sex was quite mechanical and I had the feeling that she just wanted to get it over with asap. But old Angus was having none of that so I slowed her down and spent a good long while munching her pussy to which she responded, but not with any great enthusiasm. In the end I had her finish me with a cbj and I was more or less satisfied considering all that the session had going against it.
My feeling with Katie is that she could, on the right night with a little bit of warm up, be a very good fuck. But this was not that night. I am not sure if I would repeat but am sure I could be persuaded. Her pussy is magnificent.
Simina (early 20’s) is from Moldavia. To tell the truth I am not 100% sure of the name. There is a picture on the website and I am reasonably sure it is her though the hair color is a bit different. But this could be the lighting in the photos.
In any case I found this girl to be very visually appealing. She speaks very good english and soon we were heading to the rooms with her wide sexy bum swaying ahead of me on the stairs. Once in the room she explained prices and what she does and does not do-cim, no-anal, yes. I opted for the “ganz normal” session though I would have truly liked to poke her ass-but not 100 euros worth of want.
The sex was okay. I found her to be competent, just not very enthusiastic. Sort of a lazy fuck. Licking her pussy was a treat but her unresponsiveness left me a bit bored after a few minutes. The fucking was okay but again, not much coming back from her and soon I was bored. I was having an off night. In the end I lay back and had her finish with cbj. She did this rather well and in the end I was happy-happy ending.
This is a girl that, in the end, I was glad enough to have had the session but, unless in a very weak moment, it is highly unlikely that I would repeat.
Gabica (early-mid 20’s) is another Hungarian. There are pictures on the website and I found her to be a very cute girl with a magnificent set of natural breasts. I went to the room with her because she had a very nice manner with me in the bar. Unfortunately this did not measure up in the room. Don’t get me wrong. This girl is no shark, but her manner does change a bit once you get down to business. I got the feeling that it was very much a job for her. The bj was really not very good at all and the kisses were, well, not really kisses at all. I actually told her this (she took it well) and suggested to her that if she really does not want to kiss, perhaps she should just not kiss....
I do feel a bit bad giving the girl such negative press because I actually quite liked her. She has a very sweet personality and I think if she liked a bit more what she was doing she could be a very sweet fuck. But this monger will enjoy her banter in the bar from now on but will not be taking her to the room.
Erica (mid-late 20’s?) comes from Slovakia. I think that she has been in the business for a while and she knows her job. She also seems to have found some way to enjoy it. I met her on the couches. She has short dark hair, a bit of meat on the bones and one of those faces that makes you think-this girl likes sex. She has a lusty look to her.
When we started talking I had just 5 minutes before finished a session. I had not even showered-yikes. But as far as I was concerned I was not, most emphatically not, going to do a session with her. Just because it was too soon. Erica had other ideas. What was I thinking? She suggested that we go to the kino to “talk”. I followed her for some reason and soon I was lying with her at the back of the kino, cock out and other punters milling around trying to scope the scene.
Like putty. That is how I was in her hands, complete putty. Once the cock is out it ain’t long before it is in her mouth and I am launched upon a session about which I am very ambivalent. Not that Erica isn’t lovely, I just had extreme doubts about my ability to even maintain an erection so soon after another session.
But I had not factored in my partner. Erica seemed to take the whole situation as a personal challenge and, wonders, little A was soon acting as if he had not seen any action in a month. Fully erect he was happy with the wet, deep, drolly, sloppy bj he was receiving. And Erica was very responsive when I had her turn around into 69 and gave her pussy a deep licking as well.
But finishing was another matter. This was not to be so easy. The girl worked, and worked, and worked, and worked some more. We got close but I was ready to give up. Erica was not. As I say, it seemed to challenge her. And finally with a combination of hand, tongue, between the breast action and some seriously dirty talk (which she seems to like and is good at-her english is excellent) I unloaded on her breasts and sank back into the pillows. Ready to hit the showers and then the SBahn.
Erica delivers. For me it was a bit of a shame that I did not run into her earlier in the evening. But then I made a discovery and this can no be dismissed. Repeat? Most def!
I have to say that I will be looking for this lady next time I go to Artemis and will take her for an hour session in a room. Erica gets Angus’ top rating for combination GFE and PSE.
That’s all for now.
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First time report - Part I.
apologies for my broken english but it isn’t my native language.
i have not much experience in fkk but have been twice to palace in frankfurt and so when i could combine work and pleasure in berlin i knew exactly where i would spend the evenings.
landed at tegel thursday the 28th of may, around 20.00, hurried out, jumped aboard the fly bus (txl) and out at alexanderplatz. checked in at hotel agon am alexanderplatz berlin. shitty hotel (ok breakfast) and not recommended. walked 10 min or so to bahnhof and took the s75 to westkrauz. thanks to excellent information on these pages i had no trouble finding artemis.
arrived at 22.00, went thru the formalities of paying, changing and showering. my plan was simple, to walk around and observe and keep calm. not complicated but more complicated to execute.
if i would describe heaven it would be similar to a fkk. full house of beautiful, young naked women wanting to fuck you and you don´t have to marry them!
in my opinion the selection was weary good and similar or better than palace or maybe i was hornier. lots of blonde which i prefer but my only disappointment was that few black and asian girls where present but one of the goals that i had set me was to sample one or both types. but anyway i was happy and after i had walked around the premises i sat down at the bar in the upstairs lounge and had a glass of coke. few girls approached my but as always if you smile and politely excuse you then it´s not a problem.
boy do i love this, sit and watch beautiful naked girls walk by and you know by literally snapping your finger they will in few minutes be sucking your cock ! beats real life any day.
after half an hour i walked down to the kino, checked first on the kino upstairs and there was only one couple cuddling. i could not in the time i was in artemis see that it was used much, which i find strange because it is much nicer than the kino downstairs and should be fine place to start before going to the rooms.
in the kino i sat down at the back row and waited. by know i was so horny that my plan to select carefully was long forgotten and my only thought was to get a blowjob and fuck.
in walked sissy (susie ?, names is not my strong side), bulgarian, 23-25 years old and have worked in artemis for three years. cute, medium height with little broad hips, medium size breasts, brunette, short hair with two “pigtails”, like pippi langstrump for those who are familiar whit that character, slutty look and red fishnet stocking.
i was sold and smiled to her. she sat down and we went thru the formalities (she talked a little english), no cim which was ok with me. she started on a excellent bbbj (asked if a wished for cob) spit on the cock and had a pirrcering in the tounge and as i later found out in the pussy. evreything a man can wish for. after few minutes i said the magic word “zimmer” and we found one by the gym.
there the bbbj continued, she on all four on the bed and i standing and at one point i was facefucking here. then on with the rubber and doggy and it was good. the only complaint that she was maybe little to much “porn like - come on baby, fuck my” and so on. as strange as it may sound it was i little turn off. then it was missionary and as it was my first fuck i didn´t last to long and came in a few minuets.
but job done, one down and hopefully more to come. not gfe but i wasn´t looking for that in this session. would recommend but not maybe repeat, may sound like contradiction but there you go. payed 60 euros and went straight down again to the wellness area. spent some time in the biosauna, showered and decided to relax for a time in a bench at the pool. was tired after flying and early wake up to catch a flight to berlin.
had beforehand noticed a good looking blond with perfect body and that she hade a nice aura about here. something how she smiled and acted. but as i was recapturing from my session with sissy i didn´t give her much thought. i had been relaxing for maybe 30 minutes and was lying with my eyes closed when a girl sat beside my and there was the blond.
my first thought was to smile and excuse my but something about her struck a chord in me and i asked her about name and country. and when she said ella from russia a knew that this was a opportunity i could not afford to miss. was little worried about performing but counted on the kamagra that i took prior to entering artemis. not that it is a problem getting my best mate up but when you are coming many times in a few hours it works a insurance.
we sat at the downstair bar for few minutes and hade a good talk. she talks good english and is a nice girl to be around and seems to genially like this job. i´m not that fool of thinking that it´s every girls dreams to work in a fkk but it´s like in every profession some are better than others and she one of them.
then up to the rooms and luckily we had to wait so there was more talking and cuddling. in the room there was no up selling, straight to light dfk and stroking, she sucked on my nibbles which i usually don’t like much but did it in way that was extra sexy and arousing. then bbbj(she also asked if i wanted cob) and my god how good it was. at one point it was hand free and she working the cock up and down while looking at me, perfect. wet and sloppy and seeing my cock in and out of the mouth of this beautiful lady is sight to remember . then rubber and she was so nice to mention that my dick was big (and i guess it is above average) and called my bigboy (anyway easier than my real life name). i know that´s is every mans wish that the lady your are entertaining make remarks like that and naturally took it with a pinch of salt but the way she said it and acted was fun and added the atmosphere.
started with a slow cg so i could feel and stroke her magnificent body. then it was time to speed things up and she changed to rcg, slowly first then the tempo got faster and when a urged her she changed the position (didn´t rest on the knees)and pumped vigorously. the sound when she slammed the ass on my, lovely ! the outcome could only be one. i came big time.
definitely the second best sex i have had with a sp. still not better than one girl a had in copenhagen 2005 which i later found out that have done a few porno movies and thanks to piratebay and puretna i managed to downloaded them and have to admit that i have wanked a few times watching them but that’s another story.
afterwards we chatted for few minutes. i asked her if she would be working tomorrow. she said yes and i knew then i would repeat if possible. paid 60 euros and i was on the brink of tipping but resisted. at that time i decided to go back to the hotel. knew i would be hard pressed to find a better girl and besides i was tired and had a meeting before lunch the day after. took a taxi back and slept well and satisfied with the experience.
to sum up the evening it seemed rather quiet and relaxed and the girl/men ratio ok and the girls no to pushy. i don´t find it annoying that they approach you, besides it´s their job and in the case of ella it was a blessing.
my only complaint is the smoking in the upstairs lounge but that’s something you have to live with. the place in whole is nice and imho the selection of girls was good and i wish i had the money and stamina because there was a least twenty or more girls that i could have fucked. if i was regular i might see it otherwise but when you only have the opportunity once every two years it is great fun and highly recommended.
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[QUOTE=Ozzy Ozzman](continued)
So, this is my final and long overdue installment of my April/May trip to Berlin. One of the reasons it has taken so long to finish, is that I've done a trip to FFM meanwhile. Also, the Berlin trip felt kinda disappointing, so I've been somewhat lacking in motivation to write about it.
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Thanks for the report. Somehow I missed it when posted or I myself would have posted it to the RoD thread, which is where I eventually found it.
I was also at Artemis on the Saturday night of the Basketball game. The worst night I have ever experienced. If that had been my first visit to Artemis I never would have returned. I can remember being in the bar at about midnight and there was not a girl to be found of any age, size or description-that is except the bar ladies. Just a sea of white robes milling around wondering where the pussy was.
I have though since returned and Artemis has been back to it's old self.
No sign though of Romy:-((
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]With all the discussion over on the General Info about being “outed” and the girls reading the forums I have decided to make this report a little more vague than usual. These are a few short reports from over past month or so.[/quote]I nominate this epic to clearly go to the reports of distinction - very fine.
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First time report. Part II.
After going about my business on Friday I checked in at Artemis around 19:30. Showered and headed straight to dinner. The food was in eatable but who are we kidding, we aren’t there for the food.
Afterwards I went straight down and made appointment with the massage guys, tired after working and walking all day. Then I planted my self down at upstair bar and observed. The atmosphere was relaxed and the girl/men ratio was properly around 50/50 and the selection IMHO was great. I once read in this forum that it was better to do the approaching your self instead of being approached. Bearing that in mind I sat and tried to figure out which girl would suit my taste in appearance and if she looked like to be fun with. I have in my mongering years fond out that girls who smile and laugh usually make the best chemistry and are better SP.
After a half an hour or so I was convinced that I had found suitable target. Beautiful blond girl with small breast (I'm not large breast guy) who was joking with other girls and seemed genially nice. I made my move and asked her to sit down with me in one of the sofas. She was Marcella from Poland 23 years old. Unfortunally her English was nothing to write home about and on top of that she appeared to be little ignorant so conversation was hard. And here is my dilema. If I approach a girl and after an internal talking find that she is not what I'm looking for then I find it harder to back out. I'm well aware that I not obliged to go to room but maybe I'm to soft. In my case anyway I find it easier to back out if you don't make the first move. So anyway we tried to talk (or at least I tried) and after I while we headed upstairs.
There we started with some cuddling, no DFK, then BBBJ, she said no CIM. Nice BBBJ but lacking in intensity. Then on with the rubber and we started CG. And there she finally started to show some talent. She didn't rest on her knee, but on the sole of the feet still with her red shoes on and pumped up and down and slamming her ass on me. One of the most porn like experience ever but sadly it didn't last to long because she sadly insisted on changing positions. Then to doggy which was good in front of mirror and seeing her on all fours while poking my cock in and out of her pussy was fabulous and in that position I finished. Paid the 60 Euros, would properly not repeat but for those who speak german or even better Polish she is properly a good choice because she is a beautiful girl whit killer body.
Headed downstairs and relaxed in the Bio-Sauna and then a short nab on the bench before my massage. Opted for 40 min and it was fine and afterwards I felt recharged. Before the sauna I saw Ella talking with some lucky customer. Sadly I never saw her again that night but I was more than ready to have another session with her and properly would have gone for an hour.
After showering I sat my down on the sofas on the upper level at the lounge and enjoyed the view and was pondering my next move. It was slowly getting more crowded but the selection was still good and it was a buyers market. I was approached once or twice but it seems to me that if you are sitting at the upper level it is some kind of sign that you are resting.
After a good time I was still undecided which girl would be next, so many girls so little time. Then comes along Leila from Slovakia and asked if she might join me. She says that she is 32 years old but looking at her body she could pass as a 22 years old. Not the most beautiful girl in Artemis, not a head spinner or glamour’s but she has a friendly face. She talked ok english and after the first minute I knew that I had hit the jackpot. We had good time in the sofa before heading upstairs.
Started with DFK (she is a nonsmoker like I which was a plus) and then to BBBJ. I like to watch when the girls suck my cock so but her hair was in the way. When I tried to push her hair aside she stopped and pulled a hair band out of her purse and took all her hair in to a ponytail so it wouldn't obscure the view. Nice gesture. Then the BBBJ continued. On with the rubber and long slow CG. Changed to missionary and it was great, not very intense but more GFE like. Then I pulled out and asked her to finish me with a HJ. She was more than willing to do that and did it brilliantly, one hand stroking me cock while massaging my balls and scrotum with the other. One of the best hand jobs I have had. After I came she was in no hurry fondling with the cock and making remarks on how little the cum there was. I'm obviously no Peter North! Then we talked for a short time. One of the most GFE like service I have ever had and I gladly paid the 60 Euros. Highly recommended and if I ever meet her again I would go for a least one hour.
So the bottom line is, look is not always alfa and omega but I freely admit that some times optifuck is what I want and then I go for it. And that's is in my opinion the beauty of FKK. You have choices and if you make mistakes or not lucky whit the girl you choose you can always try again as long stamina and money allow.
Back to the Bio-Sauna I went (yes I like sauna) and then sat down at the downstairs bar. I think it is a shame how little that lounge is used. In my opinion it is a better place to enjoy conversation with a girl, no smoking, better lighting, less music (boy I getting old! ) but during my two visit to Artemis it was usually empty or at best only one or two guys there resting and only a few girls come there. I guess it is because it is not a good place to pick up customers so they won't spend valuable time going there.
I headed back up and had decided to try to find a black girl and then call it a day. I sat down in a sofa but now it was obvious that the men outnumbered the girls and you where pretty much left alone. After an half an hour or so I saw again one black girl that I had noticed before. Very sexy and nice curves and ass. Looked sexy, properly Brazilian. I decided to go for her but there my luck ran out. She was snapped before my eyes and vanished up stairs with some bloke. Argh.
I was devastated and thought about leaving but decided to hang around. Then came a long a black haired young girl which looked sexy and joyful. I was not going to loose this one so I joined her at the bar. Her name was Emma from Turkey, forgot to ask her about the age but my guess would be 22-25 years. Said she was from Dusseldorf where she sometimes works as an Escort. After a short conversation I should have seen the warning signs but sometimes we man think with something else than the brain. She had good body and as always small but nice breast with big nipples and I think that did it. Talked little english but enough to keep conversation going. I had before hand decided to get only a BBBJ and HJ.
Up we went and in the room she offered everything even anal but I declined and that was no problem with her. Her BBBJ is nothing to remember. Too little blowjob and to much hand job. After a while I asked her to finish me with a hand job. Have to admit it was bad, too much force and almost painful. By now I was so frustered with my choice that I only concentrated on finishing and finally I came. When she felt I was coming she leaned way back to make sure that no cum would land on her witch was little annoying. I have no problem and understand that the girl don't want to have guys coming allover them or in the face if you haven’t asked for that service but in her case she leaned as far away as possible and wanked me with her hand outstretched. After she went almost cold and only thing she wanted to talk about was her dislike for Italian men. Not a subject that interested my even though I dislike the way Italians play football. Should have skipped cumming and find the black girl or even better Ella. Paid her the 60 Euros, can't recommend and would definitely not repeat.
After that I got dressed and headed back to my Hotel in the S-bahn. As I was leaving around 00: 30 there where big flocks of men checking in so I was more than happy to go.
If I try to summarize my feeling and experience I find Artemis a good place to get sex, nice selection of girls and good facilities. But I have mixed feeling about approaching the girls, I did it twice and the service was ok and substandard. Three times as was picked up, twice the service was great and once ok. Maybe this statistic is not a base for any big conclusions but I think the next time I will stick to the latter one.
My only reserve is me handicap not to speak more than 20-30 or so words in German. I know I'm not there to have very intellectual conversation about the credit crunch or latest development in Irak but my experience is that you usually get better service if you can talk and flirt for a small time before sex and the better you understand each other the better service you get. Far too many girls in Artemis don't speak any or very little english or should I rather say, I don't speak any German. I'm convinced that my experience would be even better if I could speak more German so know I will make it my priority to learn some basic skill in German. But I will gladly go back to Artemis even whiteout learning more German and hopefully I will sometime.
And again thanks to all you that have contributed to this forum which is helpful for first time goers and in my case I would properly missed out on Ella from Russia if I hadn't read so glowing reports of her in this forum.
At last I want to ask you guys, is the Partytreff scene something that I should try or should I stick to FKK. Are the standard of the girls as good as in Artemis and Palace? And if yes which Partytreff would you recommend.
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How about getting there at opening time?
Cudos to everyone who posts.
I am going to Berlin in the end of June and I am not a big fan of staying up in the night with my ears full of techno music. I am also not very fond of drunk people.
So I want to get to Artemis early in the day and work out and at my leisure, as my endorphines are rushing through my body after my work out, pick a nice woman. I would imagine that the ladies who get there early in the day might be a bit different mentally than those who like to be there in the evening/night. I am imagining different in a positive way. Also, I would imagine that they have better time then, so are more likely to spend time talking and not rushing to seal the deal.
Any comments?
Best wishes
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[QUOTE=Skogskatt]Cudos to everyone who posts.
I am going to Berlin in the end of June and I am not a big fan of staying up in the night with my ears full of techno music. I am also not very fond of drunk people.
So I want to get to Artemis early in the day and work out and at my leisure, as my endorphines are rushing through my body after my work out, pick a nice woman. I would imagine that the ladies who get there early in the day might be a bit different mentally than those who like to be there in the evening/night. I am imagining different in a positive way. Also, I would imagine that they have better time then, so are more likely to spend time talking and not rushing to seal the deal.
Any comments?
Best wishes[/QUOTE]It can be quite quiet early on, but why not? Fewer girls, few men, no waits, can be relaxing. Certainly no alcohol issues.
On a week day there should be twenty or so girls during the afternoon, at the weekend I don't know. As far as attitude goes, don't think there's much difference. Keep your wits about you and check on services (incl. kissing and BBBJ) before you commit. You should be fine.
Ella usually does early shift.... See Iseeu's report recently.
Have fun, and report please.
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Thank you for the reply
[QUOTE=Toscana]It can be quite quiet early on, but why not? Fewer girls, few men, no waits, can be relaxing. Certainly no alcohol issues.
On a week day there should be twenty or so girls during the afternoon, at the weekend I don't know. As far as attitude goes, don't think there's much difference. Keep your wits about you and check on services (incl. kissing and BBBJ) before you commit. You should be fine.
Ella usually does early shift.... See Iseeu's report recently.
Have fun, and report please.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the swift reply. I am going to go there around 12 for a relaxing couple of hours. Will be interesting to see what kind of women are there then, maybe health conscious ones who don't like to stay up in the night
Anyways, thank you for suggesting that I find out what they offer. I have been thinking about that, and I think I am going to opt for condom and a hand job, I don't need to be sucked while I have a condom on, and I don't want to have a BBBJ, because the last time I saw a working girl I think I got molloscum, although this might have been through my work. Anyways, had I not found a remedy for molloscum online, I think I would still have those annoying little things (see the std section).
As for kissing, I am not sure. It is very tempting, since kissing is more intimate and pleasurable than many other things, but I think I will try to be content with her warm body.
In any event, I will post nice report when I get home.
One question. How is the food there? Do they have oatmeal for breakfast, or is it traditional continental junk food?
Best wishes
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[QUOTE=Halljo]At last I want to ask you guys, is the Partytreff scene something that I should try or should I stick to FKK. Are the standard of the girls as good as in Artemis and Palace? And if yes which Partytreff would you recommend.
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I am quite confident in saying that the general standard of beauty in Partytreff girls would NOT stack up very well with the same average standard at the big FKKs. This should be expected. One does not wait for the same quality of food at an all-you-can-eat buffet in Vegas as you would find in a 3-star Michelen kitchen, right?
O
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FKK vs Studio
I am arriving to Berlin at the end of June too (maybe the same conference as Sko.
I would like to know what is the quality of the studios/massage parlors/private girls i.e. brothels in Berlin vs an FKK like Artemis?
In such a place you get a session for 60-80 EU for example:
[url]http://www.royalgirl.de/[/url]
Is Artemis worth the 80 Eu entrance fee?
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Depends
[QUOTE=Joe Bond]I am arriving to Berlin at the end of June too (maybe the same conference as Sko.
I would like to know what is the quality of the studios/massage parlors/private girls i.e. brothels in Berlin vs an FKK like Artemis?
In such a place you get a session for 60-80 EU for example:
[url]http://www.royalgirl.de/[/url]
Is Artemis worth the 80 Eu entrance fee?[/QUOTE]
Is it worth it? It depends upon what you are looking for.
Certainly the quality of girls is as good at the better Berlin bordellos-Royal, KD, Liberty to name some. But going to an FKK is a different experience than a bordello. At an FKK you have the facilities to consider-sauna, bar, dining etc.. And you have the opportunity to meet & talk to the girls before heading off to a room. So you have the chance to determine if there may be a bit of chemistry between you. With a bordello you have to make your choice and then hope for the best.
It took me a long, long time to get past the 80 euro (actually it was 70 at the time) fee. I could not see the sense in paying what is, as you mention, the cost of a 1/2 hr. session just to get in the door.
The way I see it now is that I pay the 80 euros for access to the facilities and the girls. When I visit I generally stay 6-8 hours and have at least two sessions. And I try to avoid the extras which are expensive-though I sometimes succumb to a cim. So the whole 6-8 hrs. will cost me between 200-250. Compare that to 160 for the hour at a good bordello and it starts to feel less outrageous.
So I would say that if you want to spend a long time at the FKK relaxing, snoozing on the comfortable couches and having a session when you want then it is worth it.
If all you want is a a 1/2 hour or an hour with a hot girl who you may or may not have chemistry with then head to the bordello.
And I would recommend spending some time reading the reports in the Berlin thread and this thread to ge an idea of what is available at both.
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Exceptions to the rule
[QUOTE=Ortos]I am quite confident in saying that the general standard of beauty in Partytreff girls would NOT stack up very well with the same average standard at the big FKKs. This should be expected. One does not wait for the same quality of food at an all-you-can-eat buffet in Vegas as you would find in a 3-star Michelen kitchen, right?
O[/QUOTE]
Hey O,
As a fan of both genres, in general I agree with you, but as always there are exceptions to the rule.
Visited Pussy Club Wuppertal yesterday together with our PT expert Wan King and a newer member, and of the 17 women there, 6-7 of them would fit right into some of the finer FKK clubs in terms of looks and with their skill sets would probably do rather well. I was very pleasantly surprised since the overall looks quality of PT women over the last couple of years has deteriorated if that was possible, so this was a very refreshing change for the better.
Have to say that there are some gems in other clubs, but you need to sift through some very unattratctive sludge to find them, since as you say the general standard of beauty just doesn't stack up.
Need to keep a closer eye on the Pussy Club chain, now with 4 PT's around Germany. I spoke yesterday with one of the women there who works with the management in helping set up their clubs. Their strategy is to bring FKK club standards to the PT scene in terms of facility and SP. Their Wuppertal facility is very nicely done; Nice furnishings. classy atmosphere, constantly being cleaned, hands-on management, nice sauna and relaxation area, in-house masseuse, nice size and well- fitted rooms, and there's even a choice of robe or towel when you come in. Everything except the food selection (at least in Vegas you'd find something to eat at the buffet and they replenish the serving trays when they're emptied) would stack up very nicely against some of the better known FKK's, including my own club of choice.
Will be interesting to observe over time, if they can stick to their philosophy and maintain these standards. I was at their Berlin club a couple of months ago and came away very unsatisfied with the ambience and facility. Just hope that that's another exception to a rule...
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[QUOTE=Iseeu]Hey O,
As a fan of both genres, in general I agree with you, but as always there are exceptions to the rule.
Visited Pussy Club Wuppertal yesterday together with our PT expert Wan King and a newer member, and of the 17 women there, 6-7 of them would fit right into some of the finer FKK clubs in terms of looks and with their skill sets would probably do rather well. I was very pleasantly surprised since the overall looks quality of PT women over the last couple of years has deteriorated if that was possible, so this was a very refreshing change for the better.
Have to say that there are some gems in other clubs, but you need to sift through some very unattratctive sludge to find them, since as you say the general standard of beauty just doesn't stack up.
Need to keep a closer eye on the Pussy Club chain, now with 4 PT's around Germany...[/QUOTE]
Thanks for that additional info, clearly gathered in a "hands on" fashion...or in WK's case, gathered in a "tounge-in-ass" manner, I imagine!
This is a very interesting development, this Pussy Club in Wuppertal. And of course you are more than correct to point out that even across the board in the PT club world, one can always find gems both in terms of looks and performance. The question is: does on really want to sift through the shit, etc.?
But with the possibility that clubs like the one in Wuppertal you mention bridging the gap between FKKs and PTs, we may have to re-write the comparison text describing the differences between the two...
Ortos
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Artemis In The News
An article that mentions Artemis (with some photos).
About the state of the market in general:
[url]http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jGUxmkIXxddwuLJKc4mmTT6tMdugD98SH9500[/url]
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Slow night at Artemis
Spent an evening at Artemis last week and compared to previous visits I found the selection more limited and the whole experience somewhat less satisfying though I still did sample four of the women who were there. I went on a Thursday night and I have usually been on Fridays previously and this may explain something.
I was attacked by a bunch of Romanian girls soon after entering the lounge and especially one duo who looked like they pretty much only worked as a pair. Neither of the two were especially attractive and I did not like their hard sell approach.
Eventually I decided to go with Sasha, also a Romanian who was not especially pretty (6) but seemed to have better chemistry and agreed to DFK and said she was especially good at fellatio. She was attentive in a professional way but gave a good BJ and was willing to try various positions to get me off. Not memorable but not a bad start to the evening.
Off to the sauna and steam to clean off and shower and back to the lounge. I was approached by a tall Russian woman from Siberia who I found quite enticing but I did not want to go again so soon and told her I would look for in 15 minutes. An dark haired Persian woman (Michelle?) was waiting close by and pounced on me the second the Russian walked away. She seemed to really want to go with me and we chatted clumsily for awhile as she did not speak great English and I did not speak great German or Persian. She was touching me,kissing me and caressing all the while we were talking and seemed to be in no hurry to go up to a room. Finally we went up and she was into very slow, languorous kissing and caressing. Her BJ technique was wet and sensual but I prefer strong suction and she moaned loudly when I went down on her. We started off in CG and soon were in pounding away in mish and some kind of sideways position. She was trying really hard to keep GFE vibe through all this but I was in a pound em and cum mode so it was kind of wasted on me. She seemed disappointed that I did not want to prolong and slow down our encounter and I came during a rapid rabbit hump motion while she had her arms and legs wrapped around me.
Back to the sauna and pool and I found that the jacuzzi can be quite pleasurable. Anyway, decided to just relax for a bit and sat in Kino and watched a guy really do this girl for everybody's viewing pleasure.
After a short nap in the smokeless downstairs room went up to look for my next friend. Too bad that more girls did not hang around downstairs as, the air is much cleaner and it is much quieter and easier to get to know a girl before going off to the room.
I saw this Czech girl with full lips and a great smile, a little bit heavier, at the bar who seemed to be quite popular. her smile really seemed to be genuine and she had a great attitude. I asked if she would lie with me on the couch for awhile. She said her name was Ludzig or something like that and she cuddled with me offering me easy access to her soft parts and occasionally touching me along my thigh and dick in a delicate way. She seemed to be in no hurry to go up and seemed content to be cuddling. After awhile she had me hot and bothered and off we went to the room. She was the best session of the night. She told me she had not cum that night so I offered to DATY her to an orgasm. She really got into it and there was a lot of kissing and sucking along the way and it was pretty clear that she came as she was too sensitive for a while after that to be touched there. She then gave me the most amazing blow job - great suction and she really knew what to do with the balls and surrounding area to make it extra special. After awhile I told her to climb on and again we started in CG. She was really skilled in in her pussy muscles and I could feel her coaxing me as she slid back and forth. I rolled her over and wanted to be on top as she was really soft and comfortable and I really liked the way her soft and real breasts squished against my chest as I slid in and out of her. I did not last long as she had me on the verge of coming with her BJ. Great session and I recommend her if you like bigger women. I paid her 60 even though we had been together pretty close to an hour - she seemed happy and and felt that her orgasm time did not count.
I ended the evening with a German girl called Jane - tall and skinny with blonde hair. IN the Kino where we gave the old guys a late night live show - she was all business and and while she got me hard and was competent with her blow job - it felt kind of mechanical and I just wanted to cum and be over with it. So after a while I told her to climb on and finished quickly in CG as I was not into it. Would not recommend her.
I guess not bad for an evening but I have had much more fun at Artemis and except for the Czech girl I would not repeat. Usually there are at least 10 girls I would really like to be with but on this night there were barely five and really only 3 that I really wanted to be with. Also too many girls who just come up to you and say "lets go room ".
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Continuing report after Oase and GoldenTime
So continuing my report, after visiting Moase and GT, I traveled to Berlin to go to Artemis. Love Berlin. Such a great city. Artemis is just the icing on the cake. The first thing to report is the increase in entry fee to 80 euros since my visit last summer. I found this surprising due to the economy. I guess they feel that those who will pay 70, will also pay 80 without affecting the total numbers.
Anyway, as previously reported, I was a little "damaged" due to too much sex at GT (I guess that would classified as "an FKK injury") so I knew that I would only be able to see 1 girl. After eating and working out I was frustrated that I couldn't even find 1 girl that I liked! Luckily, after a few hours I was able to find 1 such girl who I loved. Her name is Sarai (? ) and she is from Germany. Skinny, young, beautiful, model-type about 23 years old. Dark tan, straight shoulder-length dark hair and bright green eyes. She spoke great English and we had a good conversation. In the room, great DFK (YMMV), BBBJ, and sex in whatever positions I wanted. No anal but very friendly spirited service. She also recently got implants which I actually thought were real until she told me. I guess she was totally flat before. I give her Face: 9/Body: 10/Service: 9/Attitude: 9. She was so great that I came back 2 nights later and repeated with her an hour and a half. While I was leaving that second night I was happy to see some other hot girls there which restored my faith in Artemis for a return visit.
As an observation for those who care, I noticed that Artemis had many more caucasian blondes (which I like) working there than did Oase and GT (more dark-haired girls). And I don't mean Romanians with dyed blond hair but more German/Dutch/Scandinavian looking.
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Good trip to Artemis
Spent last weekend in Berlin. And was able to fit in some sightseeing in addition to my trip to Artemis.
Followed the directions in this thread using the S bahn – and they were perfect. 15 minutes from downtown to the valuables locker. Not bad! Anyway, arrived around 9 PM on Saturday. Put my valuables away – took a quick shower (very short shower cycle – even more annoying than Oase! ). Took a quick run through the club – and it was obvious, most of the action is around the bar (or the electronic maj jong machines! )- and that the guys outnumbered the girls – AND that there was a 10-15 minute wait for rooms. Should have realized that I was in for a tough night.
Spent the first 30 minutes scoping out the talent – and I was a little disappointed with the quality. Of course, YMMV, we all have our personal preferences and it was busy, so this is by no means a slam on Artemis. Approached by a girl from Brazil, from India – neither of interest – but interesting international feel. The facilities are very impressive. The bar area is large – with lots of places to get to know someone. The two kinos are good (rarely saw anyone in the downstairs kino – surprising.). Same with the downstairs bar – only saw guys sleeping there. The pool is impressive – and the weight room. The outside patio (very small – not at all like Oase or World) – off of the weight room was closed. Most of my time was spent in the bar area.
Eventually spotted a model-type German blonde named Sally. Smiled and nodded, she came up to the bar. Normally, she is not my type – she was 170 cm (little taller than I like), blonde/ brown eyes (that is good! ), C or D cup bolt ons (normally breast size isn’t important – but prefer natural). HOWEVER, she was very easy to talk to, we had both been to Miami recently, so had a good (OK – it was superficial) conversation – and enjoyable (what 50 year old can claim an interesting conversation with a 20-something model! ). We sat in one couches by the bar – and eventually to a room. The clinching factor was the offer of a slow session with body massage – and was clear everything was on the table. Tried to upsell – but just told her to start with 30 minutes – and we’ll see what develops. Overall, I think if I had been more ‘directing’, this could have been a good session. But it was only OK. The body massage was less than a minute – and she covered herself with oil – which made kissing, etc., not an option. An meant that she took out a very cold wipe to clean me off before the BBBJ – almost brought everything to a stop. It was an incredible view in CG, but her breasts were very hard. Went to mish – finished in doggie – what an incredible view- both from behind & in the mirror. Finished in about 45 minutes – she was ready to go, but I wanted another 10 minutes or so – and she was agreeable. Overall, not spectacular and would not repeat, but OK.
Spent the next hour watching from the staircase on the main floor. Interesting to watch the dynamic – and it eliminated a couple of girls from consideration as they came down the stairs with obviously not enthusiastic customers. Spotted a petite, very slim, brown haired girl, not the most attractive, but a great smile. She was about 163 cm, probably 45 kg, B, natural cup – name was Sadi? From Poland. English was OK – we struggled a little, but she was a trooper – and we did laugh over some of the mis-interpretations. Spent about 15 minutes talking in the bar (while she smoked)– and then on to the room. Ended up in the same room as before – after a 10 minute wait. This was a relaxed, fun session. Asked about options, again – said we will see how things develop & she we OK with that. She does an excellent BBBJ, paying attention to all parts, and is an OK kisser – not fully DFK, but responsive. I took over, starting to kiss down her body. Never made it all the way down – and started in mish. Only drawback is she held onto the condom for the entire session – not so bad as she was tight, but it was a little distracting. Ended up in doggie – again great view in the mirror – and directly. We ended up within the 30 minute time frame. Overall, good fun, and would repeat because of chemistry.
Showered, then went back out – and saw one other girl that I would be interested in – reddish brown hair, slender, tight body, blue eyes, about 165 cm. But she was playing the electronic maj-jong (? ) machine for the next 30 minutes – and she was pretty serious – so decided to leave.
I would rate Artemis as one of the better clubs – but I have had better days at both Oase & Palace – but again – it was one night- an only 5 hours – and a Saturday. So I’m sure if I went back it would be better.
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First visit to Artemis
After hesitating about the price I decided to take a chance and try out the Artemis. I had a good time. My reference the Globe in Zurich.
I descriptions of the place in other reports are accurate although the smoke in the upper lounge did not bother me too much.
I arrived Sunday around 13:00 and left around 19:30. I was able to include two meals in the visit which made the 80 Euro entrance a bit more reasonable.
The place ws not crouded, the girls said that all the trafic was closed because of the Berlin Maraton. There were about 10-20 at first and the numbers encreased to 20-30 when I left the w/m ration was all the time about one to one. The general quality was low 6-7 but you could find alot of 8-9 and even 1-2 10. In general the girl quality in the Globe is better.
Had two sessions. This time I decided not to listen to my dick but to my brain.
I chose carefully. I avoided the stunners and the pushy ones and all and all enjoyed both sessions.
The first was with a Let girl called Carolina. I met her on the sofa downstairs she was nice warm and tempting. She has green eyes prity face (in my opinion I dont like the barby face more the cary ann moss type) good figure although she was not thin. She cooperated with kissing (no thong) gave a nice bare blowjob and after three positions I finished. Good starter noting to write praise songs about.
Had some wellness action, sauna, weight workout, sleeping near the pool. Maybe it was a slow night but the girls came downstairs alot and I had to fend off shark attacks during relaxation. I don't like the pushiness. I always gave in for one but during the conversation she told me she is not kissing so I thanked her and sent her back to the sea.
The second session was with Samira. She is turkish small thin figure. Brown skin, prity face (her face skin is a bit rough but it thus not harm the general impression) dark eyes, thin figure. She was kissing passionatly gave an exelent blowjob and cooperative fucking in all positions. I finished with a handjob from the legends with her finger in my ass. Enjoyed the session very much.
All in all 80+60+60 Euro well spent.
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[QUOTE=Joe Bond]
The place ws not crouded, the girls said that all the trafic was closed because of the Berlin Maraton.[/QUOTE]
Strange, because the Marathon are in september. [url]http://www.scc-events.com/events/berlin_marathon/2009/[/url]
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Looking forward to visiting Artemis tomorrow (Saturday) afternoon, about 2:30 pm. Will anyone from the ISG board be there? I haven't been able to touch base with anyone when I've visited Palace and Oase in Frankfurt, but maybe in Artemis?
I'll be the slim Asian (Chinese) guy about 50, walking around and scoping out the girls. Say hello!
Regards, R.
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Artemis Reports
Here are a few short reports from over the past few weeks.
Sol, from Argentina apparently, mid to late 20’s dark hair and complexion, large-ish enhanced breasts and a solid frame. Speaks good English, actually better than her German I think. We met on the sofas in the bar and at first I was not overly impressed or enthusiastic. But she has something. Sort of a “dirty girl” appeal and I thought she might be a good fuck.
Off to the rooms we went and soon we were on the bed and out came the handy wipes.
Yikes!
The first thing I noticed is that she had very little sensitivity to the fact that the male organ (Little Angus) can be, at least at first, a bit in need of some careful handling. I understand the need to give Little A a wipe but this girl was pulling and wiping like she wanted to yank him off. On to the bj and things did not get much better. Sol can not be faulted for a lack of enthusiasm but she seriously needs to learn some sensitivity skills.
I asked her to slow down a bit and soon had her lying on her back with her legs spead and gave her a good licking to which she was reasonably receptive. But as it was a half hour session we soon put on the condom and assumed doggy position. This is where she seemed to excel. She is, as mentioned, a solid framed girl and she could take a rather vigorous fuck for a good length of time. In the end I was satisfied with this but was a bit disappointed that the preliminaries (foreplay) was sub par.
I like this girl and she was a fun and interesting conversationalist but it is doubtful that I would book her for a repeat session.
Juliana claims to be from Costa Rica and she certainly has a bit of a Latina Look(reasonably tall, streaked hair, nice eyes, solid wide hips and simply magnificent pair of large stand-up breasts-more on these later) but she seems to have spent a good deal of her life in Europe. Again she has good English and is a reasonably skilled conversationalist who seems in no hurry to get to the room. In fact after 15-20 minutes of talk, though interested, I begged off her request to go to a room claiming that I was still to close to my earlier session and needed some time to recuperate. She took it well and we agreed to maybe hook up later.
Later arrived and I called her over. She seemed a bit surprised but then I guess the girls hear the later excuse a lot. Soon we were in a room and she started me off with a massage after briefly trying to up sell me to an hour session.
The handy wipes came out and the session went a bit south:-((
Now I understand that the girls need to be a bit concerned with hygiene. But Juliana seemed to be a wee bit overly worried that Little A was some how oozing disease. She used several wipes and got down close, inspecting him for, I imagine, all manner of drips and bugs. Finally satisfied she proceeded to give a hand job and finally, reluctantly I felt, gave him a bit of a perfunctory suck. It felt like she was doing me a favor and wanted to get this part of the session over with asap. Fine with me seeing as it was such a lousy bj, and soon Little A was finding himself nestled between her breasts.
A word on her breasts. She claims that they are natural. The are big (C’s?) and stand up without a hint of sag. And there are no visible scars. The only place I did not really check was under the arms for insertion scars. I felt it would be rude. But...I have my doubts as to their lack of enhancement. Just too perfect IMO. And I could swear I felt the implant at least in one of the breasts. But if they are implants, and I am really not sure, they are the best job I have ever had the privilege to fondle.
So I could have quite happily just titty fucked her. But to finish there she wanted extra.
Fuck that. For what is ultimately a glorified hand job?
So after a lick of her pussy I had her assume the position and fucked her vigorously for some time from behind. As this was a later session for me it took a while and I have to give the girl credit for maintaining a litany of reasonably convincing moans and encouragement and a smattering of dirty talk to bring home the desired conclusion.
In the end I mentioned to her that she seemed not to enjoy the bj part of the session and she got quite defensive and gave me a lecture on how unhygienic is the male organ. I was tempted to suggest another profession, or at least a switch to a venue where she could deliver cbj, but did not want to escalate her Latin temper at this point so I just agreed with her that penis’ are generally filthy and dripping nasties and need to be steam cleaned regularly.
So in the end I was fairly disappointed in this session and again I would have to say that I would not repeat with Juliana.
Nicolette (early 20’s) comes from Bulgaria. I met her late one evening and what struck me was her smile. She has a great big and genuine smile and is very much fun to talk to. No pressure from her as we lay and chatted fro quite some time. Her English is quite good.
Now this girl is not the most glamourous girl working the room but she has a nice look to her and she takes care of herself. She is (again) a solid girl with a big ass and small-ish breasts. But not too small. I actually find them to be a perfect size.
In the room I have to say that the fist thing I noticed was the quality of the bj. Ncolette is a very enthusiastic fellatrix. But she is not a technician, she is an enthusiast. By this I mean that some girls seem to have a bag of trick and they are all about technique, eg. Conchita, Christine-see previous reports.
Nicolette has a degree of sensitivity but mostly she just seems to let loose and gobble the knob. Simply lovely.
So I have repeated with Nicolette several times and each time it has been very, very enjoyable and the sex has been hot. She a girl who wants you to have a good time and will work to make that happen.And she remembers what you like and will deliver it the next time. She gets a very high approval rating from me, attested to by the fact that I have repeated with her every time I have been to Artemis in the past month or so.
I especially enjoy a cim finish with her;-))
Well that is all for now. This will be my last report for several months (sometime next fall) as the summer months are upon us and I want to take some time to regroup, save a bit of cash and give the Artemis scene a bit of a rest. Going to the same FKK often can be fun but I notice that the last few times I have been it has been a bit boring. I feel the need to give it a bit of a rest and allow some fresh talent to appear. But I will be a round and am always available for questions and comments.
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]
Well that is all for now. This will be my last report for several months (sometime next fall) as the summer months are upon us and I want to take some time to regroup, save a bit of cash and give the Artemis scene a bit of a rest. Going to the same FKK often can be fun but I notice that the last few times I have been it has been a bit boring. I feel the need to give it a bit of a rest and allow some fresh talent to appear. But I will be a round and am always available for questions and comments.[/QUOTE]
As always another top-notch report!
About the last paragraph quoted above:
Maybe this is the time to get on a train to Duesseldorf or Frankfurt and give a try to say GT or Oase? Imagine the excitement and adventure when you bring your A game, honed by many nights in Artemis, to a new club? It's like a star poker player bringing his game to a new casino where the other players don't know him. And you will finally see an FKK with an outdoor area! Just a thought you know...
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It´s a whole different ballgame
[QUOTE=Joe Bond]I am arriving to Berlin at the end of June too (maybe the same conference as Sko.
I would like to know what is the quality of the studios/massage parlors/private girls i.e. brothels in Berlin vs an FKK like Artemis?
In such a place you get a session for 60-80 EU for example:
[url]http://www.royalgirl.de/[/url]
Is Artemis worth the 80 Eu entrance fee?[/QUOTE]Like Angus said, you pay for the facilities and the possibility to chat the girls up.
I used to frequent KD when in Berlin, but during my last couple of visits I have started to focus on Artemis. I took me a while to learn the ropes, to sort out the good ones (it is a learning experience every time) and to appreciate being chased. The sessions keep on getting better and better - and costlier.
If you have the time (5-10 hours) and money (250€ and up), treat yourself to a luxurious night. If you are on a budget, you can get a quality session at the aforementioned establishments.
Some people enjoy playing soccer and others golf...
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[QUOTE=R The Man]Looking forward to visiting Artemis tomorrow (Saturday) afternoon, about 2:30 pm. Will anyone from the ISG board be there? I haven't been able to touch base with anyone when I've visited Palace and Oase in Frankfurt, but maybe in Artemis?
I'll be the slim Asian (Chinese) guy about 50, walking around and scoping out the girls. Say hello!
Regards, R.[/QUOTE]Just curious R Man as I will be in Berlin shortly for the first time. In addition to being an anglophone, is there any slight at all felt for being an Asian (Chinese) hobbyist in these parts?
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[QUOTE=Nick Depalma]Just curious R Man as I will be in Berlin shortly for the first time. In addition to being an anglophone, is there any slight at all felt for being an Asian (Chinese) hobbyist in these parts?[/QUOTE]I am assuming you are asking whether you would be welcome in Artemis. Answer is yes, if you are clean, solvent and behave as impeccably as all Asian gents do in my experience in these clubs.
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[QUOTE=Ortos]As always another top-notch report!
About the last paragraph quoted above:
Maybe this is the time to get on a train to Duesseldorf or Frankfurt and give a try to say GT or Oase? Imagine the excitement and adventure when you bring your A game, honed by many nights in Artemis, to a new club? It's like a star poker player bringing his game to a new casino where the other players don't know him. And you will finally see an FKK with an outdoor area! Just a thought you know...
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Thanks.
And a very good thought it is too. One that is on my mind. I do have to wait and see how the summer plays out as my income takes a bit of a dip in July/August. In any case I do have it on my agenda to make a small FKK tour with esteemed ISG member Iseeu this coming fall. Perhaps in October. But as you say, it would be nice to experience an FKK with an outdoor area so I will also look at the possibility of a shorter trip in August sometime.
Regards and I will keep you posted.
AM
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Shenya (sp?)
As mentioned by others, I have never had problems as an Asian in any brothel or FKK in Europe (except in some of the Chinese houses in Barcelona, where they seem not interested in serving Chinese men - strange).
I visted Artemis on a Saturday afternoon, and it was not as impressive as my previous visit. Seems smaller, now that I am used to Palace and Oase (which is not big either). Also, don’t like the smoking in the only lounge with the girls.
The lineup also did not seem impressive, either in quality or quantity. I like girls who are young, petite and slim – not enough of them for me. I eventually chose Shenya (spelling?), a 22-year old bleached blonde Bulgarian. Her face was not spectacular, but her body most definitely was, with the most firm tits that only a young 20-something girl can have and a lovely ass.
She was a good choice, as we started with nice kissing and foreplay in the kino, progressing to a lovely BBBJ. Her technique was marvelous and she could have made me cum with her mouth alone (which does not happen often for me), but unfortunately CIM not on the menu. However, she was very accommodating and sweet, so I upgraded to an hour and we spent a great time in many positions until she gave me a spectacular finish by hand (since I do not enjoy a condom finish). Afterwards, my feeling was the experience was so good that I didn’t need to have another. After a quick look around at the lineup to make sure there wasn’t a spectacular can’t-miss girl (there wasn’t), I headed off satisfied.
I've always said that variety is the spice of life (and sex!), and maybe the FKK novelty is wearing off a little for me? Perhaps I should try some new experiences like a partytreff? I enjoyed my time at a Lady Marmalade Party in London, which I understand is somewhat like a partytreff.
R.
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Sex on the bridge of the enterprise
Skogskatts log, stardate 25.06.2009
I answered a distress call coming from my own body. It told me to visit a place called Artemis on the northern hemisphere of the planet earth in sector 001. There were bipeds from the human race of both sexes there, however only the females interested me, since they made my mind respond by turning on the pleasure centers.
I noticed quickly that the main floor was polluted by some sort of gas in its atmosphere, so I quickly retreated downstairs and lay on the couch under the stairs. As I was lying there reading my book, several of the females came over to me, not many of them were able to communicate more than a desire to go to some enclosed location they called "room". So I quickly dismissed them, as this was very boring.
But then, after a few hours, I walked through the pool area and sat at the bar. Then a colored female came over to me and sat down. She was tall, and had a pair of fat-containers on her torso. I liked them. She talked to me about how much she liked Star Trek, and also that she never stayed at Artemis later than 2000 in the evening, and she did not like the pollution in the air.
We went to a room upstairs after talking for 20 minutes or so. I found her intelligent.
We got undressed, and we started to touch each other. She said that my skin was soft, and that she liked to touch me. I bit her nipple, and she shuddered. She said that she did not like turkish guys, since they often wanted submission from the female, but she liked norwegians, because they were often sensitive and careful.
She put a condom me, this had the flavor of strawberries. She did not put my penis into her mouth or vagina without putting on a condom. This was fine with me. We did not kiss, either. It was tempting to kiss her, because she had a nice smile.
After a while she took off the condom and started to jerk me off, but this did not make me ejaculate. We were now getting past the 30 minutes allocated, so she said I had to pay 20 euros more to put on another condom.
We did that, and she sat on me while I touched her breasts and had a nice orgasm and started to laugh and smile, and she smiled as well. She asked me if I had not had sex for a long time, and she shook her head in disbelief looking at the condom. I liked that.
Just as I payed her the money I noticed she had some red spots on her abdomen, and a few days later I noticed these anomalies on my arm and thigh in the form of red dots in a circle shape the size of a 1 euro coin. The data base suggested it could be herpes, but there were no discomfort, and nothing in the genital areas. I have the doctor and taken the relevant tests, but he was pretty sure it was nothing else than maybe a sun rash or from swimming in the sea.
All in all the visit was an interesting experience, but I am very skeptical to the smoke, the many girls who asked about going to a room the second sentence they spoke. I can very easily imagine what a hassle it is to visit this place in the evening.
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Skogskatt travel to Artemis from outer space!
Du är roligt du =)
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I never liked the atmosphere of A. It always reminds me of a clinic. So after some visits in the past I decided not to return.. Now, last week, friends of mine from Scandinavia came to see me in Berlin and as the had heard so much talking about this place they insisted to go there with me as their local guide. I wasnt too amused, but after all I agreed and now I am happy I did.. Because of a girl from CR, 1.70 m, very thin, small but beautyful "puffy" breasts, long legs, brown hair and eyes, a little shy perhaps. She is, she said, from Pilsen and 20.. What a girl: beautyful, tender, friendly. And full service. (I don't like anal, so I didn't ask). I spent one session with her, added another session, asked for one more session and had a last session, only because I had my friends waiting.. Big, big, big problem: I don't know her name. Does anyone? I would like so much to see her again. Have a nice day.
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[QUOTE=Severin Carl] I spent one session with her, added another session, asked for one more session and had a last session, only because I had my friends waiting.. Big, big, big problem: I don't know her name. Does anyone? I would like so much to see her again. Have a nice day.[/QUOTE]
You spent 4 sessions with her in the same evening and you are asking us if we know her name? Sounds like she really put the whammy on you Carl;-)
Seriously, I'm sorry I can't help right now as she does not sound like any of the girls I have run across in my past few visits. But I will most definitely be on the look out for her when next I go. I LOVE puffies and I am a bit surprsied that I don't know who you mean as I have finely tuned puffy radar usually.
If I come across any relevant info I will post it here.
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You spent 4 sessions with her in the same evening and you are asking us if we know her name? Sounds like she really put the whammy on you Carl
Sure, she did. She told me her name, when I met her. I didn't understand because of the music and thought so ask her again. But then. What a girl once more. Without my friends I still would be there. Its how much. A week or so? Thanx anyway.
Welfare, freedom, happyness.
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Artemis - a look back
This is a look back on two visits I made to Artemis in November of 2007. Most of the girls are probably gone, but some may still be there. Apart from a description of specific girls, it’s a breakdown of some of the kinds of girls I encountered there, and gives some idea of kind of interactions you might have at Artemis or other FKKs.
African Girls: Bonnie
I spotted Bonnie as I was heading into the dining room; the sight of her sitting on the bench outside the door, with her long, shapely legs spread to reveal her snatch, quickly diverted my route. I sat alongside her and we discussed a number of things, including her mixed Angolan-Cuban heritage and the five or six languages she spoke. Soon enough we proceeded to a room, and I definitely felt conspicuous walking through the club beside this gorgeous tall, slender black woman wearing a gold chain around her waist. Inside the room she displayed her fine Spanish skills by asking how she could please my "little bandido." Her lips helped, but she was also adept as a cowgirl and even animated as I finished in missionary (eliciting a rare p4p compliment on how he pressure and angle stimulated her clit). Unfortunately, I didn’t find Bonnie when I returned the next night.
For the sake of future guests, I hope that either Bonnie is still at Artemis, or that her whereabouts at another FKK can be located, but in chatting with her it sounded like she would be moving on. I actually wouldn’t be surprised if she moved on to a more high-powered career in business, politics, etc; this black woman is sharp, sharp, sharp. In our conversation she was pretty disdainful for most of the other girls at Artemis, declaring that "they probably don’t even know who Andrea Merkel is! "
Teenie Girls: Kami
When I saw Kami at the end of my last night at Artemis I said to myself (silently) what some people say when they see a kitten: "Awwww, how cute! " This sweet little Bulgarian brunette could not have had her 18th birthday (if that) long before starting at Artemis; it may actually have been her first day or week. Kami looked like a lost puppy – wearing a hairband and a tiny frilly miniskirt that didn’t quite cover her butt cheeks, she seemed uncomfortable and very much out of place among a large group of more hardcore women at the upstairs bar. When she moved toward the back of the room, near the curtained semi-private divans, I came up to her, but her English was non-existent and her German was not much better. In lieu of chatting I sat on the divan and caressed her bottom and cupped her tiny boobs while smiling like a smitten schoolboy. As she nervously lit up a cigarette, she proceeded to stumble off the step in front of the divan. Precious.
I only had a little while left before I had to leave Artemis to catch an overnight train out of Berlin, but I knew I had to have Kami to make my visit complete. The place was busy and rooms were booked, but we found one of the rooms outside the downstairs Kino that had only curtains instead of doors. Once in the room, Kami’s inhibitions disappeared. After the BJ she mounted me, and I couldn’t believe how tight her pussy was. By the time we moved onto missionary and I was cumming, the whole experience of fucking such a cute little teenie had me saying crazy things like "I love you" – my mind was simply gone. We had some time left before the end of the half hour and I gave her a neck (and titty) rub. As we were leaving the room and passing by the open doorway of the Kino, with me glowing after having had sex with such an innocent little cutie, she starred letting out some loud pornstar moans, mimicking the sound of the flick on the screen. She really was hardcore, after all!
Brazilian Girls: Solange
Solange from Brazil had been one of the few girls I had kept in mind by name from reading the forum before my visits to Artemis. So when the woman I sat down next to at the upstairs bar broke the ice by asking where I was from and by telling me she was from Brazil, I asked if she was Solange. But not knowing how it was said correctly I pronounced it as the German "so lange, " which made her laugh. (It could actually be a good marketing slogan, "Ich liebe/ficke dich so lange"). Tall, with jet-black hair and Brazilian curves, her looks matched her playfulness and so we went to the room. There she rode me energetically and had me cumming on a night on which I had to that point some dud sessions. My one regret is that she did not kiss on the lips (the lack of kissing was fairly typical of the girls I sessioned with), but some kisses on my cheeks and compliments at the end of the session more than compensated.
Students: Andrea
In my hobbying I have always had a thing for girls who are in the business temporarily to support their studies. At the end of my first night at Artemis I met a student named Andrea, a blonde Hungarian who was studying law in Koln, and whom had just arrived for her shift that night after a drive of several hours. She was at the downstairs bar with a slender brunette friend, but I was trying to focus on getting together with a blonde for my last session, and for that reason I declined her friend’s suggestion of a threesome (my remaining funds had something to do with it also). The early signs of how things would go were not encouraging: as we sat on a bench waiting for a room to become available, she sat demurely next to me, resisting attempts to kiss, which frustrated me since on the next bench over was a couple that were all over one another like they were on their honeymoon. But Andrea apparently saved her energy for the room, where she was rather active and kissed passionately. We could only communicate in German, but we talked a bit about ourselves during the session, and I could picture her someday as something like a war crimes prosecutor at The Hague. She was serious, but classy as well; I indulged another fantasy by picturing her as a descendant of Hapsburg Austrian-Hungarian nobility. Who knows, maybe she was.
Blonde Polish Girls: Tiffany and Bianca
From reading the forum I knew going in that Artemis was one of the premier clubs among FKKS for blonde Polish women. It did not disappoint, and since I had not been with many blondes to that point in my mongering career, I was pretty excited. Tiffany, a busty blonde with a somewhat solid body and curly hair, came up to me as I was having a drink at the upstairs bar. We chatted a bit, and although hers was not the body type the usually appeals to me, her friendliness and large boobs swayed me. Inside the room she was extremely warm and cuddly; in fact, she told me to treat her like my teddy bear. We ended up not really being complementary during the sex acts, and ultimately it ended without me cumming, but I faked having made a deposit in the condom to spare her feelings.
I had another encounter with a Polish woman, Bianca, that was hotter sexually, but not as warm emotionally. This perfect-bodied blonde with stylish, upswept hair was making the rounds with a friend offering threesomes. The two of them sat next to me, but I told them that I preferred to just go with one for now. In the room chatting and foreplay were not on her menu; it was a by-the-book program, BJ then fucking. But oh what fucking; her riding me to completion in reverse cowgirl may be my all-time definitive memory of that position, for the shape of her ass and the sensation of pumping her while caressing her incredible silky smooth cheeks. While the "cum baby" comments were blatantly artificial, they were not as annoying as I had experienced on other occasions before and since. Overall, I wouldn’t call the session so much mechanical as business-like, and she was making a lot of business that night. I guess I could have classified her with the sharks (see below), but despite the drawbacks she left me a satisfied man, so how can I be too critical?
Sharks and Annoying Girls: Viagra, Fatma, and Rossi
I had read on the forum about Miss Viagra (Bulgarian brunette) tending toward the sharky side, but was still intrigued by the descriptions and was kind of hoping I would run into her. I had arrived at Artemis just a short time earlier that evening (my first visit there, actually my first FKK exploration ever), and was sitting at the downstairs bar. And there she came, swishing through the room, with a red scarf tied around her hips showcasing her glorious round ass. She scanned the sparsely populated room and, seeing me there, came right over and introduced herself. At this point I said to myself "sharks be damned, " as I was curious about Miss V. And eager to get my first FKK fuck under my belt. We went to the basement Kino and kissed a bit, but when she moved to give me a bbj I suggested getting a zimmer, and we soon relocated to one nearby. She had me ready to cum with the BJ there, but I wanted to shoot inside her. She rode me nicely in cowgirl, but I wasn’t able to cum when she prompted me (she scolded me that using cum restraint when getting a BJ will make it more difficult to shoot later, maybe she was onto something). At that point, about 15 minutes in, she declared that our session time was over. I protested, but she said that the Kino time had taken up the first half. Since we had only kissed there, I disagreed, but left it at that. Shark sighted!
Fatma knew how to be alluring: She sprawled out on a divan at the end of the upstairs bar area, her lithe body on full display, with her long legs accentuated by fishnet stockings. It didn’t take much more than that to convince me to join this brunette Slovak, and her insisting that we get a room rather than sit and chat awhile should have warned me off, but the exotic beauty was too much to resist. Once in the room I tried to make a connection by revealing my intimacy with Slovak culture (admittedly not much other than a single visit to the Slovak hockey hall of fame in Bratislava), but while she warmed up a bit, by the 15 minute mark she was all about clock watching and making her exit. What I found really annoying was that she kept complaining about how my Artemis wrist band was catching on her fishnet stockings, which was difficult to avoid with her in cowgirl or doggystyle. When I ran into Fatma a couple of times later that evening she was very cold.
Rossi was a brunette Bulgarian, but I would have sworn she was Latina. I sat beside her at the downstairs bar and we had a very friendly conversation, which I usually use to decide whether to go for a session or not. All signals looked fine, so we got a room (if I recall, the Cleopatra room) which seemed fittingly exotic for a session with this sultry woman. But I would have been better off with a mummy. The BJ was unskilled and over quickly, and when I inserted my cock inside Rossi she complained that it was bothering her because it was forcing in too much air (! ), no matter how I changed position. At some point, I just gave up and called it quits with her.
I have sweet memories of Artemis. The entrance fee is npt cheap and the price per session is higher than at other FKKs, but the facilities are just about the best I’ve seen (compared with the Frankfurt big 3, Augsburg Coliseum, and a few others), with an Arabian Nights ambiance, nicely decorated rooms, and an excellent pool and sauna area on the lower floor. Especially in contrast to a poor experience at LaFolie earlier in my trip, it was clearly the highlight of my Berlin visit and a fine introduction to FKK life. When in town check it out, it’s hard to miss.
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Rossi
[QUOTE=Ibn Buttita]
Rossi was a brunette Bulgarian, but I would have sworn she was Latina.
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How did you know that? What does "latina" mean? I believe she is a Bulgarian.
WBS
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[QUOTE=West By Sun]How did you know that. What does "latina" mean? I believe she is from Bulgarian.
WBS[/QUOTE]
I understand that she comes from Bulgaria but has a "latina" look to her. I can think of a couple of Bulgarian girls working currently at Artemis who could pass for latina if they could pull off speaking the language.
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This is my first trip to Berlin. Staying at alexanderplatz with family and friends. Can only get off for one afternoon. But wud like to try out a MP or Private that is easy to get to from alexanderplatz.
Appreciate any advise.
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[QUOTE=Jason24]This is my first trip to Berlin. Staying at alexanderplatz with family and friends. Can only get off for one afternoon. But wud like to try out a MP or Private that is easy to get to from alexanderplatz.
Appreciate any advise.[/QUOTE]
First of all I would post this in the Berlin thread. This is Artemis FKK thread and is more specifically for questions and reports pertaining to Artemis.
So you could spend an afternoon at Artemis but this will cost the entry fee (80 Euros) plus what ever you spend on the girls-60 Euros per half hour session. Artemis is not particularly close to Alexanderplatz but would not be too hard to travel to via UBahn/SBahn.
As far as I know there are not too many places real close to Alexanderplatz. There are a couple of Thai massage places near but as this is not my area of expertise I can not be too much help with names addresses etc.
I would suggest Liberty. It would be about a half hour ride on UBahn but other than that it would be quick and most important, dependable.
Here is a link to the website.
[url]http://www.libertyberlin.de/index_2.html[/url]
Have fun and don't forget to post a report.
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Artemis Weekend
The place was unseasonally busy during the weekend due to the U2 concert on Saturday. Lots of guys, not so many girls (but more than previous weeks, according to comments I heard). I spent my time mixing old and the new.
New notable experiences:
Paris, German ~20. Hot, slender body with small but firm tits. Long dark blond curly hair. From some angles looks a bit like Paris Hilton, but made me think more of Sarah Michelle Gellar. Very good at what she does, but wants extra money for pretty much everything, even things that should be included. And a tip.
Helena, ~20, slender, dark straight hair, nice full breasts with pierced nipples. Great kisser, good session but the room was too damn hot to enjoy it properly. Would repeat in cooler weather.
Heard comments from several girls that they would go on vacation starting this or next week, since most of Berlin would be going on vacation as well. The place was noticeable more empty on Monday than the previous days. Prospective visitors should take note of this.
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[QUOTE=Nukrimo]The place was unseasonally busy during the weekend due to the U2 concert on Saturday. Lots of guys, not so many girls (but more than previous weeks, according to comments I heard). I spent my time mixing old and the new.[/QUOTE]I was there on Saturday as well and I didn't think the spillover from the U2 concert was that bad at all. It was much, much worse when there was a basketball tournament in town a couple of months ago. In fact, I didn't even know of the concert until I came across a group of my (drunk) countrymen late in the evening who had attended and told me about it. One of them, BTW, seemed to be sleeping most of the night in one of the sun beds downstairs, dead drunk. Leave it to the N*******ns to fall for the temptations of alcohol and thusly forsake the pleasures of the flesh in such a predictable manner. I did that myself that Sunday, when I wanted to to leave Artemis in the evening and go for a few beers. I ended up drinking myself into a stupor, and was presumably lucky to even get back to my hotel in one piece, having no recollection of how I did so when I woke up the next morning.
All in all, I found the line up this past weekend somewhat lackluster. Not many of my favourites were present, and where have all those big breasted blond Poles and Czechs gone, and where is the Baltic contingent (Celina in particular)?
Still, on a positive note, Spanish Romy is now back. Mediterranean features and always a smile on her face. Probably the best GFE I've ever been given by a pro. A true gem of Artemis; she comes with my highest recommendations.
[QUOTE=Nukrimo]New notable experiences: Paris, German 20. Hot, slender body with small but firm tits. Long dark blond curly hair. From some angles looks a bit like Paris Hilton, but made me think more of Sarah Michelle Gellar. Very good at what she does, but wants extra money for pretty much everything, even things that should be included. And a tip.[/QUOTE] This girl is the same girl whom I reported very unfavourably on in the Palace thread about half a year ago. Then she was Denisa from Poland. Supposedly a professional masseuse. She has at least two piercings in her face, one above her mouth and one below. Could have one in her nose too, I'm not sure.
At Palace too she wanted to be paid extra for absolutely everything. When I saw her at Artemis, I thought she might have discontinued this practice, because I've never experienced a culture there of charging extra for services that aren't really extras in the way which some girls do at Palace. Apparently though, she is still up to her old tricks.
She approached me several times when I was at Artemis, but of course I rejected her. Beware this woman and her evil ways!
Then finally a question: does anyone know who that very pretty dark-haired girl who always seems to be bought champagne is? She has dark skin tone which I'm not sure is due to her complexion or if it is just a heavy tan. She has a slim figure with big breasts that could be fake, though I'm not sure. She often wears long leather boot to above her knees, but is otherwise naked. She seems very outgoing; I'm 90 % sure it was her I saw doing a "live performance" with an Italian looking guy in the stripper's cage towards the back when I visited Artemis a while back.
I never get to talk to her, as she is seemingly constantly being taken by someone who has bought her champagne.
Ozzy
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A Thursday night at Artemis - part 1.
After a lengthy delay on my flight from Lisbon to Berlin, I finally arrived back in town and got settled into my hotel in Ost-Berlin. It's a nice hotel but is a bit of a ride from the main attractions over in West Berlin. This is complicated by the fact that the S-bahns are very limited and you can't really count on them at all. Thankfully the U-bahns are running as usual, so when I made my way to Artemis instead of getting off at Westkreuz S-bahn I instead had to take the U-bahn to Kaiserdamm and took a leisurely stroll south to the big ''A''.
Walked through the doors around 3PM and it was mellow as you would expect at that time. Was greeted by some of the regulars. Got showered up and toured the grounds. I blew off the first few ladies that approached me as is my usual MO. I must say that the quality of women could be better. I see much hotter women on the streets of Berlin than I typically see here for the past couple of years. Also, there isn´t much turn-over in the women. The same chicks are there practically every night .... so much for variety. Anyway - I got to talking to a petite Thai lady that I spoke with briefly on my last trip. She calls herself Inka and she made it a point to stress that she had a place to stay away from Artemis when she got off work. She has a nice little body and a very nice pair of bolt-ons. It took me a while to determine that they weren´t real. When went up to a room and had a good time for 30mins. Nothing especially noteworthy but decent. Almost GFE-like.
Afterwards I went to their little gym and worked out for a bit. Inka passed through and talked with me for a few minutes. She asked me to hangout with her in the sauna and talk. I declined ..... but in hindsight I think maybe I should have taken her up on the offer. Maybe we could have made other arrangements.
- DSK
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Thursday at Artemis- part 2
After breaking a bit of a sweat I got showered up and relaxed down by the pool for about 45 minutes. I had been approached earlier by a blond Russian lady with short hair. She has a very nice bod (IMO), though a rather average face (the tie-breaker being that she is Russian). So when I found her later on hanging out at the bar I snagged her and we made a trip upstairs. Ella (her name) said that she used to be a gymnast and I can definitely believe that to be the case with her well formed body. I think that she is probably older than she looks - I never asked her age and don´t really care as long as a lady is attractive. I CAN tell you that her oral skills were top-notch. She could have finished me with her mouth and I would have been more than happy, but of course I opted to have some ''bumsen''. Should have stuck with the oral because she just didn't seem too animated. I've been privy to much better performances coming out of the former USSR. Then again maybe I needed to give my engine more time to recharge after having ''spritzed'' very recently. She is a nice lady and I may well go with her again. Maybe do a threesome with one of her friends as she had suggested.
When it was rounding about 9PM (how the time flys!). I wanted to go with at least one more lady before calling it a night. I spoke with the dark-skinned gal from Lithuania again: 1) She's always there. 2) I should go with her one of these days. However, another lady with long, dark hair caught my I. She was rather thin and though not really tall, she was taller than most of the women there. I eventually caught up with her a found out that she was from Sao Paulo, Brazil ... so obviously I had to break out my Portuguese and we had a nice chat both before and while were in one of the rooms. She was good at fellatio also and like many Brasilian ladies she did it with gusto. The sex was OK - not as good as I get when actually in Brasil, nothing Earth-shattering, but we had a pleasant time. She told me she wanted to visit me in America (Yikes!). I'm not into relationships nearly that serious. BTW- she called herself Kim.
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Artemis - in review.
After finishing up with Kim I got showered and bid my farewells to the staff. I think I may go there again this Saturday. Plan to check out other venues this Friday. Since I'm in Berlin for a week this time around I have the opportunity to try other P4P options; and as I said before there just isn't enough variety to keep me coming back to Artemis every day for a whole week. Too bad they aren´t able to rotate fresh ladies through more often but all I know is that I see many of the same women there now that I met not long after they had opened. Maybe it just me. At least the food was pretty good last night.
Even though I wasn't overly impressed by Artemis this time I will still visit it at least one more time. After all it is the only establishment of it's kind in this part of Germany. From the shear volume of FKKs and women available Frankfurt has a leg up on Berlin. But I simpy like Berlin much more than Frankfurt and the folks in Berlin are more open and laid-back. At least this has been my take on it.
I'll see what trouble I can get into this weekend.
- DSK
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God may take breaks on Sunday, but the Devil doesn´t.
In fact that is sometimes when the best sining is to be had. After suffering the horrors of alternative P4P options in Berlin, I made my return to the Temple of Artemis (not the ancient one in Turkey but instead the newer version in Berlin). Sundays are usually pretty slow with fewer women and more guys hanging about and I was prepared for this to be the case. I arrived around my usual time of 3PM and got changed. Saw many of the regular players: the Lithuania lady, the German gal from Köln, the Malaysian, fat girls that will go unnamed, and many others. Since it was pretty dead, I decided to use the fitness studio for an hour first. That´s one thing I like about Artemis is that I can exercise my body and my loins in one self-contained den of debauchery.
A tall lady from Serbia passed through and talked to me for a bit. She was pretty looking and friendly, though I didn´t hook up with her later that night. Showered afterwards and around that time a whole van-load of Italian guys showed up. The ration of guys to gals was already about 1:1, so this made it even worse. But this is common on Sundays. The Malaysian lady complained that I never went to a room with her. She just isn´t my type. Spoke with the Brasilian gal I went with a few days ago. Of course she wanted me to go with her again but I rarely repeat with a lady and especially not if I went with her during a past visit. She said that she was relocating over to Frankfurt soon, so I guess folks in Oase, Palace, etc. will be seeing her.
While resting down by the pool, a cute German gal from Stuttgart hopped on me and talked me into going with her. She isn´t really a hot gal (don´t think any of the gals there presently are much over an ''8'' on the 1 to 10 scale) but she was cute with a nice compact body. Had some cool tats as well. Think her name was Crissy. I actually spent an hour in a room with her. The experience was hardly PSE, but pleasant enough. She told me that the FKK in Stuttgart is nice and almost the size of Artemis. I might have to check it out if I ever pass through there.
Due to the poor ratios I just hung out and scopped out the scene. Some of the Italian guys were splashing around in the pool with each other and between that and the massage guys rubbing up on other guys it felt like I was in a gay sauna or something. Had to split from that scene. Met a gal named Bia from Spain that was at least thin. There´s a gaggle of Romanians that were about but I never hooked up with any of them. I do have some ideas of who I might go with when I return in a few days. We´ll see how it goes.
- DSK
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Two-fer Tuesdays; a smashing good night.
Tuesday was my last chance to visit Artemis on this trip before making my way back to the ol' USA. Arrived around 2:30PM and paid my dues. As I made my way to the changing area I sensed an evil that I haven´t felt in a couple of years. I noticed a thin blond gal who I suppose is around 5'7'' or so, she was hanging out by the coin machines smoking a cigarette and she reminded of a German lass I had a great time with in the past. I just shrugged it off and went ahead to get changed & showered. Started making my rounds and pretty much off the bat turned away the Malaysian lady again, she is persistent I will give her that. Talked with Bia (blonde gal from from Madrid), she´s thin with an average face. Has that evil in her eyes that tells me she might be pretty good in the sack. But since it was so early I told her that I wanted to scope out the scene first. Was approached by a blonde gal from Hungary who has a pretty nice bod on her. Said her name was Virgina. I was tempted to give her a go, but I wanted to follow this hunch that I had. The blonde lady I saw as I came in was now hanging out at the bar yakking with the Thai gal Inka. I made my way over and started talking with her, and yes she did seem very familiar. I finally asked her name and she said ''Charly''. Oh yes, I definitely remember this naughty minx. I had a very good time with her and one of her gal friends a few years back. Apparently she lives in Frankfurt, but comes over to Berlin to work from time to time.
She didn´t seem to remember me, but no doubt she has met many guys since last time we encountered each other. She got friendly very quickly (no surprise there) and she said she wanted to do a threesome with me an Inka. Since I had done a threesome with her last time - this time I preferred to see how she was by herself. But she called over Inka and they both sat on each side of me. Charly started rubbing on me an purring the way that she does and all the blood rushed from the head on my shoulders. Now thinking with my little head, I said ''Hey! A threesome sounds like a great idea!'' After making out on the couch for a few more minutes we got some drinks and made our way up to a room. I was asked if I had a room I preferred, but I must say that I´ve never really paid much attention to the rooms.
30 minutes with two ladies isn't much time, so I opted to go with them for a solid hour. Well we had a spirited adventure. Inka with her hot little body & Charly with her lithe frame. We tried many positions and combinations. It was great .... just wish I had a camera on me to record for future reference.
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More debauchery follows!
After maxing out the hour, the three of us made our way downstairs so I could pay the piper. I head to the shower and the go to the little gym and workout for about an hour. Get showered again and relax by the pool for a will. Not a whole lot of guys getting in the way this afternoon, just enough dudes mulling about to keep things interesting yet there were definitely more ladies than fellas. By the time I made my way to the main bar it was around 7PM. Charly and Inka were up there chatting and we got to talking and laughing while checking out the scene. Charly was hugging and kissing on me a lot. Very cool. She said she had to leave at 8:30 to catch the train back to Frankfurt and when that time came she gave me a goodbye hug and kiss-kiss. At least now I have a good idea of the best times to catch up with her.
Inka stayed around and hooked up with other clients. I noticed that quite a few of the ladies were going around in pairs of two and trying to get guys to do threesomes. I´m not sure if that is a typical theme on Tuesdays or if it was just a coincidence.
I started to look for who else I may be able to hook up with. Then the idea of going with Bia popped in my head, so I went to see if I could find her. When I did find her, she was in the downstairs kino working on a client. I spied the ladies from Köln and the Lithuania dame. Those were options. I got cornered at the downstairs bar by a Brasilian lady that I personally don't find really attractive but I guess she's alright. We got to talking a bit about Brasil and things and then I spied Xenia walking through the area. I remembering Xenia from my past trip to Berlin in February and she is a pretty raven-haired lass from somewhere here in Deutschland - she a has a tight body on her. After a few more sentences, I broke away from the Brasileira and tried to track to Xenia. I has snagged right at the stairs but a cute and thin gal from Moldovia named Isabella. I didn't see Xenia in the area and I just couldn't turn down this sexy little number in front of me so me and Isabella went to a room upstairs.
We got into a room and when I offered to use one of my larger sized condoms. She sort of freaked and she said ''You are big?!''. Then she checked my little soldier and she was like ''You are big!''. I informed her that black guys are sort of known for being rather large at times (one of the few good stereotypes that we have). She seemed to be afraid that I would stretch her out too much, so I agreed for her to do a BBBJ -> CIM. I had done enough of the ol' in & out anyway. Sometimes it´s nice to get a regular blow. It was quite nice actually and afterwards we snuggled for a few minutes and talked. She seems to have a few sugar-daddies that buy her fancy gifts like stuff from Armani and Gucci. Hey, she's young and hot. Not too surprising.
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Artemis in summary.
Well my first two trips to Artemis were sort of average, but still far better than anything I'll get in the USA. My third time was a blast and is the reason why I'll be visiting Berlin and Artemis again & again. They had a lot of lean and mean honeys there on Tuesday so the generally attractiveness levels of the gals were much more to my liking. Next time I plan to spend more time in the Frankfurt area though.
So now my sights will turn to Brasil, where I head to this September. Won't bug you guys on this forum too much for at last a few months. If I have any Euros to spare I may see what the nightlife is like in Lisbon, I'll be there for a night before catching a flight back to America.
Ciao - DSK
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[QUOTE=Devilspinkick]Well my first two trips to Artemis were sort of average, but still far better than anything I'll get in the USA. My third time was a blast and is the reason why I'll be visiting Berlin and Artemis again & again. They had a lot of lean and mean honeys there on Tuesday so the generally attractiveness levels of the gals were much more to my liking. Next time I plan to spend more time in the Frankfurt area though.
So now my sights will turn to Brasil, where I head to this September. Won't bug you guys on this forum too much for at last a few months. If I have any Euros to spare I may see what the nightlife is like in Lisbon, I'll be there for a night before catching a flight back to America.
Ciao - DSK[/QUOTE]Hi man,
Nice report from Artemis.
I'll be in Berlin from 10 to 17 of August this summer.
Mostly I go to visit the city, and being there I wanna try this place, even if in deep summer would be better try a club with outdoor garden.
Maybe I will try Artemis on 15th Saturday. I think it is the most expensive fkk in germany 80entry + 60 half hour. But at least let's give it a try.
I've read that you brought with you your own condoms, I didn't try to do it, but sometimes it's happened in a fkk that they used too tight condoms, it's like no breathe. Bad sensation.
I booked an hotel in north part of the city, in Blankemburg-Buchholz zone, and I understood Artemis is in the west part of the city, close to Charlottemburg district.
Did you visit Berlin in your period there? Can you suggest something to must see?
In the end,
I've understand you are a black man, in germany in those clubs I suppose you meet mostly white girls, instead I like in those clubs meet black women, we have two ways of interracial fantasies, but no competition at all between us. LOL
Big hug!
Ciao
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Artemis First time
In Berlin one night Found Artemis right off the train station was late around midnight walked in paid 80 euros checked out the ladies and went with a tall blonde german I think her name was "Allie" B-Cup and shaved white garterbelt and stockings. Started with mutual touching then CBJ to doggie and finished Cowgirl she was 60 euros for 30 minutes. The ladies from Moldovia and Romainia all were pushing threesomes would have done it but funds were low. Business calls and off to Dresden.
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[QUOTE=Devilspinkick]
Inka stayed around and hooked up with other clients. I noticed that quite a few of the ladies were going around in pairs of two and trying to get guys to do threesomes. I´m not sure if that is a typical theme on Tuesdays or if it was just a coincidence. [/Quote]
I would say it is a theme for slow nights. The girls are trying to help each other out and share the clientele. Seems to have worked in your case with happy results.
[QUOTE=Devilspinkick]We got into a room and when I offered to use one of my larger sized condoms. She sort of freaked and she said ''You are big?!''. Then she checked my little soldier and she was like ''You are big!''. I informed her that black guys are sort of known for being rather large at times (one of the few good stereotypes that we have). She seemed to be afraid that I would stretch her out too much, so I agreed for her to do a BBBJ -> CIM. I had done enough of the ol' in & out anyway. Sometimes it´s nice to get a regular blow. It was quite nice actually and afterwards we snuggled for a few minutes and talked. She seems to have a few sugar-daddies that buy her fancy gifts like stuff from Armani and Gucci. Hey, she's young and hot. Not too surprising.[/QUOTE]
Interesting take on Isabella. I had one session with her some months back and it was a pure "optikfick" for me. The service was not very good IMO. The girls seems to have a nose for sugar daddies and I guess she knew that I wasn't sugar daddy material. Too bad as she does have a smokin' little body on her.
As for girls being persistent-I just tell them that they are not my type. This usually does the trick though it can make an enemy of them. There is one girl who I said this to some months back who still looks at me as if she could kill me. I guess that she took it personally or something.
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[QUOTE=Italia77]I've read that you brought with you your own condoms, I didn't try to do it, but sometimes it's happened in a fkk that they used too tight condoms, it's like no breathe. Bad sensation.[/QUOTE]
I always bring my own for just the reason you mention. I have never had any problem with the ladies accepting this. I think it is better for them as it cuts down on expenses. I don't believe that Artemis supplies condoms to the ladies.
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]I always bring my own for just the reason you mention. I have never had any problem with the ladies accepting this. I think it is better for them as it cuts down on expenses. I don't believe that Artemis supplies condoms to the ladies.[/QUOTE]It also happened that some ladies in fkks, doesn't know how to fit properly a condom. It's happened to me that ladies instead of take condom, put on the glans, put the air out of the reservoir, take the reservoir pressed and with the other hand unroll the condom. Instead of this mode some of them just take it with two hands and dress it to you like a SOCK. Sounds like they never fuck before. Anyway.
AM I've seen in the older posts you know very well Artemis, I will be there in Saturday 15th August. Do you feel I will try no one because the holidays?
Danke shoen!
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Berlin
Sorry, don't have a good grasp of local geography.
Is Artemis the only FKK in or near Berlin?
I've looked down the list and don't recognize many of the locations.
And how does Artemis compare to the Palace in Frankfurt?
Thanks
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[QUOTE=Gentleman Travel]Sorry, don't have a good grasp of local geography.
Is Artemis the only FKK in or near Berlin?
I've looked down the list and don't recognize many of the locations.
And how does Artemis compare to the Palace in Frankfurt?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Artemis is the only real FKK in or near Berlin. There is an FKK/bar (La Folie) but once you have visited an FKK you would be hard pressed to accept La Folie as such. It is more a bar with privileges.
The next closest FKK would be several hours travel from Berlin. I can not say for certain where but probably close to Frankfurt.
As for how they compare-I can not really say as I have been only to Artemis. But as I understand it, Artemis is similar to the bigger FKK, Palace, World, Oase. The girls I talk to at Artemis always tell me that Artemis is the best FKK in Germany. But I feel that is more for the mongers to decide so take it for what it is worth...
Artemis is however the most expensive FKK with an entry fee of 80 euros and a half hour session fee of 60 euros. And those extras can really kill the budget. I guess this reflects its' proximity to the capital city and the fact that it has no competition.
Hope this helps.
AM
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Next FKK from Berlin are Europa in Leipzig, FKK-Villa in Hannover and Atmos in Hamburg. They do not stand up to the standards of Artemis. And they are not "near" Berlin. Artemis is on one level with Palace and Paradise regarding hard- and software and on the same level regarding software with Oase, Palace, World, GoldenTime.
HB
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@ Italia77
I always bring my own condoms just out of habit. Sometimes they are needed and sometimes not. But if needed and not available (in other words, the condoms the gals supply are crap) then it has a significant impact on sexual performance and feel - IMO. The same thing goes for lube.
Concerning getting around the city. The S-bahn trains are very limited at this time. The U-bahns are still running as normal, so once again the U2 is a vital line to traverse the city. They say that the S-bahns will be largely unavailable until near the end of the year. The S-ring route are still quite frequent. Yes, Artemis is on the western side of the city. Berlin is a big city but not too hard to get around even with the transit issues. Taxis are also readily available and not too expensive.
Also, just because I'm a black guy that doesn't mean that I seek white chicks soley. Actually on this trip I spent time with a Brazilian and a couple of Asian chicks. That said of course, when I'm in Europe I spend more time with caucasians because when I'm in Brazil or Asian white gals are generally unavailable with the exception of fellow tourists and expats (the horror!).
There are quite a few things to do Berlin. There are some excellent museums close to the Berlin Cathedral. You could visit the Fernsehturm, the Victory Monument, the East Side Gallery, Brandenburg Gate, Schloss Charlottenburg, Potsdam, etc., etc.
I just arrived back in the San Francisco Bay and head back to the ol' rat race. Already thinking about when I might return to Germany. But have Brazil to distract me in about 6 weeks or so.
- DSK
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[QUOTE=Italia77]AM I've seen in the older posts you know very well Artemis, I will be there in Saturday 15th August. Do you feel I will try no one because the holidays?
Danke shoen![/QUOTE]
Truthfully I think that one can never quite predict these things. Of course as it is August the selection might very well be a bit less than usual. And almost for sure the real "hotties" will not be there. But a slow Artemis can offer something that Artemis on a very busy night, when all the hottest women are there, can't.
When business is off the ladies that are there can be a bit more willing to spend time outside the room, playing & flirting (trying to get your business), which they are unlikely to do on a busy Saturday evening when a Messe is in town.
Of course there is also the possibility that no one there will perk your interest. But I find that if I go with an open mind, not expecting to find the hottest girl ever, often I am rewarded with a very nice GFE experience.
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[QUOTE=Devilspinkick]Concerning getting around the city. The S-bahn trains are very limited at this time. The U-bahns are still running as normal, so once again the U2 is a vital line to traverse the city. They say that the S-bahns will be largely unavailable until near the end of the year. The S-ring route are still quite frequent. Yes, Artemis is on the western side of the city. Berlin is a big city but not too hard to get around even with the transit issues. Taxis are also readily available and not too expensive.[/QUOTE]
My experience with the Ring (SBahn) right now is that during the day the service can be very sparse. I have waited up to 20-25 minutes for a train to arrive.
At night the service seems to be pretty normal. So going to Artemis may take a while but getting home at 2:00-3:00 in the morning should be no problem.
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]As for girls being persistent-I just tell them that they are not my type. This usually does the trick though it can make an enemy of them. There is one girl who I said this to some months back who still looks at me as if she could kill me. I guess that she took it personally or something.[/QUOTE]
At times I just say that as well. I guess just like guys some ladies can handle being blown off better than others. One gal at Artemis asked me what type of woman I liked and I said. "Thin with a nice little apple ass". Since this didn't describe her, she sort of scoffed and called me arrogant and egotistical. I just shrugged and went about my way. In my mind I was thinking, "Maybe I am arrogant ..... and I'm still not going to have sex with your fat ass".
Seriously - why would any guy pay to have sex with a woman that under normal circumstances he wouldn't fuck for free? That would be crazy! I guess it doesn't stop the uglies/fatties from hoping. There are dudes out there that would fuck them from free. I wouldn't fuck them even if they paid me.
- DSK
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[QUOTE=Devilspinkick]At times I just say that as well. I guess just like guys some ladies can handle being blown off better than others. One gal at Artemis asked me what type of woman I liked and I said. "Thin with a nice little apple ass". Since this didn't describe her, she sort of scoffed and called me arrogant and egotistical. I just shrugged and went about my way. In my mind I was thinking, "Maybe I am arrogant ..... and I'm still not going to have sex with your fat ass".
Seriously - why would any guy pay to have sex with a woman that under normal circumstances he wouldn't fuck for free? That would be crazy! I guess it doesn't stop the uglies/fatties from hoping. There are dudes out there that would fuck them from free. I wouldn't fuck them even if they paid me.
- DSK[/QUOTE]I think the same, even if the first times in a fkk you can be drive crazy but some girls, expecially if the club allows girls approach customers and expecially if you are not a pussy hunter in normal life of seduction every day.
I understand that just in NRW, like dusseldorf, the girls not approach the customers, instead in frankfurt-berlin-stuttgart they do...not all of them , of course, but they can do it.
For my trip, I have to thank you for the suggestions, we are 2 persons and we arrive with our own car, we booked an accomodation in Blankemburg, I think 7-8 km north from the Berlin centre...and I don't know if when we will visit city not for Artemis, it may be better travel with public transportation, because I don't know how about the public parkings and traffic auto limitation in the centre of Berlin....
what u suggest to move in da centre?
danke shoen!
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First trip
Hello All. I will be in Berlin tomorrow night (Saturday) and think that I would like to visit Artemis for the first time. I have a couple of questions.
I will be staying downtown, not far from the Brandenburg Gates. I will have my car, is it better to take a taxi or to drive? I have a GPS, so finding Artemis will not be a problem- I am more concerned about parking at the club.
Next, since tomorrow night is a Saturday, I am wondering what the crowds are like there on a typical Saturday. If it is going to be a sausage fest (more guys than girls) or if it is going to be wall to wall people with nowhere to sit, I might pass. Is there a window of time to go that is better than others?
Thanks!
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[QUOTE=Italia77]
For my trip, I have to thank you for the suggestions, we are 2 persons and we arrive with our own car, we booked an accomodation in Blankemburg, I think 7-8 km north from the Berlin centre...and I don't know if when we will visit city not for Artemis, it may be better travel with public transportation, because I don't know how about the public parkings and traffic auto limitation in the centre of Berlin....
what u suggest to move in da centre?
danke shoen![/QUOTE]
Though I've been to Berlin quite a few times now, I am hardly an expert. I had to pull out the map to figure out where Blankenburg is. Dude! Why the hell are you guys staying way the hell out there?!
I stayed at the Tulip Inn in Friedrichshain. It was a very good & modern *** star hotel and I paid a mere $40 a night for a week's stay. It's in East-Berlin, on the other side of the city from Artemis, but closer to the action than Blankenburg. I personally would stay closer to the Stadtmitte but that's just me. The Tulip Inn I stayed at was at Frankfurter Alle, 73A. It's located in a shopping mall and is hard to find from the main street but it is there. It's discreet, the staff is friendly and speak English, and they don't care if you bring in guests. You get an access card and come and go as you please. The website is:
[url]www.tulipinns.com[/url]
You might get better rates if you search on Hotwire.com or HotelsCombined.com. I may stay there again when I pass through but there are also the Mercure hotels located around Berlin. In fact there is one in West-Berlin that's only about 1.5 kilometers north of Artemis. There are many other choices that no doubt I'm not aware of. Plenty of options in or near downtown. Then again, when I'm in Germany I've never used a POV and always relied on public transport or taxis. So distance may not be that important to you.
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]As for girls being persistent-I just tell them that they are not my type. This usually does the trick though it can make an enemy of them. There is one girl who I said this to some months back who still looks at me as if she could kill me. I guess that she took it personally or something.[/QUOTE]
I always smile and say either Pause, maybe later, or if I am just arriving, I tell them I want to relax first, maybe later.
I try, not always with success, to never to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off any of the girls, even if I have no intention of ever fucking her. The girls talk, so pissing of the ugly girl may affect how you are perceived by her hot friend. I also like to use goodwill in cliques. For example if I've gotten really good service from one girl and repeated with her, I will go with her friends that I see her hanging out with. Usually, they want a potential repeat customer and give me their A game.
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[QUOTE=Devilspinkick]Though I've been to Berlin quite a few times now, I am hardly an expert. I had to pull out the map to figure out where Blankenburg is. Dude! Why the hell are you guys staying way the hell out there?!
I stayed at the Tulip Inn in Friedrichshain. It was a very good & modern *** star hotel and I paid a mere $40 a night for a week's stay. It's in East-Berlin, on the other side of the city from Artemis, but closer to the action than Blankenburg.
- DSK[/QUOTE]I was thinking why I didn't see that hotel when I make my reservation, and the reason was because they have no more rooms available in that period (I checked on booking.com, usually I make my reservations there).
My criteria was to take cheaper hotels (45-50 eur per night double room rate), because I have planned a huge trip, so I have to take care of my budget. In details I will stay: 2 days in Stuttgart, 2 days close to Frankfurt, 7 days in Berlin and 4-5 days in Dusseldorf. I planned to visit 6-7 fkks. So I taked care to all the "fixed costs" out the clubs. LOL
Unfortunately the pussyclubs chain seems to be worse than in the past, the scenario readed in this forum nowadays make me doubtfull to try this partytreffs, so I think in Stuttgart maybe I will go just one day in fkk paradise and day two I will visit the Porsche museum (we found an hotel close to the museum, so it's a must see).
That's the reason for Blankemburg, exactly here:
[url]http://www.booking.com/hotel/de/bhberlinohgnord.it.html?aid=311091;label=hotel-61387-de-vIz*fspquwZHeadUezOkIQS678505884;ws=&gclid=CIbdsIOjgZwCFRISzAod0QKp8Q[/url]
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[QUOTE=Ekliges Lauern]I always smile and say either Pause, maybe later, or if I am just arriving, I tell them I want to relax first, maybe later.
I try, not always with success, to never to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off any of the girls, even if I have no intention of ever fucking her. The girls talk, so pissing of the ugly girl may affect how you are perceived by her hot friend. I also like to use goodwill in cliques. For example if I've gotten really good service from one girl and repeated with her, I will go with her friends that I see her hanging out with. Usually, they want a potential repeat customer and give me their A game.[/QUOTE]
Note that I said for the persistent girls. Most girls seem to know that "maybe later" really means, "not interested". There are girls though who will not take no for an answer.
It is for these girls that I suggest-you are not my type.
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[QUOTE=Ky Daddy]Hello All. I will be in Berlin tomorrow night (Saturday) and think that I would like to visit Artemis for the first time. I have a couple of questions.
I will be staying downtown, not far from the Brandenburg Gates. I will have my car, is it better to take a taxi or to drive? I have a GPS, so finding Artemis will not be a problem- I am more concerned about parking at the club.
Next, since tomorrow night is a Saturday, I am wondering what the crowds are like there on a typical Saturday. If it is going to be a sausage fest (more guys than girls) or if it is going to be wall to wall people with nowhere to sit, I might pass. Is there a window of time to go that is better than others?
Thanks![/QUOTE]
I can not say for sure about the parking but Artemis does have a fairly spacious parking lot out front and it is August so I would imagine that parking would not be a problem.
As for your second question-I suggest you read the thread. There has been much discussion and comment about this in the past few weeks.
Briefly-I doubt it will be a sausage-fest but the number of ladies is also likely to be down as it is August when many people in Berlin take their vacation.
But as I mention a few posts back-a slow Artemis is not necessarily a bad thing.
As for when to arrive-I find that 18:30-19:00 is a good time for the evening. The night shift girls will arrive starting late afternoon up until about 20:00. This gives you time to relax and acclimatize yourself before the action heats up.
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01/08/09-Eyes on the Ground/August Action Report
With all the discussion about August action at Artemis I thought to make an actual visit last night to see for myself (and my fellow ISG members) what the actual state of affairs might be. It’s a tough job but somebody has to do it;-))
I arrived while sun was still high in the sky at 18:00. It has been some weeks since my last visit but I was recognized and warmly greeted by the reception and soon had my money secured, clothes in the locker, white (well-beige actually) robe on, was showered and sitting on one of the sofas surveying the scene and drinking a Milch Café. I have to say that I have never seen Artemis so empty. There were perhaps a half dozen girls to be seen and maybe three other men in the room. But it is early days, I told myself, and, finishing the coffee, I headed down to the wellness area, also empty, to have a sauna, swim and a relax.
An hour later I was back upstairs. The number of girls had increased nicely, still a bit sparse but I could see that the evening shift was making its’ way in slowly. But there was still not so many white robes to be seen. So I took a seat on one of the back platforms and was soon being oh so warmly greeted by a steady stream of ladies, all hoping for an early trip to the rooms. But I was holding off on that pleasure for now and a steady stream of “veilleicht spä***” (I am not sure why this was ***ed out by the forum-I mean to say "maybe later" in German) had the girls slightly annoyed and me thinking about heading downstairs again to the sauna for some peace & quiet. But it is nice to be in a buyers market. Too bad the price is not negotiable.
Finally I spotted my current favorite girl (and I am sorry but I get a wee bit possessive about my favorite girls and will not, in this report, mention her name. If you are a regular contributer to the forum with a decent posting history and pm capabilities-and are interested-I will give it up in a pm. And she is a lovely girl.) on her way to the dining room, gave her a signal, sat back and waited.
Girl x arrived 20 minutes later, smiling and happy to see Ol’ Angus as only a girl can smile when she know that she will not have to do any work or persuasion for her first session of the night just after she has arrived on shift.
Kind of makes an old dog feel wanted...
So we found a private spot and cuddled, kissed and caught up on life since my last visit. Half an hour later we were climbing the stairs towards what was to be yet another stellar session with this particular young lady. I have to say that while variety is always nice, there is something about being a regular with an FKK girl that is unbeatable. She really gives her “A” game and that is hard to beat.
Later I stumble in to the bar on legs still made of rubber and head for the dining room where they served a passable cream chicken curry with rice and vegetables. The food at Artemis is hit and miss. When it is bad it is usually because (IMO) it is wildly inappropriate for eating in preparation for a night of sex & debauchery. Think of huge piles of potatoes, sauerkraut & over cooked meat and then try to think deep french kisses. Doesn’t work IMO. But tonight the food was light enough to be edible and not have to worry about it repeating on you at a most embarrassing moment, i.e. with you tongue down some hottie’s throat.
Exiting the dining room I went to the bar to order a drink and was soon approached by a beauty whose face & form were familiar but who I could not quite place. I was reasonably sure that I had not had a session with her at Artemis, but the way she approached and the face-I knew that I knew her but was at a loss as to how or where.
Luckily the young lady, Rosalind, knew exactly who I was. This was a girl I had visited multiple times in the winter of ‘07/’08 at a small private bordello in Charlottenburg-Girls WG. If you look back in the Berlin thread I have a couple of reports (I wasn’t quite so possessive with my faves back then-maybe it’s an Artemis thing) you will find my reports on Iwonka. This girl, Rosalind, was Iwonka.
Happy Days!
I enjoyed this girl very much (as evidenced by at least a half dozen visits over a period of 2-3 months) before the Girls-WG closed its’ doors sometime in the spring of ‘08. She says now she is Greek (I seem to remember her being Bulgarian but then her German was pretty bad back then as was her English-her German has improved-so I could be mistaken. In any case-if she wants to be Greek now that is fine by me) and she has a slender figure, wide hips, smallish (but respectable & well shapped) breasts, dark complexion, dark eyes and long, long, long silky black hair. She has a real exotic “gypsy” look to her with a prominent beauty mark (mole) near her mouth. And she is a firecracker in bed.
We went to a sofa to chat & cuddle a bit. After 20 or so minutes Rosalind thought it would be time to head upstairs. I however was still feeling the effects of my earlier session and wanted to wait a bit. I did want a session but I also did not want to head to soon to the room and, to be honest, I kind of had my eye on a slim blond who I had seen on my last visit and had the idea that I might like to meet her this time.
So I made my escape (and I have to say that Rosalind was in my mind for the rest of the night though we did not end up in the room last night. If she sticks around she will be high on the list next time-great girl) and headed off to try to meet the blond.
A word on the state of busy-ness now in Artemis-it must have been somewhere between 21:00 & 22:00 by now-the number of girls was good. I have seen more, but there were still plenty. Also the number of men had increased. It was actually at a level of busy-ness that I really like. The girls are happy because there are enough men to make it worth their while, but the male population is low enough so that they can not just take the next session for granted. They have to put in a little effort. And I also noticed that many of the (all too) familiar faces were missing. And there did seem to be a number of new faces present. (e.g. Rosalind) to make it an interesting night.
Off in search of the blond I found her at the downstairs bar embroiled in an intense discussion with the bartender. So, not really wanting to interrupt I did 20 minutes in the sauna and then again saw that she was still engaged with the bartender. What do these girls talk about for so long?
I sat to give her a few more minutes before interrupting and soon fell asleep in those big, all to comfortable chairs.
When I awoke some short time later the blond had disappeared:-((
Off I went in search of-but as I crossed to upstairs bar I spotted my fave in a sofa by the dance pole and sat down with her for a short chat. Jesus H Christ. I must be getting older as the short chat turned into an intense cuddle session (this girl loves to cuddle herself up to you) and we sat watching the strippers perform their 23:00 show, kissing & stroking until by the end of the show I whispered in her ear that I thought we should find a room-again-the second time in the same night with the same lady...
And the session was better than the last-passionate followed by an extended “pillow talk” session. Love the pillow talk.
After this I was down in the bar and I quickly decided to leave rather than do the usual-hang around way to long, not being able to find, at 2:00 am, the girl I want and so grab just any girl for a forgettable session, waking up the next morning, wallet thin and regrets fat.
A final note on the numbers-by midnight Artemis looked to me like pretty much any Saturday night that I have been in attendance. Plenty of girls to suit all tastes and a reasonable number of men to keep them happy, busy and making money. In fact I would have to say that it was one of the better Saturday nights I have been. The energy was more easy & relaxed than I usually experience at this time of night. And this could have to do with the fact that I had given it a rest for some weeks and so was more in the right frame of mind for visiting a club.
As usual the S-Bahn (runs just fine late at night) had me home in good time and sleep was most welcomed.
Thanks for reading.
AM
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Quick one, is it worth visiting Artemis on a Monday afternoon, like 15-19, or would I just be waisting my money? Have a flight to catch so I can't visit during the evening.
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[QUOTE=Cactus55]Quick one, is it worth visiting Artemis on a Monday afternoon, like 15-19, or would I just be waisting my money? Have a flight to catch so I can't visit during the evening.[/QUOTE]
This depends upon what you are looking for, what are your expectations and how exacting are your standards.
Monday at that time you must realize that there will be no endless parade of hotties to chose from. But there may well be a lady there who does it for you. And at that time (as I have mentioned before) the ladies who are there tend to be a bit more relaxed about things and will likely not try to whisk you off to a room in the first 2 minutes of meeting. This can be fun.
If you want to relax for a few hours (sauna, swim etc.) and enjoy the company of a lady, I would suggest Artemis.
If you are looking more for a hot hour of sex only it may be better to do some research in the Berlin thread and hit a bordello.
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Important info...
... on an upcoming sporting event in Berlin and how it may affect Artemis' business.
Hi,
Speaking with the ladies on Saturday several mentioned to me that there will be a big sporting event in Berlin, mid-August, and they are expecting big crowds from this event.
I did some research on the web and found this:
[url]http://www.berlin2009.org/1-1-home.html[/url]
a big track & field competition taking place in and around the Olympic Stadium in Charlottenburg from 15/08>23/08.
I mention it because the last time there was a big sporting event (a basketball competition this past May) I spent an evening at Artemis and it was the worst experience ever at this club. By 23:00 the club was so crowded that it was hard to even see a lady, let alone talk to one for a few minutes and find a room. Talk about a sausage party!
So if you are planning a visit around these dates I would suggest definitely arriving early (18:00) having your fun and be prepared to leave if/when the crowds start to arrive.
This will likely be a good money maker for the ladies but for us serrious mongers a time to visit art galleries (or maybe a bordello;-)).
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]...
[url]http://www.berlin2009.org/1-1-home.html[/url]
a big track & field competition taking place in and around the Olympic Stadium in Charlottenburg from 15/08>23/08.
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Thanks Angus,
I really do think it's worth knowing that.
In general, around August 15th I'm in Berlin but, fortunately, not this year.
Even if , in Berlin, I prefer visiting Kamilla-dee, I'm afraid that such big events may have effects on that house too.
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Artemis roof and movie action
Came to A with my friend at 12 am on Sunday. My first visit in Berlin. The place is huge, bigger and I would say nicer than palace in FRA. Ratio was very good in the morning, about 20 girls (most of them fuckable) and about 10 guys. We were worried since here in ISG was mentioned that the whole Berlin is on holiday on August, if that is the case, wonder how is the situtation after holidays.
First had some sauna and swimming, they have a probar swimming pool and nice gym as well. Then hooked up with Patricia from Portugal, burning hot brunette with long long legs. Allways wanted to do it in the sun so up we went to the roof terrace, the weather was hot with clear blue sky. There was maybe 5 other people in the roof and me and my friend with her lady. They have these very comfortable sun chairs that are large enough to enjoy youself at least with 1 lady. That was amazing session with fantastic BBBJ, several position, real GFE with sun in my eyes, never forget this one.
Patricia
Face 9,5
Body 9,5
Service 9,5
Repeat, anytime, I dont do repeats but allmost did with her.
After we went down to the gym and trained an hour or so and had some breakfast.
Hooked up with Bella from Turkey, beautyful blonde, got a long well with her and took her to upstairs kino and did her there. Ok session but nothing special. I did not like the taste of her pussy.
Bella
Face 8
Body 8
Service 7,5
Repeat, no
Left to the city for some time, actually had a thai massage there among other things but no extras or anything so I dont go to details about that.
Came back to A in around 8 pm, had some food, food is ok, not top gourmee quality but better than in most FKKs I have been.
Sauna, swimming and chatting with girls, impossible to estimate the number of girls but at least 50 I would say. Ratio maybe 1:1, no problem of finding beautyful girls.
In around midnight went to the donwstairs kino with Jo from thailand, tall, beautyful thaigirl. Downstairs kino does not have beds like upstairs but sofas, so doing her there was somplicated but I was very pleased, another fantastic session on the same day.
Jo
Face 8
Body 9
Service 9
Repeat, yes, if I would do repeats.
All in all was very impressed about the place, I was happy to find out that girls were willing to do it kino and roof, many girls in Palace say that lets go the room, I dont want to arrange a free show to everybody. I enjoy doing it public and hope that fellow mongerers get something out from the free shows.
My friend and anal and COF with big titted polish blonde, that was 160 € session.
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[QUOTE=Vompat]Came to A with my friend at 12 am on Sunday. My first visit in Berlin. The place is huge, bigger and I would say nicer than palace in FRA. Ratio was very good in the morning, about 20 girls (most of them fuckable) and about 10 guys. We were worried since here in ISG was mentioned that the whole Berlin is on holiday on August, if that is the case, wonder how is the situtation after holidays.
First had some sauna and swimming, they have a probar swimming pool and nice gym as well. Then hooked up with Patricia from Portugal, burning hot brunette with long long legs. Allways wanted to do it in the sun so up we went to the roof terrace, the weather was hot with clear blue sky. There was maybe 5 other people in the roof and me and my friend with her lady. They have these very comfortable sun chairs that are large enough to enjoy youself at least with 1 lady. That was amazing session with fantastic BBBJ, several position, real GFE with sun in my eyes, never forget this one.
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Thanks for the detailed report.
A roof top terrace? This is news. I have never heard mention of this feature before here in the forum. I must try it out sometime if I am ever there in the day time. Is there any shaded area up there? What is it like?
And yes the numbers at Artemis (number of ladies) and quality seems to be holding well this summer season. Good to get some confirmation on this.
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]
A roof top terrace? This is news. I have never heard mention of this feature before here in the forum. I must try it out sometime if I am ever there in the day time. Is there any shaded area up there? What is it like?
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You mean you never heard about the terrace or never heard about action on the terrace? The one and only time I've been in Artemis I find the terrace but not the restaurant hehe. They should have guided tours haha..
[QUOTE=Vompat]
All in all was very impressed about the place, I was happy to find out that girls were willing to do it kino and roof[/QUOTE]
Im very glad that you post this because I did not know that there was possible to have som action on the terrace. Sound like a fun experience. When I was on the terrace I saw som girls on the sunbeds but no action, but it was in the morning and not so many customers. If the weather allows it I will try to get som action on the terrace to in september. Hope its not to coold then..
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Roof terrace
Is not easy to find, you have to go out from bar behdind the pool and climb quite many stairs.
The terrace itshelf is maybe 60 square meters, have about 10 normal sunbeds and 6 - 8 special sunbeds which I think are ment for action, they have some umbrellas on top but otherwise there is no shade.
There is also a shower with cold water in the middle.
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Artemis 08/08/09
I spent the evening at Artemis once again last night. I will not write a full report but I would like to mention that is was quite slow for a Saturday night. There were many many girls to comparatively few men. This meant there were lots of pretty aggressive sellers stalking the bar-a great night to practice the diplomatic turn down of an approach.
I found the roof top patio. Not much action up there. It was probably one of the handful of nights here in Berlin per year when you could comfortably hang out there until maybe 22:00 or 23:00. But in the time I was there there were just a handful of men, one occupied lady and one lady who popped her head up to check out the scene but quickly left.
I am not sure I would want to be up there in full sunshine. I struck me that it could get pretty hot up there.
And I also hooked up with Charlotte, the hot blond I referred to in my last post. She is a nice girl. From Poland, mid 20’s, very blond, very slim with a small tight but and smallish breasts, just starting to hang a bit;-(
We chatted in the lounge for a bit then headed up to a room. It was just past midnight and a couple of keys still were hanging on the board. This tells you that business was really not very good. In the room I had a better than average, but not great, session with Charlotte. Higher than average bj, response from what I was doing to her and lots of movement & enthusiasm during the fucking, especially in missionary when she really moved her hips to my rhythm. The only drawback was that she made it pretty obvious that she did not want kissing.
So not a GFE by any stretch of the imagination but the session flowed well and she was quite interesting to talk to afterward-no rushing to exit the room once we were done. Would I repeat? I Highly likely. I liked the girl and found her very attractive and I felt that a future session might just get a bit higher milage.
All for now.
AM
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Using public transportation to Artemis
I got a quick question.
I'm going to berline next week and certainly stop by Artemis for pleasure.
Since I won't rent a car or don't want to ride a way too expensive taxi, I'm thinking of taking a subway there.
Could someone tell me how to get there by subway?
Your answer will be greatly appreciated!
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[QUOTE=Psycho Project]I got a quick question.
I'm going to berline next week and certainly stop by Artemis for pleasure.
Since I won't rent a car or don't want to ride a way too expensive taxi, I'm thinking of taking a subway there.
Could someone tell me how to get there by subway?
Your answer will be greatly appreciated![/QUOTE]See my report #446 back in Dec '08 further down this thread for details of how to get to Artemis via the S Bahn.
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Re: Using public transportation to Artemis
[QUOTE=Psycho Project]Could someone tell me how to get there by subway?[/QUOTE]
Take the S-Bahn to Westkreuz. Follow the exit signs to Halenseestrasse. Turn left when you reach Halenseestrasse. You'll see Artemis after a short walk.
Also see "how to reach" on Artemis' website. You should be able to find train times trough the DB or VBB links.
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[QUOTE=Psycho Project]I got a quick question.
I'm going to berline next week and certainly stop by Artemis for pleasure.
Since I won't rent a car or don't want to ride a way too expensive taxi, I'm thinking of taking a subway there.
Could someone tell me how to get there by subway?
Your answer will be greatly appreciated![/QUOTE]
Hi,
Detailed from my first time going to Artemis (last November).
[Quote=Angus Magee]
First some practical information and my general impressions of the facility. I found actually getting to Artemis just a wee bit difficult on foot. The nearest S-bahn station, in fact the only real public transit option (I think there is also a bus that stops close to Artemis) is Westkreuz. When I got off the train I looked around for an exit and could not see one. I found a set of stairs but there was some sort of construction going on and for some reason this did not seem to be it. I asked someone, who did not seem to know, but who told me with great certainty that the stairs were not the exit. I then proceeded to wander around the Westkreuz station for about 10 minutes looking for an exit. No luck. As far as I could see the station was in the middle of railway ground and there was no way out! Feeling now a bit existential and wondering if perhaps I should give up and return home, I was actually still at only about 80% yes to this whole enterprise, I decided to use the stairs. The ones that I was told was most definitely not the exit.
This was in fact the only exit to Westkreuz station and it takes you to a parking lot/drop off point right in the middle of railway lands and multilane highways. But from here on it is pretty straight forward road to get to Artemis. You just walk a 100 m. or so and it is really the only place that you can walk to out here except for what looked to be an auto repair facility next door. If you are having difficulties and it is night time just look over your left shoulder as you exit the station and you will see a big red neon light. Head towards that as it is Artemis’ neon sign on top of their building.[/QUOTE]
And for getting to Westkreuz, or anywhere else in Berlin by transit this is a useful link.
[url]http://www.bvg.de/index.php/en/Bvg/Start[/url]
Please remember to write a report as a way of giving back for the info you receive here.
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Did anyone reading visit Artemis last night (Friday 14/08/09) ? Or if you are reading this later in the week, on any day this week?
I am wondering if you could post a short report on how busy the place was. With the the big track and field event happening at the Olympic Stadium is it really, really (crazy) busy later in the evening?
Thanks in advance.
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Did anyone reading visit Artemis last night (Friday 14/08/09) ? Or if you are reading this later in the week, on any day this week?
I am wondering if you could post a short report on how busy the place was. With the the big track and field event happening at the Olympic Stadium is it really, really (crazy) busy later in the evening?
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I did. I was there the whole evening, leaving right after midnight. Not much people, girls were quite desperate for clients. That was my first visit (and this my first posting to the forum).
I was not there today Sat. I might go tomorrow Sunday.
Regards,
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[QUOTE=Alberto99]I did. I was there the whole evening, leaving right after midnight. Not much people, girls were quite desperate for clients. That was my first visit (and this my first posting to the forum).
I was not there today Sat. I might go tomorrow Sunday.
Regards,[/QUOTE]
Hi,
Thanks for the reply. I actually followed my hunch and went Saturday evening. It was really quiet and as you say, not enough clients to keep the girls busy. Things did pick up a bit later in the evening but there were a lot of prowling girls the whole night.
A very low energy night at Artemis. I prefer when there is a bit more of a buzz.
AM
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Anal @ Artemis - how common?
As my post title says: How common is it that the ladies at Artemis offer anal traffic as an add-on service? Can you perhaps recommend a particular lady who offers anal and can take a good pounding?
Also: is it 100 euro extra, or how much?
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[QUOTE=Charles Browne]As my post title says: How common is it that the ladies at Artemis offer anal traffic as an add-on service? Can you perhaps recommend a particular lady who offers anal and can take a good pounding?
Also: is it 100 euro extra, or how much?[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure Ella does anal. And yes it is 100 on top of the regular 60/half hr. room fee.
How common? I think a lot of the girls will do it but do it well? IME anal can be not so good if the girl is just in it for the cash.
There are much cheaper places to get that particular service in Berlin.
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]I'm pretty sure Ella does anal. And yes it is 100 on top of the regular 60/half hr. room fee.
How common? I think a lot of the girls will do it but do it well? IME anal can be not so good if the girl is just in it for the cash.
There are much cheaper places to get that particular service in Berlin.[/QUOTE]
Great point, Angus,
If anal is really somebodies goal, then why not hit the NRW clubs. Tons o' ladies offer it at GT, LR, Bernd's, PHG etc, and some are really good at it. On top of that, it's half the price that it is in the Hessen Clubs or at Artemis.
BTW, Angus, I will probably be floating around the Berlin area toward the end of September. Haven't looked in on Artemis in a while and I'm certainly going to stop by at some point. Hope we can finally meet up.
Cheers,
Dedalus
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[QUOTE=Dedalus]Great point, Angus,
If anal is really somebodies goal, then why not hit the NRW clubs. Tons o' ladies offer it at GT, LR, Bernd's, PHG etc, and some are really good at it. On top of that, it's half the price that it is in the Hessen Clubs or at Artemis.
BTW, Angus, I will probably be floating around the Berlin area toward the end of September. Haven't looked in on Artemis in a while and I'm certainly going to stop by at some point. Hope we can finally meet up.
Cheers,
Dedalus[/QUOTE]
Let me know when you know your exact dates. Hopefully it will be on a week end as week day visits for me at that time are pretty much a no go. I work very early in the morning.
I am also thinking of putting together a little tour of a few of the other clubs in mid to late October. Maybe Oase, Goldentime & Bernds with the esteemed
member Iseeu as my guide.
AM
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Let me know when you know your exact dates. Hopefully it will be on a week end as week day visits for me at that time are pretty much a no go. I work very early in the morning.[/QUOTE]
Will do! I'll try to make a weekend visit work out.
[QUOTE=Angus Magee]
I am also thinking of putting together a little tour of a few of the other clubs in mid to late October. Maybe Oase, Goldentime & Bernds with the esteemed
member Iseeu as my guide.
AM[/QUOTE]
Good guide and a good man. Iseeu knows D'land's clubs as well as anyone here and probably few on this board have as much knowledge and cred when it comes to Bernd's.
Cheers,
Dedalus
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First Time at Artemis
After meeting Cularo at Oase, and returning my Europcar rental at the Frankfurt Hbf, I took an ICE train from Frankfurt to Berlin, which took about 4 hours. The cost was about $84. The scenery was not something that stellar, but the fact that I saw parts of Germany that were under Communism 20 years ago was pretty interesting.
Arrived at the Hauptbanhof, saw the Reichstag and its dome in the distance and hailed a cab. The price from there to my hotel near the Hackescher Markt was 9 euros. I immediately unpacked, took a train from the Hackescher Markt station and rode the S5 line. I had to ask an attendant how to buy a ticket and he taught me how to use a touchscreen kiosk. The cost from that part of the city to Westkreuz station was 2.10 euros.
After arriving at Westkreuz, I climbed the steps that led to Helensaerstraße. One has to take a left after the parking lot on this street in order to go to Artemis, which is about 250 yards from the parking lot.
The cost to get in was 80 euros. I know it is expensive but you only live once (I will even this trip expense out by going to Manila on my next mongering excursion).
Artemis has 3 floors. The basement has a workout area, including free weights and machines, a bar, a swimming pool, jacuzzi, wet and dry saunas, and outdoor patio, which had a barbecue area where a couple of workers were cooking sausages, pork, chicken, and corn on the cob. Also it has about 8 to 10 rooms for intimate encounters and the kino area showing porn movies.
The floor above that, where the entrance is located, includes the shower and locker room area, a large glass-enclosed smoking area that has a bar and stages (this is where most of the girls congregate and look for clients). Above this floor are more rooms for intimate encounters, but you cannot go up there unless you are with a girl.
The cost for a 30 minute session is 60 euros. CIM is 60 euros extras. If you last more than a 30 minute session, it is going to cost you 60 euros more. Drinks, such as whiskeys and beer, cost 10 euros and you have to buy a token at the entrance and bring that to the bar within the smoking area to get your drinks.
The girls were for the most part pretty but you have the handful of normal to ugly looking chicks as well. The cost for a taxi ride from there to my hotel room in the Mitte section of town was 19 euros. I had to take this because the subway system closes from 1 am to 4 am.
The facility of the place was okay but I think World has better because of its large layout. Also, if you are a non-smoker, hanging out at the smoking area where most of the girls sit, will be a total turn-off, at least it was for me. Perhaps management could have the music at the basement bar instead inside of the smoking area bar. Also, the heat inside Artemis was not too bad. I think I must have caught a heat wave in Frankfurt when I was there. The nights turn cool in Berlin, even in August.
With regards to Berlin itself, this is very cultural and historical city. In the past 2 days, I have visited the Gemäldegalerie, Kunstgewerbemuseum, Pergamonmuseum, Altesmuseum, Brandenburg Gate, and Schloss Charlottenburg. The subway system is pretty easy to get around on and the cost is fairly cheap. Also it is a very walkable city because it is very flat. I was able to walk from the Kulturforum section of town to Mitte without having any problem. Of course I stopped at a cafe near the Brandenburg Gate to just look at my fellow tourists while partaking in some cappucino.
If you are into street girls, which I am not, there were some at Oranienburger Straße. I do not know what the cost of these girls or where you and she go for the deed, but a lot of them were pretty hot and did not look like drug addicts. The curious thing is that this street has a number of fine restaurants, all of which had tables outside to take advantage of the nice weather.
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Mi night at Artemis
Hi everybody! I have been lurking for some months and this is my first report.
First of all I want to tell you about my visit to Berlin. Let's start with the Nationalgalerie and then we will move forward to the Museum of German History and the Archeological Museum. The Neue Nationalgalerie (New National Gallery), designed by Mies van der Rohe, houses the collection of 20th century European painting and sculpture. Ranging from early modern art to art of the 1960s, the collection includes works by Munch, Kirchner, Picasso, Klee, Feininger, Dix, Kokoschka, and many others. The collection features a number of unique highlights of..
But maybe you would rather hear about my other experiences in Berlin..?
I was at Artemis twice this last week, and those were my first visits to this FKK, or to any FKK for that matter. I may add that I don't live in Germany. I've heard about Artemis through this very forum and read quite a few reports so that, I knew pretty much everything worth to know when I came there.
The first day, a Friday, I spent there from 4 pm to a bit after midnight. After having changed, I approached the bar in the big lounge, and after a couple of minutes I was approached by a pretty blonde. I assumed she was from Eastern Europe, knowing most of the girls come from those countries, but Amy is (like John Kennedy), a Berliner, from the Eastern part.
A really nice girl, not only a pretty face and a slim body but also a genuinely nice person who made me feel at home. Maybe not a GFE, more like making love to a good friend. I took no extra options and I will not bore you with the details of good old plain vanilla sex, at which Amy was profficient. Can recommend her warmly. She speaks good English and can tell really funny jokes, after the love-making.
I went back to the lounge and enjoyed (an understatement) the sight of the beautiful bodies, my God, I've never seen so many pretty naked bums and tits in my life, except for porn-movies of course. I hope that I will come to a place like that, the day I have to live this earth.
Next girl was Polish, don't remember her name. The experience was far from great, but I would not want to dis-recommend the girl, maybe she would do fine with another guy.
After that, a long, long pause, spent having dinner at the restaurant and chatting with a very interesting guy from Berlin, who told me quite a lot about life there, as well as the city's very eventful past.
After which, the hunt for girl number three started. By this time, I felt a bit tired (I may add that I'm not exactly young anymore), but somehow, after having invested the 80 initial euros, you feel you have to make the most of your visit.
Once more, it was a blonde girl that approached me. Maria, from Rumania but of Hungarian descent. She speaks English, as well as five other languages. Once again, a cheerful lady, warm and friendly. Nice body and a face that is not exactly beautiful but yet very appealing.
This was the most GFE-like experience I had at Artemis. Maria is hot in bed and very attentive to your desires and needs. She offered massage, which I declined (that costs extra, if I remember well). And, after the sex, the conversation flew naturally, without the awkwardness that can be felt at those moments, being in bed with a person you know very little of and not being horny any more.
Two days later, I was back at Westkreuz. This time I knew very well all the procedures. One of the drawbacks of a place like this is, as you know, the constant hasslement of the girls who, of course, as all sales persons, are anxious to get customers. Not their fault. Yet, it made me a bit uncomfortable. After a while you learn to reject them in a polite way, as you of course always should. After all, the least you can do is to be polite when a lady is offering you to share an intimate moment with her, even it the offer is not completely uninterested. And then, I am there for my pleasure while she's doing her job. I respect that.
This time I had a fancy for big, blonde girls. And as luck would have it, I met Sally almost immediately. A tall girl, with big breasts and generous hips. Not chubby, mind you, just a well endowed, beautiful nordic body. A German, she could well pass for a Norwegian. A true valkyria, right from a Wagner's opera, ready to have a Nightly Ride with you, whether you are a Sigfrid or not.
She knows her trade, despite being extremely young, so young indeed that I felt a bit guilty after learning her real age, 21. We did the usual things, BJ, doggy-style, everything went smoothly. My only regret came from having come too soon, which I couldn't help, being so excited by the sight of Sally's naked body under me. I cannot inform you of the eventual additional services she provides, as I never asked. Sally's breasts are her own, at least 90% of them, as she made a tiny operation. Touching them, I couldn't tell they were not 100% natural.
Previously that day, I had seen a girl who looked also like my "target". In fact, Safina was something of a clone of Sally. What I liked in this girl when I saw her at a distance, was her way of joking with a couple of presumtive clients, two Italian guys. She looked relaxed and humorous and a bit mischievous. I like that. Not to mention her body which. Well, I will not talk about Wagner and the Nibelungs again. Rather, I would compare her to Nana Gibson a k a Dina Jewel, the Danish porn-star. And no, I had not had any whisky when I saw her (not willing to spend 10 euros per glass).
If you like blond godesses, Safina is the girl for you. She was a bit less active than Sally in bed but still very cooperative. With her, I had the best doggy-style in years. Especially as we were in one of the rooms that has two mirrors, right by the bed, which allowed me to see her from the front and the sides while I was taking her from behind. Being something of a fetishist, I thoroughly enjoy that. I also like to see the girl from other angles while she is giving me a BJ. God, what splendid rear views.
The 30 minutes with Safina were something of a dream coming true. I left Artemis completely fulfilled, glad of having come a second time, because if the first one was pleasant, the second was bliss.
For GFE, I would choose Amy or Maria. But Sally and Safina, while less warm maybe, have so incredibly sculptural bodies.
All the girls I "went upstairs" with were between 21 and 28. I cannot say I saw any girl in Artemis which I would call ugly. Most of them are very attractive, at least in their attire (which is. Close to none).
Finally, while Artemis was the main reason of my trip, I really enjoyed the city itself. Not only the museums, which I did visit, but also the friendly Berliners and all the cosy restaurants and cafés. I could very well imagine to live in that city (preferrably, of course, in the vicinity of Westkreuz.)
Regards
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[QUOTE=Dedalus]I am also thinking of putting together a little tour of a few of the other clubs in mid to late October. Maybe Oase, Goldentime & Bernds with the esteemed member Iseeu as my guide.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dedalus]Good guide and a good man. Iseeu knows D'land's clubs as well as anyone here and probably few on this board have as much knowledge and cred when it comes to Bernd's. [/QUOTE]
Ded, thanks for the promo. Ur invited to join Angus and myself on Angus' virgin trip of discovery to the wanton pleasures available outside his comfort zone.
Angus- I'm poised, calendar at the ready, just waiting for you to give me the dates. Better yet- just contact my admin since she controls my schedule anyway.
Can't wait.
Iseeu (who's blushing and humbled by all of the kind words and concerned that he won't live up to his stellar rep....)
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Artemis in the news....
... and it ain't good.
One of the German forums I visit regularly has a thread concerning a recent shooting involving one of the managers.
Near as I can make out (reading German is not high on my list of skills) the manager was shot in the calf while outside a cafe on the Ku'damm. The dispute seems to revolve around an ex- Artemis girl named Jasmine.
Here is a link to the newspaper article:
[url]http://www.bz-berlin.de/tatorte/kudamm-schiesserei-das-motiv-ist-blond-article556009.html[/url]
I know this is a bit gossipy but I am interested. Maybe someone with better German skills could give it a read and post a short synopsis.
Thanks
AM
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Artemis in the news
According to the article in BZ a Lebanese guy named Abdallah, 27 years old, was shot three times in his calf in the vicinity of Adenauerplatz at Kudamm. The shooter was a guy named Kenan, a 44 year old Turkish manager at Artemis. According to Kenan it was self-defence since he was attacked with knifes and machetes by Abdallah and two of his friends. According to Kenan he was attacked because he had thrown out from Artemis a prostitute named Jasmin, 25 years old, an earlier girlfriend of Abdallah. According to Abdallah he just wanted to talk with Kenan. It was a question of restoring the honour of Jasmin. Kenan had required sexual services from Jasmin, which she refused. According to the article, Jasmin has backed up Abdallahs story for BZ.
The story interests me too since I have been two times with Jasmin, unless there is another girl named Jasmin working at Artemis. If it the same Jasmin, the last time I saw her was in the middle of July this summer. Sorry I have not written any reports of my explorations at Artemis.
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[QUOTE=Bockenbruse]
The story interests me too since I have been two times with Jasmin, unless there is another girl named Jasmin working at Artemis. If it the same Jasmin, the last time I saw her was in the middle of July this summer. Sorry I have not written any reports of my explorations at Artemis.[/QUOTE]
Many thanks-I just hope that they keep it well clear of Artemis....
No need for that sort of drama at the A.
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Manager at Artemis
I always thought the manager at Artemis was a german guy, circa 50 years old with blond hair and a moustache. I've seen him every time I've been there before, he's also in the Bravo video of Artemis that was posted a while ago on this thread.
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Mac75
[QUOTE=Mac75]I always thought the manager at Artemis was a german guy, circa 50 years old with blond hair and a moustache. I've seen him every time I've been there before, he's also in the Bravo video of Artemis that was posted a while ago on this thread.[/QUOTE]
Maybe Kenad was a manager of Artemis as opposed to the manager at Artemis. There can be a management structure involving more than one person in some organisations. Maybe I am missing the point of what a manager is when someone asks to see the manager. Do they actually mean the CEO or the owner?
I have seen the German man with the blond hair and moustache in Artemis as well. I recognised him from the Bravo documentary as well as from the News.
Regardless, I hope that this affair does not stifle my impending visits to Artemis.
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[QUOTE=Basketcase]Regardless, I hope that this affair does not stifle my impending visits to Artemis.[/QUOTE]
I spoke to one of the girls about this (a very level headed girl) and she told me that they were, or at least the manager in question is, expecting some sort of retaliation. Or rather he is in the constant company of a couple of body guards at the moment.
I am not sure if this will affect business in Artemis. It all seems a bit hush-hush as when we were talking the girl told me that they did not want a lot of gossip about it.
I personally would feel a bit better to see some actually security at the door right now. Not to get too melodramatic about it but I can imagine that some sort of incident at Artemis would be pretty good revenge for these gang types.
Keep your wits about you for the next little while at Artemis and spend as much time as possible in a room upstairs. Not such bad advise at any time.
BTW-Basketcase-when are you planning your visit. If it is towards the end of Sept. maybe we could meet and swap tales. I look forward to you usual in depth reporting in any case.
AM
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[QUOTE=Mac75]I always thought the manager at Artemis was a german guy, circa 50 years old with blond hair and a moustache.[/QUOTE]
He's allowed to look after the girls and the club, but Artemis is owned by Kenan, the guy that fired 3 shots at the Albanian gang. Too bad he aimed to low.
HB
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]
Keep your wits about you for the next little while at Artemis and spend as much time as possible in a room upstairs. Not such bad advise at any time.
AM[/QUOTE]
Next week, I will be visiting Berlin and Artemis was on top of my to do list!
Now, I am indecisive to go or not to go.
Maybe, it would be better to pay this visit next year, when everything settled down.
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Just go to Artemis, business as usual, what should happen? Some Albanians attacking the club?
HB
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[QUOTE=Hessen Bub]Just go to Artemis, business as usual, what should happen? Some Albanians attacking the club?
HB[/QUOTE]Actually there is no mention of Albanians in the news article mentioned below. It only says that the victim's parents are Lebanese.
Falco2
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[QUOTE=Hessen Bub]Just go to Artemis, business as usual, what should happen? Some Albanians attacking the club?
HB[/QUOTE]
These clubs are loaded with security and cameras. Plus they have a locked gate. Ever wonder why these places are never robbed even though there is a ton of cash? Like a casino, it would be suicide.
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Yes C2... one should not go mongering to Berlin without visiting Artemis at least once. Why not go along with the intention of staying just for a few hours. When you get there, see how you feel and perhaps stay for longer. I think you will be safe enough. Look forward to hearing all about your adventures.
Cheers
AronJoseph
[QUOTE=Akibono]These clubs are loaded with security and cameras. Plus they have a locked gate. Ever wonder why these places are never robbed even though there is a ton of cash? Like a casino, it would be suicide.[/QUOTE]
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Artemis is heaven.
If I get shot and die there, I'll be in Heaven. So, I'll take the risk :)
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[QUOTE=Bestwank]Artemis is heaven.
If I get shot and die there, I'll be in Heaven. So, I'll take the risk :)[/QUOTE]
When, or should I say if, I ever find myself standing before the pearly gates and they try to charge me 80 Euros admission, I just hope that that old pearl of wisdom, "You can't take it with you", is wrong.
But seriously, I did not mean to suggest that Albanian gang members are going to show up and shoot up Artemis. I was just noting that this is going on and it does not hurt to be aware of it. As Akibono notes:
[QUOTE=Akibono]These clubs are loaded with security and cameras. Plus they have a locked gate. Ever wonder why these places are never robbed even though there is a ton of cash? Like a casino, it would be suicide.[/Quote]
Though I am not really sure about what you mean by a locked gate. Artemis has no such gate, locked or otherwise. It does have a ton of security cameras though and a number of very large security guards.
All that being said, keep your wits about you is advise that I would give to mongers in any number of situations in which we might find ourselves. I myself can be somewhat naive when it comes to these things. But Artemis is a big club in a big city and its' business is in an area that is traditionally associated with organized crime. Talking with this girl last week, she told me that a number of the girls who work there have "handlers" and the priorities of the club & those of the "handlers" at times do clash. And this may be such a case as I am pretty sure, due to stuff I have read on the German forums, that the story told in the newspaper is not the whole story.
I am not at all sure if this sort of stuff plays itself out in the other clubs. But to pretend that Artemis is the innocent men's playground that it projects itself as, is foolish. IMO
And do not get me wrong. I like Artemis and will continue to go there. Now I have all the more reason though to take a closer look at the girls with whom I end up in the room.
AM (trying not to sound too, too paranoid)
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I will go to Artemis 3-5 September regardless.
It is for sure easier to come home and explain a bullet hole in you, than a veneric disease! :-)
Let's just hope this is end of the story for this time.
Angus, are you planning to go there during that period? I would love to meet such a "senior monger" and hear some good advises.
Blue
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]due to stuff I have read on the German forums, that the story told in the newspaper is not the whole story.[/QUOTE]Hi Angus, could you point me to a good German forum? I have googled the German google trying to find a good one, but have yet to find anything. I can read German good enough.
Also, I hope that this altercation between the owner of Artemis and the other fellows isn't a result of the owner mistreating one of the girls.
Falco
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[QUOTE=Falco2]Hi Angus, could you point me to a good German forum? I have googled the German google trying to find a good one, but have yet to find anything. I can read German good enough.
Also, I hope that this altercation between the owner of Artemis and the other fellows isn't a result of the owner mistreating one of the girls.
Falco[/QUOTE]
Hi,
First I will try to pm you the address (hope you are a full member) as I am never really sure if it is okay to publish addresses of what could be a competing site here on ISG.
As for the rest-I don't think so-though one version I read had him wanting sex from her and her not giving it to him. But we have sunk to the level of gossip & speculation here. My feeling with Artemis is that the girls are treated fairly. That being said, I am sure that there are incidents that happen that could be construed either way.
I vote that we all put this topic to rest and get back to the subject for which this board is really intended-girls.
Edit: Tried to pm-no luck. But here you go.
[url]http://www.verkehrsberichte.de/start/eingang.php[/url]
Be advised, I had great trouble signing up to this site but finally managed without going through the dammed age check thing which wants cc details.
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[QUOTE=Blue Swede]I will go to Artemis 3-5 September regardless.
It is for sure easier to come home and explain a bullet hole in you, than a veneric disease! :-)
Let's just hope this is end of the story for this time.
Angus, are you planning to go there during that period? I would love to meet such a "senior monger" and hear some good advises.
Blue[/QUOTE]
It is doubtful that I will be at Artemis in early Sept.. Have to fill the coffers.
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Hi,
[url]http://www.verkehrsberichte.de/start/eingang.php[/url]
Be advised, I had great trouble signing up to this site but finally managed without going through the dammed age check thing which wants cc details.[/QUOTE]Wow, too tough for me. What a maze.
Thanks anyway!
falco
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[QUOTE=Falco2]Hi Angus, could you point me to a good German forum? I have googled the German google trying to find a good one, but have yet to find anything. I can read German good enough.[/QUOTE]
[url]www.lustscout.to/wbboard[/url]
And don't worry, there will be enough security guys around at Artemis, even if you don't spot them.
HB
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[QUOTE=Hessen Bub][url]www.lustscout.to/wbboard[/url]
HB[/QUOTE]Thanks Hessen Bub.
Gruss,
Falco
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[QUOTE=Falco2]Wow, too tough for me. What a maze.
Thanks anyway!
falco[/QUOTE]
Hi,
Yeah but this forum is the best I have found (excluding ISG of course) for Berlin specific information. There are others, HB's link & a couple of other Berlin forums, but they are either not Berlin related or very inactive. The link I posted has a good database of older reports and many reports posted daily. So it is worth a bit of effort.
I am sorry that I do not remember the specific sequence of events that lead to me being able to sign up. I do remember that the first time I found this forum was late at night (or rather early in the morning) and I was allowed to register without the age guard. I then understood that I would only be able to access the forum in the wee hours of the morning. But with in a day or so, after accessing the forum at 3:00-4:00 a.m., I had access at all hours. It was all kind of strange.
But as I say, if you are interested in Berlin reports, this is worth some extra effort.
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Artemis - just OK
Visited Artemis during my be trip to berlin last week.
Thanks to Angus who provided the direction detail.
The club was much bigger than the one in Frankfurt, with 3 floors having sauna, swimming pool, porn theater, gym and so forth on ground floor, smoking room where most girls are and dining area on 1st floor and rooms on 2nd floor. However, I liked the FKK Palace in Frankfurt much better since I didn't like the smoking atmostphere in Artemis, and the Palace was much cozier.
More choice for girls, though, in Artemis. More than 50 girls.compared with 30 girls in Palace.
Wherever you go FKK, there are some beautiful, blond, hot body sharks from eastern europe who would come to you simply saying if you wanted to fuck them. They don't try to get to know you or at least try to start conversation with you. They just want to have quick sex and make easy money.
Anyways, I talked to some ladies. Usually tiny, I mean less popular girls come to you and initiate talks. Could not find the one I really liked.
Later, it was almost getting clost to 5 am, so I was in a hurry and chose one from Spain. Forgot her name. Tall, blond, nice body, fake C-cup boobs.
We went up to the room and I wanted to kiss her, but she refused it. That sucked. Her BJ was very good, though.
I spent about 20 minutes with her. Was ok, but not very satisfactory.
I'm going to Denmark in October, and I guess I will stop by Frankfurt to transfer the flight. I'd like to go back to the Palace.
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Mid Week-26/08/09-Artemis Visit
So grabbed my flak jacket, dusted of my uzi and headed out yesterday for an unprecedented mid-week, mid day visit to Artemis as an end of summer (start work today) blow out.
Arrival at 14:00 and all was quiet. Very few men and a few more ladies lounging around in the bar looking for an early hit but without much enthusiasm. But it only takes one and upon my arrival, in the shower without my much needed glasses, I thought I spied a favorite of mine who I had not seen in a while, early summer I think, headed upstairs. So I went to the bar, ordered a Milch Cafe and sat, fending of all advances from the above mentioned unenthusiastic afternoon shift.
It was Wednesday-Dessous Day- at Artemis. I know this to be not such a popular concept to most FKK enthusiasts but as something new I kind of liked seeing the girls in their bikinis & underwear. I guess one does have to be a bit more careful on Dessous Day as I noticed at least one girl who was wearing a push-up bra that I was sure would be hiding a seriously sag-y pair of boobs. But in general, as long as it isn’t an everyday occurrence I had no problem with the girls in their frillies.
Time to head to the sauna and I saw the girl I was interested in finishing up at the cash lockers and heading for the showers. Downstairs I had my bio sauna (very nice when there are no others there and the door has been closed for some time) and waited.
And waited.
I was not really worried but It did take the lady in question an age to reappear. I did an exploratory walk, grabbed my book and headed down again to wait. Finally, an hour later she appears and is taking a massage from one of the massage guys.
More waiting.
Finally she is finished and over she comes.
Vivian is from Slovakia, mid 20’s, small breasts and very slim, dark long hair. Very pretty eyes. I have reviewed her before many months back so I will not get detailed except to say it was a very good session. Real GFE for old Angus. A long, long pre-session cuddle/chat/flirt (the advantage of the afternoon) and then off to the room where Angus persuaded her pretty little quim to positively ooze creamy secretions with his tongue before accepting a long leisurely bj ending in the inevitable. No cim which was fine for me from the perspective of price. I am not sure if she does cim as it has never come up before. In the past we have always finished with a fuck.
Doggy. Lovely!
By this time the evening was upon Artemis and the evening shift was arriving bring with it some much needed talent and energy. I rested, lounged, had a few chats with hopefuls and generally passed the time well. The dining room was closed today and instead the outside grill/dining area was in full operation. I have say it was some of the best food I have had at Artemis. The Germans certainly do grilled meats well with the trimmings-potatoe salad (ordinary but good), green salad (likewise) filling out the plate.
While in line I spotted Samira (not 100% sure of the name but it is close) a mid twenties German of Turkish extraction. We had a glance in the grill line up and then another couple of looks while we ate at separate tables.
This girl is HOT. Small very athletic stature, dark skin, big dark eyes, just past the shoulder jet black hair, big lips, flat stomach, one very small, tasteful and extremely well done tattoo in an unusual place, a sort of dirty, smirky look mixed with just the right amount of faux-innocence.
Angus was in love.
After diner, teeth brushed, I was staking out what has become my favorite hang out to meet the girls-on the platform beds at the bottom of the stairs (it is a terrible place to meet the girls guys, don’t use it) and who should appear?
Angus smiled, Samira sashayed over and melted into his arms for our get to know you chat & cuddle.
Beautiful & also nice to talk to. I just love it when you meet a girl at an FKK who seems to know the rules of engagement and also seems to enjoy to play the game.
Soon enough we were on they way to our honeymoon suite and what followed lived up to my highest expectations of the girl. She was responsive with just the right amount of GFE mixed with PSE. And this girl as an ass on her that I could worship all night.
Was I satisfied?
Would I repeat?
Do you really have to ask? I’m ready to marry the girl;-))
But I managed to stay with a half hour again-next time, if there is a next time as she is not such regular girl at Artemis, living out of town and spending just a week or so a month at the club, I think it will be more.
It was still early and I had two session under my belt.
Should I leave?
I decided to stick around and spent the next few hours mildly snoozing ( I have developed a bit of a reputation among the girls I know for this) , girls chatting me up and in the sauna & pool.
A word here about fave girls if you will.
My history with mongering has always been a new girl every time-until recently that is. Especially with my movement into the FKK scene I have enjoyed being a regular with a number of girls. But I am finding it also has a downside-being a regular.
Many of you might think me an fool but I do tend to get a little bit emotionally involved with the girls I see regularly. By this I simply mean that they become important to me and I do want them to-well-like me. As a result I have been known to go to the room with a regular girl more on her whim than on mine. Foolish I know but there you have it. And I see this about myself-the wanting/needing to be liked for a bit more than just my wallet. I am not (I don’t think anyway) a big fool but it is there.
Where am I going with this? Well last night I swore up & down that I would not do this. I would go with who I wanted to just because I wanted it. This is after all P4P-and I can imagine some of my esteemed colleges rolling their eyes at this.
Anyway the first girl in question, who I have probably been to the rooms with more than any other girl at Artemis, save one who is no longer working, saw me on the bed platforms and came down for a chat. The last time I had visited I had not been to the room with her and I guess she was sensing a bit of a pull back from me but when she came to me she was very friendly and cuddly and kiss-y.
Nice.
After about 15 minutes she told me she had to get back to work and that she knew I was still in recovery from my last session and that she would love to see me later-if another girl did not drag me off to the room first.
Well-I simply fell in love with her (I use the term “love” loosely) at this and it was all I could do not to drag her off to the room for this. She is a very smart (emotionally smart too-something that I am not always) girl and, I feel, very much in tune with her customers (well me anyway). Maybe to the point of playing me a bit? I don’t really know but I do know that I will session again with her sometime.
Again I considered going but I felt I had one more session in me tonight. Not wanting to end on a down note I wanted to chose wisely. There was one girl I had an eye on, a lovely tall, skinny Bulgarian. The trouble was that she also happens to be very chummy with the aforementioned girl and another Bulgarian girl, with whom I have been to the room ( and very much enjoyed) but who I find a wee bit clingy-and have sort of, well not sort of, actually really been avoiding.
They are stuck together like little school of fish. I never see just one of them, alway the three. Swimming in unison.
As I didn’t have the heart, or maybe didn’t have the balls, to just boldly go up to the three and choose the tall, unexplored one, I decided to take the only course of action available-no action. The pathless path grasshopper.
It was a bit of a wait but finally I did see girl number one disappear to a room. Then girl number two went and tall girl number three is alone on a couch. Get up to swoop-and I am cut off at the pass by asshole guy number 1 in a beige robe.
And before I know it they are off to the room.
Shit.
But then, not long after she appears again at the bottom of the stairs and is off to the showers. Not a good sign really. Way too short a session. Maybe she is shark! But she does not look like one ( a shark) and my intuition tells me....
Back at my post I am in major indecision mode. To go?To stay? Is she a shark? But she keeps some good company-girl number one-and despite what many think I seem to have good luck with Bulgarian girls.
And then she is coming down the stairs-alone-and she sweeps into the kino, only to appear in two minutes-still alone and walks towards the wellness room....a smile is given...returned...and she is folding her long lanky body sensuously against mine and asking the usual questions in German until we discover that we both speak better English...a shy little kiss....and what’s you name?
Connie
A few more minutes small talk and then Angus suggests we go to the room...well played Connie....upstairs?
No those are all full.
A silent pray of thanks from Angus as he realizes that down in the less private, but still acceptable Kino room there will be less of a chance of running into girls # 1 or #2 (wimp) on the way up to the rooms.
In the room Connie does not disappoint. She is actually a very sweet girl. Probably early 20’s tall-5’7”in bare feet, over 6’ in her hooker heels.-very slim, small, small ass-but round, small breasts but big nipples, slightly unconventionally pretty face. I guess I would say that she has a sort of runway model look to her. You know the type who are not really pretty for some reason but still have something.
And she kisses like s daemon. Snaky liquid tongue that Angus quickly discovers is pierced as she lustily heads down towards little A to make his acquaintance.
69?
Of course-as Connie unfolds her impossibly long legs and plants a fleshy plump pussy directly on Angus’ tongue while making a slurp-y noise that I am sure could be heard above the noise of the kino playing in the next room as she drools wetly on Angus’ balls.
Yes this girl can deliver a good bj and probably the first time I have experienced a tongue ring as anything other than annoying and even painful. Maybe the secret is lots of saliva as Connie spares no expense in the saliva department, soaking my balls and the towel beneath.
Came time to try a bit of fucking but little A was not as enthusiastic about this. He was hard enough but I could tell it would be a long hard slog to the finish this way, even in doggy with Connie’s small butt and winking asshole staring me in the face and her voice urging me on to “fick mich”.
So I lay back and told her to finish in the mouth. The hell with the expense.
No regrets. She did an excellent job, giving me total fantasy porn style bj complete with some spitting, well utilized hand action, face rubbing, ball licking & sucking, tongue slapping, cheek bulging and dick popping-when the girl creates some suction around your dick and then lets it pop out of her mouth. It not so much feels good-though it does feel good- as it is funny as hell. And she took her time about the whole thing too, using just enough of our half hour together to allow for a few minutes-I think were were a tiny bit overtime-of cuddling with some laughs at the end.
So Connie from Bulgaria gets top marks from Angus. A fun, funny and lovely girl. I have to say that I love a girl who surprises me and Connie did that. I had her pegged as a sort of serious “I’m too sexy for my...” type girl who would be a bit of an “optifick” for me. That she turned out to be such fun was a complete surprise. I would love to spend a whole weekend in bed with Connie.
Repeat? Oh yes.
After Connie it was home Angus and to bed for a well deserved rest.
Thanks all for reading.
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]
Many of you might think me an fool but I do tend to get a little bit emotionally involved with the girls I see regularly. By this I simply mean that they become important to me and I do want them to-well-like me. As a result I have been known to go to the room with a regular girl more on her whim than on mine. Foolish I know but there you have it. And I see this about myself-the wanting/needing to be liked for a bit more than just my wallet. I am not (I don’t think anyway) a big fool but it is there.
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Well-I simply fell in love with her (I use the term “love” loosely) at this and it was all I could do not to drag her off to the room for this. She is a very smart (emotionally smart too-something that I am not always) girl and, I feel, very much in tune with her customers (well me anyway). Maybe to the point of playing me a bit? I don’t really know but I do know that I will session again with her sometime.[/QUOTE]
Great report Angus.
Regarding the above quote, I have to say I'm just the same with one particular girl in Palace, FFM. I can go with her several times in a night, and I always spend extra time with her after we're done with the sex itself. I enjoy cuddling her and just talking to her. It may sound pathetic, but I guess I have some feelings for her. And she displays quite some affection for me as well.
So, what is absolutely killing me, is not knowing whether any of this is genuine on her part, or if is just a show put on for extracting more money out of me. A girl with enough "human skills" (or whatever one should call it) will certainly be able to pick up on the subtleties of what a customer wants, be they purely sexual or otherwise. If the guy doesn't totally repulse her for some reason, she can play of this, and - doing it well enough - ensure herself a regular customer who will be spending lots of money on her services. And if the guy just wants to spend some affectionate and quiet time with her, it should be easy money on her part.
I take some comfort in that one time we were kissing each other goodbye and exchanging warm words when I was leaving after a weekend visit, she explained to me how she always tried to keep customers at arms length emotionally. I.e. she was implying that I was getting to her at some level.
Yeah, it IS pathetic, I know...
Ozzy
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]A word here about fave girls if you will.
My history with mongering has always been a new girl every time-until recently that is. Especially with my movement into the FKK scene I have enjoyed being a regular with a number of girls. But I am finding it also has a downside-being a regular.
Many of you might think me an fool but I do tend to get a little bit emotionally involved with the girls I see regularly. By this I simply mean that they become important to me and I do want them to-well-like me. As a result I have been known to go to the room with a regular girl more on her whim than on mine. Foolish I know but there you have it. And I see this about myself-the wanting/needing to be liked for a bit more than just my wallet. I am not (I don’t think anyway) a big fool but it is there.
Where am I going with this? Well last night I swore up & down that I would not do this. I would go with who I wanted to just because I wanted it. This is after all P4P-and I can imagine some of my esteemed colleges rolling their eyes at this.
[/QUOTE]Nice insights Angus. I suppose the optimal solution is to find "regulars" that are so hot that you always want to see them. If you get emotionally attached just a bit, then it's probably mutual, and then the sessions should just get better and better no? Don't hold back! I don't get to visit FKK's that often, but when I go, I stay for at least a week, and normally visit one place! Crazy eh? But then after a day or two, the girls will chat amongst themselves about you and hopefully say nice things, and this can work nicely in your favor. And subsequent sessions with the same gal (if she's hot) just get better and better.
But finding the *nice* hot ones... that is the challenge.
falco
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[QUOTE=Ozzy Ozzman]Great report Angus.
So, what is absolutely killing me, is not knowing whether any of this is genuine on her part, or if is just a show put on for extracting more money out of me. A girl with enough "human skills" (or whatever one should call it) will certainly be able to pick up on the subtleties of what a customer wants, be they purely sexual or otherwise. If the guy doesn't totally repulse her for some reason, she can play of this, and - doing it well enough - ensure herself a regular customer who will be spending lots of money on her services. And if the guy just wants to spend some affectionate and quiet time with her, it should be easy money on her part.
Ozzy[/QUOTE]Hi Ozzy, the way I see it, is that when I really connect with a provider, and see her on a regular basis, it just gets better. If they feel they want to see you outside of the club, they will let you know somehow. From their point of view, they would prefer to spend their time with someone they like, that treats them with respect, because you have to know that a lot of the men in this business do not treat them with respect.
I have'nt lived in Europe for several years now, and so my mongering days are much fewer in number. I reckon the issues you mention are ones I would love to have!
Falco
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I like your report
Well, there is a really easy way, which I always try, to see if a girl is really into you emotionally.
Just ask a girl out before or after work for a drink or a cup of coffee.
Forget about the regulations or whatever people say it's against the policy to have external relationship with customers.
I tend to be just like you having some feelings for ladies working at night, but I don't really get confused much as I used to be.
Wish you a good luck. Nice person does deserve it!
[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Many of you might think me an fool but I do tend to get a little bit emotionally involved with the girls I see regularly. By this I simply mean that they become important to me and I do want them to-well-like me. As a result I have been known to go to the room with a regular girl more on her whim than on mine. Foolish I know but there you have it. And I see this about myself-the wanting/needing to be liked for a bit more than just my wallet. I am not (I don’t think anyway) a big fool but it is there.
Where am I going with this? Well last night I swore up & down that I would not do this. I would go with who I wanted to just because I wanted it. This is after all P4P-and I can imagine some of my esteemed colleges rolling their eyes at this.
Anyway the first girl in question, who I have probably been to the rooms with more than any other girl at Artemis, save one who is no longer working, saw me on the bed platforms and came down for a chat. The last time I had visited I had not been to the room with her and I guess she was sensing a bit of a pull back from me but when she came to me she was very friendly and cuddly and kiss-y.
Nice.
After about 15 minutes she told me she had to get back to work and that she knew I was still in recovery from my last session and that she would love to see me later-if another girl did not drag me off to the room first.
Well-I simply fell in love with her (I use the term “love” loosely) at this and it was all I could do not to drag her off to the room for this. She is a very smart (emotionally smart too-something that I am not always) girl and, I feel, very much in tune with her customers (well me anyway). Maybe to the point of playing me a bit? I don’t really know but I do know that I will session again with her sometime.
Again I considered going but I felt I had one more session in me tonight. Not wanting to end on a down note I wanted to chose wisely. There was one girl I had an eye on, a lovely tall, skinny Bulgarian. The trouble was that she also happens to be very chummy with the aforementioned girl and another Bulgarian girl, with whom I have been to the room ( and very much enjoyed) but who I find a wee bit clingy-and have sort of, well not sort of, actually really been avoiding.
They are stuck together like little school of fish. I never see just one of them, alway the three. Swimming in unison.
As I didn’t have the heart, or maybe didn’t have the balls, to just boldly go up to the three and choose the tall, unexplored one, I decided to take the only course of action available-no action. The pathless path grasshopper.
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[quote=ozzy ozzman]great report angus.
regarding the above quote, i have to say i'm just the same with one particular girl in palace, ffm. i can go with her several times in a night, and i always spend extra time with her after we're done with the sex itself. i enjoy cuddling her and just talking to her. it may sound pathetic, but i guess i have some feelings for her. and she displays quite some affection for me as well.
so, what is absolutely killing me, is not knowing whether any of this is genuine on her part, or if is just a show put on for extracting more money out of me. a girl with enough "human skills" (or whatever one should call it) will certainly be able to pick up on the subtleties of what a customer wants, be they purely sexual or otherwise. if the guy doesn't totally repulse her for some reason, she can play of this, and - doing it well enough - ensure herself a regular customer who will be spending lots of money on her services. and if the guy just wants to spend some affectionate and quiet time with her, it should be easy money on her part.
i take some comfort in that one time we were kissing each other goodbye and exchanging warm words when i was leaving after a weekend visit, she explained to me how she always tried to keep customers at arms length emotionally. i.e. she was implying that i was getting to her at some level.
yeah, it is pathetic, i know...
ozzy[/quote]
hummm....i would say proceed with caution. or is it damn the tor****s? i guess it depends on your capacity for heartbreak.
is she playing you? it could be that she is but that there is also a genuine element there. ime these things are not mutually exclusive.
sometimes i think that women are much, much better at separating the emotional from the practical than are men. maybe she likes you but she also sees the practical benefits of keeping you on an emotional hook? thus the comment. not that it was calculated on her part but there may be some unconscious emotional game playing going on.
my advise is to not worry so much about how genuine she is (this we can never really know about another) and take a look at how genuine are your feeling towards her.
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Is this love.
Human beings go through a bunch of psychological gates (typically subconsciously) when evaluating a serious relationship. Passing through each one leads to a deeper level until we become so emotionally attached that we feel we can not live without the other. Most call this love and it is rarely reached.
Unfortunately, most girls never reach this state with a client. They may like him and appreciate his company when times are slow in the club. They may also appeciate the attention and money the guy lavishes on her, but this is just a human being that enjoys the ego boost. Don't we all?
Factors which suggest that a girl really loves you are:
1) does she plan to leave the business soon? If so, she is looking for a source of stablity.
2) how compatible are you? If there is a big age difference, a diffference is culture, big physical difference (does she have to move to be with you?), and a big difference in looks (beauty and the beast relationships are rare), then there is less a change of love. Money and attention makes up alot for looks, but they can not substitute for mutual attraction. And that is dependent on whether the girl can envision marrying you.
3) does she have other relationship in the form of clients and boyfriends? Some girls are naturally affectionate. You may not be that special person. In other words, what other prospects does the girl have?
As said in an Indian Jones movie: "cover the heart Indy." Many a punter have gotten duped into giving money and marriage proposals to ladies who will string them along.
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[QUOTE=Psycho Project]Well, there is a really easy way, which I always try, to see if a girl is really into you emotionally.
Just ask a girl out before or after work for a drink or a cup of coffee.
Forget about the regulations or whatever people say it's against the policy to have external relationship with customers.
I tend to be just like you having some feelings for ladies working at night, but I don't really get confused much as I used to be.
Wish you a good luck. Nice person does deserve it![/QUOTE]
Hi,
I get just as confused as I used to but it does not last as long-the confusion that is.
My last exploration into taking it out of the FKK worked well-for about two weeks. Then it hit the wall big time. It had me in an emotional stew for a month or so (I was still heading of to Artemis so it wasn't that bad) but now the stew is more or less over except for the occasional twinge.
The girl in question (not Bulgarian girl # 1 BTW) was very open-until suddenly she wasn't. And she really effectively cut off communication. But then I have to remember that she is only in her mid twenties. I seem to remember that when I was that age that is pretty much how I used to handle situation when I just did not want to deal with them.
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Many strange things can happen!
Angus McGee, these girls do sometimes fall for punters. They are only human. One time, a stripper/hooker fell for me and everytime I came in she would ignore all the other customers for hours. Then started giving me her real name and phone#, invited me to her place for New Years, etc., etc. Another time a chick liked me so much that she did not even charge me for services.
Most of the time it's just an act though. I guess we should just look at ourselves honestly and ask if such a girl would normally go for guys like us.
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Berlin vs Frankfurt
Lads,
Had recent visit to Frankfurt, which opened my eyes re the Artemis scene here in Berlin. Both the Palace and Oase (75 and 65 Eur entrance, with 50 for 30 minutes of thrills and chills) vs 80 and 60 for Artemis. Staff of all tastes every where (they seem to rotate thru the FKK scene, including some from Artemis.
But that's only the beginning, as both the food and facilities are really much much better in the Rhein Mein. Oase in particular spent a lot on refurbishment. However, as much of the appeal is the summer garden scene, this is less compelling past Sept. But they have a proper jacuzzi, heated, powerful water jets, vs. the ice bath in Artemis. Palace has really nice rooms, little touches like a reading area that is well lit, with international newspapers, self contained smoking areas vs the main room, and really good food.
In short, Artemis is well short of these levels of service, while being more expensive. I will stick more and more to the private apts in Berlin. Like you all I have a few Artemis favs - but really, you should see the competion. And I think that's the problem-in Frankfurt there are 3 options (with World also). In Berlin, only 1.
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Artemis -- Night 1, Part I
I flew into Berlin on important business and was met at Tegel by a government official in a Mercedes. Mindful of my duties, I nevertheless carefully set aside time to pop my FKK cherry at Artemis. I am a long-time lurker at ISG, now I would like to thank all you punters and give something back. This was some months ago, sorry for the delay in reporting.
I must say I had never seen 4 stories of *****house before and was impressed upon walking up to the place. I noticed it was just in front of a tire shop – I wonder how the guys inside focus on their jobs.
How amusing to walk in off the street and, as soon as you open the door, you see naked hot chicks in high heels and just behind them, through the archway, guys in the shower washing off their pubic regions. Meanwhile the chicks by the small lockers are sticking out their hands to guys who are giving them wads of cash.
The harsh older woman behind the counter gruffly asked me if I had been there before, and abruptly explained the rules to me. She reminded of the villain with the spike in her shoe in the Bond film “From Russia with Love.” (She was widely rumored, I later found out, to have worked in the East German Stasi in the 1980s). After I forked over my cash, she snapped at one of her lackeys who brought me a robe.
I ventured inside, anxious to release pent-up cum and hopefully get a good bbbj, my favorite thing in the world.
General Impressions
Artemis is more run down than the website shows, but my main complaints are that there is way too much smoke in the main bar area, and that the place is overpriced. It is nonetheless a fantastic FKK on a Thursday night. I love blondes and the place was full of them. About 75% were do-able. There is good Kino action and the food is passable, with a nice pool downstairs. It is amusing to stand at the bottom of the big stair case and watch the hookers and clients go upstairs – I watch a girl with a nice ass go up, and imagine how I would stick my tongue up it! And some guys coming down look pretty satisfied.
As I looked around I got increasingly horned up and pitched a tent in my bathrobe as I watched a guy spread a hot chick’s legs in the upstairs Kino and thrust into her while she was moaning and groaning. Finally a stunning brunette with long flowing hair and an hourglass figure came up to me and held my hand, and started chatting with me. She pressed her all natural breasts against me and I felt like I was going to explode pretty soon. Many girls have told me I cum with a huge load (my reason for mentioning this will become clear in a moment).
Session
The girl was a 28 yr old Hungarian. She was very pleasant and talkative. We went upstairs and all the rooms were full, the place was hopping! I love watching all the johns and hookers jockey for position. Finally a key was available and we walked down the long hall. Doors were opening and closing, I could see one punter with 2 girls go into a room, and hot naked chicks were coming and going. Once in the room, my robe flew off and we started smooching and standing naked pressing up against each other while my woody was throbbing. She pushed me on the bed and I started sucking her perfect rack, while my pulse raced. I was really keyed up!
She wanted to get right to my stick. While I laid back, I got exactly what I had come for -- without hesitation or stopping, she started giving extreme deep throat, saliva dripping all over my rod and balls. She could use her tongue to tighten my dick in her throat and kept taking it to the end of the shaft. She must have had a Ph.D in blowjobs from the University of Budapest, graduation magna cum laude. I thought “god, I cannot last much longer” while the pent up cum of the last few months was welling up.
Suddenly I could not contain myself, and right when she had my rod at it deepest down her warm throat, I blasted off half a gallon of load. Her head shot up, great gobs of white liquid spewing out of her mouth, choking like hell. She dove for the trash can next to the bed and grabbed it by the rim, more cum spitting into the pail while she was hacking so hard the veins in the side of the neck stood out. I wasn’t sure if I should call 9-1-1. She glared at me, “You! You . . .!” she cried out, still coughing. Then suddenly she came at me, and with both hands tried to choke me!
Once I pried the girl’s hands off my neck, I explained to her that the whole thing was not my fault. She did eventually calm down, however I unfortunately had to pay the extra fee for CIM.
Incidentally, I saw this girl the next night I was in Artemis. She was in her street clothes with a duffel bag. She had told me after our session that she decided to leave Germany and go back home. I went after her in my bathrobe, hoping to get more deep throat, but she wouldn’t talk to me or even stop.
NEXT: Night #1, Part II
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[QUOTE=Rocketboy0]Lads,
Had recent visit to Frankfurt, which opened my eyes re the Artemis scene here in Berlin. Both the Palace and Oase (75 and 65 Eur entrance, with 50 for 30 minutes of thrills and chills) vs 85 and 60 for Artemis. Staff of all tastes every where (they seem to rotate thru the FKK scene, including some from Artemis.
But that's only the beginning, as both the food and facilities are really much much better in the Rhein Mein. Oase in particular spent a lot on refurbishment. However, as much of the appeal is the summer garden scene, this is less compelling past Sept. But they have a proper jacuzzi, heated, powerful water jets, vs. the ice bath in Artemis. Palace has really nice rooms, little touches like a reading area that is well lit, with international newspapers, self contained smoking areas vs the main room, and really good food.
In short, Artemis is well short of these levels of service, while being more expensive. I will stick more and more to the private apts in Berlin. Like you all I have a few Artemis favs - but really, you should see the competion. And I think that's the problem-in Frankfurt there are 3 options (with World also). In Berlin, only 1.[/QUOTE]
It is true that Artemis could do with some improvement in the areas you mention. And for the moment it is all we have here in Berlin. I would love it if another FKK were to open up somewhere near by and provide Artemis with some incentive to clean up its' act.
IMO the food could be much better (more thought put into what one really wants to eat while mongering for one) and perhaps a better filter system for the bar upstairs. I very much like the idea of a reading room as well.
But for me the girls are still the main pull and what i would most like to see is a frequent flyer plan that does not ask you to put out 800 Euros up front to receive a discount on the entrance fee for frequent visits.
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Great report M One. I'll wait until you post the follow up and then enshrine it in the RoD thread.
[QUOTE=Marine One]
Incidentally, I saw this girl the next night I was in Artemis. She was in her street clothes with a duffel bag. She had told me after our session that she decided to leave Germany and go back home. I went after her in my bathrobe, hoping to get more deep throat, but she wouldn’t talk to me or even stop.[/QUOTE]
I was going to ask you for the name of the girl in question but I guess that is immaterial now. Maybe she will be back once the memory wears off but I doubt that she will be quite so enthusiastic with her DT skills in future.
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Night Cat posted this report from Artemis in the Berlin thread:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=922828&postcount=1720[/url]
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Artemis -- Night 2, Part I
This follows my report below, my first night at Berlin when I got BBBJCITWCS (BBBJ cum in throat with choking and spitting). Sorry I forgot the girl's name.- unfortunately for all of us I think she quit the profession.
Now I was a little more relaxed after having released some load, and I headed back to the main lounge, which was humming. A lot of nice asses, and some girls were dancing on the pole. The atmosphere was intoxicating.
Then I spotted the hottest young chick, short but so well proportioned.. Her huge natural rack stood out against her lithe and thin body, and hard abs and ass cheeks. She was only wearing high heels and one of those little chains that go around the hips. She had cute dirty blonde wavy hair. I think she was a Czech, about 25.
She saw me staring at her and came up to chat. "So, what are you doing in Berlin? " I said "I'm here on business." She said "So am I! " That was funny.
Soon we dashed to a room upstairs. We started DFK and she seemed really into it, I would swear she liked me. I sucked on her hot rack, which she loved. I also licked the hell out of her hard ass, no problem for her. Then she pushed me back for BBBJ and started slurping away. The only problem was – I don't know if it's because she was a small girl – but she couldn't seem to get my dick into her mouth very well, and kept raking me with her teeth. I flipped her around to 69 to put my tongue back up her ass while she was slurping on my stick, but she was so short it was hard to reach.
I had to stop her BBBJ, so then she put a dome on me and we started to go at it cowgirl, with her tit going right into my mouth so I could suck her nipple hard! Fearing a premature load, I turned her over for mish. We were on one of those beds with the mirror right next to it. I looked over approvingly, and watched her milk jugs bounce back and forth, while I thrust into her hips, and she was groaning "oh yeah baby, yes, yes! " (I thought I missed my real calling, to be in pornos perhaps).
Then she started saying into my ear "come in my mouth! " She kept begging, "finish in my mouth OK? " But I remembered her teeth raking, and ignored the request, and after a few minutes shot a load into her while I had her knees pinned up to her shoulders.
Shortly after throwing 50E at the girl, I glanced at my watch and thought of my meetings the next day. I quickly changed and ran to Westkreuz, and caught the last train into the city at 5 minutes to midnight.
I also saw this girl the next night. She spotted me in the lounge and grabbed my arm. She was pulling me with all her might toward one of the rooms. I have met large men who cannot pull someone like that, it took all of my strength to stop her. It was making a scene and others were looking at us! It was difficult to get rid of her – but I wanted to try some other SPs.
NEXT: Atremis Part II (my second night, after other business in Berlin was concluded!)
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Artemis -- Part II, my final night
I walked into Artemis on a Saturday night, and felt like blowing a load. Looking around, I could see that the waters were shark infested, but at least there was plenty of eye candy. There was action everywhere; in the main lounge, thick with smoke, guys were disappearing behind the curtains on the beds around behind the couches. I saw girls reaching into guys’ robes in the downstairs Kino, which got my juices flowing. Soon I headed for the upstairs Kino and noticed a tall, dyed-blonde girl with long legs and a firm looking ass go to the front couch with a guy. The girl quickly pulled his long pole out of his bathrobe went down on it. Her head bobbed up and down for what seemed like half an hour, tirelessly. Eventually she stopped, reached for a paper towel, and spat into it. She cheerfully laughed and joked with the guy as they headed for the lockers.
Session #1
A short while later I saw the same girl alone, so started to chat her up. She was Polish, 25, very well proportioned, and spoke good English. We headed upstairs. Once in private, she continued to show the same great attitude, doing DFK and then getting down on her knees so I could lick her dirty bunghole. Soon I was on my back and she gave a flawless BBBJ. Then we did doggy, followed by mish with her legs pinned way back. Finally as I was about to come, I flipped over and she took the dome off my tool and resumed BBBJ. Soon I let a huge load right into her mouth. She didn’t miss a drop, and after I was done she spit it all into a napkin. Then we sat and talked for a while, and she cheerfully opened her arms and said “You should marry a Polish girl!”
After paying the well-earned 110E, I went to the shower where guys were washing their dicks with those 10-second spurts of water that Artemis has to conserve water. Then I went down to the pool area where I dodged a few sharks who were hunting in packs. After I brushed them off, they went into the sauna where, by through the door, I noticed a guy lying on his back, naked, his eyes closed, his prick sticking up in the air. I can just imagine what happened when those two sharks went in there!
Session #2
Not long after, I was hanging around the main stairwell when I spotted a really sweet, young blonde with creamy smooth skin. Her perfect rack and pink nipples were on display. She was a little short and wide-set, but not fat. I chatted with her and found out that she was also from Poland, 20, and very nice. So I grabbed her hand and we went upstairs.
Once in the room, I noticed that this girl was not as cheerful as the last, and I sensed she was not really into her job. Nevertheless, she made a truly outstanding effort to comply with every request, and no complaining. We kissed on the lips, I sucked her pristine rack, stuck my tongue up her ass, then we did every position. Finally when I was close to coming, I turned on my back to get finished by BJ. She politely asked if I would like the condom taken off, I said “off course.” However, to save a few coins I did not CIM. Just as I started to come, she pulled her head up and a stream of white cum flowed down all over her slender hand stroking my tool. I gladly gave her the 50E owing.
After the session, I went back to the lounge for a while . . . saw a really hot oriental girl with a huge, natural rack, but I was too drained to avail myself. I also saw a gorgeous 10/10 blonde Barbie doll across the room, but someone grabbed her and she was not seen again. Then I spotted a lithe, athletic chick walking around naked – she had a sculpted ass and was bending over. She must have noticed me staring at her beautiful butt crack, because she came up to me and loudly announced “anal is 50E!”
I went to the downstairs Kino where the air was clear to gather my thoughts. I felt like between this night and the previous one, it was enough and I didn’t have a lot of body fluid left to donate. Girls circulated through the room propositioning me, and I turned them away.
I decided I would call it a night, as I was suffering from SDS (sore dick syndrome). Just as I was about to get up, a young girl came in, walking like a model in high heels. She was a fair-skinned brunette, average size chest with wide set hips but very fit – she had her own unique appeal. Her abs and ass were well toned, and she looked like she was in high spirits.
Session #3
The girl sat down and threw her arms around me. She stated chatting and slipped her hand into my robe to stroke my chest. She told me she was from Georgia and 25. She kissed me on the lips and asked if I would session her. “No,” I said firmly, explaining that I had nothing left to give. She just smiled warmly and continued to kiss me, trying to get her tongue into my mouth. Then I refused again, and so she just smiled again and kept feeling me up and DFKing me. She was so pleasant about it – not pushy, she would just ignore “no” and keep going.
Soon my poor dick was pitching a tent. Of course she noticed and smiled again, and started massaging my groin. Then she put her head down and I felt my shaft slide into her warm mouth, saliva dripping on me. She came up for air and said “you want to do it here?”
At this point obviously I had lost the battle, so I took her into the side room and closed the curtain. The downstairs Kino is set up with directly adjacent bedrooms that are made with plywood dividers that don’t reach up to the ceiling. The doorways are only covered by curtains.
I laid back on the bed and spread my legs apart while she crouched over me and resumed polishing my tool. She seemed to really enjoy this. I must mention that, as we started with this, another couple had gone into the stall next to us. There was no sound proofing whatsoever, and this couple was having the most energetic session of screwing I have ever heard. The girl was either and Oscar-winning actress or having a massive orgasm; she was screaming like crazy. At the same time, the porn on the Kino screen was heating up, and you could hear the girl in the movie moaning and screaming an orgasm – it was a cacophony -- perhaps one of the most unique experiences to listen to all this while the Georgian girl was eagerly bobbing her head up and down in my lap, her curly disheveled hair falling down onto my stomach and legs. Under these circumstances, despite my sore tool, I came quickly.
After this, we stood up naked and the girl threw away the soiled paper towel, but the couple next to us was still going at it. So my girl, ever the joker, started laughing and imitating: “oh baby, oh yeah, oh baby, oh oh . . . !” while she bounced her naked hard ass right into my groin as though we were screwing.
Out of money and finally right out of fluid, I changed and grabbed a cab from the jam-packed parking lot, and we sped back into the city in the wee hours of the morning.
NEXT: My report on the Palace!!
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Question on Rates
[QUOTE=Marine One]After paying the well-earned 110E
I gladly gave her the 50E owing.
She must have noticed me staring at her beautiful butt crack, because she came up to me and loudly announced "anal is 50E! "[/QUOTE]I'm going to Berlin next week, I plan to visit Artemis, and I wanted to clarify a few things on pricing. My understanding is that the door fee is 80 Euro. I've been reading and I thought the going rates for the girls was 60 Euro for the half hour/120 Euro for the hour, and extra charges to be negotiated for extras, like anal. Have these standard rates changed? Or is there negotiation involved? I don't want to commit a faux pas.
Thank you for the great report, Marine One.
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Artemis inflation?
Sjguy,
My report was a bit tardy, so maybe Artemis has raised prices again. I can't believe that during a recession they can do so well. When I was there, you paid 80E to get in, 50E for 30 min of action including BBBJ, and if you wanted CIM it was 60E more. The girl with the beautiful butt crack might have had a promotional special going, because I think some people were talking about anal for 100E (extra)!
Let us know how it goes!
MO
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[QUOTE=Marine One]Sjguy,
My report was a bit tardy, so maybe Artemis has raised prices again. I can't believe that during a recession they can do so well. When I was there, you paid 80E to get in, 50E for 30 min of action including BBBJ, and if you wanted CIM it was 60E more. The girl with the beautiful butt crack might have had a promotional special going, because I think some people were talking about anal for 100E (extra)!
Let us know how it goes! MO[/QUOTE]
I have been going to Artemis for about a year now very regularly.
Last December they raised the entrance from 70 to 80 euros.
The girl's rates are as follows-1/2 hr. incl. bbbj, sex & kissing (kissing not absolutely guaranteed) is 60 euros. Come in mouth- +50. Anal + 100.
There are other extras-CoF, CoB but you have to negotiate with a particular girl as I am not sure and do not partake.
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[QUOTE=Marine One]Once I pried the girl’s hands off my neck, I explained to her that the whole thing was not my fault. She did eventually calm down, however I unfortunately had to pay the extra fee for CIM.
Incidentally, I saw this girl the next night I was in Artemis. She was in her street clothes with a duffel bag. She had told me after our session that she decided to leave Germany and go back home. I went after her in my bathrobe, hoping to get more deep throat, but she wouldn’t talk to me or even stop.[/QUOTE]Hi Marine One,
Nice reports, but it's guaranteed to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] a girl off if you come in her throat without first receiving her permission. And now because of you she's left the profession? If everyone treats the girls like rubbish it just makes it worse for those of us who don't.
I had a nice chat with a super model girl last night at Artemis, who told me about herself, and why she is there. She was born with a beautiful body, but nothing else. She comes from a small town in eastern Europe with very little opportunity to make any money. And she's one of the lucky ones because of her natural beauty. Have a little compassion!
Falco
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Artemis Reno....
.... in the works?
For those of you who do not also check the Berlin thread-Rocketboy has reported there that there are some plans for a major over hall of the facilities at Artemis. He has heard that when the tire store, presently in front of Artemis, closes its' doors in 2010, they will begin construction of a swim pool, restaurant facilities and more parking. The last feature being of the least interest to Angus.
If indeed this is true it could be a big improvement. Though I have to say that they will also need some major sound proofing barriers between the idilic setting of a swim pool and the autobahn that runs past just a few meters away.
Maybe a retractable dome?
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Kenan does have plans for a renovation of Artemis and for additional facilities, maybe combined with a different model with higher prices and value. Let's see if it will be realized.
HB
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[QUOTE=Hessen Bub]Kenan does have plans for a renovation of Artemis and for additional facilities, maybe combined with a different model with higher prices and value. Let's see if it will be realized.
HB[/QUOTE]
Higher prices? How much higher can they go? Artemis is already the highest priced FKK.
Remodeling=good idea.
Higher prices=bad idea.
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Different concept, different prices. Actually the plan is to have like a hihger level seperate part of the club with girls in evening dresses, some kind of nightclub. Let's wait and see.
HB
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[QUOTE=Hessen Bub]Different concept, different prices. Actually the plan is to have like a hihger level seperate part of the club with girls in evening dresses, some kind of nightclub. Let's wait and see.
HB[/QUOTE]
Sounds like all of those visits from Royalty are going to his head.
Not sure that such a targeted group would be that numerous, but what do I know.
Cheers,
Dedalus, who prefers the robe and towel for himself, and maybe only a little lingerie for the ladies
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Very unusual evening
[QUOTE=Falco2]Hi Marine One,
Nice reports, but it's guaranteed to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] a girl off if you come in her throat without first receiving her permission. And now because of you she's left the profession? If everyone treats the girls like rubbish it just makes it worse for those of us who don't.
Falco[/QUOTE]I may have left a misleading impression in my post, as I didn't have time to explain what actually happened between my choking incident and the next night.
After the girl finally calmed down, we started to chat and she eventually got very flirty and charming as we seemed to have some sort of chemistry. She asked me all sorts of personal questions and even wanted to get my full, real name and contact info.- she followed me to the lockers. Then she came back later and held my hand and flattered me with compliments. Her departure must have been previously planned but was not really explained.. I think she was on her way to the airport when I saw her the next night.
That was certainly among the most memorable evenings I have ever had.. First time in a FKK, get the world's best BBBJ, then choked by the girl, then almost best friends! Hilarious!
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Artemis-05/09/09
the ifa (a huge consumer electronics trade show at the messe) has been swelling the ranks at artemis for the past few nights and last night, saturday, i was invited by fellow monger and isg member blue swede to hang out and see what trouble we could get up to. we met promptly at 17:00 in front of blue’s nearby, and unbelievably conveniently located (to artemis that is) hotel. after a short walk (5 mins.) we checked in and were very soon seated upon one of the sofas along the wall overlooking the bar, each with a milch cafe, and spent the next hour+ watching the ladies arrive and comparing notes on the ladies we knew.
already at this early hour there was a buzz to the evening. the ladies were in fine form and, for the most part, relaxed as they seemed to know that tonight would be easy pickings for them. a couple of the ladies stopped by our sofa to sell their wares but for the most part we were left alone. i did spot my current bulgarian fave and another bulgarian (rosalind or rosa) stopped by to chat, finding common ground with blue in that they both speak some greek-the language that is not the sexual act.
finally i decided to grab bulgarian #1 as i happened to know that she is headed back home for a visit next week and this may be the last opportunity i have to session with her for a while, or ever as who know if she will in fact be back.
the session was, as it always is for me, fantastic. the only downside to the meeting was that she informed me that as well as heading home for her holiday, she would be going into surgery next week here in germany and having a boob job. oh the humanity! without being rude i voiced my objection to this (she has very nice natural, not huge but nice, boobs) but told her that next time, if she returns, her new boobs would not be a deal breaker for me. just, i pleaded, don’t make them too big. and as she has not made any payments yet i reminded her that she could still change her mind...
after the session i met up again with blue, who had also taken his first session, with rosalind/rosa, and we had a quick sauna and then headed up to the dining room.
upon returning to the floor business had picked up quite a bit. we haunted the bar area for a bit, took a place on the sofas at the base of the stairs and then, finally, staked out a spot on the landing near the entrance to the bar to watch the comings and goings as the girls come down the stairs with their customers to get paid.
we were there for the best part of an hour between 22:00 and 23:00. while not as busy as it would later get i could see that this was to be an uncommonly brisk evening. there was a large contingent of japanese mongers milling about in this area and some of the girls seemed to be just coming down the stairs, getting paid, a quick shower (one would hope) and then picking another japanese gentleman, hanging out like over ripe plums on the tree, and heading back up to the rooms.
i had my eye out for bulgarian connie (from my previous report) or a very pretty, tall hungarian lass, upon blue’s recommendation. connie seemed to be coming from and going to the rooms at an alarming rate (one of the plum pluckers) so i was sort of leaning towards hungary. around 23:00 she appeared and headed to the bar, so i bid a speedy farewell to blue, who was headed back to his hotel for an early-ish night, and set off in pursuit.
catching up with hungary (didn’t get her name) i sat with her for a couple of minutes trying to get a feel for her but quickly decided to bail on her as the vibe just was not right. she is a very pretty girl, seems nice enough, but so much was happening that i could tell that she had one foot out the door already and really wanted to either head to a room-now-or find a gentleman who was ready. the impatience did not sit right with me.
so i met up again with blue who was, it seems, having a bit of difficulty actually getting out the door, and said a proper good bye. then i headed of for a determined try at getting connie to a room.
well i met her but she was also in processing mode. when we met she said we can go to the kino or one of the curtained bar beds. i told her that i was not a big fan of the kino action and found the bar beds unpleasant (especially on such a night when they are not really being cleaned and often have a wet spot...) and that i wanted to go to a room upstairs. too long a wait for a room was her reply.
so i bailed.
so the rest of the night, and i stayed way too late, was an exercise in frantic frustration. by 00:30 there was hardly a girl to be seen in the bar. they appeared and then disappeared. there were several girls in whom old angus had interest but unless i was willing to grab them and drag them/be dragged to the nearest horizontal surface for a frenetic fuck, i wasn’t gettin' any.
but i hung in there until almost 3:00, finally managing to get to my locker, hidden now behind a hulking great stack of discarded robes and plastic sandals, get my clothes on and beat a hasty path to the s-bahn. thankfully i made the 2:49 train which gets me to my stop in time for the final bus, cutting out a 15 minute walk to my place from the s-bahn station.
all in all it was an enjoyable evening for the company if not for the ladies. i was awfully glad to get to session with bulgarian #1. i guess the trick with such nights (high volume messe in town) is to go early, session and get out. blue had the right idea.
that’s all for now.
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Artemis 3-5 Sep
This report start at Thursday, when IFA wasn't open yet.
I arrived at Artemis at 17.00, just after checking in to the hotel (Kronprintz).
It was pretty relaxed and no one was really. I took some time and cruised the floors a bit, answered some attacks like "First time here? - Wan't to go to a room?" With -No and -Maybe later, but made sure to aske every girs of their name and origin to add to the mental notes and also check with the extract from this thread I had in my iPod.
(no one suspect anything from someone clicking to a music player, paper notes wouldn't go that unnoticed)
So, after a while, checking the pool area I got a "match" on my list, Ella!
So, it was time for session one. Ella was exactly as already described here, a real sweetie! Soft, slow BJ in good pace. This girl is a gem and well worth to repeat.
After a couple of hours of relaxing and some liter of apfelschorle, I ran into Virginia from Hungary (Hungarian girls is a bit of a hangup for me). She was more of a PSE compared to Ella. A good session, but problably not a repeat.
At this point I was "well done" and had no power left for a third session. However, a FKK is like Hotel California "You can check out, but you can never leave". It is difficult to get yourself out from there, part of the pleasure is to see the "parade" and watch the dynamics of the place.
So after some more hours of watching, I ran into Ani, the Hungarian girl Angus wrote about. She was so pretty and sooo sweet, I regret to have spent my fluids for the evening already.
I however found a "plan B", I asked to go to a room and have a good time, but I will not finish, I know for sure.
This was ok, so we went to a room. We had a terrific time, cuddling, giggling, a bit of BJ, some massage, myself feeling her up carefully, great body!
All in all, a well spent 60€ in my opinion, and that is what matters.
This girl is also a gem, but showed unfortunately different behaviour during the "IFA Saturday rush hours".
I left shortly after midnight, really satisfied.
Friday:
Started the night checking out Psst Cafe, will write a short report in the Berlin thread about that, short version: Don't waste time by going there!
So, at 23.30 I was on my way back to the hotel, but somehow found myself at Artemis again! Boy, it was busy!
After some pacing around, I ran into Teodora, from Hungaria, pretty girl with glasses and a "school teacher look". She was performing pretty well and was energic and pleasant.
Friday, most of it has already been covered by Angus. It was really nice to meet him and chat fo an evening. Also, not being alone keeps the worst sharks at distance I think.
The session with Rosalind(?) was really good and the recommendation I got from Angus was of value. I of course got in the "CIM trap", it is impossible to do proper business when you dick is in a girls mouth! I didn't regret it afterwards anyway. :-)
Rest of the evening, myself and Angus spent as he already has described.
It was interesting to watch the scene, but it was a bad climate for good experiences. We however had a really enjoyable evening and I am seeing forward to some of the coming reports from Angus, as I now think I have figured out some items on his todo list.....
General advice for Artemis, and problably other FKKs:
Go early, session as early as possible, especially when external events like IFA is ongoing. When the girls switch to processing mode, nothing good comes out of it.
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Artemis report from German TV
for those who speak a bit of german here is a short behind the scenes report on artemis from german tv. a peek inside the security room is pretty interesting.
[url]http://www.podcast.de/episode/962330/das_bordell_artemis_in_berlin[/url]
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[quote=angus magee]for those who speak a bit of german here is a short behind the scenes report on artemis from german tv. a peek inside the security room is pretty interesting.
[url]http://www.podcast.de/episode/962330/das_bordell_artemis_in_berlin[/url]
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i didn't quite understand the part about video surveillance: are there security cameras inside the actual rooms?
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[QUOTE=Charles Browne]I didn't quite understand the part about video surveillance: Are there security cameras inside the actual rooms?[/QUOTE]
Well I certainly hope not:-(((
If there are I will have to brush up on my performance.
Seriously-I can not see them installing cameras in the rooms. And if they did it would certainly be a such a secrete that it would not be admitted to on German national TV. I myself would feel nothing more than perhaps a slight performance anxiety knowing that some burley security guard might be watching (and recording?) my pooning.
But imagine how the average married German business man might feel if he knew he was being filmed on security? Not very good for such a business.
Anyone with better German that CB or I can confirm what they say about security in the rooms?
In the meantime I'll be perfecting my technique.
PS. I do know that every room has a panic button for the girls if the do get into trouble with a client. Apparently there would be a couple of big guys appearing in the room should it be pushed-within a minute or so.
On Saturday night I witnessed a guest being escorted forcibly off the premises by two big guys-one on each arm. It was later in the evening and there was a number of fairly drunk guests in the house.
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]
On Saturday night I witnessed a guest being escorted forcibly off the premises by two big guys-one on each arm. It was later in the evening and there was a number of fairly drunk guests in the house.
AM[/QUOTE]
The guys they escort out the door: Do they allow them to get dressed or are they hauled out and chucked into the street stark naked?
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[QUOTE=Ortos]The guys they escort out the door: Do they allow them to get dressed or are they hauled out and chucked into the street stark naked?
O[/QUOTE]
The guy I saw on Saturday was dressed but his shirt was unbuttoned and his feet bare. A third guy was carrying the shoes & a jacket,
He was going out the door in a hurry.
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[QUOTE=Marine One]I may have left a misleading impression in my post, as I didn't have time to explain what actually happened between my choking incident and the next night.
After the girl finally calmed down, we started to chat and she eventually got very flirty and charming as we seemed to have some sort of chemistry. She asked me all sorts of personal questions and even wanted to get my full, real name and contact info.- she followed me to the lockers. Then she came back later and held my hand and flattered me with compliments. Her departure must have been previously planned but was not really explained.. I think she was on her way to the airport when I saw her the next night.
That was certainly among the most memorable evenings I have ever had.. First time in a FKK, get the world's best BBBJ, then choked by the girl, then almost best friends! Hilarious![/QUOTE]Hi Marine One,
The experience you had sounds like a blast, ok perhaps with the exception of the choking. I was at Artemis last week and had a blast too. The girl you mention sounds like a sweetie! I met a sweetie too, details to follow once I consolidate my notes.
Regards,
Falco2
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Artemis 12/09/09-Post IFA Slump?
despite the fact that i could barely scrape together the funds needed for a stellar night out at artemis, yesterday mid afternoon found me on the bus headed for my favorite saturday evening entertainment venue in berlin. i had decided a little taste of honey is better than none at all. this and the fact that the next few weekends are all booked up for me, and i had in mind a few of the girls i had seen last week when i was in the company of blue swede and the girls were a bit to busy to meet for a proper session.
i arrived very early (15:00) and after my customary milch cafe at the upper bar to scope the action (not much at 15:00) headed down for a sauna and swim. after that, having brought a book, i installed myself on a downstairs couch and read until my eyes started to shut and sleep descended. upon awakening more reading and then upstairs where i guessed that diner should be just about served.
it was reasonable today-chicken breast in some sort of cream sauce, baked potatoes, tortellini with gorgonzola sauce (though i did question the presence of actual gorgonzola in the sauce) and corn on the cob. now i know we are not here for the food but i can not help commenting-corn on the cob? at a sex club? when i eat corn on the cob i tend to spend the next hours picking it from my teeth-even with a lengthy session of flossing. now i do see the phallic possibilities of corn on the cob as a sex toy (hot buttered) but sincerely wonder if anyone planning the artemis menu gives much consideration as to the nature of the club. but enough of food reviews. we are here for the girls.
having eaten, i think, a bit too much tortellini in cream sauce i quickly retreated to the down stairs again for another half hour session on a couch and then, teeth brushed, i headed to the upper bar, ready for action, and sat on one of the couches to survey the evenings offerings.
there must have been about 15-20 girls present at the bar, all lined up, and a rep001tering of men around the bar. with regard to the women the first thought that popped into my mind was-what a motley collection of ‘hos! of the ladies around the bar i would have to say that not one of them could i rate at much more than a 6, maybe 6. 5 if i was being generous. where were all the girls? by this time it was just past 19:00. many of the girls must be here, i thought. is this it? where are the hotties i had my eyes on last week?
sadly, while over the next hour the line up did improve, this was to be an evening where the normally well rounded artemis selection of hot girls never really showed up. i guess the weeks hyper busy ifa conference put enough cash in their pockets that many finally took their vacations. none of my favorite were there, none of the girls i had my eye on last week (the tall hungarian, the small tight latina) and even rosalind was giving me the cold shoulder for not taking her to the room.
so after a 10 or 15 minutes i headed down to the platforms at the base of the staircase to consider my options. to be truthful i was tired, long two weeks at work, and was even considering bailing altogether on the evening. but i thought i would just wait and see if some more enticing ladies would show up over the next hour or so. and indeed the girls doing the rounds did start to improve somewhat and old angus felt a bit more hopeful and decided to stay.
i spotted a few girls with whom i had done a session and had it in mind to repeat but none came over and i was really not so much in the mood to go off chasing. then a girl i had never seen before came over to introduce herself.
ushi is a girl whom i would frankly not really consider for a session. german (lives some hours by car from berlin), late ‘20s, pretty face and with a body that really did not do much for me at all. a bit on the heavy side-not what i would call fat-but packing a few extra pounds on the hips & belly. as my regular readers know i usually do tend to chase the young and taut variety of service provider...
in any case she sat with me for perhaps 10-15 minutes and i found myself wishing she was just a bit more taut as in fact i really liked her. she was obviously intelligent and had a sense of humor that she displayed with some gentle teasing as she tried to entice me into a session. in the end though i pleaded tiredness (which was actually quite true) and let her go on her way as i descended once again into a kind of sleepy haze, being also aware of the constant stream of girls coming down the stairs trying to snare a session.
maybe half an hour later ushi was back at my side and again we had a very pleasant and light exchange. damn-i like this girl, i found myself thinking, if only....
then suddenly i found myself saying to myself, what the hell, and i was inviting her to find a room. as we ascended the stair case our interaction continued and if anything became better. there was some really nice chemistry there with ushi. in the room was no different. the session was, in a word, fantastic. this girl knows her stuff and was very responsive and genuine. the bj was top notch, not much kissing but i had the feeling that this was more from my side than hers, and the fucking, well, let’s just say it was nice to find a girl who knows how to use her pussy muscles.
afterwards we started to talk and the conversation just flowed out of both of us. and here we did hit a bit of a snag, or what could have been a snag. i was aware of the time we were there but as i mention, the conversation was both interesting and engaging. as i say, i like this girl and i could tell she like me. i kept thinking to mention the time but never did. then finally she asked me if i would mind if she had a smoke before heading back downstairs. not at all, i said, but i was wondering about the time. she looked at her watch and informed me that in 5 minutes we would be at an hour!
urrrrrr......but we have been talking the past half hour, i said and....
uncomfortable to say the least.
but ushi was very gracious. she immediately copped to the fact that upon entering the room she had made no mention of price which she should have done according to her. i felt relived but also a bit responsible as, in fact, i am well aware of the price structure at artemis.
but she assured me that she felt the over run was more her responsibility and in the end she accepted the fact that i had not asked for the extra 25 minutes of paid talk. so in the end i paid her for the half hour and made a mental note not to let this sort of thing happen again to me no matter how engaging a conversationalist is the girl.
will i repeat-it is hard to say. as is obvious i really did like ushi. and her handling of our over run was better than i could have ever asked for. so a repeat, i have to say, is not out of the question. i just have to wrap my head around her not being a hot young twenty year old.
wtf-i thought that avoiding this sort of thing was just the reason i went to such places as artemis;-((
i showered and then was soon back on the platforms, this time tucked way back under the stairs, unseen, and soon fell into rather a deep sleep from which i awoke almost an hour later slightly confused as to where i actually was. after some time i decided to check out the bar and if nothing caught my eye i would head out for an early night.
once round in the bar and i spotted zafira (not 100% sure of the name but pretty close). zafira and i had spoken earlier as well as some weeks back. she is early ‘20s, blondish with dark highlights, nice breasts, very beautiful soft glow-y skin and sort of a cute baby face. i had a good feeling about her. again she has a bit of meat on the bones and is a tad heavier that i would normally go for, but she was just sitting there, available, with little effort on my part so i immediately invited her to the room.
the session was a bit of a disappointment. while zafira is a nice girl, the chemistry just wasn’t really there (contrasted to ushi?) and i found the action was a wee bit mechanical. she seemed to have her routine and was not really open to just letting things develop naturally. and maybe this was not really all her fault. i did chose her on the strength of a nice conversation i had with her some weeks back and the fact that she seemed a sweet & comfortable girl. in the end maybe it was simply that i was not that into her?
so her bj was good but the sex ended up being kind of awkward and not really working for me so i had her finish me with a combination hand job and bj, covered so as to avoid the 50 euro cim charge which i really did not want to pay. i was satisfied in the end, drained, packed up and left immediately for home. an early night for me by artemis standards as i was in bed asleep by 00:30.
one thing i did notice was that artemis is coming up on its’ 4 year anniversary and is planning a big, bang-up celebration on sept. 29th.. will it be worth attending? hard to say. if it is to be one of their very busy nights i would have to say i will give it a miss unless they somehow sweeten the deal with a seriously reduced admittance fee (not very likely) or i can somehow determine that the place will not be a sex zoo as it was the weekend of the ifa.
we will wait and see.
thanks for reading
am
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First trip to Artemis
I decided to visit Artemis in Berlin for this trip, rather than visiting Golden Time and Living Room like I usually do. I just had to check it out to see how it compares to the other large FKK clubs in Deutschland.
To me one of the most appealing things was the location. It’s located in the middle of a large (and vibrant) city, and so the public transportation can be used to get there and back, which saves $$$. On my previous trips to GT and LV I’ve stayed at a hotel in Moenchengladbach, rented a car, and drove for half an hour to get to either club (Bruggen / Karst).
So my reasoning was that if the talent level in Artemis was comparable to Golden Time, this could become my preferred club for future visits.
I visited Artemis seven times last week, and my general observations follow.
Pros:
* This place is well managed and the system well thought out. The staff work hard, the gals perform a good level of service, the place is clean, and the system in place there just works. I saw the owner several times during the week I was there, and the manager daily, which for me is a good sign.
* You can sleep downstairs on a sofa or lounge chair, and nobody will bother you. This is more of a bonus to those of us who travel from afar.
* I liked the separate dining area. They provide real food for all but a few hours during the afternoon and wee morning hours. It’s not gourmet, but when you’re hungry it’ll do.
Cons:
* The girls approach you, and many don’t take no for an answer. It’s not as bad as Palace in Frankfurt, but close. After being politely but firmly rejected, many of the girls act insulted and argue or pout, which creates a bad vibe. I have to say though, that from talking to the girls at Golden Time, many have complained that a lot of men go there, eat the food, and just sit around and lounge without ever going to a room with a girl. Maybe the policy of letting the girls work the floor is a way to get the ijsberen off their butts and into a room.
* I would have to say that overall I found the talent level at Artemis lower than what I’ve seen at Golden Tiime over the last few years, at least for my taste. I read some reports of mongers describing a “sea of blondes”, but this was not the case last week. The ratio of natural blondes to all others was roughly about 1 in 20. There were some very attractive girls there, but I did’nt see any real stunners, but of course this is subjective.
Sunday
I arrived at the Berlin-Tegel airport at 7:40am, and took a taxi to my hotel. Since it was too early to check in, I put my suitcase in a secured room by the lobby, and then went out for a walk. It was a sleepy Sunday morning in the Charlottenburg part of Berlin.
At the nearest S-Bahn station, I studied the kiosk machine to determine which ticket to buy for my ride to Artemis. I determined that the AB Tageskarte was the right one for 6.10 euros. The "AB" refers to the zones on the map that are closest to the city center. It's not possible to purchase a ticket for the "A" zone only. If you don't have the correct change or your card does'nt work, it takes 10 euro bills. You then stick the ticket in another machine so it will get stamped, and you're good to go.
I went back to the hotel, and they had a room ready for me (around 12:00). I slept for about an hour, and then went to Artemis via the S-Bahn.
I entered Artemis around 3pm, and after showering and walking around a bit, I found the talent level pretty low, but it was mid-afternoon on a Sunday.
I spotted an attractive girl with long dark hair, and 15 minutes after entering Artemis I was off with:
* Patricia from Portugal. Tall, dark eyes and skin, long dark hair. In the room she asked if we should stay an hour, and I replied that we should do a half hour and see how it goes. She seemed a bit disappointed at this. She then took out a disinfectant wipe and cleaned my willy. It was a mechanical session, but I enjoyed it.
After a brief rest, I spotted another girl that I wanted to say hello to:
* Vivien, from Slovakia - very pretty face, long dark hair, lean body. She was very sensuous and enthusiastic. Very feminine, very fun. We did 69, and I enjoyed sucking and licking her muschi. It was a very enjoyable hour session.
I was quite tired by then due the traveling, and so went downstairs and layed down on a couch. I was probably sleeping there for about an hour and a half. I returned to the main lounge area about 7:30.
* Charlotte, from Poland. Past shoulder length light blonde hair, piercing blue eyes. She was very talkative and fun. Excellent session.
* Donata, from Poland - short brown hair, beautiful face and eyes. A very cute girl, loves to laugh. Excellent session.
At this point I was really feeling the lack of sleep, so I had to leave. But before I left I went into the dining room and ate dinner. So convenient. It was easy finding my way back to the hotel using the S-Bahn.
I would have to say though, that even though the girls I had enjoyed were all lovely, I did’nt see any knock out stunners on my first visit.
Monday
I arrived at 3:30, and spotted a stunner:
* Anita (?) from Hungary - tall, long dark brown hair to her butt, beautiful face, and lean body. Nice gal, good session.
* Jasmin from Germany - Long dark blonde hair, brown eyes, very beautiful. We went for an hour. Super service.
* Yvonne from Czech Republic - medium length, straight brown hair just below the shoulders. Another hour, excellent BJ and service. Excellent gal. Unfortunately I was unable to finish, so this would be the final attempt for the evening.
Afterwards I ate dinner in the dining room and went back to the hotel.
Tuesday
Today I wanted to experience Artemis during the evening, to see if the evening shift brings in the best talent. The last two days had been quiet, with girls mostly sitting or standing around, and only a handful of men to keep them busy.
I arrived around 8:30pm, and it was just a bit busier than before, but still far from crowded. I did'nt see any new faces either.
Shortly after arriving I walked past the beautiful Anita from Hungary, and she flashed me a big smile, so we went into one of the rooms next to the downstairs kino.
* Anita from Hungary - I could tell this was going to be a good session because we had already been acquainted, and she was already teasing me and joking with me, so I booked an hour.
I have to say that this time I was aware of a flaw in her technique: too much teeth during the blowjob. I did'nt say anything, but when she asked me if I was ready for sex I did'nt think twice. We started off in reverse cowgirl, then doggie, and finally mish. I was'nt sure if I was going to be able to finish, since I had enjoyed a lot of sex the previous two days, but I just kept focusing on how beautiful her body is, and face, and finally after humping away for 20 minutes or so I was able to finish.
Afterwards I went back into the main bar area, and sat down on a couch next to a punter from India, who was bobbing his head to the music and apparently enjoying the moment. We chatted for a bit, and then I saw Charlotte standing near the entrance, and decided to grab her.
* Charlotte from Germany - She has the most piercing and beautiful blue eyes I have ever seen. Once in the room I mentioned this to her, and she said that people ask her if she has colored contact lenses all the time. This was a very good session for me. Her blowjob technique is very good, and she uses her hands only minimally. Afterwards she was again very talkative, no rush to leave the room.
After this I showered and went into the dining room and ate. The food was edible, but the biggest issue for me is that the heat is too high in the serving plates, and so the food is over cooked. The serving spoon that sits in the dish was really hot.
I then went back into the main bar area with an Apfelshorle, and sat down on a couch in the back. I just wanted to sit and relax a bit before returning to my hotel. I declined the offers of a few girls, but then a girl sat down next to me with blonde hair, and was so amusing that I had to give it a try.
* Bia from Spain - Once we were in the hallway with better lighting I could see that her hair was bleached blonde. In the room Bia tried valiantly to get me to finish, but I could'nt do it. Her blowjob technique was very good. I told her I was tired and had enough sex for one day. She was'nt really that friendly, but I could'nt complain since she had tried so hard to get me to finish.
I left Artemis around 1:00am, and had’nt seen any improvement in the talent level with the evening shift.
Thursday
I had taken Wednesday off (Dessous day) to allow my body to "recuperate".
I arrived at Artemis about 3:30pm and it was dead. I was considering another session with the sexy Jasmine, but she was no where to be found.
While sitting on a sofa in the main bar area, a girl with long blonde hair sat down next to me and said hello. I had seen her before and had put her on my todo list.
* Jane from Germany – tall, long blonde hair, blue eyes, very attractive. Good session.
After this I rested on a sofa downstairs for perhaps an hour and a half, passing time while waiting for the evening shift to arrive without being hassled by sharks. After returning to the main bar area, I noticed a gal I had'nt seen before:
* Julie from Germany - 21 years old, long brown hair. We walked upstairs, and upon entering the room she immediately started DFK and then kneeled down and began sucking my willy. Good BJ technique. One hour, this was an amazing session.
* Dominica from Poland – blonde hair, blue eyes, very attractive girl with a bubbly personality. She was fun. One hour, excellent service.
After paying Dominica at the little lockers, I decided to leave Artemis, since I was'nt sure I had another session in me. So I put my $$$ back in my main locker, showered, and returned to the main bar area and ordered yet another Apfelshorle. I just wanted to sit and observe the action a bit, and make sure I did'nt miss any welcome additions to the evening shift before returning to my hotel.
After fending off several shark attacks, I was approached by an attractive gal with long black hair, and decided to give it a try:
* Rosie from Greece - We sessioned in the main lounge area in one of the circular beds with the curtains. Good session.
After this, the thought of another session was preposterous, so I ordered another ApfelShorle, and took a seat on one of the sofas directly adjacent to the bar in the main lounge, and fended off the shark attacks.
By now, I had sessioned with many of the girls in the room, most of which I had enjoyed thoroughly, but I tried to avoid too much eye contact so I would'nt have to reject them if they approached me.
A voice coming from the sofa next to mine caught my attention, and there sat a young and incredibly cute girl who was trying to say hello. She wanted me to come sit next to her but I told her I've had too much sex for the day blah blah. She just nodded her head gently with a very cute face and that was it. Somehow we were talking again, and she was so cute I took her hand, and we held hands for quite a while as she talked to her friends, and then back to me, and watched the people come and go. So later when she asked me again to join her on her sofa I did, and she just melted into my arms, and we sat and chatted and watched the action together for quite some time, while she rested her head on my shoulder.
* Sade from Poland - lean, young looking with dark brown hair. Very cute but also a fire-cracker. I really iked her. One hour, could'nt finish, but she tried valiantly. When paying her, I asked her how long our session was. Since we never agreed on an hour, I thought it fair to ask. She really tensed up and made a motion with her hand that I can't forget. It was'nt a fist, she just rotated her hand, but it was clearly indicating stress. She was suddenly gripped with anger at the thought of being ripped off by a customer whose affection was only temporary. I immediately said "an hour?", and paid her the 120 euros. She was so relieved she stood up on her toes and gave me a big hug, and kiss, and said to me "du Bist ein nettes Man". And we smiled at each other and said good bye.
I have to admit that I was quite happy with the girls I sessioned with this evening, but overall, after surveying the talent at Artemis during the 9 hours I was there, the overall talent level was still lower than I had hoped for.
I left around 1am and took a taxi back to my hotel for 10 euros.
Friday
Since there were two conventions at the Berlin Messe, I was unsure how crowded Artemis would become, so I opted for another mid-afternoon entry, and arrived around 3pm. There were very few customers, and more girls than men.
I spotted Julie whom I had sessioned with the day before, and went over to say hi.
* Julie from Germany - one hour, good session.
An hour or two later I finally spotted Dominica from Poland, but she was talking to other men, so I waited until she was sitting at the bar with another good looking blonde girl, and said hello.
* Dominica from Poland - this girl is so fine that we stayed in the room for two hours. I will only say that it was thoroughly enjoyable.
Then I ate in the dining room, and had a nice conversation with a local Berlin man.
After this I just sat in the main lounge area and watched the people come and go, ordering a new Apfelshorle every 30 minutes or so from the bar.
At 10pm the lights went dim, the music changed, and a pole dancer began her sexy show. By this time the room was full of people, and I had lost my seat on the sofa, and so I stood on the upper level leaning on the rail, with a full view of the entire room. Soon others joined me, and the place became energized, with one couple swing dancing in the corner, and many others bouncing and dancing to the music. Now this was what I was hoping to see. This was fun. Unfortunately my right leg was hurting for some reason. I think I tweaked it while wrestling with the lovely Dominica during our two hour romp. I was also seriously tired, so I started to make my way to the exit after lasting as long as I could. When I was standing behind some people on my way out, a cute gal stepped directly in front of me facing away, just an inch from my face, and grabbed my willy with her hand and leaned back. I don't know how I walked away from her but I managed, and went back to the locker area and changed back into my street clothes. On the way out, I stopped at the reception desk to return my key, and since it was the same Rezeptionfrau that I had seen almost daily now for several days, I told her that I was tired because it's hard work to come here every day.
Saturday
I had set as my next target a beautiful blonde, lean girl, but I had to wait. Some guy was talking to her and her friend for over an hour, but did'nt session with her. I got up and followed her as she left the main bar area, down the stairs, waited until she came out of the women’s restroom, and finally caught her at the top of the spiral staircase.
* Violeta from Poland - a very beautiful blonde gal, very lean body, blue eyes. Excellent service and fun. I was suspecting she might be just an optifuck, but she turned out to be very nice, easy to talk to, and performed an outstanding, enthusiastic blowjob. Later in the evening, I could'nt understand how she could be sitting there waiting for punters to approach her. You would think that she would be snatched up immediately upon entering the bar area.
* Miley, from Germany (I think) - dirty blonde hair, blue eyes, very lean body. I went after her as she left the main bar area and found her by the game machines by the spiral staircase. When I looked at her she meowed at me like a cat. I asked her if she would like to join me in the bar so we cuddled up on a circular bed and chatted for a while. She spoke very good English.
Upstairs, at the beginning of the session, she explained that she provides two options, 60 euros and 110 euros. The 60 euro option was standard BBBJ and fuck, the 110 option provided pretty much anything. I opted for the 110 option but told her there was no need to lick my ass. I asked if the 110 option meant an hour session and she replied no, it's for the extra services. Fair enough.
Then she just went hog wild on my willy, and my balls, licking, slurping, many different techniques, positions, with non-stop sound effects (purring, growling, moaning...). She literally attacked my willy and balls with her tongue, hands, lips, breasts, and kept an extreme level of intensity for probably 40 minutes. Even though I told her she did'nt need to lick my ass, she licked it anyway, in fact I had to roll over on my back to stop her. And then a little later she stuck her tongue in my mouth and licked everywhere. Not really my cup of tea. Because of all of the sex I'd had, I just was unable to finish in her mouth, but she was trying sooo hard. So finally, I had to say let's switch to sex, because I thought the time must be running out. But it was the most amazing blowjob I've ever had. I was able to finish in mish however. Downstairs in front of the lockers I handed her the 110 euros, and we kissed and winked and she snarled her sexy snarl. All together our session had to be over an hour, and I only paid her 110 euros, and she did'nt say a thing. Miley is a nice gal who aims to please.
* Sol from Argentina - nice face, brown eyes, long brown hair. I was waiting for her to reappear in the main bar area, and turned away several shark attacks. I finally spotted her at the bar and said hello. She was very friendly, and we went up to a room. Good session.
Sunday
Last day. I arrived around 3:00pm.
* Julie from Germany- She really wanted me to go with her, and in the end I could'nt say no. This was my 3rd session with her. Half an hour, could'nt finish.
* Dominica from Poland - I wanted to see her once last time before I left. Half an hour, excellent session.
* Sol from Brazil - Good half hour session.
* Girl from Bulgaria. For some reason I could'nt say no to her in the main bar area. An ok session, but I was unable to finish.
* Samira from Turkey - 40 minute or so session, she tried sooo hard to get me to finish, but I could'nt.
* Rosie from Greece - Long black hair. Half hour session on the same circular bed we used a few days ago. Good session.
It was a wonderful week at Artemis, and will consider returning there for a future visit. You just can’t beat it for convenience. I do believe that overall, the quality of girls is better at Golden Time, at least for my taste.
I had a chat with the manager on one of my last days there. He did say that they will flatten the auto store in front of Artemis, and build a swimming pool and outdoor lounge area.
Falco2
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[QUOTE=Falco2]I decided to visit Artemis in Berlin for this trip, rather than visiting Golden Time and Living Room like I usually do. I just had to check it out to see how it compares to the other large FKK clubs in Deutschland.
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Thanks for the report Falco2. Very informative. I have posted to the RoD thread but in all honesty this report deserves a nomination for report of the year IMO.
It is good to get a fresh perspective both on Artemis and on some of the girls I have been with (Vivian, Rosie, Charlotte to name a few).
And I am most interested in Miley and her hyper bj special. It sounds most intriguing.
AM
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[QUOTE=Falco2]I decided to visit Artemis in Berlin for this trip, rather than visiting Golden Time and Living Room like I usually do. I just had to check it out to see how it compares to the other large FKK clubs in Deutschland.
I visited Artemis seven times last week, and my general observations follow.
Falco2
[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size][/QUOTE]Falco2,
I am curious about your references to sleeping and being jet lagged -- how far did you travel? Did you go for a whole week just to visit Artemis? If so, you are not only a mongering champ but probably quite wealthy too!
M.One
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Thanks for the report Falco2. Very informative. I have posted to the RoD thread but in all honesty this report deserves a nomination for report of the year IMO.
It is good to get a fresh perspective both on Artemis and on some of the girls I have been with (Vivian, Rosie, Charlotte to name a few).
And I am most interested in Miley and her hyper bj special. It sounds most intriguing.
AM[/QUOTE]Thanks Angus Magee. I think we were there on the same night too, Sat. Sept. 5. I would have said hi had I known you were you. Maybe I did? I left some details out of my report, in particular the conversations I had with the gals. They're just memories now, but they're the ones that stand out.
Regards,
Falco2
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[QUOTE=Marine One]Falco2,
I am curious about your references to sleeping and being jet lagged -- how far did you travel? Did you go for a whole week just to visit Artemis? If so, you are not only a mongering champ but probably quite wealthy too!
M.One[/QUOTE]I'm on the west coast of the US. I needed to get away from work, rest a bit, and heck live like a king! That's what it's like in Artemis no? I planned to see more of Berlin, but I just did the bare minimum of work, and kept going back to Artemis. A couple of Berlin night clubs look like they would be fun, the Kit-Kat club and Tresor. I researched the Berlin night club scene a bit before arriving, and some of the gals confirmed that the two clubs above would be excellent. Hhrrmph, maybe next time.
Cheers,
Falco2
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]
And I am most interested in Miley and her hyper bj special. It sounds most intriguing.
AM[/QUOTE]AM, I forgot to mention, so perhaps Miley is new to Artemis, since you have'nt seen (or been with) her before. She has slightly wavy medium blonde hair, just past her shoulders, very blue eyes, and lean body with zero body fat. If someone that fits that description meows at you, grab her immediately.
Falco2
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The Russian MILFs have it
i was at artemis for two whole days last week, dessous-tag on wednesday, which i couldn’t avoid, and the thursday. as usual i was not disappointed. the club is clean with good facilities and reasonable food, so good value for eur 80 in my opinion. you can add in a couple of nice strippers each evening as well of course. i even found a shower which ran for a whole twenty seconds.
i tend to choose a theme for each fkk visit to make things more interesting . this time i decided i would force myself to be active. i would not session with any woman who approached me directly and would not enter the kino. i kept to the second resolution, but in one instance not to the first. i would also try to avoid silis.
with the initiative firmly with me i had to hone my approaching skills and my ability to attract providers’ attention from afar, especially when it got busy. artemis is ideal for many approach strategies, or would be if only my strategy were any good. it was sometimes very tricky, and it really depends on your whereabouts: good at open positions by the bar; poorer on the corner sofas; terrible the nearer you got to the dining room. and this was compounded by the fact that toscana’s eyesight and instant judgment on session prospects deteriorate the more he shags, it seems. the girls are pretty well aware where the good positions are as well. location, location, location.
there was the smile. there was the waving of the hand. there was the nod. there was the widening of the eyes. there was the beckoning with the head. there was the patting of the seat next to me. but i rarely succeeded in getting the right girls with these techniques, i am afraid. i did get dozens of ugly hopefuls i hadn’t intended to accost. i also got several puzzled punters, one cleaning lady, one bar-girl, one dining room lady, a passing electrician, and finally gave up when the taxi-drivers started complaining at reception.
it wasn’t entirely surprising, then, that i ended up going with more than my usual share of milfs. lol. nevertheless, undeterred by all this, i enjoyed seven sessions over the two days, none of them poor, two of them good, one excellent. only on one occasion did i abort because the girl would not provide basic services like kissing, which for me was an improvement at artemis. and, interestingly, i met only one of the many girls that falco2 went through the same week, and not a single romanian or bulgarian.
eleanor, russia
about 1.67 tall
about thirty, looks younger
short false blonde hair, suited to her angular face
hard body, with a/b tits, i was attracted by her sexy arse
that’s the trouble with dessous day: you can’t see the tits. and eleanor’s are, frankly, disappointingly saggy for such a hard body (dessous-tag definitely helps her, she looked much less dramatic the next day). but as with most russians she knows her way around the room, fulfilled her promises and i enjoyed a good standard opening round.
brigitte, serbia
very tall, about 1.75, but very poised
about thirty
short dark blonde dyed hair
fat-free body with good b tits, good muscle-toning
brigitte is a very professional provider who works the room well and is successful. she offers everything that i could think of. again a good standard session, no upselling pressure, a good feeling with this girl. to save juice, i faked the finish.
alina, ukraine
late twenties
about 1.67
reddish-blonde hair, wide smile
the finest b/c tits you could want to happen across, with superb pink nipples
the nipples kept winking at me across the room every hour i was there. alina works the club with her much older friend marina seeking duos. they may be together outside the club, i don’t know, but they are clearly fond of each other. i nodded to both, but with a raised index finger to tell them one only, and alina came over and cuddled in on one of the sofas at the downstairs bar. intelligent conversation, and we were off to her choice of room. this was a very good session with fine optics. kissed well, fabulous 69 with that perfect body. i let her have the initiative during sex, she converted a cowgirl expertly into spoons and insisted on finishing in that position. who was i to complain, as i could work those beautiful handfuls for minutes on end? hmmmmm.
marina, russia (not the famous one)
into her thirties
about the same height as alina
false blonde, medium length hair
c breasts, naturals, past their best
it was quite a while after alina that i set up the session with marina. she’s a lovely conversationalist, even if her body is past its best. i wanted to see what she would do in the room. she didn’t disappoint, created a lovely illusion of passion, and we had a great time. no end of kissing, and a great bbbj, slow, sloppy, hands-free, long-shaft and all the time scratching her fingernails lightly over the toscana scrotum. my kind of girl, and i happily extended for an hour. fourth session of the day, and ramrod erect. she got me off no trouble.
i was pretty beat after that, but wanted an optickfick to end the day.
sadi, poland
dyed, wavy, auburn-coloured hair halfway down the back
about 20
about 1.63
shapely b breasts, rather dark skin for a polish girl
the only girl, i think, that falco2 and i shared, albeit unwittingly. i wasn’t quite so impressed as falco was, but she’s a good session. it was late. she kisses nicely and we had a good 69 session too. sadi then wanted me to bring her off, but bent me round into a rather tortuous daty position. we got there at the expense of a stiff neck and lost erection. she worked hard to get a bit of life back into the old soldier, and we managed last-gasp penetration in mish. after that it was relatively plain-sailing with good optics in the mirrors. both fresher, i would repeat to see if she could really get me dancing.
next day i took my time. i must have rejected about 20 hopefuls before setting off to the room again. of course the girls were much more viewable without bikinis or lingerie, and there were some nice new ones, even on first shift. everyone was very relaxed. one girl i did call over was theodora from hungary, who i remembered was reviewed here (tall, slim, short black hair, glasses). i was indeed tempted, but we couldn’t agree on services, so i passed. she was always pretty busy, which is a good sign.
finally i plumped for the latina look as a change from all the blondes around the place.
stefana, hungary
about 30
long black straight hair, tied back
darker skin (father italian)
about 1.63
nice b breasts
stefana is a pro, has the talk, wraps her thighs sexily round you on the couch. she is positively reviewed recently on a german forum. i was convinced by her quite quickly, i must say, and my judgment was ok. her body is very firm and smooth from the regular creaming, and she was quite heavily but skilfully made up. attractive appearance. got her to take off the lipstick, but after the initial exchanges she avoided further kissing. she was also determined to take me the anal route, but in the end i refused, not because it wasn’t an enticing prospect, i am sure she’s tight, but because i just couldn’t see her getting me excited enough to enjoy it confidently. true to the motto, first get in, then stay in. :-) :-). bbbj and 69 fine without being any great highlight. we started off in cowgirl, but i can’t remember now how i finished, so it can’t have been a particularly memorable experience.
hung around lazily for a while, mainly on that open crescent couch at the bottom of the spiral staircase. you know the one i mean. always entertaining to pretend to be asleep, but still peep out at the long legs and abundant array of lightly bouncing tits going up and down the stairs. best not to seek eye contact there, as you are right in the firing line. it’s a damn good location.
this pretended slumber didn’t stop irina, who came and gently folded herself around me on the couch. she is a big girl indeed, and very much the wrong side of thirty. so she’s too big, too buxom, too old, too ugly, relative to others at any rate. i must have lost my presence of mind. couldn’t send her away. she smiled at me, we talked, she stroked me behind the neck, looked deep into my eyes. no pressure. she was interesting, we must have spent half an hour chatting like this, as i got more and more morbidly fascinated by those tits. she wears one of those heavy cutaway bikini tops which leave the breast and nipples free, but giving urgent support to stop ‘em bouncing down to her knees when walking. she has two big problems in her life there, and she was constantly having to hoik them back into the overworked garment. the left tit fell out twice, the right one four times, during our conversation. i was counting. after the deed she came down to see me at the downstairs bar, and it was even more dramatic. they had a life of their own! entertaining though.
so sometimes you do something crazy.
irina, russia
late thirties? the face showed it, the body showed it
about 1.68
long brown hair
big floppy d+ tits
we liked each other immensely by the time we got to the room, and she promptly set about me. wonderful it was, even though those bags hang like half-empty italian tomatoes with a fruity nipple on the bottom. i’d sampled the kissing downstairs, and she just carried on mercilessly. i wasn’t arguing and soon told her to take her time, we would be there for an hour at least. so before he knew what was happening to him little tosc was engulfed by these soft tits, being rubbed up and down rhythmically, and on each upward stroke he entered this gorgeously warm wet mouth to be given a swirling lick. irina managed to keep this up for ages, i just closed my eyes and drifted away. fantastic stuff. she wanted me to make her come, but said it would take her time. i suggested that’s fine, but by now it was important that she keep me erect as we might lose it later. little tosc can be an unconcentrated bugger sometimes on the second day. so we switched to 69. i got her there with some time and quite a lot of effort, but it was a pleasure for me too. irina then took over quickly, blew expertly and then staged an incredible crunching hand-job finish. i had my eyes closed, but it felt like she had released a huge fountain. she could have easily taken me for a cim finish, but didn’t exploit the situation. didn’t even get round to a fuck, but the eur 120 were completely irrelevant to what i received from irina. these russian mothers just get it right. recommended for personality and skill, despite everything.
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Threesome?
Hi guys,
This weekend I am planning to spend all my time in Artemis :) I wonder if anyone went to room with 2 ladies,is it possible? And how much does it costs?
Thanks
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Thursday 17/9
Quick report from my hotelroom.
3 girls.
1 man.
Jenna - big big fake (but very good) tits, blonde, german. Absolutely fantastic BBBJ. No hands, saliva, ball-licking. I came when she titty-fucked me and I screamed all over the place with a ton of cum. The only bad(?) in that session were that I could not last long and for every trust when we fucked I almost came.
Chayenne? - half germ/half croatia, dark hair, so sweet smile and face. Good but she told me there were 5 minutes left when it was 15. She sad that she looked at the wrong hand on the watch. Yeah right, but for me it did not do any diffrence because I only could hold on for 15 minutes before I had to came haha.
Man - massage for 40 minutes. Non-sexual ofcourse but it felt like an orgasm.
Maria - hungarian, blond, 26. Very friendly and even put up her hair when she gave me the BJ in the Kino downstairs. This time I could hold on the longest heh..
All sex downstairs in Kino and the rooms there. I like to get a BJ in the sofa and then fuck on the "room". Between the sessions I hang mostley on the sofa or what to call it under the stairs and talked whith a very friendly german man. Hello there! Pay the bill and start reporting! =)
Worst of the day: I am eating in the dining room (very good food as its free) and talking a little with the girls at my table. Another girl at another table tells me to zip it and leave the girls alone. I told her that they could speak for them selfs. Ironic, because they started to talk with me first. O_o o_O
The girls that told me to zip it were from albania/moldavia. Why does these girls often have such bad attitude? I even saw a few making fun behind some other mans backs and kind of trashtalking them. Strange too see because I would never support them with my money, but they maybe have so much so they dont care? Ironicly (again) I guess its these girls that have pimps and shit that take some of their money. I talked with some girls and they thought 40-50% have someone behind for "protection". My illusion for the perfect P4P set up went down this night. Not sure I will go back today.
Cheers,
Kid.
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Questions
Thank you all for the great reports from Artemis!
I'm planning soon to visit there for my first time and I just have a few questions if someone can help me;
1. If you want CIM is it 50 euro and the rate is set by the house?
2. Is CIM allways bareback (without condom) if you want it?
3. When you're in the bathrobe do you have money on you so it's easy "go to room" right away? Or do you allways go to your locker to get some after making an "deal" with a girl?
I think some of these questions have been here before, but I've seen different answers and got little confused.
Once again thanks for the detailed and great reports! I can't wait to arrive at Artemis.
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Thank you all for the great reports from Artemis!
I`m planning soon to visit there for my first time and I just have a few questions
if someone can help me;
1. If you want CIM is it 50 euro and the rate is set by the house?
2. Is CIM allways bareback (without condom) if you want it?
3. When you´re in the bathrobe do you have money on you so it´s easy "go to room" right away? Or do you allways go to your locker to get some after making an "deal" with a girl?
I think some of these questions have been here before, but I´ve seen different answers and got little confused.
Once again thanks for the detailed and great reports! I can´t wait to arrive at Artemis
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Rajko
[QUOTE=Rajko43]Thank you all for the great reports from Artemis!
I`m planning soon to visit there for my first time and I just have a few questions
if someone can help me;
1. If you want CIM is it 50 euro and the rate is set by the house?
2. Is CIM allways bareback (without condom) if you want it?
3. When you´re in the bathrobe do you have money on you so it´s easy "go to room" right away? Or do you allways go to your locker to get some after making an "deal" with a girl?
I think some of these questions have been here before, but I´ve seen different answers and got little confused.
Once again thanks for the detailed and great reports! I can´t wait to arrive at Artemis[/QUOTE]1. Yes, it's the rate. Legally I don't think it can be formally set by the house, but it is the usance.
2. Yes.
3. You keep your money in your money locker (if you're sensible), which is operated by the same key as your main clothes locker. You will see the bank of money lockers from reception in fact. After the session she will follow you like a very faithful puppy to the locker, where you pay her the due amount. She will then release your testicles.
You need not make a deal on time or services in advance with the girl. That's part of the charm of the FKK. You can adapt to the situation when you are in the room, as opposed to the bordello where you tend to order services in advance and pay for them. What IS a good idea, certainly at Artemis, is to check with the girl in advance which services she does or does not do. This does not commit you to taking these services up of course. They are usually pleased if you do this, as it reduces the likelihood of misunderstandings considerably.
Have no fear. It's all pretty obvious when you are there. Hope you enjoy yourself.
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[QUOTE=Beko25]Hi guys,
This weekend I am planning to spend all my time in Artemis :) I wonder if anyone went to room with 2 ladies,is it possible? And how much does it costs?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
I did not bring two ladies to a room myself, but it is something that happens regularly at Artemis. Many times, girls will even hunt for men in pairs, trying to sell them their special lesbo show and duo treatment.
The price tag is 60 euro/girl/30 minutes to start with, that is 120 euro/30 minutes. But if you would like the girls to have sex with eachother, there is usually an even higher price for that... My suggestion is this: Make very sure before you go to a room that you have communicated thoroughly about the price. There might be a nasty surprise if you don't.
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[QUOTE=Charles Browne]I did not bring two ladies to a room myself, but it is something that happens regularly at Artemis. Many times, girls will even hunt for men in pairs, trying to sell them their special lesbo show and duo treatment.
The price tag is 60 euro/girl/30 minutes to start with, that is 120 euro/30 minutes. But if you would like the girls to have sex with eachother, there is usually an even higher price for that... My suggestion is this: Make very sure before you go to a room that you have communicated thoroughly about the price. There might be a nasty surprise if you don't.[/QUOTE]
Very good advise CB. As you say the price tag for two girls would be 120/half hour and that is if they just concentrate you you. If you ask them to do a lez show the price will jump another 50 euros per girl. And if you CIM and hit both mouths that will be another 50 euros/girl. And if your dick happens to slide up both anus (what the hell is plural for anus?)ad on another 200.
No wonder the girls like the threesomes.
Make sure that things are clear before your dick gets hard and all the blood drains from your big head to your little one.
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[QUOTE=Rajko43]2. Is CIM allways bareback (without condom) if you want it?[/QUOTE]
Well yes technically CIM is always bareback as you are Coming In Mouth and not in a condom.
I do myself though occasionally ask the girl to slip on a condom before she finishes me in her mouth. This is not CIM but can (if the girl is any good at bj's) feel pretty damn good and will avoid the 50 euro CIM extra charge. I tend to do this with girls who know me and with whom I can be quite frank about the state of my finances on any given day.
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee] And if your dick happens to slide up both anus (what the hell is plural for anus?)ad on another 200.
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I've just emailed the Pope, who is very well versed in Latin. He assures me the plural for anus = ani, okay?
O
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[QUOTE=Ortos]I've just emailed the Pope, who is very well versed in Latin. He assures me the plural for anus = ani, okay?
O[/QUOTE]
And I am sure he would know very well;-))
With apologies to any Catholics who read this.
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]
With apologies to any Catholics who read this.[/QUOTE]
..and I thougt religious people didn't read on this forum..
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[QUOTE=Toscana]1. Yes, it's the rate. Legally I don't think it can be formally set by the house, but it is the usance.
2. Yes.
3. You keep your money in your money locker (if you're sensible), which is operated by the same key as your main clothes locker. You will see the bank of money lockers from reception in fact. After the session she will follow you like a very faithful puppy to the locker, where you pay her the due amount. She will then release your testicles.
You need not make a deal on time or services in advance with the girl. That's part of the charm of the FKK. You can adapt to the situation when you are in the room, as opposed to the bordello where you tend to order services in advance and pay for them. What IS a good idea, certainly at Artemis, is to check with the girl in advance which services she does or does not do. This does not commit you to taking these services up of course. They are usually pleased if you do this, as it reduces the likelihood of misunderstandings considerably.
Have no fear. It's all pretty obvious when you are there. Hope you enjoy yourself.[/QUOTE]Thank you very much for the info!! I can´t wait to go there.
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Well yes technically CIM is always bareback as you are Coming In Mouth and not in a condom.
I do myself though occasionally ask the girl to slip on a condom before she finishes me in her mouth. This is not CIM but can (if the girl is any good at bj's) feel pretty damn good and will avoid the 50 euro CIM extra charge. I tend to do this with girls who know me and with whom I can be quite frank about the state of my finances on any given day.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. Appreciate it!
Soon heading for Berlin
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A Slow Saturday
As my work commitments fell through I went for my now quite regular Saturday afternoon/evening visit last night.
Again I arrived early and business was very quiet. I read a good deal in the downstairs bar spotting one of my regulars (Vivian-Slowakia. Reported upon by Falco2 last week) with another client. I waited until she was free and then we had a nice chat and the usual pleasant session. This girl gets very, very wet which I always love.
As evening fell I ate and then sat a good long while in the bar on one of the far sofas and just observed. A good number of girls had arrived by 20:00, a better quality & selection than last week, and the white robed population was sparse. Thus the girls were getting more and more aggressive in their approach.
Connie was back and to tell the truth I would have probably gone to the room with her. I find her quite a stunner and that small tight butt she waves around just begs to be worshipped & licked. But the girl just does not seem to understand that all I want is a little chat & tease before heading to the room. She sits down. spreads her legs so I get a good look at her pussy and then immediately starts to pester me to find a room. And my interest wanes despite the tempting little morsel in front of me.
It is a bit funny because I know that she is a good performer but lately I find myself wanting at least a little concession from these girls.
Down to the platform at the base of the stairs. I lounged there for a good long while watching the girls as they frantically tried to find a guy willing to go to the room. As I say it was really very quiet even at 22:00 or 23:00.
Then I noticed Rod Stewart (the manager look-a-like) who seemed to be showing a girl I had never seen before around.
Interesting.
A while later I spotted her at the downstairs bar talking to the bartender. I ordered a latte, gave her a smile and headed for a couch. After a few minutes of chatting with the bartender she gets up, smiles at me and comes over.
Kylie (apparently after Kylie Minogue though there no resemblance) turned out to be new at Artemis though says that she has worked at other FKK and likes to move around. She is 23, German, dark shoulder length hair, pretty face but not a stunner. She wears little if any make-up. Not the typical Artemis girl.
After an immediate suggestion from her that we have some fun (at which I kind of snapped) I suggested we sit and chat for a while. She was okay with this and we started to talk. She speaks very good English and was an intelligent, genuine conversationalist. We spoke for the best part of 45 mins. to an hour, slowly getting a bit more intimate.
At this point I suggested a room and after a quick trip to the shower for me off we went. She had no idea of the lay out upstairs so after some confusion in finding a suitable room. We first went to #17 but after seeing it was no bigger or nicer that # 14, the broom closet, I insisted we get a nicer one. And there were a couple available at midnight. This gives an idea of just how slow it was last night.
So in the room was better than I had imagined. After telling Kylie I was interested in half an hour I quickly, after some licking to which she was very responsive, upgraded to the hour. Great session to be sure-total GFE for ol’ Angus with a skilled bj from her and fucking in which she full participated and enjoyed.Again, one thing a girl can not fake is getting really wet.
Afterwards we again chatted for a while and then we went to the cash locker where I happily paid her and then hit the showers, got dressed & left. All in all a good evening.
Again I will mention that a week this Tuesday (29/09/09) is the 4th year anniversary party for Artemis. I asked a couple of girls about it and was told that last year it was quite busy at the party. But last year it was held on a weekend.
Apparently it can be quite a good party with extra good food, drinks (wine, champagne), strippers & entertainment and door prizes. Maybe not the best night for the room action but it could be a good time so at the moment I plan to be there. Anyone else who is heading this way and wants to meet just let me know and we can arrange something.
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I love parties :) I will be there Angus, thats my last night in Berlin and I will go to airport from artemis before midnight :) than how can we meet?
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[QUOTE=Beko25]I love parties :) I will be there Angus, thats my last night in Berlin and I will go to airport from artemis before midnight :) than how can we meet?[/QUOTE]
If you can send me a pm or receive pms we can set it up that way. That is I can send a description and we can meet somewhere in Artemis at a specified time.
If not then perhaps we can meet at the entrance or something at a time we both agree on. I am hoping to get there as early as I can. I will be working Tuesday until, at the latest, 15:00. So I hope to get to Artemis no later than 17:00, perhaps a bit sooner.
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Artemis - Sunday smorgasbord
Recent trip to Berlin for meeting at ICC.
I flew in from US and therefore was going to be awake late so I decided to walk down Hallensee from the ICC and found it no problem. It is on the road going north towards the ICC - Hallensee sits near the A100. Artermis is close to the Westkreuz S bahn station - East West trains were not running because of track work when i was there.
Arrived Sunday around 9.30pm. Very pleasant multilingual young women on the counter explained the system.
Eighty euro all day, 60 euro per 30 min with gals. Unstated charges 50 Euro for CIM or COF and 100 Euro for A levels. Alcoholic drinks need a 10 Euro token from front - expensive Beer!
I cruised in, had a shower, got into robe and went into the upstairs bar to give it a pass and find the dining area since I was hungry.
I then got a drink and sat and watch. All the girls has bare breasts - this is not always the case - not sure of there is a reason for this.
I was approach by Alina blonde maybe in early 30s from Kalingrad in Russia. She was pushy and direct - do you want to fuck? maybe later, no maybes, its either yes or no. Well, i guess its no. She skulked off and sat down and smoked a series of cigarettes.
I also talked to Mary, blonde Bulgarian from north of Sofia, late 20s. Nice and keen to make a deal but less pushy. Told me she would keep a dance for me.
I spotted this girl who i thought was Brazilian, but no really interactive.
I called her over, weak English but a little Espanol. Amee (Amelia) - 26 yo from Curitiba near Sao Paulo [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curitiba[/url]. Married German guy but divorced. Great butt and lips, augmented breasts. We did deal, I asked for 30 min then upgraded to one hour and took the A level option. Excellent protracted DFK, BBBJ, good ball licking. Energetic and passionate to the max. Multiple positions. Asked to tit fuck her, which I did until I came. Spent about 90 min the room - damage 220 Euro - an hour plus 100 Euro for the A level.
I was exhausted and needs a beer. Got token, got beer went to sauna and pool to relax. I spent a couple of hours swanning around. Eventually, Mary came by sat with me. She smokes and has breast augments and is blonde, normally not my deal. She is quite funny, dry sense of humor. I told her I was tired, she asked whether I can get it up - she offered me her version of Viagra - rub her tits against my face and let me play with a superb piece of her bum. Ok we were off - 30 min session, mainly with her on top then some positions. Watched her breasts go back and forward as I banged her doggy style. Excellent oral skills good pillow talk.
I left around 3.30am Taxi to hotel.
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A-Level ???
[QUOTE=Bearsk]
Eighty euro all day, 60 euro per 30 min with gals. Unstated charges 50 Euro for CIM or COF and 100 Euro for A levels.
Spent about 90 min the room - damage 220 Euro - an hour plus 100 Euro for the A level.
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Hey,
Dropped by the place last night. First visit for me for some time.
Could you please enlighten me to the "A level" business? Sounds eerily like the occasional scam perpetrated by the occasional Palace or Paradise gal when they charge extra to things like kissing or GFE. Or, am I missing something?
Bulgarians Danya and Eva have set up shop at Artemis now. Danaya is still looking good!
Cheers,
Dedalus
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[QUOTE=Dedalus]Hey,
Dropped by the place last night. First visit for me for some time.
Could you please enlighten me to the "A level" business? Sounds eerily like the occasional scam perpetrated by the occasional Palace or Paradise gal when they charge extra to things like kissing or GFE. Or, am I missing something?
Bulgarians Danya and Eva have set up shop at Artemis now. Danaya is still looking good!
Cheers,
Dedalus[/QUOTE]
Could A level be anal? That would make sense.
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[QUOTE=Akibono]Could A level be anal? That would make sense.[/QUOTE]
Hey Aki,
Could indeed. I may need to get hip on the new lingo.
Cheers,
Dedalus
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[QUOTE=Dedalus]Hey Aki,
Could indeed. I may need to get hip on the new lingo.
Cheers,
Dedalus[/QUOTE]
Indeed "A Level" refers to Anal.
I have recently heard of a girl who offers an upgraded half hour for 110 euros and for this includes an extra enthusiastic bbbj with rimming. Not sure if I would take her up on it but the rimming is tempting. Though one of my regulars includes the rim job (brave girl!) at not extra cost so I would probably pass.
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A level
As Angus confirms A-Level is for anal. If you look at agency sites in England, you'll find it very often bannered for those girls that offer it. (It's virtually de rigueur for the Asians, such is the competition ;-) ).
I'm no lawyer, but I think it's a deliberate euphemism for something it's a good idea not to spell out expressis verbis, but the Brits know what is meant. Or maybe it's just coyness, because we nice Brits don't talk about that sort of thing. In fact we only talk about sex at all under extreme duress. :-) :-) The reference is to one of the higher level exams in the English school system. Or used to be at any rate in my day.
Back to topic....
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Mittwoch prelude
I returned to Artermis on the Wednesday. Checked in around 3pm with the knowledge I needed to leave for a 6pm meeting then planned to return.
The check procedure is that they take your locker key and keep it with your first name (can you leave stuff in your locker?) and you sign a sheet to leave and then sign when you return you sign back in and get a new robe. Quite efficient.
I will report more fully soon.
Another question: The Turkish massage by the guys downstairs - is there an extra fee or a tip? How does that work? This is something of interest to me for future.
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[QUOTE=Bearsk]Another question: The Turkish massage by the guys downstairs - is there an extra fee or a tip? How does that work? This is something of interest to me for future.[/QUOTE]They are independent, so you pay them their fee separately depending on the service. I think there is a price list on the wall beside the massage benches. I would just ask them, they are very friendly (and well occupied, so must be pretty good). Tips? Dunno. Doubt it. This is Germany.
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Wednesday - some detail
Thanks for the response on the massage.
I scouted the talent around 3pm on the Wednesday. Notables included Viviana from Slovakia, previously reported. She appealed, cute, slim, nice ass, reasonably tall, good English - "would you like a little love?" She said. Indeed, but I had spotted a tall languid thing from Brasil named Kim. 23 years old from San Paulo, 169cm tall, shoulder length hair, breast probably 35B - natural, excellent lips, lives in Frankfurt with her sister. For me she is a 9.
In the room, enthusiastic kisser with lots of tongue, great breasts - nipples come erect in mouth but needs gentle on breasts and clit. BBBJ excellent technique, 69 till she was quite wet.
She then covered me up and jumped on top - start sedately - "you are big, slow to start, Ok" - yes, Maam. In couple of minutes she was grinding her clit on me while i playing with her breasts as they bounced up and and down in what is certainly one of the best fucks of my life. Mish, energetic then to doggie where her back look great and i watched her face in the mirror. She then backed off the bed and put her built up shoes on before bending forward and asking me if I could fuck her like this. After a couple of minutes she moved so she could balance her hands on the top of the heater on the wall. This gave me a great view in the mirror behind the bed with her tits rocking back and forward and my cock sliding in and out. We hammered away for several minutes and she started to go wild, her vaginal juice oozing down her thighs and then seeming to climax. She then took a brief pause before kneeling front of me for a BBBJ and titfuck. I came on her tits. We lay there for a while and talked. Damage 120Euro for an hour, gift of perfume and a scarf.
I showered and headed out to a dinner meeting.
I arrive back around 930pm, no problems checking back in. There were lots of guys but few biting which produced some irritation for the girls. Viviana had left. There were some notables around - three more Brasilians - Loma and Tiana from Bahia (Mulatas) and Amanda from RDJ - she was dark svelt and hot. Tall red head named Marlena. A blonde Bulgarian Sania, pretty face, great ass and legs, fake tits. She is friend of Mary. There was also a cute Thai girl from Isaan, Udon Thani - Lekki.
Mary pursued me and while she was not on my to do list for this second visit, i do like her dry sense of humor and she is the consumate courtesan - remembers customers and details, excellent BBBJ and a very good fuck. So i went with Mary for 30 min - well worth while. On recovery, I looked at the field and went for Lekki. We had to wait for a room on the lounge - she got things rolling with a hand job under my robe. In the room, she start with an abbreviated version of Thai massage - which was pretty good - then a standard routine with lots of energy and enthusiasm.
Having done that and cleaned up it was after 1am and I was due to fly in a few hours, I got a taxi back to the hotel.
Until next time.
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[QUOTE=Bearsk]
Another question: The Turkish massage by the guys downstairs - is there an extra fee or a tip? How does that work? This is something of interest to me for future.[/QUOTE]
I think that they charge 30 Euros/half an hour for massage. I've heard good things and bad things about the massage they give. But I often see the girls using their service so I figure it can not be that bad a massage.
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Artemis 4 Year Birthday Bash
As I have been very much a regular at Artemis this past year I decided I had to arrange to visit on the night of September 29th-their 4 year anniversary party. So after setting up a day off for Wednesday, so I could stay late, I made my way there and arrived early at 16:30 on Tuesday.
Lots of activity when I arrived as they were setting things up and there seemed to be more than the usual number of men around a a bit of a shortage of women. A sign of things to come?
Now I had just finished a long stretch of work (9 days straight-long days) and I really wondered if I should be visiting at all. In truth I just did not feel physically up to a long late night visit. So I headed down to the wellness area and spent the next couple of ours in the sauna, pool and resting on the couches. Not quite sleeping but eyes more or less closed.
At around 18:45 I headed up to find something to eat. The dining room had been a bit transformed into a more formal setting with long tables, white table cloths and waiters. No self serve here. You ordered of a short menu (a couple of choices) and were served your meal along with wine and a nice desert-chocolate souffle or panna cotta.
This was all very well but the whole thing was sort of clumsily executed. The service was hectic-though fast enough-and the food was good but with a couple of pretty major twists. For example-the diner was served with sauerkraut, weisskohl or red cabbage. I ordered the red cabbage expecting the cooked red cabbage. What was served was cold shredded red cabbage dressed with a bit of vinegar. You know, like what they put in your Döner. Kind of disappointing when you are expecting a good cooked red cabbage.
But we are here for the girls are we not? So after finishing the meal with glass of nice red wine I went out to scope the scene. By this time it was past 19:30 and I figured all the girls would have arrived by now. Looking around I noticed that there were plenty of gils but none (none!) of my favorites were anywhere to be seen:-((.
No Rosie, no Vivian, no Kylie. Not even Conny was there-who, while she fails miserably with the pre-session flirting, at least provides a spectacularly porn-y bj for which I was sort of in the mood.
But none were there. I recognized many of the girls but was not really stimulated by many. And they seemed to be more in party mode than business mode. Fair enough as this was a party but I guess I was not so much in full party mode so there was a bit of a gap between where I was at and the rest of the room.
I made the best of it and wandered around trying to find a girl who made my interest meter flicker-for later I thought-but came up more or less empty. There was one girl who I noted (Christa I think) and decided to see if I could meet her later.
By this time there were lots and lots of men and the complimentary beer was flowing. I had a beer and then went down to the base of of the stairs. Some girls seemed to be still working, and would come down to check the kino, but most of the action remained in the upstairs bar.
There was brazilian dancing (but to tell the truth I kind of wondered if the the dancers weren’t drag queens!!) and a good belly dancer and I would pop up every once in a while to check this stuff out. Then at around 22:00-22:30 the whole bar emptied into the parking lot to watch the fireworks display and toast Artemis with some very nice Moët et Chandon with Ride of the Valkyries booming over the loud speaker system.
Back inside was was coming to the conclusion that the night was a bust. I headed to the base of the stairs-slightly drunk and feeling less like fucking and more like sleeping-and just chilled until I decided to ask the time and probably leave.
Now it turns out that the guy I happened to ask was ISG member “Firewalkwithme”.We had emailed each other and he had told me he might be there but as I did not run into him before I figured he had bailed on the evening. We spent the next hour and a bit talking and checking out the girls but both agreed that things were not at their best this night. The party was winding down and the girls now went into business mode with lots and lots of men to chose from. For a couple of mongers such as FWWM and Ol’Angus the pickings were slim.
But no matter-It was fun to chat and compare notes. FWWM left at around 01:00 and I hung in for another 45 mins still trying to get the old interest meter to flicker with Christa. But I really had no energy for the chase which it would require as she was one of the hotter girls there last night and had no shortage of suitors.
So at 01:45 I packed my bags and left, only to discover that the S-Bahn (Ring Bahn) stops for several hours on weekdays nights so my usual transport home was gone. Having no energy for night buses and a bulging wallet due to the fact that I had not even one session, I quickly jumped in a cab and was home in less than 15 minutes.
So I would have to call the Artemis B-day bash a bit of a bust. Glad I went but I would not go again next year. The regular nights are much more enjoyable for me.
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A few favourites.......
Hi,
It's been a while since I've posted, but I have done plenty of 'research' in the interim. Here follows some quick notes on some of the girls that I've had the pleasure of experiencing (principally, the ones who were good enough for me to remember their names! ):.
SELMA. 30-ish, Moldavian/Yugoslavian. 5'10'' tall, v. Large breasts, full figure (not fat), blond hair, currently cropped quite short:.
Selma disappeared off the scene before the summer, but last month she re-appeared with a new hairstyle and boob job. She jumped on me the moment I walked in, 'Charlie, Charlie', kiss, kiss etc etc. She seems to have a thing for me, this girl, and she is certainly my favourite of all the girls that I've been with at Artemis. I've done duettes with her and several other girls, as well as half-a-dozen sessions with her alone. She is a 'full-service' provider with a fabulous attitude to sex, delivers a wicked sloppy blowjob and is a great choice for 1-1 or threesomes. A terrific and genuine GFE (for me at least). I've never seen any reports on this thread from anyone else on this girl, but she's been working there for years, so I can't be the only one to have partaken. Speaks several languages, but not English.
BETTY – mid/late 20's – Moldavian – 5'8'' tall – full figure, large naturals – long sandy blond hair:.
This girl served as my substitute for Selma whilst she was on the missing list, and a very decent alternative she proved to be too. Very friendly, super blowjob technique, unhurried approach to every session that I had with her and very much up for threesome as well. Recommended. Can't wait to do her and Selma together, but Bella seems to have disappeared for the time being.
CATHERINE – 21 (maximum) – Romanian – petite 5'2'' or so, A-cup, long dark wavy hair, elfin face.
This little cutie sidled up to me on the sofa by the entrance to the lounge one Wednesday during September, lay down on top of me and started whispering in very good English about her sexual preferences in a very explicit and horny manner. After a drink and a cigarette we went off to the room where she displayed an experience and know-how well beyond her tender years. A superb blowjob, a terrific fuck in her tight shaven pussy and then a pre-arranged finish with me cumming all over her face while she lay on her back fingering herself. A definite repeat for me if I ever see her again, but she did claim to be over in Berlin for just that week and there's no guarantee she'll re-emerge. If you happen to stumble across this girl and can recognise her from my description, do not hesitate to take her for a spin. And don't be shy to ask her for whatever you want from her – this is a girl who'll do anything and do it well.
CHARLEY – early 20's, German from Hamburg – tall, slim, toned body, long blond hair, and very pretty, model figure
I got approached by this very pleasant and well-spoken girl early one quiet afternoon during the summer. She wasn't originally what I thought I was looking for, so I tried to brush her off, but she just stayed on the adjacent sofa chatting very pleasantly in her perfect English until I realised that she was actually a gem. A really nice, educated and interesting girl. She is also a dynamite performer, giving a leisurely and masterful wet blowjob administered in a thoroughly unhurried and professional manner. Fucking her was a treat. She has a beautiful face, a fabulous slim body with not an ounce of fat, a tight pussy and perfectly sculpted tits. I ended up cumming in her from behind in front of the mirror – a vision that will remain in my mind for many a month to come. I haven't seen her since, but she is a definite repeat for me and highly recommended to anybody who hasn't yet experienced the pleasure of a session with her.
MARIANNE – 28 (she said), from St Petersburg – mid-length blond hair – C cups – slim but not thin – 'girl-next-door' look
I had two sessions with this girl in June on consecutive days and both were terrific. On the first occasion we had a super but standard 'suck and fuck' outing, on the second time I extended to an hour with her. The second occasion I recall somewhat better – we exchanged leisurely oral, then cowgirl and mish, and I ended up wanking off over her tits whilst she frigged herself to an 'O'. It may have been that 'chemistry' thing at work, and I couldn't promise that anybody else would have as good a time with her as I did, but I suspect that this girl would be an enjoyable partner for any punter who clicks with her. I haven't seen her again since the summer, but she is always one of the ones I look out for when I visit Artemis.
There have of course been countless other girls that I have sessioned with during my fifteen or so visits to the club this year, but the lasses above are the ones that stuck in my mind. There have been a few disasters, a greater number of good/very good sessions, but the 5 girls named above were the ones that gave me my best experiences at Artemis.
BTW, I will be in town on Thursday this week, so if anybody fancies meeting up at Artemis to compare notes and share recommendations the plz let me know.
I will try to be more regular and punctual in my reporting in future.
Cheers
Charlie
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Artemis day 1--4 sessions
After a first night getting warmed up at KD and Liberty (posted on Berlin board), I got up the courage to go to Artemis. I arrived at noon for breakfast and was the usual slow crowd of about 10 guys and 3-4 girls. It was a good time to get something to eat and get oriented. I wanted to get one session down so I could recover for more.
1) Antonia, Romania. Blond, short hair, petite in every way. She gave a nice session and orientation. She comuntes from Frankfurt for a couple of weeks at a time and stays on the 4th floor so is mostly available all hours.
2) Akatarina, Siberia. She was wandering earlier and approached me and I wasn't ready but later gave a try--good standard session with a little 69.
In between these 1st two--enjoyed the Sauna extensively, slept, listned to my ipod--can't use a blackberry though.
Met a Swedish older fellow who was talkative and has been coming regularily since it opened and gave great further info on the place. He has had no issues with the girls or STDs, etc. And really mongers no where else.
Sat with him at dinner and he introduced me to Sara "the Secretary, " named for her carefully tied up hair and secretary looking glasses. Sara went with him after dinner but arranged for me to meet at 9:30.
3) There was plenty of time before Sara, so found Jenna, German. She is on the webpage--one of the few I saw who are. She is blond with fairly nicely enhanced breasts. If you want to just experience huge breasts, this is a good ride and although I found her at the bar waiting quietly, she was up and down the stairs farily regularily from them on. This was a good session with some Russian massaging of course.
4) Now time for Sara--perhaps not the amazing body you would just go after, but turned out to be the best session of the night. Lots of dirty talk, DATY, 69, all positions, BBBJ alternating with sex, and a great finish. With leftover time, she smoked a cig and asked me to rub her ass. Of interest--she does not approach guys as a matter of principle.
Other first day comments:
Yes there are girls that roam the place looking for action--best to avoid or talk for a while to be sure first.
If you sit in the Cinema they will pounce on you and go for your dick.
If you sit on the couch under the stairs, it's a great place to girl watch, but they will sit by you and try to get you going to a room.
Where to go when between sessions? About the only place they don't go is the Sauna, the pool, and the pool decking (although they may lean through the railing and try for your attention.)
This is so easy and seemingly safe its hardly mongering.
Is the 80 Euro worth the food and facilities? I think so, so what you are left with is 60 Euro/30 min sessions with BBBJ--very competitive by apartment standards. Plus at night there are 30 girls parading around nude which in and of itself is unique and enjoyable and worth fending off some advances.
There was 1 black girl there that had kind of a Beyonce look to here--Oh my god did she get run up and down the stairs non-stop in the evenning. Not my taste.
Drawbacks?
The sessions are really not 30 min as discussed before. They go right for your dick with their mouth within minutes of starting and get you suited up and in them fairly soon after, so if you can pump for more than 10 minutes after, my hats off to you. Regulars may be better prepared to slow down the session.
There were a couple of girls so annoying with advances that when other guys took them upstairs I found myself cheering: "yeah, somebody fuck this girl so we can have some peace down here."
The pricing for extras are huge--can't imagine very many go for these when you can just spend the dough on more sessions later. The 10 euro beer is silly--almost like they really don't want people drinking (probably a good idea anyway).
Yes the girls are nude but they wear various cutouts and partial coverings and various footware. Some of it is ridiculous looking-- 8 inch platform heels, etc. I'd be just as happy if they were just nude with flipflops and half as much makeup. I think a water day would be great where they can swim and use the sauna with us.
Maybe some of you like the "hooker" shoes?
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Artemis day 2--back for 4 more
i didn't really plan or budget for a 2nd day, nor know how much more i could perform after 6 sessions total in 36 hours. i am not in my 20's anymore. neverthless, day 1 was so good and the opportunity for another day was there.
arrived at noon again for breakfast. today was a little different in that some of the girls were eating breakfast covered in their towels, no make up, flip flops, i. e. not working yet. got some nice flashes as they re-adjusted their towels--nice way to enjoy a morning coffee. they sat together so i left them alone. we'll come back to these gals.
chatted with antonia again (day 1 session 1) but did not want any repeats.
1) found mariana, st petersburg. the swedish guy from day 1 recommended her also. by the face she looks anywhere from 35-45, but her body still looks 25-35. nice standard session in the kino--hoping for more talking but again, straight to the dick with the mouth (not a bad problem to have).
at this point i must say that after having spent 11am to 1am there for day 1, i knew the facilities could not entertain me for a long interval again. i went for a sauna, shower, swim routine and then planned to check out to see the city.
however.
while in the sauna, 2 of the gals from breakfast showed up in the buff and joined me. we talked a little. they later moved on from the 90c sauna (very hot) to the 60c sauna. after i had showerd, swam, and sat on a deck chair with a coke, the 2 gals emerged from the 60c sauna and went to the showers. no big deal--just 2 nude girls in their 20's having a shower. there were 10 or so guys around the pool minding their business and conversations. my chair was pointed right at them so i could just watch and enjoy.
but then things got more interesting as the girls started soaping themselves up. a few heads start turning more often to watch and the girls start laughing to see who is pretending to not watch but sneak in looks. now they start soaping each other up and rubbing soap all over their breasts and jiggling around a bit.
so now all 10 of us are not longer pretending to be aloof, but now bodies and eyes all turned right at them as they playfully washed their soap off, jiggled themselves dry and proceed over to the massage tables for a session with the therapists (wonder if they pay those guys with cash or services later on? ). one guy just about fell out of the deck chair trying to turn it around to see.
ok, so a nice free shower show--off to check out the city for a while--a good plan to avoid getting stir crazy and all the advances for session when you are ready.
anyone been to a brazilian steak house where you have a colored pad for the servers to see--green means more meat, red means stop. this is what artemis needs.
2) returned at 5:30, showered off, and was going for the 6pm dinner but gently approach by carmen (at breakfast also but not one of the shower duo). went for a pre-meal session--very nice, full 30min, 69 on request, very nice surgical enhancements--more natural than jenna.
dinner, rest, etc. need the red signal. the pesky bulgarian girl at it again (please somebody take here upstairs).
3) now the shower duo is back--went with the blonde nadine, hungarian, good english, lots of piercing. standard session, she adds in a little french kissing with her pierced tounge. that was a good session. never could go for her friend though--too many others linning up for her at the stairs. it was interesting to see those two in their natural state in the am and then all dressed up for the evenning--acutally prefer the am look.
resting, sauna, etc., and at this point planning a 4th session just to see if it could be done. did lots of girl watching around the stair well. 2 gals did a strip show inside one of the cages you can see in the photo gallaries--a nice touch. was looking for a girl who appoached by the pool earlier when in resting mode and thought i saw her go upstairs with a guy--ok to wait, but i think it was an hour session for them--lots of fending off for me to do. when they finally return i find her and its actully someone else--but ok.
4) sofina, german. standard session--we're both about to call it a night. it was a good finish. i'm proud of an 10th session overall in 2.5 days but had to laugh i could only stretch that session to 15 min.
ok so 10 gals for a weekend and a lot of money out of the door. a memorable one for sure. now how can i get myself back to berlin soon?
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[QUOTE=Marwar58]Drawbacks?
The sessions are really not 30 min as discussed before. They go right for your dick with their mouth within minutes of starting and get you suited up and in them fairly soon after, so if you can pump for more than 10 minutes after, my hats off to you. Regulars may be better prepared to slow down the session.
There were a couple of girls so annoying with advances that when other guys took them upstairs I found myself cheering: "yeah, somebody fuck this girl so we can have some peace down here."
The pricing for extras are huge--can't imagine very many go for these when you can just spend the dough on more sessions later. The 10 euro beer is silly--almost like they really don't want people drinking (probably a good idea anyway).
Yes the girls are nude but they wear various cutouts and partial coverings and various footware. Some of it is ridiculous looking-- 8 inch platform heels, etc. I'd be just as happy if they were just nude with flipflops and half as much makeup. I think a water day would be great where they can swim and use the sauna with us.
Maybe some of you like the "hooker" shoes?[/QUOTE]
Hi,
Thanks for the extensive report. Lots of good info in there and I will post them both in the RoD thread.
Regarding the drawbacks.
Girls shorting on time is an Artemis pitfall. One has to, I find, really look for girls with whom you "click" and then this is not such a problem. With these girls I always get my full time if not a little bit more at no extra cost. And I find it best not to frequent the kino. Meeting a girl in the kino is almost an invitation, or so the girls take it, to a short session. If you like kino sex I recommend meeting the girl elsewhere and then suggesting the kino as a place for sex.
The overly persistent girls soon learn, if you return week after week, that they will get nowhere with their pressure tactics, and leave you alone. The advantage of being a regular I guess.
Extras? I agree. Generally outrageous and I myself avoid all except the occasional CIM which I can not resist. I often wonder if the girls were allowed to set their own price for extras, whether or not they would do a lot better financially. I mean I would be much more inclined to CIM if it were more inline with Berlin bordello pricing-30 euros. And anal at 100! This is ridiculous. There are most definitely a couple of girls with whom I would take an anal session were it priced at a more reasonable 40-50 euros.
At least no girl at Artemis has ever tried to charge me 20 euros to kiss her.
As it is I tend to do half hour session unless I like the girl then extend to the hour.
10 euro beer-what can I say. I also think that Artemis does not want to encourage drinking unless you are paying out hundreds for their, admittedly decent, champagne. And the 10 euro beer is not even particularly big and comes in a plastic cup.
Pass.
And the hooker shoes? I hate them. But the girls seem to think that the few extra inches increases their attractiveness so I learn to live with them. I have even used it to my advantage by pointing out to some girls that they have seriously out of wack lower backs due to these shoes and wouldn't they like a short massage. It has been a great ice breaker and has earned me points to be redeemed later in a session.
And Shiva now always comes over for her free 20 minute massage when she sees me and has been working a long shift.
One question-your session with Jenna-I have been reading a German forum and Jenna has to be the all time favorite of many mongers on this forum. I rarely see a post that does not mention her at least once. Did you find her in any way extraordinary? Looking at her on the web page and in person I am at a loss to explain her huge popularity. I am left with wondering if she has a magic pussy or something.
Any comments?
AM
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Hi,
One question-your session with Jenna-I have been reading a German forum and Jenna has to be the all time favorite of many mongers on this forum. I rarely see a post that does not mention her at least once. Did you find her in any way extraordinary? Looking at her on the web page and in person I am at a loss to explain her huge popularity. I am left with wondering if she has a magic pussy or something.
Any comments?
AM[/QUOTE]Nothing magic about the pussy but it is nice. She sits at the corner of the bar facing the door and those tits just standout even in dim light. It wasn't the best session but top half. She is fluent in German (native) and English which helps, and she actually talked for a while at the bar. You just see those and figure while you are here you might as well jump on that ride, and as the night goes on I think others get the same idea. I doubt its word of mouth among visitors. She must do well as you rarely will see her trolling the kino or pool area as she doesn't really need to make the extra effort. But of course your real question is why she is popular on the German boards. I did see her talk extensively with a German guy before going upstairs, so I would guess for them they get a better overall experience than from the guest workers.
Funny comment about Sat night that Jenna told me--a lot if Italian guys frequent the place in groups, and you can't miss them talking it up around the pool area between sessions. They fly a discount carrier to Berlin midday--stay all night until 5am, sleeping if needed on the couches, and take the first flight home in the am--not even checking in a hotel or having to pay for any food outside the club. That's good thinking.
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[QUOTE=Marwar58]Anyone been to a Brazilian steak house where you have a colored pad for the servers to see--green means more meat, red means stop. This is what Artemis needs.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately Artemis sex workers are notoriously colour-blind...
What I do like is the system at FKK Tantra in Kaiserslautern, where you wear different coloured towels depending on whether you want to be approached by the girls or not. You decide on entering. The girls seem to abide by this system. Toscana has even been known to collect different towels and nonchalantly change colour quickly after entering the Kino. It's called one-upmanship..... LOL.
Thanks for the fine report.
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I have visited Artemis a number of times during '07 and '08. Each time I was there I frequently had a session with a girl called Jeanette (probably not her real name), she is from Poznan in Poland. She gave a really great service, to me anyway. She had naturally jet black hair but the last few times I met her in '08 she had dyed her hair blond. She is no great stunner but like I said she gives a great time in the room. I will be visiting Artemis some time later this month or early Nov for the first time in '09, anyone met this girl recently and know if she is still around? Thanks.
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Bravo Mr. T, Actually it's called Bait & Switch
Toscana demonstates that it is not just the girls who can be wolves in sheep`s clothing.
[QUOTE=Toscana]Unfortunately . Toscana has even been known to collect different towels and nonchalantly change colour quickly after entering the Kino. It's called one-upmanship..... LOL.
Thanks for the fine report.[/QUOTE]
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I'll be wearing a bathrobe.
I will be at Artemis next week.
Probably thursday evening quite late, and friday and saturday a lot earlier.
It would be fun to meet someone from the forum.
In case someone wants to meet. I'll be wearing a bathrobe.
Ciao
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[QUOTE=Kimino]I will be at Artemis next week.
Probably thursday evening quite late, and friday and saturday a lot earlier.
It would be fun to meet someone from the forum.
In case someone wants to meet. I'll be wearing a bathrobe.
Ciao[/QUOTE]I was there last November and saw some guy wearing a bathrobe. Was that you?
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[QUOTE=Kimino]I will be at Artemis next week.
Probably thursday evening quite late, and friday and saturday a lot earlier.
It would be fun to meet someone from the forum.
In case someone wants to meet. I'll be wearing a bathrobe.
Ciao[/QUOTE]
I take it that you are aware that next weekend will likely be crazy busy at Artemis due to the annual Venus Berlin trade show for all things sex industry related. Maybe that is also why you are here and visiting at this time but personally I would give Artemis a miss on those days. The girls will be in full business mode and have no time for the niceties.
If you do go I suggest an early start before the girls start dragging men upstairs without so much as a hello.
And all this may just be personal preference on my part.
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]I take it that you are aware that next weekend will likely be crazy busy at Artemis due to the annual Venus Berlin trade show for all things sex industry related. Maybe that is also why you are here and visiting at this time but personally I would give Artemis a miss on those days. The girls will be in full business mode and have no time for the niceties.
If you do go I suggest an early start before the girls start dragging men upstairs without so much as a hello.
And all this may just be personal preference on my part.[/QUOTE]Yes, I'll be there for the Venus. I know it's not the perfect time to be there unfortunately. But being in Berlin, I can't see myself missing the place.
Still I think I'll have fun. :-)
Ciao
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[QUOTE=Uhclem]I was there last November and saw some guy wearing a bathrobe. Was that you?[/QUOTE]Possibly? Was it yellow or white?
Still, think it could be funny to meet with someone from the forum.
Hope I'm not going against some rules of this forum, in case, I apologize.
Regarding what Angus said, he is totally correct, I do remember last year being very busy the place. Often there where no rooms available and you ended up either at the Kino or in those round sofas with curtains that are in the main room.
Definitely crazy but also funny and I remember having a very nice time, until real late.
The number of girls was more than enough and also the level. Just it was difficult to find a place where to go, at some point.
Ciao
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With regard to the coming weekend and busy-ness at Artemis. You have to remember that from my perspective these kinds of weekends really suck. But that is because I am a regular there and I compare it to weekends of just normal busy-ness or even slow nights which I love.
If you visit infrequently then you have to visit when you visit regardless, of course, of how busy it is. All I mean to say is that it will be very busy this weekend and finding a GFE (well, that is a GFE by my standards) will be difficult. But not impossible. Artemis on a really hopping night can be fun. The girls are making money and therefore in general a good mood and high energy.
Have fun and look out for those suspicious wet spots you find on the leatherette sofas on a busy night;-))
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Have fun and look out for those suspicious wet spots you find on the leatherette sofas on a busy night;-))[/QUOTE]Thx for the heads up! :-)))
I'll pay attention and hopefully meet you another time when I'll be in Berlin in a less busy period!
All the best.
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I was in Berlin during last year's Venus and don't recall it being too busy at Artemis then but to me it's not a big issue. I will be in Berlin again and "have to" visit Artemis because that's the purpose of my trip.
I actually prefer it when it's busy because it means I won't get attacked by some of them that much. The downside of it is if the good ones are busy. I think the good outweighs the bad though.
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[QUOTE=ararat]I was in Berlin during last year's Venus and don't recall it being too busy at Artemis then but to me it's not a big issue. I will be in Berlin again and "have to" visit Artemis because that's the purpose of my trip.
I actually prefer it when it's busy because it means I won't get attacked by some of them that much. The downside of it is if the good ones are busy. I think the good outweighs the bad though.[/QUOTE]
Well I guess that like pizza (and sex)-even when it is bad it is still pretty good.
And for me the issue of girls "attacking" is more or less a none issue as they all know me and know that their pressure tactics will not work.
But with my up coming visit to Oase next week maybe I will have to practice again my
thanks but no thanks".
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Artemis - Upcoming Visit....
I'm visiting Berlin at the end of October - want to make sure that I visit FKK Artemis while in town.I've been to many of the FKK's in NRW and Hessen. Looking forward to comparing Artemis to those clubs.
Question: Looks like I will have Sunday (either day or evening) or Monday to visit the club. Any comments on which day would be better? Also, I generally leave my cellphone in the 'cash' locker at FKK's. However, this trip I'll need to have it with me to check emails/texts. Is this a problem at Artemis?
Thanks in advance.
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]But with my up coming visit to Oase next week
Angus
Like you, I was converted earlier this year from a Wohnungspuffs regular to an Artemis adherent.
I went to Frankfurt last Friday to try out the so-called 'Hessen 3'. I ended up missing out on the Geissen FKK World leg of the trip 'because of logistical issues, but I made it to Oase and to Palace.
Oase is a large complex, but the interior space is somewhat smaller than Artemis. There were perhaps 50 girls there on Friday and 70/100 guys, and the place felt packed. There is nowhere to relax without being surrounded by people and it just felt cramped all round. The fornt-desk staff were particularily unfriendly, even hostile, and I found the facilities to be a big disappointment after Artemis. The changing-room areas are run-down, the lockers are ridiculously small, the bar service is poor and the nookie rooms are absolutely tiny with just enough space for a bed. On the upside however, the outdoor areas are really extensive and I'm sure that during the summer it's a really nice place to go pooning. Also, the quality of the eye-candy was first-rate (better than Artemis), and the girls' service was top rate too. If I hadn't ever previously been to Artemis no doubt I would have felt in paradise in Oase, but as it was I was disappointed overall.
Given that Oase is reputed to be the superior establishment, it was with some trepidation that I returned to Central Frankfurt later that evening to visit FKK Palace. I was pleasantly surprised. It is smaller than Oase, but not dramatically so, and I found the facilities to be at least as good. The changing areas are more generous, the staff are more courteous and the girls are equally good-looking. Once again, there is less pressure from sharks here than in Berlin. In the rooms, the girls gave just as good a service as at Oase.
On balance, I preferred Palace to Oase, but in summertime I might have felt different. To my mind, the girls are better in Frankfurt than in Berlin, but the clubs themselves are markedly inferior to Artemis in terms of their amenities.
My point to you however is this. Don't go to Frankfurt and just visit Oase. Take the time out to visit Palace too if you can. The local advice on this forum is that Oase is distinctly the better of the two, but my experience was otherwise.
If you do manage to visit both establishments, I'd be very interested to hear how you think that they compare.
On a final note, I can recommend a girl from each club, if you're interested. Loiuise from Valencia at Oase and Gina at Palace. I won't bother with CV's here. You can check them out for yourself when you're there. Good luck. After frequenting Artemis for 9 months it's quite fun to do an FKK road-trip, but, variety aside, I'm not sure that either place has anything to offer that Artemis doesn't do better.
Enjoy!
Charlie
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[QUOTE=Ciepkahunter]I'm visiting Berlin at the end of October - want to make sure that I visit FKK Artemis while in town.I've been to many of the FKK's in NRW and Hessen. Looking forward to comparing Artemis to those clubs.
Question: Looks like I will have Sunday (either day or evening) or Monday to visit the club. Any comments on which day would be better? Also, I generally leave my cellphone in the 'cash' locker at FKK's. However, this trip I'll need to have it with me to check emails/texts. Is this a problem at Artemis?
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]
Sunday & Monday are obviously slower days at Artemis (as at most clubs I imagine) and I don't think that there is much difference as to which is better. Both days are also pensioner/taxi driver discount days so if you happen to be a pensioner (or a taxi driver;-)) you will get half off your entrance fee if you can prove it.
If not then the girls will probably be happy to have a younger stud with whom to play. Seriously, I find that a slow day can be just as much fun, if not more, than a day when the girls are hopping busy. When you do find a girl you like she will likely be more willing to sit/talk/flirt rather than rushing off to the room.
As to the cell phone-they have a pretty strict policy about no cell phones or Blackberries (for guests-I do see the girls with their cell phones occasionally) in the bar or any where except the entrance area & the locker room. Having one out in these areas is, I believe, grounds for being thrown out of the club. You might just be able to get away with it at the downstairs bar but I would be pretty careful and strictly speaking it is not allowed.
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[QUOTE=Charlie 123][QUOTE=Angus Magee]But with my up coming visit to Oase next week
Angus
Like you, I was converted earlier this year from a Wohnungspuffs regular to an Artemis adherent.
I went to Frankfurt last Friday to try out the so-called 'Hessen 3'. I ended up missing out on the Geissen FKK World leg of the trip 'because of logistical issues, but I made it to Oase and to Palace.
Oase is a large complex, but the interior space is somewhat smaller than Artemis. There were perhaps 50 girls there on Friday and 70/100 guys, and the place felt packed. There is nowhere to relax without being surrounded by people and it just felt cramped all round. The fornt-desk staff were particularily unfriendly, even hostile, and I found the facilities to be a big disappointment after Artemis. The changing-room areas are run-down, the lockers are ridiculously small, the bar service is poor and the nookie rooms are absolutely tiny with just enough space for a bed. On the upside however, the outdoor areas are really extensive and I'm sure that during the summer it's a really nice place to go pooning. Also, the quality of the eye-candy was first-rate (better than Artemis), and the girls' service was top rate too. If I hadn't ever previously been to Artemis no doubt I would have felt in paradise in Oase, but as it was I was disappointed overall.
Given that Oase is reputed to be the superior establishment, it was with some trepidation that I returned to Central Frankfurt later that evening to visit FKK Palace. I was pleasantly surprised. It is smaller than Oase, but not dramatically so, and I found the facilities to be at least as good. The changing areas are more generous, the staff are more courteous and the girls are equally good-looking. Once again, there is less pressure from sharks here than in Berlin. In the rooms, the girls gave just as good a service as at Oase.
On balance, I preferred Palace to Oase, but in summertime I might have felt different. To my mind, the girls are better in Frankfurt than in Berlin, but the clubs themselves are markedly inferior to Artemis in terms of their amenities.
My point to you however is this. Don't go to Frankfurt and just visit Oase. Take the time out to visit Palace too if you can. The local advice on this forum is that Oase is distinctly the better of the two, but my experience was otherwise.
If you do manage to visit both establishments, I'd be very interested to hear how you think that they compare.
On a final note, I can recommend a girl from each club, if you're interested. Loiuise from Valencia at Oase and Gina at Palace. I won't bother with CV's here. You can check them out for yourself when you're there. Good luck. After frequenting Artemis for 9 months it's quite fun to do an FKK road-trip, but, variety aside, I'm not sure that either place has anything to offer that Artemis doesn't do better.
Enjoy!
Charlie[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the short report Charlie.
For me the road trip is as much about going to a different environment and hanging with a few fellow mongers as it is about finding new and (better?) pussy. So I am just curious to see what else is out there. And I have no doubt that Artemis is a good club and I will return. It does a lot of stuff well Artemis. But I can not help but think that it could do with a little competition. I hope that the new club supposedly opening soon in Spandau will give Artemis this competition and keep her a little bit on her toes.
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Fast report on a three days at Artemis during Venus Expo
Just came back.
Been to Artemis th, fr and sat and spent a lot of hours there. Apart the girls, I wanted to relax and have fun. A friend was with me on Thursday, met another guy on friday and had a nice time talking between a girl and the other.
There where hours when the action was a bit chaotic, lots of people coming in and not enough rooms available, but this really lasted not very long, lets say 1 or 2 hrs.
In one case I ended up in a room which was a real mess, this happened in the lower level where the swimming pool is.
Apart from that, all was great.
I'm not into giving detailed girl reviews, I don't remember the names, I don't even remember the experiences but I do remember the general feeling I get at the end of the day, and it was allways great.
In these long multi day sessions, I usually get some "bad" experiences among the wonderful ones. This time it was different, with all the girls I had very nice and honest sessions, real sweet.
This either means that I'm a lucky guy or that in general the percetage of "bad" girls is very low at this time. I tryed probably 10, in 3 days.
For "bad" I mean the following attitudes:
- girls that start humming when the get through the door of the room
- refrigerators in general
- girls that exagerate the showing off
- girls that are too aggressive or clearly want to make you end asap
My highlights:
-An italian girl called Carla (i think), not very very young, dark hair, beautiful body. A pro but had very nice time with her. Had some extras.
- A Spanish girl. Young, dark hair, nice body and face (maybe not the nicest at the Artemis). Very very sweet. After staying with her we got back down and chatted, to a point where I decided to spread my action because the situation was getting on different level.
- A polish blonde, not too young girl. Absolutely great! In general I tend to exclude polish girls because many of the "bad" experiences I had where with girls from poland but this one chaged all.
- A real cute Romanian, 23 yrs. blond girl. With a black necklace. She was very very nice and also turned to be a sweet girl in the room.
I was told that on Wednesday night it's lingerie night where girls dress up a bit.
I really love that stuff but never happened to be there in a wednesday.
Anyone went and can say how it was?
Ciao!
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Visited Artemis yesterday and it wasn't great.
Nothing was really bad and I had only one session I wasn't happy with but on the other hand nothing was really good either. Several girls were doable but there weren't anybody I really felt like I must have.
An average visit on an average Saturday.
I will go to Oase next Saturday instead and will hope for a better time there.
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Thanks angus magee
Well to cut a long story short I had no real intention to visting a fkk club but I got to read some of the great reports. And so after reading the great reports and because I will be in berlin on the 7th November I'm going to vist artemis. I was bored one day and I read every report about artemis (I know sad). But its all thanks to one person angus magee I loved your reports its like a film because I see the change happen you angus. You are like me you like small brothel our bordelle and I see on your old reports and you all intrigued about artmeis and even questioing the price of artmeis and now two years later you are the master of arteims reports. But before you think I'm falling in love with you angus I just want to get your advice if you were a newbie like me who has have never been to fkk club what would you have done differently when you were starting off in fkk clubs. Keep the reports coming angus I really think you should go to some book publishing company to see if they will take your artmeis reports to print. By the way am I allowed to carry my phone and when do I pay the girl before our after the session. And that question I asked to angus is open to anyone if you could help me thanks so much. I'm a newbie and just want to know what you would have done diffrent when you were starting out.
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Artemis right now does have a great line up, all kinds of girls from young to old, from skinny to fat, from blonde to black.
HB
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First visit to Artemis
i was recently in berlin for 3 days as part of a tour that included the baltic states as well. since i had read so much about artemis on this thread, i made it a priority to learn as much about artemis as i could before i left and to make it a point to visit when i got to berlin. i wasn't disappointed.
i first heard of artemis over three years ago when i read an article about it in, of all places, the new york times: [url]http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/03/world/europe/03berlin.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=artemis,%20brothel&st=cse[/url]. this prompted me to find the artemis website: [url]http://www.fkk-artemis.de/[/url], and furthered my resolve to visit it if and when i ever got a chance to visit berlin. that opportunity finally came last week.
i am a very experienced monger, but a newbie to berlin and to fkk clubs. heretofore i had thought that the ultimate mongering experience was the upscale termas in rio de janeiro. my visits to artemis have forced me to change my opinion; artemis makes the rio termas look like convents (well, not quite, but you get the idea). i have been saying for years that rio and bangkok were rivals for the title of pussy capital of the world, but now i will have to add berlin to that rivalry.
(for those readers already familiar with artemis, the next few paragraphs probably will cover ground with which you are already quite familiar, so you might want to skip down to where i start discussing individual girls. but those who have never been there might enjoy walking through what the experience is like.)
here's how it goes. artemis is a free standing, four-storied structure. the first three stories are for mongering in one way or another; the fourth story is private and is where many of the girls live. you walk in at street level and go to the receptionist. the receptionists are friendly and all speak english. you pay the admission fee, 80 euros, which can be paid with a credit card or cash. they will tell you that the girls must be paid in cash upon completion of service. the cost is 60 euros for a half hour and 120 euros for an hour. you are guaranteed a blowjob and intercourse; anything else must be negotiated with the girl. if you cim, it is 50 euros extra, and anal is 100 euros extra, regardless of the length of the session. after you pay the admission fee you are given a robe and are directed to the lockers, which are up a short flight of stairs, on the second level. there you will also find assorted flip flops for your feet. it is important to remember that there are two sets of lockers, one for your clothes and one for your money; the same key, which has the locker number, opens both. after you session with the girl you go to the money locker and pay her.
after i changed into my robe and secured both lockers, i decided to explore the place. on the second level, the same level as the lockers, there is a very large bar, which is the center of activity and the main place to meet and secure a girl. all of the girls--100%--are bare-breasted, and many are totally naked. i felt exactly like i did the first time i visited a brazilian termas, but even more so: that i had died and gone to heaven. i would say that the majority of the girls are wear a garter belt around the waist, which may or may not be hooked to a pair of stockings, but there are no panties, so the pussy is clearly visible. in other words, the entire package is on view, so there should be no disappointment or surprises when you get to the bedroom. (i was told by one of the girls that wednesday is bikini day, so avoid wednesdays if you want nudity to be on display.) i talked to many, many girls, and all but one were from other countries: russia, poland, romania, serbia, spain, brazil--you name it. i only talked to one girl who was german, and she was the only one who didn't speak english. so if you are unable to speak german, as i am, don't worry; nearly all of the girls speak english. soft drinks are free; there is a charge for alcoholic drinks.
in the back of the bar there is a restaurant that is open from 11am-3pm for breakfast, and from 6pm on for dinner. food is served buffet style and is free. girls eat there as well as customers. when the girls come in they cover themselves with a towel, which i guess is their way of saying they are off duty. you will find a small cinema (kino) on the bar level and a much larger one on the ground level, both showing hard core porn films. there is considerable sexual activity in the downstairs kino; i saw one girl vigorously giving an older man a blow job. also on the ground level you will find a swimming pool-jacuzzi; i don't know if sexual activity is allowed in the pool. in any event, i didn't see any girls in there. there is also a massage room and a sauna. the third floor consists entirely or private rooms for sex. there are also rooms for sex on the ground floor, although i didn't use any. the girls told me they aren't as good as the third floor rooms. there are also some couches that are as large as beds in the main second floor bar, complete with rolls of paper towels, and the girls told me that you can have sex there as well, in full view of everyone in the bar,although i didn't see anyone doing so. i would be curious to know if anyone actually does have sex publicly like that.
now, on to the girls. the girls are very aggressive and will readily approach you, so it is important that you not give in to the temptation to go with the first girl who approaches you--difficult to do when she is sticking her tits in your face--and give yourself a chance to survey all the choices available. after looking around i found the girl i wanted, a polish girl named monica. gentlemen, if you come across monica, grab her. she is a gem. she is a tall blonde with beautiful, although enhanced, breasts. i would rate her as a 9.5; she would be a perfect 10 if she had natural breasts. she is about six feet tall and looks like elisabeth rohm who used to be on law & order. i always screen girls for services they provide before i commit to them. if they won't agree to dfk, daty, and bbbj, i pass and move on. monica agreed to everything, so we went upstairs to a private room for an hour session. she is as good in bed as she in looks. monica is an excellent kisser, and we engaged in some prolonged kissing with much tongue thrusting and sucking. i then moved on to daty, then a vigorous bbbj where monica proved her oral skills. we ended with cfs, first in cg, then rcg. a first class sexual experience with a classy girl. monica tells me that she lives in poland and comes to berlin a few days at a time to work at artemis. she has two kids that her mother takes care of when she is away. she tells her mother that she works in germany as a dancer.
after recuperating for a while, i then chose a spanish girl named [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]--good body, nice breasts, swarthy complexion, about a 7. this experience was not so pleasant. i did the usual screening and we went to a private room for a half hour session. since i am fluent in spanish, this was our language of conversation. we started out with her sitting on my face, first facing me, then away from me for a 69. she then covered me and we started screwing in rcg. since i had so recently been with monica, and since i am somewhat up in years, i ultimately went limp inside her. i then took the condom off and told her to lie beside me and massage my balls and dfk while i tried to get off manually. well, she refused to dfk in spite of her having promised to do so. well, this pissed me off so much that i abruptly ended the session without cumming (although we were near the half hour mark anyway) and told her that since she had lied to me i would only pay for half what the usual fee was, i.e., 30 euros. she went ballistic at this and when we got down to the second level she went down to the front desk to complain. the front desk called the (female) manager who told me that i had to pay the full 60 euros since we had indeed had sex. i reluctantly agreed to do so, not wanting to be ejected from the place or, worse yet, being set upon by a knot of goons. she then said something to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] in german that i didn't understand, then told me in english that she had warned her not to promise things that she wasn't actually going to provide. anyway, avoid [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]; she is a liar.
the next girl i chose was a tall, gorgeous spanish girl named paula, whom i also conversed with in spanish. i agreed on a half hour session with her after the usual screening. she did everything she said she would, but service was lackluster and she didn't attempt to hide the fact that she was bored. i decided not to cum with her but to save my juice for someone who could get me really excited.
after a break for dinner and a bit more relaxation, i went back to the bar and settled on a black brazilian named tiana. here i felt i was on home turf, since i am a veteran brazil monger. we conversed quite easily in portuguese and i did the usual screening. i tried to talk to her about the rio mongering scene, but she is from salvador and has been to rio only once. i did monger in salvador once, so we talked about this for a while. we agreed to a half hour and went to a private room on the third level. tiana had lackluster dfk skills and wouldn't put much more than the tip of her tongue in my mouth. this was mildly disappointing, but she more than compensated for it by her outstanding sucking skills. she wanted me to cim, but i didn't want to pay 50 euros extra, so i declined. we then proceeded to daty, then cfs in rcg position, and after some deep thrusting i exploded inside her.
after tiana, i decided it was time to call it a night, after 4 girls and 380 euros. i had planned to go the next day to kamilla dee, since it had received such favorable reviews on this forum, but i decided to go back to artemis, since i had had such a great time there the day before. i got there shortly after they opened. i sat down in the bar and immediately a gorgeous bare-breasted russian, whose name i can't recall, sat down next to me. however, i spotted monica and decided that i wanted to go with her again. i told the russian "maybe later" and motioned monica to come sit next to me. we agreed on an hour session, and she was even better the second day than she was the first. i can't sing monica's praises highly enough.
i then went to the restaurant to get some lunch, then went back to the bar. a gorgeous romanian named antonia caught my eye: blonde, spinner, beautiful breasts, feline facial features--just what i like. she spoke good english but burst my bubble when she told me she doesn't dfk. too bad, but for me this is non-negotiable, so i reluctantly passed. i also saw tiana again but decided not to go with her. i couldn't see anyone else i wanted to session with, so i decided to leave.
artemis is a great experience and probably the best place i have ever mongered, but if you are an american it is very expensive because of the current exchange rate. over the two days i spent 580 euros, which converts to about us$870--quite a lot of money for pussy. i would like to go back to berlin if the dollar goes back to being on a par with the euro as it was in 2002, but i'm not holding my breath. but i recommend that anyone coming to berlin try artemis at least once. it is a world class mongering experience.
lorenzo
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[QUOTE=JimmyBond007]Well to cut a long story short I had no real intention to visting a fkk club but I got to read some of the great reports. And so after reading the great reports and because I will be in berlin on the 7th November I'm going to vist artemis. I was bored one day and I read every report about artemis (I know sad). But its all thanks to one person angus magee I loved your reports its like a film because I see the change happen you angus. You are like me you like small brothel our bordelle and I see on your old reports and you all intrigued about artmeis and even questioing the price of artmeis and now two years later you are the master of arteims reports. But before you think I'm falling in love with you angus I just want to get your advice if you were a newbie like me who has have never been to fkk club what would you have done differently when you were starting off in fkk clubs. Keep the reports coming angus I really think you should go to some book publishing company to see if they will take your artmeis reports to print. By the way am I allowed to carry my phone and when do I pay the girl before our after the session. And that question I asked to angus is open to anyone if you could help me thanks so much. I'm a newbie and just want to know what you would have done diffrent when you were starting out.[/QUOTE]
Hi 007,
First thanks for the positive feedback on my reports. Always good for a writer's delicate ego to hear such things.
As for what I would do different-it is hard to say and I am not sure I can pin down for sure any real concrete things to tell you. Though maybe I can say that, and this is sort of general advise, is to be as straight with the girls as you possibly can be. That is if you do not want a session just say that. Try not to get bogged down in excuses. But then this is much easier to say than it is to do. I still work on it and many girls do make it difficult with their persistence. But in the end I find this pays off as when the girls see that you are a straight shooter they do treat you with more respect than they do average "punter".
And also try not to get too too obsessed with finding the perfect girl. I find it more important to just have fun than to feel constantly unsatisfied because the girl is a bit too this or a bit too that.
Phones are strictly forbidden in Artemis (as they are in, I believe, in all FKKs) because of the possibility of picture taking. Which is understandably not appreciated. You can have your phone out in the mens locker room and the reception area right in the front of house. I have had my phone out there but only to turn it off.
Payment happens after the session and in the area where the small cash lockers are located. The girl usually hangs back a bit while you collect the cash from your small locker. Personally I like to give it to them discreetly and a bit folded but then I repeat the amount to them so that we are clear. And I count it myself a couple of times carefully while still at the locker to avoid short changing or accidentally giving away an extra 50 euro note. This has happened to me and it was returned to me by the girl. But then she just earned it back in another session;-))
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Hi to everybody, this is my first report and please apologizes me for my bad English. I have been last Monday, for the first time, to the Artemis.
A fable is seemed me.
Organized to the perfection, clean, cordial staff, also good food and above all beautiful girls.
These are the girls with which I have "deepened the knowledge"
Ramona girl from Transilvania – Romania about 25-27 years – dark hir and eyes Beautiful youngster, but it has a defect for me, she speaks, speak, speak she has explained me, in general, rates and performances.
In conclusion nothing memorable.
Girl from Siberia – age 28-29 – I don't remember the name. For me is a white tiger from siberia.
Blonde hair, blue eyes and white skin.
A physicist similar to that of Ramona. Height 1, 72 cms, beautiful breasts and above all she doesn't speak but fuck.
Very Good service
Girl from Bulgaria – age 24 – I'm sorry but I don't remember the name.
Blonde hair, blue eyes, beautiful breasts
Good service
Girl from Brasil – age 24- I don't remember the name – height 1, 70 cm.
A fable bottom, two beautiful tits and a liking all Brazilian.
Very good service
In conclusion: a fable day.
I will return there' as soon as possible
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Hi Everyone
I visited Artemis for the first time this spring for both a friday and saturday evening. It was absolutely a wonderfull experience and it is something that every man should try at least once in his lifetime.
I am thinking about arranging a gentlemans weekend trip to Berlin for some very good friends to see Artemis. We don't have anything like this up in Scandinavia.
When I was there in spring it got a little bit overcrowded on late saturday evening in my opinion. The potential days in question for a visit are a weekend in the beginning of or the middle of December.
Can anyone please advice on how many people there will be in Artemis in a friday or saturday in December? - will it be packed with extra many punters?
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[QUOTE=Frej Of Asgaard]Hi Everyone
I visited Artemis for the first time this spring for both a friday and saturday evening. It was absolutely a wonderfull experience and it is something that every man should try at least once in his lifetime.
I am thinking about arranging a gentlemans weekend trip to Berlin for some very good friends to see Artemis. We don't have anything like this up in Scandinavia.
When I was there in spring it got a little bit overcrowded on late saturday evening in my opinion. The potential days in question for a visit are a weekend in the beginning of or the middle of December.
Can anyone please advice on how many people there will be in Artemis in a friday or saturday in December? - will it be packed with extra many punters?[/QUOTE]
How many people? This is not exactly an easy question. But I am guessing that you are after general numbers not an exact figure.
Friday & Saturday (and indeed Thursday) are almost always fairly busy at Artemis IME. But for it to get crazy busy it usually takes a Messe (convention or trade show) to be happening at the near by Messe complex. Here is a link to the Messe website:
[url]http://www1.messe-berlin.de/vip8_1/website/Internet/Internet/www.messe-berlin/englisch/index.html[/url]
You can check it to see if something is happening but keep in mind that not all trade shows bring massive business to Artemis. For example up coming is a wedding show and I don't imagine that this will bring huge crowds to Berlin's premier bordello.
But then you never know.
Also note that there are other FKK in Germany though not in Berlin. You could consider another venue. Artemis is a good place but it does have its' limitations. For more and for a short(or maybe not so short) report that compares the various attributes of the FKK I have so far visited I suggest you read my Oct tour reports along with the soon to be posted wrap up report in the General Info thread.
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Hi,
I'm a FKK Palace regular but am going to Berlin on business soon and would like to know how to get there by public transport and, or, if there are any hotels nearby where I could sleep (like Flemings is right next door to Palace in Frankfurt).
Secondly, does Artemis accept credit/debit cards (such as Visa/EC)?
Cheers!
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[QUOTE=Sybarite2006]Hi,
I'm a FKK Palace regular but am going to Berlin on business soon and would like to know how to get there by public transport and, or, if there are any hotels nearby where I could sleep (like Flemings is right next door to Palace in Frankfurt).
Secondly, does Artemis accept credit/debit cards (such as Visa/EC)?
Cheers![/QUOTE]
Artemis has a very good "how to reach us" page on its' website.
[url]http://www.fkk-artemis.de/en/how_to_reach_us.php[/url]
And how to reach by transit depends upon where you come from.
Briefly, get yourself to S-Bahn station Westkreuz on the Ring Bahn. Take the only exit there is and you find yourself in a small parking lot with one exit onto the street. Turn left out of the parking lot and walk about 3-4 minutes
(you walk over a bridge over the railway tracks) and look left turning again into a parking lot. There is (at present) a tire store in the same parking lot. You will see Artemis right in front of you.
Here is also a link to the BVG website in English.
[url]http://www.bvg.de/index.php/en/index.html[/url]
It is easy to use and will give you directions including exact (this is Germany afterall) travel times & connection. The only caveat is that the web site does not always give you (IMO) the best route to follow. It sometimes gives you routes that I find a bit round about. But it will get you there.
As for hotels, that is not my strong suit as I live here. But another member has used this hotel
[url]http://www.kronprinz-hotel.de/[/url]
He tells me the rates are good if you book in line with a booking service (again this is out of my field of expertise) and it is about as close to Artemis as you can get. About 5-10 minutes walk.
Have fun and please remember to post your report as a way of giving back for the info you receive here.
AM
PS-about the cc thing-I have no real idea as I always use cash. But I have seen cc's being handled at the front desk so I imagine they do. There is also a cash machine but I think those things charge a heft fee so best come equipped with cash from an outside ATM which is probably cheaper. Also you have to pay the girls in cash. I guess you can use a cc to get cash from the front desk but again this may involve a charge. Maybe another member who uses cc's at an FKK can tell us more.
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Thanks for the Info Angus.
And thank you for all of your reports - I have read several of them with great interest. :)
There only seems to be one event in December in the Messe : An Equestrian Sport Exibition from december 10-13. Probably more women there than men.
I guess my question comes from my experiences in Scandinavia around Copenhagen. Up here during all the weekends of December and late November there are "Christmas Lunches" - and they have very little to do with lunch - ends up being all night parties. All of the bars and pubs are overfilled with people during that time and they are more drunk than normally. And apparently the sex service providers also havea lot more clients in this period.
So that is what I am worried about - that the inhabitants of Berlin might act as crazy in December as us crazy Scandinavians. Because if that is the case then Artemis will be overrun in those weekends.
But from your post I guess not.
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[QUOTE=Frej Of Asgaard]So that is what I am worried about - that the inhabitants of Berlin might act as crazy in December as us crazy Scandinavians. Because if that is the case then Artemis will be overrun in those weekends.
But from your post I guess not.[/QUOTE]
As I remember it last December was not crazy busy at Artemis. I was pretty new to the Artemis scene at the time but I do not remember any really packed houses.
In any case, Artemis is certainly not a place men go to drink. At 10 euros for a small plastic glass of beer you would have to be a bit desperate to do so.
As I say-it is likely to be busy but not unpleasantly so-that is unless a group of crazy vikings show up;-))
But do not leave it too late in December. A bit before Christmas (a few days) the girls do start to leave on vacation.
[QUOTE=Frej Of Asgaard] only seems to be one event in December in the Messe : An Equestrian Sport Exibition from december 10-13. Probably more women there than men [/QUOTE]
Interesting. Horsey Play! Giddy Up!
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FKK Artemis - First Impressions
So this is my first trip report to ISG. I've been mongering for a few years now (Brasil, Germany, Poland, USA predominately). I really enjoy the attractions of a good FKK club so I thought I would visit Artemis while in Berlin.
I arrived around 11 pm on a busy Sunday night at FKK Artemis. It was a 10 Euro cab ride from my hotel near the Europa Center/Gedachtniskirche in the middle of 'old' West Berlin. I paid my 80 Euro (! ) entrance fee to a very nice young woman at Rezeption. She gave me a key that worked for both the 'cash locker' (near the front door) and my locker a short walk away. She also gave me my robe and checked a list to see if any of the 'all star' providers mentioned here were working.
FKK Artemis has been reviewed here on ISG quite a bit, so I will give you only a brief account of my impressions: The club is quite big, with public spaces on 3 floors (a 4th holding the rooms that the girls live in). However, I rather prefer the one-story design of FKK Palace in Frankfurt.- you can see almost the entire club from a vantage point at the bar. I also found the 'ground floor' bar (where 99% of the girls were 'hanging out') to be filled with cigarette smoke to a point that I had to escape to the smoke-free (and girl-fee as it turned out) basement "Wellness area." The basement house saunas, a pool, a very quiet bar, and a cinema.
The girls: Again, I have to say that my experiences in FKK's near Frankfurt and Koln were better. The girls at Artemis were pretty aggressive. Not much chit-chat before asking if you were ready for a room. If you said 'no' they took off without as much as a 'maybe later.' However, I did end up with two good finds:
Alina: Ukrainian, probably in her early 30's, 5'9" or so slim with B cups, speaks very good German (not much English). A bit too much make-up for my tastes but she actually sat and talked for a few minutes before asking about my room needs. I'm glad I selected Alina for a 30 minute session. She didn't allow DFK but her BBBJ was inspired. She seemed to enjoy the rest of the sex. Didn't fake it too much (LOL). Almost a GFE.
Lila: Slovakian, early 20's, speaks good English, nice firm B's, 5'6" and slim. I was a bit less impressed with Lila's performance. No BBBJ offered. Sex was pretty mechanical. She did strike up more of a conversation than "want to go to a Zimmer." but in the end it was not a GFE. Still she had a warm (er) personality compared to most of the others at Artemis.
I'll be back to Artemis but I have to say that competition in Berlin (from another FKK) would be a good think for this club. The 80 Euro entry fee is a bit extreme; the girls could be culled a bit to get rid of the aggressive, rude ones.
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Answering a question from the Palace thread....
...about discount entrance for pensioners at Artemis in Sun. & Mon..
And just for the record-I am not a pensioner.
[QUOTE=Diet Coke]What do you mean by pensioner? Someone of a certain age? If so, what age?
Rick[/QUOTE]
I imagine that it means 65 years. But that depends on the German law whatever it is. The website says that you have to be able to present an old age pensioners card. Now I also wonder what they would do if you had an old age pensioners card from another country. I guess you would have to call them to find out.
Anyway here is the link to the page that explains it. It is in English.
[url]http://www.fkk-artemis.de/en/news.php[/url]
AM
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[QUOTE=Ciepkahunter]
I'll be back to Artemis but I have to say that competition in Berlin (from another FKK) would be a good think for this club. The 80 Euro entry fee is a bit extreme; the girls could be culled a bit to get rid of the aggressive, rude ones.
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Thanks for the report. I could not agree more that Artemis could do with a bit of competition.
That or hiring an intimacy coach to work one on one with the girls and teach them about how to behave with a man before getting him to the room.
I wonder who wants this job?
AM
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Credit where credit is due.
Artemis has received some negative reports lately from myself and others. But I just remembered something of note from my last visit.
The main shower room has been renovated And they have installed super big shower heads. These are the type of shower head that deliver a steady drenching supply of water, not the thin hard spray that the old heads gave.
They also seem to have upped the timers, at least of the main showers, so that the do not turn off just when the water warms up.
Downstairs also has new shower heads though not the same type. And while the timers down there are still on a short fuse, the water seemed a bit more consistently warm.
While this little detail may seem a bit inconsequential to some, I am of the mind that when one is paying top euro entry fees one should get top facilities as well as top girls. Artemis has, at least in the facility department, just taken a step up.
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First time in a FKK club
my first ever visit fkk club and artemis was my place to lose my fkk virginity. i arrived about 9 pm firday nite i had not slept the previous nite and i was so tired. but anyway i entered the artemis a young girl greeted me she asked was it my first time i said yes i kind of regret saying yes because then she explained that for 60 euro i got a blowjob and sex and if i wanted anal it would cost 100 euro extra it might sound silly but i got a bit uncomfortable a woman round the same age as me telling what i get for my money. she gave me a robe and off to the showers i went put my all valuables in my locker and entered the main lounge. what greeted me took my breath away i never seen so many naked in one place in my youngish life it was great. then downstairs i went i was bit lost i entered the kino and sat their i see this hot german lady i waved at her she came over jane was her name she had great body and face. for some reason she looked like a young steffi graf i asked her would she show me around nice woman so thanks to jane i got to know my way around and then i asked could i have my first fkk session with her so off to the room upsatirs. jane said for 60 euro i get a blowjob and sex she didn't do kissing our anal which i didn't care about. she got on top and and wow she can ride for germany i changed postions before i came i got in her doggy and i was about to fuck her hard and the she starts to complain that her pussy is not a machine so back to her on top and wow she was the best girl i ever had on top and soon came after that i was so tired i went down stairs i was soon about when i bumped into a hot bulgarian girl called sasha and to be honest i can't even remmeber the session all i remmeber she was good kisser i was ready for bed and after that. next morning after a good 6 hour sleep i was ready for action i went to artemis about 2pm and i had some breakfast really good food their then met a sexy german girl called maike our mika i can't remmeber i wanted to try the kino i'm glad we did. went to the kino near the kitchen and their was sexy jane and some hot black hair girl having a threesome with some guy so maike made sure she pointed me in the direction of the sex show while i fucked maike, jane kept on looking over when she was in reverse cowgirl and winking at me and we had a silly conversation how nice was the weather was then maike starting shouting at me to fuck her hard and stop talking so i didn't need to be asked twice i really went to town on her but then disater the condom got trapped inside her so god knows how long i was fucking her while i had no condom on but anyway it didn't seem to bother her so while the threesome was finished maike got me and gave me a brillant hand job and i came all over her tits. she never mentioned about paying extra for cuming on her tits our the fact my condom came off but anyway it was a really good fuck she had a great body and great face. then i went to pool and saune for a while and slept for a while and went away and came back about 8 that nite for saturday nite madness. came back about 8 full of italian men it was like godfather convention the girls were getting pissed off by the drunk italian men. the previous nite i met a hot girl from italy called raffella wow i'm glad i waited the next nite for her what a fuck i was so nearly going to anal with her but she was so good i didn't bother many next nite. then back downstairs for to bar near the pool wear i sat then a spainish girl called roberta came over and more our less tryed to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] me she took off my towl and started to wank me off at the bar until i told her to stop i was just after a session and need to recover she would not take no for an answer it was funny at the start but then she became really annoying. she went away thank god then i seen a half itialian half romanian girl i say she was more romanian i can't remmeber her name but she had a tattoo of a butterfly on her ass. she was a great fuck then disaster again my condom slipped off this has never happened before even with ex gfs i'm no ron jeremy but for it to happy twice in a few hours was werid but it didn't seem to bother her either. she put another condom on and i could not cum and she actually got a bit upset i never came she was asking me did i have this problem with the other girls and i said no i came ever other time she actually was really annoyed which was kind of sweet in a weird way. so after half hour we stopped i was not going to cum. went upstairs and met a hot polish and told her what happened that i never came she said she would make sure i came in her session i can't remmeber her name but she made sure i came she was great fuck. i wish i remmeber her name i was getting tired and said i would have one last fuck so i met a really blonde hot bulgarian girl whos name i can't remmeber sorry but she was great fuck to. all in all if i had a bit more energy and a better memory i would probaly have a better experince. sorry for the shit report i'm actually at the airport writing this i would love to go into more detail but i will have better reports the future when i'm not so rushed.
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Hi All,
I'm new to this forum and new to FKKs but I'm planning a trip to Berlin this spring and can't help but to visit Artemis. Reading all your reports really make it sound like close to heaven.
A quick first question: what happens if you accidentally CIM during foreplay before going to a room? Do you have to pay for the service?
I imagine it could easily happen the first time you visit.
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[QUOTE=Skumma]Hi All,
I'm new to this forum and new to FKKs but I'm planning a trip to Berlin this spring and can't help but to visit Artemis. Reading all your reports really make it sound like close to heaven.
A quick first question: what happens if you accidentally CIM during foreplay before going to a room? Do you have to pay for the service?
I imagine it could easily happen the first time you visit.[/QUOTE]Short answer: Yes you have to pay for it. But your choice to try and talk your way out of it, but would not recommend it.
Many German FKK senior writers would say a highly satisfactory strategy is to intentionally go for the CIM your first shot, then back to standard sessions for 2nd and beyond. In fact if the girl knows up front you want extra options and/or a longer session, they get motivated to serve you better. If you say you just want a 30 min standard sesion, they will kiss and touch for a minute or so and then go for your cock and suite you up and bam your are done 12 min into the session and its over.
And yes it is heaven and worth the money.
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[QUOTE=Skumma]A quick first question: what happens if you accidentally CIM during foreplay before going to a room? Do you have to pay for the service?
I imagine it could easily happen the first time you visit.[/QUOTE]
My guess would be yes, almost certainly. If you feel like you're going to CIM and don't want to pay, pull out.
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[QUOTE=Skumma]
A quick first question: what happens if you accidentally CIM during foreplay before going to a room? Do you have to pay for the service?
I imagine it could easily happen the first time you visit.[/QUOTE]
If you come in the girl's mouth during pre session fore play you will most definitely be expected to pay not just a full half hour session but also the cim extra charge. That would be 60 + 50 =110.
Now getting a bj as free fore play at Artemis-that is quite the achievement. I has happened to me once.
Generally as soon as the sex starts so does the clock and so it would be considered by most girls as part of the half hour session even if you then moved to the room.
This can be flexible though and depends upon the relationship that you manage to have with the girl and other factors.
But do be careful if she starts to blow you. Don't let the girl take charge. It is your dime.
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Thanks a lot for all the answers. I guess the thing is to be careful and maybe not extremely horny (how that's going to happen.
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No such thing as a free blow...
[QUOTE=Skumma]Thanks a lot for all the answers. I guess the thing is to be careful and maybe not extremely horny (how that's going to happen.[/QUOTE]
Thats easy, just decide on the right girl for your first session and let her know that you want her to take it slowly as you will come quickly. Most girls understand the issue, and many will ask how many times you have been in the room that day so they know how hard to stimulate.
Once you have had your first session you'll relax into the swing of things a little more.
On the "free foreplay" idea, I have to say there no such thing as a free lunch or even a BJ.
Most free foreplay is implicitly part of a contract with the girl, or is a blatant attempt to seduce back a known repeat customer.
Like Angus I have benefited from this enjoyable experience, but only with girls that were confident that I understood the unspoken pact between us. I never have any doubt that the service is payable, like a routine session, or over the longer term.
If you, or anyone else, fancies the idea of more foreplay before going to the room, then I recommend you try arranging to meet later a girls that approaches you whilst you are in recovery mode. Most girls will treat you well if they know you are committed.
My best example of this happened to me at Palace. I had arranged to session with a couple of girls, who later happened to find me in the old Hamam. Without a word they went to work on me, to the astonishment of the weary guys sitting around. And boy, did they both put on a show. I could hardly walk afterwards. My recollection is that we did eventually all go to a room, for a further normal half hour session. The girls didn't push for a tip, or payment for the extra time. For them, like a kino session, it was good advertising, and good use of time as they were confident they would get the session from me.
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[QUOTE=Skumma]Thanks a lot for all the answers. I guess the thing is to be careful and maybe not extremely horny (how that's going to happen.[/QUOTE]If you want to extra safe you should maybe get covered blowjob and you won't have to worry about forking out 50 euro like I had to do at the weekend LOL.
But it was worth it have a good.
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Back to Artemis
I was in Berlin for the 20th anniversary of the fall of the wall and decided to go back to Artemis in the evening before, 08/11, a sunday. I had been to Artemis more than a few times before (7? 8? Can't remember) but never in the last year and was very curious about to see the changes they have made. First the 80€ entrance: despite all the features a club like Artemis can boast I don't think that is worth paying 80€ just to enter. But I'm not the kind of guy that goes to a fkk to have a sauna or a massage so others may disagree.
Anyway, the biggest change in the layout of the club was around the showers, now with more space to get in and out thanks to a small part of the locker room transformed in an area where to hang bathrobes and use washcloths. Nice add.
The second big change since my last visit was a marked switch from a club based on russian and polish girls to one with romanian girls as the majority. While there are still a good amount of polish girls, they were on the same order of amount of the romanian ones, something that wasn't so a year ago, and I couldn't find any russian one. Having a preference for blondes this meant less fair-headed girl and more black-haired with fair skin ones. Not necessarily a bad thing, just something worth reporting.
When I entered the bar, around 20:40, there were probably 30-35 men and 25 girls with half of them not much appealing in my opinion and the other half pretty hot but with no 10s or 9,5s , only plenty of 8 and 9. Given that the bar at that hour is full of smoke and dark as a cavern, I place myself on the stairwell and wait for somebody that can catch my tastes.
The first I see is Kristal (or Cristal) a 20yo romanian, black hair, green-blue eyes, a triangular face, tall, perky small tits and without an inch of fat whatsoever. She speaks a bit of italian, learned from other mongers, and smiles a lot, always a good sign for me. I don't want to spend all the night at the club and so up we go.
In the room she goes straight towards my cock, with a undoubtedly well done bbbj, slow and wet. She seems to enjoy it so much that doesn't want to separate from my cock. I stop her before coming too soon and lay on her back to suck her tits and daty her to the point where she stops me because "she is getting too wet". I don't understand what could be so bad in being too wet but I don't complain, being ready for the fuck part of the session. I come inside her after roughly 25 minutes. 60€ well spent even if I can't really insert the experience with Kristal among the "to be remembered" ones in my life. Something about not "clicking" with the girl.
Showering and then back to the bar. I sit on one of the sofa that are in an elevated position just directly overseeing the bar's stools. From there I manage to see better all the girls coming and going. I remember 3 or 4 old faces, a very short-haired girl with glasses that seem very popular, a 30+ yo italian girl with whom I sessioned an year before but that doesn't remember me and a couple of others that I've seen but never had the chance to talk with. The only black girl present this evening is hanging all alone by herself by the bar entrance. Given my preference for dark skinned girls (other that for blondes and redheads) I stare at her for a couple of seconds, the time needed for her to notice me and to understand I want her to sit beside me.
She is brazilian, from Maracanà - Rio, she calls herself "real Viagra" and seems very happy that she can speak in portuguese with somebody. My portuguese is terrible, I managed to understand her and ask her some questions but no more than that. She has been working at Artemis only for 4 days, before she was in Stuttgart. She doesn't want to tell me her real name and I didn't want to be took for the inquisitive guy so I didn't ask her any more question. While we went upstairs I could finally see her more clearly: long dark curly hair, a face that resemble that of Beyoncè but not as attractive, fake tits ("a month old") but not exaggeratedly oversized, great bunda and big legs enveloped in blue laces (that she removed as soon as we went in the room because of the pain she gets from them).
I've been with brazilian girls before but she was definetly the best of the bunch: she does everything, including anal which I'm not interested in, and wanted me to penetrate her vagina and asshole at the same time while she did bbbj on me. She asked me to come over her tits but first I fucked her doggy, then put her on cowgirl while I spanked her ass. Everytime I spanked her she screams a bit louder and kept asking me for more. I think people from adjacent rooms have definitely heard her screams. I came over her tits has she wanted and after it we spoke for some minutes without noticing that we were far over the 30 minutes (not something I'd complain :-) ). She is the chatty type and very, very horny in bed, if I ever had been with a pornstar I'd say she is PSE but in a nice way, like a very uninhibited girlfriend.
After her, I decide to go out, as it's 23:45 and I don't want to feel too sleepy the next day for the anniversary.
P.S.= is there a new rule at Artemis for girls to not give change to clients? Both the girls with whom I sessioned with I asked for change and they readily sent my to the reception, in fact so quickly that it gave me the idea that they are instructed to say so every time.
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One week in Berlin
Time to summarize a week. Haven't had time to write earlier, and I now notice how quickly details are forgotten.
On Sunday evening I arrived pretty early, I like that as a strategy, also it goes well with a will to be awake on daytime.
First girl I ran into (well....) was Marcella from Poland, she was nice and the session was good, but no sparkles.
After some hours of looking around, sauna and some coffe, Nicoleta (Bulgaria) joined we in the sofa under the staircase and cuddled up. This girl is a real sweetie and I got a "demo" of her new tits. :-) That ehancement wasn't really necessary, but sure, they were nice and it was a nice job done. Very nice was also the session with her!
This was the end of that evening, which means you look around for another 1.5 hours before you manage to get you out of the place.
Next visit was a short one (if you compare...) on Tuesday and I did one session with the lovely Ella (from Russia). That is what a man need before a good nights sleep! Lovely girl! Of course she "persuaded" me into a CIM.
Thursday was next visit, a bit longer then Tuesday, but still a shorter one. After a period of problems to decide, I talked a bit to Shenya, she has a lovely smile, which can melt you down totally! She told me she is from Romania, I think she is still the girl "R the man" and Kimino reports about.
This girl is highly recommended and a keeper! Highlight of the week without doubt!
Friday, the last visit this time and more time to spend. I left after 01.00 whish is late by my standards.
First encounder was with the Moldavian Denisa, a really nasty looking girl. She wears a VERY short white shirt, just covering the shoulders, the rest looks lite it has been torn off. This girl looks often a bit bored, but she lighted up very much and performed very well.
The day (and week) was closed by a repeat with Ella, who performed well, but the environment was a bit disturbing, all rooms were occupied so we went to the upstairs kino, and had the pole dance music next door.
All in all a nice week!
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Visited Artemis a few months ago.
Having been in Palace within the past month, for me, this is still the best fkk in germany.
Had a nice encounter with a Portugese gal. I want to say her name is Priscilla. She told me she also works alot in I think Hamburg. Not sure though.
I had entered the main bar area and walked around, wearing a towel around my waist. Surveying the crowd. I sat down, and she came over to me within two minutes. She seemed really cool and friendly. I thought she was hot. Great, smoking body. And great eyes. Cool attitude. Said okay and away we went.
She deep french kissed me on and off for an hour. Aside from other things, she was simply fantastic. I came in her with our mouths interlocked on each other. She was a real champion and wonderful lady. She wanted to meet for breakfast the next am and screw some more. I almost changed my flight for her. Spent 1. 5 hours with her. Great time.
Next was my 2nd, er 3rd pop for the night. Met a hot brazilian. Girl next door type with a smokin hot body, thin, but curvy, my type. Dark skin. Black eyes. Laeticia was her name and she was a real doll. came inside her while kissing and holding her. She kissed me longly afterwards on the lips and held me close to her. Nice. Artemis is the best in my book. Can't wait to return to this top notch establishment.
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Ecki Tips
It is in German but here is a short video of Ecki (aka Rod Stewart) the manager at Artemis in which he gives us some tips.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgvcGiCTewo[/url]
No girls or anything, just Ecki on the patio telling us how he expects us to behave.
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]It is in German but here is a short video of Ecki (aka Rod Stewart) the manager at Artemis in which he gives us some tips.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgvcGiCTewo[/url]
No girls or anything, just Ecki on the patio telling us how he expects us to behave.
AM[/QUOTE]Is there anything important to know?
I'm planning another trip to Berlin for the 8 and 9th of december, with a couple of friends. That's going to be my first "lingerie night" at Artems :-)
One thing I forgot to mention in earlier reports... girls started asking for a "tip". Did anyone else notice this?
@Angus If you are there in these days, and you feel like it, i'd love to say "Ciao" to you, vis a vis!
Bye
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[QUOTE=Kimino]Is there anything important to know?[/Quote]
Certainly nothing earthshaking. He says don't be drunk, be clean (and very diplomatically says that different nationalities have different standards of clean), don't show off (I think that is what prahle nicht means), be nice to the girls and the last is, I think, don't fall in love.
The last one can be difficult for an old dog like me;-))
[QUOTE=Kimino]I'm planning another trip to Berlin for the 8 and 9th of december, with a couple of friends. That's going to be my first "lingerie night" at Artems :-)
One thing I forgot to mention in earlier reports... girls started asking for a "tip". Did anyone else notice this?
@Angus If you are there in these days, and you feel like it, i'd love to say "Ciao" to you, vis a vis!
Bye[/QUOTE]
Possible that I will make a visit at that time. But it is a bit to far off to tell.My pooning budget is a bit compromised at the moment as my job is in flux.
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]...the last is, I think, don't fall in love.[/QUOTE]
Spoken like a true killjoy, AM. I have a rule, which has worked well for me, except for the times that it didn't work at all. (And if I had a loonie for each of these exceptions, I could likely fund my next flight across the pond.)
The rule is: I must fall out of love in no more than three times the amount of time that it took me to fall in love. If I fall in love in 15 minutes, then I am required to fall out of love within 45 minutes of the young lady's departure.
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[QUOTE=Regnad]Spoken like a true killjoy, AM. I have a rule, which has worked well for me, except for the times that it didn't work at all. (And if I had a loonie for each of these exceptions, I could likely fund my next flight across the pond.)
The rule is: I must fall out of love in no more than three times the amount of time that it took me to fall in love. If I fall in love in 15 minutes, then I am required to fall out of love within 45 minutes of the young lady's departure.[/QUOTE]
Sounds a good rule of thumb. I might just use it;-)
Myself I just let it happen as it does from time to time. It is after all one of the pleasures of the game. Over the years I have found that I fall just as hard as ever but I do not take it quite so seriously. Like you, had I a Euro for every time I thought to myself "I can never live without her..." I would be a rich man indeed. Yet here I am, still standing & alive. Ready for the next go round I suppose.
IMO there is so much harshness in this world that love, in what ever form it cares to take-great romantic love, the steadiness of a 60 year marriage or simple infatuation with an sp, is like a breath of fresh air where ever it happens. Old Angus is an incurable romantic.
So despite Ecki's warning-bring it on oh Venus.
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]be clean (and very diplomatically says that different nationalities have different standards of clean),[/QUOTE]Yeah, talked about that with a girl last time I was there, she also told me about the general attitude towards girls that some nationalities have. Obviously talking in general.
[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Possible that I will make a visit at that time. But it is a bit to far off to tell. My pooning budget is a bit compromised at the moment as my job is in flux.[/QUOTE]I'll remember this to you when I'm about to go to Berlin, and if it's going to happen. Great!
Ciao
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Sounds a good rule of thumb. I might just use it;-)
Myself I just let it happen as it does from time to time. It is after all one of the pleasures of the game. Over the years I have found that I fall just as hard as ever but I do not take it quite so seriously. Like you, had I a Euro for every time I thought to myself "I can never live without her..." I would be a rich man indeed. Yet here I am, still standing & alive. Ready for the next go round I suppose.
IMO there is so much harshness in this world that love, in what ever form it cares to take-great romantic love, the steadiness of a 60 year marriage or simple infatuation with an sp, is like a breath of fresh air where ever it happens. Old Angus is an incurable romantic.
So despite Ecki's warning-bring it on oh Venus.[/QUOTE]
That is an extra service starting at 200E.
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Excuse my question if it is a naive and silly one but I shall be in Berlin next weekend and have never experienced the FKK scene.
I found out about Artemis, read reports and it seems it is the place I should visit for a good time out.
My question is this:
I read that one pays the 80 Euros entrance etc and then all the reports of guys meeting girls, chatting them up and go for their session. Does that mean one pays for every session that he has? Meaning if one decides to have two sessions in the evening, there is an added payment each time?
Again, being my first time, I just thought I'd better ask than be sorry.
Notwithstanding, the place sounds Heavenly!
Thank you all.
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[QUOTE=The Vulcan]...I read that one pays the 80 Euros entrance etc and then all the reports of guys meeting girls, chatting them up and go for their session. Does that mean one pays for every session that he has? Meaning if one decides to have two sessions in the evening, there is an added payment each time?....[/QUOTE]
Yes, you pay for each session as soon as it is over, directly to the girl. 1/2 hour 60 euros, 1 hour 120 euros. CIM 50 euros extra, anal 100 euros extra, both regardless of the length of the session. Other services, and the price thereof, can be negotiated directly with the girl.
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[QUOTE=Lorenzo] CIM 60 euros extra[/QUOTE]
Unless I am very much mistaken, or prices have been raised since my last visit one month prior, CIM is not 60 but 50 euros extra. Otherwise the price structure Lorenzo describes is accurate.
The only place you have to be careful is with such service as COB (cum on breast) which can be charged at 50 euros but should (IMO) not be charged extra. I personally try to avoid such misunderstandings by finishing where nature intended-in a condom in pussy. And the occasional CIM when I really can't help myself.
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Unless I am very much mistaken, or prices have been raised since my last visit one month prior, CIM is not 60 but 50 euros extra. Otherwise the price structure Lorenzo describes is accurate.
The only place you have to be careful is with such service as COB (cum on breast) which can be charged at 50 euros but should (IMO) not be charged extra. I personally try to avoid such misunderstandings by finishing where nature intended-in a condom in pussy. And the occasional CIM when I really can't help myself.[/QUOTE]
I double-checked my notes, and you are correct; CIM is 50 euros extra. I edited my post to correct the error. Sorry 'bout that! :o
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[QUOTE=Lorenzo]I double-checked my notes, and you are correct; CIM is 50 euros extra. I edited my post to correct the error. Sorry 'bout that! :o[/QUOTE]
No worries-but you did have me a bit in shock for a moment;-))
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Jane and Maya
I visited Artemis recently. In terms of looks, I found there were more hot girls in Artemis than in Palace in Frankfurt I recently visited. Two girls really stood out -- Jane from Germany and Maya from Poland. Both appeared to be around or slightly over 20 yr old. Jane was tall, blonde, barbie doll like. Maya was a petite/shorter version of that.
Jane was friendly enough when I was talking to her, so I decided to go to the room. Her service was fine but with a lot of limitations -- no kiss (not even LFK), no DATY, no Digits, no Rimming. Are they standard at FKK? It did not affect me that much, and I had a good time with her. But some members might be put off by that.
Maya did not provide kiss either, but I did not attempt it with her. So I cannot say if she does or does not provide kiss. You need to find out by yourself. Like Jane, no DATY, no Digits, no rimming.
Overall, both sessions were enjoyable. But not overwhelming either. Both were typical opta sex.
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[QUOTE=Rain City]I visited Artemis recently. In terms of looks, I found there were more hot girls in Artemis than in Palace in Frankfurt I recently visited. Two girls really stood out. Jane from Germany and Maya from Poland. Both appeared to be around or slightly over 20 yr old. Jane was tall, blonde, barbie doll like. Maya was a petite/shorter version of that.
Jane was friendly enough when I was talking to her, so I decided to go to the room. Her service was fine but with a lot of limitations. No kiss (not even LFK), no DATY, no Digits, no Rimming. Are they standard at FKK? It did not affect me that much, and I had a good time with her. But some members might be put off by that.
Maya did not provide kiss either, but I did not attempt it with her. So I cannot say if she does or does not provide kiss. You need to find out by yourself. Like Jane, no DATY, no Digits, no rimming.
Overall, both sessions were enjoyable. But not overwhelming either. Both were typical opta sex.[/QUOTE]Yeah I agree jane was the best looking but limited to what she would do no kissing. But at least I got DATY with her but for all 10 seconds. But I have to say she was the best one to ride. And maya does kiss shame you didn't ask her she was really nice one of my favorite. I'm looking forward to my next fkk vist but I think it will be augsburg cola so be interesting to compare both clubs.
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Field Report - Artemis friday 16th of October.
i visited berlin with a couple of friends in mid october, in order to attend the international venus fair - the erotica trade show. of course i also managed to sneak away a couple of times to visit nearby artemis. here follows a report in two parts.
i visited artemis mid afternoon on october 16th and 17th (friday+saturday). having learned from previous punting, i came prepared this time: i had a thick wad of euro-bills and had a couple of blue pills in my pocket. and this post will amount to an ode of praise for the little blue pills, let me tell you :)
for some reason, i tend to suffer from erectile dysfunction whenever i go looking for p4p. the lady can be infinitely attractive, have a nice personality and manner, etc, yet i often find that i can barely achieve or sustain enough of an erection to be able to finish during intercourse. instead, i usually have to give up and either finish by hand, or have the lady finish me off with hands and mouth. this has never happened with a long-standing partner, only during one-time encounters. it is entirely psychological, of course.
so this time i swallowed 50 mg of viagra and 100 mg of kamagra during the taxi-ride to artemis, and boy did they work! i won't bore you with details on the layout of the facilities - instead, let's jump straight to the line-up:
whether it was because of the venus messe or not, i can't tell, but the action seemed rather slow on friday afternoon. i counted perhaps twenty ladies in circulation, and perhaps ten or fifteen rooms were occupied upstairs. i had hoped to see someone i recognised, but alas, neither ella nor aida were to be found. i prowled the various locations for perhaps 45 minutes, looking for a likely candidate, warding off just a few ladies who had adopted a more aggressive approach to selling. avoiding eye contact, or averting my eyes rather quickly, seemed to be enough no to be approached too often.
it struck me that this was a decidedly different thing than half a year ago, when i was here in april. then there were more ladies, and more of them approached me directly. but i digress: i spotted a very nice looking thai lady talking with an allied girl, and since she fit my specification to nearly 90 percent, i immediately approached her.
she introduced herself as inga. being from sweden myself, this struck me as quite funny. inga stands around 148-150 cm tall, and weighs in around 38-40 kilos, including a pair of bolt-on silicone implants, which i suppose take her from no breasts at all to a decent 32b-cup. inga is very petite - very size zero. perfect size, in my book! also, she speaks decent english - enough at least to handle the necessities of her trade.
unfortunately, i had left my brain behind this day, so instead of asking her to share a glass of something with me at the bar, i asked her straight away if she would like to go to a room with me (ah, the sweet euphemisms we surround ourselves with). to which she agreed, of course. so she took me by the hand, and we went upstairs.
before going into the room, i popped the question: do you do anal? she told me that she had started doing so quite recently, and was by no means an expert. she would try, if i was not too big and if i promised to be gentle... :) since asking for anal implies that my wallet is packed, she tried to upsell: she suggested that she go fetch a good friend, and we could have a threesome, but when i declined, she did not insist. she did it just right!
now on to the sex: we kissed a bit (she responded, but was not very good), i fondled her body and complilmented her on how perfect i . she cleaned my penis with wipes and some kind of desinfectant and then gave me a prolonged bareback blowjob in a couple of different positions. when i oozed a bit of precum, she gave my penis a humorous slap and went to spit in the paper bin. and this is when i must direct a hymn of praise to my dear friend sildenafil (viagra): had it happened without viagra that i really didn't establish chemistry with a girl, and that she had slapped my dick in a manner that could be subject to interpretation, i would have immediately lost stiffness. but not now! i was rock hard throughout the encounter!
anyways: then followed a bit of daty in various positions, some posing and fondling, then more owo, a bit of 69 and on to some (covered) cowgirl. here is where i need to make an observation. fucking a girl who is a third your own size feels really amazing! at least to me, hebephile pervert that i am. inga had an amazingly tight pussy, and really had to work a bit to cram me inside - even though my penis is quite average @ 16 cm length and 14 cm in circumference. watching the contrast in size was very stimulating. we kept at it for about five or ten minutes in various positions, while i kept looking in the mirrors to really see the contrast.
then it was anal time.
she got out the lube and prepped herself with a couple of fingers. then we tried doggy for insertion. again, i can't tell you how glad i am that i had viagra coursing through my veins. i didn't lose a bit of stiffness while waiting, and when it turned out that doggy entry wouldn't work, we tried spooning and then missionary without even a glitch! wonderful! inga had serious problems taking me anally at first. the first two inches went well, but then the curve and girth of my penis made further entry impossible. so we took things slowly, and finally managed full penetration in missionary, after a few minutes of very slow fucking.
i finished in her ass, after slowly building up speed and force of penetration to where i giving her a serious pounding. and that last minute was truly amazing. great value for money and some truly great optics and sonics to record on the internal harddrive. this is why i will keep asking for anal in the future: even a bored working girl with whom you don't really connect, will be very present in the moment, when you are pounding her ass. there's no ignoring the feeling on her part. and that shows in her facial features.
after some quick cleaning up, we chatted about life at artemis and inga told me about her good experiences with scandinavian men in general. apparently, we are considered well-mannered by most working girls - the only group more well-liked are americans. inga explained that she had had bad experiences with italian men, when agreeing to anal sex. they don't respect that she needs them to go slowly in the beginning - instead, they say that they have purchased the service, and expect it delivered... what she said, though in not so many words, was that she had, for all intents and purposes, been raped anally by italian men at several occasions. that's why she is a bit reticent about agreeing to anal sex before getting a feel for what her client is like...
hearing things like that can make me seriuosly sick to the stomach! i'm in this punting business for the fun, and find that most girls i meet actually quite enjoy what they do - or at least find it the most appealing line of work among the available options. fortunately, this line of conversation didn't really register emotionally until after a few hours - when we left the room, i was a very pleased customer indeed, and i gave inga the 50+100 euros with a smile on my lips.
on a scale of 1-10, here are some numbers for my session with inga:
body: 9 (a sure 10 if she hadn't had those bolt-on breasts)
face: 5 (quite homely, imo)
bedside manners: 8 (better english and a bit of humour would help things a bit, but she was very nice indeed)
chemistry: 6 (we didn't connect, but had a nice time. polite and businesslike.)
kissing: 5 (ok, she kissed, but didn't really lean in to it. all business.)
sex: 7 (but that was all because of the uninspired kissing and lack of genuine enthusiasm. her skills are more than adequate, and her pussy incredibly tight.)
oral: 6 (no real skills to speak of)
would i repeat? sure, but only because of her very petite and perfect body and because she does anal. other than that, a mediocre encounter.
i was in a hurry, so i showered and left. all in all, 80+150 euros - very steep for just entry + 30 minutes with anal. when next i visit artemis, i must make sure that i can spend the whole day there! in my next post, i will detail my encounter with maribelle from ghana the next day.
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Not what I was expecting :)
Was in Berlin today so I visited Artemis for the first time in over a year. Got there around 12:30 in the afternoon. There were just a few guys there and around 15 girls with a new girl or two coming in every 5 to 10 minutes. The selection was much better than my last visit here. My goal was to find a girl within an hour and spend an hour with her in a room then get on with my day and do some sightseeing. After sitting in the main room for about 30 minutes I was getting ready to make my choice. I was thinking about a pretty blond (can't remember her name) from Hamburg who spoke good english or possibly Lucy a MILF from Prague with a very pretty face. Then this beautiful bleached blond walks in and I was in love. Sorry but I can't remember her name (did I mention I'm bad with names?). She was 21, from Modavia stood about 6'4" with shoe stilts on, about 5'8" without the shoe stilts. She has blond hair with black roots and spoke decent English. She said she spoke better English then German. Anyway, I went for an hour with her. She said she just got there and I was her first customer. Because of her beauty, I wasn't expecting very good service but I really didn't care because she was just so beautiful. Turned out I was wrong. The service was excellent. Everything you would hope for. It usually takes me a while to finish the 2nd time and most girls get tired and ask me to finish myself when there is still plenty of time on the clock. Not with good old what's her name. She was griding away on me for the full hour enjoying herself. When we were about 55 minutes into the session, I looked at my watch and told her I wasn't sure if I would be able to come a 2nd time. She said not to worry, we had plenty of time left and continued to grind away. I finished with just under a minute to spare. Any way, I highly recommend this girl. I just wish I could remember her name. I think it had five or six letters in it with an are and maybe a V. It's just nice to get such good service from such a beautiful girl.
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Girl's name from my last report
Not 100% sure but I think it was "Amber"
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First visit
After reading about Artemis here I just have to visit!
I'm a little bit worried about sexually transmitted dieases thou. I cant see that issue being talked about anywhere in the forum so maybe that is no problem?
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Artemis Report-28/11/09
I had not been to Artemis for about a month now and decided upon a visit last night. Currently I am experiencing my own little economic downturn so while I took enough funds for a full on Artemis snog fest I actually hoped to keep some in reserve.
I arrived just as the cold Berlin November rain started to blow uncomfortably into my face and it was getting dark. A perfect late afternoon to hang in the sauna and downstairs in the Artemis lounge. As always the late afternoon crowd of girls prowled the upstairs bar. Today the male population seemed to be fairly high for an afternoon and I quickly figured out that it was to be Italian night here in Artemis with a large contingent from bella Italia in attendance. Fine by me, but I knew some of the girls would not be happy.
A months absence and I noticed a number of new faces. But to be honest I was not overly impressed with any of them. For a Saturday evening during one of the busier times in the year I did not see any stunners. But it was early days for the evening so I buried my snout on my book and waited.
I actually had my first session of the evening pretty much decided. I have mentioned before Nicoletta (Bulgaria-early twenties-new boobs) and she is pretty much my favorite girl at Artemis. While she is not an absolute stunner she has something and I have a really nice and easy friendship with her. It is always a delight to see Nicoletta and I had visions of her dancing around in my head since Friday morning.
But as the evening wore on I did not see her. Inconceivable! It was Saturday and Nicoletta is about as regular as they get at Artemis for attendance.
I ate (very crowded in the dining room) sat in the bar and finally came to roost at the base of the stairs considering my options....
Then, up above on the landing I spotted Nicoletta heading into the bar. Happy Days!. I gave her sometime to eat and then went off in search only to find her crossing the bar with her friend Victoria. After a big welcoming hug & kiss we were of to one of the bar beds for a cuddle and to get reacquainted. From there it was a pretty quick trip up to the rooms and another fun session with Nicoletta. This young lady again gets the Angus Magee five star to rating and the introduction of a new acronymic tag. The FBE-Fuck Buddy Experience.
After Nicoletta I did not want to then stumble into a disappointing second session so I spent some time considering my options. There were a couple of hopefuls, topping the list being Connie, also early twenties, Bulgarian and a friend to Nicoletta. I have been with Connie once before for an early summer romp in a downstairs Kino room that was very memorable for the BJ alone. I have always wanted a rematch with this tall, ultra slim beauty but things just never seemed to work out with her. She is a busy girl and one need to catch her at a time when she is in the mood for a little slap & tickle or she can be a bit impatient with the pre session niceties.
Today I could not seem to catch up with her, and I did need some recovery time so I waited.
I also had my eye on a tall Hungarian girl whose name escapes me. I had chatted with her before on avery busy summer evening and things went awry when she point blank told me that she had no time to get acquainted that evening. We were to fuck or fuck off was her message. Not at all my style, but still she is a beauty-tall, long brown hair, pretty school girlish face and a beautiful pair of natural breasts. I seem to remember that one of the ISG team (maybe Blue Swede?) had a session with her around the same time and gave her a fairly positive report if only for her youthful beauty.
But she is also a busy girl and seems to be a bit difficult to contact with out being absolute direct which then puts the monger in rather a bad bargaining position I find. So I waited at the base of the stairs with Connie & Hungarian Honey as my target providers knowing that sooner or later the whole world passes by this busy spot.
Hungarian Honey arrived first. She spotted Old Angus, read accurately the gleam in his eye and was soon spreading her towel next to him. Today she seemed to have a bit of time for talk and we exchanged pleasantries in English. I knew that she would not wait long before popping the question and when it came I was more or less decided that we would be headed upstairs. Perhaps this was not to be a GFE but I did want to perve out on her lanky body.
So-Was machen wir? came the question-now in German.
Was machts du? I asked,
A puzzled look. Not the sharpest knife in the drawer I think.
Kussen wir?
Nein.
OH.
That was it. I was on pretty thin ice with Hungarian Honey and finding out that she would not be kissing was a total deal breaker tonight. Yes she is sweet but Angus has his standards and tonight (unlike many nights) he was sticking to them.
I indicated that the no kissing rule was a deal breaker and HH was off like a shot.
Connie appeared and the disappeared a couple of times always a girl with a mission it seemed.
I considered than calling it a night but at around 22:30 found myself at the bar having a final espresso when Connie appeared and took the stool next to mine.
She smiled, I kissed he cheek and then the other and suggested a more comfortable seat. Off we went and ended up again on a bar bed for a slightly teasing conversation in which my young Bulgarian beauty played all her cards perfectly to give Old Angus just the right amount of illusory romance to get him to commit quickly to an upstairs session.
Again I was very pleased with the session. Connie did not disappoint with her BJ skills and little A responded well and much as I was tempted to allow a CIM I did not want the added expense. That and Connie did look great being fucked from behind. She performed with gusto and enthusiasm and even towards the end seemed to lose her self a bit (illusion I know) with the dirty talk, begging this old dog to fuck her hard from behind.
So it was with Connie a standard half hour session with a nice leisurely 10 minute pillow talk at the end. I find her to be a nice girl who can be a bit business like but once she thaws a bit is really rather sweet. And if you like tall girls with impossibly tight behinds (I mean the type with indents on the ass cheeks) then Connie could be for you.
Now I was pretty satisfied with the evening. An regular favorite-Nicoletta-and a successful rematch-Connie. What more could I want?
Still. Artemis is nothing if not hard to leave. So I hung around and relaxed until about 01:00. I almost took a final session with a young Romanian (Sacha?) with a very tempting pair of puffy nipples. What saved me was her unfortunate rant about men who wanted a bit of kiss & cuddle in the bar-before going to the room. The poor girl finally asked me what I like and I managed with a straight face to say that I loved nothing less than a bit of a kiss & a cuddle before heading to the room.
Again, this girl was not the brightest and I got the feeling that even then she did not realize just how little chance there was for her, after her rant, of getting me to a room and seperating me from my cash.
So I bade her good night, let slip that I admired her nipples and hit the showers and then the S-Bahn. A successful (if not stellar) evening and brought in very much on budget:-)
Thanks for reading.
AM
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee] Today the male population seemed to be fairly high for an afternoon and I quickly figured out that it was to be Italian night here in Artemis with a large contingent from bella Italia in attendance. Fine by me, but I knew some of the girls would not be happy.[/QUOTE]And although generalizing si probably not correct, I do understand them, a bit.
Couple of times I did pretend I was from Canada just to take the distance from the crowd of rude idiots going around in there.
I talked about this with quite a few girls.
Oh well.
Ciao!
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[QUOTE=Norjan]I'm a little bit worried about sexually transmitted dieases thou. I can't see that issue being talked about anywhere in the forum so maybe that is no problem?[/QUOTE]Sexually transmitted dieases is a problem, in general.
Everyone uses condoms and rationalize on non protected oral sex being "less dangerous". At least that's my understanding.
That's my behaviour anyways.
I know for sure of people asking the girls in Artemis to have non protected sex. I don't think this is frequent, and I don't know if any of the girls accept it. I hope not, but I'm scared it's yes.
Anyway, I am interested to hear what others think about this.
Ciao
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[QUOTE=Norjan]After reading about Artemis here I just have to visit!
I'm a little bit worried about sexually transmitted dieases thou. I cant see that issue being talked about anywhere in the forum so maybe that is no problem?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Kimino]Sexually transmitted dieases is a problem, in general.
Everyone uses condoms and rationalize on non protected oral sex being "less dangerous". At least that's my understanding.
That's my behaviour anyways.
I know for sure of people asking the girls in Artemis to have non protected sex. I don't think this is frequent, and I don't know if any of the girls accept it. I hope not, but I'm scared it's yes.
Anyway, I am interested to hear what others think about this.[/QUOTE]
There is an untold abundance of STD & safe sex info at your fingertips so I will certainly not start giving any safe sex advise here in this thread.
But I will say that it all comes down to acceptable risk. That is what risk is acceptable to you. Personally, after having done my own research I generally feel that covered sex & uncovered oral is quite well within my own bounds of acceptable risk. So this is what I do.
The chances of catching anything really nasty (well HIV) from this is pretty small. And I figure I could also get hit by a bus on my way to Artemis. But then the other lesser STDs for me are not a worry. Worst case scenario is an embarrassing visit to the doctor. If I had a partner who did not know of my activities I would feel and behave differently.
If it really concerns you don't monger. Or do everything covered. But then even everything covered will not really protect you from HPV which is pretty much the most common STD out there. If you have been in any way sexually active with multiple partners during your adult life chances are you already have it whether you display symptoms or not.
As for BBFS-I am sure it does happen. I even might have been offered it once myself at Artemis-though I am not sure that is what the young lady meant. I just thought afterwards that she might have been testing the waters with me. But if this concerns you-again-wear a condom yourself. This is what they are for. protection from STD.
But don't forget to have fun.
AM
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[QUOTE=Norjan]After reading about Artemis here I just have to visit!
I'm a little bit worried about sexually transmitted dieases thou. I cant see that issue being talked about anywhere in the forum so maybe that is no problem?[/QUOTE]
Most things in life are a calculated risk. Driving, eating in restaurants, and eating undercooked meats are all risks with deadly consequences. Hard to avoid all risks with sex. You would have to wear a full body suit with no contact. Kinda rules out kissing or any form of body contact. Plus, how clean are the beds in the room or the shoes they give you in the clubs.
Even with a condom, there are still risks if you are not careful. When you touch a girl's pussy, you will be exposed to bacteria and viruses. Even when you remove the condom, if you are not careful, you will be exposed to those same risks since the condom is contaminated.
Some people are afraid of public toilets and using towels in hotels. The only way to be truely safe is to avoid all sex with another person.
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I'll be wearing a bathrobe :-)
Next Tuesday and Wednesday I'll probably be in Berlin in general, and at Artemis in particular.
So, at last, Wednesday will be my first time there during a lingerie night, unless it will be cancelled for some obscure reason, I'm a lucky guy.
It would be nice to meet someone from the forum.
But I'm sure it's going to be nice anyhow.
I'll send in my report soon after.
It's been a while since someone posted on this thread.
I've never been at Artemis in days like tue and wed. I guess I should expect not much action. Is that correct?
I thought I'd go around 5/6 pm, is that too early on those days?
Ciao to all!
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[QUOTE=Kimino]Next Tuesday and Wednesday I'll probably be in Berlin in general, and at Artemis in particular.
So, at last, Wednesday will be my first time there during a lingerie night, unless it will be cancelled for some obscure reason, I'm a lucky guy.
It would be nice to meet someone from the forum.
But I'm sure it's going to be nice anyhow.
I'll send in my report soon after.
It's been a while since someone posted on this thread.
I've never been at Artemis in days like tue and wed. I guess I should expect not much action. Is that correct?
I thought I'd go around 5/6 pm, is that too early on those days?
Ciao to all![/QUOTE]
Hi,
You never know. Wednesday is not such a bad night to go. Unless you strenuously object to the girls wearing lingerie. In fact I think one of my best ever evenings at Artemis was on a Wednesday this past August or early September. And 5/6 pm sounds about right to me. It is always good to get there a little before shift change though you may have to retreat to the downstairs bar. Girls who have been there all day and have not done the business they want to do can be a bit relentless IME.
I doubt I will be there myself that day. But if you wanted to meet before for a coffee or drink, and don't mind coming to my area (Schöneberg), send me a PM and we can arrange that.
AM
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Artemis in the news....
This short article appears to day in the B Z
[url]http://www.bz-berlin.de/aktuell/berlin/wie-viel-seele-hat-ein-freudenhaus-article666229.html[/url]
For those that read German....
For those that do not you can use a translation page. It does not say too much. It is in contrast to an article that appeared last week about street prostitution. It talks mainly about how much cleaner it is at Artemis and am guessing it is part of the Artemis publicity machine.
I mean Artemis is clean-but then compared to the street, what isn't?
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]I doubt I will be there myself that day. But if you wanted to meet before for a coffee or drink, and don't mind coming to my area (Schöneberg), send me a PM and we can arrange that.
AM[/QUOTE]Thx Angus!
I'm not sure what's going to happen before "Artemis time", I'm with other peolple. If it's not this time we will meet on another occasion. Sure there's going to be other chances!
All the best!
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Hi guys.
I'm going to Artemis this Saturday 12/12/09. Does anybody know if gorgeous Anna from Russia is working or been seen around recently?
Pining for her!. Did her at last years Christmas do. Best f**k
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[QUOTE=Skristel]Hi guys.
I'm going to Artemis this Saturday 12/12/09. Does anybody know if gorgeous Anna from Russia is working or been seen around recently?
Pining for her!. Did her at last years Christmas do. Best f**k[/QUOTE]
Maybe give a bit of a description. Has she any physical attributes by which she can be identified.
I do not know any Annas at Artemis, Russian or otherwise. There was a girl named Aida last winter. From Russia, tall and very lusty. A great lay also.
Aida has not been seen since last winter.
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]
Aida has not been seen since last winter.
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And what a pity! Best sex I've ever had - IRL or otherwise.
Wish she would come back to Artemis!
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[QUOTE=Charles Browne]And what a pity! Best sex I've ever had - IRL or otherwise.
Wish she would come back to Artemis![/QUOTE]
I'm always on the look out for her CB. And you'll be the first (heh-heh-well after me that is) to know when I find her.
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Russian Anna
[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Maybe give a bit of a description. Has she any physical attributes by which she can be identified.
I do not know any Annas at Artemis, Russian or otherwise. There was a girl named Aida last winter. From Russia, tall and very lusty. A great lay also.
Aida has not been seen since last winter.
AM[/QUOTE]See link
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Been to Artemis and will visit again
Hi All
Just a short not to all that are new to Artemis or about to explore. I've been there last week and it was Fantastic. Truly a Heaven on Earth.
I went around 1400 and stayed till 2000. Got the best out of both shifts. A real mix of girls and a vast choice as well. At any given time, there were about 35 in total. Rumanian, Bulgarian, Italian, Czech, Slovak and hot Brazilian girls galore. A nice Philippine girl as well amongst others that I passed on to. The wellness level is great, one of the best I've ever been too.
Really a nice experience and nothing to complain about. For sure I'll be back again. Sooner rather than later.
Wishing you all the same Heavenly experience.
Happy mongering.
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[QUOTE=The Vulcan]Hi All
Just a short not to all that are new to Artemis or about to explore. I've been there last week and it was Fantastic. Truly a Heaven on Earth.
Happy mongering.[/QUOTE]
Some details would be nice. Names of the girls with whom you had sessions, general impressions of said girls.
Glad you had a nice time though.
AM
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Long time lurker, first time poster.
I hope to make my first trip to Berlin soon and I plan on visiting the Artemis Club.
Can someone tell me if it's possible to leave the club and return on the same day for the single admission price?
Thank you.
(I hope I posted this is the right place)
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[QUOTE=Banner123]Long time lurker, first time poster.
I hope to make my first trip to Berlin soon and I plan on visiting the Artemis Club.
Can someone tell me if it's possible to leave the club and return on the same day for the single admission price?
Thank you.
(I hope I posted this is the right place)[/QUOTE]
Leaving & returning in one day is certainly possible. I have never done so myself so I am not sure of the exact procedure but I think you just have to tell the front desk (they speak English) and they sign you out & then back in again later, giving you a new wrist band.
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Yeah you can come and go
[QUOTE=Banner123]Long time lurker, first time poster.
I hope to make my first trip to Berlin soon and I plan on visiting the Artemis Club.
Can someone tell me if it's possible to leave the club and return on the same day for the single admission price?
Thank you.
(I hope I posted this is the right place)[/QUOTE]You sign a sheet I even left my suitcase when it opened that morning the train station is very close so I jumped on the train and went into the city. But thats one thing liked about artemis you can come and go once you paid your 80 euro. I hope to see your report soon.
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[QUOTE=Banner123]Long time lurker, first time poster.
I hope to make my first trip to Berlin soon and I plan on visiting the Artemis Club.
Can someone tell me if it's possible to leave the club and return on the same day for the single admission price?
Thank you.
(I hope I posted this is the right place)[/QUOTE]
See my report number 483 down the thread about sign in/out of Artemis.
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Cheers Angus.
One other question I have. On the website it says there is a daily table dance. Does anyone know what time this happens at?
TIA.
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[QUOTE=Banner123]Cheers Angus.
One other question I have. On the website it says there is a daily table dance. Does anyone know what time this happens at?
TIA.[/QUOTE]
Well, it is not really what I would call a table dance. Where I come from a table dance is where the dancer dances on a table right in front of you. It is more a strip tease/pole dance sort of thing. There are usually two dancers and starting at 21:00 or 22:00 (I am not sure which) they dance one after the other every hour on the hour for about 15 mins. total each time.
Some times it is okay but nothing worth getting too worked up about as they do not even take it all off. They strip down to a g-string.
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My visits to Artemis have fallen off this year. I am making it there now it seems about once in the month. The last time was the end of November and I am thinking of a visit in the week between Christmas & NYE. I seem to remember I was there last year during this week and had a great time. The line up was not as stunning as it can be but the girls were much more relaxed and open to flirt.
I am thinking of Tuesday Dec. 29th. I know it is unlikely but if anyone is planning a visit then let me know and we can arrange to meet.
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]
I am thinking of Tuesday Dec. 29th. I know it is unlikely but if anyone is planning a visit then let me know and we can arrange to meet.
AM[/QUOTE]Let us know how it goes. I am planning a mongering trip between Jan. 1st and 10th, but I am undecided between Berlin, Frankfurt, Malaga and Prague. I might do a two-city tour or even take a quick hop to BKK.
As it is, I am leaving my flight bookings to the last minute.
Artemis is my top choice at the moment, but how is the line-up during first week of January?
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Artemis compared to Palace
I've been several time to Palace because I often fly via Frankfurt and Palace is so convenient for a quick stopover.
This freezing cold weekend I decided to visit Berlin and the Artemis.
The below are my strictly subjective opinions and comparisons of the two places.
Location: both are easy to get to via public transit/taxi so they are about the same
Showers/lockers: here Palace wins by having a spa-like shower area with much more elegant feel. Artemis is more like a gym
Fittings and atmosphere:
A big plus to Palace for having a small separate smoking room. In Artemis the entire bar is allows smoking
Secondly, the entire Palace feel is much more elegant and classy. Artemis feels like a cheaper more downmarket version
Finally (and what we go for. The girls). I think at Palace I have seen more stunning girls (I was on Sunday night in both) but there were plenty of nice girls also at Artemis
So, would I return to Artemis? Definitely! But I would say Palace is a nicer place to spend my time.
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Artemis Report 22/12/09
i know i said i was going to visit next week (the 29th) but i could not stay away. so off i went last night for what may well be the last visit of ‘09.
i arrived early (16:00) and predictably the place was about as quiet as i have ever seen it. almost no men and a rep001tering of extremely bored looking service providers in the up stairs bar. now this can go either way. if the girls have their game on they shift into service mode, chatting you up and cuddling in order to get you to the room. today went the other way. the girls that were there just seemed to demand a session and if you say no-the pout.
no worries though. i was mainly here to see my fave nicoletta and if anone else looked interesting….
so i retreated to the downstairs bar, read, had a sauna and waited until diner.
after eating i cooled my heels in the upstairs bar until i saw nicoletta heading for the dining room. i should have made my move then and reserved her first session as while in the dining room another punter (another regular she later told me) snagged her and reserved her for right after diner.
luckily i also had an alternate plan. liz (as i later found out her name to be) is a tall, young looking dark haired beauty. i had spotted her in the late afternoon and when nicoletta informed me of her other plans i went off in search.
i bumped into liz easily at the entrance to the wellness area and suggested a get to know you cuddle & kiss. at first a bit reluctant she soon warmed up as i had her laughing at some jokes and assured her that i was not just in this for a free feel up.
liz is (imho) a real beauty. as i mention she is tall, shoulder length jet black hair stylishly cut, wide hips, flat stomach and generous breasts. she also likes her piercings which may be off putting to some but on her i really liked them. they were tasteful & small but there were a few of them.
a quarter hour later we went off in search of a room of which there were many available. in the room liz turned out to be terribly sweet and i had the feeling that she is pretty new to the game. her service was not bad in any way but it had the flavor that inexperience brings. the negotiations were handled a bit awkwardly and when we got to the bj it was not the best i have ever had. not what i would call a bad bj-just not terribly skilled.
no matter-what i really wanted from this girl was to get my tongue down between her legs. and as it turned out she was quite amenable to this suggestion. and gentlemen liz has for me what has to be a dream pussy-absolutely beautiful and soft and tasty. and she was very responsive to old angus’ skills.
the session ended at very close to the half hour mark in doggy and was followed by a very nice cuddle and chat. liz seemed in no hurry to leave and enjoyed the sweet kissed i showered upon her all the way down the stairs to the money locker.
would i repeat? most definitely as i have the feeling that repeat sessions would really warm this girl up.
less than half an hour later i ran into nicoletta and retired to a bar bed for our pre-session chat & warm up. this lasted quite some time (almost an hour?) and she seemed in no rush to get to a room. this is exactly what i like about nicoletta-she goes with the flow and when i let her know i had just been to the room she knew to leave it a while.
i will not bother to detail the session except to say that it was, as always, excellent.
the remainder of the evening i spent trying to decide if i had another session in me or not. truthfully i think i could very well have managed it but for the fact that there were really no girls who really sparked an interest. and this lack of interest was magnified by the girls’ general aggressive behavior-not taking “no” for an answer and repeated advances really turned me off.
i left shortly after midnight and was home in very good time, well before 01:00.
so would i recommend a visit to artemis in the week between the holidays. it depends on how far you have to come. honestly i would not make a special trip but if you happen to be here anyway-go for it. the line up is quite depleted and nicoletta tells me that the girls who are gone will be drifting back throughout the first week in january. so by the 8th or 9th thing will probably be back up to speed in the hottie department.
thank for reading
am
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The process?
When I come to Artemis and have paid the entrance fee will I then get two keys, one for the safe and one for the clothes locker?
Can I bring my own bath shoes/sandals?
When going to a roo with a girl, will she choose which room to go to? Are the rooms similar?
Is there condoms in the room or do the girls bring them or do I have to bring my own?
After the session do I just leave the room with the girl?
How is payment done? Do I go to the safe immedeately with the girl and pay her before taking a shower?
Are the safes located near the front desk?
Do the girls work in shifts, for instance 11:00 - 19:00 and 19:00 - 05:00?
I have read about CIM but what about CIF (Cum in face)? Is that an extra provided by the girls?
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Artemis 101
Hi Norjan,
Even though these questions have no doubt been answered before in the thread I guess it would be quite a task to search through & find them easily. So here goes Artemis 101-the basics.
[QUOTE=Norjan]When I come to Artemis and have paid the entrance fee will I then get two keys, one for the safe and one for the clothes locker?[/QUOTE]
You will be given one key on a wrist band that fits two corresponding lockers-a small safe and a clothes locker.
[QUOTE=Norjan]Can I bring my own bath shoes/sandals?[/QUOTE]
Bath shoes are provided but I am sure no one objects if you bring your own. Likewise with the bathrobe provided.
[QUOTE=Norjan]When going to a roo with a girl, will she choose which room to go to? Are the rooms similar?[/QUOTE]
You will go upstairs with the girl and she will chose the room. There are (I think) 28 rooms all of which are more or less the same. Some are a bit bigger, some smaller, some have round beds, some square, but there are no real differences. The only exception is room 14 which is tiny and has a small bed. The only time you might end up in room 14 is a very busy night when no others are available. But the girls generally chose rooms that they like so no worries there. And as I say, the room choice is somewhat dictated by what is available.
The other exception is that if it is busy (again) the girl might suggest that you go to the Kino and have sex. Then it depends upon how you feel about public sex. If no, then insist on a room. This could be a deal breaker (it is for me) and if it is you can wait upstairs for a room. The wait is generally less than ten minutes and can be put to good use snogging etc.
There are also two rooms downstairs next to the (downstairs) kino. These rooms are fine but have curtains instead of doors and the walls stop short of the ceiling. Again-if privacy is a real issue for you then you might avoid these rooms.
But don't worry about room choice. The girl will take the lead.
[QUOTE=Norjan]Is there condoms in the room or do the girls bring them or do I have to bring my own?[/QUOTE]
The girls supply the condoms unless you bring your own as I do. I have a particular brand I like so I have them available. But-I always check with the girl to make sure that she is comfortable with using them. Most are, but on occasion a girl will want to use her own. I do not push the point as I feel that unless the girl is comfortable, the service will suffer.
[QUOTE=Norjan]After the session do I just leave the room with the girl?[/QUOTE]
Yes, hopefully arm in arm and with a big ol' smile on your face;-))
[QUOTE=Norjan]How is payment done? Do I go to the safe immedeately with the girl and pay her before taking a shower?[/QUOTE]
Payment is made in cash, directly after the session on the way to the shower. Don't worry, the girl will know where to go...
[QUOTE=Norjan]Are the safes located near the front desk?[/QUOTE]
The safes are located on a landing near the front desk and just before you enter the lockers. Not sure why you ask? Are you scared of getting rolled for you wallet?
[QUOTE=Norjan]Do the girls work in shifts, for instance 11:00 - 19:00 and 19:00 - 05:00?[/QUOTE]
The day girls start at opening (11:00?) and work until about 19:00-21:00. The evening shift starts to arrive at around 18:00 and will all be there by 20:00. There is an overlap and I believe that the girls can work longer if they wish.
[QUOTE=Norjan]I have read about CIM but what about CIF (Cum in face)? Is that an extra provided by the girls?[/QUOTE]
COF or CIF is an extra that some but not all girls may provide. It will probably cost you 50 euros if the girl does it. I am not sure how common it is for the girls to offer COF. By nature it is a pretty messy thing with the risk of getting cum in the eyes high and at the very least ruining a girl's make up. This may not seem a big deal to you, but the girls do spend a significant amount of time applying the make up so a complete pasting of their face represents 20 minutes to half an hour down time to them.
As a result I think many girls will be reluctant to provide this service unless they know & trust you. Personally, if I wanted to COF I would look for the service in a bordello where it would be cheaper and you would more likely find a girl who is a bit more into it.
Let's face it, COF is a very porn-y thing to do. That is we see it in porn and as a result it becomes a thing we want to do. In reality (and this is just my opinion) it is a better fantasy than it is a reality unless you genuinely find a girl that loves having her face splattered. They are rare. They do exist.
That about does it.
Please-answering these questions took time & effort. All I ask is that you yourself take the time & effort required to write report. It does not need to be an epic. Just detail who you met and your general impressions of the girls & the place.
Regards.
AM
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[QUOTE=Dan Danger]Showers/lockers: here Palace wins by having a spa-like shower area with much more elegant feel. Artemis is more like a gym[/QUOTE]
I am not sure when you were last at Artemis but it deserves to be mentioned that since September Artemis has renovated the showers. The shower heads are now all (up & downstairs) the over head storm shower variety. Much, much better than the nasty spigots that used to drill you with half cold water. They also seem to have adjusted the water heater so that the water comes out hot almost immediately.
They have also provided a larger area to hang your robe & dry off. The over all feel of the locker room is, I agree, a bit utilitarian. But the recent reno has addressed & fixed a couple of, IMO, important details.
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Thanks Angus
Thank you for taking time answering my questions.
About the safes, I asked because I wanted to know if there were some kind of surveillance so I won't be robbed or ripped off.
Whats snogging? (making out?)
Again, thanks
Norjan
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Artemis Report 29/12/09
yesterday i arrived early at artemis for a full day of sauna, relaxation and hopefully a repeat with liz who i met for the first time last week. it was very empty when i got there. a handful of men and just a couple of girls in the main bar.
i soon caught sight of liz who promptly disappeared upstairs with another punter. she was definitely the top choice at this early hour of the day. no worries though. i did a round of sauna and then headed back upstairs where i spotted her and made arrangements to meet in 15-20 minutes.
today i took an hour session with liz. it was a good session, not great but satisfying. liz is quite young (20 yrs.) and her inexperience does show. but then this is also part of the charm for old pervy angus isn’t it.
my real reason for the session was to spend a long time licking her pussy which is, imho, one of the nicest little quims i have seen in a while. to this she had no objection and responded both vocally and by getting really, really wet. i also have a thing for when the girl reaches down and holds my hands when i am licking. something about this feels very intimate to me.
and i also have to give liz pretty high marks on her bj. funny, it started not so great. but little a was a bit reticent and not really getting hard. the dear girl seemed to take this a bit personally and somehow redoubled her efforts, pulling out of her bag of tricks some sort of tongue movement coupled with head bobbing that got angus close to the edge over & over again. but then she would hold back a bit and start again. hey, maybe she isn’t as inexperienced as this old dog likes to think.
so after turning her over, spreading her but cheeks and giving her sweet little back door a good licking we applied the condom and finished satisfyingly in doggy.
by the time we finished the session, paid dear liz and showered it was time for diner. the usual artemis fare was served, decent but not spectacular, and in the dining room i spotted the girl who was, much much later, to be my next session. sitting with her two friends i could not help but be reminded of a twenty year old brigit bardot, my first boyhood sex symbol from the ‘60s.
but first i was to spend a good long while in the bar downstairs, in the sauna and just generally hanging around getting the feel of the place so that i could come back here and give a report to all of you old dogs.
the mood was a bit muted but not bad. early in the evening there were significantly more girls than men and to be sure many of the top girls were not to be seen. in fact my fave, nicoletta, was surprisingly absent. surprising as i have never been there when she has not shown up. i guess the girl needed a bit of a rest.
later on, at about 21:00-22:00, there was a serious influx of punters. many english guys seemed to show up (that is actually from england as the accents told me) and i think a umber of italians. the girls took this as a sign to get busy and for a while it was hard to spot a girl in the main bar. and downstairs was empty of girls. you can really gauge how busy things are at artemis by hanging at the bottom of the stairs. if there is a steady procession of girls coming down to check out the downstairs kino, things are slow.
last night i spent about a half an hour down on the bed/platforms and did not see one girl coming down for a peek. things were hopping i guess. and maybe there were not really enough girls there to keep up with business.
by about 23:00 i had more or less decided to call it a night. there were a couple of girls who peaked my interest but nobody that had me off in pursuit. then, just after the pole dance (which was excellent-a new dancer i had not seen before who was stunning and had me wishing that she was available…), i was suddenly face to face with the girl i had spotted in the dining room-the bb look alike.
we had a bit of a chat by the bar, i was interested but not sold yet, when she mentioned that she lived in frankfurt. i casually asked if she ever worked in any clubs there. it turns out that she works in oase.
sold.
i suggested a seat on a sofa to get acquainted. she suggested the kino.
oh.
i made it clear that i was not up for a kino session but she assured me that we would only relax there. and it was true that all the good relaxing spots in the bar were taken. off to the kino.
her name is tiziana (not 100% sure of the spelling) and she comes from ecuador. and unlike many of the artemis girls she knows how to play the game. the time in the kino was sweet as we chatted, kissed a bit and got to know each other a bit.
after about 15 minutes the kino filled up (with men….) and off we went to the room.
a spectacular session. one of the best i have had at artemis in a long, long while. her bj skill set is polished, kissing was oft & sensual and her pussy positively leaked juice. little a responded without hesitation and we soon were finishing up in a vigorous doggy. maybe i have to go visit south america.
would i repeat? oh yes. trouble being i am not sure just how regular tiziana will be at artemis. i questioned her on this and she just did not seem to know. i for one told her that if she sticks around at artemis she will be a popular girl as her level of service is certainly a step above the usual artemis service.
5 stars for tiziana-and she really does have tho look of an early twenties brigit bardot.
tiziana finished me off. i went from paying her to the showers to my locker to home. i hope to make it back soon but then i also think i should maybe start saving for a frankfurt road trip this spring.
thanks for reading.
am
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[QUOTE=Norjan]Thank you for taking time answering my questions.
About the safes, I asked because I wanted to know if there were some kind of surveillance so I won't be robbed or ripped off.
Whats snogging? (making out?)
Again, thanks
Norjan[/QUOTE]
Hi,
Sorry, I do forget that English is not the first language of many who read the forum. But yes, snogging means making out. If you have to wait for a room hopefully the girl is up for a bit of kissing & caressing. If she totally rejects this I would seriously consider bailing on the session. This would no doubt cause the girl some upset but if at that stage she is saying "no" who knows what is to come.
As for your security concerns-you can put those completely out of your head. This area is very, very public and yes there are surveillance cameras in place. Through out the club in fact.
I am not sure where you are used to mongering (visiting prostitutes) but at a club like Artemis you are totally safe in this regard. That is why you pay a bit more to go there rather than the sleazier and sometimes less expensive side of town.
AM
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[QUOTE=Norjan]Thank you for taking time answering my questions.
About the safes, I asked because I wanted to know if there were some kind of surveillance so I won't be robbed or ripped off.
Norjan[/QUOTE]This is not an issue you should worry about. I regularly take thousands of Euros into the place with no concern whatsoever.
I read also your earlier post with a series of other questions as to procedures at Artemis. I had most of those things on my mind the first time I visited. My advice to you - forget all of it!
The place is totally cool in terms of security and discretion and everything is superbly organised. Focus only on choosing well from the selection of lovelies and forget all the other issues. Picking the right girls is the make-or-break factor on whether or not you'll have a fabulous time there, and you need to channel all your energies into the processes of selection.
Good luck
charlie
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I've read somewhere that a guy got his dick cleaned with some kind of antiseptic wipe by a girl before a blowjob. Is that standard procedure at Artemis?
Do the girls shower between sessions?
Thanks
Norjan
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[QUOTE=Charlie 123]This is not an issue you should worry about. I regularly take thousands of Euros into the place with no concern whatsoever.
I read also your earlier post with a series of other questions as to procedures at Artemis. I had most of those things on my mind the first time I visited. My advice to you. Forget all of it!
The place is totally cool in terms of security and discretion and everything is superbly organised. Focus only on choosing well from the selection of lovelies and forget all the other issues. Picking the right girls is the make-or-break factor on whether or not you'll have a fabulous time there, and you need to channel all your energies into the processes of selection.
Good luck
Charlie[/QUOTE]Thanks Charlie
Thousands of Euros? Really?
Is it a safe walk from the S-bahn station to Artemis? No gipsys?
How much does a Taxi from, for instance, Alexanderplatz to Artemis cost?
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[QUOTE=Norjan]Is it a safe walk from the S-bahn station to Artemis? No gipsys?
How much does a Taxi from, for instance, Alexanderplatz to Artemis cost?[/QUOTE]I'd be more worried about carrying thousands of Euros on Alexanderplatz. Don't worry. If you survive on Alex you will survive the area around Artemis. ;-) There would probably be no one at all on the walk to the club, let alone hordes of thieving gypsies.
You would have to be really unlucky to have safety problems. I never even think about it. Just take normal reasonable precautions, as I would in any European city. If you are that worried, best to stay at home.
And why spend a small fortune on a taxi, when the S Bahn takes you straight there? Only if you are desperate for a shag, because it'll likely be a few minutes quicker. However, if you leave much after midnight the S Bahn may have closed (check the timetable), so then a taxi will be your only option. Cost, I would think maybe EUR 20-25, but maybe someone else knows better.
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[QUOTE=Norjan]I've read somewhere that a guy got his dick cleaned with some kind of antiseptic wipe by a girl before a blowjob. Is that standard procedure at Artemis?
[/QUOTE]No, but some girls do. It happened to me more than once. Not a particularly sexy thing. :-)
[QUOTE=Norjan]Do the girls shower between sessions?[/QUOTE]I don't think between every session. But maybe they are very fast at showering.
Norjan, I've been to Artemis quite a bunch of time, if I can give you a suggestion: relax! Go there and have fun. You will love it!
Ciao
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[QUOTE=Toscana]I'd be more worried about carrying thousands of Euros on Alexanderplatz. Don't worry. If you survive on Alex you will survive the area around Artemis. ;-) There would probably be no one at all on the walk to the club, let alone hordes of thieving gypsies.[/QUOTE]Ok, sounds good.
What about cell phone? Is it allowed to talk in the cell phone at Artemis and can I have it in the safe?
Norjan
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[QUOTE=Norjan]I've read somewhere that a guy got his dick cleaned with some kind of antiseptic wipe by a girl before a blowjob. Is that standard procedure at Artemis?
Do the girls shower between sessions?
Thanks
Norjan[/QUOTE]
Hi Norjan,
Sounds like you have an awful lot of worries.
The antiseptic wipe thing does happen but not very often. Myself I find it quite unpleasant but it does not have to be a complete mood killer. And as I always say-anything that makes the girl a wee bit more comfortable is probably a good thing.
Do the girls shower? I sure hope so. I have heard of girls that are so keen on making money that they don't properly shower but I am sure that this is the rare exception. Most of the girls are scrupulously clean.
But....
It is a fact of FKK life that the girl you are banging has been with multiple partners. Her pussy has been licked & poked by any number of the guys sitting next to you in the sauna or in the dining room. Their love juice has been fired at her breasts and dripped off those nipples you suck so fervently.So if these thoughts really bother you perhaps it is not for you this hobby.
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[QUOTE=Norjan]I've read somewhere that a guy got his dick cleaned with some kind of antiseptic wipe by a girl before a blowjob. Is that standard procedure at Artemis?
Do the girls shower between sessions?
Thanks
Norjan[/QUOTE]Well, maybe all the girls that Angus sees have a shower every time before and after they see him, but I am pretty sure that this is not generally the case.
This does not mean that the hygiene is not immaculate. I would say that with most girls the parts that need it are tended to scrupulously. But 20 or more showers a day? No, probably not good for the skin.
There are always exceptions, but I think the cleanliness standards in the FKKs are high. Among the women anyway...... Any other opnions on that?
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[QUOTE=Toscana]And why spend a small fortune on a taxi, when the S Bahn takes you straight there? Only if you are desperate for a shag, because it'll likely be a few minutes quicker. However, if you leave much after midnight the S Bahn may have closed (check the timetable), so then a taxi will be your only option. Cost, I would think maybe EUR 20-25, but maybe someone else knows better.[/QUOTE]
Agree- it's a straight trip on the S-Bahn from A-platz and much less expensive. During most hours of the day, it may be quicker via S-Bahn than taking a taxi from A-Platz on the east side of the city to Artemis which is all the way on the west side. I've taken a taxis from that area to Artemis and back and it costs about 20 Euro each way.
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[QUOTE=Toscana]Well, maybe all the girls that Angus sees have a shower every time before and after they see him, but I am pretty sure that this is not generally the case.
This does not mean that the hygiene is not immaculate. I would say that with most girls the parts that need it are tended to scrupulously. But 20 or more showers a day? No, probably not good for the skin.
There are always exceptions, but I think the cleanliness standards in the FKKs are high. Among the women anyway...... Any other opnions on that?[/QUOTE]
Hard to generalize. Many of the women are scrupulously clean since they are even more afraid than we are about infection, disease, and residues of body fluids. But, there are exceptions to the rule and some of us can vividly recall getting down to business on an FKK woman only to be cruelly reminded of a previous customer's presence. :(
Most FKK SP will shower at the beginning of the day and then wash after the session those body parts that came into use during the session. It's not only for hygienic reasons- smelling nice and clean is part of their sales pitch and most members of the male species aren't turned on by other men's pheromones. They need to wash those away to let their own pheromones come front and center.
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Hi Norjan,
Sounds like you have an awful lot of worries.
The antiseptic wipe thing does happen but not very often. Myself I find it quite unpleasant but it does not have to be a complete mood killer. And as I always say-anything that makes the girl a wee bit more comfortable is probably a good thing.
Do the girls shower? I sure hope so. I have heard of girls that are so keen on making money that they don't properly shower but I am sure that this is the rare exception. Most of the girls are scrupulously clean.[/QUOTE]It's just that I read on this forum that on a busy night you migth be forced to grab a girl right after she gotten paid by a previous customer and then I guess she will have no time for a shower.
Norjan
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[QUOTE=Norjan]It's just that I read on this forum that on a busy night you migth be forced to grab a girl right after she gotten paid by a previous customer and then I guess she will have no time for a shower.
Norjan[/QUOTE]I've actually never seen a girl go with another customer right after getting paid by the previous customer. They usually put money into their lockers and then head to the back room. I honestly don't remember any time a girl went straight from one customer to another w/o hitting the back room. Of course, this does not mean they shower back there, but there is no way to really know this.
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[QUOTE=Norjan]It's just that I read on this forum that on a busy night you migth be forced to grab a girl right after she gotten paid by a previous customer and then I guess she will have no time for a shower.
Norjan[/QUOTE]When I've done that she invariably asks me to wait for her while she freshens up. I suppose that it might vary between girls, but I would think (or hope) that most if not all do it that way.
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Documentary about Artemis
I found this link on another forum, it's apparently a documentary which ran last night on TV in Germany. Runs just over 30 minutes, and seems quite interesting from first glance.
[url]http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5276879[/url]
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Wonderful Monica
I read a lot about Artemis on this and in other forums.
Last week, taking advance from a business trip in Berlin, I had the chance to be there for two afternoon in a row.
I have to state first that I have, already, visited other FKK (World, Oase, Golden Time and Villa Vertigo); what I noticed immediately at Artemis is that the girls are, in general, very aggressive and You are forced to always repeat: " I am now relaxing; maybe later".
I am looking for quality during my sessions with girls; I am not interested to do 3 or 4 sessions in one day of half hour each.
Rather I am interested to have one session only per day but with a girl that I really like.
It is obvious that the girl sex appeal is essential, but, according to me, we need something else to fully enjoy the sessions.
It must be a minimum of "chemistry" otherwise the session won't be very satisfactory.
From my previous experiences I learnt that a good system to see if the girl is good for me is the smile; if the girl doesn't smile, I don't keep her into consideration.
Instead if the girl has a "radiant" smile, You may see that she "likes" You or at least you are not her disgusting; of course she is working, but if there is a minimum of feeling.
Having said that following my esperience with Monica (Polish):
- After having been approached by many girls, while I am relaxing in the swimming pool area, it draws near me a blonde (Monica) girl that smiles at me and she lays down close to me making me taste her delicious perfume.
Monica is a wonderful girl: 30 years old, 1. 80 meters, long blonde hairs almost withe, blu eyes, delicate features, long legs, velvety skin and perfect back.
In my personal opinion she deserves a 10.
After a short conversation in the main bar I asked her if she kiss and if COB was included in the standard service.
She replied yes at both questions and then I propose her to go for half an hour in the Kino and, in case, to proceed with an other half an hour in the room.
In the Kino it starts a fantastic half an hour for me; light kisses, DFK, bbj, caresses and embraces like we were in love. We touched each other almost everywhere and she told me that my hands emanate a particular heat.
To be continued
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[QUOTE=Nukrimo]I found this link on another forum, it's apparently a documentary which ran last night on TV in Germany. Runs just over 30 minutes, and seems quite interesting from first glance.
[url]http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5276879[/url][/QUOTE]
Many thanks for posting this Nukrimo. I am DLing as I write this and will post a report after I watch it. I hope the German is not too difficult to understand.
AM
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An All time favorite, A Chemistry experiment and A Thai spinner
The ice and snow dampen the punterload on Wednesday. I showed up around 1pm and left by 6.
Interesting array, some of the usuals based in 3 months ago.
Menu notables:
Fatima from Slovakia - I am sure she was Ivana last time. Slim, shoulder length brown hair, wears a contraceptive patch on her arm
Sol a girl from Buenos Aires who lives in Spain and travels back and forward every second week - Brunette, long hair, big tits (? real), amply shaped butt.
Kathleen, blond slim girl from near Berlin, 29 - excellent skin, green eyes and extremely nice.
Iris from Gostova in Romania - blonde, long hair, brown eyes, nice body.
Samantha tall dark haired from Berlin, long legs.
Liz also from Berlin, strking blue eyes with bob mousey hair, nice body. Piercings +++, including her cheek.
Black girls - Naomi from Jamaica, Girl from Lagos in Nigeria and another girl who was popular but did not come to speak to me.
Two Thai girls both from Udon Thani, named Lekkie (see previous post) and Inca.
Amie, a Brasilian I had been with before and posted on, looked good and Kim, an all time favorite.
Started with Kim, who near killed me last time. Very nice girl from Brasil, great session similar to last time. Finished with a head and scalp massage which was fantastic. She only wanted half hour when we had gone longer, I think - time became irrelevant. I gave her a couple of small gifts.
Naomi - cute face and lips, large breasts, good talker, she is apparently new, older 30 she says. Unfortunately she was son the upsell for an hour as soon as we got in the room and then wanted extra for BJ. She also brought a "massage kit" in a paper shopping bag - I was not keen on the massage. The sex was good, she was willing, lots of encouragement, offered the backdoor and DATY but i was not keen on either. At the end, she reached into her bag and pulled out a squirter bottle of cleaning alcohol - dooshed me down there and wiped, so I feel like some sort of completed chemistry experiment. I was polite but just paid her and got done. Would have mentioned to "Rod Stewart" but he was not around. This one is not for everyone and suggest negotiate carefully before trying.
After some recover and surveying. Talked to the Thai girls, decided to take Inca. Petite, breast implants, cure face, great little butt. Excellent BBBJ, almost CIM but held back. No problem with size. Gentle start slowly into full scale, frenetic bang. She let me screw her from behind while she hung onto the window sill and I held her legs. She seemed to like being picked up. When we got back on the bed she started playing with herself and asked me to fuck her very slow and deep (Sure). She had a funny little organism and went all quiet then gushed fluid. When she recovered she started with BBBJ again, was not keen on CIM so jerked me off while sucking my balls. Nice performance. She had told me she did not kiss but kissed me full on the lips when I paid her.
I rode off into the sunset on the S bahn. I signed out with intent to come back but later in the night but lapsed into deep sleep and could not get back for the late shift.
I will try and return later in the week. Fatima, Kathleen and Sol are on my fantasy list, Liz might be interesting; Kim is an all time favorite.
Travel safely guys.
BSK
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[quote=bearsk]i will try and return later in the week. fatima, kathleen and sol are on my fantasy list, liz might be interesting; kim is an all time favorite.
travel safely guys.
bsk[/quote]
good report bearsk. check out my last two reports for more on liz. i have been with her twice. a half hour the first time and then i was back a week later for the hour.
briefly-she is a very nice girl and i find her sexy as all get out. but she does lack a bit of experience and so has to be coached a bit in the bj department. she tends to have one speed to her bj-fast. i try to get her to slow down at least at first. but she is open to suggestion and does not get all insulted when i try to coach her. this is a plus.
what i like most about her is her fleshy pussy. licking her is a dream for me.
she also is not keen on kissing. at least not yet, maybe after repeat sessions?
and as to the slovakian girl you mention-are you sure it isn't vivian? the description matches right down the the arm patch. vivian is another fave of mine. i do not get to see her much as she generally only works weekdays and i generally only visit on saturday. her reverse cow girl always send me over the edge. very athletic girl.
am
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Video
Enjoy.
[url]http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5276879[/url]
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee] Check out my last two reports for more on Liz. A half hour the first time and then I was back a week later for the hour.... has to be coached a bit in the bj department...What I like most about her is her fleshy pussy. Licking her is a dream for me.
She also is not keen on kissing. At least not yet, maybe after repeat sessions?
AM[/QUOTE]
I will see whether I can contribute to her education.
[QUOTE=Angus Magee] Vivian is another fave of mine.
AM[/QUOTE]
I think you are right. I think she may be feeling the void ... she did not look too happy on Wednesday, which is why i did not take her. She cam up and asked why I did not like her. I told her she was cute but I was tired. I missed her the last time.
As a friend PMed: I need to screw more Europeans - go to Artemis and do a Brasilian, Jamaican and a Thai - no wonder the more local girls are paranoid - could be an equal opportunity issue.
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[QUOTE=Paride 1966]
Monica is a wonderful girl: 30 years old, 1. 80 meters, long blonde hairs almost withe, blu eyes, delicate features, long legs, velvety skin and perfect back.
In my personal opinion she deserves a 10.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size][/QUOTE]
I had the pleasure of sampling Monica a few months ago when I was in Berlin. She is indeed an experience to treasure, and I have many fond memories of her. I liked her so much that I went back for a second hour with her the next day. I agree 100% with your assessment.
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Wonderful Monica 2nd part
Her intoxicating perfume and her velvety skin has really sent me in ecstasy.
Before going to the room she took my head driving it to her pussy nearly forcing me to give her a slow DATY, then more and more in growing up to her orgasm.
She said that it was time that she didn't have an orgasm of that kind; seeing my sceptic face, she guided my fingers in her pussy telling me: " Feel as wet I am! ".
At this point we moved to the room close to the first floor Kino where we made love (as she said) in the classic position and then with doggy position. I ended with a COB on her breast.
Still blissfully upset by this marvelous experience I asked her if the day after she will be in Artemis. She told me we may meet at 3. 00 PM.
The day after I arrived to the club at 1. 00 PM and after a light lunch and a coffee I moved to the swimming pool area to relax.
As usual I received a lot of visits from many nice girls but, just for today, my eyes were only for Monica.
At 3. 00 PM I met Monica we agreed to do the same of the day before but with a session of one hour and a half.
I have to say that the second day was even better than the first one.
I have only to add that in the Kino an other punter was more interested to us than to the movie.
At that point Monica said to him: ". We are lovers. ".
Closing my report I have to say that I will remeber for long time my experience to Artemis and I tried to be back as soon as possible even if Berlin if not within my normal business routes.
I hope to have a chance to see Monica again.
Greeting to all forum members.
[QUOTE=Paride 1966]I read a lot about Artemis on this and in other forums.
Last week, taking advance from a business trip in Berlin, I had the chance to be there for two afternoon in a row.
I have to state first that I have, already, visited other FKK (World, Oase, Golden Time and Villa Vertigo); what I noticed immediately at Artemis is that the girls are, in general, very aggressive and You are forced to always repeat: " I am now relaxing; maybe later".
I am looking for quality during my sessions with girls; I am not interested to do 3 or 4 sessions in one day of half hour each.
Rather I am interested to have one session only per day but with a girl that I really like.
It is obvious that the girl sex appeal is essential, but, according to me, we need something else to fully enjoy the sessions.
It must be a minimum of "chemistry" otherwise the session won't be very satisfactory.
From my previous experiences I learnt that a good system to see if the girl is good for me is the smile; if the girl doesn't smile, I don't keep her into consideration.
Instead if the girl has a "radiant" smile, You may see that she "likes" You or at least you are not her disgusting; of course she is working, but if there is a minimum of feeling.
Having said that following my esperience with Monica (Polish):
- After having been approached by many girls, while I am relaxing in the swimming pool area, it draws near me a blonde (Monica) girl that smiles at me and she lays down close to me making me taste her delicious perfume.
Monica is a wonderful girl: 30 years old, 1. 80 meters, long blonde hairs almost withe, blu eyes, delicate features, long legs, velvety skin and perfect back.
In my personal opinion she deserves a 10.
After a short conversation in the main bar I asked her if she kiss and if COB was included in the standard service.
She replied yes at both questions and then I propose her to go for half an hour in the Kino and, in case, to proceed with an other half an hour in the room.
In the Kino it starts a fantastic half an hour for me; light kisses, DFK, bbj, caresses and embraces like we were in love. We touched each other almost everywhere and she told me that my hands emanate a particular heat.
To be continued
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Artemis website updated - new pics
Most of you probably already know, but I'll tell you anyway; there are a bunch of new pictures of the girls working at Artemis on their webpage:
[url]http://www.fkk-artemis.de/en/girls.php[/url]
Check it out!
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Are prices here same as FKK in frankfurt such as Oase and Palace?
Which is best?
THanks
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[QUOTE=Charles Browne]Most of you probably already know, but I'll tell you anyway; there are a bunch of new pictures of the girls working at Artemis on their webpage:
[url]http://www.fkk-artemis.de/en/girls.php[/url]
Check it out![/QUOTE]
Hey CB,
I was just going to post this last night when your post showed up.
I have to comment that who ever took the photos was either not very good or did a rush job. Maybe both. IMHO the photos are lousy and do not do many of the girls justice, even considering the masks.
A striking example is the photo of the recently discussed Liz. Were I choosing from a photo I would never chose her from this example. The camera angle they shoot her from simply highlights her worst features. In person she has a far more pleasing, sexy look. This photo just makes her look heavy.
Nicoletta (my current favorite FBE) is pictured with Rosie and is wearing a blond wig to disguise herself. The picture is not bad but does not really do her justice.
I wonder if they charge the girls for the photos or suck up the cost themselves?
AM
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Europa Europa
Retrun to Artemis after a days business break.
Arrived around 1.30 - many more girls than clients and most clients need playing. The fish were biting.
Notables:
Mellis from Ankara - light complexion and great breast with pink nipples.
Fiona from Senegal - black as the ace of spaces, nicely done, miltiple languages.
Given that I had been everywhere but Europe earlier in the week, i decided to try and support/sample the local girls and follow some of Angus' advice.
Found Vivian (AKA Fatima) from Slovakia - she told me some guys don"t like "Vivian" as a name so she mixes it up. Long chat with her no rush. Wonderful person, working more now because business of down. Took her for an hour, her first of the day. Great eyes, cute smaller breast with responsive nipples. Excellent session. Someone once described successful cuninlingus as "landing like a butterfly and leaving like a bulldog in a lather". Well that is very apt. This girl's clit is her epicentre and quickly became the center of my world. We fucked solidly. Finished talked some more. She then left the club - she told me she comes and goes as she pleases and had some friends to meet. Summary: a must do for DATY lovers.
I had my list from earlier in the week that included Liz and Kathleen, 2 german girls. Liz was no where to be seen. Kathleen was around but busy.
I was approached by Alina (aka Anita) from Budapest and Anita from Colombia who had been touting as a dupla. Alina is about 175cm tall and nicely built, muscular but lithe, great smile, 22yo. I took her. She was great on the BBBJ and enthusiastic about fucking but not into deep pounding. This was disappointing since I really like the feel of riding a tall athletic girl. She had an issue with my size. This was fine but I became content to let her get on top and grind her clit into my pubic bone while i played with her amples tits (incidentally she does not like nipple stimulation, which hurts, whole breast massage is her deal - I did not charge extra for this). She offered CIM to finish which i declined so she blew and HJed me until it was time. Tremendous mouth. She got a little teary when we were talking afterwards, so I gave her a small gift, seemed to please. Summary: I would like to do again, more time to see if she loosens up.
I left for several hours and came back around 10.30pm.
Was looking for Kathleen and Liz - nada. Saw Kim, my Brasilan favorite but then she left.
Hooked up with Iris 26 from Gostova in Romania. Dyed blonde, small breasts with great nipples and perfect arse. After a wait for the room, started the deal with DATY which she love and set the scene. After helping me with her talented mouth, she looked and told me "I have had a very quiet day, I hope you are ready to really fuck me with this" She loves to get pounded hard and provided considerable verbal encouragement. Summary: Rises to favorite list.
After some relaxation, I was getting ready to leave. Part of me wanted another, while part of me said go home. I considered Leki - Thai girl, who can always get me to perform. I then ran into Carrie who looks like she's Brasilian but is actually a Mozambique-Russian cross born in East Berlin, 172cm tall, breast augment with silicone. I very much enjoyed talking to her and so asked her upstairs. I was not so up to form but still enjoyed it. It was nice to spend time with her and she was a great BJ. For a tall girl, small tight pussy. Will explore again if I come back.
So an exploration of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, with several twists. Enjoy my friends.
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[QUOTE=Bearsk]Retrun to Artemis after a days business break.
Arrived around 1.30 - many more girls than clients and most clients need playing. The fish were biting.
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Solid report Bearsk.
I am glad that you tried Vivian (Fatima) and that you hit it off with her. I find her a very sweet girl and the gentle pooner is rewarded with her performance. She is one of those girls who you can have a nice long chat with before heading to the room. i always appreciate that. And she does get really wet from oral.
Alina does sound interesting. I'll have to look for her. Any idea if she works evenings?
Of course I will ad to the RoD thread.
AM
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The nationality of girls
It is interesting the new foto archive of Artemis. A lot of new faces.
Angus, can you help and tell us the nationality of every girl?
I think it will be a good information.
Thanks
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]
I am glad that you tried Vivian ... I find her a very sweet girl and the gentle pooner is rewarded with her performance. She is one of those girls who you can have a nice long chat with before heading to the room. i always appreciate that. And she does get really wet from oral.AM[/QUOTE]
I had some explaining to do at Heathrow about the Slovakian girl in my suitcase. She and I have eloped ... She did sayshe had not seen you for a while and had something special for you!!
[QUOTE=Angus Magee]
Alina does sound interesting. I'll have to look for her. Any idea if she works evenings?AM[/QUOTE] Did not get to talk to her too much. She was there on Wed evening and Friday evening so I guess so. She lives in Berlin and only goes back home occassionally. She reminds me a bit of Wanda Curtis - Hungarian, reddish, light brown hair, nice build. In looking at the pic of Wanda, Alina may have a better face and did not have the purple thing.
[QUOTE=Angus Magee]
Of course I will ad to the RoD thread.AM[/QUOTE]
I am honored. Thank you Mr. Magee.
At Artemis on Friday, we discussed the pictures not doing justice on the website in recent threads. its difficult because the girls want some privacy. So we left with trying to describe and compare. A member by PM asked me about Kim, the Brasilian - no she is not a mulata mixed more coffee with blue or green - the guys on Wed decided she looks a bit like Rachel Darrian, former Penthouse girl and AVN star. Pic attached. Obviously of Rachel not Kim
Not sure when I will get back to Berlin.
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[QUOTE=Super Cum 500]Are prices here same as FKK in frankfurt such as Oase and Palace?
Which is best?
THanks[/QUOTE]
Over all prices at Artemis are more expensive.
Entry-80 euros
1/2 hr. of room time with bbbj,sex-60 euros
extras are generally the same
CIM-50
Anal-100
[QUOTE=Edie72]It is interesting the new foto archive of Artemis. A lot of new faces.
Angus, can you help and tell us the nationality of every girl?
I think it will be a good information.[/QUOTE]
Sorry-can not really help you hear. But I can say that I find Artemis has a fairly good mix of nationalities. Poles, Bulgarians, Romanians, Russian, Ukrainian,Lithuanian, Moldavian,German, Spanish, Brazilian, Columbian-are just a few I have run across there. It is not really to heavily weighed with the EE girls but of course a bit.
AM
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Artemis Report 16/01/10
I had been corresponding with Ortos and trying to put together a short weekend trip to Oase or World next weekend. Maybe both. But after sitting down yesterday morning and doing the math I decided that the trip was not really financially possible at this time. Not if I also want to get the rent paid next month.
So after an afternoon of hemming & hawing over whether or not to then visit Artemis this or next weekend, off I went at around 16:00.
I am very glad I did. After the usual Milch Cafe at the upstairs bar and a round of sauna I entered the main room at around 17:30 and saw a vaguely familiar face.
Could it be?
This dark haired, slight beauty also stopped and looked at me with that look of-from where do I know you?
It was Gabriela(calling herself either Maya or Myra-not sure which- for her stay at Artemis) of Oase-one of the two girls I really wanted to see if I did visit Oase. Oh happy day!
We found a sofa and quickly got reacquainted with Old Angus gushing maybe a bit too much about how happy he was to see her. But hey-I was. If I can not go to Oase, Oase, it seems, comes to me.
Gabriela is a lovely as I remember. Visually a real treat-small frame, small but perfect breasts, dark hair and eyes and kissable lips. We chatted for a while but I was pretty eager to get to a room with her and so after a very short make out session off we went to find a room.
I was, I must admit, just a wee bit anxious that the session would turn out a disappointment. We found a room (it was busy and already rooms were in short supply) and the first thing I told sweet Gabriele is that we were there for the hour. This seemed to please her.
I quickly saw that the session was not to be a disappointment and Gabriele is as skilled a lover as I remembered from last time. Everything was just perfect. The bj-top notch. Slow, deep with just the right pressure to keep the pot boiling.
After a long mutual oral we put on the condom and Gabriele climbed aboard. Now I have to say that this is not usually a favorite position for me-cow girl-as I find that unless the girl knows how to move I do not really feel much and can easily lose my hard on. But Gabriele knows just how to move her hips and it worked great. She soon jumped off and turned around-reverse cowgirl. Again, this can be a disaster for ol’Angus or a delight. This time, the later, and in fact I really had to stay in control as Gabriele fluidly flexed he pussy up and down on a rock hard little A.
And what a view! With her sweet little ass and cinnamon star undulating in front of my eyes just begging me to reach out and squeeze, caress and generally worship as she worked her magic.
I could have easily finished like this and did in have to slow her down more than once to keep it going. But I dearly wanted to finish in doggy so I flipped Gabriele around ( and she is small enough so that one can literally flip her acrobatically into new position) and started to fuck her from behind.
Again heaven.
But we were not finished. After a good solid doggy, and I was getting close more than once but her beauty and sexiness really had me inspired so I kept holding it off. We finally switched to a the traditional, and sometime highly satisfying missionary.
And this is were I finally could hold out no longer. Or maybe Gabriele decided it was time to get me off and started to really use her pussy control muscles. What ever the case her puss just started to massage Little A in a way that I rarely feel. And that was what it took to, with a lasting, powerful climax, collapse into this unimaginably sexy woman's arms where I rested, still inside, for some minutes.
The afterglow was lovely and we chatted for some time before finally dragging ourselves away to pay Gabriele her fee. This was one of the best sessions I have had in many months. Definitely a contender for the top 2010 list in some 11 1/2 months time.
Now the trouble with such a session is how does one follow it? I had tsted perfection. What next.
I did hang around, ate, chatted with various girls, considering and waiting for inspiration to strike. Truth be told I also considered waiting and then grabbing Gabriele for another round and perhaps this is what I should have done. For eventually I decided, after a nice encounter on a couch, to give Anita (reported upon by Bearsk below) a spin.
I had, over the past 5 months or so, had a few talks with Anita and always found her alluring. But something has always derailed the session before we could actually get to a room. This time I decided to go for it. But by the time I felt I had enough mojo to take on another girl rooms were in very short supply and there were couples waiting in the upstairs foyer like 727’s stacked up over O’Hare.
So off we went to the downstairs rooms off the basement kino. The room we found was filthy-a definite turn off for me-and noisy with grunts and groans coming from the kino and girls prowling the hall way looking for rooms.
What can I say-the session was a disaster. I guess it was partly a result of my stunning earlier session and partly, I feel, Anita’s lack of experience. But I quickly realized that things just would not come together. I found her bj quite toothy and lost my erection when she tried to put on the condom. At this point I just cut the losses, told her I just wanted a cuddle and ran out the half hour.
Anita is a sweet girl and I would not say that she did anything wrong really. The failure was mostly circumstantial and I would say to my fellow pooners that if you meet her she is a worthy partner-just not a sexual athlete.
I did hang in for a while longer. But the evening had turned quite frenetic and the girls were in full making money mode. There were lots of them, lots of new faces and a few old ones I had not seen in a while-Ella, who I had not seen since maybe October, was back and so was Vika from the Ukraine, Conchetta (the bj queen) and Hungarian Erica. All worthy providers.
I left at around 01:00 and was home in short order via the S-Bahn and a short bus ride-exhausted in bed by 01:45.
My only concern-the temptation I now feel to head back for a mid week Gabriele fix before she leaves for home….
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Hi all,
Thanks for all the valuable information on Artemis. It has been a while since my last visit so all information I appreciated.
I will visit Artemis on Wednesday, probably arriving around 3pm. Would be nice to hook up with someone from ISG. Is anyone else planning an Artemis visit on Wednesday, by any chance?
Either way, I will naturally try and get back with a report from my visit.
Jens
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Ambience and performance
[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Gabriela is a lovely as I remember. Visually a real treat-small frame, small but perfect breasts, dark hair and eyes and kissable lips. We chatted for a while but I was pretty eager to get to a room with her and so after a very short make out session off we went to find a room.[/QUOTE] Nice
[QUOTE=Angus Magee]I had, over the past 5 months or so, had a few talks with Anita and always found her alluring. But something has always derailed the session before we could actually get to a room.
What can I say-the session was a disaster. I guess it was partly a result of my stunning earlier session and partly, I feel, Anita’s lack of experience. But I quickly realized that things just would not come together. I found her bj quite toothy and lost my erection when she tried to put on the condom. At this point I just cut the losses, told her I just wanted a cuddle and ran out the half hour.[/QUOTE]
Oh dear! Similar thing happened to me the other night on the final landing attempt. I must say I can't do the Kino thing and dirty places turn me right off. The room queue is not great. For that reason I generally prefer day time because its quieter and the bar in less smokey.
On Anita/Alina, I think she needs a little slow education, she is still young at 22. Her BJ for me was good but i was giving her instruction every step of the way in the room - in the Kino, I don't think I would feel I could do that.
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]
My only concern-the temptation I now feel to head back for a mid week Gabriele fix before she leaves for home….[/QUOTE]
Son of a *****! Here I am in Frankfurt, looking for Gabirella at a Messe-afflicted Oase, and there she is in fucking Berlin! Scheisse! Well, I am glad this benefits, you, old Angus! And I fully understand why now you would defer your trip down here for future dates...
But do tell us, we masses of Gabriella fans down here in her home BundesLand of Hesse: Did Gabriella indicate clearly how long she would stay in Artemis and when exactly she would return to Oase? You suggest she will be at Artemis for a few more days. Any chance she told you her plans for next weekend?
Anyway, it is indeed funny the way these things work out...
Btw: I was at World last night and it was rocking! Lots of talent there too...
Ortos
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[QUOTE=Ortos]Son of a *****! Here I am in Frankfurt, looking for Gabirella at a Messe-afflicted Oase, and there she is in fucking Berlin! Scheisse! Well, I am glad this benefits, you, old Angus! And I fully understand why now you would defer your trip down here for future dates...
But do tell us, we masses of Gabriella fans down here in her home BundesLand of Hesse: Did Gabriella indicate clearly how long she would stay in Artemis and when exactly she would return to Oase? You suggest she will be at Artemis for a few more days. Any chance she told you her plans for next weekend?
Anyway, it is indeed funny the way these things work out...
Btw: I was at World last night and it was rocking! Lots of talent there too...
Ortos[/QUOTE]
I did ask and she was her usual slightly evasive self. She did say "I have been here a week and will stay another week" but did not specifically mention which day she will return. I imagine she will be here until next Sunday.
She is an extraordinary service provider. Just lovely.
And I did mention to her that if she wants to move to Berlin I have a spare room at my place available.
Heh, heh, heh....
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[QUOTE=Bearsk]Nice
- in the Kino, I don't think I would feel I could do that.[/QUOTE]
In fact I was in one of the 4 small rooms off the kino in the back. They are in fact private but open at the ceiling and with curtains for a door. I have had perfectly good sessions in these rooms in the past. In fact the sounds coming from the kino added to the effect.
But last night was different for some reason. I think over all I felt a wee bit rushed by Anita. And this can be very bad for little A.
But the main thing I think was the inevitable comparison with the previous session which was just too good and too fresh in memory.
AM
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Ekki-a short tribute-RIP
Lads-last night seemed in all respects a very normal evening at Artemis. But in conversation with Anita (Hungary) she told me some sad news.
It seems Ekki, Rod Stewart as he is often referred to here due to his remarkable resemblance to that aging rocker, died of a heart attack some time early Saturday morning.
I had not a whole lot of contact with Ekki. As I am a regular though we always exchanged hellos and I had a couple of conversations. He seemed a very likable fellow to me. And Anita told me that many of the girls were quite upset last night. He was well liked by them and apparently always went to bat for them.
It is my understanding of death (and of course I do not "know")that it is much more a liberation than anything else (I mean being in a body has it's advantages-FKK visits for one-but it is not everything there is) so I do not spend too much time in sadness.
But on a human level, where bodies are quite important-I do feel somewhat saddened by this event. And it is always a reminder to us. We ain't here forever...
I post the following as my tribute to Ekki, a man I did not know well, but from whom I benefited due to his work.
Ekki Egbert-General Manager at Artemis FKK
[QUOTE=Rod Stewart:The killing of Georgie Pts. 1&2]He said "Never wait or hesitate
Get in kid, before it's too late
You may never get another chance
'Cos youth a mask but it don't last
live it long and live it fast"
Georgie was a friend of mine[/QUOTE]
[url]http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/song/The+Killing+Of+Georgie+Part+I+And+Ii/11613920[/url]
and
[url]http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/song/Sailing/1672998[/url]
I hope the link works for everyone. They are both, IMO, great songs.
AM
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Ecki Tribute
Well said AM and a very nice and a well written tribute.
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Lads-last night seemed in all respects a very normal evening at Artemis. But in conversation with Anita (Hungary) she told me some sad news.
It seems Ecki, Rod Stewart as he is often referred to here due to his remarkable resemblance to that aging rocker, died of a heart attack some time early Saturday morning.[/QUOTE]I am sorry to hear this. I did not know him, but I had of course seen him on and off during my visits to Artemis, and of course featuring prominently in the documentaries about the place. He did seem a likeable fellow, as you say.
Still, if we define a man's legacy by how much pleasure he created for his fellow man, then surely Ecki's legacy is great indeed, having managed Artemis with a high standard, and we can only hope that his successor continues the good work. I will toast to his memory when I visit Berlin and Artemis in two weeks' time.
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RIP Ekki Egbert
Sad
Fitting words, AM.
One of the most interesting things about Artemis, although perhaps not entirely unique, is the business model. Operating costs linked to entry fee, girls relative freelancers and looked after by management, good wellness facility, alcohol discouraged to avoid certain issues. He gets a lot of credit for that.
I have also heard stories about how he helped certain girls, who can be vulnerable, and clients at times. Apparently, he drove one guy to the railway station through snow storm after the guys wife went into labour in Frankfurt ... life is full of twists and turns.
[QUOTE=Angus Magee]
It seems Ekki, Rod Stewart as he is often referred to here due to his remarkable resemblance to that aging rocker, died of a heart attack some time early Saturday morning.
AM[/QUOTE]