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[QUOTE=Smoke & Mirrors]Does any one live in Nam? Know anything about the viet culture? Could you briefly explain your thoughts on this country? I've been to Thailand, is it the same or different? I have met a lady here who has other family married in the states. She wants to come back with me to the U.S. . Any factual accounting is welcomed. You may pm me-Regards.[/QUOTE]
There is a lot of information in the forum about life in Vietnam and some comparisons with Thailand. Even some discussion about the pros and cons of permanent take-out.
The commercial scene in HCMC is much less obvious than BKK but cheaper. There are bars in D1 with takeout and Bia Oms on other Districts where generally only Viet is spoken. Hanoi is as good as dead. HCMC also has a Disco scene with FL ladies and there are many ordinary girls happy to chat and more.
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[QUOTE=Smoke & Mirrors]Thanks, but i'm looking for validated opinions, not just speculations. Anyone? The lady in question is not a sex worker, but rather a family girl (only one) leaving college shortly, looking to venture out of vn. She has family in both countries. I've spoken many times with her cousin, and her husband who have been together for 9 years here in the U.S. She has other family members here too.
Are vn women different from other se asian women, or generally should they be lumped in the same catagories? I await your replies. Thanks.
To be honest there is no real answer to your question as any observation is going to be a generalisation or from such a small sample base as to be inconclusive.
I love Vietnamese girls and Vietnamese culture but I'm not convinced they travel well as every element of their culture is about the support system and interrelationships of the family.
Having said that there are a few who want to escape that and lead a totally different life.
A key point to consider is whether she wants to go to America for the illusion of America, ( It's like the movies), or the reality of America.
If she has a strong support base of family or other Vietnamese in the place where you live, then your chances of it working are exponentially higher.
As someone who lives in Vietnam, that one point is more important than just about all others, in regard to Vietnamese women moving overseas.
As to your other question I think all SE Asia women are different from each other.
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[QUOTE=Smoke & Mirrors]
Risk is all over, i just wanted some opinions from guys who have possibly hooked up with [b]NON WORKING GIRLS[/b] If by chance.[/QUOTE]
I have a couple of non-working gals in Saigon that I see on a regular basis. In the end it is hard work but worth it. One is a hairdresser with crazy working hours and the other is university educated and operates an antique shop with her parents.
I am certainly not getting into a permanent relationship with either of them and I think that they both understand that the deal is short term whilst I remain in Vietnam on a regular basis. That does not mean that I do not have to deal with lots of jealousy and heartaches etc - especially if I tell them I am busy so that I can then go get take-out.
My observation of Vietnamese people in general in both Australia and in California is that they tend to stick together and not mix with others very much. Maybe the next generation will be different.
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Non-Working girls
I'm married to a VN girl that was just an average girl. She worked with her sister in a clothing shop that they owned and her family is in Saigon except for one brother that lives in Switzerland. She came here to California 3 years ago when we got married. She is the most wonderful girl I have ever met and takes care of me way better than any other woman I have known. She is thrifty and very conciencious over money(tight wad). She misses her family there but there are no plans for them to come here. She works and still takes care of the house and is very happy here, although misses her family and we go visit every year. Thank god for the net or my phone bill would be huge, but she talks to them everyday. They are not poor by VN standards, more middle class as her mom and dad are retired and her dad has made some good money in real estate that he put away. Just my opinion that there are a lot of gems in the mix, just have to sift through them. I wasn't even looking for something when we met and neither was she.
[QUOTE=Smoke & Mirrors]I'm fully aware this is a *hore board.Thanks, but i'm looking for validated opinions, not just speculations. Anyone? The lady in question is not a sex worker, but rather a family girl (only one) leaving college shortly, looking to venture out of vn. She has family in both countries. I've spoken many times with her cousin, and her husband who have been together for 9 years here in the U.S. She has other family members here too.
Are vn women different from other se asian women, or generally should they be lumped in the same catagories? I await your replies. Thanks.
Risk is all over, i just wanted some opinions from guys who have possibly hooked up with [b]NON WORKING GIRLS[/b] If by chance.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Smoke & Mirrors]I'm fully aware this is a *hore board. [/QUOTE]
I think we need to recognise that some of the so-called freebie action is not that far removed from P4P. Many of these freebie gals are looking to improve their position in life or get some more of the better things so a relationship with a foreign visitor is one way to do that.
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M Dape Wa/ Sister so beautiful.
Chow M/ Hello sister.
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Congratulations on your happy outcome. Just an observation, though, if everything is as wonderful as you make it out to be, WTF are you still cruising this forum?
[QUOTE=B Bardill]I'm married to a VN girl that was just an average girl. She worked with her sister in a clothing shop that they owned and her family is in Saigon except for one brother that lives in Switzerland. She came here to California 3 years ago when we got married. She is the most wonderful girl I have ever met and takes care of me way better than any other woman I have known. She is thrifty and very conciencious over money(tight wad). She misses her family there but there are no plans for them to come here. She works and still takes care of the house and is very happy here, although misses her family and we go visit every year. Thank god for the net or my phone bill would be huge, but she talks to them everyday. They are not poor by VN standards, more middle class as her mom and dad are retired and her dad has made some good money in real estate that he put away. Just my opinion that there are a lot of gems in the mix, just have to sift through them. I wasn't even looking for something when we met and neither was she.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Smoke & Mirrors]I would like to learn some VN vernacular. Any places you guys recommend?[/QUOTE]Try Pimsleur or Rosetta Stone, both can be found free on Usenet under alt.binaries.world-languages.
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[QUOTE=Smoke & Mirrors]I would like to learn some VN vernacular. Any places you guys recommend?[/QUOTE]Try here :
[url]http://www.byki.com/[/url]
Basic version is for free.
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Just a answer
[QUOTE=Member #2041]Congratulations on your happy outcome. Just an observation, though, if everything is as wonderful as you make it out to be, WTF are you still cruising this forum?[/QUOTE]Just like all the rest of the people on this forum, I still cruise and look. I occasionally like to have a little variety and partake on occasion.
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[QUOTE=B Bardill]Just like all the rest of the people on this forum, I still cruise and look. I occasionally like to have a little variety and partake on occasion.[/QUOTE]
Ahem - urrrgh Variety is the spice of life!