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Higher prices
I have been to TJ about 3 times in the last 2 months, and have noticed that Hong Kong definitely has the highest prices for sex. I would find a chica, buy her a drink, then discuss prices and services. All of the girls start off quoting $100 or $80! I always get them down to 60-70 dollars, 70 if the chica is totally undeniable, but it does take some effort.
Why is it that Hong Kong chicas feel they can charge more than other bars? I admit, I like the bar/stripclub atmosphere, but when multiple girls quote $100.
I get sticker shock! Some of these chicas are only average and definitely not worth the money.
If anyone knows the history of this price discrepancy in Hong Kong vs other clubs, I would really like to hear it.
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Most of the girls at Hong Kong make their money from dancing and fichas. They don't have to go arriba. That's why they ask ridiculous prices; they know that you probably won't pay that amount. And if you are willing to pay such prices, well then....okay.
I've heard of some girls asking as much as $300 knowing damn well that they would be turned down.
If you want to have fun at a bar in Tijuana, go to Hong Kong Bar. If you really just want to get laid, Adelitas is a much better choice.
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[QUOTE=Geo Traveler]
Why is it that Hong Kong chicas feel they can charge more than other bars? I admit, I like the bar/stripclub atmosphere, but when multiple girls quote $100.
I get sticker shock![/QUOTE]
They quote these prices because there are guys dumb enough to pay it, that's why.
I haven't been to TJ since the end of last year, but even then, some HK girls would start out quoting $100, so it's nothing new.
It's just a starting price to begin negotiations, that's all. You don't pay the sticker price when you buy a car, do you?
[QUOTE=Geo Traveler]
Some of these chicas are only average and definitely not worth the money.[/QUOTE]
Quoted for truth.
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I've done a hk girl for 40 before, and she was pretty hot I thought.
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[QUOTE=Geo Traveler]I have been to TJ about 3 times in the last 2 months, and have noticed that Hong Kong definitely has the highest prices for sex. I would find a chica, buy her a drink, then discuss prices and services. All of the girls start off quoting $100 or $80! I always get them down to 60-70 dollars, 70 if the chica is totally undeniable, but it does take some effort.
Why is it that Hong Kong chicas feel they can charge more than other bars? I admit, I like the bar/stripclub atmosphere, but when multiple girls quote $100.
I get sticker shock! Some of these chicas are only average and definitely not worth the money.
If anyone knows the history of this price discrepancy in Hong Kong vs other clubs, I would really like to hear it.[/QUOTE]
I was there last in January...and I managed to get girls accepting going out for 50-60$. Granted, it was in the mniddle of the afternoon, and there was not so much activity in terms of dancing etc.. but those girls were not ugly, if not the youngest. I had an excellent session with one of those making the lesbian shaving cream show
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[QUOTE=Dreams]I was there last in January...and I managed to get girls accepting going out for 50-60$. Granted, it was in the mniddle of the afternoon, and there was not so much activity in terms of dancing etc.. but those girls were not ugly, if not the youngest. I had an excellent session with one of those making the lesbian shaving cream show[/QUOTE]
In my experience, the day shift chicas are less expensive. I've had no problem getting $40 - $50 1/2 hr. and $80 1 hr. sessions. But the night shift seems to think their panochas are made of gold. You have to be three kinds of stupid to fork over the $80 - $100 they expect. There's waaaaay too much competition for that kind of nonsense.
PP
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[QUOTE=Roguesta]Most of the girls at Hong Kong make their money from dancing and fichas. They don't have to go arriba. That's why they ask ridiculous prices; they know that you probably won't pay that amount. And if you are willing to pay such prices, well then....okay.[/QUOTE]
This one girl from Hong Kong told me she never dances on stage for tips. She was into the whole lap dance thing though for $1 or I think she charged $5 but everytime my touchy hands started wandering south, she'd push them away. That certainly ruined the experience. The first time I asked her for "arriba" she quoted $100 but said it would be $60 since it was a special day, New years. I didn't go with her. I went back a few months later and she wanted $50 bucks for a private dance which she obviously said it included full sex(which is odd cause the first time I met her, she insisted sex wasn't allowed in the private rooms). I asked her about going upstairs instead and this time she quoted $60. I mentioned to her that I'd rather go upstairs since the sessions where 30 minutes opposed to only two songs for a private dance. She didn't really know what to say about that.
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[QUOTE=Efjayel]This one girl from Hong Kong told me she never dances on stage for tips. She was into the whole lap dance thing though for $1 or I think she charged $5 but everytime my touchy hands started wandering south, she'd push them away. That certainly ruined the experience. The first time I asked her for "arriba" she quoted $100 but said it would be $60 since it was a special day, New years. I didn't go with her. I went back a few months later and she wanted $50 bucks for a private dance which she obviously said it included full sex(which is odd cause the first time I met her, she insisted sex wasn't allowed in the private rooms). I asked her about going upstairs instead and this time she quoted $60. I mentioned to her that I'd rather go upstairs since the sessions where 30 minutes opposed to only two songs for a private dance. She didn't really know what to say about that.[/QUOTE]
Never liked HK for sessions the chicks are overpriced, one thing I learned in the zona is most greedy girls that won't negotiate will provide the worst service in the room just pure mechanical fuck in&out, I always get better service from a $50-$60 than $100 ones.
HK is a good place to relax and finger around and when you get a bone go to AB or the wall.
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"I learned in the zona is most greedy girls that won't negotiate will provide the worst service in the room just pure mechanical fuck in&out, I always get better service from a $50-$60 than $100 ones."-Hornytraveler
I also believe this to be true. The higher a price is compared with the market rate, this goes for all areas, the more likely the girl is just trying to dig for gold as opposed to offering any kind of decent service.
I haven't run into any girls at the Hong Kong that would not get down to about 60 bucks, that I have been attracted to anyway, but I know that there are chicks there that would not negotiate. Like others said, it makes sense that this club has more tipping, laps, and fichas then other clubs so girls see a lot more money rolling through and don't necessarily need to hit there lowest mark at first haggle.
Thanks for the information.
Overall my favorite zona club to chill and drink a cerveza, more action going on as opposed to most other clubs having the dancehall feel.
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sat nite in HK
I was going to post while I was in TJ, hoping to maybe meet other fellow mongerers, but alas, my BB wouldn't let me post... ah, well.
I tend to be a creature of habit; I discover what works for me, and do it until the wheels fall off or something better comes along. So lately, I tend to go get a few choice cigars, then walk down Av. Revolucion and cross over to Av. Constitucion at (Calle?)Art 123. I then cruise the the blocks connecting Constitucion, Ninos Heroes, and Coahuila, in no particular order, saving Cjon Coahuila(the chica street) for last... usually.
This time, I came upon a regular of mine, Kristina, who hangs out at the corner of Constitucion and Cjon Coahuila. She's usually good for a BBBJ for .40. Not so pretty, but tiny, and pretty consistant.
Either my tastes have changed(again) or her service has dropped a notch or two, but either way, I wasn't particularly impressed this time, and after finishing with her- I should add, she is very courteous, and carinoso, now that I've been a regular- anyway... after finishing there, I made a bead for HK.
Say what you will about this club- the prices, the chicas, whatever. I love it there. It was about 7:30 when I entered. I always find a table up top, on the third floor, where I can watch the action from a distance, and not be crowded. I like to sit up there, smoke one of my puros, and enjoy the view. Its not without its drawbacks, sitting on the third floor- most of the action happens below, BUT... If you like to wait and watch, its perfect.
Anyway, this time, I sat at the table closest to the streetside stairs, and was propositioned by a few girls to buy them a drink, but I was in no hurry, and prefer to wait for a girl who has a little chemistry with me. This time, it turned out to be a chica dancing directly below, on the standing room only stage(only room for 1 girl, sometimes you'll see two, and its really crowded.) Her name was Lucero. Not the cutest face, but an incredibly tight and toned body. She's probably 20ish.
I tossed/handed a few bills to her over 30 minutes, waiting to see if another girl caught my eye, as Lucero wasn't really my first choice. But she was increasingly friendly, so when the waiter passed by me again, I ordered another water for myself, and a chica drink for her. She was very gracious, but continued dancing on the pole, which was no problem for me, I wasn't in a hurry, and was still scoping the other girls.
After another couple chicas propositioned me, she quickly left the little stage and sat with me at the table. We sat there, not talking much, but petting each other- I was trying to guage how carinoso she was, I really enjoy girls that get cozy and affectionate- she was so-so, not really kissing much, but she latched onto my crotch almost immediately.
After perhaps three chica drinks, Lucero convinced me to get a private dance- lots of grinding, blah blah... and after, asked me if I wanted to take her to the hotel. I asked how much, she said .60. GREAT. I've been quoted .80, and paid, and even did 1.00 the first time I hooked up in HK. But this was perfect. She was young, tight bodied, and fairly carinoso.
We went, did the deed- she was into it, not mechanical, and afterwards, she asked if I was going to go back to HK. I escorted her back to the club, and had an uncomfortable moment inside the door, where I parted company with her-though I don't think she wanted to part with me- I'm not sure, and made my way to the second floor.
After about 15 minutes, she spotted me, and was sitting next to me in front of the main stage of the second floor. I felt obligated to buy another drink for her, and shortly, she was back on the little stage next to the stairs. For lack of a better term, I felt 'claimed,' and she confirmed this by returning to my table. I bought another drink for her, and then made my goodbyes with her- when really I wanted to check out this other chica who was doing the whipped cream bit. Ah, well.
Two pops, one of them quite good, and three(*cough* *cough* yes, three) cigars later, I was ready to head back across the border.
HK is a great place to go, if you're looking to have fun. I have been there with chicas who didn't offer to take me to the hotel before, and yes, I had fun then, too. Part of what makes HK a good time is that it is more of a social environment- and you aren't guaranteed a 'sure deal' with any chica there... but if you're patient, and choose carefully (CAREFULLY), you'll find what you want. You can pretty much gauge what a chica there will do, just by watching.
And you can't say enough about courtesy. And respect. Sure, they're *****s. But all women like to be treated like women. This is what makes the street girls hit and miss- its tough to find out who's going to be a GFE in 2 minutes. But I've found that if you pay attention to a girl, she's more likely to want to pay attention to you.
Anyway, HK is a great place to go, if you want to change gears from the fuck farm of Adelita's. Don't get me wrong, Adelita's is great, too. But it IS a fuck farm.
Stay safe, and keep it cheap
No Z
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sounds like Lucero de Veracruz, 19 about 5' 4"-6" 120 no kids, morena skin with dark piercing eyes, prominent nose and a small mouth? She is pretty good and fairly friendly. Not much english and does only do the quick sinkwash afterwards in the hotel. Likes getting eaten out so I made sure I only went with her early in the shift.
However its very possible theres a few Luceros in HK now, so many chicas now and not too many popular names....
[QUOTE=No Zanax]....
This time, it turned out to be a chica dancing directly below, on the standing room only stage(only room for 1 girl, sometimes you'll see two, and its really crowded.) Her name was Lucero. Not the cutest face, but an incredibly tight and toned body. She's probably 20ish.
I tossed/handed a few bills to her over 30 minutes, waiting to see if another girl caught my eye, as Lucero wasn't really my first choice. But she was increasingly friendly, so when the waiter passed by me again, I ordered another water for myself, and a chica drink for her. She was very gracious, but continued dancing on the pole, which was no problem for me, I wasn't in a hurry, and was still scoping the other girls.
After another couple chicas propositioned me, she quickly left the little stage and sat with me at the table. We sat there, not talking much, but petting each other- I was trying to guage how carinoso she was, I really enjoy girls that get cozy and affectionate- she was so-so, not really kissing much, but she latched onto my crotch almost immediately.
After perhaps three chica drinks, Lucero convinced me to get a private dance- lots of grinding, blah blah... and after, asked me if I wanted to take her to the hotel. I asked how much, she said .60. GREAT. I've been quoted .80, and paid, and even did 1.00 the first time I hooked up in HK. But this was perfect. She was young, tight bodied, and fairly carinoso.
We went, did the deed- she was into it, not mechanical, and afterwards, she asked if I was going to go back to HK. I escorted her back to the club, and had an uncomfortable moment inside the door, where I parted company with her-though I don't think she wanted to part with me- I'm not sure, and made my way to the second floor. ....
No Z[/QUOTE]
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lol.... yeah, Belgrath, that sounds about right. Still haven't decided whether I'll get with her again. So far, I haven't had the same girl twice in HK. So far. :)
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HK remodel
One of the bosses took me for a private tour of the soon-to-be-expanded side of Hong Kong and it was mind boggling. This is a first class job designed to international standards decorated with slabs of marble, granite, stainless steel and tempered glass. Crisscrossing catwalks with double-tiered rows of cubicle style private rooms overlook the action below.
Although I'm friends with the management, I've never stayed in HK for a drink. The meseros are now dressed in some corny uniform consisting of what appears to be used Cal-Trans day-glow safety vests with no shirts underneath and plastic hardhats. With staff attired like members of the Village People, this creates an uncomfortable atmosphere. It's hard to figure what they are thinking on this one.
Although the interior construction on the new side appeared far from finished, I counted fifty workers supposedly on double shifts. Ordinarily, I'd guess them a month away from total completion but my friend insisted they'd be done and open for Wednesday evening's Grand Opening. A big-time Mexican film star is supposed to make an appearance.
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You mean this Wednesday May 7th? And what big time Mexican Film star?
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[QUOTE=Efjayel]You mean this Wednesday May 7th? And what big time Mexican Film star?[/QUOTE]
Yes, this Wednesday. Normally, I'd say that this is impossible given the stage of construction when I checked it out Thursday but my friend was adamant and there were fifty guys working hard. I don't remember the name of the actress but he seemed pretty proud that she was coming. He also claimed that a whole new string of dancers would be on duty.
Considering that they are more than doubling the size of HK in one night, they would need a shitload of new talent. I'm curious to see if that turns out to be mostly gorditas or if they've done some serious recruiting. This renovation has to be close to a million bucks. Labor may be cheap but they used expensive materials. The start-from-scratch design was impressive as most renovations in TJ are just patchwork.