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thaidude, count your blessings as you did what others can only dream of, screwing on someone else's dime! :) Consider yourself lucky as Korea is the only country I have come across where the prostitutes are selective and picky and where money is not always king, unless it is endorsed by a local or you are willing to pay more than the US! (at least that is my benchmark and if I am not willing to pay $300 in US why would I pay it elsewhere?!?).
I am jealous of your experience but glad you had a good time. Could only wish I could have "fallen in a love for a day" as well but think I will have to go to another Asian country to do so. Being 30, decent looking and in shape and still not getting any action is taking a toll on me personally here. Think it is time to visit Thailand or Phillipines for the first time. Will I be extremely overwhelmed by all of the emotional stimuli after departing from such a cold, impersonal country?!?! Who knows. Will find out in November though.
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I agree totally with seoulmac, enjoy what you had. I lived in Seoul from 83 thru 93 and had alot of fun in Korea, back then. I had a great network of friends both Korean and Foreigners, the fun was to be had everywhere. The locals would love to be with us from the west. I could go most any where and could speak Korean. Now in my upper thirties, still able to speak Korean, it is total different.
Korea is a total different place now. Outside the tourist areas, girls are in a whole new game. The males in Korea are making it harder and harder for the girls to be seen with foreigners. They tell the girls that it is disgrace to be with men from other countries.
The main reason for this is male to female are not equal in Korea. Right now there is about 2 males for every female in the 18 to 35 year old area. This happen un-natural during the 70's thru early 90's, couples would test at the earliest possible date, if the un-born baby was male or female. If they were female, they were abort the baby to have a male child. Which can not be done any more. Because of this for many years, now there is to many males in Korea, causing the males to go to the Philippines, China, and Southeast Asia for wifes. There is also many families, buying there sons wifes from these countries also. I know one family that bought their son a wife from main China for $2000.00, site un-since. They could not even talk to each other for months. What kind of marriage will this be. Because of this males really dislike there girls to be hanging out with westerns.
I have been married to my Korean wife for 11 years now. She was a walkway and magzine model in Korea for clothes, when we got married and still has the look of a model. Everytime we go back to Korea together, you should hear what the Korean Males say to my wife pasting in the streets when we are together, not knowing I know Korean.
The playing fields in Korea has change alot. It is more like Japan now! The Korean womem still like western, because how we treat our women. But pressures from friends and family can change their minds.
So enjoy the fun when you can in Korea, especially when your host is paying.
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Seoulmac, if you have never been to Thailand. You need to make a trip there. It is really the Adult Disneyland of Asia. You will not believe it. The Philippines is fun, but personnal security is a concern. Thailand is the ticket for fun!
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Hey, Seoulmate. Perhaps I was a bit harsh with that statement. I will not deny that I was treated well by many people in Korea. I will go as far to say that I probably was treated better there than anywhere else in the world I have been to. Koreans, especially those you know well, will treat their guests like royalty. Sometimes it went too far that it was embarrassing. I met a lot of cool people there, including a very nice woman at the observation deck on 63 who introduced me to her whole family. Yes, there are some great people there and I would never deny it. It's these people that made me really sad to leave and make me want to go back.
On the flip side, there are plenty of assholes as well, particularly some of the men. I met an old college female classmate of mine who lives in Seoul now. This girl is not my girlfriend and I made it pretty apparent that she wasn't. You wouldn't believe the stares and jeers we both received walking down any old street. One guy threatened to kill me (she translated it). I don't know what kind of treatment you would call that, but it seems a bit harsh to me! Even walking down the street by myself generated stares...or I should say glares. And not the friendly type. Most people were pretty chill, but there were enough of the bad apples to make me notice. I didn’t even get this in China, which is supposedly “openly racist”. A few foreign friends of mine who live in Korea say they receive the same type of treatment. They speak Korean and hear some Koreans talk shit about them behind their back, thinking that they "don't understand." They say it happens all the time. Also, the fact that most Korean men (and many here have complained about it on this site) won’t offer to introduce their friends to Korean women pretty much sums up the whole attitude.
So, you’re right that it ain’t Kansas, but it doesn’t need to be the South Bronx.
I think Jimhart’s explanation of everything gives me a better understanding of the situation and how things work. Good job!
So, yes, back to sex…Jim, you seem to know Korea inside and out. Apkujeong seems to be an absolute haven for young and beautiful women. Do you know anything about the scene over there? Is it easy to pick up girls? Also, do any of you know anything about Taiwan?
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Hey, what's wrong with the South Bronx? Just kidding. Reading your report makes me glad I'm in Japan and not Korea. I can count on one hand the number of times Japanese guys have even looked at me (glared would be too strong a word), and they always look away the instant I start looking back at them. On the other hand, I've had a hard time getting to be friends with Japanese guys. They're so non-expressive, and always say "maybe" or "anything is OK", it's hard to tell if they like you or hate you. I have had good success with the ladies though.
One last thing, not related to sex but, is BoA actually popular in Korea or is that just an in Japan thing? Anyway, she's a hottie!
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Nothing's wrong with the South Bronx! LOL. I've never had any problems there, but maybe I've been lucky. It isn't the safest area in the world, but some neighborhoods have become a prime location for prostitution. :D Hunts Point comes to mind; that place is great...so long as you watch out for yourself.
BOA is fucking hot! I also love the girls from SES and Jewelry. Occasionally, some of these girls get into sex scandals -- they get boned by their former managers and it's all caught on video tape and someone releases it on the Internet. Two that immediately come to mind are Baek Ji-young and Jin Joo Hee. Baek Ji Young was the Britney Spears of Korea. Then this tape of her fucking her ex-manager surfaces and it ruins her career. Her ex-manager placed a hidden camera in the room they did. From what I hear, she’s trying to stay strong and re-launch her career. You go girl! Jin Joo Hee was a gorgeous young actress who apparently was drugged and ended up doing some porn flick with this Japanese guy. She’s pretty spaced out throughout the whole shoot, but that tattoo on her pretty ass and he way she sucks on that man’s dick shows that she’s no newbie squib! Both videos are available on Kazaa. I would recommend both, but especially the Jin Joo Hee film (and the longer version of that), it’s a long-ass download, but the picture quality is unreal, as is the action and camera work – perhaps the best porn video I have ever seen. Certainly worth the long download.
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Seoulmac. Will probably sound biased coming from me but I would choose Thailand over Philippines anyday. My Korean and other hobbyist friends have nothing but praise for Thailand after their visits. If you need any tip, visit Thailand forum and ask me.
Stud_lee. My friend got me videos of both Baek Ji Young and Jin Joo Hee and I totally agree that they're hot. While I don't necessary agree with the way it's done, especially in Baek Ji Young's situation, I can't help but enjoy it anyway.
Jimhart69. I've been doing this for awhile so the thought did come to mind she was still on payroll. The person assigned to take care of me on a daily basis was the manager at my partner's company. I have a good friendship with him so we are pretty open about things.
He was very frank about this situation because I made sure to ask. If the same answer were to come from the president himself, I would have very strong doubt that it's free because it would be within his personal character and business etiquette to not reveal this fact to me.
Their company is not a big chaebol with unlimited entertainment fee. Heck, when we first met, the President didn't even want to entertain me in Korea.
You can call me naive but in this case, ignorance is bliss :)
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Seoulmac,
Thailand is the real place for good adult fun in Asia. Go to stickmanbangkok.com, He has some real good information for a person that has not been to Thailand before. If you need more infor, just e-mail me jimhart69@hotmail.com. I am going on another Asia Business trip, the 29th of November thru 20th December. Starting in Seoul ending in Thailand. Trust me, Thailand is where the fun is!
Stud-lee,
Apkujeong, I have been there a few times, with friend, more for the partying, than the girls. So I can not give you to much information. Most of the time on my more recent trips to Korea, for adult fun, I go out with supplier to Salon Rooms. The business thing. All my old haunts are not operating any more. So I do not have much infor for you in Seoul. I am always looking for information. When I live there, I had alot of information. I love playing in Korea, but you need to be a little of a insider to have fun in Korea.
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just got the mentioned movies from Kazaa. Damn good!
If you know of more please let me know.
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What are the movies store under, on Kazaa? Thanks!
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Search for Baek Ji Young and Jin Joo Hee...and ENJOY!!! ;)
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There are two versions of the Jin Joo Hee video available on Kazaa. One is 26 minutes long and the otherl asts over 40 minutes. Get the 40 minute version! I cannot stress that enough. The picture quality is much, much better and there are no cuts. It's a much bigger file, but believe me, it's well worth the extra HD space!
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what's up Stud_lee
you made a pretty accurate assessment based on the years that you have stayed in the orient. Like you I have met assholes of korean background as well as assholes of other identities. However, I believe that Korean guys based on my long friendships with them allow me to think a little differently. Sure they give you the stares, and the occasional namecalling, but relatively speaking with men of other races, I believe that they can actually qualify as pacifists. The worst they can do to you is call you a yankee, and your physical safety is never in jeopardy. When I was going to a boarding high school in Pennsylvania, I had a tough time dealing with some of the white guys in my school. As the only asian in the class, I was constantly jumped and beat up, one of them actually stabbed me with a broken glass while I was constantly being bombarded with ethnic slurs such as chinks and gooks. When I transferred to a private school in maine, the table was reversed as I found myself within a gang of asian bullies, pretty much bunch of thugs from japan, taiwan and korea, who pretty much bullied white kids that were actually a minority at that particular school (these kids were assholes as well as they came from wealthy family as some how maintained diplomatic immunity even though they were physically abusing white guys, couple of them had fathers that were involved with korean mafia and japanese yakuzas). The point of the story is that you will see assholes across every cultures and these assholes are always going to prey on the weak or the side that is outnumbered. Somebody asked me about Taiwan. Yeah Taipei has some RLDs but they are not as prominent as other countries. The girls I believe are not as attractive. I'm not a native taiwanese, I'm a ethnic northern chinese stock, morphologically more similar to koreans than the ethnic taiwanese, so I don't find these girls very attractive. China on the other hand has some of the most beautiful girls in the world, espesically in the areas of manchuria. However, I would not risk my life for it as chinese gov't is very strict when they feel like enforcing restrictions. - peace
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I will be in Seoul from 11/11-19. Would like a buddy to go venture with.
I am Asian living in Canada.
tondeuse@yahoo.com
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Haven't been here in awhile since the boards were down for so long.. but I see a whole bunch of new discussions.. let me chime in on a couple things here...
First Korean girls and Foreigners... If you are in a big city like Seoul, you are not going to get harassed if you are seen with one. It /does/ happen, but its the exception, not the rule. You will get stared out.. but Foreigners get stared at anyway. The occasional problem with arise, but in my 6 months with my Korean girlfriend its happened a total of once.. and it was some drunk old ajoshi asking stupid questions.
As for Condoms, usually only the girls that offer full service on Hooker Hill ask that you use a condom. Otherwise, it doesn't matter. The sad fact of the matter is that a) most koreans don't believe they can get aids and b) korean women use abortion as contraception.
Lastly, girls being open to dating foreigners etc. In Seoul, there are /alot/ of girls that go out on Friday and Saturday nites looking just to score some white man meat. The biggest meat market for this sort of thing is the Hollywood Basement in Itaewon. It gets going around midnight and doesn't close till like 7am. If you go there you'll get the idea.. its all foreign guys and korean girls.. most korean men are barred entry. Its just a regular nightclub but, like I said, its a meat market. Don't worry about the language barrier, most of these girls speak enough english to get by, if they don't, they'll say so. They also use it as an excuse to tell you politely they aren't interested. The easiest girls to pick up in this joint are the older ones, early thirties. They're still quite attractive and have really nice bodies for the most part. The problem is you have to be patient with most Korean women, they play the game where they don't want to come off as *****s. So you have to work slowly. The fact is, they do want to have sex, but you really have to work up to it.
For instance, last week I picked up a girl there, when I got back to her place it was "you can sleep in my bed, but 'just sleep' ok?" So I'm like fine, we climb into bed and she starts to cuddle. Then its kissing.. then I move for the breasts and get the hand.. no problem.. I stick with the kissing for a bit.. then back to the breasts.. no hand this time.. then go for bare breasts.. get the hand... etc etc it plays out this way until she's naked, I go down on her with no resistance then she takes off my clothes. Anyway, the worst part is I didn't get to enjoy her much, because it took so long to get to paydirt I was so worked up and she was so amazingly tight I'm ashamed to say I didn't last very long. But I've played out this same script so many other times you should really expect it and don't be put off.