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Aussie and Panama
If I do make it back to Cali next month I would enjoy hooking up for a beer or two. Actually there was a very good selection of regular girls at a place called La casa de Cerveza. I think they said it was fairly new and had a very big crowd inside and out. They take an approx. 6 inch wide and 3 1/2 foot long plastic tube with a spigot on it and fill it with beer and put it on your table. Whenever you are empty you can pour your own right there. There was one table of about 12 girls who were all about 18 - 20 years old and 5'9" - 6'0" tall. Dressed like and looking like supermodels. Everyone of them. Must have been another beauty contest going on. Hear they happen just about every week down there. The rest of the crowd also had many cute girls.
Panama, even though I forgot to mention it, my driver did take me to Escocia, actually I thought the name was Esconces but I was a little drunk. It was as you say only a couple blocks down from the hotels. Maybe it was just the night or time I went but the girls were well below the quality at Fresca. Many were packing quite a few extra pounds which I didn't see elsewhere. There was one very pretty girl who I made continual eye contact with but she was pretty much trapped in a booth with two guys and not likely to escape any time soon. I did really enjoy the music selection at this club and would return just to see that I just didn't hit it on the wrong day.
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Very interesting post slick1. You are a true adventurer.
I'm a Buenos Aires fanatic but I've mongered in Colombia in Cartagena, where the best chicas are from Cali. No question the calinas are really hot but the security concerns are such that overall I prefer Buenos Aires.
Anyway if you want to post further I would be interested in more comparisons of Buenos Aires to Cali.
Again thank you for sharing your experiences.
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I've lived in Cali for the past 6 months. Security concerns are, I believe, way exagerated (other than the security of the status of your girlfriend that may be bumped to ex-girlfriend at any given day if you are on the weak side).
Life is great here. Every single aspect of life is just so more relax. I truly appreciated Slick's report and congratulate him for his accurate perception in such little time. Cali is a jewel, not much tourism down here, and foreigners are most often welcome as Calenos anywhere. You do not feel like a foreigner here by the way you are interacting with people.
I would highly recomend staying as far away of Flores Frescas as possible. There, you are a foreigner with those high prices. Girls are not cutter than any closed house I've been to. I've put addresses of many of them that are on 2 AV. Norte (and have more if you want). By paying high prices, you inflate the prices for all of us, which makes it thougher to get good service for a reasonable price. I rarely pay more than $30 000 pesos for complete service that is worth the girlfriend experience.
I plan to stay in Cali as long as I live. They are not bringing me back to North-America alive...
If you are affraid of Colombia, I am not angry at you. I actually thank you for being so irrational and feel that your attitude helps preserve those beautiful opportunities down here. Should there not be fear of Colombia, life would be way more expensive and streets would be filled with tourists. That is not what I want for my Cali.
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Rastaman,
I sadly am in a poor position to correctly answer your question since I have not had the opportunity to travel to all those places.
It's not all about how they look though, it much more about their attitude toward sex. Cali women are opened and are looking for it, in Medellin, you'll find more Queens without Kingdoms than anywhere else. In Medellin, they are ladies... So, prostitution is not really well seen. In Cali, well, a girl has to do what she has to do to survive, and if she can't enjoy it at the same time as getting a good pay out of it, then jackpot.
I've heard that in Manizales, girls are so slutty that they can't wait to get in the sack to have sex (they'll get sex before even hitting the ground). This is only an inderect report from locals.
If I refer to prositution in this post, it's because I think that almost all women are pros as well as all men are Johns. Women are as superficial as men when they look for a wealthy man as we men are when we're looking for a cute little ass. How people perceive prostitution in an area tells a lot on how people perceive themselves (do you hide it, ignore it, enjoy it, display it or else). In Cali, it's everywhere, That is a sign of an acceptance of it that means that even nonpros are well aware of their instictive backdoors and are not denying themselves the true nature of their beings.
That is surely not the case for Medellin. I can be proven wrong (I have not been there yet), but I met so many girls from Medellin in the States to know that they are not coming from the same planet as the ones from Cali.
Manizales is a mystery to me. I've met the most stuck up girls from there. They do not even enjoy a little swearing when it's really necessary (without being vulgar, you sometimes can communicate vulgar thoughts) - in Cali, it always open a lighted discussion where you can talk about anything to anyone. With Manizales people, I've learned to restrain myself and talk about the weather since I do not believe to have the stuck up requirements to get even a conversation with them.
This is only through limited experience and high subjectivity, but the hell, you asked, I answer.
Question: how many beautiful women do you need in one day? In Cali, you'll find plenty, with the right attitude that corresponds with their body. So, who cares if there would be one or two more in another place. Sex is like money, one needs to control his appetite or he looses his grip over reality, and reality looses grip over him...
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and if she CAN'T enjoy it at the same time as getting a good pay out of it, then jackpot
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and if she CAN enjoy it at the same time as getting a good pay out of it, then jackpot
OBVIOUSLY...
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Thanks for the nice detailed reports Slick1. I had some yearnings to visit Columbia last year but never went. Maybe in the future. Also, a big thanks to antifreeze who pretty much nailed it when he gave his accurate thoughts on girls.
I admire people that have the guts to just pack it all up and start a new life somewhere else. Who knows...I might do it some day. I'm sure I'll make it to Columbia on one of my adventures. All I know is it seems like it has the highest percentage of girls looking for a gringo husband. When I was on Amigos.com last year I had so many girls from Columbia emailing me. It was amazing how fast they were to give out their phone numbers, email photos and invite you over to visit the family. Of course I passed every time.
Thanks again fellas.
Saint
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studplayer,
cali river varies from a fly's [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] to a raging torrent. it is not to perform aquatic sports. near cali, there is a significant lake called lago calima that can meet your purpose though. it is about 2 hours from cali, and i'm sure that you'd be able to get some chicas to go there with you and enjoy your hardware.
cali is most obviously not the right destination if you want to enjoy that on a daily basis, but lago calima. the hell, life is so cheap down here, grab a place in cali and lago calima as well.
come down and see us before you fill a container and move all your stuff. by the way, you may have some import troubles with your boat. as an example, a used car can't be imported in colombia. so, go figure if that non-sense also applies to a boat?
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Just writing to say that yet another experienced World Traveler went to Cali and was smitten; it most certainly belongs at the very top of the pantheon of cities for the experienced monger with Spanish language skills. IMHO, the security concerns are WAY overblown and it struck me as much safer than MANY a city I have visited like Managua, Panama City, TJ, Lima, Rio, Sao Paulo etc
Thanks to antifreeze for his hospitality and friendship. Yo voy a volver pronto, porque Cali es Cali.
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James Bond
I can't really compare BA and Cali. They are vastly different experiences. Outside of the chicas which are beautiful in both locations, when I returned home from BA the first time I was enchanted by the city. After returning from Cali the first time I think it is the people, their attitudes and culture which has me hooked. I recognize BA as a great city which has fallen on hard times and I have always sensed an undertone of sadness to their music, artwork and dance. I love their passion, from the streetside tango to the old man singing in the park. But I have always sensed some sadness amidst all the beauty. Cali to me does not have the architectural beauty of BA although there is a natural beauty to the Cuaca Valley. Its people probably have much less than the Argentinians yet I don't get that same undercurrent of sadness. I know I was infected with the BA bug after returning home and now I suffer the post Cali blues. Just today my girl in Cali left a message on my cell phone and even though I'm still not quite sure what she said, just the sound of her voice made me yearn for a return trip. I'm also infected with the Salsa bug. Downloaded a bunch off the internet. I listen over and over to The Latin Brothers singing " Las Calenas son como las flores". Download this song ! Although my Spanish is not good I'll bet this song really hits it on the head with the Cali girls. Just a feeling I get even though I'm not sure of the translation yet. Oh well, back to my Spanish lessons, next time I will be more prepared. First week in July is starting to look more and more like a reality and I would love to meet anyone else who will be there at the same time. Hopefully I can tap into Antifreezes wealth of knowledge this time around.
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SLICK WILLY,
Men I know how you feel after I came back from cali I was sick, sick to my stomach not been around does beautiful caleņas. I would talk to my then girlfriend everyday but men that gets to expensive so I cut hear off, life in cali is throughtly especial, I've never in my life been treated they way this ladies in cali treated me.
I've never been to BA but I have dated girls from BA actually my cousin studied medicine in BA brought a girl back to panama got married, real beautiful girl with a nice disposition. Maybe someday after I settle in panama city, I will travel to BA but right know I'm hook on cali.
You know what hook me beside the small waist, nice asses, and beautiful faces, it was the way the girl bent over backwards to please me. Anything I wanted, I would be talking just a casual conversation about lets say fish, next day I would have a fish on my plate, anytime I wanted a beer my exgirlfriend 17 year sister would go running out the door to go buy it, they spoil me men wether it was a cousin of my ex her mother her friends men they treated me like a fucking king excuse my french.... And it wasn't just my ex and hear family. Well guys good luck and I do hope to see somebody in cali for early july chao..........
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Slick, great report... I may have to visit Cali soon! Hey G, what do you think?
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Buenos Guy's,
Just writing to say all is going well, leave to travel to Cali, Colombia on the 11 June ( one more week !! ) Not looking forward to the long flying time. Arrive there on the 13 June, yes two days travel from the west coast of Aussie.
Must spend a night and day in Miami, can any body give me a name of a strip club to go to to kill a bit of time. !!
Ramon my taxi driver, tour guide is waiting with the girls all lined up !!!!! for my selection !!!!.
Diana is busy in the kitchen cooking for me mmmm home cooked Colombian tucker !!!!! ( food in aussie !! ) I hope there beer is good or I'll haft to drink the hard stuff.
Will post every two to three days while I'm in Cali ( thats if the rebels let me out to a internet cafe !! )
All the best, Antifreeze remember that game of billards mate !!
Regards, gracias, adios
Aussie greg.
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The trip is a definite. Will be at the Intercontinental from July 2nd thru the 6th. If anyone will be in town lets hook up for a few beers. I will be bringing a friend from Miami. My chica con la linda sonrisa has called me twice and is eagerly awaiting my return. A pool party at the hotel may be in order, cuba libres are on me!.
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Leo, Antifreze,Panama Jack, and Slick.
Slick and Antifreeze , loved your reports, you know Col. very well. I spent 6 weeks in Col. last year mostly Bogota and you are correct that if you keep a low profile and keep to a few simple rules you will be safe and do just fine in Col. Iam looking to be in Cali for 1 month from the end of june till the end of july. I would love to hook up with any of you who will be done there that time of year for a few drinks and hit some night spots(first beers on me ) P.S. does anyone know if Rayda Aparthotel has a web site?
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Having just returned from Medellin to work a couple weeks before going back to Colombia, I wanted to add my 2 cents in here.
First of all, SlLICK1, great report ... sounds like you're hooked on Cali too.
As for the report by MAN about Cali ... absolutely nuts. I've been to the GOLDEN TIME in Panama ... yes it has nice looking chicas, way overpriced and most "way hardened" in the business. You can have Panama ... give me Colombia anyday gracias.
I also admire and envy Antifreeze for now living in Cali ... must be nice never having to leave. I live part time now in Medellin but have to come back to the states to work every 10 days or so. I am however setting up shop in Colombia for my future early retirement ... a man can live like a king for a lot less down here. We all know that.
I also lived in Cali for a bit before meeting my "Paisa" (chica from Medellin) and subsequently moving to Medellin. I'll tell you what, they are both GREAT cities.
Cali has that great flavor about it with Ave Sexta and the way the Calenas love to be sexy.
I'll tell you though, Medellin too is a hidden treasure ... the girls are stunning. There is much more variety of looks in Medellin. You'll see beautiful light skin blondes or jet black hair all the way to Calena looking morenas to the beautiful black skin chicas. And they are very very very friendly here, especially to gringos. Gringos are a lot less common and the girls just stare at you, and with a smile and a little spanish ... you can find more girlfriends than you have time for.
As far as the pay for fun scene .... definitely not as prevalent as Cali ... BUT there are some really great places and more than i thought at first ... just not as easy as Cali. But it is GOOD too.
Please check my Medellin post for the phone nmbr of the hotel i talk about and ask for Robert or Anival, wealth of knowledge on pay for fun scene. Anival is a retired cop from Medellin.
Medellin is better for the street cafes they have, especially near the soccer stadium where you can sit and have a cerveza and smile at girls and make connections. Lots of beautiful ladies walk by about 4pm thru 7 or 8pm and til midnight on weekends. Also Medellin has a lot more malls to roam thru and search for your beautiful colombian.
Definitely the climate is way way nicer in Medellin ... an average of about 70 F to 75 F everyday ... nice and cool.
Sorry for the long report, just wanted to add my thoughts .... also to Aussie:
I also know Ramon, I'd even call him my friend. I just called him the other day from Medellin ... i meet some girls from Medellin that go to Cali for work and give them Ramon's nmbr to help set them up. Good guy ... just tell him exactly what you want ... he's got the full range from nice girls to pay for fun type.
Also, I'm going to hit Cali first on my way back down to Medellin in a couple weeks ... would love to hook up for a cerveza and share notes if you're around ... especially Anti freeze since you're a resident. Chaou