Great info GLADIATOR !!
Thanks for taking the time to write it.
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Great info GLADIATOR !!
Thanks for taking the time to write it.
I wish I had read the advice about the Rodina before - pushy, overpriced, aggressive hustling by the girls. However, I did end up with Amanda and this was the second best WG ever. No clock watching (ignored the alarm on the mobile to carry on) and game for anything I wanted. But very expensive at the bar (ladies drinks etc) and hourly rate way too high.
Go to a gladiator recommended flat or the Velvet bar.
GLADIATOR great report. The prices for sex seem reasonable but the prices for drinks at the clubs seem like a total rip off (30 Leva at the Velvet). I do have afew queations
1) I wonder about the GLADIATOR !! I wonder about the enthusiasm of the women ?? did it seem too mechanical or did they great seem to have a good time. I ask this because nothing puts a damper on things more a chick who looks bored or not into it.
2) Did you have to pay in advance or could you pay afterwards, as I always prefer to do.
3) Any chance of the "Flat girls" could meet to privately back at you flat saving you the expense of a middleman.
4) Do the women insist on condomes ??
First of all let me clarify that my Sofia trip lasted 5 days, in which I had five 1-hour sessions and one 6-hour session, with 5 different chicks in total (I repeated on one occasion with one of the girls). Considering the size of the Sofia meat market I think it'd be necessary to spend there at least 1 month to get a thorough knowledge of the scene, 5 days are not enough to become an expert; it just laid the groundwork for future expeditions and gave me an initial idea of what to expect in this city.
In reply to your questions:
1. Out of my 5 samples, one of them was plain rude and absolutely mechanical, another one was ok, but still a bit mechanical, and the other 3 were fine: enthusiastic and eager to please. I guess that finding non-mechanical providers in Sofia is a hit or miss, regardless of whether you pick them up from clubs or flats.
2. I also like to pay in arrears whenever possible during my sex trips, but from what I saw there's no way you can do that in Sofia: advance payment was always required, and this was a non-negotiable condition. In the clubs you pay before leaving and in the flats you have to pay to the guys too before taking the chick with you.
The greatest risk of advance payment in Sofia is that the chick may have a bitchy attitude, and you may find it out once in your room (too late), so there's nothing you can do, just fuck her hard during one hour and tell her to get lost when you finish, it's what I did with the rude one. When they behave like hos, we must treat them like hos.
In countries where arrear payments are the norm, when a chick turns out to be bitchy once in my room I kick her out straightaway with no money, but that's not possible in Sofia as you always pay in advance.
3. I tried that with 2 girls: one of them refused to do it and the other one was willing to meet me in her 'own time' -but I finally didn't call her. I suppose it's also hit and miss, and it'll depend on how much the girl likes you, how busy she is during the day or how desperate she is for money.
4. They always insist on condoms for intercourse (and so do I), some of them didn't even want to use my condoms (durex) but only their own ones -their condoms were also fine so it made no difference to me. The bad news is that they also insist on condoms for BJ, they don't usually give BBBJ -only one out of my 5 chicks accepted to do a BBBJ, a perfect one by the way, ending with CIM.
I had a great time, anyway, I enjoyed much more than I usually do when I go to Amsterdam, for instance. And I spent a lot less money...
Gladiator, Downunder,
I just want to remind you of my previous report of Sofia. I had just one only experience, but somewhat different to Gladiator's. Maybe it was a lucky chance, but in "diamant" massage parlour it was very nice: They charge 30 lv per hour, and I paid afterwards. Great 90 Minutes, ending with a BBBJ. A girl with great passion. I paid her 50 lv and she seemed to be happy about that. I regret very much that I had to rush to the airport.
I will be in Sofia in June, so I will try again and submit a report then.
30 leva per hour is really good value, that's even cheaper than the flat girls. Was the chick cute? Was there only one girl or several ones to choose from?
I saw your post when I did my preliminary research before travelling, but the problem with that website you mentioned is that it's in Bulgarian, so I didn't understand a shit.
It'd be great if you could find out in your next trip the exact days and times when they are open, or if there are more low-cost massage parlours like that (I'm sure there are).
I was in Sofia about two weeks ago and checked out the Velvet Club and the Private flats scene. Thanks for the advice Gladiator!!!!! There were some pretty hot girls in the Velvet club but the prices put me off (Ý am too used to South East Asian prices!!!). The Flats were good but make sure you turn up before 9:30pm, when you go to the building just press the call button marked with a red light, they will buzz you in and meet you outside the door, just go in and take your pýck!!!!! Ý had no problems, Ý only had two girls, the first one had a pretty bad attitude but Ý did not have much to choose from at 10pm on a Tuesday night!!!!! The second time Ý turned up earlier and found a 21 year old blond who was very good.
Definitely the easiest and safest way to pickup in Sofia. Great report Gladiator.
Reptile.
Recently returned from Sofia and here is my report about flats (or „Massage Parlours“), in which even cheaper prices than in the flats described earlier are achievable. In these flats the following prices are standard:
one hour „massage“ (with HJ or BJ at the end) 30 lv
one hour „standard sex“ 40 lv
one hour „nonstandard sex“ (anal, BBBJ) 60 lv
for half hour reduce by 10 lv
The girls there are not the cutest ones (3 to 7) but usually nice, and I had a choice of max. three girls. In every of the locations I tested (I called three and went to all these three) I found at least one girl who spoke enough English to make a deal, so that should be no problem. And if you find no English speaking girl on the phone, call the next one. Some of them are open non-stop, 0-24, some from 10-22. They are usually not very easy to find.
In my previous web research I found two those flats called „clubs“ and four of those called „massage parlours“. It turned out that there is not much difference. In the „clubs“ they do not offer massage, but they always offer these „nonstandard“ things. In the „massage parlours“ they say that they do not offer BBBJ, but finally I got one in all two tested locations of this type.
All the „clubs“ and „massage parlours“ are normal flats in standard Sofia town houses, not very high level.
Here are some more details:
First I went to one of the „clubs“ in 11 August street – about 3 afternoon. When I finally had found it (I had to call twice to find the right entrance) a woman came down to the door, unlocked it and let me in. She was about 45 and definetely NOT cute. She said there were three girls, but the others occupied. I decided to try with the woman who opened because in my experience the quality of sex has nothing to do with the appearance. We agreed on one hour with BBBJ for 60 lv, which I had to pay in advance. She immediatly started with the BBBJ in a quite intensive way. As I was hot I asked her to slow down, but it was not very successful. She offered me intercourse without condom, which I refused. After all I came 5 min after the start. After a cigarette she continued with a second BBBJ but to finish I preferred to fuck her (with condom). To resume, she was too mechanical, although the blowjobs were good. After 35 min I had enough and went out.
The second location I visited was a „massage parlour“ in the quarter Losenez – it was about midnight. On the telephone call before there was a spanish girl (I cannot speak spanish). She could neither German nor English nor French nor Italian. Even my little Bulgarian she did not understand. As last she called another girl, who spoke good English and explained me the way. When I appeared all girls were called (three) and I chose a young Bulgarian chick – the spanish girl was not there, maybe occupied. The English speaking girl made the deal and told me BBBJ were absolutely not possible. So we agreed on one hour massage with BJ with condom for 30 lv (pament in advance). The girl I chose – her name was Maja – turned out to be very keen, she did a very good massage, first quite medical, then going more and more erotic. When it came to the BJ I asked her if she would do it without condom for some more money and she agreed. This question was not easy because the only language she knew was Bulgarian. After all she did a very good BBBJ with CIM. I paid her extra 20 lv.
The last massage palour was the one in Makedonia street I visited six month ago. I was there around midday. Again the girl on the entrance told me BBBJ were not possible, but I found the same girl I had last time (Sunny or Janine), and she did it of course a BBBJ like last time. This time I paid afterwards.
The data, first the „clubs“:
The one I visited: 11 August street (Bulgarian: Uliza edinaisti avgust) No 10, Apartment 1. It is in the first building (located directly on the street), but to find the entrance you must enter the yard. Ring on the downmost bell. This flat is very near to Alexander Nevski Cathedral in the center.
Open 24 hours a day. Tel. 989 40 84.
The other: Boulevard Slivniza No 146, Entrance B, first floor, Apartment 1.
Open 24 hours. Tel. 832 41 91
The „massage parlours“:
The first I visited – where I found Maja - is quite far from the center, you have to take a taxi: 10-20 Minutes from the center, depending on the traffic, and 3 – 4 lv a ride.
Quarter „Losenez“, Boulevard Cherni Vrh (the second word is not pronouncable in English, it sounds like if you would say „wruch“ in German), no street Number, Block 15-22, Entrance 3 (the cyrillic letter for „Z“ looks like a number three), third floor, Apartment 122. Tell the taxi driver this is after the supermarket or let him telephone with them. My taxi driver brought me with his car directly to the entrance.
Open 24 hours. Tel. 862 61 21
The second I visited, where I found Janine: Boulevard Makedonia No. 6, second floor, Apartment 10.
Open from 10 to 22. Tel. 952 49 18
The third: Boulevard Alexander Stamboliiski No. 108, first floor, Apartment 2.
Open 24 hours, Tel. 920 18 56
The fourth: Uliza Cherkovka No. 105A, first floor, Apartment 3.
Open from 10 to 22, Tel. 846 85 69.
All in all I felt safe all the time, the people in the flats were always polite and correct (I always got the change when I paid with a bigger note), and concerning the prices they make absolutely no difference between Bulgarians and foreigners. The always charged the price which was was published on Bulgarian websites and did not even try to get more from me silly western foreigner. The Bulgarian people are very friendly, and many of them especially younger people understand English.
And the costs for eating and drinking are 20% compared to western Europe.
Currency: 1 euro = 1,95 lv (exchange rate fixed)
At last some useful vocabulary if you are alone with a girl who speaks only Bulgarian:
French – frenski
BBBJ – frenski bez preservatif
with condom – sus preservatif
yes – da
no – ne
And if they shake their head that looks like „no“: this means YES in Bulgaria! So be careful with those gestures.
Hope all these informations is useful for you, and good hunt!
GL
WOW, glenlivet, what a fantastic report. Very informative, indeed. Thanks a million!
glenlivet thanks for the great report. Any chance you know any websites that have pic's of the Bulgarian girls, I wonder if they are hot as Russians ??
Well, it is not easy to find web ressources for Bulgaria. The MPs I reported were from the web site www.diamant.hit.bg, but there are no pictures, and it is only in Bulgarian.
Another web site I could find is www.bglove.com: If you choose "Katalog" at the left side and then "Momicheta" (=girls) there are some available ladies with pictures, telephone numbers, e-mail addresses and some even with their prices.
But without being able to read cyrillic and Bulgarian it is hard to get information from this site.
If you are already in BG you can buy the daily paper "noshten trud" where lots of agencies and girls are listed.
A remark to prices: I think one should not pay more than 60 lv for an hour. All prices above this level seem to me tourist prices, where no better quality is guaranteed.
I would appreciate some further reports from Sofia!
GL
I staid in a private appartment in Sofia: Dimitar Altanov GSM 0887 303 143. 20 Euro/night. Very nice private accomodation in the center not far from the Prince Hotel.
When I staid in Sofia I walked along the boulevard, near the Prince Hotel. Two girls proposed to have sex in a hotel nearby. But I asked if they could join me to my room, which they did for 60 euro.
One young long black curreled hair and one blond girl who spoke english.
In my room the blond girl began to BBBJ while the other took a shower. I loved the dark girl which was very active and very nice. The blond girl wasn't very active and a waste of money.
I will be at the Hilton Hotel in September, does anyone have any advise for me to completely enjoy Sofia?
If there any special places for a great FS massage or outcall/incall or just certain places to go that are safe for an American who doesn't speak the language let me know.
Thanks!
I'm still waiting for updated advice. Come on you guys I will be there Saturday! I of course will contribute whatever I learn for the benefit of all and check my report on Mexicali Mexico for an example of how thorough my information can be.
I will also be posting to various Turkey cities when I get back.
Rico Cafe,
I think everyone of the contributors of the Sofia board has published all his experiences. So just read the board carefully and then check out some of the hints.
Many people in Sofia speak English (at least a little), so communication should not be a problem. And if a girl does not, join the next. As I mentioned in my reports, Sofia is a safe city. All the usual prices are published here, watch out not to get overpriced service.
If you are an adventurer, check out some of the flats or SWs, if not, check one of the clubs.
Do not change money at the airport (or only a small amount for the taxi), you`ll get 15% more for your money in the exchange offices in the center. Taxi from airport to the center should be around 10 lv (about $6) or slightly less.
Looking forward to your report!
GL