[blue]Please use this thread to voice your opinions regarding the new Subscription Membership Option.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
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[blue]Please use this thread to voice your opinions regarding the new Subscription Membership Option.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
Jackson,
I'm not clear if I understood your policy regarding Senior members: A Senior member will have complementary (free) subscription for life with access to PMs and Photo Galleries?
Thanks for all the hard work and I completely understand your need to start charging for the service.
juicer
[blue]Hi Juice Spike,
I had to be careful with my wording there. The Senior Members will continue to enjoy all the features that they currently have, without charge, including the ability to download the photos and the PM system. However, they would need to purchase a subscription if they wanted to access to the NEW features such as the Photo Gallery browser or the alternate "Stealth Mode" view. That's why I didn't use the words "complementary subscription".
Remember, we're only talking $10 dollars.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
Jackson,
Thanks. It makes sense. 10 bucks its a good deal despite all the hard work we "Senior" members do reporting. BTW, nice business move for you ....:)
juice
Jackson,
Let me start by saying that you have managed to create a uniquely useful and pleasant forum. I have not been here for long, but whenever I’ve asked for advice I’ve always had good, polite, feedback (even to my naive questions). It’s so much better than some of the competitors that I could name. The strength of the forum is the membership base, and the rules that you have had in place have given them an incentive to behave sensibly. Because it is a pleasant place, the members stay, and contribute.
I hope that the changes do not lead to any degradation of the membership base. Continuing the PM and Photo privileges of current Senior Members is a smart move, of course. But will there enough incentive for current Regular Members and Subscribers to contribute wisely? Of course, you could argue that Senior Members don’t have much incentive, but most of them seem to have been “trained” by the process, at least in my experience.
I have a few specific questions:
1. Will the current differentiation between Regular and Senior remain (posts from Regulars being moderated)?
2. Will Subscribers have to go through the same process, or will they be unmoderated immediately? If the latter, are there other incentives to induce Subscribers to make sensible contributions?
3. Would you consider giving PM and photo privileges to NEW Senior Members? This would provide an incentive to stick around and contribute to those who didn’t want to become Subscribers.
Anyway, congratulations again on an excellent Forum.
Little Wing
[blue]Hi Little Wing,
I can answer your first two questions like this:
As the Forum's software is currently written, reports are either displayed immediately OR placed in the Admin moderation queue, depending upon the setting for the poster's membership group.
I have paid to have developed a modification to the Forum's software that will allow all reports to be immediately displayed in the Forum and simultaneously listed in the Admin moderation queue. This would mean that everyone's reports would be visible immediately, but I would still have a systemized method for reviewing the reports and edit or delete the SPAM.
This software modification is being tested on the Argentina forum where it has performed perfectly, and thus I expect to install it here in the next several days. This new function will essentially eliminate the current distinction between the Regular and Senior Members.
Of course, I'm always reluctant to advertise upcoming software improvements because if, for one reason or another, the implementation is delayed, I find myself the receiptant of numerous emails complaining that I haven't made the improvement.
Regarding your 3rd question, as existing Regular Members who qualify for Senior membership are now automatically upgrade to Senior Membership, they will have the same privileges as existing Senior Members, including photo viewing and PM access.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
I find the idea disgusting.
Shame on you, Jack-O.
[blue]Hi Sam2004,
I'm somewhat surprised by your comments.
Would you care to elaborate?
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
Jackson,
Thanks for the quick reply. Your modified posting procedure sounds useful. I guess there will still be an incentive for people to be good, otherwise their posts will disappear. I think that you need to have some sort of stick or carrot, otherwise the forum will deteriorate.
[QUOTE=Jackson]
Regarding your 3rd question, as existing Regular Members who qualify for Senior membership are now automatically upgrade to Senior Membership, they will have the same privileges as existing Senior Members, including photo viewing and PM access.[/QUOTE]
I'm pleased to hear that. This will give exisiting Regular Members an incentive to stick around, keep posting, and turn into productive Senior Members. You might consider rewording the home page to reflect this.
Little Wing.
Hi Jackson, being a senior member, I am grateful to you for all the hard work, and that you are offering to grandfather senior members in, with all the benefits a pay membership offers, save a couple. I don't know if and how often I would use the 2 options which are only available to paying members, but in light of the fact I use this forum regularly, and do enjoy it, most of the time, save for a couple of miscreants, here's my $19.95. I just paid through Paypal.
Guys, time to step up. Jackson is asking for a little help, dig into your pockets. In probably over half the countries this forum reaches, he is asking for less than it costs for a cheap fuck. I have always found it astonishing this site was free. Considering the wealth of information availalbe to us, 20 bucks is one helluva bargain.
Keep up the good work, Jackson, and put the money to good use.
1ball
I think the amount of time and effort that Jackson has put into the site it is only fair that he get's a little back. I think he´s actually been pumping money into it for awhile, especially with the change of domain names and all the problems with the photo section earlier this year.
I think it´s very generous to let the Senior Members keep the same perks, and I hope that many will buy at least the 6 month membership to show their appreciation. I know that I´m going to do my part.
As someone who is always having to delete PM's (I keep important tips on them, and try to save the best ones for when I'm out mongering and need the info). If you could double the space for Super Duper Subscription members, it would be great.
Jackson:
1. As soon as I am back in civilization, $20 will be winging its way to you.
2. Please give more crystal clear details on how to pay via paypal, which I have never used. I ask this as, like many others, I want to keep my credit card details completely confidential. I think payment methods deserve a lot of space.
3. I am surprised you are still solvent, given the size etc of this site.
4. Maybe have a link on this page explaining what you are doing. I tend to skip the entry page and go to new reports immediately. I am sure others do the same. People say your front page is a newspaper format. If so, many of us like to go dorectly to the sports page.
[blue]Hi Domino,
PayPal is an online credit card processor. Your subscription purchase, including your standard credit card info and credit card number, is handled entirely by them. I never see any of this information.
Here's how it works:
1. You click on the "Order" button on the Forum's order page.
2. The button open a link directly to PayPal, transmitting only the specifics of your order, which is just a description (1 year Subscription) and the dollar amount ($19.95). This process [u]DOES NOT[/u] transmit your Username or any of your Forum membership information.
3. On the PayPal website you will see a summary of your order: A 1 year subscription for $19.95 paid to "WSG Charities".
4. You approve the purchase by selecting the "Approve" button, and on the next screen PayPal asks you for the usual credit card info including your credit card number.
5. You enter the info just like any other online credit card purchase, and then approve the charge.
6. The final screen is a summary of your purchase, with a "Finish" button.
7. When you click on the "Finish" button, PayPal sends you back to the ISG Forum.
8. In the background, PayPal also transmits an approval code back to the Forum, said approval code simply indicating that the purchase was approved, and the Forum software then activates your subscription.
I never know your credit card info, and PayPal doesn't know what member actually made the purchase. This information is completely seperate.
One final note: Your subscription is made in the name of "WSG Charities", which is the name on your credit card statement. If anyone is interested, a visit to the charity's website at [url]www.wsgcharities.com[/url] indicates that it is actually a charity that provides food for children in Argentina, which it actually does. Nowhere on the charity website is there any mention, connection or link to the Forum. Should you ever need to explain the charge to a third party, there's an easy explaintion: "A friend runs this charity and I decided to make a small donation". Simple.
Thanks for your interest,
Jackson[/blue]
I do not know about PayPal.
I do not use credit cards.
Can I pay by money order or cheque?
Jackson,
Let me first say Thank You ... for all you've put into this.
I'm more than OK to send funds to support the site. Maybe I haven't read things carefully enuf ... but how do Sr Members send something to you via Paypal without getting classed as new joiners?
Cheers,
NG99
[blue]Hi Nice Guy 99,
I appreciate your support, both in the forum and financially.
Purchasing a subscription will have no effect on your current membership status. What it will do is give you access to the additional features, in your case The Photo Gallery Viewer and the Banner-Free Stealth Mode.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
Jackson:
Kudos for going this long without having to get monetary support from the membership. I think your options for paying are terrific, however, paying with credit cards or PayPal is not an option for me because I need to continue to keep my actions from being discovered. Is it possible for you to accept payment with a money order? I've seen other sites accept money orders as payments for access to their websites. I can hide cash expenses but I can't hide the credit card or the PayPal transactions.
Thanks,
Chingoneus
Jackson:
1. I tried to pm this information to you. The six month suscription works out slightly cheaper on an annual basis than the annual subscription. Maybe you can fix it up to save future flames?
2. I have now read your blue ink below and will pay you in a few weeks time when I emerge from Mindanao.
3. I was told your admin pm account had exceeded its allowed capacity.
4. I imagine you will make a success out of all this in time. It has been very interesting to watch it grow into a viable business model.
[blue]Hi Domino,
You didn't see that the one year subscription includes 2 extra months, which means you pay $19.95 for 14 months.
The 1 year subscription averages out to $1.42 per month.
The 6 month subscription averages out to $1.65 per month.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
And I'm wearing glasses as I read:(
Jackson,
Here's my $10, thanks for grandfathering us in.
AZN Monger
Jackson: You have done something few others have managed to do; get $20 out of Domino.
Members: Paying up is straight forward once you have your credit card information in front of you. Follow Jackson's blue ink instructions on my earlier post by clicking Order. You are then given the option of returning to merchant (= Jackson) or signing up to paypal. I signed up to Paypal (straightforward) and was then given the option to return to merchant Jackson, which I did.
All in all, very straightforward and an excellent investment even though I would have paid more to ignore the self dick photos Juice Spike and others post:D Hopefully, we will be able to put a tiny dent in Jackson's massive expenses, legal included.