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[QUOTE=Turgid;2487415]I am an impartial observer in the vaccine debate. However, I have become aware of the strong criticism and vitriol that have been directed at anti-vaxxers. It seems that pro-vaxxers are very emotional about saving anti-vaxxers lives. Pro-vaxxers are very altruistic.[/QUOTE]In reality, it is very much self interest that drives all these brainwashed medical personnel to be so much into pro vaccinations.
Because what many vaccines does is to mess with our immune system. Activating it half way constantly due to these crippled viruses or bacterias the vaccines have. Crippled in a way that our immune system can never kill them off completely, while still trying. But is thus left with less juice when all other diseases later arrives. Thus bringing in more money to the medical industry and their corrupt business where they steal from nature and try and patent living organisms. Just by adding some minute unnecessary details.
It is the most draconic industry worldwide, and thus is to cover up their tracks more than any other industries worldwide. As is easily seen statistically in who the largest spenders on lobbying is.
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[URL]https://www.investopedia.com/investing/which-industry-spends-most-lobbying-antm-so/[/URL]#text=Over%20 the%20 past%2022%20 years, electronics%20 manufacturing%2 C%20 and%20 business%20 associations.
Well worth a read!
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[QUOTE=RockyV;2487511]Waste of time, mate! These people do not recognise scientific literature as a credible source of information. They prefer to listen to random blogs or youtube, such as David Icke's. He does not believe in the existence of covid-19, but he believes some of the world leaders (including the Queen) are actually lizards![/QUOTE]Yeah, you're right. Look at the posts. Dude never really cites anyone with credibility much less anything peer reviewed. What's even more sad is the constant obsession with American culture and politics. Like what's the connection between European measles rates to American healthcare profiteers? Someone has insignificant nation syndrome. On par though, dude messaged me to keep quiet about masks usefulness in clubs in fear of club owners enforcing mask requirements. Selfishness and disregard for the health of others, much like his stance on vaccination, complete disregard for other humans with a stance based on pure selfish intent. I suspect his views on vaccination just stems from a bed-wetting fear of needles. Pussy. Hah!
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2487523]In reality, it is very much self interest that drives all these brainwashed medical personnel to be so much into pro vaccinations.
Because what many vaccines does is to mess with our immune system. Activating it half way constantly due to these crippled viruses or bacterias the vaccines have. Crippled in a way that our immune system can never kill them off completely, while still trying. But is thus left with less juice when all other diseases later arrives. Thus bringing in more money to the medical industry and their corrupt business where they steal from nature and try and patent living organisms. Just by adding some minute unnecessary details.
It is the most draconic industry worldwide, and thus is to cover up their tracks more than any other industries worldwide. As is easily seen statistically in who the largest spenders on lobbying is.[/QUOTE]Wow, I'm in awe with your inspiring explanation of how vaccines work. I should have asked you instead of all those years spent studying science on all those 'brainwashing' medical books. You should definitely unleash this truth to the world because many governments and medics are still in the dark. My dear, the reason why many vaccines ARE made with inactivated viruses (this is actually a very old way of making vaccines and the inactivation process may not be always perfect, but for covid-19 they are not following this old procedure!) is that the immune system can produce antibodies against the virus without the need for the individual to develop the disease. What you describe as 'mess with your immune system" is called Immunological memory, which is the process by which we build protection in case we come into contact again with those viruses as we grow up.
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;2487616]As I have stated previously: to each their own. I fully respect the guys who say they will stay away whilst the virus is running wild in society. I have a slightly different viewpoint. I want to live my life to the full. I'm not prepared to put it on hold if I do not need to. And I consider I do not need to. So my big head rather than small head made this decision. There are other options if it was just small head. Escort one to one = easy. I didn't want that. I like to be amongst 60+ naked or near naked women. I'm glad FKKs are open.
C19 numbers are not going up (just or at all) because of FKKs. They go up when there is any form of social interaction. Teenagers have parties - 100's of people. Numbers increase. Are they more entitled to life their lives than me? If I choose to stay indoors to keep safe and my children in their early 20's come home and give me the virus is that fair? Shall we all just remain locked up for 5 years hoping it will go away? it will be there waiting for us!
The queues outside Artemis are there for a reason: there are a lot of people with the same mindset as me. Guys who want to live my life to the full whilst they have it - not knowing in these uncertain times how long that will be. In the unfortunate event I get the virus (for a second time. I had it in March 2020) in the next six months and die, I will forever be happy that I didn't waste my final days indoors frightened to go out and scared of my own shadow. Since the pandemic began I have been to 8 different countries. I have enjoyed every trip. More business than pleasure but happy to be travelling. There are many more illnesses killing far more people than this virus. We have become obsessed with it...[/QUOTE]You only live once! So you bravely did the right thing! If there is nobel prize monger award! You deserve it and it seems that you got what you paid for payforit because you paid for it both money and taking risk LOL!
Monger on monger!
However, I stick to masturbation hole and gel till pandemic is over LOL! I am glad I went to globe earlier this year to keep me calm for awhile because it is going to be long till I be in FKK land!
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[QUOTE=Samplerr;2487442]Unless you live on a desert island, how can you not have a dog in this fight?[/QUOTE]Because unlike most posters here I'm just not sure. The last time I took a vaccine was in the mid nineties when they came to my workplace. I can't recall what it was for. I experienced a difference physically but I really cannot say 100% that it was because of the vaccine. I won't go into the difference here. It was not a good difference. I do not trust people in power which is why I am somewhat skeptical in the first place.
Russia is testing an anti-covid 19 vaccine; will they deliberately introduce something pernicious into their population? I doubt that. Will China do that? Again highly doubtful. These countries want to dominate the world. Will the UK or Europe do that? Unlikely. Will India or Cuba harm their people? Not likely. What about the US? Now a country shipping vaccines to another country; say the US to Latin America or Africa. That's another story.
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Thanks for your response. Being skeptical is okay, me too. A more or less packed Club is one of the highest "risks" someone could take at the moment. But nobody has to.
Show me also one human who didn't violated the "Corona rules" within the last 7 month at least once. Social distancing is not humans nature, ask a doctor.
Don't let the "system homies" dictate the life of "party terrorists"!
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2487460]...German testing been good for many many months so argument that uptick in numbers "due to testing" not true. ..Last words on subject.[/QUOTE]Here I hold ground. The source "Wikipedia" (they're taking numbers from RKI).
For example, Week number 20 (7th to 14th of may 2020) (whole Germany).
Number of tests: 432.666.
Number of positive results: 7. 233.
Positive rate: 1. 7%.
Week number 38 (14th to 20th of September 2020).
Number of tests: 1. 085.518.
Number of positive results: 12.917.
Positive rate: 1. 2%.
There you go. More tests, more positive results, but a lower positive rate and also way less deadly sick people in hospitals.
A nation wide catastrophe? Restrictions to protect the health, to protect hospitals from collapsing, to protect the tracing scouts from getting overworked? No, no and again, no.
The reasons and explanations of government why they put restrictions on basic rights are weak, one sided, not to accept.
Other countries have stricter rules and higher numbers. Bad boys say: "The stricter the rules, the higher the numbers".
I promise Ninji, I try to continue protecting your life. But I am human, sometimes it goes into the pants.
[QUOTE]..The form filling is a bit of a joke.[/QUOTE]No, it is not. Arrogant government who believes they can trace a virus and made this form filling a strict rule is a joke. But don't laugh out loud inside, infection protection is the religion everyone has to follow to stay in the "larger group".
No love for war talk.
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NRW clubs, Risk Areas
According to French forums, at the Living Room raid on September 17th, the authorities also controlled the male guests. The authorities photographed the identity documents of the male guests, ostensibly, to verify that their contact details matched the registration paperwork they filled out when paying entry at front desk. I assume that any Dutch, Belgian, and French guests from risk areas are probably going to have some explaining to do, if they are caught in a control.
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I don't know for the other countries but for sure in France there will be no use of those data's. The police, the authorities are so weak, this country is just going down so fast in the last decades, so many uncontrolled areas, dealers.
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The thing is, your actual address doesn't have to be written on your ID card in France. Same for the driving license.
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;2487800]According to French forums, at the Living Room raid on September 17th, the authorities also controlled the male guests. The authorities photographed the identity documents of the male guests, ostensibly, to verify that their contact details matched the registration paperwork they filled out when paying entry at front desk. I assume that any Dutch, Belgian, and French guests from risk areas are probably going to have some explaining to do, if they are caught in a control.[/QUOTE]Also reported on NL forum, with administration taking photos of ID. Thursday and Friday are riskiest days for controls, when LR is not welcome in Kaarst.
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;2487800]According to French forums, at the Living Room raid on September 17th, the authorities also controlled the male guests. The authorities photographed the identity documents of the male guests, ostensibly, to verify that their contact details matched the registration paperwork they filled out when paying entry at front desk. I assume that any Dutch, Belgian, and French guests from risk areas are probably going to have some explaining to do, if they are caught in a control.[/QUOTE]So I understand, there was a control at LR again since it opened? Are any other clubs experiencing this or is it the Kaarst Phenomenon again, where LR is unusually frequently controlled?
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[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2487857]I don't know for the other countries but for sure in France there will be no use of those data's. The police, the authorities are so weak, this country is just going down so fast in the last decades, so many uncontrolled areas, dealers.[/QUOTE]Where do you live in France? So many Germans, UK, NL, Belgium, come to live in France, for a better quality of life than at home. Of course, if you go like a tourist in Marseille north suburb, or grande borne Grigny, but weren't women raped in Koln few years ago?
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It is always the same story, when the reality is not the one we want the reality doesn't exist, I can name you in each big city in France places where for sure you will not go at night: Nimes, Grenoble, Strasbourg, Perpignan, Muhlouse. The only data's that you can trust in France are the number of homicide because they are coming from the Etat Civil, all the other data are manipulated by the politicians in order to explain to the French people that the criminality is under control.
2109: highest number of homicides ever. And all the specialists are saying that 2020 will be a lot worse.
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[QUOTE=DioRetz;2487330]I have wondered at several of your contributions in the past. It seemed so different from my own experience. Now I got a clue why that is so. Thanks so much for this info.[/QUOTE]LOL same here explains alot.