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[QUOTE=MJG Dogs]Take a late night stroll in Parque Morazon and you will see plenty of she-males.
Also if you get mugged in San jose do not expect to get any help from the policia, let alone the people in the streets. They deep down Resent us and despise us. That is my opinion based on living and working in Cr for about a year and visiting CR 12 times in the past. Live there for a while, and you will understand the resentment. They love our money..., not us....
Member # 3881 has a right to speak and in most cases I agree with him. The Pink Palace( Del Rey) is a hit or miss. Sometimes good, sometimes not so good.
Braves #41 also has a right to voice his opinion
Jesus, what started off as parody, about san jose's infrastructure, sure hit a few nerves..Lighten up.[/QUOTE]
Yes, there are she-males in San Jose, too, but Rio is kind of known to be a shemale mecca. I was just saying, if you go there, be careful, that's all: a word of caution, no big deal.
Actually I HAVE lived in CR for about a year, and visited about 10 times, myself, so I do know what I'm talking about. Maybe it depends on the attitude you put out. I have always had very positive experiences there, even with pros. And most of the people there have been very helpful and kind to me.
But yes, there is a growing resentment of gringos buying their land and "perverting" their culture and causing some inflation. On the other hand, there are many Ticos who realize we bring lots of work and thus money to them, and improve their lives by doing so. It's a double-edged sword.
I agree that #3881 and #41 and you have the right to speak. I don't think anyone is questioning that. But if you come on a board of mostly FANS of San Jose's women, and post that the women there are not attractive, etc., you should expect to find some people objecting to those statements, and voicing THEIR differing opinions. I voiced mine.
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[QUOTE=Member #3831]Yes, I did find some ok looking girls at 6-7 but did you find any 9's like other deceiving mongers claim? You sound like you've traveled extensively but I'm curious as to why you still haven't figured out how to compare and rate girls.[/QUOTE]I do know how to travel and rate girls. From my experience in CR, I had a much better time with girls who spoke no english.They were not hardened pros. The european women look more like north Americans. In russia , you can arrange at least several hours for $50.00 not in CR. As far as looks I would have to say Russians 8-9, Costa Ricans 6-8. As far as performance Russians 8-9, Costa Ricans 6-8 (although I had some good sessions).
Why do I think Costa Rica is a better deal? A hell of a lot cheaper to fly down there for 5 days. Spanish is much easier to learn than Russian. Its alot cheaper to stay in CR than eastern europe. Can't comment on the safety although I was able to walk anywhere in a city of 8 million people at night with no problem. would not do that in San Jose.
for those who wanna bad mouth Costa Rica. go somewhere else. let each traveler experience his own. I had a great time and will go back again. I do like being abroad, I do like the local cultures and learning the local languages, and interacting with local people. I do not travel abroad to be around a bunch of Americans (although it is fun to hang out with one at night).
I have seen alot of people on this board bad mouth san jose and CR. True san jose is somewhat dirty and seedy in places. Its central america what did you expect. Go and experience it. do a little research first . most of you will have a good time.
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Nice words Barefoot67
Nice words Barefoot67!
Couldnt agree more, dont know if some of your last post was aimed at me?
I was in SJ well must be near 6 years ago now, and found the quality of chicas exceptional. There was 1 club sorry dont remember the name, but the quality was awsome, young, freshish!!, and not the prices ive seen here. You could take them to the side of the dance floor and they'd do a strip for you, a little extra and they'd take you to a seperate room for an hour+!! I'll look back through my starlog and see if i can find the name of the joint. Had a great time in Jkta before n/year so off there to post. Happy new year y'all.
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My condolences to those mongers who weren't able to find a decent-looking woman to spend some time with and thus concluded San Jose is a lousy mongering destination. It sure ain't Rio or Buenos Aires or Bangkok, but you can have a hell of a good time there with some very attractive ladies. I'm attaching a couple of photos I did not take of two Kamur ladies I enjoyed multiple sessions with. Yes, I paid too much by CR standards and Club Kamur is no longer one of my favorite destinations, but Roxana and Sabrina rank pretty high on my all-time "favorites" list, compiled from visits to a number of international destinations.
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[QUOTE=Mr Jetsetter]My condolences to those mongers who weren't able to find a decent-looking woman to spend some time with and thus concluded San Jose is a lousy mongering destination. It sure ain't Rio or Buenos Aires or Bangkok, but you can have a hell of a good time there with some very attractive ladies. I'm attaching a couple of photos I did not take of two Kamur ladies I enjoyed multiple sessions with. Yes, I paid too much by CR standards and Club Kamur is no longer one of my favorite destinations, but Roxana and Sabrina rank pretty high on my all-time "favorites" list, compiled from visits to a number of international destinations.[/QUOTE]Terrible looking girls. I would give Roxana a 7.5 and Sabrina is only a 5.5. Even with the help of photoshop software touch, they still don't look that good and I'm sure they look worse when you see them in person.
My condolences to those mongers who found those ugly looking girls pretty hot and thus concluded SJ is a fantastic mongering destiantion.
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Member #3831,
Please bless us ignorant souls with some actual photos of at least one of the hot women you have dallied with, so that we may all learn to adjust our rating system to more closely conform to your unimpeachable standards of beauty.
By the way, both Roxana and Sabrina actually looked better in person, especially Sabrina, who is actually not at all photogenic.
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[quote=member #3831]terrible looking girls. i would give roxana a 7.5 and sabrina is only a 5.5. even with the help of photoshop software touch, they still don't look that good and i'm sure they look worse when you see them in person.
my condolences to those mongers who found those ugly looking girls pretty hot and thus concluded sj is a fantastic mongering destiantion.[/quote]i'd normally be the first one to say any has a right to express their own opinion. i'm also willing to admit there is at least a small bit of validity in some of the negative opinions of cr expressed recently. some guys do vastly over-rate cr (note: that in no way means that the exact opposite of what they say is true). the place is not perfect. some other places are better in some ways. the hdr does have a fair share of bow-wows and those that aren't total bow-wows (and even many of the bow-wows) are often hardened non-gfe types.
that said, cr has those other places beat in other ways. no place is perfect, not cr, not rio, not cartagena nor anywhere else. what's best for one person with their circumstances, preferences and priorities may not be best for the next guy with a different set of preferences. and to totally trash a place because it didn't satisfy one's own personal standards is at least as ridiculous as other guys blindly over-rating that place. it might be a different story if we were talking about some place that the vast majority of people would agree was a complete shithole, like port au prince haiti (i've been there more times than i care to remember and believe me you don't want to go there). but, with so many people raving about cr, it must at least have something going for it.
the hdr also has plenty of chicas that most rational guys would rate at least a 7 and not all of them are hard cases. besides, any cr vet will tell you that the hdr is not the only or even the best place to do your hunting in cr. and, imho, any who can't find at least an acceptable looking girl with a decent attitude in cr, either: a) has ridiculously high standards that probably couldn't be met anywhere, b) did not know what they were doing and just picked out the wrong girls or restricted themselves to the more common places that are frequented by other ignorant newbies and the chicas that have learned how to prey on those type guys or c) was just unlucky in their first short visit and should go back to learn what they did wrong before drawing any hasty conclusions. in the first case, they've got a problem of their own making, but in the latter two cases, without any patronizing or condescension, they deserve our sincere condolences for what they missed out on. and i'm sure that's the way jetsetter meant it. it should also be pointed out that its not like js is one of those guys who fail to acknowledge where other places surpass cr.
but lets look a little closer at 3831. [quote=member #3831]you sound like you've traveled extensively but i'm curious as to why you still haven't figured out how to compare and rate girls.[/quote] he questions the judgement of a guy who, unlike him, has actually been around enough places to actually make informed evaluations. in fact, he seems to be questioning everyone's judgement but his own. he's virtually alone in his judgement and yet he's convinced that it is all the rest of us with distorted standards. that doesn't make much sense to me.[quote=member #3831]my condolences to those mongers who found those ugly looking girls pretty hot and thus concluded sj is a fantastic mongering destiantion.[/quote][quote=member #3831]i couldn't degrade myself to fuck these ok looking girls. (you know, all the ones that all the rest of us seem to have no problem degrading ourselves with)[/quote]unlike js, who was sorry that he couldn't seem to find the thing that all the rest of us can, or being happy for us that, in his view, we can so be so easily pleased and leaving it at that, he makes yet another in a series of comments condescending comments.
who is this guy? aside from one post in the turkey photo section commenting on someone else's photo submission, he has posted only here in the cr section. once before his trip asking a generic question that belied his ignorance and this more recent series of posts bitching about his experiences and insulting anyone else that manages to have a good time down there. if he said he'd never return to cr, why does he keep coming back to this forum to make these inflammatory posts that will never convince anyone around here that it is anything more than sour grapes or one isolated and fucked up viewpoint. if he thinks he can find girls that are so much better looking than the ones that can be found in cr (and i'm not talking about highpriced american callgirls, non-gfe types or pics of girls he's never really been with that were swiped from other guy's posts). its easy to throw stones, but not so easy to come up with something better.
expressing a contrary opinion is fine, but this guy is starting to look more and more like a troll.
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As Jaimito Cartero so eloquently said in his 12/31/05 post:
The whole "My favorite mongering place is great, while yours is shit" is just a waste of time for everyone involved. There are good and bad things about everywhere. Concentrate on finding the good stuff, share with all the fellow mongers, and everyone (except for the chicas with crappy service) prosper.[/QUOTE]
Everyone is entitled to their opinions, however negative they may be. But these opinions can easily be given in a way that is sensitive to this audience and doesn't blatantly imply that ISG members are ignorant for enjoying their sojourns to San Jose, or that they essentially don't have good taste in women. I commend Chase Star for his recent summaries of the pros and cons of San Jose and CR, and the recent drift of the comments on this board.
Over the last 30 years, I have been lucky enough to have done quite a bit of travelling and have mongered in a number of places around the world: e.g., Prague, Amsterdam, Buenos Aires, Curacao, Indonesia. I never went to any of these places just to monger. I went to Prague because it is a stunningly beautiful city with awesome architecture and awesome beer halls. I went to Amsterdam to sample the coffee shops and ambience btween visits to some private apartments. I went to Curacao (five times) to scuba dive by day and monger by night at the fabulous Campo Alegre. I went to Indonesia to dive and trek. My point is that I like to go to places that have multiple things to offer, and I STRONGLY feel that San Jose meets this key criterion. I had an absolute blast during my two trips last year, indulging in such delightful activities as rafting the Pacuare, playing Texas Hold-em at the Horseshoe, smoking a Cuban at Zona Blue after getting it on with two honies in the big room with the big bed, soaking up the fabulous atmosphere at the Sportsmen's Lodge, walking the half-block to Cafe Mundo for a GREAT meal on one of their two patios, taking an overnight trip to the beautiful beaches a few kilometers south of Jaco, people-watching at the Blue Marlin.
Armed with the proper attitude and a little knowledge of the local scene, I don't see how anyone could not have a great time in this area. Frankly, this is why I find the harsh negativity in some of these recent posts somewhat mindboggling!
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[QUOTE=Member #3831]Terrible looking girls. I would give Roxana a 7.5 and Sabrina is only a 5.5. Even with the help of photoshop software touch, they still don't look that good and I'm sure they look worse when you see them in person.
My condolences to those mongers who found those ugly looking girls pretty hot and thus concluded SJ is a fantastic mongering destiantion.[/QUOTE]
Meet Roxana and Sabrina in person before you rate them........Those numbers 7.5 and 5.5 are very low, some ladies the camera is just not good to.......
I would rate Roxana a 9 and Sabrina a 7.5 personally.......
I am also a very experienced monger as I have visited Amsterdam, CR and South America in my travellings over the past decade....
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[QUOTE=Mr Jetsetter]My point is that I like to go to places that have multiple things to offer [/QUOTE]I agree with you 100% and the sad fact is that San Jose doesn't meet this key criterion. There's absolutely nothing to do in San Jose and people who have visited there unanimously say San Jose doesn't have one unique thing that other places don't offer. You'll find the same McDonalds, KFC, grocery stores, and shoe shops that you would normally find in any other cities around the world.
[QUOTE=Mr Jetsetter]I had an absolute blast during my two trips last year, indulging in such delightful activities as rafting, smoking a Cuban at Zona Blue, soaking up the fabulous atmosphere at the Sportsmen's Lodge, walking the half-block to Cafe Mundo for a GREAT meal on one of their two patios, people-watching at the Blue Marlin.[/QUOTE]Rafting in San Jose? Were you rafting in the hotel swimming pool? I don't think you were smoking a Cuban at Zona Blue. You were smoking something strong!!!
Why would anyone want to spend hundreds of dollars to fly to San Jose to smoke a Cuban cigar and eat some meal on a patio? You can literally do the same stuff in the states without having to spend a whopping $1000 on flight tickets + hotel.
Costa Ricans are very friendly but as you just pointed out, San Jose is not a good mongering destination as they don't offer any unique things and most importantly the girls are too far from attractive.
I rest my case.
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[quote=chase star]i'd normally be the first one to say any has a right to express their own opinion. i'm also willing to admit there is at least a small bit of validity in some of the negative opinions of cr expressed recently. some guys do vastly over-rate cr (note: that in no way means that the exact opposite of what they say is true). the place is not perfect. some other places are better in some ways. the hdr does have a fair share of bow-wows and those that aren't total bow-wows (and even many of the bow-wows) are often hardened non-gfe types.
that said, cr has those other places beat in other ways. no place is perfect, not cr, not rio, not cartagena nor anywhere else. what's best for one person with their circumstances, preferences and priorities may not be best for the next guy with a different set of preferences. and to totally trash a place because it didn't satisfy one's own personal standards is at least as ridiculous as other guys blindly over-rating that place. it might be a different story if we were talking about some place that the vast majority of people would agree was a complete shithole, like port au prince haiti (i've been there more times than i care to remember and believe me you don't want to go there). but, with so many people raving about cr, it must at least have something going for it.
the hdr also has plenty of chicas that most rational guys would rate at least a 7 and not all of them are hard cases. besides, any cr vet will tell you that the hdr is not the only or even the best place to do your hunting in cr. and, imho, any who can't find at least an acceptable looking girl with a decent attitude in cr, either: a) has ridiculously high standards that probably couldn't be met anywhere, b) did not know what they were doing and just picked out the wrong girls or restricted themselves to the more common places that are frequented by other ignorant newbies and the chicas that have learned how to prey on those type guys or c) was just unlucky in their first short visit and should go back to learn what they did wrong before drawing any hasty conclusions. in the first case, they've got a problem of their own making, but in the latter two cases, without any patronizing or condescension, they deserve our sincere condolences for what they missed out on. and i'm sure that's the way jetsetter meant it. it should also be pointed out that its not like js is one of those guys who fail to acknowledge where other places surpass cr.
but lets look a little closer at 3831. he questions the judgement of a guy who, unlike him, has actually been around enough places to actually make informed evaluations. in fact, he seems to be questioning everyone's judgement but his own. he's virtually alone in his judgement and yet he's convinced that it is all the rest of us with distorted standards. that doesn't make much sense to me.unlike js, who was sorry that he couldn't seem to find the thing that all the rest of us can, or being happy for us that, in his view, we can so be so easily pleased and leaving it at that, he makes yet another in a series of comments condescending comments.
who is this guy? aside from one post in the turkey photo section commenting on someone else's photo submission, he has posted only here in the cr section. once before his trip asking a generic question that belied his ignorance and this more recent series of posts bitching about his experiences and insulting anyone else that manages to have a good time down there. if he said he'd never return to cr, why does he keep coming back to this forum to make these inflammatory posts that will never convince anyone around here that it is anything more than sour grapes or one isolated and fucked up viewpoint. if he thinks he can find girls that are so much better looking than the ones that can be found in cr (and i'm not talking about highpriced american callgirls, non-gfe types or pics of girls he's never really been with that were swiped from other guy's posts). its easy to throw stones, but not so easy to come up with something better.
expressing a contrary opinion is fine, but this guy is starting to look more and more like a troll.[/quote]
i agree, # 3881 has a right to express his opinion, in the case he is a little harsh, one girl is a 7 , i like the one with the pigtails better, give her a 7.875
well stated post, even though i do not agree with some of the opinions of the pro-san jose crowd. smoking a cuban, playing cards, with some annoying chica hanging on your shoulder, wanting you to buy them a drink or leave with them( your playing cards dammit, concentrate on winning) and hanging out with a bunch of gringos at the pink palace gets boring, except in football season, ( especially jan 3, 2005- usc 55 oklahoma 19, you could hear a pin drop in parts of the dr) when one can go to the colonial and relax and watch five games at once . i need diversion, and warm weather and clean air and the ocean and much more laid back chicas, thus i have a perference for cartagena.
in my opinion the biggest negative i have against the pink palace, is the hardened attitudes of the chicas. there are some nice gems to be found, but man the night crew in the dr, are too hardcore, the colombiana cartel also has scared off some of the newer girls. afternoons in the pink palace, in my opinion are much better. key largo is better in my opinion for finding nicer chicas at night
i think what happens is that most first time mongers go to the dr, at night, fall prey to the mafiosa in there, and pay too much, for mediocre or bad service, and then on top of that , to be constantly hassled by the beggars, con-man, oscar ( hey man need anything), and all of that bullshit, can leave a bad taste in one's mouth. newbies get ripped off by the mafiosa, i mean $ 100 for one pop, shame on the chica the first time, shame on the monger the second time, $50-60 in my opinion is enough, also stupid newbie pays for taxi for chica.. after chica uses his bathroom, to freshen and lube up for next trick. think dummy.
it would be smart for a newbie, to go to the pink palace to observe first. just sit back and watch how the game is played for a few days, meanwhile newbie should go to places like zona blue and oasis( which is in my opinion a great value) beforehand, to take care of his biological needs. the reason is that he will know what the score is, will be able to pick his chica, without any bullshit, and with a little game and being nice to the chica, will get good service. i never had a bad experience at oasis, and had only one bad time at zb. nighttime one can also go to idem.
i do agree with the guy who mentioned cafe mundo. great atmosphere, with the right chica( not a nightime dr girl).
ok , enough of my tome, opinons are like assholes, everyone has one.
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[QUOTE=Mr Jetsetter]My condolences to those mongers who weren't able to find a decent-looking woman to spend some time with and thus concluded San Jose is a lousy mongering destination. It sure ain't Rio or Buenos Aires or Bangkok, but you can have a hell of a good time there with some very attractive ladies. I'm attaching a couple of photos I did not take of two Kamur ladies I enjoyed multiple sessions with. Yes, I paid too much by CR standards and Club Kamur is no longer one of my favorite destinations, but Roxana and Sabrina rank pretty high on my all-time "favorites" list, compiled from visits to a number of international destinations.[/QUOTE]
I'd give Roxana an 8. Very sexy!
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[QUOTE=Johnny Sax]I'd give Roxana an 8. Very sexy![/QUOTE]
And that is not even her best photo........
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Super premium
I have not been in CR for a couple of years. I have enjoyed the HDR and some of the other places in the past. I do agree with the flavor of the discussion here, that some experiences are marginal and some are pretty good. Believe me, when I go to SJO next month I will participate because I am sure I can find something attractive to me at one of the spots.
Most of my activity occurs in the states and as a result I am used to paying much higher prices. My question is, does anyone know of a private service that reliably provides super premium girls at a higher price? $150 - $200 would be a bargain compared to Miami Companions, but would have to be outstanding service and nothing less than 8.75 in anybody's book.
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Nope. Expect that the escort services in CR tend to run about $100/hour up to $200-400 per day, but I would not in any way consider these to be Super Premium in quality. More like reliable 7-8s in quality of looks, and service varying from 6s to the occassional 9s, but not reliable 9s.