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Here is some back ground info about Shibuya girls. This was published in Japan today a few days ago.------------You'd think the items sold at these stores would be too expensive for such young girls. Yet they are buying hair bands for 1,600 yen, socks for 1,400 yen, T-shirts from 5,000 yen and mini skirts for more than 10,000 yen.One 11-year-old elementary school girl who came from Yokohama to shop at 109 said, "My monthly allowance is only 5,000 yen but that is almost nothing to me. There are many things I want to get, so I need to beg my grandma for more money."According to research conducted by Mizuho Bank last January, Tokyo's elementary school students receive around 666 yen allowance per month in average, so the Yokohama girl isn't doing too badly.Nearby, men aged around 30 years old with brown hair and clad in flashy suits are roaming the streets. As soon as they spot a girl who looks like an elementary school or junior high school student, they say hello and strike up a conversation with them.One young girl, who claims she is 13, said, "I come to Shibuya two or three times a week. Whenever I come here, these guys approach me. If he is a nice-looking man, I will go with him to chat. If he is willing to pay just for a chat, why not? I need money. I've got bills to pay, including a cell phone, so I need 50,000 yen allowance per month at least. My parents do not know anything about me. Even if I get paid to go on a date, they won't know anything if I keep my mouth shut. I think they are not interested in me."Late afternoon, just before 5 p.m., some of those young kids rush to Shibuya station to catch the train back home, but others drift off to hang out at game centers.One 12-year-old girl who was playing at a game center said, "I was scouted by some guy who wanted me to be a cabaret hostess just before I came here. But when I told him my age, he said he better wait for me to age more."It's not just the scout who hit the wrong target. Today's young girls grow fast and are easily mistaken for adults.Blame cell phonesSays one reporter: "Young girls' appearance nowadays completely exceeds how older people imagine them to be. They wear expensive clothes, makeup and are often dieting. Their overall values and physical levels are just like an adult. However, the instrument for these young girls to enter the world of sordid sex is the cell phone. Almost 50% of young girls have one. These gadgets are fueling underground youth prostitution. Unless we regulate cell phone usage, we cannot expect any progress in preventing sex crimes involving minors."The reporter recently tried a cell phone dating service to see who he could meet. He arranged dates with two girls who live in Tokyo's suburbs ?Egirl A, a second grade junior high school student, and girl B, a sixth grade elementary school student.Both were about 160 cm tall. Their hair has been dyed brown and their eyes clearly defined with lines, mascara and well-brushed eyebrows. They both had beautifully painted fingernails. The girls said they had earned almost 300,000 yen from compensated dating since April.The following is the reporter's interview with them.How do you know each other?Girl B: A is my sister's friend. They got to know each other through an Internet chat room. Coincidentally, A lived near my house, so my sister introduced her to me in March.How did you start compensated dating?Girl A: B said she needed money, so I started to help her. That's all.How do you arrange dates?Girl A: Once you post a message on a cell phone Net chat site, such as "Would you like to go out with an elementary student?" you can get many responses.How did you learn the method?Girl A: From my cell phone mail friend. She's been doing compensated dating a lot and she came up with that idea one day.Do you have more friends who do this sort of thing with you?Girl A: I know three other girls ?Eone junior high school student and two high school students. I've been organizing them.What do you mean by organizing them?Girl A: I put advertisements on the chat site and when I receive requests from a man, I introduce him to a girl close to his type.Do you meet many men yourself?Girl A: No, I do not. I hate old farts. They make me nauseous. Plus, I have a boyfriend. I've been going out with him for almost six years. I met him when I was in the third grade. I lost my virginity to him when I was 12 years old and I won't cheat on him, so I do not put myself on sale like that. I just receive an agent's fee, 10,000 yen per request.If you get 10,000 yen as your fee per request, how much does compensated dating cost?Girl A: It's about 30,000 yen for sex. For touching, we charge 15,000 yen. If it's just chatting, that's 1,500 yen per hour. Some people say if we can provide a girl with a uniform, they will pay 50,000 yen. If she is a virgin, they will pay 200,000 yen.Do you have sex with your customers?Girl B: No, I do not. I am still a virgin.How many men have you dated so far?Girl B: About eight so far, ranging in age from 19 to 50 years old. They are most likely serious businessmen.What do you do with the money you make?Girl A: I have a band, so I use my money for it. I also spend 10,000 yen on clothes every month but sometimes I splurge up to 100,000 yen.Girl B: My allowance is 5,000 yen but that's not enough. I have no choice since I am an elementary school student and I cannot get a job. So I've got to do compensated dating.What do your parents do?Girl B: Our fathers are both businessmen and our moms are housewives. Our curfew is 10 p.m., but they do not really care about what we do when we go out. They don't know I am doing compensated dating.How about school?Girl A: I go to school everyday but don't study very much.Girl B: I always get the highest scores on English and math tests. I think I am one of the best students at my school.How long are you going to do this?Girl A: Until I no longer need money.Girl B: When I find a boyfriend, I will quit this job.
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It is funny how all societies treat young girls and women like they are so innocent! But the questions we should ask is how do young boys pay their bills cellphones, video games, DVD expenses subway money etc... More excuses from more greedy bitches!
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Olap,The sites were posted on this board back in the spring. Just do a search for http in the Japan board and you should find it easy enough.One thing to keep in mind is that you have to do some leg work going this route, and you won't end up saving any money. Treat the woman right with a nice dinner etc., and you may get lucky. You will have to correspond with them for about a month, and you may have to go on two or more dates. It just depends.If you're just after sex, then I'd say go with the professionals. You won't be disappointed. If you like the "chase" as I do, then the board route is fun.Good luck!BR[QUOTE]Originally posted by Olap[i]Hi bikerider,Nice review of Tokyo, I am going there in November.Would you point me in the right direction for email friend boards.If you like pls send me PM wazi_tinkin@yahoo.comThanks [/i][/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Three X[i]Hey got to www.adultfriendfinders.com and look in the Japan section! [/i][/QUOTE]If anyone has had any luck with this website, which I will call AFF, please post about it here. I've been a paying member for over a year, and it seems to be a major trolling ground for spammers. However, I joined with the view of getting some freebies; if you are looking to pursue the hobby there, there are some ladies' profiles that lead me to believe there is potential for that there. Such things as "looking for rich businessman..."This site has many sister sites, such as asiafriendfinder and one for the P.I. and China. Those sister sites are mostly straightup, looking for a lifetime mate kind of sites. The adultfriendfinder site is for those seeking discrete relationships, one night stands, threesomes, S & M, etc. But you occasionally see some innocent, single Japanese woman posting her profile, and she will say she is looking for a longtime relationship. Obviously not aware of her "surroundings"!The reason I say I think it is a trolling ground for spammers is that very few of the members pay money; for a free membership, basically you get to post your profile and hope that others see it and email you through the site. You are only allowed to send one email a day, I believe, and you have very limited search capabilities. (When you look at more than a few profiles in a day, you get a page that asks you to upgrade your membership to silver or gold in order to see more.) Almost all the emails I have received, and there haven't been many, ask me to email their yahoo account or whatever; the only way to do that is with your own email account; the AFF website email system is totally self-contained. So after you email them at their non-AFF account (and often they ask you to include a nude pic; probably for them to post up on some website somewhere...NO THANK YOU!), they have your non-AFF email account address and from there who knows who gets it! I've rarely gotten a reply, causing me to further doubt the sincerity of their requests. Actually, the account I use for these kinds of things is yahoo and I don't have a junk mail problem with it yet, only about 5 a day (my hotmail account gets 20 - 30 junk mails a day...thanks Microsoft), but I am put off by the lack of serious people there. Another obvious problem is people posting false profiles. There are way too many supposedly 20ish supposedly Japanese supposedly girls posting in fluent English about sexual matters. I can easily see some military dependents posted with their dad in the Tokyo area using this website to get their kicks and grins. (If you are one of these dads, do you know where your kid has logged in tonight ;-)I thought I had some great dialogue going with an AFF guy in another part of Japan, another gaijin, who was looking for a guy for a 3P with his Japanese wife. (He and I are both straight; you can imagine my haste in making that clear!) In our off-AFF emails, he spent a fair amount of time answering my questions, such as how many times he and his wife had done this, what they expected from the second guy, etc. Then just when my business trip to his city got suspended until October and I told him, he sent me a one line email telling me to go F myself! That really bummed me out and I'm still wondering if he was ever serious or was always a pretender. So why do I continue to pay for a membership you ask? Good question! I guess it is an escape and it has enriched my cyberlife. With my membership, I can see as many profiles as I like, send as many emails in the AFF system as I like, etc. I'm still hoping to hook up with a Japanese lady or two or three through AFF, maybe a housewife who is just looking for a sexfriend. I never considered a 3P before, but since reading many profiles of couples on AFF (unfortunately, most looking for a second female...), a 3P intrigues me now and I would like to try it. (Is it possible to double up on one of the ladies in Koganecho?) So, to sum up, adultfriendfinder can be interesting and a neat diverstion, but don't have unrealistically high expectations. That has been my experience anyway.
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For those who like white women and who can afford escorts: http://www.blonde-roppongi.com/index.htmWhen I was gathering info on 2ch.net (bulettin boards in Japanese) I came across this website. I believe it's located in Roppongi as its name suggests.For some of you, it may be much easier to pick them up in the clubs in Roppongi. I used to go to Club Isn't It (is it still there?) when it was free and met some pretty Euro girls.The cool place to pick girls up is "manga kissa" where you can stay reading comic books and drink some tea/coffee/juice. There's at least one in Roppongi and I've seen some girls whoi were wandering around in there to be spoken to. Have anyone tried it?
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Hi,everybody,I am an Asian of 25 n would like to ask a question. One day about 8pm I walked in the street (in Tokyo) an Arabian man approched me n guessed exactly where I was from (Hongkong), he said he was from Saudi Arabia, lots of Hongkong people worked in his previous company so he knew i was from HK, he asked me the way to shinjuku but i did not know the direction, he invited me to go with him to shinjuku n said he would drive me there since he had his own car, I declined but he insisted to do that, a japanese woman passed by n he asked for the woman for the same question n invitation , the woman declined too, so he left by driving his car . As that was my first trip to Japan, anybody could tell me what the man want to do and why he had a car licence as an Arabian but did not know direction of Shinjuku.
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Hey I used it here in the states and got maybe 10 write backs! But you should send a nude picture and write something interesting to catch their interest!
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Hi guys,I guess you some of you guys having trouble in language and cultural difference in Japan. So may be I can help you while I am staying here.Although I do not know knight scene in Tokyo well, I think, I can help by translating, giving geographical direction, and some advice of Japanese culture. Feel free to ask any questions. I am Japanese and I do this just for curiosity and appreciation of this website. CL
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I'd like to hear more about your AFF cyber encounters, Three X. In particular, did any of them lead to face-to-face meetings? Or do any of them seem to have that potential?Any info appreciated.Anybody else here toyed with the AFF site? Any luck? It's a worldwide operation, and apparently English oriented. My computer, which can usually display Japanese characters with no problem, shows mojibake for some AFF profiles, which leads me to believe the people tried to write their profile in Japanese but AFF is incapable of handling Japanese characters. What I was leading to, before digressing on the mojibake issue, is that the general Japanese population seems unaware of AFF's existence on the web. If there was a way to publicize AFF in the ladies' comics here in Japan, I wonder if that would help our chances of hooking up with Japanese women who desire one or two (or three ...) encounters of the gaijin kind. Not a relationship; just a one-night stand or a sex friend kind of agreement. On the asianfriendfinder site, the longlasting relationship sister site of AFF, there are a lot of Japanese women. And ladies of other nationalities living in Japan. I managed to hook up with one of them in Tokyo, a Chinese lady who was teaching Chinese at some semmon gakko I think. We met at the outdoor meeting junction at My City (Shinjuku Sta.), went to a restaurant across the street, something like Orchid Cafe, then went to a small jazz bar, then I kind of led her to a love hotel in Kabuki-cho. When she realized what I was doing, she said something like, "If we do this, we can't date anymore. Do you still want to do it?" I was a little tipsy from the beer drinking, and said, "Yes!" (Well, our whole conversation was in Japanese actually. She was impressed by my Japanese, compared to most white foreigners, but I can't speak it that well.) So we paid for the room and . . . met each other more completely. She claimed to be divorced (Japanese man) with no kids. But I think you can tell by the nipples if kids have been born from the lady, and her nipples gave that part of her life away. No problem to me; I actually like bigger nipples and any color (pink, light brown, nearly black) will do. Never heard from her after that, and never tried to email her again. I was living far from Tokyo then, so there really was just a chance for a one night thing. I dated another lady through asianfriendfinder, Japanese this time. It was in Osaka, but I didn't live near Osaka either (I made up some story about living about an hour from there, in the boonies). She was so sweet, and really serious about finding a mate; I think she was about 30 at that time, the age when Japanese females are really starting to feel like they need to find a husband or else they will spend their whole lives as old maids. She spoke fluent English, working as a translator. I just didn't feel like I could take advantage of her to the extent of having sex based on her belief in my lie that I lived relatively close and was seeking a long-term relationship. That's a road I just can't go down. The Chinese lady was different for me because I could sense that she wasn't being totally honest with me either and would be willing to go for a one-night fling under the right circumstances. She proved me right.Sorry to be so longwinded here. Again, if anyone has had luck with adultfriendfinder, let us know!
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I have just enrolled in both adultfriendfinder and asiafriendfinder and am trying to setup some appointments for sex... in looks that it is not so easy, and as usuall, when you see that you have 10 times more men looking for girls than the opposite, it just makes you understand that the few ladies posting their pictures should get 100 of emails per day...
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None of them lead to face to face.Here are some reasons1. I didn't have a face picture nor a "body" picture.2. Some girls recieve to many pictures so it takes a long time to screen interested people.3. Some didn't like my profile.4. Some want their husbands to watch and/or participate.5. One plump latina was to far and I felt would propably flake.6. And some lived to close to me.7. I spot on co worker from work on AFF so that x'ed her out .8. I only had a one month membership.The bottom line is I feel it will work but it takes time and money nice pictures and a cool profile!
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Hello All,I have signed up on the AFF network and have recieved reply's to my profile but I cannot seem to get on to the part where you can look at the womens profile without a full membership. Has anyone been able to accomplish this without sending in some money? Also I think the time lag problem is that some of these girls use internet cafes with occasional checkin of email.You never know if you will find a friend you already know on there or maybe your present girlfriend.ThreeX, I would have gone after the co-worker myself! What a find!If there was a www.hotornot.com in Japan would it work?
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Interesting post, Erbavore.I'm encountering this phenomenon too. Last Sunday at the local railway station here in Tokyo I encounter a crash hot blond chick aged about 20, dress with nice tits 70% revealed sitting on a bench looking desperate, but is toying with a mobile phone. I'm in my forties/fifties but I go up to her and offer to be of assistance. Japanese is the only language that works. She Is very pleased to talk to me and we go to a coffee shop. She IS 20, from Ukraine, been here three months working at a hostess bar in Kinshicho. She lives in a small apartment with 5 other similar Ukranian girls. She has a holiday two Sundays a month only. She wanted to go bowling but got lost. I suggest going to a hotel for cash (and show her the condom in my pocket) but she is not ready for that, but not overly alarmed. She is quite a sweet kid.Nevertheless we hit it off really well, and exchange mobile phone nos. At her request I take her back to Kinshicho. She promises to meet me on her next day off (28 September). I am toying between Disneyland and my lodge in the mountains...
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Lubricateit, I met one of these Eastern European entertainers a few months ago at the Thai Embassy in Phnom Penh. She was spending her cash down there after working a few months in Tokyo. This girl was from I think Poland, can't remember for sure - anyway she had huge, perfect, real breasts, great European body. She told me what she did for a living, but claimed that no sex was involved. At the time I thought that sounded absurd, but I guess there's no figuring out what Japanese men are up to eh?Sadly I had to catch a flight immediately after my embassy visit so didn't try to pursue her. Probably out of my league/price range anyway. Apparently used to getting paid big yen just to stare at her tits over dinner and drinks.
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The whole hostess thing is long-running in Japan, and most that I know of, will not have any sexual relations for money with their customers. I've had a few girlfriends who were hostesses, and it's basically just working at a bar while having your ear talked off and getting paid extra to go out for a bite to eat (and extra if you can pull them back to the club).Anyway, anyone with information for "health" salons in Tokyo that accept foreigners? Seems to be a rarity.