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I've been visiting some of the Ukrainian websites and have
noticed some girls talking about sponsers. Don't understand
if they're looking to visit abroad or if it's some term that means
something else. At first I thought I got into a matchmaking
site by accident...but nope!
Anyone?
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GoodLifeLiver-
This is also common in Russia. It's basically a woman that is looking to be "kept". Help her with her living expenses in order for her to be your girlfriend (whenever you need one).
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Traveller22 --
Will be following you to kiev in August for the entire month. No solid plans, except that I will be there for 4-6 weeks.
Will be waiting for your report for most up-to-date info.
Thinking about staying with a host family for a week or so until I can get the lay of the land (first time in Ukraine). Will probably get an apartment after that.
In the process of learning Russian right now, since I know it will give me an edge with the non-pros.
Anyway, have fun. Take lots of notes!
Yossarian99
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Traveller22,
Well first I am sorry for takeing so long to respond. I have been rather preoccupied lately. Well I use a visa service that obtains a tourist visa for me. Small fee included. After that I rent an appartment and just explore. If you have any need for further info drop me a line at baybilly@hotmail.com . I'll do my best to answer any questions then. Well sorry this is shor but I have to get going good luck.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Armorer
[i]Traveller22,
Well first I am sorry for takeing so long to respond. I have been rather preoccupied lately. Well I use a visa service that obtains a tourist visa for me. Small fee included. After that I rent an appartment and just explore. If you have any need for further info drop me a line at baybilly@hotmail.com . I'll do my best to answer any questions then. Well sorry this is shor but I have to get going good luck. [/i][/QUOTE]Armorer --
Can you provide some more info on your recent trip to Ukraine? Per my message to Traveller22 below, I will be in Ukraine for 4-6 weeks in August but with not solid plans once I am there.
Thanks,
Yossarian99
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Hello Armorer and Yossarian999!
I am in Kiev since the first of June. I will stay a few weeks. Maybe till the end of the month. I have a lot of free time but i must confess you my friends that I am not very proud of myself. I see everyday in kiev so much beautiful girls but something is inhibiting me! Because of this damned fear of rejection i didn't talk directly to any girls yet. Such a shame! I don't want to bother you too long with my inhibitions but maybe, armorer, you could give me some tricks! I know that the main trick is in fact just to try but those girls are so impressive.
I will be this week end in Odessa. Will post I hope some more positive reports then!
See you soon my friends!
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Traveller22- I am not really sure what to tell you excpet, just start by sayin Hello. Be yourself. Thats all I can say. I know how you feel about rejection, but got to try. All else fails yhou can always go pro, and that can be as fun. good luck.
Yossarian99- Well going to be spending much time there in august? Is this for a school? Best thing I can say is don't be shy, go out and dance and check the parks out, beach. Where ever people are. Can go danceing at disco, its all up to you. I can say this much there is alot of fun to be had for he who is brave.
Also anyone emailing me please put something about Ukraine or Kiev inthe subject. Getting alot of junk mail lately and kinda scrapping it . Well I got to run anything else email me at baybilly@hotmail.com
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Armorer
[i]Traveller22- I am not really sure what to tell you excpet, just start by sayin Hello. Be yourself. Thats all I can say. I know how you feel about rejection, but got to try. All else fails yhou can always go pro, and that can be as fun. good luck.
Yossarian99- Well going to be spending much time there in august? Is this for a school? Best thing I can say is don't be shy, go out and dance and check the parks out, beach. Where ever people are. Can go danceing at disco, its all up to you. I can say this much there is alot of fun to be had for he who is brave.
Also anyone emailing me please put something about Ukraine or Kiev inthe subject. Getting alot of junk mail lately and kinda scrapping it . Well I got to run anything else email me at baybilly@hotmail.com [/i][/QUOTE]
Traveller22,
I'ts too bad you don't have a "wing man". I am quite shy myself and find a wing man to be very helpful.
When travelling alone, a common technique I frequently use is to try and ask for directions in russian / ukrainian while holding a phrase book in my hand. The idea of a helpless tourist asking for directions seems to disarm them just long enough to get you in the door. This little ploy announces to them that you are not just another local guy. At that point, their curiosity takes over, and you'll be having coffee (or sex) with them in no time. The key to remember is you are working the odds. If you get brushed off the first time, try again, and again, and again. No matter who you are, sooner or later, you WILL succeed, my friend.
Armorer,
My trip is purely for pleasure. I have a month vacation, and decided to just stay in one city (Kiev) or maybe two (Kiev and Odessa). I was hoping to get some tips on how I should approach vacationing in these cities.
Yossarian99
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T22, use a trick that seems to always work without threatening you or the girl... Simply ask directions in English or your native language. Then, she will either help you or wave you off. Once she responds in English, you can expand the conversation. Who knows where it will lead.
You will not always get a positive reaction, but you've got to remember that even a 10% success rate will work in your favor if it leads to a cup of coffee, then lunch/dinner, then maybe a club and then...
Try it until it works...
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T22
I've tried that system of pick up many times in Moscow. If you are staying at a nice hotel, ask for directions to that hotel, if there's a smile and nod, you have struck gold. Invite that chick to the hotel and before you know it, something can develop. I would say a 30% success ration is possible. Good luck and happy punting.
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What language is most common they speak? Can I manage in Ukraine with english?
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Traveller22
[i]Hello Armorer and Yossarian999!
I am in Kiev since the first of June. I will stay a few weeks. Maybe till the end of the month. I have a lot of free time but i must confess you my friends that I am not very proud of myself. I see everyday in kiev so much beautiful girls but something is inhibiting me! Because of this damned fear of rejection i didn't talk directly to any girls yet. Such a shame! I don't want to bother you too long with my inhibitions but maybe, armorer, you could give me some tricks! I know that the main trick is in fact just to try but those girls are so impressive.
I will be this week end in Odessa. Will post I hope some more positive reports then!
See you soon my friends! [/i][/QUOTE]Hey Traveller22,
This site has been quiet for the last couple weeks. Let us know what and how you are doing in Kiev and Odessa. Are you in hotels or apartments? Give some suggestions if you have any.
Yossarian99
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any recommendations on good, cheap, monger friendly accomadation in kiev? looking in the $30-50 range/night.
tiger.
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Hey guys,
Coming to Kiev in July (on or around the 9th) and would like to rent an apartment for a week. Anyone have any good contacts? Please email me at michaelgage@mail.ru
Michael
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michael - great reports on moscow - please post any reviews on this thread (from your experiences when you go to kiev) as well.
tiger.