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Just a quick note for Rich_AZ and dougie - I park downtown almost all the way to the bridge on Santa Fe. It's $3 bucks for all day and I think as safe as you could want. But I've only parked during the afternoons and early evenings. But I would not be afraid to try and park overnight. Just an idea on the parking. I've not stayed at the Villa Manport, but have used the banos and have had a coke next door. The people at the hotel are very accomodating, especially if you are polite. Good hunting or browsing - or whatever you call it.
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I just completed a short trip to Juraez (48 hours), and without the information provided for free on this site it is unlikely that I would have had as good of a time as I did. Dreaming Eagle and Border Rat provided me with detailed and accuracte information, and I thank them again for that useful information. When I first crossed the border in the late afternoon, I headed for Club Panama where Dreaming Eagle advised me to seek out a man named Martin. The bartender said he knew who I was asking for and left to go find him. A few minutes later, in walks Martin, and I introduce myself and ask him to give my a tour of the neighborhood. Fortunately Martin speaks English, and he took me on a thirty to forty minute tour of the better-known clubs in the area. When we entered each place, he introduced me to the owner or some other employee. As we walked around, he explaned the procedures for conducting business in each place, along with other bits of interesting or useful information. After visiting about four clubs, he then escorted me over to Mariscal (spelling?) Street and pointed out what he considered to be the best strip clubs. He explained that the girls in these strip clubs are available, but that the clubs do not feel responsible for their customers, and they are not as safe as the other better-known clubs. For his trouble I gave him a tip of $10. This tour made me familiar with the neighborhood where the entertainment is located, and with what is going on there. If you have the time, a tour with Martin may be both enjoyable and valuable.
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EPG, I also park at that lot, the one with the little attendant shack under the big "Border Parking" sign. It is $3 to park all day but is $5 for 24 hours. I feel safe parking there during the day also but I have been leery of leaving my car there if I plan to be in Juarez for several days. Also, I believe that is the area where Elk Dreamer had his stereo stolen out of his car. I stick to my assertion that the airport and the #33 Sun Metro bus downtown is the safest and most cost effective way to stash a car in EP while on a trip south of the border.
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It was on one the big lots down close to the bridge where my car stereo was stolen. That is correct. After that, I went a couple of blocks back North on Sante Fe and resumed parking in a much smaller lot where they really watch the cars. If you are headed towards the border on Sante Fe, it's a small lot on your left with a sign on the building beside it saying "Public Parking" between 3rd and 4th Streets. If you see a young Hispanic guy named Eugene, tell him Ron from Las Cruces said hello. If you will notice on the left side of the lot are a row of apartments. Eugene and his father live in two of them, so they are never far from the cars. The father is a wizened old guy in his late 70's or 80's. My only concern there now that I drive a new car is that they cram the cars in there so tightly I'm afraid someone would hit mine pulling in or out. Not that it matters since I drive over now, but if you don't have time for the "100% safe" deal at the airport this place is worth considering.
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Yes, I too, have parked at "Eugene's" place just north of the larger parking lot closer the bridge. And I had a good feeling there except for the crampy parking accomodations. I've got an older BMW and not too concerned about a scratch here or there even though the car is in immaculate condition. But I usually give them a good tip because I've always enjoyed the hospitality at this parking lot. I really am amazed at how one can find good hospitality in such places as a parking lot and then, in contrast, find such inhumane hospitality in some of the more "cultured" businesses. Anyway ....
But if I were driving a new car, I would be a little concerned about such close quarters. I agree, for an overnighter, I would park at the airport. It's just the fact that I only go over for a couple of hours and it's always in the later afternoon. And my schedule is always tight so I grab the closest thing to the border.
I'm going to be in L.A. this weekend and, sadly, I had to tell my favorite gal, "Proximo semana no aqui". She appreciated my letting her know. I can't believe how well I communicate with someone with whom I can barely speak the same language. It truly tells me that good communication springs from the heart and not necessarily from the mouth.
Okay, I'll admit I do miss being able to talk to her more. But that just leaves more time for kissing. She is a kisssing fool and Mary Kay is missing a great opportunity to have some of their lipstick and whatever tested.
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Well guys, I made it back to the world of lust and crime. Was in J-town the other night and I have to say that there is a totally sexy girl now working at Laura's (forget the name, but she has a little nose ring and is super cute.) I was already with another girl at the time, and don't really like to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] the girls off, so I didn't make the switch. Much later that evening I see her walking down the street so I say hello. She remembers me and I notice that she is way wasted (hiccups and incoherency). So we hook up and she says she wants a drink. We end up at this totally Mexican bar about 4 blocks south of the Panama. We have a drink and she keeps wanting to kiss me. I mean really kiss me, like porno kisses. I'm thinking for sure I'm getting killed by jealous Mexicans tonight, and try to play nice guy with her. She gets tired of this nice guy act eventually and takes off, much to my approval. I definitely do not need more enemies down there. So she leaves and I'm chatting with this Mex. guy next to me and I recognize a girl down the bar. So thinking I would be clever I tell this guy in spanish, "You see that girl over there, she works at the Panana club, she's a real sweet heart and I had her one time." In retrospect it was not a good move, as this guy tells me that is his ex-girlfriend. Surprisingly, he was not even mad and we ended up going to a few other places and I gave him a tour of the zona (imagine that). Just a typical night for me.
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jefegeoff..... I have seen wheelchairs in most of the aforementioned bars at one time or another. How are you planning to get to the zona? If someone was with you, you could possibly transit around in your chair between the bars. Another option is to just order out. Last time I did (2 years ago), it was $60 for 2 hours at 2 am on a weekday morning. Guessing much more for prime time. Or if you plan to use taxi's, you might as well hit the MP's if you are there early enough. Yeah, you can get in all the bars in a chair, but I wouldn't wheel around the zona by yourself. Good luck to you!
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Ordering from a night service will definitely get you mixed results...
The first time I did the result was awful. The guy showed up with one girl. She looked okay in her overcoat, but when she disrobed she had a flabby body. I could not even get off fucking her and sent her back in about 30 minutes.
The second time was better. A dude knocks on my door and asked me what kind of girl I want---like he is just going to run back down to the van and pick the one closest to what I described.
I told him I wanted to see all of the girls, and he comes back three minutes later with 8 girls in two. They parade into my apartment, and 7 of the 8 girls are either gorditas, too worn out looking, too something...
But I was horny and picked on with a very nice smile and the most beautiful long thick black hair I have ever seen. She looked a big large for my tastes, but when she stripped down she had a beautifully firm body with big firm tits that kind of left you like "wow".
First, however, since I had two hours, I gave her a beer and talked to her a long time. She liked the Native American art in my apartment. She place was clean and spiffed up that night, and I played my Native American flute for her. By the time we went to bed, it, was, well, a romantic encounter.
Put her on top and let her fuck me until she came so hard her pussy started convulsing and spurting juice that ran down my balls and made a big wet spot on the bed. That sent me right over the edge along with her. It was a great fuck.
I gave her my cell and invited her to return anytime. She gave me her cell and said she would like to come back sometime, but please, I would call her when I was ready. When she left she said god bless you, made the sign of the cross on my chest with her fingers, kissed them, and threw a big warm smile over her shoulder as she passed through the door to leave.
The cost was $45.
You just be sure to tell them you DO NOT HAVE more than $50, because they will jack the price up to $70 if you are in a hotel. Mexican guys pay $40 for the same service...
Hope this helps.
Oh, if you do not want any of the girls they bring you, it's customary to give the driver $5 for his time and gas. This comes from one of my girl neighbors who worked for the night services for quite a while.
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jefegeoff......unless you need to live close to the US for whatever reason, I wouldn't recommend living in Juarez. There are MUCH nicer places in Mexico, if you really want to live down there. I just got back from a 2 month trip to see my favorite places, Zacatecas and Morelia, and the difference is like night and day. Juarez, like most border cities, has more crime, trash, drugs, transients, and panhandlers than almost anywhere in the interior except DF. I'm not saying Juarez is all bad, as my weekly visits should prove. As a monger destination for those living nearby in the US, it is a convenient, exciting, and somewhat safe place. I'm just glad I can return to the US each night when my fun is over.
As far as finding reasonably priced assistance for your needs, that shouldn't be a problem. I think the average wage is about $40 week and jobs are scarce. I'm not really sure if you want live-in or hourly help, but you may even be able to solve your previously mentioned outcall needs at the same time. Finding help should be easy, but finding help that won't rip you off at any given time will be a task. A referral should be your #1 priority when looking for someone. Good luck to you.
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Jefegeoff, you might find things a little challenging south of the border. I am pretty certain there there is nothing ever remotely resembling the ADA in Mexico, LOTS of places will be completely inaccessable to you in a wheelchair. Lots of the hotels, especially the better ones (including the Villa Manport) have wheelchair ramps into the building but going might be tough after that.
Think of it in these terms, most of the buildings down there, especially places of interest to "us", are just plain OLD, and predate even voluntary efforts to accomodate the handicapped. And no money available to update them. Lots of narrow, steep staricases, few wheelchair ramps, ect. You will need to spend a little time down there and judge for yourself. I don't want to sound like a Negative Nellie, but I think a dose of realism is in order here. Hopefully someone will pipe up and contradict me and paint a rosier picture for you.
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I do not know if ElPasoGentlemen is talking about the little lot on the left side of Sante Fe as you head towards the bridge between 3rd and 4th Streets or not, but, if you can get a space in this lot, I highly recommend it. In one of the large parking lots towards the end of Sante Fe I had my CD player stolen out of my car, and when I reported it to the person at the booth I got a very hostile response about them not being responsible for anything. A couple of the guys who worked there were standing around with little snickers on their faces.
So I went back to the small lot I'm telling you about, because it's run by an old man his son, Eugene, who live in the apartments facing the parking lot. The cars are watched a lot closer than they are on those big lots. It's between 3rd and 4th Streets on Sante Fe and has a sign painted on the building facing it which says simply "Public Parking".
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regarding the question about the mps. i have only encountered one girl who was not from mexico in either the mps or the ***** bars in two years, except one american girl from milwaukee. she later strangely became my next door neighbor, met a mexican guy, moved out, and is no longer whoring.
regarding the question about finding younger girls to play with. you can find some downtown, but they are drug addicts. and, frankly, you'd be better off drinking turpentine and pissing on a brush fire than fooling around with **** girls in juarez. the age of consent is 18, and if you get caught with one and can't pay off the cop you are going to prison, and the american counselate is going to bring you a tooth brush and say good luck, if they come at all. i recently had a close call because i knew the girl for a year due to an association with another neighbor. she will be 18 soon, and i was just taking her out to dinner. but i almost did not get out of that one, have no plans to look her up until she's 18, and am not about to tell anyone how to get into that kind of trouble.
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why you old rascal, dreaming eagle!!! shame on you for trying to get into an ****d girl's panties!!!
i'll tell you, not only would the young gal miss you if you were thrown in the slammer - but howabout all of us guys on the board here. we would have to take turns smuggling a laptop in to you so you could continue doing your posts here on the wsg forum. and we would be more than happy to bring you a clean toothbrush now and then.
reader's beware, de knows the ropes and it would pay to take heed.
i once took a young gal for an hour of pleasure. she said she was 17 and, dumb me, i did not even think of what i might be getting into. she was a very nice and beautiful girl but she lacked some of the sexual skills that i was seeking. in the final analysis, i would try the sex thing with her again - but i'd make sure she was 18 first.
currently, i'm seeing an "older" gal on a regular basis and getting very close to her. she is not working the bars anymore. i don't know how things will shake out - but i don't worry about it. i do love to watch her come to orgasms several times each time i'm with her; and it's difficult for others to do that if you only see them occasionally. anyway, more later.
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Howdy, Folks. This is a great forum and I'm glad to have found you.
A little over a month ago I went to the Queens club (green lights, a couple of blocks west of Juarez). I met a beautiful girl there who never had sex with customers. (I'm just not interested in prostitutes.) We became very good friends and I gave her all the financial help I could (a little over a thousand in a month) -- and have absolutely no regrets. I met her children and couldn't help myself. Unfortunately, I fell in love with her but after five weeks she still couldn't kiss me even though she held my hands for dear life every time we met and she talked about a longer term relationship. But she's had some bad experiences with men and trust is very difficult for her. I've had to back off just for the sake of my own mental health.
Most of the girls at Queens aren't prostitutes even though it's a strip bar. I was surprised about that, but after several weeks of observations three nights every week, I am convinced. I would like to meet another girl in a similar club, i.e., where most of the women aren't prostitutes. Obviously, I can't consider any of the other girls at Queens. I'll be grateful for any suggestions.
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Thanks, El Paso, but truth be known I really wasn't trying to get her pants. I've known her about eight months and was looking to the future when she turns 18. She speaks great English, and there is just a genuine connection there. But up rush the cops before I had gotten ten feet in my car---a male and female cop. I agree it's better to have a steady date or girlfriend. How did you meet yours?