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[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;1858804]HK chicas just hang out in the bar, watching guys like hawks and gossip. They can smell newbies' meat the instant they crawl in the door. Hehe.
If you speak Spanish but negotiate in dollars, of course they know you are fresh Gringo meat. HK's top-tiered chicas usually fuck local guys for 1000 pesos (un mil), about $60 now, which is fair. A few chicas would go as low as $40 with me. A retired guy I know, looking like an old scruffy Charles Bronson, go to HK at least a few times a week. Since the chicas know him as a regular, quite a few would proposition him for all night dates without demanding money. Most times he would take them out to lunch and movies the next day. He's on fixed retirement income and cannot spare money for putas, but he has all kinds of girls crashing in his apartment, some for up to 6 months. He would fuck these girls with the agreement that he can also bring whatever other girls he wants back to his apartment. It' s sad that there seem to be a lot of young girls in Tijuana with desperate financial situations. Tijuana is very sexy and decadent.
Talk to a couple girls you like and Just stick to the un mil figure, and ask specifically for beso en boca, chupar sus tatas (pezones? Comer su pussy (coo? Sexo sin condom etc. More than a few will bite. Going to HK frequently and being familiar with the chicas bring all kinds of benefits.[/QUOTE]Dam I guess I should have talked in pesos. I'm going to be going again in a month or two this time I hope to try and negotiate with all the extras.
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[QUOTE=Jackie888;1858866]A couple of factors push the price upwards: If you appear rich, Asian, well-employed, loose with your money, on a weekend visit, American, White, old, or new to HK; or the girl is really hot, or she is new to HK and the waiters pumped their brains with nonsense pricing.
A couple of factors push the price downwards: If you sound like a local, polite, potential boyfriend or genuine friend, on a weekday visit, a veteran of HK, repeat client; or you are really hot (this particular trait self-assessment is often overly optimistic), or she is a veteran and know what a fair price is.
Fluent Spanish doesn't mean much. Can you do a Tijuana accent? The girls can pinpoint where a Mexican is from based on his Mexican accent. Can you mimic Tijuana mannerism? Same, the girls can pin point where you are from based on your mannerism.[/QUOTE]Never thought of all that. I do have a accent but most people I ask say its a American accent I'm not even sure what that sounds like and no I don't know anything about the Tijuana culture.
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Tijuana
[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1859932]They may have charge you a dollar for the lube.
You can get a room on a higher floor and towards the middle of the hotel, not the same bed used a dozen times. The higher floor and in the middle, would be a lot less noisy.
My guess is that you think the toilets are cleaner at Caesers; I'm sure that you are toilet trained, buck it up and use the damn thing.[/QUOTE]It probably was for the lube. I remember her using it.
And today I took a girl from Adelitas and I was charged 14 dollars at the hotel. The hotel for Adelitas was only 13 dollars on Thursday. I think I was charged an extra dollar for the extra towel, or whatever extra the girl asked for. Maybe sanitizer or something, the puta asked me to wash my hands and sanitized me first.
The only hotels I have stayed at here is Nelson, which is cheap, and kind of grungy, Ticuan which is nice, more expensive, and a very long walk to the bars, and at Caesers, which is decent price, decent room, but still about a 5 block walk to the bars. But, I get plenty of quietness here. I haven't tried, but I don't think they would mind bringing a chica to your room here. There is a hotel called Cesars near the bars, which is easy to confuse for Caesers, the so called place where Caesers salad was invented.
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[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;1859211]The chicas earn between $3 to $5 per ficha, with which they usually spend at least 15 minutes drinking, flirting, touching, kissing, groping etc. With the bros.[/QUOTE]Chicas get exactly $34 mx for a standard ficha which using today's casa de cambio exchange rate equals $2.07.
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[QUOTE=Gagoo;1859913]Last night I took a HK girl up to Cascada and I'm pretty sure they charged me $18. Not the $17 mentioned here.
But. I did have a few drinks and might have imagined it was $18.
I took a girl from Adelitas on Thursday and the room cost there is only $13.
I'll pay attention to the price of Cascada if I take another girl from HK.
A question though: if you rent a room overnight in Cascada do you get a nicer room that isn't having sex on the same bed dozens of times every day? There is no way I'd feel comfortable sleeping in there overnight, especially with the music, and thought of how clean the bed is. And, I wouldn't want to sit on the toilet either. On my last couple trips I've been staying at Caesers Hotel.[/QUOTE]Like many things in Mexico, you need to ask for it, and you need to be specific of what you want. For example, when I rented an all night room, I asked for a room on the 6th FLOOR. And I asked for a quiet room in the BACK. If you simply ask for a quiet room upstairs, you may get a room on the 3rd floor. While infrequently used, I generally use my VIP card to get access to those rooms for sex. Why the 3rd floor? As I understand it, the 4th floor and above is where the Chicas generally rent their monthly room to live in, so they avoid giving your those floors.
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Sliding scale
You need to talk to your chicas again.
I heard they earn percentages on the fichas with a sliding scale. The more fichas they sell a week, the higher the percentage of each they earn.
This little chica America was one of the top sales girl, selling hundreds $8 fichas every week. She earned $5 out of each.
[QUOTE=ClamSlammer;1860114]Chicas get exactly $34 mx for a standard ficha which using today's casa de cambio exchange rate equals $2. 07.[/QUOTE]
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Took my girl to HK
So I took my girl to HK on Tues, she has been wanting to go see why I go there. I got a double master suite at rizo for $25. One bed to fuck in, the other to sleep in. After checking in and some hanky panky, we headed to HK for some fun at 11 pm.
I showed her my routine, first going upstairs so I can see who is working. Then we made our way to the South side to watch the lesbian show, where she proceeded to get slammed on mixed drinks. Since she wanted to see why I like these shows, I beckoned the chicas over, and started to finger them while she tipped them. After a couple of minutes, I cleaned off their titties, poured the condensed milk on their nipples and started to suck, while my girl made it rain dollars. The crowd also got into, started to hoot, and finally joined in the fun. The security guard working the side was extremely nice, he kept an eye on her every time she went to the banos on the north side becuase a lot of guys were eyeing her. I tipped him a 100 pesos and thank him as we went to the main stage.
At the stage, we sat next to where the girls get on and off the stage. As I looked over to to bar, who do I see but my fallen angel, who had me delete her number when we last spoke. She called my buddy over when he went to the banos, and told him she had seen us earlier in the day going into the stoner bar. As we watched strippers on the stage, her fav song that I requested came on, she hopped onto table surrounding the stage, started her sexy dance flashing her boobs at me. The stage handler was going to stop her but I gave him a couple of dollars and he left her alone. The crowd were hooting and clapping. I think they enjoy watching a civie flashing her boobs more than seeing the strppers. When the song was over, she leapt into my arms, gave me a wet kiss and whispered "I am horny baby". I looked around and can see all the chicas that I have enjoyed, giving me the death stare, especially the fallen angel, who had tossed me aside like yesterday's trash. Your lost baby I thought as I led my girl out north side to our hotel room across the street.
I think I made quite a few chicas jealous, girls who accompanied guys into HK don't generally get as wild as my girl. I guess this is why I adore her so. She now wants to come back to HK again.
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[QUOTE=ClamSlammer;1860114]Chicas get exactly $34 mx for a standard ficha which using today's casa de cambio exchange rate equals $2. 07.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I was told the same thing by many of them. They get $2 per ficha. At adelitas they now get 50 pesos, up from 30.
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[QUOTE=ClamSlammer;1860114]Chicas get exactly $34 mx for a standard ficha which using today's casa de cambio exchange rate equals $2. 07.[/QUOTE]That is correct!
No matter how much HK charges for the ficha, the girl only get a lousy 34 pesos.
Some members talk out their ass on here and don't have a fucking clue.
Thanks for telling the truth!
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[QUOTE=AnonX69;1860180]So I took my girl to HK on Tues, she has been wanting to go see why I go there. I got a double master suite at rizo for $25. One bed to fuck in, the other to sleep in. After checking in and some hanky panky, we headed to HK for some fun at 11 pm.
I showed her my routine, first going upstairs so I can see who is working. Then we made our way to the South side to watch the lesbian show, where she proceeded to get slammed on mixed drinks. Since she wanted to see why I like these shows, I beckoned the chicas over, and started to finger them while she tipped them. After a couple of minutes, I cleaned off their titties, poured the condensed milk on their nipples and started to suck, while my girl made it rain dollars. The crowd also got into, started to hoot, and finally joined in the fun. The security guard working the side was extremely nice, he kept an eye on her every time she went to the banos on the north side becuase a lot of guys were eyeing her. I tipped him a 100 pesos and thank him as we went to the main stage..[/QUOTE]For some stupid sicko reason, I am 10 x more interested in the civilian women who sometimes wander into HK even if they are dog-ugly. If a civilian took off her top, I think that Security would have tackled me and carried me out because I would have tried to join her. Last week I was trying to hit on 2 lesbian civilians that was at HK to no avail.
Also, 2 chicas from HK also told me that they get a little more than 30 pesos per drink. So now I often buy just one drink and stuff $5 into my chica's top as we make out and she tells the aggressive waiters to F-off when they pesters me to buy her another drink.
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[QUOTE=ClamSlammer;1860114]Chicas get exactly $34 mx for a standard ficha which using today's casa de cambio exchange rate equals $2. 07.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Tomjackin;1860256]That is correct!
No matter how much HK charges for the ficha, the girl only get a lousy 34 pesos.
Some members talk out their ass on here and don't have a fucking clue.
Thanks for telling the truth![/QUOTE]You two have it correct.
Frankly, I've gotten weary of trying to correct the one poster here who it always getting the facts wrong (and following up his errors with more of the same, peppered with insults).
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The free lancers
There are occasionally free lancers who try to pick up guys in HK, in direct competition with HK's chicas. Most cases the women are older, far chubbier and less attractive than HK girls. Still they are not likely give out their pussies for free, but rather try to make some money out of it.
My wingman and I were sitting next to 3 fairly chubby eager girls, wearing jeans, who spoke some English. They invited us to go to the hotel. My wingman was hot to go but as I suspected, they wanted $70 a piece. They were trying to steal mongers from HK's chicas. They were even dumb enough to ask Ellie the butch how much hotel Cascada's room costs. Security would have kicked them out immediately.
A few weeks ago a civie girl was hanging out with her friends near the stage. She was trying to pick me up, telling me in Spanish she could give me a much better time than HK bar girl. She was pretty big. I would have a hard time finding her pussy under the folds of fat she carried on her belly. If you are not careful, you may fall in the big hairy pussy and never be able to get out. So I just ignored her.
I will tell her to look out for a tough Asian sweetheart, who carries a brick in the bar. Hehe.
[QUOTE=Jackie888;1860257]For some stupid sicko reason, I am 10 x more interested in the civilian women who sometimes wander into HK even if they are dog-ugly. If a civilian took off her top, I think that Security would have tackled me and carried me out because I would have tried to join her. Last week I was trying to hit on 2 lesbian civilians that was at HK to no avail.
Also, 2 chicas from HK also told me that they get a little more than 30 pesos per drink. So now I often buy just one drink and stuff $5 into my chica's top as we make out and she tells the aggressive waiters to F-off when they pesters me to buy her another drink.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;1860286]You two have it correct.
Frankly, I've gotten weary of trying to correct the one poster here who it always getting the facts wrong (and following up his errors with more of the same, peppered with insults).[/QUOTE]That same poster also insists that the stage handler takes a cut of a chicas stage tips. That is not the case at all. The chicas get 100% of their stage tips. The handler will go on stage after the routine and sweep all the bills into the corner with their feet. Then they will neatly arrange the bills and perhaps count it and hand it all to the chica. The chica will then tip the handler a couple bucks. Sometimes if the chica earns $20 or more they will have the handler go to the bar and exchange the $1 bills for a $20 so they don't have to carry around a bulky wad of bills. I've observed this process happen dozens of times in close proximity. The handlers do not take any cut at all except for what is voluntarily tipped to them.
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This clam guy only sees the obvious, not the subtle clues, and he quibbles over insignificant details.
Right after the big New Year raid a few years back, the stage handler would collect the propinas on stage, hand it over to the chicas. All chicas then religiously hand back roughly 20% of the take to the handler without fail. It's obvious that the chicas have been coerced into kicking back to the bar.
Unlike better times in previous years, strippers are now making only a few $ each time they strip. The most popular stripper only made $8 after her routine last week. They show pain and fear handing back 20% of their hard-earned tips. I usually give strippers a few bucks after they settle with the handler so the power-that-be in Tijuana can't suck the blood out of these poor chicas.
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I am on your team.
[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;1860286]You two have it correct.
Frankly, I've gotten weary of trying to correct the one poster here who it always getting the facts wrong (and following up his errors with more of the same, peppered with insults).[/QUOTE]Quite frankly WE ALL can't be wrong and picking on a person who is totally not in touch with reality. I would think he is punking all of us, but I see the passion in his tales. So I think he believes what he says is what everyone believes.