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MONTEGO BAY, JAMAICA,

…. I just got back from Montego Bay, and it is nice. Now here is the deal. Because I brought a female with me there was no SW action done by me, but I have some advice.

…. First I was at a RESORT, and there are a variety of HOTEL ATTENDANTS that are more than willing to get you any thing you want from women any size to gonja. The hotel/resort are full of room attentands that are willing to do a few extras for a price … lets say $20 for FS, but it has to be quick … nothing long for they might get caught. NOT every room servant does this, say don’t screw up and ask the wrong one. ASK a male hotel/ resort person first. If you are with a female as I was, there is even less chance, for these resort jobs are GOLD to the Jamaicans, and they want to keep them at all cost.

ANYWAY …. More of the ladies at the resort won’t do anything on resort/ hotel property, but if you caught a cab to their place, they might be willing to service you, if you can SHUT THE HELL UP, WHEN YOU RETURN, AND RESPECT THEM WHILE AT WORK.

…. Still, any halfway decent looking man can get it for “FREE” just by being NICE DECENT, AND VERY RESPECTFUL.
“RESPECT IS EVERYTHING IN JAMAICA, and being disrespectful, can get you “KILLED” quickly.

…. As for the SW, you will need to get off the land, and they do not just walk the street as we are accustom. So just stay off the street … this country has “REAL THUGS/ BADDTY BOYZ” NOT homeboy wanna be’s . This boyz can be rough, and the Police are NO DAMN HELP. SW, IF NOT LEGAL, BUT ONE IS EVER ARRESTED FOR IT, HASSLED, or STOPPED. THE POLICE has enough to do.
…. The going rate at the resorts and better hotels are $50-$100. If you get an attendant to do it for you, you want not have to deal with trouble. Then you will pay $40-50per for the girl, $20 for the attendant, $5-10 for passing her through security, and have your own condoms. Buy the GOOD TROJANS at home (USA).
…. YOU will have to tell the attendant exactly what you want in a woman, for Jamaican men like big women. I saw some super fine, thin, great body women at the resort who worked there. If I were alone I an certain 3 of the 7 I saw I could have had “FREE” sax with. The whole duration I was there.
….If you go to Jamaica they speak English, but they speak very fast, and they in incomplete sentence, so you who be speaking “WHAT DID YOU SAY, EXCUSE ME A LOT” ????? Have them slow down.

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Dear WORDUP:
Thanks for your post, I've been in Jamaica several times during the last ten years, and your comments are 100% on target (including the recommendation to bring your own condoms with you).

You are also correct in noting that Jamaican men have different taste in women than American men. One night a taxi driver in Kingston tried to hook me up with a butt-ugly "pyramid" girl, that is, flat-chested, medium waist, but a 5-foot-wide butt. All he cared about was that her butt was huge, so I had to explain to him that I wanted a prettier girl who had nice titties as well as a nice butt.

I noticed in the Tenessee section that some other posters were suspicious of you. Please keep posting, and don't let the nay-sayers get you down. But I must say that I am glad that you stopped posting in "all caps"!

Peace, bro

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hey might sopearman,


as for caps here are a few .... just kidding !!!!

.... yea those playa hater in tenn. don't get out much, so their worlds are extremely limited. thus there sex life is the same. they are the kind of guys who will pay hundred for a piece of ass, get ripped off, cry about it, and go home to there ugly ass wives.

.... i am glad you like the report, and enjoy my post. one thing i did not mention is if at all possible, "do not drive" and if possble "stay off the roads", even mini buses and taxi's. the roads are just tooooo narrow, and drive speed like crazy. while there just going to, and coming from the resort to the airport there were 4 accidents, two very bad, on the same road.
it is too dangerous to be on jamaica's roads.

.... whatever you need, ask it to be brought to you. they will serve you like a king for a price. and the will be well worth it. don't be a big spender, and start low. only the most trusted, should be rewarded with more money.

....... never pay in advance for a girl to be brought to you. you run the risk of loosing your money, or her not being allowed on the property. if you must give up money only give $10-15-20 to start the process.

....... jamaica is a very poor country, so "no" woman should cost you more than $50, for the whole night .... not for one nut, or for an hour. if that is the case, sismiss her, and sent them both packing.
still, make certain the attendant understands fully what you want, and what you will pay, or not pay.

remember .... if you are at the resort they think of you as being a rich american, and they see "american dollar signs $$$ !!!!

.... common sense may not be common, but use it anyway !!!!


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Here's what I found while in MB, Jamaica:

I was only there for a couple of days and spent an evening at Pier One. I just checked the website and it says the place is closed for renovations so you may want to check to see if they've reopened before going.

Pier One was a busy bar/dance club and I had a blast. I caught a girl with her hand in my front pocket but unfortunately, she was gripping my wallet and not my member...This reminds me - don't have anything of value on you - watches, jewelry, etc., or more money than you plan on spending that evening.

There were some attractive black ladies out near the parking lot that seemed pretty happy and animated as they spoke to passers-by so I thought I'd go see what was going on. When I approached a tall fox came up to me for a chat and fondled my dick while giving me an impressive cleavage shot. Although this was a real "sperm of the moment" decision, I decided to go behind a small shack for a quick covered bj. We had settled on $20.00 Canadian, which is about $12.00 US.

Unfortunately, I was a little unsettled by the location as it was a little too public. Also the girl continued to negotiate for a bigger tip in between sucks - first time I've ever negotiated DURING sex. To top it off, another SW stormed around the corner before we were finished and wanted to know if I was interested in a 3-some. As I was already wary of the location, disappointed in the continuing negotiation and then freaked by the sudden 3rd party, I decided it was best to cut my losses and unpopped my cock from her mouth - this is also a first timer for me.

The evening wasn't a total loss though. On my way home, there was a cute black chick walking ahead of me. She slowed down so that soon we were walking side by side. We struck up a conversation and as I passed my hotel, I casually asked her if she wanted to come up with me. She replied "really?" which is always a pretty good sign. It turned out that she was walking home from a restaurant job.

I had my valuables well hidden in the room so I wasn't too worried about her when I went to the bathroom. She cleaned herself up as well and we had a great fuckfest for the rest of the evening. In the morning, I noticed that some of the bills I had on the dresser were missing. It was a minor rip-off, only ten bucks or so, but still a rip-off. Disappointing but she gave me a great massage and some shower sex which sort of made up for her minor indiscretion. When I was sending her home, she asked for cab fare and I said "I think you've already helped yourself..."
She got the picture.

At the airport, I was on a charter flight and everone was swapping stories about the petty theft, pickpockets, etc. The message here is that you REALLY have to watch yourself here in Mo Bay but the poontang is available...

Whistle

Hey Guys,

I'm going to Jamaica in a few weeks. Please tell me which spot is the best. Montego Bay or Negril. Also, I need to know if the hotels are girl friendly. Also, do Jamaican women generally tend to have big round booties, or do they tend to be on the tall thin side? I'd appreciate any help on this matter.

Thanks

Either is fine, but remember that both are the two most heavily touristed towns in Jamaica. What you get with this are lots of hookers but also lots of annoying hustlers, gridlock traffic, packed restaurants, and high prices. No matter, you will still have an awesome time in either place if hitting some big black booty is the reason you're coming to Jamaica.

I never had a problem bringing a girl back to a motel/hotel in Jamaica, however I rarely did so. I usually took care of business at her place (could be dangerous) or in the back of the strip clubs.

The girls themselves will know which hotels are allowable for this type of thing - I would avoid the all-inclusive places as these tend to frown upon hookers because of all the families there. Also, it's a good idea to go to a crap motel or her place as it is not unknown for these girls to go rifling through your wallet/luggage when you're taking a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] or having a shower in your room.

About the booty, you will see all shapes and sizes, but the vast majority are big-assed. My favorite are the girls who have an average/thin frame but have a monster bubble butt sticking out the back - go-go girls in Jamaica usually have this body type. Also, last but certainly not least, Jamaica is probably one of the easiet and best countries in the world when it comes to getting anal sex.

Enjoy the booty Bagra.

Thanks Barebackobb,

I'm very excited about Jamaica now after your rave reviews and talk of big booties. Can't wait. I have one question however. How can I avoid the tourists traps? Being a Black man, can I blend in better with the locals and possibly go places where obvious tourists might not? Also, anyadvice on where to go in Negril upon arrival? I don't want to waste any time. Good looking out.

bagra:

my advice on how to avoid tourist traps is to be smarter than the average tourist. what i do whenever i go to another country is i first go to my local public library and borrow the most current lonelyplanet guidebook on the country where i'm going to. these books are the best as they are geared towards budget travellers, though all price ranges are represented. these books, combined with the online sex guide forums will get you the most bang for your buck. i brought the 2003 lonelyplanet jamaica guide with me on my last trip in august and saved $25 by borrowing it from the library instead of buying it. it's got good maps showing where the most reasonably priced non-tourist trap places are and all kinds of other useful stuff. plus, eating where locals eat will save you lots of money, but is really delicious and filling.

in my opinion, you being black will not help you or hurt you - you will essentially be recognized by the locals as another tourist, either immediately by the way you dress or whenever they hear you speak. if someone mistakes you for being a local they'll say something to you in patois, which 9 times out of 10 you will not understand due to it being said rapidly and the fact that's it the local slang. once they see that you're a foreigner they'll smile and speak standard english to you - they're really some of the friendliest people you'll ever meet. however, there are places in jamaica, especially kingston and the bigger towns, where even locals don't go. beware, as there's gang turf and other crap going on in some of these areas, so be careful and don't wander aimlessly, especially at night.

i'm posting a report i found at another site in the negril section of this site. it's some real good info. also, read some of my reports on other areas of jamaica if you intend on visiting these. tap some of that big booty for me bagra and pop it up the poopshoot if you can, however you'll need to bring your own lube for that though.

Looking for some help! I am planning a little family vacation and wondering if there is good places to take a family ages 5, 7, 13, 16 and the wife to have family fun in Jamaica.? Beach and tour stuff? But also is there any day time action that a father can go have some fun on his own? M.P., Bars and Short time house? What are some good places to stay? Any help would be great?

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in your situation, in the daytime, your only option might be enlist the help of one of the many hustlers that can be found in montego bay and every other resort town in jamaica. preferably talk to one that's young as he will usually have better connections to the younger, hotter girls. hustlers can get you anything you want, but make sure to negotiate hard before you set off on what his tip will be. they know all the hidden crap motels where you can take your girl as well. just tell him your preferences (really big ass, really dark, tall/short, etc.) and he'll find it for you. alternatively, you could get a cab driver to do the same thing. if you are free at night go to any one of the strip clubs in town - all the girls there are available for takeout or for backroom action. prices can vary from usd $30-100. try some anal there jim. jamaica is the #1 place in the world for pooper popping.

There seems to be some serious confusion out there. Too many destinations have been suggested as best for anal sex. Do you refer to:
1- Widespread Availability
2- Excitment from butt shape
3- Ease of Entry in the hole
4- Female excitement about it

Places like cuba, brazil, venezuela, peru and india have been pointed out as top destination in for anal bliss. A female brazilian friend told me above 50% of regular girl do it therefore I assume that around 75% working girl offer it. Here we are speaking of widespread availability.
Cuban girls have been said the be the freakiest of the area. here we are speaking of #4. Indian do cultural cleaning habits (#3) are good choices. Could you be more explicit about Jamaica, since It would be cheaper for me to go there compare to my planned destination: Brazil.

jamaica is an incredibly ass-focused country. if you talk to the locals there they will tell you that a huge ass is beautiful and ideal for a woman to possess such an ass. the majority of jamaican men prefer the big, huge assed women over the skinny ones anyway. at the discos and strip clubs the girls wear outfits that accentuate their big asses like daisy dukes, super tight pants, and "baddy rider" shorts. also most jamaican women are not top heavy so don't expect a big rack on these girls. however they make up for it in the ass department big time.

all the women in jamaica i've been with have been open to anal action. all you have to do is pay attention to their ass by squeezing and kissing their big cheeks, and even licking their asshole and they will plead for you to pump that poopshoot. anal availability from strippers and street girls is 100%. regular girls: 2 out of 3 is my guess for getting anal action. don't forget to pack your lube.

Guys, I don't know where you get your information from. But Jamaica is not the anal paradise some people have been making it out to be. It's just as difficult to get ass action there as anywhere else.

You also always need to travel with your lube in the event someone says yes. That's about a 2 in 10 chance! Though they have beautiful bubble-butts, most Jamaican girls do not take it in the ass.

I am a full fledge ass-man. I know the score in that place. Booty pumping yes, but not as abundant as some guys claim.

Alan

Just wanted to say thanks to everyone who posted info. I'm checking out Montgeo Bay in 2 weeks and this info helps me out a lot.

I was looking for some kind of update on MoBay before my trip this week but had to risk the search on my own.

I had a really nice time in MoBay this week. Stayed at the Half Moon but did not see and action there - really did not expect any but you never can tell. Arrived on Sunday but did not venture to far from the Hotel need to prepare for business meeting the next day.

But Monday nite was a different story. Ventured to the Hip Strip down town near the casino and Margeritaville. Went into the casino to see what was happening and saw quite a few fine woman there but was uncertain as to who/how to approach with all the security and cameras in the place. Anyway, I watched a few ladies enter, play the slots, leave and return. Got tired of this and went outside and walked down the steet to the XTatic stip club. There were several ladies outside ready to make my aquaintance. One that I had met (but not fucked) on my trip back in October. She was really trying to make a score with me but just not what I wanted. A little early for the club so I walked back to the casino for another look and a beer. And spotted a chocolate bubble butt honey that I was interested in meeting. I tried to make conversation while she was at the slots but not much happening. Left and went back to strip club. Had a few propositions on the way but declined until I was ready to head back to the hotel. Watched some nice honeys on stage for about an hour. Then walks in my chocolate bunny from the casino. She sat around and watched me for a while until I finally asked her over. Intro was done (her name is Jennifer), bought her a drink and she did a nice grinding dance for me. Wanted me to take her back to the room with me and I abliged. $50 for the rest of the nite and a wonderful nite it was.

Man, Jamaica is the "Motherland" of the chocolate honeys in my book. Can't wait to get back there next month.

Hey pilgrims, are there motorbikes for rent in Jamaica ? And whats the cheapest anyone has seen FS, how about MP's?



Thanks,Chango

A Toda Maqiuna,

There are motorbikes for rent in Mbay. I'd be wary of renting a bike though. Jamaicans are pretty mad drivers. I believe I remember there was a place outside Club Xtatic that rents scooters and small bikes during the day. Sorry I can't give more details but I was focused more on the nocturnal activites going on there :-)

The girls would spend the night for around $7000 jamaican. (5k for the girl, 2k for the club). Not exactly cheap, but worth it IMO

There is an MP on Queen's Rd. I went during the day, but I was told, it's open 24 hours. At the airport roundabout, Queens Rd is the road before the Hip Strip exit. About 1/4 mile up the hill, there's a cafe/bar to the right, with a great view of the Ocean. The building to the left of it is the MP. The entrance is under the porch over the drive.

The mamasan gives you a lineup of all the girls there. There were about 6 of varying appearance, all in their early 20s. After the lineup you get a menu of various services priced in USD. They also have an option to take the girl the night for 100 USD. Sex isn't mentioned but it is definitely what you get.

I picked a girl called Kerry-Ann and paid for $80 for some sort of package. I ended up getting a shower with her, a decent massage, sex, a handjob and got Kerry-Ann off with my hand. It all lasted around 90 mins and I gave her a $16 tip. I'm not sure she expected anything but I was happy with the experience.

Montego Bay

Has no one been here since May 04? The last report was lame. Just a hand job for 80.00? Whats up with that?

I have a trip planed to Montego Bay in a couple of months. I hope we can see some reports before then, if not I will be the one that lets you know whats going on in Montego Bay.

LK

I have not been to the island for 8 years now. I am going back again in January and am briming with excitment! I always had a good time when I went to both MoBay and Negril.

I always spend my first few day's in Montego Bay, hitting the hip strip and my favourite place the Royal Palm (strip club). The Royal Palm can be kind of rough, very local, many times I was the only white guy in the place. Being the only tourist in a place has it's advantages though if you know what I mean.

I then make my way to Negril where the beach is beautiful and the women are sexy. I never have trouble in that town, just stay off the resorts and hit the local establishments, the girls abound!
I really hope things have not changed too much.

Here is a little sample from 8 years back

It looks like the picture did not come through, here she is.

Ramesses,

Thank you for your follow up. I do appreciate it. I know hip road and am staying in a hotel on the same road. I will give the board my report and hope it helps all. Thats what its all about.

Till then take care.

LK

First I would like to thank Rock Dog for his pics. Next I want to thank WU Warrior for his knowledge on Hip Strip. It was right on. Thats where the action was. I found it the second night I was there. Granted the first night, was really a late arrival so I had no opportunity to find out.

Bless you guys both, your an asset to the board. I will be sending my report in the next couple of days on my visit to Montego Bay, Jamaica.

LK

This report is for information about travel to Mo Bay. Arrived at the Mo Bay airport in the evening. The plane was almost full, so lots of people there, exited the plane in normal time. No problem heading to the baggage claim, bags came out quickly. Now to customs, about 15 to 20 minutes to get through, again no problems.

Head to the hotels info center in the airport, check in and after 2 minutes they come to transport us to the hotel. Total time from landing to hotel drop off about 45 minutes, not bad.

The hotel is nice, all inclusive, the attitudes of the staff are very professional. Its getting late but still lots going on. There is a fashion show at the pool, with DJ comentary. Next comes the toga party at the pool after the fashion show. Everyone is invited up to the disco room for the continuation of the toga party. Its open till 3:00 am and the party was good.

I had been here a total of 4 hours, and already, I have had 20 free drinks, food, fashion show, and ended with a sexy party in the upstairs disco. Not bad for the first night of my first visit to Mo Bay.

We got in late and there were mostly couples at the hotel. No time for checking out the local street scene. Its an exclusive hotel so they do not let in people from the street. But I have had a great time in just the few hours I have been here. As I said, 20 drinks, 2 meals, shows and disco's in the first 4 hours, cost, $3.00 tip to the airport driver. Not bad, life is good.

LK

As I was only in Montego Bay for 3 nights and one of them has already passed with just having fun at the hotel, I needed to make the most of what time I had left.

The day starts out busy, head half way to Ochos Rios for 2 dives. The dive center is at a family resort. We get checked in, complete the paper work and off to the boat. We don't travel far, maybe 1/2 mile offshore and set anchor. Complete the first dive with not special occurances, lots of current though, which is unusual for Jamaica.

Head back to shore, take a 1 hour break, get new tanks and off again to the boat. I have to remind the captain to make sure and bring some Red Stripe on board for after the dive, he did. Completed the second dive, same as the first, nothing out of the ordinary, but a nice relaxing dive. Break out the Red Stripe's and head to shore.

Back to Mo Bay, hit the resort, eat, drink, drink, drink, drink. There are regee dance lessons going on now at the pool side, mostly every thing happens at the pool side. These little brown girls have no bones, not a bone in their body when it comes to dancing, damn they are good & it was quite the show.

Next its off to Hip Strip, thats the name of the road where everything is, (including our hotel) shopping, restuarants, casino & Jimmy Buffets Margaritaville. We shop and stroll, stroll and shop. Hit Mararitaville for a few drinks then across the street to the casino. It only has slot machines and the winning percentage is about 1%, so if you go don't play much. But there is a nice bar, and band area there.

Its evening time and back to the hotel. Guess what, yep ur right, we eat & drink, drink, drink & drink. Total extra cost by now, aside from the hotel, about $20.00. I have drank for 14 hours and eaten at least 6 times. No charge. I don't remember what the theme was for the second night we were there, didn't matter, I have a vengence now to find the pussy in Mo Bay tonight. Its about 10:00 PM and I tell my fellow travelers I am off to discover Hip Strip & leave them at the hotel.

I will continue this story at a later date, I really don't like long posts. This is enough for now, but the night time activities for tonight will follow. Peace out as they say in Jamaica.

LK

Well its about 10:00 PM and I have managed to escape the rest of my party. They are going to stay at the hotel and enjoy the festivities planned for the night. Me, I am headed out to find the more pleasurable things Mo Bay has to offer.

With a tiny bit of information in hand I head down Gloucester Ave, known as "Hip Strip". For the first quarter mile or so its mostly tourist shops a few restaurant's and hotels. I was told that Margueritaville Bar & Grill was the place to be, its down Hip Stip about a half mile easy walk.

I end up at Margueritaville, sit at the down stairs bar for a bit, have a drink or 2 then check out the open air bar upstairs. There are two completely different crowds here I find out. At about 11:00 PM the down stairs turns into a DJ disco for young kids ages from what I can tell about 18 to 25. There are no tables, no chairs, just standind and dancing. There is a band upstairs for the more laid back older crowd from 25 to 50 years old. They do have tables and chairs & bar stools.

I camp out upstairs for a bit listening to the band, ask the bartender if any Mo Bay girls who like to play come up here, he says yea just wait a bit. Well I wait a couple of hours and no action at all. At least no P4P action. I head to the open railing facing the street, directly across is the casino (Coral Cliff Gaming Room) they have a band that plays there also. While I am enjoying my drink and looking across the street below, I can see what is now some action. About 5 to 10 street walkers in a 2 to 3 block area. Yo Mon, I have hit gold now. Let the games begin.

I head down stairs for a stroll, I walk across the street just to do some trolling. Walk one way up the block, get hit on 3 times, come back down the block and get hit on 2 more times. I want to do some more shopping so I just head up the stairs into the casino to kill a couple of minutes then head back down to the street to check out the other direction down the block.

Immediatly upon returning to the sidewalk, I see her, and the one I will fuck tonight comes running over. The chit chat starts, hi baby, how are you. Fine dear you? Good she says, you want any company tonight she asks, I respond maybe, we will see. The negotiations begin, how much I ask for BBBJ & 3 position covered sex. She tells me $100.00 (All quotes will be in US Dollars) plus $30.00 for the room. I counter with $50.00 she says I will do it for $50.00 but no room. Puzzled I ask, no room? She says yea I have a spot around the corner, no one will see us & I do not have a pimp who will bother us.

Not knowing Mo Bay at all, I really do not want to go around the corner, behind the wall and in back of the bushes for my first time, I decline the $50.00 counter offer. And opt for the hotel. Now the minor problem of this story begins. When I first begin my trolling a local comes up to me and says, I will help you, what you want, I just bullshit him along and keep walking. He follows me all around, till I ditch him going up to the casino. But when I return back down right before I meet my hot little chocolate bunny for the night, he is back again. As she comes running over he seems to think he is the one that set us up and wants money for his help.

We both tell him no, go away and start walking towards the hotel. He follows & now there are 2 of them. They are probably about 20 years old so I am not worried to much but he just wont give up. We stop the argument gets very confrontational now, voices are raised, I tell him fuck you, get the fuck out of here. I am loud and in his face. The girl is talking to him in the local dialect telling him she is calling her gansta friends and to get the fuck out of there or they will fuck him up. In a flash 2 guys in a car pull along side the road and she starts talking to them. The tell these kids something and they finally starts to walk the other way, the car leave and we continue on. Walking the opposite direction towards the $30.00 hotel.

But when the car leaves he & his buddy return again, we argue again and I really want to punch him out but decide its probably not the best thing to do, I am in his country. She gets on the phone again, and in a flash the same care returns, she talks to them, they talk to the punks. The punks finally leave again. Now we have walked way past the $30.00 hotel by now trying to get rid of these punks. So I decide to bring her to my hotel even I know its gonna cost me a pretty high guest charge. But for sure I know they will not let these 2 punks past the gate.

Its a good thing I decided to do this, we get to the gates of my hotel and guess who is there? Yep your right, its the 2 punks. I just grab her and walk past the security guards telling them those guys are bothering us and not to let them in. The guards take care of my problem.

I have rambled on a long time here now with this story, so I will end it for now and finish the sexual exploits of the night in my next post. Just trying to let everyone know what happened and to be prepared for things you may never think you will have to deal with. Always be prepared for the unexpected. But I have to hand it to Shanika (My date) she took care of the situation. At lease she bought us enough time to make it to the hotel with no problems. Day 2, part 3 to follow. Peace out.

LK

Ok, I have made it to the hotel with Shanika, she is a local from Mo Bay, my little brown chocolate girl. About 5'-2" tall with out heels, 36D tits, has a child 2 years old and still producing milk, 25" waist & bless her a 38" ass, tight, and not to big, but it sticks out just right. gotta love them Jamaican asses.

I check her in, we head to the bar, get a drink and go up stairs, no problem, thats what we are here for, she is a trooper. We strip, hit the bed, she starts with a very good BBBJ, balls included. I am playing with her big natural tits while she is sucking me, damn her nipples are over 1" long when they get excited.

We go to 69 and I suck that black/pink pussy, she loves it, grinds it in my mouth while she is still sucking my BB cock.

Now she pulls up, grabs the condom opens it and tells me she wants to give me a taste of Jamaica. She puts the condom on me, gets on top of me and starts a real good cowgirl fucking.

She fucks me good, great moves and pussy control. I pull her down where I can suck on those big tits, and let me tell you she is full of milk. Suck her milk from each tit, kinda different the taste, but if she is gonna give it up, I want to try it.

I ask her whats her favorite position, she responds to my satisfaction, DOGGY, hehehee, damn I love doggy. I tell her to roll over, she never misses a beat. Puts that nice chocolate ass in the ailr for me, and I enter her.

I start fucking her as hard as I can and she beggs for more. I am spanking her ass now while fucking her, and she loves it. Damn life is good. After a bit I roll her on her side and continue to fuck her in the spoon position. Now I have made it as far as I can, to hot to go any longer. I bust a good nut after 1 hour of fucking this little chocolate sweety.

We get dressed, I walk her down stairs to the street, we say goodby, say lets meet tomorrow. We will see. Thats another story.

Lion Killer,

Had a similar experience some years ago in Montego Bay. However, anal was offered. I did not resist. Much better than the Jamaican bubble butt is the Jamaican bubble butt with a fat cock in it. Set me back 30 bucks at the time.

Alan

Alan,

I could not agree with you more. I love a bubble butt with a dick in it too. But It was not offered, damn, well maybe next trip.

Day 3 began the same as day 2, hit the dive shop, got in two more nice dives. Went sight seeing for a couple of hours. There is some interesting history in Jamaica.

Back to the hotel, eat, drink, drink, drink & drink some more. All-Inclusive is the way to go. Head out shopping again with the crew, its our last day here so gotta get everything today. Pick up a few shirts, trinkets & lots of liquor. Actually paid $10.00 (again I talk in US dollars) for a liter of Absolute Vodka, just checked the store here, its $24.00.

Back to the hotel, eat, drink, drink, drink and drink some more. Its nearing 10:00 PM again, and my party is going upstairs to the disco for the pajama party. I ditch them again, and head back down Hip Strip. Stopped by Marguertaville, they wanted a $10.00 cover charge, beings I got absolutely nothing out of there last night I declined. And kept moving.

While shopping earlier, I saw a strip bar down Gloucester Ave. so I headed there. I think the name was the House of Dolls or something like that. You can't miss it, its on the left hand side of the road heading south about 1/2 mile past Margueritaville. I think the cover charge was around $5.00 to $6.00. Paid the cover and went upstairs.

To my surprise there were about 10 dancers there and 8 of them were white women. Now I am not in Jamaica to fuck white women, so I just get a coke and look around a bit. There are two chocolate dancers but not my type, they were talllllllllllllllll, about 6'-0" with heels. I like 5'-0" spinners. But there was the "room in the back" so P4P was available. I declined finished my coke and left.

Headed back up Hip Strip to see what the SW scene was. Went up the street once and back down once. Its early about 11:00 pm, did not see anything I liked so I went back up to the Coral Cliff Casino to see if anything could be pulled out of there. Lots of women there but no players.

Back down to Hip Strip, check out the SW again. There are now a couple of hotties out and really hustling as I walk by. Grabbing my arm, smacking my ass as I walk by. BUt I am beat, have slept about 6 hours in 2 days and did not feel like going through all the negotiations, find the hotel, ect, ect. But I did have my ace in the hole already just in case.

The taxi driver at the hotel had offered to bring me to a massage parlor last night where you could get what you wanted for a price add on. I just wanted to lay back and get my dick sucked, so I headed back to the hotel to find my cabbie.

He was there, we negotiate, he wants $30.00 to bring me there, wait an hour and bring me back, I counter with $25.00 and he grabs it. Off we go, up to what is called Top Road, its called Top Road I find out cause its the road on top of the town. You can actually see Mo Bay below as you drive.

We pull up to the Rejuvination Center, thats the actual name of the massage parlor. I tell him to come in with me, I really don't know how things work here. He says no problem. We walk in and find ourselves standing on what seems to be a balcony. The Madaam comes over and asks what I want. I tell her massage. She tells this one girl to go down stairs and tell the girls to roll call.

Momma tells me to remember the name of the one you like. One by one a girl comes out from behind a curtain below, looks up, tells her name and disapears. There is quite a selection. About 12 came through, and it was a nice selection. I chose the one I liked, she came upstairs. The Madaam handed me a menu to choose the type of massage I wanted. Knowing the rules from parlors around the world I grabbed the cheapest one, $30.00. Off we go to the room.

I strip, she strips, a little chocolate bunny my type, 5'-0" 115 lbs, and nice butt. She tell me roll on my stomach and starts a typical massage, nothing to write home about. We chit chat and finally get into asking if she offers other services that are not on the menu. She said sure, what would you like.

Like I said I am dead tired and all I want to do is lay back and get my dick sucked. I ask her how much for full service to check the pricing she quotes me $100.00, I tell her I don't have that much cash (they did take visa, hahhaa). So I said I only have $50.00 she offered CBJTC for that amount. I took it, I just want to nut and sleep.

She was very good, nice approach, nice lips. Let me play with her tits all I wanted and also play with her pussy as long as I did not try to enter her with my fingers. I made her work for it, took a full 30 minutes of sucking before I did cum. After she brought out warm towels, cleaned me up and laid next to me allowing me to play with her nice bubble Jamaican ass. Lightly spanking and running. Five minutes later, we dress, kiss, and leave the room.

My cabbie is there waiting for me as promised. Off to the hotel we go. Its 2:00 AM and again have to be up at 6:00 AM to get ready to leave. I had a great time. Flight & All-Inclusive hotel, 3 nights = $690.00. Fucking, licking, spanking & getting sucked by beautiful brown island girls "Priceless". I will return.

LK

I am going there next, I guess you are talking about little place on hill overlooking the HIP strip.

Have you heard of any new places over there?

Yardy,

Thats the only massage place I went to, its on whats called Top Road, just ask the cab drivers at what ever hotel your staying at. They know them all and will be glad to bring you there for the fare and a tip to wait till your done. But negotiate the cost of the cab fare back and forth first & the cost of the standby time. Wish you luck I am jealous.

LK

Hi Lion Killer, it was fun reading your report since I know the scene.

I think though that in the future, you will find it can be much better than what you experienced.

Coincidently, this past trip I made it to the rejunvenation center. I just went for the basic 30 dollar special (hj). I figured that was better than a condom bj especially at the price.

I enjoy the stroll down to the hip strip at night too. But I generally don't bite there.

I switched over to Negril most of the time now.

Thanks for your comments, all are appreciated. But I went to Montego Bay by myself, the board had no information. I found the places by myself, and being my first time there I think I did ok.

I loved Hip Strip, lots of girls, lots of hotties, we all have our different opinions. I will return to Montego again, and next time I have my experiences to help me out. I will again visit Hip Strip, as I stay in hotels there.

Negril is to far away for me. Thanks for your comments. Take care and hope to see you in Montego Bay one day.

LK

Going to the club, but I want to get away when I am there. I am dying to sample some Jamican booty.

As I have stayed in the all inclusives before, I never had any luck with the workers on staff. Has anyone had luck with that, or was I just not asking the right ones.

Can I get away from the resort and find anything close by? I guess this is near Trelawny, what is that about.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Davegdb

Sorry Dave, but I have only been to Montego Bay. Wish you luck in your search.

Hopefully, I will have some good reports for you when I get back.

Boys, The resorts are certainly not the spot. This one in particular is very difficult to get off of and any any action is well over an hour away. If anyone has any advice, let me know, I am here for a few more days.

Davegdb

The only thing I can suggest is go to Montego Bay. Get the hell out of where ever you are at.

Anyone been to Hedonism III ? Worthwhile for a single guy?

No.

Ignore the fake posts about going there as a single guy, because it may be a hit or miss. I have been to both Hedo II and Hedo III with lady friends and I can assure you that it will not be a DR experience.

On the other hand, I have scored other chicks there a couple of times, but it was in an orgy setting when i brought someone to the party.

In short, it is not a free for all at Hedo, we just go there and have erotic fun.

Hello All,

I will be down in Montego Bay in about two weeks. I'm staying on Gloucester Ave near the action - will (as always) post of my experiences and discoveries!

I have always had "a thing" for Jamaican women. I think they're very sexy and very attractive, but to tell you the truth despite having taken nearly 25 international trips - I don't remember ever having slept with one. :(
(I think this is gonna change)

Any little tips or advice would be appreciated. I want to give a huge "shout out" to Lion Killer for his detailed and enjoyable reports. Great info mate, thanks! :)

cheers,
FORD

guys,

the pros in the montego bay area are all very aggressive and have their eyes on one thing only - money. as an anal hunter i have been conned more than once by women claiming that they never gave a commitment to give up the ass.

one thing, though, they have some of the most juicy wonderful rumps. see them in action at the go-go clubs and you can cream yourself just seeing them move.

it's not that easy though to get them to accommodate your cock in their sweet, fat asses. you might find to your surprise that it is the slimmer, skinnier ladies who would more readily take it up the pooper than the fat ass ones.

pussy is there for the taking for anywhere between 50 and 60 bucks if you don't play big-spender. but dont worry they will start at 100. negotiate downwards for all our sakes please!

alan

[quote=alan]guys,

the pros in the montego bay area are all very aggressive and have their eyes on one thing only - money. as an anal hunter i have been conned more than once by women claiming that they never gave a commitment to give up the ass.

one thing, though, they have some of the most juicy wonderful rumps. see them in action at the go-go clubs and you can cream yourself just seeing them move.

it's not that easy though to get them to accommodate your cock in their sweet, fat asses. you might find to your surprise that it is the slimmer, skinnier ladies who would more readily take it up the pooper than the fat ass ones.

pussy is there for the taking for anywhere between 50 and 60 bucks if you don't play big-spender. but dont worry they will start at 100. negotiate downwards for all our sakes please!

alan[/quote]

i for one, promise to do my part not to run up prices. no matter how juiced you are for a girl we all most remember we have the ability just to walk away...............;)

I have a question. Why does the Montego bay board have 42 posts and the Santo Domingo board has 1400?

Now don't get me wrong SDQ is still me favorite place on the planet earth but MoBay is awesome!! Great food, great drinks, great girls, great people!

So far my vacation here has been slightly different than Lion Killer's. My vacay has been smoke, smoke, smoke, drink, drink, drink, women, women, women ..........eat a small plate of jerk chicken.

I prefer to monegr in Spanish so this is an interesting experience for me but if you are limited in Espanol this destination may be the perfect escape for you. Women are everywhere, cheap and fun.

There is a place here called Margaritaville - this is a great place to explore for all you newbies, regular members and shy/nervous types. For all you "master" mongers avoid this over-priced, over-hyped tourist-trap at all costs. You are too smart to be taken in by this dump! This is the home of the $4.50 beer and $10 cheeseburger.

Get a driver and get yourself into the center of Montego Bay. If the driver tries to shake you down, "can him" and get another. They are also everywhere!

EVERYTHING is available here and cheap. So far I am paying absolutely no more than 2000 dollars Jamaican or about $32 for all night, and I'm being generous. All girls ask for 6,000 or $95, but just laugh and wave them off.

51 Market Street is the place. 22 girls available last night and that was a Tuesday!

Much more info to come mates...........

cheers,
FORD

ford, do you really expect us to believe this? i know you, and i know you always give an accurate description of a destination, so i don't doubt you for a minute, but the others will need pictures to back up your obvious altered state. you will be happy to know that i have included four destinations in my winter schedule so far, and hold tickets already to three of them. hey, have you heard about this paradise place?

Ford,

I agree. Jamaica is great. I always stay at the Gloustershire, right in the middle of the Hip strip.

Smokables are everywhere, but check out the rasta selling jewelry from a small little table on the side of the sidewalk. He is usually there with an old woman that sells fruit. He has some awesome herb and if you get to know him, you get the rasta price. I usually pay 20-30 US for more than I can smoke in a week. (and I am chronic)

Girls are everywhere. I have never taken a SW in Jamaica. There are too many willing locals for free as well as some hot touristas. Get the touristas high and all inhibitions fade away.

You have to understand Jamaican women to score with a local. The ones that come on to you are only looking for $$$. But if a waitress gets REAL shy around you and and quickly looks away if you look her in the eye that means she is interested. Sweet talk her and she is yours. They LOVE being complemented and get really embarrassed when you do say how pretty they are. The more she drops her eyes down when you sweet talk her...the better your chances.

I agree that M-ville is a rip off. It cost me almost US30 for some jerk pork and a few red Stripes. But if you get out of town and find a jerk pit that caters to locals you'll get better jerk and larger portions for around 5 - 7 bux including beer. But, M-ville is a great place to pick up touristas and fine local women. They won't let SWs in there and it is too pricy for the poor girls so you get the middle and upper class local gals...and they are the best. I found one that spent a whole weekend with me and she even bought a couple of the meals. She was a 21 year old spinner with a booty to die for. and yes, I plugged that too.

One really funny SW story. I was hanging out at the bar at the hotel and there were 6 touristas that wanted to go to M-ville but were afraid to go alone so I offered to escort them. We hung out there and danced and had a good time. When we were about to leave, they did the group trip to the bathroom thing and I waited for them outside. Well of course as soon as I got outside, the SWs were all over me. I kept asking them how much they would pay ME and they just laughed. So I told them that in a few minutes I would be surrounded by beautiful women that would all go to the hotel with me. They laughed even harder. Soon come my flock of tourista chicas and they all start hugging and kissing me and we head on down the street. For the rest of that week, all the SWs and street higglers gave me the big eyes and treated me with respect and awe. Oh yeah, I had 3 of the turistas that nite.

Jamaica is my favorite island. I love the culture and the people. P4P mongering is better in the Dutch islands but freebees abound in Jamaica if you play your cards right.

Pogo

if you walk down the hip strip, and you are alone, white, and an obvious tourist you will receive more whistles and "catcalls" than a blonde walking past a construction site.

"hello, my friend, "hello my friend!"

on the hip strip you will be asked if you would like to buy women, cigars, cd's, sunglasses, coke, crack, crank, "h" and just about anything that can be loaded into a bong pipe.........but here is a little move that i just caught onto.

"hello my friend, its o.k. man, i'm the waiter from your hotel"

now i've been here for 5 days and i have had a total of exactly one meal at my hotel. its was a plate of jerk ribs, with rice and beans, salad and a red stripe beer. i remember the waiter he was a tall guy named dennis.

since then i have been stopped by 12 guys all telling saying to me "hello, my friend don't you remmber me?" "i'm your waiter from your hotel"

i finally stopped today and asked "now, which hotel would that be?" the guy just smiled and said "its just a figure of speech, you know" (lol)

oh brother................:(

SW's - all over the hip strip Gloucester Ave. Start milling around about 8:00 pm out till around 3am. They start lining up from the Hotel Wexford near Margaritaville all the way down to Tony's Pizza near the turn for the airport.

Girls ask for 4,000 jamaican but will quickily come down to 2,500 jam or $40 to make the deal. Heavy rain last night thanks to hurricane Wilma, but still 50+ girls out and about. (negotiate, negotiate, negotiate)


SC's - The Club Las Vegas - located at 211 Market St. 14 girls available last night mostly 6's and 7's. No salida (exit fee to house) and once again only the toughest most resistant girls will hold out for 3,000 jamaican or $48.

31 Creek st. - local sc. When I arrived only 4 patrons all Jamaican sitting in back playing dominoes. 12 girls available many very raw/natural (unshaven) range from 5-7. They all ask for the moon (5,000 jamaican) but ask yourself "If this girl doesn't leave with me, who else is going to pay her these ridiculous prices?"
Easy to chop them down to 2,500 jamaican or less.

con't............

sc's cont. - dolls house - major tourist trap that (seriously) advertises on the billboard outside "white russian girls"
might be worth the $7 entry fee to watch the show - absolutely amazing looking women and yes the girls from europe are pretty incredible. two from russia, two from the ukraine, three from czech republic and two from poland. all gorgeous, all available but at ridiculous freight - $200+ usd to go for all-nighter.

opt for the jamaican girls onsite as a much cheaper alternative. i chatted it up with nikita (jamaican), pearla, rose and keisha. all sexy chocalate skinned stunners - very pretty. all four were in the 5,000 jamaican range ($62) but i passed was pretty pooped......:)

cont...........

Only tourist trap restaurant I recommend is a place called the Jamaican Bobsled Team Restaurant. (honest name)

Great food, not bad prices and very "hip" atmosphere.
Great coconut shrimp, jerk burgers and a full drink menu selection that goes on for pages.

I tried the "Cool Runnings" it is a drink served ice cold made with about 5 different rums, pineapple juice, orange juice and triple -sec. Had a few sips and told the bartender that it was pretty fruity but didn't seemed very strong.

Finished about 2/3's of the drink and had to go to the bathroom. I needed two waitresses to help me off the bar stool. (lol) :D

More later, info on casa de citas (city houses) tomorrow. The sun finally came out, hurricane Wilma has passed and its time to take in some sun.

The overcast sky's and rain might not have been all that bad , it sure does get friggin' hot here when the sun is out in full. (Might be time for a "Cool Runnings", the bar is just across the street) :)

FORD "La Periodista" out!

"Hello my friend, its o.k. man, I'm the waiter from your hotel"

LOL!!!!! I fell for that one once about 12 years ago. The deal is always, "Lend me 20 till tomorrow. I'll see you at the hotel and pay you. You can trust me"

When they try that on me, I always say "Hey, what about that 20 I gave you the other day?" Pay up or else." I'm pretty big and look like scooter trash so they usually backpeddle pretty quick.

Only the new guys on the street try that with me. I've hit Jamaica several times a year for the last 15 years or so with well over 100 visits. I know all the regulars on the street pretty well. I've watched some of them grow up and even know their real names.

Ford, did you ever get to go to PJs when it was still run by PJ? It's that outdoor bar just past Tony's with live reggae. That place was pretty rough. The hustlers went there to be hustled. They had the best jerk around and were actually the first jerkpit in Mobay. It was nothing but hookers and quantity dealers. Tourists were afraid to go in there, but the place was actually pretty cool. The rastas came down from the hills with their herb and guitars and would jam all night.

I'd go in there and treat whoever was sitting at the bar to some jerk and a stripe. I could feed a dozen people for a fifty dollar bill. I never paid for herb in those days. I'd flip a 20 to a hooker, just so she would sit with me and keep the others away. Never took one home though, as SWs aint my bag. (I'm a brothel rat) It was an easy nite for them and a relaxing evening for me.

PJ sold out about 9 years ago and they cleaned the place up for the tourists. It's still there under another name with good reggae and a cloud of smoke and seems a bit edgy to tourists, but it's not what it used to be.

By the way, the chinese restaurant right next to it is pretty good.

I'll be there in a few weeks.

Pogo

This is the phrase that comes to mind when one walks into 51 Market St.

51 Market St is a sc/mp/casa de cita/ techno-reggae night club. It is an all in one experience for only the most adventurous travelers.

I arrived last night around 10pm and immediately was introduced to four girls standing out front. After paying a $100 Jamaican cover ($1.60) I ventured inside. There is a bar on the right followed by a living room type sitting area. There were girls seated at the bar, several sitting on couches and three more in a long corridor that procedes the couches.

After the sitting area you walk down a short narrow corridor to the sc, dance area. Now picture this - sweltering hot room with only a small ceiling fan cycling the air. Billows of ganga smoke forming a cloud encompassing the ceiling, walls and air vents. A "sick' loud throbbing/pulsating techno reggae beat as Bob Marley wails in boom speakers from the back "I SHOT THE SHERRIF!" Six girls, no wait there's two more, o.k. eight girls, no wait behind the smoke there's three more, o.k. 11 girls or did I forget to count those two rubbing up against the bar polls , o.k. 13 girls and then the four on the stage......O.K. 17 GIRLS!!!, sweaty, pulsating to the rythm that absolutely drowns the ears with every drum beat!

I'm not sure I've ever experienced such total sensory overload. Two grab for my crotch, one rubs up against me while I'm straightening my shorts, two more are fingering themselves and pointing at me ...........sheesh!

51 Market st is something that every MoBay traveler needs to experience before he dies!

Unfortunately on Thursday, Friday and Saturday the owner charges a $2000 jamaican exit fee for any girl ($32) so if you don't want to pay the "vig" just hangout and enjoy the scenery.

I grabbed a cell number from a dancer by the name of Keisha. Tall, thin athletic, dark complexion 25 year old and met her about 12 noon today for an afternoon session. After two cupfulls and a quick rest - I'm out on the prowl and looking for tonights entertainment. :)

To sum up I have totally enjoyed my time here in MoBay. Though the girls don't quite equal in looks the women available in the Dominican Republic or certainly not like places in South America - I think Montego bay is a close, convenient and solid choice for your travel/monger dollars.

The girls may be 5,6, and 7's in looks but make up for this in attitude, personality and "freakiness"! The prices are also considerably lower across the board for everything!

Also, the people here speak English which makes Jamaica an excellent choice for people who are "Spanish impaired"

Try Montego Bay and I think you will find it is worth your time, your energy and your hard earned $$bucks.

cheers all,
FORD

Hi Ford,

good to hear from you.

nice reports; I always like to keep informed myself about countries were i never was.
Could you tell us a bit more about the general price level in Jamaica?? gasoline,food,supermarkets,hotel rates..etc?? Do you also have some lighter skinned girls overthere or only dark black?

All I know is that (if you are booking from netherlands,belgium or Germany) Jamaica is a rather expensive country to visit.

Is it true you can obtain weed?? Isit legal there? I hear the jamaicans make a nasty kind of weed.

cheers,

Johan.

Hey Ford,
Have you ever been too St. Maarten? I was wondering if MB compared to St. Maarten, because St>maarten is out of this world and the prices are very nice, but it seems that an all nighter in in Montego Bay might be cheaper. I was just curious if you could compare the 2.


Chris H

Planning a trip to MoBay for some golf and booty! Need some advice on where to stay. Actually, I prefer a nice clean, upscale hotel for relaxing and would rather monger somewhere else. I'm not interested in all-nighters because I can't relax with the stranger in the room. So, for mongering, short-time hotels would be just fine.

Are there plentiful short-time hotels in MoBay? If I do decide to monger in my own place, are there many "guest-friendly" hotels along the Hip Strip?

Last time I was there for just a night (no mongering) the cheap hotel I stayed at posted a sign saying, "no guests after 11 p.m."

Anyway, any advice will be appreciated.

Hi Chris,

St. Maarten will leave you with very high expectations. Montego Bay will disappoint you because the action there is far less pleasant. The Jamaican girls are very aggressive and money hungry and the houses are all grimy and dangerous.

It is also very hard to find willing girls who want to experience an anal bang. For me this is a compulsory part of the P4P experience. If it was not so it would be easy to find a vacationing woman and give her the island adventure of her life.

There is very little to compare. MoBay has more local action than St. Maarten where you will find chicas from the continent and from the Dom. Rep. SM is also cheaper.

Give it a try but avoid disappointment by expecting too much.

Alan

[QUOTE=Chris H]Hey Ford,
Have you ever been too St. Maarten? I was wondering if MB compared to St. Maarten, because St>maarten is out of this world and the prices are very nice, but it seems that an all nighter in in Montego Bay might be cheaper. I was just curious if you could compare the 2.


Chris H[/QUOTE]

MoBay and St Maarten is a whole different comparison. [Pro] girls travel from Colombia and the DR to work at Seamens Club etc on ST Mrtn and their bottom line prices are way higher. You aren't going to be sleeping with local girls here - only the girls that travel the "circuit" . St Maarten, Curacao, Aruba, Costa Rica, Panama etc.

In MoBay on the other hand the girls you are going to meet will be living primarily in the City of MoBay and the small surrounding towns. As a result you can comfortabaly negotiate $2000 Jamaican ($30-$35) for a few hours to all night.

Alan is however correct the quality in St Maarten is going to be considerably higher but not cheaper. I'll also admit that (how can I put this) "staying in control of the situation that your'e in" is essential in MoBay. Some of the clubs that I mentioned are "hard core" places and you'll need to "stay on your toes" (Is that enough cliches for you?) ;)

FORD

This was my home base in MoBay. The Hotel Wexford. Comfortable, stylish good food (not all-in), nice little pool, nice balconies and ABSOLUTELY the BEST location for the action! Right on the hip strip.

Barrinson and Stevenson are the two security guard/ bell-men/ doormen at this location (their first names) and they will keep you safe and can get you ANYTHING you want.

The "official" guest policy here is that guests in you room will be an extra charge of $15 a night, but don't worry about this. Tip Barrinson or Stevenson a couple bucks a day and girls will be appearing at you door every few hours. (NO extra charges and I probably had about 8 women upstairs total)

[QUOTE=Johan007]Hi Ford,

good to hear from you.

nice reports; I always like to keep informed myself about countries were i never was.
Could you tell us a bit more about the general price level in Jamaica?? gasoline,food,supermarkets,hotel rates..etc?? Do you also have some lighter skinned girls overthere or only dark black?

All I know is that (if you are booking from netherlands,belgium or Germany) Jamaica is a rather expensive country to visit.

Is it true you can obtain weed?? Isit legal there? I hear the jamaicans make a nasty kind of weed.

cheers,

Johan.[/QUOTE]

Hi Johan,

I haven't forgotten I owe you a pm on Caracas Venezuela.

Prices are cheap as soon as you get out of the "hip strip" Gloucester St area. On the main tourist area expect to pay $12 for crappy pre-shrunk tee-shirts, rip off prices for beers, sun tan lotion etc.

However, the more you venture towards the downtown MoBay area prices drop like a stone! Downtown Mobay can be pretty crazy and is not exactly what I would call safe but since I know you have traveled extensively I wouldn't be concerned. Its on a par with Ave Tiradentes in Santo Domingo for example. (Just keep your head up)

Girls are mostly dark-skinned. Weed here is powerful stuff, not legal but readily available (very readily) and tolerated in .....well......the Hotel Wexford for example! :)

FORD

Hello all,

I want to thank everyone for their pm's re: my MoBay posts.
I received seven (7) total pm's re: MoBay and I've answered every one now.

One other note. Check out [url]www.airjamaica.com[/url]. This is a great airline and if you happen to be living near a city that has a direct flight to MBJ than you're in business! Throughout the year they offer phenomenal prices from places like Atlanta, Baltimore, Chicago ,Philadelphia , NYC, LAX to MoBay.
Some of their super-savers fares can save you BIG $$ and can get you in 51 Market St and scooping up an ebony beauty before closing time! :)

(This is a picture of Margaritaville Bar on Gloucester Ave)
Have a beer here just so you can say you went (it will cost you $4.50) but the real prizes in this town are for those that venture downtown.

I must concur Ford that your info is great!. I plan to put it to use on a quick visit to MoBay early next year. I've never been there. If anyone wants to share a phone number to some stunners, -PM me- I'd be most appreciative.

MrC

I spent 2 days in early Dec 05 on the Hip Strip. Although I adore black Jamaican women, I was not impressed by the 25 hookers I saw at night walking the strip, and I did not partake. Short hint: forget MoBay, the beach parties at Negril are MUCH better.

Late one night I took a taxi to Goldfinger Club at 51 Market St, which Ford described so well. It was a dark sleazy little club with a brothel upstairs. 5 USD to get in, 10 USD to the house to take a girl upstairs, 50 USD for the girl. These are quoted prices, probably negotiable, but I didn't feel like exposing my dick in this joint, so I settled for some very imaginative lap dances. The quantity and quality of girls in this club rivalled the best all-black clubs I've been to in the USA, and the girls were very intent on pleasing the customers. Worth a visit if you're not afraid. But take a taxi.

On the way to Goldfingers my taxi driver had to ask directions from an apparently random guy on the street. This guy's woman companion, a pretty woman in her early 20's, proceeded to offer herself sexually to me. Wierd town.

The street hustlers are a real nuisance in this town. I got propositioned for souvenirs, drugs, women, etc at a rate of once per 2 minutes. Negril was much calmer and more peaceful, especially at the beach. And the Negril beach parties were awesome !! Next time I will skip MoBay and go directly to Negril.

Snake27,

Thanks for the little shout out here on the board. I'm sorry that MoBay didn't live up to everything you had hoped but it sounds like your time in Negril made up for that! :)

The pm's that I've received since I returned pretty much all ask the same thing. "Hey, Ford is there alot of variety in the women down there?" and "Hey Ford, I hear MoBay is a dangerous place, is that true?"

The providers in MoBay are Jamaican black women - if this is not what you're after then you should go somewhere else. As far as danger goes - Mobay is a seedy place but what one considers to be dangerous depends largely on your past experiences and past vacation destinations.

FORD

On my first night in MoBay, a beautiful and casually dressed black Jamaican women in her early twenties caught my eye near Margaritaville. I invited her to dinner, and on our way we passed through a group of prostitutes who made rude remarks, like "Hey girl, be sure to charge him enough." I asked my friend in a laughing way if she knew them, and she replied "No, they're prostitutes, mon. I am not a prostitute."

After a pleasant dinner I invited her to my hotel. She agreed but seemed reluctant and said "I can't stay long. I am tired and need to go home soon." So I made a date for the next day, and realizing she was poor I gave her 15 USD for her taxi.

The next day she came to my room and watched movies and BET videos for a couple hours. She was so pretty I couldn't resist, so I made my move and kissed her. But she was unresponsive and after a few passively received kisses she said, in a sad way, "You know how yesterday you asked me if I have kids ? Well, I have a child inside me now. I am 3 months pregnant.".

Now, I may be a snake in the grass, but I cannot take advantage of a desperate woman who does not consider herself to be a prostitute. So, I desisted and went back to watching TV. After considering all the evidence (which I won't go into), I decided her story was probably true. It was NOT just another MoBay hustle, although these Jamaicans are such experts at scamming "Jake" that its hard to tell for sure. I therefore gave her 100 USD. Yes, a fool and his money are soon departed. Luckily I can afford to be a fool sometimes.

We watched TV for awhile longer and talked. Then we went to dinner and her conversation opened up. She spoke about her life, her aspirations, her religous faith. She was bitter about her boyfriend who left her in a dire situation. She lives with her aunt and has demanded support from the boyfriend's grandmother. From what I've read, the extended female family bear the brunt of childbearing in Jamaica's underclass.

After dinner we went to my room and watched a movie. She enjoyed it because she didn't have cable. When the movie finished she went home.

If it was only a hustle, what was this attractive young woman selling in my hotel room ? Was she hoping a "rich" tourist would take her away from poverty ? Was she offering me a chance to perform an act of kindness and feel good about myself ? This probably wasn't the first and won't be the last time she goes to a tourist man's room. And I imagine some men would press the issue and she would acquiesce, if she felt the need.

On the rest of my trip I made sure to go with women who were obviously and explicitly in the game, the cold elite of their art. It was cleaner that way.

[QUOTE=Snake27]On my first night in MoBay, a beautiful and casually dressed black Jamaican women in her early twenties caught my eye near Margaritaville. I invited her to dinner, and on our way we passed through a group of prostitutes who made rude remarks, like "Hey girl, be sure to charge him enough." I asked my friend in a laughing way if she knew them, and ...
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Dear fellow,I still have tears in my eyes, after reading your report but not for the girl's story but for your unjustified generosity.
I can understand that it is difficult to resist in front of stories of poverty, single mothers and related items but what you have done - I mean the donation of 100 US $ - will damage all us for the future.

We have to cut off with this tendence to OVERPAY a woman or making donation to the one who is able to tell us the saddest story.

A gift of 100 US $ is exaggerated even after a sexual intercourse in a country where an average salary is much lower than in the USA or in Western Europe.
With this behaviour now we have reached the absurdity situation that prices in the III° world are almost the same of US and W.Europe.

I read in this forum about overnights on 100 $ or Euro in countries like Cuba, Colombia or Westafrica where a decent monthly incoming is around 200 - 300.
Do you pay 1200 $ in USA for it or do you donate a girl 600 $ in USA just for a sad story of unwished pregnancy?

Dear fellow,maybe the girl's story was true, but imagine if it is an usal trick:this girl will be soon millionaire just watching tv in hotel rooms.
When she will tell it to her friends, plenty of Jamaican chicks will go around to cry in front tourists about poverty and sadness but just doing nothing about sex.

And if 100 $ are offered for nothing what will be the offer for something else?

Let's finish with all this.

I really see that this man know nothing about Jamaica. Giving a girl 100 US without knowing here, only after she told you a sad story.

Jamaica is buisness and if you can get money for free, they will do it. Iff you have 100 US and a girl is in need for money, they normaly also will give you "pussy". But if you don't make it clear, you don't will get it. Frist they tell you all the time, that they are a good girl, but this will soon gone, if they see, that have to do something for the money. And in 95% of the cases, they will do it. So don't be a foul.

A girl how is hanging around places like Margeritavillas and will go with a wihte man to his hotelroom, you can have them for money.

[QUOTE=Jam21]I really see that this man know nothing about Jamaica. Giving a girl 100 US without knowing here, only after she told you a sad story.

Jamaica is buisness and if you can get money for free, they will do it. Iff you have 100 US and a girl is in need for money, they normaly also will give you "pussy". But if you don't make it clear, you don't will get it. Frist they tell you all the time, that they are a good girl, but this will soon gone, if they see, that have to do something for the money. And in 95% of the cases, they will do it. So don't be a foul.

A girl how is hanging around places like Margeritavillas and will go with a wihte man to his hotelroom, you can have them for money.[/QUOTE]

......I brought several girls back to my room during my trip and we didn't even discuss money. After everything was over, this one girl "Rose" said "you know sir, my friends said that I should ask for some money for this."

I, of course, had every intention of giving her money for her time but I was shocked when it became clear to me that this girl actually came to my room, showered with me, slept with me and thought that she might be doing this all for free!

When I gave her 2000 Jamaican dollars she was overwhelmed! Thank you, thank you, thank you .... you are a very generous person, thank you!

2000 Jamaican dollars is equivalent to about $30 USD. :)

cheers..........

Ok, I consider myself to be properly chastised. I think my anecdote and the responses are nevertheless useful and it is not likely one "fool" will skew the world market. It would take a vast number of fools to ruin things. At least I did the rest of my trip "the right way" with professionals who provided good experiences for $30 to $50 (see my Negril report). I am admittedly not as skilled as some contributors at picking up semi-pros or non-pros, and am probably too much of a softy. Case closed, I think.

Snake,

It sounds like you are a good, kind and generous person.... but you got hustled. If she was for real, you would have got her phone number, address, met a relative and she would have refused the money. I have dated a few Jamaican women on my travels there and they have not only refused money but have sometimes even picked up a check in a restaurant or taken me home for a home cooked meal. Gifts of a new dress, a phone, a cd player, etc are OK. I once bought a set of tires for a girl I spent a weekend with. Not because she asked, but because I was afraid to ride in her car with the ones she had.

If they say things like "my friends say I should ask for money" the "friend" is usually a guy collecting from her and a few other semi-pros as well. After the first couple times they drop the act, become pros and just go for the trick.

Jamaica is the hot bed of hustle. here's just a few:

*Hey, mon! It's me! The waiter/doorman/security/etc from the hotel. Can you spot me a 20? I'll pay you back tomorrow. (ask them which hotel or ask them about yesterdays $20 they owe you)

*My baby girl is sick and I need $15 for a doctor visit. I'm really scared for her, Mon!

*Hey mon...can ya help me out? I haven't been home in a week. I lost my job and need taxi fare to get home. And maybe some food money for the kids.

*My babydaddy/girlfriend/husband/etc threw us out today. My kid is at school and I need to find a place for us to stay and some food to eat before she gets out.

And there are more. I have heard each of the above many, many times.

The only ones that will get me all the time is "I got the good weed Mon!" (only if it IS good) or "I'll suck your dick for $20" (only if she looks good) That's what I'm there for!

But Snake, don't feel too bad about it. Everyone that has visited Jamaica has been caught by a hustle of some sort although some won't admit it. It's part of the experience.

As for paying too much....I agree it does have a tendency to raise the ante if everyone starts paying high prices. However, I also find it rather ironic that we mongers will spend thousands to get to a good mongering destination and then ***** about being hustled out of a $2 drink or work our asses off to get a $40 girl down to $30. I do it myself. I could afford to pay the girls a few hundred with no problem, but I will bargain to the death for a $10 break or a free second shot on goal.

For me, it's not just about the sex....it's about the game and the hunt for the perfect professional GFE at the lowest possible price...no matter how much it costs to get to the game.

Pogo

I was looking to sneak in a mongering trip between Thanksgiving and Christmas. I had recently returned from Costa Rica and before that the Dominican Republic. I could not easily explain such a quick revisit to either one of those destinations on the domestic front. Then I spotted a cheap fare to Jamaica on the net. Like many of you I never considered Jamaica a great destination for our hobby. If you read no further ---- think again!

I checked the Mo-Bay Forum and what do I find but several reports from the venerable Ford, one of the two or three most reliable and savvy posters on the WSG or any other forum. I read three posts and immediately booked my flight.

I will follow this with several reports. Mostly reinforcing what Ford has provided. I won’t aspire to anything like his humor but will add a few observations.

Much of my experience is also relevant to the recent contribution by Snake 27 and the commentary that followed, so I will also weigh in on that.

The overall theme will be as follows: Run! Do not walk! Do not stop at “Go”! Book the next possible flight to Mo-Bay and you will return exhausted, sexually spent, very happy and maybe a little sad that you had to come home.

I took Ford’s advice and stayed at the Wexford. It’s a great choice. For me the selection of an Ocean View room was more than worth the additional dollars. The room was clean, had a safety box, a king bed and a balcony. Everyone on the staff is quite friendly but you’ll want to get to know the two bellmen in particular.

Their names are Claude Stephenson and Barrington Brown. Barrington will also answer to Barry but you will find either most quickly if you have their full names. One of the two is usually found on the steps or porch waiting to unload a car or taxi.

I have cell phone numbers for both of them but as you know phone numbers cannot be posted in a report. If you are actually going to Mo-Bay PM me and I’ll supply those.

Either of the boys can hook you up with Dean who drives a cab. Dean is also about 6’3”, probably packing heat, and is a good guy to have along when you decide to visit certain clubs that have been previously mentioned.

The Wexford is convenient to several good places to eat, drink, and meet women. The Pelican is right next door and has great local food at good prices. There’s a Burger King within 200 yards, Jimmy Buffett’s Magaritaville is a quarter mile down the “Hip Strip” which is to your right as you depart the hotel. The “Hip Strip” goes all the way to Tony’s Pizza.

If you turn left from the hotel you’re headed toward downtown Mo-Bay and a quite different world from the one tourists usually visit. There are some good restaurants including The Brewery and the Pork Pit. There's also a rip-off strip joint, a crafts center and if you walk a mile or so, a mall with some pretty decent stores. It has an especially good sporting goods and apparel shop.

If you are the same color as me you will most likely be the only person in the mall of our particular tint, specifically white. Oddly enough I felt much more comfortable in the mall or walking downtown than I did on the “Hip Strip”. That’s because the professional hustlers hang out on the strip and they’re not looking to hustle fellow Jamaicans.

If you dislike or uncomfortable being approached with every kind of offer from free "weed" to an all-nighter with Miss Jamaica 2003, or the services of “Big Rodney” who would like to be your guide and protector for your entire stay, the Mo-Bay scene is not right for you.

For my part, I rather enjoy bantering with the natives and if your final answer is always “No” they quickly learn to leave you alone. Word will, in fact, spread that you are a poor mark and soon the entire brigade of hustlers will realize that any “come on” is a waste of time. I learned quickly that Mo-Bay is a small town. Those who are interested know where you are and what you are doing.

In the next installment I’ll explain what I found to be the five sources of female companionship. One of these, in my opinion, makes Jamaica a real gem among mongering destinations.

Billy Bob,

Very interesting report so far on the Montego Bay scene. I however advise you that you should resist the temptation to use people's names on the forum. As you said, Mobay is a pretty small town where everyone knows each other. If word gets out that people's names are being used in a forum such as ISG there can be a lot of trouble for them including violence. Believe me, I know the place very well and you should leave such details for private messaging with interested world mongers.

Alan

[QUOTE=Alan]Billy Bob,

Very interesting report so far on the Montego Bay scene. I however advise you that you should resist the temptation to use people's names on the forum. As you said, Mobay is a pretty small town where everyone knows each other. If word gets out that people's names are being used in a forum such as ISG there can be a lot of trouble for them including violence. Believe me, I know the place very well and you should leave such details for private messaging with interested world mongers.

Alan[/QUOTE]I agree on this one. I've been to Jamaica well over 100 times and indeed Mobay is a small town, especially along the strip. Either of these guys could lose their jobs at the hotel and a good job is often a once in a lifetime opportunity for them. If they get fired they will NEVER get another good job due to their work permit being pulled. (you must have a work permit to be employed in any tourist-contact job, even bellman or busboy)

Other than that. I look forward to the next installment! I'm heading to Jamaica myself later this week. Couple of MAJOR swingers groups at both Hedos this month. Should be fun!

1. Street Walkers
2. Massage Parlors
3. Clubs
4. Barry, Claude and trustworthy cab drivers
5. Everyplace Else.

By far the most interesting of these sources is number five. I found it easy to strike up a conversation with every female I found appealing whether she was a waitress, a clerk in a store, or with a group of friends in the mall. Not only was it easy to start a conversation but in almost every instance their was also a possibility for more - maybe much more. For me, this is what made Jamaica different from some of the alternative mongering destinations.

In order to make this manageable I will do a separate report on each of the sources, saving the best and most interesting (#5) for last.

Street Walkers:

Street Walkers have never appealed to me, but if they’re your thing you won’t be disappointed. A veritable parade of hookers march up and down “the strip” beginning around 8:00PM and continue into the wee hours. Some of these women are not native Jamaicans, though you should not expect much in the way of variety.

All of them have that unmistakable good taste in fashion, make-up, and haut couture that one expects from street walkers the world over.

I believe there are a number of daytime street professionals, but lacking the distinctive apparel of the trade they are more difficult to identify. Feel free to say, “Hi” to anyone of interest and you’ll learn quickly enough what they do for a living.

Since I’m not into SW’s I did not establish a price with any of these working women. My sense, however, is that you should be able to find something in this market at anywhere from $1000 to $1500 Jamaican, between $20 and $25 US. The asking price will be significantly more.

And a word to Alan. With all due respect, the names of the guys at the hotel have been previoulsy mentioned on this very thread. They were pleased when I informed them of the high praise they had been given and asked if I would also speak of them kindly. I will undoubtedly do and say things you disagree with, but in this case I don't admit to a WSG sin.

Really looking forward to #2, 3, 4 and 5. Let us know!

I'm curious though - where are the SW's from, if not Jamaica?

Wet Nose caught me in a presumption. I presumed that all native Jamaicans are black and, of course, that is not true. According to the CIA (and we can rely on them, right?) the population is 90.9% black. This means the remaining 9.1% is something else, and the two or three light skinned Hispanic looking hookers I cast my orbs upon could well have been native Jamaicans. They could also have been on vacation from the Dominican Republic, Cuba, or Puerto Rico for all I know. Mia culpa. I’m working hard on installments two through five and I promise to be more careful about jumping to conclusions.

I also have some fine photographs that match upcoming chapters but I need to figure out how to get them loaded on the post. In view of Alan’s legitimate concerns I’ll crop out the faces.

Billy Bob,
Your reports are not only great, but you have a very organized, detail oriented way of reporting- great job!

These are the kind of informative reports that make Jackson's board such a great resource!

Great work! :)

Primero. Thanks Ford. That compliment coming from you is like having Ted Williams compliment the way you swing a baseball bat. But I digress.

Massage Parlors in Mo-Bay operate pretty much the same as those in Costa Rica and the Dominican Republic. The girls introduce themselves then you get a chance to chat, choose, and decide what kind of “massage” you want from a printed menu. The printed menu includes taking the girl off premises. Always keep in mind that the printed menu includes a “hand job” at best. You’ll need to negotiate with the girl for anything more,.

All cab drivers will take you to a massage parlor if you ask. The cab driver will not only take you there, but also come right inside with you. That’s because he gets Jamaican $500 for bringing them a customer. This is the same amount the girl gets for spending time with you, which is why you’ll need to negotiate with her separately. You’ll experience more double dealing in a single Jamaican day than you will in a Milwaukee year.

I learned this because I had the good fortune to spend a day of my stay with an absolutely gorgeous and quite talented young woman I met at a massage parlor. I had arrived at about noon and had spent the afternoon and early evening getting my bearings and planting some seeds. You will learn later if they bore fruit. By 8:00PM, however, I had nothing lined up for the night and decided on the MP route.

The cab driver took me to one of the best known massage parlors which I believe is called “The Relaxation and Rejuvenation Center.” I could be slightly off with the name but it doesn’t matter. You enter on the second floor. Immediately you are on a balcony overlooking the first floor and you’re facing a curtain. Someone yells “client” and the girls begin appearing from behind the curtain one-at-a-time. Each says “Hi” and gives her name.

Once all of the girls have introduced themselves you can walk downstairs and chat with them. In one way this is a good thing because there were at least 20 women and all were well above 7. There were a couple of true 10s. If you like black women (and why else would you be in Jamaica?) this was a spectacular offering.

The downside is that until you make your choice all of the 20 girls hover around you trying to arouse your attention in various ways. While this is happening you feel like Prince Charming but you know that once you choose you’ll be less popular (with all except one) than a turd in a punch bowl.

My advice would be to take the girl who appeals to you most aside. Ask her if she has any “Won’ts”. In Spanish I call these “Nuncas”. If you want a BBBJ and the girl won’t do BBBJs you’re going to be disappointed. Likewise, if you like anal and she won’t do anal, its better that you select someone else. Ask all twenty if you have to.

Once the parameters have been established you choose the girl and now we come to my second piece of advice. Negotiate a fair price and get on with it. If you and the lady hit it off and you’ve been fair in your dealings you’ll quickly find she has a cell phone number she would be more than happy to share with you. You’ll also learn that she would be delighted to make your company when she is not working. That’s how I ended up spending a whole day with the kind of woman you dream about having in bed. The total cost of the day was $70.00 US and a meal from room service. She brought her own “weed” and shared nicely.

My guess is there are fifty massage parlors operating in various places. One of them is called "Wet & Wild". It’s out near the airport and much smaller than “The Relaxation and Rejuvenation Center”. During the daytime you’ll find three, maybe four girls. The girls are by no means in the same league as the larger place, but the menu prices are less and those of you who like to negotiate rock bottom prices will have a field day.

FYI for those reading Billy Bob's report...

Exchange rate: 1 USD buys 65 Jamaican dollars.

Thanks to Wet Nose for the monetary update. It is important because the price you are quoted for anything will always be in the currency most advantageous to the vendor. But I digress.

The definitive treatise on Jamaican strip clubs/bordellos has already been written. Ford’s description of The Goldfinger Club at 51 Market St was sufficient all by itself to lure this monger to Jamaica. I had vowed to visit regardless of what else happened.

For three nights I was otherwise occupied. Now on my next-to-last evening I carved out time to make the scene. The time selected was altogether too early (about 8:30-9:00). The number of ladies on site were many fewer than Ford reported and I have a feeling things were just getting started. It was also a Wednesday night.

The joint is exactly as Ford describes except that’s it’s more seedy and much darker. At first I wondered if they had electric lighting. The bar has about fourteen seats. Ten feet away is a door that leads either upstairs or behind a wall. The wall is comprised of 14-inch speakers that appear to be of a vintage somewhere around 1959 and sound like it as they pound out a throbbing combination of Reggae and Hip-Hop.

Once you sit at the bar it will be no more than ten seconds before you have company. Before a minute has passed the company will be touching your “privates” and inviting you to join her in one of the suites. Somehow the vision of what these accommodations would be like did not coincide with my idea of posh or even clean. As Snake 27 said in an earlier post. It was not somewhere I'd want my dick exposed.

Management wants a ransom for taking any girl away from the premises, and I had plans for later in the evening anyway. This visit was mostly to see if Ford’s description could possibly be accurate. It was in all respects except that on this particular night the "hostesses" were nowhere near the best Jamaica has to offer. By my standards the most attractive would have been a 6. But you can’t say they weren’t willing. Upon departure I had three little slips of paper containing a name and cell phone number.

Ford, of course, is a much bigger and braver dude than me. I took Dean (the taxi driver) inside with me, and in fact insisted that he join me for a Red Stripe. Now that I think of it he probably collected from management as well, but hey, it’s the Jamaican way.

There is also action down the street at Club Las Vegas. Unfortunately I did not get a chance to see what this place was like inside. We were planning to pay a visit but as we approached what might be called a "domestic dispute" was taking place across the street. A rather large woman and her "Main Man" were engaged in a lively and loud debate. He was waving a gun around like Barney Fife did when Otis acted up. The scene in general had provoked every dog for three square blocks into similar disputes and incessant barking.

Dean thought it best not to hang around. I was in agreement.

[QUOTE=Billy Bob]

The joint is exactly as Ford describes except that’s it’s more seedy and much darker. At first I wondered if they had electric lighting. The bar has about fourteen seats. Ten feet away is a door that leads either upstairs or behind a wall. The wall is comprised of 14-inch speakers that appear to be of a vintage somewhere around 1959 and sound like it as they pound out a throbbing combination of Reggae and Hip-Hop.

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Hahahaha, brilliant reporting!!!! Billy makes it sound like the jamaican version of the "Titty Twister" - the bar from that Tarantino horror-vampire movie "From Dawn to Dusk". Perhaps they should rename it, hee hee...

There's always a reason to read ISG, and now I can add Billy Bob to my list of favorite reporters! Keep em coming, Billy!!!!

Hi guys, would you recommend renting a scooter and exploring on your own? What are drivers in Jamaica like? Are there good road maps available?

Reason being...Jamaica is actually quite small and mountainous in certain portions too- which makes it really scenic and perfect for exploring. I'd also save on the commission to the driver for massage venues too...

There is little to say on this subject except to confirm Ford’s suggestion that you keep Barry and Claude (or the bellmen at whatever Montego Bay hotel you have chosen) happy by crossing their palms with a couple of bucks when you happen to see them. It took me a while to hook up with these guys but they were more than sensitive to my needs and requirements once we made contact.

A trustworthy taxi driver can also be a source of what you are looking for. Some of them actually have a list of women they can call. It is important, however, to be on the alert for the “Jamaican Double Shuffle” at all times.

Let’s say you are coming back from dinner around 9:00PM. When the taxi driver lets you off you make it known that you would not be opposed to having a comely companion for the evening. Chances are at least 50-50 that he will be back in ten minutes with a street walker he has picked up from “The Strip. You could have accomplished this yourself by taking a short walk.

How will you know such a subterfuge has taken place? There are two tell-tale signs that make it easy. First, he was back in ten minutes. If this is someone he had to go pick up, and she had to get ready it would have taken longer than ten minutes. Second, and most important, she will be adorned in the unmistakable garb of a streetwalker. In other words, if it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck…..

My sense is that, as much as I like these guys, Barry and Claude are not above this very maneuver if you are in a hurry. After all, they need only walk a few steps on your behalf. If you are picky in your desires you should provide them plenty of notice and all of the requirements.

In my opinion the most important thing you can do in Mo-Bay is eliminate the middle man. That will not be entirely possible so you need to choose the ones you can trust the most. Avoid like the plague “hustlers” (and there are a lot of them) who approach you on the street and offer at no cost whatsoever to help you find anything you might be wanting in Mo-Bay from sun tan lotion to an Amazon Princess. They just want to be your friend. Right, and I just want to be a Bishop. That’s what to tell them too. Tell them you are a Baptist minister visiting Jamaica in the service of the Lord. Watch how quickly they disappear.

PS: To Wet Nose

If I were going up into the mountains I'd plan on being in an SUV or at least a sedan. The mountain roads are pretty steep and not well suited to scooters. Keep in mind that this "little" island has at least one fatal traffic accident a day. This doesn't count the ones where people are maimed.

All that said, you can rent any or all of the above at a booth located in the parking lot at The Wexford. Thanks for kudos!

[QUOTE=Wet Nose]Hi guys, would you recommend renting a scooter and exploring on your own? What are drivers in Jamaica like? Are there good road maps available?

Reason being...Jamaica is actually quite small and mountainous in certain portions too- which makes it really scenic and perfect for exploring. I'd also save on the commission to the driver for massage venues too...[/QUOTE]Personally, I would just hire a driver. Jamaican driving takes a set of reflexes that requires a lifetime to develop. A scooter is fine for buzzing around Negril or Ocho Rios or even Mobay (maybe). But in the mountains I would much rather have a couple tons of steel around me with a good Jamaica driver at the wheel. Besides the safety factor there is also the point that while he is driving, you can enjoy the view while sucking down a Redstripe and a spliff.

Jamaica may be small by US standards but it can easily take a couple days to drive all the way around it. It's not like St Maarten where you can circumnavigate the island in an hour. To go from Ocho Rios to Negril on the main road can easily take 4-5 hours. In the mountains it is an all day drive.

Besides, the difference between the cost of renting a car and hiring a driver is minimal...maybe 20-30 a day more for a driver. Plus a good driver will know all the cool places to go.

Be sure to check out the South Coast around Black River. It's beautiful and still the old Jamaica with genuine friendly people an no hustlers. Peter Tosh's grave is around there and worth the visit. Also, anyone going to Jamaica should make a pilgrimage to Nine Mile to visit Bob Marleys home and final resting place. Beautiful drive and a very moving experience while you are there.

Pogo

We come now to the final chapter, the fifth source of what you are looking for in Jamaica. To me it is the most interesting because it centers on an aspect of the mating process that is lost when the prelude to sex goes something like this:

“Want a date?”

“How much?”

“A hundred.”

“Are you loco? How about forty?”

And on and on until either an agreement or a stalemate is reached.

To me negotiations are a poor substitute for “the chase”. I define “the chase” as the process of inducing a woman to have sex with you for no other reason than her desire to do so. Until I was no longer able to achieve that on a consistent basis I never gave mongering a thought.

When I began this series of reports I expressed surprise, amazement and delight at the ease of initiating a “chase” and bringing it to a successful conclusion in Mo-Bay. Perhaps my “solo un poco” Spanish is the reason, but I never found “the chase” possible in the Dominican Republic or Costa Rica.

I initiated several “chases” while I was in Mo-Bay. Four of them are worthy of a report unto themselves and those stories will be forthcoming. Two of the four “chases” resulted in success at some level, one spectacularly so. I’m quite sure the average would have been raised if I had a few more days on the island, but hitting 500 is not bad in any league.

Before telling you how this was accomplished it is necessary to reveal more personal information than I normally would. I don’t want you saying to yourself, “Sure, it’s easy for Billy Bob. He’s in his early thirties and looks like Brad Pitt.”

Au contraire! My days as a dashing rake with hair capable of being “styled” are long gone. I am on the north side of fifty and headed into the home stretch. Years ago some people said I looked a little like Steve McQueen. Now I’m sometimes confused with Jimmy Carter.

On the plus side I still have piercing blue eyes, and (thanks to running) a killer body for a man of my advanced years.

I reveal these details so you can read the forthcoming stories from your own perspective. Specifically, if you are anything less than fifty, moderately good looking, and in above average shape you ought to score more in Mo-Bay than Wilt Chamberlain on a good night.

And Wilt could score in more ways than one!

Billy Bob,

Great series of reports! Makes me want to jump on a plane tomorrow!
I nominate Ford and you for inclusion into reports of distinction.

Excelsior,

Mattrick

Billy Bob,

I am writing this from an internet cafe on Maximo Gomez in downtown Santo Domingo but I wanted to take the time to give you a great big shout-out for your fine work!

I want to thank you for being so generous with your kind words re: my advice. But, my friend your work has put me to shame!

You writing is informative, entertaining and humorous. All round great work!

Don´t forget Jackson´s board is an amazingly power resource. With its 150,000 members a positive report (or series of positive reports) can really "put a place on the map". Let´s hope we did this for MoBay and that the people we mentioned and the places we talked about can profit from it.

I can´t wait to see where you surface next, because I´m certain you will do just as a good a job in directing future travelers here as well!

You´re a real asset to this forum even if you look do like Jimmy Carter. (lol) :D

cheers all.............

Thanks for the nice compliment Mattrick. Even being mentioned in the same sentence with Ford is an honor. I’m sure both of us would appreciate your nomination. And Ford, I'm not quite done with Jamaica but next week I head off for Nicaragua and Guanacaste, Costa Rica. But I digress!

The best way to keep the four “chases” organized is to recount what happened on a day-to-day basis. Telling the story this way will give you a sense of the intrigue and juggling more or less as it happened.

I was in Jamaica from Tuesday around noon until Saturday at about the same time. That gave me four days and nights of mongering to my heart’s content.

Once checked in and unpacked I always go for a walk to scout the terrain and acquire provisions. For me provisions include wine and booze and a few munchies.

My first “chase” began at the store where I bought the snacks. Two women were working, and both were quite attractive. When I paid for my snacks I said to the woman who was checking me out, “Wow, what a great smile. You must have the best smile in Mo-Bay.”

At this point she turned her eyes away and giggled like a school girl. She obviously liked the compliment but was a bit embarrassed. I asked her name, and for purposes of this report she told me it was Anne. We conversed for a few moments and then I said, “Why don’t we have dinner tonight? I need someone to show me around Mo-Bay.”

At this point her co-worker perked up and began taking an intense interest in the conversation. “I can’t tonight”, said Anne. “I’ve got plans already”.

“Tomorrow night then.”

“Well, we’ll see. You come in tomorrow”.

“I will do that very thing”, says me.

You will note that at no time did she say:

“Are you daffy? Why the hell would I want to have dinner with some pushy honkie, especially one as old and ugly as you?”

She didn’t come close to saying anything like that. In fact, she said “We’ll see”. I took that to be pretty good work for my first hour in town.

After unloading all my goodies it was time for a walk in the opposite direction. Their is a big park right in front of the Wexford. You can start the walk to downtown Mo-Bay by taking a left and walking along a trail in that park.

When I began walking I noticed a woman ahead of me by maybe fifty yards. I was walking more quickly than she and eventually we were side-by-side, a coincidence at least worthy of, “Hi, how ya do’ in?” It turned out she was fine and wondered the same about my health. A conversation was thus initiated and we proceeded apace toward downtown.

We’ll call number two Brenda. On the scale of any respectable mongerer she was no more than a five but she did possess a very impressive pair of boobs. It was also clear that she was not a daytime SW. She was wearing a chino skirt, a very conservative cotton blouse and a baseball cap. In our conversation she revealed that she and her aunt had a booth at the crafts market which is between the hotel and downtown. Brenda, like Anne, was between 25 and 30.

It took about fifteen minutes before we reached the edge of downtown. I wanted to go into the mall to find a store where I could get my cell phone working. Brenda followed along and was right with me as we entered. The entrance to the mall was like Times Square on New Year’s Eve. Once inside I realized Brenda had vanished into this sea of black faces. In retrospect I think I know why, but at the time I just figured she had somewhere else to go. It didn’t really matter because I had no interest in pursuing the possibilities of having sex with Brenda.

Across from the store where I got the my phone fixed, or rather where I was educated on how to make it work in Jamaica, there is a beauty salon. As I left the phone store one of the hair dressers was leaning against the rail that looks down on the first floor.

Now this was a really stunning young woman that I could get real interested in knowing intimately. What did I have to lose if I tried to make her acquaintance? Nothing, that’s what! So I walked over and said.

“Hi, if you don’t mind I have a question.”

“Okay”, she said.

“Could you tell me why in the world I am the only white guy in this whole place?”

She laughed and said, “No I can’t.

I asked her name and we’ll call her Carol. We talked for a few minutes but she was obviously uncomfortable and kept saying she had to get back to work. I inquired when her lunch hour was and asked if I could buy her lunch the next day. She told me that she only had a half hour. No problem, I said, we’ll eat at the KFC across the street. She agreed with this idea and we set a date for 1:00 the next day at the KFC. Normally I avoid KFCs like I avoid gangrene, but this was business.

Feeling fairly satisfied with my day’s work, I caught a cab back to the hotel where a nap seemed like a great idea.

Careful readers will know that later on that first evening I ended up at The Relaxation and Rejuvenation Center where I had a perfectly wonderful time.

And I also had two "investments" on the line.

Moments after arising I was rummaging around the room trying to find the phone number that Kendra from the massage parlor had written on a little slip of paper. The plan was for her to come over in the afternoon, but I said I would call to confirm. Unfortunately I was not locating her number.

To ease my frustration I threw on some shorts and went out in search of coffee. Within a few minutes I was sitting in a place that would become my breakfast spot throughout the trip. The coffee might not have been as good as at the Wexford, but the waitress was an incredible feast for the orbs. This was a girl somewhere between eighteen and twenty who, depending upon the talent score, could have been Miss Jamaica. We exchanged no more than pleasantries. She was much too young for me.

After breakfast I returned to the hotel to continue my search for Kendra’s number and had no luck whatever. This was not good. The prospect of spending the afternoon with Kendra was becoming an obsession that I might not be able to fulfill.

Then I remembered the need to keep my other fire burning, and decided to pay a call on Anne. I walked down to the store and was greeted warmly by both of the ladies.

“So Anne” I said. “Are we going to have dinner together tonight?”

Anne replies with a series of “hems” and “haws” adding up to a negative response. Meanwhile her co worker has become thoroughly engaged in the drama.

“Go on Anne, go. You know you want to. She wants to. Ask her again.”

“She’s right Anne, you want to,” I chime in.

Anne is chuckling and averting her eyes.

“Okay, a drink then. How about a drink at the Bobsled after work?” says me.

“Oh, no I couldn’t do that. Maybe lunch”, says Anne.

Now this presented a problem. I already had a lunch date with Carol at the Kentucky Fried Chicken next to the mall. Carol was not only more alluring but I also believed a better prospect that Anne so the choice was a no brainer.

I did, however, assume that Anne’s suggesting lunch was an expression of some interest and thought it appropriate to make the nature of my interest expressly clear.

“If we went to lunch you would have to be back here in an half hour or an hour at most”, I said. “That wouldn’t leave us much time for the fun stuff. Let’s aim for dinner tomorrow night. Then we’ll have plenty of time for whatever happens.”

Having made my intention perfectly clear I waited for Anne’s response which was: “Okay, maybe tomorrow.”

As I left the store she and the coworker were arguing about why Anne had used the word maybe.

After catching some rays by the pool I headed back to the room and dressed for lunch. Then I headed out for my lunch date. As I was crossing the driveway toward the park I spied a familiar face. It was Beverly.

My immediate thought was that this was no coincidence. Beverly had been waiting for me to leave the hotel. If the situation were reversed I would have been accused of stalking.

She stood still until I was within a few feet and then said,
“I’ve been waiting for you.” I asked her why and her response was something to the effect that she was sorry we had gotten separated. I explained that I was headed downtown to meet a friend for lunch. She walked along beside me. As we approached the area where she works she asked if we could get together again.

I’m way too vain to refuse a woman who is pursuing me, and it has been many a moon since this phenomena has occurred. I was compelled to say, “Sure, I’ll meet you at Margaritaville at 5:00”. She agreed and headed to her crafts booth.

Carol was waiting for me at KFC. We had greasy special #3 and she wolfed it down like it was the last plate of vittles on the planet. I learned that she was new to Mo-Bay having been in town only three weeks. Her home was some backwater village that I have been unable to find on fairly detailed maps of the country.

By the time we were returning our trays I was completely intrigued with this woman. When answering questions she was shy and naïve but she was also confident and assertive in talking about what she wanted to achieve in life. Most important I learned that she did not have a current boyfriend or husband. We agreed to meet for lunch again on Thursday, two days away.

Beverly was waiting for me outside Margaritaville when I arrived. We had two outrageously expensive Margaritas and as they were being consumed I learned that Beverly was the mother of two young children and lived in the same house as the father of those offspring.

I immediately concluded that daddy would probably expect his dinner in the next couple of hours, and that the prospect of bedding Beverly for the evening was dim.

I did make bold to suggest that Beverly might want to come knocking on my door in the morning before work. She certainly knew where I was staying. She needed only the room number. I supplied same and an invitation but did not expect anything further would transpire.

When I got back to the hotel Kendra had called and left her number. I returned the call and we made arrangements for her to come see me at 11:00AM on the morrow.

That evening I met a lovely professional who came highly recommended by one of the boys. It was a fulfilling, but not especially memorable encounter.

In fact, during the whole time I was somewhat preoccupied with my future prospects.

Their will be a brief interruption before the next episode. I am headed for Central America tomorrow and unlike Ford I cannot compose while sitting at an Internet Café. The story will continue when I return in one week.

It's good to read this stuff since it is incredibly fun there.

I've been going there over 9 years. One of the first girls was this one I can't say her name. I mentioned her name once on the internet and word got back to her. She had a perfect ass and a bubbly personality, always happy and smiling. I went to her place once or twice but I prefer to lay a towel outside and fuck her outside. It was just incredibly nice but I was always squeezed in between others.

Year after year she could always be found when I went there, until some guy there grabbed her and never let her out again.

I can't say how many times I fucked outside in the bushes somewhere in mo bay since I could not bring the woman to the hotel because I had a woman with me at the hotel. There are some places there with grounds too and if you give a few bucks to security, they will let you go inside in the bushes with the woman. You just have to look out for these guys since they all seem to want to watch. I always enjoyed fucking outdoors.

There have been some wild fucking outdoors both in mo bay and in negril. Years ago, I rented a motor scooter. I picked up this nice skinny chick and took her to some park like grounds on the other side of town from the strip. She wouldn't let me fuck her without a rubber. So behind a tree, I had her doggy style and I was rubbing my dick on the outside of her pussy planning to shoot my load that way that night. She got so horny that she reached behind and grabbed my dick and shoved it in her pussy.

In Negril last year, I was walking on the cliff road and this real nice young woman, looking for action, I don't know where she came from, she was sitting there on some ledge and we worked out alet's do it. We went to this outside place nearby, and I banged the hell out of her. She was skinny and right around 18. After I came and pulled my dick out, she had gotten so horny, that she grabbed my dick and sucked it clean. That was like the first day of the trip and I neve saw her again. She might have just been pissed that night with her boyfriend and came out and ran into me and just got wild. What a bummer that I could not find her again and I don't even know what she looks like.

I've had quite a few experiences like that just banging the chick practically on the spot that I met her. I'm telling you as hot as the Jamaican women are, those from the 'west end" of Negril, whereever that is, get hotter than hot.

I met a guy there once from Minnesota I believe, in his 60's and much more of an expert than me. I would stand out on the strip with him in mo bay or around the park and he showed me that even quite young females were on the prowl. But he didn't fuck as much as me since I average four sessions a day. I spend more time fucking and less time courting than he did.

The pool of young beautiful women there is practically limitless. I get calls all the time here from there. I'm going back in April.

last time I was there, I was very limited in being able to get out of the hotel. So I basically had two women, one 26 and one 22 on an alternate basis, averaging two times each. That wore me out a bit. It got to the point of the sessions getting longer and longer. Even with that schedule and my limitation of not getting out at night, I managed to screw a total of about 7 or 8 different woman, and set up a few new prospects for my next trip.

Brenda did not show up at 8:00AM, nor had I expected that she would. I lolled in bed for a while and actually nodded off. Then at 8:20 the door slid open and within a few seconds she was sitting on the far side of the bed. She was attired exactly as she had been the two previous days. The chino skirt, and the conservative blouse were freshly laundered. The baseball cap, however, sported a different logo. Today it was a New York Yankees cap, an apparition guaranteed to darken the mood of any life long Red Sox fan. I was just waking up no less.

The first thing she said was, “I have to get to work.”

“That’s nice”, I responded. “Couldn’t you have gotten here earlier?”

“I had to get the kids off to school.”

She continued talking for a couple of minutes and I began to think that getting to work wasn’t quite as crucial as she had initially made it seem. This conclusion persuaded me to venture an idea,

“Why don’t you get out of those clothes, take off that bad hat and we’ll do what we can in the little time we have.”

Surprisingly Brenda proceeded to accept my suggestion and was under the covers in less than a minute. Whereupon she announced she did not want to do anything but hug and kiss. I took this to mean that anal intercourse was not on the menu,

This woman was clearly having the kind of approach/avoidance problem you learn about in Psychology 101. The closer she got, the greater her urge to pull away.

At this point I was of two minds. I didn’t much care what we did. By 11:15 Kendra would be exactly where Brenda was at the moment. It was thus a certainty that I’d be getting more than my share in only a short while.

At the same time it was hard to ignore Brenda’s enormous breasts which were now unclad and within easy reach. I decided to show my appreciation for these big, soft globes by circling an areola the size of a hockey puck with my tongue while lightly pinching the very erect and large nipple of the other breast between thumb and forefinger. It was apparent that Brenda enjoyed this activity and I was sure the next step was imminent.

Unfortunately it wasn’t. Just when I began to get really turned on she decided she didn’t want to proceed. I protested to the degree I thought reasonable, and told her this wasn’t much fun for yours truly.

Her response was simple enough. “Don’t worry, it’s going to happen.”

“Well it had better happen within the next two days because by Saturday noon I am no longer available for you to tease.”

She gave evidence of understanding this reasoning and then asked if we could take a shower. She was afraid that she had picked up the scent of my cologne and that her aunt would catch on to her hanky panky. Any remnants of my cologne were barely discernable at this point in the morning. The shower, however, was yet another opportunity to play with those enormous boobs. I made sure they were well soaped and very clean by the time we were ready for toweling off.

By the time Brenda had departed we agreed she would arrive again the next morning and make a heroic effort to be early enough for the deed to get done.

Then I glanced at my watch and realized that much needed to be accomplished before Kendra’s arrival.

First on the agenda was a cup of coffee and my usual morning encounter with the gorgeous waitress. On this particular morning she was no less beautiful and unfortunately not more than one day older.

Then I needed to check in with Anne to see if she had decided to join me for dinner. When I walked in the door Anne’s demeanor suggested that I’d be dining alone or with someone else. She was now in a quite serious mood and said that she had to tell me something. I indicated my eagerness to listen.

In doing so I learned that Anne was married, had three kiddies, and could not possibly be away from the house after 6:00PM without being suspected of messing around. Strangely enough, after telling me this major news she suggested we have lunch.

I thought this a perfect opportunity to make my intentions clear. I explained that as enjoyable as it might be to have a pleasant repast in her company, my real motive was a desire to engage in mad, passionate sex with her. I saw no way we could accomplish that during her lunch hour. I hate to be rushed. We agreed, however to keep the discussion alive on my next visit.

Then I hustled back and waited for Kendra to show up. She was only half an hour late, which I considered downright prompt for Jamaican time. She wasn’t in the room ten seconds before she was pulling a joint out of her purse and asking if I partook. Needless to say we partook.

Then (no surprise here) we get hungry and order lunch sent up. After we eat and consume another joint down to the very nub we proceed to have sex several times over the course of the afternoon. In between the sex we giggled a lot. I tell you, when you combine Vitamin C with high-grade ganja, and a beautiful woman in bed it makes for a great overall experience.

When Kendra left for work at 7:00 I went down to the Wexford Grill and had some incredibly good ribs. Then, since it was my next-to-last night I kept my resolution to experience the joint Ford had recommended. As I have previously explained it did not disappoint. But enough was enough. I was exhausted and after taking in the scene for maybe half an hour I was back to the hotel and in the sack by about 10:00.

Oh, one more thing. Maybe it was the "smoke", maybe it was my engaging personality, but Kendra never asked for the money we had agreed upon. I had no intention of cheating her so I figured I'd call her before I left town.

How did she forget her money?

Sounds like you are rolling along there.

One out of three is a little weak. 2 and 1/2 out of three should be the norm.

We come now to the next-to-last chapter. It has been my experience that “last nights” are often quite eventful. This was certainly no exception.

Also, to refresh the memory of those who are just picking up on this series, we are talking here only about what is available for free (though no woman is ever really free) in Mo-Bay.

I awoke from a sound sleep and become aware that Brenda was now in bed with me. Sure enough it’s 8:00 in the morning and she has kept her promise. This is good news! There’s nothing I like much better than “ripping one off” first thing in the morning.

Just as I was about to do that very thing Brenda says, “I have some bad news.”

“And what is that?” I query.

“I have my monthlies.”

Now I was really agitated. Yesterday she’s afraid and today she’s “on the rag”. Yes, it was a rag not a string. I made my displeasure apparent with a good deal of gusto. This outburst was sufficient to induce Brenda into a moderately enthusiastic BBBJ but I was nonetheless too cranky about “the monthlies” to reach a climax. After ten minutes or so Brenda and I showered for the second straight day and agreed to be in touch the next time I visited.

It turned out to be a good thing I did not waste an orgasm. I now know that Brenda is not in any plans I have for the future. The effort, however, was not a total loss.

I then proceed to my usual morning stop for a quick coffee and juice. The same girl who had served me these past three days looked more gorgeous than ever. Let’s call her Diana. I figured she was maybe 19, but no way a day older.

On this day I sat with two local guys and we got to talking about the very point I have been making in this series of reports, namely how willing Jamaican woman seem to be to go out with old and pale strangers, or at least consider the idea.

They agreed with my observation and when I mentioned how lovely Diana was they suggested that I ask her out. I said, “Are you shitting me?”. “I’m old enough to be her grandfather let alone her father.” They said it would not matter. I bet them each $100 Jamaican that it would.

When she came by with a coffee refill I said, “Diana, I have three questions for you. First, are you married? (I’d learned at least one lesson by now) Second do you have a boyfriend?” She says, “No to both, what’s the third?”

“Want to have dinner with me tonight?”

“Sure”, she said. Then she added, “Can I bring my girlfriend?” I said, “I’m not sure I can handle two beautiful Jamaican woman at once”.

Then, honest to God, she said, “Don’t worry we’ll take care of all your needs”.

She told me she gets out of work at 3:30, and we agreed I would pick her and the friend up at the restaurant at that time. Then I paid off my J $100 bet and departed after leaving Diana a nice tip.

On this, my last full day, I was obligated to check out some real estate for a friend. This involved a sixty-mile taxi ride with Dean. Automobile travel in Jamaica is always dicey and this day proved no different. Somebody had run smack into a tree that was fifty yards off the road and was either well dead or very unhealthy as a result. Another doped out rasta banged into a bull weighing about a ton. It was not a good day for either the deceased bull or the driver of the unguided missile.

Both mishaps caused long traffic jams with all the attendant blasting of horns and native angst. We eventually made it back to the hotel by mid-afternoon, time enough for me to shower and get ready for my date with Diana and her friend.

But wait. I also had a dinner date with Carol. Despite the prospect of a duet with Diana and company their was no way I was going to be a “no show” for Carol. The chemistry had been too good. It might have been fun to see if Diana and her friend showed up but that was altogether too much temptation. I decided to wait until the appointed hour with Carol.

During this hiatus I called Kendra and reminded her that she had not collected the fee we had agreed upon for her services the previous day.
"Forget it", she said. "I had a nice time. You call me the next time you are in Mo-Bay and we'll do it again." I agreed but have subsequently sent her some great pictures of herself and enclosed a whole twenty dollars in the envelope.

Carol was at Margaritaville before me and was waiting outside. We grabbed a table and she ordered a Coke. Two or three cokes later and the same amount of Margaritas for me the conversation was going so well I felt confident to suggest we go to my room to “freshen up” before dinner. She agreed.

Once in the room I put my arms on her shoulders and kissed her. It was a “testing the waters” kiss. You know, just a hint of tongue. Then, in one of those magic moments you never forget it turned into much, much more. Bells went off, fireworks soared, and the first notes of Beethoven’s Fifth blasted into my brain.

She melted into my arms and clothes were flying in every direction. What followed was two hours of the most amazing sex I have ever had. At times it became an outer body experience where I as watching myself in a porno flick.

I have always thought about, and I bet you have too, the studs in those movies who last so long. Well in the porn flicks they simply repeat the same footage over and over. What was happening now was an overwhelming desire on my part to make this last as long as possible; forever if possible.

She was incredible! She would move from one position to another with the grace of a ballerina. This was not a series of “positions” but a symphony of sex with one movement following the next in perfect harmony. Everything she did was exactly the way I like it. No instructions were necessary. Before I needed to say “Lick my balls,” she was licking my balls. Just as I was wanting her in reverse cowgirl she flowed into reverse cowgirl.

Meanwhile my enthusiasm and elation were having a similar effect on Carol. Her clit and nearby regions had attracted plenty of tongue attention. The result was multiple orgasms that were absolutely, undeniably the real deal. The contractions and my wet face were more than sufficient proof.

At about 9:00 there was a slight pause. She looked at me and said, “Billy Bob, I am so hungry,” “Of course,” I said, “We were supposed to eat. Let’s go.” Happily I had not yet had an orgasm because their was much more to come.

As part of the overall assignation plan my intention had been to take Carol to a very nice restaurant. The fact that success was achieved before dinner did not seem like any reason to downgrade the cuisine. When we arrived it was clear that the woman had never set foot in an establishment of this kind nor was she accustomed to the nuances of fine dining etiquette. Like using utensils, for example. When the appetizers arrived I put the napkin in her lap and replaced the spoon with the small fork.

In response to my questions she began telling me her life story. She was born and raised in a hill town that is so small it cannot be found on a fairly detailed map of the country. The nearest metropolis is Mandeville, and that’s about 20 miles away. If you know Jamaican geography this should tell you something.

She’s 25 years old and had been engaged for the past three years to marry a man from the same town. It seems that he had immigrated to the Cayman Islands and promised to send for her once he had established himself in a position of consequence. Instead he established himself with another woman and then married the lady.

Having recently learned this distressing news Carol decided to leave the tiny burg where she was raised and head to Mo-Bay, the Jamaican equivalent of “Tinsel Town”. Since she was trained as a hair-dresser she figured it would be easy to win fame and fortune in a matter of a week or so. Her purse contained less than a hundred dollars US, her life savings, an amount she thought would be sufficient for at least a month. At his point she had been in Mo-Bay about three weeks and the money was gone.

The good news was that she had found a job in the salon at the mall where I had met her and she had also rented a decent apartment using most of her savings and a loan from the salon owner as a deposit. On the negative side of the ledger she was making between $50.00 and $60.00 US a week and the apartment rent was $200 per month. I’m no financial genius but it seemed to me that this might be cutting things a bit tight.

As she was relating the story I noticed that Carol was again eating everything in sight. She ate all of the bread in the basket. She ate all of her appetizer and half of mine. I thought she might eat the napkin. Then she said, “Bill, you know tonight you fed me dinner. Do you know when the last time was that I had a dinner?”

I am embarrassed to say the thought had never occurred to me. It turned out to have been well over three weeks. In fact her only other sit down meal since she had been in Mo-Bay had been the lunch with me at Kentucky Fried. Otherwise it was junk food, bananas, more junk food, some cereal and junk food.

As dinner continued I learned a great deal more. Most of it is now between Carol and me and has become too personal for this or any public report. I learned that she was an incredibly naïve, totally sincere, and disarmingly honest person. Though my initial reaction to many of the things she told me was outright skepticism, I am now positive that everything was and is completely true.

There are several reasons for my confidence. The most important was “the airport test”. I’ll tell you about that later. Secondly, I have tried every trick in the book to catch her in some inconsistency or little fib. These efforts have produced not even the sniff of a lie.

After dinner we went back to the hotel and had more incredible sex until we were both exhausted. Somewhere around six I woke up and watched her sleep for awhile. Then, unable to keep any distance we ended up making love in the shower and then in bed. This time it was only about two and a half hours.

At this point I did not have much time to pack. As I was doing so she looked at me and said, “Bill, I wish you could just pack me in your bag and take me with you.” I wished I could as well.

At the airport she asked for a kiss before I left. It was a repeat of the one that happened at the hotel. Unbelievably I was immediately “turned on” and wanted to do it again right then and there.

I resisted in favor of “the airport test”. I walked away from her and went at least thirty yards inside the lobby. Then I turned around and she was walking away. I went out the door and yelled to her. She stopped and we approached one another. Then I slipped a hundred US into her hand, kissed her cheek, and departed. She had never asked for a penny.

Some readers of this long thread will now conclude that Billy Bob is both a sentimental sap, and a moron for paying a girl who asked for nothing. Others will feel deceived. Haven’t these last five reports been about what is available in Mo-Bay for free? Why would you pay someone who did not ask for anything, especially after buying her a lunch and dinner?

My answer brings us back to the very nice report by Snake 27 where he gave the girl money even though they did not have sex. It’s very simple. Sometimes you just have to do the right thing. Snake 27 could not have left that room, and I could not have left that country without giving something to the girl in return for what we had been given. And after knowing her I would have given Carol the buck regardless of whether we had sex.

Now did I inflate market? Will every Jamaican woman now expect a Ben Franklin from every American man just for showing up? I don’t think so, and I have at least some evidence of that.

It has now been two months since I left Mo-Bay. Carol and I talk on the phone twice a week. She has asked for nothing and yet I know that once the rent is paid not much remains. So, at least in this case, being fair did not induce undue or even a little greed.

In the next month or so I plan a return trip to Mo-Bay. My plan is to spend all of the first day in bed. After that, assuming I am still alive, she insists we go visit the family in Lower Cornbush Parish or wherever the hell she lives. I figure that scene will be something like a reverse “Guess Who’s Coming To Dinner’’, but she is insistent.

So my next trip to Jamaica will not be a mongering trip. This does not mean I will stop mongering. It means that I no longer need to monger in Jamaica.

You've shown us how it can be done, Billy Bob. Anyone who can afford to travel to Jamaica and stay a week can afford the professionals, but why we all like semi-pro's and non-pro's is the possibility of real passion and positive emotion, not just a swift and cold liason. Obviously the money makes us more attractive, but the experience is still much more enjoyable even though it may turn out to be fleeting and illusory. I probably should have given it more patience like you did. FWIW, I've been thinking that in the USA there must be semi-pro action since large parts of the population live in nearly 3rd world poverty. I've realized that if you're nice, presentable (e.g. a mature Steve McQueen like you), and have some $$$, you can find a mistress. And so I now have a beautiful 21 y.o. African American girlfriend since last Oct (I met her in a bar in between booking and travelling to Jamaica). She's a lovely girl who isn't in Eros or Craigslist and certainly doesn't walk the streets. As she is much younger than me, we both know the limits of the deal. So, I might make it back to Jamaica sometime, but I'm not in a hurry at the moment.

Heading to Montego Bay next week for a few days and would appreciate any recent updates. Interested in best bars/clubs for daytime and nitetime action. It seems like most of the reports are recommending massage parlours and street walkers so I would really appreciate any updates dealing with bars/clubs that the ladies party/drink at so that I can have a relaxed beverage/conversation with the ladies and take it from there.

Thanks in advance for any info,

Pete

GREAT REPORTS Billy,

Any pic?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Billy Bob]

Some readers of this long thread will now conclude that Billy Bob is both a sentimental sap, and a moron for paying a girl who asked for nothing. Others will feel deceived. Haven’t these last five reports been about what is available in Mo-Bay for free? Why would you pay someone who did not ask for anything, especially after buying her a lunch and dinner?

[/QUOTE]

I'd only say that you're being a sentimental sap if the girl is a pro and playing you mercilessly.

But since she's not a pro, the relationship was not one of business, but one of more serious nature. So the money wasn't for the sex but for her continued survival.

Frankly I would have done the same thing too, without hesitation. Especially after the grand sexual acrobatics you shared with her.

If she really is who she says she is, then she's one in a million - congratulations!

Thanks and Update

NJ Pete. My reports originate from a trip in early December so I think you can consider the information quite current. The early reports and those by Ford that precede mine have the most hard-core information. I think you are looking for a club like you'd find in Costa Rica. Kamur, for example.

If you read my report and the definitive one by Ford on the Goldfinger Club you'll see that the Mo-Bay scene is quite different. If you can sit back, relax and be real comfortable you're a better (and much bigger) man than I am.

Thanks Wet Nose. So far so good. I talk to her twice a week and have not yet received even one desperate plea for money or even a hint that she would like me to send some. I’m going back to see her in three weeks. She seems primarily excited about having a lot of sex and taking me to meet the family. That involves a trek into the mountains to the hamlet where she was born and raised. I can’t wait to see the expression on Daddy’s face when he catches sight of me. I hope he is more understanding than old Spencer Tracy was.

Xaam 1. Yes! I have pictures, and I promised to post them. My problem is getting them sized correctly to meet Jackson’s requirements. I’m not exactly a techno geek when it comes to this stuff. I’m working on it. There will, of course, be no pictures of the lady I refer to above. Those are between us.

[QUOTE=Billy Bob]Thanks and Update

NJ Pete. My reports originate from a trip in early December so I think you can consider the information quite current. The early reports and those by Ford that precede mine have the most hard-core information. I think you are looking for a club like you'd find in Costa Rica. Kamur, for example.

If you read my report and the definitive one by Ford on the Goldfinger Club you'll see that the Mo-Bay scene is quite different. If you can sit back, relax and be real comfortable you're a better (and much bigger) man than I am.

Thanks Wet Nose. So far so good. I talk to her twice a week and have not yet received even one desperate plea for money or even a hint that she would like me to send some. I’m going back to see her in three weeks. She seems primarily excited about having a lot of sex and taking me to meet the family. That involves a trek into the mountains to the hamlet where she was born and raised. I can’t wait to see the expression on Daddy’s face when he catches sight of me. I hope he is more understanding than old Spencer Tracy was.

Xaam 1. Yes! I have pictures, and I promised to post them. My problem is getting them sized correctly to meet Jackson’s requirements. I’m not exactly a techno geek when it comes to this stuff. I’m working on it. There will, of course, be no pictures of the lady I refer to above. Those are between us.[/QUOTE]

I look forward to your next report. This country interests me very much. Friends have suggested visiting.

Many thanks to those of you have who have PM’d and or commented on the reports of my first trip to Jamaica. I have just returned from my second visit and happily report that my relationship with the lady I met in December continued as if I had never left. She’s definitely not a pro. She never asked for a dime. We had one minor disagreement. Apart from that it was the most incredible sex of my life, and among the happiest four days.

About all we did, in fact, was have sex, eat, sleep, have sex, eat, and have sex. We also laughed and talked a lot. After the second day she stopped counting orgasms and by the fourth day they had become veritable gushers. Apart from bondage and costumes (neither or which I am “into”) we did everything I have ever seen two people do to one another sexually.

Every so often I would wonder how a guy my age could be lucky enough to be walking around with someone this beautiful and having sex with her no less.

The family meeting went off as well as can be expected when you consider I’m probably old enough to be her father’s father.

As a reminder, the point of my extended series was that unless you resemble the Hunchback of Notre Dame you are very likely to score for free in Mo-Bay. Since I had already discovered my own ultimate fantasy I was not on the hunt.

One evening, however, an incident occurred that more than proves the point I have been making. My lady and I were having dinner and were joined by a friend of hers. She wanted to introduce us because of my intention to bring a friend with me on my next visit. So I was sitting with two women.

The waitress was a tall girl somewhere between 22 and 26. She was by no means beautiful, but she had a very exotic look. None of you would kick her out of a bed.

I tend to chat with waitresses (or waiters for that matter) primarily as a means of improving the service. In Jamaica this is especially important. Somewhere along the line I realized that this girl was more than just chatting.

At one point I said to my two companions, “Is it my imagination, or is she coming on to me?” The two of them replied in unison. “She’s definitely coming on to you.”

The three of us then had a discussion about why this happens. I am an old white guy who looks like Jimmy Carter. She’s an attractive young woman who works in a place with at least twenty good looking black men in her age group.

My two female companions told me exactly why this phenomenon occurs. You might think it’s because they see old white guys as possible bankrolls. That is not the reason, at least not the primary one. I have now heard the real reason enough to be sure of it.

My friend Alan once advised me to keep certain information about Jamaica to myself. It was good advice and I have followed it ever since. All I can tell you is that if you spend three days in Mo-Bay you’ll know as well as I do why you’re getting more than your fair share of attention from some really gorgeous women.

As she was serving dessert the waitress asked me whether I was married. I told her I was. She asked if I had a girl friend. I gestured toward Carol and said I did. Earlier she had asked me where I was staying and I had told her.

When we got back to the room Carol and I made love and then she went into the bathroom. Soon after that the phone rang. Lo and behold it was the waitress. She has my name from the credit card and she’s put it together with where I told her I was staying. She asks if she can come up.

Now as much as I like a nice duet (or trio as the case may be) there is no way that will fly with Ms. Carol. I am a very happy camper and I am not about to screw it up. So I suggest her visit might be a bit awkward. She says, “That’s too bad” and then hangs up.

Carol comes out and says, "Who was that?" I tell her, "the waitress." She is about as surprised by that news as she is with the fact that the moon is in the sky.

As I said when I began this series. If I were you, and liked black women, I would get on the next plane to Mo-Bay.

Gentlemen,

I will be visiting Mobay at the end of May. Are there any active MPs, or do you have to rely mainly on the street action? Just curious.

Trying clicking back just one page!

Billy Bob,

Sorry for my RTFF moment! I have gone back and read all of your excellent reports and those of all the other contributors. I will check out the scene and report back here myself after the trip.

Boxcc"

You'll hear that a lot.

PM me if you want more information on the free stuff. Based on my last trip I would discount the SW scene completely. The MP scene is quite good at the high end, but use your visit to check out longer term possibilities.

BB

Billy Bob, your reports are truely inspiring. you give us hope old, and young alike that there are possiblities for mongers or any age.

I was wondering if anyone on this thread has any idea on how to get an apartment for a month or so while in Mo-Bay or Kinston.

I think I would like to go down there and see for my self what its like. I really am not a hotel person and would prefer to find an apartment.

Whats the going rental rate down there for a one room apartment down there. It can be in the enter or near by the center.

2001,

I do not recommend Kingston unless you are very familliar. Personally I love Kgn., but I live here. MoBay is much better. Also you should consider Negril for long term rental. PM me and we can discuss. Kingston is only for those that know their way around. If its your first journey you should play between MoBay and Negril.

Enjoy!

I agree with Husky. No way I'd venture into Kingston. You can find scary enough places in Mo-Bay without risking life and limb elsewhere. Just check back to Ford's Report on The Gold Finger Club.

There are some great apartment deals in Mo-Bay. The Wexford has some apartments and they are going for less now than in "high" season. You can negotiate a rate if you call the manager.

I think I might be figuring this out. So I will add a few more in subsequent postings. Let's see if we can get a little publicity for Jamaica and Mo-Bay. This the woman I refer to as "Kendra" in my reports.

And a couple more!

And the last one.

I'd like to start off by thanking Billy Bob, Ford and Lion Killer for their great reports.

I've been to the DR twice in the last two years, combining scuba diving and mongering. After reading your reports on MB, I'm considering heading there next time.

I'm form the East coast (Boston) and am wondering if you traveled on package Deals (flight and hotel) or made seperate arrangements. Does the Wexford have a website? Are any of the AI's girl freindly? Billy Bob..If I stay at the Wexford, I'll certainly look up those two doormen that you mentioned.

Once again thanks for all the good information. Feel free to PM me with anything else that you might feel that I need to know.

Sailor02

[QUOTE=Sailor02]I'd like to start off by thanking Billy Bob, Ford and Lion Killer for their great reports.

I've been to the DR twice in the last two years, combining scuba diving and mongering. After reading your reports on MB, I'm considering heading there next time.

I'm form the East coast (Boston) and am wondering if you traveled on package Deals (flight and hotel) or made seperate arrangements. Does the Wexford have a website? Are any of the AI's girl freindly? Billy Bob..If I stay at the Wexford, I'll certainly look up those two doormen that you mentioned.

Once again thanks for all the good information. Feel free to PM me with anything else that you might feel that I need to know.

Sailor02[/QUOTE]

Hi Sailor,

You might try [url]http://www.thewexfordhotel.com/[/url].

The Wexford Hotel is nice but its trying to maintain a somewhat upscale local clientele so its definitely going to cost you a few $$. The "all-ins" are going to be a substanially better value all around but getting a guest into an "all-in" will be next to impossible. With the extra charges they access you or the amount of "tips" you're going to have to hand out to security - you're better off at the Wexford.

I went to Mobay on the way to Curacao. My trip was really for the purposes of returning to CUR but I got a good price on an Air Jamaica flight out of New York to Curacao that had a stopover in MoBay so I stayed there for about 5 days. I was glad I did, I had a good time.

*Tips- Consider going on Travelocity or the Wexford Hotel website the night before you leave and try to book a room. Continue the booking process right up to the point where it says "press this button and your reservation is confirmed". (this means you can be certain there is definitely a room available) But then don't press the button, back click out of the site and go to MoBay w/o a resevation and negotiate something at the front desk when you arrive.

A single is priced at $90 a night but I saw several guests negotiate rooms in the $65 to $70 a night range with the clerk at the front desk while I was there.

* Tips - Never pay for a double always pay for a single. Double rooms need a guest to arrive with you when you check in. The "guests" that you will be bringing in will be escorted up the back staircase by security for a $3 tip at night - your guests are going to be different "guests" - no need to pay for a double room. ;)

*Tips - Scour the [url]www.airjamaica.com[/url] website for flight deals. I have noticed they sometimes they offer unadvertised specials that escape the notice of sites like travelocity and orbitz etc. Air Jamaica is a nice airline.

cheers mate and enjoy your trip! :)

Billy Bob,

I just saw you posted pics of Kendra. Very nice! Pretty face and very sexy, long athletic body. Nice! :)

Billy,

Nice pics buddy. Thxs and lets see more.

Thanks guys. I have a lovely picture of Kendra's "fingernails" that somehow did not get included because of my incredible technical ineptitude. I shall attend to this oversight when I get back from a trip I am currently in the middle of.

As an update:

You will remember the girl I called Carol. Well, gentlemen, she has arrived in the Land of the Free and the Brave. She felt "the distance was too great", so she wangled herself into some cultural exchange program that allows her to stay here while she trains to be a health care profressional, i.e. indefinitely. At present I am sure this means emptying bedpans, and making beds, but it's more than okay by me. And great for her. Getting any woman out of Jamiaca is a good thing.

She's far enough away for it to be a trip, but not so far it needs a lot of explanation on the homefront. I can live with this. Thanks Ford! This would not have happened but for your enthusiastic review of Mo-Bay.

Meanwhile, for me, Kendra is indeed the body ideal. Unfortunately there is this thing called "chemistry". She's weeded out most of the time.

Okay dudes, as promised, here's the last one from the series.

Anybody in town then? I am going solo but would not mind a wingman. I have travelled extensively in the world and look foward to seeing Mo bay. PM me if your around.

[QUOTE=ap1st]Anybody in town then? I am going solo but would not mind a wingman. I have travelled extensively in the world and look foward to seeing Mo bay. PM me if your around.[/QUOTE]

Sorry AP1st, I'll be back in the Dominican Republic that weekend but I've been getting a craving to go back to MoBay also, soon.

Have a great trip! (I'm sure you will) :)

my miss jamaica is now here. she's become a legal immigrant. and obviously easier to connect with.

that said, the idea of being in mo-bay with you and the mighty ford is such an appealing thought that i might just sign on.

if you'd like a phone number for the lady in the mirror send me a pm. i can't guarantee it will be any good. they run out of money all the time and have to change their numbers, but i do know the girl's real name and that's a good start if she appeeals to you.

Yes, the idea of tacking along with Master Ford mongering in Montego Bay in Jamaica and Santa Domingo in DR is very appealing.

Master Ford, care to set up a traveling plan?

Husky...are you a yardie?

I'll be in Jamaica in early July, but not sure the exact dates yet. ap1st...Ford...I'll try to keep your dates in mind when I schedule. If the timing works out right, we can get together.

I have over 100 trips to Jamaica, but haven't really done any mongering while there, but have had some good fun with local non-pros as well as tourists. Most of my mongering is in St Maarten, Aruba and Curacao. (I have a Latina fetish)

I have been to both Hedos several times and had great times there as well.

I usually stay at Gloustershire but will probably try Wexford on the next trip.

pogo

I'll be in Montego Bay next month and will be looking for some action. I wouldn't be able to take any dates to my hotel room, so I need to know where I could go that will accomadate me.

[QUOTE=Pogostick]Husky...are you a yardie?

I'll be in Jamaica in early July, but not sure the exact dates yet. ap1st...Ford...I'll try to keep your dates in mind when I schedule. If the timing works out right, we can get together.

I have over 100 trips to Jamaica, but haven't really done any mongering while there, but have had some good fun with local non-pros as well as tourists. Most of my mongering is in St Maarten, Aruba and Curacao. (I have a Latina fetish)

I have been to both Hedos several times and had great times there as well.

I usually stay at Gloustershire but will probably try Wexford on the next trip.

pogo[/QUOTE]

...........hey Pogo. I don't have dates in MoBay. I said I'd be in the DR on that weekend, but I'd certainly consider a return to MoBay sometime this year.

"Practice your patois guys, on 2nd thought don't worry about that, because the girls speak the universal language - cool cummings" :D

Very good Husky Babalin, very good! :D

Fred A:

Not to be rude, but if you browse back maybe a page or two you will learn exactly where and how to find a your ideal vision of a Jamaican woman without taking her back to the hotel.

But the fact that you cannot do so is unfortunate indeed!

And Ford, despite the now resident J-Lady, I'm considering Cartegenia.
When will you be there?

BB

[QUOTE=Husky Babalin]pogo, you must of had a gf in tow your hundred visits. But it sounds like you love ja. Now it maybe jas time to show you some loving.

Let me throw something out here, at this point I planning a punters party for members that will be in ja July 1st. Plan to have around 10 girls, none over 24 yo, and all ready for some fun and action. How many guys want to cumm?

"strictly sleng teng me a deal with! '

Practice your patois guys, on 2nd thought don't worry about that, because the girls speak the universal language cool cummings![/QUOTE]


I do love Jamaica and while I have had a GF in tow a few times,I have also had some wonderful times with Jamaican women on my travels but have never paid a dime to a pro while there. There's too much good free stuff available! However I do want to try one of the MPs sometime.

I went to the Doll House near the Wexford only once. Found it lacking a bit. High cover charge at the door $10. Dancers were bored, didn't take anything off. Beer was around $5...ladies drinks around $10. Girls were all Eastern European. I did take one to the back room for a private dance. That wasn't too bad as she allowed full contact for $20. I am sure I could have negotiated for more services, but was content with getting my finger wet as she just didn't turn me on enough for more.

I did ask about taking a girl to my room...$300 for 3 hours. I thought about how much free stuff there is in Jah-land and also about how many fine young Latinas that $300 would get me in St Maarten the following week and decided that wasn't worth it either. Ended up heading back to the hotel with a Jamaican tourist from Kingston I met at M-ville so all was not lost (including my money!)

Unfortunately, I won't be there on the first but probably a week or so later. If anyone is around we can meet up.

pogo

Hi Pogo,

Count me in. Send me a private message with contact information.

Alan

[QUOTE=Billy Bob]Fred A:

Not to be rude, but if you browse back maybe a page or two you will learn exactly where and how to find a your ideal vision of a Jamaican woman without taking her back to the hotel.

But the fact that you cannot do so is unfortunate indeed!

And Ford, despite the now resident J-Lady, I'm considering Cartegenia.
When will you be there?

BB[/QUOTE]

I will be in the DR next week. Central America in September with "Fantasy" But I have 10 days in November open. Cartagena is nice, but the "touts" can be tough. ("Touts" - street seller/desplazados "senor need a pair of sunglasses, t-shirt, rolex watch?") They are even worse than they are in Montego Bay.

Was thinking of maybe doing a Curacao trip in Nov - with another stop off in MoBay? Always a thought.......;)

cheers...........

[QUOTE=Ford]I will be in the DR next week. Central America in September with "Fantasy" But I have 10 days in November open. Cartagena is nice, but the "touts" can be tough. ("Touts" - street seller/desplazados "senor need a pair of sunglasses, t-shirt, rolex watch?") They are even worse than they are in Montego Bay.

Was thinking of maybe doing a Curacao trip in Nov - with another stop off in MoBay? Always a thought.......;)

At my advanced age I'm immune to the touts. Not much I haven't heard.
My usual response to the Rolex pitch goes something like:

"¡Mierda santa! ¡Un Rolex genuino! Puedo comprar uno de ésos en Nueva York para 5000 pesos. Mas o menos.

I find the Jamaican scams far more interesting and complex. It's easy to get "taken" good. But if you lads who are headed down soon would like to be the "takers" instead of the "takees", get yourself a couple of unlocked Motorola RAZR phones from E-Bay. They need to be black. Your profits could well be substantial enough to pay for the trip. The Wexford at least.

So Ford, the Cartagena curiosity comes from Jackson's Photo Gallery as seen right here. It just seems like they have a higher percentage of incredible women than anywhere else. And yes, I've been to the DR & CR!

I could do something early in November. But your Jamaica idea is worth considering. Then I'd be in Jamaica cheating on my wife as well as my Jamaican mistress who now is in the US. How degenerate can one person possibly be?

hi bb,

cartagena does have amazing women. no arguement. i enjoyed my time there. the touts are like nothing on this earth short of rio!! i mean seriously!

you're enjoying a meal at an open-air restaurant and some guy will walk up to you and put a 6 foot long perforated board full of "knock-off" sunglasses right in your face while you're trying to take bite of food! as you waive him off and push the board out of your face another guy drapes a stack of tee-shirts over your shoulder. i mean infuriating!

here's another idea. airjamaica does offer (at different times of the year) "island hopper" fares.

if you are flying out of a us city that offers airjam service (ny, atl, chic, lax, balt, phil) you can fly to mobay and add an additional island to your trip on the cheap! this is what i did last fall. flew from jfk to mobay and linked to curacao.

have you seen some of the colombiana hotties on curacao? safe island, no touts, good food, comfortable beach vibe, pretty colombianas and dominicanas available and its an island owned by the dutch so all hotels are guest friendly - no hassles. you can even re-visit one of your little jamaican cuties first with this arrangement.

might be worth looking into. ;)

(or if you feel real adventurous consider medellin- my god what a place!!) :)

just my 2 cents................

Thanks Ford:

The most interesting thing about a return trip to Jamaica was the possibility of having you as the wingman. I’d feel a shit load more comfortable in the Club Goldfinger with a plus six foot honcho known to “pack heat” than I do with a whacked out Jamaican taxi driver who may or may not be on my side in the event of a conflict. You and I would have some party in that place, that’s for sure. They’d remember the evening!

Your Curacao thought is interesting. But I need to study the thread. I’m not about to accuse fellow mongers of failing to RTFF without doing so myself.

From the little I have seen it is clearly an option to Cartagena.

Frankly I have accomplished about all a man can in Jamaica. I’ll always have a great time there, but what with my Miss Jamaica now available on these shores it is less a challenge than before.

And I do like a challenge.

Actually the previous headline. "Food" was a typo.

I have always considered the island of Curacao a comfortable and welcoming alternative to mainland Colombia. Colombia is one of my favorite travel destinations but [candidly] I've never felt %100 secure there. Things have improved drastically however, over the past several years.

But anyway, this is the MoBay board and my tip is that AirJamaica's island hopper flights (as advertised) may be a economical way to expand your travel experiences in the caribbean w/o breaking the bank. :)

cheers...........

I'm heading to Ocho Rios this Wednesday (12th) for about 3 days and then to Mobay for a few more.

Any fellow mongers gonna be on island? If so...lets meet for a drink

pogo

Hey Pogo, you must be back by now! So what went down? Or in? And how often?

We're waiting for your report and maybe some pix.

Hope it was a great time.

I posted this on several other boards so I figured I'd post it here also.

I realize that the recent homeland security flight restrictions means you're going to have to put your mouthwash, shampoo, cologne, toothpaste and rogaine :) in your checked bags rather than your carry-on bags but did you see some of the deals American Airlines is offering to the caribbean this fall??

The deals to MBJ represents perhaps the best "bang for your buck" deal of any place in the western hemisphere out of a major city in the U.S.

Atlanta to MBJ..................$310 (plus tax)
Baltimore to MBJ................$302
Boston to MBJ...................$317
Charlotte to MBJ................$280
Chicago to MBJ..................$340
Dallas to MBJ....................$360
Miami to MBJ....................$228
NYC (JFK) to MBJ..............$272
LAX to MBJ......................$397
Philadelphia to MBJ............$323
Washington(Reagan) to MBJ$320

When you take into account the price of the girls down in MBJ there really is no other deal that even comes close to the value here.

(I think tickets have to be purchased by Aug 16th for trips thru December)

cheers, mates.................:)

Be careful out there
[url]http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,,20157157-421,00.html?from=rss[/url]

[QUOTE=Pogostick]Be careful out there
[url]http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,,20157157-421,00.html?from=rss[/url][/QUOTE]

Wow! Talk about a reality check. If a girl figures out that its more profitable to have her brother or boyfriend burst into the room and try to "strong arm" her client rather than wait and collect money for her service, it can get real scary. :(

Nice post Pogo. Good heads up!

There but for the grace of the Lord go all of us! I just hope my extensive, carefree reports on the joys (and relative safety) of Mo-Bay were not the sole inducement for this guy's travel decision.

My little honey (fortunately now in the USA) assures me Jamaica is "not a safe place". "You have to be very careful who you hook up with, especially the hustlers".

So if you want to play in Jamaica (and I still think it's a great place) go back to Ford's recommendation and stay at the Wexford. I think they are very security conscious and those two bellmen really watch out for your ass.

As for me, I still deciding between Curacao and Cartagena for my next adventure.

Great heads up Pogo. So how was your trip?

Scary shit. But how did the brother get into the room? And how come security did not see fuck all. It always pays to remember we are fucking hookers. And hookers are the same world wide. Only trust them when they carry a death certificate and live in the fucking morgue guys.

We have lots of Yardies here in England. Big, dangerous, mad, bad mother fuckers. I like Bob Marley, Rastas etc but those other guys. A few weeks ago, I was up Brixton way, near the station and I hit on some of the sistahs. Ugly as fuck and big Yardie dudes hanging around. Lots of Rastah pussy there but htey all want money for a rock
This kill the sex tourist shit happens in lots of places. The South of Spain is a mess with all the junkies living there (they blame it on the North Africans but it is the white trash junkies carry the blades). Then, places like Rio and Pattaya where dumbshits think they died and went to heaven (with 77 hardened hookers who look like virgins

Guys: when you play away from home, play defensively. That's what we'll be doing tonight at Ewood Park.

[QUOTE=Billy Bob]There but for the grace of the Lord go all of us! I just hope my extensive, carefree reports on the joys (and relative safety) of Mo-Bay were not the sole inducement for this guy's travel decision.

My little honey (fortunately now in the USA) assures me Jamaica is "not a safe place". "You have to be very careful who you hook up with, especially the hustlers".

So if you want to play in Jamaica (and I still think it's a great place) go back to Ford's recommendation and stay at the Wexford. I think they are very security conscious and those two bellmen really watch out for your ass.

As for me, I still deciding between Curacao and Cartagena for my next adventure.

Great heads up Pogo. So how was your trip?[/QUOTE]

Jamaica can be a very safe place IF you stick to normal tourist activities. Anything else and you better be careful.

I love Jamaica. I go there a lot and hope to have a house there soon. But I have never mongered there and most likely will not. I have had lots of fun there but mostly with tourists. I go to Hedo a bit and have fun there as well.
I have also dated local Jamaican girls but I prefer the more middle class employed types.

Most of the action in Mobay is SWs. I do not do SW's at all...anywhere. The Mobay SW's are VERY aggressive. I would probably only be interested in them if I was into Dominatrix stuff....they are naturals at that.

Sometime I might try some of the MPs in Jamaica if I can hook up with a good wingman. But other than that I'll stick to the legal houses on the Dutch islands, or someplace like BlackBeards in the DR for my hobby activities.

pogo

Many of our fellow mongerers cannot get enough of streetwalkers. I made my opinion of them quite clear in this very thread. I agree with you that the Mo-Bay Hos are particularly aggressive and IMHO downright ugly. I wouldn't engage a hooker if it would bring about peace in the Middle East.

So, putting hookers aside, I suggested four other Jamaican sources of what we all are looking for. I believe that if one uses normal caution and good judgement they are all safe.

While I think you need a good "wingman" for the clubs, (I suggest Ford) the MP's, especially the larger ones are safe and well run. They obviously have a good thing going and want to protect the franchise. You get to know the girl and you'll find she's available during the daytime.

Your best source, however, is still any Jamaican woman you happen to meet. In addition to Pogo's suggestion of middle class working women I would add girls from the countryside.

Assuming then, that engaging a hooker is unsafe anywhere and anytime, one can still enjoy all the bounties of Jamaica without undue fear of anything more than a sunburn.

Just returned from MoBay and here's my experience.

Hotel - stayed at the Gloustershire. Right across the way from doctor's cave beach which is a nice beach but $5US to get inside? ! ? Eh - went one day but no different than just walking 5 minutes in either direction to get a free dip in the ocean. Hotel charged me $30US to bring somebody back at night.

Food - jerk chicken/curry goat/oxtail and lots of provisions! On the strip itself I found the Island Inn to be good food as well as the pork pit for your jerk! I ventured in town and found a restaurant that was approx. 1/3 the price of the tourist traps and just as good quality.

Party - margueritta ville had some fine looking jamaican woman but fake hair/nails don't do it for me. The brewery was a nice party if you like dancehall/soca. Fun crowd and safe.

Pussy - well folks I was totally dissapointed here. I was expecting to be able to meet some nice girls (and some dutty ones as well). Here's my summary

- SW's - I had fun chatting w/ them. But didn't partake. One was very very cute though

- regular girls - I dunno I didn't meet any regular girls. Maybe I don't fit the typical tourist profile (middle aged caucasian), maybe I'm not aggresive enough, maybe it's a bit of both. Been to Rio and Havana and found it easier to meet 'regular' girls there.

- massage parlour - since I was only there for three days I hitup a massage parlour and YUMMY. The girls are very sweet there. However I let my little head do all the talking and I paid for it. $15 taxi, $130 for all night, $100 for the girl. I got 4 SOG's, BBBJ, nice ride, and a little sweet talk but there was no connection.

My question folks is WHAT DID I DO WRONG? I am willing to give Jamaica another chance. Maybe Negril next time?

Comments?

GD

[QUOTE=gimmedub]Just returned from MoBay and here's my experience.

Hotel - stayed at the Gloustershire. Right across the way from doctor's cave beach which is a nice beach but $5US to get inside? ! ? Eh - went one day but no different than just walking 5 minutes in either direction to get a free dip in the ocean. Hotel charged me $30US to bring somebody back at night.

Food - jerk chicken/curry goat/oxtail and lots of provisions! On the strip itself I found the Island Inn to be good food as well as the pork pit for your jerk! I ventured in town and found a restaurant that was approx. 1/3 the price of the tourist traps and just as good quality.

Party - margueritta ville had some fine looking jamaican woman but fake hair/nails don't do it for me. The brewery was a nice party if you like dancehall/soca. Fun crowd and safe.

Pussy - well folks I was totally dissapointed here. I was expecting to be able to meet some nice girls (and some dutty ones as well). Here's my summary

- SW's - I had fun chatting w/ them. But didn't partake. One was very very cute though

- regular girls - I dunno I didn't meet any regular girls. Maybe I don't fit the typical tourist profile (middle aged caucasian), maybe I'm not aggresive enough, maybe it's a bit of both. Been to Rio and Havana and found it easier to meet 'regular' girls there.

- massage parlour - since I was only there for three days I hitup a massage parlour and YUMMY. The girls are very sweet there. However I let my little head do all the talking and I paid for it. $15 taxi, $130 for all night, $100 for the girl. I got 4 SOG's, BBBJ, nice ride, and a little sweet talk but there was no connection.

My question folks is WHAT DID I DO WRONG? I am willing to give Jamaica another chance. Maybe Negril next time?

Comments?

GD[/QUOTE]

Actually, you didn't do anything wrong. You found some good places to eat and party. The price you paid at the massage parlor for an all nite take out is pretty darn good for Jamaica. The Dolls House strip joint charges $300 for 3 hours for a take out.

My last trip there were actually some decent looking street walkers including one that was damn hot...but also damn obnoxious. Even saw a tranny, which is very rare in Jamaica. They are VERY homophobic and get violent towards openly gay Jamaicans.

As far as the local girls...it takes some game to get anywhere with them. It is not latin america where girls panties drop faster than the ball in Times Square at New Years. But it can be extremely worthwhile. They are generally pretty shy and you have to gain their trust and friendship first. Remember...you are from a foriegn land and almost anything you say will be interesting to them so just speak up, be friendly, smile....and then ask her out for a drink. She will guide you from there. It might take a couple dates to score...but when you do.....WOW!

Read and re-read Billy Bobs posts. He really grasps the scene very well. And Jamaica is a constant learning experience as it is totally different from anywhere else.

pogo

Look at it this way, Gimmedub. You had WAY BETTER luck than the last guy we read about on this thread who stayed at The Gloucestershire. He won’t be giving Jamaica another try, willing or not.

My contributions were never intended to be gospel. Although I do think you would have been better off following a couple of my suggestions.

For example, I would have stayed at The Wexford, as I recommended after reading Ford’s enthusiastic review. It’s great to have a couple of local dudes looking out for you in more ways than one. I never paid so much as a dime to get any lady friend into the hotel, although they do have a charge in effect. The boys took care of me.

And I think you missed my suggestion for spending as little as possible on your first visit to the MP, and then making a date with the lady for the next day when she can do and charge anything she wants. I also learned this lesson from one of the boys at the Wexford.

What surprises me most, however, is that you did not have success with “regular girls” by which I assume you mean every Jamaican woman not working in the sex trade. If you’re a middle aged Caucasian, I would be considered an old one, and at one point I was juggling four women all much less than half my age.

Pogo’s description of how this works is dead on. You cannot say: “Let’s fuck!” and expect the lady to reply, “You’re so smooth I think I will”. They love to be flirted with and even more, they want to be given the respect they feel they don’t get enough of from the local men folk, including their husbands.

You mentioned you liked the scene at the Brewery. There is a tall, good looking waitress at The Brewery who, I suspect, would have liked nothing more than to have a drink with you after work. Who knows what would have happened from there. It might not have happened that night, but maybe the next, or the next.

Other than that I don’t know what to tell you. Mo-Bay is certainly not for everyone. If you don’t enjoy the constant repartee and the hustlers, the craziness, and a certain amount of real danger you’re better off somewhere else.

But there is a gorgeous 26 year-old Jamaican woman now living here in the USA, half a day’s drive from my front door who made my trips to Mo-Bay quite productive. Everytime I see her I'm glad I listened to Ford.

I have been to jamaica a dozen times or more. Pussy is in short supply here best thing here is crime and white rum everything is a hassle and overpriced. I went to a resort on the west end of negril and ordered a cup of coffee I was shocked at the price ganja is good. Absolutely no transportation on Sunday so its a good day to have a rental car and take a girl out to the cane fields and bend her over from the rear. In the capital they have a wild strip club right near the big hotels to wild for me. Near Pegasis and the windham interactive sex here wild to stay if you have a guide. Since my last visit I go to the spanish islands where the chicks are all over the place growing up like weeds.

Hi gimmedub,

Just to review your post..........

You liked the food, found good quality and a place with good prices. You liked Magaritaville, enjoyed the atmosphere and found it to be safe. You chatted it up with the sw's and saw one girl that you thought was very cute....but didn't meet enough regular girls and you attributed it to the fact that your white and not aggressive enough. Is this the gist of it?

Let me ask you a question -on a scale of 1-10 what would you say your "fun level" was on this trip to MoBay? A 5? 6? 7? 8? ......and then tell me how much money you spent, total.

How much money would it take to have the same level of fun in Chicago? New York? Atlanta? Los Angeles? hmmmm?

How about in San Jose Costa Rica where the girls around the "Blue Marlin" and "Key Largo" bars all want "ciento" ($100 minimum) for ST.

I am fairly aggressive, but more so in S. and C. America where I can speak Spanish, but I'm also 41 years old (not young) and I'm white too.

Push the envelope a bit more next time, would be my advice! :)

cheers, and thanks for posting!

Two new reports since last I tuned in. What a difference!

Ford, articulate, analytical and as helpful as ever. The wingman you'd most like to have by your side

Then we have Donmobay. First , why on earth choose a name reflective of a place you've been twelve times and don't like?

Secondly, the main purpose of Jackson's Forum is to provide helpful information to fellow hobbyists.

Third, the total amount I have paid for sex in Jamaica is $75.00. That's TOTAL, over three trips. And yet somehow I have managed to have sex with at least ten very fine looking women, and induce one of them to move to the US so I could see her more often.

A full breakfast at the restaurant next to the Wexford is about $3.00 US.
Jamaican coffee is about 50 cents unless, of course, you're staying at a fancy resort in Negril.

I don't think Donmobay and the rest of us are talking about the same place.

[QUOTE=Donmobay]I have been to jamaica a dozen times or more. Pussy is in short supply here best thing here is crime and white rum everything is a hassle and overpriced. I went to a resort on the west end of negril and ordered a cup of coffee I was shocked at the price ganja is good. Absolutely no transportation on Sunday so its a good day to have a rental car and take a girl out to the cane fields and bend her over from the rear. In the capital they have a wild strip club right near the big hotels to wild for me. Near Pegasis and the windham interactive sex here wild to stay if you have a guide. Since my last visit I go to the spanish islands where the chicks are all over the place growing up like weeds.[/QUOTE]

I wonder which Spanish Islands? Thanks.

Can somone give more info on it. I am thinking of going in 3 weeks. Alone.

[QUOTE=Husky Babalin]2001,

I do not recommend Kingston unless you are very familliar. Personally I love Kgn., but I live here. MoBay is much better. Also you should consider Negril for long term rental. PM me and we can discuss. Kingston is only for those that know their way around. If its your first journey you should play between MoBay and Negril.

Enjoy![/QUOTE]

It will not allow me to PM you for some reason. Says you are not accepting them. Any ideas, email?

Had a long layover in Montego Bay the other day and decided to kill some time getting a nice massage. I was a little nervous since I couldn't check my bags anywhere, and was carrying loads of cash for Cuba, but I went anyway-- and was really glad I did! Asked a cab driver about the rejuvenating center I had read about on this forum, on Top Road. Turns out the place was probably a ten minute walk from the airport though I ended up paying $10 for the cab. Oh well...

The place is a house in a pretty nice, safe area of Montego Bay. Got the usual massage parlor routine of girls coming out to introduce themselves one at a time and most of them were really nice looking with three or four eights and nines. It was hard to pick one!!

Ended up picking a thin beauty with large natural breasts. Price was $50 (US currency) for an hour massage with HJ. For another $100 I got really nice sex with DATY, BBBJ, etc. Really great time.

This was a lot more than I like to pay, but again I had only a few hours in M Bay. But even then, I saw lots of sexy, sweet women walking around. The place definitely merits further research for this monger.

SL

I Jags:

Sorry to be rude but if you go back three or four pages both Ford and yours truly provide extensive information on the Wexfod.

Great report Salsero Loco. If you had a little more time, that same girl would have spent the day with you for $75.00. She got next to nothing of your contribution to the Rejuvenation Center.

[QUOTE=Salsero Loco]Had a long layover in Montego Bay the other day and decided to kill some time getting a nice massage. I was a little nervous since I couldn't check my bags anywhere, and was carrying loads of cash for Cuba, but I went anyway-- and was really glad I did! Asked a cab driver about the rejuvenating center I had read about on this forum, on Top Road. Turns out the place was probably a ten minute walk from the airport though I ended up paying $10 for the cab. Oh well...

The place is a house in a pretty nice, safe area of Montego Bay. Got the usual massage parlor routine of girls coming out to introduce themselves one at a time and most of them were really nice looking with three or four eights and nines. It was hard to pick one!!

Ended up picking a thin beauty with large natural breasts. Price was $50 (US currency) for an hour massage with HJ. For another $100 I got really nice sex with DATY, BBBJ, etc. Really great time.

This was a lot more than I like to pay, but again I had only a few hours in M Bay. But even then, I saw lots of sexy, sweet women walking around. The place definitely merits further research for this monger.

SL[/QUOTE]




You paid approx 150 dollars for sex in jamaica???

YOu could have gotten a jamaican woman here in the states for less then that.

A few buddies and I are looking to hire a "party guide"; we are staying at a Villa in MoBay and want to find someone who could arrange EVERYTHING; someone who can score us the best home grown ganja available for when we arrive, and then arrange for a wild vacation. Transportation, places where we can meet the hottest "available" women, and maybe even arrange a party for us. We will reward very well. Any suggestions?

Dave, my friend. You need only RTFF. Click back to Page 6, read entry #72.
You may want to click back another page or so and read the entry from Ford regarding the Wexford. Then work forward.

IMHO you do not need a single honcho to arrange the whole thing. In fact, I would avoid that. The only big winner in that deal will be your tour guide. See the people referenced in some of my offerings and select who you need when you need them. Your "tour guide" find a pretty girl, give her $20.00, and charge you $75.00. Whereas, if you offered her $50.00 a pop she'd hang around you like a flea on mangey dog.

Finding ganga in Jamaica is like finding beer in the United States. Chances are you'll be offered some at the airport.

After reading some of the entries mentioned I'd be glad to answer any specific questions in a PM.

Whatever you decide. Be careful and have fun.

I guess all I have left to do now is plan that party back at the villa, although I have no idea how to even start that! We want to hire a Reggae band, a couple of drivers to caravan "guests" back and forth, and make sure to get enough great ganja (we would give a very nice tip if we could get someone to "deliver" us an ounce).

This party should be great but now we need help on arranging all the details...recommendations very much appreciated!

He is right. To party in Mobay...you just need to be there. Ask around, many people there will direct you to where you want to be. As for smokes, 1 in 5 people that approach you will offer. Just use common sense, be carefull, and don't have the attitude of throwing uncle Ben's around, it will only bring trouble... Everyone speaks english... so getting aorund will be easy. Have fun.

Dave, I tried to PM you but either you are not taking or Jackson is not sending. So I'll make public what I can.

About 10% of the male population of Jamaica is devoted to "arranging things" for people like you and me. You just need to be very careful who you pick. Most are out to get all they can from the deal and give you (and the band and the girls) as little as possible.

I would trust either of the two bellmen at the Wexford, and maybe Dean the taxi guy to steer you in the right direction. In my PM I tried to send you numbers for those folks.

The girl whose picture I posted is also a possible starting place. She knows many girls. Make the deal with the girls instead of using the massage parlor. Eliminate the middleman.

When it comes to weed, the typical Jamaican hustler will try to sell you crap. Tell whoever you choose that you know the game, and will not accept anything but the best. Buy a little from someone before you buy a lot. Even then, be careful! Sample from the large wad before you buy all of it. Remember also, that while its everywhere, it's also illegal. The seller can get put in jail, and that's no place to be in Jamaica.

Even the guys and girl I have mentioned are only moderately trustworthy. You, being of the non Jamaican persuasion, and probably white, are the "mark". It is degrees of reliability we are talking about here.

Always, always, always bargain down. Remember the average Jamaican makes $75.00 a week. No matter how much they charge you, the massage parlors pay the girls $5.00 to go in the room with you. Anything more they have to beg for.

You should also know that Jamaican women HATE Jamaican men. There are three primary reasons for this. The men beat them up. The men will not eat pussy. The men have smoked so much weed that they often don't "get it up".

This makes it very possible that you and your friends might find some ladies at a place like The Brewery or Jimmy Buffet's who would just love to come to your party gratis - just for the fun of it. Wouldn't that be nice?

It is also why the little Jamaican princess I met down there is now in New Jersey. I can get to see her every three weeks or so. I don't beat her up. I love eating her. And I always "get it up".

Any questions? I'm here.

Be careful and have fun!

passed through montego bay again, again on a long flight layover, and stopped by the massage place on top road again (see my report a few messages down for the first visit). this time i got a really greedy chick who started out asking $200 for sex. no way, honey. talked her way down from that, but then she wanted more money for bbbj, and then when i started banging her she turned out to be on her period and blood was everywhere (she acted all surprised but was a terrible liar).

despite this, i really want to try to spend exploring montego bay, and jamaica and general, but am wondering how hard it is to live more cheaply. for example, the wexford hotel everyone talks about costs around $100 per night or more. are there any cheaper places, perhaps frequented by locals? the taxis i ended up using were also [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125][CodeWord125][/url] me, $10 for a quick 5 minute ride to the airport, for example.

like so many places i have been to before, both abroad and in the us, jamaica is set up to vacuum out the wallet of the uninitiated and inexperienced. i am wondering how cheaply some of you with more jamaica experience are able to live. it is cheap and easy to get to jamaica, but with the cost of living there seemingly so high, i'd be better off investing more in airfare to someplace like colombia, where i can live for next to nothing and the girls are off the chart.

sl

Listen. The best spot to hit is Negril. Its cheaper to find a place $40-$50 per night , has a lot more options as far as female selection and every single night there is a party or beach party. Take a airport shuttle bus ( dont use the cabs) from the airport. Its a 1 hour 15 minute ride but the shuttle busses only cost you $30.00 ROUND trip

If you go to a strip club go on Wed night( ladies night) or friday night( freaky night) ..although you can take any strip girl home, I don't really recommend it because they are usually more expesnsive. Just vibe with the local girls there who are watching the strip show or dancers . Buy them a beer and be nice and you can have any girl in the club.

That really si the secret to getting just a local girl. They are not used to people just coming up and buying them something, so when you do and just conversate with them for a few minutes and be very nice, you can get any girl without paying more then dinner or breakfast and cab fare the in the morning.

Candyman

[QUOTE=Salsero Loco]
Like so many places I have been to before, both abroad and in the US, Jamaica is set up to vacuum out the wallet of the uninitiated and inexperienced. I am wondering how cheaply some of you with more Jamaica experience are able to live. It is cheap and easy to get to Jamaica, but with the cost of living there seemingly so high, I'd be better off investing more in airfare to someplace like Colombia, where I can live for next to nothing and the girls are off the chart.

SL[/QUOTE]

Having read Ford's great report, I went to Mo-Bay about a year and a half ago. If you follow this thread back you'll see that he and I have been promoting it enthusiastically. That said, it's not for everyone. While I agree with Candygrams that it is calmer and perhaps less expensive in Negril, you are still in Jamaica. It's cheaper yet in Mandeville and you will accomplish the same thing. The thrust of Candyman's first submission (Welcome aboard) is "right on". You can easily get it for FREE.

Jamaica's national industry is "vacuuming out the wallet of the uninitiated and inexperienced." One either learns how to beat the system and win, or gets taken and loses. And it helps if one enjoys the contest.

Now, you've had not one, but two bad experiences in Mo-Bay. You got fleeced both times. If you had checked the forum you would have known how to avoid the Rejuvenation Center the second time around. There is also a good, $40.00 hotel right next the Rejuvenation Center.

So --- Salsero, I'd try Columbia or consider Curacao. The girls are indeed "off the chart", but there are nowhere near as many non-pros who just want to hang out with you and make love for free as in Mo-Bay or Jamaica.

I'm off for a party of all parties in two weeks. Still looking for some of Jamaica's hottest to join for the fun. Anyone have names AND photos (a must, as I have been badly surprised before) of women whom we can hire to come to our house? I would appreciate any suggestions.

Thanks to all !

Dave

Anyone in Jamaica this week? I am on my way now to Ochi and then Mobay.

pogo

Guys,

Do any of you know about Toby's Resort in Montego Bay? I'm told that it is a property of Hotel Wexford. It's supposed to be in the same area as the Wexford, but the rates are much cheaper. If you can provide any info on this spot including bringing women to your room I'd be very appreciative.

I would like to have a drink with any fellow mongers in Mobay next week when I pass through there. PM me...I have a couple girls lined up thru dating site, but it would be fun to see more talent with a wingman..MrC

Jamaica is not the best place for the single white man, to have fun, girls and a lot of sex. 2 weeks jamaica in mobay and negril was 1 week to much.
Ok i had 3 girls 2 for free and 1 for cheap 25 euro, but what you pay and what you get is not the same and not worth it.
Especially the rooms 25 euro for a shit room in mobay downtoon, churchstreet linkage, and 50-55 dollar and more 80 dollar for a room crazy,
in thailand you get a good room for 20 euro and not more.

Party and entertainment is to small everywhere!

The prices to high everywhere!
My girl in negril said self jamaica sometimes good sometimes sucks.

Dom.Rep. was really better see my report there.

Jamaica is only the place for the white girl to find the black charming prince.

Thanks

Sky Dumont

With all due respect, I disagree with most of Sky's observations, at least as they relate to white guys mongering in Negril. I recommend the "off-season" before Dec 1 and after April 15 because room prices drop considerably, but there is still plenty to do and an abundance of women, P4P and otherwise. I had success with local neighborhood girls looking for some fun (up in the West End away from the tourist beach resorts), as well as with hardcore pros imported from Kingston to dance at XXX, Galaxy, and the like. The beaches are also full of semi-pro opportunities during the frequent concerts. Taxi drivers will sometime drive young local gals around the 'hood, helping them to make new "friends". There are also some women you will bump into who call themselves "country girls" from the nearby villages in the hills, and they are perhaps a little rougher around the edges -- but I rather like their "aim-to-please" attitudes and lower monetary expectations. I never located any true brothels or massage parlors in Negril that offered extras, but flirting with cashiers, clerks, barmaids, etc. can really pay off with patience.

It makes no sense to me to compare prices in Thailand or anywhere else to another location like Jamaica. Different economies, different expectations. Negril is cheap by USA standards, expensive by African ones. Know the economy BEFORE you visit to avoid disappointments.

Negril is cheap by USA standards!!!!!!!!!

[QUOTE=Vahaza Be]With all due respect, I disagree with most of Sky's

observations, at least as they relate to white guys mongering in Negril. I recommend the "off-season" before Dec 1 and after April 15 because room prices drop considerably, but there is still plenty to do and an abundance of women, P4P and otherwise. I had success with local neighborhood girls looking for some fun (up in the West End away from the tourist beach resorts), as well as with hardcore pros imported from Kingston to dance at XXX, Galaxy, and the like. The beaches are also full of semi-pro opportunities during the frequent concerts. Taxi drivers will sometime drive young local gals around the 'hood, helping them to make new "friends". There are also some women you will bump into who call themselves "country girls" from the nearby villages in the hills, and they are perhaps a little rougher around the edges -- but I rather like their "aim-to-please" attitudes and lower monetary expectations. I never located any true brothels or massage parlors in Negril that offered extras, but flirting with cashiers, clerks, barmaids, etc. can really pay off with patience.

It makes no sense to me to compare prices in Thailand or anywhere else to another location like Jamaica. Different economies, different expectations. Negril is cheap by USA standards, expensive by African ones. Know the economy BEFORE you visit to avoid disappointments.[/QUOTE]

Sky:

It's clear you won't be visiting Jamaica again. You find it pricey. I find free very reasonable. I have never been to Thailand so have no basis to disagree on that point.

But there's one thing you are dead wrong about. Jamaica is no place for a white girl to find the "black charming prince". Obviously you didn't talk to many Jamaican women.

The "charming princes" have at least three problems with respect to the
opposite sex.

1. Too much ganga makes for limpy dickie.

2. The "charming princes" are, let's say, one dimensional in terms of the variety of pleasures offered.

3. They beat the girls up.

So if any of our bretheran are wondering why so many Jamaican women are attracted to white guys of almost any age, and why it's easy to get it free in Mo-Bay, Negril, or anywhere else; simply ask the girl what she thinks of Jamaican men.

When you get the answer you won't be sending down your sister.

I had two girls for free, in mobay and negril and a cheap one for 25 euro, but the rooms the food, taxi, entertainment and so on is the problem what you get and what you pay is not the same! For a motorcycle 20-25 dollar, you get a good one for 5 Euro in Phuket, and I think Black people and service, sometimes come not together, but want for shity service a tip. I had that problem in roots bamboo, the roomservice very lacy and wanted tip, i sad for good service tip but not for shit service.

thanks
sky dumont


[QUOTE=Billy Bob]Sky:

It's clear you won't be visiting Jamaica again. You find it pricey. I find free very reasonable. I have never been to Thailand so have no basis to disagree on that point.

But there's one thing you are dead wrong about. Jamaica is no place for a white girl to find the "black charming prince". Obviously you didn't talk to many Jamaican women.

The "charming princes" have at least three problems with respect to the
opposite sex.

1. Too much ganga makes for limpy dickie.

2. The "charming princes" are, let's say, one dimensional in terms of the variety of pleasures offered.

3. They beat the girls up.

So if any of our bretheran are wondering why so many Jamaican women are attracted to white guys of almost any age, and why it's easy to get it free in Mo-Bay, Negril, or anywhere else; simply ask the girl what she thinks of Jamaican men.

When you get the answer you won't be sending down your sister.[/QUOTE]

Yes, the white ladies come here for black cock and the white guys come looking for black pussy. This equation sounds very much like we have something to offer.

Imagine the young university whiteys leave their mommy's house dressed up nice for a 'vacation' under the tropical sun and ends up taking some over-sized black dick from beach bums who otherwise sell bottles at 50 cents a piece.

You're right, you see those beauties with some huge, very dark guys with teeth missing and severely blemished skin. Can't wait to have that tight white pussy.

Alan

(Jamaican dweller)

[QUOTE=Billy Bob]Sky:

It's clear you won't be visiting Jamaica again. You find it pricey. I find free very reasonable. I have never been to Thailand so have no basis to disagree on that point.

But there's one thing you are dead wrong about. Jamaica is no place for a white girl to find the "black charming prince". Obviously you didn't talk to many Jamaican women.

The "charming princes" have at least three problems with respect to the
opposite sex.

1. Too much ganga makes for limpy dickie.

2. The "charming princes" are, let's say, one dimensional in terms of the variety of pleasures offered.

3. They beat the girls up.

So if any of our bretheran are wondering why so many Jamaican women are attracted to white guys of almost any age, and why it's easy to get it free in Mo-Bay, Negril, or anywhere else; simply ask the girl what she thinks of Jamaican men.

When you get the answer you won't be sending down your sister.[/QUOTE]Look nobody in a tourist trap, especially a sex tourist trap is going to be on the up and up. You are dealing with the dregs of society, so you will be exposed to their problems. Just like if you deal with street hookers in the US, you'll see that they have problems with drugs, assault, robbery and all the rest. Let's not fool ourselves here. There are no "princes" interested in some sloppy US white chick looking for cock on vacation.

The upper class Jamaican dude wouldn't touch her anymore than you would want your son or daughter to deal with a low life from some filthy Euro destination who comes to the US. Likewise, when you go to JA, you're going to deal with low level women. I mean, if you can bed a chick, any chick, in under a week while you're on vacay, she's not a high class woman. And by the way, nothing you're doing is high class, it's seeking pussy for loot. So why you're even speaking in these terms as if you're on some high moral ground, is beyond me. You may not beat the chicks up.. but you're a monger and we all know that is what it is. Enough. Let's just talk bout our experiences with women and leave our ignorant, self aggrandizing posts for our vivid imaginations, shall we?

ok ---after all the race baiting has settled down let me pls report.
After visiting, seems this monger spot takes more work than others. If your limited to Western Hemis, then DR might b better. I don't know about the all inclusives,but I suspect bringing anybody off the street would be frowned upon. If you have no lobby to do the walk of shame, that would help.

I stayed at a hotel on the hip strip and a driver took me around, if not for him, MoBay would have been harder. PM me for names, I think that's better.
Being solo, I found the hip strip limited n boring. It's not that long a "strip". Just a few bars,restaurants,shops. Day or night I saw very few WG;skanks not worth taking to the room. If you like tours, that means leaving Mobay.

The roads are crap so b ready for ruff ride. I thought my vital organs were being ripped apart. Most tours are couple hrs drive. Tours are for families anyway. We want pussy.

To make Mobay monger efficient, best bets during the day is go down the "strip" and talk it up to whomever interest you. I got lucky with a girl that worked in a restaurant, only cuz no one else was around when we had time to talk & exchange info. Out of the many women I saw she was the only one I saw and liked. Tons pussy walkin around downtown Mobay though. Pretend your shopping and do the same there. Your bound to get someone.

RACE: Don't worry about being blk ,white or whatever ur race is..What I suggest to ANY man is to really not act like a *****. Jam men are very boisterous. Act like u own the place, but be respectful and get respected. When I open my mouth, it's confirmed am not from there..SO! Some guys sometime forget that being foriegn is a benefit. On that mouth note, Jamaican dialect is hard to understand and left me frustrated often.

At night bar to go to is The Brewery -next door to Wexford hotel.. Club Xtatic (strip club) next to Wexford is good but expensive. You will work on talking girl down from $150 for shot of ass. I never went there. Massage parlor I went to also was $50 to get massage and HJ only. Anything more is $US150 down depend on bargain skills. Fri. night the best bar -Pier One.
All the girls know and go. Should have no problems scoring. Just make sure ANY girl has no man with her.

Driver took me to Negril, abt an hr drive from Mobay. Negril is better than Mobay cos all is concentrated and its more understood we're adults and what we're here for. OMG, some white woman with rasta man..SO! At the concert on the beach you can see the deals being worked all around you. Thur. night is ladies night at the Jungle startin at 11:30. Two floors of *****s, sweet pussy. Bring your best game and talk em down. I don't like fake hair,so eliminates a lot of girls I see. If you have same issues come early to get more selection.

One treat I didnt expect was my driver took me to Kingston. Yeah mon! Better to stay there more than 1 day cos the drive sux. We did in 1 nite -OUCH! We stopped by a massage parlor, but was a lil too ghetto. My dick won't rise to this occasion! Even the Jamaican guys complained about their attitudes. Strip club we stopped at cost 3 to get in( BTW $3 spoken=$300 Jamaican).

Place was kinda hardcore and I only mean it had typical big city charm. Prices were great. Two girls for $20 for 30min and they expect a tip. We did'nt tatste the honey, but they're were some hotties. Don't expect GFE. More of a slam some Vitamin V and be as nasty as you want kinda place.

Best part of the trip was a sex show we stumble on. About 6 or 7 hotties running around a private apartment with a bed in the living room. The girls said anybody with the balls to perform in front of everyone could have free pussy. All you want. More shy types like me can take girls to back room. Two girls for 15,30,60 min. I only took one girl for hr/ $US60 cuz I did't really understand it was for two,but it was very good. She was very sweet n receptive and I manage to have stayin power for almost the whole hr.

The girls did all the entertainin on the mattress with dildos and such. Only 1 guy took up the offer and he did not really perform. The girl runnin this said it's seven days a week. And I think the driver might be avail for regular trips if given enuff gas money. If you insist on Jamaica AND saving money, go straight to Kingston.

I like to keep my reports to the point and with information. Not superfulous babble, but this color thing is important to me. OK, I'm Black and blended. Hey I would love to go to Moscow, but I might get attacked by skinheads. But if I want to go I'm more than there. With big balls and latex! Anybody that starts throwin sterotypes to justify why they're not having fun means
you may have no social skills. Guys, go to Jam or any 2nd or 3rd world country with respectful attitude of people and culture and you will have time of ur life.

Well said Naked Gunz. If you behave like a gorilla, you get gorilla behavior in return. Many Jamaicans might lack some of the social skills but are really nice people. Like everywhere else in the world, the girls are there to take your money away from you. If you sound or look unfamiliar with the territory you end up paying more. You pay even more if you behave as if you've just arrived and own the place. It's the same rule in most other places. Nothing to do with color or where you are from. It's the rule.

Naked Gunz - nice report, nice photos....I'm glad you had a good time. :)

For overall fun (you're right) the DR is #1 in the caribbean, but Jamaica is very underrated.

A few of the girls you spent time with have absolutely smoking bodies-very nice!

I think you're being very charitable however when you say that the All-ins would "frown" upon bringing in p4p girls. All-ins aren't going to permit you to bring in girls. You'd be taking a big chance.....a good choice of a hotel is very important and is your first step to having fun in MoBay.

I picked The Wexford - there are others too, but avoid the "all-ins"

Nice report Naked gunz, thanks!

Excellent report NG! And a refreshing antidote to the racist nonsense that snuck into the discussion. If you can't get laid in Negril, mon, then the problem ain't the ladies. Kingston's a little scary for me; worth an overnighter if you you fly in to the Kingston airport, but otherwise I prefer the West (Negril) and the relatively undeveloped SW (Treasure Beach area).

[QUOTE=Ford]Naked Gunz - nice report, nice photos....I'm glad you had a good time. :)
For overall fun (you're right) the DR is #1 in the caribbean, but Jamaica is very underrated.
A few of the girls you spent time with have absolutely smoking bodies-very nice!
I think you're being very charitable however when you say that the All-ins would "frown" upon bringing in p4p girls. All-ins aren't going to permit you to bring in girls. You'd be taking a big chance.....a good choice of a hotel is very important and is your first step to having fun in MoBay.
I picked The Wexford - there are others too, but avoid the "all-ins"
Nice report Naked gunz, thanks![/QUOTE]

Thanks guys, only tryin to contribute. When I get stuck on the East Coast for a few weeks again, I will consider a weekend Negril trip.

But now my focus is the DR. Brushing up on my Spanish and yes..RTFF!

[QUOTE=Naked Gunz]Thanks guys, only tryin to contribute. When I get stuck on the East Coast for a few weeks again, I will consider a weekend Negril trip.

But now my focus is the DR. Brushing up on my Spanish and yes..RTFF![/QUOTE]

Naked Gunz,

I am bi-lingual - Spanish/English so I tell you what..... I'll make a deal with you. (smile) I'll help you with your Spanish if you "throw" me some "guest-friendly" hotels in Negril or some other hotel recomendations in Mobay! I liked "The Wexford", but what are your thoughts on the subject? :)

As I've said many times on this board a real good "monger" trip starts with real good accomodations!

cheers...........

Try Glouchester Hotel, Doctors Cave Hotel, both on Glouchester Av. As well you can check Toby Inn and up on the hill above MoBay there is El Greco (nice rooms and spacious) as well as Grandiflora in same area.

To monger in Jamaica, you need to be in Kingston. First, get a hold of the newspaper, there are a few of them and check out the massage parlors ads. Exchange rate is: J$65=US$1

A 45min massage will run you J$1400, 60 mins J$1700, if you want 'personal services' it will run you J$5-10, 000, depending on the girl and how horny you are. Those services are usually done on prem.

If you want to venture out go to a few of the strip clubs. There is one on dominica ave/rd called platinum, there are some decent looking strippers and they will play depending on your negotiating skills. The nationality range from Panama, dom rep, some south american and some russian, ukraine. It's best to get their cell #s to set up a date the next day, cus they are at work and you may have to pay the house to take her out.

There are other strip clubs in Kingston, a taxi driver will know them all. Never pay more than J$6000 approx US$90 unless she rocks your world. If you want russians/ukraine, prepare to pay US$300 & up.

Happy mongering.

I don't really monger in Jamaica, but still always keep my eyes open to see whats happening.

Dolls House strip joint down past the Brewery is now a sports bar. No great loss as it was VERY pricey for pretty Eastern European girls with really harsh attitudes. Xtatic is still going, but it is pretty seedy and caters to locals.

There was the usual variety of SWs, but I avoids them as they usually have very aggressive attitudes and are rarely that good looking.

This trip it seemed that all the street hustlers were pitching the massage parlor...choose from 35 hot girls. Of course it's all for Rejuvenation of Top Road.

I asked a local friend of mine why they were pushing it so hard. He told me that they have recently started to market to the tourists and give $500J for referrals. (about $8 US) Another $500J to the taximan (legal driver or not). Minimum session charge is about $30 US. I asked him about the services. Even though he is a taxi driver and will take anyone wherever they want, he is pretty conservative and not really into the hustle scene. He said, "Dem got young girls, dey do anyting. Dem not just rub you onna back, dem rub allll over."

I have a few flirtations going with some of the girls at my favorite restaurants (including a chinese girl!) that will probably lead to some fun in the near future. There is also a housekeeper at the hotel that is a strong possibility. Fortunately I go to Jamaica a lot so a slow play is fine with me.

On one of my strolls on the strip I got in a conversation with a woman from Mandeville that said she was in town for the weekend. Her name was Vivian. She was dressed like a typical rural woman, hair up in a sack, long floor length skirt, very proper blouse and vest. She said that she was going to Marguaritaville later. So we made loose plans to meet up there.

As I was heading up there a few hours later, I heard her call out to me from the top of the spiral staircase at the Montego Bay Club tower. (across from Dr Cave Beach) At first I did not recognize her....she was wearing a hot little black dress that barely cleared her ass....long, long legs. Damn! She was hiding that smokin' bod under that long skirt.

It turns out that she was working the street. I chatted with her for a while. She said she works 2 jobs back home. One in an office, another as a waitress. She comes to Mobay every now and then to pick up some extra cash.

She was the hottest and nicest SW I have ever seen in Mobay. I was very tempted to take her back to the room for the night but had two strong reasons not to. First is that I know everyone that works at my hotel too well. I do not need them knowing about any private activities.

And even though I know how to get her to my room undetected, I just don't play with SWs....that's reason 2. ( I stay at the hotel where the Aussie monger was killed last summer by a SW's boyfriend/pimp....just a part of why I avoid SWs)

Overall....the scene in Mobay is about how it always is. Anything you want is available at any time with no problem. I may try Rejuventaion on my next trip...if for no other reason but to take one for the team. (just doing my civic duty as a citizen of this board)

pogo

Very, very nice pogo! Thank you for doing your civic duty as a senior member of this board! :)

I am sooooooo sorry that the Doll House is closed! (lol) What a rip-off joint! Yes, the eastern European girls were very hot, but at $200-$250 USD for "out-call" they were a total rip-off. The play there was taking the few local girls that worked there. I'm happy its now a sports bar!

I certainly understand your apprehension dealing with sw's, but I still would of liked to hear a few details about what a session would have been like with Vivian, and a photo or two!

Maybe a session with Vivian will fit within the parameters of your "civic duty" next time! :D

Thanks,
FORD

Fellow mongerers :)

I thought that since there is so much talking of the relaxation and rejuvenation center on the Mo'Bay thread I'd add a few cents of my experiences there.

I've been to Jamaica twice, once in Mo'Bay and once in Negril, and on my way back from the second trip I got to the airport a few hours early and decided to check out the relaxation and rejuvenation center since so many taxi drivers had pitched it to me when I was in Mo'Bay, I had seen the website, and was just curious.

First point, the place is extremely pricey for Jamaica. You can see the menu on the website, that's what it costs to go in the room with the girl. Obviously go for the cheapest option on there, you do get a decent massage for it...

Second point, the place is for tourists, and the girls know what prices are like in western more wealthy countries and will try to charge you that. It was mysecond trip to Jamaica so I was used to being hustled constantly and always negotiating, but still feel that in the end it was all a bit expensive.

Thirdly, the girls there when I checked out the selection (they lead you into this one room where all the girls wait for you) looked pretty much like the girls at any go-go club. A few pretty ones, but nothing there that was out of the ordinary so to speak.

Fourthly, I had a really nice time with this one girl, have forgotten her name. A really nice massage, good conversation about Jamaica, a few laughs, two drinks, and a really nice BJ to relax me for my flight, so no regrets.

It set me back a little too much money, but left me really happy and relaxed for my flight home, and I slept like a little puppy. So in summary, go there if you only got a few hours in Jamaica, but you can get a girl that is just as pretty for the whole night for close to the same money and I think of myself as a pretty good negotiator.

Hope this one adds to the knowledge on the board.

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Good Report Fun and Sun! Let me add afew things!

Always go for the Senusous Massage as this usually the cheapest at all MPs and will include hand-release. About your BJ. Was that a CBJ? Because most of the girls here will only do CBJ now!

Really not just for tourist, although your are right in MoBay, hence Some Tourist!

As for the girls always a nice selection in house and usually a few spinners. If you went during day, some maybe still a sleep!

Well it seems like it was worth it! Soon Cum Back we hope!

[QUOTE=Ford]Naked Gunz,
I am bi-lingual - Spanish/English so I tell you what..... I'll make a deal with you. (smile) I'll help you with your Spanish if you "throw" me some "guest-friendly" hotels in Negril or some other hotel recomendations in Mobay! I liked "The Wexford", but what are your thoughts on the subject? :)
As I've said many times on this board a real good "monger" trip starts with real good accomodations!

cheers...........[/QUOTE]
Sorry for the late reply guys..Am on my way to the Gulf protectin u sorry civilians. DONT KNOW WHEN I"M SEEIN POONTANG AGAIN!

I stayed in Mobay..Don't know about Negril. The thing with the Wexford is the driver. Without him my trip would have sucked. Treat him very good.
He will do the same for you. Official driver rates are $30 dollars an hour, ( I kid you not).

I read that some guys previously had to tip the guards to bring in overnight guests. I actually just walked them right in with me??!!
Of course I just ignored who was watchin. They did not stop me.

Hotels now have this thing wear you have to secure a band on your wrist to let them know your a guest. I refused to do that and so did another guy at the desk with me. They said just carry it with you then. If they start to enforce this it could screw up your date, but they may realize nobody wants to wear a damn huge rubberband on they're vacation, (which aotomatically brands you as a tourist prime for ez pickings).

[QUOTE=Naked Gunz]
Hotels now have this thing wear you have to secure a band on your wrist to let them know your a guest. I refused to do that and so did another guy at the desk with me. They said just carry it with you then. If they start to enforce this it could screw up your date, but they may realize nobody wants to wear a damn huge rubberband on they're vacation, (which aotomatically brands you as a tourist prime for ez pickings).[/QUOTE]

That has been a thing with many of the bigger resorts for quite some time. The all inclusives can be strict about it. You won't get dinner or a beer without one. (Although Hedo doesn't do wrist bands)

Now, most of the hotels require them. I always insist that they fasten it at the last hole so I can easily slip it on and off as I enter or leave the property. I would NEVER hit the street wearing one.

Good luck in the Gulf....come back in one piece. War sucks. (been there and done that in the jungle)

pogo

[QUOTE=Ford]I certainly understand your apprehension dealing with sw's, but I still would of liked to hear a few details about what a session would have been like with Vivian, and a photo or two!

Maybe a session with Vivian will fit within the paremeters of your "civic duty" next time! :D

Thanks,
FORD[/QUOTE]

The image of those legs and that ass are permanently burned into my mind.

She was indeed a temptation and actually seemed like a pretty nice girl. Perhaps if I see her again I might succumb to that temptation. I sometimes stay at El Greco, but am not as well known there as I am at G-shire. That could also influence my decision as it would protect my privacy a bit more.

BTW at El Greco you can register a "guest" at the front desk at no charge. They are supposed to leave by 11 PM but no one will ever come looking for them. This offers a certain level of protection as the desk will check and record their ID.

pogo

I was at Toby's recently and got a hard time from the night guard about bringing in guest. Had to eventually tip him and he recorded the name on the bill. He really hassled us and made me quite turned off though overall I liked the property. I hope to find a way around this or a better hotel to stay at.

[QUOTE=Pogostick]That has been a thing with many of the bigger resorts for quite some time. The all inclusives can be strict about it. You won't get dinner or a beer without one. (Although Hedo doesn't do wrist bands) Now, most of the hotels require them. I always insist that they fasten it at the last hole so I can easily slip it on and off as I enter or leave the property. I would NEVER hit the street wearing one. [/quote]Its hard for to believe that the system of bands for guest is going change any time in the future. I am bit surprised that they let you get away with just carrying it. But as you said you made a fuss! For a Jamaican guest it would not be so easy. If you have Jamaican Honey visiting you on and all-inclusive you can bet that they will make her wear it. If she is walking around property without it there will be major hassle. One thing I would not do is sneek a JA Guest into an All-inclusive, it leaves them open to some serious hassle. Apart from intial problems, if something is missing from a room on the other end of the property that illegal guest will be questioned about it. Its not easy for a local. As for Toby Inn and paying off guard. If your going to cum in after front desk is closed, and if there is a charge for additional guest I recommend that you deal with Guard beforehand, also make double sure that this is the Guard that is on duty when you return. If not find out what hotel policy is and phone in name of guest. It is best just to make some friends with front desk of Guard. It is easy to make friends with Jamaicans. A little chocolate can go along way at the front desk. As for Guard offer a cigarette and leave the pack, etc. Just some thoughts!

[QUOTE=Husky Babalin]Good Report Fun and Sun! Let me add afew things!

Always go for the Senusous Massage as this usually the cheapest at all MPs and will include hand-release. About your BJ. Was that a CBJ? Because most of the girls here will only do CBJ now !

Really not just for tourist , although your are right in MoBay , hence Some Tourist !

As for the girls always a nice selection in house and usually a few spinners. If you went during day , some maybe still a sleep!

Well it seems like it was worth it ! Soon Cum Back we hope![/QUOTE]Thanks for complements on the report Husky. Wouldn't have rated the BJ so highly if it was a CBJ... :) I got on really well with the girl and we spent a lot of time chatting while she was giving me the massage, so she might have made an exception for me.

You're right it's not only for tourists, did see a few locals there actually when I was waiting to go to my room. Not sure if they paid the same as I did though, but then, not a big deal really.

As for selection, I was there at about 8 pm which is still early, and the one girl I picked was very pretty. Tall, skinny, 19 to 20 years old. It might be that the hot ones come in a bit later.

Already starting to plan my next Jamaica trip once the big tourist season comes to an end actually, can't wait to go back.

One thing I also wanted to add a bit to the Board about is Goldfingers, one of the go-go bars/strip clubs in Mo'Bay (not in the tourist area, but in the actual town).

I did go there and there are some very hot chicks that dance there, as well as do extras of course... If you are in Mo'Bay I definitely recommend a visit. The place seems a bit dangerous from first impressions, but when you are actually in there you can feel pretty much safe although it can feel a bit sketchy with music blaring and it being very dark and some pretty shady characters come in.

I had a beer with the owner outside the club once, and also talked to one of the girls that work there about whether it was safe there, and I think that pretty much the guy that owns the place is well connected and won't let anyone mess with his girls or his customers. When I was having a beer with him on the front porch outside some pretty thugish looking hodlums came by, but they treated him with quite a bit of respect. So I think the place is safe in terms of inside, but at night it's definitely not safe once you are outside so make sure that you have a driver waiting for you to take you back.

So in summary, definitely recommend a visit. Hot girls, some very sexy dancing, not too expensive beers, and reasonably safe.

(You can also get day time take out from there, the girls work until about six in the morning but all were awake when I came by at 2pm. If I remember they need to be back at work by about 8pm or so, but that's plenty of time for ample fun on your first/second day on your first trip to Jamaica before learning to work the bars for the freelancers, at least that's what I found.)

[QUOTE=Fun And Sun]Thanks for complements on the report Husky. Wouldn't have rated the BJ so highly if it was a CBJ. I got on really well with the girl and we spent a lot of time chatting while she was giving me the massage, so she might have made an exception for me.

You're right it's not only for tourists, did see a few locals there actually when I was waiting to go to my room. Not sure if they paid the same as I did though, but then, not a big deal really.

As for selection, I was there at about 8 pm which is still early, and the one girl I picked was very pretty. Tall, skinny, 19 to 20 years old. It might be that the hot ones come in a bit later.

Already starting to plan my next Jamaica trip once the big tourist season comes to an end actually, can't wait to go back.[/QUOTE]Big tourist season ends right after Easter this year.

Yes chatting up the ladies is the best thing to do. That is my exact style. But, as I am sure you know CBJ is becuming the order of the day down here. So a little finesse goes along way!

Always ask fo Jamaican Dollar Quote it always work in your favor. I believe the Jamaicans are paying same price, as there should be a Menu in JA dolars as well as US.

I believe at Stacys, the Sensuous is $2000 Ja = about 30US.

If they balk at this just tell them you work here and that is what you always pay. Should work, either way it should not exceed 40us.

F & S, Hope you return soon, if you ever need anything or just would like to have a drink you can PM me! I live in Negril and work MoBay!

has anyone been to those resort. any action there... could not find any info from previous reports on them.

[QUOTE=Bnlee2]has anyone been to those resort. Any action there. Could not find any info from previous reports on them.[/QUOTE]There is no action at Grand Lido, this is an upscale all-inclusive with primarily couples. GL Negril may have access to Hedonism where there could be a few JA Honeys about, but you can't count on that. Gran lido is not a GF friendly hotel.

Give more details about your trip! I will be happy to respond with recommendations.

Husky

Does anyone know where the website is for the Rejuvenation Center?

The New and Improved Rejuvenation Ctr. Is now Open! WEB-Site Not working as of yet!

New address 34 Hobbs Av. This is east of the Airport (No longer on TOP Hill) As you leave Airport you head east about 1/2 mile to Flankers turn-off. As soon as you turn off you get on servise road that continues east a short way till you reach Alex Car Rental, here you make left.

Come straight to 2nd house on left.

They have fixed this place up very nice, orderly and clean. Ph# is 979-6657 ask for Stacy (receptionist is Patrice, Tina and Shelly) let them know that John (The Handsome White Guy) sent you. I guarantee you will get good service. I stopped today, there were 9 Lovelies, all under 24. On weekends they usually have up to 15.

Basic Sensuous Massage is $50US

Heavens touch is 100US w/two attendents.

This place is very comfortable and relax have a drink and get to know all the ladies. VISITORS should get a good taxi driver to take you here. I do not recommend that you try to go here at nite in rental car unless you know Jamaica and your way around. If you call them they may send a taxi for you, I recommend that you ask Taxi fee before you hop in.

Have Fun! I DO!

Husky

[QUOTE=Sickguy]Does anyone know where the website is for the Rejuvenation Center? [/QUOTE]

I got back from MoBay a week ago, missed the summerfest by one week! What a week makes. The island was slow and it showed.

The last time I was in MoBay was april and it was nice. This time, it was so slow, I had shopkeepers bugging me to buy and guys running from one side of the street to tell me something (I totally ignored everybody).

I didn't read the forum in april, because I wanted to try the local flair. Not hard to meet anyone, especially if you run the line you are looking for a Jamaican wife.

This last trip, I read Husky Babalin's post on the MP. I wanted to check out their way of doing the MP. He was right, 9 beauties came out for my likings.
I did mention to "Shelly" that I knew "John" but she acted like she didn't know him but whatever, I was ready for business.

I got the tour driver of my tour to the Appleton Estates to take me. The house has no signs, so the driving directions of Mr. Babalin would have been your only way if you drove.

I went early saturday (5pm) before the rush as I was told. All the girls were called to me. The first one was "apple". She had a nice face and great body-but, she wasn't very enthused. My experience began to kick in.

I decided to choose not the most pretty, but the best personality. It ended up being "lisa". She had a smile from the time she came through the back door and she held my hand for a while when she greeted me.

They handed me a "menu" that was in american dollars. I am sure there must be a Jamaican menu with better prices for the local. Thats okay, the lowest service was a massage and a yank for .5, not bad. I went with that.

Lisa did an okay massage but she did a very good job with the HJ. It was so good, I didn't even want to go back the next day.

Lisa mentioned that they will go to your hotel. I was at the El Greco and she said they were across the street from there not too long ago-Damn! The thing to do is go there the first time, get to know the faces, then if you want a second go at it in your hotel, you will know what she looks like already.

I will go back one more time and then its off to other adventures. This time I will make camp in Negril though. I met a woman who was from Cuba and she was telling me to go to Cuba. She said they don't stamp your passport.

Well, I went to the Cuban forum and I didn't like what I read, so I will pass.
I learned alot form this trip, actually. At Rejuve, you can get two girls for
a massage for only $. But, these women are a little reserved. Let's just put it this way, two women in the Philippines, now you are talking.

Lisa told me that most of them are from Kingston. Why? Maybe because the country is so religous. A local girl would have shame working there. They like sex in JA, believe me, they just don't show it openly. I looked in the yellow pages and could not even find a heading that said "massage".

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So I'm doing a two week trip to Jamaica either first week or mid-may. I haven't seen many reports recently but that doesn't matter. I plan to spend a week in Montego Bay and a week in Negril and travel around the surrounding areas.

I'm planning to go there for the freebies after reading this entire thread (Kudos Ford and Billy Bob) I need a little info though. I'm looking for a place to live and live cheap in Montego Bay and Negril. Can't afford the Wexford with their rates or even the Gloucester that averages $80/night. I'm looking around the $30-$50 price range hopefully guest friendly.

I'm also wondering how hard it might be for me to get some freebies. I'm a 23 year old, fairly good looking, indian guy but live in N. America. Are Jamaican women into that? Any help would be much appreciated.

Axeman

There is massage parlour in Mobay but you can get a lot more than just a massive. If all you want is a massage you can get a nude for $40US. Lot's of chicks to pick from, there's a bar in there if you want to have a drink.

Montego Bay Ocean View
19 Queens Drive
876.940.7417

I have visited there a few times and can say it's a pretty good spot. I'm an expat living in Mobay and don't know where else to go other than picking up the locals.

[QUOTE=Bnlee2]has anyone been to those resort. any action there... could not find any info from previous reports on them.[/QUOTE]

The all inclusives are NOT GF! Why do you think they have those big freakin walls up? It's to keep locals out and your dollars in!

When you arrive in Negril cheap accommodation is available on the cliffside instead of the beach side. I'd hire a taxi and negotiate a price for 1 hour and have him go to a bunch of guesthouses on the clifffside in your price range. You should be able to sample a few within that 1 hour and you can a room definitely under $50 u.s a night, even less around $30 u.s. per night. It's all negotiable and some even have a common stove where you could do some cooking. Try La Villa La Cage, can't the remember the other ones but the Rough Guides will have a list or the Lonely Planet.

Greetings All,

I have a shitload of questions and I hope I can get some sound advice from you guys. Let me start off with, while this may show as my 1st post, it is not. I haven't posted on the international board for a couple of years but I did have a dozen or so posts on the Mexican, Netherlands and the German boards (OMG the FKK's were amazing), I just can't remember my nick from then and my email/ip has change (twice) since then. I also, became a senior member on the USA boards (same nick as now)(check my references *LOL*). I've answered via PM twenty plus queries asked by other members. I can provide assistance for most of the Gulf Coast from Pensacola, FL to Nawlin's plus a bit on Memphis. Most importantly I HAVE RTFF. I have also, researched a bunch of other websites.

The reason I share all this worthless info is by no means to brag but rather to let ya'll (yes I'm in the south *LOL*) know I'm not a newbie asking for something without paying a bit of "dues" first. Also, I will most certainly report my "findings" after I recover from my journey, regardless of how much assistance I gather.

Many of my questions do not directly pertain to the normal topics of this board but I trust the answers/suggestions I receive will be top quality.

A brief overview of me and my situation (like any of this post is brief). I am 38, white, heavy set (not huge (230#, 6'2")), been compared to Nicolas Cage, to which I respond "No, we just have the same hairline". I am VERY recently divorced after 11 Years and seeking a nice, little "attitude re-set". I am on a very tight budget (less than a grand to spend while there). Originally, I was looking at another trip to Boystown when I came across round-trip tickets from Miami to Montego Bay, Jamaica for under $200 round-trip (nearly $100 of that is taxes+fees) Great Deal, huh? I think so. Miami is the same distance for me as Nuevo Laredo and I've never been to Jamaica. I will be arriving on a Thursday afternoon (3/5/09) leaving the following Monday afternoon. I am a fairly heavy smoker/toker (As stated earlier I've been to Amsterdam. Twice, definitely part of my budget), I do drink but, rarely in the daytime and not heavily (six pack gives me a healthy buzz).

Now that I've wasted soooo much of your time on to the actual reason of the post:

Hotel- I'm fairly well set on Toby's ($79 plus taxes), but, certainly, open to other suggestions around $100/night incl/taxes (Wexford is $96+taxes is it worth the difference). I'm not looking for anything fancy, just a place to crash that is with-in walking distance of most things and fairly safe (Motel 6 quality is fine for this trip). Does anyone know their policy of bringing guest pro and non-pro back to the room? I saw a post about someone being slightly hasseled by security. What about before 11pm before front desk is closed? Is the hotel "smoker friendly"; I'm gonna toke wherever I stay, just not sure if I need to take extra precautions. Anyone know of workers there (or anywhere) to "trust" for transactions.

Smoke. Any recommendations of who to talk to? For top quality smokables? I read some post about "Mr. Cool" under some stairs but can't find the post, unsure if it was on this board, unsure which stairs. Any comments on strains to ask about, I've read "lambs breathe or bread" is a good start. I've read on other forums that other forms of smokables are available, the gummy kind not anything "white"(not my d. O. C.) any thoughts?

Drinks. Most importantly will I be able to find a COLD Coke (preferably not Pepsi)? Europeans don't seem to believe in ice, barely in refrigeration. Should I bring my own soda and small cooler? Will I be able to buy a bag of ice? How much is a beer? I've read J. Buffets is like $4. 50 (ridiculous) what about most other places? Any other recommendations beside Red Stripe? (I like RS, just curious) Any rum drink suggestions that do not have pinapple, coconut or Kaluha / Tia Maria?

Money. I generally prefer to use local currency it's currently $1=$89j which I'll factor to $75j-$80j to account for fluxes and fees. Any reason to bring $j with me? (ex. In AMS you really want about 10Euros for the train from airport until reaching a local ATM, in Mexico just wait til you get there) Only reason I can think of would be for taxi to hotel, which I understand should be no problem with American $'s. Is it correct that there is a decent ATM on Hip Strip? Where? Is it the normal situation of it dispensing $j and my bank gives me pretty decent rate plus $3-$5 fee. I've read not to exchange at airport, hotel or bank but is an ATM ok?

Shopping. While I won't be doing much souvener shopping, I will need to get a few, where do you recommend? I don't forsee falling for scams nor being bothered too much by the "strong sales tactics" as I said I've been to Mexico (border towns and cruises) with no problems (except for being mugged by the Federales), I'm fairly street smart and understand it's generally a matter of staying aware of your surroundings and being respectful but taking any shit and not looking like a victim. How far is the city center shopping? Any particular shops to recommend, I enjoy the flea market/mercado atmosphere. Bargaining is not a problem, I know how to walk away when it suits me.

Food. Damn this is going to be a problem, I'm way too picky. First and foremost NO seafood. Goat is also a no. And not too many veggies (Vegetables are what food eats)(I am however definitely a Vagatarian) I like most spices, excluding curry, HOT is fine (as long as there's a beer nearby). I know there's a KFC, BK and pizza at Bobsled. As picky as I am I really prefer to eat places I can not eat at home. Basically what I'm looking for is a good recommendation for a bbq/jerk stand. What is average costs? 2 meals a day is more than ample for me, I don't tend to be terribly afflicted with muchies, but snack suggestions are most welcome. Also, any good (not expensive) Chinese restaurants (found a great one in AMS)

Clubs. Strip and otherwise. I've read the one at 51 market is interesting, do I need to take a taxi to it or is it near hip strip? What other strip clubs do you recommend? What are normal drink prices in the SC's? Are they similar to US clubs with lap dances, if so how much? I already understand most have negotiable FS available onsite and the bar fine situation for take-out but, pointers are always welcome. I'll probably have to check out M'ville but don't plan on spend much time (or $) there. Are there any clubs with music other than reggae (Metal or Techno, probably not but I would find it interesting to see how the locals responded to that genre) Where else do you suggest to see a good band, dance, drink, toke (any or ideally all)? I've read not to toke on the streets but what about in clubs? If the locals are doing it is it ok for me to spark one as well.

Beaches. I'll probably spend at least one if not 2 afternoons at the Cave. Can I bring a cooler? Probably not, but that's why I'm asking. How much are extras there (no, not that kind of "extras" *LOL*). I've read admission is $5 as are umbrellas and chairs, what about jet skis and similar items (are these negotiable? , again probably not) What about Aquasol? How far is it, is it any better than Cave? Any other beaches to suggest, I don't see Negril within my budget and the public beaches make me wary of even leaving my towel on the beach while swimming. How is the "scenery" on the beaches (the type with bikinis or a possible a lack of) Girls. Not too many questions on this topic as the forum has been extremely informative. But a few, Is the Rejuvination Center still the best bet for "special" massage? What are the rates above the massage menu that I should tip the girl for BJ or fs? If possible on all answers to give amounts in $j. I hope to find at least one (5) non-pro to, at least, "chase" to help occupy the time and provide a few notable memories. I generally, prefer lighter skinned, top heavy ladies, I know that Jamaica is not the ideal for this but it's all pink.

Well DAYUM, I've written a friggin book, with way too many, 's and ()'s but I'm anxious and don't know who else to turn to for these picky details. So, fellas please help me out preferably on the board so that others may benefit as well but PM's are fine especially for specific names. Any and all assistance is greatly appreciated. I would say I'll be happy to re-pay the favors but actually I'll help anyone who asks whether they were able to assist me or not. But I'll certainly buy anyone a beer who happens to be there.

Peace Mon (LOL)

Faust

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[QUOTE=Faust420]Greetings All,
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Hotel- I'm fairly well set on Toby's ($79 plus taxes), but, certainly, open to other suggestions around $100/night incl/taxes (Wexford is $96+taxes is it worth the difference). I'm not looking for anything fancy, just a place to crash that is with-in walking distance of most things and fairly safe (Motel 6 quality is fine for this trip). Does anyone know their policy of bringing guest pro and non-pro back to the room? I saw a post about someone being slightly hasseled by security. What about before 11pm before front desk is closed? Is the hotel "smoker friendly"; I'm gonna toke wherever I stay, just not sure if I need to take extra precautions. Anyone know of workers there (or anywhere) to "trust" for transactions.
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Toby's isn't bad but the Wexford is a much more convenient location with a very short walk to most of the places you mentioned. You may also want to consider Gloustershire or Dr's Cave Hotel. The Dr Cave Hotel is VERY popular for spring break with lot's of tourist girl possibilities. The only places that won't be girl friendly are the all inclusives.



Smoke. Any recommendations of who to talk to? For top quality smokables? I read some post about "Mr. Cool" under some stairs but can't find the post, unsure if it was on this board, unsure which stairs. Any comments on strains to ask about, I've read "lambs breathe or bread" is a good start. I've read on other forums that other forms of smokables are available, the gummy kind not anything "white"(not my d. O. C.) any thoughts?
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You're in Jamaica, mon! Smoke is everywhere. I have never had a problem in any hotel. Just be private and discreet. I have spent many mornings on a balcony with coffee and a splif. Mr. Cool is still around but not as consistently as before. Ask around for where the straw market is behind Tony's Pizza. Do not buy from the runners. Buy only from a shop owner as they are the sources for most of the street higglers. Look before you buy. If you like it, haggle. An 8-12" bud will run between 50 and 100.




Drinks. Most importantly will I be able to find a COLD Coke (preferably not Pepsi)? Europeans don't seem to believe in ice, barely in refrigeration. Should I bring my own soda and small cooler? Will I be able to buy a bag of ice? How much is a beer? I've read J. Buffets is like $4. 50 (ridiculous) what about most other places? Any other recommendations beside Red Stripe? (I like RS, just curious) Any rum drink suggestions that do not have pinapple, coconut or Kaluha / Tia Maria?
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Cold coke is no problem. In fact you can often find real Coca-Cola made with cane sugar. Look at the label it will just say Coca-Cola. It will NOT say Classic. Classic= corn syrup. Will be canned in Jamaica, Trinidad , Aruba. or some other Caribbean location. Red Stripe is just kind of a tradition with me. Locals drink white overproof rum straight up. Anything else is tourist. Each bartender will have a good repertoire of drinks. Just discuss the flavors and textures you want and he'll come up with something.




Money. I generally prefer to use local currency it's currently $1=$89j which I'll factor to $75j-$80j to account for fluxes and fees. Any reason to bring $j with me? (ex. In AMS you really want about 10Euros for the train from airport until reaching a local ATM, in Mexico just wait til you get there) Only reason I can think of would be for taxi to hotel, which I understand should be no problem with American $'s. Is it correct that there is a decent ATM on Hip Strip? Where? Is it the normal situation of it dispensing $j and my bank gives me pretty decent rate plus $3-$5 fee. I've read not to exchange at airport, hotel or bank but is an ATM ok?

Shopping. While I won't be doing much souvener shopping, I will need to get a few, where do you recommend? I don't forsee falling for scams nor being bothered too much by the "strong sales tactics" as I said I've been to Mexico (border towns and cruises) with no problems (except for being mugged by the Federales), I'm fairly street smart and understand it's generally a matter of staying aware of your surroundings and being respectful but taking any shit and not looking like a victim. How far is the city center shopping? Any particular shops to recommend, I enjoy the flea market/mercado atmosphere. Bargaining is not a problem, I know how to walk away when it suits me.
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Either Ja or US is fine. Most businesses will accept either. Street higglers prefer US. City Centre is a fairly long walk from Wexford and a damn long walk from Toby's. All that is there are jewelry shops and tourist crap. (although there is a great Chinese restaurant there! ) From City Centre you can walk to downtown Mobay, but that is pure local stuff. Interesting, but can be a touch scary for those that are less familiar third world travel. You may want to get to know a good taxi driver to take you around. (only red license plates + JTA decals to be safe) They can show you around to some of the areas both in and outside of town. They can keep you safe and usually provide you with *anything* you want. Find one at or near you hotel and chat with them for a while to see if you have a good vibe. A good driver can be you best asset.




Food. Damn this is going to be a problem, I'm way too picky. First and foremost NO seafood. Goat is also a no. And not too many veggies (Vegetables are what food eats)(I am however definitely a Vagatarian) I like most spices, excluding curry, HOT is fine (as long as there's a beer nearby). I know there's a KFC, BK and pizza at Bobsled. As picky as I am I really prefer to eat places I can not eat at home. Basically what I'm looking for is a good recommendation for a bbq/jerk stand. What is average costs? 2 meals a day is more than ample for me, I don't tend to be terribly afflicted with muchies, but snack suggestions are most welcome. Also, any good (not expensive) Chinese restaurants (found a great one in AMS)
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The Wexford is close to plenty of food. 2 Chinese, the Pelican (kind of a Jamaican Denny's), BK, Margauritaville, Coral Cliff, Bobsled and at least a dozen others. The Pork Pit is near by for good jerk and on some evenings there are oilcan chicken vendors on the street between Coral Cliffs and BK.



Clubs. Strip and otherwise. I've read the one at 51 market is interesting, do I need to take a taxi to it or is it near hip strip? What other strip clubs do you recommend? What are normal drink prices in the SC's? Are they similar to US clubs with lap dances, if so how much? I already understand most have negotiable FS available onsite and the bar fine situation for take-out but, pointers are always welcome. I'll probably have to check out M'ville but don't plan on spend much time (or $) there. Are there any clubs with music other than reggae (Metal or Techno, probably not but I would find it interesting to see how the locals responded to that genre) Where else do you suggest to see a good band, dance, drink, toke (any or ideally all)? I've read not to toke on the streets but what about in clubs? If the locals are doing it is it ok for me to spark one as well.
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Most of the clubs are playing a mix of dancehall, disco, hiphop, soca and reggae. There is a Reggae bar upstairs near the Bobsled. Just a very small bar with reggae music (not live) But very mellow, smoke friendly and can find anything you want there as well. If locals are lighting up, feel free to do the same.

I don't do beaches much but both Aquasol and Dr's Cave are pretty nice. Aquasol caters a bit more to locals and has arcades, go carts and all that stuff. Dr's Cave is quieter and probably a bit safer but you shouldn't have a problem at either one.

Street walkers are all over the strip and they can be quite pushy, to the point of obnoxiousness. Any of the higglers can arrange to get you to the MP as can any driver of bellman. Don't forget to get your game on with local shop and restaurant girls. They are the best and are basically free....just a normal date.[/QUOTE]

Have fun and be sure to report.

pogo

Thank you Pogo, your answers were exactly what I was looking for. A couple of point for clarification, if possible.

How much further is Toby's from the strip? The only map that shows their location puts it a couple of blocks into the water, error obviously. 5-10 minutes walking difference would be fine for the $100 difference where as an additional 20 minutes each way would factor heavily. Also, wouldn't a cab back to Toby's from say Dr. 's Cave beach or M'ville be less than 5 bucks (mainly for a couple semi-drunken evenings). You definitely tempted me to Cave Beach resort with the thought of finding drunken spring breakers, but I think I'm going a tad earlier than most spring breaks, I'll be sure to check their facilities out whether I stay there or not. Any Idea how far Pier 1 is? (heard it was good for Friday night) I found their website but good maps of Mo' Bay seem scarce. I figure, I'll have to get one locally from the tourist center, besides how difficult can it be.

One the smoke topic. Is "Mr Cool" quality sporadic or his availability? Was I supposed to ask around the "Straw Market" for him or is that a recommendation for other options? I assume the 50-100 was US$, $J would be awesome but I know better. But, an 8"-12" bud would almost certainly have to be less than an oz and I was under the impression I should haggle to about US$40 an Oz. My main concern is quality.

I will definitely check out the bar behind the Bobsled, sounds very "mellow".

Any tips on the strip club scene (especially getting to and from) beyond yours, Ford's and Billy Bobs previous reports?

Thanks Again for some Fantastic Answers.

I would also, appreciate anyone else's input.

I will definitely post reports upon my return. Hopefully, productive ones. Faust

[QUOTE=Faust420]Thank you Pogo, your answers were exactly what I was looking for. A couple of point for clarification, if possible.

How much further is Toby's from the strip? The only map that shows their location puts it a couple of blocks into the water, error obviously. 5-10 minutes walking difference would be fine for the $100 difference where as an additional 20 minutes each way would factor heavily. Also, wouldn't a cab back to Toby's from say Dr. 's Cave beach or M'ville be less than 5 bucks (mainly for a couple semi-drunken evenings). You definitely tempted me to Cave Beach resort with the thought of finding drunken spring breakers, but I think I'm going a tad earlier than most spring breaks, I'll be sure to check their facilities out whether I stay there or not. Any Idea how far Pier 1 is? (heard it was good for Friday night) I found their website but good maps of Mo' Bay seem scarce. I figure, I'll have to get one locally from the tourist center, besides how difficult can it be.

One the smoke topic. Is "Mr Cool" quality sporadic or his availability? Was I supposed to ask around the "Straw Market" for him or is that a recommendation for other options? I assume the 50-100 was US$, $J would be awesome but I know better. But, an 8"-12" bud would almost certainly have to be less than an oz and I was under the impression I should haggle to about US$40 an Oz. My main concern is quality.

I will definitely check out the bar behind the Bobsled, sounds very "mellow".

Any tips on the strip club scene (especially getting to and from) beyond yours, Ford's and Billy Bobs previous reports?

Thanks Again for some Fantastic Answers.

I would also, appreciate anyone else's input.

I will definitely post reports upon my return. Hopefully, productive ones. Faust[/QUOTE]

Toby's is at one end of the strip, Wexford is at the other end. Gloustershire and Dr Cave are in the middle. From Toby's to Wexford is around a 20 minute walk. But remember, a walk on the strip especially at night is a constant barrage of higglers and hustlers. It's interesting at first but becomes old pretty fast.

The end at Toby's is somewhat isolated and pretty scarce for restaurants and clubs. The Wexford end is actually fairly close to most of the action. In fact right next door on one side is a good Chinese restaurant and a strip club. (the only one near the strip) On the other side is the Pelican, then the BK then M-Ville and the casino.

Another option is the Caribic House. It is a very basic but clean and safe place right in the middle of the action. It is right above the bobsled cafe, next to a market, and across from the Dr Cave beach. It is often listed on hostel type of sites but you get a private room with all the basic amenities, It should run around $50 during season and maybe $35 in the off season. You'll have to call the hotel directly at 1 876 979 9387

There will be plenty of taxis, higglers and hookers right outside the entrance. Most of the taxi guys that hang out in front have been around for quite a while and can help you with anything you need.

Mr Cool's availability is sporadic plus over the last couple of years he has become a pain in the ass. He does get some good stuff but at high prices. And then he still up-sells and wants a tip. If you tell him you want to spend 100 it may end up at 250. He has been on that street for 14 years, knows every trick in the book and is only interested in the high dollar hustles.

Hit the straw market. Just outside near a vacant hotel there are usually a couple of older Rastas that have shops in there. They are good ones to talk to. The younger ones, who will try to "give" you a bracelet or some other tourist crap are the runners. The older ones that just hang out all day are the sources. They will see you as a more experienced traveler and not a tourist and will treat you right. Or, check with a good taxi driver.

If you get a chance to go to Nine Mile, that is where you will find the absolute best in Jamaica at very reasonable prices. This is where Bob Marley's home, and now grave is at. They offer a very moving tour of the grounds and his life and music. Most of the people that work there are blood relatives of Bob Marley. They don't sell ganja on the property itself....but they have the ganja fence where the neighbors will sell you anything from a $10 splif (well worth it!) to a yard long bud (negotiable). It is the good Ital stuff grown by the true Rastas. But it is a few hours from Mobay. It will probably cost 100-150 for a taxi or you can book a bus tour for a bit less. If you go on your first day, the quality and price difference for the herb may be worth it. Plus, you will experience the heart and soul of Jamaica.

Pier one is a taxi ride, probably around $10. There should be plenty of taxis to get you back or you can have your driver come back to get you. Or invite him to come along with you. (of course you'll be expected to pay the covers and bar tabs)

The only strip club on the street is next to the Wexford. I have not been in there so I have no idea what it is like. There are some other ones in town that any taxi driver can take you to. Again, you may want to invite him to join you for both security and a ride home but get it clear before hand what you will or will not pay for in the club. ie: you buy drinks but he buys his own pussy. Use Jamaican money at strip clubs and MPs for a better deal.

As you can see, a recurrent theme is the need for a good driver. A good driver can also be a good friend and escort to help you really enjoy your time there. Shop around for one that you get along with and treat him well. If you are on a budget, let him know. A good one will work with you especially if you make it fun and interesting for him and treat him as a friend rather than just a tour guide. A Jamaican will do almost anything for a friend.

When are you planning on going? I have to make a trip there sometime in the next month or so but not exactly sure when it will be yet. I'll spend a few days in Ocho Rios and then a few in Mobay.

I hope this helps a bit more. Even though I don't monger there I still love going to Jamaica as often as I can.

pogo

Thank you again, for perfect answers to my questions.

Caribic House is absolutely something I'm checking into. My main problem now is, in doing all my research, I've become torn between going to Mo'Bay or to Negril. At first, I thought, after adding transportation to and from Negril it would bump it out of my budget. But, after a little more searching, I've found I can go from airport to Negril for $20/each way (+$5tip) whereas a cab to Hip Strip would cost me about $10 bucks (+ $2tip) not much of a difference. On the other hand getting from place to place in Negril seems more difficult than the 20 minute walk of Mo' Bay. Side note: the shuttle service (Clive's) also offer a prepaid cell phone for $20/week including about 5 min. Do I need/want one?

It seems nicer hotels (Xtabi, Devine Destiny, Sunset) are available within my meager range. Seemingly, at a lower cost and higher value than Mo' Bay. The cliffs near Rick's sound very cool, as well. It also, seems a slightly less intense hustler factor in Negril (unsure of this) but still enough to find what I'm looking for (I. E quality smokables). From my "research" Negril seems to have a little less "hustle'n'bustle" which I'm not sure if I prefer or not. I'm sooo decisive (grrr). But, Negril also seems to be more exclusively touristy with fewer options of non-pro action. But that is not a key factor. What about Strip Clubs in Negril? Decisions, decisions, decisions, I guess I need to make up my mind soon as I arrive in 10 days (Thursday 3/5/09).

Thanks Again Pogo, no matter where I choose, your answers have been EXTREMELY helpful.

Faust

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Hey guys,

I'm going to Montego Bay in June what is the best place to stay and to find some good looking girl for fun let me know thanks.

[QUOTE=Faust420]Thank you again, for perfect answers to my questions.

Caribic House is absolutely something I'm checking into. My main problem now is, in doing all my research, I've become torn between going to Mo'Bay or to Negril. At first, I thought, after adding transportation to and from Negril it would bump it out of my budget. But, after a little more searching, I've found I can go from airport to Negril for $20/each way (+$5tip) whereas a cab to Hip Strip would cost me about $10 bucks (+ $2tip) not much of a difference. On the other hand getting from place to place in Negril seems more difficult than the 20 minute walk of Mo' Bay. Side note: the shuttle service (Clive's) also offer a prepaid cell phone for $20/week including about 5 min. Do I need/want one?

It seems nicer hotels (Xtabi, Devine Destiny, Sunset) are available within my meager range. Seemingly, at a lower cost and higher value than Mo' Bay. The cliffs near Rick's sound very cool, as well. It also, seems a slightly less intense hustler factor in Negril (unsure of this) but still enough to find what I'm looking for (I. E quality smokables). From my "research" Negril seems to have a little less "hustle'n'bustle" which I'm not sure if I prefer or not. I'm sooo decisive (grrr). But, Negril also seems to be more exclusively touristy with fewer options of non-pro action. But that is not a key factor. What about Strip Clubs in Negril? Decisions, decisions, decisions, I guess I need to make up my mind soon as I arrive in 10 days (Thursday 3/5/09).

Thanks Again Pogo, no matter where I choose, your answers have been EXTREMELY helpful.

Faust

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Good herb is everywhere. Just be picky, tell them you have been to Jamaica many times and don't want tourist prices or quality. Look for a true Rasta. They usually have a very calm, non-pushy attitude and a look of kindness and warmth. But even the crap you'll get from the hustlers will still make you VERY happy...so don't sweat it. Grab something quick on the street to hold you until you find the right connection. Again, a good taxi man is your friend.

You can get to either Negril or Ocho Rios for $20.....which brings up another viable option.

Mobay is an urban environment. Along the Strip you can walk to almost anything you want or a quick taxi for a few places like the Pier, good strip clubs MPs etc.

Negril is a bit more rural/resort. You really can't walk to everything and where ever you are there will only be a few bars/restaurants etc nearby. However, taxis are everywhere and driving in the area is pretty easy if you want to rent a car or scooter. I would NOT recommend this anywhere else in Jamaica, but Negril isn't too bad.

In Negril, you could get an evening pass to Hedo II for about $80. That gets you all the food and drink you can handle. Things get extremely wild on the nude side of the resort as well as at the piano bar and disco. There will be amateur , swinger and pro action available. If you stay next door at Point Village you can walk to Hedo for your night pass....or.... either a little stealth or a few bucks to security and you can sneak in via the nude beach at Point Village. I have done that a few times. However...that end on Negril is mostly large all inclusives and you are quite a way from the West End, where there are more bars and restaurants as well as inexpensive hotels. Mid town is mostly beach scene, much of it clothing optional.

Ochi is another option. Still a bit urban, but tons of places you can go on foot. There is a Martgueritaville, a Hard Rock and tons of other places to go within walking distance.

Rooms on the Beach is around $90 per night and is very nice and a great value for the price. Sandcastles can sometimes be found online for for around $65 - $85 with some rates that include a pretty decent breakfast. All the rooms have a kitchenette as well. Pier View is in the middle of town right across from the casino. Should be around $50 and I believe it also has a kitchen. No web presence but their phone is
+1 876 974 2607

There are 2 straw markets, one behind Island Village and another in the center of town. Both have good supplies available. Plenty of guys on the street have stuff, but the markets are the main sources.

Street walker hustle is not as intense as in Mobay, but is available. There is a strip club right behind Soni Plaza (big tourist duty-free mall) that is open during the day as well as at night. I haven't been there or heard anything good or bad about it. You can get "massage" service there as well.

Then there is Shades. [url]http://www.shadesnightclub.com/programme.htm[/url] Check out the photo at the bottom of the page and also click on the Freaky Freaky night link. This as about as hard core of a strip club as you will ever see. And of course a full menu of services are available for dine in or take out.

Since you like the herb and if you go to either Ochi or Mobay, I still strongly suggest that you splurge on a trip to 9 Mile. A private driver will run around $80-100 or a tour desk at your hotel can get you on a group tour for a lot less. Expect it to be rather smokey on the bus ride back. The produce you will find there will be the best on the island at a very fair asking price. Of course you can still negotiate a better price as well. It is more than worth it as that same quality in town is very expensive, especially if you include some trial and error in finding what you want. It is not really an option from Negril as it is too far and would be too costly.

Ooops...just noticed that you are already in Jamaica so sorry if this came a bit late to be of help but I'll post it anyway.

Hope you are having a blast!

pogo

[QUOTE=Faust420]Thank you again, for perfect answers to my questions.

Caribic House is absolutely something I'm checking into. My main problem now is, in doing all my research, I've become torn between going to Mo'Bay or to Negril. At first, I thought, after adding transportation to and from Negril it would bump it out of my budget. But, after a little more searching, I've found I can go from airport to Negril for $20/each way (+$5tip) whereas a cab to Hip Strip would cost me about $10 bucks (+ $2tip) not much of a difference. On I guess I need to make up my mind soon as I arrive in 10 days (Thursday 3/5/09).

Thanks Again Pogo, no matter where I choose, your answers have been EXTREMELY helpful.

Faust[/QUOTE]Hey Faust,

Haven't been to Jamaica for a very long time, and it might be close to a year until I get back there (heading for Kenya in August for some nice ebony action though!). Was wondering how your trip went, do you have a report for the Board?

This part of the Board really could use it since it seems so stale.

F & S

Don't know if he still works there but Dean, The Wexford hotel driver, is a great resource for mongering. I went there blind and he saved my trip. He even drove me to Kingston, which was an all night trip, but he made it more than worth it. I hear the roads are better now and it's not an all nighter as b4..NG

Hey guys

Plan a trip to montego in the second week of January 2010 for 10 days. Any recommendations concerning some nice jamaican ladies? Will stay in an apartment.

Thanks for any advice / help

I was reading through the older reports today and found a few mentions of guys staying at the El Greco. This surprised me; I've only been to MoBay once (with the wife, so no hobby fun), we stayed at El Greco. This is not a hotel I would choose if I was bringing guests back, because there were not only security guards at the entrances to the property, there were guards in every stairwell. One of the regular guard posts was right outside the door of our room. Most of the time the guard was a woman, I can't imagine that she'd be an easy bribe.

That was in April 09, maybe things were different longer ago? I would like to hear what others who've stayed at El Greco have to say.

Day #6:

My regular never showed up so I never really gave her muc, maybe $100 for 4 days. Well Andre came over by 10: 15 and we took off. When we arrived in Montego Bay I checked out Caribic House but I didn't like it so I settled on Toby's for $89 a night.

We went to the first house and there was 2 girls but mine was no where in site and they called her. $120 was the house fee for 24 hours and I bumped into one of the girls later on and she said they liked a $300 tip for that period. They over state everything here.

We went to Oceanview for a massage, $40 and a $10 tip but the one I picked was an "8". Andre had business in town so I hung there about 90 minutes more. Its a cool place. My girl has a guy in California and told me $300 a day in Negril, or $2100 for the week. By the end of the 90 she was down to $700 for the week. I think I can get her for $500 for the week.

I was walking around and there are many girls here, moving around aimlessly, not sure what the deal is but he said they all work on the side.

There is Tourist Police on this strip until 2am so its very safe. The taxi was $5 to go 8 blocks so I shall walk it. There are cops every other block.

We were driving around and spotted this hole in the wall strip club downtown. 200 to get in and 12 dancers. Well there were 6 dogs, 1 cute one and one hot one. She asked me if I would buy her a drink but I asked what else they do there and she said, fucking for 2000 for 30 minutes in the back, bingo!

Last night there were three ugly hookers on the street here and about 10 in the casino and then there was Kim, 5 ft 4, 110 pounds, flat tummy, small tits and smooth leggs. She wanted $150 but I said $50 and walked away. She settled for $70 and we went back. She looked 24 but was 31. She lkept trying to upsell but I told her to stop it already. She was a solid "8" in my book.

We talked about going to Negril for the week at a later time.

The girls are here and after they know you I am guessing about $200. $600 for their time for a week in Negril. The girls from the stripclubs might be the way to go.

Western Union is here and many girls think they have gold between their leggs. My trip will be over and I had 3 so far, not the 10 I wanted but its trip 1.

Took a swim today, the place is empty and the front desk said have a maid wash my clothes so I asked one and its 500J for a weeks worth, not bad. I will be repacked and ready for my next jump off.

Made it downtown, got a haircut and shave for 500. Bought a 20 oz Pepsi for 55 and found an internet for 200. Will look around for a place with girls around here soon.

Lets get to the center center, its great, girls are everywhere. I was walking and this guy walked up to me and said, you know me, but I kept walking and it was the guy on the plane that I was chatting with. He will come get me at 9 and take me to the stripclubs. Met some girls that would do a massage for $50 for two hours but I passed.

The students are out, the college girls are here and the ones in training acadamies are here. I saw about 25 cute ones walking, my head is spinning.

The tourist police are in the main areas and the regular police are here in the center.

Saw this girl with a different type of haircut, after a few minutes, the four of us were off to a Chinese restaurant. She couldn't go swimming because she was having her period and did't want to stick a tampon up there. She said something in Spanish, turns out her grandma is Cuban so she is a quarter Spanish and yes I have pictures.

She has cramps but wants to meet me later. She is a country girl. I was talking to about 8 different ones before I setteled on her.

Back out there again, saw one that may have been a tourist but wasn't. We chatted and chatted and I told her that I loke longterm friends. She has a visa and was in NY so I told her, I have no time now but if I ever see you in NY or here in April, I would buy her dinner, but not now. Well she gave me her e mail address. A girl with a Visa and a good job, I love Jamaica.

Took a route taxi to see where it goes and guess what, it goes to the airport for 70 and right straight downtown as well. Second cheapest to Tobago where you can walk into the airport.

Well Kim came back at 6:08 as planned and we went to eat. I choose a place I passed and we split a large pizza then went back to my place. We fucked once and just hung. I could have done a second pop if I wanted as well. I gave her $100 as we agreed on, she was there for 4 hours and we walked back to her spot. Yes they will negotiate after that first meeting. She was kissing me and I took pictures. Tonight she will spend the whole night. I told her I was here until Saturday.

Had breakfast at Burger King for 300 rather than the hotel for 1100.

Took the route taxi for 70 to the airport. Used the Kiosk to get my boarding pass and I am back downtown. I will get to the airport at 4:15 for my 5:25 flight. So simple here.

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I'm heading to Montego Bay in December for a conference.
Staying at the Rose Hall Resort. It's out past Half Moon Bay.
Anyone know if I can bring a local girl in there?

It's a fair distance into Montego Bay (15 miles) so I might not be going into town much. Any good places for finding girls outside of the city?

I was thinking I would just ask hotel staff about girls, maybe some of them are pimping? But I guess I will get stuck with a higher price structure if I work from within the hotel. Any idea what would be normal for a few hours or overnight?

I'm 50, white and average build. Obviously I am expecting to pay for play. I don't really like the idea of going into Mobay and cruising the street for hookers or some of rougher bars. Where can a tourist troll for girls in a relatively safe way?

[QUOTE=Gentleman Travel]I'm heading to Montego Bay in December for a conference.
Staying at the Rose Hall Resort. It's out past Half Moon Bay.
Anyone know if I can bring a local girl in there?

It's a fair distance into Montego Bay (15 miles) so I might not be going into town much. Any good places for finding girls outside of the city?

I was thinking I would just ask hotel staff about girls, maybe some of them are pimping? But I guess I will get stuck with a higher price structure if I work from within the hotel. Any idea what would be normal for a few hours or overnight?

I'm 50, white and average build. Obviously I am expecting to pay for play. I don't really like the idea of going into Mobay and cruising the street for hookers or some of rougher bars. Where can a tourist troll for girls in a relatively safe way?[/QUOTE]

Unfortunately, the Rose Hall area is not a real good mongering location. It may be in the future with some of the new developments that are underway...but pretty dead right now. Not sure about bringing guests, but as a rule the only places where it is a problem is in the all inclusives.

There are still some options.

If you got game you can always try for some amateurs. Girls that work at the hotel or any of the nearby shops are always possible. Many Jamaican girls are intrigued by Americans. Jamaican men tend to be abusive where us 50 something Americans tend to be appreciative and considerate.

Talk to the bellmen, bartenders and taxi drivers. They will usually have some resources, but will expect a big tip for the service. But at least you'll probably get something reliable. Same for any party supplies.

Have a taxi guy take you to the massage parlors. The parlors are safe and comfortable. The driver will wait for you. But...you will of course have to pay him and tip him (negotiate the fare before you get in the car). You will also pay slightly more at the parlor as they also tip the driver. But this is safe, sure and you are guaranteed to get what you want.

Spend an evening on the Hip Strip. It is safe and fun and good a mix of tourist, upscale local and professional girls. Plenty of bars, food, casinos and pussy. Margueritiville is touristy, fun, open all day and at night, has good food.

Grab a table streetside at the Bobsled Cafe (also owned by Jimmy Buffett). Have a bite or a few beers. Anything you may want will pass by right next to you. Dr Cave Beach is nice during the day and has the Groovy Grouper at night(another JB enterprise). It's a mellow laid back bar and restaurant.

The casino is across from M-ville. Plenty to be had there.

Even if you don't find action (unlikely), you will have a good, safe time on the strip. It is worth the trip. You can walk around anywhere on the strip safely. You will be approached by higglers for ganja, women, and whatever. They are the least reliable sources, but are not a threat. Just be friendly, respectful (respect is big in Jamaica) and tell them you have all you need and there will be no problem. Most of them are pretty cool.

I'll be there in December. It is one of my favorite places.

Have fun
pogo

[QUOTE=Pogostick]Unfortunately, the Rose Hall area is not a real good mongering location. ...

I'll be there in December. It is one of my favorite places.

Have fun
pogo[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the background info.
I will be in MoBay Dec 7-11, when is your trip?

[QUOTE=Gentleman Travel]Thanks for the background info.
I will be in MoBay Dec 7-11, when is your trip?[/QUOTE]

I'm not quite sure when I'll be there. It just depends on when my clients are ready for me and when I finish up with other islands. I usually book my trips on about one week in advance or less.

As an example, I'm in Curacao right now. I'm supposed to leave here early next week but it is looking like I may have to stay on at least few extra days. That won't bother me at all as I only get here once or twice a year and Camp Alegre is as close to heaven as you will find in this hemisphere.

However, the timing of your visit is within the general time frame for me to be in Jamaica. If it works out that way I'll let you know and we can get together. I usually stay on the strip but I have stayed at Rose Hall a few times as well. It's a nice place.

If you get a chance to do a day trip I highly recommend visiting 9 Mile. It was Bob Marley's home and he is interred there now. It is the true soul of Jamaica. Even though it is a tourist attraction, it is not touristy. It is better than any of the other tours. Check the price at the tour desk at the hotel, and then talk to a taximan and negotiate a deal.

Even if it is a few dollars more it will be worth it. The tours will take you to attractions but with plenty of kickback shopping stops as well. With a private car, you can do what you want at your pace and a good driver will know a few other interesting places as well that aren't on the tours. Be sure to hit a good jerk pit for lunch.

pogo

Has anyone been to Moods latly there were two girls i meet at campo alegre that strip at that club in montego bay there names were cristal and candy. I last visted them in Oct a week after they finish up at campo in 09 and last month in campo they said they have not come back.

I tried out the ocean view massage centre yesterday.

It is very easy to find. If you are coming from the airport go around the big traffic circle about 1/2 way and you will see Queens Drive. This is referred to by local as Top Road. It runs on the mountain above the Hip Strip (Bottom Road). About a mile up Quees road you will see the Hi-Lites Cafe on your right. Turn in there and follow the driveway down to a house. That is the Ocean View massage centre. You won't get confused as there is only one house on that driveway. You need to press a buzzer for admittance. You will then be escorted to the bar and handed a menu of services. There is a delightful fragrance of ganja in the air.

While you are checking out the menu or having a drink about 10 girls will come out and line up in front of you. Overall they were a pretty good looking selection ranging from 6 to 8. Nothing bad, nothing spectacular.

I chose Alaya a short little spinner and the basic "sensuous" massage for $40us. It was described on the menu as a light massage ending in ejaculation. We went to an office where I paid the fee and then to a room with a bathroom/shower and a fairly large room with a big massage table.

The view from the room is spectacular. But I was there in the afternoon and there was no AC and it was HOT. She turned on a couple of fans and that helped. We both stripped to full nude and I hopped onto the table. She did a light baby oil rub on my legs and told me to turn over. Then she did the same on the front of my legs. I reached out and rubbed her breast at which point she said any more and I must pay more. No problem, I expected that. She asked what I wanted. I said I wanted DATY and FS. She quoted $200us. She would not back down on the price for FS but offered DATY and BJ for $120. I countered with everything for $150. No go. So I went for the 120 deal and got busy. DATY would have been tasty if not for the fact that we were both sweating from the heat. But I got her off (who knows for sure with hookers) and then it was my turn. CBJ was not bad, but not spectacular. I showered off and she escorted me to the door.

Overall. Not bad, not great.compared to the Jamaican SWs I have seen, these girls were way better. They were for the most part slender and very pretty. Perhaps some of the other girls may have been more negotiable. I also didn't feel a great connection with my girl and perhaps another might have been better. But that's all part of mongering. I would also go at night when it might be a little cooler.

Compared to other parts of the Caribbean, Jamaica is very expensive. I spent a total of $160. That would be 4 sessions in SXM or and overnight with a model/sex artist in Bangkok. I can even beat the price and service in the US.

Would I go again? Maybe, but it is certainly not a reason to travel to Jamaica. But if you have the itch and can afford the scratch it can get the job done.

Wagstaff

If you bypass the pros there are literally thousands of beautiful girls that would be happy to spend time with you for little are nothing, the nice girls do not want to be assiociated with hookers and will not ask for money, remember the people are very poor by our standards, buy them a few drinks a little food and when they leave give them a little something to help them out and they will love you for it. The jamacians are wonderful people and fun to be with treat them with respect and you will have a great time, see my post on Negril.

[QUOTE=Wagstaff]I tried out the ocean view massage centre yesterday.

It is very easy to find. If you are coming from the airport go around the big traffic circle about 1/2 way and you will see Queens Drive. This is referred to by local as Top Road. It runs on the mountain above the Hip Strip (Bottom Road). About a mile up Quees road you will see the Hi-Lites Cafe on your right. Turn in there and follow the driveway down to a house. That is the Ocean View massage centre. You won't get confused as there is only one house on that driveway. You need to press a buzzer for admittance. You will then be escorted to the bar and handed a menu of services. There is a delightful fragrance of ganja in the air.

While you are checking out the menu or having a drink about 10 girls will come out and line up in front of you. Overall they were a pretty good looking selection ranging from 6 to 8. Nothing bad, nothing spectacular.

I chose Alaya a short little spinner and the basic "sensuous" massage for $40us. It was described on the menu as a light massage ending in ejaculation. We went to an office where I paid the fee and then to a room with a bathroom/shower and a fairly large room with a big massage table.

The view from the room is spectacular. But I was there in the afternoon and there was no AC and it was HOT. She turned on a couple of fans and that helped. We both stripped to full nude and I hopped onto the table. She did a light baby oil rub on my legs and told me to turn over. Then she did the same on the front of my legs. I reached out and rubbed her breast at which point she said any more and I must pay more. No problem, I expected that. She asked what I wanted. I said I wanted DATY and FS. She quoted $200us. She would not back down on the price for FS but offered DATY and BJ for $120. I countered with everything for $150. No go. So I went for the 120 deal and got busy. DATY would have been tasty if not for the fact that we were both sweating from the heat. But I got her off (who knows for sure with hookers) and then it was my turn. CBJ was not bad, but not spectacular. I showered off and she escorted me to the door.

Overall. Not bad, not great.compared to the Jamaican SWs I have seen, these girls were way better. They were for the most part slender and very pretty. Perhaps some of the other girls may have been more negotiable. I also didn't feel a great connection with my girl and perhaps another might have been better. But that's all part of mongering. I would also go at night when it might be a little cooler.

Compared to other parts of the Caribbean, Jamaica is very expensive. I spent a total of $160. That would be 4 sessions in SXM or and overnight with a model/sex artist in Bangkok. I can even beat the price and service in the US.

Would I go again? Maybe, but it is certainly not a reason to travel to Jamaica. But if you have the itch and can afford the scratch it can get the job done.

Wagstaff[/QUOTE]

My two cents on Ocean View Massage, formerly known as Relaxation and Rejuvenation Centre: If you are in Mo'Bay for only a few hours, like getting of a cruise ship, making an airline connection, or whatever then it is worthwhile to head there.

Otherwise it is way too expensive compared to other sources of P4P in Jamaica. USD 100 is generous for a girl to stay all night and most of the morning if you have a bit more time, and there are so many girls there that are willing to go with you "for free" if you stay there for a holiday. (They will want you to buy them little presents, clothes, money to buy food for their baby, money to pay for xyz etc.

If you decide to head to Ocean View Massage, then have the taxi take you to Hi Lites cafe, have him drop you of there, and wait for him to leave. Then head down the drive way to the massage parlour. It is the only house under the large Red Stripe sign, so you can't miss it, but there is no sign on the door or anything like that. On your way back, just grab a taxi from Top Road, loads of them come by there. Reason for this convoluted strategy - save the $10 commission that they pay the driver and then pass on to you with the more expensive menu.

Sorry, a bit of a rambling post...

Got back from Mo'Bay not too long ago, and think that a lot of things have changed, although not necessarily for the worst, and changes aren't that big, but thought that I would post some updated information about things that will hopefully be useful for you fellow sex adventurers out there (not necessarily anything new, but reading back on this thread it has been a while since the information has been updated). Looking forward to hearing reactions from others that go to Jamaica on what your take is on my musings.

OK, let's start with Margaritaville. I think they have gotten a lot more strict about allowing in girls that are there "to work" rather than to have fun. I have mongered in loads of countries, and many times in Jamaica, so think myself of pretty skilled in picking out girls that are working rather than there for fun (only). Not really a problem since especially on Saturdays there are loads of girls that, to use the local term, sell p-ssy, hanging around outside Margaritaville and up towards former Moods, now called Xtatic.

They also have some sort of street patrol (men and women wearing white shirts) strolling up and down the Hip Strip day and night, think they stop at 2am, keeping the hustlers as well as the street walkers away or at least in check. Not necessarily a bad development, the hustlers are a pain and am not a fan of street walkers.

Oh, and here is a picture of Margaritaville taken from Coral Cliff casino. As you can see the establishment isn't exactly the size of legendary establishment's like now defunct Discotheca Help or Insomnia... In front of the pic are two of the waitresses from Coral Cliff, some of these waitresses are pretty hot and am sure if you got a bit of game then you can get their numbers.

The information on strip clubs is up to date if yo scroll back on this board. There are loads of strip clubs/go-gos in Mo'Bay, Moods (now Xtatic) if you walk past Margaritaville and then past Wexford. There's a big painted sign on the building so you can't miss it. Things here start late, so doesn't really get going until 12:30 at night and weekends are best. They supposedly now have a live sex show on late night around 2:30-3:00 on Saturdays.

If you go a bit further down towards Pork Pit then there is another strip club there, but I didn't go there since I didn't have time.

In town there is the infamous Goldfingers (didn't go this trip), walked past Club Las Vegas but think they have moved from market street to the next street, but maybe I was just high (on life, nothing else...) and remember wrong...

If you go to a strip club in town, always go with a trusted driver and have him wait for you until you are ready to leave. I would not pay the driver more than 1,000 jamaican for this since he will collect 500 from management and all he has to do is sit in the car.

If you go to one of the strip clubs closer to Margaritaville, you will have to make your way through loads of hustlers/touts while walking there. Just keep going calmly, and don't let any of them walk you up to the door since then they will claim a commission from the club for supposedly taking you there. This will, ofcourse, be added to your bill or what you have to pay for entrance. Do not believe any of their stories that they can get you cheaper entrance, and ignore their stories that they can hook you up with a prettier girl for cheaper, etc. There really is no reason to use the hustlers for anything, and you will quickly find your feet and be able to set things up for yourself.

Here is a picture taken from my balcony at The Wexford. If you go left at the sign for the Chinese restaurant then that takes you to Xtatic. If you keep going down towards the turn of the road in the picture then this takes you to the next strip club, forgot it's name.

"No, this is not your first trip to Jamaica. You have been to Jamaica many times, and you are here for several weeks."

Most people you talk to will quite quickly ask you if this is your first time to Jamaica. Remember, this is not a social question, you are being asked this to see if you have an idea of what prices are (for whatever you are looking to get, a taxi ride, a girl, some of the local herbiage, etc).

Answering that this is your first trip shows the person that not only don't you really know the lay of the land yet, you are also naive enough to tell someone that this is your first trip. (This holds for almost all countries you monger in, but it bears repeating for Jamaica since this is probably one of the more advanced and difficult, and one of the more fun, mongering destinations that there are.)

I am looking for two girls that dance at Moods under the name of Cristai and Candy i meet them at campo Alegre and spent a week with them on the island.

We would like some suggestions on inexpensive hotels(40-60/nite possible?) that is near the action.

Has anyone tried this hotel?

GF?

[QUOTE=Wrongedswed]Has anyone tried this hotel?

GF?[/QUOTE]

It's not really near the action. Try the Caribic House, right on the strip and in your price range. You can search the forum and I think you can find the phone number. No website that I know of.


[url]http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g147311-d155088-Reviews-Caribic_House-Montego_Bay_Jamaica.html[/url]

pogo

Goldfingers is now closed since the owner got shot a while back. Some new management tried to keep it going, but didn't run it as well as the old owner used to. (He was a real cool guy that lived several years in London, and was sad to hear the news that he has passed away.)

For info on some clubs within walking distance of the Hip Strip, see my post further down this thread. Moods has a freaky show on Saturdays that is worth attending, but it starts late, around 4am.

There is also a go-go in Aquasol (yes, that is Aquasol beach) called Dreamz. They do a freaky show on Mondays, and it is an all you can drink deal for USD 30 or if you pay in Jamaican Dollars, 2,000. Their website, which is pretty useless, is [url]www.mobayfreakyparties.com[/url] This was pretty worthwhile for a Monday night, they had four "freaks" (the girls that fuck each other and the customers) on stage, and the show started early with banana sucking, lesbian show, pussy eating contest, dick sucking contest, and finished around four with a free for all with all the girls and the guys that had come on stage. This was pretty worthwhile for a Monday evening when nothing much is happening elsewhere in Mo'Bay.

In town there are a number of small gogos that cater to locals, worth checking out even though most of the girls are a bit to thick for my taste.

There are also two gogos if you head towards the airport, one before you get to the airport, and one about a five minute drive past the airport. The girls at the second one are not shy... There are also several gogos if you take the road towards Negril within a few minutes drive from Mo'Bay.

In my view it is not worthwhile to take out a girl from a go go. You need to pay her barfine, and she has very high expectations for how much she will be paid to come with you at night. Similarly, the rooms at the gogos are pretty dirty, costly to rent, and the girls have high expectations for how much you will pay them to come in the room with you. Much better to get their cell phone numbers and call them the next day. They are all happy to come to your hotel for a few hours of fun for a pretty good price.

Also, at Moods in particular, and at lots of other gogos as well, there are actually quite a few girls hanging out. A lot of these girls are available to go with you if you want to, but they don't work for the gogo so there is no barfine, and they vary from pretty hardened pros, to semi-pros, to quarter pros... Be a bit careful though, some of them are non-pros (which shouldn't stop you from hitting on them) and some of them are there with their boyfriends, so approach with a bit of care. Make eye contact, smile, if she smiles back then walk over and talk to her.

Massage Parlours aren't really my scene, even for day time play (much better and cheaper to have a girl come meet me at the beach, then take her to my hotel room). However, here is some information that will hopefully be useful for fellow sex adventurers:

Mo'Bay has loads of massage parlours in addition to what used to be called Relaxation and Rejuvenation Center and is now called something else. (This is the massage parlour that is located on Top Road, right next to the big Red Strip sign.) All drivers that stand around on the Hip Strip are very keen to take you there, for the reason that it pays them the highest commission (USD 10). This massage parlour is the most expensive one, both in terms of cost of going to the room with the girl at minimum USD 40, and the girls start their bidding at USD 150 for full service, which is ridiculous for Jamaica.

If a driver suggests to take you to that one, say that you don't like it, and they will start listing out other possibilities. Here are coordinates for one on the hip strip:

Starting out at Dr Cave Beach, facing away from the ocean, turn left. Walk past the Havana Lounge, and be on the look out for a sign for Montego Bay Institute of Technology. At this yellow building, turn right into the side street. (Politely ignore all the touts trying to get you to go to the nearby craft market.) Keep going until you are past the yellow building (about 25 yards) and you see a fence. Where there is a turn left through the fence, walk in there. To your left is a "restaurant" that is more like a shack and you can order food through the window and there is nowhere to sit, and to your right as you look straight ahead is a second Jamaican restaurant with a pool table outside. (This restaurant has good food for about 350 Jamaican, so it is cheaper and better to eat there than at the hip strip. I think this place is only open during the day time though.) Walk past the restaurant, and look out for a white door. This has a door bell that says emergency on it. Wonder what sort of emergency they have in mind... :) Ring the bell, wait for a few minutes, and you will be let in. Have a seat, look at the menu, wait for the girls to be introduced, and enjoy. Prices here are Jamaican 1,800 for the girl to go in the room with you (that is about USD 20) and you can have full service for about Jamaican 4,000 to 6,000. That is USD 50 to 75. Location is a bit worse than the place on Top Road, but service is better.

If you struggle to find it, ask someone. Give them Jamaican 100 to help you with this, but don't let them ring the door bell for you since then you will get stuck with the higher price menu to pay their commission.

There is one more massage parlour if you head towards the airport which I have not been to.

There is also a massage parlour on the third floor of an office building in town, but get a driver to take you since it's a bit difficult to find I think. There are also other massage parlours in Mo'Bay, but I think they are too pricey and not that much fun, so can't add to much on this scene.

To update on Wexford Hotel, this place is not nearly as girl friendly as it used to be. A lot of frowning when you bring in girls, sometimes a bit of arguing whether "visiting hours" are still going in the day time, a night receptionist that is a total dork (as proof of this, he wears sunglasses at night when he is at work). Extra person charge of USD 20 at night, sometimes outright refusal to bring in guests in the day time. Night receptionist will ignore that you have an extra guest and the extra guest charge for a bribe of JMD 1,000. This used to be a cool hotel, but after a renovation, which to me looks like all they did was to move the reception and paint a little bit they have gotten a lot less friendly to our hobby. Would not stay there again.

Gloucestershire was closed on my last two visits. Supposedly for refurbishment, but didn't look like any work was going on. A shame since this hotel is in an excellent location in the middle of the hip strip.

Toby's Resort was great though. Unlimited visitors in the day time at no charge, a courtesy tip to the security guards of 100 Jamaican for them to ignore that I walk around the building with the reception area when I am with a girl, that's all. If spotted by the receptionist, then all she makes you do is sign the girl in, but there is no charge in the day time for this. In the evenings there is an extra person charge of USD 20, but reception closes at 11pm (and nothing in Mo'Bay starts before midnight) so you can just work things out with security who are supposed to collect the extra person charge. (Don't want to post more than than comment in order not to get some people that were good to me in trouble, but PM me if you want more details on how to work around security.)

The place to go on Friday nights is Pier 1, pretty much everyone goes there on that night. Lots of providers, and also lots of semi-pros, quarter-pros, non-pros, civilians, and touristas. Some of the touristas are pretty hot...

To get in is 500 Jamaican, and there is no point to show up before midnight. In terms of location, it is located along the water front, and you get there through a bit of an industrial/warehouse area. It's not a good idea to try to walk there late at night since it is far and next to down town Mo'Bay, so take a taxi from the hip strip. This will be a bit costly at 300-400 jamaican since route taxis don't go there. To get back is more expensive. The drivers all collude and try for USD 20, USD 10, 1,000 jamaican type of prices. I think the best option is to call your regular driver, and pay him 1,000 jamaican to both take you there and to take you back after (this is too expensive, but avoids a lot of hassle). If you don't have a driver then negotiate something like with the driver that takes you there. Do not try to walk home when you leave since this is not safe, if your driver strands you outside Pier 1 by not showing up then just bite the bullet and pay the expensive price.

Due to the entrance fee, loads of not very good looking street girls and hustlers stand around outside. Just ignore them when you walk in, and when you come out don't let one of the hustlers walk you to the car since he will demand a tip for showing you where it is.

Pier 1 is fun. The set up is that you walk in and there is an open air area under a roof, with a large bar in the middle. There is a lot of space around the bar area where people stand around and talk as well as dance, and the music is mostly jamaican dancehall and not top 40 crap. Sadly a few all inclusives has started providing mini-bus services for their guests to Pier 1, so there is a growing number of lamester civilians there, but let's hope this place does not go down hill too fast because of that. The bartender to customer ratio is not sufficient, so it will take you a little while to get a drink. If you tip jamaican 50 each time you get a drink then this will get you served much faster the next time you come for a drink. At the end of the open area there is a pier, thus Pier 1, where people go to smoke ganja, and get away from the loud music. If you want to smoke then bring your own smoking supplies since it is expensive to get it on the pier.

Friday night at Pier 1 is a great night to gather phone numbers, so move around a bit and talk to lots of girls. Remember that all of them are not professionals, but they can still be had if you talk smoothly and be nice. I have spotted a few real stunners there, but the super hot providers will get snapped up quite quickly and come at a hefty (by jamaican standards) price. Avoid standing around the bar area unless you are shy and want the pros to approach you. The pros will approach discretely since being to blatant about it will get them kicked out of there and banned, what they do is that they come stand next to you and dance, try to make eye contact, and then if you seem interested then they come up and ask you for a light, a cigarette, or similar. The later it gets the more aggressive they get in their approach. If you are new to mongering, and don't know how to recognise the pros and semi-pros, they are the girls that look a bit bored, stand in a little group or by themselves, and are not approached by the jamaican men (who know that they are pros and thus no point in flirting with them).

On other nights they sometimes have little shows, karaoke and similar, which is nice if you want somewhere to take your local non-pro girl friend for a nice and relaxed evening. She will like this since that takes you both away from the mongering scene around the Hip Strip.

The food at Pier 1 is crap and expensive, so don't go there for dinner even though it is a restaurant on other nights.

Any experienced monger knows that a local cell phone is a must have accessory on a mongering trip longer than a few days, and particularly so in Jamaica since there is no day time scene and it is hard to meet hot girls on week day evenings sometimes as well too.

A cell phone is also a must have accessory if you want to try to get with a non-pro girl, or two non-pro girls...

There are two options to acquiring a local cell phone, bring an unlocked phone from home and buy a chip for 500 jamaican, or buy the cheapest local phone available which will cost you about 2,000 jamaican. You will need to show your passport to get the chip since that is jamaican law, so take your passport with you to the store or you will have to go back to your hotel and get it and stand in line again. Making cell phone calls and sending texts is very cheap in jamaica, so don't load your phone with more than 500 jamaican of credit for two weeks. Topping up is expensive, so do a big top up in the store when you get your phone/chip.

There are two digicell stores that I know of in Mo'Bay, one on the hip strip towards the end (close to Buccaneers/Jolly Rogers so on the opposite end from Margaritaville) and one in town. The one in town has a much better selection of phones, and going into town to get your phone/chip is a good way to go on your first venture into down town so my recommendation is to head there in the morning of your second day in Jamaica. To get to downtown digicell, either ask a taxi to take you there (for 300 jamaican) or take a route taxi, get of at taxi central, and walk straight down the street past the gas station and a bit further. The digicell store is on the left side of the street.

Having acquired your new cell phone, go have some lunch and as a challenge try to get the waitress' phone number. Then walk over to the local shopping mall, and flirt with girls that are hanging around, that work in stores etc. This is so much easier than you think if you do it with a smile, act nicely, etc. Say things like "I just got a new phone, do you mind if I try it out by ringing you?" Believe me, this will get you her number in eight out of ten cases. Then ask her what she is doing for dinner, ask her to have coffee with you, or something. Make it your mission not to return from downtown with your new phone until you have the number of five hotties! :)

Some more musings/tips on cell phones:

Don't lend your phone to girls or anyone else without watching carefully, since they will text themselves credit from your phone otherwise.

You can use your home cell phone on roaming too (US phones work in Jamaica) but this will be expensive, and girls and other mongerers will not want to call you since it's expensive.

Put your phone on silent. When jamaican girls call you and you don't pick up then they will phone five times at least which is annoying even if your phone is only on vibrate.

[QUOTE=Fun And Sun]Any experienced monger knows that a local cell phone is a must have accessory on a mongering trip longer than a few days, and particularly so in Jamaica since there is no day time scene and it is hard to meet hot girls on week day evenings sometimes as well too.

A cell phone is also a must have accessory if you want to try to get with a non-pro girl, or two non-pro girls...

There are two options to acquiring a local cell phone, bring an unlocked phone from home and buy a chip for 500 jamaican, or buy the cheapest local phone available which will cost you about 2,000 jamaican.[/QUOTE]
Are there any pan-Caribbean cell phone deals?
Like do I need to get a SIM card for Jamaica and a different one for Haiti in order to get decent local rates?

Actually, now that I think of it, the old spare cell phone I would use for this is a 5 year-old Samsung CDMA phone. Maybe it doesn't even use a SIM card? Is that possible? If not, how do I get it connected to a new service in Jamaica or elsewhere?

[QUOTE=Gentleman Travel]Are there any pan-Caribbean cell phone deals?
Like do I need to get a SIM card for Jamaica and a different one for Haiti in order to get decent local rates?

Actually, now that I think of it, the old spare cell phone I would use for this is a 5 year-old Samsung CDMA phone. Maybe it doesn't even use a SIM card? Is that possible? If not, how do I get it connected to a new service in Jamaica or elsewhere?[/QUOTE]

I saw some signs for cell phone deals covering multiple islands, but didn't look into it that much to be honest.

If you are taking an old phone, you need to get it unlocked or other sim cards will not work, and that is actually pretty expensive, like USD 40 or so. I think all phones use sim cards nowadays. Take the old phone with you, and if you can't get it to work then the cheapest phone in the store is something like 1,960 jamaican, i.e. USD 25.

There is still a streetwalker scene along the Hip Strip, but there are fewer girls than there used to be a few years back. Most of the girls will be hanging around close to Margaritaville, but if you walk along the Hip Strip late at night then there are a few standing around all along the street. There are also a few around Burger King, and lots of them when you get up towards Moods. Be careful with them since many of them are skilled pickpockets.

I have used Streetwalkers on a few occasions for a quick blowjob in the bushes to start out the evening, and have paid jamaican 1,000 each time for a BBBJ but not with CIM. If you do this try to have your own spot in mind rather than going to the spot she suggests, and don't leave your wallet in your pants when you drop them...

The streetwalkers range from fat and ugly drug addicts to some girls that are actually quite young and cute with most falling in between. The younger and cuter ones will be up by Margaritaville and Moods, and the uglier ones standing further down the street. Some girls that are "on the street" you will find at Pier 1 on Fridays. I think that Margaritaville and Coral Cliff are a lot more strict about letting girls prowl for customers inside than they used to be, which has pushed some of the girls to hang out around Moods and the street party scene in front of there and Margaritaville.

Don't bring a girl you meet on the street to your hotel room is my advice, since while some of them are nice other ones are thiefs. If you do take her to your hotel, don't have her sleep over.

This is information that really should be in the guide books, but it's not and being transported around Mo'Bay if you don't know this will eat into your mongering budget quickly or you will be doing a lot of walking, so am going to post this even though it has very little to do with mongering except for saving you money.

There is not really a public transport system in Jamaica with buses (and there are no trains on the island), instead there is a system of route taxis. These are cars, most of them are white, older model Toyotas and Hondas and they have maroon license plates (or maybe brownish red is a better way to describe the colour). However, some of them are now newer cars, so if in doubt then ask the driver that he is a route taxi before you get in since some licensed private charter cars also have the maroon plates, this is differentiated by the code on the license plates, but I have not paid much attention to it. (If there are a couple of jamaicans in the car, then it is definitely a route taxi.)

These route taxis drive standard routes at standard prices, and you can flag them down and get in anywhere along the route and get of anywhere you want to along the route. The main route that goes through Mo'Bay starts at taxi central in downtown Mo'Bay, and finishes up by the airport after having gone along the length of the Hip Strip. The price of going this route is 80 jamaican (some drivers will charge 85 jamaican). The price is the same no matter where you get on or get of, so if you get on at for example Margaritaville, and get of at Dr. Cave Beach, it is still 80-85 jamaican. Drivers carry change, but don't expect them to be able to brake a 1,000 or 500 note. Ideally carry coins, or 50 or 100 jamaican notes.

Other people will be in the taxi, and the taxi will stop to pick people up and drop people of along the way.

There are also unlicensed route taxis, these are called "robots" and they charge the same prices as the route taxis. Don't use these until you are pretty experienced. If one stops when you are waiting for your taxi then just wave him on. Once you are more experienced then you can use the robots as well (in the day).

If your destination is a few houndred meters away from the "route" then you can ask the driver to still drive you all the way. This should cost you an additional 20 jamaican. Don't try to negotiate this until you know how the route taxis work by having done it a couple of times, since if the driver sees that you are new to Jamaica then he will try to squeeze more money out of you.

If you want to have the taxi to yourself and go to a specific destination, then this is called a "charter taxi" but it is the same cars. You agree the price with the driver, if you want to go from, for example, Dr. Cave Beach to a specific location downtown then the price will be around 300 jamaican. The driver will try for 5 USD (400 jamaican) but stick to your guns at 300. Also, negotiate through the window before entering the taxi, and don't wait until you reach your destination to agree the fare since then the driver might ask for a ridiculous price and you will face a protracted argument.

Now, if you are not Jamaican, then the driver will try to charge you like you have chartered the taxi and not the regular price. Therefore, when you enter a route taxi, do the following: Flag the taxi down, get in, say nothing. The driver will start driving again along his route once you are seated. If he asks you where you are going, then say either: "this is a route taxi, right" or "this is a regular taxi, right?" Once he confirms that this is the case, then say where you want him to drop you of along the route. If he says no then point out that he has route taxi license plates and he will relent. They will try especially to get you to charter the taxi if no one else is in it, but they will also try this when there are others in the taxi.

When you want the taxi to stop, then you say (loudly) "driver, stop here". If you say "excuse me sir, please stop here" or something like that you will show that you are a green horn. Jamaicans address the taxi driver as "driver", the same way that the person making jerk chicken is "jerk man" or "bone man", the person selling smokes is "ganja man" etc.

Watch who is in the route taxi before getting in, especially at night. If it is a mix of ages and genders, no problem (mon... :), if it is five twenty year old males that look like they are up to no good, then don't get in.

When you are waiting for your taxi then you might be approached by drivers standing nearby offering you a ride, cars might stop and suggest that they give you a ride (even for free, but trust me, it won't be free since you will be expected to give them money for a beer or similar) so just politely decline and say that today you are taking a route taxi. (Remember, Jamaicans will take it as a grave insult if you ignore them or "play deaf", so when I write "ignore" in other parts of this guide that I am putting together it means declining politely but firmly, but also being a bit cold and not engaging in conversation about what/why you aren't doing/buying what they suggest.)

You can take route taxis all around the island once you are very experienced, and this is a very cheap way of being transported around, but by very experienced I mean not only knowing what "bombo'clad" means but being able to act like you live in Jamaica.

If you want someone to drive you around all night, or take you to Negril, Nine Mile, etc then you should get your own driver and not a chartered route taxi driver.

I know that typing in all capital letters means that you are shouting, and I am shouting this:

DO NOT BUY ANYTHING, EVER, FROM A HUSTLER! Also, do not buy anything from people that approach you on the street either.

The reason that it is so important not to get anything from a hustler is that he will go of bragging and tell everyone on the street what he sold you and how much he charged you for it. Therefore, this will multiply the amount of hassle you have to deal with from other hustlers since they know you are a good target over the rest of your trip. In addition, if a hustler "befriends" you, which they try to do, then they will stand around waiting for you outside your hotel, come into restaurants when you are eating, even call your hotel room and be a major pain.

Especially when you have just gotten of the plane, and are walking around town on your first day you will be approached by lots of people offering to hook you up with whatever you need: Ganja, other drugs, girls, driving you around, shopping at craft markets, and so on. They know who is new and who has been around for a while, try to build up some street credibility by dealing with them respectfully, but firmly being clear that you are not buying anything.

Basically, the people on the street that offer you things fall into two categories:

1. Opportunistic touts. Jamaicans that work in stores, drive taxis, etc and are trying to make an extra buck by helping you out. You can't blame them for that, but sadly they will overcharge you massively so don't use their services. Don't be too hard on them, just clarify that you got everything you need. This is the vast majority of the people that will approach you on the street.

2. Hustlers. These are Jamaicans that make a living by harassing tourists and trying to sell them things at massively inflated prices. You will recognize them by their approach being a lot smoother than the opportunistic touts. Steer clear of the hustlers. They are very very good at goading money out of you, they do this all day every day. Keep conversation with them to a minimum, then move on. The hustlers are a minority of the people on the street, and are kept largely in line these days by the security/police that patrol the Hip Strip.

Hustlers are, essentially, scum. They will never take no for an answer, even putting joints (in Jamaica they use the word splif) in your pocket and refusing to take them back and instead demanding money for it. Shaking them takes a while since they are persistent, but keep walking and eventually they drop away. The last thing they will ask you for before they give up, for that time, is money for a beer. Don't give it to them. It might seem a small price to pay to get rid of someone that is a pain, but don't, it will double the amount of hassle you have to deal with next time.

Also, keep in mind that by talking to you each time you pass by they try to develop a "friendship" with you, and after a few days they will try with some sob story that their car is broken, that their kids don't have anything to eat and they need money for that since it's the low season, or whatever story. Don't give them any money, and don't buy anything from them, no matter what. The answer to give is: "I don't have any money".

Also, and very importantly: In many other countries it is ok to ignore people that approach you on the street, or "pretend you are deaf". To a Jamaican being ignored like this is a grave insult, so when approached you need to respond. However, there is no need to stop, and there is no need to go out of your way to talk to someone that shouts "come here" from across the street. Just acknowledge them and keep moving.

Remember, when they ask if this is your first time in Jamaica then you answer: "no". They are not that easy to fool so will follow up and ask when you were last here. If it is your first time, then just reply: "not too long ago", then stop talking about it. Then close the conversation with "respect mon, but am in a rush".

Most Jamaicans are very nice and decent people, and it is a pity that the only interaction with Jamaicans most tourists will have is being bothered by hustlers and touts. If you are being followed by a hustler, some Jamaicans will whisper to you: "Stand up for yourself mon, no one can make you do something you don't want to do". That is a good philosophy for dealing with the hustlers, and generally pushy people all over the world. Believe me, after having dealt with hustlers in Jamaica you will think used car salesmen and estate agents are push overs.

After a few days you won't be bothered as much, assuming that you never buy anything from anyone, but it is generally easier to walk on the ocean side of the hip strip since most touts/hustlers are on the other side.

There are no hustlers in downtown Mo'Bay, because few tourists go there (since there really isn't anything there for the average tourist, for a mongerer it is a great place to find semi-pros, quarter-pros and non-pros).

Now, if you have gotten of the plane and you absolutely must have a spliff and a nice fuck (or two) and aren't too concerned about paying a bit too much this once. Then, still don't use the hustlers and touts, just ask the taxi driver that takes you to your hotel to help you out to find a girl to come to your hotel, and have him pick up some ganja for you too. Don't be embarrased to ask the taxi driver about finding a girl, he will be delighted at the chance to make a bit extra money and won't even flinch at the question. He will be happy to wait outside the hotel while you check in and put your bags in your room, then take you out on a mission to find a girl and ganja.

If the girl is coming for a few hours, then don't pay more than USD 70. This is too much, but the driver will hit the girl up for some of that money in addition to charging you for setting it up. For a nice sized bag of ganja, don't pay him more than USD 5 (this is 10 x the Jamaican price...). Make sure he gets the ganja away from the Hip Strip or the stuff you get will be garbage.

Everything in Jamaica that is imported is freaking expensive, and everything in Jamaica is imported pretty much, so bring everything with you from home.

When I say expensive I mean expensive by non-Jamaican standards, not Jamaican standards. Think 8 USD for a pack of cigarettes, 10 USD for toothpaste, 9 USD for deodorant, and so on. Clothes are expensive too.

Viagra is also expensive, and you are supposed to have a prescription for it also, so bring this as well. (You can get it without a prescription if you walk around and try a few pharmacies downtown if you run out.)

Most other places you go to to monger it don't matter if you forget to pack something, and lots of things are actually cheaper to get when you are on the ground. Not so in Jamaica, make a packing list and double check that you have everything with you.

I recommend the Lonely Planet Guide for Jamaica also. Lonely Planet Guide is crap for quite a few destinations, but the one for Jamaica is actually pretty good for a lot of non-mongering stuff to make your trip better.

Don't know if this is OK to post, but the growing "Mo'Bay Guide" wouldn't be complete without it and it is important information. I have tried to keep it pretty clean by just discussing facts and not encouraging anyone to use these things, or giving specific directions on how to obtain any of these things.

The Stuff Bob Marley Likes (TSBML)

TSBML is not legal in Jamaica, believe it or not. However, I would describe it as pseudo legal. It is not smoked openly on the streets, but you can smoke it on your hotel balcony, in a lot of go gos, on the pier at Pier 1, or if you walk away a bit from the street when outside, etc. Or naturally in your hotel room...

The TSBML that the hustlers and touts sell is crap. The stuff that jamaicans smoke is good.

The Jamaican price for TSBML is also very very cheap. A bag that would cost you USD 10 at home (and you would be very happy to get that much for USD 10) costs 50 Jamaican, which is about 60 cents. Now, in Jamaica there is such a thing as "Jamaican Price" and then there is "Tourist Price"... If on your first trip you can't get "Jamaican Price" then don't throw a fit over it, but try to get as close to it as possible. Best ways to get it is when your driver gets some for himself then ask him to get some for you too and hand him a 100 Jamaican note. Or ask a girl that you are taking back to your hotel to go get some for you before you go up to the room and hand her a 100 Jamaican note. This may or may not work, they will likely come back with "this buys nothing" and give you back the money. Say that you know how much it costs and give them the money again. If you end up paying USD 5 then it's not a big deal I think if it's your first trip. However, be persistent that you know how much it costs and they are overcharging you so you don't look like a push over.

Don't be stupid and bring any home with you on the plane. And also be careful, Jamaicans don't all know that TSBML can get you into a lot of trouble back home. On one trip the girl that had been staying with me for several days was very nice and packed my bags for me, folding my clothes nicely, and... neatly wrapping up the TSBML that was left and putting it in a side pocked of my bag. Pure luck that I looked for it and couldn't find it, and asked her where it was.

Also, remember that the police do arrest token tourists for smoking TSBML on the street, on the beach, or in the open. You will have to have an enormous spat of bad luck to be arrested for this, but it does happen so be a bit careful.

Blue Mountain coffee, some viagra, and a splif is a very nice way to get ready for some great sex. One gives you energy, one gets you rock hard, the third heightens the sensation. :)

The Stuff Tony Montana Likes (TSTML)

Now, you will be offered TSTML on the street with almost the same frequency that you will be offered ganja. Capital letters for emphasis here: THAT IT IS READILY AVAILABLE DOES NOT MEAN THAT TSTML IS PSEUDO LEGAL THE SAME WAY THAT TSBML IS. The police do take TSTML seriously. If you are caught doing TSTML in the bath room of a club, go-go, restaurant, etc it is not unlikely that the police will be called and that you will get arrested. The police are also likely to be called if it's found on you when you get padded down when you enter some clubs.

A stint in a Jamaican jail will ruin your vacation even more than if your mother in law is parked in your room, so steer clear of TSTML.

(If you don't know who Tony Montana is, then google it, and if you can't read between the lines still then you must be very very stupid... :)

Designer substances

These are available, but actually very very expensive compared to home. The police take a hard line on this as well, so steer clear.

One more important point: In Africa, and also in South America, scams are common where the police and sellers, girls, etc collude to entrap you with drugs and then arrest you to extract a bribe from you. I have never heard this happen in Jamaica.

In the section on massage parlours I mention one nice Jamaican place to eat at and give directions to it. Jamaican 350 for a good sized meal.

Pork Pit is good. If you walk past Wexford Hotel and keep going for a while it is on your left. Jamaican 500-1,000 for a good size meal.

Marguerites has a very nice setting to eat a meal at if you take a non-pro out, but it's expensive. Think USD 100 for food and some nice wine. You don't need to take your non-pro girlfriend here to impress her, she will be happy if you take her to Pizza Hut (I am not joking) so if you go here do it for the nice setting next to the water.

Burger King (yes) is actually one of the cheaper options on the Hip Strip.

Loads of restaurants downtown where you can eat for Jamaican 300-400.

You can also get some really nice jerk chicken from the guys that stand around outside Margaritaville with grills on Saturday nights if you get hungry late night. Don't get it other nights since then they are not that busy and it is not that fresh.

Places with overpriced and crap food:

- Bobsleigh Cafe (but great for flirting with the waitresses, although they are not that hot, but just go for a few beers instead of eating there)

- Margaritaville

- The restaurant inside Coral Cliff Casino (but this place too is great for flirting with the waitresses, some are pretty decent looking)

- The Irish Pub (forget the name). (This place has some waitresses that are very hot.)

- The restaurant inside Dr Cave beach. (Although there are a few mongerers that go there with their pro girlfriends from time to time, so if it bothers you to be seen with a pro and you are with one and you are hungry, guess you can go there to blend in a bit.)

Note: Hotness status of waitresses acurate as at 2010...

This would seem like something that should be pretty easy, but like many things in Jamaica it is yet another thing which is designed to take money away from the uninitiated...

I personally also dislike arriving at an airport for the first time in a third world country without knowing what to expect, since you are very vulnerable at this point since you have all your luggage, credit cards, passport, cash, cameras, etc on your person.

Once you are through customs, you will be approached by porters offering to take your luggage, and by ladies asking if you need a taxi. Porters will demand a ridiculous trip for hauling your luggage 80 yards to a taxi, have never tried the transport offered by the ladies but am sure it is expensive, so just keep walking.

There is a stand with a sign that says "official taxi". All these guys do is take you to the driver that gives them the best commission, and not necessarily with the cleanest car, so go past this too.

At this point you will be approached by the JUTA drivers. They have uniforms (reddish pants, white shirts) which they manage to look sloppy in. If it's your first trip, then you might want to consider going with them since they are the absolutely safest and easiest option. They will massively over charge you at USD 10 to USD 15 for the five minute drive to Mo'Bay. They collude not to offer lower prices.

If you walk past the JUTA drivers then you are outside the building but under the roof. Here you will be approached by unlicensed drivers. You can get them to take you into town for 300-400 (about USD 5) Jamaican if you stand around for a while, especially until the crowd of people that are coming of the plane you arrived with thins out. That isn't something you want to do on your first trip.

If it is day time then you can get a route taxi. Either you walk up to the street (it is past the Texaco) and flag one down. The driver will come out of the taxi and put your luggage in the trunk. There is no charge for having luggage in the trunk, but you can't keep it with you since there needs to be room for other passengers. You might want to think of chartering the taxi for 300 jamaican instead of taking it as a route taxi. If you take it as a route taxi then make sure to confirm with the driver that he is a route taxi.

Alternatively you go over to the taxi stop (go right towards the departures area). There is no sign for the taxi stop, but it is the line of white cars. Ask the driver where he is going. (He might not be going to Mo'Bay that's why! Some of the taxis will be going towards Rose Hall and further which is the opposite way!) Try to get into one that is almost full, since otherwise you will have to sit and wait until the taxi fills up since the driver won't leave until it is almost, or very nearly, full.

The cost of the route taxi is the usual Jamaican 80-85, and you naturally can't take a route taxi if your hotel is not on the Hip Strip. Tell the driver in advance where you want him to stop if you don't know where the hotel is, since otherwise you might end up standing at taxi central in down town Mo'Bay with all your luggage which would, well, really suck in the day time, and at night time would be outright dangerous.

The route taxi option is doable at night to, and you can do this without worry, but not for the first time visitor.

Thanks for all the detailed information.

When entering a new country it is always good to have a handle on the logistics and mongering terrain - gives you a level of confidence.

I hope to be back to MoBay again this December, but will be stuck at Rose Hall Resort, which is very difficult situation for mongering. May import a young lovely to join me for the week or if not will get the doorman to bring in some talent. Did not get downtown at all last time. Not much a sex paradise!

GT, what trouble did you have getting ladies into the New Rose Hall?

[QUOTE=Gentleman Travel]Thanks for all the detailed information.

When entering a new country it is always good to have a handle on the logistics and mongering terrain - gives you a level of confidence.

I hope to be back to MoBay again this December, but will be stuck at Rose Hall Resort, which is very difficult situation for mongering. May import a young lovely to join me for the week or if not will get the doorman to bring in some talent. Did not get downtown at all last time. Not much a sex paradise![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Rjsss212]GT, what trouble did you have getting ladies into the New Rose Hall?[/QUOTE] It was more a lack of opportunity. No prospects on site. I was advised that female staff could get fired if they "fratenized" with guests, even if they could be enticed - which was by no means clear. The place is isolated and there is no where nearby to cruise. No lobby girls, or girls hanging out on the beach. I guess you could probably bring in a semi-respectable girl from outside, but I never did get downtown to go shopping, so I don't know for certain. One night I asked the doorman or conceirge about getting girls and he was a bit evasive, but conceded that it might be possible - but then I went out with a mixed group for dinner and could not follow up. So not a good base for any kind of mongering - I was only there because of a conference on-site and had little choice.

[QUOTE=Gentleman Travel]It was more a lack of opportunity. No prospects on site. I was advised that female staff could get fired if they "fratenized" with guests, even if they could be enticed - which was by no means clear. The place is isolated and there is no where nearby to cruise. No lobby girls, or girls hanging out on the beach. .[/QUOTE]

I usually stay at the Ritz or Half Moon. Have you stayed at either and if yes how does Rose Hall compare?

Re lobby girls, Jamaica is not the DR. Nope, not that easy but conversely, unlike the DR you come upon a troublesome female rather infrequently.

I don't know of any escort services in MoBay so from where you were/are staying, with limited knowledge and having to maintain some apparent respectability, it would have cost you a few hundred to bring back anything descent. Having more time and freedom to get downtown will bring the cost down dramatically.

I am a local here in Montego Bay and certainly a far cry from the average street walker. I am very independent, I am employed with a very good educational background. Long and short is I am very attractive both mentally and physically. I understand that you would offer some sort of compensation should we have a sexual encounter but that's not what I am here for, frankly I buy my own shit and need not depend on some foreigner for sex and a meal. I however have never been with a white man and would love to do so out of curiosity.

I'll be here when you get here in December, providing that I find you attractive ;)

Awating your reply.

Hey Fun and Sun: Just want to say, excellent report. I've been to Jamaica nine times and travelled throughout the island and stay away from the tourist locations. You got it right my friend.

[QUOTE=Curiousjam]I am a local here in Montego Bay and certainly a far cry from the average street walker. I am very independent, I am employed with a very good educational background. Long and short is I am very attractive both mentally and physically. I understand that you would offer some sort of compensation should we have a sexual encounter but that's not what I am here for, frankly I buy my own shit and need not depend on some foreigner for sex and a meal. I however have never been with a white man and would love to do so out of curiosity.

I'll be here when you get here in December, providing that I find you attractive ;)

Awating your reply.[/QUOTE]
Hi Curious, that is an interesting offer.
I did not realize there were any Jamaican women lurking here.
When my trip is confirmed we can talk about possibly meeting.
But you cannot receive private messages and we are not permitted to post contact info on the public forum, so we will have to figure out a clever way to communicate.

[QUOTE=Interracial]Hey Fun and Sun: Just want to say, excellent report. I've been to Jamaica nine times and travelled throughout the island and stay away from the tourist locations. You got it right my friend.[/QUOTE]

Hey IR, glad you enjoyed the guide I am putting together. A few more chapters to put together but doing it little by little rather than all in one go, so stay tuned. :)

[QUOTE=Gentleman Travel]Thanks for all the detailed information.

When entering a new country it is always good to have a handle on the logistics and mongering terrain - gives you a level of confidence.

I hope to be back to MoBay again this December, but will be stuck at Rose Hall Resort, which is very difficult situation for mongering. May import a young lovely to join me for the week or if not will get the doorman to bring in some talent. Did not get downtown at all last time. Not much a sex paradise![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Gentleman Travel]It was more a lack of opportunity. No prospects on site. I was advised that female staff could get fired if they "fratenized" with guests, even if they could be enticed - which was by no means clear. The place is isolated and there is no where nearby to cruise. No lobby girls, or girls hanging out on the beach. I guess you could probably bring in a semi-respectable girl from outside, but I never did get downtown to go shopping, so I don't know for certain. One night I asked the doorman or conceirge about getting girls and he was a bit evasive, but conceded that it might be possible - but then I went out with a mixed group for dinner and could not follow up. So not a good base for any kind of mongering - I was only there because of a conference on-site and had little choice.![/QUOTE]

GT,

Good to hear you think the info is useful, Jamaica is a lot of fun but can take a while to figure out how it all works, so am hoping that once the guide is done it will help other mongerers find their feet quickly, because once you know how it all works then it's possible to have some really great experiences there. It is a sex paradise! :) What's particularly cool about Jamaica is that pretty much any woman can be had, not like in other destinations where you can only fish around amongst the pros and semi-pros...

Believe it or not, to be working as a maid or door man at a nice hotel is actually considered a pretty good job in Jamaica, and they're not keen on risking getting fired so if you set your mind on a cute little maid then you will need to get with her outside the hotel. For the same reason the receptionist might not be over helpful in setting things up for you either.

Looks like you already got one lead... :)

Another thing you can do is the following:

Make friends with the night receptionist (easy, give him a few bucks and talk to him a bit) so that he will be cool with you bringing a girl in.

Ask the security guard, or the receptionist, to recommend a driver to take you around at night. Make sure that this is not a driver that is attached to the hotel or he will not be that cool. Don't freak out if the driver that is friends with the receptionist/guard is not licensed, most of them aren't. Have the driver take you around to a local go go or two, maybe a bar or two, and see if you find something interesting. If not, then he will know the numbers of several girls that you can go see together and you can take one of them back to the hotel with you.

After this evening you can just call the driver and tell him to bring girls for you when you don't want to go out at night. If you get along well with the driver he will be able to find some real treasures for you.

Just returned from Mo-Bay after not making the scene for several years. One big difference between then and now is the quality of reports on ISG. Back then only Ford was a dependable source of information. These days "Fun and Sun" has the rites and rituals "nailed".

Before leaving the US I was reassured by Hunteweed's advice to concentrate on the local "non-professionals". That's what I did five or six years ago and it worked out great. Based on his advice and some good ideas from "Fun and Sun" I was holding hands with a really cute "local" about three hours after the plane landed.

We spent the next four nights together, though the first did not include sex. By the second night, however, she was more than ready for anything I had in mind. That, of course, was the full menu.

The only point both "Hunteweed" and "Fun and Sun" do not make is my only reason for adding this report. For me at least, the sex you earn is almost always better than the sex you pay for. My only cost for this girlfriend was dinner and drinks, no different from a date you'd have in college.

[QUOTE=Billy Bobs]Just returned from Mo-Bay after not making the scene for several years. One big difference between then and now is the quality of reports on ISG. Back then only Ford was a dependable source of information. These days "Fun and Sun" has the rites and rituals "nailed".

Before leaving the US I was reassured by Hunteweed's advice to concentrate on the local "non-professionals". That's what I did five or six years ago and it worked out great. Based on his advice and some good ideas from "Fun and Sun" I was holding hands with a really cute "local" about three hours after the plane landed.

We spent the next four nights together, though the first did not include sex. By the second night, however, she was more than ready for anything I had in mind. That, of course, was the full menu.

The only point both "Hunteweed" and "Fun and Sun" do not make is my only reason for adding this report. For me at least, the sex you earn is almost always better than the sex you pay for. My only cost for this girlfriend was dinner and drinks, no different from a date you'd have in college.[/QUOTE]

Hi Billy Bob,

Welcome to the Board, and good to hear you had a fun trip to Jamaica, and I agree with you, the sex you earn is much better than P4P. Haven't written the section on non-pros yet (it will probably be four sections covering what I think are the four categories of girls there: pros, semi-pros, quarter-pros, and non-pros) so stay tuned. :)

Am also planning a section on the topic that is always controversial on every ISG thread: prices...

F & S

In terms of what is safe in Mo'Bay:

You can stroll up and down the Hip Strip to your hearts content at pretty much any time of day and night without worries. However, after around 2-3AM the risk of getting pick pocketed by a street walker goes up massively, so if you are staying far down the Hip Strip and are coming out of, say, Moods, it might be worthwhile to pay the 300 jamaican for a charter taxi back to your place. I am using the term Hip Strip a bit loosely here, denoting the entire area from Toby's all the way up to Pork Pit and the bars beyond Pork Pit.

Downtown Mo'Bay is safe in the day time, at least most of it is as long as you stay in areas where there are lots of people. Pay attention to your surroundings, walk confidently at the same pace that the Jamicans walk (that is, slowly) and you will be fine. Once you are a bit more experienced you can hang out in a lot of areas downtown at night too, but I don't want any of my posts resulting in a green horn getting himself into a dangerous situation so am not going to write anything more about that. If you do a go-go tour/bar tour of down town at night then have a taxi driver take you. You have to cross areas that are not safe walking otherwise, plus you can go to a lot more places that way.

Finding non-pros and quarter-pros in Mo'Bay is easy. In terms of quarter-pros, a lot of the waitresses on the Hip Strip side line, or rather supplement their income, by fucking tourists, so this is worth a try. However, IMHO it is not a good idea to have a girl friend that works on the Hip Strip for two reasons:

1. If you want to do other girls, she will find out. Her work finishes at around 11:30 at night which will interfere with you playing around at night, and also she will find out what you have been up in the day timeto while she was working. Mo'Bay is not that big of a town...

2. If you don't want to do other girls, do you really want to have a "girlfriend" that fucks other tourists...

So, if you want a non-pro Jamaican girlfriend, then head to down town Mo'Bay, whether you are planning to do other girls or not...

When you first get down town, you will feel that it is very crowded and that it is difficult to get a girl's attention. Don't despair, walk around for a while and then you will find some good prospects.

You will not believe this, but most girls are happy to talk to you if you approach them smoothly on the street. It is not like back home, they are more than happy to talk to you, and most of them will give you their cell phone numbers no problem. Just don't ask sleazy, start a conversation, get the girl's number, and then move on.

Go into stores, look around a bit, go to the shopping mall, and so on. Smile at lots of girls, even if she is in a group of girls, and if she smiles back then try to strike up a conversation. Act cool, ask for directions, ask for the time, or whatever, then tell her that you think that she is pretty and ask for her number. Or even, give her your number, unlike girls in the US/Europe they will actually call you if you give them your number. (As a matter of fact, you will probably find five missed calls from her when you look at your phone after an hour.)

I cannot emphasize enough how easy it is to find a non-pro girl in down town Mo'Bay, no matter what your looks are... Also, this applies even if you are black or if you are white. If you are, say, a black American male then it is still obvious to a Jamaican that you are not from Jamaica from how you walk, talk, dress, etc.

Be a bit careful though. The pros and semipros are also in downtown Mo'Bay when they are not working, and you don't want your hunt for a non-pro to result in you getting together with a pro. How to guard against this, find girls where they are working (stores, restaurants, and so on).

If you are planning to stay in Mo'Bay for more than a few days, and if you are planning to have several girls rather than staying with the same girl for most/all of your trip then finding a good driver is absolutely key to make your trip as much fun as it can possibly be.

You need a reliable driver to:

1. Take you to places away from the Hip Strip since you will want to see more places than that if you are in town for more than a few days (for example, a tour of local go-gos at night, going around the countryside in the day time to check for girls)

2. Introduce you to girls. Once you have known him for two days, but don't ask him before then, you can also ask him to introduce you to girls from the countryside which is a good way to meet girls that are not on the pro/semi-pro scene that you can enjoy a few hours of fun with. (Remember that he will charge you for picking them up, and also charge them a commission for having set it up when he drives them home, but that is just the way it works.)

3. A good driver can also be a helpful ally in sourcing party supplies for you if you don't have your own ganja man yet.

4. If you want to go around and check out different places on the island it is much easier and convenient to go with a driver than try to join an organised tour.

You don't want a route taxi driver to be "your driver" since their cars are really uncomfortable.

Finding a good driver in Mo'Bay is not that hard. They all stand around the Hip Strip in the day time trying to find clients. Just walk around, talk to a few of them and see how you get along. Ask to see their cars, you don't want one with an old uncomfortable car that is likely to break down, and that stinks of ganja, so find a driver with a nice, almost new car, that seems sober and cool.

Try to find a driver in his mid-30s, since the younger ones have a short term view and try to squeeze money out of you as much as they can, and the older ones are a bit boring and are not likely to know as many places and as many girls.

In terms of costs, having a driver take you around all night will cost you between USD 30-50. The lower end of the range if he hasn't done much driving but mostly waited, if he has driven you back and forth all night then it is on the higher end of the range.

For a driver to deliver a girl to you and take her home afterwards should cost you USD 10-30, invariably he will claim that he had to go really far to find her, but take these claims with a pinch of salt...

If you want to check out some of the many sights around the island, then make a little plan of what you want to see. One thing or many things, and then negotiate a rate with the driver. It costs USD 150 to go from Mo'Bay to Kingston and back, which is pretty much going all the way across the island, so that is the maximum you should pay to be driven around all day, and that includes the price of gas. Going to Ocho Rios should cost around USD 50. Going to Nine Mile should cost around USD 100. Going to Negril should cost you around USD 50. Spending the whole day driving around to lots of sights should cost you around USD 150.

If you are going sightseeing, the driver will come get you on the agreed time, this is actually one of the few things that happens on time in Jamaica. If you are going for a longer tour then he will need to get some gas first, this is normal since they never have that much gas in their cars, but this is deducted from the price you have negotiated, it is not an extra. Pay the driver the remainder of the agreed fare when you get back. Invariably they will complain a bit when you are on your way back that it took a long time to drive around and you should pay a bit more, or give a tip, but don't cave in.

If a driver takes you to one or several go-gos, then he will come in with you, he wants to watch the girls too... :) However, remember that the driver gets to come in for free at a Jamaican go-go, don't be suckered into paying an extra entrance for him. Ask him if he wants a beer when you get one for yourself, and if you spend a long time there then get him a second beer, be cool but not a pushover when it comes to this. Don't pay for his lapdances or similar, if he wants that then he should pay for that himself.

Don't worry about making your driver wait for you while you are at a tourist site, massage parlour, or whatever. They expect to do this and there is no need to rush anything since the driver is waiting for you.

Generally be nice and cool to your driver, but don't be a pushover. You want to use the same driver for your whole trip since then you can trust him more, and he is more likely to introduce you to the best girls he knows and show you cool places around town.

A good driver will look out for you, and will alert you if a dangerous situation is developing, and will also try to intervene if you get yourself into trouble, but you can't expect them to catch a bullet for you. However, see my post about crime and safety why Jamaica is actually a lot safer (for tourists) than its reputation and unless you do something stupid and go looking for trouble, it is rare that trouble comes looking for you.

I usually go to Mobay every year, especially at sumfest time.

I have an old post (and name) from 8/07 if you want to read. Same name as this one, but without the number 14.

This is my observation of the women on the island.

You can pretty much get a lot of free play unless you are ugly or just too shy to talk, and that is what p4p is for.

One thing I learned is that people like people from other places. One time I tried to talk to these two beautiful women from the states in the buffet line and they only wanted to meet the cook, because he was "exotic" to them.

Same with the Jamaican women. Now the women take a little more patience. The thing is to talk to them (for hours), make them feel relaxedabout you.

Trust me, if they give you the time, they will eventually give you the pussy.

I have gone right up to a female at reception and ASKED if she has any friends that would spend some time with me, since I don't know my way around. She was so shocked (that I wanted to talk to a Jamaican woman) and very happy. They are under the impression that the black men want white women. (well, I do, but I want anyone who is cute).

One of my favorite hangouts is the Coral Cliffs. I asked a girl there to introduce me to someone who is single and she did it easily. Just act friendly,

Not desperate for someone, don't get upset if she acts like she doesn't know anyone-she does, just keep working on her with small talk.

I did go to rejuv as in my old report. I don't have a problem with p4p. Its a good backup if you strike out that day. Tomorrow is another day also.

Mongering p4p is like fishing to me. I go out to the lake for the day, if I didn't catch any fish, I just stop at the supermarket on my way home!

Last year, I was standing in front of M'ville and I saw this woman across the street at the Cliff who looked like Chaka Khan. I went over to hookup with

Her and found out she was a SW. She had big nips, which I love so I had to do her. As, we were walking to my hotel (the Wex) her friend walked up and

Asked if she could join-hell yeah.

I had to pay some damn chica fee. They call it a visitors fee or something. We had a good time, sorry, I don't remember the price but I know it was way cheaper than what I would pay here in Las Vegas.

Guys, just go, do things (and say things) that you would probably never do at home. Nobody knows you and you will be gone. I think a woman likes

An aggressive (in the way of speaking up) kind of man.

I will be going this December, I will write a report on my venture. I didn't go in July for the sumfest because I couldn't get a room at the Wexford, but maybe that was a good thing because the reviews said it was "fair" and it rained! I don't go to the concerts, I just like going during that time of the year because its busy with tourists.

[QUOTE=Thaijuan14]
You can pretty much get a lot of free play unless you are ugly or just too shy to talk, and that is what p4p is for.

Guys, just go, do things (and say things) that you would probably never do at home. Nobody knows you and you will be gone. I think a woman likes

An aggressive (in the way of speaking up) kind of man.

[/QUOTE]

These two quotes from you sum up how to approach the non-pros really well Juan. You gotta take the first step with them, but whereas most girls back home would walk away if you approached her and asked her some silly pick up line the girls in Mo'Bay will actually smile and respond to you.

Have posted about Moods before, but want to write a detailed report on it since it is by far the best go-go in Mo'bay.

Moods is the biggest go-go in Mo'bay and is a really nice club, but not a good as Scrub-a-dub in Negril. It is located pretty close to the end of the Hip Strip, right next to Wexford on the opposite side from Margaritaville. There is a sign painted on the green building that says Extatic, but everyone still calls it Moods, most locals won't even know what you mean if you mention Extatic. See the attached photo (sorry for the quality, but it was raining, which shows the green building) for location.

When approaching Moods you will be approached by a virtual army of hustlers offering you ganja, girls, and so on. Keep walking to the entrance, and don't let anyone walk up with you, just say that you are going to Moods and that you can find it yourself.

Entrance is 300 Jamaican. On the board it says that tourist entrance is 5 USD (i.e. 400 Jamaican) don't pay that price, just hand the guy at the door 300 Jamaican and leave it at that.

There is pretty much something happening at Moods every night of the week. The girls are supposed to clock in for work at around 7:30 and the club is supposed to open at 9:30, but opening time is flexible and there generally is no point to show up before 11:30 to midnight.

I would say that Moods has about twenty girls. Most of them are pretty tall with nice and thick bodies, not fat, but with nice big asses and thick built. There are also a couple of girls that are really tall, and a few short and skinny ones to make up the balance. At any time there are about four or five girls on stage doing some really sexy dancing, showing of their pussies, fondling each other. The other girls will roam around the club or hang out in the changing room.

What I like about Moods is that you don't really get hassled in there. Sure, girls will approach you and strike up a conversation, but they aren't pushy about it. Any dancer is available for take out, but much easier to get their numbers. Management has no problem with this, you can even ask the (female) bartender for a pen!

Semi-pro girls come to Moods, particularly on Saturday nights when there is a freaky show (a freaky show is when a girl goes on stage and fucks and sucks). Supposed to start at around 2-3AM, usually doesn't happen until 4AM. A few street walkers also invest the 300 Jamaican on Saturday nights to come in there to try to drum up business.

The crowd is mostly Jamaican males, with a few tourists in the mix. Music is all Jamaican, porno movies play on little TVs hanging from the ceiling.

There are several rooms available at Moods if you want to do one of the strippers. Management will start their bidding at USD 50 for a room, but fight them down to around USD 20. Don't accept them giving you the little room with only a chair and a curtain that is next to the girl's dressing room, demand a room with a bed in it.

In terms of lay out, it is a pretty large club with a big stage in the middle of the room along one of the walls. Along the opposite wall there is a bar, and another bar alongside one of the side walls, and there are a few places to sit and loads of places to stand. Don't sit at the bar unless you are shy and want to be approached by the dancers. Another reason not to sit at the bar is that as the club fills up your view will be blocked. Grab a table or one of the wooden sofas close to the stage instead.

If you sit right next to the stage the girls will come close and perform a little show just for you, they might also give you a nice sexy lap dance, let you fondle them, let you finger them, etc. You should tip them for this, but make them work a little until you give them 100 Jamaican.

Some more musings:

There are a couple of pretty nice bars next to Moods where you can hang out and have a drink.

There are also loads of street walkers that gather in front of Moods from the stairs and up by the bars.

I just wanted to add some things about Mobay. Its best to always use Ja dollars when doing any business. If someone tells you something is x amount in US dollars, tell them you only have Ja dollars and get the atmosphere back to life on the island, don't give that foreigner feel by using foreigner dollars.

All the hotels use wrist bands as a control device. This is good, because you would not want just anyone walking off the street and roaming around your hotel looking for opportunity.

Last year when I stayed at the Wex, the lady just handed me the wrist band to put on myself. That was cool, because I didn't put it on, I made a simple tie to hold it on until I passed the front desk.

You don't want to be walking around the island with these florescent wrist bands, looking like a tourist a mile away. I think this time I go, I will look at the receptionist with my big brown eyes and ask her if I can put it on myself. Note: hide the band under your watch.

As said in other reports, Jamaica can be dangerous but mainly in the Kingston area. I think the tourist police do a good job making you feel at home-on the hip strip area.

I go to downtown and hang out with the greatest of ease. Its bustling with hot Jamaican women and girl watching in of itself is fun. I do most of my mongering right on the strip. I have only been to Jamaica one time that M'ville was happening and that was in April during spring break.

I have stayed at the Glou and El Grecko. I like the Wex because of its location-hop, skip and jump to moods, pork pit, M'ville and the Cliff. I had a room at the Grecko where the room was right above the sidewalk. It was cool sitting outside during the day, people watching, but night was bad because of traffic noise, you know how Ja's like honking their horns!

The Glou was good for breakfast and a free pass to Dr Caves beach. The downside was the very hot (and slow) elevator you had to take to get down to the strip. Its a very old elevator that actually belongs to a condo, but they have an agreement to allow Glou guests to use it.

The biggest factor of the Wex over the Grecko and Glou is the a/c unit. The Wex has a modern, state of the art, digital unit that is very quiet. The other two hotels (when I stayed there at least) had very noisy a/c units. The fan blade kept hitting something, thus giving me a headache by the morning. If U-turned it off, you would burn up in minutes.

The units didn't have a thermostat, so it was freezing cold or nothing. They are ideal during the day, but pretty bad when you want to sleep.

I didn't have any problems when I took two women to my room, but I did have to pay for both of them! Since I didn't know that I was going to pick up some women when I left, I made the women stay out in the hallway while I locked up my money (and took a shower). At first, they weren't happy saying they are not like that. I work in a casino in vegas, TRUST NO ONE! Don't be afraid to offend in the name of protecting your valuables. Don't worry, by the end of the night, I had satisfied both of them and they totally got over it.

Sorry, on my last post, I meant to say "all the hotels that I have stayed at" use wrist bands, not all the hotels in Jamaica.

Also, I think I got the hotels mixed up, as far as, who uses the elevator. Its been a long time since I have stayed at those hotels, so on my next trip, I can report which one it is.

[QUOTE=Thaijuan14]I just wanted to add some things about Mobay. Its best to always use Ja dollars when doing any business. If someone tells you something is x amount in US dollars, tell them you only have Ja dollars and get the atmosphere back to life on the island, don't give that foreigner feel by using foreigner dollars.

All the hotels use wrist bands as a control device. This is good, because you would not want just anyone walking off the street and roaming around your hotel looking for opportunity.

Last year when I stayed at the Wex, the lady just handed me the wrist band to put on myself. That was cool, because I didn't put it on, I made a simple tie to hold it on until I passed the front desk.

You don't want to be walking around the island with these florescent wrist bands, looking like a tourist a mile away. I think this time I go, I will look at the receptionist with my big brown eyes and ask her if I can put it on myself. Note: hide the band under your watch.

Sorry, on my last post, I meant to say "all the hotels that I have stayed at" use wrist bands, not all the hotels in Jamaica.

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Juan,

You are spot on about not wearing one of the wrist bands that some of the hotels try to get you to wear. It not only marks you as a tourist, it also let's everyone know which hotel you are staying at, and these wrist bands are the hallmark of the second dumbest category of tourist, the ones that stay in all inclusives (the wrist band is what gets you your free drinks and food at the all inclusives). The dumbest tourists are the cruise ship ones. (Maybe naive is a better word than dumb, come to think of it.)

If you are staying at a hotel that tries to make you wear a wrist band even if you are not on an all inclusive package then flatly refuse. Carry it in your pocket instead.

Note: If you have a local GF and you are checking her into your hotel for a few days, they will make her wear a wrist band (so that you can't switch girls without paying any potential extra person charges) and getting them to budge on this is impossible in my experience.

Speaking of all inclusive hotels, F&S reminded me of an experience at an all inclusive hotel.

One year , I was staying at the Wex and my sister just happened to go a couple of days after me. She stayed at the Holiday Inn Sunspree, an all inclusive. She stayed there, because she is lazy to find food.

Well, my mother lives in Trelawny and my sister was hosting her. I decided to stay one night (even though I already paid for my hotel), it was just more convenient because of how far apart these two hotels are.

I decided to pay for my one night with my credit card, so as to keep more cash on hand. I don't like using a credit card anywhere,especially in a foreign country.

I found out from my bank when I got home, that someone was trying to charge something (twice) to my account after I had used it to get a room. They rejected it. I was lucky, I had switched to Bank of America from a local bank not too long ago.

BofA keeps a watch on your card 24/7 because they are such a large corporation, whereas, my local bank would have been closed during the transaction and they would have okayed it. I would have had to go through the hassle of disputing the charges.

At Holiday Inn, they give you one color wristband if you paid to eat all you want and another if you want to pay as you go. It was kind of cool to walk around and say I want that and I want to drink that and not have to dig into your pocket every time.

I did not think it was a good place to monger at all. There were loads of women tourist, but you were going to have to be a smooth person to get anyone.

I have an advantage over other mongers from the states, besides being good looking :) my mother lives there. Once I say that to these women, panties start melting. I am especially dangerous when I walk around with her. They have such respect for their elders (and a lot of admiration for me taking care of her).

[QUOTE=Thaijuan14]Sorry, on my last post, I meant to say "all the hotels that I have stayed at" use wrist bands, not all the hotels in Jamaica.

Also, I think I got the hotels mixed up, as far as, who uses the elevator. Its been a long time since I have stayed at those hotels, so on my next trip, I can report which one it is.[/QUOTE]

The El Greco is the one with the elevator. Gloustershire has been closed for a few years. It was bought by the company that owns the Sunset Beach Resort. It was supposed to be remodeled and open more than a year ago...but it is Jamaica. Soon come...but now looking like no come.

I'll be in Mobay and Ochi in a few weeks. If anyone is around, hit me up.

pogo

I have stayed at the Hi Sunspree several times for business many Jamaican girls stay at this property for vacation? Or biz both times I tried, I was able to hook up with pro's who were staying at the resort, both times I paid 30 for pro half and half service.

Kind of fun as I got to do 1 in front of the other, both times

And the bar maid under the sailboat lobby bar offered but not on the property, wasnt into a risky trip to the slums for some kitty

Here was my hint, both times I scored the girls were in a pair they were all over the property, probably gacked and as I was scooping them 1 asked me if I wanted to buy weed which I used as the icebreaker(I don't smoke), got to their room and once inside I asked if they knew any ladies that might be hog hunting 25 min later I was wiping up.

Not only is it possible there, I think they rent a room there for the specific reason of dealing smoke and tending to male tourists yes I know its tough approaching them wondering if your radar is working well but as frequent visitors to Jamaica know Kingston girls are loud, want to party and are very difficult to confuse with 2 girls from the Us

I'm going back in a few weeks for work with co-workers but unsure if I'll be able to monger this trip. Hope so.

Hey CuriousJam.

Saw your post and inevitably I will be seeking an aquaintence whilst in MoBay on business during the first week of Dec 2010.

I'm not trying to ply you with a dinner offer, however as a human I will be needing to eat while on island and it is always pleasurable for me to spend dinner with a beautiful, educated lady. So consider it.

And if you are so inclined it would be very nice assist you in your quest to

Test drive the white one

Please advise

I guess that the guide would not be complete without covering Margaritaville in it, so here goes...

Margaritaville used to be a really cool place. It was always a tourist trap, but at night it would be a pretty good club frequented by quite a selection of pros. I have not followed every turn of the story, but I think that originally Margaritaville was not controlled by Jimmy Buffet but after lots of legal turns it ended up in his empire and there are now Margaritavilles on other Carribean islands as well as in the US. I think that this is what has led to the need for the Mo'Bay Margaritaville to get cleaned up quite a lot and I don't think that they allow the pros and semi-pros in any longer, or at least they make them be much much more discrete. I very rarely head to Margaritaville any more, maybe if I am with a girl and it is Saturday night I might go there with her to drink and dance, but I don't go there to look for babes.

Margaritaville is a mid-sized club. It seems to be pretty much open all the time. In the day time people go there and drink and ride the water slides. In the night time things sort of start to get going around 10, and get good at around midnight. The entrance per person is 500 Jamaican, and a beer is 350 Jamaican, which is a rip-off. Service is pretty fast.

The club has two floors, a large bar on the bottom floor and then a large dance area. Local middle class girls and loads of tourists make up the crowd. The top floor is open air and the music there is a bit less loud and it's a good place to go to cool down after having danced for a while.

I find it difficult to hit on the non-pros at Margaritaville. It is very loud so it is difficult to talk, and also I think the Jamaican girls that do go there are a bit less friendly than the ones that are in town.

It is always a few people there on every day of the week, so if you are part of a group or with a girl and feel like drinking and dancing then by all means head there, but it is not that much fun if you go by yourself.

Coral Cliff Casino is the big casino that is located opposite Margaritaville. There used to be a few pros hanging around there, but they seem to be stricter about who they let in nowadays.

Coral Cliff is an allright place to hang out. They usually have a live band, and sometimes they have karaoke. Music is not that loud so you can have a conversation without shouting. A few of the waitresses are pretty hot and like to flirt with you if you are there by yourself. Drinks are nice but a bit expensive. Food isn't all that good and is also expensive.

In terms of the casino itself, the one armed bandits are set to very low pay out rates and the other games also have very low payouts, so you burn through money quickly if you gamble.

For some odd reason Jamaican girls love going to Coral Cliff, and you will quickly burn through money to pay for her gambling, so avoid taking a girl there unless it is to watch the band playing and not to gamble.

Just outside Coral Cliff (in front of the stairs) there is a guy called Clinton that sells beer, drinks, and cigarettes. He sells these things out of a cooler in the back of his car, and sits on a little chair next to it. A beer costs 200 Jamaican from him, and if you want to you can sit there and drink a few beers and see what interesting things pass by. Having a seat and drinking a beer like that will add massively to your street credibility since that is what Jamaicans do but no tourist does it, but don't buy a beer for anyone that asks you for one. Clinton is usually on post from around eight in the evening. Lots of people come by his store (it's called a "store" even though he is just selling things out of the trunk of his car) to get a beer or a few cigarettes. When getting a beer here, or from other people with coolers on the street, specify that you want a cold one or you will get one that is not that cold. I don't know why that is so, but that is just how it is.

[QUOTE=Thaijuan14]
All the hotels use wrist bands as a control device. This is good, because you would not want just anyone walking off the street and roaming around your hotel looking for opportunity.

Last year when I stayed at the Wex, the lady just handed me the wrist band to put on myself. That was cool, because I didn't put it on, I made a simple tie to hold it on until I passed the front desk.

You don't want to be walking around the island with these florescent wrist bands, looking like a tourist a mile away. I think this time I go, I will look at the receptionist with my big brown eyes and ask her if I can put it on myself. Note: hide the band under your watch.
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LOL, just noticed this little picture. In case anyone wants to know how one of the wrist bands look like... ;) Try not to get distracted by the other stuff in the picture.

I need wifi to stay in touch with back home, as my girl thinks I will be in Atlanta lol.

[QUOTE=Ladanian]I need wifi to stay in touch with back home, as my girl thinks I will be in Atlanta lol.[/QUOTE]The Wexford does not have WiFi. They have an internet station in the lobby that is free-when I stayed there.

Be careful of your e-mail IP address. If your girl is not trusting or tech savvy, she can see where the mail was sent from.

[QUOTE=Ladanian]I need wifi to stay in touch with back home, as my girl thinks I will be in Atlanta lol.[/QUOTE]

Don't think that Wexford does, but you can use the internet on the computers in the reception area. Toby's claims to have Wifi working in the reception area, but would not trust that to be reliable...

There are lots of internet cafes on the Hip Strip (expensive at 200 Jamaican for 15 mins). I usually access the internet from Jolly Rogers/Buccaneers. There the waitresses are too lazy to keep track of how long you use the computers so they always charge for 15 mins. There are a few internet cafes downtown also (cheaper, but most with antiquated computers).

The last few times I stayed at the Wexford there was wi-fi in the lobby for free. It worked on the terrace for breakfast as well.

Drs Cave Beach hotel has wi-fi in most areas as well. Not a bad place for the price, about he same as the Wexford.

pogo
[QUOTE=Fun And Sun]Don't think that Wexford does, but you can use the internet on the computers in the reception area. Toby's claims to have Wifi working in the reception area, but would not trust that to be reliable...

There are lots of internet cafes on the Hip Strip (expensive at 200 Jamaican for 15 mins). I usually access the internet from Jolly Rogers/Buccaneers. There the waitresses are too lazy to keep track of how long you use the computers so they always charge for 15 mins. There are a few internet cafes downtown also (cheaper, but most with antiquated computers).[/QUOTE]

spent some time here not too long ago.

for party, go to:
margaritaville - thursday nights - great crowd. friday nights (at least when we went), it wasn't even open.

pier one - friday nights - great crowd, best party I had out there.

some outdoor spot down the road from margaritavilla - saturday nights, really good tunes and crowd. party wasn't too crazy, more a gunman attitude out here but i didn't see any issues break out.

for girls, went to two strip clubs, one down the block from the wexford, forget the name. the other is called exodus. both were pretty good. girls wanted $30-40

I just called the Wexford to confirm my reservation, they do have Wifi, their website confused me with "internet advantage" as they put it.

I really don't have anything planned other than going with the flow.
I do plan to go to Moods on saturday to see the sex show, if any members want to meet up then.

This is a side trip for me, so everything is new and I am not really putting a lot of effort into this trip. My big trip is to bkk in feb., I just couldn't wait that long to get out of town.

What I mean by new is that I usually go during the summer (july). I just chose the first weekend in december and it was good, because hurricane season is finish and its right before high season. I was actually surprised that the Wexford had rooms when I checked online.

I was thinking of where to go this time of the year-I hate the cold and there wasn't many places to go, but south somewhere.

I bought a camera, but it really was for bkk. I will bring it on this trip. I never bring a camera when I travel anywhere, I don't want to look like a tourist.

This camera is so thin (had to practice holding the damn thing) but I like the way I can put it in my pocket and be inconspicuous. It came with a carrying case that looks just like one of those mobile phone carrying case,I like that.

[QUOTE=Thaijuan14]I just chose the first weekend in december and it was good, because hurricane season is finish and its right before high season. I was actually surprised that the Wexford had rooms when I checked online.
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Hope you had a cool trip TJ. Does Wexford still employ that loser night receptionist that wears sun glasses at night? :)

I just got back from Mobay and all I can say is how soon can I get back. This is a true mongers.

Paradise. What makes Mobay so cool is that there is so much freeplay!

I didn't do anything on Friday, but drink and try to feel out the place. I couldn't understand why the

Strip was so dead? There were more tourist police than tourist! I would soon find out why.

On Saturday, I decided to go to Moods. I was standing outside of the Wex, by the sidewalk, it.

Was early, maybe 5pm. This really cute girl starts walking my way. I just stared at her and she.

Was looking at me. I decided to get one last look when she passed. I saw that she looked back.

At me, so I waved her to come back, bingo!

I started talking to her and I asked her to go to the Cliff with me to have a drink. I ordered a

Draft and she ordered a ting. I was like, what is a ting? When he brought it to her, I remembered.

It was a soda! Anyways, we talked for 3 hours. I let her get all of her frustration out and I got to.

Understand the feelings of women there.

Let me tell you guys who plan to go there. The Jamaican men treat their women with a lot of

Disrespect, I heard that complaint time after time. You can easily get freeplay just by being nice.

I think they expect us to be nicer and would be surprised if we were disrespectful. This girl was

Telling me she just couldn't find a good man.

I told her I wanted to go to Moods that night and if she would go with me because I was not.

Comfortable being by myself. This is true, I really don't frequent strip clubs because of the

"elements" but I really wanted to see the sex show.

We went in about 11:30pm. I can't believe I have been staying at the Wex for the last 5 years.

And didn't know that club was right next door! They had 3 flat screen tv's with porn on.

Man, talking about the finest Jamaican women, a lot of them were in there! Some of the.

Girls were walking around in bikinis and they had the top pulled to the side to expose their.

Breasts.

They had 4 dancers. This was weird, only one girl was naked (she was my kind-slim) the.

Other three kept their clothes on and danced? The sex show doesn't start until 2am and I am

Thinking I can't sit here for 2 hours. I turned to my girl and said the porn was making me horny.

It was making me horny, she turned to me and asked me if I wanted to have sex.

She said she was getting bored as well. She wanted to go to her house which was about.

Ja500 by taxi. If I went to my room, the Wex would have charged me $40, about $35 difference.

I must say this, the bellman told me you can bring guests in for free from 6am to 6pm!

We went to her house and it was okay. She had saggy breast which I hate. I like be cup.

And tight breasts. At least she had a clean pussy, especially for how long she had been

Out.

We went back to the club and it was about 20 minutes until the show. I was lucky that

Night, it was a lesbian show! I heard they have couples and even a midget but I love.

Lesbians. There was three, all good looking. It was very interesting.

I will post another report because I don't want long posts.

On Saturday, during the day, I was talking to the bellman, his name is Cary. I have known him for.

5 years. I was asking him about Moods, trying to get some strategy. He told me it cost Ja200.

But when I went with my girl, I was charged Ja400 and she was charged Ja300.

Okay, thats about $2 difference, I was not going to make a scene for $2, plus it makes you.

Look like a cheap ass. I know they were treating me like a tourist, squeezing what they could.

For some reason, I have never asked Cary for a girl, but this time I did. I didn't expect to meet.

Anyone that night. So he looks at me surprised and says, you want a woman? He pulls out his.

Phone and says I have this german born girl. She couldn't come over on Sunday but she could.

Come on Monday.

Well, I had plans to visit my moms in Trelawny and I was not sure when I would get back. He.

Called another girl (Nikita) and she could come over on Sunday. Cary told me 5pm.

Sure enough, he was at my room at 5pm, hand delivered. She had the body I like. I like them.

Slim, small breast. She is 19! She was nice but she has a lot to learn. I mean in the way of

Life. Talking to her was weird, I had to keep it to hair and fashion.

If you go to the Wex, look up my boy, Cary. I gave the girl taxi fare and that was that

Okay, I just finished kicking it with a 19 year old, I am feeling good. I am just standing at the

Sidewalk after getting her a taxi. This taxi driver (I am near the driveway of moods) comes over.

To solicit me. Normally I am sending them away but he says something that gets me talking to him.

I asked him about rejuvenation. He says its no good and he has some place better. Yeah, some.

Place that will give a kickback better! He hands me this card. Here is the link:

[url]http://www.x-quiz-it-bodyworks.com/facilities.php[/url]

He tells me he can take me there on Monday if I want. Well, I thought I should go, so I can report.

Back for you guys. I tell him I am going to Trelawny and I should be back by 4pm.

The next day, I meet him at 4pm. He said this place is Downtown, well, we didn't go Downtown.

We went to Top road. I don't know why he didn't take me to X-Quiz-it but I will have to go next trip.

The place he took me to was like Deja Vu when I stepped inside. The business card says this:

Montego Bay Ocaen View Massage Centre.

19 Queens Drive.

Mobay, St, James.

(876) 940-7417.

Man, I swear that is the old rejuvenation but the driver and the girl I was with said it wasn't.

I meant to ask some drivers my last day there if this was true or not but I forgot. I really want.

To know and I will find out on my next trip.

They had the same menu! And in english prices. I went for the cheapest offer, a thai massage.

You get a massage and a yank. This gets you in the door so you can negotiate with the girl.

On the menu, they had a 3some they call a double dutch. They also have escort were you.

Pay $150 to take her off property for 6 hours.

So they wanted $40 for the thai massage, I told the mamasan I only have Ja dollars.

She charges me $35 in Ja dollars.

Okay, here's the good part, the girls come out, I see Sereca, she's the 3rd. I already made

Up my mind as soon as I saw her. Exactly how I like them. We get back to the room and.

We hit it off.

She gives me a nice massage and asks me what I want. Hey, I am almost 50 (49) , by this.

Time, I am down on sperm count, need more time to recover so I tell her DATY and she can

Just give me a yank.

I turned her out, she came hard. I didn't think of it but I should have checked for her juices.

I love that. When she came, she put her hand out as to keep me away for a minute, I guess.

Because of the sensitivity, she really enjoyed that and that made my day.

She jerked me off while I held her precious breast, really nice. She asked if I wanted to

Shower with her, I told her no since I was going back to the hotel. While I was putting.

On my clothes she asked for my phone number?

I reminded her I lived in Las Vegas but she said she knew but wanted my number. That.

Was a first. I have had women pass me their number (on their own) because they liked me.

And wanted to do business again, but no one has asked me for my number.

We exchanged phone numbers, e-mail addresses and she wrote her real name down.

I wrote her a letter, I will see where this goes. I am not trying to have a relationship and.

She knows but it would be cool to hookup when I come to town.

They have 11 girls working of which 3 were on escorts. The driver said the girls beg him to.

Bring them business. I think the girls would suck my dick just to get me to pick them.

You can see the desperation in them. One girl shied away when I went to shake her hand.

I asked the driver why she did that and he said they hate to get rejected and I guess she.

Knew I wasn't going to choose her. I think she knew who I had my eyes on.

Okay, last post.

I was wondering what has happened to the "Hip Strip" from 5 years ago. The hotel, Breezes, was.

Closed, that was a big resort on the strip. When I arrived, there must have been a thousand

People waiting for Immg, it took 40 minutes alone! Where is everybody?

I found out on the ride to Trelawny. The driver was pointing out the many "Mega resorts"

That they have built away from the strip. They are nice! Its what the american tourist wants.

They are all-inclusive, you don't have the street people, the amenities are there.

I use expedia and the people reviewed the Wexford a two star. You know, they are right.

The Wexford is not up to my standards, but its the strategic location. I am a Marriott kind.

Of guy. I would rate the Wex a 4 star for us mongers! I paid $70 which was unheard of in the.

Old days, you could not get it for under a $100. Changing times, everything has shifted to

Another area.

The Wex still has mechanical keys! They have the old style 19 inch tv, (good cable) , there.

Are a lot more things to say about the Wex and how outdated they are. I wanted to clear up.

The wifi thing. The bellman told me they do not have wifi in the main or original building, They.

Are building an extension behind the main building that is all suites (too late).

There will be 23 suites (7 are open now) and they have wifi. They gave me a room top floor.

And oceanview (for me sidewalk view, hehe). The suites do not have a view!

My last day there, I woke up with a really bad neck ache. Terrible bed and terrible pillows!

I went to this legitimate (I think) spa called Shelly's. I got the neck and should treatment.

For $20/15min. I was treated by shelly herself.

When I go back, I am going back to her, I think I can get something more (doesn't hurt.

To try?). She did this one move where I was on my back-looking up, and she stretches.

Over my face and her blouse just goes over my face exposing her breast-bra on. I think.

She was massaging my arms, but she did it 3 times. I think she wanted to see if I would.

Get hard. I didn't get a hard-on because I went in there no expecting anything.

She actually kept me in there 25 minutes! She asked a question about my wife and I.

Told her I wasn't married, I think she was feeling me out. I would do her in a minute.

This is the way Jamaica is, opportunity at every corner.

Shelly's info is as follows:

Shelly's Day Spa & Beauty Salon.

Mable ewin Drive (across from Cornwall Beach)

Sea Shell Inn.

(876) 979-5353.

From Doctor Caves Hotel, its that street on the left side of the hotel if you are facing the hotel.

Just go down to the end of the street, not far.

Last, that massage was right on time, I think I would have been in pain the whole trip.

By the time I got home, the pain was gone, I had forgotten all about.

The strip really is dying. About 10 years ago it was on a strong rebound. They tore down the old facilities at Dr Cave beach and built the one that is there now. The Gloustershire dropped their affiliation with Comfort Inn and used the franchise money to remodel. Casa Blanca started it's renovation. Jimmy Buffet and the Jamaican government finally made up with each other and JB pumped money into the strip. Not only M-ville but Marguerites, the Jazz Club, Bobsled Cafe and Groovy Grouper are all under his umbrella.

Then the government finally got the funding to build the new highway to Ocho Rios. The roads and new airport were built by Spanish companies. Their workers discovered Jamaica and liked it, starting a Spanish tourism boom. Big Spanish corporate investors started building the new mega resorts. Rose Hall became the focus of attention with the Palmyra condo towers, Shoppes at Rose Hall and a few others in the works.

As the new resorts started to open, some traffic moved away from the strip. But there were big plans and projects going on. Super Clubs has been closing clubs and re-opening them with new brands. Breezes was closed to be transformed into something new. Gloustershire was bought by Sunset Resort with a massive renovation planned and actually started.

Then the economy is the US started it's nose dive and tourism dropped off. Many of the new projects have been abandoned. Even ones that are still in progress have slowed down. Palmyra was supposed to be open a few years ago. They are still working on it but opening is now "soon come".

The strip is surviving on daytime traffic from the cruise ships. Busloads go to the beach or M-ville. There is still some action at night but it is not the same as it used to be.

In the near future, we will see the areas from Rose Hall to Trelawny beginning to blossom. There is a new cruise port that will open in the next couple months in Falmouth. That will draw a lot of the daytime business away from the strip. Falmouth will be a boom town. Closer to Mobay, there are a couple of new projects in the Ironshore area that will include shopping, food, nightclubs etc.

Farther in the future, there is a debate about re-building the Freeport cruise ship dock to revitalize Mobay, or build a new one in Lucea to open up the western parts of the coast. No one is really sure what will happen. City Centre, the old duty free shopping center is on it's knees. If they pull ships out of Mobay it will die as will the strip.

If there is any hope for the strip, it will be when Cuba opens up to US tourism. That will create a lot more ship traffic as Cuba will be the new place to go. Most ships will hit both Cuba and Jamaica because they are so close to each other. As more people discover Jamaica from the ships, more will return for a vacation. And the economy will eventually recover and more previous tourists will be able to travel again.

For myself, since the Gloustershire closed, I finally decided to get off the strip. I now rent a car and stay either at the Hilton or the Ritz (some screaming deals on the Ritz right now) I really don't miss the strip at all. I don't monger in Jamaica other than getting to know locals for freebies or an occasional massage at Ocean View. (Yes it is the old Rejuvie) Now my hotel is a little oasis of normality where I can actually expect efficient service and well maintained facilities as opposed to the funky third-world charm of the Glou, the Wex or El Greco. Funky charm gets old after a decade or two and the street higglers are just a pain in the culo.

I still love Jamaica and the only place I have found that is easier to score local girlfriends is Thailand. I have never paid for action in Jamaica, other than dinner or drinks and have sometimes even had the girl pick up the check! The ones with good jobs are proud to be able to make their own way in life. These are the best ones to find, not because of economy, but because they are brightest, most educated and wonderful women you can find in Jamaica. And my age, size and marital status does not get in the way. They are happy to enjoy an evening with a gentle, respectful man that can carry on an intelligent conversation.

And if they come to my room at the nicer hotels, they are not even noticed by the staff whereas on the strip, any girl that you bring in is suspect, often I'd'd and you usually pay a joiner fee. Of course my lady friends already fit in at a place like the Ritz on their own and would be capable of reaming out any hotel staff that would think otherwise. I never pay extra to have them stay with me and because of my corporate accounts with the hotels they can even join me for my complimentary breakfast where they are treated like a queen.

I have many fond memories of the strip but I am much happier to be done with it, other than an occasional stop at a restaurant or see a friend that has a shop there.

I may be there next week myself!

Pogo

I am staying at the Hilton Rose Hall I decided to pop for the nice spot. Wow its fucking $35 each way to the strip for a taxi ride? Wow $70 round trip and payed twice the price for the room, I think I effed up!

[QUOTE=Ladanian;1101561]I am staying at the Hilton Rose Hall I decided to pop for the nice spot. Wow its fucking $35 each way to the strip for a taxi ride? Wow $70 round trip and payed twice the price for the room, I think I effed up![/QUOTE]Are you kidding me? $35 one way? I paid $35 one way to Trelawny in 09. Because of

How slow it is, I only paid $25 to Trelawny this trip.

I have the name of a driver that will give you a better fare if you want to pm me for

His number.

[QUOTE=Pogostick;1101253]The strip really is dying. [/QUOTE]Yeah Pogo, you are right. The strip is getting old. I plan to visit Jamaica two more.

Times and that will be it for me. I have a trip planned for March and maybe I will go.

In July.

The reason I say maybe in July is because I have a trip ready for BKK in feb.

I have some friends that just retired near BKK and I will be hosted by them. My.

Best friend there is lonely and he would love for me to move there.

I told him if he finds me a rich woman I would move there. Well, he did. I just

E-mailed her my pix, she already saw me and was interested in meeting me.

When I was in Mobay, I thought about living there. I would have a good time with.

The women but that would get old I think. Then I thought about what would I do in.

My free time. Nothing, there is not much to do there. They are not very modern.

At least in BKK, its modern, there is a lot of farangs going there. I have never been.

A kept man. This woman is my age, which in BKK, it is next to impossible to find.

A man who won't cheat. I am not sure if I do this I could contain myself.

There is still some places I wanted to travel to. I just want to go to SD / DRep one.

More time. I think I will be okay after that. I wouldn't mind going back to the.

Philippines, but it is such a mess getting around, I think I will be okay without.

I want to go back in March to see everybody one last time. I will do the Wex,

One last time. The strip is dead but that was to my advantage. I didn't think.

About it on my last trip but I realized there was opportunity with the girls at.

The little shops (run by Indians).

I talked to maybe the only Jamaican owned shop owner-Bev's Boutique and she.

Was upset how the Indians own and run all the shops. She said they pay the

Jamaican girls very little. They take the jobs because there are none.

I think I will stop by one of the shops and see if I can pick up one of them. They.

Are nice girls, I usually just say no thanks when they ask me to shop with them.

I am sure there is some free play there.

I don't know what the future of Jamaica will be. I hope they can find their niche.

I had a lot of good memories and I know anyone going now can have a lot of.

Fun on the cheap. They will bend over backwards for your patronage, just be.

Respectful when they ask if you want something from them. Just say no thanks.

And they would appreciate your kind response and not bother you anymore

[QUOTE=Ladanian;1101561]I am staying at the Hilton Rose Hall I decided to pop for the nice spot. Wow its fucking $35 each way to the strip for a taxi ride? Wow $70 round trip and payed twice the price for the room, I think I effed up![/QUOTE]The Hilton is a very nice property IF you have a car AND know your way around the area really well. Otherwise it is pretty isolated and you will be stuck eating on property which is very expensive.

If you want slightly more upscale than the Wex you can try the Casa Blanca Hotel. It is right in the middle of the strip and all rooms are waterfront. It is one of the oldest hotels in Mobay but has been undergoing a total renovation. The finished part is pretty nice. No car needed if you stay there. It ain't the Hilton or Ritz but it is as good as it gets on the strip at this time. Dr Cave Beach Hotel might be a second choice. You'll often find nice tourist action there, especially around spring break.

But without a car and some good local knowledge, the Hilton is not the best choice. If you can find a good driver that can work on a daily rate it might be possible. That way you get a trusted driver and a solid wingman all in one. If I get a chance I'll dig through my old files and see if I can get a good one for you. I have one in mind that is very dependable, street smart and will get you the best in supplies as well.

And don't let Thaijuan and I make you think there is no fun on the strip. It still rocks, but not like the old days. It still has lots of good restaurants, bars, night clubs and pussy (local and tourist). It is safe (but watch your pockets around the fat obnoxious SWs near the Casino). It is still fun, especially the first few times. I have just pretty much outgrown it and prefer the peace and quiet at the Hilton or Ritz. But I drive and can still hit the strip anytime I want.

Pogo

If I could be a kept man in BKK I would be on the next plane! It is on my short list for retirement locations. Sooner if I can buy or start a business there. Most of the farangs I know with Thai wives tell me that the wives often find girls for them as a special present every now and then. They know that a man will be a man so they might as well have a say in who he goes with. Got to love Thailand!

I have come close to moving to Jamaica several times. I love it there and I love most of the people, but no matter how long you are there you are still a walking ATM to every idiot on the street. I can always politely get rid of them, but it really gets old to do it all the time. Kinda like PatPong. I can take about 30 minutes of it and I'm out of there.

I think that in the long run, Jamaica will be fine and the strip will bounce back. Jamaica always seems to be able to survive just about anything. There are solid plans in place for the expansion of tourism that will start as the economy recovers. And some of them are really exciting.

The shop girls on the strip are very good targets of opportunity. They are not only disrespected by Jamaican men, they often get poor treatment from stupid tourists who either get impatient with slow, island style service or get overly friendly, gushing on and on about their new "native" friends. If you treat them as an equal with respect and a strong acknowledgment of their power as a beautiful woman, the results can be amazing!

I'm kind of lucky in that I often deal with banks and other business offices where I get to meet management level women. They are a harder catch but worth the effort in a lot of ways.

I'll still be a regular in Jamaica because of business and it will always be one of my favorite places. But I can only take it in small doses.

Pogo.

[QUOTE=Thaijuan14; 1101655]Yeah Pogo, you are right. The strip is getting old. I plan to visit Jamaica two more.

Times and that will be it for me. I have a trip planned for March and maybe I will go.

In July.

The reason I say maybe in July is because I have a trip ready for BKK in feb.

I have some friends that just retired near BKK and I will be hosted by them. My.

Best friend there is lonely and he would love for me to move there.

I told him if he finds me a rich woman I would move there. Well, he did. I just

E-mailed her my pix, she already saw me and was interested in meeting me.

When I was in Mobay, I thought about living there. I would have a good time with.

The women but that would get old I think. Then I thought about what would I do in.

My free time. Nothing, there is not much to do there. They are not very modern.

At least in BKK, its modern, there is a lot of farangs going there. I have never been.

A kept man. This woman is my age, which in BKK, it is next to impossible to find.

A man who won't cheat. I am not sure if I do this I could contain myself.

There is still some places I wanted to travel to. I just want to go to SD / DRep one.

More time. I think I will be okay after that. I wouldn't mind going back to the.

Philippines, but it is such a mess getting around, I think I will be okay without.

I want to go back in March to see everybody one last time. I will do the Wex,

One last time. The strip is dead but that was to my advantage. I didn't think.

About it on my last trip but I realized there was opportunity with the girls at.

The little shops (run by Indians).

I talked to maybe the only Jamaican owned shop owner-Bev's Boutique and she.

Was upset how the Indians own and run all the shops. She said they pay the

Jamaican girls very little. They take the jobs because there are none.

I think I will stop by one of the shops and see if I can pick up one of them. They.

Are nice girls, I usually just say no thanks when they ask me to shop with them.

I am sure there is some free play there.

I don't know what the future of Jamaica will be. I hope they can find their niche.

I had a lot of good memories and I know anyone going now can have a lot of.

Fun on the cheap. They will bend over backwards for your patronage, just be.

Respectful when they ask if you want something from them. Just say no thanks.

And they would appreciate your kind response and not bother you anymore[/QUOTE]

Well guys,

I just booked one last trip (I think) to Mobay. It will be at the end of March. I will arrive on a

Thursday-in time for ladies night at M'ville. Then Friday is open for Pier 1. Then Saturday is.

Open for Moods and Sunday to recover and Monday, heading back home.

I love the strip, don't need a car, the Wex is hella cheap and the area is easy pickings.

I have decided to take a shot at BKK. I want to start a business that caters to english.

Travelers that don't speak Thai. Here in Vegas we call that a Casino Host.

This woman I am meeting is a retired businesswoman. Maybe she can help.

She has two houses a car and land. She is looking for a faithful man (in the LOS?) haha.

I was looking at a video of the ABC Hotel in the Philippines and also another video of body.

Painting over there and it was hard, really hard thinking I cannot go there and experience.

That.

To you young cats out there, get it out of system early, I did. I enjoyed my youth (20s-30s).

Its just that its hard to stop! I came to my senses and realize I need to start planning my.

Retirement. Hey, it should be an eyeful anyway? Besides, I have gotten so spoiled by what.

I have experienced, unless I am doing a threesome or a hella fine solo act, I get bored easy.

Please excuse my typing, I don't know why there are periods where I didn't put them and.

Words capitalized when I didn't do that. Also my paragraphs are not like it is coming out.

When I did my first report after getting back, the ISG page was different. I don't know what.

I need to do to make it look neat, I type better than that.

One question? How much can I expect to pay for a taxi from the Airport to the Strip? Also what is the currency exchange? What currency rate do they use in Jamaica? Gourdes, Pesos, Cedi?

Thanks Alew217

[QUOTE=Alew217; 1103555]One question? How much can I expect to pay for a taxi from the Airport to the Strip? Also what is the currency exchange? What currency rate do they use in Jamaica? Gourdes, Pesos, Cedi?

Thanks Alew217[/QUOTE]Jamaica uses the Jamaican dollar, but you can also use USD pretty much everywhere. Some things are cheaper to pay for in USD, most are cheaper to pay for in Jamaican dollars. Exchange rate is that you get about 85 Jamaican dollars for one US dollar.

Also, dude, RTFF. If you read through this thread and the General Reports thread I have put together an almost complete guide to Jamaica over the past few months. Below should answer your question on taxis.

[QUOTE=Fun And Sun; 1080519]This would seem like something that should be pretty easy, but like many things in Jamaica it is yet another thing which is designed to take money away from the uninitiated.

I personally also dislike arriving at an airport for the first time in a third world country without knowing what to expect, since you are very vulnerable at this point since you have all your luggage, credit cards, passport, cash, cameras, etc on your person.

Once you are through customs, you will be approached by porters offering to take your luggage, and by ladies asking if you need a taxi. Porters will demand a ridiculous trip for hauling your luggage 80 yards to a taxi, have never tried the transport offered by the ladies but am sure it is expensive, so just keep walking.

There is a stand with a sign that says "official taxi". All these guys do is take you to the driver that gives them the best commission, and not necessarily with the cleanest car, so go past this too.

At this point you will be approached by the JUTA drivers. They have uniforms (reddish pants, white shirts) which they manage to look sloppy in. If it's your first trip, then you might want to consider going with them since they are the absolutely safest and easiest option. They will massively over charge you at USD 10 to USD 15 for the five minute drive to Mo'Bay. They collude not to offer lower prices.

If you walk past the JUTA drivers then you are outside the building but under the roof. Here you will be approached by unlicensed drivers. You can get them to take you into town for 300-400 (about USD 5) Jamaican if you stand around for a while, especially until the crowd of people that are coming of the plane you arrived with thins out. That isn't something you want to do on your first trip.

If it is day time then you can get a route taxi. Either you walk up to the street (it is past the Texaco) and flag one down. The driver will come out of the taxi and put your luggage in the trunk. There is no charge for having luggage in the trunk, but you can't keep it with you since there needs to be room for other passengers. You might want to think of chartering the taxi for 300 jamaican instead of taking it as a route taxi. If you take it as a route taxi then make sure to confirm with the driver that he is a route taxi.

Alternatively you go over to the taxi stop (go right towards the departures area). There is no sign for the taxi stop, but it is the line of white cars. Ask the driver where he is going. (He might not be going to Mo'Bay that's why! Some of the taxis will be going towards Rose Hall and further which is the opposite way!) Try to get into one that is almost full, since otherwise you will have to sit and wait until the taxi fills up since the driver won't leave until it is almost, or very nearly, full.

The cost of the route taxi is the usual Jamaican 80-85, and you naturally can't take a route taxi if your hotel is not on the Hip Strip. Tell the driver in advance where you want him to stop if you don't know where the hotel is, since otherwise you might end up standing at taxi central in down town Mo'Bay with all your luggage which would, well, really suck in the day time, and at night time would be outright dangerous.

The route taxi option is doable at night to, and you can do this without worry, but not for the first time visitor. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Alew217; 1103555]One question? How much can I expect to pay for a taxi from the Airport to the Strip? Also what is the currency exchange? What currency rate do they use in Jamaica? Gourdes, Pesos, Cedi?

Thanks Alew217[/QUOTE]The taxis will immediately quote you in $$US, which $15 one way, was the going rate. I had to pick up a friend.

And I got the taxi down to JA10k one way, she was waiting when we got there, so we scooped her up and kept.

On going. I just doubled the initial offer and he dropped us off at Dr. Cave Hotel-JA20k roundtrip.

I am just saying, try to haggle if you can and pay in JA dollars when possible. It was very slow when I went,

I don't know what it will be like when you get there, but tourist have the edge I think.

One last thing, I have a good taxi friend, I can give you his number if you PM me. I don't use him for the.

Airport only because I use Jamaica Tour Limited (JTL). JTL is only $15 round trip-by shuttle bus!

They are located on the far left of the "confusion" as you are leaving the airport looking for transportation.

Sorry, the fare paid should be JA1k initially to go to the airport and JA2k for the R / T.

The one thing I hate about being in a foreign country is converting currency. I went.

To an ATM in Mobay and requested JA1500 not realizing it should have been JA15k.

I paid for that with the ATM fee of $5 x 2.

I don't really monger in Jamaica. But this trip I decided to try something different by joining AFF. So far in less than I week I have got 5 phone numbers of women that want to meet.

I have the first date tonight. On the phone we decided to just meet at my hotel at the bar for a drink. Then she said that if we like each other we could just go straight to my room.

I think this is going to be a sure thing.

Got another one scheduled for tomorrow during the day.

The cool thing is that they are all young, educated and have nice personalities. Not the obnoxious Jamaican hookers that I always avoid. Quality women and hopefully quality pussi.

I will definately report!

Pogo

This has been a refreshingly different experience for me in JA. I joined AFF on Dec 30 and by the time I arrived in Jamaica on Jan 5 I was set up with several possibilities.

My first date was Saturday night. She took a taxi to a place near my hotel so I could pick her up a drive her thru the security gate. She was too intimidated to try it herself. That is typical for many local Jamaicans as they are not really welcome in the nicer resorts. We had a drink and went to my room. She was the wettest and most sexually explosive woman I have been with in a long while. She spent the entire night with me and we got about 2 hours of sleep. All holes were open, covered down below and BBBJ on top. She only spilled a few drops but promptly licked them up. Total cost. 1 drink.

The next morning I took her to the bus stop and got ready to meet date number 2 for coffee. Cute little spinner showed up. Not as much personality as the first one but a rocking body. We went for a drive and quite quickly she had the little stick out for a BBBJ on the road. I was really looking forwad to getting her back to the room for a romp, but when I copped a feel in her pussy while still on the road, I was assaulted by the worst pussy stink I have ever had. So I pretended that my phone was vibrating and faked an "emergency call" from a client and took her back to her car. Too bad cause she was really hot and had a talented mouth. Went home and washed my finger.

Of the other contacts I made I called 3 of them. Tried to hook up with two of them but never could get the schedule to merge. The third one was a hooker from Wisconsin who wanted $200 for a hour. I told her that maybe in Wisconsin she was worth that, but this is the Caribbean. Jamaican pussy is either free or fairly cheap and that for what she charged, I could have 4-5 chicas at Campo in Curacao. She tried calling me several times a day wanting to hook up but I just ignored her calls.

Bottom line is that the Jamaican girls of AFF are there to meet and fuck tourists for fun and pleasure. One of the girls I will meet next time offered to take me to Hedo for a weekend. Her treat!

I also have contacts from SXM, AUA and CUR. Including a couple of bi girls that have had fantasies of going to a brothel but didn't want to go alone. I think I might be able to introduce them to the fun.

The pussy is here, it's free and it's fantastic!

Pogo

[QUOTE=Pogostick; 1111269]This has been a refreshingly different experience for me in JA. I joined AFF on Dec 30 and by the time I arrived in Jamaica on Jan 5 I was set up with several possibilities.

My first date was Saturday night. She took a taxi to a place near my hotel so I could pick her up a drive her thru the security gate. She was too intimidated to try it herself. That is typical for many local Jamaicans as they are not really welcome in the nicer resorts. We had a drink and went to my room. She was the wettest and most sexually explosive woman I have been with in a long while. She spent the entire night with me and we got about 2 hours of sleep. All holes were open, covered down below and BBBJ on top. She only spilled a few drops but promptly licked them up. Total cost. 1 drink.

The next morning I took her to the bus stop and got ready to meet date number 2 for coffee. Cute little spinner showed up. Not as much personality as the first one but a rocking body. We went for a drive and quite quickly she had the little stick out for a BBBJ on the road. I was really looking forwad to getting her back to the room for a romp, but when I copped a feel in her pussy while still on the road, I was assaulted by the worst pussy stink I have ever had. So I pretended that my phone was vibrating and faked an "emergency call" from a client and took her back to her car. Too bad cause she was really hot and had a talented mouth. Went home and washed my finger.

Of the other contacts I made I called 3 of them. Tried to hook up with two of them but never could get the schedule to merge. The third one was a hooker from Wisconsin who wanted $200 for a hour. I told her that maybe in Wisconsin she was worth that, but this is the Caribbean. Jamaican pussy is either free or fairly cheap and that for what she charged, I could have 4-5 chicas at Campo in Curacao. She tried calling me several times a day wanting to hook up but I just ignored her calls.

Bottom line is that the Jamaican girls of AFF are there to meet and fuck tourists for fun and pleasure. One of the girls I will meet next time offered to take me to Hedo for a weekend. Her treat!

I also have contacts from SXM, AUA and CUR. Including a couple of bi girls that have had fantasies of going to a brothel but didn't want to go alone. I think I might be able to introduce them to the fun.

The pussy is here, it's free and it's fantastic!

Pogo[/QUOTE]NICE! Pogo, good reporting (and if I could remember how I would nominate it for a ROD!)

Now I monger in Jamaica at least twice a year and I know my way around so I'm a little different but seems like a lot of work for a not so guaranteed result for most shorttimers, and who really spends THAT much time in Mobay! Seems for a few hundred dollars you could be assured of a great result as I personally believe that Jamaican chicas are among the best in the world (if one likes black women) and at some point you will probably have to really start piling on the BS and keep it all straight. A good local taxi driver (not Juta) could find almost guaranteed pussy (and great ganja, not the tourist crap) for cheap with no keeping track of fibs.

Anyway, good reporting and keep on mongering.

I have been to Jamaica at least 6 times a year for 15 years or so. It is one of the few islands where I don't monger much at all. But I like locals and know quite a few. I have also done the Hedo thing. (during lifestyle week it is awesome)

But I was amazed at the AFF responses. It really surprised me. The 2 that I did meet were instant scores. 2 that I talked to on the phone were ready to rock, were quite explicit on the phone and were also for free. Just could not get the time to hook up this trip. No worries about my marital status or anything. The only easier way to get laid is to walk the streets of Campo with a $100 bill sticking out of your fly. I never would have guessed that it would be so easy.

I agree that it does take some knowledge and experience in JA to make it happen consistantly. I drive there and know most of the North and West coasts pretty well. Mobay sucks, but the strip is OK for a beginner. And a good driver is essential until you are close to being Jamerican. I still see one of my regular drivers for ganja unless I go straight to Ochi where I do know several of the Marley family for Nine Mile produce.

Dutch islands next, then Asia.

Pogo.

[QUOTE=Rjsss212; 1112119]NICE! Pogo, good reporting (and if I could remember how I would nominate it for a ROD!)

Now I monger in Jamaica at least twice a year and I know my way around so I'm a little different but seems like a lot of work for a not so guaranteed result for most shorttimers, and who really spends THAT much time in Mobay! Seems for a few hundred dollars you could be assured of a great result as I personally believe that Jamaican chicas are among the best in the world (if one likes black women) and at some point you will probably have to really start piling on the BS and keep it all straight. A good local taxi driver (not Juta) could find almost guaranteed pussy (and great ganja, not the tourist crap) for cheap with no keeping track of fibs.

Anyway, good reporting and keep on mongering. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Rjsss212;1112119]I personally believe that Jamaican chicas are among the best in the world (if one likes black women) [/QUOTE]Hear, hear!

I once dated a 18 yo non pro from Mo Bay when I was there 15 years ago at the age of 40 who was quite accomodating. Ah the mammaries. She was the type that loved to see you squirt cum on her. Nice rack, too. Then there was this this older Jamaican mama with gigantic boobs. Wish I had digital phots to share. I'll go back sometime. Good ganja. Irie, mon!

[QUOTE=Fun And Sun;1112165]Hear, hear![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=D Cups;1112433]I once dated a 18 yo non pro from Mo Bay when I was there 15 years ago at the age of 40 who was quite accomodating. Ah the mammaries. She was the type that loved to see you squirt cum on her. Nice rack, too. Then there was this this older Jamaican mama with gigantic boobs. Wish I had digital phots to share. I'll go back sometime. Good ganja. Irie, mon![/QUOTE]My experience is similar, but I had trouble with anal with the younger one. What is it with these girls these days? When we eventually tried it was like I was cutting her head off. I think that the older lady I had for about six months some years ago was much more accommodating. She did not enjoy the pain but was always willing to share that bubble butt with me. She was the first and the last lady I did condomless anal with because she wanted to feel what cum in her ass felt like. Go to the clubs these days and they don't want to open the ass for you.

[QUOTE=Alan;1113557]My experience is similar, but I had trouble with anal with the younger one. What is it with these girls these days? When we eventually tried it was like I was cutting her head off. I think that the older lady I had for about six months some years ago was much more accommodating. She did not enjoy the pain but was always willing to share that bubble butt with me. She was the first and the last lady I did condomless anal with because she wanted to feel what cum in her ass felt like. Go to the clubs these days and they don't want to open the ass for you.[/QUOTE]Yup, this is such a travesty. With all the lovely bubble butts that the young Jamaican girls walk around with it is a rare treat for them to give up the back door. Not like Brazilian bundas, the girls there have some very spectacular behinds and are mostly more than willing to give up all three holes.

I think that it is a cultural thing in Jamaica, anal is seen as a batty boy activity and a bit taboo.

Hey if anyone else is here, call me at 8765778671. I am way out of my league here. My name is Carlos. I feel like I am getting hustled left and right, LOL.

[QUOTE=Loxxii;1126851]Hey if anyone else is here, call me at 8765778671. I am way out of my league here. My name is Carlos. I feel like I am getting hustled left and right, LOL.[/QUOTE]If it's your first trip then that is the feeling you will have until you get used to it LOL. Takes about five days to learn to deal with all the hustlers and touts and everyone under the sun is trying to sell you things. Just don't show anyone you are interested in anything (be it ganja, girls, whatever) and learn to find it for yourself and it will stop.

[QUOTE=Fun And Sun;1127293]If it's your first trip then that is the feeling you will have until you get used to it LOL. Takes about five days to learn to deal with all the hustlers and touts and everyone under the sun is trying to sell you things. Just don't show anyone you are interested in anything (be it ganja, girls, whatever) and learn to find it for yourself and it will stop.[/QUOTE]I have plenty of questions for the official FAQ now.

I was caught off guard by the fact that not everyone uses the same exchange rate.

Also when non pros turn out to be semi pros after the fact and ask for more in gifts than pros charge in cash.

Its hard to say no when the most beautiful girl you have ever been on a date with treats you like a king, puts out on the first night, and asks with those puppy dog eyes which you just damn near skeeted in a few hours before. LOL.

[QUOTE=Loxxii; 1127724]I have plenty of questions for the official FAQ now.

I was caught off guard by the fact that not everyone uses the same exchange rate.

Also when non pros turn out to be semi pros after the fact and ask for more in gifts than pros charge in cash.

Its hard to say no when the most beautiful girl you have ever been on a date with treats you like a king, puts out on the first night, and asks with those puppy dog eyes which you just damn near skeeted in a few hours before. LOL. [/QUOTE]LOL, just lob the questions in and I'm sure that you'll get answers to them.

You need both US and Jamaican dollars for the situations when you are faced with a shitty exchange rate so try to carry both with you.

It takes a while to learn to recognize a real non-pro, but if she has a job in downtown Mo'Bay (not just saying that she "does hair" which is their usual cover story, but you have first met her where she works) then that is a pretty big sign that she is a non-pro. Lots of the girls that work up on the hip strip in bars and restaurants side line to supplement their income by fucking tourists so there a non-pro is rare.

If a girl asks you for a ridiculous amount of money in the morning then don't cave in since if you over pay it will rapidly spread around to other girls and then from a point of pride perspective you will struggle to get another girl to agree to you paying her less. USD 100 is plenty for a girl that isn't a dancer or works in one of the massage places, so don't go above this and really you should be looking to pay any girl that is not very hot about USD 50-75 for all night. I've written a long section on prices in Jamaica in the general information thread that you might want to check out.

But really, what makes Mo'Bay (and Negril to a lesser extent) unique is the ability to easily connect with real non-pro girls and the occassional "quarter pro".

Inadvertently put my trip report in the general thread.

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OK guys I just returned from 13 days in MoBay. At first things were slow going, I got lots of numbers but didn't seem to hookup right away except for a few I had met online. About half way through the numbers began to pay off, a few nights I had 5 or 6 to pick from. The best was a girl from Moods LOL. I went there one night early and was talking to a hottie but then she had to dance so naturally when she left many others came over to chat and see if I would buy them a drink. My My there were some hot ass ladies in there but I figured they were too high priced for my taste so I drink a few and left. A few days later I returned, in fact there was a stabbing in moods the Friday night I was there but I had already left, so the cops shut them down. They opened a few night later outside at the club around the corner building, there I was checking out the hotties when the girl I had already met before came up and seemed mad, she said she was mad that I had left that other night, she said she really wanted to see me. I told her we could leave now and she agreed but I also asked her just how much money this would cost me? She said nothing? She told me to leave and meet her in front of Margaritaville, I left and should enough here she comes walking my way. We hugged and kissed and made our way to Christie's a little club heading towards the Jamaican Bobsled resturant. We had a few drinks (very cheap place indeed, drinks were 2. 50 J we left and went to my room.

Oh what a night! Now guys I have been all over the world and I have never had such a nite. I swear we fucked and sucked 4 hrs w / o a pause. We fucked every which way you can fuck, standing. Sitting on the baloney etc. At first she would refuse w / o a condom so I told her I would just as soon just eat her pussy as to waer a condom, I knew I was doing good eating her out and making her cum. Soon she said OK but don't cum inside, awe sucess was so sweet, I could cum in her mouth or tits, she said I could have it anytime and anyway I wanted, I obliged. She stayed all night and we ate breakfast the next morning and parted.

There is much more to this story but because of the time now I will download the pics and tell you more.

Alew217

[QUOTE=Alew217; 1135203]OK guys I just returned from 13 days in MoBay. At first things were slow going, I got lots of numbers but didn't seem to hookup right away except for a few I had met online. About half way through the numbers began to pay off, a few nights I had 5 or 6 to pick from. The best was a girl from Moods LOL. I went there one night early and was talking to a hottie but then she had to dance so naturally when she left many others came over to chat and see if I would buy them a drink. My My there were some hot ass ladies in there but I figured they were too high priced for my taste so I drink a few and left. A few days later I returned, in fact there was a stabbing in moods the Friday night I was there but I had already left, so the cops shut them down. They opened a few night later outside at the club around the corner building, there I was checking out the hotties when the girl I had already met before came up and seemed mad, she said she was mad that I had left that other night, she said she really wanted to see me. I told her we could leave now and she agreed but I also asked her just how much money this would cost me? She said nothing? She told me to leave and meet her in front of Margaritaville, I left and should enough here she comes walking my way. We hugged and kissed and made our way to Christie's a little club heading towards the Jamaican Bobsled resturant. We had a few drinks (very cheap place indeed, drinks were 2. 50 J we left and went to my room.

Oh what a night! Now guys I have been all over the world and I have never had such a nite. I swear we fucked and sucked 4 hrs w / o a pause. We fucked every which way you can fuck, standing. Sitting on the baloney etc. At first she would refuse w / o a condom so I told her I would just as soon just eat her pussy as to waer a condom, I knew I was doing good eating her out and making her cum. Soon she said OK but don't cum inside, awe sucess was so sweet, I could cum in her mouth or tits, she said I could have it anytime and anyway I wanted, I obliged. She stayed all night and we ate breakfast the next morning and parted.

There is much more to this story but because of the time now I will download the pics and tell you more.

Alew217[/QUOTE]Yes sir! JA is awesome. I think I am going back every 2-3 months since I am a teacher and have plenty of time off. Hell, I am even considering moving to South Florida just so I can fly there more cheaply. I have no wife or kids, so the only thing holding me to this place is a house and a job both of which I plan to dump in 15-18 months. Then I am going to enjoy a lot of time in paradise.

[QUOTE=Loxxii;1135283]Yes sir! JA is awesome. I think I am going back every 2-3 months since I am a teacher and have plenty of time off. Hell, I am even considering moving to South Florida just so I can fly there more cheaply. I have no wife or kids, so the only thing holding me to this place is a house and a job both of which I plan to dump in 15-18 months. Then I am going to enjoy a lot of time in paradise.[/QUOTE]I was thinking of moving to Orlando, so I could go to Ja on my days off. When I go to Mobay I have been having a hard time filling my time after I get my fill-which is like the first two days. The women are great, but I want to do more than make love. I met a cool taxi driver on my last trip, he promised to show me more of Mobay. I know life would be better if I had a car, but I am not into driving on the left side of the rode and couple that with crazy drivers?

From Vegas its a grueling 7-9 hour flight. I think its less than 2 hours from Orlando. I have been to Miami, I think its too big to feel at home and very hot. I was also thinking about the advantage of living in Orlando that I could visit the DR very easily as well. I am half Cuban and I have not been to Cuba yet. Mainly because they seem to have problems there that I don't need to put up with.

How is spring break there, are they there now? Its crazy here in vegas, lots of young college girls running around looking as slutty as they can be. I wish the age of alcohol was 18, we would have a good crowd, I know a lot of kids go to Ja, because they know they can drink their butts off.

I told my friend I hope I can find not a girlfriend, but a woman I can be friends with every time I go there. I meet people every time I go, but I never keep in touch. I thought about doing the Blue Mountain bike tour, but that was about it on the list of activities that I cared for. I just don't care for touristy things.

Last, I went to Moods on my last trip, I already decided I do not need to go in to hook up with anyone. There is so much action just standing around outside or you can catch them going in. When I went, M'ville and the Cliffs was dead, so that was the only happening thing in the area. I will be staying at the Wex, which is right next door.

All I have to do is go down to the sidewalk and catch them walking by as they head towards the Cliff.

Hoping to make it down to Mobay for the first time. Are hotels gf or do they charge additional? Thanks ahead for any comments as I've been looking at the Wexford as possibly base.

[QUOTE=Pete Benetar;1142412]Hoping to make it down to Mobay for the first time. Are hotels gf or do they charge additional? Thanks ahead for any comments as I've been looking at the Wexford as possibly base.[/QUOTE]Stayed at the Caribic. One day I was charged 20 but other days I go by for free. I will be back 4/18-25.

[QUOTE=Pete Benetar;1142412]Hoping to make it down to Mobay for the first time. Are hotels gf or do they charge additional? Thanks ahead for any comments as I've been looking at the Wexford as possibly base.[/QUOTE]I just got back from Mobay and I was staying at the Wex. It is "visitor" friendly during certain hours of the day, I think 10pm is the latest before they charge you to bring anyone in. I wrote the exact times in one of my posts. I think this will be my last visit to my dear Mobay.

I have to accept that it isn't what it used to be. It took me some time to let go, because I have had some good memories in the last 9 or 10 years I have gone there. There was a little bit more foot traffic this time than it was in December, but still no fun. I was checking out the shop girls who work for the Indians and most of them are not good looking at all. I was told they get very low pay, so I thought they would be easy to take out and hope for other things. Didn't see one that interested me.

Luckily, I met someone on my last trip who has things going in her life-own her business and has a car! We spent 3 of the 4 days together, so I didn't get to hit any MPs. The night scene was dead? I arrived on a Thursday, but didn't go out, was recovering from a long flight. Friday, Saturday was dead on the strip, I mean no one had anything going, EXCEPT there was a "teen" dance near the Harley store. WTF? I have never seen anything like that and was not comfortable standing around as there was an overflow onto the streets.

M'ville and Moods were both dead both nights, sad, just sad. The Coral Cliffs was average, no real crowd. I saw one SW one night, but they were not hanging out at the cliffs, area was too dead. I think the strip has seen its better days. I wonder where everybody is? At the all-inclusives? Negril? I don't know. You do need a car in my opinion, but for me, to drive in a foreign country, with driving maniacs and top that off with driving on the left side of the road, no way. If I were to go to Mobay again, I would stay at the Holiday Inn and make the best of it.

BTW, I had a bad experience at the Wex, so I know I won't be staying there anymore (and my bellman / hookup friend quit). When I arrived, some guy (I won't say his name) was checking me in. I have never been checked in by him before and the ladies all know me. He asked for my hotel confirmation number? I have never been asked for that. He acted like he was not going to check me in without it, like he was hoping I didn't have it and he could turn me away. I had to go online to my expedia account and get it. I arrived at 10am but he said the room would not be ready until 2pm! I have never had that happen.

They don't have a baggage room, they tell you to just leave it in the lobby. I didn't get a room until 3pm. My friend was with me and he was so nice to her. He told her what floor and room she was in, treated her like a guest. This hotel is by far no 4 star hotel, but you are paying some good prices. I only like it because of the location. Since I have come to my senses, it doesn't matter, my next trip will be Kingston-first time or Holiday Inn Mobay.

Damn. That is sad to hear. I am going back next week to scout for a place to stay this summer. If I don't enjoy myself, I may go to the DR. I hear you can rent a place there for $200 a month. Nothing in JA is that cheap. Possibly Haiti also.

From my travels, I have learned that each place has a certain level of excitement. Well, Mobay's is low. That town needs to bring itself up to date. It's like they are living in the past and have a ways to go to what's hip today. I kind of think they are going backwards. There is so much out there and you can't get that when you go to Mobay.

I am wondering if Kingston would be the cure I am looking for. The thing about Kingston is that I heard it is not really a tourist city. So, what would I do? I will have to think about that more.

Speaking of the DR, I can't wait to get back to SD. I have been wanting to go for a long time, but since the earthquake in Haiti, the hotels in SD have been expensive due to people staying there and traveling over to Haiti.

I think I will start hanging out in CR and DR, they have been the nicest places I have been.

I understand the economic situation in Mobay (I heard they are trying to move the tourist spot to Falmouth). The people never really smiled, sometimes the men were rude. I didn't see chock full of ready girls. My girl told me the girls don't want to work, they like it when the men just give them money.

I wish anyone visiting Mobay a good time. For me, I know there are places where I can go and enjoy myself and the people around me are enjoying life. When I travel so far, I want to know I am going to have fun the moment I arrive.

I think jamaica can be pretty cool if you meet the right people. Several jamaicans that I spoke to told me NEGRIL is where it's at. We went through all the towns etc. and that's what everybody agreed on.


Negril has a history or catering to hedonistic activities since the hippie era.

I've also been told port antonio close to kingston is really beautiful and still well preserved. A cab ride from the kingston airport is very expensive though as well asmost villa rentals.

I think you should try negril one day if you like black girls. I've driven through mobay but was totally turned off by it.

Jamaica is an island. There are some limits but you can have fun. I would like to go back but I can't be there without a car or driver. You are more or less trapped where you are. Renting a bicycle helps.

[QUOTE=Thaijuan14; 1145101]From my travels, I have learned that each place has a certain level of excitement. Well, Mobay's is low. That town needs to bring itself up to date. It's like they are living in the past and have a ways to go to what's hip today. I kind of think they are going backwards. There is so much out there and you can't get that when you go to Mobay.

I am wondering if Kingston would be the cure I am looking for. The thing about Kingston is that I heard it is not really a tourist city. So, what would I do? I will have to think about that more.

Speaking of the DR, I can't wait to get back to SD. I have been wanting to go for a long time, but since the earthquake in Haiti, the hotels in SD have been expensive due to people staying there and traveling over to Haiti.

I think I will start hanging out in CR and DR, they have been the nicest places I have been.

I understand the economic situation in Mobay (I heard they are trying to move the tourist spot to Falmouth). The people never really smiled, sometimes the men were rude. I didn't see chock full of ready girls. My girl told me the girls don't want to work, they like it when the men just give them money.

I wish anyone visiting Mobay a good time. For me, I know there are places where I can go and enjoy myself and the people around me are enjoying life. When I travel so far, I want to know I am going to have fun the moment I arrive. [/QUOTE]

In MoBay right now. I am at the Caribic if anyone is in town. I will be here for a week. The place is pretty dead on a Monday night. I tried to walk down to AquaSol to visit Dreamz, but the place was closed. I got approached by a skinny, ugly SW on the way back. She kept propositioning me and putting her arm around me. I removed it and said No thank you like 5 times before she finally backed off. Maybe she was trying to get close enough to go in my pocket? I wanted to get aggressive with her, but I am trying to be cool here.

Last time, I met a cool chick and that helped a lot with the midweek boredom. We kinda fell out, so I have no contacts here now. I did visit the massage parlour earlier. That was ok. I will be going somewhere downtown tomorrow. I've got to find a good non to quarter pro to hang out with.

Does MoBay have an escort / call girl scene like the US does?

[QUOTE=Thaijuan14; 1135358]I was thinking of moving to Orlando, so I could go to Ja on my days off. When I go to Mobay I have been having a hard time filling my time after I get my fill-which is like the first two days. The women are great, but I want to do more than make love. I met a cool taxi driver on my last trip, he promised to show me more of Mobay. I know life would be better if I had a car, but I am not into driving on the left side of the rode and couple that with crazy drivers?

From Vegas its a grueling 7-9 hour flight. I think its less than 2 hours from Orlando. I have been to Miami, I think its too big to feel at home and very hot. I was also thinking about the advantage of living in Orlando that I could visit the DR very easily as well. I am half Cuban and I have not been to Cuba yet. Mainly because they seem to have problems there that I don't need to put up with.

How is spring break there, are they there now? Its crazy here in vegas, lots of young college girls running around looking as slutty as they can be. I wish the age of alcohol was 18, we would have a good crowd, I know a lot of kids go to Ja, because they know they can drink their butts off.

I told my friend I hope I can find not a girlfriend, but a woman I can be friends with every time I go there. I meet people every time I go, but I never keep in touch. I thought about doing the Blue Mountain bike tour, but that was about it on the list of activities that I cared for. I just don't care for touristy things.

Last, I went to Moods on my last trip, I already decided I do not need to go in to hook up with anyone. There is so much action just standing around outside or you can catch them going in. When I went, M'ville and the Cliffs was dead, so that was the only happening thing in the area. I will be staying at the Wex, which is right next door.

All I have to do is go down to the sidewalk and catch them walking by as they head towards the Cliff. [/QUOTE]Just to let you know, we have an active forum here in Orlando. Feel free to contact me for intel. I would appreciate the same if you have any intel on Ocho Rios, as I am headed back there after more than 5 years since my last visit, and have not had the chance upto now to ever partaking while there.

SP-8

The advertised girls are the worst deals ever. I actually had an AFF connection, but fell asleep waiting for her to come. She called, but I had the phone on silent. Just my luck.

Since I was stuck last night, so I decided to try takeout from the massage parlor on top road. The hotel security recommended a driver named Patrick. He was drunk. Let me tell you, Jamaican drunk driving is enough to scare a zombie into wearing a seat beat. This guy took out a cone on the way back. Anyway.

He takes me to the place and like 10 girls come out. I choose and pay $120 US for 6 hours. I later find out this only includes a massage. Extras are extra. Patrick charges me $50 US and the girl charges me $80 US for a CBJ.

The only good thing that came out of this is that she told me there is a quick way to walk to the massage place by taking an elevator in the hotel next to caribic which lets you out on top road. Nice. I will try this out later for the sake of the board.

It's hard to get a good quickie for less than $50 with these pros, even the $120 for 6 hours deal was basically a $250 massage and quickie CBJ. The pros seem to be lazy and are worst than a last resort.

[QUOTE=Loxxii;1147140]The pros seem to be lazy and are worst than a last resort.[/QUOTE]This has generally been my experience with black, Caribbean p4p providers. I haven't been to Jamaica, but I have mongered in Belize, Bahamas, Barbados, and Guyana. My experience has generally been quite similar to yours. Moreover, they all seem to have an attitude problem; they act as if they are doing you an enormous favor by condescending to have sex with you. And, like you, I have found that CBJs are the norm. Who knows why? It must be a cultural thing.

Does anyone have a contact number on a decent girl in Jamaica? I just thought maybe somebody that will not be coming back soon may want to help a local girl make a few dollars and a new friend.

I tried meeting a non pro yesterday. I went to the last restaurant in City Center Mall. There was a cute girl working there alone. Maybe she owns it? I ordered a grilled chicken salad and water from her to try and strike up a conversation. She never smiled or seemed interested. To top it off, she charged me $9 for the food.

Where is a good spot to just hang out downtown and speak to girls that pass bye or work in the area?

I tried sitting her Burger King around 6pm when most of the Hip Strip shop girls walk home. Fun and Sun advised against Strip girls, but I may have to resort to that. I am even considering a 5-6 on the looks scale if her body is a 7-9. For the price I paid to get here, I shouldn't have to settle but I want to meet a friend in the next 5 days.

[QUOTE=Loxxii; 1147214]Does anyone have a contact number on a decent girl in Jamaica? I just thought maybe somebody that will not be coming back soon may want to help a local girl make a few dollars and a new friend.

Try AAF. I won't be down there for another month and I've never been to Jamaica but I have at least a dozen very acceptable 18-20 somethings set up, between MBO an Kingston.

Don't know if you get out to or care for Asia but just got back Monday from Angeles City, Phillipines and that is an awesome experience for "pro's", barfines etc especially if you want your girls speaking English.

I'm off to West Africa next week and going only with gf's on dating sites, where the quality of the black girls such that I have serious trouble getting past the first one I meet who f's and blo's so damn good before I tell her I want to marry her and almost mean it.

[QUOTE=Pete Benetar; 1147252]

[QUOTE=Loxxii; 1147214]Does anyone have a contact number on a decent girl in Jamaica? I just thought maybe somebody that will not be coming back soon may want to help a local girl make a few dollars and a new friend.

Try AAF. I won't be down there for another month and I've never been to Jamaica but I have at least a dozen very acceptable 18-20 somethings set up, between MBO an Kingston.

Don't know if you get out to or care for Asia but just got back Monday from Angeles City, Phillipines and that is an awesome experience for "pro's", barfines etc especially if you want your girls speaking English.

I'm off to West Africa next week and going only with gf's on dating sites, where the quality of the black girls such that I have serious trouble getting past the first one I meet who f's and blo's so damn good before I tell her I want to marry her and almost mean it. [/QUOTE]I tried AFF it was fine for a while, but I dried up that well. Meet 3-4 girls after wading through 10-15 old posts from girls no longer using the site. There hasn't been one new addition since February.

Ok, JA may have redeemed itself. I am taking a new approach. I was disappointed by what I'd been getting for the high prices. My mistake was trying to have sex with pretty girls. Figured that this was what I was here for. Tonight I went to the massage place with the white door and decided to just get a rub and tug. On a whim, I chose the uglier chick because I was frustrated with the nicer looking one's price Monday. She REALLY appreciated it. I paid 2000 JA for a nice full hour massage with happy ending. The kicker is after the pop, she kept tugging and gave me another pop like 20-30 minutes later. DAMN, that shit felt great. I don't know if that qualifies as a multiple orgasm, but I that I was completely out of breath and couldn't even sit up for a while. I wanted to tip her $20 US, but decided to give 1000 JA because I know I will be seeing her several more times and did not want to get stuck with the higher price.

That massage saved my trip. I am going to try for some uglier non pros tomorrow to see if it works with them.

I was unsuccessful today finding non pros downtown. I went to 2 restaurants, neither of which had waiteresses. I couldn't find any like that in my budget (under 1000 JA). I walked around for about an hour and even found a spot to sit where I can watch the girls passing on the street. It was very good viewing, but I hurt my cheeks from smiling at about 100 girls. None of them smiled back. (BTW I am not hideous, albeit slightly chubby) I even wore my NFL jersey to show that I was a rich Ameican football player. No takers.

Does anybody know of any restaurants where I can sit for a good price and flirt? Also, how the hell do you have a conversation with some one who speaks heavy patois? I kinda want to just listen out for understandable words and the flirt with whichever woman spoke them.

As a side note, thank God for the dress code at Jamaican schools. Even the young girls are fine. If it wasn't for the uniforms, I could easily mistake a 16-17 year old for an adult and get thrown in a 3rd world prison for life or lose the appendage that led me here.

Damn, where do real Jamaican go to meet dates. The one night stand thing is my last resort. I want to find the love of my. Week.

So I go over to Margaritaville yesterday around 10:30. Nobody was there, so I went to the casino to kill some time and went back around 12:00. The place was packed. Not as many nice looking dancers as last time, but it was good. I ran into the chick I meet there last time. I gave her a hug and then avoided her for the rest of the night. She became really annoying after I fucked her in February. I believe she is a non pro because she struck up a conversation with me, spent the night with me, and then proceeded to spend like $40 worth of my money at the grocery store in the morning. I had to ditch her downtown and was surprised to see her again yesterday.

I started to hunt but had trouble telling jamaicans from back touristas. I told one chick I was enjoying her beautiful island and she was like,"fool I'm from Detroit." From then on, I tried to avoid girls who were with other people but I was worried that this would lead me to a pro.

Towards the end of the night, I had made no connections. The semi-pro from February was drunk as a skunk and could find no takers for the pussy she was throwing around. I was a girl sitting alone and told myself that I would try her and if it did not work out, I would reluctantly settle for the drunk chick since it was like 3:30 by this time.

I approached the girl and introduced myself. I found out that she is a teacher (me too) and she was born in June (me too). She seemed shy on one hand, but on the other, she kept translating the reggae songs for me which all included some vulgar sex acts. I loved hearing this shy chick say pussy and cock repeatedly. At 5 AM, she left with me and spent the night. I tried to fuck her, but she tells me she is on her period (WTF) so we make out and she gives me a hand job. I wanted a BJ but since she did not offer and I did not pay, I didn't want to push for that and mess up what I was getting for free.

In the morning (around noon) , we repeated our session. This time I rubbed her pussy through the panties. She got very excited and moved around a lot. Suddenly, she says we need to stop because she doesn't want to mess up the sheets and lo and behold. Too late. I was too embarassed for her to be disgusted but she handled it well. She washed the sheets in the bathroom and I am thinking that will never come out, but she worked a miracle. After we showered together, she left with JA500 taxi fare from me and is meeting me for Pier 1 tonight.

I like her a lot and want to remain friends once I leave since we have some things in common. Here's the problem, how do I do that and tell her that I want to fuck another chick since she is on her period? LOL. I guess I am stuck. I am going to try and get some head from her tonight. If that doesn't work, I will tell her I have adventure tours planned for the next 2 days and ditch her that way and email her once I get home.

PS: Sorry for the boring reports but I want to keep some activity on this forum since it was so helpful to me. I will be making some more informative posts soon like the elevator to Top Road where the old Rejuve is.

I will report on Pier 1 tonight, Moods tomorrow, and I want to try and get 2 girls on Sunday since it will be my last night.

Your posts are much appreciated Loxxii; old Jamaican vets may not get much from them, but as a Jamaican cherry famished for any data, I certainly appreciate your posting. Happy Hunting (and don't worry about all those Ass-Hole USA tourists, haha. Yes, I'm American).


PS: Sorry for the boring reports but I want to keep some activity on this forum since it was so helpful to me. I will be making some more informative posts soon like the elevator to Top Road where the old Rejuve is.

I will report on Pier 1 tonight, Moods tomorrow, and I want to try and get 2 girls on Sunday since it will be my last night. [/QUOTE]

Ok, so the girl came back last night and we planned to go to Pier 1. We decided against it because we were both tired. Also, one thing I liked about Margaritaville is that early in the night, they play Hip Hop. I enjoy music that I know the words to, so later when they played the hardcore reggae stuff, I was lost while everyone else seemed to love it. (I did learn the term "fluffy" which means a fat girl. Still cracks me up.) She told me that Pier 1 was pretty much all reggae, so instead we went to Coral Cliff to hear the band. That was nice.

When we got back, we listened to some slow songs and got the night started. I tried for head, by pushing hers in that direction but she has a pretty strong neck and resisted. At this point, I am at a lost for what to do because I really like her but this no head in Jamaica BS is BS. (I mean, it's Jamaica and I met you at a club, WTF?) So we continue making out and I am getting pretty bored, but she is enjoying it. Suddenly, she whispers in my ear,"I want you to fuck me!" Come again? Remember that she is on the rag. Frustrated and basically stuck with her, I said fuck it. I strapped up and hit it from the back while she held a rag (so that's where the phrase originated) up to her pussy to protect the sheets. A night benefit to being slightly turned off by this is that I was able to last a long time. The way she was crying and throwing it back let me know that she would be a beast in bed if it was not that time of the month.

In the morning, I had gotten all I was going to get from her through all the blood, sweat, and tears (LOL). I needed to ditch her and possibly not be rude about it so that I will still have a friend when I return. I told her I was going to Nine Mile (I'm not because it's $150 just for the 150 minute ride there with ThaiJuan's driver and more to get in). She wants to go with me but knows she can't so she asks for JA500 lunch money. I give her JA1000 for that and a taxi. She says she will see me later. I thought to myself, yeah like in June but she is smarter than I thought. This chick leaves her shoes, bag, and panties in my room so that she will have an excuse to come back. Damn! She marked her territory.

It's ok because I did not plan on getting anybody else back to my room since I am leaving in 2 days, but I am getting sick of this careful sex. I have a few hours to myself, so I am going to hit some massage parlours now, some strip clubs later, and then call her back very late (as I am typing this, she calls me back to back when I did not answer. Fuck, she just left 20minutes ago.) It is going to get expensive but I am going to go straight P4P with like 4 girls today. I will report later.

[QUOTE=Loxxii;1147623]Damn, where do real Jamaican go to meet dates. The one night stand thing is my last resort. I want to find the love of my. Week.[/QUOTE]Loxxii, it sounds like you are trying too hard to get laid. You need to understand the mind frame of (Mobay) women.

My last visit there I met a woman who owned her business and she was telling me how hard it was for her to get good hard working female workers. Why? She said because the Jamaican men just give them money, they don't have to work. I am guessing this is very true with the very pretty women who get courted everyday.

If you have noticed, there are not a lot of jobs for the women there. There are to me, a lot of men to women. I have met some pretty women and they usually have some attitude like they are the last ones on earth. The girl I.

Met was not only independent, but also good looking, so I don't know how I pulled that.

I have been trying to say in my posts that Mobay (the strip) has experienced a shift in mongering. Its not there anymore. In order to find action, you have to have a car and be on the move. If one spot isn't happening, you can drive to another area. Like I have said, I won't drive so my days there are numbered. I have to go to Jamaica to visit my mom who lives in Trelawny. I don't have to stay on the strip, but I do, because she likes to gamble (my money) at the Cliffs. On my last trip, while at the cliff during the daytime-shows how bored I was, I saw an old flame from maybe 3 or 4 years ago (waitress) , she just waved and kept on with herself. She did not even come.

Over and greet me, shows how times have changed.

I was going to take the bike tour (I think it is down Blue Mountain) , I got sidetracked by my new girl and didn't go anywhere outside of Mobay. It cost me $40 for my taxi friend to take me to Trelawny, in which, other drivers are asking $50-$60. I think $150 sounds maybe a little high but I have ever taken the trip or compared it to a tour company.

Loxxii, let me just say this. I have traveled to Asia, Central America and the Caribbean. The one thing I finally realized after traveling to Thailand, is attitude. I could name the "happy" countries I have been to and I could name the "unhappy" countries. The point is it matters where you go. Some places, the people are very happy with their lives. They may be poor (or comfortable) but they are happy. Some places, the people are mad at the world because they are very poor, and I don't blame them. I don't see a lot of people smiling and acting happy.

Jamaica, like many poor places suffer from too much corruption. When they get some money (tourist dollars) that could be used to better or modernize the town, the corrupt people keep the money. In Mobay, they are really behind as to what is hip and modern. I think that is why the all-inclusives do well, they have modern hotels.

It is very frustrating to be there. Where are the mega malls like everybody else? Why isn't transportation easier.

For the foreign traveler? And the prices, come on, if its bad for us, what about the locals?

I love Jamaican women, but it is not worth struggling to have fun when you get there. There are too many places I still need to explore and others I can't wait to get back to. I just say if someone hasn't been to Jamaica, please go.

The first time anywhere is always an adventure, its the 2nd and 3rd trips where you have to start to be creative.

I am thinking about going to the Holiday Inn Sunspree in December. That will tell, if I will keep going back to Mobay. I stayed there one night (while staying at the Wex) and it was cool to just walk up and get food and drinks at will. There were a lot of people staying there when I was there. I will report back on my experience.

Loxxii,

Actually, $150 to Nine Mile and the $20 or so to get in is well worth the money and time. (but I am really into Reggae and Bob Marley) You might get it a little cheaper with a tour company but I would rather have a cool, private driver who can really show me Jamaica rather than being with a busload of obnoxious tourists.

Thaijuan,

I agree that the strip has gone way downhill. I used to stay at the Gloustershire and could sit on the balcony while an endless parade of women would call up to me from the sidewalk offering their services. Now all you see are a few fat, obnoxious BJ / Pickpocket artists near the casino.

When I first started going to Ja I was not into mongering so I did not partake of the selection. I was single and got plenty of local and tourist pussy. By the time I got into mongering there was a lot less action on the strip and I had no interest in what was there.

So I have never considered Ja as a mongering destination. I go for business, but I do love the island and it's people. Other than an occasional trip to the massage place, the only action I get in Jamaica is pure amateur.

I have the opportunity to live there if I want, but I doubt I ever would do it. It is an extremely difficult place to live. There are very few of the modern conveniences that we take for granted in the US. Everything takes too much time and hassle.

I hope to retire in Thailand, but that is for another time and forum section.

Pogo

ok, so here is the shortcut to ocean view (aka rejuvi) i promised.

look across the street from the post office next to dr. cave beach. there is a very tall building called montego bay resort club condiminiums.

1. go up the spiral stairs and down the hall to the right of the shop in the middle.

2. at the end of the hall, you will find the elevator on the right.

3. get off at the pent house (ph) which is the highest floor.

4. walk through the bridge. (be sure to notice the view of the ocean so that you can appreciate what you are not paying for if you are staying at the caribic house)

5. now, cut through the parking lot of el greco resort. go over the speed bumps and through the gate bar both of which are painted black and yellow. there will be a guard at the gate, they won't mind if you pass through.

6. once you are on the street (top road aka queens dr.) make a left and walk until you get to the traffic light. it is just past the old castle looking building on the right and big apple rooms hotel on the left.

7. when you see grandiosa hotel on the right, you will go down a spiraling driveway on the left which leads to a white building. it looks abandoned at first, but walk up to the door and ring the bell. soon you will be in heaven.

this trip takes about 10 minutes (at least 12 minutes on the way back if you use enough energy there). this shortcut is great for the day time, but i would not recommend it at night although i saw no dangers besides the crazy driving when i went.

Thanks guys. You are both right. Things would be easier for me with the women if I could understand what the hell they were saying. If I come back, I would love to coordinate with some others instead of doing this on my on. I will try other places as well. I may just bite the bullet on that trip. If nothing else, I want to meet your guy. I talked to him on the phone and he seems cool.

So yesterday, I walked to Ocean View to see the girl that came to my room the other night. Much better experience this time. She was so glad to see me and smiled very big when I chose her again. This chick is so beautiful and SHE was happy when I picked her? If she was not doing this for money, I could easily make the mistake of marrying her and bringing her home to the US. I got a shower, massage, DATY, and massaged her for 50 plus a 20 tip. I was there for about 80 minutes as we went over my time talking.

When I got back, I tried to walk to X-quiz-it massage downtown on East Street, but I could not find it. I started noticing what looked like some "rude boys" and very few shops, so I got the hell out of there. Foolishly, I will try the trip again in about an hour.

I went to Moods last night and I did not like it at all. The women were not thick enough for me and the whole vibe of the place was uncomfortable to me. I must mention that I am from Atlanta which is black strip clubs superpower, so I just expected more. I stayed for about 20 minutes and then my girl came back over. She brought me food and some groceries but I was too tired to eat or give her much attention. We went to sleep and I made it up to her in the morning. She has a way with words in that beautiful accent like "Let us shower together" and "I am in love with every moment spent together". This time, she even decided to suck my dick before she left for church (didn't miss a beat) and she did not ask for any money for a taxi or lunch. She is clearly a non pro. If I was more attracted to her, I would be in big trouble at this point. She, like myself, is a teacher but she only makes like $800 a month (and she buys me groceries) whereas I make more than 4 times that and am still underpaid. Minimum wage here is like $200 a month and a fucking can of Pringles cost $5. That pisses me off.

Trips like this make me realize how lucky I am to have been created in America and I just take that for granted. It makes me want to marry these women and bring them home just to share my good fortune, but I can't save the world and it was just a thought. What I will do, is take her out to a nice restaurant tonight, give her a nice gift, and leave her with a little money when I leave. No problem, because she is a non pro so this won't affect the pussy market. Funny, if she was charging me, I would haggle with her for every dollar but since she wants nothing, I almost want to pay twice what a pro would charge.

Being the cheap ass that I am, (actually I'd just rather give money to a soft legged girl than a hard legged driver) I decided to walk to X-Quiz-It today.

1. Walk downtown (or take a taxi) to the Texaco station where are the taxis get gas.

2. From there, walk left down Union Street which is across from the gas station (you could also take Market Street which is a block up across from ScotiaBank and The Cage)

3. Walk down the street for a 2-3 blocks and then make a left down East Street which is a dead end.

4. Walk into the dead end and you will see the Van Dyke building on the left. The location looks horrible BTW.

5. Go in and up the stairs to the 3rd floor (I believe I actually went up 4 flights, but you will see a sign that says 3rd floor and a sign for X-Quiz-It Massage Parlour)

6. Press the buzzer and enter.

Unfortunately, the prices have gone up from what's on the website. It's $40 an hour same as Ocean View. I asked to pay in Jamaican and she said JA3200 (no price break). Tropical Fantasy (white door place on the Hip Strip) is the cheapest at JA2000 or $25 and provides the best service IMO.

They had 9 girls line up and I chose Cherry who is by far the nicest looking girl I had seen in Jamaica on this trip. I may actually go back to see her again later today. They have good beds with porn playing in the rooms and good music. The massage was mediocre because she is new but her looks and personality made up for it a lot.

[QUOTE=Thaijuan14; 1100994]Okay, I just finished kicking it with a 19 year old, I am feeling good. I am just standing at the

Sidewalk after getting her a taxi. This taxi driver (I am near the driveway of moods) comes over.

To solicit me. Normally I am sending them away but he says something that gets me talking to him.

I asked him about rejuvenation. He says its no good and he has some place better. Yeah, some.

Place that will give a kickback better! He hands me this card. Here is the link:

[url]http://www.x-quiz-it-bodyworks.com/facilities.php[/url]

He tells me he can take me there on Monday if I want. Well, I thought I should go, so I can report.

Back for you guys. I tell him I am going to Trelawny and I should be back by 4pm.

The next day, I meet him at 4pm. He said this place is Downtown, well, we didn't go Downtown.

We went to Top road. I don't know why he didn't take me to X-Quiz-it but I will have to go next trip.

The place he took me to was like Deja Vu when I stepped inside. The business card says this:

Montego Bay Ocaen View Massage Centre.

19 Queens Drive.

Mobay, St, James.

(876) 940-7417.

Man, I swear that is the old rejuvenation but the driver and the girl I was with said it wasn't.

I meant to ask some drivers my last day there if this was true or not but I forgot. I really want.

To know and I will find out on my next trip.

They had the same menu! And in english prices. I went for the cheapest offer, a thai massage.

You get a massage and a yank. This gets you in the door so you can negotiate with the girl.

On the menu, they had a 3some they call a double dutch. They also have escort were you.

Pay $150 to take her off property for 6 hours.

So they wanted $40 for the thai massage, I told the mamasan I only have Ja dollars.

She charges me $35 in Ja dollars.

Okay, here's the good part, the girls come out, I see Sereca, she's the 3rd. I already made

Up my mind as soon as I saw her. Exactly how I like them. We get back to the room and.

We hit it off.

She gives me a nice massage and asks me what I want. Hey, I am almost 50 (49) , by this.

Time, I am down on sperm count, need more time to recover so I tell her DATY and she can

Just give me a yank.

I turned her out, she came hard. I didn't think of it but I should have checked for her juices.

I love that. When she came, she put her hand out as to keep me away for a minute, I guess.

Because of the sensitivity, she really enjoyed that and that made my day.

She jerked me off while I held her precious breast, really nice. She asked if I wanted to

Shower with her, I told her no since I was going back to the hotel. While I was putting.

On my clothes she asked for my phone number?

I reminded her I lived in Las Vegas but she said she knew but wanted my number. That.

Was a first. I have had women pass me their number (on their own) because they liked me.

And wanted to do business again, but no one has asked me for my number.

We exchanged phone numbers, e-mail addresses and she wrote her real name down.

I wrote her a letter, I will see where this goes. I am not trying to have a relationship and.

She knows but it would be cool to hookup when I come to town.

They have 11 girls working of which 3 were on escorts. The driver said the girls beg him to.

Bring them business. I think the girls would suck my dick just to get me to pick them.

You can see the desperation in them. One girl shied away when I went to shake her hand.

I asked the driver why she did that and he said they hate to get rejected and I guess she.

Knew I wasn't going to choose her. I think she knew who I had my eyes on. [/QUOTE]

Yesterday, I went to Aquasol with my non pro. OMG! That place was packed for Easter. I literally and figuratively took sand to the beach because this chick was weighting me down with all the young tenders there. Dancing in Jamaica would be a crime if it was done in public in the US. I have no idea how the guys do that without getting aroused and hurting themselves. Anyway, the girl paid to get in and met me there, then out of nowhere she told me she did not like crowds (no idea why she didn't tell me that before). She just stood there looking bored while I swam and looked at the others having fun. She was the only one that was not having a blast. I would have cut off contact with her right then had she not left her stuff in my room. She finally left and I stayed for a few more hours before going back to X-Quiz-It. I turned my phone off and I promise you, this chick called like 25 times in about 4 hours and never left a message.

I looked around for a driver to take my back to X-Quiz-It since it was like 10 pm and you guys advised me not to walk downtown at night. I finally found a route taxi to do it since the only other one available was the horrible Patrick. I told the taxi how to get there and asked if he would wait for me. He said he would come back in an hour. I got out and that place is scary at night. I rushed up stairs to the place.

Again, I learned that when you go back to see a girl again, she is so excited to see you again like a newly wed returning from active duty in the military. Cherry asked me to buy her a Vodka for JA200. No problem, let's get loose. We went back and the massage and conversation was basically the same, except this time she asks some personal questions and says she wants to visit me in the US one day and she wished I had met her on my first day instead of my last (my biggest regret) After the massage, we got lost staring into each other's eyes and she kissed on my chest for a while. She is 22 and has a baby face, but a grown ass body. She said,"I have big tits and you have little tits." That cracked me up. This is why I like her. She seems so innocent. All I could do was laugh and smile and she would pout with her bottom lip out and ask why I was laughing at her. I could not take it any more and I had to DATY. She wanted sex but we had already been warned that I was over my time. She came and then asked "are you ready for your jerk off?" This included a little head kissing and I came on her tits. She gave me her real name, facebook, and email. I will go back in June just to see her. I will post pics later. The best experience of this trip came at the end. I guess that's life.

I called my driver and waited for him for like 20 minutes in the hall because I was too scared to go outside. Now let me tell you, I sat there and listened to every wild sound coming from the guys that were around the building. I don't know if they were vagrants, but my mind was tripping me out. If any of you saw the TV Show Prision Break in the season where they were locked up in a foreign prison, but that is what it felt like. I was so relieved when my driver called. On the way back, I saw why you should not walk downtown at night. In front of the gas station, I witnessed my very first KNIFE FIGHT from the taxi. WTF! Two dudes were swinging blades and cutting each other while yelling "blah blah bomba clot blah blah". Had I been walking when that happened, I probably would have just lied down and died from shock. Keep in mind, I am pretty big and have done some MMA training. Brock Lesnar would have pissed his pants if he was out there. Fuck that! We don't fight with knives. Dem rude boys play in the big leagues. The driver took me back and tried to charge me $60. I gave him the $40 and JA1000 that I had left on me. Once again, I gt robbed by a taxi but I was just glad to get out of there with my life.

I finally called my non pro when I got back to let her know I was home. I thought she would be pissed, but she came right over and brought me some jerk chicken. This place is like the bizarro US. I would have been in a knife fight with her when she got there had this been in the US. I think she might have even smelled the other chick's pussy on my breath when I kissed her. I still feel bad about that. We went to sleep and I checked out early so that I could get away from her (I left her $20 that she did not ask for) and went back to the massage place on the Hip Strip to see Chocolate at 7 am this morning before I went to the airport. I decided to take the 30 minute walk to the airport since I had some time to kill.

My advice is to come to the airport 3 hours before to avoid the ridiculous lines that I saw last time. Today has been a breeze. My biggest mistake is coming Monday-Wednesday. If you don't know anyone, those days can be a waste. The rest of the week was golden.

Until June.

[QUOTE=Loxxii.

I called my driver and waited for him for like 20 minutes in the hall because I was too scared to go outside. Now let me tell you, I sat there and listened to every wild sound coming from the guys that were around the building. I don't know if they were vagrants, but my mind was tripping me out. If any of you saw the TV Show Prision Break in the season where they were locked up in a foreign prison, but that is what it felt like. I was so relieved when my driver called. On the way back, I saw why you should not walk downtown at night. In front of the gas station, I witnessed my very first KNIFE FIGHT from the taxi. WTF! Two dudes were swinging blades and cutting each other while yelling "blah blah bomba clot blah blah". Had I been walking when that happened, I probably would have just lied down and died from shock. Keep in mind, I am pretty big and have done some MMA training. Brock Lesnar would have pissed his pants if he was out there. Fuck that! We don't fight with knives. Dem rude boys play in the big leagues. The driver took me back and tried to charge me $60. I gave him the $40 and JA1000 that I had left on me. Once again, I gt robbed by a taxi but I was just glad to get out of there with my life. [/QUOTE]I think I know why I have not being liking my last visits to Mobay by this post. I would not go downtown or pretty much anywhere at night there. I feel safe during the day downtown-and in a lot of other cities, but many of the other cities I have traveled to are not safe at night also, so its not a Jamaican thing.

I have loved the strip so much because you can walk at 3 an 4 am and not feel afraid. There are a lot of tourist police so that makes it nice. The things that made the strip the place is that it has many restaurants, many hotels (two or three have closed) lots of nightclubs and a lot of foot traffic-local and tourist.

Now, I think people are going to all-inclusives, they don't have to bother with all those elements. If you don't stay on the strip, you pretty much are confined to your hotel, there aren't many places you can go or walk around. That's why I have been complaining about them having a big mall. But then again, one thing I have noticed is that Jamaicans don't shop like they do in other countries. What few malls they have, the tourist frequent and they are few.

I think Mobay is a great place for a first timer, I highly suggest it. There's nothing like exploring something for the first time. Its the second and continued trips you will get bored. The women are beautiful and not hard to meet to me, its "what do I do now that I got laid?". Another thing is timing, you don't know when the town is going to be busy or slow. I think that may help to know but how are you to know? I went twice during high season and everybody kept saying-oh, it was busy last week. Yeah right.

I am still thinking about trying an all-inclusive, I hope its not half empty when I get there.

[QUOTE=Thaijuan14; 1150695].

I am still thinking about trying an all-inclusive, I hope its not half empty when I get there. [/QUOTE]If you are going to go all inclusive then you really need to go to Hedo II in Negril. Almost all of the other AIs cater to couples or families. Hedo is definitely adult. Spend the couple extra bucks to stay on the nude side. The prude side is OK but you'll have to get dressed to walk over to the nude beach and pool.

There will be mostly couples. But they play and often will invite playmates to join them. There are a few singles of both genders and in the disco at night you can find local semi-pros and pros. Things really heat up after midnight in the hot tub on the nude side.

If you are there during one of the "lifestyle" weeks then you will see fucking on the breakfast tables as well as anytime and anywhere at all. Those weeks are basically a 7 day orgy. My first stay at Hedo was a lifestyle week and it was awesome. The unwritten rule was if the curtain is open, feel free to watch. If the door is open, feel free to join in. There were a lot of open doors! 24-7! Dennyp. Com has lots of info including who is scheduled to be there and a forum to meet people before you go.

Besides all that, Hedo is one of the best resorts on the island and has the highest return visitor ratio for any resort in the world. You can still leave the resort and explore Negril, which is a very laid back place. There are some decent places to pick up pussy like the Jungle and a few other clubs and beach bars.

The one problem with an all inclusive is that you can't bring in a friend without at least buying them a day or evening pass. Around $80. Day pass must leave by 5 or 6 and evening pass must leave by 2am. The local girls that hang out at the disco all have to buy a pass to be there. That will be added to her pricing so you can expect to spend at least $100-150. Grab one early as there won't be a TLN unless you register her as a full guest. They show up right as the disco opens and sometimes a bit earlier in the piano bar. Often you can get real GFE from them, including participating in some of the swapping action with other couples.

At any other AI all you can expect is a no-hassle, no cash vacation. It is wonderful for just kicking back with no worries but your chances of getting laid on property are slim to none, depending on who is there at that time. You would still have to venture out to a strip club or MP.

Your other options are to get out of Mobay and head to Negril or Ochi at a reasonably priced beachfront hotel. You'll get a great vacation, should have no problems bringing in a guest (tip the security guy) and have an entirely different experience than Mobay.

The strip will continue to decline unless they can get the 3 biggest hotels open again. The Fantasy, across from Cornwall Beach has been closed for about 15 years but the Gloustershire and Breezes were always full until they both closed a couple years ago. They were the economic engines that drove the strip.

Have fun.

Pogo

I've been scouring the pages and cannot locate directions for this place. Any help? Thanks ahead.

I've been scouring the pages and cannot locate directions for this place. Any help? Thanks ahead.

Scoured about 10 pages and can't see straight anymore. Anyone have directions to this place?

[QUOTE=Pete Benetar;1159299]Scoured about 10 pages and can't see straight anymore. Anyone have directions to this place?[/QUOTE]From Dr Cave Beach walk towards the airport (away from downtown). Once you pass the 2nd ATM, you will see a couple of small grocery stores and a Digicell store. Close to these is a yellow building for the Montego Bay Institute of Technology. Walk towards this school and down the side street next to it. Turn left into the first opening in the fence. You will see a restaurant with a pool table (don't drink the Mannish Water!). Walk around the back of this building til you see a white door with a very small door bell with the words emergency written on it. This is the spot. Buzz and enter. Tell Chocolate I said "Hi".

GLORIOSA Hotel. Started off there as a lead in off of priceline; 93$ plus 15 for tax and service. Not good location for nighttime access to the hip strip, though it is very near and good ocean views. Restaurant and bar are worthless. Don't go there, though the place is girl friendly.

WEXFORD or whatever it's called. Girl at front desk eemed snobby and they had signs it seemed everywhere "NO UNREGISTERED GUESTS". Also, quoted me 145, 150 and 250 for different rooms and that they only had suites open. 30 minutes after that I was online and would have been able to book a room (cheapest) there at priceline for 93$). NO THANKS.

DALLEY's. LOL. This one has really got potential. It' s across street from Margueritaville a block or so to the east. The place is a knick knack tourist shop at ground level which is why I went in there. Owner lady I guess told a girl to show me rooms when I expressed interest after she offered. 2nd floor there are 8 or 10 rooms, showed me all, and not a single occupant. She said I could have my pick for 50$ (my first offer which she hungrily accepted). All rooms have AC and there is a side entrance 30 feet from the strip. I told her sure, that I would be right back after getting away from Gloriosa. Mamasan also said girls were no problem and you have your own key for access so def girl friendly

Montego Bay Resort. Just across street from DocCave beach entrance. Happened across the leasing office thinking it was a travel office. I think they are there 3 or 4 hours a day LOL. Got a 14th floor suite beautiful views, full kitchen and better condition then the room at Gloriosa for 70$ (and, sadly, Dalley's too, though you just aint going to beat Dalley on her price). Don't know if gf or not but they did pause when I asked about it so...

Short of a remarkable turnaround, the only saving grace for Jamaica is her beaches.

Railed a beautiful little MILF all through the nigth. She was very hot in my preverted opinion and I should be able to post pics when I go back to USA. After booting her this morning, I get one meet off of intro from a little girl acting like a high priced pro. She was beautiful but if I know one thing, a great 8 beats a shitty 10ish looking girl any day of the week. I'm not much into pros and I'm sure as hell not into high priced ones. When she commented 5000 Jamaican was "nothing", I got up and just left. I usually give taxi fare for a reject, but this girl did not rate.

My 3rd encounter today was another off introductions; she shows up over an hour late to my meet point and has a friend. She is a solid 7, but below my acceptable cutoff of 8. I tell the two of them "well. It's been a long day." when she prompts "but I thought we could do something". I tell her some other time. No taxi fare for you, either.

No loss; I'm here in part to recon for a little family reunion I will be bringing down later in the summer. Jamaica looks great for family etc. But Africa, this place is decidedly not.

Finally found Tropical Fantasy haha and it was well worth the 2000 jam dollar to get a 20 minute full body massage and then a nice protracted jerk off. Girl was named "fantastic" or fantastica and there were only 5 of them there to choose from a noon time. I visited Ocean view but only saw 2 girls and base price was 40 USD (compared to less than 25 USD at trop fantasy).

Being a Blue Light kind of guy, it was a no brainer. My masseuse looked a weak 8, doable, but when her clothes came off she had a lovely ass and pelvis and she was a solid 8 in my book. Well worth the 23 or 24$ to get a very relaxing massage and some fine sexual service IMO.

Disclaimer: I'm really not a parlor buff so some may not be happy with the selection at tropical fantasy, but seeing how laborious the local girls make it and the very fair price, it was a very nice distraction.

Just want to say that your report below is excellent on several levels. First, you made the effort to give us the details on girl friendly hotels and price and logistics of access (side entrance) Before I forget, check out the Rodan Guesthouse in Mandeville for easy girl friendly, especially the outside rooms that are outside the gate. Also, I like your distinction between the pros and the semi- pros and not wasting time or taxi fare on the pros. And finally, having lived in Africa for 6 years and been to Jamaica 9 times, you know the difference. The semi-pro is dying out in Jamaica thanks to 'development' but African is still the place to be for low cost, great sex.

[QUOTE=Pete Benetar; 1159336]GLORIOSA Hotel. Started off there as a lead in off of priceline; 93$ plus 15 for tax and service. Not good location for nighttime access to the hip strip, though it is very near and good ocean views. Restaurant and bar are worthless. Don't go there, though the place is girl friendly.

WEXFORD or whatever it's called. Girl at front desk eemed snobby and they had signs it seemed everywhere "NO UNREGISTERED GUESTS". Also, quoted me 145, 150 and 250 for different rooms and that they only had suites open. 30 minutes after that I was online and would have been able to book a room (cheapest) there at priceline for 93$). NO THANKS.

DALLEY's. LOL. This one has really got potential. It' s across street from Margueritaville a block or so to the east. The place is a knick knack tourist shop at ground level which is why I went in there. Owner lady I guess told a girl to show me rooms when I expressed interest after she offered. 2nd floor there are 8 or 10 rooms, showed me all, and not a single occupant. She said I could have my pick for 50$ (my first offer which she hungrily accepted). All rooms have AC and there is a side entrance 30 feet from the strip. I told her sure, that I would be right back after getting away from Gloriosa. Mamasan also said girls were no problem and you have your own key for access so def girl friendly.

Montego Bay Resort. Just across street from DocCave beach entrance. Happened across the leasing office thinking it was a travel office. I think they are there 3 or 4 hours a day LOL. Got a 14th floor suite beautiful views, full kitchen and better condition then the room at Gloriosa for 70$ (and, sadly, Dalley's too, though you just aint going to beat Dalley on her price). Don't know if gf or not but they did pause when I asked about it so.

Short of a remarkable turnaround, the only saving grace for Jamaica is her beaches.

Railed a beautiful little MILF all through the nigth. She was very hot in my preverted opinion and I should be able to post pics when I go back to USA. After booting her this morning, I get one meet off of intro from a little girl acting like a high priced pro. She was beautiful but if I know one thing, a great 8 beats a shitty 10ish looking girl any day of the week. I'm not much into pros and I'm sure as hell not into high priced ones. When she commented 5000 Jamaican was "nothing", I got up and just left. I usually give taxi fare for a reject, but this girl did not rate.

My 3rd encounter today was another off introductions; she shows up over an hour late to my meet point and has a friend. She is a solid 7, but below my acceptable cutoff of 8. I tell the two of them "well. It's been a long day." when she prompts "but I thought we could do something". I tell her some other time. No taxi fare for you, either.

No loss; I'm here in part to recon for a little family reunion I will be bringing down later in the summer. Jamaica looks great for family etc. But Africa, this place is decidedly not. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Interracial;1163519]Just want to say that your report below is excellent on several levels. First, you made the effort to give us the details on girl friendly hotels and price and logistics of access (side entrance) Before I forget, check out the Rodan Guesthouse in Mandeville for easy girl friendly, especially the outside rooms that are outside the gate. Also, I like your distinction between the pros and the semi- pros and not wasting time or taxi fare on the pros. And finally, having lived in Africa for 6 years and been to Jamaica 9 times, you know the difference. The semi-pro is dying out in Jamaica thanks to 'development' but African is still the place to be for low cost, great sex.[/QUOTE]I was at the El Greco over the weekend. One of the bellmen told me the rules regarding guests, but then added that the hotel was very discreet and "no one would know" if I were to have "a guest". I put this to the test and he was right. I think as long as you are discreet and don't splash around in the pool with them or make a lot of noise, they'll be none the wiser.

I am in MoBay now until the end of the month if anyone else is here. I am staying at Dalley's but will soon find a villa in Ironshore hopefully.

Bobsled Cafe.

They let you come in the AC and use it for free. I usually buy a coke for $2 and leave a big tip. The food is way too high to buy.

Wray and Nephew.

Halfway between downtown and Pork Pit.

St. James Library.

You can bring your laptop or sign up to use their desktops for free.

I would also like to add Island Grill to the best places to eat. It is right behind KFC / Pizza Hut. You can get a 1/4 jerk chicken. 2 festival, cole slaw, and soda for 400 JA (little less than 5 bucks)

[QUOTE=DustcloudC5;1163872]I was at the El Greco over the weekend. One of the bellmen told me the rules regarding guests, but then added that the hotel was very discreet and "no one would know" if I were to have "a guest". I put this to the test and he was right. I think as long as you are discreet and don't splash around in the pool with them or make a lot of noise, they'll be none the wiser.[/QUOTE]I stayed at the El Grecko years ago. I thought it was okay, except for two things: You had to use an elevator (that belonged to a condo unit) to get to the strip and it is very slow and hot! And the room air conditioner was noisy.

I would normally go to MoBay during the summer (usually Sumfest of July) , and then again at the end of the year. This year, I plan to go just in December.

I met a woman (here in vegas) who is from Eritrea. She took me to their 20th anniversary of independence and I was hooked! Those women are beyond fine.

I plan to go to Africa (for the first time) instead of 2 trips to MoBay. I went to the Eritrean board and they don't have a very active board. What they did have was informative though. One thing I like is that the dollar goes a long way. In Jamaica, the dollar doesn't go far. I like traveling to places where the dollar is strong, it makes me feel like I can do anything I want without worrying about the price.

I don't know how Jamaicans do it, I don't like the prices with the american dollar. I watch what I spend and I hate that, I probably give more in tips than the things I buy. I tip good because I know times are hard.

I can't wait to go to Eritrea. I did some history research and the Italians setup shop in 1890 and some left during WWII, but that was enough time to mix and mingle and produce a very beautiful bred of Eritrean women. Also, they are very nice people.

The one thing I found out in MoBay with the very beautiful women, they are never alone. You can meet them but its hard to win them over, because they have so many men waiting for them. Sometimes, you have to come out of pocket. I have been to Thailand and the PI and beauty is a dime a dozen, the women there don't have that same "I'm a queen" attitude. I guess you just have to travel and find that place that suits you.

On 2 seperate trips to Montego Bay, I've noticed a guy on the Hip Strip and figured that he might be a member of the board. I would love to talk to him about it, but if I am wrong that would be pretty embarassing.

He is an older white gentleman, kinda tall and skinny. I think he might wear glasses. No offense if you know him or are him, but he kinda reminds me of a character on the old Tekken video games, Dr. Boskonovitch.

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Ironshore, which is right around the corner, feels like a whole nother world from Bottom Road. It is more modern and I believe this is where richer Jamaicans live. I got a villa here and was walking from it to the casino when I noticed a thick girl walking in front of me. As she starts to cross the street, I do the same in order to get to the casino. She turns and asks jokingly,"why are you following me?" We laugh about it, walk together for awhile, and exchange numbers. I go play at the casino for a few hours and then call her. She invites me to her house in Ironshore. It is nice and not where you would expect a lot of these local girls to live and that is the beauty of Ironshore. She has the body of a 25 year old but I find out she is older. She has a much younger and prettier roommate, but she doesn't have as much ass. Plus this is a lesson I've learned here. Do not go for the prettiest chicks if you want real Jamaican sex for free. They've had everything handled to them, but the less attractive ones work for theirs.

This chick screwed me every which way but up, fed me, and let me stay the night. We showered together and had sex in the shower, the living room, and 2 of the 3 bedrooms her house has. The 3rd was the other chicks room and I thought I might have been picking up a 3-way vibe from them. I will let you know if that happens.

I told her I paid a driver 150 to take me to Nine Mile on my birthday. She said, fuck that! Tomorrow, rent a car for 3 days for that amount and I will personally drive you around this whole island for free. We start today. I will let you know how it goes.

Fun and Sun.

I'm not sure where we should thank you but damn good job on the guide. Some of us have not given up on the island. I myself plan to move there in a year and will be making 3-4 trips there up until that time.

You are the man.

[QUOTE=Loxxii; 1180933]Fun and Sun.

I'm not sure where we should thank you but damn good job on the guide. Some of us have not given up on the island. I myself plan to move there in a year and will be making 3-4 trips there up until that time.

You are the man.[/QUOTE]Thanks for that Loxxii. I still think that Jamaica is a great place when you start to figure out how it works. You're lucky to have the opportunity to move there, wish I could as well.

I work at the Tropical Fantacy massage center and although I am fairly new I would like to say thankyou to all of you gentlemen who have supported the girls here. I would also like to take this opportunity to let you know that all girls are not the same most of us do actually aim to please and I do not think its fair for you gentlemen to assume that we are all taking you for a ride. You have come before and I do wish that you will come again and, if you have not visited us before we do wish that you will soon. W / Tender touches Niomi.

[QUOTE=Niomi Handful;1205924]I work at the Tropical Fantacy massage center and although I am fairly new I would like to say thankyou to all of you gentlemen who have supported the girls here. I would also like to take this opportunity to let you know that all girls are not the same most of us do actually aim to please and I do not think its fair for you gentlemen to assume that we are all taking you for a ride. You have come before and I do wish that you will come again and, if you have not visited us before we do wish that you will soon. W / Tender touches Niomi.[/QUOTE]Pictures are better than words

I am a masseuse at tropical fantasy an in my opinion I think that we are the most talented in our field please come in and give us a try. Niomi.

[QUOTE=Bagra; 135091]Hey Guys,

I'm going to Jamaica in a few weeks. Please tell me which spot is the best. Montego Bay or Negril. Also, I need to know if the hotels are girl friendly. Also, do Jamaican women generally tend to have big round booties, or do they tend to be on the tall thin side? I'd appreciate any help on this matter.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Niomi Handful;1206280]I am a masseuse at tropical fantasy an in my opinion I think that we are the most talented in our field please come in and give us a try. Niomi.[/QUOTE]I will be in Mobay this December (7th-13th). I go there frequently, because my mother lives in Trelawny (and I looooove the women).

I do not have to do P4P whilst in Ja, but I do go to MP's for the sake of the members. I went to Oceanview and also when it was called Rejuvi.

I liked it, but I always wondered about the "US prices" menu, I wish I could see the Ja menu and see what is the difference. Good selection of girls with good attitude. If a monger is shy, he will do okay in the MP's.

Niomi, I would like to meet you personally and report back to this board. I usually stay at the Wexford, but this trip, I did a change of stay. I will be at the Holiday Inn Sunspree. I know you are not a member, so we cannot PM each other, but if you want, post the business number and I can call you at work. I am not trying to prove anything, so I won't be wild or disrespectful.

I have two cabbie friends in Mobay and they love taking me around. I like places that are busy with people. I hope its busy in Dec, at least on the property.

I will be in Mobay this week and I can't get in touch with Fun and Sun, because he is having fun in "our" favorite place-Thailand!

Hahaha, that's okay, he's still the man. I am posting now, because I will be busy preparing for the trip and I don't know if I will.

Have internet access during the trip. I will be at the Holiday SunSpree. The weather forecast doesn't look sunny, so I don't know.

How much off property mongering I will do. I do want to check out Tropical Fantasy if I can.

I hope they have a decent disco during the weekend. I don't expect the help to hang out with me, but I am sure they will find.

A friend who isn't doing anything. I remember they have a shuttle bus that takes people to the Hip Strip, the only thing is that.

They stop running about 10pm? That's one bad thing about not having a hotel on the strip, I won't be able to be out late to see.

If its happening on the strip or not. There are taxis that will drive people back to the Sunspree after the shuttle stops running but.

It will cost about 5x as much as the regular taxis cost.

I am back from Mobay and all I can say is what an adventure. I changed up this trip and went to the Holiday Inn Sunspree. The Wexford was my old hangout, but the "strip" is dying to me. I don't have a problem hooking up with women, its, what do I do after I.

Got my fill? The strip was cool back in the good old days, because you could walk it day and night (you still can, but its very boring there) and there would be people all over the place.

My first day there, I just had to go to Tropical Fantasy and see Niomi. She posted to the forum, but never answered back to members. I kind of knew the area, since I have gone there so much. I didn't know they had anything behind the building. My driver.

Came with me and when we got to the back, there was 3 ladies sitting outside eating and two standing up. I asked for Niomi and they said she wasn't there no one was talkative about Niomi, I had to ask every question about her and their answers didn't sound convincing. One woman asked if she could service me and I told her, no, Niomi knows how I like it (hehe). I can only say that none of the 5 women there were of my quality, I honestly would not have done any of them for free.

I decided to check out the strip while I was in the hood. Dead, very little foot traffic at 1pm. The Harley shop closed. I went to the Coral Cliffs-dead. I went to the Wex to get a brochure for Blue Mt bike tours and I saw my old hook-up bellman my old friend had quit, when I was there in March. I hung out with him in Dec 10' and one day he was showing me the pool area and I joked to him how nice it would be to have a woman poolside. He pulled out his phone and arranged for me to be with a girl.

I have never asked him for a woman for as long as I have known him. I realized how he could come in handy if I want a woman upon my arrival. I was glad to see him back and I tipped him $20 to keep him on the payroll. He was so happy he shook my hand twice. If anybody wants me to hook them up, PM me and I will call him with your info (hotel) Just make sure to take care of him.

The second day I was there, I was washing clothes and I met this Canadian woman. We hit it off and ended up spending the next two days together. It felt good to sleep all night with someone. I am single and enjoy that but that was a real break. I wanted to show off so I had my driver take us to Negril. It wasn't a big deal like I thought I don't like open shops and there were very few tourist for me. We stopped at Rick's Cafe and it wasn't busy (yet) it was 3pm.

It was nice to be with someone and not have to stop at the front desk and pay a chica Fee or worry about getting past security. The Holiday Inn was packed with women. I Loved it. There was one employee who worked at the front desk that I was really liking but I knew she was too young. She had the body I love and can hardly find in a Jamaican woman. I asked her if she worked at the Inn 4 years ago and she said she was still in high school! She's 19. Maybe if she was 22 or 23, but she still had a mature body. Her name is Knikea.

I sat in the lobby taking notes and I couldn't believe how many women were around I mean you could see them looking for a man, any man. This was at night, say 8pm and on. They were all around the bar (s). I thought they were providers at first because these women were seriously overdressed, then I thought they can't be because you need to be a guest to hangout. I looked for the wristbands and everybody had one!

This was my conclusion and why I will go back there again. There were families, couples and groups of girls and very few single guys (like me walking around). When I thought about it, how many of my male friends even have a passport? Its common for groups of women from the US to go there as "girlfriends". Of course, you could expect couples and families. Its a gold mine for single men. I only hooked up once, because I had got my fill with the girl I had met and its hard for me to get someone so soon after unless she is really fine or I do a 3some.

I wore my sunglasses a lot and I could see women looking at me and I even saw one women lean over to her friend and she looked over at me. We single men have a "captive" audience because no one is going off property at night and these girls come to f*k.

If I wasn't so picky, I could have had 2 or 3 women in the 5 days I was there. I just prefer to be with 8's or above unless its been a while and then I never sell myself out, I just lower myself to a 6 with a great personality and body.

I will say, the Jamaican women that I see in the departure areas is what I am looking for, but of course, I'm leaving. These women are more on that sophisticated level that I like. In most US airports, you can talk to the women whether you are coming or going, but in the Ja airport, when you arrive, you are shuttled right out of the airport, its only when you leave that you have access to these beauties.

If anyone wants contacts with my driver or bellman, PM.

I wanted to say that I used to stay at the Wexford and the things I didn't like about it was that they still use mechanical keys for their guest entry doors and they also use a mech key for their safes! They still have the old tube tv's with little channel selections, but for the Wexford, because of their great location, watching tv wasn't a big deal. You can walk up and down the strip all night, where in other places, it is not safe to walk around.

At the Holiday Inn, electronic room keys, electronic safes and they have flat screen tv's with a lot of channels and a few premium channels.

When I took my friend to Negril, I forgot to mention that we stopped at the Grand Palladium. I have never stayed there. It is an exclusive place. The front desk lady quoted me $295 for one day. I went to expedia and it was $264. I did a package air / hotel for 4 nights in May, and the GP was 833! The Holiday In was $1300 and another place that I have not been but was thinking about is Sunset Beach Waterpark. They are similar to Holiday inn but $300 cheaper. I was tempted to book the GP, because it is so was so cheap, but, its far from Mobay and I could see that the women were more stuck up. It seemed that it would be harder to meet someone at the GP. I could not believe the price was so cheap but its true, does anyone know if its a bad time to travel in May or something? I was thinking about staying at the Sunset because it is cheaper the Hi. I would miss that free wifi that Hi had all ober the property!

One year, I went during spring break and M'ville was packed! If you can find the right time to go when the strip is busy, then the Wexford would be the place to go. That is hit or miss though. I think one member who pointed out that a few hotels closed along the strip, which was feeding the foot traffic there. I saw Breezes was closed, That was a big hotel. For me, I will stick to the all-inclusives, because I know a lot of people are going to Ja and I think they are going to these types of hotels. Like I said before, people don't go anyplace at night so you have a captive audience.

The woman I met at Hi is from Ottawa. She says she has a business on york? I have her phone number. I don't want to visit her while its cold, so maybe she will come to my city. We talked about staying at the Grand Palladium. I could stay there if she goes. I wish I had thought of checking out Sunset while I was there. There was so much going on, I didn't think about it. I hope more people would go to Ja, its one of the nicer places to visit and easy to meet someone.

I am an experienced monger. I go frequently to CR occasionally to DR and to Thailand once a year at least. I have been to Montego Bay once for a vacation with the ex 15 years ago.

It looks like an interesting destination. I am a 48 y/o male in better than average shape.

I was hoping someone could give me the current scoop on girls and hotels.

What is the current places, prices, and times of day you can find girls?

I am usually an upscale hotel kinda giy but I want the best girl friendly hotel that is close to the action? Is it still the Wexford?

Any info would be helpful. I am thinking of going jan 13 to 16.

[QUOTE=Dr Travel Man; 1232499]I am an experienced monger. I go frequently to CR occasionally to DR and to Thailand once a year at least. I have been to Montego Bay once for a vacation with the ex 15 years ago.

It looks like an interesting destination. I am a 48 why / o male in better than average shape.

I was hoping someone could give me the current scoop on girls and hotels.

What is the current places, prices, and times of day you can find girls?

I am usually an upscale hotel kinda giy but I want the best girl friendly hotel that is close to the action? Is it still the Wexford?

Any info would be helpful. I am thinking of going jan 13 to 16.[/QUOTE]You can find quite a lot of helpful information about where to find girls, prices, locations, and so on in the guide I wrote back in July. This is pretty much up to date I think:

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3231-Fun-and-Sun-s-Guide-to-Montego-Bay-and-Negril[/url]

I would describe the venues that are girl friendly in Mo'Bay as three star hotels at best. I prefer Toby's Resort over the Wexford these days simply because of the Wexford management having an increasingly poor attitude towards our hobby and making up arbitrary visitor times and visitor policies.

I will be in Montego Bay in approx. One week. What are the chances of finding white "working girls"?

[QUOTE=John Firkin;1252883]I will be in Montego Bay in approx. One week. What are the chances of finding white "working girls"?[/QUOTE]Approximately zero. However, there are usually plenty of tourist girls looking for a vacation romance. Most want some "black bamboo" but some are looking for more familiar fun.

Pogo

Thanks for the response. That is unfortunate! I have about $500 to blow but am picky about what I like / want.

[QUOTE=Pogostick; 1253370]Approximately zero. However, there are usually plenty of tourist girls looking for a vacation romance. Most want some "black bamboo" but some are looking for more familiar fun.

Pogo[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=John Firkin;1254869]Thanks for the response. That is unfortunate! I have about $500 to blow but am picky about what I like / want.[/QUOTE]Jamaica is a predominantly black country. There are whites and Asians that are in Jamaica but in general they are from the upper or higher middle classes, decently educated and employed so they have no need to turn tricks to survive. The only P4P action you will find is black. (all girls are pink on the inside!)

Try a Jamaican and you might be very pleasantly surprised. They can be hotter than hell in the sack. It's like going to Thailand and looking for a good burger or pizza instead of trying the local flavors. I find that part of the fun of the hobby is trying different types of girls. Some of my best experiences were with girls I am not normally attracted to.

If you want light skin in the Caribbean you'll have to hit St Maarten, Aruba or Curacao. Some of the Colombianas that work in the legal brothels are white, but speaking Spanish will help a lot. If you want white in Jamaica, hit Margaritaville and pick up a nice tourist for free. Save the $500 for tours and ganja.

Have fun.

Pogo

I will be going to MB soon for a few weeks or more does anyone know of a Condo or Apartment available.

Where's all the juicy info & pics for jamaica.

I need a quick price quote.

ST 1-2 hr for a girl in jamaica.

All niter for girl.

Where can I find some nice beauties ready to please meee?

[QUOTE=Fun And Sun;1232748]You can find quite a lot of helpful information about where to find girls, prices, locations, and so on in the guide I wrote back in July. This is pretty much up to date .[/QUOTE]Decent of you to take the time to do this. As first-time visitor, the distinctions between girls can't really be made beyond the obvious, but one thing is for sure: Jamaican girls are easy to get. Just start talking to any cute one who looks good to you. Amazing that more people are not going to this country. Even though it's run down and down-market, long past anything near a cutting edge hip travel destination, and to all appearances nil US corporate investment since the 80s (so off radar that Chinese development bank signs can be seen, like in Africa). Hotels sub-international standard. Prices were on par or less than the other ex-english places in the Caribbean, although with minimarts and stores being mostly run by subcontinentals expect gouging and poor goods. Other things: walk around and everyone will offer to walk or drive you to a massage place 24/7. Moods is full of jumbo-sized entertainers, unless you're blamerican wide as you are tall, no reason to be there. Everywhere girls young, cute just so willing and wanting to have fun in this place.

I bumped into one very sexy Jamaican girl one night at moods. Says her name is Barbie.

[url]http://www.montegobayescorts.com/galleries/misspink/misspink.html[/url]

Phenonomal body, like a real black barbie, perfect for sex. 19 years old and tight.

At the club she was dancing better than the strippers, one of them even took a liking to her. Jamaican girls dancing is very provocative to say the least so I was pretty worked up and had to take her back to the hotel. Before we got down to it she was teasing, bending over and rubbing up against me, made me want to fuck her so badly.

We did every position / angel, she got on top of me and fucked me like a cowgirl, she came in that position and couldn't stop shaking, so hot.

Really hot!

Get in there before she becomes jaded like some of the older ones.

[QUOTE=Excitedrod;1361942]I bumped into one very sexy Jamaican girl one night at moods. Says her name is Barbie.[/QUOTE]I am Happy you enjoyed your experience.

[QUOTE=Infamous Man; 1301176]I need a quick price quote.

All niter for girl.

Where can I find some nice beauties ready to please meee?[/QUOTE]I was told that would cost as low as $165 depending on area & girl.

What's going on fellas? Is Kingston and Jamaica that dead? Going to MoBay next month, maybe a day or two in Kingston, would love some intel on Escorts or Incall locations at either place.

X-Quiz-It is now closed. Finished.

From the lack of reports here, my impression is that Jamaica is not much of a mongering destination. That was also my impression after a recent visit. I'm a Latin American fan and have enjoyed the chicas in many countries there, but last week my work brought me to Jamaica, and I had a little free time at the beginning and end of my work week to look for some action. I stayed at the Wexford Hotel in Montego Bay on my first and last nights. The large signs in the hotel that said registered guests only and the security wrist bands seemed to indicate that this is no longer a girl friendly place, but I didn't try so can't say for sure. Having only a little free time, and using the previous post from a few years ago, I made the 10 minute walk to the closest massage place. The landmarks have changed a bit, but the directions were good enough to get me there.

Here's my update to what was previously posted. From the Wexford Hotel or Margaritaville, walk east on the main drag towards the airport for about 10 minutes. Look for the Saint James Shopping Center, not a big place, on the left side of the street. Almost directly across the street from this shopping plaza is a side street heading south away from the ocean. On the corner of this side street is a store called Strawberrys with an obvious sign. Head down this street about 100 feet. On the left side will be an obvious entrance to a large open area that resembles a parking lot. As noted in the previous report, there is a shack like restaurant on the left and a similar place with an obvious pool table on the right. Continue straight ahead past the pool table and you'll see an unmarked white door on the right. There's a buzzer on the left side of the door. This is the place.

With all that said, depending on your tastes, it may not be worth your while, unless you're really horny. The whole scene might be a bit too seedy for some, but it's doable. I was there on two consecutive Mondays, once about 4 PM and once about 9 PM. The selection was poor to say the least. Mostly fattish unattractive chicks. However, there was one slim thing that I liked. Amy was 20 and had a reasonably cute face, but her main asset was an athletically tight body with perky B cup tits, an excellent firm ass, and super smooth, light chocolate skin. If she wasn't there, I would have been out the door. My general expectations for service were on the low side, but I was pleasantly surprised. I got her to go for BBBJ, which was quite good, and a little LFK. We fucked in multiple positions with repeats. Not an outstanding performance, but better than I was expecting, and she had a very wet and tight pussy that felt great. The room plus girl was probably overpriced for some, but I can afford it and didn't care. I negotiated a bit and the hour cost about $100 US. I had a good enough time to repeat with her my last night.

Of course I couldn't walk more than 100 feet on the main drag without some guy trying to stop me to offer a taxi, tourist items, ganja, etc. In the afternoon and at 10 at night I felt safe enough. After 10 PM there were a handful of girls on the street offering their services. None were as good looking as Amy. For me this was just a matter of an easy convenient fuck with a decent girl. If you've sampled Brazil, Colombia, Ecuador, Panama, or even Mexico, Jamaica IMHO is not a place I'd ever think of as a mongering destination.

[QUOTE=Viajero11;1544557]From the lack of reports here, my impression is that Jamaica is not much of a mongering destination. If you've sampled Brazil, Colombia, Ecuador, Panama, or even Mexico, Jamaica IMHO is not a place I'd ever think of as a mongering destination.[/QUOTE]I first started going to Jamaica in 1998 when my mother retired there. I'm half jamaican half cuban.

I have so many great memories of that place. The Wexford was my second home, every time I visited my mom, I would stay at the "Wex".

I loved the location, there is a nightclub on the left-forgot the name but you could get hookups there. M'ville used to be packed with young people. It's gone now, The Coral Cliff was the place for me. There is another casino there that took over the cliff, I was in Mobay July of 2013, they had changed quick because I was in Mobay dec of 2012 for my mother's funeral and the cliff was still there.

I went back last July for the last time. I wanted to video tape the memories. The "Hip strip" used to be. They had the Jamaican bobsled restaurant and other shops that closed. When Breezes, which was a very large hotel closed, it was to me, the strip was dying.

I always went during July for the Sumfest. That is why I went last July. The strip was dead. That was unheard of, back in the day. There were more tourist police than tourist. What I think happened was that a lot of people started doing the all-inclusive tours. I started staying at the Sunset Beach all-inclusive in the last visits to the island, it was easier on my mom. It was always packed and you could meet tourist or ask one of the girls working at the hotel if she has a friend (they always did).

I did MP's, but they moved around like the shell game, always had to ask taxi guys I knew. Never did street girls. Back in the days at the Wex, you could stand out front and get propositioned all night, was good for the ego. I was staying at the Wex before they built that over priced suites in the back. The last time I stayed at the Wex was maybe 4 years now, they charged me an expensive chica fee, but I had to do it, got her all the way over there, couldn't turn back, ask about visitors.

I am done with Jamaica, it could be fun, but I don't where it is, things have changed. If I am going to that area (caribe) , I would go back to the Dominican.

[QUOTE=Thaijuan14;1545059]I first started going to Jamaica in 1998 when my mother retired there. I'm half jamaican half cuban.

I have so many great memories of that place. The Wexford was my second home, every time I visited my mom, I would stay at the "Wex".

I loved the location, there is a nightclub on the left-forgot the name but you could get hookups there. M'ville used to be packed with young people. It's gone now, The Coral Cliff was the place for me. There is another casino there that took over the cliff, I was in Mobay July of 2013, they had changed quick because I was in Mobay dec of 2012 for my mother's funeral and the cliff was still there.

I went back last July for the last time. I wanted to video tape the memories. The "Hip strip" used to be. They had the Jamaican bobsled restaurant and other shops that closed. When Breezes, which was a very large hotel closed, it was to me, the strip was dying.

I always went during July for the Sumfest. That is why I went last July. The strip was dead. That was unheard of, back in the day. There were more tourist police than tourist. What I think happened was that a lot of people started doing the all-inclusive tours. I started staying at the Sunset Beach all-inclusive in the last visits to the island, it was easier on my mom. It was always packed and you could meet tourist or ask one of the girls working at the hotel if she has a friend (they always did).

I did MP's, but they moved around like the shell game, always had to ask taxi guys I knew. Never did street girls. Back in the days at the Wex, you could stand out front and get propositioned all night, was good for the ego. I was staying at the Wex before they built that over priced suites in the back. The last time I stayed at the Wex was maybe 4 years now, they charged me an expensive chica fee, but I had to do it, got her all the way over there, couldn't turn back, ask about visitors.

I am done with Jamaica, it could be fun, but I don't where it is, things have changed. If I am going to that area (caribe) , I would go back to the Dominican.[/QUOTE]Can you help me with mobay girls? I will be going there to board my flight. I will be going a day prior to my morning flight. In this small gap help me get a girl for an hour or two? How to get one and were to go a place free of danger. And whom to ask and what would be the rates. Please help.

I arrived yesterday. I'm an 30 year old guy from Europe. I'm looking for Jamaican women. Is there anybody here at the moment who will join me? Please message me.

Just typed a whole trip report but my computer shut down so if you have any questions pm me. My friends suggested that I wear a chain and bracelet and although apprehensive gave it a shot and wow, had the girls coming and dance near me and staring me down. Stayed at the Palladium and I would eating at the buffet and look up and find a few eyes on me staring at my fake gold chain and watch. They would approach me all over to have small talk and I could not believe how a little jewelry made Jamaican girls go nuts but they automatically think you are a big spender and want to be in your company. I went on the 10th and returned today and bed 8 women all between 18 to 27 without a deep conversation but simple talk. I had the taxi driver take me to a few places in the city and I tell you it was like a magic, the women came and danced right next to me even grinding me. I suggest to all to try but stay in your comfort zone because I was not a believer trust me but it made the work so much easier having their Krytonite. A gringo with local style. I fingered 3 chicks in broad daylight at the pool and beach. Good luck gents.

[QUOTE=Hotfurnace;1608316]Just typed a whole trip report but my computer shut down so if you have any questions pm me. My friends suggested that I wear a chain and bracelet and although apprehensive gave it a shot and wow, had the girls coming and dance near me and staring me down. Stayed at the Palladium and I would eating at the buffet and look up and find a few eyes on me staring at my fake gold chain and watch. They would approach me all over to have small talk and I could not believe how a little jewelry made Jamaican girls go nuts but they automatically think you are a big spender and want to be in your company. I went on the 10th and returned today and bed 8 women all between 18 to 27 without a deep conversation but simple talk. I had the taxi driver take me to a few places in the city and I tell you it was like a magic, the women came and danced right next to me even grinding me. I suggest to all to try but stay in your comfort zone because I was not a believer trust me but it made the work so much easier having their Krytonite. A gringo with local style. I fingered 3 chicks in broad daylight at the pool and beach. Good luck gents.[/QUOTE]You need get a paid membership so I can PM you.

$20 well spent IMHO.

Hot Furnace it would be nice to read your reports.

Things like where to stay, what clubs were hot, things like that.

My plan is to visit the end of this month.

Does anyone know some girl friendly budget hotels?

Yeh Mon.

Send me a PM if anybody will be in MoBay Feb 1- 8th.

I have not been to Jamaica in many years. But I can tell you that many, many very attractive Jamaican women are now working in several clubs that have sprung up on Barbados. See that thread for reports. It is becoming a new mongering destination for me. This is a recent development.

[QUOTE=Scubatoo;1689506]I have not been to Jamaica in many years. But I can tell you that many, many very attractive Jamaican women are now working in several clubs that have sprung up on Barbados. See that thread for reports. It is becoming a new mongering destination for me. This is a recent development.[/QUOTE]What does Barbados offer you besides possible slight mongering potential?

Do you love the island have some other reason to be there?

[QUOTE=Rjsss212;1703648]What does Barbados offer you besides possible slight mongering potential?

Do you love the island have some other reason to be there?[/QUOTE]In the past, you did not pick Barbados as a mongering destination by any stretch. But you did pick it for beautiful beaches, great restaurants, scuba diving and other interests. With many new clubs opening, it is now a place where you can have some great times with a lot of very attractive women from around the region. Those who do not wish to travel to Jamaica, but have an interest in meeting some very attractive Jamaican women, now can do so in Barbados clubs. This is my point. Not sure what yours is.

Within 1 hour of landing in Mobay, I was enjoying a very nice massage.

I merely asked a rental car attendant and he directed me to Upper Queens Road. It is appropriately named Heavens Delight. Formerly Rejuvenation Massage. There are a few older posts about it. There where 14 women working with several massage options available. I started with Sensual massage ($40 with he), but just from talking, FS and CBJ are always available. There are several postings in newspapers with much lower rates. It was also Emancipation and Independence Holidays, so the parks where jam-packed with women of all flavors.

I spent most of the week with a couple beauties I met on a popular cam site. Once they found out I was coming they nearly begged to stay with me. Needless to write, the week is nearly over and I need to hydrate. These women will go all night. No money was exchanged, but I did take them to Pizza Hut and KFC. It was a great week. I will return over the Christmas holiday for some more fun. It will take me that long to recover. LOL.

I am finding more Jamaican women on cam sites. During my most recent trip, my recreational schedule was "pre-booked" with ladies I met online. I only handed out a total of $100 between two ladies and only because I was asked for help. The other four were merely fun, food, and drinks.

I am returning in December and have a more ladies ready to meet. The difficult task now is keeping them on the line and interested.

Stay safe.

Please post the contacts so the rest of us can join in the fun. Did you get anal from any of them? Don't pay more than $50 a pop please. You will spoil things for the rest of us.

[QUOTE=Cyan001;1774613]I am finding more Jamaican women on cam sites. During my most recent trip, my recreational schedule was "pre-booked" with ladies I met online. I only handed out a total of $100 between two ladies and only because I was asked for help. The other four were merely fun, food, and drinks.

I am returning in December and have a more ladies ready to meet. The difficult task now is keeping them on the line and interested.

Stay safe.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Cyan001;1774613]I am finding more Jamaican women on cam sites. During my most recent trip, my recreational schedule was "pre-booked" with ladies I met online. I only handed out a total of $100 between two ladies and only because I was asked for help. The other four were merely fun, food, and drinks.

I am returning in December and have a more ladies ready to meet. The difficult task now is keeping them on the line and interested.

Stay safe.[/QUOTE]Just wondering where online?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=PackerDonger;1779336]Just wondering where online?

Thanks![/QUOTE]I've had good results in Jamaica on Adult Friend Finder. I've had 4 encounters and every one of them was free of cost other than maybe dinner or a drink.

Each time in Jamaica I stayed at a Resort which was Good. But I found only several willing to risk an off premise adventure at a safe location. Dinner as room service, and $30-50, and drink, and alot of Respect, got me almost the whole night.

They can't risk being seen in public with the resort guest off location, unless they get permission.

Plus the Room Guy's have a side deal with safe local girl at about the same rate for #3-4+/- hours.

They deal with good friends, and Trusted relatives.

But, Never Ever Let Your Guard Down. Leave a note of everything and where in your room just in case. Then burn it once you return. Take only enough money as needed, and put your cell phone & money in the room safe.

Of course you need to use a taxi, not sitting at the resort. They will know what's up. Then the Girl is at risk. If you use the taxi to get you girls your going to get ripped off money wise.

I posted this because I only told it word of mouth, to friends Only.

If You Have a Better Method, than Disregard Mine, and Use Yours. Or Post Yours!

Hello to the mongers of the Caribbean!

My work trip upcoming to Jamaica will now involve 1 night in MoBay. Staying at Secrets. Very interested in a recommendation for a Semi-pro or Quarter-pro or how to obtain the same. Any recommendations / contacts / updated advice via PM would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Huntz.

Folks,

It has been 4 days now in Montego Bay for me. I am not living at a resort but at one of the AirBnB properties and hence absolutely need a car.

First few days were a disaster as I wasted time with a Ukrainian hippie chick whom I met on Russian Cupid (a russian dating site in case the censor board deletes the site name). She basically made me spend money on drinks and food and other things but we never made it to the bedroom. What a ROB.

One of the things that I learnt quickly is that there seems to be no mongering or escort scene easily available in Montego Bay. None that I know of.

So I adapted quickly. Tinder dates are plentiful and so are other websites. The problem is that these girls are not working women and hence you need game. The tricky part is offering them money. I offered some women an allowance with politically correct words but I managed to offend most of them. For example one woman who was really into me said "I am not selling anything". So my attempt to seal the deal misfired. She refused to talk to me etc. But these women are by and large honest and looking for a good time. Kinda dumb for them to turn down money.

One girl I met says she is a massage therapist in Negril and she came down to meet me for lunch. Immediately after, we went to my place and I initiated hugging and kissing. She was uncomfortable and said she won't have sex 'today at least'. This I took as a sign of saying no. So I had nothing to lose so I made her an offer of a weekly allowance of around $350 USD. (yeah $50 per full day). Not a lot for Americans but a truckload for her. She said she would like to think about it. She took 5 minutes to work up the courage, made a trip to the bathroom and then came back and took her clothes off saying "Ok let's do it". Then she gave me very good BBBJ but I was not in the mood for sex at that moment. I t was available covered. Finished in 15 min and I paid her a day's worth of cash - 6000 Jamaican dollars or so.

Next day a Tinder lunch date that went very well and she said she wanted to meet later in the week due to her day job. Another 19 year old girl is a stunning beauty and is game for sex and romance (with no mention of money yet) and she is running for Miss Jamaica (so she says). But she showed me some pics of her competitions and press clippings of state level beauty pageants she has won and spoke of her modeling contracts etc. I believe her. The monger in me is not interested as it seems like a lot of work. She has invited me to go with her to a beauty pageant on the weekend and I will see if I go.

Now for the stunner: I met the perfect girl. She is so awesome in bed and at BBBJ CIM it is not funny. She is quite easily the best lay I ever had. Also extremely attractive body like porn star Brittney White. I am in love with this woman and I am cranking out multiple loads back to back with her (usually I can come only once a day). She is a keeper and we began our relationship without the explicit agreement on money. But I told her I would take care of her and she also said it would be appreciated. I am going to pay her a handsome amount each week but that is solely at my discretion.

I had heard that Jamaican women are great in bed. I must say they are. Not visually in the same league as women from Colombia, Korea, China, India, Ukraine etc. But in the sex department both the 2 women I slept with are quite outstanding. Will report back on additional details here as my trip progresses.

But here are a few tips for hunting normal girls in Jamaica at least I see them:

1) Girls love music. FM 105.7 especially is a panty peeler.

2) Girls love drinks here. Appleton Rum is cheap and universally loved. Do not try to impress them with other drinks. If Appleton brings a smile to their face, go with it. Try it yourself as it is pretty good.

3) Do not be aggressive. Guys in Jamaica are in general very aggressive. That's what I hear the girls complain about a lot. Be nice, be polite, be a gentleman. That's what seemed to work for me.

4) Girls are offended when you offer money. Bar none. So you really need to find a way to bring that into the mix without treating her as an escort.

5) Offering to pay for their taxi is a good move. It also gives you the chance to to offer more money as you pay her. "I am sure you like shopping. I will take care of you" is a decent proxy to offer her future money for sex. Maybe you can come up with better lines, but this is what I came up with in a crunch. And it worked.

6) There are nightclubs. I am told these are good places to pick up women on the spot. Pier 1 is what a girl told me. I will report more later but know that nightclub party venues change every night. So you need to ask around especially if you are headed to the hip strip. If you are into Europeans and white girls this is the only venue to pick them up.

Best luck. Please add your reports and knowledge to this barren Montego Bay thread. With so much quality cooncha in Jamaica, we need to spread the word to fellow mongers. It is our duty.

[QUOTE=HuntzMan;2037509]Hello to the mongers of the Caribbean!

My work trip upcoming to Jamaica will now involve 1 night in MoBay. Staying at Secrets. Very interested in a recommendation for a Semi-pro or Quarter-pro or how to obtain the same. Any recommendations / contacts / updated advice via PM would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Huntz.[/QUOTE]Ask for massage outside the resort. It usually implies happy endings at least. My massage girl gave me straight sex with condom but I declined.

[QUOTE=MSClive;2039358]Ask for massage outside the resort. It usually implies happy endings at least. My massage girl gave me straight sex with condom but I declined.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your postings. Great information, and I wish I could stay longer to make use of it.

Going to ask one the male workers at Secrets where I can go off property for a massage. See where that goes.

Wish you luck with Ms. Jamaica!

Huntz.

Anybody knows if the women on backpage in Mobay are legit or cons.

I'd put my last clean outfit on before heading to the airport in Panama. After missing my flight & planning an alternative escape via Jamaica, I was still wearing the same clothes as I arrived in Montego Bay 2 days later. After banging 3 Panama escorts the day before, I'd only gotten 2 hours of sleep before I was rudely awakened by my alarm. I was a right mess as I arrived in Jamaica. :o After doing my laundry, exploring a little of the Strip and getting a McDonald's meal, I fell asleep at 8.30 PM, as my bed was covered with clothes lying out to dry.

By then, I'd already gotten a match on Tinder. :) I'd chatted with Miss S before dozing off last night. As I woke up early morning, I'd received a WhatsApp message. Even though Miss S lived in Savanna-la-Mar in Westmoreland (over 50km from Montego Bay), she was willing to hop on a bus to visit me. :D I dozed off again, dreaming of my 1st Jamaican girl.

I met Miss S on the Strip at 11 AM. After drinks at touristy & expensive Margaritaville, we walked to my apartment. I was staying at The Garden Suites, an apartment complex that's part of the El Greco resort. Great location. No reception. Perfectly girl-friendly. ;)

Miss S was a 21 yo cutie from the countryside. Super skinny. No kids. Her favorite activity was chilling & smoking weed, while enjoying the ocean view from my balcony. Typical Jamaican, I guess. When I got my camera out, Miss S was happy to pose for pictures. Getting into her panties proved to be more of a challenge. ;)

As Miss S was lying on the bed, still fully dressed, I tried to remove her panties to taste her pink pussy. Not allowed! :p I eventually managed to get my head between her legs anyway. :) Miss S loved how my tongue caressed her clit, but making her cum was a tall order. Even when my arm went numb, Miss S wouldn't allow me to stop. Finally giving Miss S the big O she was yearning, earned me the right to enter the bat cave. :D Miss S was passive in bed, so I just drilled & drilled until I found a gusher. :)

Miss S couldn't spend the night. Money was never discussed. Before she left, Miss S asked for transport money. I gave her 6000 JMD. She didn't count the bills. ;)

[B]Jamaica added. Country #79.[/B]

Loso

I normally do extensive pre-trip research. Since visiting Mobay was a spur of the moment decision, I hadn't done any research on Jamaica. Reading up on ISG, I found there actually wasn't much of a P4P scene in Mobay. :eek: Good thing I'd already gotten laid. :D Since it was Friday, Pier 1 was an option. But the reports mentioning Pier 1 were old and the taxi mafia was a deterrent. I passed.

On Tinder, I chatted with Lauryn (26) from Kingston, who had ginormous hooters. She was looking for mature & generous men, willing to shell out 150 USD / hour. Another girl offered 2-3 hours of "massage" service for 250 USD. :eek:

Without any other prospects, I invited Miss S to visit me again on my final day in Mobay. Just after Miss S accepted my invitation, I got a match with Lee Lee on Tagged. Isn't that how it always goes? :p Anyway, Lee Lee lived in town, but wasn't available in the evening, as she took care of her grandmother. She wanted to hang out the next day, but I already had a date with Miss S. ;)

Miss S was her usual, lazy self. I did get a BBBJ on our 2nd date. She even tried deep throating me, which made her gag. :p I also managed to get Miss S in the cowgirl position, but I still had to do all the work. :p Miss S spending the night denied me a chance to meet Lee Lee. It's a shame I didn't get to experience the sexual acrobatics described in Fun & Sun's reports, but at least I got laid. :)

Meeting girls on dating sites like Tagged takes time. I was still getting matches weeks after I got home. I highly recommend setting up contacts before you arrive. ;)

Loso

Yikes. I haven't been to Jamaica in years and never paid for it there. Met a shop girl in MoBay who shacked up with me in Port Maria (East coast) for a few days. It's a non-touristy place. Casa Mari was the name of the hotel Gorgeous place. For those with the means can visit all-inclusive Hedonism in MoBay or Negril. I went to the one in Negril. Nice. You cannot not get laid there because the chicks are international and horny. Cheers. Bob Marley RIP.

[QUOTE=Loso69;2072638]She was looking for mature & generous men, willing to shell out 150 USD / hour. Another girl offered 2-3 hours of "massage" service for 250 USD. :[/QUOTE].

Hi all,

Does anyone have any recommendations for safe, clean, cheap rooms in Mobay? I am not looking for an all-inclusive resort. LOL. Just something for an afternoon of fun. Thanks for any help.

[QUOTE=Cyan001;2089321]Hi all,

Does anyone have any recommendations for safe, clean, cheap rooms in Mobay? I am not looking for an all-inclusive resort. LOL. Just something for an afternoon of fun. Thanks for any help.[/QUOTE]Any hotel on the Hip Strip is safe and fun. Dr's Cave is clean safe and cheap. However, bringing girls in might be a challenge. There's another one at the end of the strip going towards the airport just before you make that right. I have stayed there no problems with chicas.

Peace.

Quick update on Mobay scene. Ocean view massage (beside red stripe sign) still open. Only 2 girls there when I visited and I was told it's usually just 3, much quieter than days gone by. Building looks deserted and they took a while to answer door so don't be discouraged too quickly. One slim pretty dark skin girl and one busty thick brown (maybe bleached) girl.

Menu seems to be same as referred to in past. Priced in USD but if you pay in JMD the exchange rate is very favourable. Negotiations in room were reasonable. FS wasn't discussed but CBJ was.

Just some useful info. The MP referred to in my previous post is accommodating if you need a basic room to hook up with a girl you find elsewhere. Just JMD 1500 for an hour so comparable to the "fuckshop" type guesthouses that are scattered around Kingston but are notably missing from Mobay.

[QUOTE=RealKewl;2089496]Any hotel on the Hip Strip is safe and fun. Dr's Cave is clean safe and cheap. However, bringing girls in might be a challenge. There's another one at the end of the strip going towards the airport just before you make that right. I have stayed there no problems with chicas.

Peace.[/QUOTE]Hi,

Anyone have recommendation for a chica friendly hotel in hip strip and negril.

Appreciate your help.

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Hey guys,

Coming to mobay? Want to have some fun?? Great personality awesome sex and whatever else you want to do in between. Great rate. Contact me for details.

[QUOTE=RealKewl;2089496]Any hotel on the Hip Strip is safe and fun. Dr's Cave is clean safe and cheap. However, bringing girls in might be a challenge. There's another one at the end of the strip going towards the airport just before you make that right. I have stayed there no problems with chicas.

Peace.[/QUOTE]I think this guy might be talking about Toby's Resort, which is quite a decent, moderate cost hotel with swimming pool and short walk to a couple of beaches.

I think you just pay an overnight fee for the girl, no hassle really. I don't recall the cost. You can also do that at the El Greco and I assume (but have not tested) the other independent hotels along the Strip.

GT.

I'm a newly returning local and am curious what the scene around Montego Bay looks like. Where do people go for sex that's safe? I know there's Moodz and action available streetside on the Strip but is there anywhere more discrete? I see a few posts about Ocean View and I'll prob take a chance and knock on their door one day but would love to know if they're still active. Will also give the Tinder scene a look.

Would love to soak up some more knowledge from you guys! Cheers!

[QUOTE=MobayGent;2275636]I'm a newly returning local and am curious what the scene around Montego Bay looks like. Where do people go for sex that's safe? I know there's Moodz and action available streetside on the Strip but is there anywhere more discrete? I see a few posts about Ocean View and I'll prob take a chance and knock on their door one day but would love to know if they're still active. Will also give the Tinder scene a look.

Would love to soak up some more knowledge from you guys! Cheers![/QUOTE]I have been here a few months and the scene is fairly good, depending on your game.

I have not used P4 P because I don't need to and the options on the strip are not enchanting. But probably there are many other places to get better quality or at least more choice. I am guessing Rehab bar or the Brewery (just down from Margaritaville will have options, but I confess to not having been there. Ditto with the strip club behind Rehab (Moods? On special event nights at Margaritaville (Thursday and Saturday) there are usually a couple of pros hanging around (you can tell because they are standing alone, looking around) who are not bad looking. I've also seen girls at the bar at Pier 1 who look pretty approachable, but I don't know if they are pros or just looking to get laid.

I don't pursue pro options because the non-pro market is pretty vibrant. Tinder and Tagged are good sources, so are the above-mentioned bars. I have essentially been picked up (invited to join "normal" girls) at Pier 1 and elsewhere, and I am a "much older" gentleman.

The girls here are desperate to find an affluent boyfriend and to have some fun in their lives. Often they cannot go out because they lack a few dollars to buy drinks or even the cab fare. So you can get a lot of mileage out of "lifestyle.

Enhancements" if you want to avoid paying outright. Take a girl out to dinner at any nice place and she will be taking photos like mad to put on her social media to show her friends she is really living. Personally, this irritates me, but its what they get out of the date, so I live with it.

In my experience, even with non-pros, you end up having to pay for it (nothing is free in life, especially not girls). Depending on your relationship and what else you bring to the table this could be minor sums for "taxi fare" or phone top-ups, or buying them a present or giving them the funds to buy it themselves, or a fairly straightforward cash gift or $50 or $100 (for overnight). You might not want to go the straight cash route, but frankly I don't know how you could avoid the taxi money or top-up gifts. Most girls have nothing (even if they are working) and it is in your interest that they be able to communicate with you and take a taxi to meet you.

So coming back to Montego Bay but hired to do some work involving Sandals resort Montego Bay and will be mostly staying on property. Wondering if anyone has had luck getting some FS entertainment while staying at the resort. Most of the reports seem to involve venturing out. I see some mention asking staff at the resort. I'm down but given the work relationship have to be selective. Any info is most appreciated.

WordUp,

I was hoping you (or someone else in this thread) Might have some suggestions for me. I'm headed back to Mobay in a week or so and staying at the Sandals resort. I'm staying there because I am doing work with them and they are comping everything but its generally a couple only spot. Went once prior for this and staying there alone blows, so I was hoping to pull from the local talent for some personal entertainment but they (the resort) seem kind of closed off. Anyone have experience with this? Suggestions? The staff seem eager to accommodate and I suspect even some might be interested themselves but any help is appreciated.

[QUOTE=Beardedbeast;2303737]WordUp,

I was hoping you (or someone else in this thread) Might have some suggestions for me. I'm headed back to Mobay in a week or so and staying at the Sandals resort. I'm staying there because I am doing work with them and they are comping everything but its generally a couple only spot. Went once prior for this and staying there alone blows, so I was hoping to pull from the local talent for some personal entertainment but they (the resort) seem kind of closed off. Anyone have experience with this? Suggestions? The staff seem eager to accommodate and I suspect even some might be interested themselves but any help is appreciated.[/QUOTE]I just got done with my vacation here. If you are staying at the Sandals Montego Bay, my recommendation is to hit up either the bar by the beach in late afternoon or the piano bar at night. Try to aim to be there during non-busy hours. Make friends with the staff and make it clear you are staying there alone. I made several connections among the staff and there are some offerings on the resort. Be warned though, I was quoted some high prices sometimes so you'll need to negotiate the price down.

[QUOTE=Bruges;2305642]I just got done with my vacation here. If you are staying at the Sandals Montego Bay, my recommendation is to hit up either the bar by the beach in late afternoon or the piano bar at night. Try to aim to be there during non-busy hours. Make friends with the staff and make it clear you are staying there alone. I made several connections among the staff and there are some offerings on the resort. Be warned though, I was quoted some high prices sometimes so you'll need to negotiate the price down.[/QUOTE]So the options were actual staff than? That could be interesting. Thanks for the tip.

Spent 3 days in mobay. Definitely not a mongering destination, if you hadn't figured that out by the inactivity on this forum. I primarily travel for normal tourist reasons but we do like to monger or pick up locals on our trips. No real luck in mobay. Margaritaville is a fun bar middle of the hip strip with a slide that goes into the sea, some water games. Thursdays it's absolutely packed, many women tourists and locals. Spoke to a girl across the street at a different bar who was waiting for 11 to enter as it's free for ladies after 11. The atmosphere was like a us night club.

Friday night Margaritaville was deserted. The party moves to Pier one on Friday. It's an interesting town, bars on the hip strip are spread out, it's a 20 minute walk from Pier one to Margaritaville. Definitely could be set up better. Friday I picked up a local girl who would have hooked up with me the next day but we were leaving to Kingston so I didn't bother. She was barely attractive enough anyway.

Best time we had was going into the actual city. Went around several bars in and around the real city, drinks were way cheaper, no hustlers, real cool people. Smoked with some dude, played pool with some locals.

There's a strip club on the strip but it just felt like a US strip club. Didn't peruse extras.

Goof enough time, but a wasteland for mongering. Won't be back.

[QUOTE=HumanBeing1;2347328]Spent 3 days in mobay. Definitely not a mongering destination, if you hadn't figured that out by the inactivity on this forum. I primarily travel for normal tourist reasons but we do like to monger or pick up locals on our trips. No real luck in mobay. Margaritaville is a fun bar middle of the hip strip with a slide that goes into the sea, some water games. Thursdays it's absolutely packed, many women tourists and locals. Spoke to a girl across the street at a different bar who was waiting for 11 to enter as it's free for ladies after 11. The atmosphere was like a us night club.

Friday night Margaritaville was deserted. The party moves to Pier one on Friday. It's an interesting town, bars on the hip strip are spread out, it's a 20 minute walk from Pier one to Margaritaville. Definitely could be set up better. Friday I picked up a local girl who would have hooked up with me the next day but we were leaving to Kingston so I didn't bother. She was barely attractive enough anyway.

Best time we had was going into the actual city. Went around several bars in and around the real city, drinks were way cheaper, no hustlers, real cool people. Smoked with some dude, played pool with some locals.

There's a strip club on the strip but it just felt like a US strip club. Didn't peruse extras.

Goof enough time, but a wasteland for mongering. Won't be back.[/QUOTE]They do have sw working on the hip hop street not to good looking and they have some massage place if you go to mobay you need to meet girls from the online sites. On Thurs night Margaritaville is a blast with ladies night and pier one is good on Fri. Both places have WG that will come in the club looking for customers.

[QUOTE=HumanBeing1;2347328]Spent 3 days in mobay. Definitely not a mongering destination, if you hadn't figured that out by the inactivity on this forum. I primarily travel for normal tourist reasons but we do like to monger or pick up locals on our trips. No real luck in mobay. Margaritaville is a fun bar middle of the hip strip with a slide that goes into the sea, some water games. Thursdays it's absolutely packed, many women tourists and locals. Spoke to a girl across the street at a different bar who was waiting for 11 to enter as it's free for ladies after 11. The atmosphere was like a us night club.

Friday night Margaritaville was deserted. The party moves to Pier one on Friday. It's an interesting town, bars on the hip strip are spread out, it's a 20 minute walk from Pier one to Margaritaville. Definitely could be set up better. Friday I picked up a local girl who would have hooked up with me the next day but we were leaving to Kingston so I didn't bother. She was barely attractive enough anyway.

Best time we had was going into the actual city. Went around several bars in and around the real city, drinks were way cheaper, no hustlers, real cool people. Smoked with some dude, played pool with some locals.

There's a strip club on the strip but it just felt like a US strip club. Didn't peruse extras.

Goof enough time, but a wasteland for mongering. Won't be back.[/QUOTE]Well this is bad news I was hoping to pick up a few girls here after my Trip to Dominican republic. Is there anywhere at all where I can get girls that look fairly hot like in those Jamaican music videos.

[QUOTE=DamonBlack;2377277]Well this is bad news I was hoping to pick up a few girls here after my Trip to Dominican republic. Is there anywhere at all where I can get girls that look fairly hot like in those Jamaican music videos.[/QUOTE]I think that review was overly pessimistic. Mobay has a massage parlour where all extras are on offer. Expensive but works if you want Incall and a choice of girls.

In Jamaican strip clubs everything is negotiable. Usually assume that at least 75% of girls stripping are selling it. Most places have back rooms for that very purpose! Again expensive but you get to see a choice before you buy.

Online ads are another avenue and there's usually a few available in mobay. Choice isn't as wide as Kingston and prides often a little higher but there's options. You'll almost always need to host any girls with online ads in Mobay.

Hi everyone, which site is best to look for ads in Montego Bay? Craigslist is not showing anything useful.

Hey guys,

If your willing to put in a little work, there are tons of good looking, ready to meet girls in Montego Bay. I stayed near the water (Coral Gardens) by Scotchies (jerk place next to police pct).

Nice hotel but toooo far from everything. Stay near Iron Shore. That will put you in a mall with a bus to Downtown and will also be close toPier 1 and Margaritaville for your go to night base! Get a Air Bnb with WiFi and bring a firestick-done! They love watching movies and being a / c! Cabs will murder your pocket! No Uber either!! FML! Try to secure a driver somehow cause renting a car is bothersome and they drive on the other side too!!

I joined CaribbeanCupid and it was a go from there. I am a true believer in Tinder too! But caribcupid was the better move. NOTE: most of the girls on CaribC are well to do too, they have jobs (call center mostly) and live with family-but they still want to have some fun! Try not to talk to them a whole month in advance. That will give them plenty of time to hound you and beg you for shit, and they will! Many sob stories but ignore them. They come back. Most common will be to top off their phone so they can talk to you. A whole 10 bucks--but in the end it was worth it!! Just go out on a dinner date with drinks. Tell them you got Moscato back in your room. Or White Rum and Boom (Jamaican enegy drink like Red Bull) cannot miss!

Street meat is very possible but you need a car for that-no walking around in the Bush fellas, please!! Just stay away from groups of 3.2 girls walking alone is ideal to chat. No one bats an eyelash at large age differences either-just too damn hot! And people mind their business. Anyway. Good luck and here's a few examples.

[QUOTE=HumanBeing1;2347328]Spent 3 days in mobay. Definitely not a mongering destination, if you hadn't figured that out by the inactivity on this forum. I primarily travel for normal tourist reasons but we do like to monger or pick up locals on our trips. No real luck in mobay. Margaritaville is a fun bar middle of the hip strip with a slide that goes into the sea, some water games. Thursdays it's absolutely packed, many women tourists and locals. Spoke to a girl across the street at a different bar who was waiting for 11 to enter as it's free for ladies after 11. The atmosphere was like a us night club.

Friday night Margaritaville was deserted. The party moves to Pier one on Friday. It's an interesting town, bars on the hip strip are spread out, it's a 20 minute walk from Pier one to Margaritaville. Definitely could be set up better. Friday I picked up a local girl who would have hooked up with me the next day but we were leaving to Kingston so I didn't bother. She was barely attractive enough anyway.

Best time we had was going into the actual city. Went around several bars in and around the real city, drinks were way cheaper, no hustlers, real cool people. Smoked with some dude, played pool with some locals.

There's a strip club on the strip but it just felt like a US strip club. Didn't peruse extras.

Goof enough time, but a wasteland for mongering. Won't be back.[/QUOTE]I agree with Eddie, below. There's not as much P4 P because the non-pro options are so good and easy.

There are usually some pros out on the Hip Strip (especially outside Toby's Resort at the west end) and hanging around bars on Thursday. Saturday nights.

But you are better off to just get on Tinder or Cupid or Tagged a few days before you come and arrange some dates with real girls.

Normally I don't even have to pursue them, they will contact me, or I send them a "wink" and they respond. It's really like shooting fish in a barrel, and I'm a much older guy.

On a few occasions I made explicit "meet and stay with me" arrangements in advance of visits, but really that is not necessary and ties you into girls who might not be optimum.

It's better just to set up dinner dates or beach dates with girls and you stand a reasonable (50%) chance of getting laid on the first date. And you shouldn't go on a second date without an absolute guarantee of sex.

Most girls are desperate for money, even if they are working, and fun some lifestyle fun, so a little bit of money goes a long way.

As a minimum, even for a first meeting (no sex) you should give her $5 or $10 for taxi fare (it only costs her $2, so she has a bit to spare). She might have borrowed money from a friend to go on your date, so be sensitive to this.

If she does come back to your hotel and puts out, probably $50 to $100 is appropriate. But don't treat this like P4 P, make it a gift. Tell her to go shopping before your next date or get a phone plan or whatever.

The main problem with these regular dates is they tend to be late, sometimes more than an hour late, for dates. And the evening tends to go very late. Because the girl has to get home after working (takes 1 -2 hours), get ready (1 hour) and get to your date venue (1 hour), so meeting at 8 is on the early side and more likely she will show up at 9. I rejected more dates for lateness than any other reason.

The other problem is your hotel. If you are at an all-inclusive you will have to pay a fairly substantial fee to have her over for dinner and more to stay overnight. Plus it limits your dining and partying options. You will be disinclined to pay for dinner and drinks off-site when they are included in your hotel. They plus side is partying at your hotel is a big selling feature for your girl so long as you don't mind paying the guest fee.

Check out my post from March 30 for more details.

I am living in Montego Bay for years, very easy to get girls (prostitutes or regular girls).

Pier 1, Margaritaville, Coral Cliff are all typical hangout spots for regular girls and prostitutes (prostitutes usually hang around in the corners with a few of them and will approach you).

Downtown close to the fire station there is a road that is filled with street prostitutes who will come with you if you drive.

Male staff at the hotels can help you to set up a date with a girl they know or a female staff (don't take any staff to your room as they will get fired if they find out).

Few massage places which you can visit, you can take your massage there (they will provide much more than a massage if you compensate them accordingly) and take their number to meet them the next day.

Regular girls probably make a weekly salary of US $100 with their normal job so if you financially take care of them they will skip work and take care of you.

Any questions, just let me know.

[QUOTE=Joogy;2464342]I am living in Montego Bay for years, very easy to get girls (prostitutes or regular girls).

Pier 1, Margaritaville, Coral Cliff are all typical hangout spots for regular girls and prostitutes (prostitutes usually hang around in the corners with a few of them and will approach you).

Downtown close to the fire station there is a road that is filled with street prostitutes who will come with you if you drive.

Male staff at the hotels can help you to set up a date with a girl they know or a female staff (don't take any staff to your room as they will get fired if they find out).

Few massage places which you can visit, you can take your massage there (they will provide much more than a massage if you compensate them accordingly) and take their number to meet them the next day.

Regular girls probably make a weekly salary of US $100 with their normal job so if you financially take care of them they will skip work and take care of you.

Any questions, just let me know.[/QUOTE]Thank you brother! Would you know of places to stay like girl friendly hotels or Air BnB's in prime spots. I was in Coral Gardens last time by Scotchies -way too far from the action. I was thinking IronShore maybe? What do you think?

[QUOTE=EddieLima;2464385]Thank you brother! Would you know of places to stay like girl friendly hotels or Air BnB's in prime spots. I was in Coral Gardens last time by Scotchies -way too far from the action. I was thinking IronShore maybe? What do you think?[/QUOTE]Hotels like Toby's Resort and El Greco are along the Hip Strip, easy walking distance of Margerittaville, and are not-all inclusive so you aren't tied to dining there. I can't remember if I had to pay a premium to have a girl overnight there, but if so it would not be much. But probably you have to register your guest. Of course, they are not impressive resorts, so you have to make your impression in another way.

[QUOTE=EddieLima;2464385]Thank you brother! Would you know of places to stay like girl friendly hotels or Air BnB's in prime spots. I was in Coral Gardens last time by Scotchies -way too far from the action. I was thinking IronShore maybe? What do you think?[/QUOTE]Ironshore is still to far away if you want to be close to the action. From Coral Gardens to Ironshore is only a few minutes.

I am not sure of girl friendly hotels, but usually the cheaper the hotels are, the more girl friendly they are (maybe Gloriana or Toby's Resort), also giving the security at the gate a tip will definitely help to bring them in.

Most girls honestly don't care where you take them as long as they are save and they can keep their privacy so any of these hotels mentioned below are fine, most of them will be out of place in a high end resort. At the end of the day most of the girls you take with you (even regular girls you meet at the club) expect to be financially compensated for their sexual favors they are giving you. Don't think they like you or they are in to you as they only care about the money since they struggling with their salaries they are getting at their regular paid job.

Also don't leave valuables laying around your room, cash, jewelry etc as it might go missing when you step out of the room for a minute.

If you drive you can go to dead end beach (at the end of the hip strip) after you pick up a girl, well know spot to have sex in the car.

If you find a nice girl and want to see her again let her know you will take care of her at the end of the week so she will be definitely come back, take care of her, as already mentioned if you take care of them, they will take care of you.

[QUOTE=Joogy;2468531]Most girls honestly don't care where you take them as long as they are save and they can keep their privacy so any of these hotels mentioned below are fine, most of them will be out of place in a high end resort. At the end of the day most of the girls you take with you (even regular girls you meet at the club) expect to be financially compensated for their sexual favors they are giving you. Don't think they like you or they are in to you as they only care about the money since they struggling with their salaries they are getting at their regular paid job.

Also don't leave valuables laying around your room, cash, jewelry etc as it might go missing when you step out of the room for a minute.

If you drive you can go to dead end beach (at the end of the hip strip) after you pick up a girl, well know spot to have sex in the car.

If you find a nice girl and want to see her again let her know you will take care of her at the end of the week so she will be definitely come back, take care of her, as already mentioned if you take care of them, they will take care of you.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the valuable info, friend. So stay by the Hip Strip then? I also like to walk around during the day in the little KFC malls and downtown to talk to the girls that normally wouldn't go to the clubs (like cashier / fast food girls and waitresses) because they just don't have the money to go- taxis are very expensive. I went to dead end beach. Had a good time there too! Everything you said is on point brother. Wish I was there now.

[QUOTE=EddieLima;2468796]Thank you for the valuable info, friend. So stay by the Hip Strip then? I also like to walk around during the day in the little KFC malls and downtown to talk to the girls that normally wouldn't go to the clubs (like cashier / fast food girls and waitresses) because they just don't have the money to go- taxis are very expensive. I went to dead end beach. Had a good time there too! Everything you said is on point brother. Wish I was there now.[/QUOTE]Yes, if you stay anywhere close to the hip strip you will find what you are looking for and it is pretty safe as well to walk around. Regular route taxis are actually cheap, most of the route taxi drivers will drive you around as well and are not that expensive, just get their number and call them when you need a personal taxi.

There is also a place close to the airport roundabout (behind SSMC) that rents rooms for JA $1200 per hour. Good option if you don't want to / can't take her back to the hotel.

Gents on this board I need some guidance. I know it's been slow in the Jamaica section but I've been looking at some YouTube vid and see that the country is still alive as they are adjusting to the weird times we call covid. Anyway my girl in the states wants to fly me to montego and have her first 3 some with a Jamaican woman so wanted to ask what's the best way to finding a 3rd female for us. I was thinking about making a account at carribeancupid as a couple looking for a 3rd female as well as on badoo. Or should we just go down there and wing it and try to find a female around the hip strip where the ladies gather.

Also do any guys that live there and or go frequently know of any bi females that would be interested in a couple and possibly make some money on the side. Ideally I would want the 3rd female to come and possibly stay with us a couple nights at our resort and we'll take care of her for her time. Right now I'm looking at Secrets Resort to possibly stay at but if anyone knows of a good resort to stay at let me know as well. Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=CoolieHigh;2531819]Gents on this board I need some guidance. I know it's been slow in the Jamaica section but I've been looking at some YouTube vid and see that the country is still alive as they are adjusting to the weird times we call covid. Anyway my girl in the states wants to fly me to montego and have her first 3 some with a Jamaican woman so wanted to ask what's the best way to finding a 3rd female for us. I was thinking about making a account at carribeancupid as a couple looking for a 3rd female as well as on badoo. Or should we just go down there and wing it and try to find a female around the hip strip where the ladies gather.

Also do any guys that live there and or go frequently know of any bi females that would be interested in a couple and possibly make some money on the side. Ideally I would want the 3rd female to come and possibly stay with us a couple nights at our resort and we'll take care of her for her time. Right now I'm looking at Secrets Resort to possibly stay at but if anyone knows of a good resort to stay at let me know as well. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I was in Negril last March right when Covid hit and resorts were closing down. People wouldn't even shake hands. Jamaicans are extremely smart and health conscious. Some girls might need money but I would definitely check TripAdvisor forums to see if people are actually out and about never mind offering sexual services.

As far as Negril goes there is a tourist corridor that foreigners may move around in plus certain organized tours but otherwise from what I gather there are still curfews and restrictions in place. Before spending money and time on your trip I would do a lot more research before you commit to a trip. If all you wanted to do was hit the beach and relax I'd say no problem but if you expect everything to be ready to go when you get there I would verify it beforehand.

A quarantine story for you:

[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/american-alleged-kidnapped-jamaica-authorities-181000983.html[/URL]

Good Luck.

[QUOTE=Artisttyp;2531833]I was in Negril last March right when Covid hit and resorts were closing down. People wouldn't even shake hands. Jamaicans are extremely smart and health conscious. Some girls might need money but I would definitely check TripAdvisor forums to see if people are actually out and about never mind offering sexual services.

As far as Negril goes there is a tourist corridor that foreigners may move around in plus certain organized tours but otherwise from what I gather there are still curfews and restrictions in place. Before spending money and time on your trip I would do a lot more research before you commit to a trip. If all you wanted to do was hit the beach and relax I'd say no problem but if you expect everything to be ready to go when you get there I would verify it beforehand.

A quarantine story for you:

[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/american-alleged-kidnapped-jamaica-authorities-181000983.html[/URL]

Good Luck.[/QUOTE]Thanks Big Brother Artisttyp. Yeah I definitely been doing my research. It seems that the resorts are still operational but at a limited compacity. As for fun outside the resort like at hip strip I haven't heard anything lately. Thats why my plan was to just find a 3rd female thru computer love and just have her stay with us at the resort. Do you think it's viable to find a 3rd bi-female down there using carribeancupid or Badoo.

[QUOTE=CoolieHigh;2533140]Thanks Big Brother Artisttyp. Yeah I definitely been doing my research. It seems that the resorts are still operational but at a limited compacity. As for fun outside the resort like at hip strip I haven't heard anything lately. Thats why my plan was to just find a 3rd female thru computer love and just have her stay with us at the resort. Do you think it's viable to find a 3rd bi-female down there using carribeancupid or Badoo.[/QUOTE]Also you can used tagged lost of girls on that site its a free site just put your location as Montego bay and put what you are looking for on your profile. Also before on the hip hop street after it got dark some SW work on the street you could approached them.

[QUOTE=CoolieHigh;2533140] Do you think it's viable to find a 3rd bi-female down there using carribeancupid or Badoo.[/QUOTE]From my experience and what has been reported here on ISG Jamaican women have paid sex on the down low. You need to approach it more casually than a pfp location like the DR. I don't want to say it is impossible but I would definitely get a feel for what you want by asking via a virtual website prior to coming down.

I'd even go as far to say NEGRIL might be a better bet for you since you have the option of staying up on the Cliffs away from the tourist strip closer to the local population. In MoBay people are confined to the tourist area. At least in NEGRIL you get to mix with local people when you leave the resort. If you stay on the cliffs you will see locals living literally across the street from you. I prefer it much better that way. Things happen under those circumstances that wouldn't if you had stayed in an area primarily around tourists.

Again though Jamaicans are not playing around with this virus.

Good Luck and please report back.

I forgot to mention you should research the difference between Mobay and Negril. Negril has Club Hedonism a nudist hotel which would be a great place to meet swingers. I walked around naked there once with my clothes in a plastic bag . It was hysterical. There was action in the pool. This is pre covid.

In general locals will tell you Negril is where its at when it comes to guilty pleasures.

[QUOTE=Artisttyp;2533179]I walked around naked there once with my clothes in a plastic bag.[/QUOTE]Damn my friend, I just had a visual; too damn funny!

[QUOTE=Artisttyp;2533179]I forgot to mention you should research the difference between Mobay and Negril. Negril has Club Hedonism a nudist hotel which would be a great place to meet swingers. [/QUOTE]Hedo is actually more of a swingers resort than anything else. If you can, try to book during one of the lifestyle weeks. Anything goes, anytime, anywhere. Normal weeks are still really good, maybe better for someone new to the lifestyle. If you can't score with another guest or couple, (You'll score!) there are always a couple local classier freelancers that hang out in the disco at night.

I cannot believe that Club Hedonism is still there. In the winter of 1987, I went to Negril for vacation and was told about this club, which was located at the opposite of seven mile beach where I was staying. I was also told they had a lobster night so went over there in the afternoon and hung out for the lobster dinner. During the day, I can't say that I was too impressed with the talent as I recall going to the nude beach and being more repulsed than anything else. In the evening, after the lobster dinner, I went to the night club, which was situated with the bar facing a glass front where the underwater portion of the pool was visible. Around midnight, they started playing nude volleyball so all you could see from the vantage point from the bar were nude bodies, but no heads, as they bounced around lobbying the volleyballs. Pretty hysterical.

At some point in the evening, I met a well endowed gal from Philadelphia who joined me at my hotel for a robust horizontal encounter. I think she left the next day so never saw her again. But I always chuckle at the memory of this place and surprised it's still in existence. I kind of looked at it at the time as a more salacious version of Club Med.

[QUOTE=Pogostick;2533431]Hedo is actually more of a swingers resort than anything else. If you can, try to book during one of the lifestyle weeks. Anything goes, anytime, anywhere. Normal weeks are still really good, maybe better for someone new to the lifestyle. If you can't score with another guest or couple, (You'll score!) there are always a couple local classier freelancers that hang out in the disco at night.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TomJackin;2533250]Damn my friend, I just had a visual; too damn funny![/QUOTE]It gets better.

So I am walking around looking for action and I sit by the pool for awhile looking at the scene. A few couples were playing in the shallow end. NOBODY would even glance at me. I wasn't at my peak body form but I wasn't looking like a shlub either. Low and behold someone zeros in on me. Who? A CHOP SHOP. Some lady that obviously had several surgeries with scars all over her body and was there to build up her self esteem I assume. She saw all my tattoos and thought " Here is another freak like myself. Maybe he wants to play with me? ". Short of putting back all my clothes on again I wimpered away from the area with my tail between my legs. I did get my $85 worth at the dinner buffet that night but I ate it ALONE.

Swinger events are not really the place for single guys. You need to offer something to get something back in return.

Reading Artisttyp and Tomjackin reports also made me recall another event on my one and only Negril visit in 1987. Before I made the journey down to Club Hedonism, I was staying at a small bungalow style hotel on the beach on the eastern edge of 7 Mile beach. I had arrived around sunset and strolled out to see the sunset and take in my surroundings but was quickly beset by hordes of mosquitos. I spotted a small rental kiosk in front of the hotel and inquired of a black beauty working inside if she happened to have any repellant. Follow me, she said, and I dutifully tailed behind her as we went to a hotel room on the premises, which I initially thought must be her room.

(Note: I just remembered writing this that one of the owners of this hotel was said to be Harry Reems of Deep Throat fame. I never saw him there but a few guests mentioned this to me).

However, the room was empty and within a few seconds of entering she stretched out on the bed and beckoned me over. I immediately went over to have my way with her, which I am pretty sure was also my first black girl. I have to admit that part of me thought this was setup of some sort but nothing weird happened. Afterwards, we would wink at each other when I ran into her on the grounds of the hotel but there was no repeat.

Overall, I was a bit disappointed in the action in Negril, I went to Ricks American Cafe thinking some real action could be found there but outside of a few dramatic sunsets, it was mainly couples drinking romantic cocktails. My other encounter described earlier today was at Club Hedonism. Nevertheless, no money exchanged hands on either occasion so I suppose it wasn't so bad.

[QUOTE=Tomasb;2533475]. I spotted a small rental kiosk in front of the hotel and inquired of a black beauty working inside if she happened to have any repellant. Follow me, she said, and I dutifully tailed behind her as we went to a hotel room on the premises, which I initially thought must be her room.

[/QUOTE]There used to be a little shack not far from Coco La palms on 7 mile where girls would service guys I walked in on a session once. A fat hairy white guy was getting serviced by what looked like Pam Grier with a huge afro. One of the girls followed on into the ocean and wanted to BBJ me under water but I wouldn't let her. I wanted her friend but she was busy.

Negril isn't a mongering destination but things can definitely happen for you down there. Amazing food and of course weed make it enticing to many people. All you need is a one or two decent chicas and you can have a great time doing other things. Plenty to get into besides mongering.

Hi all,

I am planning my trip for 2022 I would love to try Jamaica the thread seems very dead if anyone still visits this and has I sight please send me a message.

So, I'm heading to Montego Bay this weekend. Last Sunday night, I set my Bumble profile location to Montego Bay and by Monday morning already had 20+ on the like list. Quite a few fat and / or not pretty, but a few that were good.

One, right away, took the conversation from "What are you planning to do when you come here?" To which I responded dancing, and do you have any good moves, to which she responded, "I'd have to show". I said that sounds great, where do we do this? She says, "Your resort" and asks where I'm staying. The rest of the messaging was nice and flirtatious and I'm contacting her when I get there to arrange a meetup place and time.

The other one was similarly nice, but immediately went to "Are you in Jamaica now? To which I responded, "This Friday", to which she immediately answered, ""Maybe we could meet when you're here?" to which I ask where she's located, it's a bit further from MB but not too far, so I ask if I can take a taxi there, she says yes and then she sends me her WhatsApp# and says, "I would love to spend the night with you too. ", in response to me asking if there were any activities for us to do there.

So yeah, 2 already on the hook, we'll see if they actually bite, but both are promising.

Of course, if you're not into black girls, none of this will matter, since out of the nearly 50 likes I've gotten on bumble, only 1 was non-black, and she was VERY big, so that's a solid NO!

Anyway, wish me luck and I'll report what I find when I get back from Jamaica Mon.!!

Montego Bay Jamaica - 2/16 and 2/17 - Friday / Saturday nights.

Montego Bay Jamaica - 2/16 and 2/17 - Friday / Saturday nights.

Stayed at a place right by the Hip Strip, easy walking distance to Margaritaville Bar / Club (closed currently to a big rogue wave that hit it about 2 weeks back during a big storm), plus that's 2 establishments away from Club 2727, which was cool.

Friday night, got drinks at Blue Beat Bar, next to Marguerite's, next door to Margaritaville. Bartender is Rasheed, great guy, gave me the hookup on good rum, but be prepared, this place, and most places are EVERY bit as expensive as the USA. We're talking 2 appetizers and about 7-8 rum and cokes ran me $80 USD.

Walked out, headed toward 2727 at around 11 PM, ran into EXACTLY what I was looking for on that night.

Dark skinned Jamaican girl, blonde wig, very cute, big lashes, nice smile, but could use some braces to straighten them out. Real pretty. I said HELLO! And she was, "You like what you see?" I said yeah, and she was like, "Let's go to your room baby! Ok, yeah, you sold me. Pink top, blonde black girl, super thin, but nice curves in all the right places. Back to my little hotel I got on Airbnb.

On the way, she tells me she's $200 or more, but she'll stay all night. I said, Ok, maybe. Let's see how you treat me. We stop and get some drinks from the little street vendor, and we get to my place, I negotiated no condom after very little pushback on her part, for the same price.

We fuck like mad people from about 11:30 PM to 2 AM, she is complaining off and on how I am the absolute best / worst foreigner she's ever been with, because I'm making her work too hard, but after a little slowness to get started, she cums and cums and has that super hot sensation inside her pussy as she's just getting wetter and wetter. I finally let her take a break, because I want to go checkout 2727, because it's supposed to be a good show. She says she's going to escort me over there, wait for me because she doesn't want the other girls (dirty girls she swears to me, I. E. Dirty pussy, with diseases, I'm sure she was just telling me that, they looked ok to me).

Inside 2727, I see a few girls dancing with dudes, several obviously customers with their boyfriends / dates, but one girl with awesome dreads was grinding on this black guy, serious ass to dick grinding for 20-25 minutes, then he vanishes. She stays around, dancing, kind eyeballing me and this other drunk white guy, much younger in his early 30's, and she was obviously looking to hookup. Not sure if she was P4 P or not, but after I followed her out to the street, I think she's available for some $.

Anyway, back with my girl to the room, we fuck again from about 3-4:30 AM, just banging like crazy, every position, and her pussy is just soooooo sweet and smooth, which I love, finally end up coming on her back.

She stayed the night, we slept till about 10 AM, then I paid her and took her to the grocery store to buy some food for her to make for herself and her kid. Yes, I'm sometimes a nice guy.

Probably overpaid, but a) Jamaica is STUPID expensive, but it was 12 full hours with her, multiple sessions, probably 4-5 hours total of fucking time, so I can't complain too much about being out $400 USD all in, drinks, weed, drinks, weed, food, drinks, more food, etc.

Awesome first night!

Saturday, my girl from Friday night, Simone, wanted to hangout all day, but I sent her home with her groceries and told her to WhatsApp me later, I might hang out.

But she was sleepy and I was too, so I took a nap from about 7:30 PM to 10 PM, got dressed and walked down the little hill to the little "strip club" on the main drag, the top floor of Bar 24/7. Not sure if it's on Google, but might be.

Anyway, pricing is odd, but after speaking to all 6-8 of the dancers, the CHEAPEST you're going to get a 15-30 minute session is $6,000 Jamaican Dollars for the girl and $2,000 Jamaican dollars for the onsite room. This comes out to about $52 based on a $156 to 1 rate when I was there. They will all round the pricing to $150 to $1 USD since the math is simpler, meaning $3,000 JMD for a $20 USD bill. So, that puts you closer to $55 USD for a short time with a girl I'd put as the prettiest in the face, but a MILF body, which is ok by me. A solid 6-7 body, probably 7 face for me personally.

One girl said she'd come back to my room for 2 pops for only $100 USD, which I debated on, but she was the biggest of the girls, but also seemed the most sexual / dirty, and super fun. There was another one who looked to be about 20 years old and just a fucking KNOCKOUT body.

Interestingly the dances are $500 JMD per song, songs are good length, I had my dick out the whole time, they were stroking it, but in a way as not to show the whole club, and EVERY single girl lets you rub her pussy through her bottoms as much as you want for as long as you want. Did not ask her price, but she liked me so much, she kept giving me free dances / grinds and playing with my dick, so she probably would've been a good choice too.

After about 2 hours, I need a break, so I leave, come back to my room, walk the street and talk to other drivers, who tell me there's another strip club called Dreams or something, and it has 18-20 girls, but costs $20 USD to get in, and I already had been to the other place, so I passed. Based on what they were telling me, I am 100% sure the dancers are available for fucking at a price, but the quality of the girls is supposedly higher than 24/7 Bar, so you're likely going to pay more.

There's also, per the cabbies, a street down the way, past 2727, past Usain Bolt's restaurant, a little further north, turn right, head back up the hill and it's got a bunch of massage places, all with working girls. Supposedly it's $20-50 USD to get the "massage" for an hour, then you negotiate with the girl for whatever sex you want. Based on description, works like casas in Colombia, they come out in a lineup in their bikinis, you choose one, go off and have your fun. Lots of cabbies tried to get me to go there, plus private tour drivers, so I'm guessing they get a kickback on clients they take over. That's cool though, since it's probably too far to walk.

Ok, back to strip club 24/7, down the hill, literally, from my room, you can hear the club music till 5-6 AM from my room, so it's not for light sleepers. Fortunately, I spend far too much time in clubs and have nodded off in them here at home, so no worries, I can sleep to club music.

3:30 AM and the dancers have shed all their bottoms and most of them their tops too. They are now grinding their bare pussies on your dick for either ZERO money, which is crazy, or you just tip them $100 JMD notes for as long as you want them to keep grinding. The athletic 20 year old kept coming by and she already knew I had my dick out, so she raised my shirt and gave me the bare pussy to bare dick grind, which was nice. No cost or very little cost, since $100 JMD is like $0. 60 US.

All while this is happening, there's a customer girl to my left who keeps eyeballing me and making facial expressions like she wants to do the same for me. I thought she was with the guy next to me, but he went and sat down at a table or left and she's just eye fucking me like crazy, plus twerking her ass and you can tell she's a good time. She's super thin, athletic body, amazing ass hanging out the bottom of her jean shorts with little tears in them, and finally, I walk by and tell her I'm leaving. She says, I have my own car, I can take you wherever you're staying. Obvious she wants to come too. I tell her, you don't need to drive, I am literally 100 feet from here. She doesn't get it, but tells me she'll accompany me downstairs for my safety. Too funny.

We get downstairs and I am just groping her like crazy. She tells me, baby, I just want to suck dick and have a good time, let's go! Ok, we cross the road, get a couple of drinks from the cart vendors, probably $10 USD, go back to my room. She gets out her fake titties and oh my god, her ass is every bit as great as I expected. I'm not a huge fan of fake tits, but hers are nice, and I'm not a huge fan of braces either, but her smile is great, she's got a tongue piercing with the red black and green Jamaic colors, which is nice touch as she's sucking my dick. She reminds me that in Jamaica, it's all for sale, so she's going to need $250, but she'll stay all night, till noon or later. I tell her no, I just want to pop once or twice and that'll be good. So I give her $100 USD and tell her she'll get more based on performance. All with condom, this time, as she says she's not familiar with me, so she won't go bare, but maybe next time she sees me. Ok, no worries. She's got great bareback blowjob action for a good while, then she mounts up cowgirl and goes to town. Good shit talker, which I usually don't like, but all good. Finally goes to reverse cowgirl, but instead of putting her knees on the bed, she squats over me and just bounces up and down, kind like she was doing in the club, almost twerking style. Well, that view of her perfect ass riding up and down on my dick was too much and I only made it about 5 minutes in that position before I came. She took the condom off, sucked the rest of the jizz off, and then gave me a big smile. Went and rinsed her mouth out, then came back and went outside to smoke a spliff (everyone smokes weed here, it's not a stereotype). She volunteered to sleep with me till 11-noon, but I told her no. Then she volunteered to drive me around in the morning or take me to the airport the next afternoon for no cost. I was like, Yeah, let me message you in the morning and we'll see where I'm at.

Next morning I messaged her about 11:15 AM, after I checked out and had walked to get some souvenirs and asked if she wanted to drive me around, or just hang out and she's like "Yeah, on my way now". Apparently she spent the time after me at a DIFFERENT strip club, twerking with the dancers, a local club, and she said she should take me there next time. Given she'd slept about 3-4 hours, she was fun for lunch, we hung out at Dead End Beach, right next to the airport, where she knows, it seems, literally every one, and we debated going to a short time room to fuck again, after she said she'd been dreaming about my dick. She nicknamed it "Sugar Cane. White and sweet". So funny. Anyway, finally realized we didn't have enough time, she drive me to the airport, I gave her $20 for gas, and that was it.

She volunteered to take me to all the fun strip clubs and that she would find as many pretty girls as I wanted, either for me to fuck or for us to have a threesome next time I visit. Based on just watching her operate for 2-3 hours on Sunday, I 100% believe her gangsta skills and that she would be a very good partner for crazy action. No idea what this would cost, but I may have to find out!

Great 2 day / night trip. I'm sunburned, fucked so much my dick is sore, and yeah, it was freaking expensive.

Cheapest pussy $50-60 USD for 15-30 minutes, seems to be the best option in one of the strip clubs / brothels.

$150-200 USD for a nice looking girl from the street, but the good news is they all want to stay the night and will give you multiple pops. First girl gave me raw fucking for 4 hours easy, and it was worth it to me. Second girl a good 2 hours total sex for $250, plus a lot of GFE treatment (they call it King treatment).

You're also likely to run into even higher end girls in places like 2727, Blue Beat or down at Pier One, maybe even locals who have real jobs, but want a little extra cash for some fun with a foreigner.

Nearly everyone told me it was dangerous to walk at night, but I never felt unsafe at any time, and I was out walking the Hip Strip till 4 AM on both nights. One guy finally told me, "You're white and we know you're a tourist, no one is going to hurt you because that would be very bad for our business, but do keep your eyes open. ".

All in all, worth it if you like a) black girls, there are no white girls here who are not tourists, although you might get lucky with one, there were quite a few dancing in bars that looked like they were inebriated enough to have fun with, better if you're staying in the same all-inclusive with them b) if you like weed and c) if you just realize it's going to be MUCH more expensive than Colombia or even Sosua in the DR; I. E. 2-3 x the rate, but you will get multiple hours, GFE, plus at least 2-3 pops if you can manage it.

I am going to go back to Jamaica later this year, but want to try Kingston.

Ok, so I originally had 3 or more girls lined up, but they are TERRIBLE when it comes to responding timely on either Bumble, Tinder or WhatsApp, so you likely need to have several lined up for a specific night and time and / or just realize you're going to have to be messaging them constantly until you get one to come over.

The dating app profiles are completely obvious, so you can tell the working girls when you see them. They're usually scantily clad in bikinis or other suggestive dresses, bending over showing their ass or have their huge tits hanging out of the bikinis. They all say they like "nice things and nice times" and want a financially stable and mutually beneficial relationship. Short time, not a problem if you're not down for a "serious relationship".

Easy peasy, but flaky as all get out. I had messages going with probably 10-15 girls, including 2 "massage therapists", but for people who are working their bodies for money, they're not very good at completing transactions with willing customers.

Keep it in mind, probably similar to all online girls everywhere. Best to be as direct as possible, especially once on WhatsApp, how much for how long and where? Including activities, condom or not, etc. Just get it all out of the way early. Plus you'll weed out the ones who look like they're players, but who are just playing and not the dirty kind. There's some who look like complete P4 P girls, super slutty dressing, etc. But then act all good girl. I'm like, "What in the actual fuck!

If someone ends up making the online game work, please report, I'd love to know how it went. So many sexy black girls in Montego Bay!

[QUOTE=Nomars777;2894071]So, I'm heading to Montego Bay this weekend. Last Sunday night, I set my Bumble profile location to Montego Bay and by Monday morning already had 20+ on the like list. Quite a few fat and / or not pretty, but a few that were good.

One, right away, took the conversation from "What are you planning to do when you come here?" To which I responded dancing, and do you have any good moves, to which she responded, "I'd have to show". I said that sounds great, where do we do this? She says, "Your resort" and asks where I'm staying. The rest of the messaging was nice and flirtatious and I'm contacting her when I get there to arrange a meetup place and time.

The other one was similarly nice, but immediately went to "Are you in Jamaica now? To which I responded, "This Friday", to which she immediately answered, ""Maybe we could meet when you're here?" to which I ask where she's located, it's a bit further from MB but not too far, so I ask if I can take a taxi there, she says yes and then she sends me her WhatsApp# and says, "I would love to spend the night with you too. ", in response to me asking if there were any activities for us to do there.

So yeah, 2 already on the hook, we'll see if they actually bite, but both are promising.

Of course, if you're not into black girls, none of this will matter, since out of the nearly 50 likes I've gotten on bumble, only 1 was non-black, and she was VERY big, so that's a solid NO!

Anyway, wish me luck and I'll report what I find when I get back from Jamaica Mon.!![/QUOTE]

Wow. Very detailed report. Thank you, I'm actually going down there next week. You just gave me hope LOL.

Will hit you up and see if you have any recommendations.

[QUOTE=Nomars777;2895241]Ok, so I originally had 3 or more girls lined up, but they are TERRIBLE when it comes to responding timely on either Bumble, Tinder or WhatsApp, so you likely need to have several lined up for a specific night and time and / or just realize you're going to have to be messaging them constantly until you get one to come over.

The dating app profiles are completely obvious, so you can tell the working girls when you see them. They're usually scantily clad in bikinis or other suggestive dresses, bending over showing their ass or have their huge tits hanging out of the bikinis. They all say they like "nice things and nice times" and want a financially stable and mutually beneficial relationship. Short time, not a problem if you're not down for a "serious relationship".

Easy peasy, but flaky as all get out. I had messages going with probably 10-15 girls, including 2 "massage therapists", but for people who are working their bodies for money, they're not very good at completing transactions with willing customers.

Keep it in mind, probably similar to all online girls everywhere. Best to be as direct as possible, especially once on WhatsApp, how much for how long and where? Including activities, condom or not, etc. Just get it all out of the way early. Plus you'll weed out the ones who look like they're players, but who are just playing and not the dirty kind. There's some who look like complete P4 P girls, super slutty dressing, etc. But then act all good girl. I'm like, "What in the actual fuck!

If someone ends up making the online game work, please report, I'd love to know how it went. So many sexy black girls in Montego Bay![/QUOTE]

Curious to see how you found it, and if you had any encounters while there.

Let me know!

[QUOTE=Kaldres;2896316]Wow. Very detailed report. Thank you, I'm actually going down there next week. You just gave me hope LOL.

Will hit you up and see if you have any recommendations.[/QUOTE]

This is a great report bro. The Kingston action is not much different. The ladies are very unreliable and you have to deal with them turning up late or running off with another guy when they are supposed to be with you. The rates are between 80-100 and some of them won't use the rubber for oral. In a few cases they will also take it up the ass for an extra 20. Whatsapp is the most common app. The last few times I stuck with the same babe because her ass action is great and she doesn't like the rubber for oral.

[QUOTE=Nomars777;2895240]Saturday, my girl from Friday night, Simone, wanted to hangout all day, but I sent her home with her groceries and told her to WhatsApp me later, I might hang out.

But she was sleepy and I was too, so I took a nap from about 7:30 PM to 10 PM, got dressed and walked down the little hill to the little "strip club" on the main drag, the top floor of Bar 24/7. Not sure if it's on Google, but might be.

Anyway, pricing is odd, but after speaking to all 6-8 of the dancers, the CHEAPEST you're going to get a 15-30 minute session is $6,000 Jamaican Dollars for the girl and $2,000 Jamaican dollars for the onsite room. This comes out to about $52 based on a $156 to 1 rate when I was there. They will all round the pricing to $150 to $1 USD since the math is simpler, meaning $3,000 JMD for a $20 USD bill. So, that puts you closer to $55 USD for a short time with a girl I'd put as the prettiest in the face, but a MILF body, which is ok by me. A solid 6-7 body, probably 7 face for me personally.

One girl said she'd come back to my room for 2 pops for only $100 USD, which I debated on, but she was the biggest of the girls, but also seemed the most sexual / dirty, and super fun. There was another one who looked to be about 20 years old and just a fucking KNOCKOUT body.

Interestingly the dances are $500 JMD per song, songs are good length, I had my dick out the whole time, they were stroking it, but in a way as not to show the whole club, and EVERY single girl lets you rub her pussy through her bottoms as much as you want for as long as you want. Did not ask her price, but she liked me so much, she kept giving me free dances / grinds and playing with my dick, so she probably would've been a good choice too.

After about 2 hours, I need a break, so I leave, come back to my room, walk the street and talk to other drivers, who tell me there's another strip club called Dreams or something, and it has 18-20 girls, but costs $20 USD to get in, and I already had been to the other place, so I passed. Based on what they were telling me, I am 100% sure the dancers are available for fucking at a price, but the quality of the girls is supposedly higher than 24/7 Bar, so you're likely going to pay more.

There's also, per the cabbies, a street down the way, past 2727, past Usain Bolt's restaurant, a little further north, turn right, head back up the hill and it's got a bunch of massage places, all with working girls. Supposedly it's $20-50 USD to get the "massage" for an hour, then you negotiate with the girl for whatever sex you want. Based on description, works like casas in Colombia, they come out in a lineup in their bikinis, you choose one, go off and have your fun. Lots of cabbies tried to get me to go there, plus private tour drivers, so I'm guessing they get a kickback on clients they take over. That's cool though, since it's probably too far to walk.

Ok, back to strip club 24/7, down the hill, literally, from my room, you can hear the club music till 5-6 AM from my room, so it's not for light sleepers. Fortunately, I spend far too much time in clubs and have nodded off in them here at home, so no worries, I can sleep to club music.

3:30 AM and the dancers have shed all their bottoms and most of them their tops too. They are now grinding their bare pussies on your dick for either ZERO money, which is crazy, or you just tip them $100 JMD notes for as long as you want them to keep grinding. The athletic 20 year old kept coming by and she already knew I had my dick out, so she raised my shirt and gave me the bare pussy to bare dick grind, which was nice. No cost or very little cost, since $100 JMD is like $0. 60 US.

All while this is happening, there's a customer girl to my left who keeps eyeballing me and making facial expressions like she wants to do the same for me. I thought she was with the guy next to me, but he went and sat down at a table or left and she's just eye fucking me like crazy, plus twerking her ass and you can tell she's a good time. She's super thin, athletic body, amazing ass hanging out the bottom of her jean shorts with little tears in them, and finally, I walk by and tell her I'm leaving. She says, I have my own car, I can take you wherever you're staying. Obvious she wants to come too. I tell her, you don't need to drive, I am literally 100 feet from here. She doesn't get it, but tells me she'll accompany me downstairs for my safety. Too funny.

We get downstairs and I am just groping her like crazy. She tells me, baby, I just want to suck dick and have a good time, let's go! Ok, we cross the road, get a couple of drinks from the cart vendors, probably $10 USD, go back to my room. She gets out her fake titties and oh my god, her ass is every bit as great as I expected. I'm not a huge fan of fake tits, but hers are nice, and I'm not a huge fan of braces either, but her smile is great, she's got a tongue piercing with the red black and green Jamaic colors, which is nice touch as she's sucking my dick. She reminds me that in Jamaica, it's all for sale, so she's going to need $250, but she'll stay all night, till noon or later. I tell her no, I just want to pop once or twice and that'll be good. So I give her $100 USD and tell her she'll get more based on performance. All with condom, this time, as she says she's not familiar with me, so she won't go bare, but maybe next time she sees me. Ok, no worries. She's got great bareback blowjob action for a good while, then she mounts up cowgirl and goes to town. Good shit talker, which I usually don't like, but all good. Finally goes to reverse cowgirl, but instead of putting her knees on the bed, she squats over me and just bounces up and down, kind like she was doing in the club, almost twerking style. Well, that view of her perfect ass riding up and down on my dick was too much and I only made it about 5 minutes in that position before I came. She took the condom off, sucked the rest of the jizz off, and then gave me a big smile. Went and rinsed her mouth out, then came back and went outside to smoke a spliff (everyone smokes weed here, it's not a stereotype). She volunteered to sleep with me till 11-noon, but I told her no. Then she volunteered to drive me around in the morning or take me to the airport the next afternoon for no cost. I was like, Yeah, let me message you in the morning and we'll see where I'm at.

Next morning I messaged her about 11:15 AM, after I checked out and had walked to get some souvenirs and asked if she wanted to drive me around, or just hang out and she's like "Yeah, on my way now". Apparently she spent the time after me at a DIFFERENT strip club, twerking with the dancers, a local club, and she said she should take me there next time. Given she'd slept about 3-4 hours, she was fun for lunch, we hung out at Dead End Beach, right next to the airport, where she knows, it seems, literally every one, and we debated going to a short time room to fuck again, after she said she'd been dreaming about my dick. She nicknamed it "Sugar Cane. White and sweet". So funny. Anyway, finally realized we didn't have enough time, she drive me to the airport, I gave her $20 for gas, and that was it.

She volunteered to take me to all the fun strip clubs and that she would find as many pretty girls as I wanted, either for me to fuck or for us to have a threesome next time I visit. Based on just watching her operate for 2-3 hours on Sunday, I 100% believe her gangsta skills and that she would be a very good partner for crazy action. No idea what this would cost, but I may have to find out!

Great 2 day / night trip. I'm sunburned, fucked so much my dick is sore, and yeah, it was freaking expensive.

Cheapest pussy $50-60 USD for 15-30 minutes, seems to be the best option in one of the strip clubs / brothels.

$150-200 USD for a nice looking girl from the street, but the good news is they all want to stay the night and will give you multiple pops. First girl gave me raw fucking for 4 hours easy, and it was worth it to me. Second girl a good 2 hours total sex for $250, plus a lot of GFE treatment (they call it King treatment).

You're also likely to run into even higher end girls in places like 2727, Blue Beat or down at Pier One, maybe even locals who have real jobs, but want a little extra cash for some fun with a foreigner.

Nearly everyone told me it was dangerous to walk at night, but I never felt unsafe at any time, and I was out walking the Hip Strip till 4 AM on both nights. One guy finally told me, "You're white and we know you're a tourist, no one is going to hurt you because that would be very bad for our business, but do keep your eyes open. ".

All in all, worth it if you like a) black girls, there are no white girls here who are not tourists, although you might get lucky with one, there were quite a few dancing in bars that looked like they were inebriated enough to have fun with, better if you're staying in the same all-inclusive with them b) if you like weed and c) if you just realize it's going to be MUCH more expensive than Colombia or even Sosua in the DR; I. E. 2-3 x the rate, but you will get multiple hours, GFE, plus at least 2-3 pops if you can manage it.

I am going to go back to Jamaica later this year, but want to try Kingston.[/QUOTE]

Are there a higher percentage of pretty girls in Kingston compared to Mobay? I felt like about 30% of the girls in Mobay were pretty AND had great bodies. The rest had a pretty face, but big body or a plain face and a great body, or of course the dreaded plain face on a big body. Nooooo thank you!!

Love the fact that they like bareback oral and also freely offer anal. That's a fun time!

Anyway, curious as to the ratios in Kingston v. Montego Bay. Really wanted to get there in April, but the prices (via airline miles and hotel points) were so much cheaper to go back to Aruba that I'm going there instead! More Colombianas. What a life!

[QUOTE=Alan;2904092]This is a great report bro. The Kingston action is not much different. The ladies are very unreliable and you have to deal with them turning up late or running off with another guy when they are supposed to be with you. The rates are between 80-100 and some of them won't use the rubber for oral. In a few cases they will also take it up the ass for an extra 20. Whatsapp is the most common app. The last few times I stuck with the same babe because her ass action is great and she doesn't like the rubber for oral.[/QUOTE]