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Hola,
I`ll be in Bogota in a few weeks,anyone familiar with the apartment hotel "Suites Gold"? I just am trying to find out if I will have any problems bringing chicas to my room for the night..
Thanx
Hi:
Just be careful with the girls in the sites placing ads in El Tiempo,
must of them are pictures taken from other sites... FYI, such as www.e-extasis.com and www.muyardientes.com.
Beware.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Nibu Raphael
[i]Is All the Chaos done now in Bogota? Shit the other day like 17 deaths during the Presidents inaguaration. [/i][/QUOTE]
Bogota is a great venue for the hobby, particularly for Americans. Even better is Iraq. They call it suicide hobbyist.
Good luck.
NEED HELP! going to Col. for the 1st time,only Bogata, Iam looking for information on where to find the best working girls. Any info. on clubs,bars,hotels,restaurnts,parts of town,WEB SITES etc... would be of great help.I have had no luck finding web sites with pic. phone numbers,prices etc..of girls in Col. like I have for other latin countries.Is this not the way its done in Colombia?
Hello All,
I have been to Bogota frequently since 1981, and the best way
to find or locate a provider is to speak to the Doorman at your hotel. However, there are many beautiful ladies in Bogota; and there is no reason to pay for something that can be obtained free.
I would suggest visiting some of the upper-scale malls in the north part of the city, and the bars and restaurants close by.
You will do alright.
Denver
Guys,
is it true that Bogota is more expensive with everything in Colombia???
Is it true that the women there having more an "attitude"...iow are more snobish??
And besides that they ca't hold a candle with calenas??
If so.....now I understand why you horny mongers all go to Cali and some other places!!!!:-)
I myself go to Cali,Cartagena and maybe another city in February 2003.
I want to see,smell,taste and FEEL Cali pussy arround my DICK......;-)
If anyone of you has plans for a mega Gangbang arround that time,Please let me know and....count me IN!!!;-)As you guys know (or not) I LOVE real sleasy *****s....as trashy as can be...:-)
Johan.
PS: are Colombianitas also in for the "up-the-culo-thing" as Brasilians are??
Guys,
Today I heared that Farc bastards put a bomb inside a POLICE-OFFICE in Bogota!!!!(which infact was in a "save" area)
Anyone up for details about this????
Hell even in a safe area as in Bogota you could get bombed!!!
Fuck that.
Johan.
Excellent article on Bogota 2002 nightlife here. I ddnt want to reproduce text without author's permission. Its a free site with no ads, with good info.
I will be Bogota in late February for 2 weeks. Any body else there during late Feb, early March.
http://www.bootsnall.com/cgi-bin/gt/samericatravelguides/jul02bogota.shtml
Bogota can be fun but the clubs are completely crazy with prices I have checked out most of them and the girls are nice but not worth the money to me($150 for 30 min plus the room$50). My opinion is get the cabs to bring the girls to you at your hotel where you are safe and you can check them out . Its half the price of the clubs. Yes it is dangerous in Bogota and going out has its problems at night. The girls have to register at the hotel and that keeps the riff raff out (at least the hotel I stay at) All the cabs know girls just ask them.
Hotels, I stay at the Capital, for me it is the best. It is in between the embassy and the airport on the main road in to the city. It aint cheap but I aint paying so........... But it is safe. Stay in a safe large hotel (Hilton, Sheraton,Marriot, Intercon) dont stay anywhere questionable,trust me. If you do go out dont go alone.
Oh I almost forgot dont buy any fake green glass! If it does not have flaws its not emerald.
Bogota - Colombia, Feb 2003
Guys ...this is an exiting city to stay, money is like a joke ( 1USD = $2900COP ), places are great and nice as in America or Europe, here I spend the same than in a cheap vacation to Florida but here I am the king including the king's lidies !!! ...lots, thousands of the most beautiful women in the most luxury places!!
Recently here they had some problems with a bomb in a club but the police has taken high control of the city, the North of Bogota is very safe, rarely something happens, you can walk into the rumba (party) ditricts feelling very safe, if you dont have colombian partners, you can take one of the Hotel Taxi cabs and the driver surely will take you to the most exiting places to meet as the normal girls or the hookes you want.
Let start with the hookers ...I dont recomend downtown or South unless you go with a local one, it is cheaper there ($10 bucks to fuck!) but in the North clubs like Lido and Porkis Cabarets are the most famous ones and they use to give well care to the "gringos" ,but there are many others by Carrera 15, there you drink enough by U$25 and it is used that they will introduce you like 10 diffrent beautiful women one by one, then you chioce the one or the ones you want to scort you, after a time of streaptese, drink, chat and dance in the club you go to fuck by $50 including the room, they will make you whatever you want by the same price during 1/2 hour, at the end your driver takes you back to the hotel, if you decide to take out the girl, price doubles.
The normal girls are concentrated in the discos and bars around the brand new Atlantis Mall (Calle 85, Carrera 15) where the Hard Rock cafe is located, go into the disco then you check the girls without couple and simply say (keeare beailar) wanna dance?, if she accepts, done! ...they love "gingos" and if you are able to speak some spanish, faster! ...get her telephone and now it is up to you for the rest of the trip. If you want to meet more mature women, you go to Parque de la 93 (calle 93) where lots of European style cafes are located, and the same story....but this time you say (bebe konmigou), dink with me?
If all of this is very stressfull for you, buy the newspaper EL TIEMPO in the Adults ads you find like 30 diffrent massage places where they charge around $20 by the regular 1 hour massage, but as always every extra is availiable like nude $10, oral $15, fuck $20, some of these are special for "gringos" and they speak english, the ladies are the most lovely ones, you always choice among 10 or 15 and your one will massage with her hands, teets, mouth and all her body all of this before to fuck you at the very best colombian style.
Wanna come? ...if you pass here for business, then you will know things are diffrent than in the news and if you want to make a tour ...look for a contact or marriage agency (you get the good girl and you fuck the bad girls). ....Hey!, wear casual NON tropical cloths, Bogota average temp is 70F but if still you want to extend your vist to las hot caleñas in Cali or the beautifull paisas (Medellin) bring something tropical.
See ya.
DIEGO, Toronto - Canada
I'm looking for a good place for a stag night in Bogotá...
Anyone got any experience of La Mansion (116 & autopista)?
Hi:
I will be traveling to Bogota shortly and am interested in outcall service to my hotel.
Price and contact info would be appreciated. Only interested in attractive and sensual women.
Thanks.
Daty1,
Your sure you're not interested in unattractive, cold women??? :-)
My favorite left the country for that happy hooker hunting ground up north. And to make videos as well, I believe. Sweet, sweet, girl, how I miss her...
But pick up a copy of El Tiempo, the local daily, and check out the classifieds, there's loads of ads.
Price used to be 100k ($30) for a hour of which she got half. The girls were usually quite happy to return privately for the entire night, for which I'd split the difference with them 70-90k depending on my mood. They're generally happy to be taken out to dinner too, for which none expected payment: In truth most would never to able to afford to go to a restaurant you'd be likely to take them to, so its a good way to start the evening with a nice girl.
My suggestion would be to start the night in the Zona Rosa (Mr. Babillas, Charlottes, the Cerverceria, or anything in that little stretch) and save the outcall for later on. The local girls usually like foreign men, though they probably won't sleep with you on the first night -- they never did with me anyway! Second night would be usual. If nothing on the third, they're not going to, ever.
Best nights for the Zona Rosa would be Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and Saturday.
And they're ALL attractive and sensual :-) Give them my love.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Daty1
[i]Hi:
I will be traveling to Bogota shortly and am interested in outcall service to my hotel.
Price and contact info would be appreciated. Only interested in attractive and sensual women.
Thanks. [/i][/QUOTE]
Addicted to Women:
Thanks for the info.
Saw the building on the outside on the way to an appointment. A local business contact made a point of showing it to me and recomending it. He said the quality was great and has known of it for years but not with the name La Mansion.
It's easy to find. 116th and the Autopista is a bridge and the building is at the base of the bridge on the side going to the city, not the suburbs.
I think it is worth a try. I may have the opportunity to do so over the next few months.
But your report is welcomed.
Thanks BigJ
I think it goes by a number of names That's the only one I was sober enough to remember!
"Quality was great", eh? Sounds like we've got a date then!
Did your business contact happen to give you any idea of what the rate there might be?
Expect to be in the 40 - 60 USD range for a couple of hours.
And thanks again!
That's cheaper than the outcall rate (at least per hour, anyway).
The good thing about Bogota, is that you will find PLENTY of gorgeous colombianas from all parts of the country. The atitude all depends on where you go. I would skip the ultra expensive places, but there are some mid-price range places with some truely gorgeous women. This is one of the few destinations where I have encountered women who I would truely rate from 9.5 to 10. And with good attitudes despite their stunning looks. I have a feeling that all of the "best of the best" working women eventually make their way to Bogota, regardless of where they are from.
I remember one particular place that stands out in my mind. It's a "polished brass and mirror" type of strip club joint with nice bright lighting. There was at least 15 women there at the time. Most of the clients were upscale colombian men, many of them wearing suits and ties. There was at least 4 girls there that I would rate 9 or above. I would guess that the oldest one was 25, and the ugliest one was probably about a 7.5 on a scale of 1 to 10. This place has choice of short time rooms. You can get a simple bed and bathroom (with cool mirrors all around including the ceiling)
for about $12. Or you could get a full suite for around $45 for 3 hours I believe. This is just for the room charge. My negotiations happened to be with one of the most stunning, and she was asking $50 for 45 minutes, or $75 for an hour and a half in the suite.
Despite being gorgeous, the girl was so friendly, and very fun. She gave me her cell number and we chatted a few times and also made outside arrangements. She even invited me to visit her parents for dinner, which I declined.
I know that there are much cheaper places, but the quality in this particular place was just amazing.
by the way, the place was called Whiskeria 49. (it's on 49th street)
It's been a year since I've been there, so if anyone else checks it out, I would love to hear about it... And I would be curious to know if it stlil has the same caliber of talent.
It's been a while since I've been there, but I remember the more low-key "casa de citas" in Bogota were going for around $20 for half hour. The quality in may of the places is quite impressive. I also would like to hear if anyone else has more recent up-to-date info.
Pacifico
Off the beaten track question:
I have a bi-curious female friend (and maybe her boyfriend) who'll be visting Bogota shortly and wants to know if and where she can buy (rent?!) something (female) for her whilst I'm having my fun.
Any know if and where there's a pay for lesbian scene in Bogota? The only time I had two girls there they weren't exactly rushing to put on a show for me: they told me later it was their first time with another woman. Did I just draw the short straw?
I visited Bogota in April. It is the Best City in the world (IMHO). There were 2 casinos within a stone throw from my hotel. (stayed in the Zona Rosa area) There were also 3 bars that offered the Monger plenty of action. I went to the first one (Casablanca) on my second night down there. It was filled with about 25 women and a couple of tables of men. There really was not a floorshow (though they said there would be). Drinks were about 6-8 bucks for the guys. I did not buy any drinks for the ladies because I was just in there to check it out for future nights. I had tons of eye contact, and a most of the women came up to me and introduced themselves. There was a range of a couple of 5's to mostly 7-9's. Nice firm bodies with lots of chicas wearing the "hip huggers" that makes Colombia such a wonderful place to scope. I ended up leaving after about an hour of dealing with a couple of aggressive "hags." I told one of the 5's that I just wanted to relax by myself but she would not get the hint. She said she wanted to practice her English. After about 5 minutes of her "talking" to me, I finally just told her to please get up and leave me alone. I had another black chick try to leave the bar with her. I said no to her because I was still trying to be faithful to my wife. She gave me her cell. phone number just in case. I left the place feeling tired of the high pressure that some of the women were applying.
On the way back to my hotel, a guy in the street got my attention. He said that he had knew another house a block away and that the selection was pretty good. The house was not marked and I was a little paranoid about going in, but I figured that sometimes in life, you have to trust people and be adventurous. Anyway, they put me in a private room and the girls came in to introduce themselves. There was one that got my attention, and I asked the guy to get her back in to see what the terms of the "rental" was going to be. It was about $70 US for the hour. I figured I was getting the "Gringo" price so I declined and walked out with my "guide" I had given him a tip for showing me the place. He said he could go get me whatever I was looking for. I told him I wanted a small-framed woman with a small ass, beautiful face, and nice tits. He left and returned with Maribel and her friend. Maribel was a black girl of about 21 years old and tight body. Her friend was about 30, blond, and looked used up. I chose Maribel and paid the few dollars for the taxi to get the used up blond out of my way.
Maribel and I went to my hotel. It was late and the hotel staff (at night - just guys) just looked at me and smiled. No problem with allowing the girl up to my room. I had the girl take a shower with me and I washed her pretty well. She had some "smoke" and this helped us relax before going at it. 5 condoms later (and about 3 hours later) she needed to go. I did not use a viagra. It was my first time with a black chick of that quality (about a 9 with her "reddish weave" on, about a 7 without it). The smoke and the tight body were all that I needed. She said she need to get f****** hard and I did my best. She was HOT. Paid her $100,000 COP (about $36.50 US or $12 US per hour) A GREAT HOURLY RATE AS IT TURNED OUT. I got her cell. number if anyone wants it. (I am new member to WSG so I am not sure if I can post it or not - let me know please).
Anyway, when we finished, I tooked her down to the street and walked with her to one of the main drags to get a taxi. The whole time in the room it was like a GFE, but once we hit the street, she was more passive.
Anyway, I had another experience with a Non-pro woman that was selling gum and cigs. on the street. Another Black Chica and 27. I will write the details in my next report.
Yours respectfully,
Dollar Bill$
Fellow hobbyist:
Finally I am back to being able to take time to write my next report. As I wrote in my last report, I had an experience with a "Non-Pro" my last night in Bogota. Here is the report. (Again, this happened to me in April 2003, so it is fairly current).
Anyway, it was my last night in Bogota (Saturday) and earlier in the day, while sightseeing, I met a woman that was around 30, very nice looking with a nice body, with her son, aunt, cousin, and cousin's kid. The aunt pushes for us to trade numbers and contact info. I asked her to be my tour guide that night and we could go dancing etc.
Anyway, I went to the Hard Rock Cafe (where we were supposed to meet) and waited for an hour for her to show. She was a no show, and after getting my hopes up of possibly nailing this fine piece of ass, I left the Hard Rock with a Hard Cock. I was a little bummed but knew many places by now that I could satisfy the needs of my little buddy.
Without hesitation, I made my way near this new mall (Andrino something - I think) and spotted this black girl selling gum and cigarettes on the street. She was there a few nights before when I was buying some Colombian bracelets for my step-kids. She and I had made eye contact that night and I thought it might be a possibility. I went up to her and bought some gum and then asked her in Spanish "Quieres ir a mi hotel conmigo?" (Do you want to go to my hotel with my?) She smiled and said yes but she said that she need to store her box full of gum etc. She said she would be back in a couple of minutes and walked away. After just getting blown off by the girl from the afternoon, I figured that I was not going to take any chances with this one; so I followed her about 100 yards back. She walks rapidly around the block and got to the place where they store their gear. She stowed it away and started heading back to where I was supposed to be. I just walked up to her and said that I followed her. We turned around and made our way back to the hotel.
We got back to my hotel (very close to this area) and walked through the reception area, got a few smiles from the guys working, and made our way up to my room. Once inside, I offered something from the minibar, and told her to make herself comfortable.
As we were sitting there having a beer, she asked my what I wanted. I told her that I wanted to hold her and touch her for a while, then we could take a shower, and then go to bed for some fun. I told her that I had money if she wanted it. Even though she was not a "Pro," I thought that since she probably does not make much money selling gum etc., she could probably use some extra money. I am not rich by American standards, but I would be making the same as a VP in a Colombian company.
She said that she wanted $300,000 (COP) ($100US). I told her that I had another friend that would do what I wanted for just $100,000 COP. We agreed on $200,000 but that she needed to stay till 1 AM. (I had to be up at 4:30 AM in order to get to the airport for my flight at 7:30 AM).
Anyway, she moved close to me and I got to play like I wanted. She had a nice little ass. (She was 27 but looked like she was 18). She started removing her clothes (she had a bunch on because being outside at night for many hours at a time in Bogota gets cold). After getting her down to her bra and thong, I got to see exactly how hot this fine young black chick was. Nice tits (32 C) and a fine ass.
She was shy about taking a shower with me so I told her to go shower alone. After a few minutes of her being in the shower, I disrobed and joined her. She got use to me being there very quickly. I soaped her body and washed her off. I started playing with her pussy and it was very wet. A BIG TURN ON FOR ME. She gave me a nice soapy hand job, and then after rinsing off, proceeded to the bed some action. I had gone out and bought myself some rubbers in case the chick in the afternoon worked out for me. (So I was prepared). She had a sweet little pick box that looked especially beautiful compared to her dark skin. Sex was great but after blowing my first load, had trouble getting my buddy to 100% stiff for the next few rounds. Everything worked but she wanted me as deep as possible and since I was not completely stiff, my cock was a little shorter than normal when completely stiff. (You guys know what I am saying here).
Anyway, we had a great time. GFE all the way. She ended up staying till about 2:30 AM then we went out and to get something to eat. We parted company at about 3:30 AM with a big kiss. She was definitely into this experience (as was I).
I packed my bags, got in to bed, took a half and hour nap, and at 4:50 AM, the phone rang telling me my taxi was there. (10 minutes early).
Got to the airport, made it though all the checkpoints and made it to my plane about the time they were calling final boarding call. It takes forever in the Bogota airport.
Anyway, to clarify something, in my last post, I said that I was married and did not want to "cheat" on my wife. While that is true, I had just turned 40, I had never had been with a black girl, and the excitement of having a chick playing with you dick, I lost my ability to say no. I saw in another post somewhere else on WSG, that great sex promotes great sex. I had 2 of the best experiences, sexually in Colombia. After getting back home, I had a few weeks of great sex with my wife before things got back to the normal married sex life returned. I was always a monger before my marriage 2 years ago, and I will always be a monger. I think that if I tell myself shit like this, then getting a little pussy on the side might be ok as long as I still take care of my wife's and family's needs. What do you guys think?
Take care and wrap that rascal!!!
DollarBill$
The home phone number for Maribel (that I reported on my 6-25 post) is:
571.602.0125
You will need to speak spanish.
Tell her a gringo friend of yours gave you her number. Tell her that you hear she is beautiful and you are looking for some fun. The price you should pay is $100,000 Colombian Pesos (COP) or about $35.00 With me, she was not rushed for time, but if you go over, just give her a little tip and she will probably be cool with you.
Have fun and enjoy. She had a shaved beaver and loved getting oral. Her pink pussy in contrast with her black skin was beautiful! I used a thin plastic shower cap to eat her out since she is a "Pro" and because I was paranoid about tasting someone's elses spunk!
Dollar Bill$
Has anyone used the following sites:
1. www.muyardientes.com
2. www.e-extasis.com
Not many sites out there unless I missed one? They blur the face, so they can send over anyone.
How reliable are the escort sites in Colombia?
Not much info about Colombia.
SF
Here one that will give you many options
http://guiasexolatino.com/
Heres more www.tusdeseos.col.mn, www.colsex.com, www.latin-angels.net, WWW.EROTIQUE-FEMMES.COM, WWW.CHUSCAS.COM
I've tried the Chucas and Jolie Femmes (from guia sexo latino) sites. There was a some of bait and switch. But, the experience has generally been favorable. Good looking girl. Clean. Unrushed. The prices seemed to be higher than the next option.
My best luck has been through the adds in the paper without sites. The youngest best looking girls are coming from here. I had two here that were to die for.
I have used the adds in the yellow pages as well with mixed results. The girls seem to be pretty and young but my most recent experience seemed like most seem to be out making rounds. In other words they may be getting laid 10 times in a night.
I would be interested to hear your results.
BigJohnson: going to Bogota next week and would appreciate knowing which paper is best for ads. Also, if you have any numbers of chicas you recommend I can reciprocate with numbers from Cali. My email is XTNSurfer@hotmail.com and would enjoy sharing info with you privately. Ciao.
Antifreeze, Aussie Greg, Surfer, and all other mongers in Colombia!,
I have talked to Surfer, and it looks like he has convinced me to hit Bogotá, Cali, and Medellín.
I will arrive in Bogota on Aug 6th and try to hook up "mi amiga - Vicki" while there.
Aug 7th, fly to Medellín, and stay till Sunday. Surfer advised me to not try to buy a plane ticket until I get to Colombia. He says it will cost me 1/4 - 1/2 of the price doing this vs. using the internet to purchase a ticket. How much was your ticket from Cali to Medellín?
Aug 11th - Aug 15th - work in Bogotá during the day, while doing research for WSG at night.
Aug 16th - Aug 20th - take a early flight to Cali and spend 4 nights in paradise! I am still a little unsure about which hotel, but I think that I am leaning towards "Hotel Don Jaime on Avenida Sexta" since it is Surfer's recommendation. I want to be close to the action.
Aug 20th - back to Bogotá
Aug 21st - Back to México
Is getting Vitamin "V" difficult in Colombia? Does it require an medical exam or prescription? I tried it once (stole one from my Dad's stash while I was home visiting) and it work for like 14 hours. I do not remember any problems with headaches, just waking up with a stiffy and putting it to my then-girlfriend a few more times. I figure if there is going to be a "stud" convention in Medellín, then I better take some performance enhancing drug to get me in the competition. (ha)
I look forward to meeting Freeze, Aussie Greg, Surfer, and anyone else down there.
Dollar Bill$
Forget V, I hear that Cialis should be on sale there by late July!
Bill, Look forward to seeing you in medellin on the 7th (I arreive on thre 6th and Freeze will already be there). You know which hotel. See ya.
Guys,
I probably have one evening alone before my GF joins with me in Bogota...so.....jajajajaja;-)
WHAT IS THE STREETSCENE LIKE????
WERE'S THE ACTION????
PRICES????
SUERTE
Johan.
Hey Fellas,
First time poster, I'm a member of UVM Club and have seen the guys mention this site quite a bit.
Bogota street action can be located on Carrera 15 between Calle 90 and 100, although the greater concentration will be between Calles 97 and 99. For thos staying in the Zona Rosa this very convenient.
The prices are anywhere from $35-60. Although if you are a foreigner the price might go up. Most foreigners (execs and embassy staff) hit this area and the rich Colombians, but it's the only safe street scene in the north of the city.
In the Chapinero district there is a lot of street action but the quality of girls are generally not good and its not safe at night.
A good place to look for pro would be in the El Tiempo Classifieds "Srevicios para Adultos". It will also have info on stripclubs and casas de citas(burdellos) and escorts.
I hope to Continue to be able to contribute more info , I live in Bogota . So if anybody has any questions I'll be glad to help.
Had a Colombian friend turn me on to a hot new place in the north. It is a very elegant casa with hot girls. Full bar and a small sitting/waiting area. I went on a Monday night at about 10 PM and there was only two girls but both were solid 8s. Took to my hotel a spinner named Laura. 18 y/o (confirmed on her cedula), long black hair, brown eyes, probably 105 lbs, nice B sized tits, trimmed bush. Totally a nice package.
Laura (I later found out her real name was Aracely) told me she was from Pareda and only in Bogota for 18 days. She also showed me a card that she is registered with one of the local television companies to do work.
I took her back to my hotel for 2 solid hours of fun and really great conversation. Aracely was genuinely a nice person. My only complaint on her service was no BBBJ (she said that was the rule of the guy that ran the casa.)
The guy at the casa said the best hours to get there is between 3PM and 8PM, maybe 9. The selection then is normally between 10 - 20 girls. Some live on site (my girl did.) Some are university or college students looking for extra cash and go home.
Aracely was open to returning without going to the house. I didn't discuss price because I really wanted to check out a larger selection early there today.
My friend told me the cost would be 150K but I think I got the Gringo price of 200K. The price normally includes 1.5 hours in a room on site or 2 hours at your hotel. Here is one strange twist, on site you are allowed 2 "relations", offsite it is unlimitted.
The place is called Estrato 6. It is located at Transv 33 #123-30. Tel 620-0700. The do work like an escort service if you'd rather just call from your hotel but it's worth the trip to head over and pick out your own girl. Their business card reads "Entendemos la imporancia de una excelente Y discreta compania elegante sede", translated meaning "We understand the importance of an excellent and discrete elegant company." Hope this helps.
Hola, piratas!
I went to the area of 86 and 15 in Bogotá. On that street there are a number of clubs. I walked into Extasis, there was a monger sleeping on a couch. There were about 8 girls dancing listlessly on a dance stage. They all had their clothes on and none were above a 7 in my personal scale. [Others might think them doable.]
I left Extasis and went to Copabana, right in front. There I saw a few 7's, 8's and one 8.5. [Once again, personal scale. I like them busty, tanned, slim, with a nice haircut and no wrinkles nor stretchmarks.]
I hooked up with Tatiana. I'd say she's a 8.5 in looks, I don't know. I got a hard one when I saw her.
Long story short, I paid her two hundred thousand for two hours. I paid 60 thousand for the bar fine. I took her to a motel where I paid 56 thousand for a room with Sauna.
The girl rocked my world. A twenty something year old woman improves my mood significantly. I think I overpaid. I'll try to pay less in the future.
Clubs can now stay open until 3 in the morning.
ferolga777
!Hola, Piratas¡
Bogotá Report
First of all. Bogota is not a monger destination. But, if you are here you might as well know where to obtain some poon so that the night doesn't seem so goddamn uneventful.
Sunday night in Bogota, if it isn´t dead, then it's in critical condition. Went everywhere, everywhere was closed or dead. Ended up in Casanova, on carrera 15 and calle 86. This club is better than Extasis or Copacabana. Also more expensive. The girls are, on average, prettier. There's a giant screen showing semi-soft porn. There's a stripper that comes out every whenever and prances on the stage.
The drinks are 20 thousand pesos for an imported beer. The girl drinks are 35 thousand pesos. I chose a spinner, a brunnete. She charged 200 thousand pesos. The fine was 80,000 (in copacabana the drinks are 16 k and the fine is 60 k).
I purposefully forgot her name. I don't want to call my wife "Chupito" by mistake. 8-}
There's something about a twenty something year old woman that improves mein mood. Took her to the hotel because I now know that motels are riskier, plus most do not have a thousand mirrors, so that I can admire my hairy derrier from multiple angles.
a few quick reports.
1) la mansión
address: 116 con autopista norte
this place is located in an old mansion. it is closed on sundays.
ten p.m. i walked in and got searched. i was led to a living room with a number of couches and tables and girls. next to the living room there´s another room with a pool table. a few nocturnal femmes were playing with the sticks and the balls (all the innuendo is on purpose). a few gents sat talking to girls. one classy joint.
the romper rooms are upstairs. i was sitting next to a tall brunette who reminded me of mira sorvino (others might have been reminded of paul sorvino. what do i care?)
i talk to the girl. we order drinks: red bulls, nine thousand each. she seems off. excuses herself to go to the bathroom. comes back, her nose and speech give clear indications of a severe coke habit. we get down to business and she quotes me 600 thousand pesos for one hour on premises, plus the price of the room. i haggled her down to 200. then told her that i don´t sleep with santa´s niece.
the girls were no better than at casanova.
2)
abejitas
address: carrera 14 no. 83-23
they advertise in el tiempo.
this is a massage parlor. it´s open till 10. went in at 7:00 p.m. chose a curvy girl. got a therapeutic massage. her uniform was quite impressive. all my sore muscles received treatment. $125 thousand for an hour of full therapy. she was pretty but inexperienced and bitchy. i have a way with the femmes.
3) lido
address on calle 95 near carrera 15. (this is zona norte.)
a girlie bar. every twenty minutes a girl takes her clothes off. not as fancy as casanova. fine is 55 thousand. a drink is twenty thousand minimum for the guys. i don´t know how much for the femmes. this girl was asking me for two hundred thousand for 1 hour. i haggled her down to 150 for one and a half hours. she rocked my world.
i take the opportunity to ask posters to make an effort and write down the addresses of the places you go to. i try to ever since i read someone say that an address is not, "all the taxi drivers know where it is".
address all pertinent questions to the group.
ferolga
Just back from Bogota and while there IS ample action to be found, prices arte higher and attitudes more businesslike. NObody should confuse it with Cali (mongerwise). Will post details soon, but IMHO if you spealk passable Spanish and mongering a priority of your trip, other cities in Colombia are much better IMHO.
Yes, this is my first but not last posting.
I was in Bogota for several days last week. I'm not one to go out much so I used the chuscas.com website and tried out three, all very good (young and beautiful) GFEs. I don't consider the rate (120,000 pesos/hr) to be that bad, especially with their promo of buy 2 hrs get one free.
All three gave me their private numbers and I worked out lower rate. I am fluent in Spanish and treated them very good so that helps.
On one ocassion, the service called me back to tell me the girl was running late and offered me another comparable one who would be only 20 minutes. I took them up and have no regrets and yes, she was on time.
Next time will try Cali. But I recommend chuscas in Bogota.
Hello. I went to Bogota with a friend of mine about 2 weeks ago. He
was telling me how dangerous Bogota is so he insisted I only go with
him. To make a long story short I was only there for one night and
not being super fluent in Spanish I had my man have the hotel get a
girl for me (I know-big mistake). Anyway I figured if I told them
specifically what I wanted that would help. I was looking for a dark
skinned Colombiana with a fat ass, kinda like one I saw in Costa Rica
at Blue Marlin two weeks prior (a girl I wanted to fuck but she was
already with some a middle age dude), I'm young and black myself so
the fat ass part you can probably understand. Anyway the Bogota
hotel guy sent a girl that was light brown kinda petite which I took
as a warning. But I needed nude photos for school project as well as
a good fuck. We negotiated the photos which turned out great it was
the sex that sucked. As well as the fact that the time with the
agency is bullshut. It was like s
he was counting the milliseconds. I felt like I was fucking the
agency not the girl. I couldn't believe how wack this girl was in
bed. Pussy was loose, no anal, the blow job was covered. I was like
Got Damn. The best thing she had going was the hand job which was
fantastic as well as when I came all over her body or should I say
exploded because I was incredibly horny. This week I'm going to Cali
because people have told me it's better as well as the post I've been
reading here have suggested Cali. Also a guy on the plane trip back
told me the black girls are on the coast. I told him I plan to hit
every city because I do like the morena girls too but I was looking
for a clone of that girl I saw in Costa Rica. In Bogota I saw
several fine ladies but also I see the internet sex scene in Colombia
is very limited. Well I'll have faith that what I've heard about
Cali is true, but I'm trying not to get my hopes up too much.
Phil
Read about Casablanca or Casa Blanca on another board. Anyone with experience with this place? Near 24th and the autopista?
Im going to be there during the week of Sept 29.
I am going to try Estrato 6 at Transv 33 #123-30. Tel 620-0700.
I'm going to try this place out. Anyone game?
the rabbit is planning a trip to BOG(JAN or FEB) to see a chica friend, looking for a safe hotel in the $30-50 range,.... she's coming from outta town to meet me, since her area is muey peligroso!!!.......any recommendations, 'cause i ain't havin' alot of luck on the WEB finding a place........BTW, what's going on in BOG the 2nd week of FEB, cause almost all the hotels are booked up!!???($80-400 range)wtf...............the rabbit
think i'm gonna try Suites Real 85, $37/night.......anyone know the pros & cons of this place, looks good on the website??!i'm only gonna be there 4 or 5 days............RAB
I’ve been a lurker around here for quite some time and finally decided to register so I can join in the conversation about Colombia. Actually, what I really want to do is describe a situation I find myself in, and see if any of you have had similar experiences and can offer me some advice.
My credentials for being here are this – I’ve been traveling for business to Latin America for 20 years, with the last 10 years mostly focused on Colombia. It wasn’t long after my first arrival in Bogota that I discovered that Colombian women are the best looking women in the world. It wasn’t long after that that I started discovering places like Copacabana, Casanova, Exstasis, Lancaster Club, the Lido (my personal favorite), and the various massage parlors on Carrera 13 between Calles 82 and 83. I’ve been a regular in all these places – the waiters know me, the girls know me, and I get treated well. My own personal record is 7 different girls in one 10 day trip.
When I was in Bogota recently, I paid my usual visit to the Lido. There was a new girl there who immediately attracted my attention, so we started talking. It was just her second day there. We hit it off, went to my hotel, and had a great time. I gave her a call 2 days later and she came by for another visit. The time we spent together was one of the greatest sexual experiences of my life (sorry guys, she’s no longer working at any Bogota club).
I returned to the US from this trip and we started a regular email correspondence. Turns out I needed to return to Colombia again a couple of weeks later, not to Bogota but another city. I asked if she wanted to join me there and she said yes. I bought her a plane ticket and she came and stayed with me. What I found out was not only she the most exciting sexual partner I had ever had, but she was smart, intriguing, complex, and a wonderful person to spend time with. We kissed goodbye at the airport when I had to return and have since been in constant email contact.
Yes, you guessed it – I have fallen head over heels for her. For all the other beautiful and interesting women I have met in Colombia, there has never been anyone who has so totally captivated and enchanted me like this. Now here’s the rest of the story. I am married with kids, but almost feel like I’d be willing to toss everything to be back with this beautiful and compelling Colombiana. She is considerably younger than I am. The fact that I exchanged money for her favors of course complicates the whole situation for me – are these real feelings I have for her and she for me, or is this just the illusion of another GFE that I’ve let overtake me? Believe me, I’ve had more than my fair share of GFEs with beautiful Colombian women, but this time it seems very different to me.
Her financial situation is that she is considering leaving Colombia to work in another country sometime in the next few months. That is, unless I can convince her otherwise.
So – am I crazy or what? Have any of you had something similar like this happen and what have you done about it? This is a new kind of experience for me, and I think I would benefit from anyone who was any advice to offer.
Cachaca,
It's great to find someone who rocks your world! ...
You seem to be an experienced guy ... here's the question ... is she asking for $$$?
If she goes to this different country to work ... you can't see her anymore?
Enjoy this chica, get to know her better ... with time you'll get a better feel for her feelings or if she's just using you.
Suerte.
<<So – am I crazy or what?>>
Yes you are. In the way that all men are. Here's the setup. Don't get rid of your wife. Your kids need a daddy and a mommy. Plus divorce can be so expensive.
Instead, you rent a nice apartment for your girlfriend in Colombia. Give her a nice monthly stipend. Don't go overboard.
Now, be French about the whole thing. She might be unfaithful to you while you are away. That's okay. You say to yourself, hey, no biggie.
Always let her know far in advance when you are going to show and always wear a condom for vaginal or anal sex.
You are not the first, you won't be the last.
Good luck,
Ferolga
This is an old old story. Been there done that. The girl always "just started" and isn't really that kind of girl. Blah blah blah. She may be the nicest, most sincere person in the world, and make a big point of not asking for money at first, but believe me, you will end up sending money. No matter how much you send, it will never be enough. If she is playing you, she will want the money for herself, if she is really nice, she will care about her family and will ask for more and more money for them. As soon as you take care of her problems, her relatives will start hitting her up. They don't really need to make up stories, they usually have legit problems, Uncle Jose is a diabetic who can't afford insulin, etc. Your girl may have no intent of "using" you, but Colombianas are very family-oriented, so they can't say no to their families. There is a never ending chain of family tragedy which only you will be able to fix. If you do not come thru, she will have no choice but to go work the bar scene in Costa Rica, Panama, etc., even tho it breaks her heart to do it. Do NOT abandon your U.S. family for this pipe dream. You have an addiction. At least set a monthly limit on what you will send, and stick to it no matter what. No matter what these girls say, they are NEVER able to send home more than $500- $1,000 a month from the "other country", so if you are sending $1,000 a month, she is doing better than she would otherwise. Set her up in an apartment if you want and go see her there. If you still feel the same in 3 years, maybe do something then. You are no doubt 20 years older than her, so be aware that the girl will probably see other guys when you are not there, no matter what she says. You can easily verify this for a few hundred dollars by hiring a Colombian private investigator.
YEP, THE COLOMBIAN SEX TRAP,
These colombian girls are all the same, they are so desperate because they are so poor that they will do anything for there survival. I agree with many of you that you can find a sweetheart out there, but most of these colombian girls do the same thing, they try to get two to three boyfriends with the same attributes,(suckers with money), they get three to four guys to pay them monthly dollars and it adds up very nicely. I see it all the time in Panama City, these girls get apartments for free and they are escorting on the side when the American is in the United States. I know many girls in Panama City that have Americans paying for there apartment and they are fucking on the side for money. I know this because i am the one fucking when they are out of the country. Remember
1. Would these girls support you if you were the one with no money?
2. do you really think they would care about you if you were poor?
3. if they were the ones with the money, would they give you the time of day, or would they be looking the other way,I guarantee they would be looking for more money, not interested in paying you jack shit
I might sound cynical and rude, but come on guys, these Colombians are only out for your money/ a better life for themselves. I AM ONLY LOOKING OUT FOR MY FELLOW AMERICANS AS I WRITE THIS, if you want to throw your money away, fine, but these girls see you as an investment, not a person, these girls view us like we view the LOTTERY, it sure would be nice. My experience has been that it is great to hang out with these girls, they are great sex, nice people, but i would not get to involved, soon you will be paying for her cousins cousins whom you will never meet. Keep your money and just bang them. I have seen to many stupid Americans paying for these girls in Panama City /apartment/food/utilities etc. , and they fuck there clients in the apartment that the American has paid for, I know this because I am have seen it first hand as i have banged girls that i did not even know had American boyfriends. Just my 2 cents, but I believe is the truth.
ILS
A question for those in the know, so that our friend Cachaca Lover can get an idea of how much to send his mistress in Colombia. Let's say that she lives in Bogota and he wants to make her a reasonable offer. How much per month should he send her?
Oh, by the way. Whenever I start having feelings for a working girl I go and bang someone who looks like her from behind. In other words, I agree with those that think developing a relationship with her is a mistake.
Well if she got a full-time job as a secretary she would earn about $200 a month.
cachaca lover: Caution is required, and don't act hastily, but your idea IS doavble in my opinion. Yes there are snakes in the grass, but Colombia is also full of sweet, honest young lasses in economic distress who could use some help but will treat you like a king in return. US women will drain your wallet even more efficiently and without giving back the sex & love which Colombianas will give you.
Cachaca,
I won't presume to tell you what you should or shouldn't do, your a grown man and capable of making your own decisions. I will, however, share some actual personal experience and my opinion.
I did support a 21 year old woman from Medellin, her mother and 3 year old sister for over a year. My situation did not end the way that I hoped. I am not bitter or angry about that, only disappointed.
I still think that it is possible that the situation that you are describing could have a happy ending. The complication with yours is your existing family but you know your situation and feelings there better than anyone else.
I would agree with the people that have advised against rushing into the situation. If there are pressing needs which are causing her to go to work in another country then maybe you could offer to take care of these immediate needs if she postpones her new employment.
I would think that to support the girl it would cost at least $500.00 a month. If she is supporting other family members then be prepared to pay more.
If you do go forward with this, then I would recommend that you make sure that you spend time with her on at least a monthly basis. I think that a large factor in the failure of my own relationship was that we only saw each other every 2-3 months. It made it hard to keep the fire going in the relationship. No matter how much you talk on the phone or e-mail its not the same as being there.
I would also advise to keep other people out of your business and make sure that she agrees with that philiosophy. I had the misforune of having a friend of mine meet a girl that knew mine. The ensuing meddling was the source of most of my problems in my relationship.
Finally, take this board with a grain of salt. There are some posters that actually put some thought into what they write and offer advice based on actual experiences. There are others that seem to talk out of their asses and offer expert opinions on issues that they know nothing about and claim a myriad of experiences just to read their own posts and feel important. I am sorry if this insults anyone but I know for a fact one person posting in this chain is full of s***.
Whatever you decision is best of luck and always pursue what makes you happy.
Thanks to all of you for helping me to think through this situation. Some of the postings were like a bucket of ice cold water thrown in my face, but the net effect was that I got a better night’s sleep last night than I have in a while, like since this whole thing began.
I realized I might have come off making some unintentionally naïve statements in my original posting, especially after reading Chuponalgas and ILS’s comments, so I want to add some more info to this mix. I said that the night I met her at the Lido it was just her second night. What I meant was that it was her second night working at the Lido. She had already worked at other places, including a stint in Panama. She was a professional and knew what she was doing. I don’t have any illusions of an innocent little girl having been forced into the Lido and just trying to get through her second night on the job.
As to the Same Old Story/Colombian Sex Trap syndrome – I have also been there and done that and know the drill. I had a regular “friend” at the Lido a couple of years ago, a very cute Calena. Our little thing went on for probably about a year. It got to the point that she didn’t want me to reimburse her for her services, and she also regularly procured another girl for the two of us to enjoy together. Then one day she needed to pay her mother’s rent or else her mother would be thrown out of her apartment. I was surprised, but helped her out. Shortly afterwards, she needed money or else the telephone to the apartment would be cut off. I was kind of annoyed and gave her some of the money. Then there was some other emergency. I was feeling used and abused. End of the story.
I’ve had a couple of other friends since her. One of them (from Exstasis) told me her mom needed an operations and could I help out. I knew this was the Same Old Story syndrome so bye-bye. The next one (from the Lido) – by the way, a drop-dead gorgeous blond in that to-die-for Colombiana way – called me one day to tell me they were going to cut off the water to her mom’s apartment if she didn’t pay her water bill. Bye-bye again. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
I just wanted to have all that part of the story out there so you’re not thinking this is some dumb American just getting initiated into the Colombian scene. The current object of my attention has some different and unique qualities that I see. I am generally a good judge of character, although I’ve also made some dumb mistakes in my past. I see a light in this one that I have not seen in others, which was why I wanted to know of others’ experiences. I wanted to know if my previous experiences (Chuponalgas’ Same Old Story syndrome) is the way it ALWAYS turns out, or if anyone has had different experiences, ever.
In any case, you’re comments have helped me to think more rationally about this. I still am turning it all over in my head about what to do next, but I have more food for thought thanks to all of you. If you think of other advice to add to what’s already been given, please go ahead and let me know.
Out of curiosity – most of you sound like you spend lots of time in Colombia. Do you live there or just go there a lot? Would you be interested in meeting up sometime if it turns out we’re there at the same time?
And to Surfer – your comments about the sweetness of Colombians is appreciated. I have traveled and worked all over Latin America and have never met any group of people nicer, friendlier, and more open than the people of Colombia.
Cachaca Lover,
I was at a similar situation like this, my girl studies full time at an university, but was working temporarily at a massage parlor to make some quick cash for a sudden financial crisis when I met her. Since then, I have been to Colombia to see her every month, and get to know her family as well. Our relacionship didn't involve money, at least not yet. A few time I was gonna give her money at the airport ,she refused. This and from other oservation made me think that she is not in this relation for money. The whole time we were together, I can feel she is not a hardcore pro, and money has never been a subject. She always returned the changes when I gave her money to pay for something. But in reality, one way or the other thay are all looking for financial security.
Even if yo can go down to Colombia every month like I did, most of the time you are still apart, and that is not very healthy for a relationship. I called her, and she writes me every day, a lot of misunderstanding still occured dued to the distance. In my case, language was not a problem. If you can't move down there and live with her, the relation will be very difficult. I know many Colombian girls live on the support of their "Amantes", either a local man who can afford or a foreigner, and in return they provide sex in demand. For these girls, love has a very different definition than a regular girl. If companionship and sex is what you are looking for, they can be very passionate and romantic. They are the best lovers. For a serious relationship, I would avoid a working girl or these amantes.
I also travel to Latin America a lot for business, let me know and hope we can meet up somewhere sometimes.
Cachaca Lover,
You are a smart person and i think you see the truth . Just put yourself in her position,HER LOGIC IS get some american guy to pay for my life and fuck him a couple times a month , or fuck everynight for no money with some colombians. She is looking for the easy way out and why not, but if she has worked at various clubs in the area including Panama City, then she is a money hungry ***** looking for your American Dollar. Just beware and I would make a spreadsheet on your computer and put down everything that you have given her in regards to money.
If you want to see if she really cares , do not give her any money and see if she stays in contact, then you will get the real person. Just my 2 cents.
ILS
hey Cachaca Lover,.... you know you've got a "keeper " when she tries to give some of your money BACK TO YOU!!!.......hope it works out?!..........RAB
I have seen probably 100 of these situations in the last 25 years and never saw any work out in the long term. CATCH-22: If she is just a user, you will spend money and get hurt. If she IS a really nice person, she will be crying all the time about family tragedies, and you will have to "volunteer" to help or watch her cry about her family. Many of these girls are real sweetie-pies, but that means they will be totally devoted to their families. I have seen these girls literally go hungry so they can send every penny home for Uncle Charlie who needs a penis transplant, or whatever the "tragedy of the week" is. I have also sat and listened to these girls compare their American "boyfriends" and brag about how much money each is sending... They call them "Western Union Girls". But hey you only live once!!!
Gents,
I will be in Bogota the night of the 18th of December.
Anyone for a beer? Send me a PM is so.
Of course a report about this trip will follow soon.
Mr. Chencho
Hello amigos,
This might become handy when visiting Colombia (Bogota)
http://mr.chencho.freeservers.com/eltiempobogota.jpg.html
Mr. Chencho
Also this just appeared on news wire.
U.S. Embassy in Colombia Issues Terror Warning
Friday, December 12, 2003
BOGOTA, Colombia — The U.S. Embassy warned Friday of "a high probability" of imminent terrorist attacks in Bogota (search) and said Americans and U.S. companies may also be targeted in the coastal city of Cartagena.
The warning urged Americans to avoid major commercial, entertainment and nightlife centers for the next several days.
Bogota's two trendiest shopping and dining districts continue to be off-limits to U.S. Embassy employees, their families and embassy contractors.
Colombia's main rebel group, the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (search), known as the FARC, has carried out bomb attacks in this Andean capital in which dozens of people have been killed.
A FARC commander said on Nov. 29 that it would also attack U.S. military personnel, who have been training and advising Colombian government forces battling the 40-year-old leftist insurgency.
On Nov. 15, a rebel tossed hand grenades into two Bogota brewpubs frequented by Americans, wounding 72 people, including four Americans.
The United States has spent some $2.5 billion, most of it in military aid and training, since 2000 to help the Colombian government battle the FARC and a smaller leftist rebel group. "
Be safe
eric7
Hola Gents,
As planned I arrived to Bogota for my one night stop before continuing my trip.
It was 17:00h and I didn’t have any problems getting into the country. I changed US$200 at the most farther exchange house before getting out of the airport. The exchange rate was of C$ 2,610 so I ended up with a little fortune.
A driver was waiting for me.
No news from the airport to the hotel, with the exception of traffic. People in Bogota drive like maniacs.
I arrived to my Hotel, the Windsor House in calle 95. They don’t have their own web page, but you can make a search in Google and find information about the hotel.
The price is right, C$130,000 (approx. US$ 50) for a single room and C$ 250,000 (approx. US$ 100) for business, breakfast included. No problem calling/bringing up girls to the room.
The format of the room is of small apartments, small living room and kitchenette, on big bedroom with a king size bed and a big restroom (the business room with Jacuzzi).
It was 18:30 and I called the agency http://www.e-extasis.com , of course I had done my little research of the site before and I was very clear of whom I wanted.
I asked the attendant that I wanted 2 services, Sol at 20:30h and Yadira next day 10:00h. Prices agreed are the ones on the web page. It includes 1:15m of services, as much intercourse as you can take during the time. Each service is priced at C$ 150,000 (aprox. US$ 55.00)
I called the reception and announced that I will be receiving a female visitor, and I got a “no problem sir” (magic words) from the receptionist (all males).
I just chilled down, relaxed, tried to shake off my jetlag (arriving from Europe) until show time.
21:00hrs the girl arrived, the porter escorted her to my room and made me sign a document accepting the visit. That was it, not a single penny.
So this tall, copper skinned, full of curves introduced herself as Sol. She was not Sol, but what the hell she was beautiful, sexy and she was IN MY ROOM. Looking in retrospective at the web site, she looks more like Fernanda.
We had a small chat in the living, I offer her some drink and she saw a bottle of whiskey I had on the table so she asked for it.
I pour her whiskey with some ice, and wow. It just magically disappeared in her throat. I poured her a second one and we move to the room.
In the night table I had placed the money (this is a tip by the way), so she doesn’t has to ask for it and I don’t have to pay her. It makes things more smoothly and helps the girls relax.
She took the money and we got that out of the way.
We started a friendly conversation, and she was very relaxed and fun. I asked her to get comfortable so we striped out and she lay flat on her back in the bed.
I started to kiss her neck, arms, chest, and she reciprocated kissing my chest.
Sorry guys, no sex details. I keep those for me. I can tell you that she was enthusiastic, fun, very hot, and I almost believed that she liked it. Just the sight of this monument naked in bed, giving herself to me, was extremely arousing.
We had two good rounds, with cuddling and laughs after each round. Watched some TV hugging in bed. She has the softest skin.
I was starting to feel tired from the trip so I invited her to leave, so she got dressed (sexy outfit) I escorted her out, she kissed my goodbye and left.
That was it for the night.
Here is the link for two pictures of her.
http://mr.chencho.freeservers.com/colombia_bogota_page001.htm
More to come tomorrow morning and the visit of Yadira ( or whoever they send).
Next day’s morning. At 10AM Yadira (her other artistic name is Veronica) ringed my door. Looking in retrospective to the web site, she is there as Alejandra.
She is 21 years old, colleague student trying to make some extra money for studies. She is a complete knock out, 1.70m, thin, full of curves, beautiful long black hair and honey coloured eyes, breast firm and tender. I couldn’t believe my eyes. I felt like the Big Bad Wold about to eat the Little Red Riding Hood.
Beautiful feeling.
So I invited her into the living room and offered her something to drink. She asked for a Coke so I went to the mini-bar. We starting chatting she told me about her studies, and that she is in the final years in a private university. Her father lost his job therefore she is into this business for a short period, enough to finish studies.
Then we went to the room, cuddle a little in bed, and I invited her to get comfortable.
We strip down to our underwear and I started to caress her sexy body as she also caressed mine. I told her how beautiful she was, and she liked the compliments. We both were very relaxed with each other, so after a few moments we went down to the hanky panky. I just can say that she was very sweet and tender, and she really treated me nice. We took two rounds on the roller coaster.
Afterwards we chatted for a while, just relaxing and enjoying ourselves… beautiful feeling.
My taxi came to pick me up so I had to rush, get dressed and get the hell out to the airport.
She allowed me to take pictures of hers as long as it doesn’t show her face.
So I took one and my fucking camera ran out of batteries, and I didn’t had the spares with me, so I only took one picture. I promise her not to show her face so I altered the picture.
Here it is
http://mr.chencho.freeservers.com/colombia_bogota_page002.htm
All and all I had a great time in Bogota, and I will come back again in March2004, as I have already planned Jan2004 to Caracas and Feb2004 to Mexico DF.
Next time I think I will adventure out into the streets and try to pick up a chick on a disco, defiantly I don’t think it is too complicated.
Ahh, one more thing: Some level of Spanish speaking is fundamental or you are out of the game. When you call the agency they speak some English but the girls don’t.
Yours truly,
Mr. Chencho
Will be arriving in Bogota on January 10 and I'll be around on and off until the end of the month. I'll also be up in Cartagena for at least part of the time. Anyone else going to be in Colombia then and want to get together for a night on the town?
I will be in Bogota the night of the 20th of February/2004.
If any fellow monger is in town, we might hook up for beers and to explore the mongering scene.
PM Me.
Best regards,
Mr. Chencho
Hello Mr Chencho
We’ve PM a bit late last year.
Nice report/pics you uploaded. I’m looking forward to my departure for Cartegena in early April.
BTY, you described her body as a monument. I think sculpture is more appropriate, don’t you agree?
Have a good one. Have many.
NYC Expat,
I am glad you liked the report. I will be in CPH the week of the 2nd of feb, but I will go with a girlfriend. Something Interesting happening in town those days?
Best Regards,
Mr. Chencho
Mr. Chencho
Things here are uneventful the past few weeks with the darkness and either very cold or rainful days and evenings.
If I see/hear anything for that week, I'll PM.
Keep in touch.
Hey fellow mongers!
I'm finally getting out of friggin' cold Canada and will be in Bogota for 2 nights before heading off to Cali. What I need help with is. Can someone tell me where I find a "bloody" good brothel with quality chicas and where I can do the shagging in house? Might be frowned upon if I bring her back to where I'm staying. Oh and what time do these places close? My flight gets in at 21:30h I hope It's not too late by the time I shit, shave & shower.
Cheers,
Rufus
PS. Anybody wants to meet up for a beer and check out the local talent, I'll be in Bogota Feb 9 & 10. Send me a PM.
Rufus,
For good quality but at a high price try:
Transv 33 #123-30 6200700 150,000CP or 53 USD for 2 hours
For a good value try
!!A_BARBYS!! Calle 116 19-57. 6200586 $50,000CP 18 USD for 30 minutes.
I had a good time at both.
Big Johnson ... are these two places you mentioned daytime only places or are they open at night also ... thanx
Rufus: IF you speak good Spanish AND you don't mind being the only gringo in the place, try Whiskeria La 49, Cra 13 No. 49-77 (288 8773). Best after midnight (open until 5 or 6!), do NOT buy a bottle (just order beer unless you got $$$), and BARGAIN to no more than 100K INCLUDING habitacion. NOT an area to stroll around, but there is ample security at the door to safely get you inside from your taxi.
I could tell you some cheaper locals only places near La Candelaria, but better you try La 49 first.
Ricker
Transv 33 was OK at 10 PM but it is best from 5 PM until 8 or 9 PM. I think if you call ahead, there will be at least a few to pick from later at night. You may have to tell the guy what you are looking for but he should accomidate you.
Barby's gets better at night. They get talent from the downtown area after 5 PM. The only problem here is there are only 2 on site suites. You may have to wait for your room.
You won't find many Gringos in these places either. Most of the Gringo traffic can be found in the strip clubs. Places like Porkies, etc. Even then it won't be like the Blue Marlin in San Jose or the Termas in Rio.
Thanks Big Johnson.
Man let me tell you cra 13 - 49 THAT'S one place i will not recommend to walk around just go in and out ASAP.
There is a LOT better places to go than that...
I'm a Colombia guy, living outside now ;)
Thanks Big Johnson and Surfer, quality!
Surfer, I don't speak Spanish but I don't mind being the only gringo in a place either. Do the local lads care if gringos hang out in these places? I think I'd rather be in a place where the chicas don't see many gringos too.
Cheers,
Rufus
It is great to be back in Bogota. As soon as I reached my hotel last night I called Chuscas (www.chuscas.com) and ordered up some company. My place at the World Trade Center, Hotel Bogota Royal, was somehow hard for the girl to find--it took her over an hour to show up. I had Vanessa, 20 years old, slim, friendly, and cute looking. We got right to it. No french kissing or fingers were allowed, but she enjoyed oral and gave a nice CBJ. After she finished me by getting on top I was pleased that she did not want to rush off. We cuddled and stroked for awhile until I got another hard on, then it was my turn on top. Colombian women have this unique talent to basically raise their legs in the air almost over your head, which is fantastic for pumping away. The other thing I love is the price, 120,000 pesos or less than $50 for everything. I look forward to a few more samples this week.
on tuesday i called up extasis (www.e-extasis.com) and requested alejandra. she was recommended earlier, but i am not sure that i got the same girl. anyway, she arrived promptly and could not have been more friendly. she has a pretty face but is a little heavy. i would say that she more than made up for this with her enthusiasm and cooperative attitude--fingers, kissing, etc. were no problem. (however, it was strange that she had no condoms of her own.) she liked oral and we had two vigorous sessions. it was only supposed to be for an hour but it ended up more like two. in between she gave me one of the best massages i have ever had--she has some training as a physical therapist. the 110,000 pesos was a bargain and i added a generous tip.
Keith,
I will be there from next week and stay at same hotel.
This is my second business trip over there.
Do you know Hotel Bogota Royal charges for a company coming over the room?
It is so embarrasing when you check out with a receptionist.
But have a good time and write more information over there.
Thanks
Keith,
Thanks for the reports and links. Your skepticism about the pictures is well founded. I recognize a couple of chics from Argentina mixed up amongst the pics.
Hotel Bogota Royal does charge 70,000 pesos for guests. Maybe you can build this into your room rate. I had them put it on a separate bill. Show no shame! As the receptionist told me, you have to relax after all the hard work.
FYI, avoid Jadira on E-extasis. She's worthless.
A hottie from an escort service in Bogota. She's originally from Cali.
Another view of my beautiful Calena, Vanessa.
I have done many P4P's last year and this Calena is on my top three list. She had me shaking afterwords! She's only 18 years old too! I am still flabbergasted.
My favorite one of her!
JT,
What is the name of the escort service?
I am staying in Hotel Bogota Rayal.
Give me some advice.
Thanks
JT,
I'll be in Locombia in April and would love that 18-year-old Caleña!
Where can I meet her?
To be honest, I don't recall the escort agency. It is something like "chuco . com", but I am sure my spelling may be off. Or was it "chulo . com" or "chucho". Hell, I can't remember. Sorry guys.
She was definitely on my top 10 all time best lays. Totally amazing coming from a 18 year old hottie!
Maybe it was chuscas.com? Tried them once and it was very satisfactory.
El Culion
Try www.chuscas.com
Take care
Latintraveller
Bingo!! Thanks!
Much obliged guys.
I'll give her a try.
JT,
Which one of the girls of chuscas is she? Can't find her. What's her name?
Saturday 21st of February.
It is 10:00 AM and I’m sitting in a small café in El Dorado Airport, zipping a glass of “Red Bull”, “salsa” music is playing, “El Jalala” from the 70’s. I’m waiting for my flight to my final destination. My computer is in front of me and I start writing this report.
My mind is wandering about what I have experienced last night. I know I have to put it in words, to share it with you all, but honestly, I don’t know where to start.
Maybe the best starting point is the actually the beginning.
Yesterday, I arrived to Bogota at 5PM, changed US$300 into pesos (rate 2600) and took my taxi to the Windsor Hotel in calle 95 and 9a (more info about the hotel in my previous report).
People at the reception remembered my face and welcomed me in the best of possible ways.
I checked in to the best suite in the hotel, it cost about US$100, breakfast included.
By 6:30 PM I was settled.
I started to wonder what to do. If to call a girl I have been with before, Alejandra (more info in my previous report), or if to call Jimena.
Jimena is a “chica” recommend to me by a fellow monger, who claims that she rocked his world up side down. She is a Semi-pro, working on a bank during the day and escorting during the nights.
I was also jetlagged from my long flight from Paris, so I was even considering not calling anybody.
I had a copy of “El Tiempo” in my room, so I had a look to the ads about escorts.
One ad catch my eyes. It was from the agency chuscas (http://www.chuscas.com)
I remembered some good reviews posted here about the agency so I decided to give them a call.
A very nice girl (Andrea) answered the phone, and we started talking about services and prices.
I asked her about one girl for two hours, etc… and then she made me a proposal.
She said that they had a promotion, 2 bi-sexual girls for 1:15hrs at 315,000 (US$120).
Mmm… interesting I said.
I know myself so in order to take it easy and have no rush, I need two hours.
I asked the price for the same trick for two hours. She went and asked somebody (the boss I assume) and came back with Pesos 450,000. Not bad… considering the prices paid in Europe.
However, this was Bogota so I decided to bargain. I said Pesos 400,000 (US$153) and we close the deal immediately. I also told her that it was the first time for me with this agency and that if the service was satisfactory for me, they could count on a loyal customer, with a good network (all of you) to recommend their agency.
Well, the answer was YES. So it was a done deal.
Then we started talking specifics. Which girls I wanted from their web page.
Actually I hadn’t look at the web page so I told Andrea to choose for me. My only requirement was for them to be slim, and that they had experience working together already. I wanted them to be “comfortable” with each other and fun.
She said that she would call me back.
Five minutes later, Andrea called me back and told me that she got me the best duo the agency had to offer, that the girls were very close friends, and that they mostly work as a couple.
So I had a date for 8:30. I decided to be good to the girls (and protect my mini-bar) so I went out for a store nearby and bought, half a bottle of Wiskey, a six pack of beer, Peanuts, M&M’s chocolates, a bottle of water. This actually proved to be one of the smartest things I did.
At 8:30, I received a call from the reception; Maria Fernanda was downstairs. I asked the guy to let her in, and 2 minutes later they were at my door.
I was fucking shocked. There they were. Two of the must beautiful girls I have ever seen in my life.
Maria Fernanda is a real blonde, blue eyes, 1.60mts, slim/Atletic body, white skin, short hair, Beautiful big boobs (fake), Her stomach is the kind that you would expect from an Aerobic instructor.
Tatiana, is a “Piel canela”, 1.60 mts, long hair dyed dark blonde, brown eyes. Her body is a “walking sin” and exudes sensuality. She is voluptuous curvy. Natural breasts.
I can continue describing the girls, but everything I say will be short from the truth.
An image is worth a thousand words, so by the end of the report I will post their pictures.
I walk them into the living room, and offered them a drink. Maria Fernanda went for the beer and Tatiana for the Wiskey, I did the same and served me a Wiskey.
Maria Fernanda went for the peanuts and Tatiana for the Chocolates.
We started chatting, and we definitely made good connection from the beginning. We started laughing about our sex lives and the crazy things we do.
Maria Fernanda is studying Journalism, and Tatiana is working as a Bank-teller.
In fact they normally escort together. Both of them had boyfriends.
They asked me what I wanted and I told them that I was told that they were the “hottest and best show in town” and they started laughing like hell. We were having fun.
After a few drinks, all of us got a little tipsy, so I suggested we moved to the room.
So we did. I asked them to get comfortable, I played some slow music in my computer and they started to do a strip show for me. It turned out that the girls were really into each other, so the show was one of maximum quality, lots of wet kisses, breast rubbing, ass grabbing and pussy licking.
They jumped into bed and I took my camera. Since they were tipsy, they were actually thrilled by the fact that I was to take pictures (specially Tatiana), with the only condition of no faces.
The fun was getting hot in bed and I jumped in for a kissing and licking session.
My friends, this was an explosion for my senses. It got really hot and I felt like in a porno movie.
I won’t get into explicit sexual details, but I can say that I fucked two times each of them, and every time while I was fucking one of them, the other was active, either playing with me or with the girl. Tatiana got very excited about the camera, so while I was fucking Maria Fernanda, she started to take pictures of us having sex. It was as hot as it can get.
I had to do a condom switch every time I switched girls, but I actually didn’t mind doing that.
DATY, BBBJ, Finger fucking, wet kissing, ass touching (no anal sex), and all the positions you can imagine. For Tatiana my favourite position was Doggie Style, so I could enjoy here sensuous ass. And for Maria Fernanda, missionary with me kneeling, as I was able to enjoy her pretty face, beautiful breasts and rock hard stomach.
We all had fun. At one moment, Maria Fernanda started laughing when I was having sex with Tatiana, as she told, me “I know the face she is making, she is having and orgasm”.
We kept having drinks and snacks during the short breaks. We went like this for 2:30hrs, but I was only charged for 2hrs.
It has been the best sex of my life, so far (hey, there most always be room for improvement).
The girls asked me for copies of the pictures so I made them a CD on the spot, they were very happy about it.
Guys, if you are in town, call chuscas and ask for the girls… you will have the time of your life. However, I believe it is necessary that you speak some Spanish to connect with the girls.
I have decided that it is not elegant to show the pictures that Tatiana took when I was having sex with Maria Fernanda, I believe you are not interested at my “Mr. Chenchito”.
So here are some pictures of the girls.
[blue]Mr. Chencho's photos posted in the Photo Gallery.[/blue]
Next month, I will travel via Quito. I have a fellow monger living there that has the “appropriate” contacts to have serious fun. I also will visit Prague and I am planning to visit the famous K5.
Cheers mates.
Mr. Chencho
OK, here goes nothing. I will be traveling to Cali Colombia on March 16th. But before I get there I have a layover in Bogota for 2.5 hours. Im sure by now you guys know what im thinking. Anyone have any ideas on how I can make the best of this 2 hours while in Bogota? I would not mind going to a nearby airport hotel or motel to bang out a cute chica. So if anyone has any numbers of cute inexpensive girls that would not mind keeping me company in bogota for my 2.5 hours send me a PM or post the numbers or ideas.
Cheers
I had a 5 hour sit time once in Bogota and grabbed one of the official cabs from the airport to a casa de chicas for a quickie.
I don't know if having 2.5 hours is enough time:
putting luggage away and find cab = 20 minutes
getting to a casa = 20 minutes
selecting chica, etc = 20 minutes
having fun with chica / clean up = 60 minutes (or more)
back to the airport = 20 minutes
getting your luggage/security = 20 minutes
Uh oh ... you just missed your flight.
Advice: sit in the airport, check out the hot chicas, do some flirting, you never know you may get a number from someone.
Save your $$ ... Cali is much better and cheaper than Bogota.
You'll find that hot chica in Cali in just a short time.
That's what I would do anyway.
Suerte!
Ricker,
You are a funny dude. Your right, the last thing I want to do is get stuck in bogota on my way to Cali! I think I will take your advice and just flirt and practice my spanish in Bogota. I cant wait!
Senor Free Sex ...
With the $$ you save from not wasting your time in Bogota ... run over to Kaliente or Flores Frescas and buy yourself a high quality chica your first night in Cali ... those places are little more pricey than others in Cali but top quality.
Suerte!
Bogota experience on March 2nd. Was staying at la Boheme, a smaller place in zona rosa. Asked the guy working the door if I could bring and lady back, and he said yes. I had already checked out the internet sites of Chuscas and Xtasis, but nobody seems to get the chick they ask for (not that they aren't as good), but I have something about wanting to see the lady before making a commitment. It is hard to describe, since I like all types, but there is this essence or combination that tends to make me desirous or not.
Anyway, I asked the door guy what is his advice, and he said let me get you the right cab guy. He went over to the street and found a cab he liked, who drove over to me and took me for a ride. I tipped the doorman, by the way, not much, but a tip.
The taxi drive took me to a video bar. Wasn't that far away, went down inside (no cover charge) and the place had about 20 chicas. I was early, only one other guy there besides me. They all stood up on the dance floor and some grooved a bit, others stood and talked, all trying to make me want them.
One in particular, who looked good, but not THAT good, made an effort to get in front of the others and make sure I saw her. It reminded me of the prettiest girl in high school who was the cheerleader who just KNEW she was the best one. Not my type. Instead, there was another that I had spotted on my way in, who had very nicely said HI, but was hanging to the back. I asked the waiter for her. The waiter had brought me a beer, which wasn't that much 8,000 pesos ( just over $3). I tipped him 2,000, or 10k for the beer, about $4. He charged me the same price for a beer for her.
We talked the issues at hand and she told me that the bar fine was 30,000, ($20) and she wanted 150,000 ($75). I asked her time limit, and she said 2 hours, but if she was having fun, she wouldn't be sticky on time. I had one more beer while she finished hers.
We went back to the hotel (the cab had waited for me and didn't really charge me for the service) Hotel guy didn't say anything so we moved on up to the room.
Once inside she wanted to take advantage of the hot water shower, which we did, and then got down to business. It was a great first round, with her loving my eating her the precious fruit and she gave me a decent bareback ride. Then time for the condom and she we rode it out for awhile, until johnny couldn't muster nore hardness. She claimed to have gotten off twice, once with the tongue work and once with johnny working. I didn't though, which was okay for me. Up until this point she was a really good GFE. she had two beers from the mini-bar and I had two Chivas.
We got a breather and back to work, and she got really excited again; and even commented that this was rare for her, that she normally works at getting the guy off, doing the work etc. (typical ho fashion, no?) This time she wanted to ride on top, and we did that a while and then rolled her over for some doggie style, but alas, johnny still didn't cough up his goods before relaxing. She said that she couldn't beleive it, I still hadn't terminado, but she had cummed three times. That this was a bit hard to believe. By now the truth was coming out; which was that she really was a clock watcher.
It was obvious that finishing me off was going to take more effort than she was interested in and went to bathroom to get cleaned up. I rolled over and thought about snoozing since I was tired, it was late, and I was pretty enebriated from having had three cocktails in the bar before sharing a bottle of wine with a friend before even going out to chase pussy, beers at the bar and the scotch...it was late.
Anyway, she started hounding me about taxi money, and I told her I didn't argue her price and (without telling her directly, I hate winers). She wasn't that happy, and I wasn't that sympathetic. I don't like it when they change their minds in the middle of the event. I know they all like to get in, get out and have the $ in hand, but she wasn't living up to expectations, one of the things we all take a chance on.
Everything else was nice, and in a normal evening, had I not been tired and pretty liquored up, I probably would have popped a lot sooner, and the amount of sucking and fucking we did was really quite a bit, much more than an average turned trick.
She was very attractive, and for the price of $75, I could't complain. I could have done her there, but the bar fine was the same as the room, so you do the math.
I understand that there are many of these video bars around and one could have a taxi driver find as many and whatever type you like.
The nicest thing about any Colombian city is the incredible number of just really attractive women walking around on the street. I hope my need to conduct more business in the country increases so I can have more experiences, regardless of their outcome.
Please welcome me as I have grown up from a lurker to get info to a full grown monger, where I can post info to you good fellow folks. First, to those that have been to Rio, Termas as they exist in Brazil dont exist in Bogota. The city isn't a traditional monger city, but it is not dry at all.
I need to tell you all about club Lido: Address on Calle 95 near Carrera 15. (This is Zona Norte). I had the best monger experience of my life here with a gorgeous Colombian, 5'7" with blonde streaks, D-cup tits, and thighs you can backstroke in. Club Lido in general tries to have you spend all of your money on liquor- Don't buy a bottle! Any of the beautiful girls will come up to you in this place, that is basically a girlie bar with an occassional show. The girls in here are stunning and you can pick your flavor as if it was ice cream. The pretty girls will ask if you will buy them a drink too. Don't be a sucker guys, that's not what you're here for and these chicks start building expectations-Don't ruin things for the rest of us. That goes for paying too. I've found that in Bogota, the women generally know their worth and in Lido, she started out with $100 US. I got her down to $60 and know that I could talked her down to less if I had pushed. She was so breathtaking that I was sucked in and didn't haggle as I should have. You have the room for 2 hours for $30 US and you pay for the girl separately. Go late and get the best deals and if your johnson can handle it, use the 2 hours on 2 different girls. It was not determined how long the $60 for the girl was for but I was with her for one hour until I got bored. It included BJ, titty smash and yummy doggystyle. These rooms don't have sex so we did the deed standing and on the couch. Knowing Spanish goes a long way in Bogota and I should note that I don't know what I would have done if I did not speak Spanish. You can definatey handle your business, but you will be charged gringo prices. Bring a mini-calculator too for all of the converting of money (about 2500 pesos - $1).
Hey, Guys next week I am off to Colombia.,
Did anybody use this site or their service.
www.escortsbogota.com
Bolivia pussy,
Save your money, there are other web sites that will do you a better service. This is the only one who wants you to pay to see the models! And when I finally got to see the pics, they were copied from argentinean escort sites.
I might suggest to do this:
Go to http://clasificados.eltiempo.terra.com.co/varios/index.php
select on Tipo de negocio: "Servicios"
and then, select on Sección: "Adultos acompañantes"
You will find direct providers, other escorts sites (people around the board seems to have experimented with www.chuscas.com with satisfactory results), and incall houses.
Regards,
Yikad
Folowing the board recommendation I want for www.chuscas.com. Big mistake! Called the agency, they told the price is 130 for a hour, and that the girl will be with me in 40 minutes. One and a half hour later, still no girl, I called the agency to cancel the order.
They said that they will pass message to the girl.
Another hour later a call from the reception, the girl has hown up.
I said ok, she can come in. The receptionist said that there is a surchage of 70.000 pesos if the girl enters my room. I agreed.
The girl comes in, and she is obviously intoxicated. She also has bad breath. I sad no, and she starts demanding 60,000 pesos for the taxi. I gave her 30,000 just to get her out of my room.
Bottom line: I am poorer 100,000 pesos, no pussy and evenig lost! I will not recommend this agency.
I also used in the past Stars Escorts (advitesed in El Tempo) they charge more 170.000 hour but the service is more reliable.
Hi fellow mongers,
I went to Bogota in January and had four dates with three girls:
1. Sofia, a well hung lady from e-extasis.com. I doubt that she is the one from the pictures, but her dimensions are quite similar -small frame, big, beautiful bust- D-Cup. Her face is just a 6. I booked her for an hour, and it turned out to be quite disappointing. No kisses, no breastjob without condom, CBJ, but she didn't like MISH, at least she was quite talkative and knew a lot about music. Paid 130.000
Not recommended
2. Alejandra from e-extasis.com, fellow Mr. Chencho recommended her, so I asked him for her private phone. That turned out to be a good idea, because like this she got all the money and I got all the fun. She was blond now which in the beginning kind of irritated me, because, as a german, i am not really looking for claudia schiffer lookalikes in south america - I have enough of them at home and they bore me like hell. Anyway Alejandra was nice and sweet, with a very sweet face with full lips and a well curved body. C-Cup breasts, a bit saggy though and a wonderful latina butt. She very apreciated the beer I had bought before (heavily recommended to offer latin ladies a drink!) We agreed on two hours for 200.000. She stayed half an hour more. On the menue were DFK, BBBJ, 69 and a lot of differnet positions. Alejandra is highly recommended
3. Jimena. My first and last experience. I booked her via escortsbogota.com. a service I don't recommend (see below). they ask you 20 dollars to see faces of pictures that are -in parts - stolen from the internet. Jimenas pictures were indeed fake. I changed a lot of e-mails with a lady from the agency that made sure that jimena would come to my hotel (tequendama). she arrived on time. A petite beauty, 26years, white with black straight hair, a very very nice face, slim, but curvy, very well manered, a bit shy, which was because she is just a part-time pro. she is a university-trained accountant and works in a big bank the whole day. but when it finally came down to things, she changed into a real tiger. no details here, but beleive me that this lady was clearly my best lay in three or so years of hobbying, real fantastic kisses, real orgasms, sweetness, tenderness, and no holes barred!
It may have been chemistry as well, but I think, this one deserves very much to be highly recommended.
After our second round we talked about money, I asked her how much the agency gives her for these two hours. she said 120.000 pesos. I paid 130 US-Dollar to the agency, which was about 350000. I got angry about this rip-off, so I proposed that she could visit me another time without the agency involved, which she did four days later.
But the agency must have had some informant in the hotel and afterwards they kicked her out of their service and menaced her and her family, which in colombia is something to be taken seriously. So, it happens that jimena is out of escorting since january. In a recent e-mail she told me that she would be interested in meeting somebody from time to time again, because her income from the bank just doesn't pay for the living of herself, her daughter and her parents.
So, if any of you should be interested in her mobile number, send me a pn.
Note: I am not her pimp or anything, I am just a monger from germany who had a very positive experience with a rather bitter aftermath for the lady. So, please understand my intention to help - the lady and any of you who wants to have a hell of experience in Bogota.
BTW. Jimena just speaks spanish!
saludos toby
Toby Gru,
Thank you for the report. That sucks for Jimena. It's a standard thing that if a girl tries to get rid of the middleman the middleman will drop her. Let's hope that she gets can get work with a different agency.
Ferolga
Toby,
Good reports, in all.
I share your preventions on the people of escortsbogota.com, as I stated on a previous report. I might ask you via pm for Jimena's number in a month, when I come down to Bogota again.
For all of you other guys, I do understand your need of finding good web site escort sites, but my advise is to better go out to the night clubs and find yourselves someone who you have chemistry with, and who you can see has a good attitude. Over my 15 years of mongering in Bogota while I lived there (I was born there), I always found someone to spend the night with at Lido. I still do when I go there. ANY cab driver knows the location.
Regards,
Yikad
This is the update on Bogota.
A taxi driver suggested Extazy club, so I went at about 9:00pm. There were about 10 girls, and I was the only customer.
A beer was 18.000 pesos. All girls were smokers. I asked the price, they wanted 200.000 pesos to go to my hotel, and bar fine was another 80.000. All the girls were smokers. I left without sampling.
Went to Estrato6 at Trasv 33 #123-30 Tel. 620-0700, as someone recommended the place earlier on this site. This is a private house, looks ordinary from the outside.
They also do outcalls. On the phone they told me that there were 15 girls on site, and that the cost is 200.000 pesos for an hour.
However, when I came there, only 3 girls were available. Picked a cute 18 year old from Antiocia. Turned out that this is her first day in the place. The service was so-so, and very fast. She only blowed me for a minute, and would not carry on. Sex in doggy and missionary. It was all over in less then 10 minutes. Ater this she got up and dressed. I felt ripped off.
I can recommend the Abijitas massage parlour close to zona rosa, see www.abejita.com for details. This is the best value for money I have found in Bogota. They charge 26.000 for a very good massage on the table and extras are 40.000 for blow job or 60.000 for sex. This is an incall place. Higyne seems to be very high, losts of paper towels and alcoghol dispencers. As for girls, Pilar is highy recommended.
For the outcall, the best was Angels Escorts, that advertize in El Tiempo newspaper, they charge 170,000/hour. But they insist to talking to you AFTER an hour to verify that the girl has performed all the services that were promised, and to ask whether you are satisfied with the service. Nice touch.
Hello amigos,
I want to ask you a few questions regarding Bogota. I want to visit this place, after reading all your reports. I'm from California and seems that all flights are pretty expensive, but seems that it would be worth it. I will be going on May 30 to June 6, if anybody wants to join me, please let me know.
Well my question is
How expensive is the transportation?
Has anybody tried regular night clubs?
Whats the exchange rate nowadays?
Thank you for your help and I hope I can see some of you soon.
If you need any help or information on Tijuana Mexico, let me know...
My email is guapo_t@yahoo.com
Take care
The Man
The man,
Here's the info you request:
1. Transportation is very cheap, but you need to make sure you ALWAYS call for a cab and are picked up by the cab sent by the company you called. The best thing you can really do is make friends with ONE cab driver and stay with him all the time.
2. I have been visiting night clubs all my life, since I am originally from there. There are all kinds of night clubs, but some I can reccomend are:
a. Lido (Cra. 15 Cl. 95)
b. La Mansion (Av. Pepe Sierra close to the North Highway)
c. the group of night clubs on Cra. 15 Cl. 86 (Extasis, Casanova, others)
d. Casa 123 (look for previous references on the forum).
When you get INTO the places you will be checked for weapons. Generally speaking, when you go out, if you are leaving alone, you will be offered by a lot of people the chance to go to private houses. Depending on how adventurous you are, that could be a nice option, but again, always use the same cab, even if you have to pay him to wait for you.
The best exchange rate you will get is right after passing customs, BEFORE leaving the doors. I usually find the exchange houses at the RIGHT to offer better rates. It should be around $2.550 pesos per dollar. As a reference point, you should expect to pay anything between Col. $100.000 and Col. $300.000 on night clubs for the girls, depending on the club, the night, the girl and your negotiating skills.
As with anything, do your research on the forum befire going, there are some chica friendly hotels, and others that will charge additional.
There are cheaper places for quickies, like Abejitas (Cra. 14 Cl. 83). There is a bunch of other places, which I would advise to avoid if your spanish is not good.
Any other questions, I'll try to be of help.
Better NOT to use the exchange services if you can help it. Loads of ATMs all over the place give a better rate, though they'll only give 300,000 - 400,000 a pop.
Current rate of exchange is at http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=USDCOP=X&d=c&t=2y You'll only loose 1-2% on this.
I will finally be in Bogota from tomorrow to next tuesday. If someone wants to share experiences, PM Me.
Toby,
I PM'd you for the phone of your girl, but no response. Did you check your private messages?
Regards,
Yikad
I will be in Bogota in from May 30 to June 6, unless you guys recommend some other city in Colombia. How about Barranquilla? Keep me informed on Bogota, since I need to buy my airline ticket soon.
Also, I was wandering in hotel intercontinental, has any of you guys been there? Thank you for all your help. I will post pictures and experiences once I come back.
I might bother you with some more questions regarding Bogota, but I'm kind of nervous going to solo to Colombia.
The Sofitel in Bogota is a very nice Hotel. I was there with my G/F so i dont know what their policy is on bringing girls to your rooms.
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The Man,
The Intercontinental is a rather large corporate hotel. It is near downtown, where it is noisy and busy.
You would be better to look for a place in the northern area of Bogota. Try the Embassy Suites, 101 Park Place, or the Cosmos.
Good luck and enjoy!
April has been the wetest month in YEARS in BOGOTA according to locals. It has also been VERY cold so any visitor expecting a tropical climate should be forewarned to bring a jacket. Also, dressing tropical will make you stand out EVEN MORE increasing your risk of being targeting by criminals. The risks are real so use GREAT caution when venturing about, ESPECIALLY outside the Zona Norte.
Well,
Here I am, getting ready for my trip to Bogota. I'm a little nervous, since is the first time I'll be in Colombia. This is my plan and please tell me if I'm making a mistake, since I'm new in this hobby. I met a girl in the internet, I have seen pictures of her, and spoke on the phone for a few times with her. She is from Cucuta, she is willing to travel to Bogota and stay with me for a few days. I want to see her, but I also want to know other girls, but I don't know how hard would be to get a non-pro in Bogota. I'm in my late 20s good looking, I speak spanish, I have no trouble picking up girls in Mexico, US etc. Well you might be thinking "What is a guy like this doing in Colombia?" Well, I'm married but still like to go out sometimes.
Thank you guys for your advise on the hotels, and I guess I want to stay in la Zona Norte. Are there any regular Discos in zona norte or are there more in zona centro? Your advise will be appreciated.
The man
I'm going to give you my silly regular advice. Get the Footprint guide.
All the good clubs are on the zona norte. I hope you are aware that the days to party in Colombia are Fridays and Saturdays, with Thursdays being not bad. The rest of the week is a lot quieter.
There's the malls for meeting women during the day.
Do yourself a favor and take your girl to the gold museum. You'll thank me for the idea, if you didn't already have it in your plans.
Finally, google the words "rumba" and "bogota" and you'll get a few links that tell you the latest about the nightlife in the Athens of South America.
Ferolga
Gentlemen,
I completed my trip last week, but only now I've managed to get my backlog updated. Here is the report.
If you look at a previous report from Toby Gru, you will find his experience with Jimena. I was intrigued by it, and he was kind enough to provide her contact information, so I called her while in Bogotá, and we went out.
Gentleman, she is exactly what the doctor ordered in terms of a sweet GFE. As she works and studies, don't expect to meet her during the day; we met at night, on a friday, at a restaurant. We chatted for a while, and then we went to a good, quit place (not my place).
After a point, it becomes unnecessary to describe in detail what a session is; for those of you into that kind of thing, read Anais Nin; suffice it to say that you are in for a very intense experience with her. We never discussed any money, nor did she ever mention it; I chose what to pay, and did so at the moment of saying good bye. I gave her the equivalent of US$75. Believe me, very well deserved.
For those of you more into the bang for the buck, I went also to Abejitas (cra. 14#83-23), in the zona rosa; a long selection passed before my eyes, and I selected Carolina, a very nice girl; an hour of a very unrushed service, light massage included, for Col $100.000 (USD$40). Abejitas is open on business hours, until 10pm, 7 days per week, and in my different travels, I have always found someone to my liking there.
The two experiences will be enhanced if you guys behave as gentleman; it is people you are dealing with, don't forget that. If you treat them like your girlfriend, they will behave precisely as that.
I wanted to let everyone know that the Embassy Suites is chica friendly. The only thing required is that the lady has to register with the front desk.
I recommend that you book a " double" instead of a single room, so that they will not charge anything. Another way to get around the system, is to go to the bar or the restaurant first, and then go upstairs.
I have taken several to my room without a problem.
What are the safty concerns regarding travel between Bogata and Medillin and or Cali? Should one fly or is it safe to drive?
I understand Cali is pooners paradise? Was going to go to Cartagena but the touristy style or ambience and the touts have made me change my mind and try a more real Columbia and probably less expensive.
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Will arrive in a few days. have so many questions I'd be happy to get answered
1) How much is a plane ticket bogota-cartagena return? good place to buy it? is it dangerous to go by bus? price?
2) How much is a plane ticket bogota-Rio de Janeiro return?
3) Good recommendations for discos or bars to meet freelancers, that is not bars with barfines etc. anywhere in Colombia.
4) For mongering. I am 27 Y O and have got 2 months to pass in Colombia, where should I go? I am not interested in the brothel scene or other "in house" sex parlours.
5) Best cities and places to meet non-pros who are possible to have a fun time with even the first night?
There are so many experienced guys on this forum. Please give me some advice so my first time in Colombia/South America will be great.
thanks
BOG-CTG flights: Aerorepublica is cheaper than Avianca. Do a google search to find their website. Generally, you can just buy the ticket the day before except on holidays etc. Buying domestic tickets BEFORE arriving is stupid, you'll pay through the nose. Taking a bus is BEYOND stupid (just by you asking makes me wonder if you are prepared for Colombia-this is NOT Costa Rica, the Dominican Republic or Mexico). Cost of airticket should be about $100-$140 RT.
Flight to Rio will be close to $1,000; MUCH cheaper to return to Miami THEN fly to Brasil (or use FF miles-25,0000 and Varig is a partner with United); BOG-GIG Flight is NOT nonstop.
Regarding where to go, depends on your Spanish ability, Third World travel experience and risk tolerance. I CAN say that Bogota is NOT the best choice (more costly, more hardened attitudes, cold climate, LOTS of stret crime etc.).
Finally, despite but some guys here may claim, "good" girls in Colombia do NOT put out the first night except in extraordinary cases. This is why the wise monger uses hookers late at night (after taking good girl home) during the mandatory waiting period. By the third night, however . . .
Good luck (which you'll need more to stay safe than to find friendly chicas).
1226: I was VERY bummed I had to cancel with Jimena (had a good reason). She seems VERY sweet (we spoke on the phone), and she is VERY cute (she emailed me some pictures).
Toby GRU: Send me an email so I can send you some pictures. Danke.
Surfer,
You missed it :-)
Toby has been very kind in being the one who initially found Jimena and in sharing with us.
Toby,
I received your PM regarding other locations and additional info on Bogotá. I DO have such information, let's put it on the board when you actually are going back.
There's a lot of other guys who in my humble opinion are doing the wrong use of PM'ing me for detailed info that can be obtained here in the forum by a simple reading of the posts ... I'd be glad to answer specifics, bit not to write complete manuals on PM.
Regards,
Yikad
Surfer!
Thanks for the quick reply. Well I have travelled extensively in Asia and Africa for years and I have done a lot of overland travelling although considered stupid in some places, but I guess when the plane ticket is so cheap there is no reason to take a serious risk.
Places I usually like are typical pick up discos like Nana disco in Thailand, or new florida in Kenya or martini in Cambodia. or bars where frelancers come to like LA cafe in The Philippines, Al's bar in Uganda etc. It seems like LDV in Cartagena would suit me. When I read through all the posts here there is seldom any info about good discos to find freelancers or bars where they hang out, but instead a lot of info about "brothels", expensive bars where you choose a girl and pay an expensive barfine etc. Nothing wrong about that but I usually don't like that very much. Maybe it is that places like LDV are few and far between in Colombia. I guess I will find out soon.
ALL - FARC is out bombing the hell out of different areas of the country (Northwest Colombia (normally safer)). Many dead and many wounded.
This to celebrate the 40th anniversary of their start of the "war."
Please see the link below for the CNN story:
http://us.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/americas/05/23/colombia.attack.ap/index.html
Good Luck and please be safe. Gringos are easy to spot and although that might help you with the ladies, it also makes you an easy target for the FARC.
$Bill
Here is some more info on the attacks:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/americas/05/24/colombia.40.years.ap/index.html
Please be safe!
$Bill
Toby,
Member #1226,
Or everybody else, please if you know please PM me Jimena's phone number.
Thank you!
Siesta
Hi fellows:
I will be working in Bogota in the 2nd half of June, but with plenty of time available for rumba. If any gringo is around at that time, he may let me know so that enjoy some good time in Bogota.
Best,
LDP
Hi guys!
I have my first trip to Bogota on July, it’ll be a business trip so I’ll be free only at night, I prefer the room service than going out, I’d read the reports about Chuscas.com and e-extasis.com, both agencies have good reports so I’ll give them a try.
My questions are about payment:
1-How do you pay them, with a credit card or cash??, how is this process??
2-I’d read that every body change dollars for Pesos, don’t they accept dollars?? Or it will be more expensive if I pay with dollars??
Any other suggestions are welcome, but remember that I prefer the in room service.
Hawk.
hawk --
i've never tried paying with a cc but i'd be very surprised if it was accepted. or maybe i just need to go more upmarket! :)
if you try exchanging cash you'll pretty quickly learn you're being raped by those guys - you can get much better rates from the atm, though you'll be limited to 400k per transaction.
it used to be the case that colombian nationals had to pay an additonal tax for money exchanges, but this may have been abolished.
but either way your dollar will go further for the girl if you do the exchange yourself: if you're just reluctant to venture out then hotel reception will usually do the exchange for you too: just keep the lube handy to lesson the pain.
On flights...
Avianca regularly have special fares to major Colombian cities from FLL, MIA, and NYC. Details are at http://www.avianca.us/ and you can sign up for a newsletter if you wish. The booking process is a real PITA, but worth it.
If you're coming from elsewhere hold a reservation with them then book a connection -- it'll usually work out cheaper than a single ticket. Just make sure you leave yourself enough time to make the connection even if your flight is delayed.
Internally try Deskubra -- I got a flight plus top notch hotel for less than half of the price of either alone. Recommended.
LittleDickPride.
I'll be in Bogota mid june/july let me know and we can have a aguardiente.
There are some interesting places downtown which I would like to check out.
Mamey
Addicted: Any more details on Deskubra are appreciated.
AddictedToWomen:
Thanks for the information, it looks like the better way to go is the ATM.
Any other recommendation about "in room" services will be appreciated.
Hawk.
Hawk, ATM is the way to go; there are several in the airport. ATMs in shopping malls often have lower limits than 400K though.
Hawk
Cash from ATMs is the way to go. The general limit has just been reduced from $400,000 to $300,000.
There are no ATMs in the international arrivals area in El Dorado and it´s not really a good idea for a first timer to exit and enter the departures area.
I would suggest that you acquire a small amount of Colombian pesos before you arrive. The cab fare to most hotels is less than $15,000. (Just as you exit the arrival area is an office which will issue you with a piece of paper which states where you want to go and how much it is in a taxi, the tip is included). When you arrive at your hotel they will tell you where the nearest ATM is. There are thousands, so there will be one very close to your hotel, possibly within your hotel.
Here, I am assuming that you speak spanish. The Bogota newspaper El Tiempo has hundreds of ads every day and most offer outcalls. If you look further down in this section you will find the URL. Expect to pay about $140,000 for a minimum of two hours.
Although You say you prefer incalls, club life in Bogota is a lot of fun. But do be careful. Never, I repeat never, trust a taxi driver.
PM me if I can help further.
Take care
LatinTraveller
Beavis will be here tonight.
There are still some ATM's from Servibanca and ATH which dispense up to $400k at a time. Anyways, you can still make multiple withdrawls up to your banks limits.
It was great there for awhile, some ATM's could dispense up to $800k at a time. It made for some good profits in the currency market.
Mamey
Hawk: Maybe I've been lucky but I have NEVER had a bad experience with a taxista and have made friends with several. Use good judgment of course, but not every taxista is a ladron IMHO. Sounds like Latin Traveler has had bad experiences (though he gets good prices-15K is a good deal unless your hotel is close to airport. To Zona Norte Hotels or Tequendama is generally about 20K (including tip).
Going back inside to departures area at El Dorado Airport to use ATM is no big deal IMHO. I also have asked taxistas to stop for a moment while I run to an ATM on the road-there are TONS of them! But LT's point about paying the service fee and changing $50 or so at the currency exchange booths in arrival area is not a bad idea either.
Guys suggesting repetitive withdrawls miss the point IMHO; you get hit for $3 for EACH transaction by your US bank, plus the Colombian bank will tack on a service fee as well. These fees DO add up. Second, walking around with more money than you expect to spend that night is NOT really too wise in a country with a HIGH crime rate. Why carry excess cash? MY MO is to take out 400K per day as needed but I use my credit card wherever possible. And when you go out at night do NOT bring your wallet! Bring your cash and a photocopy of your passport; while TECHNICALLY you are supposed to carry the original, I have passed DOZENS of checkpoints and NEVER carried my original passport. The risk of loss/theft is MUCH higher than the risk of being arrested for not having the original of your passport.
Also, there are LOTS of agencies cheaper than 140K in the classifieds of El Tiempo. The ones with English speaking receptionists, websites or large advertisements will OF COURSE charge more. IMHO, taxistas often know cheaper agencies not frequented by gringos where the range is more like 60-80K (plus 10K for taxi fare to & from your hotel). Some hotels make you come downstairs to meet the girl creating some "walk of shame". Tequendama does this.
I agree with Latin Traveler that nightclubbing can be quite fun in BOG but, again, the gringo friendly places like Extasis or La Mansion are at upper end of price range. I much prefer Whiskeria La49 (details should be below in an old post of mine) but NOBODY will speak English and you will be the only gringo (and it is in a DICEY area so go STRAIGHT from taxi into club and do NOT walk around in the area).
ALL of this is predicated on you speaking at least passable Spanish. If you don't, I STRONGLY suggest going to Cartagena instead. SAn Andres is the other area where you can get by with English alone, but it is a place to BRING a chica, not a good place to FIND one.
Sure wish some of the guys who post in the Cali folder would read this helpful and civilized thread; ANY discussion of ATM/bank fee issues (or anything besides where to find chicas, what acts they perform and how much they charge) is "off topic" to them.
All of this is, of course, strictly my opinion which all are free to disregard.
Surfer -
Great Post! Very informative and nicely presented.
I agree that newbies to Colombia need to read this kind of information in order for them to safely navigate in Bogotá/Colombia.
And like you said, those that know Colombia and the ATM situation, can simply skip your post if they choose so, but that should not stop anyone from posting information that can help at least a couple of mongers.
$Bill
DB, Que paso ******? RIDICULOUS airfares are causing me to avoid Colombia until they drop on September 1. But the trip you MUST make is this November for a VERY special event. Call me to discuss it.
Beavis in Bogota? Is this the SAME Beavis from the private boards?
A la orden
I wrote the Spanish word for "man", but it got censored because it is also part of the name of a somewhat similar website. Oops.
Anyone been to "Free Women " lately on caracas and 61. I hear they have a live sex show?
I mention this place because is so accesible, since it's right in front of the Transmileneo station.
Mamey
Surfer,
Thanks a TON for the information.
I am heading to Bogota at the end of August and I have to admit....I would like to do some mogering - visiting saunas, massage parlors, etc. - but as a very blond American, I am more than a bit scared!!
Is Bogota worth the risks???
Thanks to anybody who has tips and wants to share!!
Foss
Foss
I was in Bogota in late December. I walked every where without any incidents. I was with my G/F'S family though,usually with 6 to 8 people. I did see many clubs, but was unable to check any of them out. Bogota has a great bus system. I plan on returning on July 5th for 2 weeks. I will also be going to Bucaramanga,which i liked alot more than Bogota. I observed many beautiful women there. It is more like Central America in its climate and scenery.
The guy who takes buses around Bogota has cojones (balls)!
Bucaramanga does have a reputation for lots of hotties (known a couple, but never been to Santander Department). Might go next month.
Foss asked "Is Bogota worth it" to which i must ask "Compared to what"? Compared to ANYWHERE in North America, I'd say Yes. Is it the best place in Colombia for hobbying? I'd say no.
If your Spanish is SOLID, and you are risk tolerant, then there are LOTS of better cities. If NOT, and if you LIKE to see other gringos once in awhile, I'd opt for Cartagena instead. BOG is cold, crowded and less friendly, and GFE from PROS is harder to obtain, but there are TONS of options and lots to do. And there are lots of non pros who LOVE blonde gringos. The Paisa (people from from Antioquia, where Medellin is located) are often blond, so worry LESS about pigmentation and MORE about language skills and dress.
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Foss said
"I am more than a bit scared!!"
I wasn't going to say anything and leave you to your own abilities, but I grow weary of the terror campaign.
Bogota is not Switzerland safe. It's Colombia safe. Chances are that if you stay in the zona rosa you'll be as safe as any wealthy Colombian.
You will stay at a fancy hotel, you will go to the expensive chica clubs and call the expensive escort services. You will not care about the price. Why? Because it's safer!
DO NOT go out walking at night. If you need exercise tell the hotel and they will get you a temporary membership at a health club. I walked out everywhere at night. But I'm big and crazy and no one will miss me when I die.
Ferolga
thanks all for the info!! good to know that blonds are popular as i have blond hair. yipee...
i'm don't subscribe to the terror fever either - but just being careful...
perhaps i will just go to a club and buy drinks for people and hope for a nice non-pro gfe. who knows....
i will report.
any massage places worth a look?
thanks,
foss
I will be in Bogota the middle of August, is anyone else gonna be in town that same time ? El Conejito
Thanks for all the useful information.
I’m going on a business trip so there is no option, it is Bogota, that’s why for this, my first trip, I’d prefer the outcall services, Spanish is not a problem for me, but I’ll wait for other time, I would like to make some locals friends before I can go and explore the night in Bogota.
I already know that my Hotel will be Hotel Capital, near the airport, I think somebody report something about outcall services at Hotels near the airport???
Hawk.
Hawk
The capital is indeed very close to the airport and vry far from the action.
If you can change, I would recomend the Casa Dann Carlton (94 con 19) or the Dann Carlton (15 con 103). They are in a much safer area and possibly mopre interesting.
If you need more info; pm me
Take care
LatinTraveller
Hotel Capital is QUITE nice and not in a bad area safetywise. There isn't anything nearby though. If you are using outcall services, who cares if it takes an extra 15 minutes for the girl to arrive? Taxis are cheap. The issue is more about restaurants, bars etc being far away. Just my 2 cents.
Just got back from a week in Bogota. After 10 years of traveling to Colombia, I still believe Bogota is the best city for ladies of the night. The Lido is still great. Chuscas.com was the only honest web-based outcall service. I always stay at Charlies Place for my hotel. Try Bogota Beer Company, a microbrewery in Zona Rosa for hot babes hanging out.
Ron
Hi all,
New to the forum. And learning so much, despite the fact that I have been to Bogota 8 times and spent over a year there.
I originally went down there to find a "nice" girl, but lo and behold discovered the "finer" establishments, mostly the clubs. I got pretty adept at them, but must admit I know nothing about the web outcall services, or the massage places or picking them up on the street, or any of that.
One thing I discovered amazed me vs the hookers here. Many are just part time and many many of them you could convert to your girlfriend in a week. In fact, a buddy of mine is marrying one of them! Down there they don't really "choose" this line of work, they simply turn to it out of desperation, because of not finding a job, because of having a kid, or because even if they found a job the wages are on average around only 300,000 pesos a month! I maintain that after meeting ten of them a person could find a great wife out of this endeavor. I realize most of us aren't looking for that, but just threw out the comment.
Now, to show my naivity, can I ask a few questions from you experts?
1) I see you all talking about the cost of incalls, outcalls, etc etc.. I see the hints you talk about about not buying them drinks and about how it is better to deal with them late at night or after the club closes, and on and on. But my question is: What if you find one you like and want to keep her around? Do you or can you just pay her for a week and have her on-call just for you? And how much for this option generally? I suspect you would want to do this personally with her and not thru whoever they might work for or through.
2) Is it better to pay her up-front in the room or afterwards?
3) Do most guys like in-call or out-call?
Thank you for your input on my 3 questions.
By the way, a little something I learned on my recent trip...again, maybe of no use to you, is: The girls seem to get paid 20,000 a nite in most of the clubs, just to be there. A little more if they dance on stage. They also make a percentage of the drinks they sell, usually 10%, but only on the individual drinks and not on the bottles. Many of the clubs REQUIRE them to stay til closing, but not all. And as I said, I know nothing about massage places or anything else. I go in and drink slow, since I'm not there to make the club rich on overpriced drinks.
I'll be down there in September if any of you want to be shown around.
Thank you very much.
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Capital and Sheraton 4 points in Bogota are next to each other, and own/run by the same owners.
Both are located in a nice residential area, and there is a shopping mall near-by.
But there is no bars/club/etc in the area, and Zona Norte is 14.000pesos/20 minutes taxi ride.
Be prepared that if you want to take a girl into your room, both hotels would want to regester the girl's ID at reception and charge 70.000 pesos for an extra person in the room.
It was mentioned on this thread the average wage is 300000 P per month.
Question for the experienced members living in Colombia. Can I survive and/or possibly support a wife (GF) and 2 teenagers with a minimum monthly income of (USD 1450) 3.6-3.9 million pesos.
Can an American find a job with his english fluency as an advantage on the job market. My spanish is limited today but I am learning.
Thanks for any serious reply.
As to your post, yes, it is possible to support a family on that amount, but it would be better to have more. The main expense is rent and rent runs all over the map in Bogota, depending on the area you want to live.
Knowing english is not necessarily a help. Getting jobs there is tough, especially with no spanish. Jobs with multi-nationals are highly coveted by the locals. Basically, as in this country, the only way to get a good job as a foreigner is to be able to offer a skill that can't be had locally.
Most Americans seem to gravitate toward teaching english.
NYC,
$300k a month is not the average wage in Colombia. But, $360k a month is the MINIMUM wage allowed by the government to an employee. So the average earned, obviously would be more than $360k.
You can easily find a decent place to live for about $600k a month not including utilities and the like. I would say for less than a million you can do ok. The rest of your money can be for expandables.
Anyone else mongering in Bogota now?
Memin
Hi guys.
Thanks very much for your response. It is CTG that's under consideration since she lives there. I'm aware extra income beyond the min. I already receive would be helpful.
Will check it out while I'm there 2 weeks from today.
Enjoy.
Ok, I will agree that maybe the minimum wage there is 360,000 pesos, but the reason I said average is because SO MANY PEOPLE are making this wage, or no wage at all. A very high % of people there make this wage. It is an economy with a huge population of poor and a small middle class and an even smaller upper class. But you are right, the average is probably a bit higher.
And it all goes back to my statement I made before of why so many girls are attracted to this kind of work, especially the ones with kids to support.
I am still shocked that my best friend chose one of them as his fiance, but I wish him luck and my best!
This is my first post and I hope you may find it helpful. I found a new website (www.adorenet.com) which is really good. Pictures are actually real. Most colombian web sites use fake pictures downloaded from the internet. I recommend Carol, very nice, sweet and friendly. Not in a rush. (PM for her mobile number) Avoid Katerin, Exactly the opposite.
Massage parlors: Abejitas is allways a good choice. They have two places. Ask for Erika in Av Suba No. 102-73.
Anyone willing to venture beyond the Zona Rosa, will find that in El Centro you will find exactly the same girls and even better and younger talent.
Im talking about places like "Las Paisas" "El Castillo" and "La Piscina." Piscina was the top about a year ago, it's on a decline now, but the whole area is attracting better operated businesses, and safer too!
Still, I wouldn't recommend for a newbie as it can appear to be a little dangerous around this area. Don't get too drunk, don't act stupid and you'll be ok.
I'll be going to Pereira in a few days if anyone can give me some info I would appreciate.
Mamey
Went to the Adorenet site, seemed kind of spendy.
I have read all the posts for Bogota, and I am surprised that you missed this club... it is called Juan Pablo's, but I think it also goes by the name of Zhivago's. In the north. Very friendly place. There is a take-out fee, but if you leave the girl can follow in a half hour or so and no fee is collected. It is at Cra 18, #93A
Look for a blonde, her name is Lucia, not her real name. Speaks perfect english, no lie. Say hi to her from William from Portland. If not interested in her, pay her a few thousand pesos to help you translate with another girl. If your spanish is weak and you want help.
Also, by the way, I have tons of Delta miles leftover from my business travels. If any of you want some. It takes 35,000 to get to Colombia, let me know and I'll make you a great deal. Since flying to Colombia can be very expensive from some cities in the U.S. I just don't need all the ones I got.
Bill
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Sorry guys but I do not have Jimena's fotos or pictures, sorry. Toby GRU has her email & phone number.
Another way to monger there is to go into some of the so-called normal bars that cater to foreigners. Several in Zona Rosa. They may look like normal bars, but they are full of working girls, and not too hard to spot.
Guys,
Several of you have been PMing me asking for Jimena's contact information. I would not have a problem in giving it away, but I sincerely consider it is Toby Gru who must decide who to give it to, since he is Jimena's friend and he was kind enough to introduce her to me.
On other notes, I visited Bogotá again last week, and had two different experiences to share:
First I went to the area of Cl. 86, where Casanova and other clubs are located. IMHO, Casanova has always been the best of them, so I chose it.
I met a girl (of course) there, which made me spend a nice time; we spent a couple of non rushed hours talking and having fun; it is my experience that if a girl is asking you what are you going to do after only 5 minutes of conversation, she will probably be a rushed experience. Also, my personal method of deciding who to go with is to let them come to me, since if I have to call a girl, she probably will not be interested in me at all, only the rushed money.
For all of you who are asking yourselves the girl's name, to be honest I don't remember; we went upstairs and the total cost of the night was Col$80.000 for drinks (4 beers), Col$100.000 for the room and Col$200.000 for the girl.
That for those of you who don't know the numbers, that's Col$380.000, which equals about US$140. I probably should have called Jimena, but you all know that we are suckers for variety.
Also, following recommendations of previous posters, I called Chuscas.com the next day, and was told there was a new girl, for which no pictures were available just yet; her name is Alexandra, so I got her for $160.000 for 90 minutes.
Alexandra showed at the agreed place with some delay, she is a nice girl, who also happens to work at Lido (an old favorite site of mine since 12 years ago); she was featured on one of HBO OLE's documentaries about sex in Latin America. Her performance was not up to par, though.
So, there you have it, guys, this hobby remains hit and miss even if you know the territory well.
Keep posting!
#1226: Agree with most your points but you are paying WAY too much at Casanova's man. ST should be no more than 100K +room. Seeing as you have been going for 12 years, I asume your Soanish is good so no reason to pay gringo price. Try Whiskeria La 49 sometime instead of the ZonaNorte clip joints.
#1226, WTF? You'll probably admitted, but you're paying way too much.
All the places in the northern part of the city i.e. Casanovas, Casablanca, Zhivagos cater to the "gringo" crowd. Veteran (not in age) girls with attitude and many foreign boyfriends. Not GFE type establishments unless your willing to drop a lot of $$$$.
I always balk at paying $20,000 for a beer, most places will make a second offer but still, it's crazy how much they gouge customers for.
Girls generally don't get a cut (ficha) of any of the drinks even $300k plus Buchanans, so obvioulsy, for the girls is not in their advantage to get get hammered, if anything they laugh at the fools spending so much money.
mamey
Ok,
I posted on the general board earlier about finding place in Colombia for some crazy mongering, like four guys and five chicks, for a week in the sun. Lezbo action, swing and swap, the works! The idea was originally my friend's, but it sounded so fun I got on the bandwagon too.
One guy suggested Brazil. Well, I did find a place in Colombia, in a resort town right outside of Bogota. And cheap. With a pool and privacy.
So solved that problem. Now I need the girls! And suggestions on how to best do this? We want to offer them a weekly rate. Thought about just finding them in the clubs. Don't really want to deal with an escort agency. I have no experience with SW.
Any ideas or other suggestions? Let's just say, I'll have a great trip report to show you guys later!
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Mamey, disagree a bit with you. I talked with my friend from Zhivagos. She says the girls get a 2,000 peso commission from the drinks they pump. Not the bottles, but the regular drinks. They may consider we're chumps for buyin' drinks, but they do seem to make money from it. I fight this B.S. by making sure I sit at the bar and not at the chairs away from the bar. I buy a beer and sip on it...slowly. And if someone hits me up for a drink, which they don't do at the bar that much, I say NO.
Bill12: finding a PLACE is easy, but finding 5 good looking chicas who are up for festinha like party is going to prove to be a MAJOR challenge IMHO. I wish you good luck because I think you'll need it. Not impossible, of course, but MUCH more difficult in Colombia than Brasil as most chicas (even putas) are NOT that open like the Brasileras.
guys,
i see some of you are disappointed at me for paying too much; i admit you are probably right, i should have asked in advance for the price; maybe i am getting rusty from not being on the hobby very often now.
on the other hand, i tend to disagree with the proposition that negociating too much with the girl is a good idea. i do prefer on a one week trip to have two good quality experiences (which most of the time i have) instead of three or four mechanical performances; there comes a point where you can guarantee you are going to get just that is you show you are a cheap guy. i am not saying that i don't get a fair price; just that there's a balance.
also, i tend to go to the places that cater to the "gringo" crowd, as you say, mamey, simply because that is where the best girls go! see, being colombian by birth, you can not amuse me just by having a round beautiful ass; i take that as a given. to have an elegant face and more important, more than 5 minutes of speech, is important to me.
off course, this time i was not lucky, but most other times i have been; that is the risk of the hobby.
regarding the 5-some proposed adventure, well, probably it is not going to be easy, but it does not mean it can't be done; yet, i would advice finding the girls in cali and flying them, since caleñas tend to be a lot more open to the idea. alternatively, to get to know them on clubs independently of each other might be a good idea too.
Thanks. Good responses on my five way party idea. I think, after hearing all your responses, both on and off the board, that we will tone it down a bit and have some regular fun, or semi-regular!
Bill
(If anyone is interested, I have a ton of frequent flyer miles leftover from my business flying. It takes 35,000 miles for a round trip flight to Colombia. I can offer them to you cheaper than you can get a regular ticket, PLUS they are good for a FULL year and any changes are FREE. If you have flexibility in booking, feel free to "private message" me for details. They are especially valuable for those who live in the north or who want to be able to change their flying dates)
Hey guys,
I am bill12 friend with this crazy idea. I agree with you that it is the best idea. What if the girls called someonne in Bogota toattack / rob us in our vacation home? Do you think it is dangerous, and I have traveld thru 1/2 of Colombia with bus. What do you think?
KWkids
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Member 1226 said:
<<To have an elegant face and more important>>
In case this matters. I do believe you are Colombian from your word choices. That gets you points on my book, whether it matters to anyone else or not.
In case I missed it. What are the places that you prefer for a good time?
Thank you for your contributions,
Ferolga
Hi,
In Bogota I like Unicentro for non-pros, Charlets in Zona Rosa for semi-s and pros. I usualy stay at Charlies and do all my shopping at Pomona, but I am also looking for better ideas.
KW Kids
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Went to Charlotes on Saturday at 22:00, but could not see ANY "semi pros" or "pros", many regular Colombians thought, from young to old age. Waitresses are beatiful, bud do they semi-pro?
I lived in Bogota from 1997-2000 and returned last year August again to teach again. I usually hit Piscina maybe once a month, prices are resonable, but some of the girls work at other clubs two blocks away for almost half the price and then they go to piscina after 6pm to earn more money.
Charlottes is good for semi-pros and regular(but gringo-hunting girls), I've picked up a lot of girls there. I usually hang out in Zona Rosa , for regular girls but living here I have the time to invest .
I'm a member of ******* and act as the informal Bogota liason for that site since I live here.
Anybody heading down let me know , we'll tear the place up!
I have to agree with Nick. They were everywhere when I was there at Charlotte's. And no, I don't think the waitresses are pros at all.
Have to disagree with Nick a bit though, a bit. Most I met in there were more than semi-pros. In fact, one worked at the the "finer establishment" I go to!! She was just slummin' that nite!! Probably trollin' for higher paying dudes in there.
But he is right as to the fact there are a lot of gringo-hunting girls there. I met one, but she had a kid, and was kind of strange. For all I know, she probably wanted a "tip" !
Bill is right that there are some pro's who go there to try and pick up clients.I'd say about 3o% on a Friday or Saturday. I've had a few situations when the girl said she was a pro, usually I blow them off. If I want pro , i'll head to a club or casa.
There are usually enough gringo-hunters who you can take home who are interested in dinner and snagging a gringo husband. I live here so some of those girls are interested in trying to get a "real" boyfriend who'll take them out of Bogota when their time is up. (yeah right, but it does happen) Many of them are secretaries , or bank tellers etc.
A lot if the foreign guys who hang out there happen to be working in Bogota with a multi-national company and some time with an Embassy(watch out for the French Embassy guys , those bastards will hit on your girl the minute you head to the bathroom ha ha !)
Hello fellows,
I was in Bogota a month ago and tried the massage parlor abejitas in carrera 14, calle 84. It was very good, a nice massage and then complete service. I went in the afternoon, about 4 pm and seems this is the best time to go because as they close at 10 pm (they seem to have shifts) so if you go in the morning not so many good looking ones are there, the best ones come at 1 pm for the afternoon shift.
I picked Ivonne, she was beautiful, very nice black long curly hair. She did everything except BBBJ or CIM. However we fucked in several positions, and I even did DATY, she had a small, shaved pussy. I CUM in her gorgeous breasts.
She was also very kind and really wanted me to have a good time. She gave me her cell phone number but didnt have time to call her.
The price 120.000, all inclusive. (45 USD)
I have tried many other places, even the ones in the center. There is a red light district in calle 22, carrera 14 (avenida caracas). There is plenty of places there, a big one near avenida caracas called "La Piscina". In la piscina a singe shot (30 min) will cost you between 40.000 and 60.000 (14 USD - 22 USD) depending on the girl. The place is clean but lately not so many nice girls are there. There is in fact a pool in the center where there is striptease in teh night (after 6 or 7) depending on how many customers are present. I tried a few of them and sometimes it was good, sometimes not so good, i think that rather depends on the girl and on her mood.
A kinda better place nearby doesnt really have a name. To find it go in calle 22 direction west, two streets and turn right. The place is in a yellow garage door. Right in front there is a parking place. You can't miss it. There are lots of girls inside for all kinds of tastes... There are also different kind of rooms. If you go to the end of the bar, looks much better (near the entrance is just an old house) and the rooms are clean and new. You just sit down, have a beer (3000 pesos) and look around. Most guys there wont go for the very pretty ones because they are locals and just want cheap sex. I have been there several times and the best time was with Johana, she was gorgeous, 24, 1.65, 50 kilos (or less). She had very nice made breasts implants and she was willing to do everything. She gave me her phone number and we organize a whole night thing in my place for 150.000.
There are places in Unicentro, right in front there is a small shopping center and in the mezzanine there is a little massage parlor. There are few girls and they change all the time, sometimes really good looking ones can be found. However service isnot that good, rather go to abejitas, you will for sure have a good time there.
The night clubs are mostly a rip-off. Expensive drinks and expensive girls. Often many of the girls in those night clubs can be found in the center (calle 22) during the day.
Another option for a strip tease is a little place in carrera 15, calle 95. It is called Aroma y Tanga. Very nice girls will do a sexy striptease, you can talk to them and if you are lucky maybe get an appointment for next day. They seem to be kin on foreigners.
OK, hope this helps, I have used this forum for a while and this is my first posting.
Ryck
Thank you for your informative and substantive report.
What are the good places to look for non-pro action, if you know?
Thank you for your assistance,
Ferolga
Ferolga,
I am indeed, Colombian. I just don't live in Colombia anymore, which does not prevent me from going regularly on business. The thing is, I STILL know LOTS of people, so I have to be careful with the hobby, since even when Bogota is a big city, the places are really not that many, and they are usually near places of high traffic.
Since I was a teenager I have been a customer of Lido; I am talking about 15 years here! sadly, those are times which are not coming back, and I am not talking nostalgy; back then, you would simply not believe the beauty of girls that could be met there; since that time, though, it has become very common that scouters from Japan, Europa and other places take the best girls very fast and when they are very young, to make money from them there.
I have been to most of the other places many times, though I don't go to the center or the south; nowadays, the best deals are houses in the spirit of Abejitas, but located in Chapinero; you can get nice young women (18-22) on those places, and cheaper than the known places; YOU can pm me if you need directions.
The zone of Cl. 86 east from Cra. 15 has always been active, as well, but quality (for my particular taste) is not always the best. Please understand, I don't mean you can't get a good lay there, it's just that, as I said in a previous post, some girls can't hold a 5 minute long conversation; of course, they ALL say they study at a University, but 90% of the time that's false. Lido used to be different, somehow.
Also, places in the north tend to have more distinguished girls (again, for my particular requirements), but cost is higher. La Mansion is typical of this.
In order to have dinner, depending on your taste, Bogotá has VERY high quality cuisine, and you don't need to limit yourself to Harry Sasson; by all means, I challenge you to find sushi to the level of Hatsuhana, French cuisine like at San Isidro (in Monserrate).
In order to have a night out, any place at Parque de la 93 will do, as will any place by Cra. 5, close to the Plaza de Toros la Santamaría.
If you want to party with your girl, and she is presentable, places on the north, outside the city, continue to be the norm, particularly Andres Carne de Res.
Regards,
Me
Hi Ferolga,
There are many places for non-pro action. Colombian girls seem to be very kin on foreigners.
One of the best places is "San Angel" in park 93 (north east corner), there is a cafe and disco. Girls are gorgeus and if you look not too old or ugly you can score something. Off course those girls are just party girls, so, no brain and just party. If you want to have some "close encounter" with someone more interesting try to enrole in some group activity like GYM, or walks, even ciclovia on sunday in calle 116 or carrera 7a.
The best GYM (with the best girls) in carrera 19 calle 103 (in front of block buster) i can't remember the name but there are several branches of this gym around bogota.
Another good place is "Andres Carne de Res" more known just as Andres. It is in Chia so you need to find a way to go there. This is about the best place in town, open th, fr and sa only but until 6 am. I have seen the most gorgeous girls there, even the waitresses look great. To find it, take autopista norte and in "puente del comun" go direction chia. You will find a bridge, again take direction chia. After the bridge you will be in a boulevar, just drive straight and in the first traffic ligth go left. This is a big cross so you will not miss it. Drive about 5 km and you will find it in the right side. If you go on Fri you can miss it, it is very crowded and it has plenty of lights and those old style windmills with lights.
Another good oportunity is to go to bars where university students hang around. Again there is plenty near most known universities like Andes (calle 5 carrera 2, or Javeriana calle 40, carrera 7a).
Zona rosa is kinda going down these days, not so many nice chicks around but still if you are lucky you can find something. Anyhow is a good place for dinner, try Wok has a very good sushi menu or Di Luca has very nice pasta and italian food.
Well, good luck and see ya.
Oscar
BTW where are you from?
By that I think you are talking about "good" girls. I have met many in Bogota. Thru the agencies and around town. They like foreigners. The trouble is that you never really know if they like you or whether they just want a ticket out of there. And if it wasn't you, it might be the next guy that comes along. I moved one up to my city a couple years ago, but it didn't work out.
I always wanted to offer money to a non-pro and see what she says. Just a little fetish of mine!
A great place to eat. Huge amount of food, cheap prices, quiet atmosphere, is a place outside Zona Rosa called. It seems to have two name: either Palmetto's and/or Bermudas. You must try it, it is GREAT.
The Place Ryck is talking about that's 2 blocks west of Piscina is called Atunes. It's the best place to go (after Piscina), but it closes at 9pm and many of the girls head to Piscina. The cost is between $25,000 and $40,000 pesos , depending on the room/time. (20 minutes or 30 minutes)
I hit there about once a month with a buddy of mine .
About "good " girls in Bogota , if the girl has a good job and makes good money , she's interested in you for you. My girlfriend here is 26(I'm 32), blond , drives a SUV and makes more money than i do , there's no doubt that her interest is emotional.
Marriage agency girls are defintely looking for a way out of Colombia. I 've messed around with girls who I knew were only interested in me because i'm a foreigner(like many at Charlottes).
But I just play along for 2 weeks or so and kick em to the curb(diplomatically if possible).
There are many places to find regular Colombian girls who are straight-up, usually a good bet are the upscale clubs (Nabu, Syldavia, el Sitio), home to Bogota's young upper-middle class and wealthy. These places won't even let in some girls if they don't look like they belong. These are great choices for the younger traveller.
Charlotte's ,Bogota Beer Company and Mr.Babilla attract the "gringo-hunters" . Although most "good " Colombian girls would not evev consider entering Charlottes. BBC and Mr. Babilla have a mix of "good" girls and "grindo-hunters because a lot of foreiners who live here hang out there. The gringo-hunters won't even go near the Colombian guys(especially the upscale guys), because they know the Colombiano can spot their bullshit and will just screw them and dump them , cause they're very class-conscious.
To Nick26: Greetings!
I may very well start working in Bogota soon. If so, it would be downtown (El Centro). So, I consider renting an apartment in this area.
As this area is itself rather large, can you recommend particular sites to live. For example, is it better in the North of El Centro (at the border with Chapinero) or in its South? I look for something with all amenities next door (shopping centers, gym...).
Can you recommend a real estate agency or give any tip to find a suitable place? (I have already peaked at El Tiempo' ads). Thank you.
Regards,
LDP
Stay in a guesthouse first for awhile and then look around. It is the best way. I can direct you to a guesthouse if you PM me. Another choice is to stay in one of the extended stay places, but guesthouses are cheaper.
Then you have plenty of time to look for a furnished apartment.
If you want to find an apartment now, or later. Check El Tiempo, or
http://www.metrocuadrado.com/servlet/co.com.m2.servlet.MostrarHome
To LittleDickPride
Don't even consider to live in el centro. It is dangerous, dirty and by all means not recommendable. "Chapinero alto" could be better and there is a highway ring (Avenida Circunvalar) that will take you downtown in 15 minutes.
Still best place to live will be rosales or around andino in calle 82, i can't remember the name of this area but it goes from calle 76 till 90 and from Carrera 7a till 15, very nice place.
Ryck
Hey LDP,
Stay away from living Downtown, it's not safe and it sucks. I'll PM you and give you more input.
Hey I live here and I don't like going downtown at night, and during the day I never take my wallet.
People at your company will recommend somewhere further noth, .I`d reccommend north of Cahapiner as many parts of Chapinero are also dangerous. Chapinero Alto (above the Septima , Carreras 6,5,4) is better choice.
I'll be in touch.
So happy to be back in Bogota. There are beautiful women everywhere!
Last night I had a life altering experience with one of the women from adore.net. (It seems that the site is not working right now.) She was listed as Carol, but her real name is Jacqueline or Jacky. One of you other guys was kind enough to provide her direct number.
Anyway she is 26, petite (around 5 foot 4 inches), long light brown hair, with no body fat. She claims to work out daily. IMHO just the greatest body ever given her implants--I love large breasts on a slim woman. I would give it an 11. Did I mention that she is a part-time lingerie model? Not only was she fashionably attired, but her bra and panties were right out of Victorias Secret.
Her face is at least an 8 and she is a great kisser. She has braces but I could not have cared less. All in all she was even better looking than her pictures on the web.
But the final straw was the true GFE treatment: Talking, hugging, kissing, sex in various positions, massage, all without any rush.
Naturally this unbelieveable experience comes at a steep price--about $100 per hour. I will definitely be spending some more time with her before I leave town.
For you guys who have not made it to Bogota yet, you really should.
On Saturday night I called Jacky too late (I do not think she was busy with another client), and decided to test out www.e-extasis.com. A woman named Carla answered the phone and she spoke some English. Based upon her pictures and price (about $80) I asked for Celeste. Compared to a poor experience in the past, Celeste did arrive promptly and she was the girl in the picture. On the other hand, even at only 22 years old, she was pro all the way and could not be done fast enough. She has great tits, an OK figure, and a few weird scars. I would not recommend her services.
FYI, there are a number of services advertised in the local paper El Tiempo. Just go to the back of the classifieds. This afternoon I checked out Class Models. Marcela on the phone spoke good English. The cost is only 120,000 pesos per hour (under $50) and she sent over two women. They were definitely not up to the top quality in Bogota, but I had a quick session with Karin. I have better hopes for www.intimatescort.com after dinner tonight based upon my conversation with Camila and their website photos.
Hello to All,
A friend of mine on the forum has recently asked me for information on Bogota via PM. Instead of sharing my limited knowledge of Bogota with one, I thought I might open new discussion about information.I have been to Bogota 3 times for an average of 1 month each time.
First, lets answear the obvious questions. If you use common sense and speak travel-spanish you should not have any more problems in Bogota than any other S.A. Capitals.
If you have the touch then the malls will get you the non-pros. If you are looking for a wife try a marriage agency. I have met more than one girl who has a visa and will go to the U.S to visit you
and more.
Lookig for pros,SW, or just a fuck; Its out there! Bill12 help me, please.
KW kids
Keith,
Can you shed some light on something. On that same site, they list that one you had at 200,000, but several others like Nidia, Alexandra and Melani at 130,000. The latter ones looked hot too. Why the difference in price? Also, can you get them a future night without having to go thru the agency?
I cannot explain the price discrepancy. If your Spanish is better than mine, then I think that you can always negotiate future sessions directly with the girl and cut out the agency.
I finally made it to Abejitas. The one in zona rosa is less than 10 minutes by taxi from the world trade center. The entrance is only a numbered door with no sign. You walk up one floor. I would say the place is not the best massage parlor I have seen in Latin America (some very fancy ones in Costa Rica, Guatemala), but not close to the worst. What I like is that there is no gringo pricing, just 120,000 pesos (around $50) for anyone for full service for an hour.
There were only 6 girls on Sunday afternoon. I chose Patricia because she was so friendly and spoke some English, but in retrospect Johanna was better looking. The massage was just excellent--no rushing, light oil, complete front and back, sensual, with hands and breasts. We then progressed to a CBJ and finished with her on top.
I would rate the place worthy of a return visit.
Need some help here Bogota vets. Will be my first voyage into Brasil's twin sister, but will only have one night alone here. Will be in BAQ for the weekend, then laying over in BOG for the night before I return back here.
I have read through this Bogota thread, but need direct info. I do not have much time to waste.
What would be the best bets for one Sunday night for both one quickie (about 6:30-7:00 p.m.), then for a decent early-night pick-up spot for TLN? I'm staying in Zona Rosa.
I speak decent Spanish, so I do not want to go the high-end places where they quote the ridiculously-high gringo prices. I know how to negotiate, and when to move on to something new.
Just need some help from the experts here regarding the right spots to hit on a Sunday night.
Thanks in advance.
I forgot to tell you guys about Restaurant Andres Carnes. It is legendary in Colombia and throughout South America. An earlier report describes how to get there--it is about a 30 minute drive from downtown Bogota. I went with some of my colleagues on Saturday night.
We arrived early to get a table in the center of the action, and ended up leaving after 2 AM, drinking more beers than I could count, buying drinks for everyone who sat down with us, and still spending less than $100! The place is only open on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. I won't even go into the decor, which is mind blowing and unfathomable. Around 9 PM it starts to get crowded and probably contains several thousand people at its peak.
What distinguishes Andres Carnes is the unending stream of beautiful women parading through. This is not at all a pick up place--or a hookers convention like Cyclone in Dubai--but the average woman there is at least good looking. We saw local television personalities and numerous models all night long. I suffered from my poor Spanish, until I met a near 6 foot, rich, 10+ in looks, English-speaking 20 year old girl studying communications. As an American it is just unimaginable that these women will talk to you, dance, have a drink. My buddy refers to the really gorgeous ones as extra-terrestrials. They just don't suffer from the snobishness in most other countries.
This is a long way of explaining my extreme depression upon waking up this morning and wondering why I didn't visit Colombia 20 years ago, helped only slightly by Lance Armstrong's victory. The afternoon visit (below) to Abejitas didn't help much.
Thank God for www.intimatescorts.com and Juliana. This girl is from Manazales (famous to those of us who patronize the Golden Door in Panama). She is cute and petite, with long black hair and green eyes. She could not have been friendlier and is one of those rare treasures who just loves sex. Her response to intense DATY and other activities was impossible to fake. When it was my turn I got a ball cleaning better than when I take a shower and a CBJ to completion. Another session ended with me on top, and I was in serious danger of getting bucked off.
To Juliana's credit, the girls that run this agency are her close friends and she won't go around them. But the asking price is a very reasonable 140,000 pesos (around $60) per hour.
My depression is completely gone, and we have a return engagement scheduled for tomorrow. Can you believe that Jacky called me (also see below) and I'm blowing her off?
Last night in Bogota. I started with Juliana at 8 PM, short break, then Jacky at 10 PM. Sex with Juliana (real name Johana) is completely out of control, but Jacky was superb, too. Jacky has the greatest body (IMHO) known to man and always beautiful lingerie. Jacky is not big on any type of BJ, but excellent GFE attention. Juliana is the real deal in every way sexually, just not as good looking/figure as Jacky.
Given my advanced age (40's), Juliana is a bit young to parade around in public. Jacky looks closer to 30 so I plan on partying with her next time at Andres Carnes.
I will now officially die happy...
I've been through MIA one time on AA(to CR), but this time i'm flying out on Avianca, 1 website says Avianca is in terminal "A", another site says they're in terminal "F", who knows the real deal? Where is the currency exchange located? i'd like to have $50-100 in COP when i land in Bogota. The Rabbit
Sorry, it is:
www.intimatescort.com
KEith,
There are no pics on that site, not that ya can rely on pics anyway! Especially since the other sites seem to have their faces blocked out! But just inquiring.
Avianca in MIA ... terminal A ...
Exchanging $$ ... big rip off ... plenty of ATMs in Bogota airport and money exchange there too.
Check in EARLY. Long lines and thorough security check in MIA.
Don't exchange dollars in MIA. Do it in arrival airport or ATM's.
You'll need at least 2-2½ hrs. to check-in and security checking of baggage upon return flg. to US in addition.
I am a mongerer in Colombia, and post here often, but have excess miles in my frequent flyer account.
If your ticket is over $700 to get to Colombia, consider buying miles instead. It takes 35,000 frequent flyer miles to get to Colombia from the U.S. and Canada.
I have collected enough miles for 7 tickets, but please do not contact me unless the regular price of your ticket is $700 or more. Also, you need to be flexible on your travel dates, preferably booking a month or so in advance.
If you meet this situation, feel free to contact me, but please, only if you meet these requirements. If so, buying miles is a great way to travel and a real cost saver. Also the ticket is good for a full year and can be changed for free, making them much better than regular or bulk tickets.
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Again, i'll asked this question.....where is the currency exchange in MIA? (i only want $50-100)...i'm not worried about the rate on this amount....I LIKE HAVING THE LOCAL CURRENCY WHEN I LAND!! thank you to whom ever will answer this. the rabbit
There are numerous exchange places in the airport in Miami. Rates are bad though.
I myself don't bother, just using some leftover pesos from my last trip or hitting an ATM in the airport when I arrive. I have even had the taxi driver drive me to an ATM on the way to where I am staying in order to get my first supply of pesos, and end up paying him out of that.
Rabbit ... if you insist on exchanging money in Miami airport ... there are several locations.
Near the international ticket counters for AA, around the C concourse security checkpoint and also in front of the Domestic ticket counters for AA near where you have to turn to go to the E concourse ... both on the non-secure side of security.
Very easy to find ... any airport worker can show you.
Suerte!
Thanks Ricker, that was great info!!! the rabbit
Hi folks,
I'm hoping to get some information/recommendations from those of you familiar with the Bogota scene.
I'm flying Avianca to Buenos Aires via Bogota, which involves a stop-over in Bogota on the way back (a Saturday night). I went on Orbitz and placed a reservation for the Dann Norte Hotel (based on price...$42 for the night). Do you guys know if this hotel is ok? Are there better/safer/more convenient options than this?
The second question is, of course, about mongering. Where's the best place to go for my first time in Bogota? Are Casanova and Lido really to be avoided? I want to see the most beautiful working women Bogota has to offer. While I don't want to blow a wad of cash, I'm not out to pinch pennies either, since I'm only there for one night and want to make it truly memorable.
Thanks for any assistance,
GC
Custer: Dann is a fine hotel and $42 is not a bad price. I like Windsor Court (affiliated with Travelodge) which is in PERFECT location. You DEFINITELY want to stay in that area (near Atlantis or Andino (shopping centers).
If your Spanish is good, I'd suggest Whiskeria La 49 (details in one of my reports WAY up in this thread).
If you want the best, and in person, try the Mansion. Not cheap, but they are the best as far as the club scene goes. Any taxi can get you there.
Custer --
I concur with Surfer -- Casa Dann Norte is ok. Nothing spectacular, but ok. Its my preferred value for money hotel there. (4*, I believe). Astonishingly its cheaper to book it via one of its agents then direct. Make sure you book for double occupancy.
If you want to splash out a bit more for something better, try the Casa Dann Carlton (5*?). This is *much* cheaper to book directly.
CDN is closer to the Mansion; CDC to Lido, Zona Rosa, Parque 93. About 20 blocks in it. But unless you're travelling in the rush hour thats only a few minutes in a taxi.
*SURFER* -- What's the best deal you've wangled at Windsor Court?
DollarBill turned me on to the corporate rate he gets at Windsor Court, but I would not give out the company name without his permission. It is about 90K including taxes but rooms are LARGE, no guest fee BS and the location is simply the best IMHO.
Thanks fellas. I guess I'll stick with the Dann Norte and just taxi around. Given the recommendations, the tentative plan will be to hit La Maison in the afternoon/early evening and then bring a girl from Lido back at night. My Spanish is tight, Surfer, but I'm looking for knock-outs in my one night in Bogota, so, like Willie Sutton, I think I'll have to go where the money (gringos) is. If I had more time, I'd definitely hit Whiskeria 49.
GC
The Mansion is the best and most costly though so hit there.
As far as housing, I have generally tried to stay away from hotels, except on very short stays.
For longer stays there is a rich assortment of guesthouses and with those "extended-stay" places, which they call aparta suites. They (the latter) are cheaper than most hotels, especially for longer stays. But more than that they have kitchens and are a more homey experience than a hotel.
The problem with guesthouses is that you usualy have to ring a bell and have someone drag themselves out of bed to let you in late at night. And maybe no kitchen privileges.
La 49 is patronized by UPSCALE locals and there ARE some knockouts. Never gone there personally, but from what I hear La Mansion employs many opf the same girls that work at the Zona Norte gringo clubs but charges even more ridiculous rates. Personally, I think I would try high end escort services rather than Lido or Mansion but YMMV.
General Custer
The Clubs on carrera 15 and calle 86 have girls that are as pretty as at La Mansion or at Lido. The best club that I was at last year is Casanova, on carrera 15.
Monger on, dude
Ferolga
Yes, but doncha hate it when they attack you from all sides when you get there? I'm talking about those clowns outside.
Surfer -- Thanks. I'll see what they can do for me :)
On another matter --
Anyone got the correct address for Whiskeria 49? Remember trying to find it a couple of trips ago with no sucess. Is it hidden away?
AddictedToWomen,
Whiskeria 49 is on Carrera 13/Calle 49. Haven't been there in about a year. Too expensive, and the girls are not worth it generally.
There are better places. Try place next door, to the south of "La Fortynine."
I am now thinking of Bogota to add to SA tour.
At first I thought the girls posted were not really my type until I had a look at the www.chuscas.com/escorts.htm site.
Can you just tell me if the pros you find in the pick up club/bars are the same quality as these?
Do any speak any English?
I am thinking of Bogota as well as Buenos Aires and maybe Caracas.
Thanks
To Bill12:
Hola amigo!
Can you please provide a couple of addresses for extended-stay apartment suites? Thanks.
LDP
The fotos on www.chuscas.com are fake. They are taken from US porn websites, and the faces are masked off. If you look attentevely, you will see that skin of the many models is too white for colombians, also hairstyle, clothes ets are so USA.
Look to detail of furnuture, wallpaper, wallsockets, etc. These fotos were NOT taken in Colombia.
Also SURFER or some other bogota experts can you please post addresses and prices of LaMansion and LaWiskeria49?
To LilDickPride,
There are lots of extended stay places there. They are called apartasuites.
One is Fontana Plaza
Another is Apartaclass
Both should be easy to find on Google. Both are in the north. I have found that the price for two bedroom is generally the same as for one, so it is a lot cheaper to have a friend along and share the costs.
You could also stay in guesthouses, but they are a little too uptight for bringing bad girls in I have found.
The places I mentioned about are SUPER NICE.
The price in whiskeria 49 or "La fortynine" -as it is known nowadays- depends on the girl and it goes from 100.000 Pesos (32 EUR) to 150.000 (46 EUR) for one hour. If you look too much like a foreigner probably you will be charged more. Please don't spoil the market overpaying and do not tip them.
I had two great experiences with two young girls there. A lot of kissing, DATY, but no BBBJ. The ages were about 18 - 19 or probably even less, you never know. Some of these girls have fake ID's in case of police control. In any case both look great, smooth skin, nice faces, fit bodies.
I paid 100.000, but mind that I am 29 and I have a very fit body. I guess the charging also depends on how old/fat/ugly you are ;)
In "La Mansion" prices are from 250.000 onwards for 1 and a half hours. That is from IMHO too much for Bogota.
And yes, all pictures in chuscas are not real. The girl you get depends really on your luck. Once i got under the name Alejandra a really nice looking girl, she make BBBJ and CIM with no extra charge. Young, fit, nice attitude and very willing. In another try I got a old fake blonde with a ugly flat chest who claimed she was 21. it is a matter of luck. In any case you can just give her 10.000 and send her back.
Enjoy yourselves.
Ryck
La Whiskeria is on Carerra 13 with Calle 49.
Le Mansion is on Autopista Norte with Pepe Sierra (Calle 116)
Questions for the experts,
Is there a resonable, comfortable chica friendly hotel in the Zona Rosa? Casa Dann Norte mentioned in earlier posts is 20 blocks away,
Is this my best bet?
Also, Traveling solo 7 nights, How many nights should I spend in Bogota, and how many in Cartagena? I do speak spanish, and have experiace in Nicaragua, CR and DR. Yes, I know they aren't the same as Columbia.
Finally If any one is in town who'd like to meet up, The first beer is on me.
Any advice is welcomed,
THANKS,
Belmont
I'll be in Columbia from Sept 2nd thru the 9th.
Arriving September 2 for 7 days, first time in Colombia. Since I have to arrive in Bogota via Continental Airlines, I'll spend at least my first and last nights there.
Two questions for the experts:
1) Are there any resonable and comfortable hotels in the zona rosa? I've read of the Dunn norte 20 blocks away, is this my best bet?
2) How many days should I spend in Cartegena, and how many in Bogota?
Finally, anyone who will be in town who'd like to hook up for liquid refreashments and mongering activities PM me, first drinks on me.
As a first timer to Colombia, will appriciate any advice,
BELMONT
Arriving September 2 for 7 days, first time in Colombia. Since I have to arrive in Bogota via Continental Airlines, I'll spend at least my first and last nights there.
Two questions for the experts:
1) Are there any resonable and comfortable hotels in the zona rosa? I've read of the Dunn norte 20 blocks away, is this my best bet?
2) How many days should I spend in Cartegena, and how many in Bogota?
Finally, anyone who will be in town who'd like to hook up for liquid refreashments and mongering activities PM me, first drinks on me.
As a first timer to Colombia, will appriciate any advice,
BELMONT
Belmont, i just got back Sunday from 6 days in Bogota, i'd try to stay at least 2 days straight, i used suites real 85, can't complain its with in walking distance of Zona Rosa or quick cab ride. I felt very safe all over Bogota. the rabbit
I am looking for a city with good night life that has some girls that speak English.
Cali sounds out and CTG does not sound too relaxing.
I love the lighter skinned types.
Do you think Bogota is worth the trip, or am I better off just skipping Columbia and going to say Brazil?
Please help!!
Yes. Skip Colombia. Dead serious.
In my experience, you won't find many colombianas that speak english. So if that is what you're looking for, I agree with Ferolga777, you should skip colombia.
I thought some in Bogota would speak some, being a city / university etc?
So even there you think no luck?
So basically for me to make a seperate trip to Bogota/Columbia is not worth the effort?
Thanks for your help, it could save me a waste of time and money.
Plus, maybe being killed :)
Could any of you compare Caracas or Sao Paulo for what I am looking for, perhaps?
Caracas is a pretty rough town, and you won't find any English spoken.
Canadians, except in Quebec, speak fair English and the women are lighter-skinned.
Lots of people speak english there, but not many working girls do. I speak enough spanish to get by, but have only met one working girl that spoke english, and even with her I couldn't stand her attitude.
Belmont stay at Charlies Place in Bogota. It's close to the action, they speak English, party as a group, other Gringos stay there, local women hang out at his bar, and they will help you get whatever you want.
TravelMen, i just got back from Bogota sunday, i felt safer there, than some places in my town of 80K people!!!!! Bogota is great, but yeah, you need medium level spanish, other than that, it was the best trip i've ever had, i did have my "favorita"show me around for the entire trip! that was what made the trip! Sandrabbit
Dear Fellow Mongers,
Just finishing up in San Jose and ready for something new.
I am looking for a spanish speaking city where Massages can be had for cheap ($5) and the hookers do overnights for less than $50. Also a place where it is easy to find a girlfriend, that has cheap apartments and good cheap food.
Does this sound like Bogota?
Thank you for any help,
Happy Mongering,
Master Monger
Sounds like Bogota to me, MM.
Sao Paolo is QUITE pricey and not many people speak English. It also suffers from lots of street crime, though Avenida Paulista area is pretty safe. Rio is much easier to get around with just English. Fair number of lighten girls, but a real mixture.
If you can afford it, consider going to the FKK clubs in Germany instead. MANY white babes (from Eastern Europe mostly) and more English is spoken.
Is Surfer racist or bitter?
Your posts tend to show a racial bias against tanned chicks. If you are into white supremacy, isn't it paradoxical that you have to pay to get laid? Why not mingle with white American females, as easy to date as other nationalities? Is it because you are butt-ugly or you are crippled, such as dwarf or bald?
Take it easy!
LDP
LittleDickPride
I'm not here to defend Surfer. I just want to exhort you to read the questions that were asked before you jump in with your sarcastic remarks about Surfer.
He has answered a question that was asked. You reward him with you useless statements.
No wonder he wondered why I bothered.
The right thing for you to do is to apologize and delete you post. I will delete mine.
This is my last comment ever regarding anything you may ask or say.
Ferolga
Thanks Surfer
I did try a FKK once which was great fun.
I just wanted the Latin experience.
The FKK girls are nice but I think they lack the Latina passion.
Would you concur?
Agree with Ferolga, good of you to defend.
I agree with Ferolga777 that LDP must read the forum. Surfer was just responding to what had been asked.
I know Surfer outside of this board, and I know that his preference is for Morenas. (Latinas and Asians) (beautiful ones at that). And by the way, he is a white guy, and his ex-wife is an Asian. (so what does that say about Surfer the racist - NOT!!!)
LDP - say your sorry and stay off the thread for a few weeks and I am sure that Surfer will forgive your ignorance.
$Bill
If you read our past posts you will see that I am not a defender of Surfer. But I have to agree that he is not a racist and that is a pretty heavy word to be thrown around lightly, especially in today's politically correct world. LDP, you should read that whole string before you react to one small comment. Surfer was just trying to share some expience and information, which is what this board is supposed to be about.
This thread is amazing. Some guy asked about a place to find "lighter skinned girls" who speak English. I do not think Colombia is the best option for that combination, nor anywhere in South America for that matter, and suggested the guy perhaps try the FKK clubs in Germany. I have never made a secret of the fact that I STRONGLY prefer brown girls (Asian or Latina) to white ones. If anything, I suppose that shows that I am prejudiced against White people (yet I AM ONE of them!)
Somehow, LDP has concluded that I am a white Supremacist who is bald, ugly and crippled. He then seems to suggest I should try and date White girls in America.He even PM'd me his post in case I missed it.
My take is that LDP has either smoked too much angel dust or is a glue sniffer (brain damage). Yes the American educational system has declined, and yes reading comprehension scores are down, but PLEASE! The guy can neither read NOR write [his post is replete with snytax errors and lack of logical cohesion.
Travelmen: Really the best place for what you seek, blonde Latinas with passion, is SOUTHERN Brasil (Florianopolis, Curitiba, Porto Allegre). But few speak English down there, and Portugese is more difficult than Spanish so that may be an issue. While Rio & Sao Paolo have some loiras (blondes), the South is PACKED with them. Many look more German than Latin (many Germans and Italians fled to the area in the 40s). In Parana, there is even a German town, called Blumenau, that looks like it was transported directly from the Bavarian Alps.
Agree with SURFER that some guys on this thread and other threads on this forum are amazing with their questions.
I think some members are not serious and beneficial contributors. If you are interested in going somewhere, do your homework, read ALL previous posts, then book your trip if you are adventurous. I DID to Cartagena and Casablanca with no regrets.
China later this year.
Racial remarks are unwarranted and unacceptable.
You get what you pay for. If skin tone is your preference, visit Northern Europe. Home of blondes whom are bi-trilingual.
Now let's conclude useless remarks, immature questioning and contribute with experiences of the female gender. Thank you, Merci, Tak, Gracias, Danke.
Hi Surfer
Thanks for your reply. Hope I didn't cause you trouble on the board!
I don't even call it racist per sa, just that people have differant tastes which surely is not bad.
When I say lighter I don't mean blonde/white, but for me the darker tanned variety, but not black.
Just my choice.
Some of the CTG pictures did look great, and that is very tempting.
The Sao Paulo board does not sound that great.
Oh well.
Thank You for your responses,
Gentlman, I am Used to China and Indonesia where the girls almost fall over when they see me and give me the cutest little do-me smiles, so here is the question.
Are non-working girls in Bogota on the street and in the bars aggresive enough to smile, look, and meet half-way decent looking American guys?
Or where can I find this in Colombia???
I want agressive young women who want to do me!
Please responde soon so I can book my plane tickets.
Master Monger
Belmont,
Unlike what Ron99 said, don't stay at Charlie's Place. Most of the time there is only one or two guys there, if that. The rates are higher than can be had elsewhere. And it is only a 1 star accommodation, if that. The bar is not much of a bar, and rarely have I seen local girls there. There are so many better places to stay than there.
<<Belmont stay at Charlies Place in Bogota. It's close to the action, they speak English, party as a group, other Gringos stay there, local women hang out at his bar, and they will help you get whatever you want.
>>
Guys, where's "Charlies"?
I would recommend residencias in the Chapinero area. Around Calle 15 between 59-63. Very nice suites with jacussi (sp) for 60k pesos.
Memin
My world is now expanding to Bogota!
Of course, I'm a little scared. Our company and our government do not think I should seek too much fun there. You guys seem to disagree. You must be right...
I'll be staying at some hotel very near the airport -- A logistics nightmare for this sort of thing. But, I am willing to deal with it.
Are taxi's to and from downtown safe enough?
Once there, should I secure a room for fun, or rely on the Zona Rosa establishment?
If these answers are apparent in the last 6 months of posts, I will find them (I've only perused several weeks, so far).
Going to Santiago, Sao Paolo this month and subsequent months, as well as Buenos Aires a month or two later. All with regularity. Can't wait -- I've been deprived for several years. Anyway, please look for my posts there and feel free to engage in a PM conversation anytime.
Jav'
Taxi's are fine. Try the Windsor house hotel or the Hotel De Laville both around 50 dollars a night, very safe, girl friendly. Bogota is a fine city don't beleive everything you hear but do be careful
Was in Bogota for one night on September 13.
Here are some new places that I didn't previously see mentioned on the board.
Sauna Taurus: Cra. 19 No. 84-84 257-9745
They only had four girls when I was there 19-23 5-7 in looks, but it was the first place that we hit so I kept looking.
IWHA Shopin Restaurant Shows: Cra 14 No 98-18 610-6963
This place is a large house the upstairs has been converted into a night club. There is an entire wall of televisions where they show videos. On the Monday night that I was there they had approximately 20 girls. At least two of the girls were real knock outs. The problem is that we ordered a couple of beers and they turned out costing $20,000 pesos a piece. After that we just got the f out of there. It is worth checking out but don't order anything until you confirm the prices. I think that we were quoted $70,000 peso bar fee and whatever deal you make with the girls.
Bar Zhivago, Juan Pablo Karaoke Cra. 18 No. 93A-83 256-8925
This place was outstanding. The atmoshphere is great and the staff is friendly and not pushy. On Monday night there was easily 30-40 girls. Ten of which were absolutely drop dead gorgeous. The house fee is $60,000 and the girls ask between $100-200,000 per hour. There are rooms on premises or you can take the girls back to your hotel. I took out a beatiful nineteen year old from Manizales. She claimed to be a university student and said that a lot of the girls at the club were students that work a few nights a week to pay their bills. She said that there are usually different girls every night.
Also checked out other clubs like Le Mansion, Casanovas, Extisis, and Lido. All of these were dead on the Monday I was there.
Based upon Beavis' recomendation I stayed at the Hotel De LaVille. Thanks Beavis. The hotel was great and totally girl friendly. They have to register but no additional fee and no hassle.
I will return to Bogota.
JavMav: HIRE ME! I like your travel schedule/destinations.
Airport hotel is just fine if you use an escort service for incall or take a taxi. Most clubs do have onpremises ST rooms so don't worry about that.
Use big city common sense, but don't huddle in fear in your room or anything as it is not NEARLY that bad in the areas of BOG you are likely to visit.
Went to Bogota (see Simple Mans report)
All i have to add is the following:
Eduardo Bernal (Tourist Taxi, about 30 yrs old nice guy knows lots of places and charges very reasonable rates).
Cel. #315-852-1806.
After dealing with taxi drivers who don't seem to know where anything is located and getting overcharged, i finally found this guy. He walks into mos places with you and makes sure you are safe before, he leaves. Thus, i highly recommend this taxi guy.
Does any Bogota regulars know of a cheap place to stay near Salitre Magico, El Dorado Ave, or the Embassy or this general area? Hotel, motel, or apartment, trying to keep it at 95k/night! I've check virtually everything on the online yellow pages in Bogota and the web! i'll be in town the 2nd week of Nov. for a week. thanks the rabbit
Little Dick Pride:
I know that I'm about a month late, but dude Surfer is a good guy bro!
Don't take my word for it check out his post in the Cartagena board dated 05/14/04
I hate that racist shit as well, but Surfer aint the one, and hell I'm a black guy!
Little Dick Pride, Surfer is the David_33 of Colombia!
Surfer what is the cheapest city to monger at in Collmbia?
LP: Better late than never (to get support against LDP's misinterpretation of my attempt to help the guy looking for White girls)
The cheapest city would likely be a place no foreigner would dare tread. If you are brave, speak good Spanish and are willing to look at several casas full of mediocre chicas until you stumble across a gem, I'd say Cali (can't believe I am posting that here). But for most guys, Cartagena offers a better total experience and if you bargain well, action should not be much more costly. BOG is definiterly the MOST costly.
CTG is the most "userfriendly" place to pickup semi/pro action in COL. I like Manila House, (200k to girl + 60K to house for 24 hrs). The chick were friendly and cute (7-8 out 10 range). I like light skin myself, and Colombia is great for that, Cali more so than CTG, but many working chicas in CTG are from other cities (Bogota / Cali / Medellin, etc.,) anyway. Since I'm not a "surfer" beach lover, I found CTG boring after 3-4 days. You're not going to find lots of blond/blue-eye chicas in COL, but if you like Latino looking, light skin chicas, then Col is great, friendly & cheap. Non-Pro is even better IMO.
Everyone has there preferences when i comes to girls, some guys like big tits, small tits, light skin vs dark skin, blond vs brunette, it's all good. Mongers I've met from all countries and culture are rarely "racist", most Monger's are quite friendly to one another across racial/national/cultural lines, because we have at least ONE COMMON interest (PUSSY!).
I am looking for some leads or info on short-time motels or love motels out near the airport also, need specifics though, name, address, tele#, prices, etc. the rabbit
Sandrabbit,
You couldn't have asked for the mecca of "love motels" to be situated any closer to the airport then they are.
Ask any taxi driver and he'll take you to a row of motels within five minutes of airport with names like "Coconito" "Paracaidas" and "Campo Amor" among others.
Mamey
Sandrabit,
All the love motels are located at Transversal 93, near airport.
There are about 10 or so establishmets. Most taxi drivers will now where they are. At nigh they are illuminated with bright neon lights.
I have tried "Conejito Suites", the price was 45,000 pesos for a clean room with porno TV and clean shower.
Can someone give updated report on abejita massage parlour as I will be in Bogota next week.
Thanks
Thanks Mamey & Siesta, for this great info!!!! I'm sure it will help others too! "Conejito Suites", that's too cool! Just what the rabbit man needs! The Rabbit
can anybody suggest strip joints other than Lido & La 49 (which only happen LATE) where one can watch sexy dancers. Less concerned about extras as there are PLENTY of options for that in BOG, but I like to see some skin to get me in the mood BEFORE midnight (when Lido & La 49 get hopping). Gracias compadres.
Will report back my findings in this critical area of research.
Surfer, try Aroma and Tango....or Tango and Aroma.... on 14 around 95. Mostly a strip show.
As for places to stay near the Salitre area, try
http://www.bogotaapartments.com/
Much less than $95. Tell him Bill from Portland sent you.
Other than that, just got back from three weeks in Bogota. With both good and bad girls.... and still believe that the bad girls are not that bad! Even met one from Medellin that in convinced I'm her boyfriend!
Juan Pablo's is the best place and the one least likely to rip you off. I tried some of the houses, but the chicks were mostly ugly. Didn't try the escort services, since you never know who they are really gonna send.
Surfer,
strip joints? they don't really excist. There are three that I know of (where extras are not emphasized) in Chapinero. A couple on Caracas between calle 63-64 and one on calle 61/kra13.
These are very dumpy wannabee joints, dark, below average girls and most of all, terrible atmosphere. unfortunately, the only places where you can be guarranteed descent strippers are at the "Fortynine," "Lido," and "Casanovass" type joints. But you're right these places are only for late consumption. I would go to centro Caracas and calle 21.
Mamey
Mamey & Bill: Thanks. I've been to a couple down in the teens or 20s that were as you describe (fairly rough). The 49 show gets great at 1am or so, but that is SO late for me to still go get action afterwards.
Bill, I am not familiar with Juan Pablo's. Have you written about it on this board (in which case I will go back through the old threads)? If not, can you tell me a little about it.
Bogota wrap-up
Just completed the night's activities during my layover here in Bogota. Started out at Le Mansion, which looks like the home of a small 3rd world country dictator - through a high gate guarded by imposing looking rent-a-soldiers in black with a pat down and then into the foyer. Pretty swank with young, absolutely doable lovelies of various ages, complexions, and builds. Only 2 other mongers there when I arrived. I got a bad taste in my mouth from the girls, though - the same cell-phone-glued-to-the-ear, tacky jewelry, and hard-core look as the mercenary pros I've seen in Cuba's high-end discos. Maybe GFE was possible with some of these girls, but my voice of reason was screaming at me to get the hell out of there and go somewhere else.
Surfer, I checked out Whiskeria 49, but it was a little dead when I went. No one really jumped out at me (except the pan handlers outside), so I quickly moved on.
Based on Simple Man's recent review of Zhivago's, I decided to give that a try, and I'm so glad I did. FYI, Juan Pablo's and Zhivago's are one and the same, although the sign outside says Juan Pablo's (look at his post a couple pages back for the address). Lots of pretty girls inside. I chose a 23 year old spinner who treated me like a king for a little over an hour for 150,000 pesos (57 dollars). The house charged me 70,000 for the room, which may be their weekend rate, I don't know. There were maybe 30 girls there, at least 3/4 of whom were doable, with a couple of standouts, including mine. Spoke with the owner, a real nice guy who maintains this lively, bright, and comfortable environment and keeps it stocked with nice chicas. Were they as pretty as Le Mansion? On the whole, no, but, like I said, the service was great, and the girls were young and friendly. I recommend it.
GC
Bogota wrapup.
Checked Charlotte's in Zona Rosa. The place has now new owners, that have renamed it to something to something along the lines of "Cityscape" or "Metroland", can't remember exatly.
The music if more "techno" now and the bar lighting went from warm red to electric blue. The pretty waitresses are no longer there, the bar staff are now men. the entrance is free of charge. Drinks start from 2500. On friday at 22:30 there were only three 40yo working "girls". The lovers of mature women may find the place to be of interest.
I then went next door to "Mister Barbilla". The entrance fee is 10,000.
This is no LDV of CTG. The place is moslty full of colombians althouhg there were some gringos and I would say the women to men ratio was 4/5. Lound music inside, the place is so packed there in no place to stay.
I met up with a girl I knew from LDV and her 5 friends. Talkning to them I have learned that ALL women in "Mister Barbillo" are "prepago", i.e. either kept women or looking for business. The prices are also much higher than LDV. If in GTG I could agree 80,000 for a couple of hours, here the same girl was asking 130,000 and declined my 100,000 offer. Later that night she foud a customer who paid 200,000 for her. Her friends charge even more apprx 300,000 range. These girls live high life, they are not poor. The girl will have a plastic surgery next week, her frieds already have implants, etc. They drive newish full-size cars, - luxury in Colombia.
To wrap up, dissapointing night, had to come back home without pussy.
I saw a 10 at the MAnsion and she was hanging around Juan Pablo's one nite and took her home for a GFE. I am convinced that many of these girls would make good girlfriends, but most have kids, and I would never bring a 10 back to my city!
Custer: What time were you at La 49? NEVER good before 11-midnight or so.
The prices people are quoting here are SO high; perhaps inflation, or looking like a rich gringo or poor Spanish skiils or too anxious or whatever. I am NOT saying I am a "master" or anything, but I am skeptical that better pricing cannot be obtained even at high end joints. That being said, taxi drivers and hotel bellman can find the same quality girls on their off nights (or full time freelancers) without all that overhead and markup. Just my opinion. Back to BOG in 2 weeks so I will check it out though I VERY rarely go to the tourist trap type places.
*Surfer* --
Planning my next trip :) A while back you mentioned Windsor Court. I can't find it anywhere. Did you mean Windsor *House*? (The corporate rate they offered me though is 150k)
Okay, read what I could. I think my contribution/extraction ratio is pretty good overall, so I'll make a blatant request...
I'm arriving early evening on Tuesday or Wednesday, staying at the something Europa by the airport, leaving early Wednesday. Will have three hours total to monger, staging from my airport hotel.
I don't mind taking a taxi to town if necessary, but the most efficient airport-area massage with extras around 9pm would be absolutely perfect. Alternatively, if I need to stay out until midnight, including incidental fun, so be it.
Could anybody help me??
The price of Bogata is an attraction, so I'm not willing to pay exhorbinantly for the convenience of time, but willing to pay a little extra.
Thanks'
Jav'
Based on my report of Charlottes, somebody PM me asking about availability of mature women (30-45yo) in Colombia. I post the reply here for all to read.
In Bogota the place that used to be called "Charlottes", now I think is it called "Cityscape" or "Metropolis" the entrance is only about 25meters away from Mr. Baarbilla discoteque in zona Rosa.
Go after 22:00 is it a regular/normal bar, but all mature single women at the bar are for hire.
Also I see another place being advertised in Classified section of "El Tiempo" under "Senoras". They have 8 mature ladies in 30-45yo range. The quoted price is 120,000 pesos. Tel 482 6356.
They are on Carrera 28.
Thanks to those who PM'd with good information. My trip, thus my report, will be delayed-- bummer!
Jav'
hi all,
in this month's issue of "soho magazin" there is a good article with a very nice description of the services in abejitas' massage parlor. also a complete list of massage parlors in bogota, cali, medellin.
the address is
[url]http://soho2.terra.com.co/soho/articuloview.jsp?id=2439[/url]
or go to [url]www.soho.com.co[/url] and look in "sexo" in the navigation bar in the left.
you can also buy the magazin in any news stand or pharmacie.
this is a really nice magazin, kind of local version of fhm or maxim where there are sexy pictures or local tv stars, and articles about night life, bars, etc etc. i totally recomend it. it is in spanish only.
check also in the top right navigation bar "sohot" there are lots of pictures of colombian models, tv starts, etc. colombian chicks are really hot!
btw abejitas also offers outcalls, price is 150.000 cop for 1 hour and 15 minutes.
colombian chicks are really hot
enjoy
ryck
pd. in case you can not open the website, i copied the addresses of the massage parlors below
centro de estética energy
cra. 74 #49-101 (por el estadio)
tel: 4361131
medellín
"tenemos sauna y un hidromasaje delicioso. te sale por $130.000 la hora".
precio de un trago: $5.000
de 9 am a 9:30 pm.
cierran los domingos.
samsara
av. 33 #65-09
tel: 2657123
medellín
precio de los servicios: desde $35.000 (por "estimulación oral") hasta $130.000 ("por todo, claro"). no tienen zona húmeda ni servicios especiales.
precio de un trago: $3.000.
de 10 am a 10 pm.
domingos hasta las 3 pm.
abado
av. 15 #116-59 apto. 203
tel: 6376627
bogotá
por $20.000 se lleva un masaje manual que "va de suave a fuerte y termina en pluma". por $30.000, cuatro tipos de masajes con desnudo (la masajista usa los senos y las nalgas). cinco masajistas para escoger.
jornada continua de lunes a sábado,
de 10 am a 8 pm.
domingos de 10:30 am a 6:30 pm.
manzana
tr.54 #27-02
barrio san isidro
cartagena
la fachada de esta casa esconde todo un mundo de relajación. masajes manuales a $40.000. por $20.000 más, usted accederá a una relación completa y muy íntima y por $140.000, a un trío.
botella de ron: $80.000. trago: $8.000.
supermasajes
cra.11 #79-35. piso 2
tel: 2490953-2174479
bogotá
"el supermasaje que damos vale $20.000, la niña está desnuda mientras lo hace y termina en una rica estimulación manual".
cerveza: $5.000
todos los días de 10 am a 9 pm
posibilidad de domicilios.
one relax center
cll 129 bis #35-06
tel: 2163568
bogotá
disidencia de abejitas. quince mujeres.
media hora: $25.000. la hora: $30.000. los adicionales y la relación completa
marcan $130.000.
no está bien visto el trago, pero un whisky no se le niega a nadie.
de lunes a lunes. abren a las 10 am y a las 8 pm está saliendo el último cliente.
servicio a domicilio.
golden girls
avenida suba #105-40
tel: 2538014
bogotá
una mujer utiliza aceite o talco para masajearlo durante una hora por solo $20.000 hasta llegar a la estimulación manual. el precio de los demás servicios los dictamina la masajista, según su cara y facha.
un vaso de agua, jugo o gaseosa.
nada más.
de domingo a domingo, el cierre es
a las 8:30 pm.
servicio a domicilio.
relax
cra. 14 #83-62
tel: 2183515
bogotá
un voz entre perezosa y dulzona lo saca de dudas: "el masaje sensorial manual te cuesta $20.000. también puedes pasar a nuestra sala de video. lo demás lo arreglas con la niña".
trago de cortesía.
lunes a sábado de 10 am a 8 pm.
domingos de 11 am a 6 pm.
servicio a domicilio.
supermasajes
cra.11 #79-35. piso 2
tel: 2490953-2174479
bogotá
"el supermasaje que damos vale $20.000, la niña está desnuda mientras lo hace y termina en una rica estimulación manual".
cerveza: $5.000
todos los días de 10 am a 9 pm
posibilidad de domicilios.
spartacus
cra. 23a #8a-17 barrio alameda
tel: 5570764
cali
el masaje de roce, amasado y fricción vale $24.000. servicio de sala de parejas para los que quieran venir acompañados. las niñas acceden a la estimulación manual solo por solicitud expresa del cliente.
media de ron: $30.000
martes: paga un masaje y recibe dos. miércoles: nudismo. jueves: sin pareja. viernes: tríos. sábados: swingers.
fantasías internacionales
cl. 13 #22a-44 tel: 5142159
cra. 23 #9e-91 tel: 5574672
cali
la especialidad, masaje terapéutico relajante con estimulación manual erótica por hora: $45.000. media hora: $35.000. hora de jacuzzi: $60.000. incluye habitación con baño, televisor con videos pornográficos. es atendido por mujeres entre los 18 y los 25 años.
se puede beber: media de aguardiente, $30.000, media de ron, $35.000, botella de whisky, $160.000.
24 horas.
masajes rocío
cl. benjamín herrera #24-34
barrio bruselas
cartagena
multitud de niñas realizan masajes eróticos a los que usted puede acceder si saca de su billetera entre $30.000 y $40.000. depende de su capacidad de charla. si se emociona, la relación se arregla por $60.000 y si está desbocado y quiere dos niñas debe pagar $120.000.
abadía
cra. 49b #72-161
tel: 3560052 cel: (315) 7161495
barranquilla
el servicio completo con masaje vale $80 mil. si puja un poco queda en $60 mil. los servicios son para damas o parejas y se aplican "técnicas orientales". hacen eventos y despedidas de solteros.
trago: pida el que quiera que se lo traen (a precio de la licorera de la esquina).
24 horas.
domicilios: existen, pero debe pagarle el taxi a la masajista.
La Mansion is a big white house, with a black gate in front, where you should honk your horn, and an armed guard will open the door. Is located on Calle 116, con autopista norte.
Once the regular padding for weapons, you enter a huge lobby, with surrounding rooms and a set of titanic type stairs that lead to the second floor.
In the rooms around the lobby, you find a pool table, and multiple sofas, chairs, and poker style tables, where you can arrange to be seated by one of the multiple waiters.
La Mansion is known to be one of the best ***** houses in Bogotá. There are suppose to be plenty more private houses like this one in the city, but I haven’t been in one for the last ten years.
Once you arrive to La Mansion, you will be asked to be seated, and to have a drink. I actually don’t remember the prices, but I ordered half a bottle of chivas regal, that went around Col$ 175.000.oo or US$ 70.oo. Is usually cheaper by the bottle, and you can ask the girl to drink whatever you are drinking.
Once you are comfortable seated, you start looking for whatever fancies you. The night I was there I hardly saw an ugly girl, or a fat one, most of them were extremely beautiful, blonds and brunettes, lots of them with breast implants.
I arrived around 10:00 pm, but I noticed that it really gets going, around 11:30, although it closes around 2:30 in the morning.
My girl for the night was called Sara, although, I knew it was her professional name. Gorgeous white girl, with jet black hair, excellent disposition, and intelligent conversation. I don’t know how many of them speak English, but I saw lots of foreigners, both American and European.
I hardly realized that we talked for a couple of hours, until it was around 12:00 and the bottle was almost finished, so I started negotiating. She asked for Col$400.000.oo, I said that I only had dollars, and that even though she was worth all that money, I though US$ 100.oo was enough. She accepted, and we went upstairs to one of the rooms, the waiter offered three types of rooms, but we went to the cheapest one. I settled my account with the waiter, giving him a good tip, and I wasn’t disturbed in the two hours we spend inside the room. After that, we had an extra drink in the lobby, until they were about to close, and I left.
Something important I noticed, is that none of these girls stay at this house after closing, so all of them must go home or find another place to party, and that should lower the price substantially.
In conclusion, if you have a night off in Bogotá, I really recommend this place, a little bit on the expensive side, but safe, nice and full of beautiful woman.
Does anyone have any information on a Casa in Bogota, that has four floors, and approximately fifty chicas from all aver Latin America. I understand from a friend of mine in Medellin, that it is an "Exquitite Establishment." The price quoted was 150,000 CP per hour. But I cannot remember the Name or location.
Wilbur
Good report.
What day of the week were you there?
The one day I was there was a Monday and there was only one more customer: a white haired, local businessman in a suit and tie.
So one hundred dollars plus 70 dollars for the bottle. THat's 170.
Did you have to pay extra for the upstairs room?
I thought that the girls were pretty, but not prettier than at the clubs. At La Mansion you pay more for the setting, not for the quality of the girls.
Cheerio,
Ferolga
Ferolga 777
I was there on a Thursday, and there was a good amount of clients.
I probably ended un paying around $250.oo for the whole thing, including tips.
I agree with you about La Mansion, you can find girls as pretty at the clubs, but I don’t enjoy the club setting very much, also, I like feeling secure, and the setting makes you feel secure.
By the way, security in Bogota, is something worth paying for.
One crazy thing about The Mansion is that the guards treat you like s___ when you come in and then make sure you show your receipt on the way out, but then think they have done you some kind of favor and hit you up for a propina. A propina for WHAT? For hassling you!!
I found much better and more fun places to go there than the Mansion. I even took a Mansion girl home. The best one there, for the whole nite, for $60. but met her in another place where I didn't have to deal with those wolves that hound you in there. $60, all nite, what a deal !! And she was gr-reat.
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I'm sorry if this appears twice but I don't see it on here yet.
Has anybody ever seen this chica? She claims she's a total non-pro, only ever been with 2 guys etc, but I think she's trying to make a banana out of me!
I went to a place tuesday night called Palacetes, about 10 mins from Plaza Salitre, (towards downtown ) had about 12 or so chicas of varying types, i picked a tall black girl ,"Vanessa" from way down south. She was totally enamored with the Rabbit, toda la noche was 160,000. Picked her up at 11pm, and she left about 7am. High light of the night was when during the 2nd BBBJ she swallowed the leche with out a flinch or batting an eye! Her exit fee for the house was 100,000. Don't buy nothing in this place but the girl! The manager will ask the girls to 1 by 1 parade by and introduce theirself, then you can decide which of them you want to talk with. I based my decision on attitude, looks, body and did they seem to enjoy being there. There were a few that appeared to just not want to be there, they were automatically disqualified by the Rabbit, reguardless of looks!
Kind of aggressive there Bill12, but we appreciate your opinion anyways. Charlies is probably the best place for a new comer or loner to stay at. It is not a place to find girls, but rather an excellent atmosphere where English is spoken, and a very friendly supportive atmosphere. I've been staying at Charlies for 15 years now, sometimes a month at a time. The phone is 011-57-1-214-6069. While I been to most major cities, and some not so major in Colombia, I still like Bogota and Charlies the best.
[url]www.freetranslation.com[/url] does a fair job of translating. I'm sure there are other choices, but I've gotten very good at copying, pasting and translating. For example, here are the first few entries of Ryck's post (note that some of the resulting translation is somewhat entertaining to read):
Center of esthetics Energy Cra. 74 #49-101 (by the Stadium) Tel: 4361131 Medellín "we Have sauna and a delicious hydrotherapy. Leaves you for $130.000
the hour". Price of a drink: $5.000 Of 9 am to 9:30 pm. They close Sundays.
Samsara Av. 33 #65-09 Tel: 2657123 Medellín Price of the services: since $35.000 (by "oral stimulation") to $130.000 (" for all, clear"). They do not have humid zone neither special services. Price of a drink: $3.000. Of 10 am to 10 pm. Sundays to the 3 pm.
Abado Av. 15 #116-59 Apt. 203 Tel: 6376627 Bogota By $20.000 is carried a manual massage that "goes of smooth to strong and finishes in feather". By $30.000, four types of massages with naked (the masseuse uses the breasts and the buttocks). Five masseuses to choose. Continuous day from Monday to Saturday, of 10 am to 8 pm. Sundays of 10:30 am to 6:30 pm.
Apple Tr. 54 #27-02 Neighborhood San Isidro Cartagena The facade of this house hides all a world of relaxation. Manual massages to $40.000. By $20.000 more, you will agree to a very intimate and complete relation and by $140.000, to a trio. Bottle of ron: $80.000. I swallow: $8.000.
Mav'
Just back from BOG. Lido was slow. Juan Pablos and Casa Nova were great, with a couple of major babes in each. For nooners I checked out the dozen or so services with web pages lised in the back of the local newspaper. Most were bait and switch, 2 were honest; [url]www.chuscas.com[/url] who I used a few months back, and also [url]www.latinwomen.es.mn[/url] which kinda shows faces making it difficult to deceive much. Returning in Feb.
Ron
Hi guys,
I am headed to Bogota next month and I am looking for a decent hotel to stay in the northern part of the city...I used to stay at Hotel charleston which is on carrera 85-13 (right around the corner from Casanovas) but it has gotten quite expensive. I am looking for a place in the $50-$75 USD range. Got any recommendations? I am hoping for a place close to Juan Pablos, Lido, casanova areas.
Thanks,
Lusty
Ron,
I saw your post on this service. I have thought about using them in the past but was afraid of bait and switch. Can you recommend any specific ladies? Also, what was provided? Please be specific (bbbj, bbbjtc, cim, etc)
I tend to prefer them with a "nasty" streak meaning that they do pretty much everything you see in pornos. Got any recommendations and contact info on pretty ladies that offer such services in Bogota?
Thanks,
Lusty
PS-I will be there next month and will post a report.
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Tampa Lust,
You may try Hotel La Boheme. calle 82 No. 12-35. Its in Zona Rosa. Nice hotel. around $50.
Hamilton Court is MUCH better IMHO, but often fully booked in advance. Cost is right aboity 100K (but with Dollar dropping like a rock even that will be $50 soon).
SOMETIMES you can get good deals at tourist info center at El Dorado, but weekends (starting on Thursday night) in ZonaRosa are tough (better to book in advance). You can get Tequendama most weekends for pretty cheap (business hotel in Centro Internacional) but quite far from Zona Norte action.
What's up fellas!
I'm a first time visitor to Bogota getting there in three weeks. I would REALLY appreciate going out with someone from here. I have to admit, I am a bit nervous with everyone cautioning about this and that, I can either sit home and fret or go out and live life to the fullest. I've been Rio, Sao Paulo, DR, PR, Thailand, etc. so I am hoping that Bogota will be comparable in terms of safety and overall atmosphere. My general feeling tells me it is more akin to a NYC/LA atmosphwere (both of which I have been to many times before and even lived). Another couple of interesting sites I've stumbled across are as follows (for all the other newbies like myself!):
[url]http://poorbuthappy.com/[/url]
[url]http://www.populardelujo.com/index.htm[/url]
IMHO Bogota is safer than Rio or Sampa (though the rough neighborhoods are less distinct than the favelas in Brasil). IMHO the area around HELP is more dangerous than BOG.
Team,
I will be in Bogota in March for two weeks on business. Can you recomend a nice hotel for under 100 USD. I was considering the Howard Johnsons. It looks clean and safe. Are all hotels girl fiendly?
I would also like some guidance in where to go. I have been to every major cat house in Latin America and know Rio like the back of my hand. I know Morrisons in Caracas, Cadillac in Mexico City, Cafe Foto in Sao Paulo, Centaurus/Barbarella in Rio, Blacks in Buenos Aires but have never been to Columboa. I speak Spanish fluently, I am actually from Mexico.
Will anyone be in Bogota the first two weeks in March? PM me with some info. I will be in SP and Rio from the 17th to the 31st of January of this month, if anyone would like me to show them around I would love to.
Regards,
RR
Just found the name & phone number of the guy who took me to PALACETES,(chica casa) call Hector @ 716-3173 or 315-764-8311, he's kind of a man-for-hire, where ever you need to go or if there's something you are looking for, he can get it or find it for you. Make sure you settle on a price for his service before hand! If he asks where you got the number, tell him that the gringo he helped in November in Villa Luz gave it to you. Can't say he's the cheapest, but he'll deliver, he's just trying to make a living like the rest of us. The Rabbit
from the places you mention, I surmise you prefer high end places. Accordingly, La Mansion, Lido, Casanova's etc may be great for you, though I still would check out La 49 (which I've written about in some detail if you scroll down the thread aways).
Almost all hotels in BOG are guest friendly (though SOME may add an extra charge). I'd recommend Hamilton Court then Saint Simon. I would DEFINITELY insist on getting a hotel in the Zona Norte/Rosa.
You say you are going for two weeks so I assume business requires you to stay in BOG. I would STRONGLY urge you to get out of BOG on the weekends (or whenever you can), especially because your Spanish is fluent you should do well in regional capitals.
Try the Dann Carlton. Nicer hotel than the HJ in my opinion, and close to the Zona Rosa and Parque 93. Call them and ask for their corporate rate.
If you prefer a chain with US associations (all be it just in the name), try the Embassy Suites on K7 (at about Cl 60 ~ 70 IIRC).
Gidday Rabbit,
This Hector guy, can he speak english ?
Regards,
Aussie Greg.
[QUOTE=SandRabbit]Just found the name & phone number of the guy who took me to PALACETES,(chica casa) call Hector @ 716-3173 or 315-764-8311, he's kind of a man-for-hire, where ever you need to go or if there's something you are looking for, he can get it or find it for you. Make sure you settle on a price for his service before hand! If he asks where you got the number, tell him that the gringo he helped in November in Villa Luz gave it to you. Can't say he's the cheapest, but he'll deliver, he's just trying to make a living like the rest of us. The Rabbit[/QUOTE]
Aussie Greg, my spanish is decent, so i don't know how much english he speaks....i'd guess very limited though??? If you speak a little espanol, maybe you can find some middle ground? the rabbit
Thanks for the info, will see how I go, I'll keep you posted, again thanks.
Aussie Greg
[QUOTE=SandRabbit]Aussie Greg, my spanish is decent, so i don't know how much english he speaks....i'd guess very limited though??? If you speak a little espanol, maybe you can find some middle ground? the rabbit[/QUOTE]
I took up residence in Zona Norte at the Fontana hotel (US$90/night) - nice place and teeming with amazingly beautiful, well-off women all over the hotel. The hotel set me up with a driver and car for US$6/hr. I didn't like the driver as he was old and not very friendly--so as I would go from place to place with different cab drivers, I found one I liked who knew about the mongering scene well and stuck with him. My spanish is at best intermediate, but I'm latino so I fit in moreso than others. Although the quality of the women at spots like La Mansion, Lido, Casanova's etc. was very good, they are all major rip-off joints IMO. They charge upwards of 20k pesos for one drink (uno trago!). Not my type of place.
Anyway, my driver told told me the best place to go is an area named Conrrado-so I took him up on it (vamos). Depending on where you are coming from, negotiate with the driver to get you there--from the Norte area expect to pay between 10,000-15,000 pesos depending on your bargaining skills (off the meter). The ride is about 20-30 minutes depending on traffic. The best thing to do is have the cab driver drive you around the 5 or 6 blocks so you can get a general feel of the area. It is essentially a red light district with girls all over the place (street, bars, clubs).
Conrrado obviously isn't the greatest of areas, but for the most part I didn't feel like there was any impending doom. The best place here is La Piscina. A huge place with an olympic sized pool smack in the middle of it. There were around 80-100 girls here and an equal number of guys. The ladies were charging anywhere from 30k-80k pesos for short-time. You can definitely negotiate here and you will find some real stunners. My standards are pretty high having spent a significant amount of time in Brazil--but I would say there were at least four 10's here. Boob jobs were pretty common amongst the chicas. To sit around the pool you have to buy a bottle (or half a bottle). Since I was alone I didn't bother and was content standing around with my 3k pesos cerveza (~US$1.25). No cover charge.
My advice would be to check out the four/five blocks around this area as you will find quite a few gems. I'll warn you guys now--if you come out of La Piscina and make a right, at the end of the block you'll find a few transsexuals. They aren't as aggressive as some of the ones in Brazil are--so just take this as a light-hearted warning in case you're stoned or drunk. They are pretty obvious to spot though--not super-passable like the ones in Brazil who can pretty much fool damn near anyone. Speaking of stoned, if you are into perico, you can acquire this from any of the vendors selling gum/cigs for 'un pase'. 4-5k pesos will get you a baggie (~1 gram) which should be enough to wild out for the night.
My favorite place was also the most racous. Its around the block (or two blocks away) and called La Casona in the area of Conrrado. The girls here are not as hot as La Piscina, but you will have fun here. To put this in context, patrons, including the ladies were doing lines in the open on the tables--this might be way to crazy for most here, but I had a BLAST! I met this one guy who calls himself John and can speak broken spanish. He hooked me up with one of his girls, a sexy, petite 19 year old named Xiomara for $55 all night long. Feel free to give him a call at either 3103058652, or 3103058663--just tell him that he hooked up one of your friends with that girl Xiomara. She was pretty cool--we had one long 2 hour session after we got back to my place around 1am, she left at 7am--I was too tired for morning action.
Other action--there are three chica houses within several feet of each other at the corner of Calle 67-18 (I think this is in the Zona Norte area, but it might be right on the border).
Hope this helps some of you.
Never heard of Conrrado but will DEFINITELY check it out next time I visit La Ciudad de Los Rollos. I assume it is in the Zona Sur. Thanks for a great report.
Posted this elsewhere, figured I'd share it here as well
I just got back from Bogota....again. The working chicas will rival any city in the country, including trumping CTG, esp. on sheer volume alone. Can't speak for MDE or CLO, as I've never been to either city...yet.
It being the capital of the country, there are way more spots to hit than the average Colombian city. Stumbling around Zona Rosa alone at night, I hit quite a few spots that I didn't even know existed. Just had the casa-commisioned touts easily found on Calle 82, point you in the right direction for 10.000-20.000COP max. for the tour. Never had an issue with them being dangerous or anything.
Stumbled out of one place in Zona Rosa at 6:00 in the morning that I'm assuming is the exact one another monger mentioned to me, around the corner from Lancaster on Cra. 15. Talent-level, was 4-7.5, cost was like 100.000-200.000COP for TLN, depending on your negotiation. I only went to check it out for future notice. I was two sheets to the wind, loaded up on Ron Caldas rum.
Not sure where all the fear about it not being safe on the streets of Bogota is coming from. In my experiences (4x) in Bogota, haven't experienced anything negative, except a taxi driver who wanted to over-charge me. This includes being in the red-light district around La Piscina at night, like 2-3 in the morning solo. Maybe I'm tempting fate, but never felt in harm's way. Even spotted a chica I met in LDV last Nov. working in La Paisa Bar (across from Atunes), now getting boned at 27.000COP for 30 mins. TLN was negotiable, but she was trying to keep it high (150.000-200.000COP).
I can also speak for La Casona. There are now two locations, one further north. I went to the one on the same block as Atunes & La Paisa, along with about 5 other spots. It's a hole-in-the-wall!!!! Many of the other chicas from this area come through La Casona when their other working spots close, before heading elsewhere (Fortaleza). They can be had for cheap (80.000-100.000COP for TLN). Many of these chicas have no idea where Zona Rosa or El Norte is. Can be a wild place to hang (open coke-snorting, interactive stripshow etc.), but the people are generally pretty cool, into their own thing for the nite. Every now and then, a decent-looking chica (maybe a 7) passes thru, but the average chica there would be a 5, on a scale of 10. On-site sessions cost 27.000 COP for 30 mins.
This past trip, with a local monger, we went to Fortaleza, the after hours spot frequented primarily by the locals and the chicas who work in those spots around Piscina. I had been there before solo, never had a problem. You can probably get those same chicas from La Piscina or the spots around them for less than 100.000COP for TLN. I forget the drink prices, but there is no salida for the chica and there's no entrance fee.
However, if you're a nervous person, or speak no Spanish, I wouldn't advise you going to Fortaleza. If those two warnings don't apply, just mind your business, ignore the coke being openly snorted around you, the dudes falling out from being too drunk, and concentrate on the chicas and your drinks, you'll have no problems.
- When you when you get mixed up in somebody's business, you'll find what you were searching for. Trouble.
- If you don't go looking for trouble, going to areas you are not familiar with, esp. without a local, you will be fine.
- If you decide to save a few bucks on the hotel cost, and stay in a shitty area, guess what, you're asking for it. We met a dude from Australia who'd just bailed out a German dude who had gotten robbed on the street of everything he owned. Not sure how it happened, but it did happen in a rough area where there are cheap hostels and hotels. The Aussie dude was really cool, but spoke no Spanish. He seemed okay when we left him in Fortaleza, but it's definitely not advisable if you speak no Spanish and have a curious mind.
- Ask your taxi upfront if he knows where your destination is, and how much he'll charge you. Most taxis use the meter at night in Zona Rosa. From Fortaleza or La Piscina at night, give them 12.000COP and they'll be happy, if the meters off. With a meter, it'll cost about 8.000COP during the day, 9.000COP during the night.
- Final piece of advice, generally use the taxis in front of the clubs, as the security dudes generally will be looking out for you, if something shady is going down. They want you to return to their establishment. Grabbing a taxi off the street in a rough neighborhood at night, you are asking for it.
Just my two cents on Bogota. YMMV. Hope it helps.
Gidday guys,
Been en Bogota with Bob the last semana, been here a few times over the years and never liked the place before and it is still the same.
The first night visited The Mansion y Lido, never seen one good looking girl in the place, all seem like they are worn out *****s that have done their tour of duty overseas and come home to retire !!!!, 20,000 p for beers ( what a rip off )
Visited La Pisina, it seems the most happening place en BOG, all the good looking chickies here are Paisas´s ( from MDE, MANS, PER )
Around the corner is The Castle, again all the good lookers are from MDE region.
As for the security, it seemed the taxi drivers are mas worried than Bob and I, Pisina and Castle are down town and their are some weired things around but ( maybe Bob and I are big and ugly !! ) we didnt have any problems.
Thats all for now, regards.
Aussie Greg.
if you speak some Spanish I find the vast majority of taxistas easy to befriend and grab them anytime, anywhere. NEVER felt sketchy at all. I'd feel a HELL of a lot safer in 99% of the taxis than on the street in many areas of BOG at night so if in question I'd hop in the cab in a heartbeat.
Greg: Go try La 49.
O.K, will try next time in BOG at 49, hope it is not soon !!
Como estas !!!, wheres your next dest !!, regards.
Aussie.
But I like La 49 MUCH better than the other places I've been to in BOG.
I know this is sacrilege, but I have opted to go to Argentina on Tuesday (instead of making my 8th trip to Colombia). 8th trip to Colombia must wait. Until Apri. l
Surfer,
He runs The Mansion with Jackson, Ill send you the address tomorrow.
You probley have some where to stay but they have a Pool Party on a Sunday and its great, anybody can go, barbie ect, have a few beers with him ( no dont, hell start saying untruths about me !! )
Dave knows the girls I was with for 5 weeks in Dec, Jan. Ill tey to send you their pic´s, telephones tomorrow to, their was only 3 of them but they were the best *****s you would want, like GFE y mas !!
Ask Dave, Greg said its O.K. to see the video he made with me and Jackson with 2 *****s one night !!
Regards,
Aussie Greg
[QUOTE=Surfer]But I like La 49 MUCH better than the other places I've been to in BOG.
I know this is sacrilege, but I have opted to go to Argentina on Tuesday (instead of making my 8th trip to Colombia). 8th trip to Colombia must wait. Until Apri. l[/QUOTE]
Hey Aussie,
I saw the dynamic duo the night after you had them. Both in Excedra. Only one walking with a limp. Better luck with the other next time...
I'm going to Bogota tomorrow for a VERY quick night. Staying by the airport, but could be persuaded to go downtown. La 49 the place to go, huh? Is it worth it, or should I just rest up for Sao Paulo next week?
See Ya' Mate (up here, pretty soon, I think),
Mav'
Gentlemen!
During the end of March i'll be heading down to Bogota and do some mongering. Ill most likely stay in my hotel and use escort services, is there any sort of precaution i have to take? Is the airport safe?I'll arrive in the evening and i am bit worried whether i'll be safe since i'm a tall young European, well better leave my Rolex at home, thanks in advance, what a great forum this is, greetz,
Ewald
Well it has come my time to share Bogota's best find. This girl was discovered by TobyGru and Member #1226 a year ago (see their posts) and they were kind enougth to share her number with me. For a year I kept this girl for myself, but now I have moved on.
Jimela is a rare find. Treat her nicely and in bed she will give you her real multiple orgasms, woderful eye-contact BJ, and no holes barried fun.
If you are staying in a posh hotel, you are probably fed up with the looks you get at recepion when you bring a girl in tigh low-cut jeans and pink blouse, i.e. the type that one picks up in night-clubs, and looks and behaves like a pro. Jimela is always smartly dressed in a sharp business suit (alike in the photo attached), (she has many, you will never see her dressed in the same twice). You will not be embarrased with her in a smart restaurant our hotel.
If you want her cellular number, PM me. She charges $200,000 for the evening or $300,000 overnight.
Note, she holds a full time day job, thus she only available at week-ends and at nights. You also need to book in advance.
she will travel on weekends if you pay her way (provided she likes you). I have a few pictures but not sure if I should post them. Very attractive, late 20s.
Ewald,
Surely some places in Colombia are unsafe, but certeanly Bogota is not the case. If you hire a scort service, probably you don even need it. Anyway is better you doesn´t use too much expensive gadgets, because anytime you can drop it anywhere.
Scort services are not the best way t hire a girl, mainly because they will charge you in advance (by credit card) for someone who surely are not the girl of your dreams. Nevertheless, direct hiring (which is better) at discos requires some spanish capabilities and a good negociation. That is the main problem for foreigners... they usually paid more than the local people. Remember that any colombian girl always is happy for having sex with gringos (familiar term for designing foreigners).
I am sure that you will need some guidance for enjoying those nice Nigth Clubs located in Zona Rosa at Bogota. Let me tell you that you just arrived to the place of your dreams if you want to find a GFE or even more pleasant girl experiences...
Let me know what exactly is your plain and I will be pleased to giding you toward a new level of fun, here in this beautiful place.
I am a photographer living here for a long while, so I have a lot of info about where to find girls for partying in Bogota.
So just call me to my cell phone: [blue][Telephone Number deleted by Admin][/blue], and we will discuss my fees for a very professional tourist guide.
Sincerely,
Alex Klein
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[QUOTE=Ewald]Gentlemen!
During the end of March i'll be heading down to Bogota and do some mongering. Ill most likely stay in my hotel and use escort services, is there any sort of precaution i have to take? Is the airport safe?I'll arrive in the evening and i am bit worried whether i'll be safe since i'm a tall young European, well better leave my Rolex at home, thanks in advance, what a great forum this is, greetz,
Ewald[/QUOTE]
I was looking at the above website (doing my due diligence for upcoming trip) and noticed a couple of things.
1. There are several girls that are charging way over the average for Bogota. One even wants 400K per hour! What is going on here? Does she have some special talent that they don't tell us?
2. The last three or four girls look familar. I seem to have seen them on Argentina web sites. Does this mean that they are Argentina girls that are in Bogota or is this site a total fake?
Thanks for your clarification.
This post looks like some kook spamming the board trying to fleece visitors. He wants to be hired as a guide yet thinks there is no danger in BOG? Even in the Zona Rosa people get mugged regularly. ALWAYS keep your wits about you. I feel Bogota is more dangerous than other cities and is CERTAINLY muchj more dangerous than Cartagena. That is provable fact.
It is also obvious that English is not Alex's first language, not that there is anything wrong with that. Also, this is not a member of the board but, rather, aguy who appears to have just "joined" to advertise.
I wonder why Jackson didn't delete the post entirely.
Yep ... i second the SUFER observation
I couldn't agree more agree more with SURFER and RICKER'S comments.
Hi there,
Check this website: [url]www.clasifica.com[/url] then go to "personales", choose "mujer busca ******", then choose bogota and in city select "santa fe de Bogota".
There are a few girls advertising their services in this website.
I contacted Daniela, she is really good!. She is originally from medellin and thus has a lovely accent, and a great attitude. Her body is nice with long legs, and great, a really great ass, plus small waist and small breasts. Too small breasts for my taste, but hey! you can not have everything! can you? ;)
She only charges 60.000 + taxi money which can be 15.000 more. The times that i met her she performed so well that she received a tip. Sorry guys for hurting the bussiness but she was really good.
Her body looks just unbelievable in those low cut jeans that she uses.
I'd like to say some words on security in Bogota...
!Watch Out! Bogota is unsafe as hell. Check statistics of car robbery and arm assault and you will get scared. Just a piece of advice, if someone has a gun and wants your wallet or you car, just give it to him... car is insured, and whatever is in your wallet does not worth your life or a bullet in your body.
Do not wear expensive gadgets, do not walk too much in unprotected areas specially the areas where rich people live.
On the other hand in the widely visited areas like Park 93, Zona Rosa, and even in the area surrounding "la piscina" you will be totally safe. There is plenty of private guards there because they want you to come and spend money and unsafety will definitely keep you away. I have been in piscina many times, drunk like a fish and nothing ever happened to me.
Enjoy!
Ryck
Take care mates,
Osca
Photographers i know do seem to have the model hookups but DAMN i'd be wary of any local guide who thinks Bogota is safe. I felt constantly watched when i was there.
Good point Ryck, dont think that you are safe just because you are in a rich area. I know plenty of locals who have been mugged down there.
[QUOTE=Rob Hay]Photographers I know do seem to have the model hookups but DAMN I'd be wary of any local guide who thinks Bogota is safe. I felt constantly watched when i was there.
Good point Ryck, dont think that you are safe just because you are in a rich area. I know plenty of locals who have been mugged down there.[/QUOTE]I remember when I met that Canadian girl walking around the Universidad Nacional here in Bogota. She is white head, blue eyes and certeanly taller than the average girls here. Not surprisingly, she complaint all the time about being watched everywhere she was.
Let me say that every "gringo" (familiar for American) is observed by locals mainly because they found caucasic people attractive to them.
By other side, many of the crimes against property takes place in rich areas. Isn´t obvious? But here, according to statistics, is safer than Mexico city or even Buenos Aires. In those places kidnapping and assalts are everywhere.
I found funny that many of members in the forum visit places such as "la piscina", which is located at the unsafest and most dongerous place in Bogota. That place is known as the oficial "red district" which called Santa Fe district. This is the only legal area in the city open for prostitution and for sex-related nigth clubs. But also the majority of crimes (mainly personal injuries and assalts) occur in that district. Nevertheless, as far as I know, nobody in the forum had a bad experience there.
The rest of the touristic places are safer. But sex-locals are formally ilegal in areas such as Zona Rosa. That´s the reason why many places outside "Santa Fe" are hidden.
Alx
I would like to see the SOURCE of Alex's "statistics" showing Bogota has less crime than BA. Mexico DF has a horrible reputation for crime, and perhaps it is worse than Bogota but I have never had much interest in DF really so am less knowledgeable.
As I mentioned I spent the first week of March in BA and NOT only in Recoleta or Baqrrio Norte rich areas. We cruised to Dolly in Flores, a large red light area with ZERO gringos but TONS of drunken Argentines. We walked the microcentro at all hours.
Now this thing about crime in rich areas, while true, does NOT mean it is not MUCH worse in poor areas. Who here has EVER been to the South part of the city (beyond La Candelaria)? Hell centro and the Centro Internacional is WAY sketchy after the crowds leave when business hours end, and these are NOT poor areas like exist further South.
This is NOT to say one cannot enjoy BOG in REASONABLE safety by using good judgment, but BEWARE false claims made by touts out to make a buck. Use big city common sense, RESEARCH THOROUGHLY (ask LOTS of questions of taxi drivers, hotel staff etc) and go with a Spanish speaker you trust.
I am NOT Bogota bashing as I do like the city, but to suggest it is safer than BA strains Alex's already minimal credibility to the breaking point.
Not to say BOG is safe because it's definitely up there in crime. But I did stay there for a week in the southwest, right off of 1 de mayo near plaza de las americas. Never had a problem there whatsoever.
BTW I'm trying to email Jackson but it doesnt seem to work. I want him to delete post# 228 by me in this thread. The girl is almost certainly a non-pro and it's probably therefore really inappropriate that her pic is up there.
As far as crime statistics go, Bogota, Rio, Medellin, Caracas, and Sao Paulo are all neck and neck for violent crime, at a level slightly above that of the most dangerous places in Canada or the US. Cali has twice the murder rate of these places. And some of the border regions in these countries are really like the wild west, with hundreds of murders per 100k residents per year.
I've been to Bogota 3x in the past 7 months, and i'd say its as safe as NYC, LA or CHI-town....but of course anything can happen anywhere.
Bogota is as safe or unsafe as you make it. Just act with the same due diligence you would in any big city. I've spent a week there on three separate occasions and never had a whiff of trouble.
I would not include BOG or MDE in with Rio, Caracas and Sao. In fact, having spent a bit of time in MDE recently, I would call MDE relatively safe. Of course that was not true only a few years ago and things can change rapidly.
Gentlemen!
Is there anyone who could help on finding relatively cheap accommodation in Bogota. I'll be there atleast six months, starting end of the week.
I'd be happy with furnished apartment, 1-2 bedrooms.
Thanks.
S
I am traveling to Cartagenia through Bogota, and will have to spend the night both ways. Can anyone reccomend a decent reasonable hotel in say Zona Rosa where I might be near some action, and reccomend the best places in the area to check out some action. I speak some Spanish.
Just got back from Bogota and thought I'd post. Used a couple of services/listing out of El Tiempo and don't recommend any of them. Decided I'd try E-extasis and see what they'd send me. Requested Sara the first night and was pleasantly surpirsed. The women enjoys her work. I'd give her a 7 on looks, 9 on quality.
Requested Roxanna the second night. 9 on looks and a 2 on quality. This girl justs wants the money and had so many rules I couldn't keep track. No Daty, no BJ, no sucking her tits. Not sure why she was even in the business.
Beware and ask the service for what you want.
I'd stay at Suites Real 85, there's also Suites Real 97 about $40 for a 1Bdr style apt w/ kitchen, very close to ZR.
arrived on a saturday afternoon and took an apartment at real suites 85. i would recommend this place, the rate of cop 104,500 (tax included) is reasonable, cash or c/c. the staff is friendly and girls are announced to your room and let in without formalities. if you want to be extra safe, you can ask the security to identify them. ride from the airport is cop 18,000, but just 11,000 the other way. there are plenty of atm, cafes, internet and every kind of small business shops. a 24/7 supermarket is on the big plaza. and the zona rosa is just three or four blocks away.
now for the girls. i had a couple of 'massage' addresses from a previous post or yellow paes. i take a taxi to cr. 16 -62 or something, and when i arrive the building was like the phantoms house. hard to believe someone had lived there in the past 10 years. oh well, another ride to cr 11-79, mid block by the stairs. i walk in and a boy introduces me three young girls straight in the aisle. the first two were absolutely gorgeous, and the third not less than a 7. i go to the room with the second one, nathalia. tall, thin, full breast, incredible ass and hips. beautiful model face with the blackish hair, white complexion. she undress and the breast was not less than perfect in size and shape. i was explained the price, from 20,000 cop for practically nothing in a small massage room, to 100,000 for the hour. she was very nice and explained that no bbbj was allowed, her attitude was a little shy. i knew that she was the type of girl i wanted to spend a week together, not an hour in a squalid brothel, so i opted to stay 20 minutes with one intercourse, for 50,000. i just wanted her number and eventually got it. i called her on monday and she promised to meet me at the hotel, but never showed up. no surprise as she never seemed so decided about it. maybe i will try again when i return in bogota in few days.
a nicer story, at night i take a taxi to the clubs, not knowing that it was so close, the guy ask for 3,000 cop. i complain a little and he makes me notice that at night the correct fare was 3,700 so i ended paying that. next thing is that i find myself in this gay disco. only 12,500 cop an free drinks, but when i realized was too late. the clubs with the girls were just by the side and i gave a peek to a place nicely decorated with maybe 10 girls, drinks where 25,000 and the barfine 80,000. that seemed too much to me, crossed the road to this copacabana place, slightly cheaper that the other. there where very few girls inside, all doable but no stunners. the place got slower and slower and i end hooking up this blonde, l. that normally would not be my type. she proved to be great company, and agreed to leave for 100,000 for something that turned to be tln. also the management discounted 10,000 for the regular barfine. i saw her again for another night an again the sex was very good with a lot of partecipation, total gfe if you want, note that is not something that i necessarily look for. her body is not the best but to compensate she has large breast and as i said a great attitude.
one afternoon i also called daniela that was mentioned in another post. she is a young mulatta, nice ass with a some beer belly, blonde curly hair and an ok but not memorable face. she charges cop 60,000 the hour plus taxi, someway she seems not to be inclined to stay beyond the time she has been paid for. covered bj but good sex and attitude, personally i would not repeat if given other options.
i left bogotà for cartagena with a special fare by avianca, only cop 311,000 round-trip. i didn't meet any of these extra security measures mentioned elsewhere, so it is really not necessary to show up before one hour your scheduled departure. they did not even checked id to match boarding pass when boarding. there is free wi-fi in the airport.
will write more about cartagena, in the meantime please check a couple pictures in the photo section.
I be in Colombia in less than two weeks now. Looking forward to the trip. I'll post a report when I get back.
In middle of April I was in Bogota. Reached there on sunday afternoon.
Went ot check Relax on cra. 14 but looded like it was closed. Its just across Abejitas. So I went to Abejitas but all girls were busy. Receptionist askem me to come back in 30 Min. I was feeling horny so I went to Supermasajes on cra 11. I could not find address. There was sign also. so went back to abejitas and waited for them to be free.
Looks like prices have gone up. Before I used to pay 125000 peso F/S, now I was told its 150000 peso.
Anyway there was not much to choose from, only 2 girls were there to chose Ruby. Massage itself was lame but cant complain about "other services".
Looks like Zona Rosa area is dead on Sundays.
Hey guys,
Where is the Zona Rossa in Bogota?
Specifically, if you can tell me the streets that border the area.
Thanks
Zona Rosa is basically between cra 11-16, calle 80-87.
Thanks for the info sx. Was in Bogota on Monday - Wednesday and went to Bar Zhivago (go back a few pages for the address). The place was exactly as described with several knock outs. I opted for the in-house room because I was not sure whether my hotel would allow me to bring a guest.
The bar itself is good to hang out, not much in terms of hustle from the girls and the beers are 10,000COP. I picked out an amazing looking girl from Cali and though she originally asked for $ 100 US, I got her down to $70US (thanks mostly to the information found on this great board...good job jackson). Service was great and left pretty much after I was done since I did not want to get tempted to go for another girl.
Definitely a must see place if you go to Bogota.
Ask any taxista for Centro Comercial Andino and you'll be there.
If they drop you on Carrera 11 just walk through Andino to the other side.
(By the way, if you can't figure out how the taxistas make a living on those fares you've figured it out correctly: they generally can't. Tip them well -- at least if they're straight with you).
[url]http://www.bogotaturismo.gov.co/ciudad/sectores/norte.php#zonarosa[/url]
[QUOTE=Frgethenam]Hey guys,
Where is the Zona Rossa in Bogota?
Specifically, if you can tell me the streets that border the area.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Very few people in Colombia make any money. The custom is not to tip taxistas unless they perform extra duties like loading/unloading luggage or groceries. I have been fucked too many times by crooked taxistas from Cali to Medellin to Cartagena.
Tom 33 is Right !
Don't tip Taxis or Drivers with Private cars UNLESS they perform some special service for you. Local's never tip taxis. I have also been screwed by dishonest Taxi drivers too many times not only in Colombia, but in the DR,San Jose, and Panama City.
Hello,
I just found a blog with plenty of descriptions from mongers about several scorts websites in Bogota.
Unfortunately the website is in spanish but any translator will help.
The website is [url]http://cataresco.********.com/[/url]
Cheers
Ryck
[QUOTE=Tom 33]I have been fucked too many times by crooked taxistas from Cali to Medellin to Cartagena.[/QUOTE]As dishonest and unprofessional as the taxistas are in CTG (no meters + a lot of tourists = dishonesty), I've only encountered professional drivers in MDE.
The taxis in MDE are metered, and every driver has always turned it on without me asking.
I can't speak to Cali taxistas, never having been there, but I think the drivers in MDE are great.
Hi Guys,
I'm arriving to Bogota on Friday and would like to hook up with some fellow members to go out with, looking forward to visiting the piscina. Anyway, I'm coming from Manizales, working, and haven't had much action. Had a friend from work arrange a meeting last night, upscale call girl place, apperantly used by narcs and well do to people. Anyway, a nice student showed up at my hotel last night, 19 years old, light tanned, natural tits, and all in all, a very good experience. Without getting into to much detail, everything was a go, very much a girlfriend experience, great attitude. The downside, US$ 120. A little steep for my taste in latin america, but sinced it was arranged through a friend I didn't want him to look bad, and in the end, it was a good experience, so what the hell. Anyway, looking for some sexy thin sluty high heel women in Bogata for a good shagging. Look forward to meeting anyone whose interested.
Yeah Baby
Yes, the taxis are metered in MDE. Try taking a taxi from point A to point B several different times with different taxistas. You will find many that can find the longest way to go and tack a few mil onto your bill. From Botero Plaza to Parque Lleras I paid anywhere from 4600 to 8000 pesos. Hay ladrones en MDE tambien. My novia was born and raised in MDE.
I will be traveling from Bogota to Puerto Vallarta, Mexico on August 5 and returning to Bogota on August 12. Any information on the most economical airllines to use, and most convienent flight routes will be greatly appreciated, as I finding it will be taking me 2 days using Mexicana and Aeromexico directly out of Bogota.
Just to let you know i spent a week in CTG and was only overcharged by taxi drivers once. And even then it was my fault a bit.
Hey everyone,
Will be going back to Rio next Wednesday, June 22, with Avianca via Bogota, with a nine-hour layover. Will get to BOG around one o'clock in the afternoon and have to catch my flight to GIG at ten at night. My question is: what is the easiest way to get laid in Bogota during my.. well... "layover"? Never been to Columbia, although I am a very experienced traveler living in a Spanish-speaking country and entirely fluent in Spanish. Any recommendations are greatly welcome. Thanks in advance for any advice, fellow mongers, and I promise that I will share whatever intel I pick up on my adventures.
El Austriaco
Hi everyone,
I know this is truly a case of RTFF, but I would really appreciate a hotel recommendation for one that is chica friendly, has a web site and is near the action in Zona Rosa.
I saw where Bukek has asked this question a few months ago and SandRabbit recommended Suites Real 85 and Suites Real 97. Both of those sound great, but do either of them have a web site? It's only going to be for about two nights, but I would really like to see some photos of the place that I choose to stay at. If anyone has any other suggestions/recommendations, please let me know.
Many thanks in advance,
Y & R
Y & R
Hotel Charlotte
Carrera 15 # 87-94
Tel 218 1625, 218 1762, 218 1606, 218 1784
El Austriaco
Try La Piscina
Carrera 15 # 23-66
Tel 341 2420 open from 1.00pm to 2.00am
or try
Castilla
Calle 23 # 14-19
Tel 482 8436, 482 2518, ask for Daneila who used to work at La Isla here en Medellin but now works here en BOG, she was half of my Lesso girlfriends. I´ll be their this Saturday to say hi to her.
Both places closed on Sunday´s
Hope I have been some help, regards
The Aussie.
Thanks for you suggestion, Aussie Greg. I'm going to look into it. Gracias
This is not a place to go alone.
It is in the worst part of town and any foreigner could and will be ripped off.
Bogota is getting much more dangerous for foreigners and the major problem is taxi drivers.
I have had recent bad experiances but I am still alive. Others have not been so lucky!
Take care
[QUOTE=El Austriaco]Hey everyone,
Will be going back to Rio next Wednesday, June 22, with Avianca via Bogota, with a nine-hour layover. Will get to BOG around one o'clock in the afternoon and have to catch my flight to GIG at ten at night. My question is: what is the easiest way to get laid in Bogota during my.. well... "layover"? Never been to Columbia, although I am a very experienced traveler living in a Spanish-speaking country and entirely fluent in Spanish. Any recommendations are greatly welcome. Thanks in advance for any advice, fellow mongers, and I promise that I will share whatever intel I pick up on my adventures.
El Austriaco[/QUOTE]
I would agree that La Piscina is in a bad part of town, but definitely not the worst. There is usually police on hand doing frequent rounds in their cars throughout the night. I've been to that area many times during the afternoon, and late night, walked the area from club to club, without incident.
It's not for the feint of heart, but not as dangerous as people make it out to be, especially if you speak Spanish and don't act flashy. I've gone down to that area at 12 a.m., and when the clubs closd down there, caught taxis off the street to head up to Fortaleza (after-hours spot), without incident.
If you need a taxi from there, the security guys from the clubs will find you a secured taxi, as opposed to you grabbing a random cab off the street. Again, I've never had an issue with taxis in either case, including putting my non-Spanish speaking friend in one to Zona Rosa alone by himself.
Not to challenge anyone, but what's so much more dangerous about Bogota now? And what specific recent negative taxi experiences can anyone relate to the board?
As opposed to the scare tactics, it would serve the board much more purpose if people knew specifically what issues were occurring to make Bogota so dangerous and taxi drivers the issue.
[QUOTE=LatinTraveller]This is not a place to go alone.
It is in the worst part of town and any foreigner could and will be ripped off.
Bogota is getting much more dangerous for foreigners and the major problem is taxi drivers.
I have had recent bad experiances but I am still alive. Others have not been so lucky!
Take care[/QUOTE]
I agree with Hoof. While I cannot speak for Bogota, Colombia in general has become much more safe for locals and tourists. I rode a bus between Medellin and Cali in Jan. of this year. I couldn't have done that some years ago.
I have been travelling to Bogota for more than 20 years.
Last week I was subjected to a kidnapping, assult and robbery arranged by a taxista. I lost all my possessions and credit and debit cards. Because I was on my way to the airport I did not have my gun with me; otherwise the conclusion may have been different.
I had to return to my hotel that night and in the morning the recepcionista was surprised to see that I was still in the hotel, having checked out the previous day. I told her my story and she got all emotional, touching me and telling me how lucky I had been. This was because the previous week another guest at the hotel had suffered a similar experiance but he had been killed.
The security manager at the hotel advised me not to pursue the incident to much as anyone accused would have full knowledge of me in the diposition.
I had to report the incident to the police for insurance and replacement papers purposes. The process took more than six hours at a police station many miles away. The police women taking my report said the problem was growing exponentially every day and there was little they could do about it.
As for the general security situation in Colombia, it did get better but Uribe has taken his eye off the ball in pursuing his campaign for reelection. In the last six months, crime in general has got worse, the farc are again beginning to get the upper hand, and the AUC have been planning murders even as they are sitting at the peace talks.
Two week ago I was in La Piscina, I went with a Colombian friend, we went in his car and we left before dark. It is definetly not a place for a first time visitor to Bogota to venture alone.
That is my take on the security situation and my recent experiance. I am not trying to ruin anyone´s party. But does not the potential threat outweigh a couple of hours of possible pleasure.
LatinTraveller
[QUOTE=Hoof Hunter]I would agree that La Piscina is in a bad part of town, but definitely not the worst. There is usually police on hand doing frequent rounds in their cars throughout the night. I've been to that area many times during the afternoon, and late night, walked the area from club to club, without incident.
It's not for the feint of heart, but not as dangerous as people make it out to be, especially if you speak Spanish and don't act flashy. I've gone down to that area at 12 a.m., and when the clubs closd down there, caught taxis off the street to head up to Fortaleza (after-hours spot), without incident.
If you need a taxi from there, the security guys from the clubs will find you a secured taxi, as opposed to you grabbing a random cab off the street. Again, I've never had an issue with taxis in either case, including putting my non-Spanish speaking friend in one to Zona Rosa alone by himself.
Not to challenge anyone, but what's so much more dangerous about Bogota now? And what specific recent negative taxi experiences can anyone relate to the board?
As opposed to the scare tactics, it would serve the board much more purpose if people knew specifically what issues were occurring to make Bogota so dangerous and taxi drivers the issue.[/QUOTE]
Glad to see you lived to tell us this story. I've heard similar mentions of such occurrences in the past, but never a first-hand account. Sorry to hear about your experience, but glad you knew enough to just give up the possessions and start over.
I do have some questions that may help us future travellers to Bogota.
- What hotel were you staying at in Bogota?
- Where did you get the taxi, off the street or did you call for one? Who arranged it?
- Is that hotel alerting clients of the growing dangers, considering they recently had a similar situation which resulting in a murder?
- Or did you notice any tightening of security there?
Thanks for sharing!!!
[QUOTE=LatinTraveller]I have been travelling to Bogota for more than 20 years.
Last week I was subjected to a kidnapping, assult and robbery arranged by a taxista. I lost all my possessions and credit and debit cards. Because I was on my way to the airport I did not have my gun with me; otherwise the conclusion may have been different.
I had to return to my hotel that night and in the morning the recepcionista was surprised to see that I was still in the hotel, having checked out the previous day. I told her my story and she got all emotional, touching me and telling me how lucky I had been. This was because the previous week another guest at the hotel had suffered a similar experiance but he had been killed.
The security manager at the hotel advised me not to pursue the incident to much as anyone accused would have full knowledge of me in the diposition.
I had to report the incident to the police for insurance and replacement papers purposes. The process took more than six hours at a police station many miles away. The police women taking my report said the problem was growing exponentially every day and there was little they could do about it.
As for the general security situation in Colombia, it did get better but Uribe has taken his eye off the ball in pursuing his campaign for reelection. In the last six months, crime in general has got worse, the farc are again beginning to get the upper hand, and the AUC have been planning murders even as they are sitting at the peace talks.
Two week ago I was in La Piscina, I went with a Colombian friend, we went in his car and we left before dark. It is definetly not a place for a first time visitor to Bogota to venture alone.
That is my take on the security situation and my recent experiance. I am not trying to ruin anyone´s party. But does not the potential threat outweigh a couple of hours of possible pleasure.
LatinTraveller[/QUOTE]
HH
I lost material things but it could have been much worse.
The hotel I stay in is the Casa Dann Carlton on 94 with 19. Security there is tight.
I got the taxi by asking where I was to call me a taxi. I have 100% confidence in these people. The problem is people monitor the airwaves to steal clients. I went from there to hotel to pick up my bags.
The hotel has the taxista and the car on video but the implication is that the aftermath could be more dangerous than the incident. Having said this there is an implicit retribution process.
Obviously the hotel feels that their security is good and it is good. However, I guess that they cannot be responsible for the safety of all their guests. They have always looked after me in an exempletory fashion and I would have no hesitation in giving a recomendation. Sometimes their concern could be considered over the top but at the end of the day they are only concerned for the guest.
My only motive is to warn.
Take care. I was lucky!
LatinTraveller
[QUOTE=Hoof Hunter]Glad to see you lived to tell us this story. I've heard similar mentions of such occurrences in the past, but never a first-hand account. Sorry to hear about your experience, but glad you knew enough to just give up the possessions and start over.
I do have some questions that may help us future travellers to Bogota.
- What hotel were you staying at in Bogota?
- Where did you get the taxi, off the street or did you call for one? Who arranged it?
- Is that hotel alerting clients of the growing dangers, considering they recently had a similar situation which resulting in a murder?
- Or did you notice any tightening of security there?
Thanks for sharing!!![/QUOTE]
Thanks for the warning.
One time in MDE centro around midnight my hotel called a cab for me. They gave me a piece of paper with the taxi number on it. Wouldn't something like that preclude a ladrone intercepting the call?
When I stay at Suite Real 85, when the hotel calls a cab for me, the security guard on duty checks the taxi driver to be sure, before I get in. They've been doing that since my 1st visit, and I've watched the same routine for other people as well.
Also, the hotel normally calls their trusted taxi drivers' cellulars, not taxi services, which I guess would reduce the "exposure" of the call to a service where cars are radioed. In fact, I specifically have been asking for the same driver since my 1st visit. He's well-known there and a very respectful, honest person. However, he works from 6 a.m. - 6 p.m. only. No nights.
Thanks for the warning, LT. Much appreciated. I would hope that the Dann Carlton would change up their procedure since TWO of their guests have been set-up.
[QUOTE=Tom 33]Thanks for the warning.
One time in MDE centro around midnight my hotel called a cab for me. They gave me a piece of paper with the taxi number on it. Wouldn't something like that preclude a ladrone intercepting the call?[/QUOTE]
I know most Colombianos pack heat but wonder about the legality of extranjeros packing heat.
Also, THE biggest problem facing Colombia is neither FARC nor drugs nor the paras. The biggest problem is the fucked up justice system that requires that victims and witness address be givenm to the accused (making it easy for them to hire sicarios to whack witnesses before trial). This is INSANE and will be the first thing that I change when I am appointed minister of justice.
Surfer
I have a permit for my gun.
They would not have had an opportunity to frisk me. I had enough time to kill the driver and at least one of the perps. This would have been sufficient disincentive to the other.
Take care
LatinTraveller
[QUOTE=Surfer]I know most Colombianos pack heat but wonder about the legality of extranjeros packing heat.
Also, THE biggest problem facing Colombia is neither FARC nor drugs nor the paras. The biggest problem is the fucked up justice system that requires that victims and witness address be givenm to the accused (making it easy for them to hire sicarios to whack witnesses before trial). This is INSANE and will be the first thing that I change when I am appointed minister of justice.[/QUOTE]
My trip to Bogota has been delayed one week, but I'll be arriving next Friday and staying at the Real Suites. Any fellow hobbyist want to meet and go out, just drop me a note. By the way, I'm fluent in Spanish so I can help anyone who might need it and I certainly won't slow anyone down that doesn't.
Hope your all having a good shag tonight.
Yeah Baby
I've stayed at Suites Real 85. Their taxi security is impeccable. The security guard goes out first and ids the cabbie.
LT, it seems as if you called the taxi from another location, then went to Casa Dann for your stuff, and kept the same taxi.
Funny thing, I've walked areas of north Bogota at night, and no one has fucked with me. Dumb luck, I guess.
Also, have you previously had occasion to use yiur piece while in BOG?
I flag down taxistas on the street all the time and have been lucky as IU have neverhad any incident. I used to thibnk the hotel writing the plate number was overkill, but I guess you cannot be too safe. I DO find BOG to feel more unsafe than any other city in Colombia, despite Cali having the reputation as the most dangerous. Suerte compadre
You can get a Colombian drivers license for a 190,000 pesos
Surfer
If you have a cedula it is not difficult to get a gun permit.
The system is administered ny the Armed Forces as opposed to the police. You go to DAS and get a good conduct report. You get a letter from a psychologist and another saying you have experiance in handling arms as well as a couple of references. You buy a form for say $20 and wait a couple of days and then they tell you to come to the arms shop to choose your piece.
Mine cost $1,700,000, twice as much as could be bought on the street.
You are allowed to transport you gun nationally but you have to be careful of local regulations. For example you need special permission to carry at the weekend in Bogota and In Cartagena from 21 December to 12 January, but special permission is not difficult to get.
As for using it, I have not actually killed anyone yet but I have shot a couple of people up and also have shot up a few cars and taxis. Normally, if I begin to feel uneasy and I am carrying I advise the driver and give hime a quick glimpse. This tends to focus his mind on his life and away from my life!
However, I would have no hesitation in using it if I thought it would ease a situation.
In relation to my incident, five guys have been picked up and next time I am in Bogota I will see if I identify them.
Take care
LatinTraveller
[QUOTE=Surfer]Also, have you previously had occasion to use yiur piece while in BOG?
I flag down taxistas on the street all the time and have been lucky as IU have neverhad any incident. I used to thibnk the hotel writing the plate number was overkill, but I guess you cannot be too safe. I DO find BOG to feel more unsafe than any other city in Colombia, despite Cali having the reputation as the most dangerous. Suerte compadre[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Surfer]I know most Colombianos pack heat but wonder about the legality of extranjeros packing heat.[/QUOTE]
I don't know what circles you move in but not one of my Colombian friends "packs heat".
Hey Guys,
Anyone interested in hooking up this Friday. If any fellow mongers are arriving to Bogota this weekend and looking to go out with fellow hobbyist, let me know.
Yeah Baby
Hey guys,
I am in Bogota for 2 days on business. Have mongered in Cosat Rica and TJ so somewhat experienced.
I will not really have a lot of time apart from business assosciates though. Any suggestions (pm's are fine) of an agency with a website that will send girls to hotels?
Thanks much
I am going to Bogota in a couple months to meet with a Colombiana I met here in the USA (non-sex worker, regular girl), what should I be especially on the look out for. I have spent a lot of time in caracas. is it different in Colombia?
Log on to Conexcol.com for escorts and you will find tons of escort agencies.
Day 0 – Arrived in Bogota late at night. I asked the hotel to send a driver in order to avoid the problems that can occur ,as reported by LatinTraveller earlier in the Bogota thread. The hotel sent a nice older gentleman called Jose Alvana (Tel: +57 310 480 3559). On the ride to the hotel Jose provided me with several useful titbits of information: 1) The hotel is very close to the Zona Rosa, a chic part of town. 2) There are unmarked houses around town, which are essentially brothels. The going rates are COP 40,000-60,000 per hour with young quality girls on offer. Ironically, it was a gringo who introduced him to some of these places. 3) He would be more than happy to take me to some of these locations and his taxi rates are a reasonable COP 12,000 per hour (Though this did not stop the hotel charging me COP 25,000 for the 30 minute ride from the airport). 4) There are shopping centers in the Zona Rosa but they are very expensive. He suggested much better deals are to be had at the Centro Commercial Unicentro and Centro Comercial Andrecito Sur.
I made it to the hotel, checked in, unpacked and collapsed.
Day 1 - I chose the Real Suites 85 ([url]www.suitesreal.com/85/[/url], Carrera 18 No. 84-56, Tel: +57 1 218 0100) as my base of operations. Being a frequent business traveller, I am used to American hotel chains such as Hyatt, Hilton, Sheraton and the like. When compared to that calibre of hotel the Real Suites is not in the same league. However, I am paying for the hotel myself on this trip and at COP 104,500 per night (breakfast included) the Real Suites is a great deal especially given its location, namely a 5-minute walk to the chic Zona Rosa district of Bogota. The rooms are clean (albeit a little small), the hotel is safe, there is an OPEN 24 Hours supermarket close by and, most importantly, I have not been hassled or asked for extra payments to bring guests up to my suite.
The trip started off on the wrong foot as a very cute Colombian nena I had been courting and cultivating online for several weeks decided, for reasons known only to herself, not to go through with meeting me. Fortunately, there is a plan B (and plan C for that matter) so the trip will not be a total waste.
A little research on the WSG Colombia forum surfaced [url]www.clasifica.com[/url]. Under the Personales section, I selected [Santa Fe de Bogota] and [Mujeres buscando Hombres]. There were 3 or 4 girls who looked interesting. Monica looked really hot but she quoted COP 150,000 per hour when I called her, which seemed a little steep. That said, I popped into the Zona Roas Abejita’s massage parlor later in the day and the going rate was also COP 150,000 per hour, though it must be said that there are some knockouts in the establishment.
Two student girls advertising on clasifica, Nicolle and Daniela, were quoting COP 60,000 per hour. I selected Daniela, primarily because Nicolle did not answer the phone when I called her. One hour later, Daniela was in my hotel room posing for these pictures. She spent two hours with me and was well worth the COP 140,000 (20K for the taxi) I paid. She had rules, no BBBJ for example, but within those rules she provided good service. The right attitude is an important thing in a service provider and I could certainly not fault Daniela in that department. She asked me not to photograph her face, which was ok with me as that feature was a little disappointing when compared to the rest of her. As you can see, I dressed her up in stockings and tights, which I find to be a turn-on, for the session. I used a sex toy on her (see photos) and I think it was her first time because she really got into it. She came twice, which was a pleasure to watch and that alone was worth the price of admission.
As already mentioned, in the afternoon I located the Abejita massage parlor ([url]www.abejita.com[/url], Carrera 14 No. 83-23, Tel: +57 1 616 2255 & +57 1 616 4863). A little hard to find but well worth it as there are some model calibre women to be found. Open from 10am-9pm (I think) and a basic massage is COP 30,000. I was quoted COP 150,000 for “servicio completo”, which I assume will be about an hour’s worth of fun. I passed on Abejita today but tomorrow is another day.
In the early evening I learned an important lesson. Do not try and get anywhere by taxi during rush hour (around 6:30pm onwards). Rush hour traffic in Bogota is a nightmare and a 10-minute ride ended up taking 45 minutes. My destination was the Abado massage parlor (Carrera 15 No. 116-59 Apartment 203, Tel: +57 1 637 6627). A real rundown place at the opposite end of the spectrum from Abejita’s, if you will. Still, at COP 30,000 for a massage with a happy ending, who is complaining? Full service was quoted at COP 50,000. I was a given a choice of two masseurs and picked a 22 year-old blonde names Stefanie.
On the way back to the hotel I stopped at Juan Pablo karaoke (Carrera 18, No. 93A-83, Tel. +97 1 256 8925). There have been good reports on this place but I must have picked a bad night or maybe I just got there too early. When I walked in there were 7-8 girls sitting at the bar and no customers except me. In those situations my first instinct is to turn around and walk out of the place but I sat down and ordered a drink. Consistent with many other karaoke bars I have visited, the alcoholic drinks are way over-priced and so I ordered a ginger ale, which put me back COP 5,000. There were two girls in the place that I thought were really attractive and as luck would have it one of them sat down next to me and I tried to have a conversation with her in my very limited Spanish. Here is the bottom line: it costs USD 30 or COP 70,000 to bar-fine these girls. This allows you to walk out of the place with the beauty of your choice. What happens after that, and at what price, is negotiated between you and the girl. Since I had just left the massage parlour I had no intention of taking her out and did not get into a price discussion. Something tells me that her opening price would have been COP 150,000 per hour but that is just a hunch and not a quoted price.
Day 2 – It is day 2 of my Bogota adventure. I woke up early and went for a run. On the way back I stopped by the supermarket and purchased breakfast: two croissants, a slice of pineapple and a bottle of freshly squeezed OJ. The total damage was COP 4,500 or about USD 2. Now that is what I call value for money! I am waiting for a call from another online contact and hope this does not end up like yesterday.
11:00am - Not having much luck with the online girls. This one shows up but is unwilling to have her photos taken. It is something I should have clarified online before bringing her to the hotel. Total damage is COP 18,000 for taxis and the time I wasted chasing her, which was not much thank God.
I have an appointment with yet another online girl in the evening. Sandy shows up at my door at around 8:30pm and my luck finally turns. Sandy is better in the flesh than in the photos she sent me and has a great attitude besides. She is not so much a pro as a regular girl willing to try something a little different. As you can see from the attached photos, Sandy has great a great body and legs. I am respecting her request not to show her face but it matches the rest of her in terms of beauty and sexuality. I hope you guys forgive me for not doing any additional research because I ended up spending the last two days in Colombia with Sandy on the theory that it was not going to get any better than this.
Photos To Be Posted Separately
Try [url]www.clasifica.com[/url]. It worked for me and the girls I talked to )Nicolle & Daniela) were motivated.
The Cat
Thecatsmeow88
That's a solid report.
Thank you.
ferolga
Hi everyone,
I’m trying to finalize my list of places to go in Bogotá. Unfortunately, I won’t have much time there (2-nights total) and under the circumstances, I would rather start out by going to some of the higher-end clubs/bars in Bogotá since my time is so limited. Here are some places that I’ve read about that sound interesting, but please let me know if I have left off a “must visit place” or if you have other recommendations. I have also made a similar post in the [color=red][post=381001] Cartagena section[/post][/color], if you want to take a look at my checklist for that city too:
massage parlors:
Cleopatra Club
Barby's
Bars/Clubs:
Casanova
Juan Pablo/Zhivago Bar
Lancaster
Thanks in advance,
Y & R
written about it several times on older threads here. Nice quality chicas, but NOT a neighborhood to go wandering around at night (hop out of your taxi and go DIRECTLY inside). Less gringos than "upscale" Zona Norte clubs (the Triangle around Casanovas).
Surfer, I remember your good reviews on here, so I was kind of puzzled when I actually checked out La 49. I arrived at around midnight, stayed plenty of time. There were only 2 strip shows over the course of a few hours, neither was really hot or a great looking girl.
My friends also had a similar lacklustre experience. We both went on different Friday nights -- maybe that wasn't a good night to go?
I admit I had been spoiled for quality, like at La Isla in Medellin, and picking up Colombian freelancers in general.
I have to say that when you arrive by taxi you'll have no choice but to go inside, as there's a melee of about 10 touts getting you to enter. There's a copycat "Whiskeria" two doors down, and each place's touts are jostling for position to try and shepherd you into their place. La 49 is the one on your right hand side as you face the doorways to enter.
Like Sao Paolo or other big cities that many flee on weekends, La 49 MIGHT be better midwek (I went three times and believe each was midweek, but am not certain). Cachorro I, too, MUCH prefer Medellin (and Cali) to BOG, but I was merely trying to help the guy out with another option not already on his list. The escorts from El Tiempo seemed a better option, and I had fun down in Centro clubs (but I went in the afternoon and with a trusted taxista). NOT an area for a solo gringo to cruise at night.
Suerte compadre
Not a true trip report, but a quick observation.
Went downtown for the first time the other night. Went by the area by the parque nacional, but didn't park until arriving in the Zona Rosa.
What a great area. I know I was within yards of establishments that I need to see and report on one day, but, for this Thursday night, I really enjoyed the local atmosphere. Beautiful people filled every establishment, particularly a small dance-oriented joint my guide directed me to. Great "Happy Hours," too. I don't know what the drink was, but it was free.
Also, a nice Irish pub. Not the one with a shamrock out front, but a two-story, indoor-outdoor pub that specializes in a 110 ounce cylinder they deliver to your table. It has a tap near the bottom and looks SO good. The beer was delicious.
So, the crime is way down, the girls are beautiful, the prices are somewhat higher than historic averages, but there is a lot of fun to be had.
Hope to see some of you guys down there. I usually go to Sao Paulo, Buenos Aires, Santiago and San Jose for work/pleasure, but will have some quick visits to Bogota, as well.
FT
Thank you for the detailed and amazing report! It's exactly my style of reporting. Details are most important. You've combined an informative report with excellent pics. They should declare you senior member. You are an example for the other members. Keep the good work going on!
In the past, I've stayed at the Chile Inn, which is on 82nd St right near La Boheme, I believe. It costs about 105,000 pesos per night. It's a nice simple hotel, nothing fancy, but clean and comfortable. It's close to Chapinero, which I like, and a bit away from the more touristy areas, which I also like. But on this trip I'm going with a friend and he wants to stay in a fancier hotel. He wants to stay in either the Don Carlton or the Dan something else, both five-star hotels. One costs 140,000 pesos plus tax without breakfast and the other is 190,000 pesos plus tax with breakfast. Basically, they both cost almost $100 a night with two breakfasts. This seems to me incredibly exorbitant for a weekend in a Third World country.
I keep asking people if there is a hotels.com kind of web site for Colombia. I search in English and in Spanish but all of the web sites that I find are very expensive. Does anyone know of a good web site that had really good deals? Does anyone know of a Colombian travel agent with an e-mail address who offers really good package deals?
Anyone like to make some comparisons of these 2 places? I like lighter georgeous women..
Did you try this already? [url]http://www.laguiahotelera.com/guia_hotelera/home.aspx[/url]
I used to stay in the Dann Carlton when I wanted something really nice, and the Dann Norte when I wanted something a bit cheaper, but the last few times I've had no end of problems with the Norte: when the dollar is rising they want to fix the price in dollars and when its falling in pesos. So you can agree a price with them in advance only to discover that that was the price in (they pick a currency) on (pick a date) and now needs to be "corrected".
Personally, I've had my fill of run-ins with the f*ckers, and I'm looking elsewhere. Maybe one of the apartasuites?
[QUOTE=I Jags]Anyone like to make some comparisons of these 2 places? I like lighter georgeous women..[/QUOTE]
I can give you my COLOMBIAN point of view, PAISAS ( girls from Medellin ) are much prettier, and they have this sexi accent that drives me wild.Bogota,don`t get me wrong, has pretty women too, and also where I live in Barranquilla, they are sexier than Bogota`s women, but to me I would rate Cali and Medellin women as No. 1 and Barranquilla as no. 2. I hope this helps. Peter Solano.
[QUOTE=Cuba Tourist]In the past, I've stayed at the Chile Inn, which is on 82nd St right near La Boheme, I believe. It costs about 105,000 pesos per night. It's a nice simple hotel, nothing fancy, but clean and comfortable. It's close to Chapinero, which I like, and a bit away from the more touristy areas, which I also like. But on this trip I'm going with a friend and he wants to stay in a fancier hotel. He wants to stay in either the Don Carlton or the Dan something else, both five-star hotels. One costs 140,000 pesos plus tax without breakfast and the other is 190,000 pesos plus tax with breakfast. Basically, they both cost almost $100 a night with two breakfasts. This seems to me incredibly exorbitant for a weekend in a Third World country.
I keep asking people if there is a hotels.com kind of web site for Colombia. I search in English and in Spanish but all of the web sites that I find are very expensive. Does anyone know of a good web site that had really good deals? Does anyone know of a Colombian travel agent with an e-mail address who offers really good package deals?[/QUOTE]
WE Colombians do not appreciate this THIRD WORLD COUNTRY label some of you give us.And think that because we are a third world Country (if we really are) Everything HAS to be cheap, the Hotels, women etc.
I am a bit off in 5 Star Hotel prices in the US, but I am sure it is more than $100/night, so that should not surprise you.Here you get what you pay for.
Also that COL$190.000 comes to about $88 at COL$2140 to $1 Exchange rate.Peter Solano.
The Sofitel in Bogota is a very nice Hotel.
Ouch!!
That's kind of a low blow. No way would I clasify Colombia as a 3rd world country. Poor, yes. But not 3rd world.
What other 3rd world countries pull in the kind of U.S. money (albeit government funded) that Colombia does. Or produce fantastic musicans, film artists, world power futbol teams, and an incrediable legacy. It carries alot of class, elegance and style in various parts of the country. I think it rocks!!
Try hanging out in El Salvador, Honduras & Nicaragua for a good amount of time...90% of those countries are considered 3rd world...believe me, I know.
Anyway, I agree. For a 5 star hotel, and by that I mean a "known" chain type either european or american known, you'll pay $100 & up. You get what you pay for as P. Solano said. Be it in Colombia, Lima, San Salvador, Managua, wherever.
But there's plenty of nice apartment rentals, and other local 5 star locations for less.
eric7
Hi Eric
When you were talking about ¨fantastic musicans, film artists, world power football teams, beautifull woman¨.
You were talking about Medellin ?
The Aussie.
[QUOTE=eric7]Ouch!!
That's kind of a low blow. No way would I clasify Colombia as a 3rd world country. Poor, yes. But not 3rd world.
What other 3rd world countries pull in the kind of U.S. money (albeit government funded) that Colombia does. Or produce fantastic musicans, film artists, world power futbol teams, and an incrediable legacy. It carries alot of class, elegance and style in various parts of the country. I think it rocks!!
Try hanging out in El Salvador, Honduras & Nicaragua for a good amount of time...90% of those countries are considered 3rd world...believe me, I know.
Anyway, I agree. For a 5 star hotel, and by that I mean a "known" chain type either european or american known, you'll pay $100 & up. You get what you pay for as P. Solano said. Be it in Colombia, Lima, San Salvador, Managua, wherever.
But there's plenty of nice apartment rentals, and other local 5 star locations for less.
eric7[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Aussie Greg]Hi Eric
When you were talking about ¨fantastic musicans, film artists, world power football teams, beautifull woman¨.
You were talking about Medellin ?
The Aussie.[/QUOTE]
Aussie,
SOCCER TEAMS, ( Futbol) Peter.
Hi
I was just referring to Colombia as a whole, since it had been referenced as a third world country.
They don't even use the term, "Third World," anymore. Countries are now "developing." Every South American country falls under this description, even Brazil. It's not a bad thing. In fact, there are many economic advantages to having that classification. Really, I don't see any issue with the original term, but it became a stigma of sorts. I'm pretty sure that European countries were first world, U.S. and Canada were 2nd, and the remainder of the Americas and Africa were 3rd.
Clearly, there are different plateaus of "developing." Columbia, Chile, Brazil and, despite frequent meltdowns, Argentina are far different from Uruguay and Paraguay. Where do you suppose Venezuela falls?
FT
There's a lot of confusion about the term "Third World", and for good reason: it's out of date. It's roots are in the Cold War. The terms were coined in the 1950's by someone prominent in foreign affairs, maybe Dag Hammarksjold or Dean Acheson, I can't remember exactly. The "First World" refered to the Western Democracies and the "Second World" to Communist countries. The "Third World" encompassed the mass of non-aligned nations. Because the majority of non-aligned countries were "under-developed", "Third World" became synonymous with that term.
The World Bank uses more precise terminology: "Developed", "Developing", and "Less Developed. " The confusion is the result of different people using "Third World" to signify either "Developing", "Less Developed", or both. It's impossible to say who is right.
P.S. I'm sure that the World Bank classifies Venezuela as "Developing", but having lived here for a number of years "Regressing" would be more appropriate.
Most Americans do not even know what this term means. It is strictly a term used for classifing a countries economy. It is exactly this misguided stigma and our own PC(political correctness) that gave way to the new terms "Developing Countries" or emerging markets. It also refers to a country as a whole, regardless if that country possesses world class cities,Cultural Monuments or whatever. I do however admit that the banking systems here are antiquated, Corruption is world class and starting a legitimate business her is a bureaucratic nightmare.
But then most Americans do not realize there country and economy are crumbling much like England 100 years ago, Russia 20 years, ago and Japan 10 years ago. The future belongs to the Chinese and her trading partners.It is precisely for this reason that countries like Peru are refusing to sign America's trade agreements.
IMHO,
LB
From word origins dot org:
This political term is originally French. Tiers Monde was coined in 1955 by French demographer Alfred Sauvy and first used in print the following year by G. Balandier. The English is a literal translation, or calque, of the French.
Sauvy used the archaic tiers instead of the modern troisième as a parallel construction to the Tiers État, or Third Estate. The term quickly entered English soon after its coining.
The First World is the industrialized West, the Second World are the Communist nations of the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe, and the Third World are all the rest.
(Source: Oxford English Dictionary, 2nd Edition)
There was an article in the paper this morning about the papal election. They reported that through acquiring a secret diary it was determined that a very close selection was the Cardinal from Argentina. After a lot of rambling they indicated that the next pope would probably come from "one of the third world countries in SA". Apparently they classify all of SA as third world. But don't forget the Amerian newspapers were chastised for using the word refugees to describe US citizens escaping from Hurrican Katrina.
This may be the first post ever on the ISG to reference a papal election!
I heard La Piscina opened a branch near 82 street. Has anybody been there? Is the Sofitel girl-friendly?
Planning a 30 day trip to Columbia
I near help on where I should go 1st:
Cali, Mede, or Bogota.
Which is cheaper departing from Miami?
I am ending 11 yrs of travling to Brazil because I have mastered it. (North & South), experienced 4 Carnivals.
Is Columbia cheaper?
Can I rent a studio apartment in a working class neighborhood. How much per night.
I would like to visit small towns outside of Mede, Cali, and Bogo.
I am doing as much research & reading of this site as possible.
Can you please post the 5 star places to find 9's and 10's in Cali, Bogo & Mede.
Would you recommend long distance bus travel from different cities?
I see PUSSY SEEKER II seems 2 B one top dawg among others with experience, I can use the help PSII.
Please feel free to post helping advice anyone
Gentleman,
I have been to Bogota a few times since my wife is a Cachaca. In all of my previous visits we stay with her family close to the airport, and when I can dip out I usually look in the back of El Tiempo for a casa and jump in a taxi run off to the casa preferably in the afternoon since in the morning the only girls that seem to be in the casas are the ones that live there and maybe a 6 at best, plus they always try to Gringo price me for a short time. I have heard that local prices in a nondescript casa is like 30k cop.
Ok to my point... I will be going there this spring and will have 2 days all to myself in the city, on a secret agent mission. I need to know a few things.
1. I want to stay in a nice hotel close to Chapinero but not in Chapinero.
2. The house must be girl friendly I will pay double occ.
3. Are doormen good for sending fine chicas to your room, or should I call an escort service from the back of El-tiempo?
4. I have heard that lots of the web sited for acompanantes I have found have phony pics and lazy women. I want ardientes!! doty, gfe, bbbj cfs. Me gusta me chicas joven y limpia. Possible?
I have been married to a Bogotana for 14 years and she is sweet, OI met her in the states as a student. But you know I have that monger wander feeling.
All help is appreciated. I do not care how much the hotel is I have $$ I just dont want a walk of shame, I trt to be discreet.
I will be making posts here I just joined and look for some good pics when I make my trip ,some of these pics look like they were taken with cell phones.
[QUOTE=Trickbaby] I do not care how much the hotel is I have $$ [/QUOTE]I can not help you much in Bogota as I am based in Barranquilla. BUT I can tell you through experience that a very nice expensive Hotel will not let you run your show,they wil simply not let the girls in as they give the Hotel a bad name.
That is the case here in the 5 Star hotels that we have , and anybody that says the opposite is just a big liar.
What you need is a clean safe place that will be girl friendly even if you have to pay an additional charge. I am sure the true Bogota Mongers will be able to help you. Peter.
Hey Tripbaby -
What is the meaning of Cachaca as you have used it in your report? I know that cachaca is a Brazilian liquor made from sugar cane, but you have used it as your wife is "cachaca". Is that slang for a Brazilian woman? or ??
It is curious what the various latin countries call their young women. Examples:
Honduras= Catrachas
Gutemala = Chapinas
Costa Rica = Ticas
I dated a Colombian woman for a brief time and she said that the Colombianas are sometimes called sardinas.
So, what is a Cachaca?
Thanks.
CB
Thanks,
[QUOTE=Clodbuster]What is the meaning of Cachaca?[/QUOTE]
Cachaca is a name given by the people of the COAST , ex. Where I am, to refer to people from the INTERIOR part of the Country.
They can be from Cali, Medellin, Bucaramanga ,Bogota etc.
But it is mostly used to refer to people from Bogota. Peter.
Had not heard cachaca.
Sardinas (female of sardines, the tiny fish) refers to teenagers of any nationality, not Colombianas per se.
[QUOTE=Surfer]Had not heard cachaca.
Sardinas (female of sardines, the tiny fish) refers to teenagers of any nationality, not Colombianas per se.[/QUOTE]
Also, but that is what you would hear in Medellin or Cali not in Bquilla. Or Cartagena,or Santa Marta or other parts of the Coast.
The term SARDINA refers to a female teenager as a male teenager would be SARDINO.
But did you ever hear about UNA SARDINA CACHACA QUE ESTA BUENISIMA? :) Peter.
I hate to have to correct you. It is Rolos. The double L makes a big difference in Spanish. But what the fuck do I know. I only live here.
[QUOTE=Tom 33]I hate to have to correct you. It is Rolos. The double L makes a big difference in Spanish. But what the fuck do I know. I only live here.[/QUOTE] You are right Tom 33. Oops.... I did not see the double L. Sorry..... Peter.
Cachaco has several meanings based on it's context, to wit;
Noun - Cachaco - a species of fish , which is particularly ugly; "tu te ves como un cachaco". adjective - slang - to be particullarly well dressed; "tu te ves cachaco/cachaca". Noun - slang - a well dressed man/woman. Noun - slang - a man woman from the coast.
Can someone provide updated report on Relax massgae/ Abjitas?
Also, is there any other massage parlour aroung Zona Rosa?
Thanks
Tom is absolutely correct that Rolo has only one L (lest it be pronounced royo) and I did not notice my error until he corrected it.
You know what I find amusing? it is as if every state in Colombia is autonamous of the other. My wife is Rola however she seems to only make friends here in the States with other Bogotanas, Women from Medellin think Rolas are stuck up, Rolas think Paisas are Guajiras, All the women think Calenas are cheap just because they like to show off their bodies. I just get a laugh out of the stereaotypes they they label each other with. I have found Colombians to be extremely amable, but class conciense they are. Anyway just felt like spouting.
Looking for a place called Tamaguchi in Bogota in one of barrios in Santa Fe. Can someone help?
Thanks alot
And just having money is not enough to be acepted: nouveau riche (read: drug industry) are shunned by high society as scum of the Earth.
The envy of Calenas is understandable (they got it and flaunt it, and even if the Rolas had as much it is too cold to flaunt it the way they do in Valle). This is part of the reason I still feel Cali presents more eye candy than elsewhere.
Hey, what exactly did you write in your ad? Please share. Can't get PMs, because of credit cards, current divorce, etc. I am going next week to Colombia next week, permanently. I would like to hook up a couple of morenas, I just love brown skin. But I digress.
What did your ad say, or could you steer me towards a successful ad?
Cheers,
PW
[QUOTE=Pussy Seeker II]Sorry buddy, I can not help you, I have never been there, nor do I speak a word of Spanish. POOR me ONLY have 3 girlfriends :) through a newspaper ad I had published in the Barranquila paper.But I am sure Surfer or other serious Mongers will gladly help you, and by reading the threads, traveling by bus outside those cities is a definitive NO NO.Good luck, if you need anything else PM, Cheers,PSII.[/QUOTE]
Pussyseeker - thanks for the input on the ad. I will figure out how to contact Peter when I get settled in country.
Next Question:
I met my new boss today, and found out that I'll be in Bogota sometime next week, probably for around a week, before I head out to my site.
Anyone who would like to be a tourguide to the seamy side of Bogota, please PM me. Failing that, what are the names, prices and reviews for full service titty bars in Bogota. Beautiful women are required. Just any old cooch isn't enough.
Please help... I am currently divorcing a Colombian visa hound in the US, and consequently, I haven't had an impressive provider in a long time
Thanks,
PW
"Join the Fight - Help prevent DSB (deadly sperm buildup)"
PW, from your postings I deduct that you will not live in Bogota? I am based in Barranquilla and can only help you here. Anyway my phone number is (5) 378 4656, and Cell (03) 310 624 4078 Good luck to you. Peter.
P.S. Pussy Seeker II, Thanks for everything and your kind words in my space. I am glad things are working out great for you.I am sorry you could not make it here this year.Well perhaps next.You have these girls boiling over you for what I can see. You little devil you. :)
Does anyone know the Santa Fe area of Bogota?
Can someone help me out please?
[QUOTE=Penis Wrinkle]
Please help... I am currently divorcing a Colombian visa hound in the US, and consequently, I haven't had an impressive provider in a long time
Thanks,
PW
"Join the Fight - Help prevent DSB (deadly sperm buildup)"[/QUOTE]
I know this could be quiet to personal to publish overhere PW. In any case maybe you can point what you have learned out of it, so our fellow mongers; considdering just that "inch" more besides just getting laid; have to watch out for, they do not get trapped by a visa hound.
Thanks in advance for your feedback
[QUOTE=Cream on Top]I know this could be quiet to personal to publish overhere PW. In any case maybe you can point what you have learned out of it, so our fellow mongers; considdering just that "inch" more besides just getting laid; have to watch out for, they do not get trapped by a visa hound.
Thanks in advance for your feedback[/QUOTE]Hmmm. I have been trying to get with the owner of the agency where I met her. I want to run by him, the stages and how things went. I hope to learn what is typical, and what should have been a red flag.
I am pretty shook up, becuase I usually understand most things that I come across, but I have no idea why this went so bad, so quickly. I do know that I SHOULD have shut it down after the first stupid argument.
Maybe some other mongers can answer this question: Is it normal for a Colombian woman to invite herself to sleepover at your place?
Our second Day together, sitting in her sister's living room, and having met her family, she looked at me and said "I am sleeping in your room tonight".
No sex occurred. It was one day later that we did the nasty. She told me that it was some kind of test to see if I would push her for sex. She said, had I pushed her for sex, she would have, but she wouldn't have seen me again. I also learned that she was a liar. So the previous statement probably was not true.
One thing I have found in common with my failed relationships? None of them had parents who were married. More strangely, in all of my serious relationships, the woman was raised be her grandmother. Important? I don't know. But I do know that she had no one around to teach her to cook, or how to conduct herself around a man, or how to be a wife.
I can tell you this. I met her, extended an extra week to be with her more. I went back to the States, and after a week of misery, I returned for another three months of living together.
Problem? I kept making excuses for her. She is stressed because she know the visa wait will be long. She is stressed because she knows that we will part on 30 December, and won't see each other until she gets to the US.
Then, in the US, the excuses for the fighting included - She is stressed because we need to get married for her to continue her papers, etc.
I was very open and non-judgmental to a different culture. I know that Spanish can come across as rude, or overly direct in English. So I downplayed the way she acted.
She actually told me that if she had only wanted the visa, she'd have been nice, but her hatefulness was proof that she was be honest and sincere. How is that for reverse logic?
My advice? Don't write off bad behaviour as "Maybe it is normal here". And don't put up with much. The population of Colombia is 44 million. According to the CIA world factbook, 14 million are aged 15-64. Don't weird out, that is how the data is released and no further breakout is provided.
Whatever - long story short (too late) Don't put up with much, there are too many beauties there to take any crap off of one of them. If the woman can't be normal or nice in her own country, she'll never be able to deal with all of the changes the US would represent, should you bring her here.
Also, INS does NOT have a good method to remove her. If she gets to the US, she gets all sorts of rights, and INS list no method on how to remove a mistake. I asked mine to leave several times, and she said "Buy a ticket". But knowing about how she lies, and that I couldn't FORCE her into the plane, I was forced to try to make the best of it.
Other advice that I have come across since this debacle started- Do NOT let your Colombian get in with the latino sub-culture in the south part of the US, ie Texas, California, etc. She will rub elbows with the types that no how to skirt laws, act like American women, etc.
Her friends had/have her convinced that "Any man can complete" her papers. This fueled her attitude. Most recently, she decided that she would go to INS an ask for a different type of visa. While this is officially possible, it is a bad idea. It also could land her in a position to found guilty of Marriage Fraud. The penalty, if found guilty, is deportation to home country AND ineligibilty for another visa to the US, of any type, for the rest her life.
Having spoken with INS officials, they believe this is a good description of my case.
But, my wife (for the moment) has moved into the house of some friends she made, venezuelans, and changed her cellphone number, effectively disappearing.
I guess one other thing I would do differently - I would require her to learn English BEFORE she got to the US. Much culture is in a language, and she would do better, and not be restricted to the latin sub-culture in the States.
Plus, non-willingness to learn English also says that she isn't interested in communicating with YOU.
My solution? I found work down there in Colombia, and the first time a woman starts talking about going to the US, I will show her to the door, re-list my girlfriend ad, and get another. But I'm not bitter ;-)
Sorry this is so long. I hope there is some value or warning signs in it for the rest of the mongers here.
Piece Out,
PW
[QUOTE=Elversele]I HATE to have to be the one to tell you this, but do you think the American Owner would care? He already pocketed your money. Do you think for one minute he will feel sorry for you and refund your money?
Come on man, you seem like a nice enough guy who just got taken.If there is one thing I don`t believe in is SINGLE`S TOURS.
And NO I doubt it is customary in ANY place for a woman to invite herself to sleep over. Think on how many times she must have done it. Better luck next time, and remember " When things get tough, the tough get going" Cheers, Elversle.[/QUOTE]Hey, I wasn't saying he would care. I just wanted to no what I did wrong, or how I should have proceeded. But, I have also been thinking, that with all the crazy stuff she did, she really isn't mentally healthy. Starting fights apparently to see who could win, or now, taking off to live somewhere, with no legal status (her 485 hasn't been approved, and probably won't) when all she had to do was shut up and get along.
All in all, I probably got out pretty cheap. Stay tuned for the witty quote -
"A good marriage can last a life time, and a bad marriage will seem like one"
Peace Out,
PW
[QUOTE=Shanidar] Starting fights apparently to see who could win,
PW[/QUOTE]Not to unknown in Latin societies. She wanted to be the boss. You show her her limits. Thats where you went wrong.
I am glad it ends well for you. PW. I am sure an ad in the paper will help you more as any mariage agency in the world. Make your own selections and be very critical.
To me marital agencies are a big NO NO !! show some initiative, be a man and chase your own pussies. dont let them gather around a "marriage manager" who is only tricking the desperate man and woman.
I believe this was your fundamental mistake. What is the "quality" available concerned woman running into such an agency ? Not much I think.
You got yourself a "possesive" ****. From day 1 she wanted to assure herself you would not have time neither eye for another pussy. That is (to me at least) the obvious reason why she invited herself into your bedroom (with our without sex, doesn't matter). From that moment indeed you should have had your red flag out !! she was already making up her mind without even thinking if this was OK for you.
To Elversele :
You are European (I know :-) ) Schengen country have a very man-friendly system to bring over a pussy. (it is although different for each Schengen country, yes indeed strange enough). I know how it works for my country. Let her come on a temporary visa for 3 months. When she fits into your house, your system, your culture, after she landed back in Colombia, she can go get another visa for long stay. And you can get her back in your place. ok 2 tickets to pay, no big deal.
1. it is way more cheap this way. (you went to colombia for 3 months) OMG !!!
2. For your pussy it is also beneficial. She can try to adapt, if it does not work out, she can return to Colombia, sorry for you, sorry for the pussy. At least she had a chance to find out. Meanwhile she has to take the initiative. When she works in Colombia, she will have to decide to quit the job, the family, everything she is used to. ;-) you feel the "tension" and seriousness of the decission she has to make ?
3. When after a couple of weeks, she "flips" over, put her on the airplane back to Bogotà. Case closed.
PW,
Open a new case, like you will be doing now. I wish you the best of luck and a better experience. I'm sure there is plenty of choice in S.A. for every bacherlor gringo.
[QUOTE=Cream on Top]I am glad it ends well for you. PW. I am sure an ad in the paper will help you more as any mariage agency in the world. Make your own selections and be very critical.
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.[/QUOTE]Ok, first, changed my handle.
2nd, in my defense, I got out of the Middle East and was cooling my heels in the States. A friend came by, who was on the way to Colombia. I figured, hey, why not get another visa stamp and drink some beer, and good off. Plus, I had limited days in the US, if I wanted to preserve my tax free status. I had a bundle in the bank, (from working the desert) and said WTF?
The owner of the agency tried to browbeat me into introductions, but no go. His secretary took over with a little more success.
You are correct, I was not allowed any solo time, for the remainder of my stay, she was clearly defending her ticket out. When I returned for the long stay, she immediately moved in with me, not my idea. Whatever.
I had her packed up to leave one day, but damn the luck, didn't get her into the cab.
As far as taking someone to the US and it doesn't work out, a private citizen can't force anyone to get on a plane. In Texas, if someone's stuff is in your house, that is their residence, and you need to file an eviction to get them out.
It is not as easy as "Just send her home". You have to be dealing with an adult, and someone who has respect for the laws of the US. My whole problem was her lack of respect for anyone but herself. Aha, herein lies the problem.
Don't worry, I will be critical as hell, picho and send them home.
More reports as I find them. Next stop will be some titty bars in Bogota, open to suggestions. Non touristy are better, because I'm officially not allowed by my job, to go to these type places. I will be doing some mongering in Medellin for this reason...
Peace Out,
[QUOTE=Rzagza]Does anyone know the Santa Fe area of Bogota?
Can someone help me out please?[/QUOTE]
Huh? Bogotá was originally called Santa Fe de Bogotá, Colonial Spanish style. As a reaction to that the "Santa Fe de" part got dropped, but I think it may have recently had a revival.
Be that as it may you may rest assured that Santa Fe de Bogotá is the same city we know and love as Bogotá.
(Hmmm... Or is it Bogotá D.F. now? If in doubt, change the name? That'll confuse the guerrillas! :) )
[QUOTE=AddictedToWomen]Huh? Bogotá was originally called Santa Fe de Bogotá, Colonial Spanish style. As a reaction to that the "Santa Fe de" part got dropped, but I think it may have recently had a revival.
Be that as it may you may rest assured that Santa Fe de Bogotá is the same city we know and love as Bogotá.
(Hmmm... Or is it Bogotá D.F. now? If in doubt, change the name? That'll confuse the guerrillas! :) )[/QUOTE]
They made some changes a couple of years back, when they reformed the constitution and NOW it is called Santa Fe de Bogota. Distrito Capital. (dc)
DF is in mexico city ( Distrito Federal). Anyway most people just say BOGOTA, and we all know where it is :) Peter.
[QUOTE=Rzagza]Does anyone know the Santa Fe area of Bogota?
Can someone help me out please?[/QUOTE]
The Santa Fe zone in Bogota contains a kind of seedy red light district.
An easy jumping off point is the Transmilenio station, cra 14 and cll 22. At this Transmilenio stop, as you get off you should see La Piscina and El Castillo one on either side of you. They are quite big establishments and at night are lit up in neon.
There are lots of places in the neighbourhood. Strip clubs, short time motels, streetwalkers, small apartment setups with girls standing out the front. Certain parts of the area are TV but mostly it's regular girls.
The Santa Fe area is located in downtown Bogota. You can just tell your cab driver to take you to "Barrio Santa Fe" or to La Piscina. La Piscina is the best of the area, plenty of hot girls for 60,000 COP full service. El Castillo is next door and is huge, but rarely has many girls. A couple streets back you'll find Las Paisas, which has some good lookers but not an abundance. Girls can be had for about 30,000 COP for full service. La Casona is next door, and prices run the same. One I liked, but it was kind of a dive, was Venus Show Bar, on the same street. On the weekends, they pick a guy out of the audience, and a girl will give him oral sex on stage and possibly full sex, as a sort of a show. Its raunchy but interesting to say the least. You can take a girl upstairs for 30,000 COP, full service. Not high quality girls, but there are some cute ones. Keep in mind, in Santa Fe, the girls tend to walk from place to place looking for business, so you'll see familiar faces. There are also many streetwalkers hanging out of open doors in the area. Now, this is regarded as one of the most dangerous areas of Bogota. You should know spanish if you want to walk around there. I made friends with many of the security guards and bartenders because I tipped them a bit. I'm 25, well built, half Colombian, but I look like a gringo/Marine. I did stand out, and I also did not dress down. In the last two months in my two trips to Bogota, I was in Santa Fe at least 20 nights without a problem. Take that as luck though, not the norm. Just keep your head up if you decide to go there. If you are the type to get nervous when alone in foreign areas, avoid this section, as you will be surrounded by many groups of guys with their buddies that are heavily intoxicated and could cause trouble.
Shanidar,
You said you found work in Colombia, how so? I am desperately trying to move down there, as I love the place and have family there. I am trying to get work through my aunt at the embassy, but any other advice would be helpful.
Hi guys,
I'm travelling to Bogota. Do you guys have any hotel recomendations?
Thanks,
Kane
I stayed at the Hotel Suites Real 85, located on Cra. 18 Calle 84-56. In the 3 weeks I was there recently, I brought a guest (female) home with me each night and they didn't charge extra or anything. They also are located in a good area near La Zona Rosa and they call reliable taxis for you. Clean hotel with a rate of about 90,000 COP per night.
Hey guys,
It will be the first time for me. I learned most of my lessons in Costa Rica and Cuba, with a few trips to Brazil. I got of easy in the USA, as I've never been married...I'm 40 with plenty of energy, though I'll be coming in from Cali, so who knows what kind of condition I'll be in when I arrive in Bogota. I speak intermediate Spanish, so let me know if anyone will be around for some fun over Thanksgiving weekend.
Any new info, or advise on a nice, but not too expensive, place to stay would be appreciated.
TD
Not the best area, I grant you, but the HUGE ZonaSur (which I have not visited) is reputedly MUCH worse. That being said, Santa Fe (really the old part) is NOT for the solo sex tourist on a cruise.
[QUOTE=Wubayou]I stayed at the Hotel Suites Real 85, located on Cra. 18 Calle 84-56. In the 3 weeks I was there recently, I brought a guest (female) home with me each night and they didn't charge extra or anything. They also are located in a good area near La Zona Rosa and they call reliable taxis for you. Clean hotel with a rate of about 90,000 COP per night.[/QUOTE]
I will be in Bogota for about ten days starting Dec 10th before I hit BAQ-CTA-MDE-CLO in that order.
Do you have any telephone or their email?
For any other sugestions pls PM me. They will be most welcome since that will be my first visit to Colombia
Thanks
El Greco
[QUOTE=El Greco]I will be in Bogota for about ten days starting Dec 10th before I hit BAQ-CTA-MDE-CLO in that order.
Do you have any telephone or their email?
For any other sugestions pls PM me. They will be most welcome since that will be my first visit to Colombia
Thanks
El Greco[/QUOTE]
[url]www.suitesreal.com[/url] - choose the Suites Real 85 location - highly recommend it - perfect place to start your 1st trip to Colombia - safe, secure, great helpful staff, chica-friendly, walking distance to everything, incl. Zona Rosa (for a higher concentration of English-speakers, restaurants, bars, discos. etc.). Call to make reservations. 0-11-57-1-218-0100
I'd advise you to have them reserve Jose (taxi driver) for your trips. He's very reliable, knowledgeable, and honest, but speaks no English. Also, he works from 7 am to 6 pm., never later.
I also highly recommend SR85, its perfect!
[QUOTE=SandRabbit]I also highly recommend SR85, its perfect![/QUOTE]
Thank you very much guys !!!
Any other recommendation?
Any privados or chicas that they passed a test drive
succesfully, good restaurants and night spots?
Thanks again anyway,
El Greco
El Greco, you gotta go eat at Palmetto de Bermudas in Zona Rosa, its in the yellow pages! I had their biz-card but gave it to a fellow hobbyist that's going down next month. Have fun, Bogota is one of my favorite places, of course, I have super sweet amiga that takes care of me when i'm in town.
Hello fellow mongers
I am a resident in Bogotá, and i recently found this great forum you have here. I am specially interested in getting the phone numbres of Jacky and Jimena, if anyone still have them, as you have posted previously.
Some freinds and I have been doing similar efforts to establish a database of the escort service in Bogota, and we have gather a nice group of experiences and data that may be helpful to all of you. One of the websites was mentioned here befeore , [url]http://cataresco.********.com[/url], which was the first. I would be happy to help you with the translation of any article, or giving you tips or recommendation of girls i have had the pleasure of being with.
There is a second website, which is relatively new, but has good info too: [url]http://www.foroswebgratis.com/foro-foro_escorts-27544.htm[/url]. We are sitill expanding it. Also, if you need translation of it, just let me know.
The motel situation in Bogota has improved greatly, there are many in and around the city, with very nice acomodations and services. I have also information on them too, if needed. They are much less expensive than hotels, there are many in very safe zones of the city, and some are even better than some hotels too.
Hope I can help. Good luck
Going to Bogota/P-rico/Costa Rica next week. Any upto dat info would be welcome
Steve
[QUOTE=Hoof Hunter][url]www.suitesreal.com[/url] - choose the Suites Real 85 location - highly recommend it - perfect place to start your 1st trip to Colombia - safe, secure, great helpful staff, chica-friendly, walking distance to everything, incl. Zona Rosa (for a higher concentration of English-speakers, restaurants, bars, discos. etc.). Call to make reservations. 0-11-57-1-218-0100
I'd advise you to have them reserve Jose (taxi driver) for your trips. He's very reliable, knowledgeable, and honest, but speaks no English. Also, he works from 7 am to 6 pm., never later.[/QUOTE]
I missed the last Avianca flight out of BOG to MDE this past Friday, so I took a cab to the Suites Real 85. Didn't even bother with a reservation. I was remembered by the night desk clerk (stayed there two weeks prior for a night) and was checked in quickly. It's cheap, clean and in a great location.
And chica friendly - no fee, no registration. Also, the minibar is dirt cheap - like 1,400P for an old-fashioned bottle of Coke.
Bill for one night, including minibat and all taxes was 109,000P.
Also, a couple of free internet stations in their "business center" - available 24 hours a day.
The next morning I used Jose to take me to the airport. 10 minutes into the drive his cell phone rings - it's the hotel calling to say I had forgoten a package in my room. We turned around, I go the package and still made my flight. Great personal service - will be using them again next week.
[QUOTE=Ric Rod03]Hello fellow mongers
The motel situation in Bogota has improved greatly, there are many in and around the city, with very nice acomodations and services. I have also information on them too, if needed. They are much less expensive than hotels, there are many in very safe zones of the city, and some are even better than some hotels too.
Hope I can help. Good luck[/QUOTE]
Ric,
Interested in your experiences of the motels.
Hello guys,
I am heading down to Bogota the week of the 28th.
Probably wont have the ability to get around much so am interested in a good escort service that will send a girl to my room. Does anyone have any experience with these services?
I guess I just really want to know if I can expect the girl in the photo. And are the prices quoted accurate and do they include full service or is there upsell going on?
[url]http://www.amapolas.net/[/url]
[url]http://www.sexymodelscolombia.com/ingles/index.htm[/url]
[url]http://www.estratoseis.com/modelos.htm[/url] (bogota?)
[url]http://www.escortsclass.com/bogota.htm[/url]
[url]http://www.lafeemme.com/bogota.htm[/url]
[url]http://www.latinlifedreams.com/mujeres.html[/url]
Thanks guys
Can anyone tell me if the Sheraton hotel Bogota is chica friendly?.
steve
Have been back to Bogota after three years. This time alone (not with mi ex Bogota grown up wife). First I found it pretty boring (like rich kids in Zona Rosa etc.). But then I found this street full of bars accros the road from the movie theatres on Avenida Primero de Mayo. Great place. Xtremely easy to pick up non-pros. A true haven for the spanish-speaking monger looking out for non-pros.
Hi Guys,
I will be in Bogota at the end of the Month on my way to Argentina. I have six hours to kill in Bogota before I fly to Argentina. Can anyone suggest a cheap Hotel/Motel very close to the airport so I can get some rest and maybe some action.
[QUOTE=Kool 99]Hi Guys,
I will be in Bogota at the end of the Month on my way to Argentina. I have six hours to kill in Bogota before I fly to Argentina. Can anyone suggest a cheap Hotel/Motel very close to the airport so I can get some rest and maybe some action.[/QUOTE]
There are a whole bunch of motels within spitting distance of the airport, any taxi driver will take you there but you might want to make it worth his while: these guys wait for *hours* for a fare to go downtown not just up the road and the government hasn't increased the tarif to keep pace with the price of gas. I'm currently tipping any taxi driver who's honest about the fare and, for preference, doesn't try and kill me with his driving, at least 1000 (50c) -- or 2000 ($1) on longer trips. They really do appreciate it, and the expression of shock alone is worth it!
Also the motels are, of course, usually used by couples and on certain days/times there may be a queue for rooms. If you want company, likely as you're posting here(!), pick up a copy of El Tiempo at the airport and check out the agencies.
If you want a real hotel just for yourself rather than a motel the closest is probably halfway between the airport and the center on Avenida El Dorado, so its easy to get to/from. I forget the name, but its a major brand (Forte?) in a modern complex on the south side. You can't miss it.
Hey Mr Sam
As you may or may have not seen in their galleries, most of the photos, do not correspond to the girls they send you, so it´s pretty much how much luck you have. The rates are pretty much average within the Bogota Scort services. The best agency of the ones you mentioned it´s sexymodels, to say is the least dishonest, but their prices are a little high.
My recomendation, as i have tried many agencies, is [url]www.complice.tk[/url]. All their pictures are real (trst me!), and the service is pretty good. All the girls are 130.000 pesos (60 dollars more or less).
Hope it helps.
[QUOTE=Mr Sam]Hello guys,
I am heading down to Bogota the week of the 28th.
Probably wont have the ability to get around much so am interested in a good escort service that will send a girl to my room. Does anyone have any experience with these services?
I guess I just really want to know if I can expect the girl in the photo. And are the prices quoted accurate and do they include full service or is there upsell going on?
[url]http://www.amapolas.net/[/url]
[url]http://www.sexymodelscolombia.com/ingles/index.htm[/url]
[url]http://www.estratoseis.com/modelos.htm[/url] (bogota?)
[url]http://www.escortsclass.com/bogota.htm[/url]
[url]http://www.lafeemme.com/bogota.htm[/url]
[url]http://www.latinlifedreams.com/mujeres.html[/url]
Thanks guys[/QUOTE]
For safety:
Exit and turn right. Find the booth for buying voucher for a official taxi. Forget the pirates out side the door.
Belmont
[QUOTE=Mr Sam]Hello guys,
I am heading down to Bogota the week of the 28th.
Probably wont have the ability to get around much so am interested in a good escort service that will send a girl to my room. Does anyone have any experience with these services?
I guess I just really want to know if I can expect the girl in the photo. And are the prices quoted accurate and do they include full service or is there upsell going on?
[url]http://www.amapolas.net/[/url]
[url]http://www.sexymodelscolombia.com/ingles/index.htm[/url]
[url]http://www.estratoseis.com/modelos.htm[/url] (bogota?)
[url]http://www.escortsclass.com/bogota.htm[/url]
[url]http://www.lafeemme.com/bogota.htm[/url]
[url]http://www.latinlifedreams.com/mujeres.html[/url]
Thanks guys[/QUOTE]For what its worth, IMHO the only site that the majority of the photos do not look totally fake is Sexy Models.
[QUOTE=AddictedToWomen]There are a whole bunch of motels within spitting distance of the airport, any taxi driver will take you there but you might want to make it worth his while: these guys wait for *hours* for a fare to go downtown not just up the road and the government hasn't increased the tarif to keep pace with the price of gas. I'm currently tipping any taxi driver who's honest about the fare and, for preference, doesn't try and kill me with his driving, at least 1000 (50c) -- or 2000 ($1) on longer trips. They really do appreciate it, and the expression of shock alone is worth it!
Also the motels are, of course, usually used by couples and on certain days/times there may be a queue for rooms. If you want company, likely as you're posting here(!), pick up a copy of El Tiempo at the airport and check out the agencies.
If you want a real hotel just for yourself rather than a motel the closest is probably halfway between the airport and the center on Avenida El Dorado, so its easy to get to/from. I forget the name, but its a major brand (Forte?) in a modern complex on the south side. You can't miss it.[/QUOTE]Hey thanks for the info.
However, can you make a recomendation of maybe one or two. My Spanish is not very good and I kind of have a problem with telling a Taxi I want to go to a Motel but I don't know which one. Also I am hoping to have my "Girlfriend: meet me at the airport so the hotel must be chica friendly.
Thanks again.
[QUOTE=Belmont]For safety:
Exit and turn right. Find the booth for buying voucher for a official taxi. Forget the pirates out side the door.
Belmont[/QUOTE]
You can do one better: turn right *before* you exit! There's an interior passage way so so don't have to machete your way through the waiting crowds.
The most famous are in the Alamos sector, near the airport, such as coconito ([url]www.coconito.com[/url]), el dorado, campoamor. These are in constant renovations and offering new and interesting servicies. Coconito would be my advice for you, it´s very inexpensive, they charge by hours (commonly motels charge by "ratos" or 8-hour packages). The rooms are comfortable and any taxi would take you there.
Another options are the motels located in the outskirts. Two very good ones are Altos de la Calera ([url]www.hostalaltosdelacalera.com[/url]) and Babilonia Suites. The rooms are unbelivable and have extras like the "love chair" (similar to a gynecologist cahir) or sex swings. Those would be good options oo if you are in town for more than a few hours. A little more expensive (80.000 pesos - 36 US dollars- single room, more or less) and have options of rooms with saunas or jacuzzi.
Finally, the economic option would be in the Chapinero sector, where are a lot of motels, all within a walking distance. Very clean rooms in well presented buildings, here you can find the lowest rates for good quality acommodations (30.000 pesos -13 dollars- for the single rooms, and 60.000 pesos - 26 dollars- for rooms with saunas or jacuzzi). To this ones , it´s better to arrive in taxi, nonetheless the security is good, the motel owners are organized and keep the sector clean. My recommendations in this case would be The Royal Garden (that´s its original name, it´s not translated) and El Portal.
These are the motels i have experienced and that i can recommend. Altogh, there are many others. Any other question, don´t hesitate to pm me or post it. Good luck
[QUOTE=AddictedToWomen]Ric,
Interested in your experiences of the motels.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ric Rod03]Hey Mr Sam
As you may or may have not seen in their galleries, most of the photos, do not correspond to the girls they send you, so it´s pretty much how much luck you have. The rates are pretty much average within the Bogota Scort services. The best agency of the ones you mentioned it´s sexymodels, to say is the least dishonest, but their prices are a little high.
My recomendation, as i have tried many agencies, is [url]www.complice.tk[/url]. All their pictures are real (trst me!), and the service is pretty good. All the girls are 130.000 pesos (60 dollars more or less).
Hope it helps.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the feedback. The link you provided doesn't seem to want to work in my browser. Not sure why, will keep trying.
Regards
sam
I doubt that there is any hotel in Colombia that will give you any problem when you check in with your girlfriend.
[QUOTE=Tom 33]I doubt that there is any hotel in Colombia that will give you any problem when you check in with your girlfriend.[/QUOTE]
I am somewhat amused when somebody uses the term "chica friendly" too. What is actually meant by that? Like Tom33, I can not imagine a hotel or especially a motel in Colombia turning you away because you have a girl with you... lol
Or does "chica friendly" mean they won't charge you extra for 2 just the cost of the room?
[QUOTE=Rufus]I am somewhat amused when somebody uses the term "chica friendly" too. What is actually meant by that? Like Tom33, I can not imagine a hotel or especially a motel in Colombia turning you away because you have a girl with you... lol
Or does "chica friendly" mean they won't charge you extra for 2 just the cost of the room?[/QUOTE]
Based on my experience chica friendly refers to not being charged to have an overnight guest in your room as you stated in your post.
[QUOTE=Rufus]I am somewhat amused when somebody uses the term "chica friendly" too. What is actually meant by that? Like Tom33, I can not imagine a hotel or especially a motel in Colombia turning you away because you have a girl with you... lol
Or does "chica friendly" mean they won't charge you extra for 2 just the cost of the room?[/QUOTE]
Chica friendly is normally about whether the hotel will let you book in by yourself, then bring a series of prostitutes to the room (one per day or sometimes more).
This will not be an issue for Kool. If you have the girl with you at check in time and stick with that same girl, it's always OK.
Hey Ric thanks alot. This is very useful info. I appreciate all you guys for taking the time to reply. As far as the "chica friendly" issue is concerned...for me it means weather I will have to pay additional for the girl to come to my room. My "girlfriend is a "pro".I met her some time back at Cassanova and she speaks no english and I very little Spanish but the "Body Chemistry" is amazing.At the end of the day...she gets paid.
I must admit that I feel a bit guilty because I have been a lurker on this board for quite some time now and have never posted a report. Partly because some of the other reports are much more informative than what I have so I get cold feet. However, I promise to change that very soon.
Hermes, I have been to that area and I love it. There is also Restrepo further east which is similar. HOWEVER please be advised that many of those non-pros may actually be pros just working in a very low-key fashion. Then again, they may be not, it can get really hard to know the difference.
Both along 1 de mayo and around Restrepo there are lots of hotels that go for 20-22k per 12 hour block during the week, 50% more on weekends. The first time I went to BOG I was actually staying there full time. Many of the buildings are brand new or recently renovated and actually GORGEOUS! The only drag is that the hot water is more warm than hot sometimes. The hotels are built for locals and the Rolos dont really care much about hot water.
[QUOTE=Bango Cheito]Hermes, I have been to that area and I love it. There is also Restrepo further east which is similar. HOWEVER please be advised that many of those non-pros may actually be pros just working in a very low-key fashion. Then again, they may be not, it can get really hard to know the difference.
Both along 1 de mayo and around Restrepo there are lots of hotels that go for 20-22k per 12 hour block during the week, 50% more on weekends. The first time I went to BOG I was actually staying there full time. Many of the buildings are brand new or recently renovated and actually GORGEOUS! The only drag is that the hot water is more warm than hot sometimes. The hotels are built for locals and the Rolos dont really care much about hot water.[/QUOTE]You may be right about the semi pros. I only went once with a non-pro girl I was absolutely hot for. And we had 2 bottles of wine before arriving. So my judgment might have been blurred.
But th girls who looked me up where there with male and female friends all in their age bracket. Maybe it differs form bar to bar and my girlfriend for the weekend chose the bars.
[QUOTE=Ric Rod03]Another options are the motels located in the outskirts. Two very good ones are Altos de la Calera ([url]www.hostalaltosdelacalera.com[/url]) and Babilonia Suites. [/QUOTE]
Ric -- Where's the Babilonia Suites? The other's up in La Calera and getting there by taxi is a p.i.t.a. in my experience. And getting back, worse!
[QUOTE=AddictedToWomen]Ric -- Where's the Babilonia Suites? The other's up in La Calera and getting there by taxi is a p.i.t.a. in my experience. And getting back, worse![/QUOTE]BABILONIA SUITES
Cr 7 188-57
COLOMBIA - Distrito Capital, Bogotá
Telefonos: (57)(1)6747340
It´s easy to get there by bus or taxi. Enjoy
I will be in Bogota from this Saturday onwards for the next 10 days.
Totally newbie for Bogota but with great and long mongering experience in other parts of this world.
If someone wants to meet for a beer pls pm me.
El Greco
Hello guys,
My trip has been postponed a few times. But I am finally heading down next week.
I think I am staying in the Andino Royal hotel. Any comments on this hotel? Chica friendly? Is it near any thing interesting from a mongering point of view? Any Bars close by that I might get lucky in? Any massage places?
Thanks for any insight.
Can someone give updates info on Abejitas and relax massage in Zona Rosa?
Thanks
Anyone know the address (or directions) for the Lancaster Club in Bogota?
Thanks
[QUOTE=SX Lover]Can someone give updates info on Abejitas and relax massage in Zona Rosa?
Thanks[/QUOTE]You can check their website, it has just been updated, offering some new promotions, the girls are dressed in santa claus outfits no modays, wendsdays and fridays. Also you can pick two girls for your massage, and participate for a 50% discount in your next service. ALso they give away some extras (clothing, scented candles, special lights etc). MAssages are about 30.000 pesos (1 dollar = 2200 pesos aprox. to this date), with BJ 80000 and full service aroun 130.000 pesos. You can ask for a "presentacion" (presentation), and the girls introduce themselves, one by one, to you, so you can pick. DAniela or MAfe are good options, but there are so many to pick ... Good luck. (the address and phone numbers are in [url]www.abejita.com[/url])
Ric,
Thanks for your info. Up to what time they are open in evening and do they provide BBBJ. Last time I was there they only offered CBJ.
Also can you suggest good escort service.
Thanks
Are bj's covered or not?How long are the sessions?
Anytime of the day better than another?
Thanks!
Forget it, there all old and ugly, well last time I was there 4 months ago anyway, try Cassanova´s or in Santa Fee area
El Castillo or La Pisina
The Aussie.
[QUOTE=Frgethenam]Anyone know the address (or directions) for the Lancaster Club in Bogota?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Frgethenam]Anyone know the address (or directions) for the Lancaster Club in Bogota?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
It´s not great there but...
The address is:
Calle 90 No.14-57.
Take care
Thanks Latin Trav & Aussie Greg,
I know someone that went to Lancaster's about 1 month ago and mentioned that it was pretty good. But I will check out Cassanova. Do taxi drivers know these places by name or is it better to have the address ?
Also AG, did you feel safe going to La Pisina or El Castillo ? I have heard that it is not wise for a gringo (which I am) to be there solo late at night.
Thanks guys for all the info.
Mostly, they are open until 7 or 8 p.m. It would be best to confirm via phone previously. About the BBBJ, it depends on the girl you choose. I was lucky to find one that performed BBBJ on me without asking (she even made it better applying "arequipe" -kind of a condensed milk dessert- on my cock, it was awesome!). Her name is Linda, but she told me she was going to be on vacation since Dic. 16, I don't know when she will be back.
For escort service i always recommend Complice ([url]http://pwp.etb.net.co/derumbaenbogota/index.html[/url]), it's the only one I've seen that has real pictures, and the service is very good.
Also i have some independent girls, that are very good. If you need more information or if you are coming to Bogota, just PM me and i can guide you, help you with translations, or at least give you some pointers.
Bye
[QUOTE=SX Lover]Ric,
Thanks for your info. Up to what time they are open in evening and do they provide BBBJ. Last time I was there they only offered CBJ.
Also can you suggest good escort service.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
BJ´s are covered in the full service. Sessions last about 45 to 60 minutes, but it also depends on how much time you take to finish. The girls don´t bug you so much about the time, they are very sweet and kind.
Any day is good, from monday to friday, IMHO the best time to go is some time before noon.
[QUOTE=Mangera]Are bj's covered or not?How long are the sessions?
Anytime of the day better than another?
Thanks![/QUOTE]
Abado massage parlor (Carrera 15 No. 116-59 Apartment 203)
Mentioned here before, I thought I'd give it a try.
Up the stairs to your left. 203 is clearly marked and they also use the local opposite though you get a lot of street noise there.
Not as run-down as suggested, but certainly budget. But at 30k for massage+ and 50k for "relation completo" it will do.
First outing was with Nathalie -- friendly, but didn't seem to like giving BJ. But seemed to enjoy DATY and offered "relation completo" even though I'd only paid the 30k, for which I tipped her an extra 10k even though I was disappointed in her oral skills. Might try her again.
Next time round was with Alejandra for the full works. Big fake moaner, wouldn't allow me to finger or lick her. Lame fuck so in the end I got her to finish me orally, which also stopped the stupid moaning. Turned out to be rather good with her mouth and tongue. Overall though, disappointing attitude, seemed in a rush to get it over with. Give her a miss.
First off. Thanks to the many folks who have posted so many informative posts in the past year; it was very helpful to me on my first trip to Colombia. Thanks and best wishes to you in the New Year.
I was in Bogotá for a couple of days before going to Cartagena earlier this month. I tried out a couple of the massage parlors, stopped by Bar Zhivago and did a brief tour of Barrio Santa Fe. All these spots have been covered in recent posts, these are just my impressions. As I said, this was my first visit to Colombia. I'm from the US, an obvious gringo, I speak a little Spanish. I've made a few trips to the Dominican Republic in the past two years, one trip to Venezuela last year. Still pretty new to the hobby, I make mistakes even when I've read posts here warning me of this and that. So, that's a little bit of my deal and these are some of my impressions.
Abejita's massage (Carrera 14 No. 83-23; not very obvious). I walked up stairs and was quickly moved into a room by an attractive girl who quoted (I thought) 300k for a nude massage + 40k more for a blow job + 40k more of something else + 40k more for the deed. I was crushed, since I'd seen posts here for 150k for what sounded like the complete deal and I was thinking no amount of wheeling and dealing was going to get me down anywhere near that price. I walked out. I was thinking maybe she shot high because I'm such an obvious gringo or maybe it was because it was a Sunday afternoon. Stupid.
Right now, I think it was just a disconnect between my limited Spanish and her seeing a chance at a big payoff. She asked for 30k. I thought she asked for 300k. She thought I might take the bait at 300k. Anyway, even as pretty as she was, I was hoping for a little more choice ahead of the negotiations.
Cachaca Lover has a great post somewhere on the Colombia forum on the importance of learning Spanish. I'm pretty new to it.
I knew I could fall back to Abado (see AddictedToWomen's post below). The girls there are not up to the same standard as the chica at Abejita's, but like Addicted puts it you can get two chicas on the cheap. I was feeling pretty good for nailing two for 1/3 of what I thought the opening price was at Abejita's. Frankly, the thin walls and the customers coming and going just adds to the atmosphere. It's not something I've experienced before and was feeling pretty happy about opting out of Abejita's after finishing up. Stupid and happy.
Later, I stopped by Bar Zhivago. I think it's a pretty expensive venue. The exit fee for me was 80k. The most attractive chicas started asking for 200k. Although some chicas will slip you their phone numbers in order to work around the bar fine. My impression is it's pretty easy to figure out the hotel the girls are staying at. If you were spending time in Bogota it would not be hard to work around the Zhivago bar fine. I was pretty struck by the chicas working at Bar Zhivago (also known as Juan Pablo Karaoke; Carrera 18 No. 93a - 83) there were around 30 girls working there and I had some problem trying to figure out which of the top five I wanted the most.
Obviously, the girls who are not the most attractive (although not unattractive) try to work a deal before you've got a chance to figure out you've landed in a place very unlike anything in the United States.
I got an outstanding BBBJ from a tight little girl - Julie - she's short with very little body fat. 19 years. Great chest. Long black hair, but she said she was going to dye it red/blonde soon. She's from Honda. I think she's got attention deficit disorder, but once she knows you're going to take her she seems to focus and gets pretty enthusiastic. I did her and her cousin, one at a time, paid the bar fine at Bar Zhivago both times.
I did swing by the Santa Fe District (with such venues as La Piscina, El Castillo, Venus Show Bar). I did this during the day and in a cab. It's a place a really want to check out at night - but I'm so clearly a gringo and my Spanish is borderline and this was my first visit. I really wanted to get the LDV in Cartagena before dying, so I decided to pass on it this time around. This is the big disadvantage for me in Bogota - I'm never going to blend into the scene.
On the other hand, I was sort of amazed at the attention I got from women in the Zona Rosa, just sitting sipping a drink at a cafe. You know, you're just sitting there and a couple of women strike up a conversation with you and, shortly, you've got a phone number. Just like the good old days.
Jelly Donut de la Tierra de Mujeres Gordas
Anyone have any idea where I can check to get the best airfare from Bogota to Mexico, speciifically to Puerto Vallarta in February. I only know of Mexicana and they want $900.+ for a roundtrip ticket which includes tax. Any information you can provide me will be greatly appreciated!
the following are just random and general thoughts and opinions of my exp. in bogota. again, just my opinion. i was ihn town from the 20th of december till the 24th, then flew to cucuta to visit a little honey ( non-pro)that i met a few months ago in cartagena. then back to bogota for the 27th and 28th.
even though there is much military presence, it still felt a bit unsafe. i am hispanic, and i somewhat blended in, but not totally. i stayed two blocks away from zona rosa at the suites real 85, which is an excellent location. just a block away is the huge carulla supermarket, which has a good deli with all of the essentials, including a buffet style salad bar for there or to go. fresh food and clean place. half a block away, before getting to the supermarket, plenty of atm machines to choose from, along with a security guard next to the atm's. in the opposite direction, about 3 blocks away is a gym that has the basics, nothing spectacular, but it does the job.
zona rosa is a great place to meet people, especially non pros, as well as parque 93 which is about 5 to 6 block walk from carulla supermarket whch is located at car15 85(right on the corner). plenty of bars and rest. cafes to chose from. clean and safe area, for the most part. sometimes you will run into your occasional drunk bafoon harrasing you for money.
there are a couple of mongering places within this area. one which everyone must avoid like the plague, is one called cedro, located right of car. 82nd, and 15. there are a few guys around zona rosa with cards of the place, trying to escort you in there. red alert, stay away. i walked in on my own after getting some info. from one of the street guys with the bus. cards of the establishment. it is set up as a bar with individual rooms that include couches and a mattress on the floor. there is a line up of girls that come and intro. themselves one by one. nothing to write home about, but then again i am a picky mother**** when it comes to ladies looks. there was only one doable, she was not gorgeous, but she had a naughty, f***** me look. since i was in the mood for that, i told the guy in charge, i wanted to chat with her, and also asked hime, what the deal with this place, how does it work and what do you charge?
it works like this, you neg. with the girl for service. then neg. room with the guy in charge. at first, he wanted to charge me 20,000 pesos for a freaken beer, i don;t even drink beer, only hard drinks, and those are more expensive. i neg. the beer down to 12,000 pesos which i gave to the girl i chose, her name is diva ( real name-andrea ). ^ft tall, slanted eyes, and wears glasses, extremely sexy, but what a shark. we neg. 90,000 pesos ( she first started with 180,000) for an hour and a half( i responded with a chuckle), i neg. room for 40,000 pesos, after the head guy first asked for 80,000, he lowered to 40,000. i walk in the room, girl comes in, she goes to the bathroom. some witch walks in and offered a condom for 2,000 pesos, and 3 for 10,000 pesos(that is no error my friends), 1 for 2,000, and 3 for 10,000? i just started laughing out loud, told the skank to scram. i closed the door and locked it.
the girl comes out, demands i pay up front, i said no, she starts bitching and i say, look, pay half now, then other half after (this turned out to be a wise choice), she agrees. we talk for a few minutes, she is comfortable and relaxed, so was i, we start to undress, she said earlier she would dance for me, she was acting as thought she was shy, after telling me she had been working there for 2 yrs ( shy? yeah right). she starts covered bj, for about 5 to 10 minutes, it was ok. then when i start banging her , about 5 minutes into it, he tells me she is tired, give me a break, i was pumping her hard, but this gall is full of crap. then she starts complaining it too hot. i just said, screw this and screw you. i got dressed, walked out, the head guy alonf with some other working gall were in shock to see me walkout of the room somewhat angry. i told the guy, that from the moment i walked in, it was a survival mission to not get ripped off, and that his girl diva was a lazy dud. i told him i would spread the word to others about this dump( and i am). i usually do not have these experiences, but i was curious about the place. as i was walking down the treet, the same guy who gave me the cedro card has the balls to ask me for a tip(for telling me about this place), i began to laugh, and told him i spent all 5oo,ooo pesos at cedro, and had nothing left in my pocket.
on a positive note, i was at albejitas mass. parlor ( check previous posts by others about exact location). i wakied in my first time at 5pm, met a gal called cynthia, what a goodlooking spinner. 130,000 for covered bj, and banging in different positions, and a very good massage. was in there for about 1:15 minutes. good service, good looking gal. only thing that i did not like, they did not have a shower in the room( means that you might leave a bit more slick (oil) than you first walked in). she told me, they are open at 8am till 10 pm.
was also there for a second time, and it was with roxana, good looking gal from bogota, ok ass, but nice boobies and good attitude. she continued to complenting my body, and yanked the condom off, and gave me uncovered by. believe me, the compliment did not bring a smile to my face, it was her lips wraped around my uncovered soldier. then banging in different positions. 130,000 for the deal. she was cool.
as for other areas, i walked by extasis on the way to parquen 93 one night, wanted to charge 20,000 just to walk in, not including a drink, so i just kept walking. on my last day in bogota, i tried out this place in a residential neighborhood, a taxi driver i met a couple of days earlier told me about it, so i said what the hell, gave it a try. basically, you walk into this house, a group of girls walk out and say there name, you choose and go to a room with a sofa bed, it costs 70,000 for an hour, 50,000 for 40 minutes. girls were young and cute, not bad service. i don't think the plavce has a name, cause it was a house, not a bus. or bar. it was about 10 blocks away from the hotel. but i am sure there are many more placesd like this in bogota. good taxi drivers know.
i did not go to the sante fe area. can't comment on it. but from what i have been told, you really have to watch out, especially if you are gringo. i heard this from a couple of colombians i spoke to at the hotel. i did go to the movies at atlantico mall with a non pro, very nice place to take a date. shopping for good deals at unicentro, touristic musta for newbies, the cathedral made out of salt, museo de oro, botero paintings close by. candelaria neighborhood, quinta de bolivar, and a few others. as for a place called "andres carne de res", it is highly recommended, great food, people, and music, but drinks are pricey. everyone in bogota knows about this place, and how to get there.
as for my stay in the city of cucuta, it is the most boring place i have been to in my life, thank god i was there to meet a girl i met a while back, great times with her at hotel bolivar, in my room and by the pool. trust, don't waste your time in this place, even if you know a gal from there. just pay for her plane ticket, and have her meet you anywhere on earth, except cucuta. its also very hot and sticky. i also did not feel secure in this city. hope my info. helps someone in the future. overall my trip was good, but not great. then again, i have been to many cities through many countries this year alone, and they were a blast, including cartagena in colombia.
bogota does not interest me enough for a return trip anytime soon, unless i need to make a stop there on the way to somewhere else. i think i will give medellin or cali a try next time i go to colombia. most of the babes i have met from colombia are from one of those two places( almost always seems that way). thanks for letting me contribute to this forum, and a happy new year to all.
Will be in bogota two weeks. Is anyone familiar to the brothel scene there ? I dont' like escorts and prefer to have an upscale place where to hang out with my clients. So what are the best in town ? Any advice would be really appreciated.
Thx guys
French, you may like Zhivago / Juan Pablo's (see listings just below for the address).
It's a couple of nice big rooms with a bar and lots of lounges. Not top mongering value, but good place to pass the time with your colleagues and perhaps some female company onsite.
Hi Guys,
I will stay soon for some time at the Radisson Hotel in Bogota.
Does anyone have an idea if there is some action in the area around the hotel (streetwalkers, Bars, Massage, ...).
I do not want to go too far by night via Taxi.
What are zour favourite recommendations.
Otherwise some escort service will also do.
Thanks
We stumbled into an unmarked place next to Excalibur last night (K15 with 85?), which the tout claimed was La Piscina -- have they another one now?
Nice enough place, but the lass that caught my eye wanted 250k and only dropped to 200k. After adding in the hotel, that was going to be 5+ pops up at the cheapy join on 116 so I, most reluctantly, said no thanks. Odd: it was late, the place was full of girls and, it being a Thursday early in January, bereft of punters, a real buy two get a third free night.
But no dice. Own up: who's been driving the price up?
That La Piscina you went to was new. When I was in Bogota in November I was told a new Piscina would be added near La Zona Rosa. The reason for the price being high is the location, all those bars in that area are expensive and overpriced. Cheap prices can be found near the Santa Fe district. Also, the girls tend to go from place to place each night, meaning you can see the same girls at the downtown bars that were in Santa Fe earlier in the night.
There was a holdup by the mayor of Chapinero on the construction of Piscina II, a problem with the permits. Evidently it is owned by an Italian and he did not grease enough hands. I found this in a google search of LaPiscina Bogota it was an article in El Diario. Is there a pool there?/ lol. I am going top Bogota this spring and the place sounds wide open I will go to the old one in Caracas avenida, with someone from here hopefully.
[QUOTE=Wubayou]That La Piscina you went to was new. When I was in Bogota in November I was told a new Piscina would be added near La Zona Rosa. The reason for the price being high is the location, all those bars in that area are expensive and overpriced. Cheap prices can be found near the Santa Fe district. Also, the girls tend to go from place to place each night, meaning you can see the same girls at the downtown bars that were in Santa Fe earlier in the night.[/QUOTE]
Thanks Wubayou. Not sure I fancy going down to Santa Fe: sounds far too dangerous, but who knows.
Trickbaby -- A very small piscina, yes. More like a fountain pool without the fountain. Worth passing by just to see a nice looking longue. But the pussy's overpriced :(
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69]
GFE/Non Pro?:
Malls: Atlantis Mall, Carrera 15 & Calle 85
Bogota Beer Company
Gotica, Calle 14 # 82-50
Mr. Barbilla, Calle 82, # 12-15
Cityscape or Metropolis[/QUOTE]
WT --
Mr B's is rubble.
Cityscape, ex-Charlottes, appears to have been bought out by their neighbour. The last two times I was there it was as lively as Mr B's is now.
There's at least two BBCs -- one in the ZR, another on Av 19, a few block north of Cl 116. Next to the one in the ZR is Palos be Mugeur (sp?) which had some good talent the other night: some looked like it might have been pro though. Also too many gringos :)
Gotica also looked dead, no pun intended (they had a shooting there a while back. 6 (?) persons killed)
I am new in the forum but am glad about this web site. I am going for 2 weeks want to check the girls but don't like to go by myself. Anyone interested?
I am originally from there so I move well locally, and language not a problem. Let me know.
Thank you
[QUOTE=Maltin3202]I am new in the forum but am glad about this web site. I am going for 2 weeks want to check the girls but don't like to go by myself. Anyone interested?
I am originally from there so I move well locally, and language not a problem. Let me know.
Thank you[/QUOTE]I could go with you, and check some places.
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69]
Lancaster, Calle 90 #14-57
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Gonna be soon in Bogota. I will stay in an aparthotel in the Chico area (Viaggio El Virrey, on 86th), close to Lancaster, which has been reported as an after hours place. But is it a disco or a club, at what time the chicas start heading over there, any fee to take out ??
Also I heard that Gotica was THE non-pro after-hours in town. Any semi-pros/occasionnals in this place ?
Thanks.
Pro
[QUOTE=Prosal]
I heard that Gotica was THE non-pro after-hours in town. Any semi-pros/occasionnals in this place ?
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see below: Gotica also looked dead, no pun intended (they had a shooting there a while back. 6 (?) persons killed)
ATW
Thanks. I missed this part of your post.
Pro
Hi, there are plenty of interesting things to visit in Bogota. If you need a guide I can show you around the city. I speak fluent english and french, and also a little german.
Please send me a private message if you are interested.
Juan
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I don't know Juan, but I have a professional driver friend (I'll lay out the insight I have individually, not publicly). He's a terrific, savvy, docile guy who happens to be licensed to carry a firearm.
PM if interested.
FT
Checked out 2 massage places. Abejitas (Terapias Manualas) Carrera 14 #83-23. There were 8-10 chicas working. All beauties. I took Jenny. Paid 30,000 for massage and 80,000 for the BJ and she talked me into another 20,000 to let me play with her tits. I think the cost was too high.
Next day I went to Estrato 6, Calle 83 #14-26. There are 5-6 chicas working. All nice. I took the one that greeted me. I paid 30,000 for the massage and 40,000 for the BJ. She also let me rub the hell out of her pussy.
Out
[QUOTE=BayBoy]... Paid 30,000 for massage and 80,000 for the BJ and she talked me into another 20,000 to let me play with her tits. I think the cost was too high. [/QUOTE]
Prices seem to be on the rise, no pun intended. :(
In mid Jan I went to Bogota. Stayed at Hamilton court at zona rosa. nice place.
during eveing and night there were many guys offering chicas. but I was skeptic to take these girls to hotel due to security issue.
At night I asked hotel receptionist and he was more than happy to offer a girl to me. I explained him my taste and he made phone call.
30 min later a 23 yo beautiful girl with nice racks was at my door. Her name was Angelica. she was really beautiful and body to die for. the deal was 200K for 1.30 h.
We tried to communicate but she didnt know english. so we went in action. she was very cooperative. she only gives CBJ, that was disappointment.
First round was little early so we relaxed a little.immediately after first round she wanted to raid room bar for that I said no to her. for next 10 min she played with me and made me recover.
Funny thing was she had only one condom, so she called reception and they delivered more condoms. in all we had three rounds.
I wish i took my camera with me show you all her pics. Hotel didnt charge me anything extra.
Fellows, I just got a daily quote of 150,000 pesos for Real Suite 85. Is that on the level or can you recommend a better place. I need immediate help, thanks.
[QUOTE=Your Dog]Fellows, I just got a daily quote of 150,000 pesos for Real Suite 85. Is that on the level or can you recommend a better place. I need immediate help, thanks.[/QUOTE]
take a look at these :
[url]http://www.yellowpages-caribbean.com/Countries/Colombia/result.cfm?country=CO&Category=Hotels%20and%20motels&getkey=&CompName=&GetCity=&GetDept=&Island[/url]
you will sure find apartments under 150.000 COP
i booked one and they quote me 125K cop a night in a neighborhood called Salitre.
Any aparta hotel in streets numbered above 100 to 200 are very secure and nice neighbourhood. (this is north of Bogota). and most have no hassle with guests.
They may have quoted you at COP115.000. I don't think they have any rooms priced as high as COP150.000. I've stayed in their "penthouse" for COP125.000. Call back and verify.
I know that the prices have been raised by COP10.000 at the beginning of this year, meaning the standard room is COP105.000 plus taxes, in total under COP120.000. Therefore, the low-cost value isn't what it used to be, but it still isn't too bad, considering its location.
I've been dealing with them over the past 2 years, without any pricing rip-off types of things. Many of the folks that I have recommended there have had similar results. They're an honest, on-the-level bunch, all-around.
[QUOTE=Your Dog]Fellows, I just got a daily quote of 150,000 pesos for Real Suite 85. Is that on the level or can you recommend a better place. I need immediate help, thanks.[/QUOTE]
I called back and the quote is 115,500 pesos. I think the first lady that I talked to had a problem pronouncing the numbers. So, I am booked for a week :-0)
Bogota Veterans, what are the top ten places to visit, location info. I will visit Atunes and albejita massage parlors for sure and which places can I take pictures? See you in Bogota.
I also stayed at Suites Real 85 for the 110.00 price back in December. Good staff, freindly, and helpful. Don't know how the weather is now in Bogota, but keep in mind the rooms do not have air conditioning. Back in December, it was nippy and cool.
200K for 90 minutes with an independent is way high, even for Zona Rosa. CBJ is a mjor bummer for me. Gotta charm them and convince them you are clean, but some are strict (Hate that). Also, you have to bargain man, this is Colombia.
I like Hamilton Court too but it is getting so popualr you have to reserve quite a bit in advance.
I just returned from my first trip to Colombia, where I traveled to Bogota, Cartagena, and Barranquilla. I must say that the trip was wonderful and I WILL return. I will start my trip report saying that I'm Asian and I speak Spanish fairly fluently.
I took the Delta flight into BOG and arrived around 930pm. Cleared customs and a lady that I met on the plane ride there offered to give me a ride my hotel (Suites Real 85). If I didn't get the ride, I did see the area after exiting the doors of the airport and to the right where I would get an official taxi with the pre-quoted price.
Suites Real 85 was a very nice place in a great location. I highly recommend the place, like many other people on the forum, for first-timers. The hotel is fairly secure. I got a single room for 105.000 COP + 10% tax per night. Price is same whether you use a credit card or cash. My room was on the fourth floor of five. The higher up the room, the "bigger" bed, but worse the water pressure (hot water pressure on the fourth floor was very weak). It seemed that the fourth floor has queen sized bed, 3rd floor had full sized bed, and the 2nd floor had two double beds. I didn't venture up to the fifth floor.
The same evening (Saturday), I walked (5-10min) to the area near Centro Comerical Andino for dinner (I felt very safe and there were plenty of people around). In that area is a Citibank (not updated in the citibank website), where I subsequently took money out the next morning. I went to a salsa club called "Latinos" for the evening. Walked back to Suites Real at 4am by myself without any issues.
The next morning (Sunday), I first went to CC Andino to get a SIM Card with ComCel (Sunday is the day of rest, so most stores are closed, except for the stores in the malls). The price of the SIM card was 20,000 COP + IVA); they wanted a copy of my passport and another form of ID (which I didn't have). I had to pay another 1000 COP for a photo to go with my application.
Later in the day, I went to Monserrate and walked around the Candelaria. That morning is when I met Jose, the unofficial driver of Suites Real 85. He is a good man who is "safe" and "trust-worthy," because you'll never know where the random taxi driver may take you. I do recommend him to drive you where you want to go, but later on I just figured out how to take the Transmillenio and those mini-buses.
I arranged for Jose to meet me the following day (Monday) around 245pm to go to the Barrio Santa Fe. I met some local guys who thought that area was "dangerous." So I decided to check it out during the day, and I had Jose drive me around the blocks about 3 times to give me the layout. I asked Jose about how the P4P works. Unfortunately, Jose is not very familiar with how it works and gave me very misleading information. I explain how I found it work.
Jose dropped me off in front of La Piscina (what turns out to the exit; or entrance for employees) ~315pm, and I rang the doorbell (because Jose said that is way to go in). The guy who opened the door looked at me funny and asked me what I wanted. I thought, "Maybe this is the ploy that is used to only let people in who knew the password or something." I told the man that I want to enter inside to the Piscina. He told me that it was closed and that open at 4pm. He said that I can go to the daytime version of Piscina which was just down the street.
Well, that is what I did. I went to the daytime Piscina, and there were maybe about 7 guys and an equal amount of girls there. I stayed for a drink. Bottled beer (Consten~a and Aquila) were 2000 COP each, canned beers is much more expensive (5000 COP for Club Colombia). After watching a strip-show for a little bit, I decided to leave and walk around Barrio Santa Fe, to check out the other places while it was still daylight.
I walked around and into a whole bunch of places... and unfortunately they were MOSTLY empty. The were ones that had a substantial amount of people (because I later found out that they were 'daytime' bars). Atunes and Venus Show Bar had plenty of people there. There is no cover for entering any of these places, but as you walk in, people will start hounding to buy drinks. I would tell them I wanted to walk around and if I stay, I'll certainly buy a drink.
Thinking back, I probably should have stayed at Atunes for a drink, since there were plenty of girls around. But I was set to have an experience at La Piscina. I eventually left and walked to La Pisicina (not the daytime one). Entered there around 445p and had a seat. There were about 10 girls there, which only about 7-9 guys there. I ordered a beer (2000 COP). The girls in any of the places will just sit there and talk to their friends until you wave them over.
Because it is obvious that I'm not Colombian, nor the typical tourist from the US, I attracted a lot of attention (actually anywhere I went in Bogota). Soon I waved a girl over. We had reasonable conversation, she said that she was 18 (she didn't look 18.. more like 23) and originally from Medellin (I think that it is a typical line the girls use; it seemed everyone was from Medellin). I would say that she was a 6 out of 10, which beautiful bluish eyes, fair skin and black hair. She didn't have the best body, but her face was beautiful. I offered her a drink and she gets a Red Bull (14000 COP), goddamn it. Well... eventually we started to talk about a session. She opened with 60.000 and 10.000 for the room for ~20 minutes. 60k was the price that has been listed on this website, but I still thought about it for a while. I said that since it is early, I'm offering 50k for the girl and 10k for the room. She quickly agreed (maybe I could have offered 40k?). We discussed the rules: she doesn't give BBBJ, and she wouldn't kiss on the lips.
We went upstairs (seemed like Tijuana, Mexico) except the rooms are directly upstairs (no need to exit outside first like in TJ). Prior to going uptairs, I paid the house 60k (50k for girl, 10k for room). I had thoughts that maybe I should be paying the girl directly in the room AFTER the session, but it is my first time in Piscina so I didn't know what was the norm... oh well.
The session was okay (really weak in comparison to Rio, unforutnately). The act was fairly mechanical, but she did get me off. CBJ and cowgirl. She did kiss me on the lips with some mild tongue action. Somewhat satified (considering I spent around 30 USD$), I walked around Barrio Santa Fe some more. It is now night time around 7pm.
I walked into La Paisa bar, and there was about 20-30 girls there with an equivalent number of men. I sat down and ordered a bottle of beer (2000 COP). I was eventually approached by this blond girl (older) from Medellin (of course) who asked if she could sit next to me. I said sure and she said if she can order a beer (I figured it was better than a Red Bull, because if she did, I would have kicked out). The girl's beer was 2000 COP as well (not jacked up because it was a chica's beer (like in TJ). She gave a good pitch, and she offered a session with her (20 min) for 20k + 5k for the room. Not realizing that this was a normal price for Paisas, I agreed... (I thought the norm in the area was 60k). The session was worse that the last one (I guess I'm spoiled by Rio), but then again it was about 11 USD to get off.
I asked the bouncers to get me a safe taxi (~9pm) and they did that, I got safely back to Suites Real 85 (8000 COP).
Unfortunately, I didn't have much other experience with other mongering places, because I made friend with locals and I subsequently would meet up with them every night for dinner and drinks, etc. During the day, I would do touristy things like Catedral de Sal in Zipaquira, Museo de Oro, Botero expocision, shopping in Unicentro/Andino. I reallyed wanted to visit Salon La Fortaleza, abejitas, or Angelicales, but I'll have to wait until my next trip.
I left for Cartagena on Thursday evening, and I'll post my experience in Cartagena in that section.
Overall, I had a great time in Bogota. Mostly because I made some great friends in Bogota who showed me around and introduced me to many of their friends and colleagues.
Other thoughts:
1) I was on guard at all times when I walked through Barrio Santa Fe, however, I never felt in danger. I think it is imporant that the first timers go at least while there is still daylight to get a feel of the layout. The area gets hopping after 8pm and later. I hear that it gets really wild after 11-12am, and the next time I'm there, I'll be sure to go later in the evening.
2) A safety tip that was given to me by a friend in Bogota. Always call for a taxi. Do NOT hail one off the street (although you'll probably be fine, but it isn't worth it). IF you HAVE TO hail one off the street, take out your cell phone and call your friend (or pretend to call a friend). Say in Spanish, "Hey Juan, I'm getting into a taxi now, the license plate is ABJ-334, when I get to my hotel, I'll give you a call to let you know that I'm safe, okay?"
I have noticed many people recommending various hotels. Do any of these have wireless internet access?
[QUOTE=Don Invest]I have noticed many people recommending various hotels. Do any of these have wireless internet access?[/QUOTE]At Suites Real 85, no connection was available in the room. I opened my laptop to see if there were any WiFi connections, and there was one that was not "locked" but the connection was too poor to surf the web.
They do have one computer that offers internet access (free), but I couldn't get gmail to work on it (using their version of IE). I think I was able to check my hotmail account though.
Good report thanks!
Any other Hotel info or apartment info for Bog?
Hi,
I am thinking about visiting Bogota for afew days,i would like to know,if the hotels in Bogota have a problem with bringing girls back to your room?,becouse when i was in Rio it was a big problem,is it the same in Bogota?
Also can anyone recommed any good cheap hotels nearby the airport,that would not have a problem with girls coming to your room.
I would be so greatful for any help.
Try Suites Real 85;check further down in the thread, it is discussed in more detail. I brought girls home every night without problem, although I did get the impression that the older ladies working the desk there didn't like my "practices" but, who cares?
[QUOTE=Wubayou]Try Suites Real 85;check further down in the thread, it is discussed in more detail. I brought girls home every night without problem, although I did get the impression that the older ladies working the desk there didn't like my "practices" but, who cares?[/QUOTE]
They're cool old ladies. I got the funny eye a couple of times (LOL!!!), but nothing to it. The security guys and Jose always have a chuckle over it. Pay them no mind. They'll all still help you out in the best way possible. And NEVER a guest fee.
In this manner, most of Colombia is not like the Rio hotels. There are other plenty of places besides Suites Real with the same policy.
[QUOTE=Hoof Hunter]They're cool old ladies. I got the funny eye a couple of times (LOL!!!), but nothing to it. The security guys and Jose always have a chuckle over it. Pay them no mind. They'll all still help you out in the best way possible. [/QUOTE]I absoutely agree. Those two old ladies (one of them wears way too much perfume) are so nice and endearing. They always had the best interest in mind for me. they always gave me tips about how to stay safe. gave me good directions etc. the whole staff was great and a big reason why I would stay there again and recommend it to others.
Jose the main security guy was very nice too.
Please note: that I didn't get a chance to bring any girls back, so I never had to face their wrath ;)
it has a great location. rooms are comfortable and similar in size and configuration as an embassy suites in the us . suite real 85 is five minutes to abejitas zona rosa (directions below). the hotel is girl friendly (they ring you up when she arrives and they check the girl's docs to insure safety). suites real 85 has an independent driver (jose?)who can to pick you up at the airport on your arrival upon request, and take you around during your visit (highly recommend it) although don't expect much info from him on girls except perhaps the location of places such as piscina. the hotel is walking distance to two shopping centers with movie theaters, and restaurants.
you will be close to the zona rosa where there is a pedestrian street with many bars and restaurants (very active on thrusday through saturdays).
directions to abejitas from suites real 85 (it's about an 8 minutes walk): as you come out of the hotel walk to the right towards the large avenue there you take a right. then you walk until you see the carulla supermarket on the right side of the road (about four minute walk - carulla is open 24 hours and it is a great place to stock your room's mini fridge). take a right onto the street just past the carulla immediately crossing the street then take the first street on the left. on this street you will walk to short blocks and take a right onto the second street; there walk less than a block. enter the open door and climb stairs. (there is a small sign at the window which i think reads "masajes or therapistas".
I'm looking for a girl in Bogota. Her name is Viviana.
She is from medellin, thin big breasts and brown hair could be a million look a likes but if anyone has seen her please reply. Probably working in a house or strip club.
Thanks,
The exec
Just a picture of the hotel if anyone is intrested.
[QUOTE=El Pato]Just a picture of the hotel if anyone is intrested.[/QUOTE]Are you sure, because I don't recognize that hotel?
[QUOTE=El Pato]Just a picture of the hotel if anyone is intrested.[/QUOTE]
That's not Suites Real 85. Here's a picture of the front of Suites Real 85.
[url]http://www.suitesreal.com/85/espanol.htm[/url]
Well it was my first trip, but it won't be my last.
[QUOTE=El Pato]Just a picture of the hotel if anyone is intrested.[/QUOTE]
Looks like that might be the Studio 85 from the photo. On K15 at a guess from the sidewalk.
Some of you fellas talk about bringing girls up to your hotels? Were they street walkers or casa girls you guys invited to your hotels later on?
There are tons of streetwalkers in the Santa Fe district near La Piscina. I personally would not take one home with me, as some can be dangerous. They are also weary of foreigners because they too don't want trouble. You are better off finding one in a club, you can get to know them a little first.
Here are a couple of pictures I took from my taxi.
I was a little nervous about taking them.
WT69
[QUOTE=Wubayou]There are tons of streetwalkers in the Santa Fe district near La Piscina. I personally would not take one home with me, as some can be dangerous. They are also weary of foreigners because they too don't want trouble. You are better off finding one in a club, you can get to know them a little first.[/QUOTE]
I don't do SWs (personal preference), but I can pass along what I know.
You can find SWs on Cra 15 north of Cll 85, around the area of the rip-off bars (Casanova, Xtasis, Copacabana) on 86 or 87. There's generally a few around during the time the bars are open at night, or in the little fast food joints on 15 around the corner.
Also, you can get lucky waiting until those bars are closed, and picking up the girls who are headed out. Just wait on the corner, as they can get in trouble by their club for picking up clients outside the establishment.
Otherwise, as mentioned, there's Barrio Sante Fe. Be on alert, both for your personal effects as well as the actal sex of the SW.
I would NOT recommend the SWs on Av. Caracas around the Chapinero aera, as those I've passed in my taxi appeared to be TVs. Be very careful down there.
[QUOTE=Your Dog]Some of you fellas talk about bringing girls up to your hotels? Were they street walkers or casa girls you guys invited to your hotels later on?[/QUOTE]
Last year I was visiting family friends in the North section and outside their win dow and this is a high class redidencial area there were TV SW. The addy of my friend place is not important since I assume noone here is the least bit interested in Girly boys. But they are in the Norte sector as well.
Interesting article:
[url]http://soho.terra.com.co/soho/articuloView.jsp?id=4045[/url]
Some of the highlights -- she charges 250,000/hour and sees mostly executives. Also actors, generals, etal. Three dates a day are about all she's good for. Her earnings range from 3,000,000 to 7,000,000 per month. She likes about half of her clients. The agencies in Bogota take 50% of a girls earnings.
Hi guys,
I am planning to go to Bogota next week.
Can someone update me with current price for short time i.e. 1-2 hours and all night.
Thanks
[QUOTE=SX Lover]Hi guys,
I am planning to go to Bogota next week.
Can someone update me with current price for short time i.e. 1-2 hours and all night.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
I was in the Santa Fe barrio of Bogota Friday. Girls (7´s and 8´s) were asking for $60,000 colon (less than $30) for 30 minutes.
-Helpmann :)
Hope that is Colombian pesos. At the current rate 60K is about US$24.
Based on my experience in the streets of Medellin, I'm guessing that the price will range from 15K on up.
[QUOTE=Helpmann]I was in the Santa Fe barrio of Bogota Friday. Girls (7´s and 8´s) were asking for $60,000 colon (less than $30) for 30 minutes.
-Helpmann :)[/QUOTE]
Assuming these were streetwalkers, I hope you laughed and kept walking. In Colombia, the national currency is the Colombian peso. Either a joke or a silly attempt at gringo pricing.
Streetwalkers, hotel entrance girl down there, maybe COP10.000-20.000, even though I wouldn't touch any of them, even if she looked like a bonafide 10. If they can't work in one of the many places down there, there's a problem somewhere (age, disease, attitude, dishonesty, something). Be warned.
I guessing those were La Piscina or El Castillo prices.
Your average foreigner should probably not be wandering around the rest of Barrio Sante Fe, it's pretty seedy.
[QUOTE=Cachorro]I guessing those were La Piscina or El Castillo prices.
Your average foreigner should probably not be wandering around the rest of Barrio Sante Fe, it's pretty seedy.[/QUOTE]
These girls were pretty hot and many of the guys in the club were wearing suits. I will post photos later (in Brazil.) I would not come if you cannot speak Spanish; however, if you can (and well) it is a gold mine!!
-Helpmann
[QUOTE=Helpmann]These girls were pretty hot and many of the guys in the club were wearing suits. I will post photos later (in Brazil.) I would not come if you cannot speak Spanish; however, if you can (and well) it is a gold mine!!
-Helpmann[/QUOTE]
The girls are hit or miss depending on the day you visit. I would advise you head over to Atunes or La Casona. They have the best bang for your buck as far as the girls are concern IMHO.
Just got into Bogota today and love it already. Much better scene than Cartagena. I visited "supermasajes" as I saw on a list of massage parlors. Cra. 11 No. 79-35. No markings on the entrance other than the address.
6 girls work there. 25,000 COP gets you a massage with a happy ending. 20,000 extra for BJ and 20,000 extra to touch the woman. I went with the basic 25k price and wasn´t disappointed. Their flyer says that 14 women work there, but staff told me only 6 did. Hours are noon to 8pm. Based on a sign encouraging the use of condoms, I expect they´re required for BJ. Doesn´t bother me. I prefer it that way.
I headed to La Piscina towards dusk and didn´t feel that it was a threatening environment. I would gladly return to sample the goods.
While on Av. Caracas I came across a series of touts passing out flyers for clubs. There are 3 on a single block: Av Caracas 66-09 (flyer says 5 servicios x 20.000. 18 - 23 años), Anonimas Bar -- Av Caracas 66-80 (flyer says 5 servicios x 15.000. orgipiñatas shows lesbian trios y mucho mas), Av Caracas 66-67 (lindas universitarias).
[QUOTE=Bartchamdo]I headed to La Piscina towards dusk and didn´t feel that it was a threatening environment. I would gladly return to sample the goods.[/QUOTE]I was at La Piscina last night. I was the guy (the only guy) dancing and grinding with one of the chicas (Daniella.)
-Helpmann :)
[QUOTE=Hoof Hunter]Assuming these were streetwalkers, I hope you laughed and kept walking. In Colombia, the national currency is the Colombian peso. Either a joke or a silly attempt at gringo pricing.
Streetwalkers, hotel entrance girl down there, maybe COP10.000-20.000, even though I wouldn't touch any of them, even if she looked like a bonafide 10. If they can't work in one of the many places down there, there's a problem somewhere (age, disease, attitude, dishonesty, something). Be warned.[/QUOTE]
For US$25.00. I was pleased.
-Helpmann :)
[b]Andrea
La Piscina de Dia (5/26/2006)
[IMG]http://i5.***********.com/albums/y162/helpmann/Andrea.jpg[/IMG][/b]
After seeing some museums yesterday I took a short walk (20 or 30 minutes) down Calle 22 to Conrrado Red Light District.
I went into Atones at around 5pm and saw maybe 7 women there. Had a few drinks and chatted with Angela from Cali. We couldn´t hear each other over the music and were forced to write our conversation out on paper. We agreed to a 20 min session for 50,000 pesos (45 for her, 5 for the room). I said 20 mins wasnt enough and she said 10 extra minutes would be no problem as a gift.
Turned out to be a crappy experience. She wasted some time trying to talk. We barely got to the sex when there was a knock on teh door. There was no way that was 20 minutes. She told me the time was up and i had only 5 mins more. Needless to say I was pissed that she lied.
Took off as soon as possible. And they kept trying to stall me by not giving me change for my drinks. I was pissed at the way the staff was trying to milk me for money. I´d think twice before going back. On the plus side, I noticed more was happening on my way out. More girls were there and a strip show was in progress.
I had a great time afterwards at Piscina and had a good session with Lola for 50,000. Lots of women, but not many shows going on.
Copa airlines changed around my return flight from Cartagena in August and now they are flying me to Bogota and giving me a hotel for the night then flying out the next day to Panama. I don't know which hotel I will be at yet, but I will be there from about 9 pm to about 10 am the next day. What kind of mongering options do i have?
[QUOTE=Wapo469]What kind of mongering options do i have?[/QUOTE]
Read the forum. There is tons of great info. All it takes is a little of your time and effort.
$Bill
[QUOTE=Dollar Bill]Read the forum. There is tons of great info. All it takes is a little of your time and effort.
$Bill[/QUOTE]Yes I know. Sorry just a little laziness on my part. I suppose it would help if I knew where I was staying as the airline has yet to let me know. But I have time. In all of Colombia I have only studied Cartagena, Cali and Medellin. So I didn't know if there was one major spot in Bogota. A ground zero for mongering so to speak. But once I know where I'm staying I can figure out where I can go.
[QUOTE=Wapo469]So I didn't know if there was one major spot in Bogota. A ground zero for mongering so to speak. But once I know where I'm staying I can figure out where I can go.[/QUOTE]I had the best time at La Piscina, in the Santa Fe red light district. A chica there told me that 10pm is about the best time, so that sounds like it fits with your schedule.
I also liked the massage parlors in Zona Rosa, but for some absurd reason they seem to all close around 8pm.
[QUOTE=Wapo469]Copa airlines changed around my return flight from Cartagena in August and now they are flying me to Bogota and giving me a hotel for the night then flying out the next day to Panama. I don't know which hotel I will be at yet, but I will be there from about 9 pm to about 10 am the next day. What kind of mongering options do i have?[/QUOTE]
Wapo,
Stay in Zona Rosa. It's close to all the action and there is a 24Hr Grocery store just in case you need anything (i.e, Beer, Condoms, Food). Parque 93 et al are just a 5 to 10 mins walk depending on how fast you walk.
LOL!
I am looking for someone to jump out with. It gets a little complicated. I am sure some here will judge me.. but I,m the one who will pay or not pay.
I have been married to a rolita for 14 years and the way to stop a girl from screwin is to marry them I found out.
I am going to be in Bogota near the airport y noroccidente esta semana. I need to skip out for a few short times and when I went to the casas in the day last time the girls were not to hot in the $20. casas. I dont have time to get a room and call a good accompanante so I am looking for a good casa in the day or an incall near calle 65 or the soccer stadium. I am pretty close to chapinero.
Any help is cool and if you are a gringo I could make up some story about seeing my friend for a bit and the treat is on me. During the day is the only time I could do a walkabout.
Get back rolomongers.
Abejitas is usually pretty good during the day and at mas o menos Calle 83/Cra 14 (in that vicinty) not that far from Chapinero. You been there?
[QUOTE=Trickbaby]I am looking for someone to jump out with. It gets a little complicated. I am sure some here will judge me.. but I,m the one who will pay or not pay.
I have been married to a rolita for 14 years and the way to stop a girl from screwin is to marry them I found out.
I am going to be in Bogota near the airport y noroccidente esta semana. I need to skip out for a few short times and when I went to the casas in the day last time the girls were not to hot in the $20. casas. I dont have time to get a room and call a good accompanante so I am looking for a good casa in the day or an incall near calle 65 or the soccer stadium. I am pretty close to chapinero.
Any help is cool and if you are a gringo I could make up some story about seeing my friend for a bit and the treat is on me. During the day is the only time I could do a walkabout.
Get back rolomongers.[/QUOTE]
No but what I hear its all good there, how much is the FS? Ya I could be there in a heartbeat. I always thought that it was in zona rosa which during the day from the crib is a haul up autopisto norte, the traffic and all but I am very close to chapinero.
[QUOTE=Cachaca Lover]Abejitas is usually pretty good during the day and at mas o menos Calle 83/Cra 14 (in that vicinty) not that far from Chapinero. You been there?[/QUOTE]
Can you guys give me scoop on Bogota's nightlife? I am looking for Buenos Aires/Montreal like nightlife with cool lounges/clubs, bottle service, and well dressed people. What are weeknights like?
I was not impressed with Medellin at all in that regard. Is Bogota have more cosmopolitan? Finally how does P4P in Bogota compared to Medellin (not in terms of $ but rather in terms of quality).
Any info is appreciated.
[QUOTE=Sean EZ]Can you guys give me scoop on Bogota's nightlife? I am looking for Buenos Aires/Montreal like nightlife with cool lounges/clubs, bottle service, and well dressed people. What are weeknights like?
I was not impressed with Medellin at all in that regard. Is Bogota have more cosmopolitan? Finally how does P4P in Bogota compared to Medellin (not in terms of $ but rather in terms of quality).
Any info is appreciated.[/QUOTE]Yes Bogota has a great nightlife whether you are looking for pro-action or non-pro or jst picking up MILFS. I would suggest the "ZONA ROSA" which is located in the north end of Bogota, there are restauraunts, hotel, nightclubs galore, if you speak decent spanish you are in like Flynn. It is safe in this area also. Dress warm for the night it gets cold as a witches tit in a brass bra.
Trickbaby
Chapinero to Zona Rosa is about 15 minutes if you get the right cab driver. Abejitas is on the edge of the Zona Rosa about 2 blocks off La T pedestrian walkway. Don’t recall the FS price – been about a years since I was there. Sorry.
[QUOTE=Trickbaby]No but what I hear its all good there, how much is the FS? Ya I could be there in a heartbeat. I always thought that it was in zona rosa which during the day from the crib is a haul up autopisto norte, the traffic and all but I am very close to chapinero.[/QUOTE]
In terms of cosmo-type lounges/bars, Medellin does not compare. Just check out Zona Rosa and Parque 93 in Bogota.
Zona Rosa discos usually have a younger crowd (18+). Parque 93 has a couple of those places too, but generally 20-30 somethings in the cosmo setting surrounding the park. Both places are way more sophisticated for partying than Parque Lleras or La 33, 70 in Medellin.
[QUOTE=Sean EZ]Can you guys give me scoop on Bogota's nightlife? I am looking for Buenos Aires/Montreal like nightlife with cool lounges/clubs, bottle service, and well dressed people. What are weeknights like?
I was not impressed with Medellin at all in that regard. Is Bogota have more cosmopolitan? Finally how does P4P in Bogota compared to Medellin (not in terms of $ but rather in terms of quality).
Any info is appreciated.[/QUOTE]
This is interesting,
[url]www.mujerescort.com[/url]
Supposedly these escorts in Bogota value working out in the gym, dieting, healthy eating, cosmetic surgery and make-up/hair styling. They have to display good etiquette and good manners, and don't apply unless you've got a education or you're a model. The prices are outrageous -- 330,000 for 90 minutes, 6 million for a weekend! The small breasted ones go for 230,000 for an hour and 4 million for the weekend. The women who work for the agency supposedly on average take home over 8 million a month.
They claim that all the photos on their web site are real. I'd be curious if that's really true. There's a Colombian blog dedicated to identifying escort services that post fake photos, which include most of the services, but I didn't notice this one being mentioned. That blog is [url]http://cataresco.********.com/[/url]
On the mujerescort site, you can see the escort profiles and photos by entering your Email address and they'll immediately send you a code -- you don't have to pay.
Thanks Hoof Hunter. That's good to hear. I personally prefer more upscale crowd that is somewhat used to seeing an occasional international business traveler, unlike Medellin where it's obvious what 2 gringos are looking for lol. There are direct flight to Bogota from US, might be worth a weekend trip. I also heard P4P is more expensive in Bogota but the quality is better, would you say this is this correct?
Trickbaby, I just noticed you replied also - thank you for the information as well.
[QUOTE=Sean EZ]Thanks Hoof Hunter. That's good to hear. I personally prefer more upscale crowd that is somewhat used to seeing an occasional international business traveler, unlike Medellin where it's obvious what 2 gringos are looking for lol. There are direct flight to Bogota from US, might be worth a weekend trip. I also heard P4P is more expensive in Bogota but the quality is better, would you say this is this correct?[/QUOTE]
Bogota is the main international hub for Colombia. Therefore, many more foreigners are seen in Bogota (the capital) than any other Colombian city. From Chapinero (students) to Zona Rosa and Parque 93 (embassy folks, business folks, military contractors, ex-pats, tourists, etc.). Gringos who are living or working Bogota are generally more successful with non-pros, as they have a bonafide reason for being there, and they will be there past one weekend or one month. Therefore, there can be a 2nd or 3rd date. Gringo sex tourists only stand out there when they open their mouths and....have nothing interesting to say...in Spanish or English. Colombian chicks aren't as stupid as some guys seem to think.
The upscale crowd don't need your money, nor do some need the hassle of miscommunication. Therefore, carry yourself like South Beach or Las Vegas. Feel free to try to impress with money. LOL!!!! They've seen many gringos before, as they are more worldly than the paisas. You want to impress them, have your conversation and dance (salsa, merengue, cumbia, reggaeton, electronica) game tight.
In my opinion and vast experience, P4P is much cheaper in Bogota than many of the other Colombian cities. Main reason, more options. Non-pro options are definitely possible, I can vouch to that as well.
Barefoot.... have you thought that maybe the wify has her fun agenda?
Just playing a bit the devil's advocate...
Latinbull
Hello Barefoot...
About my previous comment... I hope I didn´t offend you.
Sorry to hear that AA is (as usual) not so flexible with your preferred destinations.
Alternative destinations to visit:
-Dominican Republic
-Barranquilla
-Costa Rica
-Panama
-Venezuela
Cheers
LatinBull
Longtime lurker in Bogota for awhile, looking to get together-share info on the scene here, please PM me.
Medellin Bob and myself just had a great 2 night stay in Bogota (well Medellin Bob did, I drank 4 bottles of Caldas Rum the first night so didnt see the light of the next day, its a pitty to because I had a stripper to take out to dinner that I met at one of the places, she was just dancing and going from club to club) and great to see the many Paisa´s there working from Medellin.
Its a bit imbarresing when you walk into a place and all you hear is Robert, Robert, Robert y Aussie, Aussie, Aussie, I neally had to yell out hoy, hoy, hoy !!!!! aussie hoy, aussie hoy, aussie hoy !!!etc.
Our recomondatios are,
El Castillo, full of Paisas, no relation to Medellin Bob´s El Castillo in Medellin.
La Pissina, again full of Paisas.
The Mansion, a bit expencive but I fell in love, no relation to my Mansion in Medellin.
Cassanovors
And a after hours club that Medellin Bob when to but I was to sick.
Even ran into the Periera girls whoring them selves in Bogota now.
The Aussie
I will be in Bogota July 16th to 21st for work. I will have a number of colleagues with me so it will not be that easy to scout alone. I don't know the city or speak spanish so of there is anyone in town a the same time then maybe we could hunt together. IM me if interested.
W
I was briefly in Bogota a few weeks ago and I had an opportunity to check out the Santa Fe scene in Bogota a couple of times. Of the 3 clubs I visited "La Piscina de Dia," "El Castillo," and "La Piscina de Dia" I preferred "La Piscina de Dia." Pretty easy going atmosphere, drinks are cheaper, and the women are a bit more easy going. If I return, I would head to "La Piscina de Dia before 8pm, then walk over to "La Piscina." "El Castillo" has some very pretty women; however, they seemed a bit cold and the set-up of the club made it difficult to interact with the women there.
Cheers!
Helpmann :)
[b]La Piscina de Dia: Cr. 15[/b]
1. Good atmosphere
2. Porn playing on the "Big Screen"
3. More single women and less groups
4. Younger women
5. As day went on, less girls and more guys
6. #2 for "lookers"
7. Closes around 8pm (the women head over to La Piscina)
[b]La Piscina: Cr. 15 23-64[/b]
1. 25 yd pool
2. Drinks are overpriced
3. Good atmosphere (lighting, porn on the "Big Screen", pool)
4. In the day there are few girls and too many guys (this changes around 7pm)
5. Music is to loud
6. #3 for "lookers" (but improves as the day moves on)
[b]El Castillo: [url]www.elcastilloclub.com[/url][/b]
1. Too Dark
2. No Porn Playing on the "Big Screen"
3. Too many columns obstructing views
4. No guys and too many women
5. Good bag security (lockers w/ keys)
6. Girls appear to be in their own world
7. Many girl clics
8. #1 for "lookers" (it was dark though)
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=473554&postcount=1271[/url]
[QUOTE=Latino Fucker]I was in Bogota 1 1/2 years ago. Will be there in August. Have been to La Piscina and Castillo, but dont know exactly where is La piscina del dia. Where is it in relation to La Piscina?
P.S. My cousins love La piscina and La Paisas (which is aroung the block from Piscina, so shoud be on CRA. 16)[/QUOTE]
La Piscina de Dia is on the same street as La Piscina. If you're at La Piscina and you're walking toward El Castillo, you need only walk 1 block further down the road to reach La Piscina de Dia. La Piscina de Dia is on the opposite side of the street of La Piscina.
-Helpmann :)
Have any of you guys used this service before
[url]http://sexymodelscolombia.com/ingles/alejandra.htm[/url]
I was just wondering because the model in the photos is Selena Spice, so I didn't know if they were just using her photos or if she really does escort. Judging by the price I might assume it is really her. Tell me what you guys think.
I thought that Colombian chicas were a lot less. How much is LT if $200/hour?
So many people have posted about the hot non pros. Anyone find a cute non pro in a shopping mall who agreed to go out with them? Just curious as I am trying to decide if I should go to Bogota or the DR in the future.
Although I've never visited the fine nation of Colombia (I actually still haven't ever left the USA), I guess I'll interject and mention that on escort websites, people should always look at the native-language version to see if there is any instance of "gringo pricing". If one looks at the Spanish version of Alejandra's page, it says 400k COP, translating to a little under 160 USD as of today... not 200 USD -- a definite instance of them trying to shaft you on the exchange rate, or at best just not keeping their site updated. That's still really expensive, but Alejandra seems to be double the price of all the other chicas on the site. Most of the other girls on the site seem to be running around 170k COP or less (~70 USD or less as of today).
Not too bad, but heck, even that sounds a little expensive compared to some of the pick-her-up-in-chica-bar prices described earlier in the thread. But delivery is expected to cost more than pickup regardless of the good/service in question. When I'm in Colombia, hopefully soon, I'll be checking out the bars directly. Not only are the prices reportedly lower, it's a lot harder to get bait-and-switched or no-showed.
Hi John05 is it easy to pull a 9 out of a mall in DR?
Colombiananas might be more work.
Have you tried Haiti?
According to the publisher of Cataresco, photos on Sexy Models Colombia are fake. He says the majority of the photos were lifted from web sites for legitimate modeling agencies, Argentine escorts, etc.
Of the 20 responses to the original post, one said the monster that showed up at his door was nothing like Camila on the web site. There were 3 posts that I think were all done by the same person, based on the writing style. He used a different handle for each post. Also these were the only 3 posts in the thread in all caps. They claimed the women in the photos are real, and mentioned Estefania, Adreina, Emila and Paola in particular. There were a number of responses where posters saw something that made them believe the photos on the web site were fake.
I bet most of the photos are of women not working for the agency. Estefania may be real -- she was mentioned twice by the positive poster, and was by far the least attractive woman I saw glancing through the site.
See [url]http://cataresco.********.com/2005/05/sexy-models-colombia-bogot.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Tiny 12]According to the publisher of Cataresco, photos on Sexy Models Colombia are fake. He says the majority of the photos were lifted from web sites for legitimate modeling agencies, Argentine escorts, etc.
Of the 20 responses to the original post, one said the monster that showed up at his door was nothing like Camila on the web site. There were 3 posts that I think were all done by the same person, based on the writing style. He used a different handle for each post. Also these were the only 3 posts in the thread in all caps. They claimed the women in the photos are real, and mentioned Estefania, Adreina, Emila and Paola in particular. There were a number of responses where posters saw something that made them believe the photos on the web site were fake.
I bet most of the photos are of women not working for the agency. Estefania may be real -- she was mentioned twice by the positive poster, and was by far the least attractive woman I saw glancing through the site.
See [url]http://cataresco.********.com/2005/05/sexy-models-colombia-bogot.html[/url][/QUOTE]Thanks. My first reaction was that the photos were fakes. Just wanted everyone elses opinion. Now I know that 200 is way overpriced for colombia but the model in question is selena spice/aka andrea rincon. Who is kind of a famous internet model from colombia, which I would do just for the bragging rights.
[QUOTE=Giggity]Although I've never visited the fine nation of Colombia (I actually still haven't ever left the USA), I guess I'll interject and mention that on escort websites, people should always look at the native-language version to see if there is any instance of "gringo pricing". If one looks at the Spanish version of Alejandra's page, it says 400k COP, translating to a little under 160 USD as of today... not 200 USD -- a definite instance of them trying to shaft you on the exchange rate, or at best just not keeping their site updated. That's still really expensive, but Alejandra seems to be double the price of all the other chicas on the site. Most of the other girls on the site seem to be running around 170k COP or less (~70 USD or less as of today).
Not too bad, but heck, even that sounds a little expensive compared to some of the pick-her-up-in-chica-bar prices described earlier in the thread. But delivery is expected to cost more than pickup regardless of the good/service in question. When I'm in Colombia, hopefully soon, I'll be checking out the bars directly. Not only are the prices reportedly lower, it's a lot harder to get bait-and-switched or no-showed.[/QUOTE]
The COP's fallen a lot in the last few months. I'm sure they've got more interesting things to do than keep their site updated every time there's a change -- at least I would have, but that's rather like putting an alcoholic in charge of a brewery.
170k is still criminal. A few years back I used to get it for 100k. One lass did all night for 80k w/o agency, but she was kinda sweet.
Last time I was there one lass, very hot, but late at night on a quiet night asked for 200k and didn't reduce it when I declined. I can find a better way of spending 200k thanks.
[QUOTE=Sean EZ]Hi John05 is it easy to pull a 9 out of a mall in DR?
Colombiananas might be more work.
Have you tried Haiti?[/QUOTE]
You could not give me $1000 to go to Haiti. No. I was talking about an earlier post from a member who had said that there were 8s and 9s in some of the shopping malls but all of them were already with Colombian men. Another member had said that the non pros who were cute are a lot of work and time. Just wanted to get a reading from a member who had been to different places for non pros. I saw some agencies that have stunners but wonder if they are not really models who do not exist when you pay the fee and arrive in Colombia.
Anyone know about a good casa de masajes in-around the Chapinero area?
John,
in my opinion Colombianas are much more attractive because I prefer light skinned women. I thought girls in DR were really dark with very few exeptions, too dark for my taste. If you are OK with that I heard it's easy to score a cute girl in Haiti. Not sure about safety there though since I never considered going. In Colombia it's not hard to meet 8s 9s and 10s but YMMV (looks/age/spanish/attitide) and I doubt you can pull one out of the mall straight to your hotel [I am not talking about barrio girls here].
[QUOTE=Bo Gata]Anyone know about a good casa de masajes in-around the Chapinero area?[/QUOTE]
Hi Bo. Did you check the lists at [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=430770&postcount=5[/url]
I wonder if any of you guys go to La Piscina (downtown not Zona Rosa)in Bogota and whether you could tell me if a girl call Natalia (real name Leidy) still works there. She also has a sister, forgot name, who works there. If so please let me know.
Thanks
[QUOTE=AddictedToWomen]Hi Bo. Did you check the lists at [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=430770&postcount=5[/url][/QUOTE]Thanks, I'll check out Escort 69 and Venus.
I met a few Colombianas from Cyber Cupido and they seem very friendly on the first time. Since my Spanish is not fluent I must translate from the internet. They seem to be very loving, giving kisses quite freely. When the subject of sex comes up, all of them get into their defensive mode. I think that they are trained at an early age not to trust the men in their country. Evidently a lot of stories about the "dogs."
The girls I met all had college education and wanted a lengthy period to know me. Very old fashioned by our standards so maybe it depends on the family and class of the person you are talking to.
Hello,
If you want to experiment something really...special,then go downtown,carrera 13a at the corner with avenida 19 (or Avenida Ciudad de Lima) a real midget is working in the last "casa".Not a few in the world I think! Enjoy
Niouts
I will be arriving from Cartengena on the 29th around 8:30pm and my plane leaves for miami at 10:20am the 30th. Can anyone recommend where I can stay close to action and be sure to make my flight back? Since it is only one night I would like it to be close to the airport as possible. thanks to anyone there.
Well you are looking be close to the action this is my recomendation :
Hotel Charleston
Carrera 13, #85-46
Bogota,
Colombia
Phone: 571-2571-100
This will get you close to the action
abejitas.com
avispitas.com
masajesinorpi.com
niisha.com (outcall service and the pictures are real)
parque 93
This hotel is about 25min to 30 min from the airport with decent trafic allocate at least an hour in a regular day, staying in downtown in places like the Tquendama will kill your chances to browse around places like the Manchester. The Charleston is great and most of the staff speaks english, and they will direct you to safe cabs.
Be safe and enjoy.
[QUOTE=iamlookin]I will be arriving from Cartengena on the 29th around 8:30pm and my plane leaves for miami at 10:20am the 30th. Can anyone recommend where I can stay close to action and be sure to make my flight back? Since it is only one night I would like it to be close to the airport as possible. thanks to anyone there.[/QUOTE]
Closest hotal I know to the airport is Forte Travelodge Hotel Capital on El Dorado. Can't be more than 10 minutes from there, though I've never stayed.
Bit far from the action but if airport proximity is your main concern then go there and just grab a cab to where you fancy.
Only there for the night. I have gotten recommendations where to stay but I am unsure yet. What places can I hit that are open late? I want to be close to the airport .
thanks
Hi,
I was wondering if any of you have the exact address on Palacetes. And how it works. I read here that the price is between 40.000-60.000, but what does it include, how much time? And also, from what time to what time is it open?
Another question is, Casa Britania, is it on Calle 98, Carrera 13a (is there any sign or anything, or just a house, do you have the number of the house? any phone number, hours at which they are working?) , and how much could I expect to pay there for how much time? Also, how safe or dangerous is it around that area. I speak spanish fluently, how much would that affect my being there?
I will be arriving to bogota on wednesday and so all the information you can give me is very much appreciated.
Thanks a lot for your answers.
Lastas
PS: sorry for reposting this, but no one was giving an answer on the other one.
The Casa Britana was shown to me by Jose from Suites Real 85. Contact him and ask him to take you there. He should be able to help you find Palacetes.
Jose Alvana Tel: +57 310 480 3559. Great guide and airport pickup for Suites Real 85. Spanish speaking only.
When you find out, please post the addresses and phone number. Also if you find any of the other places that are on the List that are missing info let us know.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Lastas]Hi,
I was wondering if any of you have the exact address on Palacetes. And how it works. I read here that the price is between 40.000-60.000, but what does it include, how much time? And also, from what time to what time is it open?
Another question is, Casa Britania, is it on Calle 98, Carrera 13a (is there any sign or anything, or just a house, do you have the number of the house? any phone number, hours at which they are working?) , and how much could I expect to pay there for how much time? Also, how safe or dangerous is it around that area. I speak spanish fluently, how much would that affect my being there?
I will be arriving to bogota on wednesday and so all the information you can give me is very much appreciated.
Thanks a lot for your answers.
Lastas
PS: sorry for reposting this, but no one was giving an answer on the other one.[/QUOTE]
Hey WorldTravel 69,
Thanks for the info. I called Jose today and he told me Casa Britania no longer exists.
Thanks,
Lastas
dear friends
Planning a trip to Bogota soon
Any advice on whether Embassy Suites and Andino Royal are chica friendly?
Between the two, which is better, in terms of comfort, service and location?
thanks !
PP
Hello mate.
I havent been to Embassy Suites, but at the Andino Royal they will charge you additional everytime you bring a girl back to the hotel. Something like US$50.
The hotel is nice, clean, good rooms.
I normally stay at the Windsor House.
[url]http://www.ghl.com.co/hotel.php3?id=2[/url]
Good value, no hassles, chica friendly. Good food also.
Saludos.
LatinBull
Hey Fellow Mongers,
Since AA does not fly to Cartgena, I'll be taking a trip to Bogota using my miles. Anyway, I was wondering what the Bogota experts think of the non pro and getting laid for free action? Any good discos to recommend? I'll be doing the P4P scene too. But always find it's easy to get laid in Colombia.
Or is Medellin better for the non pro scene? As I've only been to Cartgena.
Thanks, and Happy Hunting
Octatron
Hit any bar in the Zona Norte on Thursday-Saturday night and you'll find LOTS of non pros for the picking. The most happening places are easy to discern because there will be a line of partygoers waiting outside on the sidewalk.
Actually, it is easier to chat them up OUTSIDE, too smoky and loud inside.
However, they are wealthier and more accustomed to gringos than the chicas out in provincial cities so it may take more work to taste the cuca.
Bummer AA stopped the BAQ flight a few years back but word is they are going to resume service to CTG. Given the exponential increase in gringos going to CTG, it makes sense.
Latinbull: Agreed Windsor is nice and only a FOOL would pay $50 guest charge (IMHO $20 is extortion).
If you are interested in knowing some interesting places in Bogota I can show you around. Just send me a PM.
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Can anybody update the street scene in Bogota? I have been through every thread here.
Thanks,
Joseph
i checked it out when i was there in the end of june. it was a saturday afternoon and it was a bit busy, i walked up the stairs and the receptionist was a knockout, however she said i had no choice and the girl was doled out to me like a us amp. they tried to hit me for 150k!!!! i told them no and i still pais 120k which was not to bad considering i was getting 2,5oo cop per us$.
the chica they sent in could not have been older thanb 21 the face was ok butthe body... utterly fantastic youg, with perky nips and cinnamon skin.
the massage was crap, as she sensed i was in a hurry.
the screw was one of the best i ever had she knew more tricks on 6 inches of dick than a monkey on a mile of grapevine, shebacked up omn that puppy and ground it shook it, it was all in all a good experience.
i was having a hard time bustin a nut because in the next room right at the top of the stairs it sounded like a porno movie with the fake yelps and moans of the chica and some fat spaniard who was really loud with his castilian, all that aside.
i made it back to the crib for lunch and noone noticed me gone. oh ya. next year when i go back i have to go solo in bogota for a few days, i found that speaking passable spanish, and being polite with the chicas goes a long way.
cybercafes were hoppin with chicas chattin it up to.
so if your looking to invest some time it may be a good place to chat up a chica if you can cut the the romance and innocent gaming goin on.
[b]Street Action[/b]
[b][I]Santa Fe [/I][/b][I](Can Be Dangerous, Be Careful!)[/I]
1. Casas All around the block, in almost every doorway. Carreras 16 and 17 and Calle 24. 60,000.
[I](See My photos.)]/I] [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=450463&postcount=530[/url]
2. Carerras 13A and 13, between Calle 22 and Avenida 19 and between Avenida Fernando Mazuera and Avenida Caracas. Watch out for the Tranies.
[b][I]Zona Rosa[/b][/I]
1. Carrera 15 between Calle 90-100 (mostly Between 97-99).
2. Carrera 15 north of Calle 85, in the area of the Bars Casanova and Copacabana on 86 or 87.
[QUOTE=Jusjoseph]Can anybody update the street scene in Bogota? I have been through every thread here.
Thanks,
Joseph[/QUOTE]
AA officially resumed the direct flights to BAQ from JFK a month ago, if that's where you're going from. A bit OT in the Bogota section I guess but I just thought I'd chime in :)
[QUOTE=Surfer]Hit any bar in the Zona Norte on Thursday-Saturday night and you'll find LOTS of non pros for the picking. The most happening places are easy to discern because there will be a line of partygoers waiting outside on the sidewalk.
Actually, it is easier to chat them up OUTSIDE, too smoky and loud inside.
However, they are wealthier and more accustomed to gringos than the chicas out in provincial cities so it may take more work to taste the cuca.
Bummer AA stopped the BAQ flight a few years back but word is they are going to resume service to CTG. Given the exponential increase in gringos going to CTG, it makes sense.
Latinbull: Agreed Windsor is nice and only a FOOL would pay $50 guest charge (IMHO $20 is extortion).[/QUOTE]
AA has no direct flight to BAQ ... Barranquilla ... from JFK or Miami.
Suerte.
To BOG yes.
You know I think I'm mistaken and it was Avianca. Sorry.
I have recently spent 2 days in Bogotá. I already knew the city: I've lived there for 2 years in the 80's and have made short travels on a regular basis.
(I beg your pardon for my english: as my nick clearly says, it is not my native language).
I stayed in Suite Real 85, thanks to ISG. Good value: 115 kCOP for a small but nice suite). Well located, as most of my meetings where in this area.
Had very little time to monger, so I decided again to follow ISG's advices.
1) Casa Britania does not exist anymore (unless it has moved): I have been walking around and nothing looks like a place with girls.
2) As I said, not much time, so I went directly, in the afternoon, to the "zona de tolerancia", more exactly to "La Piscina de Día". About 15 girls there, some good looking, but the place look too dark and the music too loud to make me comfortable.
3) While walking to La Piscina de Día, I had seen an impressive black SW just on the "esquina" of Carrera 16 and calle 23. So I decided to come back and see if she were still there. She was. When I approached and said "hello", she just smiled and said: "25000 pesos, and I pay the room". Could not believe it was so cheap! Of course I said yes, because of the price but also because she look even better from closer. So we went in the room after she paid a madam. A GFE indeed! Her face was nice but not great (maybe a 7.5). But an unbelievable body (I would give an 11): very black, very big natural tits, not a gram of fat. Very good sucking, very nice fuck. She was taking a lot of initiative, moving from a position to another. I do not really believe in my personal charm, but she almost convinced me she was enjoying the moment. She did not seem in a hurry, and we were beginnning a nice chat (as Asterix says, "my english is smaller than my uncle's garden, but my spanish is greater than my nephew's helmet"): I learnt she was Karen, 26 years old, and from Chocó, but it was shortened by the arrival of the "Policia de Menores", asking for both IDs (mine and hers): as I obviously did not want to handle my passport to somebody I could not even see, while being "en cueros", we had to dress in a hurry and get out the room. But a very nice girl indeed. I left her 5000 pesos as a tip (well deserved): total cost 30000 pesos, i.e. less than 10 euro. Still cannot believe it!
4) The morning after, I had even less time before my flight. Went bak to the same place, and picked a girl in another "casa". Not such a good choice. She was Sandra, from Cali, 25; nice face, nice body (however far from Karen), but she seemed to be boring.
As a whole, a very nice experience: I am waiting for my next trip to Colombia to try something else (among others: non pros). As most of you say, everything is possible in this country.
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I've been pussy whipped in the BEST way for the past while, ;)
I'm back in NYC now having flown in from BOG this morning, unforunately although I LOVE BOG this is not a positive report at all.
My gf and I wanted to go to ADN Swingers Club last night. We got there around 11:40pm and were totally cockblocked at the door. I can't for the life of me figure out why. The guy told us 'no new people tonight' which was BULLSHIT because we watched another couple get in right after us and they were inquiring about price structure and everything and he had to explain it to them.
Neither of us are bad looking or too young or too old, we called their number after getting back to my gf's place to try to find out wtf was up, the lady insisted that gringos were more than welcome at her place, it would have been really nice if they were straight with us. We spent the rest of the night roaming around looking for an authentic swinger club. Plenty of gay clubs, lesbian clubs, strip clubs, strip clubs with extras and just plain puteros. Couldn't find a single bona fide couple-oriented swinger place.
I know this is a tall order in any city on Earth in 2006, but does anybody know where the hell we went wrong? Do you have to really dress up or dress sexy to get in these places, what's the deal? Unless I can figure out wtf we did wrong (I've mongered and seduced in several countries and NEVER been face-controlled before) I'm gonna have to unfortunatley give the place a THUMBS DOWN even though it has good reviews on the local Bogota sex sites.
[url]http://www.adnswingbar.net/home.html[/url] for further info (in Spanish only unfortunately).
Either one of you of the darker variety?
[QUOTE=Bango Cheito]My gf and I wanted to go to ADN Swingers Club last night. We got there around 11:40pm and were totally cockblocked at the door. I can't for the life of me figure out why. The guy told us 'no new people tonight' which was BULLSHIT because we watched another couple get in right after us and they were inquiring about price structure and everything and he had to explain it to them.[url]http://www.adnswingbar.net/home.html[/url] for further info (in Spanish only unfortunately).[/QUOTE]
God I hope they're not racist too! I love black girls! :P And brown girls, and caramel girls etc.
I think it may have had something to do with the dress code actually. We were neat and clean but both wearing sneakers. But the sad thing is the guy didn't say 'you need to be better dressed to come in here' he just said 'members only night' which was obviously bullshit! :(
Here are three clubs locations worth to visit:
La Mansion Autopista Norte et Pepe Sierra (Calle 116)
Lancaster Calle 90 No14-57
Club Extasis Calle 86a No 14-57
If you meet in one of those clubs Louisa, a petite young blonde, please PM me. She is just back from Saint Maarten. She is a good girl.
Routard
Would you mind to tell me some 4/5 star Hotels in Bogotà which are GF too.
thanks a lot for your kindness and patience, any personal suggestion and advise will be highly appreciated
[QUOTE=Guide Bogota]If you are interested in knowing some interesting places in Bogota I can show you around. Just send me a PM.
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I'm going to Bogota in October.
Please pm me.
I appreciate your help, beer on me.
Thanks.
Big John 1
Gotta fly from UK to Colombia this time.
Anyone know any good (=cheap) routes from UK to Bog now there's no direct flights.
Rather avoid the US if I can. Any good routes via Europe or Central America?
A friend who comes often flys from Belfast to Newark, N.J., to BOG.
there is [url]http://www.airmadrid.com[/url] with convinent flighs
[QUOTE=AddictedToWomen]Gotta fly from UK to Colombia this time.
Anyone know any good (=cheap) routes from UK to Bog now there's no direct flights.
Rather avoid the US if I can. Any good routes via Europe or Central America?[/QUOTE]
My friend Karem is now in Bogata has anyone run into her?
LHR-MAD-BOG, 14 hours total on Iberia, says Expedia (a pretty good site for finding international flights that don't touch US soil). It's pretty much a straight shot, and not all that pricey.
Air France (via Paris) and Air Canada (via Toronto) will also do it for you, but it'll be longer and more expensive.
[QUOTE=AddictedToWomen]Gotta fly from UK to Colombia this time.
Anyone know any good (=cheap) routes from UK to Bog now there's no direct flights.
Rather avoid the US if I can. Any good routes via Europe or Central America?[/QUOTE]
Same route as below, but with AirMadrid from Spain.
Really cheap compared to Iberia.
Now, lets get back to the "nenas"
This girl was rica rica....
This is a hot and sexy duet...
Hi Scooby
I will be in Bogota.
Do you have the contact info for her?
I would like to get together with her.
Same duet.... SEX pictures..
This hot Latina came boozed to my room, so I did what any decent gentleman would have done in my situation... gave her more scotch!.
Needless to say, we had funky sex...
Amigos, honestly, this girl was so beautiful and sweet that I even hesitated....
Very very sweet, and good talent in bed...
You know... I am a lucky bastard!
Beakerh
Thats the point I lost Karem's cell phone number and I've been trying to find her she was awsome.
Nice fotos senor LatinBull!
Looks like you had a good time amigo!
Thanks for sharing the fotos.
Where or what service are these girls from? Very nice collection indeed!
Max
I cant remember, I just picked up the Newspaper, and called a couple of agencies.
Spanish is fundamental to the negotiations.
Sorry i could help you more.
Alf.
Anyone else hear about a group of US Marines out partying in the north (Parque 93 area) who got into a fight with some locals in a disco and apparently got their asses handed to them? Something that could have been avoided if they just walked away, but.... they didn't and left with broken bones, etc. Happened in the disco Kukaramakara.
This happened about a month ago (June-July-06). Confirmed by a local security guy.
Please kindly update reg. GF hotel in Bogotà (possibly 4-5 star) since I have to book urgently - arr. sept. 9 evening thanks a lot (frist trip to Colombia- any advise is welcome)
[QUOTE=oetziboy]Please kindly update reg. GF hotel in Bogotà (possibly 4-5 star) since I have to book urgently - arr. sept. 9 evening thanks a lot (frist trip to Colombia- any advise is welcome)[/QUOTE]
Hello mate.
Here is a link to my previous posting about hotels in Bogota.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=489772&postcount=598[/url]
Cheers
LatinBull
Your PM is not excepting messages.
Could you check the List and let me know anything about the places on the List?
Give me your name, phone numbers, etc. and I will add them to the list.
One question is, where is Palacetes (Chica Casa)?
[QUOTE=Guide Bogota]If you are interested in knowing some interesting places in Bogota I can show you around. Just send me a PM.
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[QUOTE=LatinBull]Hello mate.
Here is a link to my previous posting about hotels in Bogota.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=489772&postcount=598[/url]
Cheers
LatinBull[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the advise Latin Bull, I've contacted them but they did not responded that's why I requested some more informations.
I went on the website and they sat that if you have tennis shoes on you will not be admitted. I live in south florida so when I go to Bogota I have to change my dress style to be in Rome. Notice that noone there wears tennis shoes? unless they are actually engaged in a sport? I am comfortable in my Newbalance but the only time I wear them is when the family ghoes outside the city to tour or go to Quindio or one of the warmer places. They can be stuffed shirts those Rolos. I know I been married to one for 16 years..lol/
Looks like a ghood place I would not mind bringing my wife there getting her a little "ecstatic" and watch a girl get feely with her. I am too posessive to let a dude do my woman though :(
I know this is a tall order in any city on Earth in 2006, but does anybody know where the hell we went wrong? Do you have to really dress up or dress sexy to get in these places, what's the deal? Unless I can figure out wtf we did wrong (I've mongered and seduced in several countries and NEVER been face-controlled before) I'm gonna have to unfortunatley give the place a THUMBS DOWN even though it has good reviews on the local Bogota sex sites.
[url]http://www.adnswingbar.net/home.html[/url] for further info (in Spanish only unfortunately).[/QUOTE]
If I bring a hot broad into this place will the locals be ok with me hooking up with their girlfriends or is it all working girls type environment? sounds like a cool place to show all dressed up miami style and have fun though.
What's the whole deal with "couples night" in Bogota on Saturday nights? Was with a couple of buddies, just wanted to try out a couple of non-pro places on a Saturday, before hooking up with some chica friends of mine. We were well-dressed, LOL!!! Still got turned away, as it was...couples night. Had to be with a lady, and even then, there was a cover. The nerve of these motherfuckers!!!
Needless to say, later that night, we ended up in Santa Fe, hitting Las Paisas Bar, Casonas, then Fortaleza for the true *****s.
Re: tennis shoes. It's quite common to see tennis shoes during the day. At night, forget about wearing them if you're trying to get into any disco. You might get a gringo pass, but even that's risky.
@Sean EZ - Dress like you're in NYC at night. Dress like Miami in Bogota at night and you'll be freezing your ass off. LOL!!!
[QUOTE=Trickbaby]I went on the website and they sat that if you have tennis shoes on you will not be admitted. I live in south florida so when I go to Bogota I have to change my dress style to be in Rome. Notice that noone there wears tennis shoes? unless they are actually engaged in a sport? I am comfortable in my Newbalance but the only time I wear them is when the family ghoes outside the city to tour or go to Quindio or one of the warmer places. They can be stuffed shirts those Rolos. I know I been married to one for 16 years..lol/
Looks like a ghood place I would not mind bringing my wife there getting her a little "ecstatic" and watch a girl get feely with her. I am too posessive to let a dude do my woman though :(
I know this is a tall order in any city on Earth in 2006, but does anybody know where the hell we went wrong? Do you have to really dress up or dress sexy to get in these places, what's the deal? Unless I can figure out wtf we did wrong (I've mongered and seduced in several countries and NEVER been face-controlled before) I'm gonna have to unfortunatley give the place a THUMBS DOWN even though it has good reviews on the local Bogota sex sites.
[url]http://www.adnswingbar.net/home.html[/url] for further info (in Spanish only unfortunately).[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=oetziboy]Please kindly update reg. GF hotel in Bogotà (possibly 4-5 star) since I have to book urgently - arr. sept. 9 evening thanks a lot (frist trip to Colombia- any advise is welcome)[/QUOTE]Are there ANY 4-5 star hotels that are GF? When I am in Bogota I stay at the Hotel Del Parque Classico. [url]www.hoteldelparqueclassico.com[/url] Calle 24 No. 4 A-79. I don't know how many stars it has but I always pay 90,000 pesos/night (US$38). On the same corner there is Hotel Del Parque Superior. Calle 24 No. 4-93. [url]http://www.wcities.com/en/record/31,54897/100/record.html[/url]
My first time in Bogota I stayed there thinking it was the other one and it cost about US$60/night but it appeared to be of the same quality.
They are located downtown. Only 4,000 peso taxi ride from Santa Fe. You could actually walk but I would not recommend it. The taxis from the airport to the hotel always want 15,000 pesos but I always get them down to 11,000.
I know I saw that on the site but WTF was up with that bouncer that he couldnt just say straight up 'nobody comes in with tennis shoes.'
I think it's kind of fucking stupid you have to get all dressed up when the clothing is going to come off soon enough anyways. You also apparently have to be stripped down to your underwear at a minimum to get into the fantasy room there, and I don't wear underwear :P How fucking arrogant is that to make you wear fancy clothes and then make you take them off again?!
Generally I go all over Bogota the same way I go all over NYC and Miami, nice shirt, black Chinese pants, black sneakers. I HATE not wearing sneakers. Actually if I'm just out on the street I wear a T-shirt and shorts because I was raised in Canada and to me 50 farenheit is still beach weather!
Where was it you got turned away because of 'couples night'? I think next time we may just go to that '49' place, but we really wanted a swing club because of the voyeur/exhibitionist thing. You just can't start fucking in a strip club AFAIK. :P
Should be making my first visit to the capital city in early October.
Reading the boards, I am surprised by some of the prices being paid.
Oetzieboy
I just made a reservation at the Windsor yesterday.
Will be in Bog from the Sept. 29th till Oct 1st. If some of you guys want to hook up for a beer and some sexploration. PM me.
Saludos.
Latinbull
[QUOTE=LatinBull]Oetzieboy
I just made a reservation at the Windsor yesterday.
Will be in Bog from the Sept. 29th till Oct 1st. If some of you guys want to hook up for a beer and some sexploration. PM me.
Saludos.
Latinbull[/QUOTE]
Thanks again LatinBull, I did my booking by phone and hope it will be fine, I'll be there sept. 9-12 only wish you success and fun..sorry for not meeting
I am all set to go to Bogota and set up my language school business / extra rooms for rent in my apartment.
I am going to Bogota on Oct. 9th to meet my friend and her realitor friend to look at three bedroom apartments for rent during that week.
I am looking for suggestions on good, fun parts of the city to find a nice three bedroom apt to steer her. I don't care if it's busy or noisey. I just want a really nice place close to bars and night life that is really safe.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. If everything goes well then I will have a great little set up for people to visit Bogota!
Thanks all,
CT
I would recommend Galerias. It is very close to everything, noisy, but nice and relatively safe. There are also parts of Chapinero that are nice and reasonable but some of it is a little dicey. Hopefully you can see a place before you put your money down, this will tell you all you need to know, especially if you go at night!
[QUOTE=Bango Cheito]I would recommend Galerias. It is very close to everything, noisy, but nice and relatively safe. There are also parts of Chapinero that are nice and reasonable but some of it is a little dicey. Hopefully you can see a place before you put your money down, this will tell you all you need to know, especially if you go at night![/QUOTE]
Thanks! The accreditation school is at CALLE 118 NO. 25-52, SANTA BARBARA. So I am thinking somewhere close? I will be there for 5 days, hopefully it will be enough time to check out enough places.
CT
You could just get an apartment real close. There are tons of clubs right on calle 118 from the autopista (where the Transmilenio stops) east. It will be more expensive and 'tranquil', but there's hardly a lack of nightlife, and from there you are only a short jaunt away from Usaquen where there are MORE clubs :P
[QUOTE=Routard]Here are three clubs locations worth to visit:
La Mansion Autopista Norte et Pepe Sierra (Calle 116)
Lancaster Calle 90 No14-57
Club Extasis Calle 86a No 14-57
If you meet in one of those clubs Louisa, a petite young blonde, please PM me. She is just back from Saint Maarten. She is a good girl.
Routard[/QUOTE]I did meet Louisa and have some pic do you want too trade pics.
[QUOTE=Routard]Here are three clubs locations worth to visit:
La Mansion Autopista Norte et Pepe Sierra (Calle 116)
Lancaster Calle 90 No14-57
Club Extasis Calle 86a No 14-57
If you meet in one of those clubs Louisa, a petite young blonde, please PM me. She is just back from Saint Maarten. She is a good girl.
Routard[/QUOTE]For the Louisa pic,s you can email me at [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue]
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Rsdrsd is my name on here for the Louisa pics.
Moving to Bogota soon and I plan on being on this thread a lot so I thought I'd kick things off with a nice photo of a girl or two I banged in Medellin. They are non-pros before anyone asks! ;-)
BB
please let me know what area you are looking into for an apartment. you should look around the zona rosa, or just north as it is safe for americans there. i would be interested in renting from you , as long as you had a wi fi internet, and had a fast high speed internet. also, are you looking for a apartment with a exterior pool, that might be difficult.
gordon
Amigos
If want to hook up for a beer, PM me.
LatinBull
[quote=gordon gecko]please let me know what area you are looking into for an apartment. you should look around the zona rosa, or just north as it is safe for americans there. i would be interested in renting from you , as long as you had a wi fi internet, and had a fast high speed internet. also, are you looking for a apartment with a exterior pool, that might be difficult.
gordon[/quote]
gg,
i posted another comment but deleted it because i think i have found a house in santa barbara. it is a nice 4 bedroom house with 4 bathrooms. i will be looking at it at the end of the month and will sign a lease if they allow it to be leased to my company. stay tuned!
bb
BB, ( Bogota Brian)
Let me when you have found an apartment, I will be your first client. But the price has to be fair. Check the classifieds in the El Tiempo from bogota, you can find hundreds of apartments for 200.00 to 300.00 per month. Evrything is cheap here for apartments. Make sure you bargain with these people, because they mark everything up at least 50 percent. Bargain with these suckkers.
GG
Hola,
I moved to Bogota a few months ago and so if anyone wants to grab a beer and check out the scene just let me know. I tried to make a trip last night to a few clubs (Extasis, Barbys, and some other). Of course the prices that they wanted were too high and the chicks that I saw weren't that hot. I know they are plenty of hot chicks I just don't know where they are hiding.
D
Dwayne, you might want to activate your private messages.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Are there ANY 4-5 star hotels that are GF? When I am in Bogota I stay at the Hotel Del Parque Classico. [url]www.hoteldelparqueclassico.com[/url] Calle 24 No. 4 A-79. I don't know how many stars it has but I always pay 90,000 pesos/night (US$38). [/QUOTE]It took a while to find it, at [url]www.hoteldelparqueclasico.com[/url]
On the web, they ask for higher rates, but I emailed them.
I can only reconfirm, very nice place, more than GF I would say the staff is girl respectful, clean and incredible kind staff.
Since it was my first trip to Colombia I preferred to rent a car by hour rate (yellow cab 12.000/ Hotel cab 14.000 per hour) I've been at Casino, Lido and other places, girls are as usual hit and miss, requested every where 150.000- 300.000, be may careful with waiters, they get your bills and do not return the change if you do not insist on it, pesos 1.000 & 10.000 bills are similar so be careful ....
Thanks to all for the large and serious contribution
Don't pay more than 12k an hour for taxis in Bogota. Anything higher than that is a ripoff.
Glad you liked the hotel.
If you found a nice girl, PM her phone number.
Saludos.
Latinbull
[QUOTE=oetziboy]I can only reconfirm, very nice place, more than GF I would say the staff is girl respectful, clean and incredible kind staff.
Since it was my first trip to Colombia I preferred to rent a car by hour rate (yellow cab 12.000/ Hotel cab 14.000 per hour) I've been at Casino, Lido and other places, girls are as usual hit and miss, requested every where 150.000- 300.000, be may careful with waiters, they get your bills and do not return the change if you do not insist on it, pesos 1.000 & 10.000 bills are similar so be careful ....
Thanks to all for the large and serious contribution[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bango Cheito]Don't pay more than 12k an hour for taxis in Bogota. Anything higher than that is a ripoff.[/QUOTE]
That's 6 bucks an hour! Out of which the driver has to pay gas, and sometimes the hire of the taxi too. Could you survive on that? We're happy to pay the girls $100+/hour!
If the driver's been straight with you, why not cut him some slack and give him a decent tip. He'll be very grateful, trust me.
12K is less than US$5.00 per hour. I'm happy to pay the girls US$6 to US$40 per hour. This is Colombia.
The taxistas are happy for the business and do not expect tips. I do tip for extra services and bag handling. One or two K is a nice tip.
I pay 10,000 pesos an hour in Bogota. That is what they ask me for. Anything more is a ripoff. If you want to give more, fine. But if he asks for it, he is trying to cheat you.
I don't want to get in an argument. I simply stand by my statement. No local would pay more than 12k an hour to hire a car, therefore neither would I. When to tip and how much is largely a personal matter, but it is not something taxistas anywhere in Latin America expect.
My philosophy is to pay what the locals pay, no more, no less. Sex in Bogota can be had from as little as 5k all the way up to a million or more per call. The former is a lot less pleasant and more risky than most of us would want, the latter is out of my price range. I'd imagine most of us are going to fall somewhere in the middle.
Hey all,
Visiting Bogota for the 1st time next week for work (maybe a few days in Cartagena too). I'm an experienced monger in other parts of the world, but no habla Espanol. By reading your Bogota reports, it seems that without speaking Spanish, it'll be quite a challenge to manage the club and pick up scene. I can't use my work associates that I'll be meeting in Bogota, since word would get back to the home office, or worse.
So I'm thinking I'm better off just getting a girl to come to my hotel from an Escort Service. Are those services as bad (with bait & switch) as I think they'll be? And is SexyModelsColombia the only one to handle non-Spanish speaking clientele?
Your advice appreciated.
Cheers,
Mainsteam
Amigo.
It is a sure bait and switch.... don't believe any of the pictures...
HOWEVER (in capital letters)
When I am in Bogota, I never go out to the clubs (not so much time) so I always call agencies (Chuscas.com), I especify what I want and negotiate the price (Spanish is a must!). I have never been disapointed.
I will be in Bogota this friday, saturday and sunday morning.
I will be staying at the Windsor House Hotel. PM if interested on a beer.
LatinBull.
[QUOTE=Gordon Gecko]BB, ( Bogota Brian)
Let me when you have found an apartment, I will be your first client. But the price has to be fair. Check the classifieds in the El Tiempo from bogota, you can find hundreds of apartments for 200.00 to 300.00 per month. Evrything is cheap here for apartments. Make sure you bargain with these people, because they mark everything up at least 50 percent. Bargain with these suckkers.
GG[/QUOTE]
I will be in Bogota looking at several apartments and houses next week. I'll be bargaining like heck!!
By the way, anyone interested in meeting up let me know. Beersterry and I will be on the prowl!!!
Laters,
BB
Dear board,
I have been to Medellin several times but I am getting ready to move to Bogota to take Spanish classes for a few months in November. I fly out for a week this Monday to find an apartment.
My question is about the main differences between the girls in Bogota vs Medellin for people who have been to both.
I have limited Spanish speaking skills but have always had lots of luck with the nonpros in Medellin. I have heard that the Medellin girls are snobby but I haven't run into that although I know it's all relative.
Are the girls friendlier in Medellin or Bogota?
Are the girls as hot in Bogota? Is it even close?
Do girls in Bogota put out faster or slower (nonpros)? In Medellin the maximum number of dates for payday has been two but 50% gave it up on the first date.
Are the girls more used to seeing gringos in Bogota which has an adverse effect on picking them up?
I am going to post the same question in the Medellin section.
Thanks for the inputs!!
BB
[QUOTE=LatinBull]Amigo.
It is a sure bait and switch.... don't believe any of the pictures...
HOWEVER (in capital letters)
When I am in Bogota, I never go out to the clubs (not so much time) so I always call agencies (Chuscas.com), I especify what I want and negotiate the price (Spanish is a must!). I have never been disapointed.
I will be in Bogota this friday, saturday and sunday morning.
I will be staying at the Windsor House Hotel. PM if interested on a beer.
LatinBull. [/QUOTE]Thanks for the offer, m8, I would've enjoyed meeting you. But I won't arrive at the Windsor House until Sunday evening. I'll be there Monday night too. I guess I'll just call the agencies anyway (in English) and try my luck. If anyone else has another suggestion, I'm listening.
Cheers,
Mainsteam
Bogota is like any big city. A little more cosmopolitan but alot of people are in a hurry. It is not target rich like Medellin, but at least there are things to do during the day.
Did the La Piscina and El Castillo thing. There were a few good looking women at La Piscina (cheaper) but more at El Castillo. The starting (asking) prices were ridiculous.
Met 'DWayne' who showed BB and I around. Thanks Dwayne! He showed us places around Parque 93 such as Juan Pablo's and "The Angels". Better looking girls. Cheaper if you just get their numbers and arrange for the next day.
Thanks for The Angels tip, I am going to dinner in Park 93 in a few minutes. Any other names of houses that are geared for the locals more? I hate clip joints.
Any street action in the city?
Thanks,
Garotoz
Hi,
I just got to Bogota and wanted to know any updated places to meet and pick up Chicas (either pro or nonpro) in daytime, as well as nighttime.
Anyone in BOG now? I'm here the next couple days and would love to have a drink with a fellow BOG lover.
I'm near Zona Rosa, really close, and the hotel I'm at sucks becuase it charges you for bring a chica (or any guest) into your room.
Thanks!
I am in Bogota as I write. I did some sight seeing and visited the Santa Fe area. I scoured the area. I met one flaquita, 19 yrs, and took her to a local ST hotel. 30k cop for her and 12k for the hotel (clean, hot showers). She was cute, but the appearant rule in the zona roja is no touch anything without plastic. No change in positions, CBJ only, infact no HJ without a condom in place. Initially she did not want to remove the blouse and bra, and then no kissing her breast! I avoided getting into a funk and finished with her quickly. She told me it was the rule through out the area. In the end she wanted 20k more because she took her top and bra off. The rest of the area was filed with some pretty rough tallant. The Piscina was open witha few girls late in the afternoon. The price is 70k for 1/2hr including the room.
Last night, (my first night), I took an extended tour of various locations. The vast majority had very poor, unenthusiastic tallant and were in effect bars bent on serving expensive drinks, not pussy. I ended up in a more classic brothel with about 5 women. I was quoted 200k for the girl, (I nearly choaked) and 88k for the room. A whisky was 20k. Wow what a bargain! I was about to leave when I saw a shy, not pretty, but not ugly dark haired girl in the corner. I changed seats and started talking to her. I asked how much she really wanted. And after a few tries she said 100k. I said ok and we headed up stairs to a relatively nice room. As I am starting to take my clothes off, in walks the owner with a lady drink asking for another 100k for the room, a lady drink and a tip for him. The show has started. I said I´m leaving, here´s 20k for my drink. He backs down, but continues to argue. I said good bye, and he accepted the original offer and left. Whew!
That was the bad. The good was she gave a really world class BBBJ, and after I explained I was sterile, I saved on an expensive lamb skin as well. Ya never know.
Over all. Bogota is interesting, but it doesn´t hold a candle to ANY place in Brazil. I´m sure if you lived here or really worked the dating websites and had non pros lined up it would be great destination. I have two more nights here, maybe I will change my mind. One other thing, the hotels charge extra for a visitation to you room. In my case ( La Boheme) its $45 US per visit. Now that is an unwelcome bite. The other hotels are similar and there are not many ST hotels.
Better hunting.
Garotoz
Garatoz, what is your room number? Let's meet up for a drink on Monday?
Garotoz,
Great intel and reporting of an area I have been thinking about going to. I get alot of interest from Bogota from Amigos.com. But none of the street/casa reports have been very enticing.
711. If Im not here leave your number and I will call you.
Garotoz
I think you hit the nail on the head. The nonpro scene is where it's at in Bogota once you've worked it. I'll let you know after I move there in November.
BB
Ihave one comment regarding the high surcharge for bring girls into your room for a friendly get to gether. Inquire about the cost of double occupancy. It is $25 per day at the La Boheme and I am sure it is less at other hotels. For those multiple scores in your room this is a pain less solution.
The other observationabout Bogota is thas the prices appear to have doubled in the last 10 months. Not a good sign.
I Went to the salt mine cathedral today - interesting place. If you are a Catholic you will be delighted and blessed as well. After that, I returned to Santa Fe and found a cute chica who attempted to arrouse me with a BBHJ, but her hands were too cold. Plan B was better - my hands were warmer. A good CBJ and a very good FS, all for 25k cop - thats $10 plus a 5k cop tip. Everyone was happy.
The whole area is a bit seedier than the Villa Mimosa and the tallant is of a lower grade as well. There is frequently a pearl to be found if one looks enough.
There is a motel like zone on Calle 62 off Caracas - a short street. 30kfor 3 hours some with spas.
Also, the SW sceen in Zona Rosa on Carera 15 in the area of Calle 90 - 100 starts at 10 pm and many of the girls from Santa Fe are there (per my driver). The Piscina was closed when I was there.
Well, the night is young.
Garotoz
Hi,
I wanted to let you know that Bogota will be having a sex/adult entertainment fair from Oct. 12 to Oct. 23. I plan on checking it out if I get the chance. "El Tiempo" had a good article on it stating that there would be 70 exhibitors so I’m hopeful it will have representation from some of the better strip clubs, escort services, etc.
Details are:
Feria del Sexo
Oct. 12 – Oct. 23
Centro Commercial Carrera 13 56-35
Hours: 4pm to 2am
Entrance Fee: $15,000
BTW, I'm in Brazil at the moment but will be back in Bogota on Friday so if anyone is around drop me a PM.
@hotel guest surcharges - i'm not sure if you read the forum before your trips, but la boheme, morrison hotel, hotel charlotte, hotel colon, etc. in zona rosa have always charged those ridiculous fees for overnight guests. or, in the case of hotel charlotte and hotel colon, you cannot even bring in guests who aren't registered when you first check-in. seriously. it's due to its location, and generally the regular clientele of the hotel. you should call and verify ahead of time at other hotels.
there are several hotels/apart-hotels in the zona rosa/parque 93 area that are much cheaper, just as safe and convenient to all. moreover, you can bring in multiple overnight guests. you might want to read up a little. they've been posted before.
@ sante fe - the normal on-site rates at la piscina and el castillo are between cop50.000-cop70.000 (room included), depends on the girl. all-nite rates will vary, depends on the girl and how much work she's put in that day already. many of them end up at fortaleza after work (after 2:00 am), and it's easy pickings for all-nite, at cop80.000-120.000. again, depends on the girl, and how good your spanish conversation is. i prefer the nights down in sante fe. not recommended as it's much more dangerous, but much more fun and the talent is ripe.
during the day, piscina del dia is ok around 1:00 pm. but you must understand that most girls work late at nite, esp. the better-looking ones. you can enter most of the bars without paying a cover, just a cursory pat-down by security. they start to enter the sidebars down in sante fe around 4:00 pm. at the sidebars, the rates are cop25.000-cop40.000 (room included) for 20-30 minutes on-site. if you don't see anything worth it, head to another place. la piscina/el castillo then picks up around 7:00-8:00 pm.
other daytime action, check out the massage parlors abejitas or mantis club in zona rosa. full service should run you between cop100.000-150.000 (incl. massage) for an hour on-site. verify prices up front with your chica, as full service price depends on her.
warning - unless you like getting ass-raped on your bill, stay away from the zona rosa clip joints like casanova, copacabana, xtasis, el cerdo, and i guess, lancaster. these are the clip joints, from a bottle of water costing cop12.000 to a beer costing cop15.000 to a glass of whiskey running cop20.000-25.000. the chicas will quote you cop200.000 to $100usd, and it really isn't worth it. but arrangements can be made to meet somewhere later for less. i was able to set-up 3 chicas from casanova come to my hotel for tln for cop250.000. i was also able to get two chicas who work at juan pablos, but ended up in lancaster, back for tln for only cop200.000 total incl taxi.
i only say this to say, be creative. anything is more than possible in the p4p scene.
happy hunting!!!
I found a great taxi driver today. Honest with good rates - 12k per hr. Name is John Aguilera. Cell is 3124456142, or call 35555555 and ask for movil 214.
I went to La Piscina during the day and had a fun session with a chica. Good sense of humor, good service although a bit animated. Later I went to both th El Castillo and La piscina (night). I found the women to be more attractive, but no knock outs and I found their attitudes left a lot to be desired. Harder and very professional. I passed. Later I found an acceptable vessel and finished the evening.
Overall I found during my short stay that the quality is lacking overall and nearly every chica was condom crazy. I would not come back because there are much better places to go.
There is one exception. The Museo de Oro was magnificent and made the trip worth while.
Garotoz
LatinBull / and members,
Can you guys let me know what the rates were at the Windsor Hotel in Bogota? I am checking out the sites and am getting different quotes. I like to know what to expect before calling the hotel directly. Thanks for you anticipated help!
Max
Rates at the Windsor. Between US$75 to US$100 depending on the type of room.
LatinBull
[QUOTE=Dwayne]Hi,
I wanted to let you know that Bogota will be having a sex/adult entertainment fair from Oct. 12 to Oct. 23. I plan on checking it out if I get the chance. "El Tiempo" had a good article on it stating that there would be 70 exhibitors so I’m hopeful it will have representation from some of the better strip clubs, escort services, etc.
Details are:
Feria del Sexo
Oct. 12 – Oct. 23
Centro Commercial Carrera 13 56-35
Hours: 4pm to 2am
Entrance Fee: $15,000
BTW, I'm in Brazil at the moment but will be back in Bogota on Friday so if anyone is around drop me a PM.[/QUOTE]I checked this out over the weekend--tremendous waste of time. A few sex shops sheepishly displaying neon vibrators and every half hour or so a 10 minute T&A show. None of the agencias de acompañantes were there, and girls.
[QUOTE=LatinBull]Rates at the Windsor. Between US$75 to US$100 depending on the type of room.
LatinBull[/QUOTE]Suites Real 85 is cheap (~USD50), very conveniently located, very chica friendly, and totally comfortable. I've had agency girls come up to my room without any fuss, and I've brought several home as well. The rooms have a separate bedroom and a kitchenette. The minibar is actually reasonably priced--first time I've experienced minibar beer for less than USD1.
tel: 218 0100
address: Carrera 18 No. 84-56 (5 minute walk to fun restaurants, bars and 2 fine massage parlours)
[url]http://www.suitesreal.com/85/english.htm[/url]
This event is taking place in Bogota as we speak:
[url]http://www.guiacereza.com/articulos/objetodedeseo/index.php[/url]
The website is in Spanish and it includes a listing of motels, hotels, erotic stores and a couple of other things:
[url]http://www.guiacereza.com/home.php[/url]
Does anybody have any rooms for rent with Wi-fi internet? I am tired of staying at hotels that are over priced. Why doesn't the Aussie start up a a house here, it is better here than medellin, even though bogota just had a car bomb.
GG
We just returned from a quick weekend trip to Bogota and wanted to clarify some things that might have been missed in the previous reports and to add our own impressions.
First of all the difference between the girls in Medellin and Bogota is noticable in favor of the former. Having said that there are plenty of cute girls to be found in Bogota and their attitude overall seemed less noticable. In fact it was easy to make out with regular girls in the clubs, and I thought overall the girls were more opend minded compared to Medellin.
For nonpro action if you are looking to meet regual girls the best one currently is Saint Angel (or San Angel) which is on the same street around Park 93 where all larger clubs are. Come early and get a dinner table; later the restaurant turns into a club. The appetizers are outstanding. Having a table and a couple of bottles on it will help you later on with the hotties dancing between the tables.
Downtown strip clubs. This mainly concerns El Castillo and La Piscina. El Castio seems a notch above in quality of the atmosphere and decor. Other than that both had hot girls. If you arrive before 10 PM the action is slow, picking up by 11 and reaching its peak at midnight. I sampled an 18 year old from Medellin and the price was 62,000 pesos total with 12,000 going to the house. My friend paid 80,000 total to another one. This is for 20 minutes. The prices are very reasonable if you are willing to deal with mostly locals and not as nice a neiborhood as some areas in Norte of Bogota are. Outside the strip clubs, there are many SW and some of them are cute.
Zona Norte strip clubs. We never got the chance to visit any except one but it was too early and it was empty. Most taxi drivers recommended La Mansion and being very $$$$ strip club and the best in Bogota. Unfortunatly we cannot confirm. One taxi driver told us the quality of the girls is 30 to 40 percent better than that of the ones found in downtown clubs. I would like if somebody could confirming that and report here.
The rest is about food and the city itself. The north part is clean and pretty. A lot of US style loft apartments with oversized windows and some new construction is evident. The malls (there are several in that area with the best one being El Retiro) are close to world class. Zona Rosa (and Zona T) areas are clean and safe and is a good place to have dinner and start the night in one of its lounges. We would also like to recommend a place in that area to eat called Piazza Luna which is open until 3 and turns into a lounge/cafe Pravda and the menu changes. Order Balsamic Beef (25,000 pesos): one of best beef cuts we've had. The salad bar is also great. Later on at night the place gets croweded with a hip local crowd. Their martinis and the food are also great.
Overall very good impressions.
I will be in Bogota for about two weeks in Dec. I have looked at the list on the forum but want to know about good room delivery options. I will be in the Radison. I don't speak spanish but have mongered round the world for many years. Any suggestions will be helpful as well as anything on safe weekend action.
Thanks Willb
I will be in Bogota early December, staying at the Sheraton, is the hotel girl friendly, is there any action in the area, does anyone have a recommendation of an escort service. I did some research on this site and most people advise that the photos of the ladies on the escort sites are not real.
The hourly fee? Do they do overnight?
[QUOTE=AddictedToWomen]Gotta fly from UK to Colombia this time.
Anyone know any good (=cheap) routes from UK to Bog now there's no direct flights.
Rather avoid the US if I can. Any good routes via Europe or Central America?[/QUOTE]Hey, maybe a little late. Next time fly to Dubai and then to Caracas to Bogota. A little longer than flying to Miami but cheaper with Air France I believe. Best of luck. I fly from Frankfurt or CDG to bogota about 4-5 times a year.
Since I am in Bogota on business, decided to try some of the local talent. Rather than take the risk of going down to Barrio Santa Fe, I had some time one afternoon last week, and decided to explore some of the budget options in the northern part of town. I had noticed some listings in the "Plan B" magazine, and saw that a couple of places were near where I am staying.
I walked out to calle 104 and carrera 15. I had found a listing for Abadesas, a massage parlor. Just as I got there, it started to pour, and I sought shelter in the strip mall where it was located. That seemed like a good sign. I hung around for about half an hour, dissuaded by the sight of a couple of guys loitering on the mezzanine level of the mall where the massage parlor was located. I gradually noticed that basically the entire mezzanine was massage operations. I then began to think that maybe the guys loitering there were security. So I stepped up, took a deep breath, and walked up. As I walked up, one of the guys whispered something, I think suggesting that I try another place besides Abadesas.
I walked down to the end of the corridor to No. 9. On the way, some other doors opened and mama-sans beckoned me to come in, as a I caught glimpses of young women sitting around in the rooms. A cute brunette with blonde highlights smiled and let me in to No. 9. It was a small room partitioned into maybe two compartments, plus an open area with a couch where the ladies were sitting around. A brunette, with ample augmented breasts but a thicker waist than ideal gave me the run-down. She showed me into the compartment with a massage table, and said the price was 25K for a massage plus HJ, 35K for Russian (?), 45K for massage and BJ, and 60K for massage and FS. I said I’d go for FS. She saw that I was eyeing the thin cutie manning the door, and graciously offered me the choice. I selected the cutie, whose name was Bridget. It was a good choice.
Bridget and I went into the cubicle. A bit surreal, since the light in the room came in from the opaqued storefront window of the place, and the doors and walls didn’t go up to the ceiling, so I could hear the girls chatter away and also some other guy who stopped in. But I was horny enough not to let it bother me. She collected the money up front. She said that she was 21, a rola from Bogota. Bridget undressed to her bra and panties, and started a so-so massage with me on my stomach. I reached around and started to play with her pussy. She got into it, and untied the strings of her panties and took them off, so that I could have free access to her pussy. She started to get wet, which was also a good sign. After a while, she suggested we change to something else. She got on the massage table, and let me start sucking on her nice, natural breasts, with responsive nipples. I moved down and wanted to start DATY, but she didn’t let me, so I continued to work on her pussy with my fingers. She enjoyed it, and actually came, or at least did a hell of an acting job for my 60K pesos. After she had enough, she moved on to an excellent CBJ. Leisurely pace, nice tongue, some DT, different poses.
We finally got into FS, with her riding me CG. She was very good and inventive. We moved on to missionary, and that’s how I finished. She cleaned me up very well, with an alcohol lotion, and we dressed. Nice kisses on the cheek and hugs as we parted ways. Good experience, if one can get over the lack of privacy and cramped quarters, and the potential security issues, i.e., being caught with your pants down with nothing but a flimsy door between you and the outside world.
[QUOTE=Mongoloid]Hey, maybe a little late. Next time fly to Dubai and then to Caracas to Bogota. A little longer than flying to Miami but cheaper with Air France I believe. Best of luck. I fly from Frankfurt or CDG to bogota about 4-5 times a year.[/QUOTE]
I'll check it out. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Novio]
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I walked out to calle 104 and carrera 15. I had found a listing for Abadesas, a massage parlor. .
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Good experience, if one can get over the lack of privacy and cramped quarters, and the potential security issues, i.e., being caught with your pants down with nothing but a flimsy door between you and the outside world.[/QUOTE]
Sure that wasn't Abado at 116? Sounds very similar, even to the extent of the flimsy door, which certainly gave me pause on my first trip there. Sounds like they've put the price up too -- I'm sure it was only 50k last time.
Anyone had any lucking getting the girls there to do photos? You had to offer them any additional money?
Not monger related but someone here might just know where's a good place in Bogotá to buy ultra-high and platform stripper heels?
Hello Gents,
I have finally moved to Bogota and I am starting to research the possibility of opening a B&B. I wanted to come on here and get a general interest vibe of such a place. I will probably start off with a nice casa and rent the rooms per day, week, and month. I will show people around the town at night but admittedly I have a lot to learn first. By the way, there is a new casa that opened up near calle 86, carr 15-14. Walked in for two seconds and not much going on.
QB
Essentials:
Security for entrance and valuables.
Location
Wireless *and* wired internet
Hot water! And not just a small heater that takes 2 hours to warm up enough for a 3 minute rinse at low pressure.
Sure other folks can add other stuff, but those are my bête noirs.
[QUOTE=AddictedToWomen]Not monger related but someone here might just know where's a good place in Bogotá to buy ultra-high and platform stripper heels?[/QUOTE]Well A2W, how much do you weigh. Might be able to help you. Have you tried San Andresito?
Anyone in Bogota and up for going out this week?
I'm staying at Suites Real 97 on calle 97a. I have been here a few days and looking to hit the Zona Rosa night life this week w/c 4th.
Anyone up for doing the same email me.
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[QUOTE=Mongoloid]Well A2W, how much do you weigh. Might be able to help you. Have you tried San Andresito?[/QUOTE]
What do *I* weigh? Far too much to get a job as a stripper, I can assure you! But the young lady I want these for could easily :)
I'll check out San Andresito: thanks!
I was in Bogota yesterday at my usual spot Hotel del Parque. I always pay COP 88,000/night. Well I had a non-pro come over last night from 3 to 5, and they added COP 40,000 to my bill. I like the hotel because it is close to Santa Fe, but I refused to be abused this way. I gotta find another crash spot.
[QUOTE=Bensark]Anyone in Bogota and up for going out this week?
I'm staying at Suites Real 97 on calle 97a. I have been here a few days and looking to hit the Zona Rosa night life this week w/c 4th.
Anyone up for doing the same email me.
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just seeing if you were around this weekend...
QB
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]I was in Bogota yesterday at my usual spot Hotel del Parque. I always pay COP 88,000/night. Well I had a non-pro come over last night from 3 to 5, and they added COP 40,000 to my bill. I like the hotel because it is close to Santa Fe, but I refused to be abused this way. I gotta find another crash spot.[/QUOTE]
Complain. Tell this this is totally unacceptable, you refuse to pay it, and if they try that sort of shit again you'll be moving out forthwith.
The Last time I was in Bogota there was a car bomb and a American got kidnapped, be careful, it is dangerous out there. Americans are not advised to go to bogota. The embassy says that it is dangerous.
Hi qb,
Room 311 at suites real 97 phone number 610 9700 leave a message, although Friday (tonight) is my last night, wasa around parque 93, ended up in sands after some beer lounge bar, nailed a 25 yr old from Barranquilla in the end.
Day before that ended up calle 82 in a bar turned club called Coconut or Cheers was a whole group of girls on an office party. I didn't pull. I ended up dancing with 4. They were they type that normally wouldnt be out in this area, no attitude types.
I saw the subject website and called, asked for Angeleca, she arrived promptly to my hotel, the front desk phoned, escorted her to my room and charged me a fee.
Although Angeleca looks OK in the web photos, she is unattractive in person, no pretty face, very skinny, no English. The site said 200,000, she indicated it was 270,000 plus 60,000 cab, I gave he 330,000. Between her looks and greed for money I was really turned off, she was very mechanical, after one shot she went to the bathroom and washed and left, I was glad to see her go. I had my camera with me, never even thought of a photo because she was such a disappointment.
[QUOTE=Gordon Gecko]The Last time I was in Bogota there was a car bomb and a American got kidnapped, be careful, it is dangerous out there. Americans are not advised to go to bogota. The embassy says that it is dangerous.[/QUOTE]I was just there a few weeks ago. I think if you stick to the Zona Rosa area I feel you are pretty safe, just always be aware of your surroundings like in any city.
This is my first time in Colombia and reporting as a newbie. Experienced mongers won't get much out of my reports but newbies might pick up a thing or two. I get very verbose on these things and sorry, there are no cliff notes.
Day 1:
We left on the morning of black Friday and got to the airport at around 5am and the line for Avianca was already 3 deep. Luckily for us, it wasn't too bad and we made it onto the plane without any problems. After a short 5 hr ride, we landed in Bogota at 1pm and went through immigrations without any issues at all. We noticed that the LEFT line was much quicker than the right. We did not chose wisely.
We decided to change some money at the airport and I was required to submit my passport and thumb print along with a bunch of questions. I've never been asked for a thumb print before. I can't believe I went through all that trouble just to exchange 200 USD.
Right outside of the airport was a taxi stand where we took an official yellow cab to Dann Norte hotel on the north side of town. We dropped off our bags and went straight to the Museo de Oro (Gold Museum) in downtown around Calle 16. Before we even got off the car, a beggar had already came up to the door. He would not stop hassling us but I've seen far worst in NYC so this wasn't anything new. The guards at the Museo de Oro stopped him from following us as we entered through a metal detector.
The gold collection was impressive but limited in quantity. IMO, it wasn't really worth it to stop by Bogota just to see the display. There were 3 floors and only the top 2 floors had anything. Across the street were many souvenir shops but nothing really worth picking up. We then walked around the area and there were tons of people on the streets as it was near rush hour. The cops normally traveled in groups of 3 and in a dark green uniform that resembles military uniform. There were some carrying rifles as I expected. We strolled around the blocks for a bit but there was really nothing to see so we hailed a cab and went back to the hotel.
For dinner, we went to El Sitio as recommended by the "Bogota List". Had I known Parque de la 93 was full of bars and restaurants I would've just had the taxi driver drop us off in the general area and walk around until we found one. El Sitio actually wasn't bad but I don't know if it is standard practice to frisk every customer that walks through the door. It was pretty empty that night but the food was decent.
After a full day of little sleep, we took a short nap before heading out to X VIP on the list. The place could not be found so the taxi driver took us to another place close by that had no name. We entered through the front and no one was there. After about 30 seconds, a girl came out and asked us to go in. I asked if we could at least see the girls and she refused. The spidey sense went off and we decided to bail.
Next the driver took us to 2 strip clubs in Zona Rosa. Again, these 2 places have no name. What's up with that? As we entered, there was a stage to the right and a water fall/pool on the left. The place was full of colombianos and lots of unoccupied hot colombianas as well. We decide to sit for a while and just relax. My friend wasn't planning on taking a girl tonight so just wanted to chill and enjoy the view.
We saw a total of 2 strip shows. The first girl was very plain and a disappointment but the 2nd was much hotter. Guys were lined up on the side of the stage I assume to take her after she was done. I figure this place was somewhat of a clip joint charging us 24k for EACH beer. Yet we were stupid enough to take 2 girls next door anyway for $150 USD for room + girl for 1 hr. My friend picked a girl w/ a very cute face and decent hourglass shaped body. I went with a typical latina with big silicone boobs. They originally wanted 300k + 120k for the room but we negociated it 150 USD. It was still too expensive but we went with it anyway.
The rooms next door were very nice and had a jacuzzi in the room w/ pr0n playing on the TV. The attendant wanted to charge 10USD for 3 condoms. REFUSE this. The girl will definitely have condoms. My session was pretty mechanical and probably the worst of my entire trip. She then found creative ways to continue to ask for more money which I refused everytime. This was a horrible start to a 10 day trip that I was really looking forward to.
After we got out, we took a taxi right infront of the club and it cost us 20k to get back to the hotel. I am certain that it should not cost more than 5k. If we ever return to Bogota, and that is pretty much going to be never, I would give him 5k and go into the hotel and have the concierge deal with him if he wanted more money.
This was overall a very poor start to what would turn out to be a great trip.
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[QUOTE=Phoenix Phx]I think if you stick to the Zona Rosa area I feel you are pretty safe, [/QUOTE]
I wish. A while back grenades were thrown into one of the bars in the Zona Rosa -- where else can you attack foreigners and the wealthy with such ease?
Also its prime territory for drink doping: never leave your drink unattended or you might be asleep for a few days. This apparently gets worse in the run up to Christmas as folks get desperate for the money.
Nice report. A few comments:
If you change money you'll be ripped off. Head upstairs to the ATMs. Outside, left hand exit, reenter the terminal building, escalator on the left, at the top turn right and head about 3/4 of the way along to find a room full of ATMs on your left. Davidienda will give up to 500k in a single tx if your trying to minimise yr bank charges.
For taxis though, assuming you don't want to visit the ATMs, after bag inspection, head *directly* right. *Not* forwards into the seething mass and then right, but directly right. That's were the official taxi dispatcher is and you'll be asked your destination and issued a ticket with a plate number and price. Safer.
The place with the pool you described sounds like La Piscina, just north of the ZR. But they over charge big time. I was asked for 200k last time by an admittedly gorgeous girl very late on a quiet night. And much as I wanted to, I passed. That's 4 pops elsewhere, and my friend downstairs doesn't over concern himself with aesthetics.
[QUOTE=Mr Blue]This is my first time in Colombia and reporting as a newbie. Experienced mongers won't get much out of my reports but newbies might pick up a thing or two.[/QUOTE]
My buddy and I will be in Bogota soon, so I really appreciate the detail in your report.
I can't wait to read about the places and girls who you do strongly recommend!
All advice on do's and don'ts is greatly appreciated!
DB
[QUOTE=AddictedToWomen]Nice report. A few comments:
If you change money you'll be ripped off. Head upstairs to the ATMs. Outside, left hand exit, reenter the terminal building, escalator on the left, at the top turn right and head about 3/4 of the way along to find a room full of ATMs on your left. Davidienda will give up to 500k in a single tx if your trying to minimise yr bank charges.
For taxis though, assuming you don't want to visit the ATMs, after bag inspection, head *directly* right. *Not* forwards into the seething mass and then right, but directly right. That's were the official taxi dispatcher is and you'll be asked your destination and issued a ticket with a plate number and price. Safer.
The place with the pool you described sounds like La Piscina, just north of the ZR. But they over charge big time. I was asked for 200k last time by an admittedly gorgeous girl very late on a quiet night. And much as I wanted to, I passed. That's 4 pops elsewhere, and my friend downstairs doesn't over concern himself with aesthetics.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tips. For some reason we thought carrying an ATM card into Colombia would be risky. Now that we've been there, this is absolutely false. You are right in that we got ripped off with every USD we exchanged. When I got back I noticed COP never dropped below 2280 for our entire trip yet we never got above 2200 and most of the time only 2150.
We actually did hail a taxi from the official stand w/ a printed ticket. I didn't make that clear in the report.
Since we were only staying one night in Bogota, the plane tix were same price if we stopped in Bogota or not so might as well, I didn't put too much time in research. I just printed out the Bogota list and off we went. This shows how important research is before a trip! These things change so quickly sometimes that the information in the compiled lists could be out of date.
[QUOTE=AddictedToWomen]I wish. A while back grenades were thrown into one of the bars in the Zona Rosa -- where else can you attack foreigners and the wealthy with such ease?
Also its prime territory for drink doping: never leave your drink unattended or you might be asleep for a few days. This apparently gets worse in the run up to Christmas as folks get desperate for the money.[/QUOTE]Guess I will just chalk it up to the risk of travel, this would not stop me from going to Bogota and hanging in Zona Rosa. There is a obvious threat of a terror strike there as I am sure you know per the points you mentioned. The security check you get going into bars, etc. or just watch all the car searches at Andino. Pretty obvious they are concerned about all bomb types.
As for watching a drink I hope all the guys on here know that is common sense no matter where you are.
It´s Sunday night and most of the bars are dead. There´s nary a soul in Gyros Kebab except us two and the waiters. As the wine and the shisha pipe smoking took effect my girl laid her head on my shoulder and asked when we were going back to my room. Just then a noisy group came in to the restaurant and I knew that our intimate time was over. Back in the room I found that the Casilla del Diablo wine had put the diablo into my hitherto conservative girl, met via Latin American Cupid. After some wild sheet thrashing and exhausted sleep she had to go off to a job placement agency. She´s a nurse looking to work abroad.
Also, I had already booked my flight to Barranquilla for that afternoon. After weeks of cool, cloudy climes in Cusco, Lima and Bogota I was looking for some heat and sunshine. I mean, this is supposed to be the tropics dammit. But my flight out is from here to Miami on the 23rd so my hands will have a chance to travel her 4 foot 11, 100 pound curves some more.
I arrived here on a Friday night, with no reservation and only vague ideas as per my usual precise travel planning. I resorted to the tourist information booth just outside of customs. They hooked me up with Cosmos100 Hotel on Calle 100 near Cra. 19. It cost just under $90 with taxes included. It turned out to be guest friendly enough but there was the usual ID check and a nominal charge of 3500 pesos (security charge they called it). There´s a rooftop pool that´s glass dome covered. So you can even catch some rays this way. The lightly equipped gym is next to this. The breakfast was pretty good. The only problem is they seem to think that their cool climate excuses them from any thoughts about ventilation. In the room there´s no fan or AC and the window only opens a small crack. It can get pretty stuffy in there regardless of the weather outside. The location is a short taxi ride from places of mongering interest.
However, I didn´t have a chance to sample those places since I was mostly busy with my nurse. In the malls I didn´t seem to notice many unattached girls. They were mostly paired off with boyfriends.
The Zona Rosa looks like it could be a happy hunting ground, especially on Saturday nights. Sunday was pretty quiet, which I was able to use to my advantage as described above.
What I liked:
1. Palacetes. My plane arrived in Bogota at 9: 00 PM, so I was the vulnerable stranger trying to get laid on my first night. My airport taxi driver recommended this place (also reviewed on this Board). I got there at about midnight, and there was one attractive chica on duty. Her name was Catalina, but I later found out that there is another chica named Catalina who works there. The Catalina I saw was taller than average, and she was just a little slimmer than the other Catalina (also an attractive chica, but untested). In my mongering journeys, I tend to err on my first chica because I am so damned horny. But Catalina la Alta was quite sweet and sexually responsive, as I like them. I want the lady to have a good time, and she gave it up a couple times. She seemed inexperienced in matters sexual, and there is charm in that. Oh, and she was tight, so tight it was very difficult to stay in there when she contracted to come her brains out. In my first-encounter enthusiasm, I paid her $50 in United States currency, and I also paid $10 for her drink (there was not an actual drink. Just a bar fee) and then another $10 for the room. I was pussy-whipped, and so I caved in when Catalina asked for 5, 000 for the maid. Stupidly, in my post-flight fatigue, I left my $11 bottle of lubricant in the room, so I returned the next day to see if it was still there. The goon at the bar said that it had been all used up, the prior night. Damn good lubricant, so I hope someone had a good time. Anyway, while I was laughing about my losses while sitting on one of the pathetic little Palacetes sofas, I met Yeimi (Jaime), a lady of about 30-33 years with a sense of humor and a gorgeous white, white butt. Yeimi agreed to meet me the next morning at my hotel for $50. She was great fun. She spent 40 minutes more than the hour we agreed to, and she proved to be an interesting person. She talked about her years in Japan and Britain as a working girl. Apparently the Japanese expected her to see 6 customers a day, and she did not like that. But it allowed her to buy a house in Bogota for her and her daughter. So she sees two guys a day now at Palacetes to buy groceries. She had a great orientation to my pleasure, and she had a lovely butt up in the air.
2. Piscina Del Dia: I saw three chicas there, and all were fun. You go in any time after noon until about 7, and there are attractive ladies and very few men. They ask 4, 000 to 5, 000 pesos (less than $2. 50) for a beer or soft drink, and the charge is the same for a chica drink. So you can relax and watch the European porn on the big screen. The girls do not approach you unless asked (I like that so much). The girls do show you their asses by walking past you, though. On my first trip I chose Isabella, a perky chica with a great attitude. I signed up for only a half-hour for 70, 000 pesos (about $32), but the room staff kept pounding on the door after 15 minutes. Poor Isabella lost her orgasm drive because of the knocking (she was so close). I did fine, but felt bad for perky Isabella, who claimed to be a business student at the Universidad Nacionale. On my next trip to Piscina del Dia, Isabella introduced me to her friend Diana from Cali. Diana was not as young and perky as Isabella, but was great on service (I signed up for an hour and told the maid "no molesta! "). The cost was 110, 000 pesos ($50), and Diana really put her heart into it. Not a clock-watcher, Diana was as sweet and giving as any lady I have seen. OK, she had a little Caesarian scar on her belly, but that is a badge of honor in my book. More importantly, she had a fine firm butt that she liked to hold up in the air for me. Finally, on my last trip to PDD, Diana recommended a hot young spinner named Sandra. Sandra was a little hyperactive, which makes me think of drugs. But this young lady had an absolutely beautiful body, especially her butt. What a vision in those mirrors! Those Piscina Del Dia rooms were not bad at all. Sandra spent a lot of time on her knees, and she had these long orgasms where she seemed to lose herself. I have to admit that she seemed ambivalent about all this pleasure, and I think she would have refused such intense sex if Diana had not told her to show me a good time. Thank you, Diana of Cali. The moral of this story is to treat a lady well, and she will help you out with her friends if you play your cards right.
3. It was good to get away from my fellow gringos for several days. I don't remember a single person speaking English, except when addressing me. I saw a couple Europeans at my hotel (Hotel del Parque), but no Americans or Canadians. I am sure that more foreigners hang out in the upscale neighborhoods, but it was good to get away. Mongering in Costa Rica involves elbow rubbing with so many guys it feels like tailgating at a football game. I like to be on my own. I enjoyed the restaurants, the museums, the public squares, the architecture, and the city bustle. At my age, you can't screw all day and all night.
4. I liked my hotel, Hotel del Parque. I will write a separate post.
What I did not like in Bogota:
1. The street girls in Santa Fe are at their stations in front of their love hotels by 9: 00 A. M. (the earliest I showed up). Most of the ladies are not so attractive, but I found one who looked good. She wanted 30, 000 pesos ($14) for 20 minutes, and I persuaded her to accept the same price for 30 minutes. She was so mechanical and controlling that I felt ripped off even though I paid so little. Her favorite word was "No": no doggie, no ball washing, no depth to the oral, no bra removal. At the end she could not understand why I was unhappy with her. She told me I should return. Clearly she did not have any idea what I wanted.
2. Piscina (the main club on the big street in Santa Fe) was very disappointing and very different from the laid-back Piscina del Dia. On a Friday night, there were more men than women in Piscina: a real sausage fest. The waiters and security were as rude as possible. First they insisted that I sit at an isolated upstairs table, and then I paid about $7-8 for a beer. After I was half-way done with my beer, security insisted I buy a drink for a chica. Then the waiter insisted. Actually, the women looked hard, very hard with their hard fake tits and hard bar hair and hard faces set in make-up. Looking around, I really did not see the type of fresh, hot girl that I like. The floorshow was laughably amateurish. I left.
Mixed Reviews:
1. Lancaster, Casanova, and Extasis are "up-scale" but actually tiny places in the calles 80's and 90's (in contrast, most of my mongering and sightseeing as well as my hotel was farther south in the calles 20's and 30's.). These places wanted 15, 000 pesos ($7) for a beer, and wanted 20, 000 pesos for a chica drink. I never paid for a chica drink, even though I was asked to do so every 5 minutes. That was annoying. What was nice is that I was able to get the telephone numbers of one chica at each one of these places. One of them yielded an excellent session back at my hotel for $60; one led to a disgusting telephone up-selling on the chica's part; and one was a missed opportunity because I was too busy to see her (I think she would have been very good). Personally, I think you are a sucker if you pay the regular rates at these places ($100 or more), and I think you are a sucker if you buy chica drinks for almost $10. But I was pleased by the entrepreneurial readiness of most chicas to visit me at my hotel. Milena, the chica who visited me after meeting me at the club the night before, was a sweet, intelligent angel who spoke slowly (so I could understand her simplified Spanish) and gave every evidence of enjoying her time with me. She was very unhurried and willing to try whatever I asked. She asked to stay the night, but I told her I can't sleep with anyone else in the room. She seemed disappointed and repeatedly asked me to call her.
2. Condoms were required by all seven ladies I saw. As has been pointed out on this Board before, the Bogota chicas are much more likely to insist on condoms than chicas in Costa Rica, Republica Dominica, and Buenos Aires. My own feeling on this is that I would rather have a skilled oralist who insists on cover than an unskilled chica. I was pleased by several of the ladies, all of whom offered ball licking except the street chica.
3. The street security situation was better than San Jose, Costa Rica, but not as good as Buenos Aires. Here I am talking about the better neighborhoods of all three countries. At night I felt very comfortable walking at night in the 80s and 90s calles, whereas I would never walk at night in downtown San Jose (but I would in San Isidro). As recommended on this site, I used only marked taxis. As for daytime walking, I felt comfortable in Santa Fe and most other places I went. However, when walking in the Parque Nacionale, I felt suddenly isolated with three ugly young men with facial scars approaching me. I was lucky to be able to walk on the grass so as to avoid them and jump down a little wall, to be with others. As usual, there were about 10 policemen talking with each other and ignoring public safety, just 150 yards from where I felt isolated and threatened. The police are everywhere, with their automatic weapons. They seem to have an arrogant attitude. As in Costa Rica, they are never where they might be helpful. There are just more of them.
4. The Universidad Nacionale was surprisingly politicized, with revolutionary graffiti all over and with a huge, home-made drawing of Che Guevara on a building in the center of campus. Guys, it's the 21st Century! Even though it is supposed to be the great public university of the country, it appeared to be shoddy and under-funded. On the other hand, I found a lot of Spanish-language texts in my field that I had not known about, so that was interesting. I spent the afternoon in the library during an intense thunderstorm, and I had a good time reading and poking around. But that is what I do.
Overall, I had a good trip. The chicas weren't as beautiful as I thought they would be, but I was lucky to spend time with some excellent providers. I probably will not return, but I have some nice memories. It was a splendid isolation, with hot chicas at low prices. I write this review because I would not have had a good time if I had not been able to learn from the reports on this site.
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I was just there over Thanksgiving (Hotel del Parque Classico), and they did not charge me a chica fee even though I expected them to do so. The bellhop on the first night told me that there was a COP 39,000 chica fee, but they did not charge me for either of two chica visits.
On the other hand, they charged me just a little bit more for night: 90,000 vs. your 88,000.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]I was in Bogota yesterday at my usual spot Hotel del Parque. I always pay COP 88,000/night. Well I had a non-pro come over last night from 3 to 5, and they added COP 40,000 to my bill. I like the hotel because it is close to Santa Fe, but I refused to be abused this way. I gotta find another crash spot.[/QUOTE]
What is the exact address for Palacetes?
So I can add it to the list.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Riverm]What I liked:
1. Palacetes. My plane arrived in Bogota at 9: 00 PM, so I was the vulnerable stranger trying to get laid on my first night. My airport taxi driver recommended this place (also reviewed on this Board). I got there at about midnight, and there was one attractive chica on duty. Her name was Catalina, but I later found out that there is another chica named Catalina who works there. The Catalina I saw was taller than average, and she was just a little slimmer than the other Catalina (also an attractive chica, but untested). In my mongering journeys, I tend to err on my first chica because I am so damned horny. But Catalina la Alta was quite sweet and sexually responsive, as I like them. I want the lady to have a good time, and she gave it up a couple times. She seemed inexperienced in matters sexual, and there is charm in that. Oh, and she was tight, so tight it was very difficult to stay in there when she contracted to come her brains out. In my first-encounter enthusiasm, I paid her $50 in United States currency, and I also paid $10 for her drink (there was not an actual drink. Just a bar fee) and then another $10 for the room. I was pussy-whipped, and so I caved in when Catalina asked for 5, 000 for the maid. Stupidly, in my post-flight fatigue, I left my $11 bottle of lubricant in the room, so I returned the next day to see if it was still there. The goon at the bar said that it had been all used up, the prior night. Damn good lubricant, so I hope someone had a good time. Anyway, while I was laughing about my losses while sitting on one of the pathetic little Palacetes sofas, I met Yeimi (Jaime), a lady of about 30-33 years with a sense of humor and a gorgeous white, white butt. Yeimi agreed to meet me the next morning at my hotel for $50. She was great fun. She spent 40 minutes more than the hour we agreed to, and she proved to be an interesting person. She talked about her years in Japan and Britain as a working girl. Apparently the Japanese expected her to see 6 customers a day, and she did not like that. But it allowed her to buy a house in Bogota for her and her daughter. So she sees two guys a day now at Palacetes to buy groceries. She had a great orientation to my pleasure, and she had a lovely butt up in the air.
Do you have any pics of these Ladies???
They sound quite interesting.
El Cubanito
[QUOTE=World Travel 69]What is the exact address for Palacetes?
So I can add it to the list.
Thanks[/quote]I do not have the exact address of Palacetes. I had two business cards with the exact address, but I discarded them upon my return. Sorry.
I do have my map of Bogota. I can tell you that Palacetes is on Calle 30 where it dead-ends into Carrera 19. When walking from the Convention Center and Museo Nacionale, it is the last house on the left before the dead-end. If a taxi going west on the Gaitan expressway exits to the north on Carrera 19, he goes two blocks before taking a right on Calle 30 (with Palacetes on the corner right). There is a goon sitting outside the buidling; otherwise the house looks like every other house in the neighborhood, with no sign of prostitution. Actually, it is a very interesting neighborhood, with some colorful and stylish homes. It is fun to walk there during the day, but I would not walk there at night.
A taxi driver showed me where it was.
[QUOTE=El Cubanito]Do you have any pics of these Ladies???
They sound quite interesting.
El Cubanito[/QUOTE]I did not take many pics in Bogota, and the few I took involved promises: "No internet." What can I tell you about the looks of these ladies? I do watch a lot of porn, and I have seen about 200 working girls over the past 4 years. I can say that the young chica Sandra at Piscina del Dia was as pretty as any lady I have seen. Of course, you have to like the natural Latin look. But I am not sure that her service would be consistently good (she seemed to be over-worked but committed to pleasing me because I was friends with her friend). The first-night chica at Palacetes named Catalina was long and tall in the style of a model, but she was oddly inexperienced in sexual matters.The other chicas were definitely attractive in their late 20s and early 30s, but they were not stunning in pure looks. From what I have seen when other mongers post pictures, I am much more selective than the average guy.
And I do know that one picture would be worth more than the above words.
The first thing to say about Hotel del Parque Clasico (Calle 24 No. 4 A-79) is that it is different from Hotel del Parque Superior, which is just around the corner. Hotel del Parque Classico, my hotel and the subject of this review, is 40% less expensive than the other hotel. They told me I would pay $43 per night, but the actual charge on my Master Card was $41 per night (this included eggs, bread, and coffee at breakfast).
The hotel and room were very clean, and I liked the shiny hardwood floors. I had a nice view, with big windows, of a few city blocks that rose into the foothills of the mountains to the West of the city. On my first day I complained about the shower, which gave off a single powerful stream of water instead of, well, a shower. The maintenance man found a true shower head and installed it later in the day, but I was somewhat embarrassed to learn later at various *****houses that the single hard stream of water is totally typical of Bogota plumbing. It took the water about 5 minutes to get hot on the seventh floor.
I seemed to be the only gringo in the hotel during my 5-night stay, but I saw some Europeans in the restaurant. One older man in management of the hotel spoke basic English, and Erica Gomez, often at the front desk during the days, had some knowledge of English. I liked it that way.
The hotel Wi-Fi worked consistently in the restaurant and lobby of the hotel, but inconsistently with a weak signal in my 7th floor room (it seemed to work best in the wee hours of the morning).
The bellboys and one of the waiters in the restaurant seemed to have a special interest in my sexual satisfaction. A bellboy started me out on my first night by promising me a lady “muy bonita” for 130,000 pesos, with a 39,000 peso fee going to the hotel. This amounted to about $77, which I declined. I always like to see the lady in advance. The price quoted by the waiter in the restaurant was 100,000 pesos by the end of the stay at the hotel.
Two chicas did visit me at the hotel for 1 to 2 hours each. I had met them at clubs. The person on duty at the main desk simply called me when they arrived and asked if it was OK for the chicas to come up to my room. I liked that system, where I did not have to be in the lobby with the families while the puta signed on the dotted line. I am shy. I was surprised that the hotel did not charge me a chica fee after the bellhop had told me that a chica fee would be required. Go figure.
I was able to keep lots of fruit in the mini-frig. It became somewhat cold at night, but the multiple wool covers get me adequately warm (just barely). The restaurant and room service were priced a bit higher than the typical restaurant, and the food was acceptable (nothing great but tasty).
I would have stayed at either Suites Real, but all the rooms there were booked in advance for the long weekend. On balance, I ended up liking my little hotel and its location within walking distance of the Museo Nacionale, Plaza Bolivar, and the many *****houses in and around Santa Fe. The Parque across the street really is attractive, but I urge you to stay on the main paths to avoid evil-looking ones.
Bottom line: This hotel was inexpensive and supportive of my hobby. Indeed, there was a fine big mirror on one side of the bed. That is what I want.
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Dear all,
As it happens somehow often to me, my experience is not completely aligned to the majority of reports archived. Therefore, I thought to add my 5 cents of information. Note: I am Italian, I can speak some survival Spanish. This helps a lot in Colombia.
IS BOGOTA DANGEROUS?
Yes, caution must be exercised, but we do not have to be paranoid! I walked alone night and day also in Santa Fe, and nothing happened to me. At night, Av. Caracas is more dangerous than SF, actually, because there is nobody, while in SF there is people around.
Being prudent, while walking at night in SF, means:
- stay with people, if possible
- walk fast
- hide yourself, try to look a local. if you look "gringo", I would avoid to walk there at night without a destination.
Take a taxi, if you go to a club or back to the hotel (but doing so you'll miss SWs).
At daytime, I consider SF really OK. No problems at all.
I would also leave all credit cards and passport in the hotel, just in case of being robbered.
CLUBS
I sampled El Castillo one night. Nothing special, in my opinion. Nice girls, kind and professional doorman, but I was not very excited about what I found. I moved away to another club I think we can have better options.
HIGH-END CLUBS
I think that clubs in the North area (cr.93, ..., 85, etc) are overestimated in reports. Overpriced too.
Converesely, I found a very good club, suggested by two independent taxy drivers, expensive but worth. The name is something like Lorinai, or Lorimai. It is close to the university, cl.49 and cr.13. (pls check may be not exact). All taxi drivers should know it, I think.
Very beautiful and elegant girls, higher prices but really worth, good and clean rooms.
I did not read about it in these reports. It is a pity nobody knows it in this forum! I recommend it.
LOW-END CLUBS
If you like to be brave and have fun in low-end places (like me), then SantaFe is your place.
Plenty of clubs. Note that the *lower average quality* means that you'll find ugly, old girls AND real gems, all mixed together (lower average, higher variance, if you know about statistics).
No foreign tourists here! Spanish is a must.
Part of the fun is hunting, no? you need to explore and dig, then you find gems.
Clubs are not all in one street, so to move around you need to walk in a radius of maybe 400 meters. Therefore, be cautious at night. Look around and walk fast, straight to your destination.
Start from Av. 19, west of Caracas, and move North, up to cl.23,25 (?), where there is El Castillo.
Right time is after 7pm (if you want no people yet, all girls ready and wating for you) until 2am, 3am or so, if you like crowded places.
I sampled many, entering and exiting several times, until I found what I liked. Drinks (and girls) are cheap, however, so bar hopping does not make much damage.
I have a special memory of El Coche Rojo, smallest place where I found only 4 girls working at 7pm, but 2-3 of them were outstanding! Very young and sexy. And cheap! (30k / 20mins).
Actually, I found there the most beautiful girl I ever met in Bogota! Petite morenita. I wonder if she's still there or she moved. She told me she was 19, I wonder if it is true.
I had fun at Paisa, one of the most crowded places (I guess specific for people of Medellin). Many girls, some really beautiful.
I went two times to "Atunes" (this name is wrong, sorry I cannot remember the right word, but it looks like this, written in some hand-written-like characters), at the end of a street with 5-6 other clubs (one is Venus, probably) all close together. The first time, it was good. The second time, a girl tried to robber me ordering a bottle of champaign after having sit to my table (!). I left immediately.
I think girls move a lot around, so I would suggest to enter and exit many clubs, before stopping. In all places, expect to see a wide spectrum of girls types, considering age, size, beauty, etc., changing day by day.
STREET ACTION
At day, you'll find a lot of girls in SantaFe and east of Caracas, cr. 13 south of av.19 (cl 19-17 or so).
Avoid cr.13 north of av.19 (cl 20-21). Ugly and old women.
As for low-end clubs, expect to see ANYTHING. Youngest and oldest, ugly and beautiful, good and bad attitude. Some girls come for one day then disappear.
Gems are rare, but prices are very cheap (even 15k, never pay more than 30k). I found real surprises : - ) I never saw them the next time.
Spanish is a must.
At night, lots of girls as well, but be cautious walking around or simply avoid it.
Note: girls may take you in "hotels" where rooms are frankly horrible, even stinky. Be prepared, or do not go.
BEWARE: lots of trannies!
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This report is an add-on to my previous report report hereunder.
I forgot to mention one thing about the club Lorinai.
Actually, you'll find two doors. Many people outside. Many (kind) guys trying to push you inside. They are two competitor clubs!
Lorinai is the one to the right. The taxi driver told me that the one to the left has same quality. I did not try.
SORRY, I dont remember how much is the rate I payed, but I would say something in range 100k-200k (1 hour). Girls are mostly elegant and very beautiful, better than in El Castillo.
Best regards
[QUOTE=Black Page]I forgot to mention one thing about the club Lorinai.
Actually, you'll find two doors. Many people outside. Many (kind) guys trying to push you inside. They are two competitor clubs!
Lorinai is the one to the right. The taxi driver told me that the one to the left has same quality. I did not try.
SORRY, I dont remember how much is the rate I payed, but I would say something in range 100k-200k (1 hour). Girls are mostly elegant and very beautiful, better than in El Castillo.
Best regards[/QUOTE]
This is "Whiskeria La Forty Nine".
It has been reported previously, but not for some time. I went once and found it disappointing.
[QUOTE=Cachorro]This is "Whiskeria La Forty Nine".
It has been reported previously, but not for some time. I went once and found it disappointing.[/QUOTE]Is this the one to the left or the one at right that I reported as " Lorinai"? Btw, since you seem to know this place, what is the right name? Lorinai? Lorimai?
Actually, one thing I understood in my visit in Bogota: each place may give a different impression if visited multiple times. Girls rotate a lot.
When I visited "Lorinai", I found more than 15 girls, 90% of them outstanding, if compared to what I saw in El Castillo.
Just returned from a very satisfactory experience with "Vicky" at Abado Massage, Carrera 15 # 116-59, apt 203, Tel 637 6627. The price has gone up to 60k for full service.
Vicky is the first service provider I've found who actually knows how to give a proper massage, and seems to enjoy it as well. She's scrupulously hygenic, but doesn't let it interfere with the experience. No rush, no fuss. She will charge more, apparently, for kissing or daty, and she has some very kissable lips, but I passed.
She does do a slight moaning and cuming thing, but its not so objectionable that it ruined the experience, indeed its very believable.
She does speak some English too.
Recommended.
[QUOTE=Black Page]Btw, since you seem to know this place, what is the right name? Lorinai? Lorimai?
[/QUOTE]
The correct name is ¨La Forty Nine¨.
I am talking about the doorway on the right as you go to enter. The night I went was Friday, which was supposed to be the best night. There were only two shows in about 2.5 hours I was there, neither was any good. There were some decent looking girls for company, but priced high for Bogota. A group of friends went on another night and had a similar underwhelming experience. Glad you found it good on the night you went.
I've had a couple of more experiences at Abadesa's and a neighboring joint on the mezzanine of K. 15, cll. 104, including a hot repeat with Bridget and a romp with a buxom brunette from Cali named Ericka, but I decided to take a hike up to Abado’s to see what that was like, especially to see if there was more privacy/security in the massage cubicles. Well, I got my answer.
Per the descriptions in previous posts, the location of Abado’s was non-descript, nothing but the address on the doorway, (K 15, #116-59). I walked up the stairs, looked left and saw a cardboard sign with the number “203” on it. The door was open, and there were a couple of chicas there. The first girl took me into a cubicle and gave me the run-down. I mistakenly thought she was the mama-san; and then asked her to show me the other girls. Vicky came in and introduced herself and, based on the previous poster, decided to give her a try. Pretty, well-made up face, black hair, decent breasts, a bit thicker in the waist than ideal, and shaved kitty. She took off her bra, and began to give me a real massage. Was an interesting conversationalist.
The cubicle was a little bit more secure than Abadesa’s and their neighbors. When she came back to the room to begin the session, Vicky closed the door and put a sawed off broomstick against the sliding door to secure it. The cubicle also had a mirror on the wall above the massage table to add to the experience. One interesting thing was that the couple next door was extremely energetic, and I could feel the whole floor shaking to their rhythm.
Vicky was definitely health-conscious. As the session began, she sprayed alcohol rinse on my hands. After the massage, she started a CBJ that was pretty good, with her on the table between my legs rather than side saddle. She wasn’t enthusiastic about the idea, but I decided to work on her for a while, sucking on her breasts and trying to play with her pussy. She didn’t want me to touch her very vigorously and seemed to endure it rather than enjoy it. When it came time for the main event, she took off the first condom and put on another one that resembled plastic wrap with a rubber string at the base! Vicky said it was because the second condom was more “seguro.” We started FS in missionary, with me on top, which was enjoyable. We then switched to DS, and both Vicky and I watched each other in the mirror until I finished.
After the session, Vicky took her time. She cleaned me up, using more of the alcohol rinse that seems to be standard issue in these places, and even gave me a wet-nap from her bag to clean off some of the oil residue on my back from the massage. We talked more, dressed slowly, and then said goodbye. I’m not sure I’d repeat with her since I had better experiences with Bridget and Ericka.
Interesting side note. As always, better options seem to arise after you’ve made a commitment. When I originally came up the stairs, the suite across from 203 also had its door open, but no one was there, so I went ahead into Abado’s. As I was leaving, I noticed that this neighboring suite now had about four young and hot-looking girls in pink smocks who looked up at me expectantly. Either they were beauty school trainees, or affiliated with Abado’s massage or the competition. May have to check that out on a subsequent visit.
FYI: For "civilian" landmarks, Abado's is about two blocks north of the Dann Carlton Norte hotel, and one block north from a large Carulla grocery store. Abadesa's is kitty corner from the Dann Carlton Hotel.
The place across the passageway is just an extension of Abado's: I've had service there too.
[QUOTE=Cachorro]The correct name is ¨La Forty Nine¨.
I am talking about the doorway on the right as you go to enter. The night I went was Friday, which was supposed to be the best night. There were only two shows in about 2.5 hours I was there, neither was any good. There were some decent looking girls for company, but priced high for Bogota. A group of friends went on another night and had a similar underwhelming experience. Glad you found it good on the night you went.[/QUOTE]You are definitely right. Thank you for correcting my info.
I checked my credit card bill. That place is actually named "La Wiskeria la 49".
I am confused.
TWO taxi drivers told me about that place, 4 weeks one after the other.
In both cases, I understood a name like "lorinai".
My Spanish is not so bad to understand "lorinai" instead of "la 49", so I really do not understand. Maybe a nickname? sorry for having given an incomplete information.
About the experience, I agree that they are priced high. That night, actually, the girl level looked to me pretty high (definitely higher than what I saw in my unique experience in El Castillo).
However, these numbers are too small to be statistically significant: 2 test in Lorinai/Wiskeria and 1 in El Castillo.
Should I give a suggestion to a friend, I would say to go to have a look in several low-level clubs in Santa Fe, before anything. Finding a pearl among dozens of old and sleazy ones on the streets is priceless! It happened to me every time I tried, but I walked around at least 1 hour before being lucky.
Best regards to all.
Dodge
We know you are back. We know you have had time to reload and recover. Ok then ... tell us all the details. Photos. The lewd and sordid adventures of DodgerBulldog in Bogota. The Colombianas must have been decimated and out of service now for the next 30 days recovering. No need for any other guys to head down until February. The Dodge has been there and conquered.
TGAM Noguera
After dinner my buddy and I hailed a taxi and asked to go to a medium level club in a barrio called Chapinero on Avenida Caracas. For some reason, I seemed drawn to the name of the club, "Lindas Universitarias."
I know what it is like to be a poor college student. Maybe I could assist a deserving chica looking to supplement her beca.
When we got there it was locked up tight with no signs of life. I started going down my cheat sheet when the taxista intervened. If we wanted to see some piel, his strong suggestion was La Piscina. But he made us promise not to walk the neighborhood, and call for a taxi when we were ready to return.
I don't often take cabby's suggestions, but we weren't doing too well on our own and the guy seemed legit, so he drove us to the Santa Fe neighborhood in Centro where La Piscina is in the center of the red light district.
We were mauled upon entry, as a half dozen waiters all tried to drag us to sit at a table in their area. The were plenty of women, lots of dancing, but we were in a for a bit of a surprise:
They claimed that they did not even have beer. They told us that they only sold whiskey, and only by the bottle. For $50 US.
Yes, $50 USD.
I guess we looked like a couple of stupid gringos.
I told them that I did not even know what a dollar was. All I had was pesos, same as the Colombianos there. The guy told me that they didn't accept pesos from gringos.
Right.
So I went off to the bathroom and wandered around a bit. I made friends with the gay bartender, who hails from Huila, Colombia. He sold me a local brew for 3000 pesos ($1.35).
The waiter told us that since we only had a beer, we couldn't sit in the room where the chicas were at the swimming pool. House rules.
Oh well.
Man, was I horny. I quickly narrowed it down between a classic Colombiana-looking MILF, and a hot young spinner. I saw the spinner get snatched up and escorted to a table, so naturally my competitive nature told me that I had to have her.
A short while later I saw her wandering about, so I walked into the piscina area, and pulled her over to my table. She was pleasant enough, and one of those chicas who are in constant motion, but all business. Estefani claimed to be 20, but she may have been padding that by a year or so.
I was set on taking someone home to start the trip off right. So I got the lowdown on the pricing: 80,000 pesos on-site. Or 380,000 take out, which equals $170. Hmmmm.
I got Estefani's phone number and she agreed to come over at 11 AM, for 150,000. That is still about $70.
She said she had to go change, and came back in a bikini to do a pole dance. The way she moved was so fucking hot, and she knew just how to play to me.
Estefani was smart enough to come right back after her set, with a glistening of sweat that cast a sheen on her body. I couldn't wait any longer.
We rode the elevator up to the fourth floor, where there was just a mattress on the floor inside four plain walls.
Again, she was pretty business like, not letting me spend too much time on her breasts, which were a bit oversized for such a tight little body. I loved her razor-sharp hips.
She wasted no time going straight to a CBJ. I had to slow her down, but appreciated that she did listen to my instructions and coaching.
It wasn't long before she mounted me, and I was surprised that this old body could cum so fast. I guess that is what happens when it has been so long between chicas...
It was all good, but I didn't think Estefani was worth a repeat the next morning.
I didn't have my camera, but figured I better get a shot while I could, so I pulled out my cell. She was somewhat resistant, as you can see. The lighting was terrible. I need to learn how to use this phone camera in adverse conditions.
Anyway, a couple terrible photos are attached. Just enough to give you a hint of how shapely she is. Even though you can't see her face, it was quite lovely. My friend agreed that she was the hottest chica in the place.
Don't worry, the photos will get better from here on out.
DB
Hi Folks.
Just came out of La Mansión de la Barbie Calle 49 13-70.
Place look like safe.
Entrance fee is 1000 cop to see the girls.
They had 3 available girls when I arrived (around 4pm), but I noticed a very slim and petite morenita that went up with another customer just when I arrived.
None of the 3 other girls where of my taste (I like them very slim and with a small ass and a small belt), and the guy who runs the place proposed me to wait for the other busy girls to come down.
After 15 minutes, a new girl came thru the entrance door.
She was definitely cute, slim, white, busty, with a very small belt size.
But she started to talk with the boss and told him that she was just coming out of a fight with someone who slammed her face!
I was wondering if she then would be in condition to give a good service after that…
But she didn’t seem to be upset.
After 5 minutes or so, the guy asked her to get dressed and prepare herself.
Meanwhile, the morenita came back and I finally decided to go with her.
Prices are 20K for 15 minutes, 40K for 30 & 60K for an hour.
The condom has to be paid to the girl (9k), and I asked her if she would propose any extra like anal, but she didn’t want to do it even though she said that she could make an effort but she was afraid of the pain, so I didn’t insist on anal.
We went up the stairs to a bright room, I mention that, because most rooms in these places are very dark and have almost no light, so you can’t see the girl quite well.
Then we started the extra negociation and I gave her an extra 50K for being authorised to kiss her (very small) breast, and her pussy.
Then, serious thing started, and they started very well.
I gave her a good pussy linking (she left me lick her ass as well) and she started to moan.
After a wile, she asked me to let her suck my dick, and, to my great surprise (and happiness) she did it without condom!
This is quite rare in Colombia where all the girls want you to use the condom all the time.
And she knew exactly how to blow me.
After a good 69 she asked me to penetrate her.
So I moved in good position and started to put my dick (uncovered) into her lips.
She didn’t react and seemed to like it, so I told her that it would be better to cover me but she just open a little bit more her legs and pushed me in.
I was amazed, that’s the very first time that a Colombian Pro acts like that with me.
But it was so good !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I couldn’t resist,
I only tried not to get very deep in her and not to long.
So after 2 minutes, I went back to eat her pussy, and she asked again to be penetrated.
And once again I did it uncovered.
But I couldn’t resist and came very fast (out of her pussy of course).
After cleaning the bed, we had a rest for a while and started to talk.
Her name is Karen, and she comes from Santa Marta.
She declared to be 24 but she looks much younger.
She left her husband 5 years ago.
She has 2 small kids and lives in Bogota for 2 years.
She tries to collect enough money to open a small store and quite her present job.
We talked about our life for the rest of the hour (or more ?) and then the guy downstairs yield at her that the hour was over for quite a while.
So, we dressed up and left with a good kiss.
Well, don’t tell me I’m crazy, I already know that.
But, really that’s an afternoon to remember.
Dodge
We are all waiting!
TGAM Noguera
[QUOTE=Noguera]Dodge
We are all waiting!
TGAM Noguera[/QUOTE]TMAG Nog,
I talked my buddy into heading back to the Santa Fe area in Centro for the afternoon. As we left, I mentioned that depending on how it goes, we may not be back until late tonight.
We started at La Piscina del Dia. It was across the street and a half block down from the place we went the night before. It was obvious from the same gaudy paint job that they were related.
It was a much smaller club, with porno playing on a big screen. The first sweep revealed about 20 chicas, and maybe a dozen men. I knew to ask for the for a 3000 peso beer.
After a few minutes a chica plopped down next to my friend. She was about 30 years old and rather plain – not one I would ever consider. But she spoke passable English. I think that is what he liked about her.
I was attracted to a much younger, long, lean brunette who was deep in conversation at another table. My friend’s chica noticed me staring and called her away from the man she was with. As soon as she was approaching, I got my first good look at her face and decided it wasn’t quite nice enough. So before she could sit down, I excused myself to the bathroom so as not to become entangled.
She took the hint and went back to her man.
There were maybe a couple others of interest, but I was ready to move on, and my friend soon agreed. We poked our heads into El Castillo and the Las Vegas Club, but as it was still afternoon, neither one had a single chica. They told us to come back about 7 PM to see the girls coming in.
There were some obvious street walkers, but not as many as I expected. We wandered over to the La Paisa on Carrera 16. It had maybe a half dozen girls and about 30 guys, so we moved on. A few more clubs were 100% men.
The barker in front of another club tried to pull us in, but I told him I wouldn’t go unless they had chicas, lots of chicas. He promised they had over 20 at that very moment. I was dubious, but once inside, I could see he was right. We settled in for a beer, at 2000 pesos each.
I misplaced the note where I scribbled its name, but it is just a couple doors down from La Paisa, and started with an “F,” La Fiera or El Fuego. Something like that.
We were obviously the only gringos in the place, and the waiter was aiming to please. He immediately brought over a chica for me, and I came to realize that, in his opinion, he was offering me the best the club had to offer. She was young, tiny, and had long black hair. Definitely doable, but I was looking for perfection, and didn’t want to jump at the first one I saw. I asked for more time to look around.
In the next ten minutes the waiter brought three other chicas for me (but none for my friend). I could see the waiter was frustrated that I had turned them all away.
He finally asked what I was looking for. I pointed to a blonde in the distance who I could barely see, and off he went. He brought back a blonde, but not the one I had meant.
She was very young and kind of cute, so I had her sit down. We began a conversation and I found that she had a playful personality. I learned that the cost for full service here was 35,000, or about US$15.
Relieved that he had finally satisfied me, the waiter went in search of a chica for my friend. I guess he surmised that all gringos must like blondes, so he found the only other one in the place and brought her over. She was the one I had been eyeing up and down, and now she was hooked up with my buddy, for chrissakes.
I though she had a beautiful face, a classic Colombiana look. She sported a long, lean athletic torso with tight abs and about c-cup natural breasts, and wispy long blonde hair. I cursed my dumb luck that I had to talk to this cute, little, innocent young thing next to me while my friend was with the Colombiana of my dreams.
The only negative on his blonde was a small one, in that she had braces. This is clearly a status symbol here among the upwardly mobile working girls, as it shows they are attracting enough men and making enough money to afford to upgrade themselves.
I suppose the big fake tits come next.
While I sat there all bitter with envy, I looked up to notice that my friend was now sitting alone again. After a few minutes I realized his chica wasn’t coming back, so I had to ask him what the problem was.
“We weren’t communicating well,” he said.
Geezus H. Christ. He lucks into talking to the chica I wanted, the gem in the place, the queen of all of Santa Fe and El Centro.
He could have fucked a Colombian beauty queen for $15. Which is what I would call the perfect form of “communication.”
And he sends her away because her English skills are lacking!!!
So I asked if he minded if I went after her, and he told me to be his guest. I sent the youngster sitting next to me away, and called the waiter over to bring the back he rubia who I really wanted.
Well, it didn’t happen, as it was her turn to take the stage. She was absolutely breathtaking. I thoroughly enjoyed watching her move in at a slow, deliberate, languid pace. I could easily imagine fucking her in just that manner.
She got totally naked for the fourth song, and I couldn’t wait for it to finish. I was ready to pounce al over her, and so was the waiter, having verified with me three times that I wanted to see her as soon as she was done.
"He is going to bring her to me as soon as her set is over," I said.
"No he's not," my frend replied.
Huh, why would he say that?
When she was finished she went in the dressing room and never came out again. The waiter said he didn’t know where she was, and acted helpless.
I am used to Guatemala, where they will go back and wake the chicas up in their bedrooms, or pull them off the friggin’ toilet, if you ask for them by name. I told him to just go in back and get her for me, but I guess that isn’t how they operate here.
About 45 minutes later, I saw her in street clothes, making the rounds between a few tables and obviously saying her goodbyes for the night.
I much prefer to see a chica in street clothes, as it gives me the illusion of reality. And she was looking better than ever. I love those tight jeans the Colombianas wear!
I managed to position myself near the crowded doorway. As she passed by, I reached out and grabbed her arm, telling her that I needed to talk to her. She gave me a big metallic smile and told me that she would see me mañana.
And just that quickly, she was gone.
Was I totally bummed, or what? A couple hours spent in vain.
Well, no point staying here any longer. Let’s go.
Once outside, I noticed that the doorways were now full of street walkers. I wished to make their acquaintance.
My friend said he was getting hungry.
Let’s grab a quick arepa, I said, I want to talk to the girls.
No, he wanted to take a taxi back to Zona Rosa and eat at an Asian restaurant. The same one we ate at last night.
But we are here now. Who knows when we’ll be back? Let me find a few to talk with and find out some prices. And let’s see what’s cooking now up at El Castillo and Las Vegas.
He wasn’t too pleased, but I told him that now that the neighborhood was really hopping, I needed one hour more to scope the area out.
I went back to a doorway were I had seen a hot chica earlier, but I hadn’t been sure if she was on the menu. When I saw she was still there, it was clear that she was. Two cars stopped and waived her over from amongst the throng of chicas, but both quickly drove off.
I walked up and said hello.
If looks could kill, I would have been dead. What a nasty b****. I immediately lost all interest. I could understand why the two cars drove away so fast.
So it was time to move on and scout for another. We had about six square blocks to cover, all full of chicas in doorways.
My buddy was complaining about how long I had spent talking to the last chica.
Long? All I said was “hola” and went on my way!
Clearly, he didn’t want to be here.
I thought well, maybe he is afraid of the dark, so if we go inside a club he might be more comfortable. Let’s check out El Castillo now, I said.
On the way over, he started complaining that there were no girls in there.
As if he would actually do anything with one if there were…
“At 3:00, there were no chicas. It is after 7:00 now. They said to come back at 7:00. It’s only a half a block away. Let’s poke our heads in and take a look around.”
“I’m starved,” he said. “I’ll pay for the taxi to Zona Rosa, and pay for one to come back later.”
I could see that I was not going to be able to work my game in peace, so I hailed a taxi. Once inside the cab, he told me that he didn’t want to go straight to a restaurant, but rather stop at our apartment and “freshen up a bit.”
After waiting in my room for an hour, I finally knocked on his door. “When the fuck are we going to eat? I thought you were starved!” I could see that he had downed a half a bottle of vodka while “freshening up.”
“Slow down, my friend,” he said. "Enjoy the ambience of the room.”
“I can enjoy my room in the States. I can drink vodka in the States. I can even eat friggin' Asian food in the friggin' States! I came all the way to Bogotá to SPORT FUCK Colombianas. Which is the one thing that I CAN"T do in the States. Let’s fucking GO, man!!!”
He poured me a vodka.
I was grounded…
DB
hey DB ... nice report, funny actually. Great reason to go at it solo ... at your own pace, no nagging.
LMAO
I am crying I am laughing so hard. That's what buddies are truly for ... to laugh at the pain of our good friends! However, I am not certain I really believe your day #2 story. I just cannot truly believe that you went an entire day in Bogota and didn't get laid. I am not sure that is realistic!
Beware of the virgins of Bogota on day #3! Mothers keep your children locked in the house. Dodge is going to be doing some heavy whoring when he recovers from his vodka stupor!
TGAM Noguera
[QUOTE=Ricker]Great reason to go at it solo ... at your own pace, no nagging.[/QUOTE]Ricker, as always, you speak with great wisdom.
I knew there was a lesson to be learned from all this. I knew that I would look back on it someday and laugh.
But at the moment I was pissed.
Nonetheless, when we finally went to dinner, I vowed to be my most diplomatic self while discussing my concerns with my good friend.
Although I have never been known for being any kind of diplomat, at all.
“I know that we both invested a lot of time, money, and psychic energy into this trip. And we both deserve to have the vacation we’ve dreamed of, right?”
“Well, so far, it isn’t happening for me. When I leave the country, I like to fuck 2-3 chicas a day until my dick falls off. But we’ve been here a day and a half already, and I’ve only had one quickie.”
“Now, I have to take some responsibility for that. I AM very picky. But I once I leave my room I don’t go back unless I have someone with me to fuck. So maybe it is best if we split up and spend time each doing our own thing from now on.”
My friend responded well. He wanted me to be happy, and he knows that means getting laid. He said that he would work with me.
I wanted to go back down to Centro. Maybe I’ll do a streetwalker, or maybe a chica in one of the clubs. I could see he was uneasy, but he did agree.
Then he asked if we could first stop by Extasis and Casanova, the high end clubs nearby in Zona Rosa.
Last night I had established that the chicas were asking for 400,000 pesos, plus a 150,000 salido for the club. I knew I wasn’t about to pay that, but I figured that I could collect a few phone numbers to set some appointments for during the day.
Extasis was again pretty bleak. Maybe 10 chicas, maybe two of whom I would have any interest in. My friend sat with one and started to talk. I gave him a few minutes, then asked if he was going to buy a 20,000 peso beer.
Because I wasn’t, and I was ready to go next door.
He decided to come with me to Casanova’s.
Holy shit, this place had changed! There were probably 30 chicas, 20 of whom I would rate at eight or better. And only a handful of men. This looked promising.
I settled on a breathtaking young thing. She had a perfect face, great body, and seemed cheerful enough. She excused herself for a moment (I should have paid more attention to that little trick).
I spotted a dark haired spinner smiling at me and showing off all of her moves. She looked vaguely familiar, as if I had fucked the likes of her before.
Being a loyal soul, I waited for the first chica to return. About 20 minutes.
Once she came back, I did something I won’t normally do. I bought her a drink.
I hate buying drinks. I would rather spend my cash on sex. But I knew I wasn’t going to do that here tonight, so I thought I needed to make some type of investment in her if I was to persuade her to come over tomorrow.
So I bought her a chica drink for 27,000.
Within 60 seconds after the drink had arrived, she was gone.
I complained to the waiter who said he would talk to her, but I knew it wouldn’t help a thing.
Now I could turn my attention back to crowd, looking for that dark haired spinner. I didn’t see her anywhere.
One by one, the three oldest, ugliest chicas in the place plopped themselves next to me. I was polite, but firm. I told them that I wanted “look around” to find my “type.”
Finally, I had to walk away.
My friend had struck up a conversation and seemed to be pretty involved, so that was good. I felt free to go in search of my brunette. She spotted me first.
We practically fell into each others arms. We grabbed a table and made our introductions. Her name was Tatiana, and was she ever a live wire! I do speak some Spanish, but she was talking so fast that I was lucky to catch the half of it.
One thing was clear, we both wanted to do business.
I told her a lie. I said that I had already done two chicas today, and needed to recuperate until noon tomorrow. We made a date. It was time to go to work on the price.
I told her that I knew that they asked for 400,000 but that was ridiculous. Since we would meet tomorrow during her time off, and she could still be at work tomorrow night, offered her 150,000. She countered with 250,000. We settled on 200,000 for a full afternoon, two pop minimum.
My friend was deeply engaged in conversation and I could see that we would not be taking a taxi to Centro this evening. It was after 1 AM, so I decided just to walk home and rest up for my noon rendezvous.
I was pumped!
Now, if only she shows…
DB
Tatiana is Latina, so of course I expected her to be late.
She was supposed to be here by noon. After several unanswered calls to a voicemail, around 1:00 I was ready to give up on her. I called my friend and learned that he had not come back from breakfast yet, so I decided to wait a while longer for him.
Thank the gods that I did. At 1:15 Tatiana called. She would be over in an hour.
Two hours later I received a call from the front desk that there was a Senorita here to see me.
Only three hours and fifteen minutes late. In this country, that's right on time!
Tatiana burst into the room with flair, looking great, smiling big, and kissing me full on the lips. She proceeded to make her presence felt... for the next three and a half days.
So many guys here like to complain about the chicas being “pros,” but give please give me a true professional any day. Tatiana was a pro’s pro. The best kind of pro.
Nary another word about money, nor a mention of time. She was here to stimulate and excite and romance me, and to create the illusion that we had been thrown together by the fates. The fates seemed to know exactly what they were doing, and why they had matched us up together.
I’ve always believed it is a good idea to make sure that that chicas cum first, as it is truly rare that we mongers give them that kind of consideration. However, it just makes sense to me, as it seems to pay itself back many times over.
So I started by oiling Tatiana down, and proceeded with full body manual massage. Then I produced an electric mini-massager to go over her entire body again. Having established that her hygiene was impeccable, I continued to lavish her with a complete oral tongue bath from the nape of her neck down to each individual toe.
Finally, it was time to allow Tatiana to shake hands with the Pocket Rocket. It surprises me how many of these working girls have no idea what it is, and even less what it is used for. They think I plan to insert it in them, and are pleasantly surprised to learn that it goes on their clits.
Those of you who don’t bring a Pocket Rocket along are really missing the boat.
Starting slowly at first to win her trust, I then pinned Tatiana down to where she was helpless to move, making her cum over and over again, while I managed to get two fingers all the way into her little ass.
When I finally got tired and let up on her, I noticed that it was after five. She had received a full 90 minutes of my undivided attention.
If one is looking for GFE, it just makes sense to provide BFE, right?
It was fifteen minutes before she could stir, then she went to compose herself while showering off the oil and freshening herself up for me.
It was my turn now.
Although I can’t say that she was quite as thorough as I had been, Tatiana left out nothing that I desired to be touched, and nothing important unsucked. I never had to indicate to her more than once what I liked, as she was paying close attention to each little response I had for everything she did. Every time that she was polite enough to ask if I was ready for her to mount me, I motioned for a little more of her boca, until finally I could no longer hold out.
I don’t recall how many times we changed positions, but whenever she sensed that I was close to cuming, she became a master at slowing down and backing off. By the time we finished together and kissed and snuggled and spooned, another hour and a half had gone by.
Finally, I felt that I received a proper welcome back to Colombia.
Whew...
Weighing in with all of 44 kilos on her 154 centimeter frame, she was just the type of spinner I had been looking for. Attached are some photos, including one taken after she received her promotion to honored position of “Captain” on the Dodger’s team.
DB
Congrats DB ....
Glad you found a good one!
Nice morenita ... great body ... if she got some braces and fixed up her over bite a bit, she'd be espectacular.
Taker easy amigo ...
[QUOTE=Col Bog 1]So after 2 minutes, I went back to eat her pussy, and she asked again to be penetrated.
And once again I did it uncovered.[/QUOTE]Okay, Col Bog, so now you're going to die. We're all gonna die anyway.
Nice story!
DB
[QUOTE=Novio] I’m not sure I’d repeat with her since I had better experiences with Bridget and Ericka.[/QUOTE]
So I had to try out Bridget, didn't I?
104 is a strange affair. Its on the west side of K15, with an open mezzanine level. Up the stairs on the corner and you'll see several windows obscured with white to your right. No 9 is actually *behind* the building, so follow the passage to the *left*, ignoring the hawkers. No. 9 is as the far end.
I was led into a room and the mama-san explained the prices and then invited me to choose a girl. All were very acceptable, one was much more so, and then there was Bridget... Stunning. Lovely figure, long legs, largish natural breasts, charming personality, warm smile.
The massage frankly left a bit to be desired, but then she invited me to massage her. That's a first. Then between the breasts to get me hard and between her cute little buttocks too. Condom on with the mouth (or nearly so, anyway. 9/10 for effort, but no woman's ever managed to succeed with that.) Good oral, then finished in the standard sideways across the table manner, that seems to be all the girls' favorite. Only in this case with those long sexy legs over my shoulders.
She took her time cleaning up, no rush, friendly, lots of smiles. She charges more if you want to perform oral on her, and declined to be photographed. Shame, she's a real stunner.
So lukewarm massage, good but not spectacular sex, very friendly personality and 10/10 in the looks dept. Will I be back? Do bears shit in the forest?
[QUOTE=AddictedToWomen]So I had to try out Bridget, didn't I?
I was led into a room and the mama-san explained the prices and then invited me to choose a girl. All were very acceptable, one was much more so, and then there was Bridget... Stunning. Lovely figure, long legs, largish natural breasts, charming personality, warm smile.
The massage frankly left a bit to be desired, but then she invited me to massage her. That's a first. Then between the breasts to get me hard and between her cute little buttocks too. Condom on with the mouth (or nearly so, anyway. 9/10 for effort, but no woman's ever managed to succeed with that.) Good oral, then finished in the standard sideways across the table manner, that seems to be all the girls' favorite. Only in this case with those long sexy legs over my shoulders.
She took her time cleaning up, no rush, friendly, lots of smiles. She charges more if you want to perform oral on her, and declined to be photographed. Shame, she's a real stunner.
So lukewarm massage, good but not spectacular sex, very friendly personality and 10/10 in the looks dept. Will I be back? Do bears shit in the forest?[/QUOTE]
ATW, I'm glad someone else is validating my assessment of Bridget as a real gem. To tell the truth, I'm almost regretting posting about this place since it's so small, what with the two massage cubicles and the girls, there's almost no place left for customers. I'd hate to see it over-run by mongers, leading to possible inflation and competition for girls. As it was, the last time I was there, the girl manning the door had me sit down on the couch next to another monger, and offered both of us magazines while we waited! Just like going to the doctor's office.
I agree that the talent at Abadesa's (#9) is better than their neighbors. In addition to Bridget, a tall, thin brunette named Natalia caught my eye. She gave a better massage than Bridget, and was an equally good actress for GFE for my 60K. When we finished, Bridget saw me leaving and greeted me in a friendly way, so no hard feelings.
Com'mon Dodge
We are all breathlessly awaiting Day #4, and Day #5, and I don't remember if there is a Day #6 or not. We want lurid and sordid details, man. Intimate photos, hot chicas, naked bodies (not necessarily yours though!). Don't let us down. There are those of us that have been trapped here in sex prison for several months and you are our only hope ... our only release ... we aspire to be you.
Ok ... is that whimpering and groveling sufficiently?
TGAM Nog
tgam patient one,
tatiana basically proceeded to appoint herself as social director for the next couple of days. the first item on her agenda: to get my buddy laid.
with his permission, she invited her best friend from casanova’s, ariana.
the four of us had a few drinks in my apartment, and she seemed pleasant enough, so we went to find a restaurant in zona rosa. my friend likes asian, so we ended up there. again.
tatiana was really in her element. she directed traffic, keeping everyone involved in the conversation and making us all laugh with her enthusiasm and sense of humor. when the waiter screwed up on the salads and appetizers, she was very generous in sharing her own salad with the rest of us. a very classy chica.
near the end of dinner, ariana asked tatiana to ask me if my friend was going to keep her for the night. if not, she needed to get to work. she was asking for 500,000 for toda la noche.
he was definitely interested, but not for that much. i told him that i was sure she would take the same price i had originally fixed with tatiana, 200,000 for two hours. so the offer was made, and i told ariana that if she blew him away in bed, perhaps a longer arrangement or repeat performance could be discussed at that time. everything seemed cool.
we had several drinks and more conversation and wandered around a bit before returning to my apartment a little after 1:00 am. that is when all hell broke loose.
ariana decided to push again for 500,000 for tln. i was telling tatiana to stop her or that ariana might blow the entire deal. tatiana was making faces and mouthing that she should shut her boca. my friend excused himself and told me to take care of the problem.
i gave the girls a long explanation what gfe means. talk as little about money as possible. once the deal is cut, gringos are looking for romance and affection. my friend wanted to believe that she liked him, and if she was going to insist on up selling, he would doubt that her performance would be any good. she said she understood and agreed to the original terms.
when i brought my friend back in, he told me he had decided the hell with it. he wasn’t going to spend 200,000 on her if she wanted more. i told him that he would have to take her to her room and tell her this himself.
about 10 minutes later a crying ariana came knocking on my door. my friend had dismissed her and walked away without even giving her taxi fare. she was upset that she had spent five hours with him, had nothing to show for it, and had missed work for the night. tatiana tried to calm her down.
i gave her 20,000 for taxi fare, but it still took 45 minutes to get her out of my room.
once she left, tatiana was all upset, too. she blamed herself for hooking them up and costing her friend a night’s work. she said it was lucky that ariana took it so calmly, as tatiana’s other girlfriend would have killed my friend if he had done this to her.
i held tatiana in my arms and took my time consoling her. it was almost as if we had a fight by proxy, and now it was time to make up. so we experienced none of the negativefeelings towards each other that come from a bad argument, but thoruoghly enjoyed all of the good loving that comes afterwards!
such a long story just to get to these photos for you. you didn’t peek ahead, now did you?
db
Dodger Bulldog,
You seem to be a smart guy, you have a lot of posts to your name and you have written some interesting reports. Although I have only been to Colombia four times (not in Bog), IMHO those girls are not as cute as to command those kind of prices. I understand that you think that you are getting a special GFE from Tatiana...OK. But she really isn´t that cute, and her friend even less so...I would go so far as to say that compared to the average Colombian chica she is not attractive at all. 500,000? I think your friend did the correct thing, although I would maybe have given her taxi fare. Maybe the girls in Bogota are more hard core than in Med and Cali but I think your Tatiana was probably getting a commision for "fixing up" her friend. That´s how it usually works. I´m sure your lecture of how to give GFE service went in one ear and out the other. We americans often tend to be a little "wussy" with the girls without realizing it. Maybe you are being too nice.
I agree with David about Ariana. I've only been to Bogota twice, but 200,000 for TLN with her would appear to be a stretch just based on the photo, even if she does work in Casanova's. 500,000 would be ridiculous. And I'm legendary on the Panama board for overpaying. It sounds like you got 200,000 worth out of Tatiana though. And your traveling companion sounds like an ass.
I'm sure you're having a great time there. Great reports so far. (Nice pics in SR85, btw). I gotta agree with David33 & Tiny12. Please don't take any of this as disrespect.
I truly do understand the concept of more money than time. My trips there are generally 2-4 days. However.........Bogota is one of the cheapest but quality p4p spots in Colombia....if you know what you're doing. LOL!!! COP200.000 for 2 hours with that?
Casanova is a rip-off spot and some of the girls there can be pretty mercenary. COP500.000? Get the fuck outta here. Your friend was more than right to ditch her. Not that your friend hasn't been dead weight on your trip so far, but if a chica dared to ask COP500.000 of one of my friends, her and her friend would be hightailing it to their "job," having being laughed out of wherever the hell we were. And I probably wouldn't have given her cab money either. The nerve of these chicks!!!
You seriously need to check out La Mansion or Juan Pablo's (aka Zhivagos) on 94, if money's no object. At least, the average talent is better than that. Or, go to La 49 and make arrangements with the chicas there for your hotel. Just exchange phone #s. GFE's are pretty easy there, and money doesn't force the issue in either way. Just treat every girl the same, and with a bit of respect. And be sure to command the same respect.
In general, I've TLNed chicas from the Zona Rosa clip spots for between COP80.000-150.000. I've TLNed chicas from Barrio Sante Fe for COP40.000-COP120.000. Of course, price and time is subjective on the chica. Some have stayed until 10am, others until approx. 2pm the next day. But just ask a taxista about TLN prices, a few have told me that I'm being robbed on those prices. A couple offered to negotiate for me, and they could have the difference as a commission. So, trust me, I'm not bragging, I just gotta get better. LOL!!!
If you're gonna spend that kind of money, get quality chicas, looks and attitude!!! It's pretty easy, but it just appears that you're fishing in the wrong pool.
Best of luck!!!
Hey DB ... I dig your reports also, but was that chica really expecting to get 500,000 pesos? Was she serious? Funny ... too funny ... and just from your posted fotos, she's really not that cute.
I think the 200,000 for 2 hours deal is much too high also by the way. Your chica might have a bit of an over bite problem, but great ass in your last foto.
Have fun!
[QUOTE=Hoof Hunter] But just ask a taxista about TLN prices, a few have told me that I'm being robbed on those prices. A couple offered to negotiate for me, and they could have the difference as a commission.[/QUOTE]This idea is certainly intriguing to me, and I want to try it out on my next trip. Thanks man, I love it!
Hey guys, I appreciate your responses and comments. No offense taken at all. In fact, for the most part I agree with what you’ve said!
I have been slowly yet inexorably marching towards making a particular point, which will come later in this post. I realize that I have strung the whole thing out like a novela, but that is part of the fun for me.
First, let me address my friend’s behavior. He knew exactly what Ariana looked like from the moment she came over. He had every opportunity to opt out – immediately, after drinks, before dinner, during the negotiations at dinner, and before returning to the apartment. Nonetheless, he showed interest every step of the way, until it was after 1 AM. So, I do feel some empathy for the girl being hung out to dry.
Although she wanted 500,000, which is unconscionable, she was willing to take 200,000 and that was known all along.
The next day, I told him that Tatiana and I were going out together and he was on his own. He decided to call a chica from Casanova’s that he spent the entire evening buying drinks for on first night that I had met Tatiana. To his credit he called her himself, and tried to talk to her in Spanish. She couldn’t remember who he was, which he chalked up to the language barrier while handing the phone to me.
After just a few words, she asked if I was “the gordito who was with Tatiana.” Yeppers, that would be me, the gordito. Although she had never spoken a word with me previously, my reputation had grown to the point that she knew exactly who I was.
Even though she couldn't remember my friend who had bought her numerous drinks and sat talking with her for hours just a few nights ago...
I think there is a lesson here.
She said it was her night off, but agreed to meet my friend in 30 minutes, for two hours of sex. When I told him, he said that he wanted to go to dinner with her first, so he could judge if she would be a GFE. (As if hours together at the club wasn't good enough.) She said that she was planning to spend the night with her family, but would meet him early for two hours, or after midnight for two hours, but did not want to go to dinner.
He decided that she must not be a GFE, and turned the offer down.
It was then I tried to help him see that he was creating an impossible situation for himself. Just as we are afraid that the chicas won’t give us what we want, they are afraid that we gringos will take advantage of them.
She was offering him two hours out of her night with her family, and he wanted to turn it in to at least four, without any additional compensation. Sure, she would get dinner, but that is not money in her pocket. And she wasn’t really looking for a date that night, like he was. She was sacrificing time she had planned for other things.
Now if she had agreed to dinner, there was no possible upside for her. He wasn't going to pay her any more than if they went straight to bed for two hours, and just maybe he would change his mind. She would be out the time and get nothing in return. That is exactly what had happened to Ariana.
My friend wanted a GFE so badly that he placed demands and set up too many hurdles and tests for the chicas. Then when they became wary and failed his tests, he took that as proof that there was no GFE to be found.
Now, I will agree that Tatiana is not the most beautiful chica in all of Colombia. She should take some of the money I gave her and make a down payment to fix the overbite that Ricker commented on (a couple times), but I doubt if she will. She lives for the moment, and probably does not think much about the future.
Nonetheless, I thought she was cute, and craved her tiny little body. I loved how she moved in on the dance floor, and on top of me in the cama. But most of all, from the moment I laid eyes on her, I saw that everything she did was with good intent. She was driven towards making me want her.
Tatiana was totally focused on attracting my attention, making a connection, winning my affection, and pleasing me to perfection.
How do you put a price on all that?
Now, I have no qualms about a good roll in the sack with numerous chicas for 60,000 or 35,000 or so like I could do down in Centro. But I also love to have a great “simulated relationship” for a few days with a classy chica who especially appeals to me. Since I have vowed to never get involved with another American woman, I seek to experience the emotional highs that I am missing at home by romancing the Latinas who live thousands of miles away from me.
I like to tell my family and friends that it is far better to leave behind a beautiful woman and return home with all the wonderful memories, than it would ever be to return home with a beautiful woman only to leave all the wonderful memories behind….
I sized up Tatiana as someone I could have that kind of “simulated relationship” with for a few days. One who could stir up some strong feelings in me which I could treasure forever.
But of course, she could not possibly have known that at the outset. So I had to invest some cash up front, and make it appear that I was well worth her while, in order to gain the opportunity to show her what could possibly be in store for us over the next few days.
Thus, the overpriced offer (in my eyes, but certainly not hers) of 200,000 for two hours, was to make sure that she saw me as someone worth spending time with.
Next, I spent the first 90 minutes of our two hour encounter focused totally on providing a BFE experience for HER. I oiled her, massaged her, tongue-bathed her, sucked her toes, pampered her body, and made her cum over and over again with the Pocket Rocket.
How many men are willing to give up three-fourths of their allotted time and devote it totally for the pleasure of the chica?
Not many. Not many.
And yet, in return, she rarely left my side over the next three and a half days. Except for four hours each afternoon to go home to see her son, change her clothes, do her hair, and probably stop somewhere to blow the money I had given her, she was at my side 20 hours a day for the rest of my trip.
I had great sex available to me any time I wanted it. And just as important, I had a fun, intelligent, delightful chica to keep me company throughout my stay.
Did I keep paying Tatiana 200,000 for every two hours that we were together? Of course not.
Basically, after the first encounter, I just paid her what I felt like when I felt like it. Sure, I bought the meals and the drinks, but she stayed with me for the rest of the time (probably over 75 hours) for a grand total of 700,000 (which includes the initial 200,000 fee). So this worked out to less than 100,000 for each time that we had sex, with all the rest of our time together just thrown in for gratis.
Oh, I want to tell you about my favorite moment of all: One afternoon I had given Tatiana 20,000 for roundtrip taxi fare home and back. When she returned, she handed me 6000 change.
Such a simple gesture on her part. But it sort of made me feel appreciated and respected. It felt like she cared about me. It was as if Tatiana had reached inside my chest and massaged my heart.
I was touched.
I believe that it is a blessing that I have had the opportunity to live in Latin America for a year, and I found that this BFE method would turn many of the most expensive chicas into freebies for me over time. Even on a short stay, I often turned an expensive chica into a far less expensive one than she ever thought she would be.
So, throughout these missives, I have tried to compare and contrast my friend’s approach to securing GFE through his high expectations, unrelenting standards, and unyielding demands, all of which only kept him from ever getting laid, to my own softer approach.
I claim no genius; it is just that I had the opportunity to learn what works, at least for me, through trial and error while living in the midst of chicas.
I’ll sum it up, step by step:
1. I always want to remember that attitude is far more important than looks.
2. Invest some decent cash up front to gain her interest.
3. I always put her physical needs before my own. Pamper her in that way.
4. Make everything fun, fun, fun.
5. I strive to make the chica feel that she is incredibly special to me, so that in turn, I become even more special to her.
6. Be ye DIFFERENT than all other gringos!
7. Then reap the rewards of free or reduced price sex and companionship, which just might turn into a true GFE experience. Because you've EARNED it.
DB
Hey DB ... great words of wisdom.
Your game plan defintiely is derived from experience.
I know you can can kick a chica out when needed also. I've seen you in actin in Medellin :)
Actually, you're absolutely correcto as far as a chica's looks go also.
As long as she makes you happy and feel good, who cares what anyone else's opinion is.
I'll take a chica with an attitude of 10 and looks in the 7-8 range over a solid 9-10 with a crappy attiude anyday.
Great reports!
Taker easy amigo!
Every time I read a post like D.B.´s latest, I become more grateful than ever that I bailed out of Sex Prison U.S.A. after University graduation. I think the most important line of the post is “the gordito who was taking care of Tatiana.” If I were D.B., I wouldn´t take that as a compliment...and I´m not talking about the "gordito" part. I am willing to bet that her comments to the rest of the putas haven´t been; "I love the way he eats my pussy and makes me cum. He isn´t like these macho Colombians who don´t care about my feelings" etc. They are probably more along the line of how much she is getting out of him, and no doubt she has inflated the cuantities, ergo the 500,000 that the ugly friend was trying to get out of the buddy.
The post makes me recall a visitor to Peru of a few years ago. The guy was around 60 and had been divorced like 20 years earlier. Since I am a nice guy, I helped him out with some advice about Peruvian mongering venues and alternatives. The guy looks me in the eye and says "you know, the sex isn´t that important to me, I just want a girl to hold me." The guy hadn´t had any affection in more than 20 years!
This search for the GFE seems to be more an American monger thing, correct me if I´m wrong. Probably has something to do with the treatment received back home. (Maybe this should be in the American Woman thread). But I don´t think that D.B.´s buddy will get it by inviting the girls to dinner. I think that this comes after a normal fuckee fuckee suckee suckee encounter. If you get along well with the girl, you invite her to go get something to eat. You can´t buy the GFE offering a dinner and more bucks. But that´s just IMHO.
I think Hoof Hunter is correct when he said that you guys are looking in the wrong places. The friend should have done the amigos.com thing before the trip. He would have found plenty of girls to go out to dinner with him (like on a real date!!!!), and maybe even have gotten laid.
David: I do not think it is JUST Americans who seek GFE. Certainly Anglo punters place greater weight on that than most Latin or Asian punters, myself included, but Canadians, Brits, Ozzies etc. also reside among the femanazi manhaters.
HH: As you note, Casanova's is a gringo fleece joint, as are most gringo oriented places. I always had great luck at La 49 but it is NOT particularly gringo friendly (NOT unfriendly, but 90%+ of patrons are Colombianos). It is NOT geared towards guys going alone (you must buy an entire bottle of spirits as they do not sell just one drink except beer). It is also NOT an area to walk around at night, unlike the area near Casanova's (in the 80s) which is much safer.
200,000 CP is $90. For 2 hours??????????? I have never paid 200K in Colombia for LT, let alone ST.
Dodger, I tend to take your approach sometimes. There are people here, including Jackson, who argue it's better to negotiate hard. Not only will you save money, but the women will respect you more and give better service. I think there's some wisdom to that view if the date is 100% a business transaction, or if you're looking for a porn star experience instead of GFE. The thing about some of the Colombian hookers is that either consciously or subconsciously, they consider you to be more than a single business transaction -- maybe someone they may see repeatedly, or after a few dates even a potential boyfriend or husband. The fact that you're initially paying her more than she deserves indicates you're generous, which is something that women are programmed to prefer, by genetics & evolution. If she knows that you know you're overpaying, it may make her feel special. Of course it could also make her think you're a chump.
David, I think you're right, that U.S. mongers do tend to value the GFE more. I'd argue that while impersonal sex with a hottie is nice sometimes, other times masturbation is a more meaningful and cost-effective experience.
While I was flying over Bogota and had to see what it was all about. I saw alot of my Peru friends here and just wanted to chime in.
Nice last report DB and I would pay an extra 100k to keep that pillow over her head like in the last photo!
Suerte,
LB
It´s interesting that Surfer put in his two cents. I was going to mention in my post that he is the king of getting GFE, but thought that he might have felt embarrassed since he is such a modest individual. All the girls end up loving him. He even shows up with little presents and pocket rockets.
I am hardly the "King" of GFE, although I aspire to that title. Treating hookers like princesses works wonders (although, as antifreeze likes to say, "ScrewedUp treats princesses like hookers and he ALSO gets GFE").
Overpaying ON FIRST session is a HORRIBLE idea because you set a standard, a base so to speak, for future encounters. Better to give a fair wage (but you MUST know the local market!), then suggest that you will repeat with her if the session goes well. Offering gifts or tips as incentives for good performance also helps. Capitalism WORKS (despite what Alan Garcia might say LOL!)
[QUOTE=Surfer]I am hardly the "King" of GFE, although I aspire to that title. Treating hookers like princesses works wonders (although, as antifreeze likes to say, "ScrewedUp treats princesses like hookers and he ALSO gets GFE").
Overpaying ON FIRST session is a HORRIBLE idea because you set a standard, a base so to speak, for future encounters. Better to give a fair wage (but you MUST know the local market!), then suggest that you will repeat with her if the session goes well. Offering gifts or tips as incentives for good performance also helps. Capitalism WORKS (despite what Alan Garcia might say LOL!)[/QUOTE]
Surfer,
For your 1,000th post I would have expected something more inspiring (or at least a photo)!
LB
The guy lays out a perfect gameplan that you can follow to get a great girl to hang out with you for a few days in a row at a rate cheaper than three or four regular LT sesions. To me, that is valuable advice. At the very least, it gives you another negotiating tactic to use when you find someone to have a GFE session or sessions with. We don't have that type of option in that states.
As far as her looks, to each their own. I would much prefer a solid 7 or 8 with great skills and personality as opposed to a 9 or 10 that was simply business like. That being said, I think his girl is very attractive, with a great body and if you throw in a great personality it's all for the better.
Anyway, that's just my .02.
I´ve been here a week.
Not a bad city, too much traffic polution, but not bad at all.
Hello to Ricker, Chewbacca, Soorfer and all the experts.
Quick update on the scene.
At the places I will mention, no one speaks english. And you gotta play it smart.
Charlotte´s Bar doesn´t exist anymore.
Most people I talked to prefer El Castillo. It is a place that has the feel of a regular nightclub.
Acapulco Modelos is a decent choice for a massage place.
ACAPULCO MODELOS CLUB
Cr 16 64-23
COLOMBIA - Distrito Capital, Bogotá
Telefonos: (57)(1)3463888
Oz is a tiny stripjoint in a somewhat sketchy part of town. It was mentioned in the book, Bogota Bizarra. Girls dance naked and sometimes have sex on stage with a lucky young man.
OZ 74
Cll. 74 No. 16 – 79 Tel: 2173438
Lunes a sábado de 3 pm a 2 am
I didnt like Iwha for the reasons expressed in other posts.
two more weeks to go.
ferolga
Barefoot,
I just want to make sure that you are aware that the two bedroom apartment has one of the rooms with two singles beds, not a double.
I called to make a reservation there two months early, and called to confirm one week before arrival. They had lost it.
So I made another reservation, but when I arrived they said they had no reservation.
It didn't matter because they had plenty of rooms available. But I just wanted to alert you to that possibility.
Overall, it was a nice place, good breakfast, good location. ATM machines and a supermarket around the corner, and just a short walk to Zona Rosa.
I would stay there again.
DB
Iwha is an expensive house near Parque 93. I didn´t think it was a good place.
And good luck with your tennis and golf.
Suerte, amigo.
Here is a link to a great place I stay. LOcated in the La Cabrerra area in the Zona Rosa. High Sercurity Building..very luxory accomdiations and no problem with ladies going there. It is a nice place that can remain grat for those that like nice things. Excellent location:
link: [url]http://www.vrbo.com/61021[/url]
Does anyone have any experience with the Crowne Plaza? I have never stayed there and was wondering if it is in a decent location. Also, if anyone has information on high end models, I would be happy to trade for info from other countries.
D
Barefut,
Who is that girl in pink?
Any contact # for her?
The one in Pink ? Heck I'd take anyone of them !
I have stayed at the Crowne Plaza hotel and it's location is more than decent. I think you'll really like it. When are you planning on going? PM me and I'd be happy to give you some info on models there. I'd be looking for the same info in Brazil if you have it. Happy hunting.
[QUOTE=Dougus]Does anyone have any experience with the Crowne Plaza? I have never stayed there and was wondering if it is in a decent location. Also, if anyone has information on high end models, I would be happy to trade for info from other countries.
D[/QUOTE]
Hey Guys. Fisrt post ever from me. Very nice, congratulations.
I saw the reviews on Bridget (whose name, btw, is Brigith, but it sound a lot like Bridget), and I was very anxious to meet her with all the good opinions in here. I called before, to make sure she was present and available. I was at this massage parlor previously, but they didn't have the nice girls they have right now, Brigith being the most atractive.
You were right about everything, great looks, nice chatting, very seet and tender, doesn't say no constantly, so that's a plus. And it's all true about the place, uncomfortable and privacy deficient. But, Brigith was worth the trouble. I think I till take her out some time to a hotel. That fine piece of ass has to be enjoyed in a better enviroment.
Cheers
[QUOTE=AddictedToWomen]So I had to try out Bridget, didn't I?
...
So lukewarm massage, good but not spectacular sex, very friendly personality and 10/10 in the looks dept. Will I be back? Do bears shit in the forest?[/QUOTE]
Can someone pls give me a quick resume. As to where I should stay in Bogota. See and get action. Remain safe and secure while there. I speak no Spanish so would appreciate some assistance with where I should go or meet where they speak English (learning Spanish! ) I promise to write up report. I will be flying into to Aruba and then onto Panama via Bogota. I will also be writing up about Panana. Pls advise as It will be first time in Colombia and I am a keen to monger. I'm planning the trip end of Feb and will be travelling to and fro over 7-8 days. Cheers.
Well, I've been good and pussy whipped for a long while, but my gf and I went out last Thursday and wound up having quite a wild time, so I thought I'd share the experience with you.
We had been curious about stopping in at Oz, the strip club on 74th right near Av Caracas recently mentioned here. We had previously tried to get into ADN with the idea of simply watching the action and maybe being a little bit exhibitionistic, but got refused admission, which left a bad taste in our mouths. Oz however was a different story.
Oz is to the stripclub experience like riding one of those busetas in Bogota is to transportation. It's real small in there and it gets PACKED. You have to climb all over the place to get to your seat, to and from the bathroom, crossing the stage with the girls dancing in the process. It gets more challenging as you go on and get more and more liquored :P But the vibe in this place is EXCELLENT.
Cover was 10k each. We got in just before 11pm, plenty of time to still get a good seat. There are two tiered rows of seating around the stage, obviously you're much better off sitting on the first tier. They have a bar around the stage, but girls are frequently strutting on it, so they also have a shelf to put your drinks under it. CAUTION, remember to WATCH YOUR DRINKS here and anywhere else in South America. DONT EVER WALK AWAY FROM A DRINK AND THEN GO BACK TO IT!
Staff was friendly and attentive. Interestingly enough, a 1/2 bottle of Viejo de Caldas (local rum) cost us 50k and a whole bottle would simply have cost us the double. Most prices on the menu were like this so keep that in mind when ordering. 50k will hardly break most people here but if you wanna keep it cheaper you can order beer or even soda.
There was just about 1 girl per guy the whole time we were there. There were all shapes and sizes and colors of girls, but my gf really would have preferred more bigger-breasted women, I'm not a tit man so I really didn't care. there was a black girl, a couple caramel colored ones, a Paisa spinner, an older but sexy looking girl, etc. Girls dance in turns and change up every few songs just like a US style bar. At the end of their set they are completely naked except for their shoes. A 1k or 2k bill tip will get you a cheap thrill usually, depending on the girl, just like up in NYC. People were not tipping heavily though.
My gf of course got a LOT of interest from the dancers. Pretty soon she was being dragged up on stage, kissed, fondled and undressed. A couple minutes later they got me up and started doing the same thing. They had me naked with my pants around my anklesand my money belt in the corner, and my gf down to her panties. We fooled around for several minutes. I couldn't for the life of me get hard, between the rum and the lights and the punishingly loud music and the crowd and the girls constantly smacking my ass HARD. Oh yes, and the artificial snow machine, no I'm not kidding, they have a snow machine.
Anyways, for being such good sports the house gave us another bottle of rum on them, and told us if we wanted a private show the room downstairs would also be on them. Because of this I dunno how much they charge normally for it, maybe someone else can provide this data.
We really wanted to watch the lesbian show and do the private after. So we continue drinking and grabbing the girls as they dance by us for the next hour and a bit.
The lesbian show finally starts, and it's actually real good, even by my standards, the girls kiss, touch, really lick each other, they were pouring beer on each other, licking it off, they got out a double headed dildo and did several positions with it.
As another poster points out they apparently have a custom of picking an audience member to include in the show, well this night it happened to be my gf. At this point the dutch courage kicked in and ALL her clothes came off. She was absolutely driven wild by the two girls, and came twice HARD. I was playing with her and the girls the whole time. A guy politely asked if he could touch her but I didn't think it would be a good idea. I wouldn't have minded, but I know her very well and I could tell she was already at her limit.
After the show we wanted to get one of the girls in the show for the VIP experience, a gorgeous tall fairly voluptuous girl with long long straight dark hair. So we go downstairs and hang out there while the private room gets made ready. Downstairs they have a bar as well but it's more intimate and there are no shows. Finally they let us in, and we have to tip the guy 10k pesos. We also are told we have to pay the girl over and above for her services. We get in the room and start fooling around waiting for the girl to show up.
Finally the guy comes in apologizing saying that somebody had paid the bar fine for the girl to leave the place and spend the night with him the same time we had requested the girl, and she was no longer available. We asked for the other girl who had been in the show, a real skinny morenita. She came in 2 minutes later.
There was a sign on the wall warning that condoms must be used at all times by a city ordinance. Remember, with the proper license, even operating a brothel is perfectly legal in Colombia. The weird part is that the girl comes in, claiming she can only do a dancing show for us and nothing more. So we tell her we have 50k for her and she changes her story, says no problem but don't tell managment or they will kill her. Like I said, weird, doesn't jive with the sign on the wall. But full service is DEFINITELY available at this joint, contrary to what someone just posted here. Anyways the girl didn't have any condoms and neither did we, but we didn't need to do anything that involved condoms. My gf actually wanted to watch me fucking her but I guess this way we have at least something saved for next time :P
The girl was very cooperative, the only thing she wouldn't do is DFK with me (but with my gf it was CON GUSTO). My gf wanted to lick her to orgasm, and she complied. No faking there folks!! I also got to taste her, pussy and ass, while the two girls made out. I came all over both of them. She thanked us and left, that was it.
We went back up to the bar area and the place had almost cleared out. I guess after the lesbian show everybody kinda pairs off and the guys pay the bar fines for the girls and take em off to the motels. So I guess that while services are available on premises, people treat it more as a take-out joint, which could explain the previous poster's confusion.
Total cash layout was somewhere between 140k and 150k pesos for all that, for both of us, all the stage action, the liquor, cover charge, EVERYTHING. And we were there partying hard for over 4 hours! Everybody there was super cool, the other customers, the staff, the girls, definitely worth a repeat experience. Of course YMMV. I can't stress this enough if you go to Colombia LEARN FUCKING SPANISH. I guarantee you you won't regret it!
It is funny to read about that girl. I met her 2 years ago in Cartagena. She is from Barranquilla.
Meanwhile she told me that she lives in Bogota with her parents and she is not in the game anymore, she is a student now. Maybe even a student needs some extra cash....
I posted this on the SJO forum as well (not sure if I'm allowed to do that) but thought that each forum might be able to give independent insight..
Just seeking humble advice -
Some time opened up (5 nights) and trying to decide between SJO and Bogota.
I've been to SJO once and sort of liked the Del Rey scene, I know a lot of board-members don't, however I do. I prefer a city where I can duck in for a short time in the afternoon, and then have my (easy) pick from pros in the evening while drinking a few beers and chilling out. Shows are always a plus as well.
I was hot for Bogota (a new place for me) but then read on the board that it's quite difficult to get bbbj there - which put me off a bit.
I also quite like the seedy scene - a brothel along the lines of Rio's Villa Mimosa or a few in Asia would be perfect, but I gather neither of these cities offer exactly that.
GFE is not required as I have one at home. The flight times and cost are about the same.
The problem is I have to decide today, and buy the ticket - so any advice appreciated. I'll be more than happy to post the trip report.
Thanks
As far as SJO verus BOG, you have two different environments. I won't go into SJO since you have already been there. BOG is more BIG city. You will find that everthing is not in one place like the gulch in SJO. Having said that, you will have to keep aware of your surroundings because few gringos go to BOG like they go to SJO. As far as BBBJ goes it is all about how you ask. The Colombianas in SJO tend to be more biz and less attention to you. You will find that Colombianas in BOG are more romantic and open to making you happy. There are some all Biz pro's, but that is to be expected everywhere. Just be upfront on what you want and be direct. They love that we treat them better, but they want a MAN, not a jump on top monger. I hope that helps since I love the place.
Hey there guys. I hope you guys can help me. I will have a 10 hour layover in Bogota on a saturday night arriving about 930pm. What I am looking for is the best strip club/casa that I can find that is obviously not too far from the Airport and maybe even a very cheep hotel where I can freshen up at and store my bags and passport before going for a quick power mongering evening. What I would hope for is an area with quite a few clubs similar to Tijuana mx in the same area near said cheap hotel.(40k-60k pesos/night). I am not really afraid of most areas(extensive mongering in Mexico), so a little so called "dangerous" areas is not a problem. I am 6 foot 240 with long black hair and dark complected with tatoos and I speak spanish like native colombians(no gringo accent). I actually think I scare most of them. jejeje. Or would you guys recommend me getting a guide for a few hours? and if so, who?. thanks for any help
Al
[QUOTE=Barefoot Chap]Hello, I just tried to book an apartment at suites real 85 and they had nothing for my travel dates. They referred me to suites real 97 and I made a reservation. They didn't charge me anything for the reservation so I can cancel without any penalties. Does anyone have any info on 97 and does anyone recommend another place? Thanks, I leave in 3 weeks.[/QUOTE]
What info do you need to know?
It's located approx. 4-5 blocks from Parque 93. Everything you get at Suites Real 85, you'll get there. I believe it's cheaper too. Neither property does advance deposits, nor cancellation penalty. Both are very G/F without additional fees. Both have free wireless internet in each room. Within walking distance are ATMs, a supermarket, and many restaurants/bars/discos. Safe neighborhood. At night, if you feel the need for the extra security, have them call you a taxi.
Hope that answers what you might be thinking.
thoughts on bogota
now that i’ve been back for two weeks, i believe i can adequately reflect on my trip. i booked a trip flying delta atl-bog, avianca bog-clo, and continental clo-iah. i would be spending 7 nights in bogota and 4 in cali. i must say that i didn’t spend the majority of it mongering as i had friends in bogota (that i made on my first and prior trip to bog a year ago), but i did get a taste of it. in retrospect, i should have tried to seek it out more.
i arrived at bog at 11pm (delayed 2 hours because of mechanical reasons). taxi to suites real 85 was 18500 cop. i had booked a one week stay with suites real 85 to get the week discount.
my overall stay was very good. i really like the place and it felt really familiar as i had stayed their last time and i recognize the 2 older ladies and all the security guards from last year. the 2 older ladies (and everyone else) are always very helpful in regarding directions, etc (this time i didn’t really need much as i had already seen most of the tourist sites and am familiar with the buses/busetas/transmilenio now).
prices at sr85 and likely sr97 go up every year on the 1st of january. so although i made my reservation in september, the prices are not guaranteed. last year it was 695k for a 1bd apt whether it was 1 or 2 people, now it is 820k and 895k, respectively. oh well, 125k can go a long way in colombia.
they now have wireless internet (802.11b). speeds were actually reasonable, however they will be times (multiple times a day sometimes) where you can connect, but you will not get access. i assume it is a problem with their isp. they always included breakfast, but now you can get continental or americano breakfast (didn’t know that until the last day). the difference is that continental had bread and the americano had eggs. before they charged 2k or something for the upgrade to americano. they seemed to have also fixed the water pressure problem. last year, as you stayed on a higher floor, the water pressure would get dramatically worse. i stayed on the 5th floor this year and it was fine. maid service was great. no security concerns in a great area of bogota. i didn’t have anything stolen (i had a laptop). i didn’t bring any girls back to see if i can bypass the chica fee. i did have 4 friends come over my room at 1am to have drinks, and there were no problems.
i arrived on a wednesday night and i didn’t get my first chance at mongering until monday afternoon. from sr85, i hopped on one of those busetas (1000cop) on carrerra 15 and got off at calle 104ish. i visited the #9 massage parlour on calle 104 and carrerra 15. this is the place that is a kitty corner from dann carlton, 2nd floor mezzanine, and towards the back. usually there is a guy standing there before you make the turn. #9 's phone numbers are 215 4518, 620 9358, 311 214 8104. hours are m-sat 930a-830p, sun 10a-6p. prices are 60k for 1 hour, including massage, hj, cbj, and intercourse. there are other options for less time and less service at 25k, 35k and 45k.
i passed the #6 massage parlour and went straight to the #9 one. i was brought into one of the two cubicles by one of the girls (no there is no mamasan). there were about 4 girls there total. and i picked bridget (as have many isg members before me) for the 60k option (one has to pay upfront). she is 23 (maybe 24) and should had really full lips (on her face). she had fair skinned and her hair was dyed to a dirty blond color. she is about 5’7” tall and had an above average physique; average sized perky butt with b breasts. she was definitely the most attractive one of the four.
the back massage portion was average, but she took her time. she allowed me to feel her legs/butt. she flipped me over and put lube between her breasts and on my penis. i definitely was rock hard and enjoying the experience. after 1-2 minutes, she asked me to get up and she put my penis along the crack of her butt and that felt wonderful. approximately 2 minutes of this she started a cbj with her squatting down (she allowed me to use the inspiral condom i brought). it was an okay cbj, but her large eyes gazing at me made it fairly memorable.
after 2 minutes of this, she asked if i was ready and i sure was. she sat onto the table and had me enter her. this wasn’t the most comfortable as i wasn’t tall enough (i had to be on tippy toes at times. but she felt wonderful. she allowed me to kiss her on lips. i was about to blow my load really quick and i pulled out. i explained to her that she i didn’t want to come so quickly, and she was very accommodating. she said that she wanted me to be comfortable and that this is my time. she said that we’ll do it slower. and we did. she didn’t thrust too hard and just moved/gyrated to my slow motions. we did it in doggie and finished with cowgirl (she this thrust harder as i told her that i was going to come).
she cleaned me up by taking off the condom and using that alcohol spray. she wiped off the majority of the oil from my back and welcomed me to come back. the session took approx 45-50 minutes and i was very satisfied. i would have happily repeat/come back if i had more time in bogota.
some other reflections on the k104/c15 place: i thought the place was safe. i had the outer room which is well lit (good and bad). part of the wall is a partially opaque/frosted plastic thing that let in plenty of light, but you can see the shadow of people coming in to the parlour. you can hear the other girls talking outside and probably the other couple in the inner room (these are essentially cubicles).
i think it is interesting/different that the girls will just come into the room and mumble their name, shake your hand (no kiss on cheek), and run out. this is obviously differerent than argentina, where they will say their name clear/sultrily and give you a kiss on the cheek in hopes that you will pick them.
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the next afternoon, i decided to try out abado massage, carrera 15 # 116-59, apt 203 (same method of taking the 1-1.2k cop busetas). i walked up the stairs, and saw a seemingly legitimate store on the immediate left. then on the right is the cardboard sign saying (apt 203). i saw a few girls sitting on couches and i was direct to the room across the hall. i was brought into the room and introduced to about 8 girls (again in that apathetic manner of them rushing into the room (sometimes just peeping their head in), shaking your hand and then mumbling their names.
the choices weren’t particularly fantastic, but all doable. because i didn’t see any obviously choice, i chose vicky (also from recommendations from other isg members) for the 60k, 40 minute option including fs. fair skin, average physique, straight black hair. her parents are paisa, but she grew up in bogota.
massage was average. she is very health conscious as other have described before. she wiped my penis down with a baby wipe. they put on an “average/standard” colombian condom for the cbj. it was also average, but it was great looking at her eyes/face while she blew me. she did put it between her size b breasts for a little bit, too. she sat me up and pushed her butt into me so that my penis is between her legs. she massaged my penis while i simulated doing her doggie style. i enjoyed the mirrors that they had positioned so i can look at her front side while i was behind her with my hands around her breasts.
she then took the regular latex condom off and they put the saranwrap type condom other isg members described. ([url]http://www.natural-sensation.com.co/natural/unisex.htm[/url]). it was one of the most natural condoms i have ever used. i was so impressed, that i went out and purchased 11 packs (each card/pack comes with 3) of it at drugstore (they were very hard to find and most place didn’t have it. i asked about 10 drugstores before one had it available, and i bought all of it. they are about 4300 cop per package).
anyways, we did it in doggie, missionary and finished with cowgirl. she was very accommodating to positional changes and went slowly as i requested (with the different condom, i really didn’t feel that condom at all, and it isn’t latex so there is much heat transmission). sex was okay, but i think the whole experience was augmented by the new condom. if i return, i don't think i would repeat with vicky.
we chatted afterwards for about 10 minutes while she cleaned me up. she told me that there are a total of 4 rooms and the 2 room in “apt 203” is currently closed for renovation. the hours of operation are very similar to the c104, k15, but i think this starts up at 10am.
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i’m sorry that i don’t have more mongering experiences to report to you from this trip. i didn’t get a chance to go back to barrio santafe, as i had dinner plans most nights with friends. i didn’t want to get there too late (midnight), because of safety reasons. i was there last year walking around from 3pm-9pm (taking a girl at piscina for 60k (50k for girl, 10k for room) and a girl at paisa bar for 25k (20k for girl, 5k for room). barrio sf gets going after 9pm, and i kept trying to plan to go between 9-12am, but i just didn’t have the opportunity. in retrospect, i had much better experiences at the massage parlours than at barrior sf. however, i did like the seedy aspects and how you get a quick/cheap lay for 25k and beers at 2k.
tourist site musts (i did all this last time): 1) monserrate/candelaria, 2) museo de oro, 3) catedral de sal in zipa, 4) casa de moneda for the botero exposicion (esp if you like/are into art).
highly recommended restaurants 1) andres carne de res 2) casa vieja 3) any of the two restaurants on top of monserrate
if you know people there, ask them to take you to andres on a saturday night. i was there on this trip from 10pm-4am and it was absolutely amazing. it was the highlight of my trip and simply one of the greatest/most fun experience from what i remember (and i remember most of the night). there were beautiful women, people dancing, great food and drinks. it is expensive (for colombian standards), but cheap for americans (i paid half the food/drink bill for the 5 of us, and it came to 110k (less than $50usd).
after a week of drinking, partying, eating, and minimal p4p, i’m off to cali.
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I knew it couldn't be "Bridget", but couldn't figure out what is really was for the life of me! Thanks for straightening that out :)
I would agree she needs enjoying off-site, but she wasn't keen on doing photos and I'd rather reserve that treat for a hotty who is.
Hope you told her you visited her on recomendation! I did and she seemed to get a real kick out of it :)
[QUOTE=Ric Rod03]Hey Guys. Fisrt post ever from me. Very nice, congratulations.
I saw the reviews on Bridget (whose name, btw, is Brigith, but it sound a lot like Bridget), and I was very anxious to meet her with all the good opinions in here. I called before, to make sure she was present and available. I was at this massage parlor previously, but they didn't have the nice girls they have right now, Brigith being the most atractive.
You were right about everything, great looks, nice chatting, very seet and tender, doesn't say no constantly, so that's a plus. And it's all true about the place, uncomfortable and privacy deficient. But, Brigith was worth the trouble. I think I till take her out some time to a hotel. That fine piece of ass has to be enjoyed in a better enviroment.
Cheers[/QUOTE]
There's a few places on 26 midway between town and the airport, but anywhere where you can leave your pp, and still have it waiting when you return, ain't going to be cheap.
If you just want to shower your best bet might be to call into one of the motels just down from the airport and tell them you want to hire a hoom just for an hour to fresehen up. At 10pm they're probably still quiet so it would make sense for 'em. Even if they insisted on the full 12 hour rate it might still be ok.
Check out the Lists board for the addresses of action in Bogotá, though Oz (posted a few messages back) sounds like the business to me.
[QUOTE=Belldude2]Hey there guys. I hope you guys can help me. I will have a 10 hour layover in Bogota on a saturday night arriving about 930pm. What I am looking for is the best strip club/casa that I can find that is obviously not too far from the Airport and maybe even a very cheep hotel where I can freshen up at and store my bags and passport before going for a quick power mongering evening. What I would hope for is an area with quite a few clubs similar to Tijuana mx in the same area near said cheap hotel.(40k-60k pesos/night). I am not really afraid of most areas(extensive mongering in Mexico), so a little so called "dangerous" areas is not a problem. I am 6 foot 240 with long black hair and dark complected with tatoos and I speak spanish like native colombians(no gringo accent). I actually think I scare most of them. jejeje. Or would you guys recommend me getting a guide for a few hours? and if so, who?. thanks for any help
Al[/QUOTE]
ATM. Thanks man. I appreciate it.
Dammit! I should have never posted about Bridget/Bridgith. Now there will be a string of gringos ruining her and the place, and I'll have to find another chica/mp! (Guys, never believe what you read on the Internet. LOL.)
[QUOTE=Team Stream]Thoughts on Bogota
I arrived on a Wednesday night and I didn’t get my first chance at mongering until Monday afternoon. From SR85, I hopped on one of those busetas (1000COP) on Carrerra 15 and got off at Calle 104ish. I visited the #9 massage parlour on Calle 104 and Carrerra 15. This is the place that is a kitty corner from Dann Carlton, 2nd floor mezzanine, and towards the back. Usually there is a guy standing there before you make the turn. #9 's phone numbers are 215 4518, 620 9358, 311 214 8104. Hours are M-Sat 930a-830p, Sun 10a-6p. Prices are 60k for 1 hour, including massage, HJ, CBJ, and intercourse. There are other options for less time and less service at 25k, 35k and 45k.
I passed the #6 massage parlour and went straight to the #9 one. I was brought into one of the TWO cubicles by one of the girls (no there is no mamasan). There were about 4 girls there total. And I picked Bridget (as have many ISG members before me) for the 60k option (one has to pay upfront). She is 23 (maybe 24) and should had really full lips (on her face). She had fair skinned and her hair was dyed to a dirty blond color. She is about 5’7” tall and had an above average physique; average sized perky butt with B breasts. She was definitely the most attractive one of the four.
The back massage portion was average, but she took her time. She allowed me to feel her legs/butt. She flipped me over and put lube between her breasts and on my penis. I definitely was rock hard and enjoying the experience. After 1-2 minutes, she asked me to get up and she put my penis along the crack of her butt and that felt wonderful. Approximately 2 minutes of this she started a CBJ with her squatting down (she allowed me to use the Inspiral condom I brought). It was an okay CBJ, but her large eyes gazing at me made it fairly memorable.
After 2 minutes of this, she asked if I was ready and I sure was. She sat onto the table and had me enter her. This wasn’t the most comfortable as I wasn’t tall enough (I had to be on tippy toes at times. But she felt wonderful. She allowed me to kiss her on lips. I was about to blow my load really quick and I pulled out. I explained to her that she I didn’t want to come so quickly, and she was VERY accommodating. She said that she wanted me to be comfortable and that this is my time. She said that we’ll do it slower. And we did. She didn’t thrust too hard and just moved/gyrated to my slow motions. We did it in doggie and finished with cowgirl (she this thrust harder as I told her that I was going to come).
She cleaned me up by taking off the condom and using that alcohol spray. She wiped off the majority of the oil from my back and welcomed me to come back. The session took approx 45-50 minutes and I was very satisfied. I would have happily come back if I had more time in Bogota.
[QUOTE=AddictedToWomen]I knew it couldn't be "Bridget", but couldn't figure out what is really was for the life of me! Thanks for straightening that out :)
I would agree she needs enjoying off-site, but she wasn't keen on doing photos and I'd rather reserve that treat for a hotty who is.
Hope you told her you visited her on recomendation! I did and she seemed to get a real kick out of it :)[/QUOTE]
I told Bridget that I am visiting her on recommendation of a good friend. She definiately was flattered.
Also, as I was getting dressed after our session, the girls outside told her that another customer was waiting for her (specifically asked for her by name) after she was done with me. It seems that she is very popular.
I am in the same situation. I need a hotel close to the airport, not too spendy, for one night, without extra charging for bringing a girl back.
Please help.
I will be there in 48 hours.
just wondering if this hotel is still girl friendly?
thanks
[quote=gringo mojado]it has a great location. rooms are comfortable and similar in size and configuration as an embassy suites in the us . suite real 85 is five minutes to abejitas zona rosa (directions below). the hotel is girl friendly (they ring you up when she arrives and they check the girl's docs to insure safety). suites real 85 has an independent driver (jose?)who can to pick you up at the airport on your arrival upon request, and take you around during your visit (highly recommend it) although don't expect much info from him on girls except perhaps the location of places such as piscina. the hotel is walking distance to two shopping centers with movie theaters, and restaurants.
you will be close to the zona rosa where there is a pedestrian street with many bars and restaurants (very active on thrusday through saturdays).
directions to abejitas from suites real 85 (it's about an 8 minutes walk): as you come out of the hotel walk to the right towards the large avenue there you take a right. then you walk until you see the carulla supermarket on the right side of the road (about four minute walk - carulla is open 24 hours and it is a great place to stock your room's mini fridge). take a right onto the street just past the carulla immediately crossing the street then take the first street on the left. on this street you will walk to short blocks and take a right onto the second street; there walk less than a block. enter the open door and climb stairs. (there is a small sign at the window which i think reads "masajes or therapistas".[/quote]
Bogota--Dancing with the devil under the pale moonlight
Well, I tried to stay away from the strip clubs. I tried to go see a play. Very cultural of me. God knows I tried. But the theater was closed and there was no show today.
So I went to different stripclubs. And then ended up at Chanteclaire again. I was hoping my crazy friend would not be there. But she was. And I bought her another pint of rum. Again, make out sessions redux.
She danced wearing a white babydoll. She was very energetic. During her dance ten MP´s ( as in "Military Police"; not as in "Massage Parlors") walked in. There jaws dropped to the floor as they watched her dance sexily. She was so sexy that I decided to help her make some money so she could send it to her momma.
I agreed to go to a room. But this time it was my rules. I had her lie on the bed in her lingerie. I procededed to manually stimulate her. My finger delighted to the touch of the lovely textures inside her womanhood. So that is what bareback would feel like! Me would like that. She was wetter than rain. She had a big O.
"It´s your turn lover. I want you inside me. " she said.
I said, "I´m sorry sweetie, but, today you make your money the easy way."
I put on a glove and lubricated it. I had her stand up and hug me. After I finished in the grandest Onanistic fashion --combined with Taoist conservation of lifeforce-- I wished her good luck in Barranquilla. She is headed there to ply her trade.
I will probably not set foot in Chanteclaire again.
Colombia Bogota-- Oz 74--Who´d want to go back to Kansas?
Plenty of sleep keeps you from getting sick, so, I decided to sleep from 4 to seven and then catch a play followed by a tour of different joints.
Woke up at eight thirty. The play was out. So I went to Pussy House. The joint had fewer girls than the night before, which puzzled me. A Thurday night ought to be better than a Wednesday night. I aid the 3 thousand peso cover and settled down with a bottle of water.
After a fairly long wait, one girl --a slim, petite brunnette with silky, long hair, small breasts and a snake tattoo covering two thirds of her right calf, came on stage to dance and strip.
When she had disrobed completely, she asked every single customer around the runway to have sex with her. It was tempting to get on stage and have sick, public sex for a three thousand peso fee. But like Seinfeld said, that would make me orgy guy, and I am not ready to embrace the lifestyle.
Finally a "macho, macho man" answered the challenge. He took off all his clothes and got on stage. Snake-tattoo-girl put a condom on his soft boy and sucked it to a semi-erection. It took a good fifteen minutes of tugging and pulling and bouncing and slapping and turning and ramming --if pushing in three inches of shy flesh can be called "ramming"-- for the skinny Colombian horndog to finally yell, "I came! I came!"
He stood up from the floor and pumped the air with his fists. Meanwhile, the condom still encasing his flaccidity, held at its tip a thimbleful of white gooeyness.
I then went to Oz 74, I paid the ten thousand peso cover and stood by the DJ´s area holding a bottle of water. A girl with chopstick legs and a pair of proud Hindenburgs walked over and stood next to me. I thought she had said something to me so I asked her to repeat it.
She said, "What did you say?
--I thought you had said something.
She said, " I didn´t say anything to you. I´m sorry. I´m in a bad mood because of something the DJ said while I was dancing."
--Can you tell me what he said?
She scrunched her pretty face and said, "Because I am busty, he called me a milking ****."
I bit my lower inner lip to keep from guffawing and said, " That is terrible. Just terrible. But you should feel good because at the end of the day, you are still pretty and he is still ugly."
She cocked her head and said, " I guess."
--Tell me. Do you like working here? Are the customers nice?
She pouted her luscious lips and said, "Not really. They are stingy. Not many want to pay my fee. I charge 100 thousand for 20 minutes and 300 thousand for the hour."
No amount of lip biting could keep me from laughing a big, baritone hyena laugh. She gave me an annoyed look. I said to her, " I can buy an hour of love for 50k. Don´t get me wrong. You charge as much as you want. I wont pay that much."
She said, "But you don´t know what kind of girls are those."
I was going to tell her, "And I don´t know what kind of girl you are."
However, instead I said, "You are right, no one rich has ever died of Aids."
She looked at me with all the love and understanding that one gives to rabid dogs and walked away. And just in time, too. The lesbian show started. Two lithe, athetic Mary Magdalenes danced, pranced, frolicked, licked, kissed, fingered, rubbed, pulled, tugged, hugged and fucked themselves, the other and any customer that decided to show the rest of the wolfpack that their ability to perform under pressure was as unimpressive as an American Idol reject´s.
Very poetic report.
[QUOTE=Team Stream]I told Bridget that I am visiting her on recommendation of a good friend. She definiately was flattered.
Also, as I was getting dressed after our session, the girls outside told her that another customer was waiting for her (specifically asked for her by name) after she was done with me. It seems that she is very popular.[/QUOTE]
Aye, she's a sweety. She'll either be putting up her prices or the other grirls will have her disappeared when she takes all their business :)
"Harder, baby! Put it between your lips as if it were a nipple. No, this is what I'm talking about. Look, baby, look! Like that, like that! Do it harder, baby. Harder, baby, harder!" She became very quiet, her whole body tensed up and she pushed my head against her loveliness.
My cheeks hurt. My tongue flicked as fast as exhaustion allowed it to flick. Oh, sweet non-existent Jesus, why did I let her convince me to cunnilinguate her without a dental dam? It wasn't the bottle of vodka we drank. That's not enough. It was her sweet smell. She took the dental dam and threw it in on the floor and said, "Baby, I can't feel anything with that."
I couldn't flick clit with the level of mastery demanded of me and not seen on this planet since Michaelangelo sculpted his Moses.
Finally! Oh, sweet non-existent Buddha, she went limp and let go of my hair. I rushed to the bathroom to rinse with listerine. In the mirror I didn't see my image, but that of a middle aged doctor reviewing my lab results. He looks up and says, "I'm sorry, sir. But, you have mouth Aids."
Rinse, spit, back to the sack.
In her post-orgasmic glow, Christmas (let's call her that, because she is a gift), looked like the very picture of sensuality. Her asian eyes and silky hair looked so lovely, so very lovely . She kissed me passionately. I stopped and said, "We have to stop kissing. It is against the casa rules."
She smiled, "You are right, baby. No more kissing."
We kept breaking such a sensible rule the rest of the night. While frolicking we talked. She asked me, "Why did you choose me again when that first time I was looking down my nose at everything."
I kept bouncing on her loveliness and said, "Because you are so beautiful and so much smarter than I am. "
She closed her eyes and said, "That can't be it. Tell me the truth."
Bounce, bounce, bounce. I said, " Because I felt that you were attracted to me, since I am devastatingly handsome."
"I'm sorry, baby, but you are not handsome. This feels great, but only if I keep my eyes closed. However, there is something peculiar about you that is attractive.Baby, you don't want to be handsome. What could you possibly get from it that you don't have now?"
I stop bouncing and plopped next to her. I put a hand over her eyes and said, "You are right. Who needs a constant boost to their ego?"
Funny, damn funny.
You should consider getting yourself a career at writing.
LatinBull
[QUOTE=LatinBull]Funny, damn funny.
You should consider getting yourself a career at writing.
LatinBull[/QUOTE]
THank you David 33 and Latin Bull. I am glan you guys liked my scribblings. My goal is to be factual with an entertaining style.
Ferolga
[QUOTE=RioThaiGuy]Just wondering if this hotel is still girl friendly?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Fuck yeah.
Ferolga
[QUOTE=Poturu]Hello I hope some help. I will reach a small town in Colombia and I like to know if at Bogota airoport I can change my money with a good change rate.
At airport where is the office to change money precisely?
thanx[/QUOTE]
Money exchange at the airport offers the standard official rate.
Suprising enough, this is not higher than what you can find in town.
At hotels, the rate is much less favourable.
Also, I found some "private" (?) exchangers near the Museo del Oro (I guess they were illegal), but they offered such a small rate gain that I refused, not to mention that I did not want to risk to do anythng against regulations.
Change your money with no worries at the airport. Avoid hotels.
You can also pick money from ATM (credit card), but you pay 4% commission.
The Bogota airport is not so big. You'll find the two exchange boxes with no problems right at the exit.
I just got back from Bogota. I stayed at the Hotel El Dorado at Carrera 4 No. 15-00 downtown. 15,000 COP (US$6. 75)/night. Very basic. Bed and a building. TV in room although I couldn't get any of the channels to come in.community bathroom: 1/floor. The hotel is 4 floors with maybe 3 or 4 rooms on each floor. No elevator. Half of a towel and two mini-bars of soap come with the room.
I didn't do any mongering. But I did go to a couple of regular small clubs. The first was Corporacion Club Social Univeritario located at Calle 20 AV Jimenez no 0-06 este Calle de la Aduana Vieja. It was a pretty good spot. They had the best Cuban Mojitos with plenty of fresh mint for 4000 COP. There were enough beautiful honies there.
The second club was La Poncena located at Caracas & 45. There were 90% black people. I saw my dream girl (tall and just right) but couldn't talk to her because I was already there with someone. There was also a girl who looked like Selma Hayak that not many people were asking to dance.
We all have our opinions I guess. I disagree with this post. In my opinion the absolute best way to change money and best bang for your buck is ATM's. You need to set up a bank that doesn't charge fees for using another banks ATM. That or one that will reimburse them. Even the ATM cards that charge no other bank ATM fee but charge the 1% international currency exchange fee is better than changing your money at the airport. In my experience changing money at a hotel or airport is the absoulte worst way to change money. The truth is taking money is a bad idea. ATM card is the way to go, but if you must take money to change.. find the banks that will change them or change them at a casa de cambio. That's just if you must take cash. Heck I'd even change on the street before I;d do it at the airport.. .but that's just me... and of course I wouldnt do that either as I've learned.. ATM is the way to go.
[QUOTE=Black Page]Money exchange at the airport offers the standard official rate.
Suprising enough, this is not higher than what you can find in town.
At hotels, the rate is much less favourable.
Also, I found some "private" (?) exchangers near the Museo del Oro (I guess they were illegal), but they offered such a small rate gain that I refused, not to mention that I did not want to risk to do anythng against regulations.
Change your money with no worries at the airport. Avoid hotels.
You can also pick money from ATM (credit card), but you pay 4% commission.
The Bogota airport is not so big. You'll find the two exchange boxes with no problems right at the exit.[/QUOTE]
There is really no need at all to take and exchange cash. I landed with only $30 in my pocket, to use when I arrived back in the States. Everything I used in Colombia I took out of ATMs while I was there.
You can take your money out of an ATM at the Bogota airport.
After you clear customs you will be coming towards the exit with the taxis on your right. Instead, turn left and go upstairs to the departure level. Once up there take a right, and walk about 150 meters or so past some stores. You will see a bank of different ATM machines on your left.
I prefer to use the Davidienda machines as they will give you 500,000 pesos. It cuts down on the number of trips you have to make, and the number of withdrawal charges if your bank imposes them.
Once in the city, you can find Davidienda (or other bank) ATMs all over the place.
When I was there in December, the official interbank rate according to xe.com was 2237, and through the ATM I received a rate of 2221. Close enough.
Besides getting the best rate, it is also serves as a safety precaution. If you only keep enough cash on hand to cover 1-2 days, you can't lose more than that if you do happen to get robbed.
I keep money in three different banks, so that if for some odd reason I want to take out a large amount I am not hindered by any daily limits.
DB
[QUOTE=Dodger Bulldog]After you clear customs you will be coming towards the exit with the taxis on your right. Instead, turn left and go upstairs to the departure level. Once up there take a right, and walk about 150 meters or so past some stores. You will see a bank of different ATM machines on your left.[/QUOTE]
I can confirm this. As far as I remember, there are actually several ATMs there. On the same level, there are a few banks, but everytime I even thought about changing money, the long lines quickly discouraged me. Absolutely no reason to even consider that option.
EA
Ditto this post.. couldnt have said it any better... Davidienda is the way to go as they allow you to take out 500k pesos. Also ditto, if you take $2kUS and get robbed.. dat sucks. If you get robbed right after you go the ATM, worst thing that happens is you lose $500k pesos... which also sucks but not near as bad as stashing US dollars somewhere. I too took US dollars my first time to Colombia many years ago, and travelers checks... never again.
[QUOTE=Dodger Bulldog]There is really no need at all to take and exchange cash. I landed with only $30 in my pocket, to use when I arrived back in the States. Everything I used in Colombia I took out of ATMs while I was there.
You can take your money out of an ATM at the Bogota airport.
After you clear customs you will be coming towards the exit with the taxis on your right. Instead, turn left and go upstairs to the departure level. Once up there take a right, and walk about 150 meters or so past some stores. You will see a bank of different ATM machines on your left.
I prefer to use the Davidienda machines as they will give you 500,000 pesos. It cuts down on the number of trips you have to make, and the number of withdrawal charges if your bank imposes them.
Once in the city, you can find Davidienda (or other bank) ATMs all over the place.
When I was there in December, the official interbank rate according to xe.com was 2237, and through the ATM I received a rate of 2221. Close enough.
Besides getting the best rate, it is also serves as a safety precaution. If you only keep enough cash on hand to cover 1-2 days, you can't lose more than that if you do happen to get robbed.
I keep money in three different banks, so that if for some odd reason I want to take out a large amount I am not hindered by any daily limits.
DB[/QUOTE]
In answer to your request regarding money changing in Colombia. ATM's have changed the world for travellers and to carry a large sum of cash whether Euros or Dollars is very unwise and I can tell you that a Colombian bank would charge a very high fees to process the transaction and you would be walking down the high street with a bag full of peso and a large sign on your back "PLEASE ROB ME".
Using an ATM it is always adviable to carry at least two cards because if a card becomes demagnitized or damaged you could be in a very unpleasant situation trying to get cash in an unfriendly environment.
There are ATM's in all areas in Colombia , try to find one that is not secluded and there is a guard at the front door.
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I thank you for your suggestions. My problem is a little bit different. I have to change around 2500 euro at Bogota airport. In fact where I will go I don't know if there is a ATM, it is a small town. Surely there are some banks. Can a ATM change so much money? I cannot go out from airoport, I will have 2 hours only to take money.
In your opinion is my best option ATM at airport or a Bank at a small town?
I thank you.
Do not even consider taking 2500 Euros to change in the airport... 1) Im not sure it can be done and 2) it would be severely severly stupid. Nothing else really needs to be said. Take an ATM card or don't go.
[QUOTE=Poturu]I thank you for your suggestions. My problem is a little bit different. I have to change around 2500 euro at Bogota airport. In fact where I will go I don't know if there is a ATM, it is a small town. Surely there are some banks. Can a ATM change so much money? I cannot go out from airoport, I will have 2 hours only to take money.
In your opinion is my best option ATM at airport or a Bank at a small town?
I thank you.[/QUOTE]
Dude, Seriously. Deposit the 2500 euros in the bank and then do all your transactions at the atms. I will be getting my 500k at the airport as soon as I arrive in Bogota. Its the only way to go.
[QUOTE=Poturu]My problem is a little bit different. I have to change around 2500 euro at Bogota airport. In fact where I will go I don't know if there is a ATM, it is a small town. Surely there are some banks. Can a ATM change so much money? I cannot go out from airoport, I will have 2 hours only to take money.
In your opinion is my best option ATM at airport or a Bank at a small town?
I thank you.[/QUOTE]
What small town are we talking about? Maybe somebody has already been there. You can probably figure out in advance whether there is an ATM accepting foreign cards. I sure would try. As long as they accept Visa/Mastercard, you should be fine.
Now that I think about it: if it is such a small town, maybe EUR cash isn't such a good idea in the first place. If anything, US dollars.
Why do you need to bring EUR 2500 in cash, anyway? How long are you staying in Colombia? Sorry, I know this is none of my business, but I am just trying to help.
EA
Hi all.
I see that my post started almost a thread, mostly disagreeing with my suggestions.
Although nobody of you wrote anything wrong (in my modest experience), I wish to point out two things, hopefully to make you considerate better the value of my advice.
Moreover, I want to reassure you that I agree that *anywhere in the world* I experienced that the rates at airport exchange boxes do approach a robbery. Well, Colombia was an exception (see below).
1) Exchange rate.
Dodger Bulldog wrote:
"When I was there in December, the official interbank rate according to xe.com was 2237, and through the ATM I received a rate of 2221. Close enough."
I was there in the first week of December too. The exchange rate at the official exchange boxes at the airport was 2200, with NO added commission.
It is 1% less than the DB's ATM rate, which probably includes some commission as well.
My hotel was offering something like 2100/2150.
A lady near museo del oro offered me something like 2230.
(maybe with some commission).
As you see, changing at the Bogota airport is still convenient, contrary to what happens usually in airports.
2) ATM
Winner71 wrote:
"You need to set up a bank that doesn't charge fees for using another banks ATM. "
Ehehe, this is the bug. I guess you are all Americans. I live in a country of European Union. My bank account does not offer me this feature!
The only way I have to get money from an ATM abroad (or probably extra-EU) is using the "cash advance" feature of credit cards like VISA.
It charges 4% commission.
In most countries, this is still nearly competitive with the rate+commission offered by banks or small boxes, so using ATM is advisable (and I DO use ATMs, btw).
In COlombia, I made some calculations and I decided to change some money at the airport and to take extra cash from ATMs.
I hope my point is clearer now.
Bye all.
My American bank charges me 3.5%, and it's still the best deal to use the ATM's. ALWAYS look for Davivienda, because the other banks won't give you a whole 500k, most of them will give you 300 or 400 max.
I'm thinking of getting an etrade account because they will only charge 1%.
[QUOTE=Black Page]Ehehe, this is the bug. I guess you are all Americans. I live in a country of European Union. My bank account does not offer me this feature!
The only way I have to get money from an ATM abroad (or probably extra-EU) is using the "cash advance" feature of credit cards like VISA.
It charges 4% commission.[/QUOTE]
What? I don't know which bank you are with, but let me tell you this: I have two accounts, one in the US, one in the EU, which I both access via ATM cards where I live (and I permanently live outside of both of those areas). Both ATM cards work exactly the same way. So for my EU account, I just withdraw funds like with any other ATM card, and NOT by using the "cash advance" feature of a credit card like VISA.
Here in Mexico, for example, whenever I use my US (ATM, i.e. debit) card, they charge me a flat USD 5.00 transaction fee for whatever withdrawal I make; it used to be USD 3.00. So this means that when I withdraw the local equivalent of USD 300.00, the transaction fee comes to 1.67% (used to be 1%). That's very different from a cash advance off a credit card.
[QUOTE=Poturu]I don't understand if the colombian bank rate (in the center town) is worse or better than the ATM rate.
In few words if I change 100 euros at the bank in the center town how much money will I get?[/QUOTE]
Somehow, I got the feeling you are sort of confused about the issue here, also in terms of how you insist on miniscule exchange rate differences. The real issue here is 1) security (a BIG issue), and 2) convenience. Even with transaction fees and a slightly less favorable exchange rate that ATMs give, I'd say that the benefits of using ATM cards still greatly outweigh the risks/inconveniences of other types of money, especially when compared to running around with large amounts of cash. This should be a no-brainer.
My two centavos worth,
EA
If you are exchanging dollars to pesos, you can expect 3.5-5% less the inter bank rate.
Other Currencies, which include Euros could be as high as 10-15% less the interbank rate, as they are not traded much in Colombia, you will have to pay higher fees.
I would just bring a debit card, the fees on your debit card will depend on your home bank, they are normally 0.5-5.5%, mostly around 3%.
Cirrus and Maestro are excepted in most ATMs in Colombia.
Hunter
[QUOTE=El Austriaco]
The real issue here is 1) security (a BIG issue), and 2) convenience. Even with transaction fees and a slightly less favorable exchange rate that ATMs give, I'd say that the benefits of using ATM cards still greatly outweight the risks/inconveniences of other types of money, especially when compared to running around with large amounts of cash. This should be a no-brainer.
EA[/QUOTE]
I surely agree. This is a good advice.
As I said, I always took money from ATMs in Colombia, accepting to pay the 4% fee, because of convenience (i.e., security).
Though, when I had cash with me to change, I found that the Bogota airport exchange boxes were competitive: 2200 ps/USD no fee, versus 2221+fee in the bank .
If you look at the rates in exchange boxes in most airports of the world, you see that there is a big difference. I saw horrible things in those places, like 25% of difference between buying and selling!
When I go to Colombia , I call the bank and let them know that I will be using the credit card out of the country, Also I send myself some cash through a send money sevice, it usually costs $4 US for $100 US
[QUOTE=Barefoot Chap] Anyone know much about Chia and is it worth a visit, how far away is it.... I have read that it is just at the northern tip of bogota and it has a university and a great strip of bars. [/QUOTE]
Chia is a must go, in my opinion.
There is one of the best restaurants in town: Andres Carnes del Res, which features an outstanding grill with many types of meat, not to mention the nice people and environment. It is expensive, compared to local standards, but cheap, if compared to US prices.
If you go there with a friend, take the mix grill dish for 4. It costs only a few bucks more than the mix for 2 or for 3, but you'll enjoy something excellent.
If you cannot finish it, ask for a box. It costs something like 0.50 USD and it is a wooden beautiful box.
You can go there by bus. Dont be afraid to ask some local. By taxi is way too expensive.
Take the Transmillennio bound to North. At the last stop, take a bus "colectivo".
You may take 1 hour to go there. Ask some local people at the bus station, to avoid to get lost.
Once in Chia, you can take a taxi to go to the restaurant.
In Chia there are dozens of good restaurants, but Andres is the most famous (and I guess the best one).
An idea: as I did, you can go to Zipaquira to visit the Salt Catedral and, on the way back, stop at Chia for a big lunch in the afternoon (a late lunch at 3pm may look as an early dinner to an American folk, so it is ok). Ask locals for details about what bus to take.
PS: I assume you understand/speak some basic Spanish
[QUOTE=Barefoot Chap]From reading your post I'm getting the impression it is a small town and that maybe the article I read about it's bar scene was more hype than anything else. I like the Zipaquira idea. An hour is a little far so I guess we might have to get a hotel if the bars are worth a visit. Is it at the same altitude as bogota or can I expect some Medellin temeratures? I'm leaving today at 12:00 but I'll have internet acccess. Thanks for the info.[/QUOTE]
No idea about bars. Never heard about that. I went there at daytime and I spent 2 hours at Andres Carnes del Res. As far as I know, Chia is famous for eating.
Same altitude and temperature than in Bogota! its not so far away :-) it's there!
[QUOTE=Barefoot Chap]I'm leaving in just a few hours to Bogota and want any one who has been there to give me a "must do " list while there. I promise a great report when and during my time there. I'm staying in the northern part of bogota at real 85. I woud like non pros and pro info, my buddy will surley take advantage of the p4p. Anyone know much about Chia and is it worth a visit, how far away is it.... I have read that it is just at the northern tip of bogota and it has a university and a great strip of bars. Don't be selfish with your response and pm if you want to keep your favorite to do list private. I have already received a lot of info from ISG and a thanks to all that have contributed. Just looking for a little more info to make my navigations a little more direct.[/QUOTE]My favorite restaurant in Bogota is Nazca- very hip, modern setting and terrific Peruvian food. I believe the address is Calle 74, 5-28. Also recommended: Andres (in Chia and already discussed), Harry's Sasson (sp?), and Harry's Cantina. Enjoy.
[QUOTE=Barefoot Chap]I'm leaving in just a few hours to Bogota and want any one who has been there to give me a "must do " list while there. I promise a great report when and during my time there. I'm staying in the northern part of bogota at real 85. I woud like non pros and pro info, my buddy will surley take advantage of the p4p. Anyone know much about Chia and is it worth a visit, how far away is it.... I have read that it is just at the northern tip of bogota and it has a university and a great strip of bars. Don't be selfish with your response and pm if you want to keep your favorite to do list private. I have already received a lot of info from ISG and a thanks to all that have contributed. Just looking for a little more info to make my navigations a little more direct.[/QUOTE]One more thing, the best nightclub (IMO) in Bogota is Salto con Angel located on the NW corner of Parque Noventa Tres, especially on Thursdays.
Kukaramarkara, also on Parque 93, is fun on the weekend. You pretty much cannot go wrong in this neighborhood. Just my two cents.
The problem with Chia is not getting there which, as you say is cheap and easy by bus, but getting back, which invariably results in having to deal with a whole bunch of taxi drivers taking the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] and knowing you have no choice.
Really takes the edge off the evening. Never again.
[QUOTE=Black Page]Chia is a must go, in my opinion.
There is one of the best restaurants in town: Andres Carnes del Res, which features an outstanding grill with many types of meat, not to mention the nice people and environment. It is expensive, compared to local standards, but cheap, if compared to US prices.
If you go there with a friend, take the mix grill dish for 4. It costs only a few bucks more than the mix for 2 or for 3, but you'll enjoy something excellent.
If you cannot finish it, ask for a box. It costs something like 0.50 USD and it is a wooden beautiful box.
You can go there by bus. Dont be afraid to ask some local. By taxi is way too expensive.
Take the Transmillennio bound to North. At the last stop, take a bus "colectivo".
You may take 1 hour to go there. Ask some local people at the bus station, to avoid to get lost.
Once in Chia, you can take a taxi to go to the restaurant.
In Chia there are dozens of good restaurants, but Andres is the most famous (and I guess the best one).
An idea: as I did, you can go to Zipaquira to visit the Salt Catedral and, on the way back, stop at Chia for a big lunch in the afternoon (a late lunch at 3pm may look as an early dinner to an American folk, so it is ok). Ask locals for details about what bus to take.
PS: I assume you understand/speak some basic Spanish[/QUOTE]
Zipa's nice. Usually the weather there is a bit warmed than Bog, but if you're goingto wandering around unground for an hour or so, you might want a jacket too.
[QUOTE=Barefoot Chap]I do speak lots of spanish. From reading your post I'm getting the impression it is a small town and that maybe the article I read about it's bar scene was more hype than anything else. I like the Zipaquira idea. An hour is a little far so I guess we might have to get a hotel if the bars are worth a visit. Is it at the same altitude as bogota or can I expect some Medellin temeratures? I'm leaving today at 12:00 but I'll have internet acccess. Thanks for the info.[/QUOTE]
You can avoid the 4% fee by setting up an account with citibank. Loads of branches all over the place, honest exchange rate, no %, max of about 3200k per day (it should be more. $2000 according to their helpless desk, but it wasn't).
No citibank at the airport though (wtf?), so have a backup.
And, of course, never go out for an evening with your ATM card.
[QUOTE=Black Page]I surely agree. This is a good advice.
As I said, I always took money from ATMs in Colombia, accepting to pay the 4% fee, because of convenience (i.e., security).
Though, when I had cash with me to change, I found that the Bogota airport exchange boxes were competitive: 2200 ps/USD no fee, versus 2221+fee in the bank .
If you look at the rates in exchange boxes in most airports of the world, you see that there is a big difference. I saw horrible things in those places, like 25% of difference between buying and selling![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Winner71]Do not even consider taking 2500 Euros to change in the airport... 1) Im not sure it can be done and 2) it would be severely severly stupid. Nothing else really needs to be said. Take an ATM card or don't go.[/QUOTE]
1. There's a box on the customs for you should tick if you're carrying large amounts of cash. I think the figure is > $10k though.
2. But is *is* stupid. Those inspectors are there *looking* for cash, and it may cause you problems on entry. Or it may just get stolen.
Agree go with the atm.
Paypal is the way to go. Set up a Paypal debit card. About a week before you leave transfer the funds you need to your paypal acct from your checking acct.
The Paypal debit card can be used at any ATM accepting Mastercard. Tne nice thing about it is that the Paypal card gives access only to your paypal acct and not the funds in your checking acct.
If I am not mistaken the transaction fee is $1.00 and there is a $300/day limit.
Willie
[QUOTE=Poturu]But I am afraid ATM can demagnetize my Visa card.
This will be a big problem.[/QUOTE]
OK - all you helpful people - how many posts to get to this point? Please, close your mouth, and stop muttering "fucking unbelievable" under your breath.
Should we have a vote? Luddite or troll??
Polvo
[QUOTE=Poturu]But I am afraid ATM can demagnetize my Visa card.
This will be a big problem.[/QUOTE]
WTF? Are you serious? Do they allow you out in public unescorted?
Hey guys dont be too hard on him. I have heard that there are tribes of people like this in New Guinea and even parts of brazil that have never seen an ATM!! But most of them do not have 2500 euros to just throw around!!! Hey buddy, wanna buy a plot of prime land on the moon?? jejejeje
[QUOTE=Flying Sky High]Has anyone stayed at this hotel/apartment?. It looks great and the price is right! Your feedback is greatly appreciated!
[url]http://www.welovebogota.com/[/url][/QUOTE]
Seen that ad before.
Looks to me that if you don't take the whole apt you're gonna end up sharing with others...
Just passed through here a couple of times on the way to and from Barranquilla, a couple of nights each time.
Hotels
Cosmos100 (Calle 100, Cra 21)
Cost was about US$90, taxes and breakfast included. There were some guest issues when I brought back my non-pro girl. After some discussion they let me get by with just a 3500 peso security fee. I think they may normally charge more. Breakfast was good. The rooms were a bit stuffy with only a very small opening on the window. There's a glass enclosed pool on the rooftop, together with a basic gym.
Suites Real 85
Cost 105,000 pesos. Breakfast is brought to your room. The room has a kitchen and sitting area. Bed was a little on the small side. Location is great, walking distance to Zona Rosa places. Totally guest friendly. Good value.
I only met one nurse girl here via Latin American Cupid. A bottle of wine and some Arab shisha smoking did the trick. With her around I had no incentive to look for pros or even other non-pros.
Does anyone have any information on X VIP Pompi on Calle 116 # 19-57? A friend of mine (who is a chick and who doesn't know about this site) told me that this is the place where many actoresses work for high dollar. We passed by it during the day on the way to somewhere else when she pointed it out so I could not check it out. She said something like 2.000.000 COP per night for drop-dead gorgous actresses and models. I did a search and saw not a report one on this place.
This same chick has a Colombian friend who works as a "presentor". She told me that a presentor is like a high dollar celebrity pip. She told me that he takes a percentage and makes good money. He told her that most celebrities in Bogota can be had for a pretty penny. I found this quite interesting. Has anyone heard the same?
And Dwayne (on a side note): what the hell were we doing on Premiera de Mayo? haha.
QB
I'm going to be in Medellín and Bogotá at the end of March and beginning of April. I think Semana Santa (Easter Week) will be happening then. How much will this get in the way of mongering? Will clubs and casas be open as usual the whole time?
Perhaps there are particularly good places to visit or good fiestas going on during this time?
Semana Santa, definitely a BAD time to visit for PFP in all of Colombia. Good time for vacation with the novias (girlfriends) :)
[QUOTE=Ricker]Semana Santa, definitely a BAD time to visit for PFP in all of Colombia. Good time for vacation with the novias (girlfriends) :)[/QUOTE]
The whole week, or do you mean some specific days? I'm leaving on Sunday morning, April 8, so I'm hoping I get lucky and miss the main holiday.
[QUOTE=Bartchamdo]The whole week, or do you mean some specific days? I'm leaving on Sunday morning, April 8, so I'm hoping I get lucky and miss the main holiday.[/QUOTE]
Bartchamdo,
Basically Thursday April 5th thru Sunday April 8th will be dead in Medellin. The night clubs and the P4P's will all be closed. The only exception will be New Life which will be closed Good Friday and Holy Saturday but open on Holy Thursday and (surprisingly) Easter Sunday.
The boys at the Mansion/Castillo and probably VIP's will have something going on yje down days to bide the time.
Who knows, there might even be an Easter Nunny or two.
Cheers,
Cubanut
Gentlemen,
I have to say that Bogota has much to offer. I do like Cartagena,Cali and Medellin. However, BOG can hold it's own against all competition. Again we hit all the non-pro stuff early in the evening, Zona Rosa and Parque 93 are a must do. If you like beer, Bogota beer company has a great crowd and lots of hotties to view. I do speak Spanish, however in this place it is loaded with girls who can understand multi lingual personalities. We would go to Juan Pablos AKA Zhivagos Carrera 18 # 93A-83. It was awesome The prices vary, we went on Tuesday night, ( if you know the game in the big cities this is the best night in the business) the girl start saying 300K but in 2 minutes are down to 200k. We took the girls back to Suites Real 97. . We took girls on 2 consecutive nights from here and both nights the girls quoted 1 hour but stayed all night long. We did have the apartment set up with liqueur, beers and food, girls love that shit and believe we are sincere about them. The girls stayed all night however, I was actually waiting for the girls to get the fuck out! Isn't that what we pay them for????? I was amazed that all the BOG girls we encountered DFK'd and BBBJ was part of the program in our camp. Each night I would present the argument about them leaving after 1 hour, that would make an ugly discussion. All would tell me they were here only because they were in trouble financially and needed money for the month. I would ask if they were looking for short time or for a good time. Each girl argued the same. "Do you see any girls returning here after they have left with a client?" I had to answer "no!" That was the truth at Juan Pablos AKA..Zhivagos. Over all a great place for pay for scene. beers were about 10,000 peso...80K bar fine and we paid 200k for girls after crazy quotes. There is a large selection of girls, however my only problem is, it is dark and you cannot get a great feel for belly wounds or super stretch marks. I was victim one night. Thinking I had a super hottie only to see her in the light of the hotel..That I was downgraded by Johnny Walker, such is life with JW and rolling late night.
Night # 3.. Went to the La Mansion.....Giant house on Auto pista 117 and carrera 116 I think. However, all Taxistas know the local. loaded with lots of talent. We played pool for 3 hours and looked at all the talent before deciding. Beers were 16000 pesos $7.5 It is worth it to see some of the great talent that has migrated to BOG. We bought a bottle of tequila and did shots with all the ladies who passed or showed interest. Quotes start as high as 400k. However, all were @ 200K with little persuasion I must say 2 girls we spoke with said 300k for 60 min and would not move from that price. they left alone and we still tried to grab them at the door and they said "no problem ... for 300k"... Solid negotiators who don't have rent do the next day. We paid the 200K and met the girls back @ our place for another full night of slamming and drinking in Suites Real.
In short, BOG is awesome for our trade. Nice social life, events and great non-pro places. We had big time fun and hit many places listed on BOG Lists. We had a great guide from Suites Real 97 named Jose Alvarara # 57-310-480-3559. Spanish only with him. However, if you have a copy of the Bog list's you could point and pick and have no problem with Jose.
BOG has much to offer and all days and times are available. Visit and enjoy one of the emerald cities of Colombia......peace out....FLYJETS
[QUOTE=FlyJets]Gentlemen,
I have to say that Bogota has much to offer. I do like Cartagena,Cali and Medellin. However, BOG can hold it's own against all competition. Again we hit all the non-pro stuff early in the evening, Zona Rosa and Parque 93 are a must do. If you like beer, Bogota beer company has a great crowd and lots of hotties to view. I do speak Spanish, however in this place it is loaded with girls who can understand multi lingual personalities. We would go to Juan Pablos AKA Zhivagos Carrera 18 # 93A-83. It was awesome The prices vary, we went on Tuesday night, ( if you know the game in the big cities this is the best night in the business) the girl start saying 300K but in 2 minutes are down to 200k. We took the girls back to Suites Real 97. . We took girls on 2 consecutive nights from here and both nights the girls quoted 1 hour but stayed all night long. We did have the apartment set up with liqueur, beers and food, girls love that shit and believe we are sincere about them. The girls stayed all night however, I was actually waiting for the girls to get the fuck out! Isn't that what we pay them for????? I was amazed that all the BOG girls we encountered DFK'd and BBBJ was part of the program in our camp. Each night I would present the argument about them leaving after 1 hour, that would make an ugly discussion. All would tell me they were here only because they were in trouble financially and needed money for the month. I would ask if they were looking for short time or for a good time. Each girl argued the same. "Do you see any girls returning here after they have left with a client?" I had to answer "no!" That was the truth at Juan Pablos AKA..Zhivagos. Over all a great place for pay for scene. beers were about 10,000 peso...80K bar fine and we paid 200k for girls after crazy quotes. There is a large selection of girls, however my only problem is, it is dark and you cannot get a great feel for belly wounds or super stretch marks. I was victim one night. Thinking I had a super hottie only to see her in the light of the hotel..That I was downgraded by Johnny Walker, such is life with JW and rolling late night.
Night # 3.. Went to the La Mansion.....Giant house on Auto pista 117 and carrera 116 I think. However, all Taxistas know the local. loaded with lots of talent. We played pool for 3 hours and looked at all the talent before deciding. Beers were 16000 pesos $7.5 It is worth it to see some of the great talent that has migrated to BOG. We bought a bottle of tequila and did shots with all the ladies who passed or showed interest. Quotes start as high as 400k. However, all were @ 200K with little persuasion I must say 2 girls we spoke with said 300k for 60 min and would not move from that price. they left alone and we still tried to grab them at the door and they said "no problem ... for 300k"... Solid negotiators who don't have rent do the next day. We paid the 200K and met the girls back @ our place for another full night of slamming and drinking in Suites Real.
In short, BOG is awesome for our trade. Nice social life, events and great non-pro places. We had big time fun and hit many places listed on BOG Lists. We had a great guide from Suites Real 97 named Jose Alvarara # 57-310-480-3559. Spanish only with him. However, if you have a copy of the Bog list's you could point and pick and have no problem with Jose.
BOG has much to offer and all days and times are available. Visit and enjoy one of the emerald cities of Colombia......peace out....FLYJETS[/QUOTE]
You answered my question without even realizing it. I live in BOG and didn't realize that X VIP Pompei was "The Mansion". Anyway, great report.
QB
Went to centro friday to check out... the Santa Fe area has lost its charm it used to be somewaht low profile but now with all the neon signs around there's a lot more places around La Piscina then there use to be just three years ago when La Piscina was the happening place in this area.
At La Piscina there's a consummible cover charge of 6k pesos, which buys you two cervezas. The place was not very busy. I guess people finally got fed up with the security guys and the overpriced girls in there. Same goes for Las Paisas which was good at one time. Maybe the new area to go is the Siete de Agosto part of the city.
A girl I was talking to while finishing my beers told me there had been a shooting a couple of nights earlier just outside the bar. Like always, be careful around this area as it can be very dangerous.
Hpts!
[QUOTE=Q Bert]Does anyone have any information on X VIP Pompi on Calle 116 # 19-57? A friend of mine (who is a chick and who doesn't know about this site) told me that this is the place where many actoresses work for high dollar. We passed by it during the day on the way to somewhere else when she pointed it out so I could not check it out. She said something like 2.000.000 COP per night for drop-dead gorgous actresses and models. I did a search and saw not a report one on this place.[/QUOTE]
This is The Mansion I think. I don't frequent it as its too pricy for my cheap arse, but I did hang out with a pro who did work there, as well as the street. Somehow I don't see the 2M c/n chicks working with these comparative low lives.
Does anyone have the scoop on the SWs that are around Caracas & 57? I passed by in a taxi last night and saw some stunners out.
[QUOTE=AddictedToWomen]This is The Mansion I think. I don't frequent it as its too pricy for my cheap arse, but I did hang out with a pro who did work there, as well as the street. Somehow I don't see the 2M c/n chicks working with these comparative low lives.[/QUOTE]
It didn't sound right to me either. She probably got second hand information. She does know the "presenter" guy personally and that sounds more like how those types would operate to me.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Does anyone have the scoop on the SWs that are around Caracas & 57? I passed by in a taxi last night and saw some stunners out.[/QUOTE]
But what is "Caracas"? I am assuming it's an avenue and the 57 is the calle.
Thanks!
QB
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Does anyone have the scoop on the SWs that are around Caracas & 57? I passed by in a taxi last night and saw some stunners out.[/QUOTE]
They might be men. Be careful!!! That area of Chapinero is renowned for that. They blend in well. Ask your taxista. Again, be careful.
First of all Hello to everyone on this forum.
I have spent the last few years Hanging around the Middle east and Africa.
I have just been told however that I am off to Bogotá on Sunday.
I think I will be staying fairly close to the Airport as I will only be there for one night.
My Spanish is extremely bad much worse than my English.
Does anyone know of some nice Greek friendly ladies around the Airport area.
Please PM me if you think you can help out.
Any one from ISG in Bogota from the 22 onwards want to meet up for a beer and some action?
[QUOTE=Jasss]any one from wsg in bogota from the 22 onwards want to meet up for a beer and some action?[/QUOTE]I will be arriving in Bogota on the evening of the 23rd and my wingman AptDude will already be in town as he gets in on the 18th. We both are staying at the Abadia Colonial. Send me a PM and can get together and hit some of the hot spots.
[QUOTE=Q Bert]But what is "Caracas"? I am assuming it's an avenue and the 57 is the calle.
Thanks!
QB[/QUOTE]
Indeed it is. If you follow K15 south from Cl 72 you're on Av Caracas iirc
Go to [url]http://www.bogota.gov.co/mad/buscador.php[/url] and enter ak15 70
(Its a crap map, but the best I've found to date).
[QUOTE=Daidalus]First of all Hello to everyone on this forum.
I have spent the last few years Hanging around the Middle east and Africa.
I have just been told however that I am off to Bogotá on Sunday.
I think I will be staying fairly close to the Airport as I will only be there for one night.
My Spanish is extremely bad much worse than my English.
Does anyone know of some nice Greek friendly ladies around the Airport area.
Please PM me if you think you can help out.[/QUOTE]
Where are you staying close to the airport? Forte?
Think your best bet is likely to be outcall or jump in a taxi. Check out the Bogota lists
Hi fellows,
Any member familiar with Bogota know of any helth club that has a work out area , a whirlpool and a swimming pool? The last time I was in Medellin I looked all over the city for a health club that has a whirlpool and a swimming pool there was none.And please post the prices for the day, week?
Thank you. I really appreciate that. I'll be going in June
[QUOTE=Viajero]Hi fellows,
Any member familiar with Bogota know of any helth club that has a work out area , a whirlpool and a swimming pool? The last time I was in Medellin I looked all over the city for a health club that has a whirlpool and a swimming pool there was none.And please post the prices for the day, week?
Thank you. I really appreciate that. I'll be going in June[/QUOTE]Viajero,
The health club that might suit you is the Bodytech located on Calle 109- about halfway between Parque 93 and the Santa Barbara barrio to the north. I do not know the prices- there are 4 other Bodytechs in Bogota but this is the only one with a pool.
Scrubjay
[QUOTE=Viajero]Hi fellows,
Any member familiar with Bogota know of any helth club that has a work out area , a whirlpool and a swimming pool? The last time I was in Medellin I looked all over the city for a health club that has a whirlpool and a swimming pool there was none.And please post the prices for the day, week?
Thank you. I really appreciate that. I'll be going in June[/QUOTE]Viajero,
The Bodytech club you want is "Chico" Bodytech:
address: Avenida 19 #102-31,
e-mail: [email]Chico@bodytechgym.com[/email]
conmutador: 256-2002
I believe they are bilingual and that they have contracts with many of the area hotels.
SJ
[QUOTE=Scrub Jay]Viajero,
The Bodytech club you want is "Chico" Bodytech:
address: Avenida 19 #102-31,
e-mail: [email]Chico@bodytechgym.com[/email]
conmutador: 256-2002
I believe they are bilingual and that they have contracts with many of the area hotels.
SJ[/QUOTE]Thanks Scrub
It has been quite a while that I was waiting for the opportunity to visit the Mezzanine at Carrera 15 104-03. So when I finally found an hour to escape, I didn’t thought much and went directly there. There’s a parking lot on Car 15 very close from the Mezzanine where you can discretely left your car. .
Then I climbed the stairs till the Mezzanine and went directly to local n° 9 as so many times "advertised" in these pages.
This local is very small, at the end of the footpath behind the mall.
When I entered, a girl explained me the rates (25 HJ, 35 HJ++, 60 Full), unfortunately, all the "rooms" were occupied.
As I had very little time I left and walked till next door: Local n° 10.
There, a cute girl explained me the rate (same as local n° 9) and I asked her if she would do a BBBJ: No, Anal: No. But the girl was very cute. .
Her name was Vanessa and she told me that she was from Manizales. She is blond, tiny with small natural breast and a real nice face.
As I really had no time left, I made up my mind and said yes to Vanessa, I bargained 50K for 30 minutes with "full" service.
She then left the "room" to prepare herself.
That "room" is really very small, I would say 2, 5 x 1, 2 meters! The "walls" are in some very thin material, and every one may hear what you say or do. They have obviously no bed in such a small place, but the classical massage table.
She came back and we both got naked.
I asked her if she would let me take some pictures and then again: No!
So she start an HJ and I wanted to finger her pussy, but again: No.
Then I tried to lick her pussy, but again, No.
Then, she took some oil in her hand and start a very good HJ.
As I was so mad with all those No I left her play with my dick, but suddenly without even knowing it, I came and had my "juice" everywhere.
So, what can I say? If you are looking for a quick HJ, Vanessa is your girl.
But if you are looking for something better, I’d strongly advise to pass your way.
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Spent a month in Bogota earlier this year. As mentioned before, El Castillo and La Piscina are definitely full of lookers. La Piscina has two locations, one for the day and one for the night. Some of the same girls work both shifts. The hotest girls I saw were in El Castillo. In both places I was quoted 80 pesos for half hour and 120 for an hour. I don't know is this is the norm or gringo pricing. The "zona rosa" is full of great reastaurantes and a couple of malls. Some cute girls to look at, but not sure if you could pull one or not. As usual, it depends on the guy.
[QUOTE=Dougus]In both places I was quoted 80 pesos for half hour and 120 for an hour. I don't know is this is the norm or gringo pricing.[/QUOTE]
That sounds almost reasonable after the inflated prices I've been offered there. Or was that in La Piscina del sur?
Dougus is correct.El castillo is 80 mil for 30 minutes. La piscina is 70-80 mil for 30 minutes. I also found the hotter chicas at El Castillo.
Where are El castillo and La Piscina located in Bogota, like, what part of the city? Street names and/or addresses would be great, but also what neighborhood (Zona Rosa, Parque 93, Santa Fe). Is the area they're located in considered a safe area?
Thanks,
Rodeo
Quoted prices were the same in all three places. 80 for 1/2 hour and 120 for a full hour. The clubs are located in Santa Fe. I wouldn't go walking around after dark by myself, but during the day it seemed okay. As always, it depends on the individual and how well they blend in. I do not blend in well, so I am speaking from the "looks like a gringo" standpoint.
Does it has internet at the rooms?
LatinBull
I will be in Bogata next week, last December I stayed atthe Sheraton near the airport, phoned for room service, the front desk brought her to my room and added a fee to my bill. The lady was a complete disappointment, she came from chuscas.com, I have absolutely nothing favorable t say about the experience, see my 12/09/06 report.
Does anyone have any suggestions of where to stay? If I stay at the Sheraton again is there any action near by? Would downtown be better?
Thanks in advance for the help.
[QUOTE=LatinBull]Does it has internet at the rooms?
LatinBull[/QUOTE]
I was there in mid-January 2007.
Suites Real has wireless internet now (802.11b). The service is decent/reasonable (when it works). I did find it to go up and down. The WAP would be up and I'd be able to connect, however, no service to the internet.
I stayed there about a year ago, and they had a couple of computers with internet acces, but of all places it was down the hallway from the lobby right inside the administrative offices of the hotel. It was horrible because the monitors where facing the entrance to the office in plain sight of everyone there.
There was no internet access about a year ago in my room, but that might have changed by now. Check out there internet website for info.
[url]http://www.suitesreal.com/[/url]
Thanks mate.
LatinBull
Gents,
I'll be in Bogota in early June and was wondering what I should wear. I know what the climate is like, I'm looking more specifically for info on fashion. I don't want to look like a tourist (my face won't be a giveaway as I have darker skin like the latinos). I hear that no one wears sneakers/tennis shoes and that shorts and tee shirts are dead giveaways as are tropical clothes. So, are we talking polo-type shirts and slacks, open collared dress shirts w/slacks. Wouldn't that make me look a little too wealthy? I'm just trying to blend in as much as possible. Of course with my level of Spanish, as soon as I open my mouth, my cover will be blown!
Also, looking for any "lines" to feed the ladies that will get them to latch on (I. E. Wealthy, flashy lifestyle, education, world traveler, government worker, connections to visas/plane tickets, marriage prospects, etc). Of course, just looking for them to latch on enough to give up the ass!
[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]Gents,
I'll be in Bogota in early June and was wondering what I should wear. I know what the climate is like, I'm looking more specifically for info on fashion. I don't want to look like a tourist (my face won't be a giveaway as I have darker skin like the latinos). I hear that no one wears sneakers/tennis shoes and that shorts and tee shirts are dead giveaways as are tropical clothes. So, are we talking polo-type shirts and slacks, open collared dress shirts w/slacks. Wouldn't that make me look a little too wealthy? I'm just trying to blend in as much as possible. Of course with my level of Spanish, as soon as I open my mouth, my cover will be blown!
Also, looking for any "lines" to feed the ladies that will get them to latch on (I. E. Wealthy, flashy lifestyle, education, world traveler, government worker, connections to visas/plane tickets, marriage prospects, etc). Of course, just looking for them to latch on enough to give up the ass![/QUOTE]
Had to read that twice. You want to blend in so you can stand out??
[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]Gents,
I'll be in Bogota in early June and was wondering what I should wear. I know what the climate is like, I'm looking more specifically for info on fashion. I don't want to look like a tourist (my face won't be a giveaway as I have darker skin like the latinos). I hear that no one wears sneakers/tennis shoes and that shorts and tee shirts are dead giveaways as are tropical clothes. So, are we talking polo-type shirts and slacks, open collared dress shirts w/slacks. Wouldn't that make me look a little too wealthy? I'm just trying to blend in as much as possible. Of course with my level of Spanish, as soon as I open my mouth, my cover will be blown!
Also, looking for any "lines" to feed the ladies that will get them to latch on (I. E. Wealthy, flashy lifestyle, education, world traveler, government worker, connections to visas/plane tickets, marriage prospects, etc). Of course, just looking for them to latch on enough to give up the ass![/QUOTE]Long trousers (Jeans ok) and a polo or normal shirt during the day. You will need a Jacket at least at night (and might prefer it during the day in overcast weather/rain). I would nver wear sneakers in a Latin American city, but thats me.
Hi all knowledgeable mongers:
I am trying to use AT&T to call a ladys cell phone in Bogota and all I get is a quick busy... always.
011-571-315-xxxxxxx and it will not work. She said for cell phone there are a couple of add numbers, perhaps a 03 but she isn't sure, and I don't know where I would stick them. Help.
Thanks
011-57-315-xxx-xxxx
[QUOTE=Master Diver]Hi all knowledgeable mongers:
I am trying to use AT&T to call a ladys cell phone in Bogota and all I get is a quick busy... always.
011-571-315-xxxxxxx and it will not work. She said for cell phone there are a couple of add numbers, perhaps a 03 but she isn't sure, and I don't know where I would stick them. Help.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
A report on a trip I made to Bogotá un March 2007.
I arrived in Eldorado rather late on a Saturday afternoon, with a reservation at Suites Real 85 (thanks again ISG: clean, well located, fairly comfortable, and reasonably priced).
I was a bit tired to go to the "Zona Roja", so I decided to use ISG's hints to find some action closer to the hotel. I walked the carrera 15 to the north (actually I was not so tired!) up to this "no-name-place" close to the Dann Hotel. The place seemed rather dead, but as soon I was in the hall a very tiny girl was running after me saying "Señor, it's here!". I followed her, although I was not convinced: not my type, and I was not even sure she had legal age. But actually, she was not the one that was "acting": a few seconds later, a second girl came in, and explained me the rules and the prices. Obviously, I chose the full service option (and paid 60000, which might be a bit above the normal price: I was expecting 50000; but as I said, I was tired, so I didn't try to bargain). Her name was Daniela, 22, from Medellín (not sure: she had no paisa accent at all). Nice face but noting great. She also told me she was studying to be a pilot (?? well everything is possible in Colombia). We both undressed: her body was average, a thin girl with something of a beginning belly, and big tits. She began with a genuine massage. Really nice: that's the "plus" of such places. Then she began more serious action, with a good blowjob. Then came the fucking: again, nice, above average, but nothing great. The good side was that the girl seamed very clean (she changed the condom twice!), sweet and clever. But my conclusion would be: OK if you are in the north and don't want to bother to go downtown.
The day after, I tried to do some tourism. A disaster: Bush Jr was in Bogotá (not in the same trip as me), and absolutely everything was closed, from the Museo del Oro up to Museo National, including the "Séptima" between both. Even beer bottles had to remain closed (ley seca). So, as cultural activities were forbidden, I walked to Calle 24, looking for Karen, a black girl from Choco I had found there last summer. She was not working, or she was attending Mr. Bush, I don't know exactly, but in any case she was not there. So I found another black girl, Isabel, from Cali. 23, very pretty face, nice body (if you like "strong" girls: she might be 1.75 with 70 kgs, but not fat at all). But: very passive, did not seem interested at all at what was happening. Globally: below expectations. But don't cry: it was only 25000 pesos (10 euros), including the room. She told me she would do "toda la noche" for 150000. Sure that could be bargained, but I was not really interested.
On Monday, I came back in the same area, and this time, Karen was there, at the same place (15 and 24). I am nothing special, but I am sure she recognized me (she even remember we had to dress in a hurry because of the "Policia de Menores" making a "control in the house. Well she was the same, with 9 months more: average face, but incredible body (she told me she is 28, with no child: that might explain), a lot of fun, and at least an apparent interest in sex. Again: a very good experience.
Nothing in the following days, as I was working full time (a pity, but sometimes you have to justify your business class ticket). But at night, I was connecting myself to a well-known dating website and, targeting the 35-45 year-old ladies, I got a contact with a few Colombian señoras. It is incredibly easy (assuming you speak Spanish) to get e-mail addresses, pictures and even phone numbers. I talked to a few of them, and one agreed to meet me on Saturday. Guess what happened? I insist: I'm talking about absolute non-pros. The one I met was engineer, had a good job, owns her house and her car... and I did not promise anything, so she was making no dream or illusion at all: I really believe she was just looking for fun. Well she was not a beauty (a bit chubby) but not ugly, and clever, educated and nice. A very interesting experience that definitely you (or at least I) cannot have in Europe nor (I guess) in the US.
Hoping to be back as soon as possible.
A question: I've heard during this trip that there are also SW in Chapinero, below the Caracas. Can anybody confirm? Any experience? Is the place safe? (I think not a problem in daytime, but what about the evening).
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[QUOTE=Elfrances]I was a bit tired to go to the "Zona Roja", so I decided to use ISG's hints to find some action closer to the hotel. I walked the carrera 15 to the north (actually I was not so tired!) up to this "no-name-place" close to the Dann Hotel. [size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size][/QUOTE]Just curious, I'm in Bogota until Saturday morning. Just happen to be at the Hoteles Dann in Bogota. Where is this place you mention from the Hoteles Dann entrance side? If you don't mind please.
Rastalova,
The address is Carrera 15 numero 104-03. Just after the Hotel Dann (but caution: there are various "Dann Hotel" in Bogota, at least another one downtown).
It looks like an ordinary building door, with a "portero" that will probably tell you where to go if you look unsure. The palce I visited was on the ground floor (planta baja), but there might have others.
Have a nice trip.
Elfrancés
[QUOTE=Master Diver]Hi all knowledgeable mongers:
I am trying to use AT&T to call a ladys cell phone in Bogota and all I get is a quick busy... always.
011-571-315-xxxxxxx and it will not work. She said for cell phone there are a couple of add numbers, perhaps a 03 but she isn't sure, and I don't know where I would stick them. Help.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
The correct number here would be 011 57 315 xxx xxxx
For landlines bogota 011 57 031 xxx xxxx.
City/Province prefixes are 1 bog, 5 cartagena etc. Prefix with 03.
[QUOTE=Hermescali]Long trousers (Jeans ok) and a polo or normal shirt during the day. You will need a Jacket at least at night (and might prefer it during the day in overcast weather/rain). I would nver wear sneakers in a Latin American city, but thats me.[/QUOTE]In most countries in Latin America sneakers are reserved for atheletic evolutions and not everyday street wear. You are usually safe with the jeans or khakis and some type of deck shoes whether on the street or in the clubs. Like Hermes said, definitely do not forget the jacket. If you are in Bogota you will definitely need it. In other cities in the region with lower altitudes you would go without it though.
My 6 day trip:
FLIGHT: I took a Delta flight out of Atlanta on April 18th and changed planes in Miami, taking Avianca into Bogota. Everything went perfectly. Upon entering immigration and customs in Bogota, I passed through very quickly, even though at customs they have the red and green light switch, to see who passes on through and whose bags get checked. I ended up getting the red and having my luggage searched, but had no problems, and it only took a few extra minutes. On my return flight to Atlanta, it was a direct flight on Delta. I have to say that of all the airlines I have flown in my life, Delta’s flight attendants are the ugliest I have ever seen!. They were fat, old, and just outright dogs.
Money Exchange: Immediately upon exiting customs you basically run into a cambio. I had no problem exchanging my money, and exchanged $400.00 dollars. I also was able to get a date with one of the representatives working in the cambio. I will elaborate on that later. Cambio’s are spread throughout the city, but do not use any of them that is a money gram or western union location, as you will be ripped off in a big way. ATM’s at banks are everywhere.
Apartment: I stayed in an apartment that was recommended to me by a good friend. It was on Calle 22- 48. The apartment was gorgeous. It was a three bedroom apartment that was super clean, spacious; the furniture in the dining room was antique and very beautiful. It had two baths with showers, with one bath good size. The bedrooms had very large closets where you could actually hang your clothes up. I say this because I have run across so many in my travels where there was little or no space to hang your items. The apartment also came furnished with nice kitchen utensils, coffee maker, nice appliances, e.t.c.. You also got free use of a landline telephone. This apartment was secured with a gate entrance, activated by a security guard who was on duty 24/7. They were all great guys, who were very accommodating to anything you might need. The negative of this apartment was the hot water, as it was mildly warm. I guess this goes for pretty much all of Colombia from what I understand. The cost of this apartment was $400.00 for the week.
Taxi’s: I got around by using the little yellow public taxi’s, and anyone taking them better have an good understanding of the denominations of the peso, or you will be ripped off before you know it. The taxi drivers in Bogota are the biggest criminals in the city as far as I am concerned. I am willing to bet more than half of them tried to rip me off, and it was not only because I was a gringo. However, one of my girls I had with me also dealt with the same bullshit despite being a Colombiana. Anyone taking one of these taxi’s make sure the meter is on, and that they have a card hanging off the front passenger seat, or somewhere visible for you to review, as this card is a guide to the cost of your ride to different zones in the city.
Mongering: This trip I was only interested in non-pros, so I am sorry for those who are interested in a report seeking information on P4P. My first night happened to fall on a Wednesday. I got to the bars in the heart of Zona Rosa at about 9:30pm and the streets were literally dead!. I would have thought in this particular area it would be hopping even on a Wednesday night. I was in a variety of bars along carerra 11 and 12. Some of the bars I stopped in were the Bogota Beer Company, The Irish Pub, Tabu, Tropical Cocktails, and ended up at Maria Mullata. All of these places had very few single women, and this was the case most of the time I was in Bogota. I found this really surprising. I was also not very impressed by any of the bars or disco’s I entered during my entire stay. I found most of the bars were sit at a table type of places, and that is not me at all. I like to be standing at a bar and being able to walk around. Another thing I found is the beer is never fcuking cold. No matter where I went in Bogota, and no matter if I drank Colombian Beer or Corona, it was ALWAYS warm, and I had to get a glass of ice, as warm beer and me do not go together!. While in Maria Mullata’s I did meet a morena who was celebrating her birthday. She turned out to be a super person, but sexually was beyond poor in performance. She is also very successful professionally, as she is in senior level management of a very well known corporation in Bogota. I will post photos of her in the photo gallery when I have some time to download them, but will have to cover at least the eyes for the obvious reasons. She ended up spending the night with me, and the following morning we went out for breakfast. She then wanted to show me her office, and wanted to introduced me to many of her co-workers so that is what took place. She then returned me to my apartment and stated she wanted to see me again on Friday, and take me to Giradot to provide me an opportunity to see life outside of the city of Bogota.
On Thursday afternoon, I went and checked out some dentists and plastic surgeons that I had set up consultations with prior to arriving in Bogota, as I would like to get some dental and cosmetic type of things done. These types of things are 60 percent or more cheaper to have done in Colombia than in the United States. On Thursday night, I again did the bar/disco scene, hitting Palos de Mogeur, Rock Garden, Red Lion, and the bars I previously mentioned above. The action again was dead, so I ended up back at my apartment very discouraged with the non-pro action in Bogota.
On Friday morning, my friend from Wednesday night did call as planned. At around 1pm we went to Giradot, which is in the Tierra de Caliente. (Hot lands). The bus ride provided me a great opportunity to see the countryside of Colombia, and it took 3 hours to get there, a long fcuking ride, which I do not think I would do again. Giradot is very humid, unlike Bogota, where it rains almost every day, and the nights are cold. In Giradot we stayed at the Giradot Royal Hotel, which was very cheap and clean. The room rate was only $30.00 for the night. The hotel had a nice swimming pool, a small bar, and the lobby area had nice plush couches and chairs to sit on, if you wanted to watch TV e.t.c. The room itself had a queen size bed; satellite TV, air conditioning, and the bathroom and shower were nice size. Again, the water was only mildly warm, but the shower as in my apartment had great water pressure. At around 6pm we went to a restaurant for dinner. This is where I got freaked out. My friend ordered fish and got the whole fish served on a platter. We were having a nice conversation while we were eating, and the next thing I know she breaks off the cooked head of this fish and sucks out the eyeballs, and then opens the head up and sucks the brains and whatever shit is inside of it out. I told her that that is fcuking gross and she tells me delicioso!. I wanted to puke right there!. I looked around and saw others doing the same damn thing, as this fish was the special of the day, so many others had ordered it as well. I guess to Colombians this must be a delicacy for lack of a better word. I never even finished my dinner, and every time the rest of my trip if soup was part of my meal, I checked it out to make sure what I was eating was suited to my taste!. I usually always it seafood, and I found in Bogota that with a seafood meal, most of the time a soup of fish or a combination of seafood is included with the dinner. We ended up after dinner going back to the hotel where I made her brush her teeth, :) and then we went barhopping, eventually hitting a disco that was very awesome. I cannot think of the name of it for the sake of me, but it had three floors, with a backdrop of a waterfall, and it was located right on central commercial. The music was all dance type music by Colombian artists. It never got busy until about 11:00pm. The majority of the people there were couples, or groups of people. I saw very little of single women hanging out.
On Saturday morning we got up and went and had breakfast a couple of blocks up a big hill from the hotel and then got the bus back to Bogota, as I told her I had business to take care of. After arriving back in Bogota we parted ways and agreed to continue our friendship into the indefinite future. I then headed out to Commercial Central once again; this is a very busy and hustling area where it is fun just to watch all the people pass by. I ended up walking by a Photo Japon store, where another morena caught my eye. I ended up walking into Photo Japon and up to this girl and told her straight out she was very beautiful, and asked if she was single. She told me yes, so I asked her if it was possible to get her phone number, as I would love the opportunity to get to know her further, and she obliged. I then told her I would like to take her to dinner and out for some drinks, which she agreed to. We then agreed I would call her at 7pm, which I did do. She then came over to my apartment, and from there we proceeded to a restaurant, which I cannot think of the name of at the moment, but will post it as soon as it comes to my mind. This was a very romantic and upscale restaurant, and one I would highly recommend. We both had steak and shrimp and it was excellent. As I noted, this place is a great place to take a date to impress her, or to have a GFE. After dinner, it was her recommendation we hit Zona Rosa, I was playing dumb at this point, and acted like I never had heard of the place or what it had to offer. We then again went on a bar hopping tour, as many of the bars had lines waiting to enter such as in the Bogota Beer Company. We must have gone to 10 to 12 bars/discos, but again I was not impressed by anyone of them, even on a Saturday night. I also did not see many single women in general. I just do not understand this at all, as here is Big Bogota, and I am in the heart of the nightlife, and not much action with single women roaming around. Anyway, my friend and I had a great time together, and got pretty fcuked up on beer and tequila before returning to my apartment where we fcuked until daylight. This girl was the complete opposite of the other one I had, as she was excellent in her performance.
At around 12pm (Sunday now) she got up and showered. She then went to the tienda across the street from the apartment, and purchased some items to make breakfast with. The next thing I knew, I was getting coffee and breakfast in bed. :) At around 2:30pm she left my apartment, as we agreed to stay in contact, and hopefully see each other again. She actually wanted to spend the entire day with me, but I made up the excuse I had to get some work done. I will also post some pics of her, but she would not allow me to take any nudes, and in-fact hated her picture being taken. The reason I had to tell her I had work to do, was because as I stated in the first part of this report, after I had existed customs I went to the cambio, and got the representatives phone number. I approached her the same way I did the girl in Photo Japon. I told her immediately upon seeing her that she was very beautiful, and asked her if she was single, and to my surprise she yes.:) I then called her each day of my stay just to say hello, as a way to stay in touch, as I did not want to lose the opportunity to be with her. The reason I had to see her on Sunday was this was her only day off of work. She was a paisa. Just as the other girls did, she came over to my apartment, and then in a taxi we proceeded to go get something to eat. We then went to a movie and after it ended we hit a bar that served appetizers. It was at this point that I had to work my ass off, as she was very adamant about not wanting to spend the night with me, as this was her first date with me. To make a long story short, I pulled out every move I have ever known, and it finally worked. She was good in bed, and provided a great GFE once I got her warmed up, but that took a lot of work as well, as she agreed to stay with me but sex was not apart of our deal. We ended up getting up at around 8am, she showered, and off she went.
As it is now Monday, I ended up going to my last consultations. At around 3pm I went and got some chicken to eat, and the next thing I knew I was vomiting sick, which really ruined my last opportunity to get out, as my intentions were to hit the streets of Santa Fe to check out the P4P scene. I knew being Monday, it was very unlikely that I could pick up a non-pro in a bar/disco environment. I also was departing on Tuesday morning so I had to leave for the airport at 6am.
Summary of my trip: To anyone who is considering what city to go to in Colombia to monger. Do not even think of going to Bogota, unless your Spanish is above conversational, as you will be lost. This is especially true if you are looking to meet non-pro’s. Stick to Cartagena and Medellin. I was very disappointed at the number of beautiful women I had seen. They were far and few in between, which surprised me considering the number of people in Bogota. As you can gather from my report, the nightlife scene really sucks, unless I am missing something. The service in bars/restaurants is very poor, as it takes forever to be served. As stated earlier in this post, beware of the taxi drivers ripping you off, and know the denominations of the pesos’ you are spending to the dollar if that is your normal currency. The temperature in Bogota is in the 60’s during the day with rain, and in the 40’s at night. As far as dress goes, the girls seem to prefer us guys in non-formal wear, such as a nice pair of jeans, dress shirt, and some type of shoe that is casual to dress, but do not think of wearing tennis shoes. I hope to return to Bogota for 3 weeks, probably in July to have my dental work and plastic surgery done, and at this time, I will spend some time doing the P4P thing. I know this post sounds very negative in nature, but I did very much enjoy the time I had spent in Bogota, but what I reported on is reality from my perspective.
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Good post. It actually sounds like your trip wasnt so bad. You spent quite a bit of time with 3 non-pros and it looks like it was relatively easy for you to meet them.
I think you were discouraged with the night life and meeting non-pros or even single ladies in disco/nightlife environment. That makes sense. I have posted a few times that you should always spend the day finding your date and take her out at night. Colombia is not like the US where you can approach females in a disco and have them give you attention.... ok at least not for the most part. You should not look for non-pros in a bar or disco, they just won't give you the time of day. You can meet an absolute 10 in the daytime, ask her out, take her to dinner and dancing and screw her all night.... or you can try to pick up the exact same 10 at a disco and I shit you not, she will not even say hello when you start talking to her.
Maybe that answers why you did not enjoy the non-pro scene. You were looking to meet them in the evening... which is a definite strike out. It's a culture thing.
All in all though it looks like you had your hands full most of the trip with non-pros. The only thing I'd really disagree with is the part about sticking to Cartagena or Medellin for non-pros. I'd absolutely say forget Cartagena for non-pros, though it is apparent you prefer Morenas, thus you are correct and you are probably much better off in Cartagena for non-pros.
[QUOTE=UrbanWildlife]My 6 day trip:
FLIGHT: I took a Delta flight out of Atlanta on April 18th and changed planes in Miami, taking Avianca into Bogota. Everything went perfectly. Upon entering immigration and customs in Bogota, I passed through very quickly, even though at customs they have the red and green light switch, to see who passes on through and whose bags get checked. I ended up getting the red and having my luggage searched, but had no problems, and it only took a few extra minutes. On my return flight to Atlanta, it was a direct flight on Delta. I have to say that of all the airlines I have flown in my life, Delta’s flight attendants are the ugliest I have ever seen!. They were fat, old, and just outright dogs.
Money Exchange: Immediately upon exiting customs you basically run into a cambio. I had no problem exchanging my money, and exchanged $400.00 dollars. I also was able to get a date with one of the representatives working in the cambio. I will elaborate on that later. Cambio’s are spread throughout the city, but do not use any of them that is a money gram or western union location, as you will be ripped off in a big way. ATM’s at banks are everywhere.
Apartment: I stayed in an apartment that was recommended to me by a good friend. It was on Calle 22- 48. The apartment was gorgeous. It was a three bedroom apartment that was super clean, spacious; the furniture in the dining room was antique and very beautiful. It had two baths with showers, with one bath good size. The bedrooms had very large closets where you could actually hang your clothes up. I say this because I have run across so many in my travels where there was little or no space to hang your items. The apartment also came furnished with nice kitchen utensils, coffee maker, nice appliances, e.t.c.. You also got free use of a landline telephone. This apartment was secured with a gate entrance, activated by a security guard who was on duty 24/7. They were all great guys, who were very accommodating to anything you might need. The negative of this apartment was the hot water, as it was mildly warm. I guess this goes for pretty much all of Colombia from what I understand. The cost of this apartment was $400.00 for the week.
Taxi’s: I got around by using the little yellow public taxi’s, and anyone taking them better have an good understanding of the denominations of the peso, or you will be ripped off before you know it. The taxi drivers in Bogota are the biggest criminals in the city as far as I am concerned. I am willing to bet more than half of them tried to rip me off, and it was not only because I was a gringo. However, one of my girls I had with me also dealt with the same bullshit despite being a Colombiana. Anyone taking one of these taxi’s make sure the meter is on, and that they have a card hanging off the front passenger seat, or somewhere visible for you to review, as this card is a guide to the cost of your ride to different zones in the city.
Mongering: This trip I was only interested in non-pros, so I am sorry for those who are interested in a report seeking information on P4P. My first night happened to fall on a Wednesday. I got to the bars in the heart of Zona Rosa at about 9:30pm and the streets were literally dead!. I would have thought in this particular area it would be hopping even on a Wednesday night. I was in a variety of bars along carerra 11 and 12. Some of the bars I stopped in were the Bogota Beer Company, The Irish Pub, Tabu, Tropical Cocktails, and ended up at Maria Mullata. All of these places had very few single women, and this was the case most of the time I was in Bogota. I found this really surprising. I was also not very impressed by any of the bars or disco’s I entered during my entire stay. I found most of the bars were sit at a table type of places, and that is not me at all. I like to be standing at a bar and being able to walk around. Another thing I found is the beer is never fcuking cold. No matter where I went in Bogota, and no matter if I drank Colombian Beer or Corona, it was ALWAYS warm, and I had to get a glass of ice, as warm beer and me do not go together!. While in Maria Mullata’s I did meet a morena who was celebrating her birthday. She turned out to be a super person, but sexually was beyond poor in performance. She is also very successful professionally, as she is in senior level management of a very well known corporation in Bogota. I will post photos of her in the photo gallery when I have some time to download them, but will have to cover at least the eyes for the obvious reasons. She ended up spending the night with me, and the following morning we went out for breakfast. She then wanted to show me her office, and wanted to introduced me to many of her co-workers so that is what took place. She then returned me to my apartment and stated she wanted to see me again on Friday, and take me to Giradot to provide me an opportunity to see life outside of the city of Bogota.
On Thursday afternoon, I went and checked out some dentists and plastic surgeons that I had set up consultations with prior to arriving in Bogota, as I would like to get some dental and cosmetic type of things done. These types of things are 60 percent or more cheaper to have done in Colombia than in the United States. On Thursday night, I again did the bar/disco scene, hitting Palos de Mogeur, Rock Garden, Red Lion, and the bars I previously mentioned above. The action again was dead, so I ended up back at my apartment very discouraged with the non-pro action in Bogota.
On Friday morning, my friend from Wednesday night did call as planned. At around 1pm we went to Giradot, which is in the Tierra de Caliente. (Hot lands). The bus ride provided me a great opportunity to see the countryside of Colombia, and it took 3 hours to get there, a long fcuking ride, which I do not think I would do again. Giradot is very humid, unlike Bogota, where it rains almost every day, and the nights are cold. In Giradot we stayed at the Giradot Royal Hotel, which was very cheap and clean. The room rate was only $30.00 for the night. The hotel had a nice swimming pool, a small bar, and the lobby area had nice plush couches and chairs to sit on, if you wanted to watch TV e.t.c. The room itself had a queen size bed; satellite TV, air conditioning, and the bathroom and shower were nice size. Again, the water was only mildly warm, but the shower as in my apartment had great water pressure. At around 6pm we went to a restaurant for dinner. This is where I got freaked out. My friend ordered fish and got the whole fish served on a platter. We were having a nice conversation while we were eating, and the next thing I know she breaks off the cooked head of this fish and sucks out the eyeballs, and then opens the head up and sucks the brains and whatever shit is inside of it out. I told her that that is fcuking gross and she tells me delicioso!. I wanted to puke right there!. I looked around and saw others doing the same damn thing, as this fish was the special of the day, so many others had ordered it as well. I guess to Colombians this must be a delicacy for lack of a better word. I never even finished my dinner, and every time the rest of my trip if soup was part of my meal, I checked it out to make sure what I was eating was suited to my taste!. I usually always it seafood, and I found in Bogota that with a seafood meal, most of the time a soup of fish or a combination of seafood is included with the dinner. We ended up after dinner going back to the hotel where I made her brush her teeth, :) and then we went barhopping, eventually hitting a disco that was very awesome. I cannot think of the name of it for the sake of me, but it had three floors, with a backdrop of a waterfall, and it was located right on central commercial. The music was all dance type music by Colombian artists. It never got busy until about 11:00pm. The majority of the people there were couples, or groups of people. I saw very little of single women hanging out.
On Saturday morning we got up and went and had breakfast a couple of blocks up a big hill from the hotel and then got the bus back to Bogota, as I told her I had business to take care of. After arriving back in Bogota we parted ways and agreed to continue our friendship into the indefinite future. I then headed out to Commercial Central once again; this is a very busy and hustling area where it is fun just to watch all the people pass by. I ended up walking by a Photo Japon store, where another morena caught my eye. I ended up walking into Photo Japon and up to this girl and told her straight out she was very beautiful, and asked if she was single. She told me yes, so I asked her if it was possible to get her phone number, as I would love the opportunity to get to know her further, and she obliged. I then told her I would like to take her to dinner and out for some drinks, which she agreed to. We then agreed I would call her at 7pm, which I did do. She then came over to my apartment, and from there we proceeded to a restaurant, which I cannot think of the name of at the moment, but will post it as soon as it comes to my mind. This was a very romantic and upscale restaurant, and one I would highly recommend. We both had steak and shrimp and it was excellent. As I noted, this place is a great place to take a date to impress her, or to have a GFE. After dinner, it was her recommendation we hit Zona Rosa, I was playing dumb at this point, and acted like I never had heard of the place or what it had to offer. We then again went on a bar hopping tour, as many of the bars had lines waiting to enter such as in the Bogota Beer Company. We must have gone to 10 to 12 bars/discos, but again I was not impressed by anyone of them, even on a Saturday night. I also did not see many single women in general. I just do not understand this at all, as here is Big Bogota, and I am in the heart of the nightlife, and not much action with single women roaming around. Anyway, my friend and I had a great time together, and got pretty fcuked up on beer and tequila before returning to my apartment where we fcuked until daylight. This girl was the complete opposite of the other one I had, as she was excellent in her performance.
At around 12pm (Sunday now) she got up and showered. She then went to the tienda across the street from the apartment, and purchased some items to make breakfast with. The next thing I knew, I was getting coffee and breakfast in bed. :) At around 2:30pm she left my apartment, as we agreed to stay in contact, and hopefully see each other again. She actually wanted to spend the entire day with me, but I made up the excuse I had to get some work done. I will also post some pics of her, but she would not allow me to take any nudes, and in-fact hated her picture being taken. The reason I had to tell her I had work to do, was because as I stated in the first part of this report, after I had existed customs I went to the cambio, and got the representatives phone number. I approached her the same way I did the girl in Photo Japon. I told her immediately upon seeing her that she was very beautiful, and asked her if she was single, and to my surprise she yes.:) I then called her each day of my stay just to say hello, as a way to stay in touch, as I did not want to lose the opportunity to be with her. The reason I had to see her on Sunday was this was her only day off of work. She was a paisa. Just as the other girls did, she came over to my apartment, and then in a taxi we proceeded to go get something to eat. We then went to a movie and after it ended we hit a bar that served appetizers. It was at this point that I had to work my ass off, as she was very adamant about not wanting to spend the night with me, as this was her first date with me. To make a long story short, I pulled out every move I have ever known, and it finally worked. She was good in bed, and provided a great GFE once I got her warmed up, but that took a lot of work as well, as she agreed to stay with me but sex was not apart of our deal. We ended up getting up at around 8am, she showered, and off she went.
As it is now Monday, I ended up going to my last consultations. At around 3pm I went and got some chicken to eat, and the next thing I knew I was vomiting sick, which really ruined my last opportunity to get out, as my intentions were to hit the streets of Santa Fe to check out the P4P scene. I knew being Monday, it was very unlikely that I could pick up a non-pro in a bar/disco environment. I also was departing on Tuesday morning so I had to leave for the airport at 6am.
Summary of my trip: To anyone who is considering what city to go to in Colombia to monger. Do not even think of going to Bogota, unless your Spanish is above conversational, as you will be lost. This is especially true if you are looking to meet non-pro’s. Stick to Cartagena and Medellin. I was very disappointed at the number of beautiful women I had seen. They were far and few in between, which surprised me considering the number of people in Bogota. As you can gather from my report, the nightlife scene really sucks, unless I am missing something. The service in bars/restaurants is very poor, as it takes forever to be served. As stated earlier in this post, beware of the taxi drivers ripping you off, and know the denominations of the pesos’ you are spending to the dollar if that is your normal currency. The temperature in Bogota is in the 60’s during the day with rain, and in the 40’s at night. As far as dress goes, the girls seem to prefer us guys in non-formal wear, such as a nice pair of jeans, dress shirt, and some type of shoe that is casual to dress, but do not think of wearing tennis shoes. I hope to return to Bogota for 3 weeks, probably in July to have my dental work and plastic surgery done, and at this time, I will spend some time doing the P4P thing. I know this post sounds very negative in nature, but I did very much enjoy the time I had spent in Bogota, but what I reported on is reality from my perspective.
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Your experience pretty much mirrors my experiences in Colombia. The bars are usually dead except for Friday night. Then when you go you will never see the women alone or maybe with only one girlfriend. You will see Colombians in groups of men and women together, most of the time they are all just friends. But this is definitely not the right time to approach a woman.
As Winner said, you did right by approaching the women in the day hours when they were at work or just walking along the street. This has never failed for me.
To me, Colombian women are the best in the world as far as reliability and dependability. I have never had a Colombian woman tell me she was going to do something and not do it. (Peru is second). In Brazil and other countries many of the women are not reliable. They will waste your time just like an AW.
I only have limited mongering experience there, as I have only mongered for ST in Santa Fe. My first time there I was ripped off by the taxi driver. I did not know anything about Bogota and barely spoke Spanish. I jumped in the taxi and said, "Donde estan las mujeres? " He drove me about 5 minutes to Santa Fe and said 10, 000 pesos. I did not know any better until the trip back with another taxi driver was only 4, 000 pesos. But I figured it was still worth the 10000 for me to know where the mongering spot was. Taxi drivers will also try you back and forth to the airport. They usually want to get me for at least 15, 000 pesos. I tell them that I am always in Bogota and I always pay 11, 000. We usually settle at 12.
As you said, Spanish is a must in Bogota. Don't even think of leaving the airport without basic Spanish. Even in the service industries such as hotels, you will not find many people speaking English.
The only think we disagree on is beautiful women. IMHO Bogota is loaded with beautiful women. When I am at the airport or either downtown my head doesn't stop turning. But I guess everybody's tastes are different. Other than that, I don't think you missed anything and your experiece was pretty much the same to my own experiences of the country.
[QUOTE=UrbanWildlife]My 6 day trip:
This trip I was only interested in non-pros, so I am sorry for those who are interested in a report seeking information on P4P. Some of the bars I stopped in were the Bogota Beer Company, The Irish Pub, Tabu, Tropical Cocktails, and ended up at Maria Mullata. All of these places had very few single women, and this was the case most of the time I was in Bogota.
On Friday morning, my friend from Wednesday night did call as planned.
I ended up walking into Photo Japon and up to this girl and told her straight out she was very beautiful, and asked if she was single. She told me yes, so I asked her if it was possible to get her phone number, as I would love the opportunity to get to know her further, and she obliged. I then told her I would like to take her to dinner and out for some drinks, which she agreed to. We then agreed I would call her at 7pm, which I did do. She then came over to my apartment, and from there we proceeded to a restaurant
I went to the cambio, and got the representatives phone number. I approached her the same way I did the girl in Photo Japon. I told her immediately upon seeing her that she was very beautiful, and asked her if she was single, and to my surprise she yes.:) I then called her each day of my stay just to say hello, as a way to stay in touch, as I did not want to lose the opportunity to be with her.
Summary of my trip: To anyone who is considering what city to go to in Colombia to monger. Do not even think of going to Bogota, unless your Spanish is above conversational, as you will be lost. This is especially true if you are looking to meet non-pro’s. I was very disappointed at the number of beautiful women I had seen. They were far and few in between, which surprised me considering the number of people in Bogota. As you can gather from my report, the nightlife scene really sucks, unless I am missing something. I know this post sounds very negative in nature, but I did very much enjoy the time I had spent in Bogota, but what I reported on is reality from my perspective.
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BULLSHIT....
hooking up in bars in Bogota is EASY, especially as an exotic foreigner. As a matter of fact, you generally will NOT find them during the day, they're looking for it at night, and the bars are the place, just like anywhere else on Earth!
However if you don't speak any Spanish just how are you gonna go about it?
ESPECIALLY in Bogota your Spanish has to be not only fluent, but it has to be good quality too, people in that town are very formal, especially with people they just met. If you speak Nuyorican slang with English words all over the place never used 'usted' in your life, you ain't gonna make a good impression with anybody but the bottom rung of the social ladder. In THAT aspect Bogota is NOTHING like the US. They'll cut you a little slack for being a foreigner, but communication is key!
Personally I wouldn't recommend ANYWHERE in Colombia either for pro OR non-pro action unless your Spanish is decent. If you want Colombian pussy and your Spanish isn't up to par, stick to Curacao or Aruba maybe, or even CR. If you want non-pro Colombian pussy, well frankly, I dunno how you'd do any better than that poster did without great Spanish. Even in NYC or Miami, why are they going to give you the time of day if you can't even relate to them on their own level?
Also, if you are in a dance bar (this poster wasn't but just as an aside) and you can't dance you are almost certainly wasting your time. The two ways into a Colombiana's secret garden are by dancing and getting them hot and bothered, and by chatting them up and making them laugh, Colombians are the most fucking verbose people on Earth. Colombian guys pick up women in bars with real great stimulating conversation, seeing some of these guys at work is fucking unbelievable!! :P
[QUOTE=Bango Cheito]BULLSHIT....
hooking up in bars in Bogota is EASY, especially as an exotic foreigner. As a matter of fact, you generally will NOT find them during the day, they're looking for it at night, and the bars are the place, just like anywhere else on Earth!
[/QUOTE]You really must be something special Bango, as I just lived the experience, and as I stated in my report, I did not see that many single women even in the bars/discos, and I was in the major bars/discos featured on this site, and in Zona Rosa. As a matter of fact you can go back through all the Bogota reports, and you will be lucky to find one to support your post.
Keep up your good work, and I look forward to your reports on hooking up in Bogota with the non-pros, and you sharing the pictures with us. Hopefully this will be soon!
I just went back through 4 pages of your posts Bango, and 85 to 90 percent of them are on the Morality of Prostitution, and American Women, but not one report on the non-pro action in Bogota, or anywhere else in Colombia. It is quite funny how you seem to be such an authority/expert on the action in Bogota, and have such a strong knowledge of Colombian women, but yet I cannot find a first hand post by you supporting your expertise!
Please share your first hand experiences, knowledge, and wisdom with us on getting non-pros and leave the posting of the Morality of Prostitution and American women for another day. As stated in my previous post, share with us some pics as well.
Thank you!
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]
To me, Colombian women are the best in the world as far as reliability and dependability. I have never had a Colombian woman tell me she was going to do something and not do it. (Peru is second). In Brazil and other countries many of the women are not reliable. They will waste your time just like an AW.
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If the Colombiana digs you, she'll be there for you, that's for sure.
If she's not into you, well, good luck, best to move on.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]
As Winner said, you did right by approaching the women in the day hours when they were at work or just walking along the street. This has never failed for me.
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I'll have to agree with this 100 percent ... no doubt!!
I've been running around Colombia for years and for me, meeting chicas in the daytime is by far the easiest.
I've had some success in Bars/Discos at night, but like guys have said here, most of the time they are in groups and less approachable.
Of course I rarely use the "usted" word ....
That's a joke .... hahaha.
Suerte amigos!
By the way ... speaking of hot Bogota chicas ... I met the sweetest, prettiest chica in Barranquilla ... was raving to her about "mi dulce Costenita" (my sweet coastal chica) ... and she told me her and her family were from Bogota ... imaginate! Now she's my "dulce Rolita" :)
[QUOTE=UrbanWildlife]I just went back through 4 pages of your posts Bango, and 85 to 90 percent of them are on the Morality of Prostitution, and American Women, but not one report on the non-pro action in Bogota, or anywhere else in Colombia. It is quite funny how you seem to be such an authority/expert on the action in Bogota, and have such a strong knowledge of Colombian women, but yet I cannot find a first hand post by you supporting your expertise!
Please share your first hand experiences, knowledge, and wisdom with us on getting non-pros and leave the posting of the Morality of Prostitution and American women for another day. As stated in my previous post, share with us some pics as well.
Thank you![/QUOTE]
Well since you asked, personally I think looking for non-pro action in ANY city is a waste of time and the easiest and best thing to do is pay for it, but hey, to each his own. So you will NEVER find any reports on non-pro action from me, you will however find reports on p4p in the NYC (although we are no longer allowed by the promoters to post any info on parties anymore) Montreal Rio AND Bogota sections. Jackson seems to have valued my contributions enough to give me Senior Member status, so I must have SOME use around here :P
I'm talking based on my fiancée and her friends' experience. She lives in Bogota and I live in NYC (until they finish building our apartment in Bogotá), but we still fuck other people, we're not very big on the whole monogamy tip, been there, done that. I just go out and do p4p every once in a while, she and her friends go out (AT NIGHT) and pick guys up in bars. So SOMEBODY is scoring with these girls.
I'm also talking from past experience with Colombianas in NYC Miami and Toronto, not to mention in Brazil and Quebec. If you want to score with a non-pro in ANY of those places, I'd say first order of business is to learn the language and the culture well, and then you won't be 'missing anything'.
[QUOTE=Bango Cheito]BULLSHIT....
hooking up in bars in Bogota is EASY, especially as an exotic foreigner. As a matter of fact, you generally will NOT find them during the day, they're looking for it at night, and the bars are the place, just like anywhere else on Earth!
However if you don't speak any Spanish just how are you gonna go about it?
ESPECIALLY in Bogota your Spanish has to be not only fluent, but it has to be good quality too, people in that town are very formal, especially with people they just met. If you speak Nuyorican slang with English words all over the place never used 'usted' in your life, you ain't gonna make a good impression with anybody but the bottom rung of the social ladder. In THAT aspect Bogota is NOTHING like the US. They'll cut you a little slack for being a foreigner, but communication is key!
Personally I wouldn't recommend ANYWHERE in Colombia either for pro OR non-pro action unless your Spanish is decent. If you want Colombian pussy and your Spanish isn't up to par, stick to Curacao or Aruba maybe, or even CR. If you want non-pro Colombian pussy, well frankly, I dunno how you'd do any better than that poster did without great Spanish. Even in NYC or Miami, why are they going to give you the time of day if you can't even relate to them on their own level?
Also, if you are in a dance bar (this poster wasn't but just as an aside) and you can't dance you are almost certainly wasting your time. The two ways into a Colombiana's secret garden are by dancing and getting them hot and bothered, and by chatting them up and making them laugh, Colombians are the most fucking verbose people on Earth. Colombian guys pick up women in bars with real great stimulating conversation, seeing some of these guys at work is fucking unbelievable!! :P[/QUOTE]
Strangely enough Bango, you're totally wrong. Whilst I learnt Spanish and dancing to improve my luck, Bogotá was far from a barren wilderness dereft of even non-pro pussy for me before I did. And I'm about as good looking as a car wreck and don't flash the cash either.
Go figure.
[QUOTE=Bango Cheito]
... If you want to score with a non-pro in ANY of those places, I'd say first order of business is to learn the language and the culture well, and then you won't be 'missing anything'.[/QUOTE]
Well you can't argue with that!
How the heck can you pick up a non-pro if you can't speak to them?
You can only say "hola" and "eres linda" so many times :)
Thank God I speak the language and I'm good-looking ... hahaha :)
Suerte!
[QUOTE=UrbanWildlife]
The taxi drivers in Bogota are the biggest criminals in the city as far as I am concerned. I am willing to bet more than half of them tried to rip me off, and it was not only because I was a gringo.[/QUOTE]
I vary in my opinions about Bogotá's taxi drivers depending on how many of the scum I've had rip me off recently. I make a lot of trips on just a few routes so I do know exactly what the going rate is. And *too* many times I've been ripped off.
But I'm also of the opinion that the times I thought I was getting ripped off initially I probably wasn't. I've also had a few times when the meter showed, and the driver requested, what was clearly _under_ the going rate -- and yes, I did pay him what was correct and advised him to get his meter checked.
But the meter is not reliable: its easy to rig it to overcharge and its never checked.
And if you know you're being overcharged *nobody* is gonna help you: the taxi company doesn't give a fuck and neither do the police.
And yes, this scum is just as happy to rip off the locals as the gringos.
I now know a guy who's buying taxis for his family there, and use those, and those of the extended family by preference, which saves a lot of pain.
Wait a minute. You were raving to your pretty Cachaca about your linda Barranquillera? How did that come across? Ya tienes cajones. If I raved about any other gal to my chica I'd get a whipping.
On another note... tell us about your trip to Barranquilla. I need something to day-dream about today.
[QUOTE=Ricker]I'll have to agree with this 100 percent ... no doubt!!
I've been running around Colombia for years and for me, meeting chicas in the daytime is by far the easiest.
I've had some success in Bars/Discos at night, but like guys have said here, most of the time they are in groups and less approachable.
Of course I rarely use the "usted" word ....
That's a joke .... hahaha.
Suerte amigos!
By the way ... speaking of hot Bogota chicas ... I met the sweetest, prettiest chica in Barranquilla ... was raving to her about "mi dulce Costenita" (my sweet coastal chica) ... and she told me her and her family were from Bogota ... imaginate! Now she's my "dulce Rolita" :)[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Winner71]Wait a minute. You were raving to your pretty Cachaca about your linda Barranquillera? How did that come across? Ya tienes cajones. If I raved about any other gal to my chica I'd get a whipping.
On another note... tell us about your trip to Barranquilla. I need something to day-dream about today.[/QUOTE]
I was talking to the same chica about her.
I thought she was from Barranquilla, but turns out that she lives in Barranquilla but is from Bogota.
I'd never talk to one chica about another's beauty .... I'm dumb but not that stupid :)
Maybe I'll throw a report in the Barranquilla section ... not much mongering though ... I'm looking for amor :)
The best bet for getting a cab on the street is to take the little Twingos and other such cars. The (slightly) bigger ones are the ones that frequently have the altered meters.
Also just like in most other big cities, ALWAYS have exact change for the taxi. They forever try to pull that 'I don't have change' shit on you. And it is NOT customary to tip taxi drivers in Bogota or anywhere else in Colombia.
Taxi fares can vary quite a bit on the same trip due to traffic volume. They were 30-40% lower on car-free day!!!
Also if you can take advantage of it don't be afraid to get on the TransMilenio... during heavy traffic times it is far and away the fastest way around the city!
Hi all, does anyone have a good dato? How much should it cost.
A good club. Does anyone have a suggestion?
Bug
UrbanWildLife,
I'm very interested in hearing how it went in regards to your dental work? Was it worth the trip for that? I'm heavily considering a trip to colombia for just this.
I've just got back from three weeks in Ecuador and Colombia which included 2 days in Bogota. Here's some info which I found out which may assist other first time visitors in addition to the other useful info on this thread.
When I travel I prefer to draw cash out of the local ATM machines because (1) you're sure to get genuine notes and not forgeries and (2) you generally get a decent rate of exchange and don't get ripped off by a bank or money changer. I carry a supply of US dollar notes as a back up for when I can't get to an ATM at the airport.
On arrival at Bogota I looked for an ATM in the arrivals hall. None, only a couple of cambios. I went up to the counter and asked in my very limited Spanish where I could find an ATM. The girl behind the counter said there wasn't one and another tourist changing money at the counter confirmed that there were no ATM's at the airport. So I was obliged to cash some US dollar notes. 2030 pesos to the dollar.. not a great rate. However, when I left Bogota 2 days later, after checking in I went to the departures area on the second floor and discovered several ATM machines representing just about every bank in Colombia. I can't believe that the cambio girl didn't know this and the set up is obviously the way it is to force visitors to use the cambios. I also discovered that it is not necessary to be a departing traveller to access the departures area on the second floor. The security posts at the top of the stairs were all unmanned and it was easy to go up and down unchallenged.
I asked a taxi driver how much into town and he quoted me COP 14K. However, he switched on his meter which started at 25. By the time I got to my hotel the meter showed about 260. I assumed this meant COP 26 K but when I asked the driver to confirm how much I should pay him he said COP 15K. I later discvered that all taxis carry a conversion chart which translates the amount shown on the meter to COP. However, one or two tried to charge me the "amount" shown on the meter.
Incidentally, another taxi driver checked the COP10K note I gave him and said it was a forgery. On closer inspection I found he was right. So, check all notes you're given very carefully. The genuine ones have a distinctive water mark.
I was staying near the financial district and looked on my tourist map for Carrera 15 which, according to a number of posts, is where some MP action is. My map didn't show Calle 104, which is way down the road past Zona Rosa, but Carrera 15 was shown as being quite close to my hotel. But it was a short street and the nearest corner was Calle 24. I strolled down to the corner of Carrera 15 and Calle 24 and found myself in the middle of a mongering area. The area covered about 3 or 4 blocks and every building was either a house/hostal with three to five scantily clad girls outside or a pub or a night club. These all seemed to be operating even though it was only about 3.00 pm. However, beware. One of them ("Bananas") had a very persistent tout who tried to get me to go inside. I declined but he gave me a card on the back of which was a price list for drinks in the "club". Needless to say the prices were outrageous. I walked around the area and found a really cute looking girl who spoke no English but was quite happy to take me to a room inside for COP40K. She handed 20K to the "receptionist" and kept the other 20K for herself. Her performance was quite enjoyable and she had a lovely face and body. I was considering giving her a tip but before I could do so she blew me a kiss and waved goodbye. Clearly she felt she had already been adequately compensated for the services rendered.
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Iron Duke- nice report... yep I learned just like you..
meters in Bogota... I thought the number meant that was what I owed as well. Thus if it says 260 and then they say for example 20k pesos I feel like I got a deal and get out quickly. Of course, just like you, not till later did I find out about the rate sheets.
phony bills... yep 10k is the most popular denomination for falsos, at least from what I've experienced. By the way, ATM machines give out false bills occasionally as well. If they do, you are outta luck as there is no recourse.
ahhh.. if only we could walk down the street in the US and find a sweet and loving florcita for 40k pesos.
[QUOTE=Iron Duke]I've just got back from three weeks in Ecuador and Colombia which included 2 days in Bogota. Here's some info which I found out which may assist other first time visitors in addition to the other useful info on this thread.
When I travel I prefer to draw cash out of the local ATM machines because (1) you're sure to get genuine notes and not forgeries and (2) you generally get a decent rate of exchange and don't get ripped off by a bank or money changer. I carry a supply of US dollar notes as a back up for when I can't get to an ATM at the airport.
On arrival at Bogota I looked for an ATM in the arrivals hall. None, only a couple of cambios. I went up to the counter and asked in my very limited Spanish where I could find an ATM. The girl behind the counter said there wasn't one and another tourist changing money at the counter confirmed that there were no ATM's at the airport. So I was obliged to cash some US dollar notes. 2030 pesos to the dollar.. not a great rate. However, when I left Bogota 2 days later, after checking in I went to the departures area on the second floor and discovered several ATM machines representing just about every bank in Colombia. I can't believe that the cambio girl didn't know this and the set up is obviously the way it is to force visitors to use the cambios. I also discovered that it is not necessary to be a departing traveller to access the departures area on the second floor. The security posts at the top of the stairs were all unmanned and it was easy to go up and down unchallenged.
I asked a taxi driver how much into town and he quoted me COP 14K. However, he switched on his meter which started at 25. By the time I got to my hotel the meter showed about 260. I assumed this meant COP 26 K but when I asked the driver to confirm how much I should pay him he said COP 15K. I later discvered that all taxis carry a conversion chart which translates the amount shown on the meter to COP. However, one or two tried to charge me the "amount" shown on the meter.
Incidentally, another taxi driver checked the COP10K note I gave him and said it was a forgery. On closer inspection I found he was right. So, check all notes you're given very carefully. The genuine ones have a distinctive water mark.
I was staying near the financial district and looked on my tourist map for Carrera 15 which, according to a number of posts, is where some MP action is. My map didn't show Calle 104, which is way down the road past Zona Rosa, but Carrera 15 was shown as being quite close to my hotel. But it was a short street and the nearest corner was Calle 24. I strolled down to the corner of Carrera 15 and Calle 24 and found myself in the middle of a mongering area. The area covered about 3 or 4 blocks and every building was either a house/hostal with three to five scantily clad girls outside or a pub or a night club. These all seemed to be operating even though it was only about 3.00 pm. However, beware. One of them ("Bananas") had a very persistent tout who tried to get me to go inside. I declined but he gave me a card on the back of which was a price list for drinks in the "club". Needless to say the prices were outrageous. I walked around the area and found a really cute looking girl who spoke no English but was quite happy to take me to a room inside for COP40K. She handed 20K to the "receptionist" and kept the other 20K for herself. Her performance was quite enjoyable and she had a lovely face and body. I was considering giving her a tip but before I could do so she blew me a kiss and waved goodbye. Clearly she felt she had already been adequately compensated for the services rendered.
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I think it would be great to have a city/street map of Bogota where guys could go in and annotate where they were able to meet girls. Either bars, brothels, clubs, massage parlors, malls or street action. There could even be a way to link icons on the map from/to reports filed by board members. Of course, if the folks running the board aren't able to do this, maybe one of us could provide a scanned map to someone here on the board who could annotate it and post it. It wouldn't be interactive, but would serve the same purpose of orienting people to the area. Thoughts?
Rodeo
This afternoon, I could manage to be free.
So I decided to visit a place I didn’t know.
I fixed my choice on "Tu y Yo" Calle 52 16-74
When I arrived, I saw a normal house with no sign on it except the address. I ring the bell and a woman open the door inviting me to get in.
I was quite surprised, because you can see that this house is not only a Brothel, but a real house with people living in it.
They have 2 nice rooms decorated with old things like radios, old pictures in old frames, . Well, the house is nice and pleasant.
They immediately proposed to see the girls and the classical ritual started.
The girl enters the room, say her name, give a hand shake and live.
They have no real beautiful girls. I’d say that they are all solid 5/6.
My strategy is always the same: Take the smiling girl!
Her name was Carole, a solid 5, not slim, not fat, not pretty, not ugly, . Let say a normal girl with a nice smile and a good natural breast.
The Mamasan gave me the prices: 30K 30’, 60K 60’, 120 for a duet with the girls doing each other for 30’.
I asked the Mamasan to speak with Carole before deciding me and we started to talk a little bit to know each other, before long, I asked her if she would do BBBJ and she agreed but telling me not to say that to the others, otherwise she would have problems, and of course, this special service would have to be paid apart.
She agreed for 10K for the BBBJ.
After that I asked her if she would do anal and she hesitated a little bit, and then told me "It hurts", so I said forget it.
Then I asked if she would do a duet with another friend, but she told me that if she would go for a duet, she wouldn’t do the BBBJ, so I abandoned the idea of a duet. We went upstairs in a nice room furnished with a not so good bed, a mirror and a TV with porn going on.
This room had a real window with a view on the street, so it is quite luminous. The room has a private bathroom with shower if you can bear cold water.
She asked me if I was still wanting anal, because she would need lub for that and would have to send someone for it as she didn’t have any more.
I asked her if she had changed her mind and that I was not interested in hurting her if she couldn’t stand the pain.
But she insisted and told me that she would do it for 40K, I said ok.
She then left the room and came back 2 minutes later with the lub that another girl had given her.
We got naked and Carole started immediately the BBBJ.
When I tried to put her in 69 for my favourite licking action, she told me that she couldn’t do that because it gives her discharge problems, and that the doctor’s consultation wouldn’t be paid by the money she would do with me!
I was a little bit mad, because there was quite a long time since a girl refused me the DATY. She let me lick her ass, but each time I tried to lick her pussy she would not let me reach it. That’s very frustrating.
But I couldn’t go back at that time, so I renounce to that juicy pussy.
After a good while of very good BBBJ (her oral technique is good), I got covered and start my exploration of Paradise’s door.
We did it in all the classical positions, missionary, doggy, on side, cow girl, reverse cow girl.
After that exhausting exercise, I decided to visit the Hell’s door.
Carole put some lub in her back door and I entered slowly.
I could feel that she had pain, but I asked her to relax while I was moving very lowly.
After 1 minute or so, I started to move faster and deeper till I reached "normal" activity.
Carole remained tough, and didn’t complain. After 2 or 3 minutes of that, she proposed to do it doggy, and there we go, but she couldn’t stand the pain and we had to come back on our side.
I think that I remained some 15 minutes in her Hell’s door. Poor girl'
After that I took a short break to recover a little bit, she then cleaned the condom and sat on me for a cow girl round (Paradise’s door).
I was seeing the clock and I knew that I had less than a quarter to go, so I asked her to go back to my beloved BBBJ.
She sucked me for another 5 good minutes and than I asked for a HJ, and that is how I finally reached climax.
She then cleaned me, then the room, and finally herself, but she remained naked all the time.
When I got dressed, I paid her and asked for pictures and she said yes.
She didn’t want them on Internet, that’s why you won’t see her face.
I made 2 pictures let her see the result (very bad with that bloody cell, but I can’t go mongering with the big camera).
We then went down and I asked their working hours: 9am – 7pm.
Then we kissed and I left back to my apartment.
Cheers
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Winner and ColBog, LOVE the photos. Thank you.
ColBog that girl is definitely not a 5-6 in the body department in my book :P
[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]I think it would be great to have a city/street map of Bogota where guys could go in and annotate where they were able to meet girls. Either bars, brothels, clubs, massage parlors, malls or street action. There could even be a way to link icons on the map from/to reports filed by board members. Of course, if the folks running the board aren't able to do this, maybe one of us could provide a scanned map to someone here on the board who could annotate it and post it. It wouldn't be interactive, but would serve the same purpose of orienting people to the area. Thoughts?
Rodeo[/QUOTE]
Well, you COULD use google Earth, but half of Bogota in their image is under clouds :( Works great for Medellin though :P
There is also THIS, which is slow and sucky, but provides a GREAT view.
[url]http://mapas.idu.gov.co/internet/[/url]
I have no idea how to annotate it, however. I'll have to investigate, or maybe you guys would like to try.
Rodeo, please see the 'General Info' section for more info.
[QUOTE=Bango Cheito]Winner and ColBog, LOVE the photos. Thank you.
ColBog that girl is definitely not a 5-6 in the body department in my book :P[/QUOTE]Hi Bango Cheito.
I call a 5 a "normal" girl, not slim but not fat with a regular face.
As you said, everyone has his own book.
How would you rate that body?
at least a 9!!!! :) I LOVE well-built girls like that :)
I have to recomend this escort. Please visit her website. She charged me $220,000 for 1 1/2 hours. Well worth it. she gives a mean blow job.
First post finally.
Her webste again is senssual.com.
Good luck.
Jose
I would avoid. No face pictures, very expensive. Lots of better girls available.
I am considering a visit to bogota to meet with a friend I met in St Maarten.
What is the security like?
What is the best sag=fest hotel in Bogota?
Thanks
Mel
What is the difference between a peso and a cop?
What is the exchange rate?
Thanks
Mel
No difference: Peso and Colombian Peso are one and the same.
Exchange rate is slipping to below 2,000 per 1 US$.
Hi,
Still looking for the best hotel in Bogota. I am loking for security, not price or close to mongering.
Thanks
Mel
[QUOTE=Mel365]Hi,
Still looking for the best hotel in Bogota. I am loking for security, not price or close to mongering.
Thanks
Mel[/QUOTE]Hi Mel.
My favourite is the Victoria Regia Sofitel, very well situated at the hedge of the zona rosa where you can find Restaurants and night clubs for music and Rumbas.
You have clubs very close (turn right and then left) but expansives.
This area is probably the safest of Bogota.
The hotel service is first class.
The hotel is in a small carrera with little traffic so little noise.
The Andino Mall, The Atlantis Mall and the Retiro Mall are very close (walking distance less than 5 minutes).
Other options :
- La fontana, in front of the Unicentro mall, very good service in a very big hotel, but there is not much actions at a walking distance except the mall.
- The Radisson, in front of the Hacienda Santa Barbara, a very nice and upscale Mall, but once again, this hotel is very isolated.
- El Tequendama (Intercontinental), very good hotel but in a bad part of the city.
Close from the best place for action (Santa Fe).
Have fun
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...without getting my laptop stolen.
Any suggestions? I want to bring my laptop to look for pros from the websites, but I'm a little leery of the possibility of it getting snatched after going through the scanner while I'm still behind the metal detector. Anybody got any suggestions?
Rodeo
Col Bog, just to let you know the ZR is good and convenient but one should NOT let one's guard down. It's actually one of the worst areas of the whole city for muggings because of the preponderance of tourists and drunks. Don't walk around drunk and alone there, you could find your pocket picked or worse.
Rodeo, what are you suggesting, you have to pass security in El Dorado just like in any other airport! That's not something a couple thousand pesos is going to get you out of. Why would you be unduly worried about them stealing your laptop anyways? I've taken a laptop each time, never a problem.
[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]...without getting my laptop stolen.
Any suggestions? I want to bring my laptop to look for pros from the websites, but I'm a little leery of the possibility of it getting snatched after going through the scanner while I'm still behind the metal detector. Anybody got any suggestions?
Rodeo[/QUOTE]
Do the same you should be doing everywhere else: never place you laptop on the conveyer until the previous person has cleared the metal detector, then allow it to enter the xray before you enter the detector.
[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]...without getting my laptop stolen.
Any suggestions? I want to bring my laptop to look for pros from the websites, but I'm a little leery of the possibility of it getting snatched after going through the scanner while I'm still behind the metal detector. Anybody got any suggestions?
Rodeo[/QUOTE]The only metal detector to go through in the airport in Bogota is when you are leaving on an outbound flight (international or domestic). When you come into the country you clear immigration, then you collect your luggage and walk over to the customs officer to hand in your form. They give you your copy. You walk maybe 5 paces to the military guys who run the x-ray machines. You put your bag onto the conveyor belt. It is only two steps to the other side so you will see your computer coming out. Then you pick it up and walk outside to get a ride.
I was at Abado's a while back for an energetic session with my new favorite. When I came out, I walked back down the hall and passed the seamstress shop at the end of the hall right before the stairs and saw a family with a little girl being fitted for a First Communion dress. If I were a religious man, I might have actually thought that was a sign to repent!
This actually makes me wonder what the neighbors must think, especially the shopowners and clerks of the stores below Abado's. The floors and walls are pretty flimsy, and I can feel the whole place shake and rock when a monger in the neighboring cubicle really gets going with his masajista, so I'm sure the people downstairs can as well. Imagine trying to sell your cell phones while hearing and feeling that noise all day long.
[QUOTE=Bango Cheito]Col Bog, just to let you know the ZR is good and convenient but one should NOT let one's guard down. It's actually one of the worst areas of the whole city for muggings because of the preponderance of tourists and drunks. Don't walk around drunk and alone there, you could find your pocket picked or worse.
Rodeo, what are you suggesting, you have to pass security in El Dorado just like in any other airport! That's not something a couple thousand pesos is going to get you out of. Why would you be unduly worried about them stealing your laptop anyways? I've taken a laptop each time, never a problem.[/QUOTE]Not unduly worried, just wanting to take any necessary precautions since I saw that mentioned as an issue somewhere on this board previously.
[QUOTE=Novio]I was at Abado's a while back for an energetic session with my new favorite. When I came out, I walked back down the hall and passed the seamstress shop at the end of the hall right before the stairs and saw a family with a little girl being fitted for a First Communion dress. If I were a religious man, I might have actually thought that was a sign to repent!
This actually makes me wonder what the neighbors must think, especially the shopowners and clerks of the stores below Abado's. The floors and walls are pretty flimsy, and I can feel the whole place shake and rock when a monger in the neighboring cubicle really gets going with his masajista, so I'm sure the people downstairs can as well. Imagine trying to sell your cell phones while hearing and feeling that noise all day long.[/QUOTE]
In Rio one of the biggest thermas (L'Uomo) is in the middle of an open air mall, on the 2nd floor, right across from a BIG Pentecostal church. I always got my kicks out of walking out there and thumbing my nose at the church people milling around :P I don't take it as a sign to repent, I take it as a sign that some people know how to have fun and others don't :)
[QUOTE=Elfrances]Rastalova,
The address is Carrera 15 numero 104-03. Just after the Hotel Dann (but caution: there are various "Dann Hotel" in Bogota, at least another one downtown).
It looks like an ordinary building door, with a "portero" that will probably tell you where to go if you look unsure. The palce I visited was on the ground floor (planta baja), but there might have others.
Have a nice trip.
Elfrancés[/QUOTE]So I found it last night. It is only in the next block after Hotel Dann, on the other side of the street. You must go to Mez 9, this took me a little time to figure out. 50 for room, 40 cbj. I can not negotiate much other than, look this is all I have.
So it has the smallest rooms I have ever been in. Smaller than anything in Japan. I meet two girls around 6 pm. Picked Mariana, blonde, about 5 feet tall with a 9. 4 for a body. Speaks a little English, understand a lot of English. A so so massage, followed by a ball licking, then a CBJ. Very good, then more massage. She will be working again tomorrow 9 am, and will be off sat and Sunday.
My thanks to all that paved the way. Mariana probably the best body I have had so far.
Anybody that has stayed at Suites Real 85 before -- I remember a lot of posts in the past saying they got their rooms for about $50 or so a night. I checked their site, and they have $75 a night for the 33 square meter, $82 a night for the 50 square meter (price for two people), and a penthouse for $88 a night. Do you get better rates if you call them or just show up?
Also, I e-mailed them three days in a row and have not heard back from them. A recent poster said that was one of his complaints. They say they offer airport pick-up, but I'm not feeling real reliable with them.
Please advise on the best way to deal with them to get the best price. It seems to be the most popular place mentioned for staying in Bogota' on this thread. Thanks.
I went to Mez number 8 today and "met" Stephanie. My buddy had a HUGE titted and young girl in Mez 9 but I didn't much care for her manly grill.
Steph is medium dark from Cart, beautiful face (9.5) and an ok body (7.9) but I am very picky with girls. Very sweet. The standard half-assed massage, good ball licking/sucking, CBJ, and decent sex (cowboy, mission) for 70K.
Stephanie speaks good English since she was married to an English dude for a couple of years and she went to Colombiano as well. She said they got divorced because he became very jealous and even hit her. Back then she said she was a dental assistant, now she sucks balls for a living.
[QUOTE=Jak]Anybody that has stayed at Suites Real 85 before -- I remember a lot of posts in the past saying they got their rooms for about $50 or so a night. I checked their site, and they have $75 a night for the 33 square meter, $82 a night for the 50 square meter (price for two people), and a penthouse for $88 a night. Do you get better rates if you call them or just show up?
Also, I e-mailed them three days in a row and have not heard back from them. A recent poster said that was one of his complaints. They say they offer airport pick-up, but I'm not feeling real reliable with them.
Please advise on the best way to deal with them to get the best price. It seems to be the most popular place mentioned for staying in Bogota' on this thread. Thanks.[/QUOTE]
I stayed there the first couple of times I came to Bogota about 8 months ago and it cost me $65/day but I got a special rate because I was there for 2 weeks. The rate you have is not bad and they don't give you a fuss about the girl thing. Good location near the Carnulla (grocery store), money exchange across the street, and near the transmillena. Safe area too near Chico, Zona T, and Parque 93.
If they aren't responding to emails then call them. They can speak a little English or at least good enough to make a reservation.
Don't worry about a pick-up. Taxis are easy and safe to get at the airport and you only need to hand them a print out of the hotel and address.
Have fun in Bogota!
QB
[QUOTE=Q Bert]I went to Mez number 8 today and "met" Stephanie. My buddy had a HUGE titted and young girl in Mez 9 but I didn't much care for her manly grill.
Steph is medium dark from Cart, beautiful face (9.5) and an ok body (7.9) but I am very picky with girls. Very sweet. The standard half-assed massage, good ball licking/sucking, CBJ, and decent sex (cowboy, mission) for 70K.
Stephanie speaks good English since she was married to an English dude for a couple of years and she went to Colombiano as well. She said they got divorced because he became very jealous and even hit her. Back then she said she was a dental assistant, now she sucks balls for a living.[/QUOTE]So back I went not thinking marina was working today. Well she was, also another sweet young thing, and a couple of about 7. 5 in looks. Mariana was happy to see me. So she took me to a larger room. Yes do not laugh, it was bigger at least 3 square feet, but with a large mirror. Turns out mariana likes to watch herself work, I do too.
Crappy massage. By the way spinners has a massage special 1 hour 40, 000 pesos, massage only. Not bad. But then enthusatic sucking, more time on the balls, and reverse cowgirl. Everything available. So I left a happy camper, with some digits, don't know if they work.
Back to the hotel, report back to corporate. Not about Mariana.
Then decided to take myself to Hard Rock. On the way over, I spot a girl closing a small shop. She gives me the look, I give her one, only problem is mariana has definetly sucked and fucked the life out of me, but I make a note to try the shop on Monday. Could be a little semipro action.
I love Columbia
Had a LITTLE free time in Bogotá and went to a place advertising (El Tiempo) older ladies on 80th street. Waste of time unless you’re into fat ugly OLDER ladies, said my goodbye and left. Piscina de Dia was too far away, I’m not really into massages with happy ending. Oz 74 starts moving late and I have an early start next day, What to do?
Last week I was handed a flyer on the street so decided to check out a new place on Av. Caracas 73-28 called Pasarela Show. Enter and go up one level into a large hall with a bar and catwalk in the middle. It was very early so traffic was light. I understand the same owners have another place called Pasarela something down on 45th street.
Strip show goes on all evening long, all girls participate so you can survey, including girl-girl show and they say live sex with a lucky (or not) audience member. Didn’t wait for that part though. Girl’s comments made clear they haven’t seen a lot of hard ones once on stage.
As always, taking the good advice of ISG posts, I choose a smiling mulata, turns out to be from the coast of course, older and not a spinner but good solid body, good humor and boy what service. Also on good advice, spend an hour having beer (COP 3,000) and Cuba Libres (Cop 5,000) getting comfortable with each other.
Apart from the CBJ, which was good enough I guess, I got full GFE treatment and I can tell she enjoyed, as wetness is my witness. Full hour COP 80,000, 20 minutes COP 30,000, other options available.
Pros: Nice, new place in a good part of town, good looking girls, good service and decent prices.
Cons: Cold water, small rooms and VERY hard mattresses.
I came in clean and recently showered, only needed 3 Sq yards for my deed, didn’t come in to sleep on the hard bed and went back to the hotel, a few blocks away for my hot water afterdeed shower.
All in all a good experience, especially if you like the main advantage of these Termas like place: Window shops before you take the plunge.
Col Bog 1,
Excellent report. Would you recommend the house over say 104?
Thanks
On a recent morning i was planning to go to abado but a taxista convinced me to go to another place he knew- big mistake. This was a little, non-descript place near Santa Fe with only beads covering the doorway. Only 1 girl was the least bit attractive, Ximena. 30,000 for 30 minutes. No bbbj, no anal, just a covered bj and sexo.
Decided to do some recon today. Went about a half a mile north and checked out both sides of the street. Nothing. Went back to 104, and tried Mez 6. Many many girls, most 3-4, did the handshake routine and left. I need to stick to Mez 8 or 9.
[QUOTE=Acuerpado]On a recent morning i was planning to go to abado but a taxista convinced me to go to another place he knew- big mistake. This was a little, non-descript place near Santa Fe with only beads covering the doorway. Only 1 girl was the least bit attractive, Ximena. 30,000 for 30 minutes. No bbbj, no anal, just a covered bj and sexo.[/QUOTE]If the Photos are of Ximena, please tell me more! Will be in Bogota next week. She is so my type. Any address/contact info?
Can anyone recommend a 4 or 5 star hotel in the north of Bogota.
I am going Bogota to visit 2 novias that I met in st maatren this winter and I do not need to be near the zona rosa.
Thanks,
Mel
Mel, you do not state how long you will be in Bogota, but I would highly recommend you passing on the 4 or 5 star hotel, and renting the condo I rented during my stay. The owners are very nice people, who will rent for a short period of time. I rented the entire 3 bedroom apartment for I believe $400.00 dollars. It is a luxury apartment with security, e.c.t. The place is located on calle 22-48. Here is a link to the apartment. Enjoy your stay!
[url]http://welovebogota.com[/url]
[QUOTE=Mel365]Can anyone recommend a 4 or 5 star hotel in the north of Bogota.
I am going Bogota to visit 2 novias that I met in st maatren this winter and I do not need to be near the zona rosa.
Thanks,
Mel[/QUOTE]
Saint Maarten, Aruba, Bonaire, Curaçao, Trinidad, all those Caribbean islands are excellent destinations. I have mongered for years in these islands. Just read my reports, I have had incredible adventures, magical emotions. The girls are simply great there, they are all from…Colombia.
Girls come from all over Colombia for a 3 months contract with a brothel in one of those islands, far from home, trying to earn as much as possible during that short period of time. Most have never done that job before in Colombia. They are homesick, helping each other, calling every day at home, counting the remaining days. They live for three months in hell, sacrificing themselves to help their beloved family. Yes, they have hot bodies, but that is not what matters most. I have learned to know them better, to understand them and to admire them, till it went to far, an impossible love story. The love story is over, but since then I strongly feel the need to go to Colombia. It had never crossed my mind before due to it’s bad reputation. But now it’s simply the country of my dreams.
What am I looking for? Honestly, I don’t know. As usual, I have done my homework on ISG and have all the best places to find action. I have also plenty of addresses from girls I have met in the Caribbean. I had always wondered how could their real life be at home, far from the brothels. But I guess they are spoiled now, at least price wise for me.
I guess I’m looking for the ultimate adventure in the real world, far from the comfortable pro scene. I have always made borders to protect my personal life and family. But borders are made to be crossed. I give myself one week of freedom in Colombia.
I’ll be in Bogota from 21st till 28th of July. If anyone wants to meet, just PM. But here my question: what are the best places for non pro action?
I am sure you have read my field report on my trip to Bogota in April, so there is no need for me to repeat myself, but the best place and advice I can provide you from my experience, is during the day, go to central, where there is the energy of many people being out and about. Go into stores, acting like you are interested in buying some cologne, e.t.c. and this will be great way to start a conversation with a non-pro, or if you see another clerk in a tienda that interests you, tell her she is beautiful, and let her know you are visiting the city, and are interested in knowing where the hot spots are, and if the vibe is there, ask her if she is single, or if she would be interested in having a drink later. This is the strategy that I had to use while in Bogota. It is essential you develope that chemistry, as conversation gets the girl, at least the non-pro. As the old cliche goes, if you do not ask for the sale, you will never get it. I found meeting non-pros at night to be very difficult, much different than any other area of the world I have been in. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me, and I will do my best to share my information and knowledge of Bogota with you. As I stated in my field report, I met my first non-pro at the cambio in the airport, and I used the same formula to get her that I spoke to you about in this post.
Good luck!
Routard, we never got to meet in the Carribbean... oh well. Yes, the Colombian women are something else, aren't they?
Over the course of the last four years, I have met a number of really nice girls. As my Spanish improved ( I started at 0, and am really quite good now), I got to know them better.
I have come down to Colombia six times and visited a bunch of girls I had met on Curacao.I just came back from BOG a week ago.
I will agree with your observations partially. Not all Colombianas are angels. Not all of them "have never done this before". They can be just as bitchy and scheming as AWs. However, I have met some really good ones, and the times we had when they are not working have been HOT, HOT, HOT!
Keep in mind, the "foreigner factor" is not that high in Bogota, the number of tourists has doubled. As always, speaking Spanish, and dressing well matter a lot.
Do you know anyone in Bogota? if you do, I suggest just going out for fun to a popular area like Parque 93, and see what develops. If nothing then the pro scene in BOG is hopping.
[QUOTE=UrbanWildlife]I am sure you have read my field report on my trip to Bogota in April, so there is no need for me to repeat myself, but the best place and advice I can provide you from my experience, is during the day, go to central, where there is the energy of many people being out and about. Go into stores, acting like you are interested in buying some cologne, e.t.c. and this will be great way to start a conversation with a non-pro, or if you see another clerk in a tienda that interests you, tell her she is beautiful, and let her know you are visiting the city, and are interested in knowing where the hot spots are, and if the vibe is there, ask her if she is single, or if she would be interested in having a drink later. This is the strategy that I had to use while in Bogota. It is essential you develope that chemistry, as conversation gets the girl, at least the non-pro. As the old cliche goes, if you do not ask for the sale, you will never get it. I found meeting non-pros at night to be very difficult, much different than any other area of the world I have been in. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me, and I will do my best to share my information and knowledge of Bogota with you. As I stated in my field report, I met my first non-pro at the cambio in the airport, and I used the same formula to get her that I spoke to you about in this post.
Good luck![/QUOTE]
Good luck Routard !!
I agree with UrbanWild completely, not just in Bogota, but all over Colombia, meeting non-pros in the daytime is the best way to go, from my experience.
From store clerks to waitresses, to bank tellers ... I even went out with a police chica I met in Medellin, she was a traffic cop.
Obviously the better spanish you speak, the easier it will be. Being friendly with a smile, and dressing OK (doesn't have to be fancy) helps immensley.
Have fun!!
Below is a report from recent 4 day trip to Bogota:
Hotel:
Stayed in Suites Real 85 Carrera 18 No 84-56
Great location. Right near zona rosa and a supermarket to stock up on goods.
Bars:
Go to zona rosa or parque 93 on a friday or saturday and you should find good company if you can speak conversational spanish. I found the women not to be as pretty as medellin, cali, or ctg, but this in my opionion.
Massage:
Visited abejitas in zona rosa. The talent was ok, but I prefer Medellin for this activity.
Weather:
It was cool weather, but coming from the north, I found it to be quite comfortable. It did rain in the day, but maybe this is seasonable.
Strip Club:
There is a red light district here. I visited El Castillo and had a good time. Lots of places to visit in this area near El Castillo.
I hope to contribute to this forum as much as I travel to different locations. This forum has helped me plan trips with accurate information.
My goal is contribute, not to waste bandwith. Read posts from Escort King and you will see what I mean.
[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
Thanks for welcoming me on this thread and wishing me good luck, I feel already at home in Bogota! Yes, from your comments, this will be my strategy, check out for non pro during day time, and if I don't score, I'll have the pro scene in the evening.
One more question Wildlife, as I have read your detailed report about the non pro scene in Bogota, when you say that Medellin is a better place for non pro scene, is that from personal experience?
[QUOTE=Routard]Thanks for welcoming me on this thread and wishing me good luck, I feel already at home in Bogota! Yes, from your comments, this will be my strategy, check out for non pro during day time, and if I don't score, I'll have the pro scene in the evening.
One more question Wildlife, as I have read your detailed report about the non pro scene in Bogota, when you say that Medellin is a better place for non pro scene, is that from personal experience?[/QUOTE]Hello Routard,
I will be in Cartagena in 2 weeks, and it is in my schedule to be in Medellin for the first time in August. The reason I made the statement that Medellin is a better place for non-pros, is based on extensive reading I have done, and from the experiences shared with me, from close friends who presently have spent considerable time in Medellin.
[QUOTE=Routard]Saint Maarten, Aruba, Bonaire, Curaçao, Trinidad, all those Caribbean islands are excellent destinations. I have mongered for years in these islands. Just read my reports, I have had incredible adventures, magical emotions. The girls are simply great there, they are all from…Colombia.
Girls come from all over Colombia for a 3 months contract with a brothel in one of those islands, far from home, trying to earn as much as possible during that short period of time. Most have never done that job before in Colombia. They are homesick, helping each other, calling every day at home, counting the remaining days. They live for three months in hell, sacrificing themselves to help their beloved family. Yes, they have hot bodies, but that is not what matters most. I have learned to know them better, to understand them and to admire them, till it went to far, an impossible love story. The love story is over, but since then I strongly feel the need to go to Colombia. It had never crossed my mind before due to it’s bad reputation. But now it’s simply the country of my dreams.
What am I looking for? Honestly, I don’t know. As usual, I have done my homework on ISG and have all the best places to find action. I have also plenty of addresses from girls I have met in the Caribbean. I had always wondered how could their real life be at home, far from the brothels. But I guess they are spoiled now, at least price wise for me.
I guess I’m looking for the ultimate adventure in the real world, far from the comfortable pro scene. I have always made borders to protect my personal life and family. But borders are made to be crossed. I give myself one week of freedom in Colombia.
I’ll be in Bogota from 21st till 28th of July. If anyone wants to meet, just PM. But here my question: what are the best places for non pro action?[/QUOTE]Routard: could you direct me to where you might have posted about your impossible love affair-- I am married, keep it separate, and about to fall in deep. Meet a chica at campo, and I love her and I still love my wife, and I still am going to visit my novia at her home in Colombia. I am a smart guy but I'm damned if I know if she loves me or is playing me. I know they play us all-they have to-they are desperate or they would not be in this business- I don't mind the I need game-that does not mean that they don't sometimes really like some of us, maybe even fall in love themselves, or think they are falling in love. But I am staying with my family and i cannot afford to support 2 households. How does this end Routard? I need to hear it.
How we met:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=549491&postcount=560[/url]
How we became novios:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=571419&postcount=729[/url]
How it went wrong:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=573525&postcount=741[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=573794&postcount=746[/url]
How I analysed this relation:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=579306&postcount=799[/url]
How it ended:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=588671&postcount=882[/url]
Hey Dodge, it's just my story, don't make any conclusions of it for yourself. I love women, but there is one thing I love more: freedom.
Routard,
Are you going to visit with her in Bogota?
I am of course going to visit with my 2 novias.
Mel
[QUOTE=Routard]How we met:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=549491&postcount=560[/url]
How we became novios:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=571419&postcount=729[/url]
How it went wrong:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=573525&postcount=741[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=573794&postcount=746[/url]
How I analysed this relation:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=579306&postcount=799[/url]
How it ended:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=588671&postcount=882[/url]
Hey Dodge, it's just my story, don't make any conclusions of it for yourself. I love women, but there is one thing I love more: freedom.[/QUOTE]Thank you Routard for sharing the story. It does seem that the money/sex issue is just impossible to deal with in these relationships. The girls are desperate for money and for a normal life. They want both in a novio. They see it as reasonable for a novio to buy them things but to us it resonates with being taken for a ride. So it is just impossible to know true feelings and nothing is pure anyway. It seems logical that it cannot end well but then love is far from logic.
[QUOTE=Mel365]
Are you going to visit with her in Bogota?
[/QUOTE]
The story is over, I have not planned to visit her. Bogota is a big city, but don't know what will happen if I bump into her. I would be quiete uncomfortable if she discovers I'm in Bogota, especially if she meets me while I'm with another girl. Her brother is some kind of "bodyguard", whatever that means in Colombia. :eek:
Mel, remember me to your novia and have a nice stay.
Routard,
I will say Hello, for you to novia #2 CL. I don't believe you ever met novia #1. Sorry I will miss you in Bogota.
Have a great time. I will leave some untouched pussy for you to sample.
Mel
Gents,
I have searched high and low. I am looking for a 4 bedroom condo in Zona Rosa area. We will have 4 guys and we are looking for a rental July 4-8. Thanks in advance. If not we will have to double up at the Suites Real for two rooms. Please send out the hounds and help find a slay pit for us. Peace out!
Is anyone going to be in Bogota July 1-11?
I would like to hook up.
Mel
I am in Bogota right now. Contact me and we can get together.
[QUOTE=Bango Cheito]Col Bog, just to let you know the ZR is good and convenient but one should NOT let one's guard down. It's actually one of the worst areas of the whole city for muggings because of the preponderance of tourists and drunks. Don't walk around drunk and alone there, you could find your pocket picked or worse.
[/QUOTE]Thanks Bango Cheito for your information.
But guess what ?
I live there, 2 blocks from the Zona Rosa, and I never experienced any bad adventure, nor did my family members or friends.
Of course, as most place in Colombia, you'll never know who is your neighbourg, but I really think that this is the safest place in Bogota with a lot of police everywhere.
Just my 2 cents.
I've never had the slightest problem there either personally. The times I had encounters with muggers or suspicious people were both in Modelia, which is another area considered to be much safer than it actually is. But statistically at least the ZR is the most dangerous. Which is not to say it's a no-go zone by any means. I wouldn't mind living around there at all, to tell you the truth. It would be crazily convenient, that's for sure!
Hi,
The women are beautiful in Bogata. Bogata is definitely a cooler place than Cartageana, although I'm a big fan of cartagena. I think hooking up is a lot easier if you know somebody but I see girls eyeing me. Definitely dress up a little.. it matters. I'm staying in the Hotel Boheme Royal. It's a pretty nice place within walking distance of all the hot spots. I'm looking forward to probably going to a club or too after I get off the phone with my chica. I'm supposed to go to Valledupar with my girl but I like bogata so far. I may check out the aforementioned strip club for a little entertainment.
Miguel
Are there any strip clubs with HOT Colombian women in Bogota where you can sit down and have a priced beer and look at glamour women. And I'm not talking about aroma and tanga, la pascina and places like that.
Went last night to two places on CL 86a. Casanova's and Extasis. I was a bit early (10: 30 pm). Sat down next to a chica named Andrea who asked for 500, 000 COP TLN and 150K for an hour of servicio. Wouldn't come down past 450K por TLN, and actually asked for $250 if I preferred to pay in dollars. This all would be on top of the 95K bar fine. I told her she was insane, that classy hookers in the US don't even get that (though I doubt that statement was true), had a beer and left.
Extasis is a little less posh, and being early I didn't get a good sense of the chicas. But seems like it might be the same deal, with chicas charging ridiculous sums.
Does anyone know Whiskeria Los Cerezos across the street? I was approached by their tout but did not venture up to the 2nd floor. Thoughts?
zing,
thanks for the note. my e-mail program will not work with outgoing mail so i will write you and the group from here. i arrived in bogotá yesterday. my blond novia/esposa "c" met me at the airport with her whole family mother father and 4 children. we have been communicating daily as i have with the other colombian chica via yahoo.
i have seen her family photos and they are very attractive people. one of her daughters age 12 will need to be chained to her bed at home she is drop dead gorgeous with a fantastic figure and tall like her mother. nothing sexual just an observation. we took the car sent by the hotel $18- to the hotel. her family followed in their car. just as a general note she has retired from the trade and left st maarten about 10 days after i left in early may. she now owns 2 apartments and a house all in the south of bogotá and a car.
we checked in and said good bye to the family. i believe they came here to make sure i was not going to abduct her. the hotel in the north, the nice area.
being that she has not had sex in 2 months (i believe her) i had my clothes literally ripped off me and raped for about 5 hours. i am glad i took a vitamin "v" on the plane.
i stopped counting after her 10th orgasm. i came twice but with the help of vitamins i stayed hard almost the whole time. god, i missed her. of course we both had hiv tests so all the sex was fantastic bareback. we wrote during my absence and i asked her what she wanted in bed. after much questioning a few items on her list were, to swallow my come, to have me come on her chest and her face, and to have anal sex from the back "with my face buried in a pillow" being the gentleman that i am i started on her list yesterday and am continuing today.
after the marathon sex and a short nap we took the hotel taxi to the south where she lives. the difference between the north and the south is dramatic. like 5th avenue and harlem. incidentally there is also a zona rosa in the south. since her quintuplets are now 18 she rents her house and lives in a nice 3 bedroom apartment. we have all heard the sob stories about a sick mother etc. , but one look at her mother and you can see that she is dying of cancer and doesn’t have long to live. i selected a fine seafood restaurant in the north. we had the taxi wait fo us so we took the taxi and the rest of the family went in her car. it is interesting to note that the restaurants are open to the fresh air even though it was 59 degrees last night. the food was exquisite, on par with the finest restaurants. we then went back to the hotel and said good bye to the family. for security reasons i had the taxi wait for us the whole time. back to the room to continue on her list. we started about 10pm and finished about 4 am. we awoke at 1 pm.
it is now 4 am the second night and i finished with "c" about 30 minutes ago. she is sleeping now. i am also wiped out and need sleep. more to follow.
mel
[QUOTE=Supafly323]Went last night to two places on CL 86a. Casanova's and Extasis. I was a bit early (10: 30 pm). Sat down next to a chica named Andrea who asked for 500, 000 COP TLN and 150K for an hour of servicio. Wouldn't come down past 450K por TLN, and actually asked for $250 if I preferred to pay in dollars. This all would be on top of the 95K bar fine. I told her she was insane, that classy hookers in the US don't even get that (though I doubt that statement was true), had a beer and left.
Extasis is a little less posh, and being early I didn't get a good sense of the chicas. But seems like it might be the same deal, with chicas charging ridiculous sums.
Does anyone know Whiskeria Los Cerezos across the street? I was approached by their tout but did not venture up to the 2nd floor. Thoughts?[/QUOTE]Whiskeria Los Cerezos has very young ladies and most don't speak English, if you can get by in spanish you can do very well, I went with a good friend of mine who is Colombian, I picked a young lady she said she was 19 but after the session my friend believed she might've been younger, but since I picked her from the club I guess I was safe. Not much tits but I am not a tits man anyway, she was very cute, beautiful face and a lovely rack, she asked for $100 American money, since I had few drinks and my big head was not doing the thinking, I agreed on the price for an hour of sex done on the premises. They charged 88000 pesos for the room for one hour, 110000 pesos for a bottle of Vodka small. They accepted my Viza card and I charged all drinks to my viza but paid for sex in cash, they let you negotiate seperatly with the girl for her fee. Lots of pretty young women in this place and they come from all over Colombia and the towns near by Bogota, mainly white and light skin girls. She was willing to stay with me for free if I take her to Cartegena, she said she loves Cartagena. Another thing I want to mention, if you want to take them out, there is a bar fine. To avoid the bar fine, just get their number and you can call them and tell them where to meet you.
I actually find many of the pretty women in Bogota are from other parts of the country. I was down there this past weekend hanging out with my girl who also is from valledupar. I'm going to be in valledupar the end of this month. Are you going to be there then? If so care to hook up for a beer?
[QUOTE=navar4500]Hi,
The women are beautiful in Bogata. Bogata is definitely a cooler place than Cartageana, although I'm a big fan of cartagena. I think hooking up is a lot easier if you know somebody but I see girls eyeing me. Definitely dress up a little.. it matters. I'm staying in the Hotel Boheme Royal. It's a pretty nice place within walking distance of all the hot spots. I'm looking forward to probably going to a club or too after I get off the phone with my chica. I'm supposed to go to Valledupar with my girl but I like bogata so far. I may check out the aforementioned strip club for a little entertainment.
Miguel[/QUOTE]
yesterday was an interesting day. we awoke very late and had about an hour of great morning sex. the family met us at the hotel and we went in her car to the shopping mall north of 103 street (uni central) with the whole family. it seems that the schools are closed for holiday. the mall is middle class stores with a number of american shops. routard, if you can’t score non pro here you should throw in the towel. a couple of times i was unaccompanied in the mall and got phone numbers of two very cute sales girls.
a handsome guy like yourself should have your dance card filled in one day of "shopping" the classier mall is the mall of santa barbara we also went there and did a little shopping. i am working on getting a cedula and a bank account here. i hope to have these within a week. i see a number of business opportunities here in bogotá. it seems like the rich get richer and the poor get pregnant is very true here. we went to a small chinese restaurant south of the hotel. the food was unlike any chinese food i have had anywhere in the world. when i ordered in cantonese to the asian owner she did not understand what i wanted. the food is colombian with a chinese flair, not chinese food. i am a chinese food aficionado so i will check out another restaurant to see if this was an anomaly. we went from the mall to the restaurant in a separate cab from the hotel, the rates seem fair and the waiting charge id 14, 000 = $7- an hour. at that price we had the cab wait. after dinner we parted from the family and see****** and i went back to the hotel.
we usually shower and i shave before bed at night. last night we showered together. i asked if i had shave my genitals close enough and she wend down on her knees in the shower and shaved a few spots i missed while giving me a nice soapy hand job and a small bbbj. she then asked me to shave her and asked if i liked the little patch of hair that she left above her pussy. i trimmed it a little the one good turn deserves another and i gave her a nice lick and a suck while in the steaming shower. we then dried each other off and went into bed. i went down on her and she came about 4-5 times in the course of an hour. it is an absolute turn on when the woman pushes your head down on her hard and asks to "suck me harder" in spanish over and over again and then having her come and have her whole body quiver. this is something that she can not fake.
for those of you who do not know mi novia. she is 5 feet 4" tall 38.22-36. solid see-cups possibly a the-cup. from the hi carbohydrate diet of saint martin she has lost a little weight and now weighs 48 kilos. she also looks 100% better since she has stopped working and has a great smile and a happier outlook on life. for those of you who are interested in the in bed details suffice it to say that she has a most educated pussy. being tall with long and thin legs she has great leverage. she is also extremely strong and does from 750-1000 crunches a day. the second go round last night after a number of positions was cowgirl position. i am heavy and hate a woman with a big ass or heavy thighs or with short legs. what happens with those women in cowgirl is that their thighs slap on my thighs and it is very distracting. see****** last night balanced herself on her toes in cowgirl. the only thing that i felt was her wet pussy riding my cock like a maniac. it was like fucking a floating pussy. the speed that she built up to was amazing and i came like a 15 year old.
good night gracie.
mel
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[QUOTE=Mel365]we went in her car to the shopping mall north of 103 street (Uni Central) with the whole family. It seems that the schools are closed for holiday. The mall is middle class stores with a number of American shops. Routard, if you can’t score non pro here you should throw in the towel. A couple of times I was unaccompanied in the mall and got phone numbers of two very cute sales girls.[/QUOTE]
You bet I will go there the very first day at arrival! Does C. have some places to advice for me?
Routard I was at the park at 93 street tonight- too many cute chicas to count. I also went to a bank credito today and one of the tellers gave me a come fuck me look. Unfortunately I was with C******. I was going to leave for Periera today but she promised me a big surprise if I hung around. Based upon my last big surprise from her was (two platinum strippers) I will definitely hang around. With respect to where to go here in Bogota. If you know the joke in this town she is a virgin" we have had dinner with a number of important peopls, lawyers, doctors, etc. And I would not be able to ask her. Dress warmly-- it is FREEZING here.
Regards,
Mel
Hello amigos.
I will be visiting Bogota at the end of the month.
I will be most of the time with my new girlfriend, but I will also have some time to escape and sample the local talent.
If you have some P4P you might want to recommend, I have also a couple of phone numbers I can trade.
PM me with/for more details.
LatinBull
Finally found a great mandarin restaurant named "mandarin restaurant"
Cloth table cloths, jasmin tea, peking duck on 24 hour notice very good food.
Around 95-100 street in the north.
Mel
I've now been in Bogotá for several weeks. It is generally cold and it rains quite frequently. There are a tremendous number women who are interested in dating Americans. I want to thank my friend from this website who introduced me to the Internet dating websites. they are terrific. You can also find women of all different types in almost any store or office. It's like shooting fish in a barrel. I just wish I had more time to pursue this field of endeavor. In the other cities, it is probably a little bit warmer. Bogotá however is the capital and the center of business and everything else and so it's more exciting. The quality of the women are is also higher in terms of their backgrounds. That's not to say they're prettier by any means -- most people would rate the women in Medellin and Cali as being prettier. If anyone is here, drop me a line and we can get together.
@ Cuba Tourist
Thanks for your report! Bogotá is one of my favourite spots around the world for traveling, fun, relaxing and also playing around.
Anyway, I would like to ask you to give us a short update about current internet dating websites that help to find girls in Colombia and maybe other countries in South America (free of charge websites).
The one I like most up to now is [url]www.cybercupido.com[/url] (sending 2 messages per day is free - you will get many more if you know Spanish, are educated, polite and not only looking for mongering) - the page is rather good for Cuba and South America in general. Loads of normal girls interested in dating foreigners and many are willing. However, the percentage of academics or university students is not as high as in the average population.
Thanks a lot!
Colombia is starting to appear on the tourism radar screen. How much longer until the crowds arrive to spoil things? There was an hour-long show on the Travel Channel about visiting Bogota and the surrounding area, including a coffee finca near Armenia. It's called "5 Takes Latin American", and is about 5 gringos/gringas visiting and recounting their tourist experiences. Interesting show, but it shows that the tourist industry is ramping up on Colombia. It did not mention anything about the FARC, paramilitaries, and security precautions.
Sure. How about you report on your experiences in Bogota? Would love to hear what you have found here.
Girl friendly aparthotel in the North: SuitesReal97 ([url]www.suitesreal.com[/url]), located just 10 min walking distance from Parque 97, in a side street of Av.11. Never had problems with girls visiting me there, neither at night nor during daytime. I like the SuitesReal97 better than the one in Calle 85, as you can go for a walk easier. However, at night, take a taxi and never cross the small parcs between the houses between Av. 11 and 15 to the west and Calle 100 and 95 southwards.
By the way, nice street hookers can be found exactly in that residencial area there; attention, some of them are transvestites. Maybe the girls are just a little bit too "stylish" to take them to a normal hotel...
Av. 11 close to C/97 in general is safe, but even there you can face a street robbery in the evening hours or at night. Same security advices apply as in all other parts.
I don't want to go into too many details with the experiences with my online girlfriends I met on cybercupido in general. Normal girls, most of them students from middle class families in North and Northwest Bogotá, aged 20-29, looking for a foreigner to talk, for friendship, a romance and maybe something serious. Many dream of meeting their principe azul from another country, but that for me makes only sence if the girl also has traveled a bit around the globe, because expectations otherwise are not very realistic about life here in Europe. Just play serious and don't lie too much to the girls - even without promising heaven to them they will treat you excellent. Small gifts like perfumes (internationally re-known brands), invitations to a nice restaurant (e.g. Parque 97, Zona T near Centro Comercial Andino, etc.) or going shopping with the girls opens their heart. There are quite a few good fashion stores around in the big shopping malls that are too expensive for normal girls, they will be happy to try some nice upper class clothes that you will find rather economic compared with U.S. or European prices. Be nice, authentic, frank and not only one GF experience will happen during your holiday.
Sorry, I forgot: Fluent Spanish is a great plus.
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The grand finale,
My original plan was to visit with my other novia for 4 days and then end the trip with 3 days of all out mongering. However my current novia promised if I could stay with her I would have a Great surprise. Her last surprise in St Martin was the birthday gift of 2 tall drop dead gorgeous Platinum Strippers for the evening. So I let little Mel make the decision and stayed with novia #1. We had some wonderful nights one ending at 7 am. We watched television and she pointed out a very striking actress who somehow looked familiar. We went shopping to a third and fourth Mall Saltire Plaza, and also Plaza of the Americas. Except for having the bomb dog’s smell the trunk and having the undercarriage of the car looked at with mirrors it was a typical mall. We also went down to avenue Jimenez and bought some emeralds.
One day I went into a drug store to buy some cough medicine. Bogota is high and cold and I developed a dry cough from the altitude. I was at the cashier when a man came in with a short semi-automatic shotgun, finger on the trigger, 17 rounds in a bandolier and with a folding stock. Same setup as I had in Vietnam. I figured he was coming in to rock and roll. Then a second guy, same setup, then a third. I then carefully looked and it was JUST Brinks making a pickup. Normal day in Bogota. At no time did I feel threatened as I was wearing my low key clothes plain plastic watch and no cameras or jewelry. Just another amigo. I would not, however, walk around at night unaccompanied. The south of Bogota is a little dicey night and day.
3 nights before I was to leave the desk clerk called my room and said I had a visitor. I asked my novia what was this about she said to go see and I went down to see. You need a room key to make the elevator work. I went down to the lobby and standing there was my novia all dressed up.--am I hallucinating? No it was her identical twin sister. I invited her to the bar and asked my novia to join us. She was the actress that I had seen on television. Seems like she is quite well known in Bogotá. We had drinks, and to my surprise we all went back to my room.
I had no idea how to proceed, we sat around and listened to music (Noelia). All of a sudden my guest started to strip to the music. I surmised this was my SURPRISE. I have never been in bed with twin sisters. The actress had a prettier face as she had not been a working girl and did not have the stress wrinkles on her face. But the same killer body and a lot tighter a she had no children. Again about 38.22-36 C_D boobs. Having twins was an amazing experience as you can be eating one woman looking at her face and fucking another with the same face. A truly life changing experience. Something I am looking to repeating in the future. I had to pay off the maids and the desk clerk but it was worth every Peso for three nights of a non stop humpathon. We never left the room except for 2 dinners in the dining room. Seems as Novia 2 husband was out of town and is an old limp dicked guy who has money but is uninterested in his hot Colombian wife. Speaking of hot. They both had pussies that were unusually physically hot when you got them going. Such ends a wet dream in Bogota.
I am writing this from back home in the USA and as I am writing this twin#2 is writing me on yahoo instant mail. She wants to come to the USA to visit. Seems that her husband is involved in business here and she has a visa. I will have to ask novia #1 if it is ok but I believe she will give me the OK.
What a monger has to go through. Life is tough but someone has to do it. I just wrote novia #1 about her sister and this is the exact translation: " I love you and the only thing that I want is to love you of my life every day. To sleep with you in your arms. And to do the love every second of our lives. To enjoy your kisses and caresses I love you my king. You need to me. And I feel much cold because your these not to warm up my body here. If I can not warm your body you may have my sister to keep you warm until we are together again my king.
OH MY GOD WHAT SHOULD I DO?
MEL
[QUOTE=Mel365]I am writing this from back home in the USA and as I am writing this twin#2 is writing me on yahoo instant mail. She wants to come to the USA to visit. Seems that her husband is involved in business here and she has a visa. I will have to ask novia #1 if it is ok but I believe she will give me the OK.
What a monger has to go through. Life is tough but someone has to do it. I just wrote novia #1 about her sister and this is the exact translation: " I love you and the only thing that I want is to love you of my life every day. To sleep with you in your arms. And to do the love every second of our lives. To enjoy your kisses and caresses I love you my king. You need to me. And I feel much cold because your these not to warm up my body here. If I can not warm your body you may have my sister to keep you warm until we are together again my king.
OH MY GOD WHAT SHOULD I DO?
MEL[/QUOTE]I think everyone on the board is envious of your situation. Only thing missing to satisfy our curiousity would be some images of your twins. Perhaps you might share some photos with us? or let use know the actress twin's name so that google can do the rest? :p
Since your novia gave you the OK I think you should go for it. I just hope for your sake that the husband doesn't have a short fuse and a "long reach"!
Incredible, Mel, Bogota is full of surprises. I'm currently writing from my appartment in the Zona Rossa in Bogota. I'll be here for one more week, my eveneings start at the numerous pubs of Zona Rossa before heading to another place. If anyone wants to meet for a drink, just PM.
Routard,
Did you get to the park with all the restaurants around it?
Park 93 and 15 th? Looks like great hunting up there also great food.
Please tell us about the apartment. does it have maid service? what is the cost.
Hope you are having Fun. don't do anything I would not-- whatever that is.
Mel
Sorry,
But the actress is on TV almost every day, I can't share the photos. My novia #1 has retired and now works in real estate. I don't think it would be fair to put her photo up on the internet.
Sorry,
Mmel
Mel,
I have been in Zona Rosa so far, at walking distance of my appartment. The pro scene is useless here, yesterday just a couple of hours after arrival I was at Pub with 4 great looking girls, I have just waken up from an incredible love night. It's like shooting fish in a barrel. I have never seen as much beautiful girls in the same place, except maybe Israel but then again they are not as easy going as here of course. I rate 90% of the girls walking around in Zona Rosa between 8 and 9 and wiithin the 10% left there are even some 10. The funny thing is that when you look at them, they also look at you, and when you smile, they answer your smile, even if they are with a guy. As soon as you ask a stupid aquestion like what time is it, they initiate conversation and you just need to invite them for a drink. Success rate is close to 100%, incredible, I want to live here.
The appartment is great, including all usual hotel services , breakfast, cleaning and security.
Hey, no kidding guys, I need buddies ASAP. As I could take care only of one girl, the three others where pissed off that I had no buddies showing up. I hate leaving hotties sexually frustrated, I can't do all the job here.
[QUOTE=Routard] As soon as you ask a stupid aquestion like what time is it, they initiate conversation and you just need to invite them for a drink. Success rate is close to 100%, incredible, I want to live here.[/QUOTE] So, exactly why did it take you so long to get to Colombia - you have been to almost every other destination in the world?!
-zing
Routard,
I thought you would do great. The non pro scene is amazing. If I could have gotten away from my novia, I know I would have not been lonely.
Please PM me the apartment info. I would like to check it out on my next trip in a month. Happy mongering. When you have some time please send details. As a P.S. To my writeup. My novia and her sister asked nothing for their stay with me. It was just for LOVE.
Mel
Zing, Bogota airport's name is Eldorado, the mythical paradise you find after having crossed all other parts of the world.
The girls you find in Zona Rosa or Parque 93 are not our usual SXM Colombianas. Here you have the upper class of the Colombian society, highly educated and mainly from European descent. This morning I went walking around south of Bogota, Santa Fe, Candeleria, and went close to the poor barrios. There I recognized our dear tyical SXM Colombianas. I felt sorry for them, they live in deep shit. These are two complete different worlds. Louisa has mailed to me, she arrives this week from Panama, we are supposed to meet. I wil be glad meeting her again, she will introduce me to her kid. But frankly, it will simply be friendship. I'm not here into the pro scene. I can fuck much better and for free.
I have just phoned to a girl that gave me her number yesterday. We meet at 9pm. I just can't understand what is happening here.
[QUOTE=Mel365]As a P.S. To my writeup. My novia and her sister asked nothing for their stay with me. It was just for LOVE.
[/QUOTE]
This is Colombia.
Just a few quick notes, detailled reports will follow as usual, but I simply don't have the time now.
This afternoon, I could manage to escape for some hours, so I went strait till La mansion de la Barbie Calle 49 13-70.
Once inside I had to pay 1k to see the girls. I remembered I had a very nice one on my last visit but that’s almost a year ago. Of course, the girl I had then was not there (I didn’t ask if she was still there neither). I was presented to 6 girls, 2 doable, I ask to talk with the slimmer and asked her if she could do something for me as I can’t feel anything with a condom.
She looked at me very shy and told me that everything must go with condom. I asked if she would at least do it BBBJ, but no, she (and a lot of girls as her) thinks she could get aids with BBBJ. So I just left the place.
Walking no more than 3 doors till Caracas, I reached another place where I had the same problem.
I then decided to walk till Tu y Yo Calle 52 16-74 where I had a good shot few months ago.
There the same routine again and again the girl wouldn’t do anything without condom.
Then I headed till Calle 17 51-54, but they only had 3 girls none of my taste, so I didn’t ask and left going north.
I wanted to walk till Chapinero and it’s numerous places.
While walking on Caracas several guys gave me some small adds where I was supposed to found the girl of my dreams.
I visited 3 of them but again and again girls wouldn’t do anything without condom. Finally a guy gave me an add and it was just next door. I entered at Divas Calle 61 13-79 and climbed the stairs. I liked it because it is a club with tables and chairs and a show, girls are in the same room as the customers. I would say they had 15 girls and 12 customers. Most customers were having a beer and didn’t pay care to the girls.
When I got in, a small cutie came straight to me and wanted me to seat on a table, but as the table was just behind a loud speaker I declined that place and finally sat on the girls couch. My cutie came with me and we start to talk. I told her that I had a problem with condom and asked if she could do something for me? She asked what kind of service I was looking for and I told her that my minimum expectation was a BBBJ but I’d be glad to find a BBFS.
She told me that as a Costeña, she would be glad to please me!
We bargained a little bit in the loud music and decided to go for 60k for 30 minutes. We then escaped the noisy room and went back to first floor thru a small stair. We entered a small dirty room with a couch with a very dirty sheet on it, walls were in iron panels, that room only had a very small lamp with almost no light.
I asked if they had another room and visited a "better" one with a terrible double deck bed with an iron structure, a mattress on the first level with the same dirty sheet, but the light was good. So we remained in that room. The door, once closed, had an aperture of almost 1 cm (half an inch) that would let anyone outside with a nice view of what was going on in the "room".
But if you’re used to that you just don’t pay care.
Paola is a real cutie as I like them, small, nice belt, nice face, real normal tits, well, an enjoyable doll.
We undressed and start to explore each other including French kisses, I gave her a short but strong DATY but when I asked her to enter in 69 she wanted to cover me!
I was a little bit mad because I had made everything clear before we went downstairs.
Paola told me that she was ok for penetration without condom but not for BBBJ! I really wonder what do these girls have on mind?
So I had to enter in bargain once more and we closed the deal of BBFS with 30 extra k so total cost reached 90K.
She gave me a very poor BBBJ but at least we were having a 69 on that very bad bed.
After a few minutes of that I fingered her ass and she didn’t say a world, Boy, I was in heaven, sucking that juicy pussy while fingering that tight ass!
Then I decided to enter that juicy pussy, Paola asked me not to come inside her and I told her not to worry.
We made it missionary and I could fell how humid and warm she was.
Unfortunately I couldn’t resist long and came with a very strong climax (yes on that dirty sheet so they have to change it! ).
After that a 5 minutes rest, 2 pictures, she gave me her phone number and I left satisfy.
I warmly recommend her, but in some better place.
I think that I’ll call her next time as she told me she left that place (where she had work for 1 year) at 10pm, and we will go to a close by residence with much better commodities.
Cheers
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I decided to stay at the Dann Carleton--103. Nice htel.
I am still a little confused about the street system in Bogota. Am I correct that the calles run east and west and the carreras run north and south?
If so it seems like you walked very far on your last mongering visit.
Please explain the calle an street number system. I hope to meet up with you next time in Bogots in a month or so. It also seems like routard needs help with the chicas. I know him and he is a fine gentelman. Try to hook up with him.
Thanks,
Mel
Col Bog,
I was with a girl from Paserella calle 61 13-75, but it sounds like the same place. Was there another bar really close? The same story, except different girl. Costena too!
Will wonders ever cease? While in Colombia I left novia #1 with a relatively new 15 inch laptop, a camera, and a headset with microphone. I was surprised to find that she had two pretty good Pentium 4 computers in her house. It seems that her father uses one for the lawyer that he works for. The other is for her daughters. Both are pretty full and run slowly on the dsl phone lines. We have been using Yahoo instant messenger with Audio and video. To talk almost every night. It runs pretty quickly with the video refresh rate on the computer of about 12 seconds Last night she said that tonight she would have a regarlo (gift for me).
I couldn’t imagine what it was, well we called and connected, she had on a beautiful black low cut dress and a nice amount of makeup. Over the next forty minutes she proceeded to slowly strip and lie in the bed legs open to the camera and put on a fantastic show for me. I almost pole vaulted out of my bed when she was finished, and I mean she was FINISHED! I wish I could have recorded the audio and video for myself when I am old and in a wheel chair, but the hard on would probably kill me. That’s a new one for me, her orgasm over the computer, and I know it was for real. She loves it when I talk "dirty" to her. That has to be a mongering first. I would love to relate the conversation to the group as it was very hot, but it was personal and off the mongering scale.
What could possibly be next.
Thanks to my mongering buddies for the encouragement and great advice, particularly zing and routard.
Mel
[QUOTE=Mel365]I decided to stay at the Dann Carleton--103. Nice htel.
I am still a little confused about the street system in Bogota. Am I correct that the calles run east and west and the carreras run north and south?
If so it seems like you walked very far on your last mongering visit.
Please explain the calle an street number system. I hope to meet up with you next time in Bogots in a month or so. It also seems like routard needs help with the chicas. I know him and he is a fine gentelman. Try to hook up with him.
Thanks,
Mel[/QUOTE]Hi Mel,
Yes, Dann Carlton's hotel are generaly nice all other Colombia.
I would say that street 103 is too much north if you want to be in the zona rosa, but of course, you are very close from the Mezanine (calle 104 with Carrera 15) even if I don't like that place.
If I had to choose an hotel with no money restriction, I prefer the Sofitel Victoria Regia very close from the zona rosa and in a quiet street so you can sleep.
Yes, you're right, Calles run east west and Carrera north south.
Depending on the "barrio" you generally have 80 meters between each calle or Carrera, this is called a manzana (apple) and is the same as a bloc in the US.
So, I didn't walked a lot because I went from Calle 49 to Calle 61 that's 12 blocks, so more or less, one kilometer or 3/4 of a mile.
I just love to walk in the cities and Bogota is really a nice place to do that.
I'd love to go out with you one of these days, but I really have problem with this as I'm a married man.
It's not easy to find a good reason to escape.
That's why I don't monger much in Bogota, but I can do it easely while I'm travelling for my business.
I've read some posts of your friend Routard and I like the way he tells his story.
I'll send him a PM if I can see a way of how to go out by night without having problem with my family.
Thanks
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[QUOTE=Cuba Tourist]Col Bog,
I was with a girl from Paserella calle 61 13-75, but it sounds like the same place. Was there another bar really close? The same story, except different girl. Costena too![/QUOTE]Hi Cuba Tourist,
I didn't pay care so I can't tell you if there is another place next door.
But it might be, as Chapinero is really full of mongering places.
This place, Calle 61 13-79, is organized as I wrote :
- Lobby with the girls upstairs
- Rooms downstairs (they are really very bad).
Cheers
Okay dudes, here's my payback for all the awesome info I got from you guys on this site. Thanks, by the way! So, here goes. 7 days, 7 girls, 1 guy, 1 hotel, 1 place: Bogota, Colombia! I'll try to post pics. If not with the report, then, at some point soon when I figure out how to do it right! I think I'll do each day as a separate post since I documented each day diary-style and they are pretty long. Enjoy:
Dear Diary,
Today I arrived in one of the meccas of hobbying and was on the prowl from the moment I stepped out of the jetway. Before I get to that, let me just say one thing. LAN Chile Airlines fucking rocks! The great ticket price I got was actually in business class, which I didn't even remember booking. Pleasant surprise. Each seat is like your own private module and you can recline to a fully flat position, your own 15" LCD Screen to watch, movies, TV shows or listen to music. Finally, the flight attendants were actually hot and polite and helpful. Their skirts have this little slit on the side that goes up about 6 inches, just enough to see that most of them were wearing thigh high stockings. Hot!
Anyway, first I targeted (passively since I can't fucking speak Spanish) the customs chic behind the counter. I threw a couple of smiles her way and licked my lips a few times. And she actually smiled back and was like eyeing me up and down (not like a normal customs agent) and I caught her looking back at me after I passed her. Anyway, that was kid stuff.
So, next, I go out to meet the hotel taxi. Now, my plane was late, so I wandered around (with purpose) making sure I didn't miss his sign. Some cool ass 20 something Tourist Police came up and started talking to me, I initially brushed them off till I found out that I really needed (English speaking) help. They called this other guy (civilian type) and I started to get suspicious when they were gonna put me into another cab and take me to another hotel. That got fixed and in conversation, I told them the first thing I would be looking for is some girls. The one civilian guy (Ricardo) said he knew some hot working girls. So, I got his number and peaced out to the taxi, who by now had crossed paths with me. I was met by a greeter type person from the hotel. A hot ass lower 30something chic named Olga. She was talking about some miscellaneous shit, meanwhile I was tryin to figure how I could make my move. She spoke English fluently by the way. So, as she handed me off to the taxi driver, I thanked her and asked her if she would mind showing me around. She starts going on and on about the tour packages that the hotel has, I said no, I want you! She smiled and politely declined citing the rules of the hotel. Fucking fraternization rules. Why does every damn hotel seem to have them?
So, now I'm in the taxi with another way cool dude (the driver) named Omar. Omar gave me a verbal tour of things to do in the city. No mention of chicas. He seemed a little too wholesome-dad type to get into that. I vaguely listened to him, but mostly I was checking out the local chicas around town and seeing if I could spot any Casas (brothels).
After I check into the hotel, I immediately log in on my laptop and started checking websites for the local escort scene (more reliable than the sites in the US from what I can tell).
I annotated approx 15 girls but, still was thinking I might get a better deal with Ricardo and his girls. I ended up calling him and got assurances out the ying yang about the quality of the girls. He almost hooked me into 500, 000pesos (about $279) for an all nighter with a hottie or 600, 000 for a night with two. I talked him down to $200 for the one girl all nighter.
Girl was delivered to the hotel looking super hot. Ladies and gentlemen, the talent:
Okay, so here's the scoop. I was supposed to get this girl all night, which I assumed to be 8pm till like 7 or 8am. Found out later that she had to go to classes in the morning so she needed to leave at midnight (I should have been suspicious when she didn't have an overnight bag). Before I get into all of that, here's her stats:
Name: Luz Occupation: Ballistics Student at the University Age: 22 English skills: None! BBBJ skills: Fluent. OutFUCKINGstanding! By FAR, the best I've ever had, and I'm a connoisseur (sp? ). I'll explain her technique in some yet to be determined posting, I'm sure! Greek: "No sexo anal papi, es no bueno! " Breasts: Small, but useful. Maybe a 32A or be (I'm not sure about those lower measurements since I usually stay away from them) Attitude: GFE aaall the way despite the language barrier. Height: 5' maybe. Definitely a spinner!
So, when she arrived at the hotel, we went up to my room to get my jacket and exchange some kisses. Then we walked over to an ATM to get some pesos for dinner at a restaurant around the corner. In case you're wondering, at no time did I feel threatened by the "crime" in this limited area we were in. Mostly every guy was with a girl and there were alot of girls alone. The only guys alone were selling junk. They kinda worried me, but I just kept my distance. Same as in the states. Anyway, as we were walking, she's constantly rambling on in Spanish and I just smiled, thinking of the things I was going to do to that little ass later. It was actually alot better than that, I was able to catch some words of what she said then made a little conversation in broken Spanish. Really broken. On my end. Good conversation, which ended up turning into pictionary during dinner! Went to the local sex shop for some lube and headed back to the room.
Put on some music from the iTunes library and wouldn't you know it, she's a hip hop head and was really getting into it, with some wild dancing. I then took some pics and presented her with a gift I bought from Victoria's Secret back in the states: note the green and yellow panties. Also bought her some tight black boy shorts, but her frame is so small, they covered up too much, so I didn't take any pics. She was soooo extatic to get that and had never heard of Vicky's. Poor girl. So, I showed her the web site. She then jumped on me, straddled me and we ripped our clothes off and went at it.
This was a wild one! We went 3 rounds in like 3 hours (1 BBBJ, 1 FS, and 1 with both.) 2 cups for her, 3 for me! Before the last round, she dropped the bomb that she needed to leave at midnight to be ready for class in the morning, but agreed to see me again Friday. All night for no charge! If it works out, that will be great! Since she confirmed 3 times that I had her direct phone number, I think she will go through with it! 4 hours for 200usd, still not bad for the experience I got! Like I said, I think I'm going for a blonde or a threesome today. Gotta pace my budget though! It's gonna be a looong week! Wish me luck!
Rodeo
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Dear Diary,
Man, it's gonna be hard to top the great time that I had with Luz last night. However, I gotta do what the fuck I gotta do. For mongers all over who depend on honest, accurate reviews, I have to sacrifice my own selfish needs and bone these fine ass broads with as much vigor as possible. Ho hum, what's a guy to do.
So, I wake up at about 10:00am, just in time to miss the complimentary full breakfast at my hotel. Oh well, it's almost lunch time anyway, so fuck it. I get out my threads for the day, a dashing brown shirt and paisley brown tie with brown pants. All coordinated to match my leather chaqueta. Fuck, there I go slipping into Spanish. I meant jacket. Took off for the Andino mall, one of the better malls I've heard. Looking for lunch and scoping the scene for non-pro GFEs. What I found is that, at least for me, you have absolutely no confidence to approach girls if you can't speak Spanish. So, after I walked the whole mall to see what it had to offer, I had lunch at a little food court spot. I forget the name. But, I had some awesome grilled shrimp with some brown rice, salad and plantain chips. Fucking great food! After that, walked back to the hotel. It was drizzling very lightly, but nothing to pull out an umbrella for. Speaking of weather, I noticed everyone was way overdressed for cold weather, when the weather was like between 65 and 70 degrees. I'm talkin leather coats, scarves, boots, the whole 9!
Anyway, after lunch, I walked around about a 4 block radius around my hotel to see what was going on. Not much at about 2:00pm. Oh well, back to the hotel room to hunt for my prey. I get on the net, looking for either a hot blonde or a duo for a threesome. Preferably, a hot blonde AS PART OF a threesome. Alas, I ended up with a brunette with blonde highlights due to false advertising. Yes, bait and switch even here in Bogota. Here is the girl I ended up with, still a hottie, but not the one I was looking for:
Mariela's stats: Height: about 5'3" Age: 25 Occupation: Acting student Breasts: 36D Ass: Oh my fucking God. ABSOLUTAMENTE the best ass I have ever had contact with. Sorry Cassidy. You've been beaten. Body: What the fuck? ! Horribly, horribly scarred. Fucking horribly (yeckh! ) Looks like she was patched up after a war or something. Nothing worse than opening a perfectly wrapped present only to find a dented, beat up gift. God dammit! Gift: 200, 000pesos/approx 100usd for 1hr 15min. I didn't give her a Vicky's bag either BBBJ: No, only CBJ. Great technique, but I am automatically turned off by a CBJ. Greek: Nope
So, basically, nothing too special about this broad except her amazing ass, unfortunately, she didn't really know how to use it! We went through mish and cowgirl after the CBJ, then I played with her ass in CG, bouncing it on my rod and that gave me my finish. She had no English skills, and we spent the next 20 min after cleaning translating on the online translator. She gave me her personal number for a rendezvous for Sunday, but I wasn't able to tell if it would be free or not. I probably won't call, especially given what I experienced later that night! Keep reading.
So next, I called this dude that somebody at work hooked me up with and he called a buddy who lived close to my hotel who partied alot. We met up in my hotel lobby, then went out for dinner and drinks. Dinner at Hard Rock. Great food. Many many women (did you know that there's a 7 to 1 female to male ratio in Bogota? ). Walked to a club? Called La Piscina. For those who haven't been here, La Piscina is basically a ***** house dressed up like a club. No shit, me and my bud were 2 of 10 guys there among at LEAST 50 women, that was at about 10: 30pm. Oh my fucking God! Some of these chicks were so frickin hot, they make our Miami mamis look like. Nothing. And the best thing was, you KNEW they all wanted to hook up with you, so the roles were reversed. If you made eye contact and smiled, she would come over and sit on your lap! Okay, me and my bro (notice that with drinks he changes from 'the guy that my friend's friend introduced me to' to being 'my bud, ' now he's 'my bro'. Oh well, that's alcohol for ya) had decided not to have any fun that night, but, the pressure was on. I was propositioned 4 times in 1 hour by some real hotties, but shrugged them off. Until. My BRO left me to go to the ATM to get money to pay his half of our bottle of rum that we drank! I only had enough cash to cover my half. So, by myself, I had to try to muster the resistance that no man should be faced with. This little light skinned, dirty blonde girl, with a "not a knockout", but slim body kept making eye contact with me, so I smiled and that was it! She came over and started talking. Again my broken Spanish, her broken English. Very little small talk, then, I ask how much. She initially says 300, 000pesos (150usd). I laughed inside and said no, how about 150, 000 (75usd), without hesitation, she agreed, but I told her to give me her number so I could call her another day. Otherwise, I would have had to pay a house fee for that night to take her from the club or to a room in the club. Got her number, email, home number and more than I thought I would get without dropping a dime. We made out for the rest of my time there--kissing and groping. Great time! Oh, by the way, that 150, 000 was for the whole night. So, unless I find someone better for less, she's my girl Sunday! You may remember, I already have a girl Friday (Luz, for free). And I'm going to a dude's house party which promises to have girls, so who knows with that! Ahh, I'm spent for the night. Enjoy the pics below of my hot ass, useless online chica, Mariela. She didn't want her face shown and wouldn't do full nude, my guess is because of the scars and bruises. I think maybe from lypo or other plastic surgery.
Rodeo
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Dear Diary, So, I wake up early on Day 3 to go to the embassy to get a security briefing, fuck, I'm pissed because I was wasted when I originally wrote this and it was alot better (funnier) than now! Anyway, I was there from like 8:30 til 11am. Then, back to the hotel to change into some more comfortable clothes. After that, I went to Atlantis mall and Unilago mall (unilago is actually a big electronics mall and that's ALL they sell there. Huge, but a little overwhelming). I was actually trying to find a cheap cell phone upon recommendation by one of the guys at the Embassy. Said it would be good if I ever got into a situation where I needed help (offline, also said I would need it to keep up with the chicas. IF I was into that. Little did he know! ). So, I'm walking down this big street looking for Unilago to find a Comcel store (didn't end up finding it there as recommended). After that went to Atlantis Mall and found it there (this is also where Hard Rock Cafe is (I'll have to get a Hard Rock Cafe T-Shirt)). Phone was like 57, 000pesos ($28usd), then I had to get those rechargeable minute cards (approx 50, 000 pesos for 75min). After that, I had a late lunch at KFC of all places in Atlantis mall. Tasted about the same. Their large is like our medium though, so, I ended up getting 2 drinks (I hadn't had anything to drink ALL Day and had done a lot of walking). By this point, I needed to figure out my girl plan. This was supposed to be the night that I saw Luz again. For free. She wasn't supposed to come by till 10pm, so I figured I'the go back to La Piscina for a couple of hours to make some contacts for the next few days. Then, I'the head back to the hotel to meet up with Luz and maybe get some chow. So, off I went to La Piscina. The streets in Zona Rosa were very busy considering it was a Friday night. As I was going in, some guys (I call them hype men) outside of this other place next door were trying to get me to come in. Maybe later. La Piscina was empty at 8:30pm, but, I figured I'the hang out till it was time to meet Luz. There was only one girl there. Sitting on the other side of the club and I couldn't tell what she looked like. So, I sat alone and nursed a drink for like an hour before she got up to go and get a drink and walked past me. WOW! She had the most AWESOME petite figure. Made Luz look like a fucking kid or something (Luz had small tits) and she was absolutely gorgeous. I ended up motioning for her to come over. Turns out she is an acting student at the University. She should be, she's fucking hot! She wanted 1, 000, 000 pesos for the whole night. Wow. I thought, what flavor crack is this ***** smoking? Then I thought she could easily demand that much in Miami and guys wouldn't think twice. I mean, she was like 36D (implants)/22 waist/36 hips (with a plump colombiana ass). More than I was willing to pay in Bogota though. I don't remember what her hourly rate was, but it was too much. So, I got her number to see what we could negotiate during the day hours. Oh well, time to go meet my Luz I headed out to the hotel and was again pulled aside by the guys next door; I'll probably check them out later. Got to the hotel, no Luz. Tried calling, but, when I called, I think her voicemail was full or something, so I never got through. She doesn't know my cell number from her caller ID, so, she wouldn't have known to pick up just for me. Fuck, there goes my plan for the night! Oh well, guess I gotta find one of the other million or so girls available tonight!
So, back to La Piscina. When I got there, this black chick, fine as hell mind you, but I've had my share over time, kept on me about selecting her and she was really convincing. Good thing, though, she didn't lower her price from 300, 000pesos. Although that was for all night. She was just like a fly over your food, "*****, go away, damn" was what I was thinking. By the way, it's sorry I know, but, I used an online language translator to write out different things I might want/need to say to girls in spanish. Worked pretty well for the most part. Kept from having uncomfortable silence. Anyway, I didn't hook up with the black chic either. Hung around La Piscina for another couple of hours sipping my one drink and coke (a-cola). Talked to one blonde colombiana--Tatiana with a nice rack, but up close, jacked up teeth. She wanted too much also, so I kicked her to the curb. Then, haha, then, well, lemme explain, from the time I walked in the second time, there was this chic sitting diagonally away from me with her fully clothed (obviously not a working girl) amiga. This girl was built like a brick house. So, I figured, I already had a petite girl, why not go to the other extreme. Now this girl had a few pounds, but still VERY shapely with HUGE FUCKING TITTAAAES just on display! I stared at her for a good hour and a half before calling her over and trying to make conversation (name: Liliana). She wanted something like 500, 000 pesos per hour and I was like. Damn, but nope! Got her number and would call later. My girl that will hang w/me Sunday night, hopefully was there and we talked for awhile, made out some, then I left to go next door. Club extasis (not sure if its related to the extasis website, but it's another *****house/club). I was no-kidding THE only guy among 30 women and was groped by at least 10 on the way in. IT WAS FUCKING GREAT, DUDE! As I was walking, this other just BIG GRANDE tittied chick jumped in front of me as if to say, "hey, look at these, don't you want them? " I think she made all the girls mad, because they were all trying to make eye contact with me, but SHE was perfect and had ALL my attention. Great ASS, great TITTAAES, okay face (name: Maria Jose). She danced a little bit right in front of me to show me she could move and BOY could she. As usual, rate was too high, so I got her number to call later. She wouldn't fuckin leave though, then, ol' girl had the nerve to order a drink that she thought I was gonna pay for. FUCK THAT. There's only one way I'm getting fucked tonight! I told the waiter after he brought it, "no comprar, no comprar" and was ready to leave until they took it off my tab. I was NOT feelin that shit! I shoo'ed her ass away. Still intending to bang the shit out of her one day though! And talked to some other girls. Arranged for 2 (Natalia and Paola) to visit me at the same time tomorrow for 100, 000 ($50) each for 2 hours to get a world class BBBJ. Then, I hit the road home. In all actuality, Day 3 was filled only with hopes and promises for the future. So, I went back to my room, satisfied that I didn't get ripped off and hopeful for the connections I had made! At the time of me writing this, it's actually Day 4 and I just finished with one girl and another just called for an appt in 1 hour. So I have to go get cleaned up. Wouldn't you like to see pics? Ha ha. You'll have to wait till day 4's diary. After this chick leaves, I'm going to a party with muchos amigas so, no telling what that will hold. I've already got some pics and if the next girl allows pics (by the way, she's in school for modeling), you will be in awe. I won't tell you who till next post, but, suffice it to say, you should all envy me, for this day, Saturday June 2nd is a GREAT day in hobbying history. At least for me! Till Day 4.
Rodeo
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Dear Diary,
You know, if this shit was legal in the states and there were SOOOO many hot, eager women, no one would get anything done!
For Day 4, I woke up just in time for breakfast, right around 10am. Complimentary Eggs, Hash browns, empenadas, cheese, ham, fruit, cereal, toast...not bad! After breakfast, I called the girls who I wanted to see from La Piscina and club Extasis: Maria Jose, Liliana, and Paola (the first one mentioned in Day 3). No answer from either of them. Hmmm, I also called Luz, no answer. I decided that I probably shouldn't call the duo that was gonna come over for 100,000pesos each. Though I believe the service would have been good, they weren't really LOOKERS...neither were really worth writing to you guys about or spending what I was planning to. So, I got online and figured out who I'd order from there. Also, I went to the doorman and asked him if he could hook me up with a girl...he said, probably minimum 200,000 (probably something built in for himself). I went back to the room, prepared to order online...just then: MY PHONE RANG!!!
It was Liliana returning my call. After getting through my bad Spanish, I asked her again for a 2hr rate and she quoted me 200,000 for 2 hrs...wow, a big decrease from last night! I figured, hell, she would get the 200,000 I was gonna give to the others that I decided against and I would be WAAAY happy with her. She said she could be over in 2 hrs...perfect!
Liliana's stats:
40D/26/38-40hips
Hair: Black, shoulder length
Eyes: Brown
Occupation: not a student, couldn't figure out what
Tattoos: one or two tats
BBBJ: A very visually appealing BBBJ with gusto...slow and sensual
Positions: everything was offered, but greek
Photos: not camera shy (see pics below...even during BBBJ)
Other: no hideous, hidden marks
actual time spent: 3 hrs
She showed up in a tight Dulce & Gabbana shirt and some black jeans. Very sexy, yet conservative. Kinda had a NY look to her dress. Anyway, like I said, she wasn't camera shy and let me take a few pics of her in the Victoria's Secret stuff I got. She was very appreciative and it made for a great session! I knew I was gonna oil up her tits and ass. She started out with a really awesome BBBJ that made my toes curl. Her style was nice and erotic with eye contact and everything. DAYUM! I kinda seduced her a bit to get her in the mood (oil massage of her tits, DATY, back massage). I like to have them almost begging for the cock. Which she did. Several times! Finally, I gave it up because she looked like she was about to cry if I didn't. Seriously. Funny, she had such a stand offish, intimidating look at the club, and now was like a little virgin with the love of her life. Anyway, once I got into it, I was very pleased that she was very tight and had great muscle control. She had great motion and really seemed to enjoy herself. She had 2, I had 1 cookie. Fuck, I know I was drained from my last encounter with Mariela and my night alone! I would have loved to have a couple more pops. Doesn't really matter, we kept going for like 3 hours anyway. I mostly enjoyed lazy doggy on her oiled up ass. By the way, I had moved the hotel mirror to right by my bed, so we could see. She seemed to like watching also. Damn, it's good to be a freak! Liliana agreed to see me again for free Monday night! Enjoy the pics below!
After my session with Liliana, about an hour passed (and I started writing my review for later), then I got a call from Paola (the first one)! The Gods are really smiling down on me. Now if I was smart, I would have arranged to meet her on like Monday or Sunday, but, no, I wanted to make up for Day 3, so. I asked her for a rate for 1 hr, she quoted me 150, 000 right off the back. DAMN, another one waaay lower than at the club. I agreed and she said she would be here in an hour. FUCK! My dick was still aching from Liliana. Oh well, I'll have to pop half a Levitra so I can make sure to get more than one round. Had to try to clean the room and get rid of the be-dussy smell (that's booty, dick and pussy smell) before she got here. I recuperated and she showed up. Paola's stats:
36D(implants)/22"waist/36 hips (plump ass)
Hair: black, down to her ass
Eyes: green
Smile: gorgeous
DFK: Yes
BBBJ: top shelf...better over time
DATY: No (said she doesn't like it)
Positions: Everything but greek
Photos: Camera shy, but I convinced her to allow 1 from the rear. Too bad too, because, dude, she is gorgeous...you would dream about her; if I lived here, I would make her my live in girlfriend!
She showed up wearing some tight (they don't wear anything other than tight) white jeans and a tank top with a tight white designer hooded mini sweatshirt. Very sexy. Also had some white stilleto boots on! At first, only a peck on the lips, but after 2 more attempts, she loosened up to full DFK. I spent like 10 min begging her to let me take pictures but she wasn't having it. I tried bribing her with some Victoria's Secret stuff, but she was willing to forgo the gift if I insisted. Damn, I guess this was something to do with her aspiring acting career. So, I let her get attached to the Vicky's stuff, then we did some groping and kissing, then jumped up, grabbed my camera and TOLD her I was taking a picture with no face. Surprisingly she caved in and got in position for me. I should have told her it didn't come out right and took a couple more, but I wasn't thinking. Anyway, her pic is below also. Please note the shape of her pleasantly plump derriere! She started undressing me and then I started undressing her. The only fault I saw on her was that I guess her dissolvable stitching from her boob job (looked like adhesive medical tape kinda stuff) was still around her areola. Nice boob job and no sensitivity issues, so I figured, eh, you gotta do what you gotta do to look like that! We got in bed and after some kissing, she moved toward my pipe for BJ, then reached over for a condom. I was like whoa whoa whoa, what's up with that? No sin condon, no sin condon (not without a condom she said). So, I begged and begged and bribed her with another 100, 000pesos and she agreed. Dude, that was well spent! I have never had so many quality BBBJs in such a short period of time all with different styles. If Liliana was almost porn star quality, Paola was fucking Nikita Denise! I'm talking gagging, spitting, great ball sucking (made me shiver), slurping, moaning, eye contact, all you could ask for! I really enjoyed it for like the 10 minutes she did it, but she wanted some cack, so, after I tortured her and made her wait with what seemed like a massage that she really enjoyed. I went in and man, aahhhh! Nothing like entering a tight, petite girl and seeing the look that she is feeling every inch. Then looking down at that tiny waist and the excess ass on the side. Muy bueno! On top of all that, she was absoluteley gorgeous to look at! Anyway, she was great in all positions, but I really slammed it home in doggy. Mish is always very sensual for me because you can look the girl in the eyes. Now, keep in mind, I just nutted like 2 hours ago, so, I knew that me coming again would be a challenge, she didn't need to know that though. This girl is a champ though. Her cowgirl was extremely animated. It seemed like the longer we went and the more tired she got, the better she moved. I had her oiled up as well, so that helped with the motion and in feeling her ass. As it was looking like she was losing her confidence in being able to get me off, I suggested more BBBJ. That's when she went at it like a porn star. Without telling her, she moved into 3 of the best positions so we could see in the mirror. She liked watching herself too, I guess part of that whole acting thing. She must've BBBJ'the me for a good 30 minutes. Just fucking awesome. Still no pop though. About 1/2 way through, I told her it was okay if she wanted to stop. And really it would have been because I was already in ecstasy from everything she had done thus far. She had a disappointed look, said NO and asked me to please try to finish or she will feel bad. Talk about a quality provider, huh? So, after the BBBJ didn't do it, though I could tell I was at the edge, I suggested another round of mish. She complied (probably because she didn't have to do any work). That did it! Maybe 10 minutes and I shuttered like a screen door in a Cat 5 hurricane. She also agreed to see me for free on Monday! Enjoy the pic as best you can!
I can't even tell you which of these 4 girls so far has been the best. I'm just fucking done! By the way, THIS is not the end of my day! Check the girls' pics below, but look for another post. Eh, fuck it, not much to say, here it is: went to a house party at a work acquaintance's apt, like 25 girls and 6 guys were there. Girls were all professional, high class. Most were available, but looking for long term stuff. Stayed there till like 2am, then went with 3 guys to find some action. Went to Pananea's (after after hours ***** dance club). Okay, I guess. Was approached by a Colombiana who looked like a mixed black/white girl, but full Colombiana from Baranquilla. Great shape AND could speak perfect English. How's that you ask? Well, she learned in college. And in Med School. She's a fucking Doctor dude! Fucking A! SCOOOOOOOOOORE! We had a long, like 2 hr conversation and she was awesome, we made plans for late lunch/dinner the next day (Day 5) and she will pick me up in her car. Nice! Hopefully, she can be my Non Pro/GFE experience. If we don't hook up, I'm gonna be looking for a blonde, someone who does greek, and/or someone who'll let me blow on her face. Day 5 awaits!
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I think I forgot Liliana's photos for my last post, my apologies:
Dear Diary,
Man this pace is really starting to drain me. I’m glad I’ve only got another day and a half. Anyway, Day 5 was pretty cool. After I woke up, I called my doctor amiga, Mary to firm up our plans. We decided to go to Andres Carne Restaurant in Chia. I took a shower and straightened up a little from the previous day’s mongering in the room.
She picked me up near my hotel and we were off. Real great conversation with this girl. Great experience to be able to speak to a Colombiana who can speak English. Probably would be nearly as good with other Colombianas if I could speak Spanish, but, it is what it is! The restaurant was about 45 minutes from my hotel with the traffic and rain. Got to the unfinished (grassy) parking lot and was a little anxious about crossing the parking lot to the restaurant in the rain (no raincoats or umbrellas). The Andres staff hooked us up with umbrellas though. They met us at our car. Nice touch!
About Andres: It’s one of those must-do spots in Bogota. It’s a restaurant, yes. You can pretty much get whatever you want. Very long menu. Almost like a LATAM version of The Cheesecake Factory mixed with one of those corny Midieval (sp? ) Times places as the restaurant workers are dressed up in costumes and they have little skits and entertainment while you eat. In addition, though, towards the end of the evening/at night, the place pumps up the volume for music and dancing. It’s only open Friday – Sunday. According to my friend, people usually arrive at lunch, eat, talk, dance, and party until 2 in the morning. Except on Sunday, the day we went. It is more of the family day to go.
Anyway, about my amiga/chica. We enjoyed dinner and talked of everything from US perceptions of Colombians, immigration in the US, healthcare issues in Colombia, traveling, Mexico, the war in Iraq, the war with the FARC ("ideological" narco-terrorists in Colombia—not her words, mine), relationships in Bogota, tourism in Barranquilla, Colombia, and a lot more! I convinced her to take a pic, but she was camera shy apparently due to being a really fat kid and being forced to take school pics (she ain’t fat no more! ). I’ll wait to post that pic only if we hook up. So, no, we didn’t hook up that night. Said she had to do some work for her job at home to send to her boss that night before she went to sleep. She asked me to come by Monday night though J
After she dropped me off, I called Valentina who I met the first night to come by for our overnight tryst. Whew, she was a little freak man! One thing though, she didn’t look as good in the face as I thought she did in the club (which wasn’t much then). Oh well, a cheap overnight, so what the hell. Turns out. Well, here are her stats:
32A/24/32
Hair: Brown, mid-back
Eyes: Brown
BBBJ: Yessir!
Greek: Woo Hoo, check off that block!
Photos: yeah, a few, nothing special about her looks though
Occupation: don’t know
Positions: mish, doggy, scissors, lazy doggy, standing up against the wall
Other: She had really nice skin, no marks at all, a very nice skin tone and a sexy, not tight stomach.
So, she gets in and I try to make some small talk in my broken Spanish. She responds in some broken English. After trying a bit, I was able to communicate with her without my online translator. Her English was a little bit better than my Spanish which was tough, but gave us a better opportunity to talk. I soon broke out a Victoria’s Secret bag and she got really excited. I asked her for some poses in one of the sets of panties that I bought, but, she didn’t really have the assets to make them look good. See the pics below. Either way, she started out with the BJ, which she started to make a CBJ till I begged about 2 minutes. Then, she said, "why not" and went to town on me. She had the sloppiest yet. Again, not a disappointment in Bogota in the BBBJ department. Had the mirror in place, so I got to see the action from 2 angles. Drained, still, no pop for me, but it felt DAYUM good. I contemplated DATY, but, just didn’t fucking feel like it, so I didn’t: my pesos, my choice, right? I rolled her on her stomach and started massaging her back with baby oil, which she really liked, slowly worked down to massaging her ass, then. Her asshole. No complaints (hmmm). So, I slid inside her hot box from behind (not Greek just yet) and you would have thought it was her first time! Tight and very responsive. I wouldn’t guess she gets much work with the competition she has in La Piscina, so, maybe that had something to do with it. Anyway, after awhile of that, I let her do some Cowgirl, which was rhythmic and very sexy on her part. Once she slowed down, I reached around and started playing with her glory hole to loosen it up. No complaints. Got her in lazy doggy again with both of our faces looking directly into the mirror. Great to see the near-agonizing ecstasy on her face after every centimeter going in. After a few minutes when she looked really in pain, I asked if she wanted to stop. She said that slow was good, but not fast please. So, a few minutes more, then I popped. We cleaned up a bit, then watched some TV. We went at it one more time, showered, then went to sleep. I’d say we probably went about 3 hours (total) before we showered, listened to some music, and practice each others’ languages, then went to bed. I planned to get more in the middle of the night, but I was too tired. Next morning, we went at it first thing. Went down to complimentary be-fast, which she really appreciated (gratitude shown by another BBBJ in the room). She took off around 11am and here I am writing my review! Plan for Day 6- pm: maybe dinner with the other Americans I met here, then overnight with my amiga (or, if not overnight, back here to call in an overnight or just enjoy the sights at La Piscina) Day 6 will be my last night. I miss you guys!
Rodeo
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Day 6 – Bogota
So, here I am—my last full day in Bogota. It has been quite an experience! I can’t imagine how much better things would have been if I could speak Spanish. I could definitely see adding Bogota to my list of regular places to visit. Anyway, I’ll get to my overall thoughts on another, summary post.
After Valentina left, I planned to do a little bit of sightseeing before meeting up later with some friends for dinner. I called around and the going rate for a cab to the Salt Cathedral (in Zipiquiria. On the outskirts of Bogota) was about $80. No way, I could get an amiga for that price! I thought about just taking a taxi to the Candeleria (the historic area), but didn’t want to deal with a new environment on my last day. I probably could have found some quality providers there from what I’ve heard. Oh well. I ended up taking a nap until about 4 or 5 pm, then tried to get in touch with my Dr. Amiga. She said she would be working late, but could meet me and my friends for dinner.
The bunch of us ended up going out to a great restaurant called 1492. Dr Amiga called and said she was just going to go straight home because she was beat from work. This was at about 8:30pm. That sucked. I was the only one by myself. No problem, I called in my next string. Always gotta keep one on deck, right? ! I invited Paola to join us for drinks at Bogota Beer Company, and offered to pay for her taxi. She agreed and arrived about 10 min later. We had some laughs and some drinks, then we dispersed and I walked her over to La Piscina. Where she had to work for the night. She asked me beforehand if I wanted her for the night, but I declined. Variety is the spice of life, right? I sat in La Piscina from like 11pm till 3am.
I had this theory that once the club closed, the prices would drop dramatically. I was right! Found this hot blonde (check off that box) who was asking 400, 000 pesos for just 100, 000 pesos. I would have preferred this darker skinned spinner with short hair because she was cuter and more energetic, but, I had to meet my criteria in the name of the hobby, so, I went with the blonde. Her stats:
Name: You know, I never fucking got her name? haha That’s awesome!!
36C/25/36 (nice, soft, average body)
Hair: Blonde, below shoulders
BBBJ: Pretty good
Positions: Mish, Cowgirl
Occupation: Don’t know
Photos: Yep, couldn’t get her to stop posing
Eyes: Blue
Age: 26
I approached her right outside of the club as all the girls were walking out. They were all clamoring for the few guys’ attention looking for some last minute dick-and-dollars. I literally went from one girl to another and negotiated right in front of the others. I originally had the spinner lined up for 150, 000 till I noticed the blonde. She accepted 100, 000. I tried to get this other blonde who was Super fine and had done a strip show for us, but, she declined my offers. Oh well. So, went to the hotel with the other blonde, gave her the remaining Victoria’s Secret stuff and went to work (see photos below). She was very erotic. Lots of touching, dirty talking, kissing and moaning. I put on some music and that was all she wrote. She went down for the cack for a BJ, then reached for the rubber. Do we have to go through this shit every time! ? So, I fucking begged her not to use a condom for the BJ, she tried to extort more money, but I refused. I talked her into it and boy did she go to town! Lots of saliva and gagging (good call, I thought to myself). I really was exhausted by this point in the night, so, I didn’t put much into the actual session. I almost forgot. This girl was lactating. I noticed as I was sucking on her tits after I blew my load. She had said in the beginning that she had a 1 yr old kid, but acted surprised when she saw the milk. Whatever, I squirted some onto my cock and made her lick it off. I had to make sure she got her Vitamin "the" for the day, right? I'm such an asshole! We probably only went for like 45 minutes and I just stopped, offered her a shower and a beer and started getting dressed. I booted her out, showered and collapsed from exhaustion! Finally, no more fucking!
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[QUOTE=Mel365]Will wonders ever cease? While in Colombia I left novia #1 with a relatively new 15 inch laptop, a camera, and a headset with microphone. I was surprised to find that she had two pretty good Pentium 4 computers in her house. It seems that her father uses one for the lawyer that he works for. The other is for her daughters. Both are pretty full and run slowly on the dsl phone lines. We have been using Yahoo instant messenger with Audio and video. To talk almost every night. It runs pretty quickly with the video refresh rate on the computer of about 12 seconds Last night she said that tonight she would have a regarlo (gift for me).
I couldn’t imagine what it was, well we called and connected, she had on a beautiful black low cut dress and a nice amount of makeup. Over the next forty minutes she proceeded to slowly strip and lie in the bed legs open to the camera and put on a fantastic show for me. I almost pole vaulted out of my bed when she was finished, and I mean she was FINISHED! I wish I could have recorded the audio and video for myself when I am old and in a wheel chair, but the hard on would probably kill me. That’s a new one for me, her orgasm over the computer, and I know it was for real. She loves it when I talk "dirty" to her. That has to be a mongering first. I would love to relate the conversation to the group as it was very hot, but it was personal and off the mongering scale.
What could possibly be next.
Thanks to my mongering buddies for the encouragement and great advice, particularly zing and routard.
Mel[/QUOTE]Virtual mongering--the wonders of modern technology! Now if we can just get cyber face shots (wouldn't that have been cool if your girl had squirted some lotion on her face to simulate your Orgasm) and we'll be set. Nice post bro!
Hello mate.
Seams you are having a good time in Adult's Disneyland.
Two things:
(1) I will be there next week and was wondering if you wouldn't mind sharing some phone numbers?
(2) Are you coming to Pty? Maybe we can hook up there one night for beers and chicas?
PM me for details.
Saludos.
LB.
Nice series of reports. Which hotel did you stay at? What is a lazy doggy? Is this where the girl puts her head way down on the mattress?
Body wise I actually thought your best girl was Valentina. Which makes me wonder even more how her face looks like.
Good job!
Fantastic set of posts. Wow.. very shocking that you weren't real positive about Valentina. I too, just as Altomu has stated, think Valentina is without a doubt the hottest out of all your fotos. But, we all have our own tastes. Glad you had a great time.
I might comment on the prices you spent. It seems you always would jump when you would have a gal asking for 1,000,000 pesos or even 400k pesos and then you get them down to 200k pesos or 100k pesos thinking you have some sort of bargain. They start this high for a reason... so you will think exactly like you did, that you have a bargain. When the reality is I assume these gals very very rarely get over 100k pesos for a pop. I also, think you gave in a little too much for a bbbj.. .100k pesos? 5k pesos usually does the trick if they absolutely won't do it for free.
I can't state that none of these gals ever get more than 100k pesos as I have "mongered" very little in Bogota. But, as I have stated numerous times.. when I do monger I never pay over 60k pesos. Just keep that in mind on your next trip.
Thanks for the reports, they were a very interesting read, and of course as I stated above... Valentina has that bod that I enjoy.
QUOTE=Rodeo9112]Dear Diary,
Man this pace is really starting to drain me. I’m glad I’ve only got another day and a half. Anyway, Day 5 was pretty cool. After I woke up, I called my doctor amiga, Mary to firm up our plans. We decided to go to Andres Carne Restaurant in Chia. I took a shower and straightened up a little from the previous day’s mongering in the room.
She picked me up near my hotel and we were off. Real great conversation with this girl. Great experience to be able to speak to a Colombiana who can speak English. Probably would be nearly as good with other Colombianas if I could speak Spanish, but, it is what it is! The restaurant was about 45 minutes from my hotel with the traffic and rain. Got to the unfinished (grassy) parking lot and was a little anxious about crossing the parking lot to the restaurant in the rain (no raincoats or umbrellas). The Andres staff hooked us up with umbrellas though. They met us at our car. Nice touch!
About Andres: It’s one of those must-do spots in Bogota. It’s a restaurant, yes. You can pretty much get whatever you want. Very long menu. Almost like a LATAM version of The Cheesecake Factory mixed with one of those corny Midieval (sp? ) Times places as the restaurant workers are dressed up in costumes and they have little skits and entertainment while you eat. In addition, though, towards the end of the evening/at night, the place pumps up the volume for music and dancing. It’s only open Friday – Sunday. According to my friend, people usually arrive at lunch, eat, talk, dance, and party until 2 in the morning. Except on Sunday, the day we went. It is more of the family day to go.
Anyway, about my amiga/chica. We enjoyed dinner and talked of everything from US perceptions of Colombians, immigration in the US, healthcare issues in Colombia, traveling, Mexico, the war in Iraq, the war with the FARC ("ideological" narco-terrorists in Colombia—not her words, mine), relationships in Bogota, tourism in Barranquilla, Colombia, and a lot more! I convinced her to take a pic, but she was camera shy apparently due to being a really fat kid and being forced to take school pics (she ain’t fat no more! ). I’ll wait to post that pic only if we hook up. So, no, we didn’t hook up that night. Said she had to do some work for her job at home to send to her boss that night before she went to sleep. She asked me to come by Monday night though J
After she dropped me off, I called Valentina who I met the first night to come by for our overnight tryst. Whew, she was a little freak man! One thing though, she didn’t look as good in the face as I thought she did in the club (which wasn’t much then). Oh well, a cheap overnight, so what the hell. Turns out. Well, here are her stats:
32A/24/32
Hair: Brown, mid-back
Eyes: Brown
BBBJ: Yessir!
Greek: Woo Hoo, check off that block!
Photos: yeah, a few, nothing special about her looks though
Occupation: don’t know
Positions: mish, doggy, scissors, lazy doggy, standing up against the wall
Other: She had really nice skin, no marks at all, a very nice skin tone and a sexy, not tight stomach.
So, she gets in and I try to make some small talk in my broken Spanish. She responds in some broken English. After trying a bit, I was able to communicate with her without my online translator. Her English was a little bit better than my Spanish which was tough, but gave us a better opportunity to talk. I soon broke out a Victoria’s Secret bag and she got really excited. I asked her for some poses in one of the sets of panties that I bought, but, she didn’t really have the assets to make them look good. See the pics below. Either way, she started out with the BJ, which she started to make a CBJ till I begged about 2 minutes. Then, she said, "why not" and went to town on me. She had the sloppiest yet. Again, not a disappointment in Bogota in the BBBJ department. Had the mirror in place, so I got to see the action from 2 angles. Drained, still, no pop for me, but it felt DAYUM good. I contemplated DATY, but, just didn’t fucking feel like it, so I didn’t: my pesos, my choice, right? I rolled her on her stomach and started massaging her back with baby oil, which she really liked, slowly worked down to massaging her ass, then. Her asshole. No complaints (hmmm). So, I slid inside her hot box from behind (not Greek just yet) and you would have thought it was her first time! Tight and very responsive. I wouldn’t guess she gets much work with the competition she has in La Piscina, so, maybe that had something to do with it. Anyway, after awhile of that, I let her do some Cowgirl, which was rhythmic and very sexy on her part. Once she slowed down, I reached around and started playing with her glory hole to loosen it up. No complaints. Got her in lazy doggy again with both of our faces looking directly into the mirror. Great to see the near-agonizing ecstasy on her face after every centimeter going in. After a few minutes when she looked really in pain, I asked if she wanted to stop. She said that slow was good, but not fast please. So, a few minutes more, then I popped. We cleaned up a bit, then watched some TV. We went at it one more time, showered, then went to sleep. I’d say we probably went about 3 hours (total) before we showered, listened to some music, and practice each others’ languages, then went to bed. I planned to get more in the middle of the night, but I was too tired. Next morning, we went at it first thing. Went down to complimentary be-fast, which she really appreciated (gratitude shown by another BBBJ in the room). She took off around 11am and here I am writing my review! Plan for Day 6- pm: maybe dinner with the other Americans I met here, then overnight with my amiga (or, if not overnight, back here to call in an overnight or just enjoy the sights at La Piscina) Day 6 will be my last night. I miss you guys!
Rodeo
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I really enjoyed your set of posts, and it was really obvious you had a great time. You have actually encouraged me to want to do Bogota again, as my first experience with Bogota was nothing really special. I never even stepped foot inside a P4P place, but will have to explore that area on my next visit to Bogota.
I feel the same way that Winner expressed to you about the pricing structure. Personally, I refuse under any circumstances to pay over 100,000 pesos's, and that is usually for the entire night, as I am not much of a day monger. I need the day to recuperate from the long hard night I experience before, and that is part of the reason I like to monger in areas that have beach access!. :)
Again thank you for all your time and effort in providing us this great set of field reports!.
Glad you guys enjoyed! LatinBull, hey dude, I don't have a VIP membership, so I don't think I can PM, but I'll try. I've got a good 7 or 8 good numbers in my phone (that I bought in Bogota for future trips and for emergencies). I don't know what kind of restrictions the board mods have on posting phone numbers, let me know and I'll be more than happy. I'll be in PTY for a couple weeks (Aug-Sep), then, trying to decide on Cartegena or Puerto Plata, DR for a few more days of hobbying. I'the love to throw back some suds with ya and definitely sample the local wares! I stayed at the Boheme Royal Hotel in Bogota--everyone I met said it was the perfect location. Calle 82 right in the middle of Zona Rosa and about 8 blocks from La Piscina (the little one, not the big La Piscina down south). It's smack dab between 2 malls (including the one with the Hard Rock Cafe' and around the corner from Bogota Beer Company). Almoto, you got it right on Lazy Doggy. It's when the girl toots her ass up in the air and lays the rest of her body down flat. Winner, you got me dude, I probably could've negotiated better, but I was a newbie to the area. VERY limited Spanish. And just so fucking happy to be around so many hot women! I wish I had some buds to play wingman for me, but, eh, maybe I can get with some of you guys one day!
Rodeo
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Hi,
Are you suggesting
Do you mean to tell us that a sophisticated world traveler such as yourself can't afford a $13 subscription to support this forum and all the work I do to keep it maintained?
Come on dude, a forum subscription is less than 50 cents a week.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
Heard that recently the irish Pub and BBC around the "zona T" and Usaquen are packed with pros and semi pros eager to earn a couple of bucks. Haven't been there lately, but if that's so, it would be a good time to return. Anyone have reports on spinners picked up at these bars?
[QUOTE=DoloresThomas]Heard that recently the irish Pub and BBC around the "zona T" and Usaquen are packed with pros and semi pros eager to earn a couple of bucks. Haven't been there lately, but if that's so, it would be a good time to return. Anyone have reports on spinners picked up at these bars?[/QUOTE]
Don't take your mongering information on BBC, but on ISG. Bullshit as usual. I have visited all the Bogota Beer Company of Bogota and Irish Pub was my main hunting ground this week, I was there every night and have closely monitored the scene. La T, Usaquen and Parque 93 are the main outgoing areas for the upper class youth, and these girls don't need your money. The Colombianas coming in Irish Pub love indeed dating gringos, but that doens't make hookers of them. I have never paid any girl I have dated in the Pub and all expats I have met there dating Colombianas have ever paid for that too. If you are looking for pros, go to Santa Fe.
Nah Jackson, the price isn't an issue. It's probably one of the most affordable sites out here to tell you the truth, I just haven't gotten around to it yet!
Rodeo
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Hi Rodeo9112,
Thanks for your response.
Jackson[/blue]
Thanks Rodeo for the very long and descriptive posts on your experiences in Bogota. Have u been to other Colombia cities? And if so, how would you compare your time in Bogota to those other cities.
Myself, I have been to Cartagena and Medellin (twice).
Termas Time
Termas Time, no, I haven't been anywhere else in Colombia, but, I am considering going to Cartagena/Barranquilla or Medellin at the end of a business trip to Panama. Its either Colombia or DomRep (Puerto Plata) for 3 or 4 days, what do you think? I don't speak Spanish (but did manage to get by in Bogota) and would be by myself. I'the really like to try the coast of Colombia, but I'm wondering how far my $ will stretch. I prefer for the girls to be openly available and not have to do too much work. I. E. I'the like a good selection of casas or the like where I can go in and take my pick. Advice?
Thanks in advance,
Rodeo
Woo Hoo! The Colombian Peso is back over 2000 per USD. Hopefully, the trend will continue on the upswing. (source: [url]www.xe.com[/url])
Rodeo
[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]Woo Hoo! The Colombian Peso is back over 2000 per USD. Hopefully, the trend will continue on the upswing. (source: [url]www.xe.com[/url])
Rodeo[/QUOTE]
I'd like to think so but wouldn't bet the farm on it. Do we know what's driving the change in direction?
One year to prepare this trip. Until now, I have always done my mongering within business trips; very comfortable, no need to build up any explanation, all expenses except girls are paid by the company. On the other hand, it doesn't allow choosing destination. Well, can't complain with all travelling I have done and even being paid for that.
This time I wanted to choose my destination, and I chose to go on pilgrimage to the Mecca of mongerers: Rio. OK, some of you will claim that the world title of sex destination belongs to Thailand. It might be in terms of quantity of visitors, but to my opinion not in terms of quality. We monger because we love women diversity else we could just choose one and stay at home with. In Thailand, there is not exactly something as diversity in women due to the homogeneous ethnical looks. This is the good thing with FKK, only rich countries can attract women from all over the world. It’s not exactly an issue with countries like Brazil or Cuba as they have an incredible ethnic diversity within their population. Brazil has it all, from blondes to black, Indians, Latinas, mulattas, you name it. Brazil has also incredible clubs, similar to German FKK. For years I try to fin out where is the best brothel in the world, and it is most probably between German FKK, Rio's Termas and Sao Paulo top clubs.
The two main problems when building up a major mongering trip is finding the money and a reason to be away from home for so long. For the latest, it was much easy than I imagined, but I prefer not to tell it on the public board. I had tried to find a frequent flyer ticket to Rio, no better way to get a ticket without any expense on your bank account. Unfortunately, even a year before, the only flight I found to South America was Caracas. Of course, who else would want to go to Caracas? I then tried to find on Internet the cheapest way to fly from Caracas to Rio. The only one I found was a flight to Sao Paulo through Bogotá with Avianca.
I know, for most of you, Colombia is a country of violence, kidnapping, narcotraffic and FARC. Not for me. There is something I can't explain between Colombianas and me. And I was ready to go to find it out right on site. While preparing my trip, I found out I was dreaming more about Colombia than about Brazil. Anyway here is the trip, Caracas, Bogotá, Sao Paulo and Rio in two weeks, couldn't be better.
For the money, I had to prepare everything almost a year before. I had opened a secret bank account with a visa card. I had one year to put money on it. Not easy, but I finally found a few stock options I had completely forgotten from my previous job years ago. With the raise of the stock market, I had 10 000$ available. I took only 5000$, leaving the rest for a next mongering trip and may be the stock market will even increase that amount. I took hotel reservations on [url]www.hotel.com[/url], probably the cheapest and easiest way of hotel booking. I had done my homework on ISG and had all the addresses for each city. I tried to learn some Brazilian before leaving as well as some Latin dancing lessons and watched south American channels on TV. I jogged a lot to be as fit as possible as I knew I would ask a lot to my body. Hey, mongering needs a lot of efforts!
I bought a marvellous tool, the latest Glofiish X500, an all in one tool, PDA with Excel, Word Internet Explorer and so on, WIFI connection, cell phone, radio, Mpg reader, photo and video camera and last but not least a build in GPS. All the info I needed for my trip was in that device, a real James Bond tool. I could work for CIA with all the experience I have build up while mongering.
I then tried to find available mapping for South America. Only Route 66 and Destinator had a map for the Rio Sao Paulo region, but nothing for Colombia or Venezuela. At last I found an incredible software on Internet, [url]www.smart2go.com[/url]. They provide for free worldwide mapping running on Windows mobile. Only vocal guiding is provided at a special fee, but I didn't really needed it. I entered all my addresses as POI in my GPS.
Regarding my luggage, I had everything in one bag on the exact dimensions to be allowed in cabin. I had some cash money hidden in the internal zip of my belt in case of, a wallet with photocopy of passport and local money, electronic tickets, and my passport and credit card in safety box of hotel as soon as I arrived. I had scanned my passport and all other info and had put it in my Internet mailbox in case I lost everything.
Of course I was exited to go, but still I was for the first time ever worried to travel. During business trips, I surface from time to time, but this time I'll be Routard for two complete weeks, with no one except you knowing where I really am. Will I be able to surface again? As I felt guilty, I contracted a life insurance before to leave.
Next in the Caracas thread:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=626834&postcount=703[/url]
Coming from The Caracas thread:
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At arrival in Bogotá, we decided to take a coffee together with the two Colombianas met in Caracas. Here I was in Colombia, sharing a Colombian coffee with two great Colombianas, I felt at home from the very first minute in Bogotá. We shared our phones and promised us to call us when I would come back next week from my trip to Brazil. I then took a cab to the center to meet friends who were waiting for me since yesterday. They had arranged for me an apartment for next week in the Zona Rosa area, the major nightlife area. Zona Rosa has nothing to do with Red Light District, it's named simply like this because of the red colour of the bricks of most houses. Most will call this area la T. My friends gave me a lot of tips and contacts, as they would not be there anymore during my stay next week.
[B]HOW TO GO [/B]
The International airport of Bogotá is El Doredo, west of the city. Taxi from and to tehe airport is chep, 20 000 COP. Colombia has a reliable airline, Avianca with links to most Latin American capitals as well as the US and Spain. Other airlines from Europe are Air France and Iberia, From Northern America American Airlines, Air Canada, Continental, and Delta. Latin American airlines for Colombia are Aeropostal, Aerolineas Argentina, Copa and Cubana.
[B]MONEY[/B]
1 972COB is 1 US$ or 2 705 COB is 1€. There are ATM machines everywhere. Life is inexpensive in Colombia compared to other Latin american destinations like Brazil or Venezuela.
[B]SAFETY[/B]
Of course, I can’t say that Bogotá isn’t dangerous, but less than similar Latin American cities. Forget about the picture most people have about Colombia: FARC, guerilla, Narco-traffic, kidnapping and so on. It’s all true of course, but it doesn’t affect you as a tourist. FARC and guerilla are outside the main cities, and I guess most of you are not in the Narco-traffic or politics, so you definitely should not be concerned by the violence around it. Bogotá is much safer than Caracas, Sao Paulo and Rio. I have never ever felt unsafe during all my stay. I went walking anywhere on daytime including in the southern poorer areas, and I went each night walking from my apartment to la T or Parque 93. Only recommendation is not to walk around by night in the southern areas of Bogotá. As long as you see Colombianas walking around alone at night, there is no reason it would be dangerous for you. And as usual, keep all your stuff secured in the safe of your hotel.
[B]LANGUAGE[/B]
I feel sorry for you if you go to Colombia and can’t speak Spanish. You will miss 90% of the fun.
[B]LODGING[/B]
There are plenty of hotels in Bogotá, but the most convenient are those around la T and Parque 93 where all the safe nightlife is.
Morrison Calle 84 N°13-54 Tel. 622 3111 [url]www.Morrisonhotel.com[/url]
Hotel Charlotte Carrera 15 N° 84-94 Tel. 218 1625 [url]www.hotelescharlotte.com[/url]
Chico 93 Calle 93 N°15-73 Tel. 616 4937 apartments
Casa Real Calle 93 N° 9A-53 Tel. 530 4884
Hotel Sofitel Carrera 13 N° 85-80 tel. 621 2666 [url]www.sofitelvictoriaregia.com.com[/url]
Suites Real 85, Carerra 18 Calle 84-56 Tel: 218 0100 [url]www.suitesreal.com[/url] good value as well as hotel as apartment.
Viaggio Tel 635 85 90 [url]www.viaggio.com.co[/url]. apartments in several locations including Zona T for excellent value.
Apartments are the best recommendation, as they include all usual hotel services (security, cleaning, breakfast, laundry…) and are needless to say chica friendly.
[B]LOCAL TRANSPORT [/B]
Taxis are the easiest way to go around. They don’t try to ripp you off as they have meters, usual price from airport is 20 000 COP. If you believe in the urban legends about taxi kidnappers, ask each time where you are to call a taxi for you, this is how most people take a taxi.
Finding an address in the city is easy. The mountains are on the East side. All the Carreras are parallel with the mountains, numbers start from the mountain increasing when going West. Calles start form the center, numbers increasing when going North and South. This means there are each time two Calles with the same number, but when there is no further indication, it is referring to the Northern Calles. An address on a Carrera is like Carrera 15 N°16-20, which means that it is at 20m from Calle 16. Same an adress on Calle is like Calle 86 N°15-33 which means that it is at 33m from Carrera 15, even on one side and odds on other side of the street.
[B]WEATHER[/B]
Take care, don’t assume Colombia has a hot climate as it is close to the Caribbean. Bogotá is at 2600m, temperature is always between 12 and 18°C. Weather keep changing all day long, from rain to sun. Don’t forget to bring your winter clothes!
[B]GIRLS[/B]
We then went to the pubs in la T and I was impressed. It's the major outgoing area for the upper class. I had never seen so many beautiful girls in the same place, I couldn't keep from watching around. I noticed that most were from European descent here, like in Argentina or Chili, exactly the type of girls that make me melt away. The last time I was as impressed by the local beauties was in Israel. The funny thing is that I noticed very soon that they also looked back, making easily eye contact. I smiled from time to time, and I noticed the girls simply replied to my smiles. My friends laughed at me and explained to me that the pro scene is useless. Simply say Hola and offer a drink, a Colombiana will always be flattered and accept the invitation. I guess that if my friends hadn't initiated me into the amateur scene, I would have been to the pro scene as usual. Needless to say, you must speak Spanish to discuss with them, although as most are highly educated, they can speak other languages too. My friends showed me around the best places to go to and we finished in a pub watching the final of the Copa Cup between Brazil and Argentina. Incredible friendly atmosphere, we watched the game with a few other girls we had met. I smiled as I remembered that the last time I saw a match between Argentina and Brazil I was in a complete opposite atmosphere in Partytreff Dorsten. During this friendly atmosphere I really was wondering if it was worth going to Brazil. But I had booked everything and had to leave to the airport to get my night flight to Sao Paulo.
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[b]the amateur scene[/b]
i stayed one week in bogotá. brazil had left me empty, including my wallet. but that was no big deal. i had an apartment paid for a week, was on walking distance of parque 93 and la t, had enough cash money to pay the drinks and food for the week as colombia is inexpensive. my plan was to explore the amateur scene and leaving the pro scene only in case of emergency if i hadn’t scored with the freebies. i will not describe my experience in the amateur scene, these are private matters and i mean for the girls of course. i will simply give some general ideas about my amateur experience but be as specific as usual for the few pro experience i had.
as soon as i had left my stuff in my apartment, i went to andina, the major mall in la t to get a local phone cell. this is the major tool for the amateur scene. i got the phone and a precharged sim card for only 69 000 cop in the photo shop on the main floor of the mall. while walking through the mall, i was once again impressed by the cutties walking around. it’s simply amazing and i love how they watch me straight into my eyes and smile. it happens all day long here, and it has never ever happened me not even once in my hometown. simply incredible. i have to add at this point that i have never ever tried to date anyone anymore since 20 years and i felt quiet nervous about it. well believe it or not, but just a couple of hours after landing in bogotá, i was already at a pub together with 4 pretty young girls. not one night during that week i was alone, the social time was simply incredible. i could meet as much beautiful girls as i liked, coming from the best backgrounds and in the finest environments. yes, i preferred to keep it with the girls from the better neighbors for a couple of reasons. the first is simply because i had been introduced to this scene at first and it went great, no need to go anywhere else. the second is that the girls look definitely much better in the better neighbors than in the poor barrios. i rate 90% of the girls between 20 and 30 in the rich areas 8 or above, while it drops to 30% in the poorer areas. the girls from the better neighborhood are mainly from european descent and are highly educated, while the girls in the south are more ethnic, tend to be fat, have sometimes dental problems and simply not the money to take care of themselves. i really enjoyed discussing with colombianas from the same cultural level, i met even one working in the same business as i do. there is simply no comparison. at third i was afraid that a relation whatsoever with a poorer girl would bring the money issue back, having to support her, which would make things look close to the pro scene again.
how does it work? the fact is that colombianas simply never refuse an invitation for a drink. i saw even a cute girl with a t-shirt “offer this girl a drink” written in english! things can’t be clearer. why, simply because she is always ready to check the available options. i got this explanation from a colombiana. when i explained that western countries girls could be offended if invited for a drink, she simply couldn’t understand it. i had also trouble explaining what was sexual harassment, an unknown meaning in colombia. don’t be shy offering a drink to any girl you meet even in the street, i have never been refused. but watch out, if it is natural to offer a drink to a girl or even a meal, this does not commit her in anyway, and she is still not in your bed, unlike western countries. the second step is the ritual exchange of phone numbers. that’s why it’s important having a local cell phone. if you have her phone, you are on the right path. if you call back and she accepts a second invitation, then it’s rock and roll.
where do you meet the girls? anywhere i would say. what is important is speaking all day long to any girl you meet, even those who don’t turn you on. it must be a way of living. any colombiana will reply to a smile or to an “hola!”. ask any stupid question or say anything stupid about the weather or whatsoever, it doesn’t matter that much. just one sentence is enough, she usually will continue conversation. after a few sentence, there is nothing wrong to invite her for a drink. still i had a few hunting places. on day time is was mainly the malls. there are plenty of malls. but if atlantis is more for the older, unicenter more for the families, andino in la t is definitely the one for the younger generation. i tried also a few outdoor parks during a sunny day, and it was a good place too for meeting girls. it had been said on the board that during nighttime it became much more difficult to meet girls. well quiet the opposite in my experience. the only problem was that nightlife was only thursday friday and saturday. there are 3 main outgoing areas for the better class, parque 93, usaquen and la t. la t is definitely the best of the three, atmosphere is incredible on friday and saturday. a lot of girls walk on the street, but the best meeting places are the pubs. the most famous one is irish pub, but the bogotá beer company you find in each outdoor area is good too. why are these places so good? simply because here is where the expats go. entonces, here is also were the colombianas go who like to date with gringos. it’s that simple. and i mean dating. don’t try to find hookers here, these girls don’t need your money. you will hear all kind of languages around, and it is easy to discuss with the expats. these guys can be of great help to introduce you to the girls they know. when i am with several girls, it’s not unusual that they ask me to invite other guys on our table in order to have a better ratio. yes, i had plenty of girls to introduce to you guys, but only cuba tourist answered me. i guess he was not disappointed about the girls i have introduced to him. again the colombiana theory of checking the available options, nothing else.
the rest is seduction. and for this you need to speak spanish. if you don’t speak spanish, go and learn it and don’t come back in colombia before. i have met an occasional girl speaking english, french and even german, but don’t count too much on it. also, the average gringo spanish that usually is enough for taxi drivers and putanas is not enough here. you have to seduce her. having said this, colombianas are very open and eager to date a gringo. i have heard several theories, one is that there are 7 girls for one guy in bogotá. i don’t really believe in these stats. another one is that if nearly all colombianas are very good looking, the males are much less attractive. this is not my theory, i don’t feel qualified to judge males, i got this theory from several colombianas. my experience is that colombianas are simply passionate, full of love, eager to please a man and can’t live without loving someone. colombianas from my experience seem also to love what is probably exotic for them, tall and blond, but i can’t say for sure if it’s only the girls i meet or a general opinion. for sure i love colombianas and they seem to love me as much as i do.
what were my stats? well, simply 100% for meeting a girl. i have never been refused by anyone. did i manage to get them all in my bed? of course not. i had only one night a day! no kidding, dating girls is not mongering. i started at first hunting as much as possible, but realized soon i was mixing up the names, the faces and the stories i told them. i felt trapped each time my phone rang while i was with another girl. i soon stopped this, and dated only one girl while i could enjoy the friendship and company of her friends. i felt more comfortable like this. i have to add at this point that i felt guilty enough as i needed to lie about my family. no colombiana will date a married guy, catholic culture is strong. yes i know, it’s much more comfortable being yourself with putanas who don’t give a damn shit hearing you are married. this was for me the main problem with the amateur scene. when i watch the pictures where i see myself together with my novia, i feel guilty towards my family as well as towards her for having lied to both. i have never felt guilt before while mongering.
i would have told more about the amateur scene, as it was 90% of my adventures in colombia, but i can’t, sorry for that. hey, i have never read anyone on this board describing the sex he had last night with his own wife right?
[b]the northern part of bogota [/b]
i had to use the pro scene for a few emergencies. fortunately, there were several good clubs within walking distance of my apartment. they are easy to find, any taxi driver will drive you around. they all go on the same way. it’s a typical nightclub with 10 or 20 girls inside. management tries to make you drink, so don’t lose too much time. you can go with the girl in a room on site or you can go with her outside for an hour or for the night. these clubs are more expensive than those in santa fe. typical prices for the night in the northern areas are 200 000-300 000 cop.
the closest were [b]extasis [/b]calle 86a no 14-57, [b]copacabana [/b]and [b]casanova[/b] calle 86a no 14-55, all three in the same street on calle 86a level cr15. the clubs were not that bad, pretty upscale as they were in the northern are, but i didn’t like the pushy attitude of the waiters who wanted me to make me sit and have a drink before i could have a look around. each club had maybe 20 girls, probably not bad looking, but i was spoiled with the amateur scene and didn’t found any girl here that turned me on. there are rooms on site as well as pick-up, pricing is as far as i know around 150 000 cop for the girl and room or exit fee.
i took a taxi and went to check out the other clubs close to the area. i tried [b]lancaster [/b]calle 90 no14-57, opened till 4h00, same pricing as the three others, club with rooms on site, but again none of the dozen girls turned me on, they looked like…hookers.
i continued with the taxi to the next one [b]bar zhivago[/b] (juan pablo karaoke) carrera 18 no 93a-83. this was the only club in bogotá where i found girls that turned me on. it’s as usual a typical nightclub with 20 girls. there are rooms on site or you can take the girl out, pricing is about the same, 80 000 cop for exit fee and 300 000 cop for the girl for the night. i f you wait till closing time at 2h00, there is no exit fee.
i chose a blonde girl that looked like cameron diaz. her name was adriana, she was a real spinner, a bit like cameron diaz too. she asked for 400 000 cop, but she told me she was real good and promised me to stay till the late morning, and indeed she was worth every cop. she is from manizales and has no family in bogotá, so it’s ok for her to stay longer. boy, she was hot! once in my room, she turned the music on and started one of the greatest strip i have ever had. she has an incredible body. when she was fully naked, she undressed me too and took me to the shower. she washed me complete, then put soap on my hands and used my hands to wash herself, especially her soft pussy. i was so hard with her in the shower, she had fun watching my dick. she wanted me to do a massage before, but i declined as i don’t like having oil on my skin. we kissed passionately and explored our bodies. she loved stimulating her clito with my dick. when it was time for intercourse, she did all the job on top of me. incredible, what a stamina! she just couldn’t have enough from it. i still picture her incredible body moving on top of me. we nearly didn’t sleep, the sex was continuous. she felt asleep in the early morning. i couldn’t fall asleep anymore but watched her sleeping for a couple of hours. when she opened her eyes, she smiled and came with her hot body to mine. i couldn’t hold my erection, and as soon as she noticed it, she started again. simply amazing, as it was already late and she just could have gone home. we showered and took breakfast together. i could at last have a normal discussion with her without sexual interference. she is a real cool girl.
during my visit in the same club, i had noticed also another girl named adriana. she was exactly the opposite, dark haired, petite and shy. as i couldn’t go with both, she had given me her phone number and said i could call anytime, she would come over wherever i was in bogotá. on sunday night it was very slow in the pub, just a few girls that had already their boyfriends. i discussed with a few expats, but felt lonely. i called adriana and asked if she could come and meet me in the pub. she arrived one hour later, dressed as all other girls in the pub. i introduced her to the expats as being my date, and she did everything great, no one could imagine she was a hooker. when i brought her back to the hotel, the security guy didn’t register her, he just couldn’t notice it was a hooker. and when she was in my bed, i just couldn’t notice it too…adriana called me several times after to meet us again. i understood that in fact she had also forgotten she was a hooker. yes, she had been the sweetest girl i have ever met. she had given me her body and soul but i realized it later. i remember now the way she looked at me when we took breakfast together. i remember now i few things she tried to tell me. this is colombia.
there were a couple of other clubs in the area i didn’t check out that are supposed to be good too [b]aroma y tanga[/b], carrera 15 et calle 95 and much northern [b]la mansion [/b]autopista norte 117 and pepe sierra (calle 116). the latest is the most expensive club in bogotá.
during daytime, i went to check out once also the massage parlour of [b]abejitas [/b]right in the zona rosa carrera 14 n°83-23 [url]www.abejitas.com[/url]. pricing is around 150 000p too. there were only three girls on a sunday afternoon, didn’t find anything appealing.
[b]santa fe[/b]
the main monger area in bogotá is santa fe, the zona de toleranza. i had been once during daytime to check it out, but there was already plenty of action. the area is around carrera 15-16 and calle 23-24. most casas are still closed except [b]la piscina del dia [/b]at the back of la piscina itself. i entered and there were a dozen of chicas with a couple of guys, nothing special. in the streets there was a lot of street action, girls waiting in front of small bars. some were not girls by the way, watch out! i didn’t try anything, it was just for the record.
i had a meeting with cuba tourist one night. i had introduced him into the amateur scene. we had great fun, too bad we can’t tell more about it! cuba tourist offered me to show me around all the casas of santa fe. we did all of them, as they are all in the same block. [b]la piscina[/b], [b]el castillo[/b], [b]paisa bar[/b],[b] atunes[/b], [b]las vegas[/b], [b]venus[/b], [b]salon[/b], are the names i remember. some are upscale like la piscina with a swimming pool in the middle, but they all go on the same way. they are all like nightclubs with rooms. you enter and exit easily, have a look and go to the next one. each casa has 20-40 girls, pricing is around 60 000-100 000 cp for short time and 100 000cop-200 000cop for the night. we did them all, but i just couldn’t find any girl that could turn me on, neither cuba tourist by the way. i guess we both had our regular girls in mind and the contrast was too obvious.
in my opinion, the saint maarten scene with colombianas is much better than the scene right in colombia. i feel as if the girls in colombia itself are more hardened hookers. they are in their own country, deal with pimps, need to take care of their kids and are in a less safer environment. the colombianas in the caribbean have been selected on look before signing contracts and prefer to go abroad for privacy as most are not even hookers in colombia. colombianas abroad are mainly new in the business. having said this, my few experiences with pros in colombia have been excellent. but ok, i have never been disappointed by colombianas wherever. i met at last a girl from sxm in one of the brothels. we hugged each other, she explained me she was back from carolina since two weeks. she gave me some news from a few girls i know that are still in saint maarten.
during our visit of santa fe, our taxi stopped near some police officers. we exited the taxi and a policewoman smiled at us (i told you that all the colombianas smile!). we started to discuss with her, and she was pretty cool. she showed us her gun, and gave us a few tips to monger in santa fe. can you believe that? yes, she advised us a few brothels and warned us about others. when we entered one of the bars, she followed us too inside to protect us! this is colombia! i’m pretty sure we could have dated her was she not with her male colleagues. did i mention she was the best looking girl of santa fe?
[b]chicas from saint maarten[/b]
i had plenty of addresses of girls i had known in saint maarten. but as i was focused on the amateur scene, i simply had not the time to call them. but then i received a mail from louisa. she was supposed to be in panama, but told me she came back to bogotá this week. i know louisa nearly since she has started in the business, when she was still a shy little girl (check the sxm thread: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=491611&postcount=273[/url]). we have always stayed in touch and she always told me where she was. we have never been novios, it’s simply a friendship. i went to pick her up at the airport, and it was strange for me being the one waiting for her at bogotá’s airport, as it is supposed to be her country, not mine. i was afraid not to be able to recognize her, those girls change each time of look. indeed, i couldn’t see her, had no way to contact her, so had to go back without her. she called me that night on my phone, apologized but was on waiting list and could only catch the next flight. we promised to meet us for lunch next morning. i took a taxi to santa barbara and was surprised how upscale the building was of her apartment. when she appeared, i realized the impact of the business on those girls. she had changed indeed, looked much older, had enhanced breasts, and too much make-up to try to hide the lack of sleep. but she still watched at me with the same eyes. for me she will always be that little girl i have known from the beginning. we went out for a walk. we walked hand in hand and both happy to be together again. i joked with her: “bueno, entonces tienes plata!”. we went to the nearby bogotá bear company of usaquen. she had plenty of things to tell me, and i had also plenty of things to tell her. i am more or less her confident and she is mine, to try to understand each of us the other side, customer and hooker. we have had each our love story we tried to understand. she explained me also the bogotá scene, but realized i knew already most of it. she told me a lot also about the colombianas going abroad. i asked her if she could introduce me to noralba, that famous woman in bogotá that sends all the girls to the different brothels in the caribbean. she told me a lot about noralba, but dared not to call her, as she didn’t want to get in trouble with her. we agreed to meet us tonight, but i was wondering how i would manage this with my regular friends in the pub. mixing pro and amateur scene is dangerous business.
that evening, i received a call from a girl i tried to date for several days. she asked me to meet at the pub. i feared all night long a call from louisa. just when i started to kiss from the first time my date, the phone rang. it was not louisa, but adriana. shit, i had forgotten her too. my date didn’t want to come at he hotel for the first night, i finished alone in my hotel room. but not very long, the next call was louisa. she asked where i was, i answered at my hotel. she said she would be there within 10 minutes, i had not even the time to explain that i was in a romantic mood and not in a mongering mood after that first kiss from my date. i went downstairs to wait for louisa. a taxi stopped at my hotel, but i believed at first that it was not louisa as i saw two people in the back of the taxi. it was indeed her, she was with another girl. the two sexy girls kissed me each of my mouth. louisa introduced me to her novia, nathalia. yes, i remember nathalia, she was in sxm too with her last year at carolinas. the security guy of the hotel had fun, this time he had no doubt about the little spinners and asked them to register. we entered my room and the girls asked for drinks, but i had nothing to offer. no problem, there are other ways of having fun.
the two girls undressed, and went to the shower. i had lost control over everything. they came back and both undressed me. have you ever been rapped by two lesbian girls? this is colombia. the two girls kissed each other, they were indeed novias. they then started both to warm me up as they needed a dick for the party. nathalia did most of the work on me, louisa was busy with nathalia. from what i understood, louisa was the male in the couple. when i was ready, nathalia watched at louisa and told her” he’s all yours now”. louisa was already horny enough from nathalia, and she came straight on me on cowgirl. i had trouble recognizing louisa, she had never been so nasty with me, but i guess it was because she was with nathalia. i fucked louisa in different positions while nathalia was helping her till she came. nathalia then asked for her piece of dick. i fucked nathalia hard while louisa went to shower. i had no trouble performing, i wasn’t ready to come myself and could hold for hours, the scene was too weird being used by two lesbians hookers. when both were finished, i had still not had my orgasm, but both didn’t care.
they dressed themselves up and ordered me to come “para rumbiar.” they called a taxi driver they know and off we went, with loud techno music. they stopped at calle 86 and the taxi driver went to buy them what they need, marijuana for nathalia, cocaine for louisa. the taxi drove through the dark streets of bogotá at high speed while both were taking their dope on techno rhythm. it was like in the movie “rosario tijeras”. we stopped in front of la sala, the major techno nightclub of bogotá. louisa ordered me to pay the taxi and the entrance of the nightclub. once inside, i had trouble imagining we were in bogotá. in the middle of the laser show and the techno sound, hundreds of westernized doped teenagers were moving on the rhythm of the music. people were queuing at the toilet to take their extasy. nathalia disappeared and i stayed alone with louisa. louisa became again herself, asked me to return to my hotel. we entered in bed, and i had again my little louisa back as usual. she was exhausted, clamped on me for a little tenderness and i felt sorry for her. she felt soon asleep, feeling secured in my arms. i realized she was destroying herself, but can’t do very much against it. i wondered how i would find her back next time.
[b]conclusion[/b]
my report doesn’t reflect the experience i had in colombia, as the pro scene was just a parenthesis of my stay. i have lived for a week in a female world deep inside bogotá. i have never been in company with so many beautiful girls in my life as during that week. the fact is that i felt deeply in love of one of them and that colombia will forever be in my heart. i’ll never forget my very last night in bogotá. leaving colombia was heartbreaking, i silently cried in the waiting room of the airport. i’m not sure i’m still a mongerer. i didn’t know exactly what i came to look in colombia, but i discovered a part of myself.
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[quote=routard]the two girls undressed, and went to the shower. i had lost control over everything. they came back and both undressed me. have you ever been raped by two lesbian girls? this is colombia.[/quote]lol! great report routard. looks like you really got to the essence of the country right on your first trip, although you're not exactly a newbie since you've made many connections with the colombianas who work in the caribbean.
your adventures in bogota pretty much dovetail with how my buddy describes it: "bogota is in-f***ing-sane! " his words, not mine.
the anecdote about the policewoman is a perfect example. it took me a while longer to figure it out than you, but colombia really is pretty tolerant and open-minded when it comes to sexual hanky-panky. in fact, i'll suggest to you even those "good girls" who would never date a married man. well i'll bet some of them you dated probably have a boyfriend somewhere or a couple of local f*** buddies or gringo boyfriends.
as long as your subtle, polite, and respectful, you'the be surprised what you'll find when you scratch the surface!
the other anecdote about the techno club also sounds right to me. my buddy is a fan of that type of music, and he told me how bogota is huge on electronica and the drugs that go along with that scene (coke, poppers, weed).
sounds like almost any kind of adventure is possible in bogota as long as you keep trying and keep exploring, widening your contacts and asking around.
i've been to cali and medellin, but i'll definitely have to find the time to check out bogota sometime this year.
Sounds like I need to visit Bogota before I hit Brasil.
This is a fictional account any bit if reality is pure coincidence.
Lets start by saying I am fucking idiot I know the rules of mongering and those laws shoul not be broken but here it goes.
Met cali girl using a web cam site got number went to cali incredible weekend, no drama great play, no asking for money, returned to the states continued taking no drama no family problems, I returned again met the parents, great people anyway the works. Infatuated hell yeah, meet againg on bogota same deal, after she left bogota, I went to the mansion and it was off the chart met this paisita that rocked my world we spend the rest of my trip about a week together and it has been the most incredible week for me, since I lost my wife, funny thing expenses were half and half, she even boght gifts for my family back on the states "aparently she makes as much as do here remember mansion is one of the upper upper class casas in colombia. I been mongering for a while miamiheatlvr can vouch. and as mongering goes, I always known my limits and considered my self in control.
My dilema is the following I am going to bogota for an extended stay, and I am seriusly considering one of them cali girl is awesome looking and great shag
Bogota Girl plain freak (xperience I guess) she still works but is willing to stop for the time I stay. my question is
1. Cali Girl young,inteligent,beautiful 9 on cubanut scale.
2. Mansion Girl don't ask there is something about this girl that makes me loose my sanity.
3. Search for new talent
Don't bring sand to the beach! Keep the chicas in their locale. You should search for new talent. If you are going to spend a lot of time in Bogota, YOU WILL find a hottie there who will knock your socks off! If not, then YOU visit Cali or Medellin and surprise your 'novia'. You have to be in control, if you bring one of these out of town chicas to Bogota you might not be able to get rid of her if things go South.
What can you do?
Cali girls sounds a good bet, but you're now crazy for p4p girl and you won't be able to forget her.
p4p girl will will fun for as long as she lasts.
I'd suggest seeking new talent too, unless you really think you can get over p4p girl. But what you'll do of course is to try to string 'em both along until you go mad yourself.
Any similarity to personal experience is purely coincidence.
O well in my way to Bogota, Will keep all of you posted in the action, and if any of you need help be happy to help "fluent in spanish".
Thanks for all the good advice, Will start with the P4P and take it from there.
Hi,
I love girls with sun-kissed, golden tan skin - you know, the stereotypical imagine of the california girl - and I'm here right now in Medellin and I see a few of them around in the city, but not many.
I noticed the escort sites for Bogota seem to have more golden tan girls than the ones for Medellin.
Would I be able to find more golden tan girls in Bogota? What about both the pro and the non-pro scene?
LuckyStrike
Anyone going to be around August 21-28?
Mel
Hi, I'm going to be in Bogota soon, and need an answer from someone experienced with calling the escorts site.
1) is what you see on the site, generally the same as what walks through the door?
2) will girls go to a posh apartment in a nice neighborhood, or will they only visit you at a hotel? If they say they only go to hotels, is there a way around this to get her to go to your apartment?
Answers by experienced guys really appreciated!!!
LuckyStrike
Fellow mongers,
I am drooling over that South American pussy, I honestly believe that South American women must be the world's most beautiful, I mean look at the Brazilians, Columbians, Argentinans, Chileans, etc.
That being said, I have some serious concerns about mongering in Columbia, you see from what I understand Columbia has a major major Drug problem and that kidnappings and murders are normal, is that still true? Have you guys ever fealt that your safety was threatned?
Please let me know, that is my only concern.
[QUOTE=Ironicwry]Newbie here. Any suggestions on what are the best webcam sites to meet chicas in Bogota? I will be in Bogota for a couple of weeks in September.[/QUOTE]Hey. Try latinamericancupid.com, cybercupid.com, and colombiancupid.com. These sites really work. Just make sure you have a picture of yourself on the site (hopefully you are young and goodlooking. Heheh J/K). Just chat with the girls and ask them for their messenger. Let them know you are coming. You should have more than enough girl than you can handle. Especially in Bogota.
[QUOTE=Al Zachrison]That being said, I have some serious concerns about mongering in Columbia, you see from what I understand Columbia has a major major Drug problem and that kidnappings and murders are normal, is that still true? Have you guys ever fealt that your safety was threatned?
Please let me know, that is my only concern.[/QUOTE]
As long as most people believe this like you do, Colombia will stay the best destination of South America. ;)
Stay in the cities. Do not go where they grow or make the drugs.
Dress down, do not flash money. Carry only enough cash for each day (no wallet) and a photocopy of your passport. That is good for most countries in the world.
Read the state department reports and read more of the posts in this section.
I think it is safer in most cities of Colombia than Rio de Janeiro.
[QUOTE=Al Zachrison]Fellow mongers,
I am drooling over that South American pussy, I honestly believe that South American women must be the world's most beautiful, I mean look at the Brazilians, Columbians, Argentinans, Chileans, etc.
That being said, I have some serious concerns about mongering in Columbia, you see from what I understand Columbia has a major major Drug problem and that kidnappings and murders are normal, is that still true? Have you guys ever fealt that your safety was threatned?
Please let me know, that is my only concern.[/QUOTE]