Awesome service Sauna 20 minutes NE of CP
Wow, I have not posted in a while (almost 2 years) and after reading some of the poor service levels that many fellow mongerers here have had to endure, I wanted to recommend to tell you about a new place, as well as vent about a few issues of what has been bothering me about this site.
I usually don't post anymore because I get all my information first hand from another fellow mongerer who has a car and we can drive to the outer limits if Dongguan county. My opinion has been CP is over commercialized, and we have to go further away to experience good saunas and service.
Case in point, myself and a few other brothers have found a great sauna about 20 minutes north east of CP. We keep going there. The price is RMB 338 all in, a full 120 minutes, with 2 shots. The rooms are clean and they have the lovemaking chair. They easily have over 30 girls on location at any one given time, and every time we have been shown some of them as a nude show. Like all saunas, there are a wide range in terms looks of the service providers. Most of the girls are in the 6-7 range, but there are definately a few 8s there. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Because this place is so out of the way, the girls get at most 1 customer a day, sometimes none. Which means the girls are actually horny by the time you pick them, and because of this, they provide awesome service. Unlike some of the high mileage chicks in CP who just do the deed and go through the motions.
I cannot emphasize enough on the superior service of this sauna. Granted there are many saunas in this price range, however, you get what you pay for. At this location, this is the absolute bang for the buck. The girls will not stop servicing you, and actually worry about getting a bad review or fined by the manager. This is a RMB 300 sauna where the girls provide the services of a location 10 times that price.
However, in the spirit of current environment of ISG of not disclosing information, more flaunting something that I know and you don't. And not to have all you schmucks go there to ruin this new location, I will close my report here and will only respond to PMs from friends.
The Dawg
My last post was ridiculous huh?
My last post was lame huh? I gave enough information to a really good sauna with spectacular service and excellent price, yet I don't post the name, address, location or the telephone number of the manager.
However, this location does exist and I know of a several people who are going tomorrow, just to experience this high quality of service before more and more local Chinese people and make all the girls less horny. Most of the readers of this forum are more than unlikely to have a vehicle who can take them here anyway. Other members here will likely endorse me and this location.
But I'm doing this to prove a point! This is a public forum, yet I am seeing more and more post telling of "secret" locations and requiring PMs to find out this secret. If you are unwilling to share the information, why bother to post in the first place? Maybe because some people with ulterior motives want to be PM'ed about these locations.
To make matters worst, I have recently learned that one particular member here who has been profiting off other people by posing to be a helpful member of the community and offering to take newbies around. (You know who you are). Not only is this member posting or telling things that are untrue, but he is posting because he has an ulterior motive of trying to get business to come his way.
Now I have no problems with someone who does this for a living. People who offer guided tours should be compensated for their time and effort.
Also, don't post to tell people untruths. The Swan Lake hotel does not have construction day in and day out because the 9th floor is done. At RMB 198 a night, it's brand new, with flat screens and all the English TV channels. (CNN, BBC, Nat Geo, Discovery). I don't wake up early enough to eat the "free" breakfast at the hotel where you get the kick back, so stop telling people NOT to stay other hotels. And don't tell us not to go to certain KTVs because the cop are going to shut it down, or don't go to particular BBS areas because it is dangerous.
The HuiHua and Miraton hotels/area dangerous? Please! No more so than the rest of CP. In fact, these 2 hotels are probably the 2 safest hotels in CP (and yes, rooms cost more there). The Swanlake area is much rougher than the main street of CP. Fights in Swanlake area are a regular occurrence. Yes, usually between locals, but it shows you the kind of people that hang around the area. Only the catacombs are more dangerous.
The bottom line is, this particular individual needs to STOP these tactics, as to not ruin the environment for the rest of us who don't require his services. A discussion amongst us old time members has occurred about this person and the service he provides does include inherent value for the non-Chinese or people who are new to CP. It's time to become up front about it. I don't want to take away your bread and butter, but I don't want your services in the long term to jack up the prices of all the activities in the area either as businesses having to increase prices overall to cover for your kickbacks.
-The Dawg
What's with the smack talk?
[QUOTE=HornyAsianDawg]My last post was lame huh? I gave enough information to a really good sauna with spectacular service and excellent price, yet I don't post the name, address, location or the telephone number of the manager.
However, this location does exist and I know of a several people who are going tomorrow, just to experience this high quality of service before more and more local Chinese people and make all the girls less horny. Most of the readers of this forum are more than unlikely to have a vehicle who can take them here anyway. Other members here will likely endorse me and this location.
But I'm doing this to prove a point! This is a public forum, yet I am seeing more and more post telling of "secret" locations and requiring PMs to find out this secret. If you are unwilling to share the information, why bother to post in the first place? Maybe because some people with ulterior motives want to be PM'ed about these locations.
To make matters worst, I have recently learned that one particular member here who has been profiting off other people by posing to be a helpful member of the community and offering to take newbies around. (You know who you are). Not only is this member posting or telling things that are untrue, but he is posting because he has an ulterior motive of trying to get business to come his way.
Now I have no problems with someone who does this for a living. People who offer guided tours should be compensated for their time and effort.
Also, don't post to tell people untruths. The Swan Lake hotel does not have construction day in and day out because the 9th floor is done. At RMB 198 a night, it's brand new, with flat screens and all the English TV channels. (CNN, BBC, Nat Geo, Discovery). I don't wake up early enough to eat the "free" breakfast at the hotel where you get the kick back, so stop telling people NOT to stay other hotels. And don't tell us not to go to certain KTVs because the cop are going to shut it down, or don't go to particular BBS areas because it is dangerous.
The HuiHua and Miraton hotels/area dangerous? Please! No more so than the rest of CP. In fact, these 2 hotels are probably the 2 safest hotels in CP (and yes, rooms cost more there). The Swanlake area is much rougher than the main street of CP. Fights in Swanlake area are a regular occurrence. Yes, usually between locals, but it shows you the kind of people that hang around the area. Only the catacombs are more dangerous.
The bottom line is, this particular individual needs to STOP these tactics, as to not ruin the environment for the rest of us who don't require his services. A discussion amongst us old time members has occurred about this person and the service he provides does include inherent value for the non-Chinese or people who are new to CP. It's time to become up front about it. I don't want to take away your bread and butter, but I don't want your services in the long term to jack up the prices of all the activities in the area either as businesses having to increase prices overall to cover for your kickbacks.
-The Dawg[/QUOTE]
Dawg, I'm really unsure of your motives behind badmouthing someone who I have seen with my own eyes truly just try to help out other folks.
I don't know who you are. You may very well be a very cool guy who would be fun to party with, but before you start mudslinging i think you need to get your facts straight first.
I'm sure there are many who can do what our fellow brother does, but we have neither the time, effort, or inclination in doing it. What our facilitator does is just that.. he facilitates. HE doesn't tack on a service charge, he doesn't make it more expensive than it otherwise would have been, and he doesn't lead us to go to places where he has more of a vested interest in.
In fact, he often and repeatedly has gone out of his way to make reservations and help us make connections with places he has no relationships with. The places that he does, he only gets small renumeration for his repeated patronage. Sort of like being a member at Costco and shopping there alot, you get a percentage back. Instead of us guys who go there only a few times and couldn't rack up enough points to make it worth it for us, he can because he lives there.
Point is, if he was ripping anybody off, I'd be the first to stand up and put a stop to it, because I could easily set up my own reservations. But what you don't understand, and since I've never met you, you haven't partaken, is the intrinsic value that a facilitator does to bring folks together.
Are you going to take the time out of your busy day to do it? day in and day out? I don't think so.
The reports that i have seen from this particular individual and others are absolutely true. Case in point, you speak of recommending certain hotels over others... I completely agree with his recommendations of some hotels because of the pricing and convenience. YOu wnt to stay at Swan Lake? by all means go ahead, but there IS a bamboo structure in front of it as we speak and it is NOT as nice as other hotels in the area in my opinion. I've visited the rooms.. they are okay ,but not as good.
Hui Mei area dangerous?? I have to say I've met first hand a guy who got slashed with a bottle in that area. I've heard stories of others who got swindled in an apartment in that area and taken for his cash. Assuming guys aren't posting tales here on the heist, I can say 100% that I've met the guy who got his head slashed by some thugs. Is it dangerous? I don't know if it's any more dangerous, but it just so happens that these events occurred in that area.
During the day it's fine. IF you take a cab to and from your hotel it's fine.. but I wouldn't wander the back alleys of Hui Mei by myself... Just lik i wouldn't wander the back alleys of Yalan by myself either...
Point is, I don't really understand your motivation for cutting someone down who is truly providing an invaluable service that nobody has stepped up to do. There is no hiding the fact that he can get some rewards from the establishments that are frequented. But why shouldn't he? Is he here to serve us??? As long as I don't get extra charges on my bill, I'm fine with it.
You have to undersatnd, when I used to come here with my buddies, I'd pay an average of 400-500 each per night partying at ktv's. Since I've enlisted the aid of our local brother... I pay an average of 200-300 per night of partying.
We have learned as a group to trim the fat. We have managers and dj's who are trained not to allow random professional drinkers in our room. DJ's who don't throw booze out when it's half finished, etc. etc... when there's a dispute, we have power of volume to help us out.
Next time I go to a ktv, can I throw around you name and get the kind of discounts that he can warrant? You have to understand the nature of business and the benefits that come with volume, in order to understand who someone can provide this service, meet a bunch of great folks and then still save us money.
In short, I'm not paid to do any of this. This is a hobby of mine. But I'm going to stand up for folks who I think are unnecessarily slandered where other folks don't have their facts straight. Point being, if you don't need help, then fine... don't use it.
What do you care if others are aided and connect because of someone else's help. What do you care if that facilitator can get renumeration off of referral business that wouldn't otherwise cost us more?
If you were paying something with cash and I said, "I can use my credit card and get miles" is that wrong? what skin is it off of your back? it's the same scenario here... this is the only way he can feasily stay in CP and do what he does to help us out.
Instead of cutting him down, you should be thanking him for keeping the lines of communication and news open.
Frankly speaking though, I really don't understand your own motivation. If you don't choose to meet up with the folks and parties he sets up, then do your own thing. I frankly don't care one way or another. All I know is that I've met a ton of great folks which I otherwise would have never met had it not been for our friend.
You can continue to party with your buddy with the car in some secret sauna... have fun...
to each his own buddy... just lay off unless you are aware of all the facts.
-J