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sudbad - not anymore
Marlow,
The place gets as much press or more on german boards in the last 4 months than Bernds. The place has changed their pricing, redone the whole place and is now a major force in cologne. No bad reviews to be read other than an occasional thread claiming that Bare Back sex is available there.
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Sudbad
I am always a little wary of the reports on the German forums, because it is well known that certain senators, gladiators and so on on these webs act as unpaid promo managers for certain establishments. Wary both when they heap lavish praise and pour on the scorn. There is a great deal of kameradschaft behind the scenes, trade offs for giving a good report. I grant Sudbad is getting a better press and if you don't mind appearances then be my guest and go there. If you like a two storey grey building in a builders yard on an industrial estate. As for being top of the heap in Cologne, I don't think that is difficult given what else in the way of Sauna clubs outside of Samya.
Girl-wise it rates better than before, but facility-wise, well you can't turn a sow's ear into a silk purse. Sorry to be so tough but.
Yeah, both Sudbad and Bernd's offer real live alcohol. And yes the one great unspoken fact (Every German forum member knows and will never tell you)about both places is that some girls there do it without a condom for a few dollars more.
They also do anal and sandwich. Just ask for the 'crew girls' at Bernd's they'll know what you mean.
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Samya
In every club you can find some bareback-girls.
Samya in Cologne for example is a very well known place for sex without condom. There are reports in german forums about 5-6 girls offering it.
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[QUOTE=Marlow]Yeah, both Sudbad and Bernd's offer real live alcohol. And yes the one great unspoken fact (Every German forum member knows and will never tell you)about both places is that some girls there do it without a condom for a few dollars more.[/QUOTE]In every club you will find some bareback-girls.
Samya in Cologne for example is a very well known place for sex without condom.
There are reports in german forums about 5-6 girls offering it.
Meindorfer
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Alles Ohne
[QUOTE=Marlow] And yes the one great unspoken fact (Every German forum member knows and will never tell you)about both places is that some girls there do it without a condom for a few dollars more.
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Several years ago at Atlantis, once we were in the room, one of the girls told me her "service menu". She said every half hour was fifty, CIM was an extra 50, anal was an extra 100, and BBFS was an extra 250. I wasn't interested so I don't know if that price was set in stone but I wouldn't call that amount "a few dollars more."
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Meindorfer,
You might want to add that Samya is the only club that has asked every girl they have reports of offering BBFS to leave, as opposed to Sudbad and Sheiferhof. I think it is very unfair to paint that club as an AO (Alles Ohne - everything without) club.
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[QUOTE=Peter]You might want to add that Samya is the only club that has asked every girl they have reports of offering BBFS to leave. [/QUOTE]You do not believe this really?
[QUOTE=Peter]I think it is very unfair to paint that club as an AO (Alles Ohne - everything without) club.[/QUOTE]Different users in different forums reports of 'AO' in Samya with different girls. Some names of the girls have been reported too and this girls are still in Samya !
Meindorfer
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Sudbad v Schieferhof
I had the chance last week to vist both places. It is not fair to compare them. They are serving completely different people.
Sudbad had some nice looking girls and I went with one that was a 10 in looks and a 4 in the room. All the girls wore large sashes and were somewhat bored due to the slow night.
Schieferhof has an energy of its own. I was there from 13:00 to 23:00 and watched as the crowd changed and the girls adapted. Had three great sessions and a fine relaxing day. The girls are slightly older but much more experienced. They enjoy their jobs and are not doing it for a couple of months to earn money to send back to E. Europe.
My preferance is still Schieferhof, too bad the enterance fee is so high.
Bob
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As nature intented
This doing it like they do on the Discovery Channel - ohne gummi - may be the reason why certain clubs get rave reviews. Cannot for the life of me understand why fucking bare arsed and bare cocked is such a big deal with Germans. They take it as a matter of laddish bravery to risk erasing their lives by leaving the rubber in the pack. When the east opened up the second reason why Germans flooded across the border to such grim dives called 'Love Hotel' or whatever - where you never drink alone and don't stay the night - was because Czech/Polish girls did it ohne for 100DM more.
Other than that Samya is good fun.
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Is it worth to go there?
I plan a trip to Frankfurt next weekend. It seems like I will be able to reach Bernds around 22.00 Friday evening. Unfortunately they seems to close at 01. To those of you who have been there, is it worth the time and money just to try the place during these late hours? Unfortunately they are closed during the weekend, so if I want to test it, this is my only chance.
By the way. I read some german, and I have seen on a german forum that they write about some specialities around the car park. I have not been able to understand however. Anyone who knows if there is something special? If it's ful just outside the building, what to do then?
Thanks.
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Polar,
It is probably not worth it to go up all the way from Frankfurt for max. 3 hours of enjoyment. I say this because the chances that you will get lost and not find the club right away are high too. The club is interesting, but not really that much better than the frankfurt area that it is worth investing the extra 90 minutes of driving each way.
Regarding the parking particularities. They have 3 parking lots. One directly in front of the house. there are about 5 spots there, almost always full. Then there is a second parking lot about 3 houses up the hill on the same side of the road as the club. It is marked as being for the club. The third parking lot is at the bottom of the street on the other side of the road, with a horse barn backed up to it. It is important that you park in one of their lots, and they will ask you at the door too if you did. The reason is that some of the neighbors really don't like having a club as a neighbour and have nothing better to do than have your car towed. Trust me, you don't want that, and if you park on the street (and not one fo the 3 lots) chances are good you will get towed.
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Thanks for the info Peter.
I guessed that the parking issue was due to the neighbours, but I had not understood the info about the alternatives given. I will keep it for the future.
Sad they are not open during weekends. Maybe I shall try to prolong my stay for an extra day and go there on Monday instead. Is there enough action during daytime, and will I survive with my english (and some poor understanding of german) do you think?
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Schieferhof is packed daytime. They aren't really open late, and the girls are all there by noon. Most of the customers seem to either use work as their alibi (I assume they are the boss) or they look old enough to be retired.
That is the type of customer this club, which has been around for about 25 years, attracts.
I think it would be worth it to add a day for this club.
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"Most of the customers seem to either use work as their alibi (I assume they are the boss) or they look old enough to be retired.
That is the type of customer this club, which has been around for about 25 years, attracts."
Peter,
This is very interesting. I've long read descriptions of the club's clientele being mostly (dirty) old men. It never rang home until I read your statement above.
Tell us: If some of us younger guys --I mean 40s-- show up at this club, will we really stick out like a sour thumb? Will we be judged as more desirable by the girls, or perhaps less so, since we are not some of the regular customers here like the older guys...Or maybe we should spray our hair grey????
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I've been to Schieferhof many times over the past two years, and I'm a fairly young guy (33). I've also seen other (relatively) young guys there (40s), but as Peter said, it is mostly older guys.
I've never seen any indication of the girls preferring the older guys. I've even had a couple of them mention to me that they really don't much care for the really old ones (70+). Of course, I have no idea whether they were just saying this for my benefit or not.
I have noticed that the girls have warmed up to me a bit since I became a fairly regular customer. But that's not to say I got the cold shoulder my first time either. The service there for me has never been anything less than excellent, and the general attitude of the girls to me has always been quite friendly. Nor have I ever felt unwelcome by the other costumers.
Stimpy