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[QUOTE=Bulai69] Other benefits are that it is very non-threatening and low risk to the girl: public place, plenty of people hanging around etc - better than a cafe in so far as she may feel "malu" about waiting alone in a cafe and then being joined by a (probably much older!) man she doesn't know. In other words she is more likely to agree to meet.
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Another benefit for not meeting her in a cafe like Starbucks is that she will not be tempted to order the most expensive item and not finish it because she doesn't like it :D
BTW thanks for thinking that MM stands for Menteng Menteng but I'm not really into that kind of action. So Megang Megang (touching each other or grasping) could be it. I think that ISG members more likely will associate Bulai69 with mallhunting than MM with Menteng Menteng!
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[QUOTE=Asian Rain]I found a site called [url=www.insultmonger.com/swearing/]Swearsaurus[/url] that offers a basic list of naughty words in 180 languages. The [url=www.insultmonger.com/swearing/indonesian.htm]Bahasa Indonesia page[/url] has a good list of naughty words useful for the bedroom, as well as a long list of words to use when I'm pissed off with someone.[/QUOTE]Some of the translations here are inaccurate. 'Mandipantat' as 'motherfucker'? Is that an AR reference, or what? I obviously hang around in more polite company! Do be a bit careful using any of these words or expressions, even playfully - you might find a cup of coffee or a beer in your face, and no sympathy from the bystanders!
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[QUOTE=Wismaasia]Just back in J Town today after a very long 2 months. Seem like forever. So like usual with time to kill, I proceed to Tropical Spa to firstly release my pend up lust and next to get a good rub-down.
Will be going out with my local friend the next nite so see where we end up. Will add that report in time.[/QUOTE]
As an objective and open minded member...I never recommend this spa to our brothers here.
Why don't you try Travel or Comfort Group ? I think they're better than Tropical Spa ! in everything...
cheers.
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My Trip
Guys, I plan to vist Jakarta for 3 days and Bali for 3 days in mid Mar'08. I have been reading this forum for a while but still have a few questions.
1. I is advisable to pay girls in USD or in Rupiyah
2. From Dubai tkt for One way JKT to Bali is USD 150. Are the cheaper budget airlines there or I should buy the domestic tkt from here.
3. I prefer to pick up from BATS but Shagrila hotel is USD 150 . Are there any cheaper hotels walking distance from there. and thier rates if possible.
4. To drive down to Block M from there by taxi takes how long.
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Tercar, to answer your number 2.
You might want check out all in flights DXB CGK DPS. it might not be anymore expensive than DXB CGK.
If that doesn't work, there are dozens of flights a day between CGK and DPS, starting around 40.00 US$ O/W with a LCC, to about 100.00 US$ with Garuda. You can pick up a ticket at any travel agent/ I suggest Lion air, Mandala, or you might try Air Asia online. [url]http://www.airasia.com/[/url]
But no way should you pay 150.00$
have fun.
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Tropical spa
[quote=oyenk]as an objective and open minded member...i never recommend this spa to our brothers here.
why don't you try travel or comfort group ? i think they're better than tropical spa ! in everything...
cheers.[/quote]
i would not be so affirmative and negative about this place. it's true that i have taken a friend there recently, on a sunday late afternoon, and he hated it, unfortunately, because his therapist cheated him on time, number 69 i believe, giving him 45 minutes instead of 90 ... but ... i guess you should avoid sundays and make sure you have a watch to check your time ...
i have been there a few times and was quite happy with it. the first time i took no 68, a chinese indo gal, very sexy and nice. the second time i took the youngest gal of the house (forgot the number), also very friendly. the third time i took no 29 and most of you would go nuts about her boobs ... maybe 36? and very friendly as well as sexy. she usually is fully booked. i just was lucky to be there on a slow day that time.
the owner who is usually at the lounge area where you get the booking of the girls, and where the fl are sitting, is a very nice guy and knows his girls: tell him what you want and he will provide you with it, if available.
you do as you wish, but i would give it a try.
the damages were between 200 krups and 300 krups for the fj tip plus the massage room cost of course.
cheers
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[QUOTE=Tercar 66]Guys, I plan to vist Jakarta for 3 days and Bali for 3 days in mid Mar'08. I have been reading this forum for a while but still have a few questions.
1. I is advisable to pay girls in USD or in Rupiyah
2. From Dubai tkt for One way JKT to Bali is USD 150. Are the cheaper budget airlines there or I should buy the domestic tkt from here.
3. I prefer to pick up from BATS but Shagrila hotel is USD 150 . Are there any cheaper hotels walking distance from there. and thier rates if possible.
4. To drive down to Block M from there by taxi takes how long.[/QUOTE]
1ball has already covered the air ticket question, so I won't repeat.
Pay in rupiah, no need to pay in dollars (the girl would just have to change it the next day anyway). Please don't overpay!
The Sahid Jaya Hotel, a 3-star hotel, is walking distance from Shangri-La. The rates should definitely be well under $100 a night as their front lobby is closed for renovations.
The Intercontinental is also pretty close to the Shangri-La but is probably over $100 a night.
The "Le Meridien Hotel" (Bulai69's favorite hotel, by the way) is fairly close and should cost under $100 a night. That's also where the Tiga Puluh bar is located; it's gone downhill but is still an option.
A taxi from this area to Blok M? Depends on what time of the day it is. After 9 p.m., maybe 10 minutes or less; during rush hour, 30 minutes or more. Stick to Blue Bird or Silver Bird taxis, they're the most reliable.
Hope you enjoy your visit!
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[quote=knight 1001]i would not be so affirmative and negative about this place. it's true that i have taken a friend there recently, on a sunday late afternoon, and he hated it, unfortunately, because his therapist cheated him on time, giving him 45 minutes instead of 90 ... but ... i guess you should avoid sundays and make sure you have a watch to check your time ...
i have been there a few times and was quite happy with it. the first time i took no 68, a chinese indo gal, very sexy and nice. the second time i took the youngest gal of the house (forgot the number), also very friendly. the third time i took no 9 and most of you would go nuts about her boobs ... maybe 36? and very friendly as well as sexy. she usually is fully booked. i just was lucky to be there on a slow day that time.
the owner who is usually at the lounge area where you get the booking of the girls, and where the fl are sitting, is a very nice guy and knows his girls: tell him what you want and he will provide you with it, if available.
you do as you wish, but i would give it a try.
cheers[/quote]
hi knight1001..
me too, but as monger we have to calculate our expense.
travel only 285,000 rupiahs and you get 1 hour in a hotel room with a young gal (condom inclusive). how much have you spent in a spa to get a fj ? 350,000 or 500,000 rupiahs ?
about attitude; you have to tell the management about this, they have to learn.
meanwhile in comfort group you only have to spend 250,000 rupiahs for tip fj (exclusive room around 250,000 rupiahs)...for attitude i chose comfort girl...they are trained well to be therapist and they have very strict regulations in working, such as : when she's late to appear in the room, she will be fined by their management.
cheers.
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[QUOTE=KL Guy]I couldnt agree more coz the worst thing that can happen is misuse and then trouble starts. Please bear in mind that some of these swear words are indeed very crude and could lead to major trouble if used at the wrong place, wrong time & wrong person!
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Indeed, The people from different part of Indonesia got different sensitivity.
I once point my finger at one of my staff whom is about 60 years old and signal him to join me in the meeting from my room///.....
He was so so mad and reported to the President Director that I am very rude to him.
He is Batah from Medan in case u are wondering......
So be careful......
cheers
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[QUOTE=Oyenk]As an objective and open minded member...I never recommend this spa to our brothers here.
Why don't you try Travel or Comfort Group ? I think they're better than Tropical Spa ! in everything...
cheers.[/QUOTE]
Hi,
Objective? Care to explain your problem with this place.
I went there a few time before I knew the owner.
The owner is Ah Guan and in case u are not aware. There was once a Korean SPA operating from Jayakarta Hotel and later moved to Golden Hotel. The SPA provide very special massage which is fr 1.5 hrs. It started at 200plus K rups and last they charged abt 400k rups... It was later closed for reason unknown..... No proper paper maybe. It's also the few SPA in Jakarta where u find some Real Chinese Indo girls here.
For Korean SPA. Service provided are 30 min of pure massage, 30 min of Body massage with oil and last 30 min of BBBJ till u cum (Girls are totally naked) and shower before and after massage.... I love and miss this place until I heard some of the girls that was there is working in Tropical SPA?.
For your infor, they also own Emporium, Java Spa etc ...
Pls justify your comment./..
Cheers
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[quote=oyenk]hi knight1001..
me too, but as monger we have to calculate our expense.
travel only 285,000 rupiahs and you get 1 hour in a hotel room with a young gal (condom inclusive). how much have you spent in a spa to get a fj ? 350,000 or 500,000 rupiahs ?
about attitude; you have to tell the management about this, they have to learn.
meanwhile in comfort group you only have to spend 250,000 rupiahs for tip fj (exclusive room around 250,000 rupiahs)...for attitude i chose comfort girl...they are trained well to be therapist and they have very strict regulations in working, such as : when she's late to appear in the room, she will be fined by their management.
cheers.[/quote]
sorry again.
is it personal? in case u are not aware, the owner of tropical is also a member here and many of his friend.
cheers
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[QUOTE=XXL]In my Mercure Rekso days I often made a point of having an early breakfast on Sunday to walk to Stadium at around 8. In those days there was no disco on 2nd floor so whatever early morning action there remained was concentrated in 4th floor. It was eerie. You got waved in without having to pay anything. There were people (including Stadium employees) strewn here and there, snoring. The waiter/barman on duty was either asleep himself or too burnt out to bother about me. The usual good Stadium music was making the place vibrate as ever. Between 10 and 15 shadows seemed nailed to the dance floor, waving and teetering in puppet-like fashion, presumably waiting for the lingering effects of the night's Ecstasy to wear off before calling it a day. Whichever girls were there welcomed an invitation to go back to the hotel but they tended to be exhausted and not the best-looking. I remember one of them I had brought back. From our Mercure vantage point she indicated the shanty towns across Hayam Wuruk . That was where she lived. Her regret, so she told me, was that being so "miskin" (destitute), she couldn't return the favour and invite me to her home. Note that going to Stadium or any other kota place at such a "late" hour (after 7 a.m.) is safe from the point of view of police hassle. The police are too lazy to linger that long.
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Interesting report there on Stadium.
I once leave the place at sun rise and do see people coming after their party elsewhere, I often wonder where they are from too. Likewise in FM3, when we left at 6am. So many cars are coming in and I must say the girls are guys that goes there after 6 am are one class higher then the normal Indonesia u see day to day..... (shiiiiii.....My Indo friends tell me some are artist)
I was at Golden Crown and when leaving at about 5.30am... I could not find any decent girls to bring back as they were all so so stoned. Most if not all is not dancing anymore but sitting on the floor....
As for Sands.... The place closes at 6 am.... U were see last min fishing by the guys there for the girls that are left at around 5 am.... The girls actually played hard to get at these time as there are more guys then girls.... So be decisive in Golden Sand.. Choose your girl before 5am.....
Fr Sydney 2000... Well, not so difficult. And for Milles.... Piece of cake...
New Place is .. Raja Mas which reopen after a major Renovation.
Other Disco - K7....
Good luck in Disco...
Cheers
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[QUOTE=Knight 1001]I just wanted to share with you guys what I have found out from a girl that I have met through a dating site, and happens to be working in a karaoke in nblok M. Seems to confirm that a 300 000 to 350 000 Rups for the blok girls is somewhat fair, if what she said is true. But maybe some of you who frequent those places (I do not) could cross check that.
It seems that when she works all night, from 8 pm, (but in fact she has to be there by 6 or 6:30 to be prepared), till 2am, she only is paid ... 15 000 Rupiahs if she deosn't get any customer. I thought I misheard ... but no, that is what she said.
If she gets a customer, she is given 5000 Rups per cocktail she orders and in a good night she can get (from her boss) around 100 000 Rups overall. Of course to which you have to add the potential tips from the customer.
It is no wonder that to make ends meet, these girls have in fact to accept to have sex with the customers, not necessarily in the place but usually outside.
It seems that the prices for the room in the karaoke for the evening are 165 000 Rups and the cost for the girls presence is 37 000 Rups per hour, minimum charge 3 hours.
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Bro,
Wanted to reply your post last week but was very busy..
I hang around Blok M Karaoke when I first arrive and basically was there twice a week until recently as they only stock Japanese song,,,,
The system then was.....
Girls get paid daily transport n Food- 5k rup n u said now 15k which make sense.
Bookings is min 3 hours.
Then was about Rup15k/hrs and min 3 hrs and girl get 50%, Last I went 2 years back is About 35 k per hour but the action is much much crazier...
Whiskey is the cheapest in town due to the competition. About 400-500k a bottle of Johnny??? Black and not red./... All u need to do is to go Karaoke hopping and u see they will offer u all kind of discount...
The girls from these KTV are mainly from Bogor and to correct some guys here, these girls do not go to other cafe after work as they need to catch the last bus to bogor, U will notice at 1 am sharp lots of mini buses there waiting...
Other plus point.. The Japanese do not pay tips and the girls here do not expect any either. So the cost is very cheap.
Why these innocent girls are easy pick UP??
They have a quota of 60 hours per month.... Which mean... if they base on normal bookings of 3-5 hors per customers, they were be fired after 3 months if they could not hit their quota. Thus it is normal that the girl u sat with for 2 days will go home automatically so that you will come back next time to support her to achieved that 60 hours target... So we sign 5-10 hours for then on the next visit.
Minus point...
If u are known to be with "A", no other girls will sit with you when you goes there and "A" is not around, it appear to be a unwritten rule that all girls respect the rich bowl of others. Means to each her own....
Let me share with you my experience, once I was so drunk and brought this girl home. Was told later by my friend that this girl is impossible to bring back as many of my friends tried to no avail. Some how we click, U know I am very ugly,..... So we had a good time and I paid her Rup 200k then in 2000... She stayed till morning... Once I was there at the KTV and she was off, I was drunk and my friend SMS here and she came from her KOst to bring me back to my Kost. See the relationship here in Blok M...
Now the best part, Since I was involved with somebody later on. I did not visit there anymore. Some Friend of mine went and insisted that she goes back with one of my friend. She told them straight in their face she is Rainman's girls and she will never ever goes home with any of my friend..... That's what I call Loyalty,,, I had a good laugh when my friend told me this incident. This friend of mine is is so so mad with me till today....
Hope the above shed some light regards KTV BLK m...
Cheers
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[quote=rainman 2108]sorry again.
is it personal? in case u are not aware, the owner of tropical is also a member here and many of his friend.
cheers[/quote]
hi...
it's not a personal matter.
sorry, i don't realise that he also a member here but please follow up bro knight 1001 post (about his friend has been cheated by tropical therapist).
sorry, i do not fear of any spa owner, let the reality talks !...open minded and objective is better !
this statement justifies !
what about you ? is it personal matter ?
cheers.
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Tercar 66
Just to add what has been said by MS and 1Ball - if you go to streetdirectory.com and on to Indonesia > Jakarta > Shangrila you can then continue to places of interest nearby including other hotels which can then check out online.
If you have a particular desire to find girls in BATS, and you want to stay in a cheaper hotel there are plenty of options. I suggest you have a good read of the forum before rushing off to BATS though. Be careful you don't pay a lot more for the girl than you do for your hotel! Many girls in BATS will expect to be taken back to an expensive hotel - they usually ask - and of course they know the cost of everything. If you say you are staying in a cheap hotel (eg Ibis which are cheap but good) they will be more inclined to get into an up-front negotiation to ensure you are willing and able to pay. Of course some mongers like this approach. If they do and you don't want to negotiate up front, try and side-step the issue. If pressed and you are forced into negotiation with a girl you want, you could try "fixed price with a performance related bonus"! In BATS, with a good girl, the fixed element would need to be 500k I think. You would get a similar girl for 300 - 500k total in many other places. Good luck!