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Girls told me they paid exactly the same price as clients to get in (in some FKKs girls pay slightly more) and no more than 20 euros to sleep in the club (6 girls per room though, sleeping on the floor). I asked one girl about taxes and she didn't even seem to know girls like her could ever be required to pay taxes (do the NL authorities leave working girls' earnings untaxed? Two girls told me they didn't want to work in Germany because they would be required to speak German while they were not required to speak any Dutch in the NL. This seems to fit with the general attitude of the Dutch with respect to their national language, which they see as a local language to be replaced by English in their dealings with strangers. The requirement to speak German in German FKKs is much overblown judging by what little Deutsch many FKK girls can muster (let's hope it doesn't become more stringent with any new law, what with German being such a difficult language to get a working knowledge of).
I stayed at hotel Bilderberg Kasteel Vaalsbroek, 3 km from the FKK (indoor swimming pool, a bargain at 72 euros, breakfast included) but I see Hotel Kasteel Bloemendal is even closer (2 km). They both get a 8+ rating in [URL]booking.com[/URL] and might provide a further incentive to include Sixsens in any NRW FKK tour. They might be booked up in the sunny season though owing to their idyllic setting and wellness status.
[QUOTE=XXL;1817636]One reservation I have about Sixsens is about prices. When I told the receptionist I was familiar with German FKKs she hastened to say "here it's not at all like German FKKs, you have to negotiate with girls beforehand, they set their own prices". [/QUOTE]I read the same in another forum. It does say the website used to have the price listed at 50, and I guess like GT, 25 afterwards in the past. Some punter and others paid 60 for a half hour. Hmmm. What I'm reading is that the ladies ask for 100 per hour, but it was 75? I haven't found clear info on the pricing. Extras seem to be 25 and 50, but it's been stated about girls going for 50 for CIM from what I read.
I don't like the negotiate thing either(if this is something new). Could this possibly have something to do with the law in NL? In Germany, the club has no problem telling you how much the standard pricing is (they will explain at the reception if you are newbie), and girls abide by the extra pricing of the region.
I have stated, I have not experienced payment talk before or after handed her what was due, which I thought was 50 per half. If there is no set pricing by the club like Samya, I guess we can forget about the 75 per hour. Even with the extras, although I read it should be like typical NRW pricing, but with the pricing situation at the club, I wonder what is the situation with the extras at SS.
This new policy(give it's something new) seems like something that can create conflicts if the girl and the client are not on the same page as far as pricing. I assume the girls are going by standard pricing as in DE as I have not run into issue when paying.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1818094]I think I couldn't resist to 10 girls sharking for 1 man and will run away. [/QUOTE]I'm having a hard time swallowing this. I personally have not experienced any upsell or sharking to be honest. What kind of sharking have you experienced? What did the girls tell you exactly? Have you taken any girls? Of course, this place would be different from Aca. Aca no approach policy is pretty extreme, and with the pricing (rates of the room and extras), don't even know if upsell or sharking is even possible.
I have never been to this club but I heard some complaints in the dinning area at LR. This was about a month ago.
I missed the 2 pm deadline by 10 minutes so I had to pay the full price.
The place was pretty dead, no more than 15 and 20 girls and an excess of men. One or two girls who took my fancy but they got quickly engaged in being girlfriendly to some client. Do girls at least get paid for sitting next to a man listening to his BS for ages? I missed Acapulco's setup where girls sit or stand in isolation, in available mode, waiting to be led to the room.
My first girl was the deadest fish I've had in any FKK. Carina was her nickname. She barely understood any English and I speak no Rumanian. I had to sketch a "69" with my index finger onto the palm of my hand for her to understand the position I wanted her to get into, but even then she refused saying "no good". I stayed calm and decided to forgo the 69. Only in doggy she didn't curve and acted like I was hurting her (I wasn't). It's not like she'the taken a dislike to me, quite the reverse, she was smiling all along, albeit sadly, and seemed to be in want of friendship or comfort. I was not into that. I didn't see how she could last long in an FKK providing zero service. Whoever put her to work here should at least have taught her the basics. Social justice warriors could have a field day with a girl like her to prove working girls are enslaved la-di-da.
I harpooned Lola (Cuba) as soon as she appeared. She had a problem with my holding her waist just at the spot where her body is thinnest. I deduced her lipo or butt-job was still fresh and the place was still sore.
Carmen is a tallish, small-titted Portuguese who has the general looks of a Brazilian from Minas Gerais (no silicon, only fake hair extensions). I didn't session her this time.
On the whole, not a memorable experience but I put it down to being the worst time of the year. My next day in Babylon would bring confirmation of this.
I find it increasingly difficult to write posting in this forum. The system keeps replacing punctuations and characters at random, introducing all sorts of typos I didn't make.
[QUOTE=XXL;1819198]. One or two girls who took my fancy but they got quickly engaged in being girlfriendly to some client. Do girls at least get paid for sitting next to a man listening to his BS for ages? I missed Acapulco's setup where girls sit or stand in isolation, in available mode, waiting to be led to the room.[/QUOTE]This is one of the problems with Sixsens. Most guys there are regulars and girls will spend extended periods sitting and chatting with guys they know during the afternoon. The good part is once you get a few girls of your own you will have girls hang with you all afternoon if you so desire. Not dissimilar to how PHG used to be. No, they are not paid for this time.
I know I will get slammed for this since it is not the gentleman thing to do but, if you see a girl just sitting around not making money, get her attention. If she sees you want to session with her and she doesn't move, she wasn't the girl for you anyways. I find many times the girl is appreciative you sought her out and gave her an excuse to leave the time wasting guy.
Yup, the guys sitting around spending so much time with the girl more likely already know the girl(or in special case different, like me and my gem Ruby :)). Others may refer to this as rapport. In the P6 world, rapport more or less means a punter that the girl "knows," meaning has been with her, spent money on her. Some spend more on the girls than others, and it's natural for a paid worker to warm up to a more valued customer. For example, lets say as a first timer you meet a girl, and spend so much on her throughout the visit, she will likely hang around you since she sees potential in earnings.
We hear about punters spend upwards to hours in room with a girl. In a more professional setting (ie. Big clubs) more you spend with a girl translates to higher rapport, and therefore the girl will likely spend free time on those folks as they see potential of high euro earnings, otherwise it's a waste of time.
This can depend on the environment too. Some clubs are what we call "service clubs," and it's just part of the program for girls to spend some social time, or prezimmer foreplay before room. Others could be a club that mainly locals attending, and perhaps mainly guys that come to spend time looking to hangout than room, and girls recognize that once they are seen so many times. On a visit to LR, a girl told me the men do not do rooms (or perhaps she means not with her), so she doesn't see potential for earning with those guys. So, she will invest time a club newbie since it's more likely that she can get him to room with her. Some clubs with mostly locals attendings, girls know the regulars already, and know which will likely room more(or spend more). Also, they spot a newbie (perhaps tourist), and see more potential in earning.
Some environments are just busy for the girls, and girls are in demand, and punters are there to take them as soon as they are available (ie. GT), so you see many punters standing around in the reception looking to grab the girls. So, environment counts.
In general, once they see you enough (know your behavior, spending habits), it will relay into how they will interact with you in the club (as long as you are not repulsive). Quite possible people can confuse this with chemistry/connection, or whatever. In P6, more experienced girls know better at doing this and to whom.
Now, my visit to Sixsens which wasn't during the holidays (in Nov.), and was on a Sat. I came in for the afternoon happy hours for the discount entry. To me, the ratio was noticeably favorable compared to what I'm used to. Girls were available, and I didn't notice them being tied up with punters that I wanted to take. There are girls that will come up and ask, you want to spend some time? Anywhere, that means, we spend some time and go to the room. I decline if I'm not interested in the girl. In the Kino there are girls that will try to pull you, and in the couch lounge on the middle floor girl hang inside there. Didn't notice punters spending so much time really. Then again, I'm only interested in my targets, so I will focus on them. My Sat visit, the ratio was very favorable so I really didn't have to wait, and I got introduced to enough girls as it seems an approach club. At any club, when it gets busy, the girl will not spend so much time with punters. Also, given it's holidays, the LU is down, and perhaps more punters have visited creating an unfavorable ratio. My Sat experience was different. Perhaps I've gotten lucky with a favorable day.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1819368]Not dissimilar to how PHG used to be. [/QUOTE]I visited Sixsens this year in Nov. I first visited PHG in 2012 Nov. Coincidence? Haha. Both visits I went with lots of girls. PHG I went with 5 I recall, and at Sixsens, I went with 4 girls, but I left during the evening so I could have gone with more girls if I stayed longer. At PHG, I stayed all day and night. My visits to PHG edges out alot more. I had some outstanding sessions on visits.
The ambiance I find similarities, but the layout of course is different as they are different clubs, but environment with the girls seemed similar (my PHG visits edges it still). I will see how things pans out with subsequent visits.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1803786]Took a gamble, and paid off. Had a good visit compared to my last and only one. Food, is top notch. Steak was tasty. Breakfast is served extended now.
Like the ambiance. Smaller scaled crowd, but good sized clean modern facilities. No feeling of crampness as crowd isn't so big for the size. High ratio of girls to men. Mainly middle aged crowd. Quiet enough to have good chats with the ladies. Good setup to find an area to warm up to the ladies. Couches, etc.. Approach club. Girls not aggressive or pushy. Feels almost like my first visit to PHG with how the girls are.
What still sucks about this place is the location. Aca is 94 min away, GT 1 HR, YY 45. Friday and Sat are the best days to visit. Kept spotting girls that peaked my interest until 8 pm. So sticking around til then give a comprehensive view of the LU. Pretty much all Ro and Bul with some Latinas. Don't expect stunners, expect GND. Good amount of fatties, but number of slim ones are likeable. Young girls. Low 20s.[/QUOTE]Responding to your original report in the "Other Clubs" thread back in Nov timeframe. That report actually encouraged me to give SixSens a second shot. I went on the last Saturday of Nov. I arrived for happy hour and stayed until 830 pm and left disappointed with LU. But I was horny so I sessioned three girls--one of which was Ruby. We have different not often overlapping tastes, but just to make sure we are using a common vocabulary. I only use the adjective "stunner" if the girl is "7. 5" or higher on the optik scale. GND is for girls in "6" or "6. 5" range. So I definitely agree with your assessment--there were only GND girls at SixSens.
At most clubs I can find at least one girl who is "7". At Sharks maybe between 4-8 girls who are "7" or higher, depending on the day.
The difference in assessing a lineup could have a lot to do with whether you're a face guy or a body guy. I think PL (and myself) are more a face guy and McA is definitely a body guy.
Anybody can give a number, but I don't know exactly how people scale girls. I take girls who I find to be attractive at the clubs, that's all. We all got our personal taste for who we think are pretty or even consider stunners, and we can't agree on all girls. I call the girls at SixSens GND, and that is more of a qualitative assessment than a number. GND is just a type of looks, a description than a placeholder on a spectrum or scale(1-10 or whatever). Also, it's difficult for me to give a quantity on girl's looks beyond she's fugly (or pretty, very pretty, stunning, hot, ect.). It's difficult for me to give an objective number on appearance. It's because my number may not match somebody else's as the criteria seems to be qualitative. Not straight forward as measuring the height of the girl.
GND is a way I describe it, but doesn't mean that's how other will see them. People will have to check the place out and see what types of girls work at the club. There are Latinas there in addition as I've mentioned.
BB and I have a history of agreeing on clubs, which in the past was PHG, and currently SixSens which happens to have similar ambiance and perhaps approaches of girls which we agree on. I think this club, BB and I overlap interms of girl types too. I sometimes go for GND types (not too petite types) at times, with face being important. I have other taste too like semi-Pornstars (penthouse model types. Haha.).
So, SixSens is for GND, but that's not the only club I attend as I have different type of tastes. I tend to target GND and tall semi-pornstar types, most preferably Victoria's Secret Model types (not possible!) Haha.
So McA, the types of girls at SixSens probably has not fit what you look for.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1822114]Anybody can give a number, but I don't know exactly how people scale girls. I take girls who I find to be attractive at the clubs, that's all. We all got our personal taste for who we think are pretty or even consider stunners, and we can't agree on all girls. I call the girls at SixSens GND, and that is more of a qualitative assessment than a number. GND is just a type of looks, a description than a placeholder on a spectrum or scale(1-10 or whatever). Also, it's difficult for me to give a quantity on girl's looks beyond she's fugly (or pretty, very pretty, stunning, hot, ect.). It's difficult for me to give an objective number on appearance. It's because my number may not match somebody else's as the criteria seems to be qualitative. Not straight forward as measuring the height of the girl.
[/QUOTE]My use of a 1-10 scale system for optiks is used to express how hot the girls are---relative to the hottest girls I've encountered in my six year FKK career. It's a bit like grading on a curve. To me a "9" is exceedingly rare, I've found maybe three of them, and then maybe 30-50 girls who are "8" or "8. 5" range. Needless to say these are the girls I session no-questions asked, the first time I see them, simply because they make my jaw drop. "7"s are still girls that I find extremely attractive, a top one-percenter, but I give them that score because they are tiers lower than my most memorable girls. Like I said, I can find 1-5 of these girls at most clubs--although they may not always be in attendance on same day.
I've pointed out many times that my taste is extremely different. If someone else would adopt my system, they'd simply use Stella (Palace) and Marie (Oase) as their measuring stick. I wouldn't because they are not my idea of a "9". I never sessioned either of them despite having 20+ opportunities. Stella even knows me by face and never approaches me. Girls in the "6" or "6. 5" are the ones I usually only session, if there are no other options. But if Stella had been working at SixSens that night, I probably would have taken her.
Despite our different tastes, we both seemed to consider that there were no stunners at SixSens. It seems PL, BB, and I share the same positive view of the quality of ACA's LU, even if there is not much overlap in the girls we find attractive.
I saw on ijsberen that Hungarian Linet is ex-Aca, Mondia, Samya. Can this be the ex-Aca Lynette? According to a poster it seems so, but reported to be 20. Does this mean Lynette was 18 when she started at Aca? That is if it's the same girl. Or is every girl claiming to be really young there? LOL. Although there are good number of girls on the very young side, and looks to be so. Around 20.
If that is truely her, very nice girl with great GFE services. Hopefully, she looks as good as she did at Aca. Not to be missed if it's the ex-Aca Lynette.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1829110]I saw on ijsberen that Hungarian Linet is ex-Aca, Mondia, Samya. Can this be the ex-Aca Lynette? According to a poster it seems so, but reported to be 20. Does this mean Lynette was 18 when she started at Aca? That is if it's the same girl. Or is every girl claiming to be really young there? LOL. Although there are good number of girls on the very young side, and looks to be so. Around 20.
If that is truely her, very nice girl with great GFE services. Hopefully, she looks as good as she did at Aca. Not to be missed if it's the ex-Aca Lynette.[/QUOTE]I believe it's the same girl & she's been 20 for about 5 yrs!